The Russell Brunson Show https://marketingsecrets.com/ en 134043 Welcome to The Russell Brunson Show, a podcast that breaks free from the marketing "box" to explore the ideas, strategies, and stories shaping success in business and life. Building on the foundation of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, this new evolution dives into Russell’s passions and expertise beyond just marketing. In each episode, Russell shares insights on marketing, selling, personal development, and the lessons he’s learned from studying some of the most important figures in history. It’s a mix of practical strategies, timeless principles, and fascinating stories that will inspire and challenge you to think differently about business and life. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, creator, or someone striving to make an impact, The Russell Brunson Show is your go-to guide for thinking outside the box, achieving success, and leaving your mark on the world. Subscribe now to join Russell as he shares his playbook and his passion for growth. https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/eede8e0c-f048-11ee-bf7f-5fe8d12a8b74/image/7c3d06ab29be18694fabb789edfb1db3.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress The Russell Brunson Show https://marketingsecrets.com/ no episodic Unlocking the Secrets to Build, Grow, and Scale Your Online Business—From Funnels to Traffic to Unstoppable Sales! Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to The Russell Brunson Show, a podcast that breaks free from the marketing "box" to explore the ideas, strategies, and stories shaping success in business and life. Building on the foundation of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, this new evolution dives into Russell’s passions and expertise beyond just marketing. In each episode, Russell shares insights on marketing, selling, personal development, and the lessons he’s learned from studying some of the most important figures in history. It’s a mix of practical strategies, timeless principles, and fascinating stories that will inspire and challenge you to think differently about business and life. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, creator, or someone striving to make an impact, The Russell Brunson Show is your go-to guide for thinking outside the box, achieving success, and leaving your mark on the world. Subscribe now to join Russell as he shares his playbook and his passion for growth. Welcome to The Russell Brunson Show, a podcast that breaks free from the marketing "box" to explore the ideas, strategies, and stories shaping success in business and life. Building on the foundation of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, this new evolution dives into Russell’s passions and expertise beyond just marketing.

In each episode, Russell shares insights on marketing, selling, personal development, and the lessons he’s learned from studying some of the most important figures in history. It’s a mix of practical strategies, timeless principles, and fascinating stories that will inspire and challenge you to think differently about business and life.

Whether you’re an entrepreneur, creator, or someone striving to make an impact, The Russell Brunson Show is your go-to guide for thinking outside the box, achieving success, and leaving your mark on the world.

Subscribe now to join Russell as he shares his playbook and his passion for growth.

]]> Russell Brunson scott@primemover.com The Propaganda Playbook: Holy War (How the Pentagon Is Selling a Crusade to American Troops) - #Marketing - Ep. 123 There’s a moment when a message stops being information… and starts becoming identity. And when that shift happens, logic doesn’t just lose - it becomes irrelevant. That’s the thread I couldn’t stop pulling on this week. Because what’s unfolding right now isn’t just about war, politics, or headlines… it’s about one of the oldest persuasion frameworks ever created quietly running in real time. And once you see it, you can’t unsee it. In this episode, I break down what I call the “Moral Crusade” technique - how leaders take a cause and elevate it into something sacred. Drawing from Gustave Le Bon’s crowd psychology and the origins of modern propaganda, I show you how identity gets fused with belief… and why that fusion is so powerful it can move people beyond reason. Then I bring it back to what we do as entrepreneurs - because the same psychological drivers behind movements, religions, and even wars… are the exact same ones behind the most successful brands and communities in the world. Key Highlights: ◼️The “Sacred Propaganda” framework and why turning a cause into a belief system changes everything ◼️Gustave Le Bon’s 130-year-old discovery about crowds (and why it still runs the world today) ◼️How identity fusion makes people defend ideas like they’re defending themselves ◼️The real reason movements outperform products (and why logic alone never wins) ◼️The 5-part “Identity Stack” I’ve used to build tribes, not just customers At the end of the day, this episode isn’t about agreeing or disagreeing with what’s happening in the world - it’s about recognizing the pattern underneath it. Because once you understand how identity is shaped, you start to see the same mechanics everywhere… in media, in movements, and inside your own marketing. The real question is: are you consciously building something that empowers people… or accidentally creating something that controls them? ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 Apr 2026 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media There’s a moment when a message stops being information… and starts becoming identity. And when that shift happens, logic doesn’t just lose - it becomes irrelevant. That’s the thread I couldn’t stop pulling on this week. Because what’s unfolding right now isn’t just about war, politics, or headlines… it’s about one of the oldest persuasion frameworks ever created quietly running in real time. And once you see it, you can’t unsee it. In this episode, I break down what I call the “Moral Crusade” technique - how leaders take a cause and elevate it into something sacred. Drawing from Gustave Le Bon’s crowd psychology and the origins of modern propaganda, I show you how identity gets fused with belief… and why that fusion is so powerful it can move people beyond reason. Then I bring it back to what we do as entrepreneurs - because the same psychological drivers behind movements, religions, and even wars… are the exact same ones behind the most successful brands and communities in the world. Key Highlights: ◼️The “Sacred Propaganda” framework and why turning a cause into a belief system changes everything ◼️Gustave Le Bon’s 130-year-old discovery about crowds (and why it still runs the world today) ◼️How identity fusion makes people defend ideas like they’re defending themselves ◼️The real reason movements outperform products (and why logic alone never wins) ◼️The 5-part “Identity Stack” I’ve used to build tribes, not just customers At the end of the day, this episode isn’t about agreeing or disagreeing with what’s happening in the world - it’s about recognizing the pattern underneath it. Because once you understand how identity is shaped, you start to see the same mechanics everywhere… in media, in movements, and inside your own marketing. The real question is: are you consciously building something that empowers people… or accidentally creating something that controls them? ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices There’s a moment when a message stops being information… and starts becoming identity. And when that shift happens, logic doesn’t just lose - it becomes irrelevant. That’s the thread I couldn’t stop pulling on this week. Because what’s unfolding right now isn’t just about war, politics, or headlines… it’s about one of the oldest persuasion frameworks ever created quietly running in real time. And once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

In this episode, I break down what I call the “Moral Crusade” technique - how leaders take a cause and elevate it into something sacred. Drawing from Gustave Le Bon’s crowd psychology and the origins of modern propaganda, I show you how identity gets fused with belief… and why that fusion is so powerful it can move people beyond reason. Then I bring it back to what we do as entrepreneurs - because the same psychological drivers behind movements, religions, and even wars… are the exact same ones behind the most successful brands and communities in the world.


Key Highlights:

◼️The “Sacred Propaganda” framework and why turning a cause into a belief system changes everything

◼️Gustave Le Bon’s 130-year-old discovery about crowds (and why it still runs the world today)

◼️How identity fusion makes people defend ideas like they’re defending themselves

◼️The real reason movements outperform products (and why logic alone never wins)

◼️The 5-part “Identity Stack” I’ve used to build tribes, not just customers


At the end of the day, this episode isn’t about agreeing or disagreeing with what’s happening in the world - it’s about recognizing the pattern underneath it. Because once you understand how identity is shaped, you start to see the same mechanics everywhere… in media, in movements, and inside your own marketing. The real question is: are you consciously building something that empowers people… or accidentally creating something that controls them?

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 1023 The Propaganda Playbook: Epstein Files (Why You Know LESS After History's Biggest Document Dump) | #Marketing - Ep. 122 Three million pages drop overnight… and somehow, everyone walks away knowing less than they did before. That’s the paradox I couldn’t stop thinking about. Everyone’s arguing over names, sides, and headlines - but they’re missing the real story happening right in front of them. Because when you zoom out, what you’re actually watching isn’t transparency… it’s a masterclass in how information is controlled. And once you see the pattern, you realize this isn’t new - it’s been happening for over a hundred years. In this episode, I break down one of the most powerful persuasion techniques ever created: narrative control. Drawing from the work of Edward Bernays (the father of public relations), I walk you through how the sequence of information - not just the information itself - shapes what people believe. And then I connect it to something way closer to home: your marketing. Because the same exact framework being used to manage global narratives is the one I’ve used to build funnels, create movements, and scale companies to massive levels. Key Highlights: ◼️The 5-step “Narrative Control Sequence” (promise, delay, controlled release, flood, and algorithmic gate) ◼️Why overwhelming people with information can be more effective than hiding it ◼️The real meaning behind “whoever controls the sequence controls the belief” ◼️A wild historical breakdown of how Bernays made the color green fashionable to sell cigarettes ◼️How to ethically apply the same principles inside your funnels, ads, and customer journeys At the end of the day, this episode isn’t about politics or conspiracy theories - it’s about awareness and responsibility. Once you understand how narratives are built, you start to see them everywhere… in the news, in social media, and inside your own business. The real question is: are you intentionally building the world your customers step into… or are you accidentally letting someone else build it for you? ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Apr 2026 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Three million pages drop overnight… and somehow, everyone walks away knowing less than they did before. That’s the paradox I couldn’t stop thinking about. Everyone’s arguing over names, sides, and headlines - but they’re missing the real story happening right in front of them. Because when you zoom out, what you’re actually watching isn’t transparency… it’s a masterclass in how information is controlled. And once you see the pattern, you realize this isn’t new - it’s been happening for over a hundred years. In this episode, I break down one of the most powerful persuasion techniques ever created: narrative control. Drawing from the work of Edward Bernays (the father of public relations), I walk you through how the sequence of information - not just the information itself - shapes what people believe. And then I connect it to something way closer to home: your marketing. Because the same exact framework being used to manage global narratives is the one I’ve used to build funnels, create movements, and scale companies to massive levels. Key Highlights: ◼️The 5-step “Narrative Control Sequence” (promise, delay, controlled release, flood, and algorithmic gate) ◼️Why overwhelming people with information can be more effective than hiding it ◼️The real meaning behind “whoever controls the sequence controls the belief” ◼️A wild historical breakdown of how Bernays made the color green fashionable to sell cigarettes ◼️How to ethically apply the same principles inside your funnels, ads, and customer journeys At the end of the day, this episode isn’t about politics or conspiracy theories - it’s about awareness and responsibility. Once you understand how narratives are built, you start to see them everywhere… in the news, in social media, and inside your own business. The real question is: are you intentionally building the world your customers step into… or are you accidentally letting someone else build it for you? ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Three million pages drop overnight… and somehow, everyone walks away knowing less than they did before. That’s the paradox I couldn’t stop thinking about. Everyone’s arguing over names, sides, and headlines - but they’re missing the real story happening right in front of them. Because when you zoom out, what you’re actually watching isn’t transparency… it’s a masterclass in how information is controlled. And once you see the pattern, you realize this isn’t new - it’s been happening for over a hundred years.

In this episode, I break down one of the most powerful persuasion techniques ever created: narrative control. Drawing from the work of Edward Bernays (the father of public relations), I walk you through how the sequence of information - not just the information itself - shapes what people believe. And then I connect it to something way closer to home: your marketing. Because the same exact framework being used to manage global narratives is the one I’ve used to build funnels, create movements, and scale companies to massive levels.


Key Highlights:

◼️The 5-step “Narrative Control Sequence” (promise, delay, controlled release, flood, and algorithmic gate)

◼️Why overwhelming people with information can be more effective than hiding it

◼️The real meaning behind “whoever controls the sequence controls the belief”

◼️A wild historical breakdown of how Bernays made the color green fashionable to sell cigarettes

◼️How to ethically apply the same principles inside your funnels, ads, and customer journeys


At the end of the day, this episode isn’t about politics or conspiracy theories - it’s about awareness and responsibility. Once you understand how narratives are built, you start to see them everywhere… in the news, in social media, and inside your own business. The real question is: are you intentionally building the world your customers step into… or are you accidentally letting someone else build it for you?

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 1022 I Walked Away From My Biggest Event... Then Everything Changed | #Marketing - Ep. 121 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing something I never thought I’d say again… Funnel Hacking Live is coming back. But to really understand why, you have to go back to why we ended it in the first place. For over a decade, FHL wasn’t just an event - it was the heartbeat of an entire movement. And we chose to walk away from it at its peak. Not because it wasn’t working, but because the world had changed. AI is compressing decades into days, and I knew the old playbook wouldn’t build the future. So I stepped back, created space, and started rebuilding everything from the ground up. What I didn’t expect was what happened next. The community didn’t move on. People kept asking for it, talking about it, missing the connection, the energy, and the transformation. At the same time, I was deep in the trenches discovering something new - how funnel hacking combined with AI is changing everything. Faster launches, higher conversions, smaller teams, bigger impact. And that’s when it clicked… we had to come back. Not as a reunion. Not as nostalgia. But as something completely different - an encore event built for the next generation of entrepreneurs. Key Highlights: ◼️Why we ended Funnel Hacking Live at its peak - and what had to change before it could come back ◼️The official announcement of the Funnel Hacking Live Encore event (and why it’s a one-time experience) ◼️How AI is compressing decades of business growth into days - and why most people are still using it wrong ◼️The breakthrough moment where AI + funnel hacking became the ultimate unfair advantage ◼️Behind-the-scenes examples of campaigns built in hours instead of months - and why they outperform everything At the end of the day, this episode isn’t just about bringing back an event - it’s about stepping into a new era. There are moments in your life where everything shifts… before and after. I believe this is one of those moments for entrepreneurs. The return of Funnel Hacking Live isn’t about going backward - it’s about preparing you for what’s coming next. The only question is: will you be in the room when it happens? ◼️https://www.funnelhackinglive.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Mar 2026 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing something I never thought I’d say again… Funnel Hacking Live is coming back. But to really understand why, you have to go back to why we ended it in the first place. For over a decade, FHL wasn’t just an event - it was the heartbeat of an entire movement. And we chose to walk away from it at its peak. Not because it wasn’t working, but because the world had changed. AI is compressing decades into days, and I knew the old playbook wouldn’t build the future. So I stepped back, created space, and started rebuilding everything from the ground up. What I didn’t expect was what happened next. The community didn’t move on. People kept asking for it, talking about it, missing the connection, the energy, and the transformation. At the same time, I was deep in the trenches discovering something new - how funnel hacking combined with AI is changing everything. Faster launches, higher conversions, smaller teams, bigger impact. And that’s when it clicked… we had to come back. Not as a reunion. Not as nostalgia. But as something completely different - an encore event built for the next generation of entrepreneurs. Key Highlights: ◼️Why we ended Funnel Hacking Live at its peak - and what had to change before it could come back ◼️The official announcement of the Funnel Hacking Live Encore event (and why it’s a one-time experience) ◼️How AI is compressing decades of business growth into days - and why most people are still using it wrong ◼️The breakthrough moment where AI + funnel hacking became the ultimate unfair advantage ◼️Behind-the-scenes examples of campaigns built in hours instead of months - and why they outperform everything At the end of the day, this episode isn’t just about bringing back an event - it’s about stepping into a new era. There are moments in your life where everything shifts… before and after. I believe this is one of those moments for entrepreneurs. The return of Funnel Hacking Live isn’t about going backward - it’s about preparing you for what’s coming next. The only question is: will you be in the room when it happens? ◼️https://www.funnelhackinglive.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing something I never thought I’d say again… Funnel Hacking Live is coming back. But to really understand why, you have to go back to why we ended it in the first place. For over a decade, FHL wasn’t just an event - it was the heartbeat of an entire movement. And we chose to walk away from it at its peak. Not because it wasn’t working, but because the world had changed. AI is compressing decades into days, and I knew the old playbook wouldn’t build the future. So I stepped back, created space, and started rebuilding everything from the ground up.

What I didn’t expect was what happened next. The community didn’t move on. People kept asking for it, talking about it, missing the connection, the energy, and the transformation. At the same time, I was deep in the trenches discovering something new - how funnel hacking combined with AI is changing everything. Faster launches, higher conversions, smaller teams, bigger impact. And that’s when it clicked… we had to come back. Not as a reunion. Not as nostalgia. But as something completely different - an encore event built for the next generation of entrepreneurs.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why we ended Funnel Hacking Live at its peak - and what had to change before it could come back

◼️The official announcement of the Funnel Hacking Live Encore event (and why it’s a one-time experience)

◼️How AI is compressing decades of business growth into days - and why most people are still using it wrong

◼️The breakthrough moment where AI + funnel hacking became the ultimate unfair advantage

◼️Behind-the-scenes examples of campaigns built in hours instead of months - and why they outperform everything


At the end of the day, this episode isn’t just about bringing back an event - it’s about stepping into a new era. There are moments in your life where everything shifts… before and after. I believe this is one of those moments for entrepreneurs. The return of Funnel Hacking Live isn’t about going backward - it’s about preparing you for what’s coming next. The only question is: will you be in the room when it happens?

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◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 4200 The Propaganda Playbook: Iran (How Consent Is Manufactured Before the First Bomb Drops) | #Marketing - Ep. 120 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m breaking down something that most people completely miss when they look at big global events. Everyone is arguing about whether a war is right or wrong - but that’s not actually the most important question. The real question is: how did millions of people already agree with it before it even started? I take you behind the scenes of a real-world example and show you exactly how consent is engineered long before any decision is announced. And once you see it, you won’t be able to unsee it. What might surprise you is that the same psychology used to guide public opinion at a massive scale is the exact same psychology behind every great sales funnel, webinar, and presentation. I’ve spent over 20 years studying persuasion - from Edward Bernays to modern-day marketing - and in this episode, I connect the dots between propaganda, influence, and ethical selling. I even break down how I used this exact framework on stage in front of thousands of people to generate millions in sales in just 90 minutes. Key Highlights: ◼️The concept of “manufacturing consent” and how it’s been used for over 100 years to shape public opinion ◼️The 5-step “Consent Ladder” (moral foundation, promise, escalation, emotional lock, and the final move) ◼️Why people rarely make decisions in the moment - and how those decisions are actually pre-engineered ◼️A behind-the-scenes breakdown of how I used the same psychological framework to generate $3M in 90 minutes ◼️The critical difference between manipulation and ethical persuasion - and why intent matters more than technique At the end of the day, this episode isn’t about politics - it’s about awareness. Once you understand how influence really works, you’ll start to see it everywhere… in the news, in marketing, and even in your own decisions. The big question is: does simply knowing the process protect you from it - or are we all still climbing the ladder without realizing it? If you’re an entrepreneur, marketer, or anyone who wants to truly understand human behavior and persuasion, this episode will completely change how you see the world - and how you sell inside of it. ◼️Watch the Secrets of Propaganda: https://www.secretsofpropaganda.com/yt ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Mar 2026 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m breaking down something that most people completely miss when they look at big global events. Everyone is arguing about whether a war is right or wrong - but that’s not actually the most important question. The real question is: how did millions of people already agree with it before it even started? I take you behind the scenes of a real-world example and show you exactly how consent is engineered long before any decision is announced. And once you see it, you won’t be able to unsee it. What might surprise you is that the same psychology used to guide public opinion at a massive scale is the exact same psychology behind every great sales funnel, webinar, and presentation. I’ve spent over 20 years studying persuasion - from Edward Bernays to modern-day marketing - and in this episode, I connect the dots between propaganda, influence, and ethical selling. I even break down how I used this exact framework on stage in front of thousands of people to generate millions in sales in just 90 minutes. Key Highlights: ◼️The concept of “manufacturing consent” and how it’s been used for over 100 years to shape public opinion ◼️The 5-step “Consent Ladder” (moral foundation, promise, escalation, emotional lock, and the final move) ◼️Why people rarely make decisions in the moment - and how those decisions are actually pre-engineered ◼️A behind-the-scenes breakdown of how I used the same psychological framework to generate $3M in 90 minutes ◼️The critical difference between manipulation and ethical persuasion - and why intent matters more than technique At the end of the day, this episode isn’t about politics - it’s about awareness. Once you understand how influence really works, you’ll start to see it everywhere… in the news, in marketing, and even in your own decisions. The big question is: does simply knowing the process protect you from it - or are we all still climbing the ladder without realizing it? If you’re an entrepreneur, marketer, or anyone who wants to truly understand human behavior and persuasion, this episode will completely change how you see the world - and how you sell inside of it. ◼️Watch the Secrets of Propaganda: https://www.secretsofpropaganda.com/yt ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m breaking down something that most people completely miss when they look at big global events. Everyone is arguing about whether a war is right or wrong - but that’s not actually the most important question. The real question is: how did millions of people already agree with it before it even started? I take you behind the scenes of a real-world example and show you exactly how consent is engineered long before any decision is announced. And once you see it, you won’t be able to unsee it.

What might surprise you is that the same psychology used to guide public opinion at a massive scale is the exact same psychology behind every great sales funnel, webinar, and presentation. I’ve spent over 20 years studying persuasion - from Edward Bernays to modern-day marketing - and in this episode, I connect the dots between propaganda, influence, and ethical selling. I even break down how I used this exact framework on stage in front of thousands of people to generate millions in sales in just 90 minutes.


Key Highlights:

◼️The concept of “manufacturing consent” and how it’s been used for over 100 years to shape public opinion

◼️The 5-step “Consent Ladder” (moral foundation, promise, escalation, emotional lock, and the final move)

◼️Why people rarely make decisions in the moment - and how those decisions are actually pre-engineered

◼️A behind-the-scenes breakdown of how I used the same psychological framework to generate $3M in 90 minutes

◼️The critical difference between manipulation and ethical persuasion - and why intent matters more than technique


At the end of the day, this episode isn’t about politics - it’s about awareness. Once you understand how influence really works, you’ll start to see it everywhere… in the news, in marketing, and even in your own decisions. The big question is: does simply knowing the process protect you from it - or are we all still climbing the ladder without realizing it? If you’re an entrepreneur, marketer, or anyone who wants to truly understand human behavior and persuasion, this episode will completely change how you see the world - and how you sell inside of it. ◼️Watch the Secrets of Propaganda: https://www.secretsofpropaganda.com/yt


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 1170 Kaley Chu’s Bold Experiment That Took Her From Introvert to International Speaker | #Success - Ep. 119 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Kaley Chu, and we talked about one of the most powerful personal transformation stories I’ve heard in a long time. Kaley started out extremely introverted, struggling with confidence after immigrating from Hong Kong to Australia. For years she stayed in a small bubble, avoiding conversations and feeling like she didn’t belong - until one moment of embarrassment in a meeting pushed her to do something radical: schedule 100 lunches with 100 strangers. What started as a simple New Year’s resolution turned into a life-changing experiment. Those lunches didn’t just help her learn how to talk to people - they opened doors to mentors, business partners, and opportunities she never imagined. One connection led to writing a book, which led to her first speaking opportunity, which quickly turned into a full-time career traveling and inspiring audiences around the world. It’s a powerful reminder that sometimes the fastest way to change your life is to step outside your comfort zone and start connecting with people. Key Highlights: ◼️The “100 Lunches with Strangers” experiment that helped Kaley overcome extreme introversion and build life-changing relationships ◼️How one unexpected connection encouraged her to write a book - which eventually led to her first speaking opportunities ◼️The behind-the-scenes story of how she transitioned from a shy financial planner to a full-time keynote speaker ◼️The difference between keynote presentations, webinars, and TEDx talks - and why a TEDx talk focuses on a single “idea worth spreading” ◼️How Kaley and her team created the Next Top Speaker competition to give everyday people a platform to craft and share their stories We also talk about why speaking is one of the most valuable skills any entrepreneur can develop, how telling your story can unlock opportunities you never expected, and why the people who succeed are the ones who simply make commitments - and keep them. If you’ve ever wanted to share your message, step onto a stage, or just become more confident connecting with people, this episode will inspire you to start. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Mar 2026 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Kaley Chu, and we talked about one of the most powerful personal transformation stories I’ve heard in a long time. Kaley started out extremely introverted, struggling with confidence after immigrating from Hong Kong to Australia. For years she stayed in a small bubble, avoiding conversations and feeling like she didn’t belong - until one moment of embarrassment in a meeting pushed her to do something radical: schedule 100 lunches with 100 strangers. What started as a simple New Year’s resolution turned into a life-changing experiment. Those lunches didn’t just help her learn how to talk to people - they opened doors to mentors, business partners, and opportunities she never imagined. One connection led to writing a book, which led to her first speaking opportunity, which quickly turned into a full-time career traveling and inspiring audiences around the world. It’s a powerful reminder that sometimes the fastest way to change your life is to step outside your comfort zone and start connecting with people. Key Highlights: ◼️The “100 Lunches with Strangers” experiment that helped Kaley overcome extreme introversion and build life-changing relationships ◼️How one unexpected connection encouraged her to write a book - which eventually led to her first speaking opportunities ◼️The behind-the-scenes story of how she transitioned from a shy financial planner to a full-time keynote speaker ◼️The difference between keynote presentations, webinars, and TEDx talks - and why a TEDx talk focuses on a single “idea worth spreading” ◼️How Kaley and her team created the Next Top Speaker competition to give everyday people a platform to craft and share their stories We also talk about why speaking is one of the most valuable skills any entrepreneur can develop, how telling your story can unlock opportunities you never expected, and why the people who succeed are the ones who simply make commitments - and keep them. If you’ve ever wanted to share your message, step onto a stage, or just become more confident connecting with people, this episode will inspire you to start. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Kaley Chu, and we talked about one of the most powerful personal transformation stories I’ve heard in a long time. Kaley started out extremely introverted, struggling with confidence after immigrating from Hong Kong to Australia. For years she stayed in a small bubble, avoiding conversations and feeling like she didn’t belong - until one moment of embarrassment in a meeting pushed her to do something radical: schedule 100 lunches with 100 strangers.

What started as a simple New Year’s resolution turned into a life-changing experiment. Those lunches didn’t just help her learn how to talk to people - they opened doors to mentors, business partners, and opportunities she never imagined. One connection led to writing a book, which led to her first speaking opportunity, which quickly turned into a full-time career traveling and inspiring audiences around the world. It’s a powerful reminder that sometimes the fastest way to change your life is to step outside your comfort zone and start connecting with people.


Key Highlights:

◼️The “100 Lunches with Strangers” experiment that helped Kaley overcome extreme introversion and build life-changing relationships

◼️How one unexpected connection encouraged her to write a book - which eventually led to her first speaking opportunities

◼️The behind-the-scenes story of how she transitioned from a shy financial planner to a full-time keynote speaker

◼️The difference between keynote presentations, webinars, and TEDx talks - and why a TEDx talk focuses on a single “idea worth spreading”

◼️How Kaley and her team created the Next Top Speaker competition to give everyday people a platform to craft and share their stories

We also talk about why speaking is one of the most valuable skills any entrepreneur can develop, how telling your story can unlock opportunities you never expected, and why the people who succeed are the ones who simply make commitments - and keep them. If you’ve ever wanted to share your message, step onto a stage, or just become more confident connecting with people, this episode will inspire you to start.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 1894 Struggling to Focus While Writing? Adam Leeb’s "Freewrite" is the Solution | #Marketing - Ep. 118 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Adam Leeb, the founder of Freewrite, and we went deep into one of the most fascinating product journeys I’ve seen in a long time. If you’ve ever struggled with writing because your brain keeps switching between creating and editing, this conversation is going to hit home. Adam built a completely distraction-free writing device that looks like a modern typewriter - and the whole idea started from a simple conversation about separating the drafting process from editing. What blew my mind is that Adam didn’t set out to build a huge company. He just wanted to make something with his hands. But after a viral moment online and a simple landing page collecting emails, the idea exploded - eventually leading to a Kickstarter launch that took off almost instantly. From working on Wall Street to building hardware from scratch in Asia, Adam’s story is a masterclass in product design, patience, and creating something people genuinely want. Key Highlights: ◼️How a single conversation about “write first, edit later” sparked the idea for a completely new category of writing tools ◼️The viral press moment that sent 100,000+ people to a simple WordPress page and helped generate thousands of email leads before the product even existed ◼️Why dedicated tools can dramatically increase focus (and why laptops are secretly designed to distract you) ◼️The behind-the-scenes process of building a physical product from scratch - including prototypes, tooling, and manufacturing in Asia ◼️How Adam used Kickstarter to validate demand and turn a side project into a real company We also talk about the psychology behind creativity, why separating drafting from editing can dramatically increase your writing output, and how a product designed to do less can actually help you produce more. If you’re an entrepreneur, creator, author, or anyone who struggles to stay focused while writing, this episode will give you a completely different perspective on productivity - and maybe inspire you to rethink the tools you use to create. If you’re serious about writing more, staying focused, and finally finishing that draft you’ve been putting off, check out the distraction-free writing tools Adam built at https://getfreewrite.com/russell ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Mar 2026 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Adam Leeb, the founder of Freewrite, and we went deep into one of the most fascinating product journeys I’ve seen in a long time. If you’ve ever struggled with writing because your brain keeps switching between creating and editing, this conversation is going to hit home. Adam built a completely distraction-free writing device that looks like a modern typewriter - and the whole idea started from a simple conversation about separating the drafting process from editing. What blew my mind is that Adam didn’t set out to build a huge company. He just wanted to make something with his hands. But after a viral moment online and a simple landing page collecting emails, the idea exploded - eventually leading to a Kickstarter launch that took off almost instantly. From working on Wall Street to building hardware from scratch in Asia, Adam’s story is a masterclass in product design, patience, and creating something people genuinely want. Key Highlights: ◼️How a single conversation about “write first, edit later” sparked the idea for a completely new category of writing tools ◼️The viral press moment that sent 100,000+ people to a simple WordPress page and helped generate thousands of email leads before the product even existed ◼️Why dedicated tools can dramatically increase focus (and why laptops are secretly designed to distract you) ◼️The behind-the-scenes process of building a physical product from scratch - including prototypes, tooling, and manufacturing in Asia ◼️How Adam used Kickstarter to validate demand and turn a side project into a real company We also talk about the psychology behind creativity, why separating drafting from editing can dramatically increase your writing output, and how a product designed to do less can actually help you produce more. If you’re an entrepreneur, creator, author, or anyone who struggles to stay focused while writing, this episode will give you a completely different perspective on productivity - and maybe inspire you to rethink the tools you use to create. If you’re serious about writing more, staying focused, and finally finishing that draft you’ve been putting off, check out the distraction-free writing tools Adam built at https://getfreewrite.com/russell ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Adam Leeb, the founder of Freewrite, and we went deep into one of the most fascinating product journeys I’ve seen in a long time. If you’ve ever struggled with writing because your brain keeps switching between creating and editing, this conversation is going to hit home. Adam built a completely distraction-free writing device that looks like a modern typewriter - and the whole idea started from a simple conversation about separating the drafting process from editing.

What blew my mind is that Adam didn’t set out to build a huge company. He just wanted to make something with his hands. But after a viral moment online and a simple landing page collecting emails, the idea exploded - eventually leading to a Kickstarter launch that took off almost instantly. From working on Wall Street to building hardware from scratch in Asia, Adam’s story is a masterclass in product design, patience, and creating something people genuinely want.


Key Highlights:

◼️How a single conversation about “write first, edit later” sparked the idea for a completely new category of writing tools

◼️The viral press moment that sent 100,000+ people to a simple WordPress page and helped generate thousands of email leads before the product even existed

◼️Why dedicated tools can dramatically increase focus (and why laptops are secretly designed to distract you)

◼️The behind-the-scenes process of building a physical product from scratch - including prototypes, tooling, and manufacturing in Asia

◼️How Adam used Kickstarter to validate demand and turn a side project into a real company


We also talk about the psychology behind creativity, why separating drafting from editing can dramatically increase your writing output, and how a product designed to do less can actually help you produce more. If you’re an entrepreneur, creator, author, or anyone who struggles to stay focused while writing, this episode will give you a completely different perspective on productivity - and maybe inspire you to rethink the tools you use to create.

If you’re serious about writing more, staying focused, and finally finishing that draft you’ve been putting off, check out the distraction-free writing tools Adam built at https://getfreewrite.com/russell


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]]> 2202 Transmuting Desire Into Drive: Napoleon Hill’s Controversial Claim | #Success - Ep. 117 Most people skip over the chapter on sexual transmutation in Think and Grow Rich because it feels uncomfortable. I’ll be honest… for years, I did the same thing. But recently, I pulled something fascinating out of my vault - a 1937 issue of Practical Psychology magazine, published the same year Napoleon Hill released Think and Grow Rich. Inside was an article he wrote called “Sex Urge Stimulates Genius.” And it forced me to finally have the conversation most entrepreneurs avoid. Hill makes a bold claim: men seldom succeed before forty - and often not until fifty - because they dissipate their strongest driving force. After studying more than 25,000 people, he believed the highest achievers learned how to redirect their sexual energy instead of constantly releasing it. That idea might sound controversial in today’s world, but the principle underneath it is powerful: if you want extraordinary success, you have to stop chasing pleasure and start channeling energy toward purpose. In this episode, I open up about why this topic makes me uncomfortable… why I avoided teaching it during our Think and Grow Rich Challenge… and why I now believe it’s one of the most misunderstood keys to creativity, drive, and long-term achievement. Key Highlights: ◼️Why Napoleon Hill believed the majority of high achievers don’t “hit their stride” until after forty ◼️The difference between pleasure and fulfillment - and how chasing the wrong one kills momentum ◼️What “transmutation of sexual energy” actually means (without the weird mysticism) ◼️The modern trap of dopamine addiction - from pornography to social media - and how it quietly drains ambition ◼️Lessons from Tim Ferriss’s 30-day “No Beer, No Masturbating” challenge and what happened when people removed instant gratification from their lives At its core, this episode isn’t really about sex. It’s about discipline. It’s about learning to hold tension instead of constantly seeking release. Just like music builds anticipation before delivering the chorus, your life works the same way. When you stop giving away your strongest energy to quick rewards and instead aim it at your mission, your creativity expands, your focus sharpens, and your drive multiplies. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most people skip over the chapter on sexual transmutation in Think and Grow Rich because it feels uncomfortable. I’ll be honest… for years, I did the same thing. But recently, I pulled something fascinating out of my vault - a 1937 issue of Practical Psychology magazine, published the same year Napoleon Hill released Think and Grow Rich. Inside was an article he wrote called “Sex Urge Stimulates Genius.” And it forced me to finally have the conversation most entrepreneurs avoid. Hill makes a bold claim: men seldom succeed before forty - and often not until fifty - because they dissipate their strongest driving force. After studying more than 25,000 people, he believed the highest achievers learned how to redirect their sexual energy instead of constantly releasing it. That idea might sound controversial in today’s world, but the principle underneath it is powerful: if you want extraordinary success, you have to stop chasing pleasure and start channeling energy toward purpose. In this episode, I open up about why this topic makes me uncomfortable… why I avoided teaching it during our Think and Grow Rich Challenge… and why I now believe it’s one of the most misunderstood keys to creativity, drive, and long-term achievement. Key Highlights: ◼️Why Napoleon Hill believed the majority of high achievers don’t “hit their stride” until after forty ◼️The difference between pleasure and fulfillment - and how chasing the wrong one kills momentum ◼️What “transmutation of sexual energy” actually means (without the weird mysticism) ◼️The modern trap of dopamine addiction - from pornography to social media - and how it quietly drains ambition ◼️Lessons from Tim Ferriss’s 30-day “No Beer, No Masturbating” challenge and what happened when people removed instant gratification from their lives At its core, this episode isn’t really about sex. It’s about discipline. It’s about learning to hold tension instead of constantly seeking release. Just like music builds anticipation before delivering the chorus, your life works the same way. When you stop giving away your strongest energy to quick rewards and instead aim it at your mission, your creativity expands, your focus sharpens, and your drive multiplies. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most people skip over the chapter on sexual transmutation in Think and Grow Rich because it feels uncomfortable. I’ll be honest… for years, I did the same thing. But recently, I pulled something fascinating out of my vault - a 1937 issue of Practical Psychology magazine, published the same year Napoleon Hill released Think and Grow Rich. Inside was an article he wrote called “Sex Urge Stimulates Genius.” And it forced me to finally have the conversation most entrepreneurs avoid.

Hill makes a bold claim: men seldom succeed before forty - and often not until fifty - because they dissipate their strongest driving force. After studying more than 25,000 people, he believed the highest achievers learned how to redirect their sexual energy instead of constantly releasing it.

That idea might sound controversial in today’s world, but the principle underneath it is powerful: if you want extraordinary success, you have to stop chasing pleasure and start channeling energy toward purpose.

In this episode, I open up about why this topic makes me uncomfortable… why I avoided teaching it during our Think and Grow Rich Challenge… and why I now believe it’s one of the most misunderstood keys to creativity, drive, and long-term achievement.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why Napoleon Hill believed the majority of high achievers don’t “hit their stride” until after forty

◼️The difference between pleasure and fulfillment - and how chasing the wrong one kills momentum

◼️What “transmutation of sexual energy” actually means (without the weird mysticism)

◼️The modern trap of dopamine addiction - from pornography to social media - and how it quietly drains ambition

◼️Lessons from Tim Ferriss’s 30-day “No Beer, No Masturbating” challenge and what happened when people removed instant gratification from their lives


At its core, this episode isn’t really about sex. It’s about discipline. It’s about learning to hold tension instead of constantly seeking release. Just like music builds anticipation before delivering the chorus, your life works the same way. When you stop giving away your strongest energy to quick rewards and instead aim it at your mission, your creativity expands, your focus sharpens, and your drive multiplies.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 857 How I’m Using AI to Outwrite, Outbuild, and Outlaunch My Competition | #Success - Ep. 116 Most entrepreneurs are dabbling with AI right now… testing prompts, playing with tools, maybe even writing a few emails with it. But what I’ve realized over the last year is this: AI isn’t just a productivity hack. It’s a force multiplier. And if you learn how to feed it the right context and guide it the right way, it can become the most powerful copywriter, funnel builder, and marketing assistant you’ve ever had. In this episode, I’m recording from my sauna (yes, really) and pulling back the curtain on how I’ve been using AI behind the scenes to write long-form VSLs, build entire challenge funnels, craft 100+ email sequences in hours, and even script full webinars in a single afternoon. I share the exact shift that changed everything for me - from asking AI to “write me a VSL” (and getting garbage) to building a process that produces scripts as good as, or better than, what I could write myself. The result? Some of the highest-converting funnels of my entire career. If you’ve been wondering whether AI is just hype - or the biggest opportunity of our lifetime - this episode will open your eyes to what’s actually possible right now. Key Highlights: ◼️The "500 words of context for every 1 word of output" rule that transformed the quality of my AI-written VSLs ◼️How I wrote three 50-page VSLs in a single day, and why they’re performing at the highest level of my career ◼️The funnel-hacking + AI framework I used to reverse-engineer multiple 8-figure challenges and rebuild them in hours ◼️How we used AI-assisted emails, ads, and scripts to create our highest-converting funnel ever ◼️Why I believe the next billion-dollar companies will be run by tiny teams (or even one person) leveraging AI correctly The game has changed. The speed of creation, the volume of output, and the leverage we now have as entrepreneurs is unlike anything I’ve seen in over two decades online. The old way of building companies - with massive teams, long timelines, and slow execution - is disappearing. The entrepreneurs who learn how to think, build, and market with AI won’t just keep up… they’ll dominate. And if you’re willing to dive in and master it, you might just find that your next breakthrough is only one prompt away. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most entrepreneurs are dabbling with AI right now… testing prompts, playing with tools, maybe even writing a few emails with it. But what I’ve realized over the last year is this: AI isn’t just a productivity hack. It’s a force multiplier. And if you learn how to feed it the right context and guide it the right way, it can become the most powerful copywriter, funnel builder, and marketing assistant you’ve ever had. In this episode, I’m recording from my sauna (yes, really) and pulling back the curtain on how I’ve been using AI behind the scenes to write long-form VSLs, build entire challenge funnels, craft 100+ email sequences in hours, and even script full webinars in a single afternoon. I share the exact shift that changed everything for me - from asking AI to “write me a VSL” (and getting garbage) to building a process that produces scripts as good as, or better than, what I could write myself. The result? Some of the highest-converting funnels of my entire career. If you’ve been wondering whether AI is just hype - or the biggest opportunity of our lifetime - this episode will open your eyes to what’s actually possible right now. Key Highlights: ◼️The "500 words of context for every 1 word of output" rule that transformed the quality of my AI-written VSLs ◼️How I wrote three 50-page VSLs in a single day, and why they’re performing at the highest level of my career ◼️The funnel-hacking + AI framework I used to reverse-engineer multiple 8-figure challenges and rebuild them in hours ◼️How we used AI-assisted emails, ads, and scripts to create our highest-converting funnel ever ◼️Why I believe the next billion-dollar companies will be run by tiny teams (or even one person) leveraging AI correctly The game has changed. The speed of creation, the volume of output, and the leverage we now have as entrepreneurs is unlike anything I’ve seen in over two decades online. The old way of building companies - with massive teams, long timelines, and slow execution - is disappearing. The entrepreneurs who learn how to think, build, and market with AI won’t just keep up… they’ll dominate. And if you’re willing to dive in and master it, you might just find that your next breakthrough is only one prompt away. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most entrepreneurs are dabbling with AI right now… testing prompts, playing with tools, maybe even writing a few emails with it. But what I’ve realized over the last year is this: AI isn’t just a productivity hack. It’s a force multiplier. And if you learn how to feed it the right context and guide it the right way, it can become the most powerful copywriter, funnel builder, and marketing assistant you’ve ever had.

In this episode, I’m recording from my sauna (yes, really) and pulling back the curtain on how I’ve been using AI behind the scenes to write long-form VSLs, build entire challenge funnels, craft 100+ email sequences in hours, and even script full webinars in a single afternoon. I share the exact shift that changed everything for me - from asking AI to “write me a VSL” (and getting garbage) to building a process that produces scripts as good as, or better than, what I could write myself. The result? Some of the highest-converting funnels of my entire career.

If you’ve been wondering whether AI is just hype - or the biggest opportunity of our lifetime - this episode will open your eyes to what’s actually possible right now.


Key Highlights:

◼️The "500 words of context for every 1 word of output" rule that transformed the quality of my AI-written VSLs

◼️How I wrote three 50-page VSLs in a single day, and why they’re performing at the highest level of my career

◼️The funnel-hacking + AI framework I used to reverse-engineer multiple 8-figure challenges and rebuild them in hours

◼️How we used AI-assisted emails, ads, and scripts to create our highest-converting funnel ever ◼️Why I believe the next billion-dollar companies will be run by tiny teams (or even one person) leveraging AI correctly


The game has changed. The speed of creation, the volume of output, and the leverage we now have as entrepreneurs is unlike anything I’ve seen in over two decades online. The old way of building companies - with massive teams, long timelines, and slow execution - is disappearing. The entrepreneurs who learn how to think, build, and market with AI won’t just keep up… they’ll dominate. And if you’re willing to dive in and master it, you might just find that your next breakthrough is only one prompt away.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 889 Scaling Online Q&A: Funnels, High Ticket, Ads & More - Part 2 | #Marketing - Ep. 115 Most businesses don’t stall because the product is bad. They stall because the architecture can’t handle scale. In Part Two of this live Scaling Online Q&A, I go deeper into the structural shifts that turn a working funnel into a scalable machine. This episode is a behind-the-scenes look at how I think through bottlenecks in real time - when webinars flop, when ad costs spike, when only 1% of visitors book a call, or when organic momentum is the only thing holding a funnel together. We talk VSL strategy, certification positioning, SaaS trials, bridge pages, continuity layers, and how to engineer predictable growth instead of riding emotional launch cycles. Key Highlights: ◼️Why certification often outsells coaching - and how to reposition your offer for career-driven buyers ◼️The difference between a Level 1 opportunity and a Level 10 opportunity (and why picking wrong caps your income) ◼️How to fix a funnel when only 1% of visitors book a call (and the exact VSL strategy I use) ◼️Why ad costs always rise over time - and how new angles and new VSLs reset your CPA ◼️How to structure SaaS webinars so prospects use the product live instead of just watching a demo ◼️How to scale paid workshops without depending on high-intensity organic pushes ◼️The real role of AI in writing, testing, and mass-producing new creative at speed This episode is about business architecture. It’s about understanding that scale isn’t luck - it’s structure. When something stops converting, the answer isn’t panic. It’s new messaging, new angles, new front-end positioning, and smarter leverage. If part one was about identifying bottlenecks, part two is about redesigning the machine. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 18 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most businesses don’t stall because the product is bad. They stall because the architecture can’t handle scale. In Part Two of this live Scaling Online Q&A, I go deeper into the structural shifts that turn a working funnel into a scalable machine. This episode is a behind-the-scenes look at how I think through bottlenecks in real time - when webinars flop, when ad costs spike, when only 1% of visitors book a call, or when organic momentum is the only thing holding a funnel together. We talk VSL strategy, certification positioning, SaaS trials, bridge pages, continuity layers, and how to engineer predictable growth instead of riding emotional launch cycles. Key Highlights: ◼️Why certification often outsells coaching - and how to reposition your offer for career-driven buyers ◼️The difference between a Level 1 opportunity and a Level 10 opportunity (and why picking wrong caps your income) ◼️How to fix a funnel when only 1% of visitors book a call (and the exact VSL strategy I use) ◼️Why ad costs always rise over time - and how new angles and new VSLs reset your CPA ◼️How to structure SaaS webinars so prospects use the product live instead of just watching a demo ◼️How to scale paid workshops without depending on high-intensity organic pushes ◼️The real role of AI in writing, testing, and mass-producing new creative at speed This episode is about business architecture. It’s about understanding that scale isn’t luck - it’s structure. When something stops converting, the answer isn’t panic. It’s new messaging, new angles, new front-end positioning, and smarter leverage. If part one was about identifying bottlenecks, part two is about redesigning the machine. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most businesses don’t stall because the product is bad. They stall because the architecture can’t handle scale. In Part Two of this live Scaling Online Q&A, I go deeper into the structural shifts that turn a working funnel into a scalable machine.

This episode is a behind-the-scenes look at how I think through bottlenecks in real time - when webinars flop, when ad costs spike, when only 1% of visitors book a call, or when organic momentum is the only thing holding a funnel together. We talk VSL strategy, certification positioning, SaaS trials, bridge pages, continuity layers, and how to engineer predictable growth instead of riding emotional launch cycles.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why certification often outsells coaching - and how to reposition your offer for career-driven buyers

◼️The difference between a Level 1 opportunity and a Level 10 opportunity (and why picking wrong caps your income)

◼️How to fix a funnel when only 1% of visitors book a call (and the exact VSL strategy I use)

◼️Why ad costs always rise over time - and how new angles and new VSLs reset your CPA

◼️How to structure SaaS webinars so prospects use the product live instead of just watching a demo

◼️How to scale paid workshops without depending on high-intensity organic pushes

◼️The real role of AI in writing, testing, and mass-producing new creative at speed


This episode is about business architecture. It’s about understanding that scale isn’t luck - it’s structure. When something stops converting, the answer isn’t panic. It’s new messaging, new angles, new front-end positioning, and smarter leverage.

If part one was about identifying bottlenecks, part two is about redesigning the machine.

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 2891 Scaling Online Q&A: Funnels, High Ticket, Ads & More - Part 1 | #Marketing - Ep. 114 Most entrepreneurs don’t struggle because their offer is bad. They struggle because they’re trying to scale without understanding the real leverage points. In this episode, I’m sharing Part One of a live Q&A I did at Scaling Online - where real entrepreneurs brought me their biggest growth bottlenecks, and we broke them down in real time. We talked about certifications, continuity, high-ticket vs. memberships, regulated industries, health offers, and how to generate cash fast without burning money on ads. This isn’t theory. These are tactical, practical shifts that can completely change how you look at scaling - especially if you’re mission-driven and trying to grow without losing your identity. Key Highlights: ◼️Why getting someone to pay is often the most powerful way to actually serve them - and how commitment changes everything ◼️How to structure high-ticket + continuity together to reduce churn and create compounding revenue ◼️What to sell first when you already have an audience (and why you should grab the pile of cash in front of you before trying to scale) ◼️How to create a powerful “myth” or lead-in offer - even in industries where you don’t control the core product ◼️The smartest way to generate $10 - 20K in 30 days without relying on ads ◼️How to separate lead generation from regulated services while still building authority and desire ◼️The real KPI you should track daily if you want predictable long-term growth This episode is about understanding leverage. It’s about realizing that scaling isn’t always about more complexity - it’s about making and keeping commitments, increasing volume strategically, and structuring your offers so your business compounds instead of resets every month. In part two, we’ll go deeper into additional Q&A, more advanced scaling questions, and the next layer of strategic decisions that separate businesses that plateau from businesses that truly take off. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most entrepreneurs don’t struggle because their offer is bad. They struggle because they’re trying to scale without understanding the real leverage points. In this episode, I’m sharing Part One of a live Q&A I did at Scaling Online - where real entrepreneurs brought me their biggest growth bottlenecks, and we broke them down in real time. We talked about certifications, continuity, high-ticket vs. memberships, regulated industries, health offers, and how to generate cash fast without burning money on ads. This isn’t theory. These are tactical, practical shifts that can completely change how you look at scaling - especially if you’re mission-driven and trying to grow without losing your identity. Key Highlights: ◼️Why getting someone to pay is often the most powerful way to actually serve them - and how commitment changes everything ◼️How to structure high-ticket + continuity together to reduce churn and create compounding revenue ◼️What to sell first when you already have an audience (and why you should grab the pile of cash in front of you before trying to scale) ◼️How to create a powerful “myth” or lead-in offer - even in industries where you don’t control the core product ◼️The smartest way to generate $10 - 20K in 30 days without relying on ads ◼️How to separate lead generation from regulated services while still building authority and desire ◼️The real KPI you should track daily if you want predictable long-term growth This episode is about understanding leverage. It’s about realizing that scaling isn’t always about more complexity - it’s about making and keeping commitments, increasing volume strategically, and structuring your offers so your business compounds instead of resets every month. In part two, we’ll go deeper into additional Q&A, more advanced scaling questions, and the next layer of strategic decisions that separate businesses that plateau from businesses that truly take off. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most entrepreneurs don’t struggle because their offer is bad. They struggle because they’re trying to scale without understanding the real leverage points. In this episode, I’m sharing Part One of a live Q&A I did at Scaling Online - where real entrepreneurs brought me their biggest growth bottlenecks, and we broke them down in real time.

We talked about certifications, continuity, high-ticket vs. memberships, regulated industries, health offers, and how to generate cash fast without burning money on ads. This isn’t theory. These are tactical, practical shifts that can completely change how you look at scaling - especially if you’re mission-driven and trying to grow without losing your identity.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why getting someone to pay is often the most powerful way to actually serve them - and how commitment changes everything

◼️How to structure high-ticket + continuity together to reduce churn and create compounding revenue

◼️What to sell first when you already have an audience (and why you should grab the pile of cash in front of you before trying to scale)

◼️How to create a powerful “myth” or lead-in offer - even in industries where you don’t control the core product

◼️The smartest way to generate $10 - 20K in 30 days without relying on ads

◼️How to separate lead generation from regulated services while still building authority and desire

◼️The real KPI you should track daily if you want predictable long-term growth


This episode is about understanding leverage. It’s about realizing that scaling isn’t always about more complexity - it’s about making and keeping commitments, increasing volume strategically, and structuring your offers so your business compounds instead of resets every month.

In part two, we’ll go deeper into additional Q&A, more advanced scaling questions, and the next layer of strategic decisions that separate businesses that plateau from businesses that truly take off.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2790 Tested Advertising Methods: The Blueprint for Higher Conversions | #Success - Ep. 113 Most entrepreneurs think their funnel is broken when it doesn’t convert. But after building funnels for over two decades, I can tell you the truth… ninety-nine percent of the time, the funnel isn’t the problem. The problem is we haven’t done the work of testing. The difference between a funnel that struggles and one that scales to millions usually comes down to a few small changes - tested intentionally and consistently. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I pull a classic out of my vault: Tested Advertising Methods by John Caples. This is one of the foundational books that shaped modern advertising and completely transformed how I look at marketing. I share the story of my very first split test - changing nothing but the color of a headline - and how that simple tweak increased conversions by nearly 27%, instantly giving me a “raise” without more traffic, more ad spend, or more work. If you’ve ever wanted to know how to systematically grow your business instead of gambling on guesses, this episode is your blueprint. Key Highlights: ◼️Why 80% of your ad’s success depends on the headline - and how to structure it so it pulls people into the first paragraph ◼️The exact split-testing framework I use inside ClickFunnels to “give myself a raise” every single day ◼️The biggest mistake entrepreneurs make when testing (and why testing more than one variable at a time kills your data) ◼️Why specifics dramatically out-convert generalities - and how one precise headline 3X’d our results ◼️How old-school advertisers risked tens of thousands of dollars per test - and what their discipline can teach us today Testing isn’t just a tactic… it’s a philosophy. It’s the difference between hoping your funnel works and knowing it works. When you understand how to test headlines, offers, and pages the right way, you stop guessing and start engineering growth. John Caples mastered this decades ago, and when you adopt that same mindset, you’ll realize you’re just one split test away from your next breakthrough. ◼️⁠⁠⁠https://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠ ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most entrepreneurs think their funnel is broken when it doesn’t convert. But after building funnels for over two decades, I can tell you the truth… ninety-nine percent of the time, the funnel isn’t the problem. The problem is we haven’t done the work of testing. The difference between a funnel that struggles and one that scales to millions usually comes down to a few small changes - tested intentionally and consistently. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I pull a classic out of my vault: Tested Advertising Methods by John Caples. This is one of the foundational books that shaped modern advertising and completely transformed how I look at marketing. I share the story of my very first split test - changing nothing but the color of a headline - and how that simple tweak increased conversions by nearly 27%, instantly giving me a “raise” without more traffic, more ad spend, or more work. If you’ve ever wanted to know how to systematically grow your business instead of gambling on guesses, this episode is your blueprint. Key Highlights: ◼️Why 80% of your ad’s success depends on the headline - and how to structure it so it pulls people into the first paragraph ◼️The exact split-testing framework I use inside ClickFunnels to “give myself a raise” every single day ◼️The biggest mistake entrepreneurs make when testing (and why testing more than one variable at a time kills your data) ◼️Why specifics dramatically out-convert generalities - and how one precise headline 3X’d our results ◼️How old-school advertisers risked tens of thousands of dollars per test - and what their discipline can teach us today Testing isn’t just a tactic… it’s a philosophy. It’s the difference between hoping your funnel works and knowing it works. When you understand how to test headlines, offers, and pages the right way, you stop guessing and start engineering growth. John Caples mastered this decades ago, and when you adopt that same mindset, you’ll realize you’re just one split test away from your next breakthrough. ◼️⁠⁠⁠https://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠ ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most entrepreneurs think their funnel is broken when it doesn’t convert. But after building funnels for over two decades, I can tell you the truth… ninety-nine percent of the time, the funnel isn’t the problem. The problem is we haven’t done the work of testing. The difference between a funnel that struggles and one that scales to millions usually comes down to a few small changes - tested intentionally and consistently.

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I pull a classic out of my vault: Tested Advertising Methods by John Caples.

This is one of the foundational books that shaped modern advertising and completely transformed how I look at marketing. I share the story of my very first split test - changing nothing but the color of a headline - and how that simple tweak increased conversions by nearly 27%, instantly giving me a “raise” without more traffic, more ad spend, or more work.

If you’ve ever wanted to know how to systematically grow your business instead of gambling on guesses, this episode is your blueprint.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why 80% of your ad’s success depends on the headline - and how to structure it so it pulls people into the first paragraph

◼️The exact split-testing framework I use inside ClickFunnels to “give myself a raise” every single day

◼️The biggest mistake entrepreneurs make when testing (and why testing more than one variable at a time kills your data)

◼️Why specifics dramatically out-convert generalities - and how one precise headline 3X’d our results

◼️How old-school advertisers risked tens of thousands of dollars per test - and what their discipline can teach us today


Testing isn’t just a tactic… it’s a philosophy. It’s the difference between hoping your funnel works and knowing it works. When you understand how to test headlines, offers, and pages the right way, you stop guessing and start engineering growth. John Caples mastered this decades ago, and when you adopt that same mindset, you’ll realize you’re just one split test away from your next breakthrough.

◼️⁠⁠⁠https://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 1058 Vanessa Van Edwards on the Hidden Science of Trust, Charisma, and Selling Without Being Salesy | #Marketing - Ep. 112 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Vanessa Van Edwards, and I knew right away this conversation was going to hit differently. I’ve been seeing Vanessa everywhere lately, and when she told me she used funnels and webinars to build her business, my mind was blown. She’s a self-described “recovering awkward person” who turned social anxiety, human behavior research, and relentless testing into a global brand - and along the way, she quietly mastered selling without ever feeling salesy. What fascinated me most wasn’t just her success, but how she got there. Vanessa didn’t chase every platform blindly. She studied people the same way we study funnels. She learned what makes someone trust you, listen to you, and ultimately buy from you - and she applied those principles to webinars, content, books, and partnerships. This episode is a masterclass on communication, charisma, and how deeply understanding people can transform your business Key Highlights: ◼️How Vanessa went from failed book launches and quitting her business to rebuilding everything with webinars, funnels, and aggressively helpful content ◼️Why most entrepreneurs aren’t bad at marketing - they’re under-signaling warmth and competence (and how to fix that) ◼️The real reason some webinars convert for years while others flop, and how balancing credibility with likability changes everything ◼️Her unconventional growth strategy of leveraging platforms (not just social media) like Udemy, MasterClass, and email lists she didn’t own ◼️The exact cues - from voice tone to body language - that instantly increase trust when you’re on stage, on video, or on a sales call We also go deep into her books Captivate and Cues, her upcoming work on conversation, and why charisma isn’t something you’re born with - it’s something you can learn, practice, and systemize. If you’re an introverted entrepreneur, a funnel hacker who loves strategy more than small talk, or someone who knows their message is good but struggles to deliver it confidently, this episode is for you. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Vanessa Van Edwards, and I knew right away this conversation was going to hit differently. I’ve been seeing Vanessa everywhere lately, and when she told me she used funnels and webinars to build her business, my mind was blown. She’s a self-described “recovering awkward person” who turned social anxiety, human behavior research, and relentless testing into a global brand - and along the way, she quietly mastered selling without ever feeling salesy. What fascinated me most wasn’t just her success, but how she got there. Vanessa didn’t chase every platform blindly. She studied people the same way we study funnels. She learned what makes someone trust you, listen to you, and ultimately buy from you - and she applied those principles to webinars, content, books, and partnerships. This episode is a masterclass on communication, charisma, and how deeply understanding people can transform your business Key Highlights: ◼️How Vanessa went from failed book launches and quitting her business to rebuilding everything with webinars, funnels, and aggressively helpful content ◼️Why most entrepreneurs aren’t bad at marketing - they’re under-signaling warmth and competence (and how to fix that) ◼️The real reason some webinars convert for years while others flop, and how balancing credibility with likability changes everything ◼️Her unconventional growth strategy of leveraging platforms (not just social media) like Udemy, MasterClass, and email lists she didn’t own ◼️The exact cues - from voice tone to body language - that instantly increase trust when you’re on stage, on video, or on a sales call We also go deep into her books Captivate and Cues, her upcoming work on conversation, and why charisma isn’t something you’re born with - it’s something you can learn, practice, and systemize. If you’re an introverted entrepreneur, a funnel hacker who loves strategy more than small talk, or someone who knows their message is good but struggles to deliver it confidently, this episode is for you. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Vanessa Van Edwards, and I knew right away this conversation was going to hit differently. I’ve been seeing Vanessa everywhere lately, and when she told me she used funnels and webinars to build her business, my mind was blown. She’s a self-described “recovering awkward person” who turned social anxiety, human behavior research, and relentless testing into a global brand - and along the way, she quietly mastered selling without ever feeling salesy.

What fascinated me most wasn’t just her success, but how she got there. Vanessa didn’t chase every platform blindly. She studied people the same way we study funnels. She learned what makes someone trust you, listen to you, and ultimately buy from you - and she applied those principles to webinars, content, books, and partnerships. This episode is a masterclass on communication, charisma, and how deeply understanding people can transform your business


Key Highlights:

◼️How Vanessa went from failed book launches and quitting her business to rebuilding everything with webinars, funnels, and aggressively helpful content

◼️Why most entrepreneurs aren’t bad at marketing - they’re under-signaling warmth and competence (and how to fix that)

◼️The real reason some webinars convert for years while others flop, and how balancing credibility with likability changes everything

◼️Her unconventional growth strategy of leveraging platforms (not just social media) like Udemy, MasterClass, and email lists she didn’t own

◼️The exact cues - from voice tone to body language - that instantly increase trust when you’re on stage, on video, or on a sales call


We also go deep into her books Captivate and Cues, her upcoming work on conversation, and why charisma isn’t something you’re born with - it’s something you can learn, practice, and systemize. If you’re an introverted entrepreneur, a funnel hacker who loves strategy more than small talk, or someone who knows their message is good but struggles to deliver it confidently, this episode is for you.

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2875 The One Comma Club Challenge: Day 5 of 5 - Making Success Inevitable | #Marketing - Ep. 111 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, everything clicks into place. This is the moment where belief turns into inevitability. After a week of learning funnels, sales, leverage, and speed, today’s focus is on what actually determines whether this time will be different - and why so many smart, capable people get stuck right before the breakthrough. This session isn’t about tactics alone; it’s about identity, commitment, and making the shift from “trying” to deciding. McCall, Kathryn, and I walk you through the six missing keys that stop people from ever reaching their first One Comma Club milestone - and how to remove each one for good. From choosing the right long-term path, to becoming resourceful instead of resource-limited, to selling quietly when you need camouflage, this episode is designed to remove every remaining excuse. We also dive deep into courage - those critical 20 seconds that separate people who talk about success from people who create it - and why community is the final force that makes momentum unstoppable. Key Highlights: ◼️The three paths to scaling your funnel skills - and how to choose the one that fits your life and goals ◼️Why resourcefulness, not resources, is the real unlock to funding your next move ◼️How to sell and land clients privately through DMs when you need discretion or confidence ◼️The power of “20 seconds of insane courage” and why hesitation is more dangerous than failure ◼️How commitment and community turn belief into inevitable results This episode is where everything gets cemented. You’re no longer wondering if funnels, selling, or business can work for you - you’re deciding that they will. When the compass is clear, the excuses are gone, and the courage is activated, momentum becomes unavoidable. This is the point where success stops being a hope and starts becoming a process you can’t unsee. ◼️⁠https://onecommaclub.com⁠ ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, everything clicks into place. This is the moment where belief turns into inevitability. After a week of learning funnels, sales, leverage, and speed, today’s focus is on what actually determines whether this time will be different - and why so many smart, capable people get stuck right before the breakthrough. This session isn’t about tactics alone; it’s about identity, commitment, and making the shift from “trying” to deciding. McCall, Kathryn, and I walk you through the six missing keys that stop people from ever reaching their first One Comma Club milestone - and how to remove each one for good. From choosing the right long-term path, to becoming resourceful instead of resource-limited, to selling quietly when you need camouflage, this episode is designed to remove every remaining excuse. We also dive deep into courage - those critical 20 seconds that separate people who talk about success from people who create it - and why community is the final force that makes momentum unstoppable. Key Highlights: ◼️The three paths to scaling your funnel skills - and how to choose the one that fits your life and goals ◼️Why resourcefulness, not resources, is the real unlock to funding your next move ◼️How to sell and land clients privately through DMs when you need discretion or confidence ◼️The power of “20 seconds of insane courage” and why hesitation is more dangerous than failure ◼️How commitment and community turn belief into inevitable results This episode is where everything gets cemented. You’re no longer wondering if funnels, selling, or business can work for you - you’re deciding that they will. When the compass is clear, the excuses are gone, and the courage is activated, momentum becomes unavoidable. This is the point where success stops being a hope and starts becoming a process you can’t unsee. ◼️⁠https://onecommaclub.com⁠ ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, everything clicks into place. This is the moment where belief turns into inevitability. After a week of learning funnels, sales, leverage, and speed, today’s focus is on what actually determines whether this time will be different - and why so many smart, capable people get stuck right before the breakthrough. This session isn’t about tactics alone; it’s about identity, commitment, and making the shift from “trying” to deciding.

McCall, Kathryn, and I walk you through the six missing keys that stop people from ever reaching their first One Comma Club milestone - and how to remove each one for good. From choosing the right long-term path, to becoming resourceful instead of resource-limited, to selling quietly when you need camouflage, this episode is designed to remove every remaining excuse. We also dive deep into courage - those critical 20 seconds that separate people who talk about success from people who create it - and why community is the final force that makes momentum unstoppable.


Key Highlights:

◼️The three paths to scaling your funnel skills - and how to choose the one that fits your life and goals

◼️Why resourcefulness, not resources, is the real unlock to funding your next move

◼️How to sell and land clients privately through DMs when you need discretion or confidence

◼️The power of “20 seconds of insane courage” and why hesitation is more dangerous than failure

◼️How commitment and community turn belief into inevitable results


This episode is where everything gets cemented. You’re no longer wondering if funnels, selling, or business can work for you - you’re deciding that they will. When the compass is clear, the excuses are gone, and the courage is activated, momentum becomes unavoidable. This is the point where success stops being a hope and starts becoming a process you can’t unsee.


◼️⁠https://onecommaclub.com⁠

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 6102 The One Comma Club Challenge: Day 4 of 5 - Accelerating Results With Leverage | #Marketing - Ep. 110 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we shift gears from effort to leverage - and focus on the fastest path to results once you understand funnels and selling: speed. Day four of the challenge is all about shortcuts - not the sketchy kind, but the kind that come from stacking the right tools, systems, and leverage so you can move faster without sacrificing quality. This is the day where everything accelerates. Today, McCall and I break down the “Race to the One Comma Club” by pulling the two biggest speed levers in your business: time and price. You’ll see how AI, when used the right way, can drastically reduce the time it takes to build funnels while simultaneously increasing their quality and value. From creating better offers to building entire funnels in minutes—and even adding recurring services your clients will happily pay for—this session shows you how to compress months (or years) of work into days. Key Highlights: ◼️The two speed levers that determine how fast you reach your first One Comma Club milestone ◼️How to use AI the funnel hacker way by feeding it the right “brain,” not generic prompts ◼️Why higher-quality funnels allow you to charge more—and get paid faster ◼️A behind-the-scenes look at AI-powered funnel building that turns hours of work into minutes ◼️How adding a newsletter and traffic system creates recurring revenue and client “stickiness” This episode is where leverage replaces grind. You’re no longer just learning how to build funnels—you’re learning how to scale your effort, your value, and your income at the same time. When you combine the right strategy with the right tools, speed becomes inevitable. And once you feel that momentum, it’s hard to ever go back. ◼️https://onecommaclub.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we shift gears from effort to leverage - and focus on the fastest path to results once you understand funnels and selling: speed. Day four of the challenge is all about shortcuts - not the sketchy kind, but the kind that come from stacking the right tools, systems, and leverage so you can move faster without sacrificing quality. This is the day where everything accelerates. Today, McCall and I break down the “Race to the One Comma Club” by pulling the two biggest speed levers in your business: time and price. You’ll see how AI, when used the right way, can drastically reduce the time it takes to build funnels while simultaneously increasing their quality and value. From creating better offers to building entire funnels in minutes—and even adding recurring services your clients will happily pay for—this session shows you how to compress months (or years) of work into days. Key Highlights: ◼️The two speed levers that determine how fast you reach your first One Comma Club milestone ◼️How to use AI the funnel hacker way by feeding it the right “brain,” not generic prompts ◼️Why higher-quality funnels allow you to charge more—and get paid faster ◼️A behind-the-scenes look at AI-powered funnel building that turns hours of work into minutes ◼️How adding a newsletter and traffic system creates recurring revenue and client “stickiness” This episode is where leverage replaces grind. You’re no longer just learning how to build funnels—you’re learning how to scale your effort, your value, and your income at the same time. When you combine the right strategy with the right tools, speed becomes inevitable. And once you feel that momentum, it’s hard to ever go back. ◼️https://onecommaclub.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we shift gears from effort to leverage - and focus on the fastest path to results once you understand funnels and selling: speed. Day four of the challenge is all about shortcuts - not the sketchy kind, but the kind that come from stacking the right tools, systems, and leverage so you can move faster without sacrificing quality. This is the day where everything accelerates.

Today, McCall and I break down the “Race to the One Comma Club” by pulling the two biggest speed levers in your business: time and price. You’ll see how AI, when used the right way, can drastically reduce the time it takes to build funnels while simultaneously increasing their quality and value. From creating better offers to building entire funnels in minutes—and even adding recurring services your clients will happily pay for—this session shows you how to compress months (or years) of work into days.


Key Highlights:

◼️The two speed levers that determine how fast you reach your first One Comma Club milestone

◼️How to use AI the funnel hacker way by feeding it the right “brain,” not generic prompts

◼️Why higher-quality funnels allow you to charge more—and get paid faster

◼️A behind-the-scenes look at AI-powered funnel building that turns hours of work into minutes

◼️How adding a newsletter and traffic system creates recurring revenue and client “stickiness”

This episode is where leverage replaces grind. You’re no longer just learning how to build funnels—you’re learning how to scale your effort, your value, and your income at the same time. When you combine the right strategy with the right tools, speed becomes inevitable. And once you feel that momentum, it’s hard to ever go back.


◼️https://onecommaclub.com

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 6630 The One Comma Club Challenge: Day 3 of 5 - Monetizing Your New Skill | #Marketing - Ep. 109 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we tackle the biggest sticking point for almost everyone once momentum starts building: selling. By day three of the challenge, many of you already had leads, conversations, and even people asking about funnels—but the real question was, how do you actually turn this into money without feeling awkward, pushy, or salesy? Today is about removing that fear completely and replacing it with a system that makes selling feel natural, ethical, and simple. I’m joined by McCall Jones for a powerful training that shows you how to get clients without “closing” in the traditional sense. Instead of pressure, scripts, or high-stress sales tactics, she breaks down a clear, repeatable process that helps prospects want to pay you—often before you ever ask. This session is a turning point in the challenge, where funnel building stops being a hobby and starts becoming a real business skill you can monetize with confidence. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most people don’t have a sales problem—they have a sales system problem ◼️How to use a free sample the right way so prospects naturally want more ◼️The “Hit By a Bus” framework for selling without pressure or pitching ◼️How to show value by highlighting before-and-after differences in a funnel ◼️Simple language shifts that turn conversations into paid projects This episode is where everything clicks. You already know there’s demand. You already know you can build the thing. Now you know how to get paid for it—without becoming someone you’re not. Once you understand this approach, selling stops feeling scary and starts feeling like service. And that’s when this whole opportunity really opens up. ◼️https://onecommaclub.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 28 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we tackle the biggest sticking point for almost everyone once momentum starts building: selling. By day three of the challenge, many of you already had leads, conversations, and even people asking about funnels—but the real question was, how do you actually turn this into money without feeling awkward, pushy, or salesy? Today is about removing that fear completely and replacing it with a system that makes selling feel natural, ethical, and simple. I’m joined by McCall Jones for a powerful training that shows you how to get clients without “closing” in the traditional sense. Instead of pressure, scripts, or high-stress sales tactics, she breaks down a clear, repeatable process that helps prospects want to pay you—often before you ever ask. This session is a turning point in the challenge, where funnel building stops being a hobby and starts becoming a real business skill you can monetize with confidence. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most people don’t have a sales problem—they have a sales system problem ◼️How to use a free sample the right way so prospects naturally want more ◼️The “Hit By a Bus” framework for selling without pressure or pitching ◼️How to show value by highlighting before-and-after differences in a funnel ◼️Simple language shifts that turn conversations into paid projects This episode is where everything clicks. You already know there’s demand. You already know you can build the thing. Now you know how to get paid for it—without becoming someone you’re not. Once you understand this approach, selling stops feeling scary and starts feeling like service. And that’s when this whole opportunity really opens up. ◼️https://onecommaclub.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we tackle the biggest sticking point for almost everyone once momentum starts building: selling. By day three of the challenge, many of you already had leads, conversations, and even people asking about funnels—but the real question was, how do you actually turn this into money without feeling awkward, pushy, or salesy? Today is about removing that fear completely and replacing it with a system that makes selling feel natural, ethical, and simple.

I’m joined by McCall Jones for a powerful training that shows you how to get clients without “closing” in the traditional sense. Instead of pressure, scripts, or high-stress sales tactics, she breaks down a clear, repeatable process that helps prospects want to pay you—often before you ever ask. This session is a turning point in the challenge, where funnel building stops being a hobby and starts becoming a real business skill you can monetize with confidence.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why most people don’t have a sales problem—they have a sales system problem

◼️How to use a free sample the right way so prospects naturally want more

◼️The “Hit By a Bus” framework for selling without pressure or pitching

◼️How to show value by highlighting before-and-after differences in a funnel

◼️Simple language shifts that turn conversations into paid projects


This episode is where everything clicks. You already know there’s demand. You already know you can build the thing. Now you know how to get paid for it—without becoming someone you’re not. Once you understand this approach, selling stops feeling scary and starts feeling like service. And that’s when this whole opportunity really opens up.

◼️https://onecommaclub.com

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 7173 The One Comma Club Challenge: Day 2 of 5 - Turning Belief Into Ability | #Marketing - Ep. 108 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we take the next step inside the One Comma Club Challenge by moving from belief into execution. After Day 1, a lot of people took action fast—and many of you suddenly found yourselves with real leads, real conversations, and real pressure to deliver. Today’s training is about removing that overwhelm and showing you exactly what to do when opportunity shows up. This is where we stop talking theory and start building real skills. I’m joined by Catherine Jones for a hands-on workshop that breaks funnel building down into a simple, repeatable system anyone can follow—even if you’ve never designed a page before. Instead of guessing, getting creative, or trying to learn everything at once, we walk through how to model what already works, rebuild proven funnels step by step, and gain confidence by actually doing the work. This is where “I hope I can do this” turns into “I know how to do this.” Key Highlights: ◼️Why most funnels don’t fail because of design—but because people overcomplicate the process ◼️How to recreate a proven funnel step by step without guessing ◼️The six-part SWIPES framework for building high-converting funnels ◼️Why funnel design is the easiest and fastest skill to sell online ◼️How modeling beats creativity when you’re just getting started ◼️Why confidence comes after taking action—not before This episode is where things start to feel real. You’re no longer just learning about funnels—you’re learning how to build them. If the first training showed you what was possible, this one shows you how to make it happen. And once you understand this process, you’ll never look at funnels, websites, or online opportunities the same way again. ◼️https://onecommaclub.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 26 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we take the next step inside the One Comma Club Challenge by moving from belief into execution. After Day 1, a lot of people took action fast—and many of you suddenly found yourselves with real leads, real conversations, and real pressure to deliver. Today’s training is about removing that overwhelm and showing you exactly what to do when opportunity shows up. This is where we stop talking theory and start building real skills. I’m joined by Catherine Jones for a hands-on workshop that breaks funnel building down into a simple, repeatable system anyone can follow—even if you’ve never designed a page before. Instead of guessing, getting creative, or trying to learn everything at once, we walk through how to model what already works, rebuild proven funnels step by step, and gain confidence by actually doing the work. This is where “I hope I can do this” turns into “I know how to do this.” Key Highlights: ◼️Why most funnels don’t fail because of design—but because people overcomplicate the process ◼️How to recreate a proven funnel step by step without guessing ◼️The six-part SWIPES framework for building high-converting funnels ◼️Why funnel design is the easiest and fastest skill to sell online ◼️How modeling beats creativity when you’re just getting started ◼️Why confidence comes after taking action—not before This episode is where things start to feel real. You’re no longer just learning about funnels—you’re learning how to build them. If the first training showed you what was possible, this one shows you how to make it happen. And once you understand this process, you’ll never look at funnels, websites, or online opportunities the same way again. ◼️https://onecommaclub.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we take the next step inside the One Comma Club Challenge by moving from belief into execution. After Day 1, a lot of people took action fast—and many of you suddenly found yourselves with real leads, real conversations, and real pressure to deliver. Today’s training is about removing that overwhelm and showing you exactly what to do when opportunity shows up. This is where we stop talking theory and start building real skills.

I’m joined by Catherine Jones for a hands-on workshop that breaks funnel building down into a simple, repeatable system anyone can follow—even if you’ve never designed a page before. Instead of guessing, getting creative, or trying to learn everything at once, we walk through how to model what already works, rebuild proven funnels step by step, and gain confidence by actually doing the work. This is where “I hope I can do this” turns into “I know how to do this.”


Key Highlights:

◼️Why most funnels don’t fail because of design—but because people overcomplicate the process

◼️How to recreate a proven funnel step by step without guessing

◼️The six-part SWIPES framework for building high-converting funnels

◼️Why funnel design is the easiest and fastest skill to sell online

◼️How modeling beats creativity when you’re just getting started

◼️Why confidence comes after taking action—not before


This episode is where things start to feel real. You’re no longer just learning about funnels—you’re learning how to build them. If the first training showed you what was possible, this one shows you how to make it happen. And once you understand this process, you’ll never look at funnels, websites, or online opportunities the same way again.

◼️https://onecommaclub.com


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 8090 The One Comma Club Challenge: Day 1 of 5 - Building Belief First | #Marketing - Ep. 107 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m bringing you the first training from a brand-new series inside the One Comma Club Challenge, where I break down the fastest and most realistic path to earning your first $1,000 online. This isn’t about building a massive business, chasing big visions, or learning dozens of skills at once. It’s about belief, momentum, and getting that first win that proves this actually works. I share why your first small success matters more than any future milestone, and how that single moment of proof can permanently change how you see yourself as an entrepreneur. Throughout this opening training, I lay the foundation for everything that’s coming next in the challenge. You’ll hear why most people stall out by trying to “build a business” instead of becoming valuable first, and why mastering one highly profitable skill—funnel building—creates immediate leverage in almost any market. With personal stories, real-world examples, and a clear roadmap, I explain how becoming a rainmaker for other businesses is often the shortest path to income, confidence, and long-term opportunity in a rapidly changing economy. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the first $1,000 is the most important milestone in entrepreneurship ◼️How the One Comma Club represents belief, momentum, and proof ◼️Why building funnels for other people is the fastest path to income ◼️What it means to become a “rainmaker” in any business or industry ◼️Why mastering one funnel beats trying to master every business model ◼️How small wins create the confidence most people are missing This episode sets the stage for the entire One Comma Club Challenge, and it’s just the beginning. Your first win won’t make you rich—but it will change what you believe is possible. Get excited, stay focused, and be ready, because in the next episode we dive into the next training where we start installing the actual skill set that turns belief into real results. ◼️https://onecommaclub.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 21 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m bringing you the first training from a brand-new series inside the One Comma Club Challenge, where I break down the fastest and most realistic path to earning your first $1,000 online. This isn’t about building a massive business, chasing big visions, or learning dozens of skills at once. It’s about belief, momentum, and getting that first win that proves this actually works. I share why your first small success matters more than any future milestone, and how that single moment of proof can permanently change how you see yourself as an entrepreneur. Throughout this opening training, I lay the foundation for everything that’s coming next in the challenge. You’ll hear why most people stall out by trying to “build a business” instead of becoming valuable first, and why mastering one highly profitable skill—funnel building—creates immediate leverage in almost any market. With personal stories, real-world examples, and a clear roadmap, I explain how becoming a rainmaker for other businesses is often the shortest path to income, confidence, and long-term opportunity in a rapidly changing economy. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the first $1,000 is the most important milestone in entrepreneurship ◼️How the One Comma Club represents belief, momentum, and proof ◼️Why building funnels for other people is the fastest path to income ◼️What it means to become a “rainmaker” in any business or industry ◼️Why mastering one funnel beats trying to master every business model ◼️How small wins create the confidence most people are missing This episode sets the stage for the entire One Comma Club Challenge, and it’s just the beginning. Your first win won’t make you rich—but it will change what you believe is possible. Get excited, stay focused, and be ready, because in the next episode we dive into the next training where we start installing the actual skill set that turns belief into real results. ◼️https://onecommaclub.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m bringing you the first training from a brand-new series inside the One Comma Club Challenge, where I break down the fastest and most realistic path to earning your first $1,000 online. This isn’t about building a massive business, chasing big visions, or learning dozens of skills at once. It’s about belief, momentum, and getting that first win that proves this actually works. I share why your first small success matters more than any future milestone, and how that single moment of proof can permanently change how you see yourself as an entrepreneur.

Throughout this opening training, I lay the foundation for everything that’s coming next in the challenge. You’ll hear why most people stall out by trying to “build a business” instead of becoming valuable first, and why mastering one highly profitable skill—funnel building—creates immediate leverage in almost any market. With personal stories, real-world examples, and a clear roadmap, I explain how becoming a rainmaker for other businesses is often the shortest path to income, confidence, and long-term opportunity in a rapidly changing economy.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why the first $1,000 is the most important milestone in entrepreneurship

◼️How the One Comma Club represents belief, momentum, and proof

◼️Why building funnels for other people is the fastest path to income

◼️What it means to become a “rainmaker” in any business or industry

◼️Why mastering one funnel beats trying to master every business model

◼️How small wins create the confidence most people are missing


This episode sets the stage for the entire One Comma Club Challenge, and it’s just the beginning. Your first win won’t make you rich—but it will change what you believe is possible. Get excited, stay focused, and be ready, because in the next episode we dive into the next training where we start installing the actual skill set that turns belief into real results.

◼️https://onecommaclub.com

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 4994 The One Comma Club Challenge: The Real Starting Point for Making Money Online | #Marketing - Ep. 106 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I wanted to give you a little behind-the-scenes context for what we’re about to do and why I’m so excited about the One Comma Club Challenge. Over the years, I’ve talked a lot about being “one funnel away,” and I’ve lived it myself — through the ups, the downs, the wins, and the moments where nothing seems to work. This episode is me pulling back the curtain on what I’ve been working on, why this challenge exists, and who it’s really for. I’m not teaching the process yet — that’s coming over the next few episodes as I share recordings from the live challenge — but I am sharing the thinking behind it. Why making your first comma matters, why most people don’t need more tactics, more funnels, or more platforms, and why giving yourself proof that this works is often the thing that changes everything. Key Highlights: ◼️Why I believe one funnel can still change the entire direction of your business ◼️What inspired me to create the One Comma Club Challenge ◼️How I rethought the structure of this challenge after studying what actually works If you’re at the beginning of your journey, or you’ve been stuck trying to get something to work and wondering if you’re crazy, this is for you. I built the One Comma Club Challenge to help you get proof — real proof — that you can make money online. If you want to come hang out with us live, go to https://onecommaclub.com and join the challenge. I’ll be there every day, going all in to help you get your first comma. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I wanted to give you a little behind-the-scenes context for what we’re about to do and why I’m so excited about the One Comma Club Challenge. Over the years, I’ve talked a lot about being “one funnel away,” and I’ve lived it myself — through the ups, the downs, the wins, and the moments where nothing seems to work. This episode is me pulling back the curtain on what I’ve been working on, why this challenge exists, and who it’s really for. I’m not teaching the process yet — that’s coming over the next few episodes as I share recordings from the live challenge — but I am sharing the thinking behind it. Why making your first comma matters, why most people don’t need more tactics, more funnels, or more platforms, and why giving yourself proof that this works is often the thing that changes everything. Key Highlights: ◼️Why I believe one funnel can still change the entire direction of your business ◼️What inspired me to create the One Comma Club Challenge ◼️How I rethought the structure of this challenge after studying what actually works If you’re at the beginning of your journey, or you’ve been stuck trying to get something to work and wondering if you’re crazy, this is for you. I built the One Comma Club Challenge to help you get proof — real proof — that you can make money online. If you want to come hang out with us live, go to https://onecommaclub.com and join the challenge. I’ll be there every day, going all in to help you get your first comma. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I wanted to give you a little behind-the-scenes context for what we’re about to do and why I’m so excited about the One Comma Club Challenge. Over the years, I’ve talked a lot about being “one funnel away,” and I’ve lived it myself — through the ups, the downs, the wins, and the moments where nothing seems to work. This episode is me pulling back the curtain on what I’ve been working on, why this challenge exists, and who it’s really for.

I’m not teaching the process yet — that’s coming over the next few episodes as I share recordings from the live challenge — but I am sharing the thinking behind it. Why making your first comma matters, why most people don’t need more tactics, more funnels, or more platforms, and why giving yourself proof that this works is often the thing that changes everything.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why I believe one funnel can still change the entire direction of your business

◼️What inspired me to create the One Comma Club Challenge

◼️How I rethought the structure of this challenge after studying what actually works


If you’re at the beginning of your journey, or you’ve been stuck trying to get something to work and wondering if you’re crazy, this is for you. I built the One Comma Club Challenge to help you get proof — real proof — that you can make money online. If you want to come hang out with us live, go to https://onecommaclub.com and join the challenge. I’ll be there every day, going all in to help you get your first comma.

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 569 Drifter vs. the Driven: Breaking the Patterns That Hold You Back - Part 2 | #Success - Ep. 105 Welcome to part two of my drifter vs. driven presentation. This is where everything clicks—and where things get uncomfortable in the best way possible. In part one, I helped you recognize where drifting starts and why so many people feel stuck even though they’re working hard. In this episode, I walk you through how driven people actually break free from those patterns. This isn’t a hype talk. This is about identity, belief, and the internal systems that quietly control your behavior. I share the frameworks I’ve used in wrestling, business, and life to move forward when fear, resistance, and old habits try to pull you back. If you’ve ever felt like you know you’re capable of more but can’t quite access it, this episode will show you why. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the most powerful driven identity you can adopt is becoming the learner—and why it’s completely anti-fragile ◼️How clarifying your values creates real motivation instead of relying on willpower ◼️Why having a definite purpose is the true dividing line between drifters and driven people ◼️How resistance is proof you’re on the right path, not a sign to stop ◼️Why rules, standards, and guardrails matter more than motivation ◼️The only belief that truly matters—and why you don’t need talent, luck, or special gifts to win Drifting doesn’t happen because you’re lazy or broken. It happens because unconscious patterns are running your life. In this episode, I show you how to surface those patterns, replace them with faith-driven systems, and start moving forward on purpose. If part one helped you see where you’ve been drifting, part two gives you the framework to become driven. Listen closely—because once you understand this, it becomes almost impossible to keep playing small. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to part two of my drifter vs. driven presentation. This is where everything clicks—and where things get uncomfortable in the best way possible. In part one, I helped you recognize where drifting starts and why so many people feel stuck even though they’re working hard. In this episode, I walk you through how driven people actually break free from those patterns. This isn’t a hype talk. This is about identity, belief, and the internal systems that quietly control your behavior. I share the frameworks I’ve used in wrestling, business, and life to move forward when fear, resistance, and old habits try to pull you back. If you’ve ever felt like you know you’re capable of more but can’t quite access it, this episode will show you why. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the most powerful driven identity you can adopt is becoming the learner—and why it’s completely anti-fragile ◼️How clarifying your values creates real motivation instead of relying on willpower ◼️Why having a definite purpose is the true dividing line between drifters and driven people ◼️How resistance is proof you’re on the right path, not a sign to stop ◼️Why rules, standards, and guardrails matter more than motivation ◼️The only belief that truly matters—and why you don’t need talent, luck, or special gifts to win Drifting doesn’t happen because you’re lazy or broken. It happens because unconscious patterns are running your life. In this episode, I show you how to surface those patterns, replace them with faith-driven systems, and start moving forward on purpose. If part one helped you see where you’ve been drifting, part two gives you the framework to become driven. Listen closely—because once you understand this, it becomes almost impossible to keep playing small. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome to part two of my drifter vs. driven presentation. This is where everything clicks—and where things get uncomfortable in the best way possible. In part one, I helped you recognize where drifting starts and why so many people feel stuck even though they’re working hard. In this episode, I walk you through how driven people actually break free from those patterns.

This isn’t a hype talk. This is about identity, belief, and the internal systems that quietly control your behavior. I share the frameworks I’ve used in wrestling, business, and life to move forward when fear, resistance, and old habits try to pull you back. If you’ve ever felt like you know you’re capable of more but can’t quite access it, this episode will show you why.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why the most powerful driven identity you can adopt is becoming the learner—and why it’s completely anti-fragile

◼️How clarifying your values creates real motivation instead of relying on willpower

◼️Why having a definite purpose is the true dividing line between drifters and driven people

◼️How resistance is proof you’re on the right path, not a sign to stop

◼️Why rules, standards, and guardrails matter more than motivation

◼️The only belief that truly matters—and why you don’t need talent, luck, or special gifts to win

Drifting doesn’t happen because you’re lazy or broken. It happens because unconscious patterns are running your life. In this episode, I show you how to surface those patterns, replace them with faith-driven systems, and start moving forward on purpose.

If part one helped you see where you’ve been drifting, part two gives you the framework to become driven. Listen closely—because once you understand this, it becomes almost impossible to keep playing small.

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 4603 Drifter vs. the Driven: Breaking the Patterns That Hold You Back - Part 1 | #Success - Ep. 104 Most people don’t fail because they lack talent, opportunity, or intelligence. They fail because they drift. In this special midnight mastermind session recorded live at Mastermind in Paradise, I share a concept I’ve been wrestling with for years: the difference between drifters and the driven. This isn’t a motivational talk. It’s a deep psychological breakdown of why so many capable people stall out—and how a subtle habit of drifting quietly takes control of nearly every area of life. This is Part one of a two-part series, and it’s where I trace this idea back to Napoleon Hill’s Outwitting the Devil. I break down the forces of fear, faith, and hypnotic rhythm, and how they shape your decisions long before you’re even aware of them. If you’ve ever felt busy but not progressing, committed but stuck, this episode will help you see exactly where your momentum breaks—and how to start taking it back. Key Highlights: ◼️What “drifting” really means and why Napoleon Hill believed it controlled 98% of people ◼️How fear works at the subconscious level to sabotage decisions before you consciously make them ◼️The difference between faith-driven action and fear-based hesitation ◼️Why habits—not circumstances—determine whether someone becomes driven or disappears ◼️How hypnotic rhythm locks people into patterns of failure or success ◼️The ten drifter identities and how to recognize the one you default to under pressure This episode lays the foundation for understanding why willpower alone never creates lasting change. I show how drifting is learned, reinforced, and normalized—and how driven individuals interrupt those patterns to reclaim control of their future. Part one is about awareness, identity, and breaking free from unconscious momentum. In Part two, I’ll go deeper into how to reprogram those patterns, replace fear with faith, and deliberately build the rhythms that create real, sustained progress. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 12 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most people don’t fail because they lack talent, opportunity, or intelligence. They fail because they drift. In this special midnight mastermind session recorded live at Mastermind in Paradise, I share a concept I’ve been wrestling with for years: the difference between drifters and the driven. This isn’t a motivational talk. It’s a deep psychological breakdown of why so many capable people stall out—and how a subtle habit of drifting quietly takes control of nearly every area of life. This is Part one of a two-part series, and it’s where I trace this idea back to Napoleon Hill’s Outwitting the Devil. I break down the forces of fear, faith, and hypnotic rhythm, and how they shape your decisions long before you’re even aware of them. If you’ve ever felt busy but not progressing, committed but stuck, this episode will help you see exactly where your momentum breaks—and how to start taking it back. Key Highlights: ◼️What “drifting” really means and why Napoleon Hill believed it controlled 98% of people ◼️How fear works at the subconscious level to sabotage decisions before you consciously make them ◼️The difference between faith-driven action and fear-based hesitation ◼️Why habits—not circumstances—determine whether someone becomes driven or disappears ◼️How hypnotic rhythm locks people into patterns of failure or success ◼️The ten drifter identities and how to recognize the one you default to under pressure This episode lays the foundation for understanding why willpower alone never creates lasting change. I show how drifting is learned, reinforced, and normalized—and how driven individuals interrupt those patterns to reclaim control of their future. Part one is about awareness, identity, and breaking free from unconscious momentum. In Part two, I’ll go deeper into how to reprogram those patterns, replace fear with faith, and deliberately build the rhythms that create real, sustained progress. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most people don’t fail because they lack talent, opportunity, or intelligence. They fail because they drift. In this special midnight mastermind session recorded live at Mastermind in Paradise, I share a concept I’ve been wrestling with for years: the difference between drifters and the driven. This isn’t a motivational talk. It’s a deep psychological breakdown of why so many capable people stall out—and how a subtle habit of drifting quietly takes control of nearly every area of life.

This is Part one of a two-part series, and it’s where I trace this idea back to Napoleon Hill’s Outwitting the Devil. I break down the forces of fear, faith, and hypnotic rhythm, and how they shape your decisions long before you’re even aware of them. If you’ve ever felt busy but not progressing, committed but stuck, this episode will help you see exactly where your momentum breaks—and how to start taking it back.


Key Highlights:

◼️What “drifting” really means and why Napoleon Hill believed it controlled 98% of people

◼️How fear works at the subconscious level to sabotage decisions before you consciously make them

◼️The difference between faith-driven action and fear-based hesitation

◼️Why habits—not circumstances—determine whether someone becomes driven or disappears

◼️How hypnotic rhythm locks people into patterns of failure or success

◼️The ten drifter identities and how to recognize the one you default to under pressure


This episode lays the foundation for understanding why willpower alone never creates lasting change. I show how drifting is learned, reinforced, and normalized—and how driven individuals interrupt those patterns to reclaim control of their future. Part one is about awareness, identity, and breaking free from unconscious momentum.

In Part two, I’ll go deeper into how to reprogram those patterns, replace fear with faith, and deliberately build the rhythms that create real, sustained progress.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 3756 The Science of Scaling with Dr. Benjamin Hardy - Part 2 | #Success - Ep. 103 Part one of this two part series with Dr. Benjamin Hardy here on The Russell Brunson Show reframed how scaling actually works. Part two forces the decisions most people avoid. In this episode, Dr. Hardy challenges the comfort zones that quietly cap growth.  This conversation is about the choices that separate people who stay busy from those who actually scale. It’s about why bigger futures demand cleaner focus, fewer priorities, and the courage to let go of paths that no longer fit. If you have ever felt like you’re doing a lot but still hitting an invisible ceiling, this episode explains why. Key Highlights: ◼️Why impossible goals force clarity by eliminating dead-end paths, complexity, and unfocused effort ◼️How stretch goals shift attention away from old routines and toward entirely new strategies and partnerships ◼️The danger of optimizing for activity instead of results and how systems always produce what they’re designed for ◼️Why scaling requires applying the power law by finding one “super who” instead of doing linear work yourself ◼️How raising your floor means letting go of good opportunities, old identities, and even businesses you love The real danger is not failing. It’s staying successful at a level that no longer matches your potential. This episode will push you to question what you’re holding onto, what you’re tolerating, and what needs to change if you want a different future.  If part one helped you see the problem, part two gives you the pressure to act! Listen closely, because once you hear this, it becomes much harder to keep playing small! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 07 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Part one of this two part series with Dr. Benjamin Hardy here on The Russell Brunson Show reframed how scaling actually works. Part two forces the decisions most people avoid. In this episode, Dr. Hardy challenges the comfort zones that quietly cap growth.  This conversation is about the choices that separate people who stay busy from those who actually scale. It’s about why bigger futures demand cleaner focus, fewer priorities, and the courage to let go of paths that no longer fit. If you have ever felt like you’re doing a lot but still hitting an invisible ceiling, this episode explains why. Key Highlights: ◼️Why impossible goals force clarity by eliminating dead-end paths, complexity, and unfocused effort ◼️How stretch goals shift attention away from old routines and toward entirely new strategies and partnerships ◼️The danger of optimizing for activity instead of results and how systems always produce what they’re designed for ◼️Why scaling requires applying the power law by finding one “super who” instead of doing linear work yourself ◼️How raising your floor means letting go of good opportunities, old identities, and even businesses you love The real danger is not failing. It’s staying successful at a level that no longer matches your potential. This episode will push you to question what you’re holding onto, what you’re tolerating, and what needs to change if you want a different future.  If part one helped you see the problem, part two gives you the pressure to act! Listen closely, because once you hear this, it becomes much harder to keep playing small! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Part one of this two part series with Dr. Benjamin Hardy here on The Russell Brunson Show reframed how scaling actually works. Part two forces the decisions most people avoid. In this episode, Dr. Hardy challenges the comfort zones that quietly cap growth. 

This conversation is about the choices that separate people who stay busy from those who actually scale. It’s about why bigger futures demand cleaner focus, fewer priorities, and the courage to let go of paths that no longer fit. If you have ever felt like you’re doing a lot but still hitting an invisible ceiling, this episode explains why.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why impossible goals force clarity by eliminating dead-end paths, complexity, and unfocused effort

◼️How stretch goals shift attention away from old routines and toward entirely new strategies and partnerships

◼️The danger of optimizing for activity instead of results and how systems always produce what they’re designed for

◼️Why scaling requires applying the power law by finding one “super who” instead of doing linear work yourself

◼️How raising your floor means letting go of good opportunities, old identities, and even businesses you love


The real danger is not failing. It’s staying successful at a level that no longer matches your potential. This episode will push you to question what you’re holding onto, what you’re tolerating, and what needs to change if you want a different future. 

If part one helped you see the problem, part two gives you the pressure to act! Listen closely, because once you hear this, it becomes much harder to keep playing small!

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 3512 The Science of Scaling with Dr. Benjamin Hardy - Part 1 | #Success - Ep. 102 Scaling does not start with tactics, systems, or working harder. It starts with how you think about the future. In part one of this two-part series, I share a powerful presentation from Dr. Benjamin Hardy given at Mastermind in Paradise right after the release of his book The Science of Scaling. This session goes deep into the psychology behind growth and why most entrepreneurs stay stuck not because of external limits, but because of the goals they choose and the timelines they attach to them. This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is not about what to scale. It is about how your future goals shape your present behavior, your decisions, and the systems you build. If you feel busy but not moving, ambitious but capped, this conversation will reframe how you think about growth entirely. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the future you commit to shapes your psychology more than your past ever could ◼️How Viktor Frankl’s work on meaning explains why people lose traction without a compelling future goal ◼️The difference between linear growth and true scaling, and why most businesses unknowingly optimize for the wrong path ◼️How raising your goal forces you to simplify your business by stripping out noise, dead ends, and false requirements ◼️How “frame,” “floor,” and “focus” shape your ability to grow, and why raising your floor matters more than most people think In this first session, Ben lays the psychological foundation for everything that follows. He shows how goals are tools, not judgments, and how a bigger future helps you see clearly what no longer belongs in your present. This episode will challenge the way you think about time, ambition, and growth, and it sets the stage for the strategic decisions explored in part two. Stay tuned for Part Two, where the conversation moves deeper into execution, accountability, and building systems that can actually scale. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 05 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Scaling does not start with tactics, systems, or working harder. It starts with how you think about the future. In part one of this two-part series, I share a powerful presentation from Dr. Benjamin Hardy given at Mastermind in Paradise right after the release of his book The Science of Scaling. This session goes deep into the psychology behind growth and why most entrepreneurs stay stuck not because of external limits, but because of the goals they choose and the timelines they attach to them. This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is not about what to scale. It is about how your future goals shape your present behavior, your decisions, and the systems you build. If you feel busy but not moving, ambitious but capped, this conversation will reframe how you think about growth entirely. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the future you commit to shapes your psychology more than your past ever could ◼️How Viktor Frankl’s work on meaning explains why people lose traction without a compelling future goal ◼️The difference between linear growth and true scaling, and why most businesses unknowingly optimize for the wrong path ◼️How raising your goal forces you to simplify your business by stripping out noise, dead ends, and false requirements ◼️How “frame,” “floor,” and “focus” shape your ability to grow, and why raising your floor matters more than most people think In this first session, Ben lays the psychological foundation for everything that follows. He shows how goals are tools, not judgments, and how a bigger future helps you see clearly what no longer belongs in your present. This episode will challenge the way you think about time, ambition, and growth, and it sets the stage for the strategic decisions explored in part two. Stay tuned for Part Two, where the conversation moves deeper into execution, accountability, and building systems that can actually scale. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Scaling does not start with tactics, systems, or working harder. It starts with how you think about the future. In part one of this two-part series, I share a powerful presentation from Dr. Benjamin Hardy given at Mastermind in Paradise right after the release of his book The Science of Scaling. This session goes deep into the psychology behind growth and why most entrepreneurs stay stuck not because of external limits, but because of the goals they choose and the timelines they attach to them.

This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is not about what to scale. It is about how your future goals shape your present behavior, your decisions, and the systems you build. If you feel busy but not moving, ambitious but capped, this conversation will reframe how you think about growth entirely.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why the future you commit to shapes your psychology more than your past ever could

◼️How Viktor Frankl’s work on meaning explains why people lose traction without a compelling future goal

◼️The difference between linear growth and true scaling, and why most businesses unknowingly optimize for the wrong path

◼️How raising your goal forces you to simplify your business by stripping out noise, dead ends, and false requirements

◼️How “frame,” “floor,” and “focus” shape your ability to grow, and why raising your floor matters more than most people think


In this first session, Ben lays the psychological foundation for everything that follows. He shows how goals are tools, not judgments, and how a bigger future helps you see clearly what no longer belongs in your present. This episode will challenge the way you think about time, ambition, and growth, and it sets the stage for the strategic decisions explored in part two.

Stay tuned for Part Two, where the conversation moves deeper into execution, accountability, and building systems that can actually scale.

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 3389 Propaganda and the Shocking Science and Psychology of Persuasion | #Marketing - Ep. 101 I want you to listen to this episode of The Russell Brunson Show with a different level of awareness. This is not just a breakdown of a video sales letter or a history lesson. It is the story of how persuasion actually works, where it came from, and why almost everything you see in marketing, politics, and media today traces back to a single hidden lineage. This episode walks through the uncomfortable truth behind influence and why understanding it is no longer optional if you want to build, sell, or lead in a world driven by attention. Key Highlights: ◼️How Sigmund Freud uncovered the unconscious drivers of human behavior and why those discoveries terrified him when they were used at scale ◼️How Edward Bernays weaponized Freud’s work, shifted advertising from logic to emotion, and created modern propaganda through desire and identity ◼️Why Bernays believed democracy required manipulation and how his book Propaganda openly explains the engineering of consent ◼️How Dan Kennedy took Bernays’ ideas even deeper, refining persuasion into systems that influence high level decision makers, not just the masses ◼️Why these same psychological frameworks still drive webinars, VSLs, funnels, and buying behavior today, whether people realize it or not The reason this matters is simple. These tools exist. They have shaped the last century of buying, believing, and behaving. You can either stay unaware and be influenced by them, or you can understand how they work and choose how to use them ethically in your own business. This episode is about pulling back the curtain so you can finally see the system behind persuasion and decide what role you want to play inside it. ◼️If you want to watch the full Bernays presentation I reference in this episode, you can find it here: https://secretsofpropaganda.com◼️And if you want access to the event I mention at the end, including the Propaganda book bonus, the link shared in the episode is: https://secretsofpropaganda.com/buy ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media I want you to listen to this episode of The Russell Brunson Show with a different level of awareness. This is not just a breakdown of a video sales letter or a history lesson. It is the story of how persuasion actually works, where it came from, and why almost everything you see in marketing, politics, and media today traces back to a single hidden lineage. This episode walks through the uncomfortable truth behind influence and why understanding it is no longer optional if you want to build, sell, or lead in a world driven by attention. Key Highlights: ◼️How Sigmund Freud uncovered the unconscious drivers of human behavior and why those discoveries terrified him when they were used at scale ◼️How Edward Bernays weaponized Freud’s work, shifted advertising from logic to emotion, and created modern propaganda through desire and identity ◼️Why Bernays believed democracy required manipulation and how his book Propaganda openly explains the engineering of consent ◼️How Dan Kennedy took Bernays’ ideas even deeper, refining persuasion into systems that influence high level decision makers, not just the masses ◼️Why these same psychological frameworks still drive webinars, VSLs, funnels, and buying behavior today, whether people realize it or not The reason this matters is simple. These tools exist. They have shaped the last century of buying, believing, and behaving. You can either stay unaware and be influenced by them, or you can understand how they work and choose how to use them ethically in your own business. This episode is about pulling back the curtain so you can finally see the system behind persuasion and decide what role you want to play inside it. ◼️If you want to watch the full Bernays presentation I reference in this episode, you can find it here: https://secretsofpropaganda.com◼️And if you want access to the event I mention at the end, including the Propaganda book bonus, the link shared in the episode is: https://secretsofpropaganda.com/buy ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I want you to listen to this episode of The Russell Brunson Show with a different level of awareness. This is not just a breakdown of a video sales letter or a history lesson. It is the story of how persuasion actually works, where it came from, and why almost everything you see in marketing, politics, and media today traces back to a single hidden lineage. This episode walks through the uncomfortable truth behind influence and why understanding it is no longer optional if you want to build, sell, or lead in a world driven by attention.


Key Highlights:

◼️How Sigmund Freud uncovered the unconscious drivers of human behavior and why those discoveries terrified him when they were used at scale

◼️How Edward Bernays weaponized Freud’s work, shifted advertising from logic to emotion, and created modern propaganda through desire and identity

◼️Why Bernays believed democracy required manipulation and how his book Propaganda openly explains the engineering of consent

◼️How Dan Kennedy took Bernays’ ideas even deeper, refining persuasion into systems that influence high level decision makers, not just the masses

◼️Why these same psychological frameworks still drive webinars, VSLs, funnels, and buying behavior today, whether people realize it or not


The reason this matters is simple. These tools exist. They have shaped the last century of buying, believing, and behaving. You can either stay unaware and be influenced by them, or you can understand how they work and choose how to use them ethically in your own business. This episode is about pulling back the curtain so you can finally see the system behind persuasion and decide what role you want to play inside it.


◼️If you want to watch the full Bernays presentation I reference in this episode, you can find it here: https://secretsofpropaganda.com
◼️And if you want access to the event I mention at the end, including the Propaganda book bonus, the link shared in the episode is: https://secretsofpropaganda.com/buy


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]]> 2956 Leveling Up and Leaving the Old Version of Yourself Behind | #Success - Ep. 100 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share a raw, unscripted talk from a private mastermind where I break down what it actually takes to level up in business and in life. This is not about tactics, funnels, or hacks. It is about the internal shifts, humility, and skill rebuilding required when the old version of you can no longer take you where you want to go. Through personal stories from wrestling, entrepreneurship, faith, and leadership, I explain why growth feels uncomfortable and why that discomfort is often the signal that you are on the right path. Rather than teaching another framework, I’m walking you through the psychological and emotional realities of moving from one level to the next, and why most people stall out when their ego refuses to let go of past success. Key Highlights: ◼️Why every new level of success requires abandoning the skill sets that previously worked ◼️How the Hero’s Journey explains personal growth, plateaus, and the need to leave the “ordinary world” ◼️Why ego and attachment to past wins are often the biggest blockers to scaling ◼️The difference between technical growth and internal readiness for the next level ◼️How humility, reflection, and learning from others unlock the next phase of progress Real growth does not come from doing more of what already worked, but from being willing to relearn, rebuild, and let go of the identity tied to past achievements. This episode is a reminder that leveling up is less about external strategy and more about who you are willing to become in order to move forward. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share a raw, unscripted talk from a private mastermind where I break down what it actually takes to level up in business and in life. This is not about tactics, funnels, or hacks. It is about the internal shifts, humility, and skill rebuilding required when the old version of you can no longer take you where you want to go. Through personal stories from wrestling, entrepreneurship, faith, and leadership, I explain why growth feels uncomfortable and why that discomfort is often the signal that you are on the right path. Rather than teaching another framework, I’m walking you through the psychological and emotional realities of moving from one level to the next, and why most people stall out when their ego refuses to let go of past success. Key Highlights: ◼️Why every new level of success requires abandoning the skill sets that previously worked ◼️How the Hero’s Journey explains personal growth, plateaus, and the need to leave the “ordinary world” ◼️Why ego and attachment to past wins are often the biggest blockers to scaling ◼️The difference between technical growth and internal readiness for the next level ◼️How humility, reflection, and learning from others unlock the next phase of progress Real growth does not come from doing more of what already worked, but from being willing to relearn, rebuild, and let go of the identity tied to past achievements. This episode is a reminder that leveling up is less about external strategy and more about who you are willing to become in order to move forward. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share a raw, unscripted talk from a private mastermind where I break down what it actually takes to level up in business and in life. This is not about tactics, funnels, or hacks. It is about the internal shifts, humility, and skill rebuilding required when the old version of you can no longer take you where you want to go. Through personal stories from wrestling, entrepreneurship, faith, and leadership, I explain why growth feels uncomfortable and why that discomfort is often the signal that you are on the right path.

Rather than teaching another framework, I’m walking you through the psychological and emotional realities of moving from one level to the next, and why most people stall out when their ego refuses to let go of past success.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why every new level of success requires abandoning the skill sets that previously worked

◼️How the Hero’s Journey explains personal growth, plateaus, and the need to leave the “ordinary world”

◼️Why ego and attachment to past wins are often the biggest blockers to scaling

◼️The difference between technical growth and internal readiness for the next level

◼️How humility, reflection, and learning from others unlock the next phase of progress


Real growth does not come from doing more of what already worked, but from being willing to relearn, rebuild, and let go of the identity tied to past achievements. This episode is a reminder that leveling up is less about external strategy and more about who you are willing to become in order to move forward.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 2098 Rich Schefren Reveals the AI System That Eliminates Self-Sabotage and Accelerates Growth | #Success - Ep. 99 Most people are using AI as a faster tool for writing copy, building funnels, or answering questions. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, Rich Schefren shows why that barely scratches the surface. What he shares is not about productivity hacks or clever prompts. It is about building an AI that knows you so deeply it can help you overcome lifelong patterns, blind spots, and self-sabotage in ways no coach, mastermind, or system ever could. Rich walks through how feeding his entire life into AI fundamentally changed his business, health, relationships, and sense of purpose. This conversation goes far beyond marketing or technology. It is about identity, execution, and becoming the highest version of yourself faster than you thought possible. Rich explains how an AI that understands your psychology, habits, fears, and strengths can challenge your thinking, expand your vision, and execute alongside you every day. If you feel stuck despite knowing what to do, this episode will completely change how you think about growth, discipline, and personal evolution. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most people fail with AI because it knows everything except the one thing that matters most: you ◼️How uploading journals, business archives, health data, and conversations creates an AI that understands you better than you understand yourself ◼️The four-phase Zenith Mind OS framework: AI learns you, challenges you, expands your vision, and executes with you ◼️How AI identifies self-sabotage loops, limiting beliefs, and hidden triggers you may have carried for decades ◼️Why this approach can outperform traditional coaching, therapy, and masterminds combined ◼️How Rich used this system to dramatically improve his health, profitability, clarity, and daily execution Rich’s presentation is a glimpse into a future where personal growth and execution are no longer limited by willpower or discipline. Instead of forcing yourself to become someone else, he shows how to design your life and business around who you truly are. This episode is not just about AI. It is about leverage, self-awareness, and unlocking momentum in every area of your life. If you are ready to stop fighting yourself and start working with a system that understands you at a deep level, this conversation will open your eyes to what is now possible. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most people are using AI as a faster tool for writing copy, building funnels, or answering questions. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, Rich Schefren shows why that barely scratches the surface. What he shares is not about productivity hacks or clever prompts. It is about building an AI that knows you so deeply it can help you overcome lifelong patterns, blind spots, and self-sabotage in ways no coach, mastermind, or system ever could. Rich walks through how feeding his entire life into AI fundamentally changed his business, health, relationships, and sense of purpose. This conversation goes far beyond marketing or technology. It is about identity, execution, and becoming the highest version of yourself faster than you thought possible. Rich explains how an AI that understands your psychology, habits, fears, and strengths can challenge your thinking, expand your vision, and execute alongside you every day. If you feel stuck despite knowing what to do, this episode will completely change how you think about growth, discipline, and personal evolution. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most people fail with AI because it knows everything except the one thing that matters most: you ◼️How uploading journals, business archives, health data, and conversations creates an AI that understands you better than you understand yourself ◼️The four-phase Zenith Mind OS framework: AI learns you, challenges you, expands your vision, and executes with you ◼️How AI identifies self-sabotage loops, limiting beliefs, and hidden triggers you may have carried for decades ◼️Why this approach can outperform traditional coaching, therapy, and masterminds combined ◼️How Rich used this system to dramatically improve his health, profitability, clarity, and daily execution Rich’s presentation is a glimpse into a future where personal growth and execution are no longer limited by willpower or discipline. Instead of forcing yourself to become someone else, he shows how to design your life and business around who you truly are. This episode is not just about AI. It is about leverage, self-awareness, and unlocking momentum in every area of your life. If you are ready to stop fighting yourself and start working with a system that understands you at a deep level, this conversation will open your eyes to what is now possible. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most people are using AI as a faster tool for writing copy, building funnels, or answering questions. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, Rich Schefren shows why that barely scratches the surface. What he shares is not about productivity hacks or clever prompts. It is about building an AI that knows you so deeply it can help you overcome lifelong patterns, blind spots, and self-sabotage in ways no coach, mastermind, or system ever could. Rich walks through how feeding his entire life into AI fundamentally changed his business, health, relationships, and sense of purpose.

This conversation goes far beyond marketing or technology. It is about identity, execution, and becoming the highest version of yourself faster than you thought possible. Rich explains how an AI that understands your psychology, habits, fears, and strengths can challenge your thinking, expand your vision, and execute alongside you every day. If you feel stuck despite knowing what to do, this episode will completely change how you think about growth, discipline, and personal evolution.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why most people fail with AI because it knows everything except the one thing that matters most: you

◼️How uploading journals, business archives, health data, and conversations creates an AI that understands you better than you understand yourself

◼️The four-phase Zenith Mind OS framework: AI learns you, challenges you, expands your vision, and executes with you

◼️How AI identifies self-sabotage loops, limiting beliefs, and hidden triggers you may have carried for decades

◼️Why this approach can outperform traditional coaching, therapy, and masterminds combined

◼️How Rich used this system to dramatically improve his health, profitability, clarity, and daily execution


Rich’s presentation is a glimpse into a future where personal growth and execution are no longer limited by willpower or discipline. Instead of forcing yourself to become someone else, he shows how to design your life and business around who you truly are. This episode is not just about AI. It is about leverage, self-awareness, and unlocking momentum in every area of your life. If you are ready to stop fighting yourself and start working with a system that understands you at a deep level, this conversation will open your eyes to what is now possible.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 2339 Doug Boughton: The Secret to Building Insanely Profitable Affiliate Marketing Ecosystems | #Marketing - Ep. 98 Most entrepreneurs think affiliate marketing is a side hustle or a distraction from building real offers. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, Doug Boughton completely reframes that belief. What he shares is not about quick commissions or one-off launches. It is about building an affiliate ecosystem that compounds over time, increases authority, shortens sales cycles, and quietly feeds your own offers without pulling you away from your current business. Doug walks through how affiliate marketing became his most freeing income stream and why it now sits at the center of his long-term business and legacy strategy. If you sell anything online, whether you are just getting started or already have your own offers, this episode will change how you think about traffic, collaborations, and growth. Doug breaks down the exact ways affiliate marketing can amplify everything you are already doing instead of competing with it. Key Highlights: ◼️Why affiliate marketing works best when it enhances your core offers instead of replacing them ◼️How to use other people’s launches and attention waves to grow your audience, authority, and credibility ◼️The three ways affiliate ecosystems work together: other people’s offers selling yours, your offers selling theirs, and customers becoming promoters ◼️How email segmentation and integration marketing turn non-buyers into long-term customers ◼️The strategy and platform behind building an army of affiliates promoting your business ◼️Why longevity, alignment, and recurring value matter more than short-term affiliate payouts Doug’s presentation is a masterclass in leverage, and long-term thinking. Instead of chasing ‘quick’ tactics, he shows how doing the right things consistently builds momentum that pays off for years. He’s showing you how affiliate marketing is all about creating win-win relationships, serving your audience better, and letting your business grow through trust and collaboration. If you want a model that creates freedom while strengthening your core offers, this episode lays out the path clearly. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most entrepreneurs think affiliate marketing is a side hustle or a distraction from building real offers. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, Doug Boughton completely reframes that belief. What he shares is not about quick commissions or one-off launches. It is about building an affiliate ecosystem that compounds over time, increases authority, shortens sales cycles, and quietly feeds your own offers without pulling you away from your current business. Doug walks through how affiliate marketing became his most freeing income stream and why it now sits at the center of his long-term business and legacy strategy. If you sell anything online, whether you are just getting started or already have your own offers, this episode will change how you think about traffic, collaborations, and growth. Doug breaks down the exact ways affiliate marketing can amplify everything you are already doing instead of competing with it. Key Highlights: ◼️Why affiliate marketing works best when it enhances your core offers instead of replacing them ◼️How to use other people’s launches and attention waves to grow your audience, authority, and credibility ◼️The three ways affiliate ecosystems work together: other people’s offers selling yours, your offers selling theirs, and customers becoming promoters ◼️How email segmentation and integration marketing turn non-buyers into long-term customers ◼️The strategy and platform behind building an army of affiliates promoting your business ◼️Why longevity, alignment, and recurring value matter more than short-term affiliate payouts Doug’s presentation is a masterclass in leverage, and long-term thinking. Instead of chasing ‘quick’ tactics, he shows how doing the right things consistently builds momentum that pays off for years. He’s showing you how affiliate marketing is all about creating win-win relationships, serving your audience better, and letting your business grow through trust and collaboration. If you want a model that creates freedom while strengthening your core offers, this episode lays out the path clearly. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most entrepreneurs think affiliate marketing is a side hustle or a distraction from building real offers. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, Doug Boughton completely reframes that belief. What he shares is not about quick commissions or one-off launches. It is about building an affiliate ecosystem that compounds over time, increases authority, shortens sales cycles, and quietly feeds your own offers without pulling you away from your current business. Doug walks through how affiliate marketing became his most freeing income stream and why it now sits at the center of his long-term business and legacy strategy.

If you sell anything online, whether you are just getting started or already have your own offers, this episode will change how you think about traffic, collaborations, and growth. Doug breaks down the exact ways affiliate marketing can amplify everything you are already doing instead of competing with it.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why affiliate marketing works best when it enhances your core offers instead of replacing them

◼️How to use other people’s launches and attention waves to grow your audience, authority, and credibility

◼️The three ways affiliate ecosystems work together: other people’s offers selling yours, your offers selling theirs, and customers becoming promoters

◼️How email segmentation and integration marketing turn non-buyers into long-term customers

◼️The strategy and platform behind building an army of affiliates promoting your business

◼️Why longevity, alignment, and recurring value matter more than short-term affiliate payouts


Doug’s presentation is a masterclass in leverage, and long-term thinking. Instead of chasing ‘quick’ tactics, he shows how doing the right things consistently builds momentum that pays off for years. He’s showing you how affiliate marketing is all about creating win-win relationships, serving your audience better, and letting your business grow through trust and collaboration. If you want a model that creates freedom while strengthening your core offers, this episode lays out the path clearly.

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 2720 McCall Jones Teaches The Secret ‘Give a Mouse a Cookie’ Offer Framework | #Sales - Ep. 97 Most entrepreneurs fail at the exact moment they should be making the most money. They teach, they inspire, they deliver value, but when it is time to present the offer, everything falls apart. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of the most powerful Funnel Hacking Live presentations we have ever had. McCall Jones takes the beloved children’s book If You Give a Mouse a Cookie and reveals the hidden structure inside it that makes it the perfect framework for building irresistible offers. Once you see how it works, you will never build your offers the same way again. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most entrepreneurs unintentionally sabotage their offers by bundling random products together instead of solving a customer’s sequential problems ◼️The Mouse a Cookie method for creating an offer path that moves someone from their pain to their desired result ◼️How to build an offer even when you cannot personally solve every problem by partnering strategically instead of ignoring what your customers need ◼️The ‘Timeline-ify’ technique for presenting your offer in a way that keeps customers emotionally in motion instead of overwhelmed ◼️The Charisma Hacking framework for communicating pain and authority in the style that matches who you naturally are, so your pitch feels authentic and converts higher McCall’s presentation is a reminder that selling is not about hype or pressure. It is about understanding the real problems someone faces and guiding them from one solved step to the next until they reach their goal.  When you use the Mouse a Cookie method, timeline your offer the right way, and communicate with the charisma style that fits you, your offer becomes the clear path to transformation instead of a collection of items. This is why her students win, and it is why this framework has become one of the most important updates to how I teach offers today! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most entrepreneurs fail at the exact moment they should be making the most money. They teach, they inspire, they deliver value, but when it is time to present the offer, everything falls apart. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of the most powerful Funnel Hacking Live presentations we have ever had. McCall Jones takes the beloved children’s book If You Give a Mouse a Cookie and reveals the hidden structure inside it that makes it the perfect framework for building irresistible offers. Once you see how it works, you will never build your offers the same way again. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most entrepreneurs unintentionally sabotage their offers by bundling random products together instead of solving a customer’s sequential problems ◼️The Mouse a Cookie method for creating an offer path that moves someone from their pain to their desired result ◼️How to build an offer even when you cannot personally solve every problem by partnering strategically instead of ignoring what your customers need ◼️The ‘Timeline-ify’ technique for presenting your offer in a way that keeps customers emotionally in motion instead of overwhelmed ◼️The Charisma Hacking framework for communicating pain and authority in the style that matches who you naturally are, so your pitch feels authentic and converts higher McCall’s presentation is a reminder that selling is not about hype or pressure. It is about understanding the real problems someone faces and guiding them from one solved step to the next until they reach their goal.  When you use the Mouse a Cookie method, timeline your offer the right way, and communicate with the charisma style that fits you, your offer becomes the clear path to transformation instead of a collection of items. This is why her students win, and it is why this framework has become one of the most important updates to how I teach offers today! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most entrepreneurs fail at the exact moment they should be making the most money. They teach, they inspire, they deliver value, but when it is time to present the offer, everything falls apart. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of the most powerful Funnel Hacking Live presentations we have ever had. McCall Jones takes the beloved children’s book If You Give a Mouse a Cookie and reveals the hidden structure inside it that makes it the perfect framework for building irresistible offers. Once you see how it works, you will never build your offers the same way again.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why most entrepreneurs unintentionally sabotage their offers by bundling random products together instead of solving a customer’s sequential problems

◼️The Mouse a Cookie method for creating an offer path that moves someone from their pain to their desired result

◼️How to build an offer even when you cannot personally solve every problem by partnering strategically instead of ignoring what your customers need

◼️The ‘Timeline-ify’ technique for presenting your offer in a way that keeps customers emotionally in motion instead of overwhelmed

◼️The Charisma Hacking framework for communicating pain and authority in the style that matches who you naturally are, so your pitch feels authentic and converts higher


McCall’s presentation is a reminder that selling is not about hype or pressure. It is about understanding the real problems someone faces and guiding them from one solved step to the next until they reach their goal. 

When you use the Mouse a Cookie method, timeline your offer the right way, and communicate with the charisma style that fits you, your offer becomes the clear path to transformation instead of a collection of items. This is why her students win, and it is why this framework has become one of the most important updates to how I teach offers today!

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 2094 From Door Knocking to Multi-Million Exits: David Royce on Focus and Obsession | #Success - Ep. 96 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show I sat down with David Royce because his story is completely different from the typical online marketing path. He did not build funnels first or chase trends. He built real businesses in the real world, scaled them with systems, sold them, and then did it again… And again… And again. What fascinated me most was not just the money or the exits, but how intentional he was about learning, focus, culture, and fulfillment along the way. David started knocking doors with zero sales and turned himself into a top performer by obsessively studying sales. That obsession carried him from managing college sales teams to building and selling multiple pest control companies across thousands of cities. In this conversation, we dig into what actually made that possible, the unsexy work most entrepreneurs avoid, and why success without systems eventually collapses. Key Highlights: ◼️How David went from early rejection to elite performance by studying sales daily and treating selling like a craft you train for ◼️Why systems are the real secret to scaling and the simple test he uses to know if a business can grow without the owner ◼️The mindset shift from manager to operator and how he prioritizes tasks so the important work does not get buried under urgent noise ◼️How he built culture intentionally, protected core values while scaling fast, and used outside influences to shape how he led teams ◼️Why his greatest advantage is focus and obsession, how he trains it, and the books he credits for sharpening his thinking across sales, systems, and leadership David also opens up about happiness, obsession, and why the goalpost always moves if fulfillment is tied only to money. We talk about work seasons, choosing the right partner, and why knowing when to step away can be just as important as knowing how to scale. This is a conversation about building something real, learning deeply, and designing a life you actually want to live. ◼️You can find David on LinkedIn if you want to follow what he does next. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show I sat down with David Royce because his story is completely different from the typical online marketing path. He did not build funnels first or chase trends. He built real businesses in the real world, scaled them with systems, sold them, and then did it again… And again… And again. What fascinated me most was not just the money or the exits, but how intentional he was about learning, focus, culture, and fulfillment along the way. David started knocking doors with zero sales and turned himself into a top performer by obsessively studying sales. That obsession carried him from managing college sales teams to building and selling multiple pest control companies across thousands of cities. In this conversation, we dig into what actually made that possible, the unsexy work most entrepreneurs avoid, and why success without systems eventually collapses. Key Highlights: ◼️How David went from early rejection to elite performance by studying sales daily and treating selling like a craft you train for ◼️Why systems are the real secret to scaling and the simple test he uses to know if a business can grow without the owner ◼️The mindset shift from manager to operator and how he prioritizes tasks so the important work does not get buried under urgent noise ◼️How he built culture intentionally, protected core values while scaling fast, and used outside influences to shape how he led teams ◼️Why his greatest advantage is focus and obsession, how he trains it, and the books he credits for sharpening his thinking across sales, systems, and leadership David also opens up about happiness, obsession, and why the goalpost always moves if fulfillment is tied only to money. We talk about work seasons, choosing the right partner, and why knowing when to step away can be just as important as knowing how to scale. This is a conversation about building something real, learning deeply, and designing a life you actually want to live. ◼️You can find David on LinkedIn if you want to follow what he does next. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show I sat down with David Royce because his story is completely different from the typical online marketing path. He did not build funnels first or chase trends. He built real businesses in the real world, scaled them with systems, sold them, and then did it again… And again… And again. What fascinated me most was not just the money or the exits, but how intentional he was about learning, focus, culture, and fulfillment along the way.

David started knocking doors with zero sales and turned himself into a top performer by obsessively studying sales. That obsession carried him from managing college sales teams to building and selling multiple pest control companies across thousands of cities. In this conversation, we dig into what actually made that possible, the unsexy work most entrepreneurs avoid, and why success without systems eventually collapses.


Key Highlights:

◼️How David went from early rejection to elite performance by studying sales daily and treating selling like a craft you train for

◼️Why systems are the real secret to scaling and the simple test he uses to know if a business can grow without the owner

◼️The mindset shift from manager to operator and how he prioritizes tasks so the important work does not get buried under urgent noise

◼️How he built culture intentionally, protected core values while scaling fast, and used outside influences to shape how he led teams

◼️Why his greatest advantage is focus and obsession, how he trains it, and the books he credits for sharpening his thinking across sales, systems, and leadership


David also opens up about happiness, obsession, and why the goalpost always moves if fulfillment is tied only to money. We talk about work seasons, choosing the right partner, and why knowing when to step away can be just as important as knowing how to scale. This is a conversation about building something real, learning deeply, and designing a life you actually want to live.

◼️You can find David on LinkedIn if you want to follow what he does next.

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 3620 Finding Your Voice as a Speaker with Richmond Dinh | #Success - Ep. 95 Most people think speaking belongs to the naturally gifted. But the truth is every great speaker starts scared, awkward, and unsure. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share the behind the scenes story of discovering Richmond Dinh’s Next Top Speaker competition, why I fell in love with it immediately, and how a simple idea has grown into a movement that is transforming brand new speakers into confident leaders. You will hear the presentation I gave inside the challenge and the deeper message behind it. If you have a calling to speak but doubt your abilities, this episode shows you what is waiting for you on the other side of that fear. Key Highlights: ◼️How discovering the Next Top Speaker competition reignited my belief in the power of helping new speakers develop their voice. ◼️Why my earliest speaking attempts were awkward, painful, and embarrassing, and why that struggle became the foundation for everything that came later. ◼️The moment I realized speaking was the only way to truly move people and create life changing impact at scale. ◼️How finding your authentic voice matters more than being polished, perfect, or traditionally talented. ◼️Why the greatest fulfillment comes not from your own wins but from watching someone you helped raise their hand in victory. Becoming a powerful speaker is not a gift. It is a calling you grow into through practice, courage, and service. If you feel that pull, lean into it. Your voice has a purpose, and there are people waiting to hear it. If you want to step into the next challenge and experience this transformation for yourself, go to https://nexttopspeaker.com and register for the upcoming competition. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most people think speaking belongs to the naturally gifted. But the truth is every great speaker starts scared, awkward, and unsure. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share the behind the scenes story of discovering Richmond Dinh’s Next Top Speaker competition, why I fell in love with it immediately, and how a simple idea has grown into a movement that is transforming brand new speakers into confident leaders. You will hear the presentation I gave inside the challenge and the deeper message behind it. If you have a calling to speak but doubt your abilities, this episode shows you what is waiting for you on the other side of that fear. Key Highlights: ◼️How discovering the Next Top Speaker competition reignited my belief in the power of helping new speakers develop their voice. ◼️Why my earliest speaking attempts were awkward, painful, and embarrassing, and why that struggle became the foundation for everything that came later. ◼️The moment I realized speaking was the only way to truly move people and create life changing impact at scale. ◼️How finding your authentic voice matters more than being polished, perfect, or traditionally talented. ◼️Why the greatest fulfillment comes not from your own wins but from watching someone you helped raise their hand in victory. Becoming a powerful speaker is not a gift. It is a calling you grow into through practice, courage, and service. If you feel that pull, lean into it. Your voice has a purpose, and there are people waiting to hear it. If you want to step into the next challenge and experience this transformation for yourself, go to https://nexttopspeaker.com and register for the upcoming competition. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most people think speaking belongs to the naturally gifted. But the truth is every great speaker starts scared, awkward, and unsure. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share the behind the scenes story of discovering Richmond Dinh’s Next Top Speaker competition, why I fell in love with it immediately, and how a simple idea has grown into a movement that is transforming brand new speakers into confident leaders. You will hear the presentation I gave inside the challenge and the deeper message behind it. If you have a calling to speak but doubt your abilities, this episode shows you what is waiting for you on the other side of that fear.


Key Highlights:

◼️How discovering the Next Top Speaker competition reignited my belief in the power of helping new speakers develop their voice.

◼️Why my earliest speaking attempts were awkward, painful, and embarrassing, and why that struggle became the foundation for everything that came later.

◼️The moment I realized speaking was the only way to truly move people and create life changing impact at scale.

◼️How finding your authentic voice matters more than being polished, perfect, or traditionally talented.

◼️Why the greatest fulfillment comes not from your own wins but from watching someone you helped raise their hand in victory.


Becoming a powerful speaker is not a gift. It is a calling you grow into through practice, courage, and service. If you feel that pull, lean into it. Your voice has a purpose, and there are people waiting to hear it. If you want to step into the next challenge and experience this transformation for yourself, go to https://nexttopspeaker.com and register for the upcoming competition.

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 1309 The Formula For Building a Global Expert Business with Victor Damasio | #Success - Ep. 94 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my friend Victor Damasio, one of Brazil’s top expert entrepreneurs, to unpack how he built a multi-million dollar business by doing the right things for a long time and serving people deeply before chasing scale.  Victor is now rebuilding in the United States and Spanish speaking markets, and what makes his story so powerful is that his process works at every level. Whether he had no audience, a small group of early believers, or a huge following in Brazil, he grew by creating real conversations, helping people get results, and earning loyalty through service. If you want to know how to build something meaningful without shortcuts, this episode is a masterclass. Key Highlights: ◼️How Victor built his early business by doing the right thing consistently until results compounded ◼️The simple process he still uses today: start conversations, understand the person, help them solve something small, then guide them to the right offer ◼️Why he has clients who have stayed with him for more than a decade and how long term service became his most powerful growth engine ◼️His formula for building momentum in a new language and new country by applying the same relationship based approach that worked in Brazil Victor’s story shows that the most sustainable expert businesses are built on service, patience, and consistent action. His method works in any market because it is human. You begin with a real conversation, create a win, build trust, and only then extend an offer that truly helps the person in front of you.  These principles helped him build a multi-year mastermind in Brazil and now guide him as he starts again in English and Spanish. If you want to follow his journey or connect with him directly, you can find him on Instagram at @victordamasio and you’ll hear from him PERSONALLY! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my friend Victor Damasio, one of Brazil’s top expert entrepreneurs, to unpack how he built a multi-million dollar business by doing the right things for a long time and serving people deeply before chasing scale.  Victor is now rebuilding in the United States and Spanish speaking markets, and what makes his story so powerful is that his process works at every level. Whether he had no audience, a small group of early believers, or a huge following in Brazil, he grew by creating real conversations, helping people get results, and earning loyalty through service. If you want to know how to build something meaningful without shortcuts, this episode is a masterclass. Key Highlights: ◼️How Victor built his early business by doing the right thing consistently until results compounded ◼️The simple process he still uses today: start conversations, understand the person, help them solve something small, then guide them to the right offer ◼️Why he has clients who have stayed with him for more than a decade and how long term service became his most powerful growth engine ◼️His formula for building momentum in a new language and new country by applying the same relationship based approach that worked in Brazil Victor’s story shows that the most sustainable expert businesses are built on service, patience, and consistent action. His method works in any market because it is human. You begin with a real conversation, create a win, build trust, and only then extend an offer that truly helps the person in front of you.  These principles helped him build a multi-year mastermind in Brazil and now guide him as he starts again in English and Spanish. If you want to follow his journey or connect with him directly, you can find him on Instagram at @victordamasio and you’ll hear from him PERSONALLY! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my friend Victor Damasio, one of Brazil’s top expert entrepreneurs, to unpack how he built a multi-million dollar business by doing the right things for a long time and serving people deeply before chasing scale. 

Victor is now rebuilding in the United States and Spanish speaking markets, and what makes his story so powerful is that his process works at every level. Whether he had no audience, a small group of early believers, or a huge following in Brazil, he grew by creating real conversations, helping people get results, and earning loyalty through service. If you want to know how to build something meaningful without shortcuts, this episode is a masterclass.


Key Highlights:

◼️How Victor built his early business by doing the right thing consistently until results compounded

◼️The simple process he still uses today: start conversations, understand the person, help them solve something small, then guide them to the right offer

◼️Why he has clients who have stayed with him for more than a decade and how long term service became his most powerful growth engine

◼️His formula for building momentum in a new language and new country by applying the same relationship based approach that worked in Brazil


Victor’s story shows that the most sustainable expert businesses are built on service, patience, and consistent action. His method works in any market because it is human. You begin with a real conversation, create a win, build trust, and only then extend an offer that truly helps the person in front of you. 

These principles helped him build a multi-year mastermind in Brazil and now guide him as he starts again in English and Spanish. If you want to follow his journey or connect with him directly, you can find him on Instagram at @victordamasio and you’ll hear from him PERSONALLY!

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 2026 The Hero With a Thousand Faces: Joseph Campbell’s Framework on Storytelling | #Marketing - Ep. 93 Most entrepreneurs think storytelling is about simply entertaining. But the stories that move markets, build movements, and create generational brands all follow a deeper pattern that is wired into every human across every culture in history.  In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show we talk about the Hero’s Journey! I open up Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With a Thousand Faces and show you why this framework has shaped your favorite movies, your personal development, your beliefs, and even the way ClickFunnels grew to a billion dollars in sales. If you want your message to resonate at a primal level and persuade people without feeling pushy, this is the story structure your business has been missing. Key Highlights: ◼️How Joseph Campbell discovered that every enduring story across time and culture follows the same pattern. ◼️Why George Lucas built the first Star Wars movie using this exact framework and how thousands of Hollywood films now follow it. ◼️The core steps of the Hero’s Journey and why audiences subconsciously connect to it in movies, books, and real life. ◼️How applying this structure transformed my webinars, funnels, events, and ultimately the growth of the ClickFunnels movement. ◼️The three versions of the Hero’s Journey you can study and use: Campbell’s original, Christopher Vogler’s Hollywood version, and my Expert Secrets version. The Hero’s Journey isn’t just some ‘fun’ thing to talk about... It is the blueprint behind every story that has ever moved a crowd, converted an audience, or transformed a customer. Once you understand it, you start seeing it everywhere and you will know exactly how to weave it into your own marketing, sales presentations, and content. If you want my notes with all three frameworks side by side, you can find them here: ◼️⁠⁠https://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠ ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most entrepreneurs think storytelling is about simply entertaining. But the stories that move markets, build movements, and create generational brands all follow a deeper pattern that is wired into every human across every culture in history.  In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show we talk about the Hero’s Journey! I open up Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With a Thousand Faces and show you why this framework has shaped your favorite movies, your personal development, your beliefs, and even the way ClickFunnels grew to a billion dollars in sales. If you want your message to resonate at a primal level and persuade people without feeling pushy, this is the story structure your business has been missing. Key Highlights: ◼️How Joseph Campbell discovered that every enduring story across time and culture follows the same pattern. ◼️Why George Lucas built the first Star Wars movie using this exact framework and how thousands of Hollywood films now follow it. ◼️The core steps of the Hero’s Journey and why audiences subconsciously connect to it in movies, books, and real life. ◼️How applying this structure transformed my webinars, funnels, events, and ultimately the growth of the ClickFunnels movement. ◼️The three versions of the Hero’s Journey you can study and use: Campbell’s original, Christopher Vogler’s Hollywood version, and my Expert Secrets version. The Hero’s Journey isn’t just some ‘fun’ thing to talk about... It is the blueprint behind every story that has ever moved a crowd, converted an audience, or transformed a customer. Once you understand it, you start seeing it everywhere and you will know exactly how to weave it into your own marketing, sales presentations, and content. If you want my notes with all three frameworks side by side, you can find them here: ◼️⁠⁠https://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠ ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most entrepreneurs think storytelling is about simply entertaining. But the stories that move markets, build movements, and create generational brands all follow a deeper pattern that is wired into every human across every culture in history. 

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show we talk about the Hero’s Journey! I open up Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With a Thousand Faces and show you why this framework has shaped your favorite movies, your personal development, your beliefs, and even the way ClickFunnels grew to a billion dollars in sales. If you want your message to resonate at a primal level and persuade people without feeling pushy, this is the story structure your business has been missing.


Key Highlights:

◼️How Joseph Campbell discovered that every enduring story across time and culture follows the same pattern.

◼️Why George Lucas built the first Star Wars movie using this exact framework and how thousands of Hollywood films now follow it.

◼️The core steps of the Hero’s Journey and why audiences subconsciously connect to it in movies, books, and real life.

◼️How applying this structure transformed my webinars, funnels, events, and ultimately the growth of the ClickFunnels movement.

◼️The three versions of the Hero’s Journey you can study and use: Campbell’s original, Christopher Vogler’s Hollywood version, and my Expert Secrets version.


The Hero’s Journey isn’t just some ‘fun’ thing to talk about... It is the blueprint behind every story that has ever moved a crowd, converted an audience, or transformed a customer. Once you understand it, you start seeing it everywhere and you will know exactly how to weave it into your own marketing, sales presentations, and content. If you want my notes with all three frameworks side by side, you can find them here: ◼️⁠⁠https://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 752 The Oren Klaff Method for Conversation Control and High Stakes Pitching | #Success - Ep. 92 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Oren Klaff, author of Pitch Anything and one of the most fascinating minds in the world of high stakes dealmaking.  Before we even got into the frameworks, Oren told the wild story of how he bought and built a full scale Apollo spacecraft replica for his office and why it instantly changed the way people engage with him. From there, we dug into the psychology that drives billion dollar negotiations, why most entrepreneurs lose deals before they ever begin, and how status, power, and certainty shape every meaningful business interaction.  If you have ever felt intimidated pitching someone with more money, more experience, or more authority, this conversation is going to flip the way you see negotiations forever. Key Highlights: ◼️Why status determines everything in a negotiation and why lowering the other side’s status is often more effective than raising your own ◼️The small behaviors that instantly reveal whether someone is serious and how to call them out without losing the deal ◼️The archetypes you will face in every big deal including the final boss, the consigliere, the analyst, and the law firm ◼️How to raise stakes so decisions happen now instead of drifting into endless follow up ◼️The simple closing question Oren uses that bypasses pressure and gets people to reveal what they actually want This conversation is a masterclass in understanding power, status, and human behavior inside real negotiations. Oren is operating in a world where he is pitching billion dollar funds, founders, and private equity groups, yet every principle applies to anyone selling, pitching, or persuading at any level.  Once you see how people behave when they feel powerful and how quickly everything shifts when you level the status field, you will never approach a deal the same way again. If you want to learn more from Oren, you can find his work at https://orenklaff.com. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 01 Dec 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Oren Klaff, author of Pitch Anything and one of the most fascinating minds in the world of high stakes dealmaking.  Before we even got into the frameworks, Oren told the wild story of how he bought and built a full scale Apollo spacecraft replica for his office and why it instantly changed the way people engage with him. From there, we dug into the psychology that drives billion dollar negotiations, why most entrepreneurs lose deals before they ever begin, and how status, power, and certainty shape every meaningful business interaction.  If you have ever felt intimidated pitching someone with more money, more experience, or more authority, this conversation is going to flip the way you see negotiations forever. Key Highlights: ◼️Why status determines everything in a negotiation and why lowering the other side’s status is often more effective than raising your own ◼️The small behaviors that instantly reveal whether someone is serious and how to call them out without losing the deal ◼️The archetypes you will face in every big deal including the final boss, the consigliere, the analyst, and the law firm ◼️How to raise stakes so decisions happen now instead of drifting into endless follow up ◼️The simple closing question Oren uses that bypasses pressure and gets people to reveal what they actually want This conversation is a masterclass in understanding power, status, and human behavior inside real negotiations. Oren is operating in a world where he is pitching billion dollar funds, founders, and private equity groups, yet every principle applies to anyone selling, pitching, or persuading at any level.  Once you see how people behave when they feel powerful and how quickly everything shifts when you level the status field, you will never approach a deal the same way again. If you want to learn more from Oren, you can find his work at https://orenklaff.com. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Oren Klaff, author of Pitch Anything and one of the most fascinating minds in the world of high stakes dealmaking. 

Before we even got into the frameworks, Oren told the wild story of how he bought and built a full scale Apollo spacecraft replica for his office and why it instantly changed the way people engage with him. From there, we dug into the psychology that drives billion dollar negotiations, why most entrepreneurs lose deals before they ever begin, and how status, power, and certainty shape every meaningful business interaction. 

If you have ever felt intimidated pitching someone with more money, more experience, or more authority, this conversation is going to flip the way you see negotiations forever.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why status determines everything in a negotiation and why lowering the other side’s status is often more effective than raising your own

◼️The small behaviors that instantly reveal whether someone is serious and how to call them out without losing the deal

◼️The archetypes you will face in every big deal including the final boss, the consigliere, the analyst, and the law firm

◼️How to raise stakes so decisions happen now instead of drifting into endless follow up

◼️The simple closing question Oren uses that bypasses pressure and gets people to reveal what they actually want


This conversation is a masterclass in understanding power, status, and human behavior inside real negotiations. Oren is operating in a world where he is pitching billion dollar funds, founders, and private equity groups, yet every principle applies to anyone selling, pitching, or persuading at any level. 

Once you see how people behave when they feel powerful and how quickly everything shifts when you level the status field, you will never approach a deal the same way again. If you want to learn more from Oren, you can find his work at https://orenklaff.com.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2977 Conversation Domination: John Parkes Reveals the Strategies Behind Our $150M in Ad Spend | #Marketing - Ep. 91 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share a powerful session from our recent Two Comma Club meeting where John Parkes, the guy who runs all our ads and has profitably spent more than one hundred and fifty million dollars, breaks down what conversation domination really means. Inside our higher level programs we focus on what is working right now, and John shows exactly how to use Meta Ads to be everywhere your dream customers look so you become the only voice they see. Key Highlights: ◼️What conversation domination actually means and how to show up everywhere your market is paying attention ◼️The DWELL method for building audiences that convert instead of just clicking ◼️How to use engagement, traffic, data, and layered audiences without confusing the algorithm ◼️The “special ops” way to run ads and get sales and leads for pennies on the dollar ◼️Why simple, native videos outperform polished creative and boost show-up rates If you run Meta ads or want to, this session will shift how you think about traffic. Winning with paid ads is not guessing. It is building the right audiences, structuring campaigns so the algorithm learns fast, and putting messages in front of people who already care. John shows the framework that makes campaigns cheaper, smarter, and more predictable. Take notes, refine your targeting, and start applying these principles. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share a powerful session from our recent Two Comma Club meeting where John Parkes, the guy who runs all our ads and has profitably spent more than one hundred and fifty million dollars, breaks down what conversation domination really means. Inside our higher level programs we focus on what is working right now, and John shows exactly how to use Meta Ads to be everywhere your dream customers look so you become the only voice they see. Key Highlights: ◼️What conversation domination actually means and how to show up everywhere your market is paying attention ◼️The DWELL method for building audiences that convert instead of just clicking ◼️How to use engagement, traffic, data, and layered audiences without confusing the algorithm ◼️The “special ops” way to run ads and get sales and leads for pennies on the dollar ◼️Why simple, native videos outperform polished creative and boost show-up rates If you run Meta ads or want to, this session will shift how you think about traffic. Winning with paid ads is not guessing. It is building the right audiences, structuring campaigns so the algorithm learns fast, and putting messages in front of people who already care. John shows the framework that makes campaigns cheaper, smarter, and more predictable. Take notes, refine your targeting, and start applying these principles. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share a powerful session from our recent Two Comma Club meeting where John Parkes, the guy who runs all our ads and has profitably spent more than one hundred and fifty million dollars, breaks down what conversation domination really means. Inside our higher level programs we focus on what is working right now, and John shows exactly how to use Meta Ads to be everywhere your dream customers look so you become the only voice they see.


Key Highlights:

◼️What conversation domination actually means and how to show up everywhere your market is paying attention

◼️The DWELL method for building audiences that convert instead of just clicking

◼️How to use engagement, traffic, data, and layered audiences without confusing the algorithm

◼️The “special ops” way to run ads and get sales and leads for pennies on the dollar

◼️Why simple, native videos outperform polished creative and boost show-up rates


If you run Meta ads or want to, this session will shift how you think about traffic. Winning with paid ads is not guessing. It is building the right audiences, structuring campaigns so the algorithm learns fast, and putting messages in front of people who already care. John shows the framework that makes campaigns cheaper, smarter, and more predictable. Take notes, refine your targeting, and start applying these principles.

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3235 Offers Will Change Your Life: The Stories Behind My Biggest Turning Points | #Success - Ep. 90 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of my favorite presentations I ever gave at Myron Golden’s event. The entire event was about offers, so Myron asked me to walk through my personal journey with them. But not just the mechanics of an offer and all the typical stuff… He wanted me to share the real stories… The terrifying moments… And the breakthroughs that happen when you have the courage and determination to put out an offer.  In this episode, you’ll hear the five times in my life when a single offer literally changed everything for me. This one skill saved my business more times than I can count at this point, and has made all of my success possible. If you have ever doubted yourself, felt stuck financially, or wondered how to create momentum when everything feels impossible, this episode will show you what is actually possible when you learn how to build and launch irresistible offers. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the person who makes the most offers always wins, even if some fail! ◼️The Christmas couch story and the first offer that changed everything ◼️How a high ticket idea created under pressure saved payroll and became a five year revenue machine ◼️What happened when every merchant account disappeared overnight and how a one thousand dollar teleseminar offer kept the company alive ◼️The ClickFunnels launch that failed six times before a room of three hundred people triggered a billion dollar breakthrough ◼️The twenty million dollar library vision no bank believed in and the million dollar seat offer that raised fourteen million dollars in Mexico If there is one theme that has repeated itself in my life over the last twenty plus years, it is this: Whenever I hit a wall, whenever I felt out of ideas, whenever I thought everything was about to collapse, the thing that turned everything around was an offer.  I hope this episode gives you the belief and the tools to start putting more offers into the world because you are always one offer away… ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 24 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of my favorite presentations I ever gave at Myron Golden’s event. The entire event was about offers, so Myron asked me to walk through my personal journey with them. But not just the mechanics of an offer and all the typical stuff… He wanted me to share the real stories… The terrifying moments… And the breakthroughs that happen when you have the courage and determination to put out an offer.  In this episode, you’ll hear the five times in my life when a single offer literally changed everything for me. This one skill saved my business more times than I can count at this point, and has made all of my success possible. If you have ever doubted yourself, felt stuck financially, or wondered how to create momentum when everything feels impossible, this episode will show you what is actually possible when you learn how to build and launch irresistible offers. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the person who makes the most offers always wins, even if some fail! ◼️The Christmas couch story and the first offer that changed everything ◼️How a high ticket idea created under pressure saved payroll and became a five year revenue machine ◼️What happened when every merchant account disappeared overnight and how a one thousand dollar teleseminar offer kept the company alive ◼️The ClickFunnels launch that failed six times before a room of three hundred people triggered a billion dollar breakthrough ◼️The twenty million dollar library vision no bank believed in and the million dollar seat offer that raised fourteen million dollars in Mexico If there is one theme that has repeated itself in my life over the last twenty plus years, it is this: Whenever I hit a wall, whenever I felt out of ideas, whenever I thought everything was about to collapse, the thing that turned everything around was an offer.  I hope this episode gives you the belief and the tools to start putting more offers into the world because you are always one offer away… ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of my favorite presentations I ever gave at Myron Golden’s event. The entire event was about offers, so Myron asked me to walk through my personal journey with them. But not just the mechanics of an offer and all the typical stuff… He wanted me to share the real stories… The terrifying moments… And the breakthroughs that happen when you have the courage and determination to put out an offer. 

In this episode, you’ll hear the five times in my life when a single offer literally changed everything for me. This one skill saved my business more times than I can count at this point, and has made all of my success possible. If you have ever doubted yourself, felt stuck financially, or wondered how to create momentum when everything feels impossible, this episode will show you what is actually possible when you learn how to build and launch irresistible offers.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why the person who makes the most offers always wins, even if some fail!

◼️The Christmas couch story and the first offer that changed everything

◼️How a high ticket idea created under pressure saved payroll and became a five year revenue machine

◼️What happened when every merchant account disappeared overnight and how a one thousand dollar teleseminar offer kept the company alive

◼️The ClickFunnels launch that failed six times before a room of three hundred people triggered a billion dollar breakthrough

◼️The twenty million dollar library vision no bank believed in and the million dollar seat offer that raised fourteen million dollars in Mexico


If there is one theme that has repeated itself in my life over the last twenty plus years, it is this: Whenever I hit a wall, whenever I felt out of ideas, whenever I thought everything was about to collapse, the thing that turned everything around was an offer. 

I hope this episode gives you the belief and the tools to start putting more offers into the world because you are always one offer away…

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2174 Jason Friedman’s Customer Retention System For Raving Superfans | #Marketing - Ep. 89 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I brought in one of my secret weapons from Inner Circle and Atlas, Jason Friedman. Jason is the guy I think about when I hear “customer experience” and “retention.” I am obsessed with funnels, traffic, and selling online, but Jason walked into our Mastermind in Paradise and basically said, “Cool… but what happens after they say yes?” What followed was one of the clearest frameworks I’ve ever seen for turning customers into raving recruiters so your revenue grows without buying more clicks. Key Highlights: ◼️Why entrepreneurs stay “addicted to strangers,” and how Jason reframes ROAS as Return On Audience Success so your funnels stop leaking profit. ◼️The theater director who scripted audience reactions on command, and how that principle lets you choreograph customer transformation instead of hoping it happens. ◼️Jason’s Kinetic Customer Formula that ties attitude, behavior, momentum, and friction into a system that drives renewals, ascensions, and referrals. ◼️Simple retention moves you can apply immediately, like accelerating time-to-first-value, creating win streaks, and fixing hidden friction points. ◼️How personalization, gamification, and “unreasonable” small touches create emotional connection and make your programs sticky. ◼️Why the future of online business belongs to entrepreneurs who build back-end funnels that turn current customers into their strongest promoters. If you run funnels, sell courses or coaching, or drive any kind of online sales, this episode will help you make more money from the customers you already have while building something that is AI-proof and future-proof. Listen in, take notes, and then start redesigning your customer journey so your experiences compound long after the initial sale! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I brought in one of my secret weapons from Inner Circle and Atlas, Jason Friedman. Jason is the guy I think about when I hear “customer experience” and “retention.” I am obsessed with funnels, traffic, and selling online, but Jason walked into our Mastermind in Paradise and basically said, “Cool… but what happens after they say yes?” What followed was one of the clearest frameworks I’ve ever seen for turning customers into raving recruiters so your revenue grows without buying more clicks. Key Highlights: ◼️Why entrepreneurs stay “addicted to strangers,” and how Jason reframes ROAS as Return On Audience Success so your funnels stop leaking profit. ◼️The theater director who scripted audience reactions on command, and how that principle lets you choreograph customer transformation instead of hoping it happens. ◼️Jason’s Kinetic Customer Formula that ties attitude, behavior, momentum, and friction into a system that drives renewals, ascensions, and referrals. ◼️Simple retention moves you can apply immediately, like accelerating time-to-first-value, creating win streaks, and fixing hidden friction points. ◼️How personalization, gamification, and “unreasonable” small touches create emotional connection and make your programs sticky. ◼️Why the future of online business belongs to entrepreneurs who build back-end funnels that turn current customers into their strongest promoters. If you run funnels, sell courses or coaching, or drive any kind of online sales, this episode will help you make more money from the customers you already have while building something that is AI-proof and future-proof. Listen in, take notes, and then start redesigning your customer journey so your experiences compound long after the initial sale! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I brought in one of my secret weapons from Inner Circle and Atlas, Jason Friedman. Jason is the guy I think about when I hear “customer experience” and “retention.” I am obsessed with funnels, traffic, and selling online, but Jason walked into our Mastermind in Paradise and basically said, “Cool… but what happens after they say yes?” What followed was one of the clearest frameworks I’ve ever seen for turning customers into raving recruiters so your revenue grows without buying more clicks.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why entrepreneurs stay “addicted to strangers,” and how Jason reframes ROAS as Return On Audience Success so your funnels stop leaking profit.

◼️The theater director who scripted audience reactions on command, and how that principle lets you choreograph customer transformation instead of hoping it happens.

◼️Jason’s Kinetic Customer Formula that ties attitude, behavior, momentum, and friction into a system that drives renewals, ascensions, and referrals.

◼️Simple retention moves you can apply immediately, like accelerating time-to-first-value, creating win streaks, and fixing hidden friction points.

◼️How personalization, gamification, and “unreasonable” small touches create emotional connection and make your programs sticky.

◼️Why the future of online business belongs to entrepreneurs who build back-end funnels that turn current customers into their strongest promoters.


If you run funnels, sell courses or coaching, or drive any kind of online sales, this episode will help you make more money from the customers you already have while building something that is AI-proof and future-proof. Listen in, take notes, and then start redesigning your customer journey so your experiences compound long after the initial sale!

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠

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]]> 1225 The Art of Public Speaking by Dale Carnegie: How to Speak So People Listen | #Success - Ep. 88 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re talking public speaking… Something that’s second only to death on people’s list of things that terrify them! Haha!  Before I ever dreamed of stepping on a stage, I was just an internet ‘nerd’ trying to make money online. In this episode, I share the story of how I first discovered the art of public speaking, why it terrified me, and the moment I saw someone speak with so much conviction that it changed my entire life trajectory.  I also dive into the original version of The Art of Public Speaking by the real Dale Carnegie, why this rare edition matters, and the single biggest lesson it teaches about becoming a powerful communicator. If you have a message, a product, or a mission you believe in, this episode will shift the way you think about sharing it. Key Highlights: ◼️The day I watched speakers make 60k and 100k from stage and realized that speaking to sell was a real skill ◼️How I overcame my fear of public speaking by learning persuasion first, not performance ◼️The emotional story of a speaker whose message reached me at exactly the moment I needed it ◼️The truth I’ve learned watching 250 plus Funnel Hacking Live speakers and why passion always beats technique ◼️What the original Dale Carnegie taught about conviction, belief, and why loving your message matters more than perfect delivery The power of public speaking isn’t about flawless articulation. It is about falling in love with what you are sharing so deeply that people feel it when you talk. That was true for me when I started talking about funnels, and it is still true for me today as I study the roots of great communication. If you’re looking to improve on your public speaking… This episode (and book!) is for you! ◼️⁠https://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠ ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re talking public speaking… Something that’s second only to death on people’s list of things that terrify them! Haha!  Before I ever dreamed of stepping on a stage, I was just an internet ‘nerd’ trying to make money online. In this episode, I share the story of how I first discovered the art of public speaking, why it terrified me, and the moment I saw someone speak with so much conviction that it changed my entire life trajectory.  I also dive into the original version of The Art of Public Speaking by the real Dale Carnegie, why this rare edition matters, and the single biggest lesson it teaches about becoming a powerful communicator. If you have a message, a product, or a mission you believe in, this episode will shift the way you think about sharing it. Key Highlights: ◼️The day I watched speakers make 60k and 100k from stage and realized that speaking to sell was a real skill ◼️How I overcame my fear of public speaking by learning persuasion first, not performance ◼️The emotional story of a speaker whose message reached me at exactly the moment I needed it ◼️The truth I’ve learned watching 250 plus Funnel Hacking Live speakers and why passion always beats technique ◼️What the original Dale Carnegie taught about conviction, belief, and why loving your message matters more than perfect delivery The power of public speaking isn’t about flawless articulation. It is about falling in love with what you are sharing so deeply that people feel it when you talk. That was true for me when I started talking about funnels, and it is still true for me today as I study the roots of great communication. If you’re looking to improve on your public speaking… This episode (and book!) is for you! ◼️⁠https://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠ ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re talking public speaking… Something that’s second only to death on people’s list of things that terrify them! Haha! 

Before I ever dreamed of stepping on a stage, I was just an internet ‘nerd’ trying to make money online. In this episode, I share the story of how I first discovered the art of public speaking, why it terrified me, and the moment I saw someone speak with so much conviction that it changed my entire life trajectory. 

I also dive into the original version of The Art of Public Speaking by the real Dale Carnegie, why this rare edition matters, and the single biggest lesson it teaches about becoming a powerful communicator. If you have a message, a product, or a mission you believe in, this episode will shift the way you think about sharing it.


Key Highlights:

◼️The day I watched speakers make 60k and 100k from stage and realized that speaking to sell was a real skill

◼️How I overcame my fear of public speaking by learning persuasion first, not performance

◼️The emotional story of a speaker whose message reached me at exactly the moment I needed it

◼️The truth I’ve learned watching 250 plus Funnel Hacking Live speakers and why passion always beats technique

◼️What the original Dale Carnegie taught about conviction, belief, and why loving your message matters more than perfect delivery


The power of public speaking isn’t about flawless articulation. It is about falling in love with what you are sharing so deeply that people feel it when you talk. That was true for me when I started talking about funnels, and it is still true for me today as I study the roots of great communication. If you’re looking to improve on your public speaking… This episode (and book!) is for you!

◼️⁠https://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 721 The Spy Quiz That Drove Millions of Leads with Andrew Bustamante | #Marketing - Ep. 87 I kept seeing this guy everywhere online. Then I opened my Instagram DMs and found a message from 2021: “I’m the first ex-CIA officer to launch an information product… everything I’ve learned came from you.” A year later he went viral using the exact earned-media playbook from Traffic Secrets, stacked podcast appearances, and sent all that attention to one link that fed his funnel.  In this episode I sit down with Andrew Bustamante to unpack how he went from CIA to info business, why his name started triggering the algorithm, and how a single quiz became the engine that turned curiosity into qualified buyers. Key Highlights: ◼️The earned-media ladder that took him from small shows to the biggest podcasts and sent every viewer to one conversion link ◼️How a CIA-inspired spy quiz filters for personality, pinpoints a weakness, and turns attention into buyers ◼️The zero-ad viral strategy he ran on repeat and when to layer paid traffic on top of it ◼️CIA tradecraft mapped to marketing: adopt vocabulary, build commonality first, then shift beliefs, plus the nine-month conversion model ◼️Inside his value ladder: tripwire, smart order bumps, a daily intelligence brief, community, and high-ticket experiences that move readers into video buyers Most people chase views, but people like Andrew simply demand views by being so interesting and informative! He proves you can turn story, psychology, and smart funnels into a system that compounds without brute-force ad spend. If you run content, a podcast circuit, or a personal brand, study this one. Build a single path for attention. Use a diagnostic that creates desire to fix a revealed weakness. Move customers up with offers that prepare them for the next medium and the next level. That is how you turn interviews into income and strangers into true fans. This episode of The Russell Brunson Show will self-destruct in 3…2…1… ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Want to learn more from Andrew? Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/47oTFXR Read Andrew’s CIA book ‘Shadow Cell’: https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook  Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/  Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain: https://axoltbrain.com/andy Listen to the podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media I kept seeing this guy everywhere online. Then I opened my Instagram DMs and found a message from 2021: “I’m the first ex-CIA officer to launch an information product… everything I’ve learned came from you.” A year later he went viral using the exact earned-media playbook from Traffic Secrets, stacked podcast appearances, and sent all that attention to one link that fed his funnel.  In this episode I sit down with Andrew Bustamante to unpack how he went from CIA to info business, why his name started triggering the algorithm, and how a single quiz became the engine that turned curiosity into qualified buyers. Key Highlights: ◼️The earned-media ladder that took him from small shows to the biggest podcasts and sent every viewer to one conversion link ◼️How a CIA-inspired spy quiz filters for personality, pinpoints a weakness, and turns attention into buyers ◼️The zero-ad viral strategy he ran on repeat and when to layer paid traffic on top of it ◼️CIA tradecraft mapped to marketing: adopt vocabulary, build commonality first, then shift beliefs, plus the nine-month conversion model ◼️Inside his value ladder: tripwire, smart order bumps, a daily intelligence brief, community, and high-ticket experiences that move readers into video buyers Most people chase views, but people like Andrew simply demand views by being so interesting and informative! He proves you can turn story, psychology, and smart funnels into a system that compounds without brute-force ad spend. If you run content, a podcast circuit, or a personal brand, study this one. Build a single path for attention. Use a diagnostic that creates desire to fix a revealed weakness. Move customers up with offers that prepare them for the next medium and the next level. That is how you turn interviews into income and strangers into true fans. This episode of The Russell Brunson Show will self-destruct in 3…2…1… ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Want to learn more from Andrew? Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/47oTFXR Read Andrew’s CIA book ‘Shadow Cell’: https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook  Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/  Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain: https://axoltbrain.com/andy Listen to the podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I kept seeing this guy everywhere online. Then I opened my Instagram DMs and found a message from 2021: “I’m the first ex-CIA officer to launch an information product… everything I’ve learned came from you.” A year later he went viral using the exact earned-media playbook from Traffic Secrets, stacked podcast appearances, and sent all that attention to one link that fed his funnel. 

In this episode I sit down with Andrew Bustamante to unpack how he went from CIA to info business, why his name started triggering the algorithm, and how a single quiz became the engine that turned curiosity into qualified buyers.


Key Highlights:

◼️The earned-media ladder that took him from small shows to the biggest podcasts and sent every viewer to one conversion link

◼️How a CIA-inspired spy quiz filters for personality, pinpoints a weakness, and turns attention into buyers

◼️The zero-ad viral strategy he ran on repeat and when to layer paid traffic on top of it

◼️CIA tradecraft mapped to marketing: adopt vocabulary, build commonality first, then shift beliefs, plus the nine-month conversion model

◼️Inside his value ladder: tripwire, smart order bumps, a daily intelligence brief, community, and high-ticket experiences that move readers into video buyers


Most people chase views, but people like Andrew simply demand views by being so interesting and informative! He proves you can turn story, psychology, and smart funnels into a system that compounds without brute-force ad spend. If you run content, a podcast circuit, or a personal brand, study this one. Build a single path for attention. Use a diagnostic that creates desire to fix a revealed weakness. Move customers up with offers that prepare them for the next medium and the next level. That is how you turn interviews into income and strangers into true fans.

This episode of The Russell Brunson Show will self-destruct in 3…2…1…


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast


Want to learn more from Andrew?

Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/47oTFXR

Read Andrew’s CIA book ‘Shadow Cell’: https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook 

Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante

Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/ 

Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain: https://axoltbrain.com/andy

Listen to the podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast

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]]> 4643 Peter Cuneo Reveals Secret Strategies That Turned Marvel Studios Into a Billion-Dollar Empire | #Success - Ep. 86 I got an email from someone saying, “Hey, you should interview this guy… He used to be the CEO of Marvel.” And I thought... wait, like Marvel-Marvel? As in Iron Man and Spider-Man??  Yeah… That guy. His name’s Peter Cuneo, and what he shared about leadership, storytelling, and turnarounds is pure gold. We talked about how he rebuilt Marvel from the ground up, and got to learn multiple lessons that will be in his upcoming book!  He’s one of the most fascinating leaders I’ve ever talked to. What he did at Marvel wasn’t just a financial turnaround, it was a transformation in leadership, storytelling, and how to connect people emotionally to a brand. Key Highlights: ◼️How Marvel used character development to rebuild emotional connection with fans ◼️Why great leaders embrace flaws and authenticity to build trust ◼️How consistent communication (like Peter’s pizza lunches) transforms culture ◼️Why strong leaders take ownership, admit mistakes, and lead through change ◼️The leadership framework behind his upcoming book Super Hero Leadership This conversation completely reframed how I think about leadership. Peter reminded me that people don’t follow products or plans… They follow characters. The same way fans connect to Iron Man or Captain America, your customers and employees connect to you when you let them see who you really are…. And communicate effectively with your team! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media I got an email from someone saying, “Hey, you should interview this guy… He used to be the CEO of Marvel.” And I thought... wait, like Marvel-Marvel? As in Iron Man and Spider-Man??  Yeah… That guy. His name’s Peter Cuneo, and what he shared about leadership, storytelling, and turnarounds is pure gold. We talked about how he rebuilt Marvel from the ground up, and got to learn multiple lessons that will be in his upcoming book!  He’s one of the most fascinating leaders I’ve ever talked to. What he did at Marvel wasn’t just a financial turnaround, it was a transformation in leadership, storytelling, and how to connect people emotionally to a brand. Key Highlights: ◼️How Marvel used character development to rebuild emotional connection with fans ◼️Why great leaders embrace flaws and authenticity to build trust ◼️How consistent communication (like Peter’s pizza lunches) transforms culture ◼️Why strong leaders take ownership, admit mistakes, and lead through change ◼️The leadership framework behind his upcoming book Super Hero Leadership This conversation completely reframed how I think about leadership. Peter reminded me that people don’t follow products or plans… They follow characters. The same way fans connect to Iron Man or Captain America, your customers and employees connect to you when you let them see who you really are…. And communicate effectively with your team! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I got an email from someone saying, “Hey, you should interview this guy… He used to be the CEO of Marvel.” And I thought... wait, like Marvel-Marvel? As in Iron Man and Spider-Man?? 

Yeah… That guy.

His name’s Peter Cuneo, and what he shared about leadership, storytelling, and turnarounds is pure gold. We talked about how he rebuilt Marvel from the ground up, and got to learn multiple lessons that will be in his upcoming book!  He’s one of the most fascinating leaders I’ve ever talked to. What he did at Marvel wasn’t just a financial turnaround, it was a transformation in leadership, storytelling, and how to connect people emotionally to a brand.


Key Highlights:

◼️How Marvel used character development to rebuild emotional connection with fans

◼️Why great leaders embrace flaws and authenticity to build trust

◼️How consistent communication (like Peter’s pizza lunches) transforms culture

◼️Why strong leaders take ownership, admit mistakes, and lead through change

◼️The leadership framework behind his upcoming book Super Hero Leadership


This conversation completely reframed how I think about leadership. Peter reminded me that people don’t follow products or plans… They follow characters. The same way fans connect to Iron Man or Captain America, your customers and employees connect to you when you let them see who you really are…. And communicate effectively with your team!

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 2088 The Small Book From the 1930’s That Reminded Me Why I Love Selling | #Sales - Ep. 85 Selling isn’t something you have to do… It’s something you get to do! When I first picked up The Romance of Selling, it completely reignited my passion for what we do as entrepreneurs. This book reminded me that selling isn’t about pressure, manipulation, or tactics. It’s about excitement, belief, and love for the thing you’re sharing with the world. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share what I learned from the book and how it connects to my own journey. From knocking doors as a missionary to failing in my first infomercial, I talk about the moment I realized that selling is really about energy and certainty. When you’re genuinely excited about what you have, that enthusiasm transfers to other people. And that’s when sales become effortless. Key Highlights: ◼️Why enthusiasm will always outperform the perfect script ◼️The difference between entrepreneurs, technicians, and true salespeople ◼️How a failed infomercial taught me the real meaning of belief in your offer ◼️The power of energy and certainty to move people to action ◼️Why selling is the greatest expression of service and leadership Here’s the truth: selling isn’t just how you make money, it’s how you change lives. When you sell, you’re inviting someone into a new story. You’re giving them hope, possibility, and transformation. That’s why I love this game so much. It’s not about closing deals. It’s about opening doors. ◼️If you want to go deeper and see my personal notes on The Romance of Selling, you can grab them here: https://russellbrunson.com/notes ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Selling isn’t something you have to do… It’s something you get to do! When I first picked up The Romance of Selling, it completely reignited my passion for what we do as entrepreneurs. This book reminded me that selling isn’t about pressure, manipulation, or tactics. It’s about excitement, belief, and love for the thing you’re sharing with the world. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share what I learned from the book and how it connects to my own journey. From knocking doors as a missionary to failing in my first infomercial, I talk about the moment I realized that selling is really about energy and certainty. When you’re genuinely excited about what you have, that enthusiasm transfers to other people. And that’s when sales become effortless. Key Highlights: ◼️Why enthusiasm will always outperform the perfect script ◼️The difference between entrepreneurs, technicians, and true salespeople ◼️How a failed infomercial taught me the real meaning of belief in your offer ◼️The power of energy and certainty to move people to action ◼️Why selling is the greatest expression of service and leadership Here’s the truth: selling isn’t just how you make money, it’s how you change lives. When you sell, you’re inviting someone into a new story. You’re giving them hope, possibility, and transformation. That’s why I love this game so much. It’s not about closing deals. It’s about opening doors. ◼️If you want to go deeper and see my personal notes on The Romance of Selling, you can grab them here: https://russellbrunson.com/notes ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Selling isn’t something you have to do… It’s something you get to do! When I first picked up The Romance of Selling, it completely reignited my passion for what we do as entrepreneurs. This book reminded me that selling isn’t about pressure, manipulation, or tactics. It’s about excitement, belief, and love for the thing you’re sharing with the world.

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share what I learned from the book and how it connects to my own journey. From knocking doors as a missionary to failing in my first infomercial, I talk about the moment I realized that selling is really about energy and certainty. When you’re genuinely excited about what you have, that enthusiasm transfers to other people. And that’s when sales become effortless.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why enthusiasm will always outperform the perfect script

◼️The difference between entrepreneurs, technicians, and true salespeople

◼️How a failed infomercial taught me the real meaning of belief in your offer

◼️The power of energy and certainty to move people to action

◼️Why selling is the greatest expression of service and leadership


Here’s the truth: selling isn’t just how you make money, it’s how you change lives. When you sell, you’re inviting someone into a new story. You’re giving them hope, possibility, and transformation. That’s why I love this game so much. It’s not about closing deals. It’s about opening doors.


◼️If you want to go deeper and see my personal notes on The Romance of Selling, you can grab them here: https://russellbrunson.com/notes


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 703 The Secret to Building a Business That Thrives in the AI Era | #Success - Ep. 84 AI is changing everything. Jobs are disappearing. Industries are majorly changing overnight. And yea… while most people are panicking… The next generation of entrepreneurs will be the ones who create and sell opportunities. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share what I’ve learned after six days of Inner Circle meetings with some of the smartest business owners in the world. You’ll hear how AI is transforming business models, where the biggest opportunities are emerging, and why the real gold rush of the next few years will come from helping others make money… Not just making it yourself. Key Highlights: ◼️Why AI will make most traditional jobs obsolete sooner than you think ◼️How entrepreneurs can make more money with smaller teams using AI ◼️The danger of a “jobless economy” and what it means for customers ◼️Why the biggest winners will be those who sell opportunity ◼️How to turn your existing product, service, or framework into a scalable opportunity This conversation is a wake-up call for every entrepreneur who’s paying attention. The old ways of doing business are vanishing fast, but new paths are opening for those willing to build them. If you can help someone else earn income, find meaning, or unlock a skill that changes their life, you’ll never run out of customers. The future isn’t about competing with machines…It’s about teaching humans how to win in a world shaped by them! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media AI is changing everything. Jobs are disappearing. Industries are majorly changing overnight. And yea… while most people are panicking… The next generation of entrepreneurs will be the ones who create and sell opportunities. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share what I’ve learned after six days of Inner Circle meetings with some of the smartest business owners in the world. You’ll hear how AI is transforming business models, where the biggest opportunities are emerging, and why the real gold rush of the next few years will come from helping others make money… Not just making it yourself. Key Highlights: ◼️Why AI will make most traditional jobs obsolete sooner than you think ◼️How entrepreneurs can make more money with smaller teams using AI ◼️The danger of a “jobless economy” and what it means for customers ◼️Why the biggest winners will be those who sell opportunity ◼️How to turn your existing product, service, or framework into a scalable opportunity This conversation is a wake-up call for every entrepreneur who’s paying attention. The old ways of doing business are vanishing fast, but new paths are opening for those willing to build them. If you can help someone else earn income, find meaning, or unlock a skill that changes their life, you’ll never run out of customers. The future isn’t about competing with machines…It’s about teaching humans how to win in a world shaped by them! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices AI is changing everything. Jobs are disappearing. Industries are majorly changing overnight. And yea… while most people are panicking… The next generation of entrepreneurs will be the ones who create and sell opportunities.

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share what I’ve learned after six days of Inner Circle meetings with some of the smartest business owners in the world. You’ll hear how AI is transforming business models, where the biggest opportunities are emerging, and why the real gold rush of the next few years will come from helping others make money… Not just making it yourself.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why AI will make most traditional jobs obsolete sooner than you think

◼️How entrepreneurs can make more money with smaller teams using AI

◼️The danger of a “jobless economy” and what it means for customers

◼️Why the biggest winners will be those who sell opportunity

◼️How to turn your existing product, service, or framework into a scalable opportunity


This conversation is a wake-up call for every entrepreneur who’s paying attention. The old ways of doing business are vanishing fast, but new paths are opening for those willing to build them. If you can help someone else earn income, find meaning, or unlock a skill that changes their life, you’ll never run out of customers. The future isn’t about competing with machines…It’s about teaching humans how to win in a world shaped by them!

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

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]]> 1134 Inside Adam Ivy’s ‘Scientific’ Formula for Exploding Your YouTube Channel | #Marketing - Ep. 83 What if you stopped chasing views and started building real influence? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, Adam Ivy shares how he went from years of chasing attention to building a thriving business through purpose-driven content. After losing hearing in one ear and learning to listen in a new way, Adam discovered the secret that most creators miss: success on YouTube isn’t about going viral… It’s about providing value that builds trust, converts, and compounds over time. We dive into the systems, mindsets, and frameworks he used to turn a single 25-minute YouTube video into over $1 million in revenue, and how you can use the same approach to grow your brand, authority, and audience with intention. Key Highlights: ◼️How shifting from attention to intention completely changes your YouTube growth trajectory. ◼️The 5 C framework that builds clarity, content, clients, conversions, and confidence. ◼️Why valuable content beats viral content every time, and how to create it. ◼️The SOUND strategy for structuring videos that hold attention and drive action. ◼️How to turn one video into an entire binge-worthy content ecosystem that fuels your business. Adam’s story is a reminder that success online isn’t about luck or timing, it’s about consistency, purpose, and knowing exactly who you serve. Whether you’re just starting or trying to scale your YouTube audience, this episode will show you how to create content that actually builds a business, not just a following. Listen in and learn how to make your message binge-worthy, and build something that lasts! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event → https://sellingonline.com/podcast ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media What if you stopped chasing views and started building real influence? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, Adam Ivy shares how he went from years of chasing attention to building a thriving business through purpose-driven content. After losing hearing in one ear and learning to listen in a new way, Adam discovered the secret that most creators miss: success on YouTube isn’t about going viral… It’s about providing value that builds trust, converts, and compounds over time. We dive into the systems, mindsets, and frameworks he used to turn a single 25-minute YouTube video into over $1 million in revenue, and how you can use the same approach to grow your brand, authority, and audience with intention. Key Highlights: ◼️How shifting from attention to intention completely changes your YouTube growth trajectory. ◼️The 5 C framework that builds clarity, content, clients, conversions, and confidence. ◼️Why valuable content beats viral content every time, and how to create it. ◼️The SOUND strategy for structuring videos that hold attention and drive action. ◼️How to turn one video into an entire binge-worthy content ecosystem that fuels your business. Adam’s story is a reminder that success online isn’t about luck or timing, it’s about consistency, purpose, and knowing exactly who you serve. Whether you’re just starting or trying to scale your YouTube audience, this episode will show you how to create content that actually builds a business, not just a following. Listen in and learn how to make your message binge-worthy, and build something that lasts! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event → https://sellingonline.com/podcast ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What if you stopped chasing views and started building real influence? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, Adam Ivy shares how he went from years of chasing attention to building a thriving business through purpose-driven content. After losing hearing in one ear and learning to listen in a new way, Adam discovered the secret that most creators miss: success on YouTube isn’t about going viral… It’s about providing value that builds trust, converts, and compounds over time.

We dive into the systems, mindsets, and frameworks he used to turn a single 25-minute YouTube video into over $1 million in revenue, and how you can use the same approach to grow your brand, authority, and audience with intention.


Key Highlights:

◼️How shifting from attention to intention completely changes your YouTube growth trajectory.

◼️The 5 C framework that builds clarity, content, clients, conversions, and confidence.

◼️Why valuable content beats viral content every time, and how to create it.

◼️The SOUND strategy for structuring videos that hold attention and drive action.

◼️How to turn one video into an entire binge-worthy content ecosystem that fuels your business.


Adam’s story is a reminder that success online isn’t about luck or timing, it’s about consistency, purpose, and knowing exactly who you serve. Whether you’re just starting or trying to scale your YouTube audience, this episode will show you how to create content that actually builds a business, not just a following. Listen in and learn how to make your message binge-worthy, and build something that lasts!

◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event → https://sellingonline.com/podcast

◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 1893 The Power of Awareness by Neville Goddard: The Hidden Skill That Changes Everything | #Success - Ep. 82 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into a rare first-edition copy of The Power of Awareness by Neville Goddard, and after reading it, I realized it’s one of the most important books I’ve ever owned! This isn’t just about mindset or positive thinking. It’s about how REAL awareness itself can shape your results, your relationships, and even your sleep. In this episode, I break down what Neville taught about imagination and creation. The thoughts you hold and the states you live in become the world around you. I share the exact nightly exercise I’ve been using from this book to fall asleep faster, solve problems that used to keep me awake, and align my actions with the outcomes I actually want. Key Highlights: ◼️ The single practice from Neville’s book that changed the way I approach business and life. ◼️ How awareness and visualization work together to create real, measurable results. ◼️ Why athletes use visualization for success, and how entrepreneurs can apply the same principle in business. ◼️ How Neville combined self-help with spirituality to make transformation both practical and powerful. When you truly understand awareness, success stops feeling like a grind and starts becoming a reflection of who you already are. Every major breakthrough begins with the ability to see yourself as the person who has already achieved it. This book taught me that what you imagine before you sleep is what you eventually wake up to. If you want to transform your business, your habits, or your peace of mind, this episode will show you where that transformation really begins. If you want my notes from The Power of Awareness, get them here: https://russellbrunson.com/notes And if you want to grab a copy to read for yourself, you can find it on my essential reading list here: https://amzn.to/4hEXf33 ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event → https://sellingonline.com/podcast ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into a rare first-edition copy of The Power of Awareness by Neville Goddard, and after reading it, I realized it’s one of the most important books I’ve ever owned! This isn’t just about mindset or positive thinking. It’s about how REAL awareness itself can shape your results, your relationships, and even your sleep. In this episode, I break down what Neville taught about imagination and creation. The thoughts you hold and the states you live in become the world around you. I share the exact nightly exercise I’ve been using from this book to fall asleep faster, solve problems that used to keep me awake, and align my actions with the outcomes I actually want. Key Highlights: ◼️ The single practice from Neville’s book that changed the way I approach business and life. ◼️ How awareness and visualization work together to create real, measurable results. ◼️ Why athletes use visualization for success, and how entrepreneurs can apply the same principle in business. ◼️ How Neville combined self-help with spirituality to make transformation both practical and powerful. When you truly understand awareness, success stops feeling like a grind and starts becoming a reflection of who you already are. Every major breakthrough begins with the ability to see yourself as the person who has already achieved it. This book taught me that what you imagine before you sleep is what you eventually wake up to. If you want to transform your business, your habits, or your peace of mind, this episode will show you where that transformation really begins. If you want my notes from The Power of Awareness, get them here: https://russellbrunson.com/notes And if you want to grab a copy to read for yourself, you can find it on my essential reading list here: https://amzn.to/4hEXf33 ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event → https://sellingonline.com/podcast ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into a rare first-edition copy of The Power of Awareness by Neville Goddard, and after reading it, I realized it’s one of the most important books I’ve ever owned! This isn’t just about mindset or positive thinking. It’s about how REAL awareness itself can shape your results, your relationships, and even your sleep.

In this episode, I break down what Neville taught about imagination and creation. The thoughts you hold and the states you live in become the world around you. I share the exact nightly exercise I’ve been using from this book to fall asleep faster, solve problems that used to keep me awake, and align my actions with the outcomes I actually want.

Key Highlights:

◼️ The single practice from Neville’s book that changed the way I approach business and life.

◼️ How awareness and visualization work together to create real, measurable results.

◼️ Why athletes use visualization for success, and how entrepreneurs can apply the same principle in business.

◼️ How Neville combined self-help with spirituality to make transformation both practical and powerful.

When you truly understand awareness, success stops feeling like a grind and starts becoming a reflection of who you already are. Every major breakthrough begins with the ability to see yourself as the person who has already achieved it. This book taught me that what you imagine before you sleep is what you eventually wake up to. If you want to transform your business, your habits, or your peace of mind, this episode will show you where that transformation really begins.


If you want my notes from The Power of Awareness, get them here: https://russellbrunson.com/notes And if you want to grab a copy to read for yourself, you can find it on my essential reading list here: https://amzn.to/4hEXf33


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event → https://sellingonline.com/podcast

◼️Still don’t have a funnel?

ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 545 The MIFGE Secret: Turning Offers Into Legacy Assets That Live Forever | #Marketing - Ep. 81 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show I talk about what happens after you’ve achieved everything you set out to do and still feel like something’s missing. For years, I thought success meant the next funnel, the next product, the next million-dollar launch. But eventually, I realized that making money wasn’t what made me happy. What I wanted was to build something that would last… something that would outlive me. That’s what sent me down the rabbit hole of legacy… and what led me to rediscover the power of the written word. Books don’t fade when the algorithms shift. They keep selling, keep teaching, keep changing people’s lives long after we’re gone. That’s why I started building a 20,000-square-foot library behind ClickFunnels HQ. It’s why I flew home with thirty crates of Napoleon Hill’s personal manuscripts. And it’s why I’ve spent the last few years turning presentations, newsletters, and even funnels into timeless assets that can live forever. Key Highlights: ◼️ The story behind my private library project and what it represents for entrepreneurs who are truly “driven.” ◼️ The wild story of buying Napoleon Hill’s personal archive and what it taught me about stewardship, history, and preserving ideas. ◼️ How rebuilding Dan Kennedy’s M.I.F.G.E. revealed a repeatable way to build continuity funnels that pay for themselves from day one. ◼️ Why Ben Settle’s high-ticket print strategy inspired me to create physical books and assets designed to be passed down, not forgotten. ◼️ How every entrepreneur can turn their knowledge, presentations, and ideas into a printed, high-value offer that stands the test of time. At some point, every entrepreneur faces the same question: what will remain when the launches end and the spotlight fades? This episode is about learning to build for forever. The written word, the frameworks, the teachings… those are the real legacy. If you want to build something that lasts generations, it starts with putting your message into a form that never dies. Because one day, someone else might be reading your words the same way I now read Napoleon Hill’s… and that’s the real game we’re playing!!! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event → https://sellingonline.com/podcast ◼️Still don’t have a funnel?ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show I talk about what happens after you’ve achieved everything you set out to do and still feel like something’s missing. For years, I thought success meant the next funnel, the next product, the next million-dollar launch. But eventually, I realized that making money wasn’t what made me happy. What I wanted was to build something that would last… something that would outlive me. That’s what sent me down the rabbit hole of legacy… and what led me to rediscover the power of the written word. Books don’t fade when the algorithms shift. They keep selling, keep teaching, keep changing people’s lives long after we’re gone. That’s why I started building a 20,000-square-foot library behind ClickFunnels HQ. It’s why I flew home with thirty crates of Napoleon Hill’s personal manuscripts. And it’s why I’ve spent the last few years turning presentations, newsletters, and even funnels into timeless assets that can live forever. Key Highlights: ◼️ The story behind my private library project and what it represents for entrepreneurs who are truly “driven.” ◼️ The wild story of buying Napoleon Hill’s personal archive and what it taught me about stewardship, history, and preserving ideas. ◼️ How rebuilding Dan Kennedy’s M.I.F.G.E. revealed a repeatable way to build continuity funnels that pay for themselves from day one. ◼️ Why Ben Settle’s high-ticket print strategy inspired me to create physical books and assets designed to be passed down, not forgotten. ◼️ How every entrepreneur can turn their knowledge, presentations, and ideas into a printed, high-value offer that stands the test of time. At some point, every entrepreneur faces the same question: what will remain when the launches end and the spotlight fades? This episode is about learning to build for forever. The written word, the frameworks, the teachings… those are the real legacy. If you want to build something that lasts generations, it starts with putting your message into a form that never dies. Because one day, someone else might be reading your words the same way I now read Napoleon Hill’s… and that’s the real game we’re playing!!! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event → https://sellingonline.com/podcast ◼️Still don’t have a funnel?ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show I talk about what happens after you’ve achieved everything you set out to do and still feel like something’s missing. For years, I thought success meant the next funnel, the next product, the next million-dollar launch. But eventually, I realized that making money wasn’t what made me happy. What I wanted was to build something that would last… something that would outlive me.

That’s what sent me down the rabbit hole of legacy… and what led me to rediscover the power of the written word. Books don’t fade when the algorithms shift. They keep selling, keep teaching, keep changing people’s lives long after we’re gone. That’s why I started building a 20,000-square-foot library behind ClickFunnels HQ. It’s why I flew home with thirty crates of Napoleon Hill’s personal manuscripts. And it’s why I’ve spent the last few years turning presentations, newsletters, and even funnels into timeless assets that can live forever.

Key Highlights:

◼️ The story behind my private library project and what it represents for entrepreneurs who are truly “driven.”

◼️ The wild story of buying Napoleon Hill’s personal archive and what it taught me about stewardship, history, and preserving ideas.

◼️ How rebuilding Dan Kennedy’s M.I.F.G.E. revealed a repeatable way to build continuity funnels that pay for themselves from day one.

◼️ Why Ben Settle’s high-ticket print strategy inspired me to create physical books and assets designed to be passed down, not forgotten.

◼️ How every entrepreneur can turn their knowledge, presentations, and ideas into a printed, high-value offer that stands the test of time.


At some point, every entrepreneur faces the same question: what will remain when the launches end and the spotlight fades? This episode is about learning to build for forever. The written word, the frameworks, the teachings… those are the real legacy. If you want to build something that lasts generations, it starts with putting your message into a form that never dies. Because one day, someone else might be reading your words the same way I now read Napoleon Hill’s… and that’s the real game we’re playing!!!


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event → https://sellingonline.com/podcast

◼️Still don’t have a funnel?
ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 3819 The Hidden Lesson Inside A Message to Garcia: Why Winners Don’t Wait for Instructions | #Success - Ep. 80 What separates people who talk about success from those who actually achieve it? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down one of my favorite short books of all time… A Message to Garcia by Elbert Hubbard. It’s a story that completely reframed how I think about work, entrepreneurship, and responsibility. This isn’t a book about tactics, it’s about character. It’s about becoming the kind of person who doesn’t need hand-holding, doesn’t need to be pushed, and doesn’t make excuses. The kind of person who simply takes the message, figures it out, and delivers. Key Highlights: ◼️The timeless principle from A Message to Garcia that every entrepreneur and team member needs to master. ◼️Why success has less to do with talent or opportunity, and everything to do with how you respond when no one’s telling you what to do. ◼️How this mindset applies directly to marketing, funnels, and leadership inside your business. ◼️The personal challenge I give every entrepreneur who’s tired of waiting for direction and ready to start executing. It’s so short, it will only take you a few minutes to read it… So, why not!? This message has shaped how I build teams, launch offers, and show up every day… And I think it’ll do the same for you. Want to read it or give it to your team? Grab your own copy of A Message to Garcia HERE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel?ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media What separates people who talk about success from those who actually achieve it? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down one of my favorite short books of all time… A Message to Garcia by Elbert Hubbard. It’s a story that completely reframed how I think about work, entrepreneurship, and responsibility. This isn’t a book about tactics, it’s about character. It’s about becoming the kind of person who doesn’t need hand-holding, doesn’t need to be pushed, and doesn’t make excuses. The kind of person who simply takes the message, figures it out, and delivers. Key Highlights: ◼️The timeless principle from A Message to Garcia that every entrepreneur and team member needs to master. ◼️Why success has less to do with talent or opportunity, and everything to do with how you respond when no one’s telling you what to do. ◼️How this mindset applies directly to marketing, funnels, and leadership inside your business. ◼️The personal challenge I give every entrepreneur who’s tired of waiting for direction and ready to start executing. It’s so short, it will only take you a few minutes to read it… So, why not!? This message has shaped how I build teams, launch offers, and show up every day… And I think it’ll do the same for you. Want to read it or give it to your team? Grab your own copy of A Message to Garcia HERE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel?ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What separates people who talk about success from those who actually achieve it? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down one of my favorite short books of all time… A Message to Garcia by Elbert Hubbard. It’s a story that completely reframed how I think about work, entrepreneurship, and responsibility.

This isn’t a book about tactics, it’s about character. It’s about becoming the kind of person who doesn’t need hand-holding, doesn’t need to be pushed, and doesn’t make excuses. The kind of person who simply takes the message, figures it out, and delivers.

Key Highlights:

◼️The timeless principle from A Message to Garcia that every entrepreneur and team member needs to master.

◼️Why success has less to do with talent or opportunity, and everything to do with how you respond when no one’s telling you what to do.

◼️How this mindset applies directly to marketing, funnels, and leadership inside your business.

◼️The personal challenge I give every entrepreneur who’s tired of waiting for direction and ready to start executing.


It’s so short, it will only take you a few minutes to read it… So, why not!? This message has shaped how I build teams, launch offers, and show up every day… And I think it’ll do the same for you. Want to read it or give it to your team?

Grab your own copy of A Message to Garcia HERE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel?ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 854 When You Follow the Framework, This Happens… Ryan Lee’s Inspirational Story and Strategies Revealed! | #Success - Ep. 79 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Ryan Lee (My buddy from elementary school that I’d lost touch with for over 20 years!), who built a wildly successful coaching business around landscape lighting (Yes… Landscape lighting!!) by following the Expert Secrets framework exactly as it’s taught. From posting his first awkward Facebook Live while locked in a hotel room, to closing high-ticket clients and building recurring programs, Ryan’s story is a real-world INSANE example of what happens when you take imperfect action and trust the process!! He went from running a service business and undercharging for his work to finding confidence, raising his prices, and turning his niche expertise into a movement. We break down the mindset shifts, the marketing strategy, and the business model behind it all…And how these same principles can work in any industry. Key Highlights: ◼️ The moment he stopped waiting to be confident and started publishing anyway. ◼️ How going live on Facebook every day built a loyal audience and filled his first beta high-ticket program that ultimately catapulted his business to success. ◼️ Why charging more created better results for his clients and freedom for him! ◼️ The exact framework he followed to turn one ‘niche’ skill into a scalable, purpose-driven business that truly is his calling! If you’ve ever wondered whether your idea is “too small” or your audience “too niche,” Ryan’s story will show you what’s possible when you take consistent action and follow the right playbook! See what Ryan’s built and how he teaches his craft at lightingforprofits.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel?ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Ryan Lee (My buddy from elementary school that I’d lost touch with for over 20 years!), who built a wildly successful coaching business around landscape lighting (Yes… Landscape lighting!!) by following the Expert Secrets framework exactly as it’s taught. From posting his first awkward Facebook Live while locked in a hotel room, to closing high-ticket clients and building recurring programs, Ryan’s story is a real-world INSANE example of what happens when you take imperfect action and trust the process!! He went from running a service business and undercharging for his work to finding confidence, raising his prices, and turning his niche expertise into a movement. We break down the mindset shifts, the marketing strategy, and the business model behind it all…And how these same principles can work in any industry. Key Highlights: ◼️ The moment he stopped waiting to be confident and started publishing anyway. ◼️ How going live on Facebook every day built a loyal audience and filled his first beta high-ticket program that ultimately catapulted his business to success. ◼️ Why charging more created better results for his clients and freedom for him! ◼️ The exact framework he followed to turn one ‘niche’ skill into a scalable, purpose-driven business that truly is his calling! If you’ve ever wondered whether your idea is “too small” or your audience “too niche,” Ryan’s story will show you what’s possible when you take consistent action and follow the right playbook! See what Ryan’s built and how he teaches his craft at lightingforprofits.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel?ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Ryan Lee (My buddy from elementary school that I’d lost touch with for over 20 years!), who built a wildly successful coaching business around landscape lighting (Yes… Landscape lighting!!) by following the Expert Secrets framework exactly as it’s taught. From posting his first awkward Facebook Live while locked in a hotel room, to closing high-ticket clients and building recurring programs, Ryan’s story is a real-world INSANE example of what happens when you take imperfect action and trust the process!!

He went from running a service business and undercharging for his work to finding confidence, raising his prices, and turning his niche expertise into a movement. We break down the mindset shifts, the marketing strategy, and the business model behind it all…And how these same principles can work in any industry.


Key Highlights:

◼️ The moment he stopped waiting to be confident and started publishing anyway.

◼️ How going live on Facebook every day built a loyal audience and filled his first beta high-ticket program that ultimately catapulted his business to success.

◼️ Why charging more created better results for his clients and freedom for him!

◼️ The exact framework he followed to turn one ‘niche’ skill into a scalable, purpose-driven business that truly is his calling!


If you’ve ever wondered whether your idea is “too small” or your audience “too niche,” Ryan’s story will show you what’s possible when you take consistent action and follow the right playbook!

See what Ryan’s built and how he teaches his craft at lightingforprofits.com


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel?ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 2385 Funnel Hack First, Webinar First, and the Math of Tiny Marketing Wins | #Marketing - Ep. 78 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, It’s another OFA Q&A session where I break down some of the most important marketing principles that drive real revenue growth…  Starting with one of our core values: Funnel Hack First. Before you build, you model what’s already working. I’ll show you how this mindset applies to everything from creating your webinar funnel to structuring your fulfillment model so it scales. You’ll also hear why I recommend using live webinars as the front-end engine (instead of book funnels), how small conversion lifts create massive results, and how to adjust your pricing to make group offers irresistible. Whether you’re selling online or scaling your coaching business, these lessons will change the way you think about funnels, pricing, and fulfillment. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why we “funnel hack first” before launching any new campaign ◼️ How and why running a live webinar first outperforms most evergreen and book funnels ◼️ My sneaky secret for turning a free ebook into a strategic bonus that boosts show-up rates (Instead of just being a plain, boring lead magnet…) ◼️ The simple pricing move that makes group programs sell themselves ◼️ Why tiny conversion wins compound into huge sales growth ◼️ Why the facilitator model is hands down better than the ‘coaching’ model If you’re serious about marketing, online sales, or building funnels that convert… This episode gives you some very applicable tweaks and shifts you can make starting now in your business! And if you want to funnel hack and follow the bread crumbs I dropped in this episode… Here are the links to the funnels I mentioned:  Agora-inspired test funnel → offerlablaunch.com Using ebook to keep visitors on the webinar → salesfunnels.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, It’s another OFA Q&A session where I break down some of the most important marketing principles that drive real revenue growth…  Starting with one of our core values: Funnel Hack First. Before you build, you model what’s already working. I’ll show you how this mindset applies to everything from creating your webinar funnel to structuring your fulfillment model so it scales. You’ll also hear why I recommend using live webinars as the front-end engine (instead of book funnels), how small conversion lifts create massive results, and how to adjust your pricing to make group offers irresistible. Whether you’re selling online or scaling your coaching business, these lessons will change the way you think about funnels, pricing, and fulfillment. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why we “funnel hack first” before launching any new campaign ◼️ How and why running a live webinar first outperforms most evergreen and book funnels ◼️ My sneaky secret for turning a free ebook into a strategic bonus that boosts show-up rates (Instead of just being a plain, boring lead magnet…) ◼️ The simple pricing move that makes group programs sell themselves ◼️ Why tiny conversion wins compound into huge sales growth ◼️ Why the facilitator model is hands down better than the ‘coaching’ model If you’re serious about marketing, online sales, or building funnels that convert… This episode gives you some very applicable tweaks and shifts you can make starting now in your business! And if you want to funnel hack and follow the bread crumbs I dropped in this episode… Here are the links to the funnels I mentioned:  Agora-inspired test funnel → offerlablaunch.com Using ebook to keep visitors on the webinar → salesfunnels.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, It’s another OFA Q&A session where I break down some of the most important marketing principles that drive real revenue growth… 

Starting with one of our core values: Funnel Hack First. Before you build, you model what’s already working. I’ll show you how this mindset applies to everything from creating your webinar funnel to structuring your fulfillment model so it scales.

You’ll also hear why I recommend using live webinars as the front-end engine (instead of book funnels), how small conversion lifts create massive results, and how to adjust your pricing to make group offers irresistible. Whether you’re selling online or scaling your coaching business, these lessons will change the way you think about funnels, pricing, and fulfillment.

Key Highlights:

◼️ Why we “funnel hack first” before launching any new campaign

◼️ How and why running a live webinar first outperforms most evergreen and book funnels

◼️ My sneaky secret for turning a free ebook into a strategic bonus that boosts show-up rates (Instead of just being a plain, boring lead magnet…)

◼️ The simple pricing move that makes group programs sell themselves

◼️ Why tiny conversion wins compound into huge sales growth

◼️ Why the facilitator model is hands down better than the ‘coaching’ model


If you’re serious about marketing, online sales, or building funnels that convert… This episode gives you some very applicable tweaks and shifts you can make starting now in your business! And if you want to funnel hack and follow the bread crumbs I dropped in this episode… Here are the links to the funnels I mentioned: 

Agora-inspired test funnel → offerlablaunch.com

Using ebook to keep visitors on the webinar → salesfunnels.com


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠


◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 3618 One Funnel Away Q&A: Real-Time Funnel Fixes You Can Use Today | #Marketing - Ep. 77 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing a live Q&A from the One Funnel Away Challenge! I jumped in to coach a few entrepreneurs in real time. We talked about everything from tech setup for presenting, to simplifying your funnel so it converts, to making your webinar headlines more relatable. One person asked how to manage slides, comments, and delivery without getting thrown off. I walked through how I use Google Slides in presenter view, why I don’t look at comments live, and how I use two monitors to keep things flowing. Later, I broke down a funnel that was trying to do too much. I explained how to simplify by starting with one core product, then use OTOs to stack value and increase average cart value. We also looked at webinar registration…. Why curiosity matters, how to rewrite headlines to speak to your audience’s current situation, and ways to promote without jumping straight into ads. I shared thoughts on price points too… because a $10K offer on a webinar is a tough sell if you haven’t built the right runway. Key Highlights: ◼️The right way to set up your slides and screens when presenting ◼️Why I avoid reading comments live (and what I do instead) ◼️How to simplify your funnel by leading with one clear product ◼️Adding upsells after the sale to increase conversions ◼️Tips for creating curiosity and rewriting webinar headlines ◼️Why $500 to $1K is the sweet spot for most webinar offers If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by your tech, your funnel, or your messaging… This episode will help you tighten it all up! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing a live Q&A from the One Funnel Away Challenge! I jumped in to coach a few entrepreneurs in real time. We talked about everything from tech setup for presenting, to simplifying your funnel so it converts, to making your webinar headlines more relatable. One person asked how to manage slides, comments, and delivery without getting thrown off. I walked through how I use Google Slides in presenter view, why I don’t look at comments live, and how I use two monitors to keep things flowing. Later, I broke down a funnel that was trying to do too much. I explained how to simplify by starting with one core product, then use OTOs to stack value and increase average cart value. We also looked at webinar registration…. Why curiosity matters, how to rewrite headlines to speak to your audience’s current situation, and ways to promote without jumping straight into ads. I shared thoughts on price points too… because a $10K offer on a webinar is a tough sell if you haven’t built the right runway. Key Highlights: ◼️The right way to set up your slides and screens when presenting ◼️Why I avoid reading comments live (and what I do instead) ◼️How to simplify your funnel by leading with one clear product ◼️Adding upsells after the sale to increase conversions ◼️Tips for creating curiosity and rewriting webinar headlines ◼️Why $500 to $1K is the sweet spot for most webinar offers If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by your tech, your funnel, or your messaging… This episode will help you tighten it all up! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing a live Q&A from the One Funnel Away Challenge! I jumped in to coach a few entrepreneurs in real time. We talked about everything from tech setup for presenting, to simplifying your funnel so it converts, to making your webinar headlines more relatable.

One person asked how to manage slides, comments, and delivery without getting thrown off. I walked through how I use Google Slides in presenter view, why I don’t look at comments live, and how I use two monitors to keep things flowing.

Later, I broke down a funnel that was trying to do too much. I explained how to simplify by starting with one core product, then use OTOs to stack value and increase average cart value. We also looked at webinar registration…. Why curiosity matters, how to rewrite headlines to speak to your audience’s current situation, and ways to promote without jumping straight into ads. I shared thoughts on price points too… because a $10K offer on a webinar is a tough sell if you haven’t built the right runway.

Key Highlights:

◼️The right way to set up your slides and screens when presenting

◼️Why I avoid reading comments live (and what I do instead)

◼️How to simplify your funnel by leading with one clear product

◼️Adding upsells after the sale to increase conversions

◼️Tips for creating curiosity and rewriting webinar headlines

◼️Why $500 to $1K is the sweet spot for most webinar offers


If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by your tech, your funnel, or your messaging… This episode will help you tighten it all up!


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 4184 Inside the Master Key System: Charles Haanel on Thought, Destiny, and the Universal Mind | #Success - Ep. 76 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you inside my rare book vault to reveal one of the most powerful success courses ever created… The Master Key System by Charles Haanel. This was the course that helped shape Napoleon Hill’s thinking long before Think and Grow Rich and was even lost to history for 70 years!! I discuss how I found some original copies of the course, including one I paid $100,000 for, and share some of the most important lessons I’ve ever learned from any book. You’ll also hear the actual testimonial that Napoleon Hill wrote to Charles Haanel in 1919, crediting this course for a big part of his success. The core message? Your environment doesn’t shape you… Your thoughts about your environment do!  And it all ties back to something Haanel called the Universal Mind, the same thing Napoleon Hill would later call the sixth sense. I break down how this concept works, why it's still relevant, and how to actually apply it in your life. Key Highlights: ◼️ The one lesson from The Master Key System that changed my entire perspective ◼️ Why you are the architect of your own destiny ◼️ Understanding the Universal Mind, and how to tap into it ◼️ How your subconscious mind connects to God and delivers answers ◼️ Napoleon Hill’s personal testimonial to Charles Haanel (I read it word-for-word) ◼️ The role of concentrated thought and why it's more powerful than you think If you’ve ever felt like you’re stuck in your circumstances, this episode is a wake-up call. Your thoughts are building your world whether you realize it or not, and once you understand how to direct them, everything changes. And if you want to get my personal notes from The Master Key System, just click the link in the description and download them for free here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you inside my rare book vault to reveal one of the most powerful success courses ever created… The Master Key System by Charles Haanel. This was the course that helped shape Napoleon Hill’s thinking long before Think and Grow Rich and was even lost to history for 70 years!! I discuss how I found some original copies of the course, including one I paid $100,000 for, and share some of the most important lessons I’ve ever learned from any book. You’ll also hear the actual testimonial that Napoleon Hill wrote to Charles Haanel in 1919, crediting this course for a big part of his success. The core message? Your environment doesn’t shape you… Your thoughts about your environment do!  And it all ties back to something Haanel called the Universal Mind, the same thing Napoleon Hill would later call the sixth sense. I break down how this concept works, why it's still relevant, and how to actually apply it in your life. Key Highlights: ◼️ The one lesson from The Master Key System that changed my entire perspective ◼️ Why you are the architect of your own destiny ◼️ Understanding the Universal Mind, and how to tap into it ◼️ How your subconscious mind connects to God and delivers answers ◼️ Napoleon Hill’s personal testimonial to Charles Haanel (I read it word-for-word) ◼️ The role of concentrated thought and why it's more powerful than you think If you’ve ever felt like you’re stuck in your circumstances, this episode is a wake-up call. Your thoughts are building your world whether you realize it or not, and once you understand how to direct them, everything changes. And if you want to get my personal notes from The Master Key System, just click the link in the description and download them for free here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you inside my rare book vault to reveal one of the most powerful success courses ever created… The Master Key System by Charles Haanel. This was the course that helped shape Napoleon Hill’s thinking long before Think and Grow Rich and was even lost to history for 70 years!!

I discuss how I found some original copies of the course, including one I paid $100,000 for, and share some of the most important lessons I’ve ever learned from any book. You’ll also hear the actual testimonial that Napoleon Hill wrote to Charles Haanel in 1919, crediting this course for a big part of his success.

The core message? Your environment doesn’t shape you… Your thoughts about your environment do!  And it all ties back to something Haanel called the Universal Mind, the same thing Napoleon Hill would later call the sixth sense. I break down how this concept works, why it's still relevant, and how to actually apply it in your life.

Key Highlights:

◼️ The one lesson from The Master Key System that changed my entire perspective

◼️ Why you are the architect of your own destiny

◼️ Understanding the Universal Mind, and how to tap into it

◼️ How your subconscious mind connects to God and delivers answers

◼️ Napoleon Hill’s personal testimonial to Charles Haanel (I read it word-for-word)

◼️ The role of concentrated thought and why it's more powerful than you think


If you’ve ever felt like you’re stuck in your circumstances, this episode is a wake-up call. Your thoughts are building your world whether you realize it or not, and once you understand how to direct them, everything changes.

And if you want to get my personal notes from The Master Key System, just click the link in the description and download them for free here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠


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]]> 1031 Marketing Lessons From a $150,000 First Edition “Book of Mormon” | #Marketing - Ep. 75 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you inside the vault to share the story behind the very first book in my rare book collection… A first edition Book of Mormon. I paid $150,000 for it, but for me, the value goes way beyond money. This was the book that started my obsession with collecting, but even more than that, it taught me a foundational business principle that I still live by today. If you’ve ever wanted to build a movement, create a following, or lead a community, then you need to understand this: almost every mass movement in history (religious or otherwise) started with a book. A message…. Some sort of doctrine or manifesto. I break down how this truth applies to you, your business, and your calling. Whether you're a coach, an entrepreneur, or just someone with a message to share, this episode will give you clarity on how to put your stake in the ground. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why the Book of Mormon was the first book I ever bought for my collection (and what it’s worth today) ◼️ The connection between religious texts and modern marketing movements ◼️ How books like Dotcom Secrets created the Clickfunnels community ◼️ Why your “heretic message” is what your people are waiting for ◼️ How to start writing your book or manifesto (even if you’re not a writer) This isn’t about converting you to any religion, haha! It’s about understanding the power of putting your beliefs into a book, and how that act alone can change the trajectory of your business and your life. Want to see my favorite verses about Christ from the Book of Mormon? Grab them in the show notes below. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 01 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you inside the vault to share the story behind the very first book in my rare book collection… A first edition Book of Mormon. I paid $150,000 for it, but for me, the value goes way beyond money. This was the book that started my obsession with collecting, but even more than that, it taught me a foundational business principle that I still live by today. If you’ve ever wanted to build a movement, create a following, or lead a community, then you need to understand this: almost every mass movement in history (religious or otherwise) started with a book. A message…. Some sort of doctrine or manifesto. I break down how this truth applies to you, your business, and your calling. Whether you're a coach, an entrepreneur, or just someone with a message to share, this episode will give you clarity on how to put your stake in the ground. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why the Book of Mormon was the first book I ever bought for my collection (and what it’s worth today) ◼️ The connection between religious texts and modern marketing movements ◼️ How books like Dotcom Secrets created the Clickfunnels community ◼️ Why your “heretic message” is what your people are waiting for ◼️ How to start writing your book or manifesto (even if you’re not a writer) This isn’t about converting you to any religion, haha! It’s about understanding the power of putting your beliefs into a book, and how that act alone can change the trajectory of your business and your life. Want to see my favorite verses about Christ from the Book of Mormon? Grab them in the show notes below. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you inside the vault to share the story behind the very first book in my rare book collection… A first edition Book of Mormon. I paid $150,000 for it, but for me, the value goes way beyond money. This was the book that started my obsession with collecting, but even more than that, it taught me a foundational business principle that I still live by today.

If you’ve ever wanted to build a movement, create a following, or lead a community, then you need to understand this: almost every mass movement in history (religious or otherwise) started with a book. A message…. Some sort of doctrine or manifesto. I break down how this truth applies to you, your business, and your calling. Whether you're a coach, an entrepreneur, or just someone with a message to share, this episode will give you clarity on how to put your stake in the ground.

Key Highlights:

◼️ Why the Book of Mormon was the first book I ever bought for my collection (and what it’s worth today)

◼️ The connection between religious texts and modern marketing movements

◼️ How books like Dotcom Secrets created the Clickfunnels community

◼️ Why your “heretic message” is what your people are waiting for

◼️ How to start writing your book or manifesto (even if you’re not a writer)


This isn’t about converting you to any religion, haha! It’s about understanding the power of putting your beliefs into a book, and how that act alone can change the trajectory of your business and your life.

Want to see my favorite verses about Christ from the Book of Mormon? Grab them in the show notes below.

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠


◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 680 Clipping Secrets: The New Side Hustle That’s Blowing Up As We Speak | #Marketing - Ep. 74 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Emrah Bayraktar, one of the top experts in the emerging world of clipping, and we unpack a business model that's blowing up right now… Clipping! Whether you’re looking for a simple way to make money online with zero ad spend… or you’re an offer owner wanting more traffic, more exposure, and more reach without paying Zuckerberg, this episode lays it all out.  Emrah shares how he went from broke college student to making over $130,000/year clipping videos!! It’s insane! He reveals how he was part of Andrew Tate’s original clipping team, what he learned, and how creators today are building armies of clippers to generate millions of views (and real money). And how you can do it too! Key Highlights: ◼️ How Emrah made $45K in affiliate commissions and $87K in clipper payouts ◼️ The #1 thing that gets clips to go viral (hint: it’s not editing) ◼️ Why most beginner clippers fail… and what to do instead ◼️ How offer owners can get free traffic from an unpaid content army ◼️ The biggest mistake he made when we first tried clipping (and how to avoid it) Whether you want to become a clipper, hire clippers, or just understand how this whole thing works… This episode gives you the road map. And if you want to go deeper, grab our Affiliate Clipping Secrets course… it’s inside Affiliate Bootcamp at affiliatebootcamp.com It's just $7 to get started on this! Clipping could be the easiest way to make money online right now… and you don’t have to have any money to get started with it - That’s why it’s so cool! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Emrah Bayraktar, one of the top experts in the emerging world of clipping, and we unpack a business model that's blowing up right now… Clipping! Whether you’re looking for a simple way to make money online with zero ad spend… or you’re an offer owner wanting more traffic, more exposure, and more reach without paying Zuckerberg, this episode lays it all out.  Emrah shares how he went from broke college student to making over $130,000/year clipping videos!! It’s insane! He reveals how he was part of Andrew Tate’s original clipping team, what he learned, and how creators today are building armies of clippers to generate millions of views (and real money). And how you can do it too! Key Highlights: ◼️ How Emrah made $45K in affiliate commissions and $87K in clipper payouts ◼️ The #1 thing that gets clips to go viral (hint: it’s not editing) ◼️ Why most beginner clippers fail… and what to do instead ◼️ How offer owners can get free traffic from an unpaid content army ◼️ The biggest mistake he made when we first tried clipping (and how to avoid it) Whether you want to become a clipper, hire clippers, or just understand how this whole thing works… This episode gives you the road map. And if you want to go deeper, grab our Affiliate Clipping Secrets course… it’s inside Affiliate Bootcamp at affiliatebootcamp.com It's just $7 to get started on this! Clipping could be the easiest way to make money online right now… and you don’t have to have any money to get started with it - That’s why it’s so cool! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Emrah Bayraktar, one of the top experts in the emerging world of clipping, and we unpack a business model that's blowing up right now… Clipping!

Whether you’re looking for a simple way to make money online with zero ad spend… or you’re an offer owner wanting more traffic, more exposure, and more reach without paying Zuckerberg, this episode lays it all out. 

Emrah shares how he went from broke college student to making over $130,000/year clipping videos!! It’s insane! He reveals how he was part of Andrew Tate’s original clipping team, what he learned, and how creators today are building armies of clippers to generate millions of views (and real money). And how you can do it too!

Key Highlights:

◼️ How Emrah made $45K in affiliate commissions and $87K in clipper payouts

◼️ The #1 thing that gets clips to go viral (hint: it’s not editing)

◼️ Why most beginner clippers fail… and what to do instead

◼️ How offer owners can get free traffic from an unpaid content army

◼️ The biggest mistake he made when we first tried clipping (and how to avoid it)


Whether you want to become a clipper, hire clippers, or just understand how this whole thing works… This episode gives you the road map.

And if you want to go deeper, grab our Affiliate Clipping Secrets course… it’s inside Affiliate Bootcamp at affiliatebootcamp.com

It's just $7 to get started on this! Clipping could be the easiest way to make money online right now… and you don’t have to have any money to get started with it - That’s why it’s so cool!

◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠


◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 1724 Andrew Carnegie: How One of the Richest Men in History Viewed Wealth and Legacy | #Success - Ep. 73 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you inside my collection to talk about one of the most influential men in history… Andrew Carnegie. At one time, he was the richest man in the world, and his ideas shaped generations of entrepreneurs and thinkers, including Napoleon Hill. I share some rare books and artifacts from Carnegie, including a signed copy of Around the World and a first edition of The Gospel of Wealth. But more importantly, I unpack the lessons from The Gospel of Wealth, an essay that had the biggest impact on me from Carnegie’s work. He believed that dying rich was a disgrace, and that wealth should be used to build opportunities for others, not just handed down. I contrast his philosophy with Ayn Rand’s views, and talk about how those ideas play out in business today, especially when it comes to philanthropy, profits, and building something that lasts. Key Highlights: ◼️ How Andrew Carnegie influenced Napoleon Hill and Think and Grow Rich ◼️ The core message of The Gospel of Wealth and why it matters today ◼️ How I realized Ayn Rand’s philosophy and Carnegie’s approach to giving were actually similar and not contradicting each other ◼️ Why charity tied to strong offers works better than guilt-driven giving ◼️ Lessons from Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Vanderbilt on building generational wealth By the end, you’ll see why Carnegie’s vision for wealth still applies to entrepreneurs today, and how you can use these lessons in your own business and life. And if you want my notes from this essay, you can find them below! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you inside my collection to talk about one of the most influential men in history… Andrew Carnegie. At one time, he was the richest man in the world, and his ideas shaped generations of entrepreneurs and thinkers, including Napoleon Hill. I share some rare books and artifacts from Carnegie, including a signed copy of Around the World and a first edition of The Gospel of Wealth. But more importantly, I unpack the lessons from The Gospel of Wealth, an essay that had the biggest impact on me from Carnegie’s work. He believed that dying rich was a disgrace, and that wealth should be used to build opportunities for others, not just handed down. I contrast his philosophy with Ayn Rand’s views, and talk about how those ideas play out in business today, especially when it comes to philanthropy, profits, and building something that lasts. Key Highlights: ◼️ How Andrew Carnegie influenced Napoleon Hill and Think and Grow Rich ◼️ The core message of The Gospel of Wealth and why it matters today ◼️ How I realized Ayn Rand’s philosophy and Carnegie’s approach to giving were actually similar and not contradicting each other ◼️ Why charity tied to strong offers works better than guilt-driven giving ◼️ Lessons from Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Vanderbilt on building generational wealth By the end, you’ll see why Carnegie’s vision for wealth still applies to entrepreneurs today, and how you can use these lessons in your own business and life. And if you want my notes from this essay, you can find them below! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you inside my collection to talk about one of the most influential men in history… Andrew Carnegie. At one time, he was the richest man in the world, and his ideas shaped generations of entrepreneurs and thinkers, including Napoleon Hill. I share some rare books and artifacts from Carnegie, including a signed copy of Around the World and a first edition of The Gospel of Wealth.

But more importantly, I unpack the lessons from The Gospel of Wealth, an essay that had the biggest impact on me from Carnegie’s work. He believed that dying rich was a disgrace, and that wealth should be used to build opportunities for others, not just handed down. I contrast his philosophy with Ayn Rand’s views, and talk about how those ideas play out in business today, especially when it comes to philanthropy, profits, and building something that lasts.

Key Highlights:

◼️ How Andrew Carnegie influenced Napoleon Hill and Think and Grow Rich

◼️ The core message of The Gospel of Wealth and why it matters today

◼️ How I realized Ayn Rand’s philosophy and Carnegie’s approach to giving were actually similar and not contradicting each other

◼️ Why charity tied to strong offers works better than guilt-driven giving

◼️ Lessons from Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Vanderbilt on building generational wealth


By the end, you’ll see why Carnegie’s vision for wealth still applies to entrepreneurs today, and how you can use these lessons in your own business and life. And if you want my notes from this essay, you can find them below!

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 759 How To Turn Your Framework Into an Irresistible Offer With Offerlab | #Marketing - Ep. 72 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, it’s the third and final Offer Lab session where I walk you through the piece that ties everything together: becoming an offer creator. If you’ve ever thought you didn’t have anything to sell, or worried that creating an offer was too complicated, this presentation will show you how simple it really is. I break down the process I’ve used over and over again, and the same process you can use to package your story, your expertise, or even someone else’s framework into something valuable. This is the shift that separates affiliates who make a little money from entrepreneurs who build something lasting. Once you understand how to reverse engineer your journey into a step-by-step map, you’ll see that you already hold the most valuable thing you could ever sell. And if you don’t yet have your own framework, I’ll show you the shortcuts that make it possible to create one today. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why the most successful people in OfferLab are both affiliates and offer owners ◼️ The step-by-step method to turn your personal journey into a framework ◼️ How packaging changes perceived value (same content, different forms) ◼️ Options if you don’t yet have a framework… Partnering or interviewing experts ◼️ The Course Secrets bonus that helps you structure and launch your first offer This presentation is about clarity and action. Stop overcomplicating the process, because you already have (or can quickly create) a framework worth sharing. When you step into the role of an offer owner, you move from just promoting to building something that can grow, scale, and last. OfferLab gives you the tools, but it starts with you creating your offer. Check out ⁠⁠offerlablaunch.com/go⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, it’s the third and final Offer Lab session where I walk you through the piece that ties everything together: becoming an offer creator. If you’ve ever thought you didn’t have anything to sell, or worried that creating an offer was too complicated, this presentation will show you how simple it really is. I break down the process I’ve used over and over again, and the same process you can use to package your story, your expertise, or even someone else’s framework into something valuable. This is the shift that separates affiliates who make a little money from entrepreneurs who build something lasting. Once you understand how to reverse engineer your journey into a step-by-step map, you’ll see that you already hold the most valuable thing you could ever sell. And if you don’t yet have your own framework, I’ll show you the shortcuts that make it possible to create one today. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why the most successful people in OfferLab are both affiliates and offer owners ◼️ The step-by-step method to turn your personal journey into a framework ◼️ How packaging changes perceived value (same content, different forms) ◼️ Options if you don’t yet have a framework… Partnering or interviewing experts ◼️ The Course Secrets bonus that helps you structure and launch your first offer This presentation is about clarity and action. Stop overcomplicating the process, because you already have (or can quickly create) a framework worth sharing. When you step into the role of an offer owner, you move from just promoting to building something that can grow, scale, and last. OfferLab gives you the tools, but it starts with you creating your offer. Check out ⁠⁠offerlablaunch.com/go⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, it’s the third and final Offer Lab session where I walk you through the piece that ties everything together: becoming an offer creator. If you’ve ever thought you didn’t have anything to sell, or worried that creating an offer was too complicated, this presentation will show you how simple it really is. I break down the process I’ve used over and over again, and the same process you can use to package your story, your expertise, or even someone else’s framework into something valuable.

This is the shift that separates affiliates who make a little money from entrepreneurs who build something lasting. Once you understand how to reverse engineer your journey into a step-by-step map, you’ll see that you already hold the most valuable thing you could ever sell. And if you don’t yet have your own framework, I’ll show you the shortcuts that make it possible to create one today.

Key Highlights:

◼️ Why the most successful people in OfferLab are both affiliates and offer owners

◼️ The step-by-step method to turn your personal journey into a framework

◼️ How packaging changes perceived value (same content, different forms)

◼️ Options if you don’t yet have a framework… Partnering or interviewing experts

◼️ The Course Secrets bonus that helps you structure and launch your first offer

This presentation is about clarity and action. Stop overcomplicating the process, because you already have (or can quickly create) a framework worth sharing. When you step into the role of an offer owner, you move from just promoting to building something that can grow, scale, and last. OfferLab gives you the tools, but it starts with you creating your offer.


Check out ⁠⁠offerlablaunch.com/go⁠⁠


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 1728 Four Ways To Make Money With OfferLab Without Relying On Ads | #Marketing - Ep. 71 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing my second OfferLab session where  I break down the four super simple and easy ways to make money on the platform. If you feel overwhelmed by all the possibilities, this will simplify everything. I walk through the core plays I use, why they work, and how to set them up fast so you can start earning without chasing expensive traffic. You will see how the marketplace actually works and the simple tools that let you build funnels in minutes. I also explain the referral structure so you can earn by connecting the right people, even if you are just getting started. Key Highlights: ◼️ The four core ways to earn in OfferLab: affiliate, offer owner, the combo, and broker ◼️ How to list offers so you attract affiliates in the marketplace ◼️ How to clone pages you already have an have them up and available on OfferLab in minutes ◼️ And I even talk about how you can take a shortcut and get to super affiliate status ASAP OfferLab is built to make selling collaborative again. Start with the simplest play you can execute today, then add the others as you go. When you combine creating offers, promoting great offers, and connecting the right partners, the platform does the heavy lifting and you can grow without depending on paid ads! It’s insane! Check out ⁠offerlablaunch.com/go ⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing my second OfferLab session where  I break down the four super simple and easy ways to make money on the platform. If you feel overwhelmed by all the possibilities, this will simplify everything. I walk through the core plays I use, why they work, and how to set them up fast so you can start earning without chasing expensive traffic. You will see how the marketplace actually works and the simple tools that let you build funnels in minutes. I also explain the referral structure so you can earn by connecting the right people, even if you are just getting started. Key Highlights: ◼️ The four core ways to earn in OfferLab: affiliate, offer owner, the combo, and broker ◼️ How to list offers so you attract affiliates in the marketplace ◼️ How to clone pages you already have an have them up and available on OfferLab in minutes ◼️ And I even talk about how you can take a shortcut and get to super affiliate status ASAP OfferLab is built to make selling collaborative again. Start with the simplest play you can execute today, then add the others as you go. When you combine creating offers, promoting great offers, and connecting the right partners, the platform does the heavy lifting and you can grow without depending on paid ads! It’s insane! Check out ⁠offerlablaunch.com/go ⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing my second OfferLab session where  I break down the four super simple and easy ways to make money on the platform. If you feel overwhelmed by all the possibilities, this will simplify everything. I walk through the core plays I use, why they work, and how to set them up fast so you can start earning without chasing expensive traffic.

You will see how the marketplace actually works and the simple tools that let you build funnels in minutes. I also explain the referral structure so you can earn by connecting the right people, even if you are just getting started.

Key Highlights:

◼️ The four core ways to earn in OfferLab: affiliate, offer owner, the combo, and broker

◼️ How to list offers so you attract affiliates in the marketplace

◼️ How to clone pages you already have an have them up and available on OfferLab in minutes

◼️ And I even talk about how you can take a shortcut and get to super affiliate status ASAP


OfferLab is built to make selling collaborative again. Start with the simplest play you can execute today, then add the others as you go. When you combine creating offers, promoting great offers, and connecting the right partners, the platform does the heavy lifting and you can grow without depending on paid ads! It’s insane!

Check out ⁠offerlablaunch.com/go

⁠

◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 2105 The Overlooked “Old Way” to Sell That OfferLab Brings Back! | #Sales - Ep. 70 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you back to the beginning — before Facebook ads, before TikTok, before algorithms controlled everything. I share how we grew businesses in the early days, and how those same principles helped ClickFunnels scale to $10 million before we ever ran a single paid ad. This is the foundation behind Offer Lab. It’s about partnerships, collaborations, and creating results together instead of relying on expensive, unpredictable traffic platforms. I’ll show you why this shift is the future, and how remembering what worked in the past can unlock everything you’re building today. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why relying on one ad platform is the biggest risk ◼️ The pre-Facebook strategies that still work today ◼️ How partnerships and co-branded products drive lasting growth ◼️ Why Offer Lab was built to make collaboration simple The truth is, traffic costs are only going up. But collaboration will always win. If you’ve been frustrated with ads, algorithms, or trying to do business alone, this episode will reframe what’s possible and show you a path forward that’s simpler, faster, and way more fun!! Check out offerlablaunch.com/go ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you back to the beginning — before Facebook ads, before TikTok, before algorithms controlled everything. I share how we grew businesses in the early days, and how those same principles helped ClickFunnels scale to $10 million before we ever ran a single paid ad. This is the foundation behind Offer Lab. It’s about partnerships, collaborations, and creating results together instead of relying on expensive, unpredictable traffic platforms. I’ll show you why this shift is the future, and how remembering what worked in the past can unlock everything you’re building today. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why relying on one ad platform is the biggest risk ◼️ The pre-Facebook strategies that still work today ◼️ How partnerships and co-branded products drive lasting growth ◼️ Why Offer Lab was built to make collaboration simple The truth is, traffic costs are only going up. But collaboration will always win. If you’ve been frustrated with ads, algorithms, or trying to do business alone, this episode will reframe what’s possible and show you a path forward that’s simpler, faster, and way more fun!! Check out offerlablaunch.com/go ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you back to the beginning — before Facebook ads, before TikTok, before algorithms controlled everything. I share how we grew businesses in the early days, and how those same principles helped ClickFunnels scale to $10 million before we ever ran a single paid ad.

This is the foundation behind Offer Lab. It’s about partnerships, collaborations, and creating results together instead of relying on expensive, unpredictable traffic platforms. I’ll show you why this shift is the future, and how remembering what worked in the past can unlock everything you’re building today.

Key Highlights:

◼️ Why relying on one ad platform is the biggest risk

◼️ The pre-Facebook strategies that still work today

◼️ How partnerships and co-branded products drive lasting growth

◼️ Why Offer Lab was built to make collaboration simple


The truth is, traffic costs are only going up. But collaboration will always win. If you’ve been frustrated with ads, algorithms, or trying to do business alone, this episode will reframe what’s possible and show you a path forward that’s simpler, faster, and way more fun!!

Check out offerlablaunch.com/go


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️ Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 2248 Discovering Laws of Success From The Book That Inspired Napoleon Hill | #Success - Ep. 69 In this vault episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of the rarest book sets I’ve ever purchased: Allen’s Working Plan, written by Irving Allen nearly a decade before Napoleon Hill published The Law of Success. This ten-volume set was sold through direct mail in the early 1900’s, and it gives us a fascinating look at what business leaders and marketers were studying long before Hill’s ideas took off. I’ll tell the story of how I discovered this set, why I paid $30,000 for it, and what makes it such a powerful piece of history. You’ll also hear the lessons that stood out most to me… Lessons that still apply today if you want to seize opportunities, build confidence, and lead others. Key Highlights: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ How optimism, positivity, and even a healthy ego give entrepreneurs the edge to lead and win ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The Andrew Carnegie quote that explains why belief in yourself (even in private) is critical for success ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The concept of “cycling” instead of failure, and why great entrepreneurs must go through it ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The balance between humility outwardly and the inner belief that you’re superior when competing in business This book reminded me that success isn’t just about tactics. It’s about mindset! The daily recognition of opportunity, the willingness to stay humble, and the inner drive to believe you can win. These timeless lessons gave me clarity and fuel for my own journey, and I think they can do the same for you. If you want my full notes on Allen’s Working Plan, including the best takeaways from each booklet, go to russellbrunson.com/notes to grab them for free!! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this vault episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of the rarest book sets I’ve ever purchased: Allen’s Working Plan, written by Irving Allen nearly a decade before Napoleon Hill published The Law of Success. This ten-volume set was sold through direct mail in the early 1900’s, and it gives us a fascinating look at what business leaders and marketers were studying long before Hill’s ideas took off. I’ll tell the story of how I discovered this set, why I paid $30,000 for it, and what makes it such a powerful piece of history. You’ll also hear the lessons that stood out most to me… Lessons that still apply today if you want to seize opportunities, build confidence, and lead others. Key Highlights: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ How optimism, positivity, and even a healthy ego give entrepreneurs the edge to lead and win ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The Andrew Carnegie quote that explains why belief in yourself (even in private) is critical for success ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The concept of “cycling” instead of failure, and why great entrepreneurs must go through it ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The balance between humility outwardly and the inner belief that you’re superior when competing in business This book reminded me that success isn’t just about tactics. It’s about mindset! The daily recognition of opportunity, the willingness to stay humble, and the inner drive to believe you can win. These timeless lessons gave me clarity and fuel for my own journey, and I think they can do the same for you. If you want my full notes on Allen’s Working Plan, including the best takeaways from each booklet, go to russellbrunson.com/notes to grab them for free!! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this vault episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of the rarest book sets I’ve ever purchased: Allen’s Working Plan, written by Irving Allen nearly a decade before Napoleon Hill published The Law of Success. This ten-volume set was sold through direct mail in the early 1900’s, and it gives us a fascinating look at what business leaders and marketers were studying long before Hill’s ideas took off.

I’ll tell the story of how I discovered this set, why I paid $30,000 for it, and what makes it such a powerful piece of history. You’ll also hear the lessons that stood out most to me… Lessons that still apply today if you want to seize opportunities, build confidence, and lead others.

Key Highlights:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ How optimism, positivity, and even a healthy ego give entrepreneurs the edge to lead and win

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The Andrew Carnegie quote that explains why belief in yourself (even in private) is critical for success

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The concept of “cycling” instead of failure, and why great entrepreneurs must go through it

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The balance between humility outwardly and the inner belief that you’re superior when competing in business

This book reminded me that success isn’t just about tactics. It’s about mindset! The daily recognition of opportunity, the willingness to stay humble, and the inner drive to believe you can win. These timeless lessons gave me clarity and fuel for my own journey, and I think they can do the same for you.

If you want my full notes on Allen’s Working Plan, including the best takeaways from each booklet, go to russellbrunson.com/notes to grab them for free!!


⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 944 Secrets of Autosuggestion: Emile Coué’s Thoughts on Reprogramming Your Mind | #Success - Ep. 68 In this vault episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I pull out a rare book from Emile Coué, the man who pioneered the idea of autosuggestion. Long before Napoleon Hill and other New Thought leaders, Coué was teaching how to reprogram the subconscious mind, and the same principles still drive personal growth and persuasion today. I’ll walk you through the difference between thoughts, outside suggestions, and the practice of autosuggestion… And why the third is the key to real transformation. You’ll hear Coué’s most famous daily phrase, why it works so powerfully, and how this one simple tool can change your mindset, your habits, and even the way you sell. Key Highlights: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The difference between thoughts, outside suggestions, and intentional autosuggestions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ Why autosuggestion works better than affirmations your brain doesn’t believe ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The exact phrase Coué taught his students to repeat daily… ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ Real examples of how I weave in ‘hypnotic’ autosuggestions into my sales presentations and webinars Coué’s method isn’t just about positive thinking… It’s about taking control of what your subconscious mind believes. When you understand how suggestions shape beliefs, you can use them to transform yourself and to influence others in a powerful, ethical way. This episode connects the dots between a century-old book and the presentations, pitches, and funnels we use today!! It’s insane! You’ll love it!  If you want my notes on the Coué method and a printable version of his daily autosuggestion quote, go to russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠ and grab it for free!! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this vault episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I pull out a rare book from Emile Coué, the man who pioneered the idea of autosuggestion. Long before Napoleon Hill and other New Thought leaders, Coué was teaching how to reprogram the subconscious mind, and the same principles still drive personal growth and persuasion today. I’ll walk you through the difference between thoughts, outside suggestions, and the practice of autosuggestion… And why the third is the key to real transformation. You’ll hear Coué’s most famous daily phrase, why it works so powerfully, and how this one simple tool can change your mindset, your habits, and even the way you sell. Key Highlights: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The difference between thoughts, outside suggestions, and intentional autosuggestions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ Why autosuggestion works better than affirmations your brain doesn’t believe ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The exact phrase Coué taught his students to repeat daily… ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ Real examples of how I weave in ‘hypnotic’ autosuggestions into my sales presentations and webinars Coué’s method isn’t just about positive thinking… It’s about taking control of what your subconscious mind believes. When you understand how suggestions shape beliefs, you can use them to transform yourself and to influence others in a powerful, ethical way. This episode connects the dots between a century-old book and the presentations, pitches, and funnels we use today!! It’s insane! You’ll love it!  If you want my notes on the Coué method and a printable version of his daily autosuggestion quote, go to russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠ and grab it for free!! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this vault episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I pull out a rare book from Emile Coué, the man who pioneered the idea of autosuggestion. Long before Napoleon Hill and other New Thought leaders, Coué was teaching how to reprogram the subconscious mind, and the same principles still drive personal growth and persuasion today.

I’ll walk you through the difference between thoughts, outside suggestions, and the practice of autosuggestion… And why the third is the key to real transformation. You’ll hear Coué’s most famous daily phrase, why it works so powerfully, and how this one simple tool can change your mindset, your habits, and even the way you sell.

Key Highlights:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The difference between thoughts, outside suggestions, and intentional autosuggestions

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ Why autosuggestion works better than affirmations your brain doesn’t believe

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ The exact phrase Coué taught his students to repeat daily…

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ Real examples of how I weave in ‘hypnotic’ autosuggestions into my sales presentations and webinars


Coué’s method isn’t just about positive thinking… It’s about taking control of what your subconscious mind believes. When you understand how suggestions shape beliefs, you can use them to transform yourself and to influence others in a powerful, ethical way. This episode connects the dots between a century-old book and the presentations, pitches, and funnels we use today!! It’s insane! You’ll love it! 

If you want my notes on the Coué method and a printable version of his daily autosuggestion quote, go to russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠⁠⁠ and grab it for free!!


⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 676 Offer Lab: Why Collaboration Beats Competition in Online Business | #Sales - Ep. 67 In this second ‘episode’ of the Offer Lab pre-launch series, I’m opening up about the real reason we created this platform. A year ago, I was burned out, frustrated, and honestly ready to walk away from serving this community. Competition had replaced collaboration, costs were skyrocketing, and entrepreneurship had started to feel lonely again. But in that dark season, a new vision was born… And that vision became Offer Lab. This episode is deeply personal. I share the story of where the idea came from, why it matters for every entrepreneur, and how it solves the very problems that have been holding so many of us back. You’ll hear how we went from asking “what features can we add” to asking “how do we bring everyone back together?” The answers changed everything. Key Highlights: ◼️The moment I realized the old model of online business was broken and unsustainable. ◼️How skyrocketing ad costs have crushed margins and left entrepreneurs feeling stuck. ◼️Why I believe entrepreneurship has become lonely again… And how we can fix it. ◼️The behind-the-scenes conversation with Todd Dickerson that sparked the idea for Offer Lab. ◼️How Stripe helped us make the impossible possible: instant payouts across collaborative funnels. ◼️Why Offer Lab is designed to unify all entrepreneurs, no matter what tools or platforms they use. If you’ve ever felt isolated, squeezed by ad costs, or frustrated by endless competition, this episode will give you hope. Offer Lab isn’t just about making money online. It’s about bringing back the community, collaboration, and movement that made this fun in the first place. Join me as I share why I believe this is the next big chapter for all of us… And how it can change the way you do business forever. Go to OfferLabLaunch.com to register, get your free account, and be part of this new movement with me!! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this second ‘episode’ of the Offer Lab pre-launch series, I’m opening up about the real reason we created this platform. A year ago, I was burned out, frustrated, and honestly ready to walk away from serving this community. Competition had replaced collaboration, costs were skyrocketing, and entrepreneurship had started to feel lonely again. But in that dark season, a new vision was born… And that vision became Offer Lab. This episode is deeply personal. I share the story of where the idea came from, why it matters for every entrepreneur, and how it solves the very problems that have been holding so many of us back. You’ll hear how we went from asking “what features can we add” to asking “how do we bring everyone back together?” The answers changed everything. Key Highlights: ◼️The moment I realized the old model of online business was broken and unsustainable. ◼️How skyrocketing ad costs have crushed margins and left entrepreneurs feeling stuck. ◼️Why I believe entrepreneurship has become lonely again… And how we can fix it. ◼️The behind-the-scenes conversation with Todd Dickerson that sparked the idea for Offer Lab. ◼️How Stripe helped us make the impossible possible: instant payouts across collaborative funnels. ◼️Why Offer Lab is designed to unify all entrepreneurs, no matter what tools or platforms they use. If you’ve ever felt isolated, squeezed by ad costs, or frustrated by endless competition, this episode will give you hope. Offer Lab isn’t just about making money online. It’s about bringing back the community, collaboration, and movement that made this fun in the first place. Join me as I share why I believe this is the next big chapter for all of us… And how it can change the way you do business forever. Go to OfferLabLaunch.com to register, get your free account, and be part of this new movement with me!! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this second ‘episode’ of the Offer Lab pre-launch series, I’m opening up about the real reason we created this platform. A year ago, I was burned out, frustrated, and honestly ready to walk away from serving this community. Competition had replaced collaboration, costs were skyrocketing, and entrepreneurship had started to feel lonely again. But in that dark season, a new vision was born… And that vision became Offer Lab.

This episode is deeply personal. I share the story of where the idea came from, why it matters for every entrepreneur, and how it solves the very problems that have been holding so many of us back. You’ll hear how we went from asking “what features can we add” to asking “how do we bring everyone back together?” The answers changed everything.

Key Highlights:

◼️The moment I realized the old model of online business was broken and unsustainable.

◼️How skyrocketing ad costs have crushed margins and left entrepreneurs feeling stuck.

◼️Why I believe entrepreneurship has become lonely again… And how we can fix it.

◼️The behind-the-scenes conversation with Todd Dickerson that sparked the idea for Offer Lab.

◼️How Stripe helped us make the impossible possible: instant payouts across collaborative funnels.

◼️Why Offer Lab is designed to unify all entrepreneurs, no matter what tools or platforms they use.


If you’ve ever felt isolated, squeezed by ad costs, or frustrated by endless competition, this episode will give you hope. Offer Lab isn’t just about making money online. It’s about bringing back the community, collaboration, and movement that made this fun in the first place. Join me as I share why I believe this is the next big chapter for all of us… And how it can change the way you do business forever.


Go to OfferLabLaunch.com to register, get your free account, and be part of this new movement with me!!

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 1148 Offer Lab: The New Way to Make Money Online (That’s Actually Fun Again!) | #Sales - Ep. 66 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m pulling back the curtain on something brand new that I believe represents the future of selling online: Offer Lab!!! Over the last 25 years, we’ve seen wave after wave of breakthroughs… funnels, Facebook ads, influencer marketing, TikTok shops… But now we’re hitting a point where entrepreneurship feels more like a solo sport than a community effort. That’s a problem, because business was never meant to be done alone. Offer Lab is the solution because it’s a platform built around collaboration, not competition. I’ll share why this next evolution is so powerful, how it completely changes affiliate marketing, and why collaboration is the new currency of online business. Whether you already have an offer, are just starting out as an affiliate, or want to maximize both sides, this episode will help you see what’s possible - and also get you excited to learn more about OfferLab and dive into the 17 ways it can help you earn money online even if you’ve never sold a penny online before! Key Highlights: ◼️ Why the old way of selling online is broken… and what’s replacing it. ◼️ How Offer Lab makes entrepreneurship collaborative again. ◼️ The power of “collaborative funnels” and why they’re a game changer. ◼️ Real examples of how sellers and promoters can partner instantly. ◼️ The built-in marketplace where anyone can start selling in minutes. ◼️ Why automatic payouts and shared funnels solve the biggest headaches in affiliate marketing. If you’ve ever felt stuck, isolated, or overwhelmed trying to grow your business alone, this episode will show you a new path forward. Tune in to discover how Offer Lab makes selling simpler, faster, and most importantly… Something we can do together. Go to offerlablaunch.com and get all the details! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 01 Sep 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m pulling back the curtain on something brand new that I believe represents the future of selling online: Offer Lab!!! Over the last 25 years, we’ve seen wave after wave of breakthroughs… funnels, Facebook ads, influencer marketing, TikTok shops… But now we’re hitting a point where entrepreneurship feels more like a solo sport than a community effort. That’s a problem, because business was never meant to be done alone. Offer Lab is the solution because it’s a platform built around collaboration, not competition. I’ll share why this next evolution is so powerful, how it completely changes affiliate marketing, and why collaboration is the new currency of online business. Whether you already have an offer, are just starting out as an affiliate, or want to maximize both sides, this episode will help you see what’s possible - and also get you excited to learn more about OfferLab and dive into the 17 ways it can help you earn money online even if you’ve never sold a penny online before! Key Highlights: ◼️ Why the old way of selling online is broken… and what’s replacing it. ◼️ How Offer Lab makes entrepreneurship collaborative again. ◼️ The power of “collaborative funnels” and why they’re a game changer. ◼️ Real examples of how sellers and promoters can partner instantly. ◼️ The built-in marketplace where anyone can start selling in minutes. ◼️ Why automatic payouts and shared funnels solve the biggest headaches in affiliate marketing. If you’ve ever felt stuck, isolated, or overwhelmed trying to grow your business alone, this episode will show you a new path forward. Tune in to discover how Offer Lab makes selling simpler, faster, and most importantly… Something we can do together. Go to offerlablaunch.com and get all the details! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m pulling back the curtain on something brand new that I believe represents the future of selling online: Offer Lab!!! Over the last 25 years, we’ve seen wave after wave of breakthroughs… funnels, Facebook ads, influencer marketing, TikTok shops… But now we’re hitting a point where entrepreneurship feels more like a solo sport than a community effort. That’s a problem, because business was never meant to be done alone. Offer Lab is the solution because it’s a platform built around collaboration, not competition.

I’ll share why this next evolution is so powerful, how it completely changes affiliate marketing, and why collaboration is the new currency of online business. Whether you already have an offer, are just starting out as an affiliate, or want to maximize both sides, this episode will help you see what’s possible - and also get you excited to learn more about OfferLab and dive into the 17 ways it can help you earn money online even if you’ve never sold a penny online before!

Key Highlights:

◼️ Why the old way of selling online is broken… and what’s replacing it.

◼️ How Offer Lab makes entrepreneurship collaborative again.

◼️ The power of “collaborative funnels” and why they’re a game changer.

◼️ Real examples of how sellers and promoters can partner instantly.

◼️ The built-in marketplace where anyone can start selling in minutes.

◼️ Why automatic payouts and shared funnels solve the biggest headaches in affiliate marketing.


If you’ve ever felt stuck, isolated, or overwhelmed trying to grow your business alone, this episode will show you a new path forward. Tune in to discover how Offer Lab makes selling simpler, faster, and most importantly… Something we can do together.

Go to offerlablaunch.com and get all the details!

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 1301 Building a Brand Bigger Than Yourself: Bridget James Ling on Movement Marketing | #Marketing - Ep. 65 Bridget James Ling has built something incredible in just a few short years. She went from quitting her job in 2020, flying to Costa Rica, and barely affording a Funnel Hacking Live ticket… to leading Freedom Queen, a movement that now fills events with hundreds of women entrepreneurs. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, she walks through exactly how she made the shift from “just a coach” to a true movement leader, and why that shift changed everything. Key Highlights: ◼️How Bridget transformed her coaching business into Freedom Queen by building an identity and movement around her clients. ◼️The story of her first retreat in Costa Rica and how she sold a $12K offer that proved the power of movements. ◼️Why she believes movements scale faster than coaching, and how she shifted her marketing from “work with me” to “become a Freedom Queen.” ◼️The reality of online hate, how it almost broke her, and the mindset shift that made her stronger. ◼️Behind the scenes of filling her events with hundreds of women using affiliates, vision-casting, and status-driven incentives. Bridget’s journey is proof that when you stop selling your time and start leading a movement, everything changes. Her story is inspiring, raw, and filled with lessons for anyone who feels called to lead. Whether you’re building your first group program or planning to fill a stadium someday, the marketing and sales principles she shares will challenge and motivate you to think bigger. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Bridget James Ling has built something incredible in just a few short years. She went from quitting her job in 2020, flying to Costa Rica, and barely affording a Funnel Hacking Live ticket… to leading Freedom Queen, a movement that now fills events with hundreds of women entrepreneurs. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, she walks through exactly how she made the shift from “just a coach” to a true movement leader, and why that shift changed everything. Key Highlights: ◼️How Bridget transformed her coaching business into Freedom Queen by building an identity and movement around her clients. ◼️The story of her first retreat in Costa Rica and how she sold a $12K offer that proved the power of movements. ◼️Why she believes movements scale faster than coaching, and how she shifted her marketing from “work with me” to “become a Freedom Queen.” ◼️The reality of online hate, how it almost broke her, and the mindset shift that made her stronger. ◼️Behind the scenes of filling her events with hundreds of women using affiliates, vision-casting, and status-driven incentives. Bridget’s journey is proof that when you stop selling your time and start leading a movement, everything changes. Her story is inspiring, raw, and filled with lessons for anyone who feels called to lead. Whether you’re building your first group program or planning to fill a stadium someday, the marketing and sales principles she shares will challenge and motivate you to think bigger. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Bridget James Ling has built something incredible in just a few short years. She went from quitting her job in 2020, flying to Costa Rica, and barely affording a Funnel Hacking Live ticket… to leading Freedom Queen, a movement that now fills events with hundreds of women entrepreneurs. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, she walks through exactly how she made the shift from “just a coach” to a true movement leader, and why that shift changed everything.

Key Highlights:

◼️How Bridget transformed her coaching business into Freedom Queen by building an identity and movement around her clients.

◼️The story of her first retreat in Costa Rica and how she sold a $12K offer that proved the power of movements.

◼️Why she believes movements scale faster than coaching, and how she shifted her marketing from “work with me” to “become a Freedom Queen.”

◼️The reality of online hate, how it almost broke her, and the mindset shift that made her stronger.

◼️Behind the scenes of filling her events with hundreds of women using affiliates, vision-casting, and status-driven incentives.


Bridget’s journey is proof that when you stop selling your time and start leading a movement, everything changes. Her story is inspiring, raw, and filled with lessons for anyone who feels called to lead. Whether you’re building your first group program or planning to fill a stadium someday, the marketing and sales principles she shares will challenge and motivate you to think bigger.


⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2074 Keaton "The Muscle" Hoskins Reveals the Mindset Behind His Biggest Wins | #Success - Ep. 64 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my good friend Keaton "The Muscle" Hoskins. You probably know him from Diesel Brothers or social media, but what I love most is the way he approaches life, business, and family. Keaton has built, bought, and scaled companies across different industries, but behind all the big wins is a story of fear, faith, and following through on a promise he made to his dad. We talk about the unexpected paths that opened up for him… From social media experiments that went viral, to national TV exposure, to creating Limitless Society as a platform for personal and business growth. He also shares how staying present, creating proof in small ways, and investing in health have shaped the way he shows up for his mission today. Key Highlights: ◼️How Keaton turned a fear of flying into a love of helicopters and a tool for presence ◼️The promise he made to his father that fueled his drive to build businesses ◼️How social media skits and giveaways led to Diesel Brothers and Discovery Channel ◼️The simple marketing playbook he uses to grow and buy companies ◼️Why Limitless Society focuses on building better people first ◼️How small, intimate events can create deeper impact ◼️His personal health journey with peptides and new approaches to energy Keaton’s story is about taking massive action, learning by doing, and never backing down from the work it takes to grow. Whether you’re building your first company, leading a community, or trying to balance business with family, you’ll find lessons here that can inspire you to keep moving forward! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my good friend Keaton "The Muscle" Hoskins. You probably know him from Diesel Brothers or social media, but what I love most is the way he approaches life, business, and family. Keaton has built, bought, and scaled companies across different industries, but behind all the big wins is a story of fear, faith, and following through on a promise he made to his dad. We talk about the unexpected paths that opened up for him… From social media experiments that went viral, to national TV exposure, to creating Limitless Society as a platform for personal and business growth. He also shares how staying present, creating proof in small ways, and investing in health have shaped the way he shows up for his mission today. Key Highlights: ◼️How Keaton turned a fear of flying into a love of helicopters and a tool for presence ◼️The promise he made to his father that fueled his drive to build businesses ◼️How social media skits and giveaways led to Diesel Brothers and Discovery Channel ◼️The simple marketing playbook he uses to grow and buy companies ◼️Why Limitless Society focuses on building better people first ◼️How small, intimate events can create deeper impact ◼️His personal health journey with peptides and new approaches to energy Keaton’s story is about taking massive action, learning by doing, and never backing down from the work it takes to grow. Whether you’re building your first company, leading a community, or trying to balance business with family, you’ll find lessons here that can inspire you to keep moving forward! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my good friend Keaton "The Muscle" Hoskins. You probably know him from Diesel Brothers or social media, but what I love most is the way he approaches life, business, and family. Keaton has built, bought, and scaled companies across different industries, but behind all the big wins is a story of fear, faith, and following through on a promise he made to his dad.

We talk about the unexpected paths that opened up for him… From social media experiments that went viral, to national TV exposure, to creating Limitless Society as a platform for personal and business growth. He also shares how staying present, creating proof in small ways, and investing in health have shaped the way he shows up for his mission today.

Key Highlights:

◼️How Keaton turned a fear of flying into a love of helicopters and a tool for presence

◼️The promise he made to his father that fueled his drive to build businesses

◼️How social media skits and giveaways led to Diesel Brothers and Discovery Channel

◼️The simple marketing playbook he uses to grow and buy companies

◼️Why Limitless Society focuses on building better people first

◼️How small, intimate events can create deeper impact

◼️His personal health journey with peptides and new approaches to energy


Keaton’s story is about taking massive action, learning by doing, and never backing down from the work it takes to grow. Whether you’re building your first company, leading a community, or trying to balance business with family, you’ll find lessons here that can inspire you to keep moving forward!


⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2228 Little Marketing Tweaks and Shifts That Could Unlock Big Wins | #Marketing - Ep. 63 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive back into another One Funnel Away Q&A where I answer questions from entrepreneurs who are in the trenches, building and testing funnels in real time. I love these sessions because they show me exactly where people are stuck, and I get to share the frameworks and stories that have worked for me over the years. Key Highlights: ◼️Use a price marinade on day one to anchor higher value before your main offer ◼️Three-day challenge flow: Day 1 content with a VIP repitch, Day 2 Perfect Webinar, Day 3 repitch with logic and a heart close ◼️Close after the weekend and send multiple emails on the final day because a big chunk of sales land in the last hour ◼️Map the ecosystem in your niche, then create 1:1 case studies to earn proof before you scale ◼️Try Tiny Challenges one on one to produce fast, credible results ◼️As an affiliate, add energy and irresistible bonuses or run your own mini event if the host cannot close ◼️Be fully present in each block of your day so your work actually counts; a simple time audit will expose where time leaks These Q&As are always a reminder that business success doesn’t come from having everything perfect on day one. It’s about doing the work, putting yourself out there, and learning as you go. I hope this episode gives you some ‘a-ha’ moments and encouragement for wherever you’re at on your journey! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive back into another One Funnel Away Q&A where I answer questions from entrepreneurs who are in the trenches, building and testing funnels in real time. I love these sessions because they show me exactly where people are stuck, and I get to share the frameworks and stories that have worked for me over the years. Key Highlights: ◼️Use a price marinade on day one to anchor higher value before your main offer ◼️Three-day challenge flow: Day 1 content with a VIP repitch, Day 2 Perfect Webinar, Day 3 repitch with logic and a heart close ◼️Close after the weekend and send multiple emails on the final day because a big chunk of sales land in the last hour ◼️Map the ecosystem in your niche, then create 1:1 case studies to earn proof before you scale ◼️Try Tiny Challenges one on one to produce fast, credible results ◼️As an affiliate, add energy and irresistible bonuses or run your own mini event if the host cannot close ◼️Be fully present in each block of your day so your work actually counts; a simple time audit will expose where time leaks These Q&As are always a reminder that business success doesn’t come from having everything perfect on day one. It’s about doing the work, putting yourself out there, and learning as you go. I hope this episode gives you some ‘a-ha’ moments and encouragement for wherever you’re at on your journey! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive back into another One Funnel Away Q&A where I answer questions from entrepreneurs who are in the trenches, building and testing funnels in real time. I love these sessions because they show me exactly where people are stuck, and I get to share the frameworks and stories that have worked for me over the years.

Key Highlights:

◼️Use a price marinade on day one to anchor higher value before your main offer

◼️Three-day challenge flow: Day 1 content with a VIP repitch, Day 2 Perfect Webinar, Day 3 repitch with logic and a heart close

◼️Close after the weekend and send multiple emails on the final day because a big chunk of sales land in the last hour

◼️Map the ecosystem in your niche, then create 1:1 case studies to earn proof before you scale

◼️Try Tiny Challenges one on one to produce fast, credible results

◼️As an affiliate, add energy and irresistible bonuses or run your own mini event if the host cannot close

◼️Be fully present in each block of your day so your work actually counts; a simple time audit will expose where time leaks


These Q&As are always a reminder that business success doesn’t come from having everything perfect on day one. It’s about doing the work, putting yourself out there, and learning as you go. I hope this episode gives you some ‘a-ha’ moments and encouragement for wherever you’re at on your journey!


⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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]]> 3082 What Orison Swett Marden and Success Magazine Can Teach About Perseverance | #Success - Ep. 62 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into one of the rarest treasures in my collection… The very first issue of Success Magazine from December 1897! And the coolest thing is that the story behind this is insanely inspiring! This was more than just a magazine. It marked the beginning of the personal development movement in America. Its founder, Orison Swett Marden, overcame enormous challenges to publish that first issue, and his story has deeply inspired me during some of my own most difficult seasons in business. Key Highlights: ◼️The story behind Success Magazine and its role in shaping the personal development movement ◼️The obstacles Orison Swett Marden faced to publish the inaugural issue ◼️How Marden’s perseverance gave me perspective and strength in my own entrepreneurial journey ◼️A look inside the 1897 issue and its early success principles ◼️Why Marden’s mission to change lives still matters today For me, this first issue is a reminder that persistence and belief in a mission can carry you through any challenge. Marden’s story has fueled my determination, and it can inspire you too! Wherever you are and whatever challenges you face, his example proves that one person’s vision can change everything! And, if you’re interested in learning more about what’s inside this first issue of Success Magazine, I’m putting a link below so you can see my notes and thoughts about all the articles and ads in this rare first edition! Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into one of the rarest treasures in my collection… The very first issue of Success Magazine from December 1897! And the coolest thing is that the story behind this is insanely inspiring! This was more than just a magazine. It marked the beginning of the personal development movement in America. Its founder, Orison Swett Marden, overcame enormous challenges to publish that first issue, and his story has deeply inspired me during some of my own most difficult seasons in business. Key Highlights: ◼️The story behind Success Magazine and its role in shaping the personal development movement ◼️The obstacles Orison Swett Marden faced to publish the inaugural issue ◼️How Marden’s perseverance gave me perspective and strength in my own entrepreneurial journey ◼️A look inside the 1897 issue and its early success principles ◼️Why Marden’s mission to change lives still matters today For me, this first issue is a reminder that persistence and belief in a mission can carry you through any challenge. Marden’s story has fueled my determination, and it can inspire you too! Wherever you are and whatever challenges you face, his example proves that one person’s vision can change everything! And, if you’re interested in learning more about what’s inside this first issue of Success Magazine, I’m putting a link below so you can see my notes and thoughts about all the articles and ads in this rare first edition! Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into one of the rarest treasures in my collection… The very first issue of Success Magazine from December 1897! And the coolest thing is that the story behind this is insanely inspiring!

This was more than just a magazine. It marked the beginning of the personal development movement in America. Its founder, Orison Swett Marden, overcame enormous challenges to publish that first issue, and his story has deeply inspired me during some of my own most difficult seasons in business.

Key Highlights:

◼️The story behind Success Magazine and its role in shaping the personal development movement

◼️The obstacles Orison Swett Marden faced to publish the inaugural issue

◼️How Marden’s perseverance gave me perspective and strength in my own entrepreneurial journey

◼️A look inside the 1897 issue and its early success principles

◼️Why Marden’s mission to change lives still matters today


For me, this first issue is a reminder that persistence and belief in a mission can carry you through any challenge. Marden’s story has fueled my determination, and it can inspire you too!

Wherever you are and whatever challenges you face, his example proves that one person’s vision can change everything!

And, if you’re interested in learning more about what’s inside this first issue of Success Magazine, I’m putting a link below so you can see my notes and thoughts about all the articles and ads in this rare first edition!


Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠⁠

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]]> 1166 When Your Ceiling Becomes Your Floor: The Hero’s Journey to Your Next Level | #Success - Ep. 61 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m taking you back to the old-school “marketing in the car” days - recording behind the wheel on my way to a Prime Mover event here in Boise. Before I get into business, I share a recent family adventure - an Alaskan cruise to celebrate my parents’ 50th anniversary - and a surprising rabbit hole I fell into after watching Titanic on the ship. That led to a fascinating question: if you could watch any moment from history as if it were on tape, what would you choose? From there, I shift gears into the core message I’m bringing to the Prime Mover group: the real meaning of the hero’s journey, and why the skills, habits, and patterns that get you to one level in life or business often become the very things holding you back from the next. Whether you’re going from zero to a million, a million to ten, or ten to a hundred, each leap requires you to “burn down” the old way and rebuild yourself from the ground up. Key Highlights: ◼️How an Alaskan cruise, Titanic, and a thought experiment led to a powerful question about perspective ◼️The “heavenly blockbuster” concept: replaying moments from history - or your own life ◼️Why the hero’s journey always starts with being unqualified for the challenge ahead ◼️How your subconscious ceiling becomes your subconscious floor - and why that’s both good and bad ◼️Wrestling stories that reveal the painful but necessary process of leveling up ◼️The dangerous comfort of your “ordinary world” and how to step beyond it Bottom line: Growth is a game of constant reinvention. To win, you have to be willing to let go of what made you great at the last level so you can step into the unknown and become who you need to be for the next one. This episode is both a personal reflection and a roadmap for anyone ready to answer their next call to adventure. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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That led to a fascinating question: if you could watch any moment from history as if it were on tape, what would you choose? From there, I shift gears into the core message I’m bringing to the Prime Mover group: the real meaning of the hero’s journey, and why the skills, habits, and patterns that get you to one level in life or business often become the very things holding you back from the next. Whether you’re going from zero to a million, a million to ten, or ten to a hundred, each leap requires you to “burn down” the old way and rebuild yourself from the ground up. Key Highlights: ◼️How an Alaskan cruise, Titanic, and a thought experiment led to a powerful question about perspective ◼️The “heavenly blockbuster” concept: replaying moments from history - or your own life ◼️Why the hero’s journey always starts with being unqualified for the challenge ahead ◼️How your subconscious ceiling becomes your subconscious floor - and why that’s both good and bad ◼️Wrestling stories that reveal the painful but necessary process of leveling up ◼️The dangerous comfort of your “ordinary world” and how to step beyond it Bottom line: Growth is a game of constant reinvention. To win, you have to be willing to let go of what made you great at the last level so you can step into the unknown and become who you need to be for the next one. This episode is both a personal reflection and a roadmap for anyone ready to answer their next call to adventure. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m taking you back to the old-school “marketing in the car” days - recording behind the wheel on my way to a Prime Mover event here in Boise. Before I get into business, I share a recent family adventure - an Alaskan cruise to celebrate my parents’ 50th anniversary - and a surprising rabbit hole I fell into after watching Titanic on the ship. That led to a fascinating question: if you could watch any moment from history as if it were on tape, what would you choose?

From there, I shift gears into the core message I’m bringing to the Prime Mover group: the real meaning of the hero’s journey, and why the skills, habits, and patterns that get you to one level in life or business often become the very things holding you back from the next. Whether you’re going from zero to a million, a million to ten, or ten to a hundred, each leap requires you to “burn down” the old way and rebuild yourself from the ground up.

Key Highlights:

◼️How an Alaskan cruise, Titanic, and a thought experiment led to a powerful question about perspective

◼️The “heavenly blockbuster” concept: replaying moments from history - or your own life

◼️Why the hero’s journey always starts with being unqualified for the challenge ahead

◼️How your subconscious ceiling becomes your subconscious floor - and why that’s both good and bad

◼️Wrestling stories that reveal the painful but necessary process of leveling up

◼️The dangerous comfort of your “ordinary world” and how to step beyond it


Bottom line: Growth is a game of constant reinvention. To win, you have to be willing to let go of what made you great at the last level so you can step into the unknown and become who you need to be for the next one. This episode is both a personal reflection and a roadmap for anyone ready to answer their next call to adventure.


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]]> 1027 The Questions Entrepreneurs Ask Me Most (And My Exact Answers) | #Marketing - Ep. 60 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I host a live Q&A with the One Funnel Away and Prime Mover communities, and we dive deep into some of the biggest marketing challenges entrepreneurs face. People brought me real, in-the-trenches questions about how to get more traffic to their webinars, what to do when a replay isn’t converting, and how to start scaling high-ticket offers without blowing up their ad spend. I walk through how I approach new offers inside ClickFunnels, why starting small is often the smartest play, and how to quickly create proof and momentum before trying to scale. I also share how to think about sales processes for different price points and when it makes sense to shift from an automated webinar to a sales call for maximum conversions. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most webinar replays fail and the simple process change that makes people actually watch and buy ◼️How to launch a new offer without paid ads using the Dream 100 and podcast outreach strategy ◼️When to sell directly on a webinar versus when to push leads to a sales call for higher price points ◼️The fastest way to build proof and testimonials for a brand-new program or course ◼️Why positioning yourself as a niche expert beats being a generalist if you want easier sales and higher conversions The conversations in this Q&A are packed with practical takeaways you can apply immediately. Whether you’re in the early stages of building a funnel or trying to scale to the next level, the answers here show how to create traction without relying on luck or huge budgets. If you focus on proof first, build momentum one step at a time, and use your Dream 100 to get in front of the right people, you’ll set yourself up for the kind of growth that lasts. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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I walk through how I approach new offers inside ClickFunnels, why starting small is often the smartest play, and how to quickly create proof and momentum before trying to scale. I also share how to think about sales processes for different price points and when it makes sense to shift from an automated webinar to a sales call for maximum conversions. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most webinar replays fail and the simple process change that makes people actually watch and buy ◼️How to launch a new offer without paid ads using the Dream 100 and podcast outreach strategy ◼️When to sell directly on a webinar versus when to push leads to a sales call for higher price points ◼️The fastest way to build proof and testimonials for a brand-new program or course ◼️Why positioning yourself as a niche expert beats being a generalist if you want easier sales and higher conversions The conversations in this Q&A are packed with practical takeaways you can apply immediately. Whether you’re in the early stages of building a funnel or trying to scale to the next level, the answers here show how to create traction without relying on luck or huge budgets. If you focus on proof first, build momentum one step at a time, and use your Dream 100 to get in front of the right people, you’ll set yourself up for the kind of growth that lasts. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! 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People brought me real, in-the-trenches questions about how to get more traffic to their webinars, what to do when a replay isn’t converting, and how to start scaling high-ticket offers without blowing up their ad spend.

I walk through how I approach new offers inside ClickFunnels, why starting small is often the smartest play, and how to quickly create proof and momentum before trying to scale. I also share how to think about sales processes for different price points and when it makes sense to shift from an automated webinar to a sales call for maximum conversions.

Key Highlights:

◼️Why most webinar replays fail and the simple process change that makes people actually watch and buy

◼️How to launch a new offer without paid ads using the Dream 100 and podcast outreach strategy

◼️When to sell directly on a webinar versus when to push leads to a sales call for higher price points

◼️The fastest way to build proof and testimonials for a brand-new program or course

◼️Why positioning yourself as a niche expert beats being a generalist if you want easier sales and higher conversions


The conversations in this Q&A are packed with practical takeaways you can apply immediately. Whether you’re in the early stages of building a funnel or trying to scale to the next level, the answers here show how to create traction without relying on luck or huge budgets. If you focus on proof first, build momentum one step at a time, and use your Dream 100 to get in front of the right people, you’ll set yourself up for the kind of growth that lasts.


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3633 Dissecting The Book of Life Ad Copy and Magalogue Framework by Robert Collier | #Marketing - Ep. 59 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of the coolest pieces in my collection, an original 1925 signed set of The Book of Life by Robert Collier, and the magalogue (Magazine + Catalogue) ad that sold it. Robert Collier wasn’t just an incredible author in the personal development world; he was also one of the best direct response advertisers of all time, selling more than $200 million worth of books through the mail in the 1920’s!  That’s INSANE! I break down the ad that sold this book set and why the same framework still works today. From the way he used visualization and storytelling (think Aladdin’s lamp and your own personal genie) to the powerful risk reversal and trial offer, this magalogue is a masterclass in how to sell with words. Key Highlights: ◼️How Collier’s ad opened with a powerful hook and visualization to grab attention immediately ◼️The way he layered storytelling, case studies, and benefits before ever introducing the product ◼️How he transitioned into the offer and made the book set feel like a “genie in a lamp” that could fulfill the reader’s deepest desires ◼️The risk reversal structure that made the offer irresistible (free trial, easy return, and low payments) ◼️Why the same hook–story–offer framework Collier used in print still applies to funnels, webinars, and sales letters today When you study ads like this, you see how much thought great marketers used to put into their offers. Collier couldn’t just throw up a page and run Facebook ads… He had to make the message and the offer so good people would literally mail back a postcard with their own money. Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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Robert Collier wasn’t just an incredible author in the personal development world; he was also one of the best direct response advertisers of all time, selling more than $200 million worth of books through the mail in the 1920’s!  That’s INSANE! I break down the ad that sold this book set and why the same framework still works today. From the way he used visualization and storytelling (think Aladdin’s lamp and your own personal genie) to the powerful risk reversal and trial offer, this magalogue is a masterclass in how to sell with words. Key Highlights: ◼️How Collier’s ad opened with a powerful hook and visualization to grab attention immediately ◼️The way he layered storytelling, case studies, and benefits before ever introducing the product ◼️How he transitioned into the offer and made the book set feel like a “genie in a lamp” that could fulfill the reader’s deepest desires ◼️The risk reversal structure that made the offer irresistible (free trial, easy return, and low payments) ◼️Why the same hook–story–offer framework Collier used in print still applies to funnels, webinars, and sales letters today When you study ads like this, you see how much thought great marketers used to put into their offers. Collier couldn’t just throw up a page and run Facebook ads… He had to make the message and the offer so good people would literally mail back a postcard with their own money. Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share one of the coolest pieces in my collection, an original 1925 signed set of The Book of Life by Robert Collier, and the magalogue (Magazine + Catalogue) ad that sold it. Robert Collier wasn’t just an incredible author in the personal development world; he was also one of the best direct response advertisers of all time, selling more than $200 million worth of books through the mail in the 1920’s!  That’s INSANE!

I break down the ad that sold this book set and why the same framework still works today. From the way he used visualization and storytelling (think Aladdin’s lamp and your own personal genie) to the powerful risk reversal and trial offer, this magalogue is a masterclass in how to sell with words.

Key Highlights:

◼️How Collier’s ad opened with a powerful hook and visualization to grab attention immediately

◼️The way he layered storytelling, case studies, and benefits before ever introducing the product

◼️How he transitioned into the offer and made the book set feel like a “genie in a lamp” that could fulfill the reader’s deepest desires

◼️The risk reversal structure that made the offer irresistible (free trial, easy return, and low payments)

◼️Why the same hook–story–offer framework Collier used in print still applies to funnels, webinars, and sales letters today


When you study ads like this, you see how much thought great marketers used to put into their offers. Collier couldn’t just throw up a page and run Facebook ads… He had to make the message and the offer so good people would literally mail back a postcard with their own money.


Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠


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]]> 1006 Sam Parr Reveals How He Grew The Hustle And Why You Shouldn’t Take Outside Funding | #Marketing - Ep. 58 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Sam Parr, founder of The Hustle, My First Million, and Hampton, to break down how he built and sold one of the biggest email-based media companies in the country. Sam shares how he grew The Hustle by writing viral blog posts on Reddit and converting that traffic into email subscribers, why he focused on building reach through a newsletter when everyone else was chasing social media, and the simple revenue model that made the company so profitable before selling to HubSpot. We also dig into how he’s now building Hampton, a thriving community for entrepreneurs at scale. Key Highlights: ◼️ How Sam used viral blog posts on Reddit to drive traffic and convert readers into email newsletter subscribers ◼️ The monetization model that turned The Hustle into a multi-million-dollar company through sponsorships and ads ◼️ Why he bet on building reach through an email newsletter instead of chasing short-lived social media attention ◼️ How Hampton creates curated peer groups and why operational excellence is critical to running communities at scale ◼️ The pitfalls of chasing outside funding too early and how Sam thinks about businesses that compound over decades Sam’s story shows that you don’t need complicated models or venture capital to build something big… You need a great product, a smart distribution channel, and the discipline to keep it simple. If you’re interested in building an audience, a newsletter, or a community-driven business, this episode is exactly what you’ve been searching for! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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Sam shares how he grew The Hustle by writing viral blog posts on Reddit and converting that traffic into email subscribers, why he focused on building reach through a newsletter when everyone else was chasing social media, and the simple revenue model that made the company so profitable before selling to HubSpot. We also dig into how he’s now building Hampton, a thriving community for entrepreneurs at scale. Key Highlights: ◼️ How Sam used viral blog posts on Reddit to drive traffic and convert readers into email newsletter subscribers ◼️ The monetization model that turned The Hustle into a multi-million-dollar company through sponsorships and ads ◼️ Why he bet on building reach through an email newsletter instead of chasing short-lived social media attention ◼️ How Hampton creates curated peer groups and why operational excellence is critical to running communities at scale ◼️ The pitfalls of chasing outside funding too early and how Sam thinks about businesses that compound over decades Sam’s story shows that you don’t need complicated models or venture capital to build something big… You need a great product, a smart distribution channel, and the discipline to keep it simple. If you’re interested in building an audience, a newsletter, or a community-driven business, this episode is exactly what you’ve been searching for! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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Sam shares how he grew The Hustle by writing viral blog posts on Reddit and converting that traffic into email subscribers, why he focused on building reach through a newsletter when everyone else was chasing social media, and the simple revenue model that made the company so profitable before selling to HubSpot. We also dig into how he’s now building Hampton, a thriving community for entrepreneurs at scale.

Key Highlights:

◼️ How Sam used viral blog posts on Reddit to drive traffic and convert readers into email newsletter subscribers

◼️ The monetization model that turned The Hustle into a multi-million-dollar company through sponsorships and ads

◼️ Why he bet on building reach through an email newsletter instead of chasing short-lived social media attention

◼️ How Hampton creates curated peer groups and why operational excellence is critical to running communities at scale

◼️ The pitfalls of chasing outside funding too early and how Sam thinks about businesses that compound over decades


Sam’s story shows that you don’t need complicated models or venture capital to build something big… You need a great product, a smart distribution channel, and the discipline to keep it simple. If you’re interested in building an audience, a newsletter, or a community-driven business, this episode is exactly what you’ve been searching for!

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]]> 3504 The Subconscious Mind in Business: This Book Changed How I Work Forever | #Success - Ep. 57 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into a rare book I picked up for $75 called The Subconscious Mind in Business by Robert Updegraff… The same author as Obvious Adams. It instantly became one of my favorites. The book hit me at the perfect time… Right after I tore both my biceps and literally couldn’t work. Turns out, not working may have been the key. I unpack how this book reframed the way I structure my workdays, why creative breakthroughs don’t come from forcing the issue, and how our subconscious beliefs shape the ceiling of our success. I also share stories from my own journey, from struggling to break six figures, to hitting plateaus at $1M, $10M, and beyond. And I talk about how each of those levels had less to do with tactics and everything to do with mindset. Key Highlights: ◼️The six-hour workday model and how to use the final two hours for subconscious creativity ◼️Why success is 90% psychology, and the real reason most entrepreneurs stay stuck ◼️How proximity and your environment shape your subconscious identity ◼️The hidden ceilings you don’t realize are holding you back ◼️Why creativity often strikes when you finally stop trying to force it This book reinforced something I’ve felt for years but didn’t have words for: when you stop working, the right ideas finally show up. Whether it was during my double-arm recovery or a late-night breakthrough on the couch, my biggest answers came when I stepped away from the desk. If you’re hitting a wall, the problem probably isn’t your tactics… It’s your beliefs. AND BTW… If you want my notes from this book, including quotes, key takeaways, and how I’m applying them in my business, you can find it all here! ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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I unpack how this book reframed the way I structure my workdays, why creative breakthroughs don’t come from forcing the issue, and how our subconscious beliefs shape the ceiling of our success. I also share stories from my own journey, from struggling to break six figures, to hitting plateaus at $1M, $10M, and beyond. And I talk about how each of those levels had less to do with tactics and everything to do with mindset. Key Highlights: ◼️The six-hour workday model and how to use the final two hours for subconscious creativity ◼️Why success is 90% psychology, and the real reason most entrepreneurs stay stuck ◼️How proximity and your environment shape your subconscious identity ◼️The hidden ceilings you don’t realize are holding you back ◼️Why creativity often strikes when you finally stop trying to force it This book reinforced something I’ve felt for years but didn’t have words for: when you stop working, the right ideas finally show up. Whether it was during my double-arm recovery or a late-night breakthrough on the couch, my biggest answers came when I stepped away from the desk. If you’re hitting a wall, the problem probably isn’t your tactics… It’s your beliefs. AND BTW… If you want my notes from this book, including quotes, key takeaways, and how I’m applying them in my business, you can find it all here! ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? 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LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into a rare book I picked up for $75 called The Subconscious Mind in Business by Robert Updegraff… The same author as Obvious Adams. It instantly became one of my favorites. The book hit me at the perfect time… Right after I tore both my biceps and literally couldn’t work. Turns out, not working may have been the key.

I unpack how this book reframed the way I structure my workdays, why creative breakthroughs don’t come from forcing the issue, and how our subconscious beliefs shape the ceiling of our success. I also share stories from my own journey, from struggling to break six figures, to hitting plateaus at $1M, $10M, and beyond. And I talk about how each of those levels had less to do with tactics and everything to do with mindset.

Key Highlights:

◼️The six-hour workday model and how to use the final two hours for subconscious creativity

◼️Why success is 90% psychology, and the real reason most entrepreneurs stay stuck

◼️How proximity and your environment shape your subconscious identity

◼️The hidden ceilings you don’t realize are holding you back

◼️Why creativity often strikes when you finally stop trying to force it


This book reinforced something I’ve felt for years but didn’t have words for: when you stop working, the right ideas finally show up. Whether it was during my double-arm recovery or a late-night breakthrough on the couch, my biggest answers came when I stepped away from the desk. If you’re hitting a wall, the problem probably isn’t your tactics… It’s your beliefs.

AND BTW… If you want my notes from this book, including quotes, key takeaways, and how I’m applying them in my business, you can find it all here! ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes⁠


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

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]]> 827 Curiosity, Copy, and Fast Execution: Marketing Lessons from Tai Lopez | #Marketing - Ep. 56 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Tai Lopez… Someone I’ve watched, learned from, and admired from a marketing and sales perspective for years. We go deep into the mechanics of success, from how to model winning frameworks, to why curiosity is the overlooked engine behind big breakthroughs. We talk about what it really takes to scale businesses fast, how Tai thinks about brand arbitrage, and why speed of execution matters more than having the perfect plan. Tai also opens up about the environments that shaped him early on and how that affects the way he operates today. This is one of those episodes that hits on mindset, strategy, and practicality all at once. Key Highlights: ◼️Why learning frameworks is more valuable than memorizing tactics ◼️Tai’s “four levels” of understanding and how to move up the ladder faster ◼️How curiosity drives decision-making, speed, and skill acquisition ◼️The role of environment and peer influence in long-term success ◼️Why imperfect action always beats perfect planning One thing that stuck with me in this conversation is how intentional Tai is about absorbing ideas (books, mentors, observations) and turning them into frameworks he can use. If you’re feeling stuck in the mud with overthinking, slow execution, or wondering what separates good entrepreneurs from great ones… this episode lays it all out. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? 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LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Tai Lopez… Someone I’ve watched, learned from, and admired from a marketing and sales perspective for years. We go deep into the mechanics of success, from how to model winning frameworks, to why curiosity is the overlooked engine behind big breakthroughs. We talk about what it really takes to scale businesses fast, how Tai thinks about brand arbitrage, and why speed of execution matters more than having the perfect plan. Tai also opens up about the environments that shaped him early on and how that affects the way he operates today. This is one of those episodes that hits on mindset, strategy, and practicality all at once. Key Highlights: ◼️Why learning frameworks is more valuable than memorizing tactics ◼️Tai’s “four levels” of understanding and how to move up the ladder faster ◼️How curiosity drives decision-making, speed, and skill acquisition ◼️The role of environment and peer influence in long-term success ◼️Why imperfect action always beats perfect planning One thing that stuck with me in this conversation is how intentional Tai is about absorbing ideas (books, mentors, observations) and turning them into frameworks he can use. If you’re feeling stuck in the mud with overthinking, slow execution, or wondering what separates good entrepreneurs from great ones… this episode lays it all out. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Tai Lopez… Someone I’ve watched, learned from, and admired from a marketing and sales perspective for years. We go deep into the mechanics of success, from how to model winning frameworks, to why curiosity is the overlooked engine behind big breakthroughs.

We talk about what it really takes to scale businesses fast, how Tai thinks about brand arbitrage, and why speed of execution matters more than having the perfect plan. Tai also opens up about the environments that shaped him early on and how that affects the way he operates today.

This is one of those episodes that hits on mindset, strategy, and practicality all at once.

Key Highlights:

◼️Why learning frameworks is more valuable than memorizing tactics

◼️Tai’s “four levels” of understanding and how to move up the ladder faster

◼️How curiosity drives decision-making, speed, and skill acquisition

◼️The role of environment and peer influence in long-term success

◼️Why imperfect action always beats perfect planning


One thing that stuck with me in this conversation is how intentional Tai is about absorbing ideas (books, mentors, observations) and turning them into frameworks he can use. If you’re feeling stuck in the mud with overthinking, slow execution, or wondering what separates good entrepreneurs from great ones… this episode lays it all out.


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3653 Showmanship in Business: The Lost Book That Changed How I Launch Everything | #Marketing - Ep. 55 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into one of my favorite lost books of marketing: Showmanship in Business by Kenneth Goode and Zenon Kaufman. It’s out of print, almost impossible to find, and yet it’s filled with some of the most powerful principles I’ve ever studied when it comes to getting attention and making your message stick. This book was endorsed by Dale Carnegie and breaks down how to turn your product, offer, or brand into something truly memorable. I walk through the four pillars the authors teach, and how I’ve used these exact ideas in my own business to boost show-up rates, get people to share what I’m doing, and create real moments that matter. Key Highlights: ◼️The four pillars of business showmanship: Attract, Emphasize, Emotionalize, and Create Action ◼️How Tim Shields created theatrical experiences to sell photography training online ◼️The story of my “Dan Kennedy pilgrimage” and why it changed everything for one of our webinars ◼️Why a good message alone isn’t enough… You need a performance around it ◼️How adding intention and drama can 10x the impact of your marketing, even without a big budget This book is a reminder that people don’t just buy offers, they buy experiences. The best marketers aren’t just teachers… They're performers. And when you wrap your content in a little showmanship, everything changes. If you’ve ever felt like your message is getting lost in the noise, this episode will show you how to make it unforgettable. Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into one of my favorite lost books of marketing: Showmanship in Business by Kenneth Goode and Zenon Kaufman. It’s out of print, almost impossible to find, and yet it’s filled with some of the most powerful principles I’ve ever studied when it comes to getting attention and making your message stick. This book was endorsed by Dale Carnegie and breaks down how to turn your product, offer, or brand into something truly memorable. I walk through the four pillars the authors teach, and how I’ve used these exact ideas in my own business to boost show-up rates, get people to share what I’m doing, and create real moments that matter. Key Highlights: ◼️The four pillars of business showmanship: Attract, Emphasize, Emotionalize, and Create Action ◼️How Tim Shields created theatrical experiences to sell photography training online ◼️The story of my “Dan Kennedy pilgrimage” and why it changed everything for one of our webinars ◼️Why a good message alone isn’t enough… You need a performance around it ◼️How adding intention and drama can 10x the impact of your marketing, even without a big budget This book is a reminder that people don’t just buy offers, they buy experiences. The best marketers aren’t just teachers… They're performers. And when you wrap your content in a little showmanship, everything changes. If you’ve ever felt like your message is getting lost in the noise, this episode will show you how to make it unforgettable. Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! 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This book was endorsed by Dale Carnegie and breaks down how to turn your product, offer, or brand into something truly memorable. I walk through the four pillars the authors teach, and how I’ve used these exact ideas in my own business to boost show-up rates, get people to share what I’m doing, and create real moments that matter.

Key Highlights:

◼️The four pillars of business showmanship: Attract, Emphasize, Emotionalize, and Create Action

◼️How Tim Shields created theatrical experiences to sell photography training online

◼️The story of my “Dan Kennedy pilgrimage” and why it changed everything for one of our webinars

◼️Why a good message alone isn’t enough… You need a performance around it

◼️How adding intention and drama can 10x the impact of your marketing, even without a big budget


This book is a reminder that people don’t just buy offers, they buy experiences. The best marketers aren’t just teachers… They're performers. And when you wrap your content in a little showmanship, everything changes. If you’ve ever felt like your message is getting lost in the noise, this episode will show you how to make it unforgettable.
Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes


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]]> 934 Building a Business That Doesn’t Need You: Lessons from Tommy Mello | #Success - Ep. 54 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Tommy Mello, the owner of A1 Garage Door Service, and we unpack how he built one of the most successful service businesses in the country. We get into the nuts and bolts of how Tommy went from $50K in debt to running a company that does over $200 million a year and has 850+ employees. And more importantly, how he replaced himself, built a real leadership team, and trained technicians to deliver a great customer experience without needing him involved in every step. If you’re running a business and feel stuck doing everything yourself, this episode will show you what needs to shift so your company can grow. It will help you make the classic shift from “working IN your business” to “working ON your business”. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most entrepreneurs stay stuck: they never replace themselves ◼️How Tommy uses a clear org chart and defined roles to scale with structure ◼️The leadership traits he looks for when hiring managers and technicians ◼️How he built a training center to onboard new employees the right way ◼️The importance of weekly one-on-ones for accountability and long-term performance Tommy is a super relatable and down-to-earth guy that has so much wisdom and experience to share. His knowledge will help anyone from an online solopreneur, to a Fortune 500 CEO.  His story is packed with practical strategies for growing a service-based business, and leading like an actual CEO. Listen in and take notes! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? 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Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Tommy Mello, the owner of A1 Garage Door Service, and we unpack how he built one of the most successful service businesses in the country. We get into the nuts and bolts of how Tommy went from $50K in debt to running a company that does over $200 million a year and has 850+ employees. And more importantly, how he replaced himself, built a real leadership team, and trained technicians to deliver a great customer experience without needing him involved in every step. If you’re running a business and feel stuck doing everything yourself, this episode will show you what needs to shift so your company can grow. It will help you make the classic shift from “working IN your business” to “working ON your business”. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most entrepreneurs stay stuck: they never replace themselves ◼️How Tommy uses a clear org chart and defined roles to scale with structure ◼️The leadership traits he looks for when hiring managers and technicians ◼️How he built a training center to onboard new employees the right way ◼️The importance of weekly one-on-ones for accountability and long-term performance Tommy is a super relatable and down-to-earth guy that has so much wisdom and experience to share. His knowledge will help anyone from an online solopreneur, to a Fortune 500 CEO.  His story is packed with practical strategies for growing a service-based business, and leading like an actual CEO. Listen in and take notes! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Tommy Mello, the owner of A1 Garage Door Service, and we unpack how he built one of the most successful service businesses in the country.

We get into the nuts and bolts of how Tommy went from $50K in debt to running a company that does over $200 million a year and has 850+ employees. And more importantly, how he replaced himself, built a real leadership team, and trained technicians to deliver a great customer experience without needing him involved in every step.

If you’re running a business and feel stuck doing everything yourself, this episode will show you what needs to shift so your company can grow. It will help you make the classic shift from “working IN your business” to “working ON your business”.

Key Highlights:

◼️Why most entrepreneurs stay stuck: they never replace themselves

◼️How Tommy uses a clear org chart and defined roles to scale with structure

◼️The leadership traits he looks for when hiring managers and technicians

◼️How he built a training center to onboard new employees the right way

◼️The importance of weekly one-on-ones for accountability and long-term performance


Tommy is a super relatable and down-to-earth guy that has so much wisdom and experience to share. His knowledge will help anyone from an online solopreneur, to a Fortune 500 CEO.  His story is packed with practical strategies for growing a service-based business, and leading like an actual CEO. Listen in and take notes!


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3271 The Coaching Framework That Built ClickFunnels (And How to Build Yours) | #Success - Ep. 53 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing a live presentation I gave at one of the biggest virtual events in Spain… Where I broke down the exact steps I took to become a coach, attract dream clients, and build a multi-million dollar business using frameworks. If you’re a coach (or want to be), this is a crash course in how to go from someone with a result… to someone who can replicate that result in others and actually build a business around it. I walk through the four-step process I’ve used to create offers people want, get my clients life-changing results, and build programs like Inner Circle and Atlas. Key Highlights: ◼️The #1 mistake new coaches make (and why you should never skip this step) ◼️Why results alone aren’t enough… You need a tested framework◼️How to use student results to massively explode your coaching business ◼️How to name and own your proprietary process so people talk about you ◼️The real story behind my first coaching client, and why I coached him for free ◼️How I helped Organifi go from almost shutting down… to blowing up Essentially, this is how you build a coaching business that actually lasts. Not by chasing trends or selling empty promises, but by serving people, proving your process, and turning those wins into stories that sell for you. If you’re serious about building a coaching empire, start with this episode! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? 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Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing a live presentation I gave at one of the biggest virtual events in Spain… Where I broke down the exact steps I took to become a coach, attract dream clients, and build a multi-million dollar business using frameworks. If you’re a coach (or want to be), this is a crash course in how to go from someone with a result… to someone who can replicate that result in others and actually build a business around it. I walk through the four-step process I’ve used to create offers people want, get my clients life-changing results, and build programs like Inner Circle and Atlas. Key Highlights: ◼️The #1 mistake new coaches make (and why you should never skip this step) ◼️Why results alone aren’t enough… You need a tested framework◼️How to use student results to massively explode your coaching business ◼️How to name and own your proprietary process so people talk about you ◼️The real story behind my first coaching client, and why I coached him for free ◼️How I helped Organifi go from almost shutting down… to blowing up Essentially, this is how you build a coaching business that actually lasts. Not by chasing trends or selling empty promises, but by serving people, proving your process, and turning those wins into stories that sell for you. If you’re serious about building a coaching empire, start with this episode! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing a live presentation I gave at one of the biggest virtual events in Spain… Where I broke down the exact steps I took to become a coach, attract dream clients, and build a multi-million dollar business using frameworks.

If you’re a coach (or want to be), this is a crash course in how to go from someone with a result… to someone who can replicate that result in others and actually build a business around it. I walk through the four-step process I’ve used to create offers people want, get my clients life-changing results, and build programs like Inner Circle and Atlas.

Key Highlights:

◼️The #1 mistake new coaches make (and why you should never skip this step)

◼️Why results alone aren’t enough… You need a tested framework
◼️How to use student results to massively explode your coaching business

◼️How to name and own your proprietary process so people talk about you

◼️The real story behind my first coaching client, and why I coached him for free

◼️How I helped Organifi go from almost shutting down… to blowing up


Essentially, this is how you build a coaching business that actually lasts. Not by chasing trends or selling empty promises, but by serving people, proving your process, and turning those wins into stories that sell for you. If you’re serious about building a coaching empire, start with this episode!


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

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]]> 2087 Inside My Car: What I’m Rethinking About Productivity, Offers, and Purpose | #Success - Ep. 52 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show I’m back in the car… Just like the old days!  I’m sharing what’s been happening behind the scenes at ClickFunnels, Secrets of Success, and my personal life. We’re in a challenging season, but in the best way possible. I’ll walk you through the funnel testing process we’re deep in right now, the real reason “You’re One Funnel Away” still rings true, and the surprising moment at an Atlas meeting that led to one of the biggest breakthroughs I’ve had in years… the birth of the 1357 Club. If you’ve ever struggled to dial things in and stay focused through all the chaos of business, this episode will ground you. I also talk about some recent changes in my scripture study habits… Reading not just for knowledge, but for revelation. This isn’t just marketing advice. It’s personal. It’s practical. And if you let it, it might just reframe how you approach your mornings, your business, and even your faith. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why ClickFunnels is in “discovery mode” and how that’s a good thing ◼️ The 1357 Club: How Napoleon Hill, a rare journal, and a Zoom room of entrepreneurs sparked a movement ◼️ Why 13 minutes and 57 seconds might be the most productive part of your day ◼️ The real math behind scaling paid ads (and what I’m doing to beat the rising costs) ◼️ How to build offers that seamlessly integrate with your back-end software or affiliate goals ◼️ A new way to read scripture with purpose: revelation over routine Bottom line: Business is a battle. But it’s also a beautiful game when you learn to play it with the right mindset, frameworks, and spiritual grounding. This episode is a front-row seat to how I’m navigating both worlds… funnel building and faith… At the same time! To learn more about 1357 Club… Check out 1357Club.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show I’m back in the car… Just like the old days!  I’m sharing what’s been happening behind the scenes at ClickFunnels, Secrets of Success, and my personal life. We’re in a challenging season, but in the best way possible. I’ll walk you through the funnel testing process we’re deep in right now, the real reason “You’re One Funnel Away” still rings true, and the surprising moment at an Atlas meeting that led to one of the biggest breakthroughs I’ve had in years… the birth of the 1357 Club. If you’ve ever struggled to dial things in and stay focused through all the chaos of business, this episode will ground you. I also talk about some recent changes in my scripture study habits… Reading not just for knowledge, but for revelation. This isn’t just marketing advice. It’s personal. It’s practical. And if you let it, it might just reframe how you approach your mornings, your business, and even your faith. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why ClickFunnels is in “discovery mode” and how that’s a good thing ◼️ The 1357 Club: How Napoleon Hill, a rare journal, and a Zoom room of entrepreneurs sparked a movement ◼️ Why 13 minutes and 57 seconds might be the most productive part of your day ◼️ The real math behind scaling paid ads (and what I’m doing to beat the rising costs) ◼️ How to build offers that seamlessly integrate with your back-end software or affiliate goals ◼️ A new way to read scripture with purpose: revelation over routine Bottom line: Business is a battle. But it’s also a beautiful game when you learn to play it with the right mindset, frameworks, and spiritual grounding. This episode is a front-row seat to how I’m navigating both worlds… funnel building and faith… At the same time! To learn more about 1357 Club… Check out 1357Club.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show I’m back in the car… Just like the old days! 

I’m sharing what’s been happening behind the scenes at ClickFunnels, Secrets of Success, and my personal life. We’re in a challenging season, but in the best way possible. I’ll walk you through the funnel testing process we’re deep in right now, the real reason “You’re One Funnel Away” still rings true, and the surprising moment at an Atlas meeting that led to one of the biggest breakthroughs I’ve had in years… the birth of the 1357 Club.

If you’ve ever struggled to dial things in and stay focused through all the chaos of business, this episode will ground you. I also talk about some recent changes in my scripture study habits… Reading not just for knowledge, but for revelation. This isn’t just marketing advice. It’s personal. It’s practical. And if you let it, it might just reframe how you approach your mornings, your business, and even your faith.

Key Highlights:

◼️ Why ClickFunnels is in “discovery mode” and how that’s a good thing

◼️ The 1357 Club: How Napoleon Hill, a rare journal, and a Zoom room of entrepreneurs sparked a movement

◼️ Why 13 minutes and 57 seconds might be the most productive part of your day

◼️ The real math behind scaling paid ads (and what I’m doing to beat the rising costs)

◼️ How to build offers that seamlessly integrate with your back-end software or affiliate goals

◼️ A new way to read scripture with purpose: revelation over routine


Bottom line: Business is a battle. But it’s also a beautiful game when you learn to play it with the right mindset, frameworks, and spiritual grounding. This episode is a front-row seat to how I’m navigating both worlds… funnel building and faith… At the same time!


To learn more about 1357 Club… Check out 1357Club.com


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 1526 Truthful Advertising: Napoleon Hill’s Secret Strategies That Still Work 100 Years Later | #Marketing - Ep 51 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share something I still can’t believe I own… The only known copy of a 1917 advertising course written and taught by Napoleon Hill himself, 20 years before he wrote Think and Grow Rich! This is more than just a cool collectible. It’s the missing link that explains how Napoleon Hill became one of the most influential personal development authors of all time. Before he shaped millions of minds, he was teaching people how to advertise. And not just the tactics, but how to become the kind of person who can persuade, influence, and move people to action. What he taught over 100 years ago still applies today, and in this episode, I break it down. What Hill got right, what today’s marketers are missing, and why timeless strategy beats trendy tactics every single time. Key Highlights: ◼️The real reason Think and Grow Rich has sold over 100 million copies, and it’s not what you think ◼️How Hill’s forgotten ad course focused on developing the advertiser before teaching any copy techniques ◼️The biggest mindset shift every marketer needs before they write a word of copy or launch a funnel ◼️Why so many entrepreneurs fail when platforms shift, and how to become “bulletproof” instead ◼️The powerful advertising principle Hill taught: help your customers visualize the outcome, not the process ◼️Why the best salespeople don’t sell products, they sell visions I’ve gone through every page of Hill’s original manuscript and taken notes on everything. If you want to understand the strategy that makes any tactic work and become the kind of person who can market, sell, and scale anything, this is where to start. This episode isn’t about chasing the next trend… It’s about learning what never changes! Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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Before he shaped millions of minds, he was teaching people how to advertise. And not just the tactics, but how to become the kind of person who can persuade, influence, and move people to action. What he taught over 100 years ago still applies today, and in this episode, I break it down. What Hill got right, what today’s marketers are missing, and why timeless strategy beats trendy tactics every single time. Key Highlights: ◼️The real reason Think and Grow Rich has sold over 100 million copies, and it’s not what you think ◼️How Hill’s forgotten ad course focused on developing the advertiser before teaching any copy techniques ◼️The biggest mindset shift every marketer needs before they write a word of copy or launch a funnel ◼️Why so many entrepreneurs fail when platforms shift, and how to become “bulletproof” instead ◼️The powerful advertising principle Hill taught: help your customers visualize the outcome, not the process ◼️Why the best salespeople don’t sell products, they sell visions I’ve gone through every page of Hill’s original manuscript and taken notes on everything. If you want to understand the strategy that makes any tactic work and become the kind of person who can market, sell, and scale anything, this is where to start. This episode isn’t about chasing the next trend… It’s about learning what never changes! Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share something I still can’t believe I own… The only known copy of a 1917 advertising course written and taught by Napoleon Hill himself, 20 years before he wrote Think and Grow Rich!

This is more than just a cool collectible. It’s the missing link that explains how Napoleon Hill became one of the most influential personal development authors of all time. Before he shaped millions of minds, he was teaching people how to advertise. And not just the tactics, but how to become the kind of person who can persuade, influence, and move people to action.

What he taught over 100 years ago still applies today, and in this episode, I break it down. What Hill got right, what today’s marketers are missing, and why timeless strategy beats trendy tactics every single time.

Key Highlights:

◼️The real reason Think and Grow Rich has sold over 100 million copies, and it’s not what you think

◼️How Hill’s forgotten ad course focused on developing the advertiser before teaching any copy techniques

◼️The biggest mindset shift every marketer needs before they write a word of copy or launch a funnel

◼️Why so many entrepreneurs fail when platforms shift, and how to become “bulletproof” instead

◼️The powerful advertising principle Hill taught: help your customers visualize the outcome, not the process

◼️Why the best salespeople don’t sell products, they sell visions


I’ve gone through every page of Hill’s original manuscript and taken notes on everything. If you want to understand the strategy that makes any tactic work and become the kind of person who can market, sell, and scale anything, this is where to start. This episode isn’t about chasing the next trend… It’s about learning what never changes!

Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes


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]]> 921 Jeremy Miner’s Secret to Selling Without Chasing or Convincing | #Sales - Ep. 50 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Jeremy Miner, founder of 7th Level and one of the sharpest sales minds I’ve ever met. His sales framework isn’t about hype or pressure. It’s about getting prospects to lower their guard, open up, and actually sell themselves. In our discussion, we go deep into how to eliminate resistance during the sales process… Especially for high-ticket offers. Jeremy breaks down the psychology of selling, why old-school techniques don’t work anymore, and how to ask the kind of questions that shift the dynamic completely. We even dive into why he named his company 7th Level… And the spiritual meaning behind it. In scripture, the number 7 is tied to completion and divine order. Jeremy believes true persuasion happens at that level: When you stop trying to push and instead help people come to their own inspired decisions. Whether you’re taking calls, closing from stage, or building funnels that sell on autopilot, this conversation will completely reframe how you think about sales. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why most sales resistance is triggered in the first few seconds of a call ◼️ The neuroscience behind how people make buying decisions ◼️ How to create disarming conversations that get prospects to sell themselves ◼️ Jeremy’s three-step question framework that takes people from curious to closed ◼️ The big mistake most entrepreneurs make when pitching their offer ◼️ Why selling should feel collaborative - not confrontational ◼️ How to guide people to their own conclusions instead of pushing them to buy ◼️ The one phrase that instantly lowers sales resistance on any call Jeremy’s approach is like the opposite of everything you’ve been told about “hard closing.” It’s subtle, strategic, and literally based on how Christ himself taught and persuaded when he was on earth… With questions! So cool!  If you’ve ever struggled with sales, either for yourself or your team, you’re going to want to listen to this one twice. This episode is packed with practical takeaways you can apply immediately to start closing more deals with less effort and more integrity. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! 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In our discussion, we go deep into how to eliminate resistance during the sales process… Especially for high-ticket offers. Jeremy breaks down the psychology of selling, why old-school techniques don’t work anymore, and how to ask the kind of questions that shift the dynamic completely. We even dive into why he named his company 7th Level… And the spiritual meaning behind it. In scripture, the number 7 is tied to completion and divine order. Jeremy believes true persuasion happens at that level: When you stop trying to push and instead help people come to their own inspired decisions. Whether you’re taking calls, closing from stage, or building funnels that sell on autopilot, this conversation will completely reframe how you think about sales. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why most sales resistance is triggered in the first few seconds of a call ◼️ The neuroscience behind how people make buying decisions ◼️ How to create disarming conversations that get prospects to sell themselves ◼️ Jeremy’s three-step question framework that takes people from curious to closed ◼️ The big mistake most entrepreneurs make when pitching their offer ◼️ Why selling should feel collaborative - not confrontational ◼️ How to guide people to their own conclusions instead of pushing them to buy ◼️ The one phrase that instantly lowers sales resistance on any call Jeremy’s approach is like the opposite of everything you’ve been told about “hard closing.” It’s subtle, strategic, and literally based on how Christ himself taught and persuaded when he was on earth… With questions! So cool!  If you’ve ever struggled with sales, either for yourself or your team, you’re going to want to listen to this one twice. This episode is packed with practical takeaways you can apply immediately to start closing more deals with less effort and more integrity. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Jeremy Miner, founder of 7th Level and one of the sharpest sales minds I’ve ever met. His sales framework isn’t about hype or pressure. It’s about getting prospects to lower their guard, open up, and actually sell themselves.

In our discussion, we go deep into how to eliminate resistance during the sales process… Especially for high-ticket offers. Jeremy breaks down the psychology of selling, why old-school techniques don’t work anymore, and how to ask the kind of questions that shift the dynamic completely.

We even dive into why he named his company 7th Level… And the spiritual meaning behind it. In scripture, the number 7 is tied to completion and divine order. Jeremy believes true persuasion happens at that level: When you stop trying to push and instead help people come to their own inspired decisions.

Whether you’re taking calls, closing from stage, or building funnels that sell on autopilot, this conversation will completely reframe how you think about sales.

Key Highlights:

◼️ Why most sales resistance is triggered in the first few seconds of a call

◼️ The neuroscience behind how people make buying decisions

◼️ How to create disarming conversations that get prospects to sell themselves

◼️ Jeremy’s three-step question framework that takes people from curious to closed

◼️ The big mistake most entrepreneurs make when pitching their offer

◼️ Why selling should feel collaborative - not confrontational

◼️ How to guide people to their own conclusions instead of pushing them to buy

◼️ The one phrase that instantly lowers sales resistance on any call


Jeremy’s approach is like the opposite of everything you’ve been told about “hard closing.” It’s subtle, strategic, and literally based on how Christ himself taught and persuaded when he was on earth… With questions! So cool! 

If you’ve ever struggled with sales, either for yourself or your team, you’re going to want to listen to this one twice. This episode is packed with practical takeaways you can apply immediately to start closing more deals with less effort and more integrity.


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2529 What ‘The True Believer’ Taught Me About Building a Mass Movement and Creating Raving Fans | #Marketing - Ep. 49 Most people think mass movements are built by having the right product or flashy branding… but it’s actually way deeper than that. Back when I was trying to figure out how to turn Clickfunnels into a real movement, I came across a weird little book from the 1950’s called The True Believer by Eric Hoffer. This book hit me like a ton of bricks. I started seeing patterns everywhere… Why people follow, why they stick, and how belief actually transfers from one person to another. This book literally changed how I wrote Expert Secrets. It changed how I thought about sales and marketing. And honestly, it changed how I lead. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m breaking down the core ideas from The True Believer… With my own commentary, how I’ve used this inside Clickfunnels, and how you can use it to build loyalty, momentum, and real belief around what you’re doing. Key Highlights: ◼️The 3 elements that fuel every mass movement (and why you need all three to create lasting belief) ◼️Why movements don’t start with logic… They start with emotion and shared frustration ◼️How to identify the “devil” your audience can unite against (and why you shouldn’t be afraid to evolve it) ◼️What I learned from watching the early Clickfunnels haters, and how we used their resistance to build stronger community ◼️The danger of becoming the thing your movement was created to fight This episode dives into the psychology behind why people buy, follow, and commit. If you’re building a brand, leading a tribe, or trying to grow something bigger than yourself, you need to understand how belief actually works. If you want to go deeper, I put together a special download with my personal notes and doodles from The True Believer and Expert Secrets. Just hit this link and grab it for free! http://russellbrunson.com/notes ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! 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This book hit me like a ton of bricks. I started seeing patterns everywhere… Why people follow, why they stick, and how belief actually transfers from one person to another. This book literally changed how I wrote Expert Secrets. It changed how I thought about sales and marketing. And honestly, it changed how I lead. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m breaking down the core ideas from The True Believer… With my own commentary, how I’ve used this inside Clickfunnels, and how you can use it to build loyalty, momentum, and real belief around what you’re doing. Key Highlights: ◼️The 3 elements that fuel every mass movement (and why you need all three to create lasting belief) ◼️Why movements don’t start with logic… They start with emotion and shared frustration ◼️How to identify the “devil” your audience can unite against (and why you shouldn’t be afraid to evolve it) ◼️What I learned from watching the early Clickfunnels haters, and how we used their resistance to build stronger community ◼️The danger of becoming the thing your movement was created to fight This episode dives into the psychology behind why people buy, follow, and commit. If you’re building a brand, leading a tribe, or trying to grow something bigger than yourself, you need to understand how belief actually works. If you want to go deeper, I put together a special download with my personal notes and doodles from The True Believer and Expert Secrets. Just hit this link and grab it for free! http://russellbrunson.com/notes ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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Back when I was trying to figure out how to turn Clickfunnels into a real movement, I came across a weird little book from the 1950’s called The True Believer by Eric Hoffer. This book hit me like a ton of bricks. I started seeing patterns everywhere… Why people follow, why they stick, and how belief actually transfers from one person to another.

This book literally changed how I wrote Expert Secrets. It changed how I thought about sales and marketing. And honestly, it changed how I lead.

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m breaking down the core ideas from The True Believer… With my own commentary, how I’ve used this inside Clickfunnels, and how you can use it to build loyalty, momentum, and real belief around what you’re doing.

Key Highlights:

◼️The 3 elements that fuel every mass movement (and why you need all three to create lasting belief)

◼️Why movements don’t start with logic… They start with emotion and shared frustration

◼️How to identify the “devil” your audience can unite against (and why you shouldn’t be afraid to evolve it)

◼️What I learned from watching the early Clickfunnels haters, and how we used their resistance to build stronger community

◼️The danger of becoming the thing your movement was created to fight


This episode dives into the psychology behind why people buy, follow, and commit. If you’re building a brand, leading a tribe, or trying to grow something bigger than yourself, you need to understand how belief actually works.

If you want to go deeper, I put together a special download with my personal notes and doodles from The True Believer and Expert Secrets. Just hit this link and grab it for free! http://russellbrunson.com/notes


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 839 Dr. Benjamin Hardy Explains How to Flip Your Thinking and Scale Faster | #Success - Ep. 48 This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is a deep dive into the Science of Scaling… The new book and framework from Dr. Benjamin Hardy. I sat down with Ben to unpack the actual roadmap behind exponential growth, goal filtering, and identity transformation. We talk about why most people let their past define their present... and how to flip that thinking to let your future shape everything instead. We break down the exact frameworks that help top performers set more urgent goals, choose the right “Whos,” and avoid getting stuck on the wrong path. If you’ve ever felt like your current results don’t match your potential, this episode gives you the tools to fix that… Starting today! Key Highlights: ◼️The Frame-Floor-Focus framework that anchors every scaling decision ◼️Why your future should define your present… Not your past ◼️The power of urgency and identity-based goals (and why most people miss this) ◼️How “Super Whos” accelerate success for your business ◼️Why Ben left Medium and YouTube behind and what we can learn about focusing on the “next wave” We also talk about the mindset behind strategic letting go, why success often requires subtraction, and how your current level of results is often a reflection of what you haven’t yet released. If you’re serious about building a business - and a life - that scales, don’t miss this episode! Get a free copy of Ben’s book The Science of Scaling at: scaling.com/audiobook ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? 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Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is a deep dive into the Science of Scaling… The new book and framework from Dr. Benjamin Hardy. I sat down with Ben to unpack the actual roadmap behind exponential growth, goal filtering, and identity transformation. We talk about why most people let their past define their present... and how to flip that thinking to let your future shape everything instead. We break down the exact frameworks that help top performers set more urgent goals, choose the right “Whos,” and avoid getting stuck on the wrong path. If you’ve ever felt like your current results don’t match your potential, this episode gives you the tools to fix that… Starting today! Key Highlights: ◼️The Frame-Floor-Focus framework that anchors every scaling decision ◼️Why your future should define your present… Not your past ◼️The power of urgency and identity-based goals (and why most people miss this) ◼️How “Super Whos” accelerate success for your business ◼️Why Ben left Medium and YouTube behind and what we can learn about focusing on the “next wave” We also talk about the mindset behind strategic letting go, why success often requires subtraction, and how your current level of results is often a reflection of what you haven’t yet released. If you’re serious about building a business - and a life - that scales, don’t miss this episode! Get a free copy of Ben’s book The Science of Scaling at: scaling.com/audiobook ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? 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Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is a deep dive into the Science of Scaling… The new book and framework from Dr. Benjamin Hardy. I sat down with Ben to unpack the actual roadmap behind exponential growth, goal filtering, and identity transformation. We talk about why most people let their past define their present... and how to flip that thinking to let your future shape everything instead.

We break down the exact frameworks that help top performers set more urgent goals, choose the right “Whos,” and avoid getting stuck on the wrong path. If you’ve ever felt like your current results don’t match your potential, this episode gives you the tools to fix that… Starting today!

Key Highlights:

◼️The Frame-Floor-Focus framework that anchors every scaling decision

◼️Why your future should define your present… Not your past

◼️The power of urgency and identity-based goals (and why most people miss this)

◼️How “Super Whos” accelerate success for your business

◼️Why Ben left Medium and YouTube behind and what we can learn about focusing on the “next wave”


We also talk about the mindset behind strategic letting go, why success often requires subtraction, and how your current level of results is often a reflection of what you haven’t yet released. If you’re serious about building a business - and a life - that scales, don’t miss this episode!


Get a free copy of Ben’s book The Science of Scaling at: scaling.com/audiobook


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2126 Matt Gray & Russell Brunson: Rewiring Your Subconscious for Business Breakthroughs | #Marketing - Ep. 47 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my friend Matt Gray for a powerful conversation about the hidden force driving (or sabotaging) your success: the subconscious mind. We go deep into how the beliefs you carry beneath the surface can either accelerate your success or quietly sabotage everything you’re trying to build. Matt and I share personal strategies we’ve used to reprogram our own thinking, uncover hidden mental roadblocks, and create breakthroughs in our businesses. If you’ve ever felt stuck despite following the right playbook, this episode will help you understand why. I also loved hearing how Matt approaches content - especially how he taps into the fears and dreams of his audience to create messaging that converts. He shares a brilliant (and simple) survey strategy you can use to build high-impact content from your customer’s subconscious beliefs. We even dive into the history of propaganda, PR, and the psychology behind why some people succeed with the same tools that others struggle with. This episode is a crash course in rewriting the internal script that’s holding you back. Key Highlights: ◼️ How your subconscious beliefs quietly shape your business results - whether you know it or not ◼️ The difference between conscious decisions and the stories your subconscious is really acting on ◼️ Why traditional mindset work often falls short - and what actually rewires your beliefs ◼️ Matt’s 3-question survey method to uncover exactly what your audience is thinking and feeling ◼️ A candid breakdown of the “art vs algorithm” debate - and how to create content that stays true to your voice while still performing online ◼️ The surprising link between Freud, propaganda, and modern sales psychology This episode will challenge the way you think about success - and give you the tools to shift from self-sabotage to unstoppable momentum. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? 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Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my friend Matt Gray for a powerful conversation about the hidden force driving (or sabotaging) your success: the subconscious mind. We go deep into how the beliefs you carry beneath the surface can either accelerate your success or quietly sabotage everything you’re trying to build. Matt and I share personal strategies we’ve used to reprogram our own thinking, uncover hidden mental roadblocks, and create breakthroughs in our businesses. If you’ve ever felt stuck despite following the right playbook, this episode will help you understand why. I also loved hearing how Matt approaches content - especially how he taps into the fears and dreams of his audience to create messaging that converts. He shares a brilliant (and simple) survey strategy you can use to build high-impact content from your customer’s subconscious beliefs. We even dive into the history of propaganda, PR, and the psychology behind why some people succeed with the same tools that others struggle with. This episode is a crash course in rewriting the internal script that’s holding you back. Key Highlights: ◼️ How your subconscious beliefs quietly shape your business results - whether you know it or not ◼️ The difference between conscious decisions and the stories your subconscious is really acting on ◼️ Why traditional mindset work often falls short - and what actually rewires your beliefs ◼️ Matt’s 3-question survey method to uncover exactly what your audience is thinking and feeling ◼️ A candid breakdown of the “art vs algorithm” debate - and how to create content that stays true to your voice while still performing online ◼️ The surprising link between Freud, propaganda, and modern sales psychology This episode will challenge the way you think about success - and give you the tools to shift from self-sabotage to unstoppable momentum. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? 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Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my friend Matt Gray for a powerful conversation about the hidden force driving (or sabotaging) your success: the subconscious mind. We go deep into how the beliefs you carry beneath the surface can either accelerate your success or quietly sabotage everything you’re trying to build.

Matt and I share personal strategies we’ve used to reprogram our own thinking, uncover hidden mental roadblocks, and create breakthroughs in our businesses. If you’ve ever felt stuck despite following the right playbook, this episode will help you understand why.

I also loved hearing how Matt approaches content - especially how he taps into the fears and dreams of his audience to create messaging that converts. He shares a brilliant (and simple) survey strategy you can use to build high-impact content from your customer’s subconscious beliefs.

We even dive into the history of propaganda, PR, and the psychology behind why some people succeed with the same tools that others struggle with. This episode is a crash course in rewriting the internal script that’s holding you back.

Key Highlights:

◼️ How your subconscious beliefs quietly shape your business results - whether you know it or not

◼️ The difference between conscious decisions and the stories your subconscious is really acting on

◼️ Why traditional mindset work often falls short - and what actually rewires your beliefs

◼️ Matt’s 3-question survey method to uncover exactly what your audience is thinking and feeling

◼️ A candid breakdown of the “art vs algorithm” debate - and how to create content that stays true to your voice while still performing online

◼️ The surprising link between Freud, propaganda, and modern sales psychology


This episode will challenge the way you think about success - and give you the tools to shift from self-sabotage to unstoppable momentum.


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 1952 The Psychology of “Propaganda” Influence That Every Marketer Needs to Know | #Marketing - Ep. 46 Most entrepreneurs try to sell products. Edward Bernays taught us to sell identity. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down the hidden playbook behind influence, persuasion, and mass movement creation. After reading Bernays’ book Propaganda, the first of its kind on psychological marketing, I realized we’ve all been influenced by people we’ve never met, often without even knowing it. You’ll hear how these principles apply to modern marketing, from webinars to branding to stage presentations. This is the kind of episode that will shift how you sell, how you communicate, and how you think. Key Highlights: ◼️The true story of Edward Bernays, Freud’s nephew and the father of PR ◼️How the concept of propaganda turned into public relations and why it matters ◼️The simple identity hack that helped us grow ClickFunnels into a movement ◼️Why emotional stories sell better than logic and how to craft them ◼️How I reframed negative perceptions to flip them into buying beliefs ◼️Real examples from politics, religion, and parenting where reframing changes everything When you understand how identity, emotion, and subconscious desires drive decisions, you stop guessing what will sell. You start influencing at a deeper level. Whether you’re running ads, speaking on stage, or building your brand, this episode will change the way you think about marketing forever. Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most entrepreneurs try to sell products. Edward Bernays taught us to sell identity. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down the hidden playbook behind influence, persuasion, and mass movement creation. After reading Bernays’ book Propaganda, the first of its kind on psychological marketing, I realized we’ve all been influenced by people we’ve never met, often without even knowing it. You’ll hear how these principles apply to modern marketing, from webinars to branding to stage presentations. This is the kind of episode that will shift how you sell, how you communicate, and how you think. Key Highlights: ◼️The true story of Edward Bernays, Freud’s nephew and the father of PR ◼️How the concept of propaganda turned into public relations and why it matters ◼️The simple identity hack that helped us grow ClickFunnels into a movement ◼️Why emotional stories sell better than logic and how to craft them ◼️How I reframed negative perceptions to flip them into buying beliefs ◼️Real examples from politics, religion, and parenting where reframing changes everything When you understand how identity, emotion, and subconscious desires drive decisions, you stop guessing what will sell. You start influencing at a deeper level. Whether you’re running ads, speaking on stage, or building your brand, this episode will change the way you think about marketing forever. 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In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down the hidden playbook behind influence, persuasion, and mass movement creation. After reading Bernays’ book Propaganda, the first of its kind on psychological marketing, I realized we’ve all been influenced by people we’ve never met, often without even knowing it.

You’ll hear how these principles apply to modern marketing, from webinars to branding to stage presentations. This is the kind of episode that will shift how you sell, how you communicate, and how you think.

Key Highlights:

◼️The true story of Edward Bernays, Freud’s nephew and the father of PR

◼️How the concept of propaganda turned into public relations and why it matters

◼️The simple identity hack that helped us grow ClickFunnels into a movement

◼️Why emotional stories sell better than logic and how to craft them

◼️How I reframed negative perceptions to flip them into buying beliefs

◼️Real examples from politics, religion, and parenting where reframing changes everything


When you understand how identity, emotion, and subconscious desires drive decisions, you stop guessing what will sell. You start influencing at a deeper level. Whether you’re running ads, speaking on stage, or building your brand, this episode will change the way you think about marketing forever.

Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 870 Jim Kwik on Rewiring Your Brain for Focus, Speed, and Success | #Success - Ep. 45 This one’s all about unlocking your brain so you can learn faster, remember more, and become unstoppable in business and life. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Jim Kwik, the world’s leading expert on memory, brain performance, and accelerated learning. I’ve followed Jim for years, but this conversation hit different. We go deep into the mindset, systems, and science behind how the most successful entrepreneurs operate at a high level… without burning out or slowing down. Jim shares powerful tips for improving focus, boosting retention, and even reading entire books in a single afternoon. Whether you’re building funnels, running ads, or trying to level up your leadership, this stuff is not only fascinating… It can actually help you perform at your best! Key Highlights: ◼️Why your brain is your #1 business asset and how to protect it ◼️Jim’s 3-part formula for learning anything faster ◼️How to eliminate mental fatigue and increase daily productivity ◼️The reason most people forget what they read, and how to fix it ◼️What to do in your first 90 minutes each morning for optimal performance ◼️Why identity shapes behavior and how to reprogram your “I am” beliefs ◼️The link between confidence, memory, and business growth ◼️Why being busy doesn’t mean you’re being productive, and how to shift that This conversation isn’t just about learning faster. It’s about becoming the kind of leader, marketer, and entrepreneur who can consistently show up, execute, and grow… Without getting overwhelmed or stuck in busywork! If you’ve ever felt like you’re working hard but not moving forward fast enough, this episode will change the way you approach your brain, your habits, and your entire business strategy. If you want more brain-boosting strategies from Jim, go to www.kwikbrain.com! You can also order his book, Limitless, on his website! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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We go deep into the mindset, systems, and science behind how the most successful entrepreneurs operate at a high level… without burning out or slowing down. Jim shares powerful tips for improving focus, boosting retention, and even reading entire books in a single afternoon. Whether you’re building funnels, running ads, or trying to level up your leadership, this stuff is not only fascinating… It can actually help you perform at your best! Key Highlights: ◼️Why your brain is your #1 business asset and how to protect it ◼️Jim’s 3-part formula for learning anything faster ◼️How to eliminate mental fatigue and increase daily productivity ◼️The reason most people forget what they read, and how to fix it ◼️What to do in your first 90 minutes each morning for optimal performance ◼️Why identity shapes behavior and how to reprogram your “I am” beliefs ◼️The link between confidence, memory, and business growth ◼️Why being busy doesn’t mean you’re being productive, and how to shift that This conversation isn’t just about learning faster. It’s about becoming the kind of leader, marketer, and entrepreneur who can consistently show up, execute, and grow… Without getting overwhelmed or stuck in busywork! If you’ve ever felt like you’re working hard but not moving forward fast enough, this episode will change the way you approach your brain, your habits, and your entire business strategy. If you want more brain-boosting strategies from Jim, go to www.kwikbrain.com! You can also order his book, Limitless, on his website! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Jim Kwik, the world’s leading expert on memory, brain performance, and accelerated learning. I’ve followed Jim for years, but this conversation hit different. We go deep into the mindset, systems, and science behind how the most successful entrepreneurs operate at a high level… without burning out or slowing down.

Jim shares powerful tips for improving focus, boosting retention, and even reading entire books in a single afternoon. Whether you’re building funnels, running ads, or trying to level up your leadership, this stuff is not only fascinating… It can actually help you perform at your best!

Key Highlights:

◼️Why your brain is your #1 business asset and how to protect it

◼️Jim’s 3-part formula for learning anything faster

◼️How to eliminate mental fatigue and increase daily productivity

◼️The reason most people forget what they read, and how to fix it

◼️What to do in your first 90 minutes each morning for optimal performance

◼️Why identity shapes behavior and how to reprogram your “I am” beliefs

◼️The link between confidence, memory, and business growth

◼️Why being busy doesn’t mean you’re being productive, and how to shift that

This conversation isn’t just about learning faster. It’s about becoming the kind of leader, marketer, and entrepreneur who can consistently show up, execute, and grow… Without getting overwhelmed or stuck in busywork!

If you’ve ever felt like you’re working hard but not moving forward fast enough, this episode will change the way you approach your brain, your habits, and your entire business strategy.


If you want more brain-boosting strategies from Jim, go to www.kwikbrain.com! You can also order his book, Limitless, on his website!

◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2507 One Funnel Away Q&A - Real Questions, Real Funnels, Real Fixes | #Marketing - Ep. 44 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing highlights from a live One Funnel Away Q&A session packed with practical coaching, real-time strategy, and powerful takeaways for entrepreneurs trying to get their funnels working. We dive into the common mistakes holding people back, how to know if your offer is strong enough, and what to fix if you’re getting traffic but no sales. If you’re building a webinar, writing follow-up emails, or trying to map out your value ladder, there’s something in here for you. Key Highlights: ◼️The difference between a product and an offer, and why it matters ◼️One small change that can improve your webinar conversions fast ◼️The follow-up sequence structure that turns webinar watchers into buyers ◼️What to do when people aren’t opting in or attending your trainings ◼️How to create an irresistible offer without overwhelming your audience ◼️Why your list isn’t growing (and how to build one that actually buys) ◼️The missing link between your low-ticket and high-ticket products This episode gave me a chance to answer some really smart questions from our One Funnel Away community and think out loud about the strategies that are working right now. Whether you’re building your first offer or scaling up an existing funnel, this Q&A will give you both the mindset and the method to move forward with clarity and confidence. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing highlights from a live One Funnel Away Q&A session packed with practical coaching, real-time strategy, and powerful takeaways for entrepreneurs trying to get their funnels working. We dive into the common mistakes holding people back, how to know if your offer is strong enough, and what to fix if you’re getting traffic but no sales. If you’re building a webinar, writing follow-up emails, or trying to map out your value ladder, there’s something in here for you. Key Highlights: ◼️The difference between a product and an offer, and why it matters ◼️One small change that can improve your webinar conversions fast ◼️The follow-up sequence structure that turns webinar watchers into buyers ◼️What to do when people aren’t opting in or attending your trainings ◼️How to create an irresistible offer without overwhelming your audience ◼️Why your list isn’t growing (and how to build one that actually buys) ◼️The missing link between your low-ticket and high-ticket products This episode gave me a chance to answer some really smart questions from our One Funnel Away community and think out loud about the strategies that are working right now. Whether you’re building your first offer or scaling up an existing funnel, this Q&A will give you both the mindset and the method to move forward with clarity and confidence. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing highlights from a live One Funnel Away Q&A session packed with practical coaching, real-time strategy, and powerful takeaways for entrepreneurs trying to get their funnels working.

We dive into the common mistakes holding people back, how to know if your offer is strong enough, and what to fix if you’re getting traffic but no sales. If you’re building a webinar, writing follow-up emails, or trying to map out your value ladder, there’s something in here for you.

Key Highlights:

◼️The difference between a product and an offer, and why it matters

◼️One small change that can improve your webinar conversions fast

◼️The follow-up sequence structure that turns webinar watchers into buyers

◼️What to do when people aren’t opting in or attending your trainings

◼️How to create an irresistible offer without overwhelming your audience

◼️Why your list isn’t growing (and how to build one that actually buys)

◼️The missing link between your low-ticket and high-ticket products


This episode gave me a chance to answer some really smart questions from our One Funnel Away community and think out loud about the strategies that are working right now. Whether you’re building your first offer or scaling up an existing funnel, this Q&A will give you both the mindset and the method to move forward with clarity and confidence.


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 4127 Ryan Pineda Reveals The Secret Systems Behind His Multi-Business Empire | #Success - Ep. 43 What if you could dominate YouTube, build an eight-figure empire, and still protect your peace? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Ryan Pineda… Real estate investor, creator, and serial entrepreneur… And we talk about how he’s using content, systems, and the right business model to grow without burning out. We cover everything from his daily schedule to team structure to his take on monetizing attention in a smart, sustainable way. If you’re trying to juggle content, funnels, team leadership, and actually living your life, this conversation is packed with practical, real-world strategies. Key Highlights: ◼️How Ryan balances multiple businesses while creating consistent content ◼️Why his YouTube strategy shifted from storytelling to search (and what it did for views) ◼️The system he uses to plan, produce, and publish content across platforms ◼️How he applies the 80/20 rule to time, sales, and team structure ◼️Why his best marketing tool is free content, and how it feeds every business ◼️The real key to building an empire without becoming a slave to it Whether you’re scaling a personal brand or leading a fast-growing company, this episode will give you the sales frameworks, marketing insights, and mindset shifts to play the long game. Ryan’s approach isn’t just about growth… It’s about doing it with intention! Want to learn more from Ryan or follow what he’s building?  ryanpineda.com has links to all his businesses, content, and coaching. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media What if you could dominate YouTube, build an eight-figure empire, and still protect your peace? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Ryan Pineda… Real estate investor, creator, and serial entrepreneur… And we talk about how he’s using content, systems, and the right business model to grow without burning out. We cover everything from his daily schedule to team structure to his take on monetizing attention in a smart, sustainable way. If you’re trying to juggle content, funnels, team leadership, and actually living your life, this conversation is packed with practical, real-world strategies. Key Highlights: ◼️How Ryan balances multiple businesses while creating consistent content ◼️Why his YouTube strategy shifted from storytelling to search (and what it did for views) ◼️The system he uses to plan, produce, and publish content across platforms ◼️How he applies the 80/20 rule to time, sales, and team structure ◼️Why his best marketing tool is free content, and how it feeds every business ◼️The real key to building an empire without becoming a slave to it Whether you’re scaling a personal brand or leading a fast-growing company, this episode will give you the sales frameworks, marketing insights, and mindset shifts to play the long game. Ryan’s approach isn’t just about growth… It’s about doing it with intention! Want to learn more from Ryan or follow what he’s building?  ryanpineda.com has links to all his businesses, content, and coaching. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What if you could dominate YouTube, build an eight-figure empire, and still protect your peace?

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Ryan Pineda… Real estate investor, creator, and serial entrepreneur… And we talk about how he’s using content, systems, and the right business model to grow without burning out. We cover everything from his daily schedule to team structure to his take on monetizing attention in a smart, sustainable way.

If you’re trying to juggle content, funnels, team leadership, and actually living your life, this conversation is packed with practical, real-world strategies.

Key Highlights:

◼️How Ryan balances multiple businesses while creating consistent content

◼️Why his YouTube strategy shifted from storytelling to search (and what it did for views)

◼️The system he uses to plan, produce, and publish content across platforms

◼️How he applies the 80/20 rule to time, sales, and team structure

◼️Why his best marketing tool is free content, and how it feeds every business

◼️The real key to building an empire without becoming a slave to it


Whether you’re scaling a personal brand or leading a fast-growing company, this episode will give you the sales frameworks, marketing insights, and mindset shifts to play the long game. Ryan’s approach isn’t just about growth… It’s about doing it with intention!

Want to learn more from Ryan or follow what he’s building? 


ryanpineda.com has links to all his businesses, content, and coaching.

◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2869 What I Learned About Sales From the "Wolf of Wall Street", Jordan Belfort | #Sales - Ep. 42 I’ve learned a lot about sales over the years… but this conversation with Jordan Belfort blew me away. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with the one and only Wolf of Wall Street to talk about closing, conviction, and what it really takes to become a world-class communicator. This isn’t about outdated sales scripts or shady persuasion tactics. It’s about mastering human behavior, asking the right questions, and building real certainty in yourself and your offer. Jordan shares how he developed the Straight Line System, how he rebuilt his life after hitting rock bottom, and what entrepreneurs need to understand if they want to increase conversions without selling their soul. Key Highlights: ◼️The Straight Line System explained and how it works in any industry ◼️Why sales is about control, certainty, and connection ◼️How to frame your product so people want to say yes ◼️The three things every buyer must feel before they’ll convert ◼️Why tonal shifts matter more than your words ◼️The difference between average closers and those who make millions ◼️How to train your brain to believe in your offer at the deepest level Jordan is one of the sharpest minds I’ve ever met when it comes to sales and influence. If you’ve ever struggled to get people across the finish line or wondered why your pitch isn’t landing, this episode will help you close the gap. Let’s get into it! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? 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Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media I’ve learned a lot about sales over the years… but this conversation with Jordan Belfort blew me away. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with the one and only Wolf of Wall Street to talk about closing, conviction, and what it really takes to become a world-class communicator. This isn’t about outdated sales scripts or shady persuasion tactics. It’s about mastering human behavior, asking the right questions, and building real certainty in yourself and your offer. Jordan shares how he developed the Straight Line System, how he rebuilt his life after hitting rock bottom, and what entrepreneurs need to understand if they want to increase conversions without selling their soul. Key Highlights: ◼️The Straight Line System explained and how it works in any industry ◼️Why sales is about control, certainty, and connection ◼️How to frame your product so people want to say yes ◼️The three things every buyer must feel before they’ll convert ◼️Why tonal shifts matter more than your words ◼️The difference between average closers and those who make millions ◼️How to train your brain to believe in your offer at the deepest level Jordan is one of the sharpest minds I’ve ever met when it comes to sales and influence. If you’ve ever struggled to get people across the finish line or wondered why your pitch isn’t landing, this episode will help you close the gap. Let’s get into it! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I’ve learned a lot about sales over the years… but this conversation with Jordan Belfort blew me away.

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with the one and only Wolf of Wall Street to talk about closing, conviction, and what it really takes to become a world-class communicator. This isn’t about outdated sales scripts or shady persuasion tactics. It’s about mastering human behavior, asking the right questions, and building real certainty in yourself and your offer.

Jordan shares how he developed the Straight Line System, how he rebuilt his life after hitting rock bottom, and what entrepreneurs need to understand if they want to increase conversions without selling their soul.

Key Highlights:

◼️The Straight Line System explained and how it works in any industry

◼️Why sales is about control, certainty, and connection

◼️How to frame your product so people want to say yes

◼️The three things every buyer must feel before they’ll convert

◼️Why tonal shifts matter more than your words

◼️The difference between average closers and those who make millions

◼️How to train your brain to believe in your offer at the deepest level


Jordan is one of the sharpest minds I’ve ever met when it comes to sales and influence. If you’ve ever struggled to get people across the finish line or wondered why your pitch isn’t landing, this episode will help you close the gap.

Let’s get into it!


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

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]]> 2798 Funnels Won’t Fulfill You Unless You Do This First! | #Marketing - Ep. 41 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you behind the scenes of our ClickFunnels Connect event in Salt Lake City, and into a personal journey I haven’t shared publicly in a long time. This session was a deep dive into the real reason we build funnels. Not just to make sales, but to fulfill callings, build movements, and create something that actually matters. I opened up about my own journey with ClickFunnels… From the moments that nearly broke me to the decisions that changed everything. This wasn’t a typical business presentation. It was raw, vulnerable, and packed with lessons I wish someone had told me when I was starting out. Whether you’re just launching or scaling to eight figures, this episode is about rediscovering your “why”… and building from a place of purpose, not pressure. Key Highlights: ◼️The two kinds of callings entrepreneurs feel, and how to know which one is driving you ◼️Why the strongest funnels are built from faith, not fear ◼️How your business is a reflection of your internal growth ◼️The “3 types of funnels” framework and how each one serves a different mission ◼️Why chasing money alone is a trap (and what to do instead) ◼️What I’ve learned from the most fulfilled entrepreneurs I know, and how they build movements, not just offers If you’ve been feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or disconnected from your business, this episode might be the reminder you’ve been needing. Let’s realign your mission, reconnect with your calling, and get back to building something that actually lights you up!! ⁠https://www.clickfunnelsconnect.com⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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This wasn’t a typical business presentation. It was raw, vulnerable, and packed with lessons I wish someone had told me when I was starting out. Whether you’re just launching or scaling to eight figures, this episode is about rediscovering your “why”… and building from a place of purpose, not pressure. Key Highlights: ◼️The two kinds of callings entrepreneurs feel, and how to know which one is driving you ◼️Why the strongest funnels are built from faith, not fear ◼️How your business is a reflection of your internal growth ◼️The “3 types of funnels” framework and how each one serves a different mission ◼️Why chasing money alone is a trap (and what to do instead) ◼️What I’ve learned from the most fulfilled entrepreneurs I know, and how they build movements, not just offers If you’ve been feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or disconnected from your business, this episode might be the reminder you’ve been needing. Let’s realign your mission, reconnect with your calling, and get back to building something that actually lights you up!! ⁠https://www.clickfunnelsconnect.com⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you behind the scenes of our ClickFunnels Connect event in Salt Lake City, and into a personal journey I haven’t shared publicly in a long time.

This session was a deep dive into the real reason we build funnels. Not just to make sales, but to fulfill callings, build movements, and create something that actually matters. I opened up about my own journey with ClickFunnels… From the moments that nearly broke me to the decisions that changed everything. This wasn’t a typical business presentation. It was raw, vulnerable, and packed with lessons I wish someone had told me when I was starting out.

Whether you’re just launching or scaling to eight figures, this episode is about rediscovering your “why”… and building from a place of purpose, not pressure.

Key Highlights:

◼️The two kinds of callings entrepreneurs feel, and how to know which one is driving you

◼️Why the strongest funnels are built from faith, not fear

◼️How your business is a reflection of your internal growth

◼️The “3 types of funnels” framework and how each one serves a different mission

◼️Why chasing money alone is a trap (and what to do instead)

◼️What I’ve learned from the most fulfilled entrepreneurs I know, and how they build movements, not just offers

If you’ve been feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or disconnected from your business, this episode might be the reminder you’ve been needing. Let’s realign your mission, reconnect with your calling, and get back to building something that actually lights you up!!

⁠https://www.clickfunnelsconnect.com⁠


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3996 The High-Ticket Tactics Bridger Pennington Uses to Close $30K Clients | #Marketing - Ep. 40 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing the second part of our recent ClickFunnels Connect event in Salt Lake City. After I kicked off the day and McCall Jones crushed it on stage, we brought up Bridger Pennington, and what followed was part motivation, part marketing strategy, and part masterclass in how to raise money, think bigger, and lead like a true founder! Seriously… His presentation was insanely valuable! If you’ve ever wondered how the top 1% think when it comes to capital, scalability, and leadership… This session is packed with gold! Key Highlights: ◼️Why most entrepreneurs struggle to raise money, and what Bridger did differently ◼️The surprising “David vs Goliath” mindset that helped Bridger compete with billion-dollar firms ◼️How to pitch your business to investors (even if you don’t think you’re ready) ◼️Why “small thinking” kills momentum, and how to build a vision people want to fund ◼️Bridger’s 3 keys to raising capital and building credibility fast ◼️What we can learn from the world’s best fund managers, and how to apply it to marketing ◼️The difference between being a CEO and a visionary, and how to grow into that next level of leadership Whether you’re bootstrapping a startup, scaling a sales team, or thinking about raising outside money for the first time… this episode will challenge the way you think about marketing, business, and what’s really possible when you step into the founder role! To learn more about what Bridger is doing and stay in contact with him… Go to BridgerPennington.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.clickfunnelsconnect.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing the second part of our recent ClickFunnels Connect event in Salt Lake City. After I kicked off the day and McCall Jones crushed it on stage, we brought up Bridger Pennington, and what followed was part motivation, part marketing strategy, and part masterclass in how to raise money, think bigger, and lead like a true founder! Seriously… His presentation was insanely valuable! If you’ve ever wondered how the top 1% think when it comes to capital, scalability, and leadership… This session is packed with gold! Key Highlights: ◼️Why most entrepreneurs struggle to raise money, and what Bridger did differently ◼️The surprising “David vs Goliath” mindset that helped Bridger compete with billion-dollar firms ◼️How to pitch your business to investors (even if you don’t think you’re ready) ◼️Why “small thinking” kills momentum, and how to build a vision people want to fund ◼️Bridger’s 3 keys to raising capital and building credibility fast ◼️What we can learn from the world’s best fund managers, and how to apply it to marketing ◼️The difference between being a CEO and a visionary, and how to grow into that next level of leadership Whether you’re bootstrapping a startup, scaling a sales team, or thinking about raising outside money for the first time… this episode will challenge the way you think about marketing, business, and what’s really possible when you step into the founder role! To learn more about what Bridger is doing and stay in contact with him… Go to BridgerPennington.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.clickfunnelsconnect.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing the second part of our recent ClickFunnels Connect event in Salt Lake City. After I kicked off the day and McCall Jones crushed it on stage, we brought up Bridger Pennington, and what followed was part motivation, part marketing strategy, and part masterclass in how to raise money, think bigger, and lead like a true founder! Seriously… His presentation was insanely valuable!

If you’ve ever wondered how the top 1% think when it comes to capital, scalability, and leadership… This session is packed with gold!

Key Highlights:

◼️Why most entrepreneurs struggle to raise money, and what Bridger did differently

◼️The surprising “David vs Goliath” mindset that helped Bridger compete with billion-dollar firms

◼️How to pitch your business to investors (even if you don’t think you’re ready)

◼️Why “small thinking” kills momentum, and how to build a vision people want to fund

◼️Bridger’s 3 keys to raising capital and building credibility fast

◼️What we can learn from the world’s best fund managers, and how to apply it to marketing

◼️The difference between being a CEO and a visionary, and how to grow into that next level of leadership


Whether you’re bootstrapping a startup, scaling a sales team, or thinking about raising outside money for the first time… this episode will challenge the way you think about marketing, business, and what’s really possible when you step into the founder role!


To learn more about what Bridger is doing and stay in contact with him… Go to BridgerPennington.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

https://www.clickfunnelsconnect.com


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

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]]> 1962 Launching ClickFunnels Connect and The Truth About Influence with McCall Jones | #Marketing - Ep. 39 This episode of The Russell Brunson Show takes you inside the ClickFunnels Connect event we just hosted in Salt Lake City. In the first part of the episode, I share what ClickFunnels Connect actually is, who it’s for, and why we believe it’s the next big chapter for funnel builders, entrepreneurs, and creators looking to grow faster by growing together. Then you’ll hear from one of our most powerful voices in the marketing world… McCall Jones! Her session on influence and authenticity blew everyone away, and I knew we had to share it with you here. If you’ve ever struggled to feel confident on camera… or wondered how to build real connection with your audience without trying to be someone you’re not… McCall breaks it all down with frameworks that are both simple and life-changing. Key Highlights: ◼️Why we created ClickFunnels Connect and how it’s helping entrepreneurs grow together ◼️The hidden reason most people feel awkward on camera (and how to fix it) ◼️How McCall uses the “Stage & Story” method to turn your personality into your superpower ◼️The difference between real influence and trying too hard to be “authentic” ◼️Why copying other marketers kills your connection — and what to do instead ◼️How to show up with more confidence, clarity, and presence in every piece of content This episode is packed with strategy, identity shifts, and the kind of clarity that can transform your marketing from the inside out. Whether you’re already showing up consistently or still finding your voice, McCall’s insights will change the way you think about influence forever. And if you love it and want more from McCall… Follow her on Instagram at @mccalljonesofficial https://www.clickfunnelsconnect.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 28 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media This episode of The Russell Brunson Show takes you inside the ClickFunnels Connect event we just hosted in Salt Lake City. In the first part of the episode, I share what ClickFunnels Connect actually is, who it’s for, and why we believe it’s the next big chapter for funnel builders, entrepreneurs, and creators looking to grow faster by growing together. Then you’ll hear from one of our most powerful voices in the marketing world… McCall Jones! Her session on influence and authenticity blew everyone away, and I knew we had to share it with you here. If you’ve ever struggled to feel confident on camera… or wondered how to build real connection with your audience without trying to be someone you’re not… McCall breaks it all down with frameworks that are both simple and life-changing. Key Highlights: ◼️Why we created ClickFunnels Connect and how it’s helping entrepreneurs grow together ◼️The hidden reason most people feel awkward on camera (and how to fix it) ◼️How McCall uses the “Stage & Story” method to turn your personality into your superpower ◼️The difference between real influence and trying too hard to be “authentic” ◼️Why copying other marketers kills your connection — and what to do instead ◼️How to show up with more confidence, clarity, and presence in every piece of content This episode is packed with strategy, identity shifts, and the kind of clarity that can transform your marketing from the inside out. Whether you’re already showing up consistently or still finding your voice, McCall’s insights will change the way you think about influence forever. And if you love it and want more from McCall… Follow her on Instagram at @mccalljonesofficial https://www.clickfunnelsconnect.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode of The Russell Brunson Show takes you inside the ClickFunnels Connect event we just hosted in Salt Lake City.

In the first part of the episode, I share what ClickFunnels Connect actually is, who it’s for, and why we believe it’s the next big chapter for funnel builders, entrepreneurs, and creators looking to grow faster by growing together.

Then you’ll hear from one of our most powerful voices in the marketing world… McCall Jones! Her session on influence and authenticity blew everyone away, and I knew we had to share it with you here.

If you’ve ever struggled to feel confident on camera… or wondered how to build real connection with your audience without trying to be someone you’re not… McCall breaks it all down with frameworks that are both simple and life-changing.

Key Highlights:

◼️Why we created ClickFunnels Connect and how it’s helping entrepreneurs grow together

◼️The hidden reason most people feel awkward on camera (and how to fix it)

◼️How McCall uses the “Stage & Story” method to turn your personality into your superpower

◼️The difference between real influence and trying too hard to be “authentic”

◼️Why copying other marketers kills your connection — and what to do instead

◼️How to show up with more confidence, clarity, and presence in every piece of content

This episode is packed with strategy, identity shifts, and the kind of clarity that can transform your marketing from the inside out. Whether you’re already showing up consistently or still finding your voice, McCall’s insights will change the way you think about influence forever.

And if you love it and want more from McCall… Follow her on Instagram at @mccalljonesofficial

https://www.clickfunnelsconnect.com


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]]> 3151 Andy Elliott’s “No-Plan-B” Path to Building a 9-Figure Sales Machine | #Sales - Ep. 38 This one hit home! Andy Elliott didn’t just change his life… He helped change mine. In today’s episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with one of the most intense and inspiring sales leaders I know. Andy went from shooting his own YouTube videos on a phone to building a high-energy, nine-figure company that’s redefining what a sales culture can look like. We talk about the real origin story… No team, no budget, no fancy funnels. Just relentless volume, consistency, and the willingness to tell the truth when others would stay quiet. If you’re building a business, a brand, or trying to find your spark again, you’ll want to hear this. Key Highlights: ◼️How Andy built a global brand posting three YouTube videos a day before anyone knew his name ◼️What it really means to go “all in” without a plan B and why most people quit too soon ◼️Why the right culture beats the right funnel and how Andy built a team of 100 alphas ◼️How one $299 course launched a million-dollar month from pure organic content ◼️The real secret to staying on top: don’t let your fans, your team, or your family outgrow you ◼️Why your business stops the moment you hit cruise control Andy doesn’t hold back. His philosophy on pain, growth, and staying in the game is something every entrepreneur needs to hear. Whether you’re building your first offer or leading a team of 50, this episode will remind you what’s possible when you combine purpose with persistence. It’s not just about marketing or sales. It’s about becoming the kind of person who can lead the movement and stay in it for the long haul. And hey… if you want to follow Andy or get a hold of him… He literally said you could text him at 918-210-0254! Is that crazy, or what!!?  And you can also follow him on IG @officialandyelliott or find him on YouTube! Just search ‘Andy Elliott Sales’! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 26 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media This one hit home! Andy Elliott didn’t just change his life… He helped change mine. In today’s episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with one of the most intense and inspiring sales leaders I know. Andy went from shooting his own YouTube videos on a phone to building a high-energy, nine-figure company that’s redefining what a sales culture can look like. We talk about the real origin story… No team, no budget, no fancy funnels. Just relentless volume, consistency, and the willingness to tell the truth when others would stay quiet. If you’re building a business, a brand, or trying to find your spark again, you’ll want to hear this. Key Highlights: ◼️How Andy built a global brand posting three YouTube videos a day before anyone knew his name ◼️What it really means to go “all in” without a plan B and why most people quit too soon ◼️Why the right culture beats the right funnel and how Andy built a team of 100 alphas ◼️How one $299 course launched a million-dollar month from pure organic content ◼️The real secret to staying on top: don’t let your fans, your team, or your family outgrow you ◼️Why your business stops the moment you hit cruise control Andy doesn’t hold back. His philosophy on pain, growth, and staying in the game is something every entrepreneur needs to hear. Whether you’re building your first offer or leading a team of 50, this episode will remind you what’s possible when you combine purpose with persistence. It’s not just about marketing or sales. It’s about becoming the kind of person who can lead the movement and stay in it for the long haul. And hey… if you want to follow Andy or get a hold of him… He literally said you could text him at 918-210-0254! Is that crazy, or what!!?  And you can also follow him on IG @officialandyelliott or find him on YouTube! Just search ‘Andy Elliott Sales’! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This one hit home! Andy Elliott didn’t just change his life… He helped change mine. In today’s episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with one of the most intense and inspiring sales leaders I know. Andy went from shooting his own YouTube videos on a phone to building a high-energy, nine-figure company that’s redefining what a sales culture can look like.

We talk about the real origin story… No team, no budget, no fancy funnels. Just relentless volume, consistency, and the willingness to tell the truth when others would stay quiet. If you’re building a business, a brand, or trying to find your spark again, you’ll want to hear this.

Key Highlights:

◼️How Andy built a global brand posting three YouTube videos a day before anyone knew his name

◼️What it really means to go “all in” without a plan B and why most people quit too soon

◼️Why the right culture beats the right funnel and how Andy built a team of 100 alphas

◼️How one $299 course launched a million-dollar month from pure organic content

◼️The real secret to staying on top: don’t let your fans, your team, or your family outgrow you

◼️Why your business stops the moment you hit cruise control

Andy doesn’t hold back. His philosophy on pain, growth, and staying in the game is something every entrepreneur needs to hear. Whether you’re building your first offer or leading a team of 50, this episode will remind you what’s possible when you combine purpose with persistence. It’s not just about marketing or sales. It’s about becoming the kind of person who can lead the movement and stay in it for the long haul.

And hey… if you want to follow Andy or get a hold of him… He literally said you could text him at 918-210-0254! Is that crazy, or what!!? 


And you can also follow him on IG @officialandyelliott or find him on YouTube! Just search ‘Andy Elliott Sales’!


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3076 What Makes a Great Closer in 2025? Daniel G. Breaks It Down! | #Sales - Ep. 37 Daniel G has spoken on 750+ stages, trained over 2 million people, and been labeled the top sales trainer of 2024. I’ve been watching him online for a while, and after spending a few hours together in the office, I finally got to ask the questions I’ve wanted to ask for years.  That means this episode of The Russell Brunson Show is packed with some of the most powerful insights I’ve heard on one-on-one selling, buyer resistance, and the real reason your funnel might not be converting. If you’ve ever felt stuck closing, stressed building a team, or confused why great marketing still isn’t making sales, this episode will hit hard. Key Highlights: ◼️The No Resistance Sales (NRS) framework and how it flips traditional closing on its head ◼️What top closers do differently in the first call that eliminates long follow-up cycles ◼️Daniel’s perspective on buyer states and why you need to sell like a lamb, not a lion ◼️The difference between knowing your pitch and understanding why each line works ◼️How Daniel built his brand through live streams, events, and organic audience growth ◼️What most people get wrong when trying to break into stages or build a sales platform ◼️The $100,000 a month mindset shift that younger entrepreneurs need to hear Daniel’s been in the trenches of direct sales since he was 14. He’s trained teams, led stages, and built a massive global following not by playing the content game, but by mastering the fundamentals of communication, buyer psychology, and objection handling.  If your funnel isn’t converting, if your sales team feels stuck, or if you’ve just been coasting on good marketing but not seeing the ROI… This episode is a must-listen. You’ll walk away thinking differently about how to build trust, drop resistance, and actually move people to action. Check Daniel out on Instagram @danielghttps://www.instagram.com/danielg ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 21 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Daniel G has spoken on 750+ stages, trained over 2 million people, and been labeled the top sales trainer of 2024. I’ve been watching him online for a while, and after spending a few hours together in the office, I finally got to ask the questions I’ve wanted to ask for years.  That means this episode of The Russell Brunson Show is packed with some of the most powerful insights I’ve heard on one-on-one selling, buyer resistance, and the real reason your funnel might not be converting. If you’ve ever felt stuck closing, stressed building a team, or confused why great marketing still isn’t making sales, this episode will hit hard. Key Highlights: ◼️The No Resistance Sales (NRS) framework and how it flips traditional closing on its head ◼️What top closers do differently in the first call that eliminates long follow-up cycles ◼️Daniel’s perspective on buyer states and why you need to sell like a lamb, not a lion ◼️The difference between knowing your pitch and understanding why each line works ◼️How Daniel built his brand through live streams, events, and organic audience growth ◼️What most people get wrong when trying to break into stages or build a sales platform ◼️The $100,000 a month mindset shift that younger entrepreneurs need to hear Daniel’s been in the trenches of direct sales since he was 14. He’s trained teams, led stages, and built a massive global following not by playing the content game, but by mastering the fundamentals of communication, buyer psychology, and objection handling.  If your funnel isn’t converting, if your sales team feels stuck, or if you’ve just been coasting on good marketing but not seeing the ROI… This episode is a must-listen. You’ll walk away thinking differently about how to build trust, drop resistance, and actually move people to action. Check Daniel out on Instagram @danielghttps://www.instagram.com/danielg ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Daniel G has spoken on 750+ stages, trained over 2 million people, and been labeled the top sales trainer of 2024. I’ve been watching him online for a while, and after spending a few hours together in the office, I finally got to ask the questions I’ve wanted to ask for years. 

That means this episode of The Russell Brunson Show is packed with some of the most powerful insights I’ve heard on one-on-one selling, buyer resistance, and the real reason your funnel might not be converting.

If you’ve ever felt stuck closing, stressed building a team, or confused why great marketing still isn’t making sales, this episode will hit hard.

Key Highlights:

◼️The No Resistance Sales (NRS) framework and how it flips traditional closing on its head

◼️What top closers do differently in the first call that eliminates long follow-up cycles

◼️Daniel’s perspective on buyer states and why you need to sell like a lamb, not a lion

◼️The difference between knowing your pitch and understanding why each line works

◼️How Daniel built his brand through live streams, events, and organic audience growth

◼️What most people get wrong when trying to break into stages or build a sales platform

◼️The $100,000 a month mindset shift that younger entrepreneurs need to hear

Daniel’s been in the trenches of direct sales since he was 14. He’s trained teams, led stages, and built a massive global following not by playing the content game, but by mastering the fundamentals of communication, buyer psychology, and objection handling. 

If your funnel isn’t converting, if your sales team feels stuck, or if you’ve just been coasting on good marketing but not seeing the ROI… This episode is a must-listen. You’ll walk away thinking differently about how to build trust, drop resistance, and actually move people to action.

Check Daniel out on Instagram @danielghttps://www.instagram.com/danielg


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]]> 3088 The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36 What if you could finally stop spinning your wheels and just get unstuck? No more wondering if you’re doing it right, overthinking your offers, or second-guessing every funnel headline. Just honest, focused feedback from someone who’s been in the sales, marketing, and funnel trenches and knows what actually works. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take live questions from entrepreneurs inside the One Funnel Away Challenge. We get into everything from messaging mistakes and offer strategy to pricing confidence and how to get started without burning yourself out. If you’ve ever felt stuck, hesitant, or like you’re making this way harder than it needs to be, this episode will hit home. Key Highlights: ◼️How to sell someone else’s course without coaching, branding, or re-recording anything ◼️Why your funnel headline isn’t converting (and what to say instead) ◼️The mistake most experts make when they write copy and how to fix it in one sentence ◼️How I helped a hypnotherapist turn her skill into a scalable offer, even with a one-on-one model ◼️What to do when you’ve bought all the courses and still don’t know where to start If you’ve ever felt like you’re drowning in too much information or stuck trying to perfect something before launching, this episode will give you clarity. Sometimes it’s not about doing more. It’s about simplifying, focusing on the next right move, and building momentum with what you already have.  You’ll hear exactly how I walk people through that process in real time. Whether you’re a coach, creator, or expert, this will give you the confidence to take the next step without hesitation. Let’s get into it!! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 19 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media What if you could finally stop spinning your wheels and just get unstuck? No more wondering if you’re doing it right, overthinking your offers, or second-guessing every funnel headline. Just honest, focused feedback from someone who’s been in the sales, marketing, and funnel trenches and knows what actually works. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take live questions from entrepreneurs inside the One Funnel Away Challenge. We get into everything from messaging mistakes and offer strategy to pricing confidence and how to get started without burning yourself out. If you’ve ever felt stuck, hesitant, or like you’re making this way harder than it needs to be, this episode will hit home. Key Highlights: ◼️How to sell someone else’s course without coaching, branding, or re-recording anything ◼️Why your funnel headline isn’t converting (and what to say instead) ◼️The mistake most experts make when they write copy and how to fix it in one sentence ◼️How I helped a hypnotherapist turn her skill into a scalable offer, even with a one-on-one model ◼️What to do when you’ve bought all the courses and still don’t know where to start If you’ve ever felt like you’re drowning in too much information or stuck trying to perfect something before launching, this episode will give you clarity. Sometimes it’s not about doing more. It’s about simplifying, focusing on the next right move, and building momentum with what you already have.  You’ll hear exactly how I walk people through that process in real time. Whether you’re a coach, creator, or expert, this will give you the confidence to take the next step without hesitation. Let’s get into it!! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job’s visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What if you could finally stop spinning your wheels and just get unstuck? No more wondering if you’re doing it right, overthinking your offers, or second-guessing every funnel headline. Just honest, focused feedback from someone who’s been in the sales, marketing, and funnel trenches and knows what actually works.

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take live questions from entrepreneurs inside the One Funnel Away Challenge. We get into everything from messaging mistakes and offer strategy to pricing confidence and how to get started without burning yourself out. If you’ve ever felt stuck, hesitant, or like you’re making this way harder than it needs to be, this episode will hit home.

Key Highlights:

◼️How to sell someone else’s course without coaching, branding, or re-recording anything

◼️Why your funnel headline isn’t converting (and what to say instead)

◼️The mistake most experts make when they write copy and how to fix it in one sentence

◼️How I helped a hypnotherapist turn her skill into a scalable offer, even with a one-on-one model

◼️What to do when you’ve bought all the courses and still don’t know where to start

If you’ve ever felt like you’re drowning in too much information or stuck trying to perfect something before launching, this episode will give you clarity. Sometimes it’s not about doing more. It’s about simplifying, focusing on the next right move, and building momentum with what you already have. 

You’ll hear exactly how I walk people through that process in real time. Whether you’re a coach, creator, or expert, this will give you the confidence to take the next step without hesitation. Let’s get into it!!



◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3847 Scaling with Sanity: The Anti-Burnout Blueprint from Matt Gray | #Success - Ep. 35 What if you could build a thriving business, grow a massive audience, and still have the freedom to live life on your terms? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Matt Gray, an incredible entrepreneur and founder who’s done just that. After exiting his first company, building HERB into a 14-million-person media brand, and now leading Founder OS, Matt has figured out how to scale without stress, attract high-level talent, and turn content into consistent growth. If you’re an entrepreneur or creator trying to build a business and a life you love, this conversation is packed with frameworks and mindset shifts that can help you get there. Key Highlights: ◼️How Matt turns one long-form video into 30+ pieces of content across platforms ◼️The structure behind his organic content engine that brings in 12,000+ leads per month ◼️Why he avoids selling directly on social and what he does instead to convert cold traffic ◼️The systems and team setup that keep his business running while he travels the world ◼️How he overcame burnout, quit smoking and drinking, and rebuilt his health and energy ◼️What a founder-led brand really is and why it’s the key to long-term growth We also go deep into personal branding, content strategy, hiring, time freedom, and the hidden cost of sedating stress instead of solving it. Matt even shares his book-writing process, his thoughts on founder identity, and what it really takes to build something that lasts. This one’s not just about marketing and business. It’s about building a company that actually fits your life. Let’s dive in! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media What if you could build a thriving business, grow a massive audience, and still have the freedom to live life on your terms? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Matt Gray, an incredible entrepreneur and founder who’s done just that. After exiting his first company, building HERB into a 14-million-person media brand, and now leading Founder OS, Matt has figured out how to scale without stress, attract high-level talent, and turn content into consistent growth. If you’re an entrepreneur or creator trying to build a business and a life you love, this conversation is packed with frameworks and mindset shifts that can help you get there. Key Highlights: ◼️How Matt turns one long-form video into 30+ pieces of content across platforms ◼️The structure behind his organic content engine that brings in 12,000+ leads per month ◼️Why he avoids selling directly on social and what he does instead to convert cold traffic ◼️The systems and team setup that keep his business running while he travels the world ◼️How he overcame burnout, quit smoking and drinking, and rebuilt his health and energy ◼️What a founder-led brand really is and why it’s the key to long-term growth We also go deep into personal branding, content strategy, hiring, time freedom, and the hidden cost of sedating stress instead of solving it. Matt even shares his book-writing process, his thoughts on founder identity, and what it really takes to build something that lasts. This one’s not just about marketing and business. It’s about building a company that actually fits your life. Let’s dive in! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What if you could build a thriving business, grow a massive audience, and still have the freedom to live life on your terms?

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Matt Gray, an incredible entrepreneur and founder who’s done just that. After exiting his first company, building HERB into a 14-million-person media brand, and now leading Founder OS, Matt has figured out how to scale without stress, attract high-level talent, and turn content into consistent growth.

If you’re an entrepreneur or creator trying to build a business and a life you love, this conversation is packed with frameworks and mindset shifts that can help you get there.

Key Highlights:

◼️How Matt turns one long-form video into 30+ pieces of content across platforms

◼️The structure behind his organic content engine that brings in 12,000+ leads per month

◼️Why he avoids selling directly on social and what he does instead to convert cold traffic

◼️The systems and team setup that keep his business running while he travels the world

◼️How he overcame burnout, quit smoking and drinking, and rebuilt his health and energy

◼️What a founder-led brand really is and why it’s the key to long-term growth

We also go deep into personal branding, content strategy, hiring, time freedom, and the hidden cost of sedating stress instead of solving it. Matt even shares his book-writing process, his thoughts on founder identity, and what it really takes to build something that lasts.

This one’s not just about marketing and business. It’s about building a company that actually fits your life.

Let’s dive in!


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3841 How to Turn Your Voice Into Revenue: Dr. Sonja’s Playbook | #Success - Ep. 34 What if your voice was the most valuable asset in your business? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Dr. Sonja Stribling, speaker, coach, Army veteran, and the powerhouse behind a $28 million brand built from a single outline and a willingness to say yes. In just the past three years, she has gone from speaking on borrowed stages to becoming the “General to Giants,” helping thousands of entrepreneurs build businesses by turning their story into their superpower. We unpacked how she transitioned from divorce coach to business mogul, how she closes millions from the stage, and the internal battles she had to conquer to unlock it all. This is all valuable insights you can take from her and apply directly to you and your business right now! Key Highlights: ◼️The mindset shift that helped her go from struggling coach to 8-figure business owner ◼️How a single $10K offer with no product changed the course of her career ◼️Why most people undervalue their superpower, especially when it feels “easy” ◼️Her five-part framework that includes speaking, books, coaching, and events ◼️How she helps others monetize their voice and build real brands, not just funnels ◼️The exact moment her imposter syndrome showed up and how she shut it down ◼️Her system for selling other people’s offers and making millions in commissions ◼️Why being great on stage is not optional if you want to scale ◼️What makes this game more than just a business… It’s a sport Whether you're just starting out or ready to step onto a stage and scale, Dr. Sonja brings the fire, the strategy, and the truth about what it really takes to grow something meaningful. Follow her on social @iamdrsonja or visit drsonjabrands.com to connect with her coaching programs, events, and training. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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We unpacked how she transitioned from divorce coach to business mogul, how she closes millions from the stage, and the internal battles she had to conquer to unlock it all. This is all valuable insights you can take from her and apply directly to you and your business right now! Key Highlights: ◼️The mindset shift that helped her go from struggling coach to 8-figure business owner ◼️How a single $10K offer with no product changed the course of her career ◼️Why most people undervalue their superpower, especially when it feels “easy” ◼️Her five-part framework that includes speaking, books, coaching, and events ◼️How she helps others monetize their voice and build real brands, not just funnels ◼️The exact moment her imposter syndrome showed up and how she shut it down ◼️Her system for selling other people’s offers and making millions in commissions ◼️Why being great on stage is not optional if you want to scale ◼️What makes this game more than just a business… It’s a sport Whether you're just starting out or ready to step onto a stage and scale, Dr. Sonja brings the fire, the strategy, and the truth about what it really takes to grow something meaningful. Follow her on social @iamdrsonja or visit drsonjabrands.com to connect with her coaching programs, events, and training. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Dr. Sonja Stribling, speaker, coach, Army veteran, and the powerhouse behind a $28 million brand built from a single outline and a willingness to say yes. In just the past three years, she has gone from speaking on borrowed stages to becoming the “General to Giants,” helping thousands of entrepreneurs build businesses by turning their story into their superpower.

We unpacked how she transitioned from divorce coach to business mogul, how she closes millions from the stage, and the internal battles she had to conquer to unlock it all. This is all valuable insights you can take from her and apply directly to you and your business right now!

Key Highlights:

◼️The mindset shift that helped her go from struggling coach to 8-figure business owner

◼️How a single $10K offer with no product changed the course of her career

◼️Why most people undervalue their superpower, especially when it feels “easy”

◼️Her five-part framework that includes speaking, books, coaching, and events

◼️How she helps others monetize their voice and build real brands, not just funnels

◼️The exact moment her imposter syndrome showed up and how she shut it down

◼️Her system for selling other people’s offers and making millions in commissions

◼️Why being great on stage is not optional if you want to scale

◼️What makes this game more than just a business… It’s a sport


Whether you're just starting out or ready to step onto a stage and scale, Dr. Sonja brings the fire, the strategy, and the truth about what it really takes to grow something meaningful.


Follow her on social @iamdrsonja or visit drsonjabrands.com to connect with her coaching programs, events, and training.


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 1999 Merging Faith, Business, and Generosity with Larry and Staci Wallace | #Success - Ep. 33 What happens when you stop chasing money… and start building a business around calling, purpose, and peace? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Larry and Staci Wallace, founders of Fueled by Fire and two of the most faith-driven entrepreneurs I’ve ever met. Their story isn’t just inspiring… It’s wild!!  They once gave up everything (yes, everything) in obedience to a prompting from God… and what happened next will challenge the way you think about success, giving, and what's really driving your business. Whether you're a faith-based founder or just feeling the pull toward something more, this conversation goes deep into the purpose behind your profits. Key Highlights: ◼️ The story of how Larry and Staci gave away everything… And what God did next ◼️ How they teach CEOs to shift from chasing revenue to building legacy through generosity ◼️ Why they believe peace - not success - is the new metric that matters ◼️ The “D.O.G.E.” framework they use to help business owners scale with operational and spiritual integrity ◼️ How they tie every offer to a mission, and require their clients to do the same ◼️ Why your calling is your business (and how to finally merge the two) ◼️ Their bold approach to faith-first decision making… Even when it makes zero financial sense This isn't your typical business, sales, and marketing podcast episode. It's about building companies that honor your values, serve others, and still scale to 8-figures and beyond. If you've ever felt the tension between business and belief, Larry and Staci will help you see how your funnel can become a force for good. You can learn more and join their next challenge at fbfchallenge.com. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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Whether you're a faith-based founder or just feeling the pull toward something more, this conversation goes deep into the purpose behind your profits. Key Highlights: ◼️ The story of how Larry and Staci gave away everything… And what God did next ◼️ How they teach CEOs to shift from chasing revenue to building legacy through generosity ◼️ Why they believe peace - not success - is the new metric that matters ◼️ The “D.O.G.E.” framework they use to help business owners scale with operational and spiritual integrity ◼️ How they tie every offer to a mission, and require their clients to do the same ◼️ Why your calling is your business (and how to finally merge the two) ◼️ Their bold approach to faith-first decision making… Even when it makes zero financial sense This isn't your typical business, sales, and marketing podcast episode. It's about building companies that honor your values, serve others, and still scale to 8-figures and beyond. If you've ever felt the tension between business and belief, Larry and Staci will help you see how your funnel can become a force for good. You can learn more and join their next challenge at fbfchallenge.com. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. 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In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Larry and Staci Wallace, founders of Fueled by Fire and two of the most faith-driven entrepreneurs I’ve ever met. Their story isn’t just inspiring… It’s wild!! 

They once gave up everything (yes, everything) in obedience to a prompting from God… and what happened next will challenge the way you think about success, giving, and what's really driving your business.

Whether you're a faith-based founder or just feeling the pull toward something more, this conversation goes deep into the purpose behind your profits.

Key Highlights:

◼️ The story of how Larry and Staci gave away everything… And what God did next

◼️ How they teach CEOs to shift from chasing revenue to building legacy through generosity

◼️ Why they believe peace - not success - is the new metric that matters

◼️ The “D.O.G.E.” framework they use to help business owners scale with operational and spiritual integrity

◼️ How they tie every offer to a mission, and require their clients to do the same

◼️ Why your calling is your business (and how to finally merge the two)

◼️ Their bold approach to faith-first decision making… Even when it makes zero financial sense


This isn't your typical business, sales, and marketing podcast episode. It's about building companies that honor your values, serve others, and still scale to 8-figures and beyond.

If you've ever felt the tension between business and belief, Larry and Staci will help you see how your funnel can become a force for good.


You can learn more and join their next challenge at fbfchallenge.com.

◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2273 Damon Burton’s 3-Part SEO Strategy Funnel Builders Are Missing | #Marketing - Ep. 32 What happens when you combine the speed of funnels with the long-term power of SEO? That’s what I wanted to explore with my guest, Damon Burton… The founder of SEO National and the guy who’s been running SEO for me, Tony Robbins, the Utah Jazz, and dozens of others. He’s also been in my Inner Circle for over 4 years, and when it comes to search traffic, nobody breaks it down more clearly. Most people in the funnel world have written off SEO as “dead”… but Damon showed me how it’s not only alive, it’s evolving in some insanely profitable ways! Especially if you're using ClickFunnels 2.0!! We covered: ◼️Why SEO is still growing (even in the age of AI and ChatGPT) ◼️The 3 pillars of modern SEO that never go out of style ◼️What schema is… And how it gives you an edge in Google rankings ◼️How to structure your site (and your content) for compounding traffic ◼️The one SEO tool Damon uses that every funnel builder should know ◼️Why backlinks aren’t as important as you’ve been told ◼️How Damon turned his SEO agency into a 6-figure course business using Inner Circle strategies We even geeked out on some of my own funnels… Including SecretsOfSuccess.com, and what his team is doing behind the scenes to drive more evergreen traffic every month. If you’ve been relying on ads alone to fuel your business, this episode is a must-listen. SEO isn’t a replacement for funnels… It’s the multiplier most people are missing. Want to work with Damon or learn more about his SEO training? Visit damonburton.com. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 05 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media What happens when you combine the speed of funnels with the long-term power of SEO? That’s what I wanted to explore with my guest, Damon Burton… The founder of SEO National and the guy who’s been running SEO for me, Tony Robbins, the Utah Jazz, and dozens of others. He’s also been in my Inner Circle for over 4 years, and when it comes to search traffic, nobody breaks it down more clearly. Most people in the funnel world have written off SEO as “dead”… but Damon showed me how it’s not only alive, it’s evolving in some insanely profitable ways! Especially if you're using ClickFunnels 2.0!! We covered: ◼️Why SEO is still growing (even in the age of AI and ChatGPT) ◼️The 3 pillars of modern SEO that never go out of style ◼️What schema is… And how it gives you an edge in Google rankings ◼️How to structure your site (and your content) for compounding traffic ◼️The one SEO tool Damon uses that every funnel builder should know ◼️Why backlinks aren’t as important as you’ve been told ◼️How Damon turned his SEO agency into a 6-figure course business using Inner Circle strategies We even geeked out on some of my own funnels… Including SecretsOfSuccess.com, and what his team is doing behind the scenes to drive more evergreen traffic every month. If you’ve been relying on ads alone to fuel your business, this episode is a must-listen. SEO isn’t a replacement for funnels… It’s the multiplier most people are missing. Want to work with Damon or learn more about his SEO training? Visit damonburton.com. ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What happens when you combine the speed of funnels with the long-term power of SEO? That’s what I wanted to explore with my guest, Damon Burton… The founder of SEO National and the guy who’s been running SEO for me, Tony Robbins, the Utah Jazz, and dozens of others. He’s also been in my Inner Circle for over 4 years, and when it comes to search traffic, nobody breaks it down more clearly.

Most people in the funnel world have written off SEO as “dead”… but Damon showed me how it’s not only alive, it’s evolving in some insanely profitable ways! Especially if you're using ClickFunnels 2.0!!

We covered:

◼️Why SEO is still growing (even in the age of AI and ChatGPT)

◼️The 3 pillars of modern SEO that never go out of style

◼️What schema is… And how it gives you an edge in Google rankings

◼️How to structure your site (and your content) for compounding traffic

◼️The one SEO tool Damon uses that every funnel builder should know

◼️Why backlinks aren’t as important as you’ve been told

◼️How Damon turned his SEO agency into a 6-figure course business using Inner Circle strategies


We even geeked out on some of my own funnels… Including SecretsOfSuccess.com, and what his team is doing behind the scenes to drive more evergreen traffic every month.

If you’ve been relying on ads alone to fuel your business, this episode is a must-listen. SEO isn’t a replacement for funnels… It’s the multiplier most people are missing.


Want to work with Damon or learn more about his SEO training? Visit damonburton.com.

◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2063 Subconscious Resistance: Inside the Belief Coding Process with Jessica Cunningham | #Success - Ep. 31 This episode of The Russell Brunson Show might change the way you think about what’s really holding you back. I sat down with Jessica Cunningham, founder of Belief Coding®, to talk about the invisible patterns that run our lives, our businesses, and even our health. I first met Jessica in London, and the more I heard her talk about subconscious beliefs and identity shifts, the more I knew I needed to get her on the show. This isn’t about mindset fluff. It’s about the deep, often hidden programming that can keep you stuck no matter how good your funnel is. We talked about: ◼️The link between trauma, identity, and success ◼️Why high-achievers often sabotage themselves right before they hit their goals ◼️How unresolved beliefs can show up as physical pain, anxiety, or even back problems ◼️What “belief coding” actually looks like in practice ◼️Why your brain might be trying to protect you from getting what you say you want ◼️How to spot the subconscious resistance patterns in your own life She even challenged me to look at what my torn biceps might be telling me… and I’m not gonna lie, I think she’s onto something. Whether you're scaling your business or just trying to get unstuck, this episode will make you look at your internal game in a whole new way. Want to dive deeper into Jessica's world of belief coding and subconscious rewiring? Follow her on Instagram at @belief_coding! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media This episode of The Russell Brunson Show might change the way you think about what’s really holding you back. I sat down with Jessica Cunningham, founder of Belief Coding®, to talk about the invisible patterns that run our lives, our businesses, and even our health. I first met Jessica in London, and the more I heard her talk about subconscious beliefs and identity shifts, the more I knew I needed to get her on the show. This isn’t about mindset fluff. It’s about the deep, often hidden programming that can keep you stuck no matter how good your funnel is. We talked about: ◼️The link between trauma, identity, and success ◼️Why high-achievers often sabotage themselves right before they hit their goals ◼️How unresolved beliefs can show up as physical pain, anxiety, or even back problems ◼️What “belief coding” actually looks like in practice ◼️Why your brain might be trying to protect you from getting what you say you want ◼️How to spot the subconscious resistance patterns in your own life She even challenged me to look at what my torn biceps might be telling me… and I’m not gonna lie, I think she’s onto something. Whether you're scaling your business or just trying to get unstuck, this episode will make you look at your internal game in a whole new way. Want to dive deeper into Jessica's world of belief coding and subconscious rewiring? Follow her on Instagram at @belief_coding! ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode of The Russell Brunson Show might change the way you think about what’s really holding you back.

I sat down with Jessica Cunningham, founder of Belief Coding®, to talk about the invisible patterns that run our lives, our businesses, and even our health. I first met Jessica in London, and the more I heard her talk about subconscious beliefs and identity shifts, the more I knew I needed to get her on the show.

This isn’t about mindset fluff. It’s about the deep, often hidden programming that can keep you stuck no matter how good your funnel is.

We talked about:

◼️The link between trauma, identity, and success

◼️Why high-achievers often sabotage themselves right before they hit their goals

◼️How unresolved beliefs can show up as physical pain, anxiety, or even back problems

◼️What “belief coding” actually looks like in practice

◼️Why your brain might be trying to protect you from getting what you say you want

◼️How to spot the subconscious resistance patterns in your own life


She even challenged me to look at what my torn biceps might be telling me… and I’m not gonna lie, I think she’s onto something.

Whether you're scaling your business or just trying to get unstuck, this episode will make you look at your internal game in a whole new way.


Want to dive deeper into Jessica's world of belief coding and subconscious rewiring? Follow her on Instagram at @belief_coding!

◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 1997 The Silent Funnel Killer That Nobody Warned You About | #Sales - Ep. 30 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m bringing you inside one of our weekly VIP Q&A calls from the One Funnel Away Challenge… and I got on my soapbox for this Q&A for sure! I definitely had some thoughts to share! Haha! I don’t do a lot of these Q&As on the main podcast anymore, but this one was too good not to share. We talked about offer sequencing, webinar funnels, why most people are overwhelmed, and how to actually build momentum without building 47 funnels at once. Someone asked, “Should I build the course first, or sell it first?” Another asked, “Should I share my price on a $2,000 offer or send people to a call?” And a few just said, “I’m stuck and don’t know what to focus on next.” That’s when I started going off… because these are the exact mistakes that keep people broke. So this episode is for the overwhelmed entrepreneur who’s doing everything… Or building the wrong thing… And wondering why the money isn’t coming in yet. If that’s you, this might be the reset you need. Key Highlights: ◼️Why I hate when people build the course before they sell it ◼️How to build a webinar that closes - even if you’re not good at selling ◼️The weekly rhythm that helped me go from idea to 2 Comma Club ◼️What to do if you’re scared of selling (but still want to make money) ◼️The easiest path to your first 2 or 3 high-ticket sales without a call center ◼️And why the people who last 10+ years always have a killer front-end offer Plus… If you haven’t joined the new version of OFA yet, go to OneFunnelAway.com. It’s completely free for ClickFunnels members, and I do calls like this almost every Friday.  Come hang out. ⁠https://30days.com⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m bringing you inside one of our weekly VIP Q&A calls from the One Funnel Away Challenge… and I got on my soapbox for this Q&A for sure! I definitely had some thoughts to share! Haha! I don’t do a lot of these Q&As on the main podcast anymore, but this one was too good not to share. We talked about offer sequencing, webinar funnels, why most people are overwhelmed, and how to actually build momentum without building 47 funnels at once. Someone asked, “Should I build the course first, or sell it first?” Another asked, “Should I share my price on a $2,000 offer or send people to a call?” And a few just said, “I’m stuck and don’t know what to focus on next.” That’s when I started going off… because these are the exact mistakes that keep people broke. So this episode is for the overwhelmed entrepreneur who’s doing everything… Or building the wrong thing… And wondering why the money isn’t coming in yet. If that’s you, this might be the reset you need. Key Highlights: ◼️Why I hate when people build the course before they sell it ◼️How to build a webinar that closes - even if you’re not good at selling ◼️The weekly rhythm that helped me go from idea to 2 Comma Club ◼️What to do if you’re scared of selling (but still want to make money) ◼️The easiest path to your first 2 or 3 high-ticket sales without a call center ◼️And why the people who last 10+ years always have a killer front-end offer Plus… If you haven’t joined the new version of OFA yet, go to OneFunnelAway.com. It’s completely free for ClickFunnels members, and I do calls like this almost every Friday.  Come hang out. ⁠https://30days.com⁠ ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m bringing you inside one of our weekly VIP Q&A calls from the One Funnel Away Challenge… and I got on my soapbox for this Q&A for sure! I definitely had some thoughts to share! Haha!

I don’t do a lot of these Q&As on the main podcast anymore, but this one was too good not to share. We talked about offer sequencing, webinar funnels, why most people are overwhelmed, and how to actually build momentum without building 47 funnels at once.

Someone asked, “Should I build the course first, or sell it first?”

Another asked, “Should I share my price on a $2,000 offer or send people to a call?”

And a few just said, “I’m stuck and don’t know what to focus on next.”

That’s when I started going off… because these are the exact mistakes that keep people broke.

So this episode is for the overwhelmed entrepreneur who’s doing everything… Or building the wrong thing… And wondering why the money isn’t coming in yet.

If that’s you, this might be the reset you need.

Key Highlights:

◼️Why I hate when people build the course before they sell it

◼️How to build a webinar that closes - even if you’re not good at selling

◼️The weekly rhythm that helped me go from idea to 2 Comma Club

◼️What to do if you’re scared of selling (but still want to make money)

◼️The easiest path to your first 2 or 3 high-ticket sales without a call center

◼️And why the people who last 10+ years always have a killer front-end offer


Plus… If you haven’t joined the new version of OFA yet, go to OneFunnelAway.com. It’s completely free for ClickFunnels members, and I do calls like this almost every Friday. 

Come hang out.

⁠https://30days.com⁠


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3500 This Sales Funnel Gap is Killing Your Conversions (Here’s the Fix) | #Marketing - Ep. 29 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re going deep into the funnel foundations that actually build sustainable businesses… And dismantling the flawed logic that’s everywhere in online marketing right now. It all started with a question from my friend and longtime funnel architect Jake Leslie: Why are so many people skipping the core $97–$297 offer? Why do so many funnels go straight from free lead magnet to high-ticket sale, and then wonder why nothing converts? Jake’s rant sparked one of my longest solo riffs ever… And it turned into a full-on masterclass in value ladders, offer sequencing, business longevity, and the difference between strategy and tactics. If you’ve ever wondered why your funnel isn't converting the way you want it to… This episode might save your business. Key Highlights: ◼️Why “free opt-in → high-ticket call” worked for a season (but won’t anymore) ◼️The real reason 90% of online businesses flame out in 18 months or less ◼️What Dan Kennedy taught me about the evolution of advertising costs - and why it changes everything ◼️Why value ladders still matter more than ever (despite what modern marketers claim) ◼️How to keep your audience buying from you week after week with strategic offers ◼️What Napoleon Hill was teaching about customer acquisition back in 1917 (and why it still applies) ◼️The metrics behind our $100 front-end offer and how it ascends 5.5% of buyers into high-ticket coaching ◼️The actual difference between marketers who last 25 years… and those who peak for 25 months This is the kind of episode you’ll want to re-listen to - especially if you’re in that weird zone where people are clicking, leads are coming in, but nothing is converting. The problem isn’t your funnel. The problem is your value ladder is broken… or missing entirely. Let’s fix that. https://30days.com https://clickfunnelsdropshipping.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re going deep into the funnel foundations that actually build sustainable businesses… And dismantling the flawed logic that’s everywhere in online marketing right now. It all started with a question from my friend and longtime funnel architect Jake Leslie: Why are so many people skipping the core $97–$297 offer? Why do so many funnels go straight from free lead magnet to high-ticket sale, and then wonder why nothing converts? Jake’s rant sparked one of my longest solo riffs ever… And it turned into a full-on masterclass in value ladders, offer sequencing, business longevity, and the difference between strategy and tactics. If you’ve ever wondered why your funnel isn't converting the way you want it to… This episode might save your business. Key Highlights: ◼️Why “free opt-in → high-ticket call” worked for a season (but won’t anymore) ◼️The real reason 90% of online businesses flame out in 18 months or less ◼️What Dan Kennedy taught me about the evolution of advertising costs - and why it changes everything ◼️Why value ladders still matter more than ever (despite what modern marketers claim) ◼️How to keep your audience buying from you week after week with strategic offers ◼️What Napoleon Hill was teaching about customer acquisition back in 1917 (and why it still applies) ◼️The metrics behind our $100 front-end offer and how it ascends 5.5% of buyers into high-ticket coaching ◼️The actual difference between marketers who last 25 years… and those who peak for 25 months This is the kind of episode you’ll want to re-listen to - especially if you’re in that weird zone where people are clicking, leads are coming in, but nothing is converting. The problem isn’t your funnel. The problem is your value ladder is broken… or missing entirely. Let’s fix that. https://30days.com https://clickfunnelsdropshipping.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re going deep into the funnel foundations that actually build sustainable businesses… And dismantling the flawed logic that’s everywhere in online marketing right now.


It all started with a question from my friend and longtime funnel architect Jake Leslie: Why are so many people skipping the core $97–$297 offer? Why do so many funnels go straight from free lead magnet to high-ticket sale, and then wonder why nothing converts?


Jake’s rant sparked one of my longest solo riffs ever… And it turned into a full-on masterclass in value ladders, offer sequencing, business longevity, and the difference between strategy and tactics. If you’ve ever wondered why your funnel isn't converting the way you want it to… This episode might save your business.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why “free opt-in → high-ticket call” worked for a season (but won’t anymore)

◼️The real reason 90% of online businesses flame out in 18 months or less

◼️What Dan Kennedy taught me about the evolution of advertising costs - and why it changes everything

◼️Why value ladders still matter more than ever (despite what modern marketers claim)

◼️How to keep your audience buying from you week after week with strategic offers

◼️What Napoleon Hill was teaching about customer acquisition back in 1917 (and why it still applies)

◼️The metrics behind our $100 front-end offer and how it ascends 5.5% of buyers into high-ticket coaching

◼️The actual difference between marketers who last 25 years… and those who peak for 25 months


This is the kind of episode you’ll want to re-listen to - especially if you’re in that weird zone where people are clicking, leads are coming in, but nothing is converting.


The problem isn’t your funnel. The problem is your value ladder is broken… or missing entirely. Let’s fix that.


https://30days.com

https://clickfunnelsdropshipping.com


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2591 Zendrop: Your Secret Weapon for Selling Physical Products with Funnels | #Marketing - Ep. 28 What started as one guy handing out business cards for hoverboards turned into a $10M dropshipping empire… And eventually became Zendrop, a software platform now integrated directly with ClickFunnels. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Zendrop founders Jared Goetz and Brad Kauffman to talk about how they built their fulfillment empire, the exact system they use to test 100+ products a week, and how YOU can now launch your own store super fast  without touching inventory or buying a single product upfront!! Insane, right!? If you’ve ever wanted to start an ecommerce business but didn’t know where to begin (or felt overwhelmed by products, suppliers, and tech), this episode will open your eyes to how simple it can actually be. Key Highlights: ◼️How Jared built a $10M store in 60 days… with zero inventory ◼️The “launch fast” mindset that separates successful sellers from stuck ones ◼️Why Zendrop ditched 1,000+ suppliers to build their own backend system ◼️How to spot viral product trends (and ride them before they fizzle out) ◼️Why you don’t need to show your face to crush it on TikTok ◼️The best way to test 20+ products a week (without blowing your budget) ◼️How to bundle physical and digital products into one powerhouse funnel ◼️What 3M+ Zendrop users are doing right now to scale online businesses ◼️Why this new ClickFunnels integration might be the biggest ecommerce unlock yet Whether you’re brand new to online business or looking for your next big product idea, this conversation is packed with gold. No fluff. Just real strategy, real numbers, and a clear path you can follow to build something that actually works. 👉 Register for the free ClickFunnels x Zendrop training now: clickfunnelsdropshipping.com https://30days.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media What started as one guy handing out business cards for hoverboards turned into a $10M dropshipping empire… And eventually became Zendrop, a software platform now integrated directly with ClickFunnels. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Zendrop founders Jared Goetz and Brad Kauffman to talk about how they built their fulfillment empire, the exact system they use to test 100+ products a week, and how YOU can now launch your own store super fast  without touching inventory or buying a single product upfront!! Insane, right!? If you’ve ever wanted to start an ecommerce business but didn’t know where to begin (or felt overwhelmed by products, suppliers, and tech), this episode will open your eyes to how simple it can actually be. Key Highlights: ◼️How Jared built a $10M store in 60 days… with zero inventory ◼️The “launch fast” mindset that separates successful sellers from stuck ones ◼️Why Zendrop ditched 1,000+ suppliers to build their own backend system ◼️How to spot viral product trends (and ride them before they fizzle out) ◼️Why you don’t need to show your face to crush it on TikTok ◼️The best way to test 20+ products a week (without blowing your budget) ◼️How to bundle physical and digital products into one powerhouse funnel ◼️What 3M+ Zendrop users are doing right now to scale online businesses ◼️Why this new ClickFunnels integration might be the biggest ecommerce unlock yet Whether you’re brand new to online business or looking for your next big product idea, this conversation is packed with gold. No fluff. Just real strategy, real numbers, and a clear path you can follow to build something that actually works. 👉 Register for the free ClickFunnels x Zendrop training now: clickfunnelsdropshipping.com https://30days.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What started as one guy handing out business cards for hoverboards turned into a $10M dropshipping empire… And eventually became Zendrop, a software platform now integrated directly with ClickFunnels.


In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Zendrop founders Jared Goetz and Brad Kauffman to talk about how they built their fulfillment empire, the exact system they use to test 100+ products a week, and how YOU can now launch your own store super fast  without touching inventory or buying a single product upfront!!

Insane, right!?


If you’ve ever wanted to start an ecommerce business but didn’t know where to begin (or felt overwhelmed by products, suppliers, and tech), this episode will open your eyes to how simple it can actually be.


Key Highlights:

◼️How Jared built a $10M store in 60 days… with zero inventory

◼️The “launch fast” mindset that separates successful sellers from stuck ones

◼️Why Zendrop ditched 1,000+ suppliers to build their own backend system

◼️How to spot viral product trends (and ride them before they fizzle out)

◼️Why you don’t need to show your face to crush it on TikTok

◼️The best way to test 20+ products a week (without blowing your budget)

◼️How to bundle physical and digital products into one powerhouse funnel

◼️What 3M+ Zendrop users are doing right now to scale online businesses

◼️Why this new ClickFunnels integration might be the biggest ecommerce unlock yet


Whether you’re brand new to online business or looking for your next big product idea, this conversation is packed with gold. No fluff. Just real strategy, real numbers, and a clear path you can follow to build something that actually works.


👉 Register for the free ClickFunnels x Zendrop training now: clickfunnelsdropshipping.com

https://30days.com


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2326 The Belief Shift That Made Taylor Welch Finally Break Through | #Marketing - Ep. 27 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing Taylor Welch’s unforgettable Funnel Hacking Live presentation… a powerful deep dive into personal growth, belief systems, and what it really takes to unlock power and authority in your life. Taylor doesn’t just talk about success... he breaks down how to reprogram your identity, collapse time, and start operating from a completely different level of mindset and action. We talk about parenting, business, God, and the decision that led Taylor to give away his $78M company, all while giving you the exact belief and behavior shifts that helped him build (and rebuild) extraordinary businesses and a meaningful life. This isn’t your typical marketing advice… it’s the kind of internal work that unlocks everything else. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why most funnels don’t convert (and why selling is the real problem) ◼️ The difference between force and power in business ◼️ The moment Taylor realized his identity was capping his income ◼️ The “belief → emotion → action” framework that runs your life ◼️ How to stop repeating the same mistakes… and learn the real lesson ◼️ Why reframing regret might be the fastest path to momentum ◼️ How to jump time and unlock results in months, not years If you’ve ever felt stuck… like you're circling the same mountain… this episode will challenge the way you think about business, identity, and growth, and show you how to finally get unstuck and move forward with clarity. https://30days.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing Taylor Welch’s unforgettable Funnel Hacking Live presentation… a powerful deep dive into personal growth, belief systems, and what it really takes to unlock power and authority in your life. Taylor doesn’t just talk about success... he breaks down how to reprogram your identity, collapse time, and start operating from a completely different level of mindset and action. We talk about parenting, business, God, and the decision that led Taylor to give away his $78M company, all while giving you the exact belief and behavior shifts that helped him build (and rebuild) extraordinary businesses and a meaningful life. This isn’t your typical marketing advice… it’s the kind of internal work that unlocks everything else. Key Highlights: ◼️ Why most funnels don’t convert (and why selling is the real problem) ◼️ The difference between force and power in business ◼️ The moment Taylor realized his identity was capping his income ◼️ The “belief → emotion → action” framework that runs your life ◼️ How to stop repeating the same mistakes… and learn the real lesson ◼️ Why reframing regret might be the fastest path to momentum ◼️ How to jump time and unlock results in months, not years If you’ve ever felt stuck… like you're circling the same mountain… this episode will challenge the way you think about business, identity, and growth, and show you how to finally get unstuck and move forward with clarity. https://30days.com ◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way)  Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m sharing Taylor Welch’s unforgettable Funnel Hacking Live presentation… a powerful deep dive into personal growth, belief systems, and what it really takes to unlock power and authority in your life. Taylor doesn’t just talk about success... he breaks down how to reprogram your identity, collapse time, and start operating from a completely different level of mindset and action.


We talk about parenting, business, God, and the decision that led Taylor to give away his $78M company, all while giving you the exact belief and behavior shifts that helped him build (and rebuild) extraordinary businesses and a meaningful life.


This isn’t your typical marketing advice… it’s the kind of internal work that unlocks everything else.

Key Highlights:

◼️ Why most funnels don’t convert (and why selling is the real problem)

◼️ The difference between force and power in business

◼️ The moment Taylor realized his identity was capping his income

◼️ The “belief → emotion → action” framework that runs your life

◼️ How to stop repeating the same mistakes… and learn the real lesson

◼️ Why reframing regret might be the fastest path to momentum

◼️ How to jump time and unlock results in months, not years


If you’ve ever felt stuck… like you're circling the same mountain… this episode will challenge the way you think about business, identity, and growth, and show you how to finally get unstuck and move forward with clarity.

https://30days.com


◼️ If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea…

I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) 

Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3122 Eric Thayne’s 60-Second Perfect Webinar: The Secret To Killer Organic Content | #Marketing - Ep. 26 If you're building a business online, at some point you’ve probably heard: “You need to create content.” But what does that actually look like? And how do you do it without burning out, dancing on TikTok, or spending 40 hours a week on Reels that nobody sees? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Eric Thayne… The creator, filmmaker, and author of Create, Don’t Capture.  He breaks down the exact system he used to go from $100K in debt to rebuilding his business entirely with organic content. We go deep on Eric’s viral framework (aka The 60-Second Perfect Webinar), how to turn everyday ideas into scroll-stopping videos, and why most people massively overcomplicate their content strategy. If you’re trying to grow an audience, get more eyeballs on your funnels, or just finally show up online consistently… You’re gonna love this episode!  ◼️The 60-Second Perfect Webinar: Eric’s viral video framework ◼️Why creating content is more important than running ads ◼️The fastest way to come up with endless content ideas (even if you feel like you have nothing to say) ◼️Why documenting your journey beats waiting for perfection ◼️How to test hooks and content for free (before ever spending money on ads) ◼️The 3 types of content every creator should be posting (and how to balance them) Whether you're just getting started or you're already spending big on ads, this episode will challenge the way you think about content!!  AND… it will show you how to finally build an audience that actually converts!  Grab Eric’s new book Create, Don’t Capture (limited edition copies might still be available) → createdontcapture.com https://30days.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you're building a business online, at some point you’ve probably heard: “You need to create content.” But what does that actually look like? And how do you do it without burning out, dancing on TikTok, or spending 40 hours a week on Reels that nobody sees? In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Eric Thayne… The creator, filmmaker, and author of Create, Don’t Capture.  He breaks down the exact system he used to go from $100K in debt to rebuilding his business entirely with organic content. We go deep on Eric’s viral framework (aka The 60-Second Perfect Webinar), how to turn everyday ideas into scroll-stopping videos, and why most people massively overcomplicate their content strategy. If you’re trying to grow an audience, get more eyeballs on your funnels, or just finally show up online consistently… You’re gonna love this episode!  ◼️The 60-Second Perfect Webinar: Eric’s viral video framework ◼️Why creating content is more important than running ads ◼️The fastest way to come up with endless content ideas (even if you feel like you have nothing to say) ◼️Why documenting your journey beats waiting for perfection ◼️How to test hooks and content for free (before ever spending money on ads) ◼️The 3 types of content every creator should be posting (and how to balance them) Whether you're just getting started or you're already spending big on ads, this episode will challenge the way you think about content!!  AND… it will show you how to finally build an audience that actually converts!  Grab Eric’s new book Create, Don’t Capture (limited edition copies might still be available) → createdontcapture.com https://30days.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you're building a business online, at some point you’ve probably heard: “You need to create content.”


But what does that actually look like? And how do you do it without burning out, dancing on TikTok, or spending 40 hours a week on Reels that nobody sees?


In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Eric Thayne… The creator, filmmaker, and author of Create, Don’t Capture.  He breaks down the exact system he used to go from $100K in debt to rebuilding his business entirely with organic content.


We go deep on Eric’s viral framework (aka The 60-Second Perfect Webinar), how to turn everyday ideas into scroll-stopping videos, and why most people massively overcomplicate their content strategy.


If you’re trying to grow an audience, get more eyeballs on your funnels, or just finally show up online consistently… You’re gonna love this episode! 

◼️The 60-Second Perfect Webinar: Eric’s viral video framework

◼️Why creating content is more important than running ads

◼️The fastest way to come up with endless content ideas (even if you feel like you have nothing to say)

◼️Why documenting your journey beats waiting for perfection

◼️How to test hooks and content for free (before ever spending money on ads)

◼️The 3 types of content every creator should be posting (and how to balance them)


Whether you're just getting started or you're already spending big on ads, this episode will challenge the way you think about content!!  AND… it will show you how to finally build an audience that actually converts! 

Grab Eric’s new book Create, Don’t Capture (limited edition copies might still be available) → createdontcapture.com

https://30days.com


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast


Special thanks to our sponsors:

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3519 The Queen of Viral Content: Adley Kinsman Breaks It All Down | #Marketing - Ep. 25 This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is for all the social media marketing folks out there. Or, pretty much anyone that wants to dial in their social media content and marketing with next level strategies that are working RIGHT NOW in today’s environment!  There’s a good chance you’ve seen my guest on this episode, but I had the chance to sit down with Adley Kinsman… AKA the queen of viral content!  Her videos rack up billions (yep, with a B) of views every single month.  We talk about how she went from bankrupt musician to one of the most influential creators on the planet... and how she did it without spending a dime on ads. We dive deep into the exact storytelling framework Adley uses to hook viewers, keep them watching, and turn casual scrolls into serious attention. She also breaks down how businesses of all sizes (even trash can cleaners and real estate agents) can use her system to dominate organic social, attract followers, and drive real sales. This one is part content strategy, part creative masterclass, and part kick-in-the-pants for anyone who knows they need to show up more consistently online. Key Highlights: ◼️The chicken-in-a-bathtub video that changed everything… and what it taught her about attention ◼️How Adley reverse engineers videos using the “Missy Elliott Method” ◼️The biggest mistake most business owners make with social content ◼️Why “retention” is the only metric that matters… And how to improve it ◼️What Trial Reels are, and how they could change your entire content game ◼️The step-by-step process Adley uses to write, script, and film multiple viral videos a week How cultural relevance will beat contextual relevance every time (this is HUGE for your brand) If you’ve ever wanted to build a bigger audience, drive more organic traffic, or finally show up with confidence on camera, this episode is your roadmap. https://30days.com https://www.instagram.com/adley ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 09 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is for all the social media marketing folks out there. Or, pretty much anyone that wants to dial in their social media content and marketing with next level strategies that are working RIGHT NOW in today’s environment!  There’s a good chance you’ve seen my guest on this episode, but I had the chance to sit down with Adley Kinsman… AKA the queen of viral content!  Her videos rack up billions (yep, with a B) of views every single month.  We talk about how she went from bankrupt musician to one of the most influential creators on the planet... and how she did it without spending a dime on ads. We dive deep into the exact storytelling framework Adley uses to hook viewers, keep them watching, and turn casual scrolls into serious attention. She also breaks down how businesses of all sizes (even trash can cleaners and real estate agents) can use her system to dominate organic social, attract followers, and drive real sales. This one is part content strategy, part creative masterclass, and part kick-in-the-pants for anyone who knows they need to show up more consistently online. Key Highlights: ◼️The chicken-in-a-bathtub video that changed everything… and what it taught her about attention ◼️How Adley reverse engineers videos using the “Missy Elliott Method” ◼️The biggest mistake most business owners make with social content ◼️Why “retention” is the only metric that matters… And how to improve it ◼️What Trial Reels are, and how they could change your entire content game ◼️The step-by-step process Adley uses to write, script, and film multiple viral videos a week How cultural relevance will beat contextual relevance every time (this is HUGE for your brand) If you’ve ever wanted to build a bigger audience, drive more organic traffic, or finally show up with confidence on camera, this episode is your roadmap. https://30days.com https://www.instagram.com/adley ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is for all the social media marketing folks out there. Or, pretty much anyone that wants to dial in their social media content and marketing with next level strategies that are working RIGHT NOW in today’s environment! 


There’s a good chance you’ve seen my guest on this episode, but I had the chance to sit down with Adley Kinsman… AKA the queen of viral content!  Her videos rack up billions (yep, with a B) of views every single month. 


We talk about how she went from bankrupt musician to one of the most influential creators on the planet... and how she did it without spending a dime on ads.


We dive deep into the exact storytelling framework Adley uses to hook viewers, keep them watching, and turn casual scrolls into serious attention. She also breaks down how businesses of all sizes (even trash can cleaners and real estate agents) can use her system to dominate organic social, attract followers, and drive real sales.


This one is part content strategy, part creative masterclass, and part kick-in-the-pants for anyone who knows they need to show up more consistently online.


Key Highlights:

◼️The chicken-in-a-bathtub video that changed everything… and what it taught her about attention

◼️How Adley reverse engineers videos using the “Missy Elliott Method”

◼️The biggest mistake most business owners make with social content

◼️Why “retention” is the only metric that matters… And how to improve it

◼️What Trial Reels are, and how they could change your entire content game

◼️The step-by-step process Adley uses to write, script, and film multiple viral videos a week

  • How cultural relevance will beat contextual relevance every time (this is HUGE for your brand)


If you’ve ever wanted to build a bigger audience, drive more organic traffic, or finally show up with confidence on camera, this episode is your roadmap.

https://30days.com

https://www.instagram.com/adley


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠


Special thanks to our sponsors:

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]]> 2788 Inside the Copywriting Brain That Powers My Funnels | #Marketing - Ep. 24 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my head copywriter Heath… Who’s been quietly writing behind the curtain for the past five years.  And let me tell you… it was a blast to talk copy, creativity, and what actually makes great marketing work with one of the most talented people on my team!  We go deep on advertorials (what they are, why they work, and how they’re still crushing it today), plus Heath shares how improv, fiction writing, and a background in comedy helped him become one of the best direct response copywriters I’ve ever met. We also talk about nerding out on old ad copy, why I collect hundred-year-old Napoleon Hill manuscripts, and how lived experience always beats AI when it comes to great copy that connects. This one’s part masterclass, part origin story, and part love letter to the lost art of persuasion. And… 100% fun!  Key Highlights: ◼️The surprising way I accidentally hired Heath (and why his 40-minute “No thanks” video sealed the deal) ◼️What an “advertorial” actually is - and why it works better than you think ◼️Why copywriting is really just “copy collecting” ◼️The lost power of voice, tone, and writing from lived experience ◼️How AI can help, but will never replace the hook you found at the gym yesterday ◼️Our step-by-step process for building the Zuma Juice funnel from scratch ◼️Why copywriting is the most valuable skill most entrepreneurs never master If you’re a copywriter, a funnel builder, or just someone trying to sell better… This episode is a can’t miss for you! https://30days.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my head copywriter Heath… Who’s been quietly writing behind the curtain for the past five years.  And let me tell you… it was a blast to talk copy, creativity, and what actually makes great marketing work with one of the most talented people on my team!  We go deep on advertorials (what they are, why they work, and how they’re still crushing it today), plus Heath shares how improv, fiction writing, and a background in comedy helped him become one of the best direct response copywriters I’ve ever met. We also talk about nerding out on old ad copy, why I collect hundred-year-old Napoleon Hill manuscripts, and how lived experience always beats AI when it comes to great copy that connects. This one’s part masterclass, part origin story, and part love letter to the lost art of persuasion. And… 100% fun!  Key Highlights: ◼️The surprising way I accidentally hired Heath (and why his 40-minute “No thanks” video sealed the deal) ◼️What an “advertorial” actually is - and why it works better than you think ◼️Why copywriting is really just “copy collecting” ◼️The lost power of voice, tone, and writing from lived experience ◼️How AI can help, but will never replace the hook you found at the gym yesterday ◼️Our step-by-step process for building the Zuma Juice funnel from scratch ◼️Why copywriting is the most valuable skill most entrepreneurs never master If you’re a copywriter, a funnel builder, or just someone trying to sell better… This episode is a can’t miss for you! https://30days.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with my head copywriter Heath… Who’s been quietly writing behind the curtain for the past five years.  And let me tell you… it was a blast to talk copy, creativity, and what actually makes great marketing work with one of the most talented people on my team! 


We go deep on advertorials (what they are, why they work, and how they’re still crushing it today), plus Heath shares how improv, fiction writing, and a background in comedy helped him become one of the best direct response copywriters I’ve ever met.


We also talk about nerding out on old ad copy, why I collect hundred-year-old Napoleon Hill manuscripts, and how lived experience always beats AI when it comes to great copy that connects. This one’s part masterclass, part origin story, and part love letter to the lost art of persuasion. And… 100% fun! 


Key Highlights:

◼️The surprising way I accidentally hired Heath (and why his 40-minute “No thanks” video sealed the deal)

◼️What an “advertorial” actually is - and why it works better than you think

◼️Why copywriting is really just “copy collecting”

◼️The lost power of voice, tone, and writing from lived experience

◼️How AI can help, but will never replace the hook you found at the gym yesterday

◼️Our step-by-step process for building the Zuma Juice funnel from scratch

◼️Why copywriting is the most valuable skill most entrepreneurs never master


If you’re a copywriter, a funnel builder, or just someone trying to sell better… This episode is a can’t miss for you!

https://30days.com


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠


Special thanks to our sponsors:

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2632 The Most Dangerous Thing You Can Do Is Play It Safe | #Success - Ep. 23 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share the wild story behind why I’m currently rocking a sling…and what ripping both of my biceps taught me about risk, purpose, and why playing it safe is a trap! You’ll also hear how an unpublished Napoleon Hill course from 1917 inspired me to level up not just as a marketer, but as a person. I break down 15 qualities Hill believed made someone unfireable, and they’re just as powerful today as they were 100 years ago. The good stuff never goes out of style or becomes irrelevant! We also talk about wrestling tournaments (You know… old dudes with replaced hips still chasing greatness), the true role of an advertiser, and why “a ship in a harbor is safe… but that’s not what ships are built for”! This one’s a personal one. It's part motivation, part business masterclass, and part time capsule from one of the greatest thinkers of all time. Key Highlights: ◼️The bicep story: Why I wrestled through torn arms—and don’t regret it ◼️Two types of “What ifs”—and which one will change your life ◼️The 15 qualities that made Napoleon Hill say: “I’ll hire you on the spot” ◼️Why personal development is the secret to great advertising (Hill + Collier knew this) ◼️The Peterson Academy model, and why it fired me up about education ◼️A ship in the harbor is safe… but that’s not what ships are built for This episode will hit home if you’ve ever felt stuck, soft, or like you’ve been playing too small. Let this be the push to get back in the arena!  Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode: Join the Secrets of Success waitlist 👉 secretsofsuccess.com Watch the Napoleon Hill training inside the app (coming soon) Learn more about Peterson Academy 👉 petersonacademy.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 02 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share the wild story behind why I’m currently rocking a sling…and what ripping both of my biceps taught me about risk, purpose, and why playing it safe is a trap! You’ll also hear how an unpublished Napoleon Hill course from 1917 inspired me to level up not just as a marketer, but as a person. I break down 15 qualities Hill believed made someone unfireable, and they’re just as powerful today as they were 100 years ago. The good stuff never goes out of style or becomes irrelevant! We also talk about wrestling tournaments (You know… old dudes with replaced hips still chasing greatness), the true role of an advertiser, and why “a ship in a harbor is safe… but that’s not what ships are built for”! This one’s a personal one. It's part motivation, part business masterclass, and part time capsule from one of the greatest thinkers of all time. Key Highlights: ◼️The bicep story: Why I wrestled through torn arms—and don’t regret it ◼️Two types of “What ifs”—and which one will change your life ◼️The 15 qualities that made Napoleon Hill say: “I’ll hire you on the spot” ◼️Why personal development is the secret to great advertising (Hill + Collier knew this) ◼️The Peterson Academy model, and why it fired me up about education ◼️A ship in the harbor is safe… but that’s not what ships are built for This episode will hit home if you’ve ever felt stuck, soft, or like you’ve been playing too small. Let this be the push to get back in the arena!  Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode: Join the Secrets of Success waitlist 👉 secretsofsuccess.com Watch the Napoleon Hill training inside the app (coming soon) Learn more about Peterson Academy 👉 petersonacademy.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I share the wild story behind why I’m currently rocking a sling…and what ripping both of my biceps taught me about risk, purpose, and why playing it safe is a trap!


You’ll also hear how an unpublished Napoleon Hill course from 1917 inspired me to level up not just as a marketer, but as a person. I break down 15 qualities Hill believed made someone unfireable, and they’re just as powerful today as they were 100 years ago.


The good stuff never goes out of style or becomes irrelevant!


We also talk about wrestling tournaments (You know… old dudes with replaced hips still chasing greatness), the true role of an advertiser, and why “a ship in a harbor is safe… but that’s not what ships are built for”!


This one’s a personal one. It's part motivation, part business masterclass, and part time capsule from one of the greatest thinkers of all time.


Key Highlights:

◼️The bicep story: Why I wrestled through torn arms—and don’t regret it

◼️Two types of “What ifs”—and which one will change your life

◼️The 15 qualities that made Napoleon Hill say: “I’ll hire you on the spot”

◼️Why personal development is the secret to great advertising (Hill + Collier knew this)

◼️The Peterson Academy model, and why it fired me up about education

◼️A ship in the harbor is safe… but that’s not what ships are built for


This episode will hit home if you’ve ever felt stuck, soft, or like you’ve been playing too small. Let this be the push to get back in the arena! 


Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode:


Join the Secrets of Success waitlist 👉 secretsofsuccess.com

Watch the Napoleon Hill training inside the app (coming soon)

Learn more about Peterson Academy 👉 petersonacademy.com


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠


Special thanks to our sponsors:

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2410 One Funnel to Rule Them All: The Strategy Revealed | #Marketing - Ep. 22 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down one of the most important lessons I’ve ever learned in marketing and business: Every company has one funnel that rules them all!  …and the faster you identify and optimize yours, the faster you grow! I share the same framework I taught at Funnel Hacking Live this year, walking through the difference between acquisition funnels (how you acquire customers) and monetization funnels (how you make money from them after). Most people launch 10 funnels hoping one works… but the real secret is knowing which one deserves 90% of your attention, budget, and traffic. We also dive deep into the numbers from my own businesses… Including ClickFunnels, Prime Mover, Dan Kennedy’s legacy brands, and more.  And I reveal how each one has a different “one funnel to rule them all” depending on the market and business model. If you’ve ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or spread too thin trying to launch too many offers, this episode will snap everything into focus. Key Highlights: ◼️Why “One Funnel to Rule Them All” isn’t just a slogan, it’s survival!!! ◼️The difference between acquisition and monetization funnels (and why you need both) ◼️How much time you should be spending on social media vs. paid ads ◼️The actual CPA and conversion numbers from our Selling Online funnel ◼️What Agora does better than almost anyone in the world, and how to model it ◼️How to give yourself a raise every single day This is one of those episodes that separates marketers from business owners. Rewind it. Take notes. And go build the funnel that actually grows your company! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down one of the most important lessons I’ve ever learned in marketing and business: Every company has one funnel that rules them all!  …and the faster you identify and optimize yours, the faster you grow! I share the same framework I taught at Funnel Hacking Live this year, walking through the difference between acquisition funnels (how you acquire customers) and monetization funnels (how you make money from them after). Most people launch 10 funnels hoping one works… but the real secret is knowing which one deserves 90% of your attention, budget, and traffic. We also dive deep into the numbers from my own businesses… Including ClickFunnels, Prime Mover, Dan Kennedy’s legacy brands, and more.  And I reveal how each one has a different “one funnel to rule them all” depending on the market and business model. If you’ve ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or spread too thin trying to launch too many offers, this episode will snap everything into focus. Key Highlights: ◼️Why “One Funnel to Rule Them All” isn’t just a slogan, it’s survival!!! ◼️The difference between acquisition and monetization funnels (and why you need both) ◼️How much time you should be spending on social media vs. paid ads ◼️The actual CPA and conversion numbers from our Selling Online funnel ◼️What Agora does better than almost anyone in the world, and how to model it ◼️How to give yourself a raise every single day This is one of those episodes that separates marketers from business owners. Rewind it. Take notes. And go build the funnel that actually grows your company! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down one of the most important lessons I’ve ever learned in marketing and business: Every company has one funnel that rules them all!  …and the faster you identify and optimize yours, the faster you grow!


I share the same framework I taught at Funnel Hacking Live this year, walking through the difference between acquisition funnels (how you acquire customers) and monetization funnels (how you make money from them after). Most people launch 10 funnels hoping one works… but the real secret is knowing which one deserves 90% of your attention, budget, and traffic.


We also dive deep into the numbers from my own businesses… Including ClickFunnels, Prime Mover, Dan Kennedy’s legacy brands, and more.  And I reveal how each one has a different “one funnel to rule them all” depending on the market and business model.


If you’ve ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or spread too thin trying to launch too many offers, this episode will snap everything into focus.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why “One Funnel to Rule Them All” isn’t just a slogan, it’s survival!!!

◼️The difference between acquisition and monetization funnels (and why you need both)

◼️How much time you should be spending on social media vs. paid ads

◼️The actual CPA and conversion numbers from our Selling Online funnel

◼️What Agora does better than almost anyone in the world, and how to model it

◼️How to give yourself a raise every single day


This is one of those episodes that separates marketers from business owners. Rewind it. Take notes. And go build the funnel that actually grows your company!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠


Special thanks to our sponsors:

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 1630 What Wrestling Taught Me About Pain, Purpose & Pushing Through | #Success - Ep. 21 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you behind the scenes of my annual return to the wrestling mat… A ritual that’s become one of the most important parts of my life! You’ll hear the entire journey leading up to this year’s tournament: the late-night practices, the 25-pound weight cut, the broken sauna, the two dislocated arms, and yes… the back-to-back bicep tears (both arms!). It’s crazy. It’s painful. And I’d do it all over again. Because this isn’t just about wrestling, it’s about doing the thing that makes you feel alive. Whether that’s building funnels, writing books, or chasing down a long-lost passion from your youth… This episode is a reminder to stop waiting, stop playing it safe, and start living. Key Highlights: ◼️Why I wrestle every year (and how it impacts every part of my life) ◼️The brutal (and hilarious) reality of cutting 25 pounds in 5 days ◼️What two torn biceps taught me about pain, purpose, and joy ◼️How I used mindset to show up in Hawaii as a better husband and dad — even while suffering in silence ◼️Why the risk of getting hurt shouldn’t stop you from doing the thing you love This one’s not about marketing. It’s about meaning! If you’ve ever felt stuck, bored, or burned out, this episode might just be the wake-up call you didn’t know you needed. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you behind the scenes of my annual return to the wrestling mat… A ritual that’s become one of the most important parts of my life! You’ll hear the entire journey leading up to this year’s tournament: the late-night practices, the 25-pound weight cut, the broken sauna, the two dislocated arms, and yes… the back-to-back bicep tears (both arms!). It’s crazy. It’s painful. And I’d do it all over again. Because this isn’t just about wrestling, it’s about doing the thing that makes you feel alive. Whether that’s building funnels, writing books, or chasing down a long-lost passion from your youth… This episode is a reminder to stop waiting, stop playing it safe, and start living. Key Highlights: ◼️Why I wrestle every year (and how it impacts every part of my life) ◼️The brutal (and hilarious) reality of cutting 25 pounds in 5 days ◼️What two torn biceps taught me about pain, purpose, and joy ◼️How I used mindset to show up in Hawaii as a better husband and dad — even while suffering in silence ◼️Why the risk of getting hurt shouldn’t stop you from doing the thing you love This one’s not about marketing. It’s about meaning! If you’ve ever felt stuck, bored, or burned out, this episode might just be the wake-up call you didn’t know you needed. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I take you behind the scenes of my annual return to the wrestling mat… A ritual that’s become one of the most important parts of my life!


You’ll hear the entire journey leading up to this year’s tournament: the late-night practices, the 25-pound weight cut, the broken sauna, the two dislocated arms, and yes… the back-to-back bicep tears (both arms!). It’s crazy. It’s painful. And I’d do it all over again.


Because this isn’t just about wrestling, it’s about doing the thing that makes you feel alive. Whether that’s building funnels, writing books, or chasing down a long-lost passion from your youth… This episode is a reminder to stop waiting, stop playing it safe, and start living.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why I wrestle every year (and how it impacts every part of my life)

◼️The brutal (and hilarious) reality of cutting 25 pounds in 5 days

◼️What two torn biceps taught me about pain, purpose, and joy

◼️How I used mindset to show up in Hawaii as a better husband and dad — even while suffering in silence

◼️Why the risk of getting hurt shouldn’t stop you from doing the thing you love


This one’s not about marketing. It’s about meaning! If you’ve ever felt stuck, bored, or burned out, this episode might just be the wake-up call you didn’t know you needed.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 1746 Relationship Tools Every Entrepreneur Needs but Nobody Teaches | #Success - Ep. 20 This episode of The Russell Brunson Show might be the most important conversation you didn’t know you needed. In this episode, I sit down with Stacey and Paul Martino - founders of Relationship Development® - to dive deep into a skill set that has radically improved my marriage, my relationship with my kids, and even how I lead my team at work! Stacey and Paul share the personal story behind their breakthrough framework that helped save their own marriage, and has since helped thousands of others do the same. You’ll learn why traditional couples therapy fails, how demand relationship is quietly destroying connections, and what you can do instead (even if your spouse isn’t on board)! Marketing and sales strategies are cool… But none of it matters if your life at home and your relationship with others is a mess. That’s why this episode is absolutely critical for so many entrepreneurs out there! Key Highlights:  ◼️The difference between personal development and relationship development ◼️Why it only takes ONE person to change any relationship ◼️The “right hand / left hand” framework for relating to friends, family, and team members ◼️Masculine vs. feminine approaches to help, support, and progress This episode isn’t just about relationships, it’s about leadership, influence, and showing up with more power and compassion in every part of your life. Whether you’re building a business or a family (or both), this one’s a must-listen! And… You can grab their new book and get exclusive bonuses at MissingPieceBook.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media This episode of The Russell Brunson Show might be the most important conversation you didn’t know you needed. In this episode, I sit down with Stacey and Paul Martino - founders of Relationship Development® - to dive deep into a skill set that has radically improved my marriage, my relationship with my kids, and even how I lead my team at work! Stacey and Paul share the personal story behind their breakthrough framework that helped save their own marriage, and has since helped thousands of others do the same. You’ll learn why traditional couples therapy fails, how demand relationship is quietly destroying connections, and what you can do instead (even if your spouse isn’t on board)! Marketing and sales strategies are cool… But none of it matters if your life at home and your relationship with others is a mess. That’s why this episode is absolutely critical for so many entrepreneurs out there! Key Highlights:  ◼️The difference between personal development and relationship development ◼️Why it only takes ONE person to change any relationship ◼️The “right hand / left hand” framework for relating to friends, family, and team members ◼️Masculine vs. feminine approaches to help, support, and progress This episode isn’t just about relationships, it’s about leadership, influence, and showing up with more power and compassion in every part of your life. Whether you’re building a business or a family (or both), this one’s a must-listen! And… You can grab their new book and get exclusive bonuses at MissingPieceBook.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode of The Russell Brunson Show might be the most important conversation you didn’t know you needed. In this episode, I sit down with Stacey and Paul Martino - founders of Relationship Development® - to dive deep into a skill set that has radically improved my marriage, my relationship with my kids, and even how I lead my team at work!


Stacey and Paul share the personal story behind their breakthrough framework that helped save their own marriage, and has since helped thousands of others do the same. You’ll learn why traditional couples therapy fails, how demand relationship is quietly destroying connections, and what you can do instead (even if your spouse isn’t on board)!


Marketing and sales strategies are cool… But none of it matters if your life at home and your relationship with others is a mess. That’s why this episode is absolutely critical for so many entrepreneurs out there!


Key Highlights: 

◼️The difference between personal development and relationship development

◼️Why it only takes ONE person to change any relationship

◼️The “right hand / left hand” framework for relating to friends, family, and team members

◼️Masculine vs. feminine approaches to help, support, and progress


This episode isn’t just about relationships, it’s about leadership, influence, and showing up with more power and compassion in every part of your life. Whether you’re building a business or a family (or both), this one’s a must-listen!

And… You can grab their new book and get exclusive bonuses at MissingPieceBook.com


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 4078 The Power of Pricing, Pamphlets & Polarization with Taylor Welch | #Marketing - Ep. 19 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Taylor Welch, the founder of The Wealthy Consultant. Taylor has built and scaled multiple businesses, and in our conversation, we go deep into some of the unconventional strategies that have fueled his success! Taylor shares what he calls the Revolving Pricing Method, a pricing strategy that breaks away from the typical high-ticket model by combining an upfront onboarding fee with ongoing monthly payments - ensuring profitability while increasing client retention. If you've ever struggled with recurring revenue, this concept will change how you structure your offers. We also discuss why traditional book funnels are broken and how Taylor is leveraging pamphlets… I.E. small, hyper-specific digital products that quickly establish authority, create desire, and seamlessly lead to high-value offers. This "lost marketing strategy" dates back to the 1700’s, and Taylor reveals how he’s using it to drive massive engagement and sales. Lastly, we dive into his YouTube strategy, which has exploded in the past year. Taylor explains how incorporating faith, business, and money into a single content ecosystem has helped him create deeper connections, drive engagement, and dominate the algorithm. We also talk about why controversy and polarization are essential for building an audience that’s not just engaged, but obsessed! Key Highlights: ◼️The Revolving Pricing Method: How to make time itself a profit center you ◼️Why most book funnels fail and how pamphlets are creating better conversions ◼️The psychology of pricing: How small tweaks can significantly impact retention ◼️How controversy fuels audience growth (and why avoiding it keeps you invisible) ◼️Taylor’s YouTube strategy: How he went from slow growth to 30K+ new subscribers per month This episode is packed with game-changing insights you won’t want to miss. Listen now and take notes! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode: Get Taylor’s Revolving Pricing Method pamphlet 👉 wealthyconsultant.com/russell Subscribe to Taylor’s YouTube channel 👉 youtube.com/TaylorAWelch https://sellingonline.com/podcast https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Taylor Welch, the founder of The Wealthy Consultant. Taylor has built and scaled multiple businesses, and in our conversation, we go deep into some of the unconventional strategies that have fueled his success! Taylor shares what he calls the Revolving Pricing Method, a pricing strategy that breaks away from the typical high-ticket model by combining an upfront onboarding fee with ongoing monthly payments - ensuring profitability while increasing client retention. If you've ever struggled with recurring revenue, this concept will change how you structure your offers. We also discuss why traditional book funnels are broken and how Taylor is leveraging pamphlets… I.E. small, hyper-specific digital products that quickly establish authority, create desire, and seamlessly lead to high-value offers. This "lost marketing strategy" dates back to the 1700’s, and Taylor reveals how he’s using it to drive massive engagement and sales. Lastly, we dive into his YouTube strategy, which has exploded in the past year. Taylor explains how incorporating faith, business, and money into a single content ecosystem has helped him create deeper connections, drive engagement, and dominate the algorithm. We also talk about why controversy and polarization are essential for building an audience that’s not just engaged, but obsessed! Key Highlights: ◼️The Revolving Pricing Method: How to make time itself a profit center you ◼️Why most book funnels fail and how pamphlets are creating better conversions ◼️The psychology of pricing: How small tweaks can significantly impact retention ◼️How controversy fuels audience growth (and why avoiding it keeps you invisible) ◼️Taylor’s YouTube strategy: How he went from slow growth to 30K+ new subscribers per month This episode is packed with game-changing insights you won’t want to miss. Listen now and take notes! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode: Get Taylor’s Revolving Pricing Method pamphlet 👉 wealthyconsultant.com/russell Subscribe to Taylor’s YouTube channel 👉 youtube.com/TaylorAWelch https://sellingonline.com/podcast https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Taylor Welch, the founder of The Wealthy Consultant. Taylor has built and scaled multiple businesses, and in our conversation, we go deep into some of the unconventional strategies that have fueled his success!


Taylor shares what he calls the Revolving Pricing Method, a pricing strategy that breaks away from the typical high-ticket model by combining an upfront onboarding fee with ongoing monthly payments - ensuring profitability while increasing client retention. If you've ever struggled with recurring revenue, this concept will change how you structure your offers.


We also discuss why traditional book funnels are broken and how Taylor is leveraging pamphlets… I.E. small, hyper-specific digital products that quickly establish authority, create desire, and seamlessly lead to high-value offers. This "lost marketing strategy" dates back to the 1700’s, and Taylor reveals how he’s using it to drive massive engagement and sales.


Lastly, we dive into his YouTube strategy, which has exploded in the past year. Taylor explains how incorporating faith, business, and money into a single content ecosystem has helped him create deeper connections, drive engagement, and dominate the algorithm. We also talk about why controversy and polarization are essential for building an audience that’s not just engaged, but obsessed!


Key Highlights:

◼️The Revolving Pricing Method: How to make time itself a profit center you

◼️Why most book funnels fail and how pamphlets are creating better conversions

◼️The psychology of pricing: How small tweaks can significantly impact retention

◼️How controversy fuels audience growth (and why avoiding it keeps you invisible)

◼️Taylor’s YouTube strategy: How he went from slow growth to 30K+ new subscribers per month


This episode is packed with game-changing insights you won’t want to miss. Listen now and take notes!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode:


https://sellingonline.com/podcast

https://clickfunnels.com/podcast


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]]> 3161 Make Your Business Impossible to Ignore: Day with Dan Kennedy (4 of 4) | #Marketing - Ep. 18 In today’s episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we wrap up the final installment of Day with Dan, where Dan Kennedy and I dive deep into the sales and marketing formula behind market disruption, radical positioning, and how to attract massive attention (whether positive or negative) to dominate your industry. If you’ve ever asked yourself how industry titans like Steve Jobs, David Ogilvy, and Joe Rogan built unstoppable brands, this episode uncovers the repeatable blueprint behind their success. The reality? Becoming a true authority isn’t about playing it safe, it’s about challenging the status quo, embracing controversy, and strategically leveraging both support and opposition to your advantage. Key Highlights: ◼️Why all market leaders follow a formula - and how you can apply it ◼️The critical role of books, media, and controversy in building industry authority ◼️How opposition drives traffic and makes you impossible to ignore ◼️The real reason most entrepreneurs fail to break through, and how to avoid their mistakes ◼️Why staying “neutral” is the fastest path to irrelevance ◼️How to strategically use media, podcast guests, and partnerships to amplify your brand The biggest mistake entrepreneurs make? Trying to avoid criticism. The truth? Every industry leader, from Tony Robbins to Donald Trump, used controversy as fuel to grow. If you want to step into your man on the white horse position and become the recognized authority in your market, this episode is a masterclass in how it’s actually done. Don’t miss the conclusion of Day with Dan! https://www.nobsletter.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In today’s episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we wrap up the final installment of Day with Dan, where Dan Kennedy and I dive deep into the sales and marketing formula behind market disruption, radical positioning, and how to attract massive attention (whether positive or negative) to dominate your industry. If you’ve ever asked yourself how industry titans like Steve Jobs, David Ogilvy, and Joe Rogan built unstoppable brands, this episode uncovers the repeatable blueprint behind their success. The reality? Becoming a true authority isn’t about playing it safe, it’s about challenging the status quo, embracing controversy, and strategically leveraging both support and opposition to your advantage. Key Highlights: ◼️Why all market leaders follow a formula - and how you can apply it ◼️The critical role of books, media, and controversy in building industry authority ◼️How opposition drives traffic and makes you impossible to ignore ◼️The real reason most entrepreneurs fail to break through, and how to avoid their mistakes ◼️Why staying “neutral” is the fastest path to irrelevance ◼️How to strategically use media, podcast guests, and partnerships to amplify your brand The biggest mistake entrepreneurs make? Trying to avoid criticism. The truth? Every industry leader, from Tony Robbins to Donald Trump, used controversy as fuel to grow. If you want to step into your man on the white horse position and become the recognized authority in your market, this episode is a masterclass in how it’s actually done. Don’t miss the conclusion of Day with Dan! https://www.nobsletter.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In today’s episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we wrap up the final installment of Day with Dan, where Dan Kennedy and I dive deep into the sales and marketing formula behind market disruption, radical positioning, and how to attract massive attention (whether positive or negative) to dominate your industry.


If you’ve ever asked yourself how industry titans like Steve Jobs, David Ogilvy, and Joe Rogan built unstoppable brands, this episode uncovers the repeatable blueprint behind their success. The reality? Becoming a true authority isn’t about playing it safe, it’s about challenging the status quo, embracing controversy, and strategically leveraging both support and opposition to your advantage.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why all market leaders follow a formula - and how you can apply it

◼️The critical role of books, media, and controversy in building industry authority

◼️How opposition drives traffic and makes you impossible to ignore

◼️The real reason most entrepreneurs fail to break through, and how to avoid their mistakes

◼️Why staying “neutral” is the fastest path to irrelevance

◼️How to strategically use media, podcast guests, and partnerships to amplify your brand


The biggest mistake entrepreneurs make? Trying to avoid criticism. The truth? Every industry leader, from Tony Robbins to Donald Trump, used controversy as fuel to grow. If you want to step into your man on the white horse position and become the recognized authority in your market, this episode is a masterclass in how it’s actually done. Don’t miss the conclusion of Day with Dan!

https://www.nobsletter.com


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast


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]]> 2526 The Secret to Theatrical Marketing: Day with Dan Kennedy (3 of 4) | #Marketing - Ep. 17 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re diving deeper into how to break into a market, dominate an industry, and attract massive attention - even if it means creating controversy along the way. This is part three of my Day with Dan interview from Funnel Hacking Live 10, and today, we’re talking about the power of positioning, theatrical marketing, and leveraging opposition to your advantage. If you’ve ever wondered why some brands skyrocket while others stay stuck, this episode reveals the hidden playbook behind disruptive marketing. The truth? The biggest names in business didn’t just fit in… They made themselves impossible to ignore!. Key Highlights: ◼️Why every successful disruptor needs a big villain - and how to position yourself against it ◼️The power of stunts and theatrical marketing (and why playing it safe is the fastest way to be forgotten) ◼️How controversy fuels attention, authority, and customer loyalty ◼️Why industry opposition can be your greatest asset (if you know how to use it) ◼️The psychology behind “restless natives” - the hidden market waiting for someone to challenge the status quo Most entrepreneurs focus on gaining approval, but the real winners embrace resistance. The biggest opportunities don’t come from playing by the rules - they come from rewriting them!! If you’re looking to build an unshakable brand, create movements instead of just marketing, and use opposition as a growth strategy, this is the episode you need to hear! https://www.nobsletter.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re diving deeper into how to break into a market, dominate an industry, and attract massive attention - even if it means creating controversy along the way. This is part three of my Day with Dan interview from Funnel Hacking Live 10, and today, we’re talking about the power of positioning, theatrical marketing, and leveraging opposition to your advantage. If you’ve ever wondered why some brands skyrocket while others stay stuck, this episode reveals the hidden playbook behind disruptive marketing. The truth? The biggest names in business didn’t just fit in… They made themselves impossible to ignore!. Key Highlights: ◼️Why every successful disruptor needs a big villain - and how to position yourself against it ◼️The power of stunts and theatrical marketing (and why playing it safe is the fastest way to be forgotten) ◼️How controversy fuels attention, authority, and customer loyalty ◼️Why industry opposition can be your greatest asset (if you know how to use it) ◼️The psychology behind “restless natives” - the hidden market waiting for someone to challenge the status quo Most entrepreneurs focus on gaining approval, but the real winners embrace resistance. The biggest opportunities don’t come from playing by the rules - they come from rewriting them!! If you’re looking to build an unshakable brand, create movements instead of just marketing, and use opposition as a growth strategy, this is the episode you need to hear! https://www.nobsletter.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re diving deeper into how to break into a market, dominate an industry, and attract massive attention - even if it means creating controversy along the way. This is part three of my Day with Dan interview from Funnel Hacking Live 10, and today, we’re talking about the power of positioning, theatrical marketing, and leveraging opposition to your advantage.


If you’ve ever wondered why some brands skyrocket while others stay stuck, this episode reveals the hidden playbook behind disruptive marketing. The truth? The biggest names in business didn’t just fit in… They made themselves impossible to ignore!.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why every successful disruptor needs a big villain - and how to position yourself against it

◼️The power of stunts and theatrical marketing (and why playing it safe is the fastest way to be forgotten)

◼️How controversy fuels attention, authority, and customer loyalty

◼️Why industry opposition can be your greatest asset (if you know how to use it)

◼️The psychology behind “restless natives” - the hidden market waiting for someone to challenge the status quo


Most entrepreneurs focus on gaining approval, but the real winners embrace resistance. The biggest opportunities don’t come from playing by the rules - they come from rewriting them!!


If you’re looking to build an unshakable brand, create movements instead of just marketing, and use opposition as a growth strategy, this is the episode you need to hear!

https://www.nobsletter.com


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠


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]]> 2283 Break the Rules, Win the Market: Day with Dan Kennedy (2 of 4) | #Marketing - Ep. 16 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re continuing the Day with Dan series from Funnel Hacking Live 10 in Las Vegas. If you’ve ever wondered how to truly disrupt your market, attract the right customers, and position yourself as the go-to authority, this episode is for you. Dan and I dive into the three core marketing and sales strategies that separate industry leaders from everyone else. Most entrepreneurs follow outdated rules without realizing they were designed to keep them stuck. But when you challenge the status quo, you gain the power to rewrite the game in your favor. It’s a crazy secret that so many entrepreneurs miss, and you have to learn it! Key Highlights: ◼️The Radical Big Idea - why every market leader has a bold message that cuts through the noise ◼️The Heretic Position - how challenging the industry “experts” instantly attracts loyal customers ◼️The Man on the White Horse - why disrupting the market isn’t enough, you need to provide the right alternative ◼️Why most sales managers and industry insiders give bad advice, and how to use that to your advantage ◼️The secret to handling criticism, backlash, and negativity when you start shaking things up ◼️How to turn frustrated, dissatisfied customers into raving fans who buy from you over and over Success in marketing, sales, and business isn’t about following the rules, it’s about rewriting them. If you’re ready to take control, flip the script, and build a business that actually works, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss. https://www.nobsletter.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re continuing the Day with Dan series from Funnel Hacking Live 10 in Las Vegas. If you’ve ever wondered how to truly disrupt your market, attract the right customers, and position yourself as the go-to authority, this episode is for you. Dan and I dive into the three core marketing and sales strategies that separate industry leaders from everyone else. Most entrepreneurs follow outdated rules without realizing they were designed to keep them stuck. But when you challenge the status quo, you gain the power to rewrite the game in your favor. It’s a crazy secret that so many entrepreneurs miss, and you have to learn it! Key Highlights: ◼️The Radical Big Idea - why every market leader has a bold message that cuts through the noise ◼️The Heretic Position - how challenging the industry “experts” instantly attracts loyal customers ◼️The Man on the White Horse - why disrupting the market isn’t enough, you need to provide the right alternative ◼️Why most sales managers and industry insiders give bad advice, and how to use that to your advantage ◼️The secret to handling criticism, backlash, and negativity when you start shaking things up ◼️How to turn frustrated, dissatisfied customers into raving fans who buy from you over and over Success in marketing, sales, and business isn’t about following the rules, it’s about rewriting them. If you’re ready to take control, flip the script, and build a business that actually works, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss. https://www.nobsletter.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re continuing the Day with Dan series from Funnel Hacking Live 10 in Las Vegas. If you’ve ever wondered how to truly disrupt your market, attract the right customers, and position yourself as the go-to authority, this episode is for you.


Dan and I dive into the three core marketing and sales strategies that separate industry leaders from everyone else. Most entrepreneurs follow outdated rules without realizing they were designed to keep them stuck. But when you challenge the status quo, you gain the power to rewrite the game in your favor. It’s a crazy secret that so many entrepreneurs miss, and you have to learn it!


Key Highlights:

◼️The Radical Big Idea - why every market leader has a bold message that cuts through the noise

◼️The Heretic Position - how challenging the industry “experts” instantly attracts loyal customers

◼️The Man on the White Horse - why disrupting the market isn’t enough, you need to provide the right alternative

◼️Why most sales managers and industry insiders give bad advice, and how to use that to your advantage

◼️The secret to handling criticism, backlash, and negativity when you start shaking things up

◼️How to turn frustrated, dissatisfied customers into raving fans who buy from you over and over


Success in marketing, sales, and business isn’t about following the rules, it’s about rewriting them. If you’re ready to take control, flip the script, and build a business that actually works, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss.

https://www.nobsletter.com


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠


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]]> 2557 Waiting for the Radical to Arrive: Day with Dan Kennedy (1 of 4) | #Marketing - Ep. 15 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m bringing you something super special - the first of a four-part series featuring Dan Kennedy from our Day with Dan at Funnel Hacking Live 10 ‘The Last Dance’. If you’ve ever felt like your business is different, that the usual marketing strategies don’t apply to you, or that breaking into a market is harder than it should be, this episode is going to shift your perspective. Dan and I dive into the biggest mistake entrepreneurs make: believing their business is unique when it comes to marketing and sales. The truth? All businesses follow the same core structure… Attracting customers, converting them into buyers, and maximizing revenue.  Those who succeed are the ones who understand this and leverage it to their advantage. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the belief that "my business is different" is killing your success ◼️How every industry has hidden power structures, and why breaking the rules is the key to market disruption ◼️The fundamental marketing principle that applies to every business, no matter the niche ◼️Why most entrepreneurs fail to recognize how Vegas and Disney extract maximum dollars per customer (and how you can apply the same strategies) ◼️The real way to define your business (hint: it’s NOT the product or service you sell) Most people look at the surface of a market, but the real opportunity is underneath - in the unspoken rules, outdated structures, and unsatisfied customers waiting for something better. In this episode, you’re getting some real gold nuggets from Day with Day as he breaks down how to spot those opportunities and position yourself as the disruptor who rewrites the game. You can’t afford to miss this episode… and the next ones coming soon! https://www.nobsletter.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Mar 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m bringing you something super special - the first of a four-part series featuring Dan Kennedy from our Day with Dan at Funnel Hacking Live 10 ‘The Last Dance’. If you’ve ever felt like your business is different, that the usual marketing strategies don’t apply to you, or that breaking into a market is harder than it should be, this episode is going to shift your perspective. Dan and I dive into the biggest mistake entrepreneurs make: believing their business is unique when it comes to marketing and sales. The truth? All businesses follow the same core structure… Attracting customers, converting them into buyers, and maximizing revenue.  Those who succeed are the ones who understand this and leverage it to their advantage. Key Highlights: ◼️Why the belief that "my business is different" is killing your success ◼️How every industry has hidden power structures, and why breaking the rules is the key to market disruption ◼️The fundamental marketing principle that applies to every business, no matter the niche ◼️Why most entrepreneurs fail to recognize how Vegas and Disney extract maximum dollars per customer (and how you can apply the same strategies) ◼️The real way to define your business (hint: it’s NOT the product or service you sell) Most people look at the surface of a market, but the real opportunity is underneath - in the unspoken rules, outdated structures, and unsatisfied customers waiting for something better. In this episode, you’re getting some real gold nuggets from Day with Day as he breaks down how to spot those opportunities and position yourself as the disruptor who rewrites the game. You can’t afford to miss this episode… and the next ones coming soon! https://www.nobsletter.com ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m bringing you something super special - the first of a four-part series featuring Dan Kennedy from our Day with Dan at Funnel Hacking Live 10 ‘The Last Dance’. If you’ve ever felt like your business is different, that the usual marketing strategies don’t apply to you, or that breaking into a market is harder than it should be, this episode is going to shift your perspective.


Dan and I dive into the biggest mistake entrepreneurs make: believing their business is unique when it comes to marketing and sales. The truth? All businesses follow the same core structure… Attracting customers, converting them into buyers, and maximizing revenue. 


Those who succeed are the ones who understand this and leverage it to their advantage.

Key Highlights:

◼️Why the belief that "my business is different" is killing your success

◼️How every industry has hidden power structures, and why breaking the rules is the key to market disruption

◼️The fundamental marketing principle that applies to every business, no matter the niche

◼️Why most entrepreneurs fail to recognize how Vegas and Disney extract maximum dollars per customer (and how you can apply the same strategies)

◼️The real way to define your business (hint: it’s NOT the product or service you sell)


Most people look at the surface of a market, but the real opportunity is underneath - in the unspoken rules, outdated structures, and unsatisfied customers waiting for something better. In this episode, you’re getting some real gold nuggets from Day with Day as he breaks down how to spot those opportunities and position yourself as the disruptor who rewrites the game.


You can’t afford to miss this episode… and the next ones coming soon!

https://www.nobsletter.com


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠


Special thanks to our sponsors:

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2615 Pattern Interrupts: The Master Key That Unlocks All Success | #Success - Ep. 14 Today on The Russell Brunson Show, we’re diving deep into the master key that unlocks success in all areas of life! …Not just business, marketing, and selling. It’s the one concept that separates those who break through from those who stay stuck. If you’ve ever wondered why you keep repeating the same mistakes, struggle to take action, or feel trapped in a cycle, this episode will completely rewire the way you think about success. At the heart of all personal and business growth is one critical element: pattern interrupts. The difference between those who succeed and those who don’t isn’t intelligence, talent, or resources… It’s their ability to recognize, break, and rebuild patterns. It doesn’t matter if it’s business, marketing, relationships, sales, health, or leadership, success is about identifying the subconscious loops that keep you stuck and replacing them with patterns that drive results. Key Highlights: ◼️The hidden force controlling your actions and why most people never break free ◼️How your subconscious mind runs 27,500x faster than your conscious mind (and what that means for success) ◼️The 3-step framework for recognizing and interrupting patterns that hold you back ◼️Why most entrepreneurs struggle with execution - and how to fix it immediately ◼️How to reprogram your responses to failure, fear, and frustration so they fuel growth instead of stopping you ◼️The single biggest mistake people make when trying to change their habits Most people try to work harder when they hit a wall. The truth? Hard work without the right pattern is just reinforcing failure faster. The real key is understanding the space between stimulus and response… That tiny moment where you have the power to choose a different action and reprogram success into your subconscious. This isn’t just another mindset episode!  This is the key that unlocks everything in all aspects of your life. If you’ve ever felt stuck in your business, personal growth, or even your sales conversions, this is the episode you can’t afford to miss. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 Mar 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today on The Russell Brunson Show, we’re diving deep into the master key that unlocks success in all areas of life! …Not just business, marketing, and selling. It’s the one concept that separates those who break through from those who stay stuck. If you’ve ever wondered why you keep repeating the same mistakes, struggle to take action, or feel trapped in a cycle, this episode will completely rewire the way you think about success. At the heart of all personal and business growth is one critical element: pattern interrupts. The difference between those who succeed and those who don’t isn’t intelligence, talent, or resources… It’s their ability to recognize, break, and rebuild patterns. It doesn’t matter if it’s business, marketing, relationships, sales, health, or leadership, success is about identifying the subconscious loops that keep you stuck and replacing them with patterns that drive results. Key Highlights: ◼️The hidden force controlling your actions and why most people never break free ◼️How your subconscious mind runs 27,500x faster than your conscious mind (and what that means for success) ◼️The 3-step framework for recognizing and interrupting patterns that hold you back ◼️Why most entrepreneurs struggle with execution - and how to fix it immediately ◼️How to reprogram your responses to failure, fear, and frustration so they fuel growth instead of stopping you ◼️The single biggest mistake people make when trying to change their habits Most people try to work harder when they hit a wall. The truth? Hard work without the right pattern is just reinforcing failure faster. The real key is understanding the space between stimulus and response… That tiny moment where you have the power to choose a different action and reprogram success into your subconscious. This isn’t just another mindset episode!  This is the key that unlocks everything in all aspects of your life. If you’ve ever felt stuck in your business, personal growth, or even your sales conversions, this is the episode you can’t afford to miss. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today on The Russell Brunson Show, we’re diving deep into the master key that unlocks success in all areas of life! …Not just business, marketing, and selling. It’s the one concept that separates those who break through from those who stay stuck. If you’ve ever wondered why you keep repeating the same mistakes, struggle to take action, or feel trapped in a cycle, this episode will completely rewire the way you think about success.


At the heart of all personal and business growth is one critical element: pattern interrupts. The difference between those who succeed and those who don’t isn’t intelligence, talent, or resources… It’s their ability to recognize, break, and rebuild patterns. It doesn’t matter if it’s business, marketing, relationships, sales, health, or leadership, success is about identifying the subconscious loops that keep you stuck and replacing them with patterns that drive results.

Key Highlights:

◼️The hidden force controlling your actions and why most people never break free

◼️How your subconscious mind runs 27,500x faster than your conscious mind (and what that means for success)

◼️The 3-step framework for recognizing and interrupting patterns that hold you back

◼️Why most entrepreneurs struggle with execution - and how to fix it immediately

◼️How to reprogram your responses to failure, fear, and frustration so they fuel growth instead of stopping you

◼️The single biggest mistake people make when trying to change their habits


Most people try to work harder when they hit a wall. The truth? Hard work without the right pattern is just reinforcing failure faster. The real key is understanding the space between stimulus and response… That tiny moment where you have the power to choose a different action and reprogram success into your subconscious.


This isn’t just another mindset episode!  This is the key that unlocks everything in all aspects of your life. If you’ve ever felt stuck in your business, personal growth, or even your sales conversions, this is the episode you can’t afford to miss.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠


Special thanks to our sponsors:

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2314 Leadership & Vision: How to Capture and Cast a Vision That Inspires Growth | #Success - Ep. 13 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re diving into a critical yet often overlooked aspect of business success… leadership and vision. If you want to scale your company, attract top talent, and build a movement that fuels your marketing and sales, mastering visionary leadership is non-negotiable. Your role as an entrepreneur isn’t just to sell products, it’s to create a vision that customers, employees, and partners want to be part of. But how do you capture that vision in the first place? And once you have it, how do you cast it in a way that builds momentum, increases conversions, and positions your brand as a market leader? Key Highlights: ◼️Why a clear vision is your most powerful sales and marketing tool ◼️How to step up as a leader and set standards that attract loyal customers and team members ◼️The three mandates of leadership that will make people want to follow you ◼️Why energy and positioning are critical for increasing conversions and engagement ◼️The biggest mistake leaders make when communicating their vision - and how to avoid it ◼️Why unreasonable people change the world, and how to leverage that mindset to scale your business Most entrepreneurs make the mistake of waiting until their vision is “perfect” before taking action. But vision isn’t something you wait for, it’s something you develop through movement and execution. Whether you’re leading a business, a marketing campaign, or a community, this episode will help you build a vision that drives sales, increases engagement, and creates long-term impact. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re diving into a critical yet often overlooked aspect of business success… leadership and vision. If you want to scale your company, attract top talent, and build a movement that fuels your marketing and sales, mastering visionary leadership is non-negotiable. Your role as an entrepreneur isn’t just to sell products, it’s to create a vision that customers, employees, and partners want to be part of. But how do you capture that vision in the first place? And once you have it, how do you cast it in a way that builds momentum, increases conversions, and positions your brand as a market leader? Key Highlights: ◼️Why a clear vision is your most powerful sales and marketing tool ◼️How to step up as a leader and set standards that attract loyal customers and team members ◼️The three mandates of leadership that will make people want to follow you ◼️Why energy and positioning are critical for increasing conversions and engagement ◼️The biggest mistake leaders make when communicating their vision - and how to avoid it ◼️Why unreasonable people change the world, and how to leverage that mindset to scale your business Most entrepreneurs make the mistake of waiting until their vision is “perfect” before taking action. But vision isn’t something you wait for, it’s something you develop through movement and execution. Whether you’re leading a business, a marketing campaign, or a community, this episode will help you build a vision that drives sales, increases engagement, and creates long-term impact. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we’re diving into a critical yet often overlooked aspect of business success… leadership and vision. If you want to scale your company, attract top talent, and build a movement that fuels your marketing and sales, mastering visionary leadership is non-negotiable.


Your role as an entrepreneur isn’t just to sell products, it’s to create a vision that customers, employees, and partners want to be part of. But how do you capture that vision in the first place? And once you have it, how do you cast it in a way that builds momentum, increases conversions, and positions your brand as a market leader?

Key Highlights:

◼️Why a clear vision is your most powerful sales and marketing tool

◼️How to step up as a leader and set standards that attract loyal customers and team members

◼️The three mandates of leadership that will make people want to follow you

◼️Why energy and positioning are critical for increasing conversions and engagement

◼️The biggest mistake leaders make when communicating their vision - and how to avoid it

◼️Why unreasonable people change the world, and how to leverage that mindset to scale your business


Most entrepreneurs make the mistake of waiting until their vision is “perfect” before taking action. But vision isn’t something you wait for, it’s something you develop through movement and execution.


Whether you’re leading a business, a marketing campaign, or a community, this episode will help you build a vision that drives sales, increases engagement, and creates long-term impact.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2436 Content Launch Funnels: The Secret to Selling Anything... Without Selling Anything! | #Selling - Ep. 12 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m pulling back the curtain on a powerful strategy I’ve been quietly perfecting for the past four years… I call it the Content Launch Funnel. I love this funnel because it allows you to email your list daily without burning them out while simultaneously converting more people into buyers!  Seems to good to be true, I know, but it isn’t! Forget traditional product launches, this approach wraps your offers in value-driven content… Like candy!  You’ve heard, “A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down.”  Yea, it’s like that. The Content Launch Funnel makes it feel like you’re giving instead of selling. If you’ve ever struggled to keep your audience engaged or wanted a way to increase conversions without annoying your list, this is the strategy you need. Key Highlights: ◼️Why traditional email promotions burn out your audience - and how to fix it ◼️The Content Launch Funnel formula that makes your list want to hear from you daily ◼️How to wrap your offers in irresistible “candy” content so they naturally convert ◼️The “Thank You Page MIFGE” strategy that turned ClickFunnels into a billion-dollar brand ◼️How to structure your emails so they drive engagement, not unsubscribes Most people treat email marketing like a necessary evil - something they have to do, but that slowly erodes their list over time. With the Content Launch Funnel, you’re flipping the script and turning email into your biggest growth engine. Your audience will actually look forward to your messages, stay engaged longer, and buy more - without feeling like they’re constantly being sold to. If you’re ready to transform how you market, increase conversions, and build a loyal customer base that trusts you, this episode is packed with the exact blueprint to make it happen. https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/how-to-get-anything-you-want-challenge ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 24 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m pulling back the curtain on a powerful strategy I’ve been quietly perfecting for the past four years… I call it the Content Launch Funnel. I love this funnel because it allows you to email your list daily without burning them out while simultaneously converting more people into buyers!  Seems to good to be true, I know, but it isn’t! Forget traditional product launches, this approach wraps your offers in value-driven content… Like candy!  You’ve heard, “A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down.”  Yea, it’s like that. The Content Launch Funnel makes it feel like you’re giving instead of selling. If you’ve ever struggled to keep your audience engaged or wanted a way to increase conversions without annoying your list, this is the strategy you need. Key Highlights: ◼️Why traditional email promotions burn out your audience - and how to fix it ◼️The Content Launch Funnel formula that makes your list want to hear from you daily ◼️How to wrap your offers in irresistible “candy” content so they naturally convert ◼️The “Thank You Page MIFGE” strategy that turned ClickFunnels into a billion-dollar brand ◼️How to structure your emails so they drive engagement, not unsubscribes Most people treat email marketing like a necessary evil - something they have to do, but that slowly erodes their list over time. With the Content Launch Funnel, you’re flipping the script and turning email into your biggest growth engine. Your audience will actually look forward to your messages, stay engaged longer, and buy more - without feeling like they’re constantly being sold to. If you’re ready to transform how you market, increase conversions, and build a loyal customer base that trusts you, this episode is packed with the exact blueprint to make it happen. https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/how-to-get-anything-you-want-challenge ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m pulling back the curtain on a powerful strategy I’ve been quietly perfecting for the past four years… I call it the Content Launch Funnel. I love this funnel because it allows you to email your list daily without burning them out while simultaneously converting more people into buyers!  Seems to good to be true, I know, but it isn’t!


Forget traditional product launches, this approach wraps your offers in value-driven content… Like candy!  You’ve heard, “A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down.”  Yea, it’s like that. The Content Launch Funnel makes it feel like you’re giving instead of selling. If you’ve ever struggled to keep your audience engaged or wanted a way to increase conversions without annoying your list, this is the strategy you need.


Key Highlights:

◼️Why traditional email promotions burn out your audience - and how to fix it

◼️The Content Launch Funnel formula that makes your list want to hear from you daily

◼️How to wrap your offers in irresistible “candy” content so they naturally convert

◼️The “Thank You Page MIFGE” strategy that turned ClickFunnels into a billion-dollar brand

◼️How to structure your emails so they drive engagement, not unsubscribes


Most people treat email marketing like a necessary evil - something they have to do, but that slowly erodes their list over time. With the Content Launch Funnel, you’re flipping the script and turning email into your biggest growth engine.


Your audience will actually look forward to your messages, stay engaged longer, and buy more - without feeling like they’re constantly being sold to. If you’re ready to transform how you market, increase conversions, and build a loyal customer base that trusts you, this episode is packed with the exact blueprint to make it happen.

https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/how-to-get-anything-you-want-challenge


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2010 How to 2X Your Sales and 10X Your Profits by Mastering Momentum | #Marketing - Ep. 11 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m diving into one of the biggest secrets behind explosive business growth - momentum. Most marketers launch a product, see some initial success, and then stop!  It boggles my mind because they lose all the traction they’ve built. But if you understand how to keep momentum rolling, you can double your sales and 10X your profits - without spending more on ads! I’ll break down the launch within the launch strategy, show you how to capture customers while they’re in a buying mindset, and reveal the exact steps I’ve used to scale ClickFunnels beyond what most people think is possible. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most launches fail to generate real profit and how to fix it ◼️The “launch within the launch” strategy that maximizes revenue with zero extra ad spend ◼️How to keep buyers in heat so they continue buying from you ◼️The three-step framework to turn every campaign into a momentum machine ◼️How I’ve used this exact strategy to fuel ClickFunnels’ insane growth If you want to stop leaving money on the table and start leveraging momentum to scale your business, this episode is a must-listen! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000 How to 2X Your Sales and 10X Your Profits by Mastering Momentum | #Marketing - Ep. 11 full 4 11 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m diving into one of the biggest secrets behind explosive business growth - momentum. Most marketers launch a product, see some initial success, and then stop!  It boggles my mind because they lose all the traction they’ve built. But if you understand how to keep momentum rolling, you can double your sales and 10X your profits - without spending more on ads! I’ll break down the launch within the launch strategy, show you how to capture customers while they’re in a buying mindset, and reveal the exact steps I’ve used to scale ClickFunnels beyond what most people think is possible. Key Highlights: ◼️Why most launches fail to generate real profit and how to fix it ◼️The “launch within the launch” strategy that maximizes revenue with zero extra ad spend ◼️How to keep buyers in heat so they continue buying from you ◼️The three-step framework to turn every campaign into a momentum machine ◼️How I’ve used this exact strategy to fuel ClickFunnels’ insane growth If you want to stop leaving money on the table and start leveraging momentum to scale your business, this episode is a must-listen! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m diving into one of the biggest secrets behind explosive business growth - momentum. Most marketers launch a product, see some initial success, and then stop!  It boggles my mind because they lose all the traction they’ve built. But if you understand how to keep momentum rolling, you can double your sales and 10X your profits - without spending more on ads!


I’ll break down the launch within the launch strategy, show you how to capture customers while they’re in a buying mindset, and reveal the exact steps I’ve used to scale ClickFunnels beyond what most people think is possible.

Key Highlights:

◼️Why most launches fail to generate real profit and how to fix it

◼️The “launch within the launch” strategy that maximizes revenue with zero extra ad spend

◼️How to keep buyers in heat so they continue buying from you

◼️The three-step framework to turn every campaign into a momentum machine

◼️How I’ve used this exact strategy to fuel ClickFunnels’ insane growth


If you want to stop leaving money on the table and start leveraging momentum to scale your business, this episode is a must-listen!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 1909 How to Step Into Your Purpose and Change the World (Russell’s FHL 2025 Keynote) | #Marketing - Ep. 10 This is a special episode of The Russell Brunson Show, because it’s not just a normal podcast. It’s my keynote speech from the last ever FHL! I had a lot of time to think about what I’d say to kick off the event and get everyone ready for the next four days. And after thinking for weeks, it finally hit me! If I can pass one thing on… I want people to step into their purpose and change the world!  So, in this episode, I’m diving deep into what I call the entrepreneurial calling, sharing the powerful idea that success isn’t just about money or tactics but about stepping into your purpose. I’ll share some of my fears, struggles, and breakthroughs that came with answering the call to make an impact. And I’ll share a few personal stories too!  Many people dream of success but get stuck in fear, uncertainty, and hesitation. In this speech, I’ll unpack the hero’s journey that every entrepreneur must embark on - from hearing the call to make a difference, to facing resistance and ultimately stepping into your role as a leader. I’ll discuss the importance of finding a definite purpose, overcoming fear with faith, and embracing the struggles that shape you into the person you're meant to become! Key Highlights: ◼️The hero’s journey and why fear always comes before a breakthrough ◼️How to discover your definite purpose and align it with your calling ◼️The power of mentorship and why the right guide can change everything If you've ever felt the pull to do something bigger but found yourself hesitating, My final FHL Keynote speech will give you the clarity and confidence to move forward!  ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Answering the Call: How to Step Into Your Purpose and Change the World | #Marketing - Ep. 10 full 4 10 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is a special episode of The Russell Brunson Show, because it’s not just a normal podcast. It’s my keynote speech from the last ever FHL! I had a lot of time to think about what I’d say to kick off the event and get everyone ready for the next four days. And after thinking for weeks, it finally hit me! If I can pass one thing on… I want people to step into their purpose and change the world!  So, in this episode, I’m diving deep into what I call the entrepreneurial calling, sharing the powerful idea that success isn’t just about money or tactics but about stepping into your purpose. I’ll share some of my fears, struggles, and breakthroughs that came with answering the call to make an impact. And I’ll share a few personal stories too!  Many people dream of success but get stuck in fear, uncertainty, and hesitation. In this speech, I’ll unpack the hero’s journey that every entrepreneur must embark on - from hearing the call to make a difference, to facing resistance and ultimately stepping into your role as a leader. I’ll discuss the importance of finding a definite purpose, overcoming fear with faith, and embracing the struggles that shape you into the person you're meant to become! Key Highlights: ◼️The hero’s journey and why fear always comes before a breakthrough ◼️How to discover your definite purpose and align it with your calling ◼️The power of mentorship and why the right guide can change everything If you've ever felt the pull to do something bigger but found yourself hesitating, My final FHL Keynote speech will give you the clarity and confidence to move forward!  ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is a special episode of The Russell Brunson Show, because it’s not just a normal podcast. It’s my keynote speech from the last ever FHL! I had a lot of time to think about what I’d say to kick off the event and get everyone ready for the next four days. And after thinking for weeks, it finally hit me!


If I can pass one thing on… I want people to step into their purpose and change the world! 

So, in this episode, I’m diving deep into what I call the entrepreneurial calling, sharing the powerful idea that success isn’t just about money or tactics but about stepping into your purpose. I’ll share some of my fears, struggles, and breakthroughs that came with answering the call to make an impact. And I’ll share a few personal stories too!



Many people dream of success but get stuck in fear, uncertainty, and hesitation. In this speech, I’ll unpack the hero’s journey that every entrepreneur must embark on - from hearing the call to make a difference, to facing resistance and ultimately stepping into your role as a leader. I’ll discuss the importance of finding a definite purpose, overcoming fear with faith, and embracing the struggles that shape you into the person you're meant to become!


Key Highlights:

◼️The hero’s journey and why fear always comes before a breakthrough

◼️How to discover your definite purpose and align it with your calling

◼️The power of mentorship and why the right guide can change everything


If you've ever felt the pull to do something bigger but found yourself hesitating, My final FHL Keynote speech will give you the clarity and confidence to move forward!



◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3879 Creating a Movement: How to Build a Brand That People Follow for Life | #Marketing - Ep. 09 Most businesses sell products… The best businesses create movements!  In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m breaking down what it really takes to build a movement instead of just selling something. If you want to gather a loyal audience, create lasting impact, and turn customers into die-hard fans, this is the episode for you! Key Highlights: ◼️The two essential elements every successful movement is built on ◼️Why writing a book is the foundation for building a loyal following ◼️How hosting an industry event cements your authority and attracts your dream customers ◼️The difference between selling a product and leading a movement ◼️How ClickFunnels became more than just software—by building a movement of Funnel Hackers ◼️Why legacy comes from creating something bigger than yourself Building a movement isn’t just about making more sales… It’s about creating real impact and giving people something to rally behind. If you want to attract a loyal audience, establish long-term authority, and build a brand that lasts, it starts with these two key elements. This episode will show you how to plant your flag, gather your people, and build something that lasts! Let’s do it! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Creating a Movement: How to Build a Brand That People Follow for Life | #Marketing - Ep. 09 full 4 9 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most businesses sell products… The best businesses create movements!  In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m breaking down what it really takes to build a movement instead of just selling something. If you want to gather a loyal audience, create lasting impact, and turn customers into die-hard fans, this is the episode for you! Key Highlights: ◼️The two essential elements every successful movement is built on ◼️Why writing a book is the foundation for building a loyal following ◼️How hosting an industry event cements your authority and attracts your dream customers ◼️The difference between selling a product and leading a movement ◼️How ClickFunnels became more than just software—by building a movement of Funnel Hackers ◼️Why legacy comes from creating something bigger than yourself Building a movement isn’t just about making more sales… It’s about creating real impact and giving people something to rally behind. If you want to attract a loyal audience, establish long-term authority, and build a brand that lasts, it starts with these two key elements. This episode will show you how to plant your flag, gather your people, and build something that lasts! Let’s do it! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most businesses sell products… The best businesses create movements!  In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I’m breaking down what it really takes to build a movement instead of just selling something. If you want to gather a loyal audience, create lasting impact, and turn customers into die-hard fans, this is the episode for you!

Key Highlights:

◼️The two essential elements every successful movement is built on

◼️Why writing a book is the foundation for building a loyal following

◼️How hosting an industry event cements your authority and attracts your dream customers

◼️The difference between selling a product and leading a movement

◼️How ClickFunnels became more than just software—by building a movement of Funnel Hackers

◼️Why legacy comes from creating something bigger than yourself


Building a movement isn’t just about making more sales… It’s about creating real impact and giving people something to rally behind. If you want to attract a loyal audience, establish long-term authority, and build a brand that lasts, it starts with these two key elements.


This episode will show you how to plant your flag, gather your people, and build something that lasts! Let’s do it!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2025 Getting Stuff Done: The Framework for Finishing What You Start | #Success - Ep. 08 Most entrepreneurs struggle to finish what they start. They jump from one idea to the next, never getting their projects across the finish line. In this episode, I break down exactly how I get so much done - from launching multiple companies to rolling out new funnels, events, and content at lightning speed. If you feel like you’re constantly spinning your wheels but not making real progress, this is the episode you need. Key Highlights: ◼️The secret to actually finishing what you start – Most entrepreneurs are great starters but terrible finishers. I’ll show you how to break the cycle and complete the projects that will grow your business. ◼️Why deadlines are everything – I don’t just set goals—I set letter gold deadlines that never move. I’ll explain why this mindset shift is the reason we get so much done so fast. ◼️How to compress time and get more done in a week than most do in a year – It’s not about working harder—it’s about working smarter. I’ll share how we execute projects at record speed. ◼️The ‘Who Not How’ principle that changes everything – Stop trying to do everything yourself. I’ll teach you how to find the right who’s so you can move faster and scale bigger. ◼️Why launching before you're ready is the key to winning – Perfection kills momentum. I’ll show you how we launch fast, iterate, and improve with every version to build million-dollar funnels quickly. Most people waste months (or years) waiting for the perfect moment to launch - only to get stuck in a never-ending cycle of planning. If you want to break free and actually build something great, this episode will give you the framework to get things done! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Getting Stuff Done: The Framework for Finishing What You Start | #Success - Ep. 08 full 4 8 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most entrepreneurs struggle to finish what they start. They jump from one idea to the next, never getting their projects across the finish line. In this episode, I break down exactly how I get so much done - from launching multiple companies to rolling out new funnels, events, and content at lightning speed. If you feel like you’re constantly spinning your wheels but not making real progress, this is the episode you need. Key Highlights: ◼️The secret to actually finishing what you start – Most entrepreneurs are great starters but terrible finishers. I’ll show you how to break the cycle and complete the projects that will grow your business. ◼️Why deadlines are everything – I don’t just set goals—I set letter gold deadlines that never move. I’ll explain why this mindset shift is the reason we get so much done so fast. ◼️How to compress time and get more done in a week than most do in a year – It’s not about working harder—it’s about working smarter. I’ll share how we execute projects at record speed. ◼️The ‘Who Not How’ principle that changes everything – Stop trying to do everything yourself. I’ll teach you how to find the right who’s so you can move faster and scale bigger. ◼️Why launching before you're ready is the key to winning – Perfection kills momentum. I’ll show you how we launch fast, iterate, and improve with every version to build million-dollar funnels quickly. Most people waste months (or years) waiting for the perfect moment to launch - only to get stuck in a never-ending cycle of planning. If you want to break free and actually build something great, this episode will give you the framework to get things done! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most entrepreneurs struggle to finish what they start. They jump from one idea to the next, never getting their projects across the finish line. In this episode, I break down exactly how I get so much done - from launching multiple companies to rolling out new funnels, events, and content at lightning speed. If you feel like you’re constantly spinning your wheels but not making real progress, this is the episode you need.

Key Highlights:

◼️The secret to actually finishing what you start – Most entrepreneurs are great starters but terrible finishers. I’ll show you how to break the cycle and complete the projects that will grow your business.

◼️Why deadlines are everything – I don’t just set goals—I set letter gold deadlines that never move. I’ll explain why this mindset shift is the reason we get so much done so fast.

◼️How to compress time and get more done in a week than most do in a year – It’s not about working harder—it’s about working smarter. I’ll share how we execute projects at record speed.

◼️The ‘Who Not How’ principle that changes everything – Stop trying to do everything yourself. I’ll teach you how to find the right who’s so you can move faster and scale bigger.

◼️Why launching before you're ready is the key to winning – Perfection kills momentum. I’ll show you how we launch fast, iterate, and improve with every version to build million-dollar funnels quickly.


Most people waste months (or years) waiting for the perfect moment to launch - only to get stuck in a never-ending cycle of planning. If you want to break free and actually build something great, this episode will give you the framework to get things done!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3295 The Publishing Playbook: How to Win Before You Launch | #Marketing - Ep. 07 Most people build a funnel first and then try to find traffic. But that’s completely backward! In this episode, I share why your number one focus should be gathering an audience long before your funnel launches. I’ll break down the exact strategies I’ve used to dominate in marketing. Whether it's building ClickFunnels into the category leader or creating products that people are already lined up to buy. If you’re struggling to get momentum, this episode is for you. Key Highlights: ◼️Dig your well before you're thirsty - If you wait until your funnel is live to build an audience, you’ve already lost. ◼️The two paths to traffic - Working your way in (free strategies) vs. buying your way in (paid ads). You need both, but I’ll tell you where to start. ◼️The power of relationships - Most successful marketers don’t rely on ads alone. I’ll show you how connecting with the right influencers can send a flood of traffic your way. ◼️Why publishing content is non-negotiable - You can’t just build an offer and hope people show up. I’ll explain why consistent content is the secret to long-term success. ◼️How I’ve used these strategies to dominate competitors - From beating Leadpages to taking on GHL, I’ll share the mindset and tactics that keep ClickFunnels ahead. If you’re serious about selling online, you can’t afford to wait until launch day to find your audience. The second you decide to start a business, you need to start gathering the many. In this episode, I’ll break down exactly how to do that, so when your funnel is ready, you’ve already got a crowd waiting to buy! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000 The Publishing Playbook: How to Win Before You Launch | #Marketing - Ep. 07 full 4 7 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most people build a funnel first and then try to find traffic. But that’s completely backward! In this episode, I share why your number one focus should be gathering an audience long before your funnel launches. I’ll break down the exact strategies I’ve used to dominate in marketing. Whether it's building ClickFunnels into the category leader or creating products that people are already lined up to buy. If you’re struggling to get momentum, this episode is for you. Key Highlights: ◼️Dig your well before you're thirsty - If you wait until your funnel is live to build an audience, you’ve already lost. ◼️The two paths to traffic - Working your way in (free strategies) vs. buying your way in (paid ads). You need both, but I’ll tell you where to start. ◼️The power of relationships - Most successful marketers don’t rely on ads alone. I’ll show you how connecting with the right influencers can send a flood of traffic your way. ◼️Why publishing content is non-negotiable - You can’t just build an offer and hope people show up. I’ll explain why consistent content is the secret to long-term success. ◼️How I’ve used these strategies to dominate competitors - From beating Leadpages to taking on GHL, I’ll share the mindset and tactics that keep ClickFunnels ahead. If you’re serious about selling online, you can’t afford to wait until launch day to find your audience. The second you decide to start a business, you need to start gathering the many. In this episode, I’ll break down exactly how to do that, so when your funnel is ready, you’ve already got a crowd waiting to buy! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most people build a funnel first and then try to find traffic. But that’s completely backward! In this episode, I share why your number one focus should be gathering an audience long before your funnel launches. I’ll break down the exact strategies I’ve used to dominate in marketing. Whether it's building ClickFunnels into the category leader or creating products that people are already lined up to buy. If you’re struggling to get momentum, this episode is for you.

Key Highlights:

◼️Dig your well before you're thirsty - If you wait until your funnel is live to build an audience, you’ve already lost.

◼️The two paths to traffic - Working your way in (free strategies) vs. buying your way in (paid ads). You need both, but I’ll tell you where to start.

◼️The power of relationships - Most successful marketers don’t rely on ads alone. I’ll show you how connecting with the right influencers can send a flood of traffic your way.

◼️Why publishing content is non-negotiable - You can’t just build an offer and hope people show up. I’ll explain why consistent content is the secret to long-term success.

◼️How I’ve used these strategies to dominate competitors - From beating Leadpages to taking on GHL, I’ll share the mindset and tactics that keep ClickFunnels ahead.


If you’re serious about selling online, you can’t afford to wait until launch day to find your audience. The second you decide to start a business, you need to start gathering the many. In this episode, I’ll break down exactly how to do that, so when your funnel is ready, you’ve already got a crowd waiting to buy!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2957 Prime Mover Core Values: Our Formula For Winning | #Success - Ep. 06 What separates successful entrepreneurs and marketers from those who struggle? It’s not just strategy… values! In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down the essential principles that drive long-term success in business, marketing, and selling. I’ll share the core values we developed inside our company, Prime Mover, and explain why setting the right standards can elevate your business, your team, and your ability to influence and sell effectively. You’ll hear the lessons I’ve learned from top business leaders, personal mentors, and even my own experiences in wrestling that shaped these principles. Key Highlights: ◼️The role of “values” in sales, marketing, and business success, and why most entrepreneurs overlook them. ◼️How structuring your company around growth, contribution, and extreme ownership creates a winning culture. ◼️Why the best marketers and business owners funnel hack first instead of starting from scratch. ◼️The hidden power of over-delivering and how it turns customers into lifelong fans. ◼️The golden rule applied to marketing and sales and how treating others the way you want to be treated builds trust and drives results. ◼️The secret to pushing past mediocrity: Work until you’re proud. Whether you’re a marketer, entrepreneur, or business owner looking to scale your sales and influence, this episode will challenge you to rethink how values shape your path to success. Tune in and start applying these principles today! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Prime Mover Core Values: Our Formula For Winning | #Success - Ep. 06 full 4 6 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What separates successful entrepreneurs and marketers from those who struggle? It’s not just strategy… values! In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down the essential principles that drive long-term success in business, marketing, and selling. I’ll share the core values we developed inside our company, Prime Mover, and explain why setting the right standards can elevate your business, your team, and your ability to influence and sell effectively. You’ll hear the lessons I’ve learned from top business leaders, personal mentors, and even my own experiences in wrestling that shaped these principles. Key Highlights: ◼️The role of “values” in sales, marketing, and business success, and why most entrepreneurs overlook them. ◼️How structuring your company around growth, contribution, and extreme ownership creates a winning culture. ◼️Why the best marketers and business owners funnel hack first instead of starting from scratch. ◼️The hidden power of over-delivering and how it turns customers into lifelong fans. ◼️The golden rule applied to marketing and sales and how treating others the way you want to be treated builds trust and drives results. ◼️The secret to pushing past mediocrity: Work until you’re proud. Whether you’re a marketer, entrepreneur, or business owner looking to scale your sales and influence, this episode will challenge you to rethink how values shape your path to success. Tune in and start applying these principles today! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What separates successful entrepreneurs and marketers from those who struggle? It’s not just strategy… values! In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down the essential principles that drive long-term success in business, marketing, and selling.

I’ll share the core values we developed inside our company, Prime Mover, and explain why setting the right standards can elevate your business, your team, and your ability to influence and sell effectively. You’ll hear the lessons I’ve learned from top business leaders, personal mentors, and even my own experiences in wrestling that shaped these principles.

Key Highlights:

◼️The role of “values” in sales, marketing, and business success, and why most entrepreneurs overlook them.

◼️How structuring your company around growth, contribution, and extreme ownership creates a winning culture.

◼️Why the best marketers and business owners funnel hack first instead of starting from scratch.

◼️The hidden power of over-delivering and how it turns customers into lifelong fans.

◼️The golden rule applied to marketing and sales and how treating others the way you want to be treated builds trust and drives results.

◼️The secret to pushing past mediocrity: Work until you’re proud.


Whether you’re a marketer, entrepreneur, or business owner looking to scale your sales and influence, this episode will challenge you to rethink how values shape your path to success.

Tune in and start applying these principles today!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2283 The Law of the Harvest: Success Starts with Daily Seeds | #Success - Ep. 05 Today, we’re diving into one of the most important principles for success in marketing, sales, business, relationships, and life: the Law of the Harvest. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down how the seeds you’re planting today, through your habits, strategies, and mindset, determine the results you’ll reap tomorrow. This is applicable to more than just marketing and selling. Whether you’re trying to grow your business, improve your health, or strengthen your relationships, understanding and applying the Law of the Harvest is the key to achieving long-term success. We’ll talk about how to identify the right strategies, create daily habits that make planting seeds automatic, and focus your energy on areas of life that matter most. I’ll also share personal stories, from my wrestling days to building ClickFunnels, that illustrate how consistent effort over time leads to bountiful results. Key Highlights: ◼️The 3 steps to applying the Law of the Harvest in any area of life: strategy, habits, and focus. ◼️Why success isn’t about luck—it’s about consistently planting the right seeds every day. ◼️How subconscious patterns and habits shape your outcomes, whether you realize it or not. ◼️My personal wrestling journey: How perfect practice and repetition taught me the value of consistency. ◼️How to plant seeds in your business (lead generation, relationships, and more) for long-term growth. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a parent, or someone striving to improve any area of life, this episode will give you actionable insights to take control of your future by planting the right seeds today! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000 The Law of the Harvest: Success Starts with Daily Seeds | #Success - Ep. 05 full 4 5 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today, we’re diving into one of the most important principles for success in marketing, sales, business, relationships, and life: the Law of the Harvest. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down how the seeds you’re planting today, through your habits, strategies, and mindset, determine the results you’ll reap tomorrow. This is applicable to more than just marketing and selling. Whether you’re trying to grow your business, improve your health, or strengthen your relationships, understanding and applying the Law of the Harvest is the key to achieving long-term success. We’ll talk about how to identify the right strategies, create daily habits that make planting seeds automatic, and focus your energy on areas of life that matter most. I’ll also share personal stories, from my wrestling days to building ClickFunnels, that illustrate how consistent effort over time leads to bountiful results. Key Highlights: ◼️The 3 steps to applying the Law of the Harvest in any area of life: strategy, habits, and focus. ◼️Why success isn’t about luck—it’s about consistently planting the right seeds every day. ◼️How subconscious patterns and habits shape your outcomes, whether you realize it or not. ◼️My personal wrestling journey: How perfect practice and repetition taught me the value of consistency. ◼️How to plant seeds in your business (lead generation, relationships, and more) for long-term growth. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a parent, or someone striving to improve any area of life, this episode will give you actionable insights to take control of your future by planting the right seeds today! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today, we’re diving into one of the most important principles for success in marketing, sales, business, relationships, and life: the Law of the Harvest.

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I break down how the seeds you’re planting today, through your habits, strategies, and mindset, determine the results you’ll reap tomorrow. This is applicable to more than just marketing and selling. Whether you’re trying to grow your business, improve your health, or strengthen your relationships, understanding and applying the Law of the Harvest is the key to achieving long-term success.

We’ll talk about how to identify the right strategies, create daily habits that make planting seeds automatic, and focus your energy on areas of life that matter most. I’ll also share personal stories, from my wrestling days to building ClickFunnels, that illustrate how consistent effort over time leads to bountiful results.

Key Highlights:

◼️The 3 steps to applying the Law of the Harvest in any area of life: strategy, habits, and focus.

◼️Why success isn’t about luck—it’s about consistently planting the right seeds every day.

◼️How subconscious patterns and habits shape your outcomes, whether you realize it or not.

◼️My personal wrestling journey: How perfect practice and repetition taught me the value of consistency.

◼️How to plant seeds in your business (lead generation, relationships, and more) for long-term growth.


Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a parent, or someone striving to improve any area of life, this episode will give you actionable insights to take control of your future by planting the right seeds today!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2368 Unlocking Desire: The Missing Ingredient in Marketing and Sales | #Success - Ep. 04 In this episode we’re diving into one of the most powerful forces driving success in marketing, sales, and life: desire. I break down the three steps to understanding and amplifying desire - not just for your customers, but for yourself and the people you want to influence. Whether you’re trying to boost sales, refine your marketing strategies, or motivate yourself to reach new goals, learning how to harness and amplify desire is the key to unlocking success. We’ll talk about how to identify existing desires, connect those desires to the results you’re offering, and amplify them to create unstoppable momentum. I’ll also share personal stories - from wrestling, parenting, and even building ClickFunnels - that reveal how desire has shaped who I’ve become in both business and life. Key Highlights: ◼️The Three Steps to Desire: Identify, connect, and amplify to influence and motivate. ◼️Why desire is the foundation for successful marketing, selling, and personal development. ◼️How to inspire desire in your customers, audience, or loved ones - even when it feels impossible. ◼️The power of proximity: Surrounding yourself with passionate people to fuel your own fire. ◼️Reframing false beliefs: Overcoming the subconscious barriers that hold you back from success. Whether you’re a marketer, entrepreneur, or someone striving for personal growth, this episode will give you incredible insights to influence others and truly get the results you want. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Unlocking Desire: The Missing Ingredient in Marketing and Sales | #Success - Ep. 04 full 4 4 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode we’re diving into one of the most powerful forces driving success in marketing, sales, and life: desire. I break down the three steps to understanding and amplifying desire - not just for your customers, but for yourself and the people you want to influence. Whether you’re trying to boost sales, refine your marketing strategies, or motivate yourself to reach new goals, learning how to harness and amplify desire is the key to unlocking success. We’ll talk about how to identify existing desires, connect those desires to the results you’re offering, and amplify them to create unstoppable momentum. I’ll also share personal stories - from wrestling, parenting, and even building ClickFunnels - that reveal how desire has shaped who I’ve become in both business and life. Key Highlights: ◼️The Three Steps to Desire: Identify, connect, and amplify to influence and motivate. ◼️Why desire is the foundation for successful marketing, selling, and personal development. ◼️How to inspire desire in your customers, audience, or loved ones - even when it feels impossible. ◼️The power of proximity: Surrounding yourself with passionate people to fuel your own fire. ◼️Reframing false beliefs: Overcoming the subconscious barriers that hold you back from success. Whether you’re a marketer, entrepreneur, or someone striving for personal growth, this episode will give you incredible insights to influence others and truly get the results you want. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode we’re diving into one of the most powerful forces driving success in marketing, sales, and life: desire. I break down the three steps to understanding and amplifying desire - not just for your customers, but for yourself and the people you want to influence. Whether you’re trying to boost sales, refine your marketing strategies, or motivate yourself to reach new goals, learning how to harness and amplify desire is the key to unlocking success.

We’ll talk about how to identify existing desires, connect those desires to the results you’re offering, and amplify them to create unstoppable momentum. I’ll also share personal stories - from wrestling, parenting, and even building ClickFunnels - that reveal how desire has shaped who I’ve become in both business and life.

Key Highlights:

◼️The Three Steps to Desire: Identify, connect, and amplify to influence and motivate.

◼️Why desire is the foundation for successful marketing, selling, and personal development.

◼️How to inspire desire in your customers, audience, or loved ones - even when it feels impossible.

◼️The power of proximity: Surrounding yourself with passionate people to fuel your own fire.

◼️Reframing false beliefs: Overcoming the subconscious barriers that hold you back from success.


Whether you’re a marketer, entrepreneur, or someone striving for personal growth, this episode will give you incredible insights to influence others and truly get the results you want.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2815 Dan Kennedy’s Blueprint for One-To-Many Selling | #Sales - Ep. 03 In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we dive deep into the powerful concept of one-to-many selling and marketing - how to scale your message and grow your business by presenting to groups rather than individuals. Dan’s insights are not only brilliant but also practical, especially for traditional and local businesses looking to leverage these strategies in their industries. Dan has been my go-to source of inspiration and knowledge on selling for nearly two decades, from attending his masterminds early in my career to listening to his courses daily as I built ClickFunnels. Now, as the owner of his company, I get the privilege of interviewing him regularly, and today’s “group sales” conversation is packed with actionable strategies and timeless wisdom. Key Highlights: ◼️The power of one-to-many selling: Why it’s the most efficient and profitable way to grow your business. ◼️Real-world examples: How traditional businesses like chiropractors, real estate agents, and financial advisors can use these strategies. ◼️Lessons from the past: How Tupperware parties, Botox demonstrations, and more pioneered one-to-many selling. ◼️Insights for any business: Why mastering this one to many selling skill is critical, no matter what kind of business you run. Whether you’re scaling your online business, running a brick-and-mortar store, or just getting started, this episode will equip you with the tools to think bigger, sell smarter, and create exponential growth. Tune in now to learn from the one and only Dan Kennedy, and discover how one-to-many selling can transform your business! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Dan Kennedy’s Blueprint for One-To-Many Selling | #Sales - Ep. 03 full 4 3 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we dive deep into the powerful concept of one-to-many selling and marketing - how to scale your message and grow your business by presenting to groups rather than individuals. Dan’s insights are not only brilliant but also practical, especially for traditional and local businesses looking to leverage these strategies in their industries. Dan has been my go-to source of inspiration and knowledge on selling for nearly two decades, from attending his masterminds early in my career to listening to his courses daily as I built ClickFunnels. Now, as the owner of his company, I get the privilege of interviewing him regularly, and today’s “group sales” conversation is packed with actionable strategies and timeless wisdom. Key Highlights: ◼️The power of one-to-many selling: Why it’s the most efficient and profitable way to grow your business. ◼️Real-world examples: How traditional businesses like chiropractors, real estate agents, and financial advisors can use these strategies. ◼️Lessons from the past: How Tupperware parties, Botox demonstrations, and more pioneered one-to-many selling. ◼️Insights for any business: Why mastering this one to many selling skill is critical, no matter what kind of business you run. Whether you’re scaling your online business, running a brick-and-mortar store, or just getting started, this episode will equip you with the tools to think bigger, sell smarter, and create exponential growth. Tune in now to learn from the one and only Dan Kennedy, and discover how one-to-many selling can transform your business! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, we dive deep into the powerful concept of one-to-many selling and marketing - how to scale your message and grow your business by presenting to groups rather than individuals. Dan’s insights are not only brilliant but also practical, especially for traditional and local businesses looking to leverage these strategies in their industries.

Dan has been my go-to source of inspiration and knowledge on selling for nearly two decades, from attending his masterminds early in my career to listening to his courses daily as I built ClickFunnels. Now, as the owner of his company, I get the privilege of interviewing him regularly, and today’s “group sales” conversation is packed with actionable strategies and timeless wisdom.

Key Highlights:

◼️The power of one-to-many selling: Why it’s the most efficient and profitable way to grow your business.

◼️Real-world examples: How traditional businesses like chiropractors, real estate agents, and financial advisors can use these strategies.

◼️Lessons from the past: How Tupperware parties, Botox demonstrations, and more pioneered one-to-many selling.

◼️Insights for any business: Why mastering this one to many selling skill is critical, no matter what kind of business you run.


Whether you’re scaling your online business, running a brick-and-mortar store, or just getting started, this episode will equip you with the tools to think bigger, sell smarter, and create exponential growth.

Tune in now to learn from the one and only Dan Kennedy, and discover how one-to-many selling can transform your business!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 4107 Fear: The Ghost Standing Between You and Success | #Success - Ep. 02 Today, we’re diving into one of the biggest challenges that holds us back from success: fear. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I explore how fear impacts our ability to achieve our goals and how to overcome it. Drawing inspiration from a powerful book written over 100 years ago by Dr. Frank Crane, I’ll share timeless lessons on conquering fear and turning it into a force for growth. We often think success is about tactics and strategies, but the truth is, it’s 90% mindset and psychology. I break down four essential lessons for dealing with fear, from changing how we interpret it to facing worst-case scenarios head-on. Whether it’s fear of failure, fear of judgment, or fear of the unknown, this episode will give you the tools to face it and move forward. Key Highlights: ◼️The psychology of fear: Why it’s the biggest obstacle to success and how to break its hold. ◼️Lessons from Dr. Frank Crane’s book Fear: Insights that are as relevant today as they were in 1921. ◼️Four steps to conquer fear: Practical strategies to shift your mindset and take action. If fear has ever knocked the cup of success from your lips, this episode will show you how to take it back. Tune in to learn how to reframe fear, overcome it, and unlock the success you deserve. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Fear: The Ghost Standing Between You and Success | #Success - Ep. 02 full 4 2 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today, we’re diving into one of the biggest challenges that holds us back from success: fear. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I explore how fear impacts our ability to achieve our goals and how to overcome it. Drawing inspiration from a powerful book written over 100 years ago by Dr. Frank Crane, I’ll share timeless lessons on conquering fear and turning it into a force for growth. We often think success is about tactics and strategies, but the truth is, it’s 90% mindset and psychology. I break down four essential lessons for dealing with fear, from changing how we interpret it to facing worst-case scenarios head-on. Whether it’s fear of failure, fear of judgment, or fear of the unknown, this episode will give you the tools to face it and move forward. Key Highlights: ◼️The psychology of fear: Why it’s the biggest obstacle to success and how to break its hold. ◼️Lessons from Dr. Frank Crane’s book Fear: Insights that are as relevant today as they were in 1921. ◼️Four steps to conquer fear: Practical strategies to shift your mindset and take action. If fear has ever knocked the cup of success from your lips, this episode will show you how to take it back. Tune in to learn how to reframe fear, overcome it, and unlock the success you deserve. ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today, we’re diving into one of the biggest challenges that holds us back from success: fear. In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I explore how fear impacts our ability to achieve our goals and how to overcome it. Drawing inspiration from a powerful book written over 100 years ago by Dr. Frank Crane, I’ll share timeless lessons on conquering fear and turning it into a force for growth.

We often think success is about tactics and strategies, but the truth is, it’s 90% mindset and psychology. I break down four essential lessons for dealing with fear, from changing how we interpret it to facing worst-case scenarios head-on. Whether it’s fear of failure, fear of judgment, or fear of the unknown, this episode will give you the tools to face it and move forward.

Key Highlights:

◼️The psychology of fear: Why it’s the biggest obstacle to success and how to break its hold.

◼️Lessons from Dr. Frank Crane’s book Fear: Insights that are as relevant today as they were in 1921.

◼️Four steps to conquer fear: Practical strategies to shift your mindset and take action.


If fear has ever knocked the cup of success from your lips, this episode will show you how to take it back. Tune in to learn how to reframe fear, overcome it, and unlock the success you deserve.


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 2078 The Russell Brunson Show: A New Beginning for 2025 | #Marketing - Ep. 01 Today, I’m thrilled to introduce not just a new episode but a completely rebranded podcast: The Russell Brunson Show! This transformation represents a shift, not only in the podcast’s name but in its format and focus. After years of being boxed into the “Marketing Secrets” space, I’m excited to expand into conversations about marketing, sales, personal development, and the stories of impactful individuals throughout history. This evolution allows me to bring you more value, more insights, and more variety—all while staying true to what you’ve loved about the show. In this premiere episode, I take you back to where it all started: from Marketing in Your Car to Marketing Secrets, and now, to The Russell Brunson Show. I share some pivotal moments from my entrepreneurial journey, discuss why 2024 was one of the toughest years in my life and business, and outline six key areas I’m focusing on in 2025 to ensure massive growth. These six principles aren’t just guiding me—they’re strategies you can use to scale your own business this year. Key Highlights: ◼️The Power of Reinvention: Why the podcast rebrand reflects the evolving needs of my audience and my mission. ◼️Six Growth Strategies for 2025: Discover what I’m doubling down on this year, including break-even funnels, metrics, ad creativity, and curiosity. ◼️Lessons from the Past: How overcoming personal and professional challenges shaped my perspective on resilience and innovation. Whether you’re new to my world or a long-time listener, this first episode marks an exciting new chapter. Tune in to get inspired, refocused, and equipped for a year of extraordinary growth. I can’t wait to share more in the episodes to come! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000 The Russell Brunson Show: A New Beginning for 2025 | #Marketing - Ep. 01 full 4 1 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today, I’m thrilled to introduce not just a new episode but a completely rebranded podcast: The Russell Brunson Show! This transformation represents a shift, not only in the podcast’s name but in its format and focus. After years of being boxed into the “Marketing Secrets” space, I’m excited to expand into conversations about marketing, sales, personal development, and the stories of impactful individuals throughout history. This evolution allows me to bring you more value, more insights, and more variety—all while staying true to what you’ve loved about the show. In this premiere episode, I take you back to where it all started: from Marketing in Your Car to Marketing Secrets, and now, to The Russell Brunson Show. I share some pivotal moments from my entrepreneurial journey, discuss why 2024 was one of the toughest years in my life and business, and outline six key areas I’m focusing on in 2025 to ensure massive growth. These six principles aren’t just guiding me—they’re strategies you can use to scale your own business this year. Key Highlights: ◼️The Power of Reinvention: Why the podcast rebrand reflects the evolving needs of my audience and my mission. ◼️Six Growth Strategies for 2025: Discover what I’m doubling down on this year, including break-even funnels, metrics, ad creativity, and curiosity. ◼️Lessons from the Past: How overcoming personal and professional challenges shaped my perspective on resilience and innovation. Whether you’re new to my world or a long-time listener, this first episode marks an exciting new chapter. Tune in to get inspired, refocused, and equipped for a year of extraordinary growth. I can’t wait to share more in the episodes to come! ◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ◼️Still don’t have a funnel? ClickFunnels gives you the exact tools (and templates) to launch TODAY → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today, I’m thrilled to introduce not just a new episode but a completely rebranded podcast: The Russell Brunson Show! This transformation represents a shift, not only in the podcast’s name but in its format and focus. After years of being boxed into the “Marketing Secrets” space, I’m excited to expand into conversations about marketing, sales, personal development, and the stories of impactful individuals throughout history. This evolution allows me to bring you more value, more insights, and more variety—all while staying true to what you’ve loved about the show.

In this premiere episode, I take you back to where it all started: from Marketing in Your Car to Marketing Secrets, and now, to The Russell Brunson Show. I share some pivotal moments from my entrepreneurial journey, discuss why 2024 was one of the toughest years in my life and business, and outline six key areas I’m focusing on in 2025 to ensure massive growth. These six principles aren’t just guiding me—they’re strategies you can use to scale your own business this year.

Key Highlights:

◼️The Power of Reinvention: Why the podcast rebrand reflects the evolving needs of my audience and my mission.

◼️Six Growth Strategies for 2025: Discover what I’m doubling down on this year, including break-even funnels, metrics, ad creativity, and curiosity.

◼️Lessons from the Past: How overcoming personal and professional challenges shaped my perspective on resilience and innovation.


Whether you’re new to my world or a long-time listener, this first episode marks an exciting new chapter. Tune in to get inspired, refocused, and equipped for a year of extraordinary growth. I can’t wait to share more in the episodes to come!


◼️If you’ve got a product, offer, service… or idea… I’ll show you how to sell it (the RIGHT way) Register for my next event →⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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]]> 3550 From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs Recently I had the chance to hop onto another one of our One Funnel Away Challenge Q&A calls, and it was incredible. These calls always spark engaging discussions, and this time was no different. We tackled a range of fascinating questions from participants, each one brimming with insights applicable to anyone working to grow their business. Whether you're fine-tuning an offer, struggling with audience targeting, or figuring out how to raise prices confidently, this episode has you covered. I even shared some of my favorite strategies for getting unstuck in business and creating momentum. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, you'll hear me address some tough yet universal questions, like how to sell to an audience that doesn’t yet know what it truly needs and how to pivot your messaging to resonate better. We also explored the importance of charging what your work is worth—not just for profitability, but to ensure your audience values and implements what you offer. Plus, I shared the story of how I became “the funnel guy” by zeroing in on a niche, a strategy you can apply to any business to stand out in your market. Key Highlights: Shifting your focus: Should you change your audience or adjust your offer? Leveraging psychology and storytelling to connect with your ideal clients. The secret to raising prices—and why it benefits both you and your audience. How to use live Q&A calls and ask campaigns to better understand your customers' needs. Strategies to create lower-level offers that nurture leads into higher-ticket sales. If you’re looking for actionable advice to move the needle in your business, this episode is packed with tips and strategies you can implement right away. Whether you’re new to ClickFunnels or a seasoned entrepreneur, this Q&A session offers valuable lessons to help you take the next step on your journey. Tune in and enjoy! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000 From Stuck to Scaling: Transformative Advice for Entrepreneurs full 3 73 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently I had the chance to hop onto another one of our One Funnel Away Challenge Q&A calls, and it was incredible. These calls always spark engaging discussions, and this time was no different. We tackled a range of fascinating questions from participants, each one brimming with insights applicable to anyone working to grow their business. Whether you're fine-tuning an offer, struggling with audience targeting, or figuring out how to raise prices confidently, this episode has you covered. I even shared some of my favorite strategies for getting unstuck in business and creating momentum. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, you'll hear me address some tough yet universal questions, like how to sell to an audience that doesn’t yet know what it truly needs and how to pivot your messaging to resonate better. We also explored the importance of charging what your work is worth—not just for profitability, but to ensure your audience values and implements what you offer. Plus, I shared the story of how I became “the funnel guy” by zeroing in on a niche, a strategy you can apply to any business to stand out in your market. Key Highlights: Shifting your focus: Should you change your audience or adjust your offer? Leveraging psychology and storytelling to connect with your ideal clients. The secret to raising prices—and why it benefits both you and your audience. How to use live Q&A calls and ask campaigns to better understand your customers' needs. Strategies to create lower-level offers that nurture leads into higher-ticket sales. If you’re looking for actionable advice to move the needle in your business, this episode is packed with tips and strategies you can implement right away. Whether you’re new to ClickFunnels or a seasoned entrepreneur, this Q&A session offers valuable lessons to help you take the next step on your journey. Tune in and enjoy! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently I had the chance to hop onto another one of our One Funnel Away Challenge Q&A calls, and it was incredible. These calls always spark engaging discussions, and this time was no different. We tackled a range of fascinating questions from participants, each one brimming with insights applicable to anyone working to grow their business. Whether you're fine-tuning an offer, struggling with audience targeting, or figuring out how to raise prices confidently, this episode has you covered. I even shared some of my favorite strategies for getting unstuck in business and creating momentum.

In this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, you'll hear me address some tough yet universal questions, like how to sell to an audience that doesn’t yet know what it truly needs and how to pivot your messaging to resonate better. We also explored the importance of charging what your work is worth—not just for profitability, but to ensure your audience values and implements what you offer. Plus, I shared the story of how I became “the funnel guy” by zeroing in on a niche, a strategy you can apply to any business to stand out in your market.

Key Highlights:

  • Shifting your focus: Should you change your audience or adjust your offer?
  • Leveraging psychology and storytelling to connect with your ideal clients.
  • The secret to raising prices—and why it benefits both you and your audience.
  • How to use live Q&A calls and ask campaigns to better understand your customers' needs.
  • Strategies to create lower-level offers that nurture leads into higher-ticket sales.

If you’re looking for actionable advice to move the needle in your business, this episode is packed with tips and strategies you can implement right away. Whether you’re new to ClickFunnels or a seasoned entrepreneur, this Q&A session offers valuable lessons to help you take the next step on your journey. Tune in and enjoy!


Special thanks to our sponsors:

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3394 Russell & Myron Golden: 8 Closing Techniques Everyone Needs to Know This episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast is one you don’t want to miss. Myron Golden and I teamed up to deliver an incredible session on "Persuasion Secrets," where we shared our best closing techniques to help you influence and sell like never before. From mastering the psychology of persuasion to implementing strategies that generate massive conversions, this episode is packed with insights that can transform your approach to selling. Whether you’re presenting on stage, hosting webinars, or creating engaging content, these techniques will give you the edge you need. Throughout the episode, Myron and I share actionable insights that have helped us close rooms of thousands and generate millions in revenue. From leveraging social compliance to building trust with the "all my cards on the table" approach, we dive deep into the psychology of influence and how to apply it to your business. Key Highlights: Social Compliance: The art of micro-commitments to guide audience behavior. Trial Closes: Using simple "yes" questions to build rapport and momentum. Overcoming Objections: Strategies for tackling "I can’t afford it" and other resistance points. Emotion, Logic, and Fear: Understanding the three keys to decision-making and how to balance them effectively. Kinda Like Bridges: Simplifying complex ideas to connect with your audience. If you're looking to refine your skills and transform your ability to persuade, this episode is packed with the tools you need to close more deals and make a bigger impact. Dive in and start mastering these techniques today! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Russell & Myron Golden: 8 Closing Techniques Everyone Needs to Know full 3 72 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast is one you don’t want to miss. Myron Golden and I teamed up to deliver an incredible session on "Persuasion Secrets," where we shared our best closing techniques to help you influence and sell like never before. From mastering the psychology of persuasion to implementing strategies that generate massive conversions, this episode is packed with insights that can transform your approach to selling. Whether you’re presenting on stage, hosting webinars, or creating engaging content, these techniques will give you the edge you need. Throughout the episode, Myron and I share actionable insights that have helped us close rooms of thousands and generate millions in revenue. From leveraging social compliance to building trust with the "all my cards on the table" approach, we dive deep into the psychology of influence and how to apply it to your business. Key Highlights: Social Compliance: The art of micro-commitments to guide audience behavior. Trial Closes: Using simple "yes" questions to build rapport and momentum. Overcoming Objections: Strategies for tackling "I can’t afford it" and other resistance points. Emotion, Logic, and Fear: Understanding the three keys to decision-making and how to balance them effectively. Kinda Like Bridges: Simplifying complex ideas to connect with your audience. If you're looking to refine your skills and transform your ability to persuade, this episode is packed with the tools you need to close more deals and make a bigger impact. Dive in and start mastering these techniques today! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast is one you don’t want to miss. Myron Golden and I teamed up to deliver an incredible session on "Persuasion Secrets," where we shared our best closing techniques to help you influence and sell like never before. From mastering the psychology of persuasion to implementing strategies that generate massive conversions, this episode is packed with insights that can transform your approach to selling. Whether you’re presenting on stage, hosting webinars, or creating engaging content, these techniques will give you the edge you need.

Throughout the episode, Myron and I share actionable insights that have helped us close rooms of thousands and generate millions in revenue. From leveraging social compliance to building trust with the "all my cards on the table" approach, we dive deep into the psychology of influence and how to apply it to your business.

Key Highlights:

  • Social Compliance: The art of micro-commitments to guide audience behavior.
  • Trial Closes: Using simple "yes" questions to build rapport and momentum.
  • Overcoming Objections: Strategies for tackling "I can’t afford it" and other resistance points.
  • Emotion, Logic, and Fear: Understanding the three keys to decision-making and how to balance them effectively.
  • Kinda Like Bridges: Simplifying complex ideas to connect with your audience.

If you're looking to refine your skills and transform your ability to persuade, this episode is packed with the tools you need to close more deals and make a bigger impact. Dive in and start mastering these techniques today!


Special thanks to our sponsors:


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2805 Category King: Crafting Your Category & Selling A Grand-Slam Offer On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of the most powerful strategies for entrepreneurs—becoming the "category king" of your market. This concept, inspired by the book Play Bigger, is all about creating and dominating entirely new categories rather than competing in crowded, existing markets. The episode kicks off with a segment from a recent YouTube video where I introduce the idea and discuss its importance, followed by highlights from a presentation I delivered to my Inner Circle mastermind group. We explore what it truly means to be a category king, how to differentiate in red oceans, and why identifying and solving one clear problem for your market is the foundation of category design. These strategies aren't just theory—they've been the cornerstone of ClickFunnels' success, helping us carve out a brand-new market category for sales funnels. Key Highlights: Understanding "Category Kings": Learn why creating a new category is more powerful than competing in existing ones. The Power of a Clear Problem: Discover how to articulate and solve a single core market problem in just ten words or less. Differentiation vs. Competition: Why submarkets and niches often lead to crowded "red oceans" and how to break free. Real-Life Applications: Insights from ClickFunnels' journey, including how we transitioned from a product-focused approach to dominating a category. Whether you’re a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting, this episode provides actionable takeaways to help you reimagine your market strategy. Don’t miss the chance to elevate your business and position yourself as the undeniable leader in your industry! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Category King: Crafting Your Category & Selling A Grand-Slam Offer full 3 71 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of the most powerful strategies for entrepreneurs—becoming the "category king" of your market. This concept, inspired by the book Play Bigger, is all about creating and dominating entirely new categories rather than competing in crowded, existing markets. The episode kicks off with a segment from a recent YouTube video where I introduce the idea and discuss its importance, followed by highlights from a presentation I delivered to my Inner Circle mastermind group. We explore what it truly means to be a category king, how to differentiate in red oceans, and why identifying and solving one clear problem for your market is the foundation of category design. These strategies aren't just theory—they've been the cornerstone of ClickFunnels' success, helping us carve out a brand-new market category for sales funnels. Key Highlights: Understanding "Category Kings": Learn why creating a new category is more powerful than competing in existing ones. The Power of a Clear Problem: Discover how to articulate and solve a single core market problem in just ten words or less. Differentiation vs. Competition: Why submarkets and niches often lead to crowded "red oceans" and how to break free. Real-Life Applications: Insights from ClickFunnels' journey, including how we transitioned from a product-focused approach to dominating a category. Whether you’re a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting, this episode provides actionable takeaways to help you reimagine your market strategy. Don’t miss the chance to elevate your business and position yourself as the undeniable leader in your industry! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of the most powerful strategies for entrepreneurs—becoming the "category king" of your market. This concept, inspired by the book Play Bigger, is all about creating and dominating entirely new categories rather than competing in crowded, existing markets. The episode kicks off with a segment from a recent YouTube video where I introduce the idea and discuss its importance, followed by highlights from a presentation I delivered to my Inner Circle mastermind group.

We explore what it truly means to be a category king, how to differentiate in red oceans, and why identifying and solving one clear problem for your market is the foundation of category design. These strategies aren't just theory—they've been the cornerstone of ClickFunnels' success, helping us carve out a brand-new market category for sales funnels.

Key Highlights:

  • Understanding "Category Kings": Learn why creating a new category is more powerful than competing in existing ones.
  • The Power of a Clear Problem: Discover how to articulate and solve a single core market problem in just ten words or less.
  • Differentiation vs. Competition: Why submarkets and niches often lead to crowded "red oceans" and how to break free.
  • Real-Life Applications: Insights from ClickFunnels' journey, including how we transitioned from a product-focused approach to dominating a category.

Whether you’re a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting, this episode provides actionable takeaways to help you reimagine your market strategy. Don’t miss the chance to elevate your business and position yourself as the undeniable leader in your industry!



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]]> 3695 Day with Dan Kennedy: Waiting For The Radical To Arrive (2 of 2) In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m thrilled to bring you part two of my exclusive interview with the legendary Dan Kennedy, recorded during our unforgettable Day with Dan event at Funnel Hacking Live. As we gear up for FHL 10, the final chapter of this incredible journey, Dan’s wisdom takes center stage again, providing invaluable strategies for entrepreneurs ready to disrupt norms and lead with boldness. This conversation dives deep into the principles of niching, the psychology of pricing, and the art of leapfrogging industry conventions. Dan and I explore the transformative power of targeting specific subcultures and how narrowing your focus can exponentially increase your business impact. From dissecting sales psychology inspired by Zig Ziglar to creating scarcity-driven demand, this episode is packed with actionable insights. Dan also unveils the art of storytelling and positioning, sharing how these timeless techniques have driven his success and can fuel yours. Key Highlights: The Psychology of Pricing: Why the right price is crucial and how to overcome the fear of pricing too high. Riches in Niches: The power of identifying and dominating specific subcultures. The Leapfrog Theory: How to bypass traditional ladders and achieve massive success faster. Scarcity-Driven Selling: Creating irresistible offers that inspire immediate action. Timeless Sales Techniques: Lessons from icons like Zig Ziglar and Houdini. Don’t miss this powerful conclusion to our Day with Dan series, where we uncover the strategies that make radical leaders thrive. Be sure to listen to part one if you haven’t already, and prepare for the insights that can revolutionize your business! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 01 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000 Day with Dan Kennedy: Waiting For The Radical To Arrive (2 of 2) full 3 70 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m thrilled to bring you part two of my exclusive interview with the legendary Dan Kennedy, recorded during our unforgettable Day with Dan event at Funnel Hacking Live. As we gear up for FHL 10, the final chapter of this incredible journey, Dan’s wisdom takes center stage again, providing invaluable strategies for entrepreneurs ready to disrupt norms and lead with boldness. This conversation dives deep into the principles of niching, the psychology of pricing, and the art of leapfrogging industry conventions. Dan and I explore the transformative power of targeting specific subcultures and how narrowing your focus can exponentially increase your business impact. From dissecting sales psychology inspired by Zig Ziglar to creating scarcity-driven demand, this episode is packed with actionable insights. Dan also unveils the art of storytelling and positioning, sharing how these timeless techniques have driven his success and can fuel yours. Key Highlights: The Psychology of Pricing: Why the right price is crucial and how to overcome the fear of pricing too high. Riches in Niches: The power of identifying and dominating specific subcultures. The Leapfrog Theory: How to bypass traditional ladders and achieve massive success faster. Scarcity-Driven Selling: Creating irresistible offers that inspire immediate action. Timeless Sales Techniques: Lessons from icons like Zig Ziglar and Houdini. Don’t miss this powerful conclusion to our Day with Dan series, where we uncover the strategies that make radical leaders thrive. Be sure to listen to part one if you haven’t already, and prepare for the insights that can revolutionize your business! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m thrilled to bring you part two of my exclusive interview with the legendary Dan Kennedy, recorded during our unforgettable Day with Dan event at Funnel Hacking Live. As we gear up for FHL 10, the final chapter of this incredible journey, Dan’s wisdom takes center stage again, providing invaluable strategies for entrepreneurs ready to disrupt norms and lead with boldness. This conversation dives deep into the principles of niching, the psychology of pricing, and the art of leapfrogging industry conventions.

Dan and I explore the transformative power of targeting specific subcultures and how narrowing your focus can exponentially increase your business impact. From dissecting sales psychology inspired by Zig Ziglar to creating scarcity-driven demand, this episode is packed with actionable insights. Dan also unveils the art of storytelling and positioning, sharing how these timeless techniques have driven his success and can fuel yours.

Key Highlights:

  • The Psychology of Pricing: Why the right price is crucial and how to overcome the fear of pricing too high.
  • Riches in Niches: The power of identifying and dominating specific subcultures.
  • The Leapfrog Theory: How to bypass traditional ladders and achieve massive success faster.
  • Scarcity-Driven Selling: Creating irresistible offers that inspire immediate action.
  • Timeless Sales Techniques: Lessons from icons like Zig Ziglar and Houdini.

Don’t miss this powerful conclusion to our Day with Dan series, where we uncover the strategies that make radical leaders thrive. Be sure to listen to part one if you haven’t already, and prepare for the insights that can revolutionize your business!



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]]> 3483 Day with Dan Kennedy: Waiting For The Radical To Arrive (1 of 2) In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m taking you back to one of my most transformative conversations with Dan Kennedy during our last VIP Day event. As we approach the final Funnel Hacking Live, this episode is part one of a special two-part series revisiting that iconic day. Dan’s insights during this interview inspired this year’s Funnel Hacking Live theme: "Waiting for the Radical to Arrive." Together, we discuss the elements of success, the courage to challenge industry norms, and the power of standing out as a true innovator. Throughout this conversation, Dan and I delve into timeless lessons for entrepreneurs and marketers. From identifying and fixing broken systems to understanding the psychology of success, we uncover strategies that can elevate your business. Dan shares his expertise on how leaders who dare to break away from dogma become magnetic forces, attracting those seeking real change. This episode provides not just insights but also a glimpse into the brilliance you can expect at Funnel Hacking Live’s exclusive pre-event, Day With Dan. Key Highlights: The Success System That Never Fails: How to create systems that work and why fixing broken ones is critical. Questioning the Norm: The power of challenging established dogmas and finding new paths to success. Embracing the Radical Role: How stepping up as the radical inspires loyalty and trust among your audience. Lessons from Legends: The principles Dan learned from figures like Earl Nightingale and W. Clement Stone. Transforming Systems: Practical examples of turning struggling businesses into thriving operations. This two-part series is packed with invaluable advice for entrepreneurs ready to disrupt the norm and become the radical their audience is waiting for. Make sure to listen and prepare for part two, where we dive even deeper into Dan’s transformative strategies! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Day with Dan Kennedy: Waiting For The Radical To Arrive (1 of 2) full 3 69 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m taking you back to one of my most transformative conversations with Dan Kennedy during our last VIP Day event. As we approach the final Funnel Hacking Live, this episode is part one of a special two-part series revisiting that iconic day. Dan’s insights during this interview inspired this year’s Funnel Hacking Live theme: "Waiting for the Radical to Arrive." Together, we discuss the elements of success, the courage to challenge industry norms, and the power of standing out as a true innovator. Throughout this conversation, Dan and I delve into timeless lessons for entrepreneurs and marketers. From identifying and fixing broken systems to understanding the psychology of success, we uncover strategies that can elevate your business. Dan shares his expertise on how leaders who dare to break away from dogma become magnetic forces, attracting those seeking real change. This episode provides not just insights but also a glimpse into the brilliance you can expect at Funnel Hacking Live’s exclusive pre-event, Day With Dan. Key Highlights: The Success System That Never Fails: How to create systems that work and why fixing broken ones is critical. Questioning the Norm: The power of challenging established dogmas and finding new paths to success. Embracing the Radical Role: How stepping up as the radical inspires loyalty and trust among your audience. Lessons from Legends: The principles Dan learned from figures like Earl Nightingale and W. Clement Stone. Transforming Systems: Practical examples of turning struggling businesses into thriving operations. This two-part series is packed with invaluable advice for entrepreneurs ready to disrupt the norm and become the radical their audience is waiting for. Make sure to listen and prepare for part two, where we dive even deeper into Dan’s transformative strategies! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m taking you back to one of my most transformative conversations with Dan Kennedy during our last VIP Day event. As we approach the final Funnel Hacking Live, this episode is part one of a special two-part series revisiting that iconic day. Dan’s insights during this interview inspired this year’s Funnel Hacking Live theme: "Waiting for the Radical to Arrive." Together, we discuss the elements of success, the courage to challenge industry norms, and the power of standing out as a true innovator.

Throughout this conversation, Dan and I delve into timeless lessons for entrepreneurs and marketers. From identifying and fixing broken systems to understanding the psychology of success, we uncover strategies that can elevate your business. Dan shares his expertise on how leaders who dare to break away from dogma become magnetic forces, attracting those seeking real change. This episode provides not just insights but also a glimpse into the brilliance you can expect at Funnel Hacking Live’s exclusive pre-event, Day With Dan.

Key Highlights:

  • The Success System That Never Fails: How to create systems that work and why fixing broken ones is critical.
  • Questioning the Norm: The power of challenging established dogmas and finding new paths to success.
  • Embracing the Radical Role: How stepping up as the radical inspires loyalty and trust among your audience.
  • Lessons from Legends: The principles Dan learned from figures like Earl Nightingale and W. Clement Stone.
  • Transforming Systems: Practical examples of turning struggling businesses into thriving operations.

This two-part series is packed with invaluable advice for entrepreneurs ready to disrupt the norm and become the radical their audience is waiting for. Make sure to listen and prepare for part two, where we dive even deeper into Dan’s transformative strategies!

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]]> 3733 Overcoming Obstacles in Any Niche Market: Q&A from Selling Online! Welcome back to the final segment of our big Selling Online VIP Q&A event, and the diversity of questions truly showcased the universal power of the frameworks we teach. From scaling niche businesses to overcoming challenges in lead generation, this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast is packed with insights for every level of entrepreneur. Whether you're running a wedding entertainment agency, launching a new product, or navigating the complexities of MLM, the strategies we discuss can help you break through. During this session, we dove deep into personalized solutions for various industries. I shared actionable advice on everything from optimizing ad costs to mastering evergreen webinars that convert. We also explored how storytelling and framework-based pitches can transform how you approach your audience and create lasting impact. Key Highlights: Webinar Strategies: Learn how to create effective evergreen webinars for high-ticket offers and time-sensitive markets. Content to Conversions: Discover how to turn short-lived content into qualified leads with minimal nurturing. Overcoming False Beliefs: Find out how to handle skepticism and build trust in industries like health and wellness. Scaling with Systems: See how leveraging frameworks can simplify growth for solopreneurs and large teams alike. Focus on Your Core: Understand why doubling down on what works can accelerate your results. Whether you're looking to refine your strategy or take your business to the next level, this episode is packed with inspiration and proven methods. Tune in and start applying these secrets to your entrepreneurial journey today! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Overcoming Obstacles in Any Niche Market: Q&A from Selling Online! full 3 68 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome back to the final segment of our big Selling Online VIP Q&A event, and the diversity of questions truly showcased the universal power of the frameworks we teach. From scaling niche businesses to overcoming challenges in lead generation, this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast is packed with insights for every level of entrepreneur. Whether you're running a wedding entertainment agency, launching a new product, or navigating the complexities of MLM, the strategies we discuss can help you break through. During this session, we dove deep into personalized solutions for various industries. I shared actionable advice on everything from optimizing ad costs to mastering evergreen webinars that convert. We also explored how storytelling and framework-based pitches can transform how you approach your audience and create lasting impact. Key Highlights: Webinar Strategies: Learn how to create effective evergreen webinars for high-ticket offers and time-sensitive markets. Content to Conversions: Discover how to turn short-lived content into qualified leads with minimal nurturing. Overcoming False Beliefs: Find out how to handle skepticism and build trust in industries like health and wellness. Scaling with Systems: See how leveraging frameworks can simplify growth for solopreneurs and large teams alike. Focus on Your Core: Understand why doubling down on what works can accelerate your results. Whether you're looking to refine your strategy or take your business to the next level, this episode is packed with inspiration and proven methods. Tune in and start applying these secrets to your entrepreneurial journey today! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome back to the final segment of our big Selling Online VIP Q&A event, and the diversity of questions truly showcased the universal power of the frameworks we teach. From scaling niche businesses to overcoming challenges in lead generation, this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast is packed with insights for every level of entrepreneur. Whether you're running a wedding entertainment agency, launching a new product, or navigating the complexities of MLM, the strategies we discuss can help you break through.

During this session, we dove deep into personalized solutions for various industries. I shared actionable advice on everything from optimizing ad costs to mastering evergreen webinars that convert. We also explored how storytelling and framework-based pitches can transform how you approach your audience and create lasting impact.

Key Highlights:

  • Webinar Strategies: Learn how to create effective evergreen webinars for high-ticket offers and time-sensitive markets.
  • Content to Conversions: Discover how to turn short-lived content into qualified leads with minimal nurturing.
  • Overcoming False Beliefs: Find out how to handle skepticism and build trust in industries like health and wellness.
  • Scaling with Systems: See how leveraging frameworks can simplify growth for solopreneurs and large teams alike.
  • Focus on Your Core: Understand why doubling down on what works can accelerate your results.

Whether you're looking to refine your strategy or take your business to the next level, this episode is packed with inspiration and proven methods. Tune in and start applying these secrets to your entrepreneurial journey today!


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]]> 3810 Pricing, Niches, and Strategies to Skyrocket Your Success: Q&A from Selling Online! Welcome to another segment of our lively “Selling Online” Q&A session, where we dive into more of the most pressing questions from our incredible community. It was an energetic follow-up to our previous VIP session, packed with actionable strategies and personal stories that can help take your business to the next level. From tackling Dream 100 campaigns to leveraging unique marketing strategies, this episode is all about turning big ideas into real-world results. We covered a variety of intriguing topics, ranging from personalizing outreach for high-impact connections to the art of leveraging live and recorded webinars to scale your offers effectively. Whether you’re trying to master cold outreach, refine your niche, or explore new pricing strategies, there’s something here for everyone. Key Highlights: Dream 100 Strategies: Learn how to make meaningful connections and follow up effectively using personalized video messages. Webinar Magic: Discover the power of live and pre-recorded webinars and which strategy might work best for your product or audience. Data Insights: Tips on leveraging data appending services to deepen your understanding of potential leads. Pricing Strategy: Insights on how price points affect conversions and when to go niche versus staying broad. Personal Stories and Lessons: Real examples of how strategy, preparation, and passion intersect to drive success. If you’re ready to refine your strategies, strengthen your connections, and push your business forward, this episode has you covered. Don’t miss the chance to tune in and gather some game-changing insights! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Pricing, Niches, and Strategies to Skyrocket Your Success: Q&A from Selling Online! full 3 65 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to another segment of our lively “Selling Online” Q&A session, where we dive into more of the most pressing questions from our incredible community. It was an energetic follow-up to our previous VIP session, packed with actionable strategies and personal stories that can help take your business to the next level. From tackling Dream 100 campaigns to leveraging unique marketing strategies, this episode is all about turning big ideas into real-world results. We covered a variety of intriguing topics, ranging from personalizing outreach for high-impact connections to the art of leveraging live and recorded webinars to scale your offers effectively. Whether you’re trying to master cold outreach, refine your niche, or explore new pricing strategies, there’s something here for everyone. Key Highlights: Dream 100 Strategies: Learn how to make meaningful connections and follow up effectively using personalized video messages. Webinar Magic: Discover the power of live and pre-recorded webinars and which strategy might work best for your product or audience. Data Insights: Tips on leveraging data appending services to deepen your understanding of potential leads. Pricing Strategy: Insights on how price points affect conversions and when to go niche versus staying broad. Personal Stories and Lessons: Real examples of how strategy, preparation, and passion intersect to drive success. If you’re ready to refine your strategies, strengthen your connections, and push your business forward, this episode has you covered. Don’t miss the chance to tune in and gather some game-changing insights! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome to another segment of our lively “Selling Online” Q&A session, where we dive into more of the most pressing questions from our incredible community. It was an energetic follow-up to our previous VIP session, packed with actionable strategies and personal stories that can help take your business to the next level. From tackling Dream 100 campaigns to leveraging unique marketing strategies, this episode is all about turning big ideas into real-world results.

We covered a variety of intriguing topics, ranging from personalizing outreach for high-impact connections to the art of leveraging live and recorded webinars to scale your offers effectively. Whether you’re trying to master cold outreach, refine your niche, or explore new pricing strategies, there’s something here for everyone.

Key Highlights:

  • Dream 100 Strategies: Learn how to make meaningful connections and follow up effectively using personalized video messages.
  • Webinar Magic: Discover the power of live and pre-recorded webinars and which strategy might work best for your product or audience.
  • Data Insights: Tips on leveraging data appending services to deepen your understanding of potential leads.
  • Pricing Strategy: Insights on how price points affect conversions and when to go niche versus staying broad.
  • Personal Stories and Lessons: Real examples of how strategy, preparation, and passion intersect to drive success.

If you’re ready to refine your strategies, strengthen your connections, and push your business forward, this episode has you covered. Don’t miss the chance to tune in and gather some game-changing insights!


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]]> 3232 Building Funnels, Crafting Offers, and Winning Clients: More Q&A from Selling Online! Welcome back to the Q&A session I recently had with members of our vibrant Selling Online community. These sessions are always a highlight for me because they showcase the incredible diversity of challenges and opportunities faced by entrepreneurs across various industries. In this episode, we tackled everything from scaling strategies to creating irresistible offers and building long-term engagement with your audience. One key takeaway from this part of the discussion was the power of personalized and innovative marketing tactics. We explored how sending memorable "shock and awe" packages, implementing a Dream 100 campaign, and leveraging direct mail combined with digital retargeting can help you stand out in crowded markets. These strategies are game-changers for businesses looking to build relationships with high-value clients. Here are some of the standout questions and insights from this episode: How do I generate traffic and connect with decision-makers in corporate settings? What’s the best way to structure a licensing program with recurring revenue? How do I create compelling offers for group coaching or membership programs? What steps can I take to improve webinar conversions and increase lead quality? Whether you're fine-tuning your offers, scaling a business, or building a community of raving fans, this episode is packed with actionable advice. Tune in to learn how to refine your marketing and sales strategies to unlock exponential growth! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Building Funnels, Crafting Offers, and Winning Clients: More Q&A from Selling Online! full 3 66 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome back to the Q&A session I recently had with members of our vibrant Selling Online community. These sessions are always a highlight for me because they showcase the incredible diversity of challenges and opportunities faced by entrepreneurs across various industries. In this episode, we tackled everything from scaling strategies to creating irresistible offers and building long-term engagement with your audience. One key takeaway from this part of the discussion was the power of personalized and innovative marketing tactics. We explored how sending memorable "shock and awe" packages, implementing a Dream 100 campaign, and leveraging direct mail combined with digital retargeting can help you stand out in crowded markets. These strategies are game-changers for businesses looking to build relationships with high-value clients. Here are some of the standout questions and insights from this episode: How do I generate traffic and connect with decision-makers in corporate settings? What’s the best way to structure a licensing program with recurring revenue? How do I create compelling offers for group coaching or membership programs? What steps can I take to improve webinar conversions and increase lead quality? Whether you're fine-tuning your offers, scaling a business, or building a community of raving fans, this episode is packed with actionable advice. Tune in to learn how to refine your marketing and sales strategies to unlock exponential growth! Special thanks to our sponsors: Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/marketingsecrets to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome back to the Q&A session I recently had with members of our vibrant Selling Online community. These sessions are always a highlight for me because they showcase the incredible diversity of challenges and opportunities faced by entrepreneurs across various industries. In this episode, we tackled everything from scaling strategies to creating irresistible offers and building long-term engagement with your audience.

One key takeaway from this part of the discussion was the power of personalized and innovative marketing tactics. We explored how sending memorable "shock and awe" packages, implementing a Dream 100 campaign, and leveraging direct mail combined with digital retargeting can help you stand out in crowded markets. These strategies are game-changers for businesses looking to build relationships with high-value clients.

Here are some of the standout questions and insights from this episode:

  • How do I generate traffic and connect with decision-makers in corporate settings?
  • What’s the best way to structure a licensing program with recurring revenue?
  • How do I create compelling offers for group coaching or membership programs?
  • What steps can I take to improve webinar conversions and increase lead quality?

Whether you're fine-tuning your offers, scaling a business, or building a community of raving fans, this episode is packed with actionable advice. Tune in to learn how to refine your marketing and sales strategies to unlock exponential growth!


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]]> 3513 Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session! This week on the Marketing Secrets podcast, I hosted another exciting Q&A session packed with game-changing strategies for entrepreneurs, business owners, and marketers looking to level up their game. These sessions are where the magic happens as I dive deep into your questions and challenges, offering tailored advice and actionable solutions. We tackled a variety of challenges this time, from attracting high-caliber clients to fine-tuning complex offers and crafting the perfect pitch for niche audiences. I shared insights on identifying unique frameworks that differentiate your business, leveraging storytelling to sell high-ticket offers, and structuring events that drive value and engagement. For those wrestling with market segmentation or feeling overwhelmed by broad opportunities, we uncovered the power of niching down and leading with what truly lights you up. Key Highlights: Attracting Premium Clients: Learn how to create offers and events that draw top-tier audiences. Simplifying Complex Offers: Discover strategies to streamline your pitch for clarity and impact. Storytelling for Sales: Explore how to use story-selling to build trust and close high-ticket deals. Overcoming Overwhelm: Find out how to niche down and focus on what drives passion and long-term success. Monetizing Expertise: Get tips on structuring premium offers that align with your unique skillset and market demand. Whether you're looking for inspiration, tactical advice, or both, this episode has something for everyone ready to take their business to the next level. Tune in now and transform the way you approach your goals! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session! full 3 65 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This week on the Marketing Secrets podcast, I hosted another exciting Q&A session packed with game-changing strategies for entrepreneurs, business owners, and marketers looking to level up their game. These sessions are where the magic happens as I dive deep into your questions and challenges, offering tailored advice and actionable solutions. We tackled a variety of challenges this time, from attracting high-caliber clients to fine-tuning complex offers and crafting the perfect pitch for niche audiences. I shared insights on identifying unique frameworks that differentiate your business, leveraging storytelling to sell high-ticket offers, and structuring events that drive value and engagement. For those wrestling with market segmentation or feeling overwhelmed by broad opportunities, we uncovered the power of niching down and leading with what truly lights you up. Key Highlights: Attracting Premium Clients: Learn how to create offers and events that draw top-tier audiences. Simplifying Complex Offers: Discover strategies to streamline your pitch for clarity and impact. Storytelling for Sales: Explore how to use story-selling to build trust and close high-ticket deals. Overcoming Overwhelm: Find out how to niche down and focus on what drives passion and long-term success. Monetizing Expertise: Get tips on structuring premium offers that align with your unique skillset and market demand. Whether you're looking for inspiration, tactical advice, or both, this episode has something for everyone ready to take their business to the next level. Tune in now and transform the way you approach your goals! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This week on the Marketing Secrets podcast, I hosted another exciting Q&A session packed with game-changing strategies for entrepreneurs, business owners, and marketers looking to level up their game. These sessions are where the magic happens as I dive deep into your questions and challenges, offering tailored advice and actionable solutions.

We tackled a variety of challenges this time, from attracting high-caliber clients to fine-tuning complex offers and crafting the perfect pitch for niche audiences. I shared insights on identifying unique frameworks that differentiate your business, leveraging storytelling to sell high-ticket offers, and structuring events that drive value and engagement. For those wrestling with market segmentation or feeling overwhelmed by broad opportunities, we uncovered the power of niching down and leading with what truly lights you up.

Key Highlights:

  • Attracting Premium Clients: Learn how to create offers and events that draw top-tier audiences.
  • Simplifying Complex Offers: Discover strategies to streamline your pitch for clarity and impact.
  • Storytelling for Sales: Explore how to use story-selling to build trust and close high-ticket deals.
  • Overcoming Overwhelm: Find out how to niche down and focus on what drives passion and long-term success.
  • Monetizing Expertise: Get tips on structuring premium offers that align with your unique skillset and market demand.

Whether you're looking for inspiration, tactical advice, or both, this episode has something for everyone ready to take their business to the next level. Tune in now and transform the way you approach your goals!

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

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]]> 3349 Navigating Health, Hustle, and Happiness: Aggie Lal’s Entrepreneurial Story Recently, I had the pleasure of interviewing Aggie Lal, a truly inspiring entrepreneur with an incredible story. Aggie’s journey took her from being a travel influencer to a bestselling author and biohacker, all while building a thriving business using ClickFunnels. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Aggie shares how she turned life’s challenges into opportunities, crafting a unique path that blends health, biohacking, and entrepreneurial spirit. We dive into her fascinating story, starting with a year-long Pacific sailing adventure fraught with near-death experiences, which set the stage for her transformation. Aggie details how her career evolved from Instagram influencer to health advocate after facing personal health struggles. Her bestselling book, Biohacking Like a Woman, captures these lessons, showing others how to align health strategies with their unique cycles. Whether it’s sharing her approach to challenges or building a lifestyle app, Aggie reveals how she keeps her business nimble and impactful. Key Highlights: From Sea to Strategy: How Aggie's epic sailing trip and early influencer career laid the groundwork for her entrepreneurial journey. Biohacking for Women: Unique insights on health, cycles, and wellness drawn from her bestselling book. Challenges That Convert: The structure and success of her 21-day health and fitness challenges. Scaling Sustainably: Growing a business organically without heavy reliance on paid ads. Tune in for an episode packed with inspiring takeaways, actionable strategies, and a peek behind the scenes of a truly unconventional entrepreneur! Learn more about Aggie here: @aggie And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Navigating Health, Hustle, and Happiness: Aggie Lal’s Entrepreneurial Story full 3 64 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently, I had the pleasure of interviewing Aggie Lal, a truly inspiring entrepreneur with an incredible story. Aggie’s journey took her from being a travel influencer to a bestselling author and biohacker, all while building a thriving business using ClickFunnels. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Aggie shares how she turned life’s challenges into opportunities, crafting a unique path that blends health, biohacking, and entrepreneurial spirit. We dive into her fascinating story, starting with a year-long Pacific sailing adventure fraught with near-death experiences, which set the stage for her transformation. Aggie details how her career evolved from Instagram influencer to health advocate after facing personal health struggles. Her bestselling book, Biohacking Like a Woman, captures these lessons, showing others how to align health strategies with their unique cycles. Whether it’s sharing her approach to challenges or building a lifestyle app, Aggie reveals how she keeps her business nimble and impactful. Key Highlights: From Sea to Strategy: How Aggie's epic sailing trip and early influencer career laid the groundwork for her entrepreneurial journey. Biohacking for Women: Unique insights on health, cycles, and wellness drawn from her bestselling book. Challenges That Convert: The structure and success of her 21-day health and fitness challenges. Scaling Sustainably: Growing a business organically without heavy reliance on paid ads. Tune in for an episode packed with inspiring takeaways, actionable strategies, and a peek behind the scenes of a truly unconventional entrepreneur! Learn more about Aggie here: @aggie And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently, I had the pleasure of interviewing Aggie Lal, a truly inspiring entrepreneur with an incredible story. Aggie’s journey took her from being a travel influencer to a bestselling author and biohacker, all while building a thriving business using ClickFunnels. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Aggie shares how she turned life’s challenges into opportunities, crafting a unique path that blends health, biohacking, and entrepreneurial spirit.

We dive into her fascinating story, starting with a year-long Pacific sailing adventure fraught with near-death experiences, which set the stage for her transformation. Aggie details how her career evolved from Instagram influencer to health advocate after facing personal health struggles. Her bestselling book, Biohacking Like a Woman, captures these lessons, showing others how to align health strategies with their unique cycles. Whether it’s sharing her approach to challenges or building a lifestyle app, Aggie reveals how she keeps her business nimble and impactful.

Key Highlights:

  • From Sea to Strategy: How Aggie's epic sailing trip and early influencer career laid the groundwork for her entrepreneurial journey.
  • Biohacking for Women: Unique insights on health, cycles, and wellness drawn from her bestselling book.
  • Challenges That Convert: The structure and success of her 21-day health and fitness challenges.
  • Scaling Sustainably: Growing a business organically without heavy reliance on paid ads.

Tune in for an episode packed with inspiring takeaways, actionable strategies, and a peek behind the scenes of a truly unconventional entrepreneur!

Learn more about Aggie here: @aggie

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

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]]> 3338 Mastering Webinars, Pricing, and VSL Funnels: Q&A with Russell Brunson I had the opportunity to host a Q&A session with members of our One Funnel Away community, where we tackled challenges, refined strategies, and explored creative solutions for their funnels and business growth. This episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast dives into real-life scenarios and the hands-on advice that can take your marketing efforts to the next level. From overcoming launch delays to optimizing webinar registration pages, we covered a range of topics that are critical for entrepreneurs and marketers striving to make an impact. Listening to these questions and the advice I shared will provide actionable insights you can implement immediately in your business. Key Highlights: Overcoming Funnel Delays: Strategies to create noise and drive traffic to time-sensitive challenges with limited time. Crafting High-Converting Registration Pages: Learn how specificity and curiosity drive opt-ins for webinars and challenges. Pricing for the Right Audience: Why raising prices can attract higher-quality leads and build long-term success. Simplifying Your Funnel: Tips on leveraging simple yet effective VSL funnels to drive conversions. Refining Offers: How to focus on one specific pain point to avoid overwhelming potential customers. Whether you're launching a new funnel, refining your messaging, or seeking inspiration for your next move, this episode is packed with actionable advice. Tune in, and let's build something amazing together! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Mastering Webinars, Pricing, and VSL Funnels: Q&A with Russell Brunson full 3 63 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I had the opportunity to host a Q&A session with members of our One Funnel Away community, where we tackled challenges, refined strategies, and explored creative solutions for their funnels and business growth. This episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast dives into real-life scenarios and the hands-on advice that can take your marketing efforts to the next level. From overcoming launch delays to optimizing webinar registration pages, we covered a range of topics that are critical for entrepreneurs and marketers striving to make an impact. Listening to these questions and the advice I shared will provide actionable insights you can implement immediately in your business. Key Highlights: Overcoming Funnel Delays: Strategies to create noise and drive traffic to time-sensitive challenges with limited time. Crafting High-Converting Registration Pages: Learn how specificity and curiosity drive opt-ins for webinars and challenges. Pricing for the Right Audience: Why raising prices can attract higher-quality leads and build long-term success. Simplifying Your Funnel: Tips on leveraging simple yet effective VSL funnels to drive conversions. Refining Offers: How to focus on one specific pain point to avoid overwhelming potential customers. Whether you're launching a new funnel, refining your messaging, or seeking inspiration for your next move, this episode is packed with actionable advice. Tune in, and let's build something amazing together! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I had the opportunity to host a Q&A session with members of our One Funnel Away community, where we tackled challenges, refined strategies, and explored creative solutions for their funnels and business growth. This episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast dives into real-life scenarios and the hands-on advice that can take your marketing efforts to the next level.

From overcoming launch delays to optimizing webinar registration pages, we covered a range of topics that are critical for entrepreneurs and marketers striving to make an impact. Listening to these questions and the advice I shared will provide actionable insights you can implement immediately in your business.

Key Highlights:

  • Overcoming Funnel Delays: Strategies to create noise and drive traffic to time-sensitive challenges with limited time.
  • Crafting High-Converting Registration Pages: Learn how specificity and curiosity drive opt-ins for webinars and challenges.
  • Pricing for the Right Audience: Why raising prices can attract higher-quality leads and build long-term success.
  • Simplifying Your Funnel: Tips on leveraging simple yet effective VSL funnels to drive conversions.
  • Refining Offers: How to focus on one specific pain point to avoid overwhelming potential customers.

Whether you're launching a new funnel, refining your messaging, or seeking inspiration for your next move, this episode is packed with actionable advice. Tune in, and let's build something amazing together!

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3830 From Wall Street to Wealth Creation: The Inspiring Journey of the Wealth Twins In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had an inspiring conversation with the Wealth Twins, the recipients of our first-ever Prime Mover Award. This award is given to entrepreneurs who achieve $10,000 in revenue using a one-to-many presentation—a milestone the Wealth Twins reached by overcoming challenges, refining their approach, and staying consistent. In this episode, they share their incredible journey from working on Wall Street to teaching financial literacy and building a business that empowers others to invest confidently and achieve financial independence. We dive into the hurdles they faced while creating their first offers and presentations, including their early struggles with webinars, technical difficulties, and learning the art of selling online. What makes their story truly remarkable is their relentless focus on iterating and improving each step of the way. They explain how they transitioned from selling a standalone course to crafting a complete offer that includes tools, tutorials, and live coaching, ensuring their customers have everything they need to succeed. Key Highlights: Lessons from Failure: How their first webinar flopped and the tweaks they made to start making consistent sales. Building a Better Offer: Transitioning from selling a course to creating a comprehensive offer with coaching and community support. Understanding Your Audience: Using feedback from customers and non-buyers to refine their presentation and address objections. Consistency Pays Off: The importance of showing up weekly and making incremental improvements to achieve big results. Empowering Through Financial Literacy: How they help their audience overcome fear and confusion around investing. Whether you're launching your first webinar or looking to take your offers to the next level, this episode is packed with insights, inspiration, and practical advice. Tune in and get ready to learn from the Wealth Twins' journey to success! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000 From Wall Street to Wealth Creation: The Inspiring Journey of the Wealth Twins full 3 62 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had an inspiring conversation with the Wealth Twins, the recipients of our first-ever Prime Mover Award. This award is given to entrepreneurs who achieve $10,000 in revenue using a one-to-many presentation—a milestone the Wealth Twins reached by overcoming challenges, refining their approach, and staying consistent. In this episode, they share their incredible journey from working on Wall Street to teaching financial literacy and building a business that empowers others to invest confidently and achieve financial independence. We dive into the hurdles they faced while creating their first offers and presentations, including their early struggles with webinars, technical difficulties, and learning the art of selling online. What makes their story truly remarkable is their relentless focus on iterating and improving each step of the way. They explain how they transitioned from selling a standalone course to crafting a complete offer that includes tools, tutorials, and live coaching, ensuring their customers have everything they need to succeed. Key Highlights: Lessons from Failure: How their first webinar flopped and the tweaks they made to start making consistent sales. Building a Better Offer: Transitioning from selling a course to creating a comprehensive offer with coaching and community support. Understanding Your Audience: Using feedback from customers and non-buyers to refine their presentation and address objections. Consistency Pays Off: The importance of showing up weekly and making incremental improvements to achieve big results. Empowering Through Financial Literacy: How they help their audience overcome fear and confusion around investing. Whether you're launching your first webinar or looking to take your offers to the next level, this episode is packed with insights, inspiration, and practical advice. Tune in and get ready to learn from the Wealth Twins' journey to success! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had an inspiring conversation with the Wealth Twins, the recipients of our first-ever Prime Mover Award. This award is given to entrepreneurs who achieve $10,000 in revenue using a one-to-many presentation—a milestone the Wealth Twins reached by overcoming challenges, refining their approach, and staying consistent. In this episode, they share their incredible journey from working on Wall Street to teaching financial literacy and building a business that empowers others to invest confidently and achieve financial independence.

We dive into the hurdles they faced while creating their first offers and presentations, including their early struggles with webinars, technical difficulties, and learning the art of selling online. What makes their story truly remarkable is their relentless focus on iterating and improving each step of the way. They explain how they transitioned from selling a standalone course to crafting a complete offer that includes tools, tutorials, and live coaching, ensuring their customers have everything they need to succeed.

Key Highlights:

  • Lessons from Failure: How their first webinar flopped and the tweaks they made to start making consistent sales.
  • Building a Better Offer: Transitioning from selling a course to creating a comprehensive offer with coaching and community support.
  • Understanding Your Audience: Using feedback from customers and non-buyers to refine their presentation and address objections.
  • Consistency Pays Off: The importance of showing up weekly and making incremental improvements to achieve big results.
  • Empowering Through Financial Literacy: How they help their audience overcome fear and confusion around investing.

Whether you're launching your first webinar or looking to take your offers to the next level, this episode is packed with insights, inspiration, and practical advice. Tune in and get ready to learn from the Wealth Twins' journey to success!

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2600 From Cigars to Continuity: Simon Devlin’s Secrets to Building Customer Loyalty Recently, I had the privilege of sitting down with Simon Devlin, a brilliant entrepreneur from Australia who’s mastered the art of blending offline and online business strategies. Simon runs a unique cigar business that combines the exclusivity of private clubs with powerful marketing principles. What makes Simon’s journey remarkable is how he has applied continuity, ascension models, and direct-response marketing to transform a traditional retail business into a thriving membership-based community. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, we explored how Simon started with a small cigar shop and grew it into a luxurious experience with tiered memberships, private lounges, and engaging customer interactions. From his early inspiration through Dan Kennedy’s teachings to building a systemized return path, Simon shares strategies that any entrepreneur can adapt—whether their business is online or offline. His approach to creating an unforgettable customer experience while driving retention and loyalty offers lessons that are both practical and profound. Key Highlights: Building a “return path” to ensure customers keep coming back, even in traditional retail. Transitioning from offering products to creating membership offers with unique perks. The power of hiring for the “service gene” to deliver exceptional customer experiences. How a cigar business grew continuity with engaging ascension models, from lockers to luxury experiences. Applying these offline strategies to online businesses, including creating personalized “lifetime value calls.” This episode is packed with actionable advice for anyone looking to build a lasting connection with their audience and drive consistent revenue. Tune in to discover how you can apply these principles to your own business and take your customer relationships to the next level! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000 From Cigars to Continuity: Simon Devlin’s Secrets to Building Customer Loyalty full 3 61 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently, I had the privilege of sitting down with Simon Devlin, a brilliant entrepreneur from Australia who’s mastered the art of blending offline and online business strategies. Simon runs a unique cigar business that combines the exclusivity of private clubs with powerful marketing principles. What makes Simon’s journey remarkable is how he has applied continuity, ascension models, and direct-response marketing to transform a traditional retail business into a thriving membership-based community. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, we explored how Simon started with a small cigar shop and grew it into a luxurious experience with tiered memberships, private lounges, and engaging customer interactions. From his early inspiration through Dan Kennedy’s teachings to building a systemized return path, Simon shares strategies that any entrepreneur can adapt—whether their business is online or offline. His approach to creating an unforgettable customer experience while driving retention and loyalty offers lessons that are both practical and profound. Key Highlights: Building a “return path” to ensure customers keep coming back, even in traditional retail. Transitioning from offering products to creating membership offers with unique perks. The power of hiring for the “service gene” to deliver exceptional customer experiences. How a cigar business grew continuity with engaging ascension models, from lockers to luxury experiences. Applying these offline strategies to online businesses, including creating personalized “lifetime value calls.” This episode is packed with actionable advice for anyone looking to build a lasting connection with their audience and drive consistent revenue. Tune in to discover how you can apply these principles to your own business and take your customer relationships to the next level! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently, I had the privilege of sitting down with Simon Devlin, a brilliant entrepreneur from Australia who’s mastered the art of blending offline and online business strategies. Simon runs a unique cigar business that combines the exclusivity of private clubs with powerful marketing principles. What makes Simon’s journey remarkable is how he has applied continuity, ascension models, and direct-response marketing to transform a traditional retail business into a thriving membership-based community.

In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, we explored how Simon started with a small cigar shop and grew it into a luxurious experience with tiered memberships, private lounges, and engaging customer interactions. From his early inspiration through Dan Kennedy’s teachings to building a systemized return path, Simon shares strategies that any entrepreneur can adapt—whether their business is online or offline. His approach to creating an unforgettable customer experience while driving retention and loyalty offers lessons that are both practical and profound.

Key Highlights:

  • Building a “return path” to ensure customers keep coming back, even in traditional retail.
  • Transitioning from offering products to creating membership offers with unique perks.
  • The power of hiring for the “service gene” to deliver exceptional customer experiences.
  • How a cigar business grew continuity with engaging ascension models, from lockers to luxury experiences.
  • Applying these offline strategies to online businesses, including creating personalized “lifetime value calls.”

This episode is packed with actionable advice for anyone looking to build a lasting connection with their audience and drive consistent revenue. Tune in to discover how you can apply these principles to your own business and take your customer relationships to the next level!

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3335 Winning the War of Art: Overcoming Resistance with Steven Pressfield On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive deep into the theme of resistance with insights drawn from one of my all-time favorite books, The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Resistance is that unseen force that stops us from doing what we’re meant to do—whether it’s starting a business, creating content, or pursuing personal growth. In this two-part episode, you’ll hear the highlights from my YouTube video about overcoming resistance and then a special hour-long interview I had with Steven Pressfield himself. It’s a must-listen for anyone looking to win the daily battle against their internal obstacles. Steven and I explore how resistance manifests in our lives, its deceptive lies, and the strategies to defeat it. We also discuss Steven’s personal journey, his groundbreaking works, and his profound insights into creative endeavors. This conversation will resonate not just with writers and artists, but with entrepreneurs, athletes, and anyone striving to live their calling. Key Highlights: Exposing Resistance: Recognize resistance as the enemy holding you back and learn how to map out its attacks in your daily life. The Lies We Believe: Uncover resistance’s tactics, like procrastination, shadow callings, and settling for temporary pleasures. The Bigger the Dream, the Bigger the Resistance: Why significant goals attract greater obstacles—and why that’s a sign you’re on the right track. Turning Pro: Learn how shifting your mindset from amateur to professional is the antidote to overcoming resistance. Steven’s Wisdom: Hear Steven’s stories, from his early struggles to finding his calling, and how he channels creativity through disciplined action. This episode is packed with transformative advice for conquering resistance and stepping into your highest potential. Tune in, take notes, and let’s beat resistance together! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Winning the War of Art: Overcoming Resistance with Steven Pressfield full 3 60 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive deep into the theme of resistance with insights drawn from one of my all-time favorite books, The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Resistance is that unseen force that stops us from doing what we’re meant to do—whether it’s starting a business, creating content, or pursuing personal growth. In this two-part episode, you’ll hear the highlights from my YouTube video about overcoming resistance and then a special hour-long interview I had with Steven Pressfield himself. It’s a must-listen for anyone looking to win the daily battle against their internal obstacles. Steven and I explore how resistance manifests in our lives, its deceptive lies, and the strategies to defeat it. We also discuss Steven’s personal journey, his groundbreaking works, and his profound insights into creative endeavors. This conversation will resonate not just with writers and artists, but with entrepreneurs, athletes, and anyone striving to live their calling. Key Highlights: Exposing Resistance: Recognize resistance as the enemy holding you back and learn how to map out its attacks in your daily life. The Lies We Believe: Uncover resistance’s tactics, like procrastination, shadow callings, and settling for temporary pleasures. The Bigger the Dream, the Bigger the Resistance: Why significant goals attract greater obstacles—and why that’s a sign you’re on the right track. Turning Pro: Learn how shifting your mindset from amateur to professional is the antidote to overcoming resistance. Steven’s Wisdom: Hear Steven’s stories, from his early struggles to finding his calling, and how he channels creativity through disciplined action. This episode is packed with transformative advice for conquering resistance and stepping into your highest potential. Tune in, take notes, and let’s beat resistance together! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive deep into the theme of resistance with insights drawn from one of my all-time favorite books, The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Resistance is that unseen force that stops us from doing what we’re meant to do—whether it’s starting a business, creating content, or pursuing personal growth. In this two-part episode, you’ll hear the highlights from my YouTube video about overcoming resistance and then a special hour-long interview I had with Steven Pressfield himself. It’s a must-listen for anyone looking to win the daily battle against their internal obstacles.

Steven and I explore how resistance manifests in our lives, its deceptive lies, and the strategies to defeat it. We also discuss Steven’s personal journey, his groundbreaking works, and his profound insights into creative endeavors. This conversation will resonate not just with writers and artists, but with entrepreneurs, athletes, and anyone striving to live their calling.

Key Highlights:

  • Exposing Resistance: Recognize resistance as the enemy holding you back and learn how to map out its attacks in your daily life.
  • The Lies We Believe: Uncover resistance’s tactics, like procrastination, shadow callings, and settling for temporary pleasures.
  • The Bigger the Dream, the Bigger the Resistance: Why significant goals attract greater obstacles—and why that’s a sign you’re on the right track.
  • Turning Pro: Learn how shifting your mindset from amateur to professional is the antidote to overcoming resistance.
  • Steven’s Wisdom: Hear Steven’s stories, from his early struggles to finding his calling, and how he channels creativity through disciplined action.

This episode is packed with transformative advice for conquering resistance and stepping into your highest potential. Tune in, take notes, and let’s beat resistance together!

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

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]]> 4254 No Ads Needed: Kathryn Jones Lish on Mastering Joint Partnerships Recently, I sat down with Kathryn Jones Lish, an expert in joint ventures and partnerships, for an insightful episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Kathryn and I dived deep into a tactic that played a pivotal role in building ClickFunnels to $10 million in revenue without a single ad purchase during its first two years: joint ventures. We unpacked how these partnerships can provide a powerful alternative to paid advertising, offering a scalable and sustainable way to drive traffic and sales. Kathryn shared her incredible journey, starting from her dorm room with limited resources to mastering the art of joint ventures. We discussed the framework she developed for creating successful collaborations, including how to identify complementary partners, position your offer effectively, and use step-by-step systems to ensure both parties achieve their goals. Her approach has delivered transformative results, and she offers actionable insights that anyone—from beginners to seasoned entrepreneurs—can implement. Key Takeaways: Understanding Joint Ventures: What they are, how they work, and why they’re a game-changer for traffic and sales. Complementary Partnerships: How to identify partners whose audiences align perfectly with your offer. Breaking News Method: Kathryn’s strategy for standing out and positioning yourself as the go-to choice for collaborations. Repitching for Success: Leveraging results to turn one-time partnerships into ongoing collaborations. Avoiding Common Mistakes: Why proving your offer and pitch matters before approaching a potential partner. Whether you're looking to break free from ad reliance or scale your business to new heights, this episode is packed with strategies that can redefine your approach to growth. Tune in and learn how to make partnerships your secret weapon! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 Nov 2024 10:00:00 -0000 No Ads Needed: Kathryn Jones Lish on Mastering Joint Partnerships full 3 59 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently, I sat down with Kathryn Jones Lish, an expert in joint ventures and partnerships, for an insightful episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Kathryn and I dived deep into a tactic that played a pivotal role in building ClickFunnels to $10 million in revenue without a single ad purchase during its first two years: joint ventures. We unpacked how these partnerships can provide a powerful alternative to paid advertising, offering a scalable and sustainable way to drive traffic and sales. Kathryn shared her incredible journey, starting from her dorm room with limited resources to mastering the art of joint ventures. We discussed the framework she developed for creating successful collaborations, including how to identify complementary partners, position your offer effectively, and use step-by-step systems to ensure both parties achieve their goals. Her approach has delivered transformative results, and she offers actionable insights that anyone—from beginners to seasoned entrepreneurs—can implement. Key Takeaways: Understanding Joint Ventures: What they are, how they work, and why they’re a game-changer for traffic and sales. Complementary Partnerships: How to identify partners whose audiences align perfectly with your offer. Breaking News Method: Kathryn’s strategy for standing out and positioning yourself as the go-to choice for collaborations. Repitching for Success: Leveraging results to turn one-time partnerships into ongoing collaborations. Avoiding Common Mistakes: Why proving your offer and pitch matters before approaching a potential partner. Whether you're looking to break free from ad reliance or scale your business to new heights, this episode is packed with strategies that can redefine your approach to growth. Tune in and learn how to make partnerships your secret weapon! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently, I sat down with Kathryn Jones Lish, an expert in joint ventures and partnerships, for an insightful episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Kathryn and I dived deep into a tactic that played a pivotal role in building ClickFunnels to $10 million in revenue without a single ad purchase during its first two years: joint ventures. We unpacked how these partnerships can provide a powerful alternative to paid advertising, offering a scalable and sustainable way to drive traffic and sales.

Kathryn shared her incredible journey, starting from her dorm room with limited resources to mastering the art of joint ventures. We discussed the framework she developed for creating successful collaborations, including how to identify complementary partners, position your offer effectively, and use step-by-step systems to ensure both parties achieve their goals. Her approach has delivered transformative results, and she offers actionable insights that anyone—from beginners to seasoned entrepreneurs—can implement.

Key Takeaways:

  • Understanding Joint Ventures: What they are, how they work, and why they’re a game-changer for traffic and sales.
  • Complementary Partnerships: How to identify partners whose audiences align perfectly with your offer.
  • Breaking News Method: Kathryn’s strategy for standing out and positioning yourself as the go-to choice for collaborations.
  • Repitching for Success: Leveraging results to turn one-time partnerships into ongoing collaborations.
  • Avoiding Common Mistakes: Why proving your offer and pitch matters before approaching a potential partner.

Whether you're looking to break free from ad reliance or scale your business to new heights, this episode is packed with strategies that can redefine your approach to growth. Tune in and learn how to make partnerships your secret weapon!

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3846 From Creating Noise to Solving Agitation: Q&A from the OFA Challenge In today’s episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of my favorite strategies: creating and leveraging noise to make your products irresistible. I know firsthand how crucial it is to capture attention in a crowded marketplace, and today I’m sharing insights to help you do just that. We explore the difference between making your own noise versus aligning with noise that already exists in your industry. Both approaches have their pros and cons, but there’s a lot of potential in strategically using trends and events to drive traffic and boost sales. I share practical ways to capitalize on seasonal and cultural events, whether it's major sports matches or the wave of New Year's resolutions. It’s about harnessing the energy already present and riding that wave to introduce your offers. These tactics may seem simple, but they can be game-changers in connecting with your audience at the right moment. Key Highlights: Understanding the importance of creating a reason for your customers to buy now. How to align with trends and existing cultural moments to drive engagement. The difference between adding bonuses versus offering discounts and why the former could be a better strategy. Real-life examples, like how I’ve utilized big events like Black Friday or Christmas for ClickFunnels promotions. Insights on over-delivering in all aspects of your marketing to build lasting trust and brand loyalty. Whether you’re planning holiday campaigns or thinking ahead to 2025, this episode will give you the clarity and motivation to make your marketing stand out. Don't miss it! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Nov 2024 10:00:00 -0000 From Creating Noise to Solving Agitation: Q&A from the OFA Challenge full 3 58 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In today’s episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of my favorite strategies: creating and leveraging noise to make your products irresistible. I know firsthand how crucial it is to capture attention in a crowded marketplace, and today I’m sharing insights to help you do just that. We explore the difference between making your own noise versus aligning with noise that already exists in your industry. Both approaches have their pros and cons, but there’s a lot of potential in strategically using trends and events to drive traffic and boost sales. I share practical ways to capitalize on seasonal and cultural events, whether it's major sports matches or the wave of New Year's resolutions. It’s about harnessing the energy already present and riding that wave to introduce your offers. These tactics may seem simple, but they can be game-changers in connecting with your audience at the right moment. Key Highlights: Understanding the importance of creating a reason for your customers to buy now. How to align with trends and existing cultural moments to drive engagement. The difference between adding bonuses versus offering discounts and why the former could be a better strategy. Real-life examples, like how I’ve utilized big events like Black Friday or Christmas for ClickFunnels promotions. Insights on over-delivering in all aspects of your marketing to build lasting trust and brand loyalty. Whether you’re planning holiday campaigns or thinking ahead to 2025, this episode will give you the clarity and motivation to make your marketing stand out. Don't miss it! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In today’s episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of my favorite strategies: creating and leveraging noise to make your products irresistible. I know firsthand how crucial it is to capture attention in a crowded marketplace, and today I’m sharing insights to help you do just that. We explore the difference between making your own noise versus aligning with noise that already exists in your industry. Both approaches have their pros and cons, but there’s a lot of potential in strategically using trends and events to drive traffic and boost sales.

I share practical ways to capitalize on seasonal and cultural events, whether it's major sports matches or the wave of New Year's resolutions. It’s about harnessing the energy already present and riding that wave to introduce your offers. These tactics may seem simple, but they can be game-changers in connecting with your audience at the right moment.

Key Highlights:

  • Understanding the importance of creating a reason for your customers to buy now.
  • How to align with trends and existing cultural moments to drive engagement.
  • The difference between adding bonuses versus offering discounts and why the former could be a better strategy.
  • Real-life examples, like how I’ve utilized big events like Black Friday or Christmas for ClickFunnels promotions.
  • Insights on over-delivering in all aspects of your marketing to build lasting trust and brand loyalty.

Whether you’re planning holiday campaigns or thinking ahead to 2025, this episode will give you the clarity and motivation to make your marketing stand out. Don't miss it!

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3236 Unlocking the Secrets to a Profitable Funnel Agency with Kathryn Jones Lish Recently, I had the pleasure of speaking with the incredible Kathryn Jones Lish, a powerhouse in the funnel-building world. Kathryn first came into the ClickFunnels ecosystem back in 2015 and has since made an impressive career out of building and designing high-converting sales funnels. We just wrapped up the "Sell Sales Funnels Challenge" at the ClickFunnels office, and in this episode, we dive into how anyone can turn funnel building into a lucrative business. Kathryn shares her journey from college student to successful entrepreneur, driven by a passion to impact both her family and the world. Kathryn's story is one of transformation and purpose. She recounts her experiences, including early struggles, learning how to market online, and how she found ClickFunnels. We also discuss the resistance she faced, such as personal challenges that tested her entrepreneurial aspirations. Despite the doubts of others, Kathryn's faith in her vision empowered her to design a life that balances family and a thriving career. Our conversation touches on the powerful concept of “enabling and providing opportunities” and how this shaped her approach to business and parenting. Key Highlights: Strategies for building a funnel agency and scaling to a full-fledged business. Finding clients who are in need and effectively communicating your value to them. How to leverage funnel hacking and design hacking to create high-converting funnels. The journey from basic funnel design to advanced optimization and agency building. Insights into balancing entrepreneurship with personal and family life. Whether you're a budding funnel builder or looking to elevate your skills, this episode is packed with insights to help you turn your passion for funnels into a profitable venture. Join us and discover the opportunities that await in the funnel-building world! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Nov 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Unlocking the Secrets to a Profitable Funnel Agency with Kathryn Jones Lish full 3 57 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently, I had the pleasure of speaking with the incredible Kathryn Jones Lish, a powerhouse in the funnel-building world. Kathryn first came into the ClickFunnels ecosystem back in 2015 and has since made an impressive career out of building and designing high-converting sales funnels. We just wrapped up the "Sell Sales Funnels Challenge" at the ClickFunnels office, and in this episode, we dive into how anyone can turn funnel building into a lucrative business. Kathryn shares her journey from college student to successful entrepreneur, driven by a passion to impact both her family and the world. Kathryn's story is one of transformation and purpose. She recounts her experiences, including early struggles, learning how to market online, and how she found ClickFunnels. We also discuss the resistance she faced, such as personal challenges that tested her entrepreneurial aspirations. Despite the doubts of others, Kathryn's faith in her vision empowered her to design a life that balances family and a thriving career. Our conversation touches on the powerful concept of “enabling and providing opportunities” and how this shaped her approach to business and parenting. Key Highlights: Strategies for building a funnel agency and scaling to a full-fledged business. Finding clients who are in need and effectively communicating your value to them. How to leverage funnel hacking and design hacking to create high-converting funnels. The journey from basic funnel design to advanced optimization and agency building. Insights into balancing entrepreneurship with personal and family life. Whether you're a budding funnel builder or looking to elevate your skills, this episode is packed with insights to help you turn your passion for funnels into a profitable venture. Join us and discover the opportunities that await in the funnel-building world! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently, I had the pleasure of speaking with the incredible Kathryn Jones Lish, a powerhouse in the funnel-building world. Kathryn first came into the ClickFunnels ecosystem back in 2015 and has since made an impressive career out of building and designing high-converting sales funnels. We just wrapped up the "Sell Sales Funnels Challenge" at the ClickFunnels office, and in this episode, we dive into how anyone can turn funnel building into a lucrative business. Kathryn shares her journey from college student to successful entrepreneur, driven by a passion to impact both her family and the world.

Kathryn's story is one of transformation and purpose. She recounts her experiences, including early struggles, learning how to market online, and how she found ClickFunnels. We also discuss the resistance she faced, such as personal challenges that tested her entrepreneurial aspirations. Despite the doubts of others, Kathryn's faith in her vision empowered her to design a life that balances family and a thriving career. Our conversation touches on the powerful concept of “enabling and providing opportunities” and how this shaped her approach to business and parenting.

Key Highlights:

  • Strategies for building a funnel agency and scaling to a full-fledged business.
  • Finding clients who are in need and effectively communicating your value to them.
  • How to leverage funnel hacking and design hacking to create high-converting funnels.
  • The journey from basic funnel design to advanced optimization and agency building.
  • Insights into balancing entrepreneurship with personal and family life.

Whether you're a budding funnel builder or looking to elevate your skills, this episode is packed with insights to help you turn your passion for funnels into a profitable venture. Join us and discover the opportunities that await in the funnel-building world!

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 4799 Mentorship and Leadership: A Deep Dive of “Atlas Shrugged” with Josh Forti (5 of 5) In this exciting conclusion of the five-part Atlas Shrugged interview series on the Marketing Secrets podcast, I sat down with Josh Forti for a deep, engaging, and sometimes humorous conversation that delves into entrepreneurship, leadership, and the philosophical ideas inspired by Ayn Rand’s famous book. We had been talking for over three hours, starting our session late at night and continuing into the early hours, but the energy and insights made it all worthwhile. Josh and I explored the importance of having role models and mentors, especially as you climb higher in the business world. We discussed who I look up to in business and life, from companies like Salesforce to individuals like Tony Robbins. We shared stories about the balance between ambition and faith, and the incredible impact of following a calling or purpose that feels bigger than oneself. One of the most moving parts was discussing Tony Robbins' sincerity and the profound moments I've experienced with him, both on and off stage. Here are some of the key topics we covered: Role Models in Business: Why looking up to industry giants like Salesforce and HubSpot inspires me to reach the next level. Faith and Purpose: How seeing our work as a calling changes everything and gives us the strength to persevere through challenges. Lessons from Tony Robbins: Stories about Tony’s influence, sincerity, and the life-changing energy he brings to his events. Handling Pressure: Strategies I use to cope with the immense responsibilities of leading a massive community and business. Personal Insights: From my greatest fears as a parent to how I seek spiritual guidance before major events. This episode is packed with reflections on how to navigate the complexities of leadership, stay true to your values, and remain grounded even when the weight of the world feels overwhelming. Join us for a heartfelt discussion that encourages us all to embrace our purpose and run with it. And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 Nov 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Mentorship and Leadership: A Deep Dive of “Atlas Shrugged” with Josh Forti (5 of 5) full 3 56 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this exciting conclusion of the five-part Atlas Shrugged interview series on the Marketing Secrets podcast, I sat down with Josh Forti for a deep, engaging, and sometimes humorous conversation that delves into entrepreneurship, leadership, and the philosophical ideas inspired by Ayn Rand’s famous book. We had been talking for over three hours, starting our session late at night and continuing into the early hours, but the energy and insights made it all worthwhile. Josh and I explored the importance of having role models and mentors, especially as you climb higher in the business world. We discussed who I look up to in business and life, from companies like Salesforce to individuals like Tony Robbins. We shared stories about the balance between ambition and faith, and the incredible impact of following a calling or purpose that feels bigger than oneself. One of the most moving parts was discussing Tony Robbins' sincerity and the profound moments I've experienced with him, both on and off stage. Here are some of the key topics we covered: Role Models in Business: Why looking up to industry giants like Salesforce and HubSpot inspires me to reach the next level. Faith and Purpose: How seeing our work as a calling changes everything and gives us the strength to persevere through challenges. Lessons from Tony Robbins: Stories about Tony’s influence, sincerity, and the life-changing energy he brings to his events. Handling Pressure: Strategies I use to cope with the immense responsibilities of leading a massive community and business. Personal Insights: From my greatest fears as a parent to how I seek spiritual guidance before major events. This episode is packed with reflections on how to navigate the complexities of leadership, stay true to your values, and remain grounded even when the weight of the world feels overwhelming. Join us for a heartfelt discussion that encourages us all to embrace our purpose and run with it. And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this exciting conclusion of the five-part Atlas Shrugged interview series on the Marketing Secrets podcast, I sat down with Josh Forti for a deep, engaging, and sometimes humorous conversation that delves into entrepreneurship, leadership, and the philosophical ideas inspired by Ayn Rand’s famous book. We had been talking for over three hours, starting our session late at night and continuing into the early hours, but the energy and insights made it all worthwhile.

Josh and I explored the importance of having role models and mentors, especially as you climb higher in the business world. We discussed who I look up to in business and life, from companies like Salesforce to individuals like Tony Robbins. We shared stories about the balance between ambition and faith, and the incredible impact of following a calling or purpose that feels bigger than oneself. One of the most moving parts was discussing Tony Robbins' sincerity and the profound moments I've experienced with him, both on and off stage.

Here are some of the key topics we covered:

  • Role Models in Business: Why looking up to industry giants like Salesforce and HubSpot inspires me to reach the next level.
  • Faith and Purpose: How seeing our work as a calling changes everything and gives us the strength to persevere through challenges.
  • Lessons from Tony Robbins: Stories about Tony’s influence, sincerity, and the life-changing energy he brings to his events.
  • Handling Pressure: Strategies I use to cope with the immense responsibilities of leading a massive community and business.
  • Personal Insights: From my greatest fears as a parent to how I seek spiritual guidance before major events.

This episode is packed with reflections on how to navigate the complexities of leadership, stay true to your values, and remain grounded even when the weight of the world feels overwhelming. Join us for a heartfelt discussion that encourages us all to embrace our purpose and run with it.

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2292 Hypnotic Selling Secrets: How to Ethically Influence and Close More Sales On this episode, I take you on a journey into the world of hypnotic selling and how you can use these techniques to boost your sales and influence online. Now we’re trying something new with this content, in which we reference the powerful lessons I learned from Darren Stephens, an expert hypnotist and public speaker, alongside strategies I’ve refined over the years from studying hypnosis and its impact on sales. In the future, we may even pivot to calling this the Selling Online Podcast, but hopefully you enjoy this new format! For this episode, I wanted to deliver a unique experience, combining my eight hypnotic selling secrets with a special replay of Darren’s legendary presentation from the second Funnel Hacking LIVE event. I begin by sharing my journey of discovering how hypnosis principles can be ethically applied to marketing and sales, using subconscious persuasion to connect with and influence your audience effectively. I dive into concepts like using suggestions to bypass the conscious mind, creating vivid future outcomes through age progression, and the art of getting people into a “yes” state to improve your closing rates. Then we jump into Darren Stephen’s full presentation from FHL. If you’re curious or skeptical about how these strategies work, this episode will provide a fascinating, practical breakdown that you can implement in your own sales processes. Key Highlights: Hypnotic Suggestions: How to influence your audience’s subconscious mind through strategic language patterns. Age Progression Techniques: Creating vivid future scenarios to help prospects envision their success with your offer. Building Rapport and Authority: Insights from Darren Stephens on using truisms and universal statements for connection. The Yes State: How getting repeated affirmations from your audience primes them to say yes to your offer. Ethical Use of Hypnosis: Darren emphasizes the importance of using these tools from a place of genuine care and intent. Whether you’re a seasoned marketer or just beginning to craft your sales presentations, these hypnotic techniques could be the missing link to transform your selling strategy. Tune in and learn how to harness the power of subconscious influence to skyrocket your sales! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Hypnotic Selling Secrets: How to Ethically Influence and Close More Sales full 3 55 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode, I take you on a journey into the world of hypnotic selling and how you can use these techniques to boost your sales and influence online. Now we’re trying something new with this content, in which we reference the powerful lessons I learned from Darren Stephens, an expert hypnotist and public speaker, alongside strategies I’ve refined over the years from studying hypnosis and its impact on sales. In the future, we may even pivot to calling this the Selling Online Podcast, but hopefully you enjoy this new format! For this episode, I wanted to deliver a unique experience, combining my eight hypnotic selling secrets with a special replay of Darren’s legendary presentation from the second Funnel Hacking LIVE event. I begin by sharing my journey of discovering how hypnosis principles can be ethically applied to marketing and sales, using subconscious persuasion to connect with and influence your audience effectively. I dive into concepts like using suggestions to bypass the conscious mind, creating vivid future outcomes through age progression, and the art of getting people into a “yes” state to improve your closing rates. Then we jump into Darren Stephen’s full presentation from FHL. If you’re curious or skeptical about how these strategies work, this episode will provide a fascinating, practical breakdown that you can implement in your own sales processes. Key Highlights: Hypnotic Suggestions: How to influence your audience’s subconscious mind through strategic language patterns. Age Progression Techniques: Creating vivid future scenarios to help prospects envision their success with your offer. Building Rapport and Authority: Insights from Darren Stephens on using truisms and universal statements for connection. The Yes State: How getting repeated affirmations from your audience primes them to say yes to your offer. Ethical Use of Hypnosis: Darren emphasizes the importance of using these tools from a place of genuine care and intent. Whether you’re a seasoned marketer or just beginning to craft your sales presentations, these hypnotic techniques could be the missing link to transform your selling strategy. Tune in and learn how to harness the power of subconscious influence to skyrocket your sales! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode, I take you on a journey into the world of hypnotic selling and how you can use these techniques to boost your sales and influence online. Now we’re trying something new with this content, in which we reference the powerful lessons I learned from Darren Stephens, an expert hypnotist and public speaker, alongside strategies I’ve refined over the years from studying hypnosis and its impact on sales. In the future, we may even pivot to calling this the Selling Online Podcast, but hopefully you enjoy this new format!

For this episode, I wanted to deliver a unique experience, combining my eight hypnotic selling secrets with a special replay of Darren’s legendary presentation from the second Funnel Hacking LIVE event. I begin by sharing my journey of discovering how hypnosis principles can be ethically applied to marketing and sales, using subconscious persuasion to connect with and influence your audience effectively. I dive into concepts like using suggestions to bypass the conscious mind, creating vivid future outcomes through age progression, and the art of getting people into a “yes” state to improve your closing rates. Then we jump into Darren Stephen’s full presentation from FHL.

If you’re curious or skeptical about how these strategies work, this episode will provide a fascinating, practical breakdown that you can implement in your own sales processes.

Key Highlights:

  • Hypnotic Suggestions: How to influence your audience’s subconscious mind through strategic language patterns.
  • Age Progression Techniques: Creating vivid future scenarios to help prospects envision their success with your offer.
  • Building Rapport and Authority: Insights from Darren Stephens on using truisms and universal statements for connection.
  • The Yes State: How getting repeated affirmations from your audience primes them to say yes to your offer.
  • Ethical Use of Hypnosis: Darren emphasizes the importance of using these tools from a place of genuine care and intent.

Whether you’re a seasoned marketer or just beginning to craft your sales presentations, these hypnotic techniques could be the missing link to transform your selling strategy. Tune in and learn how to harness the power of subconscious influence to skyrocket your sales!

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3497 Family, Faith, and Business: A Deep Dive of “Atlas Shrugged” with Josh Forti (4 of 5) In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I continue my in-depth conversation with Josh Forti, exploring the ideas in Atlas Shrugged and diving into the intersection of personal beliefs, entrepreneurship, and family values. Throughout this series, we’ve tackled sensitive subjects like religion, politics, and the evolving role of family, all framed within the philosophy of Ayn Rand’s classic. In this fourth installment, Josh and I examine the driving forces behind entrepreneurship, the challenges of staying true to core values, and how these principles influence both business and personal life. Josh and I discuss how our upbringings and relationships with our parents shaped our outlooks and entrepreneurial spirits. We reflect on how pivotal those early family values were to our development, particularly the roles of our fathers as hardworking role models and our mothers as sources of unconditional support. We also talk about the significant impact of maintaining a balance between masculine and feminine energy in relationships, a concept I first explored with Tony Robbins. Key Highlights: Parental Influence: How family dynamics and values shape entrepreneurial drive and personal development. Masculine and Feminine Energy: Insights from Tony Robbins on balancing energies in relationships and their importance in family stability. Entrepreneurship and Influence: The role of communication in making complex ideas accessible and influential to a broad audience. Philosophical Conflicts: Navigating the concepts of charity and self-interest in Atlas Shrugged and reconciling these with our faith and moral values. This episode is packed with personal insights on navigating life as an entrepreneur while remaining grounded in one’s values. Join us as we reflect on the intersection of philosophy, family, and business and how they shape our path forward. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Nov 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Family, Faith, and Business: A Deep Dive of “Atlas Shrugged” with Josh Forti (4 of 5) full 3 54 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I continue my in-depth conversation with Josh Forti, exploring the ideas in Atlas Shrugged and diving into the intersection of personal beliefs, entrepreneurship, and family values. Throughout this series, we’ve tackled sensitive subjects like religion, politics, and the evolving role of family, all framed within the philosophy of Ayn Rand’s classic. In this fourth installment, Josh and I examine the driving forces behind entrepreneurship, the challenges of staying true to core values, and how these principles influence both business and personal life. Josh and I discuss how our upbringings and relationships with our parents shaped our outlooks and entrepreneurial spirits. We reflect on how pivotal those early family values were to our development, particularly the roles of our fathers as hardworking role models and our mothers as sources of unconditional support. We also talk about the significant impact of maintaining a balance between masculine and feminine energy in relationships, a concept I first explored with Tony Robbins. Key Highlights: Parental Influence: How family dynamics and values shape entrepreneurial drive and personal development. Masculine and Feminine Energy: Insights from Tony Robbins on balancing energies in relationships and their importance in family stability. Entrepreneurship and Influence: The role of communication in making complex ideas accessible and influential to a broad audience. Philosophical Conflicts: Navigating the concepts of charity and self-interest in Atlas Shrugged and reconciling these with our faith and moral values. This episode is packed with personal insights on navigating life as an entrepreneur while remaining grounded in one’s values. Join us as we reflect on the intersection of philosophy, family, and business and how they shape our path forward. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I continue my in-depth conversation with Josh Forti, exploring the ideas in Atlas Shrugged and diving into the intersection of personal beliefs, entrepreneurship, and family values. Throughout this series, we’ve tackled sensitive subjects like religion, politics, and the evolving role of family, all framed within the philosophy of Ayn Rand’s classic. In this fourth installment, Josh and I examine the driving forces behind entrepreneurship, the challenges of staying true to core values, and how these principles influence both business and personal life.

Josh and I discuss how our upbringings and relationships with our parents shaped our outlooks and entrepreneurial spirits. We reflect on how pivotal those early family values were to our development, particularly the roles of our fathers as hardworking role models and our mothers as sources of unconditional support. We also talk about the significant impact of maintaining a balance between masculine and feminine energy in relationships, a concept I first explored with Tony Robbins.

Key Highlights:

  • Parental Influence: How family dynamics and values shape entrepreneurial drive and personal development.
  • Masculine and Feminine Energy: Insights from Tony Robbins on balancing energies in relationships and their importance in family stability.
  • Entrepreneurship and Influence: The role of communication in making complex ideas accessible and influential to a broad audience.
  • Philosophical Conflicts: Navigating the concepts of charity and self-interest in Atlas Shrugged and reconciling these with our faith and moral values.

This episode is packed with personal insights on navigating life as an entrepreneur while remaining grounded in one’s values. Join us as we reflect on the intersection of philosophy, family, and business and how they shape our path forward.

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]]> 2602 Elevate Your Offer: Q&A from the One Funnel Away Challenge Hey everybody, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast! I just finished up a fantastic session answering some top questions in the One Funnel Away Challenge, where we dove deep into core selling frameworks and the strategies to make them work effectively. It was a great chance to connect with everyone and tackle areas where people commonly get stuck, especially with the “Who, What, Why, How” script and the Epiphany Bridge. In this episode, I break down these foundational scripts and how they can evolve to suit different contexts, from short ads to high-ticket webinars. I also cover how to adjust your positioning to boost conversions, plus a look at the “Perfect Webinar” approach and how to maximize it for bigger offers. Key Highlights: Understanding the Epiphany Bridge: How this storytelling approach establishes connection and builds trust in your offers. Who, What, Why, How Script: Why this simple structure is essential for quick pitches and short-form sales. When to Level Up: Knowing when to upgrade from a VSL to the Perfect Webinar script for higher ticket items. Offer Positioning: The importance of aligning your pricing with the problem you’re solving and the potential returns. Lead Magnets that Sell: Tips on structuring your lead magnets to create anticipation and increase engagement with your VSL. Tune in to find out how to take these insights and immediately start leveling up your sales strategy! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 Nov 2024 10:00:00 -0000 Elevate Your Offer: Q&A from the One Funnel Away Challenge full 3 53 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Hey everybody, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast! I just finished up a fantastic session answering some top questions in the One Funnel Away Challenge, where we dove deep into core selling frameworks and the strategies to make them work effectively. It was a great chance to connect with everyone and tackle areas where people commonly get stuck, especially with the “Who, What, Why, How” script and the Epiphany Bridge. In this episode, I break down these foundational scripts and how they can evolve to suit different contexts, from short ads to high-ticket webinars. I also cover how to adjust your positioning to boost conversions, plus a look at the “Perfect Webinar” approach and how to maximize it for bigger offers. Key Highlights: Understanding the Epiphany Bridge: How this storytelling approach establishes connection and builds trust in your offers. Who, What, Why, How Script: Why this simple structure is essential for quick pitches and short-form sales. When to Level Up: Knowing when to upgrade from a VSL to the Perfect Webinar script for higher ticket items. Offer Positioning: The importance of aligning your pricing with the problem you’re solving and the potential returns. Lead Magnets that Sell: Tips on structuring your lead magnets to create anticipation and increase engagement with your VSL. Tune in to find out how to take these insights and immediately start leveling up your sales strategy! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hey everybody, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast! I just finished up a fantastic session answering some top questions in the One Funnel Away Challenge, where we dove deep into core selling frameworks and the strategies to make them work effectively. It was a great chance to connect with everyone and tackle areas where people commonly get stuck, especially with the “Who, What, Why, How” script and the Epiphany Bridge.

In this episode, I break down these foundational scripts and how they can evolve to suit different contexts, from short ads to high-ticket webinars. I also cover how to adjust your positioning to boost conversions, plus a look at the “Perfect Webinar” approach and how to maximize it for bigger offers.

Key Highlights:

  • Understanding the Epiphany Bridge: How this storytelling approach establishes connection and builds trust in your offers.
  • Who, What, Why, How Script: Why this simple structure is essential for quick pitches and short-form sales.
  • When to Level Up: Knowing when to upgrade from a VSL to the Perfect Webinar script for higher ticket items.
  • Offer Positioning: The importance of aligning your pricing with the problem you’re solving and the potential returns.
  • Lead Magnets that Sell: Tips on structuring your lead magnets to create anticipation and increase engagement with your VSL.

Tune in to find out how to take these insights and immediately start leveling up your sales strategy!

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]]> 3739 Fulfillment and Achievement: A Deep Dive of "Atlas Shrugged" with Josh Forti (3 of 5) We’re back with part 3 of my fascinating interview with Josh Forti and our special series exploring Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. In this installment we unpack powerful lessons from the book that continue to shape the way I think about business, value, and success. We focus on what it means to be a “prime mover” and discuss how producers can create meaningful change without losing their identity or purpose. Josh and I explore a variety of deep topics in this episode, from the importance of fulfilling work to navigating societal expectations around success. One of the standout moments was when we discussed Myron Golden’s “four levels of value” framework, which breaks down the hierarchy of contributions—from manual labor to visionary leadership—and why each level plays a crucial role. This conversation pushed us to ask hard questions about fulfillment and whether everyone needs to be an entrepreneur to feel truly alive. Key Topics and Questions Explored: Fulfillment vs. Achievement: Can someone find deep fulfillment in roles that society views as “average” or non-entrepreneurial? The Four Levels of Value: We break down how workers, managers, communicators, and visionaries contribute to building a thriving organization. Success and Societal Criticism: How do you thrive in a world where success can often be criticized or misunderstood? Balancing Ambition and Contribution: What does it take to succeed while still giving back to your family, community, and society? The Art of Writing as a Journey: I share insights about my next book project and how it’s reshaping the way I think about storytelling. If you’re someone trying to balance growth with purpose, or you’ve ever questioned the path you’re on, this episode will resonate deeply with you. It’s packed with thought-provoking ideas, actionable insights, and a few personal stories you won’t want to miss. Tune in, and let’s explore what it really means to shrug off limits and step into your full potential! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Fulfillment and Achievement: A Deep Dive of "Atlas Shrugged" with Josh Forti (3 of 5) full 3 52 Russell Brunson | YAP Media We’re back with part 3 of my fascinating interview with Josh Forti and our special series exploring Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. In this installment we unpack powerful lessons from the book that continue to shape the way I think about business, value, and success. We focus on what it means to be a “prime mover” and discuss how producers can create meaningful change without losing their identity or purpose. Josh and I explore a variety of deep topics in this episode, from the importance of fulfilling work to navigating societal expectations around success. One of the standout moments was when we discussed Myron Golden’s “four levels of value” framework, which breaks down the hierarchy of contributions—from manual labor to visionary leadership—and why each level plays a crucial role. This conversation pushed us to ask hard questions about fulfillment and whether everyone needs to be an entrepreneur to feel truly alive. Key Topics and Questions Explored: Fulfillment vs. Achievement: Can someone find deep fulfillment in roles that society views as “average” or non-entrepreneurial? The Four Levels of Value: We break down how workers, managers, communicators, and visionaries contribute to building a thriving organization. Success and Societal Criticism: How do you thrive in a world where success can often be criticized or misunderstood? Balancing Ambition and Contribution: What does it take to succeed while still giving back to your family, community, and society? The Art of Writing as a Journey: I share insights about my next book project and how it’s reshaping the way I think about storytelling. If you’re someone trying to balance growth with purpose, or you’ve ever questioned the path you’re on, this episode will resonate deeply with you. It’s packed with thought-provoking ideas, actionable insights, and a few personal stories you won’t want to miss. Tune in, and let’s explore what it really means to shrug off limits and step into your full potential! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices We’re back with part 3 of my fascinating interview with Josh Forti and our special series exploring Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. In this installment we unpack powerful lessons from the book that continue to shape the way I think about business, value, and success. We focus on what it means to be a “prime mover” and discuss how producers can create meaningful change without losing their identity or purpose.

Josh and I explore a variety of deep topics in this episode, from the importance of fulfilling work to navigating societal expectations around success. One of the standout moments was when we discussed Myron Golden’s “four levels of value” framework, which breaks down the hierarchy of contributions—from manual labor to visionary leadership—and why each level plays a crucial role. This conversation pushed us to ask hard questions about fulfillment and whether everyone needs to be an entrepreneur to feel truly alive.

Key Topics and Questions Explored:

  • Fulfillment vs. Achievement: Can someone find deep fulfillment in roles that society views as “average” or non-entrepreneurial?
  • The Four Levels of Value: We break down how workers, managers, communicators, and visionaries contribute to building a thriving organization.
  • Success and Societal Criticism: How do you thrive in a world where success can often be criticized or misunderstood?
  • Balancing Ambition and Contribution: What does it take to succeed while still giving back to your family, community, and society?
  • The Art of Writing as a Journey: I share insights about my next book project and how it’s reshaping the way I think about storytelling.

If you’re someone trying to balance growth with purpose, or you’ve ever questioned the path you’re on, this episode will resonate deeply with you. It’s packed with thought-provoking ideas, actionable insights, and a few personal stories you won’t want to miss. Tune in, and let’s explore what it really means to shrug off limits and step into your full potential!

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]]> 2464 Charisma Hacking 101: Mastering Your Unique Style with McCall Jones I had the pleasure of sitting down with McCall Jones, founder of Charisma Hacking, and together we dove deep into a topic every entrepreneur struggles with: how to be your authentic self on camera. McCall has a powerful framework that makes it easier for anyone to present with confidence, without trying to mimic people like Tony Robbins or Gary Vee. If you’ve ever felt awkward or out of place while speaking or presenting or when making a video, this episode is for you. McCall shares how understanding your unique "charisma type" helps you stay true to yourself while still connecting with your audience. We also talked about how storytelling—when done right—can increase the value of what you’re offering. Whether you’re speaking on stage, on a Facebook Live, or filming ads, knowing how to tap into your charisma can make all the difference in your results. Key Highlights: Discovering Your Charisma Type: Find the style that fits you, so you no longer feel fake or uncomfortable in front of a camera. Emotionally Engaging Stories: Learn how to tell stories that spark connection and inspire action. The Power of Staying "On Center": Avoid looking inauthentic by aligning with your natural charisma type. Real-World Examples: We discuss my own struggles with pitching and how McCall's feedback helped me avoid common pitfalls. Charisma Styles Broken Down: Learn the distinctions between different charisma types like Excite, Roar, and Charm—and how to find your own. This conversation is packed with insights to help you unlock the power of authenticity and storytelling in your business. Tune in now to transform how you present and connect with your audience! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Charisma Hacking 101: Mastering Your Unique Style with McCall Jones full 3 51 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I had the pleasure of sitting down with McCall Jones, founder of Charisma Hacking, and together we dove deep into a topic every entrepreneur struggles with: how to be your authentic self on camera. McCall has a powerful framework that makes it easier for anyone to present with confidence, without trying to mimic people like Tony Robbins or Gary Vee. If you’ve ever felt awkward or out of place while speaking or presenting or when making a video, this episode is for you. McCall shares how understanding your unique "charisma type" helps you stay true to yourself while still connecting with your audience. We also talked about how storytelling—when done right—can increase the value of what you’re offering. Whether you’re speaking on stage, on a Facebook Live, or filming ads, knowing how to tap into your charisma can make all the difference in your results. Key Highlights: Discovering Your Charisma Type: Find the style that fits you, so you no longer feel fake or uncomfortable in front of a camera. Emotionally Engaging Stories: Learn how to tell stories that spark connection and inspire action. The Power of Staying "On Center": Avoid looking inauthentic by aligning with your natural charisma type. Real-World Examples: We discuss my own struggles with pitching and how McCall's feedback helped me avoid common pitfalls. Charisma Styles Broken Down: Learn the distinctions between different charisma types like Excite, Roar, and Charm—and how to find your own. This conversation is packed with insights to help you unlock the power of authenticity and storytelling in your business. Tune in now to transform how you present and connect with your audience! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I had the pleasure of sitting down with McCall Jones, founder of Charisma Hacking, and together we dove deep into a topic every entrepreneur struggles with: how to be your authentic self on camera. McCall has a powerful framework that makes it easier for anyone to present with confidence, without trying to mimic people like Tony Robbins or Gary Vee. If you’ve ever felt awkward or out of place while speaking or presenting or when making a video, this episode is for you.

McCall shares how understanding your unique "charisma type" helps you stay true to yourself while still connecting with your audience. We also talked about how storytelling—when done right—can increase the value of what you’re offering. Whether you’re speaking on stage, on a Facebook Live, or filming ads, knowing how to tap into your charisma can make all the difference in your results.

Key Highlights:

  • Discovering Your Charisma Type: Find the style that fits you, so you no longer feel fake or uncomfortable in front of a camera.
  • Emotionally Engaging Stories: Learn how to tell stories that spark connection and inspire action.
  • The Power of Staying "On Center": Avoid looking inauthentic by aligning with your natural charisma type.
  • Real-World Examples: We discuss my own struggles with pitching and how McCall's feedback helped me avoid common pitfalls.
  • Charisma Styles Broken Down: Learn the distinctions between different charisma types like Excite, Roar, and Charm—and how to find your own.

This conversation is packed with insights to help you unlock the power of authenticity and storytelling in your business. Tune in now to transform how you present and connect with your audience!

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]]> 2874 Purpose, Charity, and Creation: A Deep Dive of “Atlas Shrugged” with Josh Forti (2 of 5) Welcome back to part two of my deep dive with Josh Forti into Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. This conversation is a continuation from the first episode, where we explore some of the philosophical themes in the book and their real-world applications. If you missed part one, I recommend starting there before diving into this episode—it’ll give you the full context of our thought-provoking journey. In this episode, Josh and I discuss topics that go beyond just the book itself. We explore ideas about ambition, productivity, and personal fulfillment, as well as how these concepts influence the way we build businesses and lead our lives. It's not just about scaling companies but also understanding the motives behind why we create, strive, and continue to produce—even when it seems like we've already achieved success. Key Highlights: Greed vs. Growth: We question how ambition is often misinterpreted as greed and explore how personal growth transforms with life stages. Sedation vs. Creation: A deep dive into why so many people stop producing, and how fear or discomfort drives them toward sedation instead of action. Government and Charity: We challenge traditional views on taxes, charity, and responsibility, asking if personal giving should replace government intervention. The Producer's Mindset: We unpack why some people are naturally driven to create and keep building, even after reaching financial success. If you’re interested in how philosophical insights can shape your personal and business decisions, this episode will definitely give you some powerful takeaways. Listen in, and let’s continue pushing the boundaries of what’s possible! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Purpose, Charity, and Creation: A Deep Dive of “Atlas Shrugged” with Josh Forti (2 of 5) full 3 50 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome back to part two of my deep dive with Josh Forti into Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. This conversation is a continuation from the first episode, where we explore some of the philosophical themes in the book and their real-world applications. If you missed part one, I recommend starting there before diving into this episode—it’ll give you the full context of our thought-provoking journey. In this episode, Josh and I discuss topics that go beyond just the book itself. We explore ideas about ambition, productivity, and personal fulfillment, as well as how these concepts influence the way we build businesses and lead our lives. It's not just about scaling companies but also understanding the motives behind why we create, strive, and continue to produce—even when it seems like we've already achieved success. Key Highlights: Greed vs. Growth: We question how ambition is often misinterpreted as greed and explore how personal growth transforms with life stages. Sedation vs. Creation: A deep dive into why so many people stop producing, and how fear or discomfort drives them toward sedation instead of action. Government and Charity: We challenge traditional views on taxes, charity, and responsibility, asking if personal giving should replace government intervention. The Producer's Mindset: We unpack why some people are naturally driven to create and keep building, even after reaching financial success. If you’re interested in how philosophical insights can shape your personal and business decisions, this episode will definitely give you some powerful takeaways. Listen in, and let’s continue pushing the boundaries of what’s possible! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome back to part two of my deep dive with Josh Forti into Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. This conversation is a continuation from the first episode, where we explore some of the philosophical themes in the book and their real-world applications. If you missed part one, I recommend starting there before diving into this episode—it’ll give you the full context of our thought-provoking journey.

In this episode, Josh and I discuss topics that go beyond just the book itself. We explore ideas about ambition, productivity, and personal fulfillment, as well as how these concepts influence the way we build businesses and lead our lives. It's not just about scaling companies but also understanding the motives behind why we create, strive, and continue to produce—even when it seems like we've already achieved success.

Key Highlights:

  • Greed vs. Growth: We question how ambition is often misinterpreted as greed and explore how personal growth transforms with life stages.
  • Sedation vs. Creation: A deep dive into why so many people stop producing, and how fear or discomfort drives them toward sedation instead of action.
  • Government and Charity: We challenge traditional views on taxes, charity, and responsibility, asking if personal giving should replace government intervention.
  • The Producer's Mindset: We unpack why some people are naturally driven to create and keep building, even after reaching financial success.

If you’re interested in how philosophical insights can shape your personal and business decisions, this episode will definitely give you some powerful takeaways. Listen in, and let’s continue pushing the boundaries of what’s possible!

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]]> 2668 Shut It Down or Double Down: Nathan Barry’s Road to $45M with Kit (ConvertKit) Nathan Barry, the creator behind ConvertKit (now rebranded as Kit) came to visit my Inner Circle and gave a very special presentation. Nathan’s journey from a designer to building a software empire fascinated me. He originally tried to solve his frustrations with MailChimp and, in doing so, founded a business that today generates $45 million annually. In this episode, Nathan and I unpack the lessons he’s learned from building and scaling ConvertKit to rebranding it into something bigger. He offers transparent insights into the challenges of entrepreneurship, including the crucial moments when you have to either shut down or double down. Throughout the conversation, Nathan opens up about the turning points that shaped his business. From battling churn to leveraging direct sales in the early days, he shares how a relentless focus on product quality and customer experience laid the foundation for his success. He also discusses his decision to turn down a $200 million acquisition offer and the ripple effects it had on his executive team—proving that even the right decision can bring new challenges. Key Highlights: Shutting Down or Doubling Down: The pivotal question every entrepreneur faces when their business stalls. Fighting Churn: Strategies Nathan used to reduce churn, including shifting customers to annual plans. The Power of Direct Sales: Why doing things that don’t scale—like concierge migrations—helped build momentum early on. Rebranding and SEO Challenges: How transitioning to kit.com presented unique hurdles and opportunities. The Importance of Execution: Why Nathan built a habit of writing 1,000 words a day for 600 days—and how it fueled his entrepreneurial success. This episode is literally packed with valuable insights for anyone navigating the ups and downs of scaling a business. Tune in to learn practical strategies for growing your audience, retaining customers, and staying focused on what matters most. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Shut It Down or Double Down: Nathan Barry’s Road to $45M with Kit (ConvertKit) full 3 49 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Nathan Barry, the creator behind ConvertKit (now rebranded as Kit) came to visit my Inner Circle and gave a very special presentation. Nathan’s journey from a designer to building a software empire fascinated me. He originally tried to solve his frustrations with MailChimp and, in doing so, founded a business that today generates $45 million annually. In this episode, Nathan and I unpack the lessons he’s learned from building and scaling ConvertKit to rebranding it into something bigger. He offers transparent insights into the challenges of entrepreneurship, including the crucial moments when you have to either shut down or double down. Throughout the conversation, Nathan opens up about the turning points that shaped his business. From battling churn to leveraging direct sales in the early days, he shares how a relentless focus on product quality and customer experience laid the foundation for his success. He also discusses his decision to turn down a $200 million acquisition offer and the ripple effects it had on his executive team—proving that even the right decision can bring new challenges. Key Highlights: Shutting Down or Doubling Down: The pivotal question every entrepreneur faces when their business stalls. Fighting Churn: Strategies Nathan used to reduce churn, including shifting customers to annual plans. The Power of Direct Sales: Why doing things that don’t scale—like concierge migrations—helped build momentum early on. Rebranding and SEO Challenges: How transitioning to kit.com presented unique hurdles and opportunities. The Importance of Execution: Why Nathan built a habit of writing 1,000 words a day for 600 days—and how it fueled his entrepreneurial success. This episode is literally packed with valuable insights for anyone navigating the ups and downs of scaling a business. Tune in to learn practical strategies for growing your audience, retaining customers, and staying focused on what matters most. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Nathan Barry, the creator behind ConvertKit (now rebranded as Kit) came to visit my Inner Circle and gave a very special presentation. Nathan’s journey from a designer to building a software empire fascinated me. He originally tried to solve his frustrations with MailChimp and, in doing so, founded a business that today generates $45 million annually.

In this episode, Nathan and I unpack the lessons he’s learned from building and scaling ConvertKit to rebranding it into something bigger. He offers transparent insights into the challenges of entrepreneurship, including the crucial moments when you have to either shut down or double down.

Throughout the conversation, Nathan opens up about the turning points that shaped his business. From battling churn to leveraging direct sales in the early days, he shares how a relentless focus on product quality and customer experience laid the foundation for his success. He also discusses his decision to turn down a $200 million acquisition offer and the ripple effects it had on his executive team—proving that even the right decision can bring new challenges.

Key Highlights:

  • Shutting Down or Doubling Down: The pivotal question every entrepreneur faces when their business stalls.
  • Fighting Churn: Strategies Nathan used to reduce churn, including shifting customers to annual plans.
  • The Power of Direct Sales: Why doing things that don’t scale—like concierge migrations—helped build momentum early on.
  • Rebranding and SEO Challenges: How transitioning to kit.com presented unique hurdles and opportunities.
  • The Importance of Execution: Why Nathan built a habit of writing 1,000 words a day for 600 days—and how it fueled his entrepreneurial success.

This episode is literally packed with valuable insights for anyone navigating the ups and downs of scaling a business. Tune in to learn practical strategies for growing your audience, retaining customers, and staying focused on what matters most.

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

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]]> 3617 Greed, Growth, and Giving Back: A Deep Dive of “Atlas Shrugged” with Josh Forti (1 of 5) A little while back, I had the opportunity to sit down with Josh Forti for an in-depth discussion about one of the most thought-provoking books I’ve ever read: Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. This wasn’t just your typical business or marketing chat. Josh and I went deep into the themes of personal responsibility, capitalism, government overreach, and the pressures entrepreneurs face when they carry the weight of the world. If you’ve ever felt the strain of growing a business, this conversation will resonate with you. We talked about what happens when the “producers”—those who drive society—decide to walk away and let it all crumble. In this first part of a five-part series, we explore the impact of Rand’s philosophy on business and life, touching on the tension between personal ambition and societal good. We didn’t shy away from controversial subjects, discussing politics, religion, and the complex emotions that come with building something meaningful. I even share how reading this book during a pivotal moment in my life gave me new insight into balancing self-interest and contribution. Key Highlights: Government Regulations vs. Entrepreneurship: How real-world business struggles mirror those in Atlas Shrugged. Capitalism and Self-Interest: Is greed always bad, or does it serve as the starting point for growth and innovation? The Shift from Self-Focus to Impact: My personal journey from focusing on business success to embracing the ripple effect of helping others. Dealing with Pressure: How entrepreneurs manage the crushing weight of expectations, and what it means to "shrug" like Atlas. This is just the beginning of a fascinating series where we unpack big ideas and challenge some deeply held beliefs. Whether you’ve read Atlas Shrugged or not, I promise this conversation will spark new thoughts and perspectives on how to approach life and business. Tune in and join us on this journey of exploration! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Oct 2024 08:00:00 -0000 Greed, Growth, and Giving Back: A Deep Dive of “Atlas Shrugged” with Josh Forti (1 of 5) full 3 48 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A little while back, I had the opportunity to sit down with Josh Forti for an in-depth discussion about one of the most thought-provoking books I’ve ever read: Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. This wasn’t just your typical business or marketing chat. Josh and I went deep into the themes of personal responsibility, capitalism, government overreach, and the pressures entrepreneurs face when they carry the weight of the world. If you’ve ever felt the strain of growing a business, this conversation will resonate with you. We talked about what happens when the “producers”—those who drive society—decide to walk away and let it all crumble. In this first part of a five-part series, we explore the impact of Rand’s philosophy on business and life, touching on the tension between personal ambition and societal good. We didn’t shy away from controversial subjects, discussing politics, religion, and the complex emotions that come with building something meaningful. I even share how reading this book during a pivotal moment in my life gave me new insight into balancing self-interest and contribution. Key Highlights: Government Regulations vs. Entrepreneurship: How real-world business struggles mirror those in Atlas Shrugged. Capitalism and Self-Interest: Is greed always bad, or does it serve as the starting point for growth and innovation? The Shift from Self-Focus to Impact: My personal journey from focusing on business success to embracing the ripple effect of helping others. Dealing with Pressure: How entrepreneurs manage the crushing weight of expectations, and what it means to "shrug" like Atlas. This is just the beginning of a fascinating series where we unpack big ideas and challenge some deeply held beliefs. Whether you’ve read Atlas Shrugged or not, I promise this conversation will spark new thoughts and perspectives on how to approach life and business. Tune in and join us on this journey of exploration! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A little while back, I had the opportunity to sit down with Josh Forti for an in-depth discussion about one of the most thought-provoking books I’ve ever read: Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. This wasn’t just your typical business or marketing chat. Josh and I went deep into the themes of personal responsibility, capitalism, government overreach, and the pressures entrepreneurs face when they carry the weight of the world. If you’ve ever felt the strain of growing a business, this conversation will resonate with you. We talked about what happens when the “producers”—those who drive society—decide to walk away and let it all crumble.

In this first part of a five-part series, we explore the impact of Rand’s philosophy on business and life, touching on the tension between personal ambition and societal good. We didn’t shy away from controversial subjects, discussing politics, religion, and the complex emotions that come with building something meaningful. I even share how reading this book during a pivotal moment in my life gave me new insight into balancing self-interest and contribution.

Key Highlights:

  • Government Regulations vs. Entrepreneurship: How real-world business struggles mirror those in Atlas Shrugged.
  • Capitalism and Self-Interest: Is greed always bad, or does it serve as the starting point for growth and innovation?
  • The Shift from Self-Focus to Impact: My personal journey from focusing on business success to embracing the ripple effect of helping others.
  • Dealing with Pressure: How entrepreneurs manage the crushing weight of expectations, and what it means to "shrug" like Atlas.

This is just the beginning of a fascinating series where we unpack big ideas and challenge some deeply held beliefs. Whether you’ve read Atlas Shrugged or not, I promise this conversation will spark new thoughts and perspectives on how to approach life and business. Tune in and join us on this journey of exploration!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

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]]> 2703 The Podcast Playbook: Hala Taha on Podcast Growth, Monetization & LinkedIn Strategies I had an amazing conversation with Hala Taha, someone who has not only been instrumental in running my podcast but has also completely transformed the way I think about podcasting as a business. We dive deep into her journey from working in radio and starting her own blog to creating the hugely successful Young and Profiting Podcast and founding YAP Media. Hala taught me how to grow, monetize, and structure a podcast, changing my podcast from a fun hobby into a thriving business. If you've ever wanted to take your podcast to the next level or even start one, you’ll want to hear what Hala has to say! During our chat, we also covered how Hala is one of the few people I know successfully using LinkedIn to drive massive traffic and grow a business. By the end of our conversation, I was so impressed that I was ready to hire her and her team to run my LinkedIn strategy. Hear not only how to run and scale a podcast but also how to leverage LinkedIn to increase visibility and connect with your audience in powerful ways. Key Highlights: How to structure a podcast for growth and monetization Strategies for selling ads on podcasts and maximizing your revenue Using LinkedIn as a business tool to grow your network and drive traffic The power of consistency and audience engagement in podcasting Creative ways to recruit volunteers and build a team around your podcast Whether you're just getting started or looking to level up your podcast and LinkedIn game, this episode is packed with insights and actionable strategies! Tune in to discover how Hala has taken my podcast and LinkedIn strategy to new heights! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Podcast Playbook: Hala Taha on Podcast Growth, Monetization & LinkedIn Strategies full 3 46 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I had an amazing conversation with Hala Taha, someone who has not only been instrumental in running my podcast but has also completely transformed the way I think about podcasting as a business. We dive deep into her journey from working in radio and starting her own blog to creating the hugely successful Young and Profiting Podcast and founding YAP Media. Hala taught me how to grow, monetize, and structure a podcast, changing my podcast from a fun hobby into a thriving business. If you've ever wanted to take your podcast to the next level or even start one, you’ll want to hear what Hala has to say! During our chat, we also covered how Hala is one of the few people I know successfully using LinkedIn to drive massive traffic and grow a business. By the end of our conversation, I was so impressed that I was ready to hire her and her team to run my LinkedIn strategy. Hear not only how to run and scale a podcast but also how to leverage LinkedIn to increase visibility and connect with your audience in powerful ways. Key Highlights: How to structure a podcast for growth and monetization Strategies for selling ads on podcasts and maximizing your revenue Using LinkedIn as a business tool to grow your network and drive traffic The power of consistency and audience engagement in podcasting Creative ways to recruit volunteers and build a team around your podcast Whether you're just getting started or looking to level up your podcast and LinkedIn game, this episode is packed with insights and actionable strategies! Tune in to discover how Hala has taken my podcast and LinkedIn strategy to new heights! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I had an amazing conversation with Hala Taha, someone who has not only been instrumental in running my podcast but has also completely transformed the way I think about podcasting as a business.

We dive deep into her journey from working in radio and starting her own blog to creating the hugely successful Young and Profiting Podcast and founding YAP Media. Hala taught me how to grow, monetize, and structure a podcast, changing my podcast from a fun hobby into a thriving business. If you've ever wanted to take your podcast to the next level or even start one, you’ll want to hear what Hala has to say!

During our chat, we also covered how Hala is one of the few people I know successfully using LinkedIn to drive massive traffic and grow a business. By the end of our conversation, I was so impressed that I was ready to hire her and her team to run my LinkedIn strategy. Hear not only how to run and scale a podcast but also how to leverage LinkedIn to increase visibility and connect with your audience in powerful ways.

Key Highlights:

  • How to structure a podcast for growth and monetization
  • Strategies for selling ads on podcasts and maximizing your revenue
  • Using LinkedIn as a business tool to grow your network and drive traffic
  • The power of consistency and audience engagement in podcasting
  • Creative ways to recruit volunteers and build a team around your podcast

Whether you're just getting started or looking to level up your podcast and LinkedIn game, this episode is packed with insights and actionable strategies! Tune in to discover how Hala has taken my podcast and LinkedIn strategy to new heights!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

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]]> 3590 Extreme Ownership: The Ultimate Key to Entrepreneurial Growth On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I revisit the topic of Extreme Ownership—a principle that has shaped not only my business but also how I approach every challenge that comes my way. In this return episode, I share an interaction I had with someone in our community who was struggling to get traction with her business and explain why it’s critical to take full responsibility for your own success. It’s not about placing blame or looking for others to solve your problems; it’s about owning your journey and being willing to push through the discomfort and setbacks. Throughout the episode, I break down why relying on others, whether it’s a coaching program or a mentor, to deliver success is a recipe for failure. Instead, I emphasize the need to shift the focus back to yourself and the actions you’re taking—or not taking—to move forward. I reflect on my own early struggles and share how consistently putting myself out there, whether it was on a stage or through webinars, was the only way I built the skills and confidence needed to succeed. This is the same mindset that can help anyone listening to break through the barriers holding them back. Key Highlights: Taking Extreme Ownership: How to stop relying on external sources for success and start taking 100% responsibility for your results. The Power of Repetition: Why your first attempts might suck, and that’s okay—keep iterating and refining until you get it right. Proven Business Models: Why sticking to what’s been proven to work is far more effective than trying to reinvent the wheel. Mindset Shifts for Success: Why changing how you phrase things can make or break your business journey. This episode is from a few years ago, so I may make a few dated references, but overall, the message still rings true. If you’re struggling to make progress, this episode is for you. Tune in to hear more about how owning your role and taking charge can transform your business and personal growth. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 09 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Extreme Ownership: The Ultimate Key to Entrepreneurial Growth full 3 46 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I revisit the topic of Extreme Ownership—a principle that has shaped not only my business but also how I approach every challenge that comes my way. In this return episode, I share an interaction I had with someone in our community who was struggling to get traction with her business and explain why it’s critical to take full responsibility for your own success. It’s not about placing blame or looking for others to solve your problems; it’s about owning your journey and being willing to push through the discomfort and setbacks. Throughout the episode, I break down why relying on others, whether it’s a coaching program or a mentor, to deliver success is a recipe for failure. Instead, I emphasize the need to shift the focus back to yourself and the actions you’re taking—or not taking—to move forward. I reflect on my own early struggles and share how consistently putting myself out there, whether it was on a stage or through webinars, was the only way I built the skills and confidence needed to succeed. This is the same mindset that can help anyone listening to break through the barriers holding them back. Key Highlights: Taking Extreme Ownership: How to stop relying on external sources for success and start taking 100% responsibility for your results. The Power of Repetition: Why your first attempts might suck, and that’s okay—keep iterating and refining until you get it right. Proven Business Models: Why sticking to what’s been proven to work is far more effective than trying to reinvent the wheel. Mindset Shifts for Success: Why changing how you phrase things can make or break your business journey. This episode is from a few years ago, so I may make a few dated references, but overall, the message still rings true. If you’re struggling to make progress, this episode is for you. Tune in to hear more about how owning your role and taking charge can transform your business and personal growth. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I revisit the topic of Extreme Ownership—a principle that has shaped not only my business but also how I approach every challenge that comes my way. In this return episode, I share an interaction I had with someone in our community who was struggling to get traction with her business and explain why it’s critical to take full responsibility for your own success. It’s not about placing blame or looking for others to solve your problems; it’s about owning your journey and being willing to push through the discomfort and setbacks.

Throughout the episode, I break down why relying on others, whether it’s a coaching program or a mentor, to deliver success is a recipe for failure. Instead, I emphasize the need to shift the focus back to yourself and the actions you’re taking—or not taking—to move forward. I reflect on my own early struggles and share how consistently putting myself out there, whether it was on a stage or through webinars, was the only way I built the skills and confidence needed to succeed. This is the same mindset that can help anyone listening to break through the barriers holding them back.

Key Highlights:

  • Taking Extreme Ownership: How to stop relying on external sources for success and start taking 100% responsibility for your results.
  • The Power of Repetition: Why your first attempts might suck, and that’s okay—keep iterating and refining until you get it right.
  • Proven Business Models: Why sticking to what’s been proven to work is far more effective than trying to reinvent the wheel.
  • Mindset Shifts for Success: Why changing how you phrase things can make or break your business journey.

This episode is from a few years ago, so I may make a few dated references, but overall, the message still rings true. If you’re struggling to make progress, this episode is for you. Tune in to hear more about how owning your role and taking charge can transform your business and personal growth.

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

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]]> 2044 From 10K to 10 Million Views: Brendan Kane’s Blueprint for Social Media Dominance In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Brendan Kane, a social media strategist, author, and expert in crafting viral content. Brendan has built a career helping brands and individuals achieve massive social media success. He’s the author of several books, including One Million Followers, Hook Point, and his latest work, The Guide to Going Viral. Brendan was in Boise to spend time with my team, helping us refine our social media strategy, so I took the opportunity to pick his brain and share his insights with you. During our conversation, Brendan shared his unique approach to social media strategy, which he’s used to generate over 60 billion views and 100 million followers across various platforms. We dive into the importance of choosing the right content format, understanding the contextual elements that drive engagement, and how to avoid the pitfalls that many people face when creating content for Instagram, YouTube, or other platforms. Whether you’re looking to get your first 10,000 followers or aiming for millions, the strategies Brendan shares can be applied at any level to enhance your social media presence. Key Highlights: Understanding Content Formats: Brendan explains how choosing and mastering the right format for your content is essential for consistent performance. Analyzing Performance Drivers: Learn the key factors that make some videos achieve millions of views while others get lost in the feed. Effective Use of Calls-to-Action: Discover when and how to incorporate calls-to-action within your content to increase conversions without sacrificing engagement. Adapting to Different Platforms: How to adjust your strategies for Instagram versus TikTok and YouTube for maximum impact. Maximizing Organic Reach: Tips on using paid promotion to extend the reach of your best-performing content. If you’re serious about taking your social media strategy to the next level, you won’t want to miss this deep dive with Brendan Kane. Tune in to learn how to break through the noise and build a truly engaging social media presence. Free Download - The Guide to Going Viral: https://hookpoint.com/russell Hook Point Website: https://goingviral.cc/russell Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0000 From 10K to 10 Million Views: Brendan Kane’s Blueprint for Social Media Dominance full 3 45 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Brendan Kane, a social media strategist, author, and expert in crafting viral content. Brendan has built a career helping brands and individuals achieve massive social media success. He’s the author of several books, including One Million Followers, Hook Point, and his latest work, The Guide to Going Viral. Brendan was in Boise to spend time with my team, helping us refine our social media strategy, so I took the opportunity to pick his brain and share his insights with you. During our conversation, Brendan shared his unique approach to social media strategy, which he’s used to generate over 60 billion views and 100 million followers across various platforms. We dive into the importance of choosing the right content format, understanding the contextual elements that drive engagement, and how to avoid the pitfalls that many people face when creating content for Instagram, YouTube, or other platforms. Whether you’re looking to get your first 10,000 followers or aiming for millions, the strategies Brendan shares can be applied at any level to enhance your social media presence. Key Highlights: Understanding Content Formats: Brendan explains how choosing and mastering the right format for your content is essential for consistent performance. Analyzing Performance Drivers: Learn the key factors that make some videos achieve millions of views while others get lost in the feed. Effective Use of Calls-to-Action: Discover when and how to incorporate calls-to-action within your content to increase conversions without sacrificing engagement. Adapting to Different Platforms: How to adjust your strategies for Instagram versus TikTok and YouTube for maximum impact. Maximizing Organic Reach: Tips on using paid promotion to extend the reach of your best-performing content. If you’re serious about taking your social media strategy to the next level, you won’t want to miss this deep dive with Brendan Kane. Tune in to learn how to break through the noise and build a truly engaging social media presence. Free Download - The Guide to Going Viral: https://hookpoint.com/russell Hook Point Website: https://goingviral.cc/russell Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Brendan Kane, a social media strategist, author, and expert in crafting viral content. Brendan has built a career helping brands and individuals achieve massive social media success. He’s the author of several books, including One Million Followers, Hook Point, and his latest work, The Guide to Going Viral. Brendan was in Boise to spend time with my team, helping us refine our social media strategy, so I took the opportunity to pick his brain and share his insights with you.

During our conversation, Brendan shared his unique approach to social media strategy, which he’s used to generate over 60 billion views and 100 million followers across various platforms. We dive into the importance of choosing the right content format, understanding the contextual elements that drive engagement, and how to avoid the pitfalls that many people face when creating content for Instagram, YouTube, or other platforms. Whether you’re looking to get your first 10,000 followers or aiming for millions, the strategies Brendan shares can be applied at any level to enhance your social media presence.

Key Highlights:

  • Understanding Content Formats: Brendan explains how choosing and mastering the right format for your content is essential for consistent performance.
  • Analyzing Performance Drivers: Learn the key factors that make some videos achieve millions of views while others get lost in the feed.
  • Effective Use of Calls-to-Action: Discover when and how to incorporate calls-to-action within your content to increase conversions without sacrificing engagement.
  • Adapting to Different Platforms: How to adjust your strategies for Instagram versus TikTok and YouTube for maximum impact.
  • Maximizing Organic Reach: Tips on using paid promotion to extend the reach of your best-performing content.

If you’re serious about taking your social media strategy to the next level, you won’t want to miss this deep dive with Brendan Kane. Tune in to learn how to break through the noise and build a truly engaging social media presence.

Free Download - The Guide to Going Viral: https://hookpoint.com/russell

Hook Point Website: https://goingviral.cc/russell

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

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]]> 3459 Mastering the Hook, Story, Offer Framework: The Key to Funnel Success On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of the most transformative concepts in the marketing world—Hook, Story, Offer. This is something I stumbled upon unexpectedly, and it has since become the foundational framework for all my funnels, ads, and landing pages. It’s not just a catchy phrase; it’s the answer to why businesses succeed or fail. When you break it down, if there’s an issue in your funnel, it’s always related to either the hook, the story, or the offer. After testing and refining this concept, I realized it was the key to everything and included it in all three of my major books—DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets. In this episode, I share the very first presentation I gave on this concept at Funnel Hacking Live, where I explained how mastering this framework can transform your business. We cover everything from why your hooks are crucial for grabbing attention to how your story connects with your audience, and finally, how to craft an irresistible offer that drives conversions. If you understand and master these three elements, you can create funnels that not only work but thrive. Key Highlights: Understanding the Framework: Learn why every problem in your funnel can be traced back to your hook, story, or offer. Crafting Compelling Hooks: How to use hooks to capture attention and stand out in a crowded marketplace. Perfecting Your Story: Discover why storytelling is the most powerful tool to change beliefs and inspire action. Creating Irresistible Offers: Get insights into bundling products and adding value, so your offers become impossible to refuse. Whether you're struggling with low conversion rates or just looking to take your funnel to the next level, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you diagnose and fix any issues. Tune in to learn how to become a master of the Hook, Story, Offer framework and revolutionize your marketing strategy! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Mastering the Hook, Story, Offer Framework: The Key to Funnel Success full 3 44 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of the most transformative concepts in the marketing world—Hook, Story, Offer. This is something I stumbled upon unexpectedly, and it has since become the foundational framework for all my funnels, ads, and landing pages. It’s not just a catchy phrase; it’s the answer to why businesses succeed or fail. When you break it down, if there’s an issue in your funnel, it’s always related to either the hook, the story, or the offer. After testing and refining this concept, I realized it was the key to everything and included it in all three of my major books—DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets. In this episode, I share the very first presentation I gave on this concept at Funnel Hacking Live, where I explained how mastering this framework can transform your business. We cover everything from why your hooks are crucial for grabbing attention to how your story connects with your audience, and finally, how to craft an irresistible offer that drives conversions. If you understand and master these three elements, you can create funnels that not only work but thrive. Key Highlights: Understanding the Framework: Learn why every problem in your funnel can be traced back to your hook, story, or offer. Crafting Compelling Hooks: How to use hooks to capture attention and stand out in a crowded marketplace. Perfecting Your Story: Discover why storytelling is the most powerful tool to change beliefs and inspire action. Creating Irresistible Offers: Get insights into bundling products and adding value, so your offers become impossible to refuse. Whether you're struggling with low conversion rates or just looking to take your funnel to the next level, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you diagnose and fix any issues. Tune in to learn how to become a master of the Hook, Story, Offer framework and revolutionize your marketing strategy! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of the most transformative concepts in the marketing world—Hook, Story, Offer. This is something I stumbled upon unexpectedly, and it has since become the foundational framework for all my funnels, ads, and landing pages. It’s not just a catchy phrase; it’s the answer to why businesses succeed or fail. When you break it down, if there’s an issue in your funnel, it’s always related to either the hook, the story, or the offer. After testing and refining this concept, I realized it was the key to everything and included it in all three of my major books—DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets.

In this episode, I share the very first presentation I gave on this concept at Funnel Hacking Live, where I explained how mastering this framework can transform your business. We cover everything from why your hooks are crucial for grabbing attention to how your story connects with your audience, and finally, how to craft an irresistible offer that drives conversions. If you understand and master these three elements, you can create funnels that not only work but thrive.

Key Highlights:

  • Understanding the Framework: Learn why every problem in your funnel can be traced back to your hook, story, or offer.
  • Crafting Compelling Hooks: How to use hooks to capture attention and stand out in a crowded marketplace.
  • Perfecting Your Story: Discover why storytelling is the most powerful tool to change beliefs and inspire action.
  • Creating Irresistible Offers: Get insights into bundling products and adding value, so your offers become impossible to refuse.

Whether you're struggling with low conversion rates or just looking to take your funnel to the next level, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you diagnose and fix any issues. Tune in to learn how to become a master of the Hook, Story, Offer framework and revolutionize your marketing strategy!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 5132 The Six Types of Working Genius with Patrick Lencioni On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the honor of interviewing someone whose work has shaped how I lead my team and build my business—Patrick Lencioni. Patrick is the author of "The Five Dysfunctions of a Team" and a pioneer in leadership and organizational health. For nearly two decades, I've been following his insights on creating functional, high-performing teams. So, when he released his new assessment tool called "The Six Types of Working Genius," I knew I had to dive in and see how it could help our community. In this conversation, we delve deep into the Working Genius framework and how it revolutionizes the way you build and manage teams. Patrick explains how understanding your team's individual strengths and weaknesses can optimize productivity, increase job satisfaction, and ultimately drive your business forward. He shares how this new assessment is different from other personality tools—like Myers-Briggs and DISC—by focusing on productivity rather than just personality, making it ideal for entrepreneurs and leaders who want to get the most out of their teams. Key Highlights: The Six Types of Working Genius: Learn about the six areas where people excel—Wonder, Invention, Discernment, Galvanizing, Enablement, and Tenacity—and how these can help you place the right people in the right roles. Team Dynamics and Productivity: Discover how to build balanced teams by identifying gaps in your team's working genius and leveraging complementary skills. Practical Application: Patrick shares real-world examples of businesses transforming their productivity by using the Working Genius model, emphasizing the power of aligning tasks with people's innate strengths. Whether you’re just starting to build your team or looking to refine how your current team works together, this episode provides actionable strategies for creating a happier, more productive work environment. Tune in and find out how to put the right people in the right seats on your company’s bus! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Six Types of Working Genius with Patrick Lencioni full 3 43 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the honor of interviewing someone whose work has shaped how I lead my team and build my business—Patrick Lencioni. Patrick is the author of "The Five Dysfunctions of a Team" and a pioneer in leadership and organizational health. For nearly two decades, I've been following his insights on creating functional, high-performing teams. So, when he released his new assessment tool called "The Six Types of Working Genius," I knew I had to dive in and see how it could help our community. In this conversation, we delve deep into the Working Genius framework and how it revolutionizes the way you build and manage teams. Patrick explains how understanding your team's individual strengths and weaknesses can optimize productivity, increase job satisfaction, and ultimately drive your business forward. He shares how this new assessment is different from other personality tools—like Myers-Briggs and DISC—by focusing on productivity rather than just personality, making it ideal for entrepreneurs and leaders who want to get the most out of their teams. Key Highlights: The Six Types of Working Genius: Learn about the six areas where people excel—Wonder, Invention, Discernment, Galvanizing, Enablement, and Tenacity—and how these can help you place the right people in the right roles. Team Dynamics and Productivity: Discover how to build balanced teams by identifying gaps in your team's working genius and leveraging complementary skills. Practical Application: Patrick shares real-world examples of businesses transforming their productivity by using the Working Genius model, emphasizing the power of aligning tasks with people's innate strengths. Whether you’re just starting to build your team or looking to refine how your current team works together, this episode provides actionable strategies for creating a happier, more productive work environment. Tune in and find out how to put the right people in the right seats on your company’s bus! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the honor of interviewing someone whose work has shaped how I lead my team and build my business—Patrick Lencioni. Patrick is the author of "The Five Dysfunctions of a Team" and a pioneer in leadership and organizational health. For nearly two decades, I've been following his insights on creating functional, high-performing teams. So, when he released his new assessment tool called "The Six Types of Working Genius," I knew I had to dive in and see how it could help our community.

In this conversation, we delve deep into the Working Genius framework and how it revolutionizes the way you build and manage teams. Patrick explains how understanding your team's individual strengths and weaknesses can optimize productivity, increase job satisfaction, and ultimately drive your business forward. He shares how this new assessment is different from other personality tools—like Myers-Briggs and DISC—by focusing on productivity rather than just personality, making it ideal for entrepreneurs and leaders who want to get the most out of their teams.

Key Highlights:

  • The Six Types of Working Genius: Learn about the six areas where people excel—Wonder, Invention, Discernment, Galvanizing, Enablement, and Tenacity—and how these can help you place the right people in the right roles.
  • Team Dynamics and Productivity: Discover how to build balanced teams by identifying gaps in your team's working genius and leveraging complementary skills.
  • Practical Application: Patrick shares real-world examples of businesses transforming their productivity by using the Working Genius model, emphasizing the power of aligning tasks with people's innate strengths.

Whether you’re just starting to build your team or looking to refine how your current team works together, this episode provides actionable strategies for creating a happier, more productive work environment. Tune in and find out how to put the right people in the right seats on your company’s bus!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

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]]> 3830 2x Your Business Coaching Session with Ali Abdaal When was the last time you got to be a fly on the wall for a live coaching session? Ali Abdaal recently interviewed me for his podcast & YouTube channel where I dive into a powerful business coaching session for his business! In this unique and public coaching session, we explore the complexities of scaling a $5 million business to $10 million while detaching the revenue stream from the founder's direct involvement. This conversation delves deep into the balance of leveraging personal branding for growth and making your business self-sustaining by building strong value ladders and evergreen strategies. Throughout the session, Ali and I tackle the challenge of turning sporadic launches into consistent revenue streams without losing personal freedom. We explore how to take successful live launches and transition them into evergreen funnels that can continuously bring in sales. You'll hear my take on solving "math problems" (like optimizing funnels and conversion rates) versus "drama problems" (psychological barriers that prevent scaling), and why getting clarity on these distinctions can unlock exponential growth. Key Highlights: Transitioning from live cohorts to evergreen courses: Best practices to maintain high engagement and profitability. The power of a well-structured value ladder: Offering high-value courses and coaching without burnout. Scaling from $5 million to $10 million: Strategies to double revenue while reducing direct involvement. Math vs. Drama: How solving psychological barriers can accelerate business growth. Creating effective ads and webinars: Tactics for converting organic and paid traffic. Tune in to gain insights on creating a scalable business that frees up your time while continuing to grow your revenue! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets And if you're interested in joining my Inner Circle, check it out here: https://innercircleforlife.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0000 2x Your Business Coaching Session with Ali Abdaal full 3 42 Russell Brunson | YAP Media When was the last time you got to be a fly on the wall for a live coaching session? Ali Abdaal recently interviewed me for his podcast & YouTube channel where I dive into a powerful business coaching session for his business! In this unique and public coaching session, we explore the complexities of scaling a $5 million business to $10 million while detaching the revenue stream from the founder's direct involvement. This conversation delves deep into the balance of leveraging personal branding for growth and making your business self-sustaining by building strong value ladders and evergreen strategies. Throughout the session, Ali and I tackle the challenge of turning sporadic launches into consistent revenue streams without losing personal freedom. We explore how to take successful live launches and transition them into evergreen funnels that can continuously bring in sales. You'll hear my take on solving "math problems" (like optimizing funnels and conversion rates) versus "drama problems" (psychological barriers that prevent scaling), and why getting clarity on these distinctions can unlock exponential growth. Key Highlights: Transitioning from live cohorts to evergreen courses: Best practices to maintain high engagement and profitability. The power of a well-structured value ladder: Offering high-value courses and coaching without burnout. Scaling from $5 million to $10 million: Strategies to double revenue while reducing direct involvement. Math vs. Drama: How solving psychological barriers can accelerate business growth. Creating effective ads and webinars: Tactics for converting organic and paid traffic. Tune in to gain insights on creating a scalable business that frees up your time while continuing to grow your revenue! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets And if you're interested in joining my Inner Circle, check it out here: https://innercircleforlife.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices When was the last time you got to be a fly on the wall for a live coaching session? Ali Abdaal recently interviewed me for his podcast & YouTube channel where I dive into a powerful business coaching session for his business!

In this unique and public coaching session, we explore the complexities of scaling a $5 million business to $10 million while detaching the revenue stream from the founder's direct involvement. This conversation delves deep into the balance of leveraging personal branding for growth and making your business self-sustaining by building strong value ladders and evergreen strategies.

Throughout the session, Ali and I tackle the challenge of turning sporadic launches into consistent revenue streams without losing personal freedom. We explore how to take successful live launches and transition them into evergreen funnels that can continuously bring in sales. You'll hear my take on solving "math problems" (like optimizing funnels and conversion rates) versus "drama problems" (psychological barriers that prevent scaling), and why getting clarity on these distinctions can unlock exponential growth.

Key Highlights:

  • Transitioning from live cohorts to evergreen courses: Best practices to maintain high engagement and profitability.
  • The power of a well-structured value ladder: Offering high-value courses and coaching without burnout.
  • Scaling from $5 million to $10 million: Strategies to double revenue while reducing direct involvement.
  • Math vs. Drama: How solving psychological barriers can accelerate business growth.
  • Creating effective ads and webinars: Tactics for converting organic and paid traffic.

Tune in to gain insights on creating a scalable business that frees up your time while continuing to grow your revenue!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets

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]]> 3835 Mastering Entrepreneurship: Napoleon Hill’s 10 Timeless Lessons In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the incredible opportunity to dive into some rarely discussed entrepreneurial strategies of Napoleon Hill. Most people know Hill for his personal development principles in Think and Grow Rich, but what many don't realize is that he was also a master entrepreneur. I recently spent time immersing myself in Hill's old manuscripts, uncovering 10 specific things he did that directly relate to how we, as entrepreneurs, can build and scale our businesses. In this episode, I break down the importance of telling your origin story repeatedly, how to build a core philosophy for your business, and the crucial role of promotion and partnerships. Hill’s journey wasn’t just about success principles — he was a student of marketing and advertising and used these skills to push his message to the masses. These lessons are timeless and still apply to entrepreneurs today, helping us shape our businesses in ways that stand the test of time. Key Highlights: Telling your origin story: How Napoleon Hill used storytelling to grow his influence and why it’s crucial for entrepreneurs. Building a core framework: Learn how Hill gathered and created his success philosophy, and how you can do the same for your business. The importance of promotion: Discover how Hill mastered advertising to spread his message, and why marketing is just as important as your product. Partnerships and legacy: Insights into Hill’s partnership with W. Clement Stone and how to set up a legacy for your business to last beyond your lifetime. Tune in to discover how to apply these principles to your entrepreneurial journey! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Mastering Entrepreneurship: Napoleon Hill’s 10 Timeless Lessons full 3 41 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the incredible opportunity to dive into some rarely discussed entrepreneurial strategies of Napoleon Hill. Most people know Hill for his personal development principles in Think and Grow Rich, but what many don't realize is that he was also a master entrepreneur. I recently spent time immersing myself in Hill's old manuscripts, uncovering 10 specific things he did that directly relate to how we, as entrepreneurs, can build and scale our businesses. In this episode, I break down the importance of telling your origin story repeatedly, how to build a core philosophy for your business, and the crucial role of promotion and partnerships. Hill’s journey wasn’t just about success principles — he was a student of marketing and advertising and used these skills to push his message to the masses. These lessons are timeless and still apply to entrepreneurs today, helping us shape our businesses in ways that stand the test of time. Key Highlights: Telling your origin story: How Napoleon Hill used storytelling to grow his influence and why it’s crucial for entrepreneurs. Building a core framework: Learn how Hill gathered and created his success philosophy, and how you can do the same for your business. The importance of promotion: Discover how Hill mastered advertising to spread his message, and why marketing is just as important as your product. Partnerships and legacy: Insights into Hill’s partnership with W. Clement Stone and how to set up a legacy for your business to last beyond your lifetime. Tune in to discover how to apply these principles to your entrepreneurial journey! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the incredible opportunity to dive into some rarely discussed entrepreneurial strategies of Napoleon Hill. Most people know Hill for his personal development principles in Think and Grow Rich, but what many don't realize is that he was also a master entrepreneur. I recently spent time immersing myself in Hill's old manuscripts, uncovering 10 specific things he did that directly relate to how we, as entrepreneurs, can build and scale our businesses.

In this episode, I break down the importance of telling your origin story repeatedly, how to build a core philosophy for your business, and the crucial role of promotion and partnerships. Hill’s journey wasn’t just about success principles — he was a student of marketing and advertising and used these skills to push his message to the masses. These lessons are timeless and still apply to entrepreneurs today, helping us shape our businesses in ways that stand the test of time.

Key Highlights:

  • Telling your origin story: How Napoleon Hill used storytelling to grow his influence and why it’s crucial for entrepreneurs.
  • Building a core framework: Learn how Hill gathered and created his success philosophy, and how you can do the same for your business.
  • The importance of promotion: Discover how Hill mastered advertising to spread his message, and why marketing is just as important as your product.
  • Partnerships and legacy: Insights into Hill’s partnership with W. Clement Stone and how to set up a legacy for your business to last beyond your lifetime.

Tune in to discover how to apply these principles to your entrepreneurial journey!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

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]]> 3397 Advanced Scaling Tactics: Building Partnerships and Optimizing Your Funnel In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I share with you another segment from the Selling Online Event, where I had the pleasure of interacting with a range of entrepreneurs at different stages of their business journeys. From building mentorship programs to selling books to libraries, this episode is packed with advice on scaling, making strategic decisions, and optimizing business models. Each question brought forward a unique challenge, and I shared my thoughts on how to approach these situations, offering actionable solutions that apply across various industries. One of the central themes was the importance of creating value through partnerships, whether collaborating with industry leaders or using your platform to attract key players. We discussed effective collaboration models, licensing content, and scaling through community access. Another highlight was how to refine sales funnels, particularly for B2B and high-ticket offerings, where it’s essential to shorten the buying cycle by getting all decision-makers on board for presentations. Key Highlights: Structuring Collaborations: Insights on profit-sharing structures and collaboration models for scaling quickly. Selling to Libraries: Strategies for transitioning from one-on-one sales to one-to-many models. Physical and Digital Product Continuity Models: How to introduce subscription models in seasonal businesses to maintain continuity. This episode is loaded with strategies for growing and optimizing various business models, making it essential for anyone looking to take their business to the next level. Tune in for some actionable takeaways you can start using immediately! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 18 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Advanced Scaling Tactics: Building Partnerships and Optimizing Your Funnel full 3 40 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I share with you another segment from the Selling Online Event, where I had the pleasure of interacting with a range of entrepreneurs at different stages of their business journeys. From building mentorship programs to selling books to libraries, this episode is packed with advice on scaling, making strategic decisions, and optimizing business models. Each question brought forward a unique challenge, and I shared my thoughts on how to approach these situations, offering actionable solutions that apply across various industries. One of the central themes was the importance of creating value through partnerships, whether collaborating with industry leaders or using your platform to attract key players. We discussed effective collaboration models, licensing content, and scaling through community access. Another highlight was how to refine sales funnels, particularly for B2B and high-ticket offerings, where it’s essential to shorten the buying cycle by getting all decision-makers on board for presentations. Key Highlights: Structuring Collaborations: Insights on profit-sharing structures and collaboration models for scaling quickly. Selling to Libraries: Strategies for transitioning from one-on-one sales to one-to-many models. Physical and Digital Product Continuity Models: How to introduce subscription models in seasonal businesses to maintain continuity. This episode is loaded with strategies for growing and optimizing various business models, making it essential for anyone looking to take their business to the next level. Tune in for some actionable takeaways you can start using immediately! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I share with you another segment from the Selling Online Event, where I had the pleasure of interacting with a range of entrepreneurs at different stages of their business journeys. From building mentorship programs to selling books to libraries, this episode is packed with advice on scaling, making strategic decisions, and optimizing business models. Each question brought forward a unique challenge, and I shared my thoughts on how to approach these situations, offering actionable solutions that apply across various industries.

One of the central themes was the importance of creating value through partnerships, whether collaborating with industry leaders or using your platform to attract key players. We discussed effective collaboration models, licensing content, and scaling through community access. Another highlight was how to refine sales funnels, particularly for B2B and high-ticket offerings, where it’s essential to shorten the buying cycle by getting all decision-makers on board for presentations.

Key Highlights:

  • Structuring Collaborations: Insights on profit-sharing structures and collaboration models for scaling quickly.
  • Selling to Libraries: Strategies for transitioning from one-on-one sales to one-to-many models.
  • Physical and Digital Product Continuity Models: How to introduce subscription models in seasonal businesses to maintain continuity.

This episode is loaded with strategies for growing and optimizing various business models, making it essential for anyone looking to take their business to the next level. Tune in for some actionable takeaways you can start using immediately!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets

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]]> 4176 10 Years of FunnelHacking Secrets At this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE, I took the stage at the very beginning and took the chance to reflect on some pivotal moments from our journey as FunnelHackers over the last 10 years. This year marks the 10th anniversary of ClickFunnels, and I opened the event with a special presentation, giving what a "ClickFunnels State of the Union." Throughout the episode, I touch on key lessons from my entrepreneurial path, including a personal revelation from a quote by Napoleon Hill that transformed my approach to success. I also reminisce about one of the most important moments that shaped my business—an event from 20 years ago that altered my perspective on what’s possible in the world of entrepreneurship. During this episode, I break down how these pivotal experiences can help you define your own path, focusing on a specific quote from Napoleon Hill that emphasizes the power of "definiteness of purpose." Along with this, I share insights on how radical imbalance and burning desire play critical roles in achieving your goals. Key Highlights: Reflections on ClickFunnels’ 10-year journey and the growth of the Funnel Hacking community. The untold part of a famous Napoleon Hill quote and its life-changing impact on my entrepreneurial mindset. The importance of radical imbalance in achieving success, and how to find your “definite purpose.” Behind-the-scenes stories from Funnel Hacking Live, including personal milestones and business updates with Todd Dickerson. This episode is filled with motivational takeaways, actionable advice, and a behind-the-scenes look at the strategies that have driven ClickFunnels' success. Tune in and discover how you can apply these lessons to your own journey! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0000 10 Years of FunnelHacking Secrets full 3 39 Russell Brunson | YAP Media At this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE, I took the stage at the very beginning and took the chance to reflect on some pivotal moments from our journey as FunnelHackers over the last 10 years. This year marks the 10th anniversary of ClickFunnels, and I opened the event with a special presentation, giving what a "ClickFunnels State of the Union." Throughout the episode, I touch on key lessons from my entrepreneurial path, including a personal revelation from a quote by Napoleon Hill that transformed my approach to success. I also reminisce about one of the most important moments that shaped my business—an event from 20 years ago that altered my perspective on what’s possible in the world of entrepreneurship. During this episode, I break down how these pivotal experiences can help you define your own path, focusing on a specific quote from Napoleon Hill that emphasizes the power of "definiteness of purpose." Along with this, I share insights on how radical imbalance and burning desire play critical roles in achieving your goals. Key Highlights: Reflections on ClickFunnels’ 10-year journey and the growth of the Funnel Hacking community. The untold part of a famous Napoleon Hill quote and its life-changing impact on my entrepreneurial mindset. The importance of radical imbalance in achieving success, and how to find your “definite purpose.” Behind-the-scenes stories from Funnel Hacking Live, including personal milestones and business updates with Todd Dickerson. This episode is filled with motivational takeaways, actionable advice, and a behind-the-scenes look at the strategies that have driven ClickFunnels' success. Tune in and discover how you can apply these lessons to your own journey! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices At this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE, I took the stage at the very beginning and took the chance to reflect on some pivotal moments from our journey as FunnelHackers over the last 10 years. This year marks the 10th anniversary of ClickFunnels, and I opened the event with a special presentation, giving what a "ClickFunnels State of the Union." Throughout the episode, I touch on key lessons from my entrepreneurial path, including a personal revelation from a quote by Napoleon Hill that transformed my approach to success.

I also reminisce about one of the most important moments that shaped my business—an event from 20 years ago that altered my perspective on what’s possible in the world of entrepreneurship. During this episode, I break down how these pivotal experiences can help you define your own path, focusing on a specific quote from Napoleon Hill that emphasizes the power of "definiteness of purpose." Along with this, I share insights on how radical imbalance and burning desire play critical roles in achieving your goals.

Key Highlights:

  • Reflections on ClickFunnels’ 10-year journey and the growth of the Funnel Hacking community.
  • The untold part of a famous Napoleon Hill quote and its life-changing impact on my entrepreneurial mindset.
  • The importance of radical imbalance in achieving success, and how to find your “definite purpose.”
  • Behind-the-scenes stories from Funnel Hacking Live, including personal milestones and business updates with Todd Dickerson.

This episode is filled with motivational takeaways, actionable advice, and a behind-the-scenes look at the strategies that have driven ClickFunnels' success. Tune in and discover how you can apply these lessons to your own journey!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Get 70% off on Welch Equities' retail price at wealthyconsultant.com/secrets

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]]> 3555 3 Roles of Business: Entrepreneurs, Technicians, and RainMakers A few years back, I made an episode of Marketing Secrets about becoming a "RainMaker"—someone who brings in leads and drives revenue within a company, ensuring unlimited earning potential. I originally shot this for a friend, but this principle is far too easily forgotten so I wanted to return to it with you. So whether you’re an entrepreneur or technician, this concept is critical for anyone trying to increase their earning potential. I explore the three main roles in any business: the entrepreneur, the technician, and the rainmaker. While technicians are vital for a business's operations, they often have income ceilings, unlike rainmakers, who possess the ability to bring in new customers and generate money. Becoming a rainmaker means you're indispensable, and there are no limits to your income because you're directly responsible for the company's growth. I also dive into the mindset shifts required to make this transformation, whether you're a videographer, doctor, or anything in between. Key highlights: Entrepreneur vs. Technician: Why technicians often have income caps, while entrepreneurs and rain makers have limitless potential. The Role of the Rainmaker: How to shift your focus from perfecting your craft to making money. Becoming Invaluable: Strategies for positioning yourself as a rainmaker within an organization. Immersion & Learning: Why deep learning and surrounding yourself with the right knowledge are key to mastering this skill. Discover how you can take control of your financial future by mastering the art of making it rain in your business or career by tuning in! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0000 3 Roles of Business: Entrepreneurs, Technicians, and RainMakers full 3 38 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A few years back, I made an episode of Marketing Secrets about becoming a "RainMaker"—someone who brings in leads and drives revenue within a company, ensuring unlimited earning potential. I originally shot this for a friend, but this principle is far too easily forgotten so I wanted to return to it with you. So whether you’re an entrepreneur or technician, this concept is critical for anyone trying to increase their earning potential. I explore the three main roles in any business: the entrepreneur, the technician, and the rainmaker. While technicians are vital for a business's operations, they often have income ceilings, unlike rainmakers, who possess the ability to bring in new customers and generate money. Becoming a rainmaker means you're indispensable, and there are no limits to your income because you're directly responsible for the company's growth. I also dive into the mindset shifts required to make this transformation, whether you're a videographer, doctor, or anything in between. Key highlights: Entrepreneur vs. Technician: Why technicians often have income caps, while entrepreneurs and rain makers have limitless potential. The Role of the Rainmaker: How to shift your focus from perfecting your craft to making money. Becoming Invaluable: Strategies for positioning yourself as a rainmaker within an organization. Immersion & Learning: Why deep learning and surrounding yourself with the right knowledge are key to mastering this skill. Discover how you can take control of your financial future by mastering the art of making it rain in your business or career by tuning in! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A few years back, I made an episode of Marketing Secrets about becoming a "RainMaker"—someone who brings in leads and drives revenue within a company, ensuring unlimited earning potential. I originally shot this for a friend, but this principle is far too easily forgotten so I wanted to return to it with you. So whether you’re an entrepreneur or technician, this concept is critical for anyone trying to increase their earning potential.

I explore the three main roles in any business: the entrepreneur, the technician, and the rainmaker. While technicians are vital for a business's operations, they often have income ceilings, unlike rainmakers, who possess the ability to bring in new customers and generate money. Becoming a rainmaker means you're indispensable, and there are no limits to your income because you're directly responsible for the company's growth. I also dive into the mindset shifts required to make this transformation, whether you're a videographer, doctor, or anything in between.

Key highlights:

  • Entrepreneur vs. Technician: Why technicians often have income caps, while entrepreneurs and rain makers have limitless potential.
  • The Role of the Rainmaker: How to shift your focus from perfecting your craft to making money.
  • Becoming Invaluable: Strategies for positioning yourself as a rainmaker within an organization.
  • Immersion & Learning: Why deep learning and surrounding yourself with the right knowledge are key to mastering this skill.

Discover how you can take control of your financial future by mastering the art of making it rain in your business or career by tuning in!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

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]]> 3305 FunnelHacker Evolution (FHL International Keynote) Funnel Hacking LIVE just ended where I spoke multiple times, but I wanted to get my Keynote presentation out to you, titled "FunnelHacker Evolution." This keynote is one of my favorite moments of the event because it gives me a chance to reflect on the journey we've all been on together as FunnelHackers. Over the past decade, we've seen so much growth, both personally and professionally, and I want to do a review of where we've been, where we're going, and how to keep evolving as entrepreneurs in today's marketing landscape. Throughout the presentation, I share some insights into the power of entrepreneurship - how I believe that entrepreneurs, not politicians or big institutions, are the ones who truly change the world. I also discuss the concept of resistance—how it shows up in our lives every day and how overcoming it is key to fulfilling our higher calling. Lastly, I walk the audience through finding their "ikigai," the Japanese term for your reason for being, and how to use that clarity to drive your business forward. Key highlights include: Entrepreneurs On The Hero’s Journey: Why the world needs us to step up and lead through innovation and creation. Overcoming Resistance: How to recognize and defeat resistance, the force that stops you from fulfilling your dreams. Finding Your Ikigai: Understanding the intersection of what you love, what you’re good at, what the world needs, and what you can be paid for. This episode is all about mindset, strategy, and purpose as an entrepreneur and as a #funnelhacker. And if you have any FOMO, here’s a quick taste of everything that was revealed! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0000 FunnelHacker Evolution (FHL International Keynote) full 3 37 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Funnel Hacking LIVE just ended where I spoke multiple times, but I wanted to get my Keynote presentation out to you, titled "FunnelHacker Evolution." This keynote is one of my favorite moments of the event because it gives me a chance to reflect on the journey we've all been on together as FunnelHackers. Over the past decade, we've seen so much growth, both personally and professionally, and I want to do a review of where we've been, where we're going, and how to keep evolving as entrepreneurs in today's marketing landscape. Throughout the presentation, I share some insights into the power of entrepreneurship - how I believe that entrepreneurs, not politicians or big institutions, are the ones who truly change the world. I also discuss the concept of resistance—how it shows up in our lives every day and how overcoming it is key to fulfilling our higher calling. Lastly, I walk the audience through finding their "ikigai," the Japanese term for your reason for being, and how to use that clarity to drive your business forward. Key highlights include: Entrepreneurs On The Hero’s Journey: Why the world needs us to step up and lead through innovation and creation. Overcoming Resistance: How to recognize and defeat resistance, the force that stops you from fulfilling your dreams. Finding Your Ikigai: Understanding the intersection of what you love, what you’re good at, what the world needs, and what you can be paid for. This episode is all about mindset, strategy, and purpose as an entrepreneur and as a #funnelhacker. And if you have any FOMO, here’s a quick taste of everything that was revealed! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Funnel Hacking LIVE just ended where I spoke multiple times, but I wanted to get my Keynote presentation out to you, titled "FunnelHacker Evolution." This keynote is one of my favorite moments of the event because it gives me a chance to reflect on the journey we've all been on together as FunnelHackers. Over the past decade, we've seen so much growth, both personally and professionally, and I want to do a review of where we've been, where we're going, and how to keep evolving as entrepreneurs in today's marketing landscape.

Throughout the presentation, I share some insights into the power of entrepreneurship - how I believe that entrepreneurs, not politicians or big institutions, are the ones who truly change the world. I also discuss the concept of resistance—how it shows up in our lives every day and how overcoming it is key to fulfilling our higher calling. Lastly, I walk the audience through finding their "ikigai," the Japanese term for your reason for being, and how to use that clarity to drive your business forward.

Key highlights include:

  • Entrepreneurs On The Hero’s Journey: Why the world needs us to step up and lead through innovation and creation.
  • Overcoming Resistance: How to recognize and defeat resistance, the force that stops you from fulfilling your dreams.
  • Finding Your Ikigai: Understanding the intersection of what you love, what you’re good at, what the world needs, and what you can be paid for.

This episode is all about mindset, strategy, and purpose as an entrepreneur and as a #funnelhacker. And if you have any FOMO, here’s a quick taste of everything that was revealed!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3673 (Q&A) Simple Strategies For Optimizing Your Funnels In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I share a dynamic Q&A session in the One Funnel Away program where I answer some thought-provoking questions from our community. These are the questions that entrepreneurs, marketers, and funnel builders are grappling with, and it’s always a blast to dive deep into strategies that can take your business to the next level. Listen as we discuss high-ticket funnels and the critical role that messaging plays in their success. I share insights on how to streamline your funnel processes, particularly when it comes to integrating external tools, and why focusing on the messaging can often be more impactful than complex automations. We also explored the importance of consistency in lead generation and how to manage ad spending effectively for high-ticket items. I offered advice on how to scale your funnel without overwhelming your sales team and the importance of refining your approach to cold and warm leads. Key Highlights: High-Ticket Funnels: Tips on optimizing messaging over automation to drive conversions. Lead Generation Consistency: Strategies for maintaining a steady flow of qualified leads. Ad Spend Management: How to effectively scale ad spend without risking your ROI. Funnel Optimization: Why simplicity can often outperform complexity in funnel design. Whether you're refining an existing funnel or building one from scratch, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you optimize your strategy and boost your sales. Tune in and let's take your funnel game to the next level! And get inside our next Q&A session for FREE by setting-up your ClickFunnels account today! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) Simple Strategies For Optimizing Your Funnels full 3 36 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I share a dynamic Q&A session in the One Funnel Away program where I answer some thought-provoking questions from our community. These are the questions that entrepreneurs, marketers, and funnel builders are grappling with, and it’s always a blast to dive deep into strategies that can take your business to the next level. Listen as we discuss high-ticket funnels and the critical role that messaging plays in their success. I share insights on how to streamline your funnel processes, particularly when it comes to integrating external tools, and why focusing on the messaging can often be more impactful than complex automations. We also explored the importance of consistency in lead generation and how to manage ad spending effectively for high-ticket items. I offered advice on how to scale your funnel without overwhelming your sales team and the importance of refining your approach to cold and warm leads. Key Highlights: High-Ticket Funnels: Tips on optimizing messaging over automation to drive conversions. Lead Generation Consistency: Strategies for maintaining a steady flow of qualified leads. Ad Spend Management: How to effectively scale ad spend without risking your ROI. Funnel Optimization: Why simplicity can often outperform complexity in funnel design. Whether you're refining an existing funnel or building one from scratch, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you optimize your strategy and boost your sales. Tune in and let's take your funnel game to the next level! And get inside our next Q&A session for FREE by setting-up your ClickFunnels account today! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I share a dynamic Q&A session in the One Funnel Away program where I answer some thought-provoking questions from our community. These are the questions that entrepreneurs, marketers, and funnel builders are grappling with, and it’s always a blast to dive deep into strategies that can take your business to the next level.

Listen as we discuss high-ticket funnels and the critical role that messaging plays in their success. I share insights on how to streamline your funnel processes, particularly when it comes to integrating external tools, and why focusing on the messaging can often be more impactful than complex automations.

We also explored the importance of consistency in lead generation and how to manage ad spending effectively for high-ticket items. I offered advice on how to scale your funnel without overwhelming your sales team and the importance of refining your approach to cold and warm leads.

Key Highlights:

  • High-Ticket Funnels: Tips on optimizing messaging over automation to drive conversions.
  • Lead Generation Consistency: Strategies for maintaining a steady flow of qualified leads.
  • Ad Spend Management: How to effectively scale ad spend without risking your ROI.
  • Funnel Optimization: Why simplicity can often outperform complexity in funnel design.

Whether you're refining an existing funnel or building one from scratch, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you optimize your strategy and boost your sales. Tune in and let's take your funnel game to the next level!

And get inside our next Q&A session for FREE by setting-up your ClickFunnels account today!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3885 The Calling VS The Resistance Every year at Funnel Hacking LIVE I present a unique Keynote presentation, which is then put on the podcast and on social media. So as we gear up for FHL Online this week, I wanted to share something special: my keynote presentation from last year's Funnel Hacking LIVE. This session is close to my heart, not just because of the content, but because it marks a significant moment in my personal journey of growth and discovery. During this keynote, I dive deep into the concept of "The Calling vs The Resistance," exploring how we all face internal battles that either propel us toward our goals or hold us back. I share my experiences and insights from treasure hunting for personal development wisdom, uncovering the powerful philosophies that have shaped my approach to success. So whether it's understanding the New Thought Movement or embracing the importance of having a definite purpose, this episode is packed with actionable strategies to help you overcome your own resistance and stay driven on your entrepreneurial journey. Key Highlights: The Calling vs The Resistance: Learn how to recognize and respond to your calling while overcoming the resistance that tries to hold you back. Treasure Hunting for Success: Discover the treasures I’ve unearthed from the pioneers of personal development and how their wisdom can transform your mindset. Your Definite Purpose: Understand the importance of having a clear, specific goal to drive your actions and keep you focused on your path to success. Tune in to get a preview of what’s in store at Funnel Hacking LIVE this year and how you can apply these powerful concepts to elevate your business and life. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Calling VS The Resistance full 3 34 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Every year at Funnel Hacking LIVE I present a unique Keynote presentation, which is then put on the podcast and on social media. So as we gear up for FHL Online this week, I wanted to share something special: my keynote presentation from last year's Funnel Hacking LIVE. This session is close to my heart, not just because of the content, but because it marks a significant moment in my personal journey of growth and discovery. During this keynote, I dive deep into the concept of "The Calling vs The Resistance," exploring how we all face internal battles that either propel us toward our goals or hold us back. I share my experiences and insights from treasure hunting for personal development wisdom, uncovering the powerful philosophies that have shaped my approach to success. So whether it's understanding the New Thought Movement or embracing the importance of having a definite purpose, this episode is packed with actionable strategies to help you overcome your own resistance and stay driven on your entrepreneurial journey. Key Highlights: The Calling vs The Resistance: Learn how to recognize and respond to your calling while overcoming the resistance that tries to hold you back. Treasure Hunting for Success: Discover the treasures I’ve unearthed from the pioneers of personal development and how their wisdom can transform your mindset. Your Definite Purpose: Understand the importance of having a clear, specific goal to drive your actions and keep you focused on your path to success. Tune in to get a preview of what’s in store at Funnel Hacking LIVE this year and how you can apply these powerful concepts to elevate your business and life. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Every year at Funnel Hacking LIVE I present a unique Keynote presentation, which is then put on the podcast and on social media. So as we gear up for FHL Online this week, I wanted to share something special: my keynote presentation from last year's Funnel Hacking LIVE. This session is close to my heart, not just because of the content, but because it marks a significant moment in my personal journey of growth and discovery.

During this keynote, I dive deep into the concept of "The Calling vs The Resistance," exploring how we all face internal battles that either propel us toward our goals or hold us back. I share my experiences and insights from treasure hunting for personal development wisdom, uncovering the powerful philosophies that have shaped my approach to success.

So whether it's understanding the New Thought Movement or embracing the importance of having a definite purpose, this episode is packed with actionable strategies to help you overcome your own resistance and stay driven on your entrepreneurial journey.

Key Highlights:

  • The Calling vs The Resistance: Learn how to recognize and respond to your calling while overcoming the resistance that tries to hold you back.
  • Treasure Hunting for Success: Discover the treasures I’ve unearthed from the pioneers of personal development and how their wisdom can transform your mindset.
  • Your Definite Purpose: Understand the importance of having a clear, specific goal to drive your actions and keep you focused on your path to success.

Tune in to get a preview of what’s in store at Funnel Hacking LIVE this year and how you can apply these powerful concepts to elevate your business and life.

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3211 Make Your Business Work Better For You: Q&As with Russell Brunson Our first time running our 3-Day Selling Online event gave us 4+ hours of rapid-fire question and answers, and while I want to reserve the full Q&A for those who purchased access, this set of questions are EXTREMELY relevant to a lot of the questions I get from people in our niche. So let’s dive back into the Selling Online Q&A session where we tackled 20 more pressing questions from our engaged community of entrepreneurs, content creators, and business enthusiasts. This time, we covered an incredible range of topics in just over an hour, ensuring you walk away with actionable strategies that you can implement immediately. During this session, we explore fresh, cutting-edge ideas, including:  Protecting your intellectual property in the digital age  Combining live and automated webinars without cannibalizing sales  Strategies for driving traffic and increasing conversions in online communities  The perfect formula for creating high-impact offers  Scaling businesses through franchising and licensing models  Balancing family life with entrepreneurial success  And so much more, all packed into a very concise, value-driven experience! Join me, along with facilitator Chris Cameron, as we navigate this array of questions and deliver insights that could transform your approach to online selling. Whether you’re looking to refine your current strategies or gain a fresh perspective, this episode is a goldmine of information you won’t want to miss. And with all of these quick shot questions and answers, keep your ears open for the ONE idea that could dramatically shift everything in your business and put your full focus there. Hopefully these answers are beneficial for you! And if you’re eager to continue your journey to success, be sure to secure your spot at our next event on SellingOnline.com — where we’ll continue to push the boundaries of what’s possible in the digital marketplace. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 28 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Make Your Business Work Better For You: Q&As with Russell Brunson full 3 34 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Our first time running our 3-Day Selling Online event gave us 4+ hours of rapid-fire question and answers, and while I want to reserve the full Q&A for those who purchased access, this set of questions are EXTREMELY relevant to a lot of the questions I get from people in our niche. So let’s dive back into the Selling Online Q&A session where we tackled 20 more pressing questions from our engaged community of entrepreneurs, content creators, and business enthusiasts. This time, we covered an incredible range of topics in just over an hour, ensuring you walk away with actionable strategies that you can implement immediately. During this session, we explore fresh, cutting-edge ideas, including:  Protecting your intellectual property in the digital age  Combining live and automated webinars without cannibalizing sales  Strategies for driving traffic and increasing conversions in online communities  The perfect formula for creating high-impact offers  Scaling businesses through franchising and licensing models  Balancing family life with entrepreneurial success  And so much more, all packed into a very concise, value-driven experience! Join me, along with facilitator Chris Cameron, as we navigate this array of questions and deliver insights that could transform your approach to online selling. Whether you’re looking to refine your current strategies or gain a fresh perspective, this episode is a goldmine of information you won’t want to miss. And with all of these quick shot questions and answers, keep your ears open for the ONE idea that could dramatically shift everything in your business and put your full focus there. Hopefully these answers are beneficial for you! And if you’re eager to continue your journey to success, be sure to secure your spot at our next event on SellingOnline.com — where we’ll continue to push the boundaries of what’s possible in the digital marketplace. Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Our first time running our 3-Day Selling Online event gave us 4+ hours of rapid-fire question and answers, and while I want to reserve the full Q&A for those who purchased access, this set of questions are EXTREMELY relevant to a lot of the questions I get from people in our niche.

So let’s dive back into the Selling Online Q&A session where we tackled 20 more pressing questions from our engaged community of entrepreneurs, content creators, and business enthusiasts. This time, we covered an incredible range of topics in just over an hour, ensuring you walk away with actionable strategies that you can implement immediately.

During this session, we explore fresh, cutting-edge ideas, including:

  •  Protecting your intellectual property in the digital age
  •  Combining live and automated webinars without cannibalizing sales
  •  Strategies for driving traffic and increasing conversions in online communities
  •  The perfect formula for creating high-impact offers
  •  Scaling businesses through franchising and licensing models
  •  Balancing family life with entrepreneurial success
  •  And so much more, all packed into a very concise, value-driven experience!

Join me, along with facilitator Chris Cameron, as we navigate this array of questions and deliver insights that could transform your approach to online selling. Whether you’re looking to refine your current strategies or gain a fresh perspective, this episode is a goldmine of information you won’t want to miss.

And with all of these quick shot questions and answers, keep your ears open for the ONE idea that could dramatically shift everything in your business and put your full focus there. Hopefully these answers are beneficial for you!

And if you’re eager to continue your journey to success, be sure to secure your spot at our next event on SellingOnline.com — where we’ll continue to push the boundaries of what’s possible in the digital marketplace.

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 4129 Finding Your Voice, Creating & Selling Your Frameworks As I prepare for Funnel Hacking LIVE Online 2024, our 9 and 1/2 version of our annual event, I’m looking back at previous Funnel Hacking LIVE events and I remembered this long forgotten gem. In this presentation from 2020, right before the pandemic, I delved into the essential frameworks that guide you from dreaming big to becoming the leader your tribe is waiting for. This episode is packed with insights designed to help you not just build successful funnels, but also discover and refine your unique voice in the process. Listen as we explore the crucial frameworks that every entrepreneur needs to master to find their voice, teach effectively, and ultimately sell their frameworks with confidence. Whether you're struggling to find your passion, unsure of how to structure your teaching, or looking for a proven way to create and sell your frameworks, this episode has it all. Key Highlights: Finding Your Voice: Understanding the evolution from a dreamer to a leader and how to harness your unique voice. Teaching Frameworks: A step-by-step guide on how to effectively teach your frameworks to others. Selling Frameworks: Strategies to confidently sell your frameworks, ensuring they resonate with your audience. Creating Your Frameworks: How to develop your passion and define your own frameworks into actionable steps that can lead to success. Tune in to gain the tools and insights you need to elevate your business, connect with your audience, and become the expert your community is looking for! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 26 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Finding Your Voice, Creating & Selling Your Frameworks full 3 33 Russell Brunson | YAP Media As I prepare for Funnel Hacking LIVE Online 2024, our 9 and 1/2 version of our annual event, I’m looking back at previous Funnel Hacking LIVE events and I remembered this long forgotten gem. In this presentation from 2020, right before the pandemic, I delved into the essential frameworks that guide you from dreaming big to becoming the leader your tribe is waiting for. This episode is packed with insights designed to help you not just build successful funnels, but also discover and refine your unique voice in the process. Listen as we explore the crucial frameworks that every entrepreneur needs to master to find their voice, teach effectively, and ultimately sell their frameworks with confidence. Whether you're struggling to find your passion, unsure of how to structure your teaching, or looking for a proven way to create and sell your frameworks, this episode has it all. Key Highlights: Finding Your Voice: Understanding the evolution from a dreamer to a leader and how to harness your unique voice. Teaching Frameworks: A step-by-step guide on how to effectively teach your frameworks to others. Selling Frameworks: Strategies to confidently sell your frameworks, ensuring they resonate with your audience. Creating Your Frameworks: How to develop your passion and define your own frameworks into actionable steps that can lead to success. Tune in to gain the tools and insights you need to elevate your business, connect with your audience, and become the expert your community is looking for! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As I prepare for Funnel Hacking LIVE Online 2024, our 9 and 1/2 version of our annual event, I’m looking back at previous Funnel Hacking LIVE events and I remembered this long forgotten gem.

In this presentation from 2020, right before the pandemic, I delved into the essential frameworks that guide you from dreaming big to becoming the leader your tribe is waiting for. This episode is packed with insights designed to help you not just build successful funnels, but also discover and refine your unique voice in the process.

Listen as we explore the crucial frameworks that every entrepreneur needs to master to find their voice, teach effectively, and ultimately sell their frameworks with confidence. Whether you're struggling to find your passion, unsure of how to structure your teaching, or looking for a proven way to create and sell your frameworks, this episode has it all.

Key Highlights:

  • Finding Your Voice: Understanding the evolution from a dreamer to a leader and how to harness your unique voice.
  • Teaching Frameworks: A step-by-step guide on how to effectively teach your frameworks to others.
  • Selling Frameworks: Strategies to confidently sell your frameworks, ensuring they resonate with your audience.
  • Creating Your Frameworks: How to develop your passion and define your own frameworks into actionable steps that can lead to success.

Tune in to gain the tools and insights you need to elevate your business, connect with your audience, and become the expert your community is looking for!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3885 Rapid-Fire Strategy Session: 24 Q&As in One Hour In our first Selling Online Event, I tackled an intense rapid-fire Q&A session, answering over 80 unique questions from audience members in under 5 hours. This was hours of non-stop insights, light-bulb moments and epiphanies, with an average of 3.5 minutes per question! While attendees who wanted to “Ask Russell A Question” were required to pay a premium on top of their ticket price, I'm giving you a sneak peek into the event that I believe will set the standard in the industry for years to come - SellingOnline.com. At the start of this session, I dive into the key takeaways from rooms where I’ve spent a high price-point to hear the opinion of my mentors, so that hopefully you as the audience can walk away with actionable insights you can apply immediately. These segment of just 24 rapid-fire questions cover a wide range of topics, including: - Launching communities - Choosing the right webinar platforms - Mastering persuasion techniques - Perfecting offer positioning - Crafting non-profit strategies - Getting started on your personal goals - And far more topics packed into this single 1-hour snippet! It's rare to get my perspective on such a diverse array of questions, and I hope that the lessons you'll learn might just be the spark you've been waiting to hear. So join myself and facilitator Chris Cameron as we jump in and answer the top questions on my audience’s minds! And if you're ready to elevate your selling game, don’t miss out—join us at the next event on https://SellingOnline.com! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Rapid-Fire Strategy Session: 24 Q&As in One Hour full 3 32 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In our first Selling Online Event, I tackled an intense rapid-fire Q&A session, answering over 80 unique questions from audience members in under 5 hours. This was hours of non-stop insights, light-bulb moments and epiphanies, with an average of 3.5 minutes per question! While attendees who wanted to “Ask Russell A Question” were required to pay a premium on top of their ticket price, I'm giving you a sneak peek into the event that I believe will set the standard in the industry for years to come - SellingOnline.com. At the start of this session, I dive into the key takeaways from rooms where I’ve spent a high price-point to hear the opinion of my mentors, so that hopefully you as the audience can walk away with actionable insights you can apply immediately. These segment of just 24 rapid-fire questions cover a wide range of topics, including: - Launching communities - Choosing the right webinar platforms - Mastering persuasion techniques - Perfecting offer positioning - Crafting non-profit strategies - Getting started on your personal goals - And far more topics packed into this single 1-hour snippet! It's rare to get my perspective on such a diverse array of questions, and I hope that the lessons you'll learn might just be the spark you've been waiting to hear. So join myself and facilitator Chris Cameron as we jump in and answer the top questions on my audience’s minds! And if you're ready to elevate your selling game, don’t miss out—join us at the next event on https://SellingOnline.com! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In our first Selling Online Event, I tackled an intense rapid-fire Q&A session, answering over 80 unique questions from audience members in under 5 hours. This was hours of non-stop insights, light-bulb moments and epiphanies, with an average of 3.5 minutes per question!

While attendees who wanted to “Ask Russell A Question” were required to pay a premium on top of their ticket price, I'm giving you a sneak peek into the event that I believe will set the standard in the industry for years to come - SellingOnline.com.

At the start of this session, I dive into the key takeaways from rooms where I’ve spent a high price-point to hear the opinion of my mentors, so that hopefully you as the audience can walk away with actionable insights you can apply immediately.

These segment of just 24 rapid-fire questions cover a wide range of topics, including:

- Launching communities

- Choosing the right webinar platforms

- Mastering persuasion techniques

- Perfecting offer positioning

- Crafting non-profit strategies

- Getting started on your personal goals

- And far more topics packed into this single 1-hour snippet!

It's rare to get my perspective on such a diverse array of questions, and I hope that the lessons you'll learn might just be the spark you've been waiting to hear. So join myself and facilitator Chris Cameron as we jump in and answer the top questions on my audience’s minds!

And if you're ready to elevate your selling game, don’t miss out—join us at the next event on https://SellingOnline.com!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 4165 How To Make What You Sell (Book, Course, Movement) A Perennial Seller (With Ryan Holiday) How do you make the work you do last forever? This episode you'll learn how to turn the products that you sell into something that will continue to sell throughout time (even after you're gone). Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 19 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0000 How To Make What You Sell (Book, Course, Movement) A Perennial Seller (With Ryan Holiday) full 3 31 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How do you make the work you do last forever? This episode you'll learn how to turn the products that you sell into something that will continue to sell throughout time (even after you're gone). Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How do you make the work you do last forever? This episode you'll learn how to turn the products that you sell into something that will continue to sell throughout time (even after you're gone).

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]]> 3908 Mastering Funnel Design, Strategy, and Execution Recently, I had the chance to dive into another Q&A session with some of those on their journey through the One Funnel Away Challenge. These sessions are always a blast because I get to connect directly with #funnelhackers and address the real questions and challenges facing the community as they build and scale online businesses. In this episode, we covered a range of topics that are crucial for anyone looking to level up their marketing strategies and funnel-building techniques. Whether you're trying to figure out how to deal with limited time, struggling with funnel design, or just looking for ways to enhance your overall marketing approach, we touched on it all. Key Highlights: Time Management: Quick strategies to balance building your funnel with other responsibilities. Funnel Design: Tips on creating high-converting funnels, even if you're not a designer. Marketing Strategies: How to align your content with your audience's needs and preferences. Overcoming Obstacles: Practical advice for pushing through the common challenges of funnel-building. Tune in to this episode to get answers to your burning questions and gain insights that can help you take your funnel and business to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Mastering Funnel Design, Strategy, and Execution full 3 30 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently, I had the chance to dive into another Q&A session with some of those on their journey through the One Funnel Away Challenge. These sessions are always a blast because I get to connect directly with #funnelhackers and address the real questions and challenges facing the community as they build and scale online businesses. In this episode, we covered a range of topics that are crucial for anyone looking to level up their marketing strategies and funnel-building techniques. Whether you're trying to figure out how to deal with limited time, struggling with funnel design, or just looking for ways to enhance your overall marketing approach, we touched on it all. Key Highlights: Time Management: Quick strategies to balance building your funnel with other responsibilities. Funnel Design: Tips on creating high-converting funnels, even if you're not a designer. Marketing Strategies: How to align your content with your audience's needs and preferences. Overcoming Obstacles: Practical advice for pushing through the common challenges of funnel-building. Tune in to this episode to get answers to your burning questions and gain insights that can help you take your funnel and business to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently, I had the chance to dive into another Q&A session with some of those on their journey through the One Funnel Away Challenge. These sessions are always a blast because I get to connect directly with #funnelhackers and address the real questions and challenges facing the community as they build and scale online businesses.

In this episode, we covered a range of topics that are crucial for anyone looking to level up their marketing strategies and funnel-building techniques. Whether you're trying to figure out how to deal with limited time, struggling with funnel design, or just looking for ways to enhance your overall marketing approach, we touched on it all.

Key Highlights:

  • Time Management: Quick strategies to balance building your funnel with other responsibilities.
  • Funnel Design: Tips on creating high-converting funnels, even if you're not a designer.
  • Marketing Strategies: How to align your content with your audience's needs and preferences.
  • Overcoming Obstacles: Practical advice for pushing through the common challenges of funnel-building.

Tune in to this episode to get answers to your burning questions and gain insights that can help you take your funnel and business to the next level!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

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]]> 4365 Russell Unplugged: The Secrets To Unstoppable Productivity I wasn’t sure if I wanted to share this one. In this episode, I take the hot seat in an impromptu interview led by my good friend Annie Grace during a late-night session at our recent Inner Circle meeting. Annie, who is renowned for her work with This Naked Mind, proposed an intriguing idea to uncover the secrets behind my productivity and how I manage to accomplish so much. After some contemplation, we decided to go ahead with this interview, and the result was an insightful and engaging conversation that I believe many entrepreneurs will find valuable. During the session, Annie asked a series of compelling questions that dug deep into my daily routines, my mindset, and the strategies I use to get things done. We discussed how I handle numerous projects at once, each with the potential to generate significant revenue, and how I maintain my energy and enthusiasm amidst a packed schedule. The feedback from those in the room was overwhelmingly positive, with many entrepreneurs resonating with the insights shared and finding reassurance in the challenges they face. Key Highlights: Energy and Enthusiasm: Discover how maintaining a high level of energy and enthusiasm can transform your productivity. Balancing Fun and Work: Understand the importance of intertwining enjoyable tasks with less exciting ones to maintain momentum. Handling Multiple Projects: Hear how I manage numerous high-revenue projects without burning out. Vibration and Influence: Find out how your energy levels can influence and elevate the productivity of your entire team. This episode is heavily-packed with actionable insights and real-life examples that I hope empowers people like me who want to get a lot done but who may have a hard time getting their team to follow their lead. After decades of leading, I can’t write a book on leading and productivity, but hopefully this provides a better understanding of the dynamics of working with or as a high-performing entrepreneur. Tune in and let me know if you want more like this! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 12 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Russell Unplugged: The Secrets To Unstoppable Productivity full 3 29 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I wasn’t sure if I wanted to share this one. In this episode, I take the hot seat in an impromptu interview led by my good friend Annie Grace during a late-night session at our recent Inner Circle meeting. Annie, who is renowned for her work with This Naked Mind, proposed an intriguing idea to uncover the secrets behind my productivity and how I manage to accomplish so much. After some contemplation, we decided to go ahead with this interview, and the result was an insightful and engaging conversation that I believe many entrepreneurs will find valuable. During the session, Annie asked a series of compelling questions that dug deep into my daily routines, my mindset, and the strategies I use to get things done. We discussed how I handle numerous projects at once, each with the potential to generate significant revenue, and how I maintain my energy and enthusiasm amidst a packed schedule. The feedback from those in the room was overwhelmingly positive, with many entrepreneurs resonating with the insights shared and finding reassurance in the challenges they face. Key Highlights: Energy and Enthusiasm: Discover how maintaining a high level of energy and enthusiasm can transform your productivity. Balancing Fun and Work: Understand the importance of intertwining enjoyable tasks with less exciting ones to maintain momentum. Handling Multiple Projects: Hear how I manage numerous high-revenue projects without burning out. Vibration and Influence: Find out how your energy levels can influence and elevate the productivity of your entire team. This episode is heavily-packed with actionable insights and real-life examples that I hope empowers people like me who want to get a lot done but who may have a hard time getting their team to follow their lead. After decades of leading, I can’t write a book on leading and productivity, but hopefully this provides a better understanding of the dynamics of working with or as a high-performing entrepreneur. Tune in and let me know if you want more like this! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I wasn’t sure if I wanted to share this one. In this episode, I take the hot seat in an impromptu interview led by my good friend Annie Grace during a late-night session at our recent Inner Circle meeting. Annie, who is renowned for her work with This Naked Mind, proposed an intriguing idea to uncover the secrets behind my productivity and how I manage to accomplish so much. After some contemplation, we decided to go ahead with this interview, and the result was an insightful and engaging conversation that I believe many entrepreneurs will find valuable.

During the session, Annie asked a series of compelling questions that dug deep into my daily routines, my mindset, and the strategies I use to get things done. We discussed how I handle numerous projects at once, each with the potential to generate significant revenue, and how I maintain my energy and enthusiasm amidst a packed schedule. The feedback from those in the room was overwhelmingly positive, with many entrepreneurs resonating with the insights shared and finding reassurance in the challenges they face.

Key Highlights:

  • Energy and Enthusiasm: Discover how maintaining a high level of energy and enthusiasm can transform your productivity.
  • Balancing Fun and Work: Understand the importance of intertwining enjoyable tasks with less exciting ones to maintain momentum.
  • Handling Multiple Projects: Hear how I manage numerous high-revenue projects without burning out.
  • Vibration and Influence: Find out how your energy levels can influence and elevate the productivity of your entire team.

This episode is heavily-packed with actionable insights and real-life examples that I hope empowers people like me who want to get a lot done but who may have a hard time getting their team to follow their lead. After decades of leading, I can’t write a book on leading and productivity, but hopefully this provides a better understanding of the dynamics of working with or as a high-performing entrepreneur. Tune in and let me know if you want more like this!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3818 Funnel Hacking LIVE Preview with Kristine Mirelle, Tim Shields & Ruth Soukup Let’s dive into a preview of what you can expect from this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE event with Kristine Mirelle, Tim Shields, and Ruth Soukup. Each of these experts brings a unique perspective on driving traffic, creating engaging content, and mastering course creation. You don't want to miss their insights, especially if you're looking to take your marketing strategies to the next level. Kristine Mirelle, known for her hilarious ads, shares her journey from being a musician living in a garage to becoming a successful marketer without an internet connection. Her simple, low-budget, yet highly effective ads have driven significant traffic and lowered ad costs. Kristine will reveal her secrets to creating viral, humorous content that not only grabs attention but also dramatically reduces advertising expenses. Tim Shields, who skyrocketed from 50,000 to 2 million Instagram followers in just six months, will discuss his Instagram formula. He'll explain the strategies he used to surpass accounts with much larger followings, including my own! Tim's session is a must-attend for anyone looking to grow their social media presence quickly and effectively. Ruth Soukup, a long-time community member and author, will delve into planting your flag with course creation. Whether you're new to growing online or looking to enhance your existing business, Ruth's expertise will provide you with actionable steps to develop and market the courses your future customers are asking for today! Key Highlights: Hilarious Ads: Kristine Mirelle shares how simple, funny videos & ads can drive massive traffic and reduce ad costs. Instagram Growth: Tim Shields' key question that helped him grow from 50,000 to 2 million followers in six months. Course Creation: Ruth Soukup's insights on developing and marketing successful courses. Tune in to get a taste of what’s to come at Funnel Hacking LIVE and gain valuable tips you can implement right away. And remember, you can now get your ticket for Funnel Hacking LIVE with $0 down and decide if it's worth it after attending. Don't miss out on this opportunity! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 07 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking LIVE Preview with Kristine Mirelle, Tim Shields & Ruth Soukup full 3 28 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Let’s dive into a preview of what you can expect from this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE event with Kristine Mirelle, Tim Shields, and Ruth Soukup. Each of these experts brings a unique perspective on driving traffic, creating engaging content, and mastering course creation. You don't want to miss their insights, especially if you're looking to take your marketing strategies to the next level. Kristine Mirelle, known for her hilarious ads, shares her journey from being a musician living in a garage to becoming a successful marketer without an internet connection. Her simple, low-budget, yet highly effective ads have driven significant traffic and lowered ad costs. Kristine will reveal her secrets to creating viral, humorous content that not only grabs attention but also dramatically reduces advertising expenses. Tim Shields, who skyrocketed from 50,000 to 2 million Instagram followers in just six months, will discuss his Instagram formula. He'll explain the strategies he used to surpass accounts with much larger followings, including my own! Tim's session is a must-attend for anyone looking to grow their social media presence quickly and effectively. Ruth Soukup, a long-time community member and author, will delve into planting your flag with course creation. Whether you're new to growing online or looking to enhance your existing business, Ruth's expertise will provide you with actionable steps to develop and market the courses your future customers are asking for today! Key Highlights: Hilarious Ads: Kristine Mirelle shares how simple, funny videos & ads can drive massive traffic and reduce ad costs. Instagram Growth: Tim Shields' key question that helped him grow from 50,000 to 2 million followers in six months. Course Creation: Ruth Soukup's insights on developing and marketing successful courses. Tune in to get a taste of what’s to come at Funnel Hacking LIVE and gain valuable tips you can implement right away. And remember, you can now get your ticket for Funnel Hacking LIVE with $0 down and decide if it's worth it after attending. Don't miss out on this opportunity! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Let’s dive into a preview of what you can expect from this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE event with Kristine Mirelle, Tim Shields, and Ruth Soukup. Each of these experts brings a unique perspective on driving traffic, creating engaging content, and mastering course creation. You don't want to miss their insights, especially if you're looking to take your marketing strategies to the next level.

Kristine Mirelle, known for her hilarious ads, shares her journey from being a musician living in a garage to becoming a successful marketer without an internet connection. Her simple, low-budget, yet highly effective ads have driven significant traffic and lowered ad costs. Kristine will reveal her secrets to creating viral, humorous content that not only grabs attention but also dramatically reduces advertising expenses.

Tim Shields, who skyrocketed from 50,000 to 2 million Instagram followers in just six months, will discuss his Instagram formula. He'll explain the strategies he used to surpass accounts with much larger followings, including my own! Tim's session is a must-attend for anyone looking to grow their social media presence quickly and effectively.

Ruth Soukup, a long-time community member and author, will delve into planting your flag with course creation. Whether you're new to growing online or looking to enhance your existing business, Ruth's expertise will provide you with actionable steps to develop and market the courses your future customers are asking for today!

Key Highlights:

  • Hilarious Ads: Kristine Mirelle shares how simple, funny videos & ads can drive massive traffic and reduce ad costs.
  • Instagram Growth: Tim Shields' key question that helped him grow from 50,000 to 2 million followers in six months.
  • Course Creation: Ruth Soukup's insights on developing and marketing successful courses.

Tune in to get a taste of what’s to come at Funnel Hacking LIVE and gain valuable tips you can implement right away. And remember, you can now get your ticket for Funnel Hacking LIVE with $0 down and decide if it's worth it after attending. Don't miss out on this opportunity!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2397 The Long Forgotten Power of Correct Affiliate Marketing Implementation In my last Inner Circle, one of the last strategies I shared was on a topic that, surprisingly, still drives more than 50% of the traffic to ClickFunnels – Affiliate Marketing. Despite the buzz around Facebook, Google, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube ads, affiliate marketing remains a powerful and often overlooked strategy. I shared my insights and strategies on how to build a successful affiliate program, drawing from my personal experience and the journey of launching ClickFunnels. In the early days, traffic generation was primarily through joint ventures and affiliate partnerships. This episode highlights how a properly managed affiliate strategy can significantly reduce the risks and costs associated with paid advertising. Plus, instead of paying upfront for ads, affiliate marketing allows you to pay only when a sale is made, making it a stress-free and efficient way to grow your business. Key Highlights: Two-Tier Affiliate Programs: Understand the benefits of offering a two-tier affiliate program to incentivize and expand your affiliate network. Partner With Anthony Model: Get insights into Anthony Morrison’s successful affiliate model that leverages low-cost training programs to drive high affiliate conversions. Dream 100 Strategy: Discover the Dream 100 approach we used to launch ClickFunnels and generate massive awareness. Building an Affiliate Program: Learn how to structure your affiliate program to attract and retain top affiliates. Integration Marketing: How to get your best affiliates promoting you on autopilot so sales keep coming. If you're looking to scale your business and cut down on advertising costs, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you harness the power of affiliate marketing. Listen and learn how to leverage affiliate partnerships to drive traffic and sales effectively! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 05 Aug 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Long Forgotten Power of Correct Affiliate Marketing Implementation full 3 27 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In my last Inner Circle, one of the last strategies I shared was on a topic that, surprisingly, still drives more than 50% of the traffic to ClickFunnels – Affiliate Marketing. Despite the buzz around Facebook, Google, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube ads, affiliate marketing remains a powerful and often overlooked strategy. I shared my insights and strategies on how to build a successful affiliate program, drawing from my personal experience and the journey of launching ClickFunnels. In the early days, traffic generation was primarily through joint ventures and affiliate partnerships. This episode highlights how a properly managed affiliate strategy can significantly reduce the risks and costs associated with paid advertising. Plus, instead of paying upfront for ads, affiliate marketing allows you to pay only when a sale is made, making it a stress-free and efficient way to grow your business. Key Highlights: Two-Tier Affiliate Programs: Understand the benefits of offering a two-tier affiliate program to incentivize and expand your affiliate network. Partner With Anthony Model: Get insights into Anthony Morrison’s successful affiliate model that leverages low-cost training programs to drive high affiliate conversions. Dream 100 Strategy: Discover the Dream 100 approach we used to launch ClickFunnels and generate massive awareness. Building an Affiliate Program: Learn how to structure your affiliate program to attract and retain top affiliates. Integration Marketing: How to get your best affiliates promoting you on autopilot so sales keep coming. If you're looking to scale your business and cut down on advertising costs, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you harness the power of affiliate marketing. Listen and learn how to leverage affiliate partnerships to drive traffic and sales effectively! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In my last Inner Circle, one of the last strategies I shared was on a topic that, surprisingly, still drives more than 50% of the traffic to ClickFunnels – Affiliate Marketing. Despite the buzz around Facebook, Google, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube ads, affiliate marketing remains a powerful and often overlooked strategy. I shared my insights and strategies on how to build a successful affiliate program, drawing from my personal experience and the journey of launching ClickFunnels.

In the early days, traffic generation was primarily through joint ventures and affiliate partnerships. This episode highlights how a properly managed affiliate strategy can significantly reduce the risks and costs associated with paid advertising. Plus, instead of paying upfront for ads, affiliate marketing allows you to pay only when a sale is made, making it a stress-free and efficient way to grow your business.

Key Highlights:

  • Two-Tier Affiliate Programs: Understand the benefits of offering a two-tier affiliate program to incentivize and expand your affiliate network.
  • Partner With Anthony Model: Get insights into Anthony Morrison’s successful affiliate model that leverages low-cost training programs to drive high affiliate conversions.
  • Dream 100 Strategy: Discover the Dream 100 approach we used to launch ClickFunnels and generate massive awareness.
  • Building an Affiliate Program: Learn how to structure your affiliate program to attract and retain top affiliates.
  • Integration Marketing: How to get your best affiliates promoting you on autopilot so sales keep coming.

If you're looking to scale your business and cut down on advertising costs, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you harness the power of affiliate marketing. Listen and learn how to leverage affiliate partnerships to drive traffic and sales effectively!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2707 Unleashing Change With Transformative Strategies for Marketing and Personal Growth I am thrilled to present the third preview for this year’s Virtual Funnel Hacking LIVE. This episode is all about transformative moments and the power of change, both in business and personal development. FHL (Funnel Hacking LIVE) is not just a marketing event; it's an experience that can truly change your life. People often tell me they come for the marketing advice but leave with their entire life transformed. This year, for the first time, we are hosting Funnel Hacking LIVE virtually, and to celebrate, we're offering a special deal: attend the event, and if you love it, then we’ll bill you. If not, you pay nothing! In this episode, I introduce three phenomenal speakers who will ignite your passion and inspire significant changes in your life. First up is Annie Grace, who shares her incredible journey from attending Funnel Hacking LIVE to transforming her life and business. Annie helps people overcome alcohol addiction through psychological insights and understanding the subconscious mind. She’ll delve into the transformation she experienced and how she uses her knowledge to help others achieve similar breakthroughs. Next, we have Anthony Trucks, one of the most impactful speakers at FHL, back by popular demand! Anthony will guide you through the process of an identity shift, essential for anyone struggling to achieve their goals. He emphasizes that success is often hindered by an identity problem, and he will teach you how to transition to the identity you need to break through and succeed. Lastly, Garrett J. White, a staple at every FHL, will share something very different - his powerful strategies on strategic seduction, focusing on client engagement before making any sales. I saw him present this strategy to his Warriors and I knew this was one of the missing pieces most businesses need and will help change your business forever! Key Highlights: Annie Grace: Discusses her innovative approach to overcoming alcohol addiction and the transformation Funnel Hacking LIVE brought to her life. Anthony Trucks: Explains the concept of identity shift and its importance in achieving success no matter your background.. Garrett J. White: Shares the strategic seduction techniques to improve client engagement and conversion rates. Tune in to this episode for a preview of the incredible insights and strategies you’ll gain at Funnel Hacking LIVE. Whether you're looking to revolutionize your marketing or transform your personal life, this episode is packed with valuable advice to help you achieve your goals. Don’t miss out on this opportunity to join us for an unforgettable event by going to funnelhackinglive.com now! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 31 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Unleashing Change With Transformative Strategies for Marketing and Personal Growth full 3 26 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I am thrilled to present the third preview for this year’s Virtual Funnel Hacking LIVE. This episode is all about transformative moments and the power of change, both in business and personal development. FHL (Funnel Hacking LIVE) is not just a marketing event; it's an experience that can truly change your life. People often tell me they come for the marketing advice but leave with their entire life transformed. This year, for the first time, we are hosting Funnel Hacking LIVE virtually, and to celebrate, we're offering a special deal: attend the event, and if you love it, then we’ll bill you. If not, you pay nothing! In this episode, I introduce three phenomenal speakers who will ignite your passion and inspire significant changes in your life. First up is Annie Grace, who shares her incredible journey from attending Funnel Hacking LIVE to transforming her life and business. Annie helps people overcome alcohol addiction through psychological insights and understanding the subconscious mind. She’ll delve into the transformation she experienced and how she uses her knowledge to help others achieve similar breakthroughs. Next, we have Anthony Trucks, one of the most impactful speakers at FHL, back by popular demand! Anthony will guide you through the process of an identity shift, essential for anyone struggling to achieve their goals. He emphasizes that success is often hindered by an identity problem, and he will teach you how to transition to the identity you need to break through and succeed. Lastly, Garrett J. White, a staple at every FHL, will share something very different - his powerful strategies on strategic seduction, focusing on client engagement before making any sales. I saw him present this strategy to his Warriors and I knew this was one of the missing pieces most businesses need and will help change your business forever! Key Highlights: Annie Grace: Discusses her innovative approach to overcoming alcohol addiction and the transformation Funnel Hacking LIVE brought to her life. Anthony Trucks: Explains the concept of identity shift and its importance in achieving success no matter your background.. Garrett J. White: Shares the strategic seduction techniques to improve client engagement and conversion rates. Tune in to this episode for a preview of the incredible insights and strategies you’ll gain at Funnel Hacking LIVE. Whether you're looking to revolutionize your marketing or transform your personal life, this episode is packed with valuable advice to help you achieve your goals. Don’t miss out on this opportunity to join us for an unforgettable event by going to funnelhackinglive.com now! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I am thrilled to present the third preview for this year’s Virtual Funnel Hacking LIVE. This episode is all about transformative moments and the power of change, both in business and personal development. FHL (Funnel Hacking LIVE) is not just a marketing event; it's an experience that can truly change your life. People often tell me they come for the marketing advice but leave with their entire life transformed. This year, for the first time, we are hosting Funnel Hacking LIVE virtually, and to celebrate, we're offering a special deal: attend the event, and if you love it, then we’ll bill you. If not, you pay nothing!

In this episode, I introduce three phenomenal speakers who will ignite your passion and inspire significant changes in your life. First up is Annie Grace, who shares her incredible journey from attending Funnel Hacking LIVE to transforming her life and business. Annie helps people overcome alcohol addiction through psychological insights and understanding the subconscious mind. She’ll delve into the transformation she experienced and how she uses her knowledge to help others achieve similar breakthroughs.

Next, we have Anthony Trucks, one of the most impactful speakers at FHL, back by popular demand! Anthony will guide you through the process of an identity shift, essential for anyone struggling to achieve their goals. He emphasizes that success is often hindered by an identity problem, and he will teach you how to transition to the identity you need to break through and succeed.

Lastly, Garrett J. White, a staple at every FHL, will share something very different - his powerful strategies on strategic seduction, focusing on client engagement before making any sales. I saw him present this strategy to his Warriors and I knew this was one of the missing pieces most businesses need and will help change your business forever!

Key Highlights:

  • Annie Grace: Discusses her innovative approach to overcoming alcohol addiction and the transformation Funnel Hacking LIVE brought to her life.
  • Anthony Trucks: Explains the concept of identity shift and its importance in achieving success no matter your background..
  • Garrett J. White: Shares the strategic seduction techniques to improve client engagement and conversion rates.

Tune in to this episode for a preview of the incredible insights and strategies you’ll gain at Funnel Hacking LIVE. Whether you're looking to revolutionize your marketing or transform your personal life, this episode is packed with valuable advice to help you achieve your goals. Don’t miss out on this opportunity to join us for an unforgettable event by going to funnelhackinglive.com now!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

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]]> 3372 Commanding Traffic, Audience Monetization And Overdelivering (Done RIGHT) Russell jumped on a live Q&A with ClickFunnels members to tackle some of the most pressing questions entrepreneurs face as they prepare to launch their offers, their funnels and their traffic generation strategies. The call is a free bonus to any active ClickFunnels member, as is the full One Funnel Away Challenge! In this session, Russell kicks things off by discussing the power of priming and meditation with Tony Robbins. He tells a story about the power of his experiences in meditation with Tony Robbins and explains why these practices are essential for entrepreneurs, helping to set the stage for success and maintain focus amidst the chaos of running a business. Then he dives deeply into the questions from entrepreneurs, including… Monetizing Your Audience: How to leverage your audience by creating Dramatic Demonstrations to sell, while also respecting and engaging your audience. Avoiding Over-Overdelivery: Understand the balance of over delivering and how to avoid creating overwhelm in your training, offers and more. Expert Insights: Hear how Bari Baumbardner, Blue Melnick, and Stacy & Paul Martino all structure to ensure simplicity and craft effective experiences & offers. Traffic Strategies: Explore proven methods for driving traffic profitably through webinars, challenges, and more. Optimizing Campaigns: Gain tips on optimizing your sales conversions by utilizing both manual and automated tools for better campaign results. Compelling Headlines and Demonstrations: Learn how to craft attention-grabbing headlines and the importance of consistent, dramatic demonstrations. Launching with Ads: Get advice on the optimal timing and strategies for launching ad campaigns safely & commanding attention. Tune in to this episode for a wealth of information that will help you refine your funnel strategies and achieve greater success in your business! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Commanding Traffic, Audience Monetization And Overdelivering (Done RIGHT) full 3 25 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell jumped on a live Q&A with ClickFunnels members to tackle some of the most pressing questions entrepreneurs face as they prepare to launch their offers, their funnels and their traffic generation strategies. The call is a free bonus to any active ClickFunnels member, as is the full One Funnel Away Challenge! In this session, Russell kicks things off by discussing the power of priming and meditation with Tony Robbins. He tells a story about the power of his experiences in meditation with Tony Robbins and explains why these practices are essential for entrepreneurs, helping to set the stage for success and maintain focus amidst the chaos of running a business. Then he dives deeply into the questions from entrepreneurs, including… Monetizing Your Audience: How to leverage your audience by creating Dramatic Demonstrations to sell, while also respecting and engaging your audience. Avoiding Over-Overdelivery: Understand the balance of over delivering and how to avoid creating overwhelm in your training, offers and more. Expert Insights: Hear how Bari Baumbardner, Blue Melnick, and Stacy & Paul Martino all structure to ensure simplicity and craft effective experiences & offers. Traffic Strategies: Explore proven methods for driving traffic profitably through webinars, challenges, and more. Optimizing Campaigns: Gain tips on optimizing your sales conversions by utilizing both manual and automated tools for better campaign results. Compelling Headlines and Demonstrations: Learn how to craft attention-grabbing headlines and the importance of consistent, dramatic demonstrations. Launching with Ads: Get advice on the optimal timing and strategies for launching ad campaigns safely & commanding attention. Tune in to this episode for a wealth of information that will help you refine your funnel strategies and achieve greater success in your business! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell jumped on a live Q&A with ClickFunnels members to tackle some of the most pressing questions entrepreneurs face as they prepare to launch their offers, their funnels and their traffic generation strategies. The call is a free bonus to any active ClickFunnels member, as is the full One Funnel Away Challenge!

In this session, Russell kicks things off by discussing the power of priming and meditation with Tony Robbins. He tells a story about the power of his experiences in meditation with Tony Robbins and explains why these practices are essential for entrepreneurs, helping to set the stage for success and maintain focus amidst the chaos of running a business.

Then he dives deeply into the questions from entrepreneurs, including…

  • Monetizing Your Audience: How to leverage your audience by creating Dramatic Demonstrations to sell, while also respecting and engaging your audience.
  • Avoiding Over-Overdelivery: Understand the balance of over delivering and how to avoid creating overwhelm in your training, offers and more.
  • Expert Insights: Hear how Bari Baumbardner, Blue Melnick, and Stacy & Paul Martino all structure to ensure simplicity and craft effective experiences & offers.
  • Traffic Strategies: Explore proven methods for driving traffic profitably through webinars, challenges, and more.
  • Optimizing Campaigns: Gain tips on optimizing your sales conversions by utilizing both manual and automated tools for better campaign results.
  • Compelling Headlines and Demonstrations: Learn how to craft attention-grabbing headlines and the importance of consistent, dramatic demonstrations.
  • Launching with Ads: Get advice on the optimal timing and strategies for launching ad campaigns safely & commanding attention.

Tune in to this episode for a wealth of information that will help you refine your funnel strategies and achieve greater success in your business!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

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]]> 2994 The Future of the E-commerce Revolution Inside ClickFunnels Almost half the speakers at this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE are talking about e-commerce, and there’s a reason why! First, we’ve made some incredible advancements in ClickFunnels' e-commerce engine with the groundbreaking partnership with Zendrop. This partnership allows ClickFunnels users to seamlessly add over a million products to their stores or funnels, revolutionizing the way we approach ecommerce and dropshipping. To highlight the focus on e-commerce at this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE, I inquired from two remarkable speakers for this year’s first-time virtual event, Trey Lewellen and Alison Prince. Trey Lewellen, one of the top e-commerce sellers on the ClickFunnels platform and a co-trainer in the One Funnel Away Challenge, joins me to share his journey and strategies. Trey, who has been with ClickFunnels since the beginning, recounts how he went from struggling to sell a hundred flashlights to generating (truly) unbelievable sales in just a few months (you have to hear the number to believe it - trust me). His story is proof to the power of the spirit of being a #funnelhacker and the power of using ClickFunnels. Trey also gives a sneak peek into his FHL presentation, where he will delve deeper into the tactics and secrets behind his e-commerce success. Then I’ll bring on Alison Prince to share her phenomenal repeatable successes in the world of physical products. Having generated over eight figures in sales on repeat, Alison's expertise in creating and selling simple, yet highly profitable products is unparalleled. She provides a glimpse into her methods and the unique challenges she has developed to help others succeed in e-commerce. Both Trey and Alison will be delivering powerful sessions at Funnel Hacking LIVE, offering invaluable knowledge for anyone looking to scale their e-commerce business. Key Highlights: ClickFunnels Integration with ZenDrop: Discover the latest updates and how to leverage almost unlimited ecommerce products with this dropshipping partnership. Trey Lewellen’s Success Story: Hear how Trey went from zero to $30 million in sales with a single product and more lessons from each launch thereafter. Alison Prince’s Expertise: Gain insights from Alison’s journey to over nine figures in physical product sales and her journey with Funnel Hacking LIVE. FHL Preview: Get a taste of what’s to come at this year’s Funnel Hacking Live, focusing on both e-commerce and info products. Tune in to this episode for a wealth of information and inspiration to take your e-commerce business to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Future of the E-commerce Revolution Inside ClickFunnels full 3 24 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Almost half the speakers at this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE are talking about e-commerce, and there’s a reason why! First, we’ve made some incredible advancements in ClickFunnels' e-commerce engine with the groundbreaking partnership with Zendrop. This partnership allows ClickFunnels users to seamlessly add over a million products to their stores or funnels, revolutionizing the way we approach ecommerce and dropshipping. To highlight the focus on e-commerce at this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE, I inquired from two remarkable speakers for this year’s first-time virtual event, Trey Lewellen and Alison Prince. Trey Lewellen, one of the top e-commerce sellers on the ClickFunnels platform and a co-trainer in the One Funnel Away Challenge, joins me to share his journey and strategies. Trey, who has been with ClickFunnels since the beginning, recounts how he went from struggling to sell a hundred flashlights to generating (truly) unbelievable sales in just a few months (you have to hear the number to believe it - trust me). His story is proof to the power of the spirit of being a #funnelhacker and the power of using ClickFunnels. Trey also gives a sneak peek into his FHL presentation, where he will delve deeper into the tactics and secrets behind his e-commerce success. Then I’ll bring on Alison Prince to share her phenomenal repeatable successes in the world of physical products. Having generated over eight figures in sales on repeat, Alison's expertise in creating and selling simple, yet highly profitable products is unparalleled. She provides a glimpse into her methods and the unique challenges she has developed to help others succeed in e-commerce. Both Trey and Alison will be delivering powerful sessions at Funnel Hacking LIVE, offering invaluable knowledge for anyone looking to scale their e-commerce business. Key Highlights: ClickFunnels Integration with ZenDrop: Discover the latest updates and how to leverage almost unlimited ecommerce products with this dropshipping partnership. Trey Lewellen’s Success Story: Hear how Trey went from zero to $30 million in sales with a single product and more lessons from each launch thereafter. Alison Prince’s Expertise: Gain insights from Alison’s journey to over nine figures in physical product sales and her journey with Funnel Hacking LIVE. FHL Preview: Get a taste of what’s to come at this year’s Funnel Hacking Live, focusing on both e-commerce and info products. Tune in to this episode for a wealth of information and inspiration to take your e-commerce business to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Almost half the speakers at this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE are talking about e-commerce, and there’s a reason why! First, we’ve made some incredible advancements in ClickFunnels' e-commerce engine with the groundbreaking partnership with Zendrop. This partnership allows ClickFunnels users to seamlessly add over a million products to their stores or funnels, revolutionizing the way we approach ecommerce and dropshipping. To highlight the focus on e-commerce at this year’s Funnel Hacking LIVE, I inquired from two remarkable speakers for this year’s first-time virtual event, Trey Lewellen and Alison Prince.

Trey Lewellen, one of the top e-commerce sellers on the ClickFunnels platform and a co-trainer in the One Funnel Away Challenge, joins me to share his journey and strategies. Trey, who has been with ClickFunnels since the beginning, recounts how he went from struggling to sell a hundred flashlights to generating (truly) unbelievable sales in just a few months (you have to hear the number to believe it - trust me). His story is proof to the power of the spirit of being a #funnelhacker and the power of using ClickFunnels. Trey also gives a sneak peek into his FHL presentation, where he will delve deeper into the tactics and secrets behind his e-commerce success.

Then I’ll bring on Alison Prince to share her phenomenal repeatable successes in the world of physical products. Having generated over eight figures in sales on repeat, Alison's expertise in creating and selling simple, yet highly profitable products is unparalleled. She provides a glimpse into her methods and the unique challenges she has developed to help others succeed in e-commerce. Both Trey and Alison will be delivering powerful sessions at Funnel Hacking LIVE, offering invaluable knowledge for anyone looking to scale their e-commerce business.

Key Highlights:

  • ClickFunnels Integration with ZenDrop: Discover the latest updates and how to leverage almost unlimited ecommerce products with this dropshipping partnership.
  • Trey Lewellen’s Success Story: Hear how Trey went from zero to $30 million in sales with a single product and more lessons from each launch thereafter.
  • Alison Prince’s Expertise: Gain insights from Alison’s journey to over nine figures in physical product sales and her journey with Funnel Hacking LIVE.
  • FHL Preview: Get a taste of what’s to come at this year’s Funnel Hacking Live, focusing on both e-commerce and info products.

Tune in to this episode for a wealth of information and inspiration to take your e-commerce business to the next level!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

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]]> 2976 Transforming Knowledge Into Profits - A Sneak Peek Inside Pace Morby’s Private Event A few weeks ago, I had the unique opportunity to speak at Pace Morby's event. Now, I rarely speak at events outside of Funnel Hacking LIVE, but for Pace I made an exception. His community of real estate investors is remarkable, and I was excited to share insights on how they could turn their knowledge into thriving businesses. This presentation was especially thrilling because many attendees weren’t our normal crowd. Most were unfamiliar with online marketing and info products, which allowed me to open up a whole new world of possibilities. During the presentation, I delved into some foundational concepts that have been pivotal in my journey. From Myron Golden’s four levels of value and my three levels of selling, to providing a framework that the attendees could apply immediately. It was a dynamic session where I not only shared the full blueprint, but also showcased how simple ideas can transform into profitable ventures. One of my favorite highlights was discussing the power of selling information products—a business model that I firmly believe is unparalleled in its potential to change lives. Key Highlights: Myron Gold’s Four Levels of Value: Understanding the different levels and how to operate at the highest level. My Three Levels of Selling: Techniques to effectively market and sell your products. Creating Information Products: Insights into turning your knowledge and expertise into a sustainable business. Interactive Q&A: Engaging with the audience and addressing their specific challenges and queries. This episode is packed with actionable advice and real-world examples, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in leveraging their expertise to build a successful business. Tune in and discover how you can turn your ideas into income! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Transforming Knowledge Into Profits - A Sneak Peek Inside Pace Morby’s Private Event full 3 23 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A few weeks ago, I had the unique opportunity to speak at Pace Morby's event. Now, I rarely speak at events outside of Funnel Hacking LIVE, but for Pace I made an exception. His community of real estate investors is remarkable, and I was excited to share insights on how they could turn their knowledge into thriving businesses. This presentation was especially thrilling because many attendees weren’t our normal crowd. Most were unfamiliar with online marketing and info products, which allowed me to open up a whole new world of possibilities. During the presentation, I delved into some foundational concepts that have been pivotal in my journey. From Myron Golden’s four levels of value and my three levels of selling, to providing a framework that the attendees could apply immediately. It was a dynamic session where I not only shared the full blueprint, but also showcased how simple ideas can transform into profitable ventures. One of my favorite highlights was discussing the power of selling information products—a business model that I firmly believe is unparalleled in its potential to change lives. Key Highlights: Myron Gold’s Four Levels of Value: Understanding the different levels and how to operate at the highest level. My Three Levels of Selling: Techniques to effectively market and sell your products. Creating Information Products: Insights into turning your knowledge and expertise into a sustainable business. Interactive Q&A: Engaging with the audience and addressing their specific challenges and queries. This episode is packed with actionable advice and real-world examples, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in leveraging their expertise to build a successful business. Tune in and discover how you can turn your ideas into income! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A few weeks ago, I had the unique opportunity to speak at Pace Morby's event. Now, I rarely speak at events outside of Funnel Hacking LIVE, but for Pace I made an exception. His community of real estate investors is remarkable, and I was excited to share insights on how they could turn their knowledge into thriving businesses. This presentation was especially thrilling because many attendees weren’t our normal crowd. Most were unfamiliar with online marketing and info products, which allowed me to open up a whole new world of possibilities.

During the presentation, I delved into some foundational concepts that have been pivotal in my journey. From Myron Golden’s four levels of value and my three levels of selling, to providing a framework that the attendees could apply immediately. It was a dynamic session where I not only shared the full blueprint, but also showcased how simple ideas can transform into profitable ventures. One of my favorite highlights was discussing the power of selling information products—a business model that I firmly believe is unparalleled in its potential to change lives.

Key Highlights:

  • Myron Gold’s Four Levels of Value: Understanding the different levels and how to operate at the highest level.
  • My Three Levels of Selling: Techniques to effectively market and sell your products.
  • Creating Information Products: Insights into turning your knowledge and expertise into a sustainable business.
  • Interactive Q&A: Engaging with the audience and addressing their specific challenges and queries.

This episode is packed with actionable advice and real-world examples, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in leveraging their expertise to build a successful business. Tune in and discover how you can turn your ideas into income!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 5240 The Future of Marketing in 2025 and Beyond (Big Shifts) The people who are changing the world today have something in common, and I wanted to put them all in one room for you! But first, we have a couple of changes coming to the biggest event of the year! Funnel Hacking LIVE in September just shifted to a whole new model so you can literally experience the entire 4-day experience that has changed more lives than we could possibly count for Free! Join the experience that’s shifted thousands of businesses and defined the shifts happening in the marketing world! See how at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com today! And to prepare, 2 of the speakers who are going to be there are announced on this podcast, and they’re both unified in building their business on ONE key principle: Community. Pace Morby literally outsold every Tony Robbins & Dean Graziosi affiliate combined using a short live to his community that was less than 2-hours. His community is ragingly hot, and there’s a way to make it catch fire and in this episode, he shares more than I thought he would (it’s gold)! And you’ll also hear from Richmond Dinh who’s grown a massive following and broken through glass ceilings the last few years by correctly implementing a simple ‘small community’ strategy to grow your business, especially if you’re just getting started! You may have heard in a previous episode, but if you missed it, we’ve got a refresher (that literally made me an extra 200k). These are the people I’m learning from TODAY who are riding a wave that’s changing the game. As you listen, take note that this is barely a taste of what’s at Funnel Hacking LIVE in September, which you can watch from home and experience for free when you grab your spot at http://www.funnelhackinglive.com. Your future community will thank you! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Future of Marketing in 2025 and Beyond (Big Shifts) full 3 22 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The people who are changing the world today have something in common, and I wanted to put them all in one room for you! But first, we have a couple of changes coming to the biggest event of the year! Funnel Hacking LIVE in September just shifted to a whole new model so you can literally experience the entire 4-day experience that has changed more lives than we could possibly count for Free! Join the experience that’s shifted thousands of businesses and defined the shifts happening in the marketing world! See how at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com today! And to prepare, 2 of the speakers who are going to be there are announced on this podcast, and they’re both unified in building their business on ONE key principle: Community. Pace Morby literally outsold every Tony Robbins & Dean Graziosi affiliate combined using a short live to his community that was less than 2-hours. His community is ragingly hot, and there’s a way to make it catch fire and in this episode, he shares more than I thought he would (it’s gold)! And you’ll also hear from Richmond Dinh who’s grown a massive following and broken through glass ceilings the last few years by correctly implementing a simple ‘small community’ strategy to grow your business, especially if you’re just getting started! You may have heard in a previous episode, but if you missed it, we’ve got a refresher (that literally made me an extra 200k). These are the people I’m learning from TODAY who are riding a wave that’s changing the game. As you listen, take note that this is barely a taste of what’s at Funnel Hacking LIVE in September, which you can watch from home and experience for free when you grab your spot at http://www.funnelhackinglive.com. Your future community will thank you! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The people who are changing the world today have something in common, and I wanted to put them all in one room for you! But first, we have a couple of changes coming to the biggest event of the year!

Funnel Hacking LIVE in September just shifted to a whole new model so you can literally experience the entire 4-day experience that has changed more lives than we could possibly count for Free! Join the experience that’s shifted thousands of businesses and defined the shifts happening in the marketing world! See how at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com today!

And to prepare, 2 of the speakers who are going to be there are announced on this podcast, and they’re both unified in building their business on ONE key principle: Community.

Pace Morby literally outsold every Tony Robbins & Dean Graziosi affiliate combined using a short live to his community that was less than 2-hours. His community is ragingly hot, and there’s a way to make it catch fire and in this episode, he shares more than I thought he would (it’s gold)!

And you’ll also hear from Richmond Dinh who’s grown a massive following and broken through glass ceilings the last few years by correctly implementing a simple ‘small community’ strategy to grow your business, especially if you’re just getting started! You may have heard in a previous episode, but if you missed it, we’ve got a refresher (that literally made me an extra 200k).

These are the people I’m learning from TODAY who are riding a wave that’s changing the game. As you listen, take note that this is barely a taste of what’s at Funnel Hacking LIVE in September, which you can watch from home and experience for free when you grab your spot at http://www.funnelhackinglive.com.

Your future community will thank you!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

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]]> 2747 Codie Sanchez’ Strategies For Creating Business Growth Codie Sanchez, a powerhouse influencer and expert in the world of business acquisition & growth for the everyday entrepreneur. Codie went from her unique background in traditional finance roles to becoming a prominent online figure who teaches people how to buy businesses like laundromats. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, we dive deep into her journey, exploring how she is dominating Instagram and YouTube with her innovative marketing strategies. We delve into the intricacies of her business model, discussing how Codie leverages her expertise to educate others on buying and managing small businesses. She shares her transition from a corporate environment to the entrepreneurial world, offering valuable insights into the mindset and tactics required to thrive in both arenas. This episode is packed with actionable advice, whether you're interested in acquiring businesses or scaling your online presence. Key Highlights: Transitioning from corporate finance to entrepreneurship: Codie’s journey and challenges. Leveraging social media: Strategies Codie used to grow her presence on Instagram and YouTube. The power of newsletters: How Codie started and scaled her newsletter to build a loyal audience. Applying marketing principles to investment products: Codie’s innovative approach to pitching pensions using the Perfect Webinar formula. Building a multi-channel marketing strategy: Insights into Codie's methods for growing her email newsletter and engaging her audience across platforms. Hear Codie Sanchez’s remarkable experience and discover how you can apply these strategies to elevate your own business endeavors! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Codie Sanchez’ Strategies For Creating Business Growth full 3 21 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Codie Sanchez, a powerhouse influencer and expert in the world of business acquisition & growth for the everyday entrepreneur. Codie went from her unique background in traditional finance roles to becoming a prominent online figure who teaches people how to buy businesses like laundromats. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, we dive deep into her journey, exploring how she is dominating Instagram and YouTube with her innovative marketing strategies. We delve into the intricacies of her business model, discussing how Codie leverages her expertise to educate others on buying and managing small businesses. She shares her transition from a corporate environment to the entrepreneurial world, offering valuable insights into the mindset and tactics required to thrive in both arenas. This episode is packed with actionable advice, whether you're interested in acquiring businesses or scaling your online presence. Key Highlights: Transitioning from corporate finance to entrepreneurship: Codie’s journey and challenges. Leveraging social media: Strategies Codie used to grow her presence on Instagram and YouTube. The power of newsletters: How Codie started and scaled her newsletter to build a loyal audience. Applying marketing principles to investment products: Codie’s innovative approach to pitching pensions using the Perfect Webinar formula. Building a multi-channel marketing strategy: Insights into Codie's methods for growing her email newsletter and engaging her audience across platforms. Hear Codie Sanchez’s remarkable experience and discover how you can apply these strategies to elevate your own business endeavors! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Codie Sanchez, a powerhouse influencer and expert in the world of business acquisition & growth for the everyday entrepreneur. Codie went from her unique background in traditional finance roles to becoming a prominent online figure who teaches people how to buy businesses like laundromats. In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, we dive deep into her journey, exploring how she is dominating Instagram and YouTube with her innovative marketing strategies.

We delve into the intricacies of her business model, discussing how Codie leverages her expertise to educate others on buying and managing small businesses. She shares her transition from a corporate environment to the entrepreneurial world, offering valuable insights into the mindset and tactics required to thrive in both arenas. This episode is packed with actionable advice, whether you're interested in acquiring businesses or scaling your online presence.

Key Highlights:

  • Transitioning from corporate finance to entrepreneurship: Codie’s journey and challenges.
  • Leveraging social media: Strategies Codie used to grow her presence on Instagram and YouTube.
  • The power of newsletters: How Codie started and scaled her newsletter to build a loyal audience.
  • Applying marketing principles to investment products: Codie’s innovative approach to pitching pensions using the Perfect Webinar formula.
  • Building a multi-channel marketing strategy: Insights into Codie's methods for growing her email newsletter and engaging her audience across platforms.

Hear Codie Sanchez’s remarkable experience and discover how you can apply these strategies to elevate your own business endeavors!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

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]]> 3580 Small Wins Can Swing Big Doors & Building Momentum Inside One Funnel Away In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the pleasure of joining Dante Torelli for another invigorating Q&A session with our One Funnel Away challengers. It's always energizing to get back and connect with our community of funnelhackers, especially after being away for a bit! Dante and I kicked things off by welcoming new members and celebrating everyone's quick wins - because as we always say, small hinges swing big doors. Throughout the session, we tackled various questions from our dedicated community members. These questions ranged from the technical aspects to the creative challenges that I love to play around with! Each question is an active testament to the hard work and determination inside our community, and it was exciting to see their progress and passion. As you’ll listen, you’ll get special access to hear: Quick Wins Celebration: Emphasizing the importance of small victories in the journey to success. Technical Setup: Tips on integrating payment systems and connecting domains. Content Creation: Strategies for outlining and launching courses, webinars, and funnels. Community Support: The power of sharing wins and supporting each other in the challenge. Mind Mapping: Utilizing mind maps to streamline development and comprehension. Whether you're new to ClickFunnels or the One Funnel Away Challenge or if you’re a seasoned FunnelHacker, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration to help you on your marketing journey. Tune in and let's keep pushing forward - together! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Small Wins Can Swing Big Doors & Building Momentum Inside One Funnel Away full 3 20 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the pleasure of joining Dante Torelli for another invigorating Q&A session with our One Funnel Away challengers. It's always energizing to get back and connect with our community of funnelhackers, especially after being away for a bit! Dante and I kicked things off by welcoming new members and celebrating everyone's quick wins - because as we always say, small hinges swing big doors. Throughout the session, we tackled various questions from our dedicated community members. These questions ranged from the technical aspects to the creative challenges that I love to play around with! Each question is an active testament to the hard work and determination inside our community, and it was exciting to see their progress and passion. As you’ll listen, you’ll get special access to hear: Quick Wins Celebration: Emphasizing the importance of small victories in the journey to success. Technical Setup: Tips on integrating payment systems and connecting domains. Content Creation: Strategies for outlining and launching courses, webinars, and funnels. Community Support: The power of sharing wins and supporting each other in the challenge. Mind Mapping: Utilizing mind maps to streamline development and comprehension. Whether you're new to ClickFunnels or the One Funnel Away Challenge or if you’re a seasoned FunnelHacker, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration to help you on your marketing journey. Tune in and let's keep pushing forward - together! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I had the pleasure of joining Dante Torelli for another invigorating Q&A session with our One Funnel Away challengers. It's always energizing to get back and connect with our community of funnelhackers, especially after being away for a bit! Dante and I kicked things off by welcoming new members and celebrating everyone's quick wins - because as we always say, small hinges swing big doors.

Throughout the session, we tackled various questions from our dedicated community members. These questions ranged from the technical aspects to the creative challenges that I love to play around with! Each question is an active testament to the hard work and determination inside our community, and it was exciting to see their progress and passion.

As you’ll listen, you’ll get special access to hear:

  • Quick Wins Celebration: Emphasizing the importance of small victories in the journey to success.
  • Technical Setup: Tips on integrating payment systems and connecting domains.
  • Content Creation: Strategies for outlining and launching courses, webinars, and funnels.
  • Community Support: The power of sharing wins and supporting each other in the challenge.
  • Mind Mapping: Utilizing mind maps to streamline development and comprehension.

Whether you're new to ClickFunnels or the One Funnel Away Challenge or if you’re a seasoned FunnelHacker, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration to help you on your marketing journey. Tune in and let's keep pushing forward - together!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3609 Inside a YouTuber Success Story: Ali Abdaal’s Journey From Medicine to Mastery On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I have the pleasure of sitting down with Ali Abdaal, one of the most prominent productivity experts on YouTube today. Ali's journey is nothing short of fascinating - starting from reading my emails as a 13-year-old, to becoming a medical doctor, and now being a highly successful YouTuber and entrepreneur. In this episode we dive deep into Ali's unique path and the powerful strategies he's used to grow his online presence and business. From structuring content to optimizing filming days, Ali shares insights that can simplify and expedite your approach to content creation and productivity. Ali and I discuss a variety of topics crucial for anyone looking to enhance their productivity and online business strategy. We cover everything from the importance of organic content marketing to the impact of having a robust sales and marketing knowledge base. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur or a seasoned marketer, the tips and stories Ali shares are incredibly valuable and actionable. Key Highlights: Organic Content Marketing: Discover how Ali used YouTube to boost his business without initially knowing what content marketing was. Structuring Your Content: Learn how to effectively plan and organize your videos and filming days. Productivity Hacks: Ali shares his best practices for maintaining productivity while balancing multiple projects. Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Insights on how Ali overcame his fears and started charging premium prices for his courses. Business Evolution: Understand the transition from a niche market (medical school prep) to a broader audience (productivity and lifestyle). Tune in to hear Ali's story and get ready to take your content creation and productivity to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Inside a YouTuber Success Story: Ali Abdaal’s Journey From Medicine to Mastery full 3 19 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I have the pleasure of sitting down with Ali Abdaal, one of the most prominent productivity experts on YouTube today. Ali's journey is nothing short of fascinating - starting from reading my emails as a 13-year-old, to becoming a medical doctor, and now being a highly successful YouTuber and entrepreneur. In this episode we dive deep into Ali's unique path and the powerful strategies he's used to grow his online presence and business. From structuring content to optimizing filming days, Ali shares insights that can simplify and expedite your approach to content creation and productivity. Ali and I discuss a variety of topics crucial for anyone looking to enhance their productivity and online business strategy. We cover everything from the importance of organic content marketing to the impact of having a robust sales and marketing knowledge base. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur or a seasoned marketer, the tips and stories Ali shares are incredibly valuable and actionable. Key Highlights: Organic Content Marketing: Discover how Ali used YouTube to boost his business without initially knowing what content marketing was. Structuring Your Content: Learn how to effectively plan and organize your videos and filming days. Productivity Hacks: Ali shares his best practices for maintaining productivity while balancing multiple projects. Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Insights on how Ali overcame his fears and started charging premium prices for his courses. Business Evolution: Understand the transition from a niche market (medical school prep) to a broader audience (productivity and lifestyle). Tune in to hear Ali's story and get ready to take your content creation and productivity to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I have the pleasure of sitting down with Ali Abdaal, one of the most prominent productivity experts on YouTube today. Ali's journey is nothing short of fascinating - starting from reading my emails as a 13-year-old, to becoming a medical doctor, and now being a highly successful YouTuber and entrepreneur. In this episode we dive deep into Ali's unique path and the powerful strategies he's used to grow his online presence and business. From structuring content to optimizing filming days, Ali shares insights that can simplify and expedite your approach to content creation and productivity.

Ali and I discuss a variety of topics crucial for anyone looking to enhance their productivity and online business strategy. We cover everything from the importance of organic content marketing to the impact of having a robust sales and marketing knowledge base. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur or a seasoned marketer, the tips and stories Ali shares are incredibly valuable and actionable.

Key Highlights:

  • Organic Content Marketing: Discover how Ali used YouTube to boost his business without initially knowing what content marketing was.
  • Structuring Your Content: Learn how to effectively plan and organize your videos and filming days.
  • Productivity Hacks: Ali shares his best practices for maintaining productivity while balancing multiple projects.
  • Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Insights on how Ali overcame his fears and started charging premium prices for his courses.
  • Business Evolution: Understand the transition from a niche market (medical school prep) to a broader audience (productivity and lifestyle).

Tune in to hear Ali's story and get ready to take your content creation and productivity to the next level!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 4055 Building Your Empire: Q&A Session with Russell Brunson In this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, I continue our engaging Q&A series for the One Funnel Away Challenge. The feedback from our first session was overwhelmingly positive, so I'm excited to keep bringing you these insightful and interactive discussions. Joining me again is Dante Torelli, and together, we're addressing some of the most pressing questions from our vibrant ClickFunnels community. If you're an active ClickFunnels member, don't miss out on these valuable sessions - log in and join the live Q&A every Friday! During this episode, we delve into a range of topics that are essential for entrepreneurs and business owners looking to elevate their online presence and effectiveness. From crafting compelling epiphany bridge stories for B2B contexts to identifying and tapping into hot markets, we provide actionable insights and strategies. Key Highlights: Epiphany Bridge Stories: Learn how to tailor your narrative for B2B markets so it resonates with business owners while addressing their specific pain points. Hot Market Selection: Discover strategies for identifying and leveraging existing markets to create traction for your unique offerings, even if your niche isn't mainstream yet. Motivating Teams: How to increase the output and buy-in from your team while moving potentially lazy employees into productive and clarity Live Q&A Dynamics: Find out how to maximize the value of our live Q&A sessions and get your burning questions answered in real-time by participating in our weekly calls. Whether you're just starting out or looking to refine your approach, this episode is packed with practical advice to help you succeed. Tune in and get ready to take your empire to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Building Your Empire: Q&A Session with Russell Brunson full 3 18 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, I continue our engaging Q&A series for the One Funnel Away Challenge. The feedback from our first session was overwhelmingly positive, so I'm excited to keep bringing you these insightful and interactive discussions. Joining me again is Dante Torelli, and together, we're addressing some of the most pressing questions from our vibrant ClickFunnels community. If you're an active ClickFunnels member, don't miss out on these valuable sessions - log in and join the live Q&A every Friday! During this episode, we delve into a range of topics that are essential for entrepreneurs and business owners looking to elevate their online presence and effectiveness. From crafting compelling epiphany bridge stories for B2B contexts to identifying and tapping into hot markets, we provide actionable insights and strategies. Key Highlights: Epiphany Bridge Stories: Learn how to tailor your narrative for B2B markets so it resonates with business owners while addressing their specific pain points. Hot Market Selection: Discover strategies for identifying and leveraging existing markets to create traction for your unique offerings, even if your niche isn't mainstream yet. Motivating Teams: How to increase the output and buy-in from your team while moving potentially lazy employees into productive and clarity Live Q&A Dynamics: Find out how to maximize the value of our live Q&A sessions and get your burning questions answered in real-time by participating in our weekly calls. Whether you're just starting out or looking to refine your approach, this episode is packed with practical advice to help you succeed. Tune in and get ready to take your empire to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, I continue our engaging Q&A series for the One Funnel Away Challenge. The feedback from our first session was overwhelmingly positive, so I'm excited to keep bringing you these insightful and interactive discussions. Joining me again is Dante Torelli, and together, we're addressing some of the most pressing questions from our vibrant ClickFunnels community. If you're an active ClickFunnels member, don't miss out on these valuable sessions - log in and join the live Q&A every Friday!

During this episode, we delve into a range of topics that are essential for entrepreneurs and business owners looking to elevate their online presence and effectiveness. From crafting compelling epiphany bridge stories for B2B contexts to identifying and tapping into hot markets, we provide actionable insights and strategies.

Key Highlights:

  • Epiphany Bridge Stories: Learn how to tailor your narrative for B2B markets so it resonates with business owners while addressing their specific pain points.
  • Hot Market Selection: Discover strategies for identifying and leveraging existing markets to create traction for your unique offerings, even if your niche isn't mainstream yet.
  • Motivating Teams: How to increase the output and buy-in from your team while moving potentially lazy employees into productive and clarity
  • Live Q&A Dynamics: Find out how to maximize the value of our live Q&A sessions and get your burning questions answered in real-time by participating in our weekly calls.

Whether you're just starting out or looking to refine your approach, this episode is packed with practical advice to help you succeed. Tune in and get ready to take your empire to the next level!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3938 Rap Videos As Viral Marketing Campaigns with Chris Record Recently, I had the pleasure of chatting with Chris Record, a marketing genius known for his viral rap videos. Chris originally did a rap for ClickFunnels just for fun which outperformed an ad that cost 100’s of thousands of dollars. So on this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, we explore the world of short-form content and how it can revolutionize your marketing strategy when it is done correctly. Normally, this kind of insider knowledge is reserved for high-ticket masterminds, but in this episode, Chris and I break down these strategies for everyone. Chris Record and I cover a variety of topics that are essential for marketers looking to stand out in today's digital landscape. From blending education with entertainment to creating content that captures and holds attention, we provide actionable insights that you can start using immediately. Key Highlights: Using Edutainment: Learn how to combine education and entertainment to create engaging marketing content. Powerful Short-Form Content: Discover strategies for crafting short-form videos that drive engagement and conversions. Effective Storytelling: Understand the power of storytelling in making your content memorable and impactful. Series-Based Content: Get tips on developing series-based content to keep your audience hooked. Real Pattern Interrupts: Find out how to use pattern interrupts and the variable reward system to capture attention. Whether you're just starting out or looking to refine your strategy, this episode is packed with valuable advice to help you elevate your marketing game. Tune in and get ready to transform your approach to content creation! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 01 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Rap Videos As Viral Marketing Campaigns with Chris Record full 3 17 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently, I had the pleasure of chatting with Chris Record, a marketing genius known for his viral rap videos. Chris originally did a rap for ClickFunnels just for fun which outperformed an ad that cost 100’s of thousands of dollars. So on this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, we explore the world of short-form content and how it can revolutionize your marketing strategy when it is done correctly. Normally, this kind of insider knowledge is reserved for high-ticket masterminds, but in this episode, Chris and I break down these strategies for everyone. Chris Record and I cover a variety of topics that are essential for marketers looking to stand out in today's digital landscape. From blending education with entertainment to creating content that captures and holds attention, we provide actionable insights that you can start using immediately. Key Highlights: Using Edutainment: Learn how to combine education and entertainment to create engaging marketing content. Powerful Short-Form Content: Discover strategies for crafting short-form videos that drive engagement and conversions. Effective Storytelling: Understand the power of storytelling in making your content memorable and impactful. Series-Based Content: Get tips on developing series-based content to keep your audience hooked. Real Pattern Interrupts: Find out how to use pattern interrupts and the variable reward system to capture attention. Whether you're just starting out or looking to refine your strategy, this episode is packed with valuable advice to help you elevate your marketing game. Tune in and get ready to transform your approach to content creation! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently, I had the pleasure of chatting with Chris Record, a marketing genius known for his viral rap videos. Chris originally did a rap for ClickFunnels just for fun which outperformed an ad that cost 100’s of thousands of dollars. So on this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, we explore the world of short-form content and how it can revolutionize your marketing strategy when it is done correctly. Normally, this kind of insider knowledge is reserved for high-ticket masterminds, but in this episode, Chris and I break down these strategies for everyone.

Chris Record and I cover a variety of topics that are essential for marketers looking to stand out in today's digital landscape. From blending education with entertainment to creating content that captures and holds attention, we provide actionable insights that you can start using immediately.

Key Highlights:

  • Using Edutainment: Learn how to combine education and entertainment to create engaging marketing content.
  • Powerful Short-Form Content: Discover strategies for crafting short-form videos that drive engagement and conversions.
  • Effective Storytelling: Understand the power of storytelling in making your content memorable and impactful.
  • Series-Based Content: Get tips on developing series-based content to keep your audience hooked.
  • Real Pattern Interrupts: Find out how to use pattern interrupts and the variable reward system to capture attention.

Whether you're just starting out or looking to refine your strategy, this episode is packed with valuable advice to help you elevate your marketing game. Tune in and get ready to transform your approach to content creation!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2001 Entrepreneurial Mastery: Q&A Session from the “One Funnel Away Challenge” Recently I started doing Q&A sessions for active ClickFunnels users. To help me out, I've been teaming up with Dante Torelli almost weekly to tackle some of the most pressing questions from our incredible community. Usually this kind of direct Q&A was only available in 10k per month masterminds, but now as part of our revamped One Funnel Away Challenge, we're offering you a front-row seat to hear my insights and strategies on building and scaling your online business. In this episode, Dante and I cover a wide range of topics that are crucial for entrepreneurs at every stage. From managing diverse membership levels to mastering the art of the perfect webinar, we provide you with actionable advice to help you succeed. Key Highlights: Managing Membership Levels: Discover effective strategies for handling memberships with participants at different skill levels. Perfect Webinar Framework: Learn the secrets to teaching and implementing the perfect webinar style for maximum impact. Q&A Dynamics: Find out how to get the most value from live Q&A sessions tailored for both e-commerce and expert-based businesses. One Funnel Away Challenge: Get an inside look at our new 10-day e-commerce and expert challenges, and learn about the benefits of joining our weekly live calls. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting your journey, this episode is packed with the tools and knowledge you need to make a significant impact. Tune in and get ready to take your business to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Entrepreneurial Mastery: Q&A Session from the “One Funnel Away Challenge” full 3 16 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently I started doing Q&A sessions for active ClickFunnels users. To help me out, I've been teaming up with Dante Torelli almost weekly to tackle some of the most pressing questions from our incredible community. Usually this kind of direct Q&A was only available in 10k per month masterminds, but now as part of our revamped One Funnel Away Challenge, we're offering you a front-row seat to hear my insights and strategies on building and scaling your online business. In this episode, Dante and I cover a wide range of topics that are crucial for entrepreneurs at every stage. From managing diverse membership levels to mastering the art of the perfect webinar, we provide you with actionable advice to help you succeed. Key Highlights: Managing Membership Levels: Discover effective strategies for handling memberships with participants at different skill levels. Perfect Webinar Framework: Learn the secrets to teaching and implementing the perfect webinar style for maximum impact. Q&A Dynamics: Find out how to get the most value from live Q&A sessions tailored for both e-commerce and expert-based businesses. One Funnel Away Challenge: Get an inside look at our new 10-day e-commerce and expert challenges, and learn about the benefits of joining our weekly live calls. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting your journey, this episode is packed with the tools and knowledge you need to make a significant impact. Tune in and get ready to take your business to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently I started doing Q&A sessions for active ClickFunnels users. To help me out, I've been teaming up with Dante Torelli almost weekly to tackle some of the most pressing questions from our incredible community. Usually this kind of direct Q&A was only available in 10k per month masterminds, but now as part of our revamped One Funnel Away Challenge, we're offering you a front-row seat to hear my insights and strategies on building and scaling your online business.

In this episode, Dante and I cover a wide range of topics that are crucial for entrepreneurs at every stage. From managing diverse membership levels to mastering the art of the perfect webinar, we provide you with actionable advice to help you succeed.

Key Highlights:

  • Managing Membership Levels: Discover effective strategies for handling memberships with participants at different skill levels.
  • Perfect Webinar Framework: Learn the secrets to teaching and implementing the perfect webinar style for maximum impact.
  • Q&A Dynamics: Find out how to get the most value from live Q&A sessions tailored for both e-commerce and expert-based businesses.
  • One Funnel Away Challenge: Get an inside look at our new 10-day e-commerce and expert challenges, and learn about the benefits of joining our weekly live calls.

Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting your journey, this episode is packed with the tools and knowledge you need to make a significant impact. Tune in and get ready to take your business to the next level!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 4076 Leveraging Media Exposure and Speaking Events with James Malinchak In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m thrilled to have my friend James Malinchak in the office. We both lived in the Dan Kennedy speaking world but from very different paths. Listen as James Malinchak shares… Staying Motivated: James shares his unique approach to staying motivated using a visual reminder - an empty Top Ramen noodles bag. This trick, inspired by Michael Jordan’s mindset, helps him stay driven and focused on his goals. From Speaking to Selling: Discover how James transitioned from being a highly paid speaker to using his speaking engagements as powerful sales platforms. He reveals his strategies for turning speaking opportunities into high-ticket program sales. Behind the Scenes of "Secret Millionaire": James recounts his experience on the hit TV show "Secret Millionaire." Learn how he leveraged this incredible exposure to build his brand, grow his email list, and generate significant business revenue. The Power of Branding: Hear how James positioned himself as "the college speaking guy" to dominate the college speaking market. He discusses the importance of branding and understanding your audience to attract the right clients. Maximizing Media Exposure: James emphasizes the strategic use of media for lead generation and customer acquisition. He explains how to view TV and other media as tools for drawing in leads and building a robust customer base. These are the key lessons to help you leverage every opportunity that comes across your path from one of the best speakers and marketers I know - James Malinchak! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Leveraging Media Exposure and Speaking Events with James Malinchak full 3 15 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m thrilled to have my friend James Malinchak in the office. We both lived in the Dan Kennedy speaking world but from very different paths. Listen as James Malinchak shares… Staying Motivated: James shares his unique approach to staying motivated using a visual reminder - an empty Top Ramen noodles bag. This trick, inspired by Michael Jordan’s mindset, helps him stay driven and focused on his goals. From Speaking to Selling: Discover how James transitioned from being a highly paid speaker to using his speaking engagements as powerful sales platforms. He reveals his strategies for turning speaking opportunities into high-ticket program sales. Behind the Scenes of "Secret Millionaire": James recounts his experience on the hit TV show "Secret Millionaire." Learn how he leveraged this incredible exposure to build his brand, grow his email list, and generate significant business revenue. The Power of Branding: Hear how James positioned himself as "the college speaking guy" to dominate the college speaking market. He discusses the importance of branding and understanding your audience to attract the right clients. Maximizing Media Exposure: James emphasizes the strategic use of media for lead generation and customer acquisition. He explains how to view TV and other media as tools for drawing in leads and building a robust customer base. These are the key lessons to help you leverage every opportunity that comes across your path from one of the best speakers and marketers I know - James Malinchak! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m thrilled to have my friend James Malinchak in the office. We both lived in the Dan Kennedy speaking world but from very different paths.

Listen as James Malinchak shares…

  • Staying Motivated: James shares his unique approach to staying motivated using a visual reminder - an empty Top Ramen noodles bag. This trick, inspired by Michael Jordan’s mindset, helps him stay driven and focused on his goals.
  • From Speaking to Selling: Discover how James transitioned from being a highly paid speaker to using his speaking engagements as powerful sales platforms. He reveals his strategies for turning speaking opportunities into high-ticket program sales.
  • Behind the Scenes of "Secret Millionaire": James recounts his experience on the hit TV show "Secret Millionaire." Learn how he leveraged this incredible exposure to build his brand, grow his email list, and generate significant business revenue.
  • The Power of Branding: Hear how James positioned himself as "the college speaking guy" to dominate the college speaking market. He discusses the importance of branding and understanding your audience to attract the right clients.
  • Maximizing Media Exposure: James emphasizes the strategic use of media for lead generation and customer acquisition. He explains how to view TV and other media as tools for drawing in leads and building a robust customer base.

These are the key lessons to help you leverage every opportunity that comes across your path from one of the best speakers and marketers I know - James Malinchak!

Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels

And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3425 Navigating Growth and Culture with the "Wolf of Wall Street" Jordan Belfort In another "blast-from-the-past" episode, I visit Jordan Belfort (yes the Wolf of Wall Street) on his "Wolf’s Den" podcast! Hear the story of how ClickFunnels was built and scaled, and how we focused on growing through partnerships, reinvesting in ads, and surging user engagement even during Covid-19. And since this occurred during the pandemic, we also discuss the crucial role of entrepreneurship in solving problems and driving change. Check out the full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEun1mHzKc Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Navigating Growth and Culture with the "Wolf of Wall Street" Jordan Belfort full 3 14 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In another "blast-from-the-past" episode, I visit Jordan Belfort (yes the Wolf of Wall Street) on his "Wolf’s Den" podcast! Hear the story of how ClickFunnels was built and scaled, and how we focused on growing through partnerships, reinvesting in ads, and surging user engagement even during Covid-19. And since this occurred during the pandemic, we also discuss the crucial role of entrepreneurship in solving problems and driving change. Check out the full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEun1mHzKc Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In another "blast-from-the-past" episode, I visit Jordan Belfort (yes the Wolf of Wall Street) on his "Wolf’s Den" podcast! Hear the story of how ClickFunnels was built and scaled, and how we focused on growing through partnerships, reinvesting in ads, and surging user engagement even during Covid-19. And since this occurred during the pandemic, we also discuss the crucial role of entrepreneurship in solving problems and driving change.

Check out the full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEun1mHzKc

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]]> 3532 The Art of Instagram Reels Storytelling with Heather Parady In this episode, I sit down with the incredibly talented Heather Parady, a master Instagram storyteller who has captivated me with her unique approach to creating engaging content with Instagram Reels. Heather shares her creative process, revealing how she weaves together compelling narratives in short formats. Heather's dedication to mastering the art of storytelling is truly inspiring, and she shares valuable insights on how to make content more relatable and engaging. Whether you're a marketer, content creator, or simply someone looking to improve your storytelling skills, this episode is packed with practical advice and inspiration. Join us as we geek out over storytelling techniques, the importance of empathy in content creation, and the fascinating ways to blend entertainment with marketing. Follow Heather Parady on Instagram: @heatherparady https://www.instagram.com/heatherparady Books and authors mentioned in this episode: "Big Magic" by Elizabeth Gilbert "The Creative Act" by Rick Rubin "Storyworthy" by Matthew Dicks "The 50th Law" by 50 Cent and Robert Greene Tune in and let’s make storytelling magic happen! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Art of Instagram Reels Storytelling with Heather Parady full 3 13 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode, I sit down with the incredibly talented Heather Parady, a master Instagram storyteller who has captivated me with her unique approach to creating engaging content with Instagram Reels. Heather shares her creative process, revealing how she weaves together compelling narratives in short formats. Heather's dedication to mastering the art of storytelling is truly inspiring, and she shares valuable insights on how to make content more relatable and engaging. Whether you're a marketer, content creator, or simply someone looking to improve your storytelling skills, this episode is packed with practical advice and inspiration. Join us as we geek out over storytelling techniques, the importance of empathy in content creation, and the fascinating ways to blend entertainment with marketing. Follow Heather Parady on Instagram: @heatherparady https://www.instagram.com/heatherparady Books and authors mentioned in this episode: "Big Magic" by Elizabeth Gilbert "The Creative Act" by Rick Rubin "Storyworthy" by Matthew Dicks "The 50th Law" by 50 Cent and Robert Greene Tune in and let’s make storytelling magic happen! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode, I sit down with the incredibly talented Heather Parady, a master Instagram storyteller who has captivated me with her unique approach to creating engaging content with Instagram Reels. Heather shares her creative process, revealing how she weaves together compelling narratives in short formats.

Heather's dedication to mastering the art of storytelling is truly inspiring, and she shares valuable insights on how to make content more relatable and engaging. Whether you're a marketer, content creator, or simply someone looking to improve your storytelling skills, this episode is packed with practical advice and inspiration.

Join us as we geek out over storytelling techniques, the importance of empathy in content creation, and the fascinating ways to blend entertainment with marketing.

Follow Heather Parady on Instagram: @heatherparady

https://www.instagram.com/heatherparady

Books and authors mentioned in this episode:

  • "Big Magic" by Elizabeth Gilbert
  • "The Creative Act" by Rick Rubin
  • "Storyworthy" by Matthew Dicks
  • "The 50th Law" by 50 Cent and Robert Greene

Tune in and let’s make storytelling magic happen!

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]]> 3285 The Calling of Entrepreneurship: Serving Others and Achieving Success with Tom Bilyeu A few years ago, I had the opportunity to visit Tom Bilyeu on his podcast "Impact Theory." While it's a few years old, Tom and I delved into a lot of topics essential for those who feel called to entrepreneurship today. From utilizing economic downturns to disruption marketing and influencer strategies. Plus hear a particular 'emotional resilience technique' I use to stay motivated during tough times. Let’s live into our calling and find both meaning and impact as we build lasting success. You can watch the interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBQQFrUx7wc And don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Calling of Entrepreneurship: Serving Others and Achieving Success with Tom Bilyeu full 3 12 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A few years ago, I had the opportunity to visit Tom Bilyeu on his podcast "Impact Theory." While it's a few years old, Tom and I delved into a lot of topics essential for those who feel called to entrepreneurship today. From utilizing economic downturns to disruption marketing and influencer strategies. Plus hear a particular 'emotional resilience technique' I use to stay motivated during tough times. Let’s live into our calling and find both meaning and impact as we build lasting success. You can watch the interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBQQFrUx7wc And don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A few years ago, I had the opportunity to visit Tom Bilyeu on his podcast "Impact Theory." While it's a few years old, Tom and I delved into a lot of topics essential for those who feel called to entrepreneurship today. From utilizing economic downturns to disruption marketing and influencer strategies.

Plus hear a particular 'emotional resilience technique' I use to stay motivated during tough times. Let’s live into our calling and find both meaning and impact as we build lasting success.

You can watch the interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBQQFrUx7wc

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]]> 3327 Tiny Challenges for Every Size Business with Richmond Dinh Group challenges can be wrought with fear, especially when you’re doing a challenge for the first time. But whether you’ve done zero or 100’s of challenges, pivoting your business to using a ‘Tiny Challenge(TM)’ will not only give you momentum, but unlock your ability to charge more for the same amount of effort. This is how Richmond Dinh is leveraging tiny challenges - plus how Russell’s going to use it at his own level of the value ladder! Follow Richemond Dinh to see his next Tiny Challenge(TM) @coachrichmonddinh https://www.instagram.com/coachrichmonddinh/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Tiny Challenges for Every Size Business with Richmond Dinh full 3 11 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Group challenges can be wrought with fear, especially when you’re doing a challenge for the first time. But whether you’ve done zero or 100’s of challenges, pivoting your business to using a ‘Tiny Challenge(TM)’ will not only give you momentum, but unlock your ability to charge more for the same amount of effort. This is how Richmond Dinh is leveraging tiny challenges - plus how Russell’s going to use it at his own level of the value ladder! Follow Richemond Dinh to see his next Tiny Challenge(TM) @coachrichmonddinh https://www.instagram.com/coachrichmonddinh/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Group challenges can be wrought with fear, especially when you’re doing a challenge for the first time. But whether you’ve done zero or 100’s of challenges, pivoting your business to using a ‘Tiny Challenge(TM)’ will not only give you momentum, but unlock your ability to charge more for the same amount of effort. This is how Richmond Dinh is leveraging tiny challenges - plus how Russell’s going to use it at his own level of the value ladder!


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]]> 2445 Perseverance and Innovation Strategies for Business Growth with Cody Sperber Recently I visited Cody Sperber on his podcast “The Clever Investor Show” and I shared my journey from early business struggles to the success of ClickFunnels. We focus on the importance of perseverance and innovation and, luckily for me, my passion for collecting rare books, especially those by Napoleon Hill, really gave me some ammunition for my journey that hopefully you can use too! Listen in as I dive into the strategies I use to acquire rare and valuable items, showcasing my resourcefulness and dedication. I also discuss the profound insights gained from interactions with high-level thinkers like Tony Robbins, offering listeners a glimpse into the mindset required for both personal and professional growth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Perseverance and Innovation Strategies for Business Growth with Cody Sperber full 3 10 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently I visited Cody Sperber on his podcast “The Clever Investor Show” and I shared my journey from early business struggles to the success of ClickFunnels. We focus on the importance of perseverance and innovation and, luckily for me, my passion for collecting rare books, especially those by Napoleon Hill, really gave me some ammunition for my journey that hopefully you can use too! Listen in as I dive into the strategies I use to acquire rare and valuable items, showcasing my resourcefulness and dedication. I also discuss the profound insights gained from interactions with high-level thinkers like Tony Robbins, offering listeners a glimpse into the mindset required for both personal and professional growth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently I visited Cody Sperber on his podcast “The Clever Investor Show” and I shared my journey from early business struggles to the success of ClickFunnels. We focus on the importance of perseverance and innovation and, luckily for me, my passion for collecting rare books, especially those by Napoleon Hill, really gave me some ammunition for my journey that hopefully you can use too!

Listen in as I dive into the strategies I use to acquire rare and valuable items, showcasing my resourcefulness and dedication. I also discuss the profound insights gained from interactions with high-level thinkers like Tony Robbins, offering listeners a glimpse into the mindset required for both personal and professional growth.

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]]> 3338 What Do You Really Want? Let’s have a conversation - we haven’t done one of those in a while! But while I’m in my wrestling room, let me share a few of the pieces you need to live into what you really want in life. What is the core of what drives each of us? I challenge you to be brutally honest with yourself about why you’re pursuing your current path. We'll explore my path to finding my why and how to identify what you truly want to help you understand the deeper reasons behind your desires. Finding out what truly propels you can bring clarity and ensure your efforts align with your real goals. Let’s uncover not just the surface-level achievements, but define the secret desires fueling your external pursuits. This episode will transform how you understand your ambitions and guide you to finding authentic success. Get your own .BIO domain name for a low price at Porkbun! Go to https://porkbun.com/MarketingSecretsShow24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0000 What Do You Really Want? full 3 9 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Let’s have a conversation - we haven’t done one of those in a while! But while I’m in my wrestling room, let me share a few of the pieces you need to live into what you really want in life. What is the core of what drives each of us? I challenge you to be brutally honest with yourself about why you’re pursuing your current path. We'll explore my path to finding my why and how to identify what you truly want to help you understand the deeper reasons behind your desires. Finding out what truly propels you can bring clarity and ensure your efforts align with your real goals. Let’s uncover not just the surface-level achievements, but define the secret desires fueling your external pursuits. This episode will transform how you understand your ambitions and guide you to finding authentic success. Get your own .BIO domain name for a low price at Porkbun! Go to https://porkbun.com/MarketingSecretsShow24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Let’s have a conversation - we haven’t done one of those in a while! But while I’m in my wrestling room, let me share a few of the pieces you need to live into what you really want in life. What is the core of what drives each of us? I challenge you to be brutally honest with yourself about why you’re pursuing your current path. We'll explore my path to finding my why and how to identify what you truly want to help you understand the deeper reasons behind your desires.

Finding out what truly propels you can bring clarity and ensure your efforts align with your real goals. Let’s uncover not just the surface-level achievements, but define the secret desires fueling your external pursuits. This episode will transform how you understand your ambitions and guide you to finding authentic success.


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]]> 2273 The Key to Consistent Online Success with Omar Eltakrori I recently did an interview on Omar Eltakrori’s show where we both dive deep into the intricacies of selling your expertise online and making more money in 2024. I share some of my best insights on understanding your target audience and consistently providing value through content, especially webinars. We also cover how to structure effective webinars to build a strong connection with your audience, leveraging consistent efforts to alleviate financial worries, and the importance of building a personal brand. If you're looking to scale your business, this episode is packed with valuable strategies on engaging with your audience and mastering the art of online sales. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Key to Consistent Online Success with Omar Eltakrori full 3 8 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I recently did an interview on Omar Eltakrori’s show where we both dive deep into the intricacies of selling your expertise online and making more money in 2024. I share some of my best insights on understanding your target audience and consistently providing value through content, especially webinars. We also cover how to structure effective webinars to build a strong connection with your audience, leveraging consistent efforts to alleviate financial worries, and the importance of building a personal brand. If you're looking to scale your business, this episode is packed with valuable strategies on engaging with your audience and mastering the art of online sales. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I recently did an interview on Omar Eltakrori’s show where we both dive deep into the intricacies of selling your expertise online and making more money in 2024. I share some of my best insights on understanding your target audience and consistently providing value through content, especially webinars.

We also cover how to structure effective webinars to build a strong connection with your audience, leveraging consistent efforts to alleviate financial worries, and the importance of building a personal brand. If you're looking to scale your business, this episode is packed with valuable strategies on engaging with your audience and mastering the art of online sales.

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]]> 3737 Correctly Crafting Offers, Cultivating Traffic & Writing Your Own Ticket with Myron Golden Myron and I set the frame for this episode as a perspective of helping a beginner, what they’d actually do to succeed, but we went in an entirely different direction than I was expecting. Myron shares the foundation of crafting your offer to reach your goals, while utilizing your resources to grow and cultivate an audience fast and quick. If you’re not a beginner, then this episode is going to give you vision on how to craft high ticket offers and sell confidently, such as the 3 million dollar offers Myron sold just last month! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Correctly Crafting Offers, Cultivating Traffic & Writing Your Own Ticket with Myron Golden full 3 7 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Myron and I set the frame for this episode as a perspective of helping a beginner, what they’d actually do to succeed, but we went in an entirely different direction than I was expecting. Myron shares the foundation of crafting your offer to reach your goals, while utilizing your resources to grow and cultivate an audience fast and quick. If you’re not a beginner, then this episode is going to give you vision on how to craft high ticket offers and sell confidently, such as the 3 million dollar offers Myron sold just last month! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Myron and I set the frame for this episode as a perspective of helping a beginner, what they’d actually do to succeed, but we went in an entirely different direction than I was expecting. Myron shares the foundation of crafting your offer to reach your goals, while utilizing your resources to grow and cultivate an audience fast and quick.

If you’re not a beginner, then this episode is going to give you vision on how to craft high ticket offers and sell confidently, such as the 3 million dollar offers Myron sold just last month!

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]]> 3230 Overcoming Challenges and Staying Resilient with Andy Elliott In this episode, I join Andy and Jacqueline Elliott on the “1%er Podcast” to share how my journey in self-development transformed my life and business, taking me from humble beginnings to building a nine-figure enterprise. Discover the secrets behind embracing failure, the importance of self-leadership, and the power of continuous learning. Plus I get to share how pivotal moments in my journey shaped my entrepreneurial mindset. Don't miss this deep, engaging conversation filled with actionable takeaways to help you become the best version of yourself. Check out the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b4or6-GTEE Get your own .BIO domain name for a low price at Porkbun! Go to https://porkbun.com/MarketingSecretsShow24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Overcoming Challenges and Staying Resilient with Andy Elliott full 3 6 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode, I join Andy and Jacqueline Elliott on the “1%er Podcast” to share how my journey in self-development transformed my life and business, taking me from humble beginnings to building a nine-figure enterprise. Discover the secrets behind embracing failure, the importance of self-leadership, and the power of continuous learning. Plus I get to share how pivotal moments in my journey shaped my entrepreneurial mindset. Don't miss this deep, engaging conversation filled with actionable takeaways to help you become the best version of yourself. Check out the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b4or6-GTEE Get your own .BIO domain name for a low price at Porkbun! Go to https://porkbun.com/MarketingSecretsShow24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode, I join Andy and Jacqueline Elliott on the “1%er Podcast” to share how my journey in self-development transformed my life and business, taking me from humble beginnings to building a nine-figure enterprise.

Discover the secrets behind embracing failure, the importance of self-leadership, and the power of continuous learning. Plus I get to share how pivotal moments in my journey shaped my entrepreneurial mindset.

Don't miss this deep, engaging conversation filled with actionable takeaways to help you become the best version of yourself.

Check out the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b4or6-GTEE


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]]> 4280 The Ups and Downs of Entrepreneurship with Trey Lewellen Trey Lewellen created the first 2 Comma Club funnel that made over 1 million dollars with an e-commerce offer. What turned into a ‘maserati bomb’ of cash that led to unprecedented growth problems and success. This is the thrilling story of scaling a real business and how you treat both the successes and the failures to reach your business goals. But you’ll also discover the path Trey recommends for your ecommerce funnel development and sales. Join Trey in the brand new One Funnel Away Challenge at https://onefunnelaway.com Get your own .BIO domain name for a low price at Porkbun! Go to https://porkbun.com/MarketingSecretsShow24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Ups and Downs of Entrepreneurship with Trey Lewellen full 3 5 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Trey Lewellen created the first 2 Comma Club funnel that made over 1 million dollars with an e-commerce offer. What turned into a ‘maserati bomb’ of cash that led to unprecedented growth problems and success. This is the thrilling story of scaling a real business and how you treat both the successes and the failures to reach your business goals. But you’ll also discover the path Trey recommends for your ecommerce funnel development and sales. Join Trey in the brand new One Funnel Away Challenge at https://onefunnelaway.com Get your own .BIO domain name for a low price at Porkbun! Go to https://porkbun.com/MarketingSecretsShow24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Trey Lewellen created the first 2 Comma Club funnel that made over 1 million dollars with an e-commerce offer. What turned into a ‘maserati bomb’ of cash that led to unprecedented growth problems and success. This is the thrilling story of scaling a real business and how you treat both the successes and the failures to reach your business goals. But you’ll also discover the path Trey recommends for your ecommerce funnel development and sales.

Join Trey in the brand new One Funnel Away Challenge at https://onefunnelaway.com


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]]> 4793 Building ClickFunnels to $200M a Year & The Future of Marketing with Ryan Pineda In my first ever podcast guest experience in over three years, I visited with Ryan Pineda on his “Wealthy Way” podcast! We delve into my personal journey, dropping some serious truth bombs on how to conquer marketing fatigue and revealing those coveted insider tips on effectively marketing any business. Check out the full video here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Building ClickFunnels to $200M a Year & The Future of Marketing with Ryan Pineda full 3 4 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In my first ever podcast guest experience in over three years, I visited with Ryan Pineda on his “Wealthy Way” podcast! We delve into my personal journey, dropping some serious truth bombs on how to conquer marketing fatigue and revealing those coveted insider tips on effectively marketing any business. Check out the full video here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In my first ever podcast guest experience in over three years, I visited with Ryan Pineda on his “Wealthy Way” podcast! We delve into my personal journey, dropping some serious truth bombs on how to conquer marketing fatigue and revealing those coveted insider tips on effectively marketing any business.

Check out the full video here!

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]]> 7317 How To Change Your Business with Funny, Inexpensive Ads, with Kristine Mirelle I had the pleasure of sitting down with the incredible Kristine Mirelle, whose journey from selling CDs door-to-door to mastering the art of creating uproariously funny ads will blow your mind. Kristine's knack for turning everyday items and her smartphone into viral ad gold is nothing short of genius. We dive into her inspiring story, from those early days of door-to-door sales to her game-changing approach to advertising. Check out Kristine's page here: LaughMyAdsOff.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000 How To Change Your Business with Funny, Inexpensive Ads, with Kristine Mirelle full 3 3 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I had the pleasure of sitting down with the incredible Kristine Mirelle, whose journey from selling CDs door-to-door to mastering the art of creating uproariously funny ads will blow your mind. Kristine's knack for turning everyday items and her smartphone into viral ad gold is nothing short of genius. We dive into her inspiring story, from those early days of door-to-door sales to her game-changing approach to advertising. Check out Kristine's page here: LaughMyAdsOff.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I had the pleasure of sitting down with the incredible Kristine Mirelle, whose journey from selling CDs door-to-door to mastering the art of creating uproariously funny ads will blow your mind. Kristine's knack for turning everyday items and her smartphone into viral ad gold is nothing short of genius. We dive into her inspiring story, from those early days of door-to-door sales to her game-changing approach to advertising.

Check out Kristine's page here: LaughMyAdsOff.com

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 3279 Correctly Leverage Facebook Groups with Christina Rowe How do you use Facebook Groups to help grow your business? Inside my Inner Circle mastermind, the members voted twice that Christina Rowe had the secrets. So I finally sat down with her to get all of the details about how she leverages Facebook Groups and the possibilities are suddenly endless! Whether you’re looking to leverage a small or large group, the ideas and strategies in this episode will get your mind reeling and the wheels churning! Join The ClickFunnels Group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/ClickFunnels/ And model Christina Rowe’s group: https://WomenHelpingWomen.group Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Correctly Leverage Facebook Groups with Christina Rowe full 3 2 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How do you use Facebook Groups to help grow your business? Inside my Inner Circle mastermind, the members voted twice that Christina Rowe had the secrets. So I finally sat down with her to get all of the details about how she leverages Facebook Groups and the possibilities are suddenly endless! Whether you’re looking to leverage a small or large group, the ideas and strategies in this episode will get your mind reeling and the wheels churning! Join The ClickFunnels Group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/ClickFunnels/ And model Christina Rowe’s group: https://WomenHelpingWomen.group Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How do you use Facebook Groups to help grow your business? Inside my Inner Circle mastermind, the members voted twice that Christina Rowe had the secrets. So I finally sat down with her to get all of the details about how she leverages Facebook Groups and the possibilities are suddenly endless!

Whether you’re looking to leverage a small or large group, the ideas and strategies in this episode will get your mind reeling and the wheels churning!

Join The ClickFunnels Group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/ClickFunnels/

And model Christina Rowe’s group: https://WomenHelpingWomen.group

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]]> 2982 Unleashing Free Instagram Traffic with Edward Collins After months trying to craft a perfect daily publishing strategy, Edward Collins hit gold by accident! Now his current business is almost entirely fueled by free Instagram traffic. This is the perfect process to craft a ‘free content’’ strategy that makes your online sales & funnels take off! Follow My Daily Instagram at @russellbrunson And model Edward Collin by following him: @edwardcollins_upleveled Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Unleashing Free Instagram Traffic with Edward Collins full 3 1 Russell Brunson | YAP Media After months trying to craft a perfect daily publishing strategy, Edward Collins hit gold by accident! Now his current business is almost entirely fueled by free Instagram traffic. This is the perfect process to craft a ‘free content’’ strategy that makes your online sales & funnels take off! Follow My Daily Instagram at @russellbrunson And model Edward Collin by following him: @edwardcollins_upleveled Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices After months trying to craft a perfect daily publishing strategy, Edward Collins hit gold by accident! Now his current business is almost entirely fueled by free Instagram traffic. This is the perfect process to craft a ‘free content’’ strategy that makes your online sales & funnels take off!


Follow My Daily Instagram at @russellbrunson

And model Edward Collin by following him: @edwardcollins_upleveled

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]]> 3223 Unlocking Steve J Larsen’s "Dramatic Demonstrations" Event Steve Larsen and I have hit the stage together many times to unpack the power of Dramatic Demonstrations. And as we gear up for our upcoming book, Steve is orchestrating an extraordinary event just for you! Hear how Dramatic Demonstrations may just be the answer to skyrocketing ad costs, helping you retake control of your lead generation and sales online. Get your ticket before they’re gone! Register For The Event At: https://dramaticdemonstrations.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 26 Apr 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Unlocking Steve J Larsen’s "Dramatic Demonstrations" Event full 2 87 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Steve Larsen and I have hit the stage together many times to unpack the power of Dramatic Demonstrations. And as we gear up for our upcoming book, Steve is orchestrating an extraordinary event just for you! Hear how Dramatic Demonstrations may just be the answer to skyrocketing ad costs, helping you retake control of your lead generation and sales online. Get your ticket before they’re gone! Register For The Event At: https://dramaticdemonstrations.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Steve Larsen and I have hit the stage together many times to unpack the power of Dramatic Demonstrations. And as we gear up for our upcoming book, Steve is orchestrating an extraordinary event just for you! Hear how Dramatic Demonstrations may just be the answer to skyrocketing ad costs, helping you retake control of your lead generation and sales online. Get your ticket before they’re gone!

Register For The Event At:

https://dramaticdemonstrations.com

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]]> 3394 Want Me To Write Your Webinar... (2 People Only!!!) I’m opening a small window for just 2 people, where I’ll work one-on-one with you to write your perfect webinar! Text Me 208-391-3098 - And make sure to follow the instructions exactly! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Want Me To Write Your Webinar... (2 People Only!!!) full 2 86 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I’m opening a small window for just 2 people, where I’ll work one-on-one with you to write your perfect webinar! I’m opening a small window for just 2 people, where I’ll work one-on-one with you to write your perfect webinar! Text Me 208-391-3098 - And make sure to follow the instructions exactly! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I’m opening a small window for just 2 people, where I’ll work one-on-one with you to write your perfect webinar!

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]]> 1471 Change Is Coming… Can You Feel It? As I’m literally on my way to the airport really quick, I wanted to give an update that you don’t want to miss! From changes to the podcast that I teased in the last episode to one of the best Atlas mastermind events in years! Plus new podcast interviews, flying out to see Ryan Pineda and Andy Elliot to learn - there’s a lot of pieces to this strategy puzzle that are all coalescing into big changes! And then I tease a few other things I’d love to get your feedback on (and how to let me know)! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Change Is Coming… Can You Feel It? full 2 85 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I wanted to give an update that you don’t want to miss! From changes to the podcast that I teased in the last episode to one of the best Atlas mastermind events in years! As I’m literally on my way to the airport really quick, I wanted to give an update that you don’t want to miss! From changes to the podcast that I teased in the last episode to one of the best Atlas mastermind events in years! Plus new podcast interviews, flying out to see Ryan Pineda and Andy Elliot to learn - there’s a lot of pieces to this strategy puzzle that are all coalescing into big changes! And then I tease a few other things I’d love to get your feedback on (and how to let me know)! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As I’m literally on my way to the airport really quick, I wanted to give an update that you don’t want to miss! From changes to the podcast that I teased in the last episode to one of the best Atlas mastermind events in years! Plus new podcast interviews, flying out to see Ryan Pineda and Andy Elliot to learn - there’s a lot of pieces to this strategy puzzle that are all coalescing into big changes! And then I tease a few other things I’d love to get your feedback on (and how to let me know)!

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]]> 1179 CRAZY! They Will Pay You To Drive Traffic To Your Own Funnels... I'm checking in from the high seas on a cruise ship with my family. But I've just had a realization. See, for years I've been all about paid ads, but they're getting pricier by the day. That's why I've had a change of heart. Inspired by folks like Rachel Hollis and Cathy Yoder, I'm shifting my focus to content. And my plan is a game-changer! So expect some big shifts on the Marketing Secrets Podcast and everywhere else! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 05 Apr 2024 09:00:00 -0000 CRAZY! They Will Pay You To Drive Traffic To Your Own Funnels... full 2 84 Russell Brunson | YAP Media For years I've been all about paid ads, but they're getting pricier by the day. Inspired by folks like Rachel Hollis and Cathy Yoder, I'm shifting my focus to content. And my plan is a game-changer! I'm checking in from the high seas on a cruise ship with my family. But I've just had a realization. See, for years I've been all about paid ads, but they're getting pricier by the day. That's why I've had a change of heart. Inspired by folks like Rachel Hollis and Cathy Yoder, I'm shifting my focus to content. And my plan is a game-changer! So expect some big shifts on the Marketing Secrets Podcast and everywhere else! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I'm checking in from the high seas on a cruise ship with my family. But I've just had a realization. See, for years I've been all about paid ads, but they're getting pricier by the day. That's why I've had a change of heart. Inspired by folks like Rachel Hollis and Cathy Yoder, I'm shifting my focus to content. And my plan is a game-changer! So expect some big shifts on the Marketing Secrets Podcast and everywhere else!

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]]> 1319 Bible Success Secrets https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/bible-success-secrets On today's episode, I interview Myron Golden, an 8-figure entrepreneur and speaker. Learn how ancient scriptures hold the key to modern success, as Myron shares timeless principles and practical insights. Whether you're a seasoned business pro or seeking personal growth, this discussion will revolutionize your approach. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000 Bible Success Secrets full 2 83 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today's episode, I interview Myron Golden, an 8-figure entrepreneur and speaker. Learn how ancient scriptures hold the key to modern success, as Myron shares timeless principles and practical insights. Whether you're a seasoned business pro or... On today's episode, I interview Myron Golden, an 8-figure entrepreneur and speaker. Learn how ancient scriptures hold the key to modern success, as Myron shares timeless principles and practical insights. Whether you're a seasoned business pro or seeking personal growth, this discussion will revolutionize your approach. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode, I interview Myron Golden, an 8-figure entrepreneur and speaker. Learn how ancient scriptures hold the key to modern success, as Myron shares timeless principles and practical insights. Whether you're a seasoned business pro or seeking personal growth, this discussion will revolutionize your approach.

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]]> 1903 no Life Magnet: Unlocking The Potential of the Subconscious https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/life-magnet-unlocking-the-potential-of-the-subconscious As I was packing for a trip to fly to Miami, I got a message from Todd Dickerson that we had an issue with the platform. I put down the phone and within 10 minutes, my mind magically spun up the answer and when I shared it and the simplicity of the answer it shocked us both. This is how you can command that kind of answer around your 'big dominos' that come up in your life, with a quote from thought movement leader Robert Collier and his book set called "Life Magnet." Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 22 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000 Life Magnet: Unlocking The Potential of the Subconscious full 2 82 Russell Brunson | YAP Media As I was packing for a trip to fly to Miami, I got a message from Todd Dickerson that we had an issue with the platform. I put down the phone and within 10 minutes, my mind magically spun up the answer and when I shared it and the simplicity of the... As I was packing for a trip to fly to Miami, I got a message from Todd Dickerson that we had an issue with the platform. I put down the phone and within 10 minutes, my mind magically spun up the answer and when I shared it and the simplicity of the answer it shocked us both. This is how you can command that kind of answer around your 'big dominos' that come up in your life, with a quote from thought movement leader Robert Collier and his book set called "Life Magnet." Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As I was packing for a trip to fly to Miami, I got a message from Todd Dickerson that we had an issue with the platform. I put down the phone and within 10 minutes, my mind magically spun up the answer and when I shared it and the simplicity of the answer it shocked us both. This is how you can command that kind of answer around your 'big dominos' that come up in your life, with a quote from thought movement leader Robert Collier and his book set called "Life Magnet."

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]]> 1133 no Update on Launching Secrets of Success to $100M Per Year https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/update-on-launching-secrets-of-success-to-100m-per-year We've launched! A few episodes past, I made my plan public to create a $100M per year business from scratch in the next 24 months. This is an update on how that business is doing, from our initial launch to our weekly and monthly activities (including why marketing math sucks). We've made some adjustments and followed a lot of pieces to plan (with a few adjustments). Get all the updates and follow along with me step-by-step to build your business with me by joining the 2CCX Coaching Program at https://www.twocommaclubx.com/ Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 15 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000 Update on Launching Secrets of Success to $100M Per Year full 2 81 Russell Brunson | YAP Media We've launched! A few episodes past, I made my plan public to create a $100M per year business from scratch in the next 24 months. This is an update on how that business is doing, from our initial launch to our weekly and monthly activities (including... We've launched! A few episodes past, I made my plan public to create a $100M per year business from scratch in the next 24 months. This is an update on how that business is doing, from our initial launch to our weekly and monthly activities (including why marketing math sucks). We've made some adjustments and followed a lot of pieces to plan (with a few adjustments). Get all the updates and follow along with me step-by-step to build your business with me by joining the 2CCX Coaching Program at https://www.twocommaclubx.com/ Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices We've launched! A few episodes past, I made my plan public to create a $100M per year business from scratch in the next 24 months. This is an update on how that business is doing, from our initial launch to our weekly and monthly activities (including why marketing math sucks). We've made some adjustments and followed a lot of pieces to plan (with a few adjustments). Get all the updates and follow along with me step-by-step to build your business with me by joining the 2CCX Coaching Program at https://www.twocommaclubx.com/

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]]> 1320 no Redefining Dramatic Demonstrations https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/redefining-dramatic-demonstrations A dramatic demonstration isn't just a challenge or a webinar - it's all of the noise making activities you create to point people to that event. For example, we just prepared a brand new dramatic demonstration with Dan Kennedy's business to create a story around our newest Magnetic Marketing campaign. And there's one key piece that Tim Shields shared at Funnel Hacking LIVE that makes all of this work. This is the process to consolidate time and control your growth by redefining dramatic demonstrations. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 08 Mar 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Redefining Dramatic Demonstrations full 2 80 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A dramatic demonstration isn't just a challenge or a webinar - it's all of the noise making activities you create to point people to that event. For example, we just prepared a brand new dramatic demonstration with Dan Kennedy's business to create a... A dramatic demonstration isn't just a challenge or a webinar - it's all of the noise making activities you create to point people to that event. For example, we just prepared a brand new dramatic demonstration with Dan Kennedy's business to create a story around our newest Magnetic Marketing campaign. And there's one key piece that Tim Shields shared at Funnel Hacking LIVE that makes all of this work. This is the process to consolidate time and control your growth by redefining dramatic demonstrations. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A dramatic demonstration isn't just a challenge or a webinar - it's all of the noise making activities you create to point people to that event. For example, we just prepared a brand new dramatic demonstration with Dan Kennedy's business to create a story around our newest Magnetic Marketing campaign. And there's one key piece that Tim Shields shared at Funnel Hacking LIVE that makes all of this work. This is the process to consolidate time and control your growth by redefining dramatic demonstrations.

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]]> 1360 no My Weird Method for Winning at Shorts, Reels, & TikTok https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-weird-method-for-winning-at-shorts-reels-tiktok We're on the edge of a new trend in shorts, reels and TikTok. Have you seen it? This isn't your traditional shorts script that it seems like everyone is using. This is something entirely new that's taking people from literally 'zero' to tens-of-thousands of followers in one to two weeks! Listen in as I describe where the strategy originated and how we're doubling down in order to take advantage of it as part of my brand new social strategy. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 01 Mar 2024 09:00:00 -0000 My Weird Method for Winning at Shorts, Reels, & TikTok full 2 79 Russell Brunson | YAP Media We're on the edge of a new trend in shorts, reels and TikTok. Have you seen it? This isn't your traditional shorts script that it seems like everyone is using. This is something entirely new that's taking people from literally 'zero' to... We're on the edge of a new trend in shorts, reels and TikTok. Have you seen it? This isn't your traditional shorts script that it seems like everyone is using. This is something entirely new that's taking people from literally 'zero' to tens-of-thousands of followers in one to two weeks! Listen in as I describe where the strategy originated and how we're doubling down in order to take advantage of it as part of my brand new social strategy. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices We're on the edge of a new trend in shorts, reels and TikTok. Have you seen it? This isn't your traditional shorts script that it seems like everyone is using. This is something entirely new that's taking people from literally 'zero' to tens-of-thousands of followers in one to two weeks! Listen in as I describe where the strategy originated and how we're doubling down in order to take advantage of it as part of my brand new social strategy.

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]]> 1418 no How to Increase Sales by 76% - with Jeremy Miner https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-increase-sales-by-76-with-jeremy-miner In this episode, Jeremy Miner shares his game-changing sales techniques that have led to a remarkable 76% increase in sales for those who use them. Say goodbye to old-school sales tactics and hello to a fresh approach that focuses on genuine connections and understanding clients' needs. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 23 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000 How to Increase Sales by 76% - with Jeremy Miner full 2 78 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode, Jeremy Miner shares his game-changing sales techniques that have led to a remarkable 76% increase in sales for those who use them. Say goodbye to old-school sales tactics and hello to a fresh approach that focuses on genuine... In this episode, Jeremy Miner shares his game-changing sales techniques that have led to a remarkable 76% increase in sales for those who use them. Say goodbye to old-school sales tactics and hello to a fresh approach that focuses on genuine connections and understanding clients' needs. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode, Jeremy Miner shares his game-changing sales techniques that have led to a remarkable 76% increase in sales for those who use them. Say goodbye to old-school sales tactics and hello to a fresh approach that focuses on genuine connections and understanding clients' needs.

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]]> 2250 no How To Leverage the Public Domain (Like Walt Disney) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-leverage-the-public-domain-like-walt-disney I've written 3 books, but I don't consider myself an author - I consider myself a curator. Public Domain is the best-kept secret to collecting the best of the past and using it to leverage your current offerings similarly to what Walt Disney did once upon a time. Hear my process for curating the books, topics and ideas that I can present an offer that leverages the public domain! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 16 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000 How To Leverage the Public Domain (Like Walt Disney) full 2 77 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I've written 3 books, but I don't consider myself an author - I consider myself a curator. Public Domain is the best-kept secret to collecting the best of the past and using it to leverage your current offerings similarly to what Walt Disney did once... I've written 3 books, but I don't consider myself an author - I consider myself a curator. Public Domain is the best-kept secret to collecting the best of the past and using it to leverage your current offerings similarly to what Walt Disney did once upon a time. Hear my process for curating the books, topics and ideas that I can present an offer that leverages the public domain! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I've written 3 books, but I don't consider myself an author - I consider myself a curator. Public Domain is the best-kept secret to collecting the best of the past and using it to leverage your current offerings similarly to what Walt Disney did once upon a time. Hear my process for curating the books, topics and ideas that I can present an offer that leverages the public domain!

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]]> 805 no The Power Behind Virtual Curated Events https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-power-behind-virtual-curated-events For those who've done events before in the past, you know how sad it is to see so many powerful moments left in the past after each event is done and gone. But what if there was a way to revive that content and use it to continually sell your high-ticket backend products? You get to be the DJ and remix the messaging to meet each customer where they're at today! Hear the full story behind how we've used curated events with TwoCommaClubLive.com plus a few new ideas of what we may do next with future curated events. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Two Comma Club LIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 09 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000 The Power Behind Virtual Curated Events full 2 76 Russell Brunson | YAP Media For those who've done events before in the past, you know how sad it is to see so many powerful moments left in the past after each event is done and gone. But what if there was a way to revive that content and use it to continually sell your... For those who've done events before in the past, you know how sad it is to see so many powerful moments left in the past after each event is done and gone. But what if there was a way to revive that content and use it to continually sell your high-ticket backend products? You get to be the DJ and remix the messaging to meet each customer where they're at today! Hear the full story behind how we've used curated events with TwoCommaClubLive.com plus a few new ideas of what we may do next with future curated events. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Two Comma Club LIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices For those who've done events before in the past, you know how sad it is to see so many powerful moments left in the past after each event is done and gone. But what if there was a way to revive that content and use it to continually sell your high-ticket backend products? You get to be the DJ and remix the messaging to meet each customer where they're at today! Hear the full story behind how we've used curated events with TwoCommaClubLive.com plus a few new ideas of what we may do next with future curated events.

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]]> 681 no Secrets of the Ages Masterclass https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/secrets-of-the-ages-masterclass Robert Collier's classic book "Secret of the Ages" is a must-read, and since I was doing a full hour masterclass on it for people who are following the Secrets of Success process, I realized this is worth sharing. So while the full masterclass is going to be taken down and not public anymore unless you're in the members area, here is the full audio with myself and a few friends as we break down a classic that's too good to let go of! Register for full access to this and so much more at SecretsOfSuccess.com/roundpegs Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Two Comma Club LIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 02 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Secrets of the Ages Masterclass full 2 75 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Robert Collier's classic book "Secret of the Ages" is a must-read, and since I was doing a full hour masterclass on it for people who are following the Secrets of Success process, I realized this is worth sharing. So while the full masterclass is... Robert Collier's classic book "Secret of the Ages" is a must-read, and since I was doing a full hour masterclass on it for people who are following the Secrets of Success process, I realized this is worth sharing. So while the full masterclass is going to be taken down and not public anymore unless you're in the members area, here is the full audio with myself and a few friends as we break down a classic that's too good to let go of! Register for full access to this and so much more at SecretsOfSuccess.com/roundpegs Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Two Comma Club LIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Robert Collier's classic book "Secret of the Ages" is a must-read, and since I was doing a full hour masterclass on it for people who are following the Secrets of Success process, I realized this is worth sharing. So while the full masterclass is going to be taken down and not public anymore unless you're in the members area, here is the full audio with myself and a few friends as we break down a classic that's too good to let go of! Register for full access to this and so much more at SecretsOfSuccess.com/roundpegs

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]]> 4104 no My Plan To Build A $100M Per Year Business From Scratch https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-plan-to-build-a-100m-per-year-business-from-scratch Have you ever wondered, "What would Russell Brunson do to grow a company to $100M per year?" This episode is going to be a treat, because I've only revealed this plan three times to people who have invested thousands of dollars, and this is the first time I'm revealing my $100M per year plan publicly! Specifically, this is my plan to grow my newest company, Secrets of Success, into a $100M per year business in 24 months and it follows the strategy I've termed, "The Linchpin." And you can see this entire plan in much more detail during our "Two Comma Club LIVE: Linchpin Edition" event starting February 7th through February 9th. Come and check it out at https://twocommaclublive.com and get the entire plan for your business following the exact same blueprint! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Two Comma Club LIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 19 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000 My Plan To Build A $100M Per Year Business From Scratch full 2 74 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Have you ever wondered, "What would Russell Brunson do to grow a company to $100M per year?" This episode is going to be a treat, because I've only revealed this plan three times to people who have invested thousands of dollars, and this is the first... Have you ever wondered, "What would Russell Brunson do to grow a company to $100M per year?" This episode is going to be a treat, because I've only revealed this plan three times to people who have invested thousands of dollars, and this is the first time I'm revealing my $100M per year plan publicly! Specifically, this is my plan to grow my newest company, Secrets of Success, into a $100M per year business in 24 months and it follows the strategy I've termed, "The Linchpin." And you can see this entire plan in much more detail during our "Two Comma Club LIVE: Linchpin Edition" event starting February 7th through February 9th. Come and check it out at https://twocommaclublive.com and get the entire plan for your business following the exact same blueprint! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Two Comma Club LIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Have you ever wondered, "What would Russell Brunson do to grow a company to $100M per year?" This episode is going to be a treat, because I've only revealed this plan three times to people who have invested thousands of dollars, and this is the first time I'm revealing my $100M per year plan publicly! Specifically, this is my plan to grow my newest company, Secrets of Success, into a $100M per year business in 24 months and it follows the strategy I've termed, "The Linchpin." And you can see this entire plan in much more detail during our "Two Comma Club LIVE: Linchpin Edition" event starting February 7th through February 9th. Come and check it out at https://twocommaclublive.com and get the entire plan for your business following the exact same blueprint!

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]]> 1518 no Before You Do ANYTHING Else... FUNNELHACK! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-before-you-do-anything-else-funnelhack Before we do anything in my company, we funnelhack. That includes not just funnels, but our copy, our youtube videos, our facebook and instagrams - everything. And funnelhacking is not copying - it's finding the structures that are proven time and time again. I just funnelhacked to help me craft the structure around my newest book! This is all about coming back to the essence of what works, the foundations of success, and it's time to double down on first funnelhacking what works, then moving forward and taking over the world! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000 Before You Do ANYTHING Else... FUNNELHACK! full 2 73 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Before we do anything in my company, we funnelhack. That includes not just funnels, but our copy, our youtube videos, our facebook and instagrams - everything. And funnelhacking is not copying - it's finding the structures that are proven time and... Before we do anything in my company, we funnelhack. That includes not just funnels, but our copy, our youtube videos, our facebook and instagrams - everything. And funnelhacking is not copying - it's finding the structures that are proven time and time again. I just funnelhacked to help me craft the structure around my newest book! This is all about coming back to the essence of what works, the foundations of success, and it's time to double down on first funnelhacking what works, then moving forward and taking over the world! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Before we do anything in my company, we funnelhack. That includes not just funnels, but our copy, our youtube videos, our facebook and instagrams - everything. And funnelhacking is not copying - it's finding the structures that are proven time and time again. I just funnelhacked to help me craft the structure around my newest book! This is all about coming back to the essence of what works, the foundations of success, and it's time to double down on first funnelhacking what works, then moving forward and taking over the world!

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]]> 727 no WARNING: The Coming Storm Is Almost Here... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/warning-the-coming-storm-is-almost-here My book, "Traffic Secrets" warned of the coming storm for entrepreneurs, and with the uncertainty in 2024, especially since this is an election cycle year, ad costs are set to soar above the roof. We just had a scare internally as well, and so I'm firing off a final warning. If you aren't prepared yet, this is the time to double-down on alternative traffic methods. How do you do it? Listen to how we're doing it and watch what we do next. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 05 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000 WARNING: The Coming Storm Is Almost Here... full 2 72 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My book, "Traffic Secrets" warned of the coming storm for entrepreneurs, and with the uncertainty in 2024, especially since this is an election cycle year, ad costs are set to soar above the roof. We just had a scare internally as well, and so I'm... My book, "Traffic Secrets" warned of the coming storm for entrepreneurs, and with the uncertainty in 2024, especially since this is an election cycle year, ad costs are set to soar above the roof. We just had a scare internally as well, and so I'm firing off a final warning. If you aren't prepared yet, this is the time to double-down on alternative traffic methods. How do you do it? Listen to how we're doing it and watch what we do next. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My book, "Traffic Secrets" warned of the coming storm for entrepreneurs, and with the uncertainty in 2024, especially since this is an election cycle year, ad costs are set to soar above the roof. We just had a scare internally as well, and so I'm firing off a final warning. If you aren't prepared yet, this is the time to double-down on alternative traffic methods. How do you do it? Listen to how we're doing it and watch what we do next.

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]]> 869 no In Your Secret Thoughts, Are You The GOAT? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/in-your-secret-thoughts-are-you-the-goat Be a man who, in his secret thoughts, believes himself to be superior to most men, thus deserving great wealth and power. -Andrew Carnegie Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000 In Your Secret Thoughts, Are You The GOAT? full 2 71 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Be a man who, in his secret thoughts, believes himself to be superior to most men, thus deserving great wealth and power. -Andrew Carnegie Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Be a man who, in his secret thoughts, believes himself to be superior to most men, thus deserving great wealth and power. -Andrew Carnegie Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Be a man who, in his secret thoughts, believes himself to be superior to most men, thus deserving great wealth and power. -Andrew Carnegie

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]]> 938 no Is This One of Our Final Podcast Episodes? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/is-this-one-of-our-final-podcast-episodes Looking back at this year, its ups and its downs, we've had the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. And we may, honestly, be one of the final episodes of the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Hear my honest recap of 2023 along with what's happening next for ClickFunnels (both the why and the where I'm pivoting towards)! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000 Is This One of Our Final Podcast Episodes? full 2 70 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Looking back at this year, its ups and its downs, we've had the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. And we may, honestly, be one of the final episodes of the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Hear my honest recap of 2023 along with what's happening next... Looking back at this year, its ups and its downs, we've had the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. And we may, honestly, be one of the final episodes of the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Hear my honest recap of 2023 along with what's happening next for ClickFunnels (both the why and the where I'm pivoting towards)! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Looking back at this year, its ups and its downs, we've had the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. And we may, honestly, be one of the final episodes of the Marketing Secrets Podcast.

Hear my honest recap of 2023 along with what's happening next for ClickFunnels (both the why and the where I'm pivoting towards)!

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]]> 1064 no (Q&A) Shifting Your Money Mindset for Growth? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-shifting-your-money-mindset-for-growth Dominick Pirone has been a cheerleading-buyer for years, and at the last Inner Circle event he asked how to break through his limiting money beliefs using the tools I've been learning in Secrets of Success. With his permission, I'd like to share with you what I've been learning, because while it's not quite at the point where it's a formulated process or system, it is something I love to discuss and figure out... Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 15 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) Shifting Your Money Mindset for Growth? full 2 69 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Dominick Pirone has been a cheerleading-buyer for years, and at the last Inner Circle event he asked how to break through his limiting money beliefs using the tools I've been learning in Secrets of Success. With his permission, I'd like to share with... Dominick Pirone has been a cheerleading-buyer for years, and at the last Inner Circle event he asked how to break through his limiting money beliefs using the tools I've been learning in Secrets of Success. With his permission, I'd like to share with you what I've been learning, because while it's not quite at the point where it's a formulated process or system, it is something I love to discuss and figure out... Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Dominick Pirone has been a cheerleading-buyer for years, and at the last Inner Circle event he asked how to break through his limiting money beliefs using the tools I've been learning in Secrets of Success. With his permission, I'd like to share with you what I've been learning, because while it's not quite at the point where it's a formulated process or system, it is something I love to discuss and figure out...

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]]> 598 no (Q&A) How Do You Scale Your Webinar? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-how-do-you-scale-your-webinar In our Inner Circle meeting, Anne Truong asked an important question that everyone should hear. She's been following the Expert Secrets strategy to a proverbial "T", but her leads are running out. At the same time, she's growing her Linchpin business spectacularly! In this episode, I'll explain to Anne how to scale her webinar from Expert Secrets and use the Linchpin strategy at the same time to scale massively! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 08 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) How Do You Scale Your Webinar? full 2 68 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In our Inner Circle meeting, Anne Truong asked an important question that everyone should hear. She's been following the Expert Secrets strategy to a proverbial "T", but her leads are running out. At the same time, she's growing her Linchpin business... In our Inner Circle meeting, Anne Truong asked an important question that everyone should hear. She's been following the Expert Secrets strategy to a proverbial "T", but her leads are running out. At the same time, she's growing her Linchpin business spectacularly! In this episode, I'll explain to Anne how to scale her webinar from Expert Secrets and use the Linchpin strategy at the same time to scale massively! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In our Inner Circle meeting, Anne Truong asked an important question that everyone should hear. She's been following the Expert Secrets strategy to a proverbial "T", but her leads are running out. At the same time, she's growing her Linchpin business spectacularly! In this episode, I'll explain to Anne how to scale her webinar from Expert Secrets and use the Linchpin strategy at the same time to scale massively!

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]]> 686 no (Q&A) How Do You Get So Much Done? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-how-do-you-get-so-much-done At my last Inner Circle in Boise, Luke Jaster asked how we keep a through-line in our goals and get things done at such a high level without sacrificing family and values. First I'll share how I organize my process so things get done in the business, and then we'll talk about how I organize my family time. And stay for the end, where I give one of the keys to how we organize and ensure our launches are always on time! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 01 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) How Do You Get So Much Done? full 2 67 Russell Brunson | YAP Media At my last Inner Circle in Boise, Luke Jaster asked how we keep a through-line in our goals and get things done at such a high level without sacrificing family and values. First I'll share how I organize my process so things get done in the business,... At my last Inner Circle in Boise, Luke Jaster asked how we keep a through-line in our goals and get things done at such a high level without sacrificing family and values. First I'll share how I organize my process so things get done in the business, and then we'll talk about how I organize my family time. And stay for the end, where I give one of the keys to how we organize and ensure our launches are always on time! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices At my last Inner Circle in Boise, Luke Jaster asked how we keep a through-line in our goals and get things done at such a high level without sacrificing family and values. First I'll share how I organize my process so things get done in the business, and then we'll talk about how I organize my family time. And stay for the end, where I give one of the keys to how we organize and ensure our launches are always on time!

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]]> 897 no (Q&A) How Do You Scale While Selling With Your Heart? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-how-do-you-scale-while-selling-with-your-heart In a recent Inner Circle meeting, I got a question from Brian Golod and German Glanco who are growing a spectacular business. While their webinar is working great, sales are coming in slowly and they want to scale faster, but still make an impact on those who need extra support. Hear my suggestion on how to balance their goals and their hearts. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 24 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) How Do You Scale While Selling With Your Heart? full 2 66 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In a recent Inner Circle meeting, I got a question from Brian Golod and German Glanco who are growing a spectacular business. While their webinar is working great, sales are coming in slowly and they want to scale faster, but still make an impact on... In a recent Inner Circle meeting, I got a question from Brian Golod and German Glanco who are growing a spectacular business. While their webinar is working great, sales are coming in slowly and they want to scale faster, but still make an impact on those who need extra support. Hear my suggestion on how to balance their goals and their hearts. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In a recent Inner Circle meeting, I got a question from Brian Golod and German Glanco who are growing a spectacular business. While their webinar is working great, sales are coming in slowly and they want to scale faster, but still make an impact on those who need extra support. Hear my suggestion on how to balance their goals and their hearts.

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]]> 923 no (MS) The Elephant, Two Monkeys and a Lizard https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-the-elephant-two-monkeys-and-a-lizard I'm excited to share this presentation I created for a youth entrepreneur event called Unlock the Secrets. I wanted to start by teaching these kids how their brains actually work, but had to do it in an engaging, fun way. So I bought a bunch of big stuffed animals - an elephant, two monkeys, and a lizard. While not perfect, these props allowed me to create a metaphor for understanding the conscious mind, subconscious mind, fears, and how they interact. This is the first and only time I've taught this concept so far. It was powerful for me in understanding how my own mind works, and I think it can help you too. While you're missing the visual of me holding the animals, use your imagination as I walk through this mental model. It provides a framework for things like why we fear, how to reprogram our subconscious, and more. My goal was to help young entrepreneurs grasp how their brains work so they could be more successful. But these principles apply to anyone trying to achieve more in life. Someday I hope to expand this into a full book. For now, I'm proud to deliver this exclusive training on the metaphor of The Elephant, Two Monkeys and a Lizard. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 17 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (MS) The Elephant, Two Monkeys and a Lizard full 2 65 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I'm excited to share this presentation I created for a youth entrepreneur event called Unlock the Secrets. I wanted to start by teaching these kids how their brains actually work, but had to do it in an engaging, fun way. So I bought a bunch of big... I'm excited to share this presentation I created for a youth entrepreneur event called Unlock the Secrets. I wanted to start by teaching these kids how their brains actually work, but had to do it in an engaging, fun way. So I bought a bunch of big stuffed animals - an elephant, two monkeys, and a lizard. While not perfect, these props allowed me to create a metaphor for understanding the conscious mind, subconscious mind, fears, and how they interact. This is the first and only time I've taught this concept so far. It was powerful for me in understanding how my own mind works, and I think it can help you too. While you're missing the visual of me holding the animals, use your imagination as I walk through this mental model. It provides a framework for things like why we fear, how to reprogram our subconscious, and more. My goal was to help young entrepreneurs grasp how their brains work so they could be more successful. But these principles apply to anyone trying to achieve more in life. Someday I hope to expand this into a full book. For now, I'm proud to deliver this exclusive training on the metaphor of The Elephant, Two Monkeys and a Lizard. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I'm excited to share this presentation I created for a youth entrepreneur event called Unlock the Secrets. I wanted to start by teaching these kids how their brains actually work, but had to do it in an engaging, fun way. So I bought a bunch of big stuffed animals - an elephant, two monkeys, and a lizard. While not perfect, these props allowed me to create a metaphor for understanding the conscious mind, subconscious mind, fears, and how they interact.

This is the first and only time I've taught this concept so far. It was powerful for me in understanding how my own mind works, and I think it can help you too. While you're missing the visual of me holding the animals, use your imagination as I walk through this mental model. It provides a framework for things like why we fear, how to reprogram our subconscious, and more.

My goal was to help young entrepreneurs grasp how their brains work so they could be more successful. But these principles apply to anyone trying to achieve more in life. Someday I hope to expand this into a full book. For now, I'm proud to deliver this exclusive training on the metaphor of The Elephant, Two Monkeys and a Lizard.

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]]> 2863 no (SOS) Planting Thought Seeds https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/sos-planting-thought-seeds While I'm driving to the Inner Circle, where I get to share all of the details from my Secrets of Success launch and the strategies that are changing the game, I wanted to talk about the insights from our first 'consumption challenge' covering "How To Get Anything You Want" by Elsie Lincoln Benedict. She shared the reasons we often plant seeds and see either huge success or failure, and it all has to do with the ground in the 'garden of your mind' and how you prepare your moods to stop their reaction and accept the new seeds you're planting. Let me know if you like this episode by taking a screenshot and tagging me, especially if you want a dedicated Secrets of Success podcast! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 10 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (SOS) Planting Thought Seeds full 2 64 Russell Brunson | YAP Media While I'm driving to the Inner Circle, where I get to share all of the details from my Secrets of Success launch and the strategies that are changing the game, I wanted to talk about the insights from our first 'consumption challenge' covering "How To... While I'm driving to the Inner Circle, where I get to share all of the details from my Secrets of Success launch and the strategies that are changing the game, I wanted to talk about the insights from our first 'consumption challenge' covering "How To Get Anything You Want" by Elsie Lincoln Benedict. She shared the reasons we often plant seeds and see either huge success or failure, and it all has to do with the ground in the 'garden of your mind' and how you prepare your moods to stop their reaction and accept the new seeds you're planting. Let me know if you like this episode by taking a screenshot and tagging me, especially if you want a dedicated Secrets of Success podcast! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices While I'm driving to the Inner Circle, where I get to share all of the details from my Secrets of Success launch and the strategies that are changing the game, I wanted to talk about the insights from our first 'consumption challenge' covering "How To Get Anything You Want" by Elsie Lincoln Benedict.

She shared the reasons we often plant seeds and see either huge success or failure, and it all has to do with the ground in the 'garden of your mind' and how you prepare your moods to stop their reaction and accept the new seeds you're planting.

Let me know if you like this episode by taking a screenshot and tagging me, especially if you want a dedicated Secrets of Success podcast!

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]]> 1576 no (MS) Secret Midnight Mastermind with Myron Golden... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-secret-midnight-mastermind-with-myron-golden I was recently at Myron Golden's "Make More Offers Challenge" and we shared a lot of things I haven't talked about before publicly, or I described answers differently than normal. From the principles of success in business and life to identifying your creative purpose by collaborating versus competing, we went deep! This was literally so full of gems, I asked if I could share it with you all - so here are several mindset and tactical tips to help you thrive with myself and Mr. Myron Golden! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 03 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Secret Midnight Mastermind with Myron Golden... full 2 63 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I was recently at Myron Golden's "Make More Offers Challenge" and we shared a lot of things I haven't talked about before publicly, or I described answers differently than normal. From the principles of success in business and life to identifying your... I was recently at Myron Golden's "Make More Offers Challenge" and we shared a lot of things I haven't talked about before publicly, or I described answers differently than normal. From the principles of success in business and life to identifying your creative purpose by collaborating versus competing, we went deep! This was literally so full of gems, I asked if I could share it with you all - so here are several mindset and tactical tips to help you thrive with myself and Mr. Myron Golden! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I was recently at Myron Golden's "Make More Offers Challenge" and we shared a lot of things I haven't talked about before publicly, or I described answers differently than normal. From the principles of success in business and life to identifying your creative purpose by collaborating versus competing, we went deep!

This was literally so full of gems, I asked if I could share it with you all - so here are several mindset and tactical tips to help you thrive with myself and Mr. Myron Golden!

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]]> 4840 no (SOS) Launching "The New Thought Movement" Revival! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/sos-launching-the-new-thought-movement-revival What is up everybody! I am always asked how I would start all over again if I had to start from zero, and I'm doing it right now! My newest business Secrets of Success, is now live! You can see how we are launching it and funnelhack exactly what I am doing at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/bibliomania - and I will explain exactly why we launched with that video specifically as you listen on today's episode! If you want to follow along step-by-step to build your own business as I build mine, apply for the 2CCX program by heading over to https://www.twocommaclubx.com/2ccx-application! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 27 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (SOS) Launching "The New Thought Movement" Revival! full 2 62 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What is up everybody! I am always asked how I would start all over again if I had to start from zero, and I'm doing it right now! My newest business Secrets of Success, is now live! You can see how we are launching it and funnelhack exactly what I am... What is up everybody! I am always asked how I would start all over again if I had to start from zero, and I'm doing it right now! My newest business Secrets of Success, is now live! You can see how we are launching it and funnelhack exactly what I am doing at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/bibliomania - and I will explain exactly why we launched with that video specifically as you listen on today's episode! If you want to follow along step-by-step to build your own business as I build mine, apply for the 2CCX program by heading over to https://www.twocommaclubx.com/2ccx-application! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What is up everybody! I am always asked how I would start all over again if I had to start from zero, and I'm doing it right now! My newest business Secrets of Success, is now live! You can see how we are launching it and funnelhack exactly what I am doing at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/bibliomania - and I will explain exactly why we launched with that video specifically as you listen on today's episode! If you want to follow along step-by-step to build your own business as I build mine, apply for the 2CCX program by heading over to https://www.twocommaclubx.com/2ccx-application!

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]]> 580 no (MS) Should Russell Brunson Run For President? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-should-russell-brunson-run-for-president If I was running for office, this is exactly how I would market myself. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 20 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Should Russell Brunson Run For President? full 2 61 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If I was running for office, this is exactly how I would market myself. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at If I was running for office, this is exactly how I would market myself. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If I was running for office, this is exactly how I would market myself.

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]]> 720 no (MS) Behind The Scenes of the Secrets of Success Launch https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-behind-the-scenes-of-the-secrets-of-success-launch I'm often asked how I would launch a brand new business if I started all over again. Lucky for you, I'm actually doing that right now! Hear the launch plan, from leveraging both my own Dream 100 and Affiliates' Dream 100, the ultimate offer we've created and the funnel step-by-step. Join the launch at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/jv Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 13 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Behind The Scenes of the Secrets of Success Launch full 2 60 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I'm often asked how I would launch a brand new business if I started all over again. Lucky for you, I'm actually doing that right now! Hear the launch plan, from leveraging both my own Dream 100 and Affiliates' Dream 100, the ultimate offer we've... I'm often asked how I would launch a brand new business if I started all over again. Lucky for you, I'm actually doing that right now! Hear the launch plan, from leveraging both my own Dream 100 and Affiliates' Dream 100, the ultimate offer we've created and the funnel step-by-step. Join the launch at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/jv Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I'm often asked how I would launch a brand new business if I started all over again. Lucky for you, I'm actually doing that right now! Hear the launch plan, from leveraging both my own Dream 100 and Affiliates' Dream 100, the ultimate offer we've created and the funnel step-by-step. Join the launch at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/jv

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]]> 527 no (MS) FHL 2023 Recap & Imperfect Presentations https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-fhl-2023-recap-imperfect-presentations Funnel Hacking LIVE is officially over! And so I decided that what I really wanted to do today was record the audiobook of a 1.5 Million Dollar book I purchased! But before that, I've got some lessons to share from this year's Funnel Hacking LIVE. From the structure of the event to the presentation prep, I learned a lot personally. I actually tested my most recent 'Secrets of Success' presentation (it was actually the last podcast episode), and it did not land the way I wanted it to. Hear the lesson I've learned & become a part of the Secrets of Success JV army at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/jv Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 06 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) FHL 2023 Recap & Imperfect Presentations full 2 59 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Funnel Hacking LIVE is officially over! And so I decided that what I really wanted to do today was record the audiobook of a 1.5 Million Dollar book I purchased! But before that, I've got some lessons to share from this year's Funnel Hacking LIVE.... Funnel Hacking LIVE is officially over! And so I decided that what I really wanted to do today was record the audiobook of a 1.5 Million Dollar book I purchased! But before that, I've got some lessons to share from this year's Funnel Hacking LIVE. From the structure of the event to the presentation prep, I learned a lot personally. I actually tested my most recent 'Secrets of Success' presentation (it was actually the last podcast episode), and it did not land the way I wanted it to. Hear the lesson I've learned & become a part of the Secrets of Success JV army at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/jv Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Funnel Hacking LIVE is officially over! And so I decided that what I really wanted to do today was record the audiobook of a 1.5 Million Dollar book I purchased! But before that, I've got some lessons to share from this year's Funnel Hacking LIVE. From the structure of the event to the presentation prep, I learned a lot personally. I actually tested my most recent 'Secrets of Success' presentation (it was actually the last podcast episode), and it did not land the way I wanted it to. Hear the lesson I've learned & become a part of the Secrets of Success JV army at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/jv

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]]> 1173 no (MS) The Calling Vs Resistance (From FHL 2023!!!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-the-calling-vs-resistance-from-fhl-2023 Hot off the press! I literally just gave my welcome presentation at Funnel Hacking LIVE 2023, and I wanted to share this with you as soon as possible! A lot of our people are searching for success and only finding resistance. These are the secrets to overcoming resistance and living in your calling so you can actively make the change you were born to create. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) The Calling Vs Resistance (From FHL 2023!!!) full 2 58 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Hot off the press! I literally just gave my welcome presentation at Funnel Hacking LIVE 2023, and I wanted to share this with you as soon as possible! A lot of our people are searching for success and only finding resistance. These are the secrets to... Hot off the press! I literally just gave my welcome presentation at Funnel Hacking LIVE 2023, and I wanted to share this with you as soon as possible! A lot of our people are searching for success and only finding resistance. These are the secrets to overcoming resistance and living in your calling so you can actively make the change you were born to create. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hot off the press! I literally just gave my welcome presentation at Funnel Hacking LIVE 2023, and I wanted to share this with you as soon as possible! A lot of our people are searching for success and only finding resistance. These are the secrets to overcoming resistance and living in your calling so you can actively make the change you were born to create.

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]]> 3186 no (MS) How to Overcome Drifting So You Can Reach Your Goals https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-how-to-overcome-drifting-so-you-can-reach-your-goals Right now I'm working on the intro presentation for Funnel Hacking LIVE in less than a week, which is Phase 2 of last year's opening presentation, "The Drifter VS The Driven." So I decided that the best way to prepare you for what's coming is for you to relisten to the presentation that people have called my best presentation ever. So listen into Part 1 from last year and I can't wait to show you everything we're preparing for you at Funnel Hacking LIVE! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) How to Overcome Drifting So You Can Reach Your Goals full 2 57 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Right now I'm working on the intro presentation for Funnel Hacking LIVE in less than a week, which is Phase 2 of last year's opening presentation, "The Drifter VS The Driven." So I decided that the best way to prepare you for what's coming is for you... Right now I'm working on the intro presentation for Funnel Hacking LIVE in less than a week, which is Phase 2 of last year's opening presentation, "The Drifter VS The Driven." So I decided that the best way to prepare you for what's coming is for you to relisten to the presentation that people have called my best presentation ever. So listen into Part 1 from last year and I can't wait to show you everything we're preparing for you at Funnel Hacking LIVE! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Right now I'm working on the intro presentation for Funnel Hacking LIVE in less than a week, which is Phase 2 of last year's opening presentation, "The Drifter VS The Driven." So I decided that the best way to prepare you for what's coming is for you to relisten to the presentation that people have called my best presentation ever. So listen into Part 1 from last year and I can't wait to show you everything we're preparing for you at Funnel Hacking LIVE!

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]]> 4367 no Level 10 Critical Marketing Strategy https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/level-10-critical-marketing-strategy So I just did a last minute, unplanned, pop-up webinar to share something a little bit early (you know how I am with secrets)! Right now, I'm knee-deep preparing slides and presentations for Funnel Hacking LIVE, and this 'Diamond in the Rough' marketing strategy NEEDED to be shared before the event! So I've had my team upload the webinar for you to listen to in this episode, then make sure to go and grab your tickets for Funnel Hacking LIVE before prices double or we sell out (because we sell out EVERY YEAR)! Secure your spot at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com today! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sat, 16 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000 Level 10 Critical Marketing Strategy full 2 56 Russell Brunson | YAP Media So I just did a last minute, unplanned, pop-up webinar to share something a little bit early (you know how I am with secrets)! Right now, I'm knee-deep preparing slides and presentations for Funnel Hacking LIVE, and this 'Diamond in the Rough'... So I just did a last minute, unplanned, pop-up webinar to share something a little bit early (you know how I am with secrets)! Right now, I'm knee-deep preparing slides and presentations for Funnel Hacking LIVE, and this 'Diamond in the Rough' marketing strategy NEEDED to be shared before the event! So I've had my team upload the webinar for you to listen to in this episode, then make sure to go and grab your tickets for Funnel Hacking LIVE before prices double or we sell out (because we sell out EVERY YEAR)! Secure your spot at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com today! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices So I just did a last minute, unplanned, pop-up webinar to share something a little bit early (you know how I am with secrets)! Right now, I'm knee-deep preparing slides and presentations for Funnel Hacking LIVE, and this 'Diamond in the Rough' marketing strategy NEEDED to be shared before the event! So I've had my team upload the webinar for you to listen to in this episode, then make sure to go and grab your tickets for Funnel Hacking LIVE before prices double or we sell out (because we sell out EVERY YEAR)! Secure your spot at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com today!

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]]> 2829 no (MS) Applying "The War of Art" to Overcome Resistance https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-applying-the-war-of-art-to-overcome-resistance We've shut it all down! It's 2 weeks before Funnel Hacking LIVE and that means I'm preparing presentations for 2 weeks straight and nothing else. Other teams work on what they need to, but my focus is to finish 11 new presentations for this Funnel Hacking LIVE and a lot of the inspiration for this year's focus is coming from a book called "The War of Art" by Steven Pressfield. My first introductory presentation is the one I'm most proud of because it sets the tone for the event and the attendees beliefs and who they're trying to become. This is how I'm fighting resistance to prepare for the greatest Funnel Hacking LIVE ever! Grab your ticket at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com/ Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Applying "The War of Art" to Overcome Resistance full 2 55 Russell Brunson | YAP Media We've shut it all down! It's 2 weeks before Funnel Hacking LIVE and that means I'm preparing presentations for 2 weeks straight and nothing else. Other teams work on what they need to, but my focus is to finish 11 new presentations for this Funnel... We've shut it all down! It's 2 weeks before Funnel Hacking LIVE and that means I'm preparing presentations for 2 weeks straight and nothing else. Other teams work on what they need to, but my focus is to finish 11 new presentations for this Funnel Hacking LIVE and a lot of the inspiration for this year's focus is coming from a book called "The War of Art" by Steven Pressfield. My first introductory presentation is the one I'm most proud of because it sets the tone for the event and the attendees beliefs and who they're trying to become. This is how I'm fighting resistance to prepare for the greatest Funnel Hacking LIVE ever! Grab your ticket at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com/ Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices We've shut it all down! It's 2 weeks before Funnel Hacking LIVE and that means I'm preparing presentations for 2 weeks straight and nothing else. Other teams work on what they need to, but my focus is to finish 11 new presentations for this Funnel Hacking LIVE and a lot of the inspiration for this year's focus is coming from a book called "The War of Art" by Steven Pressfield. My first introductory presentation is the one I'm most proud of because it sets the tone for the event and the attendees beliefs and who they're trying to become. This is how I'm fighting resistance to prepare for the greatest Funnel Hacking LIVE ever! Grab your ticket at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com/

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]]> 813 no The "Afford It" Masterclass featuring Steve J. Larsen https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-afford-it-masterclass-featuring-steve-j-larsen As the buzz builds around Funnel Hacking LIVE, I've been getting a lot of questions about how to afford a ticket to Funnel Hacking LIVE on a budget. And I knew exactly who to turn to for the best advice - the incomparable Steve Larsen! Would he be willing to divulge his top tips for rapidly generating an extra $2000 to cover the costs of attending? The answer was a resounding yes! So a few days ago, Steve revealed his strategies in an electrifying live session and the content was so valuable, I knew we couldn't keep it to ourselves. So I decided to bring it to you in podcast form, so that no one misses out on Steve's expert guidance. Don't miss this opportunity to learn how to secure your spot at Funnel Hacking LIVE. We are eagerly counting down the days until we can welcome you in person at the event. Join us for this special podcast episode and take a step closer to being part of the excitement at Funnel Hacking LIVE! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 12 Sep 2023 18:00:00 -0000 The "Afford It" Masterclass featuring Steve J. Larsen full 2 54 Russell Brunson | YAP Media As the buzz builds around Funnel Hacking LIVE, I've been getting a lot of questions about how to afford a ticket to Funnel Hacking LIVE on a budget. And I knew exactly who to turn to for the best advice - the incomparable Steve Larsen! Would he be... As the buzz builds around Funnel Hacking LIVE, I've been getting a lot of questions about how to afford a ticket to Funnel Hacking LIVE on a budget. And I knew exactly who to turn to for the best advice - the incomparable Steve Larsen! Would he be willing to divulge his top tips for rapidly generating an extra $2000 to cover the costs of attending? The answer was a resounding yes! So a few days ago, Steve revealed his strategies in an electrifying live session and the content was so valuable, I knew we couldn't keep it to ourselves. So I decided to bring it to you in podcast form, so that no one misses out on Steve's expert guidance. Don't miss this opportunity to learn how to secure your spot at Funnel Hacking LIVE. We are eagerly counting down the days until we can welcome you in person at the event. Join us for this special podcast episode and take a step closer to being part of the excitement at Funnel Hacking LIVE! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As the buzz builds around Funnel Hacking LIVE, I've been getting a lot of questions about how to afford a ticket to Funnel Hacking LIVE on a budget. And I knew exactly who to turn to for the best advice - the incomparable Steve Larsen! Would he be willing to divulge his top tips for rapidly generating an extra $2000 to cover the costs of attending? The answer was a resounding yes!

So a few days ago, Steve revealed his strategies in an electrifying live session and the content was so valuable, I knew we couldn't keep it to ourselves. So I decided to bring it to you in podcast form, so that no one misses out on Steve's expert guidance.

Don't miss this opportunity to learn how to secure your spot at Funnel Hacking LIVE. We are eagerly counting down the days until we can welcome you in person at the event. Join us for this special podcast episode and take a step closer to being part of the excitement at Funnel Hacking LIVE!

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]]> 6736 no (MS) My 3 Best Ideas to Fill a Live or Virtual Event https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-my-3-best-ideas-to-fill-a-live-or-virtual-event We just had a Decade in a Day and someone asked me a question that's actually on my mind a lot right now - "How do you sell tickets for an event?" So let's get into the strategy of when to announce, how to sell tickets and what drives customers to buy tickets and when they traditionally move. Plus get a sneak peak into a campaign we're about to launch! And don't forget to grab your tickets for Funnel Hacking LIVE at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 08 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) My 3 Best Ideas to Fill a Live or Virtual Event full 2 53 Russell Brunson | YAP Media We just had a Decade in a Day and someone asked me a question that's actually on my mind a lot right now - "How do you sell tickets for an event?" So let's get into the strategy of when to announce, how to sell tickets and what drives customers to buy... We just had a Decade in a Day and someone asked me a question that's actually on my mind a lot right now - "How do you sell tickets for an event?" So let's get into the strategy of when to announce, how to sell tickets and what drives customers to buy tickets and when they traditionally move. Plus get a sneak peak into a campaign we're about to launch! And don't forget to grab your tickets for Funnel Hacking LIVE at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices We just had a Decade in a Day and someone asked me a question that's actually on my mind a lot right now - "How do you sell tickets for an event?" So let's get into the strategy of when to announce, how to sell tickets and what drives customers to buy tickets and when they traditionally move. Plus get a sneak peak into a campaign we're about to launch! And don't forget to grab your tickets for Funnel Hacking LIVE at https://www.funnelhackinglive.com

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]]> 626 no (MS) "Get It Done" Hacks for Entrepreneurs https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-get-it-done-hacks-for-entrepreneurs With Funnel Hacking LIVE coming in less than 30 days, plus all of the projects we finally get to reveal, and all of the traveling we've been doing as a family, some people are asking how I get so much done. So, here's a few of my hacks to help me focus in a world that seems to demand more and more, plus a preview of my presentation at Funnel Hacking LIVE! (if you don't have a ticket, don't wait... go to https://www.funnelhackinglive.com - they're going fast!) Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 01 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) "Get It Done" Hacks for Entrepreneurs full 2 52 Russell Brunson | YAP Media With Funnel Hacking LIVE coming in less than 30 days, plus all of the projects we finally get to reveal, and all of the traveling we've been doing as a family, some people are asking how I get so much done. So, here's a few of my hacks to help me... With Funnel Hacking LIVE coming in less than 30 days, plus all of the projects we finally get to reveal, and all of the traveling we've been doing as a family, some people are asking how I get so much done. So, here's a few of my hacks to help me focus in a world that seems to demand more and more, plus a preview of my presentation at Funnel Hacking LIVE! (if you don't have a ticket, don't wait... go to https://www.funnelhackinglive.com - they're going fast!) Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices With Funnel Hacking LIVE coming in less than 30 days, plus all of the projects we finally get to reveal, and all of the traveling we've been doing as a family, some people are asking how I get so much done. So, here's a few of my hacks to help me focus in a world that seems to demand more and more, plus a preview of my presentation at Funnel Hacking LIVE! (if you don't have a ticket, don't wait... go to https://www.funnelhackinglive.com - they're going fast!)

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]]> 825 no (MS) The Controversial Hormozi "Leads Book" Launch https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-the-controversial-hormozi-leads-book-launch Alex Hormozi just did a big 'controversial' launch for his new book "100M Leads" and everyone's asking for my opinion on it. So here's my thoughts after our history together, including my take on the launch, our messages behind the scenes, and our differences in launch & content styles. Plus the strategies you need to choose, specifically how we're staying ahead of the AI revolution using the ONE thing that'll set you apart, including how the Hormozi's are capitalizing on this over the long-term. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) The Controversial Hormozi "Leads Book" Launch full 2 51 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Alex Hormozi just did a big 'controversial' launch for his new book "100M Leads" and everyone's asking for my opinion on it. So here's my thoughts after our history together, including my take on the launch, our messages behind the scenes, and our... Alex Hormozi just did a big 'controversial' launch for his new book "100M Leads" and everyone's asking for my opinion on it. So here's my thoughts after our history together, including my take on the launch, our messages behind the scenes, and our differences in launch & content styles. Plus the strategies you need to choose, specifically how we're staying ahead of the AI revolution using the ONE thing that'll set you apart, including how the Hormozi's are capitalizing on this over the long-term. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Alex Hormozi just did a big 'controversial' launch for his new book "100M Leads" and everyone's asking for my opinion on it. So here's my thoughts after our history together, including my take on the launch, our messages behind the scenes, and our differences in launch & content styles. Plus the strategies you need to choose, specifically how we're staying ahead of the AI revolution using the ONE thing that'll set you apart, including how the Hormozi's are capitalizing on this over the long-term.

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]]> 1529 no (VRE) Supplement Funnels & Stories Using The Linchpin! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/vre-supplement-funnels-stories-using-the-linchpin I just launched 3 different Supplement Funnels that follow The Linchpin strategy. But supplements have been essential to not only ClickFunnels' growth, but my own! Since I was a kid, I wanted to own a supplement brand. And now, I've done it multiple times. Hear the whole story, including the poin-points you can avoid and strategies you can use to launch and grow your business (whether or not it's in supplements). And checkout the 3 new funnels here: - Supplement Secrets Webinar: https://www.supplementsecrets.com - Revenge Body Challenge: https://www.getyourrevengebody.com - Body Evolution Challenge: https://www.bodyevolution.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (VRE) Supplement Funnels & Stories Using The Linchpin! full 2 50 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I just launched 3 different Supplement Funnels that follow The Linchpin strategy. But supplements have been essential to not only ClickFunnels' growth, but my own! Since I was a kid, I wanted to own a supplement brand. And now, I've done it multiple... I just launched 3 different Supplement Funnels that follow The Linchpin strategy. But supplements have been essential to not only ClickFunnels' growth, but my own! Since I was a kid, I wanted to own a supplement brand. And now, I've done it multiple times. Hear the whole story, including the poin-points you can avoid and strategies you can use to launch and grow your business (whether or not it's in supplements). And checkout the 3 new funnels here: - Supplement Secrets Webinar: https://www.supplementsecrets.com - Revenge Body Challenge: https://www.getyourrevengebody.com - Body Evolution Challenge: https://www.bodyevolution.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I just launched 3 different Supplement Funnels that follow The Linchpin strategy. But supplements have been essential to not only ClickFunnels' growth, but my own! Since I was a kid, I wanted to own a supplement brand. And now, I've done it multiple times. Hear the whole story, including the poin-points you can avoid and strategies you can use to launch and grow your business (whether or not it's in supplements).

And checkout the 3 new funnels here: - Supplement Secrets Webinar: https://www.supplementsecrets.com - Revenge Body Challenge: https://www.getyourrevengebody.com - Body Evolution Challenge: https://www.bodyevolution.com

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]]> 1238 no (MS) Stepping Off the Battlefield to Win the War https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-stepping-off-the-battlefield-to-win-the-war I just got back from one of my favorite trips I've ever been on. From spending 10 days in Kenya with my wife and kids, then seeing a war-torn country, and ending in a life-changing experience in Israel seeing the religious sites and experiencing the history. But I've always struggled with 'vacations', so I brought books and journals and found an answer that gave me (and can hopefully give you) the ability to step out of the battle field, find higher ground, see the chessboard so you can create your gameplan, choose the key battles you need to win and jump back into your business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Stepping Off the Battlefield to Win the War full 2 49 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I just got back from one of my favorite trips I've ever been on. From spending 10 days in Kenya with my wife and kids, then seeing a war-torn country, and ending in a life-changing experience in Israel seeing the religious sites and experiencing the... I just got back from one of my favorite trips I've ever been on. From spending 10 days in Kenya with my wife and kids, then seeing a war-torn country, and ending in a life-changing experience in Israel seeing the religious sites and experiencing the history. But I've always struggled with 'vacations', so I brought books and journals and found an answer that gave me (and can hopefully give you) the ability to step out of the battle field, find higher ground, see the chessboard so you can create your gameplan, choose the key battles you need to win and jump back into your business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I just got back from one of my favorite trips I've ever been on. From spending 10 days in Kenya with my wife and kids, then seeing a war-torn country, and ending in a life-changing experience in Israel seeing the religious sites and experiencing the history.

But I've always struggled with 'vacations', so I brought books and journals and found an answer that gave me (and can hopefully give you) the ability to step out of the battle field, find higher ground, see the chessboard so you can create your gameplan, choose the key battles you need to win and jump back into your business.

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]]> 1182 no (MS) Launching “PLR Funnels” Using The Linchpin https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms_launching_plr_funnels_using_the_linchpinmp3 Need a launch idea? Hear how we took a friend's product and turned it into an epic offer that I think will win a 2CC-X award this year. Plus, we follow the strategy I keep bringing up - "The Linchpin" - which has become the doctrine for every business we work with. This is the secret to growing and scaling your business without having to build ANY new products using the Linchpin! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 04 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Launching “PLR Funnels” Using The Linchpin full 2 48 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Need a launch idea? Hear how we took a friend's product and turned it into an epic offer that I think will win a 2CC-X award this year. Plus, we follow the strategy I keep bringing up - "The Linchpin" - which has become the doctrine for every business... Need a launch idea? Hear how we took a friend's product and turned it into an epic offer that I think will win a 2CC-X award this year. Plus, we follow the strategy I keep bringing up - "The Linchpin" - which has become the doctrine for every business we work with. This is the secret to growing and scaling your business without having to build ANY new products using the Linchpin! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Need a launch idea? Hear how we took a friend's product and turned it into an epic offer that I think will win a 2CC-X award this year. Plus, we follow the strategy I keep bringing up - "The Linchpin" - which has become the doctrine for every business we work with. This is the secret to growing and scaling your business without having to build ANY new products using the Linchpin!

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]]> 1140 no (MS) The Opportunity I've Missed For Two Decades… https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-the-opportunity-ive-missed-for-two-decades How do you GET PAID to advertise your own product, before they even hit your funnel? Now I consume ferociously and I've seen trends come and go, and for two decades I've missed this ONE thing. But after hearing a friend re-frame this idea, I'm putting massive focus behind this one piece I've been missing. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) The Opportunity I've Missed For Two Decades… full 2 47 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How do you GET PAID to advertise your own product, before they even hit your funnel? Now I consume ferociously and I've seen trends come and go, and for two decades I've missed this ONE thing. But after hearing a friend re-frame this idea, I'm putting... How do you GET PAID to advertise your own product, before they even hit your funnel? Now I consume ferociously and I've seen trends come and go, and for two decades I've missed this ONE thing. But after hearing a friend re-frame this idea, I'm putting massive focus behind this one piece I've been missing. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How do you GET PAID to advertise your own product, before they even hit your funnel? Now I consume ferociously and I've seen trends come and go, and for two decades I've missed this ONE thing. But after hearing a friend re-frame this idea, I'm putting massive focus behind this one piece I've been missing.

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]]> 1053 no (MS) Linchpin: The Three Simple Keys To Building Your Linchpin - (Part 2 of 2) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-linchpin-the-three-simple-keys-to-building-your-linchpin-part-2-of-2 In our last episode, I showed how we used Webinar Funnels to grow ClickFunnels into the Category King of funnel software. But there's ONE STEP that we didn't realize we had done that made ALL of the difference, and we're doubling down on it across all of our businesses. Here's how to take any webinar, challenge or event to the next level using my newest framework 'The Linchpin'! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Linchpin: The Three Simple Keys To Building Your Linchpin - (Part 2 of 2) full 2 46 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In our last episode, I showed how we used Webinar Funnels to grow ClickFunnels into the Category King of funnel software. But there's ONE STEP that we didn't realize we had done that made ALL of the difference, and we're doubling down on it across all... In our last episode, I showed how we used Webinar Funnels to grow ClickFunnels into the Category King of funnel software. But there's ONE STEP that we didn't realize we had done that made ALL of the difference, and we're doubling down on it across all of our businesses. Here's how to take any webinar, challenge or event to the next level using my newest framework 'The Linchpin'! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In our last episode, I showed how we used Webinar Funnels to grow ClickFunnels into the Category King of funnel software. But there's ONE STEP that we didn't realize we had done that made ALL of the difference, and we're doubling down on it across all of our businesses. Here's how to take any webinar, challenge or event to the next level using my newest framework 'The Linchpin'!

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]]> 1199 no (MS) Linchpin: Two Beliefs Required to Make This Work For YOU - (Part 1 of 2) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-linchpin-two-beliefs-required-to-make-this-work-for-you-part-1-of-2 About a month ago, I did a special presentation for a friend that, for the first time, explained my newest framework called "The Linchpin" in possibly the simplest way yet, starting with the key strategy to ClickFunnels' drastic growth in the past. I've cut it into 2-parts, and in this episode I'll break down how we turned ClickFunnels into the success story it is today, and in part 2 we'll show you how to take your strategy to the next level using 'The Linchpin'! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 14 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Linchpin: Two Beliefs Required to Make This Work For YOU - (Part 1 of 2) full 2 45 Russell Brunson | YAP Media About a month ago, I did a special presentation for a friend that, for the first time, explained my newest framework called "The Linchpin" in possibly the simplest way yet, starting with the key strategy to ClickFunnels' drastic growth in the past.... About a month ago, I did a special presentation for a friend that, for the first time, explained my newest framework called "The Linchpin" in possibly the simplest way yet, starting with the key strategy to ClickFunnels' drastic growth in the past. I've cut it into 2-parts, and in this episode I'll break down how we turned ClickFunnels into the success story it is today, and in part 2 we'll show you how to take your strategy to the next level using 'The Linchpin'! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices About a month ago, I did a special presentation for a friend that, for the first time, explained my newest framework called "The Linchpin" in possibly the simplest way yet, starting with the key strategy to ClickFunnels' drastic growth in the past. I've cut it into 2-parts, and in this episode I'll break down how we turned ClickFunnels into the success story it is today, and in part 2 we'll show you how to take your strategy to the next level using 'The Linchpin'!

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]]> 2219 no (MS) The Strangest Secret, Have You Heard This Story? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-the-strangest-secret-have-you-heard-this-story If you've heard the audio recording from Earl Nightingale called "The Strangest Secret", this is the story behind it; and how it can help you to change the world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 07 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) The Strangest Secret, Have You Heard This Story? full 2 44 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you've heard the audio recording from Earl Nightingale called "The Strangest Secret", this is the story behind it; and how it can help you to change the world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at If you've heard the audio recording from Earl Nightingale called "The Strangest Secret", this is the story behind it; and how it can help you to change the world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you've heard the audio recording from Earl Nightingale called "The Strangest Secret", this is the story behind it; and how it can help you to change the world.

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]]> 1122 no (MS) FHL Topics & Speakers REVEALED - Part 2 of 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-fhl-topics-speakers-revealed-part-2-of-2 Funnel Hacking LIVE IX kicks off in less than 100 days. If you want the inside-track on who's speaking, plus the over-arching goal of this year's entire event, then listen to both Part 1 and Part 2 of this FHL Reveal series and claim your tickets to Funnel Hacking LIVE IX by going to https://www.funnelhackinglive.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 30 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) FHL Topics & Speakers REVEALED - Part 2 of 2 full 2 43 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Funnel Hacking LIVE IX kicks off in less than 100 days. If you want the inside-track on who's speaking, plus the over-arching goal of this year's entire event, then listen to both Part 1 and Part 2 of this FHL Reveal series and claim your tickets to... Funnel Hacking LIVE IX kicks off in less than 100 days. If you want the inside-track on who's speaking, plus the over-arching goal of this year's entire event, then listen to both Part 1 and Part 2 of this FHL Reveal series and claim your tickets to Funnel Hacking LIVE IX by going to https://www.funnelhackinglive.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Funnel Hacking LIVE IX kicks off in less than 100 days. If you want the inside-track on who's speaking, plus the over-arching goal of this year's entire event, then listen to both Part 1 and Part 2 of this FHL Reveal series and claim your tickets to Funnel Hacking LIVE IX by going to https://www.funnelhackinglive.com.

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]]> 1909 no (MS) FHL Topics & Speakers REVEALED - Part 1 of 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-fhl-topics-speakers-revealed-part-1-of-2 It's time! In less than 100 days, Funnel Hacking LIVE IX starts and we'll show you the strategies we're using to lead the industry! If you've wanted all the details on what we'll be talking about, step-by-step, plus the speakers who'll be presenting, you don't want to miss this reveal-all webinar I put on. Listen in and claim your tickets to Funnel Hacking LIVE IX by going to FunnelHackingLIVE.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 23 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) FHL Topics & Speakers REVEALED - Part 1 of 2 full 2 42 Russell Brunson | YAP Media It's time! In less than 100 days, Funnel Hacking LIVE IX starts and we'll show you the strategies we're using to lead the industry! If you've wanted all the details on what we'll be talking about, step-by-step, plus the speakers who'll be presenting,... It's time! In less than 100 days, Funnel Hacking LIVE IX starts and we'll show you the strategies we're using to lead the industry! If you've wanted all the details on what we'll be talking about, step-by-step, plus the speakers who'll be presenting, you don't want to miss this reveal-all webinar I put on. Listen in and claim your tickets to Funnel Hacking LIVE IX by going to FunnelHackingLIVE.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices It's time! In less than 100 days, Funnel Hacking LIVE IX starts and we'll show you the strategies we're using to lead the industry! If you've wanted all the details on what we'll be talking about, step-by-step, plus the speakers who'll be presenting, you don't want to miss this reveal-all webinar I put on. Listen in and claim your tickets to Funnel Hacking LIVE IX by going to FunnelHackingLIVE.com.

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]]> 2876 no (MS) You're One Funnel Away - Part 2 (Revisited) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-youre-one-funnel-away-part-2-revisited This is part two of my Funnel Hacking LIVE presentation from 2017. I wanted to toss-up this replay to remind you that when everything goes wrong, funnels have been the answer for me over and over and over, and I know they will be for you. So listen in to part two where funnels not only saved me from near bankruptcy and prison, they led to building ClickFunnels with my partner, Todd Dickerson. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sat, 17 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) You're One Funnel Away - Part 2 (Revisited) full 2 41 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is part two of my Funnel Hacking LIVE presentation from 2017. I wanted to toss-up this replay to remind you that when everything goes wrong, funnels have been the answer for me over and over and over, and I know they will be for you. So listen in... This is part two of my Funnel Hacking LIVE presentation from 2017. I wanted to toss-up this replay to remind you that when everything goes wrong, funnels have been the answer for me over and over and over, and I know they will be for you. So listen in to part two where funnels not only saved me from near bankruptcy and prison, they led to building ClickFunnels with my partner, Todd Dickerson. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is part two of my Funnel Hacking LIVE presentation from 2017. I wanted to toss-up this replay to remind you that when everything goes wrong, funnels have been the answer for me over and over and over, and I know they will be for you. So listen in to part two where funnels not only saved me from near bankruptcy and prison, they led to building ClickFunnels with my partner, Todd Dickerson.

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]]> 1735 no (MS) You're One Funnel Away - Part 1 (Revisited) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-youre-one-funnel-away-part-1-revisited In 2017, I recorded this podcast with a recap of my (then) most recent Funnel Hacking LIVE presentation entitled, "You're One Funnel Away". As we've been developing the funnel strategies further and further, I wanted to take a moment and touch base again on this concept, because it's core to everything we're doing. And while you listen to this 2-part episode, listen and relate your business to my story, specifically in this episode - how I saved Christmas with a funnel. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 16 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) You're One Funnel Away - Part 1 (Revisited) full 2 40 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In 2017, I recorded this podcast with a recap of my (then) most recent Funnel Hacking LIVE presentation entitled, "You're One Funnel Away". As we've been developing the funnel strategies further and further, I wanted to take a moment and touch base... In 2017, I recorded this podcast with a recap of my (then) most recent Funnel Hacking LIVE presentation entitled, "You're One Funnel Away". As we've been developing the funnel strategies further and further, I wanted to take a moment and touch base again on this concept, because it's core to everything we're doing. And while you listen to this 2-part episode, listen and relate your business to my story, specifically in this episode - how I saved Christmas with a funnel. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In 2017, I recorded this podcast with a recap of my (then) most recent Funnel Hacking LIVE presentation entitled, "You're One Funnel Away". As we've been developing the funnel strategies further and further, I wanted to take a moment and touch base again on this concept, because it's core to everything we're doing. And while you listen to this 2-part episode, listen and relate your business to my story, specifically in this episode - how I saved Christmas with a funnel.

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]]> 1802 no (VRE) Supplement Secrets: What Should Entrepreneurs Actually Take? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/vre-supplement-secrets-what-should-entrepreneurs-actually-take I keep getting people who ask me, "Russell, why are you talking about Supplements?" Let's talk about that, because not only was a Supplement Funnel the case study that initially sold ClickFunnels' success for years, but it's been my #1 biohack to increased energy and focus. Listen to the full story and see exactly why I'm opening up about this for possibly this one and only time at https://www.supplementsecrets.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing SupplementSecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 08 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (VRE) Supplement Secrets: What Should Entrepreneurs Actually Take? full 2 39 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I keep getting people who ask me, "Russell, why are you talking about Supplements?" Let's talk about that, because not only was a Supplement Funnel the case study that initially sold ClickFunnels' success for years, but it's been my #1 biohack to... I keep getting people who ask me, "Russell, why are you talking about Supplements?" Let's talk about that, because not only was a Supplement Funnel the case study that initially sold ClickFunnels' success for years, but it's been my #1 biohack to increased energy and focus. Listen to the full story and see exactly why I'm opening up about this for possibly this one and only time at https://www.supplementsecrets.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing SupplementSecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I keep getting people who ask me, "Russell, why are you talking about Supplements?" Let's talk about that, because not only was a Supplement Funnel the case study that initially sold ClickFunnels' success for years, but it's been my #1 biohack to increased energy and focus.

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]]> 2866 no (MS) The Million Dollar Offer... (Part 3 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-the-million-dollar-offer-part-3-of-3 At this point, the event has launched where Russell shows the full library, the books that have been collected and more. However, Russell wanted to give you an inside look at the first time he introduced the Million Dollar Offer in Mexico. If you're interested in getting a seat license, you can put down your deposit at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/invest And if nothing else, let this inspire you to take the leap when you're uncertain, just as you'll hear Russell do as he made his Million Dollar Offer. Watch the full reveal at: https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/atlas Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 02 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) The Million Dollar Offer... (Part 3 of 3) full 2 38 Russell Brunson | YAP Media At this point, the event has launched where Russell shows the full library, the books that have been collected and more. However, Russell wanted to give you an inside look at the first time he introduced the Million Dollar Offer in Mexico. If you're... At this point, the event has launched where Russell shows the full library, the books that have been collected and more. However, Russell wanted to give you an inside look at the first time he introduced the Million Dollar Offer in Mexico. If you're interested in getting a seat license, you can put down your deposit at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/invest And if nothing else, let this inspire you to take the leap when you're uncertain, just as you'll hear Russell do as he made his Million Dollar Offer. Watch the full reveal at: https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/atlas Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices At this point, the event has launched where Russell shows the full library, the books that have been collected and more. However, Russell wanted to give you an inside look at the first time he introduced the Million Dollar Offer in Mexico. If you're interested in getting a seat license, you can put down your deposit at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/invest

And if nothing else, let this inspire you to take the leap when you're uncertain, just as you'll hear Russell do as he made his Million Dollar Offer.

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]]> 2247 no (MS) Your PRIVATE Invitation to the ‘Napoleon Hill’ Groundbreaking Event (Part 2 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-your-private-invitation-to-the-napoleon-hill-groundbreaking-event-part-2-of-3 Russell was turned down for a loan to build his library, so instead he made a "1 Million Dollar Offer" to a small group of people in Mexico to fund the vision. When the vision is clear, entrepreneurs are the ones who choose to find a way to make that vision a reality. This is how you can craft a million dollar offer. Make sure to watch the full webinar announcement at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/atlas Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 01 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Your PRIVATE Invitation to the ‘Napoleon Hill’ Groundbreaking Event (Part 2 of 3) full 2 37 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell was turned down for a loan to build his library, so instead he made a "1 Million Dollar Offer" to a small group of people in Mexico to fund the vision. When the vision is clear, entrepreneurs are the ones who choose to find a way to make that... Russell was turned down for a loan to build his library, so instead he made a "1 Million Dollar Offer" to a small group of people in Mexico to fund the vision. When the vision is clear, entrepreneurs are the ones who choose to find a way to make that vision a reality. This is how you can craft a million dollar offer. Make sure to watch the full webinar announcement at https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/atlas Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell was turned down for a loan to build his library, so instead he made a "1 Million Dollar Offer" to a small group of people in Mexico to fund the vision. When the vision is clear, entrepreneurs are the ones who choose to find a way to make that vision a reality. This is how you can craft a million dollar offer.

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]]> 749 no (MS) Russell's CrAzY Vision, and Why You Should Care (Part 1 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-russells-crazy-vision-and-why-you-should-care-part-1-of-3 Russell's been working on a secret all-consuming project, with box-after-box being delivered to his office. And with each box, the staff began to wonder if Russell needed an intervention. But Russell's about to reveal everything, the full vision including how he's about to raise the banner higher for entrepreneurs with "Secrets of Success"... Register for the announcement webinar by going to https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/atlas Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 31 May 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Russell's CrAzY Vision, and Why You Should Care (Part 1 of 3) full 2 36 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell's been working on a secret all-consuming project, with box-after-box being delivered to his office. And with each box, the staff began to wonder if Russell needed an intervention. But Russell's about to reveal everything, the full vision... Russell's been working on a secret all-consuming project, with box-after-box being delivered to his office. And with each box, the staff began to wonder if Russell needed an intervention. But Russell's about to reveal everything, the full vision including how he's about to raise the banner higher for entrepreneurs with "Secrets of Success"... Register for the announcement webinar by going to https://www.secretsofsuccess.com/atlas Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell's been working on a secret all-consuming project, with box-after-box being delivered to his office. And with each box, the staff began to wonder if Russell needed an intervention. But Russell's about to reveal everything, the full vision including how he's about to raise the banner higher for entrepreneurs with "Secrets of Success"...

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]]> 1137 no (MS) Announcing Speakers at Funnel Hacking LIVE IX https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-announcing-speakers-at-funnel-hacking-live-ix Funnel Hacking LIVE has always followed a specific framework and cadence, but for FHL IX we are massively changing things up! We'll be revealing the full framework to help you stay profitable in your advertising, even with all of the fighting between Zuck and Tim and ad costs going up over & over on repeat for the last few years. This is going to be the most in-depth event on the framework we've used across every business to outspend our competition and scale easier and faster than ever. AKA - this is a game changer for everyone who'll be there, not to mention an AMAZING musical performance that is not to be missed! See who's speaking, who's singing and all the details at www.FunnelHackingLIVE.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 26 May 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Announcing Speakers at Funnel Hacking LIVE IX full 2 35 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Funnel Hacking LIVE has always followed a specific framework and cadence, but for FHL IX we are massively changing things up! We'll be revealing the full framework to help you stay profitable in your advertising, even with all of the fighting between... Funnel Hacking LIVE has always followed a specific framework and cadence, but for FHL IX we are massively changing things up! We'll be revealing the full framework to help you stay profitable in your advertising, even with all of the fighting between Zuck and Tim and ad costs going up over & over on repeat for the last few years. This is going to be the most in-depth event on the framework we've used across every business to outspend our competition and scale easier and faster than ever. AKA - this is a game changer for everyone who'll be there, not to mention an AMAZING musical performance that is not to be missed! See who's speaking, who's singing and all the details at www.FunnelHackingLIVE.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Funnel Hacking LIVE has always followed a specific framework and cadence, but for FHL IX we are massively changing things up! We'll be revealing the full framework to help you stay profitable in your advertising, even with all of the fighting between Zuck and Tim and ad costs going up over & over on repeat for the last few years. This is going to be the most in-depth event on the framework we've used across every business to outspend our competition and scale easier and faster than ever. AKA - this is a game changer for everyone who'll be there, not to mention an AMAZING musical performance that is not to be missed! See who's speaking, who's singing and all the details at www.FunnelHackingLIVE.com.

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]]> 791 no (MS) Inner Circle - What We’re Building Into The NEW Value Ladder for ClickFunnels 2.0 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-inner-circle-what-were-building-into-the-new-value-ladder-for-clickfunnels-20 If you've been listening for a while, you'll remember our discussions about the Linchpin strategy and our launch of ClickFunnels 2.0. Since our launch, we've put many of our old funnels on ClickFunnels Classic on pause and have been rebuilding our Value Ladder. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 19 May 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Inner Circle - What We’re Building Into The NEW Value Ladder for ClickFunnels 2.0 full 2 34 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you've been listening for a while, you'll remember our discussions about the Linchpin strategy and our launch of ClickFunnels 2.0. Since our launch, we've put many of our old funnels on ClickFunnels Classic on pause and have been rebuilding our... If you've been listening for a while, you'll remember our discussions about the Linchpin strategy and our launch of ClickFunnels 2.0. Since our launch, we've put many of our old funnels on ClickFunnels Classic on pause and have been rebuilding our Value Ladder. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you've been listening for a while, you'll remember our discussions about the Linchpin strategy and our launch of ClickFunnels 2.0. Since our launch, we've put many of our old funnels on ClickFunnels Classic on pause and have been rebuilding our Value Ladder.

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]]> 613 no (MS) Pirates Cove - 2 Moves To Prepare For A Recession https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-pirates-cove-2-moves-to-prepare-for-a-recession Here's a quick snippet of the conversation I had with my elite Inner Circle members about 2 moves I'd recommend taking to profit from upcoming recessions. Once a year my Atlas Group meets with me at a private getaway called Pirates Cove. That's where we share not only our big-wins with each other, but the strategies we're taking for the future. During my most recent trip, I spoke to everyone about how we did during the last recession, and the steps we're taking to prepare for and maximize our returns during the next recession. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 12 May 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Pirates Cove - 2 Moves To Prepare For A Recession full 2 33 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here's a quick snippet of the conversation I had with my elite Inner Circle members about 2 moves I'd recommend taking to profit from upcoming recessions. Once a year my Atlas Group meets with me at a private getaway called Pirates Cove. That's where... Here's a quick snippet of the conversation I had with my elite Inner Circle members about 2 moves I'd recommend taking to profit from upcoming recessions. Once a year my Atlas Group meets with me at a private getaway called Pirates Cove. That's where we share not only our big-wins with each other, but the strategies we're taking for the future. During my most recent trip, I spoke to everyone about how we did during the last recession, and the steps we're taking to prepare for and maximize our returns during the next recession. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here's a quick snippet of the conversation I had with my elite Inner Circle members about 2 moves I'd recommend taking to profit from upcoming recessions. Once a year my Atlas Group meets with me at a private getaway called Pirates Cove. That's where we share not only our big-wins with each other, but the strategies we're taking for the future. During my most recent trip, I spoke to everyone about how we did during the last recession, and the steps we're taking to prepare for and maximize our returns during the next recession.

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]]> 774 no (MS) The Return of FunnelHacker TV! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-the-return-of-funnelhacker-tv FunnelHacker TV is back! And I want to introduce you to the two newest hosts: Susan Leonardson and Ben Moote! Listen as we talk about the relaunch of FunnelHacker TV, insights from the last Inner Circle meeting they attended, plus where to catch all of the newest episodes! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 05 May 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) The Return of FunnelHacker TV! full 2 32 Russell Brunson | YAP Media FunnelHacker TV is back! And I want to introduce you to the two newest hosts: Susan Leonardson and Ben Moote! Listen as we talk about the relaunch of FunnelHacker TV, insights from the last Inner Circle meeting they attended, plus where to catch all... FunnelHacker TV is back! And I want to introduce you to the two newest hosts: Susan Leonardson and Ben Moote! Listen as we talk about the relaunch of FunnelHacker TV, insights from the last Inner Circle meeting they attended, plus where to catch all of the newest episodes! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices FunnelHacker TV is back! And I want to introduce you to the two newest hosts: Susan Leonardson and Ben Moote! Listen as we talk about the relaunch of FunnelHacker TV, insights from the last Inner Circle meeting they attended, plus where to catch all of the newest episodes!

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]]> 2544 no (MS) Secrets of Success - Part 3: The 6 Keys to Building Faith https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-secrets-of-success-part-3-the-6-keys-to-building-faith This is it! Part 3 of my private mastermind on my frameworks for Secrets of Success! While there are a lot of "frameworks" out there, this is the culmination where we bring other strategies in to support your goals and give you the confidence to keep moving forward! If you do enjoy this episode, please follow the full journey by following my new Instagram profile for Secrets of Success at https://www.instagram.com/secretsofsuccess/ Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 28 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Secrets of Success - Part 3: The 6 Keys to Building Faith full 2 31 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is it! Part 3 of my private mastermind on my frameworks for Secrets of Success! While there are a lot of "frameworks" out there, this is the culmination where we bring other strategies in to support your goals and give you the confidence to keep... This is it! Part 3 of my private mastermind on my frameworks for Secrets of Success! While there are a lot of "frameworks" out there, this is the culmination where we bring other strategies in to support your goals and give you the confidence to keep moving forward! If you do enjoy this episode, please follow the full journey by following my new Instagram profile for Secrets of Success at https://www.instagram.com/secretsofsuccess/ Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is it! Part 3 of my private mastermind on my frameworks for Secrets of Success! While there are a lot of "frameworks" out there, this is the culmination where we bring other strategies in to support your goals and give you the confidence to keep moving forward! If you do enjoy this episode, please follow the full journey by following my new Instagram profile for Secrets of Success at https://www.instagram.com/secretsofsuccess/

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]]> 1311 no (MS) Secrets of Success - Part 2: Your First Step https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-secrets-of-success-part-2-your-first-step This is part 2 of a training I did over a year ago as I've been working on my brand new book! In part 1 we just talked about which goals you should be setting and how you should frame those goals to help you build and keep your momentum; in this episode we go deep into the biggest reason we don't achieve our goals - "The Refusal of the Call". Hear the steps to building your confidence and strength so you can cross the threshold and take your first steps along your adventure! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 21 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Secrets of Success - Part 2: Your First Step full 2 30 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is part 2 of a training I did over a year ago as I've been working on my brand new book! In part 1 we just talked about which goals you should be setting and how you should frame those goals to help you build and keep your momentum; in this... This is part 2 of a training I did over a year ago as I've been working on my brand new book! In part 1 we just talked about which goals you should be setting and how you should frame those goals to help you build and keep your momentum; in this episode we go deep into the biggest reason we don't achieve our goals - "The Refusal of the Call". Hear the steps to building your confidence and strength so you can cross the threshold and take your first steps along your adventure! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is part 2 of a training I did over a year ago as I've been working on my brand new book! In part 1 we just talked about which goals you should be setting and how you should frame those goals to help you build and keep your momentum; in this episode we go deep into the biggest reason we don't achieve our goals - "The Refusal of the Call". Hear the steps to building your confidence and strength so you can cross the threshold and take your first steps along your adventure!

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]]> 812 no (MS) Secrets of Success - Part 1: Defining Success https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-secrets-of-success-part-1-defining-success Last year I did a VIP training specifically for our Ecomm VS Expert event with Allison Prince where I revealed the layout for my Secrets of Success. This is just part one, how you set your Hall of Fame and SuperBowl goals and define success so that you keep momentum, belief and faith as you move forward. Listen now! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Secrets of Success - Part 1: Defining Success full 2 29 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Last year I did a VIP training specifically for our Ecomm VS Expert event with Allison Prince where I revealed the layout for my Secrets of Success. This is just part one, how you set your Hall of Fame and SuperBowl goals and define success so that... Last year I did a VIP training specifically for our Ecomm VS Expert event with Allison Prince where I revealed the layout for my Secrets of Success. This is just part one, how you set your Hall of Fame and SuperBowl goals and define success so that you keep momentum, belief and faith as you move forward. Listen now! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Secrets of Success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Last year I did a VIP training specifically for our Ecomm VS Expert event with Allison Prince where I revealed the layout for my Secrets of Success. This is just part one, how you set your Hall of Fame and SuperBowl goals and define success so that you keep momentum, belief and faith as you move forward. Listen now!

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]]> 1318 no My Birthday Gift For You (First FHL Speaker Revealed!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-birthday-gift-for-you-first-fhl-speaker-revealed So, we are officially 175 days away from Funnel Hacking LIVE, and a few weeks ago on my birthday, everyone threw me a Birthday Party and we did a big event where people came and gave me gifts... But they weren't for me, they're actually for YOU! They're for anyone who gets a ticket to Funnel Hacking LIVE 2023 and you'll want to get them soon, because something big is happening this year and I don't want you to miss it! I've been wanting this to happen for 3 or 4 years now and it's finally time! So here's the announcement from my Birthday Bash! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 07 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0000 My Birthday Gift For You (First FHL Speaker Revealed!) full 2 28 Russell Brunson | YAP Media So, we are officially 175 days away from Funnel Hacking LIVE, and a few weeks ago on my birthday, everyone threw me a Birthday Party and we did a big event where people came and gave me gifts... But they weren't for me, they're actually for YOU!... So, we are officially 175 days away from Funnel Hacking LIVE, and a few weeks ago on my birthday, everyone threw me a Birthday Party and we did a big event where people came and gave me gifts... But they weren't for me, they're actually for YOU! They're for anyone who gets a ticket to Funnel Hacking LIVE 2023 and you'll want to get them soon, because something big is happening this year and I don't want you to miss it! I've been wanting this to happen for 3 or 4 years now and it's finally time! So here's the announcement from my Birthday Bash! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing FunnelHackingLIVE.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices So, we are officially 175 days away from Funnel Hacking LIVE, and a few weeks ago on my birthday, everyone threw me a Birthday Party and we did a big event where people came and gave me gifts... But they weren't for me, they're actually for YOU!

They're for anyone who gets a ticket to Funnel Hacking LIVE 2023 and you'll want to get them soon, because something big is happening this year and I don't want you to miss it! I've been wanting this to happen for 3 or 4 years now and it's finally time! So here's the announcement from my Birthday Bash!

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]]> 1681 no (MS) How To Break 9 Figures a Year Using this Linchpin - Part 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-how-to-break-9-figures-a-year-using-this-linchpin-part-2 Hey, welcome to part 2 of the Linchpin framework, where I'm revealing the one forgotten tweak that made ClickFunnels a 100M+/year business, that we're doing in ALL of our businesses right now. I'm actually in Mexico revealing each funnel and how we're doing each piece of this with our Coaching and Mastermind students (and it's so fun!!!). So, if you haven't listened to part 1, do that because it covers the first 2 steps you NEED in order to make this work in your business. With that said, let's jump in! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TwoCommaClubX.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 31 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) How To Break 9 Figures a Year Using this Linchpin - Part 2 full 2 27 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Hey, welcome to part 2 of the Linchpin framework, where I'm revealing the one forgotten tweak that made ClickFunnels a 100M+/year business, that we're doing in ALL of our businesses right now. I'm actually in Mexico revealing each funnel and how we're... Hey, welcome to part 2 of the Linchpin framework, where I'm revealing the one forgotten tweak that made ClickFunnels a 100M+/year business, that we're doing in ALL of our businesses right now. I'm actually in Mexico revealing each funnel and how we're doing each piece of this with our Coaching and Mastermind students (and it's so fun!!!). So, if you haven't listened to part 1, do that because it covers the first 2 steps you NEED in order to make this work in your business. With that said, let's jump in! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TwoCommaClubX.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hey, welcome to part 2 of the Linchpin framework, where I'm revealing the one forgotten tweak that made ClickFunnels a 100M+/year business, that we're doing in ALL of our businesses right now.

I'm actually in Mexico revealing each funnel and how we're doing each piece of this with our Coaching and Mastermind students (and it's so fun!!!).

So, if you haven't listened to part 1, do that because it covers the first 2 steps you NEED in order to make this work in your business. With that said, let's jump in!

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]]> 1394 no (MS) How To Break 9 Figures a Year Using this Linchpin - Part 1 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-how-to-break-9-figures-a-year-using-this-linchpin-part-1 Hey everyone, I'm in Mexico with my family preparing for the COOLEST event we do for our coaching students, our Mastermind in Paradise! I'm going to be sharing with them a strategy I revealed at Funnel Hacking LIVE this year and it's going to be amazing! But I wanted to share the goodness! So, for the first time, I'm going to reveal my framework that's made ClickFunnels a 100M business! It's called the "Linchpin"! We're going to split this into 2 episodes so make sure you're tuned in next week for part two. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TwoCommaClubX.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 24 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) How To Break 9 Figures a Year Using this Linchpin - Part 1 full 2 26 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Hey everyone, I'm in Mexico with my family preparing for the COOLEST event we do for our coaching students, our Mastermind in Paradise! I'm going to be sharing with them a strategy I revealed at Funnel Hacking LIVE this year and it's going to be... Hey everyone, I'm in Mexico with my family preparing for the COOLEST event we do for our coaching students, our Mastermind in Paradise! I'm going to be sharing with them a strategy I revealed at Funnel Hacking LIVE this year and it's going to be amazing! But I wanted to share the goodness! So, for the first time, I'm going to reveal my framework that's made ClickFunnels a 100M business! It's called the "Linchpin"! We're going to split this into 2 episodes so make sure you're tuned in next week for part two. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TwoCommaClubX.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hey everyone, I'm in Mexico with my family preparing for the COOLEST event we do for our coaching students, our Mastermind in Paradise! I'm going to be sharing with them a strategy I revealed at Funnel Hacking LIVE this year and it's going to be amazing!

But I wanted to share the goodness! So, for the first time, I'm going to reveal my framework that's made ClickFunnels a 100M business! It's called the "Linchpin"!

We're going to split this into 2 episodes so make sure you're tuned in next week for part two.

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]]> 1634 no (MS) Magnetic Marketing Challenge: Changing The Attractive Character https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-magnetic-marketing-challenge-changing-the-attractive-character The key to launching and growing any business is to have an attractive character in place. People don't connect with brands, they connect with people! After acquiring Dan Kennedy's Magnetic Marketing business, I knew that implementing a new Attractive Character was exactly what needed to happen for its continued success. In this episode, I'll share insights on how to create an Attractive Character that resonates with your target audience. I'll break down the essential elements of an Attractive Character, and how to integrate them into your marketing strategies. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Magnetic Marketing Challenge: Changing The Attractive Character full 2 25 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The key to launching and growing any business is to have an attractive character in place. People don't connect with brands, they connect with people! After acquiring Dan Kennedy's Magnetic Marketing business, I knew that implementing a new Attractive... The key to launching and growing any business is to have an attractive character in place. People don't connect with brands, they connect with people! After acquiring Dan Kennedy's Magnetic Marketing business, I knew that implementing a new Attractive Character was exactly what needed to happen for its continued success. In this episode, I'll share insights on how to create an Attractive Character that resonates with your target audience. I'll break down the essential elements of an Attractive Character, and how to integrate them into your marketing strategies. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The key to launching and growing any business is to have an attractive character in place. People don't connect with brands, they connect with people! After acquiring Dan Kennedy's Magnetic Marketing business, I knew that implementing a new Attractive Character was exactly what needed to happen for its continued success. In this episode, I'll share insights on how to create an Attractive Character that resonates with your target audience. I'll break down the essential elements of an Attractive Character, and how to integrate them into your marketing strategies.

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]]> 1005 no (MS) Brainology: The $50,000 Book Set That I Got For $500! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-brainology-the-50000-book-set-that-i-got-for-500 Understanding how the public domain works can help you create offers, make them truly unique, and increase the perceived value of anything you're selling. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (MS) Brainology: The $50,000 Book Set That I Got For $500! full 2 24 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Understanding how the public domain works can help you create offers, make them truly unique, and increase the perceived value of anything you're selling. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Understanding how the public domain works can help you create offers, make them truly unique, and increase the perceived value of anything you're selling. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Understanding how the public domain works can help you create offers, make them truly unique, and increase the perceived value of anything you're selling.

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]]> 1691 no (MS) The Power and Importance of Being Eccentric https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-the-power-and-importance-of-being-eccentric Let me give you permission to be a little bit crazy. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 03 Mar 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (MS) The Power and Importance of Being Eccentric full 2 23 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Let me give you permission to be a little bit crazy. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Let me give you permission to be a little bit crazy. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Let me give you permission to be a little bit crazy.

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]]> 673 no (Q&A) Balancing Act: Navigating Marriage / Kids and Entrepreneurship...! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-balancing-act-navigating-marriage-kids-and-entrepreneurship What are the secrets to having a successful marriage and family life, while still being a full time funnel hacker / entrepreneur!?! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 24 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) Balancing Act: Navigating Marriage / Kids and Entrepreneurship...! full 2 22 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What are the secrets to having a successful marriage and family life, while still being a full time funnel hacker / entrepreneur!?! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at What are the secrets to having a successful marriage and family life, while still being a full time funnel hacker / entrepreneur!?! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What are the secrets to having a successful marriage and family life, while still being a full time funnel hacker / entrepreneur!?!

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]]> 1238 no (Q&A) Leverage Your SKILLS... To Land Your Dream Partnerships https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-leverage-your-skills-to-land-your-dream-partnerships How can you take your current skill set and use it to open doors for your dream job, partnerships, and more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 17 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) Leverage Your SKILLS... To Land Your Dream Partnerships full 2 21 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How can you take your current skill set and use it to open doors for your dream job, partnerships, and more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at How can you take your current skill set and use it to open doors for your dream job, partnerships, and more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How can you take your current skill set and use it to open doors for your dream job, partnerships, and more!

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]]> 617 no (Q&A) Understanding and Implementing the "Dream 100" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-understanding-and-implementing-the-dream-100 Let me show you EXACTLY how I implement the Dream 100 so I can get an unlimited stream of targeted traffic. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) Understanding and Implementing the "Dream 100" full 2 20 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Let me show you EXACTLY how I implement the Dream 100 so I can get an unlimited stream of targeted traffic. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Let me show you EXACTLY how I implement the Dream 100 so I can get an unlimited stream of targeted traffic. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Let me show you EXACTLY how I implement the Dream 100 so I can get an unlimited stream of targeted traffic.

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]]> 992 no (VRE) ClickFunnels Acquired GERU.com - Find Out WHY... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/vre-why-clickfunnels-acquired-geru-and-how-it-can-help-you On today's episode you'll learn about the Geru.com acquisition, why we bought it, what the "Rembrandt in the Attic" is for this funnel... and more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Geru.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 03 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (VRE) ClickFunnels Acquired GERU.com - Find Out WHY... full 2 19 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today's episode you'll learn about the Geru.com acquisition, why we bought it, what the "Rembrandt in the Attic" is for this funnel... and more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at On today's episode you'll learn about the Geru.com acquisition, why we bought it, what the "Rembrandt in the Attic" is for this funnel... and more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Geru.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode you'll learn about the Geru.com acquisition, why we bought it, what the "Rembrandt in the Attic" is for this funnel... and more!

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]]> 1146 no (MS) Behind the Scenes of CF 2.0 and "Your First Funnel" Launch... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-behind-the-scenes-of-cf-20-and-your-first-funnel-launch In this episode I break down everything that happened during the 2.0 launch..!!! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 27 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (MS) Behind the Scenes of CF 2.0 and "Your First Funnel" Launch... full 2 18 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode I break down everything that happened during the 2.0 launch..!!! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at In this episode I break down everything that happened during the 2.0 launch..!!! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode I break down everything that happened during the 2.0 launch..!!!

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]]> 1833 no (VRE) Behind the Scenes of LadyBoss… https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/vre-behind-the-scenes-of-ladyboss Why I became a LadyBoss and how you can too! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing MarketingSecrets.com/ladyboss Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 20 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000 (VRE) Behind the Scenes of LadyBoss… full 2 17 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Why I became a LadyBoss and how you can too! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Why I became a LadyBoss and how you can too! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing MarketingSecrets.com/ladyboss Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Why I became a LadyBoss and how you can too!

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]]> 1678 no What Do The Books On Your Bookshelf Say About You?... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-do-the-books-on-your-bookshelf-say-about-you If you want to know what somebody values the most, take a look at their bookshelf. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 13 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000 What Do The Books On Your Bookshelf Say About You?... full 2 16 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you want to know what somebody values the most, take a look at their bookshelf. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at If you want to know what somebody values the most, take a look at their bookshelf. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you want to know what somebody values the most, take a look at their bookshelf.

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]]> 522 no My Tribute to Dave Woodward https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-tribute-to-dave-woodward Listen to my thoughts on the recent passing of my best friend and ClickFunnels' CEO, Dave Woodward. I wanted to do this podcast to remember him and let you guys know all the things that he did to affect your lives and change the world! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 06 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000 My Tribute to Dave Woodward full 2 15 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen to my thoughts on the recent passing of my best friend and ClickFunnels' CEO, Dave Woodward. I wanted to do this podcast to remember him and let you guys know all the things that he did to affect your lives and change the world! Listen to my thoughts on the recent passing of my best friend and ClickFunnels' CEO, Dave Woodward. I wanted to do this podcast to remember him and let you guys know all the things that he did to affect your lives and change the world! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen to my thoughts on the recent passing of my best friend and ClickFunnels' CEO, Dave Woodward. I wanted to do this podcast to remember him and let you guys know all the things that he did to affect your lives and change the world!

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]]> 4100 no (Q&A) Questions About Acquiring Dan Kennedy's Company... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-questions-about-acquiring-dan-kennedys-company Steve Miles asked about my acquisition of Dan Kennedy's company, how do I evaluate these companies?... and more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) Questions About Acquiring Dan Kennedy's Company... full 2 14 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Steve Miles asked about my acquisition of Dan Kennedy's company, how do I evaluate these companies?... and more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Steve Miles asked about my acquisition of Dan Kennedy's company, how do I evaluate these companies?... and more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Steve Miles asked about my acquisition of Dan Kennedy's company, how do I evaluate these companies?... and more!

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]]> 582 no (Q&A) After Your Funnel Is Built... How To Get It To The Next Level? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-after-your-funnel-is-built-how-to-get-it-to-the-next-level Den Lopez asked how to split test your funnel so it can grow... this episode is my response! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 23 Dec 2022 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) After Your Funnel Is Built... How To Get It To The Next Level? full 2 13 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Den Lopez asked how to split test your funnel so it can grow... this episode is my response! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Den Lopez asked how to split test your funnel so it can grow... this episode is my response! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Den Lopez asked how to split test your funnel so it can grow... this episode is my response!

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]]> 597 no (Q&A) What's Your Biggest Advice For A Senior In High School? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-whats-your-biggest-advice-for-a-senior-in-high-school Find out the best path for success if you're just getting started (or if you're stuck). Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) What's Your Biggest Advice For A Senior In High School? full 2 12 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Find out the best path for success if you're just getting started (or if you're stuck). Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Find out the best path for success if you're just getting started (or if you're stuck). Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Find out the best path for success if you're just getting started (or if you're stuck).

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]]> 577 no (Q&A) Perfect Challenge Secrets https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-perfect-challenge-secrets How to structure your 5 day challenges so people will buy what you're selling when you make the offer! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 09 Dec 2022 09:00:00 -0000 (Q&A) Perfect Challenge Secrets full 2 11 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to structure your 5 day challenges so people will buy what you're selling when you make the offer! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at How to structure your 5 day challenges so people will buy what you're selling when you make the offer! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to structure your 5 day challenges so people will buy what you're selling when you make the offer!

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]]> 720 no (Book) Magic Ladder of Success - Napoleon Hill https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/book-magic-ladder-of-success-napoleon-hill This episode I share the gold I found inside of this booklet I paid $10k for on eBay! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 02 Dec 2022 09:00:00 -0000 (Book) Magic Ladder of Success - Napoleon Hill full 2 10 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This episode I share the gold I found inside of this booklet I paid $10k for on eBay! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at This episode I share the gold I found inside of this booklet I paid $10k for on eBay! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode I share the gold I found inside of this booklet I paid $10k for on eBay!

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]]> 2057 no (MS) Part 2: From Momentum To Domination https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-part-2-from-momentum-to-domination WARNING: This is an advanced strategy to geometrically grow your business in ways that most people aren't even thinking about. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 25 Nov 2022 09:00:00 -0000 (MS) Part 2: From Momentum To Domination full 2 9 Russell Brunson | YAP Media WARNING: This is an advanced strategy to geometrically grow your business in ways that most people aren't even thinking about. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at WARNING: This is an advanced strategy to geometrically grow your business in ways that most people aren't even thinking about. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices WARNING: This is an advanced strategy to geometrically grow your business in ways that most people aren't even thinking about.

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]]> 768 no (MS) Part 1: The Inertia to Actually Get Into Momentum... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-the-inertia-to-actually-get-into-momentum Behind the scenes glimpse of the nine month process it took us to get ClickFunnels 2.0 in orbit. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 18 Nov 2022 09:00:00 -0000 (MS) Part 1: The Inertia to Actually Get Into Momentum... full 8 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes glimpse of the nine month process it took us to get ClickFunnels 2.0 in orbit. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Behind the scenes glimpse of the nine month process it took us to get ClickFunnels 2.0 in orbit. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes glimpse of the nine month process it took us to get ClickFunnels 2.0 in orbit.

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]]> 1083 no (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 4" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/fhl-recap-of-funnel-hacking-live-2022-day-4 Here is the exciting conclusion of the 2022 FHL recap series. Listen is as Russell goings through the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2022! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 11 Nov 2022 09:00:00 -0000 (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 4" bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is the exciting conclusion of the 2022 FHL recap series. Listen is as Russell goings through the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2022! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Here is the exciting conclusion of the 2022 FHL recap series. Listen is as Russell goings through the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2022! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is the exciting conclusion of the 2022 FHL recap series. Listen is as Russell goings through the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2022!

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]]> 905 no (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 3" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/fhl-recap-of-funnel-hacking-live-2022-day-3 Today Russell is going through all the amazing speakers and highlights from Funnel Hacking Live "Day 3"! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 04 Nov 2022 08:00:00 -0000 (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 3" bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today Russell is going through all the amazing speakers and highlights from Funnel Hacking Live "Day 3"! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Today Russell is going through all the amazing speakers and highlights from Funnel Hacking Live "Day 3"! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today Russell is going through all the amazing speakers and highlights from Funnel Hacking Live "Day 3"!

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]]> 980 no (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 2" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/fhl-recap-of-funnel-hacking-live-2022-day-2 Today Russell is going through all the amazing speakers and highlights from Funnel Hacking Live "Day 2"! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 28 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000 (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 2" bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today Russell is going through all the amazing speakers and highlights from Funnel Hacking Live "Day 2"! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Today Russell is going through all the amazing speakers and highlights from Funnel Hacking Live "Day 2"! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today Russell is going through all the amazing speakers and highlights from Funnel Hacking Live "Day 2"!

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]]> 986 no (Interview) Controversial Marketing with Nicole Arbour https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/interview-controversial-marketing-with-nicole-arbour How can you use controversy in your marketing to help grow your following... Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000 (Interview) Controversial Marketing with Nicole Arbour full 7 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How can you use controversy in your marketing to help grow your following... Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at How can you use controversy in your marketing to help grow your following... Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How can you use controversy in your marketing to help grow your following...

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]]> 3259 no (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 1" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/fhl-recap-of-funnel-hacking-live-2022-day-1 Here is Russell's recap of Funnel Hacking Live "Day 1"! This day is JAM PACKED with so many speakers and presentations; and tons of life changing content. Listen in as Russell takes you behind the scenes of everything that went on that day!   Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000 (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 1" bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is Russell's recap of Funnel Hacking Live "Day 1"! This day is JAM PACKED with so many speakers and presentations; and tons of life changing content. Listen in as Russell takes you behind the scenes of everything that went on that... Here is Russell's recap of Funnel Hacking Live "Day 1"! This day is JAM PACKED with so many speakers and presentations; and tons of life changing content. Listen in as Russell takes you behind the scenes of everything that went on that day!   Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is Russell's recap of Funnel Hacking Live "Day 1"! This day is JAM PACKED with so many speakers and presentations; and tons of life changing content. Listen in as Russell takes you behind the scenes of everything that went on that day!  

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]]> 1195 no (MS) Secret to Buying Companies: "The Rembrandt in the Attic" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ms-secret-to-buying-companies-the-rembrandt-in-the-attic In the last 24 months, I have acquired more businesses than I have built in the last 24 years. This is all thanks to a simple concept called a "Rembrandt in the Attic". In this episode of Marking Secrets, I explain what A Rembrandt in the attic is and why it is the number 1 secret to look for before buying any business. Even if you do not want to buy a business, this episode will teach you how to see the hypothetical Rembrandt in your attic, so you can maximize the potential of your business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 07 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000 (MS) Secret to Buying Companies: "The Rembrandt in the Attic" full 6 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In the last 24 months, I have acquired more businesses than I have built in the last 24 years. This is all thanks to a simple concept called a "Rembrandt in the Attic". In this episode of Marking Secrets, I explain what A Rembrandt in the attic is and... In the last 24 months, I have acquired more businesses than I have built in the last 24 years. This is all thanks to a simple concept called a "Rembrandt in the Attic". In this episode of Marking Secrets, I explain what A Rembrandt in the attic is and why it is the number 1 secret to look for before buying any business. Even if you do not want to buy a business, this episode will teach you how to see the hypothetical Rembrandt in your attic, so you can maximize the potential of your business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In the last 24 months, I have acquired more businesses than I have built in the last 24 years. This is all thanks to a simple concept called a "Rembrandt in the Attic". In this episode of Marking Secrets, I explain what A Rembrandt in the attic is and why it is the number 1 secret to look for before buying any business. Even if you do not want to buy a business, this episode will teach you how to see the hypothetical Rembrandt in your attic, so you can maximize the potential of your business.

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]]> 1532 no (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 0" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/fhl-recap-of-funnel-hacking-live-2022-day-0 "Day 0" is basically a pre-game day before the full Funnel Hacking Live experience. Here is a recap of all the highlights from "Day 0". Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 30 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000 (FHL) Recap of Funnel Hacking Live 2022 "Day 0" bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media "Day 0" is basically a pre-game day before the full Funnel Hacking Live experience. Here is a recap of all the highlights from "Day 0". Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at "Day 0" is basically a pre-game day before the full Funnel Hacking Live experience. Here is a recap of all the highlights from "Day 0". Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices "Day 0" is basically a pre-game day before the full Funnel Hacking Live experience. Here is a recap of all the highlights from "Day 0".

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]]> 1127 no (FHL) The Drifter VS The Driven https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/fhl-the-drifter-vs-the-driven With everyone being busy at Funnel Hacking Live this week, we wanted to share Russell's opening keynote presentation from this year's event! Enjoy! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 23 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000 (FHL) The Drifter VS The Driven bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media With everyone being busy at Funnel Hacking Live this week, we wanted to share Russell's opening keynote presentation from this year's event! Enjoy! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at With everyone being busy at Funnel Hacking Live this week, we wanted to share Russell's opening keynote presentation from this year's event! Enjoy! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices With everyone being busy at Funnel Hacking Live this week, we wanted to share Russell's opening keynote presentation from this year's event! Enjoy!

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]]> 6113 no (VRE) Toonly - Voomly - Episode #1 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/vre-toonly-voomly-episode-1 Listen in behind the scenes of all the ups and downs of another one of our recent "virtual real estate" acquisitions. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 16 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000 (VRE) Toonly - Voomly - Episode #1 full 2 5 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen in behind the scenes of all the ups and downs of another one of our recent "virtual real estate" acquisitions. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Listen in behind the scenes of all the ups and downs of another one of our recent "virtual real estate" acquisitions. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen in behind the scenes of all the ups and downs of another one of our recent "virtual real estate" acquisitions.

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]]> 2011 no S2E4 - (VRE) Magnetic Marketing / Dan Kennedy - Episode #1 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/s2e4-vre-magnetic-marketing-dan-kennedy-episode-1 Here is the story behind why I bought Dan Kennedy's company, and what's happening with the funnels now! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 09 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000 S2E4 - (VRE) Magnetic Marketing / Dan Kennedy - Episode #1 full 2 4 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is the story behind why I bought Dan Kennedy's company, and what's happening with the funnels now! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Here is the story behind why I bought Dan Kennedy's company, and what's happening with the funnels now! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is the story behind why I bought Dan Kennedy's company, and what's happening with the funnels now!

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]]> 1912 no S2E3 - (VRE) The Zuma Juice Funnel - Episode #1 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/s2e3-vre-the-zuma-juice-funnel-episode-1 Here is the story behind ZumaJuice.com updates on the funnel! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 02 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000 S2E3 - (VRE) The Zuma Juice Funnel - Episode #1 full 2 3 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is the story behind updates on the funnel! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Here is the story behind ZumaJuice.com updates on the funnel! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is the story behind ZumaJuice.com updates on the funnel!

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]]> 2049 no S2E2 - Virtual Real Estate Secrets https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/s2e2-virtual-real-estate-secrets How To Build A Virtual Real Estate Empire By Fixing, Flipping, And Investing In Small Cash Flow Funnels… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 26 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000 S2E2 - Virtual Real Estate Secrets full 2 2 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How To Build A Virtual Real Estate Empire By Fixing, Flipping, And Investing In Small Cash Flow Funnels… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at How To Build A Virtual Real Estate Empire By Fixing, Flipping, And Investing In Small Cash Flow Funnels… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How To Build A Virtual Real Estate Empire By Fixing, Flipping, And Investing In Small Cash Flow Funnels…

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]]> 3395 no S2E1 - The DEATH and REBIRTH of "Marketing Secrets" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/s2e1-the-death-and-rebirth-of-marketing-secrets It's time to start a new chapter. We are killing the old version of this podcast, and re-launching a new, upgraded season... Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 19 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000 S2E1 - The DEATH and REBIRTH of "Marketing Secrets" full 2 1 Russell Brunson | YAP Media It's time to start a new chapter. We are killing the old version of this podcast, and re-launching a new, upgraded season... Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at It's time to start a new chapter. We are killing the old version of this podcast, and re-launching a new, upgraded season... Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices It's time to start a new chapter. We are killing the old version of this podcast, and re-launching a new, upgraded season...

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]]> 1350 no Bootstrapping from $0 to $100,000,000+ Part 2 (Ian Stanley Interview) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/bootstrapping-from-0-to-100000000-part-2-ian-stanley-interview Here is the exciting conclusion from the Russell Brunson and Ian Stanley interview. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Bootstrapping from $0 to $100,000,000+ Part 2 (Ian Stanley Interview) full 542 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is the exciting conclusion from the Russell Brunson and Ian Stanley interview. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Here is the exciting conclusion from the Russell Brunson and Ian Stanley interview. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is the exciting conclusion from the Russell Brunson and Ian Stanley interview.

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]]> 2258 no Bootstrapping from $0 to $100,000,000+ Part 1 (Ian Stanley Interview) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/bootstrapping-from-0-to-100000000-part-1-ian-stanley-interview Listen in on this rare interview with Russell Brunson and Ian Stanley. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 05 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Bootstrapping from $0 to $100,000,000+ Part 1 (Ian Stanley Interview) full 541 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen in on this rare interview with Russell Brunson and Ian Stanley. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Listen in on this rare interview with Russell Brunson and Ian Stanley. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen in on this rare interview with Russell Brunson and Ian Stanley.

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]]> 2893 no THRIVE (Don't Just Survive) with Dean Graziosi!!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/thrive-dont-just-survive-with-dean-graziosi I flew to Phoenix to hang out with Dean Graziosi and get the process for you to THRIVE (not survive) during this crazy time. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TakeTheChallenge.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000 THRIVE (Don't Just Survive) with Dean Graziosi!!! full 540 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I flew to Phoenix to hang out with Dean Graziosi and get the process for you to THRIVE (not survive) during this crazy time. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at I flew to Phoenix to hang out with Dean Graziosi and get the process for you to THRIVE (not survive) during this crazy time. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TakeTheChallenge.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I flew to Phoenix to hang out with Dean Graziosi and get the process for you to THRIVE (not survive) during this crazy time.

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]]> 3170 no Private Interview With Tony Robbins (Listen In!!!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/private-interview-with-tony-robbins-listen-in I'm working on my new book, and had some questions for Tony Robbins... check it out as he answers LIVE!!! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TakeTheChallenge.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Private Interview With Tony Robbins (Listen In!!!) full 539 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I'm working on my new book, and had some questions for Tony Robbins... check it out as he answers LIVE!!! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at I'm working on my new book, and had some questions for Tony Robbins... check it out as he answers LIVE!!! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TakeTheChallenge.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I'm working on my new book, and had some questions for Tony Robbins... check it out as he answers LIVE!!!

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]]> 2366 no My First Mastermind... (and the Funnel I Use to Sell Mine!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-first-mastermind-and-the-funnel-i-use-to-sell-mine In today's episode you'll learn about the first mastermind I ever attended, and also the funnel I use to sell people into mine! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TakeTheChallenge.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000 My First Mastermind... (and the Funnel I Use to Sell Mine!) full 538 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In today's episode you'll learn about the first mastermind I ever attended, and also the funnel I use to sell people into mine! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at In today's episode you'll learn about the first mastermind I ever attended, and also the funnel I use to sell people into mine! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing TakeTheChallenge.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In today's episode you'll learn about the first mastermind I ever attended, and also the funnel I use to sell people into mine!

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]]> 1547 no Russell's Mastermind.com Presentation https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/russells-mastermindcom-presentation This episode Russell shares a presentation he recorded at Dean Graziosi's office, with over 5000,000 people listening in, about how to start an information business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Russell's Mastermind.com Presentation full 537 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This episode Russell shares a presentation he recorded at Dean Graziosi's office, with over 5000,000 people listening in, about how to start an information business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at This episode Russell shares a presentation he recorded at Dean Graziosi's office, with over 5000,000 people listening in, about how to start an information business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode Russell shares a presentation he recorded at Dean Graziosi's office, with over 5000,000 people listening in, about how to start an information business.

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]]> 1718 no How Visionaries Can Better Work With Their Team https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-visionaries-can-better-work-with-their-team Here's something I'm trying this week, to help get my vision better understood by my team so we can continue to take over the world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000 How Visionaries Can Better Work With Their Team full 536 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here's something I'm trying this week, to help get my vision better understood by my team so we can continue to take over the world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Here's something I'm trying this week, to help get my vision better understood by my team so we can continue to take over the world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here's something I'm trying this week, to help get my vision better understood by my team so we can continue to take over the world.

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]]> 593 no The Secret of Diving In Head First https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-of-diving-in-head-first An analogy I want to share with you to help you to be more successful in anything that you decide to do. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000 The Secret of Diving In Head First full 535 Russell Brunson | YAP Media An analogy I want to share with you to help you to be more successful in anything that you decide to do. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at An analogy I want to share with you to help you to be more successful in anything that you decide to do. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices An analogy I want to share with you to help you to be more successful in anything that you decide to do.

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]]> 664 no What's the ROI of Your Vacation? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/whats-the-roi-of-your-vacation Some cool thoughts from my vacation, as well as my process on what to read, why to read, and how to read, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. I hope you enjoy! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000 What's the ROI of Your Vacation? full 534 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Some cool thoughts from my vacation, as well as my process on what to read, why to read, and how to read, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. I hope you enjoy! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Some cool thoughts from my vacation, as well as my process on what to read, why to read, and how to read, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. I hope you enjoy! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Some cool thoughts from my vacation, as well as my process on what to read, why to read, and how to read, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. I hope you enjoy!

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]]> 1073 no How To Acquire Awesome Companies For FREE! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-acquire-awesome-companies-for-free Over the past year, we've bought more than half a dozen businesses. I want to show you what we're doing, and why we're doing it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000 How To Acquire Awesome Companies For FREE! full 533 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Over the past year, we've bought more than half a dozen businesses. I want to show you what we're doing, and why we're doing it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Over the past year, we've bought more than half a dozen businesses. I want to show you what we're doing, and why we're doing it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Over the past year, we've bought more than half a dozen businesses. I want to show you what we're doing, and why we're doing it.

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]]> 750 no The Funnel Wrapper... My Newest Invention https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-funnel-wrapper-my-newest-invention I'm not sure if this is crazy or brilliant, but I'm really excited about this new evolution of funnel building. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000 The Funnel Wrapper... My Newest Invention full 532 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I'm not sure if this is crazy or brilliant, but I'm really excited about this new evolution of funnel building. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at I'm not sure if this is crazy or brilliant, but I'm really excited about this new evolution of funnel building. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I'm not sure if this is crazy or brilliant, but I'm really excited about this new evolution of funnel building.

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]]> 756 no The Secret Principle of Over-Delivering https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-principle-of-over-delivering How to use this principle to make more money, have more success, have a better relationship with your wife and kids, and a whole bunch more. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000 The Secret Principle of Over-Delivering full 531 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to use this principle to make more money, have more success, have a better relationship with your wife and kids, and a whole bunch more. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at How to use this principle to make more money, have more success, have a better relationship with your wife and kids, and a whole bunch more. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to use this principle to make more money, have more success, have a better relationship with your wife and kids, and a whole bunch more.

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]]> 550 no The Evolution of Your Framework... By Napoleon Hill https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-evolution-of-your-framework-by-napoleon-hill Another really cool insight that came to Russell while he's "meditating" in the Napoleon Hill room. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000 The Evolution of Your Framework... By Napoleon Hill full 530 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Another really cool insight that came to Russell while he's "meditating" in the Napoleon Hill room. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Another really cool insight that came to Russell while he's "meditating" in the Napoleon Hill room. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Another really cool insight that came to Russell while he's "meditating" in the Napoleon Hill room.

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]]> 1213 no The #1 Company Culture Mistake I Made, And How To Quickly Fix It https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-1-company-culture-mistake-i-made-and-how-to-quickly-fix-it This conversation comes from an epiphany I had while talking to Dean Graziosi while on a private plane to Florida, and it’s a simple insight that most entrepreneurs are probably missing. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000 The #1 Company Culture Mistake I Made, And How To Quickly Fix It full 529 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This conversation comes from an epiphany I had while talking to Dean Graziosi while on a private plane to Florida, and it’s a simple insight that most entrepreneurs are probably missing. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my... This conversation comes from an epiphany I had while talking to Dean Graziosi while on a private plane to Florida, and it’s a simple insight that most entrepreneurs are probably missing. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This conversation comes from an epiphany I had while talking to Dean Graziosi while on a private plane to Florida, and it’s a simple insight that most entrepreneurs are probably missing.

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]]> 596 no The Drifter Vs The Driven and Live Q&A with Russell https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-drifter-vs-the-driven-and-live-qa-with-russell Went live on Instagram today and I want to share some of the cool conversations we had. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000 The Drifter Vs The Driven and Live Q&A with Russell full 528 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Went live on Instagram today and I want to share some of the cool conversations we had. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Went live on Instagram today and I want to share some of the cool conversations we had. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Went live on Instagram today and I want to share some of the cool conversations we had.

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]]> 1489 no Funnel Builder Stories https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-builder-stories Listen to these stories of real life, full time funnel builders. Check out funnelbuilder.com/go to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Funnel Builder Stories full 527 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen to these stories of real life, full time funnel builders. Check out to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Listen to these stories of real life, full time funnel builders. Check out funnelbuilder.com/go to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen to these stories of real life, full time funnel builders. Check out funnelbuilder.com/go to learn more!

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]]> 6662 no Funnel Builder Certification Program https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-builder-certification-program Discover the 'perfect career' as a "work-from-home" funnel builder. Check out funnelbuilder.com/go to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Funnel Builder Certification Program full 526 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Discover the 'perfect career' as a "work-from-home" funnel builder. Check out to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Discover the 'perfect career' as a "work-from-home" funnel builder. Check out funnelbuilder.com/go to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Discover the 'perfect career' as a "work-from-home" funnel builder. Check out funnelbuilder.com/go to learn more!

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]]> 6861 no The Aftermath of Perfect Webinar 2.0... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-aftermath-of-perfect-webinar-20 What to know how the last webinar did? Here are some details, stats, and a whole bunch of other cool lessons I learned along the way. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000 The Aftermath of Perfect Webinar 2.0... full 525 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What to know how the last webinar did? Here are some details, stats, and a whole bunch of other cool lessons I learned along the way. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at What to know how the last webinar did? Here are some details, stats, and a whole bunch of other cool lessons I learned along the way. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What to know how the last webinar did? Here are some details, stats, and a whole bunch of other cool lessons I learned along the way.

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]]> 860 no Is It Taking More Energy Than It's Giving...? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/is-it-taking-more-energy-than-its-giving A couple questions to help you to have more success and more happiness as you are pursuing your passions. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Is It Taking More Energy Than It's Giving...? full 524 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A couple questions to help you to have more success and more happiness as you are pursuing your passions. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at A couple questions to help you to have more success and more happiness as you are pursuing your passions. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A couple questions to help you to have more success and more happiness as you are pursuing your passions.

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]]> 704 no Jay Abraham Q&A Interview - Part 4 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/jay-abraham-qa-interview-part-4-of-4 On today's episode, you get to hear the final part of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 01 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Jay Abraham Q&A Interview - Part 4 of 4 full 523 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today's episode, you get to hear the final part of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at On today's episode, you get to hear the final part of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode, you get to hear the final part of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham.

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]]> 1449 no Jay Abraham Q&A Interview - Part 3 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/jay-abraham-qa-interview-part-3-of-4 On today's episode, you get to hear part 3 of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Jay Abraham Q&A Interview - Part 3 of 4 full 522 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today's episode, you get to hear part 3 of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at On today's episode, you get to hear part 3 of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode, you get to hear part 3 of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham.

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]]> 1506 no Jay Abraham Q&A Interview - Part 2 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/jay-abraham-qa-interview-part-2-of-4 On today's episode, you get to hear part 2 of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Jay Abraham Q&A Interview - Part 2 of 4 full 521 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today's episode, you get to hear part 2 of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at On today's episode, you get to hear part 2 of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode, you get to hear part 2 of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham.

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]]> 1565 no Jay Abraham Q&A Interview - Part 1 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/jay-abraham-qa-interview-part-1-of-4 On today's episode, you get to hear the first part of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Jay Abraham Q&A Interview - Part 1 of 4 full 520 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today's episode, you get to hear the first part of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at On today's episode, you get to hear the first part of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode, you get to hear the first part of a recent interview Russell did with Jay Abraham.

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]]> 1650 no This Isn't The Highlight Reel... It's The Cutting Room Floor https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/this-isnt-the-highlight-reel-its-the-cutting-room-floor Here's a vulnerable episode from Russell, talking about the things that he's currently struggling with in his life. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 18 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000 This Isn't The Highlight Reel... It's The Cutting Room Floor full 519 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here's a vulnerable episode from Russell, talking about the things that he's currently struggling with in his life. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at Here's a vulnerable episode from Russell, talking about the things that he's currently struggling with in his life. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here's a vulnerable episode from Russell, talking about the things that he's currently struggling with in his life.

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]]> 1324 no What's The New Opportunity Inside Of Your Current Opportunity? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/whats-the-new-opportunity-inside-of-your-current-opportunity A new way to look at how to structure a special type of offer inside your funnel. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000 What's The New Opportunity Inside Of Your Current Opportunity? full 518 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A new way to look at how to structure a special type of offer inside your funnel. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at A new way to look at how to structure a special type of offer inside your funnel. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A new way to look at how to structure a special type of offer inside your funnel.

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]]> 544 no For Me It's Wrestling... What Is It For You? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/for-me-its-wrestling-what-is-it-for-you My thoughts after wrestling at this weekend's tournament, and how I hope this will unlock something cool for you. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000 For Me It's Wrestling... What Is It For You? full 517 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My thoughts after wrestling at this weekend's tournament, and how I hope this will unlock something cool for you. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at My thoughts after wrestling at this weekend's tournament, and how I hope this will unlock something cool for you. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My thoughts after wrestling at this weekend's tournament, and how I hope this will unlock something cool for you.

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]]> 1001 no Launch Your Funnel (Traffic) - FDLC: Day 5 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/launch-your-funnel-traffic-fdlc-day-5-of-5 This is day 5 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Coming Soon... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Launch Your Funnel (Traffic) - FDLC: Day 5 of 5 full 516 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is day 5 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to . Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- Coming Soon... This is day 5 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Coming Soon... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is day 5 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com.

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]]> 3393 no Your Follow-Up Funnels (Emails) - FDLC: Day 4 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/your-follow-up-funnels-emails-fdlc-day-4-of-5 This is day 4 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Coming Soon... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Your Follow-Up Funnels (Emails) - FDLC: Day 4 of 5 full 515 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is day 4 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to . Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- Coming Soon... This is day 4 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Coming Soon... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is day 4 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com.

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]]> 3708 no Creating Your Lead Funnel (ClickFunnels) - FDLC: Day 3 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/creating-your-lead-funnel-clickfunnels-fdlc-day-3-of-5 This is day 3 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, we're going day into number three of the Five Day Lead Challenge. Hopefully, you've enjoyed the last two episodes. If you haven't listened to those yet, make sure you get them all in order, because they all build upon each other. But this is day number three. And today we're talked about creating your lead funnel, right? Day number one we talked about the strategy of generating leads online day. Number two, we built out your lead magnet and now on number three, we're going to start building your lead funnel. This is the most basic, most simple and one of the most powerful types of funnels you can create. So we'll be talking about that during today's episode. Once again, this is from a video event that we did, and so if you want to see the videos and see the screenshots and get the one pager homework and all that stuff, you can get those for free at fivedayleadchallenge.com. So that said, I hope you enjoy this episode on creating your lead funnel. Welcome to day number three of the five day lead challenge. Have you guys been enjoying this process so far? I'm actually really curious. This is the first time we've ever done training like this where we go live every single day. A whiteboard out with strategy. We give you the tactics. We give you the one pager, and you go do the homework assignment. I'm curious and I'd love to know the comments. I'll read these afterwards, but let me know in the comments if you guys are enjoying this process. I think it's a fun, cool, new way to train. So if you do like it let me know. If you're getting a lot of value out also I'd love to be able to see it. Let me know in the comments down below. One really cool thing that I'm excited about that I'm kind of let guys know and then we'll jump into the training. As we were planing this I was having so much fun with it. A lot of you guys know we do a training called One Funnel Away. How many guys I've ever heard of the One Funnel Away challenge or been part of the One Funnel Away challenge? Okay, so we launched the One Funnel Away challenge, man, about two years ago now. And in the last two years over 70,000 people have gone through which is crazy. So thank you. I hope you had a chance to go through and you enjoyed it. But it's been two years and I love teaching. I get excited and like, I don't know about you. Every time I talk about something, I get off stage. I'm like, "Oh, I want to do it again. I can change this. I can tweak this. I can make it better." And I really decided after OFS like I want to do it again. And I'm really enjoying this process and so I talked to my team. I was like, "What if we did OFA again, but this time do it live?" And do it live over 30 days where we do the same process. So I come up here, I talked to you guys for 30 minutes or so, give you a one-pager, and give you a homework assignment and go every single day over 30 days and the end of it we do the next year, right? This whole five day lead challenge is all about getting your first lead funnel, getting leads coming in. The One Funnel Away challenge is about creating it for sales funnel. We're actually selling products and making money. So my question to you is if we were to do that, if we were to go and do One Funnel Away live starting Monday, how many has to be interested in being part of that? If so write in the comments down below 'cause I'm pretty sure that's what we're planning on doing 'cause I am really enjoying the process. I don't want it to stop. I want to do this every day for the next 30 days. So, anyway, we'll talk more about that towards the end of this week. But if you guys are interested to extending this experience and going from here, here is me generating leads like know how to start selling products and building out for our sales funnels? That's what the new One Funnel Away challenge is gonna be. It's gonna be simplified from the old one. Every single day, we'll have a one pager or a homework assignment and it will be really fun and it'll be exciting. So that's happening later on this week. So I want to let you guys know about. Starting next week, Monday, we're gonna start the new One Funnel Away challenge. So, anyway, that's kind of what's happening. All right, with that said, I'm gonna jump into today. We've got so many fun things. How many, by the way... How many guys went and did the assignment yesterday and actually got your one pager account set up and created your very first one pager, your very first lead magnet, okay? We were watching the comments and the things that's been a little bit of chaos on our side. Obviously, one pager is a brand new product. Yes, you're the first people ever to use it. And I've already seen so many people creating one pagers, people finding a couple bugs which has been nice. Let us know. We're trying to get all the things fixed up. There's a lot of cool new features and this is coming out a bit. As of right now, it's pretty cool, right? And like all the one-pagers that I'm giving you guys, I built those myself. That was me and I'm not technical. I was able to build those, it took me a little while and I had so much fun with it. And so, like I said, literally today I'm gonna start working on the One Funnel Away one pagers 'cause I got all the one pagers for this we had done yesterday, actually. So, anyway, I hopefully enjoyed one pager. If not, if you haven't do this homework yet, make sure you go back to day number two, which is yesterday, watch the training, get the one pager and then go and create your one pager. That's how you're taking your framework we talked about and turn it into something tangible that you can trade somebody in exchange for their email address. Okay, and one pager is the coolest way I've ever found to do that. So that's exciting. Okay, so before I dive into today. This is me like... One my favorite things about my role in this whole game is I get to do cool marketing stuff and then I get to tell you guys what I'm doing because I feel like I'm the wizard of all of these. Like I do something amazing and I'm like, "Hey, come down we got it. Let me show you what we just did. Okay, so yesterday we talked a lot about frameworks. Now I want to... Again, I'm gonna open the curtain and show you guys kinda what's happening, right? When we plan out the five day lead challenge what did I do? I said, "Okay, what's the end result." The end result, we're trying to get somebody, right? Just to create a funnel with leads coming in. It's okay to do that. If I was to break down over five days of all the frameworks I have, that I've taught, that I know, that I understand. What are the frameworks that people need that they'll have success and be able to do that, right? And so day number one, I shared with you guys the overarching framework, right? Here's the big framework of how to generate leads online. Okay, that's how day number one was. Kind of a big broad overview of like this is how it works, right? And works through all the pieces. Like you have to have a lead magnet, then you got to have a squeeze page, then you got to have an email sequence and you have to drive traffic. And so day one was me sharing the framework of the entire week, right? And then, yesterday, if you guys noticed when I taught all ideas, I had three frameworks I taught you guys, did you catch this? Okay, I had three frameworks, okay? How many of you guys remember? The very first framework that I showed you guys was my framework. I'll go back here and show you this. Let me flip my whiteboard back over. Okay, the first framework I talked about with you guys was this one right here, right? I'm talking about who is your dream customer, what's the result you're trying to get for them and then what are the steps to that journey, right? Okay, so that was the framework I taught you guys. Now when I taught you guys, did you notice how I taught this? I didn't just say, okay, here's how the framework works, right? The way I taught it, is first off what I did as I told you the story about how I learned to earned it, right? And then I walked you through the overarching strategy. Here's the concept of how it works, okay? And then your homework assignment, the one pager gave you the tactics, right? And I shared a ton of case studies throughout thinking of like how has worked for me and for other people, right? That was the first framework I shared. Okay, second framework I shared, boom was called the ultra result. Right, what is the ultimate result, right? And what are the core results? And from there what are the splint results? And from there we're gonna it and create you one pager, okay? That was the second. The second framework I taught was the ultimate result, right? And then third framework I taught was what? Boom, my framework for how to teach frameworks. Okay, like that literally it. So there's behind the curtains. Yes, there's like, "Hey, what are the frameworks I need to teach them today from my bag of frameworks and my bag of tricks and things that I have that can help give them the tools they need to be successful with day number two." Okay, so day number three, same as I was planning out. Okay, day number three. We're talking about actually creating your lead funnel, right? You've got a lead magnet. Now you need a funnel, this is the mechanism. This is the tool. It's gonna give somebody to give you their email address in exchange for your lead magnet, right? So it's like what are the frameworks that they need today to for just to understand for them to make sense and then I'm going to go and give them the tool, right? And so there's two frameworks I'm gonna be teaching today. Okay, so, hopefully, have seeing this like I'm practicing what I'm preaching. I'm not just pointing on my head like this is... I'm showing you guys exactly what I'm doing and hopefully this has given you a model. Okay, I always tell people I feel like my main role here at ClickFunnels is to be like someone who's doing things so you guys can look at it and you can model it in your business, right? Like I don't need to keep doing live trainings. I don't need to keep like... I'm fine. Like financially, I'm good, I can take a break. I can take a year or two or six years off and be completely fine. Okay, I keep doing this because I love it. Number one, I love this game. It's so much fun. Number two, I'm trying to show you guys models so you can like, "Oh, I can see I can model that in my business. Oh, I can do what Russell did over here." I can do a five day challenge. What would be my frameworks, what would I teach people, right? I can create my own lead magnet. What would I create? Russell, show me three of his what could I do for a lead magnet, right? I'm trying to show you guys stuff so you can look at it, you can think through it and figure how to model that for your specific business as well. Okay, and that's like you play in the game. So I keep sharing and hope you guys don't mind. I'm gonna keep on talking until I can't talk anymore because I love this stuff. I love seeing the ahas that you guys have. Okay, I remember when I first got into this game at 18, 18, 19 years ago now, and I was a young kid. I was wrestling at Boise State University and I was learning about this stuff. This is before webinars. I remember back then people did tele-seminars. And so I would get the tele-seminar recording. I had this little tape recorder that I got at radio shack and I would go hook it from my phone system. I click record and tape these teleseminars onto cassette tapes, right? And then 'cause most of them that I was in school or different places I couldn't like listen to them live and I wanted to hear them over and over again. So I taped all these cassette tapes and then I'd go on wrestling trips and we'd be in these vans, and we have like 8, 10, 12 hour drives in these vans and I get these cassette tapes out of these teleseminars I've recorded of people teaching some of these concepts when I first learned them. I remember listening to the tape, listening in the car with my headphones on and everyone else in the car sleeping or listening to music. I'm listening to these guys talk about these marketing principles. I remember just feeling like so alive and so excited. I'm just like this is the most exciting thing in the world, okay? And for me like I've had a chance to discover these things. I remember how excited I was when I first learned, when I first applied them, they actually worked, I was freaking out. And so for me the closest thing I can get to that same excitement is coming to you and sharing with Mike. And I see your guys' eyes light up when you get that aha moment or what are those things are like, "Aha, for me, it's like me. I have a chance to relive it again through you guys." And so that's why I love doing this and I love sharing these things and, hopefully, you guys feel that coming through for me. Okay, do you notice by the way when I told you guys the story of my... The framework of how to use frameworks, how I started it. By the way yesterday, right? I told you my story about how I learned to earn it. I was on stage and I was casting my pearls before swine. I told that story before I gave you this framework, okay? The pattern is repeated over and over and over again. All right, so that said now we're going to jump into today, which, again, the goal today is for us to build out our very first funnel, okay? So I'm gonna talk about two core frameworks you have to understand and then I'm gonna let you guys go. Probably ti's gonna be a little earlier today. And I'm gonna give you one pager which is gonna give you assignment. It's gonna walk you through tactics and you actually gonna have a chance to build your funnel today. And I prebuilt six funnels for you guys this weekend and you can pick any of the six or download all of them. You're gonna have them and it's giving you the framework. I'm gonna be giving you a new software tool that Jim Edwards built for you guys. We're literally filling in some blanks, you click a button, and it creates all the copy for every single page here inside your lead funnel, which is insanely cool and a bunch of other really cool things. So that's what's happening. And then tomorrow we've got a special guest coming in. It's gonna to be... I'm excited to introduce her she's gonna be coming and will be talking about the emails you send out, okay? And so that'll be happening tomorrow and then on Friday we've no special guests. She's actually flying here from Texas. She sent me a picture of her at the airport and she's gonna teach you guys how to launch these funnels and start getting traffic coming in for free. So it's gonna be a... The rest of the week will really be fun and exciting, okay? But for right now we're gonna dive into building out your lead funnel. Now I'm curious how many guys here who are watching, you've had a chance to read any of my books? Specifically, The Dotcom Secrets book. So Dotcom Secrets book is the first book I wrote. The hardbound version, new updated hardbound version. If you have the soft bound it's good. This one is way better. I rewrote this from the ground up I added, I don't know, I added 40,000 or 50,000 new words to this. New frameworks, new things. It's awesome, but in this book this is the book that teaches the core fundamentals of funnel building. You don't have a copy yet, you can get a free copy at dotcomsecrets.com But this is... A lot of the things I'm comes from his books. If you want to go deeper into that, make sure you get a copy of the Dotcom Secrets book, okay? Okay, so one of the principles I talked about Dotcom Secrets book is this concept that I call the value ladder, okay? And some of you has heard me talk about this before but this... For you to be successful with funnels and lead funnels and all the stuff we're talking about you have to understand this core principle. It's something that's so simple where when you get it, it changes everything, okay? So if you look at this, I'm gonna draw two axis on this thing, okay? Over here, this is gonna be price and this is going to be value, okay? Now if you think about it as a business owner you want to provide the most amount of value possible for people to come into your world, right? And so I think about that and I'm like if somebody comes to me like, Russell, I read your books. This is really, really cool. I want you to... What's the best thing you can offer me. Like whatever it is I will give you. Whatever it takes, I want you to just to do this whole thing. What's the most value you can possibly offer me, the highest amount of value, right? So for me if I was to like provide you guys a home, the most amount of value it would be basically I would pay for you to fly out here to my house, we sit in a room for a week. I would figure out what your business is, your product and I would go and write the scripts for yourselves and I'd create your funnels, I'd drive traffic, I would do everything for you, right? I guess the most value I could offer, right? If I just did the whole thing for you. And if you think about it, right? The value would be insane. It'd be clear up here but the problem is because it takes so much time and effort for me and for my staff, my team, and my everything because the price would also be high as well, right? So this will be... This would be like the most value I could possibly be... This is your smiley face. This the most value I could possibly give to you, okay? Now, honestly, if I was to do something like that the reality because it's just how much time and effort it would take me to provide that much value this is something that I would probably have to sell for at least $1 million cash up front plus I would say 40% to 60% of the company depending on how much I'm actually running long-term, okay? But that's the most value I can possibly provide somebody, okay? Now it's funny to think about this if I was to walk up to you on the side of the street, the very first day I'm like, "Hey, my name is Russell Brunson and I would love to build a funnel for you." If you want to write me a check for $1 million plus give me 60% of your company, I will do this for you. How many guys would be like, "That's awesome, Russell, I'm going to do it." Right, how many guys will look at me and be like, "Russell, you look like you're 11 years old. You want $1 million to build a funnel? And then you want more than half of my business. It makes no sense," right? Okay, the reason is because I've provided no value at this point, you have no context. Like is that a good deal or a bad I don't even know, right? So traditionally in businesses we don't just go lead with our best thing because we haven't shown value to the people first, right? So instead what we do is we come down here at the bottom of the value ladder. We say, "Okay, what's something I can do that provides value that's not gonna cost a ton of money," right? I'm gonna do something right here. Okay, so for me and for you this is like a lead funnel, right? Give me your email address, I guess the price of the members. Give me your email address I'm gonna give you this lead magnet, okay? And you're gonna get it you'll get some value from that lead magnet, right? And they get that and they're like, "Oh my gosh this is really good." And what do we do as humans? We get value from something. What do we naturally want, okay? If we get value from something or from somebody we naturally want more. So people come here to get value. This is lovely, this is amazing. That's awesome, that's cool. The next thing it say, "Okay, how can we get more value?" Okay, and now you step them up your value ladder to the next thing. That's gonna be a little bit more expensive. Okay, the price goes up but the value goes up as well. Okay, the good case is like you buy one of my books. My books are free plus shipping, right? So it's $10 basically you get my book. The value is here but the price is low. You get that and you read the book like this is amazing, one more. Right, these are ClickFunnel and then you come to our events and like naturally start sending up, okay? And so that happens here. If somebody gets value here they go to the next year. Boom to the next year until eventually this is not that expensive. Okay, I guarantee if I send an email to my list and say, "Hey, I'm going to be building out five people's funnels. It's $1 million down and I want 50% of your business. I guarantee I get five people within 24 hours." Okay, because there's people who've gone through this process with me who understand the value of what I bring to the table and that'd be a no brainer, okay? 'Cause they've been through this before. Okay, you think about this. This is true in like all aspects of life. Think about your significant other, the first time you met them, right? Okay, if you came to... Let's say you're gonna go on a date with a girl and you're like, "Hey, you are cute. The most value I can have you. I want to get married, we're gonna have a bunch of kids and then grandkids and it's gonna be amazing, right? If you said that to a girl or to a dude or whatever, they'd be like you're crazy. Like this person is nuts, right? And they're gonna freak out. So that's not how you go approach somebody if you want to date them or whatever, right? You start down here and you say, "Hey, do you want to go on a date?" Like, "Okay, how's that work?" We can go to dinner and a movie, right? The price isn't that high, the value is not that big a deal until you go on a date and then what happens. If the day goes good and the person sees value, like this was a great date. Now, I want more and you say, "Hey, do you want to go on a second date." And they're like, "Yeah." Okay, do you want to go another date and eventually there's a time when you come and say, "Hey, do you want to get married? I want to have kids with you and have a family and have grandkids someday." Well, all of a sudden that question is not this thing that freaks me out. It's like, "Yes, of course, you've given me value every single step in this relationship. I want to continue that forever, okay? So it works in relationships, it works in business, it works everywhere. And so this is what we have to understand. This is what I call the value ladder, okay? And so this is what we're doing here inside the five-day lead challenge. We're introducing people into our world here at the bottom of the value ladder. Okay, we're giving them something where the cost is their email address. It's not expensive. Give me an email, I'm gonna give you this thing. And if they get that first framework they get that first one page, they get that first lead magnet and they go through it and they're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing. I want more, I want to on a second date." Okay, I want to go to the next step. I want to take the next level. I want to do the next thing with you. Now, also you build this relationship and people come over and over and over. Okay, when I first launched my books and I started giving things away for free it changed my entire business, right? I was doing a lot of stuff before but I gave people this thing that read it they got value and they wanted to go the next thing, the next to the next thing and now we have clients that pay us $50,000, $100,000 a year and beyond because the value we provided at every single step. Okay, so that's what our goal is. Now a couple of things. If you read the Dotcom Secrets book I share like each tier in the value ladder there's different types of funnels associated with them, right? So this bottom tier right here, we call this lead funnels. I think there's three or four that I share in the book. But the one that we're gonna be going through today is the most basic, the most simple, and it's a two-step lead funnel. Okay, lead squeeze funnel, okay? So that's the first one. I list here in the value ladder. Typically we use what I call unboxing funnels. My handwriting's horrible but there's an unboxing funnels, okay? And earlier I told you guys about the One Funnel Away challenge, the One Funnel Away challenge, actually, we spend all the time at this tier in the value ladder. Okay, the sales funnel we build out is a type of unboxing funnel and that's what we do during the One Funnel Away challenge, okay? The next tier up from here is what we call presentation funnels. Presentation funnels. This is where we're selling a little more expensive things. This is doing it like a webinar or doing a product launch funnel, things like that. So there's different types of funnels to sell a higher ticket stuff. In the top tier, this we're selling really expensive stuff. There are different high ticket funnels that we use as well, okay? And so, again, each tier of the value ladder there's different types of funnels we use, okay? But for this training for the five day lead challenge we're spending all of our time focused at this tier of the value ladder, generating leads. Okay, and again, there's a couple types of funnels that we build but the most basic, the most simple one is just the two-step lead funnel, okay? So that's what I'll going to be creating today, okay? This is something that is not complicated, it's not hard, it's not frustrating. You literally can create this today and be done. If you create your lead magnet and your one pager yesterday you've got everything you need to have your funnel completely done, completely finished, and ready to rock and roll, okay? So that's what we're gonna be doing today for your homework assignment is actually building it out inside of ClickFunnels, which is going to be so much fun. I made a whole video showing you the process and walking you through, okay? So, again, that's the first framework I want to teach you guys was the value ladder. Okay, so I'll write value here so you can remember. Here's the value ladder, okay? And, again, if you want to go deep and just get more examples and case studies, Dotcom Secrets book, I share a bunch of different ones, okay? So that's the value ladder. Okay, so now I want to go here. We're gonna talk about this right here. We're gonna talking about the lead funnel. So on day one I kind of told you guys a little bit about the double your dating funnel that I found when I was first getting started. When I was first trying to build a list, right? Where Eben Pagan had the kiss test. It had never been shown yet he was like, "Step one, give your email address I'm going to teach you the kiss test." And then on page two he gave you the kiss test. That was the lead magnet, right? And so prior to that, before like that was one of the first we call it a squeeze page and I will explain why here in a bit. It was the very first squeeze pages I'd ever seen. Now, prior to that, I had learned about list-building and the way that people built lists back then was different, okay? Again, I've been online doing this now for over 18 years which is crazy. So back when I got started in this the game was different, right? It was way harder. This is before Facebook ads, before YouTube, before MySpace, right? When I got started MySpace wasn't a thing yet. In fact, you guys remember what the social network was pre MySpace. Okay, the OGs remember this. It was called Friendster. And we were trying to figure out how to use Friendster to build a lists. But back then it was a little differently. So this is what the internet looked like back then. People would have a website, okay? There's a website here and this is what my doodle of a website looks like, okay? All right, so here's the website. And if you remember this you would go to somebody's website, right? You go to Google or you go to Yahoo or Ask Jeeves or whatever it was back in the day and you go somewhere and shop this website and then what would happen? Do you guys remember this? I'll give you a hit. It was like the most annoying thing on the planet. Okay, you shop this website and like this is awesome. I'm reading a scene and all of a sudden a certain a thing would pop up and they call it what? A pop-up. This pop-up would come up and be like, "Aha." Most of times is like, "Congratulations you won. You're the 1 million visitor to our website, put your email address down below to get a 30% discount." Guys, did ever see these? And so it was like the thing, like put your email address in and click submit and you win. So that was kind of what these popups were, okay? And the people that I knew that I was learning from initially this is how they're making their money. This is how they're building the list. They would go and they would do pop-ups. So you drive traffic your site and they'd get a pop-up, okay. And then people put the email address and they started building a list, okay? It was interesting and then what started happening, I love the history of this. Then, remember, for me, I was like why don't have a website with a bunch of traffic to it? Like how do I... I don't want popups. And so these pop-up advertising networks we could go in and say, "Okay, here's my pop-up." I want it to show up on 1,000 sites or one million sites or whatever you put in how many impressions you wanted. So then somebody would go to random site and because I paid for my pop-up would pop up and it would a pop up like, "Hey, congratulations, thanks for coming to the website put your email address down below for this free report, for this free lead magnet," right? And so while that's what I was doing it was awesome. I was going... I was paying these networks. I was paying money to have my pop-up show up on all these websites around the internet and I started building lists and I was like, "This is so cool." But then what happened, okay? It started getting more annoying 'cause what would happen is that these advertisers would be like, "Well, if I can sell one pop-up for like 30 cents what if I sold three or 10 or 12?" How many of you members you go to website and seen by pop up, pop up, pop up like four or five popups pop up you're like, "What's happening to my computer, I'm just freaking out," right? Internet Explorer is crashing this a whole nightmare, right? And so it got more and more annoying to the point where like Internet Explorer and the browsers we're like, "This is done. Let's just block all popups." And instantly overnight they create these things, called pop-up blockers. They would block all these pop-ups and boom they're gone. Now for those who... Most of you guys were probably in the spot at a time in your life. Like thank heavens the pop-ups are gone but on the other side the marketers like me who were building huge lists of millions of people off these popups start freaking out like our lead source is gone. It just dried up, it disappeared overnight, right? And they're freaking out and we're freaking out like, "What do we do?" Okay, well, all you thought it was the end of the internet as we know it, right? And then there were some really smart people and I don't know who it was initially but someone said, what if we take this model, someone comes to the website and this thing pops up and we get their email address. What if we flip it around? And be like what are you talking about? It's like what if we did this? What if the first thing people see, instead is this page that says, hey, here's the free report, you put in your name and your email address, right? And then they click submit and then it takes them to the actual website, right? That was the premise. And so instead of driving people to the website and having a pop-up we would drive them directly to the pop-up. And I remember people, like this was the debate in all the marketing forums back and they're like, "No, you can't do that." You're an idiot because nobody is actually gonna see your website. And you'd be like, "Yeah, but then I can't get emails. I can't follow up with people and no one is buying. I have to follow up a bunch of times before they're willing to buy and dah, dah, dah, all sorts of stuff like that. And so this was the controversy, okay? And about those time is when a couple people started testing it. One of them was Eben Pagan, okay, the guy who own Double Your Dating. This is where he said, "Okay, let me try this." Boom, give me your email address I'm gonna give you the free kiss test. People put email in, come over here, learn the kiss test, got value and then the bottom of page sold them his ebook. Boom blew up in $20 million business, okay? Then other people started doing, other people start doing and I was like, "Oh my gosh, this actually works." Okay, don't think about the metrics on this, but what happened? Let's say you had 100, actually, let's go this way. Okay, let's say over here let's say you had 100 visitors come to your website, right? 100 visitors come, so a hundred times this pop came up, maybe you got like 20% of the people to put their email address in here, right? See 100% of people saw your website and only 20% joined your list, okay? And then you flip it over here, what would happen is you send those same 100 people to come over here and from here you get anywhere from who knows, let's 20% I guess. So 20% of people give you the email address, right? Then only 20% of people actually ever see your site and see, like, this is not going to work because you got one fifth as much traffic actually sees your site. But what they didn't realize is and this is what made the whole thing work is that these 20% people then gave you their email address, right? Now you have the email address and you can go out here and you can send an email. Okay, so like again 20% will see that. And you send the email to 20% and you remind them about the thing and you send another email and you remind them. And you send another email and you can send three or four emails push people back to this thing and you can follow up with them. And they found at the time, I don't know if the numbers are the same or not but at the time it took someone on average seven times seeing your website before they were willing to buy. So what was happening in the past is you drive, pay for that as soon as come here, pay for them and after seven times of seeing then they buy. We're now happy to pay for them once. They joined your list and you send an email one, two, three, four, and by email seven a huge percentage had bought the thing. But now you have them on your list, right? Now you have them on your list, now what you do with that list, okay? Well, yeah, you have them on your list now you come back to your value. Okay, they're on my list now, you send five, six emails someone bought my very first product. What's the next thing I sell. Oh, I can sell this, oh, I can sell this and all of a sudden they had the ability to now generate their own traffic. They have their own leads. They own traffic now. They didn't always have to go to Facebook or Google or YouTube to buy new leads, right? They own the list. They can say I want to send the list over there and send and they send and boom the list shows up there. I'm going to send over here, boom, and they can just send it to different places, okay? Where is this idea for five day lead challenge of two or three weeks ago. I was like, "I'm going to do this thing, we're gonna put up a squeeze page, right? It's okay opt in to this page. I sent emails to my list and 35,000 of you came and opted in. I didn't pay Zuckerberg for that list, I didn't have to pay. That came because I own that traffic, right? I control, I can send it to different places, okay? And so it changed the dynamics of people's businesses, all right? So you come back here. Yeah, maybe only 20% people give you email address but now it's what I'm saying you follow up, you close a higher percentage and when all is said and done at the end of the day you actually end up making more money, okay? And that was the power. Now the cool thing of the internet. Internet is actually getting cooler since back in the day 'cause now you can have these things called retargeting ads where I can go deep into this but you see this before you can put a retargeting pixel on this page. So someone comes and 20% give you their email address but then 80% leave. So 80% of people leave, right? Like, oh, they're gone. But Facebook and YouTube and Google will allow you follow those people around and keep pushing them back and keep pushing them back till you get a higher percentage of people that can actually come and put their email address in, okay? That's outside of the context we're talking about now but it's pretty cool because retargeting has given the ability to the people who bounce and leave to keep getting them and keep coming back and you push them into your funnels, okay? So that is what a lead squeeze is. We called this a squeeze page because traffic is coming in. You're squeezing their email address out and then you're giving them value. And if they receive value at this step in the tier, right from your lead magnet this is amazing, I want more then they naturally want to ascend up the value ladder, okay? People that came into Double Your Dating, they came for the kiss test, they read this kiss test and like this is amazing, they read down and like what else does this person have? I want more value. I want to go on second date with them, right? And at the end of the end of the kiss test, right? What would I have on offer? And he said, "Okay, well you got the kiss test. I've got this ebook called Double Your Dating for $97. Do you want to buy the ebook?" And they're like, "Heck, yeah." They bought the ebook, boom, right? And people read the ebook like this is amazing, a bunch of cool stuff that happens like cool stuff in the ebook, guess what? I've got a live event where we teach men how to do this in life. Okay, the live is x amount of dollars and can people come to the event. Not everyone, okay, but a big percentage of people who got value of this step want the next step. And the live event is like, "Oh, by the way he's mentioning coaching programs." Boom, push you to the next step. Okay, and that's how this game is played, okay? Now for you all you guys are going to think about it a little differently. What does your business look like? Like what's my value ladder. Like y'all have to kind of figure out what's gonna be 'cause everyone's different, right? I remember when my wife and I first got married I had not had dental insurance for probably five or six years. I got married. My parents cut me off like, "You're an adult now, good luck." So I had no dental insurance, I couldn't afford it. Fast forward like six years later my business is running, I have a couple of employees. My employees come to me and they're like, "Hey, Russell, since I worked for you, can I get benefits?" And I put it in context. I'd never actually had a job before. I was wrestling so I never had a job. So I had a couple of employees and they're like, "Russell, we're gonna have benefits?" I'm like, "What does that mean?" "Like benefits where you pay for stuff for us." So I'm like, "I pay your salary." Like, "No, no like dental insurance and health insurance." And I was like, "Is this is really thing." I'd never heard that before, right? And, yeah, it really is. I'm like, "Okay." So I went and we figured out how to get benefits for our employees and we got dental insurance, right? And so I'm like, "Sweetheart, I haven't seen a dentist in six years, I should go to dentists." And about that time I get in the mail a lead magnet. I got the thing in the mail is a yellow postcard and said, "Hey, there's a new... We're a new dentist in town. If you want you can come into to our office and get a free teeth cleaning." And my wife and I are like, "Sweet we haven't cleaned our teeth in six years outside of her own brushing let's go." Boom, there's a lead magnet, right? Okay, so we call the dentist like, "Hey, we got this big old yellow postcard in the mail and you got a teeth clean?" He's like, "Sure, it's free come on in." So we come on in, right? Boom, I get the lead magnet. The dentist or the hygienist and they're all working on my teeth, cleaning my teeth are providing what? Providing value and like getting my teeth cleaned and do all sorts of stuff. And the dentist comes afterwards looking to like, "Cool your teeth are clean." I just had a question for you like, "Are you a smoker? Do you drink coffee or something?" And I was like, "What?" No, I'm not a smoker. No, I don't drink coffee either." I'm like, "Why would you ask?" And he says, "Oh, well, your teeth are kind of... Just like kind of yellow. I don't know if you noticed because I turned my yellow I assume, maybe you drink coffee or smoke or something." I'm like, "No, I don't do any of that stuff." He's like, "Oh, well, if you want," he is like I can provide you more value. He didn't say that but I can give you a teeth whitening kit where you start whitening your teeth at home that way it goes from yellow back to white. I was like, "Are you kidding me? Yes, please do that." He's like, "Cool let me you a fitting for some teeth whitening kit." He fits my teeth whitening kit I was like, "Thank you so much." And so I get that, right? So he provided more value and I had to pay for that, right? And then while he's doing more stuff he's like, "By the way did you used to have braces when you were young?" I was like, "Yeah, why?" He's like, "Oh, I can tell because your teeth are recrowding and a lot has happened with your braces off over years so your teeth are kind of recrowding. I'm like, "Are you serious?" He's like, "Yeah, they don't look bad but they are definitely like shifting around." And I was like, "Are you kidding me? Well, I don't want crooked teeth, what do I do?" And he's like, "Well, if you want we can build a retainer for you which help keep your teeth in place or we can do invisalign which will help realign." And I was like, "Yes, please," right? And so he did what? He provided more value to me, right? And so he's going through this so by the time he was done I got done with this experience of the dentist, I leave and I write them a check for $2,000 or $3,000. Now am I angry about the experience? No. Why? He brought me in to this thing for free. I got value, I'm like, "This is amazing. I got a free teeth clean, it's amazing." He's like, "Hey, I can provide more value. I can make your teeth whiter." I'm like, "Sweet make them white." He's like, "I can add more value, I keep your teeth straight." I'm like, "Sweet," right? And he could have offered cosmetic dentistry, whatever the thing was, right? But he had his own value ladder. That's how he made money off of me. And then the next day my wife came in she got her teeth cleaned and she left there $2,000 or $3,000 check in the process worked, right? Every business has a value out of it. If you don't have a value ladder yet, you're probably not in a very good business, okay? Your job is if you're like, "What's the process?" Why are you taking people through, okay? Now, again, that's kind of outside the context of the five day challenge 'cause our goal in five day challenge is this, how do we dominate this? How do we get so much value and people are like, "This is amazing, this one page of this framework." It's changed my life. This is awesome. I got this thing, I want more. Okay, like I said in the One Funnel Away challenge, we're starting on Monday we're going to go deep into this. Right, how do you create this sales funnel? So after they receive value, they're already getting... They like have a hole burning of pocket. I want to give you money. Like, "What's the next step?" You can be like, "Oh, here's the next step?" And pushing the next funnel. I wish I could spend like eight hours a day going deep into that but that's what the One Funnel Away challenge is. We're starting on Monday live just like this. So, anyway, does that make sense? So those are the two frameworks I share with yesterday. Okay, the value ladder and the understanding of very basic, very simple two-step lead funnel, okay? One of the most basic types of funnels to generate leads, okay? All right, so I'm gonna show you guys what the game plan is. Now that you have your lead magnet, today's assignment is we're gonna be building out the most basic, most simple funnels. The two-step funnel, okay? On this page in the funnel you are gonna give people your actual lead magnet, okay? The thing you created yesterday you're gonna give it to them. Then come here there is gonna be a big button that says download and they're gonna download your one pager, right? You're gonna tell them thank you. We call this a thank you page. Okay, 'cause it says thank you. Thank you so much for giving me your email address here's where you can download the lead magnet I just promised you. Okay, this is a thank you page. Okay, this page right here is what we call a squeeze page. Okay, squeeze pages are very simple. They're very basic. The most easiest page in the world came. Okay, most of my squeeze pages take me less than five minutes to build. Okay, I built six of them for you that I'm giving you on the one pager. You have a chance to see them in a minute. Okay, basically what a squeeze page is, there's typically a headline, maybe a sub headline, a picture of your one pager and the spot for them to put in their email and click submit. That's it. One of the most simple things in the world. And sometimes like Facebook they want you to have longer pages, okay? If you do just add some more bullet points down below with more context of what they're gonna learn about in your one pager. That's your squeeze page, squeeze page, thank you page. Two pages, most simple funnel on the planet. You can literally create it in five to 10 minutes, okay? And so that's what we're gonna be creating today. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Now, a couple of things, okay? The tool that creates these funnels. If you know me at all, if you've listened to me, anything I've said in the last six years you've probably heard of ClickFunnels. Okay, ClickFunnels is my company. It's the tool that builds funnels. We have over 120,000 active members who use it, okay? A lot of you guys who are here already have ClickFunnels accounts. If you don't yet I'm gonna give you guys a 14 day trial to use it today so you can build out this funnel so you can have your very first lead squeeze funnel, okay? That's number one. Number two, one of my business partners, Jim Edwards, creates some really cool software that we can give you for free today as well. And then when go in here you're gonna take information about who is your dream customer, right? We talked about your dream customer yesterday. Who's your dream customer. He's asked you a whole bunch of questions about that. And then who is my dream customer, what do they care about and you fill out this form. When you fill out the form then there's two or three forms you're gonna fill out, you're filling about your dream customer about things like that. And then you click a button and what it's going to do is it's actually gonna write all these things. It's gonna to write the headlines, it gonna can write the sub headlines, correct? All these different bullet points. It's gonna write the copy that goes right here. It's gonna write all that stuff for you. You fill out the form and you click submit and writes it all for you then you literally just copy it and paste it. Copy, paste, copy, paste, copy, paste and now you've got a funnel that's set up and ready to convert people and they show up. Okay, this is called copy. The words on the page is called copy. Copy is something that gets people to do something you're gonna to do. And you can guess and try to write good copy but the software has been built for you is gonna make this copy super easy deal, it's high converting. It took the best headlines from all time. Like over the last like 100 years from the best highest converting headlines and reverse engineer in the software. So you tell them your product it'll pop out like here's a hundred headlines based on the highest converting headlines in the history of the world. And you take those and say, "Oh, this will actually go to my landing page and you can tweak it around, you can change them but it's powerful, okay? You don't have to guess and think like what's gonna work. Like the software is gonna write a copy that's gonna work for you out the gate. And we're giving that to you for free for being here. So that's a gift we wanted to give you guys 'cause it's gonna make this process simpler, okay? And so today's assignment, like I said, if yesterday if you did your assignment it means you already have, oops, you already have the lead magnet done. So today we're gonna build the two pages, we're gonna put the plug the copy in, we're gonna plug the lead magnet on the download button and then you're gonna be finished, okay? It shouldn't take that long. If it's your first time on ClickFunnels it might take you a little bit of time but there's a video of me walking through every single step of the process and it's not gonna be hard. Okay, tomorrow what we're gonna be doing is, after somebody gives you their email address, right? Now we have these emails that go out, right? The question is what do we say on these emails, okay? There's actually six emails we sent out initially, okay? Six emails to build relationship people and get them to buy to your next thing in your value ladder. Okay, so tomorrow I have a special guest, Jada Golden, who's gonna be coming and talking about what to send in those six emails. We also built software for you where you fill in the form, you click the button and it'll pre-write these six emails for you and then you plug those into ClickFunnels. That's happening tomorrow. It's gonna be really, really cool but for today this what we're doing on these two pages, okay? All right, I'm gonna have my team pull the one pager. So on my screen here this is the one pager I'm gonna give you guys today. We love one pages, they're the most exciting thing in the world. Number one you notice the very top it here it says... Scroll back up to the very top. It says your next challenge is you choose except to start sitting one phone, wait 30 day challenge. If you want to join the live challenge that starts Monday, okay, this is the 30 day challenge. We're gonna go through and build out your actual sales funnel. The second tier in the value ladder, click on that button and sign up. It is not... The 5 Day Challenge has been free, the One Funnel Away challenge is $100, okay? So if you want to go the next step with me, if you receive value here so far and like I want to go next to your Russell's value ladder to figure out how to build out my next and my value ladder click on that link and join the challenge. Okay, you don't have to but that's there if you're looking for it, okay? This video right here now, this is a 32 minute video of me teaching and showing the actual tactics. Okay, this is me literally going to ClickFunnels and doing it and then going to Jim's software and doing it. So you'll see me at my house hanging out with you doing your assignments. You have like, "How does work, I'm confused" Watch the video, I do the assignment with you. Just pause it copy me, play, pause, play, pause, and just do it with me, okay? As scroll down here and see what the landing page looks like we're gonna be building here. Here you get your ClickFunnels 14 day trial. Here's where you get the funnel scripts light tool that's going to write all the copy for you. And then these are six different templates I built out for you, okay? So there's six landing page templates that are amazing. This first right here, this is the landing page template. It has been the highest converting one for me. I will show you in the video but literally that template there over the last year has got me over 250,000 leads and I gave you that one as well. A bunch of other really cool ones are there so you can pick one of those six templates you want to use. You click on the button it copies into your ClickFunnels account and you can edit it. Okay, so there were three quick little video of me and Jim, you click on that video, it'll take you to a page. It gives you the software, it shows you how to use it. You're gonna fill in that software, click in the blanks, click submit and write all the copy for you, okay? Let's go back to the one pager. Oh, we just lost it. So, again, the software you filled out it'll write it all the copy and we can get back to the one pager here hopefully. He calls the back buttons. We can it get back. There we go. Oh, open a new window there you go. Okay, then you take the copy from Jim's software, you can plug it into the ClickFunnels page and then just go through. Basically, you go through the to-do list. After you finished the do list everything would be done. Oh, September 3rd, other cool thing is, remember I told you here typically I have a picture of my ecover for the thing that the lead magnet they're getting. Okay, if you want inside a one page is actually a really cool tool that will build you out. and actually ecover. You fill in some blanks, click the buttons and boom it creates an ecover that you can then put on your squeeze page here or else I give you two other resources of places you can get your covers design. Okay, I'm not a designer. I don't know how to design things so you can either create it for free inside of one pager or you can use some of the other resources like one is called Funnel Rolodex. Funnel Rolodex is a marketplace of funnel builders and designers who can design these things for you. Okay, if you're like I don't want to do a funnel, Russell, I'm scared to death you go to funnel Rolodex and there's, again, programmers designers you can hire to build your funnels for you. There's always people can do the ecover for you there as well. Okay, there's other resources as well but all of the stuff's on the one pager. This is our gifts use of scroll, go back to the top and getting rid of... Get the one pager. The first thing is, watch this video. It's gonna show the assignment and then go through the assignment. By the time you're done you'll have your lead funnel done and ready to rock and roll, okay? These two pieces will be done and you'll be prepared for tomorrow 'cause tomorrow we're going to be building out the email sequence plugging it in. And when that's done, then Friday we're gonna be dumping tons of traffic into this thing and your first set of leads will be coming through and it's gonna be fun. So with that said my team is gonna put the link down below. This link it say one pager, okay? Get in fivedayleadchallenge.com/clickfunnels. That is going to take you directly. It'll automatically take you this page save the page and now you have it inside your one pager your account and you can go to the homework assignment and all the other things involved. That's like fun you guys. I'm having so much fun of these. I hope you guys are enjoying today's training and all of these trainings so far. I'm super grateful. First off to have the platform be able to share this with you guys. Like I said, it means the world to me watching you guys have the aha moments like for the very first time. I still remember experiencing a lot of these ahas myself and I love giving them to you. It's hopefully, as my aha moments and now it's just doing the actual work and works that hard luckily. Okay, we started the most simple funnel a two-step funnel. It's very simple, it's very easy. I give you templates, we give you software and we will will write copy. We give you software to build out the ecovers, all the things you need. Again, it's all on one pager down below. So go to fivedayleadchallenge.com/clickfunnels. It'll take you to this one pager, save in your account, watch the video, do the assignment, and then we'll be meeting back here tomorrow. Same time, same place. And then your email sequences is written out and plugged in and we're one step closer to the finish line. So that's it, guys. Thanks, again, so much. Get the one pager down below and I will see you guys tomorrow. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Creating Your Lead Funnel (ClickFunnels) - FDLC: Day 3 of 5 full 514 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is day 3 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to . Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is... This is day 3 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, we're going day into number three of the Five Day Lead Challenge. Hopefully, you've enjoyed the last two episodes. If you haven't listened to those yet, make sure you get them all in order, because they all build upon each other. But this is day number three. And today we're talked about creating your lead funnel, right? Day number one we talked about the strategy of generating leads online day. Number two, we built out your lead magnet and now on number three, we're going to start building your lead funnel. This is the most basic, most simple and one of the most powerful types of funnels you can create. So we'll be talking about that during today's episode. Once again, this is from a video event that we did, and so if you want to see the videos and see the screenshots and get the one pager homework and all that stuff, you can get those for free at fivedayleadchallenge.com. So that said, I hope you enjoy this episode on creating your lead funnel. Welcome to day number three of the five day lead challenge. Have you guys been enjoying this process so far? I'm actually really curious. This is the first time we've ever done training like this where we go live every single day. A whiteboard out with strategy. We give you the tactics. We give you the one pager, and you go do the homework assignment. I'm curious and I'd love to know the comments. I'll read these afterwards, but let me know in the comments if you guys are enjoying this process. I think it's a fun, cool, new way to train. So if you do like it let me know. If you're getting a lot of value out also I'd love to be able to see it. Let me know in the comments down below. One really cool thing that I'm excited about that I'm kind of let guys know and then we'll jump into the training. As we were planing this I was having so much fun with it. A lot of you guys know we do a training called One Funnel Away. How many guys I've ever heard of the One Funnel Away challenge or been part of the One Funnel Away challenge? Okay, so we launched the One Funnel Away challenge, man, about two years ago now. And in the last two years over 70,000 people have gone through which is crazy. So thank you. I hope you had a chance to go through and you enjoyed it. But it's been two years and I love teaching. I get excited and like, I don't know about you. Every time I talk about something, I get off stage. I'm like, "Oh, I want to do it again. I can change this. I can tweak this. I can make it better." And I really decided after OFS like I want to do it again. And I'm really enjoying this process and so I talked to my team. I was like, "What if we did OFA again, but this time do it live?" And do it live over 30 days where we do the same process. So I come up here, I talked to you guys for 30 minutes or so, give you a one-pager, and give you a homework assignment and go every single day over 30 days and the end of it we do the next year, right? This whole five day lead challenge is all about getting your first lead funnel, getting leads coming in. The One Funnel Away challenge is about creating it for sales funnel. We're actually selling products and making money. So my question to you is if we were to do that, if we were to go and do One Funnel Away live starting Monday, how many has to be interested in being part of that? If so write in the comments down below 'cause I'm pretty sure that's what we're planning on doing 'cause I am really enjoying the process. I don't want it to stop. I want to do this every day for the next 30 days. So, anyway, we'll talk more about that towards the end of this week. But if you guys are interested to extending this experience and going from here, here is me generating leads like know how to start selling products and building out for our sales funnels? That's what the new One Funnel Away challenge is gonna be. It's gonna be simplified from the old one. Every single day, we'll have a one pager or a homework assignment and it will be really fun and it'll be exciting. So that's happening later on this week. So I want to let you guys know about. Starting next week, Monday, we're gonna start the new One Funnel Away challenge. So, anyway, that's kind of what's happening. All right, with that said, I'm gonna jump into today. We've got so many fun things. How many, by the way... How many guys went and did the assignment yesterday and actually got your one pager account set up and created your very first one pager, your very first lead magnet, okay? We were watching the comments and the things that's been a little bit of chaos on our side. Obviously, one pager is a brand new product. Yes, you're the first people ever to use it. And I've already seen so many people creating one pagers, people finding a couple bugs which has been nice. Let us know. We're trying to get all the things fixed up. There's a lot of cool new features and this is coming out a bit. As of right now, it's pretty cool, right? And like all the one-pagers that I'm giving you guys, I built those myself. That was me and I'm not technical. I was able to build those, it took me a little while and I had so much fun with it. And so, like I said, literally today I'm gonna start working on the One Funnel Away one pagers 'cause I got all the one pagers for this we had done yesterday, actually. So, anyway, I hopefully enjoyed one pager. If not, if you haven't do this homework yet, make sure you go back to day number two, which is yesterday, watch the training, get the one pager and then go and create your one pager. That's how you're taking your framework we talked about and turn it into something tangible that you can trade somebody in exchange for their email address. Okay, and one pager is the coolest way I've ever found to do that. So that's exciting. Okay, so before I dive into today. This is me like... One my favorite things about my role in this whole game is I get to do cool marketing stuff and then I get to tell you guys what I'm doing because I feel like I'm the wizard of all of these. Like I do something amazing and I'm like, "Hey, come down we got it. Let me show you what we just did. Okay, so yesterday we talked a lot about frameworks. Now I want to... Again, I'm gonna open the curtain and show you guys kinda what's happening, right? When we plan out the five day lead challenge what did I do? I said, "Okay, what's the end result." The end result, we're trying to get somebody, right? Just to create a funnel with leads coming in. It's okay to do that. If I was to break down over five days of all the frameworks I have, that I've taught, that I know, that I understand. What are the frameworks that people need that they'll have success and be able to do that, right? And so day number one, I shared with you guys the overarching framework, right? Here's the big framework of how to generate leads online. Okay, that's how day number one was. Kind of a big broad overview of like this is how it works, right? And works through all the pieces. Like you have to have a lead magnet, then you got to have a squeeze page, then you got to have an email sequence and you have to drive traffic. And so day one was me sharing the framework of the entire week, right? And then, yesterday, if you guys noticed when I taught all ideas, I had three frameworks I taught you guys, did you catch this? Okay, I had three frameworks, okay? How many of you guys remember? The very first framework that I showed you guys was my framework. I'll go back here and show you this. Let me flip my whiteboard back over. Okay, the first framework I talked about with you guys was this one right here, right? I'm talking about who is your dream customer, what's the result you're trying to get for them and then what are the steps to that journey, right? Okay, so that was the framework I taught you guys. Now when I taught you guys, did you notice how I taught this? I didn't just say, okay, here's how the framework works, right? The way I taught it, is first off what I did as I told you the story about how I learned to earned it, right? And then I walked you through the overarching strategy. Here's the concept of how it works, okay? And then your homework assignment, the one pager gave you the tactics, right? And I shared a ton of case studies throughout thinking of like how has worked for me and for other people, right? That was the first framework I shared. Okay, second framework I shared, boom was called the ultra result. Right, what is the ultimate result, right? And what are the core results? And from there what are the splint results? And from there we're gonna it and create you one pager, okay? That was the second. The second framework I taught was the ultimate result, right? And then third framework I taught was what? Boom, my framework for how to teach frameworks. Okay, like that literally it. So there's behind the curtains. Yes, there's like, "Hey, what are the frameworks I need to teach them today from my bag of frameworks and my bag of tricks and things that I have that can help give them the tools they need to be successful with day number two." Okay, so day number three, same as I was planning out. Okay, day number three. We're talking about actually creating your lead funnel, right? You've got a lead magnet. Now you need a funnel, this is the mechanism. This is the tool. It's gonna give somebody to give you their email address in exchange for your lead magnet, right? So it's like what are the frameworks that they need today to for just to understand for them to make sense and then I'm going to go and give them the tool, right? And so there's two frameworks I'm gonna be teaching today. Okay, so, hopefully, have seeing this like I'm practicing what I'm preaching. I'm not just pointing on my head like this is... I'm showing you guys exactly what I'm doing and hopefully this has given you a model. Okay, I always tell people I feel like my main role here at ClickFunnels is to be like someone who's doing things so you guys can look at it and you can model it in your business, right? Like I don't need to keep doing live trainings. I don't need to keep like... I'm fine. Like financially, I'm good, I can take a break. I can take a year or two or six years off and be completely fine. Okay, I keep doing this because I love it. Number one, I love this game. It's so much fun. Number two, I'm trying to show you guys models so you can like, "Oh, I can see I can model that in my business. Oh, I can do what Russell did over here." I can do a five day challenge. What would be my frameworks, what would I teach people, right? I can create my own lead magnet. What would I create? Russell, show me three of his what could I do for a lead magnet, right? I'm trying to show you guys stuff so you can look at it, you can think through it and figure how to model that for your specific business as well. Okay, and that's like you play in the game. So I keep sharing and hope you guys don't mind. I'm gonna keep on talking until I can't talk anymore because I love this stuff. I love seeing the ahas that you guys have. Okay, I remember when I first got into this game at 18, 18, 19 years ago now, and I was a young kid. I was wrestling at Boise State University and I was learning about this stuff. This is before webinars. I remember back then people did tele-seminars. And so I would get the tele-seminar recording. I had this little tape recorder that I got at radio shack and I would go hook it from my phone system. I click record and tape these teleseminars onto cassette tapes, right? And then 'cause most of them that I was in school or different places I couldn't like listen to them live and I wanted to hear them over and over again. So I taped all these cassette tapes and then I'd go on wrestling trips and we'd be in these vans, and we have like 8, 10, 12 hour drives in these vans and I get these cassette tapes out of these teleseminars I've recorded of people teaching some of these concepts when I first learned them. I remember listening to the tape, listening in the car with my headphones on and everyone else in the car sleeping or listening to music. I'm listening to these guys talk about these marketing principles. I remember just feeling like so alive and so excited. I'm just like this is the most exciting thing in the world, okay? And for me like I've had a chance to discover these things. I remember how excited I was when I first learned, when I first applied them, they actually worked, I was freaking out. And so for me the closest thing I can get to that same excitement is coming to you and sharing with Mike. And I see your guys' eyes light up when you get that aha moment or what are those things are like, "Aha, for me, it's like me. I have a chance to relive it again through you guys." And so that's why I love doing this and I love sharing these things and, hopefully, you guys feel that coming through for me. Okay, do you notice by the way when I told you guys the story of my... The framework of how to use frameworks, how I started it. By the way yesterday, right? I told you my story about how I learned to earn it. I was on stage and I was casting my pearls before swine. I told that story before I gave you this framework, okay? The pattern is repeated over and over and over again. All right, so that said now we're going to jump into today, which, again, the goal today is for us to build out our very first funnel, okay? So I'm gonna talk about two core frameworks you have to understand and then I'm gonna let you guys go. Probably ti's gonna be a little earlier today. And I'm gonna give you one pager which is gonna give you assignment. It's gonna walk you through tactics and you actually gonna have a chance to build your funnel today. And I prebuilt six funnels for you guys this weekend and you can pick any of the six or download all of them. You're gonna have them and it's giving you the framework. I'm gonna be giving you a new software tool that Jim Edwards built for you guys. We're literally filling in some blanks, you click a button, and it creates all the copy for every single page here inside your lead funnel, which is insanely cool and a bunch of other really cool things. So that's what's happening. And then tomorrow we've got a special guest coming in. It's gonna to be... I'm excited to introduce her she's gonna be coming and will be talking about the emails you send out, okay? And so that'll be happening tomorrow and then on Friday we've no special guests. She's actually flying here from Texas. She sent me a picture of her at the airport and she's gonna teach you guys how to launch these funnels and start getting traffic coming in for free. So it's gonna be a... The rest of the week will really be fun and exciting, okay? But for right now we're gonna dive into building out your lead funnel. Now I'm curious how many guys here who are watching, you've had a chance to read any of my books? Specifically, The Dotcom Secrets book. So Dotcom Secrets book is the first book I wrote. The hardbound version, new updated hardbound version. If you have the soft bound it's good. This one is way better. I rewrote this from the ground up I added, I don't know, I added 40,000 or 50,000 new words to this. New frameworks, new things. It's awesome, but in this book this is the book that teaches the core fundamentals of funnel building. You don't have a copy yet, you can get a free copy at dotcomsecrets.com But this is... A lot of the things I'm comes from his books. If you want to go deeper into that, make sure you get a copy of the Dotcom Secrets book, okay? Okay, so one of the principles I talked about Dotcom Secrets book is this concept that I call the value ladder, okay? And some of you has heard me talk about this before but this... For you to be successful with funnels and lead funnels and all the stuff we're talking about you have to understand this core principle. It's something that's so simple where when you get it, it changes everything, okay? So if you look at this, I'm gonna draw two axis on this thing, okay? Over here, this is gonna be price and this is going to be value, okay? Now if you think about it as a business owner you want to provide the most amount of value possible for people to come into your world, right? And so I think about that and I'm like if somebody comes to me like, Russell, I read your books. This is really, really cool. I want you to... What's the best thing you can offer me. Like whatever it is I will give you. Whatever it takes, I want you to just to do this whole thing. What's the most value you can possibly offer me, the highest amount of value, right? So for me if I was to like provide you guys a home, the most amount of value it would be basically I would pay for you to fly out here to my house, we sit in a room for a week. I would figure out what your business is, your product and I would go and write the scripts for yourselves and I'd create your funnels, I'd drive traffic, I would do everything for you, right? I guess the most value I could offer, right? If I just did the whole thing for you. And if you think about it, right? The value would be insane. It'd be clear up here but the problem is because it takes so much time and effort for me and for my staff, my team, and my everything because the price would also be high as well, right? So this will be... This would be like the most value I could possibly be... This is your smiley face. This the most value I could possibly give to you, okay? Now, honestly, if I was to do something like that the reality because it's just how much time and effort it would take me to provide that much value this is something that I would probably have to sell for at least $1 million cash up front plus I would say 40% to 60% of the company depending on how much I'm actually running long-term, okay? But that's the most value I can possibly provide somebody, okay? Now it's funny to think about this if I was to walk up to you on the side of the street, the very first day I'm like, "Hey, my name is Russell Brunson and I would love to build a funnel for you." If you want to write me a check for $1 million plus give me 60% of your company, I will do this for you. How many guys would be like, "That's awesome, Russell, I'm going to do it." Right, how many guys will look at me and be like, "Russell, you look like you're 11 years old. You want $1 million to build a funnel? And then you want more than half of my business. It makes no sense," right? Okay, the reason is because I've provided no value at this point, you have no context. Like is that a good deal or a bad I don't even know, right? So traditionally in businesses we don't just go lead with our best thing because we haven't shown value to the people first, right? So instead what we do is we come down here at the bottom of the value ladder. We say, "Okay, what's something I can do that provides value that's not gonna cost a ton of money," right? I'm gonna do something right here. Okay, so for me and for you this is like a lead funnel, right? Give me your email address, I guess the price of the members. Give me your email address I'm gonna give you this lead magnet, okay? And you're gonna get it you'll get some value from that lead magnet, right? And they get that and they're like, "Oh my gosh this is really good." And what do we do as humans? We get value from something. What do we naturally want, okay? If we get value from something or from somebody we naturally want more. So people come here to get value. This is lovely, this is amazing. That's awesome, that's cool. The next thing it say, "Okay, how can we get more value?" Okay, and now you step them up your value ladder to the next thing. That's gonna be a little bit more expensive. Okay, the price goes up but the value goes up as well. Okay, the good case is like you buy one of my books. My books are free plus shipping, right? So it's $10 basically you get my book. The value is here but the price is low. You get that and you read the book like this is amazing, one more. Right, these are ClickFunnel and then you come to our events and like naturally start sending up, okay? And so that happens here. If somebody gets value here they go to the next year. Boom to the next year until eventually this is not that expensive. Okay, I guarantee if I send an email to my list and say, "Hey, I'm going to be building out five people's funnels. It's $1 million down and I want 50% of your business. I guarantee I get five people within 24 hours." Okay, because there's people who've gone through this process with me who understand the value of what I bring to the table and that'd be a no brainer, okay? 'Cause they've been through this before. Okay, you think about this. This is true in like all aspects of life. Think about your significant other, the first time you met them, right? Okay, if you came to... Let's say you're gonna go on a date with a girl and you're like, "Hey, you are cute. The most value I can have you. I want to get married, we're gonna have a bunch of kids and then grandkids and it's gonna be amazing, right? If you said that to a girl or to a dude or whatever, they'd be like you're crazy. Like this person is nuts, right? And they're gonna freak out. So that's not how you go approach somebody if you want to date them or whatever, right? You start down here and you say, "Hey, do you want to go on a date?" Like, "Okay, how's that work?" We can go to dinner and a movie, right? The price isn't that high, the value is not that big a deal until you go on a date and then what happens. If the day goes good and the person sees value, like this was a great date. Now, I want more and you say, "Hey, do you want to go on a second date." And they're like, "Yeah." Okay, do you want to go another date and eventually there's a time when you come and say, "Hey, do you want to get married? I want to have kids with you and have a family and have grandkids someday." Well, all of a sudden that question is not this thing that freaks me out. It's like, "Yes, of course, you've given me value every single step in this relationship. I want to continue that forever, okay? So it works in relationships, it works in business, it works everywhere. And so this is what we have to understand. This is what I call the value ladder, okay? And so this is what we're doing here inside the five-day lead challenge. We're introducing people into our world here at the bottom of the value ladder. Okay, we're giving them something where the cost is their email address. It's not expensive. Give me an email, I'm gonna give you this thing. And if they get that first framework they get that first one page, they get that first lead magnet and they go through it and they're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing. I want more, I want to on a second date." Okay, I want to go to the next step. I want to take the next level. I want to do the next thing with you. Now, also you build this relationship and people come over and over and over. Okay, when I first launched my books and I started giving things away for free it changed my entire business, right? I was doing a lot of stuff before but I gave people this thing that read it they got value and they wanted to go the next thing, the next to the next thing and now we have clients that pay us $50,000, $100,000 a year and beyond because the value we provided at every single step. Okay, so that's what our goal is. Now a couple of things. If you read the Dotcom Secrets book I share like each tier in the value ladder there's different types of funnels associated with them, right? So this bottom tier right here, we call this lead funnels. I think there's three or four that I share in the book. But the one that we're gonna be going through today is the most basic, the most simple, and it's a two-step lead funnel. Okay, lead squeeze funnel, okay? So that's the first one. I list here in the value ladder. Typically we use what I call unboxing funnels. My handwriting's horrible but there's an unboxing funnels, okay? And earlier I told you guys about the One Funnel Away challenge, the One Funnel Away challenge, actually, we spend all the time at this tier in the value ladder. Okay, the sales funnel we build out is a type of unboxing funnel and that's what we do during the One Funnel Away challenge, okay? The next tier up from here is what we call presentation funnels. Presentation funnels. This is where we're selling a little more expensive things. This is doing it like a webinar or doing a product launch funnel, things like that. So there's different types of funnels to sell a higher ticket stuff. In the top tier, this we're selling really expensive stuff. There are different high ticket funnels that we use as well, okay? And so, again, each tier of the value ladder there's different types of funnels we use, okay? But for this training for the five day lead challenge we're spending all of our time focused at this tier of the value ladder, generating leads. Okay, and again, there's a couple types of funnels that we build but the most basic, the most simple one is just the two-step lead funnel, okay? So that's what I'll going to be creating today, okay? This is something that is not complicated, it's not hard, it's not frustrating. You literally can create this today and be done. If you create your lead magnet and your one pager yesterday you've got everything you need to have your funnel completely done, completely finished, and ready to rock and roll, okay? So that's what we're gonna be doing today for your homework assignment is actually building it out inside of ClickFunnels, which is going to be so much fun. I made a whole video showing you the process and walking you through, okay? So, again, that's the first framework I want to teach you guys was the value ladder. Okay, so I'll write value here so you can remember. Here's the value ladder, okay? And, again, if you want to go deep and just get more examples and case studies, Dotcom Secrets book, I share a bunch of different ones, okay? So that's the value ladder. Okay, so now I want to go here. We're gonna talk about this right here. We're gonna talking about the lead funnel. So on day one I kind of told you guys a little bit about the double your dating funnel that I found when I was first getting started. When I was first trying to build a list, right? Where Eben Pagan had the kiss test. It had never been shown yet he was like, "Step one, give your email address I'm going to teach you the kiss test." And then on page two he gave you the kiss test. That was the lead magnet, right? And so prior to that, before like that was one of the first we call it a squeeze page and I will explain why here in a bit. It was the very first squeeze pages I'd ever seen. Now, prior to that, I had learned about list-building and the way that people built lists back then was different, okay? Again, I've been online doing this now for over 18 years which is crazy. So back when I got started in this the game was different, right? It was way harder. This is before Facebook ads, before YouTube, before MySpace, right? When I got started MySpace wasn't a thing yet. In fact, you guys remember what the social network was pre MySpace. Okay, the OGs remember this. It was called Friendster. And we were trying to figure out how to use Friendster to build a lists. But back then it was a little differently. So this is what the internet looked like back then. People would have a website, okay? There's a website here and this is what my doodle of a website looks like, okay? All right, so here's the website. And if you remember this you would go to somebody's website, right? You go to Google or you go to Yahoo or Ask Jeeves or whatever it was back in the day and you go somewhere and shop this website and then what would happen? Do you guys remember this? I'll give you a hit. It was like the most annoying thing on the planet. Okay, you shop this website and like this is awesome. I'm reading a scene and all of a sudden a certain a thing would pop up and they call it what? A pop-up. This pop-up would come up and be like, "Aha." Most of times is like, "Congratulations you won. You're the 1 million visitor to our website, put your email address down below to get a 30% discount." Guys, did ever see these? And so it was like the thing, like put your email address in and click submit and you win. So that was kind of what these popups were, okay? And the people that I knew that I was learning from initially this is how they're making their money. This is how they're building the list. They would go and they would do pop-ups. So you drive traffic your site and they'd get a pop-up, okay. And then people put the email address and they started building a list, okay? It was interesting and then what started happening, I love the history of this. Then, remember, for me, I was like why don't have a website with a bunch of traffic to it? Like how do I... I don't want popups. And so these pop-up advertising networks we could go in and say, "Okay, here's my pop-up." I want it to show up on 1,000 sites or one million sites or whatever you put in how many impressions you wanted. So then somebody would go to random site and because I paid for my pop-up would pop up and it would a pop up like, "Hey, congratulations, thanks for coming to the website put your email address down below for this free report, for this free lead magnet," right? And so while that's what I was doing it was awesome. I was going... I was paying these networks. I was paying money to have my pop-up show up on all these websites around the internet and I started building lists and I was like, "This is so cool." But then what happened, okay? It started getting more annoying 'cause what would happen is that these advertisers would be like, "Well, if I can sell one pop-up for like 30 cents what if I sold three or 10 or 12?" How many of you members you go to website and seen by pop up, pop up, pop up like four or five popups pop up you're like, "What's happening to my computer, I'm just freaking out," right? Internet Explorer is crashing this a whole nightmare, right? And so it got more and more annoying to the point where like Internet Explorer and the browsers we're like, "This is done. Let's just block all popups." And instantly overnight they create these things, called pop-up blockers. They would block all these pop-ups and boom they're gone. Now for those who... Most of you guys were probably in the spot at a time in your life. Like thank heavens the pop-ups are gone but on the other side the marketers like me who were building huge lists of millions of people off these popups start freaking out like our lead source is gone. It just dried up, it disappeared overnight, right? And they're freaking out and we're freaking out like, "What do we do?" Okay, well, all you thought it was the end of the internet as we know it, right? And then there were some really smart people and I don't know who it was initially but someone said, what if we take this model, someone comes to the website and this thing pops up and we get their email address. What if we flip it around? And be like what are you talking about? It's like what if we did this? What if the first thing people see, instead is this page that says, hey, here's the free report, you put in your name and your email address, right? And then they click submit and then it takes them to the actual website, right? That was the premise. And so instead of driving people to the website and having a pop-up we would drive them directly to the pop-up. And I remember people, like this was the debate in all the marketing forums back and they're like, "No, you can't do that." You're an idiot because nobody is actually gonna see your website. And you'd be like, "Yeah, but then I can't get emails. I can't follow up with people and no one is buying. I have to follow up a bunch of times before they're willing to buy and dah, dah, dah, all sorts of stuff like that. And so this was the controversy, okay? And about those time is when a couple people started testing it. One of them was Eben Pagan, okay, the guy who own Double Your Dating. This is where he said, "Okay, let me try this." Boom, give me your email address I'm gonna give you the free kiss test. People put email in, come over here, learn the kiss test, got value and then the bottom of page sold them his ebook. Boom blew up in $20 million business, okay? Then other people started doing, other people start doing and I was like, "Oh my gosh, this actually works." Okay, don't think about the metrics on this, but what happened? Let's say you had 100, actually, let's go this way. Okay, let's say over here let's say you had 100 visitors come to your website, right? 100 visitors come, so a hundred times this pop came up, maybe you got like 20% of the people to put their email address in here, right? See 100% of people saw your website and only 20% joined your list, okay? And then you flip it over here, what would happen is you send those same 100 people to come over here and from here you get anywhere from who knows, let's 20% I guess. So 20% of people give you the email address, right? Then only 20% of people actually ever see your site and see, like, this is not going to work because you got one fifth as much traffic actually sees your site. But what they didn't realize is and this is what made the whole thing work is that these 20% people then gave you their email address, right? Now you have the email address and you can go out here and you can send an email. Okay, so like again 20% will see that. And you send the email to 20% and you remind them about the thing and you send another email and you remind them. And you send another email and you can send three or four emails push people back to this thing and you can follow up with them. And they found at the time, I don't know if the numbers are the same or not but at the time it took someone on average seven times seeing your website before they were willing to buy. So what was happening in the past is you drive, pay for that as soon as come here, pay for them and after seven times of seeing then they buy. We're now happy to pay for them once. They joined your list and you send an email one, two, three, four, and by email seven a huge percentage had bought the thing. But now you have them on your list, right? Now you have them on your list, now what you do with that list, okay? Well, yeah, you have them on your list now you come back to your value. Okay, they're on my list now, you send five, six emails someone bought my very first product. What's the next thing I sell. Oh, I can sell this, oh, I can sell this and all of a sudden they had the ability to now generate their own traffic. They have their own leads. They own traffic now. They didn't always have to go to Facebook or Google or YouTube to buy new leads, right? They own the list. They can say I want to send the list over there and send and they send and boom the list shows up there. I'm going to send over here, boom, and they can just send it to different places, okay? Where is this idea for five day lead challenge of two or three weeks ago. I was like, "I'm going to do this thing, we're gonna put up a squeeze page, right? It's okay opt in to this page. I sent emails to my list and 35,000 of you came and opted in. I didn't pay Zuckerberg for that list, I didn't have to pay. That came because I own that traffic, right? I control, I can send it to different places, okay? And so it changed the dynamics of people's businesses, all right? So you come back here. Yeah, maybe only 20% people give you email address but now it's what I'm saying you follow up, you close a higher percentage and when all is said and done at the end of the day you actually end up making more money, okay? And that was the power. Now the cool thing of the internet. Internet is actually getting cooler since back in the day 'cause now you can have these things called retargeting ads where I can go deep into this but you see this before you can put a retargeting pixel on this page. So someone comes and 20% give you their email address but then 80% leave. So 80% of people leave, right? Like, oh, they're gone. But Facebook and YouTube and Google will allow you follow those people around and keep pushing them back and keep pushing them back till you get a higher percentage of people that can actually come and put their email address in, okay? That's outside of the context we're talking about now but it's pretty cool because retargeting has given the ability to the people who bounce and leave to keep getting them and keep coming back and you push them into your funnels, okay? So that is what a lead squeeze is. We called this a squeeze page because traffic is coming in. You're squeezing their email address out and then you're giving them value. And if they receive value at this step in the tier, right from your lead magnet this is amazing, I want more then they naturally want to ascend up the value ladder, okay? People that came into Double Your Dating, they came for the kiss test, they read this kiss test and like this is amazing, they read down and like what else does this person have? I want more value. I want to go on second date with them, right? And at the end of the end of the kiss test, right? What would I have on offer? And he said, "Okay, well you got the kiss test. I've got this ebook called Double Your Dating for $97. Do you want to buy the ebook?" And they're like, "Heck, yeah." They bought the ebook, boom, right? And people read the ebook like this is amazing, a bunch of cool stuff that happens like cool stuff in the ebook, guess what? I've got a live event where we teach men how to do this in life. Okay, the live is x amount of dollars and can people come to the event. Not everyone, okay, but a big percentage of people who got value of this step want the next step. And the live event is like, "Oh, by the way he's mentioning coaching programs." Boom, push you to the next step. Okay, and that's how this game is played, okay? Now for you all you guys are going to think about it a little differently. What does your business look like? Like what's my value ladder. Like y'all have to kind of figure out what's gonna be 'cause everyone's different, right? I remember when my wife and I first got married I had not had dental insurance for probably five or six years. I got married. My parents cut me off like, "You're an adult now, good luck." So I had no dental insurance, I couldn't afford it. Fast forward like six years later my business is running, I have a couple of employees. My employees come to me and they're like, "Hey, Russell, since I worked for you, can I get benefits?" And I put it in context. I'd never actually had a job before. I was wrestling so I never had a job. So I had a couple of employees and they're like, "Russell, we're gonna have benefits?" I'm like, "What does that mean?" "Like benefits where you pay for stuff for us." So I'm like, "I pay your salary." Like, "No, no like dental insurance and health insurance." And I was like, "Is this is really thing." I'd never heard that before, right? And, yeah, it really is. I'm like, "Okay." So I went and we figured out how to get benefits for our employees and we got dental insurance, right? And so I'm like, "Sweetheart, I haven't seen a dentist in six years, I should go to dentists." And about that time I get in the mail a lead magnet. I got the thing in the mail is a yellow postcard and said, "Hey, there's a new... We're a new dentist in town. If you want you can come into to our office and get a free teeth cleaning." And my wife and I are like, "Sweet we haven't cleaned our teeth in six years outside of her own brushing let's go." Boom, there's a lead magnet, right? Okay, so we call the dentist like, "Hey, we got this big old yellow postcard in the mail and you got a teeth clean?" He's like, "Sure, it's free come on in." So we come on in, right? Boom, I get the lead magnet. The dentist or the hygienist and they're all working on my teeth, cleaning my teeth are providing what? Providing value and like getting my teeth cleaned and do all sorts of stuff. And the dentist comes afterwards looking to like, "Cool your teeth are clean." I just had a question for you like, "Are you a smoker? Do you drink coffee or something?" And I was like, "What?" No, I'm not a smoker. No, I don't drink coffee either." I'm like, "Why would you ask?" And he says, "Oh, well, your teeth are kind of... Just like kind of yellow. I don't know if you noticed because I turned my yellow I assume, maybe you drink coffee or smoke or something." I'm like, "No, I don't do any of that stuff." He's like, "Oh, well, if you want," he is like I can provide you more value. He didn't say that but I can give you a teeth whitening kit where you start whitening your teeth at home that way it goes from yellow back to white. I was like, "Are you kidding me? Yes, please do that." He's like, "Cool let me you a fitting for some teeth whitening kit." He fits my teeth whitening kit I was like, "Thank you so much." And so I get that, right? So he provided more value and I had to pay for that, right? And then while he's doing more stuff he's like, "By the way did you used to have braces when you were young?" I was like, "Yeah, why?" He's like, "Oh, I can tell because your teeth are recrowding and a lot has happened with your braces off over years so your teeth are kind of recrowding. I'm like, "Are you serious?" He's like, "Yeah, they don't look bad but they are definitely like shifting around." And I was like, "Are you kidding me? Well, I don't want crooked teeth, what do I do?" And he's like, "Well, if you want we can build a retainer for you which help keep your teeth in place or we can do invisalign which will help realign." And I was like, "Yes, please," right? And so he did what? He provided more value to me, right? And so he's going through this so by the time he was done I got done with this experience of the dentist, I leave and I write them a check for $2,000 or $3,000. Now am I angry about the experience? No. Why? He brought me in to this thing for free. I got value, I'm like, "This is amazing. I got a free teeth clean, it's amazing." He's like, "Hey, I can provide more value. I can make your teeth whiter." I'm like, "Sweet make them white." He's like, "I can add more value, I keep your teeth straight." I'm like, "Sweet," right? And he could have offered cosmetic dentistry, whatever the thing was, right? But he had his own value ladder. That's how he made money off of me. And then the next day my wife came in she got her teeth cleaned and she left there $2,000 or $3,000 check in the process worked, right? Every business has a value out of it. If you don't have a value ladder yet, you're probably not in a very good business, okay? Your job is if you're like, "What's the process?" Why are you taking people through, okay? Now, again, that's kind of outside the context of the five day challenge 'cause our goal in five day challenge is this, how do we dominate this? How do we get so much value and people are like, "This is amazing, this one page of this framework." It's changed my life. This is awesome. I got this thing, I want more. Okay, like I said in the One Funnel Away challenge, we're starting on Monday we're going to go deep into this. Right, how do you create this sales funnel? So after they receive value, they're already getting... They like have a hole burning of pocket. I want to give you money. Like, "What's the next step?" You can be like, "Oh, here's the next step?" And pushing the next funnel. I wish I could spend like eight hours a day going deep into that but that's what the One Funnel Away challenge is. We're starting on Monday live just like this. So, anyway, does that make sense? So those are the two frameworks I share with yesterday. Okay, the value ladder and the understanding of very basic, very simple two-step lead funnel, okay? One of the most basic types of funnels to generate leads, okay? All right, so I'm gonna show you guys what the game plan is. Now that you have your lead magnet, today's assignment is we're gonna be building out the most basic, most simple funnels. The two-step funnel, okay? On this page in the funnel you are gonna give people your actual lead magnet, okay? The thing you created yesterday you're gonna give it to them. Then come here there is gonna be a big button that says download and they're gonna download your one pager, right? You're gonna tell them thank you. We call this a thank you page. Okay, 'cause it says thank you. Thank you so much for giving me your email address here's where you can download the lead magnet I just promised you. Okay, this is a thank you page. Okay, this page right here is what we call a squeeze page. Okay, squeeze pages are very simple. They're very basic. The most easiest page in the world came. Okay, most of my squeeze pages take me less than five minutes to build. Okay, I built six of them for you that I'm giving you on the one pager. You have a chance to see them in a minute. Okay, basically what a squeeze page is, there's typically a headline, maybe a sub headline, a picture of your one pager and the spot for them to put in their email and click submit. That's it. One of the most simple things in the world. And sometimes like Facebook they want you to have longer pages, okay? If you do just add some more bullet points down below with more context of what they're gonna learn about in your one pager. That's your squeeze page, squeeze page, thank you page. Two pages, most simple funnel on the planet. You can literally create it in five to 10 minutes, okay? And so that's what we're gonna be creating today. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Now, a couple of things, okay? The tool that creates these funnels. If you know me at all, if you've listened to me, anything I've said in the last six years you've probably heard of ClickFunnels. Okay, ClickFunnels is my company. It's the tool that builds funnels. We have over 120,000 active members who use it, okay? A lot of you guys who are here already have ClickFunnels accounts. If you don't yet I'm gonna give you guys a 14 day trial to use it today so you can build out this funnel so you can have your very first lead squeeze funnel, okay? That's number one. Number two, one of my business partners, Jim Edwards, creates some really cool software that we can give you for free today as well. And then when go in here you're gonna take information about who is your dream customer, right? We talked about your dream customer yesterday. Who's your dream customer. He's asked you a whole bunch of questions about that. And then who is my dream customer, what do they care about and you fill out this form. When you fill out the form then there's two or three forms you're gonna fill out, you're filling about your dream customer about things like that. And then you click a button and what it's going to do is it's actually gonna write all these things. It's gonna to write the headlines, it gonna can write the sub headlines, correct? All these different bullet points. It's gonna write the copy that goes right here. It's gonna write all that stuff for you. You fill out the form and you click submit and writes it all for you then you literally just copy it and paste it. Copy, paste, copy, paste, copy, paste and now you've got a funnel that's set up and ready to convert people and they show up. Okay, this is called copy. The words on the page is called copy. Copy is something that gets people to do something you're gonna to do. And you can guess and try to write good copy but the software has been built for you is gonna make this copy super easy deal, it's high converting. It took the best headlines from all time. Like over the last like 100 years from the best highest converting headlines and reverse engineer in the software. So you tell them your product it'll pop out like here's a hundred headlines based on the highest converting headlines in the history of the world. And you take those and say, "Oh, this will actually go to my landing page and you can tweak it around, you can change them but it's powerful, okay? You don't have to guess and think like what's gonna work. Like the software is gonna write a copy that's gonna work for you out the gate. And we're giving that to you for free for being here. So that's a gift we wanted to give you guys 'cause it's gonna make this process simpler, okay? And so today's assignment, like I said, if yesterday if you did your assignment it means you already have, oops, you already have the lead magnet done. So today we're gonna build the two pages, we're gonna put the plug the copy in, we're gonna plug the lead magnet on the download button and then you're gonna be finished, okay? It shouldn't take that long. If it's your first time on ClickFunnels it might take you a little bit of time but there's a video of me walking through every single step of the process and it's not gonna be hard. Okay, tomorrow what we're gonna be doing is, after somebody gives you their email address, right? Now we have these emails that go out, right? The question is what do we say on these emails, okay? There's actually six emails we sent out initially, okay? Six emails to build relationship people and get them to buy to your next thing in your value ladder. Okay, so tomorrow I have a special guest, Jada Golden, who's gonna be coming and talking about what to send in those six emails. We also built software for you where you fill in the form, you click the button and it'll pre-write these six emails for you and then you plug those into ClickFunnels. That's happening tomorrow. It's gonna be really, really cool but for today this what we're doing on these two pages, okay? All right, I'm gonna have my team pull the one pager. So on my screen here this is the one pager I'm gonna give you guys today. We love one pages, they're the most exciting thing in the world. Number one you notice the very top it here it says... Scroll back up to the very top. It says your next challenge is you choose except to start sitting one phone, wait 30 day challenge. If you want to join the live challenge that starts Monday, okay, this is the 30 day challenge. We're gonna go through and build out your actual sales funnel. The second tier in the value ladder, click on that button and sign up. It is not... The 5 Day Challenge has been free, the One Funnel Away challenge is $100, okay? So if you want to go the next step with me, if you receive value here so far and like I want to go next to your Russell's value ladder to figure out how to build out my next and my value ladder click on that link and join the challenge. Okay, you don't have to but that's there if you're looking for it, okay? This video right here now, this is a 32 minute video of me teaching and showing the actual tactics. Okay, this is me literally going to ClickFunnels and doing it and then going to Jim's software and doing it. So you'll see me at my house hanging out with you doing your assignments. You have like, "How does work, I'm confused" Watch the video, I do the assignment with you. Just pause it copy me, play, pause, play, pause, and just do it with me, okay? As scroll down here and see what the landing page looks like we're gonna be building here. Here you get your ClickFunnels 14 day trial. Here's where you get the funnel scripts light tool that's going to write all the copy for you. And then these are six different templates I built out for you, okay? So there's six landing page templates that are amazing. This first right here, this is the landing page template. It has been the highest converting one for me. I will show you in the video but literally that template there over the last year has got me over 250,000 leads and I gave you that one as well. A bunch of other really cool ones are there so you can pick one of those six templates you want to use. You click on the button it copies into your ClickFunnels account and you can edit it. Okay, so there were three quick little video of me and Jim, you click on that video, it'll take you to a page. It gives you the software, it shows you how to use it. You're gonna fill in that software, click in the blanks, click submit and write all the copy for you, okay? Let's go back to the one pager. Oh, we just lost it. So, again, the software you filled out it'll write it all the copy and we can get back to the one pager here hopefully. He calls the back buttons. We can it get back. There we go. Oh, open a new window there you go. Okay, then you take the copy from Jim's software, you can plug it into the ClickFunnels page and then just go through. Basically, you go through the to-do list. After you finished the do list everything would be done. Oh, September 3rd, other cool thing is, remember I told you here typically I have a picture of my ecover for the thing that the lead magnet they're getting. Okay, if you want inside a one page is actually a really cool tool that will build you out. and actually ecover. You fill in some blanks, click the buttons and boom it creates an ecover that you can then put on your squeeze page here or else I give you two other resources of places you can get your covers design. Okay, I'm not a designer. I don't know how to design things so you can either create it for free inside of one pager or you can use some of the other resources like one is called Funnel Rolodex. Funnel Rolodex is a marketplace of funnel builders and designers who can design these things for you. Okay, if you're like I don't want to do a funnel, Russell, I'm scared to death you go to funnel Rolodex and there's, again, programmers designers you can hire to build your funnels for you. There's always people can do the ecover for you there as well. Okay, there's other resources as well but all of the stuff's on the one pager. This is our gifts use of scroll, go back to the top and getting rid of... Get the one pager. The first thing is, watch this video. It's gonna show the assignment and then go through the assignment. By the time you're done you'll have your lead funnel done and ready to rock and roll, okay? These two pieces will be done and you'll be prepared for tomorrow 'cause tomorrow we're going to be building out the email sequence plugging it in. And when that's done, then Friday we're gonna be dumping tons of traffic into this thing and your first set of leads will be coming through and it's gonna be fun. So with that said my team is gonna put the link down below. This link it say one pager, okay? Get in fivedayleadchallenge.com/clickfunnels. That is going to take you directly. It'll automatically take you this page save the page and now you have it inside your one pager your account and you can go to the homework assignment and all the other things involved. That's like fun you guys. I'm having so much fun of these. I hope you guys are enjoying today's training and all of these trainings so far. I'm super grateful. First off to have the platform be able to share this with you guys. Like I said, it means the world to me watching you guys have the aha moments like for the very first time. I still remember experiencing a lot of these ahas myself and I love giving them to you. It's hopefully, as my aha moments and now it's just doing the actual work and works that hard luckily. Okay, we started the most simple funnel a two-step funnel. It's very simple, it's very easy. I give you templates, we give you software and we will will write copy. We give you software to build out the ecovers, all the things you need. Again, it's all on one pager down below. So go to fivedayleadchallenge.com/clickfunnels. It'll take you to this one pager, save in your account, watch the video, do the assignment, and then we'll be meeting back here tomorrow. Same time, same place. And then your email sequences is written out and plugged in and we're one step closer to the finish line. So that's it, guys. Thanks, again, so much. Get the one pager down below and I will see you guys tomorrow. 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What's up, everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, we're going day into number three of the Five Day Lead Challenge. Hopefully, you've enjoyed the last two episodes. If you haven't listened to those yet, make sure you get them all in order, because they all build upon each other. But this is day number three. And today we're talked about creating your lead funnel, right? Day number one we talked about the strategy of generating leads online day. Number two, we built out your lead magnet and now on number three, we're going to start building your lead funnel. This is the most basic, most simple and one of the most powerful types of funnels you can create.

So we'll be talking about that during today's episode. Once again, this is from a video event that we did, and so if you want to see the videos and see the screenshots and get the one pager homework and all that stuff, you can get those for free at fivedayleadchallenge.com. So that said, I hope you enjoy this episode on creating your lead funnel.

Welcome to day number three of the five day lead challenge. Have you guys been enjoying this process so far? I'm actually really curious. This is the first time we've ever done training like this where we go live every single day. A whiteboard out with strategy. We give you the tactics. We give you the one pager, and you go do the homework assignment. I'm curious and I'd love to know the comments. I'll read these afterwards, but let me know in the comments if you guys are enjoying this process. I think it's a fun, cool, new way to train. So if you do like it let me know. If you're getting a lot of value out also I'd love to be able to see it. Let me know in the comments down below. One really cool thing that I'm excited about that I'm kind of let guys know and then we'll jump into the training. As we were planing this I was having so much fun with it.

A lot of you guys know we do a training called One Funnel Away. How many guys I've ever heard of the One Funnel Away challenge or been part of the One Funnel Away challenge? Okay, so we launched the One Funnel Away challenge, man, about two years ago now. And in the last two years over 70,000 people have gone through which is crazy. So thank you. I hope you had a chance to go through and you enjoyed it. But it's been two years and I love teaching. I get excited and like, I don't know about you. Every time I talk about something, I get off stage. I'm like, "Oh, I want to do it again. I can change this. I can tweak this. I can make it better."

And I really decided after OFS like I want to do it again. And I'm really enjoying this process and so I talked to my team. I was like, "What if we did OFA again, but this time do it live?" And do it live over 30 days where we do the same process. So I come up here, I talked to you guys for 30 minutes or so, give you a one-pager, and give you a homework assignment and go every single day over 30 days and the end of it we do the next year, right? This whole five day lead challenge is all about getting your first lead funnel, getting leads coming in. The One Funnel Away challenge is about creating it for sales funnel. We're actually selling products and making money. So my question to you is if we were to do that, if we were to go and do One Funnel Away live starting Monday, how many has to be interested in being part of that? If so write in the comments down below 'cause I'm pretty sure that's what we're planning on doing 'cause I am really enjoying the process. I don't want it to stop. I want to do this every day for the next 30 days.

So, anyway, we'll talk more about that towards the end of this week. But if you guys are interested to extending this experience and going from here, here is me generating leads like know how to start selling products and building out for our sales funnels? That's what the new One Funnel Away challenge is gonna be. It's gonna be simplified from the old one. Every single day, we'll have a one pager or a homework assignment and it will be really fun and it'll be exciting. So that's happening later on this week. So I want to let you guys know about. Starting next week, Monday, we're gonna start the new One Funnel Away challenge. So, anyway, that's kind of what's happening.

All right, with that said, I'm gonna jump into today. We've got so many fun things. How many, by the way... How many guys went and did the assignment yesterday and actually got your one pager account set up and created your very first one pager, your very first lead magnet, okay? We were watching the comments and the things that's been a little bit of chaos on our side. Obviously, one pager is a brand new product. Yes, you're the first people ever to use it. And I've already seen so many people creating one pagers, people finding a couple bugs which has been nice. Let us know. We're trying to get all the things fixed up. There's a lot of cool new features and this is coming out a bit. As of right now, it's pretty cool, right? And like all the one-pagers that I'm giving you guys, I built those myself. That was me and I'm not technical. I was able to build those, it took me a little while and I had so much fun with it.

And so, like I said, literally today I'm gonna start working on the One Funnel Away one pagers 'cause I got all the one pagers for this we had done yesterday, actually. So, anyway, I hopefully enjoyed one pager. If not, if you haven't do this homework yet, make sure you go back to day number two, which is yesterday, watch the training, get the one pager and then go and create your one pager. That's how you're taking your framework we talked about and turn it into something tangible that you can trade somebody in exchange for their email address.

Okay, and one pager is the coolest way I've ever found to do that. So that's exciting. Okay, so before I dive into today. This is me like... One my favorite things about my role in this whole game is I get to do cool marketing stuff and then I get to tell you guys what I'm doing because I feel like I'm the wizard of all of these. Like I do something amazing and I'm like, "Hey, come down we got it. Let me show you what we just did. Okay, so yesterday we talked a lot about frameworks. Now I want to... Again, I'm gonna open the curtain and show you guys kinda what's happening, right? When we plan out the five day lead challenge what did I do? I said, "Okay, what's the end result." The end result, we're trying to get somebody, right? Just to create a funnel with leads coming in. It's okay to do that. If I was to break down over five days of all the frameworks I have, that I've taught, that I know, that I understand.

What are the frameworks that people need that they'll have success and be able to do that, right? And so day number one, I shared with you guys the overarching framework, right? Here's the big framework of how to generate leads online. Okay, that's how day number one was. Kind of a big broad overview of like this is how it works, right? And works through all the pieces. Like you have to have a lead magnet, then you got to have a squeeze page, then you got to have an email sequence and you have to drive traffic. And so day one was me sharing the framework of the entire week, right? And then, yesterday, if you guys noticed when I taught all ideas, I had three frameworks I taught you guys, did you catch this? Okay, I had three frameworks, okay? How many of you guys remember? The very first framework that I showed you guys was my framework. I'll go back here and show you this. Let me flip my whiteboard back over.

Okay, the first framework I talked about with you guys was this one right here, right? I'm talking about who is your dream customer, what's the result you're trying to get for them and then what are the steps to that journey, right? Okay, so that was the framework I taught you guys. Now when I taught you guys, did you notice how I taught this? I didn't just say, okay, here's how the framework works, right? The way I taught it, is first off what I did as I told you the story about how I learned to earned it, right? And then I walked you through the overarching strategy. Here's the concept of how it works, okay? And then your homework assignment, the one pager gave you the tactics, right? And I shared a ton of case studies throughout thinking of like how has worked for me and for other people, right? That was the first framework I shared.

Okay, second framework I shared, boom was called the ultra result. Right, what is the ultimate result, right? And what are the core results? And from there what are the splint results? And from there we're gonna it and create you one pager, okay? That was the second. The second framework I taught was the ultimate result, right? And then third framework I taught was what? Boom, my framework for how to teach frameworks. Okay, like that literally it. So there's behind the curtains. Yes, there's like, "Hey, what are the frameworks I need to teach them today from my bag of frameworks and my bag of tricks and things that I have that can help give them the tools they need to be successful with day number two."

Okay, so day number three, same as I was planning out. Okay, day number three. We're talking about actually creating your lead funnel, right? You've got a lead magnet. Now you need a funnel, this is the mechanism. This is the tool. It's gonna give somebody to give you their email address in exchange for your lead magnet, right? So it's like what are the frameworks that they need today to for just to understand for them to make sense and then I'm going to go and give them the tool, right? And so there's two frameworks I'm gonna be teaching today. Okay, so, hopefully, have seeing this like I'm practicing what I'm preaching. I'm not just pointing on my head like this is... I'm showing you guys exactly what I'm doing and hopefully this has given you a model.

Okay, I always tell people I feel like my main role here at ClickFunnels is to be like someone who's doing things so you guys can look at it and you can model it in your business, right? Like I don't need to keep doing live trainings. I don't need to keep like... I'm fine. Like financially, I'm good, I can take a break. I can take a year or two or six years off and be completely fine. Okay, I keep doing this because I love it. Number one, I love this game. It's so much fun. Number two, I'm trying to show you guys models so you can like, "Oh, I can see I can model that in my business. Oh, I can do what Russell did over here." I can do a five day challenge. What would be my frameworks, what would I teach people, right? I can create my own lead magnet. What would I create? Russell, show me three of his what could I do for a lead magnet, right? I'm trying to show you guys stuff so you can look at it, you can think through it and figure how to model that for your specific business as well.

Okay, and that's like you play in the game. So I keep sharing and hope you guys don't mind. I'm gonna keep on talking until I can't talk anymore because I love this stuff. I love seeing the ahas that you guys have. Okay, I remember when I first got into this game at 18, 18, 19 years ago now, and I was a young kid. I was wrestling at Boise State University and I was learning about this stuff. This is before webinars. I remember back then people did tele-seminars. And so I would get the tele-seminar recording. I had this little tape recorder that I got at radio shack and I would go hook it from my phone system. I click record and tape these teleseminars onto cassette tapes, right? And then 'cause most of them that I was in school or different places I couldn't like listen to them live and I wanted to hear them over and over again. So I taped all these cassette tapes and then I'd go on wrestling trips and we'd be in these vans, and we have like 8, 10, 12 hour drives in these vans and I get these cassette tapes out of these teleseminars I've recorded of people teaching some of these concepts when I first learned them.

I remember listening to the tape, listening in the car with my headphones on and everyone else in the car sleeping or listening to music. I'm listening to these guys talk about these marketing principles. I remember just feeling like so alive and so excited. I'm just like this is the most exciting thing in the world, okay? And for me like I've had a chance to discover these things. I remember how excited I was when I first learned, when I first applied them, they actually worked, I was freaking out. And so for me the closest thing I can get to that same excitement is coming to you and sharing with Mike. And I see your guys' eyes light up when you get that aha moment or what are those things are like, "Aha, for me, it's like me. I have a chance to relive it again through you guys." And so that's why I love doing this and I love sharing these things and, hopefully, you guys feel that coming through for me.

Okay, do you notice by the way when I told you guys the story of my... The framework of how to use frameworks, how I started it. By the way yesterday, right? I told you my story about how I learned to earn it. I was on stage and I was casting my pearls before swine. I told that story before I gave you this framework, okay? The pattern is repeated over and over and over again. All right, so that said now we're going to jump into today, which, again, the goal today is for us to build out our very first funnel, okay?

So I'm gonna talk about two core frameworks you have to understand and then I'm gonna let you guys go. Probably ti's gonna be a little earlier today. And I'm gonna give you one pager which is gonna give you assignment. It's gonna walk you through tactics and you actually gonna have a chance to build your funnel today. And I prebuilt six funnels for you guys this weekend and you can pick any of the six or download all of them. You're gonna have them and it's giving you the framework. I'm gonna be giving you a new software tool that Jim Edwards built for you guys. We're literally filling in some blanks, you click a button, and it creates all the copy for every single page here inside your lead funnel, which is insanely cool and a bunch of other really cool things.

So that's what's happening. And then tomorrow we've got a special guest coming in. It's gonna to be... I'm excited to introduce her she's gonna be coming and will be talking about the emails you send out, okay? And so that'll be happening tomorrow and then on Friday we've no special guests. She's actually flying here from Texas. She sent me a picture of her at the airport and she's gonna teach you guys how to launch these funnels and start getting traffic coming in for free. So it's gonna be a... The rest of the week will really be fun and exciting, okay? But for right now we're gonna dive into building out your lead funnel.

Now I'm curious how many guys here who are watching, you've had a chance to read any of my books? Specifically, The Dotcom Secrets book. So Dotcom Secrets book is the first book I wrote. The hardbound version, new updated hardbound version. If you have the soft bound it's good. This one is way better. I rewrote this from the ground up I added, I don't know, I added 40,000 or 50,000 new words to this. New frameworks, new things. It's awesome, but in this book this is the book that teaches the core fundamentals of funnel building. You don't have a copy yet, you can get a free copy at dotcomsecrets.com But this is... A lot of the things I'm comes from his books. If you want to go deeper into that, make sure you get a copy of the Dotcom Secrets book, okay?

Okay, so one of the principles I talked about Dotcom Secrets book is this concept that I call the value ladder, okay? And some of you has heard me talk about this before but this... For you to be successful with funnels and lead funnels and all the stuff we're talking about you have to understand this core principle. It's something that's so simple where when you get it, it changes everything, okay? So if you look at this, I'm gonna draw two axis on this thing, okay? Over here, this is gonna be price and this is going to be value, okay? Now if you think about it as a business owner you want to provide the most amount of value possible for people to come into your world, right? And so I think about that and I'm like if somebody comes to me like, Russell, I read your books. This is really, really cool. I want you to... What's the best thing you can offer me. Like whatever it is I will give you. Whatever it takes, I want you to just to do this whole thing. What's the most value you can possibly offer me, the highest amount of value, right?

So for me if I was to like provide you guys a home, the most amount of value it would be basically I would pay for you to fly out here to my house, we sit in a room for a week. I would figure out what your business is, your product and I would go and write the scripts for yourselves and I'd create your funnels, I'd drive traffic, I would do everything for you, right? I guess the most value I could offer, right? If I just did the whole thing for you. And if you think about it, right? The value would be insane. It'd be clear up here but the problem is because it takes so much time and effort for me and for my staff, my team, and my everything because the price would also be high as well, right? So this will be... This would be like the most value I could possibly be... This is your smiley face. This the most value I could possibly give to you, okay?

Now, honestly, if I was to do something like that the reality because it's just how much time and effort it would take me to provide that much value this is something that I would probably have to sell for at least $1 million cash up front plus I would say 40% to 60% of the company depending on how much I'm actually running long-term, okay? But that's the most value I can possibly provide somebody, okay? Now it's funny to think about this if I was to walk up to you on the side of the street, the very first day I'm like, "Hey, my name is Russell Brunson and I would love to build a funnel for you." If you want to write me a check for $1 million plus give me 60% of your company, I will do this for you. How many guys would be like, "That's awesome, Russell, I'm going to do it." Right, how many guys will look at me and be like, "Russell, you look like you're 11 years old. You want $1 million to build a funnel? And then you want more than half of my business. It makes no sense," right?

Okay, the reason is because I've provided no value at this point, you have no context. Like is that a good deal or a bad I don't even know, right? So traditionally in businesses we don't just go lead with our best thing because we haven't shown value to the people first, right? So instead what we do is we come down here at the bottom of the value ladder. We say, "Okay, what's something I can do that provides value that's not gonna cost a ton of money," right? I'm gonna do something right here. Okay, so for me and for you this is like a lead funnel, right? Give me your email address, I guess the price of the members. Give me your email address I'm gonna give you this lead magnet, okay? And you're gonna get it you'll get some value from that lead magnet, right? And they get that and they're like, "Oh my gosh this is really good." And what do we do as humans? We get value from something. What do we naturally want, okay? If we get value from something or from somebody we naturally want more. So people come here to get value. This is lovely, this is amazing. That's awesome, that's cool. The next thing it say, "Okay, how can we get more value?" Okay, and now you step them up your value ladder to the next thing. That's gonna be a little bit more expensive. Okay, the price goes up but the value goes up as well.

Okay, the good case is like you buy one of my books. My books are free plus shipping, right? So it's $10 basically you get my book. The value is here but the price is low. You get that and you read the book like this is amazing, one more. Right, these are ClickFunnel and then you come to our events and like naturally start sending up, okay? And so that happens here. If somebody gets value here they go to the next year. Boom to the next year until eventually this is not that expensive. Okay, I guarantee if I send an email to my list and say, "Hey, I'm going to be building out five people's funnels. It's $1 million down and I want 50% of your business. I guarantee I get five people within 24 hours." Okay, because there's people who've gone through this process with me who understand the value of what I bring to the table and that'd be a no brainer, okay? 'Cause they've been through this before.

Okay, you think about this. This is true in like all aspects of life. Think about your significant other, the first time you met them, right? Okay, if you came to... Let's say you're gonna go on a date with a girl and you're like, "Hey, you are cute. The most value I can have you. I want to get married, we're gonna have a bunch of kids and then grandkids and it's gonna be amazing, right? If you said that to a girl or to a dude or whatever, they'd be like you're crazy. Like this person is nuts, right? And they're gonna freak out. So that's not how you go approach somebody if you want to date them or whatever, right? You start down here and you say, "Hey, do you want to go on a date?" Like, "Okay, how's that work?" We can go to dinner and a movie, right? The price isn't that high, the value is not that big a deal until you go on a date and then what happens. If the day goes good and the person sees value, like this was a great date. Now, I want more and you say, "Hey, do you want to go on a second date." And they're like, "Yeah." Okay, do you want to go another date and eventually there's a time when you come and say, "Hey, do you want to get married? I want to have kids with you and have a family and have grandkids someday." Well, all of a sudden that question is not this thing that freaks me out. It's like, "Yes, of course, you've given me value every single step in this relationship. I want to continue that forever, okay? So it works in relationships, it works in business, it works everywhere.

And so this is what we have to understand. This is what I call the value ladder, okay? And so this is what we're doing here inside the five-day lead challenge. We're introducing people into our world here at the bottom of the value ladder. Okay, we're giving them something where the cost is their email address. It's not expensive. Give me an email, I'm gonna give you this thing. And if they get that first framework they get that first one page, they get that first lead magnet and they go through it and they're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing. I want more, I want to on a second date." Okay, I want to go to the next step. I want to take the next level. I want to do the next thing with you.

Now, also you build this relationship and people come over and over and over. Okay, when I first launched my books and I started giving things away for free it changed my entire business, right? I was doing a lot of stuff before but I gave people this thing that read it they got value and they wanted to go the next thing, the next to the next thing and now we have clients that pay us $50,000, $100,000 a year and beyond because the value we provided at every single step. Okay, so that's what our goal is. Now a couple of things. If you read the Dotcom Secrets book I share like each tier in the value ladder there's different types of funnels associated with them, right? So this bottom tier right here, we call this lead funnels.

I think there's three or four that I share in the book. But the one that we're gonna be going through today is the most basic, the most simple, and it's a two-step lead funnel. Okay, lead squeeze funnel, okay? So that's the first one. I list here in the value ladder. Typically we use what I call unboxing funnels. My handwriting's horrible but there's an unboxing funnels, okay? And earlier I told you guys about the One Funnel Away challenge, the One Funnel Away challenge, actually, we spend all the time at this tier in the value ladder. Okay, the sales funnel we build out is a type of unboxing funnel and that's what we do during the One Funnel Away challenge, okay? The next tier up from here is what we call presentation funnels. Presentation funnels. This is where we're selling a little more expensive things. This is doing it like a webinar or doing a product launch funnel, things like that.

So there's different types of funnels to sell a higher ticket stuff. In the top tier, this we're selling really expensive stuff. There are different high ticket funnels that we use as well, okay? And so, again, each tier of the value ladder there's different types of funnels we use, okay? But for this training for the five day lead challenge we're spending all of our time focused at this tier of the value ladder, generating leads. Okay, and again, there's a couple types of funnels that we build but the most basic, the most simple one is just the two-step lead funnel, okay? So that's what I'll going to be creating today, okay? This is something that is not complicated, it's not hard, it's not frustrating. You literally can create this today and be done. If you create your lead magnet and your one pager yesterday you've got everything you need to have your funnel completely done, completely finished, and ready to rock and roll, okay? So that's what we're gonna be doing today for your homework assignment is actually building it out inside of ClickFunnels, which is going to be so much fun.

I made a whole video showing you the process and walking you through, okay? So, again, that's the first framework I want to teach you guys was the value ladder. Okay, so I'll write value here so you can remember. Here's the value ladder, okay? And, again, if you want to go deep and just get more examples and case studies, Dotcom Secrets book, I share a bunch of different ones, okay? So that's the value ladder. Okay, so now I want to go here. We're gonna talk about this right here. We're gonna talking about the lead funnel. So on day one I kind of told you guys a little bit about the double your dating funnel that I found when I was first getting started. When I was first trying to build a list, right? Where Eben Pagan had the kiss test. It had never been shown yet he was like, "Step one, give your email address I'm going to teach you the kiss test." And then on page two he gave you the kiss test. That was the lead magnet, right?

And so prior to that, before like that was one of the first we call it a squeeze page and I will explain why here in a bit. It was the very first squeeze pages I'd ever seen. Now, prior to that, I had learned about list-building and the way that people built lists back then was different, okay? Again, I've been online doing this now for over 18 years which is crazy. So back when I got started in this the game was different, right? It was way harder. This is before Facebook ads, before YouTube, before MySpace, right? When I got started MySpace wasn't a thing yet. In fact, you guys remember what the social network was pre MySpace. Okay, the OGs remember this. It was called Friendster. And we were trying to figure out how to use Friendster to build a lists. But back then it was a little differently.

So this is what the internet looked like back then. People would have a website, okay? There's a website here and this is what my doodle of a website looks like, okay? All right, so here's the website. And if you remember this you would go to somebody's website, right? You go to Google or you go to Yahoo or Ask Jeeves or whatever it was back in the day and you go somewhere and shop this website and then what would happen? Do you guys remember this? I'll give you a hit. It was like the most annoying thing on the planet. Okay, you shop this website and like this is awesome. I'm reading a scene and all of a sudden a certain a thing would pop up and they call it what? A pop-up. This pop-up would come up and be like, "Aha." Most of times is like, "Congratulations you won. You're the 1 million visitor to our website, put your email address down below to get a 30% discount." Guys, did ever see these? And so it was like the thing, like put your email address in and click submit and you win. So that was kind of what these popups were, okay?

And the people that I knew that I was learning from initially this is how they're making their money. This is how they're building the list. They would go and they would do pop-ups. So you drive traffic your site and they'd get a pop-up, okay. And then people put the email address and they started building a list, okay? It was interesting and then what started happening, I love the history of this. Then, remember, for me, I was like why don't have a website with a bunch of traffic to it? Like how do I... I don't want popups. And so these pop-up advertising networks we could go in and say, "Okay, here's my pop-up." I want it to show up on 1,000 sites or one million sites or whatever you put in how many impressions you wanted. So then somebody would go to random site and because I paid for my pop-up would pop up and it would a pop up like, "Hey, congratulations, thanks for coming to the website put your email address down below for this free report, for this free lead magnet," right? And so while that's what I was doing it was awesome. I was going... I was paying these networks. I was paying money to have my pop-up show up on all these websites around the internet and I started building lists and I was like, "This is so cool."

But then what happened, okay? It started getting more annoying 'cause what would happen is that these advertisers would be like, "Well, if I can sell one pop-up for like 30 cents what if I sold three or 10 or 12?" How many of you members you go to website and seen by pop up, pop up, pop up like four or five popups pop up you're like, "What's happening to my computer, I'm just freaking out," right? Internet Explorer is crashing this a whole nightmare, right? And so it got more and more annoying to the point where like Internet Explorer and the browsers we're like, "This is done. Let's just block all popups." And instantly overnight they create these things, called pop-up blockers. They would block all these pop-ups and boom they're gone.

Now for those who... Most of you guys were probably in the spot at a time in your life. Like thank heavens the pop-ups are gone but on the other side the marketers like me who were building huge lists of millions of people off these popups start freaking out like our lead source is gone. It just dried up, it disappeared overnight, right? And they're freaking out and we're freaking out like, "What do we do?" Okay, well, all you thought it was the end of the internet as we know it, right? And then there were some really smart people and I don't know who it was initially but someone said, what if we take this model, someone comes to the website and this thing pops up and we get their email address. What if we flip it around? And be like what are you talking about? It's like what if we did this? What if the first thing people see, instead is this page that says, hey, here's the free report, you put in your name and your email address, right? And then they click submit and then it takes them to the actual website, right? That was the premise.

And so instead of driving people to the website and having a pop-up we would drive them directly to the pop-up. And I remember people, like this was the debate in all the marketing forums back and they're like, "No, you can't do that." You're an idiot because nobody is actually gonna see your website. And you'd be like, "Yeah, but then I can't get emails. I can't follow up with people and no one is buying. I have to follow up a bunch of times before they're willing to buy and dah, dah, dah, all sorts of stuff like that. And so this was the controversy, okay? And about those time is when a couple people started testing it. One of them was Eben Pagan, okay, the guy who own Double Your Dating. This is where he said, "Okay, let me try this." Boom, give me your email address I'm gonna give you the free kiss test. People put email in, come over here, learn the kiss test, got value and then the bottom of page sold them his ebook. Boom blew up in $20 million business, okay?

Then other people started doing, other people start doing and I was like, "Oh my gosh, this actually works." Okay, don't think about the metrics on this, but what happened? Let's say you had 100, actually, let's go this way. Okay, let's say over here let's say you had 100 visitors come to your website, right? 100 visitors come, so a hundred times this pop came up, maybe you got like 20% of the people to put their email address in here, right? See 100% of people saw your website and only 20% joined your list, okay? And then you flip it over here, what would happen is you send those same 100 people to come over here and from here you get anywhere from who knows, let's 20% I guess. So 20% of people give you the email address, right? Then only 20% of people actually ever see your site and see, like, this is not going to work because you got one fifth as much traffic actually sees your site. But what they didn't realize is and this is what made the whole thing work is that these 20% people then gave you their email address, right?

Now you have the email address and you can go out here and you can send an email. Okay, so like again 20% will see that. And you send the email to 20% and you remind them about the thing and you send another email and you remind them. And you send another email and you can send three or four emails push people back to this thing and you can follow up with them. And they found at the time, I don't know if the numbers are the same or not but at the time it took someone on average seven times seeing your website before they were willing to buy. So what was happening in the past is you drive, pay for that as soon as come here, pay for them and after seven times of seeing then they buy. We're now happy to pay for them once. They joined your list and you send an email one, two, three, four, and by email seven a huge percentage had bought the thing. But now you have them on your list, right? Now you have them on your list, now what you do with that list, okay? Well, yeah, you have them on your list now you come back to your value.

Okay, they're on my list now, you send five, six emails someone bought my very first product. What's the next thing I sell. Oh, I can sell this, oh, I can sell this and all of a sudden they had the ability to now generate their own traffic. They have their own leads. They own traffic now. They didn't always have to go to Facebook or Google or YouTube to buy new leads, right? They own the list. They can say I want to send the list over there and send and they send and boom the list shows up there. I'm going to send over here, boom, and they can just send it to different places, okay? Where is this idea for five day lead challenge of two or three weeks ago. I was like, "I'm going to do this thing, we're gonna put up a squeeze page, right? It's okay opt in to this page. I sent emails to my list and 35,000 of you came and opted in. I didn't pay Zuckerberg for that list, I didn't have to pay. That came because I own that traffic, right? I control, I can send it to different places, okay?

And so it changed the dynamics of people's businesses, all right? So you come back here. Yeah, maybe only 20% people give you email address but now it's what I'm saying you follow up, you close a higher percentage and when all is said and done at the end of the day you actually end up making more money, okay? And that was the power. Now the cool thing of the internet. Internet is actually getting cooler since back in the day 'cause now you can have these things called retargeting ads where I can go deep into this but you see this before you can put a retargeting pixel on this page. So someone comes and 20% give you their email address but then 80% leave. So 80% of people leave, right? Like, oh, they're gone. But Facebook and YouTube and Google will allow you follow those people around and keep pushing them back and keep pushing them back till you get a higher percentage of people that can actually come and put their email address in, okay?

That's outside of the context we're talking about now but it's pretty cool because retargeting has given the ability to the people who bounce and leave to keep getting them and keep coming back and you push them into your funnels, okay? So that is what a lead squeeze is. We called this a squeeze page because traffic is coming in. You're squeezing their email address out and then you're giving them value. And if they receive value at this step in the tier, right from your lead magnet this is amazing, I want more then they naturally want to ascend up the value ladder, okay? People that came into Double Your Dating, they came for the kiss test, they read this kiss test and like this is amazing, they read down and like what else does this person have? I want more value. I want to go on second date with them, right? And at the end of the end of the kiss test, right? What would I have on offer? And he said, "Okay, well you got the kiss test. I've got this ebook called Double Your Dating for $97. Do you want to buy the ebook?" And they're like, "Heck, yeah." They bought the ebook, boom, right? And people read the ebook like this is amazing, a bunch of cool stuff that happens like cool stuff in the ebook, guess what? I've got a live event where we teach men how to do this in life.

Okay, the live is x amount of dollars and can people come to the event. Not everyone, okay, but a big percentage of people who got value of this step want the next step. And the live event is like, "Oh, by the way he's mentioning coaching programs." Boom, push you to the next step. Okay, and that's how this game is played, okay? Now for you all you guys are going to think about it a little differently. What does your business look like? Like what's my value ladder. Like y'all have to kind of figure out what's gonna be 'cause everyone's different, right? I remember when my wife and I first got married I had not had dental insurance for probably five or six years. I got married. My parents cut me off like, "You're an adult now, good luck." So I had no dental insurance, I couldn't afford it.

Fast forward like six years later my business is running, I have a couple of employees. My employees come to me and they're like, "Hey, Russell, since I worked for you, can I get benefits?" And I put it in context. I'd never actually had a job before. I was wrestling so I never had a job. So I had a couple of employees and they're like, "Russell, we're gonna have benefits?" I'm like, "What does that mean?" "Like benefits where you pay for stuff for us." So I'm like, "I pay your salary." Like, "No, no like dental insurance and health insurance." And I was like, "Is this is really thing." I'd never heard that before, right? And, yeah, it really is. I'm like, "Okay." So I went and we figured out how to get benefits for our employees and we got dental insurance, right? And so I'm like, "Sweetheart, I haven't seen a dentist in six years, I should go to dentists."

And about that time I get in the mail a lead magnet. I got the thing in the mail is a yellow postcard and said, "Hey, there's a new... We're a new dentist in town. If you want you can come into to our office and get a free teeth cleaning." And my wife and I are like, "Sweet we haven't cleaned our teeth in six years outside of her own brushing let's go." Boom, there's a lead magnet, right? Okay, so we call the dentist like, "Hey, we got this big old yellow postcard in the mail and you got a teeth clean?" He's like, "Sure, it's free come on in." So we come on in, right? Boom, I get the lead magnet. The dentist or the hygienist and they're all working on my teeth, cleaning my teeth are providing what? Providing value and like getting my teeth cleaned and do all sorts of stuff.

And the dentist comes afterwards looking to like, "Cool your teeth are clean." I just had a question for you like, "Are you a smoker? Do you drink coffee or something?" And I was like, "What?" No, I'm not a smoker. No, I don't drink coffee either." I'm like, "Why would you ask?" And he says, "Oh, well, your teeth are kind of... Just like kind of yellow. I don't know if you noticed because I turned my yellow I assume, maybe you drink coffee or smoke or something." I'm like, "No, I don't do any of that stuff." He's like, "Oh, well, if you want," he is like I can provide you more value. He didn't say that but I can give you a teeth whitening kit where you start whitening your teeth at home that way it goes from yellow back to white. I was like, "Are you kidding me? Yes, please do that." He's like, "Cool let me you a fitting for some teeth whitening kit." He fits my teeth whitening kit I was like, "Thank you so much." And so I get that, right? So he provided more value and I had to pay for that, right?

And then while he's doing more stuff he's like, "By the way did you used to have braces when you were young?" I was like, "Yeah, why?" He's like, "Oh, I can tell because your teeth are recrowding and a lot has happened with your braces off over years so your teeth are kind of recrowding. I'm like, "Are you serious?" He's like, "Yeah, they don't look bad but they are definitely like shifting around." And I was like, "Are you kidding me? Well, I don't want crooked teeth, what do I do?" And he's like, "Well, if you want we can build a retainer for you which help keep your teeth in place or we can do invisalign which will help realign." And I was like, "Yes, please," right? And so he did what? He provided more value to me, right? And so he's going through this so by the time he was done I got done with this experience of the dentist, I leave and I write them a check for $2,000 or $3,000.

Now am I angry about the experience? No. Why? He brought me in to this thing for free. I got value, I'm like, "This is amazing. I got a free teeth clean, it's amazing." He's like, "Hey, I can provide more value. I can make your teeth whiter." I'm like, "Sweet make them white." He's like, "I can add more value, I keep your teeth straight." I'm like, "Sweet," right? And he could have offered cosmetic dentistry, whatever the thing was, right? But he had his own value ladder. That's how he made money off of me. And then the next day my wife came in she got her teeth cleaned and she left there $2,000 or $3,000 check in the process worked, right? Every business has a value out of it. If you don't have a value ladder yet, you're probably not in a very good business, okay?

Your job is if you're like, "What's the process?" Why are you taking people through, okay? Now, again, that's kind of outside the context of the five day challenge 'cause our goal in five day challenge is this, how do we dominate this? How do we get so much value and people are like, "This is amazing, this one page of this framework." It's changed my life. This is awesome. I got this thing, I want more. Okay, like I said in the One Funnel Away challenge, we're starting on Monday we're going to go deep into this. Right, how do you create this sales funnel? So after they receive value, they're already getting... They like have a hole burning of pocket. I want to give you money. Like, "What's the next step?" You can be like, "Oh, here's the next step?" And pushing the next funnel.

I wish I could spend like eight hours a day going deep into that but that's what the One Funnel Away challenge is. We're starting on Monday live just like this. So, anyway, does that make sense? So those are the two frameworks I share with yesterday. Okay, the value ladder and the understanding of very basic, very simple two-step lead funnel, okay? One of the most basic types of funnels to generate leads, okay? All right, so I'm gonna show you guys what the game plan is. Now that you have your lead magnet, today's assignment is we're gonna be building out the most basic, most simple funnels. The two-step funnel, okay? On this page in the funnel you are gonna give people your actual lead magnet, okay? The thing you created yesterday you're gonna give it to them. Then come here there is gonna be a big button that says download and they're gonna download your one pager, right? You're gonna tell them thank you. We call this a thank you page. Okay, 'cause it says thank you. Thank you so much for giving me your email address here's where you can download the lead magnet I just promised you. Okay, this is a thank you page.

Okay, this page right here is what we call a squeeze page. Okay, squeeze pages are very simple. They're very basic. The most easiest page in the world came. Okay, most of my squeeze pages take me less than five minutes to build. Okay, I built six of them for you that I'm giving you on the one pager. You have a chance to see them in a minute. Okay, basically what a squeeze page is, there's typically a headline, maybe a sub headline, a picture of your one pager and the spot for them to put in their email and click submit. That's it. One of the most simple things in the world. And sometimes like Facebook they want you to have longer pages, okay? If you do just add some more bullet points down below with more context of what they're gonna learn about in your one pager. That's your squeeze page, squeeze page, thank you page.

Two pages, most simple funnel on the planet. You can literally create it in five to 10 minutes, okay? And so that's what we're gonna be creating today. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Now, a couple of things, okay? The tool that creates these funnels. If you know me at all, if you've listened to me, anything I've said in the last six years you've probably heard of ClickFunnels. Okay, ClickFunnels is my company. It's the tool that builds funnels. We have over 120,000 active members who use it, okay? A lot of you guys who are here already have ClickFunnels accounts. If you don't yet I'm gonna give you guys a 14 day trial to use it today so you can build out this funnel so you can have your very first lead squeeze funnel, okay?

That's number one. Number two, one of my business partners, Jim Edwards, creates some really cool software that we can give you for free today as well. And then when go in here you're gonna take information about who is your dream customer, right? We talked about your dream customer yesterday. Who's your dream customer. He's asked you a whole bunch of questions about that. And then who is my dream customer, what do they care about and you fill out this form. When you fill out the form then there's two or three forms you're gonna fill out, you're filling about your dream customer about things like that. And then you click a button and what it's going to do is it's actually gonna write all these things. It's gonna to write the headlines, it gonna can write the sub headlines, correct? All these different bullet points. It's gonna write the copy that goes right here. It's gonna write all that stuff for you. You fill out the form and you click submit and writes it all for you then you literally just copy it and paste it. Copy, paste, copy, paste, copy, paste and now you've got a funnel that's set up and ready to convert people and they show up.

Okay, this is called copy. The words on the page is called copy. Copy is something that gets people to do something you're gonna to do. And you can guess and try to write good copy but the software has been built for you is gonna make this copy super easy deal, it's high converting. It took the best headlines from all time. Like over the last like 100 years from the best highest converting headlines and reverse engineer in the software. So you tell them your product it'll pop out like here's a hundred headlines based on the highest converting headlines in the history of the world. And you take those and say, "Oh, this will actually go to my landing page and you can tweak it around, you can change them but it's powerful, okay? You don't have to guess and think like what's gonna work. Like the software is gonna write a copy that's gonna work for you out the gate. And we're giving that to you for free for being here. So that's a gift we wanted to give you guys 'cause it's gonna make this process simpler, okay?

And so today's assignment, like I said, if yesterday if you did your assignment it means you already have, oops, you already have the lead magnet done. So today we're gonna build the two pages, we're gonna put the plug the copy in, we're gonna plug the lead magnet on the download button and then you're gonna be finished, okay? It shouldn't take that long. If it's your first time on ClickFunnels it might take you a little bit of time but there's a video of me walking through every single step of the process and it's not gonna be hard. Okay, tomorrow what we're gonna be doing is, after somebody gives you their email address, right? Now we have these emails that go out, right? The question is what do we say on these emails, okay? There's actually six emails we sent out initially, okay? Six emails to build relationship people and get them to buy to your next thing in your value ladder.

Okay, so tomorrow I have a special guest, Jada Golden, who's gonna be coming and talking about what to send in those six emails. We also built software for you where you fill in the form, you click the button and it'll pre-write these six emails for you and then you plug those into ClickFunnels. That's happening tomorrow. It's gonna be really, really cool but for today this what we're doing on these two pages, okay? All right, I'm gonna have my team pull the one pager. So on my screen here this is the one pager I'm gonna give you guys today. We love one pages, they're the most exciting thing in the world. Number one you notice the very top it here it says... Scroll back up to the very top. It says your next challenge is you choose except to start sitting one phone, wait 30 day challenge. If you want to join the live challenge that starts Monday, okay, this is the 30 day challenge. We're gonna go through and build out your actual sales funnel. The second tier in the value ladder, click on that button and sign up.

It is not... The 5 Day Challenge has been free, the One Funnel Away challenge is $100, okay? So if you want to go the next step with me, if you receive value here so far and like I want to go next to your Russell's value ladder to figure out how to build out my next and my value ladder click on that link and join the challenge. Okay, you don't have to but that's there if you're looking for it, okay? This video right here now, this is a 32 minute video of me teaching and showing the actual tactics. Okay, this is me literally going to ClickFunnels and doing it and then going to Jim's software and doing it. So you'll see me at my house hanging out with you doing your assignments. You have like, "How does work, I'm confused" Watch the video, I do the assignment with you. Just pause it copy me, play, pause, play, pause, and just do it with me, okay? As scroll down here and see what the landing page looks like we're gonna be building here. Here you get your ClickFunnels 14 day trial. Here's where you get the funnel scripts light tool that's going to write all the copy for you. And then these are six different templates I built out for you, okay?

So there's six landing page templates that are amazing. This first right here, this is the landing page template. It has been the highest converting one for me. I will show you in the video but literally that template there over the last year has got me over 250,000 leads and I gave you that one as well. A bunch of other really cool ones are there so you can pick one of those six templates you want to use. You click on the button it copies into your ClickFunnels account and you can edit it. Okay, so there were three quick little video of me and Jim, you click on that video, it'll take you to a page. It gives you the software, it shows you how to use it. You're gonna fill in that software, click in the blanks, click submit and write all the copy for you, okay? Let's go back to the one pager. Oh, we just lost it.

So, again, the software you filled out it'll write it all the copy and we can get back to the one pager here hopefully. He calls the back buttons. We can it get back. There we go. Oh, open a new window there you go. Okay, then you take the copy from Jim's software, you can plug it into the ClickFunnels page and then just go through. Basically, you go through the to-do list. After you finished the do list everything would be done. Oh, September 3rd, other cool thing is, remember I told you here typically I have a picture of my ecover for the thing that the lead magnet they're getting. Okay, if you want inside a one page is actually a really cool tool that will build you out. and actually ecover. You fill in some blanks, click the buttons and boom it creates an ecover that you can then put on your squeeze page here or else I give you two other resources of places you can get your covers design.

Okay, I'm not a designer. I don't know how to design things so you can either create it for free inside of one pager or you can use some of the other resources like one is called Funnel Rolodex. Funnel Rolodex is a marketplace of funnel builders and designers who can design these things for you. Okay, if you're like I don't want to do a funnel, Russell, I'm scared to death you go to funnel Rolodex and there's, again, programmers designers you can hire to build your funnels for you. There's always people can do the ecover for you there as well.

Okay, there's other resources as well but all of the stuff's on the one pager. This is our gifts use of scroll, go back to the top and getting rid of... Get the one pager. The first thing is, watch this video. It's gonna show the assignment and then go through the assignment. By the time you're done you'll have your lead funnel done and ready to rock and roll, okay? These two pieces will be done and you'll be prepared for tomorrow 'cause tomorrow we're going to be building out the email sequence plugging it in. And when that's done, then Friday we're gonna be dumping tons of traffic into this thing and your first set of leads will be coming through and it's gonna be fun. So with that said my team is gonna put the link down below. This link it say one pager, okay?

Get in fivedayleadchallenge.com/clickfunnels. That is going to take you directly. It'll automatically take you this page save the page and now you have it inside your one pager your account and you can go to the homework assignment and all the other things involved. That's like fun you guys. I'm having so much fun of these. I hope you guys are enjoying today's training and all of these trainings so far. I'm super grateful. First off to have the platform be able to share this with you guys. Like I said, it means the world to me watching you guys have the aha moments like for the very first time. I still remember experiencing a lot of these ahas myself and I love giving them to you.

It's hopefully, as my aha moments and now it's just doing the actual work and works that hard luckily. Okay, we started the most simple funnel a two-step funnel. It's very simple, it's very easy. I give you templates, we give you software and we will will write copy. We give you software to build out the ecovers, all the things you need. Again, it's all on one pager down below. So go to fivedayleadchallenge.com/clickfunnels. It'll take you to this one pager, save in your account, watch the video, do the assignment, and then we'll be meeting back here tomorrow. Same time, same place. And then your email sequences is written out and plugged in and we're one step closer to the finish line. So that's it, guys. Thanks, again, so much. Get the one pager down below and I will see you guys tomorrow. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 2734 no Creating Your Lead Magnet (Onepager) - FDLC: Day 2 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/creating-your-lead-magnet-onepager-fdlc-day-2-of-5 This is day 2 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you enjoyed our last episode, which was day number one of the Five Day Lead Challenge. Today, we are moving into day number two. And again, this is a recording from a live event I did that you can go and get the actual videos if you want to see them, you can download the one pagers and get the homework assignments all those things for free. All you do is go to fivedayleadchallenge.com. You can get those things. I'm going to play day number two for you right now. And day number two is all about creating your lead magnet. What is the thing you can create that's going to get people to come from Facebook, or Google, or YouTube, or Instagram, or whatever, and actually give you their email address. And the better your lead magnet is the more people will give you their email address. So we're talking about how to create good lead magnets, what they look like. And then I'm actually going to be talking about one of my favorite software tools, second only to click funnels, and it's called one pager. One pager is how I create most of my lead magnets as you guys have probably seen. Again, there'll be parts of this that I'll be demoing stuff on a screen that you won't be able to see here on the audio podcast. But if you want to go see the video version and get the one pager, and the homework, and assignments, and things like that. Again, all you got to do is go to fivedayleadchallenge.com. So that said, I hope you guys enjoyed day number two, Creating Your Lead Magnet. Welcome back to day number two of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. Are you guys half as excited as I am? I'm not gonna lie of all the five days, this is the one that I've been looking forward to the most the teaching, the coaching and walking guys through, this one is gonna be so much fun. And so I'm pumped to see all you guys, thank you so much for hanging out with us today. Hopefully, you all had a chance yesterday to watch day number one. Day number one, the goal of that was to kinda give you guys a broad overview of this is what the process is, what the system is, what the frameworks look like, and today we're actually gotta get our hands dirty and start building something which is exciting. And so I'm pumped to be here with you guys. Thank you so much for hanging out with us, thank you for everybody who's been sharing these videos. I think before he pulled up, there was like almost 300 people that shared the videos already on social, these lives, thank you for sharing it. If you know anybody else who should be here, please tag them in the comments down below, and that way we can get more people coming and hanging out for this. Like I told you guys yesterday, over 35,000 of you guys registered to be part of this. We had over 11,000 people on live yesterday between Zoom and Facebook and YouTube, and then over 9,000 of you guys watched the replays, so this is amazing. This is like such a huge honor for me. So today's the day, like I said though, I'm most excited for. Today we're gonna be going into actually creating your lead magnet, your one pager and it's gonna be a lot of fun. But before I get too deep into that, I spent time yesterday looking through all of the tens of thousands of comments and questions, I also talked to a lot of you guys who were on and who had questions and stuff like that. So I wanna do a couple of things just kinda help and make sure that we're bridging this gap before I dive deep into the fun stuff I've got prepared for you guys today. Does that sound good? Okay, so the first thing I wanted to do, a lot of people, especially people who're kinda in different types of businesses were asking me about like how does this work Russell? Like I understand I need leads for my business. You talked about email list, you build a big list, you can send emails to but like, how does this work for my specific business? And so I wrote down a couple of different ones I wanted to kinda give some case studies and examples for, okay. So the first one I talk about, this is for like a traditional business. It's like a brick and mortar company. So I got a couple of good examples of this. One of them, one of my friends actually told me this story, he lives down in Florida and he is a guy who is like me, builds big email lists and stuff. And one night he went to order pizza, this is pre-COVID stuff, so you could still go and hang out and eat with people. And he goes to the pizza place and he sits down and he's waiting for the pizza guy to finish cooking his pizza and give it to him. And it's the local shop, so it's not like a big chain, it's just like a local dude who has got a pizza shop and having a lot of fun. And he starts asking my buddy like, "So what do you do for a living?" And he's like, "Oh, I'm an internet nerd, and this is what I do." And the guy was like, "Well, how do what you do work for me? Like I don't understand, I'm a pizza place. How do I use the internet, like how does actually work for me?" And so my friend came back to him and said, "Okay, well, let's do an experiment." He said, "Right now how are you getting leads? How do you get new people coming into the store?" And he said, "Well, word of mouth, we've got a yellow page ad, we were in some newspaper ads." They had some things they were using to drive leads in. And he said, "Okay, what I want you to do for the next 30 days, is we're gonna do an experiment. Okay, so for the next 30 days, when people come into your store is I want you to give them a lead magnet." He's like, "What's a lead magnet?" He said, "Well, in your case, a lead magnet for your pizza place is give people say, if you give me your email address I'm gonna give you a free topping, I'm gonna give you a free drink or something." And he's like, "Find something you can give them in exchange for their contact information." And the guy is like, "Okay, what am I gonna do with this like just right now for 30 days just get their contact information, I'll come back in 30 days and I'll show you step two in the plan." So the guy is like, "All right." So he put up a little sign that said, "Give me your email address, put your business card in here and we'll give you a free," I can't remember, "Free topping or something." And so the guy did that for 30 days. And at the end of 30 days, my friend came back to his place and the time he had 600 email addresses that got collected in the last 30 days. And my friend said, "Okay, now I'm gonna show you the next step in this process. These people came in, these are all leads, but these leads, we're gonna put them into an email list. Okay, we've got 600 leads." So he took them, he went and he set them into an email list. And we'll talk about how to do this actually on day number four. But he uploaded all these leads to an email list, and he said, "Why don't you use every single day at four o'clock, when people are still at work, they'll be getting ready to think like, "What's my dinner plans?" And he's like, "I want you to send them an email. And all the email is gonna say is, "Hey, it's four o'clock. and a lot of you guys are thinking about what you're gonna have for dinner, if you want, I can have a pizza ready for you in the next hour. Just call this number right here and I will have your pizza ready and you can come drive by and pick it up on your way home." So that's what he told him and said, "Every single day at four o'clock send that same email. You can tweak it if you want, but just regardless, send out the same email every single day." So the guy was like, "Okay, I'm gonna do that." And then my friend said, "I wanna test something though," and he's like, "I need you to set two phone numbers, it's gonna show you like, how much more valuable this is and all the other advertising you're doing." And the guy said, "Okay." So he had all the other advertising would go to one phone number. So the yellow pages, the radio ads, the newspaper, everything would go to one phone number. Then the email list went to a separate phone number, and I want you to track over the next 30 days, every day send out this email, and then I want you to see how many leads or how many customers came in from your email list versus all the other types of advertising you're doing. So then, okay, so he did that and he starts sending emails once every single day, every single day, four o'clock, send the same email send the same email, the guy didn't even edit the email. He just like copied and pasted it every single day. And after 30 days my friend came back and said, "Okay, what are the stats?" And the guy said, "It's crazy." He said, "My company has been so busy." He's like, "My best customers keep coming back." Before they'd come once or twice a quarter. Now, they come back once or twice a week to buy from me 'cause I'm putting these messages out in front of them. He said, "I did the math." He said, "Right now for every one phone call I'm getting from all my other advertising efforts, I'm getting four phone calls from my email list." And that's the power of it. So that's how it works for traditional local business. I had another friend who runs a gym. And he was actually my trainer for a couple of years and we're hanging out and we were lifting weights and he was telling me how to do stuff. And he's like, "So how would your internet stuff work for someone like me, I've got a gym?" I was like, "You know what?" And he was like "My Facebook ads, how's it gonna work?" I'm like, "Well, you can do that but let's go with the low hanging fruit." I'm like, "Do you have a list?" He's like, "What's a list?" I'm like, "Okay, do you have any leads?" He's like, "Kind of, not really." I said, "Okay, well, do you have dead files?" He's like, "What's a dead file?" I'm like, "A dead file is someone who came into your business at one point and that you have their contact information. They either trained with you, they didn't and they left, but you have their contact information, their email, right?" He's like, "Oh yeah, I've got tons. I have a whole filing cabinet full of those." I said, "Okay, this weekend, we're you to grab all those and put them all on an Excel sheet like the name and email address of all the people. And on Monday, I'm gonna show you guys the magic trick. I'm gonna show you magic trick." He's like, "Okay." So that weekend he went through his dead files, he put everyone's name, email on the list. He came back and on Monday I was like, "Well, how many do you have?" He said, "I had a little over 300 people." I said, "Okay, let me show you a magic trick. I'm gonna fill up your gym completely off nothing but your dead files." And he's like, "How does that work?" I said, "Watch this." So I took his 300 names, we put them in email list and I sent an email to that list. I said something, it was towards the new year. I said, I think the subject line I tried to get it, he wouldn't let me do this. But subject line was, "Are you fat again?" He was like, "I think it's gonna offend some people." I'm like, "Okay." We wrote an email basically saying, "Hey, one time you came in the gym, but you're no longer here. Right now, we got a special offer where you can come in like do free training session and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." He sent the email to just the dead files. The 300 some people who come in at one point. From that, he got 60 new clients to call him on the phone, come in and do a session and completely filled up his gym. And I came back to him like two or three weeks later, I was like, "Hey, ready for step two." He was like, "No, he's like, my gym's filled. There's nothing else like all my sessions are filled. I can't do anything else." All from just an email list. Can we just understand this is the power of your traditional business, how these email lists work. Oh, just to get the wheels spinning 'cause everyone's like, "Oh, I don't wanna a pizza place, Russell. Or I don't run. I don't run a gym. This works in any business. We had a girl that used to live by us. And I think she was 14 and 15 years old. And she was a babysitter. And I don't know about you guys, but for me it's like every weekend, it's like, "Oh, I want to go dance with my wife and I need to call a babysitter." And like all these things, it's like, ha, so frustrating. So we found this one babysitter, she was awesome. But the problem was she was in high demand. So like, and I didn't know why at the time it was like we'd get her one time and it would be hard to get her back and forth. And then one day when she started doing it was crazy, every Friday at about noon we would get a text message. This text message went out to us and probably 10 or 15 other families who she used, who would babysit. And she would text, excuse me. She said, "Hey, this is so-and-so." Excuse me she said, "I'm open to babysit tonight and tomorrow night, if you're interested text me back, first come first serve." And I get that text every Friday at like noon. And as soon as I came in, I'm like, "Oh." And I try to reserve my time. And she was booked up every Friday, every Saturday she had babysitting lined up every single week for the first, like it was insane because she had this list of five or six families, 10 families, whatever it was that she babysat for. And every week she sent the message out reminding them like, "Hey, I can babysit tonight." We're like, "Oh, thank heaven, I'm not gonna call a babysitter. I can like, this is great." And like that fast, she fill up her schedule just from her tiny email list of like 15, 20 people. So that's kind of how this process works. Oh, I'm gonna show you guys an example. Another one, a lot of people are like, "Well, I'm a network marketer, I'm a network marketer. How does this work for me?" So network marketers, a lot of times people in network marketing or affiliate marketing like this doesn't work because I don't have my own product, Russell. I don't have my own frameworks, I don't have these things. And I'm gonna show you guys about frameworks a lot today. But just think, for example, let's just say one of the network marketing companies I'm really familiar with is Proven. I do a lot of work with those guys and Proven is a product that helps people get their body in ketosis. So it's like, what if let's say that that's your product? That's the result that your company offers. So like what if you went and created a lead magnet it's gonna show that here's my number one recipe and how to get my number one keto recipe or here's 12 ways to get in keto faster or whatever. You make a lead magnet like that and you start driving traffic. I'm gonna show you guys here and you get a list of 10, 50, 100 people, 500 people, who are all downloaded your one-pager, your lead magnet, about how to get your body in ketosis or whatever it is. And now if the product you sell, is it something that's related to getting people in ketosis. Now, you can send emails to that list and say, "Hey, we have a special promotion happening. Hey, we have a sample going on. Hey, we have this thing." And you send emails lists to get people excited. This works in any company. I think about doTERRA is another company. doTERRA Essential Oils. What if I made a one page or a lead magnet? It's like, "Hey, here's six essential oils to help build up your immunity during COVID-19." That becomes a lead magnet. I send out, people start opting in and building this list of people who are learning essential oils. Now, I've got a list of my dream customers. Now, you send emails, getting them to sign up and become a distributor underneath me. See how this works like there's so many use cases and so many ways. Again, you'll see more ways to here in a minute. E-commerce, let's say you're e-commerce, so you're like, "Hey, I'm an e-commerce, Russell. I don't understand this whole list building thing." Well, let's just say, let's pick your e-commerce store, let's say you are selling camping stuff. So let's say e-com and your market is camping. So let's say I sell camping gear. I sell tents, I sell, I don't know, mess kits, I sell camping stuff. I don't even know what camping people do. I'm not a camper. But let's say I've got those camping e-com store. What if I make a lead magnet that's like, "Hey, the six best places in the United States to go camping or the five things you must have to be able to go camping." And sleep , talking about camping stuff. My dream customers, people interest in camping buy that or excuse me, opt-in to give me the email address. I build a list of 1,000, 2,000, 5,000 people interested in camping. And now it's the emails like, "Oh, by the way, have you seen my new camping thing, have you seen this, have you seen this?" And you can sell them the products in your store. So again, it works for every business. You have to kind of think a little bit about how to bridge that gap for yourself so hopefully some of those examples will get the wheels in your head spinning. I just wanted to start that way 'cause I know some of you guys a lot of people were like, "This is awesome, Russell. That's not gonna work for my specific business." It works for every business. I promise you that. If your business needs leads, it'll work for it. You just got to think outside the box. Like what is the lead magnet I have it's going to get my dream customers to come to me. So that's the first thing I want to share to kind of bridge the gap. Now with that, we'll start diving into the frameworks I wanna share with you guys today. Are you guys ready for this? We're gonna go, I think I got three frameworks I'm gonna go deep into that I'm excited to share with you guys. Anyway, I think you're gonna love them. So the first thing I want to start with, I kind of touched upon this yesterday, but I wanna go a lot deeper in it. So every single business, I don't care what business you're in. The first thing you have to ask yourself, step number one it's always figuring out who. Who is your dream customer? Who is the person that you've been called to serve? A lot of these people are like, "Oh, businesses is business." Like no, no, no. Businesses are all about serving certain group of clients. My business, I'm obsessed with helping entrepreneurs. So my dream clients are entrepreneurs, people who are starting their own businesses. People who want to change the world. That's my dream client. I have a very clear picture of who that person is. So my first question for you is, who is your dream client? Not like who's the random person who sees your ad and comes into the door. Who is your dream client? Who is the person that if you could work with them all day long, you do it for free because you love that person so much. That's what you gotta be thinking through. Who is your dream client? That's the first step in here. And you have to become crystal clear on who that person is. If you don't know who they are it gets really hard to attract them. If I'm like, "Oh, I'm just trying to get customers. I don't know." If you do that, you're gonna attract random people off the street. But if you know exactly who you are looking for, it gets really easy to attract that person. And I could go on for days. In fact, if you read the "DotCom Secrets" book, the very first section, I talk a lot about this. Like who's your dream customer, you gotta figure out who that person is. So that's the first step, who's my dream customer. The second thing it says that every business is in the job, I don't care what business you're in, your goal is to figure out who your dream customer and then get that person a certain result. Like that's the goal. So I don't know who is. And the second question is, here's this big journey they're going on up the mountain. And the second thing is what is the result that I am getting for them. Now, in most businesses there's a lot of different types of results. Right now I think like what's a certain result that you can get for your dream customer. So think about, it's like let's say your dentist. So my dream client are people local area who want straight teeth, that's my dream client. What's the result I get for them? I help them get straight, clean white, beautiful teeth. That's the result I get somebody. If you are a masseuse, who's your dream client? It's somebody who's trying to get in good shape, someone who's trying to get their body in shape and things like that. There's your dream client. What's the result you're getting for them? I'm getting out of pain, helping them to be more relaxed and help do whatever the thing is. There's a result I have for them. If you are any business, like for example, right now before I started this whole 5 Day Challenge, my question was who are my dream clients? My dream clients, people are trying to figure out how in the world to get leads for their business. What's the result I wanna get people? I want to show them exactly how to build out a lead magnet, a squeeze page funnel, and drive traffic so they can start getting leads, like that's the result I wanted to give people when they started on this path. So for you those are the two first questions, who's your dream client? And what is the major result you're trying to get for them? And now you stop for a second, say, "Okay, that's the major result I want to try to get for somebody." So then the question is, what is the step-by-step process to get them the result? You've been on this path before. You've already gotten this result. If you haven't gotten this result, you're not in the business of getting people that result. That way if you haven't achieved the thing you're trying to promise people you're going to help them with, you shouldn't be in that business. So if you're trying to help them get result means you've already gotten that result for yourself. So the question then is, well, what were the steps for you to get the result? What was the first thing you had to do to get towards that result? What was the second thing you did? What was the third thing you did? What was the fourth thing you did? What was the fifth thing you did? What were all the steps you did to get that result? So think for a second, what were the things? Here's a 5 Day Lead Challenge, guess what my results were? For number one I had to create a lead magnet. Number two, after lead magnet I created a lead funnel. After lead funnel I had to create an email sequence to build a relationship with the list. I thought I'd launched my funnel, get traffic coming in. And then so these were the steps I had to do to get leads into my business. So before I did this whole training I sat down saying "What's the framework I need to teach people? What are the step-by-step process that I have to show people to do to get the same result that I got." So I take those step-by-step things and I create what I call a framework. And a framework is just the step-by-step process. In framework say step number one, you do this. Set number two, you do this. Step three, four, five, six. And like I walk some people through the actual framework. You call it a framework we call it the recipe. Like this is the recipe. If my results to make a cake, what's the first step making cake. What's the second, what's the third, what's the four? It's not difficult to make a cake when you've got the recipe. Your job as a business is to help people. Your basically you're creating a recipe to get your dream customer a certain result. That's all it is. Every business, I don't care what business you're in. You offer people result and you have some kind of framework, some kind of proprietary framework or recipe or process or something you take somebody through to get the result. That framework, that process is what I'm gonna call your framework, like I call them a framework. But it's a framework. It's a step-by-step process. This is the thing that becomes your lead magnet. And I'll go deeper 'cause people are like, "Well, what?" I do a lot of results, what's the right one? I'll show you guys that here in a few minutes but this is the first key is the framework. As I do in notes here today, I was mapping out some businesses I wanted to share examples for anyone, 'cause again, people always like how's this work for my specific business? So here's a framework. So let's just say your dentist. Your dentist, your dream client is somebody who's trying to get straight white teeth. That's the result they want. So what's step-by-step process? Step number one, you've got to brush your teeth twice a day, morning, night. Step number two, you've got to floss. Step number three, you've got to use mouthwash. Step number four, you gotta use teeth whiter. Step number five, you gotta come to the dentist. Step number six, and you have a step-by-step process to get in that result. So if you're a dentist that's the framework. That becomes the lead magnet to get somebody to come in. Let's say you are selling a ketogenic diet or you're network marketing program is selling ketogenic things. So let's say your dream clients are people trying to lose weight. You lost weight, how'd you do it? Here's a step-by-step process I used to lose weight on the keto diet or the paleo diet or the whatever you're thing is. Here's my step-by-step process. That becomes the framework now that you're going to share with people. Oh, I was going to show you some examples. So some of the products I've created throughout the years. My very first product ever created somebody hasn't heard about this one was my how to make potato gun. All this was me saying, who's my dream clients? Somebody who wants to make a potato gun. What's the result? I'm going to use my potato gun. How to make potato gun? What's the step-by-step process? Step number one, you got to go to Home Depot and buy the pipe. Step number two, you got to cut the pipes to slice. Step number three, you got to get the glue. Step number four, and basically I wrote here's the framework of the step-by-step process to create a potato gun. I sat there with a video camera and I recorded myself teaching step one, two, three, four, but this was just a framework of how I made a potato gun. That's it and that became a product I could then sell or I could use as a lead magnet or I could use for a coaching program, whatever it is. But this framework is a step-by-step process to get a certain result. There's the result. Let's see, if you've read any of my books, all my books, these t's like "Dotcom Secrets" are all the frameworks of all the sales funnels, how to build sales funnels. Expert secrets is the frameworks on how you tell the stories to convert people inside your funnels. Traffic secrets are my frameworks to get traffic. If you look at one of my books, "Network Marketing Secrets." These are all my frameworks. If my dream client's a network marketer, the result is how to use funnels to get leads for network marketing. This book was my step-by-step framework to be able to do that. "30 Days", this is one of our products called 30days.com. And what I did is I interviewed 30 people and I asked them this question, I said, okay let's say you're going to a brand new complete newbie. Somebody who didn't know anything. So there's my who. And their goal is how did I build a business in 30 days using nothing but ClickFunnels? What would I do? And I had 30 people write a chapter saying, "Okay, well this is what I would do. My step would be step one, two, three, four and this is the process I would go through to get that result. I have 30 different people each write a chapter in here, telling me what their step-by-step result would be to help somebody who's brand new to the launch funnel inside of ClickFunnels in 30 days. I took all these, put them into a book and became a product. I could take one chapter out of this and that chapter could be lead magnet. Like let me show you how Liz Benny, her 30 day plan to go from beginner to startup. However, give me your email address, I'm going to give you Liz Benny's plan. I think one of those out in that framework is something that can become lead magnet. All right. So what a framework is. Does that make sense, you guys? And so all you guys have frameworks Everything we use has a framework. So I wanna start thinking like what are your frameworks? What could your frameworks be? 'Cause everyone's got them. So let me start thinking through that. And I'm going to show you guys in a minute how to pick the right framework 'cause my guess is you have more than one. Mostly guys have more than one result. You can get somebody. But the key there is you're creating a framework. Now, one thing that I'm excited for today you guys will learn about in your homework is how do you make that framework tangible? A lot of us have a framework. Oh, I have a process, how do I turn that into a lead magnet? How do I make it a tangible thing? How many of you yesterday downloaded the one pager I gave you? The one pager is my new favorite tool. As you can tell, I'm obsessed with. Every day of this challenge, you are getting a one pager and then I'm giving you a bonus one this weekend I created two. The one pager literally all it is is it's taking this framework you created and it's making it tangible. It's tangible where somebody could actually take it. They can give you their email address, you can give them something. So one pager is a way to take your framework and then turn it into something you can give people. And again, your homework summit tonight is gonna a chance to actually take your framework and you're gonna build out one page or so. When it's done, you've got this amazing one pager here where it's got your entire framework built out. Like I said you guys got one yesterday. One of my one-pagers yesterday is an example. I'm gonna give you another one today and you'll see it as an example of an actual framework. In fact, back in the house, guys let's pull up the framework for today. So this is the framework I'm gonna be giving you guys tonight for your homework and I'm not gonna go through it now. But if you scroll down really, really quickly, this is basically thinking day two's framework the step-by-step process and it's all in here. So I took my framework and I made it tangible by turning to one pager. Now, I'm gonna give all you guys. So my goal for you guys is the same kind of thing, is you're gonna take this framework you're creating or make it tangible by turning into a one pager then you can give somebody when they give you their email address. All right. One other thing. Oh yeah. One other thing as well as we're talking about frameworks, this is happening more than I think most of you guys realize, more than I realize. And it's, I want you guys to see it. If you watch the way that I teach or the way the products I sell, the things I'm doing all the time, they're always frameworks. Everything I'm doing is a framework and "Dotcom Secrets there's probably 30 different frameworks I share. Expert secrets is probably 22 different frameworks. Travel secrets is like 40 frameworks. They're just different frameworks I'm teaching people and they're all in there. How many guys know what's these right here? This is the manual for Unleash the Power Within. So this is interesting. So 10 years ago I went to Unleash the Power Within, Tony Robbins event, actually probably 12 years ago now. First time I met him in person was in this event was really, really cool. And as I went through this four day event I remember just being blown away. I was like, "This is the most amazing thing in the world." Like, I don't know how Tony does this. How's he gonna stay for 50 hours straight without any notes and teach all of this kind of stuff. And like has these trans these things where he's transforming people's lives like was just the most amazing thing. I felt like almost like "The Wizard of Oz." Like how is he doing this? I have no idea how he's making this whole thing happen. It was so cool to see. And so that was kind of the thing. And then 10 years later, 12 years later, UPW went virtual, And so I wanted my kids to experience this so we signed up, my wife, my kids, we all did together. We got the workbooks and we sat down and Tony got onstage. Virtual stage, day number one, he started teaching. And as he was teaching, really quickly, I was looking at his whole teaching through a different lens than I typically did. In the past, 10, 12 years ago, the first time with UPW I was just like, "This is amazing. I don't really see what happening." Now, 12 years later I've had enough experience. I was like, "I want to study not so much what he's teaching, but how he's teaching. Like, what's his process? Like how does this actually work? And day one, he started teaching and all of a sudden he started teaching and he broke out his very first framework and he start teaching his very first framework. There was a result he was trying to teach us and he walked us through his first framework. And I was like, "Interesting." So what I did is I opened up my notebook and the very first page here I wrote down the framework. The framework was called three levels of mastery. The result that Tony was trying to get everybody at UPW is let me show you how to master something, how to gain mastery. He said there's three steps to it. Step number one is this, step number two is, and step number three is this. He spent like 45 minutes teaching three levels of mastery. And I was like, "Cool." And then he all of a sudden, he went to the next framework. He said, "Okay, next framework." He didn't say it this way. Next thing is the three mandates of leadership. I'm gonna teach you guys the result, how to become a leader. He said there's three mandates of leadership. Step number one is this, step two is this, step three is this and he went on. I wrote down that. There's a second frame he taught three mandates of leadership. And all of a sudden Tony went from there to the next one. He said, "Okay, I'll teach you guys my success cycle." Boom the result, how to be successful. Here's the step-by-step process for the success cycle. And then he went on the next one and it was the three decisions that changed your life. He said, "Here's the result, I'm going to show you guys how to change your life." Here's the three decisions, boom, boom, boom. Then he went, the three patterns of focus and meaning. How to change the meaning in your life. How to change your meaning, you change the meaning change life. Here's the three patterns of focus. And then the two primary fears. You're struggling, you have these fears. Here's your primary fear, how to break them. Number three, the three ways to grow a business, boom, boom, boom. The two ways to master skills, the three forces of creation, the three chunks of practical psychology. The three things that cause suffering, the tried, the three molders of meaning and then the six human needs. And I watched it. That was day one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 13. So day number one at UPW, Tony went through 13 different frameworks. This is how Tony is able to get up and speak for 50 hours without notes. He's like, "I have my frameworks, I know what they are and I'm just gonna go through them in order." Step number one, I'm gonna teach you guys the three levels of mastery. Step number two, the three mandates of leadership. Step number three, the success cycle and on, and on, boom. That was day number one, UPW. Day number two, he had a whole another set of frameworks. Day number three, a whole another set of frameworks. Day number four, a whole another set. All you guys have frameworks to do the thing that you do. You just didn't know what it was. First time I watched Tony speak I was so mesmerized. I didn't understand and all of a sudden, the second time I felt like it was like "The Wizard of Oz." Like I saw the guy behind the curtain like, "Oh, he's just he's got a whole bunch of frameworks that are amazing and he's teaching them like that that's the secret." A lot of guys like "No, I think people see things, no you don't." You went to dental school and somebody taught you a result. You learned the skill set and you came back and now you follow the step-by-step framework to get people's teeth cleaned or you're an orthodontist and you know how to get the results like get people see straight. That's what I do, no, no. All you did is you went to college, you learned a framework, you came back and now you apply that framework to get people see straight. Every business you're in that's all it is. You have a dream customer, they want a result. You know how to give them that result. You went through the process, you paid the price. At one point you did it either through school or through learning for somewhere. Somehow you learn that thing and now you're helping through the process. That's it, that's the game, you guys. You have to understand that you have these frameworks. And so that is the key to building out lead magnets is the key to creating products, is the key to creating services, is the key to creating everything is understanding that you have frameworks and start looking for them. So I to show you that 'cause I want you to see like that's what everyone's doing, that's what I'm doing, that's what Tony's doing, we have our frameworks we teach them, we show them. So my frameworks come in training like this So I take my frameworks I develop them into software. Some people create framework, they turn those frameworks into supplements. Here's the supplements to take, to get the result I want. Some people doing the coaching, we do consulting Some people do with actual physical products like every single business is that. Think about a restaurant, what's the result in the restaurant? My dream client, somebody's hungry, I'm going to feed them this food. They're gonna feel happy. What's the step-by-step process? They come in, we feed them this, we do this, we take it. And here's the process we go through. So all you guys have frameworks. The value you have is your frameworks. So when you start thinking through that through a different lens and somebody's like I don't have frameworks yet. I promise you do. You just haven't started identifying. This is your job to start breaking down like what are my frameworks? What are the things I know how to do? When I create my potato gun DVD I didn't know it was a framework. I just knew how to build a potato gun. So I made a product teaching it. Looking back I was like, "Oh." I built the frame. I built a potato gun so I had a result. I just wanted to replicate so I walked into the process now everyone can build a potato gun. There's a recipe it's really simple to do. All right. So this is the key. You guys understand that? So next question is like Tony had 13 different results and frameworks for day one. Like what's what frameworks should I be using? That's the big question. So let me come back. And so what I want to talk about is there's this path of you taking your dream customer on a journey and there's different results you can give somebody. There's like big results. Like if you look at my mission, my mission is to help entrepreneurs like you to grow their companies through sales funnels. That's the big result. Like that's the ultimate result I want to get for somebody. There's a lot of sub results underneath that. And so what I did the other day I was kind of mapping this out as I was preparing to teach you, how do you break this down in a way it's simple for people? So think about like for you with your clients, there's the ultimate result. So this is the thing, ultimate result. So for me my ultimate result is gonna help you grow your company through sales funnels. The problem typically with an ultimate result it's a big goal, it's awesome. But guess what? It's typically not a very sexy hook. If I was like, "I'm gonna teach you guys how to grow your company with sales funnels." Like, "Is that hook good?" It's like, "Oh, it's okay but it's not like great." Typically our ultimate result we're trying to get somebody is not like the sexiest most exciting thing in the world 'cause it's so broad, it's so big, it's just not that tangible. 35,000 people who would not have registered for this event, if I was like, "Hey, if you sign for this 5 Day Event I'll teach you how to grow your company with sales funnels." You're like, "Ah" So the ultimate results like this is what we're trying to take people. This is typically not what we're actually selling. Underneath this ultimate result, there's a whole bunch of what I call core results that we offer people. So you come down here and there's different core results. I'm gonna list a couple of them here and every business has these core results. So for me, like, for example, if my goal is to grow your company through sales funnels, so how do I do it? There's a lot of ways to do that. Well, one way, one core results that I could do that by teaching you guys how to build and launch a webinar, that's one way. Make sense. Another way I could do is like let me show you how to drive traffic into your funnels and that if you learn to drive traffic that'll lead to your ultimate result. Oh, another one is I'm gonna show you how to write copy, how to tell your stories. Another one is gonna be whatever. So I have these core results here. So this is the ultimate result. These are your core results, right here so you can see it, core results. That's the second thing here, so these are the core results. Now, typically you'll get in what most businesses, the core results, these become like your actual products. So I have a product teaching people how to grow a company with a webinar. Perfect webinars secrets, I teach people. Here's how to write a webinar and how to do sales page and how to do your webinar funnel, how to drive traffic, how to do leads, how to close the sale, like I have a cold course that teaches that. And so some people are coming here and like, "Oh, I want to learn about build a webinar that's way sexier." Then they coming here they're gonna buy the thing on webinars. Which ultimately is gonna help them to grow their company with sales funnels 'cause webinar is the type of funnel or traffic. That's the traffic secrets book. Traffic secrets, like if you have a funnel you need to get traffic to drive to grow your business. So I have this book, traffic secrets that teaches people how to get traffic which ultimately helps them with the ultimate result of trying to get you, which is how to grow your company's sales funnels. 'Cause traffic is one piece of that, copy is one piece that always things are piece of that. So think about your business. Like what is the ultimate result that you offer your clients? The end goal, the end-all be-all. I want to help people to transform their life I want to help people that whatever they thing might be. So now, break it down. Like, what are the four or five things they have to master or learn? What are the things that are the core results that they're gonna have to learn to be successful with this? So for me, typically, and by the way you can see this here, magic inside my books. First thing I have to learn is how to master funnels. I'm sure you've learned how to master copy inside the funnels. Number three, how to learn to get traffic. So like, if you were writing a trilogy like I did for your business, here's the ultimate result. What are the different books or products or things that are gonna help ultimately, help people to get that ultimate result? And again, I want you brainstorming through this and you're gonna be doing your homework down here. So I'm gonna have you say, "Here's the ultimate result, here's the core results." Now, the next step after that because this is where we're actually gonna be selling something. And actually when you guys decide to join the one funnel away challenge, actually next week we're doing one funnel challenge. We're starting over from scratch. I'm doing it live just like I'm doing this live. I'm gonna do it live for 30 days. It's a 30-day challenge. And in the 30-day challenge when we focus on taking one of these and actually building out an entire funnel to sell something. This challenge about generating leads. The next challenge is about actually selling something. So the one funnel away challenge I highly recommend you guys when this challenge is over to sign up for that one. Again, I go live on Monday but I'm going to teach, we're taking this and how to make a sales funnel selling one of your core results you offer somebody. But I'm gonna take more step further. So for your primary lead magnet, lead magnet, you're bringing in, I'm not using this as my lead magnet. I'm gonna go one more tier deep. So under webinar, it was a bunch of these splinter results. So I'm gonna call these splinter results or frameworks. Every step has got 'em. Some would call it splinter/frameworks. I hope, sorry, my handwriting's horrible. But on the one page, guys, you're able to see my actual handwriting. So these are the splinter results. So if you look at this, my ultimate result I'm trying to get people to grow their company with sales funnels. One of my core results is like I'm gonna show you how to build a webinar funnel 'cause if you have a webinar funnel successful, you're gonna be able to grow your company with a funnel, a webinar funnel. So then inside of webinar if like what are all the pieces? What are the core things? I should look, well, to be successful the webinar, number one, you have to learn how to like actually write a webinar presentation. So that's the core result or excuse me, a splint result is I gotta teach you this one, write this one in black. This is how to actually write your webinar. So for me, my framework here is called the perfect webinar, perfect webinar. That's the framework. Over here, you have a webinar presentation that's awesome. But you also, if you've got the presentation you also need the webinar funnel. If you have the funnel, you also got how do you drive traffic. So there's traffic inside here. There's a bunch of different these sub results. And one of them, one of the frameworks in here is how do people actually show up? If you will actually show up to webinar. So these are all these core. These are all of these splinter frameworks that they have. Now, your splinter frameworks, these are the key, this is what becomes your lead magnet. The further down you go on this, the sexier the thing becomes because it becomes more and more and more and more specific. The more specific it is, the sexier it is. Your lead magnet wants to be so sexy that people are going crazy, they have to get it. I showed you guys yesterday double your dating, what was the lead magnet? The kiss test, how to find out if, when you're on the doorstep, how to find out if she's ready to be kissed or not. The ultimate results for this person to get married and fall in love. Down here, it's like how to find a girl, down here is the kiss test. The kiss test is sexy. That's the thing like, "Oh, I need to know that framework. I got to figure that thing out." So for you it's like, "What is this, like what is the thing that's the most sexy, exciting, intriguing?" Someone's like, "I need to know that thing, what is it?" So for the example I'm gonna show you guys tonight in your homework is I decided to pick this right here. I said, "Okay, the one I'm gonna pick is this right here, how to actually show up the webinar." So I took that over here. I said, "Okay, how do you get people to show up the webinar?" What's my framework for that? And I had seven steps. So here's my framework. Step one, step two, step three, their seven steps. Here's seven things I do to get to make sure if you will actually show up for the webinar and then they're prepared to buy from you. And I turn it into a framework. And then from there I turn it into a one pager, one pager. And that became my lead magnet. And somebody saw yesterday, notice was on your homework. Do you see it? I did it ahead of time. Run your homework yesterday, some you saw that. If you clicked on the second of the three lead funnels, the second one was called, what secret webinar hacks. You clicked on that and you saw this framework. It was the seven things that I do to make sure people actually show up to our webinar and buy. And somebody has opted in that and you got it. You got the one pager of this thing. That was sexy, people who are trying to figure out this whole webinar things like, "Oh, how does this work." Like, "Oh, how do you people show up?" Like, that's a good question. Like, I don't know how to get people to show up. That's the sexy hook, that becomes the lead magnet. Someone's gonna say, "Hey, I'll give you my email address that I need that piece, I need that nugget, that thing you've got like that kiss test, how to show up to a webinar or whatever that thing is." Like, "I need that thing." They give their email address and now you're able to exchange it for them. So that's the core. That's how we make these things sexy. We're pulling out the lead magnet here from the splinter results. And so that's the big secret. So what I want you guys thinking about in your business is what does this look like? And for all guys can be different. You guys start thinking through it. From a high level, what is the ultimate result you're trying to get for your for your clients? What is that? The ultimate result, that is the thing that's up here on the top of the thing. This is the ultimate result. Now, you break down, you say, "Okay, what are the core results?" There's going to be three, four, five, 10 different core results that all lead to this. And each of those is its own journey, it's its own result. There'll be four or five mountains you got to get to before you scale Everest. So what are those other mountains? What are these other results you get for somebody? Those are the core results. And then from the core results, it's like, Okay, let me do one more tiered lower. What are all the things that go into the core result? Here's the different frameworks I have, there's four or five frameworks for that. I'm gonna grab this one that becomes the sexy, so that's how it's gonna work. If you think about this, let me go back to my books for a second. So say "Dotcom Secrets", for example, so my ultimate results help you grow company's sales funnels. This book right here is the underground playbook to grow your company with sales funnels. So this becomes a core result. You buy this book, it's gonna teach you guys the core results about building a funnel. With that core result inside of here there are how many secrets? 28. There's 28 secrets. So for me each secret is a framework. So I could grab, I look at all my 28 frameworks, like which one's the most exciting? There's a whole bunch in here. There's the secret formulas, hook story offer, there's the value ladder, there's attractive character, there's funnel hacking, the seven phases of the funnel, there's followup funnels, there's lead squeeze funnels, survey funnels, summit funnels, book funnels, cart funnels, challenge funnels, VSL funnels, webinar funnels, product launch funnels application funnels, curiosity-based headlines scripts, who, will, why, how scripts, star story solution script, OTO script, there's a perfect webinar script, the product launch script, the four question closed script, the set or closer script, there's click funnels, funnel stacking and funnel audibles. So that's the 28 frameworks inside this book. So I will look at this. Which one of those 28 frameworks is the most exciting? I'm like, "Okay, what's the one that can be most exciting?" I'm curious for you guys, which one was the most exciting? Would with a secret formula whoever wants secret formula? I could take the secret formula and that becomes the framework that I'm gonna give away, turn into a lead magnet. Or I could take funnel audibles. Somebody goes like, "Oh, what happens if your funnel flops? What do you do?" Boom. I can take the funnel audibles, one. Take the step-by-step framework I have for that one. Turn to one pager, make up a landing page and boom that fast I've got a lead magnet. So start thinking about your business that way. What are all the frameworks of the sub frameworks, the splinter results they're inside of the core thing you're trying to teach people. And in there is the magic. I'm looking, what's the sexiest things to get people to raise their hand, find that thing, pull it out. Look at here's the step-by-step process. And then we're gonna turn into one pager tonight and this will become a tangible thing that now you can exchange for an email address. Does that makes sense? All right. I'm excited. I got one more thing I want to share with you guys today and I'm gonna give you your homework assignment. So the last thing I wanna share with you guys, I know that a lot of you are coming into this world. You didn't come here as an educator. You came here because you really good at getting this result. And now you're like, "Man, for me to create a league man I've got to educate people, I've got to give them a framework and teach it in a way that gets them excited and make them wanna continue this journey with me. And you're probably nervous. And so I wanna share with you guys a framework that's going to teach you how to actually teach your framework. And this is something I use over and over and over again. And it's my framework for how to teach frameworks. And so I'm gonna show you guys how this process works because as you start creating a framework your gonna need to know how to do this. So step number one, you take your framework. So here's your framework. You've got your thing and here's your steps. Step one, two, three, four, five, however many steps you got and I don't care. It could be two steps, it could be like some of Tony's here were the three levels of mastery, three mandates, the two primary fears, the two master skills. So your framework doesn't have to be 80 steps. It can be two steps. It doesn't matter if you have your framework. So now you have this framework. How do you teach this? I remember when I first started developing my own frameworks, I know it was called that time but I remember I was learning this stuff. I was putting it out in my notes. I was like, "I'm gonna teach this." I got invited to speak at a seminar. I remember I got there to seminar I was so nervous, I was so awkward. Somebody hasn't seen the video I had my tie on and my glasses on, a shaved head I was trying to be very businessly. That's what business people do I thought. And I got there to start teaching. And first thing I do is, "Okay, I've got this framework. I know exactly how it changed their lives. I've gone on this path, I got a result. I'm going to give them the result, I'm going to shove it down their throats. I said, "Okay, here we go." I came in, I start teaching the framework. All right, guys, my name is Russell Brunson, step number one, how to be successful, what do you do? Step number two, and I went through my framework. And this framework is something that I had spent years learning and understanding and mastering. It was so important to me. I remember I met this event teaching two or 300 people, as I'm teaching people I started looking around and the audience is like nodding off. People are falling asleep, people getting up and the walking out of the room. I remember being so frustrated thinking like they don't know like what I'm giving them. Like this is so valuable. I remember there's a scripture in the New Testament where Christ talks about not casting your pearls before swine. And literally that's how I felt. This is this pro I spent two or three years mastering, learning and understanding this result. I know how to do. I'm trying to give it to people. I feel like I was casting my pearls before swine. How frustrating is that for you as an educator? I was ready to quit. I was like, "This is dumb." Like none of you really understand what I'm giving them. Like they understood what I had to learn and understand. Like I literally had to bleed to learn these things for them and they're just like walking away from them. I was so frustrated. So I did the first event I was like, "That was horrible." I got invited another event, same thing I come in it changes people's lives. Here we go, step number one, Step number two, step number three and people were passing out. I go to the third event and I'm just so discouraged. I'm like, "This is dumb." Like I feel like I'm just wasting my time, wasting their time. I get on stage and start teaching it. I go through the first thing, the second thing, some guy stands up and walks out. I get so mad. I slam my hand down on the desk and everyone sits up. I remember like being kind of shocked I had everyone's anyone's attention. And then the angry Russell came out and I said, "Do you not understand what I'm about to give you guys I'm trying to share this. Somebody just walked out, half of you guys are sound asleep, let me explain to you what I had to go through to understand, to learn this." I started walking through, I had to buy this course and this course, and this course, and I did this, I did this. I lost money here, I have some bankruptcy, I did this. I started going through all the story about how I learned and how I earned this framework. I went through the process and when they were done, when I was done telling that story, I was like, "Now you guys want to hear this?" And they're like, "Uh-huh, we're ready." I said, "Okay, step number one is this boom." And guess what? Nobody moved. Nobody got up, nobody left, nobody fell asleep because now they respected the pearl that I was trying to give to them. The first step when you are teaching your framework, step number one is you have to tell the story about how you learned it or earned it. If you do not tell the story about how you learned or earned it, they will not respect what you are about to give them. This is the pre-frame that gets them prepared to be worthy of the thing you're trying to give them. This increases the perceived value. Now they're like, "Oh, my gosh he went through all this pain and suffering and torture to get this thing for me, I'm gonna pay attention to it now." So step number one, you tell them the story about how you learned you learned or earned it. Step number two, now here's where you teach them the strategy. The strategy is the overarching thing. What I'm doing today, this is strategy. This is me mapping out. Here's the strategy of how to do it. I'm teaching this strategy so you understand the concept. Let’s say I'm an army general and I got always these warriors about to go to war, and if I don't tell them the strategy first, like, "Hey, you go over here, you go over here." And start giving them the tactics about where they're gonna go. People were like, "Why am I going over here? This makes no sense." Most of them aren't gonna follow you. You want people to follow you into war. The first thing I do is explain to them here's the strategy, here's what we are trying to do. When they understand the strategy, now it's like, "Hey, here's the tactics, you go over here, you go over here." Like, "Okay, I'm going over here because I'm part of this. I understand the strategy." So next thing you do is you have to share them the strategy. Do you guys notice that every single day is I'm going live here, what am I doing? I'm teaching you guys the strategy of that part of the framework. I'm not going to the tactics. The homework does the tactics. The homework is like, "Let me log into one pager and do thing." Let me log into ClickFunnels and show you step one and set like, okay, here, I'm showing you the strategy. If you believe in the strategy, then you're gonna go and do anything it takes to go and fulfill on the tactics. If I just give you the tactics though, you're gonna be lost. So I teach you the strategy. After you understood the strategy, then number three now here's where you give them the tactics. The tactics are like, "Okay, let me show how to do it." Step number one, you gotta go do this. Step number two, like tactics are college. If you're dentist it's like let me teach you how to clean teeth or how to do the thing. The tactics are like the actual, the deep dive, the step-by-step, here's step one, here's step two, here's step three. We're showing them the thing. Tactics are less sexy, but they're the things that people need to be able to the job done. And then the fourth thing after the tactics, then the last thing here , excuse me, is then we show them case studies. Like let me show you how this works in other people's lives 'cause this gives them belief of like, "oh, my gosh, this does work. I see how it works now in practical application" So this is my framework for how to teach frameworks. So for you guys, when you go tonight and you're like, "Hey, I need to build a framework." You're gonna go build out your framework, your step-by-step process. You going to put it into one page. We have like the things in one page, they've got all this stuff they need but then you got to teach them this framework. You gotta make a video of you showing here's how I learned or earned it. Here's the overarching strategy. Go in the one page down below and fulfill all the tactics. And in some cases, people have done it. This is how you do it. If you look at any chapter in my books, this is what I do. "Dotcom Secrets", chapter one, guess what I do? The secret formula, first thing I do I start with me telling the story about how I learned or earned this concept. It was 11:27 a.m. on a Monday morning, no matter what I told myself, I just couldn't get out of bed. I tell the story about how I learned or earned the secret formula. Then I told them the strategy, then I walk up through the tactics and they share a case study about how the whole thing works. That's chapter one. They go chapter two, what's chapter two, the value ladder. What do I do? I first tell the dentist story of how I learned or earned it. Then I walked through the strategy. I walked through the tactics or a case study, that's chapter two. I go to chapter three, guess how I do it? Boom. How I learned or earned it, teach the strategy, show them the tactics, do a case study. That's book one, book two, book three. That's how this whole process works over and over and over and over and over again. That's my framework for how to teach frameworks. I do it in a book, I do it in a course. I've done it today for crying out loud. I just come in here like, "Hey, guys let me go and show you guys how to build the framework." How many stories have I told you about how I learned or earned these different pieces? The strategies, things like that. That's the principle. So this is where we have to start learning how to do. And that is kind of, I think that's the last thing I want to share. All right. How you guys feeling? Are you excited so far? I want you guys to actually pull up the one pager, scroll up really quick. So this is the one pager we're gonna be giving you guys right now. The guys in the background, if you guys can scroll it up so I can see the very top of the page here, that'd be awesome. Hopefully we get them. There we go. So this is the one pager I'm gonna give you. Now, this one pager just you guys are fully aware in all transparency. This one pager is my framework for how to create a lead magnet. I just taught you the strategy. I've told you is how I learned or earned it. I tell you guys the strategy. This framework is gonna be the tactics. And so what's gonna happen. You're gonna see here's the strategy right here. Here's how you create one pager account and then it's gonna walk you through the tactics. Step number one, who is your dream customer? I taught you the guys the strategy behind that. The tactics you start typing in, your typing what is it gonna be? Step number two, what's the ultimate results. Step number three, what's the core results. Step number four, pick one core result in the three five splints results. Step number five, pick your splinter result. In the seven or six, you're gonna go to one page and actually do it. And I got my second framework down here. This the framework, how to use frameworks? You're gonna fill it out like how did you earn this framework? You're gonna share with people. Explain the strategy, walk through tactics, show the case study. So this one page is going to give you the tactics of how to fulfill on everything we've talked about today. I want to walk through these so you can understand what we did say was strategy, this is tactics. A lot of people confused like what's the response tactics and strategy. Here, I'm helping you cast the vision of like, "Oh, this is what we're doing." And then over here now, now we're getting to work. Now, we're doing the things. Just go back to the very top real quick. The other thing is that every single one page has a video. This video right here is me doing the tactics. You're gonna see me click on the button or when you click play on this, you're gonna see going. I actually go into a one pager. I build the thing out. I show you like here's step one, here's step two like this is lit, just like yesterday, this is me in my house doing the homework assignment with you. So you can see me doing the tactical like doing every single thing. Here's step one, here's step two. And so literally you can just watch me and just model it. And so for you guys what I recommend doing is going into one pager as you do this, you take whatever framework you decided, you're gonna plug into one pager, and this video teach kind of how to do that. And then when it's done, you need to record yourself teaching it and you don't have to, you can take videos away in one pager but I highly recommend if you can make a one pager and plugging a video of you teaching this right here. And literally like, this is my one pager for how to make waffle dough at home or whatever. It's about one pager about how to get more clients into my massage cling. This is my one pager about how to publish your music as a band. This is whatever your thing is. Create one pager and then the video is basically you can go through this. This is Russell, let me tell you a story about how I learned and I earned this framework for you. And some people ask, "What's interesting to learn?" Learn the stuff that you learn by trial and error or excuse me, learning, you learned from somebody like from a teacher or a mentor or you read a book or a course or whatever. I talk about learning and I always give credit where credit's due. If I learned something to somebody else I always tell people that. And that earned it is like I earned it through my own blood, sweat and tears. So how did you discover this framework that you're sharing with them? Tell that story. And then explain the overarching strategy, just what's happened, this is why it's so cool. Here's the tactics. And then actually do the assignment with them. Go through the one page like here's step one, here's step two, do that. And show cases of how you've done that people in past. Record that video and then plug it in boom, right there. And it's simple, easy to do. Some of you guys who've never done a video before, this will be kind of scary and it's okay 'cause right now nobody's gonna see this besides you. You can get your iPhone click record like, "Hey, my name's Russell." And just go through this as well. It doesn't need to be professional or anything, just teach the framework. And that video of you teach the framework gets plugged right here. And now when they come here, they got the framework they've got the video teaching them, showing them this here. And then down below you got the actual one pager that's gonna be the framework for them. And so that's kind of the game plan. And so this right here, this one page is gonna teach you guys how to actually build your one pager, your lead magnet in one pager, which is kind of cool. Now, one page deciding is just went live today. This is a new software product. There's probably gonna be some bugs and some issues. Like yesterday you guys all downloaded the one-pagers from yesterday. And we had, I think it was like, I can't remember eight or 9,000 people download it one in one minute. And from that they have like two or 3 million hits to the database. And it was the first time we'd ever actually launched this before. And it kind of crashed a couple times, so you guys may have seen that. So this is a new product. It literally went live today. There's gonna be some issues and things, let us know we're working on making it better but it is insanely cool. As you will see, all my one-pagers for this training have been built in it and he doesn't have a chance to build it. We all set up so you can create your very first one pager for free. So if you're like, "I don't have any money, Russell." That's cool. Just you follow the process, the software that you create your first one for free. So you get one lead magnet is completely free. You can build it, mess it up, delete it, start over until you've got it perfected and understood. And now you've got a tangible thing. You've turned your framework from just a random framework into something tangible. Now, this framework, this core concept that I have, now it's a framework now I can actually give this analysis a tangible thing. I can give somebody this in exchange for their email address. And that's the secret, that's the power. So under it now I'm gonna have my team put the link down below for you guys get your day number two homework assignment. And links there it is right there, 5dayleadchallenge.com/lead magnet. It'll redirect to this page right here. After the page, you can save it into your one page account and then go and do the assignment. Watch the video, do the things, fill it out, brainstorm, fill in the forms. I don't just like my dream clients this like think through it, spend some time. Go deep in this, by the time you're done, if you finish this assignment, but time is done, you're gonna have your first one pager. I promise you the very first time it can be frustrating. It's new, it's like, in fact, it's funny. I built six one pagers this weekend for this training. I built day one, day two, day three. Day one I built it I was like, "This is kind of cool, but it looked ugly." And then day two I got better. Day three I got better. By day four like my one-page looks so awesome. I was like, "Oh, I hate day one now." So I went back to day number one, I deleted the whole thing, I started over. And now day one is yes, I actually looked awesome. And I redid day two, which just say now day two looks awesome. And I keep like, as you keep doing this you'll get better and better and better. But even like looking at my one-pagers look at the one I gave you yesterday, look at the one I'm giving you guys yesterday. And like, this will give you ideas like, "Oh, what you could do like, oh, I could do that. I could try that." And you can just kind of play with it a little bit. And that's kinda how it works. So again, the link down below, 5dayleadchallenge.com/lead magnet. We'll give you the one pager, spend some time today and tonight actually creating a one pager. We need that because tomorrow, day number three in my process to help you guys get the result of getting unlimited leads, day number three is now we got to build your lead funnel. And so if you build your lead funnel, we have to have the lead magnet. So build lead magnet today. Again, you can edit it in the future. You can change, this does not have to be perfect. Just kind of play with it, put it in there. And then tomorrow we build lead funnel. We'll be taking this lead magnet you build, we'll be plugging into the funnel and now you'll have something you can like send people to, they'll give you their email address. You'll get in the lead magnet and your business start growing. That sound good? I hope this helps you guys. I had so much fun today. I said this was the day I was most excited to teach. I hope that you've got tons of value, information. Hope you guys understand all these pieces. Now, your game plan is to go get the one pager get started on it and then we'll see you guys back here tomorrow, same time, same place to go into day number three of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. Thank you guys so much for participating, for showing up. Do not be late tomorrow. We're going to go again and we'll see you guys all tomorrow. Thanks everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Creating Your Lead Magnet (Onepager) - FDLC: Day 2 of 5 full 513 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is day 2 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to . Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. Welcome... This is day 2 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you enjoyed our last episode, which was day number one of the Five Day Lead Challenge. Today, we are moving into day number two. And again, this is a recording from a live event I did that you can go and get the actual videos if you want to see them, you can download the one pagers and get the homework assignments all those things for free. All you do is go to fivedayleadchallenge.com. You can get those things. I'm going to play day number two for you right now. And day number two is all about creating your lead magnet. What is the thing you can create that's going to get people to come from Facebook, or Google, or YouTube, or Instagram, or whatever, and actually give you their email address. And the better your lead magnet is the more people will give you their email address. So we're talking about how to create good lead magnets, what they look like. And then I'm actually going to be talking about one of my favorite software tools, second only to click funnels, and it's called one pager. One pager is how I create most of my lead magnets as you guys have probably seen. Again, there'll be parts of this that I'll be demoing stuff on a screen that you won't be able to see here on the audio podcast. But if you want to go see the video version and get the one pager, and the homework, and assignments, and things like that. Again, all you got to do is go to fivedayleadchallenge.com. So that said, I hope you guys enjoyed day number two, Creating Your Lead Magnet. Welcome back to day number two of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. Are you guys half as excited as I am? I'm not gonna lie of all the five days, this is the one that I've been looking forward to the most the teaching, the coaching and walking guys through, this one is gonna be so much fun. And so I'm pumped to see all you guys, thank you so much for hanging out with us today. Hopefully, you all had a chance yesterday to watch day number one. Day number one, the goal of that was to kinda give you guys a broad overview of this is what the process is, what the system is, what the frameworks look like, and today we're actually gotta get our hands dirty and start building something which is exciting. And so I'm pumped to be here with you guys. Thank you so much for hanging out with us, thank you for everybody who's been sharing these videos. I think before he pulled up, there was like almost 300 people that shared the videos already on social, these lives, thank you for sharing it. If you know anybody else who should be here, please tag them in the comments down below, and that way we can get more people coming and hanging out for this. Like I told you guys yesterday, over 35,000 of you guys registered to be part of this. We had over 11,000 people on live yesterday between Zoom and Facebook and YouTube, and then over 9,000 of you guys watched the replays, so this is amazing. This is like such a huge honor for me. So today's the day, like I said though, I'm most excited for. Today we're gonna be going into actually creating your lead magnet, your one pager and it's gonna be a lot of fun. But before I get too deep into that, I spent time yesterday looking through all of the tens of thousands of comments and questions, I also talked to a lot of you guys who were on and who had questions and stuff like that. So I wanna do a couple of things just kinda help and make sure that we're bridging this gap before I dive deep into the fun stuff I've got prepared for you guys today. Does that sound good? Okay, so the first thing I wanted to do, a lot of people, especially people who're kinda in different types of businesses were asking me about like how does this work Russell? Like I understand I need leads for my business. You talked about email list, you build a big list, you can send emails to but like, how does this work for my specific business? And so I wrote down a couple of different ones I wanted to kinda give some case studies and examples for, okay. So the first one I talk about, this is for like a traditional business. It's like a brick and mortar company. So I got a couple of good examples of this. One of them, one of my friends actually told me this story, he lives down in Florida and he is a guy who is like me, builds big email lists and stuff. And one night he went to order pizza, this is pre-COVID stuff, so you could still go and hang out and eat with people. And he goes to the pizza place and he sits down and he's waiting for the pizza guy to finish cooking his pizza and give it to him. And it's the local shop, so it's not like a big chain, it's just like a local dude who has got a pizza shop and having a lot of fun. And he starts asking my buddy like, "So what do you do for a living?" And he's like, "Oh, I'm an internet nerd, and this is what I do." And the guy was like, "Well, how do what you do work for me? Like I don't understand, I'm a pizza place. How do I use the internet, like how does actually work for me?" And so my friend came back to him and said, "Okay, well, let's do an experiment." He said, "Right now how are you getting leads? How do you get new people coming into the store?" And he said, "Well, word of mouth, we've got a yellow page ad, we were in some newspaper ads." They had some things they were using to drive leads in. And he said, "Okay, what I want you to do for the next 30 days, is we're gonna do an experiment. Okay, so for the next 30 days, when people come into your store is I want you to give them a lead magnet." He's like, "What's a lead magnet?" He said, "Well, in your case, a lead magnet for your pizza place is give people say, if you give me your email address I'm gonna give you a free topping, I'm gonna give you a free drink or something." And he's like, "Find something you can give them in exchange for their contact information." And the guy is like, "Okay, what am I gonna do with this like just right now for 30 days just get their contact information, I'll come back in 30 days and I'll show you step two in the plan." So the guy is like, "All right." So he put up a little sign that said, "Give me your email address, put your business card in here and we'll give you a free," I can't remember, "Free topping or something." And so the guy did that for 30 days. And at the end of 30 days, my friend came back to his place and the time he had 600 email addresses that got collected in the last 30 days. And my friend said, "Okay, now I'm gonna show you the next step in this process. These people came in, these are all leads, but these leads, we're gonna put them into an email list. Okay, we've got 600 leads." So he took them, he went and he set them into an email list. And we'll talk about how to do this actually on day number four. But he uploaded all these leads to an email list, and he said, "Why don't you use every single day at four o'clock, when people are still at work, they'll be getting ready to think like, "What's my dinner plans?" And he's like, "I want you to send them an email. And all the email is gonna say is, "Hey, it's four o'clock. and a lot of you guys are thinking about what you're gonna have for dinner, if you want, I can have a pizza ready for you in the next hour. Just call this number right here and I will have your pizza ready and you can come drive by and pick it up on your way home." So that's what he told him and said, "Every single day at four o'clock send that same email. You can tweak it if you want, but just regardless, send out the same email every single day." So the guy was like, "Okay, I'm gonna do that." And then my friend said, "I wanna test something though," and he's like, "I need you to set two phone numbers, it's gonna show you like, how much more valuable this is and all the other advertising you're doing." And the guy said, "Okay." So he had all the other advertising would go to one phone number. So the yellow pages, the radio ads, the newspaper, everything would go to one phone number. Then the email list went to a separate phone number, and I want you to track over the next 30 days, every day send out this email, and then I want you to see how many leads or how many customers came in from your email list versus all the other types of advertising you're doing. So then, okay, so he did that and he starts sending emails once every single day, every single day, four o'clock, send the same email send the same email, the guy didn't even edit the email. He just like copied and pasted it every single day. And after 30 days my friend came back and said, "Okay, what are the stats?" And the guy said, "It's crazy." He said, "My company has been so busy." He's like, "My best customers keep coming back." Before they'd come once or twice a quarter. Now, they come back once or twice a week to buy from me 'cause I'm putting these messages out in front of them. He said, "I did the math." He said, "Right now for every one phone call I'm getting from all my other advertising efforts, I'm getting four phone calls from my email list." And that's the power of it. So that's how it works for traditional local business. I had another friend who runs a gym. And he was actually my trainer for a couple of years and we're hanging out and we were lifting weights and he was telling me how to do stuff. And he's like, "So how would your internet stuff work for someone like me, I've got a gym?" I was like, "You know what?" And he was like "My Facebook ads, how's it gonna work?" I'm like, "Well, you can do that but let's go with the low hanging fruit." I'm like, "Do you have a list?" He's like, "What's a list?" I'm like, "Okay, do you have any leads?" He's like, "Kind of, not really." I said, "Okay, well, do you have dead files?" He's like, "What's a dead file?" I'm like, "A dead file is someone who came into your business at one point and that you have their contact information. They either trained with you, they didn't and they left, but you have their contact information, their email, right?" He's like, "Oh yeah, I've got tons. I have a whole filing cabinet full of those." I said, "Okay, this weekend, we're you to grab all those and put them all on an Excel sheet like the name and email address of all the people. And on Monday, I'm gonna show you guys the magic trick. I'm gonna show you magic trick." He's like, "Okay." So that weekend he went through his dead files, he put everyone's name, email on the list. He came back and on Monday I was like, "Well, how many do you have?" He said, "I had a little over 300 people." I said, "Okay, let me show you a magic trick. I'm gonna fill up your gym completely off nothing but your dead files." And he's like, "How does that work?" I said, "Watch this." So I took his 300 names, we put them in email list and I sent an email to that list. I said something, it was towards the new year. I said, I think the subject line I tried to get it, he wouldn't let me do this. But subject line was, "Are you fat again?" He was like, "I think it's gonna offend some people." I'm like, "Okay." We wrote an email basically saying, "Hey, one time you came in the gym, but you're no longer here. Right now, we got a special offer where you can come in like do free training session and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." He sent the email to just the dead files. The 300 some people who come in at one point. From that, he got 60 new clients to call him on the phone, come in and do a session and completely filled up his gym. And I came back to him like two or three weeks later, I was like, "Hey, ready for step two." He was like, "No, he's like, my gym's filled. There's nothing else like all my sessions are filled. I can't do anything else." All from just an email list. Can we just understand this is the power of your traditional business, how these email lists work. Oh, just to get the wheels spinning 'cause everyone's like, "Oh, I don't wanna a pizza place, Russell. Or I don't run. I don't run a gym. This works in any business. We had a girl that used to live by us. And I think she was 14 and 15 years old. And she was a babysitter. And I don't know about you guys, but for me it's like every weekend, it's like, "Oh, I want to go dance with my wife and I need to call a babysitter." And like all these things, it's like, ha, so frustrating. So we found this one babysitter, she was awesome. But the problem was she was in high demand. So like, and I didn't know why at the time it was like we'd get her one time and it would be hard to get her back and forth. And then one day when she started doing it was crazy, every Friday at about noon we would get a text message. This text message went out to us and probably 10 or 15 other families who she used, who would babysit. And she would text, excuse me. She said, "Hey, this is so-and-so." Excuse me she said, "I'm open to babysit tonight and tomorrow night, if you're interested text me back, first come first serve." And I get that text every Friday at like noon. And as soon as I came in, I'm like, "Oh." And I try to reserve my time. And she was booked up every Friday, every Saturday she had babysitting lined up every single week for the first, like it was insane because she had this list of five or six families, 10 families, whatever it was that she babysat for. And every week she sent the message out reminding them like, "Hey, I can babysit tonight." We're like, "Oh, thank heaven, I'm not gonna call a babysitter. I can like, this is great." And like that fast, she fill up her schedule just from her tiny email list of like 15, 20 people. So that's kind of how this process works. Oh, I'm gonna show you guys an example. Another one, a lot of people are like, "Well, I'm a network marketer, I'm a network marketer. How does this work for me?" So network marketers, a lot of times people in network marketing or affiliate marketing like this doesn't work because I don't have my own product, Russell. I don't have my own frameworks, I don't have these things. And I'm gonna show you guys about frameworks a lot today. But just think, for example, let's just say one of the network marketing companies I'm really familiar with is Proven. I do a lot of work with those guys and Proven is a product that helps people get their body in ketosis. So it's like, what if let's say that that's your product? That's the result that your company offers. So like what if you went and created a lead magnet it's gonna show that here's my number one recipe and how to get my number one keto recipe or here's 12 ways to get in keto faster or whatever. You make a lead magnet like that and you start driving traffic. I'm gonna show you guys here and you get a list of 10, 50, 100 people, 500 people, who are all downloaded your one-pager, your lead magnet, about how to get your body in ketosis or whatever it is. And now if the product you sell, is it something that's related to getting people in ketosis. Now, you can send emails to that list and say, "Hey, we have a special promotion happening. Hey, we have a sample going on. Hey, we have this thing." And you send emails lists to get people excited. This works in any company. I think about doTERRA is another company. doTERRA Essential Oils. What if I made a one page or a lead magnet? It's like, "Hey, here's six essential oils to help build up your immunity during COVID-19." That becomes a lead magnet. I send out, people start opting in and building this list of people who are learning essential oils. Now, I've got a list of my dream customers. Now, you send emails, getting them to sign up and become a distributor underneath me. See how this works like there's so many use cases and so many ways. Again, you'll see more ways to here in a minute. E-commerce, let's say you're e-commerce, so you're like, "Hey, I'm an e-commerce, Russell. I don't understand this whole list building thing." Well, let's just say, let's pick your e-commerce store, let's say you are selling camping stuff. So let's say e-com and your market is camping. So let's say I sell camping gear. I sell tents, I sell, I don't know, mess kits, I sell camping stuff. I don't even know what camping people do. I'm not a camper. But let's say I've got those camping e-com store. What if I make a lead magnet that's like, "Hey, the six best places in the United States to go camping or the five things you must have to be able to go camping." And sleep , talking about camping stuff. My dream customers, people interest in camping buy that or excuse me, opt-in to give me the email address. I build a list of 1,000, 2,000, 5,000 people interested in camping. And now it's the emails like, "Oh, by the way, have you seen my new camping thing, have you seen this, have you seen this?" And you can sell them the products in your store. So again, it works for every business. You have to kind of think a little bit about how to bridge that gap for yourself so hopefully some of those examples will get the wheels in your head spinning. I just wanted to start that way 'cause I know some of you guys a lot of people were like, "This is awesome, Russell. That's not gonna work for my specific business." It works for every business. I promise you that. If your business needs leads, it'll work for it. You just got to think outside the box. Like what is the lead magnet I have it's going to get my dream customers to come to me. So that's the first thing I want to share to kind of bridge the gap. Now with that, we'll start diving into the frameworks I wanna share with you guys today. Are you guys ready for this? We're gonna go, I think I got three frameworks I'm gonna go deep into that I'm excited to share with you guys. Anyway, I think you're gonna love them. So the first thing I want to start with, I kind of touched upon this yesterday, but I wanna go a lot deeper in it. So every single business, I don't care what business you're in. The first thing you have to ask yourself, step number one it's always figuring out who. Who is your dream customer? Who is the person that you've been called to serve? A lot of these people are like, "Oh, businesses is business." Like no, no, no. Businesses are all about serving certain group of clients. My business, I'm obsessed with helping entrepreneurs. So my dream clients are entrepreneurs, people who are starting their own businesses. People who want to change the world. That's my dream client. I have a very clear picture of who that person is. So my first question for you is, who is your dream client? Not like who's the random person who sees your ad and comes into the door. Who is your dream client? Who is the person that if you could work with them all day long, you do it for free because you love that person so much. That's what you gotta be thinking through. Who is your dream client? That's the first step in here. And you have to become crystal clear on who that person is. If you don't know who they are it gets really hard to attract them. If I'm like, "Oh, I'm just trying to get customers. I don't know." If you do that, you're gonna attract random people off the street. But if you know exactly who you are looking for, it gets really easy to attract that person. And I could go on for days. In fact, if you read the "DotCom Secrets" book, the very first section, I talk a lot about this. Like who's your dream customer, you gotta figure out who that person is. So that's the first step, who's my dream customer. The second thing it says that every business is in the job, I don't care what business you're in, your goal is to figure out who your dream customer and then get that person a certain result. Like that's the goal. So I don't know who is. And the second question is, here's this big journey they're going on up the mountain. And the second thing is what is the result that I am getting for them. Now, in most businesses there's a lot of different types of results. Right now I think like what's a certain result that you can get for your dream customer. So think about, it's like let's say your dentist. So my dream client are people local area who want straight teeth, that's my dream client. What's the result I get for them? I help them get straight, clean white, beautiful teeth. That's the result I get somebody. If you are a masseuse, who's your dream client? It's somebody who's trying to get in good shape, someone who's trying to get their body in shape and things like that. There's your dream client. What's the result you're getting for them? I'm getting out of pain, helping them to be more relaxed and help do whatever the thing is. There's a result I have for them. If you are any business, like for example, right now before I started this whole 5 Day Challenge, my question was who are my dream clients? My dream clients, people are trying to figure out how in the world to get leads for their business. What's the result I wanna get people? I want to show them exactly how to build out a lead magnet, a squeeze page funnel, and drive traffic so they can start getting leads, like that's the result I wanted to give people when they started on this path. So for you those are the two first questions, who's your dream client? And what is the major result you're trying to get for them? And now you stop for a second, say, "Okay, that's the major result I want to try to get for somebody." So then the question is, what is the step-by-step process to get them the result? You've been on this path before. You've already gotten this result. If you haven't gotten this result, you're not in the business of getting people that result. That way if you haven't achieved the thing you're trying to promise people you're going to help them with, you shouldn't be in that business. So if you're trying to help them get result means you've already gotten that result for yourself. So the question then is, well, what were the steps for you to get the result? What was the first thing you had to do to get towards that result? What was the second thing you did? What was the third thing you did? What was the fourth thing you did? What was the fifth thing you did? What were all the steps you did to get that result? So think for a second, what were the things? Here's a 5 Day Lead Challenge, guess what my results were? For number one I had to create a lead magnet. Number two, after lead magnet I created a lead funnel. After lead funnel I had to create an email sequence to build a relationship with the list. I thought I'd launched my funnel, get traffic coming in. And then so these were the steps I had to do to get leads into my business. So before I did this whole training I sat down saying "What's the framework I need to teach people? What are the step-by-step process that I have to show people to do to get the same result that I got." So I take those step-by-step things and I create what I call a framework. And a framework is just the step-by-step process. In framework say step number one, you do this. Set number two, you do this. Step three, four, five, six. And like I walk some people through the actual framework. You call it a framework we call it the recipe. Like this is the recipe. If my results to make a cake, what's the first step making cake. What's the second, what's the third, what's the four? It's not difficult to make a cake when you've got the recipe. Your job as a business is to help people. Your basically you're creating a recipe to get your dream customer a certain result. That's all it is. Every business, I don't care what business you're in. You offer people result and you have some kind of framework, some kind of proprietary framework or recipe or process or something you take somebody through to get the result. That framework, that process is what I'm gonna call your framework, like I call them a framework. But it's a framework. It's a step-by-step process. This is the thing that becomes your lead magnet. And I'll go deeper 'cause people are like, "Well, what?" I do a lot of results, what's the right one? I'll show you guys that here in a few minutes but this is the first key is the framework. As I do in notes here today, I was mapping out some businesses I wanted to share examples for anyone, 'cause again, people always like how's this work for my specific business? So here's a framework. So let's just say your dentist. Your dentist, your dream client is somebody who's trying to get straight white teeth. That's the result they want. So what's step-by-step process? Step number one, you've got to brush your teeth twice a day, morning, night. Step number two, you've got to floss. Step number three, you've got to use mouthwash. Step number four, you gotta use teeth whiter. Step number five, you gotta come to the dentist. Step number six, and you have a step-by-step process to get in that result. So if you're a dentist that's the framework. That becomes the lead magnet to get somebody to come in. Let's say you are selling a ketogenic diet or you're network marketing program is selling ketogenic things. So let's say your dream clients are people trying to lose weight. You lost weight, how'd you do it? Here's a step-by-step process I used to lose weight on the keto diet or the paleo diet or the whatever you're thing is. Here's my step-by-step process. That becomes the framework now that you're going to share with people. Oh, I was going to show you some examples. So some of the products I've created throughout the years. My very first product ever created somebody hasn't heard about this one was my how to make potato gun. All this was me saying, who's my dream clients? Somebody who wants to make a potato gun. What's the result? I'm going to use my potato gun. How to make potato gun? What's the step-by-step process? Step number one, you got to go to Home Depot and buy the pipe. Step number two, you got to cut the pipes to slice. Step number three, you got to get the glue. Step number four, and basically I wrote here's the framework of the step-by-step process to create a potato gun. I sat there with a video camera and I recorded myself teaching step one, two, three, four, but this was just a framework of how I made a potato gun. That's it and that became a product I could then sell or I could use as a lead magnet or I could use for a coaching program, whatever it is. But this framework is a step-by-step process to get a certain result. There's the result. Let's see, if you've read any of my books, all my books, these t's like "Dotcom Secrets" are all the frameworks of all the sales funnels, how to build sales funnels. Expert secrets is the frameworks on how you tell the stories to convert people inside your funnels. Traffic secrets are my frameworks to get traffic. If you look at one of my books, "Network Marketing Secrets." These are all my frameworks. If my dream client's a network marketer, the result is how to use funnels to get leads for network marketing. This book was my step-by-step framework to be able to do that. "30 Days", this is one of our products called 30days.com. And what I did is I interviewed 30 people and I asked them this question, I said, okay let's say you're going to a brand new complete newbie. Somebody who didn't know anything. So there's my who. And their goal is how did I build a business in 30 days using nothing but ClickFunnels? What would I do? And I had 30 people write a chapter saying, "Okay, well this is what I would do. My step would be step one, two, three, four and this is the process I would go through to get that result. I have 30 different people each write a chapter in here, telling me what their step-by-step result would be to help somebody who's brand new to the launch funnel inside of ClickFunnels in 30 days. I took all these, put them into a book and became a product. I could take one chapter out of this and that chapter could be lead magnet. Like let me show you how Liz Benny, her 30 day plan to go from beginner to startup. However, give me your email address, I'm going to give you Liz Benny's plan. I think one of those out in that framework is something that can become lead magnet. All right. So what a framework is. Does that make sense, you guys? And so all you guys have frameworks Everything we use has a framework. So I wanna start thinking like what are your frameworks? What could your frameworks be? 'Cause everyone's got them. So let me start thinking through that. And I'm going to show you guys in a minute how to pick the right framework 'cause my guess is you have more than one. Mostly guys have more than one result. You can get somebody. But the key there is you're creating a framework. Now, one thing that I'm excited for today you guys will learn about in your homework is how do you make that framework tangible? A lot of us have a framework. Oh, I have a process, how do I turn that into a lead magnet? How do I make it a tangible thing? How many of you yesterday downloaded the one pager I gave you? The one pager is my new favorite tool. As you can tell, I'm obsessed with. Every day of this challenge, you are getting a one pager and then I'm giving you a bonus one this weekend I created two. The one pager literally all it is is it's taking this framework you created and it's making it tangible. It's tangible where somebody could actually take it. They can give you their email address, you can give them something. So one pager is a way to take your framework and then turn it into something you can give people. And again, your homework summit tonight is gonna a chance to actually take your framework and you're gonna build out one page or so. When it's done, you've got this amazing one pager here where it's got your entire framework built out. Like I said you guys got one yesterday. One of my one-pagers yesterday is an example. I'm gonna give you another one today and you'll see it as an example of an actual framework. In fact, back in the house, guys let's pull up the framework for today. So this is the framework I'm gonna be giving you guys tonight for your homework and I'm not gonna go through it now. But if you scroll down really, really quickly, this is basically thinking day two's framework the step-by-step process and it's all in here. So I took my framework and I made it tangible by turning to one pager. Now, I'm gonna give all you guys. So my goal for you guys is the same kind of thing, is you're gonna take this framework you're creating or make it tangible by turning into a one pager then you can give somebody when they give you their email address. All right. One other thing. Oh yeah. One other thing as well as we're talking about frameworks, this is happening more than I think most of you guys realize, more than I realize. And it's, I want you guys to see it. If you watch the way that I teach or the way the products I sell, the things I'm doing all the time, they're always frameworks. Everything I'm doing is a framework and "Dotcom Secrets there's probably 30 different frameworks I share. Expert secrets is probably 22 different frameworks. Travel secrets is like 40 frameworks. They're just different frameworks I'm teaching people and they're all in there. How many guys know what's these right here? This is the manual for Unleash the Power Within. So this is interesting. So 10 years ago I went to Unleash the Power Within, Tony Robbins event, actually probably 12 years ago now. First time I met him in person was in this event was really, really cool. And as I went through this four day event I remember just being blown away. I was like, "This is the most amazing thing in the world." Like, I don't know how Tony does this. How's he gonna stay for 50 hours straight without any notes and teach all of this kind of stuff. And like has these trans these things where he's transforming people's lives like was just the most amazing thing. I felt like almost like "The Wizard of Oz." Like how is he doing this? I have no idea how he's making this whole thing happen. It was so cool to see. And so that was kind of the thing. And then 10 years later, 12 years later, UPW went virtual, And so I wanted my kids to experience this so we signed up, my wife, my kids, we all did together. We got the workbooks and we sat down and Tony got onstage. Virtual stage, day number one, he started teaching. And as he was teaching, really quickly, I was looking at his whole teaching through a different lens than I typically did. In the past, 10, 12 years ago, the first time with UPW I was just like, "This is amazing. I don't really see what happening." Now, 12 years later I've had enough experience. I was like, "I want to study not so much what he's teaching, but how he's teaching. Like, what's his process? Like how does this actually work? And day one, he started teaching and all of a sudden he started teaching and he broke out his very first framework and he start teaching his very first framework. There was a result he was trying to teach us and he walked us through his first framework. And I was like, "Interesting." So what I did is I opened up my notebook and the very first page here I wrote down the framework. The framework was called three levels of mastery. The result that Tony was trying to get everybody at UPW is let me show you how to master something, how to gain mastery. He said there's three steps to it. Step number one is this, step number two is, and step number three is this. He spent like 45 minutes teaching three levels of mastery. And I was like, "Cool." And then he all of a sudden, he went to the next framework. He said, "Okay, next framework." He didn't say it this way. Next thing is the three mandates of leadership. I'm gonna teach you guys the result, how to become a leader. He said there's three mandates of leadership. Step number one is this, step two is this, step three is this and he went on. I wrote down that. There's a second frame he taught three mandates of leadership. And all of a sudden Tony went from there to the next one. He said, "Okay, I'll teach you guys my success cycle." Boom the result, how to be successful. Here's the step-by-step process for the success cycle. And then he went on the next one and it was the three decisions that changed your life. He said, "Here's the result, I'm going to show you guys how to change your life." Here's the three decisions, boom, boom, boom. Then he went, the three patterns of focus and meaning. How to change the meaning in your life. How to change your meaning, you change the meaning change life. Here's the three patterns of focus. And then the two primary fears. You're struggling, you have these fears. Here's your primary fear, how to break them. Number three, the three ways to grow a business, boom, boom, boom. The two ways to master skills, the three forces of creation, the three chunks of practical psychology. The three things that cause suffering, the tried, the three molders of meaning and then the six human needs. And I watched it. That was day one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 13. So day number one at UPW, Tony went through 13 different frameworks. This is how Tony is able to get up and speak for 50 hours without notes. He's like, "I have my frameworks, I know what they are and I'm just gonna go through them in order." Step number one, I'm gonna teach you guys the three levels of mastery. Step number two, the three mandates of leadership. Step number three, the success cycle and on, and on, boom. That was day number one, UPW. Day number two, he had a whole another set of frameworks. Day number three, a whole another set of frameworks. Day number four, a whole another set. All you guys have frameworks to do the thing that you do. You just didn't know what it was. First time I watched Tony speak I was so mesmerized. I didn't understand and all of a sudden, the second time I felt like it was like "The Wizard of Oz." Like I saw the guy behind the curtain like, "Oh, he's just he's got a whole bunch of frameworks that are amazing and he's teaching them like that that's the secret." A lot of guys like "No, I think people see things, no you don't." You went to dental school and somebody taught you a result. You learned the skill set and you came back and now you follow the step-by-step framework to get people's teeth cleaned or you're an orthodontist and you know how to get the results like get people see straight. That's what I do, no, no. All you did is you went to college, you learned a framework, you came back and now you apply that framework to get people see straight. Every business you're in that's all it is. You have a dream customer, they want a result. You know how to give them that result. You went through the process, you paid the price. At one point you did it either through school or through learning for somewhere. Somehow you learn that thing and now you're helping through the process. That's it, that's the game, you guys. You have to understand that you have these frameworks. And so that is the key to building out lead magnets is the key to creating products, is the key to creating services, is the key to creating everything is understanding that you have frameworks and start looking for them. So I to show you that 'cause I want you to see like that's what everyone's doing, that's what I'm doing, that's what Tony's doing, we have our frameworks we teach them, we show them. So my frameworks come in training like this So I take my frameworks I develop them into software. Some people create framework, they turn those frameworks into supplements. Here's the supplements to take, to get the result I want. Some people doing the coaching, we do consulting Some people do with actual physical products like every single business is that. Think about a restaurant, what's the result in the restaurant? My dream client, somebody's hungry, I'm going to feed them this food. They're gonna feel happy. What's the step-by-step process? They come in, we feed them this, we do this, we take it. And here's the process we go through. So all you guys have frameworks. The value you have is your frameworks. So when you start thinking through that through a different lens and somebody's like I don't have frameworks yet. I promise you do. You just haven't started identifying. This is your job to start breaking down like what are my frameworks? What are the things I know how to do? When I create my potato gun DVD I didn't know it was a framework. I just knew how to build a potato gun. So I made a product teaching it. Looking back I was like, "Oh." I built the frame. I built a potato gun so I had a result. I just wanted to replicate so I walked into the process now everyone can build a potato gun. There's a recipe it's really simple to do. All right. So this is the key. You guys understand that? So next question is like Tony had 13 different results and frameworks for day one. Like what's what frameworks should I be using? That's the big question. So let me come back. And so what I want to talk about is there's this path of you taking your dream customer on a journey and there's different results you can give somebody. There's like big results. Like if you look at my mission, my mission is to help entrepreneurs like you to grow their companies through sales funnels. That's the big result. Like that's the ultimate result I want to get for somebody. There's a lot of sub results underneath that. And so what I did the other day I was kind of mapping this out as I was preparing to teach you, how do you break this down in a way it's simple for people? So think about like for you with your clients, there's the ultimate result. So this is the thing, ultimate result. So for me my ultimate result is gonna help you grow your company through sales funnels. The problem typically with an ultimate result it's a big goal, it's awesome. But guess what? It's typically not a very sexy hook. If I was like, "I'm gonna teach you guys how to grow your company with sales funnels." Like, "Is that hook good?" It's like, "Oh, it's okay but it's not like great." Typically our ultimate result we're trying to get somebody is not like the sexiest most exciting thing in the world 'cause it's so broad, it's so big, it's just not that tangible. 35,000 people who would not have registered for this event, if I was like, "Hey, if you sign for this 5 Day Event I'll teach you how to grow your company with sales funnels." You're like, "Ah" So the ultimate results like this is what we're trying to take people. This is typically not what we're actually selling. Underneath this ultimate result, there's a whole bunch of what I call core results that we offer people. So you come down here and there's different core results. I'm gonna list a couple of them here and every business has these core results. So for me, like, for example, if my goal is to grow your company through sales funnels, so how do I do it? There's a lot of ways to do that. Well, one way, one core results that I could do that by teaching you guys how to build and launch a webinar, that's one way. Make sense. Another way I could do is like let me show you how to drive traffic into your funnels and that if you learn to drive traffic that'll lead to your ultimate result. Oh, another one is I'm gonna show you how to write copy, how to tell your stories. Another one is gonna be whatever. So I have these core results here. So this is the ultimate result. These are your core results, right here so you can see it, core results. That's the second thing here, so these are the core results. Now, typically you'll get in what most businesses, the core results, these become like your actual products. So I have a product teaching people how to grow a company with a webinar. Perfect webinars secrets, I teach people. Here's how to write a webinar and how to do sales page and how to do your webinar funnel, how to drive traffic, how to do leads, how to close the sale, like I have a cold course that teaches that. And so some people are coming here and like, "Oh, I want to learn about build a webinar that's way sexier." Then they coming here they're gonna buy the thing on webinars. Which ultimately is gonna help them to grow their company with sales funnels 'cause webinar is the type of funnel or traffic. That's the traffic secrets book. Traffic secrets, like if you have a funnel you need to get traffic to drive to grow your business. So I have this book, traffic secrets that teaches people how to get traffic which ultimately helps them with the ultimate result of trying to get you, which is how to grow your company's sales funnels. 'Cause traffic is one piece of that, copy is one piece that always things are piece of that. So think about your business. Like what is the ultimate result that you offer your clients? The end goal, the end-all be-all. I want to help people to transform their life I want to help people that whatever they thing might be. So now, break it down. Like, what are the four or five things they have to master or learn? What are the things that are the core results that they're gonna have to learn to be successful with this? So for me, typically, and by the way you can see this here, magic inside my books. First thing I have to learn is how to master funnels. I'm sure you've learned how to master copy inside the funnels. Number three, how to learn to get traffic. So like, if you were writing a trilogy like I did for your business, here's the ultimate result. What are the different books or products or things that are gonna help ultimately, help people to get that ultimate result? And again, I want you brainstorming through this and you're gonna be doing your homework down here. So I'm gonna have you say, "Here's the ultimate result, here's the core results." Now, the next step after that because this is where we're actually gonna be selling something. And actually when you guys decide to join the one funnel away challenge, actually next week we're doing one funnel challenge. We're starting over from scratch. I'm doing it live just like I'm doing this live. I'm gonna do it live for 30 days. It's a 30-day challenge. And in the 30-day challenge when we focus on taking one of these and actually building out an entire funnel to sell something. This challenge about generating leads. The next challenge is about actually selling something. So the one funnel away challenge I highly recommend you guys when this challenge is over to sign up for that one. Again, I go live on Monday but I'm going to teach, we're taking this and how to make a sales funnel selling one of your core results you offer somebody. But I'm gonna take more step further. So for your primary lead magnet, lead magnet, you're bringing in, I'm not using this as my lead magnet. I'm gonna go one more tier deep. So under webinar, it was a bunch of these splinter results. So I'm gonna call these splinter results or frameworks. Every step has got 'em. Some would call it splinter/frameworks. I hope, sorry, my handwriting's horrible. But on the one page, guys, you're able to see my actual handwriting. So these are the splinter results. So if you look at this, my ultimate result I'm trying to get people to grow their company with sales funnels. One of my core results is like I'm gonna show you how to build a webinar funnel 'cause if you have a webinar funnel successful, you're gonna be able to grow your company with a funnel, a webinar funnel. So then inside of webinar if like what are all the pieces? What are the core things? I should look, well, to be successful the webinar, number one, you have to learn how to like actually write a webinar presentation. So that's the core result or excuse me, a splint result is I gotta teach you this one, write this one in black. This is how to actually write your webinar. So for me, my framework here is called the perfect webinar, perfect webinar. That's the framework. Over here, you have a webinar presentation that's awesome. But you also, if you've got the presentation you also need the webinar funnel. If you have the funnel, you also got how do you drive traffic. So there's traffic inside here. There's a bunch of different these sub results. And one of them, one of the frameworks in here is how do people actually show up? If you will actually show up to webinar. So these are all these core. These are all of these splinter frameworks that they have. Now, your splinter frameworks, these are the key, this is what becomes your lead magnet. The further down you go on this, the sexier the thing becomes because it becomes more and more and more and more specific. The more specific it is, the sexier it is. Your lead magnet wants to be so sexy that people are going crazy, they have to get it. I showed you guys yesterday double your dating, what was the lead magnet? The kiss test, how to find out if, when you're on the doorstep, how to find out if she's ready to be kissed or not. The ultimate results for this person to get married and fall in love. Down here, it's like how to find a girl, down here is the kiss test. The kiss test is sexy. That's the thing like, "Oh, I need to know that framework. I got to figure that thing out." So for you it's like, "What is this, like what is the thing that's the most sexy, exciting, intriguing?" Someone's like, "I need to know that thing, what is it?" So for the example I'm gonna show you guys tonight in your homework is I decided to pick this right here. I said, "Okay, the one I'm gonna pick is this right here, how to actually show up the webinar." So I took that over here. I said, "Okay, how do you get people to show up the webinar?" What's my framework for that? And I had seven steps. So here's my framework. Step one, step two, step three, their seven steps. Here's seven things I do to get to make sure if you will actually show up for the webinar and then they're prepared to buy from you. And I turn it into a framework. And then from there I turn it into a one pager, one pager. And that became my lead magnet. And somebody saw yesterday, notice was on your homework. Do you see it? I did it ahead of time. Run your homework yesterday, some you saw that. If you clicked on the second of the three lead funnels, the second one was called, what secret webinar hacks. You clicked on that and you saw this framework. It was the seven things that I do to make sure people actually show up to our webinar and buy. And somebody has opted in that and you got it. You got the one pager of this thing. That was sexy, people who are trying to figure out this whole webinar things like, "Oh, how does this work." Like, "Oh, how do you people show up?" Like, that's a good question. Like, I don't know how to get people to show up. That's the sexy hook, that becomes the lead magnet. Someone's gonna say, "Hey, I'll give you my email address that I need that piece, I need that nugget, that thing you've got like that kiss test, how to show up to a webinar or whatever that thing is." Like, "I need that thing." They give their email address and now you're able to exchange it for them. So that's the core. That's how we make these things sexy. We're pulling out the lead magnet here from the splinter results. And so that's the big secret. So what I want you guys thinking about in your business is what does this look like? And for all guys can be different. You guys start thinking through it. From a high level, what is the ultimate result you're trying to get for your for your clients? What is that? The ultimate result, that is the thing that's up here on the top of the thing. This is the ultimate result. Now, you break down, you say, "Okay, what are the core results?" There's going to be three, four, five, 10 different core results that all lead to this. And each of those is its own journey, it's its own result. There'll be four or five mountains you got to get to before you scale Everest. So what are those other mountains? What are these other results you get for somebody? Those are the core results. And then from the core results, it's like, Okay, let me do one more tiered lower. What are all the things that go into the core result? Here's the different frameworks I have, there's four or five frameworks for that. I'm gonna grab this one that becomes the sexy, so that's how it's gonna work. If you think about this, let me go back to my books for a second. So say "Dotcom Secrets", for example, so my ultimate results help you grow company's sales funnels. This book right here is the underground playbook to grow your company with sales funnels. So this becomes a core result. You buy this book, it's gonna teach you guys the core results about building a funnel. With that core result inside of here there are how many secrets? 28. There's 28 secrets. So for me each secret is a framework. So I could grab, I look at all my 28 frameworks, like which one's the most exciting? There's a whole bunch in here. There's the secret formulas, hook story offer, there's the value ladder, there's attractive character, there's funnel hacking, the seven phases of the funnel, there's followup funnels, there's lead squeeze funnels, survey funnels, summit funnels, book funnels, cart funnels, challenge funnels, VSL funnels, webinar funnels, product launch funnels application funnels, curiosity-based headlines scripts, who, will, why, how scripts, star story solution script, OTO script, there's a perfect webinar script, the product launch script, the four question closed script, the set or closer script, there's click funnels, funnel stacking and funnel audibles. So that's the 28 frameworks inside this book. So I will look at this. Which one of those 28 frameworks is the most exciting? I'm like, "Okay, what's the one that can be most exciting?" I'm curious for you guys, which one was the most exciting? Would with a secret formula whoever wants secret formula? I could take the secret formula and that becomes the framework that I'm gonna give away, turn into a lead magnet. Or I could take funnel audibles. Somebody goes like, "Oh, what happens if your funnel flops? What do you do?" Boom. I can take the funnel audibles, one. Take the step-by-step framework I have for that one. Turn to one pager, make up a landing page and boom that fast I've got a lead magnet. So start thinking about your business that way. What are all the frameworks of the sub frameworks, the splinter results they're inside of the core thing you're trying to teach people. And in there is the magic. I'm looking, what's the sexiest things to get people to raise their hand, find that thing, pull it out. Look at here's the step-by-step process. And then we're gonna turn into one pager tonight and this will become a tangible thing that now you can exchange for an email address. Does that makes sense? All right. I'm excited. I got one more thing I want to share with you guys today and I'm gonna give you your homework assignment. So the last thing I wanna share with you guys, I know that a lot of you are coming into this world. You didn't come here as an educator. You came here because you really good at getting this result. And now you're like, "Man, for me to create a league man I've got to educate people, I've got to give them a framework and teach it in a way that gets them excited and make them wanna continue this journey with me. And you're probably nervous. And so I wanna share with you guys a framework that's going to teach you how to actually teach your framework. And this is something I use over and over and over again. And it's my framework for how to teach frameworks. And so I'm gonna show you guys how this process works because as you start creating a framework your gonna need to know how to do this. So step number one, you take your framework. So here's your framework. You've got your thing and here's your steps. Step one, two, three, four, five, however many steps you got and I don't care. It could be two steps, it could be like some of Tony's here were the three levels of mastery, three mandates, the two primary fears, the two master skills. So your framework doesn't have to be 80 steps. It can be two steps. It doesn't matter if you have your framework. So now you have this framework. How do you teach this? I remember when I first started developing my own frameworks, I know it was called that time but I remember I was learning this stuff. I was putting it out in my notes. I was like, "I'm gonna teach this." I got invited to speak at a seminar. I remember I got there to seminar I was so nervous, I was so awkward. Somebody hasn't seen the video I had my tie on and my glasses on, a shaved head I was trying to be very businessly. That's what business people do I thought. And I got there to start teaching. And first thing I do is, "Okay, I've got this framework. I know exactly how it changed their lives. I've gone on this path, I got a result. I'm going to give them the result, I'm going to shove it down their throats. I said, "Okay, here we go." I came in, I start teaching the framework. All right, guys, my name is Russell Brunson, step number one, how to be successful, what do you do? Step number two, and I went through my framework. And this framework is something that I had spent years learning and understanding and mastering. It was so important to me. I remember I met this event teaching two or 300 people, as I'm teaching people I started looking around and the audience is like nodding off. People are falling asleep, people getting up and the walking out of the room. I remember being so frustrated thinking like they don't know like what I'm giving them. Like this is so valuable. I remember there's a scripture in the New Testament where Christ talks about not casting your pearls before swine. And literally that's how I felt. This is this pro I spent two or three years mastering, learning and understanding this result. I know how to do. I'm trying to give it to people. I feel like I was casting my pearls before swine. How frustrating is that for you as an educator? I was ready to quit. I was like, "This is dumb." Like none of you really understand what I'm giving them. Like they understood what I had to learn and understand. Like I literally had to bleed to learn these things for them and they're just like walking away from them. I was so frustrated. So I did the first event I was like, "That was horrible." I got invited another event, same thing I come in it changes people's lives. Here we go, step number one, Step number two, step number three and people were passing out. I go to the third event and I'm just so discouraged. I'm like, "This is dumb." Like I feel like I'm just wasting my time, wasting their time. I get on stage and start teaching it. I go through the first thing, the second thing, some guy stands up and walks out. I get so mad. I slam my hand down on the desk and everyone sits up. I remember like being kind of shocked I had everyone's anyone's attention. And then the angry Russell came out and I said, "Do you not understand what I'm about to give you guys I'm trying to share this. Somebody just walked out, half of you guys are sound asleep, let me explain to you what I had to go through to understand, to learn this." I started walking through, I had to buy this course and this course, and this course, and I did this, I did this. I lost money here, I have some bankruptcy, I did this. I started going through all the story about how I learned and how I earned this framework. I went through the process and when they were done, when I was done telling that story, I was like, "Now you guys want to hear this?" And they're like, "Uh-huh, we're ready." I said, "Okay, step number one is this boom." And guess what? Nobody moved. Nobody got up, nobody left, nobody fell asleep because now they respected the pearl that I was trying to give to them. The first step when you are teaching your framework, step number one is you have to tell the story about how you learned it or earned it. If you do not tell the story about how you learned or earned it, they will not respect what you are about to give them. This is the pre-frame that gets them prepared to be worthy of the thing you're trying to give them. This increases the perceived value. Now they're like, "Oh, my gosh he went through all this pain and suffering and torture to get this thing for me, I'm gonna pay attention to it now." So step number one, you tell them the story about how you learned you learned or earned it. Step number two, now here's where you teach them the strategy. The strategy is the overarching thing. What I'm doing today, this is strategy. This is me mapping out. Here's the strategy of how to do it. I'm teaching this strategy so you understand the concept. Let’s say I'm an army general and I got always these warriors about to go to war, and if I don't tell them the strategy first, like, "Hey, you go over here, you go over here." And start giving them the tactics about where they're gonna go. People were like, "Why am I going over here? This makes no sense." Most of them aren't gonna follow you. You want people to follow you into war. The first thing I do is explain to them here's the strategy, here's what we are trying to do. When they understand the strategy, now it's like, "Hey, here's the tactics, you go over here, you go over here." Like, "Okay, I'm going over here because I'm part of this. I understand the strategy." So next thing you do is you have to share them the strategy. Do you guys notice that every single day is I'm going live here, what am I doing? I'm teaching you guys the strategy of that part of the framework. I'm not going to the tactics. The homework does the tactics. The homework is like, "Let me log into one pager and do thing." Let me log into ClickFunnels and show you step one and set like, okay, here, I'm showing you the strategy. If you believe in the strategy, then you're gonna go and do anything it takes to go and fulfill on the tactics. If I just give you the tactics though, you're gonna be lost. So I teach you the strategy. After you understood the strategy, then number three now here's where you give them the tactics. The tactics are like, "Okay, let me show how to do it." Step number one, you gotta go do this. Step number two, like tactics are college. If you're dentist it's like let me teach you how to clean teeth or how to do the thing. The tactics are like the actual, the deep dive, the step-by-step, here's step one, here's step two, here's step three. We're showing them the thing. Tactics are less sexy, but they're the things that people need to be able to the job done. And then the fourth thing after the tactics, then the last thing here , excuse me, is then we show them case studies. Like let me show you how this works in other people's lives 'cause this gives them belief of like, "oh, my gosh, this does work. I see how it works now in practical application" So this is my framework for how to teach frameworks. So for you guys, when you go tonight and you're like, "Hey, I need to build a framework." You're gonna go build out your framework, your step-by-step process. You going to put it into one page. We have like the things in one page, they've got all this stuff they need but then you got to teach them this framework. You gotta make a video of you showing here's how I learned or earned it. Here's the overarching strategy. Go in the one page down below and fulfill all the tactics. And in some cases, people have done it. This is how you do it. If you look at any chapter in my books, this is what I do. "Dotcom Secrets", chapter one, guess what I do? The secret formula, first thing I do I start with me telling the story about how I learned or earned this concept. It was 11:27 a.m. on a Monday morning, no matter what I told myself, I just couldn't get out of bed. I tell the story about how I learned or earned the secret formula. Then I told them the strategy, then I walk up through the tactics and they share a case study about how the whole thing works. That's chapter one. They go chapter two, what's chapter two, the value ladder. What do I do? I first tell the dentist story of how I learned or earned it. Then I walked through the strategy. I walked through the tactics or a case study, that's chapter two. I go to chapter three, guess how I do it? Boom. How I learned or earned it, teach the strategy, show them the tactics, do a case study. That's book one, book two, book three. That's how this whole process works over and over and over and over and over again. That's my framework for how to teach frameworks. I do it in a book, I do it in a course. I've done it today for crying out loud. I just come in here like, "Hey, guys let me go and show you guys how to build the framework." How many stories have I told you about how I learned or earned these different pieces? The strategies, things like that. That's the principle. So this is where we have to start learning how to do. And that is kind of, I think that's the last thing I want to share. All right. How you guys feeling? Are you excited so far? I want you guys to actually pull up the one pager, scroll up really quick. So this is the one pager we're gonna be giving you guys right now. The guys in the background, if you guys can scroll it up so I can see the very top of the page here, that'd be awesome. Hopefully we get them. There we go. So this is the one pager I'm gonna give you. Now, this one pager just you guys are fully aware in all transparency. This one pager is my framework for how to create a lead magnet. I just taught you the strategy. I've told you is how I learned or earned it. I tell you guys the strategy. This framework is gonna be the tactics. And so what's gonna happen. You're gonna see here's the strategy right here. Here's how you create one pager account and then it's gonna walk you through the tactics. Step number one, who is your dream customer? I taught you the guys the strategy behind that. The tactics you start typing in, your typing what is it gonna be? Step number two, what's the ultimate results. Step number three, what's the core results. Step number four, pick one core result in the three five splints results. Step number five, pick your splinter result. In the seven or six, you're gonna go to one page and actually do it. And I got my second framework down here. This the framework, how to use frameworks? You're gonna fill it out like how did you earn this framework? You're gonna share with people. Explain the strategy, walk through tactics, show the case study. So this one page is going to give you the tactics of how to fulfill on everything we've talked about today. I want to walk through these so you can understand what we did say was strategy, this is tactics. A lot of people confused like what's the response tactics and strategy. Here, I'm helping you cast the vision of like, "Oh, this is what we're doing." And then over here now, now we're getting to work. Now, we're doing the things. Just go back to the very top real quick. The other thing is that every single one page has a video. This video right here is me doing the tactics. You're gonna see me click on the button or when you click play on this, you're gonna see going. I actually go into a one pager. I build the thing out. I show you like here's step one, here's step two like this is lit, just like yesterday, this is me in my house doing the homework assignment with you. So you can see me doing the tactical like doing every single thing. Here's step one, here's step two. And so literally you can just watch me and just model it. And so for you guys what I recommend doing is going into one pager as you do this, you take whatever framework you decided, you're gonna plug into one pager, and this video teach kind of how to do that. And then when it's done, you need to record yourself teaching it and you don't have to, you can take videos away in one pager but I highly recommend if you can make a one pager and plugging a video of you teaching this right here. And literally like, this is my one pager for how to make waffle dough at home or whatever. It's about one pager about how to get more clients into my massage cling. This is my one pager about how to publish your music as a band. This is whatever your thing is. Create one pager and then the video is basically you can go through this. This is Russell, let me tell you a story about how I learned and I earned this framework for you. And some people ask, "What's interesting to learn?" Learn the stuff that you learn by trial and error or excuse me, learning, you learned from somebody like from a teacher or a mentor or you read a book or a course or whatever. I talk about learning and I always give credit where credit's due. If I learned something to somebody else I always tell people that. And that earned it is like I earned it through my own blood, sweat and tears. So how did you discover this framework that you're sharing with them? Tell that story. And then explain the overarching strategy, just what's happened, this is why it's so cool. Here's the tactics. And then actually do the assignment with them. Go through the one page like here's step one, here's step two, do that. And show cases of how you've done that people in past. Record that video and then plug it in boom, right there. And it's simple, easy to do. Some of you guys who've never done a video before, this will be kind of scary and it's okay 'cause right now nobody's gonna see this besides you. You can get your iPhone click record like, "Hey, my name's Russell." And just go through this as well. It doesn't need to be professional or anything, just teach the framework. And that video of you teach the framework gets plugged right here. And now when they come here, they got the framework they've got the video teaching them, showing them this here. And then down below you got the actual one pager that's gonna be the framework for them. And so that's kind of the game plan. And so this right here, this one page is gonna teach you guys how to actually build your one pager, your lead magnet in one pager, which is kind of cool. Now, one page deciding is just went live today. This is a new software product. There's probably gonna be some bugs and some issues. Like yesterday you guys all downloaded the one-pagers from yesterday. And we had, I think it was like, I can't remember eight or 9,000 people download it one in one minute. And from that they have like two or 3 million hits to the database. And it was the first time we'd ever actually launched this before. And it kind of crashed a couple times, so you guys may have seen that. So this is a new product. It literally went live today. There's gonna be some issues and things, let us know we're working on making it better but it is insanely cool. As you will see, all my one-pagers for this training have been built in it and he doesn't have a chance to build it. We all set up so you can create your very first one pager for free. So if you're like, "I don't have any money, Russell." That's cool. Just you follow the process, the software that you create your first one for free. So you get one lead magnet is completely free. You can build it, mess it up, delete it, start over until you've got it perfected and understood. And now you've got a tangible thing. You've turned your framework from just a random framework into something tangible. Now, this framework, this core concept that I have, now it's a framework now I can actually give this analysis a tangible thing. I can give somebody this in exchange for their email address. And that's the secret, that's the power. So under it now I'm gonna have my team put the link down below for you guys get your day number two homework assignment. And links there it is right there, 5dayleadchallenge.com/lead magnet. It'll redirect to this page right here. After the page, you can save it into your one page account and then go and do the assignment. Watch the video, do the things, fill it out, brainstorm, fill in the forms. I don't just like my dream clients this like think through it, spend some time. Go deep in this, by the time you're done, if you finish this assignment, but time is done, you're gonna have your first one pager. I promise you the very first time it can be frustrating. It's new, it's like, in fact, it's funny. I built six one pagers this weekend for this training. I built day one, day two, day three. Day one I built it I was like, "This is kind of cool, but it looked ugly." And then day two I got better. Day three I got better. By day four like my one-page looks so awesome. I was like, "Oh, I hate day one now." So I went back to day number one, I deleted the whole thing, I started over. And now day one is yes, I actually looked awesome. And I redid day two, which just say now day two looks awesome. And I keep like, as you keep doing this you'll get better and better and better. But even like looking at my one-pagers look at the one I gave you yesterday, look at the one I'm giving you guys yesterday. And like, this will give you ideas like, "Oh, what you could do like, oh, I could do that. I could try that." And you can just kind of play with it a little bit. And that's kinda how it works. So again, the link down below, 5dayleadchallenge.com/lead magnet. We'll give you the one pager, spend some time today and tonight actually creating a one pager. We need that because tomorrow, day number three in my process to help you guys get the result of getting unlimited leads, day number three is now we got to build your lead funnel. And so if you build your lead funnel, we have to have the lead magnet. So build lead magnet today. Again, you can edit it in the future. You can change, this does not have to be perfect. Just kind of play with it, put it in there. And then tomorrow we build lead funnel. We'll be taking this lead magnet you build, we'll be plugging into the funnel and now you'll have something you can like send people to, they'll give you their email address. You'll get in the lead magnet and your business start growing. That sound good? I hope this helps you guys. I had so much fun today. I said this was the day I was most excited to teach. I hope that you've got tons of value, information. Hope you guys understand all these pieces. Now, your game plan is to go get the one pager get started on it and then we'll see you guys back here tomorrow, same time, same place to go into day number three of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. Thank you guys so much for participating, for showing up. Do not be late tomorrow. We're going to go again and we'll see you guys all tomorrow. Thanks everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is day 2 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com.

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What's up, everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you enjoyed our last episode, which was day number one of the Five Day Lead Challenge. Today, we are moving into day number two. And again, this is a recording from a live event I did that you can go and get the actual videos if you want to see them, you can download the one pagers and get the homework assignments all those things for free. All you do is go to fivedayleadchallenge.com. You can get those things. I'm going to play day number two for you right now. And day number two is all about creating your lead magnet. What is the thing you can create that's going to get people to come from Facebook, or Google, or YouTube, or Instagram, or whatever, and actually give you their email address. And the better your lead magnet is the more people will give you their email address. So we're talking about how to create good lead magnets, what they look like. And then I'm actually going to be talking about one of my favorite software tools, second only to click funnels, and it's called one pager.

One pager is how I create most of my lead magnets as you guys have probably seen. Again, there'll be parts of this that I'll be demoing stuff on a screen that you won't be able to see here on the audio podcast. But if you want to go see the video version and get the one pager, and the homework, and assignments, and things like that. Again, all you got to do is go to fivedayleadchallenge.com. So that said, I hope you guys enjoyed day number two, Creating Your Lead Magnet.

Welcome back to day number two of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. Are you guys half as excited as I am? I'm not gonna lie of all the five days, this is the one that I've been looking forward to the most the teaching, the coaching and walking guys through, this one is gonna be so much fun. And so I'm pumped to see all you guys, thank you so much for hanging out with us today. Hopefully, you all had a chance yesterday to watch day number one. Day number one, the goal of that was to kinda give you guys a broad overview of this is what the process is, what the system is, what the frameworks look like, and today we're actually gotta get our hands dirty and start building something which is exciting. And so I'm pumped to be here with you guys.

Thank you so much for hanging out with us, thank you for everybody who's been sharing these videos. I think before he pulled up, there was like almost 300 people that shared the videos already on social, these lives, thank you for sharing it. If you know anybody else who should be here, please tag them in the comments down below, and that way we can get more people coming and hanging out for this. Like I told you guys yesterday, over 35,000 of you guys registered to be part of this. We had over 11,000 people on live yesterday between Zoom and Facebook and YouTube, and then over 9,000 of you guys watched the replays, so this is amazing. This is like such a huge honor for me. So today's the day, like I said though, I'm most excited for. Today we're gonna be going into actually creating your lead magnet, your one pager and it's gonna be a lot of fun.

But before I get too deep into that, I spent time yesterday looking through all of the tens of thousands of comments and questions, I also talked to a lot of you guys who were on and who had questions and stuff like that. So I wanna do a couple of things just kinda help and make sure that we're bridging this gap before I dive deep into the fun stuff I've got prepared for you guys today. Does that sound good? Okay, so the first thing I wanted to do, a lot of people, especially people who're kinda in different types of businesses were asking me about like how does this work Russell? Like I understand I need leads for my business. You talked about email list, you build a big list, you can send emails to but like, how does this work for my specific business? And so I wrote down a couple of different ones I wanted to kinda give some case studies and examples for, okay.

So the first one I talk about, this is for like a traditional business. It's like a brick and mortar company. So I got a couple of good examples of this. One of them, one of my friends actually told me this story, he lives down in Florida and he is a guy who is like me, builds big email lists and stuff. And one night he went to order pizza, this is pre-COVID stuff, so you could still go and hang out and eat with people. And he goes to the pizza place and he sits down and he's waiting for the pizza guy to finish cooking his pizza and give it to him. And it's the local shop, so it's not like a big chain, it's just like a local dude who has got a pizza shop and having a lot of fun. And he starts asking my buddy like, "So what do you do for a living?" And he's like, "Oh, I'm an internet nerd, and this is what I do." And the guy was like, "Well, how do what you do work for me? Like I don't understand, I'm a pizza place. How do I use the internet, like how does actually work for me?" And so my friend came back to him and said, "Okay, well, let's do an experiment."

He said, "Right now how are you getting leads? How do you get new people coming into the store?" And he said, "Well, word of mouth, we've got a yellow page ad, we were in some newspaper ads." They had some things they were using to drive leads in. And he said, "Okay, what I want you to do for the next 30 days, is we're gonna do an experiment. Okay, so for the next 30 days, when people come into your store is I want you to give them a lead magnet." He's like, "What's a lead magnet?" He said, "Well, in your case, a lead magnet for your pizza place is give people say, if you give me your email address I'm gonna give you a free topping, I'm gonna give you a free drink or something." And he's like, "Find something you can give them in exchange for their contact information." And the guy is like, "Okay, what am I gonna do with this like just right now for 30 days just get their contact information, I'll come back in 30 days and I'll show you step two in the plan." So the guy is like, "All right."

So he put up a little sign that said, "Give me your email address, put your business card in here and we'll give you a free," I can't remember, "Free topping or something." And so the guy did that for 30 days. And at the end of 30 days, my friend came back to his place and the time he had 600 email addresses that got collected in the last 30 days. And my friend said, "Okay, now I'm gonna show you the next step in this process. These people came in, these are all leads, but these leads, we're gonna put them into an email list. Okay, we've got 600 leads." So he took them, he went and he set them into an email list. And we'll talk about how to do this actually on day number four. But he uploaded all these leads to an email list, and he said, "Why don't you use every single day at four o'clock, when people are still at work, they'll be getting ready to think like, "What's my dinner plans?" And he's like, "I want you to send them an email. And all the email is gonna say is, "Hey, it's four o'clock. and a lot of you guys are thinking about what you're gonna have for dinner, if you want, I can have a pizza ready for you in the next hour. Just call this number right here and I will have your pizza ready and you can come drive by and pick it up on your way home."

So that's what he told him and said, "Every single day at four o'clock send that same email. You can tweak it if you want, but just regardless, send out the same email every single day." So the guy was like, "Okay, I'm gonna do that." And then my friend said, "I wanna test something though," and he's like, "I need you to set two phone numbers, it's gonna show you like, how much more valuable this is and all the other advertising you're doing." And the guy said, "Okay." So he had all the other advertising would go to one phone number. So the yellow pages, the radio ads, the newspaper, everything would go to one phone number. Then the email list went to a separate phone number, and I want you to track over the next 30 days, every day send out this email, and then I want you to see how many leads or how many customers came in from your email list versus all the other types of advertising you're doing.

So then, okay, so he did that and he starts sending emails once every single day, every single day, four o'clock, send the same email send the same email, the guy didn't even edit the email. He just like copied and pasted it every single day. And after 30 days my friend came back and said, "Okay, what are the stats?" And the guy said, "It's crazy." He said, "My company has been so busy." He's like, "My best customers keep coming back." Before they'd come once or twice a quarter. Now, they come back once or twice a week to buy from me 'cause I'm putting these messages out in front of them. He said, "I did the math." He said, "Right now for every one phone call I'm getting from all my other advertising efforts, I'm getting four phone calls from my email list." And that's the power of it.

So that's how it works for traditional local business. I had another friend who runs a gym. And he was actually my trainer for a couple of years and we're hanging out and we were lifting weights and he was telling me how to do stuff. And he's like, "So how would your internet stuff work for someone like me, I've got a gym?" I was like, "You know what?" And he was like "My Facebook ads, how's it gonna work?" I'm like, "Well, you can do that but let's go with the low hanging fruit." I'm like, "Do you have a list?" He's like, "What's a list?" I'm like, "Okay, do you have any leads?" He's like, "Kind of, not really." I said, "Okay, well, do you have dead files?" He's like, "What's a dead file?" I'm like, "A dead file is someone who came into your business at one point and that you have their contact information. They either trained with you, they didn't and they left, but you have their contact information, their email, right?" He's like, "Oh yeah, I've got tons. I have a whole filing cabinet full of those." I said, "Okay, this weekend, we're you to grab all those and put them all on an Excel sheet like the name and email address of all the people. And on Monday, I'm gonna show you guys the magic trick. I'm gonna show you magic trick." He's like, "Okay."

So that weekend he went through his dead files, he put everyone's name, email on the list. He came back and on Monday I was like, "Well, how many do you have?" He said, "I had a little over 300 people." I said, "Okay, let me show you a magic trick. I'm gonna fill up your gym completely off nothing but your dead files." And he's like, "How does that work?" I said, "Watch this." So I took his 300 names, we put them in email list and I sent an email to that list. I said something, it was towards the new year. I said, I think the subject line I tried to get it, he wouldn't let me do this. But subject line was, "Are you fat again?" He was like, "I think it's gonna offend some people." I'm like, "Okay." We wrote an email basically saying, "Hey, one time you came in the gym, but you're no longer here. Right now, we got a special offer where you can come in like do free training session and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." He sent the email to just the dead files. The 300 some people who come in at one point.

From that, he got 60 new clients to call him on the phone, come in and do a session and completely filled up his gym. And I came back to him like two or three weeks later, I was like, "Hey, ready for step two." He was like, "No, he's like, my gym's filled. There's nothing else like all my sessions are filled. I can't do anything else." All from just an email list. Can we just understand this is the power of your traditional business, how these email lists work. Oh, just to get the wheels spinning 'cause everyone's like, "Oh, I don't wanna a pizza place, Russell. Or I don't run. I don't run a gym. This works in any business.

We had a girl that used to live by us. And I think she was 14 and 15 years old. And she was a babysitter. And I don't know about you guys, but for me it's like every weekend, it's like, "Oh, I want to go dance with my wife and I need to call a babysitter." And like all these things, it's like, ha, so frustrating. So we found this one babysitter, she was awesome. But the problem was she was in high demand. So like, and I didn't know why at the time it was like we'd get her one time and it would be hard to get her back and forth. And then one day when she started doing it was crazy, every Friday at about noon we would get a text message. This text message went out to us and probably 10 or 15 other families who she used, who would babysit. And she would text, excuse me. She said, "Hey, this is so-and-so." Excuse me she said, "I'm open to babysit tonight and tomorrow night, if you're interested text me back, first come first serve." And I get that text every Friday at like noon. And as soon as I came in, I'm like, "Oh." And I try to reserve my time. And she was booked up every Friday, every Saturday she had babysitting lined up every single week for the first, like it was insane because she had this list of five or six families, 10 families, whatever it was that she babysat for.

And every week she sent the message out reminding them like, "Hey, I can babysit tonight." We're like, "Oh, thank heaven, I'm not gonna call a babysitter. I can like, this is great." And like that fast, she fill up her schedule just from her tiny email list of like 15, 20 people. So that's kind of how this process works. Oh, I'm gonna show you guys an example. Another one, a lot of people are like, "Well, I'm a network marketer, I'm a network marketer. How does this work for me?" So network marketers, a lot of times people in network marketing or affiliate marketing like this doesn't work because I don't have my own product, Russell. I don't have my own frameworks, I don't have these things.

And I'm gonna show you guys about frameworks a lot today. But just think, for example, let's just say one of the network marketing companies I'm really familiar with is Proven. I do a lot of work with those guys and Proven is a product that helps people get their body in ketosis. So it's like, what if let's say that that's your product? That's the result that your company offers. So like what if you went and created a lead magnet it's gonna show that here's my number one recipe and how to get my number one keto recipe or here's 12 ways to get in keto faster or whatever. You make a lead magnet like that and you start driving traffic. I'm gonna show you guys here and you get a list of 10, 50, 100 people, 500 people, who are all downloaded your one-pager, your lead magnet, about how to get your body in ketosis or whatever it is. And now if the product you sell, is it something that's related to getting people in ketosis. Now, you can send emails to that list and say, "Hey, we have a special promotion happening. Hey, we have a sample going on. Hey, we have this thing." And you send emails lists to get people excited. This works in any company.

I think about doTERRA is another company. doTERRA Essential Oils. What if I made a one page or a lead magnet? It's like, "Hey, here's six essential oils to help build up your immunity during COVID-19." That becomes a lead magnet. I send out, people start opting in and building this list of people who are learning essential oils. Now, I've got a list of my dream customers. Now, you send emails, getting them to sign up and become a distributor underneath me. See how this works like there's so many use cases and so many ways. Again, you'll see more ways to here in a minute. E-commerce, let's say you're e-commerce, so you're like, "Hey, I'm an e-commerce, Russell. I don't understand this whole list building thing."

Well, let's just say, let's pick your e-commerce store, let's say you are selling camping stuff. So let's say e-com and your market is camping. So let's say I sell camping gear. I sell tents, I sell, I don't know, mess kits, I sell camping stuff. I don't even know what camping people do. I'm not a camper. But let's say I've got those camping e-com store. What if I make a lead magnet that's like, "Hey, the six best places in the United States to go camping or the five things you must have to be able to go camping." And sleep , talking about camping stuff. My dream customers, people interest in camping buy that or excuse me, opt-in to give me the email address. I build a list of 1,000, 2,000, 5,000 people interested in camping. And now it's the emails like, "Oh, by the way, have you seen my new camping thing, have you seen this, have you seen this?" And you can sell them the products in your store. So again, it works for every business.

You have to kind of think a little bit about how to bridge that gap for yourself so hopefully some of those examples will get the wheels in your head spinning. I just wanted to start that way 'cause I know some of you guys a lot of people were like, "This is awesome, Russell. That's not gonna work for my specific business." It works for every business. I promise you that. If your business needs leads, it'll work for it. You just got to think outside the box. Like what is the lead magnet I have it's going to get my dream customers to come to me. So that's the first thing I want to share to kind of bridge the gap. Now with that, we'll start diving into the frameworks I wanna share with you guys today. Are you guys ready for this?

We're gonna go, I think I got three frameworks I'm gonna go deep into that I'm excited to share with you guys. Anyway, I think you're gonna love them. So the first thing I want to start with, I kind of touched upon this yesterday, but I wanna go a lot deeper in it. So every single business, I don't care what business you're in. The first thing you have to ask yourself, step number one it's always figuring out who. Who is your dream customer? Who is the person that you've been called to serve? A lot of these people are like, "Oh, businesses is business." Like no, no, no. Businesses are all about serving certain group of clients. My business, I'm obsessed with helping entrepreneurs. So my dream clients are entrepreneurs, people who are starting their own businesses. People who want to change the world. That's my dream client. I have a very clear picture of who that person is.

So my first question for you is, who is your dream client? Not like who's the random person who sees your ad and comes into the door. Who is your dream client? Who is the person that if you could work with them all day long, you do it for free because you love that person so much. That's what you gotta be thinking through. Who is your dream client? That's the first step in here. And you have to become crystal clear on who that person is. If you don't know who they are it gets really hard to attract them. If I'm like, "Oh, I'm just trying to get customers. I don't know." If you do that, you're gonna attract random people off the street. But if you know exactly who you are looking for, it gets really easy to attract that person. And I could go on for days. In fact, if you read the "DotCom Secrets" book, the very first section, I talk a lot about this. Like who's your dream customer, you gotta figure out who that person is. So that's the first step, who's my dream customer.

The second thing it says that every business is in the job, I don't care what business you're in, your goal is to figure out who your dream customer and then get that person a certain result. Like that's the goal. So I don't know who is. And the second question is, here's this big journey they're going on up the mountain. And the second thing is what is the result that I am getting for them. Now, in most businesses there's a lot of different types of results. Right now I think like what's a certain result that you can get for your dream customer. So think about, it's like let's say your dentist. So my dream client are people local area who want straight teeth, that's my dream client. What's the result I get for them? I help them get straight, clean white, beautiful teeth. That's the result I get somebody. If you are a masseuse, who's your dream client? It's somebody who's trying to get in good shape, someone who's trying to get their body in shape and things like that. There's your dream client. What's the result you're getting for them? I'm getting out of pain, helping them to be more relaxed and help do whatever the thing is.

There's a result I have for them. If you are any business, like for example, right now before I started this whole 5 Day Challenge, my question was who are my dream clients? My dream clients, people are trying to figure out how in the world to get leads for their business. What's the result I wanna get people? I want to show them exactly how to build out a lead magnet, a squeeze page funnel, and drive traffic so they can start getting leads, like that's the result I wanted to give people when they started on this path. So for you those are the two first questions, who's your dream client? And what is the major result you're trying to get for them? And now you stop for a second, say, "Okay, that's the major result I want to try to get for somebody." So then the question is, what is the step-by-step process to get them the result? You've been on this path before. You've already gotten this result. If you haven't gotten this result, you're not in the business of getting people that result. That way if you haven't achieved the thing you're trying to promise people you're going to help them with, you shouldn't be in that business.

So if you're trying to help them get result means you've already gotten that result for yourself. So the question then is, well, what were the steps for you to get the result? What was the first thing you had to do to get towards that result? What was the second thing you did? What was the third thing you did? What was the fourth thing you did? What was the fifth thing you did? What were all the steps you did to get that result? So think for a second, what were the things? Here's a 5 Day Lead Challenge, guess what my results were? For number one I had to create a lead magnet. Number two, after lead magnet I created a lead funnel. After lead funnel I had to create an email sequence to build a relationship with the list. I thought I'd launched my funnel, get traffic coming in. And then so these were the steps I had to do to get leads into my business. So before I did this whole training I sat down saying "What's the framework I need to teach people? What are the step-by-step process that I have to show people to do to get the same result that I got." So I take those step-by-step things and I create what I call a framework. And a framework is just the step-by-step process.

In framework say step number one, you do this. Set number two, you do this. Step three, four, five, six. And like I walk some people through the actual framework. You call it a framework we call it the recipe. Like this is the recipe. If my results to make a cake, what's the first step making cake. What's the second, what's the third, what's the four? It's not difficult to make a cake when you've got the recipe. Your job as a business is to help people. Your basically you're creating a recipe to get your dream customer a certain result. That's all it is. Every business, I don't care what business you're in. You offer people result and you have some kind of framework, some kind of proprietary framework or recipe or process or something you take somebody through to get the result. That framework, that process is what I'm gonna call your framework, like I call them a framework. But it's a framework. It's a step-by-step process. This is the thing that becomes your lead magnet.

And I'll go deeper 'cause people are like, "Well, what?" I do a lot of results, what's the right one? I'll show you guys that here in a few minutes but this is the first key is the framework. As I do in notes here today, I was mapping out some businesses I wanted to share examples for anyone, 'cause again, people always like how's this work for my specific business? So here's a framework. So let's just say your dentist. Your dentist, your dream client is somebody who's trying to get straight white teeth. That's the result they want. So what's step-by-step process? Step number one, you've got to brush your teeth twice a day, morning, night. Step number two, you've got to floss. Step number three, you've got to use mouthwash. Step number four, you gotta use teeth whiter. Step number five, you gotta come to the dentist. Step number six, and you have a step-by-step process to get in that result. So if you're a dentist that's the framework. That becomes the lead magnet to get somebody to come in.

Let's say you are selling a ketogenic diet or you're network marketing program is selling ketogenic things. So let's say your dream clients are people trying to lose weight. You lost weight, how'd you do it? Here's a step-by-step process I used to lose weight on the keto diet or the paleo diet or the whatever you're thing is. Here's my step-by-step process. That becomes the framework now that you're going to share with people. Oh, I was going to show you some examples. So some of the products I've created throughout the years.

My very first product ever created somebody hasn't heard about this one was my how to make potato gun. All this was me saying, who's my dream clients? Somebody who wants to make a potato gun. What's the result? I'm going to use my potato gun. How to make potato gun? What's the step-by-step process? Step number one, you got to go to Home Depot and buy the pipe. Step number two, you got to cut the pipes to slice. Step number three, you got to get the glue. Step number four, and basically I wrote here's the framework of the step-by-step process to create a potato gun. I sat there with a video camera and I recorded myself teaching step one, two, three, four, but this was just a framework of how I made a potato gun. That's it and that became a product I could then sell or I could use as a lead magnet or I could use for a coaching program, whatever it is. But this framework is a step-by-step process to get a certain result. There's the result.

Let's see, if you've read any of my books, all my books, these t's like "Dotcom Secrets" are all the frameworks of all the sales funnels, how to build sales funnels. Expert secrets is the frameworks on how you tell the stories to convert people inside your funnels. Traffic secrets are my frameworks to get traffic. If you look at one of my books, "Network Marketing Secrets." These are all my frameworks. If my dream client's a network marketer, the result is how to use funnels to get leads for network marketing. This book was my step-by-step framework to be able to do that. "30 Days", this is one of our products called 30days.com. And what I did is I interviewed 30 people and I asked them this question, I said, okay let's say you're going to a brand new complete newbie. Somebody who didn't know anything. So there's my who. And their goal is how did I build a business in 30 days using nothing but ClickFunnels? What would I do?

And I had 30 people write a chapter saying, "Okay, well this is what I would do. My step would be step one, two, three, four and this is the process I would go through to get that result. I have 30 different people each write a chapter in here, telling me what their step-by-step result would be to help somebody who's brand new to the launch funnel inside of ClickFunnels in 30 days. I took all these, put them into a book and became a product. I could take one chapter out of this and that chapter could be lead magnet. Like let me show you how Liz Benny, her 30 day plan to go from beginner to startup. However, give me your email address, I'm going to give you Liz Benny's plan. I think one of those out in that framework is something that can become lead magnet. All right.

So what a framework is. Does that make sense, you guys? And so all you guys have frameworks Everything we use has a framework. So I wanna start thinking like what are your frameworks? What could your frameworks be? 'Cause everyone's got them. So let me start thinking through that. And I'm going to show you guys in a minute how to pick the right framework 'cause my guess is you have more than one. Mostly guys have more than one result. You can get somebody. But the key there is you're creating a framework.

Now, one thing that I'm excited for today you guys will learn about in your homework is how do you make that framework tangible? A lot of us have a framework. Oh, I have a process, how do I turn that into a lead magnet? How do I make it a tangible thing? How many of you yesterday downloaded the one pager I gave you? The one pager is my new favorite tool. As you can tell, I'm obsessed with. Every day of this challenge, you are getting a one pager and then I'm giving you a bonus one this weekend I created two. The one pager literally all it is is it's taking this framework you created and it's making it tangible. It's tangible where somebody could actually take it. They can give you their email address, you can give them something. So one pager is a way to take your framework and then turn it into something you can give people. And again, your homework summit tonight is gonna a chance to actually take your framework and you're gonna build out one page or so. When it's done, you've got this amazing one pager here where it's got your entire framework built out. Like I said you guys got one yesterday.

One of my one-pagers yesterday is an example. I'm gonna give you another one today and you'll see it as an example of an actual framework. In fact, back in the house, guys let's pull up the framework for today. So this is the framework I'm gonna be giving you guys tonight for your homework and I'm not gonna go through it now. But if you scroll down really, really quickly, this is basically thinking day two's framework the step-by-step process and it's all in here. So I took my framework and I made it tangible by turning to one pager. Now, I'm gonna give all you guys. So my goal for you guys is the same kind of thing, is you're gonna take this framework you're creating or make it tangible by turning into a one pager then you can give somebody when they give you their email address. All right. One other thing. Oh yeah. One other thing as well as we're talking about frameworks, this is happening more than I think most of you guys realize, more than I realize. And it's, I want you guys to see it.

If you watch the way that I teach or the way the products I sell, the things I'm doing all the time, they're always frameworks. Everything I'm doing is a framework and "Dotcom Secrets there's probably 30 different frameworks I share. Expert secrets is probably 22 different frameworks. Travel secrets is like 40 frameworks. They're just different frameworks I'm teaching people and they're all in there. How many guys know what's these right here? This is the manual for Unleash the Power Within. So this is interesting. So 10 years ago I went to Unleash the Power Within, Tony Robbins event, actually probably 12 years ago now.

First time I met him in person was in this event was really, really cool. And as I went through this four day event I remember just being blown away. I was like, "This is the most amazing thing in the world." Like, I don't know how Tony does this. How's he gonna stay for 50 hours straight without any notes and teach all of this kind of stuff. And like has these trans these things where he's transforming people's lives like was just the most amazing thing. I felt like almost like "The Wizard of Oz." Like how is he doing this? I have no idea how he's making this whole thing happen. It was so cool to see. And so that was kind of the thing. And then 10 years later, 12 years later, UPW went virtual, And so I wanted my kids to experience this so we signed up, my wife, my kids, we all did together. We got the workbooks and we sat down and Tony got onstage. Virtual stage, day number one, he started teaching.

And as he was teaching, really quickly, I was looking at his whole teaching through a different lens than I typically did. In the past, 10, 12 years ago, the first time with UPW I was just like, "This is amazing. I don't really see what happening." Now, 12 years later I've had enough experience. I was like, "I want to study not so much what he's teaching, but how he's teaching. Like, what's his process? Like how does this actually work? And day one, he started teaching and all of a sudden he started teaching and he broke out his very first framework and he start teaching his very first framework. There was a result he was trying to teach us and he walked us through his first framework. And I was like, "Interesting."

So what I did is I opened up my notebook and the very first page here I wrote down the framework. The framework was called three levels of mastery. The result that Tony was trying to get everybody at UPW is let me show you how to master something, how to gain mastery. He said there's three steps to it. Step number one is this, step number two is, and step number three is this. He spent like 45 minutes teaching three levels of mastery. And I was like, "Cool." And then he all of a sudden, he went to the next framework. He said, "Okay, next framework." He didn't say it this way. Next thing is the three mandates of leadership. I'm gonna teach you guys the result, how to become a leader.

He said there's three mandates of leadership. Step number one is this, step two is this, step three is this and he went on. I wrote down that. There's a second frame he taught three mandates of leadership. And all of a sudden Tony went from there to the next one. He said, "Okay, I'll teach you guys my success cycle." Boom the result, how to be successful. Here's the step-by-step process for the success cycle. And then he went on the next one and it was the three decisions that changed your life. He said, "Here's the result, I'm going to show you guys how to change your life." Here's the three decisions, boom, boom, boom. Then he went, the three patterns of focus and meaning. How to change the meaning in your life. How to change your meaning, you change the meaning change life. Here's the three patterns of focus. And then the two primary fears. You're struggling, you have these fears. Here's your primary fear, how to break them. Number three, the three ways to grow a business, boom, boom, boom. The two ways to master skills, the three forces of creation, the three chunks of practical psychology. The three things that cause suffering, the tried, the three molders of meaning and then the six human needs.

And I watched it. That was day one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 13. So day number one at UPW, Tony went through 13 different frameworks. This is how Tony is able to get up and speak for 50 hours without notes. He's like, "I have my frameworks, I know what they are and I'm just gonna go through them in order." Step number one, I'm gonna teach you guys the three levels of mastery. Step number two, the three mandates of leadership. Step number three, the success cycle and on, and on, boom. That was day number one, UPW.

Day number two, he had a whole another set of frameworks. Day number three, a whole another set of frameworks. Day number four, a whole another set. All you guys have frameworks to do the thing that you do. You just didn't know what it was. First time I watched Tony speak I was so mesmerized. I didn't understand and all of a sudden, the second time I felt like it was like "The Wizard of Oz." Like I saw the guy behind the curtain like, "Oh, he's just he's got a whole bunch of frameworks that are amazing and he's teaching them like that that's the secret." A lot of guys like "No, I think people see things, no you don't." You went to dental school and somebody taught you a result. You learned the skill set and you came back and now you follow the step-by-step framework to get people's teeth cleaned or you're an orthodontist and you know how to get the results like get people see straight. That's what I do, no, no. All you did is you went to college, you learned a framework, you came back and now you apply that framework to get people see straight.

Every business you're in that's all it is. You have a dream customer, they want a result. You know how to give them that result. You went through the process, you paid the price. At one point you did it either through school or through learning for somewhere. Somehow you learn that thing and now you're helping through the process. That's it, that's the game, you guys. You have to understand that you have these frameworks. And so that is the key to building out lead magnets is the key to creating products, is the key to creating services, is the key to creating everything is understanding that you have frameworks and start looking for them.

So I to show you that 'cause I want you to see like that's what everyone's doing, that's what I'm doing, that's what Tony's doing, we have our frameworks we teach them, we show them. So my frameworks come in training like this So I take my frameworks I develop them into software. Some people create framework, they turn those frameworks into supplements. Here's the supplements to take, to get the result I want. Some people doing the coaching, we do consulting Some people do with actual physical products like every single business is that. Think about a restaurant, what's the result in the restaurant? My dream client, somebody's hungry, I'm going to feed them this food. They're gonna feel happy. What's the step-by-step process? They come in, we feed them this, we do this, we take it. And here's the process we go through. So all you guys have frameworks. The value you have is your frameworks.

So when you start thinking through that through a different lens and somebody's like I don't have frameworks yet. I promise you do. You just haven't started identifying. This is your job to start breaking down like what are my frameworks? What are the things I know how to do? When I create my potato gun DVD I didn't know it was a framework. I just knew how to build a potato gun. So I made a product teaching it. Looking back I was like, "Oh." I built the frame. I built a potato gun so I had a result. I just wanted to replicate so I walked into the process now everyone can build a potato gun. There's a recipe it's really simple to do. All right. So this is the key. You guys understand that?

So next question is like Tony had 13 different results and frameworks for day one. Like what's what frameworks should I be using? That's the big question. So let me come back. And so what I want to talk about is there's this path of you taking your dream customer on a journey and there's different results you can give somebody. There's like big results. Like if you look at my mission, my mission is to help entrepreneurs like you to grow their companies through sales funnels. That's the big result. Like that's the ultimate result I want to get for somebody. There's a lot of sub results underneath that. And so what I did the other day I was kind of mapping this out as I was preparing to teach you, how do you break this down in a way it's simple for people?

So think about like for you with your clients, there's the ultimate result. So this is the thing, ultimate result. So for me my ultimate result is gonna help you grow your company through sales funnels. The problem typically with an ultimate result it's a big goal, it's awesome. But guess what? It's typically not a very sexy hook. If I was like, "I'm gonna teach you guys how to grow your company with sales funnels." Like, "Is that hook good?" It's like, "Oh, it's okay but it's not like great." Typically our ultimate result we're trying to get somebody is not like the sexiest most exciting thing in the world 'cause it's so broad, it's so big, it's just not that tangible. 35,000 people who would not have registered for this event, if I was like, "Hey, if you sign for this 5 Day Event I'll teach you how to grow your company with sales funnels." You're like, "Ah" So the ultimate results like this is what we're trying to take people. This is typically not what we're actually selling.

Underneath this ultimate result, there's a whole bunch of what I call core results that we offer people. So you come down here and there's different core results. I'm gonna list a couple of them here and every business has these core results. So for me, like, for example, if my goal is to grow your company through sales funnels, so how do I do it? There's a lot of ways to do that. Well, one way, one core results that I could do that by teaching you guys how to build and launch a webinar, that's one way. Make sense. Another way I could do is like let me show you how to drive traffic into your funnels and that if you learn to drive traffic that'll lead to your ultimate result.

Oh, another one is I'm gonna show you how to write copy, how to tell your stories. Another one is gonna be whatever. So I have these core results here. So this is the ultimate result. These are your core results, right here so you can see it, core results. That's the second thing here, so these are the core results. Now, typically you'll get in what most businesses, the core results, these become like your actual products. So I have a product teaching people how to grow a company with a webinar. Perfect webinars secrets, I teach people. Here's how to write a webinar and how to do sales page and how to do your webinar funnel, how to drive traffic, how to do leads, how to close the sale, like I have a cold course that teaches that.

And so some people are coming here and like, "Oh, I want to learn about build a webinar that's way sexier." Then they coming here they're gonna buy the thing on webinars. Which ultimately is gonna help them to grow their company with sales funnels 'cause webinar is the type of funnel or traffic. That's the traffic secrets book. Traffic secrets, like if you have a funnel you need to get traffic to drive to grow your business. So I have this book, traffic secrets that teaches people how to get traffic which ultimately helps them with the ultimate result of trying to get you, which is how to grow your company's sales funnels. 'Cause traffic is one piece of that, copy is one piece that always things are piece of that. So think about your business. Like what is the ultimate result that you offer your clients? The end goal, the end-all be-all.

I want to help people to transform their life I want to help people that whatever they thing might be. So now, break it down. Like, what are the four or five things they have to master or learn? What are the things that are the core results that they're gonna have to learn to be successful with this? So for me, typically, and by the way you can see this here, magic inside my books. First thing I have to learn is how to master funnels. I'm sure you've learned how to master copy inside the funnels. Number three, how to learn to get traffic. So like, if you were writing a trilogy like I did for your business, here's the ultimate result. What are the different books or products or things that are gonna help ultimately, help people to get that ultimate result? And again, I want you brainstorming through this and you're gonna be doing your homework down here. So I'm gonna have you say, "Here's the ultimate result, here's the core results."

Now, the next step after that because this is where we're actually gonna be selling something. And actually when you guys decide to join the one funnel away challenge, actually next week we're doing one funnel challenge. We're starting over from scratch. I'm doing it live just like I'm doing this live. I'm gonna do it live for 30 days. It's a 30-day challenge. And in the 30-day challenge when we focus on taking one of these and actually building out an entire funnel to sell something. This challenge about generating leads. The next challenge is about actually selling something. So the one funnel away challenge I highly recommend you guys when this challenge is over to sign up for that one.

Again, I go live on Monday but I'm going to teach, we're taking this and how to make a sales funnel selling one of your core results you offer somebody. But I'm gonna take more step further. So for your primary lead magnet, lead magnet, you're bringing in, I'm not using this as my lead magnet. I'm gonna go one more tier deep. So under webinar, it was a bunch of these splinter results. So I'm gonna call these splinter results or frameworks. Every step has got 'em. Some would call it splinter/frameworks. I hope, sorry, my handwriting's horrible. But on the one page, guys, you're able to see my actual handwriting. So these are the splinter results. So if you look at this, my ultimate result I'm trying to get people to grow their company with sales funnels.

One of my core results is like I'm gonna show you how to build a webinar funnel 'cause if you have a webinar funnel successful, you're gonna be able to grow your company with a funnel, a webinar funnel. So then inside of webinar if like what are all the pieces? What are the core things? I should look, well, to be successful the webinar, number one, you have to learn how to like actually write a webinar presentation. So that's the core result or excuse me, a splint result is I gotta teach you this one, write this one in black. This is how to actually write your webinar. So for me, my framework here is called the perfect webinar, perfect webinar. That's the framework. Over here, you have a webinar presentation that's awesome. But you also, if you've got the presentation you also need the webinar funnel. If you have the funnel, you also got how do you drive traffic. So there's traffic inside here. There's a bunch of different these sub results. And one of them, one of the frameworks in here is how do people actually show up? If you will actually show up to webinar. So these are all these core. These are all of these splinter frameworks that they have.

Now, your splinter frameworks, these are the key, this is what becomes your lead magnet. The further down you go on this, the sexier the thing becomes because it becomes more and more and more and more specific. The more specific it is, the sexier it is. Your lead magnet wants to be so sexy that people are going crazy, they have to get it. I showed you guys yesterday double your dating, what was the lead magnet? The kiss test, how to find out if, when you're on the doorstep, how to find out if she's ready to be kissed or not. The ultimate results for this person to get married and fall in love. Down here, it's like how to find a girl, down here is the kiss test. The kiss test is sexy. That's the thing like, "Oh, I need to know that framework. I got to figure that thing out." So for you it's like, "What is this, like what is the thing that's the most sexy, exciting, intriguing?"

Someone's like, "I need to know that thing, what is it?" So for the example I'm gonna show you guys tonight in your homework is I decided to pick this right here. I said, "Okay, the one I'm gonna pick is this right here, how to actually show up the webinar." So I took that over here. I said, "Okay, how do you get people to show up the webinar?" What's my framework for that? And I had seven steps. So here's my framework. Step one, step two, step three, their seven steps. Here's seven things I do to get to make sure if you will actually show up for the webinar and then they're prepared to buy from you. And I turn it into a framework. And then from there I turn it into a one pager, one pager. And that became my lead magnet. And somebody saw yesterday, notice was on your homework. Do you see it? I did it ahead of time. Run your homework yesterday, some you saw that.

If you clicked on the second of the three lead funnels, the second one was called, what secret webinar hacks. You clicked on that and you saw this framework. It was the seven things that I do to make sure people actually show up to our webinar and buy. And somebody has opted in that and you got it. You got the one pager of this thing. That was sexy, people who are trying to figure out this whole webinar things like, "Oh, how does this work." Like, "Oh, how do you people show up?" Like, that's a good question. Like, I don't know how to get people to show up. That's the sexy hook, that becomes the lead magnet. Someone's gonna say, "Hey, I'll give you my email address that I need that piece, I need that nugget, that thing you've got like that kiss test, how to show up to a webinar or whatever that thing is." Like, "I need that thing." They give their email address and now you're able to exchange it for them. So that's the core. That's how we make these things sexy. We're pulling out the lead magnet here from the splinter results. And so that's the big secret.

So what I want you guys thinking about in your business is what does this look like? And for all guys can be different. You guys start thinking through it. From a high level, what is the ultimate result you're trying to get for your for your clients? What is that? The ultimate result, that is the thing that's up here on the top of the thing. This is the ultimate result. Now, you break down, you say, "Okay, what are the core results?" There's going to be three, four, five, 10 different core results that all lead to this. And each of those is its own journey, it's its own result.

There'll be four or five mountains you got to get to before you scale Everest. So what are those other mountains? What are these other results you get for somebody? Those are the core results. And then from the core results, it's like, Okay, let me do one more tiered lower. What are all the things that go into the core result? Here's the different frameworks I have, there's four or five frameworks for that. I'm gonna grab this one that becomes the sexy, so that's how it's gonna work. If you think about this, let me go back to my books for a second.

So say "Dotcom Secrets", for example, so my ultimate results help you grow company's sales funnels. This book right here is the underground playbook to grow your company with sales funnels. So this becomes a core result. You buy this book, it's gonna teach you guys the core results about building a funnel. With that core result inside of here there are how many secrets? 28. There's 28 secrets. So for me each secret is a framework. So I could grab, I look at all my 28 frameworks, like which one's the most exciting? There's a whole bunch in here. There's the secret formulas, hook story offer, there's the value ladder, there's attractive character, there's funnel hacking, the seven phases of the funnel, there's followup funnels, there's lead squeeze funnels, survey funnels, summit funnels, book funnels, cart funnels, challenge funnels, VSL funnels, webinar funnels, product launch funnels application funnels, curiosity-based headlines scripts, who, will, why, how scripts, star story solution script, OTO script, there's a perfect webinar script, the product launch script, the four question closed script, the set or closer script, there's click funnels, funnel stacking and funnel audibles. So that's the 28 frameworks inside this book.

So I will look at this. Which one of those 28 frameworks is the most exciting? I'm like, "Okay, what's the one that can be most exciting?" I'm curious for you guys, which one was the most exciting? Would with a secret formula whoever wants secret formula? I could take the secret formula and that becomes the framework that I'm gonna give away, turn into a lead magnet. Or I could take funnel audibles. Somebody goes like, "Oh, what happens if your funnel flops? What do you do?" Boom. I can take the funnel audibles, one. Take the step-by-step framework I have for that one. Turn to one pager, make up a landing page and boom that fast I've got a lead magnet. So start thinking about your business that way. What are all the frameworks of the sub frameworks, the splinter results they're inside of the core thing you're trying to teach people. And in there is the magic. I'm looking, what's the sexiest things to get people to raise their hand, find that thing, pull it out.

Look at here's the step-by-step process. And then we're gonna turn into one pager tonight and this will become a tangible thing that now you can exchange for an email address. Does that makes sense? All right. I'm excited. I got one more thing I want to share with you guys today and I'm gonna give you your homework assignment. So the last thing I wanna share with you guys, I know that a lot of you are coming into this world. You didn't come here as an educator. You came here because you really good at getting this result. And now you're like, "Man, for me to create a league man I've got to educate people, I've got to give them a framework and teach it in a way that gets them excited and make them wanna continue this journey with me. And you're probably nervous. And so I wanna share with you guys a framework that's going to teach you how to actually teach your framework. And this is something I use over and over and over again. And it's my framework for how to teach frameworks.

And so I'm gonna show you guys how this process works because as you start creating a framework your gonna need to know how to do this. So step number one, you take your framework. So here's your framework. You've got your thing and here's your steps. Step one, two, three, four, five, however many steps you got and I don't care. It could be two steps, it could be like some of Tony's here were the three levels of mastery, three mandates, the two primary fears, the two master skills. So your framework doesn't have to be 80 steps. It can be two steps. It doesn't matter if you have your framework. So now you have this framework. How do you teach this?

I remember when I first started developing my own frameworks, I know it was called that time but I remember I was learning this stuff. I was putting it out in my notes. I was like, "I'm gonna teach this." I got invited to speak at a seminar. I remember I got there to seminar I was so nervous, I was so awkward. Somebody hasn't seen the video I had my tie on and my glasses on, a shaved head I was trying to be very businessly. That's what business people do I thought. And I got there to start teaching. And first thing I do is, "Okay, I've got this framework. I know exactly how it changed their lives. I've gone on this path, I got a result. I'm going to give them the result, I'm going to shove it down their throats. I said, "Okay, here we go." I came in, I start teaching the framework. All right, guys, my name is Russell Brunson, step number one, how to be successful, what do you do? Step number two, and I went through my framework. And this framework is something that I had spent years learning and understanding and mastering. It was so important to me.

I remember I met this event teaching two or 300 people, as I'm teaching people I started looking around and the audience is like nodding off. People are falling asleep, people getting up and the walking out of the room. I remember being so frustrated thinking like they don't know like what I'm giving them. Like this is so valuable. I remember there's a scripture in the New Testament where Christ talks about not casting your pearls before swine. And literally that's how I felt. This is this pro I spent two or three years mastering, learning and understanding this result. I know how to do. I'm trying to give it to people. I feel like I was casting my pearls before swine. How frustrating is that for you as an educator? I was ready to quit. I was like, "This is dumb." Like none of you really understand what I'm giving them. Like they understood what I had to learn and understand. Like I literally had to bleed to learn these things for them and they're just like walking away from them. I was so frustrated.

So I did the first event I was like, "That was horrible." I got invited another event, same thing I come in it changes people's lives. Here we go, step number one, Step number two, step number three and people were passing out. I go to the third event and I'm just so discouraged. I'm like, "This is dumb." Like I feel like I'm just wasting my time, wasting their time. I get on stage and start teaching it. I go through the first thing, the second thing, some guy stands up and walks out. I get so mad. I slam my hand down on the desk and everyone sits up. I remember like being kind of shocked I had everyone's anyone's attention. And then the angry Russell came out and I said, "Do you not understand what I'm about to give you guys I'm trying to share this. Somebody just walked out, half of you guys are sound asleep, let me explain to you what I had to go through to understand, to learn this." I started walking through, I had to buy this course and this course, and this course, and I did this, I did this. I lost money here, I have some bankruptcy, I did this. I started going through all the story about how I learned and how I earned this framework. I went through the process and when they were done, when I was done telling that story, I was like, "Now you guys want to hear this?" And they're like, "Uh-huh, we're ready." I said, "Okay, step number one is this boom." And guess what? Nobody moved. Nobody got up, nobody left, nobody fell asleep because now they respected the pearl that I was trying to give to them.

The first step when you are teaching your framework, step number one is you have to tell the story about how you learned it or earned it. If you do not tell the story about how you learned or earned it, they will not respect what you are about to give them. This is the pre-frame that gets them prepared to be worthy of the thing you're trying to give them. This increases the perceived value. Now they're like, "Oh, my gosh he went through all this pain and suffering and torture to get this thing for me, I'm gonna pay attention to it now." So step number one, you tell them the story about how you learned you learned or earned it.

Step number two, now here's where you teach them the strategy. The strategy is the overarching thing. What I'm doing today, this is strategy. This is me mapping out. Here's the strategy of how to do it. I'm teaching this strategy so you understand the concept. Let’s say I'm an army general and I got always these warriors about to go to war, and if I don't tell them the strategy first, like, "Hey, you go over here, you go over here." And start giving them the tactics about where they're gonna go. People were like, "Why am I going over here? This makes no sense." Most of them aren't gonna follow you. You want people to follow you into war.

The first thing I do is explain to them here's the strategy, here's what we are trying to do. When they understand the strategy, now it's like, "Hey, here's the tactics, you go over here, you go over here." Like, "Okay, I'm going over here because I'm part of this. I understand the strategy." So next thing you do is you have to share them the strategy. Do you guys notice that every single day is I'm going live here, what am I doing? I'm teaching you guys the strategy of that part of the framework. I'm not going to the tactics. The homework does the tactics. The homework is like, "Let me log into one pager and do thing." Let me log into ClickFunnels and show you step one and set like, okay, here, I'm showing you the strategy. If you believe in the strategy, then you're gonna go and do anything it takes to go and fulfill on the tactics. If I just give you the tactics though, you're gonna be lost.

So I teach you the strategy. After you understood the strategy, then number three now here's where you give them the tactics. The tactics are like, "Okay, let me show how to do it." Step number one, you gotta go do this. Step number two, like tactics are college. If you're dentist it's like let me teach you how to clean teeth or how to do the thing. The tactics are like the actual, the deep dive, the step-by-step, here's step one, here's step two, here's step three. We're showing them the thing. Tactics are less sexy, but they're the things that people need to be able to the job done. And then the fourth thing after the tactics, then the last thing here , excuse me, is then we show them case studies. Like let me show you how this works in other people's lives 'cause this gives them belief of like, "oh, my gosh, this does work. I see how it works now in practical application" So this is my framework for how to teach frameworks.

So for you guys, when you go tonight and you're like, "Hey, I need to build a framework." You're gonna go build out your framework, your step-by-step process. You going to put it into one page. We have like the things in one page, they've got all this stuff they need but then you got to teach them this framework. You gotta make a video of you showing here's how I learned or earned it. Here's the overarching strategy. Go in the one page down below and fulfill all the tactics. And in some cases, people have done it. This is how you do it. If you look at any chapter in my books, this is what I do. "Dotcom Secrets", chapter one, guess what I do? The secret formula, first thing I do I start with me telling the story about how I learned or earned this concept.

It was 11:27 a.m. on a Monday morning, no matter what I told myself, I just couldn't get out of bed. I tell the story about how I learned or earned the secret formula. Then I told them the strategy, then I walk up through the tactics and they share a case study about how the whole thing works. That's chapter one. They go chapter two, what's chapter two, the value ladder. What do I do? I first tell the dentist story of how I learned or earned it. Then I walked through the strategy. I walked through the tactics or a case study, that's chapter two. I go to chapter three, guess how I do it? Boom. How I learned or earned it, teach the strategy, show them the tactics, do a case study. That's book one, book two, book three. That's how this whole process works over and over and over and over and over again. That's my framework for how to teach frameworks. I do it in a book, I do it in a course. I've done it today for crying out loud. I just come in here like, "Hey, guys let me go and show you guys how to build the framework." How many stories have I told you about how I learned or earned these different pieces? The strategies, things like that. That's the principle.

So this is where we have to start learning how to do. And that is kind of, I think that's the last thing I want to share. All right. How you guys feeling? Are you excited so far? I want you guys to actually pull up the one pager, scroll up really quick. So this is the one pager we're gonna be giving you guys right now. The guys in the background, if you guys can scroll it up so I can see the very top of the page here, that'd be awesome. Hopefully we get them. There we go. So this is the one pager I'm gonna give you. Now, this one pager just you guys are fully aware in all transparency. This one pager is my framework for how to create a lead magnet. I just taught you the strategy. I've told you is how I learned or earned it. I tell you guys the strategy. This framework is gonna be the tactics. And so what's gonna happen. You're gonna see here's the strategy right here. Here's how you create one pager account and then it's gonna walk you through the tactics.

Step number one, who is your dream customer? I taught you the guys the strategy behind that. The tactics you start typing in, your typing what is it gonna be? Step number two, what's the ultimate results. Step number three, what's the core results. Step number four, pick one core result in the three five splints results. Step number five, pick your splinter result. In the seven or six, you're gonna go to one page and actually do it. And I got my second framework down here. This the framework, how to use frameworks? You're gonna fill it out like how did you earn this framework? You're gonna share with people. Explain the strategy, walk through tactics, show the case study. So this one page is going to give you the tactics of how to fulfill on everything we've talked about today.

I want to walk through these so you can understand what we did say was strategy, this is tactics. A lot of people confused like what's the response tactics and strategy. Here, I'm helping you cast the vision of like, "Oh, this is what we're doing." And then over here now, now we're getting to work. Now, we're doing the things. Just go back to the very top real quick. The other thing is that every single one page has a video. This video right here is me doing the tactics. You're gonna see me click on the button or when you click play on this, you're gonna see going. I actually go into a one pager. I build the thing out. I show you like here's step one, here's step two like this is lit, just like yesterday, this is me in my house doing the homework assignment with you. So you can see me doing the tactical like doing every single thing. Here's step one, here's step two. And so literally you can just watch me and just model it.

And so for you guys what I recommend doing is going into one pager as you do this, you take whatever framework you decided, you're gonna plug into one pager, and this video teach kind of how to do that. And then when it's done, you need to record yourself teaching it and you don't have to, you can take videos away in one pager but I highly recommend if you can make a one pager and plugging a video of you teaching this right here. And literally like, this is my one pager for how to make waffle dough at home or whatever. It's about one pager about how to get more clients into my massage cling. This is my one pager about how to publish your music as a band. This is whatever your thing is.

Create one pager and then the video is basically you can go through this. This is Russell, let me tell you a story about how I learned and I earned this framework for you. And some people ask, "What's interesting to learn?" Learn the stuff that you learn by trial and error or excuse me, learning, you learned from somebody like from a teacher or a mentor or you read a book or a course or whatever. I talk about learning and I always give credit where credit's due. If I learned something to somebody else I always tell people that. And that earned it is like I earned it through my own blood, sweat and tears. So how did you discover this framework that you're sharing with them? Tell that story. And then explain the overarching strategy, just what's happened, this is why it's so cool. Here's the tactics. And then actually do the assignment with them. Go through the one page like here's step one, here's step two, do that. And show cases of how you've done that people in past. Record that video and then plug it in boom, right there. And it's simple, easy to do.

Some of you guys who've never done a video before, this will be kind of scary and it's okay 'cause right now nobody's gonna see this besides you. You can get your iPhone click record like, "Hey, my name's Russell." And just go through this as well. It doesn't need to be professional or anything, just teach the framework. And that video of you teach the framework gets plugged right here. And now when they come here, they got the framework they've got the video teaching them, showing them this here. And then down below you got the actual one pager that's gonna be the framework for them. And so that's kind of the game plan. And so this right here, this one page is gonna teach you guys how to actually build your one pager, your lead magnet in one pager, which is kind of cool. Now, one page deciding is just went live today. This is a new software product. There's probably gonna be some bugs and some issues.

Like yesterday you guys all downloaded the one-pagers from yesterday. And we had, I think it was like, I can't remember eight or 9,000 people download it one in one minute. And from that they have like two or 3 million hits to the database. And it was the first time we'd ever actually launched this before. And it kind of crashed a couple times, so you guys may have seen that. So this is a new product. It literally went live today. There's gonna be some issues and things, let us know we're working on making it better but it is insanely cool. As you will see, all my one-pagers for this training have been built in it and he doesn't have a chance to build it. We all set up so you can create your very first one pager for free. So if you're like, "I don't have any money, Russell." That's cool. Just you follow the process, the software that you create your first one for free.

So you get one lead magnet is completely free. You can build it, mess it up, delete it, start over until you've got it perfected and understood. And now you've got a tangible thing. You've turned your framework from just a random framework into something tangible. Now, this framework, this core concept that I have, now it's a framework now I can actually give this analysis a tangible thing. I can give somebody this in exchange for their email address. And that's the secret, that's the power. So under it now I'm gonna have my team put the link down below for you guys get your day number two homework assignment. And links there it is right there, 5dayleadchallenge.com/lead magnet. It'll redirect to this page right here. After the page, you can save it into your one page account and then go and do the assignment. Watch the video, do the things, fill it out, brainstorm, fill in the forms.

I don't just like my dream clients this like think through it, spend some time. Go deep in this, by the time you're done, if you finish this assignment, but time is done, you're gonna have your first one pager. I promise you the very first time it can be frustrating. It's new, it's like, in fact, it's funny. I built six one pagers this weekend for this training. I built day one, day two, day three. Day one I built it I was like, "This is kind of cool, but it looked ugly." And then day two I got better. Day three I got better. By day four like my one-page looks so awesome. I was like, "Oh, I hate day one now." So I went back to day number one, I deleted the whole thing, I started over. And now day one is yes, I actually looked awesome. And I redid day two, which just say now day two looks awesome.

And I keep like, as you keep doing this you'll get better and better and better. But even like looking at my one-pagers look at the one I gave you yesterday, look at the one I'm giving you guys yesterday. And like, this will give you ideas like, "Oh, what you could do like, oh, I could do that. I could try that." And you can just kind of play with it a little bit. And that's kinda how it works. So again, the link down below, 5dayleadchallenge.com/lead magnet. We'll give you the one pager, spend some time today and tonight actually creating a one pager. We need that because tomorrow, day number three in my process to help you guys get the result of getting unlimited leads, day number three is now we got to build your lead funnel. And so if you build your lead funnel, we have to have the lead magnet. So build lead magnet today. Again, you can edit it in the future. You can change, this does not have to be perfect. Just kind of play with it, put it in there. And then tomorrow we build lead funnel.

We'll be taking this lead magnet you build, we'll be plugging into the funnel and now you'll have something you can like send people to, they'll give you their email address. You'll get in the lead magnet and your business start growing. That sound good? I hope this helps you guys. I had so much fun today. I said this was the day I was most excited to teach. I hope that you've got tons of value, information. Hope you guys understand all these pieces. Now, your game plan is to go get the one pager get started on it and then we'll see you guys back here tomorrow, same time, same place to go into day number three of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. Thank you guys so much for participating, for showing up. Do not be late tomorrow. We're going to go again and we'll see you guys all tomorrow. Thanks everybody.

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]]> 3538 no Generating Unlimited Leads... - FDLC: Day 1 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/generating-unlimited-leads-fdlc-day-1-of-5 This is day 1 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I've got something I'm really excited for you guys over the next five episodes. Some of us know I did a live event a couple months back called the Five Day Lead Challenge where I went through the entire process like, how do you create a lead magnet that people will give you the email address for? After you have that lead magnet, how do you then create a lead funnel to be able to generate leads? Then from there, how do you write the emails? And from there, how do you drive traffic? And how do you do traffic for free if you don't want to pay for it? And it was one of my favorite things. In fact, I just went to the page right now and over 1,300 people have shared video number one. This is one that's... It's a hot topic. And I think it's something that's really, really powerful. And so I thought that it would be cool to pull this into the podcast. So that way you guys can start listening to concepts and these principles and hear them over and over again and get these things ingrained inside of your mind. Now, a couple things, number one, this is from a live event. So there'll be times when I'm waving and showing things on a whiteboard and stuff like that you're not able to see obviously on an audio podcast. But if you'd like to see any of this, it's all free at fivedayleadchallenge.com. You can go there and you can see the videos. Plus each day there's homework assignments. There's one pagers you can download and a whole bunch of other cool things. Like I said, if you want to get access to that and see the video versions or get the one pagers or whatever, all you got to do is go to fivedayleadchallenge.com, go opt in for free, and they give you access to all the homework, and the goodies, the bonuses, the prizes, and everything else. But right now I'm guessing you're probably seeing it home, or maybe you're working out, or you're driving. And so while you're doing that, I want to start getting these principles ingrained inside your mind. So with that said, I hope you guys enjoy day number one of the Five Day Lead Challenge. This is all about generating unlimited leads. What does that look like? What's the business model? How does it work? And hopefully, you guys will enjoy this. And on next week's episode, the next episode will go do deeper into actually creating your lead magnet. So enjoy day number one, Generating Unlimited Leads. Oh man, I'm so excited for this. I literally could not sleep last night. I was tossing and turning in my bed and so excited. We've been putting in so much effort behind the scenes for the 5 Day Lead Challenge. I just got a message literally, right as I was walking on stage that we passed 35,000 of you who registered for this challenge, which is crazy. It shows how excited you guys are about what we're talking about. How many guys by the way are excited about we're talking about today? If you are, let me know in the comments down below. I was looking at the comments before we got started and you guys are going crazy. So, I am so excited to be here with you guys today. And this is something you're gonna be doing over the next five days. As you know, this is the 5 Day Lead Challenge. I'm going to be going live every single day at the same time, same place and walk you through the step-by-step process to go start generating unlimited leads inside of your business, and it's going to be a lot of fun. Now, the way it's going to work, this is not going to be something that's going to be a full day thing. You're going to spend five or six hours every single day. This is something I'm gonna be going live every day at this time for probably anywhere from 30 to maybe 45 minutes max. Some days might be even shorter. Okay, my goal during that time is I'm going to be sitting here in front of the whiteboard. I want you guys to understand a strategy. Okay, so I'm going to map out, here's the strategy. Here's how you do it a very certain thing. Okay, and then as soon as it's done, I'm going to give you guys a special link. And that link's going to take you to the thing that we call a one-pager. And the one-pager's is going to give you a tactical video. Okay, so the first half is me showing you guys the strategy that I need you all to understand. Okay, and then I'm going to give you this one-pager and there's a video it's going to walk you through the tactics. The tactics is literally me sitting at my house doing the thing that I'm teaching you how to do. Because a lot of times I'll teach something and people are like, okay, I understand that conception and know how that works, but then they try to do it and I don't know what to do or how to do it. So you'll get a video immediately after this with today's tactics of me sitting in my house doing the assignment I did last night, I recorded it. And so you have a chance to watch that and then just follow along and copy what I do. Shouldn't take anywhere. Some assignments are short, they will take you probably 15 minutes. Tomorrow's going be a little bit longer. But hopefully my goal is about an hour to an hour and a half every single day. If you block that out every single day over the next five days, by the end of day five, you guys will have a machine that's created to help you generate leads. Okay, and it's going to be a lot of fun and I'm excited. So you guys, and I know you guys are excited. So, we have 35,000 of you who have registered for this. So if you're excited, let me know in the comments down below, because I love feeling the energy and I can see all your faces right now. It's just fun to see what we're doing. So that's kinda the game plan. Throughout this week, I've also got two guest speakers who are coming. I'll be teaching day one, day two, day three. And then day four, I'm going to be bringing one of my friends, Yara Golden's going to be coming up. And she's going to be talking about email copy. And after you're generating these leads, what do you actually say to them? Right, how does that work? And then day five on Friday, Rachel Miller is going to be coming. She's actually flying here to Boise to spend time with you guys to talk about how do you launch your lead funnel. How do you get leads coming in and how do you do it in a way with free traffic? Okay, because a lot of people, some guys who are here like, oh, this is awesome. I don't have money to invest right now. I don't have a budget. So we're going to show you how to launch this thing and start generating leads for free. That's going to be happening on Friday. So by the time this thing is done, all the pieces will be in place and leads will be coming in. And you'll have new leads coming into your business within five days from now. So that's my big promise to you. That's my goal. And so it's going to be a lot of fun. I only ask that you guys play full out, do the assignments, pay attention to the strategy, show up every single day for this strategy dump I'm going to be giving you guys. Show up, listen to it, understand it. When I give you the one-pager, go watch the tactical video, and then actually do the assignment. Okay, if you actually do it, you're gonna be successful at the end. The biggest problem I have with people who come to any of these programs or coaching or they buy a course or whatever is they listened to it like, oh, this is really good. They listen to it. They listen to it. And they never do anything. Okay, this is not one of those kind of courses. This is not something for you to listen to and feel good about. This is something I'm going to give you guys. Here's the strategy. Here's the tactics, go and do it. Come back tomorrow. We'll do the next step. I'm going to be piece by piece by piece until you've got the entire system. Everything you guys need to be successful. Does that sound fair? All right, so that is the game plan and I'm not going to lie, there's so many of you guys on, I just want to talk all day today. But I'm not going to do that. We're going to keep it short because I want to make sure you guys have a chance to get to work and do today's assignment and get ready and prepared for tomorrow. But you've got to commit to coming back every single day. Okay, this is five days. If you commit for five days, by the end of it, I promise you, guys, we can mold you, we can change you. And we can give you guys a result. That's going to change your business. And for a lot of you guys, it's actually gonna change your life as well. Okay, but you've got to commit. So how many guys right now can make a commitment that you're gonna commit to show up every single day. Number one, okay, raise your hand and say, I commit, Russell! I'm going show up every single day and watch the strategy training. Okay, that's the first commitment. The second commitment is, as soon as the training's over, I'm going to go through the tactical. I'm going to implement the thing you actually told me to do. Okay, and you're going to do it with belief that it's actually going to work. One of the biggest things that is going to impede some of your success, is some of you guys are skeptics, right? How many of you guys have ever considered yourself, oh I'm always skeptical? I'm always making sure that everything's going to be perfect. I guarantee you that a lot of guys are skeptical. In fact, most people I know who are skeptical, never have success. The people who have success, are people who get a coach and then they believe in that coach, and they do what the coach says. Okay, being coachable is one of the most powerful tools that you're going to have in your arsenal to be successful. So if you're typically someone who's very skeptical in life, oh I'm always skeptical about things, I want to encourage you to take your skepticism for five days and just put it on the side and say, look for five days, I'm just going to trust Russell 100%. I'm gonna assume that he's knows what he's doing. I'm going to assume he's been doing this for a long time. This isn't the first rodeo. I'm assuming he's got my best interests at heart because I'm not paying anything for this, right? The 5 Day Lead Challenge is completely free. My job is for the next five days is completely to over-deliver it and to blow your minds. And so if you will just be, take your skepticism and put them on side and just do the process. Just do your best. Just try it out. I promise you by the time, day five is done, you'll believe because it'll work for you. Okay, and that's kind of my game plan. Again, my goal in this entire process is not to waste any of your time. I know all of our time is precious. And so that's why these are going to be short sessions. We're going to give you what you need and then get to work and give you guys a result before it's over. Does that sound good? Okay, so I want to kind of, today's kind of an overarching strategy. I want you to understand where we're going. I want you to understand here's the broad picture of what we're trying to accomplish. And after you have the broad picture, then day two, day three, day four, day five is going to be, okay here's step one, step two, step three, step four. And everything we got to do to execute. So that's my game plan. So to begin with, I'm going to cover some fundamental things. Some of you guys may have heard some of these concepts before, some of you may not have. But this is the key thing you have to understand if you're going to be successful in this 5 Day Lead Challenge. But honestly, to be successful in business as a whole. When I first got started in this business, one of my very first mentors said this to me. And I, my guess is some of you have probably heard this before, but he said is this. He said, Russell, you have to understand that in business, the money is in the list. How many of you guys have heard that before? This is not a new concept. But for me, it was like, when I heard that, I was like, what does that mean? What does it mean, the money's in the list? Like, I don't understand that. I'm in business, I sell products. I sell services, right? They said, no, you don't understand like, the list, like the customers, the people that you have, this is your real business. The fact that I was able to send out a couple emails, we got 35,000 people to register for this live event. You guys are my list. I send emails to my list and you showed up to this event where I have a chance to teach you and to train you, right. The money's in the list, like that's the asset that's the most powerful. So, one of my first mentors told me that and I was like, okay, that's kind of cool, but I don't know what that means. Like, what is the list, right? And the list is just a bunch of leads. One lead is a person. 10 is a bunch of leads. A hundred or a thousand. That's a list of people. Okay, and so the list is the key. So in the Lead Challenge, it goes, you've generated a whole bunch of leads to the point where you've actually built up a list. Now, to kind of preface this before we get too deep in anything, I want you to understand the value of a list. Okay, what is the list actually worth? Okay, so when I got started, one of my first mentors, he told me is he said, Russell, you have to understand basic marketing math. And so this was what he said. He said, as you start your business, he's like, the numbers will change. This is not an income claim. This is just kind of the numbers a lot of people see inside of the industry. It says that you should be able to average $1 per name per month, that's on your email list. Okay, and so they told me that and I was like, well, how does that work? And I didn't understand at first. And I'm sure some of you guys won't understand like, well, how does an email equal a dollar per month? Okay, and don't worry, I'll walk you through that and you'll kind of see that, but that's what they told me. So they said, okay. So that means, they said, well, that means if you have a thousand people on your list, you should be able to make a thousand dollars a month. Right, and if you had 10,000 people on the list, you should make about $10,000 a month. If you have a 100,000 people on list, $100,000 a month and so on. And so I remember hearing that and I was like, oh my gosh, this is amazing. Now, I was in college at the time. I remember looking at these numbers. I was like, okay, well my goal, I remember my goal at the time was if I can make six figures a year, that'd be like what my parents make. That'd be insane. So I said, okay, this is my goal. If I can get 10,000 people on a list at $10,000 a month, $10,000 a month, times, 12 months, that's $120,000. That's six figures in a year. And that was my goal. And so I was like, I gotta figure this out. I didn't know how to get a list. Nobody told me, I just knew that I needed to list. Right, that was like, okay, I need leads, I need a list. And so some of you guys may have heard this story but after I heard that, I was like, okay, like at all costs, I need 10,000 people or 100,000. I need to get these people on my list so I can make money. And I didn't know how to do that. So I remember, and this is actually a picture. This is my very first house. My wife and I lived in after we got married. A year after we got married, we bought this duplex. And I remember I was actually right here, these windows one of the bedrooms and in those bedrooms was my was my little computer desk. I was trying to learn how to start my business. And I remember I was sitting there and I said, okay, I need to figure out how to get a list. Right, it was in this house that I got this principle from somebody. And so, I remember going and and searching online, how to build an email list. How do you buy a list? I remember eventually I found this website. I think it was like, it was called like SpamForEmailAddresses.com or dot net or dot something. And it was like, we'll sell you a DVD with I think a million people's names on it for like $60. And I was like, wait a minute 6 million people's names and email addresses. And I'm doing the math, I'm like, okay, well, my friend said $1 per month per name on an email list. If I buy this list for $60, that's a $1,000,000 a month I can make. I'm doing the math in my head. I'm freaking out. I'm like, this is, I figured it out. Like, this is like, I know how to how to build a business now, right? So I remember, I bought the DVD. They sent it to me, I ended up getting in the mail. It had a million people's email lists on it. I took it off. I downloaded the Excel sheet and I was so excited. It took me a couple of days to figure out how do you load it on a computer? How do you send these emails out? And I had to figure this whole thing out. And I remember the night that I queued up the emails, the software my computer had a million people's emails in this thing. And I told my wife. At the time my wife was supporting me. Okay, that was my story. I was wrestling at Boise State University. So, I was a college kid with $0. My wife was supporting us. And I remember, I told her that and I was like, Hey, this is the deal. I'm going to send an email, send out this email list. It's going to go out to a million people and money's gonna come flooding in. And I'm like, you can literally quit your job tomorrow if you want to. And she was like, oh, okay. Like, like good luck, Russell. You know, like super supportive. I didn't know what was gonna happen. And she was like, okay, I don't think we're going to make what you're thinking but you know, good luck, have some fun with it. And so I queued up the emails. I remember, still writing an email, clicking send and then watching the first email. Like one send, two, three, four, five, six and I was like, this is it. Like, I figured it out. Right, I beat the internet. And I remember going to bed that night like just laying in bed all excited, like dreaming. It was like a kid going to bed on Christmas morning. What's going to happen? Being so excited, like in the morning. What if, what if 1% of people buy something? What if only half of 1% buy? And I started doing all the math in my head and just dreaming about what was possible. I remember the next morning I woke up, and I, firstly, I ran out of my bed, and walk to the computer, I look at the computer. And overnight, I think like 6,500 emails had been sent. And at first I was frustrated. I'm like, oh, why is this taking so long? Like, I want all these million emails to be out because that means I'm going to be rich when it's all said and done. And about the time my wife came in and she was like, Russell, I need to use the phone. I was like, why? She's like, I need to call the office, where she worked at like, no, like you can't like, we're making money here! You should just quit. Just don't show up. It's going to be awesome. She's like, I need to call someone. So, this is back in the days before internet before we all had internet access. If you remember this, so those of you who are old school like me, we had a modem and it was plugged in. So I had to like, climb under the desk, go unplug the modem, plug her phone back in. And as I was underneath, I plugged the phone back, all of a sudden, like the phone starts ringing while I'm still under the desk. I was like, that's weird. So I crawl out from the desk. I come and answer the phone. And on the other end, there's this person screaming at me and yelling. And I'm just like kind of confused. And eventually I realized it's my internet service provider. Okay, the person who pipes the internet into my house that I was sending out emails through. And they're yelling like, in the last like four hours, there was like 65 spam complaints from you, blah, blah, blah, blah. What's happening? Like, freaking out. And I don't know, I mean, no, no, sir. You don't understand. No, sir. You don't understand. Like, I bought the email addresses. from SpamFreeEmailAddresses.com. These people want to get spam. And the person yells at me and remember the last thing they said before they threatened lawsuits and stuff said, son, that's the definition of spam. I was like, what? But they said, you just need an email list. I was so confused. So, eventually after they yelled at me for a long time and threatened lawsuits, they went and actually shut my internet access off. And I lost my internet account. And I remember I held it, like hanging the phone up and my wife, my beautiful wife, Collette she's like, so who was that on the phone? I'm like, oh no one, please don't quit your job today. Like, let's roll it a couple more days. And so anyway, that day I remember like being so frustrated. And I remember I couldn't check my email because I lost the internet access. And I was still a student at Boise State University at the time, so I put my backpack on. I started walking to school, all depressed and sad. I got to the computer lab at the school and opened my email. And then the craziest thing happened. I opened my email. And you know, I always see emails from people trying to sell me stuff. And it was the first time I ever opened my email and they're like five or six orders that had come in over the night. And I was like, wait, what? I started looking at sure enough, five or six people had bought the thing that I had sold through the email. I remember just being like, oh my gosh, this worked. I did it the legal way. But like, it worked. Like, okay, I gotta figure this out. Like, how do I, like, how do I do a list that's not illegal? Right, I don't want to go buy leads. That's not how you do it. Like, how do you generate a list of people who actually want to hear from you? And I started freaking out, I got excited. And that became the question. Okay, the question was, how do I generate leads and how do I build my own list? Okay, that was the question that started running through my head. How many of you guys have that question in the past? Or you have right now, like, okay, I want leads too. If we can make a dollar per month per lead, like I want a bunch of leads in my business as well. Right, how many of you guys are thinking about that? That was my question. That became my quest. Like, okay, how do I generate leads? How do I build a list? I got to figure this out. I was working, trying to figure it out. I was looking bunch of stuff. And eventually I heard rumors about this guy. His pen name was David DeAngelo. I've met him since then. I've become friends with him, his name's Eben Pagan. And at the time, he had a business called Double Your Dating. And I heard rumors. I don't know what the numbers were. People like to say. Yeah, he's making tens of millions of dollars a year and all this kind of stuff. And, so I was trying to research everybody. I remember going to his website and I went to his website. What I saw was something I'd never seen before. Okay, this is what the website actually looked like. It was this little page right here. Okay, and I remember reading said, you're about to learn the secrets that most men will never know about women. And I was like, okay. And it said, inside, you're going to learn the Kiss Test, how to tell if she's ready to be kissed. I remember reading that. I was like, whoa, what is the Kiss Test? I want to know what that is. Okay, now putting this in context of my own personal timeline. About the time I'm reading this, I had just gotten married to my beautiful wife. We'd married about a year. I just got our internet access shut down, all of these things. And I'm looking at this page, I'm like, this is amazing. And I was like, I want to put my email address in there to see what in the world, the Kiss Test is. But I'm like, wait, if I put my email address in on this dating website, teaching men how to get women, what's my wife gonna think? I remember being like, torn. Like I want to funnel hack this person. I want to go and see what's happening behind the scenes. But if I do that, it's going to be weird for my wife. So I remember that night, like waiting for her to come home from work, she was supporting me. And she came home and I was like, Collette, I need to ask you a favor. I think she was kind of nervous. I'm like, there's this website that is doing something cool. This guy has got this huge email list. I don't know. I don't understand what he's doing or how he's doing it. But I want to like put my email address in to understand what he's doing. Can I do that? And she's like, yeah. Why would you care? I'm like, because it's a site teaching people how to pick up girls. And she's like, what am I? I know, I don't even know. I suppose to see what he's doing. I need to understand the process. And so we kind of laughed about it. And so she came with me and I came to this page and I, together, we opted in. So I put in my first name, my email address, and I clicked submit to get instant access to find out what the Kiss Test was. So I did that and I'm waiting on the next page to be blown away by like some video or some training course or something. But on the next page, all it was, this little page looked like. It was like an article, maybe a page and a half, two page article. And at the very top, it said, this is the Kiss Test. Let me teach you how it works. Okay, now again, I was married at the time. So I didn't, I hadn't been on a date outside of my wife for a long time. So I didn't try to put myself in the context. If I was a single guy who was struggling to get girls, like how valuable would this information be to me? And so this is where the Kiss Test was. David DeAngelo said, what do you do, at the end of the date, you walk a girl up to the door. Okay, and as you're sitting there, this is the awkward spot. Right, do I kiss her? Or no, one of us freaks out and they want to run away. He said, this is the secret. He said, all you need to do is go up there and you put your hand behind her hair. Like, you're gonna put your hair behind her ear. Okay, and if she pulls back, that means don't kiss her, run as fast as you can. Okay, but as she turns her head into your hand, that's the key that she's ready to be kissed. And then boom, you go for the move. And that's the Kiss Test. I remember reading that as like, oh my gosh, like that it wasn't this huge long report or PDF. It was like a paragraph. It was this little paragraph right here saying, this is the Kiss Test and I remember reading that I was like, if I was a single guy right now, I just received value. I was like, oh my gosh. That was really, really cool. What else does this guy have? And if he kept reading the page at the bottom he's like, Hey, if you want another tip like this, go buy my ebook called Double Your Dating, click there. And it took you to go buy his ebook, which had a whole bunch of different tips and secrets like that. And I remember looking at and I studied this over for like weeks. I'm like, this is how this guy's building this huge list. He's got this weird website that the only thing you can do is put your email address in and next page, he gives you this really cool thing that dudes really, really want. And like, this is how he's built this huge email list of hundreds, of thousands of people. And makes millions of dollars a year. And so the more I looked at it, the more I was trying to figure out how does this work? I need to put these pieces together. And what I realized and what I kind of find out as I started learning more about this is that this Kiss Test, right? This thing right here, that he had created. This is what we call a lead magnet. Lead magnet is something that's going to draw. It's going to attract your dream customers to you. Okay, and a lot of you guys have heard of a lead magnet before, but this is one of the keys to building your own list is the lead magnet. Something that people want. Okay, so for him, he's in the market of like, I need to figure out how to pick up girls. Okay, the lead magnet was the Kiss Test. I'll teach you the Kiss Test if you give me your email address, okay. I'm going to exchange this thing for you. Okay, and that was the lead magnet. Okay, so I started thinking for my business, who are my dream customers? What do they look like? Like, what are those people like that I wanted to bring into my world? Who is my dream customer? I start thinking, what is the lead magnet I could create that would get those people attracted to me? Where they're on the internet surfing on their phones, swiping through, all of a sudden they saw something like, whoa, I want that thing. I want to learn the Kiss Test. I want to learn the, whatever the thing is. And that lead magnet thing gets them to stop scrolling, click on a button, come over to you, give you their email address, and now they become a lead. Okay, and the more leads you get, you started building this list. Okay, and the value in your business is your list. That is the key. Okay, so after seeing this, I was like, okay, this is the game. I know how to play now. Now that I knew the rules, I knew how to play so I'm not spamming who people don't want to hear from me but I'm getting people who are interested, who come to me because I have value. Okay, this is how we build the list of people who actually want to hear from me. Okay, so I did what hopefully you guys are going to be doing this week, as well. I said, okay, I'm going to go and create my first lead magnet. I'm gonna set up a lead squeeze funnel. I'm going to do exactly what he's doing. Okay, so I did that. Okay, I modeled it as close as I could. I build up my very first lead squeeze funnel. I put it out there and I launched it. And I want to come back to these numbers 'cause these numbers were actually interesting. Initially for me, my numbers almost synced to what I was told earlier from one of my friends. Okay, I still remember the very first month that I started, that I had my first lead magnet. I was driving traffic. The very first month, I got 217 people who opted in. I don't know why I remember that number. I think it's 'cause it was like, I was freaking out like 217 people. Like, that's a lot of people who have given me their email address. Now they're on an email list. I can send emails to talking about the products and the services I want to sell. And that first month, I said 217 people joined my list, and I made about $300 that month. Okay, now for me, as a college kid, $300 a month. $300 my very first month was insane. Like that was just like, I couldn't even, I couldn't even fathom. Like I feel like I was the richest kid in the world. Now, to put this in perspective. At that time, my wife and that blue house we were living in, that I showed you earlier. That was a duplex. I bought that duplex because I wanted to make cashflow. So I spent, I don't know $150,000 on this duplex. We lived in half. We had a renter in the other half and the renters paid us. And my cashflow on that rental was like $150, $200 a month. Right, and I remember thinking I made for my 217 person email list. I made almost double what I did it my real estate. On my real estate, I spent $150,000 to buy this thing to cashflow like $150, $200 bucks a month. Whereas here, I'd built a list of 217 people. And I cash flowed double that. And for me at that point, I was like, I am all in. I'm going to put all my eggs in this basket of I got to figure out how to grow lists. How do I do it? And so I started driving more and more traffic. And by month number two, excuse me, month number two, I'd built an email list. My list had gone from 217 people to about 5,000 people. Okay, and sure enough, that month I made about $5,000 in my business. Okay, and I was like, how do I grow this bigger? Right, reinvest that money into generate more leads and more leads. And eventually my list went from 5,000 to 10,000 to a 100,000 to now we have lists of multiple millions of people. Which is why you can send an email and get 35,000 people to come and register. Our list has grown so big. Okay, now a couple of interesting things. My friend told me this, like, if you average $1 per name per month, that that is definitely like a good standard but it's honestly, it's very, very low. Okay, and what I learned over the last almost two decades of doing this now is that there is a direct correlation between how much money you make and the relationship you build with that list. Okay, you don't have to have a list of a million people to make millions of dollars. In fact, a lot of times, if you've got a local business, like some of you guys here that are registered run restaurants. You've got local businesses. Like there's not a million people in your city, right. If you're Boise, Idaho, and you're a chiropractor or dentist or a masseuse or something here, you're not going to get a million people on your list. That's okay. But if you get a thousand people on your list, man, you're going to average a lot more because you can build a better relationship with somebody locally than you can virtually. In fact, I've seen dentists and chiropractors who average hundreds of dollars per name per month on their list as well. But the key still is getting leads. The more leads you get and the bigger that list grows. Now I want you understand this is true for every business. One of the big questions I got a lot from people as we were launching this and putting on this lead challenge was, well, Russell, again, I'm a network marketer. Like I don't sell my own product. Like, will this work for me? Or Russell, I am a chiropractor. How would this work for me? Or I'm a dentist. Or in fact, my brother who hopefully is watching this right now. My brother runs a band. He's got a label. And he told me, I was like, you should come be part of the 5 Day Challenge. He's like, it doesn't make sense for me. My business is different. I'm like, does your business need leads? Every business needs leads. I don't care what business you're in, it's not different. This process works for every single business. Right now, on Click Funnels, as of today, we have over 120,000 active members. Every business, every industry you can dream of. Okay, every one of those businesses needs two things. They need leads and need to sell stuff. Okay, so if you need leads, this is the process. I don't care if you are starting a new business, if you've got a huge business that needs tens of thousands of leads a day. Or if you're a business you need 20 leads. This process will work for you. It does not matter. It works in every business. I promise you, we've done this over and over and over and over again. This is not my first rodeo. Okay, and so I want you guys to understand that like no matter what kind of business you're in, you're going to need leads. And so, anyway, I'll kind of start there and I won't go too much on my rant. I want you guys to understand that. Okay, so I'm gonna walk you guys through the system. The system we're gonna be talking about over the next couple of days. So, the first part in this process that we're going to be going through, this is going to be what we're going to be spending all the time on tomorrow. The first step here is, we're all going to create your very own lead magnet. Okay, and we're spending a lot of time tomorrow going into that. So, I'm not going to go too deep right now. But that's the first step, is creating a lead magnet. I don't care what business you're in. You need to have a lead magnet. A lead magnet is a thing that gets people to raise their hand to come to you. It's the Kiss Test. It's this challenge is a lead magnet for me. All these things, you're creating a lead magnet to get somebody in. And again, I'm gonna spend a lot of time tomorrow going deep into this, but I want you understand, I don't care what business you're in. You always can create lead magnets. This is how a lead magnet works. Okay, if you think about your business right now, this is your dream customer. This is the person that you want to attract. If you think about this, typically when you're trying to attract somebody into your business, you're trying to get somebody where you know something they don't know right now. And so, I always look back and say, okay, in every business, every business has some result that they promise a client, right? So up here, this is a mountain. Let's say this is a big result you offer somebody. So this is the result. And so what you're doing is, you're trying to get these people right here to come to get this result. So, let me do this for a couple of different businesses, right? So let's just say you are a dentist. What is the big result you promising somebody? If you're a dentist, you probably say, my result. I'm gonna promise you. I'm going to help you get clean teeth that are white, that are straight, that are amazing. If you're a chiropractor, we're gonna teach you guys. The result you're promising people is to get out of pain and get an aligned spine. If you're in the dating market, your result is to get a date for your client. There's there's all these things, right? Every single business there's a result. Okay, if I don't care what it is, if you're, yeah. I'm not gonna go too deep in this. I want you guys think about it for your own business. But every business there's results. What's the result that you're promising your client. Okay, think about that. Like what's the result you're promising your dream client when they come into your world? Now the cool thing about this is my guess is this was you at one time, and then you went and you actually achieved this result. You got this result. You finished it. And as you did that result, there was a process you went through. There were steps. Step one, step two, step three, step four. There was these steps you took to get the result. There's the step-by-step process. That helps them get this result. And now that you know that process, what we do is we say, okay, here's the process to get this certain result. Okay, you come back here. So, okay, I'm going to create this thing. This is my lead magnet. Lead magnet. It's going to walk you through the process to get the result. Here's the first step. Here's the second step. Here's the third step. Here's the four step. So again, in the example from Double Your Dating, the lead magnet was, I'm going to show you guys the Kiss Test. How to kiss a girl. Know if you're gonna kiss a girl. That's the result that he was promising here inside of his lead magnet. And all lead magnet was like, okay, now let me walk you through the steps. Step number one, you walk her to the doorstep. Number two, you go like this. Step number three. And so you walk them through the process to get the result you're promising them. So every lead magnet is tied to some result. Here's the result you're going to get if you give me your email address. And so we're gonna spend a lot of time tomorrow going into this and I'm going to walk you guys through the process of how we figure out what is the right result. What's the one that's gonna be most powerful lead magnet that will draw this person towards you. So I said that's going to be the game plan we're going to go deep on tomorrow. I'm so excited for that session. And then after we figured out how to create this. how to create this actual lead magnet, I'm going to show you is how to take this concept, this framework that you're creating, and how do we put it into something that's tangible. Okay, and tomorrow we'll be giving you guys a software tool that'll be really cool. I promise you guys, there's gonna be two software tools you guys get for free while you hang out during the live events. The first one, I'm going to give you guys tomorrow. And it's going to take this abstract framework abstract idea that you have and turn it into a physical thing. A physical lead magnet that people will give you their email address for. It's gonna be fun. Okay, so that's the first step here. Oops, the first step here's this process is creating the lead magnet. Okay, and so I've got a couple examples here on my slides. So this is an example. This one is super simple. This is Brendon Burchard. A lot of you guys know Brendon. This is one of his lead magnets. It's called the one-page productivity planner, used by CEOs and achievers worldwide. Okay, again, like the Kiss Test, Kiss Test is a paragraph. This is a one-page productivity planner. Your lead magnet does not need to be this huge extravagant crazy hard thing. It can be like, here's the five steps to get a whiter smile, get your teeth cleaned by, in a weekend, right? Or make your smile whiter in a weekend. It could be the five steps to be more productive as an event planner. It could be like, figure, like, what is your business, right? You think about who is your dream customer? What's the thing that you could create for them that is going to get them to want to give you their email address. Tomorrow, I'm going to brainstorm a whole bunch of ideas. So, you don't have to you won't have to stress about what that thing is. Okay, because tomorrow I'm gonna give you guys a framework. We'll take you through to figure out exactly what that lead magnet needs to be. That's gonna be the most impactful and the most powerful, okay? But this is example is very, very simple. Lead magnet like that. This is a lead magnet. A lot of you guys have seen this. This is my Marketing Secrets Blackbook. This is a bunch of, it's a little black book with a bunch of different marketing secrets in it. And it's this lead magnet we created and we give it away for free to get people's email addresses. Okay, so that's the first step right there. The very first step is creating a lead magnet. And that's what we're doing tomorrow. Okay, all right. That's step one. Step number two. After you create the lead magnet, then we need to create the process. The funnel is actually going to turn this and it's going to get somebody to give me their email address. So this is called the lead funnel. And based on this criteria, they put in their email address. Click submit And this person now becomes a lead. Okay, so step number two, after we create the lead magnet, this is going to be tomorrow. This is day two. Then day three, we're going to build out the lead funnel. And I actually literally myself, pre-built out six of these funnels for you guys that I'm going to show you guys, that I'm going to give you guys on Wednesday. Okay, and so this is how it works. This is Brendon's again, the lead funnel is the most simple funnel of all the funnels, which is really exciting. Step number one, it's like, Hey, I'm going to give you this free thing. If you give me your email address. They then give you the email address and the next page you give it to them. Very simple, very easy. It's not difficult at all. And so we're going to show you is that. This is again, my Marketing Secrets Blackbook one. This one of the most simple lead funnels we've ever created. If you look at this, actually this pitch was probably six months ago, but in the first year this was live, it generated 272,000 leads. It took me less than five minutes to put together this landing page. 272,000 leads. You guys see the number right there. Think about it from the math I told you guys about earlier. By creating this two-page photo, I gave yourself a $272,000 a month raise, right? If I was following the stats and numbers I'd showed you guys earlier. Can we understand like this is the power. You create something like this, and it can generate leads on. You can generate leads where you consistently day in and day out, over and over and over again. And so this is a very simple, it's a two-step funnel. In fact, this funnel right here, I'm going to give you guys this exact funnel so you can just copy. Take your lead magnet, take mine out, plug yours in, and you can be off to the races very, very quickly. So again, day two, tomorrow we build the lead magnet. By the time tomorrow is done, it's not going to be, okay, I got to build my lead. By the time tomorrow's done, your lead magnet will be finished. It'll be complete. It'll be cool. It'll be creating a really cool tool that'll make it very powerful people. Okay, day three, we'll build out your lead funnel. It'll be finished. And then you can plug in your lead magnet. These two pieces will be done by Wednesday. Okay, and then Thursday comes in, the question is like, okay, Russell, you said that when traffic comes in here, we're start making money off the leads. How do you make money off of leads? Well, the way you make money off of leads is they give you the email address, they come down here and then guess what? These people 'cause everyone would give us an email address is a person, these are all human beings, right? They put the email address in and now you have an email sequence you start sending out. So, you send an email right here. And the next day, you send another email, right? You send out these different emails to build a relationship with them. Okay, and if you do the emails the wrong way, what'll happen is you'll send two emails and people never open your emails again. If you do it the right way, people will look forward to emails. They'll whitelist you to make sure that your emails show up, right? So there's a right way and a wrong way. So on Thursday, Yara is gonna be coming to teach you guys her six email sequence. What are the most powerful six emails you can send out somebody as soon as they give you the email address. These are the emails that have been tested. They've been proven. If you structure them the right way, it'll build the relationship with your audience. They'll be more likely to open emails in the future. And they're going to buy the products and services you sell. Okay, and the cool thing is we actually built software for this as well. So on that day, for those who show up live here, you're going to get the software, we're basically fill in blanks. You click a button. It'll pre-write these six emails with your stories weaved into them, and then you just copy and paste them. Now you've got those in as well. So that's what's going to be happening on day number four. Let's see, I'll put it here on blue. It's day four, we're working on the email sequences. All right. And the day number five. Let me show you this real quick. So, here we go. So this is what it looks like from a standpoint over here. Leads come in, they put an email address in there, and you start sending emails. So here's how you write the emails right here. So this is the first email that goes out and the second. And as they go through, day one they get this email. Day two, they get this email. Day three, day four, day five, day six. What walks them through this process of getting these emails. Each email takes them and builds that relationship. So then we're more likely to buy from me in the future. Remember, when I told you guys before on average, you should average $1 per month, $1 per name per month on your list. Okay, if you do this the right way, this is how you build the relationship with how much you make per person will dramatically go up based on the relationship you have with them. It's these first six emails are critical. They're the key, we're going to literally teach you them, give you the software to write them, and you'll have them done. That will be done on Thursday, which is pretty exciting. Okay, so that's happening there. And then the last step now is okay, I've got the machine, everything's built. I've got my lead magnet. It's amazing, I got my landing page here. I've got the emails going out. Now, the last step is how do we get traffic to start coming to me? So, we start getting traffic. How do we get traffic from here and from here? And there's a million different ways to get traffic, right? In fact, a lot of you guys know, my third book is called Traffic Secrets and there's a million ways to get traffic that I talk about in there. But I wanted to start with something that's simple. Okay, a lot of you guys are coming to this. You don't have a huge budget, right? You're not sure how to generate leads. And so Rachel Miller's coming on Friday and she's going to show you guys ways to generate leads that don't cost any money. How do you generate traffic is not going to cost you a ton of money to get people coming in here, putting the email address in, to get your lead magnet, following up with them. And so the whole process will start working for you. And so Friday, we're gonna focus on launching your funnel. And that's the last step here in the 5 Day is on Friday, we're launch your funnel and get this whole thing working for you. So this is where we're going this week. This is the process you guys, okay. Again, we're going to build out your lead magnet, get your lead squeeze funnel figured out, write out your five day email, excuse me, your six day email sequence. We're going to launch to get traffic in. And if we can accomplish this by the end of this week, that's the goal. That's my game plan. And each of you guys will have a process. You'll have a system in place to continually generate leads inside your business. I have so many friends who, at one point in their business, they had to generate leads, right? A lot of you guys when you first start your business, you get to college and go, Hey, I'm gonna start my store or my business or whatever. You create it. And you launch it and you do all the advertising, all the efforts and stuff and leads start coming in and guess what happens? You start getting busy. Now, I got a service all these clients. I got to service things and you stop focusing on generating more leads. And what happens eventually? Eventually your business dries up Leads, customers, traffic coming into your business. This is the lifeblood of your business. If your business is struggling, especially during these crazy times are now, my guess is because you don't have any life. You have any blood coming into your business. You don't have new leads coming in consistently. This is the key, is the new leads coming in consistently. So my job, my goal with you guys is to create this process, get it set up. And now leads will continually be coming in. And I don't care in the backside of here. I don't care what it is you're selling. If you're selling, if you're in network marketing, this process will work for you. And at the end of this, you will get people to sign up for, to be a distributor underneath you. If you're selling physical products, I don't care. Follow this process. By the time it's done, people will buying more of your physical products. Okay, if you're a coach and author, speaker, like whatever it is, I don't care what business you're in. If you're a masseuse, if you're running a band, if you're doing like whatever. It does not matter what kind of business you're in. Every business needs leads. This is the way you get leads. And it works consistently in every business, every industry we've tried. And so I want you guys to take that out your, of like, oh, that sounds good, Russell. I've heard this before. This is more for my type of business, whatever. Take the skepticism. Take it, put it on the shelf, and just trust me. Tomorrow, we're going to go deep into building your lead magnet. If any of you guys are like, this won't work for me because my business is different. I'm going to show you guys how to break down what you do into the right kind of lead magnet that will attract anybody. It'll attract your dream customers to you. And so that's kind of the goal and game plan. So I'm excited. This is the game process what we're going to doing this week. Does that sound good? You guys all on board for that? Okay, so let me walk you guys through what to expect for the rest of the week. So again, what's going to be happening is every single day at the same time, I'm going to be going live from the stage, talking to you guys. So there it is, that's going to be happening every single day. And again, all the things, we're about 40 minutes right now. It's going to probably, probably 30 minutes mostly. It's going to be a 30 minutes session. I'm going to give you a strategy. Here's the strategy you got to understand. And then after that, I'm going to give you a thing called a one-pager. This is what the one-pager looks like. And about a minute from now, I'm going to give you guys the one pager for day number one. Your job with these one-pagers is not to sit around and like do nothing with it. It is to come here immediately and first off, watch the video at the top. The video here at the top, this is me at my house doing your assignment each day. Today's assignment's very simple as you will see. Tomorrow's assignment, I'm going to literally build out an entire lead magnet with you. So you don't have to think about like strategically how does this work? Like you just click play and watch the tactical video of Russell making it and then pause it, do it, press play, pause, and just copy me. Okay, I'm going to walk you through the process. There's no guesswork, there's no thinking, there's no messing things up. Just do it right here. You watch the videos and give you a tactics. And down here is going to show you what we talked about. It's going to give you a place where you can fill in your answers. Things you can brainstorm. Things you can think to. Examples, case studies. All the stuff you need to be successful. So again, every day I'm going live, giving you the strategy. And then as soon as the strategy is done, immediately afterwards, I'm going to give you the one pager. It's going to give you the tactics and your homework for today. I do not want you guys falling behind. So many times people come into my trainings, like, okay I'm gonna listen to all of the strategy first. And then I'm going to get started. If you do that, I promise you, you will fail. Arguably, some of the most successful people in our ClickFunnels community are Brandon and Kaitlin Poulin. Some of you guys know if you Google Lady Boss, you will find out more about them. And when they came into our world, they had been in a network marketing company. The company just gone under, they were broke. They were like, what are we going to do with our lives? And they went through our training. And it's crazy, I've watched them grow the business from where they were to now over millions of women, they've helped help them lose weight. And I said, what was the difference between you and like everybody else that I coach and I teach like, why did you guys have so much success and Brandon said something so interesting to me. He said, most people go through the course. They watch the entire course. They're like, okay. And they're getting ideas. They're brainstorming. Excuse me. They're doing the entire course. He says that, so they're always assuming that at the end they're going to start and then start doing the process. Because they, nobody does that. Because the deeper you get, the more overwhelmed, because there's more things and more things and more things. That if you haven't started earlier, you get in trouble. He said the thing that we did different than everyone else is we bought the same training everyone else bought, we click play. And then when you told me to do something, we paused it, and we went, and did the thing. He said, I don't care if it took a day, a week, a month, a year. We went and did the thing before he came back and push play on day number two. Okay, and that was the secret. Is if you guys want the same thing, I don't want you watching the live strategy sessions and say, okay I'm going to do tactics next week. No, this is something we're doing together. This is a workshop. This is a challenge. It's not something where you're just going to, like, I don't want to just talk about things that make you feel good. I want you to execute and get things done. And so again, you watch the live strategy here, immediately after, I'll give you the one-pager or you go watch the tactical video, go and do it. Go apply it and get it done, and then be ready for the next day. Every single day builds upon the last day. If you skip one of the days, the whole thing falls apart. Okay, so don't miss it. Watch the live training, jump on, watch the tactical, get the one-pager, and do the homework. Does that makes sense, everybody? Could you all commit to me you'll do that right now? Say, yes, Russell, I will do it. Okay, so going to happen now is down below here, they're going to drop a link to today's one-pager. Okay, you can see the link there. You can see it? Cool, so this is where you can download today's one-pager. You go right there, it's 5DayLeadChallenge.com/day1 When you go there, it's going to take you this page right here. And all you do is watch this video and it's going to walk you through everything you gotta do. And that's it. Again, today's homework assignment is super simple. It shouldn't take you more like 10 minutes max, probably less than that. It's going show you some case studies. It'll show you some examples. Show you how to get your one-pager account all set up so you can save all these one-pagers every single day. And that's about it for today. Okay, today's the easy day. Tomorrow, on the other hand, it's going to be a little more complicated. Tomorrow, we start having some fun. So again, this is the five day game plan again. Today was talking about unlimited leads. Help you see the vision. This is what we're creating. This is why we're creating. This is how all the pieces fit together. Tomorrow, 100% focus on the lead magnet. I'm going to walk you through the strategy. How do we figure out the right thing? That things going to be the sexiest, the most exciting, gets the most people when they're sitting at home scrolling through Instagram or Facebook to stop and think I need that thing. Click on the button, come over, and you can give you their email address. Now they're on your list, right? So that's going to create the lead magnets tomorrow. And again, this is not just a theoretical thing by the time tomorrow is done, if you follow the process, your lead magnet will be finished. Day number three, we're going to build a lead squeeze funnel. This weekend, I built out six funnels for you that are pre-done, that are amazing. I'm going to give you those six. I'm going to walk you through the exact process of how we take things, how we switch them out. And by the time it's done, you'll have a lead squeeze funnel that's working. That's ready. Day six, excuse me, day four. Day four, we're going to walk you through the six day follow up funnel. This is going to give you the six emails. We're going to give you software on that day. It's going to write emails for you. Excuse me, then day number five, Rachel Miller's coming and we're gonna help you guys launch the funnel. And that's where we're going this week. It's going to be so much fun. So that's kindof the game plan, you guys. And that's it for day number one here on the 5 Day Lead Challenge. See, wasn't that, that wasn't hard, right? Okay, you got a kind of overview of the strategy. You understand what's going. Now, all your job is do is go download the one-pager and go do the homework assignments. Very simple today. You should be done by the top of the hour. You guys can be completely done and then get prepared and ready because tomorrow is when all of the fun starts. And that's when we start building out your lead funnel. So again, you guys the link down below? 5DayLeadChallenge.com/day1. That's where you're going now. Open up a new browser window, wherever you are, go to that link. Save it, make sure you save that page because when you put your notes in there, it'll save the notes for you everything. Watch the tactical video, and that's kind of it, you guys. With that said, I appreciate you, guys. First off registering. 35,000 of you guys showed up to register for this, which is crazy. Frank here on stage was like, 7,000 or 8,000 people already on live, which is so cool. So thank you so much for spending time today. I'm excited to take you guys through this process over the next five days. Make sure you commit. Make sure you show up every single day. Make sure you do the work. If you do that, again, by the time this is done, you guys can have a machine that's generating leads for whatever business you are in. It works in every business, every industry. I promise you that. It will show you in even more detail tomorrow as I go through how to build your actual lead magnet out. It's going to be so much fun, you guys. And I appreciate you guys hanging out with me today. Thanks so much. If you have any questions or comments, put them in the comments down below. Either me or my team will try to get to them. And again, thanks, you guys. Appreciate you hanging out and we'll see you guys tomorrow. Same time, same place for day number two, your lead magnet. Thanks so much, guys. And we'll see you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Generating Unlimited Leads... - FDLC: Day 1 of 5 full 512 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is day 1 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to . Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. Welcome... This is day 1 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. If you want to watch the video of this episode or download the OnePager, go to 5dayleadchallenge.com. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I've got something I'm really excited for you guys over the next five episodes. Some of us know I did a live event a couple months back called the Five Day Lead Challenge where I went through the entire process like, how do you create a lead magnet that people will give you the email address for? After you have that lead magnet, how do you then create a lead funnel to be able to generate leads? Then from there, how do you write the emails? And from there, how do you drive traffic? And how do you do traffic for free if you don't want to pay for it? And it was one of my favorite things. In fact, I just went to the page right now and over 1,300 people have shared video number one. This is one that's... It's a hot topic. And I think it's something that's really, really powerful. And so I thought that it would be cool to pull this into the podcast. So that way you guys can start listening to concepts and these principles and hear them over and over again and get these things ingrained inside of your mind. Now, a couple things, number one, this is from a live event. So there'll be times when I'm waving and showing things on a whiteboard and stuff like that you're not able to see obviously on an audio podcast. But if you'd like to see any of this, it's all free at fivedayleadchallenge.com. You can go there and you can see the videos. Plus each day there's homework assignments. There's one pagers you can download and a whole bunch of other cool things. Like I said, if you want to get access to that and see the video versions or get the one pagers or whatever, all you got to do is go to fivedayleadchallenge.com, go opt in for free, and they give you access to all the homework, and the goodies, the bonuses, the prizes, and everything else. But right now I'm guessing you're probably seeing it home, or maybe you're working out, or you're driving. And so while you're doing that, I want to start getting these principles ingrained inside your mind. So with that said, I hope you guys enjoy day number one of the Five Day Lead Challenge. This is all about generating unlimited leads. What does that look like? What's the business model? How does it work? And hopefully, you guys will enjoy this. And on next week's episode, the next episode will go do deeper into actually creating your lead magnet. So enjoy day number one, Generating Unlimited Leads. Oh man, I'm so excited for this. I literally could not sleep last night. I was tossing and turning in my bed and so excited. We've been putting in so much effort behind the scenes for the 5 Day Lead Challenge. I just got a message literally, right as I was walking on stage that we passed 35,000 of you who registered for this challenge, which is crazy. It shows how excited you guys are about what we're talking about. How many guys by the way are excited about we're talking about today? If you are, let me know in the comments down below. I was looking at the comments before we got started and you guys are going crazy. So, I am so excited to be here with you guys today. And this is something you're gonna be doing over the next five days. As you know, this is the 5 Day Lead Challenge. I'm going to be going live every single day at the same time, same place and walk you through the step-by-step process to go start generating unlimited leads inside of your business, and it's going to be a lot of fun. Now, the way it's going to work, this is not going to be something that's going to be a full day thing. You're going to spend five or six hours every single day. This is something I'm gonna be going live every day at this time for probably anywhere from 30 to maybe 45 minutes max. Some days might be even shorter. Okay, my goal during that time is I'm going to be sitting here in front of the whiteboard. I want you guys to understand a strategy. Okay, so I'm going to map out, here's the strategy. Here's how you do it a very certain thing. Okay, and then as soon as it's done, I'm going to give you guys a special link. And that link's going to take you to the thing that we call a one-pager. And the one-pager's is going to give you a tactical video. Okay, so the first half is me showing you guys the strategy that I need you all to understand. Okay, and then I'm going to give you this one-pager and there's a video it's going to walk you through the tactics. The tactics is literally me sitting at my house doing the thing that I'm teaching you how to do. Because a lot of times I'll teach something and people are like, okay, I understand that conception and know how that works, but then they try to do it and I don't know what to do or how to do it. So you'll get a video immediately after this with today's tactics of me sitting in my house doing the assignment I did last night, I recorded it. And so you have a chance to watch that and then just follow along and copy what I do. Shouldn't take anywhere. Some assignments are short, they will take you probably 15 minutes. Tomorrow's going be a little bit longer. But hopefully my goal is about an hour to an hour and a half every single day. If you block that out every single day over the next five days, by the end of day five, you guys will have a machine that's created to help you generate leads. Okay, and it's going to be a lot of fun and I'm excited. So you guys, and I know you guys are excited. So, we have 35,000 of you who have registered for this. So if you're excited, let me know in the comments down below, because I love feeling the energy and I can see all your faces right now. It's just fun to see what we're doing. So that's kinda the game plan. Throughout this week, I've also got two guest speakers who are coming. I'll be teaching day one, day two, day three. And then day four, I'm going to be bringing one of my friends, Yara Golden's going to be coming up. And she's going to be talking about email copy. And after you're generating these leads, what do you actually say to them? Right, how does that work? And then day five on Friday, Rachel Miller is going to be coming. She's actually flying here to Boise to spend time with you guys to talk about how do you launch your lead funnel. How do you get leads coming in and how do you do it in a way with free traffic? Okay, because a lot of people, some guys who are here like, oh, this is awesome. I don't have money to invest right now. I don't have a budget. So we're going to show you how to launch this thing and start generating leads for free. That's going to be happening on Friday. So by the time this thing is done, all the pieces will be in place and leads will be coming in. And you'll have new leads coming into your business within five days from now. So that's my big promise to you. That's my goal. And so it's going to be a lot of fun. I only ask that you guys play full out, do the assignments, pay attention to the strategy, show up every single day for this strategy dump I'm going to be giving you guys. Show up, listen to it, understand it. When I give you the one-pager, go watch the tactical video, and then actually do the assignment. Okay, if you actually do it, you're gonna be successful at the end. The biggest problem I have with people who come to any of these programs or coaching or they buy a course or whatever is they listened to it like, oh, this is really good. They listen to it. They listen to it. And they never do anything. Okay, this is not one of those kind of courses. This is not something for you to listen to and feel good about. This is something I'm going to give you guys. Here's the strategy. Here's the tactics, go and do it. Come back tomorrow. We'll do the next step. I'm going to be piece by piece by piece until you've got the entire system. Everything you guys need to be successful. Does that sound fair? All right, so that is the game plan and I'm not going to lie, there's so many of you guys on, I just want to talk all day today. But I'm not going to do that. We're going to keep it short because I want to make sure you guys have a chance to get to work and do today's assignment and get ready and prepared for tomorrow. But you've got to commit to coming back every single day. Okay, this is five days. If you commit for five days, by the end of it, I promise you, guys, we can mold you, we can change you. And we can give you guys a result. That's going to change your business. And for a lot of you guys, it's actually gonna change your life as well. Okay, but you've got to commit. So how many guys right now can make a commitment that you're gonna commit to show up every single day. Number one, okay, raise your hand and say, I commit, Russell! I'm going show up every single day and watch the strategy training. Okay, that's the first commitment. The second commitment is, as soon as the training's over, I'm going to go through the tactical. I'm going to implement the thing you actually told me to do. Okay, and you're going to do it with belief that it's actually going to work. One of the biggest things that is going to impede some of your success, is some of you guys are skeptics, right? How many of you guys have ever considered yourself, oh I'm always skeptical? I'm always making sure that everything's going to be perfect. I guarantee you that a lot of guys are skeptical. In fact, most people I know who are skeptical, never have success. The people who have success, are people who get a coach and then they believe in that coach, and they do what the coach says. Okay, being coachable is one of the most powerful tools that you're going to have in your arsenal to be successful. So if you're typically someone who's very skeptical in life, oh I'm always skeptical about things, I want to encourage you to take your skepticism for five days and just put it on the side and say, look for five days, I'm just going to trust Russell 100%. I'm gonna assume that he's knows what he's doing. I'm going to assume he's been doing this for a long time. This isn't the first rodeo. I'm assuming he's got my best interests at heart because I'm not paying anything for this, right? The 5 Day Lead Challenge is completely free. My job is for the next five days is completely to over-deliver it and to blow your minds. And so if you will just be, take your skepticism and put them on side and just do the process. Just do your best. Just try it out. I promise you by the time, day five is done, you'll believe because it'll work for you. Okay, and that's kind of my game plan. Again, my goal in this entire process is not to waste any of your time. I know all of our time is precious. And so that's why these are going to be short sessions. We're going to give you what you need and then get to work and give you guys a result before it's over. Does that sound good? Okay, so I want to kind of, today's kind of an overarching strategy. I want you to understand where we're going. I want you to understand here's the broad picture of what we're trying to accomplish. And after you have the broad picture, then day two, day three, day four, day five is going to be, okay here's step one, step two, step three, step four. And everything we got to do to execute. So that's my game plan. So to begin with, I'm going to cover some fundamental things. Some of you guys may have heard some of these concepts before, some of you may not have. But this is the key thing you have to understand if you're going to be successful in this 5 Day Lead Challenge. But honestly, to be successful in business as a whole. When I first got started in this business, one of my very first mentors said this to me. And I, my guess is some of you have probably heard this before, but he said is this. He said, Russell, you have to understand that in business, the money is in the list. How many of you guys have heard that before? This is not a new concept. But for me, it was like, when I heard that, I was like, what does that mean? What does it mean, the money's in the list? Like, I don't understand that. I'm in business, I sell products. I sell services, right? They said, no, you don't understand like, the list, like the customers, the people that you have, this is your real business. The fact that I was able to send out a couple emails, we got 35,000 people to register for this live event. You guys are my list. I send emails to my list and you showed up to this event where I have a chance to teach you and to train you, right. The money's in the list, like that's the asset that's the most powerful. So, one of my first mentors told me that and I was like, okay, that's kind of cool, but I don't know what that means. Like, what is the list, right? And the list is just a bunch of leads. One lead is a person. 10 is a bunch of leads. A hundred or a thousand. That's a list of people. Okay, and so the list is the key. So in the Lead Challenge, it goes, you've generated a whole bunch of leads to the point where you've actually built up a list. Now, to kind of preface this before we get too deep in anything, I want you to understand the value of a list. Okay, what is the list actually worth? Okay, so when I got started, one of my first mentors, he told me is he said, Russell, you have to understand basic marketing math. And so this was what he said. He said, as you start your business, he's like, the numbers will change. This is not an income claim. This is just kind of the numbers a lot of people see inside of the industry. It says that you should be able to average $1 per name per month, that's on your email list. Okay, and so they told me that and I was like, well, how does that work? And I didn't understand at first. And I'm sure some of you guys won't understand like, well, how does an email equal a dollar per month? Okay, and don't worry, I'll walk you through that and you'll kind of see that, but that's what they told me. So they said, okay. So that means, they said, well, that means if you have a thousand people on your list, you should be able to make a thousand dollars a month. Right, and if you had 10,000 people on the list, you should make about $10,000 a month. If you have a 100,000 people on list, $100,000 a month and so on. And so I remember hearing that and I was like, oh my gosh, this is amazing. Now, I was in college at the time. I remember looking at these numbers. I was like, okay, well my goal, I remember my goal at the time was if I can make six figures a year, that'd be like what my parents make. That'd be insane. So I said, okay, this is my goal. If I can get 10,000 people on a list at $10,000 a month, $10,000 a month, times, 12 months, that's $120,000. That's six figures in a year. And that was my goal. And so I was like, I gotta figure this out. I didn't know how to get a list. Nobody told me, I just knew that I needed to list. Right, that was like, okay, I need leads, I need a list. And so some of you guys may have heard this story but after I heard that, I was like, okay, like at all costs, I need 10,000 people or 100,000. I need to get these people on my list so I can make money. And I didn't know how to do that. So I remember, and this is actually a picture. This is my very first house. My wife and I lived in after we got married. A year after we got married, we bought this duplex. And I remember I was actually right here, these windows one of the bedrooms and in those bedrooms was my was my little computer desk. I was trying to learn how to start my business. And I remember I was sitting there and I said, okay, I need to figure out how to get a list. Right, it was in this house that I got this principle from somebody. And so, I remember going and and searching online, how to build an email list. How do you buy a list? I remember eventually I found this website. I think it was like, it was called like SpamForEmailAddresses.com or dot net or dot something. And it was like, we'll sell you a DVD with I think a million people's names on it for like $60. And I was like, wait a minute 6 million people's names and email addresses. And I'm doing the math, I'm like, okay, well, my friend said $1 per month per name on an email list. If I buy this list for $60, that's a $1,000,000 a month I can make. I'm doing the math in my head. I'm freaking out. I'm like, this is, I figured it out. Like, this is like, I know how to how to build a business now, right? So I remember, I bought the DVD. They sent it to me, I ended up getting in the mail. It had a million people's email lists on it. I took it off. I downloaded the Excel sheet and I was so excited. It took me a couple of days to figure out how do you load it on a computer? How do you send these emails out? And I had to figure this whole thing out. And I remember the night that I queued up the emails, the software my computer had a million people's emails in this thing. And I told my wife. At the time my wife was supporting me. Okay, that was my story. I was wrestling at Boise State University. So, I was a college kid with $0. My wife was supporting us. And I remember, I told her that and I was like, Hey, this is the deal. I'm going to send an email, send out this email list. It's going to go out to a million people and money's gonna come flooding in. And I'm like, you can literally quit your job tomorrow if you want to. And she was like, oh, okay. Like, like good luck, Russell. You know, like super supportive. I didn't know what was gonna happen. And she was like, okay, I don't think we're going to make what you're thinking but you know, good luck, have some fun with it. And so I queued up the emails. I remember, still writing an email, clicking send and then watching the first email. Like one send, two, three, four, five, six and I was like, this is it. Like, I figured it out. Right, I beat the internet. And I remember going to bed that night like just laying in bed all excited, like dreaming. It was like a kid going to bed on Christmas morning. What's going to happen? Being so excited, like in the morning. What if, what if 1% of people buy something? What if only half of 1% buy? And I started doing all the math in my head and just dreaming about what was possible. I remember the next morning I woke up, and I, firstly, I ran out of my bed, and walk to the computer, I look at the computer. And overnight, I think like 6,500 emails had been sent. And at first I was frustrated. I'm like, oh, why is this taking so long? Like, I want all these million emails to be out because that means I'm going to be rich when it's all said and done. And about the time my wife came in and she was like, Russell, I need to use the phone. I was like, why? She's like, I need to call the office, where she worked at like, no, like you can't like, we're making money here! You should just quit. Just don't show up. It's going to be awesome. She's like, I need to call someone. So, this is back in the days before internet before we all had internet access. If you remember this, so those of you who are old school like me, we had a modem and it was plugged in. So I had to like, climb under the desk, go unplug the modem, plug her phone back in. And as I was underneath, I plugged the phone back, all of a sudden, like the phone starts ringing while I'm still under the desk. I was like, that's weird. So I crawl out from the desk. I come and answer the phone. And on the other end, there's this person screaming at me and yelling. And I'm just like kind of confused. And eventually I realized it's my internet service provider. Okay, the person who pipes the internet into my house that I was sending out emails through. And they're yelling like, in the last like four hours, there was like 65 spam complaints from you, blah, blah, blah, blah. What's happening? Like, freaking out. And I don't know, I mean, no, no, sir. You don't understand. No, sir. You don't understand. Like, I bought the email addresses. from SpamFreeEmailAddresses.com. These people want to get spam. And the person yells at me and remember the last thing they said before they threatened lawsuits and stuff said, son, that's the definition of spam. I was like, what? But they said, you just need an email list. I was so confused. So, eventually after they yelled at me for a long time and threatened lawsuits, they went and actually shut my internet access off. And I lost my internet account. And I remember I held it, like hanging the phone up and my wife, my beautiful wife, Collette she's like, so who was that on the phone? I'm like, oh no one, please don't quit your job today. Like, let's roll it a couple more days. And so anyway, that day I remember like being so frustrated. And I remember I couldn't check my email because I lost the internet access. And I was still a student at Boise State University at the time, so I put my backpack on. I started walking to school, all depressed and sad. I got to the computer lab at the school and opened my email. And then the craziest thing happened. I opened my email. And you know, I always see emails from people trying to sell me stuff. And it was the first time I ever opened my email and they're like five or six orders that had come in over the night. And I was like, wait, what? I started looking at sure enough, five or six people had bought the thing that I had sold through the email. I remember just being like, oh my gosh, this worked. I did it the legal way. But like, it worked. Like, okay, I gotta figure this out. Like, how do I, like, how do I do a list that's not illegal? Right, I don't want to go buy leads. That's not how you do it. Like, how do you generate a list of people who actually want to hear from you? And I started freaking out, I got excited. And that became the question. Okay, the question was, how do I generate leads and how do I build my own list? Okay, that was the question that started running through my head. How many of you guys have that question in the past? Or you have right now, like, okay, I want leads too. If we can make a dollar per month per lead, like I want a bunch of leads in my business as well. Right, how many of you guys are thinking about that? That was my question. That became my quest. Like, okay, how do I generate leads? How do I build a list? I got to figure this out. I was working, trying to figure it out. I was looking bunch of stuff. And eventually I heard rumors about this guy. His pen name was David DeAngelo. I've met him since then. I've become friends with him, his name's Eben Pagan. And at the time, he had a business called Double Your Dating. And I heard rumors. I don't know what the numbers were. People like to say. Yeah, he's making tens of millions of dollars a year and all this kind of stuff. And, so I was trying to research everybody. I remember going to his website and I went to his website. What I saw was something I'd never seen before. Okay, this is what the website actually looked like. It was this little page right here. Okay, and I remember reading said, you're about to learn the secrets that most men will never know about women. And I was like, okay. And it said, inside, you're going to learn the Kiss Test, how to tell if she's ready to be kissed. I remember reading that. I was like, whoa, what is the Kiss Test? I want to know what that is. Okay, now putting this in context of my own personal timeline. About the time I'm reading this, I had just gotten married to my beautiful wife. We'd married about a year. I just got our internet access shut down, all of these things. And I'm looking at this page, I'm like, this is amazing. And I was like, I want to put my email address in there to see what in the world, the Kiss Test is. But I'm like, wait, if I put my email address in on this dating website, teaching men how to get women, what's my wife gonna think? I remember being like, torn. Like I want to funnel hack this person. I want to go and see what's happening behind the scenes. But if I do that, it's going to be weird for my wife. So I remember that night, like waiting for her to come home from work, she was supporting me. And she came home and I was like, Collette, I need to ask you a favor. I think she was kind of nervous. I'm like, there's this website that is doing something cool. This guy has got this huge email list. I don't know. I don't understand what he's doing or how he's doing it. But I want to like put my email address in to understand what he's doing. Can I do that? And she's like, yeah. Why would you care? I'm like, because it's a site teaching people how to pick up girls. And she's like, what am I? I know, I don't even know. I suppose to see what he's doing. I need to understand the process. And so we kind of laughed about it. And so she came with me and I came to this page and I, together, we opted in. So I put in my first name, my email address, and I clicked submit to get instant access to find out what the Kiss Test was. So I did that and I'm waiting on the next page to be blown away by like some video or some training course or something. But on the next page, all it was, this little page looked like. It was like an article, maybe a page and a half, two page article. And at the very top, it said, this is the Kiss Test. Let me teach you how it works. Okay, now again, I was married at the time. So I didn't, I hadn't been on a date outside of my wife for a long time. So I didn't try to put myself in the context. If I was a single guy who was struggling to get girls, like how valuable would this information be to me? And so this is where the Kiss Test was. David DeAngelo said, what do you do, at the end of the date, you walk a girl up to the door. Okay, and as you're sitting there, this is the awkward spot. Right, do I kiss her? Or no, one of us freaks out and they want to run away. He said, this is the secret. He said, all you need to do is go up there and you put your hand behind her hair. Like, you're gonna put your hair behind her ear. Okay, and if she pulls back, that means don't kiss her, run as fast as you can. Okay, but as she turns her head into your hand, that's the key that she's ready to be kissed. And then boom, you go for the move. And that's the Kiss Test. I remember reading that as like, oh my gosh, like that it wasn't this huge long report or PDF. It was like a paragraph. It was this little paragraph right here saying, this is the Kiss Test and I remember reading that I was like, if I was a single guy right now, I just received value. I was like, oh my gosh. That was really, really cool. What else does this guy have? And if he kept reading the page at the bottom he's like, Hey, if you want another tip like this, go buy my ebook called Double Your Dating, click there. And it took you to go buy his ebook, which had a whole bunch of different tips and secrets like that. And I remember looking at and I studied this over for like weeks. I'm like, this is how this guy's building this huge list. He's got this weird website that the only thing you can do is put your email address in and next page, he gives you this really cool thing that dudes really, really want. And like, this is how he's built this huge email list of hundreds, of thousands of people. And makes millions of dollars a year. And so the more I looked at it, the more I was trying to figure out how does this work? I need to put these pieces together. And what I realized and what I kind of find out as I started learning more about this is that this Kiss Test, right? This thing right here, that he had created. This is what we call a lead magnet. Lead magnet is something that's going to draw. It's going to attract your dream customers to you. Okay, and a lot of you guys have heard of a lead magnet before, but this is one of the keys to building your own list is the lead magnet. Something that people want. Okay, so for him, he's in the market of like, I need to figure out how to pick up girls. Okay, the lead magnet was the Kiss Test. I'll teach you the Kiss Test if you give me your email address, okay. I'm going to exchange this thing for you. Okay, and that was the lead magnet. Okay, so I started thinking for my business, who are my dream customers? What do they look like? Like, what are those people like that I wanted to bring into my world? Who is my dream customer? I start thinking, what is the lead magnet I could create that would get those people attracted to me? Where they're on the internet surfing on their phones, swiping through, all of a sudden they saw something like, whoa, I want that thing. I want to learn the Kiss Test. I want to learn the, whatever the thing is. And that lead magnet thing gets them to stop scrolling, click on a button, come over to you, give you their email address, and now they become a lead. Okay, and the more leads you get, you started building this list. Okay, and the value in your business is your list. That is the key. Okay, so after seeing this, I was like, okay, this is the game. I know how to play now. Now that I knew the rules, I knew how to play so I'm not spamming who people don't want to hear from me but I'm getting people who are interested, who come to me because I have value. Okay, this is how we build the list of people who actually want to hear from me. Okay, so I did what hopefully you guys are going to be doing this week, as well. I said, okay, I'm going to go and create my first lead magnet. I'm gonna set up a lead squeeze funnel. I'm going to do exactly what he's doing. Okay, so I did that. Okay, I modeled it as close as I could. I build up my very first lead squeeze funnel. I put it out there and I launched it. And I want to come back to these numbers 'cause these numbers were actually interesting. Initially for me, my numbers almost synced to what I was told earlier from one of my friends. Okay, I still remember the very first month that I started, that I had my first lead magnet. I was driving traffic. The very first month, I got 217 people who opted in. I don't know why I remember that number. I think it's 'cause it was like, I was freaking out like 217 people. Like, that's a lot of people who have given me their email address. Now they're on an email list. I can send emails to talking about the products and the services I want to sell. And that first month, I said 217 people joined my list, and I made about $300 that month. Okay, now for me, as a college kid, $300 a month. $300 my very first month was insane. Like that was just like, I couldn't even, I couldn't even fathom. Like I feel like I was the richest kid in the world. Now, to put this in perspective. At that time, my wife and that blue house we were living in, that I showed you earlier. That was a duplex. I bought that duplex because I wanted to make cashflow. So I spent, I don't know $150,000 on this duplex. We lived in half. We had a renter in the other half and the renters paid us. And my cashflow on that rental was like $150, $200 a month. Right, and I remember thinking I made for my 217 person email list. I made almost double what I did it my real estate. On my real estate, I spent $150,000 to buy this thing to cashflow like $150, $200 bucks a month. Whereas here, I'd built a list of 217 people. And I cash flowed double that. And for me at that point, I was like, I am all in. I'm going to put all my eggs in this basket of I got to figure out how to grow lists. How do I do it? And so I started driving more and more traffic. And by month number two, excuse me, month number two, I'd built an email list. My list had gone from 217 people to about 5,000 people. Okay, and sure enough, that month I made about $5,000 in my business. Okay, and I was like, how do I grow this bigger? Right, reinvest that money into generate more leads and more leads. And eventually my list went from 5,000 to 10,000 to a 100,000 to now we have lists of multiple millions of people. Which is why you can send an email and get 35,000 people to come and register. Our list has grown so big. Okay, now a couple of interesting things. My friend told me this, like, if you average $1 per name per month, that that is definitely like a good standard but it's honestly, it's very, very low. Okay, and what I learned over the last almost two decades of doing this now is that there is a direct correlation between how much money you make and the relationship you build with that list. Okay, you don't have to have a list of a million people to make millions of dollars. In fact, a lot of times, if you've got a local business, like some of you guys here that are registered run restaurants. You've got local businesses. Like there's not a million people in your city, right. If you're Boise, Idaho, and you're a chiropractor or dentist or a masseuse or something here, you're not going to get a million people on your list. That's okay. But if you get a thousand people on your list, man, you're going to average a lot more because you can build a better relationship with somebody locally than you can virtually. In fact, I've seen dentists and chiropractors who average hundreds of dollars per name per month on their list as well. But the key still is getting leads. The more leads you get and the bigger that list grows. Now I want you understand this is true for every business. One of the big questions I got a lot from people as we were launching this and putting on this lead challenge was, well, Russell, again, I'm a network marketer. Like I don't sell my own product. Like, will this work for me? Or Russell, I am a chiropractor. How would this work for me? Or I'm a dentist. Or in fact, my brother who hopefully is watching this right now. My brother runs a band. He's got a label. And he told me, I was like, you should come be part of the 5 Day Challenge. He's like, it doesn't make sense for me. My business is different. I'm like, does your business need leads? Every business needs leads. I don't care what business you're in, it's not different. This process works for every single business. Right now, on Click Funnels, as of today, we have over 120,000 active members. Every business, every industry you can dream of. Okay, every one of those businesses needs two things. They need leads and need to sell stuff. Okay, so if you need leads, this is the process. I don't care if you are starting a new business, if you've got a huge business that needs tens of thousands of leads a day. Or if you're a business you need 20 leads. This process will work for you. It does not matter. It works in every business. I promise you, we've done this over and over and over and over again. This is not my first rodeo. Okay, and so I want you guys to understand that like no matter what kind of business you're in, you're going to need leads. And so, anyway, I'll kind of start there and I won't go too much on my rant. I want you guys to understand that. Okay, so I'm gonna walk you guys through the system. The system we're gonna be talking about over the next couple of days. So, the first part in this process that we're going to be going through, this is going to be what we're going to be spending all the time on tomorrow. The first step here is, we're all going to create your very own lead magnet. Okay, and we're spending a lot of time tomorrow going into that. So, I'm not going to go too deep right now. But that's the first step, is creating a lead magnet. I don't care what business you're in. You need to have a lead magnet. A lead magnet is a thing that gets people to raise their hand to come to you. It's the Kiss Test. It's this challenge is a lead magnet for me. All these things, you're creating a lead magnet to get somebody in. And again, I'm gonna spend a lot of time tomorrow going deep into this, but I want you understand, I don't care what business you're in. You always can create lead magnets. This is how a lead magnet works. Okay, if you think about your business right now, this is your dream customer. This is the person that you want to attract. If you think about this, typically when you're trying to attract somebody into your business, you're trying to get somebody where you know something they don't know right now. And so, I always look back and say, okay, in every business, every business has some result that they promise a client, right? So up here, this is a mountain. Let's say this is a big result you offer somebody. So this is the result. And so what you're doing is, you're trying to get these people right here to come to get this result. So, let me do this for a couple of different businesses, right? So let's just say you are a dentist. What is the big result you promising somebody? If you're a dentist, you probably say, my result. I'm gonna promise you. I'm going to help you get clean teeth that are white, that are straight, that are amazing. If you're a chiropractor, we're gonna teach you guys. The result you're promising people is to get out of pain and get an aligned spine. If you're in the dating market, your result is to get a date for your client. There's there's all these things, right? Every single business there's a result. Okay, if I don't care what it is, if you're, yeah. I'm not gonna go too deep in this. I want you guys think about it for your own business. But every business there's results. What's the result that you're promising your client. Okay, think about that. Like what's the result you're promising your dream client when they come into your world? Now the cool thing about this is my guess is this was you at one time, and then you went and you actually achieved this result. You got this result. You finished it. And as you did that result, there was a process you went through. There were steps. Step one, step two, step three, step four. There was these steps you took to get the result. There's the step-by-step process. That helps them get this result. And now that you know that process, what we do is we say, okay, here's the process to get this certain result. Okay, you come back here. So, okay, I'm going to create this thing. This is my lead magnet. Lead magnet. It's going to walk you through the process to get the result. Here's the first step. Here's the second step. Here's the third step. Here's the four step. So again, in the example from Double Your Dating, the lead magnet was, I'm going to show you guys the Kiss Test. How to kiss a girl. Know if you're gonna kiss a girl. That's the result that he was promising here inside of his lead magnet. And all lead magnet was like, okay, now let me walk you through the steps. Step number one, you walk her to the doorstep. Number two, you go like this. Step number three. And so you walk them through the process to get the result you're promising them. So every lead magnet is tied to some result. Here's the result you're going to get if you give me your email address. And so we're gonna spend a lot of time tomorrow going into this and I'm going to walk you guys through the process of how we figure out what is the right result. What's the one that's gonna be most powerful lead magnet that will draw this person towards you. So I said that's going to be the game plan we're going to go deep on tomorrow. I'm so excited for that session. And then after we figured out how to create this. how to create this actual lead magnet, I'm going to show you is how to take this concept, this framework that you're creating, and how do we put it into something that's tangible. Okay, and tomorrow we'll be giving you guys a software tool that'll be really cool. I promise you guys, there's gonna be two software tools you guys get for free while you hang out during the live events. The first one, I'm going to give you guys tomorrow. And it's going to take this abstract framework abstract idea that you have and turn it into a physical thing. A physical lead magnet that people will give you their email address for. It's gonna be fun. Okay, so that's the first step here. Oops, the first step here's this process is creating the lead magnet. Okay, and so I've got a couple examples here on my slides. So this is an example. This one is super simple. This is Brendon Burchard. A lot of you guys know Brendon. This is one of his lead magnets. It's called the one-page productivity planner, used by CEOs and achievers worldwide. Okay, again, like the Kiss Test, Kiss Test is a paragraph. This is a one-page productivity planner. Your lead magnet does not need to be this huge extravagant crazy hard thing. It can be like, here's the five steps to get a whiter smile, get your teeth cleaned by, in a weekend, right? Or make your smile whiter in a weekend. It could be the five steps to be more productive as an event planner. It could be like, figure, like, what is your business, right? You think about who is your dream customer? What's the thing that you could create for them that is going to get them to want to give you their email address. Tomorrow, I'm going to brainstorm a whole bunch of ideas. So, you don't have to you won't have to stress about what that thing is. Okay, because tomorrow I'm gonna give you guys a framework. We'll take you through to figure out exactly what that lead magnet needs to be. That's gonna be the most impactful and the most powerful, okay? But this is example is very, very simple. Lead magnet like that. This is a lead magnet. A lot of you guys have seen this. This is my Marketing Secrets Blackbook. This is a bunch of, it's a little black book with a bunch of different marketing secrets in it. And it's this lead magnet we created and we give it away for free to get people's email addresses. Okay, so that's the first step right there. The very first step is creating a lead magnet. And that's what we're doing tomorrow. Okay, all right. That's step one. Step number two. After you create the lead magnet, then we need to create the process. The funnel is actually going to turn this and it's going to get somebody to give me their email address. So this is called the lead funnel. And based on this criteria, they put in their email address. Click submit And this person now becomes a lead. Okay, so step number two, after we create the lead magnet, this is going to be tomorrow. This is day two. Then day three, we're going to build out the lead funnel. And I actually literally myself, pre-built out six of these funnels for you guys that I'm going to show you guys, that I'm going to give you guys on Wednesday. Okay, and so this is how it works. This is Brendon's again, the lead funnel is the most simple funnel of all the funnels, which is really exciting. Step number one, it's like, Hey, I'm going to give you this free thing. If you give me your email address. They then give you the email address and the next page you give it to them. Very simple, very easy. It's not difficult at all. And so we're going to show you is that. This is again, my Marketing Secrets Blackbook one. This one of the most simple lead funnels we've ever created. If you look at this, actually this pitch was probably six months ago, but in the first year this was live, it generated 272,000 leads. It took me less than five minutes to put together this landing page. 272,000 leads. You guys see the number right there. Think about it from the math I told you guys about earlier. By creating this two-page photo, I gave yourself a $272,000 a month raise, right? If I was following the stats and numbers I'd showed you guys earlier. Can we understand like this is the power. You create something like this, and it can generate leads on. You can generate leads where you consistently day in and day out, over and over and over again. And so this is a very simple, it's a two-step funnel. In fact, this funnel right here, I'm going to give you guys this exact funnel so you can just copy. Take your lead magnet, take mine out, plug yours in, and you can be off to the races very, very quickly. So again, day two, tomorrow we build the lead magnet. By the time tomorrow is done, it's not going to be, okay, I got to build my lead. By the time tomorrow's done, your lead magnet will be finished. It'll be complete. It'll be cool. It'll be creating a really cool tool that'll make it very powerful people. Okay, day three, we'll build out your lead funnel. It'll be finished. And then you can plug in your lead magnet. These two pieces will be done by Wednesday. Okay, and then Thursday comes in, the question is like, okay, Russell, you said that when traffic comes in here, we're start making money off the leads. How do you make money off of leads? Well, the way you make money off of leads is they give you the email address, they come down here and then guess what? These people 'cause everyone would give us an email address is a person, these are all human beings, right? They put the email address in and now you have an email sequence you start sending out. So, you send an email right here. And the next day, you send another email, right? You send out these different emails to build a relationship with them. Okay, and if you do the emails the wrong way, what'll happen is you'll send two emails and people never open your emails again. If you do it the right way, people will look forward to emails. They'll whitelist you to make sure that your emails show up, right? So there's a right way and a wrong way. So on Thursday, Yara is gonna be coming to teach you guys her six email sequence. What are the most powerful six emails you can send out somebody as soon as they give you the email address. These are the emails that have been tested. They've been proven. If you structure them the right way, it'll build the relationship with your audience. They'll be more likely to open emails in the future. And they're going to buy the products and services you sell. Okay, and the cool thing is we actually built software for this as well. So on that day, for those who show up live here, you're going to get the software, we're basically fill in blanks. You click a button. It'll pre-write these six emails with your stories weaved into them, and then you just copy and paste them. Now you've got those in as well. So that's what's going to be happening on day number four. Let's see, I'll put it here on blue. It's day four, we're working on the email sequences. All right. And the day number five. Let me show you this real quick. So, here we go. So this is what it looks like from a standpoint over here. Leads come in, they put an email address in there, and you start sending emails. So here's how you write the emails right here. So this is the first email that goes out and the second. And as they go through, day one they get this email. Day two, they get this email. Day three, day four, day five, day six. What walks them through this process of getting these emails. Each email takes them and builds that relationship. So then we're more likely to buy from me in the future. Remember, when I told you guys before on average, you should average $1 per month, $1 per name per month on your list. Okay, if you do this the right way, this is how you build the relationship with how much you make per person will dramatically go up based on the relationship you have with them. It's these first six emails are critical. They're the key, we're going to literally teach you them, give you the software to write them, and you'll have them done. That will be done on Thursday, which is pretty exciting. Okay, so that's happening there. And then the last step now is okay, I've got the machine, everything's built. I've got my lead magnet. It's amazing, I got my landing page here. I've got the emails going out. Now, the last step is how do we get traffic to start coming to me? So, we start getting traffic. How do we get traffic from here and from here? And there's a million different ways to get traffic, right? In fact, a lot of you guys know, my third book is called Traffic Secrets and there's a million ways to get traffic that I talk about in there. But I wanted to start with something that's simple. Okay, a lot of you guys are coming to this. You don't have a huge budget, right? You're not sure how to generate leads. And so Rachel Miller's coming on Friday and she's going to show you guys ways to generate leads that don't cost any money. How do you generate traffic is not going to cost you a ton of money to get people coming in here, putting the email address in, to get your lead magnet, following up with them. And so the whole process will start working for you. And so Friday, we're gonna focus on launching your funnel. And that's the last step here in the 5 Day is on Friday, we're launch your funnel and get this whole thing working for you. So this is where we're going this week. This is the process you guys, okay. Again, we're going to build out your lead magnet, get your lead squeeze funnel figured out, write out your five day email, excuse me, your six day email sequence. We're going to launch to get traffic in. And if we can accomplish this by the end of this week, that's the goal. That's my game plan. And each of you guys will have a process. You'll have a system in place to continually generate leads inside your business. I have so many friends who, at one point in their business, they had to generate leads, right? A lot of you guys when you first start your business, you get to college and go, Hey, I'm gonna start my store or my business or whatever. You create it. And you launch it and you do all the advertising, all the efforts and stuff and leads start coming in and guess what happens? You start getting busy. Now, I got a service all these clients. I got to service things and you stop focusing on generating more leads. And what happens eventually? Eventually your business dries up Leads, customers, traffic coming into your business. This is the lifeblood of your business. If your business is struggling, especially during these crazy times are now, my guess is because you don't have any life. You have any blood coming into your business. You don't have new leads coming in consistently. This is the key, is the new leads coming in consistently. So my job, my goal with you guys is to create this process, get it set up. And now leads will continually be coming in. And I don't care in the backside of here. I don't care what it is you're selling. If you're selling, if you're in network marketing, this process will work for you. And at the end of this, you will get people to sign up for, to be a distributor underneath you. If you're selling physical products, I don't care. Follow this process. By the time it's done, people will buying more of your physical products. Okay, if you're a coach and author, speaker, like whatever it is, I don't care what business you're in. If you're a masseuse, if you're running a band, if you're doing like whatever. It does not matter what kind of business you're in. Every business needs leads. This is the way you get leads. And it works consistently in every business, every industry we've tried. And so I want you guys to take that out your, of like, oh, that sounds good, Russell. I've heard this before. This is more for my type of business, whatever. Take the skepticism. Take it, put it on the shelf, and just trust me. Tomorrow, we're going to go deep into building your lead magnet. If any of you guys are like, this won't work for me because my business is different. I'm going to show you guys how to break down what you do into the right kind of lead magnet that will attract anybody. It'll attract your dream customers to you. And so that's kind of the goal and game plan. So I'm excited. This is the game process what we're going to doing this week. Does that sound good? You guys all on board for that? Okay, so let me walk you guys through what to expect for the rest of the week. So again, what's going to be happening is every single day at the same time, I'm going to be going live from the stage, talking to you guys. So there it is, that's going to be happening every single day. And again, all the things, we're about 40 minutes right now. It's going to probably, probably 30 minutes mostly. It's going to be a 30 minutes session. I'm going to give you a strategy. Here's the strategy you got to understand. And then after that, I'm going to give you a thing called a one-pager. This is what the one-pager looks like. And about a minute from now, I'm going to give you guys the one pager for day number one. Your job with these one-pagers is not to sit around and like do nothing with it. It is to come here immediately and first off, watch the video at the top. The video here at the top, this is me at my house doing your assignment each day. Today's assignment's very simple as you will see. Tomorrow's assignment, I'm going to literally build out an entire lead magnet with you. So you don't have to think about like strategically how does this work? Like you just click play and watch the tactical video of Russell making it and then pause it, do it, press play, pause, and just copy me. Okay, I'm going to walk you through the process. There's no guesswork, there's no thinking, there's no messing things up. Just do it right here. You watch the videos and give you a tactics. And down here is going to show you what we talked about. It's going to give you a place where you can fill in your answers. Things you can brainstorm. Things you can think to. Examples, case studies. All the stuff you need to be successful. So again, every day I'm going live, giving you the strategy. And then as soon as the strategy is done, immediately afterwards, I'm going to give you the one pager. It's going to give you the tactics and your homework for today. I do not want you guys falling behind. So many times people come into my trainings, like, okay I'm gonna listen to all of the strategy first. And then I'm going to get started. If you do that, I promise you, you will fail. Arguably, some of the most successful people in our ClickFunnels community are Brandon and Kaitlin Poulin. Some of you guys know if you Google Lady Boss, you will find out more about them. And when they came into our world, they had been in a network marketing company. The company just gone under, they were broke. They were like, what are we going to do with our lives? And they went through our training. And it's crazy, I've watched them grow the business from where they were to now over millions of women, they've helped help them lose weight. And I said, what was the difference between you and like everybody else that I coach and I teach like, why did you guys have so much success and Brandon said something so interesting to me. He said, most people go through the course. They watch the entire course. They're like, okay. And they're getting ideas. They're brainstorming. Excuse me. They're doing the entire course. He says that, so they're always assuming that at the end they're going to start and then start doing the process. Because they, nobody does that. Because the deeper you get, the more overwhelmed, because there's more things and more things and more things. That if you haven't started earlier, you get in trouble. He said the thing that we did different than everyone else is we bought the same training everyone else bought, we click play. And then when you told me to do something, we paused it, and we went, and did the thing. He said, I don't care if it took a day, a week, a month, a year. We went and did the thing before he came back and push play on day number two. Okay, and that was the secret. Is if you guys want the same thing, I don't want you watching the live strategy sessions and say, okay I'm going to do tactics next week. No, this is something we're doing together. This is a workshop. This is a challenge. It's not something where you're just going to, like, I don't want to just talk about things that make you feel good. I want you to execute and get things done. And so again, you watch the live strategy here, immediately after, I'll give you the one-pager or you go watch the tactical video, go and do it. Go apply it and get it done, and then be ready for the next day. Every single day builds upon the last day. If you skip one of the days, the whole thing falls apart. Okay, so don't miss it. Watch the live training, jump on, watch the tactical, get the one-pager, and do the homework. Does that makes sense, everybody? Could you all commit to me you'll do that right now? Say, yes, Russell, I will do it. Okay, so going to happen now is down below here, they're going to drop a link to today's one-pager. Okay, you can see the link there. You can see it? Cool, so this is where you can download today's one-pager. You go right there, it's 5DayLeadChallenge.com/day1 When you go there, it's going to take you this page right here. And all you do is watch this video and it's going to walk you through everything you gotta do. And that's it. Again, today's homework assignment is super simple. It shouldn't take you more like 10 minutes max, probably less than that. It's going show you some case studies. It'll show you some examples. Show you how to get your one-pager account all set up so you can save all these one-pagers every single day. And that's about it for today. Okay, today's the easy day. Tomorrow, on the other hand, it's going to be a little more complicated. Tomorrow, we start having some fun. So again, this is the five day game plan again. Today was talking about unlimited leads. Help you see the vision. This is what we're creating. This is why we're creating. This is how all the pieces fit together. Tomorrow, 100% focus on the lead magnet. I'm going to walk you through the strategy. How do we figure out the right thing? That things going to be the sexiest, the most exciting, gets the most people when they're sitting at home scrolling through Instagram or Facebook to stop and think I need that thing. Click on the button, come over, and you can give you their email address. Now they're on your list, right? So that's going to create the lead magnets tomorrow. And again, this is not just a theoretical thing by the time tomorrow is done, if you follow the process, your lead magnet will be finished. Day number three, we're going to build a lead squeeze funnel. This weekend, I built out six funnels for you that are pre-done, that are amazing. I'm going to give you those six. I'm going to walk you through the exact process of how we take things, how we switch them out. And by the time it's done, you'll have a lead squeeze funnel that's working. That's ready. Day six, excuse me, day four. Day four, we're going to walk you through the six day follow up funnel. This is going to give you the six emails. We're going to give you software on that day. It's going to write emails for you. Excuse me, then day number five, Rachel Miller's coming and we're gonna help you guys launch the funnel. And that's where we're going this week. It's going to be so much fun. So that's kindof the game plan, you guys. And that's it for day number one here on the 5 Day Lead Challenge. See, wasn't that, that wasn't hard, right? Okay, you got a kind of overview of the strategy. You understand what's going. Now, all your job is do is go download the one-pager and go do the homework assignments. Very simple today. You should be done by the top of the hour. You guys can be completely done and then get prepared and ready because tomorrow is when all of the fun starts. And that's when we start building out your lead funnel. So again, you guys the link down below? 5DayLeadChallenge.com/day1. That's where you're going now. Open up a new browser window, wherever you are, go to that link. Save it, make sure you save that page because when you put your notes in there, it'll save the notes for you everything. Watch the tactical video, and that's kind of it, you guys. With that said, I appreciate you, guys. First off registering. 35,000 of you guys showed up to register for this, which is crazy. Frank here on stage was like, 7,000 or 8,000 people already on live, which is so cool. So thank you so much for spending time today. I'm excited to take you guys through this process over the next five days. Make sure you commit. Make sure you show up every single day. Make sure you do the work. If you do that, again, by the time this is done, you guys can have a machine that's generating leads for whatever business you are in. It works in every business, every industry. I promise you that. It will show you in even more detail tomorrow as I go through how to build your actual lead magnet out. It's going to be so much fun, you guys. And I appreciate you guys hanging out with me today. Thanks so much. If you have any questions or comments, put them in the comments down below. Either me or my team will try to get to them. And again, thanks, you guys. Appreciate you hanging out and we'll see you guys tomorrow. Same time, same place for day number two, your lead magnet. Thanks so much, guys. And we'll see you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is day 1 of the 5 Day Lead Challenge. 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What's up, everybody. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I've got something I'm really excited for you guys over the next five episodes. Some of us know I did a live event a couple months back called the Five Day Lead Challenge where I went through the entire process like, how do you create a lead magnet that people will give you the email address for? After you have that lead magnet, how do you then create a lead funnel to be able to generate leads? Then from there, how do you write the emails? And from there, how do you drive traffic? And how do you do traffic for free if you don't want to pay for it? And it was one of my favorite things. In fact, I just went to the page right now and over 1,300 people have shared video number one. This is one that's... It's a hot topic. And I think it's something that's really, really powerful.

And so I thought that it would be cool to pull this into the podcast. So that way you guys can start listening to concepts and these principles and hear them over and over again and get these things ingrained inside of your mind. Now, a couple things, number one, this is from a live event. So there'll be times when I'm waving and showing things on a whiteboard and stuff like that you're not able to see obviously on an audio podcast. But if you'd like to see any of this, it's all free at fivedayleadchallenge.com. You can go there and you can see the videos. Plus each day there's homework assignments. There's one pagers you can download and a whole bunch of other cool things. Like I said, if you want to get access to that and see the video versions or get the one pagers or whatever, all you got to do is go to fivedayleadchallenge.com, go opt in for free, and they give you access to all the homework, and the goodies, the bonuses, the prizes, and everything else.

But right now I'm guessing you're probably seeing it home, or maybe you're working out, or you're driving. And so while you're doing that, I want to start getting these principles ingrained inside your mind. So with that said, I hope you guys enjoy day number one of the Five Day Lead Challenge. This is all about generating unlimited leads. What does that look like? What's the business model? How does it work? And hopefully, you guys will enjoy this. And on next week's episode, the next episode will go do deeper into actually creating your lead magnet. So enjoy day number one, Generating Unlimited Leads.

Oh man, I'm so excited for this. I literally could not sleep last night. I was tossing and turning in my bed and so excited. We've been putting in so much effort behind the scenes for the 5 Day Lead Challenge. I just got a message literally, right as I was walking on stage that we passed 35,000 of you who registered for this challenge, which is crazy. It shows how excited you guys are about what we're talking about. How many guys by the way are excited about we're talking about today? If you are, let me know in the comments down below. I was looking at the comments before we got started and you guys are going crazy.

So, I am so excited to be here with you guys today. And this is something you're gonna be doing over the next five days. As you know, this is the 5 Day Lead Challenge. I'm going to be going live every single day at the same time, same place and walk you through the step-by-step process to go start generating unlimited leads inside of your business, and it's going to be a lot of fun. Now, the way it's going to work, this is not going to be something that's going to be a full day thing. You're going to spend five or six hours every single day. This is something I'm gonna be going live every day at this time for probably anywhere from 30 to maybe 45 minutes max. Some days might be even shorter. Okay, my goal during that time is I'm going to be sitting here in front of the whiteboard. I want you guys to understand a strategy.

Okay, so I'm going to map out, here's the strategy. Here's how you do it a very certain thing. Okay, and then as soon as it's done, I'm going to give you guys a special link. And that link's going to take you to the thing that we call a one-pager. And the one-pager's is going to give you a tactical video. Okay, so the first half is me showing you guys the strategy that I need you all to understand. Okay, and then I'm going to give you this one-pager and there's a video it's going to walk you through the tactics. The tactics is literally me sitting at my house doing the thing that I'm teaching you how to do. Because a lot of times I'll teach something and people are like, okay, I understand that conception and know how that works, but then they try to do it and I don't know what to do or how to do it.

So you'll get a video immediately after this with today's tactics of me sitting in my house doing the assignment I did last night, I recorded it. And so you have a chance to watch that and then just follow along and copy what I do. Shouldn't take anywhere. Some assignments are short, they will take you probably 15 minutes. Tomorrow's going be a little bit longer. But hopefully my goal is about an hour to an hour and a half every single day. If you block that out every single day over the next five days, by the end of day five, you guys will have a machine that's created to help you generate leads. Okay, and it's going to be a lot of fun and I'm excited.

So you guys, and I know you guys are excited. So, we have 35,000 of you who have registered for this. So if you're excited, let me know in the comments down below, because I love feeling the energy and I can see all your faces right now. It's just fun to see what we're doing. So that's kinda the game plan. Throughout this week, I've also got two guest speakers who are coming. I'll be teaching day one, day two, day three. And then day four, I'm going to be bringing one of my friends, Yara Golden's going to be coming up. And she's going to be talking about email copy. And after you're generating these leads, what do you actually say to them? Right, how does that work? And then day five on Friday, Rachel Miller is going to be coming. She's actually flying here to Boise to spend time with you guys to talk about how do you launch your lead funnel. How do you get leads coming in and how do you do it in a way with free traffic?

Okay, because a lot of people, some guys who are here like, oh, this is awesome. I don't have money to invest right now. I don't have a budget. So we're going to show you how to launch this thing and start generating leads for free. That's going to be happening on Friday. So by the time this thing is done, all the pieces will be in place and leads will be coming in. And you'll have new leads coming into your business within five days from now. So that's my big promise to you. That's my goal. And so it's going to be a lot of fun. I only ask that you guys play full out, do the assignments, pay attention to the strategy, show up every single day for this strategy dump I'm going to be giving you guys. Show up, listen to it, understand it. When I give you the one-pager, go watch the tactical video, and then actually do the assignment. Okay, if you actually do it, you're gonna be successful at the end.

The biggest problem I have with people who come to any of these programs or coaching or they buy a course or whatever is they listened to it like, oh, this is really good. They listen to it. They listen to it. And they never do anything. Okay, this is not one of those kind of courses. This is not something for you to listen to and feel good about. This is something I'm going to give you guys. Here's the strategy. Here's the tactics, go and do it. Come back tomorrow. We'll do the next step. I'm going to be piece by piece by piece until you've got the entire system. Everything you guys need to be successful. Does that sound fair? All right, so that is the game plan and I'm not going to lie, there's so many of you guys on, I just want to talk all day today. But I'm not going to do that. We're going to keep it short because I want to make sure you guys have a chance to get to work and do today's assignment and get ready and prepared for tomorrow. But you've got to commit to coming back every single day.

Okay, this is five days. If you commit for five days, by the end of it, I promise you, guys, we can mold you, we can change you. And we can give you guys a result. That's going to change your business. And for a lot of you guys, it's actually gonna change your life as well. Okay, but you've got to commit. So how many guys right now can make a commitment that you're gonna commit to show up every single day. Number one, okay, raise your hand and say, I commit, Russell! I'm going show up every single day and watch the strategy training. Okay, that's the first commitment. The second commitment is, as soon as the training's over, I'm going to go through the tactical. I'm going to implement the thing you actually told me to do. Okay, and you're going to do it with belief that it's actually going to work.

One of the biggest things that is going to impede some of your success, is some of you guys are skeptics, right? How many of you guys have ever considered yourself, oh I'm always skeptical? I'm always making sure that everything's going to be perfect. I guarantee you that a lot of guys are skeptical. In fact, most people I know who are skeptical, never have success. The people who have success, are people who get a coach and then they believe in that coach, and they do what the coach says. Okay, being coachable is one of the most powerful tools that you're going to have in your arsenal to be successful. So if you're typically someone who's very skeptical in life, oh I'm always skeptical about things, I want to encourage you to take your skepticism for five days and just put it on the side and say, look for five days, I'm just going to trust Russell 100%. I'm gonna assume that he's knows what he's doing. I'm going to assume he's been doing this for a long time. This isn't the first rodeo. I'm assuming he's got my best interests at heart because I'm not paying anything for this, right? The 5 Day Lead Challenge is completely free.

My job is for the next five days is completely to over-deliver it and to blow your minds. And so if you will just be, take your skepticism and put them on side and just do the process. Just do your best. Just try it out. I promise you by the time, day five is done, you'll believe because it'll work for you. Okay, and that's kind of my game plan. Again, my goal in this entire process is not to waste any of your time. I know all of our time is precious. And so that's why these are going to be short sessions. We're going to give you what you need and then get to work and give you guys a result before it's over. Does that sound good? Okay, so I want to kind of, today's kind of an overarching strategy. I want you to understand where we're going. I want you to understand here's the broad picture of what we're trying to accomplish. And after you have the broad picture, then day two, day three, day four, day five is going to be, okay here's step one, step two, step three, step four. And everything we got to do to execute. So that's my game plan.

So to begin with, I'm going to cover some fundamental things. Some of you guys may have heard some of these concepts before, some of you may not have. But this is the key thing you have to understand if you're going to be successful in this 5 Day Lead Challenge. But honestly, to be successful in business as a whole. When I first got started in this business, one of my very first mentors said this to me. And I, my guess is some of you have probably heard this before, but he said is this. He said, Russell, you have to understand that in business, the money is in the list. How many of you guys have heard that before? This is not a new concept. But for me, it was like, when I heard that, I was like, what does that mean? What does it mean, the money's in the list? Like, I don't understand that. I'm in business, I sell products. I sell services, right? They said, no, you don't understand like, the list, like the customers, the people that you have, this is your real business. The fact that I was able to send out a couple emails, we got 35,000 people to register for this live event. You guys are my list. I send emails to my list and you showed up to this event where I have a chance to teach you and to train you, right. The money's in the list, like that's the asset that's the most powerful.

So, one of my first mentors told me that and I was like, okay, that's kind of cool, but I don't know what that means. Like, what is the list, right? And the list is just a bunch of leads. One lead is a person. 10 is a bunch of leads. A hundred or a thousand. That's a list of people. Okay, and so the list is the key. So in the Lead Challenge, it goes, you've generated a whole bunch of leads to the point where you've actually built up a list. Now, to kind of preface this before we get too deep in anything, I want you to understand the value of a list. Okay, what is the list actually worth? Okay, so when I got started, one of my first mentors, he told me is he said, Russell, you have to understand basic marketing math. And so this was what he said. He said, as you start your business, he's like, the numbers will change. This is not an income claim. This is just kind of the numbers a lot of people see inside of the industry. It says that you should be able to average $1 per name per month, that's on your email list.

Okay, and so they told me that and I was like, well, how does that work? And I didn't understand at first. And I'm sure some of you guys won't understand like, well, how does an email equal a dollar per month? Okay, and don't worry, I'll walk you through that and you'll kind of see that, but that's what they told me. So they said, okay. So that means, they said, well, that means if you have a thousand people on your list, you should be able to make a thousand dollars a month. Right, and if you had 10,000 people on the list, you should make about $10,000 a month. If you have a 100,000 people on list, $100,000 a month and so on. And so I remember hearing that and I was like, oh my gosh, this is amazing. Now, I was in college at the time. I remember looking at these numbers. I was like, okay, well my goal, I remember my goal at the time was if I can make six figures a year, that'd be like what my parents make. That'd be insane. So I said, okay, this is my goal. If I can get 10,000 people on a list at $10,000 a month, $10,000 a month, times, 12 months, that's $120,000. That's six figures in a year. And that was my goal. And so I was like, I gotta figure this out.

I didn't know how to get a list. Nobody told me, I just knew that I needed to list. Right, that was like, okay, I need leads, I need a list. And so some of you guys may have heard this story but after I heard that, I was like, okay, like at all costs, I need 10,000 people or 100,000. I need to get these people on my list so I can make money. And I didn't know how to do that. So I remember, and this is actually a picture. This is my very first house. My wife and I lived in after we got married. A year after we got married, we bought this duplex. And I remember I was actually right here, these windows one of the bedrooms and in those bedrooms was my was my little computer desk. I was trying to learn how to start my business. And I remember I was sitting there and I said, okay, I need to figure out how to get a list. Right, it was in this house that I got this principle from somebody.

And so, I remember going and and searching online, how to build an email list. How do you buy a list? I remember eventually I found this website. I think it was like, it was called like SpamForEmailAddresses.com or dot net or dot something. And it was like, we'll sell you a DVD with I think a million people's names on it for like $60. And I was like, wait a minute 6 million people's names and email addresses. And I'm doing the math, I'm like, okay, well, my friend said $1 per month per name on an email list. If I buy this list for $60, that's a $1,000,000 a month I can make. I'm doing the math in my head. I'm freaking out. I'm like, this is, I figured it out. Like, this is like, I know how to how to build a business now, right?

So I remember, I bought the DVD. They sent it to me, I ended up getting in the mail. It had a million people's email lists on it. I took it off. I downloaded the Excel sheet and I was so excited. It took me a couple of days to figure out how do you load it on a computer? How do you send these emails out? And I had to figure this whole thing out. And I remember the night that I queued up the emails, the software my computer had a million people's emails in this thing. And I told my wife. At the time my wife was supporting me. Okay, that was my story. I was wrestling at Boise State University. So, I was a college kid with $0. My wife was supporting us. And I remember, I told her that and I was like, Hey, this is the deal. I'm going to send an email, send out this email list. It's going to go out to a million people and money's gonna come flooding in. And I'm like, you can literally quit your job tomorrow if you want to. And she was like, oh, okay. Like, like good luck, Russell. You know, like super supportive. I didn't know what was gonna happen. And she was like, okay, I don't think we're going to make what you're thinking but you know, good luck, have some fun with it.

And so I queued up the emails. I remember, still writing an email, clicking send and then watching the first email. Like one send, two, three, four, five, six and I was like, this is it. Like, I figured it out. Right, I beat the internet. And I remember going to bed that night like just laying in bed all excited, like dreaming. It was like a kid going to bed on Christmas morning. What's going to happen? Being so excited, like in the morning. What if, what if 1% of people buy something? What if only half of 1% buy? And I started doing all the math in my head and just dreaming about what was possible. I remember the next morning I woke up, and I, firstly, I ran out of my bed, and walk to the computer, I look at the computer. And overnight, I think like 6,500 emails had been sent.

And at first I was frustrated. I'm like, oh, why is this taking so long? Like, I want all these million emails to be out because that means I'm going to be rich when it's all said and done. And about the time my wife came in and she was like, Russell, I need to use the phone. I was like, why? She's like, I need to call the office, where she worked at like, no, like you can't like, we're making money here! You should just quit. Just don't show up. It's going to be awesome. She's like, I need to call someone. So, this is back in the days before internet before we all had internet access. If you remember this, so those of you who are old school like me, we had a modem and it was plugged in. So I had to like, climb under the desk, go unplug the modem, plug her phone back in.

And as I was underneath, I plugged the phone back, all of a sudden, like the phone starts ringing while I'm still under the desk. I was like, that's weird. So I crawl out from the desk. I come and answer the phone. And on the other end, there's this person screaming at me and yelling. And I'm just like kind of confused. And eventually I realized it's my internet service provider. Okay, the person who pipes the internet into my house that I was sending out emails through. And they're yelling like, in the last like four hours, there was like 65 spam complaints from you, blah, blah, blah, blah. What's happening? Like, freaking out. And I don't know, I mean, no, no, sir. You don't understand. No, sir. You don't understand. Like, I bought the email addresses. from SpamFreeEmailAddresses.com. These people want to get spam. And the person yells at me and remember the last thing they said before they threatened lawsuits and stuff said, son, that's the definition of spam. I was like, what? But they said, you just need an email list. I was so confused.

So, eventually after they yelled at me for a long time and threatened lawsuits, they went and actually shut my internet access off. And I lost my internet account. And I remember I held it, like hanging the phone up and my wife, my beautiful wife, Collette she's like, so who was that on the phone? I'm like, oh no one, please don't quit your job today. Like, let's roll it a couple more days. And so anyway, that day I remember like being so frustrated. And I remember I couldn't check my email because I lost the internet access. And I was still a student at Boise State University at the time, so I put my backpack on. I started walking to school, all depressed and sad. I got to the computer lab at the school and opened my email.

And then the craziest thing happened. I opened my email. And you know, I always see emails from people trying to sell me stuff. And it was the first time I ever opened my email and they're like five or six orders that had come in over the night. And I was like, wait, what? I started looking at sure enough, five or six people had bought the thing that I had sold through the email. I remember just being like, oh my gosh, this worked. I did it the legal way. But like, it worked. Like, okay, I gotta figure this out. Like, how do I, like, how do I do a list that's not illegal? Right, I don't want to go buy leads. That's not how you do it. Like, how do you generate a list of people who actually want to hear from you? And I started freaking out, I got excited. And that became the question. Okay, the question was, how do I generate leads and how do I build my own list?

Okay, that was the question that started running through my head. How many of you guys have that question in the past? Or you have right now, like, okay, I want leads too. If we can make a dollar per month per lead, like I want a bunch of leads in my business as well. Right, how many of you guys are thinking about that? That was my question. That became my quest. Like, okay, how do I generate leads? How do I build a list? I got to figure this out. I was working, trying to figure it out. I was looking bunch of stuff. And eventually I heard rumors about this guy. His pen name was David DeAngelo. I've met him since then. I've become friends with him, his name's Eben Pagan. And at the time, he had a business called Double Your Dating.

And I heard rumors. I don't know what the numbers were. People like to say. Yeah, he's making tens of millions of dollars a year and all this kind of stuff. And, so I was trying to research everybody. I remember going to his website and I went to his website. What I saw was something I'd never seen before. Okay, this is what the website actually looked like. It was this little page right here. Okay, and I remember reading said, you're about to learn the secrets that most men will never know about women. And I was like, okay. And it said, inside, you're going to learn the Kiss Test, how to tell if she's ready to be kissed. I remember reading that. I was like, whoa, what is the Kiss Test? I want to know what that is. Okay, now putting this in context of my own personal timeline.

About the time I'm reading this, I had just gotten married to my beautiful wife. We'd married about a year. I just got our internet access shut down, all of these things. And I'm looking at this page, I'm like, this is amazing. And I was like, I want to put my email address in there to see what in the world, the Kiss Test is. But I'm like, wait, if I put my email address in on this dating website, teaching men how to get women, what's my wife gonna think? I remember being like, torn. Like I want to funnel hack this person. I want to go and see what's happening behind the scenes. But if I do that, it's going to be weird for my wife.

So I remember that night, like waiting for her to come home from work, she was supporting me. And she came home and I was like, Collette, I need to ask you a favor. I think she was kind of nervous. I'm like, there's this website that is doing something cool. This guy has got this huge email list. I don't know. I don't understand what he's doing or how he's doing it. But I want to like put my email address in to understand what he's doing. Can I do that? And she's like, yeah. Why would you care? I'm like, because it's a site teaching people how to pick up girls. And she's like, what am I? I know, I don't even know. I suppose to see what he's doing. I need to understand the process. And so we kind of laughed about it. And so she came with me and I came to this page and I, together, we opted in. So I put in my first name, my email address, and I clicked submit to get instant access to find out what the Kiss Test was. So I did that and I'm waiting on the next page to be blown away by like some video or some training course or something. But on the next page, all it was, this little page looked like.

It was like an article, maybe a page and a half, two page article. And at the very top, it said, this is the Kiss Test. Let me teach you how it works. Okay, now again, I was married at the time. So I didn't, I hadn't been on a date outside of my wife for a long time. So I didn't try to put myself in the context. If I was a single guy who was struggling to get girls, like how valuable would this information be to me? And so this is where the Kiss Test was. David DeAngelo said, what do you do, at the end of the date, you walk a girl up to the door. Okay, and as you're sitting there, this is the awkward spot. Right, do I kiss her? Or no, one of us freaks out and they want to run away. He said, this is the secret. He said, all you need to do is go up there and you put your hand behind her hair. Like, you're gonna put your hair behind her ear. Okay, and if she pulls back, that means don't kiss her, run as fast as you can. Okay, but as she turns her head into your hand, that's the key that she's ready to be kissed. And then boom, you go for the move. And that's the Kiss Test.

I remember reading that as like, oh my gosh, like that it wasn't this huge long report or PDF. It was like a paragraph. It was this little paragraph right here saying, this is the Kiss Test and I remember reading that I was like, if I was a single guy right now, I just received value. I was like, oh my gosh. That was really, really cool. What else does this guy have? And if he kept reading the page at the bottom he's like, Hey, if you want another tip like this, go buy my ebook called Double Your Dating, click there. And it took you to go buy his ebook, which had a whole bunch of different tips and secrets like that. And I remember looking at and I studied this over for like weeks. I'm like, this is how this guy's building this huge list. He's got this weird website that the only thing you can do is put your email address in and next page, he gives you this really cool thing that dudes really, really want. And like, this is how he's built this huge email list of hundreds, of thousands of people. And makes millions of dollars a year.

And so the more I looked at it, the more I was trying to figure out how does this work? I need to put these pieces together. And what I realized and what I kind of find out as I started learning more about this is that this Kiss Test, right? This thing right here, that he had created. This is what we call a lead magnet. Lead magnet is something that's going to draw. It's going to attract your dream customers to you. Okay, and a lot of you guys have heard of a lead magnet before, but this is one of the keys to building your own list is the lead magnet. Something that people want. Okay, so for him, he's in the market of like, I need to figure out how to pick up girls. Okay, the lead magnet was the Kiss Test. I'll teach you the Kiss Test if you give me your email address, okay. I'm going to exchange this thing for you.

Okay, and that was the lead magnet. Okay, so I started thinking for my business, who are my dream customers? What do they look like? Like, what are those people like that I wanted to bring into my world? Who is my dream customer? I start thinking, what is the lead magnet I could create that would get those people attracted to me? Where they're on the internet surfing on their phones, swiping through, all of a sudden they saw something like, whoa, I want that thing. I want to learn the Kiss Test. I want to learn the, whatever the thing is. And that lead magnet thing gets them to stop scrolling, click on a button, come over to you, give you their email address, and now they become a lead. Okay, and the more leads you get, you started building this list. Okay, and the value in your business is your list. That is the key. Okay, so after seeing this, I was like, okay, this is the game. I know how to play now. Now that I knew the rules, I knew how to play so I'm not spamming who people don't want to hear from me but I'm getting people who are interested, who come to me because I have value. Okay, this is how we build the list of people who actually want to hear from me.

Okay, so I did what hopefully you guys are going to be doing this week, as well. I said, okay, I'm going to go and create my first lead magnet. I'm gonna set up a lead squeeze funnel. I'm going to do exactly what he's doing. Okay, so I did that. Okay, I modeled it as close as I could. I build up my very first lead squeeze funnel. I put it out there and I launched it. And I want to come back to these numbers 'cause these numbers were actually interesting. Initially for me, my numbers almost synced to what I was told earlier from one of my friends. Okay, I still remember the very first month that I started, that I had my first lead magnet. I was driving traffic.

The very first month, I got 217 people who opted in. I don't know why I remember that number. I think it's 'cause it was like, I was freaking out like 217 people. Like, that's a lot of people who have given me their email address. Now they're on an email list. I can send emails to talking about the products and the services I want to sell. And that first month, I said 217 people joined my list, and I made about $300 that month. Okay, now for me, as a college kid, $300 a month. $300 my very first month was insane. Like that was just like, I couldn't even, I couldn't even fathom. Like I feel like I was the richest kid in the world. Now, to put this in perspective. At that time, my wife and that blue house we were living in, that I showed you earlier. That was a duplex. I bought that duplex because I wanted to make cashflow. So I spent, I don't know $150,000 on this duplex. We lived in half. We had a renter in the other half and the renters paid us. And my cashflow on that rental was like $150, $200 a month. Right, and I remember thinking I made for my 217 person email list. I made almost double what I did it my real estate. On my real estate, I spent $150,000 to buy this thing to cashflow like $150, $200 bucks a month. Whereas here, I'd built a list of 217 people. And I cash flowed double that. And for me at that point, I was like, I am all in. I'm going to put all my eggs in this basket of I got to figure out how to grow lists. How do I do it?

And so I started driving more and more traffic. And by month number two, excuse me, month number two, I'd built an email list. My list had gone from 217 people to about 5,000 people. Okay, and sure enough, that month I made about $5,000 in my business. Okay, and I was like, how do I grow this bigger? Right, reinvest that money into generate more leads and more leads. And eventually my list went from 5,000 to 10,000 to a 100,000 to now we have lists of multiple millions of people. Which is why you can send an email and get 35,000 people to come and register. Our list has grown so big. Okay, now a couple of interesting things. My friend told me this, like, if you average $1 per name per month, that that is definitely like a good standard but it's honestly, it's very, very low.

Okay, and what I learned over the last almost two decades of doing this now is that there is a direct correlation between how much money you make and the relationship you build with that list. Okay, you don't have to have a list of a million people to make millions of dollars. In fact, a lot of times, if you've got a local business, like some of you guys here that are registered run restaurants. You've got local businesses. Like there's not a million people in your city, right. If you're Boise, Idaho, and you're a chiropractor or dentist or a masseuse or something here, you're not going to get a million people on your list. That's okay. But if you get a thousand people on your list, man, you're going to average a lot more because you can build a better relationship with somebody locally than you can virtually.

In fact, I've seen dentists and chiropractors who average hundreds of dollars per name per month on their list as well. But the key still is getting leads. The more leads you get and the bigger that list grows. Now I want you understand this is true for every business. One of the big questions I got a lot from people as we were launching this and putting on this lead challenge was, well, Russell, again, I'm a network marketer. Like I don't sell my own product. Like, will this work for me? Or Russell, I am a chiropractor. How would this work for me? Or I'm a dentist. Or in fact, my brother who hopefully is watching this right now. My brother runs a band. He's got a label. And he told me, I was like, you should come be part of the 5 Day Challenge. He's like, it doesn't make sense for me. My business is different. I'm like, does your business need leads? Every business needs leads. I don't care what business you're in, it's not different. This process works for every single business.

Right now, on Click Funnels, as of today, we have over 120,000 active members. Every business, every industry you can dream of. Okay, every one of those businesses needs two things. They need leads and need to sell stuff. Okay, so if you need leads, this is the process. I don't care if you are starting a new business, if you've got a huge business that needs tens of thousands of leads a day. Or if you're a business you need 20 leads. This process will work for you. It does not matter. It works in every business. I promise you, we've done this over and over and over and over again. This is not my first rodeo. Okay, and so I want you guys to understand that like no matter what kind of business you're in, you're going to need leads. And so, anyway, I'll kind of start there and I won't go too much on my rant. I want you guys to understand that.

Okay, so I'm gonna walk you guys through the system. The system we're gonna be talking about over the next couple of days. So, the first part in this process that we're going to be going through, this is going to be what we're going to be spending all the time on tomorrow. The first step here is, we're all going to create your very own lead magnet. Okay, and we're spending a lot of time tomorrow going into that. So, I'm not going to go too deep right now. But that's the first step, is creating a lead magnet. I don't care what business you're in. You need to have a lead magnet. A lead magnet is a thing that gets people to raise their hand to come to you. It's the Kiss Test. It's this challenge is a lead magnet for me. All these things, you're creating a lead magnet to get somebody in.

And again, I'm gonna spend a lot of time tomorrow going deep into this, but I want you understand, I don't care what business you're in. You always can create lead magnets. This is how a lead magnet works. Okay, if you think about your business right now, this is your dream customer. This is the person that you want to attract. If you think about this, typically when you're trying to attract somebody into your business, you're trying to get somebody where you know something they don't know right now. And so, I always look back and say, okay, in every business, every business has some result that they promise a client, right?

So up here, this is a mountain. Let's say this is a big result you offer somebody. So this is the result. And so what you're doing is, you're trying to get these people right here to come to get this result. So, let me do this for a couple of different businesses, right? So let's just say you are a dentist. What is the big result you promising somebody? If you're a dentist, you probably say, my result. I'm gonna promise you. I'm going to help you get clean teeth that are white, that are straight, that are amazing. If you're a chiropractor, we're gonna teach you guys. The result you're promising people is to get out of pain and get an aligned spine. If you're in the dating market, your result is to get a date for your client. There's there's all these things, right? Every single business there's a result.

Okay, if I don't care what it is, if you're, yeah. I'm not gonna go too deep in this. I want you guys think about it for your own business. But every business there's results. What's the result that you're promising your client. Okay, think about that. Like what's the result you're promising your dream client when they come into your world? Now the cool thing about this is my guess is this was you at one time, and then you went and you actually achieved this result. You got this result. You finished it. And as you did that result, there was a process you went through. There were steps. Step one, step two, step three, step four. There was these steps you took to get the result. There's the step-by-step process. That helps them get this result. And now that you know that process, what we do is we say, okay, here's the process to get this certain result. Okay, you come back here.

So, okay, I'm going to create this thing. This is my lead magnet. Lead magnet. It's going to walk you through the process to get the result. Here's the first step. Here's the second step. Here's the third step. Here's the four step. So again, in the example from Double Your Dating, the lead magnet was, I'm going to show you guys the Kiss Test. How to kiss a girl. Know if you're gonna kiss a girl. That's the result that he was promising here inside of his lead magnet. And all lead magnet was like, okay, now let me walk you through the steps. Step number one, you walk her to the doorstep. Number two, you go like this. Step number three. And so you walk them through the process to get the result you're promising them. So every lead magnet is tied to some result. Here's the result you're going to get if you give me your email address.

And so we're gonna spend a lot of time tomorrow going into this and I'm going to walk you guys through the process of how we figure out what is the right result. What's the one that's gonna be most powerful lead magnet that will draw this person towards you. So I said that's going to be the game plan we're going to go deep on tomorrow. I'm so excited for that session. And then after we figured out how to create this. how to create this actual lead magnet, I'm going to show you is how to take this concept, this framework that you're creating, and how do we put it into something that's tangible. Okay, and tomorrow we'll be giving you guys a software tool that'll be really cool. I promise you guys, there's gonna be two software tools you guys get for free while you hang out during the live events.

The first one, I'm going to give you guys tomorrow. And it's going to take this abstract framework abstract idea that you have and turn it into a physical thing. A physical lead magnet that people will give you their email address for. It's gonna be fun. Okay, so that's the first step here. Oops, the first step here's this process is creating the lead magnet. Okay, and so I've got a couple examples here on my slides. So this is an example. This one is super simple.

This is Brendon Burchard. A lot of you guys know Brendon. This is one of his lead magnets. It's called the one-page productivity planner, used by CEOs and achievers worldwide. Okay, again, like the Kiss Test, Kiss Test is a paragraph. This is a one-page productivity planner. Your lead magnet does not need to be this huge extravagant crazy hard thing. It can be like, here's the five steps to get a whiter smile, get your teeth cleaned by, in a weekend, right? Or make your smile whiter in a weekend. It could be the five steps to be more productive as an event planner. It could be like, figure, like, what is your business, right? You think about who is your dream customer? What's the thing that you could create for them that is going to get them to want to give you their email address. Tomorrow, I'm going to brainstorm a whole bunch of ideas. So, you don't have to you won't have to stress about what that thing is.

Okay, because tomorrow I'm gonna give you guys a framework. We'll take you through to figure out exactly what that lead magnet needs to be. That's gonna be the most impactful and the most powerful, okay? But this is example is very, very simple. Lead magnet like that. This is a lead magnet. A lot of you guys have seen this. This is my Marketing Secrets Blackbook. This is a bunch of, it's a little black book with a bunch of different marketing secrets in it. And it's this lead magnet we created and we give it away for free to get people's email addresses. Okay, so that's the first step right there. The very first step is creating a lead magnet. And that's what we're doing tomorrow. Okay, all right. That's step one.

Step number two. After you create the lead magnet, then we need to create the process. The funnel is actually going to turn this and it's going to get somebody to give me their email address. So this is called the lead funnel. And based on this criteria, they put in their email address. Click submit And this person now becomes a lead. Okay, so step number two, after we create the lead magnet, this is going to be tomorrow. This is day two. Then day three, we're going to build out the lead funnel. And I actually literally myself, pre-built out six of these funnels for you guys that I'm going to show you guys, that I'm going to give you guys on Wednesday.

Okay, and so this is how it works. This is Brendon's again, the lead funnel is the most simple funnel of all the funnels, which is really exciting. Step number one, it's like, Hey, I'm going to give you this free thing. If you give me your email address. They then give you the email address and the next page you give it to them. Very simple, very easy. It's not difficult at all. And so we're going to show you is that. This is again, my Marketing Secrets Blackbook one. This one of the most simple lead funnels we've ever created. If you look at this, actually this pitch was probably six months ago, but in the first year this was live, it generated 272,000 leads. It took me less than five minutes to put together this landing page. 272,000 leads. You guys see the number right there. Think about it from the math I told you guys about earlier. By creating this two-page photo, I gave yourself a $272,000 a month raise, right? If I was following the stats and numbers I'd showed you guys earlier.

Can we understand like this is the power. You create something like this, and it can generate leads on. You can generate leads where you consistently day in and day out, over and over and over again. And so this is a very simple, it's a two-step funnel. In fact, this funnel right here, I'm going to give you guys this exact funnel so you can just copy. Take your lead magnet, take mine out, plug yours in, and you can be off to the races very, very quickly. So again, day two, tomorrow we build the lead magnet. By the time tomorrow is done, it's not going to be, okay, I got to build my lead. By the time tomorrow's done, your lead magnet will be finished. It'll be complete. It'll be cool. It'll be creating a really cool tool that'll make it very powerful people. Okay, day three, we'll build out your lead funnel. It'll be finished. And then you can plug in your lead magnet. These two pieces will be done by Wednesday.

Okay, and then Thursday comes in, the question is like, okay, Russell, you said that when traffic comes in here, we're start making money off the leads. How do you make money off of leads? Well, the way you make money off of leads is they give you the email address, they come down here and then guess what? These people 'cause everyone would give us an email address is a person, these are all human beings, right? They put the email address in and now you have an email sequence you start sending out. So, you send an email right here. And the next day, you send another email, right? You send out these different emails to build a relationship with them. Okay, and if you do the emails the wrong way, what'll happen is you'll send two emails and people never open your emails again. If you do it the right way, people will look forward to emails. They'll whitelist you to make sure that your emails show up, right? So there's a right way and a wrong way.

So on Thursday, Yara is gonna be coming to teach you guys her six email sequence. What are the most powerful six emails you can send out somebody as soon as they give you the email address. These are the emails that have been tested. They've been proven. If you structure them the right way, it'll build the relationship with your audience. They'll be more likely to open emails in the future. And they're going to buy the products and services you sell. Okay, and the cool thing is we actually built software for this as well. So on that day, for those who show up live here, you're going to get the software, we're basically fill in blanks. You click a button. It'll pre-write these six emails with your stories weaved into them, and then you just copy and paste them. Now you've got those in as well. So that's what's going to be happening on day number four. Let's see, I'll put it here on blue. It's day four, we're working on the email sequences.

All right. And the day number five. Let me show you this real quick. So, here we go. So this is what it looks like from a standpoint over here. Leads come in, they put an email address in there, and you start sending emails. So here's how you write the emails right here. So this is the first email that goes out and the second. And as they go through, day one they get this email. Day two, they get this email. Day three, day four, day five, day six. What walks them through this process of getting these emails. Each email takes them and builds that relationship. So then we're more likely to buy from me in the future. Remember, when I told you guys before on average, you should average $1 per month, $1 per name per month on your list. Okay, if you do this the right way, this is how you build the relationship with how much you make per person will dramatically go up based on the relationship you have with them. It's these first six emails are critical. They're the key, we're going to literally teach you them, give you the software to write them, and you'll have them done. That will be done on Thursday, which is pretty exciting.

Okay, so that's happening there. And then the last step now is okay, I've got the machine, everything's built. I've got my lead magnet. It's amazing, I got my landing page here. I've got the emails going out. Now, the last step is how do we get traffic to start coming to me? So, we start getting traffic. How do we get traffic from here and from here? And there's a million different ways to get traffic, right? In fact, a lot of you guys know, my third book is called Traffic Secrets and there's a million ways to get traffic that I talk about in there. But I wanted to start with something that's simple.

Okay, a lot of you guys are coming to this. You don't have a huge budget, right? You're not sure how to generate leads. And so Rachel Miller's coming on Friday and she's going to show you guys ways to generate leads that don't cost any money. How do you generate traffic is not going to cost you a ton of money to get people coming in here, putting the email address in, to get your lead magnet, following up with them. And so the whole process will start working for you. And so Friday, we're gonna focus on launching your funnel. And that's the last step here in the 5 Day is on Friday, we're launch your funnel and get this whole thing working for you. So this is where we're going this week. This is the process you guys, okay.

Again, we're going to build out your lead magnet, get your lead squeeze funnel figured out, write out your five day email, excuse me, your six day email sequence. We're going to launch to get traffic in. And if we can accomplish this by the end of this week, that's the goal. That's my game plan. And each of you guys will have a process. You'll have a system in place to continually generate leads inside your business. I have so many friends who, at one point in their business, they had to generate leads, right? A lot of you guys when you first start your business, you get to college and go, Hey, I'm gonna start my store or my business or whatever. You create it. And you launch it and you do all the advertising, all the efforts and stuff and leads start coming in and guess what happens? You start getting busy. Now, I got a service all these clients. I got to service things and you stop focusing on generating more leads. And what happens eventually? Eventually your business dries up Leads, customers, traffic coming into your business.

This is the lifeblood of your business. If your business is struggling, especially during these crazy times are now, my guess is because you don't have any life. You have any blood coming into your business. You don't have new leads coming in consistently. This is the key, is the new leads coming in consistently. So my job, my goal with you guys is to create this process, get it set up. And now leads will continually be coming in. And I don't care in the backside of here. I don't care what it is you're selling. If you're selling, if you're in network marketing, this process will work for you. And at the end of this, you will get people to sign up for, to be a distributor underneath you. If you're selling physical products, I don't care. Follow this process. By the time it's done, people will buying more of your physical products.

Okay, if you're a coach and author, speaker, like whatever it is, I don't care what business you're in. If you're a masseuse, if you're running a band, if you're doing like whatever. It does not matter what kind of business you're in. Every business needs leads. This is the way you get leads. And it works consistently in every business, every industry we've tried. And so I want you guys to take that out your, of like, oh, that sounds good, Russell. I've heard this before. This is more for my type of business, whatever. Take the skepticism. Take it, put it on the shelf, and just trust me. Tomorrow, we're going to go deep into building your lead magnet. If any of you guys are like, this won't work for me because my business is different. I'm going to show you guys how to break down what you do into the right kind of lead magnet that will attract anybody. It'll attract your dream customers to you. And so that's kind of the goal and game plan. So I'm excited.

This is the game process what we're going to doing this week. Does that sound good? You guys all on board for that? Okay, so let me walk you guys through what to expect for the rest of the week. So again, what's going to be happening is every single day at the same time, I'm going to be going live from the stage, talking to you guys. So there it is, that's going to be happening every single day. And again, all the things, we're about 40 minutes right now. It's going to probably, probably 30 minutes mostly. It's going to be a 30 minutes session. I'm going to give you a strategy. Here's the strategy you got to understand. And then after that, I'm going to give you a thing called a one-pager. This is what the one-pager looks like. And about a minute from now, I'm going to give you guys the one pager for day number one.

Your job with these one-pagers is not to sit around and like do nothing with it. It is to come here immediately and first off, watch the video at the top. The video here at the top, this is me at my house doing your assignment each day. Today's assignment's very simple as you will see. Tomorrow's assignment, I'm going to literally build out an entire lead magnet with you. So you don't have to think about like strategically how does this work? Like you just click play and watch the tactical video of Russell making it and then pause it, do it, press play, pause, and just copy me. Okay, I'm going to walk you through the process. There's no guesswork, there's no thinking, there's no messing things up. Just do it right here. You watch the videos and give you a tactics. And down here is going to show you what we talked about. It's going to give you a place where you can fill in your answers. Things you can brainstorm. Things you can think to. Examples, case studies. All the stuff you need to be successful.

So again, every day I'm going live, giving you the strategy. And then as soon as the strategy is done, immediately afterwards, I'm going to give you the one pager. It's going to give you the tactics and your homework for today. I do not want you guys falling behind. So many times people come into my trainings, like, okay I'm gonna listen to all of the strategy first. And then I'm going to get started. If you do that, I promise you, you will fail.

Arguably, some of the most successful people in our ClickFunnels community are Brandon and Kaitlin Poulin. Some of you guys know if you Google Lady Boss, you will find out more about them. And when they came into our world, they had been in a network marketing company. The company just gone under, they were broke. They were like, what are we going to do with our lives? And they went through our training. And it's crazy, I've watched them grow the business from where they were to now over millions of women, they've helped help them lose weight. And I said, what was the difference between you and like everybody else that I coach and I teach like, why did you guys have so much success and Brandon said something so interesting to me.

He said, most people go through the course. They watch the entire course. They're like, okay. And they're getting ideas. They're brainstorming. Excuse me. They're doing the entire course. He says that, so they're always assuming that at the end they're going to start and then start doing the process. Because they, nobody does that. Because the deeper you get, the more overwhelmed, because there's more things and more things and more things. That if you haven't started earlier, you get in trouble. He said the thing that we did different than everyone else is we bought the same training everyone else bought, we click play. And then when you told me to do something, we paused it, and we went, and did the thing. He said, I don't care if it took a day, a week, a month, a year. We went and did the thing before he came back and push play on day number two. Okay, and that was the secret. Is if you guys want the same thing, I don't want you watching the live strategy sessions and say, okay I'm going to do tactics next week. No, this is something we're doing together. This is a workshop. This is a challenge. It's not something where you're just going to, like, I don't want to just talk about things that make you feel good. I want you to execute and get things done.

And so again, you watch the live strategy here, immediately after, I'll give you the one-pager or you go watch the tactical video, go and do it. Go apply it and get it done, and then be ready for the next day. Every single day builds upon the last day. If you skip one of the days, the whole thing falls apart. Okay, so don't miss it. Watch the live training, jump on, watch the tactical, get the one-pager, and do the homework. Does that makes sense, everybody? Could you all commit to me you'll do that right now? Say, yes, Russell, I will do it.

Okay, so going to happen now is down below here, they're going to drop a link to today's one-pager. Okay, you can see the link there. You can see it? Cool, so this is where you can download today's one-pager. You go right there, it's 5DayLeadChallenge.com/day1 When you go there, it's going to take you this page right here. And all you do is watch this video and it's going to walk you through everything you gotta do. And that's it. Again, today's homework assignment is super simple. It shouldn't take you more like 10 minutes max, probably less than that. It's going show you some case studies. It'll show you some examples. Show you how to get your one-pager account all set up so you can save all these one-pagers every single day. And that's about it for today. Okay, today's the easy day. Tomorrow, on the other hand, it's going to be a little more complicated. Tomorrow, we start having some fun.

So again, this is the five day game plan again. Today was talking about unlimited leads. Help you see the vision. This is what we're creating. This is why we're creating. This is how all the pieces fit together. Tomorrow, 100% focus on the lead magnet. I'm going to walk you through the strategy. How do we figure out the right thing? That things going to be the sexiest, the most exciting, gets the most people when they're sitting at home scrolling through Instagram or Facebook to stop and think I need that thing. Click on the button, come over, and you can give you their email address. Now they're on your list, right? So that's going to create the lead magnets tomorrow.

And again, this is not just a theoretical thing by the time tomorrow is done, if you follow the process, your lead magnet will be finished. Day number three, we're going to build a lead squeeze funnel. This weekend, I built out six funnels for you that are pre-done, that are amazing. I'm going to give you those six. I'm going to walk you through the exact process of how we take things, how we switch them out. And by the time it's done, you'll have a lead squeeze funnel that's working. That's ready. Day six, excuse me, day four. Day four, we're going to walk you through the six day follow up funnel. This is going to give you the six emails. We're going to give you software on that day. It's going to write emails for you. Excuse me, then day number five, Rachel Miller's coming and we're gonna help you guys launch the funnel. And that's where we're going this week. It's going to be so much fun.

So that's kindof the game plan, you guys. And that's it for day number one here on the 5 Day Lead Challenge. See, wasn't that, that wasn't hard, right? Okay, you got a kind of overview of the strategy. You understand what's going. Now, all your job is do is go download the one-pager and go do the homework assignments. Very simple today. You should be done by the top of the hour. You guys can be completely done and then get prepared and ready because tomorrow is when all of the fun starts. And that's when we start building out your lead funnel. So again, you guys the link down below? 5DayLeadChallenge.com/day1. That's where you're going now. Open up a new browser window, wherever you are, go to that link. Save it, make sure you save that page because when you put your notes in there, it'll save the notes for you everything. Watch the tactical video, and that's kind of it, you guys.

With that said, I appreciate you, guys. First off registering. 35,000 of you guys showed up to register for this, which is crazy. Frank here on stage was like, 7,000 or 8,000 people already on live, which is so cool. So thank you so much for spending time today. I'm excited to take you guys through this process over the next five days. Make sure you commit. Make sure you show up every single day. Make sure you do the work. If you do that, again, by the time this is done, you guys can have a machine that's generating leads for whatever business you are in. It works in every business, every industry. I promise you that. It will show you in even more detail tomorrow as I go through how to build your actual lead magnet out. It's going to be so much fun, you guys. And I appreciate you guys hanging out with me today. Thanks so much.

If you have any questions or comments, put them in the comments down below. Either me or my team will try to get to them. And again, thanks, you guys. Appreciate you hanging out and we'll see you guys tomorrow. Same time, same place for day number two, your lead magnet. Thanks so much, guys. And we'll see you soon.

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]]> 2915 no The Room Where It Happens... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-room-where-it-happens It's "Inner Circle" week. I want to tell you about what's actually going on in the room where it happens. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000 The Room Where It Happens... full 511 Russell Brunson | YAP Media It's "Inner Circle" week. I want to tell you about what's actually going on in the room where it happens. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? Good morning. It's Inner... It's "Inner Circle" week. I want to tell you about what's actually going on in the room where it happens. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices It's "Inner Circle" week. I want to tell you about what's actually going on in the room where it happens.

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]]> 941 no Holy Crap! Learn This, And Then Change The World https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/holy-crap-learn-this-and-then-change-the-world Yeah literally, when you understand these core principles, you can change the world in as many crazy ways as you would like to. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers podcast. And I'm not going to lie, I'm pinching myself right now. I cannot believe that this is my life. Okay, so I want to talk about why you guys have to master these skill sets. And I know you guys, I'm preaching the choir, you're the ones listening to the podcast. You're reading the books, you're doing the challenges, you're going to the adventure. You're in it, right? Which is awesome. But I want to just restate why this is so important. After you have the skill set, you can do so many cool things with it. And it is the most exciting thing in the world. So, it's 8:20 at night, I just got done at the office doing a webinar for Operation Underground Railroad, where we raise a bunch of money for human trafficking. And helped promote my favorite charity, right? Which is a cool thing, like philanthropy. I can never say that word, philanthropic or philanthropy. You guys know what I'm talking about, helping charities. Which isn't like so cool. But then also at the same time right now I was just boxing with Steven Larson, and I was like, "It's crazy what we're going to do right now." And yes I have ADD, don't do what I'm doing. Focus on one project. But I've got a big team of people now. And right now I'm currently actively working on a whole bunch of books. For example, Dan Kennedy and I are co-writing a book right now, so I'm working on that. I'm also still in the process writing my big next book, which is Secrets of Success that I'm so excited for. But on top of that, I'm also republishing a whole bunch of old Napoleon Hill thing to new books. I've got five or six other high ticket books in production. We're launching a huge supplement company, actually three supplement companies. I shouldn't be telling you this. We got our coaching programs Inner Circle, My Category Kings, Clickfunnels 2.0 is coming out, and my certification program. All these things, it's just crazy and it's just the same skill set done over and over and over and over and over again, which is all of these things you've been talking about. Right? Learning how to give presentations, building a following. And when you have these skill sets, you can apply it towards anything you want, right? Apply it towards your mission, apply it towards somebody else's mission. Apply it towards a book you want to write, or apply it towards a book you want to write with somebody else. Apply it towards somebody else's book that you happen to like. Oh, it's just, it's so cool and so exciting. And it's crazy that this is what we could do with our lives. So I wanted to box that in the moment as I'm feeling this excitement. I literally was just boxing this to Steven Larson, and then now I'm like, "God! This is so cool. I want to share with everybody." And so it's worth mastering these skill sets. At first it's frustrating, it can painful and you got to learn a lot, you got to grow a lot, and you got to do all these things. But then you can use it for so much good and so much fun. You want to publish a new book, go and do it. I'm trying to bring back from the dead all these Napoleon Hill works and Charles Haanel, and Orison Swett Marden, and Samuel Smiles and all these people that I love and I respect. Who are the most amazing work in the world that it's forgotten off this planet. And because I have this skill set and I love it, I'm able to now go and bring it back from the dead. And because I understand all the stuff you guys are learning right now, so I don't know, I'm just excited. This is going to be a short podcast because it's nothing more than I'm just excited. But I'm hopefully casting a vision for you guys in the future. Okay, I need to learn these things because I got all sorts of stuff I want to do with my life. I have charities I care about, I have missions I want to do. I have whatever, like all the... There's so many cool things. It's funny my very first home study course I ever created was on public domain, very first one. And now almost 20 years later, I'm obsessed with public domain. I'm buying all these books and I want to show it to you guys, because I think there's such a valuable thing. So many guys can be finding these works in your markets of people who have passed on and bringing their messages and their stories back from the dead, and helping extend their legacy, which is such a cool thing too. So, I don't know, you guys want me to do a trading on that specifically on the public domain and how to profit from it, and have fun with it, and use it for all sorts of things. From lead magnets, to backend, to front-ends to... Oh, anyway, sorry. I digress. I'm excited. And now I just got to the high school, I'm running in to go grab my kids who are wrestling practice. Well, one of my kids is at wrestling practice, and tomorrow morning I have my wrestling practice and I'm preparing for my tournament. Anyway, I'm excited. I'm happy. Hopefully you guys are as well. I know that there's ups and downs. Everyone goes through different parts of it. But I think sometimes hearing the excitement can be good. There's other times in my life where I'm stressed out and overwhelmed, which is even yesterday I felt that way. In fact, you can ask my team. I was like super overwhelmed. But we got things in place. I got structure around and I got people helping with a lot of pieces that I'm struggling with. And now I'm back to the spot where I'm like in this creation, fun, so exciting. So anyway, thanks to you guys for listening. I'm your biggest fan. I'm cheering for you, I'm praying for you. I'm working my butt off to make things easier and more... to give you the ability to have more success. So, hopefully I'm able to do that and hopefully you guys are listening, paying attention you're doing the things you're learning. So, grateful for you all, thanks for listening. And now it's time to get back to work. Let's go and change the world. All right, talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Holy Crap! Learn This, And Then Change The World full 510 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Yeah literally, when you understand these core principles, you can change the world in as many crazy ways as you would like to. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody.... Yeah literally, when you understand these core principles, you can change the world in as many crazy ways as you would like to. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers podcast. And I'm not going to lie, I'm pinching myself right now. I cannot believe that this is my life. Okay, so I want to talk about why you guys have to master these skill sets. And I know you guys, I'm preaching the choir, you're the ones listening to the podcast. You're reading the books, you're doing the challenges, you're going to the adventure. You're in it, right? Which is awesome. But I want to just restate why this is so important. After you have the skill set, you can do so many cool things with it. And it is the most exciting thing in the world. So, it's 8:20 at night, I just got done at the office doing a webinar for Operation Underground Railroad, where we raise a bunch of money for human trafficking. And helped promote my favorite charity, right? Which is a cool thing, like philanthropy. I can never say that word, philanthropic or philanthropy. You guys know what I'm talking about, helping charities. Which isn't like so cool. But then also at the same time right now I was just boxing with Steven Larson, and I was like, "It's crazy what we're going to do right now." And yes I have ADD, don't do what I'm doing. Focus on one project. But I've got a big team of people now. And right now I'm currently actively working on a whole bunch of books. For example, Dan Kennedy and I are co-writing a book right now, so I'm working on that. I'm also still in the process writing my big next book, which is Secrets of Success that I'm so excited for. But on top of that, I'm also republishing a whole bunch of old Napoleon Hill thing to new books. I've got five or six other high ticket books in production. We're launching a huge supplement company, actually three supplement companies. I shouldn't be telling you this. We got our coaching programs Inner Circle, My Category Kings, Clickfunnels 2.0 is coming out, and my certification program. All these things, it's just crazy and it's just the same skill set done over and over and over and over and over again, which is all of these things you've been talking about. Right? Learning how to give presentations, building a following. And when you have these skill sets, you can apply it towards anything you want, right? Apply it towards your mission, apply it towards somebody else's mission. Apply it towards a book you want to write, or apply it towards a book you want to write with somebody else. Apply it towards somebody else's book that you happen to like. Oh, it's just, it's so cool and so exciting. And it's crazy that this is what we could do with our lives. So I wanted to box that in the moment as I'm feeling this excitement. I literally was just boxing this to Steven Larson, and then now I'm like, "God! This is so cool. I want to share with everybody." And so it's worth mastering these skill sets. At first it's frustrating, it can painful and you got to learn a lot, you got to grow a lot, and you got to do all these things. But then you can use it for so much good and so much fun. You want to publish a new book, go and do it. I'm trying to bring back from the dead all these Napoleon Hill works and Charles Haanel, and Orison Swett Marden, and Samuel Smiles and all these people that I love and I respect. Who are the most amazing work in the world that it's forgotten off this planet. And because I have this skill set and I love it, I'm able to now go and bring it back from the dead. And because I understand all the stuff you guys are learning right now, so I don't know, I'm just excited. This is going to be a short podcast because it's nothing more than I'm just excited. But I'm hopefully casting a vision for you guys in the future. Okay, I need to learn these things because I got all sorts of stuff I want to do with my life. I have charities I care about, I have missions I want to do. I have whatever, like all the... There's so many cool things. It's funny my very first home study course I ever created was on public domain, very first one. And now almost 20 years later, I'm obsessed with public domain. I'm buying all these books and I want to show it to you guys, because I think there's such a valuable thing. So many guys can be finding these works in your markets of people who have passed on and bringing their messages and their stories back from the dead, and helping extend their legacy, which is such a cool thing too. So, I don't know, you guys want me to do a trading on that specifically on the public domain and how to profit from it, and have fun with it, and use it for all sorts of things. From lead magnets, to backend, to front-ends to... Oh, anyway, sorry. I digress. I'm excited. And now I just got to the high school, I'm running in to go grab my kids who are wrestling practice. Well, one of my kids is at wrestling practice, and tomorrow morning I have my wrestling practice and I'm preparing for my tournament. Anyway, I'm excited. I'm happy. Hopefully you guys are as well. I know that there's ups and downs. Everyone goes through different parts of it. But I think sometimes hearing the excitement can be good. There's other times in my life where I'm stressed out and overwhelmed, which is even yesterday I felt that way. In fact, you can ask my team. I was like super overwhelmed. But we got things in place. I got structure around and I got people helping with a lot of pieces that I'm struggling with. And now I'm back to the spot where I'm like in this creation, fun, so exciting. So anyway, thanks to you guys for listening. I'm your biggest fan. I'm cheering for you, I'm praying for you. I'm working my butt off to make things easier and more... to give you the ability to have more success. So, hopefully I'm able to do that and hopefully you guys are listening, paying attention you're doing the things you're learning. So, grateful for you all, thanks for listening. And now it's time to get back to work. Let's go and change the world. All right, talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. 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---Transcript---

Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers podcast. And I'm not going to lie, I'm pinching myself right now. I cannot believe that this is my life. Okay, so I want to talk about why you guys have to master these skill sets. And I know you guys, I'm preaching the choir, you're the ones listening to the podcast. You're reading the books, you're doing the challenges, you're going to the adventure. You're in it, right? Which is awesome. But I want to just restate why this is so important. After you have the skill set, you can do so many cool things with it. And it is the most exciting thing in the world. So, it's 8:20 at night, I just got done at the office doing a webinar for Operation Underground Railroad, where we raise a bunch of money for human trafficking. And helped promote my favorite charity, right? Which is a cool thing, like philanthropy. I can never say that word, philanthropic or philanthropy.

You guys know what I'm talking about, helping charities. Which isn't like so cool. But then also at the same time right now I was just boxing with Steven Larson, and I was like, "It's crazy what we're going to do right now." And yes I have ADD, don't do what I'm doing. Focus on one project. But I've got a big team of people now. And right now I'm currently actively working on a whole bunch of books. For example, Dan Kennedy and I are co-writing a book right now, so I'm working on that. I'm also still in the process writing my big next book, which is Secrets of Success that I'm so excited for. But on top of that, I'm also republishing a whole bunch of old Napoleon Hill thing to new books. I've got five or six other high ticket books in production. We're launching a huge supplement company, actually three supplement companies.

I shouldn't be telling you this. We got our coaching programs Inner Circle, My Category Kings, Clickfunnels 2.0 is coming out, and my certification program. All these things, it's just crazy and it's just the same skill set done over and over and over and over and over again, which is all of these things you've been talking about. Right? Learning how to give presentations, building a following. And when you have these skill sets, you can apply it towards anything you want, right? Apply it towards your mission, apply it towards somebody else's mission. Apply it towards a book you want to write, or apply it towards a book you want to write with somebody else. Apply it towards somebody else's book that you happen to like. Oh, it's just, it's so cool and so exciting. And it's crazy that this is what we could do with our lives.

So I wanted to box that in the moment as I'm feeling this excitement. I literally was just boxing this to Steven Larson, and then now I'm like, "God! This is so cool. I want to share with everybody." And so it's worth mastering these skill sets. At first it's frustrating, it can painful and you got to learn a lot, you got to grow a lot, and you got to do all these things. But then you can use it for so much good and so much fun. You want to publish a new book, go and do it. I'm trying to bring back from the dead all these Napoleon Hill works and Charles Haanel, and Orison Swett Marden, and Samuel Smiles and all these people that I love and I respect. Who are the most amazing work in the world that it's forgotten off this planet. And because I have this skill set and I love it, I'm able to now go and bring it back from the dead.

And because I understand all the stuff you guys are learning right now, so I don't know, I'm just excited. This is going to be a short podcast because it's nothing more than I'm just excited. But I'm hopefully casting a vision for you guys in the future. Okay, I need to learn these things because I got all sorts of stuff I want to do with my life. I have charities I care about, I have missions I want to do. I have whatever, like all the... There's so many cool things.

It's funny my very first home study course I ever created was on public domain, very first one. And now almost 20 years later, I'm obsessed with public domain. I'm buying all these books and I want to show it to you guys, because I think there's such a valuable thing. So many guys can be finding these works in your markets of people who have passed on and bringing their messages and their stories back from the dead, and helping extend their legacy, which is such a cool thing too.

So, I don't know, you guys want me to do a trading on that specifically on the public domain and how to profit from it, and have fun with it, and use it for all sorts of things. From lead magnets, to backend, to front-ends to... Oh, anyway, sorry. I digress. I'm excited. And now I just got to the high school, I'm running in to go grab my kids who are wrestling practice. Well, one of my kids is at wrestling practice, and tomorrow morning I have my wrestling practice and I'm preparing for my tournament. Anyway, I'm excited. I'm happy. Hopefully you guys are as well. I know that there's ups and downs. Everyone goes through different parts of it. But I think sometimes hearing the excitement can be good. There's other times in my life where I'm stressed out and overwhelmed, which is even yesterday I felt that way.

In fact, you can ask my team. I was like super overwhelmed. But we got things in place. I got structure around and I got people helping with a lot of pieces that I'm struggling with. And now I'm back to the spot where I'm like in this creation, fun, so exciting. So anyway, thanks to you guys for listening. I'm your biggest fan. I'm cheering for you, I'm praying for you. I'm working my butt off to make things easier and more... to give you the ability to have more success. So, hopefully I'm able to do that and hopefully you guys are listening, paying attention you're doing the things you're learning. So, grateful for you all, thanks for listening. And now it's time to get back to work. Let's go and change the world. All right, talk to you soon.

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]]> 416 no Napoleon Hill's Framework, That He Uses Every Time... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/napoleon-hills-framework-that-he-uses-every-time Did you notice this when you were reading any of Napoleon Hill's works? You should be modeling this for your business too. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Napoleon Hill's Framework, That He Uses Every Time... full 509 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Did you notice this when you were reading any of Napoleon Hill's works? You should be modeling this for your business too. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is... Did you notice this when you were reading any of Napoleon Hill's works? You should be modeling this for your business too. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Did you notice this when you were reading any of Napoleon Hill's works? You should be modeling this for your business too.

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]]> 729 no My Day With Dan Kennedy... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-day-with-dan-kennedy Some of my biggest insights after spending a day at Dan Kennedy's house. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Russell Brunson recounts his experience spending a day with Dan Kennedy, sharing insights and takeaways. Initially, he reflects on his admiration for Kennedy and the opportunity he missed in the past to meet him. Despite a scheduling mishap, he finally visits Kennedy's house for a consult day. Brunson describes the setting, Kennedy's basement office filled with books, and their discussions on various business strategies. Kennedy emphasizes the importance of both current and future bank deposits in business, focusing on building long-term relationships with customers. They delve into marketing tactics like text-based campaigns, leveraging industry-specific newsletters for book promotions, and radio advertising strategies. Kennedy's unique approach to disconnecting from the internet to maintain focus and productivity also stands out to Brunson. Additionally, they discuss Herbalife's successful marketing techniques, including the use of promotional pins and hosting opportunity meetings as infomercials. Brunson highlights potential applications of these strategies in network marketing or affiliate programs. Overall, the day with Kennedy provides valuable insights into business tactics, marketing strategies, and the importance of balance in work habits. Brunson encourages listeners to subscribe to the No B.S. Newsletter for further insights from him and Kennedy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000 My Day With Dan Kennedy... full 508 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Some of my biggest insights after spending a day at Dan Kennedy's house. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing... Some of my biggest insights after spending a day at Dan Kennedy's house. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Russell Brunson recounts his experience spending a day with Dan Kennedy, sharing insights and takeaways. Initially, he reflects on his admiration for Kennedy and the opportunity he missed in the past to meet him. Despite a scheduling mishap, he finally visits Kennedy's house for a consult day. Brunson describes the setting, Kennedy's basement office filled with books, and their discussions on various business strategies. Kennedy emphasizes the importance of both current and future bank deposits in business, focusing on building long-term relationships with customers. They delve into marketing tactics like text-based campaigns, leveraging industry-specific newsletters for book promotions, and radio advertising strategies. Kennedy's unique approach to disconnecting from the internet to maintain focus and productivity also stands out to Brunson. Additionally, they discuss Herbalife's successful marketing techniques, including the use of promotional pins and hosting opportunity meetings as infomercials. Brunson highlights potential applications of these strategies in network marketing or affiliate programs. Overall, the day with Kennedy provides valuable insights into business tactics, marketing strategies, and the importance of balance in work habits. Brunson encourages listeners to subscribe to the No B.S. Newsletter for further insights from him and Kennedy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Some of my biggest insights after spending a day at Dan Kennedy's house.

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Russell Brunson recounts his experience spending a day with Dan Kennedy, sharing insights and takeaways. Initially, he reflects on his admiration for Kennedy and the opportunity he missed in the past to meet him. Despite a scheduling mishap, he finally visits Kennedy's house for a consult day. Brunson describes the setting, Kennedy's basement office filled with books, and their discussions on various business strategies.


Kennedy emphasizes the importance of both current and future bank deposits in business, focusing on building long-term relationships with customers. They delve into marketing tactics like text-based campaigns, leveraging industry-specific newsletters for book promotions, and radio advertising strategies. Kennedy's unique approach to disconnecting from the internet to maintain focus and productivity also stands out to Brunson.


Additionally, they discuss Herbalife's successful marketing techniques, including the use of promotional pins and hosting opportunity meetings as infomercials. Brunson highlights potential applications of these strategies in network marketing or affiliate programs.


Overall, the day with Kennedy provides valuable insights into business tactics, marketing strategies, and the importance of balance in work habits. Brunson encourages listeners to subscribe to the No B.S. Newsletter for further insights from him and Kennedy.

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]]> 1478 no Condensed Philosophy On Enemies, From Napoleon Hill https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/condensed-philosophy-on-enemies-from-napoleon-hill For those who have haters, enemies or competitors that are driving you nuts, listen to this sage advice from Napoleon Hill. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers podcast. I am publishing this episode from inside the Napoleon Hill room in my makeshift library. And I want to share with you some thoughts on competitors, on enemies, on people that are frustrating you in your life directly from Napoleon Hill back in 1922. All right. So I'm working right now in the Napoleon Hill library on actually the No BS May newsletter, which is fun. Well you guys don't know, I spend multiple days each month writing out the No BS newsletter, Behind the Scenes newsletter, a bunch of other things. So if you want to hear the thoughts inside of my head, without waiting for my next books to come out, make sure you are a subscriber. You can go get subscribed to nobsletter.com, which is where we have our print newsletter. It comes out twice a month for marketers and it's awesome. But anyway, in these issues, most of the issues I have some kind of something from Napoleon Hill or someone who I respect, personal involvement things from back in the day. And today I was going through a bunch of my old Napoleon Hill magazines and this one was from 1922. And at the very beginning, God, there's so much gold here. Some of these things are in the public domain, I'll be republishing. But yeah, this is from the January, 1922 issue. And at the beginning he has the thing says, the editors thought inspiring epigrams and I actually didn't know what epigrams meant so I had to look up that word. It means like statements. So these are almost like memes or I don't know, quotes or whatever you want to call them. But they're things that he said he had gathered as he studies the motives, which actuated men and their dealings with another. And there's five or six pages of these and they're all these little cool quotes. And so a bunch of them I'm actually republishing in this month's newsletter, but there were five or six that were in a row all about enemies. And it's actually interesting because those who don't know Napoleon Hill's story, he had a business partner when he launched his first magazine called Hills Golden Rule. And then eventually his business partner screwed him over. I don't know the whole story behind it, but in fact, I have the issue. It was March, 1921 when it shifted from Hills Golden Rule magazine to the Golden Rule. And basically his partner, I believe, kicked him out. And so he did what any good entrepreneur would do. And he started a new one, so he started his own magazine a year later called the Napoleon Hill magazine. And it's interesting as you read his writings, he doesn't say exactly it at all times, but he's very much blatantly like, "Hey, I got screwed over here." Not so much that, but he's talking about the circumstances and what he's learned throughout it. But it was interesting because in this issue, he's talking about enemies. And so I don't know if he's specifically talking about the enemy who was his partner in the Hills Golden Rule magazine or something different, but he has five or six bullet points. And again, I don't know if he wrote these, if they're quotes he found from other people, a lot of them do sound like him the way he talks. The more I read him, the more I understand him and I feel like these are his thoughts. So in fact he says on here, "This is the page of condensed philosophies." And so these are condensed philosophies and there's five or six of them here specifically about your enemies. I thought were fascinating, so I wanted to share just a couple of those here with you. So the first one says, do not try to destroy your enemies. Only combat them to the point of holding them in check so that they cannot destroy you. And from that point on, thank God that you have enemies because they keep you alert, active on the job and at work on the plan to keep them from getting the better of you. This develops strength and power in you that you would've never otherwise known. And as I read that, I was like, "Oh, this is so cool." Right now, I'm sure you guys see, ClickFunnels, we're the first funnel builder. And now there's a whole bunch of knock offs and competitors and things. And part of me gets annoyed and angry about it. But then, after reading this, I'm like, "You know what? The reason why we built 2.0, the reason why we're doing what we're doing, the reason why we are about to come in and just rock the entire marketplace is because of these enemies." Because these people who are fighting against us. And so it keeps you sharp, keeps you alert. Wrestling the same thing, the better the opponents I had, the better I became because I to get good enough to beat those people. Having really easy matches didn't help me ever. It was the competition that made me great. That was really cool. Here's another one. It says, "If our enemies are constantly watching us, we are careful not to let them find a weak spot in our fortifications. And this eternal watch list develops qualities in us, which we would otherwise permit to lie dormant." Again, they're watching you, they're trying to figure things out. Don't give them your weak spots, fortify yourself against these weak spots. And again, it's going to be a benefit to you. Another one he said, "If I had no enemies, it would be necessary for me to go out and to create some because I need them to keep me stimulated to top notch speed and determine to do nothing except that which will pass inspection under the closest sort of scrutiny." Saying, you need enemies. If you don't have them, go out and create some so that you have this new pressure that's pushing you to become more, to do more, to create more. He says, "You will be fortunate when you adopt this philosophy concerning the advantages in having an enemy or two. And you may rest assured that you are developing power and bigness and depth of character. When you can smile, as you watch your enemies, trying to undermine you, knowing that your house is built upon a rock that cannot be disturbed by the destroyer." Oh, he is so good. I love Napoleon Hill. Here's another one. Never give your enemies the satisfaction of involving you in a foolish argument. Ooh, this is for all of us who get in debates on Facebook with our enemies. He says, "Never give your enemies the satisfaction of involving you in a foolish argument. You might as well know in the beginning that neither logic nor right will convince an enemy. Therefore, you will be unwise and waste much valuable time and energy if you stop to argue with a man who's looking only for arguments and not for facts." Ooh, this is so good. And the last one I'll share says, "If you have enemies who are trying to get between you and the star of your definite aim in life, you should pay no attention to the enemies, but increase the luster of that star so it will shine over and above those who would shut it off." Oh, so good. So good. Anyway, Napoleon Hill from the grave. Thank you. He's amazing. And again, one of my favorite authors. And you're going to hear more Napoleon Hill stuff from me, there's some cool things happening, cool projects I'm working on that I'm excited to share with you guys. So I hope you enjoy this episode. If you did, and you have enemies, there's some good advice for you. Don't let the haters hold you back. Don't argue with them. And if you don't have enemies yet, go create some because it will make you sharp. It'll make you better. The competition will make you better at your craft. So hope that helps. Thanks you guys so much for listening and we'll see you on the next episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Condensed Philosophy On Enemies, From Napoleon Hill full 507 Russell Brunson | YAP Media For those who have haters, enemies or competitors that are driving you nuts, listen to this sage advice from Napoleon Hill. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This... For those who have haters, enemies or competitors that are driving you nuts, listen to this sage advice from Napoleon Hill. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers podcast. I am publishing this episode from inside the Napoleon Hill room in my makeshift library. And I want to share with you some thoughts on competitors, on enemies, on people that are frustrating you in your life directly from Napoleon Hill back in 1922. All right. So I'm working right now in the Napoleon Hill library on actually the No BS May newsletter, which is fun. Well you guys don't know, I spend multiple days each month writing out the No BS newsletter, Behind the Scenes newsletter, a bunch of other things. So if you want to hear the thoughts inside of my head, without waiting for my next books to come out, make sure you are a subscriber. You can go get subscribed to nobsletter.com, which is where we have our print newsletter. It comes out twice a month for marketers and it's awesome. But anyway, in these issues, most of the issues I have some kind of something from Napoleon Hill or someone who I respect, personal involvement things from back in the day. And today I was going through a bunch of my old Napoleon Hill magazines and this one was from 1922. And at the very beginning, God, there's so much gold here. Some of these things are in the public domain, I'll be republishing. But yeah, this is from the January, 1922 issue. And at the beginning he has the thing says, the editors thought inspiring epigrams and I actually didn't know what epigrams meant so I had to look up that word. It means like statements. So these are almost like memes or I don't know, quotes or whatever you want to call them. But they're things that he said he had gathered as he studies the motives, which actuated men and their dealings with another. And there's five or six pages of these and they're all these little cool quotes. And so a bunch of them I'm actually republishing in this month's newsletter, but there were five or six that were in a row all about enemies. And it's actually interesting because those who don't know Napoleon Hill's story, he had a business partner when he launched his first magazine called Hills Golden Rule. And then eventually his business partner screwed him over. I don't know the whole story behind it, but in fact, I have the issue. It was March, 1921 when it shifted from Hills Golden Rule magazine to the Golden Rule. And basically his partner, I believe, kicked him out. And so he did what any good entrepreneur would do. And he started a new one, so he started his own magazine a year later called the Napoleon Hill magazine. And it's interesting as you read his writings, he doesn't say exactly it at all times, but he's very much blatantly like, "Hey, I got screwed over here." Not so much that, but he's talking about the circumstances and what he's learned throughout it. But it was interesting because in this issue, he's talking about enemies. And so I don't know if he's specifically talking about the enemy who was his partner in the Hills Golden Rule magazine or something different, but he has five or six bullet points. And again, I don't know if he wrote these, if they're quotes he found from other people, a lot of them do sound like him the way he talks. The more I read him, the more I understand him and I feel like these are his thoughts. So in fact he says on here, "This is the page of condensed philosophies." And so these are condensed philosophies and there's five or six of them here specifically about your enemies. I thought were fascinating, so I wanted to share just a couple of those here with you. So the first one says, do not try to destroy your enemies. Only combat them to the point of holding them in check so that they cannot destroy you. And from that point on, thank God that you have enemies because they keep you alert, active on the job and at work on the plan to keep them from getting the better of you. This develops strength and power in you that you would've never otherwise known. And as I read that, I was like, "Oh, this is so cool." Right now, I'm sure you guys see, ClickFunnels, we're the first funnel builder. And now there's a whole bunch of knock offs and competitors and things. And part of me gets annoyed and angry about it. But then, after reading this, I'm like, "You know what? The reason why we built 2.0, the reason why we're doing what we're doing, the reason why we are about to come in and just rock the entire marketplace is because of these enemies." Because these people who are fighting against us. And so it keeps you sharp, keeps you alert. Wrestling the same thing, the better the opponents I had, the better I became because I to get good enough to beat those people. Having really easy matches didn't help me ever. It was the competition that made me great. That was really cool. Here's another one. It says, "If our enemies are constantly watching us, we are careful not to let them find a weak spot in our fortifications. And this eternal watch list develops qualities in us, which we would otherwise permit to lie dormant." Again, they're watching you, they're trying to figure things out. Don't give them your weak spots, fortify yourself against these weak spots. And again, it's going to be a benefit to you. Another one he said, "If I had no enemies, it would be necessary for me to go out and to create some because I need them to keep me stimulated to top notch speed and determine to do nothing except that which will pass inspection under the closest sort of scrutiny." Saying, you need enemies. If you don't have them, go out and create some so that you have this new pressure that's pushing you to become more, to do more, to create more. He says, "You will be fortunate when you adopt this philosophy concerning the advantages in having an enemy or two. And you may rest assured that you are developing power and bigness and depth of character. When you can smile, as you watch your enemies, trying to undermine you, knowing that your house is built upon a rock that cannot be disturbed by the destroyer." Oh, he is so good. I love Napoleon Hill. Here's another one. Never give your enemies the satisfaction of involving you in a foolish argument. Ooh, this is for all of us who get in debates on Facebook with our enemies. He says, "Never give your enemies the satisfaction of involving you in a foolish argument. You might as well know in the beginning that neither logic nor right will convince an enemy. Therefore, you will be unwise and waste much valuable time and energy if you stop to argue with a man who's looking only for arguments and not for facts." Ooh, this is so good. And the last one I'll share says, "If you have enemies who are trying to get between you and the star of your definite aim in life, you should pay no attention to the enemies, but increase the luster of that star so it will shine over and above those who would shut it off." Oh, so good. So good. Anyway, Napoleon Hill from the grave. Thank you. He's amazing. And again, one of my favorite authors. And you're going to hear more Napoleon Hill stuff from me, there's some cool things happening, cool projects I'm working on that I'm excited to share with you guys. So I hope you enjoy this episode. If you did, and you have enemies, there's some good advice for you. Don't let the haters hold you back. Don't argue with them. And if you don't have enemies yet, go create some because it will make you sharp. It'll make you better. The competition will make you better at your craft. So hope that helps. Thanks you guys so much for listening and we'll see you on the next episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices For those who have haters, enemies or competitors that are driving you nuts, listen to this sage advice from Napoleon Hill.

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---Transcript---

What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers podcast. I am publishing this episode from inside the Napoleon Hill room in my makeshift library. And I want to share with you some thoughts on competitors, on enemies, on people that are frustrating you in your life directly from Napoleon Hill back in 1922. All right. So I'm working right now in the Napoleon Hill library on actually the No BS May newsletter, which is fun. Well you guys don't know, I spend multiple days each month writing out the No BS newsletter, Behind the Scenes newsletter, a bunch of other things. So if you want to hear the thoughts inside of my head, without waiting for my next books to come out, make sure you are a subscriber. You can go get subscribed to nobsletter.com, which is where we have our print newsletter.

It comes out twice a month for marketers and it's awesome. But anyway, in these issues, most of the issues I have some kind of something from Napoleon Hill or someone who I respect, personal involvement things from back in the day. And today I was going through a bunch of my old Napoleon Hill magazines and this one was from 1922. And at the very beginning, God, there's so much gold here. Some of these things are in the public domain, I'll be republishing. But yeah, this is from the January, 1922 issue. And at the beginning he has the thing says, the editors thought inspiring epigrams and I actually didn't know what epigrams meant so I had to look up that word. It means like statements. So these are almost like memes or I don't know, quotes or whatever you want to call them.

But they're things that he said he had gathered as he studies the motives, which actuated men and their dealings with another. And there's five or six pages of these and they're all these little cool quotes. And so a bunch of them I'm actually republishing in this month's newsletter, but there were five or six that were in a row all about enemies. And it's actually interesting because those who don't know Napoleon Hill's story, he had a business partner when he launched his first magazine called Hills Golden Rule. And then eventually his business partner screwed him over. I don't know the whole story behind it, but in fact, I have the issue. It was March, 1921 when it shifted from Hills Golden Rule magazine to the Golden Rule. And basically his partner, I believe, kicked him out. And so he did what any good entrepreneur would do.

And he started a new one, so he started his own magazine a year later called the Napoleon Hill magazine. And it's interesting as you read his writings, he doesn't say exactly it at all times, but he's very much blatantly like, "Hey, I got screwed over here." Not so much that, but he's talking about the circumstances and what he's learned throughout it. But it was interesting because in this issue, he's talking about enemies. And so I don't know if he's specifically talking about the enemy who was his partner in the Hills Golden Rule magazine or something different, but he has five or six bullet points.

And again, I don't know if he wrote these, if they're quotes he found from other people, a lot of them do sound like him the way he talks. The more I read him, the more I understand him and I feel like these are his thoughts. So in fact he says on here, "This is the page of condensed philosophies." And so these are condensed philosophies and there's five or six of them here specifically about your enemies. I thought were fascinating, so I wanted to share just a couple of those here with you. So the first one says, do not try to destroy your enemies. Only combat them to the point of holding them in check so that they cannot destroy you. And from that point on, thank God that you have enemies because they keep you alert, active on the job and at work on the plan to keep them from getting the better of you. This develops strength and power in you that you would've never otherwise known.

And as I read that, I was like, "Oh, this is so cool." Right now, I'm sure you guys see, ClickFunnels, we're the first funnel builder. And now there's a whole bunch of knock offs and competitors and things. And part of me gets annoyed and angry about it. But then, after reading this, I'm like, "You know what? The reason why we built 2.0, the reason why we're doing what we're doing, the reason why we are about to come in and just rock the entire marketplace is because of these enemies." Because these people who are fighting against us. And so it keeps you sharp, keeps you alert. Wrestling the same thing, the better the opponents I had, the better I became because I to get good enough to beat those people. Having really easy matches didn't help me ever.

It was the competition that made me great. That was really cool. Here's another one. It says, "If our enemies are constantly watching us, we are careful not to let them find a weak spot in our fortifications. And this eternal watch list develops qualities in us, which we would otherwise permit to lie dormant." Again, they're watching you, they're trying to figure things out. Don't give them your weak spots, fortify yourself against these weak spots. And again, it's going to be a benefit to you. Another one he said, "If I had no enemies, it would be necessary for me to go out and to create some because I need them to keep me stimulated to top notch speed and determine to do nothing except that which will pass inspection under the closest sort of scrutiny." Saying, you need enemies.

If you don't have them, go out and create some so that you have this new pressure that's pushing you to become more, to do more, to create more. He says, "You will be fortunate when you adopt this philosophy concerning the advantages in having an enemy or two. And you may rest assured that you are developing power and bigness and depth of character. When you can smile, as you watch your enemies, trying to undermine you, knowing that your house is built upon a rock that cannot be disturbed by the destroyer."

Oh, he is so good. I love Napoleon Hill. Here's another one. Never give your enemies the satisfaction of involving you in a foolish argument. Ooh, this is for all of us who get in debates on Facebook with our enemies. He says, "Never give your enemies the satisfaction of involving you in a foolish argument. You might as well know in the beginning that neither logic nor right will convince an enemy. Therefore, you will be unwise and waste much valuable time and energy if you stop to argue with a man who's looking only for arguments and not for facts."

Ooh, this is so good. And the last one I'll share says, "If you have enemies who are trying to get between you and the star of your definite aim in life, you should pay no attention to the enemies, but increase the luster of that star so it will shine over and above those who would shut it off." Oh, so good. So good. Anyway, Napoleon Hill from the grave. Thank you. He's amazing. And again, one of my favorite authors. And you're going to hear more Napoleon Hill stuff from me, there's some cool things happening, cool projects I'm working on that I'm excited to share with you guys. So I hope you enjoy this episode. If you did, and you have enemies, there's some good advice for you. Don't let the haters hold you back. Don't argue with them. And if you don't have enemies yet, go create some because it will make you sharp. It'll make you better. The competition will make you better at your craft. So hope that helps. Thanks you guys so much for listening and we'll see you on the next episode.

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]]> 537 no RECORD EVERYTHING... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/record-everything A lesson that I learned from John Childers almost 20 years ago that is changing my life today. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Russell Brunson makes a compelling case for why you should record everything you say. He shares his experiences of going through archives, finding gems, and repurposing them for various purposes. From purchasing Dan Kennedy's company to diving into the public domain, Russell emphasizes the value of recording conversations, presentations, and even personal experiences. He reminisces about his early days in internet marketing and recalls advice from John Childers about recording everything. Russell's journey of recording conversations with mentors, creating courses, and conducting interviews highlights the wealth of content that can be accumulated over time. Russell explains his process of creating "one-pagers" from his archived content, which he can use as bonuses, lead magnets, or incentives for various offers. He stresses the importance of documenting experiences, conversations, and ideas, as they can be repurposed in the future for different purposes. Through anecdotes and examples, Russell encourages listeners to start recording everything they do, whether it's audio, video, or written content. He believes that these recordings can become valuable assets that can be used creatively to enhance offers, products, or promotions. In closing, Russell announces Funnel Hacking Live and invites listeners to join the event. He expresses his excitement for the upcoming event and encourages people to check out the website for tickets and updates. Overall, Russell Brunson's message underscores the power of recording and repurposing content to maximize its value over time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000 RECORD EVERYTHING... full 506 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A lesson that I learned from John Childers almost 20 years ago that is changing my life today. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome... A lesson that I learned from John Childers almost 20 years ago that is changing my life today. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Russell Brunson makes a compelling case for why you should record everything you say. He shares his experiences of going through archives, finding gems, and repurposing them for various purposes. From purchasing Dan Kennedy's company to diving into the public domain, Russell emphasizes the value of recording conversations, presentations, and even personal experiences. He reminisces about his early days in internet marketing and recalls advice from John Childers about recording everything. Russell's journey of recording conversations with mentors, creating courses, and conducting interviews highlights the wealth of content that can be accumulated over time. Russell explains his process of creating "one-pagers" from his archived content, which he can use as bonuses, lead magnets, or incentives for various offers. He stresses the importance of documenting experiences, conversations, and ideas, as they can be repurposed in the future for different purposes. Through anecdotes and examples, Russell encourages listeners to start recording everything they do, whether it's audio, video, or written content. He believes that these recordings can become valuable assets that can be used creatively to enhance offers, products, or promotions. In closing, Russell announces Funnel Hacking Live and invites listeners to join the event. He expresses his excitement for the upcoming event and encourages people to check out the website for tickets and updates. Overall, Russell Brunson's message underscores the power of recording and repurposing content to maximize its value over time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A lesson that I learned from John Childers almost 20 years ago that is changing my life today.

Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing

Russell Brunson makes a compelling case for why you should record everything you say. He shares his experiences of going through archives, finding gems, and repurposing them for various purposes. From purchasing Dan Kennedy's company to diving into the public domain, Russell emphasizes the value of recording conversations, presentations, and even personal experiences.


He reminisces about his early days in internet marketing and recalls advice from John Childers about recording everything. Russell's journey of recording conversations with mentors, creating courses, and conducting interviews highlights the wealth of content that can be accumulated over time.


Russell explains his process of creating "one-pagers" from his archived content, which he can use as bonuses, lead magnets, or incentives for various offers. He stresses the importance of documenting experiences, conversations, and ideas, as they can be repurposed in the future for different purposes.


Through anecdotes and examples, Russell encourages listeners to start recording everything they do, whether it's audio, video, or written content. He believes that these recordings can become valuable assets that can be used creatively to enhance offers, products, or promotions.


In closing, Russell announces Funnel Hacking Live and invites listeners to join the event. He expresses his excitement for the upcoming event and encourages people to check out the website for tickets and updates.


Overall, Russell Brunson's message underscores the power of recording and repurposing content to maximize its value over time.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 1002 no Not Enough Time To Build Your Business? Do This Now! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/not-enough-time-to-build-your-business-do-this-now If you're struggling to find time amongst all the things to get your business out there, this little hack/shortcut should help get you to the finish line fast. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing That was quite the podcast episode! Russell really dove deep into the process of building a business while juggling various other responsibilities. He emphasized the importance of momentum over time management, suggesting that getting started and putting your work out there imperfectly is key to progress. Russell shared his own journey of creating products and the initial failures he experienced. He stressed the need to embrace imperfection and to start selling or publishing before things are perfect, as waiting for perfection can hinder progress. His advice to start talking about your project and making it public, even if it's scary, resonated with the idea of building momentum. By consistently putting your work out there and iterating based on feedback, you can accelerate your progress and eventually find success. It sounds like Russell's friend, who's struggling to find time for his passion project, could benefit from this perspective. Encouraging him to start sharing his work and seeking feedback could help him gain momentum and move forward with his business goals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Not Enough Time To Build Your Business? Do This Now! full 505 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you're struggling to find time amongst all the things to get your business out there, this little hack/shortcut should help get you to the finish line fast. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ... If you're struggling to find time amongst all the things to get your business out there, this little hack/shortcut should help get you to the finish line fast. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing That was quite the podcast episode! Russell really dove deep into the process of building a business while juggling various other responsibilities. He emphasized the importance of momentum over time management, suggesting that getting started and putting your work out there imperfectly is key to progress. Russell shared his own journey of creating products and the initial failures he experienced. He stressed the need to embrace imperfection and to start selling or publishing before things are perfect, as waiting for perfection can hinder progress. His advice to start talking about your project and making it public, even if it's scary, resonated with the idea of building momentum. By consistently putting your work out there and iterating based on feedback, you can accelerate your progress and eventually find success. It sounds like Russell's friend, who's struggling to find time for his passion project, could benefit from this perspective. Encouraging him to start sharing his work and seeking feedback could help him gain momentum and move forward with his business goals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you're struggling to find time amongst all the things to get your business out there, this little hack/shortcut should help get you to the finish line fast.

Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing

That was quite the podcast episode! Russell really dove deep into the process of building a business while juggling various other responsibilities. He emphasized the importance of momentum over time management, suggesting that getting started and putting your work out there imperfectly is key to progress.


Russell shared his own journey of creating products and the initial failures he experienced. He stressed the need to embrace imperfection and to start selling or publishing before things are perfect, as waiting for perfection can hinder progress.


His advice to start talking about your project and making it public, even if it's scary, resonated with the idea of building momentum. By consistently putting your work out there and iterating based on feedback, you can accelerate your progress and eventually find success.


It sounds like Russell's friend, who's struggling to find time for his passion project, could benefit from this perspective. Encouraging him to start sharing his work and seeking feedback could help him gain momentum and move forward with his business goals.

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]]> 1245 no Writing Retreat... AKA: The New HACK-A-THON https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/writing-retreat-aka-the-new-hack-a-thon As I'm preparing for our writers retreat, I want to explain the value, the purpose, and why you should be doing these in your business as well. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Russell Brunson discusses the concept of a writing retreat he's excited about on his Marketing Seekers podcast. He draws inspiration from past experiences, like the hackathons he used to do with his team when ClickFunnels was launched. These intensive sessions of focused work and collaboration led to the birth of ClickFunnels. Now, as they prepare for ClickFunnels 2.0, Brunson wants to replicate that level of focus and creativity. He shares insights into the process he's adopting, inspired by the Harmon Brothers' approach. They book a two-day writing retreat for every viral video project they undertake. During these retreats, three different writers work on three different scripts, each presenting their ideas to the team. The scripts are refined through iterative feedback sessions until they reach a final version. Brunson emphasizes the importance of the script in marketing and sales, highlighting that it's often more critical than the product or offer itself. He encourages listeners to consider implementing similar focused retreats in their businesses to elevate their marketing efforts from "good to great." He also discusses the significance of defining the problem your business solves and mentions seeking out market data to support arguments and create compelling core stories. Overall, Brunson's podcast episode offers practical advice and insights into improving marketing strategies through focused collaborative efforts and data-driven storytelling. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Writing Retreat... AKA: The New HACK-A-THON full 504 Russell Brunson | YAP Media As I'm preparing for our writers retreat, I want to explain the value, the purpose, and why you should be doing these in your business as well. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What... As I'm preparing for our writers retreat, I want to explain the value, the purpose, and why you should be doing these in your business as well. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Russell Brunson discusses the concept of a writing retreat he's excited about on his Marketing Seekers podcast. He draws inspiration from past experiences, like the hackathons he used to do with his team when ClickFunnels was launched. These intensive sessions of focused work and collaboration led to the birth of ClickFunnels. Now, as they prepare for ClickFunnels 2.0, Brunson wants to replicate that level of focus and creativity. He shares insights into the process he's adopting, inspired by the Harmon Brothers' approach. They book a two-day writing retreat for every viral video project they undertake. During these retreats, three different writers work on three different scripts, each presenting their ideas to the team. The scripts are refined through iterative feedback sessions until they reach a final version. Brunson emphasizes the importance of the script in marketing and sales, highlighting that it's often more critical than the product or offer itself. He encourages listeners to consider implementing similar focused retreats in their businesses to elevate their marketing efforts from "good to great." He also discusses the significance of defining the problem your business solves and mentions seeking out market data to support arguments and create compelling core stories. Overall, Brunson's podcast episode offers practical advice and insights into improving marketing strategies through focused collaborative efforts and data-driven storytelling. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As I'm preparing for our writers retreat, I want to explain the value, the purpose, and why you should be doing these in your business as well.

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Russell Brunson discusses the concept of a writing retreat he's excited about on his Marketing Seekers podcast. He draws inspiration from past experiences, like the hackathons he used to do with his team when ClickFunnels was launched. These intensive sessions of focused work and collaboration led to the birth of ClickFunnels. Now, as they prepare for ClickFunnels 2.0, Brunson wants to replicate that level of focus and creativity.


He shares insights into the process he's adopting, inspired by the Harmon Brothers' approach. They book a two-day writing retreat for every viral video project they undertake. During these retreats, three different writers work on three different scripts, each presenting their ideas to the team. The scripts are refined through iterative feedback sessions until they reach a final version.


Brunson emphasizes the importance of the script in marketing and sales, highlighting that it's often more critical than the product or offer itself. He encourages listeners to consider implementing similar focused retreats in their businesses to elevate their marketing efforts from "good to great." He also discusses the significance of defining the problem your business solves and mentions seeking out market data to support arguments and create compelling core stories.


Overall, Brunson's podcast episode offers practical advice and insights into improving marketing strategies through focused collaborative efforts and data-driven storytelling.

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]]> 1326 no Personality Tests For Entrepreneurs https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/personality-tests-for-entrepreneurs How To Use Personality Profiles To Hire Rockstars And Build Teams Inside Of Your Company! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Personality Tests For Entrepreneurs full 503 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How To Use Personality Profiles To Hire Rockstars And Build Teams Inside Of Your Company! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, good morning, everybody, this is... How To Use Personality Profiles To Hire Rockstars And Build Teams Inside Of Your Company! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How To Use Personality Profiles To Hire Rockstars And Build Teams Inside Of Your Company!

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]]> 2244 no One HUGE Key To Info-Product Success https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/one-huge-key-to-info-product-success A cool little nugget I learned from Dan Kennedy that I think you're going to love! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson discusses the keys to selling information products, inspired by insights from Dan Kennedy. He emphasizes the importance of differentiation in a crowded market and proposes a co-authoring concept for a book titled "Marketing Secrets." This book would allow collaborators to leverage Brunson's frameworks and credibility in their specific niches, potentially expanding the reach of his ideas. Brunson seeks feedback on this idea, inviting interested parties to reach out via social media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000 One HUGE Key To Info-Product Success full 502 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A cool little nugget I learned from Dan Kennedy that I think you're going to love! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back... A cool little nugget I learned from Dan Kennedy that I think you're going to love! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson discusses the keys to selling information products, inspired by insights from Dan Kennedy. He emphasizes the importance of differentiation in a crowded market and proposes a co-authoring concept for a book titled "Marketing Secrets." This book would allow collaborators to leverage Brunson's frameworks and credibility in their specific niches, potentially expanding the reach of his ideas. Brunson seeks feedback on this idea, inviting interested parties to reach out via social media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A cool little nugget I learned from Dan Kennedy that I think you're going to love!

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---Transcript---

Russell Brunson discusses the keys to selling information products, inspired by insights from Dan Kennedy. He emphasizes the importance of differentiation in a crowded market and proposes a co-authoring concept for a book titled "Marketing Secrets." This book would allow collaborators to leverage Brunson's frameworks and credibility in their specific niches, potentially expanding the reach of his ideas. Brunson seeks feedback on this idea, inviting interested parties to reach out via social media.

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]]> 736 no Creating Lasting Change... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/creating-lasting-change How to inspire the people you love to change without forcing them to do it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson shares insights from his recent experiences and epiphanies, focusing on the importance of values in shaping our lives and relationships, particularly in parenting. He recounts an exercise he conducted at a mastermind event, where participants identified their core values and grouped them into themes. Brunson highlights the significance of inspiring others to embrace certain values rather than imposing them forcefully, drawing from personal experiences with his children. He emphasizes the power of leading by example and creating experiences that foster the adoption of desired values. Brunson concludes with a call to action for listeners to reflect on their own values and consider how they can inspire others to embrace them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000 Creating Lasting Change... full 501 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to inspire the people you love to change without forcing them to do it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The... How to inspire the people you love to change without forcing them to do it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson shares insights from his recent experiences and epiphanies, focusing on the importance of values in shaping our lives and relationships, particularly in parenting. He recounts an exercise he conducted at a mastermind event, where participants identified their core values and grouped them into themes. Brunson highlights the significance of inspiring others to embrace certain values rather than imposing them forcefully, drawing from personal experiences with his children. He emphasizes the power of leading by example and creating experiences that foster the adoption of desired values. Brunson concludes with a call to action for listeners to reflect on their own values and consider how they can inspire others to embrace them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to inspire the people you love to change without forcing them to do it.

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---Transcript---

Russell Brunson shares insights from his recent experiences and epiphanies, focusing on the importance of values in shaping our lives and relationships, particularly in parenting. He recounts an exercise he conducted at a mastermind event, where participants identified their core values and grouped them into themes. Brunson highlights the significance of inspiring others to embrace certain values rather than imposing them forcefully, drawing from personal experiences with his children. He emphasizes the power of leading by example and creating experiences that foster the adoption of desired values. Brunson concludes with a call to action for listeners to reflect on their own values and consider how they can inspire others to embrace them.

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]]> 823 no The 500th Episode!!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-500th-episode Holy cow, I can't believe it's been 500 episodes! On today's episode we talk about where we came from, what we're doing here, and where we're going. I can't wait to take you on the ride with me. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Wow, 500 episodes is a huge milestone! It's fascinating to hear about your journey from the ups and downs to your current focus on personal development and building your library. Collecting those rare books sounds like an incredible adventure, and it's inspiring to see how passionate you are about sharing knowledge and helping others grow. It's also exciting to hear about your plans for NFTs and other projects associated with your library. Your dedication to serving your audience is truly admirable. Here's to the next 500 episodes and beyond! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000 The 500th Episode!!! full 500 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Holy cow, I can't believe it's been 500 episodes! On today's episode we talk about where we came from, what we're doing here, and where we're going. I can't wait to take you on the ride with me. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797... Holy cow, I can't believe it's been 500 episodes! On today's episode we talk about where we came from, what we're doing here, and where we're going. I can't wait to take you on the ride with me. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Wow, 500 episodes is a huge milestone! It's fascinating to hear about your journey from the ups and downs to your current focus on personal development and building your library. Collecting those rare books sounds like an incredible adventure, and it's inspiring to see how passionate you are about sharing knowledge and helping others grow. It's also exciting to hear about your plans for NFTs and other projects associated with your library. Your dedication to serving your audience is truly admirable. Here's to the next 500 episodes and beyond! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Holy cow, I can't believe it's been 500 episodes! On today's episode we talk about where we came from, what we're doing here, and where we're going. I can't wait to take you on the ride with me.

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Wow, 500 episodes is a huge milestone! It's fascinating to hear about your journey from the ups and downs to your current focus on personal development and building your library. Collecting those rare books sounds like an incredible adventure, and it's inspiring to see how passionate you are about sharing knowledge and helping others grow. It's also exciting to hear about your plans for NFTs and other projects associated with your library. Your dedication to serving your audience is truly admirable. Here's to the next 500 episodes and beyond!

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]]> 1028 no The Wake Of Contribution Inside Your Definite Purpose https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-wake-of-contribution-inside-your-definite-purpose Napoleon Hill said: There is one quality which one must possess to win, and that is definiteness of purpose, the knowledge of what one wants, and a burning desire to possess it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Russell Brunson's podcast transcript dives deep into the concept of definiteness of purpose, a principle he learned from Napoleon Hill. He highlights the importance of having a clear and unwavering purpose in life, emphasizing that it's not just about having a vague idea of what you want, but having a burning desire to achieve it at all costs. He shares his personal journey of writing books and how he often starts over after realizing he doesn't like the initial drafts, preferring to teach the principles in live events before rewriting the books. Currently, he's working on a book titled "Secrets of Success" and is preparing to present its introductory chapter at a live event in Mexico. Brunson emphasizes the significance of definiteness of purpose as a driving force behind success. He defines it as having a clear and determined goal, coupled with a burning desire to achieve it. Drawing from Napoleon Hill's teachings, he stresses that having a definite purpose sets the foundation for success, fueling one's actions and decisions. He encourages listeners to search for their purpose, whether it's creating something new or aligning with an existing mission they deeply believe in. Brunson reflects on his own mission to help entrepreneurs and the impact of definiteness of purpose in driving positive change and contribution. In closing, he urges listeners to pursue their purpose with determination and invites them to share their own purposes with him on social media, emphasizing his role in supporting creators and changemakers. Overall, Brunson's message underscores the transformative power of definiteness of purpose in shaping lives and creating meaningful impact. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 09 Mar 2022 09:00:00 -0000 The Wake Of Contribution Inside Your Definite Purpose full 499 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Napoleon Hill said: There is one quality which one must possess to win, and that is definiteness of purpose, the knowledge of what one wants, and a burning desire to possess it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter... Napoleon Hill said: There is one quality which one must possess to win, and that is definiteness of purpose, the knowledge of what one wants, and a burning desire to possess it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Russell Brunson's podcast transcript dives deep into the concept of definiteness of purpose, a principle he learned from Napoleon Hill. He highlights the importance of having a clear and unwavering purpose in life, emphasizing that it's not just about having a vague idea of what you want, but having a burning desire to achieve it at all costs. He shares his personal journey of writing books and how he often starts over after realizing he doesn't like the initial drafts, preferring to teach the principles in live events before rewriting the books. Currently, he's working on a book titled "Secrets of Success" and is preparing to present its introductory chapter at a live event in Mexico. Brunson emphasizes the significance of definiteness of purpose as a driving force behind success. He defines it as having a clear and determined goal, coupled with a burning desire to achieve it. Drawing from Napoleon Hill's teachings, he stresses that having a definite purpose sets the foundation for success, fueling one's actions and decisions. He encourages listeners to search for their purpose, whether it's creating something new or aligning with an existing mission they deeply believe in. Brunson reflects on his own mission to help entrepreneurs and the impact of definiteness of purpose in driving positive change and contribution. In closing, he urges listeners to pursue their purpose with determination and invites them to share their own purposes with him on social media, emphasizing his role in supporting creators and changemakers. Overall, Brunson's message underscores the transformative power of definiteness of purpose in shaping lives and creating meaningful impact. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Napoleon Hill said: There is one quality which one must possess to win, and that is definiteness of purpose, the knowledge of what one wants, and a burning desire to possess it.

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Russell Brunson's podcast transcript dives deep into the concept of definiteness of purpose, a principle he learned from Napoleon Hill. He highlights the importance of having a clear and unwavering purpose in life, emphasizing that it's not just about having a vague idea of what you want, but having a burning desire to achieve it at all costs.


He shares his personal journey of writing books and how he often starts over after realizing he doesn't like the initial drafts, preferring to teach the principles in live events before rewriting the books. Currently, he's working on a book titled "Secrets of Success" and is preparing to present its introductory chapter at a live event in Mexico.


Brunson emphasizes the significance of definiteness of purpose as a driving force behind success. He defines it as having a clear and determined goal, coupled with a burning desire to achieve it. Drawing from Napoleon Hill's teachings, he stresses that having a definite purpose sets the foundation for success, fueling one's actions and decisions.


He encourages listeners to search for their purpose, whether it's creating something new or aligning with an existing mission they deeply believe in. Brunson reflects on his own mission to help entrepreneurs and the impact of definiteness of purpose in driving positive change and contribution.


In closing, he urges listeners to pursue their purpose with determination and invites them to share their own purposes with him on social media, emphasizing his role in supporting creators and changemakers.


Overall, Brunson's message underscores the transformative power of definiteness of purpose in shaping lives and creating meaningful impact.

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]]> 774 no New Framework Hack From The Mastermind In Paradise https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/new-framework-hack-from-the-mastermind-in-paradise One of the cool "Ah-ha's" I had today, sitting in our 2CCX, Inner Circle, Category Kings mastermind group. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing In this podcast episode, Russell Brunson shares insights from his experience at a mastermind event in Mexico. He reflects on the shift from hosting a cruise to an all-inclusive resort for the event due to COVID-19 concerns. Surprisingly, more people registered for the resort event compared to the cruise, which Brunson attributes to the appeal of the resort setting. Brunson then delves into the power of having a singular framework in business, using Brooke Castillo's business model as an example. Castillo's business revolves around one core framework that she teaches across various platforms, from her podcast to her membership site and coaching certification program. Brunson emphasizes the effectiveness of this approach, noting that Castillo's business is among the most successful in the industry. Drawing parallels to his own business, Brunson discusses the multitude of frameworks he has developed and teaches through his books, such as "DotCom Secrets," "Expert Secrets," and "Traffic Secrets." He explains how these frameworks form the foundation of his coaching programs, from One Funnel Away Challenge to Two Comma Club X Coaching Program, Inner Circle, and Category Kings Mastermind. Brunson highlights the evolution and application of these frameworks within his community, with members sharing their experiences, tweaks, and adaptations to the core principles. He emphasizes the importance of networking and learning from peers, as demonstrated in the Mastermind event where participants share insights and strategies derived from applying the frameworks in their businesses. In conclusion, Brunson encourages listeners to follow the path of mastery through his coaching programs and events, where they can learn, network, and share experiences with like-minded entrepreneurs. He emphasizes the significance of having a solid framework in business and the potential for success that comes from mastering and applying it effectively. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:00:00 -0000 New Framework Hack From The Mastermind In Paradise full 498 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of the cool "Ah-ha's" I had today, sitting in our 2CCX, Inner Circle, Category Kings mastermind group. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell... One of the cool "Ah-ha's" I had today, sitting in our 2CCX, Inner Circle, Category Kings mastermind group. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing In this podcast episode, Russell Brunson shares insights from his experience at a mastermind event in Mexico. He reflects on the shift from hosting a cruise to an all-inclusive resort for the event due to COVID-19 concerns. Surprisingly, more people registered for the resort event compared to the cruise, which Brunson attributes to the appeal of the resort setting. Brunson then delves into the power of having a singular framework in business, using Brooke Castillo's business model as an example. Castillo's business revolves around one core framework that she teaches across various platforms, from her podcast to her membership site and coaching certification program. Brunson emphasizes the effectiveness of this approach, noting that Castillo's business is among the most successful in the industry. Drawing parallels to his own business, Brunson discusses the multitude of frameworks he has developed and teaches through his books, such as "DotCom Secrets," "Expert Secrets," and "Traffic Secrets." He explains how these frameworks form the foundation of his coaching programs, from One Funnel Away Challenge to Two Comma Club X Coaching Program, Inner Circle, and Category Kings Mastermind. Brunson highlights the evolution and application of these frameworks within his community, with members sharing their experiences, tweaks, and adaptations to the core principles. He emphasizes the importance of networking and learning from peers, as demonstrated in the Mastermind event where participants share insights and strategies derived from applying the frameworks in their businesses. In conclusion, Brunson encourages listeners to follow the path of mastery through his coaching programs and events, where they can learn, network, and share experiences with like-minded entrepreneurs. He emphasizes the significance of having a solid framework in business and the potential for success that comes from mastering and applying it effectively. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of the cool "Ah-ha's" I had today, sitting in our 2CCX, Inner Circle, Category Kings mastermind group.

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In this podcast episode, Russell Brunson shares insights from his experience at a mastermind event in Mexico. He reflects on the shift from hosting a cruise to an all-inclusive resort for the event due to COVID-19 concerns. Surprisingly, more people registered for the resort event compared to the cruise, which Brunson attributes to the appeal of the resort setting.


Brunson then delves into the power of having a singular framework in business, using Brooke Castillo's business model as an example. Castillo's business revolves around one core framework that she teaches across various platforms, from her podcast to her membership site and coaching certification program. Brunson emphasizes the effectiveness of this approach, noting that Castillo's business is among the most successful in the industry.


Drawing parallels to his own business, Brunson discusses the multitude of frameworks he has developed and teaches through his books, such as "DotCom Secrets," "Expert Secrets," and "Traffic Secrets." He explains how these frameworks form the foundation of his coaching programs, from One Funnel Away Challenge to Two Comma Club X Coaching Program, Inner Circle, and Category Kings Mastermind.


Brunson highlights the evolution and application of these frameworks within his community, with members sharing their experiences, tweaks, and adaptations to the core principles. He emphasizes the importance of networking and learning from peers, as demonstrated in the Mastermind event where participants share insights and strategies derived from applying the frameworks in their businesses.


In conclusion, Brunson encourages listeners to follow the path of mastery through his coaching programs and events, where they can learn, network, and share experiences with like-minded entrepreneurs. He emphasizes the significance of having a solid framework in business and the potential for success that comes from mastering and applying it effectively.

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]]> 855 no How To Be A Solutions Curator https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-be-a-solutions-curator An interesting conversation I had with my buddy Chad Woolner about your real identity as a business owner. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell Brunson discusses a concept he learned from his friend Chad Woolner called "being a solutions curator." He shares his experience of attending his kids' wrestling tournament and chatting with Chad, who applied internet marketing principles to his chiropractic practice. Chad introduced the idea of being a solutions curator to his fellow chiropractors, emphasizing that they are not just chiropractors or marketers but solutions curators. The concept revolves around understanding that clients come seeking solutions to their problems, and it's the practitioner's job to curate various solutions to address those problems comprehensively. Brunson draws parallels between Chad's approach and his own philosophy of curating the best marketing practices for his audience. He encourages listeners to view their businesses through the lens of being solutions curators, focusing on serving their dream customers by providing curated solutions tailored to their needs. He emphasizes that this perspective shift can lead to breakthroughs in business strategy, including the development of value ladders, different offers, upsells, downsells, cross-sells, and backend sells. Brunson suggests that by adopting the role of solutions curators, entrepreneurs can better serve their audience and create more value. He concludes by thanking Chad for introducing the concept and encourages listeners to share the episode if they found it valuable. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 02 Mar 2022 09:00:00 -0000 How To Be A Solutions Curator full 497 Russell Brunson | YAP Media An interesting conversation I had with my buddy Chad Woolner about your real identity as a business owner. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell... An interesting conversation I had with my buddy Chad Woolner about your real identity as a business owner. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell Brunson discusses a concept he learned from his friend Chad Woolner called "being a solutions curator." He shares his experience of attending his kids' wrestling tournament and chatting with Chad, who applied internet marketing principles to his chiropractic practice. Chad introduced the idea of being a solutions curator to his fellow chiropractors, emphasizing that they are not just chiropractors or marketers but solutions curators. The concept revolves around understanding that clients come seeking solutions to their problems, and it's the practitioner's job to curate various solutions to address those problems comprehensively. Brunson draws parallels between Chad's approach and his own philosophy of curating the best marketing practices for his audience. He encourages listeners to view their businesses through the lens of being solutions curators, focusing on serving their dream customers by providing curated solutions tailored to their needs. He emphasizes that this perspective shift can lead to breakthroughs in business strategy, including the development of value ladders, different offers, upsells, downsells, cross-sells, and backend sells. Brunson suggests that by adopting the role of solutions curators, entrepreneurs can better serve their audience and create more value. He concludes by thanking Chad for introducing the concept and encourages listeners to share the episode if they found it valuable. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices An interesting conversation I had with my buddy Chad Woolner about your real identity as a business owner.

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In this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell Brunson discusses a concept he learned from his friend Chad Woolner called "being a solutions curator." He shares his experience of attending his kids' wrestling tournament and chatting with Chad, who applied internet marketing principles to his chiropractic practice.


Chad introduced the idea of being a solutions curator to his fellow chiropractors, emphasizing that they are not just chiropractors or marketers but solutions curators. The concept revolves around understanding that clients come seeking solutions to their problems, and it's the practitioner's job to curate various solutions to address those problems comprehensively.


Brunson draws parallels between Chad's approach and his own philosophy of curating the best marketing practices for his audience. He encourages listeners to view their businesses through the lens of being solutions curators, focusing on serving their dream customers by providing curated solutions tailored to their needs.


He emphasizes that this perspective shift can lead to breakthroughs in business strategy, including the development of value ladders, different offers, upsells, downsells, cross-sells, and backend sells. Brunson suggests that by adopting the role of solutions curators, entrepreneurs can better serve their audience and create more value.


He concludes by thanking Chad for introducing the concept and encourages listeners to share the episode if they found it valuable.

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]]> 639 no How Do We Get CERTAINTY As Entrepreneurs? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-do-we-get-certainty-as-entrepreneurs In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "How do we get CERTAINTY as entrepreneurs?" Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing It sounds like Russell and Alison are creating an amazing atmosphere of encouragement and empowerment. Russell's analogy of stepping into the fire to gain certainty is powerful—it's through facing challenges head-on that we truly grow. And Alison's point about the importance of community in celebrating successes is spot on. Being surrounded by like-minded individuals who understand the journey and can offer support makes a huge difference. It's clear they're passionate about helping others succeed and providing a supportive environment for growth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000 How Do We Get CERTAINTY As Entrepreneurs? full 496 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "How do we get CERTAINTY as entrepreneurs?" Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, everybody. Welcome back to... In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "How do we get CERTAINTY as entrepreneurs?" Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing It sounds like Russell and Alison are creating an amazing atmosphere of encouragement and empowerment. Russell's analogy of stepping into the fire to gain certainty is powerful—it's through facing challenges head-on that we truly grow. And Alison's point about the importance of community in celebrating successes is spot on. Being surrounded by like-minded individuals who understand the journey and can offer support makes a huge difference. It's clear they're passionate about helping others succeed and providing a supportive environment for growth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "How do we get CERTAINTY as entrepreneurs?"

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It sounds like Russell and Alison are creating an amazing atmosphere of encouragement and empowerment. Russell's analogy of stepping into the fire to gain certainty is powerful—it's through facing challenges head-on that we truly grow. And Alison's point about the importance of community in celebrating successes is spot on. Being surrounded by like-minded individuals who understand the journey and can offer support makes a huge difference. It's clear they're passionate about helping others succeed and providing a supportive environment for growth.

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]]> 1204 no Is My Value Ladder Backwards? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/is-my-value-ladder-backwards In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "Is my value ladder backwards?" Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing In this insightful and informative conversation, you received invaluable advice from Russell on structuring a value ladder and the importance of investing in yourself. It seems like Li-Sann Mullings gained solid direction on how to move forward with her business, especially transitioning from one-on-one coaching to group coaching and creating home study courses. Alison also emphasized the ripple effect of providing excellent service to customers, highlighting the importance of learning from successful models and applying those principles in your own business. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000 Is My Value Ladder Backwards? full 495 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "Is my value ladder backwards?" Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell.... In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "Is my value ladder backwards?" Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing In this insightful and informative conversation, you received invaluable advice from Russell on structuring a value ladder and the importance of investing in yourself. It seems like Li-Sann Mullings gained solid direction on how to move forward with her business, especially transitioning from one-on-one coaching to group coaching and creating home study courses. Alison also emphasized the ripple effect of providing excellent service to customers, highlighting the importance of learning from successful models and applying those principles in your own business. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "Is my value ladder backwards?"

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In this insightful and informative conversation, you received invaluable advice from Russell on structuring a value ladder and the importance of investing in yourself. It seems like Li-Sann Mullings gained solid direction on how to move forward with her business, especially transitioning from one-on-one coaching to group coaching and creating home study courses.


Alison also emphasized the ripple effect of providing excellent service to customers, highlighting the importance of learning from successful models and applying those principles in your own business.

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]]> 1491 no How Long Do I Stick With A Product That's Not Working? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-long-do-i-stick-with-a-product-thats-not-working In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "How long do you stick with a product that's not working?". Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Hey there! So, you're diving into this podcast where Russell Brunson and Alison Prince tackle a common question: When should you call it quits on a product that just isn't selling? It's a dilemma many entrepreneurs face, and their insights shed light on a crucial aspect of business strategy. Russell starts off by sharing anecdotes, including one about a friend who persisted with a product for years, only to find minimal success. He emphasizes the fine line between perseverance and recognizing a "dead duck." Sometimes, a product needs a pivot in positioning rather than a complete overhaul. Denise chimes in with her own experience, having switched gears after realizing her initial product wasn't hitting the mark. She's now venturing into a new area that aligns more with her passion. But she's still unsure about how long to give a new product before calling it quits, especially when it comes to specific offerings like a cookbook. Russell and Alison offer valuable advice, stressing the importance of positioning. They highlight how sometimes it's not the product itself that's the issue but rather how it's presented to the market. A simple tweak in messaging or target audience can make all the difference. In the end, Denise feels reinvigorated, ready to tackle both her new venture and potentially revisit her previous product with a fresh perspective. It's a testament to the power of strategic thinking and the value of seeking advice from experienced mentors like Russell and Alison. The conversation wraps up on a high note, with everyone energized by the exchange of ideas. It's clear that these "hot seats" are not only informative but also incredibly inspiring for all involved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000 How Long Do I Stick With A Product That's Not Working? full 494 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "How long do you stick with a product that's not working?". Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, good... In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "How long do you stick with a product that's not working?". Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing Hey there! So, you're diving into this podcast where Russell Brunson and Alison Prince tackle a common question: When should you call it quits on a product that just isn't selling? It's a dilemma many entrepreneurs face, and their insights shed light on a crucial aspect of business strategy. Russell starts off by sharing anecdotes, including one about a friend who persisted with a product for years, only to find minimal success. He emphasizes the fine line between perseverance and recognizing a "dead duck." Sometimes, a product needs a pivot in positioning rather than a complete overhaul. Denise chimes in with her own experience, having switched gears after realizing her initial product wasn't hitting the mark. She's now venturing into a new area that aligns more with her passion. But she's still unsure about how long to give a new product before calling it quits, especially when it comes to specific offerings like a cookbook. Russell and Alison offer valuable advice, stressing the importance of positioning. They highlight how sometimes it's not the product itself that's the issue but rather how it's presented to the market. A simple tweak in messaging or target audience can make all the difference. In the end, Denise feels reinvigorated, ready to tackle both her new venture and potentially revisit her previous product with a fresh perspective. It's a testament to the power of strategic thinking and the value of seeking advice from experienced mentors like Russell and Alison. The conversation wraps up on a high note, with everyone energized by the exchange of ideas. It's clear that these "hot seats" are not only informative but also incredibly inspiring for all involved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode, Russell and Alison answer the question "How long do you stick with a product that's not working?".

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Hey there! So, you're diving into this podcast where Russell Brunson and Alison Prince tackle a common question: When should you call it quits on a product that just isn't selling? It's a dilemma many entrepreneurs face, and their insights shed light on a crucial aspect of business strategy.


Russell starts off by sharing anecdotes, including one about a friend who persisted with a product for years, only to find minimal success. He emphasizes the fine line between perseverance and recognizing a "dead duck." Sometimes, a product needs a pivot in positioning rather than a complete overhaul.


Denise chimes in with her own experience, having switched gears after realizing her initial product wasn't hitting the mark. She's now venturing into a new area that aligns more with her passion. But she's still unsure about how long to give a new product before calling it quits, especially when it comes to specific offerings like a cookbook.


Russell and Alison offer valuable advice, stressing the importance of positioning. They highlight how sometimes it's not the product itself that's the issue but rather how it's presented to the market. A simple tweak in messaging or target audience can make all the difference.


In the end, Denise feels reinvigorated, ready to tackle both her new venture and potentially revisit her previous product with a fresh perspective. It's a testament to the power of strategic thinking and the value of seeking advice from experienced mentors like Russell and Alison.


The conversation wraps up on a high note, with everyone energized by the exchange of ideas. It's clear that these "hot seats" are not only informative but also incredibly inspiring for all involved.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 581 no Selling The Vision, Not The Product https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/selling-the-vision-not-the-product In another episode from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, Russell and Alison discuss the importance of selling your vision and how doing that will actually sell your product. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- In Russell Brunson's Marketing Secrets podcast, a Q&A session is held to explore the potency of selling a vision rather than a product. This concept is exemplified by Alison's presentation at an e-commerce event, where wood blocks are transformed into desirable items through creative visualization. The importance of entrepreneurs embracing this mindset to boost sales is emphasized by Russell. Advice is sought by Andrea on promoting home cooking to parents through an e-book. Despite having a large Instagram following, she struggles to convert Latin moms. Recommendations are given by Russell and Alison to shift the focus from easy cooking to emotional connection. The use of Instagram to drive traffic to her email list is suggested, emphasizing its effectiveness for sales. Consistent email communication is highlighted as crucial, with Russell sharing his experiences and stressing its long-term impact. Practical tips on crafting engaging email content are offered by Alison. Gratitude is expressed by Andrea, who pledges to implement the advice to enhance her marketing strategy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000 Selling The Vision, Not The Product full 493 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In another episode from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, Russell and Alison discuss the importance of selling your vision and how doing that will actually sell your product. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my... In another episode from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, Russell and Alison discuss the importance of selling your vision and how doing that will actually sell your product. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- In Russell Brunson's Marketing Secrets podcast, a Q&A session is held to explore the potency of selling a vision rather than a product. This concept is exemplified by Alison's presentation at an e-commerce event, where wood blocks are transformed into desirable items through creative visualization. The importance of entrepreneurs embracing this mindset to boost sales is emphasized by Russell. Advice is sought by Andrea on promoting home cooking to parents through an e-book. Despite having a large Instagram following, she struggles to convert Latin moms. Recommendations are given by Russell and Alison to shift the focus from easy cooking to emotional connection. The use of Instagram to drive traffic to her email list is suggested, emphasizing its effectiveness for sales. Consistent email communication is highlighted as crucial, with Russell sharing his experiences and stressing its long-term impact. Practical tips on crafting engaging email content are offered by Alison. Gratitude is expressed by Andrea, who pledges to implement the advice to enhance her marketing strategy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In another episode from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, Russell and Alison discuss the importance of selling your vision and how doing that will actually sell your product.

Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing

---Transcript---

In Russell Brunson's Marketing Secrets podcast, a Q&A session is held to explore the potency of selling a vision rather than a product. This concept is exemplified by Alison's presentation at an e-commerce event, where wood blocks are transformed into desirable items through creative visualization. The importance of entrepreneurs embracing this mindset to boost sales is emphasized by Russell.


Advice is sought by Andrea on promoting home cooking to parents through an e-book. Despite having a large Instagram following, she struggles to convert Latin moms. Recommendations are given by Russell and Alison to shift the focus from easy cooking to emotional connection. The use of Instagram to drive traffic to her email list is suggested, emphasizing its effectiveness for sales.


Consistent email communication is highlighted as crucial, with Russell sharing his experiences and stressing its long-term impact. Practical tips on crafting engaging email content are offered by Alison. Gratitude is expressed by Andrea, who pledges to implement the advice to enhance her marketing strategy.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 1487 no Time For Business And Family? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/time-for-business-and-family In this episode from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, Russell and Alison answer a question about how to balance family and business in your life. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody? We're back to Q&A's here on the Marketing Seekers podcast. The question for today's episode, again, came from the Ecomm versus Expert Smackdown with Alison Prince and I. And during that event, we opened it up for questions and you guys asked them and we gave answers. So this next one was about how do you make time for, if you have a busy life, like how many of you guys have a busy life? You got family, you got work, you got all these things. How do you do business and family and church and all the things? How do you juggle all the things and don't go crazy? So that is the question for today. And both Alison and I tag team this one to give you guys some answers that hopefully will help. Again, they're not something that we're flawless at or perfect. I'm definitely not, maybe Alison is, she probably is. But something that I've been learning and I've been... That I've had to do to be able to try to do all the things. We always want to have it all. How do I have a business and a family and my church responsibilities and I want to read books and I want to have fun and I want to... All the things. How do you do it all? So hopefully this question will help answer the way that Allison and I look at things, and hopefully it'll give you nugget or two to help you on your journey as well. So that said, we're going to queue up the theme song. When you come back, you have a chance to hear Alison and I talking about how in the world we make time for family and business and church and all the things at the same time. Brent Coppieters: Another question from Kathy that we pulled off, she says, "I have loved every moment of this event so far. I have an extremely busy family that is always on the go with work, family life, and church. I want to ask how you manage to have time for your business and your family." Russell: Good question. We can both probably answer this really well. Alison Prince: Yeah. Russell: My life right now, just so you guys are fully aware, is insanely busy, too. I'm in the middle wrestling season. I'm one of my kids wrestling coaches so every single day at 2:30, besides yesterday, but today I'm leaving as well, I pack up everything and I run and from 2:30 till 6:30 I'm at the gym with my kids wrestling. That on top of running 'Click Funnels' and 'Magnetic Marketing' and 'Marketing Secrets' and my church calling, so I get it. Life is busy and I've got five kids and there's also soccer games and all the other things. It comes down to a couple things. Number one is prioritizing your calendar, where do things actually fit in? And number two is becoming really good at being present, like I am here and I am present. I'm a hundred percent with you guys. I'm not over here on wrestling practice right now or my family... I'm here a hundred percent. And when I go home, I'm with my family a hundred percent. When I'm at my office, I'm a hundred percent. Most people are splitting their brain power between five different things. They're at work, but they're also worried about this over here and they're not being present. And for me, it's like, I have my calendar and I say, okay, for me, I have to get up earlier to get everything done. Especially during the wrestling season, it's really hard for me. So I get up between five and seven depending on what I need to get done. So that time's there, it's blocked out and it's usually writing time. I need to write during this time. And then from seven till like 8:30, that's when I'm waking my kids up, I'm driving them to school. I want to be the dad who drives my kids to school. So that time it's like, computers off, everything's off, and I'm in the car driving kids back and forth because I have kids in every school, they don't all go to the same school. So it's like back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And then I get done, I got a 30 minute shower and then boom at the office. And from this time, this time, I'm work mode and I'm doing work, I'm getting work done. And it's like, I'm able to be present in that moment. I think for most people, it's figuring out I got to schedule the time or it's not going to happen. I know the time my wife and I have, this is the time my wife and I have to spend together and it's blocked out, it's scheduled, I'm present when I'm there as much as I can. And I'm not perfect with this. I would be lying if I was like, "Oh, I'm flawless." But I try to do it that way where I figure out in Google calendars, I block out this is when this happens, this happens, this happens. And in those windows, I try to be a hundred percent present, on the thing and so I can get the work done. And if you think about this, a couple times a year this happens, where like my wife and I are flying somewhere, flying to Hawaii for a family trip or something. I got a two hour window in the morning to get work done. And when I come in and for two hours, I go as fast as I can. I can get more done in a two hour window than typically I would get done in an eight hour day. Why? It's because there's time that's compressed and I'm present. And so for me, it's like, I got to be living my life that way all the time so I can get everything done I'm trying to get done. So it's like compressed time, being present, and you get so much more done than you'd ever believed. That's kind of my hacks. Alison: That's so good. I call them 'power hours.' And it is, it's putting that limited time and you get so much more done in there. But think of it this way, too. We're both super busy, right? We understand it. And so this program is actually designed for busy people, because if we can teach you how to do this when you're busy, imagine what's going to happen when it's not busy. And so we didn't design this to go slow, to... I don't know, dawdle around. We designed this for busy people and we show you... I talk about 'power hours' all the time and how to set them and make them like... I think of it like when I schedule a hair appointment, you probably don't have this problem, but when I schedule a hair appointment, I will not miss that hair appointment for anything. If I have a broken leg, I'm still going to show up because it takes two to three months to get in. And if we can treat those 'power hours' like that, then that's when magic happens. And so again, we teach you how to do it on a busy schedule so that you can make this happen. We help you to build those habits that keep you going over and over and over again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000 Time For Business And Family? full 492 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this episode from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, Russell and Alison answer a question about how to balance family and business in your life. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ... In this episode from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, Russell and Alison answer a question about how to balance family and business in your life. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody? We're back to Q&A's here on the Marketing Seekers podcast. The question for today's episode, again, came from the Ecomm versus Expert Smackdown with Alison Prince and I. And during that event, we opened it up for questions and you guys asked them and we gave answers. So this next one was about how do you make time for, if you have a busy life, like how many of you guys have a busy life? You got family, you got work, you got all these things. How do you do business and family and church and all the things? How do you juggle all the things and don't go crazy? So that is the question for today. And both Alison and I tag team this one to give you guys some answers that hopefully will help. Again, they're not something that we're flawless at or perfect. I'm definitely not, maybe Alison is, she probably is. But something that I've been learning and I've been... That I've had to do to be able to try to do all the things. We always want to have it all. How do I have a business and a family and my church responsibilities and I want to read books and I want to have fun and I want to... All the things. How do you do it all? So hopefully this question will help answer the way that Allison and I look at things, and hopefully it'll give you nugget or two to help you on your journey as well. So that said, we're going to queue up the theme song. When you come back, you have a chance to hear Alison and I talking about how in the world we make time for family and business and church and all the things at the same time. Brent Coppieters: Another question from Kathy that we pulled off, she says, "I have loved every moment of this event so far. I have an extremely busy family that is always on the go with work, family life, and church. I want to ask how you manage to have time for your business and your family." Russell: Good question. We can both probably answer this really well. Alison Prince: Yeah. Russell: My life right now, just so you guys are fully aware, is insanely busy, too. I'm in the middle wrestling season. I'm one of my kids wrestling coaches so every single day at 2:30, besides yesterday, but today I'm leaving as well, I pack up everything and I run and from 2:30 till 6:30 I'm at the gym with my kids wrestling. That on top of running 'Click Funnels' and 'Magnetic Marketing' and 'Marketing Secrets' and my church calling, so I get it. Life is busy and I've got five kids and there's also soccer games and all the other things. It comes down to a couple things. Number one is prioritizing your calendar, where do things actually fit in? And number two is becoming really good at being present, like I am here and I am present. I'm a hundred percent with you guys. I'm not over here on wrestling practice right now or my family... I'm here a hundred percent. And when I go home, I'm with my family a hundred percent. When I'm at my office, I'm a hundred percent. Most people are splitting their brain power between five different things. They're at work, but they're also worried about this over here and they're not being present. And for me, it's like, I have my calendar and I say, okay, for me, I have to get up earlier to get everything done. Especially during the wrestling season, it's really hard for me. So I get up between five and seven depending on what I need to get done. So that time's there, it's blocked out and it's usually writing time. I need to write during this time. And then from seven till like 8:30, that's when I'm waking my kids up, I'm driving them to school. I want to be the dad who drives my kids to school. So that time it's like, computers off, everything's off, and I'm in the car driving kids back and forth because I have kids in every school, they don't all go to the same school. So it's like back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And then I get done, I got a 30 minute shower and then boom at the office. And from this time, this time, I'm work mode and I'm doing work, I'm getting work done. And it's like, I'm able to be present in that moment. I think for most people, it's figuring out I got to schedule the time or it's not going to happen. I know the time my wife and I have, this is the time my wife and I have to spend together and it's blocked out, it's scheduled, I'm present when I'm there as much as I can. And I'm not perfect with this. I would be lying if I was like, "Oh, I'm flawless." But I try to do it that way where I figure out in Google calendars, I block out this is when this happens, this happens, this happens. And in those windows, I try to be a hundred percent present, on the thing and so I can get the work done. And if you think about this, a couple times a year this happens, where like my wife and I are flying somewhere, flying to Hawaii for a family trip or something. I got a two hour window in the morning to get work done. And when I come in and for two hours, I go as fast as I can. I can get more done in a two hour window than typically I would get done in an eight hour day. Why? It's because there's time that's compressed and I'm present. And so for me, it's like, I got to be living my life that way all the time so I can get everything done I'm trying to get done. So it's like compressed time, being present, and you get so much more done than you'd ever believed. That's kind of my hacks. Alison: That's so good. I call them 'power hours.' And it is, it's putting that limited time and you get so much more done in there. But think of it this way, too. We're both super busy, right? We understand it. And so this program is actually designed for busy people, because if we can teach you how to do this when you're busy, imagine what's going to happen when it's not busy. And so we didn't design this to go slow, to... I don't know, dawdle around. We designed this for busy people and we show you... I talk about 'power hours' all the time and how to set them and make them like... I think of it like when I schedule a hair appointment, you probably don't have this problem, but when I schedule a hair appointment, I will not miss that hair appointment for anything. If I have a broken leg, I'm still going to show up because it takes two to three months to get in. And if we can treat those 'power hours' like that, then that's when magic happens. And so again, we teach you how to do it on a busy schedule so that you can make this happen. We help you to build those habits that keep you going over and over and over again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, Russell and Alison answer a question about how to balance family and business in your life.

Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing

---Transcript---

Russell Brunson:

Hey, what's up everybody? We're back to Q&A's here on the Marketing Seekers podcast. The question for today's episode, again, came from the Ecomm versus Expert Smackdown with Alison Prince and I. And during that event, we opened it up for questions and you guys asked them and we gave answers.

So this next one was about how do you make time for, if you have a busy life, like how many of you guys have a busy life? You got family, you got work, you got all these things. How do you do business and family and church and all the things? How do you juggle all the things and don't go crazy? So that is the question for today. And both Alison and I tag team this one to give you guys some answers that hopefully will help.

Again, they're not something that we're flawless at or perfect. I'm definitely not, maybe Alison is, she probably is. But something that I've been learning and I've been... That I've had to do to be able to try to do all the things. We always want to have it all. How do I have a business and a family and my church responsibilities and I want to read books and I want to have fun and I want to... All the things. How do you do it all? So hopefully this question will help answer the way that Allison and I look at things, and hopefully it'll give you nugget or two to help you on your journey as well. So that said, we're going to queue up the theme song. When you come back, you have a chance to hear Alison and I talking about how in the world we make time for family and business and church and all the things at the same time.

Brent Coppieters:

Another question from Kathy that we pulled off, she says, "I have loved every moment of this event so far. I have an extremely busy family that is always on the go with work, family life, and church. I want to ask how you manage to have time for your business and your family."

Russell:

Good question. We can both probably answer this really well.

Alison Prince:

Yeah.

Russell:

My life right now, just so you guys are fully aware, is insanely busy, too. I'm in the middle wrestling season. I'm one of my kids wrestling coaches so every single day at 2:30, besides yesterday, but today I'm leaving as well, I pack up everything and I run and from 2:30 till 6:30 I'm at the gym with my kids wrestling. That on top of running 'Click Funnels' and 'Magnetic Marketing' and 'Marketing Secrets' and my church calling, so I get it. Life is busy and I've got five kids and there's also soccer games and all the other things.

It comes down to a couple things. Number one is prioritizing your calendar, where do things actually fit in? And number two is becoming really good at being present, like I am here and I am present. I'm a hundred percent with you guys. I'm not over here on wrestling practice right now or my family... I'm here a hundred percent. And when I go home, I'm with my family a hundred percent. When I'm at my office, I'm a hundred percent. Most people are splitting their brain power between five different things. They're at work, but they're also worried about this over here and they're not being present. And for me, it's like, I have my calendar and I say, okay, for me, I have to get up earlier to get everything done. Especially during the wrestling season, it's really hard for me. So I get up between five and seven depending on what I need to get done.

So that time's there, it's blocked out and it's usually writing time. I need to write during this time. And then from seven till like 8:30, that's when I'm waking my kids up, I'm driving them to school. I want to be the dad who drives my kids to school. So that time it's like, computers off, everything's off, and I'm in the car driving kids back and forth because I have kids in every school, they don't all go to the same school. So it's like back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And then I get done, I got a 30 minute shower and then boom at the office. And from this time, this time, I'm work mode and I'm doing work, I'm getting work done. And it's like, I'm able to be present in that moment. I think for most people, it's figuring out I got to schedule the time or it's not going to happen.

I know the time my wife and I have, this is the time my wife and I have to spend together and it's blocked out, it's scheduled, I'm present when I'm there as much as I can. And I'm not perfect with this. I would be lying if I was like, "Oh, I'm flawless." But I try to do it that way where I figure out in Google calendars, I block out this is when this happens, this happens, this happens. And in those windows, I try to be a hundred percent present, on the thing and so I can get the work done.

And if you think about this, a couple times a year this happens, where like my wife and I are flying somewhere, flying to Hawaii for a family trip or something. I got a two hour window in the morning to get work done. And when I come in and for two hours, I go as fast as I can. I can get more done in a two hour window than typically I would get done in an eight hour day. Why? It's because there's time that's compressed and I'm present. And so for me, it's like, I got to be living my life that way all the time so I can get everything done I'm trying to get done. So it's like compressed time, being present, and you get so much more done than you'd ever believed. That's kind of my hacks.

Alison:

That's so good. I call them 'power hours.' And it is, it's putting that limited time and you get so much more done in there. But think of it this way, too. We're both super busy, right? We understand it. And so this program is actually designed for busy people, because if we can teach you how to do this when you're busy, imagine what's going to happen when it's not busy. And so we didn't design this to go slow, to... I don't know, dawdle around. We designed this for busy people and we show you... I talk about 'power hours' all the time and how to set them and make them like... I think of it like when I schedule a hair appointment, you probably don't have this problem, but when I schedule a hair appointment, I will not miss that hair appointment for anything. If I have a broken leg, I'm still going to show up because it takes two to three months to get in. And if we can treat those 'power hours' like that, then that's when magic happens.

And so again, we teach you how to do it on a busy schedule so that you can make this happen. We help you to build those habits that keep you going over and over and over again.

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]]> 434 no College Vs Entrepreneurship https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/college-vs-entrepreneurship Another question from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown". Russell and Alison talk about college and entrepreneurship and which one they feel is more valuable. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, this is Russell, and welcome back to the Marketing Skills podcast. You guys have really been enjoying these Q and A's, so we got a couple more for you. And again, these came from the e-comm versus experts Smack Down Allison Prince and I did. Hopefully had a chance to attend that event. If you didn't, come on now, do you hate money that bad? Like we put on these amazing events, we kill ourselves, we prepare for months at a time to put these things on for you, and then you were too busy or you didn't take the time off. Come on, you got to be there. There's gold every single time. Anyway, the event was amazing, and we did a whole day of Q and A's and stuff. There's goal every single time. Anyway, the event was amazing and we got some, we did a whole day like Q and A's and stuff. A lot of really good ones came through. This one was one that's interesting. I'm titling this episode College Versus Entrepreneurship. But the questions you'll see with somebody who's about to graduate from college, has spent all the time, energy, and money doing this thing, but then they're not passionate about what they're learning. They are passionate about being an entrepreneur, like what do I do? I think for a lot of you guys you're in some version of that, right? Most people don't start entrepreneurship on day number one. You've done something, you've pursued something, you have a career, you have a business, you have a family, you have something first, and you're not happy. You're looking for where to go from there. Hopefully the Q and A from this session will help you if that's where you're at. All right, with that said, we'll cue up the theme song, when we come back we're going to discuss college versus entrepreneurship. Brent Coppieters: First off is from Austin Lark. He says, "I'm so torn. I am just about to graduate from college, and I am not passionate about what I have studied. I feel drawn to life as an entrepreneur. What advice would you give someone like myself?" Alison Prince: Do you want to take it or do you want me to? Russell: We can tag team this. So good news, I remember going through my college. I went to college because I wanted to wrestle, so that was the thing. I got my degree, and I remember at my graduation sitting out, had cap and gown, all these things on. I remember luckily for me I had started my business at the time, but I remember looking around at everybody else, and they're all celebrating inside, and I was like, I didn't actually learn anything of value. I have no valuable skills. If I was these guys I would be so scared knowing that they had to go out the next day and use what they learned to actually get paid money. I was so grateful I had this thing. I think for you, I wouldn't look at it as a negative thing. My college time was amazing because I got to wrestle, I met my wife, all the amazing things happened, friendships. But man, I was so grateful that I had this thing that I was looking for, that I was doing, and it wasn't big at the time, but I had started, and I was like okay, now this is the direction I want to go with my life. I think if I was you, and I don't know your situation, life, what you're doing or where you're at, but I would be excited that I had a chance to experience the college life, I got to do all those kind of things, but now I've been given this gift where I know what to do and I know what to do with my future. I remember looking over, because my degree was computer information systems. I was going to be a programmer. Alison: You were? Russell: Yeah. I can't program anything. And I remember everyone that was on my row at graduation, they were all in my class. I was like we didn't learn how to... I have a degree, I don't know how to program anything. And these guys got the same degree and they're supposed to go to like real companies and ask for jobs to do the this thing. I was like man they still have to go and learn all this stuff on the job anyway. They didn't actually get anything that was going to be helpful, at least in my degree. My guess is, for most of you guys, especially if you're going through college, you probably don't have the skill set anyway. You're going to have to learn it on the job anyway. Might as well start doing that next to the learning on the job on something that you're passionate about, that's going to be for you. That would be kind of my feedback. I don't know. Alison: One thing that I've learned and I've thought is super fun, I've actually watched a lot of people do this is the whole ability to sell. We actually have to use this all the time. Not just in our business, we buy houses, we buy cars, some of you buy motorcycles, right? And then we have to sell it and then we go buy the next thing. And you can actually use this process all the time. Because we're constantly buying things. Right? I had one student, this was before the big housing boom where houses were not selling at all, and she used the process of selling. Her house had sat on the market for a long time, wasn't moving. She went to the realtor and says, "Can I just tweak something?" She went in wrote up a new description, within 24 hours, she had not only a full price offer from three people. Someone paid over $30,000 more because of the description. And so the stuff that we're teaching is more... It's so good for business, yes, and get you going, but you need this stuff in everyday life. Why isn't this stuff taught in regular schooling? I don't understand because this is what we have to have to survive as adults. Russell: Yeah. Sales, persuasion, all those kind of things for sure. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 09 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000 College Vs Entrepreneurship full 491 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Another question from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown". Russell and Alison talk about college and entrepreneurship and which one they feel is more valuable. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ... Another question from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown". Russell and Alison talk about college and entrepreneurship and which one they feel is more valuable. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, this is Russell, and welcome back to the Marketing Skills podcast. You guys have really been enjoying these Q and A's, so we got a couple more for you. And again, these came from the e-comm versus experts Smack Down Allison Prince and I did. Hopefully had a chance to attend that event. If you didn't, come on now, do you hate money that bad? Like we put on these amazing events, we kill ourselves, we prepare for months at a time to put these things on for you, and then you were too busy or you didn't take the time off. Come on, you got to be there. There's gold every single time. Anyway, the event was amazing, and we did a whole day of Q and A's and stuff. There's goal every single time. Anyway, the event was amazing and we got some, we did a whole day like Q and A's and stuff. A lot of really good ones came through. This one was one that's interesting. I'm titling this episode College Versus Entrepreneurship. But the questions you'll see with somebody who's about to graduate from college, has spent all the time, energy, and money doing this thing, but then they're not passionate about what they're learning. They are passionate about being an entrepreneur, like what do I do? I think for a lot of you guys you're in some version of that, right? Most people don't start entrepreneurship on day number one. You've done something, you've pursued something, you have a career, you have a business, you have a family, you have something first, and you're not happy. You're looking for where to go from there. Hopefully the Q and A from this session will help you if that's where you're at. All right, with that said, we'll cue up the theme song, when we come back we're going to discuss college versus entrepreneurship. Brent Coppieters: First off is from Austin Lark. He says, "I'm so torn. I am just about to graduate from college, and I am not passionate about what I have studied. I feel drawn to life as an entrepreneur. What advice would you give someone like myself?" Alison Prince: Do you want to take it or do you want me to? Russell: We can tag team this. So good news, I remember going through my college. I went to college because I wanted to wrestle, so that was the thing. I got my degree, and I remember at my graduation sitting out, had cap and gown, all these things on. I remember luckily for me I had started my business at the time, but I remember looking around at everybody else, and they're all celebrating inside, and I was like, I didn't actually learn anything of value. I have no valuable skills. If I was these guys I would be so scared knowing that they had to go out the next day and use what they learned to actually get paid money. I was so grateful I had this thing. I think for you, I wouldn't look at it as a negative thing. My college time was amazing because I got to wrestle, I met my wife, all the amazing things happened, friendships. But man, I was so grateful that I had this thing that I was looking for, that I was doing, and it wasn't big at the time, but I had started, and I was like okay, now this is the direction I want to go with my life. I think if I was you, and I don't know your situation, life, what you're doing or where you're at, but I would be excited that I had a chance to experience the college life, I got to do all those kind of things, but now I've been given this gift where I know what to do and I know what to do with my future. I remember looking over, because my degree was computer information systems. I was going to be a programmer. Alison: You were? Russell: Yeah. I can't program anything. And I remember everyone that was on my row at graduation, they were all in my class. I was like we didn't learn how to... I have a degree, I don't know how to program anything. And these guys got the same degree and they're supposed to go to like real companies and ask for jobs to do the this thing. I was like man they still have to go and learn all this stuff on the job anyway. They didn't actually get anything that was going to be helpful, at least in my degree. My guess is, for most of you guys, especially if you're going through college, you probably don't have the skill set anyway. You're going to have to learn it on the job anyway. Might as well start doing that next to the learning on the job on something that you're passionate about, that's going to be for you. That would be kind of my feedback. I don't know. Alison: One thing that I've learned and I've thought is super fun, I've actually watched a lot of people do this is the whole ability to sell. We actually have to use this all the time. Not just in our business, we buy houses, we buy cars, some of you buy motorcycles, right? And then we have to sell it and then we go buy the next thing. And you can actually use this process all the time. Because we're constantly buying things. Right? I had one student, this was before the big housing boom where houses were not selling at all, and she used the process of selling. Her house had sat on the market for a long time, wasn't moving. She went to the realtor and says, "Can I just tweak something?" She went in wrote up a new description, within 24 hours, she had not only a full price offer from three people. Someone paid over $30,000 more because of the description. And so the stuff that we're teaching is more... It's so good for business, yes, and get you going, but you need this stuff in everyday life. Why isn't this stuff taught in regular schooling? I don't understand because this is what we have to have to survive as adults. Russell: Yeah. Sales, persuasion, all those kind of things for sure. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Another question from the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown". Russell and Alison talk about college and entrepreneurship and which one they feel is more valuable.

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---Transcript---

Russell Brunson:

Hey, this is Russell, and welcome back to the Marketing Skills podcast. You guys have really been enjoying these Q and A's, so we got a couple more for you. And again, these came from the e-comm versus experts Smack Down Allison Prince and I did. Hopefully had a chance to attend that event. If you didn't, come on now, do you hate money that bad? Like we put on these amazing events, we kill ourselves, we prepare for months at a time to put these things on for you, and then you were too busy or you didn't take the time off. Come on, you got to be there. There's gold every single time.

Anyway, the event was amazing, and we did a whole day of Q and A's and stuff. There's goal every single time. Anyway, the event was amazing and we got some, we did a whole day like Q and A's and stuff. A lot of really good ones came through. This one was one that's interesting. I'm titling this episode College Versus Entrepreneurship. But the questions you'll see with somebody who's about to graduate from college, has spent all the time, energy, and money doing this thing, but then they're not passionate about what they're learning. They are passionate about being an entrepreneur, like what do I do?

I think for a lot of you guys you're in some version of that, right? Most people don't start entrepreneurship on day number one. You've done something, you've pursued something, you have a career, you have a business, you have a family, you have something first, and you're not happy. You're looking for where to go from there. Hopefully the Q and A from this session will help you if that's where you're at.

All right, with that said, we'll cue up the theme song, when we come back we're going to discuss college versus entrepreneurship.

Brent Coppieters:

First off is from Austin Lark. He says, "I'm so torn. I am just about to graduate from college, and I am not passionate about what I have studied. I feel drawn to life as an entrepreneur. What advice would you give someone like myself?"

Alison Prince:

Do you want to take it or do you want me to?

Russell:

We can tag team this. So good news, I remember going through my college. I went to college because I wanted to wrestle, so that was the thing. I got my degree, and I remember at my graduation sitting out, had cap and gown, all these things on. I remember luckily for me I had started my business at the time, but I remember looking around at everybody else, and they're all celebrating inside, and I was like, I didn't actually learn anything of value. I have no valuable skills. If I was these guys I would be so scared knowing that they had to go out the next day and use what they learned to actually get paid money. I was so grateful I had this thing.

I think for you, I wouldn't look at it as a negative thing. My college time was amazing because I got to wrestle, I met my wife, all the amazing things happened, friendships. But man, I was so grateful that I had this thing that I was looking for, that I was doing, and it wasn't big at the time, but I had started, and I was like okay, now this is the direction I want to go with my life. I think if I was you, and I don't know your situation, life, what you're doing or where you're at, but I would be excited that I had a chance to experience the college life, I got to do all those kind of things, but now I've been given this gift where I know what to do and I know what to do with my future.

I remember looking over, because my degree was computer information systems. I was going to be a programmer.

Alison:

You were?

Russell:

Yeah. I can't program anything. And I remember everyone that was on my row at graduation, they were all in my class. I was like we didn't learn how to... I have a degree, I don't know how to program anything. And these guys got the same degree and they're supposed to go to like real companies and ask for jobs to do the this thing. I was like man they still have to go and learn all this stuff on the job anyway. They didn't actually get anything that was going to be helpful, at least in my degree. My guess is, for most of you guys, especially if you're going through college, you probably don't have the skill set anyway. You're going to have to learn it on the job anyway. Might as well start doing that next to the learning on the job on something that you're passionate about, that's going to be for you. That would be kind of my feedback. I don't know.

Alison:

One thing that I've learned and I've thought is super fun, I've actually watched a lot of people do this is the whole ability to sell. We actually have to use this all the time. Not just in our business, we buy houses, we buy cars, some of you buy motorcycles, right? And then we have to sell it and then we go buy the next thing. And you can actually use this process all the time. Because we're constantly buying things. Right? I had one student, this was before the big housing boom where houses were not selling at all, and she used the process of selling. Her house had sat on the market for a long time, wasn't moving. She went to the realtor and says, "Can I just tweak something?" She went in wrote up a new description, within 24 hours, she had not only a full price offer from three people. Someone paid over $30,000 more because of the description.

And so the stuff that we're teaching is more... It's so good for business, yes, and get you going, but you need this stuff in everyday life. Why isn't this stuff taught in regular schooling? I don't understand because this is what we have to have to survive as adults.

Russell:

Yeah. Sales, persuasion, all those kind of things for sure.

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]]> 397 no How To Choose Between Head And Heart https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-choose-between-head-and-heart Russell and Alison answer another question from the recent “Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown”.  Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm back with some more Q&As from the e-com expert SmackDown that Alison Prince and I did last week, and this next question was a really fun one. The question they asked was, as they're pursuing their business, how do they choose between their head and their heart? This person asked a question, their heart had an idea and a passionate thing they wanted to do, but they didn't know if they saw the clear path. How is it was going to make money? How is it going to do all these things versus their head. Oh, there's other ways I can do this that are very numbers based. I can make money faster and all those things. The question was, how do I choose between my head and my heart? So I think it's something a lot of us struggle with because all of us have these missions, right? We're called on this mission. Then part of it's like, oh, I got to make a bunch of money. And the yin yang between that, and how do you figure it out, and what do you do, and which one do you follow? Do you follow your head or your heart? So I think that this question was very relevant and timely for most of us, and hopefully for you, and hopefully my answers and what Alison and I give back will be useful for you as well. So that said, we're going to queue up the theme song when we get back. You have a chance to answer this question. How do you choose between your head and your heart? Brent Coppieters: This is from John. He says, "How do I choose between my head and my heart? My heart tells me that I should pursue one direction, vision, and path. And this feels like my calling from God to empower men, in particular husbands, to overcome destructive, addictive behaviors. But my head says that I should pick a more practical direction, a product or some other safe bet. How do I go all in and follow my heart when self-doubt and fear are so strong?" Russell: People look at my business today and they're like, "Oh, Russell, you picked such a good market. You picked funnels." And, of course, that's the big thing. This is amazing. But I want to rewind back 18 years ago. 18 years ago I started learning about this and I was like, "This is the greatest thing in the world!" And I started telling everybody. I told my mom about it, my friends about it, my family about it, and they're like, "Oh, he's crazy," right? And I was like, "None of my friends want to know about this. I gotta tell someone about it. So Brent was here for this. I literally bought radio ads in Boise, Idaho saying, "I'm doing an event talking about marketing and sales funnels, and how you can grow a business online. Dah, dah, dah, dah." I ran radio ads because I was so excited about this topic. And guess what? We got a dozen people who responded to radio ads. Like sweet, rented a Holiday Inn. We got things set up. I got there. I had a presentation. I had my shirt and tie on. I was all ready. People showed up for the event. The first event was supposed to have, I don't know, 50-60 people that had RSVPd from the radio ad. Two people walked in and I was like, "Oh, crap." And I'm like, "Well, we should wait a minute or two to see if anybody else comes in." And then no one came in. I'm like, "Well, all right." And so I did a presentation to two people talking about funnels. And then two hours later, the next group was supposed to come in, like one person came. The next group, three people came in. So that day I was expecting to teach a bunch of people about funnels, but nobody cared. But guess what? I didn't care because I loved it. I was obsessed about it. I was passionate about it. So I talked about it, I talked to about it, I talked about it even though nobody was there. Then I did another event and guess what? Nobody showed up. I did another event and very few people showed up. I did another one and another one and another one, and I did it because I care about the topic, because I'm obsessed with it. I did it because I loved it, and I would've done it even if nobody ever showed up. Now, guess what? Because I love about it so much and I kept doing it and kept doing it, this is the heart stuff. I kept doing it and kept doing it and kept doing it, eventually other people started getting excited. Other people started seeing the vision. Other people started showing up. And now 18 years later, you go to Funnel Hacking LIVE and there's 6,000 crazy people in the stands who are all obsessed with funnels like, "Oh Russell, you're a genius. You picked the greatest market ever." No, I picked a market that was not there, but I was obsessed about it and I cared about it. And so for you... What's his name? John? Brent: Yeah. Russell: If you're excited, if you're passionate about that, don't... If you're going to say, "What's going to make me the most money the fasted?" Don't go that way. Look at like, what do I actually care about? Funnels are not making me the most money the fastest by any stretch, but it was my art. It's what I cared about, it's what I wanted to do all day. All I wanted to do all day is talk about funnels. And there was no market. Nobody cared about it, but I kept talking and kept talking until people cared about it. And that's what we have to do, especially on the expert side. If you're excited by it, this is your art, this is how you're called to change the world... Like your people might not be ready for you, but you might not be ready either. Most people who came to my event 18 years ago in the Holiday Inn in Boise, Idaho with the two other people you'd have been like, "That guy has no idea what he was talking about," right? Because I didn't understand my framework, so I didn't know how to talk. I was awkward. I was nervous. I was all the things. I wasn't ready either, but I would never become ready if I didn't start. And I kept talking about, I kept talking about. So this is the heart stuff. If you love this, if this is your art, this is your passion, this is your mission, you've got to go out there and start doing it. Start talking today. That's why I always tell of people, if you want to do this, start publishing somewhere. It can be a blog or a podcast or a video, just doing something, because a couple things will happen. Number one, you're going to feel awkward when you first start because you're like, "Oh, nobody's even listening." And the good news is that at the very beginning, you're probably going to suck, and so it's good news that nobody's listening, okay? But if you keep doing it consistently, eventually you're actually going to get good. And the longer you do it, the longer your dream clients, the people you've been called to serve, will have to actually find you. In Traffic Secrets, I'll probably mess up the quote, but Nathan Barry wrote a blog post and I quoted it in the Traffic Secrets book, but it was called endure long enough to get noticed. In the blog post he talked about how most of us... There's so much content between Netflix and Disney blog, all the shows. There's so much content happening that most of us don't jump on the new show. We wait for season one, season two, season three. If after season three or four people are still talking about it, then we're like, "Okay, I'm going to go dive into this thing because it's endured long enough to get noticed." And the biggest thing is true for us as well. At first, no one's going to pay attention. But you keep doing it, you keep doing it. And if you are willing to out survive it because you're so passionate about your art, and you keep doing it, and you keep doing it, and you endure long enough, then your people have a chance to find you. So that's the key. Don't do the practical thing like, "Oh, I'm going to go get a doctor's degree," or whatever. Do the heart thing, but don't do it because I'm trying to start a business right now. Do it because you are actually called, because you love the people, because you want to change their lives. And if you keep doing it, and you're passionate, and keep talking about it, eventually they'll come. But you’ve got to double down. Alison Prince: Can I ask you a question? Do you think your passion helped you to get through the hard days, to help you to keep showing up, versus let's say you are an accountant. You're like, "Oh, I got to show up again." Do you think showing up from your heart versus your head helps you to get through the harder times? Russell: 100%. Your head... Yeah, yeah. Because for me, again, it wasn't... I think you're the same way. Whether you made money on this or not, you're here to serve people because you love this. You change your life. You want to change... That's the biggest thing is the heart is like it doesn't matter if it succeeds or it fails. Some days we have big sales days. Some days we have no sales days. But we keep showing up because this is my calling. This is something that I believe in. I'm so passionate about it. Even if somebody doesn't buy something, but they hear something that gives them that shift, that means the world to me. But if it's in your head, maybe you'd make more money in the short term, but in the long term... The legacy flows through our VIPs... I did a private session to you guys yesterday morning talking about our Super Bowl goals and things like that. You want to hit what is your Hall of Fame goal? It's going to be hard to hit up here. It's going to be coming from here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000 How To Choose Between Head And Heart full 490 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell and Alison answer another question from the recent “Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown”.  Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey everybody, this is Russell... Russell and Alison answer another question from the recent “Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown”.  Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm back with some more Q&As from the e-com expert SmackDown that Alison Prince and I did last week, and this next question was a really fun one. The question they asked was, as they're pursuing their business, how do they choose between their head and their heart? This person asked a question, their heart had an idea and a passionate thing they wanted to do, but they didn't know if they saw the clear path. How is it was going to make money? How is it going to do all these things versus their head. Oh, there's other ways I can do this that are very numbers based. I can make money faster and all those things. The question was, how do I choose between my head and my heart? So I think it's something a lot of us struggle with because all of us have these missions, right? We're called on this mission. Then part of it's like, oh, I got to make a bunch of money. And the yin yang between that, and how do you figure it out, and what do you do, and which one do you follow? Do you follow your head or your heart? So I think that this question was very relevant and timely for most of us, and hopefully for you, and hopefully my answers and what Alison and I give back will be useful for you as well. So that said, we're going to queue up the theme song when we get back. You have a chance to answer this question. How do you choose between your head and your heart? Brent Coppieters: This is from John. He says, "How do I choose between my head and my heart? My heart tells me that I should pursue one direction, vision, and path. And this feels like my calling from God to empower men, in particular husbands, to overcome destructive, addictive behaviors. But my head says that I should pick a more practical direction, a product or some other safe bet. How do I go all in and follow my heart when self-doubt and fear are so strong?" Russell: People look at my business today and they're like, "Oh, Russell, you picked such a good market. You picked funnels." And, of course, that's the big thing. This is amazing. But I want to rewind back 18 years ago. 18 years ago I started learning about this and I was like, "This is the greatest thing in the world!" And I started telling everybody. I told my mom about it, my friends about it, my family about it, and they're like, "Oh, he's crazy," right? And I was like, "None of my friends want to know about this. I gotta tell someone about it. So Brent was here for this. I literally bought radio ads in Boise, Idaho saying, "I'm doing an event talking about marketing and sales funnels, and how you can grow a business online. Dah, dah, dah, dah." I ran radio ads because I was so excited about this topic. And guess what? We got a dozen people who responded to radio ads. Like sweet, rented a Holiday Inn. We got things set up. I got there. I had a presentation. I had my shirt and tie on. I was all ready. People showed up for the event. The first event was supposed to have, I don't know, 50-60 people that had RSVPd from the radio ad. Two people walked in and I was like, "Oh, crap." And I'm like, "Well, we should wait a minute or two to see if anybody else comes in." And then no one came in. I'm like, "Well, all right." And so I did a presentation to two people talking about funnels. And then two hours later, the next group was supposed to come in, like one person came. The next group, three people came in. So that day I was expecting to teach a bunch of people about funnels, but nobody cared. But guess what? I didn't care because I loved it. I was obsessed about it. I was passionate about it. So I talked about it, I talked to about it, I talked about it even though nobody was there. Then I did another event and guess what? Nobody showed up. I did another event and very few people showed up. I did another one and another one and another one, and I did it because I care about the topic, because I'm obsessed with it. I did it because I loved it, and I would've done it even if nobody ever showed up. Now, guess what? Because I love about it so much and I kept doing it and kept doing it, this is the heart stuff. I kept doing it and kept doing it and kept doing it, eventually other people started getting excited. Other people started seeing the vision. Other people started showing up. And now 18 years later, you go to Funnel Hacking LIVE and there's 6,000 crazy people in the stands who are all obsessed with funnels like, "Oh Russell, you're a genius. You picked the greatest market ever." No, I picked a market that was not there, but I was obsessed about it and I cared about it. And so for you... What's his name? John? Brent: Yeah. Russell: If you're excited, if you're passionate about that, don't... If you're going to say, "What's going to make me the most money the fasted?" Don't go that way. Look at like, what do I actually care about? Funnels are not making me the most money the fastest by any stretch, but it was my art. It's what I cared about, it's what I wanted to do all day. All I wanted to do all day is talk about funnels. And there was no market. Nobody cared about it, but I kept talking and kept talking until people cared about it. And that's what we have to do, especially on the expert side. If you're excited by it, this is your art, this is how you're called to change the world... Like your people might not be ready for you, but you might not be ready either. Most people who came to my event 18 years ago in the Holiday Inn in Boise, Idaho with the two other people you'd have been like, "That guy has no idea what he was talking about," right? Because I didn't understand my framework, so I didn't know how to talk. I was awkward. I was nervous. I was all the things. I wasn't ready either, but I would never become ready if I didn't start. And I kept talking about, I kept talking about. So this is the heart stuff. If you love this, if this is your art, this is your passion, this is your mission, you've got to go out there and start doing it. Start talking today. That's why I always tell of people, if you want to do this, start publishing somewhere. It can be a blog or a podcast or a video, just doing something, because a couple things will happen. Number one, you're going to feel awkward when you first start because you're like, "Oh, nobody's even listening." And the good news is that at the very beginning, you're probably going to suck, and so it's good news that nobody's listening, okay? But if you keep doing it consistently, eventually you're actually going to get good. And the longer you do it, the longer your dream clients, the people you've been called to serve, will have to actually find you. In Traffic Secrets, I'll probably mess up the quote, but Nathan Barry wrote a blog post and I quoted it in the Traffic Secrets book, but it was called endure long enough to get noticed. In the blog post he talked about how most of us... There's so much content between Netflix and Disney blog, all the shows. There's so much content happening that most of us don't jump on the new show. We wait for season one, season two, season three. If after season three or four people are still talking about it, then we're like, "Okay, I'm going to go dive into this thing because it's endured long enough to get noticed." And the biggest thing is true for us as well. At first, no one's going to pay attention. But you keep doing it, you keep doing it. And if you are willing to out survive it because you're so passionate about your art, and you keep doing it, and you keep doing it, and you endure long enough, then your people have a chance to find you. So that's the key. Don't do the practical thing like, "Oh, I'm going to go get a doctor's degree," or whatever. Do the heart thing, but don't do it because I'm trying to start a business right now. Do it because you are actually called, because you love the people, because you want to change their lives. And if you keep doing it, and you're passionate, and keep talking about it, eventually they'll come. But you’ve got to double down. Alison Prince: Can I ask you a question? Do you think your passion helped you to get through the hard days, to help you to keep showing up, versus let's say you are an accountant. You're like, "Oh, I got to show up again." Do you think showing up from your heart versus your head helps you to get through the harder times? Russell: 100%. Your head... Yeah, yeah. Because for me, again, it wasn't... I think you're the same way. Whether you made money on this or not, you're here to serve people because you love this. You change your life. You want to change... That's the biggest thing is the heart is like it doesn't matter if it succeeds or it fails. Some days we have big sales days. Some days we have no sales days. But we keep showing up because this is my calling. This is something that I believe in. I'm so passionate about it. Even if somebody doesn't buy something, but they hear something that gives them that shift, that means the world to me. But if it's in your head, maybe you'd make more money in the short term, but in the long term... The legacy flows through our VIPs... I did a private session to you guys yesterday morning talking about our Super Bowl goals and things like that. You want to hit what is your Hall of Fame goal? It's going to be hard to hit up here. It's going to be coming from here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell and Alison answer another question from the recent “Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown”. 

Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing

---Transcript---

Russell Brunson:

Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm back with some more Q&As from the e-com expert SmackDown that Alison Prince and I did last week, and this next question was a really fun one. The question they asked was, as they're pursuing their business, how do they choose between their head and their heart? This person asked a question, their heart had an idea and a passionate thing they wanted to do, but they didn't know if they saw the clear path. How is it was going to make money? How is it going to do all these things versus their head. Oh, there's other ways I can do this that are very numbers based. I can make money faster and all those things. The question was, how do I choose between my head and my heart?

So I think it's something a lot of us struggle with because all of us have these missions, right? We're called on this mission. Then part of it's like, oh, I got to make a bunch of money. And the yin yang between that, and how do you figure it out, and what do you do, and which one do you follow? Do you follow your head or your heart? So I think that this question was very relevant and timely for most of us, and hopefully for you, and hopefully my answers and what Alison and I give back will be useful for you as well. So that said, we're going to queue up the theme song when we get back. You have a chance to answer this question. How do you choose between your head and your heart?

Brent Coppieters:

This is from John. He says, "How do I choose between my head and my heart? My heart tells me that I should pursue one direction, vision, and path. And this feels like my calling from God to empower men, in particular husbands, to overcome destructive, addictive behaviors. But my head says that I should pick a more practical direction, a product or some other safe bet. How do I go all in and follow my heart when self-doubt and fear are so strong?"

Russell:

People look at my business today and they're like, "Oh, Russell, you picked such a good market. You picked funnels." And, of course, that's the big thing. This is amazing. But I want to rewind back 18 years ago. 18 years ago I started learning about this and I was like, "This is the greatest thing in the world!" And I started telling everybody. I told my mom about it, my friends about it, my family about it, and they're like, "Oh, he's crazy," right? And I was like, "None of my friends want to know about this. I gotta tell someone about it. So Brent was here for this. I literally bought radio ads in Boise, Idaho saying, "I'm doing an event talking about marketing and sales funnels, and how you can grow a business online. Dah, dah, dah, dah." I ran radio ads because I was so excited about this topic. And guess what? We got a dozen people who responded to radio ads.

Like sweet, rented a Holiday Inn. We got things set up. I got there. I had a presentation. I had my shirt and tie on. I was all ready. People showed up for the event. The first event was supposed to have, I don't know, 50-60 people that had RSVPd from the radio ad. Two people walked in and I was like, "Oh, crap." And I'm like, "Well, we should wait a minute or two to see if anybody else comes in." And then no one came in. I'm like, "Well, all right." And so I did a presentation to two people talking about funnels. And then two hours later, the next group was supposed to come in, like one person came. The next group, three people came in. So that day I was expecting to teach a bunch of people about funnels, but nobody cared.

But guess what? I didn't care because I loved it. I was obsessed about it. I was passionate about it. So I talked about it, I talked to about it, I talked about it even though nobody was there. Then I did another event and guess what? Nobody showed up. I did another event and very few people showed up. I did another one and another one and another one, and I did it because I care about the topic, because I'm obsessed with it. I did it because I loved it, and I would've done it even if nobody ever showed up. Now, guess what? Because I love about it so much and I kept doing it and kept doing it, this is the heart stuff. I kept doing it and kept doing it and kept doing it, eventually other people started getting excited. Other people started seeing the vision. Other people started showing up. And now 18 years later, you go to Funnel Hacking LIVE and there's 6,000 crazy people in the stands who are all obsessed with funnels like, "Oh Russell, you're a genius. You picked the greatest market ever." No, I picked a market that was not there, but I was obsessed about it and I cared about it. And so for you... What's his name? John?

Brent:

Yeah.

Russell:

If you're excited, if you're passionate about that, don't... If you're going to say, "What's going to make me the most money the fasted?" Don't go that way. Look at like, what do I actually care about? Funnels are not making me the most money the fastest by any stretch, but it was my art. It's what I cared about, it's what I wanted to do all day. All I wanted to do all day is talk about funnels. And there was no market. Nobody cared about it, but I kept talking and kept talking until people cared about it. And that's what we have to do, especially on the expert side.

If you're excited by it, this is your art, this is how you're called to change the world... Like your people might not be ready for you, but you might not be ready either. Most people who came to my event 18 years ago in the Holiday Inn in Boise, Idaho with the two other people you'd have been like, "That guy has no idea what he was talking about," right? Because I didn't understand my framework, so I didn't know how to talk. I was awkward. I was nervous. I was all the things. I wasn't ready either, but I would never become ready if I didn't start. And I kept talking about, I kept talking about. So this is the heart stuff. If you love this, if this is your art, this is your passion, this is your mission, you've got to go out there and start doing it. Start talking today.

That's why I always tell of people, if you want to do this, start publishing somewhere. It can be a blog or a podcast or a video, just doing something, because a couple things will happen. Number one, you're going to feel awkward when you first start because you're like, "Oh, nobody's even listening." And the good news is that at the very beginning, you're probably going to suck, and so it's good news that nobody's listening, okay? But if you keep doing it consistently, eventually you're actually going to get good. And the longer you do it, the longer your dream clients, the people you've been called to serve, will have to actually find you.

In Traffic Secrets, I'll probably mess up the quote, but Nathan Barry wrote a blog post and I quoted it in the Traffic Secrets book, but it was called endure long enough to get noticed. In the blog post he talked about how most of us... There's so much content between Netflix and Disney blog, all the shows. There's so much content happening that most of us don't jump on the new show. We wait for season one, season two, season three. If after season three or four people are still talking about it, then we're like, "Okay, I'm going to go dive into this thing because it's endured long enough to get noticed."

And the biggest thing is true for us as well. At first, no one's going to pay attention. But you keep doing it, you keep doing it. And if you are willing to out survive it because you're so passionate about your art, and you keep doing it, and you keep doing it, and you endure long enough, then your people have a chance to find you. So that's the key. Don't do the practical thing like, "Oh, I'm going to go get a doctor's degree," or whatever. Do the heart thing, but don't do it because I'm trying to start a business right now. Do it because you are actually called, because you love the people, because you want to change their lives. And if you keep doing it, and you're passionate, and keep talking about it, eventually they'll come. But you’ve got to double down.

Alison Prince:

Can I ask you a question? Do you think your passion helped you to get through the hard days, to help you to keep showing up, versus let's say you are an accountant. You're like, "Oh, I got to show up again." Do you think showing up from your heart versus your head helps you to get through the harder times?

Russell:

100%. Your head... Yeah, yeah. Because for me, again, it wasn't... I think you're the same way. Whether you made money on this or not, you're here to serve people because you love this. You change your life. You want to change... That's the biggest thing is the heart is like it doesn't matter if it succeeds or it fails. Some days we have big sales days. Some days we have no sales days. But we keep showing up because this is my calling. This is something that I believe in. I'm so passionate about it. Even if somebody doesn't buy something, but they hear something that gives them that shift, that means the world to me. But if it's in your head, maybe you'd make more money in the short term, but in the long term... The legacy flows through our VIPs... I did a private session to you guys yesterday morning talking about our Super Bowl goals and things like that. You want to hit what is your Hall of Fame goal? It's going to be hard to hit up here. It's going to be coming from here.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 533 no Question: Imposter Syndrome? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/question-imposter-syndrome In the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, a question about imposter syndrome was posed by Ben Moote. Russell Brunson introduces the Q&A segment from the event on his Marketing Secrets podcast, highlighting the relevance of the topic for everyone in their career journey. Ben shares his struggle with imposter syndrome, expressing how deeply ingrained beliefs of scarcity and unworthiness have affected his opportunities and relationships. He seeks advice on overcoming this negativity to move forward. Russell responds by acknowledging his own experiences with imposter syndrome, revealing that he still faces it despite his success. He emphasizes the importance of shifting focus from oneself to serving others. Russell shares his personal coping mechanism of prayer and focusing on the audience's needs rather than his own insecurities. Alison Prince recounts her initial fear of public speaking and how she visualizes passing her fear to someone else, like Russell, before going on stage. She shares how this technique has helped her overcome her nerves. Russell adds that having support systems like momentum coaches can be crucial in dealing with imposter syndrome and other limiting beliefs. These coaches provide guidance and help entrepreneurs navigate their challenges. Alison underscores the value of momentum coaches in providing support and guidance tailored to entrepreneurs' needs. She shares her gratitude for the opportunity to work with individuals who are willing to take risks and make positive changes in their lives. The conversation highlights the ongoing nature of personal growth and the importance of having support systems in place to navigate challenges and achieve success in entrepreneurship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 02 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000 Question: Imposter Syndrome? full 489 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Q&A from the recent “Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown”. Ben Moote asked a question about imposter syndrome. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Good morning,... In the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, a question about imposter syndrome was posed by Ben Moote. Russell Brunson introduces the Q&A segment from the event on his Marketing Secrets podcast, highlighting the relevance of the topic for everyone in their career journey. Ben shares his struggle with imposter syndrome, expressing how deeply ingrained beliefs of scarcity and unworthiness have affected his opportunities and relationships. He seeks advice on overcoming this negativity to move forward. Russell responds by acknowledging his own experiences with imposter syndrome, revealing that he still faces it despite his success. He emphasizes the importance of shifting focus from oneself to serving others. Russell shares his personal coping mechanism of prayer and focusing on the audience's needs rather than his own insecurities. Alison Prince recounts her initial fear of public speaking and how she visualizes passing her fear to someone else, like Russell, before going on stage. She shares how this technique has helped her overcome her nerves. Russell adds that having support systems like momentum coaches can be crucial in dealing with imposter syndrome and other limiting beliefs. These coaches provide guidance and help entrepreneurs navigate their challenges. Alison underscores the value of momentum coaches in providing support and guidance tailored to entrepreneurs' needs. She shares her gratitude for the opportunity to work with individuals who are willing to take risks and make positive changes in their lives. The conversation highlights the ongoing nature of personal growth and the importance of having support systems in place to navigate challenges and achieve success in entrepreneurship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In the recent "Ecomm Vs Expert Smackdown" event, a question about imposter syndrome was posed by Ben Moote. Russell Brunson introduces the Q&A segment from the event on his Marketing Secrets podcast, highlighting the relevance of the topic for everyone in their career journey.


Ben shares his struggle with imposter syndrome, expressing how deeply ingrained beliefs of scarcity and unworthiness have affected his opportunities and relationships. He seeks advice on overcoming this negativity to move forward.


Russell responds by acknowledging his own experiences with imposter syndrome, revealing that he still faces it despite his success. He emphasizes the importance of shifting focus from oneself to serving others. Russell shares his personal coping mechanism of prayer and focusing on the audience's needs rather than his own insecurities.


Alison Prince recounts her initial fear of public speaking and how she visualizes passing her fear to someone else, like Russell, before going on stage. She shares how this technique has helped her overcome her nerves.


Russell adds that having support systems like momentum coaches can be crucial in dealing with imposter syndrome and other limiting beliefs. These coaches provide guidance and help entrepreneurs navigate their challenges.


Alison underscores the value of momentum coaches in providing support and guidance tailored to entrepreneurs' needs. She shares her gratitude for the opportunity to work with individuals who are willing to take risks and make positive changes in their lives.


The conversation highlights the ongoing nature of personal growth and the importance of having support systems in place to navigate challenges and achieve success in entrepreneurship.

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]]> 868 no Is It Okay To Pursue Worldly Goals? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/is-it-okay-to-pursue-worldly-goals In a recent episode of his podcast, Russell Brunson discusses the pursuit of worldly goals and shares a powerful message he received from Brooke Castillo on the topic. Russell begins by introducing Brooke Castillo, an entrepreneur who has built a successful coaching business. He highlights her impact in certifying coaches and praises the quality of individuals who go through her program. He then delves into the topic of pursuing worldly goals, acknowledging the challenges associated with it, especially within certain cultural and religious contexts. Russell reflects on his own journey and how hiring a coach helped him align his business goals with his spiritual mission. Russell shares Brooke's message, emphasizing the importance of worldly goals in personal evolution. He highlights how setting ambitious goals requires overcoming self-doubt, fear, and societal pressures, ultimately leading to personal growth. Brooke's message underscores the idea that individuals are inherently worthy and capable of pursuing their desires. She encourages embracing discomfort as a sign of progress and emphasizes the significance of pursuing big goals. Russell relates this message to biblical teachings, particularly the parable of the talents, which illustrates the importance of utilizing one's gifts and talents to their fullest potential. He concludes by affirming that individuals are called to pursue greatness, even if they feel unworthy or unprepared. Russell encourages listeners to step into their potential and embrace their desires, acknowledging that the journey of personal growth is ongoing. Overall, Russell's discussion highlights the transformative power of pursuing worldly goals and the importance of aligning personal aspirations with one's spiritual journey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000 Is It Okay To Pursue Worldly Goals? full 488 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I got a really cool message from Brooke Castillo about why many people are scared to pursue business and other worldly goals. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, good morning... In a recent episode of his podcast, Russell Brunson discusses the pursuit of worldly goals and shares a powerful message he received from Brooke Castillo on the topic. Russell begins by introducing Brooke Castillo, an entrepreneur who has built a successful coaching business. He highlights her impact in certifying coaches and praises the quality of individuals who go through her program. He then delves into the topic of pursuing worldly goals, acknowledging the challenges associated with it, especially within certain cultural and religious contexts. Russell reflects on his own journey and how hiring a coach helped him align his business goals with his spiritual mission. Russell shares Brooke's message, emphasizing the importance of worldly goals in personal evolution. He highlights how setting ambitious goals requires overcoming self-doubt, fear, and societal pressures, ultimately leading to personal growth. Brooke's message underscores the idea that individuals are inherently worthy and capable of pursuing their desires. She encourages embracing discomfort as a sign of progress and emphasizes the significance of pursuing big goals. Russell relates this message to biblical teachings, particularly the parable of the talents, which illustrates the importance of utilizing one's gifts and talents to their fullest potential. He concludes by affirming that individuals are called to pursue greatness, even if they feel unworthy or unprepared. Russell encourages listeners to step into their potential and embrace their desires, acknowledging that the journey of personal growth is ongoing. Overall, Russell's discussion highlights the transformative power of pursuing worldly goals and the importance of aligning personal aspirations with one's spiritual journey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In a recent episode of his podcast, Russell Brunson discusses the pursuit of worldly goals and shares a powerful message he received from Brooke Castillo on the topic.


Russell begins by introducing Brooke Castillo, an entrepreneur who has built a successful coaching business. He highlights her impact in certifying coaches and praises the quality of individuals who go through her program.


He then delves into the topic of pursuing worldly goals, acknowledging the challenges associated with it, especially within certain cultural and religious contexts. Russell reflects on his own journey and how hiring a coach helped him align his business goals with his spiritual mission.


Russell shares Brooke's message, emphasizing the importance of worldly goals in personal evolution. He highlights how setting ambitious goals requires overcoming self-doubt, fear, and societal pressures, ultimately leading to personal growth.


Brooke's message underscores the idea that individuals are inherently worthy and capable of pursuing their desires. She encourages embracing discomfort as a sign of progress and emphasizes the significance of pursuing big goals.


Russell relates this message to biblical teachings, particularly the parable of the talents, which illustrates the importance of utilizing one's gifts and talents to their fullest potential.


He concludes by affirming that individuals are called to pursue greatness, even if they feel unworthy or unprepared. Russell encourages listeners to step into their potential and embrace their desires, acknowledging that the journey of personal growth is ongoing.


Overall, Russell's discussion highlights the transformative power of pursuing worldly goals and the importance of aligning personal aspirations with one's spiritual journey.

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]]> 654 no Hall of Fame, Super Bowl, Growth and Contribution https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/hall-of-fame-super-bowl-growth-and-contribution This episode Russell dives deeper into goal setting, which goals to pick, why to pick them, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell's podcast episode is packed with valuable insights on setting and achieving goals. He breaks it down into two main concepts: the Hall of Fame goal and the Super Bowl goal. The Hall of Fame goal is like a long-term vision, reflecting who you want to become and be remembered as. Russell emphasizes the importance of identifying role models or mentors whose characteristics you admire and aspire to embody. By setting this overarching goal, you establish a direction for your personal growth and contribution to others. On the other hand, the Super Bowl goal is more tangible and time-bound. It's about achieving specific milestones or accomplishments that contribute to your overall vision. Russell suggests applying the concept of definiteness of purpose to these goals, meaning having a clear and specific plan to achieve them. Throughout the episode, Russell emphasizes the importance of having a definite purpose, whether it's in personal growth, business, or contribution to others. He also touches on the significance of understanding and meeting your basic needs, as outlined by Tony Robbins' six human needs framework, before focusing on growth and contribution. Overall, Russell encourages listeners to think deeply about their goals, both in terms of who they want to become and what they want to achieve, and to approach goal-setting with clarity, purpose, and a strategic plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000 Hall of Fame, Super Bowl, Growth and Contribution full 487 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This episode Russell dives deeper into goal setting, which goals to pick, why to pick them, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up... This episode Russell dives deeper into goal setting, which goals to pick, why to pick them, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell's podcast episode is packed with valuable insights on setting and achieving goals. He breaks it down into two main concepts: the Hall of Fame goal and the Super Bowl goal. The Hall of Fame goal is like a long-term vision, reflecting who you want to become and be remembered as. Russell emphasizes the importance of identifying role models or mentors whose characteristics you admire and aspire to embody. By setting this overarching goal, you establish a direction for your personal growth and contribution to others. On the other hand, the Super Bowl goal is more tangible and time-bound. It's about achieving specific milestones or accomplishments that contribute to your overall vision. Russell suggests applying the concept of definiteness of purpose to these goals, meaning having a clear and specific plan to achieve them. Throughout the episode, Russell emphasizes the importance of having a definite purpose, whether it's in personal growth, business, or contribution to others. He also touches on the significance of understanding and meeting your basic needs, as outlined by Tony Robbins' six human needs framework, before focusing on growth and contribution. Overall, Russell encourages listeners to think deeply about their goals, both in terms of who they want to become and what they want to achieve, and to approach goal-setting with clarity, purpose, and a strategic plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode Russell dives deeper into goal setting, which goals to pick, why to pick them, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff.

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---Transcript---

Russell's podcast episode is packed with valuable insights on setting and achieving goals. He breaks it down into two main concepts: the Hall of Fame goal and the Super Bowl goal.


The Hall of Fame goal is like a long-term vision, reflecting who you want to become and be remembered as. Russell emphasizes the importance of identifying role models or mentors whose characteristics you admire and aspire to embody. By setting this overarching goal, you establish a direction for your personal growth and contribution to others.


On the other hand, the Super Bowl goal is more tangible and time-bound. It's about achieving specific milestones or accomplishments that contribute to your overall vision. Russell suggests applying the concept of definiteness of purpose to these goals, meaning having a clear and specific plan to achieve them.


Throughout the episode, Russell emphasizes the importance of having a definite purpose, whether it's in personal growth, business, or contribution to others. He also touches on the significance of understanding and meeting your basic needs, as outlined by Tony Robbins' six human needs framework, before focusing on growth and contribution.


Overall, Russell encourages listeners to think deeply about their goals, both in terms of who they want to become and what they want to achieve, and to approach goal-setting with clarity, purpose, and a strategic plan.

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]]> 1170 no Parables Of The Batman https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/parables-of-the-batman Check out this fax that Dan Kennedy sent to his Diamond Members talking about Batman, success, and a whole bunch of other really cool things. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everyone? This is Russell Brunson and I'm excited. Today's episode is going to be a little bit different. Right now, I'm working on a project with Dan Kennedy. And for years, he used to send a weekly fax to his diamond members. And right now, we're putting all of those into a book. And there's a bunch of cool things happening with it. It's insane. But one of the faxes, I just stumbled upon it and the title caught me. I had to read it. And then it was so good, I wanted to read it to you. So the title of this fax from Dan Kennedy is called, Parables of The Batman. All right, so like I said, I'm working on this project with Dan Kennedy. We're putting together all his faxes. People used to pay $297 a month to be a diamond member. They still do, actually. Sorry. And in that program for the five, or six, or seven-year period of time, Dan would send them a weekly fax. And I found in the archives all these faxes. They're insanely cool. Dan's thoughts on whatever he was thinking about that week, it was literally fun. And so we're actually putting them together into a book that eventually, we'll be giving to all diamond members. So if you want more of these, you need to upgrade to become a magnetic marketing diamond member here in the future. That'll be the bribe, is giving everyone this book of all of Dan's faxes from a seven-year window. But anyway, as I'm going through the book, I found this one. Obviously, you guys know I'm a superhero fan. I'm a Batman fan. I'm all the things. And so this fax, as I was scrolling through the book before we sent it out to print, the title of this fax was called, Parables of The Batman. And so, of course, I had to read it. And it was so cool, I wanted to read it to you, too. So here we go. This is in Dan's words from his fax. He said, "I finally got around to watching The Dark Knight Rises, the third, final and only disappointing film in the trilogy produced by Christopher Nolan. In it, there is a hell-hole of a prison deep beneath the earth's surface, featuring the ultimate cruelty, impossible hope. There's a tall tower carved out of the rock, rising several stories to the surface. Blue skies visible when standing at its bottom, looking straight up. Prisoners are free to attempt climbing up and out. And they do from time to time, with a rope tied around their waist to catch them bungee-style before they fall to their death. There's a legend known to all the suffering prisoners passed from one generation to the next about the only person who ever succeeded at this escape, a child." "It is in this subterraneal hell that a crippled Batman, i.e., Bruce Wayne, has been left to die. After a brutally-difficult, primitive-managed rehab, he attempts and fails in this escape. Not once, but twice. At point of surrender, an aged prisoner, who has befriended him, tells him the secret of the child who did successfully clamor up the entire tower and escaped. The child climbed without the rope. The weight of the rope, more the embedded thought created by wearing the rope, that one is going to fall is just enough burden to ensure failure. The old man says that to have a chance you must climb without the rope. This is a remarkable success parable buried deep in the film that few will notice." "Most people try to achieve various lofty ambitions, perhaps the greatest of which is freedom and autonomy, while still dragging contrary conventions, industry norms, counterproductive beliefs, slothful behaviors, et cetera, tied to them by a heavy rope. The higher they try to climb, the heavier the burden of the rope. I first taught this in the early 1980s as a simplified cycle cybernetic concept, in terms of the importance of a bountiful garden and pulling weeds, not just planting flowers. I'm often asked that, to be super successful must I lose my friends? If your friends are unambitious, or delusional, or toxic, then yes, they must be left behind. You must sever your ties to all the ordinary ideas, and behaviors, and business practices of the masses, of the majorities. You must climb without the rope." "The Batman himself is a parable. He is unlike most other costumed superheroes. As I pointed out before, Superman is an alien from outer space and that is the source of his superhuman powers. Spider-Man was bitten by a radioactive spider, et cetera. Most superheroes come from a distant planet and are gifted powers by unworldly beings, the Green Lantern, for example, or science experiments gone wrong or accidents like spideys. Few have no superpowers at all, but simply decided to make themselves into superheroes. The Batman is a creature entirely of Bruce Wayne's decision. If the genealogy of such things interests you, the predecessor closest is the Shadow. Further, The Batman made himself into a master detective and an extraordinary athlete, martial artist, fighter and an intimidating personality." "Anyway, there's probably a rope tied around your waist. Perhaps thinned by use, skinny as twine. Perhaps thicker and heavier than the huge rope tied to the steamship's anchors. You might want to pull on it and examine all that's tied to the other end. Shedding dead weight eases the speed of the journey. Oh, and the heaviest dead weights are never things or people. They are thoughts and beliefs." Oh man, you got Dan Kennedy talking about Batman, and superheroes, and personal development. What more could you want? All in one amazing fax. So any of you guys who eventually, someday get the Dan Kennedy fax book, The Batman fax is on page number 79. Hope you guys enjoyed this one. And I'm going to keep bringing you guys cool stuff I learn from Dan. Thanks, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000 Parables Of The Batman full 486 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Check out this fax that Dan Kennedy sent to his Diamond Members talking about Batman, success, and a whole bunch of other really cool things. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey,... Check out this fax that Dan Kennedy sent to his Diamond Members talking about Batman, success, and a whole bunch of other really cool things. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everyone? This is Russell Brunson and I'm excited. Today's episode is going to be a little bit different. Right now, I'm working on a project with Dan Kennedy. And for years, he used to send a weekly fax to his diamond members. And right now, we're putting all of those into a book. And there's a bunch of cool things happening with it. It's insane. But one of the faxes, I just stumbled upon it and the title caught me. I had to read it. And then it was so good, I wanted to read it to you. So the title of this fax from Dan Kennedy is called, Parables of The Batman. All right, so like I said, I'm working on this project with Dan Kennedy. We're putting together all his faxes. People used to pay $297 a month to be a diamond member. They still do, actually. Sorry. And in that program for the five, or six, or seven-year period of time, Dan would send them a weekly fax. And I found in the archives all these faxes. They're insanely cool. Dan's thoughts on whatever he was thinking about that week, it was literally fun. And so we're actually putting them together into a book that eventually, we'll be giving to all diamond members. So if you want more of these, you need to upgrade to become a magnetic marketing diamond member here in the future. That'll be the bribe, is giving everyone this book of all of Dan's faxes from a seven-year window. But anyway, as I'm going through the book, I found this one. Obviously, you guys know I'm a superhero fan. I'm a Batman fan. I'm all the things. And so this fax, as I was scrolling through the book before we sent it out to print, the title of this fax was called, Parables of The Batman. And so, of course, I had to read it. And it was so cool, I wanted to read it to you, too. So here we go. This is in Dan's words from his fax. He said, "I finally got around to watching The Dark Knight Rises, the third, final and only disappointing film in the trilogy produced by Christopher Nolan. In it, there is a hell-hole of a prison deep beneath the earth's surface, featuring the ultimate cruelty, impossible hope. There's a tall tower carved out of the rock, rising several stories to the surface. Blue skies visible when standing at its bottom, looking straight up. Prisoners are free to attempt climbing up and out. And they do from time to time, with a rope tied around their waist to catch them bungee-style before they fall to their death. There's a legend known to all the suffering prisoners passed from one generation to the next about the only person who ever succeeded at this escape, a child." "It is in this subterraneal hell that a crippled Batman, i.e., Bruce Wayne, has been left to die. After a brutally-difficult, primitive-managed rehab, he attempts and fails in this escape. Not once, but twice. At point of surrender, an aged prisoner, who has befriended him, tells him the secret of the child who did successfully clamor up the entire tower and escaped. The child climbed without the rope. The weight of the rope, more the embedded thought created by wearing the rope, that one is going to fall is just enough burden to ensure failure. The old man says that to have a chance you must climb without the rope. This is a remarkable success parable buried deep in the film that few will notice." "Most people try to achieve various lofty ambitions, perhaps the greatest of which is freedom and autonomy, while still dragging contrary conventions, industry norms, counterproductive beliefs, slothful behaviors, et cetera, tied to them by a heavy rope. The higher they try to climb, the heavier the burden of the rope. I first taught this in the early 1980s as a simplified cycle cybernetic concept, in terms of the importance of a bountiful garden and pulling weeds, not just planting flowers. I'm often asked that, to be super successful must I lose my friends? If your friends are unambitious, or delusional, or toxic, then yes, they must be left behind. You must sever your ties to all the ordinary ideas, and behaviors, and business practices of the masses, of the majorities. You must climb without the rope." "The Batman himself is a parable. He is unlike most other costumed superheroes. As I pointed out before, Superman is an alien from outer space and that is the source of his superhuman powers. Spider-Man was bitten by a radioactive spider, et cetera. Most superheroes come from a distant planet and are gifted powers by unworldly beings, the Green Lantern, for example, or science experiments gone wrong or accidents like spideys. Few have no superpowers at all, but simply decided to make themselves into superheroes. The Batman is a creature entirely of Bruce Wayne's decision. If the genealogy of such things interests you, the predecessor closest is the Shadow. Further, The Batman made himself into a master detective and an extraordinary athlete, martial artist, fighter and an intimidating personality." "Anyway, there's probably a rope tied around your waist. Perhaps thinned by use, skinny as twine. Perhaps thicker and heavier than the huge rope tied to the steamship's anchors. You might want to pull on it and examine all that's tied to the other end. Shedding dead weight eases the speed of the journey. Oh, and the heaviest dead weights are never things or people. They are thoughts and beliefs." Oh man, you got Dan Kennedy talking about Batman, and superheroes, and personal development. What more could you want? All in one amazing fax. So any of you guys who eventually, someday get the Dan Kennedy fax book, The Batman fax is on page number 79. Hope you guys enjoyed this one. And I'm going to keep bringing you guys cool stuff I learn from Dan. Thanks, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Check out this fax that Dan Kennedy sent to his Diamond Members talking about Batman, success, and a whole bunch of other really cool things.

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---Transcript---

Hey, what's up everyone? This is Russell Brunson and I'm excited. Today's episode is going to be a little bit different. Right now, I'm working on a project with Dan Kennedy. And for years, he used to send a weekly fax to his diamond members. And right now, we're putting all of those into a book. And there's a bunch of cool things happening with it. It's insane. But one of the faxes, I just stumbled upon it and the title caught me. I had to read it. And then it was so good, I wanted to read it to you. So the title of this fax from Dan Kennedy is called, Parables of The Batman.

All right, so like I said, I'm working on this project with Dan Kennedy. We're putting together all his faxes. People used to pay $297 a month to be a diamond member. They still do, actually. Sorry. And in that program for the five, or six, or seven-year period of time, Dan would send them a weekly fax. And I found in the archives all these faxes. They're insanely cool. Dan's thoughts on whatever he was thinking about that week, it was literally fun. And so we're actually putting them together into a book that eventually, we'll be giving to all diamond members. So if you want more of these, you need to upgrade to become a magnetic marketing diamond member here in the future. That'll be the bribe, is giving everyone this book of all of Dan's faxes from a seven-year window.

But anyway, as I'm going through the book, I found this one. Obviously, you guys know I'm a superhero fan. I'm a Batman fan. I'm all the things. And so this fax, as I was scrolling through the book before we sent it out to print, the title of this fax was called, Parables of The Batman. And so, of course, I had to read it. And it was so cool, I wanted to read it to you, too. So here we go. This is in Dan's words from his fax.

He said, "I finally got around to watching The Dark Knight Rises, the third, final and only disappointing film in the trilogy produced by Christopher Nolan. In it, there is a hell-hole of a prison deep beneath the earth's surface, featuring the ultimate cruelty, impossible hope. There's a tall tower carved out of the rock, rising several stories to the surface. Blue skies visible when standing at its bottom, looking straight up. Prisoners are free to attempt climbing up and out. And they do from time to time, with a rope tied around their waist to catch them bungee-style before they fall to their death. There's a legend known to all the suffering prisoners passed from one generation to the next about the only person who ever succeeded at this escape, a child."

"It is in this subterraneal hell that a crippled Batman, i.e., Bruce Wayne, has been left to die. After a brutally-difficult, primitive-managed rehab, he attempts and fails in this escape. Not once, but twice. At point of surrender, an aged prisoner, who has befriended him, tells him the secret of the child who did successfully clamor up the entire tower and escaped. The child climbed without the rope. The weight of the rope, more the embedded thought created by wearing the rope, that one is going to fall is just enough burden to ensure failure. The old man says that to have a chance you must climb without the rope. This is a remarkable success parable buried deep in the film that few will notice."

"Most people try to achieve various lofty ambitions, perhaps the greatest of which is freedom and autonomy, while still dragging contrary conventions, industry norms, counterproductive beliefs, slothful behaviors, et cetera, tied to them by a heavy rope. The higher they try to climb, the heavier the burden of the rope. I first taught this in the early 1980s as a simplified cycle cybernetic concept, in terms of the importance of a bountiful garden and pulling weeds, not just planting flowers. I'm often asked that, to be super successful must I lose my friends? If your friends are unambitious, or delusional, or toxic, then yes, they must be left behind. You must sever your ties to all the ordinary ideas, and behaviors, and business practices of the masses, of the majorities. You must climb without the rope."

"The Batman himself is a parable. He is unlike most other costumed superheroes. As I pointed out before, Superman is an alien from outer space and that is the source of his superhuman powers. Spider-Man was bitten by a radioactive spider, et cetera. Most superheroes come from a distant planet and are gifted powers by unworldly beings, the Green Lantern, for example, or science experiments gone wrong or accidents like spideys. Few have no superpowers at all, but simply decided to make themselves into superheroes. The Batman is a creature entirely of Bruce Wayne's decision. If the genealogy of such things interests you, the predecessor closest is the Shadow. Further, The Batman made himself into a master detective and an extraordinary athlete, martial artist, fighter and an intimidating personality."

"Anyway, there's probably a rope tied around your waist. Perhaps thinned by use, skinny as twine. Perhaps thicker and heavier than the huge rope tied to the steamship's anchors. You might want to pull on it and examine all that's tied to the other end. Shedding dead weight eases the speed of the journey. Oh, and the heaviest dead weights are never things or people. They are thoughts and beliefs."

Oh man, you got Dan Kennedy talking about Batman, and superheroes, and personal development. What more could you want? All in one amazing fax. So any of you guys who eventually, someday get the Dan Kennedy fax book, The Batman fax is on page number 79. Hope you guys enjoyed this one. And I'm going to keep bringing you guys cool stuff I learn from Dan. Thanks, everybody.

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]]> 413 no Identity And Obsession https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/identity-and-obsession The secrets of transforming your identity into an actual obsession. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Series Podcast. Today, we're going to be going even a little bit deeper, talking about identity. All right, I know I talked about this stuff a lot, but it's in my head on my mind a lot. I think sometimes we talk about a topic and then we're like, oh yeah, I know what that is. So the topic we're talking about is identity shifting again. And I've talked about it in so many different ways. Like we talked at it from a marketing standpoint, like with your audience, you've got to create an identity shift if you truly want them to move and follow. In goal setting, we talked about you have to have an identity shift if you want to actually move and change. But I had a weird realization over the last probably 48 hours or so. So those who don't know, my life right now, and we're in the middle of wrestling season. I help coach the kids high school team. So every day at 2:30, I leave the office, race over to the school, and I coach. And it's kind of weird, because I'm not the head coach. I'm there just kind of wrestle my kids, and help people, and whatever. But it brings back all the memories of when you were doing it, right? When you were wrestling, and when you were competing. And for me, it was like, man, wrestling was my life. Like it was the only thing that mattered. There was nothing else. There wasn't like a number two or number three. It was like wrestling and then nothing else. And it's interesting because I watched the kids now, we've got some really good wrestlers on our team, but I think it was two days ago, maybe three days ago, I had this realization. I said there's a difference between people who are wrestling and someone who is a wrestler. And I was looking, because most of the people on the team are here and they're wrestling. They come to practice every day, they wrestle. Then they go to the matches, they go to the tournaments. They do stuff and they wrestle. They're wrestling. But there's a difference between just wrestling and then those who are wrestlers. Right? And it was interesting, because last night my high school I grew up in, it's Hillcrest High School in Sandy, Utah. Every year there's this rivalry against Brighton High School. We hate Brighton. And Brighton's the big... It's Hillcrest versus Brighton. And I think it was like 40 or 50 years ago, they started this thing called the Battle of the Ax. And so they had this huge Ax. And each year, whoever wins the dome gets to keep the Ax. And so when I was a senior in high school, we had lost the ax like 13 or 14 years in a row. And our senior year, we were a really, really good team. And my senior year we actually won the Battle of the Ax. And what's crazy cool is last night, Hillcrest won the Battle of the Ax again, for the first time in 24 years. First time since I was a senior in high school. And so I saw that on Facebook, someone posted it. So I got all excited. And so I started going back through all my old video files. And I found videos of me wrestling in the Battle of the Ax. And then us winning the ax, and us going crazy, and videos of the ax and like all these things. And so it's kind of fun, I went and took some little screenshots and some clips of me wrestling. And I posted it on Facebook and tagged all my old wrestling buddies and coaches. And anyway, the last 12 hours have been a lot nostalgia for me, just seeing my coaches comment, my friends and my teammates. And ah, just thinking about it. But I started thinking this morning again, as I was looking at that, this is the identity shift, right? There's a lot of people who do wrestling. There's a lot of people who, again, they go through the motions, they do the thing. But there's a difference. When I was competing, I was a wrestler. And what does that mean? Like what does it look like? Because from the outside, it probably looks similar. But the difference was, when I would wake up in the morning, all I was thinking about was how to become a better wrestler. I was at school, in classes, that's all I was thinking about. When wrestling practice started, I was there. I showed up early. As soon as I got in the room, we started wrestling, started rolling around. As soon as practice ended, my dad would show up and I would do a second practice every single day. And then on the weekends, like when we traveled, we brought wrestling mats. We literally have wrestling mats that we'd hook to the top of my dad's truck. When we'd drive on family vacations, we'd get the wrestling mats out and we'd wrestle in the morning before we would go do our, go on the lake or whatever. I wasn't someone who was wrestling, I was a wrestler. It was different, right? It's an identity shift. Like it was my life. There was nothing else. It is who I was. And I look at the kids who are the most successful, if not the ones who wrestle, that it's the ones who are wrestlers, where it is who they are. It's who they become. And I keep trying to think, how do I instill that in kids? In wrestling, how do I get you to go from being like, oh yeah, I'm wrestling. I go to wrestling practice. Like, no, no, no. You don't understand. If you really want to be the best, if you want to be a State Champ, or a National Champ, or an All American, or whatever, the thing is, you have to... It's more than this. It's not just doing the motions that everybody's doing. It's like, you have to have this identity shift where you become a wrestler, where that's all you do. That's your full-time am job, income, livelihood, thought process. Like everything is wrapped into that thing. So why do I share this with you guys? I share it with you guys because as I've been now, 20 something years, teaching entrepreneurship, and online marketing, and doing this thing, I see that same division. There are people who start businesses. There are who try to make money. There's people who, whatever, right? But the people are successful, the ones who actually had the identity shift, where they have become an entrepreneur, they become a publisher, they become an author. They become something different. And you can tell that shift because it goes from like, "Okay, I got to work on my business today for an hour." Or, "I got to block out three hours," to "This is my obsession." I was talking about it with... Recently, I let go some people who had been in our company a long time. And I remember for me, it was like... It's tough because I'm like, man, if I got fired from this, from what I do, it's my life. There's not like I go to work and then go home at night. It's like, this is my life. And this is my life and I'm thinking about it all the time, like when I'm the shower I'm thinking about it. At my home, my family... Maybe that's wrong. I don't know, it's an obsession, but if you look at my identity, what am I like? I am an entrepreneur. I am a curator. I am a... Like, I could give you different identities that I resonate with. But it's deep. It's not a dabble. In fact, I remember, this is a couple years ago, somebody asked for my email address. I gave it to them. They're like, "That's your work email. What's your real email?" And I was like, "What are you talking about?" And they're like, "Well, don't you have a personal email and a work email?" I'm like, "There's no division." I don't have a personal life and work life. This is my life. You know what I mean? And I was confused, because I remember someone on my team, assuming now I think I've learned since then that almost everyone has a work email and a personal email. But for me, again, there's not a line between those two things. This is my mission. When I was wrestling, I was a wrestler. My mission was singular focused. There was one thing. Since I've gotten out of wrestling and I've become who I am now at today, there's no work Russell and home Russel. There's Russell, and this is who I am. This is my personality. This is my identity. That's how deep your identity shift has to become. And not that you can't have success without it. People have success, they make money, blah, blah, like those things. But if you really want to, in my mind, to change the world, to do something amazing, it's deeper. It's this thing where it becomes you. That's what an identity shift is. It's not saying, "Oh yeah, I wrestle." No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm a wrestler. Like you cut me, I bleed that color. I remember Stephen Larson one time, in fact, we made a whole t-shirt, a theme, out of funnel hacking live when you're calling people diehard funnel hackers. And his joke was, if you cut me open and you see my heart beating inside, you'll notice there's a blue gear and a red gear. That's how deep I am in this community. And so we made these t-shirts that said Diehard Funnel Hacker, and it had a beating heart, click funnel's heart. But again, that's the kind of identity shift you have to have. And I don't know exactly how to do that, or how to have it, other than it's got to become an obsession. I think in our society, in our world, people talk down about obsessions sometimes. Because there's definitely a negative stigma sometimes. And it's tough. As a producer who likes to produce, I struggle with people I love around me, including my wife and other family members, other people who are just like, "You got to turn it off. You got to stop." And I'm like, I don't understand what this means, turning it off. It's not like I'm going to work and I'm leaving work. It's who I am. It's my identity. There's no on off switch. It's just, it is.And that's the level of identity shift you've got to have you really want to change the world. I remember, I think I shared this on the last episode of the podcast. But I remember there was a wrestling film I used to watch all the time, with Tom and Terry Brands. And it started with, "My name's Tom Brands. My goal's simple, I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." And then the second guy is, "My name's Terry Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." That was not somebody who was going to work and then going home at night. That was someone who, they were trying to change the world. They were trying to be the best. And I feel like, man, if you really want to do something great, you got to do that. And it's tough for most people. Because most people don't have that. It's interesting, I had my time when I got to be an athlete, which for me was from... I didn't start wrestling until eighth grade. So from eighth grade till college. So there's what, four years high school, 8, 9, 10. So I had a decade. Wow, I had a decade. I had a decade where my sole focus was being an athlete, and everything was there and focused. And I look at most people, it's interesting, because now that I'm coaching high school wrestling, most people, their only chance to be athletes is two or three years. If they start as a sophomore, maybe freshman, they make it four years. That's the window of the life they're an athlete. And if they're not great or whatever, like again, if they haven't had that identity shift, they do the thing, but they're not... Like they miss that. I think for me, I was lucky where I had a decade of my life where I was singular focused. I had a chance to have that. And so for me to go deep on something, to be obsessed with something, I had done it before. That pattern was in my brain. It was easy for me to, as I switched to business, to become like, okay, I'm going to tackle this with the same like fervent energy that I did with wrestling. And so I was able to go deep on it, where a lot of people have never had that chance in their life. They've never gone deep. They never sacrificed everything they had for something that they wanted to get. And if you haven't in life, it's going to be kind of hard. It's going to be hard to even understand. You've seen somebody who's crazy like me, and you've seen somebody. You get people around you, but you never experienced that. And it's like, how do you trick your mind? How do you train your mind? How do you go deep on it? And I don't know the exact answer, other than I think we got to stop thinking about it from a, go to work and back, and more of like, this is who I am, this is who I've become, this is who I serve. This is all the things related to that. So anyway, I'm sure some of you guys think I'm crazy, and you're rolling your eyes. And you're like, Russel, I didn't get in here to try to change the world, just trying to make some extra money. And I get that. But you will find out very quickly that the money is short lived. And the thing that, at least for me, and I don't think I'm unique in this. I've talked to a lot of successful people at the highest levels. I've talked to the Tony Robbins of the world, people like that. And it's the same thing, I don't do this for money. I have plenty of money. I do this because this is who I am. Like Tony Robbins is Tony Robbins. He's not like, I go to work and I motivate people. No, no, no, no, no. You don't understand. Tony is... I don't know how to explain it other than he is Tony. This is his mission, his life. And he'll be on his deathbed, running a UPW, like streaming it in. Like, I don't want to stop. Like, I'm going to go til the heart stops beating. Just keep going and keep going. And I think that's me. It definitely is me. Unless I find something different to shift my identity to, but as right now, I love this. I love who I serve. I'm obsessed with it. The art is so rewarding and fulfilling to me, where, again, like Russell you got to turn it off. Like why would you want to turn it off? I can't understand that. It does not compute in my brain. And that's the level of obsession I think you really got to have, if you want to be successful in anything at the highest levels. So anyway, again, just thoughts in Russell's head that I want to share with you guys. Yeah, so I hope that helps. I hope you guys... And for those of you guys who are like me, and hopefully it gives you permission to be like, it's okay. It's okay that I'm obsessed. I got to be careful, because there's a line of obsession where you can lose everything. You can lose your family, you can lose your friends. And I don't believe in that. I believe in trying to incorporate the people you love most into your mission. Like my dad was at wrestling practice every day with me. My mom came to my tournaments. I was able to incorporate the people I loved in the mission that I was on at the time. And I feel like the same thing's true here. I had the chance to bring my kids to Funnel Acting Live. We created a whole family event, unlocked the secrets for our families, because I wanted to bring my kids to an event. So it's like, you don't have to do it and lose everything, unless you isolate from the people you love. It's like, how do you incorporate and bring those people on the trip and the ride with you? So anyway, I hope that helps somebody. I appreciate you guys for listening. It means the world to me. We're working on a new Funnel Hub inside of ClickFunnels 2.0, the very first one is marketingsecrets.com. So it's not quite live yet. By the time you guys hear this, it might be live. Hopefully in the next day or two, we'll have it up there. But it is the first ever Funnel Hub built on ClickFunnels 2.0, which is exciting. Actually, it's not true. We launched magneticmarketing.com on ClickFunnels, 2.0. So that was the first one. And it is live so you can go see it. You can test page speeds. The page speeds are insane on it, which is really cool. Even though we haven't actually turned on all the cashing and optimization stuff yet, it's still way faster than every other page builder. So it's exciting. Good things are happening. And do you want to know why? It's because we're obsessed. All right, thanks, guys, for listening. Appreciate you. And we'll talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000 Identity And Obsession full 485 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The secrets of transforming your identity into an actual obsession. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing... The secrets of transforming your identity into an actual obsession. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Series Podcast. Today, we're going to be going even a little bit deeper, talking about identity. All right, I know I talked about this stuff a lot, but it's in my head on my mind a lot. I think sometimes we talk about a topic and then we're like, oh yeah, I know what that is. So the topic we're talking about is identity shifting again. And I've talked about it in so many different ways. Like we talked at it from a marketing standpoint, like with your audience, you've got to create an identity shift if you truly want them to move and follow. In goal setting, we talked about you have to have an identity shift if you want to actually move and change. But I had a weird realization over the last probably 48 hours or so. So those who don't know, my life right now, and we're in the middle of wrestling season. I help coach the kids high school team. So every day at 2:30, I leave the office, race over to the school, and I coach. And it's kind of weird, because I'm not the head coach. I'm there just kind of wrestle my kids, and help people, and whatever. But it brings back all the memories of when you were doing it, right? When you were wrestling, and when you were competing. And for me, it was like, man, wrestling was my life. Like it was the only thing that mattered. There was nothing else. There wasn't like a number two or number three. It was like wrestling and then nothing else. And it's interesting because I watched the kids now, we've got some really good wrestlers on our team, but I think it was two days ago, maybe three days ago, I had this realization. I said there's a difference between people who are wrestling and someone who is a wrestler. And I was looking, because most of the people on the team are here and they're wrestling. They come to practice every day, they wrestle. Then they go to the matches, they go to the tournaments. They do stuff and they wrestle. They're wrestling. But there's a difference between just wrestling and then those who are wrestlers. Right? And it was interesting, because last night my high school I grew up in, it's Hillcrest High School in Sandy, Utah. Every year there's this rivalry against Brighton High School. We hate Brighton. And Brighton's the big... It's Hillcrest versus Brighton. And I think it was like 40 or 50 years ago, they started this thing called the Battle of the Ax. And so they had this huge Ax. And each year, whoever wins the dome gets to keep the Ax. And so when I was a senior in high school, we had lost the ax like 13 or 14 years in a row. And our senior year, we were a really, really good team. And my senior year we actually won the Battle of the Ax. And what's crazy cool is last night, Hillcrest won the Battle of the Ax again, for the first time in 24 years. First time since I was a senior in high school. And so I saw that on Facebook, someone posted it. So I got all excited. And so I started going back through all my old video files. And I found videos of me wrestling in the Battle of the Ax. And then us winning the ax, and us going crazy, and videos of the ax and like all these things. And so it's kind of fun, I went and took some little screenshots and some clips of me wrestling. And I posted it on Facebook and tagged all my old wrestling buddies and coaches. And anyway, the last 12 hours have been a lot nostalgia for me, just seeing my coaches comment, my friends and my teammates. And ah, just thinking about it. But I started thinking this morning again, as I was looking at that, this is the identity shift, right? There's a lot of people who do wrestling. There's a lot of people who, again, they go through the motions, they do the thing. But there's a difference. When I was competing, I was a wrestler. And what does that mean? Like what does it look like? Because from the outside, it probably looks similar. But the difference was, when I would wake up in the morning, all I was thinking about was how to become a better wrestler. I was at school, in classes, that's all I was thinking about. When wrestling practice started, I was there. I showed up early. As soon as I got in the room, we started wrestling, started rolling around. As soon as practice ended, my dad would show up and I would do a second practice every single day. And then on the weekends, like when we traveled, we brought wrestling mats. We literally have wrestling mats that we'd hook to the top of my dad's truck. When we'd drive on family vacations, we'd get the wrestling mats out and we'd wrestle in the morning before we would go do our, go on the lake or whatever. I wasn't someone who was wrestling, I was a wrestler. It was different, right? It's an identity shift. Like it was my life. There was nothing else. It is who I was. And I look at the kids who are the most successful, if not the ones who wrestle, that it's the ones who are wrestlers, where it is who they are. It's who they become. And I keep trying to think, how do I instill that in kids? In wrestling, how do I get you to go from being like, oh yeah, I'm wrestling. I go to wrestling practice. Like, no, no, no. You don't understand. If you really want to be the best, if you want to be a State Champ, or a National Champ, or an All American, or whatever, the thing is, you have to... It's more than this. It's not just doing the motions that everybody's doing. It's like, you have to have this identity shift where you become a wrestler, where that's all you do. That's your full-time am job, income, livelihood, thought process. Like everything is wrapped into that thing. So why do I share this with you guys? I share it with you guys because as I've been now, 20 something years, teaching entrepreneurship, and online marketing, and doing this thing, I see that same division. There are people who start businesses. There are who try to make money. There's people who, whatever, right? But the people are successful, the ones who actually had the identity shift, where they have become an entrepreneur, they become a publisher, they become an author. They become something different. And you can tell that shift because it goes from like, "Okay, I got to work on my business today for an hour." Or, "I got to block out three hours," to "This is my obsession." I was talking about it with... Recently, I let go some people who had been in our company a long time. And I remember for me, it was like... It's tough because I'm like, man, if I got fired from this, from what I do, it's my life. There's not like I go to work and then go home at night. It's like, this is my life. And this is my life and I'm thinking about it all the time, like when I'm the shower I'm thinking about it. At my home, my family... Maybe that's wrong. I don't know, it's an obsession, but if you look at my identity, what am I like? I am an entrepreneur. I am a curator. I am a... Like, I could give you different identities that I resonate with. But it's deep. It's not a dabble. In fact, I remember, this is a couple years ago, somebody asked for my email address. I gave it to them. They're like, "That's your work email. What's your real email?" And I was like, "What are you talking about?" And they're like, "Well, don't you have a personal email and a work email?" I'm like, "There's no division." I don't have a personal life and work life. This is my life. You know what I mean? And I was confused, because I remember someone on my team, assuming now I think I've learned since then that almost everyone has a work email and a personal email. But for me, again, there's not a line between those two things. This is my mission. When I was wrestling, I was a wrestler. My mission was singular focused. There was one thing. Since I've gotten out of wrestling and I've become who I am now at today, there's no work Russell and home Russel. There's Russell, and this is who I am. This is my personality. This is my identity. That's how deep your identity shift has to become. And not that you can't have success without it. People have success, they make money, blah, blah, like those things. But if you really want to, in my mind, to change the world, to do something amazing, it's deeper. It's this thing where it becomes you. That's what an identity shift is. It's not saying, "Oh yeah, I wrestle." No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm a wrestler. Like you cut me, I bleed that color. I remember Stephen Larson one time, in fact, we made a whole t-shirt, a theme, out of funnel hacking live when you're calling people diehard funnel hackers. And his joke was, if you cut me open and you see my heart beating inside, you'll notice there's a blue gear and a red gear. That's how deep I am in this community. And so we made these t-shirts that said Diehard Funnel Hacker, and it had a beating heart, click funnel's heart. But again, that's the kind of identity shift you have to have. And I don't know exactly how to do that, or how to have it, other than it's got to become an obsession. I think in our society, in our world, people talk down about obsessions sometimes. Because there's definitely a negative stigma sometimes. And it's tough. As a producer who likes to produce, I struggle with people I love around me, including my wife and other family members, other people who are just like, "You got to turn it off. You got to stop." And I'm like, I don't understand what this means, turning it off. It's not like I'm going to work and I'm leaving work. It's who I am. It's my identity. There's no on off switch. It's just, it is.And that's the level of identity shift you've got to have you really want to change the world. I remember, I think I shared this on the last episode of the podcast. But I remember there was a wrestling film I used to watch all the time, with Tom and Terry Brands. And it started with, "My name's Tom Brands. My goal's simple, I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." And then the second guy is, "My name's Terry Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." That was not somebody who was going to work and then going home at night. That was someone who, they were trying to change the world. They were trying to be the best. And I feel like, man, if you really want to do something great, you got to do that. And it's tough for most people. Because most people don't have that. It's interesting, I had my time when I got to be an athlete, which for me was from... I didn't start wrestling until eighth grade. So from eighth grade till college. So there's what, four years high school, 8, 9, 10. So I had a decade. Wow, I had a decade. I had a decade where my sole focus was being an athlete, and everything was there and focused. And I look at most people, it's interesting, because now that I'm coaching high school wrestling, most people, their only chance to be athletes is two or three years. If they start as a sophomore, maybe freshman, they make it four years. That's the window of the life they're an athlete. And if they're not great or whatever, like again, if they haven't had that identity shift, they do the thing, but they're not... Like they miss that. I think for me, I was lucky where I had a decade of my life where I was singular focused. I had a chance to have that. And so for me to go deep on something, to be obsessed with something, I had done it before. That pattern was in my brain. It was easy for me to, as I switched to business, to become like, okay, I'm going to tackle this with the same like fervent energy that I did with wrestling. And so I was able to go deep on it, where a lot of people have never had that chance in their life. They've never gone deep. They never sacrificed everything they had for something that they wanted to get. And if you haven't in life, it's going to be kind of hard. It's going to be hard to even understand. You've seen somebody who's crazy like me, and you've seen somebody. You get people around you, but you never experienced that. And it's like, how do you trick your mind? How do you train your mind? How do you go deep on it? And I don't know the exact answer, other than I think we got to stop thinking about it from a, go to work and back, and more of like, this is who I am, this is who I've become, this is who I serve. This is all the things related to that. So anyway, I'm sure some of you guys think I'm crazy, and you're rolling your eyes. And you're like, Russel, I didn't get in here to try to change the world, just trying to make some extra money. And I get that. But you will find out very quickly that the money is short lived. And the thing that, at least for me, and I don't think I'm unique in this. I've talked to a lot of successful people at the highest levels. I've talked to the Tony Robbins of the world, people like that. And it's the same thing, I don't do this for money. I have plenty of money. I do this because this is who I am. Like Tony Robbins is Tony Robbins. He's not like, I go to work and I motivate people. No, no, no, no, no. You don't understand. Tony is... I don't know how to explain it other than he is Tony. This is his mission, his life. And he'll be on his deathbed, running a UPW, like streaming it in. Like, I don't want to stop. Like, I'm going to go til the heart stops beating. Just keep going and keep going. And I think that's me. It definitely is me. Unless I find something different to shift my identity to, but as right now, I love this. I love who I serve. I'm obsessed with it. The art is so rewarding and fulfilling to me, where, again, like Russell you got to turn it off. Like why would you want to turn it off? I can't understand that. It does not compute in my brain. And that's the level of obsession I think you really got to have, if you want to be successful in anything at the highest levels. So anyway, again, just thoughts in Russell's head that I want to share with you guys. Yeah, so I hope that helps. I hope you guys... And for those of you guys who are like me, and hopefully it gives you permission to be like, it's okay. It's okay that I'm obsessed. I got to be careful, because there's a line of obsession where you can lose everything. You can lose your family, you can lose your friends. And I don't believe in that. I believe in trying to incorporate the people you love most into your mission. Like my dad was at wrestling practice every day with me. My mom came to my tournaments. I was able to incorporate the people I loved in the mission that I was on at the time. And I feel like the same thing's true here. I had the chance to bring my kids to Funnel Acting Live. We created a whole family event, unlocked the secrets for our families, because I wanted to bring my kids to an event. So it's like, you don't have to do it and lose everything, unless you isolate from the people you love. It's like, how do you incorporate and bring those people on the trip and the ride with you? So anyway, I hope that helps somebody. I appreciate you guys for listening. It means the world to me. We're working on a new Funnel Hub inside of ClickFunnels 2.0, the very first one is marketingsecrets.com. So it's not quite live yet. By the time you guys hear this, it might be live. Hopefully in the next day or two, we'll have it up there. But it is the first ever Funnel Hub built on ClickFunnels 2.0, which is exciting. Actually, it's not true. We launched magneticmarketing.com on ClickFunnels, 2.0. So that was the first one. And it is live so you can go see it. You can test page speeds. The page speeds are insane on it, which is really cool. Even though we haven't actually turned on all the cashing and optimization stuff yet, it's still way faster than every other page builder. So it's exciting. Good things are happening. And do you want to know why? It's because we're obsessed. All right, thanks, guys, for listening. Appreciate you. And we'll talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The secrets of transforming your identity into an actual obsession.

Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing

---Transcript---

What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Series Podcast. Today, we're going to be going even a little bit deeper, talking about identity.

All right, I know I talked about this stuff a lot, but it's in my head on my mind a lot. I think sometimes we talk about a topic and then we're like, oh yeah, I know what that is. So the topic we're talking about is identity shifting again. And I've talked about it in so many different ways. Like we talked at it from a marketing standpoint, like with your audience, you've got to create an identity shift if you truly want them to move and follow.

In goal setting, we talked about you have to have an identity shift if you want to actually move and change. But I had a weird realization over the last probably 48 hours or so. So those who don't know, my life right now, and we're in the middle of wrestling season. I help coach the kids high school team. So every day at 2:30, I leave the office, race over to the school, and I coach.

And it's kind of weird, because I'm not the head coach. I'm there just kind of wrestle my kids, and help people, and whatever. But it brings back all the memories of when you were doing it, right? When you were wrestling, and when you were competing. And for me, it was like, man, wrestling was my life. Like it was the only thing that mattered. There was nothing else. There wasn't like a number two or number three. It was like wrestling and then nothing else.

And it's interesting because I watched the kids now, we've got some really good wrestlers on our team, but I think it was two days ago, maybe three days ago, I had this realization.

I said there's a difference between people who are wrestling and someone who is a wrestler. And I was looking, because most of the people on the team are here and they're wrestling. They come to practice every day, they wrestle. Then they go to the matches, they go to the tournaments. They do stuff and they wrestle. They're wrestling.

But there's a difference between just wrestling and then those who are wrestlers. Right? And it was interesting, because last night my high school I grew up in, it's Hillcrest High School in Sandy, Utah. Every year there's this rivalry against Brighton High School. We hate Brighton. And Brighton's the big... It's Hillcrest versus Brighton.

And I think it was like 40 or 50 years ago, they started this thing called the Battle of the Ax. And so they had this huge Ax. And each year, whoever wins the dome gets to keep the Ax.

And so when I was a senior in high school, we had lost the ax like 13 or 14 years in a row. And our senior year, we were a really, really good team. And my senior year we actually won the Battle of the Ax. And what's crazy cool is last night, Hillcrest won the Battle of the Ax again, for the first time in 24 years. First time since I was a senior in high school.

And so I saw that on Facebook, someone posted it. So I got all excited. And so I started going back through all my old video files. And I found videos of me wrestling in the Battle of the Ax. And then us winning the ax, and us going crazy, and videos of the ax and like all these things.

And so it's kind of fun, I went and took some little screenshots and some clips of me wrestling. And I posted it on Facebook and tagged all my old wrestling buddies and coaches. And anyway, the last 12 hours have been a lot nostalgia for me, just seeing my coaches comment, my friends and my teammates. And ah, just thinking about it.

But I started thinking this morning again, as I was looking at that, this is the identity shift, right? There's a lot of people who do wrestling. There's a lot of people who, again, they go through the motions, they do the thing. But there's a difference. When I was competing, I was a wrestler. And what does that mean? Like what does it look like?

Because from the outside, it probably looks similar. But the difference was, when I would wake up in the morning, all I was thinking about was how to become a better wrestler. I was at school, in classes, that's all I was thinking about. When wrestling practice started, I was there. I showed up early. As soon as I got in the room, we started wrestling, started rolling around.

As soon as practice ended, my dad would show up and I would do a second practice every single day. And then on the weekends, like when we traveled, we brought wrestling mats. We literally have wrestling mats that we'd hook to the top of my dad's truck. When we'd drive on family vacations, we'd get the wrestling mats out and we'd wrestle in the morning before we would go do our, go on the lake or whatever.

I wasn't someone who was wrestling, I was a wrestler. It was different, right? It's an identity shift. Like it was my life. There was nothing else. It is who I was. And I look at the kids who are the most successful, if not the ones who wrestle, that it's the ones who are wrestlers, where it is who they are. It's who they become.

And I keep trying to think, how do I instill that in kids? In wrestling, how do I get you to go from being like, oh yeah, I'm wrestling. I go to wrestling practice. Like, no, no, no. You don't understand. If you really want to be the best, if you want to be a State Champ, or a National Champ, or an All American, or whatever, the thing is, you have to... It's more than this. It's not just doing the motions that everybody's doing. It's like, you have to have this identity shift where you become a wrestler, where that's all you do. That's your full-time am job, income, livelihood, thought process. Like everything is wrapped into that thing.

So why do I share this with you guys? I share it with you guys because as I've been now, 20 something years, teaching entrepreneurship, and online marketing, and doing this thing, I see that same division. There are people who start businesses. There are who try to make money. There's people who, whatever, right?

But the people are successful, the ones who actually had the identity shift, where they have become an entrepreneur, they become a publisher, they become an author. They become something different. And you can tell that shift because it goes from like, "Okay, I got to work on my business today for an hour." Or, "I got to block out three hours," to "This is my obsession."

I was talking about it with... Recently, I let go some people who had been in our company a long time. And I remember for me, it was like... It's tough because I'm like, man, if I got fired from this, from what I do, it's my life. There's not like I go to work and then go home at night. It's like, this is my life.

And this is my life and I'm thinking about it all the time, like when I'm the shower I'm thinking about it. At my home, my family... Maybe that's wrong. I don't know, it's an obsession, but if you look at my identity, what am I like? I am an entrepreneur. I am a curator. I am a...

Like, I could give you different identities that I resonate with. But it's deep. It's not a dabble. In fact, I remember, this is a couple years ago, somebody asked for my email address. I gave it to them. They're like, "That's your work email. What's your real email?" And I was like, "What are you talking about?" And they're like, "Well, don't you have a personal email and a work email?"

I'm like, "There's no division." I don't have a personal life and work life. This is my life. You know what I mean? And I was confused, because I remember someone on my team, assuming now I think I've learned since then that almost everyone has a work email and a personal email.

But for me, again, there's not a line between those two things. This is my mission. When I was wrestling, I was a wrestler. My mission was singular focused. There was one thing. Since I've gotten out of wrestling and I've become who I am now at today, there's no work Russell and home Russel. There's Russell, and this is who I am. This is my personality. This is my identity.

That's how deep your identity shift has to become. And not that you can't have success without it. People have success, they make money, blah, blah, like those things. But if you really want to, in my mind, to change the world, to do something amazing, it's deeper. It's this thing where it becomes you. That's what an identity shift is. It's not saying, "Oh yeah, I wrestle." No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm a wrestler. Like you cut me, I bleed that color.

I remember Stephen Larson one time, in fact, we made a whole t-shirt, a theme, out of funnel hacking live when you're calling people diehard funnel hackers. And his joke was, if you cut me open and you see my heart beating inside, you'll notice there's a blue gear and a red gear. That's how deep I am in this community.

And so we made these t-shirts that said Diehard Funnel Hacker, and it had a beating heart, click funnel's heart. But again, that's the kind of identity shift you have to have. And I don't know exactly how to do that, or how to have it, other than it's got to become an obsession. I think in our society, in our world, people talk down about obsessions sometimes.

Because there's definitely a negative stigma sometimes. And it's tough. As a producer who likes to produce, I struggle with people I love around me, including my wife and other family members, other people who are just like, "You got to turn it off. You got to stop."

And I'm like, I don't understand what this means, turning it off. It's not like I'm going to work and I'm leaving work. It's who I am. It's my identity. There's no on off switch. It's just, it is.And that's the level of identity shift you've got to have you really want to change the world.

I remember, I think I shared this on the last episode of the podcast. But I remember there was a wrestling film I used to watch all the time, with Tom and Terry Brands. And it started with, "My name's Tom Brands. My goal's simple, I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." And then the second guy is, "My name's Terry Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." That was not somebody who was going to work and then going home at night. That was someone who, they were trying to change the world. They were trying to be the best. And I feel like, man, if you really want to do something great, you got to do that.

And it's tough for most people. Because most people don't have that. It's interesting, I had my time when I got to be an athlete, which for me was from... I didn't start wrestling until eighth grade. So from eighth grade till college. So there's what, four years high school, 8, 9, 10. So I had a decade. Wow, I had a decade. I had a decade where my sole focus was being an athlete, and everything was there and focused.

And I look at most people, it's interesting, because now that I'm coaching high school wrestling, most people, their only chance to be athletes is two or three years. If they start as a sophomore, maybe freshman, they make it four years.

That's the window of the life they're an athlete. And if they're not great or whatever, like again, if they haven't had that identity shift, they do the thing, but they're not... Like they miss that.

I think for me, I was lucky where I had a decade of my life where I was singular focused. I had a chance to have that. And so for me to go deep on something, to be obsessed with something, I had done it before. That pattern was in my brain. It was easy for me to, as I switched to business, to become like, okay, I'm going to tackle this with the same like fervent energy that I did with wrestling. And so I was able to go deep on it, where a lot of people have never had that chance in their life.

They've never gone deep. They never sacrificed everything they had for something that they wanted to get. And if you haven't in life, it's going to be kind of hard. It's going to be hard to even understand. You've seen somebody who's crazy like me, and you've seen somebody. You get people around you, but you never experienced that. And it's like, how do you trick your mind? How do you train your mind? How do you go deep on it?

And I don't know the exact answer, other than I think we got to stop thinking about it from a, go to work and back, and more of like, this is who I am, this is who I've become, this is who I serve. This is all the things related to that.

So anyway, I'm sure some of you guys think I'm crazy, and you're rolling your eyes. And you're like, Russel, I didn't get in here to try to change the world, just trying to make some extra money. And I get that. But you will find out very quickly that the money is short lived. And the thing that, at least for me, and I don't think I'm unique in this. I've talked to a lot of successful people at the highest levels. I've talked to the Tony Robbins of the world, people like that. And it's the same thing, I don't do this for money. I have plenty of money. I do this because this is who I am.

Like Tony Robbins is Tony Robbins. He's not like, I go to work and I motivate people. No, no, no, no, no. You don't understand. Tony is... I don't know how to explain it other than he is Tony. This is his mission, his life. And he'll be on his deathbed, running a UPW, like streaming it in. Like, I don't want to stop. Like, I'm going to go til the heart stops beating. Just keep going and keep going.

And I think that's me. It definitely is me. Unless I find something different to shift my identity to, but as right now, I love this. I love who I serve. I'm obsessed with it. The art is so rewarding and fulfilling to me, where, again, like Russell you got to turn it off. Like why would you want to turn it off? I can't understand that. It does not compute in my brain. And that's the level of obsession I think you really got to have, if you want to be successful in anything at the highest levels.

So anyway, again, just thoughts in Russell's head that I want to share with you guys. Yeah, so I hope that helps. I hope you guys... And for those of you guys who are like me, and hopefully it gives you permission to be like, it's okay. It's okay that I'm obsessed. I got to be careful, because there's a line of obsession where you can lose everything. You can lose your family, you can lose your friends. And I don't believe in that. I believe in trying to incorporate the people you love most into your mission.

Like my dad was at wrestling practice every day with me. My mom came to my tournaments. I was able to incorporate the people I loved in the mission that I was on at the time. And I feel like the same thing's true here. I had the chance to bring my kids to Funnel Acting Live. We created a whole family event, unlocked the secrets for our families, because I wanted to bring my kids to an event.

So it's like, you don't have to do it and lose everything, unless you isolate from the people you love. It's like, how do you incorporate and bring those people on the trip and the ride with you?

So anyway, I hope that helps somebody. I appreciate you guys for listening. It means the world to me. We're working on a new Funnel Hub inside of ClickFunnels 2.0, the very first one is marketingsecrets.com. So it's not quite live yet. By the time you guys hear this, it might be live. Hopefully in the next day or two, we'll have it up there.

But it is the first ever Funnel Hub built on ClickFunnels 2.0, which is exciting. Actually, it's not true. We launched magneticmarketing.com on ClickFunnels, 2.0. So that was the first one. And it is live so you can go see it. You can test page speeds. The page speeds are insane on it, which is really cool. Even though we haven't actually turned on all the cashing and optimization stuff yet, it's still way faster than every other page builder.

So it's exciting. Good things are happening. And do you want to know why? It's because we're obsessed. All right, thanks, guys, for listening. Appreciate you. And we'll talk soon.

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]]> 984 no The Downside Of Being An Achiever https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-downside-of-being-an-achiever Most achievers I know struggle with truly feeling fulfillment. Some of my thoughts after a long weekend. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey, good morning everybody. This is Russell Brunson, and I want to welcome you back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. I just dropped my kids off at school and I'm slowly exiting the parking lot with a million kids driving, hoping for my life. But I wanted to talk about something that's been on my mind for a little while, which is some of the downsides of being a hyper achiever. All right everyone, I'm still in the kids' parking lot, trying to get out, but I wanted to talk to you guys today about something that I was thinking about a lot this weekend, and it's interesting. I don't know if you'll learn anything from this, but I think for people who are like me, hopefully you'll feel less alone. And then people who aren't like me, this is me sitting on a couch and you get to be my therapist. So that's kind of the game plan. I hope that's all right. But what I want to talk about is some of the downsides of being an achiever, especially a hyper achiever. It's been interesting in my life and I wouldn't say all my life. When I was younger, I didn't have much direction or motivation or things I was trying to do. I used to come home from school and we'd watch cartoons and we'd eat Cheerios or Rice Krispies until dinner, and then we'd eat dinner and do homework, and that was kind of end of it. And I tried to play basketball. I tried to do some things, but I wasn't that good at anything. It wasn't until I started wrestling that I had my first identity shift, my first thing where I did something, I was like, oh my gosh, this is who I am. This is who I want to become and that was the day I became an achiever. I don't want to be good, I want to be the best. In fact, I remember there's an old wrestling movie we used to always watch and it had Tom and Terry brands on it, who, you know who they are they're twin brothers, the wrestled for Iowa, both world champs. One of them was an Olympic champ. And the video started with Tom Brands saying, "My name is Tom Brands and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." And the next scene was Terry Brands. He said, "My name's Terry Brands and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." And I remember I used to watch that and think in my head, my name's Russell Brunson and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world. And that was my goal and obviously I never met that goal. I never became the greatest wrestler at all time, but I set a high goal and I started working towards it and I killed myself to reach that goal. And I became an achiever so much so where I would do anything. I would cut 30 pounds a week. I was telling my high school kids I literally would come in on Monday at 160 pounds my sophomore year and then Thursday, I weighed at 130. And so yeah, I was losing 30 pounds a week every single week. I was doing just crazy things. I was working out. I was just wrestling, lifting weights, traveling around the country. Everything I could to reach that goal. And it's interesting. It's like there's something powerful about being a high achiever. You have this drive and you push and you get to accomplish and achieve things. But one of the downsides, probably the biggest downside is it's hard to be content and that's something I've struggled with my whole life. In fact, I see people who are very content and it's something that I am jealous of. Man, I wish I could just be content. I wish I could just sit there. I wish I could just relax. And the reason I started thinking about this, this weekend is because I start thinking about when in my life have I really felt content? And as hard as I can think, I only remember two times and the first time was in wrestling. And I apologize. I have kind of a cold right now. So if I'm sniffling, that's why. Or if my voice sounds funny. So the first time that I think I ever felt content was after my junior year and I had set the goal, I wanted to be a state champ. And I had worked towards it, worked towards it, worked towards it and I remember my junior year, I won the state title. And I remember winning it and then in the car driving home, I remember this is 17 year old Russell at the time and I'm driving home and I'm looking around, I'm looking at all the mountains and the scenery outside. And I was like, this is all? And I lived in Utah as a Utah state champ was looking around. I was like this is all of Utah and I'm a state champ. I'm the best in Utah right now. I'm the best in this entire state and I remember feeling so content that I was driving home and just like, ugh, I did it. I achieved that thing. And the rest of my wrestling career, I was always chasing after goals and dreams. I wanted to be an all American. I did get that. I became an all American, but I wanted to be a national champ and I took second. And then in college I wanted to win this tournament, that tournament. I did well, but I was never a national champ. I was never a PAC-10 champ. I never got to experience the big win again. I won tournaments and things like that, but winning my state title was the big thing and I felt so content afterwards. And so, but yeah, the rest of my wrestling career, I kept racing, chasing, chasing, chasing, and then eventually I lost and my career ended and that was the end of it. I never achieved that thing. And then for me, I was like, ah, as an achiever, I have to achieve something, and at the time I kind of started my business. And so I shift my focus to business and then I spent the next decade and a half running a business, running a business. And the weirdest thing I remember about business was there was never a time where you got your hand raised. It never ended, just like this continual cycle. IN wrestling, there would be tons of work and effort towards a goal and then you either win or you lose but it was finite. Where business is this revolving circle, which is good on some ends, because the game you can play for a long, long time. But it was also bad because I never got my hand raised. It never ended. I never felt like I achieved something. In fact, I remember one time, somebody to me, "When did you feel like you made it?" And I was like, "I don't know. I'll let you know if I ever do." I've never felt that way. There's always this constant pressure grind. And I've enjoyed it as an achiever. It's taken me to a lot of places. I've met a lot of cool people, done a lot of cool things, accomplished a lot of cool stuff but it was never a point where I was like, ah. Even when I go on mastermind trips or retreats or things like that, there's always this anxiety or stress. At Funnel Hacking Live, I always think at the end of it, I'm going to feel like ah, this complacency or that feeling, but I never felt it because as soon it was done, it's like, ah, we sold people in our coaching program. Now I've got to worry about that. And it's just always this cause of stress. Except for one time and the one time was after the 10 X event and some of you guys know this story. I set a goal before we went. I was like, I want to do 3 dollars million dollars in sales because that means I'll net a million. And that event was the perfect storm where we said the whole thing, the presentation just killed it and we ended up doing $3.2 million dollars in sales. And there was this moment after the pitch was done, and I stood in line for six hours taking pictures of everyone. And Collette and I went back to our room and we were so tired and I remember laying in bed and we took this picture of us just laying in bed, smiling together. And then we passed out for four hours. And that was the second time in my life I can remember being content where I was just like, ah, we did it. I set a big goal, achieved it and then it was done. And then I remember that night after we woke up, we went back into the room where everyone was processing the money and counting all the order forms and it just felt complete. It was final. I set the goal, I achieved it and I got a break. I had a chance to rest. And those are the two times in my life. Isn't that funny? Two times in life where I felt like I could rest where I was just like, oh, like I did it. And the rest of my life has been running and sprinting. And I don't know about you, but for me it's always like, when my book's done, then I'll have a chance to rest or when the event's done, or when the thing or whatever. But each of those as I finish one, it starts the next thing. We finish the book and then we start the book promotion. Then we finish the promotion and then we got to start the backend sales and the backend sales to the event and then the event to the next thing and it just keeps going and going. And I never felt that feeling of it being done, of just ah, it's finished. And yeah, like I said, only two times in my life I can remember feeling that feeling. So being an achiever, like I said, it's amazing because it gives you a chance to run and to achieve things and experience things and it makes your life very fulfilling. I feel like my life is very colorful. I feel good at painting this beautiful, amazing thing. And I love it. But the thing that I miss is the downtime, the quietness, that feeling of ah, you did it. I feel like that's probably what I've been chasing for so long. Some of you guys know I started my next book probably over a year ago now dang. And the subtitle to the book was going to be The Art of Achievement. Or excuse me, The Science of Achievement, the Art of Fulfillment because that's what I wanted the book to be about. And it was interesting because the parts where I was writing about achievement was really easy for me to write, the Science of Achievement. Here's how we do it. That part was really easy. And then every time we got to the Art of Fulfillment, that part was really, really difficult for me. I struggled writing those things so much so that I ended up stopping writing that book. And I was like, you know what? I don't know how to be fulfilled. I haven't felt that. I don't feel content. I don't feel fulfilled all the time. I'm still trying to figure this out. So I've actually changed the whole book where the book now, I change the title as well. The new book is going to be called Secrets of Success and it's going to be about achievement, about success. How do you get these things? Because that's what I've mastered, but I understand that I'm good at. But the fulfilling part, I don't know yet. I understand pieces of it. I understand the psychology, I understand things, but I haven't been able to really feel that often in my life. And so I'm saving that book or that part of the book for a later year in my life where I have a chance to figure those things out. So anyway, this weekend for me was interesting because I sat down and I had this chance to start thinking through how do I feel fulfilled? How do I feel content? What is that thing? And that's when the whole thought came. In my life when have I felt content? And the only times I could think about was I won the state title and when I did the 3.2 million in sales at the 10 X event. The two times I felt I like I could rest and I feel like I'm chasing something, looking for that next time to rest. And so I think for me and I'll report back on this because I'm going to try to set goals that have a celebration time. When you achieve this thing, you did this, this, and now you get to rest. Take a day off or do whatever. I don't take any days off and when I do, I'm usually stressing out because the next thing's in the way or things are happening, you know what I mean? So anyway, that's the pros of the cons of being an achiever. I'm sure some of you guys relate to that. Some of you guys think I'm crazy. Either way is totally cool. But for me that's what I'm looking for is how do I get more of those things in my life? And for any of you guys who have been on this hamster wheel like me and you're running and you're achieving and you're doing the things, I want to give yourself permission to try to do what I'm trying to do, which is okay, how do I get fulfillment? How do I get my hand raised? How do I succeed? And then rest in that moment so I can feel it and I can enjoy it and recharge off it before I go to the next accomplishment. Before I climb the next mountain, before I try to conquer the next demon. So anyway, that's what's on my mind this weekend. Hopefully this helps somebody. Like I said, just not really how to as much as most of my podcast episodes, but hopefully just... Yeah, again, therapy for me to talk it out. So thanks you guys. I appreciate you all for listening and hopefully you have a great day. Talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000 The Downside Of Being An Achiever full 484 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most achievers I know struggle with truly feeling fulfillment. Some of my thoughts after a long weekend. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, good morning everybody. This is Russell... Most achievers I know struggle with truly feeling fulfillment. Some of my thoughts after a long weekend. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey, good morning everybody. This is Russell Brunson, and I want to welcome you back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. I just dropped my kids off at school and I'm slowly exiting the parking lot with a million kids driving, hoping for my life. But I wanted to talk about something that's been on my mind for a little while, which is some of the downsides of being a hyper achiever. All right everyone, I'm still in the kids' parking lot, trying to get out, but I wanted to talk to you guys today about something that I was thinking about a lot this weekend, and it's interesting. I don't know if you'll learn anything from this, but I think for people who are like me, hopefully you'll feel less alone. And then people who aren't like me, this is me sitting on a couch and you get to be my therapist. So that's kind of the game plan. I hope that's all right. But what I want to talk about is some of the downsides of being an achiever, especially a hyper achiever. It's been interesting in my life and I wouldn't say all my life. When I was younger, I didn't have much direction or motivation or things I was trying to do. I used to come home from school and we'd watch cartoons and we'd eat Cheerios or Rice Krispies until dinner, and then we'd eat dinner and do homework, and that was kind of end of it. And I tried to play basketball. I tried to do some things, but I wasn't that good at anything. It wasn't until I started wrestling that I had my first identity shift, my first thing where I did something, I was like, oh my gosh, this is who I am. This is who I want to become and that was the day I became an achiever. I don't want to be good, I want to be the best. In fact, I remember there's an old wrestling movie we used to always watch and it had Tom and Terry brands on it, who, you know who they are they're twin brothers, the wrestled for Iowa, both world champs. One of them was an Olympic champ. And the video started with Tom Brands saying, "My name is Tom Brands and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." And the next scene was Terry Brands. He said, "My name's Terry Brands and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." And I remember I used to watch that and think in my head, my name's Russell Brunson and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world. And that was my goal and obviously I never met that goal. I never became the greatest wrestler at all time, but I set a high goal and I started working towards it and I killed myself to reach that goal. And I became an achiever so much so where I would do anything. I would cut 30 pounds a week. I was telling my high school kids I literally would come in on Monday at 160 pounds my sophomore year and then Thursday, I weighed at 130. And so yeah, I was losing 30 pounds a week every single week. I was doing just crazy things. I was working out. I was just wrestling, lifting weights, traveling around the country. Everything I could to reach that goal. And it's interesting. It's like there's something powerful about being a high achiever. You have this drive and you push and you get to accomplish and achieve things. But one of the downsides, probably the biggest downside is it's hard to be content and that's something I've struggled with my whole life. In fact, I see people who are very content and it's something that I am jealous of. Man, I wish I could just be content. I wish I could just sit there. I wish I could just relax. And the reason I started thinking about this, this weekend is because I start thinking about when in my life have I really felt content? And as hard as I can think, I only remember two times and the first time was in wrestling. And I apologize. I have kind of a cold right now. So if I'm sniffling, that's why. Or if my voice sounds funny. So the first time that I think I ever felt content was after my junior year and I had set the goal, I wanted to be a state champ. And I had worked towards it, worked towards it, worked towards it and I remember my junior year, I won the state title. And I remember winning it and then in the car driving home, I remember this is 17 year old Russell at the time and I'm driving home and I'm looking around, I'm looking at all the mountains and the scenery outside. And I was like, this is all? And I lived in Utah as a Utah state champ was looking around. I was like this is all of Utah and I'm a state champ. I'm the best in Utah right now. I'm the best in this entire state and I remember feeling so content that I was driving home and just like, ugh, I did it. I achieved that thing. And the rest of my wrestling career, I was always chasing after goals and dreams. I wanted to be an all American. I did get that. I became an all American, but I wanted to be a national champ and I took second. And then in college I wanted to win this tournament, that tournament. I did well, but I was never a national champ. I was never a PAC-10 champ. I never got to experience the big win again. I won tournaments and things like that, but winning my state title was the big thing and I felt so content afterwards. And so, but yeah, the rest of my wrestling career, I kept racing, chasing, chasing, chasing, and then eventually I lost and my career ended and that was the end of it. I never achieved that thing. And then for me, I was like, ah, as an achiever, I have to achieve something, and at the time I kind of started my business. And so I shift my focus to business and then I spent the next decade and a half running a business, running a business. And the weirdest thing I remember about business was there was never a time where you got your hand raised. It never ended, just like this continual cycle. IN wrestling, there would be tons of work and effort towards a goal and then you either win or you lose but it was finite. Where business is this revolving circle, which is good on some ends, because the game you can play for a long, long time. But it was also bad because I never got my hand raised. It never ended. I never felt like I achieved something. In fact, I remember one time, somebody to me, "When did you feel like you made it?" And I was like, "I don't know. I'll let you know if I ever do." I've never felt that way. There's always this constant pressure grind. And I've enjoyed it as an achiever. It's taken me to a lot of places. I've met a lot of cool people, done a lot of cool things, accomplished a lot of cool stuff but it was never a point where I was like, ah. Even when I go on mastermind trips or retreats or things like that, there's always this anxiety or stress. At Funnel Hacking Live, I always think at the end of it, I'm going to feel like ah, this complacency or that feeling, but I never felt it because as soon it was done, it's like, ah, we sold people in our coaching program. Now I've got to worry about that. And it's just always this cause of stress. Except for one time and the one time was after the 10 X event and some of you guys know this story. I set a goal before we went. I was like, I want to do 3 dollars million dollars in sales because that means I'll net a million. And that event was the perfect storm where we said the whole thing, the presentation just killed it and we ended up doing $3.2 million dollars in sales. And there was this moment after the pitch was done, and I stood in line for six hours taking pictures of everyone. And Collette and I went back to our room and we were so tired and I remember laying in bed and we took this picture of us just laying in bed, smiling together. And then we passed out for four hours. And that was the second time in my life I can remember being content where I was just like, ah, we did it. I set a big goal, achieved it and then it was done. And then I remember that night after we woke up, we went back into the room where everyone was processing the money and counting all the order forms and it just felt complete. It was final. I set the goal, I achieved it and I got a break. I had a chance to rest. And those are the two times in my life. Isn't that funny? Two times in life where I felt like I could rest where I was just like, oh, like I did it. And the rest of my life has been running and sprinting. And I don't know about you, but for me it's always like, when my book's done, then I'll have a chance to rest or when the event's done, or when the thing or whatever. But each of those as I finish one, it starts the next thing. We finish the book and then we start the book promotion. Then we finish the promotion and then we got to start the backend sales and the backend sales to the event and then the event to the next thing and it just keeps going and going. And I never felt that feeling of it being done, of just ah, it's finished. And yeah, like I said, only two times in my life I can remember feeling that feeling. So being an achiever, like I said, it's amazing because it gives you a chance to run and to achieve things and experience things and it makes your life very fulfilling. I feel like my life is very colorful. I feel good at painting this beautiful, amazing thing. And I love it. But the thing that I miss is the downtime, the quietness, that feeling of ah, you did it. I feel like that's probably what I've been chasing for so long. Some of you guys know I started my next book probably over a year ago now dang. And the subtitle to the book was going to be The Art of Achievement. Or excuse me, The Science of Achievement, the Art of Fulfillment because that's what I wanted the book to be about. And it was interesting because the parts where I was writing about achievement was really easy for me to write, the Science of Achievement. Here's how we do it. That part was really easy. And then every time we got to the Art of Fulfillment, that part was really, really difficult for me. I struggled writing those things so much so that I ended up stopping writing that book. And I was like, you know what? I don't know how to be fulfilled. I haven't felt that. I don't feel content. I don't feel fulfilled all the time. I'm still trying to figure this out. So I've actually changed the whole book where the book now, I change the title as well. The new book is going to be called Secrets of Success and it's going to be about achievement, about success. How do you get these things? Because that's what I've mastered, but I understand that I'm good at. But the fulfilling part, I don't know yet. I understand pieces of it. I understand the psychology, I understand things, but I haven't been able to really feel that often in my life. And so I'm saving that book or that part of the book for a later year in my life where I have a chance to figure those things out. So anyway, this weekend for me was interesting because I sat down and I had this chance to start thinking through how do I feel fulfilled? How do I feel content? What is that thing? And that's when the whole thought came. In my life when have I felt content? And the only times I could think about was I won the state title and when I did the 3.2 million in sales at the 10 X event. The two times I felt I like I could rest and I feel like I'm chasing something, looking for that next time to rest. And so I think for me and I'll report back on this because I'm going to try to set goals that have a celebration time. When you achieve this thing, you did this, this, and now you get to rest. Take a day off or do whatever. I don't take any days off and when I do, I'm usually stressing out because the next thing's in the way or things are happening, you know what I mean? So anyway, that's the pros of the cons of being an achiever. I'm sure some of you guys relate to that. Some of you guys think I'm crazy. Either way is totally cool. But for me that's what I'm looking for is how do I get more of those things in my life? And for any of you guys who have been on this hamster wheel like me and you're running and you're achieving and you're doing the things, I want to give yourself permission to try to do what I'm trying to do, which is okay, how do I get fulfillment? How do I get my hand raised? How do I succeed? And then rest in that moment so I can feel it and I can enjoy it and recharge off it before I go to the next accomplishment. Before I climb the next mountain, before I try to conquer the next demon. So anyway, that's what's on my mind this weekend. Hopefully this helps somebody. Like I said, just not really how to as much as most of my podcast episodes, but hopefully just... Yeah, again, therapy for me to talk it out. So thanks you guys. I appreciate you all for listening and hopefully you have a great day. Talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most achievers I know struggle with truly feeling fulfillment. Some of my thoughts after a long weekend.

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Hey, good morning everybody. This is Russell Brunson, and I want to welcome you back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. I just dropped my kids off at school and I'm slowly exiting the parking lot with a million kids driving, hoping for my life. But I wanted to talk about something that's been on my mind for a little while, which is some of the downsides of being a hyper achiever.

All right everyone, I'm still in the kids' parking lot, trying to get out, but I wanted to talk to you guys today about something that I was thinking about a lot this weekend, and it's interesting. I don't know if you'll learn anything from this, but I think for people who are like me, hopefully you'll feel less alone. And then people who aren't like me, this is me sitting on a couch and you get to be my therapist. So that's kind of the game plan. I hope that's all right.

But what I want to talk about is some of the downsides of being an achiever, especially a hyper achiever. It's been interesting in my life and I wouldn't say all my life. When I was younger, I didn't have much direction or motivation or things I was trying to do. I used to come home from school and we'd watch cartoons and we'd eat Cheerios or Rice Krispies until dinner, and then we'd eat dinner and do homework, and that was kind of end of it. And I tried to play basketball. I tried to do some things, but I wasn't that good at anything. It wasn't until I started wrestling that I had my first identity shift, my first thing where I did something, I was like, oh my gosh, this is who I am. This is who I want to become and that was the day I became an achiever. I don't want to be good, I want to be the best.

In fact, I remember there's an old wrestling movie we used to always watch and it had Tom and Terry brands on it, who, you know who they are they're twin brothers, the wrestled for Iowa, both world champs. One of them was an Olympic champ. And the video started with Tom Brands saying, "My name is Tom Brands and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." And the next scene was Terry Brands. He said, "My name's Terry Brands and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world."

And I remember I used to watch that and think in my head, my name's Russell Brunson and my goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world. And that was my goal and obviously I never met that goal. I never became the greatest wrestler at all time, but I set a high goal and I started working towards it and I killed myself to reach that goal. And I became an achiever so much so where I would do anything. I would cut 30 pounds a week. I was telling my high school kids I literally would come in on Monday at 160 pounds my sophomore year and then Thursday, I weighed at 130. And so yeah, I was losing 30 pounds a week every single week.

I was doing just crazy things. I was working out. I was just wrestling, lifting weights, traveling around the country. Everything I could to reach that goal. And it's interesting. It's like there's something powerful about being a high achiever. You have this drive and you push and you get to accomplish and achieve things. But one of the downsides, probably the biggest downside is it's hard to be content and that's something I've struggled with my whole life.

In fact, I see people who are very content and it's something that I am jealous of. Man, I wish I could just be content. I wish I could just sit there. I wish I could just relax. And the reason I started thinking about this, this weekend is because I start thinking about when in my life have I really felt content? And as hard as I can think, I only remember two times and the first time was in wrestling. And I apologize. I have kind of a cold right now. So if I'm sniffling, that's why. Or if my voice sounds funny.

So the first time that I think I ever felt content was after my junior year and I had set the goal, I wanted to be a state champ. And I had worked towards it, worked towards it, worked towards it and I remember my junior year, I won the state title. And I remember winning it and then in the car driving home, I remember this is 17 year old Russell at the time and I'm driving home and I'm looking around, I'm looking at all the mountains and the scenery outside. And I was like, this is all? And I lived in Utah as a Utah state champ was looking around. I was like this is all of Utah and I'm a state champ. I'm the best in Utah right now. I'm the best in this entire state and I remember feeling so content that I was driving home and just like, ugh, I did it. I achieved that thing.

And the rest of my wrestling career, I was always chasing after goals and dreams. I wanted to be an all American. I did get that. I became an all American, but I wanted to be a national champ and I took second. And then in college I wanted to win this tournament, that tournament. I did well, but I was never a national champ. I was never a PAC-10 champ. I never got to experience the big win again. I won tournaments and things like that, but winning my state title was the big thing and I felt so content afterwards.

And so, but yeah, the rest of my wrestling career, I kept racing, chasing, chasing, chasing, and then eventually I lost and my career ended and that was the end of it. I never achieved that thing. And then for me, I was like, ah, as an achiever, I have to achieve something, and at the time I kind of started my business. And so I shift my focus to business and then I spent the next decade and a half running a business, running a business. And the weirdest thing I remember about business was there was never a time where you got your hand raised. It never ended, just like this continual cycle.

IN wrestling, there would be tons of work and effort towards a goal and then you either win or you lose but it was finite. Where business is this revolving circle, which is good on some ends, because the game you can play for a long, long time. But it was also bad because I never got my hand raised. It never ended. I never felt like I achieved something. In fact, I remember one time, somebody to me, "When did you feel like you made it?" And I was like, "I don't know. I'll let you know if I ever do." I've never felt that way. There's always this constant pressure grind. And I've enjoyed it as an achiever. It's taken me to a lot of places. I've met a lot of cool people, done a lot of cool things, accomplished a lot of cool stuff but it was never a point where I was like, ah.

Even when I go on mastermind trips or retreats or things like that, there's always this anxiety or stress. At Funnel Hacking Live, I always think at the end of it, I'm going to feel like ah, this complacency or that feeling, but I never felt it because as soon it was done, it's like, ah, we sold people in our coaching program. Now I've got to worry about that. And it's just always this cause of stress. Except for one time and the one time was after the 10 X event and some of you guys know this story. I set a goal before we went. I was like, I want to do 3 dollars million dollars in sales because that means I'll net a million. And that event was the perfect storm where we said the whole thing, the presentation just killed it and we ended up doing $3.2 million dollars in sales.

And there was this moment after the pitch was done, and I stood in line for six hours taking pictures of everyone. And Collette and I went back to our room and we were so tired and I remember laying in bed and we took this picture of us just laying in bed, smiling together. And then we passed out for four hours. And that was the second time in my life I can remember being content where I was just like, ah, we did it. I set a big goal, achieved it and then it was done. And then I remember that night after we woke up, we went back into the room where everyone was processing the money and counting all the order forms and it just felt complete. It was final. I set the goal, I achieved it and I got a break. I had a chance to rest. And those are the two times in my life. Isn't that funny?

Two times in life where I felt like I could rest where I was just like, oh, like I did it. And the rest of my life has been running and sprinting. And I don't know about you, but for me it's always like, when my book's done, then I'll have a chance to rest or when the event's done, or when the thing or whatever. But each of those as I finish one, it starts the next thing. We finish the book and then we start the book promotion. Then we finish the promotion and then we got to start the backend sales and the backend sales to the event and then the event to the next thing and it just keeps going and going. And I never felt that feeling of it being done, of just ah, it's finished. And yeah, like I said, only two times in my life I can remember feeling that feeling.

So being an achiever, like I said, it's amazing because it gives you a chance to run and to achieve things and experience things and it makes your life very fulfilling. I feel like my life is very colorful. I feel good at painting this beautiful, amazing thing. And I love it. But the thing that I miss is the downtime, the quietness, that feeling of ah, you did it. I feel like that's probably what I've been chasing for so long.

Some of you guys know I started my next book probably over a year ago now dang. And the subtitle to the book was going to be The Art of Achievement. Or excuse me, The Science of Achievement, the Art of Fulfillment because that's what I wanted the book to be about. And it was interesting because the parts where I was writing about achievement was really easy for me to write, the Science of Achievement. Here's how we do it. That part was really easy. And then every time we got to the Art of Fulfillment, that part was really, really difficult for me. I struggled writing those things so much so that I ended up stopping writing that book. And I was like, you know what? I don't know how to be fulfilled. I haven't felt that. I don't feel content. I don't feel fulfilled all the time. I'm still trying to figure this out.

So I've actually changed the whole book where the book now, I change the title as well. The new book is going to be called Secrets of Success and it's going to be about achievement, about success. How do you get these things? Because that's what I've mastered, but I understand that I'm good at. But the fulfilling part, I don't know yet. I understand pieces of it. I understand the psychology, I understand things, but I haven't been able to really feel that often in my life. And so I'm saving that book or that part of the book for a later year in my life where I have a chance to figure those things out.

So anyway, this weekend for me was interesting because I sat down and I had this chance to start thinking through how do I feel fulfilled? How do I feel content? What is that thing? And that's when the whole thought came. In my life when have I felt content? And the only times I could think about was I won the state title and when I did the 3.2 million in sales at the 10 X event. The two times I felt I like I could rest and I feel like I'm chasing something, looking for that next time to rest.

And so I think for me and I'll report back on this because I'm going to try to set goals that have a celebration time. When you achieve this thing, you did this, this, and now you get to rest. Take a day off or do whatever. I don't take any days off and when I do, I'm usually stressing out because the next thing's in the way or things are happening, you know what I mean?

So anyway, that's the pros of the cons of being an achiever. I'm sure some of you guys relate to that. Some of you guys think I'm crazy. Either way is totally cool. But for me that's what I'm looking for is how do I get more of those things in my life? And for any of you guys who have been on this hamster wheel like me and you're running and you're achieving and you're doing the things, I want to give yourself permission to try to do what I'm trying to do, which is okay, how do I get fulfillment? How do I get my hand raised? How do I succeed? And then rest in that moment so I can feel it and I can enjoy it and recharge off it before I go to the next accomplishment. Before I climb the next mountain, before I try to conquer the next demon.

So anyway, that's what's on my mind this weekend. Hopefully this helps somebody. Like I said, just not really how to as much as most of my podcast episodes, but hopefully just... Yeah, again, therapy for me to talk it out. So thanks you guys. I appreciate you all for listening and hopefully you have a great day. Talk soon.

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]]> 809 no Geometric Funnel Growth... The Real Secret To Scale https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/geometric-funnel-growth-the-real-secret-to-scale If you want to stop playing checkers and start playing chess, listen to today’s episode. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Good morning everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today I want to talk about something interesting, about when you have a success and you have a win, how to take that and roll it on to geometrically grow everything else you did inside your business. So I hope you guys are awesome today. It's been snowing here in Boise, and then today it's been raining so it's all slushy, and I've had fun driving kids to school this morning. This is one of my favorite things, is to drive them and have a chance to talk to them. It makes me sad because my twins are about to get their licenses and then I'll probably not get to drive them anymore. But until they do, I'm enjoying it and it's just really fun. Just dropped off Aiden, my little man, at school and have a few minutes while I'm heading back to the office. And I was thinking about something that I thought would be helpful for all of you guys, because I don't see this happen enough. In fact, I noticed with a lot of us entrepreneurs, we do something that works really good and then we move on to the next thing as opposed to being like, "Hey, that worked really good. We should do more of that, or we should focus on that, or we should go deeper on that." A good example just happened recently. As you guys know, I bought Dan Kennedy's company and then we relaunched it last month. The relaunch went really, really well. And the way we launched it is we took ... it was a concept that Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer did back 15, 18, I don't know how many years ago, when Bill first bought the company. The company's basically a newsletter company, it had the Magnetic Marketing newsletter. And so when Bill bought it, he was like, "I want to grow this" so he created something that he called the MIFGE. I talked about it on the podcast before, stands for Most Incredible Free Gift Ever. And they launched it and that's how the newsletter grew originally. And then they sold the company to private equity firms, who as a rule are not very good at actually marketing the way that we all market. And they ran the business to the ground over the next decade. So I had a chance to buy it out of that. And the first thing I did is, well, what worked in the past? Oh, the MIFGE, we should remake the MIFGE. So we built the MIFGE, we launched it, and from the MIFGE we added over 4000 new paying members into the newsletter. So I want to do the math on that for you, because it makes this really interesting. And obviously people are going to cancel, but let's just say they don't. So we added 4000 people at $97 a month. That's $400,000 a month, times 12 months in a year, that's an extra 4.8 million dollar-a-year business we launched in a weekend by creating a really good MIFGE offer. That's awesome. And again, like I said, there's going to be a churn and things are going to drop, we're also going to start buying ads to it. The funnel converted extremely well. I think I talked about that, if not... Hopefully you signed up through the funnel and you got the first January's newsletter because I break down the funnel. But we're averaging 200 and something dollars for every free trial. So I can spend $200 to get a free trial and still be profitable, which is insane. And now it's making that business where we can start growing it and scaling it, and I think by summertime I could have 10,000 members in there, pay $97 a month which is a million dollar-a-month business on info product, a newsletter. It's insane. And so for me, I am the worst at keeping secrets, that's why all my books are called DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets, because I just tell everyone my secrets. And on the podcast I shared this, in the first issue of the newsletter I'm sharing it. I'm not good at keeping secrets. But it's interesting because I'll share that with most people and like, "oh that's so cool, that's awesome." And then they don't do anything with it. I have somebody who I love and respect who I shared it with, probably one of the first people I shared it with, and I thought they were going to grab it and take it. And then I saw their next offer run out and they could have done the model that I did with the offer they did. It would've fit. It would've been a simple tweak to make it match that, and then they didn't. And they launched something and they didn't follow the model and I was like, "man, if somebody told me that they had a funnel that was averaging 200 and ... $230, it might have been ... Anyway, insane EPC, average cart value. It isn't my market, it's something similar. I would look at that, I would've funnel hacked it and I would've called an audible before I launched my funnel and made tweaks and changes based on it. But they didn't, they just said, "oh wow, that's amazing, that's so cool." And then they went on. And I'm sure a lot of you guys heard me talk about it and you're like, "oh, that's so cool" and then you went on. The way to leverage this stuff, to leverage my wins, to leverage your wins, to leverage what's working in the market is to not do that. So for example, we launched the MIFGE offer, it killed it. We had an urgency and scarcity where it closed down for two weeks or something like that. I think it just went back live a day or two ago. If you go to noBSletter.com, you can see the funnel. But after we shut it down, the first question was "man, that works really good. We should create a MIFGE for ClickFunnels." That was the first thing. "It worked here, let's do it again." Where most people are like "That worked awesome", and then they move on to the next thing and they forget about the success. So we sat down and said, "how would we make a MIFGE for ClickFunnels? What would that look like? How do we make it so the offers are irresistible, so it gets people to stick longer? So it gets our average cart value up front higher?" Right now, for me to get a ClickFunnels trial, just so you guys know, in paid media, for my paid ads, it costs me $300. Between 250 and $300, depending on a lot of things, to get somebody to sign up for free ClickFunnels trial. Which is fine because our lifetime value of a customer is really, really high so we can do it. But it's a float. It takes me three to four months. And honestly longer than that, because you have churn and breakage and all that kind of stuff. It takes a good almost a year to break even from me buying to get someone to sign up for a ClickFunnels trial, which is fine. But if I could tweak my front end funnel so that I was making 250, $300 for every trial we signed up, now I break even immediately and now guess what? I can out-scale everybody once again. And so I'm like, "how do I do that?" Well, we need a ClickFunnels MIFGE offer. And so that's what we did. We spent three hours, in a room, "how do we make a ClickFunnels most incredible free gift ever?" That's what MIFGE stands for. Most Incredible Free Gift Ever. And we structured it, we sat down and we mapped it out, and we're like, "now we have this, what's the hook? What's the story? Why are we doing this? What's the offer? What do we send them in the mail so we can get the physical address? How do we build community? How do we build culture? How do we weave all that stuff into an incredible offer?" And when it was done, we literally mapped it out. And I sat there and I was like, "oh my gosh, this will change ClickFunnels forever." And it's so simple. It's nothing complicated. All of us make good offers. We sell something. But looking at it through the lens of the most incredible free gift ever, and then looking at the funnel we built for the Dan Kennedy company and how high the average cart value and how high the EPCs were, how high everything was. It's like, okay, let's take this model and let's replicate it over here. And so for you guys, I just want you to understand when I share something, I'm excited and I'm ... it's not like, "oh cool, Russell. That's awesome." It should be like, "okay, how do I implement this in my business?" That'd be the first question I'd be asking myself instantly, is how do I take this and do it, because it's awesome? I want to put that out there, because I see a lot of people who don't do those kind of things. Like when we launched the Traffic Secrets book funnel, it was the highest converting book funnel I'd done to date. It was awesome. And so instead of being like, "man, that's awesome. The Traffic Secrets book funnel's great." I said, "okay, what did we learn on this? What was the layout? The style, design, the tweak… like what did we do different in this one than the other ones?" We took those things and we moved them and we took all those best practices, all things we figured out. And we did them on the other book funnels. We went backwards in time. Now all the book funnels match the model and they're all converting high. And right now we're in the process of re-tweaking with the book funnels to try to increase the cart value. And we're trying things and tweaking things and testing things. As soon as we get it to work, then guess what we're going to do instantly? Take those changes and roll them across all the book funnels. So I want you guys to understand that's how you double down on these things, how you get consistently better. Geometrically better, not just incrementally. A lot of people have incremental wins. They add this thing, they get a little better, add this thing, they get a little bit better. Whereas I'm looking at geometry, how do we geometrically grow what we're doing? Because I don't want to go from $150 million to $170 million. That's not inspiring or exciting or anything. I want to go from $150 million to $300 million. How do you do that? You don't do it by playing checkers. You do it by playing chess. Geometrically thinking differently, strategically. When you have a win, you got to compound that win upon the other win as opposed to just "oh, we had a win. Cool." And the moving on to the next thing. Everything needs to compound and increase and get better and get better. But to do that, it takes you becoming passionate about this. I've talked about this a lot over the years. You got to become more passionate about the marketing of your thing than you do about the thing. All of us have the thing that we're selling, that we're in love with, the reason why we got in this business. But if you really love that thing, whatever your product, your service, your message is. If you really love that, you have to become obsessed with the selling of that thing. One of the biggest mistakes I see influencers and people do is that they love their thing. They're having success and they want to go hire a funnel builder. They want to outsource it to somebody else. They want to ... "who do I hire to become a marketing team? Who can I outsource this to?" And it's like, "ah, you're missing it. That's the best part, to figure out how to get your thing into people's hands." If you become obsessed with that part of it, that's how you really grow and scale and dramatically grow your companies. So for all you guys who are listening, I wanted to look at that lens of number one, when I'm dropping gold, when I'm dropping like, "this funnel's killing it." Funnel hack it, look at it. And then look at your old funnels. "How do I weave this model in?" That's number one. Number two, same thing for yourself. When you have a win, don't just be like "cool. That was awesome." Go back and roll that win across everything else so you can geometrically grow everything you're doing. And number three, become obsessed with this game. Again, the ones who are winning at the highest level are the ones who obsess. They keep going into this and keep figuring things out and they have so much fun with it. And then they layer it on and they do the next thing and the next thing, and that's when you can really have fun and enjoy this. So I hope that helps. I hope that gets your mind thinking a little bit differently. If it does, and you enjoyed this, then please let me know. All right. Thanks you guys for listening, I appreciate you. Thanks for listening to this podcast. And by the way, if you haven't heard yet, with the launch of Danny Kennedy's company, we launched the Magnetic Marketing Podcast, which is basically, I found tons of old Danny Kennedy presentations from the last 20 years or so. Him speaking at info summits, him on the gold and the diamond CDs and all these things that were lost in the archives. I started going through them. I'm like, "these are amazing. I don't know how to sell these. 'Here's a CD interview of Dan talking for an hour about wealth creation or whatever'." It's amazing, but it's not a product, really. I was like, "what do I do with these things?" And so I decided to give them to you guys for free. And so we created a podcast called the Magnetic Marketing Podcast. And if you go to MagneticMarketingPodcast.com, you can subscribe to it there. And then you get hardcore raw Dan Kennedy interviews and audios once a week, which are ... they're really, really good. So I recommend doing that and diving into Danny. I love him. He's a little ornery, but man, he's brilliant. So anyway, there you go. There's an old Magnetic Marketing Podcast that the old company had ran, which was a bunch of people talking about Dan, which I did not love. And so if you search in the podcast search engine, you might find the old one. If you go to MagneticMarketingPodcast.com, that's the right one. And you'll know because there's a cool picture of Dan Kennedy in black and white, and looks amazing. He looks like the tough guy that he is. So anyway, that said, thanks, you guys so much for listening. Hope you enjoyed this podcast, hope you enjoy Dan's podcast as well, and I will talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000 Geometric Funnel Growth... The Real Secret To Scale full 483 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you want to stop playing checkers and start playing chess, listen to today’s episode. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Good morning everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing... If you want to stop playing checkers and start playing chess, listen to today’s episode. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Good morning everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today I want to talk about something interesting, about when you have a success and you have a win, how to take that and roll it on to geometrically grow everything else you did inside your business. So I hope you guys are awesome today. It's been snowing here in Boise, and then today it's been raining so it's all slushy, and I've had fun driving kids to school this morning. This is one of my favorite things, is to drive them and have a chance to talk to them. It makes me sad because my twins are about to get their licenses and then I'll probably not get to drive them anymore. But until they do, I'm enjoying it and it's just really fun. Just dropped off Aiden, my little man, at school and have a few minutes while I'm heading back to the office. And I was thinking about something that I thought would be helpful for all of you guys, because I don't see this happen enough. In fact, I noticed with a lot of us entrepreneurs, we do something that works really good and then we move on to the next thing as opposed to being like, "Hey, that worked really good. We should do more of that, or we should focus on that, or we should go deeper on that." A good example just happened recently. As you guys know, I bought Dan Kennedy's company and then we relaunched it last month. The relaunch went really, really well. And the way we launched it is we took ... it was a concept that Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer did back 15, 18, I don't know how many years ago, when Bill first bought the company. The company's basically a newsletter company, it had the Magnetic Marketing newsletter. And so when Bill bought it, he was like, "I want to grow this" so he created something that he called the MIFGE. I talked about it on the podcast before, stands for Most Incredible Free Gift Ever. And they launched it and that's how the newsletter grew originally. And then they sold the company to private equity firms, who as a rule are not very good at actually marketing the way that we all market. And they ran the business to the ground over the next decade. So I had a chance to buy it out of that. And the first thing I did is, well, what worked in the past? Oh, the MIFGE, we should remake the MIFGE. So we built the MIFGE, we launched it, and from the MIFGE we added over 4000 new paying members into the newsletter. So I want to do the math on that for you, because it makes this really interesting. And obviously people are going to cancel, but let's just say they don't. So we added 4000 people at $97 a month. That's $400,000 a month, times 12 months in a year, that's an extra 4.8 million dollar-a-year business we launched in a weekend by creating a really good MIFGE offer. That's awesome. And again, like I said, there's going to be a churn and things are going to drop, we're also going to start buying ads to it. The funnel converted extremely well. I think I talked about that, if not... Hopefully you signed up through the funnel and you got the first January's newsletter because I break down the funnel. But we're averaging 200 and something dollars for every free trial. So I can spend $200 to get a free trial and still be profitable, which is insane. And now it's making that business where we can start growing it and scaling it, and I think by summertime I could have 10,000 members in there, pay $97 a month which is a million dollar-a-month business on info product, a newsletter. It's insane. And so for me, I am the worst at keeping secrets, that's why all my books are called DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets, because I just tell everyone my secrets. And on the podcast I shared this, in the first issue of the newsletter I'm sharing it. I'm not good at keeping secrets. But it's interesting because I'll share that with most people and like, "oh that's so cool, that's awesome." And then they don't do anything with it. I have somebody who I love and respect who I shared it with, probably one of the first people I shared it with, and I thought they were going to grab it and take it. And then I saw their next offer run out and they could have done the model that I did with the offer they did. It would've fit. It would've been a simple tweak to make it match that, and then they didn't. And they launched something and they didn't follow the model and I was like, "man, if somebody told me that they had a funnel that was averaging 200 and ... $230, it might have been ... Anyway, insane EPC, average cart value. It isn't my market, it's something similar. I would look at that, I would've funnel hacked it and I would've called an audible before I launched my funnel and made tweaks and changes based on it. But they didn't, they just said, "oh wow, that's amazing, that's so cool." And then they went on. And I'm sure a lot of you guys heard me talk about it and you're like, "oh, that's so cool" and then you went on. The way to leverage this stuff, to leverage my wins, to leverage your wins, to leverage what's working in the market is to not do that. So for example, we launched the MIFGE offer, it killed it. We had an urgency and scarcity where it closed down for two weeks or something like that. I think it just went back live a day or two ago. If you go to noBSletter.com, you can see the funnel. But after we shut it down, the first question was "man, that works really good. We should create a MIFGE for ClickFunnels." That was the first thing. "It worked here, let's do it again." Where most people are like "That worked awesome", and then they move on to the next thing and they forget about the success. So we sat down and said, "how would we make a MIFGE for ClickFunnels? What would that look like? How do we make it so the offers are irresistible, so it gets people to stick longer? So it gets our average cart value up front higher?" Right now, for me to get a ClickFunnels trial, just so you guys know, in paid media, for my paid ads, it costs me $300. Between 250 and $300, depending on a lot of things, to get somebody to sign up for free ClickFunnels trial. Which is fine because our lifetime value of a customer is really, really high so we can do it. But it's a float. It takes me three to four months. And honestly longer than that, because you have churn and breakage and all that kind of stuff. It takes a good almost a year to break even from me buying to get someone to sign up for a ClickFunnels trial, which is fine. But if I could tweak my front end funnel so that I was making 250, $300 for every trial we signed up, now I break even immediately and now guess what? I can out-scale everybody once again. And so I'm like, "how do I do that?" Well, we need a ClickFunnels MIFGE offer. And so that's what we did. We spent three hours, in a room, "how do we make a ClickFunnels most incredible free gift ever?" That's what MIFGE stands for. Most Incredible Free Gift Ever. And we structured it, we sat down and we mapped it out, and we're like, "now we have this, what's the hook? What's the story? Why are we doing this? What's the offer? What do we send them in the mail so we can get the physical address? How do we build community? How do we build culture? How do we weave all that stuff into an incredible offer?" And when it was done, we literally mapped it out. And I sat there and I was like, "oh my gosh, this will change ClickFunnels forever." And it's so simple. It's nothing complicated. All of us make good offers. We sell something. But looking at it through the lens of the most incredible free gift ever, and then looking at the funnel we built for the Dan Kennedy company and how high the average cart value and how high the EPCs were, how high everything was. It's like, okay, let's take this model and let's replicate it over here. And so for you guys, I just want you to understand when I share something, I'm excited and I'm ... it's not like, "oh cool, Russell. That's awesome." It should be like, "okay, how do I implement this in my business?" That'd be the first question I'd be asking myself instantly, is how do I take this and do it, because it's awesome? I want to put that out there, because I see a lot of people who don't do those kind of things. Like when we launched the Traffic Secrets book funnel, it was the highest converting book funnel I'd done to date. It was awesome. And so instead of being like, "man, that's awesome. The Traffic Secrets book funnel's great." I said, "okay, what did we learn on this? What was the layout? The style, design, the tweak… like what did we do different in this one than the other ones?" We took those things and we moved them and we took all those best practices, all things we figured out. And we did them on the other book funnels. We went backwards in time. Now all the book funnels match the model and they're all converting high. And right now we're in the process of re-tweaking with the book funnels to try to increase the cart value. And we're trying things and tweaking things and testing things. As soon as we get it to work, then guess what we're going to do instantly? Take those changes and roll them across all the book funnels. So I want you guys to understand that's how you double down on these things, how you get consistently better. Geometrically better, not just incrementally. A lot of people have incremental wins. They add this thing, they get a little better, add this thing, they get a little bit better. Whereas I'm looking at geometry, how do we geometrically grow what we're doing? Because I don't want to go from $150 million to $170 million. That's not inspiring or exciting or anything. I want to go from $150 million to $300 million. How do you do that? You don't do it by playing checkers. You do it by playing chess. Geometrically thinking differently, strategically. When you have a win, you got to compound that win upon the other win as opposed to just "oh, we had a win. Cool." And the moving on to the next thing. Everything needs to compound and increase and get better and get better. But to do that, it takes you becoming passionate about this. I've talked about this a lot over the years. You got to become more passionate about the marketing of your thing than you do about the thing. All of us have the thing that we're selling, that we're in love with, the reason why we got in this business. But if you really love that thing, whatever your product, your service, your message is. If you really love that, you have to become obsessed with the selling of that thing. One of the biggest mistakes I see influencers and people do is that they love their thing. They're having success and they want to go hire a funnel builder. They want to outsource it to somebody else. They want to ... "who do I hire to become a marketing team? Who can I outsource this to?" And it's like, "ah, you're missing it. That's the best part, to figure out how to get your thing into people's hands." If you become obsessed with that part of it, that's how you really grow and scale and dramatically grow your companies. So for all you guys who are listening, I wanted to look at that lens of number one, when I'm dropping gold, when I'm dropping like, "this funnel's killing it." Funnel hack it, look at it. And then look at your old funnels. "How do I weave this model in?" That's number one. Number two, same thing for yourself. When you have a win, don't just be like "cool. That was awesome." Go back and roll that win across everything else so you can geometrically grow everything you're doing. And number three, become obsessed with this game. Again, the ones who are winning at the highest level are the ones who obsess. They keep going into this and keep figuring things out and they have so much fun with it. And then they layer it on and they do the next thing and the next thing, and that's when you can really have fun and enjoy this. So I hope that helps. I hope that gets your mind thinking a little bit differently. If it does, and you enjoyed this, then please let me know. All right. Thanks you guys for listening, I appreciate you. Thanks for listening to this podcast. And by the way, if you haven't heard yet, with the launch of Danny Kennedy's company, we launched the Magnetic Marketing Podcast, which is basically, I found tons of old Danny Kennedy presentations from the last 20 years or so. Him speaking at info summits, him on the gold and the diamond CDs and all these things that were lost in the archives. I started going through them. I'm like, "these are amazing. I don't know how to sell these. 'Here's a CD interview of Dan talking for an hour about wealth creation or whatever'." It's amazing, but it's not a product, really. I was like, "what do I do with these things?" And so I decided to give them to you guys for free. And so we created a podcast called the Magnetic Marketing Podcast. And if you go to MagneticMarketingPodcast.com, you can subscribe to it there. And then you get hardcore raw Dan Kennedy interviews and audios once a week, which are ... they're really, really good. So I recommend doing that and diving into Danny. I love him. He's a little ornery, but man, he's brilliant. So anyway, there you go. There's an old Magnetic Marketing Podcast that the old company had ran, which was a bunch of people talking about Dan, which I did not love. And so if you search in the podcast search engine, you might find the old one. If you go to MagneticMarketingPodcast.com, that's the right one. And you'll know because there's a cool picture of Dan Kennedy in black and white, and looks amazing. He looks like the tough guy that he is. So anyway, that said, thanks, you guys so much for listening. Hope you enjoyed this podcast, hope you enjoy Dan's podcast as well, and I will talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you want to stop playing checkers and start playing chess, listen to today’s episode.

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Good morning everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today I want to talk about something interesting, about when you have a success and you have a win, how to take that and roll it on to geometrically grow everything else you did inside your business.

So I hope you guys are awesome today. It's been snowing here in Boise, and then today it's been raining so it's all slushy, and I've had fun driving kids to school this morning. This is one of my favorite things, is to drive them and have a chance to talk to them. It makes me sad because my twins are about to get their licenses and then I'll probably not get to drive them anymore. But until they do, I'm enjoying it and it's just really fun.

Just dropped off Aiden, my little man, at school and have a few minutes while I'm heading back to the office. And I was thinking about something that I thought would be helpful for all of you guys, because I don't see this happen enough. In fact, I noticed with a lot of us entrepreneurs, we do something that works really good and then we move on to the next thing as opposed to being like, "Hey, that worked really good. We should do more of that, or we should focus on that, or we should go deeper on that."

A good example just happened recently. As you guys know, I bought Dan Kennedy's company and then we relaunched it last month. The relaunch went really, really well. And the way we launched it is we took ... it was a concept that Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer did back 15, 18, I don't know how many years ago, when Bill first bought the company. The company's basically a newsletter company, it had the Magnetic Marketing newsletter. And so when Bill bought it, he was like, "I want to grow this" so he created something that he called the MIFGE. I talked about it on the podcast before, stands for Most Incredible Free Gift Ever. And they launched it and that's how the newsletter grew originally. And then they sold the company to private equity firms, who as a rule are not very good at actually marketing the way that we all market. And they ran the business to the ground over the next decade.

So I had a chance to buy it out of that. And the first thing I did is, well, what worked in the past? Oh, the MIFGE, we should remake the MIFGE. So we built the MIFGE, we launched it, and from the MIFGE we added over 4000 new paying members into the newsletter. So I want to do the math on that for you, because it makes this really interesting. And obviously people are going to cancel, but let's just say they don't. So we added 4000 people at $97 a month. That's $400,000 a month, times 12 months in a year, that's an extra 4.8 million dollar-a-year business we launched in a weekend by creating a really good MIFGE offer. That's awesome. And again, like I said, there's going to be a churn and things are going to drop, we're also going to start buying ads to it. The funnel converted extremely well.

I think I talked about that, if not... Hopefully you signed up through the funnel and you got the first January's newsletter because I break down the funnel. But we're averaging 200 and something dollars for every free trial. So I can spend $200 to get a free trial and still be profitable, which is insane. And now it's making that business where we can start growing it and scaling it, and I think by summertime I could have 10,000 members in there, pay $97 a month which is a million dollar-a-month business on info product, a newsletter. It's insane.

And so for me, I am the worst at keeping secrets, that's why all my books are called DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets, because I just tell everyone my secrets. And on the podcast I shared this, in the first issue of the newsletter I'm sharing it. I'm not good at keeping secrets. But it's interesting because I'll share that with most people and like, "oh that's so cool, that's awesome." And then they don't do anything with it. I have somebody who I love and respect who I shared it with, probably one of the first people I shared it with, and I thought they were going to grab it and take it. And then I saw their next offer run out and they could have done the model that I did with the offer they did. It would've fit.

It would've been a simple tweak to make it match that, and then they didn't. And they launched something and they didn't follow the model and I was like, "man, if somebody told me that they had a funnel that was averaging 200 and ... $230, it might have been ... Anyway, insane EPC, average cart value. It isn't my market, it's something similar. I would look at that, I would've funnel hacked it and I would've called an audible before I launched my funnel and made tweaks and changes based on it. But they didn't, they just said, "oh wow, that's amazing, that's so cool." And then they went on.

And I'm sure a lot of you guys heard me talk about it and you're like, "oh, that's so cool" and then you went on. The way to leverage this stuff, to leverage my wins, to leverage your wins, to leverage what's working in the market is to not do that. So for example, we launched the MIFGE offer, it killed it. We had an urgency and scarcity where it closed down for two weeks or something like that. I think it just went back live a day or two ago. If you go to noBSletter.com, you can see the funnel. But after we shut it down, the first question was "man, that works really good. We should create a MIFGE for ClickFunnels." That was the first thing. "It worked here, let's do it again." Where most people are like "That worked awesome", and then they move on to the next thing and they forget about the success.

So we sat down and said, "how would we make a MIFGE for ClickFunnels? What would that look like? How do we make it so the offers are irresistible, so it gets people to stick longer? So it gets our average cart value up front higher?" Right now, for me to get a ClickFunnels trial, just so you guys know, in paid media, for my paid ads, it costs me $300. Between 250 and $300, depending on a lot of things, to get somebody to sign up for free ClickFunnels trial. Which is fine because our lifetime value of a customer is really, really high so we can do it. But it's a float. It takes me three to four months. And honestly longer than that, because you have churn and breakage and all that kind of stuff.

It takes a good almost a year to break even from me buying to get someone to sign up for a ClickFunnels trial, which is fine. But if I could tweak my front end funnel so that I was making 250, $300 for every trial we signed up, now I break even immediately and now guess what? I can out-scale everybody once again. And so I'm like, "how do I do that?" Well, we need a ClickFunnels MIFGE offer. And so that's what we did. We spent three hours, in a room, "how do we make a ClickFunnels most incredible free gift ever?" That's what MIFGE stands for. Most Incredible Free Gift Ever. And we structured it, we sat down and we mapped it out, and we're like, "now we have this, what's the hook? What's the story? Why are we doing this? What's the offer? What do we send them in the mail so we can get the physical address? How do we build community? How do we build culture? How do we weave all that stuff into an incredible offer?" And when it was done, we literally mapped it out. And I sat there and I was like, "oh my gosh, this will change ClickFunnels forever."

And it's so simple. It's nothing complicated. All of us make good offers. We sell something. But looking at it through the lens of the most incredible free gift ever, and then looking at the funnel we built for the Dan Kennedy company and how high the average cart value and how high the EPCs were, how high everything was. It's like, okay, let's take this model and let's replicate it over here. And so for you guys, I just want you to understand when I share something, I'm excited and I'm ... it's not like, "oh cool, Russell. That's awesome." It should be like, "okay, how do I implement this in my business?" That'd be the first question I'd be asking myself instantly, is how do I take this and do it, because it's awesome?

I want to put that out there, because I see a lot of people who don't do those kind of things. Like when we launched the Traffic Secrets book funnel, it was the highest converting book funnel I'd done to date. It was awesome. And so instead of being like, "man, that's awesome. The Traffic Secrets book funnel's great." I said, "okay, what did we learn on this? What was the layout? The style, design, the tweak… like what did we do different in this one than the other ones?" We took those things and we moved them and we took all those best practices, all things we figured out. And we did them on the other book funnels.

We went backwards in time. Now all the book funnels match the model and they're all converting high. And right now we're in the process of re-tweaking with the book funnels to try to increase the cart value. And we're trying things and tweaking things and testing things. As soon as we get it to work, then guess what we're going to do instantly? Take those changes and roll them across all the book funnels. So I want you guys to understand that's how you double down on these things, how you get consistently better. Geometrically better, not just incrementally. A lot of people have incremental wins. They add this thing, they get a little better, add this thing, they get a little bit better. Whereas I'm looking at geometry, how do we geometrically grow what we're doing?

Because I don't want to go from $150 million to $170 million. That's not inspiring or exciting or anything. I want to go from $150 million to $300 million. How do you do that? You don't do it by playing checkers. You do it by playing chess. Geometrically thinking differently, strategically. When you have a win, you got to compound that win upon the other win as opposed to just "oh, we had a win. Cool." And the moving on to the next thing. Everything needs to compound and increase and get better and get better. But to do that, it takes you becoming passionate about this. I've talked about this a lot over the years. You got to become more passionate about the marketing of your thing than you do about the thing.

All of us have the thing that we're selling, that we're in love with, the reason why we got in this business. But if you really love that thing, whatever your product, your service, your message is. If you really love that, you have to become obsessed with the selling of that thing. One of the biggest mistakes I see influencers and people do is that they love their thing. They're having success and they want to go hire a funnel builder. They want to outsource it to somebody else. They want to ... "who do I hire to become a marketing team? Who can I outsource this to?" And it's like, "ah, you're missing it. That's the best part, to figure out how to get your thing into people's hands." If you become obsessed with that part of it, that's how you really grow and scale and dramatically grow your companies.

So for all you guys who are listening, I wanted to look at that lens of number one, when I'm dropping gold, when I'm dropping like, "this funnel's killing it." Funnel hack it, look at it. And then look at your old funnels. "How do I weave this model in?" That's number one. Number two, same thing for yourself. When you have a win, don't just be like "cool. That was awesome." Go back and roll that win across everything else so you can geometrically grow everything you're doing. And number three, become obsessed with this game. Again, the ones who are winning at the highest level are the ones who obsess. They keep going into this and keep figuring things out and they have so much fun with it. And then they layer it on and they do the next thing and the next thing, and that's when you can really have fun and enjoy this. So I hope that helps.

I hope that gets your mind thinking a little bit differently. If it does, and you enjoyed this, then please let me know.

All right. Thanks you guys for listening, I appreciate you. Thanks for listening to this podcast. And by the way, if you haven't heard yet, with the launch of Danny Kennedy's company, we launched the Magnetic Marketing Podcast, which is basically, I found tons of old Danny Kennedy presentations from the last 20 years or so. Him speaking at info summits, him on the gold and the diamond CDs and all these things that were lost in the archives. I started going through them. I'm like, "these are amazing. I don't know how to sell these. 'Here's a CD interview of Dan talking for an hour about wealth creation or whatever'." It's amazing, but it's not a product, really. I was like, "what do I do with these things?" And so I decided to give them to you guys for free.

And so we created a podcast called the Magnetic Marketing Podcast. And if you go to MagneticMarketingPodcast.com, you can subscribe to it there. And then you get hardcore raw Dan Kennedy interviews and audios once a week, which are ... they're really, really good. So I recommend doing that and diving into Danny. I love him. He's a little ornery, but man, he's brilliant. So anyway, there you go.

There's an old Magnetic Marketing Podcast that the old company had ran, which was a bunch of people talking about Dan, which I did not love. And so if you search in the podcast search engine, you might find the old one. If you go to MagneticMarketingPodcast.com, that's the right one. And you'll know because there's a cool picture of Dan Kennedy in black and white, and looks amazing. He looks like the tough guy that he is. So anyway, that said, thanks, you guys so much for listening. Hope you enjoyed this podcast, hope you enjoy Dan's podcast as well, and I will talk to you soon.

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]]> 810 no How To Build A Great Team…The Right Way https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-build-a-great-teamthe-right-way The skill set for building an effective team is WAY different than the skills needed for marketing and sales. For one, you have to learn how to become a true LEADER. So the two key questions to ask yourself are 1. Who do you have to become to lead a great team? And 2. What are the critical strategies you need to implement to get your team onboard to follow your vision? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everyone? This is Russell, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today's episode, we're going to be talking about building a team. How do you do it? What are the pitfalls? What are the pros, the cons? And some of the things that I learned along the way. Hopefully this'll help you as you're building out your team to be able to do whatever it is you're trying to do in your life. Whatever your mission, whatever your goal, whatever the business you're trying to build. I hope that this episode will help you as you're thinking through it, to help you to build the team that's going to get you to the finish line. So with that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song. We come back, you have a chance to listen in on a cool interview, talking about how to build your team. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast, I'm here today with Josh Forti and we've been having fun today. The last two episodes- Josh Forti: We have. Russell: We recorded went longer, but- Josh: It's been fun. Russell: I think they've been fun. So today will be a little bit shorter episode, but it's something that, again, Josh brings things that I don't ever really typically talk about. So it's been fun to talk about some of the stuff like I think about, but I've never really verbally shared. So do you want to set up what we were talking about today? Josh: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so very specifically here, I want to focus for you specifically. The question is, well, leadership and team building, what are some of the biggest shifts around building a team and becoming a leader? Because as someone who built a team myself that failed miserably, it wasn't that we hated each other, but it's just like, it was chaos. When you're trying to manage like six or seven different people and they're all like contracting everywhere. And now I'm like kind of going back and rebuilding. And I'm building it right and I have full-time people that we're bringing in and going. And it's like, man, the skillset of making money, the skillset of being a marketer is way so totally different- Russell: Yeah. Josh: Than building a team. And even being like the attractive character and building a following, like building a following is a completely different skillset than it is of growing a team and being a leader and things like that. And so I guess like two part is number one, who did you have to become? And like, secondly, what are like some of the hacks, tips, or I know you like secrets. So what are some of the secrets that you use to build a team and really like sell them on the vision and like really make sure that they were thriving in that role? Russell: Cool. So I want to just second what you said, building a team is way different than all the other things. And I've struggled over the years. I have an amazing team, as you guys know, if you've seen everything. And I wouldn't say most of it's because of my own doing, I'll talk about some of the stuff I've learned along the way. But it's a different skillset. And I think making money is an easier skill, I think creating a movement of people that are following you is different. I always tell people, like I'm such a good leader and communicator to like my tribe and I'm not as good to my internal team. It's interesting. And so a couple things that I'll share again, I don't have this perfect. And if you ask people on my team, like Russell's not perfect at this because I'm not. But I'll share some of the things I've learned because I'm always trying to figure this out and trying to get better at it. One of the biggest lessons I had and I did a podcast on this probably two or three years ago. Was this realization that I had to make a transition. Because I was always like the All Star. Like if you look at basketball, like I was the All Star, like I was really good. I could write copy, I could build a funnel, I could drive traffic, I could sell from stage, I could do all the different things. And so I was like, Michael Jordan out there and I'd be on stage, I'd be doing, I'd be dunking and slamming and three points. And like just amazing and people would tell me how great I was and I loved it. And then I start building a team. And so I started building a team, but the problem is that as I was building a team, I still thought I was Michael Jordan. So I'd build the team and I'd be in there, all of a sudden, I'd have the person writing copy and they'd be going up with the ball, about to do the layup. And I'm like, "Ah, I could actually do it better." So I grab the ball from my own teammate and rip it out of their hands and I'd go dunk it like, "Ah." And I would get everyone cheering for me again. Or someone would be coming down ... I'm trying to get these analogies working. But basically what's happening is that I was the All Star and- Josh: That one worked. That analogy worked. Russell: That one did work? Okay, good. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I was trying to bring in other All Stars. But the problem is I'd bring these All Stars in and then as they were trying to perform, I'd be like, "I can do it better." And I would take the ball from them because I want to be the All Star. And I had this realization, like for me to actually build a team, I cannot continue to be the All Star. And this is hard- Josh: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: For achievers like us, especially for someone like me. Like I was the achiever, I had done all the roles because I had built the company by myself initially. It was me doing all the roles, so I learned all the roles, I got good at all the roles. And so as I started trying to like bring on these different All Stars, it was tough. It's kind of like if you watch the All Star game or like the dream team. Like all of a sudden you got like the best players on a team and usually they're not the best playing with each other because they're all the All Stars, they all want a ball hog and it gets really, really difficult. And so I had to make this realization, like if I'm going to be successful growing a team and getting click funnels from hundred million to a billion dollars, like I can't continue to be the All Star. I have to retire and I have to become the coach. That's a hard transition. Because now you're coming back and like you're successful, not now by your skillset, but you're successful by like cultivating other people's skillsets. And that's a different skillset to have, by the way. Like it's way harder. For me, it's always been easier for me to go and like to do the thing. Like I'm finding it now with I'm coaching my kids wrestling. And I'm watching my kids, I'm watching the team and like, man, I was such a good athlete. I'd go out there, I'd kill myself, I'd work so hard and I was an amazing athlete. But it's way harder for me to coach other athletes because I can't give them desire, I can't give them these different things. And so that was difficult. And so that's the first thing to realize is that if you're going to start growing a team, you have to be willing to like take your Jersey off and say, "I'm no longer the All Star, I am now the coach. And I've got new people." And that's been the hardest thing for me and I still struggle with that, I still like jump back in. I'm like, "Ah." But that's the key, if you want to get a good group people around you. Because otherwise if you're the one that's taking the ball from him, from the other people on the team, the All Stars are going to leave you. Like they're not going to stick around, they want to be the All Star too, they want the recognition, they want to be doing the thing. So that's the first big shift that you got to have. Any questions on that before I go to kind of- Josh: No, no. Super good. Yeah, you're good. Russell: Okay. So the second thing is you have to be good at hiring All Stars. I remember when we first started building ClickFunnels, Todd read an article or something and he was talking about ... in the article was like, there's A players, B players, C player, there's different levels. But what people don't understand, it's not like A players, like 100% and B players like 50%. Like the article said the difference between an A player and a B player is like 2200% difference. So it's like a B player, you can have like one A player going to give you the output of like 50 or 100 or how many B players. And so what most of us try to do, is try to come in and say, "Okay, I don't want to spend as much money getting the right person. So I'm going to find somebody who's cheaper. Maybe they're not going to be an A player, but they'll be a B player, but I can afford them." And that's like this mindset that most people have. I see it all the time, I see it in Facebook groups, in ClickFunnels Facebook group, like, how do I get a cheap funnel builder? Like, that's the problem, you're looking for a B player. Or you find an A player, you get 2200 times better thing. And so it's been interesting because we launched ClickFunnels the first time, like I had a couple A players, which is why it grew. We had a couple All Stars, we had some like Todd Dickerson. You guys know our team, like we had A players who were able to go and intergrow. But then from there, we had to hire whoever we could afford. Right now we're building ClickFunnels 2.0 and we're in a unique spot where it's like, we don't have to just hire who we can afford. Like let's hire the best. And so we're going out there trying to figure out who are the A players in each regard. And it's crazy because I look at the team that's building ClickFunnels 2.0, it's a small team. What they're accomplishing is amazing, but they're all A players. When we started like looking at rolling out Click Funnels 2.0 and our marketing team, we started trying to bring in A players and they're expensive. And so a lot of times the questions like, well, I don't have any money. How do I recruit the A players? Well, I recruited Todd and I was broke. A players aren't necessarily looking for money today. The A players are people who are looking for money in the future. They're the ones who are like, "I want to be part of a team. I want to build something cool, something I believe in. And I want to be able to get paid insane amounts of money over here. And I'm willing to give up that for this over here." The right people will be willing to do that. So as I come back, if I was to like be building my team over from scratch right now. There's number one, again, taking off the All Star, say I'm going to be the coach. And number two is like, if I'm going to be the coach and I'm out there building the team, like I'm going to try to build the dream team. And to do that, I've got to sell them on the vision of why this is cool and like where it's going to go, and what's the opportunity for them. Because just like you're trying to sell your customers on the opportunity of like funnels are the opportunity or whatever. It's like, you're selling your dreams team, like this is the opportunity. Like if you join the team, you're going to get paid nothing right now or very little right now. But this is how we're going to structure things so that it'll be worth it for you over here. And the right people will hear that because that's what they're looking for. Someday when I retire from this whole, whatever I'm doing. If I was ever getting a job again, it's not going to be based on money, I could care less about money. Someone's going to sell me someday on the vision. In fact, I just saw Sean Wayland just hired the dude who started Tapout- Josh: Yeah, I saw that. Russell: And like how powerful is that? The Tapout dude does not need Sean's money. He sold his company for insane amounts of money. But I'm sure Sean's like, "Hey dude, here's the opportunity. You help me do this thing and flip it like, this is what's possible for you." And now he's got literally like there's no better person that Sean could have hired to run that company- Josh: Yeah, I know. Russell: Than this dude. Josh: When I saw that one, I was like, "Oh my Gosh." Russell: It's brilliant. So for all of us, we got to start linking more strategically. Not like, who can I afford for this role? It's like, who is the person that's going to be getting a million bucks a year in five years from now in this role? And how do I sell them on the opportunity? How do I create an opportunity where they can grow and they can monetize? Where they can make this kind of money. And that's how you recruit the right people into your world, who are going to help you to actually have success. And so those are the things ... because you get a good A player, you don't have to be really good at managing, you don't have to be really good at micro- Josh: Yeah. Russell: All those kind things. Like you get the right people in place, they're going to do the things and it makes you look like the All Star, the coach of the year that you are. Because you built the right team. Building the team- Josh: Yeah. Russell: Is more valuable than all the other pieces, I believe. Josh: Yeah. Like getting the right people is more important. The systems, the process, like those are all important. But like if you have B players on the team, it's like you're going to get a mediocre result. Russell: Yeah. And then- Josh: Yeah. Russell: And B player, you're going to be one in charge if you know the process. We brought Todd and I didn't have to like sit down with Todd and like, "Okay, how are we going to manage the projects? How are we going to do this?" Like Todd came in, he's like, "All right, I got it." And he just ran and he was able to run and like, all right, he's done. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Like we just brought in this guy named Kevin Richards, who we brought him in into like be the CMO of ClickFunnels. And Kevin had worked for a whole bunch of really big companies doing this. And it's crazy because like he came in and we gave him the reins, he started running. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is way better than I was running." Like there's structures, organization. Because he's done it before, over and over and over again. He's going to come in and plug in and just do it. And I'm watching it right now, I'm like- Josh: Yeah. Russell: "Man, like he's an A player who I could hire." In fact, I have over the last decade, a whole bunch of B players to do this role and no one's been able to hit it. And it's been me being involved so much. Where now it's like literally the first two weeks I was like all nervous because I want to make sure that everything's perfect. And finally like gave him the reins and I stepped back and it's like, "Whoa, this is so much better than when I was running it." Josh: Yeah. Russell: And it's easier and less stressed on me and he's loving it and it's just powerful. So those are the key. Josh: Okay. Couple rapid fire questions here, so that we make time. Number one, have you ever run into challenges or how have you dealt with communication differences inside of a team? Because one of the things that I've noticed is like, I just thought everybody would communicate like I was if we're all part of a team. I'm like the most expressive person, like when I talk. Like I use emojis and exclamation points and like if I'm texting, if I'm going like my voice or whatever. And like someone on my team is like, "Okay." I'm like, "Ah, are you mad? Do you understand? Like what do you mean, okay?" Do you have systems in place? Or do you typically go and just try to like find people to do that? Or is that something you just learn? Because I'm sure like, Melanie, I mean she was with you for how long? Right before Shelia, I'm sure she had a very unique communication style and I'm sure your next assistant is probably not the same as her. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Right. So like how have you learned like how to deal with that? Russell: Yeah. A couple things. One is like personality profiling is huge. In fact, we're working on a whole project right now and that'll probably be a book and a membership side, bunch of stuff, all based on personality profiling. Because that's how you understand like what motivates people? How do they speak? How do they not speak? How do they understand? Because again, Melanie and Jenny are very different people. But I'm able to work with both of them because I understood their personality types, I understood like, what are the things that would light Melanie up? What are the things that'd get Jenny excited to work? And vice versa. Like, if you look at Melanie was a very high S, so very faithful. And so like she would like die for you to be able to get something done. Jenny on their hand has very low S, almost no S. And so for her, it's like, man, if she gets bored, she's gone. So I got to make sure that she's got 8,000 projects and she's juggling them all. The more things she's having, the more successful she's going to be. Similar to me. And so I give her tons of projects and she thrives that she's able to juggle all these things. Whereas if I treat her like I taught Melanie, she would've been here for a week and a half, like, I'm out, like this is horrible. So understanding those kind of things. Like DISC profile's big, Meyers Briggs is big. Those are my two favorites. I'm trying to learn to master all the other ones, but those ones help a ton when you're hiring and all also when you're managing people. Josh: Yeah. Russell: The other thing is, this is one that helped me. Actually, Julie Story actually was one that taught it to me initially. And I don't remember all the things, but there's these different hats. There's like a black hat and a green hat and a red hat and yellow hat and all these things like that. So I'm a very green hat person, so are you. Put on the green hat and it's like creative ideas and we're flowing. I'm like, we get so excited about sharing stuff. And there's people who have like a black hats, they're the ones who always like ... they look at what could go wrong. What about this? And what about this? Josh: They take away all the fun. Oh my God. Russell: Yeah. Josh: They ruin it. Russell: And then like the white hats. So there's all these different hats. The ones I really remember is like green and black because I'm green hat. And like, Jamie Smith's a good example of a black hat. I love Jamie, one of my favorite humans in the world. But when we would do meetings together, I literally wanted jump over the table and strangle him. Because I'm like, "I did, I did, I did." And he's like, "Well, you think about this? You think about this? Think about this?" And like you're sucking the life out of me. Josh: Yeah. Russell: My wife's a very black hat person, as well. I'm like, "We should take the kids and like fly around the world and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Like just brainstorming things that are probably never going to happen. She's like, "What about this, this, this?" And so we started learning like based on this ... this is something that Julie brought that was really powerful. It was like, "Hey, we're in now in a green hat phase. Well, Russell's going to green hat, we're talking about ideas. No one's allowed to black hat this at all. Let's just share ideas." So then everyone's just sharing ideas and like, we have a chance to be excited and creative and get these things out there. And after it's like all the creative steps out, it's like, "Okay, now let's put a black hat on, now it's black hat this." And now we can all look at it objectively you're like, "Okay, we're going to black hat this and go through the black hat things." And then we put on a different colored hat and go through those things. Josh: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: And we go through different hats, but they're separately, they're not all happening at the same time. Because if it happens at the same time, it destroys my creativity and excitement and energy. I want to like strangle the person. But like, man, I need those people. I need Jamie to look at this and be like, "Here's 40 ways why this isn't going to work." Like, oh crap, I didn't think about that, that or that. We stack the different hats as opposed to doing them all at the same time and making us all want to kill each other. And that has been- Josh: That's so helpful. Russell: Huge for us. Like for me, it's huge. I always tell people like when I start brainstorming, like, "Okay, green hat time, no negative, no what ifs. Let's go." And then we just do that. And you see like the black hat people are like twitching and they're like, don't worry, you’re going to get your shot, but not yet. Until everything's out and it's like, "Okay, black hat's on. What do you guys got?" And then they can go do their thing. Josh: You need some anxiety medication over there. Russell: Yeah. We can do a whole, like two day training on that, too. Because it's such a powerful thing. But conceptually, it's breaking those things in that way. Josh: All right, Russell. Well, in your other life, we'll just have an entire podcast where all we do is just do deep dives all day long. But in this life, we have to stick with constraints of where we're at. So anyway, thank you for sharing that. Super, super helpful. I appreciate it. Russell: No worries. Thank you, Josh. Appreciate you guys. Hopefully you enjoyed this episode. As you guys are building your teams, remember the principles we talked about. You've got to become the coach, you've got to attract A players, you got to put them in the right spots, figure out ways to make it profitable for them in the long term, figure out personality types, you can serve them the right way. Black hat, green hat, red hats. We should do an episode on just on all hat ... I have to go back to remember all the other colored hats. But anyway- Josh: All right, our next- Russell: There you go. Josh: Go around, I'll be like you have homework for this. Russell: Russell, prepare for this and we'll go. Josh: Prepare for this one. That'd be awesome. Russell: That'd be awesome. Thanks everyone for listening. Thank you, Josh. And we'll see you guys on the next episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000 How To Build A Great Team…The Right Way full 482 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The skill set for building an effective team is WAY different than the skills needed for marketing and sales. For one, you have to learn how to become a true LEADER. So the two key questions to ask yourself are 1. Who do you have to become to lead a... The skill set for building an effective team is WAY different than the skills needed for marketing and sales. For one, you have to learn how to become a true LEADER. So the two key questions to ask yourself are 1. Who do you have to become to lead a great team? And 2. What are the critical strategies you need to implement to get your team onboard to follow your vision? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everyone? This is Russell, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today's episode, we're going to be talking about building a team. How do you do it? What are the pitfalls? What are the pros, the cons? And some of the things that I learned along the way. Hopefully this'll help you as you're building out your team to be able to do whatever it is you're trying to do in your life. Whatever your mission, whatever your goal, whatever the business you're trying to build. I hope that this episode will help you as you're thinking through it, to help you to build the team that's going to get you to the finish line. So with that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song. We come back, you have a chance to listen in on a cool interview, talking about how to build your team. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast, I'm here today with Josh Forti and we've been having fun today. The last two episodes- Josh Forti: We have. Russell: We recorded went longer, but- Josh: It's been fun. Russell: I think they've been fun. So today will be a little bit shorter episode, but it's something that, again, Josh brings things that I don't ever really typically talk about. So it's been fun to talk about some of the stuff like I think about, but I've never really verbally shared. So do you want to set up what we were talking about today? Josh: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so very specifically here, I want to focus for you specifically. The question is, well, leadership and team building, what are some of the biggest shifts around building a team and becoming a leader? Because as someone who built a team myself that failed miserably, it wasn't that we hated each other, but it's just like, it was chaos. When you're trying to manage like six or seven different people and they're all like contracting everywhere. And now I'm like kind of going back and rebuilding. And I'm building it right and I have full-time people that we're bringing in and going. And it's like, man, the skillset of making money, the skillset of being a marketer is way so totally different- Russell: Yeah. Josh: Than building a team. And even being like the attractive character and building a following, like building a following is a completely different skillset than it is of growing a team and being a leader and things like that. And so I guess like two part is number one, who did you have to become? And like, secondly, what are like some of the hacks, tips, or I know you like secrets. So what are some of the secrets that you use to build a team and really like sell them on the vision and like really make sure that they were thriving in that role? Russell: Cool. So I want to just second what you said, building a team is way different than all the other things. And I've struggled over the years. I have an amazing team, as you guys know, if you've seen everything. And I wouldn't say most of it's because of my own doing, I'll talk about some of the stuff I've learned along the way. But it's a different skillset. And I think making money is an easier skill, I think creating a movement of people that are following you is different. I always tell people, like I'm such a good leader and communicator to like my tribe and I'm not as good to my internal team. It's interesting. And so a couple things that I'll share again, I don't have this perfect. And if you ask people on my team, like Russell's not perfect at this because I'm not. But I'll share some of the things I've learned because I'm always trying to figure this out and trying to get better at it. One of the biggest lessons I had and I did a podcast on this probably two or three years ago. Was this realization that I had to make a transition. Because I was always like the All Star. Like if you look at basketball, like I was the All Star, like I was really good. I could write copy, I could build a funnel, I could drive traffic, I could sell from stage, I could do all the different things. And so I was like, Michael Jordan out there and I'd be on stage, I'd be doing, I'd be dunking and slamming and three points. And like just amazing and people would tell me how great I was and I loved it. And then I start building a team. And so I started building a team, but the problem is that as I was building a team, I still thought I was Michael Jordan. So I'd build the team and I'd be in there, all of a sudden, I'd have the person writing copy and they'd be going up with the ball, about to do the layup. And I'm like, "Ah, I could actually do it better." So I grab the ball from my own teammate and rip it out of their hands and I'd go dunk it like, "Ah." And I would get everyone cheering for me again. Or someone would be coming down ... I'm trying to get these analogies working. But basically what's happening is that I was the All Star and- Josh: That one worked. That analogy worked. Russell: That one did work? Okay, good. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I was trying to bring in other All Stars. But the problem is I'd bring these All Stars in and then as they were trying to perform, I'd be like, "I can do it better." And I would take the ball from them because I want to be the All Star. And I had this realization, like for me to actually build a team, I cannot continue to be the All Star. And this is hard- Josh: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: For achievers like us, especially for someone like me. Like I was the achiever, I had done all the roles because I had built the company by myself initially. It was me doing all the roles, so I learned all the roles, I got good at all the roles. And so as I started trying to like bring on these different All Stars, it was tough. It's kind of like if you watch the All Star game or like the dream team. Like all of a sudden you got like the best players on a team and usually they're not the best playing with each other because they're all the All Stars, they all want a ball hog and it gets really, really difficult. And so I had to make this realization, like if I'm going to be successful growing a team and getting click funnels from hundred million to a billion dollars, like I can't continue to be the All Star. I have to retire and I have to become the coach. That's a hard transition. Because now you're coming back and like you're successful, not now by your skillset, but you're successful by like cultivating other people's skillsets. And that's a different skillset to have, by the way. Like it's way harder. For me, it's always been easier for me to go and like to do the thing. Like I'm finding it now with I'm coaching my kids wrestling. And I'm watching my kids, I'm watching the team and like, man, I was such a good athlete. I'd go out there, I'd kill myself, I'd work so hard and I was an amazing athlete. But it's way harder for me to coach other athletes because I can't give them desire, I can't give them these different things. And so that was difficult. And so that's the first thing to realize is that if you're going to start growing a team, you have to be willing to like take your Jersey off and say, "I'm no longer the All Star, I am now the coach. And I've got new people." And that's been the hardest thing for me and I still struggle with that, I still like jump back in. I'm like, "Ah." But that's the key, if you want to get a good group people around you. Because otherwise if you're the one that's taking the ball from him, from the other people on the team, the All Stars are going to leave you. Like they're not going to stick around, they want to be the All Star too, they want the recognition, they want to be doing the thing. So that's the first big shift that you got to have. Any questions on that before I go to kind of- Josh: No, no. Super good. Yeah, you're good. Russell: Okay. So the second thing is you have to be good at hiring All Stars. I remember when we first started building ClickFunnels, Todd read an article or something and he was talking about ... in the article was like, there's A players, B players, C player, there's different levels. But what people don't understand, it's not like A players, like 100% and B players like 50%. Like the article said the difference between an A player and a B player is like 2200% difference. So it's like a B player, you can have like one A player going to give you the output of like 50 or 100 or how many B players. And so what most of us try to do, is try to come in and say, "Okay, I don't want to spend as much money getting the right person. So I'm going to find somebody who's cheaper. Maybe they're not going to be an A player, but they'll be a B player, but I can afford them." And that's like this mindset that most people have. I see it all the time, I see it in Facebook groups, in ClickFunnels Facebook group, like, how do I get a cheap funnel builder? Like, that's the problem, you're looking for a B player. Or you find an A player, you get 2200 times better thing. And so it's been interesting because we launched ClickFunnels the first time, like I had a couple A players, which is why it grew. We had a couple All Stars, we had some like Todd Dickerson. You guys know our team, like we had A players who were able to go and intergrow. But then from there, we had to hire whoever we could afford. Right now we're building ClickFunnels 2.0 and we're in a unique spot where it's like, we don't have to just hire who we can afford. Like let's hire the best. And so we're going out there trying to figure out who are the A players in each regard. And it's crazy because I look at the team that's building ClickFunnels 2.0, it's a small team. What they're accomplishing is amazing, but they're all A players. When we started like looking at rolling out Click Funnels 2.0 and our marketing team, we started trying to bring in A players and they're expensive. And so a lot of times the questions like, well, I don't have any money. How do I recruit the A players? Well, I recruited Todd and I was broke. A players aren't necessarily looking for money today. The A players are people who are looking for money in the future. They're the ones who are like, "I want to be part of a team. I want to build something cool, something I believe in. And I want to be able to get paid insane amounts of money over here. And I'm willing to give up that for this over here." The right people will be willing to do that. So as I come back, if I was to like be building my team over from scratch right now. There's number one, again, taking off the All Star, say I'm going to be the coach. And number two is like, if I'm going to be the coach and I'm out there building the team, like I'm going to try to build the dream team. And to do that, I've got to sell them on the vision of why this is cool and like where it's going to go, and what's the opportunity for them. Because just like you're trying to sell your customers on the opportunity of like funnels are the opportunity or whatever. It's like, you're selling your dreams team, like this is the opportunity. Like if you join the team, you're going to get paid nothing right now or very little right now. But this is how we're going to structure things so that it'll be worth it for you over here. And the right people will hear that because that's what they're looking for. Someday when I retire from this whole, whatever I'm doing. If I was ever getting a job again, it's not going to be based on money, I could care less about money. Someone's going to sell me someday on the vision. In fact, I just saw Sean Wayland just hired the dude who started Tapout- Josh: Yeah, I saw that. Russell: And like how powerful is that? The Tapout dude does not need Sean's money. He sold his company for insane amounts of money. But I'm sure Sean's like, "Hey dude, here's the opportunity. You help me do this thing and flip it like, this is what's possible for you." And now he's got literally like there's no better person that Sean could have hired to run that company- Josh: Yeah, I know. Russell: Than this dude. Josh: When I saw that one, I was like, "Oh my Gosh." Russell: It's brilliant. So for all of us, we got to start linking more strategically. Not like, who can I afford for this role? It's like, who is the person that's going to be getting a million bucks a year in five years from now in this role? And how do I sell them on the opportunity? How do I create an opportunity where they can grow and they can monetize? Where they can make this kind of money. And that's how you recruit the right people into your world, who are going to help you to actually have success. And so those are the things ... because you get a good A player, you don't have to be really good at managing, you don't have to be really good at micro- Josh: Yeah. Russell: All those kind things. Like you get the right people in place, they're going to do the things and it makes you look like the All Star, the coach of the year that you are. Because you built the right team. Building the team- Josh: Yeah. Russell: Is more valuable than all the other pieces, I believe. Josh: Yeah. Like getting the right people is more important. The systems, the process, like those are all important. But like if you have B players on the team, it's like you're going to get a mediocre result. Russell: Yeah. And then- Josh: Yeah. Russell: And B player, you're going to be one in charge if you know the process. We brought Todd and I didn't have to like sit down with Todd and like, "Okay, how are we going to manage the projects? How are we going to do this?" Like Todd came in, he's like, "All right, I got it." And he just ran and he was able to run and like, all right, he's done. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Like we just brought in this guy named Kevin Richards, who we brought him in into like be the CMO of ClickFunnels. And Kevin had worked for a whole bunch of really big companies doing this. And it's crazy because like he came in and we gave him the reins, he started running. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is way better than I was running." Like there's structures, organization. Because he's done it before, over and over and over again. He's going to come in and plug in and just do it. And I'm watching it right now, I'm like- Josh: Yeah. Russell: "Man, like he's an A player who I could hire." In fact, I have over the last decade, a whole bunch of B players to do this role and no one's been able to hit it. And it's been me being involved so much. Where now it's like literally the first two weeks I was like all nervous because I want to make sure that everything's perfect. And finally like gave him the reins and I stepped back and it's like, "Whoa, this is so much better than when I was running it." Josh: Yeah. Russell: And it's easier and less stressed on me and he's loving it and it's just powerful. So those are the key. Josh: Okay. Couple rapid fire questions here, so that we make time. Number one, have you ever run into challenges or how have you dealt with communication differences inside of a team? Because one of the things that I've noticed is like, I just thought everybody would communicate like I was if we're all part of a team. I'm like the most expressive person, like when I talk. Like I use emojis and exclamation points and like if I'm texting, if I'm going like my voice or whatever. And like someone on my team is like, "Okay." I'm like, "Ah, are you mad? Do you understand? Like what do you mean, okay?" Do you have systems in place? Or do you typically go and just try to like find people to do that? Or is that something you just learn? Because I'm sure like, Melanie, I mean she was with you for how long? Right before Shelia, I'm sure she had a very unique communication style and I'm sure your next assistant is probably not the same as her. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Right. So like how have you learned like how to deal with that? Russell: Yeah. A couple things. One is like personality profiling is huge. In fact, we're working on a whole project right now and that'll probably be a book and a membership side, bunch of stuff, all based on personality profiling. Because that's how you understand like what motivates people? How do they speak? How do they not speak? How do they understand? Because again, Melanie and Jenny are very different people. But I'm able to work with both of them because I understood their personality types, I understood like, what are the things that would light Melanie up? What are the things that'd get Jenny excited to work? And vice versa. Like, if you look at Melanie was a very high S, so very faithful. And so like she would like die for you to be able to get something done. Jenny on their hand has very low S, almost no S. And so for her, it's like, man, if she gets bored, she's gone. So I got to make sure that she's got 8,000 projects and she's juggling them all. The more things she's having, the more successful she's going to be. Similar to me. And so I give her tons of projects and she thrives that she's able to juggle all these things. Whereas if I treat her like I taught Melanie, she would've been here for a week and a half, like, I'm out, like this is horrible. So understanding those kind of things. Like DISC profile's big, Meyers Briggs is big. Those are my two favorites. I'm trying to learn to master all the other ones, but those ones help a ton when you're hiring and all also when you're managing people. Josh: Yeah. Russell: The other thing is, this is one that helped me. Actually, Julie Story actually was one that taught it to me initially. And I don't remember all the things, but there's these different hats. There's like a black hat and a green hat and a red hat and yellow hat and all these things like that. So I'm a very green hat person, so are you. Put on the green hat and it's like creative ideas and we're flowing. I'm like, we get so excited about sharing stuff. And there's people who have like a black hats, they're the ones who always like ... they look at what could go wrong. What about this? And what about this? Josh: They take away all the fun. Oh my God. Russell: Yeah. Josh: They ruin it. Russell: And then like the white hats. So there's all these different hats. The ones I really remember is like green and black because I'm green hat. And like, Jamie Smith's a good example of a black hat. I love Jamie, one of my favorite humans in the world. But when we would do meetings together, I literally wanted jump over the table and strangle him. Because I'm like, "I did, I did, I did." And he's like, "Well, you think about this? You think about this? Think about this?" And like you're sucking the life out of me. Josh: Yeah. Russell: My wife's a very black hat person, as well. I'm like, "We should take the kids and like fly around the world and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Like just brainstorming things that are probably never going to happen. She's like, "What about this, this, this?" And so we started learning like based on this ... this is something that Julie brought that was really powerful. It was like, "Hey, we're in now in a green hat phase. Well, Russell's going to green hat, we're talking about ideas. No one's allowed to black hat this at all. Let's just share ideas." So then everyone's just sharing ideas and like, we have a chance to be excited and creative and get these things out there. And after it's like all the creative steps out, it's like, "Okay, now let's put a black hat on, now it's black hat this." And now we can all look at it objectively you're like, "Okay, we're going to black hat this and go through the black hat things." And then we put on a different colored hat and go through those things. Josh: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: And we go through different hats, but they're separately, they're not all happening at the same time. Because if it happens at the same time, it destroys my creativity and excitement and energy. I want to like strangle the person. But like, man, I need those people. I need Jamie to look at this and be like, "Here's 40 ways why this isn't going to work." Like, oh crap, I didn't think about that, that or that. We stack the different hats as opposed to doing them all at the same time and making us all want to kill each other. And that has been- Josh: That's so helpful. Russell: Huge for us. Like for me, it's huge. I always tell people like when I start brainstorming, like, "Okay, green hat time, no negative, no what ifs. Let's go." And then we just do that. And you see like the black hat people are like twitching and they're like, don't worry, you’re going to get your shot, but not yet. Until everything's out and it's like, "Okay, black hat's on. What do you guys got?" And then they can go do their thing. Josh: You need some anxiety medication over there. Russell: Yeah. We can do a whole, like two day training on that, too. Because it's such a powerful thing. But conceptually, it's breaking those things in that way. Josh: All right, Russell. Well, in your other life, we'll just have an entire podcast where all we do is just do deep dives all day long. But in this life, we have to stick with constraints of where we're at. So anyway, thank you for sharing that. Super, super helpful. I appreciate it. Russell: No worries. Thank you, Josh. Appreciate you guys. Hopefully you enjoyed this episode. As you guys are building your teams, remember the principles we talked about. You've got to become the coach, you've got to attract A players, you got to put them in the right spots, figure out ways to make it profitable for them in the long term, figure out personality types, you can serve them the right way. Black hat, green hat, red hats. We should do an episode on just on all hat ... I have to go back to remember all the other colored hats. But anyway- Josh: All right, our next- Russell: There you go. Josh: Go around, I'll be like you have homework for this. Russell: Russell, prepare for this and we'll go. Josh: Prepare for this one. That'd be awesome. Russell: That'd be awesome. Thanks everyone for listening. Thank you, Josh. And we'll see you guys on the next episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The skill set for building an effective team is WAY different than the skills needed for marketing and sales. For one, you have to learn how to become a true LEADER. So the two key questions to ask yourself are 1. Who do you have to become to lead a great team? And 2. What are the critical strategies you need to implement to get your team onboard to follow your vision?

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Russell Brunson:

What's up, everyone? This is Russell, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today's episode, we're going to be talking about building a team. How do you do it? What are the pitfalls? What are the pros, the cons? And some of the things that I learned along the way. Hopefully this'll help you as you're building out your team to be able to do whatever it is you're trying to do in your life. Whatever your mission, whatever your goal, whatever the business you're trying to build. I hope that this episode will help you as you're thinking through it, to help you to build the team that's going to get you to the finish line. So with that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song. We come back, you have a chance to listen in on a cool interview, talking about how to build your team.

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast, I'm here today with Josh Forti and we've been having fun today. The last two episodes-

Josh Forti:

We have.

Russell:

We recorded went longer, but-

Josh:

It's been fun.

Russell:

I think they've been fun. So today will be a little bit shorter episode, but it's something that, again, Josh brings things that I don't ever really typically talk about. So it's been fun to talk about some of the stuff like I think about, but I've never really verbally shared. So do you want to set up what we were talking about today?

Josh:

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so very specifically here, I want to focus for you specifically. The question is, well, leadership and team building, what are some of the biggest shifts around building a team and becoming a leader? Because as someone who built a team myself that failed miserably, it wasn't that we hated each other, but it's just like, it was chaos. When you're trying to manage like six or seven different people and they're all like contracting everywhere. And now I'm like kind of going back and rebuilding. And I'm building it right and I have full-time people that we're bringing in and going. And it's like, man, the skillset of making money, the skillset of being a marketer is way so totally different-

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Than building a team. And even being like the attractive character and building a following, like building a following is a completely different skillset than it is of growing a team and being a leader and things like that. And so I guess like two part is number one, who did you have to become? And like, secondly, what are like some of the hacks, tips, or I know you like secrets. So what are some of the secrets that you use to build a team and really like sell them on the vision and like really make sure that they were thriving in that role?

Russell:

Cool. So I want to just second what you said, building a team is way different than all the other things. And I've struggled over the years. I have an amazing team, as you guys know, if you've seen everything. And I wouldn't say most of it's because of my own doing, I'll talk about some of the stuff I've learned along the way. But it's a different skillset. And I think making money is an easier skill, I think creating a movement of people that are following you is different. I always tell people, like I'm such a good leader and communicator to like my tribe and I'm not as good to my internal team. It's interesting.

And so a couple things that I'll share again, I don't have this perfect. And if you ask people on my team, like Russell's not perfect at this because I'm not. But I'll share some of the things I've learned because I'm always trying to figure this out and trying to get better at it. One of the biggest lessons I had and I did a podcast on this probably two or three years ago. Was this realization that I had to make a transition. Because I was always like the All Star. Like if you look at basketball, like I was the All Star, like I was really good. I could write copy, I could build a funnel, I could drive traffic, I could sell from stage, I could do all the different things. And so I was like, Michael Jordan out there and I'd be on stage, I'd be doing, I'd be dunking and slamming and three points. And like just amazing and people would tell me how great I was and I loved it.

And then I start building a team. And so I started building a team, but the problem is that as I was building a team, I still thought I was Michael Jordan. So I'd build the team and I'd be in there, all of a sudden, I'd have the person writing copy and they'd be going up with the ball, about to do the layup. And I'm like, "Ah, I could actually do it better." So I grab the ball from my own teammate and rip it out of their hands and I'd go dunk it like, "Ah." And I would get everyone cheering for me again. Or someone would be coming down ... I'm trying to get these analogies working. But basically what's happening is that I was the All Star and-

Josh:

That one worked. That analogy worked.

Russell:

That one did work? Okay, good.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And I was trying to bring in other All Stars. But the problem is I'd bring these All Stars in and then as they were trying to perform, I'd be like, "I can do it better." And I would take the ball from them because I want to be the All Star. And I had this realization, like for me to actually build a team, I cannot continue to be the All Star. And this is hard-

Josh:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Russell:

For achievers like us, especially for someone like me. Like I was the achiever, I had done all the roles because I had built the company by myself initially. It was me doing all the roles, so I learned all the roles, I got good at all the roles. And so as I started trying to like bring on these different All Stars, it was tough. It's kind of like if you watch the All Star game or like the dream team. Like all of a sudden you got like the best players on a team and usually they're not the best playing with each other because they're all the All Stars, they all want a ball hog and it gets really, really difficult.

And so I had to make this realization, like if I'm going to be successful growing a team and getting click funnels from hundred million to a billion dollars, like I can't continue to be the All Star. I have to retire and I have to become the coach. That's a hard transition. Because now you're coming back and like you're successful, not now by your skillset, but you're successful by like cultivating other people's skillsets. And that's a different skillset to have, by the way. Like it's way harder.

For me, it's always been easier for me to go and like to do the thing. Like I'm finding it now with I'm coaching my kids wrestling. And I'm watching my kids, I'm watching the team and like, man, I was such a good athlete. I'd go out there, I'd kill myself, I'd work so hard and I was an amazing athlete. But it's way harder for me to coach other athletes because I can't give them desire, I can't give them these different things. And so that was difficult. And so that's the first thing to realize is that if you're going to start growing a team, you have to be willing to like take your Jersey off and say, "I'm no longer the All Star, I am now the coach. And I've got new people." And that's been the hardest thing for me and I still struggle with that, I still like jump back in. I'm like, "Ah." But that's the key, if you want to get a good group people around you.

Because otherwise if you're the one that's taking the ball from him, from the other people on the team, the All Stars are going to leave you. Like they're not going to stick around, they want to be the All Star too, they want the recognition, they want to be doing the thing. So that's the first big shift that you got to have. Any questions on that before I go to kind of-

Josh:

No, no. Super good. Yeah, you're good.

Russell:

Okay. So the second thing is you have to be good at hiring All Stars. I remember when we first started building ClickFunnels, Todd read an article or something and he was talking about ... in the article was like, there's A players, B players, C player, there's different levels. But what people don't understand, it's not like A players, like 100% and B players like 50%. Like the article said the difference between an A player and a B player is like 2200% difference. So it's like a B player, you can have like one A player going to give you the output of like 50 or 100 or how many B players.

And so what most of us try to do, is try to come in and say, "Okay, I don't want to spend as much money getting the right person. So I'm going to find somebody who's cheaper. Maybe they're not going to be an A player, but they'll be a B player, but I can afford them." And that's like this mindset that most people have. I see it all the time, I see it in Facebook groups, in ClickFunnels Facebook group, like, how do I get a cheap funnel builder? Like, that's the problem, you're looking for a B player. Or you find an A player, you get 2200 times better thing.

And so it's been interesting because we launched ClickFunnels the first time, like I had a couple A players, which is why it grew. We had a couple All Stars, we had some like Todd Dickerson. You guys know our team, like we had A players who were able to go and intergrow. But then from there, we had to hire whoever we could afford. Right now we're building ClickFunnels 2.0 and we're in a unique spot where it's like, we don't have to just hire who we can afford. Like let's hire the best. And so we're going out there trying to figure out who are the A players in each regard.

And it's crazy because I look at the team that's building ClickFunnels 2.0, it's a small team. What they're accomplishing is amazing, but they're all A players. When we started like looking at rolling out Click Funnels 2.0 and our marketing team, we started trying to bring in A players and they're expensive. And so a lot of times the questions like, well, I don't have any money. How do I recruit the A players? Well, I recruited Todd and I was broke. A players aren't necessarily looking for money today. The A players are people who are looking for money in the future. They're the ones who are like, "I want to be part of a team. I want to build something cool, something I believe in. And I want to be able to get paid insane amounts of money over here. And I'm willing to give up that for this over here." The right people will be willing to do that.

So as I come back, if I was to like be building my team over from scratch right now. There's number one, again, taking off the All Star, say I'm going to be the coach. And number two is like, if I'm going to be the coach and I'm out there building the team, like I'm going to try to build the dream team. And to do that, I've got to sell them on the vision of why this is cool and like where it's going to go, and what's the opportunity for them. Because just like you're trying to sell your customers on the opportunity of like funnels are the opportunity or whatever. It's like, you're selling your dreams team, like this is the opportunity. Like if you join the team, you're going to get paid nothing right now or very little right now. But this is how we're going to structure things so that it'll be worth it for you over here.

And the right people will hear that because that's what they're looking for. Someday when I retire from this whole, whatever I'm doing. If I was ever getting a job again, it's not going to be based on money, I could care less about money. Someone's going to sell me someday on the vision. In fact, I just saw Sean Wayland just hired the dude who started Tapout-

Josh:

Yeah, I saw that.

Russell:

And like how powerful is that? The Tapout dude does not need Sean's money. He sold his company for insane amounts of money. But I'm sure Sean's like, "Hey dude, here's the opportunity. You help me do this thing and flip it like, this is what's possible for you." And now he's got literally like there's no better person that Sean could have hired to run that company-

Josh:

Yeah, I know.

Russell:

Than this dude.

Josh:

When I saw that one, I was like, "Oh my Gosh."

Russell:

It's brilliant. So for all of us, we got to start linking more strategically. Not like, who can I afford for this role? It's like, who is the person that's going to be getting a million bucks a year in five years from now in this role? And how do I sell them on the opportunity? How do I create an opportunity where they can grow and they can monetize? Where they can make this kind of money. And that's how you recruit the right people into your world, who are going to help you to actually have success.

And so those are the things ... because you get a good A player, you don't have to be really good at managing, you don't have to be really good at micro-

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

All those kind things. Like you get the right people in place, they're going to do the things and it makes you look like the All Star, the coach of the year that you are. Because you built the right team. Building the team-

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

Is more valuable than all the other pieces, I believe.

Josh:

Yeah. Like getting the right people is more important. The systems, the process, like those are all important. But like if you have B players on the team, it's like you're going to get a mediocre result.

Russell:

Yeah. And then-

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And B player, you're going to be one in charge if you know the process. We brought Todd and I didn't have to like sit down with Todd and like, "Okay, how are we going to manage the projects? How are we going to do this?" Like Todd came in, he's like, "All right, I got it." And he just ran and he was able to run and like, all right, he's done.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

Like we just brought in this guy named Kevin Richards, who we brought him in into like be the CMO of ClickFunnels. And Kevin had worked for a whole bunch of really big companies doing this. And it's crazy because like he came in and we gave him the reins, he started running. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is way better than I was running." Like there's structures, organization. Because he's done it before, over and over and over again. He's going to come in and plug in and just do it. And I'm watching it right now, I'm like-

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

"Man, like he's an A player who I could hire." In fact, I have over the last decade, a whole bunch of B players to do this role and no one's been able to hit it. And it's been me being involved so much. Where now it's like literally the first two weeks I was like all nervous because I want to make sure that everything's perfect. And finally like gave him the reins and I stepped back and it's like, "Whoa, this is so much better than when I was running it."

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And it's easier and less stressed on me and he's loving it and it's just powerful. So those are the key.

Josh:

Okay. Couple rapid fire questions here, so that we make time. Number one, have you ever run into challenges or how have you dealt with communication differences inside of a team? Because one of the things that I've noticed is like, I just thought everybody would communicate like I was if we're all part of a team. I'm like the most expressive person, like when I talk. Like I use emojis and exclamation points and like if I'm texting, if I'm going like my voice or whatever. And like someone on my team is like, "Okay." I'm like, "Ah, are you mad? Do you understand? Like what do you mean, okay?"

Do you have systems in place? Or do you typically go and just try to like find people to do that? Or is that something you just learn? Because I'm sure like, Melanie, I mean she was with you for how long? Right before Shelia, I'm sure she had a very unique communication style and I'm sure your next assistant is probably not the same as her.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Right. So like how have you learned like how to deal with that?

Russell:

Yeah. A couple things. One is like personality profiling is huge. In fact, we're working on a whole project right now and that'll probably be a book and a membership side, bunch of stuff, all based on personality profiling. Because that's how you understand like what motivates people? How do they speak? How do they not speak? How do they understand? Because again, Melanie and Jenny are very different people. But I'm able to work with both of them because I understood their personality types, I understood like, what are the things that would light Melanie up? What are the things that'd get Jenny excited to work? And vice versa.

Like, if you look at Melanie was a very high S, so very faithful. And so like she would like die for you to be able to get something done. Jenny on their hand has very low S, almost no S. And so for her, it's like, man, if she gets bored, she's gone. So I got to make sure that she's got 8,000 projects and she's juggling them all. The more things she's having, the more successful she's going to be. Similar to me. And so I give her tons of projects and she thrives that she's able to juggle all these things. Whereas if I treat her like I taught Melanie, she would've been here for a week and a half, like, I'm out, like this is horrible. So understanding those kind of things.

Like DISC profile's big, Meyers Briggs is big. Those are my two favorites. I'm trying to learn to master all the other ones, but those ones help a ton when you're hiring and all also when you're managing people.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

The other thing is, this is one that helped me. Actually, Julie Story actually was one that taught it to me initially. And I don't remember all the things, but there's these different hats. There's like a black hat and a green hat and a red hat and yellow hat and all these things like that. So I'm a very green hat person, so are you. Put on the green hat and it's like creative ideas and we're flowing. I'm like, we get so excited about sharing stuff. And there's people who have like a black hats, they're the ones who always like ... they look at what could go wrong. What about this? And what about this?

Josh:

They take away all the fun. Oh my God.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

They ruin it.

Russell:

And then like the white hats. So there's all these different hats. The ones I really remember is like green and black because I'm green hat. And like, Jamie Smith's a good example of a black hat. I love Jamie, one of my favorite humans in the world. But when we would do meetings together, I literally wanted jump over the table and strangle him. Because I'm like, "I did, I did, I did." And he's like, "Well, you think about this? You think about this? Think about this?" And like you're sucking the life out of me.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

My wife's a very black hat person, as well. I'm like, "We should take the kids and like fly around the world and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Like just brainstorming things that are probably never going to happen. She's like, "What about this, this, this?"

And so we started learning like based on this ... this is something that Julie brought that was really powerful. It was like, "Hey, we're in now in a green hat phase. Well, Russell's going to green hat, we're talking about ideas. No one's allowed to black hat this at all. Let's just share ideas." So then everyone's just sharing ideas and like, we have a chance to be excited and creative and get these things out there. And after it's like all the creative steps out, it's like, "Okay, now let's put a black hat on, now it's black hat this." And now we can all look at it objectively you're like, "Okay, we're going to black hat this and go through the black hat things." And then we put on a different colored hat and go through those things.

Josh:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Russell:

And we go through different hats, but they're separately, they're not all happening at the same time. Because if it happens at the same time, it destroys my creativity and excitement and energy. I want to like strangle the person. But like, man, I need those people. I need Jamie to look at this and be like, "Here's 40 ways why this isn't going to work." Like, oh crap, I didn't think about that, that or that. We stack the different hats as opposed to doing them all at the same time and making us all want to kill each other. And that has been-

Josh:

That's so helpful.

Russell:

Huge for us. Like for me, it's huge. I always tell people like when I start brainstorming, like, "Okay, green hat time, no negative, no what ifs. Let's go." And then we just do that. And you see like the black hat people are like twitching and they're like, don't worry, you’re going to get your shot, but not yet. Until everything's out and it's like, "Okay, black hat's on. What do you guys got?" And then they can go do their thing.

Josh:

You need some anxiety medication over there.

Russell:

Yeah. We can do a whole, like two day training on that, too. Because it's such a powerful thing. But conceptually, it's breaking those things in that way.

Josh:

All right, Russell. Well, in your other life, we'll just have an entire podcast where all we do is just do deep dives all day long. But in this life, we have to stick with constraints of where we're at. So anyway, thank you for sharing that. Super, super helpful. I appreciate it.

Russell:

No worries. Thank you, Josh. Appreciate you guys. Hopefully you enjoyed this episode. As you guys are building your teams, remember the principles we talked about. You've got to become the coach, you've got to attract A players, you got to put them in the right spots, figure out ways to make it profitable for them in the long term, figure out personality types, you can serve them the right way. Black hat, green hat, red hats. We should do an episode on just on all hat ... I have to go back to remember all the other colored hats. But anyway-

Josh:

All right, our next-

Russell:

There you go.

Josh:

Go around, I'll be like you have homework for this.

Russell:

Russell, prepare for this and we'll go.

Josh:

Prepare for this one. That'd be awesome.

Russell:

That'd be awesome. Thanks everyone for listening. Thank you, Josh. And we'll see you guys on the next episode.

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]]> 1065 no Money Mindset Secrets… https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/money-mindset-secrets Did you know this may be holding you back from success in your business? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. One of the questions I get asked a lot about, and I don't spend a lot of time talking about it, is actually money and mindset around money, and how that works, and things that can help you to make more money, things that hold you back from making money. They have nothing to do with your skill set, it just has everything to do with the conversations, the beliefs, the things inside of your mind. This interview with Josh Forti, it was really fun and hopefully you enjoy it. Hopefully it'll help you if you do have money blocks, to help you get unstuck. If you don't think you have money blocks, you probably do. And this hopefully, interview, will make you very aware of those things, and help you to find those things and knock them out in your life. That said, we'll keep the theme song, and when we come back, listen in on this interview with me and Josh Forti. What's up everybody? Welcome back The Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm here today again with Josh Forti, and we're having so much fun today. We just recorded one episode and now we're going deep into episode number two, which we're going to be talking about mindset as it relates to things that are very specific to you guys as entrepreneurs. I'll Josh talk more about this as he's going to be queuing up the question, but hope you guys enjoy this episode as well. Josh Forti: All right, man. First off, we got to talk about your shirt. I feel like there's got to be a story behind this. Guys, for those of you that are listening on audio, let me just explain real quick. It is a skull and crossbones, but it's not just a skull and crossbones. It's got bunny ears on the skull. It's got little waves off to the side. What does it say on the sleeve? Russell: It says, "Psycho bunny." Josh: Psycho bunny. Russell: This is actually a really cool brand called Psycho Bunny, and I bought a couple of their things. I'm like, "This is a cool brand." And then I was shopping with Bart Miller in Vegas, and they have a Psycho Bunny shop. I went in there- Josh: Oh dang! Russell: And they had shirts and jackets and suit jackets that have the Psycho Bunny inside. It's just a fun, cool brand, and I really like it. Psycho Bunny. Josh: Okay. There's no grand, huge story behind how you got it. You just liked it. Russell: I should buy the company because it'd be really cool. Anyway, nope. Nothing. Josh: Guys, when you're a funnel hacker and when you decide to take over the world and create empires, you can randomly decide on a podcast that you're just going to ... "I should buy the company." That's not a normal thing that most people get to say, but it's super dope. Russell: This could be a fun episode in the future because as we acquired two big companies last year and I'm learning about this and having more fun with it, there are some cool ... For most of us, we look at a company, like, "There's no way I could buy that company," but then like Tai Lopez who just bought RadioShack and he bought Pier 1 Imports and all these companies… Josh: Dress Barn. Yeah. Russell: Now, I bought a couple companies and I'm like, oh, my gosh, there's actually a really cool strategy where it doesn't technically cost you any money if you do it correctly. We bought Dan Kennedy's company for a steal. We've launched the first thing. Now we made our money back. And now moving forward, everything I do with Dan Kennedy's company is pure, unadulterated profit to the bottom line. And that's exciting because ... All of a sudden it's like, you can actually buy companies when you understand the core principles of what we do. Anyway, that's a topic for another day, but it's kind of a fun one. Josh: So much fun stuff. Topic for another day. We'll do many episodes. Now is not the time. We're going to dive into what I think goes really well with our last episode. Last episode we talked about goal setting and setting things up, and that last bit of it was around identity and beliefs and values and rules and things like that. I want to talk about mindset here, and specifically the mindset ... There's a couple core key areas, because what's interesting is a lot of times we think mindset is we have to train our minds to think a certain way, or we have to overcome false beliefs about bad things. Like, "I'll never be successful" or "I'll never be this." But it goes both ways, because often times we can have fear of success. We can have fear that, oh, my gosh, what happens if I actually achieve that goal? There's so many different things around that, that we could dive into, but I want to kick off with this one specifically around mindset around money. I do want to talk about not just money, failure, doing the impossible, things like that, but I want to start with money because I feel like money is one of these things that we all have some form of weird relationship with it. Very few people grew up in a home where their parents and everybody around them had a healthy relationship with money, because most people ... I would say 90 plus percent of the people that I've met do not have a healthy relationship with money. They don't understand it. They don't understand what it represents, how it works, any of the things with it. For you, I want you to take us back because one of things, and I've kind of told you this at the beginning, a lot of people in the ClickFunnels world, like Russell. I was talking to Brad Gibb the other day. Shout out to Brad. He's awesome. He's like, "Russell has come and he's taken these handcuffs off of us, to where now we just can print money." It's ridiculous. It's kind of a cheat code. When we talk about it to all of our friends, we go around and we're like, "Yeah, we just kind of make money on the Internet." They're like, "How do you do that?" We're like, "We don't know. We just do what Russell says and it just works." Russell: It’s a magic trick! Josh: It just shows up. It's amazing. We've kind of unshackled the making of money, if we follow what it is, but keeping money. But our thoughts around money, our beliefs around money, how we perceive and value money, how we think money is going to change us. All of these different other things around money, those things are now new problems that a lot of us are running into, or have not yet applied the things that you've told us to do because of those beliefs. I think both of those are true. I've seen so many people ... I made not a ton, ton of money, but certainly 10 times more money than I'd ever made in my life when I first got started, and blew it all because of my poor, very unhealthy, almost toxic relationship with money. Take us back, what are the money shifts or the beliefs around money, specifically in mindset, that you had to go through. I'm just going to kind of leave that open ended and see where you take it. Russell: The first thing I think that would be useful for everyone is for everyone to actually, honestly sit down and look at their relationship with money and understand it ... It's funny because if you would ask Russell 15 years ago Russell if this was actually a real thing, I'd be like, "No, this is stupid. Just make money. It's easy." But I had a friend who I worked with, man, probably 12, 13 years ago on a project and he was someone who is super charismatic, super dynamic, super talented person. When he was younger, he used his talents and his gifts and he made a whole bunch of money really, really fast. Crazy, crazy money. Money that doesn't make any sense. When he got that money, he started doing stupid things with it. He got into drugs and alcohol and all the problems that are associated with when you make too much money too fast as a kid, and almost destroyed his life. He almost died. He almost lost his family and his marriage. All these things happened. He lost all the money, which was probably a blessing. And then he refixed his life. And then he got back to the spot where he's like, "I want to make money again." I watched him for probably 10 years of his life, where he would do all the right things, he would get close to making a bunch of money and then he would literally subconsciously destroy everything he had built, and it kept happening. At first I was so confused by it. I'm like, "You were so close. How do you keep messing this up? I don't understand it." Then he told me a story. He didn't know this subconsciously but we had a conversation one night where he told me a story. I was like, "Oh, my gosh. Subconsciously, you are linking the destruction of your family, your health and all these things to making money, because that's what happened the very first time. Now every time you get close to it, your whole subconscious mind is like, no, and starts making you do stupid things to destroy yourself from actually having success." I've seen ... Now, it's been a decade of me watching this. And as much as I love this person, I keep seeing him. He's so talented, so many gifts, and keeps not having any success because of this thing that happened in his youth. His is an extreme example, but this is happening to all of us. You think about when you were growing up, what are the things that your parents said about money? What are the things that you heard at church about money? What are the things you heard in different spots? There are so many things that have been ingrained in our head that we don't even know consciously. And also, we start having success in whatever. We start making money or we start getting close to making money, and all these warning signals are popping off in your head, like, don't get money because of this because you'll become a bad person and you're going to fall away from God. You're going to be doing this. You're going to be the bad person. You look at TV. Myron Golden is the first one that ever pointed this out to me. You look at every movie, every superhero movie, for the most part, the bad guy is the rich billionaire who is this horrible person. This is ingrained in our heads that money is going to make us evil. Those things are real, and even if you don't think that they're affecting you, they probably are. Josh: And then you don't consciously believe it. Subconsciously they control you. Russell: Yeah, it's affecting you. I've seen this in my own journey. When I first started making money, I thought everyone was going to be excited. I was like, "This is so cool." I was so excited to teach everybody else. I started making money. I start teaching people and try to show my friends and my family and what happened. The response I got was not what I thought it was going to be. It was not like, "This is amazing-" Josh: At all. Russell: "Let's try it." Instead it was weird, especially for my wife. My wife struggled with it even more so than me because I've had success in parts of my life in the past where ... In wrestling, I was a state champ, I was an all-American. I hit these different things, but there was this weird side of success you aren't expecting where the people around you who you think are going to be celebrating with you, they don't. In fact, I remember my mom when I bought my dream house ... My house is ... You've been to my house. Josh: Your house is insane. It's so awesome. Russell: It’s like the coolest thing in the world. When I was growing up, I wanted an insane house. I remember I was finally at a spot where I could buy this house. In the reality, I didn't pay it off immediately. I could've just paid cash for it. I didn't. But within two years I think I paid it off, which was a big deal for me. But I remember when I was buying my house, I remember a comment my mom said. She was like, "You don't want to buy a house like this because then you're going to be one of those rich people up on the hill." I was like, "What does that mean, mom?" She was like, "They're the ones that are always looking down at everybody else." I'm like, "What?" All of a sudden I was scared to tell my mom about my success because my mom viewed the rich people as this thing over here. And then other people. It was this weird thing where all of a sudden it makes you want to shrink down, it makes you want to hide because you're like, "I don't want people judging me because of this thing." For all of you guys, for all of us, there's these things that may happen, where comments are made, when people we love and respect were to all of a sudden to ... The side of success that you think is going to happen doesn't. Especially in money. I think money is a big one because it's such a thing. Josh: Yeah. I also think that because of the stories that we're told by everybody else, like you're saying, subconsciously it's ingrained in our society, what money is and how it works, nobody understands it. Taylor Welch ... You know Taylor, right? Taylor Welch? Russell: Yep. Josh: He's the one ... He and I have become ... I don't want to say good friends, but certainly friends over the past little bit. He was actually the very first person I ever interviewed on my podcast. Russell: Very cool. Josh: He got me into money. He was like, "Study money. Because once you understand how it works, it'll completely change your perspective of it." I always joke around with my mom. I'm like, "Money's not real. It's all fake." In America specifically, the U.S. dollar is not real. It's all fake and it's all made up. She always pushes back. She's like, "It's not fake because I can guy groceries with it." I'm like, "That right there, that shows that I have a different relationship ..." And side note, I freaking love my mom. My mom and I have an amazing relationship. But my mom and I have a completely different fundamental relationship with money. That was a very interesting learning lesson for me. When you change your relationship with money, when you change how it works, when you understand it differently and when you change your relationship with it, it also becomes not hard to get or keep, because now you're not needy of it. Your relationship changes with it. I always think about ... Take it back to dating. I'm not even going to say the book because I don't want people to go ... It's not a great book, but I was reading a clip out of this book one time and the guy in it goes, "Money and ..." Let's say, relationship. Money and girls are kind of the same thing. Those are not the words he used, but money and girls are the same way. If you're desperate and needy of it, you'll never have it. But if you don't care, it'll come abundantly. That was a very interesting shift for me as well. Anyway, I didn't mean to interrupt you but that was very interesting. Russell: It's key. As I studied Tony Robbins, the biggest thing I learned ... One of the biggest things. I shouldn't say the biggest, but is just becoming aware of things. I think the first step for of any us is being aware of how this is actually affecting you. For a lot of us, at whatever level you're at, the reason you're not at the next level is because there's some belief around it that's keeping you from there. It's interesting, I remember when I had the goal, when I hit a million dollars in a year, I didn't hit it three years in a row. Every year I was within $50,000. Like, $75,000. How am I not hitting this? It was like, I had these weird beliefs around that thing. As soon as I broke it, I was like, this is easy. Going from million to 10 million was next. Getting to two, three, five, eight million was easy, but then 10 million was this gap where I was stuck. It's beliefs. What's easy? What's hard? A couple things ... Again, this is one of those topics. I've never taught this before so I don't have the, here's the Russell three step framework. Things have happened in my life that I became aware of this for myself. One of them was, I had a coach ... I've had her a couple times throughout my life. She's awesome. One of my favorite coaches of all time. Her name is Tara Williams. Tara ... It was interesting because I always thought ... Again, especially people who are religious, there's always this belief of is money going to make me evil? You hear these things on the side. I definitely had this subconscious fear around that. If I get too much money, I'm going to forget God. I'm going to forget my family. All these things couple happen. Because they do. They happen to so many people. We see it. I had that fear behind it. I remember, especially when I bought my house, I was like, I bought this house and it's crazy. Anyway, Tara was at our house, actually, doing a coaching session with my wife and I. It was an interesting thing. But she said a couple things in that meeting that had a big impact on me. One of the things was ... She asked my wife this specifically. "Do you think this is bad that he bought this house?" My wife is like, "Yeah." She has so much guilt associated with it, because she's like ... It was interesting because Tara brought back, "Because you guys have money, talk about things you've done. Last year you gave a million dollars to OUR. Last year you did this. Last year you did this. How many people have you helped? How many entrepreneurs have you empowered? How many jobs have you created?" We started going through this whole thing, and it was like, all these things you're doing has been creating wealth for you. You have this wealth. You can just give it away and you guys do give a lot away, but is it bad for you now to enjoy some of it, to buy a house? Still she was like, "I don't know. Is it bad or not?" She's like, "Now you have this house, what have you guys done with this house?" I was like, "We have our kids here and we have our family here. We bring people here. We're able to serve people at a different level because we have these things." All of a sudden it was like, oh, my gosh, this isn't a bad thing. I remember hearing Richard Branson, somebody asked him ... Who was it? It was another one of those moments for me that opened my mind. But someone asked Branson, "Do you feel guilty that you're not down at the soup kitchen helping feed these people?" Branson's response was so powerful. He said, "The people of the soup kitchen who are feeding people, that's amazing. We're so grateful for them. They're giving their time and their effort. It's powerful. I'm not going to go to the soup kitchen and feed people soup, but I can give the soup kitchen $50,000, and that's going to feed 10,000 people. It's different service but it's still service, and this is able to help even more people." I started thinking about that. Man, these tools that we create, like wealth and the things that we have can be so much more impactful if we use it correctly. It's not a bad thing. It's just understanding these are tools that we have. Anyway ... Josh: It's interesting you say that and phrase it that way because that was one of the things, actually, Brad Gibb, he's a very good friend of mine as well, and we talk a lot. And he's taught me probably more about money as far as investing how it works and how to use it and things like that, probably more than anybody else. Very, very smart. One of the things that he said is money is not all the same. He's like, "You can have a million dollars over here and a million dollars over here and one of them be used for good and to multiply and to be productive, and one of them be used just to indulge and be gluttonous and to be greedy. Is money good or bad? It's not good, it's not bad. It is. It is a tool for exchange. How you go and use it will determine whether or not it's good or bad for you in your own life." When he put it that way, I was like, if I have my money and I'm investing and I'm multiplying it and it's creating freedom and then I'm using that to be able to go out and give back, all of a sudden money is now good. It makes me be able to do my job better. But if I'm just going and I make a million dollars and I go to Vegas and I put 100 grand on black, cool. Maybe once in your lifetime. But that is not a good thing anymore. Now it's taking away from your gift. It can either be an amplifier or it can be something that takes away. That was a really, really big shift for me. It was like, how am I using it? Russell: It's powerful. Again, it just comes down to there's so many subconscious things that are weird about it. Next thing I want to talk about for entrepreneurs too ... And this is a trap with money that I got caught into for almost 15 years. When I stared my business, I remember I started making some money. I figured out what my wife and I needed to live. I think at the time it was $8,000 a month that was giving us the most amazing lifestyle ever. We set it up where our paycheck was eight grand a month and that's what was coming from the company. And everything else in the company I kept reinvesting back into the company. For a while that's important. That's where we're going to grow, where we're going to expand it. I look at my business for the next decade at least, maybe longer, I never pulled anything else out. It only kept getting reinvested, reinvested. And eventually ... Some of you guys heard my story. 10, 12 years ago we had this big crash where everything got shut down and we lost everything. And the thing that sucked is when it all was said and done, I had nothing. We never pulled money out. We never invested. We never did anything. It was all being reinvested back into the business. I got my guarantee, we had our certainty, eight grand a month coming in consistently every single time, but then nothing happened. I remember when we launched after that happened and everything crashed and we were rebuilding back up, during that time we had no money so everything is being reinvested back into the business because we had no business at that point. We started figuring this out. That's where I met Todd. We launched Click Funnels. When we launched Click Funnels, I instantly went back to my same pattern. Like, cool, all the money goes back into Click Funnels. That's how we're going to do this thing. Todd was like, "Dude, just so you understand, I did not build this thing to just have a good paycheck and let this thing keep growing. This is not worth it for me unless we pull money out." I remember I was like ... I had so much fear and I was like, "No. We can't do this." This is one of Todd and I's first and probably only real things where he was just like, "It's not worth it to me unless this is producing money that's being put over here for my family, for my church, for my faith, all the things I want to be doing." Again, we fought back and forth for a couple of months. The very first time we had some profit. I was like, "What do I do with this profit? Put it back in the business." Todd was like, "No, we need to pull it out of the business," and we fought back and forth. Finally, we figured out a way to make us both happy where we figured ... At the time, we need three months of money in reserve. Worst case scenario, that's there. But then after that's over, all of the money, 100% of the money needs to be pulled out and given to the owners. Otherwise we're going to be like you were, Russell, 15 years in and you've got nothing to show for it. All the stress, all the effort, all the energy, and nothing to show for it. That's how we set things up. I remember it was so scary for me. In fact, when we started pulling out and distributing out the profits every single month, I kept mine in there for two years. I didn't touch a penny of it because I'm like ... It's in my separate account. It's over there. What was crazy, though, is that all of a sudden this thing that I was doing started actually producing wealth for me, which took the stress down. I started seeing this thing happening, and all of a sudden it started giving me options where I had no options ahead of time. I think for a lot of entrepreneurs it's like, we have this thing ... It's funny because I see even big people like Gary Vee talk about this, like, "I don't care about money. I dump all my money back in. I'm just building this brand." I'm like, I thought that was the thing for a while too, but it's not. If the business is not producing wealth for the owners, what's the point of it? Eventually you got a job and that's it. It needs to be doing something or else it's not serving you, and therefore, it's not a gift. Josh: Was that the thing, though, helping you overcome that? Was it just doing it? Is that what helped you overcome it? Russell: Yeah, Todd forced me. If it wasn't for Todd, I would still be pulling out eight grand a month and that would be where I would be living. 100%. Todd forced me to do it and it stressed me out. I was so scared. For two years I didn't touch the money and all of a sudden it was like, oh, my gosh, there's this money here. Now I have the ability to ... This thing I had created, this value I was trying to put into the world was paying us back, and now we could ... Now we had all sorts of options. Especially when you're really pushing and you're working hard and you're grinding on something, if aren't seeing some tangible value back from it, it's not serving you. It's just taking from you. Again, this was my personal money, one of my personal issues I struggled with. This may or may not be that, but I would say for all of you guys, looking at this as you are creating a business and creating wealth, you need to be pulling things out. What you do with it is up to you. Like you talked about, use it for good, evil. You can give it to charity. You can do whatever. But if the business is just paying for itself, the business will continue to eat up all your money. It will. You leave money it, it's going to continue to eat it up and it'll disappear as fast as it can possibly happen. But if you start pulling it out and it's over here and it's different, man, it becomes more efficient. It becomes more effective. Everything becomes better because of that. Josh: It's funny, because my thing ... I had that same struggle except I wasn't even paying myself. I was literally just, what are my bills for the month, the bare minimum, and then that was it. And then I met my now wife and I started thinking about finances and she wanted stuff. I was like, but also the business. It was kind of like this thing. Katie came along and was like, "Josh ..." The very first ... She didn't give me a lot of tactical things. It was very mindset-focused. I remember one of the biggest tactical things that she gave me out of the very few that she did, she was like, "You need to pay yourself a paycheck, and that paycheck needs to not only be enough to cover all of your expenses, but it needs to in excess." When I started to put away multiple thousand dollars a month into savings or into being able to invest outside of the company, it changed my whole entire perspective. Weirdly enough, magically, the business made more money. It was like, made it every month. It was like, we're entrepreneurs. We figure out problems. Our brain programs for it. And then I started looking at it as myself as an expense. I was like, I'm a line item on the books. Just like I pay a contractor, that's me. All of a sudden, the business made enough money to cover that. But before that, it didn't. It was crazy. Russell: It's interesting because when you start seeing the results ... I've talked about this before. If you look at my Disc profile, there's the D-I-S-C, and then there's your values. My number one value is ROI. If I can't see the ROI of a situation, it makes it harder for me to do it. I was in business for a decade and a half and the ROI I was getting was good. I was like, "I'm helping people and having success, and it's fun to see the success stories." That was the ROI I was getting, and it was good. It kept me going. But man, I look at the last seven years of Click Funnel, it was like the pressure and the stress and all of the type of things. If it wasn't for the ROI, it took this pressure, but here's the ROI of it, I wouldn't have been able to do it. As soon as I started seeing the ROI and the ROI gets bigger and bigger and bigger, all of a sudden it's like, this becomes fun again and you get excited. How do I make the ROI ... For me, it's all about the ROI, the return on investment, any situation is the key. If you don't have the ROI, it gets hard. It's hard to be creative. It's hard to come up with the next idea, the next thing, and the stress and the pressure that comes. What's the return on investment for the effort you're putting into it? But if you see the ROI and you start amplifying it, then it becomes a more fun game. That's where you start growing from a million to a 10 to 100 and beyond because it's like, I see this game. I'm playing it. I'm getting the return on investment. But I never saw that before because the only return on investment I was getting was this one thing, and those things they feel good, but it's hard to keep score with the feel goods. You got to have a scoreboard to see, like, oh, my gosh, I'm winning. Can I win even more? What's it going to look like? And now it gives you options and opportunities… Josh: You mean you're telling me that all the stress and pressure isn't worth $8,000 a month? Russell: You know, I could get ... I was like ... Nowadays with all of the inflation, I can work at McDonald's for eight grand a month, I think. It's crazy. Josh: Man. Russell: But back then- Josh: That's crazy. Russell: That was the ... Anyway, it's crazy. Josh: You can buy Bitcoin and keep up with inflation. Bitcoin, the savior of money. One more. I kind of want to dive ... I wasn't going to make this a money episode, because that's kind of where it's been. When did you make the shift ... One of the big problems with entrepreneurs, talking maybe a little bit more established entrepreneur, is once they're making money ... I was talking with Brad about this and he was talking about in the inner circle. He was in there ... Or in Category Kings, right? The guy's like, "What's the main problem that you solve?" Brad was like, "So interesting. We thought we could answer that question." Then he asked us it and we try to do it, and it was like, dang, what is the main problem that we solve? What he said is one of the things that they came down to was entrepreneurs know that if they have money, it should be doing more. But they don't know what to do with it. This is something that you probably are an amplified example of this, because you're really, really good at making money. You don't even need to think about what your money should be doing because you can just go make more of it. Once again, that because you've unshackled us. It's like, "All right, want a new car? Go build a funnel. You want a palace? Go build a funnel. Want to take a vacation? Launch a funnel. Just do a funnel and you print money." For you, when did that shift happen for you when you actually started paying attention to, I can't just leave my money in an account right now? I can't just buy cars and houses because those don't make me ... You have houses, you've got the cars, you've got everything you've ever wanted and you still have money left over, so when did you make that shift of, my money needs to be doing more, and how did you solve that problem? Russell: Interesting. This is one that's been more recently solved for me, actually, which is fascinating. For a long I was just hoarding it. Just hoarding it, keeping it here. Then Brad and Ryan ... You have to invest it. I'm like, "I don't want to do that." They forced me to do ... I give them a bunch of money every year and they do whatever they do with it, and that's awesome. I'm like, "Okay, cool. Something is happening." But then the money kept adding up. I remember one day I was like, "I'm in a weird spot where I could buy almost anything I want. What do I want? I'm going to go and spend some money." I remember going to eBay and I was like, "I'm going to buy anything I want." I was searching for stuff, and I spent four hours on eBay when all of a sudden I spent three grand. I was like, "That's it. I got everything I wanted." I was like, "Oh, crap, now what do I do with it?" It was interesting, because for me, it was like ... Again, this is something ... It's been a recent development. I can't remember if it was this podcast or the one I talked about it, I was like, I didn't know what to do with this. Yeah, I could invest in real estate, but that wasn't inspiring to me. I have money in crypto, but that's not inspiring. What's the things that's going to inspire me to want to do more? Again, it's ROI for me. What's going to give me the ROI of now I got to create more money so I can do this thing? So I have a lot of things. Again, we give money to charity. All those things are good and they get me excited. But I was like, what would be the thing that, for me, would amplify? When we bought Dan Kennedy's company, it was the first time I felt it. I bought his thing. We reorganized it, cleaned it up, and I was like, "Oh, my gosh, I'm able to take these things that were so precious to me and I can bring them back to the world, and I can monetize them. I can actually make money off of this thing." I got really excited. I told you I started buying old books. I started investing in Napoleon Hill books and Charles Haanel and Orison Swett Marden and Samuel Smiles and all these people, the founding fathers of personal development and business and all these kinds of things. I've literally spent a small fortune ... I've spent a lot of money in the last couple months on these old, old books, because now it's like, I'm not investing in real estate that's over here. I'm investing in these things I don't care about. Now it's like I'm investing in something that I can take and that I can turn this into more money, and I can turn it into help. I can serve my entrepreneurs. I can do more things with it. For me, that's what's been stimulating for me. That was the investment of ... It was like, I can dump it back into things, but it was like something that's meaningful to me. For some people, crypto is meaningful. For some people it's NFT. Finding the thing that's not just like, I'm investing to invest, but what's the thing that you're passionate about it where it becomes more than just ... For me, that's what I'm geeking out on. You know this, next door I'm building a 20,000 square foot library to house all these books, to build an event center, to build all these kind of things because this is what I feel like my life's mission is. I'm curating all these ideas and I'm bringing them back to people in the simple new form to help these ideas and these concepts live on. For me, that's double fulfilling because it'll make me money, but it's also something that can serve the people I've been called to serve as well. Again, buying Kennedy's company, I'm serving these people, but I'm also making money, which gives me the ability to serve more people. It's kind of fun. Josh: What was the shift, though? For a while you didn't do that, right? Russell: For a while I just sat there. I didn't know what it was. Josh: Who or what got you to the point where you're like, "Okay, I've got to go figure this out"? Yes, this is what you ended up doing with it, but I think a lot of people, there's got to be that thing that's like, "This is when I realized I got to figure out ..." Or some people just let it sit their whole life, I guess. You know what I'm saying? Russell: I heard stories about ... I don't know how true ... But like Scottie Pippen or Mike Tyson, he made half a billion dollars and he's broke. I was like, I don't want to be that dude who made a half a billion dollars and is broke right now. I need to figure out ... I always joke with Brad and Ryan when we were writing their webinar page initially, I was like ... On 30 Rock, there's that scene where Liz Lemon is talking to Alec Baldwin and he's like, "I need that thing that rich people do where they turn money into more money." He's like, "Investing?" He's like, "Yeah. I want to do that." For me, it was like, I've got money here. I need to figure out how to turn money into more money, that's not just me doing the whole thing. How do we amplify what we’re doing? How do we have that exponential growth? That was kind of the thing that got me into it. Again, initially it was doing the things that weren't exciting. I'd invested money in real estate and I hated that, so I had Brad and Ryan, I invested money with them. That was cool. It was passive. It wasn't passionate. I was trying to figure out what's the thing that I'm going to be passionate about, where now it becomes part of a game. Now I can see the ROI on this thing. I invested $40,000 this weekend on old books, how do I turn that into $400,000 or four million or 40 million? Can I do that? Now begins ... Now it's fun. Some people, real estate is that game. I got friends who own 100 houses, or 200 houses, and that's the game that they love. I look at Tai Lopez and he's buying these businesses. That's the game that he loves. What's the game you're going to love, the investing game you're going to love? There's a million ways to invest, but when you find one that you love, then it becomes ... Now it becomes a fun part of the game. I think it's understanding first off you need to do it, otherwise you're going to ... You mentioned this ... I can't remember if it was before we started recording, but people who have won Two Comma Club and they got nothing, or Two Comma Club X and they're broke. Entrepreneurs are good at generating money, but there's this other part that you got to learn how to invest it correctly. Otherwise, you're going to pull a Tyson or a Pippen and be broke in a couple of years from now. Yeah, I got 3 Two Comma Club awards on the wall, but I'm trying to figure out how to feed my family this weekend, and that’s now where you want to be… Josh: That's so crazy that's a reality for people. It really, really is. I think that's one of the things that I am very, very thankful to have learned relatively early on, is ... Russell: They're two different skill sets. Making money- Josh: They are. Russell: And keeping money are not the same thing. Josh: Yeah. Russell: They are completely different skill sets. In fact, typically, the people who are good at making money are the worst at managing it. Josh: Keeping it. Russell: It's like yin and yang. Understanding that if you're good at making it, you find people around you, like Brad and Ryan, I was like, "Here's money. Do that thing you do because I don't want to mess it up." Josh: Yeah. Russell: In fact, it's funny, before I invested money with Brad and Ryan, I invested it in two different deals. I was like, "This is the greatest thing in the world." Both of them, literally both of them turned out to Ponzi schemes. I got to write off multiple of millions of dollars last year because I gave money to ideas that were so good that me as the entrepreneur was like, "This is genius. This is the greatest thing in the world." Ponzi scheme. I got sold on the thing. It's funny, one of my friends just sold his business for eight figures and he messages me. He was like, "All right. I want to ask your opinion. Where should I put this money?" I was like, "Dude, do not ask me. If I think it's a good idea, it's going to be a Ponzi scheme. Find someone who, that's their life, is that, like Brad and Ryan. Go give your money to them," or find something like I'm doing now with the books and stuff, where it's like now. This is something that fits into my skill set. I think it was ... What's the old dude who invests all the money? Warren Buffett, that said only invest in things you understand. It's like, I understand how to turn old information into money. I'm investing in information and intellectual property because I can turn that into more money, and so that becomes something I can invest in, because I understand the game. I don't understand- Josh: So interesting. Russell: This, but I do understand this, therefore, I will invest in the thing I understand because I can turn this into more money. Josh: That makes sense. Side note on Warren Buffett, you know 80% of his wealth or something like that came off of nine trades? Russell: Really? Josh: Nine investments that he made, it produced 80% of his wealth or something like that. Isn't that insane? Russell: That is fascinating. Josh: That's why when ... I read the quote from him, it was in the context of this quote. It was like, Warren Buffett is like, everyone thinks they have to make a bunch of good decisions. He was like, "I try to make three good decisions a year." I was like, "Oh, my gosh. What the heck?" And then I found out that 80% of his wealth came from ... It was eight or nine trades or something, or investments, and I was like, "All right. I guess that makes sense, then, if you only need to make ..." Anyway, last question, rapid fire question on money. Is there anything that you could do, if you could go back and change something about what you've done or your handling with money, is there anything that you would change, and if so, what's the biggest thing that would be? Russell: Good question. I think I would've started ... Number one, I would've started pulling money out of my business faster. Number two, I would've had a plan for what I would do with that money. I wish I would've said, "I'm going to pull out ... After three months of thing, pull out all the profit, I'm going to put 25% in real estate, 25% in crypto, 25% in something else, and just have that happening in the background, I'd be a much wealthier man today." It took me a long, long time before I did that. Todd forced me to start putting money into crypto, which was one of the greatest gifts ever for me. Brad and Ryan are now forcing me to put money over here. It's like taking that and putting it in spots where again, it's not going to be 100%. I'm going to fall for two Ponzi schemes a year probably, but if I can get one of them to win and three of them to fail, or whatever that is, that's the big thing. I always thought that I will start pulling money out when blah. When I hit Two Comma Club, when I hit a million. The problem is that win never comes. You got to structure from day number one. When money comes in, boom. Profits come out. This happens here. I pay myself first. From the money I pay myself, 10% is going to go for me to go do stupid things, 25% is going to go into real estate or Bitcoin or stocks or whatever. And dividing that stuff up so it's happening at a small level, because when that happens, I wasted a decade and a half before any kind of investments happening. Can you imagine if I had 15 years of the stuff I was doing, turning into something? I missed out on so much of that, that I wish I would've done. Josh: You just got to make sure that you have a small percentage there, which is dedicated to losing bets and Bitcoin to Josh. If you have that, then we're good. For the rest of your life, you're going to be losing bets, so that's how that's going to work. Guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode with money. I'll let you sign it off, but this was awesome. We get to hear Russell Brunson talk about money, which is something that, you make a ton of it, but you don't really talk about it, which is awesome. Thanks for sharing a little bit more. Russell: Thank you. I apologize I don't have a framework for this yet, but this gets me thinking, man, if I could figure out something for entrepreneurs, this is the next thing to do, so then I'll talk more about it as I figure things out. But it's fascinating. I remember I bought a Dan Kennedy course on wealth creation, and it was fascinating because I'd heard Dan talk about building businesses and all that sort of stuff, but it was the first time he ever talked about wealth. Again, same thing. Fascinating. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I never thought about that side of the coin because most entrepreneurs don't talk about it, or don't think about it. I think it's important for us to think and talk and do more with it because again, 15 years of never investing anything, man, it would've been nice. I'd be in a different spot right now than I am today, for sure. Thank you, Josh, for hanging out and talking about money. Hopefully you guys enjoyed this episode. 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Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. One of the questions I get asked a lot about, and I don't spend a lot of time talking about it, is actually money and mindset around money, and how that works, and things that can help you to make more money, things that hold you back from making money. They have nothing to do with your skill set, it just has everything to do with the conversations, the beliefs, the things inside of your mind. This interview with Josh Forti, it was really fun and hopefully you enjoy it. Hopefully it'll help you if you do have money blocks, to help you get unstuck. If you don't think you have money blocks, you probably do. And this hopefully, interview, will make you very aware of those things, and help you to find those things and knock them out in your life. That said, we'll keep the theme song, and when we come back, listen in on this interview with me and Josh Forti. What's up everybody? Welcome back The Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm here today again with Josh Forti, and we're having so much fun today. We just recorded one episode and now we're going deep into episode number two, which we're going to be talking about mindset as it relates to things that are very specific to you guys as entrepreneurs. I'll Josh talk more about this as he's going to be queuing up the question, but hope you guys enjoy this episode as well. Josh Forti: All right, man. First off, we got to talk about your shirt. I feel like there's got to be a story behind this. Guys, for those of you that are listening on audio, let me just explain real quick. It is a skull and crossbones, but it's not just a skull and crossbones. It's got bunny ears on the skull. It's got little waves off to the side. What does it say on the sleeve? Russell: It says, "Psycho bunny." Josh: Psycho bunny. Russell: This is actually a really cool brand called Psycho Bunny, and I bought a couple of their things. I'm like, "This is a cool brand." And then I was shopping with Bart Miller in Vegas, and they have a Psycho Bunny shop. I went in there- Josh: Oh dang! Russell: And they had shirts and jackets and suit jackets that have the Psycho Bunny inside. It's just a fun, cool brand, and I really like it. Psycho Bunny. Josh: Okay. There's no grand, huge story behind how you got it. You just liked it. Russell: I should buy the company because it'd be really cool. Anyway, nope. Nothing. Josh: Guys, when you're a funnel hacker and when you decide to take over the world and create empires, you can randomly decide on a podcast that you're just going to ... "I should buy the company." That's not a normal thing that most people get to say, but it's super dope. Russell: This could be a fun episode in the future because as we acquired two big companies last year and I'm learning about this and having more fun with it, there are some cool ... For most of us, we look at a company, like, "There's no way I could buy that company," but then like Tai Lopez who just bought RadioShack and he bought Pier 1 Imports and all these companies… Josh: Dress Barn. Yeah. Russell: Now, I bought a couple companies and I'm like, oh, my gosh, there's actually a really cool strategy where it doesn't technically cost you any money if you do it correctly. We bought Dan Kennedy's company for a steal. We've launched the first thing. Now we made our money back. And now moving forward, everything I do with Dan Kennedy's company is pure, unadulterated profit to the bottom line. And that's exciting because ... All of a sudden it's like, you can actually buy companies when you understand the core principles of what we do. Anyway, that's a topic for another day, but it's kind of a fun one. Josh: So much fun stuff. Topic for another day. We'll do many episodes. Now is not the time. We're going to dive into what I think goes really well with our last episode. Last episode we talked about goal setting and setting things up, and that last bit of it was around identity and beliefs and values and rules and things like that. I want to talk about mindset here, and specifically the mindset ... There's a couple core key areas, because what's interesting is a lot of times we think mindset is we have to train our minds to think a certain way, or we have to overcome false beliefs about bad things. Like, "I'll never be successful" or "I'll never be this." But it goes both ways, because often times we can have fear of success. We can have fear that, oh, my gosh, what happens if I actually achieve that goal? There's so many different things around that, that we could dive into, but I want to kick off with this one specifically around mindset around money. I do want to talk about not just money, failure, doing the impossible, things like that, but I want to start with money because I feel like money is one of these things that we all have some form of weird relationship with it. Very few people grew up in a home where their parents and everybody around them had a healthy relationship with money, because most people ... I would say 90 plus percent of the people that I've met do not have a healthy relationship with money. They don't understand it. They don't understand what it represents, how it works, any of the things with it. For you, I want you to take us back because one of things, and I've kind of told you this at the beginning, a lot of people in the ClickFunnels world, like Russell. I was talking to Brad Gibb the other day. Shout out to Brad. He's awesome. He's like, "Russell has come and he's taken these handcuffs off of us, to where now we just can print money." It's ridiculous. It's kind of a cheat code. When we talk about it to all of our friends, we go around and we're like, "Yeah, we just kind of make money on the Internet." They're like, "How do you do that?" We're like, "We don't know. We just do what Russell says and it just works." Russell: It’s a magic trick! Josh: It just shows up. It's amazing. We've kind of unshackled the making of money, if we follow what it is, but keeping money. But our thoughts around money, our beliefs around money, how we perceive and value money, how we think money is going to change us. All of these different other things around money, those things are now new problems that a lot of us are running into, or have not yet applied the things that you've told us to do because of those beliefs. I think both of those are true. I've seen so many people ... I made not a ton, ton of money, but certainly 10 times more money than I'd ever made in my life when I first got started, and blew it all because of my poor, very unhealthy, almost toxic relationship with money. Take us back, what are the money shifts or the beliefs around money, specifically in mindset, that you had to go through. I'm just going to kind of leave that open ended and see where you take it. Russell: The first thing I think that would be useful for everyone is for everyone to actually, honestly sit down and look at their relationship with money and understand it ... It's funny because if you would ask Russell 15 years ago Russell if this was actually a real thing, I'd be like, "No, this is stupid. Just make money. It's easy." But I had a friend who I worked with, man, probably 12, 13 years ago on a project and he was someone who is super charismatic, super dynamic, super talented person. When he was younger, he used his talents and his gifts and he made a whole bunch of money really, really fast. Crazy, crazy money. Money that doesn't make any sense. When he got that money, he started doing stupid things with it. He got into drugs and alcohol and all the problems that are associated with when you make too much money too fast as a kid, and almost destroyed his life. He almost died. He almost lost his family and his marriage. All these things happened. He lost all the money, which was probably a blessing. And then he refixed his life. And then he got back to the spot where he's like, "I want to make money again." I watched him for probably 10 years of his life, where he would do all the right things, he would get close to making a bunch of money and then he would literally subconsciously destroy everything he had built, and it kept happening. At first I was so confused by it. I'm like, "You were so close. How do you keep messing this up? I don't understand it." Then he told me a story. He didn't know this subconsciously but we had a conversation one night where he told me a story. I was like, "Oh, my gosh. Subconsciously, you are linking the destruction of your family, your health and all these things to making money, because that's what happened the very first time. Now every time you get close to it, your whole subconscious mind is like, no, and starts making you do stupid things to destroy yourself from actually having success." I've seen ... Now, it's been a decade of me watching this. And as much as I love this person, I keep seeing him. He's so talented, so many gifts, and keeps not having any success because of this thing that happened in his youth. His is an extreme example, but this is happening to all of us. You think about when you were growing up, what are the things that your parents said about money? What are the things that you heard at church about money? What are the things you heard in different spots? There are so many things that have been ingrained in our head that we don't even know consciously. And also, we start having success in whatever. We start making money or we start getting close to making money, and all these warning signals are popping off in your head, like, don't get money because of this because you'll become a bad person and you're going to fall away from God. You're going to be doing this. You're going to be the bad person. You look at TV. Myron Golden is the first one that ever pointed this out to me. You look at every movie, every superhero movie, for the most part, the bad guy is the rich billionaire who is this horrible person. This is ingrained in our heads that money is going to make us evil. Those things are real, and even if you don't think that they're affecting you, they probably are. Josh: And then you don't consciously believe it. Subconsciously they control you. Russell: Yeah, it's affecting you. I've seen this in my own journey. When I first started making money, I thought everyone was going to be excited. I was like, "This is so cool." I was so excited to teach everybody else. I started making money. I start teaching people and try to show my friends and my family and what happened. The response I got was not what I thought it was going to be. It was not like, "This is amazing-" Josh: At all. Russell: "Let's try it." Instead it was weird, especially for my wife. My wife struggled with it even more so than me because I've had success in parts of my life in the past where ... In wrestling, I was a state champ, I was an all-American. I hit these different things, but there was this weird side of success you aren't expecting where the people around you who you think are going to be celebrating with you, they don't. In fact, I remember my mom when I bought my dream house ... My house is ... You've been to my house. Josh: Your house is insane. It's so awesome. Russell: It’s like the coolest thing in the world. When I was growing up, I wanted an insane house. I remember I was finally at a spot where I could buy this house. In the reality, I didn't pay it off immediately. I could've just paid cash for it. I didn't. But within two years I think I paid it off, which was a big deal for me. But I remember when I was buying my house, I remember a comment my mom said. She was like, "You don't want to buy a house like this because then you're going to be one of those rich people up on the hill." I was like, "What does that mean, mom?" She was like, "They're the ones that are always looking down at everybody else." I'm like, "What?" All of a sudden I was scared to tell my mom about my success because my mom viewed the rich people as this thing over here. And then other people. It was this weird thing where all of a sudden it makes you want to shrink down, it makes you want to hide because you're like, "I don't want people judging me because of this thing." For all of you guys, for all of us, there's these things that may happen, where comments are made, when people we love and respect were to all of a sudden to ... The side of success that you think is going to happen doesn't. Especially in money. I think money is a big one because it's such a thing. Josh: Yeah. I also think that because of the stories that we're told by everybody else, like you're saying, subconsciously it's ingrained in our society, what money is and how it works, nobody understands it. Taylor Welch ... You know Taylor, right? Taylor Welch? Russell: Yep. Josh: He's the one ... He and I have become ... I don't want to say good friends, but certainly friends over the past little bit. He was actually the very first person I ever interviewed on my podcast. Russell: Very cool. Josh: He got me into money. He was like, "Study money. Because once you understand how it works, it'll completely change your perspective of it." I always joke around with my mom. I'm like, "Money's not real. It's all fake." In America specifically, the U.S. dollar is not real. It's all fake and it's all made up. She always pushes back. She's like, "It's not fake because I can guy groceries with it." I'm like, "That right there, that shows that I have a different relationship ..." And side note, I freaking love my mom. My mom and I have an amazing relationship. But my mom and I have a completely different fundamental relationship with money. That was a very interesting learning lesson for me. When you change your relationship with money, when you change how it works, when you understand it differently and when you change your relationship with it, it also becomes not hard to get or keep, because now you're not needy of it. Your relationship changes with it. I always think about ... Take it back to dating. I'm not even going to say the book because I don't want people to go ... It's not a great book, but I was reading a clip out of this book one time and the guy in it goes, "Money and ..." Let's say, relationship. Money and girls are kind of the same thing. Those are not the words he used, but money and girls are the same way. If you're desperate and needy of it, you'll never have it. But if you don't care, it'll come abundantly. That was a very interesting shift for me as well. Anyway, I didn't mean to interrupt you but that was very interesting. Russell: It's key. As I studied Tony Robbins, the biggest thing I learned ... One of the biggest things. I shouldn't say the biggest, but is just becoming aware of things. I think the first step for of any us is being aware of how this is actually affecting you. For a lot of us, at whatever level you're at, the reason you're not at the next level is because there's some belief around it that's keeping you from there. It's interesting, I remember when I had the goal, when I hit a million dollars in a year, I didn't hit it three years in a row. Every year I was within $50,000. Like, $75,000. How am I not hitting this? It was like, I had these weird beliefs around that thing. As soon as I broke it, I was like, this is easy. Going from million to 10 million was next. Getting to two, three, five, eight million was easy, but then 10 million was this gap where I was stuck. It's beliefs. What's easy? What's hard? A couple things ... Again, this is one of those topics. I've never taught this before so I don't have the, here's the Russell three step framework. Things have happened in my life that I became aware of this for myself. One of them was, I had a coach ... I've had her a couple times throughout my life. She's awesome. One of my favorite coaches of all time. Her name is Tara Williams. Tara ... It was interesting because I always thought ... Again, especially people who are religious, there's always this belief of is money going to make me evil? You hear these things on the side. I definitely had this subconscious fear around that. If I get too much money, I'm going to forget God. I'm going to forget my family. All these things couple happen. Because they do. They happen to so many people. We see it. I had that fear behind it. I remember, especially when I bought my house, I was like, I bought this house and it's crazy. Anyway, Tara was at our house, actually, doing a coaching session with my wife and I. It was an interesting thing. But she said a couple things in that meeting that had a big impact on me. One of the things was ... She asked my wife this specifically. "Do you think this is bad that he bought this house?" My wife is like, "Yeah." She has so much guilt associated with it, because she's like ... It was interesting because Tara brought back, "Because you guys have money, talk about things you've done. Last year you gave a million dollars to OUR. Last year you did this. Last year you did this. How many people have you helped? How many entrepreneurs have you empowered? How many jobs have you created?" We started going through this whole thing, and it was like, all these things you're doing has been creating wealth for you. You have this wealth. You can just give it away and you guys do give a lot away, but is it bad for you now to enjoy some of it, to buy a house? Still she was like, "I don't know. Is it bad or not?" She's like, "Now you have this house, what have you guys done with this house?" I was like, "We have our kids here and we have our family here. We bring people here. We're able to serve people at a different level because we have these things." All of a sudden it was like, oh, my gosh, this isn't a bad thing. I remember hearing Richard Branson, somebody asked him ... Who was it? It was another one of those moments for me that opened my mind. But someone asked Branson, "Do you feel guilty that you're not down at the soup kitchen helping feed these people?" Branson's response was so powerful. He said, "The people of the soup kitchen who are feeding people, that's amazing. We're so grateful for them. They're giving their time and their effort. It's powerful. I'm not going to go to the soup kitchen and feed people soup, but I can give the soup kitchen $50,000, and that's going to feed 10,000 people. It's different service but it's still service, and this is able to help even more people." I started thinking about that. Man, these tools that we create, like wealth and the things that we have can be so much more impactful if we use it correctly. It's not a bad thing. It's just understanding these are tools that we have. Anyway ... Josh: It's interesting you say that and phrase it that way because that was one of the things, actually, Brad Gibb, he's a very good friend of mine as well, and we talk a lot. And he's taught me probably more about money as far as investing how it works and how to use it and things like that, probably more than anybody else. Very, very smart. One of the things that he said is money is not all the same. He's like, "You can have a million dollars over here and a million dollars over here and one of them be used for good and to multiply and to be productive, and one of them be used just to indulge and be gluttonous and to be greedy. Is money good or bad? It's not good, it's not bad. It is. It is a tool for exchange. How you go and use it will determine whether or not it's good or bad for you in your own life." When he put it that way, I was like, if I have my money and I'm investing and I'm multiplying it and it's creating freedom and then I'm using that to be able to go out and give back, all of a sudden money is now good. It makes me be able to do my job better. But if I'm just going and I make a million dollars and I go to Vegas and I put 100 grand on black, cool. Maybe once in your lifetime. But that is not a good thing anymore. Now it's taking away from your gift. It can either be an amplifier or it can be something that takes away. That was a really, really big shift for me. It was like, how am I using it? Russell: It's powerful. Again, it just comes down to there's so many subconscious things that are weird about it. Next thing I want to talk about for entrepreneurs too ... And this is a trap with money that I got caught into for almost 15 years. When I stared my business, I remember I started making some money. I figured out what my wife and I needed to live. I think at the time it was $8,000 a month that was giving us the most amazing lifestyle ever. We set it up where our paycheck was eight grand a month and that's what was coming from the company. And everything else in the company I kept reinvesting back into the company. For a while that's important. That's where we're going to grow, where we're going to expand it. I look at my business for the next decade at least, maybe longer, I never pulled anything else out. It only kept getting reinvested, reinvested. And eventually ... Some of you guys heard my story. 10, 12 years ago we had this big crash where everything got shut down and we lost everything. And the thing that sucked is when it all was said and done, I had nothing. We never pulled money out. We never invested. We never did anything. It was all being reinvested back into the business. I got my guarantee, we had our certainty, eight grand a month coming in consistently every single time, but then nothing happened. I remember when we launched after that happened and everything crashed and we were rebuilding back up, during that time we had no money so everything is being reinvested back into the business because we had no business at that point. We started figuring this out. That's where I met Todd. We launched Click Funnels. When we launched Click Funnels, I instantly went back to my same pattern. Like, cool, all the money goes back into Click Funnels. That's how we're going to do this thing. Todd was like, "Dude, just so you understand, I did not build this thing to just have a good paycheck and let this thing keep growing. This is not worth it for me unless we pull money out." I remember I was like ... I had so much fear and I was like, "No. We can't do this." This is one of Todd and I's first and probably only real things where he was just like, "It's not worth it to me unless this is producing money that's being put over here for my family, for my church, for my faith, all the things I want to be doing." Again, we fought back and forth for a couple of months. The very first time we had some profit. I was like, "What do I do with this profit? Put it back in the business." Todd was like, "No, we need to pull it out of the business," and we fought back and forth. Finally, we figured out a way to make us both happy where we figured ... At the time, we need three months of money in reserve. Worst case scenario, that's there. But then after that's over, all of the money, 100% of the money needs to be pulled out and given to the owners. Otherwise we're going to be like you were, Russell, 15 years in and you've got nothing to show for it. All the stress, all the effort, all the energy, and nothing to show for it. That's how we set things up. I remember it was so scary for me. In fact, when we started pulling out and distributing out the profits every single month, I kept mine in there for two years. I didn't touch a penny of it because I'm like ... It's in my separate account. It's over there. What was crazy, though, is that all of a sudden this thing that I was doing started actually producing wealth for me, which took the stress down. I started seeing this thing happening, and all of a sudden it started giving me options where I had no options ahead of time. I think for a lot of entrepreneurs it's like, we have this thing ... It's funny because I see even big people like Gary Vee talk about this, like, "I don't care about money. I dump all my money back in. I'm just building this brand." I'm like, I thought that was the thing for a while too, but it's not. If the business is not producing wealth for the owners, what's the point of it? Eventually you got a job and that's it. It needs to be doing something or else it's not serving you, and therefore, it's not a gift. Josh: Was that the thing, though, helping you overcome that? Was it just doing it? Is that what helped you overcome it? Russell: Yeah, Todd forced me. If it wasn't for Todd, I would still be pulling out eight grand a month and that would be where I would be living. 100%. Todd forced me to do it and it stressed me out. I was so scared. For two years I didn't touch the money and all of a sudden it was like, oh, my gosh, there's this money here. Now I have the ability to ... This thing I had created, this value I was trying to put into the world was paying us back, and now we could ... Now we had all sorts of options. Especially when you're really pushing and you're working hard and you're grinding on something, if aren't seeing some tangible value back from it, it's not serving you. It's just taking from you. Again, this was my personal money, one of my personal issues I struggled with. This may or may not be that, but I would say for all of you guys, looking at this as you are creating a business and creating wealth, you need to be pulling things out. What you do with it is up to you. Like you talked about, use it for good, evil. You can give it to charity. You can do whatever. But if the business is just paying for itself, the business will continue to eat up all your money. It will. You leave money it, it's going to continue to eat it up and it'll disappear as fast as it can possibly happen. But if you start pulling it out and it's over here and it's different, man, it becomes more efficient. It becomes more effective. Everything becomes better because of that. Josh: It's funny, because my thing ... I had that same struggle except I wasn't even paying myself. I was literally just, what are my bills for the month, the bare minimum, and then that was it. And then I met my now wife and I started thinking about finances and she wanted stuff. I was like, but also the business. It was kind of like this thing. Katie came along and was like, "Josh ..." The very first ... She didn't give me a lot of tactical things. It was very mindset-focused. I remember one of the biggest tactical things that she gave me out of the very few that she did, she was like, "You need to pay yourself a paycheck, and that paycheck needs to not only be enough to cover all of your expenses, but it needs to in excess." When I started to put away multiple thousand dollars a month into savings or into being able to invest outside of the company, it changed my whole entire perspective. Weirdly enough, magically, the business made more money. It was like, made it every month. It was like, we're entrepreneurs. We figure out problems. Our brain programs for it. And then I started looking at it as myself as an expense. I was like, I'm a line item on the books. Just like I pay a contractor, that's me. All of a sudden, the business made enough money to cover that. But before that, it didn't. It was crazy. Russell: It's interesting because when you start seeing the results ... I've talked about this before. If you look at my Disc profile, there's the D-I-S-C, and then there's your values. My number one value is ROI. If I can't see the ROI of a situation, it makes it harder for me to do it. I was in business for a decade and a half and the ROI I was getting was good. I was like, "I'm helping people and having success, and it's fun to see the success stories." That was the ROI I was getting, and it was good. It kept me going. But man, I look at the last seven years of Click Funnel, it was like the pressure and the stress and all of the type of things. If it wasn't for the ROI, it took this pressure, but here's the ROI of it, I wouldn't have been able to do it. As soon as I started seeing the ROI and the ROI gets bigger and bigger and bigger, all of a sudden it's like, this becomes fun again and you get excited. How do I make the ROI ... For me, it's all about the ROI, the return on investment, any situation is the key. If you don't have the ROI, it gets hard. It's hard to be creative. It's hard to come up with the next idea, the next thing, and the stress and the pressure that comes. What's the return on investment for the effort you're putting into it? But if you see the ROI and you start amplifying it, then it becomes a more fun game. That's where you start growing from a million to a 10 to 100 and beyond because it's like, I see this game. I'm playing it. I'm getting the return on investment. But I never saw that before because the only return on investment I was getting was this one thing, and those things they feel good, but it's hard to keep score with the feel goods. You got to have a scoreboard to see, like, oh, my gosh, I'm winning. Can I win even more? What's it going to look like? And now it gives you options and opportunities… Josh: You mean you're telling me that all the stress and pressure isn't worth $8,000 a month? Russell: You know, I could get ... I was like ... Nowadays with all of the inflation, I can work at McDonald's for eight grand a month, I think. It's crazy. Josh: Man. Russell: But back then- Josh: That's crazy. Russell: That was the ... Anyway, it's crazy. Josh: You can buy Bitcoin and keep up with inflation. Bitcoin, the savior of money. One more. I kind of want to dive ... I wasn't going to make this a money episode, because that's kind of where it's been. When did you make the shift ... One of the big problems with entrepreneurs, talking maybe a little bit more established entrepreneur, is once they're making money ... I was talking with Brad about this and he was talking about in the inner circle. He was in there ... Or in Category Kings, right? The guy's like, "What's the main problem that you solve?" Brad was like, "So interesting. We thought we could answer that question." Then he asked us it and we try to do it, and it was like, dang, what is the main problem that we solve? What he said is one of the things that they came down to was entrepreneurs know that if they have money, it should be doing more. But they don't know what to do with it. This is something that you probably are an amplified example of this, because you're really, really good at making money. You don't even need to think about what your money should be doing because you can just go make more of it. Once again, that because you've unshackled us. It's like, "All right, want a new car? Go build a funnel. You want a palace? Go build a funnel. Want to take a vacation? Launch a funnel. Just do a funnel and you print money." For you, when did that shift happen for you when you actually started paying attention to, I can't just leave my money in an account right now? I can't just buy cars and houses because those don't make me ... You have houses, you've got the cars, you've got everything you've ever wanted and you still have money left over, so when did you make that shift of, my money needs to be doing more, and how did you solve that problem? Russell: Interesting. This is one that's been more recently solved for me, actually, which is fascinating. For a long I was just hoarding it. Just hoarding it, keeping it here. Then Brad and Ryan ... You have to invest it. I'm like, "I don't want to do that." They forced me to do ... I give them a bunch of money every year and they do whatever they do with it, and that's awesome. I'm like, "Okay, cool. Something is happening." But then the money kept adding up. I remember one day I was like, "I'm in a weird spot where I could buy almost anything I want. What do I want? I'm going to go and spend some money." I remember going to eBay and I was like, "I'm going to buy anything I want." I was searching for stuff, and I spent four hours on eBay when all of a sudden I spent three grand. I was like, "That's it. I got everything I wanted." I was like, "Oh, crap, now what do I do with it?" It was interesting, because for me, it was like ... Again, this is something ... It's been a recent development. I can't remember if it was this podcast or the one I talked about it, I was like, I didn't know what to do with this. Yeah, I could invest in real estate, but that wasn't inspiring to me. I have money in crypto, but that's not inspiring. What's the things that's going to inspire me to want to do more? Again, it's ROI for me. What's going to give me the ROI of now I got to create more money so I can do this thing? So I have a lot of things. Again, we give money to charity. All those things are good and they get me excited. But I was like, what would be the thing that, for me, would amplify? When we bought Dan Kennedy's company, it was the first time I felt it. I bought his thing. We reorganized it, cleaned it up, and I was like, "Oh, my gosh, I'm able to take these things that were so precious to me and I can bring them back to the world, and I can monetize them. I can actually make money off of this thing." I got really excited. I told you I started buying old books. I started investing in Napoleon Hill books and Charles Haanel and Orison Swett Marden and Samuel Smiles and all these people, the founding fathers of personal development and business and all these kinds of things. I've literally spent a small fortune ... I've spent a lot of money in the last couple months on these old, old books, because now it's like, I'm not investing in real estate that's over here. I'm investing in these things I don't care about. Now it's like I'm investing in something that I can take and that I can turn this into more money, and I can turn it into help. I can serve my entrepreneurs. I can do more things with it. For me, that's what's been stimulating for me. That was the investment of ... It was like, I can dump it back into things, but it was like something that's meaningful to me. For some people, crypto is meaningful. For some people it's NFT. Finding the thing that's not just like, I'm investing to invest, but what's the thing that you're passionate about it where it becomes more than just ... For me, that's what I'm geeking out on. You know this, next door I'm building a 20,000 square foot library to house all these books, to build an event center, to build all these kind of things because this is what I feel like my life's mission is. I'm curating all these ideas and I'm bringing them back to people in the simple new form to help these ideas and these concepts live on. For me, that's double fulfilling because it'll make me money, but it's also something that can serve the people I've been called to serve as well. Again, buying Kennedy's company, I'm serving these people, but I'm also making money, which gives me the ability to serve more people. It's kind of fun. Josh: What was the shift, though? For a while you didn't do that, right? Russell: For a while I just sat there. I didn't know what it was. Josh: Who or what got you to the point where you're like, "Okay, I've got to go figure this out"? Yes, this is what you ended up doing with it, but I think a lot of people, there's got to be that thing that's like, "This is when I realized I got to figure out ..." Or some people just let it sit their whole life, I guess. You know what I'm saying? Russell: I heard stories about ... I don't know how true ... But like Scottie Pippen or Mike Tyson, he made half a billion dollars and he's broke. I was like, I don't want to be that dude who made a half a billion dollars and is broke right now. I need to figure out ... I always joke with Brad and Ryan when we were writing their webinar page initially, I was like ... On 30 Rock, there's that scene where Liz Lemon is talking to Alec Baldwin and he's like, "I need that thing that rich people do where they turn money into more money." He's like, "Investing?" He's like, "Yeah. I want to do that." For me, it was like, I've got money here. I need to figure out how to turn money into more money, that's not just me doing the whole thing. How do we amplify what we’re doing? How do we have that exponential growth? That was kind of the thing that got me into it. Again, initially it was doing the things that weren't exciting. I'd invested money in real estate and I hated that, so I had Brad and Ryan, I invested money with them. That was cool. It was passive. It wasn't passionate. I was trying to figure out what's the thing that I'm going to be passionate about, where now it becomes part of a game. Now I can see the ROI on this thing. I invested $40,000 this weekend on old books, how do I turn that into $400,000 or four million or 40 million? Can I do that? Now begins ... Now it's fun. Some people, real estate is that game. I got friends who own 100 houses, or 200 houses, and that's the game that they love. I look at Tai Lopez and he's buying these businesses. That's the game that he loves. What's the game you're going to love, the investing game you're going to love? There's a million ways to invest, but when you find one that you love, then it becomes ... Now it becomes a fun part of the game. I think it's understanding first off you need to do it, otherwise you're going to ... You mentioned this ... I can't remember if it was before we started recording, but people who have won Two Comma Club and they got nothing, or Two Comma Club X and they're broke. Entrepreneurs are good at generating money, but there's this other part that you got to learn how to invest it correctly. Otherwise, you're going to pull a Tyson or a Pippen and be broke in a couple of years from now. Yeah, I got 3 Two Comma Club awards on the wall, but I'm trying to figure out how to feed my family this weekend, and that’s now where you want to be… Josh: That's so crazy that's a reality for people. It really, really is. I think that's one of the things that I am very, very thankful to have learned relatively early on, is ... Russell: They're two different skill sets. Making money- Josh: They are. Russell: And keeping money are not the same thing. Josh: Yeah. Russell: They are completely different skill sets. In fact, typically, the people who are good at making money are the worst at managing it. Josh: Keeping it. Russell: It's like yin and yang. Understanding that if you're good at making it, you find people around you, like Brad and Ryan, I was like, "Here's money. Do that thing you do because I don't want to mess it up." Josh: Yeah. Russell: In fact, it's funny, before I invested money with Brad and Ryan, I invested it in two different deals. I was like, "This is the greatest thing in the world." Both of them, literally both of them turned out to Ponzi schemes. I got to write off multiple of millions of dollars last year because I gave money to ideas that were so good that me as the entrepreneur was like, "This is genius. This is the greatest thing in the world." Ponzi scheme. I got sold on the thing. It's funny, one of my friends just sold his business for eight figures and he messages me. He was like, "All right. I want to ask your opinion. Where should I put this money?" I was like, "Dude, do not ask me. If I think it's a good idea, it's going to be a Ponzi scheme. Find someone who, that's their life, is that, like Brad and Ryan. Go give your money to them," or find something like I'm doing now with the books and stuff, where it's like now. This is something that fits into my skill set. I think it was ... What's the old dude who invests all the money? Warren Buffett, that said only invest in things you understand. It's like, I understand how to turn old information into money. I'm investing in information and intellectual property because I can turn that into more money, and so that becomes something I can invest in, because I understand the game. I don't understand- Josh: So interesting. Russell: This, but I do understand this, therefore, I will invest in the thing I understand because I can turn this into more money. Josh: That makes sense. Side note on Warren Buffett, you know 80% of his wealth or something like that came off of nine trades? Russell: Really? Josh: Nine investments that he made, it produced 80% of his wealth or something like that. Isn't that insane? Russell: That is fascinating. Josh: That's why when ... I read the quote from him, it was in the context of this quote. It was like, Warren Buffett is like, everyone thinks they have to make a bunch of good decisions. He was like, "I try to make three good decisions a year." I was like, "Oh, my gosh. What the heck?" And then I found out that 80% of his wealth came from ... It was eight or nine trades or something, or investments, and I was like, "All right. I guess that makes sense, then, if you only need to make ..." Anyway, last question, rapid fire question on money. Is there anything that you could do, if you could go back and change something about what you've done or your handling with money, is there anything that you would change, and if so, what's the biggest thing that would be? Russell: Good question. I think I would've started ... Number one, I would've started pulling money out of my business faster. Number two, I would've had a plan for what I would do with that money. I wish I would've said, "I'm going to pull out ... After three months of thing, pull out all the profit, I'm going to put 25% in real estate, 25% in crypto, 25% in something else, and just have that happening in the background, I'd be a much wealthier man today." It took me a long, long time before I did that. Todd forced me to start putting money into crypto, which was one of the greatest gifts ever for me. Brad and Ryan are now forcing me to put money over here. It's like taking that and putting it in spots where again, it's not going to be 100%. I'm going to fall for two Ponzi schemes a year probably, but if I can get one of them to win and three of them to fail, or whatever that is, that's the big thing. I always thought that I will start pulling money out when blah. When I hit Two Comma Club, when I hit a million. The problem is that win never comes. You got to structure from day number one. When money comes in, boom. Profits come out. This happens here. I pay myself first. From the money I pay myself, 10% is going to go for me to go do stupid things, 25% is going to go into real estate or Bitcoin or stocks or whatever. And dividing that stuff up so it's happening at a small level, because when that happens, I wasted a decade and a half before any kind of investments happening. Can you imagine if I had 15 years of the stuff I was doing, turning into something? I missed out on so much of that, that I wish I would've done. Josh: You just got to make sure that you have a small percentage there, which is dedicated to losing bets and Bitcoin to Josh. If you have that, then we're good. For the rest of your life, you're going to be losing bets, so that's how that's going to work. Guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode with money. I'll let you sign it off, but this was awesome. We get to hear Russell Brunson talk about money, which is something that, you make a ton of it, but you don't really talk about it, which is awesome. Thanks for sharing a little bit more. Russell: Thank you. I apologize I don't have a framework for this yet, but this gets me thinking, man, if I could figure out something for entrepreneurs, this is the next thing to do, so then I'll talk more about it as I figure things out. But it's fascinating. I remember I bought a Dan Kennedy course on wealth creation, and it was fascinating because I'd heard Dan talk about building businesses and all that sort of stuff, but it was the first time he ever talked about wealth. Again, same thing. Fascinating. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I never thought about that side of the coin because most entrepreneurs don't talk about it, or don't think about it. I think it's important for us to think and talk and do more with it because again, 15 years of never investing anything, man, it would've been nice. I'd be in a different spot right now than I am today, for sure. Thank you, Josh, for hanging out and talking about money. Hopefully you guys enjoyed this episode. 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Russell Brunson:

What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. One of the questions I get asked a lot about, and I don't spend a lot of time talking about it, is actually money and mindset around money, and how that works, and things that can help you to make more money, things that hold you back from making money. They have nothing to do with your skill set, it just has everything to do with the conversations, the beliefs, the things inside of your mind. This interview with Josh Forti, it was really fun and hopefully you enjoy it. Hopefully it'll help you if you do have money blocks, to help you get unstuck. If you don't think you have money blocks, you probably do. And this hopefully, interview, will make you very aware of those things, and help you to find those things and knock them out in your life. That said, we'll keep the theme song, and when we come back, listen in on this interview with me and Josh Forti.

What's up everybody? Welcome back The Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm here today again with Josh Forti, and we're having so much fun today. We just recorded one episode and now we're going deep into episode number two, which we're going to be talking about mindset as it relates to things that are very specific to you guys as entrepreneurs. I'll Josh talk more about this as he's going to be queuing up the question, but hope you guys enjoy this episode as well.

Josh Forti:

All right, man. First off, we got to talk about your shirt. I feel like there's got to be a story behind this. Guys, for those of you that are listening on audio, let me just explain real quick. It is a skull and crossbones, but it's not just a skull and crossbones. It's got bunny ears on the skull. It's got little waves off to the side. What does it say on the sleeve?

Russell:

It says, "Psycho bunny."

Josh:

Psycho bunny.

Russell:

This is actually a really cool brand called Psycho Bunny, and I bought a couple of their things. I'm like, "This is a cool brand." And then I was shopping with Bart Miller in Vegas, and they have a Psycho Bunny shop. I went in there-

Josh:

Oh dang!

Russell:

And they had shirts and jackets and suit jackets that have the Psycho Bunny inside. It's just a fun, cool brand, and I really like it. Psycho Bunny.

Josh:

Okay. There's no grand, huge story behind how you got it. You just liked it.

Russell:

I should buy the company because it'd be really cool. Anyway, nope. Nothing.

Josh:

Guys, when you're a funnel hacker and when you decide to take over the world and create empires, you can randomly decide on a podcast that you're just going to ... "I should buy the company." That's not a normal thing that most people get to say, but it's super dope.

Russell:

This could be a fun episode in the future because as we acquired two big companies last year and I'm learning about this and having more fun with it, there are some cool ... For most of us, we look at a company, like, "There's no way I could buy that company," but then like Tai Lopez who just bought RadioShack and he bought Pier 1 Imports and all these companies…

Josh:

Dress Barn. Yeah.

Russell:

Now, I bought a couple companies and I'm like, oh, my gosh, there's actually a really cool strategy where it doesn't technically cost you any money if you do it correctly. We bought Dan Kennedy's company for a steal. We've launched the first thing. Now we made our money back. And now moving forward, everything I do with Dan Kennedy's company is pure, unadulterated profit to the bottom line. And that's exciting because ... All of a sudden it's like, you can actually buy companies when you understand the core principles of what we do. Anyway, that's a topic for another day, but it's kind of a fun one.

Josh:

So much fun stuff. Topic for another day. We'll do many episodes. Now is not the time. We're going to dive into what I think goes really well with our last episode. Last episode we talked about goal setting and setting things up, and that last bit of it was around identity and beliefs and values and rules and things like that. I want to talk about mindset here, and specifically the mindset ... There's a couple core key areas, because what's interesting is a lot of times we think mindset is we have to train our minds to think a certain way, or we have to overcome false beliefs about bad things. Like, "I'll never be successful" or "I'll never be this." But it goes both ways, because often times we can have fear of success. We can have fear that, oh, my gosh, what happens if I actually achieve that goal? There's so many different things around that, that we could dive into, but I want to kick off with this one specifically around mindset around money.

I do want to talk about not just money, failure, doing the impossible, things like that, but I want to start with money because I feel like money is one of these things that we all have some form of weird relationship with it. Very few people grew up in a home where their parents and everybody around them had a healthy relationship with money, because most people ... I would say 90 plus percent of the people that I've met do not have a healthy relationship with money. They don't understand it. They don't understand what it represents, how it works, any of the things with it. For you, I want you to take us back because one of things, and I've kind of told you this at the beginning, a lot of people in the ClickFunnels world, like Russell.

I was talking to Brad Gibb the other day. Shout out to Brad. He's awesome. He's like, "Russell has come and he's taken these handcuffs off of us, to where now we just can print money." It's ridiculous. It's kind of a cheat code. When we talk about it to all of our friends, we go around and we're like, "Yeah, we just kind of make money on the Internet." They're like, "How do you do that?" We're like, "We don't know. We just do what Russell says and it just works."

Russell:

It’s a magic trick!

Josh:

It just shows up. It's amazing. We've kind of unshackled the making of money, if we follow what it is, but keeping money. But our thoughts around money, our beliefs around money, how we perceive and value money, how we think money is going to change us. All of these different other things around money, those things are now new problems that a lot of us are running into, or have not yet applied the things that you've told us to do because of those beliefs. I think both of those are true. I've seen so many people ...

I made not a ton, ton of money, but certainly 10 times more money than I'd ever made in my life when I first got started, and blew it all because of my poor, very unhealthy, almost toxic relationship with money. Take us back, what are the money shifts or the beliefs around money, specifically in mindset, that you had to go through. I'm just going to kind of leave that open ended and see where you take it.

Russell:

The first thing I think that would be useful for everyone is for everyone to actually, honestly sit down and look at their relationship with money and understand it ... It's funny because if you would ask Russell 15 years ago Russell if this was actually a real thing, I'd be like, "No, this is stupid. Just make money. It's easy." But I had a friend who I worked with, man, probably 12, 13 years ago on a project and he was someone who is super charismatic, super dynamic, super talented person. When he was younger, he used his talents and his gifts and he made a whole bunch of money really, really fast. Crazy, crazy money. Money that doesn't make any sense.

When he got that money, he started doing stupid things with it. He got into drugs and alcohol and all the problems that are associated with when you make too much money too fast as a kid, and almost destroyed his life. He almost died. He almost lost his family and his marriage. All these things happened.

He lost all the money, which was probably a blessing. And then he refixed his life. And then he got back to the spot where he's like, "I want to make money again." I watched him for probably 10 years of his life, where he would do all the right things, he would get close to making a bunch of money and then he would literally subconsciously destroy everything he had built, and it kept happening. At first I was so confused by it. I'm like, "You were so close. How do you keep messing this up? I don't understand it." Then he told me a story. He didn't know this subconsciously but we had a conversation one night where he told me a story. I was like, "Oh, my gosh. Subconsciously, you are linking the destruction of your family, your health and all these things to making money, because that's what happened the very first time. Now every time you get close to it, your whole subconscious mind is like, no, and starts making you do stupid things to destroy yourself from actually having success."

I've seen ... Now, it's been a decade of me watching this. And as much as I love this person, I keep seeing him. He's so talented, so many gifts, and keeps not having any success because of this thing that happened in his youth. His is an extreme example, but this is happening to all of us. You think about when you were growing up, what are the things that your parents said about money? What are the things that you heard at church about money? What are the things you heard in different spots? There are so many things that have been ingrained in our head that we don't even know consciously. And also, we start having success in whatever. We start making money or we start getting close to making money, and all these warning signals are popping off in your head, like, don't get money because of this because you'll become a bad person and you're going to fall away from God. You're going to be doing this. You're going to be the bad person.

You look at TV. Myron Golden is the first one that ever pointed this out to me. You look at every movie, every superhero movie, for the most part, the bad guy is the rich billionaire who is this horrible person. This is ingrained in our heads that money is going to make us evil. Those things are real, and even if you don't think that they're affecting you, they probably are.

Josh:

And then you don't consciously believe it. Subconsciously they control you.

Russell:

Yeah, it's affecting you. I've seen this in my own journey. When I first started making money, I thought everyone was going to be excited. I was like, "This is so cool." I was so excited to teach everybody else. I started making money. I start teaching people and try to show my friends and my family and what happened. The response I got was not what I thought it was going to be. It was not like, "This is amazing-"

Josh:

At all.

Russell:

"Let's try it." Instead it was weird, especially for my wife. My wife struggled with it even more so than me because I've had success in parts of my life in the past where ... In wrestling, I was a state champ, I was an all-American. I hit these different things, but there was this weird side of success you aren't expecting where the people around you who you think are going to be celebrating with you, they don't. In fact, I remember my mom when I bought my dream house ... My house is ... You've been to my house.

Josh:

Your house is insane. It's so awesome.

Russell:

It’s like the coolest thing in the world. When I was growing up, I wanted an insane house. I remember I was finally at a spot where I could buy this house. In the reality, I didn't pay it off immediately. I could've just paid cash for it. I didn't. But within two years I think I paid it off, which was a big deal for me. But I remember when I was buying my house, I remember a comment my mom said. She was like, "You don't want to buy a house like this because then you're going to be one of those rich people up on the hill." I was like, "What does that mean, mom?" She was like, "They're the ones that are always looking down at everybody else." I'm like, "What?" All of a sudden I was scared to tell my mom about my success because my mom viewed the rich people as this thing over here. And then other people. It was this weird thing where all of a sudden it makes you want to shrink down, it makes you want to hide because you're like, "I don't want people judging me because of this thing."

For all of you guys, for all of us, there's these things that may happen, where comments are made, when people we love and respect were to all of a sudden to ... The side of success that you think is going to happen doesn't. Especially in money. I think money is a big one because it's such a thing.

Josh:

Yeah. I also think that because of the stories that we're told by everybody else, like you're saying, subconsciously it's ingrained in our society, what money is and how it works, nobody understands it. Taylor Welch ... You know Taylor, right? Taylor Welch?

Russell:

Yep.

Josh:

He's the one ... He and I have become ... I don't want to say good friends, but certainly friends over the past little bit. He was actually the very first person I ever interviewed on my podcast.

Russell:

Very cool.

Josh:

He got me into money. He was like, "Study money. Because once you understand how it works, it'll completely change your perspective of it." I always joke around with my mom. I'm like, "Money's not real. It's all fake." In America specifically, the U.S. dollar is not real. It's all fake and it's all made up. She always pushes back. She's like, "It's not fake because I can guy groceries with it." I'm like, "That right there, that shows that I have a different relationship ..." And side note, I freaking love my mom. My mom and I have an amazing relationship. But my mom and I have a completely different fundamental relationship with money. That was a very interesting learning lesson for me. When you change your relationship with money, when you change how it works, when you understand it differently and when you change your relationship with it, it also becomes not hard to get or keep, because now you're not needy of it. Your relationship changes with it.

I always think about ... Take it back to dating. I'm not even going to say the book because I don't want people to go ... It's not a great book, but I was reading a clip out of this book one time and the guy in it goes, "Money and ..." Let's say, relationship. Money and girls are kind of the same thing. Those are not the words he used, but money and girls are the same way. If you're desperate and needy of it, you'll never have it. But if you don't care, it'll come abundantly. That was a very interesting shift for me as well. Anyway, I didn't mean to interrupt you but that was very interesting.

Russell:

It's key. As I studied Tony Robbins, the biggest thing I learned ... One of the biggest things. I shouldn't say the biggest, but is just becoming aware of things. I think the first step for of any us is being aware of how this is actually affecting you. For a lot of us, at whatever level you're at, the reason you're not at the next level is because there's some belief around it that's keeping you from there. It's interesting, I remember when I had the goal, when I hit a million dollars in a year, I didn't hit it three years in a row. Every year I was within $50,000. Like, $75,000. How am I not hitting this? It was like, I had these weird beliefs around that thing. As soon as I broke it, I was like, this is easy.

Going from million to 10 million was next. Getting to two, three, five, eight million was easy, but then 10 million was this gap where I was stuck. It's beliefs. What's easy? What's hard?

A couple things ... Again, this is one of those topics. I've never taught this before so I don't have the, here's the Russell three step framework. Things have happened in my life that I became aware of this for myself. One of them was, I had a coach ... I've had her a couple times throughout my life. She's awesome. One of my favorite coaches of all time. Her name is Tara Williams. Tara ... It was interesting because I always thought ... Again, especially people who are religious, there's always this belief of is money going to make me evil? You hear these things on the side. I definitely had this subconscious fear around that. If I get too much money, I'm going to forget God. I'm going to forget my family. All these things couple happen. Because they do. They happen to so many people. We see it. I had that fear behind it.

I remember, especially when I bought my house, I was like, I bought this house and it's crazy. Anyway, Tara was at our house, actually, doing a coaching session with my wife and I. It was an interesting thing. But she said a couple things in that meeting that had a big impact on me. One of the things was ... She asked my wife this specifically. "Do you think this is bad that he bought this house?" My wife is like, "Yeah." She has so much guilt associated with it, because she's like ... It was interesting because Tara brought back, "Because you guys have money, talk about things you've done. Last year you gave a million dollars to OUR. Last year you did this. Last year you did this. How many people have you helped? How many entrepreneurs have you empowered? How many jobs have you created?"

We started going through this whole thing, and it was like, all these things you're doing has been creating wealth for you. You have this wealth. You can just give it away and you guys do give a lot away, but is it bad for you now to enjoy some of it, to buy a house? Still she was like, "I don't know. Is it bad or not?" She's like, "Now you have this house, what have you guys done with this house?" I was like, "We have our kids here and we have our family here. We bring people here. We're able to serve people at a different level because we have these things." All of a sudden it was like, oh, my gosh, this isn't a bad thing.

I remember hearing Richard Branson, somebody asked him ... Who was it? It was another one of those moments for me that opened my mind. But someone asked Branson, "Do you feel guilty that you're not down at the soup kitchen helping feed these people?" Branson's response was so powerful. He said, "The people of the soup kitchen who are feeding people, that's amazing. We're so grateful for them. They're giving their time and their effort. It's powerful. I'm not going to go to the soup kitchen and feed people soup, but I can give the soup kitchen $50,000, and that's going to feed 10,000 people. It's different service but it's still service, and this is able to help even more people." I started thinking about that. Man, these tools that we create, like wealth and the things that we have can be so much more impactful if we use it correctly. It's not a bad thing. It's just understanding these are tools that we have. Anyway ...

Josh:

It's interesting you say that and phrase it that way because that was one of the things, actually, Brad Gibb, he's a very good friend of mine as well, and we talk a lot. And he's taught me probably more about money as far as investing how it works and how to use it and things like that, probably more than anybody else. Very, very smart. One of the things that he said is money is not all the same. He's like, "You can have a million dollars over here and a million dollars over here and one of them be used for good and to multiply and to be productive, and one of them be used just to indulge and be gluttonous and to be greedy. Is money good or bad? It's not good, it's not bad. It is. It is a tool for exchange. How you go and use it will determine whether or not it's good or bad for you in your own life."

When he put it that way, I was like, if I have my money and I'm investing and I'm multiplying it and it's creating freedom and then I'm using that to be able to go out and give back, all of a sudden money is now good. It makes me be able to do my job better. But if I'm just going and I make a million dollars and I go to Vegas and I put 100 grand on black, cool. Maybe once in your lifetime. But that is not a good thing anymore. Now it's taking away from your gift. It can either be an amplifier or it can be something that takes away. That was a really, really big shift for me. It was like, how am I using it?

Russell:

It's powerful. Again, it just comes down to there's so many subconscious things that are weird about it. Next thing I want to talk about for entrepreneurs too ... And this is a trap with money that I got caught into for almost 15 years. When I stared my business, I remember I started making some money. I figured out what my wife and I needed to live. I think at the time it was $8,000 a month that was giving us the most amazing lifestyle ever. We set it up where our paycheck was eight grand a month and that's what was coming from the company. And everything else in the company I kept reinvesting back into the company. For a while that's important. That's where we're going to grow, where we're going to expand it.

I look at my business for the next decade at least, maybe longer, I never pulled anything else out. It only kept getting reinvested, reinvested. And eventually ... Some of you guys heard my story. 10, 12 years ago we had this big crash where everything got shut down and we lost everything. And the thing that sucked is when it all was said and done, I had nothing. We never pulled money out. We never invested. We never did anything. It was all being reinvested back into the business. I got my guarantee, we had our certainty, eight grand a month coming in consistently every single time, but then nothing happened.

I remember when we launched after that happened and everything crashed and we were rebuilding back up, during that time we had no money so everything is being reinvested back into the business because we had no business at that point. We started figuring this out. That's where I met Todd. We launched Click Funnels. When we launched Click Funnels, I instantly went back to my same pattern. Like, cool, all the money goes back into Click Funnels. That's how we're going to do this thing.

Todd was like, "Dude, just so you understand, I did not build this thing to just have a good paycheck and let this thing keep growing. This is not worth it for me unless we pull money out." I remember I was like ... I had so much fear and I was like, "No. We can't do this." This is one of Todd and I's first and probably only real things where he was just like, "It's not worth it to me unless this is producing money that's being put over here for my family, for my church, for my faith, all the things I want to be doing."

Again, we fought back and forth for a couple of months. The very first time we had some profit. I was like, "What do I do with this profit? Put it back in the business." Todd was like, "No, we need to pull it out of the business," and we fought back and forth. Finally, we figured out a way to make us both happy where we figured ... At the time, we need three months of money in reserve. Worst case scenario, that's there. But then after that's over, all of the money, 100% of the money needs to be pulled out and given to the owners. Otherwise we're going to be like you were, Russell, 15 years in and you've got nothing to show for it. All the stress, all the effort, all the energy, and nothing to show for it. That's how we set things up.

I remember it was so scary for me. In fact, when we started pulling out and distributing out the profits every single month, I kept mine in there for two years. I didn't touch a penny of it because I'm like ... It's in my separate account. It's over there.

What was crazy, though, is that all of a sudden this thing that I was doing started actually producing wealth for me, which took the stress down. I started seeing this thing happening, and all of a sudden it started giving me options where I had no options ahead of time.

I think for a lot of entrepreneurs it's like, we have this thing ... It's funny because I see even big people like Gary Vee talk about this, like, "I don't care about money. I dump all my money back in. I'm just building this brand." I'm like, I thought that was the thing for a while too, but it's not. If the business is not producing wealth for the owners, what's the point of it? Eventually you got a job and that's it. It needs to be doing something or else it's not serving you, and therefore, it's not a gift.

Josh:

Was that the thing, though, helping you overcome that? Was it just doing it? Is that what helped you overcome it?

Russell:

Yeah, Todd forced me. If it wasn't for Todd, I would still be pulling out eight grand a month and that would be where I would be living. 100%. Todd forced me to do it and it stressed me out. I was so scared. For two years I didn't touch the money and all of a sudden it was like, oh, my gosh, there's this money here. Now I have the ability to ... This thing I had created, this value I was trying to put into the world was paying us back, and now we could ... Now we had all sorts of options.

Especially when you're really pushing and you're working hard and you're grinding on something, if aren't seeing some tangible value back from it, it's not serving you. It's just taking from you. Again, this was my personal money, one of my personal issues I struggled with. This may or may not be that, but I would say for all of you guys, looking at this as you are creating a business and creating wealth, you need to be pulling things out. What you do with it is up to you. Like you talked about, use it for good, evil. You can give it to charity. You can do whatever. But if the business is just paying for itself, the business will continue to eat up all your money. It will. You leave money it, it's going to continue to eat it up and it'll disappear as fast as it can possibly happen. But if you start pulling it out and it's over here and it's different, man, it becomes more efficient. It becomes more effective. Everything becomes better because of that.

Josh:

It's funny, because my thing ... I had that same struggle except I wasn't even paying myself. I was literally just, what are my bills for the month, the bare minimum, and then that was it. And then I met my now wife and I started thinking about finances and she wanted stuff. I was like, but also the business. It was kind of like this thing. Katie came along and was like, "Josh ..." The very first ... She didn't give me a lot of tactical things. It was very mindset-focused. I remember one of the biggest tactical things that she gave me out of the very few that she did, she was like, "You need to pay yourself a paycheck, and that paycheck needs to not only be enough to cover all of your expenses, but it needs to in excess."

When I started to put away multiple thousand dollars a month into savings or into being able to invest outside of the company, it changed my whole entire perspective. Weirdly enough, magically, the business made more money. It was like, made it every month. It was like, we're entrepreneurs. We figure out problems. Our brain programs for it. And then I started looking at it as myself as an expense. I was like, I'm a line item on the books. Just like I pay a contractor, that's me. All of a sudden, the business made enough money to cover that. But before that, it didn't. It was crazy.

Russell:

It's interesting because when you start seeing the results ... I've talked about this before. If you look at my Disc profile, there's the D-I-S-C, and then there's your values. My number one value is ROI. If I can't see the ROI of a situation, it makes it harder for me to do it. I was in business for a decade and a half and the ROI I was getting was good. I was like, "I'm helping people and having success, and it's fun to see the success stories." That was the ROI I was getting, and it was good. It kept me going. But man, I look at the last seven years of Click Funnel, it was like the pressure and the stress and all of the type of things. If it wasn't for the ROI, it took this pressure, but here's the ROI of it, I wouldn't have been able to do it. As soon as I started seeing the ROI and the ROI gets bigger and bigger and bigger, all of a sudden it's like, this becomes fun again and you get excited. How do I make the ROI ...

For me, it's all about the ROI, the return on investment, any situation is the key. If you don't have the ROI, it gets hard. It's hard to be creative. It's hard to come up with the next idea, the next thing, and the stress and the pressure that comes. What's the return on investment for the effort you're putting into it? But if you see the ROI and you start amplifying it, then it becomes a more fun game. That's where you start growing from a million to a 10 to 100 and beyond because it's like, I see this game. I'm playing it. I'm getting the return on investment. But I never saw that before because the only return on investment I was getting was this one thing, and those things they feel good, but it's hard to keep score with the feel goods. You got to have a scoreboard to see, like, oh, my gosh, I'm winning. Can I win even more? What's it going to look like? And now it gives you options and opportunities…

Josh:

You mean you're telling me that all the stress and pressure isn't worth $8,000 a month?

Russell:

You know, I could get ... I was like ... Nowadays with all of the inflation, I can work at McDonald's for eight grand a month, I think. It's crazy.

Josh:

Man.

Russell:

But back then-

Josh:

That's crazy.

Russell:

That was the ... Anyway, it's crazy.

Josh:

You can buy Bitcoin and keep up with inflation. Bitcoin, the savior of money.

One more. I kind of want to dive ... I wasn't going to make this a money episode, because that's kind of where it's been. When did you make the shift ... One of the big problems with entrepreneurs, talking maybe a little bit more established entrepreneur, is once they're making money ... I was talking with Brad about this and he was talking about in the inner circle. He was in there ... Or in Category Kings, right? The guy's like, "What's the main problem that you solve?" Brad was like, "So interesting. We thought we could answer that question." Then he asked us it and we try to do it, and it was like, dang, what is the main problem that we solve? What he said is one of the things that they came down to was entrepreneurs know that if they have money, it should be doing more. But they don't know what to do with it.

This is something that you probably are an amplified example of this, because you're really, really good at making money. You don't even need to think about what your money should be doing because you can just go make more of it. Once again, that because you've unshackled us. It's like, "All right, want a new car? Go build a funnel. You want a palace? Go build a funnel. Want to take a vacation? Launch a funnel. Just do a funnel and you print money." For you, when did that shift happen for you when you actually started paying attention to, I can't just leave my money in an account right now? I can't just buy cars and houses because those don't make me ... You have houses, you've got the cars, you've got everything you've ever wanted and you still have money left over, so when did you make that shift of, my money needs to be doing more, and how did you solve that problem?

Russell:

Interesting. This is one that's been more recently solved for me, actually, which is fascinating. For a long I was just hoarding it. Just hoarding it, keeping it here. Then Brad and Ryan ... You have to invest it. I'm like, "I don't want to do that." They forced me to do ... I give them a bunch of money every year and they do whatever they do with it, and that's awesome. I'm like, "Okay, cool. Something is happening." But then the money kept adding up.

I remember one day I was like, "I'm in a weird spot where I could buy almost anything I want. What do I want? I'm going to go and spend some money." I remember going to eBay and I was like, "I'm going to buy anything I want." I was searching for stuff, and I spent four hours on eBay when all of a sudden I spent three grand. I was like, "That's it. I got everything I wanted." I was like, "Oh, crap, now what do I do with it?" It was interesting, because for me, it was like ... Again, this is something ... It's been a recent development. I can't remember if it was this podcast or the one I talked about it, I was like, I didn't know what to do with this. Yeah, I could invest in real estate, but that wasn't inspiring to me. I have money in crypto, but that's not inspiring. What's the things that's going to inspire me to want to do more? Again, it's ROI for me. What's going to give me the ROI of now I got to create more money so I can do this thing?

So I have a lot of things. Again, we give money to charity. All those things are good and they get me excited. But I was like, what would be the thing that, for me, would amplify? When we bought Dan Kennedy's company, it was the first time I felt it. I bought his thing. We reorganized it, cleaned it up, and I was like, "Oh, my gosh, I'm able to take these things that were so precious to me and I can bring them back to the world, and I can monetize them. I can actually make money off of this thing." I got really excited.

I told you I started buying old books. I started investing in Napoleon Hill books and Charles Haanel and Orison Swett Marden and Samuel Smiles and all these people, the founding fathers of personal development and business and all these kinds of things. I've literally spent a small fortune ... I've spent a lot of money in the last couple months on these old, old books, because now it's like, I'm not investing in real estate that's over here. I'm investing in these things I don't care about. Now it's like I'm investing in something that I can take and that I can turn this into more money, and I can turn it into help. I can serve my entrepreneurs. I can do more things with it.

For me, that's what's been stimulating for me. That was the investment of ... It was like, I can dump it back into things, but it was like something that's meaningful to me. For some people, crypto is meaningful. For some people it's NFT. Finding the thing that's not just like, I'm investing to invest, but what's the thing that you're passionate about it where it becomes more than just ... For me, that's what I'm geeking out on. You know this, next door I'm building a 20,000 square foot library to house all these books, to build an event center, to build all these kind of things because this is what I feel like my life's mission is. I'm curating all these ideas and I'm bringing them back to people in the simple new form to help these ideas and these concepts live on. For me, that's double fulfilling because it'll make me money, but it's also something that can serve the people I've been called to serve as well. Again, buying Kennedy's company, I'm serving these people, but I'm also making money, which gives me the ability to serve more people. It's kind of fun.

Josh:

What was the shift, though? For a while you didn't do that, right?

Russell:

For a while I just sat there. I didn't know what it was.

Josh:

Who or what got you to the point where you're like, "Okay, I've got to go figure this out"? Yes, this is what you ended up doing with it, but I think a lot of people, there's got to be that thing that's like, "This is when I realized I got to figure out ..." Or some people just let it sit their whole life, I guess. You know what I'm saying?

Russell:

I heard stories about ... I don't know how true ... But like Scottie Pippen or Mike Tyson, he made half a billion dollars and he's broke. I was like, I don't want to be that dude who made a half a billion dollars and is broke right now. I need to figure out ... I always joke with Brad and Ryan when we were writing their webinar page initially, I was like ... On 30 Rock, there's that scene where Liz Lemon is talking to Alec Baldwin and he's like, "I need that thing that rich people do where they turn money into more money." He's like, "Investing?" He's like, "Yeah. I want to do that." For me, it was like, I've got money here. I need to figure out how to turn money into more money, that's not just me doing the whole thing. How do we amplify what we’re doing? How do we have that exponential growth? That was kind of the thing that got me into it.

Again, initially it was doing the things that weren't exciting. I'd invested money in real estate and I hated that, so I had Brad and Ryan, I invested money with them. That was cool. It was passive. It wasn't passionate. I was trying to figure out what's the thing that I'm going to be passionate about, where now it becomes part of a game. Now I can see the ROI on this thing. I invested $40,000 this weekend on old books, how do I turn that into $400,000 or four million or 40 million? Can I do that? Now begins ... Now it's fun. Some people, real estate is that game. I got friends who own 100 houses, or 200 houses, and that's the game that they love.

I look at Tai Lopez and he's buying these businesses. That's the game that he loves. What's the game you're going to love, the investing game you're going to love? There's a million ways to invest, but when you find one that you love, then it becomes ... Now it becomes a fun part of the game. I think it's understanding first off you need to do it, otherwise you're going to ... You mentioned this ... I can't remember if it was before we started recording, but people who have won Two Comma Club and they got nothing, or Two Comma Club X and they're broke. Entrepreneurs are good at generating money, but there's this other part that you got to learn how to invest it correctly. Otherwise, you're going to pull a Tyson or a Pippen and be broke in a couple of years from now.

Yeah, I got 3 Two Comma Club awards on the wall, but I'm trying to figure out how to feed my family this weekend, and that’s now where you want to be…

Josh:

That's so crazy that's a reality for people. It really, really is. I think that's one of the things that I am very, very thankful to have learned relatively early on, is ...

Russell:

They're two different skill sets. Making money-

Josh:

They are.

Russell:

And keeping money are not the same thing.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

They are completely different skill sets. In fact, typically, the people who are good at making money are the worst at managing it.

Josh:

Keeping it.

Russell:

It's like yin and yang. Understanding that if you're good at making it, you find people around you, like Brad and Ryan, I was like, "Here's money. Do that thing you do because I don't want to mess it up."

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

In fact, it's funny, before I invested money with Brad and Ryan, I invested it in two different deals. I was like, "This is the greatest thing in the world." Both of them, literally both of them turned out to Ponzi schemes. I got to write off multiple of millions of dollars last year because I gave money to ideas that were so good that me as the entrepreneur was like, "This is genius. This is the greatest thing in the world." Ponzi scheme. I got sold on the thing. It's funny, one of my friends just sold his business for eight figures and he messages me. He was like, "All right. I want to ask your opinion. Where should I put this money?" I was like, "Dude, do not ask me. If I think it's a good idea, it's going to be a Ponzi scheme. Find someone who, that's their life, is that, like Brad and Ryan. Go give your money to them," or find something like I'm doing now with the books and stuff, where it's like now. This is something that fits into my skill set.

I think it was ... What's the old dude who invests all the money? Warren Buffett, that said only invest in things you understand. It's like, I understand how to turn old information into money. I'm investing in information and intellectual property because I can turn that into more money, and so that becomes something I can invest in, because I understand the game. I don't understand-

Josh:

So interesting.

Russell:

This, but I do understand this, therefore, I will invest in the thing I understand because I can turn this into more money.

Josh:

That makes sense. Side note on Warren Buffett, you know 80% of his wealth or something like that came off of nine trades?

Russell:

Really?

Josh:

Nine investments that he made, it produced 80% of his wealth or something like that. Isn't that insane?

Russell:

That is fascinating.

Josh:

That's why when ... I read the quote from him, it was in the context of this quote. It was like, Warren Buffett is like, everyone thinks they have to make a bunch of good decisions. He was like, "I try to make three good decisions a year." I was like, "Oh, my gosh. What the heck?" And then I found out that 80% of his wealth came from ... It was eight or nine trades or something, or investments, and I was like, "All right. I guess that makes sense, then, if you only need to make ..." Anyway, last question, rapid fire question on money. Is there anything that you could do, if you could go back and change something about what you've done or your handling with money, is there anything that you would change, and if so, what's the biggest thing that would be?

Russell:

Good question. I think I would've started ... Number one, I would've started pulling money out of my business faster. Number two, I would've had a plan for what I would do with that money. I wish I would've said, "I'm going to pull out ... After three months of thing, pull out all the profit, I'm going to put 25% in real estate, 25% in crypto, 25% in something else, and just have that happening in the background, I'd be a much wealthier man today." It took me a long, long time before I did that. Todd forced me to start putting money into crypto, which was one of the greatest gifts ever for me. Brad and Ryan are now forcing me to put money over here. It's like taking that and putting it in spots where again, it's not going to be 100%. I'm going to fall for two Ponzi schemes a year probably, but if I can get one of them to win and three of them to fail, or whatever that is, that's the big thing.

I always thought that I will start pulling money out when blah. When I hit Two Comma Club, when I hit a million. The problem is that win never comes. You got to structure from day number one. When money comes in, boom. Profits come out. This happens here. I pay myself first. From the money I pay myself, 10% is going to go for me to go do stupid things, 25% is going to go into real estate or Bitcoin or stocks or whatever. And dividing that stuff up so it's happening at a small level, because when that happens, I wasted a decade and a half before any kind of investments happening. Can you imagine if I had 15 years of the stuff I was doing, turning into something? I missed out on so much of that, that I wish I would've done.

Josh:

You just got to make sure that you have a small percentage there, which is dedicated to losing bets and Bitcoin to Josh. If you have that, then we're good. For the rest of your life, you're going to be losing bets, so that's how that's going to work. Guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode with money. I'll let you sign it off, but this was awesome. We get to hear Russell Brunson talk about money, which is something that, you make a ton of it, but you don't really talk about it, which is awesome. Thanks for sharing a little bit more.

Russell:

Thank you. I apologize I don't have a framework for this yet, but this gets me thinking, man, if I could figure out something for entrepreneurs, this is the next thing to do, so then I'll talk more about it as I figure things out. But it's fascinating. I remember I bought a Dan Kennedy course on wealth creation, and it was fascinating because I'd heard Dan talk about building businesses and all that sort of stuff, but it was the first time he ever talked about wealth. Again, same thing. Fascinating. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I never thought about that side of the coin because most entrepreneurs don't talk about it, or don't think about it. I think it's important for us to think and talk and do more with it because again, 15 years of never investing anything, man, it would've been nice. I'd be in a different spot right now than I am today, for sure. Thank you, Josh, for hanging out and talking about money.

Hopefully you guys enjoyed this episode. If you did, let us know if you want more about money and wealth and these kind of things. Let us know and we'll go deeper on topics. Just take a screen shot of this on your phone, post it, and tag me and write your #1 question you want to hear, and maybe we'll talk about it on the next podcast. Thanks again. Thank you, Josh, and I will see you guys soon.

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]]> 2434 no BECOMING The Person Who Can Achieve Your Goals... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/becoming-the-person-who-can-achieve-your-goals Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sat, 01 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000 BECOMING The Person Who Can Achieve Your Goals... full 480 Russell Brunson | YAP Media It’s new years, and I know you have a lot of goals. Listen to this episode to find out how to become the person you need to be to actually achieve what you want! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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]]> 2349 no How To Get Your First Client As A Funnel Builder https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-get-your-first-client-as-a-funnel-builder Russell went live today to answer a question from the community. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, it's Russell Brunson welcoming you back to the Marketing Seekers podcast! Today's topic is a popular one – how to land your first client as a funnel builder.  Building funnels is crucial in today's market, honing skills like copywriting, design, and strategy. The key? Start by offering your services to someone else. Find your dream client and offer to build their funnel for free. I did this with Drew Canole, helping him launch his Organifi funnel. His success became my case study, attracting more clients. Here's the plan: identify your dream client, offer to build their funnel for free, deliver stellar results, and use that as leverage to attract paying clients. It's about showcasing your ability to deliver results. This strategy applies not only to funnel building but to any venture – courses, products, you name it. So, focus on creating a compelling case study, and watch your business grow. Keep those questions coming, and I'll keep answering them on the podcast. Thanks for tuning in! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:00:00 -0000 How To Get Your First Client As A Funnel Builder full 479 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell went live today to answer a question from the community. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers... Russell went live today to answer a question from the community. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, it's Russell Brunson welcoming you back to the Marketing Seekers podcast! Today's topic is a popular one – how to land your first client as a funnel builder.  Building funnels is crucial in today's market, honing skills like copywriting, design, and strategy. The key? Start by offering your services to someone else. Find your dream client and offer to build their funnel for free. I did this with Drew Canole, helping him launch his Organifi funnel. His success became my case study, attracting more clients. Here's the plan: identify your dream client, offer to build their funnel for free, deliver stellar results, and use that as leverage to attract paying clients. It's about showcasing your ability to deliver results. This strategy applies not only to funnel building but to any venture – courses, products, you name it. So, focus on creating a compelling case study, and watch your business grow. Keep those questions coming, and I'll keep answering them on the podcast. Thanks for tuning in! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell went live today to answer a question from the community.

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---Transcript---

Hey everyone, it's Russell Brunson welcoming you back to the Marketing Seekers podcast! Today's topic is a popular one – how to land your first client as a funnel builder. 


Building funnels is crucial in today's market, honing skills like copywriting, design, and strategy. The key? Start by offering your services to someone else. Find your dream client and offer to build their funnel for free. I did this with Drew Canole, helping him launch his Organifi funnel. His success became my case study, attracting more clients.


Here's the plan: identify your dream client, offer to build their funnel for free, deliver stellar results, and use that as leverage to attract paying clients. It's about showcasing your ability to deliver results. This strategy applies not only to funnel building but to any venture – courses, products, you name it.


So, focus on creating a compelling case study, and watch your business grow. Keep those questions coming, and I'll keep answering them on the podcast. Thanks for tuning in!

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]]> 467 no RANT: You Attract Who You Are, Not Who You Want https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/rant-you-attract-who-you-are-not-who-you-want In a rare Russell rant, find out what made him upset today, and how you can protect yourself from annoying customers. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, it's Russell Brunson here, and today I've got a bit of a rant to share on the Marketing Secrets podcast. Now, I'm usually a positive guy, but today, I'm feeling slightly annoyed. Let me tell you why. I pour my heart and soul into serving people. I work tirelessly, create valuable offers, and invest millions to simplify and change lives. Yet, there's a small but vocal group of people who seem to despise success. They put up barriers and complain, hindering their own progress. Let me give you some context. We're in the midst of launching Dan Kennedy's newsletter, and while I know it'll yield long-term ROI, the upfront investment is staggering. I had to acquire Dan's company, negotiate, write content, hire teams – the costs are astronomical. And yet, we're offering $20,000 worth of bonuses for just $97 a month after a free trial. It frustrates me to see some people's attitudes. They want the freebies but balk at a slight inconvenience, like higher shipping fees. Instead of quietly canceling, they make a scene on Facebook, airing their grievances. It's mind-boggling. But here's the thing: You attract who you are, not who you want. I've noticed this pattern for years. Within minutes of meeting someone, I can tell if they'll be successful based on their mindset and attitude. It's uncanny. So, if you're the kind of person who complains, refunds, and blames others, guess what? That's the kind of customers you'll attract. But if you take personal responsibility, seek value, and show gratitude, you'll draw in like-minded individuals. I've refunded a product only once in over 20 years, and even then, the person gave me the refund without making a fuss. Why? Because I take responsibility for my choices. I dig for value and don't expect it to be handed to me on a silver platter. So, my message to you is simple: Become the kind of customer you want to be. Take ownership, seek value, and show gratitude. That's how you attract success. Alright, I've got to run to my daughter's Christmas concert. Take care, and I'll catch you later. Bye, everyone! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 Dec 2021 09:00:00 -0000 RANT: You Attract Who You Are, Not Who You Want full 478 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In a rare Russell rant, find out what made him upset today, and how you can protect yourself from annoying customers. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? Today, I... In a rare Russell rant, find out what made him upset today, and how you can protect yourself from annoying customers. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, it's Russell Brunson here, and today I've got a bit of a rant to share on the Marketing Secrets podcast. Now, I'm usually a positive guy, but today, I'm feeling slightly annoyed. Let me tell you why. I pour my heart and soul into serving people. I work tirelessly, create valuable offers, and invest millions to simplify and change lives. Yet, there's a small but vocal group of people who seem to despise success. They put up barriers and complain, hindering their own progress. Let me give you some context. We're in the midst of launching Dan Kennedy's newsletter, and while I know it'll yield long-term ROI, the upfront investment is staggering. I had to acquire Dan's company, negotiate, write content, hire teams – the costs are astronomical. And yet, we're offering $20,000 worth of bonuses for just $97 a month after a free trial. It frustrates me to see some people's attitudes. They want the freebies but balk at a slight inconvenience, like higher shipping fees. Instead of quietly canceling, they make a scene on Facebook, airing their grievances. It's mind-boggling. But here's the thing: You attract who you are, not who you want. I've noticed this pattern for years. Within minutes of meeting someone, I can tell if they'll be successful based on their mindset and attitude. It's uncanny. So, if you're the kind of person who complains, refunds, and blames others, guess what? That's the kind of customers you'll attract. But if you take personal responsibility, seek value, and show gratitude, you'll draw in like-minded individuals. I've refunded a product only once in over 20 years, and even then, the person gave me the refund without making a fuss. Why? Because I take responsibility for my choices. I dig for value and don't expect it to be handed to me on a silver platter. So, my message to you is simple: Become the kind of customer you want to be. Take ownership, seek value, and show gratitude. That's how you attract success. Alright, I've got to run to my daughter's Christmas concert. Take care, and I'll catch you later. Bye, everyone! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In a rare Russell rant, find out what made him upset today, and how you can protect yourself from annoying customers.

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---Transcript---

Hey everyone, it's Russell Brunson here, and today I've got a bit of a rant to share on the Marketing Secrets podcast. Now, I'm usually a positive guy, but today, I'm feeling slightly annoyed. Let me tell you why.


I pour my heart and soul into serving people. I work tirelessly, create valuable offers, and invest millions to simplify and change lives. Yet, there's a small but vocal group of people who seem to despise success. They put up barriers and complain, hindering their own progress.


Let me give you some context. We're in the midst of launching Dan Kennedy's newsletter, and while I know it'll yield long-term ROI, the upfront investment is staggering. I had to acquire Dan's company, negotiate, write content, hire teams – the costs are astronomical. And yet, we're offering $20,000 worth of bonuses for just $97 a month after a free trial.


It frustrates me to see some people's attitudes. They want the freebies but balk at a slight inconvenience, like higher shipping fees. Instead of quietly canceling, they make a scene on Facebook, airing their grievances. It's mind-boggling.


But here's the thing: You attract who you are, not who you want. I've noticed this pattern for years. Within minutes of meeting someone, I can tell if they'll be successful based on their mindset and attitude. It's uncanny.


So, if you're the kind of person who complains, refunds, and blames others, guess what? That's the kind of customers you'll attract. But if you take personal responsibility, seek value, and show gratitude, you'll draw in like-minded individuals.


I've refunded a product only once in over 20 years, and even then, the person gave me the refund without making a fuss. Why? Because I take responsibility for my choices. I dig for value and don't expect it to be handed to me on a silver platter.


So, my message to you is simple: Become the kind of customer you want to be. Take ownership, seek value, and show gratitude. That's how you attract success. Alright, I've got to run to my daughter's Christmas concert. Take care, and I'll catch you later. Bye, everyone!

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]]> 884 no Whatever Happened To...? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/whatever-happened-to Ever witness someone succeed big time at something and then they can't repeat that success? Why is that? Russell examines the ingredients of success and why some people have staying power and others fizzle out. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- It sounds like you're exploring the concept of longevity and sustained success in both the world of UFC and business. You're noting how some individuals or businesses can achieve momentary success, yet struggle to maintain it over time, while others are able to sustain success and even continue growing. You're drawing parallels between UFC champions who have defended their titles multiple times and businesses that have launched successful offers repeatedly. One key insight you've highlighted is the importance of building a strong relationship and community with your audience. You've observed that some businesses focus solely on monetizing their list without nurturing the relationship, which can lead to audience disengagement and eventual decline. In contrast, you emphasize the significance of continually adding value and stacking offers that align with your core message and mission. Your message underscores the importance of consistency, focus, and delivering on the promises made to your audience. By staying true to your core message and continually providing value, you can build trust, loyalty, and long-term success. This aligns with principles outlined in your book "Expert Secrets," particularly the concept of identifying and leading with a new opportunity and then stacking additional opportunities to deepen engagement and retention. Overall, you're advocating for a strategic approach to business that prioritizes relationship-building, value creation, and alignment with your core message to achieve sustained success in the long term. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Dec 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Whatever Happened To...? full 477 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Ever witness someone succeed big time at something and then they can't repeat that success? Why is that? Russell examines the ingredients of success and why some people have staying power and others fizzle out. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text... Ever witness someone succeed big time at something and then they can't repeat that success? Why is that? Russell examines the ingredients of success and why some people have staying power and others fizzle out. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- It sounds like you're exploring the concept of longevity and sustained success in both the world of UFC and business. You're noting how some individuals or businesses can achieve momentary success, yet struggle to maintain it over time, while others are able to sustain success and even continue growing. You're drawing parallels between UFC champions who have defended their titles multiple times and businesses that have launched successful offers repeatedly. One key insight you've highlighted is the importance of building a strong relationship and community with your audience. You've observed that some businesses focus solely on monetizing their list without nurturing the relationship, which can lead to audience disengagement and eventual decline. In contrast, you emphasize the significance of continually adding value and stacking offers that align with your core message and mission. Your message underscores the importance of consistency, focus, and delivering on the promises made to your audience. By staying true to your core message and continually providing value, you can build trust, loyalty, and long-term success. This aligns with principles outlined in your book "Expert Secrets," particularly the concept of identifying and leading with a new opportunity and then stacking additional opportunities to deepen engagement and retention. Overall, you're advocating for a strategic approach to business that prioritizes relationship-building, value creation, and alignment with your core message to achieve sustained success in the long term. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Ever witness someone succeed big time at something and then they can't repeat that success? Why is that? Russell examines the ingredients of success and why some people have staying power and others fizzle out.

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---Transcript---

It sounds like you're exploring the concept of longevity and sustained success in both the world of UFC and business. You're noting how some individuals or businesses can achieve momentary success, yet struggle to maintain it over time, while others are able to sustain success and even continue growing. You're drawing parallels between UFC champions who have defended their titles multiple times and businesses that have launched successful offers repeatedly.


One key insight you've highlighted is the importance of building a strong relationship and community with your audience. You've observed that some businesses focus solely on monetizing their list without nurturing the relationship, which can lead to audience disengagement and eventual decline. In contrast, you emphasize the significance of continually adding value and stacking offers that align with your core message and mission.


Your message underscores the importance of consistency, focus, and delivering on the promises made to your audience. By staying true to your core message and continually providing value, you can build trust, loyalty, and long-term success. This aligns with principles outlined in your book "Expert Secrets," particularly the concept of identifying and leading with a new opportunity and then stacking additional opportunities to deepen engagement and retention.


Overall, you're advocating for a strategic approach to business that prioritizes relationship-building, value creation, and alignment with your core message to achieve sustained success in the long term.

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]]> 904 no Biohacks, Energy, and Weirdness with Josh Forti, Part 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/biohacks-energy-and-weirdness-with-josh-forti-part-3 Russell and Josh reveal the 2 biggest biohack, supplements, diets, brain food, focus & marketing. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- In a recent episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell Brunson and Josh Forti discussed the significance of biohacking, diet, energy, and supplements in enhancing brain function and overall health for entrepreneurs. Russell emphasized the need to optimize health to achieve greater productivity and success in business. Russell shared his personal journey from being a wrestler to becoming health-conscious after gaining significant weight post-wrestling. He initially hired a trainer and changed his diet, losing a substantial amount of body fat. This transformation highlighted the importance of health in improving productivity, as Russell realized that better health allowed him to accomplish more each day. One key topic was the timing of food intake. Russell noted that consuming carbohydrates can cause brain fog and fatigue. Therefore, he avoids carbs in the morning and afternoon, focusing on high fats and proteins instead. Carbs are reserved for the evening when they aid in falling asleep. The discussion also covered the use of nootropics and other supplements. While Russell appreciates certain nootropics like Alpha BRAIN, he is cautious about more extreme supplements and substances due to potential risks. He highlighted the importance of a balanced approach to supplementation, ensuring that any supplements taken are based on individual needs rather than a one-size-fits-all approach. Gut health emerged as a crucial factor. Russell mentioned that gut health directly impacts brain function. He shared his regimen of digestive enzymes, fermented foods like sauerkraut, and kombucha to improve digestion and nutrient absorption. He also recommended specific products like Gaines in Bulk digestive enzymes and GTs Alive mushroom root beer, which contains reishi, chaga, and turkey tail mushrooms for gut health. The conversation also touched on the role of sleep and sunlight as fundamental biohacks. Russell stressed that sleep is the most effective performance enhancer and that exposure to natural sunlight is vital for overall health. Josh Forti added his perspective on health and fitness, mentioning his experience with customized health analysis through blood tests and other assessments. This personalized approach helped him understand his specific health needs and tailor his diet and supplements accordingly. The episode concluded with a discussion about the balance between professional success and personal well-being. Russell and Josh emphasized that focusing on health is not just about physical appearance but about ensuring long-term mental and physical performance, which ultimately contributes to greater success in business and life. Overall, the podcast highlighted the interconnectedness of health, productivity, and entrepreneurial success. By optimizing diet, supplements, and lifestyle choices, entrepreneurs can enhance their mental clarity, energy levels, and overall performance, leading to more effective business practices and a better quality of life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Biohacks, Energy, and Weirdness with Josh Forti, Part 3 full 476 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell and Josh reveal the 2 biggest biohack, supplements, diets, brain food, focus & marketing. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody? This is... Russell and Josh reveal the 2 biggest biohack, supplements, diets, brain food, focus & marketing. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- In a recent episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell Brunson and Josh Forti discussed the significance of biohacking, diet, energy, and supplements in enhancing brain function and overall health for entrepreneurs. Russell emphasized the need to optimize health to achieve greater productivity and success in business. Russell shared his personal journey from being a wrestler to becoming health-conscious after gaining significant weight post-wrestling. He initially hired a trainer and changed his diet, losing a substantial amount of body fat. This transformation highlighted the importance of health in improving productivity, as Russell realized that better health allowed him to accomplish more each day. One key topic was the timing of food intake. Russell noted that consuming carbohydrates can cause brain fog and fatigue. Therefore, he avoids carbs in the morning and afternoon, focusing on high fats and proteins instead. Carbs are reserved for the evening when they aid in falling asleep. The discussion also covered the use of nootropics and other supplements. While Russell appreciates certain nootropics like Alpha BRAIN, he is cautious about more extreme supplements and substances due to potential risks. He highlighted the importance of a balanced approach to supplementation, ensuring that any supplements taken are based on individual needs rather than a one-size-fits-all approach. Gut health emerged as a crucial factor. Russell mentioned that gut health directly impacts brain function. He shared his regimen of digestive enzymes, fermented foods like sauerkraut, and kombucha to improve digestion and nutrient absorption. He also recommended specific products like Gaines in Bulk digestive enzymes and GTs Alive mushroom root beer, which contains reishi, chaga, and turkey tail mushrooms for gut health. The conversation also touched on the role of sleep and sunlight as fundamental biohacks. Russell stressed that sleep is the most effective performance enhancer and that exposure to natural sunlight is vital for overall health. Josh Forti added his perspective on health and fitness, mentioning his experience with customized health analysis through blood tests and other assessments. This personalized approach helped him understand his specific health needs and tailor his diet and supplements accordingly. The episode concluded with a discussion about the balance between professional success and personal well-being. Russell and Josh emphasized that focusing on health is not just about physical appearance but about ensuring long-term mental and physical performance, which ultimately contributes to greater success in business and life. Overall, the podcast highlighted the interconnectedness of health, productivity, and entrepreneurial success. By optimizing diet, supplements, and lifestyle choices, entrepreneurs can enhance their mental clarity, energy levels, and overall performance, leading to more effective business practices and a better quality of life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell and Josh reveal the 2 biggest biohack, supplements, diets, brain food, focus & marketing.

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In a recent episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell Brunson and Josh Forti discussed the significance of biohacking, diet, energy, and supplements in enhancing brain function and overall health for entrepreneurs. Russell emphasized the need to optimize health to achieve greater productivity and success in business.


Russell shared his personal journey from being a wrestler to becoming health-conscious after gaining significant weight post-wrestling. He initially hired a trainer and changed his diet, losing a substantial amount of body fat. This transformation highlighted the importance of health in improving productivity, as Russell realized that better health allowed him to accomplish more each day.


One key topic was the timing of food intake. Russell noted that consuming carbohydrates can cause brain fog and fatigue. Therefore, he avoids carbs in the morning and afternoon, focusing on high fats and proteins instead. Carbs are reserved for the evening when they aid in falling asleep.


The discussion also covered the use of nootropics and other supplements. While Russell appreciates certain nootropics like Alpha BRAIN, he is cautious about more extreme supplements and substances due to potential risks. He highlighted the importance of a balanced approach to supplementation, ensuring that any supplements taken are based on individual needs rather than a one-size-fits-all approach.


Gut health emerged as a crucial factor. Russell mentioned that gut health directly impacts brain function. He shared his regimen of digestive enzymes, fermented foods like sauerkraut, and kombucha to improve digestion and nutrient absorption. He also recommended specific products like Gaines in Bulk digestive enzymes and GTs Alive mushroom root beer, which contains reishi, chaga, and turkey tail mushrooms for gut health.


The conversation also touched on the role of sleep and sunlight as fundamental biohacks. Russell stressed that sleep is the most effective performance enhancer and that exposure to natural sunlight is vital for overall health.


Josh Forti added his perspective on health and fitness, mentioning his experience with customized health analysis through blood tests and other assessments. This personalized approach helped him understand his specific health needs and tailor his diet and supplements accordingly.


The episode concluded with a discussion about the balance between professional success and personal well-being. Russell and Josh emphasized that focusing on health is not just about physical appearance but about ensuring long-term mental and physical performance, which ultimately contributes to greater success in business and life.


Overall, the podcast highlighted the interconnectedness of health, productivity, and entrepreneurial success. By optimizing diet, supplements, and lifestyle choices, entrepreneurs can enhance their mental clarity, energy levels, and overall performance, leading to more effective business practices and a better quality of life.

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]]> 1642 no Geeking Out on Story with Josh Forti, Part 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/geeking-out-on-story-with-josh-forti-part-2 In this second installment of this special interview, Russell and Josh go super deep on ‘the master story’ and the attractive character…and what happens when you have tons of followers and NO ONE buys! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. So, today's episode is probably from most of my conversations with Josh, might have been one of my favorites. It was really, really fun. We started talking about expert secrets and storytelling and how they work, and attractive character profiles, which one you should be using, and how they work, and can you change them? And then also he started going into his concept of the master story, which is something I talk about in Perfect Webinar, but he goes really, really deep in it. And anyway, we geeked out. This was a really fun episode. I hope you enjoy it. With that said, let me cue up the theme song. When we get back, you'll have a chance to listen to this exciting conversation with me and Josh talking about story and attractive character, and a bunch of other really cool things. JoshForti: I got to ask this. Are you not on Twitter? Like I see you on Twitter a lot, and I see you posting stuff on Twitter. But is it not you that's engaging on Twitter? Russell: No, I don't know how to tweet. Josh: You don't know how to tweet? Russell, I tweeted you a lot. Or not a lot, but I tweeted you quite a bit. Russell: Oh, hey. Josh: And then sometimes you like my tweets. Dang it. Russell: I do like all your tweets. They're awesome. Josh: Yeah. Oh, man. Russell: I personally, I enjoy Instagram, probably my favorite. And then Facebook's probably number two. But that's the two social platforms I spend my personal time on the most. So, if it's from either of those two platforms, it's usually me. If it's other places... Josh: Do you have it like broken up? Like are you like, "Instagram, I do this type of content and stuff on. And Facebook, I do this type of content on." Or is it kind of like a mixture of both? Or... Russell: Um. Josh: For you personally. I know your team posts stuff, but... Russell: The only place I really post/do stuff typically is Instagram, like stories. That's where I kind of, like me personally, do stuff. And then Facebook and my personal page, probably once, every once in a while, I drop stuff there. And everything else, that's my team. Josh: Yeah, that's rare though, not often. Russell: Yeah. Josh: You're not like me who's like, "What? It's been 48 hours without some form of controversy? What can I say? Oh my God." All right. Well, actually, I kind of want to talk about that though. Not so much controversy, but creating content specifically around storytelling, because I think this is probably one of the biggest... Let me give backstory, a little context around this. I came into the world completely backwards of what most people do, right? So I was the guy that came into the world, and most people have no following and no followers, and they can't get leads to happen. Right? And they don't get anybody to show up to their webinar. And then they're super depressed because nobody showed up and nobody bought. I had the exact opposite problem. I had everybody show up and nobody bought. And let me tell you, that's way more depressing. You know why? Because when everybody shows up and nobody buys, you're like, "Crap. Now I really am screwed because I have no idea what's going on." Right? Russell: It was me, and not the… whatever, yeah. Josh: Right. It's not because nobody's hearing it. It's because I actually suck. And I remember the first time I ever did a webinar, we actually... I don't know if you remember this or not. I actually sent you a Snapchat. This is right when you first got Snapchat. This is way, way back in the day. I've told this story before. And I went and I was like, "Russell, what's up, man? I'm trying to build this webinar. How much would you charge me to build out a webinar for me or whatever?" Right? And you sent me a little video, a Snapchat video back. You're in the Jeep, and you were like, "Man, I don't really do that. I don't really do that anymore." So I like snapped you back, and then you snapped me back, and you're like, "It'd probably be like $250,000 or something like that. But I don't really do that." I'm like, "Man, I really wish I would've hired you for 250 grand." But anyway, so I go and we do this huge webinar, and everyone told us... We were like, "We're going to have all these people sign up." And everyone's like, "No. No, you're not. Nobody gets people to their webinar that easy. You maybe have a hundred registrants." We had 2000 people register, and we had a thousand people... We maxed out the room with a thousand people on live. At the pitch, there was like 982 people in the room. I go through, I do my pitch. No one buys, not a single person. And then we hung up, and like an hour goes by, and one person had bought. And most miserable, depressing... Russell: That's the worst because then you're like, "Crap. I thought there was no sound or something. Maybe they didn't hear me." Josh: Right, right, right. But I sat there and it was a bad webinar. We had like dozens, probably hundreds of emails and comments of like, "Can I have my money back for a free webinar? This totally sucks. Worst experience ever." It was awful, right? And what was interesting is that really scarred me for a while, from doing presentations and from doing anything where I pitched live. And so I basically went and I just did sales from that point on. I did lots of presentations. I did lots of content. But I did not actually go and pitch because really, it was like PTSD almost. Right? It was like, "I don't want to go back there." And what was interesting is I went and I would do sales, and I got good at sales, but sales is hard, man. Sales is just a different game. It's just like pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing. Right? And then my brother died, and out of just sheer not knowing what to do, I just started sharing my story because at that point you're like, "What do you do? My whole life is messed up at this point. I'm so confused." And so I just start sharing what I was going through, and I start sharing things of like the emotions and what I'm learning and what I'm going through. And I remember people just started buying, and it was like the weirdest thing, because I wasn't selling anything. Right? But I would go through and I'd be like, "I'm super grateful and thankful to have an audience right now because I'm able to go through and have a business that allows me to go and like be mobile and go to my brother's funeral or whatever." And then people started buying my programs. And I was like, "What in the world?" And then I would share other things, and then people would start buying. And I'm like, "I'm not actually selling these things. I'm just talking about my life." And what was interesting is I went back eventually later that year, and I went back to all these different people, and I was like, "Why did you buy this product?" And they're like, "Well, because you told such and such a story." Oh, that's interesting. So then I went over here and I was like, "Why did you buy that product?" And they're like, "Well, you guys told such and such story." And it was a completely different story. And it was like they were buying because they would hear a story, and they would associate that story with a product that I was selling, and they would go buy it. And so I had all these different products and all these different stories, and I was like, "Okay, well, I got to figure out what's the one story that I want people to figure out?" Right? So I could sell the one product. And so that's what I've really been focused on recently. But that lesson taught me that storytelling was everything, because I had heard that from you a million times. Right? Russell: Yeah. You didn't believe it. Josh: Story, story, story, story. Right? And I'm like, "I'm telling stories, Russell. What more do you want me to do?" But I wasn't. I was telling facts and I was going out there and trying to sound smart. And when I just let go of it all and was like, "This is the story, like the real, the raw, the genuine. I'm not trying to sell you anything. This is legitimately what's going on in my life." I made more money and more sales than I had before. And so I would love for you to talk about... Like I know in Expert Seekers you go through like storytelling and all the different, the core four stories, and the change of false beliefs. But what's the key? And maybe that's it, like going back through that. And that's fine. But like what's the key to telling a good story? Because I think not only do people... And there's a follow-up question to this, which I'm not going to tell you what it is yet. But what are the elements that make a good story? What actually makes a story work? And how do you tell one effectively? Russell: Yeah. First off, it's fascinating because I went through a very similar journey when I got in this world too. I remember going to my very first event. I saw people selling from stage, and seeing the numbers and doing the math, I was just like, "This is crazy. There's no way this actually works." And then I remember getting invited to speak at a seminar, and it was different because webinars are painful, but man, standing on stage and doing a pitch, and then it bombing was even worse. Because it's just like all these people, nobody moved, and it was just like... In fact, I remember I was like, "I'll never, after the first one, I'll never do this again." That was the worst experience ever. And that's when I joined the Dan Kennedy world, and they had this public speaking course. It was like 40 CDs. I remember the pack was like this thick of CDs. And I bought it because I was like, "I want to figure this thing out." I started listening to him. And I don't remember the course at all, other than this feeling of just like it's not teaching. Teaching is not what gets people to buy when you're on stage. It's telling these stories that connect with people. And it shifted my mindset, and so it shifted to the point where I went and tried again. And the next time I tried, I tried to weed these things in, and I got like six sales, a thousand bucks apiece. And I was like, "Oh, okay." Like I got the reward of like this actually worked. And then I was like, "Okay, do it again and do it again." And then you start getting obsessed with it. And then for me, most of my education for the next five years... Because there wasn't a lot of people that had courses on public speaking or things like that. There were a couple, but there wasn't a lot. I just went... And from a timeline, it was before the big 2000 whatever, the big crash in 2008 or whatever. And so there were events happening every single weekend. So I'd go to an event every weekend, and I would sit there and I would just watch the people speak. And I would watch what they were doing and then see how people would buy at the end. And people, the ones that had the big table rushes and stuff, I was like, "Okay, what did they just do? What'd they do to me? How did they do it? What did they say?" And I was like trying to dissect what they were doing. And then I would model that for my presentations. I'd be like, "Oh, I like how they did that part, how they told the story or how they got emotional." Sort of like just studying. McCall Jones calls it charisma hacking. I didn't know that's what it was at the time. But I was just watching how they did stuff and how it made me feel. And it wasn't just like selling from stage. I started watching religion people as well. Like some of the best presenters in the world are preachers and pastors and things like that. And I was watching just people speak and how they got me to feel and move, and how they told stories in a way that was exciting. And then so that's like this study I started going on. Then I met Michael Hague. I started learning about story structure. I was like, "This isn't just made up. There's actual structures and there's things in place. And this guy's way easier," because now I'm not just guessing. There's actually a pathway. Anyway, so that's kind of my history with it too, but it's fascinating. But I think that if I was to break it down into something for people to understand that's not complex but simple... Because you can go to the Expert Secrets book and it can get really complex. But the simplest form is that if somebody's coming to you, it's because they're looking for something different, right? They want change. They want more. There's some result. And I always think about this like on a mountain because Dan Kennedy used to talk about this. He's like, "You need to become the guru on the mountain. And people are going to come to the base of the mountain, and the closer they get to you up the mountain, the more they're going to pay." Right? So, the base of the mountain, they're paying a hundred bucks a month for a newsletter. And then they want to get closer, they pay 500 bucks a month, then a thousand bucks a month. And for whatever, for 50 grand, they can sit at your feet and talk to you." And he used to always talk about that guru on the mountain thing. And back when I was first studying this, the way people sold was different. It was much more like that. It was more of a status play like, "This is how successful and why you should come up here. And if you want to be like me, you got to come to me, pay me more money." And I never really resonated with that, partially because I'm awkward and I always felt awkward like positioning myself. So I never liked that, and so I started learning about story structure. It was cool because I realized that the positioning of you on the mountain, it's essential, right? But it's not like you sell from the top of the mountain, yelling down to the people. It's like people see you on the top of the mountain, and they're down here like, "I want to be up there." You're like, "Cool." And then it's you coming down off the mountain, running down to where they're at, and being like, "Okay, I know exactly where you're at. Let me tell you my story, because I was in your same spot at one time." Right? And that's the power. So, if you look at the way I do my presentations, I usually drop like one slide or one thing like, "Hey, this is the thing you want." Right? Like, "Cool, I've made whatever." Like I'll do my quick posturing just so they know that I've been to the top of the mountain they're trying to get to. But then I don't stay there. But again, if you watch the old-time speakers from the nineties and early 2000s, they would spend the 90-minute presentation talking about them on top of the mountain the whole time. And I just hate it. So I drop real quick, so you know that I know I've been where we're trying to get to, but I got to come back very, very quickly. And the story I'm telling you is the story, my story, of them. Right? I have to put myself in their spot. Like where was I when I went through the same thing? Because all of us, if you got to the top of the mountain, somewhere you had to start hiking. And you went through that journey to be the guru on the top. Right? And so it's like coming back and remembering where are they at or where were you at, telling your story. And if you tell it the way that they connect, they're like, "Oh my gosh, they are me. I was Russell. Russell went through this. He understands." And there's empathy. Then they trust you. Then they want to go on that journey with you. That's like when you came out and you started telling your story, it wasn't you posturing a position of how great you were. But it's like, "Hey, I've done this thing you're trying to figure out. But let me tell you my story and how I'm struggling, how I'm still struggling, the struggles I went through, and the pain and the fear." And all of sudden they're like, "Oh, I feel that too. I feel the pain. I feel the fear. I understand those things. This person understands me. I can trust them to take me on this journey because he's not going to be the person who's just positioning how great they are. It's someone who I have empathy with. They understand me." And that's the key. Because if they feel like you understand them, then they're going to go on that journey with you. And you do that by telling the story, like your version of their story. Because they're living it right now, and you've lived it the past. You've got to tell that in a way where they connect and now they're going to want to go on that journey with you. And that's kind of the key to it all. Josh: That's super, super interesting. Yeah. Because when I think about story structure, because I've like tried to simplify things down in my own head... Because it's always interesting, because I'll watch everything that you do, and so it's funny whenever I do presentations, people are like, "You're a mini Russell." I'm like, "Well, that makes sense actually. Right?" Like I've watched all this stuff, right? So, but for me, man, going through Expert Secrets, I don't know, it was probably the third or fourth or maybe even fifth time through before I finally actually was like, "Oh yeah, you actually do know what you're talking about." Because every step of the way I'd be like, "But my story doesn't fit in. That doesn't work." Or like, "Mine doesn't have that." Or like, "It's not that systematic." Or, "Russell, it's too much of a science. There's more of an art to it." And then I'd read about it and I'd be like, "This is so scientific." And then I'd watch you do it and I'm like, "That's so artistic." And I'm like, "But they're the same." Right? And so I would try to figure out ways to simplify it down to a way I can understand it. And then once I would understand it, I would plug it into yours, and then it would work. Right? And so for me, it was always like, okay, there's four parts. It's, "How did I get here?" Right? That's backstory. Like, "How did I get to right here right now?" That's like that. And then it's, "Where am I going?" Right? So, the goal, the desire. And then it's, "How am I going to get there?" New vehicle, new opportunity, right? And then it's, "What's it going to look like?" The vision, like what's it going to look like in the process of all that, so we can paint this thing and we get people emotionally attached? And so for me, in my brain... And they don't always happen in that sequential order. Like sometimes you start with the desire, and then you go back, but it has to have all four of those parts. And then I would take that and I would go, and then I would apply it to the Expert Secrets, and then it would start working. Right? I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's what Russell's doing here and here and here." And then you actually have this whole framework out about it, right? And I think one of the things for me is I always go... Because we've done book clubs on Expert Secrets. I teach stories in marketing. I teach stories in personal development. Like stories and storytelling is a big part of what I do now, especially over the last six months and moving forward. One of the questions that continues to come up is... Well, there's two parts. Let me start with the first one. "Hey, Russell, that's all great, but I'm not a leader. I'm not the attractive character that's the leader." Right? "I'm not the person that figured it out and am living my customer's journey." And there's actually a lot more of those people than I thought. I thought most people were leaders because that's what I was when I first got started. So my question is, do you tell this story a different way? Or how is the story different, how is it positioned differently, if you are not the leader? Because I know you're not in your story. You're the reluctant hero, right? And so I tell people, I'm like, "Before you start figuring out your story, you got to figure out what attractive character you're going to be." Right? And we go through the four inside of Expert Secrets. It's like there's the leader, there's the adventurer, there's the reporter, and then there's the reluctant hero. And what's interesting is early on in my journey, I was the hero. Right? I was the one, I was like, "Guys..." I was literally this broke kid, freaking living in a $500-a-month apartment with duct tape windows. And now I'm not, right? And Instagram was the thing, and social media, and here we go. Right? But as I evolved, then the podcast came. And without even realizing it, I became the reporter. Right? And so how does, based on your attractive character, how does that change the story or how you tell it? Russell: Yeah. And it's funny because mine's transformed, not only just throughout time, but in different situations as well. Right? Like sometimes I'm the attractive... You know, when I got started, say when I was an interviewer, so I interviewed people. So I was a reporter for a long time. But then I transitioned to like a reluctant hero. But there's other times, like if I'm on Hockey Live, I'm not the reluctant hero, right? At that time I've got to be the hero. Like I'm coming in and I'm setting authority because I've got a whole group of alphas in the room. And if I don't come there as like the head alpha, they will run me over. If you're like in a situation with Tony Adib, like if I'm that situation, I'm transitioning more back to reporter because I'm leveraging Tony's expertise and things like that. And so I'm going back as a reporter. Same thing with Dan Kennedy right now. You look at... It's fascinating. Like we just bought Dan Kennedy's company, right? We just launched the first Dan Kennedy new offer. By the way, if you're listening, go to NoBSLetter.com and go sign up. But yeah, like... Josh: By the way, make sure you go through my link. Russell: Yeah. But look at like how I've... It's /JoshForti, yeah. Josh: Yeah. Russell: But if you look at like how I'm positioning this offer, it's not me coming as like Russell's the alpha. Right? I'm coming back here as like, "This is my mentor. Boom. And I had this chance to acquire, but I'm going to go through 40 years of his stuff, and I'm bringing it back to you." And I'm pulling these things out, and this is what I learned from Dan and what I learned from Dan here." Right? And it's me coming back in a reporter role with my mentor, and that's how I'm introducing the world to him. So, it shifts, right? It shifts based on the story and the situation. Like what are you using it for? Right? Like I could've come in and be like... Because there's different posturing. Like I could've come in and been the hero and like, "I bought Dan's company. We bringing it back from the dead. Da, da, da." Like put it on me. But that story, first off, didn't feel good. But second off, it's not the story that needs to get people to move. The stories to get people to move is me giving homage to this guy who's changed my life, and now I'm going to be having the chance to bring these things back to you. Like me becoming the reporter back in that phase, in that business and that side, is a more powerful story to use. Right? And so it's all coming down to figuring out what's going to be the best story, right, in this situation and where you're at, and thinking through that. Because right now you're in a reporter role, but other times I still see you, you shift back over where you're running different things. So it's just trying to figure out what's... Again, these are all tools. I was talking to the Two Comma Club X members this week. And part of the group's doing challenges, part are doing webinars, part are doing different things. And they're like, "Which one should I do? Which one's the best?" I'm like, "No, it's not which one's best. These are tools. Like this is a hammer, this is a saw, and different jobs and different tools." And so it's like if I'm coming in here, I want a hammer, but over here I want a saw, and here I want a hammer and a saw, because I'm going to do this thing. Right? And same thing with stories, understanding that. Like your attractive character can shift. Mine's shifted more throughout time, but also situationally it shifts where it's like, okay, this is the role I need to be here, and it's okay to shift back to reporter. I've seen people, in fact... Well, can I drop names? Yeah. Who cares? So like Grant Cardone's a good example. I love Grant. Grant is like the leader, right? And at 10X, after we set all these sales records, Grant was going to shift to the interviewer and he was going to interview me. And it would've been a really fascinating thing for him to pick my brain and ask. And we sat down and we got in the thing, and he sat there for a second, and all of a sudden he was like, he didn't want to. He thought like shifting to the interviewer was a decrease in status. And he literally stopped before he started and said, "Actually I don't want to interview you. I'm going to have somebody else do it." And he got off the little thing, had somebody else come in, and that person interviewed me. And I was like, "Ah, dang it." It would've been so powerful for him. Josh: Come on, Grant. Russell: It would been so powerful for him, for his positioning, for people to connect with him better, if he would've come off like, "I'm Grant Cardone." You know, trade, come down for a second, and done the reporter, and been excited. Because he genuinely was excited. He, backstage, was freaking out. He was like, "I've never seen what you just did. That was amazing." Like it was this cool thing. And it humanized him for a minute. And he could have had that moment where he did it, and he didn't. Whereas me right now with Kennedy, I'm paying all homage to Dan. He's amazing. And it, first off, makes the offer better, makes the story better, but it also makes me more... People connect because now it's like they're the same thing. Like, "Oh my gosh. I have mentors. I can be excited about what they're learning." I don't have to posture all the time where I'm the only person. You know what I mean? Josh: Yeah. Well, it's super interesting that you say that because studying influencers has been something that I've kind of geeked out about. And one of the things you talk about in there, in Expert Secrets or whatever, is the attractive character has flaws. Right? And when the attractive character owns those flaws, it actually makes their supporters love them more. And what's interesting is that I've looked at people like Trump, and we're not trying to get political here in any way, shape or form, but one of the big criticisms of Trump, even from his own people, and I being one of those, is he never admits when he's wrong. He never will step down and even give the idea that somebody else could be right. And because of that, that actually hurts him a lot more in the long run than in the short, than it gains him in the short term. Right? And so it's that same concept. And then I look at someone like a Dave Portnoy, right? And do you follow Dave at all? Dave Portnoy? Okay. So he's the founder of Barstool Sports, and he's the one that did the Barstool Fund and everything like that or whatever. Here's a dude who, I mean, his fan base is not as large as Trump's, but as far as like fans and fans, people love Portnoy. Right? Like, I mean, there's his fans. But he makes fun of himself constantly, right? And he's constantly coming back and being like, "Yeah, I messed up." All of his bets are public because he owns like a gambling or a sports betting company. So you go to his Twitter and it's nothing but all of his wins and then all of his losses. Right? And so you can see both, and people just love it. And anytime people are trying to bash up on him, all of his supporters come and they're like, "Yeah, we know he's an idiot. Right? But he's an amazing idiot. Yeah." Right? And so it's like when you show that other side, people connect to you even better. And it's such a fascinating concept because it's opposite of what our brains think. You know what I mean? Russell: A hundred percent. It's counterintuitive. Like we want to always posture position, thinking that's the... It's just like the guru on the mountain we talked about, right? Like in the eighties, nineties, every expert wanted to be the person, the infallible expert up here at the top. But man, that's not what gets people to connect. It's the coming down and like, "Dude, I struggle too. I remember the pain. I remember the pressure, the fear, the scare, like all those things." And that's what connects people. People crave connection now. Maybe there was a time in history where people just wanted the other thing. But nowadays it's not that way. People connect with vulnerability. But it's hard, it's scary, because it's like... In fact, Natalie Hodson, I think she quoted Brene Brown, but she's the one that told me this. She's like, "When you're vulnerable, you feel small, but people looking at it, it feels makes you feel big to them." So it's a weird thing where you're like, "I feel horrible," but it makes them look at you and like, "Oh my gosh, this person's willing to say things I'm thinking in my head and I don't dare to talk about because of my own fear and anxiety and status, and all those kind of things." And it gives them that thing, and that's what gets people to connect with you. It's really fascinating. Josh: Yeah, for sure. For sure. Okay. Last piece on this, which will take up the rest of the time for sure, is the number one question that I get hands down when it comes to stories... I'm sure you've heard this a million times, but in the odd case that you haven't, Russell, your people want to know this. Okay? The number one question is: How do I know which story to tell? Russell: Ooh, that's good. Josh: Right? It's the hardest thing because people are like... And it's always hilarious because I'll sit down and I'll be like, "Well, what story are you trying to tell?" And they're like, "I don't know." And I'm like, "Well, here's your life story." And I will tell them because I'm like their coach and I've been around them for six weeks or whatever it is. And I'll go, "Here's your story. Boom, boom, boom." And I'll summarize their entire life in 30 seconds. And they're like, "How did you do that?" And I'm like, "Because it..." Well, anyway, I want to know the answer to their question. How do you know what story to tell? Because everybody has these. We're so close, right? And for me, I'm about to turn 28, right? My 28th birthday, we'll do a big birthday bash. Russ is coming on. It's going to be great. We're going to want to do podcasts. It's going to be so cool. Right? But it's like I've got 28 years worth of experiences. How do I know what to tell? Russell: Yeah. It's fascinating. When I wrote the first version of the Expert Secrets, I didn't know that was the question people had. I didn't even know how to answer. It never crossed my mind. And anyway, I wrote the second version of the Expert Secrets and I'd seen it, so I'd updated it. But no one ever commented. And it wasn't until... Actually, you came to it. You came to the most recent FHAT event I did, right? The expert one? Yes, okay. Josh: Yeah, not the e-com one, but yeah. Russell: Yeah. So the first time I shared that publicly was at that event, and I remember it was fascinating because Steven Larson is probably one of the people that have studied me the most. And he raised his hand like, "Oh my gosh." He's like, "I finally understand what story I'm supposed to tell." And that was coming from Steven who like... And I was like, "Interesting." So, this is the problem I think that... And I always tell people, "Tell your backstory. Tell the origin story." So they're like, "Okay. I was born in Provo, Utah, March 8th, 1980. It was a cold night." And they, they go back to there, right? Because they think that's the story, because I tell them, "Tell your origin story." And it wasn't until at that event... Again, I think, I'm pretty sure in the second version, the hardbound version of DotCom Secrets, it's in there. But it was that event where I really said, "The story you're telling is not like your origin story. It's your origin story of how you came upon or created or figured out your framework. It's your interaction with the framework you're sharing." That's the key, right? So, when I'm talking about the perfect webinar, for example, the origin story I'm telling is not my origin story. It's my origin story discovering this framework. So, for example, I went to Armand Morin’s event and I saw people speaking on stage. I did the math, and then I spoke on stage, and I looked like an idiot. And I went back home, and then I bought Dan Kennedy's course. I realized it was wrong, and then I went through the thing. And so it's that story, it's how I learned or I earned this framework. Like how did I come up with... What was the things I went through to discover this gem that I'm bringing now from the top of the mountain down to them, saying like, "This is the thing I found out, and this is the story about how I found it. Let me share it with you." And be like, "Ooh, I want that gem. I want that gold nugget." And then they come with you on the journey to go and get that with you. So, that's the most simple way I've figured out how to explain it. I'm curious on your side, because you've explained versions of this as well, would you add to that or change it? Or what are kind of your thoughts on it? Josh: Well, so let me start by telling you the biggest struggle that I had. Like I'm talking for over a year of reading Expert Secrets, I struggled with one specific thing that I could not figure out, and it was the question that I wanted to ask you for the longest time. And then like right before we got an interview, I figured it out. I was like, "Oh my gosh." But it was I didn't understand the difference between the backstory and secret number one. And what I meant mean by that is like, to me, I'm like, "First you discover funnels, and then you teach them the framework for funnels. It's the same thing." But then you would say they're different. And I'm like, "How?" Right? Like I don't understand the difference between those two things. Now, at first I didn't understand it at all. And then kind of my first epiphany or my first breakthrough was, "Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. First the backstory introduces the thing. And then secret number one has the framework for the thing." Right? And so then that was kind of my first realization of like, "Okay, these are separate. It's one, it's the thing. And then the framework for the thing." But then I would look at your webinar and I would go, "Russell, Russell, what's your framework? Like what's the framework to build a funnel?" I'm like, "It's hook, story, offer." That's what I thought, right? I'm like, "In order to build a good funnel, it's hook, story, offer." And then I was like, "Well, maybe that's not the framework. Maybe it's add all the upsells and break the beliefs, and then go through." And I was like... But no matter what it was, it was never... Like the framework for building a successful funnel was never to go and model somebody else's funnel, and then build all the up. I'm like, that's a thing, but that's not the parts of a funnel. Right? And so I got confused because I thought the framework that I was supposed to teach in secret number one was the parts of the thing, not the framework for how to build the thing. Right? And so I think one of the biggest 'aha' moments for me is like each part of the webinar that you're doing is its own separate section, and they build off of one another, but they're also each standalone. Right? And so I thought that the backstory or that the story that I told in the backstory was the story through the entire webinar, and it's not. Right? And so whenever I would hear you say, "Well, tell the backstory about how you learned it and how you earned it," I thought it was like that was the story for the webinar, and then I had to go through and tell each thing. And then I realized that there's a separate story for each thing. Right? There was a separate story for the backstory. And by the time you're done with the backstory... And I think it was you that said it. I go back and forth. I really like how Dan Henry explained some of the things specifically when selling courses, because that was the other problem, was you were selling a software and I was like, "Well, what happens if I'm not selling a software? Oh, crap. Where does it fit in?" Right? But I think it was you that said by the time you're done with the backstory, there's a percentage of your people that are ready to buy. And I'm like, "Whoa. That's the story that I've got to figure out." And so for me, I was like, "What is the story that I have to tell, that if I were not allowed to tell secret one, secret two or secret three, people just took me at my word that what I said was the solution to their problem? What's that story that I have to tell that people would go and buy?" And I became obsessed with that, and that's what I call a master story. Because I'm like, to me... And that's why I was telling you where I was geeking out about it. I'm like, to me, once I figure out that, and I've gone through and taught all these students how to teach stories, if I focus all of my time on the three secrets, we never get anywhere. Like literally. It's ridiculous. We'll spend so much time, and then they'll do the presentation and it won't work. But if I spend 80% of my time on just the backstory and we get that right, they basically figure out the other three secrets like that. And I spend 20% of my time in the other three secrets. Russell: That's fascinating. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Because I spend both of my time doing the three secrets, because that's where people get stuck on my side. But man, the way you frame that's really cool, because I always think about... There's different markets I go after, right? So if I'm going after like a beginner market, my first thing is telling the potato gun story, because it's like, "I had a potato gun, we had an upsell, da, da, da." And for beginner, like... Josh: Which 100%, by the way, 100% of what I've done... The last like six, three months I've been doing sales calls like crazy. Whenever I mention the master story, I go, "Hey guys, do you know Russell?" They're like, "What's the master story?" I'm like, "Do you know who Russell Brunson is?" They're like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Do you know the potato gun story?" 100% of the people say yes, every single time. There's not been a single person... I'm like, "That's his master story when it comes to funnels." Anyway. Russell: That's always interests me because I have a different master story if I'm going over like a more advanced audience, which is the master story of no VCs. Right? So it's like, "We're competing against InfusionSoft and all these things. They had a hundred million dollars in funding. We didn't have any money. We were broke. And so we put this thing together. Da, da, da." And they're like, "Now we get customers for free, and then they buy software." And that master story is what sells it to more of like the corporate, like the business owners who think through the world of like investing. So, that's story that I lead... If I talk about potato guns with them, they're lost, right? So again, it's like, people are like, "But I only have a story." It's like, "No, you have different stories. What are the stories that fit the audience?" Dan Kennedy 101, message to market match. Like how do you connect these things? Right? It's like here's the market I'm talking to. In fact, I think you know this. We bought Doodly.com and we bought like Brad Callen’s whole company. And these people, I didn't realize at the time, I thought they were internet marketers using software to make sales videos. But no, they were actually course creators who don't know anything about marketing. And so I went and did my webinar pitch to these people and it bombed, and it was like the worst thing ever. And I was like, "What?" And it was like, "Oh my gosh. I didn't understand the market." And so I had to change. So we rewrote it, changed the story, changed the thing to match the market we're going after. And now it's converted really well. But it was like, it's just understanding that in every situation, like figuring out, "Okay, who am I actually speaking to? So there's the market. And what's the message, the story I think I have that's going to match that to then bring them into our world?" Because I'm selling the same product, no matter what, but there's different stories that's going to hit different markets as you go through. You'll probably hear me quote a lot more Dan Kennedy in your future, as I'm going through all his courses again right now, and having the time of my life with it. So... Josh: Yeah. Well, it's just interesting, just going back to that one concept of like the first core story, the master story, the backstory of it all. I think one of the big problems that I know I ran into this is, once again, I thought the whole webinar was designed to teach and educate. Like that's when I would introduce and teach it, the whole entire process. But it's not. Like secret one, secret two, secret three are designed to educate on the thing that you introduce in the backstory. Right? And for me, with the people I work with on a pretty consistent basis, it's like they don't understand that either. And so when I go in and I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no. Forget about teaching them about it. You have to teach them what it is, why it's so important." And I always go back to that story when you were like no one was buying it and then you're like, "Do you understand what I went through then?" I'm like, "That! That's what you're trying to create." It's like forget the framework for it. Forget how it works. Forget why it worked for them. Forget the external objections for a second or whatever. Like what do you have to do that, if you didn't get to do anything like that, how would you convince somebody that this is the most greatest, amazing thing, and then be like, "And just take my word for it that it's going to work for you." Like, what's that story that you would tell? And for me, once I identified that was what it was, and I started working on my students with that, all the rest of the webinars and find new challenges and everything became easy. Whether it was Catherine Jones when we worked with her, whether it was Brad Gibbon, casual tactics, like all of them, it was like, once we figured out that, then all the rest of the things fell into place. Russell: Yeah. It's fascinating because the reason why I bombed when I first started versus why I started studying dance stuff, is that realization of just like, "They haven't bought into the fact that they want to funnel yet or that they want weight loss or whatever the thing is." Like your only goal during the webinar or the challenge or whatever is to convince them that this is the vehicle that's going to be the most likely successful to get up on that mountain and get the result that they've been looking for. Because they've been looking for the result for a long time, right? I think Katlyn said the average woman goes on eight diets a year. Right? So it's like, now that they're like, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to lose weight." It's not like this, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to make money. Oh my gosh, I'm going to..." Like, they already want the result. They tried three or four other things. You're trying to convince them that your presentation or your challenge or whatever is to convince them that of all the different potential opportunities, that your new opportunity is the one that's most likely to get them success. And if they buy into that, then you can take them on the journey. But you start teaching around the gate. You're trying to take them on this journey, and they're like, "Wait, but there's like 10 other options. I don't think you're the right... I don't even know if you're the right option. I have no idea." So your job and your role is 100% only there to convince them that this is the most likely thing that's going to give them the success they're looking for. And yeah, then you won. Then you can bring them into world. Now you can serve them. Now you can change their life. But until you've sold them on the fact that your vehicle is the one that is most likely to give success, you can't serve them. You can't change their life. You can't do anything. And so that's what we got to become really good at is that transition. So, anyway, so fun. Josh: All right. Well, that'll wrap up the story episode there. I think that was really, really good. I think we got a lot accomplished. Russell: We should go, another time, or next time you're a voice, we should do like a half-day live with everybody on like the master story. That'd be fascinating to go deeper just on that, without the context of having to have all the rest of the webinar things. I'd love to geek out with you deeper on that. So, there's the thought. If you guys want more of that, you got to let me and Josh know, and maybe next time we're around some UFC fight or some fake YouTube boxing fight, we'll plan something fun like that. Because that’d be really cool to go deep on that. Josh: That fake YouTube boxer fight, that's 5 and 0, right? Oh, man. All right. Russell: All right. Thanks, you guys, for listening. If you enjoyed this, please let us know. Tag us on social. Tweet us out. Instagram us. YouTube... I don't know. All the different places. Josh: Don't tweet us. Russell won't tweet at you. He'll just fake like your tweets. Instagram? Instagram. Russell: Tweet at Josh, and then I'll share it. Josh: Yeah. Russell: My team will share it. Anyhow, let us know. We're enjoying doing these, and hopefully you guys love them as well. And the last way, if you want to help grow this podcast, please just tell other people about it. And yeah, that's all I got. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Josh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Geeking Out on Story with Josh Forti, Part 2 full 475 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this second installment of this special interview, Russell and Josh go super deep on ‘the master story’ and the attractive character…and what happens when you have tons of followers and NO ONE buys! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me!... In this second installment of this special interview, Russell and Josh go super deep on ‘the master story’ and the attractive character…and what happens when you have tons of followers and NO ONE buys! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. So, today's episode is probably from most of my conversations with Josh, might have been one of my favorites. It was really, really fun. We started talking about expert secrets and storytelling and how they work, and attractive character profiles, which one you should be using, and how they work, and can you change them? And then also he started going into his concept of the master story, which is something I talk about in Perfect Webinar, but he goes really, really deep in it. And anyway, we geeked out. This was a really fun episode. I hope you enjoy it. With that said, let me cue up the theme song. When we get back, you'll have a chance to listen to this exciting conversation with me and Josh talking about story and attractive character, and a bunch of other really cool things. JoshForti: I got to ask this. Are you not on Twitter? Like I see you on Twitter a lot, and I see you posting stuff on Twitter. But is it not you that's engaging on Twitter? Russell: No, I don't know how to tweet. Josh: You don't know how to tweet? Russell, I tweeted you a lot. Or not a lot, but I tweeted you quite a bit. Russell: Oh, hey. Josh: And then sometimes you like my tweets. Dang it. Russell: I do like all your tweets. They're awesome. Josh: Yeah. Oh, man. Russell: I personally, I enjoy Instagram, probably my favorite. And then Facebook's probably number two. But that's the two social platforms I spend my personal time on the most. So, if it's from either of those two platforms, it's usually me. If it's other places... Josh: Do you have it like broken up? Like are you like, "Instagram, I do this type of content and stuff on. And Facebook, I do this type of content on." Or is it kind of like a mixture of both? Or... Russell: Um. Josh: For you personally. I know your team posts stuff, but... Russell: The only place I really post/do stuff typically is Instagram, like stories. That's where I kind of, like me personally, do stuff. And then Facebook and my personal page, probably once, every once in a while, I drop stuff there. And everything else, that's my team. Josh: Yeah, that's rare though, not often. Russell: Yeah. Josh: You're not like me who's like, "What? It's been 48 hours without some form of controversy? What can I say? Oh my God." All right. Well, actually, I kind of want to talk about that though. Not so much controversy, but creating content specifically around storytelling, because I think this is probably one of the biggest... Let me give backstory, a little context around this. I came into the world completely backwards of what most people do, right? So I was the guy that came into the world, and most people have no following and no followers, and they can't get leads to happen. Right? And they don't get anybody to show up to their webinar. And then they're super depressed because nobody showed up and nobody bought. I had the exact opposite problem. I had everybody show up and nobody bought. And let me tell you, that's way more depressing. You know why? Because when everybody shows up and nobody buys, you're like, "Crap. Now I really am screwed because I have no idea what's going on." Right? Russell: It was me, and not the… whatever, yeah. Josh: Right. It's not because nobody's hearing it. It's because I actually suck. And I remember the first time I ever did a webinar, we actually... I don't know if you remember this or not. I actually sent you a Snapchat. This is right when you first got Snapchat. This is way, way back in the day. I've told this story before. And I went and I was like, "Russell, what's up, man? I'm trying to build this webinar. How much would you charge me to build out a webinar for me or whatever?" Right? And you sent me a little video, a Snapchat video back. You're in the Jeep, and you were like, "Man, I don't really do that. I don't really do that anymore." So I like snapped you back, and then you snapped me back, and you're like, "It'd probably be like $250,000 or something like that. But I don't really do that." I'm like, "Man, I really wish I would've hired you for 250 grand." But anyway, so I go and we do this huge webinar, and everyone told us... We were like, "We're going to have all these people sign up." And everyone's like, "No. No, you're not. Nobody gets people to their webinar that easy. You maybe have a hundred registrants." We had 2000 people register, and we had a thousand people... We maxed out the room with a thousand people on live. At the pitch, there was like 982 people in the room. I go through, I do my pitch. No one buys, not a single person. And then we hung up, and like an hour goes by, and one person had bought. And most miserable, depressing... Russell: That's the worst because then you're like, "Crap. I thought there was no sound or something. Maybe they didn't hear me." Josh: Right, right, right. But I sat there and it was a bad webinar. We had like dozens, probably hundreds of emails and comments of like, "Can I have my money back for a free webinar? This totally sucks. Worst experience ever." It was awful, right? And what was interesting is that really scarred me for a while, from doing presentations and from doing anything where I pitched live. And so I basically went and I just did sales from that point on. I did lots of presentations. I did lots of content. But I did not actually go and pitch because really, it was like PTSD almost. Right? It was like, "I don't want to go back there." And what was interesting is I went and I would do sales, and I got good at sales, but sales is hard, man. Sales is just a different game. It's just like pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing. Right? And then my brother died, and out of just sheer not knowing what to do, I just started sharing my story because at that point you're like, "What do you do? My whole life is messed up at this point. I'm so confused." And so I just start sharing what I was going through, and I start sharing things of like the emotions and what I'm learning and what I'm going through. And I remember people just started buying, and it was like the weirdest thing, because I wasn't selling anything. Right? But I would go through and I'd be like, "I'm super grateful and thankful to have an audience right now because I'm able to go through and have a business that allows me to go and like be mobile and go to my brother's funeral or whatever." And then people started buying my programs. And I was like, "What in the world?" And then I would share other things, and then people would start buying. And I'm like, "I'm not actually selling these things. I'm just talking about my life." And what was interesting is I went back eventually later that year, and I went back to all these different people, and I was like, "Why did you buy this product?" And they're like, "Well, because you told such and such a story." Oh, that's interesting. So then I went over here and I was like, "Why did you buy that product?" And they're like, "Well, you guys told such and such story." And it was a completely different story. And it was like they were buying because they would hear a story, and they would associate that story with a product that I was selling, and they would go buy it. And so I had all these different products and all these different stories, and I was like, "Okay, well, I got to figure out what's the one story that I want people to figure out?" Right? So I could sell the one product. And so that's what I've really been focused on recently. But that lesson taught me that storytelling was everything, because I had heard that from you a million times. Right? Russell: Yeah. You didn't believe it. Josh: Story, story, story, story. Right? And I'm like, "I'm telling stories, Russell. What more do you want me to do?" But I wasn't. I was telling facts and I was going out there and trying to sound smart. And when I just let go of it all and was like, "This is the story, like the real, the raw, the genuine. I'm not trying to sell you anything. This is legitimately what's going on in my life." I made more money and more sales than I had before. And so I would love for you to talk about... Like I know in Expert Seekers you go through like storytelling and all the different, the core four stories, and the change of false beliefs. But what's the key? And maybe that's it, like going back through that. And that's fine. But like what's the key to telling a good story? Because I think not only do people... And there's a follow-up question to this, which I'm not going to tell you what it is yet. But what are the elements that make a good story? What actually makes a story work? And how do you tell one effectively? Russell: Yeah. First off, it's fascinating because I went through a very similar journey when I got in this world too. I remember going to my very first event. I saw people selling from stage, and seeing the numbers and doing the math, I was just like, "This is crazy. There's no way this actually works." And then I remember getting invited to speak at a seminar, and it was different because webinars are painful, but man, standing on stage and doing a pitch, and then it bombing was even worse. Because it's just like all these people, nobody moved, and it was just like... In fact, I remember I was like, "I'll never, after the first one, I'll never do this again." That was the worst experience ever. And that's when I joined the Dan Kennedy world, and they had this public speaking course. It was like 40 CDs. I remember the pack was like this thick of CDs. And I bought it because I was like, "I want to figure this thing out." I started listening to him. And I don't remember the course at all, other than this feeling of just like it's not teaching. Teaching is not what gets people to buy when you're on stage. It's telling these stories that connect with people. And it shifted my mindset, and so it shifted to the point where I went and tried again. And the next time I tried, I tried to weed these things in, and I got like six sales, a thousand bucks apiece. And I was like, "Oh, okay." Like I got the reward of like this actually worked. And then I was like, "Okay, do it again and do it again." And then you start getting obsessed with it. And then for me, most of my education for the next five years... Because there wasn't a lot of people that had courses on public speaking or things like that. There were a couple, but there wasn't a lot. I just went... And from a timeline, it was before the big 2000 whatever, the big crash in 2008 or whatever. And so there were events happening every single weekend. So I'd go to an event every weekend, and I would sit there and I would just watch the people speak. And I would watch what they were doing and then see how people would buy at the end. And people, the ones that had the big table rushes and stuff, I was like, "Okay, what did they just do? What'd they do to me? How did they do it? What did they say?" And I was like trying to dissect what they were doing. And then I would model that for my presentations. I'd be like, "Oh, I like how they did that part, how they told the story or how they got emotional." Sort of like just studying. McCall Jones calls it charisma hacking. I didn't know that's what it was at the time. But I was just watching how they did stuff and how it made me feel. And it wasn't just like selling from stage. I started watching religion people as well. Like some of the best presenters in the world are preachers and pastors and things like that. And I was watching just people speak and how they got me to feel and move, and how they told stories in a way that was exciting. And then so that's like this study I started going on. Then I met Michael Hague. I started learning about story structure. I was like, "This isn't just made up. There's actual structures and there's things in place. And this guy's way easier," because now I'm not just guessing. There's actually a pathway. Anyway, so that's kind of my history with it too, but it's fascinating. But I think that if I was to break it down into something for people to understand that's not complex but simple... Because you can go to the Expert Secrets book and it can get really complex. But the simplest form is that if somebody's coming to you, it's because they're looking for something different, right? They want change. They want more. There's some result. And I always think about this like on a mountain because Dan Kennedy used to talk about this. He's like, "You need to become the guru on the mountain. And people are going to come to the base of the mountain, and the closer they get to you up the mountain, the more they're going to pay." Right? So, the base of the mountain, they're paying a hundred bucks a month for a newsletter. And then they want to get closer, they pay 500 bucks a month, then a thousand bucks a month. And for whatever, for 50 grand, they can sit at your feet and talk to you." And he used to always talk about that guru on the mountain thing. And back when I was first studying this, the way people sold was different. It was much more like that. It was more of a status play like, "This is how successful and why you should come up here. And if you want to be like me, you got to come to me, pay me more money." And I never really resonated with that, partially because I'm awkward and I always felt awkward like positioning myself. So I never liked that, and so I started learning about story structure. It was cool because I realized that the positioning of you on the mountain, it's essential, right? But it's not like you sell from the top of the mountain, yelling down to the people. It's like people see you on the top of the mountain, and they're down here like, "I want to be up there." You're like, "Cool." And then it's you coming down off the mountain, running down to where they're at, and being like, "Okay, I know exactly where you're at. Let me tell you my story, because I was in your same spot at one time." Right? And that's the power. So, if you look at the way I do my presentations, I usually drop like one slide or one thing like, "Hey, this is the thing you want." Right? Like, "Cool, I've made whatever." Like I'll do my quick posturing just so they know that I've been to the top of the mountain they're trying to get to. But then I don't stay there. But again, if you watch the old-time speakers from the nineties and early 2000s, they would spend the 90-minute presentation talking about them on top of the mountain the whole time. And I just hate it. So I drop real quick, so you know that I know I've been where we're trying to get to, but I got to come back very, very quickly. And the story I'm telling you is the story, my story, of them. Right? I have to put myself in their spot. Like where was I when I went through the same thing? Because all of us, if you got to the top of the mountain, somewhere you had to start hiking. And you went through that journey to be the guru on the top. Right? And so it's like coming back and remembering where are they at or where were you at, telling your story. And if you tell it the way that they connect, they're like, "Oh my gosh, they are me. I was Russell. Russell went through this. He understands." And there's empathy. Then they trust you. Then they want to go on that journey with you. That's like when you came out and you started telling your story, it wasn't you posturing a position of how great you were. But it's like, "Hey, I've done this thing you're trying to figure out. But let me tell you my story and how I'm struggling, how I'm still struggling, the struggles I went through, and the pain and the fear." And all of sudden they're like, "Oh, I feel that too. I feel the pain. I feel the fear. I understand those things. This person understands me. I can trust them to take me on this journey because he's not going to be the person who's just positioning how great they are. It's someone who I have empathy with. They understand me." And that's the key. Because if they feel like you understand them, then they're going to go on that journey with you. And you do that by telling the story, like your version of their story. Because they're living it right now, and you've lived it the past. You've got to tell that in a way where they connect and now they're going to want to go on that journey with you. And that's kind of the key to it all. Josh: That's super, super interesting. Yeah. Because when I think about story structure, because I've like tried to simplify things down in my own head... Because it's always interesting, because I'll watch everything that you do, and so it's funny whenever I do presentations, people are like, "You're a mini Russell." I'm like, "Well, that makes sense actually. Right?" Like I've watched all this stuff, right? So, but for me, man, going through Expert Secrets, I don't know, it was probably the third or fourth or maybe even fifth time through before I finally actually was like, "Oh yeah, you actually do know what you're talking about." Because every step of the way I'd be like, "But my story doesn't fit in. That doesn't work." Or like, "Mine doesn't have that." Or like, "It's not that systematic." Or, "Russell, it's too much of a science. There's more of an art to it." And then I'd read about it and I'd be like, "This is so scientific." And then I'd watch you do it and I'm like, "That's so artistic." And I'm like, "But they're the same." Right? And so I would try to figure out ways to simplify it down to a way I can understand it. And then once I would understand it, I would plug it into yours, and then it would work. Right? And so for me, it was always like, okay, there's four parts. It's, "How did I get here?" Right? That's backstory. Like, "How did I get to right here right now?" That's like that. And then it's, "Where am I going?" Right? So, the goal, the desire. And then it's, "How am I going to get there?" New vehicle, new opportunity, right? And then it's, "What's it going to look like?" The vision, like what's it going to look like in the process of all that, so we can paint this thing and we get people emotionally attached? And so for me, in my brain... And they don't always happen in that sequential order. Like sometimes you start with the desire, and then you go back, but it has to have all four of those parts. And then I would take that and I would go, and then I would apply it to the Expert Secrets, and then it would start working. Right? I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's what Russell's doing here and here and here." And then you actually have this whole framework out about it, right? And I think one of the things for me is I always go... Because we've done book clubs on Expert Secrets. I teach stories in marketing. I teach stories in personal development. Like stories and storytelling is a big part of what I do now, especially over the last six months and moving forward. One of the questions that continues to come up is... Well, there's two parts. Let me start with the first one. "Hey, Russell, that's all great, but I'm not a leader. I'm not the attractive character that's the leader." Right? "I'm not the person that figured it out and am living my customer's journey." And there's actually a lot more of those people than I thought. I thought most people were leaders because that's what I was when I first got started. So my question is, do you tell this story a different way? Or how is the story different, how is it positioned differently, if you are not the leader? Because I know you're not in your story. You're the reluctant hero, right? And so I tell people, I'm like, "Before you start figuring out your story, you got to figure out what attractive character you're going to be." Right? And we go through the four inside of Expert Secrets. It's like there's the leader, there's the adventurer, there's the reporter, and then there's the reluctant hero. And what's interesting is early on in my journey, I was the hero. Right? I was the one, I was like, "Guys..." I was literally this broke kid, freaking living in a $500-a-month apartment with duct tape windows. And now I'm not, right? And Instagram was the thing, and social media, and here we go. Right? But as I evolved, then the podcast came. And without even realizing it, I became the reporter. Right? And so how does, based on your attractive character, how does that change the story or how you tell it? Russell: Yeah. And it's funny because mine's transformed, not only just throughout time, but in different situations as well. Right? Like sometimes I'm the attractive... You know, when I got started, say when I was an interviewer, so I interviewed people. So I was a reporter for a long time. But then I transitioned to like a reluctant hero. But there's other times, like if I'm on Hockey Live, I'm not the reluctant hero, right? At that time I've got to be the hero. Like I'm coming in and I'm setting authority because I've got a whole group of alphas in the room. And if I don't come there as like the head alpha, they will run me over. If you're like in a situation with Tony Adib, like if I'm that situation, I'm transitioning more back to reporter because I'm leveraging Tony's expertise and things like that. And so I'm going back as a reporter. Same thing with Dan Kennedy right now. You look at... It's fascinating. Like we just bought Dan Kennedy's company, right? We just launched the first Dan Kennedy new offer. By the way, if you're listening, go to NoBSLetter.com and go sign up. But yeah, like... Josh: By the way, make sure you go through my link. Russell: Yeah. But look at like how I've... It's /JoshForti, yeah. Josh: Yeah. Russell: But if you look at like how I'm positioning this offer, it's not me coming as like Russell's the alpha. Right? I'm coming back here as like, "This is my mentor. Boom. And I had this chance to acquire, but I'm going to go through 40 years of his stuff, and I'm bringing it back to you." And I'm pulling these things out, and this is what I learned from Dan and what I learned from Dan here." Right? And it's me coming back in a reporter role with my mentor, and that's how I'm introducing the world to him. So, it shifts, right? It shifts based on the story and the situation. Like what are you using it for? Right? Like I could've come in and be like... Because there's different posturing. Like I could've come in and been the hero and like, "I bought Dan's company. We bringing it back from the dead. Da, da, da." Like put it on me. But that story, first off, didn't feel good. But second off, it's not the story that needs to get people to move. The stories to get people to move is me giving homage to this guy who's changed my life, and now I'm going to be having the chance to bring these things back to you. Like me becoming the reporter back in that phase, in that business and that side, is a more powerful story to use. Right? And so it's all coming down to figuring out what's going to be the best story, right, in this situation and where you're at, and thinking through that. Because right now you're in a reporter role, but other times I still see you, you shift back over where you're running different things. So it's just trying to figure out what's... Again, these are all tools. I was talking to the Two Comma Club X members this week. And part of the group's doing challenges, part are doing webinars, part are doing different things. And they're like, "Which one should I do? Which one's the best?" I'm like, "No, it's not which one's best. These are tools. Like this is a hammer, this is a saw, and different jobs and different tools." And so it's like if I'm coming in here, I want a hammer, but over here I want a saw, and here I want a hammer and a saw, because I'm going to do this thing. Right? And same thing with stories, understanding that. Like your attractive character can shift. Mine's shifted more throughout time, but also situationally it shifts where it's like, okay, this is the role I need to be here, and it's okay to shift back to reporter. I've seen people, in fact... Well, can I drop names? Yeah. Who cares? So like Grant Cardone's a good example. I love Grant. Grant is like the leader, right? And at 10X, after we set all these sales records, Grant was going to shift to the interviewer and he was going to interview me. And it would've been a really fascinating thing for him to pick my brain and ask. And we sat down and we got in the thing, and he sat there for a second, and all of a sudden he was like, he didn't want to. He thought like shifting to the interviewer was a decrease in status. And he literally stopped before he started and said, "Actually I don't want to interview you. I'm going to have somebody else do it." And he got off the little thing, had somebody else come in, and that person interviewed me. And I was like, "Ah, dang it." It would've been so powerful for him. Josh: Come on, Grant. Russell: It would been so powerful for him, for his positioning, for people to connect with him better, if he would've come off like, "I'm Grant Cardone." You know, trade, come down for a second, and done the reporter, and been excited. Because he genuinely was excited. He, backstage, was freaking out. He was like, "I've never seen what you just did. That was amazing." Like it was this cool thing. And it humanized him for a minute. And he could have had that moment where he did it, and he didn't. Whereas me right now with Kennedy, I'm paying all homage to Dan. He's amazing. And it, first off, makes the offer better, makes the story better, but it also makes me more... People connect because now it's like they're the same thing. Like, "Oh my gosh. I have mentors. I can be excited about what they're learning." I don't have to posture all the time where I'm the only person. You know what I mean? Josh: Yeah. Well, it's super interesting that you say that because studying influencers has been something that I've kind of geeked out about. And one of the things you talk about in there, in Expert Secrets or whatever, is the attractive character has flaws. Right? And when the attractive character owns those flaws, it actually makes their supporters love them more. And what's interesting is that I've looked at people like Trump, and we're not trying to get political here in any way, shape or form, but one of the big criticisms of Trump, even from his own people, and I being one of those, is he never admits when he's wrong. He never will step down and even give the idea that somebody else could be right. And because of that, that actually hurts him a lot more in the long run than in the short, than it gains him in the short term. Right? And so it's that same concept. And then I look at someone like a Dave Portnoy, right? And do you follow Dave at all? Dave Portnoy? Okay. So he's the founder of Barstool Sports, and he's the one that did the Barstool Fund and everything like that or whatever. Here's a dude who, I mean, his fan base is not as large as Trump's, but as far as like fans and fans, people love Portnoy. Right? Like, I mean, there's his fans. But he makes fun of himself constantly, right? And he's constantly coming back and being like, "Yeah, I messed up." All of his bets are public because he owns like a gambling or a sports betting company. So you go to his Twitter and it's nothing but all of his wins and then all of his losses. Right? And so you can see both, and people just love it. And anytime people are trying to bash up on him, all of his supporters come and they're like, "Yeah, we know he's an idiot. Right? But he's an amazing idiot. Yeah." Right? And so it's like when you show that other side, people connect to you even better. And it's such a fascinating concept because it's opposite of what our brains think. You know what I mean? Russell: A hundred percent. It's counterintuitive. Like we want to always posture position, thinking that's the... It's just like the guru on the mountain we talked about, right? Like in the eighties, nineties, every expert wanted to be the person, the infallible expert up here at the top. But man, that's not what gets people to connect. It's the coming down and like, "Dude, I struggle too. I remember the pain. I remember the pressure, the fear, the scare, like all those things." And that's what connects people. People crave connection now. Maybe there was a time in history where people just wanted the other thing. But nowadays it's not that way. People connect with vulnerability. But it's hard, it's scary, because it's like... In fact, Natalie Hodson, I think she quoted Brene Brown, but she's the one that told me this. She's like, "When you're vulnerable, you feel small, but people looking at it, it feels makes you feel big to them." So it's a weird thing where you're like, "I feel horrible," but it makes them look at you and like, "Oh my gosh, this person's willing to say things I'm thinking in my head and I don't dare to talk about because of my own fear and anxiety and status, and all those kind of things." And it gives them that thing, and that's what gets people to connect with you. It's really fascinating. Josh: Yeah, for sure. For sure. Okay. Last piece on this, which will take up the rest of the time for sure, is the number one question that I get hands down when it comes to stories... I'm sure you've heard this a million times, but in the odd case that you haven't, Russell, your people want to know this. Okay? The number one question is: How do I know which story to tell? Russell: Ooh, that's good. Josh: Right? It's the hardest thing because people are like... And it's always hilarious because I'll sit down and I'll be like, "Well, what story are you trying to tell?" And they're like, "I don't know." And I'm like, "Well, here's your life story." And I will tell them because I'm like their coach and I've been around them for six weeks or whatever it is. And I'll go, "Here's your story. Boom, boom, boom." And I'll summarize their entire life in 30 seconds. And they're like, "How did you do that?" And I'm like, "Because it..." Well, anyway, I want to know the answer to their question. How do you know what story to tell? Because everybody has these. We're so close, right? And for me, I'm about to turn 28, right? My 28th birthday, we'll do a big birthday bash. Russ is coming on. It's going to be great. We're going to want to do podcasts. It's going to be so cool. Right? But it's like I've got 28 years worth of experiences. How do I know what to tell? Russell: Yeah. It's fascinating. When I wrote the first version of the Expert Secrets, I didn't know that was the question people had. I didn't even know how to answer. It never crossed my mind. And anyway, I wrote the second version of the Expert Secrets and I'd seen it, so I'd updated it. But no one ever commented. And it wasn't until... Actually, you came to it. You came to the most recent FHAT event I did, right? The expert one? Yes, okay. Josh: Yeah, not the e-com one, but yeah. Russell: Yeah. So the first time I shared that publicly was at that event, and I remember it was fascinating because Steven Larson is probably one of the people that have studied me the most. And he raised his hand like, "Oh my gosh." He's like, "I finally understand what story I'm supposed to tell." And that was coming from Steven who like... And I was like, "Interesting." So, this is the problem I think that... And I always tell people, "Tell your backstory. Tell the origin story." So they're like, "Okay. I was born in Provo, Utah, March 8th, 1980. It was a cold night." And they, they go back to there, right? Because they think that's the story, because I tell them, "Tell your origin story." And it wasn't until at that event... Again, I think, I'm pretty sure in the second version, the hardbound version of DotCom Secrets, it's in there. But it was that event where I really said, "The story you're telling is not like your origin story. It's your origin story of how you came upon or created or figured out your framework. It's your interaction with the framework you're sharing." That's the key, right? So, when I'm talking about the perfect webinar, for example, the origin story I'm telling is not my origin story. It's my origin story discovering this framework. So, for example, I went to Armand Morin’s event and I saw people speaking on stage. I did the math, and then I spoke on stage, and I looked like an idiot. And I went back home, and then I bought Dan Kennedy's course. I realized it was wrong, and then I went through the thing. And so it's that story, it's how I learned or I earned this framework. Like how did I come up with... What was the things I went through to discover this gem that I'm bringing now from the top of the mountain down to them, saying like, "This is the thing I found out, and this is the story about how I found it. Let me share it with you." And be like, "Ooh, I want that gem. I want that gold nugget." And then they come with you on the journey to go and get that with you. So, that's the most simple way I've figured out how to explain it. I'm curious on your side, because you've explained versions of this as well, would you add to that or change it? Or what are kind of your thoughts on it? Josh: Well, so let me start by telling you the biggest struggle that I had. Like I'm talking for over a year of reading Expert Secrets, I struggled with one specific thing that I could not figure out, and it was the question that I wanted to ask you for the longest time. And then like right before we got an interview, I figured it out. I was like, "Oh my gosh." But it was I didn't understand the difference between the backstory and secret number one. And what I meant mean by that is like, to me, I'm like, "First you discover funnels, and then you teach them the framework for funnels. It's the same thing." But then you would say they're different. And I'm like, "How?" Right? Like I don't understand the difference between those two things. Now, at first I didn't understand it at all. And then kind of my first epiphany or my first breakthrough was, "Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. First the backstory introduces the thing. And then secret number one has the framework for the thing." Right? And so then that was kind of my first realization of like, "Okay, these are separate. It's one, it's the thing. And then the framework for the thing." But then I would look at your webinar and I would go, "Russell, Russell, what's your framework? Like what's the framework to build a funnel?" I'm like, "It's hook, story, offer." That's what I thought, right? I'm like, "In order to build a good funnel, it's hook, story, offer." And then I was like, "Well, maybe that's not the framework. Maybe it's add all the upsells and break the beliefs, and then go through." And I was like... But no matter what it was, it was never... Like the framework for building a successful funnel was never to go and model somebody else's funnel, and then build all the up. I'm like, that's a thing, but that's not the parts of a funnel. Right? And so I got confused because I thought the framework that I was supposed to teach in secret number one was the parts of the thing, not the framework for how to build the thing. Right? And so I think one of the biggest 'aha' moments for me is like each part of the webinar that you're doing is its own separate section, and they build off of one another, but they're also each standalone. Right? And so I thought that the backstory or that the story that I told in the backstory was the story through the entire webinar, and it's not. Right? And so whenever I would hear you say, "Well, tell the backstory about how you learned it and how you earned it," I thought it was like that was the story for the webinar, and then I had to go through and tell each thing. And then I realized that there's a separate story for each thing. Right? There was a separate story for the backstory. And by the time you're done with the backstory... And I think it was you that said it. I go back and forth. I really like how Dan Henry explained some of the things specifically when selling courses, because that was the other problem, was you were selling a software and I was like, "Well, what happens if I'm not selling a software? Oh, crap. Where does it fit in?" Right? But I think it was you that said by the time you're done with the backstory, there's a percentage of your people that are ready to buy. And I'm like, "Whoa. That's the story that I've got to figure out." And so for me, I was like, "What is the story that I have to tell, that if I were not allowed to tell secret one, secret two or secret three, people just took me at my word that what I said was the solution to their problem? What's that story that I have to tell that people would go and buy?" And I became obsessed with that, and that's what I call a master story. Because I'm like, to me... And that's why I was telling you where I was geeking out about it. I'm like, to me, once I figure out that, and I've gone through and taught all these students how to teach stories, if I focus all of my time on the three secrets, we never get anywhere. Like literally. It's ridiculous. We'll spend so much time, and then they'll do the presentation and it won't work. But if I spend 80% of my time on just the backstory and we get that right, they basically figure out the other three secrets like that. And I spend 20% of my time in the other three secrets. Russell: That's fascinating. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Because I spend both of my time doing the three secrets, because that's where people get stuck on my side. But man, the way you frame that's really cool, because I always think about... There's different markets I go after, right? So if I'm going after like a beginner market, my first thing is telling the potato gun story, because it's like, "I had a potato gun, we had an upsell, da, da, da." And for beginner, like... Josh: Which 100%, by the way, 100% of what I've done... The last like six, three months I've been doing sales calls like crazy. Whenever I mention the master story, I go, "Hey guys, do you know Russell?" They're like, "What's the master story?" I'm like, "Do you know who Russell Brunson is?" They're like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Do you know the potato gun story?" 100% of the people say yes, every single time. There's not been a single person... I'm like, "That's his master story when it comes to funnels." Anyway. Russell: That's always interests me because I have a different master story if I'm going over like a more advanced audience, which is the master story of no VCs. Right? So it's like, "We're competing against InfusionSoft and all these things. They had a hundred million dollars in funding. We didn't have any money. We were broke. And so we put this thing together. Da, da, da." And they're like, "Now we get customers for free, and then they buy software." And that master story is what sells it to more of like the corporate, like the business owners who think through the world of like investing. So, that's story that I lead... If I talk about potato guns with them, they're lost, right? So again, it's like, people are like, "But I only have a story." It's like, "No, you have different stories. What are the stories that fit the audience?" Dan Kennedy 101, message to market match. Like how do you connect these things? Right? It's like here's the market I'm talking to. In fact, I think you know this. We bought Doodly.com and we bought like Brad Callen’s whole company. And these people, I didn't realize at the time, I thought they were internet marketers using software to make sales videos. But no, they were actually course creators who don't know anything about marketing. And so I went and did my webinar pitch to these people and it bombed, and it was like the worst thing ever. And I was like, "What?" And it was like, "Oh my gosh. I didn't understand the market." And so I had to change. So we rewrote it, changed the story, changed the thing to match the market we're going after. And now it's converted really well. But it was like, it's just understanding that in every situation, like figuring out, "Okay, who am I actually speaking to? So there's the market. And what's the message, the story I think I have that's going to match that to then bring them into our world?" Because I'm selling the same product, no matter what, but there's different stories that's going to hit different markets as you go through. You'll probably hear me quote a lot more Dan Kennedy in your future, as I'm going through all his courses again right now, and having the time of my life with it. So... Josh: Yeah. Well, it's just interesting, just going back to that one concept of like the first core story, the master story, the backstory of it all. I think one of the big problems that I know I ran into this is, once again, I thought the whole webinar was designed to teach and educate. Like that's when I would introduce and teach it, the whole entire process. But it's not. Like secret one, secret two, secret three are designed to educate on the thing that you introduce in the backstory. Right? And for me, with the people I work with on a pretty consistent basis, it's like they don't understand that either. And so when I go in and I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no. Forget about teaching them about it. You have to teach them what it is, why it's so important." And I always go back to that story when you were like no one was buying it and then you're like, "Do you understand what I went through then?" I'm like, "That! That's what you're trying to create." It's like forget the framework for it. Forget how it works. Forget why it worked for them. Forget the external objections for a second or whatever. Like what do you have to do that, if you didn't get to do anything like that, how would you convince somebody that this is the most greatest, amazing thing, and then be like, "And just take my word for it that it's going to work for you." Like, what's that story that you would tell? And for me, once I identified that was what it was, and I started working on my students with that, all the rest of the webinars and find new challenges and everything became easy. Whether it was Catherine Jones when we worked with her, whether it was Brad Gibbon, casual tactics, like all of them, it was like, once we figured out that, then all the rest of the things fell into place. Russell: Yeah. It's fascinating because the reason why I bombed when I first started versus why I started studying dance stuff, is that realization of just like, "They haven't bought into the fact that they want to funnel yet or that they want weight loss or whatever the thing is." Like your only goal during the webinar or the challenge or whatever is to convince them that this is the vehicle that's going to be the most likely successful to get up on that mountain and get the result that they've been looking for. Because they've been looking for the result for a long time, right? I think Katlyn said the average woman goes on eight diets a year. Right? So it's like, now that they're like, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to lose weight." It's not like this, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to make money. Oh my gosh, I'm going to..." Like, they already want the result. They tried three or four other things. You're trying to convince them that your presentation or your challenge or whatever is to convince them that of all the different potential opportunities, that your new opportunity is the one that's most likely to get them success. And if they buy into that, then you can take them on the journey. But you start teaching around the gate. You're trying to take them on this journey, and they're like, "Wait, but there's like 10 other options. I don't think you're the right... I don't even know if you're the right option. I have no idea." So your job and your role is 100% only there to convince them that this is the most likely thing that's going to give them the success they're looking for. And yeah, then you won. Then you can bring them into world. Now you can serve them. Now you can change their life. But until you've sold them on the fact that your vehicle is the one that is most likely to give success, you can't serve them. You can't change their life. You can't do anything. And so that's what we got to become really good at is that transition. So, anyway, so fun. Josh: All right. Well, that'll wrap up the story episode there. I think that was really, really good. I think we got a lot accomplished. Russell: We should go, another time, or next time you're a voice, we should do like a half-day live with everybody on like the master story. That'd be fascinating to go deeper just on that, without the context of having to have all the rest of the webinar things. I'd love to geek out with you deeper on that. So, there's the thought. If you guys want more of that, you got to let me and Josh know, and maybe next time we're around some UFC fight or some fake YouTube boxing fight, we'll plan something fun like that. Because that’d be really cool to go deep on that. Josh: That fake YouTube boxer fight, that's 5 and 0, right? Oh, man. All right. Russell: All right. Thanks, you guys, for listening. If you enjoyed this, please let us know. Tag us on social. Tweet us out. Instagram us. YouTube... I don't know. All the different places. Josh: Don't tweet us. Russell won't tweet at you. He'll just fake like your tweets. Instagram? Instagram. Russell: Tweet at Josh, and then I'll share it. Josh: Yeah. Russell: My team will share it. Anyhow, let us know. We're enjoying doing these, and hopefully you guys love them as well. And the last way, if you want to help grow this podcast, please just tell other people about it. And yeah, that's all I got. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Josh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this second installment of this special interview, Russell and Josh go super deep on ‘the master story’ and the attractive character…and what happens when you have tons of followers and NO ONE buys!

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Russell Brunson:

What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. So, today's episode is probably from most of my conversations with Josh, might have been one of my favorites. It was really, really fun. We started talking about expert secrets and storytelling and how they work, and attractive character profiles, which one you should be using, and how they work, and can you change them? And then also he started going into his concept of the master story, which is something I talk about in Perfect Webinar, but he goes really, really deep in it. And anyway, we geeked out. This was a really fun episode. I hope you enjoy it. With that said, let me cue up the theme song. When we get back, you'll have a chance to listen to this exciting conversation with me and Josh talking about story and attractive character, and a bunch of other really cool things.

JoshForti:

I got to ask this. Are you not on Twitter? Like I see you on Twitter a lot, and I see you posting stuff on Twitter. But is it not you that's engaging on Twitter?

Russell:

No, I don't know how to tweet.

Josh:

You don't know how to tweet? Russell, I tweeted you a lot. Or not a lot, but I tweeted you quite a bit.

Russell:

Oh, hey.

Josh:

And then sometimes you like my tweets. Dang it.

Russell:

I do like all your tweets. They're awesome.

Josh:

Yeah. Oh, man.

Russell:

I personally, I enjoy Instagram, probably my favorite. And then Facebook's probably number two. But that's the two social platforms I spend my personal time on the most. So, if it's from either of those two platforms, it's usually me. If it's other places...

Josh:

Do you have it like broken up? Like are you like, "Instagram, I do this type of content and stuff on. And Facebook, I do this type of content on." Or is it kind of like a mixture of both? Or...

Russell:

Um.

Josh:

For you personally. I know your team posts stuff, but...

Russell:

The only place I really post/do stuff typically is Instagram, like stories. That's where I kind of, like me personally, do stuff. And then Facebook and my personal page, probably once, every once in a while, I drop stuff there. And everything else, that's my team.

Josh:

Yeah, that's rare though, not often.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

You're not like me who's like, "What? It's been 48 hours without some form of controversy? What can I say? Oh my God."

All right. Well, actually, I kind of want to talk about that though. Not so much controversy, but creating content specifically around storytelling, because I think this is probably one of the biggest... Let me give backstory, a little context around this. I came into the world completely backwards of what most people do, right? So I was the guy that came into the world, and most people have no following and no followers, and they can't get leads to happen. Right? And they don't get anybody to show up to their webinar. And then they're super depressed because nobody showed up and nobody bought. I had the exact opposite problem. I had everybody show up and nobody bought. And let me tell you, that's way more depressing. You know why? Because when everybody shows up and nobody buys, you're like, "Crap. Now I really am screwed because I have no idea what's going on." Right?

Russell:

It was me, and not the… whatever, yeah.

Josh:

Right. It's not because nobody's hearing it. It's because I actually suck. And I remember the first time I ever did a webinar, we actually... I don't know if you remember this or not. I actually sent you a Snapchat. This is right when you first got Snapchat. This is way, way back in the day. I've told this story before. And I went and I was like, "Russell, what's up, man? I'm trying to build this webinar. How much would you charge me to build out a webinar for me or whatever?" Right? And you sent me a little video, a Snapchat video back. You're in the Jeep, and you were like, "Man, I don't really do that. I don't really do that anymore." So I like snapped you back, and then you snapped me back, and you're like, "It'd probably be like $250,000 or something like that. But I don't really do that." I'm like, "Man, I really wish I would've hired you for 250 grand."

But anyway, so I go and we do this huge webinar, and everyone told us... We were like, "We're going to have all these people sign up." And everyone's like, "No. No, you're not. Nobody gets people to their webinar that easy. You maybe have a hundred registrants." We had 2000 people register, and we had a thousand people... We maxed out the room with a thousand people on live. At the pitch, there was like 982 people in the room. I go through, I do my pitch. No one buys, not a single person. And then we hung up, and like an hour goes by, and one person had bought. And most miserable, depressing...

Russell:

That's the worst because then you're like, "Crap. I thought there was no sound or something. Maybe they didn't hear me."

Josh:

Right, right, right. But I sat there and it was a bad webinar. We had like dozens, probably hundreds of emails and comments of like, "Can I have my money back for a free webinar? This totally sucks. Worst experience ever." It was awful, right? And what was interesting is that really scarred me for a while, from doing presentations and from doing anything where I pitched live. And so I basically went and I just did sales from that point on. I did lots of presentations. I did lots of content. But I did not actually go and pitch because really, it was like PTSD almost. Right? It was like, "I don't want to go back there."

And what was interesting is I went and I would do sales, and I got good at sales, but sales is hard, man. Sales is just a different game. It's just like pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing. Right? And then my brother died, and out of just sheer not knowing what to do, I just started sharing my story because at that point you're like, "What do you do? My whole life is messed up at this point. I'm so confused." And so I just start sharing what I was going through, and I start sharing things of like the emotions and what I'm learning and what I'm going through. And I remember people just started buying, and it was like the weirdest thing, because I wasn't selling anything. Right? But I would go through and I'd be like, "I'm super grateful and thankful to have an audience right now because I'm able to go through and have a business that allows me to go and like be mobile and go to my brother's funeral or whatever." And then people started buying my programs. And I was like, "What in the world?" And then I would share other things, and then people would start buying. And I'm like, "I'm not actually selling these things. I'm just talking about my life."

And what was interesting is I went back eventually later that year, and I went back to all these different people, and I was like, "Why did you buy this product?" And they're like, "Well, because you told such and such a story." Oh, that's interesting. So then I went over here and I was like, "Why did you buy that product?" And they're like, "Well, you guys told such and such story." And it was a completely different story. And it was like they were buying because they would hear a story, and they would associate that story with a product that I was selling, and they would go buy it. And so I had all these different products and all these different stories, and I was like, "Okay, well, I got to figure out what's the one story that I want people to figure out?" Right? So I could sell the one product.

And so that's what I've really been focused on recently. But that lesson taught me that storytelling was everything, because I had heard that from you a million times. Right?

Russell:

Yeah. You didn't believe it.

Josh:

Story, story, story, story. Right? And I'm like, "I'm telling stories, Russell. What more do you want me to do?" But I wasn't. I was telling facts and I was going out there and trying to sound smart. And when I just let go of it all and was like, "This is the story, like the real, the raw, the genuine. I'm not trying to sell you anything. This is legitimately what's going on in my life." I made more money and more sales than I had before.

And so I would love for you to talk about... Like I know in Expert Seekers you go through like storytelling and all the different, the core four stories, and the change of false beliefs. But what's the key? And maybe that's it, like going back through that. And that's fine. But like what's the key to telling a good story? Because I think not only do people... And there's a follow-up question to this, which I'm not going to tell you what it is yet. But what are the elements that make a good story? What actually makes a story work? And how do you tell one effectively?

Russell:

Yeah. First off, it's fascinating because I went through a very similar journey when I got in this world too. I remember going to my very first event. I saw people selling from stage, and seeing the numbers and doing the math, I was just like, "This is crazy. There's no way this actually works." And then I remember getting invited to speak at a seminar, and it was different because webinars are painful, but man, standing on stage and doing a pitch, and then it bombing was even worse. Because it's just like all these people, nobody moved, and it was just like... In fact, I remember I was like, "I'll never, after the first one, I'll never do this again." That was the worst experience ever.

And that's when I joined the Dan Kennedy world, and they had this public speaking course. It was like 40 CDs. I remember the pack was like this thick of CDs. And I bought it because I was like, "I want to figure this thing out." I started listening to him. And I don't remember the course at all, other than this feeling of just like it's not teaching. Teaching is not what gets people to buy when you're on stage. It's telling these stories that connect with people. And it shifted my mindset, and so it shifted to the point where I went and tried again. And the next time I tried, I tried to weed these things in, and I got like six sales, a thousand bucks apiece. And I was like, "Oh, okay." Like I got the reward of like this actually worked. And then I was like, "Okay, do it again and do it again." And then you start getting obsessed with it.

And then for me, most of my education for the next five years... Because there wasn't a lot of people that had courses on public speaking or things like that. There were a couple, but there wasn't a lot. I just went... And from a timeline, it was before the big 2000 whatever, the big crash in 2008 or whatever. And so there were events happening every single weekend. So I'd go to an event every weekend, and I would sit there and I would just watch the people speak. And I would watch what they were doing and then see how people would buy at the end. And people, the ones that had the big table rushes and stuff, I was like, "Okay, what did they just do? What'd they do to me? How did they do it? What did they say?" And I was like trying to dissect what they were doing.

And then I would model that for my presentations. I'd be like, "Oh, I like how they did that part, how they told the story or how they got emotional." Sort of like just studying. McCall Jones calls it charisma hacking. I didn't know that's what it was at the time. But I was just watching how they did stuff and how it made me feel. And it wasn't just like selling from stage. I started watching religion people as well. Like some of the best presenters in the world are preachers and pastors and things like that. And I was watching just people speak and how they got me to feel and move, and how they told stories in a way that was exciting.

And then so that's like this study I started going on. Then I met Michael Hague. I started learning about story structure. I was like, "This isn't just made up. There's actual structures and there's things in place. And this guy's way easier," because now I'm not just guessing. There's actually a pathway.

Anyway, so that's kind of my history with it too, but it's fascinating. But I think that if I was to break it down into something for people to understand that's not complex but simple... Because you can go to the Expert Secrets book and it can get really complex. But the simplest form is that if somebody's coming to you, it's because they're looking for something different, right? They want change. They want more. There's some result. And I always think about this like on a mountain because Dan Kennedy used to talk about this. He's like, "You need to become the guru on the mountain. And people are going to come to the base of the mountain, and the closer they get to you up the mountain, the more they're going to pay." Right? So, the base of the mountain, they're paying a hundred bucks a month for a newsletter. And then they want to get closer, they pay 500 bucks a month, then a thousand bucks a month. And for whatever, for 50 grand, they can sit at your feet and talk to you." And he used to always talk about that guru on the mountain thing.

And back when I was first studying this, the way people sold was different. It was much more like that. It was more of a status play like, "This is how successful and why you should come up here. And if you want to be like me, you got to come to me, pay me more money." And I never really resonated with that, partially because I'm awkward and I always felt awkward like positioning myself. So I never liked that, and so I started learning about story structure. It was cool because I realized that the positioning of you on the mountain, it's essential, right? But it's not like you sell from the top of the mountain, yelling down to the people. It's like people see you on the top of the mountain, and they're down here like, "I want to be up there." You're like, "Cool." And then it's you coming down off the mountain, running down to where they're at, and being like, "Okay, I know exactly where you're at. Let me tell you my story, because I was in your same spot at one time." Right? And that's the power.

So, if you look at the way I do my presentations, I usually drop like one slide or one thing like, "Hey, this is the thing you want." Right? Like, "Cool, I've made whatever." Like I'll do my quick posturing just so they know that I've been to the top of the mountain they're trying to get to. But then I don't stay there. But again, if you watch the old-time speakers from the nineties and early 2000s, they would spend the 90-minute presentation talking about them on top of the mountain the whole time. And I just hate it. So I drop real quick, so you know that I know I've been where we're trying to get to, but I got to come back very, very quickly.

And the story I'm telling you is the story, my story, of them. Right? I have to put myself in their spot. Like where was I when I went through the same thing? Because all of us, if you got to the top of the mountain, somewhere you had to start hiking. And you went through that journey to be the guru on the top. Right? And so it's like coming back and remembering where are they at or where were you at, telling your story. And if you tell it the way that they connect, they're like, "Oh my gosh, they are me. I was Russell. Russell went through this. He understands." And there's empathy. Then they trust you. Then they want to go on that journey with you.

That's like when you came out and you started telling your story, it wasn't you posturing a position of how great you were. But it's like, "Hey, I've done this thing you're trying to figure out. But let me tell you my story and how I'm struggling, how I'm still struggling, the struggles I went through, and the pain and the fear." And all of sudden they're like, "Oh, I feel that too. I feel the pain. I feel the fear. I understand those things. This person understands me. I can trust them to take me on this journey because he's not going to be the person who's just positioning how great they are. It's someone who I have empathy with. They understand me." And that's the key. Because if they feel like you understand them, then they're going to go on that journey with you. And you do that by telling the story, like your version of their story. Because they're living it right now, and you've lived it the past. You've got to tell that in a way where they connect and now they're going to want to go on that journey with you. And that's kind of the key to it all.

Josh:

That's super, super interesting. Yeah. Because when I think about story structure, because I've like tried to simplify things down in my own head... Because it's always interesting, because I'll watch everything that you do, and so it's funny whenever I do presentations, people are like, "You're a mini Russell." I'm like, "Well, that makes sense actually. Right?" Like I've watched all this stuff, right?

So, but for me, man, going through Expert Secrets, I don't know, it was probably the third or fourth or maybe even fifth time through before I finally actually was like, "Oh yeah, you actually do know what you're talking about." Because every step of the way I'd be like, "But my story doesn't fit in. That doesn't work." Or like, "Mine doesn't have that." Or like, "It's not that systematic." Or, "Russell, it's too much of a science. There's more of an art to it." And then I'd read about it and I'd be like, "This is so scientific." And then I'd watch you do it and I'm like, "That's so artistic." And I'm like, "But they're the same." Right?

And so I would try to figure out ways to simplify it down to a way I can understand it. And then once I would understand it, I would plug it into yours, and then it would work. Right? And so for me, it was always like, okay, there's four parts. It's, "How did I get here?" Right? That's backstory. Like, "How did I get to right here right now?" That's like that. And then it's, "Where am I going?" Right? So, the goal, the desire. And then it's, "How am I going to get there?" New vehicle, new opportunity, right? And then it's, "What's it going to look like?" The vision, like what's it going to look like in the process of all that, so we can paint this thing and we get people emotionally attached?

And so for me, in my brain... And they don't always happen in that sequential order. Like sometimes you start with the desire, and then you go back, but it has to have all four of those parts. And then I would take that and I would go, and then I would apply it to the Expert Secrets, and then it would start working. Right? I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's what Russell's doing here and here and here." And then you actually have this whole framework out about it, right?

And I think one of the things for me is I always go... Because we've done book clubs on Expert Secrets. I teach stories in marketing. I teach stories in personal development. Like stories and storytelling is a big part of what I do now, especially over the last six months and moving forward. One of the questions that continues to come up is... Well, there's two parts. Let me start with the first one. "Hey, Russell, that's all great, but I'm not a leader. I'm not the attractive character that's the leader." Right? "I'm not the person that figured it out and am living my customer's journey." And there's actually a lot more of those people than I thought. I thought most people were leaders because that's what I was when I first got started. So my question is, do you tell this story a different way? Or how is the story different, how is it positioned differently, if you are not the leader? Because I know you're not in your story. You're the reluctant hero, right?

And so I tell people, I'm like, "Before you start figuring out your story, you got to figure out what attractive character you're going to be." Right? And we go through the four inside of Expert Secrets. It's like there's the leader, there's the adventurer, there's the reporter, and then there's the reluctant hero. And what's interesting is early on in my journey, I was the hero. Right? I was the one, I was like, "Guys..." I was literally this broke kid, freaking living in a $500-a-month apartment with duct tape windows. And now I'm not, right? And Instagram was the thing, and social media, and here we go. Right? But as I evolved, then the podcast came. And without even realizing it, I became the reporter. Right? And so how does, based on your attractive character, how does that change the story or how you tell it?

Russell:

Yeah. And it's funny because mine's transformed, not only just throughout time, but in different situations as well. Right? Like sometimes I'm the attractive... You know, when I got started, say when I was an interviewer, so I interviewed people. So I was a reporter for a long time. But then I transitioned to like a reluctant hero. But there's other times, like if I'm on Hockey Live, I'm not the reluctant hero, right? At that time I've got to be the hero. Like I'm coming in and I'm setting authority because I've got a whole group of alphas in the room. And if I don't come there as like the head alpha, they will run me over. If you're like in a situation with Tony Adib, like if I'm that situation, I'm transitioning more back to reporter because I'm leveraging Tony's expertise and things like that. And so I'm going back as a reporter.

Same thing with Dan Kennedy right now. You look at... It's fascinating. Like we just bought Dan Kennedy's company, right? We just launched the first Dan Kennedy new offer. By the way, if you're listening, go to NoBSLetter.com and go sign up. But yeah, like...

Josh:

By the way, make sure you go through my link.

Russell:

Yeah. But look at like how I've... It's /JoshForti, yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

But if you look at like how I'm positioning this offer, it's not me coming as like Russell's the alpha. Right? I'm coming back here as like, "This is my mentor. Boom. And I had this chance to acquire, but I'm going to go through 40 years of his stuff, and I'm bringing it back to you." And I'm pulling these things out, and this is what I learned from Dan and what I learned from Dan here." Right? And it's me coming back in a reporter role with my mentor, and that's how I'm introducing the world to him.

So, it shifts, right? It shifts based on the story and the situation. Like what are you using it for? Right? Like I could've come in and be like... Because there's different posturing. Like I could've come in and been the hero and like, "I bought Dan's company. We bringing it back from the dead. Da, da, da." Like put it on me. But that story, first off, didn't feel good. But second off, it's not the story that needs to get people to move. The stories to get people to move is me giving homage to this guy who's changed my life, and now I'm going to be having the chance to bring these things back to you. Like me becoming the reporter back in that phase, in that business and that side, is a more powerful story to use. Right? And so it's all coming down to figuring out what's going to be the best story, right, in this situation and where you're at, and thinking through that. Because right now you're in a reporter role, but other times I still see you, you shift back over where you're running different things. So it's just trying to figure out what's...

Again, these are all tools. I was talking to the Two Comma Club X members this week. And part of the group's doing challenges, part are doing webinars, part are doing different things. And they're like, "Which one should I do? Which one's the best?" I'm like, "No, it's not which one's best. These are tools. Like this is a hammer, this is a saw, and different jobs and different tools." And so it's like if I'm coming in here, I want a hammer, but over here I want a saw, and here I want a hammer and a saw, because I'm going to do this thing. Right? And same thing with stories, understanding that. Like your attractive character can shift. Mine's shifted more throughout time, but also situationally it shifts where it's like, okay, this is the role I need to be here, and it's okay to shift back to reporter.

I've seen people, in fact... Well, can I drop names? Yeah. Who cares? So like Grant Cardone's a good example. I love Grant. Grant is like the leader, right? And at 10X, after we set all these sales records, Grant was going to shift to the interviewer and he was going to interview me. And it would've been a really fascinating thing for him to pick my brain and ask. And we sat down and we got in the thing, and he sat there for a second, and all of a sudden he was like, he didn't want to. He thought like shifting to the interviewer was a decrease in status. And he literally stopped before he started and said, "Actually I don't want to interview you. I'm going to have somebody else do it." And he got off the little thing, had somebody else come in, and that person interviewed me. And I was like, "Ah, dang it." It would've been so powerful for him.

Josh:

Come on, Grant.

Russell:

It would been so powerful for him, for his positioning, for people to connect with him better, if he would've come off like, "I'm Grant Cardone." You know, trade, come down for a second, and done the reporter, and been excited. Because he genuinely was excited. He, backstage, was freaking out. He was like, "I've never seen what you just did. That was amazing." Like it was this cool thing. And it humanized him for a minute. And he could have had that moment where he did it, and he didn't. Whereas me right now with Kennedy, I'm paying all homage to Dan. He's amazing. And it, first off, makes the offer better, makes the story better, but it also makes me more... People connect because now it's like they're the same thing. Like, "Oh my gosh. I have mentors. I can be excited about what they're learning." I don't have to posture all the time where I'm the only person. You know what I mean?

Josh:

Yeah. Well, it's super interesting that you say that because studying influencers has been something that I've kind of geeked out about. And one of the things you talk about in there, in Expert Secrets or whatever, is the attractive character has flaws. Right? And when the attractive character owns those flaws, it actually makes their supporters love them more. And what's interesting is that I've looked at people like Trump, and we're not trying to get political here in any way, shape or form, but one of the big criticisms of Trump, even from his own people, and I being one of those, is he never admits when he's wrong. He never will step down and even give the idea that somebody else could be right. And because of that, that actually hurts him a lot more in the long run than in the short, than it gains him in the short term. Right? And so it's that same concept.

And then I look at someone like a Dave Portnoy, right? And do you follow Dave at all? Dave Portnoy? Okay. So he's the founder of Barstool Sports, and he's the one that did the Barstool Fund and everything like that or whatever. Here's a dude who, I mean, his fan base is not as large as Trump's, but as far as like fans and fans, people love Portnoy. Right? Like, I mean, there's his fans. But he makes fun of himself constantly, right? And he's constantly coming back and being like, "Yeah, I messed up." All of his bets are public because he owns like a gambling or a sports betting company. So you go to his Twitter and it's nothing but all of his wins and then all of his losses. Right? And so you can see both, and people just love it. And anytime people are trying to bash up on him, all of his supporters come and they're like, "Yeah, we know he's an idiot. Right? But he's an amazing idiot. Yeah." Right? And so it's like when you show that other side, people connect to you even better. And it's such a fascinating concept because it's opposite of what our brains think. You know what I mean?

Russell:

A hundred percent. It's counterintuitive. Like we want to always posture position, thinking that's the... It's just like the guru on the mountain we talked about, right? Like in the eighties, nineties, every expert wanted to be the person, the infallible expert up here at the top. But man, that's not what gets people to connect. It's the coming down and like, "Dude, I struggle too. I remember the pain. I remember the pressure, the fear, the scare, like all those things." And that's what connects people. People crave connection now. Maybe there was a time in history where people just wanted the other thing. But nowadays it's not that way. People connect with vulnerability. But it's hard, it's scary, because it's like... In fact, Natalie Hodson, I think she quoted Brene Brown, but she's the one that told me this. She's like, "When you're vulnerable, you feel small, but people looking at it, it feels makes you feel big to them." So it's a weird thing where you're like, "I feel horrible," but it makes them look at you and like, "Oh my gosh, this person's willing to say things I'm thinking in my head and I don't dare to talk about because of my own fear and anxiety and status, and all those kind of things." And it gives them that thing, and that's what gets people to connect with you. It's really fascinating.

Josh:

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Okay. Last piece on this, which will take up the rest of the time for sure, is the number one question that I get hands down when it comes to stories... I'm sure you've heard this a million times, but in the odd case that you haven't, Russell, your people want to know this. Okay? The number one question is: How do I know which story to tell?

Russell:

Ooh, that's good.

Josh:

Right? It's the hardest thing because people are like... And it's always hilarious because I'll sit down and I'll be like, "Well, what story are you trying to tell?" And they're like, "I don't know." And I'm like, "Well, here's your life story." And I will tell them because I'm like their coach and I've been around them for six weeks or whatever it is. And I'll go, "Here's your story. Boom, boom, boom." And I'll summarize their entire life in 30 seconds. And they're like, "How did you do that?" And I'm like, "Because it..." Well, anyway, I want to know the answer to their question. How do you know what story to tell? Because everybody has these. We're so close, right? And for me, I'm about to turn 28, right? My 28th birthday, we'll do a big birthday bash. Russ is coming on. It's going to be great. We're going to want to do podcasts. It's going to be so cool. Right? But it's like I've got 28 years worth of experiences. How do I know what to tell?

Russell:

Yeah. It's fascinating. When I wrote the first version of the Expert Secrets, I didn't know that was the question people had. I didn't even know how to answer. It never crossed my mind. And anyway, I wrote the second version of the Expert Secrets and I'd seen it, so I'd updated it. But no one ever commented. And it wasn't until... Actually, you came to it. You came to the most recent FHAT event I did, right? The expert one? Yes, okay.

Josh:

Yeah, not the e-com one, but yeah.

Russell:

Yeah. So the first time I shared that publicly was at that event, and I remember it was fascinating because Steven Larson is probably one of the people that have studied me the most. And he raised his hand like, "Oh my gosh." He's like, "I finally understand what story I'm supposed to tell." And that was coming from Steven who like... And I was like, "Interesting."

So, this is the problem I think that... And I always tell people, "Tell your backstory. Tell the origin story." So they're like, "Okay. I was born in Provo, Utah, March 8th, 1980. It was a cold night." And they, they go back to there, right? Because they think that's the story, because I tell them, "Tell your origin story." And it wasn't until at that event... Again, I think, I'm pretty sure in the second version, the hardbound version of DotCom Secrets, it's in there. But it was that event where I really said, "The story you're telling is not like your origin story. It's your origin story of how you came upon or created or figured out your framework. It's your interaction with the framework you're sharing." That's the key, right?

So, when I'm talking about the perfect webinar, for example, the origin story I'm telling is not my origin story. It's my origin story discovering this framework. So, for example, I went to Armand Morin’s event and I saw people speaking on stage. I did the math, and then I spoke on stage, and I looked like an idiot. And I went back home, and then I bought Dan Kennedy's course. I realized it was wrong, and then I went through the thing. And so it's that story, it's how I learned or I earned this framework. Like how did I come up with... What was the things I went through to discover this gem that I'm bringing now from the top of the mountain down to them, saying like, "This is the thing I found out, and this is the story about how I found it. Let me share it with you." And be like, "Ooh, I want that gem. I want that gold nugget." And then they come with you on the journey to go and get that with you. So, that's the most simple way I've figured out how to explain it.

I'm curious on your side, because you've explained versions of this as well, would you add to that or change it? Or what are kind of your thoughts on it?

Josh:

Well, so let me start by telling you the biggest struggle that I had. Like I'm talking for over a year of reading Expert Secrets, I struggled with one specific thing that I could not figure out, and it was the question that I wanted to ask you for the longest time. And then like right before we got an interview, I figured it out. I was like, "Oh my gosh." But it was I didn't understand the difference between the backstory and secret number one. And what I meant mean by that is like, to me, I'm like, "First you discover funnels, and then you teach them the framework for funnels. It's the same thing." But then you would say they're different. And I'm like, "How?" Right? Like I don't understand the difference between those two things.

Now, at first I didn't understand it at all. And then kind of my first epiphany or my first breakthrough was, "Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. First the backstory introduces the thing. And then secret number one has the framework for the thing." Right? And so then that was kind of my first realization of like, "Okay, these are separate. It's one, it's the thing. And then the framework for the thing." But then I would look at your webinar and I would go, "Russell, Russell, what's your framework? Like what's the framework to build a funnel?" I'm like, "It's hook, story, offer." That's what I thought, right? I'm like, "In order to build a good funnel, it's hook, story, offer." And then I was like, "Well, maybe that's not the framework. Maybe it's add all the upsells and break the beliefs, and then go through." And I was like... But no matter what it was, it was never... Like the framework for building a successful funnel was never to go and model somebody else's funnel, and then build all the up. I'm like, that's a thing, but that's not the parts of a funnel. Right?

And so I got confused because I thought the framework that I was supposed to teach in secret number one was the parts of the thing, not the framework for how to build the thing. Right? And so I think one of the biggest 'aha' moments for me is like each part of the webinar that you're doing is its own separate section, and they build off of one another, but they're also each standalone. Right? And so I thought that the backstory or that the story that I told in the backstory was the story through the entire webinar, and it's not. Right? And so whenever I would hear you say, "Well, tell the backstory about how you learned it and how you earned it," I thought it was like that was the story for the webinar, and then I had to go through and tell each thing. And then I realized that there's a separate story for each thing. Right? There was a separate story for the backstory. And by the time you're done with the backstory... And I think it was you that said it. I go back and forth. I really like how Dan Henry explained some of the things specifically when selling courses, because that was the other problem, was you were selling a software and I was like, "Well, what happens if I'm not selling a software? Oh, crap. Where does it fit in?" Right? But I think it was you that said by the time you're done with the backstory, there's a percentage of your people that are ready to buy. And I'm like, "Whoa. That's the story that I've got to figure out." And so for me, I was like, "What is the story that I have to tell, that if I were not allowed to tell secret one, secret two or secret three, people just took me at my word that what I said was the solution to their problem? What's that story that I have to tell that people would go and buy?" And I became obsessed with that, and that's what I call a master story. Because I'm like, to me... And that's why I was telling you where I was geeking out about it. I'm like, to me, once I figure out that, and I've gone through and taught all these students how to teach stories, if I focus all of my time on the three secrets, we never get anywhere. Like literally. It's ridiculous. We'll spend so much time, and then they'll do the presentation and it won't work. But if I spend 80% of my time on just the backstory and we get that right, they basically figure out the other three secrets like that. And I spend 20% of my time in the other three secrets.

Russell:

That's fascinating.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

Because I spend both of my time doing the three secrets, because that's where people get stuck on my side. But man, the way you frame that's really cool, because I always think about... There's different markets I go after, right? So if I'm going after like a beginner market, my first thing is telling the potato gun story, because it's like, "I had a potato gun, we had an upsell, da, da, da." And for beginner, like...

Josh:

Which 100%, by the way, 100% of what I've done... The last like six, three months I've been doing sales calls like crazy. Whenever I mention the master story, I go, "Hey guys, do you know Russell?" They're like, "What's the master story?" I'm like, "Do you know who Russell Brunson is?" They're like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Do you know the potato gun story?" 100% of the people say yes, every single time. There's not been a single person... I'm like, "That's his master story when it comes to funnels." Anyway.

Russell:

That's always interests me because I have a different master story if I'm going over like a more advanced audience, which is the master story of no VCs. Right? So it's like, "We're competing against InfusionSoft and all these things. They had a hundred million dollars in funding. We didn't have any money. We were broke. And so we put this thing together. Da, da, da." And they're like, "Now we get customers for free, and then they buy software." And that master story is what sells it to more of like the corporate, like the business owners who think through the world of like investing. So, that's story that I lead... If I talk about potato guns with them, they're lost, right?

So again, it's like, people are like, "But I only have a story." It's like, "No, you have different stories. What are the stories that fit the audience?" Dan Kennedy 101, message to market match. Like how do you connect these things? Right? It's like here's the market I'm talking to. In fact, I think you know this. We bought Doodly.com and we bought like Brad Callen’s whole company. And these people, I didn't realize at the time, I thought they were internet marketers using software to make sales videos. But no, they were actually course creators who don't know anything about marketing. And so I went and did my webinar pitch to these people and it bombed, and it was like the worst thing ever. And I was like, "What?" And it was like, "Oh my gosh. I didn't understand the market." And so I had to change. So we rewrote it, changed the story, changed the thing to match the market we're going after. And now it's converted really well.

But it was like, it's just understanding that in every situation, like figuring out, "Okay, who am I actually speaking to? So there's the market. And what's the message, the story I think I have that's going to match that to then bring them into our world?" Because I'm selling the same product, no matter what, but there's different stories that's going to hit different markets as you go through. You'll probably hear me quote a lot more Dan Kennedy in your future, as I'm going through all his courses again right now, and having the time of my life with it. So...

Josh:

Yeah. Well, it's just interesting, just going back to that one concept of like the first core story, the master story, the backstory of it all. I think one of the big problems that I know I ran into this is, once again, I thought the whole webinar was designed to teach and educate. Like that's when I would introduce and teach it, the whole entire process. But it's not. Like secret one, secret two, secret three are designed to educate on the thing that you introduce in the backstory. Right? And for me, with the people I work with on a pretty consistent basis, it's like they don't understand that either. And so when I go in and I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no. Forget about teaching them about it. You have to teach them what it is, why it's so important."

And I always go back to that story when you were like no one was buying it and then you're like, "Do you understand what I went through then?" I'm like, "That! That's what you're trying to create." It's like forget the framework for it. Forget how it works. Forget why it worked for them. Forget the external objections for a second or whatever. Like what do you have to do that, if you didn't get to do anything like that, how would you convince somebody that this is the most greatest, amazing thing, and then be like, "And just take my word for it that it's going to work for you." Like, what's that story that you would tell?

And for me, once I identified that was what it was, and I started working on my students with that, all the rest of the webinars and find new challenges and everything became easy. Whether it was Catherine Jones when we worked with her, whether it was Brad Gibbon, casual tactics, like all of them, it was like, once we figured out that, then all the rest of the things fell into place.

Russell:

Yeah. It's fascinating because the reason why I bombed when I first started versus why I started studying dance stuff, is that realization of just like, "They haven't bought into the fact that they want to funnel yet or that they want weight loss or whatever the thing is." Like your only goal during the webinar or the challenge or whatever is to convince them that this is the vehicle that's going to be the most likely successful to get up on that mountain and get the result that they've been looking for. Because they've been looking for the result for a long time, right? I think Katlyn said the average woman goes on eight diets a year. Right? So it's like, now that they're like, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to lose weight." It's not like this, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to make money. Oh my gosh, I'm going to..." Like, they already want the result. They tried three or four other things. You're trying to convince them that your presentation or your challenge or whatever is to convince them that of all the different potential opportunities, that your new opportunity is the one that's most likely to get them success. And if they buy into that, then you can take them on the journey.

But you start teaching around the gate. You're trying to take them on this journey, and they're like, "Wait, but there's like 10 other options. I don't think you're the right... I don't even know if you're the right option. I have no idea." So your job and your role is 100% only there to convince them that this is the most likely thing that's going to give them the success they're looking for. And yeah, then you won. Then you can bring them into world. Now you can serve them. Now you can change their life. But until you've sold them on the fact that your vehicle is the one that is most likely to give success, you can't serve them. You can't change their life. You can't do anything. And so that's what we got to become really good at is that transition. So, anyway, so fun.

Josh:

All right. Well, that'll wrap up the story episode there. I think that was really, really good. I think we got a lot accomplished.

Russell:

We should go, another time, or next time you're a voice, we should do like a half-day live with everybody on like the master story. That'd be fascinating to go deeper just on that, without the context of having to have all the rest of the webinar things. I'd love to geek out with you deeper on that. So, there's the thought. If you guys want more of that, you got to let me and Josh know, and maybe next time we're around some UFC fight or some fake YouTube boxing fight, we'll plan something fun like that. Because that’d be really cool to go deep on that.

Josh:

That fake YouTube boxer fight, that's 5 and 0, right? Oh, man. All right.

Russell:

All right. Thanks, you guys, for listening. If you enjoyed this, please let us know. Tag us on social. Tweet us out. Instagram us. YouTube... I don't know. All the different places.

Josh:

Don't tweet us. Russell won't tweet at you. He'll just fake like your tweets. Instagram? Instagram.

Russell:

Tweet at Josh, and then I'll share it.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

My team will share it. Anyhow, let us know. We're enjoying doing these, and hopefully you guys love them as well. And the last way, if you want to help grow this podcast, please just tell other people about it. And yeah, that's all I got. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Josh.

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]]> 2412 no Forti, Funnels, and Football: A World View, Part 1 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/forti-funnels-and-football-a-world-view-part-1 Russell and special guest Josh Forti dive deep into funnels,  storytelling, and building your own reality. Find out how to break free of what’s expected, how to create your own rules, build your own world, and be OK with being different. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I've got two things for you. Number one, I got kind of a cold so if I sound a little funny, that's why. Number two, is you guys loved our last three podcast episodes with Josh Forti, so we thought we should do it again. Today, we jumped on a call and we recorded three more episodes for you, and they've been a lot of fun. The first episode was all about just kind of... It was an interesting conversation, and I think it took us a while to get exactly to the point. But by the end, the end of of it wrapped with some really cool thoughts and ideas and I think some clarifications that'll help you guys a lot. But it was all about I'm in this world of funnels, and how has that affected my world perspective, my world view and, everything else happening around me? And how does that work for you with the thing that you're most passionate and most obsessed with? And so I think you guys will enjoy this conversation. With that said, I'll queue up the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to listen in on a conversation with me and Josh Forti. What's up, everybody? It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. A little while ago, Josh Forti and I did a couple episodes. We've done this three times now technically. This is the fourth, but we did an episode a little while ago, just to see how you guys liked it. And the feedback was amazing. I got tons of good feedback. I think you did as well, right? You saw everyone. Josh Forti: I got tons. I sent you some of them. We convinced somebody to start a podcast over it. Russell: Because of the... Yes. Josh: Because of the podcast. Russell: ... podcast. We are having little podcast babies now because of what happened last time we hung out, and I'm pumped. We're jumping back in. We got three episodes of recording today. I know the title of the topics, but that's about it. I don't know where we're going, the direction, but I'm pumped and excited and just grateful for you, man, doing these. I really enjoyed it last time. I left afterwards pumped and on fire and had a ton of energy, so I'm excited for this. Josh: Heck yeah. That's awesome. Well, are you sick? Russell: Yes. I have a little stuffy nose, so I apologize in advance if I sound... My voice sounds deeper though, so I sound more masculine which is kind of cool. But yeah, definitely got a little bit of a cold. Josh: Oh, man. As long as it's not COVID. Russell: Oh, yeah. No, I did that. We're good. The antibodies are flowing through my body, so I'm pretty good there. Josh: Heck yeah. Russell: Well, what's the plan today? What are we talking about for this episode? Love to get kind of- Josh: Are we doing intros or are we just jumping in? Russell: This is the intro. I'll do intros. Josh: This is it, we're in. We're rocking and rolling. Russell: We're live. Let's go. Josh: All right, all right. Let's dive in. Dude, interestingly enough, as I went back and I started going... By the way, I actually listened to all three of our episodes, even though we did them. I actually went back and listen, because I'm that geeky nerd. I was talking to one of my friends. We were sending VOXs back and forth to each other and he's like, "I just listed to my vox back to you." And I'm like, "I'm glad I'm not the only one that does that." And he's like, "Oh, no, you are the only one. I just did that one time." I'm like, "Crap. Dang it." I go back through it. I listen to VOXs and I listen to podcasts. I'm trying to figure out how I could've made them better. But what's interesting is I wanted to take this one a little bit of a different route today, to kind of kick things off. Because normally, I'd say there's two types of podcasts. There's educational podcasts, which is you're talking on a very specific topic, and you're trying to educate people on that. And then there's entertainment podcasts. Entertainment is much more... Maybe it could be educational still, but it's not designed to educate you on one specific thing, and then break all the beliefs around that thing. And then do the whole perfect webinar thing on a podcast episode. Whatever. But rather, just kind have an open conversation. And I want to open this one up, talking specifically about funnels. And not funnels and how you build them, but I want to know is funnels a worldview for you? And what I mean by that is right now, I'm really, really big into storytelling. That's kind of my thing that I'm geeking out about, is how to tell amazing stories. And I call it the master story. That's the core thing that I'm trying to figure out right now, is the master story for me is what's the one story I got to get people to believe? After they believe that story, they'll do whatever I want them to do. It's the big domino statement of stories. But as I've done that, I've kind of gone out and everything in my life now revolves around stories. I'm like, "Oh, story there, story there. Oh, that's the story? Oh, that's the story." And my whole life now is just everything is stories. Obviously, I'm a huge fan of Expert Secrets and Dotcom Secrets, and you wrote those books and everything like that. You talk about kind of building this world and this identity, and bringing everybody in. And so I'm curious for you, where do funnels play into your life besides just marketing? Is this a worldview? Is this a lens upon which you view the world? Russell: Everything. Yes, for sure it is. It's interesting. I still remember back when I first got in this game, and I was learning marketing, and then I started studying Dan Kennedy's stuff and started... And I remember starting after I got that, some of the initial inputs of this world. What's the Matrix? The red pill or the blue pill. I took the pill and all of a sudden I was like, "Oh, my gosh, I see the world differently." And for me, it was fascinating. I started loving, I became obsessed. In fact, you can ask my wife this. We first got married, we listened to the radio and commercials would come on and she'd want to change. I'm like, "No, no, no. What are they doing? Did they do a good job did, they do a bad job, and how could they have done it better?" I started geeking out on that and I started watching more infomercials. I started watching as you go down the highway and you see the billboards. "Okay. That billboard, did it make me do anything, did it not? Was there a call to action, was there not? If there was, what did... " I'd get my phone out and I call the number and like, "What happened? What was the sales pitch?" And I started seeing behind the curtain of what was happening, and I became obsessed seeing that. And I remember, this is probably a little bit prior to this, but after I started seeing things I started realizing how things made me feel. I remember in high school, I was the wrestler, as you know. and I was into my health and fitness. I didn't understand it back then, but I do remember Bill Phillips had a magazine called Muscle Media. This is probably way before your time. But it was the first muscle building magazine that wasn't... All the other ones were these dudes who were just steroided out. And Muscle Media was the dudes and the ladies in it was who you want to look like. That guys looks amazing. And he had a supplement company called EAS he launched, and so I got into supplements and got into Bill Phillips. I got into his world, where I was reading his magazine articles and buying his supplementsm and it was cool. But I remember I wanted to buy some... I can't remember what the new supplement was. And there was a GNC close to my house.And so I remember jumping my bike, riding down to GNC, being so excited to buy a supplement. And I walked through the door, and as soon as I walked through the door of the GNC, the person came out and was like, "Hey, how can I help you?" And I'm like, “uh…”, and kind of freaked out. I was like, "Oh, I'm just looking." And I got all nervous and then I kind of wandered away, and then it felt like the person was kind of following me and everything. And I remember I came there cause I wanted to buy something, but I felt so uncomfortable, excuse me, that eventually I just snuck out and I left. And I was like, "I didn't get the thing." Because I felt so uncomfortable in the process that even though I came there with my money in hand, ready to buy something, I didn't because I didn't like the process. And I noticed, I don't know if you ever go into a GNC. As soon as you walk in, they always come and they pounce on you. And even to this day when I walk into GNC, it's one of my favorite stores. But I know the initial anxiety of the person pouncing on me asking if I can help them, or what I'm looking for. I'm like, "I don't know what I'm looking for. I want to literally read the back of every label of every bottle here. I'll come to you if I need help, but don't come and pounce on me." And I started realizing that and I started thinking, "If this was my story, how would I have wanted to be approached?" And I started thinking the script. And I started thinking if I came in the door and the person says something like, "Hey, welcome to GNC today. I'm over here. If you need anything, let me know." And it was more of a deflect, I would've felt more comfortable. I would've walked around, then I would've felt comfortable coming back the person. And I just started thinking through that. Anyway, that was before I learned marketing. I remember feeling that way, and as I started studying marketing I was like, "Oh, my gosh. I now know why I felt that way. The script was wrong and the process was wrong." And I started thinking through things more like that. And I'm sure it was annoying for my family. We'd go to a restaurant and I would notice how did the server do things, and what did they say? And it started opening up for me. In fact, my junior year in high school during the summer, I got a serving job and I was serving tables. And I remember, because I would split test different things to see what would give me more tips. If I said this to a person versus this. And I remember in fact, this is a 17 year old kid who's stuck on himself. I'd roll my sleeves. "If my sleeves are rolled up and they see more of my arms, would it be higher?" And literally would split test this thing to try to figure out how to increase them. And it's just weird. That was when I was young, and definitely it's messed me up nowadays, because it's hard for me when I see every ad, everything. I want to go deep into things, and I do sometimes but sometimes it takes me long rabbit holes. I don't know if that answers the question or not. Josh: Okay. Well, I want to kind of dive further down deeper into that, because I want to expand beyond just marketing as well. Because I think any of us as marketers when we have the light bulb turn on, you take the red pill or whatever it is. I remember for me, I had that first experience with money. I grew up in a very small, small, small town. The two towns collectively combined had 750 people in them, and one bank and a gas station. Very, very small world. And then I started learning about money, and I'll never forget the day that it clicked for me. I was actually out in... I had already moved to Nebraska, and I started to realize how money flowed. And I got done reading this book, and I remember I picked up the phone and I called one of my friends who had been teaching me about money. I'm like, "Dude, I get it now. I get everywhere around. I can't not see how money is flowing and where it works." I'm like this, and now I have all these questions about it. And so I totally understand when your lights come on, you start seeing the whole world through that, for that specific thing. But I want to know what about other areas of your life, and how funnels and your viewpoint of funnels has affected that. And what I'm trying to get at and understand, is you talk a lot about in Expert Secrets, we're building this identity, we're building this community, we're building this movement, this calling. And what's interesting for me I've noticed, is that when I first got into this space, I was so new that the preconceived notions of what people should do or should not do did not affect me. Because I didn't know anything. I was like, "I know I'm an idiot." people were like, "You're doing that wrong?" I'm like, "Probably." And there was no ego in the way of it. But then as I grew, I thought there were certain ways that I had to think, or there were certain things that I had to do. And then if I broke free from the mold that everybody else was doing, then somehow that was wrong. And I struggled with that. Thankfully for me, I didn't stay in there. But what helped me get out of it, is I gave myself permission and I literally was like, "I'm doing my own world over here. Everybody else, they can have whatever it is that they want. They can make more money than me, that's fine. I'm building this own little thing." And when I envisioned myself stepping into this world, then I was allowed to make my own rules. And so the rules had to follow everything else, but people would be like, "Josh, it's super weird that you think about everything in marketing." And I'm like, "But that's my world." And so everything about my life, from what I buy, to where I live, to who I hung out with, was all shaped around that. And for a while, that was weird. And whenever I would go to my friends it was like, "You're weird." And I struggled with that. But then once I gave myself kind of permission to be like, "Well, that's just literally how I think. That's my world, and it's okay to be different." That really freed me. And so I'm curious. How has funnels shaped your world outside of only marketing? And what would you tell somebody? Would you tell someone it's okay to like view the world through whatever their new opportunity is, in all aspects of life? Does that make sense? Russell: I think so. It's interesting, because I know you're trying to get outside of marketing, but it's fascinating because in my vision of the world, like everything is marketing. Josh: That's what I'm saying though. That's what I'm saying. Russell: When I meant my wife- Josh: How has that affected relationships? When you are dealing with a problem in your family, do like go like, "What's the funnel for this?" Does that make sense? Russell: How do we craft the story, the pitch, the thing. But it's true, because I think about when I met my wife. When I met her, there were multiple people who... She was the prospect and multiple people all competing for her attention. It was like, "Okay. I've got to create a better offer. I'm not the best looking guy, so I got to... What are the tools I have to increase the value of what I have to be more attractive to her?" And things like that. With my kids right now, it's tough because my kids have got so many distractions and there's things that are way cooler than dad. I'm always trying to think through that lens of, "Okay." Josh: Wait, there's people cooler and Russell Brunson? What? Russell: You could never be a prophet in your hometown, they say. You're never cool to your own kids. But it's tough though, because I'm competing against all of... For my kids, the rappers that are in their ears, and they're listening to all these people who... That part of the world. And they got their friends and they got these... There's so many things we're competing against. It's like, "Okay. Well, how do I take them on this journey to be able to help?" And you talked about universe building, which is true. In fact, I'm working on a project with Dan Kennedy right now, and it's all about that concept of universe building, and things like that. And you look at the big companies that have done it successfully, that's what they did. Walt Disney built this universe. In fact, I've listened to the interviewed me and Dan did on Funnel Hacking Live, and he talked about Walt Disney and Hefner were basically the same business. He's like, "One had bunnies and one had had rabbits or whatever. Or one had mice, one had bunnies." But it's the same business, right? They both had a universe that people came into. And I think about that. We're doing the same thing. You create a universe for your customers. That's a lot of what the Expert Secrets and everything is about, creating this customer universe. But it's true in your office with your team, it's true with your family, it's true with your relationships. You're kind of trying to craft this environment that makes people first off want to be there and to be part of it, and then to persuade people to hopefully get the things you're looking for. All of us are in a persuasion business, even we don't want to admit it. And people are like, "I don't persuade people. I don't manipulate people." But you are. What do you want to eat for dinner tonight? You got to persuade the other person. What movie do you want to go to? Are we going to go out tonight, or are we going to sit home on the couch? You're always in this thing of persuasion. And if you look at any kind of sales environment, is the number one. The biggest, one of the most important things when you're trying to sell somebody something, is the, the environment. The universe that you put them in. It's the reason why if I do a pitch on a virtual event, where somebody is at their own home, in their own environment, and I'm giving them a glimpse in my environment. I can convert and I can sell people. But I do the exact same presentation at Funnel Hacking Live in a room where I control the environment, they're in my universe. My sales were 5-6X, even though it's the exact same presentation, exact same everything because I'm controlling the environment. And so my home, same thing. How do I control this environment, my home? And how do I structure things? And how do we set the same things? You think about in the ClickFunnels ecosystem, we've got these awards. We got the Two Comma Club awards, Two Comma Club X. We have things like that. How do we create these things for people to strive towards inside of our families? Colette and I did that a couple years ago. We were trying to figure out what's our family goals. Do we have a goal? What does that look like? What's something that we can collectively all work towards together? And in the Mormon church, one of the biggest goals is you want to get married in the temple. But to get married in the temple, you have to be living worthily. There's all these things to do. And so as a family, we set a goal. How do you explain it? If my kids get married in the temple, their younger siblings won't be able to go, because they're not old enough to be able to go into the temple to actually witness the marriage. The goal we set as a family, we set a goal of when Nora... Because Nora is the youngest. When Nora gets married, the goal is we'd love her to get married in the temple, and we want all of our family to be there. Which means all of our family has lived in a way where we're worthy to be there together as the family. That became our family goal, and it's this thing we're all shooting towards. And it's fun, because now when I'm having family conversations with my kids, it's like, "Hey, you shouldn't be doing that." It's like, "Hey, these are things that are keeping us away from our family goal." We want to do this thing in 10 years from now, 15 years ago, Nora... But the way you're living, you're not going to be able to do that. And it's less of me trying to tell them what to do, as much as this is the goal we collectively set as a family. This is what we're trying to get to. Same thing in Marketing, we're trying to get the Two Comma Club award, cool. You can go listen to forty other gurus if you want, but this is the path. This is the process. We can get you there, but if you're distracted... It's just kind of a similar thing where, you set the things inside the universe, the goals, the steps. And hopefully, everyone... Not that they will or that they want to. Maybe my kids decide they hate the universe and they want to break out of it, and that can happen, too. People don’t think funnels are cool, because they don't like me. I talk too fast or I'm annoying or whatever, and they enter different a different universe, but that's okay. Josh: Yeah. And I think entering a different universe, I think maybe what I'm trying to get at is I grew up, once again, super small town. Super small world, and I just figured there was a way the world worked. Singular. That's how it worked. And as I've grown up, I was striving to figure that out. I'm like, "What's the way the world works?" And I get out there and I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. There's five million different ways the world works." And depending upon whose world old that you're in. And so I was watching the football game last night. We had it on. It was the Steelers and the Vikings. I don't know. By the way, I know you don't watch football, but I'm going to make a prediction on here for all my football fans out there. Patriots are going to the Super Bowl versus Tom Brady. It's going to be Tom Brady and the Bucks versus Bill Belichick and the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Anyway, we're watching it last night and they have this documentary that's coming out. Do you know who John Madden is? Russell: Yeah. Just from the video game. Josh: Yeah. They have this whole thing on Madden and his whole life. And it's coming out, this documentary, and they do little clips, and there's all these different little people talking about it. And they're like, "This dude, you couldn't be around him and not love football. Because he just exuded football in every aspect of his life. At the dinner table, around his family, around his friends, at the... Football, football, football, football." And it got me thinking, because I'm preparing for this interview last night. And I'm like, "That guy's whole life was football. That's how it came about. He couldn't imagine a reality where football didn't exist. "Yet there's somebody else out. There's millions, billions of people out in this world who they never heard of or think about or want anything to do with football." And so here's a guy where his whole life revolves around football. All of his analogies, all of his stories, all of his strategies, everything was football all. And then I was like, "Oh, I wonder if that's what it's like living with Russell." Everything is funnels. And it's like funnels, funnels, funnels, funnels, funnels. I feel like sometimes as entrepreneurs, I know I struggled with this for a while, and I struggled with this a lot more when I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. When I was still trying to figure out my voice and kind of everything like that. But I'm like, "I just can't be the X guy, because that would be weird. That's not how reality works. That's not how life works. You don't just get to just focus on all of this." But I feel like it is. And I feel like you don't necessarily have to be a single thing guy, but I feel like you can. In the sense of... And that's why I'm trying to get at with you, is I feel like you've gone into this world and you've found the thing that works. And you've said, "Hey, listen, basically, in life you have to know where it is that you're going and how it is that you're going to get there." That's essentially in life, and that's kind of my core premise of everything. I'm like, "I don't care how you live in life." But I'm like, "If you don't know where you're going and how you're going to get there, your life is going to suck. You're not going to have a very fulfilled life." And so I feel like for you, you've figured out, "Okay. Wherever I want to get, this is the vehicle I'm going to use." And you've built an entire reality and universe around that. Yeah? Russell: Yeah, for sure. And it's interesting though, too, because I actually was on a call last night with Stu McLaren at their prediction college here, and he was asking my predictions for the future. And it's interesting because yes, funnels is the thing. It's my lens. And that's what people come to me. It's the lens they come through. But what I think is fascinating, and I see this with... In fact, I told Stu, I'm like, "There's an evolution. People were experts for a while and then they became influencers." And I think the next phase, it won't stick. People will still call themselves influencers, because it sounds cool and they feel the significance of that. But I think the next phase is people are going to become curators more so. Which is someone comes to me for funnels, but it's interesting because my last inner circle meeting, people pay 50 grand to be in the room. There's 100 people in this room and they're here because they want to learn funnels from Russell. We're talking about funnels and then we open for Q&A. And guess how many funnel questions came through? Zero. The questions were, "Russell, I came to you for funnels, but I trust you. I like you." And they didn't say this, but this is what happened, is they wanted to figure out how I curate. They wanted me to curate other thoughts for them. "I trust you in this, therefore what do you think about religion?" And they want me to take all my years of curation of all the ideas like, "This is what I believe." Or they're like, "How is your family successful?" And so they asked me these other questions. And I was telling Stu last night. I'm like, "Stu, you're the membership guy. People come from your memberships. But after they come in, that's what brings them into the door, but then they're coming because they want your curation of other ideas." Dan Usher. I think Dan on our team. It was fascinating, because his favorite band is Rufus or something like that. I don't really know the band that well. But he's obsessed with them and their music, and so he follows them, he loves them and everything. And he just bought his first house out here in Boise, so he needed to get art on the wall. He's like, "Well, I love Rufus. I trust them. They've curated their favorite art." He went and bought everything that Rufus ever said they like for art and put it on his wall. He's like, "Cool. Because I trust them, therefore I want this." And then he bought the furniture that they have in their house, because he trusts their opinion on this and other things. And so I think it's with Madden, I'm sure the football is what brings people in. And they come in there, they sit at the table for that. But then if they like him and they connect with him, then they want to know, "What else do you know?” I want to go down these other rabbit holes with you, because I trust you and I trust your opinion. I trust because you've already kind of done that." I think for me, that's probably more so, is they come in from one thing, but then if they connect with you then they want to dive deep on all the other pieces, the things that you find fascinating. Josh: Yeah. It's almost like they need the in to step into your universe, and then you get to build the rest of the universe out for them simply because you've built trust in that one area. Russell: Yeah. And what's fascinating. If you rewind back in my history 15 years ago, it was tough because when I was trying to create my universe, I didn't know that's what it was called. But it was funny. If you look at the landscape in our industry back then, it was interesting. Jeff Walker was the launch guy, Frank Kern was the mass control guy, Filsaime was the butterfly marketing person. Everyone had a thing where they were the best. Brad Fallon was SEO, and then you had Perry Marshall was PPC, and everyone had their thing. And I came in, I was good at all of this. I'm like, "I'm the guy who do everything." And I'd go to events like, "Cool, what do you do?" I'm like, "What do you need? I'm good at copywriting, and I can do all the things." And people are like, "Oh, okay." But then they'd go and they'd sign up for Jeff for launch. And I'm like, "I can do launch. I've done tons of launches." Or they'd go to whoever for copywriting, John Carlton for copywriting. I'm like, "God, I've done all these things." But there wasn't a thing. It wasn't until I specialize in. "Okay. Funnels is the thing." And it was a narrow focus where people could attach a thing in their head like, "Oh, Russell is the guy who does funnels." And they do that. But they come into the... That's the doorway that brings them into my world. But inside the funnel world, what is there? You can launch a funnel. There's copywriting, there's traffic driving, there's all these other things. But I had to bring them in through a channel they could connect with, they could label me with. You know what I mean? But after they're in my universe, there's all sorts of stuff I can do with him. Josh: I feel like that right there was the core of what I was trying to get after. I think a lot of people struggle with or are afraid to claim their thing, because they're like, "I can't just claim it." Funnels. Russell could claim funnels because that was a thing, but was it a thing before Russell? Was there a funnel... You are the one that came in and nobody came to you and was like, "Russell, you're the funnel guy. Go." You were the one that had to decide that. You were the one that had to come in and be like… Russell: And it's fascinating, because I was the only one back then talking about it. There was a bunch of people. In fact, I remember Todd and I started building ClickFunnels. And I remember about that time it was T&C, so it was the T&C before we launched ClickFunnels. And we got T&C, we were sitting in the audience, and Todd and I are mapping things out, and we're talking back and forth. And the entire T&C, that event was about funnels. And so Ryan was on stage, Perry was on stage talking about funnels they developed. "This is the funnel framework for all funnels." They sold the $18,000 funnel coaching program and half the room signed up, and all this stuff. And I was like, "Oh, my gosh. That's what we're trying to go, but they just took it from us." And then it was crazy. After that T&C, then everyone was talking about funnels. And it was funny, because the next week everyone became a funnel consultant. All of a sudden, 2,000 little funnel consultants were running around the internet talking about funnels. And I remember Mike Filsaime had done something showing behind the scenes of one of his funnels, and I remember somebody else got mad. I'm like, "We're the funnel person. You shouldn't be talking about this us." And I remember Mike and him were fighting back and forth. I was kind of watching this and I was like, "We have this software coming out called ClickFunnels. And I have this book I'm writing that's almost done called Dotcom Secrets, which is all about funnels." And so I was stepping in this thing where there was a whole bunch of noise around this topic, and I could have been like, "Who am I? I'm not qualified." Whatever. But instead I was like, "You know what? This is what I'm obsessed with. And I'm just going to do my thing, and I don't care about everybody else." And so I just did my thing and came out there, and there were people who... I can't tell the actual stories, but there were people who were upset. "You shouldn't be talking about this, Russel. This is so and so's thing." And then at TNC the next year, there was some weird comments from stage made about stuff. Because in fact, somebody said from stage, "Because of what we talked about last year at T&C, Russell created ClickFunnels because of us." And they gave them credit for this thing. And it was just this craziness. But man, we were the only ones who took it and that were consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent. I'm seven, almost eight years into the consistency, which is how you define the path. That's how you get the... You look at Jeff Walker, who's been talking about product launches for 20 years. Therefore, he's the product launch guy. People try to come dethrone him, but he's been consistently talking about the same thing for so long that you can't. And so the biggest thing is picking the platform, and then you just triple down on it and you keep doing it, and doing it, and doing it. And eventually, you will rise the Victor. But most people don't have the longterm, the patients to keep just drilling in for long enough to make it stick. Josh: Yeah. And I think that a lot of times, at least in my experience, and it could be different for other people. But a lot of times, it's because you're just not confident enough in it. The only thing that's going to be the difference of whether or not it's going to stick or not, is whether or not you're confident enough to follow through. That's not necessarily true for every single product universally. Sometimes the market doesn't fit, and sometimes there really is... If you tried to launch a competitor to iPhone right now, you're probably not going to make it. But generally speaking, especially in our world with funnels and experts and a lot of online influencer marketing and things of that nature. It's basically whoever sticks at it the longest and then creates the clearest, simplest stories, the clearest, simplest frameworks, and the easiest way for people to be able to get results with it, are the ones that are actually going to make it and follow through. Russell: Yeah. That’s the game, and it’s so much fun. Josh: All right. Well, I'm ready to move onto topic number two here. We're about at time. Russell: All right. Josh: You ready to rock and roll? Russell: We'll wrap it up. Thank you guys for listening. If you enjoyed this, let us know. Otherwise, we'll never do this again, so if you loved it, tag me and Josh on Facebook, Instagram, wherever you guys do stuff. If you tweet, I probably won't see it there, but tweet it up and let us know, and we'll come back and do some more of this stuff. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 Dec 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Forti, Funnels, and Football: A World View, Part 1 full 474 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell and special guest Josh Forti dive deep into funnels,  storytelling, and building your own reality. Find out how to break free of what’s expected, how to create your own rules, build your own world, and be OK with being different. Hit me... Russell and special guest Josh Forti dive deep into funnels,  storytelling, and building your own reality. Find out how to break free of what’s expected, how to create your own rules, build your own world, and be OK with being different. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I've got two things for you. Number one, I got kind of a cold so if I sound a little funny, that's why. Number two, is you guys loved our last three podcast episodes with Josh Forti, so we thought we should do it again. Today, we jumped on a call and we recorded three more episodes for you, and they've been a lot of fun. The first episode was all about just kind of... It was an interesting conversation, and I think it took us a while to get exactly to the point. But by the end, the end of of it wrapped with some really cool thoughts and ideas and I think some clarifications that'll help you guys a lot. But it was all about I'm in this world of funnels, and how has that affected my world perspective, my world view and, everything else happening around me? And how does that work for you with the thing that you're most passionate and most obsessed with? And so I think you guys will enjoy this conversation. With that said, I'll queue up the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to listen in on a conversation with me and Josh Forti. What's up, everybody? It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. A little while ago, Josh Forti and I did a couple episodes. We've done this three times now technically. This is the fourth, but we did an episode a little while ago, just to see how you guys liked it. And the feedback was amazing. I got tons of good feedback. I think you did as well, right? You saw everyone. Josh Forti: I got tons. I sent you some of them. We convinced somebody to start a podcast over it. Russell: Because of the... Yes. Josh: Because of the podcast. Russell: ... podcast. We are having little podcast babies now because of what happened last time we hung out, and I'm pumped. We're jumping back in. We got three episodes of recording today. I know the title of the topics, but that's about it. I don't know where we're going, the direction, but I'm pumped and excited and just grateful for you, man, doing these. I really enjoyed it last time. I left afterwards pumped and on fire and had a ton of energy, so I'm excited for this. Josh: Heck yeah. That's awesome. Well, are you sick? Russell: Yes. I have a little stuffy nose, so I apologize in advance if I sound... My voice sounds deeper though, so I sound more masculine which is kind of cool. But yeah, definitely got a little bit of a cold. Josh: Oh, man. As long as it's not COVID. Russell: Oh, yeah. No, I did that. We're good. The antibodies are flowing through my body, so I'm pretty good there. Josh: Heck yeah. Russell: Well, what's the plan today? What are we talking about for this episode? Love to get kind of- Josh: Are we doing intros or are we just jumping in? Russell: This is the intro. I'll do intros. Josh: This is it, we're in. We're rocking and rolling. Russell: We're live. Let's go. Josh: All right, all right. Let's dive in. Dude, interestingly enough, as I went back and I started going... By the way, I actually listened to all three of our episodes, even though we did them. I actually went back and listen, because I'm that geeky nerd. I was talking to one of my friends. We were sending VOXs back and forth to each other and he's like, "I just listed to my vox back to you." And I'm like, "I'm glad I'm not the only one that does that." And he's like, "Oh, no, you are the only one. I just did that one time." I'm like, "Crap. Dang it." I go back through it. I listen to VOXs and I listen to podcasts. I'm trying to figure out how I could've made them better. But what's interesting is I wanted to take this one a little bit of a different route today, to kind of kick things off. Because normally, I'd say there's two types of podcasts. There's educational podcasts, which is you're talking on a very specific topic, and you're trying to educate people on that. And then there's entertainment podcasts. Entertainment is much more... Maybe it could be educational still, but it's not designed to educate you on one specific thing, and then break all the beliefs around that thing. And then do the whole perfect webinar thing on a podcast episode. Whatever. But rather, just kind have an open conversation. And I want to open this one up, talking specifically about funnels. And not funnels and how you build them, but I want to know is funnels a worldview for you? And what I mean by that is right now, I'm really, really big into storytelling. That's kind of my thing that I'm geeking out about, is how to tell amazing stories. And I call it the master story. That's the core thing that I'm trying to figure out right now, is the master story for me is what's the one story I got to get people to believe? After they believe that story, they'll do whatever I want them to do. It's the big domino statement of stories. But as I've done that, I've kind of gone out and everything in my life now revolves around stories. I'm like, "Oh, story there, story there. Oh, that's the story? Oh, that's the story." And my whole life now is just everything is stories. Obviously, I'm a huge fan of Expert Secrets and Dotcom Secrets, and you wrote those books and everything like that. You talk about kind of building this world and this identity, and bringing everybody in. And so I'm curious for you, where do funnels play into your life besides just marketing? Is this a worldview? Is this a lens upon which you view the world? Russell: Everything. Yes, for sure it is. It's interesting. I still remember back when I first got in this game, and I was learning marketing, and then I started studying Dan Kennedy's stuff and started... And I remember starting after I got that, some of the initial inputs of this world. What's the Matrix? The red pill or the blue pill. I took the pill and all of a sudden I was like, "Oh, my gosh, I see the world differently." And for me, it was fascinating. I started loving, I became obsessed. In fact, you can ask my wife this. We first got married, we listened to the radio and commercials would come on and she'd want to change. I'm like, "No, no, no. What are they doing? Did they do a good job did, they do a bad job, and how could they have done it better?" I started geeking out on that and I started watching more infomercials. I started watching as you go down the highway and you see the billboards. "Okay. That billboard, did it make me do anything, did it not? Was there a call to action, was there not? If there was, what did... " I'd get my phone out and I call the number and like, "What happened? What was the sales pitch?" And I started seeing behind the curtain of what was happening, and I became obsessed seeing that. And I remember, this is probably a little bit prior to this, but after I started seeing things I started realizing how things made me feel. I remember in high school, I was the wrestler, as you know. and I was into my health and fitness. I didn't understand it back then, but I do remember Bill Phillips had a magazine called Muscle Media. This is probably way before your time. But it was the first muscle building magazine that wasn't... All the other ones were these dudes who were just steroided out. And Muscle Media was the dudes and the ladies in it was who you want to look like. That guys looks amazing. And he had a supplement company called EAS he launched, and so I got into supplements and got into Bill Phillips. I got into his world, where I was reading his magazine articles and buying his supplementsm and it was cool. But I remember I wanted to buy some... I can't remember what the new supplement was. And there was a GNC close to my house.And so I remember jumping my bike, riding down to GNC, being so excited to buy a supplement. And I walked through the door, and as soon as I walked through the door of the GNC, the person came out and was like, "Hey, how can I help you?" And I'm like, “uh…”, and kind of freaked out. I was like, "Oh, I'm just looking." And I got all nervous and then I kind of wandered away, and then it felt like the person was kind of following me and everything. And I remember I came there cause I wanted to buy something, but I felt so uncomfortable, excuse me, that eventually I just snuck out and I left. And I was like, "I didn't get the thing." Because I felt so uncomfortable in the process that even though I came there with my money in hand, ready to buy something, I didn't because I didn't like the process. And I noticed, I don't know if you ever go into a GNC. As soon as you walk in, they always come and they pounce on you. And even to this day when I walk into GNC, it's one of my favorite stores. But I know the initial anxiety of the person pouncing on me asking if I can help them, or what I'm looking for. I'm like, "I don't know what I'm looking for. I want to literally read the back of every label of every bottle here. I'll come to you if I need help, but don't come and pounce on me." And I started realizing that and I started thinking, "If this was my story, how would I have wanted to be approached?" And I started thinking the script. And I started thinking if I came in the door and the person says something like, "Hey, welcome to GNC today. I'm over here. If you need anything, let me know." And it was more of a deflect, I would've felt more comfortable. I would've walked around, then I would've felt comfortable coming back the person. And I just started thinking through that. Anyway, that was before I learned marketing. I remember feeling that way, and as I started studying marketing I was like, "Oh, my gosh. I now know why I felt that way. The script was wrong and the process was wrong." And I started thinking through things more like that. And I'm sure it was annoying for my family. We'd go to a restaurant and I would notice how did the server do things, and what did they say? And it started opening up for me. In fact, my junior year in high school during the summer, I got a serving job and I was serving tables. And I remember, because I would split test different things to see what would give me more tips. If I said this to a person versus this. And I remember in fact, this is a 17 year old kid who's stuck on himself. I'd roll my sleeves. "If my sleeves are rolled up and they see more of my arms, would it be higher?" And literally would split test this thing to try to figure out how to increase them. And it's just weird. That was when I was young, and definitely it's messed me up nowadays, because it's hard for me when I see every ad, everything. I want to go deep into things, and I do sometimes but sometimes it takes me long rabbit holes. I don't know if that answers the question or not. Josh: Okay. Well, I want to kind of dive further down deeper into that, because I want to expand beyond just marketing as well. Because I think any of us as marketers when we have the light bulb turn on, you take the red pill or whatever it is. I remember for me, I had that first experience with money. I grew up in a very small, small, small town. The two towns collectively combined had 750 people in them, and one bank and a gas station. Very, very small world. And then I started learning about money, and I'll never forget the day that it clicked for me. I was actually out in... I had already moved to Nebraska, and I started to realize how money flowed. And I got done reading this book, and I remember I picked up the phone and I called one of my friends who had been teaching me about money. I'm like, "Dude, I get it now. I get everywhere around. I can't not see how money is flowing and where it works." I'm like this, and now I have all these questions about it. And so I totally understand when your lights come on, you start seeing the whole world through that, for that specific thing. But I want to know what about other areas of your life, and how funnels and your viewpoint of funnels has affected that. And what I'm trying to get at and understand, is you talk a lot about in Expert Secrets, we're building this identity, we're building this community, we're building this movement, this calling. And what's interesting for me I've noticed, is that when I first got into this space, I was so new that the preconceived notions of what people should do or should not do did not affect me. Because I didn't know anything. I was like, "I know I'm an idiot." people were like, "You're doing that wrong?" I'm like, "Probably." And there was no ego in the way of it. But then as I grew, I thought there were certain ways that I had to think, or there were certain things that I had to do. And then if I broke free from the mold that everybody else was doing, then somehow that was wrong. And I struggled with that. Thankfully for me, I didn't stay in there. But what helped me get out of it, is I gave myself permission and I literally was like, "I'm doing my own world over here. Everybody else, they can have whatever it is that they want. They can make more money than me, that's fine. I'm building this own little thing." And when I envisioned myself stepping into this world, then I was allowed to make my own rules. And so the rules had to follow everything else, but people would be like, "Josh, it's super weird that you think about everything in marketing." And I'm like, "But that's my world." And so everything about my life, from what I buy, to where I live, to who I hung out with, was all shaped around that. And for a while, that was weird. And whenever I would go to my friends it was like, "You're weird." And I struggled with that. But then once I gave myself kind of permission to be like, "Well, that's just literally how I think. That's my world, and it's okay to be different." That really freed me. And so I'm curious. How has funnels shaped your world outside of only marketing? And what would you tell somebody? Would you tell someone it's okay to like view the world through whatever their new opportunity is, in all aspects of life? Does that make sense? Russell: I think so. It's interesting, because I know you're trying to get outside of marketing, but it's fascinating because in my vision of the world, like everything is marketing. Josh: That's what I'm saying though. That's what I'm saying. Russell: When I meant my wife- Josh: How has that affected relationships? When you are dealing with a problem in your family, do like go like, "What's the funnel for this?" Does that make sense? Russell: How do we craft the story, the pitch, the thing. But it's true, because I think about when I met my wife. When I met her, there were multiple people who... She was the prospect and multiple people all competing for her attention. It was like, "Okay. I've got to create a better offer. I'm not the best looking guy, so I got to... What are the tools I have to increase the value of what I have to be more attractive to her?" And things like that. With my kids right now, it's tough because my kids have got so many distractions and there's things that are way cooler than dad. I'm always trying to think through that lens of, "Okay." Josh: Wait, there's people cooler and Russell Brunson? What? Russell: You could never be a prophet in your hometown, they say. You're never cool to your own kids. But it's tough though, because I'm competing against all of... For my kids, the rappers that are in their ears, and they're listening to all these people who... That part of the world. And they got their friends and they got these... There's so many things we're competing against. It's like, "Okay. Well, how do I take them on this journey to be able to help?" And you talked about universe building, which is true. In fact, I'm working on a project with Dan Kennedy right now, and it's all about that concept of universe building, and things like that. And you look at the big companies that have done it successfully, that's what they did. Walt Disney built this universe. In fact, I've listened to the interviewed me and Dan did on Funnel Hacking Live, and he talked about Walt Disney and Hefner were basically the same business. He's like, "One had bunnies and one had had rabbits or whatever. Or one had mice, one had bunnies." But it's the same business, right? They both had a universe that people came into. And I think about that. We're doing the same thing. You create a universe for your customers. That's a lot of what the Expert Secrets and everything is about, creating this customer universe. But it's true in your office with your team, it's true with your family, it's true with your relationships. You're kind of trying to craft this environment that makes people first off want to be there and to be part of it, and then to persuade people to hopefully get the things you're looking for. All of us are in a persuasion business, even we don't want to admit it. And people are like, "I don't persuade people. I don't manipulate people." But you are. What do you want to eat for dinner tonight? You got to persuade the other person. What movie do you want to go to? Are we going to go out tonight, or are we going to sit home on the couch? You're always in this thing of persuasion. And if you look at any kind of sales environment, is the number one. The biggest, one of the most important things when you're trying to sell somebody something, is the, the environment. The universe that you put them in. It's the reason why if I do a pitch on a virtual event, where somebody is at their own home, in their own environment, and I'm giving them a glimpse in my environment. I can convert and I can sell people. But I do the exact same presentation at Funnel Hacking Live in a room where I control the environment, they're in my universe. My sales were 5-6X, even though it's the exact same presentation, exact same everything because I'm controlling the environment. And so my home, same thing. How do I control this environment, my home? And how do I structure things? And how do we set the same things? You think about in the ClickFunnels ecosystem, we've got these awards. We got the Two Comma Club awards, Two Comma Club X. We have things like that. How do we create these things for people to strive towards inside of our families? Colette and I did that a couple years ago. We were trying to figure out what's our family goals. Do we have a goal? What does that look like? What's something that we can collectively all work towards together? And in the Mormon church, one of the biggest goals is you want to get married in the temple. But to get married in the temple, you have to be living worthily. There's all these things to do. And so as a family, we set a goal. How do you explain it? If my kids get married in the temple, their younger siblings won't be able to go, because they're not old enough to be able to go into the temple to actually witness the marriage. The goal we set as a family, we set a goal of when Nora... Because Nora is the youngest. When Nora gets married, the goal is we'd love her to get married in the temple, and we want all of our family to be there. Which means all of our family has lived in a way where we're worthy to be there together as the family. That became our family goal, and it's this thing we're all shooting towards. And it's fun, because now when I'm having family conversations with my kids, it's like, "Hey, you shouldn't be doing that." It's like, "Hey, these are things that are keeping us away from our family goal." We want to do this thing in 10 years from now, 15 years ago, Nora... But the way you're living, you're not going to be able to do that. And it's less of me trying to tell them what to do, as much as this is the goal we collectively set as a family. This is what we're trying to get to. Same thing in Marketing, we're trying to get the Two Comma Club award, cool. You can go listen to forty other gurus if you want, but this is the path. This is the process. We can get you there, but if you're distracted... It's just kind of a similar thing where, you set the things inside the universe, the goals, the steps. And hopefully, everyone... Not that they will or that they want to. Maybe my kids decide they hate the universe and they want to break out of it, and that can happen, too. People don’t think funnels are cool, because they don't like me. I talk too fast or I'm annoying or whatever, and they enter different a different universe, but that's okay. Josh: Yeah. And I think entering a different universe, I think maybe what I'm trying to get at is I grew up, once again, super small town. Super small world, and I just figured there was a way the world worked. Singular. That's how it worked. And as I've grown up, I was striving to figure that out. I'm like, "What's the way the world works?" And I get out there and I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. There's five million different ways the world works." And depending upon whose world old that you're in. And so I was watching the football game last night. We had it on. It was the Steelers and the Vikings. I don't know. By the way, I know you don't watch football, but I'm going to make a prediction on here for all my football fans out there. Patriots are going to the Super Bowl versus Tom Brady. It's going to be Tom Brady and the Bucks versus Bill Belichick and the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Anyway, we're watching it last night and they have this documentary that's coming out. Do you know who John Madden is? Russell: Yeah. Just from the video game. Josh: Yeah. They have this whole thing on Madden and his whole life. And it's coming out, this documentary, and they do little clips, and there's all these different little people talking about it. And they're like, "This dude, you couldn't be around him and not love football. Because he just exuded football in every aspect of his life. At the dinner table, around his family, around his friends, at the... Football, football, football, football." And it got me thinking, because I'm preparing for this interview last night. And I'm like, "That guy's whole life was football. That's how it came about. He couldn't imagine a reality where football didn't exist. "Yet there's somebody else out. There's millions, billions of people out in this world who they never heard of or think about or want anything to do with football." And so here's a guy where his whole life revolves around football. All of his analogies, all of his stories, all of his strategies, everything was football all. And then I was like, "Oh, I wonder if that's what it's like living with Russell." Everything is funnels. And it's like funnels, funnels, funnels, funnels, funnels. I feel like sometimes as entrepreneurs, I know I struggled with this for a while, and I struggled with this a lot more when I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. When I was still trying to figure out my voice and kind of everything like that. But I'm like, "I just can't be the X guy, because that would be weird. That's not how reality works. That's not how life works. You don't just get to just focus on all of this." But I feel like it is. And I feel like you don't necessarily have to be a single thing guy, but I feel like you can. In the sense of... And that's why I'm trying to get at with you, is I feel like you've gone into this world and you've found the thing that works. And you've said, "Hey, listen, basically, in life you have to know where it is that you're going and how it is that you're going to get there." That's essentially in life, and that's kind of my core premise of everything. I'm like, "I don't care how you live in life." But I'm like, "If you don't know where you're going and how you're going to get there, your life is going to suck. You're not going to have a very fulfilled life." And so I feel like for you, you've figured out, "Okay. Wherever I want to get, this is the vehicle I'm going to use." And you've built an entire reality and universe around that. Yeah? Russell: Yeah, for sure. And it's interesting though, too, because I actually was on a call last night with Stu McLaren at their prediction college here, and he was asking my predictions for the future. And it's interesting because yes, funnels is the thing. It's my lens. And that's what people come to me. It's the lens they come through. But what I think is fascinating, and I see this with... In fact, I told Stu, I'm like, "There's an evolution. People were experts for a while and then they became influencers." And I think the next phase, it won't stick. People will still call themselves influencers, because it sounds cool and they feel the significance of that. But I think the next phase is people are going to become curators more so. Which is someone comes to me for funnels, but it's interesting because my last inner circle meeting, people pay 50 grand to be in the room. There's 100 people in this room and they're here because they want to learn funnels from Russell. We're talking about funnels and then we open for Q&A. And guess how many funnel questions came through? Zero. The questions were, "Russell, I came to you for funnels, but I trust you. I like you." And they didn't say this, but this is what happened, is they wanted to figure out how I curate. They wanted me to curate other thoughts for them. "I trust you in this, therefore what do you think about religion?" And they want me to take all my years of curation of all the ideas like, "This is what I believe." Or they're like, "How is your family successful?" And so they asked me these other questions. And I was telling Stu last night. I'm like, "Stu, you're the membership guy. People come from your memberships. But after they come in, that's what brings them into the door, but then they're coming because they want your curation of other ideas." Dan Usher. I think Dan on our team. It was fascinating, because his favorite band is Rufus or something like that. I don't really know the band that well. But he's obsessed with them and their music, and so he follows them, he loves them and everything. And he just bought his first house out here in Boise, so he needed to get art on the wall. He's like, "Well, I love Rufus. I trust them. They've curated their favorite art." He went and bought everything that Rufus ever said they like for art and put it on his wall. He's like, "Cool. Because I trust them, therefore I want this." And then he bought the furniture that they have in their house, because he trusts their opinion on this and other things. And so I think it's with Madden, I'm sure the football is what brings people in. And they come in there, they sit at the table for that. But then if they like him and they connect with him, then they want to know, "What else do you know?” I want to go down these other rabbit holes with you, because I trust you and I trust your opinion. I trust because you've already kind of done that." I think for me, that's probably more so, is they come in from one thing, but then if they connect with you then they want to dive deep on all the other pieces, the things that you find fascinating. Josh: Yeah. It's almost like they need the in to step into your universe, and then you get to build the rest of the universe out for them simply because you've built trust in that one area. Russell: Yeah. And what's fascinating. If you rewind back in my history 15 years ago, it was tough because when I was trying to create my universe, I didn't know that's what it was called. But it was funny. If you look at the landscape in our industry back then, it was interesting. Jeff Walker was the launch guy, Frank Kern was the mass control guy, Filsaime was the butterfly marketing person. Everyone had a thing where they were the best. Brad Fallon was SEO, and then you had Perry Marshall was PPC, and everyone had their thing. And I came in, I was good at all of this. I'm like, "I'm the guy who do everything." And I'd go to events like, "Cool, what do you do?" I'm like, "What do you need? I'm good at copywriting, and I can do all the things." And people are like, "Oh, okay." But then they'd go and they'd sign up for Jeff for launch. And I'm like, "I can do launch. I've done tons of launches." Or they'd go to whoever for copywriting, John Carlton for copywriting. I'm like, "God, I've done all these things." But there wasn't a thing. It wasn't until I specialize in. "Okay. Funnels is the thing." And it was a narrow focus where people could attach a thing in their head like, "Oh, Russell is the guy who does funnels." And they do that. But they come into the... That's the doorway that brings them into my world. But inside the funnel world, what is there? You can launch a funnel. There's copywriting, there's traffic driving, there's all these other things. But I had to bring them in through a channel they could connect with, they could label me with. You know what I mean? But after they're in my universe, there's all sorts of stuff I can do with him. Josh: I feel like that right there was the core of what I was trying to get after. I think a lot of people struggle with or are afraid to claim their thing, because they're like, "I can't just claim it." Funnels. Russell could claim funnels because that was a thing, but was it a thing before Russell? Was there a funnel... You are the one that came in and nobody came to you and was like, "Russell, you're the funnel guy. Go." You were the one that had to decide that. You were the one that had to come in and be like… Russell: And it's fascinating, because I was the only one back then talking about it. There was a bunch of people. In fact, I remember Todd and I started building ClickFunnels. And I remember about that time it was T&C, so it was the T&C before we launched ClickFunnels. And we got T&C, we were sitting in the audience, and Todd and I are mapping things out, and we're talking back and forth. And the entire T&C, that event was about funnels. And so Ryan was on stage, Perry was on stage talking about funnels they developed. "This is the funnel framework for all funnels." They sold the $18,000 funnel coaching program and half the room signed up, and all this stuff. And I was like, "Oh, my gosh. That's what we're trying to go, but they just took it from us." And then it was crazy. After that T&C, then everyone was talking about funnels. And it was funny, because the next week everyone became a funnel consultant. All of a sudden, 2,000 little funnel consultants were running around the internet talking about funnels. And I remember Mike Filsaime had done something showing behind the scenes of one of his funnels, and I remember somebody else got mad. I'm like, "We're the funnel person. You shouldn't be talking about this us." And I remember Mike and him were fighting back and forth. I was kind of watching this and I was like, "We have this software coming out called ClickFunnels. And I have this book I'm writing that's almost done called Dotcom Secrets, which is all about funnels." And so I was stepping in this thing where there was a whole bunch of noise around this topic, and I could have been like, "Who am I? I'm not qualified." Whatever. But instead I was like, "You know what? This is what I'm obsessed with. And I'm just going to do my thing, and I don't care about everybody else." And so I just did my thing and came out there, and there were people who... I can't tell the actual stories, but there were people who were upset. "You shouldn't be talking about this, Russel. This is so and so's thing." And then at TNC the next year, there was some weird comments from stage made about stuff. Because in fact, somebody said from stage, "Because of what we talked about last year at T&C, Russell created ClickFunnels because of us." And they gave them credit for this thing. And it was just this craziness. But man, we were the only ones who took it and that were consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent. I'm seven, almost eight years into the consistency, which is how you define the path. That's how you get the... You look at Jeff Walker, who's been talking about product launches for 20 years. Therefore, he's the product launch guy. People try to come dethrone him, but he's been consistently talking about the same thing for so long that you can't. And so the biggest thing is picking the platform, and then you just triple down on it and you keep doing it, and doing it, and doing it. And eventually, you will rise the Victor. But most people don't have the longterm, the patients to keep just drilling in for long enough to make it stick. Josh: Yeah. And I think that a lot of times, at least in my experience, and it could be different for other people. But a lot of times, it's because you're just not confident enough in it. The only thing that's going to be the difference of whether or not it's going to stick or not, is whether or not you're confident enough to follow through. That's not necessarily true for every single product universally. Sometimes the market doesn't fit, and sometimes there really is... If you tried to launch a competitor to iPhone right now, you're probably not going to make it. But generally speaking, especially in our world with funnels and experts and a lot of online influencer marketing and things of that nature. It's basically whoever sticks at it the longest and then creates the clearest, simplest stories, the clearest, simplest frameworks, and the easiest way for people to be able to get results with it, are the ones that are actually going to make it and follow through. Russell: Yeah. That’s the game, and it’s so much fun. Josh: All right. Well, I'm ready to move onto topic number two here. We're about at time. Russell: All right. Josh: You ready to rock and roll? Russell: We'll wrap it up. Thank you guys for listening. If you enjoyed this, let us know. Otherwise, we'll never do this again, so if you loved it, tag me and Josh on Facebook, Instagram, wherever you guys do stuff. If you tweet, I probably won't see it there, but tweet it up and let us know, and we'll come back and do some more of this stuff. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell and special guest Josh Forti dive deep into funnels,  storytelling, and building your own reality. Find out how to break free of what’s expected, how to create your own rules, build your own world, and be OK with being different.

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Russell Brunson:

What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I've got two things for you. Number one, I got kind of a cold so if I sound a little funny, that's why.

Number two, is you guys loved our last three podcast episodes with Josh Forti, so we thought we should do it again. Today, we jumped on a call and we recorded three more episodes for you, and they've been a lot of fun.

The first episode was all about just kind of... It was an interesting conversation, and I think it took us a while to get exactly to the point. But by the end, the end of of it wrapped with some really cool thoughts and ideas and I think some clarifications that'll help you guys a lot.

But it was all about I'm in this world of funnels, and how has that affected my world perspective, my world view and, everything else happening around me? And how does that work for you with the thing that you're most passionate and most obsessed with?

And so I think you guys will enjoy this conversation. With that said, I'll queue up the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to listen in on a conversation with me and Josh Forti.

What's up, everybody? It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. A little while ago, Josh Forti and I did a couple episodes.

We've done this three times now technically. This is the fourth, but we did an episode a little while ago, just to see how you guys liked it. And the feedback was amazing. I got tons of good feedback. I think you did as well, right? You saw everyone.

Josh Forti:

I got tons. I sent you some of them. We convinced somebody to start a podcast over it.

Russell:

Because of the... Yes.

Josh:

Because of the podcast.

Russell:

... podcast. We are having little podcast babies now because of what happened last time we hung out, and I'm pumped. We're jumping back in. We got three episodes of recording today.

I know the title of the topics, but that's about it. I don't know where we're going, the direction, but I'm pumped and excited and just grateful for you, man, doing these. I really enjoyed it last time. I left afterwards pumped and on fire and had a ton of energy, so I'm excited for this.

Josh:

Heck yeah. That's awesome. Well, are you sick?

Russell:

Yes. I have a little stuffy nose, so I apologize in advance if I sound... My voice sounds deeper though, so I sound more masculine which is kind of cool. But yeah, definitely got a little bit of a cold.

Josh:

Oh, man. As long as it's not COVID.

Russell:

Oh, yeah. No, I did that. We're good. The antibodies are flowing through my body, so I'm pretty good there.

Josh:

Heck yeah.

Russell:

Well, what's the plan today? What are we talking about for this episode? Love to get kind of-

Josh:

Are we doing intros or are we just jumping in?

Russell:

This is the intro. I'll do intros.

Josh:

This is it, we're in. We're rocking and rolling.

Russell:

We're live. Let's go.

Josh:

All right, all right. Let's dive in. Dude, interestingly enough, as I went back and I started going... By the way, I actually listened to all three of our episodes, even though we did them. I actually went back and listen, because I'm that geeky nerd.

I was talking to one of my friends. We were sending VOXs back and forth to each other and he's like, "I just listed to my vox back to you." And I'm like, "I'm glad I'm not the only one that does that."

And he's like, "Oh, no, you are the only one. I just did that one time." I'm like, "Crap. Dang it." I go back through it. I listen to VOXs and I listen to podcasts. I'm trying to figure out how I could've made them better.

But what's interesting is I wanted to take this one a little bit of a different route today, to kind of kick things off. Because normally, I'd say there's two types of podcasts.

There's educational podcasts, which is you're talking on a very specific topic, and you're trying to educate people on that.

And then there's entertainment podcasts. Entertainment is much more... Maybe it could be educational still, but it's not designed to educate you on one specific thing, and then break all the beliefs around that thing. And then do the whole perfect webinar thing on a podcast episode. Whatever.

But rather, just kind have an open conversation. And I want to open this one up, talking specifically about funnels. And not funnels and how you build them, but I want to know is funnels a worldview for you?

And what I mean by that is right now, I'm really, really big into storytelling. That's kind of my thing that I'm geeking out about, is how to tell amazing stories.

And I call it the master story. That's the core thing that I'm trying to figure out right now, is the master story for me is what's the one story I got to get people to believe? After they believe that story, they'll do whatever I want them to do. It's the big domino statement of stories.

But as I've done that, I've kind of gone out and everything in my life now revolves around stories. I'm like, "Oh, story there, story there. Oh, that's the story? Oh, that's the story." And my whole life now is just everything is stories.

Obviously, I'm a huge fan of Expert Secrets and Dotcom Secrets, and you wrote those books and everything like that. You talk about kind of building this world and this identity, and bringing everybody in.

And so I'm curious for you, where do funnels play into your life besides just marketing? Is this a worldview? Is this a lens upon which you view the world?

Russell:

Everything. Yes, for sure it is. It's interesting. I still remember back when I first got in this game, and I was learning marketing, and then I started studying Dan Kennedy's stuff and started...

And I remember starting after I got that, some of the initial inputs of this world. What's the Matrix? The red pill or the blue pill. I took the pill and all of a sudden I was like, "Oh, my gosh, I see the world differently."

And for me, it was fascinating. I started loving, I became obsessed. In fact, you can ask my wife this. We first got married, we listened to the radio and commercials would come on and she'd want to change. I'm like, "No, no, no. What are they doing? Did they do a good job did, they do a bad job, and how could they have done it better?"

I started geeking out on that and I started watching more infomercials. I started watching as you go down the highway and you see the billboards. "Okay. That billboard, did it make me do anything, did it not? Was there a call to action, was there not? If there was, what did... "

I'd get my phone out and I call the number and like, "What happened? What was the sales pitch?" And I started seeing behind the curtain of what was happening, and I became obsessed seeing that.

And I remember, this is probably a little bit prior to this, but after I started seeing things I started realizing how things made me feel.

I remember in high school, I was the wrestler, as you know. and I was into my health and fitness. I didn't understand it back then, but I do remember Bill Phillips had a magazine called Muscle Media.

This is probably way before your time. But it was the first muscle building magazine that wasn't... All the other ones were these dudes who were just steroided out. And Muscle Media was the dudes and the ladies in it was who you want to look like. That guys looks amazing.

And he had a supplement company called EAS he launched, and so I got into supplements and got into Bill Phillips. I got into his world, where I was reading his magazine articles and buying his supplementsm and it was cool.

But I remember I wanted to buy some... I can't remember what the new supplement was. And there was a GNC close to my house.And so I remember jumping my bike, riding down to GNC, being so excited to buy a supplement.

And I walked through the door, and as soon as I walked through the door of the GNC, the person came out and was like, "Hey, how can I help you?"

And I'm like, “uh…”, and kind of freaked out. I was like, "Oh, I'm just looking." And I got all nervous and then I kind of wandered away, and then it felt like the person was kind of following me and everything.

And I remember I came there cause I wanted to buy something, but I felt so uncomfortable, excuse me, that eventually I just snuck out and I left. And I was like, "I didn't get the thing."

Because I felt so uncomfortable in the process that even though I came there with my money in hand, ready to buy something, I didn't because I didn't like the process.

And I noticed, I don't know if you ever go into a GNC. As soon as you walk in, they always come and they pounce on you.

And even to this day when I walk into GNC, it's one of my favorite stores. But I know the initial anxiety of the person pouncing on me asking if I can help them, or what I'm looking for.

I'm like, "I don't know what I'm looking for. I want to literally read the back of every label of every bottle here. I'll come to you if I need help, but don't come and pounce on me."

And I started realizing that and I started thinking, "If this was my story, how would I have wanted to be approached?"

And I started thinking the script. And I started thinking if I came in the door and the person says something like, "Hey, welcome to GNC today. I'm over here. If you need anything, let me know." And it was more of a deflect, I would've felt more comfortable. I would've walked around, then I would've felt comfortable coming back the person.

And I just started thinking through that. Anyway, that was before I learned marketing. I remember feeling that way, and as I started studying marketing I was like, "Oh, my gosh. I now know why I felt that way. The script was wrong and the process was wrong." And I started thinking through things more like that.

And I'm sure it was annoying for my family. We'd go to a restaurant and I would notice how did the server do things, and what did they say? And it started opening up for me.

In fact, my junior year in high school during the summer, I got a serving job and I was serving tables. And I remember, because I would split test different things to see what would give me more tips.

If I said this to a person versus this. And I remember in fact, this is a 17 year old kid who's stuck on himself. I'd roll my sleeves. "If my sleeves are rolled up and they see more of my arms, would it be higher?" And literally would split test this thing to try to figure out how to increase them.

And it's just weird. That was when I was young, and definitely it's messed me up nowadays, because it's hard for me when I see every ad, everything. I want to go deep into things, and I do sometimes but sometimes it takes me long rabbit holes. I don't know if that answers the question or not.

Josh:

Okay. Well, I want to kind of dive further down deeper into that, because I want to expand beyond just marketing as well. Because I think any of us as marketers when we have the light bulb turn on, you take the red pill or whatever it is.

I remember for me, I had that first experience with money. I grew up in a very small, small, small town. The two towns collectively combined had 750 people in them, and one bank and a gas station. Very, very small world.

And then I started learning about money, and I'll never forget the day that it clicked for me. I was actually out in... I had already moved to Nebraska, and I started to realize how money flowed.

And I got done reading this book, and I remember I picked up the phone and I called one of my friends who had been teaching me about money.

I'm like, "Dude, I get it now. I get everywhere around. I can't not see how money is flowing and where it works." I'm like this, and now I have all these questions about it.

And so I totally understand when your lights come on, you start seeing the whole world through that, for that specific thing. But I want to know what about other areas of your life, and how funnels and your viewpoint of funnels has affected that.

And what I'm trying to get at and understand, is you talk a lot about in Expert Secrets, we're building this identity, we're building this community, we're building this movement, this calling.

And what's interesting for me I've noticed, is that when I first got into this space, I was so new that the preconceived notions of what people should do or should not do did not affect me. Because I didn't know anything.

I was like, "I know I'm an idiot." people were like, "You're doing that wrong?" I'm like, "Probably." And there was no ego in the way of it.

But then as I grew, I thought there were certain ways that I had to think, or there were certain things that I had to do. And then if I broke free from the mold that everybody else was doing, then somehow that was wrong.

And I struggled with that. Thankfully for me, I didn't stay in there. But what helped me get out of it, is I gave myself permission and I literally was like, "I'm doing my own world over here. Everybody else, they can have whatever it is that they want. They can make more money than me, that's fine. I'm building this own little thing."

And when I envisioned myself stepping into this world, then I was allowed to make my own rules. And so the rules had to follow everything else, but people would be like, "Josh, it's super weird that you think about everything in marketing."

And I'm like, "But that's my world." And so everything about my life, from what I buy, to where I live, to who I hung out with, was all shaped around that.

And for a while, that was weird. And whenever I would go to my friends it was like, "You're weird." And I struggled with that.

But then once I gave myself kind of permission to be like, "Well, that's just literally how I think. That's my world, and it's okay to be different."

That really freed me. And so I'm curious. How has funnels shaped your world outside of only marketing? And what would you tell somebody? Would you tell someone it's okay to like view the world through whatever their new opportunity is, in all aspects of life? Does that make sense?

Russell:

I think so. It's interesting, because I know you're trying to get outside of marketing, but it's fascinating because in my vision of the world, like everything is marketing.

Josh:

That's what I'm saying though. That's what I'm saying.

Russell:

When I meant my wife-

Josh:

How has that affected relationships? When you are dealing with a problem in your family, do like go like, "What's the funnel for this?" Does that make sense?

Russell:

How do we craft the story, the pitch, the thing. But it's true, because I think about when I met my wife. When I met her, there were multiple people who... She was the prospect and multiple people all competing for her attention.

It was like, "Okay. I've got to create a better offer. I'm not the best looking guy, so I got to... What are the tools I have to increase the value of what I have to be more attractive to her?" And things like that.

With my kids right now, it's tough because my kids have got so many distractions and there's things that are way cooler than dad. I'm always trying to think through that lens of, "Okay."

Josh:

Wait, there's people cooler and Russell Brunson? What?

Russell:

You could never be a prophet in your hometown, they say. You're never cool to your own kids. But it's tough though, because I'm competing against all of... For my kids, the rappers that are in their ears, and they're listening to all these people who... That part of the world.

And they got their friends and they got these... There's so many things we're competing against. It's like, "Okay. Well, how do I take them on this journey to be able to help?"

And you talked about universe building, which is true. In fact, I'm working on a project with Dan Kennedy right now, and it's all about that concept of universe building, and things like that.

And you look at the big companies that have done it successfully, that's what they did. Walt Disney built this universe.

In fact, I've listened to the interviewed me and Dan did on Funnel Hacking Live, and he talked about Walt Disney and Hefner were basically the same business.

He's like, "One had bunnies and one had had rabbits or whatever. Or one had mice, one had bunnies." But it's the same business, right? They both had a universe that people came into.

And I think about that. We're doing the same thing. You create a universe for your customers. That's a lot of what the Expert Secrets and everything is about, creating this customer universe.

But it's true in your office with your team, it's true with your family, it's true with your relationships. You're kind of trying to craft this environment that makes people first off want to be there and to be part of it, and then to persuade people to hopefully get the things you're looking for.

All of us are in a persuasion business, even we don't want to admit it. And people are like, "I don't persuade people. I don't manipulate people."

But you are. What do you want to eat for dinner tonight? You got to persuade the other person. What movie do you want to go to? Are we going to go out tonight, or are we going to sit home on the couch?

You're always in this thing of persuasion. And if you look at any kind of sales environment, is the number one. The biggest, one of the most important things when you're trying to sell somebody something, is the, the environment. The universe that you put them in.

It's the reason why if I do a pitch on a virtual event, where somebody is at their own home, in their own environment, and I'm giving them a glimpse in my environment. I can convert and I can sell people.

But I do the exact same presentation at Funnel Hacking Live in a room where I control the environment, they're in my universe. My sales were 5-6X, even though it's the exact same presentation, exact same everything because I'm controlling the environment.

And so my home, same thing. How do I control this environment, my home? And how do I structure things? And how do we set the same things?

You think about in the ClickFunnels ecosystem, we've got these awards. We got the Two Comma Club awards, Two Comma Club X. We have things like that.

How do we create these things for people to strive towards inside of our families? Colette and I did that a couple years ago. We were trying to figure out what's our family goals. Do we have a goal? What does that look like? What's something that we can collectively all work towards together?

And in the Mormon church, one of the biggest goals is you want to get married in the temple. But to get married in the temple, you have to be living worthily. There's all these things to do.

And so as a family, we set a goal. How do you explain it? If my kids get married in the temple, their younger siblings won't be able to go, because they're not old enough to be able to go into the temple to actually witness the marriage.

The goal we set as a family, we set a goal of when Nora... Because Nora is the youngest. When Nora gets married, the goal is we'd love her to get married in the temple, and we want all of our family to be there. Which means all of our family has lived in a way where we're worthy to be there together as the family.

That became our family goal, and it's this thing we're all shooting towards. And it's fun, because now when I'm having family conversations with my kids, it's like, "Hey, you shouldn't be doing that." It's like, "Hey, these are things that are keeping us away from our family goal."

We want to do this thing in 10 years from now, 15 years ago, Nora... But the way you're living, you're not going to be able to do that.

And it's less of me trying to tell them what to do, as much as this is the goal we collectively set as a family. This is what we're trying to get to.

Same thing in Marketing, we're trying to get the Two Comma Club award, cool. You can go listen to forty other gurus if you want, but this is the path. This is the process. We can get you there, but if you're distracted...

It's just kind of a similar thing where, you set the things inside the universe, the goals, the steps. And hopefully, everyone... Not that they will or that they want to. Maybe my kids decide they hate the universe and they want to break out of it, and that can happen, too.

People don’t think funnels are cool, because they don't like me. I talk too fast or I'm annoying or whatever, and they enter different a different universe, but that's okay.

Josh:

Yeah. And I think entering a different universe, I think maybe what I'm trying to get at is I grew up, once again, super small town. Super small world, and I just figured there was a way the world worked. Singular. That's how it worked.

And as I've grown up, I was striving to figure that out. I'm like, "What's the way the world works?" And I get out there and I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. There's five million different ways the world works."

And depending upon whose world old that you're in. And so I was watching the football game last night. We had it on. It was the Steelers and the Vikings. I don't know.

By the way, I know you don't watch football, but I'm going to make a prediction on here for all my football fans out there. Patriots are going to the Super Bowl versus Tom Brady.

It's going to be Tom Brady and the Bucks versus Bill Belichick and the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Anyway, we're watching it last night and they have this documentary that's coming out. Do you know who John Madden is?

Russell:

Yeah. Just from the video game.

Josh:

Yeah. They have this whole thing on Madden and his whole life. And it's coming out, this documentary, and they do little clips, and there's all these different little people talking about it.

And they're like, "This dude, you couldn't be around him and not love football. Because he just exuded football in every aspect of his life. At the dinner table, around his family, around his friends, at the... Football, football, football, football."

And it got me thinking, because I'm preparing for this interview last night. And I'm like, "That guy's whole life was football. That's how it came about. He couldn't imagine a reality where football didn't exist.

"Yet there's somebody else out. There's millions, billions of people out in this world who they never heard of or think about or want anything to do with football."

And so here's a guy where his whole life revolves around football. All of his analogies, all of his stories, all of his strategies, everything was football all.

And then I was like, "Oh, I wonder if that's what it's like living with Russell." Everything is funnels. And it's like funnels, funnels, funnels, funnels, funnels.

I feel like sometimes as entrepreneurs, I know I struggled with this for a while, and I struggled with this a lot more when I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. When I was still trying to figure out my voice and kind of everything like that.

But I'm like, "I just can't be the X guy, because that would be weird. That's not how reality works. That's not how life works. You don't just get to just focus on all of this."

But I feel like it is. And I feel like you don't necessarily have to be a single thing guy, but I feel like you can. In the sense of...

And that's why I'm trying to get at with you, is I feel like you've gone into this world and you've found the thing that works. And you've said, "Hey, listen, basically, in life you have to know where it is that you're going and how it is that you're going to get there."

That's essentially in life, and that's kind of my core premise of everything. I'm like, "I don't care how you live in life." But I'm like, "If you don't know where you're going and how you're going to get there, your life is going to suck. You're not going to have a very fulfilled life."

And so I feel like for you, you've figured out, "Okay. Wherever I want to get, this is the vehicle I'm going to use." And you've built an entire reality and universe around that. Yeah?

Russell:

Yeah, for sure. And it's interesting though, too, because I actually was on a call last night with Stu McLaren at their prediction college here, and he was asking my predictions for the future.

And it's interesting because yes, funnels is the thing. It's my lens. And that's what people come to me. It's the lens they come through.

But what I think is fascinating, and I see this with... In fact, I told Stu, I'm like, "There's an evolution. People were experts for a while and then they became influencers."

And I think the next phase, it won't stick. People will still call themselves influencers, because it sounds cool and they feel the significance of that. But I think the next phase is people are going to become curators more so.

Which is someone comes to me for funnels, but it's interesting because my last inner circle meeting, people pay 50 grand to be in the room. There's 100 people in this room and they're here because they want to learn funnels from Russell.

We're talking about funnels and then we open for Q&A. And guess how many funnel questions came through? Zero. The questions were, "Russell, I came to you for funnels, but I trust you. I like you."

And they didn't say this, but this is what happened, is they wanted to figure out how I curate. They wanted me to curate other thoughts for them.

"I trust you in this, therefore what do you think about religion?" And they want me to take all my years of curation of all the ideas like, "This is what I believe." Or they're like, "How is your family successful?"

And so they asked me these other questions. And I was telling Stu last night. I'm like, "Stu, you're the membership guy. People come from your memberships. But after they come in, that's what brings them into the door, but then they're coming because they want your curation of other ideas."

Dan Usher. I think Dan on our team. It was fascinating, because his favorite band is Rufus or something like that. I don't really know the band that well.

But he's obsessed with them and their music, and so he follows them, he loves them and everything. And he just bought his first house out here in Boise, so he needed to get art on the wall. He's like, "Well, I love Rufus. I trust them. They've curated their favorite art."

He went and bought everything that Rufus ever said they like for art and put it on his wall. He's like, "Cool. Because I trust them, therefore I want this." And then he bought the furniture that they have in their house, because he trusts their opinion on this and other things.

And so I think it's with Madden, I'm sure the football is what brings people in. And they come in there, they sit at the table for that.

But then if they like him and they connect with him, then they want to know, "What else do you know?” I want to go down these other rabbit holes with you, because I trust you and I trust your opinion. I trust because you've already kind of done that."

I think for me, that's probably more so, is they come in from one thing, but then if they connect with you then they want to dive deep on all the other pieces, the things that you find fascinating.

Josh:

Yeah. It's almost like they need the in to step into your universe, and then you get to build the rest of the universe out for them simply because you've built trust in that one area.

Russell:

Yeah. And what's fascinating. If you rewind back in my history 15 years ago, it was tough because when I was trying to create my universe, I didn't know that's what it was called.

But it was funny. If you look at the landscape in our industry back then, it was interesting. Jeff Walker was the launch guy, Frank Kern was the mass control guy, Filsaime was the butterfly marketing person.

Everyone had a thing where they were the best. Brad Fallon was SEO, and then you had Perry Marshall was PPC, and everyone had their thing. And I came in, I was good at all of this. I'm like, "I'm the guy who do everything."

And I'd go to events like, "Cool, what do you do?" I'm like, "What do you need? I'm good at copywriting, and I can do all the things." And people are like, "Oh, okay."

But then they'd go and they'd sign up for Jeff for launch. And I'm like, "I can do launch. I've done tons of launches." Or they'd go to whoever for copywriting, John Carlton for copywriting. I'm like, "God, I've done all these things."

But there wasn't a thing. It wasn't until I specialize in. "Okay. Funnels is the thing." And it was a narrow focus where people could attach a thing in their head like, "Oh, Russell is the guy who does funnels."

And they do that. But they come into the... That's the doorway that brings them into my world. But inside the funnel world, what is there? You can launch a funnel. There's copywriting, there's traffic driving, there's all these other things.

But I had to bring them in through a channel they could connect with, they could label me with. You know what I mean? But after they're in my universe, there's all sorts of stuff I can do with him.

Josh:

I feel like that right there was the core of what I was trying to get after. I think a lot of people struggle with or are afraid to claim their thing, because they're like, "I can't just claim it."

Funnels. Russell could claim funnels because that was a thing, but was it a thing before Russell? Was there a funnel... You are the one that came in and nobody came to you and was like, "Russell, you're the funnel guy. Go." You were the one that had to decide that. You were the one that had to come in and be like…

Russell:

And it's fascinating, because I was the only one back then talking about it. There was a bunch of people. In fact, I remember Todd and I started building ClickFunnels. And I remember about that time it was T&C, so it was the T&C before we launched ClickFunnels.

And we got T&C, we were sitting in the audience, and Todd and I are mapping things out, and we're talking back and forth. And the entire T&C, that event was about funnels.

And so Ryan was on stage, Perry was on stage talking about funnels they developed. "This is the funnel framework for all funnels." They sold the $18,000 funnel coaching program and half the room signed up, and all this stuff.

And I was like, "Oh, my gosh. That's what we're trying to go, but they just took it from us." And then it was crazy. After that T&C, then everyone was talking about funnels.

And it was funny, because the next week everyone became a funnel consultant. All of a sudden, 2,000 little funnel consultants were running around the internet talking about funnels.

And I remember Mike Filsaime had done something showing behind the scenes of one of his funnels, and I remember somebody else got mad. I'm like, "We're the funnel person. You shouldn't be talking about this us."

And I remember Mike and him were fighting back and forth. I was kind of watching this and I was like, "We have this software coming out called ClickFunnels. And I have this book I'm writing that's almost done called Dotcom Secrets, which is all about funnels."

And so I was stepping in this thing where there was a whole bunch of noise around this topic, and I could have been like, "Who am I? I'm not qualified." Whatever.

But instead I was like, "You know what? This is what I'm obsessed with. And I'm just going to do my thing, and I don't care about everybody else."

And so I just did my thing and came out there, and there were people who... I can't tell the actual stories, but there were people who were upset. "You shouldn't be talking about this, Russel. This is so and so's thing."

And then at TNC the next year, there was some weird comments from stage made about stuff. Because in fact, somebody said from stage, "Because of what we talked about last year at T&C, Russell created ClickFunnels because of us." And they gave them credit for this thing.

And it was just this craziness. But man, we were the only ones who took it and that were consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent. I'm seven, almost eight years into the consistency, which is how you define the path.

That's how you get the... You look at Jeff Walker, who's been talking about product launches for 20 years. Therefore, he's the product launch guy. People try to come dethrone him, but he's been consistently talking about the same thing for so long that you can't.

And so the biggest thing is picking the platform, and then you just triple down on it and you keep doing it, and doing it, and doing it. And eventually, you will rise the Victor. But most people don't have the longterm, the patients to keep just drilling in for long enough to make it stick.

Josh:

Yeah. And I think that a lot of times, at least in my experience, and it could be different for other people. But a lot of times, it's because you're just not confident enough in it.

The only thing that's going to be the difference of whether or not it's going to stick or not, is whether or not you're confident enough to follow through.

That's not necessarily true for every single product universally. Sometimes the market doesn't fit, and sometimes there really is... If you tried to launch a competitor to iPhone right now, you're probably not going to make it.

But generally speaking, especially in our world with funnels and experts and a lot of online influencer marketing and things of that nature. It's basically whoever sticks at it the longest and then creates the clearest, simplest stories, the clearest, simplest frameworks, and the easiest way for people to be able to get results with it, are the ones that are actually going to make it and follow through.

Russell:

Yeah. That’s the game, and it’s so much fun.

Josh:

All right. Well, I'm ready to move onto topic number two here. We're about at time.

Russell:

All right.

Josh:

You ready to rock and roll?

Russell:

We'll wrap it up. Thank you guys for listening. If you enjoyed this, let us know. Otherwise, we'll never do this again, so if you loved it, tag me and Josh on Facebook, Instagram, wherever you guys do stuff. If you tweet, I probably won't see it there, but tweet it up and let us know, and we'll come back and do some more of this stuff.

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]]> 1826 no Curation Secrets https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/curation-secrets In the latest episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell Brunson delves into the concept of curation and its growing importance for influencers and entrepreneurs. He begins by discussing his own struggle with remembering the word "curate" and how he's been contemplating this topic for several months.  Russell explains that the future of business, particularly for influencers and experts, lies in mastering the art of curation. He describes his journey over the past 20 years, noting that his primary role has been to curate ideas. By reading countless books, attending courses, and experimenting with various concepts, Russell has been able to sift through vast amounts of information and distill it into practical frameworks that he shares with his audience through his books like Dotcom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets. Russell emphasizes that his books are not just collections of his original thoughts but rather curated insights from a wide array of sources that he has tested and refined. This process of curation involves sifting through information, retaining the most valuable elements, and presenting them in a way that is accessible and actionable for his audience. He shares an anecdote about a conversation with a fellow church member who inquired about his framework development process. Russell likens it to sifting sand, where the non-essential elements fall away, leaving behind the core principles that form the foundation of his frameworks. This method, he suggests, is applicable to everyone in their respective fields. To illustrate the power of curation, Russell recounts a story about Dan Usher, a member of his team. Dan is a fan of the band Rufus and trusts their curated recommendations for art and decor. When Dan moved to a new house, he relied on the band's curation to furnish his home, demonstrating how trust in a curator can extend beyond their primary expertise. Russell notes that as influencers, people come to them for their core expertise but often end up seeking advice on various aspects of life, from family and health to personal routines. This broader interest underscores the potential for influencers to curate content across multiple domains. One of Russell's major current projects is building a 20,000 square foot library next to the ClickFunnels HQ. This library will house an extensive collection of books and materials that he has curated, particularly in the fields of personal development and business. He has invested significantly in acquiring rare and valuable works by influential figures like Napoleon Hill and Dale Carnegie. The library will serve as a resource for deep learning and will include both physical copies and curated frameworks derived from these materials. Russell explains his vision of creating a comprehensive resource where visitors can explore various sections dedicated to his passions, such as religion, personal development, business, and advertising. Each section will feature rare first editions and curated materials, allowing visitors to dive deep into the subjects that Russell has meticulously curated. He emphasizes the importance of simplifying complex ideas through curation, making them more accessible and actionable for the audience. This approach not only enhances the value provided to the audience but also establishes the curator as a trusted source across multiple areas of interest. In conclusion, Russell encourages listeners to embrace their roles as curators. By curating and simplifying information, they can provide immense value to their audiences, who trust them not only for their primary expertise but for broader life guidance as well. This, he believes, is the future for influencers, experts, and entrepreneurs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 Dec 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Curation Secrets full 473 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A new way to look at your role as an expert or an influencer. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? Good morning. This is Russell Brunson, and I want to welcome you... In the latest episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell Brunson delves into the concept of curation and its growing importance for influencers and entrepreneurs. He begins by discussing his own struggle with remembering the word "curate" and how he's been contemplating this topic for several months.  Russell explains that the future of business, particularly for influencers and experts, lies in mastering the art of curation. He describes his journey over the past 20 years, noting that his primary role has been to curate ideas. By reading countless books, attending courses, and experimenting with various concepts, Russell has been able to sift through vast amounts of information and distill it into practical frameworks that he shares with his audience through his books like Dotcom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets. Russell emphasizes that his books are not just collections of his original thoughts but rather curated insights from a wide array of sources that he has tested and refined. This process of curation involves sifting through information, retaining the most valuable elements, and presenting them in a way that is accessible and actionable for his audience. He shares an anecdote about a conversation with a fellow church member who inquired about his framework development process. Russell likens it to sifting sand, where the non-essential elements fall away, leaving behind the core principles that form the foundation of his frameworks. This method, he suggests, is applicable to everyone in their respective fields. To illustrate the power of curation, Russell recounts a story about Dan Usher, a member of his team. Dan is a fan of the band Rufus and trusts their curated recommendations for art and decor. When Dan moved to a new house, he relied on the band's curation to furnish his home, demonstrating how trust in a curator can extend beyond their primary expertise. Russell notes that as influencers, people come to them for their core expertise but often end up seeking advice on various aspects of life, from family and health to personal routines. This broader interest underscores the potential for influencers to curate content across multiple domains. One of Russell's major current projects is building a 20,000 square foot library next to the ClickFunnels HQ. This library will house an extensive collection of books and materials that he has curated, particularly in the fields of personal development and business. He has invested significantly in acquiring rare and valuable works by influential figures like Napoleon Hill and Dale Carnegie. The library will serve as a resource for deep learning and will include both physical copies and curated frameworks derived from these materials. Russell explains his vision of creating a comprehensive resource where visitors can explore various sections dedicated to his passions, such as religion, personal development, business, and advertising. Each section will feature rare first editions and curated materials, allowing visitors to dive deep into the subjects that Russell has meticulously curated. He emphasizes the importance of simplifying complex ideas through curation, making them more accessible and actionable for the audience. This approach not only enhances the value provided to the audience but also establishes the curator as a trusted source across multiple areas of interest. In conclusion, Russell encourages listeners to embrace their roles as curators. By curating and simplifying information, they can provide immense value to their audiences, who trust them not only for their primary expertise but for broader life guidance as well. This, he believes, is the future for influencers, experts, and entrepreneurs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In the latest episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell Brunson delves into the concept of curation and its growing importance for influencers and entrepreneurs. He begins by discussing his own struggle with remembering the word "curate" and how he's been contemplating this topic for several months. 


Russell explains that the future of business, particularly for influencers and experts, lies in mastering the art of curation. He describes his journey over the past 20 years, noting that his primary role has been to curate ideas. By reading countless books, attending courses, and experimenting with various concepts, Russell has been able to sift through vast amounts of information and distill it into practical frameworks that he shares with his audience through his books like Dotcom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets.


Russell emphasizes that his books are not just collections of his original thoughts but rather curated insights from a wide array of sources that he has tested and refined. This process of curation involves sifting through information, retaining the most valuable elements, and presenting them in a way that is accessible and actionable for his audience.


He shares an anecdote about a conversation with a fellow church member who inquired about his framework development process. Russell likens it to sifting sand, where the non-essential elements fall away, leaving behind the core principles that form the foundation of his frameworks. This method, he suggests, is applicable to everyone in their respective fields.


To illustrate the power of curation, Russell recounts a story about Dan Usher, a member of his team. Dan is a fan of the band Rufus and trusts their curated recommendations for art and decor. When Dan moved to a new house, he relied on the band's curation to furnish his home, demonstrating how trust in a curator can extend beyond their primary expertise.


Russell notes that as influencers, people come to them for their core expertise but often end up seeking advice on various aspects of life, from family and health to personal routines. This broader interest underscores the potential for influencers to curate content across multiple domains.


One of Russell's major current projects is building a 20,000 square foot library next to the ClickFunnels HQ. This library will house an extensive collection of books and materials that he has curated, particularly in the fields of personal development and business. He has invested significantly in acquiring rare and valuable works by influential figures like Napoleon Hill and Dale Carnegie. The library will serve as a resource for deep learning and will include both physical copies and curated frameworks derived from these materials.


Russell explains his vision of creating a comprehensive resource where visitors can explore various sections dedicated to his passions, such as religion, personal development, business, and advertising. Each section will feature rare first editions and curated materials, allowing visitors to dive deep into the subjects that Russell has meticulously curated.


He emphasizes the importance of simplifying complex ideas through curation, making them more accessible and actionable for the audience. This approach not only enhances the value provided to the audience but also establishes the curator as a trusted source across multiple areas of interest.


In conclusion, Russell encourages listeners to embrace their roles as curators. By curating and simplifying information, they can provide immense value to their audiences, who trust them not only for their primary expertise but for broader life guidance as well. This, he believes, is the future for influencers, experts, and entrepreneurs.

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]]> 995 no ROR - Q&A Session (3 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ror-qa-session-3-of-3 In this final segment, you get to hear Russell answer some questions from the attendees of the ROR Symposium. If you have enjoyed these episodes about the importance of relationships, please check out RORUniversity.com to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. All right. What did you guys think? Did you like the keynote presentation so far? I hope you did. Hopefully it gave you some ideas about how we grow a business using relationships and joint ventures and the Dream 100, and give you guys some realistic expectations on how the game is played. Hope you guys enjoyed it so far. Now at the end of the symposium, they opened up to Q&A, which was really fun. And so I had a chance to do some Q&A, answer some questions, and we kind of jumped all over the board. So this episode will be fun. You'll get a couple different perspectives on some questions. My guess is that one of the questions you're going to hear is a question that you're probably wondering or something maybe you should have asked and didn't even think about it. So I hope this gives you a some value and you get some benefit from it. Once again, I want to thank Christopher Voss for allowed me to use my presentation from his ROR symposium for the podcast episode. If you want to follow Christopher and learn more about what he's doing and how to build better relationships in your business, get more traffic, build more referrals and things like that, make sure you go to roruniversity.com and get on his list. All right, that said, I'm going to open up the third and final episode from our ROR symposium. We had a chance to do some Q&A with me, and I hope you guys enjoy it. Thanks so much. Don: One of my capacities today, just in this hour, is to be bouncer. So y'all get on the velvet rope, I've got my clipboard. I will let you go first, McCall, because I can see you on my screen. McCall, we've got 10 or 15 minutes, so just do me a favor, people: ask Russell your question with a certain amount of concise nature, and then he can answer it, because we have one last thing we need to do before Russell goes, and then we can wrap up the symposium. So McCall, go ahead. Unmute yourself and ask your question. McCall: Hi! Okay. I want to know who's on your list next. Don: Ooh. McCall: You got to have a list of people who you are always trying to connect with. I know you've gone to Tony Robbins. I mean, I know there are, but who are the people who you are actively trying to connect with now? Are you going to share it with us? Is it a secret? Is it supposed to be a secret? Am I missing something here? Russell: That's a good question. Maybe I'll put out the word, and guys can go find these people for me. McCall: Yes! Russell: It's interesting, and partially it's kind of where my life, like number one... Okay. So partially it's because I started getting obsessed with UFC during COVID, so I enjoyed watching more UFC fights... So this will make sense in a second. Also, I'm working on my success and personal development books right now, so it kind of opens up the reason why also. But the two people that I really am looking forward to eventually is Dana White and Joe Rogan. Those two guys are super fascinating to me. I don't agree with- McCall: Joe Rogan and, who was the first one? Russell: Dana White, who's the owner of UFC. Both of them, I don't agree with our belief system, like half, but they fascinate me on the other half and I have the ability to... Hopefully, all of us can learn is you can disagree with somebody on a lot of things and still have respect from them and still learn from them, so. But those are the two I'm really fascinated by and I have so many things... I'm not a very good interviewer, but man, if I sit down for an hour or two them, I would have so many things I want to ask them and like, ah, those guys fascinate me, so. McCall: Do you just do it in a Kevin Bacon way? Where you're like, okay, the six degrees of Kevin Bacon away from Joe Rogan and Dana White, and you just like start to eliminate? Russell: Definitely. There's that, but there's also like, is there a way I can incorporate Joe? How can I serve Joe Rogan? Right? He's the biggest podcast, my podcast doesn't help him, but I'll put him on stage potentially. Or there's something we could do, or... What's the next thing? If he's going to be doing his comedy shows, maybe I could find out like, "Hey, I can help fill a show in a city. We can do a funnel." Something like that where I can use my unique abilities to help magnify something they're doing. Or Dana White, I don't know how I'd serve him yet, but that would be kind of the thing. And then yes, it's looking at degrees of separation. I do know that Grand Cardone had Dana White on stage, I know there's that; I know Alex Sharpton is moving next door to Joe Rogan. So there's all kind of things. But I'm not like, "Hey Sharpton, can you call Joe Rogan for me? What's his address?" I'm not doing that, because I don't want to be the creepy guy. But I'm like, okay, I do know there's connection points, and who and how and all this kind of things. And then I'm also trying to pay attention to him. So like when I do have a chance to meet them the very first time, I can have an intelligent conversation. I can tell when people are prepared to meet me, because they... Like today, I had a guy that I'm potentially interviewing for a big position. And it was in the conversation, I could just... like, little things. He asked something about wrestling. I was like, "Oh, how do you like wrestling?" And he's like, "Your kid's wrestle?" I was like, I literally Instagramed a picture of Aiden on a wrestling mat last night. He did his homework, so we had this thing, and that's when I was like, "Oh, he is cool because he's paying attention." And all of a sudden I was like, "Ah, he got me. I trust this guy now because he had that commonality." And so, I'm trying to pay enough attention to them, what they're doing, where I could have a... Not that I have to agree with him, but I can like have a conversation. Like, "Hey, I don't agree with this. What do you think?" Sometimes agreeing with people don't create the connection points. The disagreement, you can have a discussion. That gets more fascinating and you get closer to someone through that than you ever could like, "Oh, you're so cool." People don't want to feel like they're being worshiped, they want to feel like an equal. So it's like, you get a mentally stimulating conversation with somebody that you disagree with, sometimes that's the best connection. I don't have the same opinion of that person, but that was the fascinating view to look at it through. And so, just gotta do my homework there. And yeah, stuff like that. McCall: That's cool. Thanks man! Russell: No worries. Don: Awesome. Okay, next... That's how rumors get started. Did you guys know that Russell's getting into UFC? He's going to be the ultimate fighter champion. Russell: I’m ready for it, let's go. Don: Let's go! All right, Daniel, you're next. Go ahead. Russell: I think if I was to have just retired from wrestling right now in my life, I 100% would be going towards UFC. Now that I'm an old man, I can't. And I didn't understand fighting back when I did get done competing, but if I was graduating from competition right now, I had 100% be in the UFC, or trying to be in the UFC, for sure. Don: And I had no idea that you were such a pop culture reference person. I've seen you do it stage a few time, but you did it in this small group, and I'm like, "Thank God. Russell and I have this in common." Because my immediate thought when you talked about it was, you can be like the guy from friends when John Favreau tries to be the ultimate fighting champion. He's passed his prime there and he has to give up the dream. But anyway. Daniel, go ahead with your question. Daniel: All right. First up, thank you so much, Russell. It's such an honor to be here in the same room as you. It's because of you, my mindset has switched from the mindset of just wanting to earn more money to serving people. I'm a big fan of you and your podcast, and especially Marketing In Your Car. That totally rocks. And my question… Russell: By the way, did you notice that? Now I know, first off, he's paid attention, but it wasn't just like, "Oh, I bought your book." He's like, Marketing In Your Car, which is my old podcast, he paid attention to. Yeah, so checked out connection point, now I'm like this guy's a real fan. I actually trust him even more. So, very good for you. That was awesome. Daniel: I love for you, Russell. I love you so much. So your latest podcast where you mentioned about the reasons for entry versus the reasons to stay, from Dan Kennedy. So I believe that we can also use that same framework for our Dream 100 too. If yes, could you expound a little bit more on that for me, please? Russell: Yeah. For sure. Those who don't know the reference yet, I did a podcast about this fax right here. Hold on. Oh, it’s not this one, dang it. Anyway, Dan only sends things through fax. So, there's fax that we got, which was like the fax he sent to the guy who bought it before me about how the other company destroyed his brand and his name, and there's a whole bunch of these little nuggets. So I shared one nugget, which was the difference between why people come into your business and why they stay in your business. They're different, right? For example, in our Mastermind, people come, it's like, "I want to be in my Russell's Mastermind!" And they get there and they're like, "Russell's not that cool, but all the people here are amazing!" And they stick because of the community of people, right? So it's like, I'm the hook to get him in, but this is what you're actually paying for is this amazing community. Right? And Dan was talking about, because for them, it's like, people come in because they want the money making secret of whatever, but they stay for the community and the newsletter, and Dan and his thoughts. It's understanding that they come and they stick for different reasons. And so Dream 100's very similar. I think a good practical example is like when we launched ClickFunnels, I was trying to find people that we could build funnels for free. Right? So I called a bunch of like bigger name people. Tony was one, Dave Asprey, a bunch of people who I woke up to. And I was like, "Hey, can I build you a funnel for your new book launch or for your thing?" It's like, they came because I wanted to serve them, do a thing like that. But then, that's how I got to know him. Right? I had a chance to go to Bulletproof Cafe and film Dave Asprey and get to know him, and become personal with him and like build a relationship. And so the hook was what got him to say yes to the meeting and to me spending half a day with him. Right? But then after that, the relationship stuck because of the other things. Does that make sense? So it's kind of the same thing. How do I surge enough hook to get them in so you have time to build relationships. That's the hardest thing. Right now it's hard because my time's so busy. How am I going to have time to… I can’t please everybody? So it's like, what's the hook? Like, what's something I can bring this value to you. It's like, "Okay, I got 30 minutes. Let's figure this out." And then during that window, if you build a relationship now, they stick for that. And I think that's a lot of times the way you open the door is through how can I serve you? For me, it's like, I don't have many talents, but funnels is one of them. So I built funnels for a lot of people. And nowadays, those other people aren't get ahold. Well, I don't necessarily build a funnel, but I'm like, "Hey, we want to migrate you over. I got a few amazing people to help you do your thing and build it out." And that way, again, we're serving them, getting it like, "Hey, now your things on ClickFunnel's platform." And then now, relationship is built. So I think that's probably how I look at it from an affiliate standpoint. Daniel: So yeah, just like going all out to serve them and just having that house service, and from there on, you build a reciprocity, and that's how you continue on the relationship. Thank you so much, Russell. Really appreciate you. Russell: No worries. Here’s an example, when Dave was out with somebody, we were at this thing and we'd asked this guy... We knew who it was. He's a friend but not best buddies. And we had ClickFunnels. It was when ClickFunnels first came out. We asked him three or four times, like, "Hey, you want to help us..." And he was just like, "No, no." And then Dave found out that he lives in Australia, he was flying back to Australia, and he wanted this surfboard. So Dave went and bought the surfboard, and then tried to give it to him that will miss the thing. So David had to jump in a car and drive three hours to the airport to get it to him and all this stuff. And then he flew back to Australia, he called me, he's like, "Man, Dave literally bought the thing I was looking for, drove it to me, got it for me in time. Now I have it here." He's like, "I have to roll ClickFunnels now." So Dave was the hook, and I was like, "Oh, you guys serve a level that nobody else does." Like, yes. Okay. Now I'll do the thing. And back, one of our early promoters, way back in the day. So anyway, just, it's always looking for that, like how do you help the people out first? Daniel: Amazing. Amazing. Thank you so much, Russell. Appreciate it. Russell: No worries. Thank you. Daniel: God bless. Don: Great question, Daniel. Thanks for being a real life example of what we're supposed to be doing, man. Russell was able to point out three things you did right, right there. That was amazing. All right, Jim, you're next buddy. Mr. Show, go ahead and unmute yourself and ask Russell your question. And try not to get in trouble. Jim: Don't get trouble. That's harsh. Russell: I'm like, "Cut the mic, cut the mic." Jim: Yeah. Russell: "Get him off, get him off." Don: I'm just kidding. Jim and I have had a really great relationship. He's been helping out, and he's going to help me out with something a little bit. Russell: Very good. Jim: Yes. So I focus on live streaming because I'm addicted to it. I think that Twitch is the future and I'm just trying to bring it here a little faster. And to entrepreneurs in particular, and I love the relationships that come from it. I had a game show called Exes Knows game show that formed amazing relationships. But it was very tight-knit, small family kind of a thing. So like, I want to give that to the audience too, and I wanted to know with like you have the Marketing Secrets show, and when you did that YouTube video, like I got giddy. You were like, "You need a show." I was like, "Yeah." But I just want to know if you had any recommendations for how to make it, that personal feel of being on the show, how can I give that to the audience? Russell: Mm. So I know what Twitch is because my kids watch video games on it and stuff. So can you explain so I understand like, are you in Twitch shows like more like, business type stuff? Or how are you… Jim: Yeah. If you go under Just Chatting for Twitch, they have actual shows. And shows like talk shows, interviews, game shows like what I ended up doing. They have round tables and all sorts of things that are not game centric, and the audiences are just loving it. They're adoring it. And they have things like Patreon to where you can take that step closer. They had exclusive content and things. So I was thinking of doing something more like that, but I'm not a big fan of Patreon. I just want to give that to them anyway. Russell: Yeah. It's funny. Again, this is mostly because I don't understand how the whole platform works. We talked about like, "We should do a Twitch show where people are just building funnels all day long, and my kids watch video games, and like..." We talked about it a couple times, so it's interesting. Again, I haven't done it on the platform, so I don't know exactly how it worked, but I think conceptually, the way you build communities is a couple things, right? Number one is like, people have to feel like they're a part of something. So it's not just like a bunch of randos coming to an event. It's like for Funnel Hacking Live, it’s a bunch of funnel hackers come to an event. Like, they're coming, and it's not like they're showing up just randomly. It's like, this is my people. I'm part of this. It's a tribe, it's a community. They're part of it, right? Just like family reunion, you go back and it's like, all my family comes together because we're family. And you can talk forever because it's a family mixed with family. And so we always try to create that, but it comes with people identifying with the thing you're doing, right? Expert Seekers talks a lot about this, but it's like those kind things. How do you get people to self-identify so they feel like they're part of the thing as opposed, I'm going to watch a show. Like I'm part of this, right? When we do ClickFunnel specifically, I was like, if people think it's Russell's company, they're not going to... It might be successful, but it'll stop. I was like, I want people to feel like ClickFunnels is our software. This is our company together. Right? And so you look at my languaging that I talk through things. I'm never like, "My company ClickFunnels." I'm like, "Yeah, it's a community." I'm like, "This is ClickFunnels, we have this community." And I'm trying to make it our company, not my company. Because no one cares if my company succeeds or not, but they care if our company, if our movement, if our culture, if our thing is different. Right? And so it's like, how do we make it we instead of just you? And I think that's one reason we've had so much success inside of our industries, I look at everybody else and everybody else doesn't do that. Everyone else is like, them and about them and about the thing. And it's like, we try to be us and try to make people feel tighter. And then you don't have to necessarily monetize on Patreon or whatever. It could be just swag. Like for example, we had Derral Eves came and spoke at our last Inner Circle meeting and he... Jim: I love Derral Eves. Russell: I don't know if you guys know the Chosen, but they've done $29 million in t-shirt sales on the back of the Chosen. So the content's completely free. Everything's free out there. But because the community and people want it, just in t-shirt sales. Right? And they've done a lot more in other stuff. But if you think about that, it's like, all the content's completely free, but it's the community. And so it's looking at that like how it's going to monetize it. Maybe it's not a paid thing or Patreon or whatever, but what do you have? Is it swag? For me, it's software. My whole goal is to get people into software eventually. Dan Kennedy was all about newsletters, physical newsletters is their thing that they monetize. And so it's just looking at like what monetization vehicle is exciting for you, and then making that the thing that, that you plug people into. It could be anything. It could be, again, software supplements. It could be all of us drink the same drink, supplement drink. Whatever the thing is. But there's this commonality thing that ties everybody together where they have this unique experience. In fact, prove it's a network marketing company I've done a lot of work with in the past. But everyone's drinking Ketones. Literally, the drink that they're drinking is what ties this community together, and they all have Ketone shirts and all these things, but that's the glue that ties all the people together, where they're all doing the same things. For me, it's software; other people, it's supplements; some people, it's new... whatever the thing is that glues the tribe together. Jim: Awesome. Thank you so much. I really appreciate the time. Russell: Sunday, if I remember on Twitch, doing the funnel hacker, funnel building show. I'll have to consult with you. Jim: Check out Just Chatting, man. It's really, really fun. Russell: Yeah. Very cool. Don: Awesome. Thank you so much, Jim. That's a great question. Russell, we have three more hands raised, and I've kind of cut it off and said that we're not going to have any more time. So if we could just take the last few questions, and then we'll wrap things up. Tammy, you're next. Could you please unmute and ask your question? Tammy: Hey Russell. I am so excited to have the opportunity. Thank you very much. And you mentioned something that was kind of a segue as to what I wanted to ask you, had I ever got the opportunity to ask you. And here it is! Tell me a little bit about the Funnel Hacker t-shirt. And the reason I asked is because this is what I do. I help clients make connections with their clients and customers, and love on them and kind of work their way through building these amazing relationships. And I use the Funnel Hacker t-shirt as an example all of the time. It's crazy. I don't even know if you know. Do you know you can't even go on eBay and buy a Funnel Hackers t-shirt. Like, occasionally you could find one, but most generally- Russell: A nasty one somebody had… Tammy: ... you just can't, man. I mean, you just can't find it. And so, it is a coveted item that defines your community. It gives them a jumping off point, not because it has your logo on it. I don't even think that's the brilliant part of this. The reason is because you have, either intentionally or not intentionally, you have connected with the end product of what you're delivering, and people self-identify with that to the point of, they want to be what it is that you offer. And I think people miss that so much in the branding. I see that in my business and things that I do; people want to slap their logo on it. Their first thing's like, let's put a logo on it and it's not about you. Can you speak to that just a little bit? Because got to love it. Russell: 100%. So I remember going to T&C before we launched Funnel Hacking Live. And I remember they gave swag items, and it was weird things. Like, one was a tuxedo and the things... And everybody got home and had them, and I just kind of threw them away and I didn't do anything with it. I remember we were building swag, I definitely didn't do this intentionally, but then after it happened, I realized it, and then we doubled down on that. And so what we realized is that, 100% of what you said. So yes, everything you said has my mark of approval. They have to identify. If they can't say I am a blank, they're not going to connect with it. Right? So I am a funnel hacker. I am a biohacker. I am a lady boss. I am a funnel builder. You can say, "I am a..." And then the word. That's how it is. Because I put it on like, I'm a funnel hacker. This is funnel hacker. But they have to be able to say that, "I am a..." Whatever. Expert Seekers would be a horrible t-shirt. I'm an Expert Seekers. No, I am a ClickFunnels. No, this is not going to work. It's not going to create a movement. Right here, Dan. Right? "I am diehard. I'm a diehard funnel hacker." That's the amplification of it. Right? But you wear that because that's who you are. I am a... Boom. And so that's what self identifies. And wearing a tuxedo thing was weird. I can't remember the one they had. I remember specifically, because Funnel Hacking Live was like a year later or something. And I remember thinking like I want swag that people would wear. And what's crazy now is I get texts probably two or three times a week from friends who are like, "I'm in Malaysia on those little carts." And as I'm driving down the street, there's this dude. They are taking pictures. "This dude in the middle of nowhere is wearing your shirt." And like, I get texts. It's like the craziest thing. Someone the day was like, "I'm in an airport in Singapore," "I'm in Australia," "I'm in New Zea-". All these things, and they're sending these random shirts, yeah I see a bunch of you guys wearing them. And it's just the coolest thing. And it's been spread through. If you notice nowadays, not all of them, sometimes they have different reasons, but almost all of our core shirts that we give away or do things with, always the test for me is like, "Can I say I am a blank?" If we can, sweet. If not... maybe it's something that's like a cool whatever, but it's not like a movement making something that someone wears. And so yes, 100% agree. And that's why we do it. And again, I don't think I did it up front. In fact, I think it was actually Kaelin Poulin. Because we had Funnel Hacker, and she had launched her swag stuff and a bunch of them didn't work. And then the one that just said LadyBoss on it, she came back, and I remember in our Inner Circle meeting, that's what she said. She's like I realize if they can't say I am a whatever, they don't self-identify, she's like, "We may sell it, but for us to sell a lot, it's like the self-identification gives people to actually buy, wear it, all that kind of stuff." So, very cool. Tammy: Thank you. Daniel: Awesome. Great question. Okay, Larry. And then we've got the last two. So Larry, go ahead and unmute and ask your question. Larry: Thank you. Thank you, Russell. For this wonderful speech. I'm really excited, because I started my journey three years ago with your Secrets books, and I have read them dozens of times, and audiobooks also. So I very well know your concepts of Dream 100 and making movements. I just want to, to ask you, I'm starting to make movement. It's a really, really small, really small group of fearless live go-getters. We are fighting the fear of going lives and starting those lives in the business. So what's your recommendation for me? I have finally a month and a half ago started to get some traction. I joined One Comma Club. So how to make that movement. Russell: So your people are going live like on Facebook. Is that what we're talking about? Larry: Yes. Yes. Since inside of the group, we are practicing, and later they are starting using that in their business. Russell: Okay. And then what type of people are you trading? Larry: Entrepreneurs and marketers. Russell: Do they fall in a certain subcategory underneath that? Larry: Yeah. Well, yes, they are people who actually haven't done those lives at all, but can realize very fast the power of it and have to overcome that fear. I'm also introverted, just like you, and I have done 160 lives in a row just to persuade myself. And during that period, I have persuaded so many people, so eventually the moment catch up. Russell: Oh, that's awesome. Well, I'd be looking at it like, if I was you, it'd be like, what do these people identify as, right? You know, McCall did Charisma Hackers. I did Funnel Hackers. What do you people consider themselves? Are they creators? The whole creator economy is a big thing. I'm a creator, I'm a go live creator. Are they doing physical projects? Are they experts? I look at how they would identify themselves. In fact, I don't even ask them. Hey, there's a lot of different people in this group. How would you self-identify yourself? And do a little quiz or survey, and see what the words that they're using. Because I didn't come up with funnel hacker, by the way. It's interesting. I had a webinar called the Funnel Hacks webinar, and we sold a course called Funnel Hacking Secrets or something like that, or Funnel Hacks. Anyway, whatever it was. And it was someone in our forum who posted, "Good morning, funnel hackers! Blah, blah, blah, blah." And I was like, "Oh, that's so cool! They called themselves funnel hackers." And they're like, "Oh!" And then like, "We need to..." And that started the whole thing. It wasn't something I came up with. It was like, they said it, someone said it. I wish I knew who said it, because I'd like give them an award or something. But someone said it in our little Facebook group of maybe 2000 or 3000 people at the time. And I was just like, "That's the coolest..." I remember like literally calling Dylan and Todd. And I was like, "It is the coolest thing. Someone just calls themselves a funnel hacker." Like, ah! So I would maybe ask your people and like, how would you identify yourself? Like, what are you? What would you call yourself? You can tell them, "We're building a tribe here. What should we call ourselves? We need a cool name." And see what the people in the group, kind of what they come up with as well. Larry: We are fearless live goal getters, but they like that name, but maybe I should reiterate it. Russell: Yeah. So there are fierce side go-getters so like with people who build funnels, so are we go-getters? Are we livers? Are we... Something. Something. Larry: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Russell: So very cool. Congrats, man. That's awesome. The Two Comma Club's the hardest. By the way, for who does is that after you get past the Two Comma Club, at least for me, there's a mental block for three years to break. Then after I got it, the rest of business got really. That's like the hardest one, is that first two Comma Clubs. One Comma Club is huge. Anyway, you get it. That's awesome. Larry: Thank you. Thank you. You're fantastic. Don: Love it. Awesome. Okay. So we have Michael Vale. Michael, you're not on camera, but I'm sure you're there. Yep. Michael: Yeah, I'm here. I'm actually hiding at work, so I can't put the camera on. Don: Understand. Michael: Yeah. That's a little different question for you, Russell. I love the way that you include your family, and I got to meet your two kids and your wife at Funnel Hacking Live. You'll have. And I know you're trying to get your boy cut up to be a little bit, but how does this play into the relationship world? Kind of an odd question, but... Russell: Say it again. So how does having my- Michael: Well, I'm just one of your hacker hire, but to see that and to see you share your faith, bring, for me, validity. It makes you aesthetic as a person. And how does that build relationships out in the community? , Russell: So, I think Myron Golden said, he said, "You don't attract who you want, you attract who you are." And so initially, I would try to get whoever into my world and I would kind of hide who I was more so, and I got people who I actually didn't like very much. If you've read the intro to Dotcom Secrets, I talk about how one day I woke up and I hated all my customers because I wasn't being like... And I hate the cliche. Like, "You need to be more authentic!" I was like, all right, well, I'm going to start sharing everything in my life. And I remember I started talking about my wrestling, I started talking about my kids back then. We just had our twins. I told that story, and I started with my wife. And it was crazy because I talked about these things, people who liked me started coming into my world. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I actually like these people that I'm serving now," because we attract who we like. And there's people who… you know, it was years before I was willing to talk about God and my beliefs there, because I was like scared, like, "Ah!" And I started doing it and it was crazy, because one of two things happening. They didn't believe in God and they're like, "I don't care. Russell's cool for this." Or that you like, "Oh, I'm offended because you talked about that," and left. And I was like, "Sweet. That's great that they're gone." You know what I mean? And it's just interesting because the more I've done it, the more the people who we attract, I like them more and it's are exciting. And so I think it's just... I don't know. And I get a question a lot like, well, "Are you scared showing your kids on Instagram? Are you scared?" And yes, it's scary. At the same time, this is the world we live in today. You know what I mean? There comes a point where you've got to trade your kids, you got to do stuff, you got to pray that things are going to be safe and then hope for the best. And you know what I mean? And so, I don't know. It's being willing to share those things that are scary. And I'm not vulnerable at the point where I'm sharing everything about my life, but I definitely introduce people so they know who I am and where I stand and my values. Because at the end of day, I want more of those people around me. And there's people who come into our world who don't have my values, but a lot of times we transition, right? They come in because I make money, make money. And then they keep coming, then we talk about this and eventually like, "Huh." You start thinking about things differently. And so it's just being willing and open to share those kind of things. And if you do it, then it'll attract the right people. So yeah, I think for everybody just be being okay with that. Don's a great example of this, right? Don, I've seen a transformation in him over the last year and I love him. I love him however he wants to be. I don't care. And I respect him. He's a great friend, so it doesn't matter to me. And it's the same thing. Right? And some people, I'm sure you've lost friends, I'm sure you've gained friends. And it's like, who cares? Are long as the people I want are going to be around me and that's amazing. And the people who are not okay with that, they're gone and that's amazing too. It makes life so much better. I think it's like, all us should be who we want to be, and I think it's awesome. Michael: Thank you, Russell. Thank you. Russell: Hey, can we actually... I see Luke over here. Can we do one more question? Because I'm curious… Don: Don't worry. Don't worry. He's here. I just very quickly, I just want to say thank you, Russell, for that, by the way. It's my turn to cry. I made it through three days without crying, which is not easy for me. Losing people in my life like you was my biggest fear. Not because of who you are, because of the stories I told myself. So thank you for letting me love unapologetically and love myself unconditionally. I appreciate it. Russell: No worries, man. Don: Hey, Luke. So what you don't know about Luke yet, maybe, Russell, is Luke is 12, just turned 13, spoke on this symposium as one of the 35 amazing speakers, and did it on his birthday. And he courageously has raised his hand to ask the Russell Brunson a question. Luke, let's go, buddy. Luke: Hey Russell, I'm a super big fan. I have Dotcom Secrets. It's completely stained and everything because I've carried it everywhere around with me. And my brother he created- Russell: My kids don't think I'm cool, so if you could let him know, that'd be awesome. Luke: My brother, he's a huge fan. He created his own landing page, promoting your book at the age of seven. And so he loves you too. My question for you is how do you get credibility at a young age in an adult world? Russell: Ooh, that's that's a great question. So, I would say first off you're doing it. Like the bigger thing is in people's minds, and I'm the same way. We ought to set our our minds, like, "I can't be successful because of blah." Right. "Because I'm too young, I'm too old, I've got..." Everyone's got an excuse of why they can't do it, but what's crazy is like, when I got started, as I started doing stuff, people were like, "Oh my gosh, you're so young. This is cool." Right? And then you seem a little bit older. I think more of it's a mental thing. The fact you are here, there's a whole bunch of speakers on here, and I kept seeing your face. And I was like, "I want to talk to that guy. I want to talk to that guy the most. Like everyone else, oh, they're all boring adults. They're like, blah. Who cares?" I want to talk to you, that's why I called you at the end. So I think it's actually like a superpower. Like, usually the things that we are afraid of or we think are going to be are limiting things, end up becoming our superpowers. Right? And I think it's just leaning into it and being okay with it. Because most of that is just in our head, thinking like, I can't do it because of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I can't do it. Everyone's got excuse. I'm still to this day have tons of excuses. Like, I can't do it because I talk too fast or I'm not as cool as somebody else, or blah, blah, blah. We all have these same things. I think it's just understanding that that's actually a superpower. The fact that you're young and you're having success and you're doing these things is going to attract more people to you. More people are going to want to have you speaking at their events. And no lens. I don't know if you know Noah yet, but he was, I think, I think he was 11 or 12 when he somehow figured out my Voxer ID, hacked into my Voxer ID, and started messaging me. Anyway, I was just like, there's this young kid messaging me and... and I don't know. I wasn't scared. So if I started, do I respond back or not? Because it's a weird conversation and then I just showed you the message. It was so funny because he's like, "Hey Russell, I found an error on your funnel. Here's the fix, send it to your tech guy," and sent it to me. I was like, "What?" An 11 year old kid like found an error on my thing and then sent it to me. Right? And then the next day he's like, "Hey Russell, you talked about this thing. So I built an entire funnel that you could use to give your audience just as a gift. Here's the share funnel link if you want to use it. If not, that's totally cool as well." And then something else, he's like, "Hey, I took your sales page. I think I got a better hook so I rebuilt it. Feel free to A-B split test." And he kept sending me these things and eventually like, "Who are you?" And we started talking, and he's a young kid, same kind of thing. And then his story was so cool. I introduced a bunch of people and he introduced himself, and he spoke at one of our events and just all these doors got open because he was young. Right? If would've been a 35 year old dude, I just would have blocked everything because he was young, I was curious and it opened up all these things. And so I would just lean into it and realize that what you have as youth is a superpower. It's not a negative thing at all, and people are going to see you and just be blown away by what you're doing, and just keep doing it. And anyway, so hope that helps. Luke: Yeah, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much, Russell. Russell: No worries. Thank you. Don: So Luke, I don't know if you know, but Russell has this really awesome event. I know personally that he said a number of times that behind Funnel Hacking Live. It's his favorite, if not a dead heat for his favorite, it's called unlock the secrets. And it's a family driven event and we were able to go to the one that happened in I think Denver in 2019, but is there a rumor that you're going to do another one, Russell? Russell: We do have one coming up. So Luke, if you want a message my team we'll invite you and your family. You guys can come to it. It's awesome. It's going to be in Arizona. Where are you from? Luke: I'm in Canada. Russell: In Canada. Okay. Well, if you can break out of Canada, it's in Arizona, I think in June of this year. So message Chris or someone. He can connect you with that with my assistant, and we'll give you your family tickets if you guys want to come to it. Yeah. It's a family event. Luke: I would love that. Russell: Last time we did it, I think we had 300 or 400 like teenagers there and it was like the coolest experience ever. This year's going to be even cooler, so. Don: Russell, do you have time for me to tell one quick anecdote before we do something for Chris? Russell: Yeah. Don: The anecdote is about Unlock the Secrets, and number one, I'm a huge for family person, so I love the fact that during that event, you light up in a different way. And taking pictures of you, you make different faces, you act a little differently just because you're nurturing what you love about life in children, and it's so fun to watch. Two things. I watched a person, a young man, sitting at the corner of one of the edge of the roads, and he was furiously typing and doing stuff. And I kind of looked at his mom and she goes, yeah, and she kind of did this thing. And I was like, what? And she goes, "He's building another funnel." And I'm like, "Oh, another funnel?" And I was like... And I have a picture. He turned it around and he had his ClickFunnels page open and he scrolled it for me. He had dozens and dozens and dozens of that. This like 11 year old had designed himself. And then Noah, my interaction with him was when I was photographing him on stage, you allowed people to ask some questions at the panel. And they said, "Hey, I'm just curious. What do you charge to build a funnel?" You remember this? Russell: This is the best ever! Don: You want to tell everybody? Russell: Yeah. He's like, "Actually, I don't charge people for funnels anymore. I only trade for equity." Don: Uh-huh (affirmative). He's like, "I don't charge hourly. I only do it for equity." And I was literally like, "This kid is my idol now." He's not even in high school, and he doesn't do it for hourly wage. He only does it for equity. So, Luke, if I have the honor and pleasure of seeing you at Unlock the Secrets, I can't wait to see your funnel, and you can tell me that you want equity in my company to help me with something. Luke: I'm super excited. Don: Appreciate you, Luke. Russell: I love my… My kids actually told me this morning, I was driving to school. And Ellie's like, "Dad, you're the least mature adult that we know." Or something like that. And I'm like, "Thank you. That's amazing." Don: It's the Peter Pan quote, right? We have to get older, but we never have to grow up. That's all there is to it. Russell: Yes, exactly. Don: Hey Christopher, as we wrap up, I'm sure you're going to have words for Russell. I'm going to have a few myself, but I need to find you in my list. There you are. Russell: He passed out, he’s tired. Let's give him a break. Don: He is. He's probably sleeping. Hey buddy, how you doing? Christopher: Doing good. Don: Blown away. Blown away. Christopher, do me a favor. I'm sure Russell has very busy and important things to do. He's graced us with 90 minutes of his time. Now that we were able to surprise you with this, thank Russell for his time and thank you. What do you have to say to Russell before he goes and we wrap things up? Christopher: Thank you. Thanks for being here, and this is a dream come true. This is not the last symposium for Return on Relationship. I call this a movement, not just an event. And it just means the world to me, Russell, to have your support, and to have everyone's support. Everyone that came out to speak, and all of you that came out to attend. I want people to think differently about how they build relationships. I think this is something that's a need and I can't wait for all of you to go away from here and take everything that you've learned and apply it and change your lives. And Russell, you mentioned it when you told the story about Dave, what great news that we got about Dave. He's an incredible individual. I look up to him about as much as I look up to you, and I already thank you publicly, but yeah, relationships saved my life. I'm here putting on this symposium because I met you, and I never would've met Wallace Nelson if it wasn't for meeting you, and relationships to the foundation, for everything in your life; and just thank you, Russell, for being here and supporting me in my first symposium. It means the world to me. Thank you. And all of you, thank you. Russell: No worries, man. I'm proud of you for doing it. It takes a lot to put something like this together and to have the vision and everything. So, proud of you man, for doing it. And it's just the beginning, not the end. This is the beginning of, I think, your business, your movement and everything. So, proud of you and love you, man. Christopher: Love you too. Thank you. Don: Everybody wave at Russell. Thank Russell. Russell, thank you, man, for being here. We appreciate you so much. We'll see you again soon. Russell: Thanks everyone! Christopher: Thanks Russell! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Dec 2021 09:00:00 -0000 ROR - Q&A Session (3 of 3) full 472 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this final segment, you get to hear Russell answer some questions from the attendees of the ROR Symposium. If you have enjoyed these episodes about the importance of relationships, please check out  to learn more! Hit me up on IG!... In this final segment, you get to hear Russell answer some questions from the attendees of the ROR Symposium. If you have enjoyed these episodes about the importance of relationships, please check out RORUniversity.com to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. All right. What did you guys think? Did you like the keynote presentation so far? I hope you did. Hopefully it gave you some ideas about how we grow a business using relationships and joint ventures and the Dream 100, and give you guys some realistic expectations on how the game is played. Hope you guys enjoyed it so far. Now at the end of the symposium, they opened up to Q&A, which was really fun. And so I had a chance to do some Q&A, answer some questions, and we kind of jumped all over the board. So this episode will be fun. You'll get a couple different perspectives on some questions. My guess is that one of the questions you're going to hear is a question that you're probably wondering or something maybe you should have asked and didn't even think about it. So I hope this gives you a some value and you get some benefit from it. Once again, I want to thank Christopher Voss for allowed me to use my presentation from his ROR symposium for the podcast episode. If you want to follow Christopher and learn more about what he's doing and how to build better relationships in your business, get more traffic, build more referrals and things like that, make sure you go to roruniversity.com and get on his list. All right, that said, I'm going to open up the third and final episode from our ROR symposium. We had a chance to do some Q&A with me, and I hope you guys enjoy it. Thanks so much. Don: One of my capacities today, just in this hour, is to be bouncer. So y'all get on the velvet rope, I've got my clipboard. I will let you go first, McCall, because I can see you on my screen. McCall, we've got 10 or 15 minutes, so just do me a favor, people: ask Russell your question with a certain amount of concise nature, and then he can answer it, because we have one last thing we need to do before Russell goes, and then we can wrap up the symposium. So McCall, go ahead. Unmute yourself and ask your question. McCall: Hi! Okay. I want to know who's on your list next. Don: Ooh. McCall: You got to have a list of people who you are always trying to connect with. I know you've gone to Tony Robbins. I mean, I know there are, but who are the people who you are actively trying to connect with now? Are you going to share it with us? Is it a secret? Is it supposed to be a secret? Am I missing something here? Russell: That's a good question. Maybe I'll put out the word, and guys can go find these people for me. McCall: Yes! Russell: It's interesting, and partially it's kind of where my life, like number one... Okay. So partially it's because I started getting obsessed with UFC during COVID, so I enjoyed watching more UFC fights... So this will make sense in a second. Also, I'm working on my success and personal development books right now, so it kind of opens up the reason why also. But the two people that I really am looking forward to eventually is Dana White and Joe Rogan. Those two guys are super fascinating to me. I don't agree with- McCall: Joe Rogan and, who was the first one? Russell: Dana White, who's the owner of UFC. Both of them, I don't agree with our belief system, like half, but they fascinate me on the other half and I have the ability to... Hopefully, all of us can learn is you can disagree with somebody on a lot of things and still have respect from them and still learn from them, so. But those are the two I'm really fascinated by and I have so many things... I'm not a very good interviewer, but man, if I sit down for an hour or two them, I would have so many things I want to ask them and like, ah, those guys fascinate me, so. McCall: Do you just do it in a Kevin Bacon way? Where you're like, okay, the six degrees of Kevin Bacon away from Joe Rogan and Dana White, and you just like start to eliminate? Russell: Definitely. There's that, but there's also like, is there a way I can incorporate Joe? How can I serve Joe Rogan? Right? He's the biggest podcast, my podcast doesn't help him, but I'll put him on stage potentially. Or there's something we could do, or... What's the next thing? If he's going to be doing his comedy shows, maybe I could find out like, "Hey, I can help fill a show in a city. We can do a funnel." Something like that where I can use my unique abilities to help magnify something they're doing. Or Dana White, I don't know how I'd serve him yet, but that would be kind of the thing. And then yes, it's looking at degrees of separation. I do know that Grand Cardone had Dana White on stage, I know there's that; I know Alex Sharpton is moving next door to Joe Rogan. So there's all kind of things. But I'm not like, "Hey Sharpton, can you call Joe Rogan for me? What's his address?" I'm not doing that, because I don't want to be the creepy guy. But I'm like, okay, I do know there's connection points, and who and how and all this kind of things. And then I'm also trying to pay attention to him. So like when I do have a chance to meet them the very first time, I can have an intelligent conversation. I can tell when people are prepared to meet me, because they... Like today, I had a guy that I'm potentially interviewing for a big position. And it was in the conversation, I could just... like, little things. He asked something about wrestling. I was like, "Oh, how do you like wrestling?" And he's like, "Your kid's wrestle?" I was like, I literally Instagramed a picture of Aiden on a wrestling mat last night. He did his homework, so we had this thing, and that's when I was like, "Oh, he is cool because he's paying attention." And all of a sudden I was like, "Ah, he got me. I trust this guy now because he had that commonality." And so, I'm trying to pay enough attention to them, what they're doing, where I could have a... Not that I have to agree with him, but I can like have a conversation. Like, "Hey, I don't agree with this. What do you think?" Sometimes agreeing with people don't create the connection points. The disagreement, you can have a discussion. That gets more fascinating and you get closer to someone through that than you ever could like, "Oh, you're so cool." People don't want to feel like they're being worshiped, they want to feel like an equal. So it's like, you get a mentally stimulating conversation with somebody that you disagree with, sometimes that's the best connection. I don't have the same opinion of that person, but that was the fascinating view to look at it through. And so, just gotta do my homework there. And yeah, stuff like that. McCall: That's cool. Thanks man! Russell: No worries. Don: Awesome. Okay, next... That's how rumors get started. Did you guys know that Russell's getting into UFC? He's going to be the ultimate fighter champion. Russell: I’m ready for it, let's go. Don: Let's go! All right, Daniel, you're next. Go ahead. Russell: I think if I was to have just retired from wrestling right now in my life, I 100% would be going towards UFC. Now that I'm an old man, I can't. And I didn't understand fighting back when I did get done competing, but if I was graduating from competition right now, I had 100% be in the UFC, or trying to be in the UFC, for sure. Don: And I had no idea that you were such a pop culture reference person. I've seen you do it stage a few time, but you did it in this small group, and I'm like, "Thank God. Russell and I have this in common." Because my immediate thought when you talked about it was, you can be like the guy from friends when John Favreau tries to be the ultimate fighting champion. He's passed his prime there and he has to give up the dream. But anyway. Daniel, go ahead with your question. Daniel: All right. First up, thank you so much, Russell. It's such an honor to be here in the same room as you. It's because of you, my mindset has switched from the mindset of just wanting to earn more money to serving people. I'm a big fan of you and your podcast, and especially Marketing In Your Car. That totally rocks. And my question… Russell: By the way, did you notice that? Now I know, first off, he's paid attention, but it wasn't just like, "Oh, I bought your book." He's like, Marketing In Your Car, which is my old podcast, he paid attention to. Yeah, so checked out connection point, now I'm like this guy's a real fan. I actually trust him even more. So, very good for you. That was awesome. Daniel: I love for you, Russell. I love you so much. So your latest podcast where you mentioned about the reasons for entry versus the reasons to stay, from Dan Kennedy. So I believe that we can also use that same framework for our Dream 100 too. If yes, could you expound a little bit more on that for me, please? Russell: Yeah. For sure. Those who don't know the reference yet, I did a podcast about this fax right here. Hold on. Oh, it’s not this one, dang it. Anyway, Dan only sends things through fax. So, there's fax that we got, which was like the fax he sent to the guy who bought it before me about how the other company destroyed his brand and his name, and there's a whole bunch of these little nuggets. So I shared one nugget, which was the difference between why people come into your business and why they stay in your business. They're different, right? For example, in our Mastermind, people come, it's like, "I want to be in my Russell's Mastermind!" And they get there and they're like, "Russell's not that cool, but all the people here are amazing!" And they stick because of the community of people, right? So it's like, I'm the hook to get him in, but this is what you're actually paying for is this amazing community. Right? And Dan was talking about, because for them, it's like, people come in because they want the money making secret of whatever, but they stay for the community and the newsletter, and Dan and his thoughts. It's understanding that they come and they stick for different reasons. And so Dream 100's very similar. I think a good practical example is like when we launched ClickFunnels, I was trying to find people that we could build funnels for free. Right? So I called a bunch of like bigger name people. Tony was one, Dave Asprey, a bunch of people who I woke up to. And I was like, "Hey, can I build you a funnel for your new book launch or for your thing?" It's like, they came because I wanted to serve them, do a thing like that. But then, that's how I got to know him. Right? I had a chance to go to Bulletproof Cafe and film Dave Asprey and get to know him, and become personal with him and like build a relationship. And so the hook was what got him to say yes to the meeting and to me spending half a day with him. Right? But then after that, the relationship stuck because of the other things. Does that make sense? So it's kind of the same thing. How do I surge enough hook to get them in so you have time to build relationships. That's the hardest thing. Right now it's hard because my time's so busy. How am I going to have time to… I can’t please everybody? So it's like, what's the hook? Like, what's something I can bring this value to you. It's like, "Okay, I got 30 minutes. Let's figure this out." And then during that window, if you build a relationship now, they stick for that. And I think that's a lot of times the way you open the door is through how can I serve you? For me, it's like, I don't have many talents, but funnels is one of them. So I built funnels for a lot of people. And nowadays, those other people aren't get ahold. Well, I don't necessarily build a funnel, but I'm like, "Hey, we want to migrate you over. I got a few amazing people to help you do your thing and build it out." And that way, again, we're serving them, getting it like, "Hey, now your things on ClickFunnel's platform." And then now, relationship is built. So I think that's probably how I look at it from an affiliate standpoint. Daniel: So yeah, just like going all out to serve them and just having that house service, and from there on, you build a reciprocity, and that's how you continue on the relationship. Thank you so much, Russell. Really appreciate you. Russell: No worries. Here’s an example, when Dave was out with somebody, we were at this thing and we'd asked this guy... We knew who it was. He's a friend but not best buddies. And we had ClickFunnels. It was when ClickFunnels first came out. We asked him three or four times, like, "Hey, you want to help us..." And he was just like, "No, no." And then Dave found out that he lives in Australia, he was flying back to Australia, and he wanted this surfboard. So Dave went and bought the surfboard, and then tried to give it to him that will miss the thing. So David had to jump in a car and drive three hours to the airport to get it to him and all this stuff. And then he flew back to Australia, he called me, he's like, "Man, Dave literally bought the thing I was looking for, drove it to me, got it for me in time. Now I have it here." He's like, "I have to roll ClickFunnels now." So Dave was the hook, and I was like, "Oh, you guys serve a level that nobody else does." Like, yes. Okay. Now I'll do the thing. And back, one of our early promoters, way back in the day. So anyway, just, it's always looking for that, like how do you help the people out first? Daniel: Amazing. Amazing. Thank you so much, Russell. Appreciate it. Russell: No worries. Thank you. Daniel: God bless. Don: Great question, Daniel. Thanks for being a real life example of what we're supposed to be doing, man. Russell was able to point out three things you did right, right there. That was amazing. All right, Jim, you're next buddy. Mr. Show, go ahead and unmute yourself and ask Russell your question. And try not to get in trouble. Jim: Don't get trouble. That's harsh. Russell: I'm like, "Cut the mic, cut the mic." Jim: Yeah. Russell: "Get him off, get him off." Don: I'm just kidding. Jim and I have had a really great relationship. He's been helping out, and he's going to help me out with something a little bit. Russell: Very good. Jim: Yes. So I focus on live streaming because I'm addicted to it. I think that Twitch is the future and I'm just trying to bring it here a little faster. And to entrepreneurs in particular, and I love the relationships that come from it. I had a game show called Exes Knows game show that formed amazing relationships. But it was very tight-knit, small family kind of a thing. So like, I want to give that to the audience too, and I wanted to know with like you have the Marketing Secrets show, and when you did that YouTube video, like I got giddy. You were like, "You need a show." I was like, "Yeah." But I just want to know if you had any recommendations for how to make it, that personal feel of being on the show, how can I give that to the audience? Russell: Mm. So I know what Twitch is because my kids watch video games on it and stuff. So can you explain so I understand like, are you in Twitch shows like more like, business type stuff? Or how are you… Jim: Yeah. If you go under Just Chatting for Twitch, they have actual shows. And shows like talk shows, interviews, game shows like what I ended up doing. They have round tables and all sorts of things that are not game centric, and the audiences are just loving it. They're adoring it. And they have things like Patreon to where you can take that step closer. They had exclusive content and things. So I was thinking of doing something more like that, but I'm not a big fan of Patreon. I just want to give that to them anyway. Russell: Yeah. It's funny. Again, this is mostly because I don't understand how the whole platform works. We talked about like, "We should do a Twitch show where people are just building funnels all day long, and my kids watch video games, and like..." We talked about it a couple times, so it's interesting. Again, I haven't done it on the platform, so I don't know exactly how it worked, but I think conceptually, the way you build communities is a couple things, right? Number one is like, people have to feel like they're a part of something. So it's not just like a bunch of randos coming to an event. It's like for Funnel Hacking Live, it’s a bunch of funnel hackers come to an event. Like, they're coming, and it's not like they're showing up just randomly. It's like, this is my people. I'm part of this. It's a tribe, it's a community. They're part of it, right? Just like family reunion, you go back and it's like, all my family comes together because we're family. And you can talk forever because it's a family mixed with family. And so we always try to create that, but it comes with people identifying with the thing you're doing, right? Expert Seekers talks a lot about this, but it's like those kind things. How do you get people to self-identify so they feel like they're part of the thing as opposed, I'm going to watch a show. Like I'm part of this, right? When we do ClickFunnel specifically, I was like, if people think it's Russell's company, they're not going to... It might be successful, but it'll stop. I was like, I want people to feel like ClickFunnels is our software. This is our company together. Right? And so you look at my languaging that I talk through things. I'm never like, "My company ClickFunnels." I'm like, "Yeah, it's a community." I'm like, "This is ClickFunnels, we have this community." And I'm trying to make it our company, not my company. Because no one cares if my company succeeds or not, but they care if our company, if our movement, if our culture, if our thing is different. Right? And so it's like, how do we make it we instead of just you? And I think that's one reason we've had so much success inside of our industries, I look at everybody else and everybody else doesn't do that. Everyone else is like, them and about them and about the thing. And it's like, we try to be us and try to make people feel tighter. And then you don't have to necessarily monetize on Patreon or whatever. It could be just swag. Like for example, we had Derral Eves came and spoke at our last Inner Circle meeting and he... Jim: I love Derral Eves. Russell: I don't know if you guys know the Chosen, but they've done $29 million in t-shirt sales on the back of the Chosen. So the content's completely free. Everything's free out there. But because the community and people want it, just in t-shirt sales. Right? And they've done a lot more in other stuff. But if you think about that, it's like, all the content's completely free, but it's the community. And so it's looking at that like how it's going to monetize it. Maybe it's not a paid thing or Patreon or whatever, but what do you have? Is it swag? For me, it's software. My whole goal is to get people into software eventually. Dan Kennedy was all about newsletters, physical newsletters is their thing that they monetize. And so it's just looking at like what monetization vehicle is exciting for you, and then making that the thing that, that you plug people into. It could be anything. It could be, again, software supplements. It could be all of us drink the same drink, supplement drink. Whatever the thing is. But there's this commonality thing that ties everybody together where they have this unique experience. In fact, prove it's a network marketing company I've done a lot of work with in the past. But everyone's drinking Ketones. Literally, the drink that they're drinking is what ties this community together, and they all have Ketone shirts and all these things, but that's the glue that ties all the people together, where they're all doing the same things. For me, it's software; other people, it's supplements; some people, it's new... whatever the thing is that glues the tribe together. Jim: Awesome. Thank you so much. I really appreciate the time. Russell: Sunday, if I remember on Twitch, doing the funnel hacker, funnel building show. I'll have to consult with you. Jim: Check out Just Chatting, man. It's really, really fun. Russell: Yeah. Very cool. Don: Awesome. Thank you so much, Jim. That's a great question. Russell, we have three more hands raised, and I've kind of cut it off and said that we're not going to have any more time. So if we could just take the last few questions, and then we'll wrap things up. Tammy, you're next. Could you please unmute and ask your question? Tammy: Hey Russell. I am so excited to have the opportunity. Thank you very much. And you mentioned something that was kind of a segue as to what I wanted to ask you, had I ever got the opportunity to ask you. And here it is! Tell me a little bit about the Funnel Hacker t-shirt. And the reason I asked is because this is what I do. I help clients make connections with their clients and customers, and love on them and kind of work their way through building these amazing relationships. And I use the Funnel Hacker t-shirt as an example all of the time. It's crazy. I don't even know if you know. Do you know you can't even go on eBay and buy a Funnel Hackers t-shirt. Like, occasionally you could find one, but most generally- Russell: A nasty one somebody had… Tammy: ... you just can't, man. I mean, you just can't find it. And so, it is a coveted item that defines your community. It gives them a jumping off point, not because it has your logo on it. I don't even think that's the brilliant part of this. The reason is because you have, either intentionally or not intentionally, you have connected with the end product of what you're delivering, and people self-identify with that to the point of, they want to be what it is that you offer. And I think people miss that so much in the branding. I see that in my business and things that I do; people want to slap their logo on it. Their first thing's like, let's put a logo on it and it's not about you. Can you speak to that just a little bit? Because got to love it. Russell: 100%. So I remember going to T&C before we launched Funnel Hacking Live. And I remember they gave swag items, and it was weird things. Like, one was a tuxedo and the things... And everybody got home and had them, and I just kind of threw them away and I didn't do anything with it. I remember we were building swag, I definitely didn't do this intentionally, but then after it happened, I realized it, and then we doubled down on that. And so what we realized is that, 100% of what you said. So yes, everything you said has my mark of approval. They have to identify. If they can't say I am a blank, they're not going to connect with it. Right? So I am a funnel hacker. I am a biohacker. I am a lady boss. I am a funnel builder. You can say, "I am a..." And then the word. That's how it is. Because I put it on like, I'm a funnel hacker. This is funnel hacker. But they have to be able to say that, "I am a..." Whatever. Expert Seekers would be a horrible t-shirt. I'm an Expert Seekers. No, I am a ClickFunnels. No, this is not going to work. It's not going to create a movement. Right here, Dan. Right? "I am diehard. I'm a diehard funnel hacker." That's the amplification of it. Right? But you wear that because that's who you are. I am a... Boom. And so that's what self identifies. And wearing a tuxedo thing was weird. I can't remember the one they had. I remember specifically, because Funnel Hacking Live was like a year later or something. And I remember thinking like I want swag that people would wear. And what's crazy now is I get texts probably two or three times a week from friends who are like, "I'm in Malaysia on those little carts." And as I'm driving down the street, there's this dude. They are taking pictures. "This dude in the middle of nowhere is wearing your shirt." And like, I get texts. It's like the craziest thing. Someone the day was like, "I'm in an airport in Singapore," "I'm in Australia," "I'm in New Zea-". All these things, and they're sending these random shirts, yeah I see a bunch of you guys wearing them. And it's just the coolest thing. And it's been spread through. If you notice nowadays, not all of them, sometimes they have different reasons, but almost all of our core shirts that we give away or do things with, always the test for me is like, "Can I say I am a blank?" If we can, sweet. If not... maybe it's something that's like a cool whatever, but it's not like a movement making something that someone wears. And so yes, 100% agree. And that's why we do it. And again, I don't think I did it up front. In fact, I think it was actually Kaelin Poulin. Because we had Funnel Hacker, and she had launched her swag stuff and a bunch of them didn't work. And then the one that just said LadyBoss on it, she came back, and I remember in our Inner Circle meeting, that's what she said. She's like I realize if they can't say I am a whatever, they don't self-identify, she's like, "We may sell it, but for us to sell a lot, it's like the self-identification gives people to actually buy, wear it, all that kind of stuff." So, very cool. Tammy: Thank you. Daniel: Awesome. Great question. Okay, Larry. And then we've got the last two. So Larry, go ahead and unmute and ask your question. Larry: Thank you. Thank you, Russell. For this wonderful speech. I'm really excited, because I started my journey three years ago with your Secrets books, and I have read them dozens of times, and audiobooks also. So I very well know your concepts of Dream 100 and making movements. I just want to, to ask you, I'm starting to make movement. It's a really, really small, really small group of fearless live go-getters. We are fighting the fear of going lives and starting those lives in the business. So what's your recommendation for me? I have finally a month and a half ago started to get some traction. I joined One Comma Club. So how to make that movement. Russell: So your people are going live like on Facebook. Is that what we're talking about? Larry: Yes. Yes. Since inside of the group, we are practicing, and later they are starting using that in their business. Russell: Okay. And then what type of people are you trading? Larry: Entrepreneurs and marketers. Russell: Do they fall in a certain subcategory underneath that? Larry: Yeah. Well, yes, they are people who actually haven't done those lives at all, but can realize very fast the power of it and have to overcome that fear. I'm also introverted, just like you, and I have done 160 lives in a row just to persuade myself. And during that period, I have persuaded so many people, so eventually the moment catch up. Russell: Oh, that's awesome. Well, I'd be looking at it like, if I was you, it'd be like, what do these people identify as, right? You know, McCall did Charisma Hackers. I did Funnel Hackers. What do you people consider themselves? Are they creators? The whole creator economy is a big thing. I'm a creator, I'm a go live creator. Are they doing physical projects? Are they experts? I look at how they would identify themselves. In fact, I don't even ask them. Hey, there's a lot of different people in this group. How would you self-identify yourself? And do a little quiz or survey, and see what the words that they're using. Because I didn't come up with funnel hacker, by the way. It's interesting. I had a webinar called the Funnel Hacks webinar, and we sold a course called Funnel Hacking Secrets or something like that, or Funnel Hacks. Anyway, whatever it was. And it was someone in our forum who posted, "Good morning, funnel hackers! Blah, blah, blah, blah." And I was like, "Oh, that's so cool! They called themselves funnel hackers." And they're like, "Oh!" And then like, "We need to..." And that started the whole thing. It wasn't something I came up with. It was like, they said it, someone said it. I wish I knew who said it, because I'd like give them an award or something. But someone said it in our little Facebook group of maybe 2000 or 3000 people at the time. And I was just like, "That's the coolest..." I remember like literally calling Dylan and Todd. And I was like, "It is the coolest thing. Someone just calls themselves a funnel hacker." Like, ah! So I would maybe ask your people and like, how would you identify yourself? Like, what are you? What would you call yourself? You can tell them, "We're building a tribe here. What should we call ourselves? We need a cool name." And see what the people in the group, kind of what they come up with as well. Larry: We are fearless live goal getters, but they like that name, but maybe I should reiterate it. Russell: Yeah. So there are fierce side go-getters so like with people who build funnels, so are we go-getters? Are we livers? Are we... Something. Something. Larry: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Russell: So very cool. Congrats, man. That's awesome. The Two Comma Club's the hardest. By the way, for who does is that after you get past the Two Comma Club, at least for me, there's a mental block for three years to break. Then after I got it, the rest of business got really. That's like the hardest one, is that first two Comma Clubs. One Comma Club is huge. Anyway, you get it. That's awesome. Larry: Thank you. Thank you. You're fantastic. Don: Love it. Awesome. Okay. So we have Michael Vale. Michael, you're not on camera, but I'm sure you're there. Yep. Michael: Yeah, I'm here. I'm actually hiding at work, so I can't put the camera on. Don: Understand. Michael: Yeah. That's a little different question for you, Russell. I love the way that you include your family, and I got to meet your two kids and your wife at Funnel Hacking Live. You'll have. And I know you're trying to get your boy cut up to be a little bit, but how does this play into the relationship world? Kind of an odd question, but... Russell: Say it again. So how does having my- Michael: Well, I'm just one of your hacker hire, but to see that and to see you share your faith, bring, for me, validity. It makes you aesthetic as a person. And how does that build relationships out in the community? , Russell: So, I think Myron Golden said, he said, "You don't attract who you want, you attract who you are." And so initially, I would try to get whoever into my world and I would kind of hide who I was more so, and I got people who I actually didn't like very much. If you've read the intro to Dotcom Secrets, I talk about how one day I woke up and I hated all my customers because I wasn't being like... And I hate the cliche. Like, "You need to be more authentic!" I was like, all right, well, I'm going to start sharing everything in my life. And I remember I started talking about my wrestling, I started talking about my kids back then. We just had our twins. I told that story, and I started with my wife. And it was crazy because I talked about these things, people who liked me started coming into my world. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I actually like these people that I'm serving now," because we attract who we like. And there's people who… you know, it was years before I was willing to talk about God and my beliefs there, because I was like scared, like, "Ah!" And I started doing it and it was crazy, because one of two things happening. They didn't believe in God and they're like, "I don't care. Russell's cool for this." Or that you like, "Oh, I'm offended because you talked about that," and left. And I was like, "Sweet. That's great that they're gone." You know what I mean? And it's just interesting because the more I've done it, the more the people who we attract, I like them more and it's are exciting. And so I think it's just... I don't know. And I get a question a lot like, well, "Are you scared showing your kids on Instagram? Are you scared?" And yes, it's scary. At the same time, this is the world we live in today. You know what I mean? There comes a point where you've got to trade your kids, you got to do stuff, you got to pray that things are going to be safe and then hope for the best. And you know what I mean? And so, I don't know. It's being willing to share those things that are scary. And I'm not vulnerable at the point where I'm sharing everything about my life, but I definitely introduce people so they know who I am and where I stand and my values. Because at the end of day, I want more of those people around me. And there's people who come into our world who don't have my values, but a lot of times we transition, right? They come in because I make money, make money. And then they keep coming, then we talk about this and eventually like, "Huh." You start thinking about things differently. And so it's just being willing and open to share those kind of things. And if you do it, then it'll attract the right people. So yeah, I think for everybody just be being okay with that. Don's a great example of this, right? Don, I've seen a transformation in him over the last year and I love him. I love him however he wants to be. I don't care. And I respect him. He's a great friend, so it doesn't matter to me. And it's the same thing. Right? And some people, I'm sure you've lost friends, I'm sure you've gained friends. And it's like, who cares? Are long as the people I want are going to be around me and that's amazing. And the people who are not okay with that, they're gone and that's amazing too. It makes life so much better. I think it's like, all us should be who we want to be, and I think it's awesome. Michael: Thank you, Russell. Thank you. Russell: Hey, can we actually... I see Luke over here. Can we do one more question? Because I'm curious… Don: Don't worry. Don't worry. He's here. I just very quickly, I just want to say thank you, Russell, for that, by the way. It's my turn to cry. I made it through three days without crying, which is not easy for me. Losing people in my life like you was my biggest fear. Not because of who you are, because of the stories I told myself. So thank you for letting me love unapologetically and love myself unconditionally. I appreciate it. Russell: No worries, man. Don: Hey, Luke. So what you don't know about Luke yet, maybe, Russell, is Luke is 12, just turned 13, spoke on this symposium as one of the 35 amazing speakers, and did it on his birthday. And he courageously has raised his hand to ask the Russell Brunson a question. Luke, let's go, buddy. Luke: Hey Russell, I'm a super big fan. I have Dotcom Secrets. It's completely stained and everything because I've carried it everywhere around with me. And my brother he created- Russell: My kids don't think I'm cool, so if you could let him know, that'd be awesome. Luke: My brother, he's a huge fan. He created his own landing page, promoting your book at the age of seven. And so he loves you too. My question for you is how do you get credibility at a young age in an adult world? Russell: Ooh, that's that's a great question. So, I would say first off you're doing it. Like the bigger thing is in people's minds, and I'm the same way. We ought to set our our minds, like, "I can't be successful because of blah." Right. "Because I'm too young, I'm too old, I've got..." Everyone's got an excuse of why they can't do it, but what's crazy is like, when I got started, as I started doing stuff, people were like, "Oh my gosh, you're so young. This is cool." Right? And then you seem a little bit older. I think more of it's a mental thing. The fact you are here, there's a whole bunch of speakers on here, and I kept seeing your face. And I was like, "I want to talk to that guy. I want to talk to that guy the most. Like everyone else, oh, they're all boring adults. They're like, blah. Who cares?" I want to talk to you, that's why I called you at the end. So I think it's actually like a superpower. Like, usually the things that we are afraid of or we think are going to be are limiting things, end up becoming our superpowers. Right? And I think it's just leaning into it and being okay with it. Because most of that is just in our head, thinking like, I can't do it because of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I can't do it. Everyone's got excuse. I'm still to this day have tons of excuses. Like, I can't do it because I talk too fast or I'm not as cool as somebody else, or blah, blah, blah. We all have these same things. I think it's just understanding that that's actually a superpower. The fact that you're young and you're having success and you're doing these things is going to attract more people to you. More people are going to want to have you speaking at their events. And no lens. I don't know if you know Noah yet, but he was, I think, I think he was 11 or 12 when he somehow figured out my Voxer ID, hacked into my Voxer ID, and started messaging me. Anyway, I was just like, there's this young kid messaging me and... and I don't know. I wasn't scared. So if I started, do I respond back or not? Because it's a weird conversation and then I just showed you the message. It was so funny because he's like, "Hey Russell, I found an error on your funnel. Here's the fix, send it to your tech guy," and sent it to me. I was like, "What?" An 11 year old kid like found an error on my thing and then sent it to me. Right? And then the next day he's like, "Hey Russell, you talked about this thing. So I built an entire funnel that you could use to give your audience just as a gift. Here's the share funnel link if you want to use it. If not, that's totally cool as well." And then something else, he's like, "Hey, I took your sales page. I think I got a better hook so I rebuilt it. Feel free to A-B split test." And he kept sending me these things and eventually like, "Who are you?" And we started talking, and he's a young kid, same kind of thing. And then his story was so cool. I introduced a bunch of people and he introduced himself, and he spoke at one of our events and just all these doors got open because he was young. Right? If would've been a 35 year old dude, I just would have blocked everything because he was young, I was curious and it opened up all these things. And so I would just lean into it and realize that what you have as youth is a superpower. It's not a negative thing at all, and people are going to see you and just be blown away by what you're doing, and just keep doing it. And anyway, so hope that helps. Luke: Yeah, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much, Russell. Russell: No worries. Thank you. Don: So Luke, I don't know if you know, but Russell has this really awesome event. I know personally that he said a number of times that behind Funnel Hacking Live. It's his favorite, if not a dead heat for his favorite, it's called unlock the secrets. And it's a family driven event and we were able to go to the one that happened in I think Denver in 2019, but is there a rumor that you're going to do another one, Russell? Russell: We do have one coming up. So Luke, if you want a message my team we'll invite you and your family. You guys can come to it. It's awesome. It's going to be in Arizona. Where are you from? Luke: I'm in Canada. Russell: In Canada. Okay. Well, if you can break out of Canada, it's in Arizona, I think in June of this year. So message Chris or someone. He can connect you with that with my assistant, and we'll give you your family tickets if you guys want to come to it. Yeah. It's a family event. Luke: I would love that. Russell: Last time we did it, I think we had 300 or 400 like teenagers there and it was like the coolest experience ever. This year's going to be even cooler, so. Don: Russell, do you have time for me to tell one quick anecdote before we do something for Chris? Russell: Yeah. Don: The anecdote is about Unlock the Secrets, and number one, I'm a huge for family person, so I love the fact that during that event, you light up in a different way. And taking pictures of you, you make different faces, you act a little differently just because you're nurturing what you love about life in children, and it's so fun to watch. Two things. I watched a person, a young man, sitting at the corner of one of the edge of the roads, and he was furiously typing and doing stuff. And I kind of looked at his mom and she goes, yeah, and she kind of did this thing. And I was like, what? And she goes, "He's building another funnel." And I'm like, "Oh, another funnel?" And I was like... And I have a picture. He turned it around and he had his ClickFunnels page open and he scrolled it for me. He had dozens and dozens and dozens of that. This like 11 year old had designed himself. And then Noah, my interaction with him was when I was photographing him on stage, you allowed people to ask some questions at the panel. And they said, "Hey, I'm just curious. What do you charge to build a funnel?" You remember this? Russell: This is the best ever! Don: You want to tell everybody? Russell: Yeah. He's like, "Actually, I don't charge people for funnels anymore. I only trade for equity." Don: Uh-huh (affirmative). He's like, "I don't charge hourly. I only do it for equity." And I was literally like, "This kid is my idol now." He's not even in high school, and he doesn't do it for hourly wage. He only does it for equity. So, Luke, if I have the honor and pleasure of seeing you at Unlock the Secrets, I can't wait to see your funnel, and you can tell me that you want equity in my company to help me with something. Luke: I'm super excited. Don: Appreciate you, Luke. Russell: I love my… My kids actually told me this morning, I was driving to school. And Ellie's like, "Dad, you're the least mature adult that we know." Or something like that. And I'm like, "Thank you. That's amazing." Don: It's the Peter Pan quote, right? We have to get older, but we never have to grow up. That's all there is to it. Russell: Yes, exactly. Don: Hey Christopher, as we wrap up, I'm sure you're going to have words for Russell. I'm going to have a few myself, but I need to find you in my list. There you are. Russell: He passed out, he’s tired. Let's give him a break. Don: He is. He's probably sleeping. Hey buddy, how you doing? Christopher: Doing good. Don: Blown away. Blown away. Christopher, do me a favor. I'm sure Russell has very busy and important things to do. He's graced us with 90 minutes of his time. Now that we were able to surprise you with this, thank Russell for his time and thank you. What do you have to say to Russell before he goes and we wrap things up? Christopher: Thank you. Thanks for being here, and this is a dream come true. This is not the last symposium for Return on Relationship. I call this a movement, not just an event. And it just means the world to me, Russell, to have your support, and to have everyone's support. Everyone that came out to speak, and all of you that came out to attend. I want people to think differently about how they build relationships. I think this is something that's a need and I can't wait for all of you to go away from here and take everything that you've learned and apply it and change your lives. And Russell, you mentioned it when you told the story about Dave, what great news that we got about Dave. He's an incredible individual. I look up to him about as much as I look up to you, and I already thank you publicly, but yeah, relationships saved my life. I'm here putting on this symposium because I met you, and I never would've met Wallace Nelson if it wasn't for meeting you, and relationships to the foundation, for everything in your life; and just thank you, Russell, for being here and supporting me in my first symposium. It means the world to me. Thank you. And all of you, thank you. Russell: No worries, man. I'm proud of you for doing it. It takes a lot to put something like this together and to have the vision and everything. So, proud of you man, for doing it. And it's just the beginning, not the end. This is the beginning of, I think, your business, your movement and everything. So, proud of you and love you, man. Christopher: Love you too. Thank you. Don: Everybody wave at Russell. Thank Russell. Russell, thank you, man, for being here. We appreciate you so much. We'll see you again soon. 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Russell Brunson:

Hey everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. All right. What did you guys think? Did you like the keynote presentation so far? I hope you did. Hopefully it gave you some ideas about how we grow a business using relationships and joint ventures and the Dream 100, and give you guys some realistic expectations on how the game is played. Hope you guys enjoyed it so far.

Now at the end of the symposium, they opened up to Q&A, which was really fun. And so I had a chance to do some Q&A, answer some questions, and we kind of jumped all over the board. So this episode will be fun. You'll get a couple different perspectives on some questions. My guess is that one of the questions you're going to hear is a question that you're probably wondering or something maybe you should have asked and didn't even think about it. So I hope this gives you a some value and you get some benefit from it.

Once again, I want to thank Christopher Voss for allowed me to use my presentation from his ROR symposium for the podcast episode. If you want to follow Christopher and learn more about what he's doing and how to build better relationships in your business, get more traffic, build more referrals and things like that, make sure you go to roruniversity.com and get on his list.

All right, that said, I'm going to open up the third and final episode from our ROR symposium. We had a chance to do some Q&A with me, and I hope you guys enjoy it. Thanks so much.

Don:

One of my capacities today, just in this hour, is to be bouncer. So y'all get on the velvet rope, I've got my clipboard. I will let you go first, McCall, because I can see you on my screen. McCall, we've got 10 or 15 minutes, so just do me a favor, people: ask Russell your question with a certain amount of concise nature, and then he can answer it, because we have one last thing we need to do before Russell goes, and then we can wrap up the symposium.

So McCall, go ahead. Unmute yourself and ask your question.

McCall:

Hi! Okay. I want to know who's on your list next.

Don:

Ooh.

McCall:

You got to have a list of people who you are always trying to connect with. I know you've gone to Tony Robbins. I mean, I know there are, but who are the people who you are actively trying to connect with now? Are you going to share it with us? Is it a secret? Is it supposed to be a secret? Am I missing something here?

Russell:

That's a good question. Maybe I'll put out the word, and guys can go find these people for me.

McCall:

Yes!

Russell:

It's interesting, and partially it's kind of where my life, like number one... Okay. So partially it's because I started getting obsessed with UFC during COVID, so I enjoyed watching more UFC fights... So this will make sense in a second. Also, I'm working on my success and personal development books right now, so it kind of opens up the reason why also. But the two people that I really am looking forward to eventually is Dana White and Joe Rogan. Those two guys are super fascinating to me. I don't agree with-

McCall:

Joe Rogan and, who was the first one?

Russell:

Dana White, who's the owner of UFC. Both of them, I don't agree with our belief system, like half, but they fascinate me on the other half and I have the ability to... Hopefully, all of us can learn is you can disagree with somebody on a lot of things and still have respect from them and still learn from them, so. But those are the two I'm really fascinated by and I have so many things... I'm not a very good interviewer, but man, if I sit down for an hour or two them, I would have so many things I want to ask them and like, ah, those guys fascinate me, so.

McCall:

Do you just do it in a Kevin Bacon way? Where you're like, okay, the six degrees of Kevin Bacon away from Joe Rogan and Dana White, and you just like start to eliminate?

Russell:

Definitely. There's that, but there's also like, is there a way I can incorporate Joe? How can I serve Joe Rogan? Right? He's the biggest podcast, my podcast doesn't help him, but I'll put him on stage potentially. Or there's something we could do, or... What's the next thing? If he's going to be doing his comedy shows, maybe I could find out like, "Hey, I can help fill a show in a city. We can do a funnel." Something like that where I can use my unique abilities to help magnify something they're doing. Or Dana White, I don't know how I'd serve him yet, but that would be kind of the thing.

And then yes, it's looking at degrees of separation. I do know that Grand Cardone had Dana White on stage, I know there's that; I know Alex Sharpton is moving next door to Joe Rogan. So there's all kind of things. But I'm not like, "Hey Sharpton, can you call Joe Rogan for me? What's his address?" I'm not doing that, because I don't want to be the creepy guy. But I'm like, okay, I do know there's connection points, and who and how and all this kind of things. And then I'm also trying to pay attention to him. So like when I do have a chance to meet them the very first time, I can have an intelligent conversation.

I can tell when people are prepared to meet me, because they... Like today, I had a guy that I'm potentially interviewing for a big position. And it was in the conversation, I could just... like, little things. He asked something about wrestling. I was like, "Oh, how do you like wrestling?" And he's like, "Your kid's wrestle?" I was like, I literally Instagramed a picture of Aiden on a wrestling mat last night. He did his homework, so we had this thing, and that's when I was like, "Oh, he is cool because he's paying attention." And all of a sudden I was like, "Ah, he got me. I trust this guy now because he had that commonality."

And so, I'm trying to pay enough attention to them, what they're doing, where I could have a... Not that I have to agree with him, but I can like have a conversation. Like, "Hey, I don't agree with this. What do you think?" Sometimes agreeing with people don't create the connection points. The disagreement, you can have a discussion. That gets more fascinating and you get closer to someone through that than you ever could like, "Oh, you're so cool." People don't want to feel like they're being worshiped, they want to feel like an equal. So it's like, you get a mentally stimulating conversation with somebody that you disagree with, sometimes that's the best connection. I don't have the same opinion of that person, but that was the fascinating view to look at it through. And so, just gotta do my homework there. And yeah, stuff like that.

McCall:

That's cool. Thanks man!

Russell:

No worries.

Don:

Awesome. Okay, next... That's how rumors get started. Did you guys know that Russell's getting into UFC? He's going to be the ultimate fighter champion.

Russell:

I’m ready for it, let's go.

Don:

Let's go! All right, Daniel, you're next. Go ahead.

Russell:

I think if I was to have just retired from wrestling right now in my life, I 100% would be going towards UFC. Now that I'm an old man, I can't. And I didn't understand fighting back when I did get done competing, but if I was graduating from competition right now, I had 100% be in the UFC, or trying to be in the UFC, for sure.

Don:

And I had no idea that you were such a pop culture reference person. I've seen you do it stage a few time, but you did it in this small group, and I'm like, "Thank God. Russell and I have this in common." Because my immediate thought when you talked about it was, you can be like the guy from friends when John Favreau tries to be the ultimate fighting champion. He's passed his prime there and he has to give up the dream. But anyway. Daniel, go ahead with your question.

Daniel:

All right. First up, thank you so much, Russell. It's such an honor to be here in the same room as you. It's because of you, my mindset has switched from the mindset of just wanting to earn more money to serving people. I'm a big fan of you and your podcast, and especially Marketing In Your Car. That totally rocks. And my question…

Russell:

By the way, did you notice that? Now I know, first off, he's paid attention, but it wasn't just like, "Oh, I bought your book." He's like, Marketing In Your Car, which is my old podcast, he paid attention to. Yeah, so checked out connection point, now I'm like this guy's a real fan. I actually trust him even more. So, very good for you. That was awesome.

Daniel:

I love for you, Russell. I love you so much. So your latest podcast where you mentioned about the reasons for entry versus the reasons to stay, from Dan Kennedy. So I believe that we can also use that same framework for our Dream 100 too. If yes, could you expound a little bit more on that for me, please?

Russell:

Yeah. For sure. Those who don't know the reference yet, I did a podcast about this fax right here. Hold on. Oh, it’s not this one, dang it. Anyway, Dan only sends things through fax. So, there's fax that we got, which was like the fax he sent to the guy who bought it before me about how the other company destroyed his brand and his name, and there's a whole bunch of these little nuggets.

So I shared one nugget, which was the difference between why people come into your business and why they stay in your business. They're different, right? For example, in our Mastermind, people come, it's like, "I want to be in my Russell's Mastermind!" And they get there and they're like, "Russell's not that cool, but all the people here are amazing!" And they stick because of the community of people, right? So it's like, I'm the hook to get him in, but this is what you're actually paying for is this amazing community. Right? And Dan was talking about, because for them, it's like, people come in because they want the money making secret of whatever, but they stay for the community and the newsletter, and Dan and his thoughts. It's understanding that they come and they stick for different reasons.

And so Dream 100's very similar. I think a good practical example is like when we launched ClickFunnels, I was trying to find people that we could build funnels for free. Right? So I called a bunch of like bigger name people. Tony was one, Dave Asprey, a bunch of people who I woke up to. And I was like, "Hey, can I build you a funnel for your new book launch or for your thing?" It's like, they came because I wanted to serve them, do a thing like that. But then, that's how I got to know him. Right? I had a chance to go to Bulletproof Cafe and film Dave Asprey and get to know him, and become personal with him and like build a relationship.

And so the hook was what got him to say yes to the meeting and to me spending half a day with him. Right? But then after that, the relationship stuck because of the other things. Does that make sense? So it's kind of the same thing. How do I surge enough hook to get them in so you have time to build relationships. That's the hardest thing. Right now it's hard because my time's so busy. How am I going to have time to… I can’t please everybody? So it's like, what's the hook? Like, what's something I can bring this value to you. It's like, "Okay, I got 30 minutes. Let's figure this out."

And then during that window, if you build a relationship now, they stick for that. And I think that's a lot of times the way you open the door is through how can I serve you? For me, it's like, I don't have many talents, but funnels is one of them. So I built funnels for a lot of people.

And nowadays, those other people aren't get ahold. Well, I don't necessarily build a funnel, but I'm like, "Hey, we want to migrate you over. I got a few amazing people to help you do your thing and build it out." And that way, again, we're serving them, getting it like, "Hey, now your things on ClickFunnel's platform." And then now, relationship is built. So I think that's probably how I look at it from an affiliate standpoint.

Daniel:

So yeah, just like going all out to serve them and just having that house service, and from there on, you build a reciprocity, and that's how you continue on the relationship. Thank you so much, Russell. Really appreciate you.

Russell:

No worries. Here’s an example, when Dave was out with somebody, we were at this thing and we'd asked this guy... We knew who it was. He's a friend but not best buddies. And we had ClickFunnels. It was when ClickFunnels first came out. We asked him three or four times, like, "Hey, you want to help us..." And he was just like, "No, no." And then Dave found out that he lives in Australia, he was flying back to Australia, and he wanted this surfboard. So Dave went and bought the surfboard, and then tried to give it to him that will miss the thing. So David had to jump in a car and drive three hours to the airport to get it to him and all this stuff. And then he flew back to Australia, he called me, he's like, "Man, Dave literally bought the thing I was looking for, drove it to me, got it for me in time. Now I have it here." He's like, "I have to roll ClickFunnels now." So Dave was the hook, and I was like, "Oh, you guys serve a level that nobody else does." Like, yes. Okay. Now I'll do the thing. And back, one of our early promoters, way back in the day. So anyway, just, it's always looking for that, like how do you help the people out first?

Daniel:

Amazing. Amazing. Thank you so much, Russell. Appreciate it.

Russell:

No worries. Thank you.

Daniel:

God bless.

Don:

Great question, Daniel. Thanks for being a real life example of what we're supposed to be doing, man. Russell was able to point out three things you did right, right there. That was amazing.

All right, Jim, you're next buddy. Mr. Show, go ahead and unmute yourself and ask Russell your question. And try not to get in trouble.

Jim:

Don't get trouble. That's harsh.

Russell:

I'm like, "Cut the mic, cut the mic."

Jim:

Yeah.

Russell:

"Get him off, get him off."

Don:

I'm just kidding. Jim and I have had a really great relationship. He's been helping out, and he's going to help me out with something a little bit.

Russell:

Very good.

Jim:

Yes. So I focus on live streaming because I'm addicted to it. I think that Twitch is the future and I'm just trying to bring it here a little faster. And to entrepreneurs in particular, and I love the relationships that come from it. I had a game show called Exes Knows game show that formed amazing relationships. But it was very tight-knit, small family kind of a thing. So like, I want to give that to the audience too, and I wanted to know with like you have the Marketing Secrets show, and when you did that YouTube video, like I got giddy. You were like, "You need a show." I was like, "Yeah." But I just want to know if you had any recommendations for how to make it, that personal feel of being on the show, how can I give that to the audience?

Russell:

Mm. So I know what Twitch is because my kids watch video games on it and stuff. So can you explain so I understand like, are you in Twitch shows like more like, business type stuff? Or how are you…

Jim:

Yeah. If you go under Just Chatting for Twitch, they have actual shows. And shows like talk shows, interviews, game shows like what I ended up doing. They have round tables and all sorts of things that are not game centric, and the audiences are just loving it. They're adoring it. And they have things like Patreon to where you can take that step closer. They had exclusive content and things. So I was thinking of doing something more like that, but I'm not a big fan of Patreon. I just want to give that to them anyway.

Russell:

Yeah. It's funny. Again, this is mostly because I don't understand how the whole platform works. We talked about like, "We should do a Twitch show where people are just building funnels all day long, and my kids watch video games, and like..." We talked about it a couple times, so it's interesting.

Again, I haven't done it on the platform, so I don't know exactly how it worked, but I think conceptually, the way you build communities is a couple things, right? Number one is like, people have to feel like they're a part of something. So it's not just like a bunch of randos coming to an event. It's like for Funnel Hacking Live, it’s a bunch of funnel hackers come to an event. Like, they're coming, and it's not like they're showing up just randomly. It's like, this is my people. I'm part of this. It's a tribe, it's a community. They're part of it, right? Just like family reunion, you go back and it's like, all my family comes together because we're family. And you can talk forever because it's a family mixed with family. And so we always try to create that, but it comes with people identifying with the thing you're doing, right?

Expert Seekers talks a lot about this, but it's like those kind things. How do you get people to self-identify so they feel like they're part of the thing as opposed, I'm going to watch a show. Like I'm part of this, right? When we do ClickFunnel specifically, I was like, if people think it's Russell's company, they're not going to... It might be successful, but it'll stop. I was like, I want people to feel like ClickFunnels is our software. This is our company together. Right? And so you look at my languaging that I talk through things. I'm never like, "My company ClickFunnels." I'm like, "Yeah, it's a community." I'm like, "This is ClickFunnels, we have this community." And I'm trying to make it our company, not my company. Because no one cares if my company succeeds or not, but they care if our company, if our movement, if our culture, if our thing is different. Right? And so it's like, how do we make it we instead of just you? And I think that's one reason we've had so much success inside of our industries, I look at everybody else and everybody else doesn't do that. Everyone else is like, them and about them and about the thing. And it's like, we try to be us and try to make people feel tighter.

And then you don't have to necessarily monetize on Patreon or whatever. It could be just swag. Like for example, we had Derral Eves came and spoke at our last Inner Circle meeting and he...

Jim:

I love Derral Eves.

Russell:

I don't know if you guys know the Chosen, but they've done $29 million in t-shirt sales on the back of the Chosen. So the content's completely free. Everything's free out there. But because the community and people want it, just in t-shirt sales. Right? And they've done a lot more in other stuff. But if you think about that, it's like, all the content's completely free, but it's the community. And so it's looking at that like how it's going to monetize it. Maybe it's not a paid thing or Patreon or whatever, but what do you have? Is it swag? For me, it's software. My whole goal is to get people into software eventually. Dan Kennedy was all about newsletters, physical newsletters is their thing that they monetize. And so it's just looking at like what monetization vehicle is exciting for you, and then making that the thing that, that you plug people into.

It could be anything. It could be, again, software supplements. It could be all of us drink the same drink, supplement drink. Whatever the thing is. But there's this commonality thing that ties everybody together where they have this unique experience. In fact, prove it's a network marketing company I've done a lot of work with in the past. But everyone's drinking Ketones. Literally, the drink that they're drinking is what ties this community together, and they all have Ketone shirts and all these things, but that's the glue that ties all the people together, where they're all doing the same things. For me, it's software; other people, it's supplements; some people, it's new... whatever the thing is that glues the tribe together.

Jim:

Awesome. Thank you so much. I really appreciate the time.

Russell:

Sunday, if I remember on Twitch, doing the funnel hacker, funnel building show. I'll have to consult with you.

Jim:

Check out Just Chatting, man. It's really, really fun.

Russell:

Yeah. Very cool.

Don:

Awesome. Thank you so much, Jim. That's a great question. Russell, we have three more hands raised, and I've kind of cut it off and said that we're not going to have any more time. So if we could just take the last few questions, and then we'll wrap things up.

Tammy, you're next. Could you please unmute and ask your question?

Tammy:

Hey Russell. I am so excited to have the opportunity. Thank you very much. And you mentioned something that was kind of a segue as to what I wanted to ask you, had I ever got the opportunity to ask you. And here it is! Tell me a little bit about the Funnel Hacker t-shirt. And the reason I asked is because this is what I do. I help clients make connections with their clients and customers, and love on them and kind of work their way through building these amazing relationships. And I use the Funnel Hacker t-shirt as an example all of the time. It's crazy. I don't even know if you know. Do you know you can't even go on eBay and buy a Funnel Hackers t-shirt. Like, occasionally you could find one, but most generally-

Russell:

A nasty one somebody had…

Tammy:

... you just can't, man. I mean, you just can't find it. And so, it is a coveted item that defines your community. It gives them a jumping off point, not because it has your logo on it. I don't even think that's the brilliant part of this. The reason is because you have, either intentionally or not intentionally, you have connected with the end product of what you're delivering, and people self-identify with that to the point of, they want to be what it is that you offer. And I think people miss that so much in the branding. I see that in my business and things that I do; people want to slap their logo on it. Their first thing's like, let's put a logo on it and it's not about you. Can you speak to that just a little bit? Because got to love it.

Russell:

100%. So I remember going to T&C before we launched Funnel Hacking Live. And I remember they gave swag items, and it was weird things. Like, one was a tuxedo and the things... And everybody got home and had them, and I just kind of threw them away and I didn't do anything with it.

I remember we were building swag, I definitely didn't do this intentionally, but then after it happened, I realized it, and then we doubled down on that. And so what we realized is that, 100% of what you said. So yes, everything you said has my mark of approval. They have to identify. If they can't say I am a blank, they're not going to connect with it. Right? So I am a funnel hacker. I am a biohacker. I am a lady boss. I am a funnel builder. You can say, "I am a..." And then the word. That's how it is. Because I put it on like, I'm a funnel hacker. This is funnel hacker. But they have to be able to say that, "I am a..." Whatever. Expert Seekers would be a horrible t-shirt. I'm an Expert Seekers. No, I am a ClickFunnels. No, this is not going to work. It's not going to create a movement. Right here, Dan. Right? "I am diehard. I'm a diehard funnel hacker." That's the amplification of it. Right? But you wear that because that's who you are. I am a... Boom. And so that's what self identifies.

And wearing a tuxedo thing was weird. I can't remember the one they had. I remember specifically, because Funnel Hacking Live was like a year later or something. And I remember thinking like I want swag that people would wear. And what's crazy now is I get texts probably two or three times a week from friends who are like, "I'm in Malaysia on those little carts." And as I'm driving down the street, there's this dude. They are taking pictures. "This dude in the middle of nowhere is wearing your shirt." And like, I get texts. It's like the craziest thing. Someone the day was like, "I'm in an airport in Singapore," "I'm in Australia," "I'm in New Zea-". All these things, and they're sending these random shirts, yeah I see a bunch of you guys wearing them.

And it's just the coolest thing. And it's been spread through. If you notice nowadays, not all of them, sometimes they have different reasons, but almost all of our core shirts that we give away or do things with, always the test for me is like, "Can I say I am a blank?" If we can, sweet. If not... maybe it's something that's like a cool whatever, but it's not like a movement making something that someone wears.

And so yes, 100% agree. And that's why we do it. And again, I don't think I did it up front. In fact, I think it was actually Kaelin Poulin. Because we had Funnel Hacker, and she had launched her swag stuff and a bunch of them didn't work. And then the one that just said LadyBoss on it, she came back, and I remember in our Inner Circle meeting, that's what she said. She's like I realize if they can't say I am a whatever, they don't self-identify, she's like, "We may sell it, but for us to sell a lot, it's like the self-identification gives people to actually buy, wear it, all that kind of stuff." So, very cool.

Tammy:

Thank you.

Daniel:

Awesome. Great question. Okay, Larry. And then we've got the last two. So Larry, go ahead and unmute and ask your question.

Larry:

Thank you. Thank you, Russell. For this wonderful speech. I'm really excited, because I started my journey three years ago with your Secrets books, and I have read them dozens of times, and audiobooks also. So I very well know your concepts of Dream 100 and making movements. I just want to, to ask you, I'm starting to make movement. It's a really, really small, really small group of fearless live go-getters. We are fighting the fear of going lives and starting those lives in the business. So what's your recommendation for me? I have finally a month and a half ago started to get some traction. I joined One Comma Club. So how to make that movement.

Russell:

So your people are going live like on Facebook. Is that what we're talking about?

Larry:

Yes. Yes. Since inside of the group, we are practicing, and later they are starting using that in their business.

Russell:

Okay. And then what type of people are you trading?

Larry:

Entrepreneurs and marketers.

Russell:

Do they fall in a certain subcategory underneath that?

Larry:

Yeah. Well, yes, they are people who actually haven't done those lives at all, but can realize very fast the power of it and have to overcome that fear. I'm also introverted, just like you, and I have done 160 lives in a row just to persuade myself. And during that period, I have persuaded so many people, so eventually the moment catch up.

Russell:

Oh, that's awesome. Well, I'd be looking at it like, if I was you, it'd be like, what do these people identify as, right? You know, McCall did Charisma Hackers. I did Funnel Hackers. What do you people consider themselves? Are they creators? The whole creator economy is a big thing. I'm a creator, I'm a go live creator. Are they doing physical projects? Are they experts? I look at how they would identify themselves. In fact, I don't even ask them. Hey, there's a lot of different people in this group. How would you self-identify yourself? And do a little quiz or survey, and see what the words that they're using.

Because I didn't come up with funnel hacker, by the way. It's interesting. I had a webinar called the Funnel Hacks webinar, and we sold a course called Funnel Hacking Secrets or something like that, or Funnel Hacks. Anyway, whatever it was. And it was someone in our forum who posted, "Good morning, funnel hackers! Blah, blah, blah, blah." And I was like, "Oh, that's so cool! They called themselves funnel hackers." And they're like, "Oh!" And then like, "We need to..." And that started the whole thing. It wasn't something I came up with. It was like, they said it, someone said it. I wish I knew who said it, because I'd like give them an award or something. But someone said it in our little Facebook group of maybe 2000 or 3000 people at the time. And I was just like, "That's the coolest..." I remember like literally calling Dylan and Todd. And I was like, "It is the coolest thing. Someone just calls themselves a funnel hacker." Like, ah!

So I would maybe ask your people and like, how would you identify yourself? Like, what are you? What would you call yourself? You can tell them, "We're building a tribe here. What should we call ourselves? We need a cool name." And see what the people in the group, kind of what they come up with as well.

Larry:

We are fearless live goal getters, but they like that name, but maybe I should reiterate it.

Russell:

Yeah. So there are fierce side go-getters so like with people who build funnels, so are we go-getters? Are we livers? Are we... Something. Something.

Larry:

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

Russell:

So very cool. Congrats, man. That's awesome. The Two Comma Club's the hardest. By the way, for who does is that after you get past the Two Comma Club, at least for me, there's a mental block for three years to break. Then after I got it, the rest of business got really. That's like the hardest one, is that first two Comma Clubs. One Comma Club is huge. Anyway, you get it. That's awesome.

Larry:

Thank you. Thank you. You're fantastic.

Don:

Love it. Awesome. Okay. So we have Michael Vale. Michael, you're not on camera, but I'm sure you're there. Yep.

Michael:

Yeah, I'm here. I'm actually hiding at work, so I can't put the camera on.

Don:

Understand.

Michael:

Yeah. That's a little different question for you, Russell. I love the way that you include your family, and I got to meet your two kids and your wife at Funnel Hacking Live. You'll have. And I know you're trying to get your boy cut up to be a little bit, but how does this play into the relationship world? Kind of an odd question, but...

Russell:

Say it again. So how does having my-

Michael:

Well, I'm just one of your hacker hire, but to see that and to see you share your faith, bring, for me, validity. It makes you aesthetic as a person. And how does that build relationships out in the community? ,

Russell:

So, I think Myron Golden said, he said, "You don't attract who you want, you attract who you are." And so initially, I would try to get whoever into my world and I would kind of hide who I was more so, and I got people who I actually didn't like very much. If you've read the intro to Dotcom Secrets, I talk about how one day I woke up and I hated all my customers because I wasn't being like... And I hate the cliche. Like, "You need to be more authentic!" I was like, all right, well, I'm going to start sharing everything in my life.

And I remember I started talking about my wrestling, I started talking about my kids back then. We just had our twins. I told that story, and I started with my wife. And it was crazy because I talked about these things, people who liked me started coming into my world. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I actually like these people that I'm serving now," because we attract who we like. And there's people who… you know, it was years before I was willing to talk about God and my beliefs there, because I was like scared, like, "Ah!" And I started doing it and it was crazy, because one of two things happening. They didn't believe in God and they're like, "I don't care. Russell's cool for this." Or that you like, "Oh, I'm offended because you talked about that," and left. And I was like, "Sweet. That's great that they're gone." You know what I mean?

And it's just interesting because the more I've done it, the more the people who we attract, I like them more and it's are exciting. And so I think it's just... I don't know. And I get a question a lot like, well, "Are you scared showing your kids on Instagram? Are you scared?" And yes, it's scary. At the same time, this is the world we live in today. You know what I mean? There comes a point where you've got to trade your kids, you got to do stuff, you got to pray that things are going to be safe and then hope for the best. And you know what I mean?

And so, I don't know. It's being willing to share those things that are scary. And I'm not vulnerable at the point where I'm sharing everything about my life, but I definitely introduce people so they know who I am and where I stand and my values. Because at the end of day, I want more of those people around me. And there's people who come into our world who don't have my values, but a lot of times we transition, right? They come in because I make money, make money. And then they keep coming, then we talk about this and eventually like, "Huh." You start thinking about things differently. And so it's just being willing and open to share those kind of things. And if you do it, then it'll attract the right people. So yeah, I think for everybody just be being okay with that.

Don's a great example of this, right? Don, I've seen a transformation in him over the last year and I love him. I love him however he wants to be. I don't care. And I respect him. He's a great friend, so it doesn't matter to me. And it's the same thing. Right? And some people, I'm sure you've lost friends, I'm sure you've gained friends. And it's like, who cares? Are long as the people I want are going to be around me and that's amazing. And the people who are not okay with that, they're gone and that's amazing too. It makes life so much better. I think it's like, all us should be who we want to be, and I think it's awesome.

Michael:

Thank you, Russell. Thank you.

Russell:

Hey, can we actually... I see Luke over here. Can we do one more question? Because I'm curious…

Don:

Don't worry. Don't worry. He's here. I just very quickly, I just want to say thank you, Russell, for that, by the way. It's my turn to cry. I made it through three days without crying, which is not easy for me. Losing people in my life like you was my biggest fear. Not because of who you are, because of the stories I told myself. So thank you for letting me love unapologetically and love myself unconditionally. I appreciate it.

Russell:

No worries, man.

Don:

Hey, Luke. So what you don't know about Luke yet, maybe, Russell, is Luke is 12, just turned 13, spoke on this symposium as one of the 35 amazing speakers, and did it on his birthday. And he courageously has raised his hand to ask the Russell Brunson a question. Luke, let's go, buddy.

Luke:

Hey Russell, I'm a super big fan. I have Dotcom Secrets. It's completely stained and everything because I've carried it everywhere around with me. And my brother he created-

Russell:

My kids don't think I'm cool, so if you could let him know, that'd be awesome.

Luke:

My brother, he's a huge fan. He created his own landing page, promoting your book at the age of seven. And so he loves you too. My question for you is how do you get credibility at a young age in an adult world?

Russell:

Ooh, that's that's a great question. So, I would say first off you're doing it. Like the bigger thing is in people's minds, and I'm the same way. We ought to set our our minds, like, "I can't be successful because of blah." Right. "Because I'm too young, I'm too old, I've got..." Everyone's got an excuse of why they can't do it, but what's crazy is like, when I got started, as I started doing stuff, people were like, "Oh my gosh, you're so young. This is cool." Right? And then you seem a little bit older. I think more of it's a mental thing. The fact you are here, there's a whole bunch of speakers on here, and I kept seeing your face. And I was like, "I want to talk to that guy. I want to talk to that guy the most. Like everyone else, oh, they're all boring adults. They're like, blah. Who cares?" I want to talk to you, that's why I called you at the end.

So I think it's actually like a superpower. Like, usually the things that we are afraid of or we think are going to be are limiting things, end up becoming our superpowers. Right? And I think it's just leaning into it and being okay with it. Because most of that is just in our head, thinking like, I can't do it because of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I can't do it. Everyone's got excuse. I'm still to this day have tons of excuses. Like, I can't do it because I talk too fast or I'm not as cool as somebody else, or blah, blah, blah. We all have these same things. I think it's just understanding that that's actually a superpower.

The fact that you're young and you're having success and you're doing these things is going to attract more people to you. More people are going to want to have you speaking at their events. And no lens. I don't know if you know Noah yet, but he was, I think, I think he was 11 or 12 when he somehow figured out my Voxer ID, hacked into my Voxer ID, and started messaging me. Anyway, I was just like, there's this young kid messaging me and... and I don't know. I wasn't scared. So if I started, do I respond back or not? Because it's a weird conversation and then I just showed you the message. It was so funny because he's like, "Hey Russell, I found an error on your funnel. Here's the fix, send it to your tech guy," and sent it to me. I was like, "What?" An 11 year old kid like found an error on my thing and then sent it to me.

Right? And then the next day he's like, "Hey Russell, you talked about this thing. So I built an entire funnel that you could use to give your audience just as a gift. Here's the share funnel link if you want to use it. If not, that's totally cool as well." And then something else, he's like, "Hey, I took your sales page. I think I got a better hook so I rebuilt it. Feel free to A-B split test." And he kept sending me these things and eventually like, "Who are you?" And we started talking, and he's a young kid, same kind of thing. And then his story was so cool. I introduced a bunch of people and he introduced himself, and he spoke at one of our events and just all these doors got open because he was young. Right? If would've been a 35 year old dude, I just would have blocked everything because he was young, I was curious and it opened up all these things. And so I would just lean into it and realize that what you have as youth is a superpower. It's not a negative thing at all, and people are going to see you and just be blown away by what you're doing, and just keep doing it. And anyway, so hope that helps.

Luke:

Yeah, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much, Russell.

Russell:

No worries. Thank you.

Don:

So Luke, I don't know if you know, but Russell has this really awesome event. I know personally that he said a number of times that behind Funnel Hacking Live. It's his favorite, if not a dead heat for his favorite, it's called unlock the secrets. And it's a family driven event and we were able to go to the one that happened in I think Denver in 2019, but is there a rumor that you're going to do another one, Russell?

Russell:

We do have one coming up. So Luke, if you want a message my team we'll invite you and your family. You guys can come to it. It's awesome. It's going to be in Arizona. Where are you from?

Luke:

I'm in Canada.

Russell:

In Canada. Okay. Well, if you can break out of Canada, it's in Arizona, I think in June of this year. So message Chris or someone. He can connect you with that with my assistant, and we'll give you your family tickets if you guys want to come to it. Yeah. It's a family event.

Luke:

I would love that.

Russell:

Last time we did it, I think we had 300 or 400 like teenagers there and it was like the coolest experience ever. This year's going to be even cooler, so.

Don:

Russell, do you have time for me to tell one quick anecdote before we do something for Chris?

Russell:

Yeah.

Don:

The anecdote is about Unlock the Secrets, and number one, I'm a huge for family person, so I love the fact that during that event, you light up in a different way. And taking pictures of you, you make different faces, you act a little differently just because you're nurturing what you love about life in children, and it's so fun to watch.

Two things. I watched a person, a young man, sitting at the corner of one of the edge of the roads, and he was furiously typing and doing stuff. And I kind of looked at his mom and she goes, yeah, and she kind of did this thing. And I was like, what? And she goes, "He's building another funnel." And I'm like, "Oh, another funnel?" And I was like... And I have a picture. He turned it around and he had his ClickFunnels page open and he scrolled it for me. He had dozens and dozens and dozens of that. This like 11 year old had designed himself. And then Noah, my interaction with him was when I was photographing him on stage, you allowed people to ask some questions at the panel. And they said, "Hey, I'm just curious. What do you charge to build a funnel?" You remember this?

Russell:

This is the best ever!

Don:

You want to tell everybody?

Russell:

Yeah. He's like, "Actually, I don't charge people for funnels anymore. I only trade for equity."

Don:

Uh-huh (affirmative). He's like, "I don't charge hourly. I only do it for equity." And I was literally like, "This kid is my idol now." He's not even in high school, and he doesn't do it for hourly wage. He only does it for equity. So, Luke, if I have the honor and pleasure of seeing you at Unlock the Secrets, I can't wait to see your funnel, and you can tell me that you want equity in my company to help me with something.

Luke:

I'm super excited.

Don:

Appreciate you, Luke.

Russell:

I love my… My kids actually told me this morning, I was driving to school. And Ellie's like, "Dad, you're the least mature adult that we know." Or something like that. And I'm like, "Thank you. That's amazing."

Don:

It's the Peter Pan quote, right? We have to get older, but we never have to grow up. That's all there is to it.

Russell:

Yes, exactly.

Don:

Hey Christopher, as we wrap up, I'm sure you're going to have words for Russell. I'm going to have a few myself, but I need to find you in my list. There you are.

Russell:

He passed out, he’s tired. Let's give him a break.

Don:

He is. He's probably sleeping. Hey buddy, how you doing?

Christopher:

Doing good.

Don:

Blown away. Blown away. Christopher, do me a favor. I'm sure Russell has very busy and important things to do. He's graced us with 90 minutes of his time. Now that we were able to surprise you with this, thank Russell for his time and thank you. What do you have to say to Russell before he goes and we wrap things up?

Christopher:

Thank you. Thanks for being here, and this is a dream come true. This is not the last symposium for Return on Relationship. I call this a movement, not just an event. And it just means the world to me, Russell, to have your support, and to have everyone's support. Everyone that came out to speak, and all of you that came out to attend.

I want people to think differently about how they build relationships. I think this is something that's a need and I can't wait for all of you to go away from here and take everything that you've learned and apply it and change your lives. And Russell, you mentioned it when you told the story about Dave, what great news that we got about Dave. He's an incredible individual. I look up to him about as much as I look up to you, and I already thank you publicly, but yeah, relationships saved my life. I'm here putting on this symposium because I met you, and I never would've met Wallace Nelson if it wasn't for meeting you, and relationships to the foundation, for everything in your life; and just thank you, Russell, for being here and supporting me in my first symposium. It means the world to me. Thank you. And all of you, thank you.

Russell:

No worries, man. I'm proud of you for doing it. It takes a lot to put something like this together and to have the vision and everything. So, proud of you man, for doing it. And it's just the beginning, not the end. This is the beginning of, I think, your business, your movement and everything. So, proud of you and love you, man.

Christopher:

Love you too. Thank you.

Don:

Everybody wave at Russell. Thank Russell. Russell, thank you, man, for being here. We appreciate you so much. We'll see you again soon.

Russell:

Thanks everyone!

Christopher:

Thanks Russell!

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]]> 2480 no ROR - It’s Not Who You Know, It’s Who Knows You (2 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/ror-its-not-who-you-know-its-who-knows-you-2-of-3 In part 2 of this special 3 part series, you get to hear more of Russell’s presentation at the ROR (Return on Relationships) Symposium! In this half, Russell explains how you should provide value to people before you ask them for anything. Enjoy the second half of this keynote presentation, and don’t forget to check out RORUniversity.com to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. I hope you enjoyed the last episode for my keynote presentation at Christopher Vos' ROR Symposium. So far, in the episode number one, I had a chance to talk us through some of the history and the background of how we started building our business and I'm excited this next episode's going to be the second half of my keynote presentation. I hope you enjoy. And then afterwards, the third episode, we're actually going to, I opened up some Q & A and we had a really good time doing some of that as well. That'll be the third episode, so this episode would be the last half of my keynote presentation. I hope you enjoy it. Again, if you want to go deeper with Christopher Vos, make sure you go to roruniversity.com and get on his list, read his stuff, listen to what he is doing because he is helping a lot of people to build businesses by using relationships and really understanding how to do the stuff we talk about. I talked about Dream 100 in the Traffic Secrets book. This is what he's talking at a much deeper, much more powerful level. With that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song and when we come back, you'll have a chance to listen to second half of my keynote from the ROR Symposium. Okay. Now, I'll tell a side story because it popped in my head right now and that's what I do, right? About the time, it was after Joe Vitale promoted me, I had a list with certain sites and then I got a phone call from a guy named Tellman Knudson. Anybody here know who Tellman is? Tellman used to be big at our space. He shifted it over to more hypnosis, personal development space. But Tellman messaged me on the phone. He was like, "Hey, Russell, I had this idea. I'm building or I'm interviewing all these people and," I can't remember, "I'm going to interview you for an hour about a topic and then I'm going to put it behind the squeeze page and then everyone's going to promote the squeeze page. People are going to join my list, they'll get your interview and all the other interviews." And I was like, Uh, okay, I think that's the worst idea ever." He's like, "What do you mean?" I'm like, "I'm not going to email my list to your squeeze page so they can opt in and join your list to get my free interview. I'll just give them my free interview. Why would I do that? It does it make any logical sense." He's like, "Well, everyone's going to promote it and that way, everybody, everybody's lists, people from other lists will see you as well and it's going to be the huge thing for you." I was like, "Dude, that's the stupidest idea ever. No. No." I told him no, flat out, I was like, "This is never going to work, but good luck in your future," and I hung up, right? I was nice because on my DISC profile, I'm a high S, so I can't be mean to people. So I was like, "Okay, well, sorry." Anyway, so that happens and then fast forward three months later, all of a sudden, in one day, I get emails from everybody, Joe Vitale, the Nitro Marketing guys, all the people who are the biggest of the time, emails from everybody and I open up and it's like, "There's this guy named Tellman Knutson, the interview is on his ListBuilder and you should go check it out." And I clicked on it and went to, it was called listcrusade.com, it was his site, I went to listcrusade.com and sure enough, there's an opt-in to get all these interviews and I opted in and there's all these people's interviews. I was like, "What? How do you pull it off? You got the biggest names in the world to go and do this." And I was just perplexed, like how? I'm like, "This is the dumbest idea ever. I should have done it. If it worked, this is crazy. So I found his number, I messaged him, "Okay, tell me, I'm so confused. Can I ask you a question?" So he jumped on a call with me and I was like, "Okay. I just saw yesterday 50 people all promoted your squeeze page." He's like, "Yeah, I've added 120,000, 130,000 people to my list and the last 48 hours." And I was like, "How did you do that?" And it was so fascinating. He said, "You know what, Russell? I called 49 people and I got 49 nos in a row. First one said no, no, no, no, no. You said no. Someone said, everyone said no." And he's like, "But guess what? The 50th person," he said it was Kevin and Matt from Nitro. He said, "I called Kevin and Matt and for some reason, they said yes. And after they said yes, I was like, "Cool, do you know else would be a good fit?" And then Kevin and Matt were like, "Oh, yeah, you should get so and so and so," and then they emailed the Nitro like, "Hey, you should meet so and so and so and so," they jumped over there. Those people said yes as well." And he's like, "The next 37 people in the row all said yes." Oh, he even had Jay Abraham on the list. Anyway, he said, "The next 37 people all said yes and here we are." And I was like, "Oh, my gosh, how many of us, including me, would've stopped at the first no or the second or the third? But as soon as he got one cool kid to think he was cool, he was in. Okay? So you start thinking about this, actually, this is probably more for the women. This is embarrassing, I'm going to say this. How many you guys ever seen the movie Never Been Kissed? Drew Barrymore. Okay. Macaulay, can you act this out while I explain? Just kidding. Okay. Here's the story from Never Been Kissed. Drew Barrymore, in the movie, she's never been kissed, she graduates high school and now she's a columnist at a newspaper. She's a big columnist and her brother was the cool kid. He was the jock and the coolest kid and he graduated now he's this loser because he's graduated from high school. Anyway, she's in her day job as a columnist and they're like, "We want article from what are the high school kids doing so we need you to go undercover back to high school and find out about the cool parties and all the cool stuff." So Josie, drew Barrymore's, character goes back to high school and within five seconds, she slides back into the nerd group which they're doing chess club and all these kind of things and she's writing articles about chess club and her editor's like, "No, we don't want these articles. I want the cool kids, the drugs and all this stuff, what's happening. We want the underground dirt, that's the article we're looking for." So she tries to get in and she's like, no one will, the cool kids club will not let her in. So she's home and she's frustrated and then her brother's there and her brother's played by David Arquette and so David Arquette is jealous. He's like, "I want to go back to high school, I was the coolest kid in high school." And, and Josie's like, "There's no way, you don't understand, it's harder, it's not the same thing. If you went back to school, you wouldn't be cool." And it gives the idea for him. He's like, "No, I'm going back to school." So he somehow, and Tammy says it isn't on Netflix, I'm sure it's on Netflix. Anyway, this is your homework. Everyone go watch it. So Drew Barrymore or David Arquette's character goes back and gets in high high school somehow and she sees him in the hallway, she's like, "You can't do this. It's not going to be like, you're not going to be cool like you were before." He's like, "Watch this." So he goes into the lunch room, this is the greatest scene of all film. He's in the lunch room, he's standing up on the table and he's got this huge bucket of cole slaw and he's trying to eat the entire thing, shove it in his mouth and the whole high school's cheering him on like, "Oh," and he's eating the stuff he slams the thing down. He's like, "Oh," and that fast, he's the coolest kid in high school, everybody loves him and he's the man. And then, the next day, he's like, "Okay, I'm going to show you, Josie. I'm going to make you cool." So he goes with Josie, his sister and one of the cool kids sees him and he's like, "Oh, why are you hanging out with her?" And he's like," "Her? She's the coolest girl. She actually broke up with me, she's so cool." All this stuff. And he starts talking about how cool she is and all of a sudden, everyone's like, "Oh," and then all of a sudden the cool kids are like, "Oh, she's cool." And all of a sudden, boom, she gets sucked in. And then one cool kid thinks she's cool, the next, the next and eventually, that fast, she's cool. Okay? That was a very long story to tell you that the secret is, as soon as one kid thinks you're cool, as soon as one cool kid thinks you're cool, you're in. So Tellman Knudson, same thing. He was going back here. No, no, no, no, and he got one cool kid, Kevin and Matt from Nitro who thought he was cool and then opened up everything else. So if you guys are on this ROR thing again, a couple things that I was hoping to get through to you guys, number one is, we're shooting for the stars, that'd be amazing, but don't start there because it's going to be really hard to get in. Build your thing. Find people who are around you who are doing the same, in the same business, same industry and start building from there and start growing. As you do that, it's going to start opening more doors for you. Someone's going to introduce you to somebody else, someone else is going to introduce you and you start building this network of people and you start doing it collectively. If you do it collectively, all, what's the saying? High tide rises all boats. So it starts getting bigger and bigger and bigger and eventually, it gets easier to open the next door and the next door. And eventually, what happens is, I had this group of people, Mike Filsaime and Gary Ambrose, Brad Callen and Brad Fallon, all these people, all my friends at the time, Frank Kern, all of us who are this level and eventually, at that point, we're at the level of all these other people. But guess what? There's always a next level. And there was this guy that, oh, I looked up at this guy, crazy. He's a giant, he's got big old teeth. Anyone guess who it is? It's Tony Robbins. And Tony's the next level up here. And Tony's up there and we're all down here. And one day, somehow, one of my cool kid friends got into Tony. I don't know how or who it was or anything, but somehow, one of them got into Tony. He had a meeting with Tony and blew Tony's mind and then my friend, I actually I know, it was Mike Koenigs. Mike Koenigs got into Tony somehow, blew his mind and then, so one cool guy, cool with Tony. And then Mike Koenigs introduced him to me like, "Hey, you should meet Russell." He's so and so, and suddenly Tony, I get a, and this is the craziest experience ever, Saturday morning with my kids getting ready and the phone rings, I pick it up and it's Tony Robbins' assistant. "Hey, Tony Robbins wants to see if you can meet him today?" I'm like, "Okay, who is this?" I thought it was my friends messing with me and they're like, "No, my name's Jay Garrity, I'm Tony Robbins assistant. He's in Salt Lake City, he wants to meet with you." I'm like, "I live in Boise." They're like, "Yeah, well, he knows who you are and he meet with you. Can you get to Salt Lake?" And I'm like, "Well, it's a five hour drive. I can jump in my car." He's like, "Oh, we're flying out in three hours." He's like, "How about next week? Can you meet Tony in Toronto? He's your UPW, you can show up, go to the event, walk on fire and then he'll have a private meeting with you." I was like, "What's your name again? Is this a real person?" I'm like, "Heck yes, I'll be in Toronto next week." So the next week, I'm flying to Toronto. Again, I've never been to a Tony Robbins event so I show up with my backpack, my computer, I'm going to sit back and take notes like the internet nerd that I am. And I walk in and people are jumping and screaming and we're sitting there dancing and rubbing people shoulders and I'm so confused what's even happening. And then, we walk on fire and the first time I met Tony actually was the fire walk. He had me in a VIP section, so imagine there's 2000 people in the event and then right next to the stage, he has these two VIP sections and I actually stood next to Chuck Liddell. I didn't know who Chuck Liddell was at the time, I'm like, "That guy looks scary," big old mustache and big old muscles and I was like, but he was there. Anyway, I saw him when he went to UFC and I'm like, "That was my partner at UPW, I know everything was messed up in his life. This is so weird." Anyway. He's probably offended I had no idea who actually was. Anyway, we're in this little group so we could have a chance, to go back, the first time I met Tony is, after everyone leaves the fire walk, we walked through the front thing and they opened the curtain and Tony's standing there and he was like, "Russell, I heard so much about you," he gives me this huge hug and then we walk with him and I did the fire walk with Tony and that's my first impression. But check it out, it wasn't because I emailed Tony and tried to get to know him. I probably emailed him a lot and it never made it to the gatekeepers. But it was because one cool kid got in there and told him I was cool. And after that, it was open. Doors were open. So this is in, in my mind, this is the stuff I want you guys thinking through. Sometimes, with Dream 100, we're going to turn the relationship, we're going to give a list and we're going to send it to mailboxes and that's going to be how we grow our company. There's a place and a time for that, but that's not how it really works. It's this organic thing where it's building actual relationships, getting to know people, finding out about them and their families and how can I serve them and back here, when we're all at this level, it's like me trying to help them like, "Oh, I tried this in my business and it worked. You should try that." We're having these back and forth and it builds these relationships. And then, together, we all collectively rise up to the next level and the next level and the next level to eventually, we are the top level and that's when it gets more and more fun. So that's what I was hoping to really share with you guys, especially because I think, for some of you guys, as I'm sure for many, you look at someone who, like me, who's been doing this now for 20 years, oh, it's easy for us. Anyone will take this call. Yeah, but it's 20 years I've been playing this game. 20 years I've been putting the coins in the deposit box over and over and over and over and over again. When I found out who Dan Kennedy was, I'm like, "Okay, I want to get to know that person, but I don't know how to get there and it was like, well, there's two ways I can get into Dan Kennedy's world. I can work my way in or I can buy my way in. I'm like, working my way could take a decade or two, so I'm going to buy my way in. So I was like, "Okay, I've joined the mastermind group, I'm getting in there." And then I didn't go. I have people, oh, people that joined my mastermind group this last time around, amazing group, but there's different, everyone's got a different mindset and I have people coming in initially and they're like, "Russell, this is so cool. Can I make a testimony with my video? Hey, can I get a picture?" And they were trying to take, take, take, take, I'm like, "Ah." When I went to Dan Kennedy's group, guess what I didn't do? I didn't take from Dan. First off, because I'm scared of him. Number two, I was like, all right, I'm going to serve these guys because I want Dan to know who my name is. I don't want me to message Dan, I want people telling Dan who I am. If I can do that, that's the secret. So I'm in Bill Grazer's group, I'm serving the group, I'm trying to help as much as possible. I'm helping these offline people in this group to launch online businesses. I'm helping them get funnels. I'm helping them do the launch, I'm doing coordination. All this stuff to serve Bill Grazer's group. And Bill's like, "Oh, my gosh, Russell's really helpful." And he tells Dan, "Dude, this guy in our group, he loves you, he loves everything, he's helping our group." And I always wanted to speak at Dan's event, but I'm like, I'm not going to ask him because I don't want to do it, but I'm just going to keep serving and eventually, he's going to have to, because I do so much stuff for so many people, they're going to want to put me on stage. So I get in that group and I'm serving like crazy. In fact, after, I think it was three years in, I wanted to, anyway, I had to fly to Baltimore three times a year and it's not just flying to Baltimore, Bill was in Baltimore. You'd fly to Baltimore and then you'd drive in a taxi for an hour to get to the hotel that Bill would have it at, and after three years I was like, "I can't do this anymore." So literally, I messaged Bill, I'm like, "Hey, I'm not going to re-up this next year because I just can't keep coming to Baltimore." And he literally was like, "This is the deal, Russell, you have to be in the room so you're not going to have to pay anymore, but you're still coming." I was like, "Okay." And for the next three years, I didn't pay but I kept showing up because I provided so much value, he's like, "You have to be in this room because you're facilitating all these things." And then he had me on stage, had me on stage again and then eventually, I remember the last event I spoke at, I spoke on stage four times. I was on stage longer than Dan Kennedy was. Do you think Dan Kennedy knew my name? Yes, he did. He was like, "There's this internet nerd who keeps showing up and helping everybody, he's never asked for anything. We should get to know him," and that's how I built a relationship with Dan and then with Bill and with all these kind of things. And now, fast forward a couple years later, the opportunity to buy Dan's company's there and I'm like, what if he hates me? Because he's not going to approve ... And I literally, I faxed him because you can't email Dan, he has no email, you have to fax him. So I had to open an eFax account, write it on a piece of paper, send it, it's this whole thing. So I faxed him, I was like, "Hey, there's an opportunity to buy your company, but I just want to make sure that you don't hate me or I'm not ... We're going to be working together so I want to make sure this is going to be a good fit." And he faxes me back, he was like, "Dude, every time I've heard about you, it's you on stage talking about how good I am, you always praise my name, all these kind of things. Of course, I would love to work with you," because he knew who I was. I had been trying to serve him for all this time and I'd never asked him for something so because of that, he said yes. And now we're have this partnership and we're 30 days away from watching the new magnetic marketing and you guys are going to die when you see this, it's the most exciting thing ever, but it all came off of that, building these relationships over the long term. If you guys haven't, on YouTube, there's a video, if you type in "Russell Brunson Tony Robbins Dream 100," there's a video documenting my Dream 100 process with Tony, which was over a decade and a half to do this thing, the very first time he actually promoted me. But it wasn't me coming in like, "Tony promote, Tony, promote." If I would've done that, I would've had one meeting with Tony and that would've been the last. It was a decade of me just, every meeting with Tony, "How can I help? How can I help?" People from this company would call like, "Hey, can you consult us on this thing?" I'm like, "Yes." "How much does it cost?" I'm like, "For Tony, it's free." "I'm sure your time’s valuable, we’re willing to pay you." "No, tell Tony, your money's no good with Russell," because I wanted the relationship. And fast forward now, I'm going to get emotional. Oh. This isn't a story that we've publicly told, but you guys know Funnel Hacking Live, Dave had his cancer, if you know the real story, it's literally the worst kind of cancer you have, they give them like a 6% survival rate past eight months, 10 months, something like that. So we were so scared and after Funnel Hacking Live, after Tony off stage, went backstage with him and Tony was like, "How can I serve? What else, what can I do for you guys?" And Todd had the impression, "Hey Tony, this is our friend and partner Dave. He's dying. Is there anything you can do?" And Tony says, "Yes, these are the people. Call this person, call this person. In fact, I'll connect you. Here's the people." Two weeks later, Dave's flying to Dallas, he's with this doctor who does things the opposite of what every other cancer doctor does, Dave spends two weeks down there with him. I won't get too deep into the details, but discovers there's a root canal that causes the tumor, pulls his tooth out, throws the oxygen in there, oxygens his body, does a bunch of things. Two days later, Dave goes back for his MRI where they're supposed to tell him how long he's got left so he can plan with his family. They do an MRI, the doctor looks inside and says, "There's not a bit of cancer inside you. What did you do the last two weeks?" And because of my relationship with Tony, I had access to this guy who saved Dave's life. And Dave's going to be here for the next 20, 30 years because I was willing to put in, for a decade and a half, this relationship with Tony and Tony had a relationship with these other guys and man ... So is it worth it? Yes. Is it worth financially? Yes. Is it worth it from so many more things? Yes. It is. So I'm forever grateful that I didn't ask Tony to promote my thing on day one. I'm forever grateful that I didn't try to figure out what I could take. I'm forever grateful that when they asked for help, I just gave it because I love Tony and because that opened all these doors where, yeah, so whew, not planning going there, but that's the power of this stuff. So when Christopher's talking about this, I'm sure he is told his story. He had a very similar situation where, because of the relationship, his life was saved. So you never know, it's coming into these things not looking for something, but coming in as a servant. And as you have that servant feeling and you're going into it, it's amazing what doors open and you never know what door you're going to need or when you're going to need it or what the thing is or what the, you know what I mean? It's crazy. Whew. I don't know how I wrap that up or how to- Don Mamone: Do you need a minute? Do you need a minute? I mean, I'm going to step in and just say, take a drip of water. That's probably one of the most amazing stories and I have to say that you, unknowingly maybe, and the reason you needed to tell that story was because we had an ongoing over-under bet on how long it takes a speaker to cry on Christopher's stage because so many people have come up and told stories from the depths of their heart and soul. So, hey, I want to thank you for joining those of us that have joined Christopher's stage in which you have an over-under on telling an emotional story, so thanks for that, Russell. Russell: No worries. You set a environment where it was there. Anyway. Yeah, I hope that this was helpful for you guys. Again, I was like, I could go and give you guys the foundation and step one and step two and step three, stuff we talked about here, but I was like, I don't want to do that. I want to be real as possible because it's real in so many aspects of your life. And now's the time, wherever you are, is to start planting those seeds and starting looking at who can you serve, who can you serve and the more you do that, the more doors open and the more things. And it's okay eventually because I think sometimes, people are scared to ask and I would tease Christopher about this. He's been building a relationship with me for now, I don't even know, three or four years and we used to have a joke inside of the office, "What's he going to ask?" Somebody's going to ask something. "I don't know. Maybe he's just going to keep serving and serving and never ask." And then when he finally is like, "Hey, I'm doing this thing, would you be willing?" "Finally, thank you for asking." Because we know, there's always, all of us, when I was dating my wife, I was asking her on a date and she knows my intentions. If I already came date number one, "Hey, can we get a picture just in case if we get married, we'll have the ... " Whatever. If I'd done these weird things along the way, it wouldn't have worked, but like everyone knows, we're in business, we're in things like that, we know what the goal is, but we're trying to feel people out to see if they're genuine or not. It's interesting. I heard Adam Sandler talk about it one time and he was like, "I don't have very many friends." He said the reason why is because, he's like, "Earlier in my career, as I started having more success, everyone wanted be my friend. I realized really quickly they didn't want to be my friend, they wanted something from me." And the higher tier you get, you'll find out that happens. For me, I don't have a whole bunch of friends because I don't know who my friends are a lot of times. It's interesting because there was a time in my life where I thought everyone who was coming was my friend and I started giving people jobs and some of you have heard the story, I built a huge company of over a hundred people and I thought they were my friends and were here because of the mission, because of the vision. And when we had a hiccup and things kind of crashed, they all went away. And it was interesting because thought that they were coming for that. I can't remember exactly where I was trying to go with this train of thought, but ... Oh, yeah. At the higher levels, just Understand that their guards are up because they've been burned in the past and it's like, who's true friends? And if you show up as a true friend where you're giving, you're serving, they know you want to do something with them eventually anyway, that's in the back of their mind, but they're testing, is this person the person who's coming because they're trying to get something from me or someone who genuinely wants to be a friend or genuinely wants to help, genuinely wants to do something? So it's just consistently showing up for a long time and maybe it's not as fast to turning on a Facebook ad, but for the long term stability, what you're trying to do, it's the best thing. Anyway, I hope that helps. I hope that gave somebody something today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 01 Dec 2021 09:00:00 -0000 ROR - It’s Not Who You Know, It’s Who Knows You (2 of 3) full 471 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In part 2 of this special 3 part series, you get to hear more of Russell’s presentation at the ROR (Return on Relationships) Symposium! In this half, Russell explains how you should provide value to people before you ask them for anything. Enjoy the... In part 2 of this special 3 part series, you get to hear more of Russell’s presentation at the ROR (Return on Relationships) Symposium! In this half, Russell explains how you should provide value to people before you ask them for anything. Enjoy the second half of this keynote presentation, and don’t forget to check out RORUniversity.com to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. I hope you enjoyed the last episode for my keynote presentation at Christopher Vos' ROR Symposium. So far, in the episode number one, I had a chance to talk us through some of the history and the background of how we started building our business and I'm excited this next episode's going to be the second half of my keynote presentation. I hope you enjoy. And then afterwards, the third episode, we're actually going to, I opened up some Q & A and we had a really good time doing some of that as well. That'll be the third episode, so this episode would be the last half of my keynote presentation. I hope you enjoy it. Again, if you want to go deeper with Christopher Vos, make sure you go to roruniversity.com and get on his list, read his stuff, listen to what he is doing because he is helping a lot of people to build businesses by using relationships and really understanding how to do the stuff we talk about. I talked about Dream 100 in the Traffic Secrets book. This is what he's talking at a much deeper, much more powerful level. With that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song and when we come back, you'll have a chance to listen to second half of my keynote from the ROR Symposium. Okay. Now, I'll tell a side story because it popped in my head right now and that's what I do, right? About the time, it was after Joe Vitale promoted me, I had a list with certain sites and then I got a phone call from a guy named Tellman Knudson. Anybody here know who Tellman is? Tellman used to be big at our space. He shifted it over to more hypnosis, personal development space. But Tellman messaged me on the phone. He was like, "Hey, Russell, I had this idea. I'm building or I'm interviewing all these people and," I can't remember, "I'm going to interview you for an hour about a topic and then I'm going to put it behind the squeeze page and then everyone's going to promote the squeeze page. People are going to join my list, they'll get your interview and all the other interviews." And I was like, Uh, okay, I think that's the worst idea ever." He's like, "What do you mean?" I'm like, "I'm not going to email my list to your squeeze page so they can opt in and join your list to get my free interview. I'll just give them my free interview. Why would I do that? It does it make any logical sense." He's like, "Well, everyone's going to promote it and that way, everybody, everybody's lists, people from other lists will see you as well and it's going to be the huge thing for you." I was like, "Dude, that's the stupidest idea ever. No. No." I told him no, flat out, I was like, "This is never going to work, but good luck in your future," and I hung up, right? I was nice because on my DISC profile, I'm a high S, so I can't be mean to people. So I was like, "Okay, well, sorry." Anyway, so that happens and then fast forward three months later, all of a sudden, in one day, I get emails from everybody, Joe Vitale, the Nitro Marketing guys, all the people who are the biggest of the time, emails from everybody and I open up and it's like, "There's this guy named Tellman Knutson, the interview is on his ListBuilder and you should go check it out." And I clicked on it and went to, it was called listcrusade.com, it was his site, I went to listcrusade.com and sure enough, there's an opt-in to get all these interviews and I opted in and there's all these people's interviews. I was like, "What? How do you pull it off? You got the biggest names in the world to go and do this." And I was just perplexed, like how? I'm like, "This is the dumbest idea ever. I should have done it. If it worked, this is crazy. So I found his number, I messaged him, "Okay, tell me, I'm so confused. Can I ask you a question?" So he jumped on a call with me and I was like, "Okay. I just saw yesterday 50 people all promoted your squeeze page." He's like, "Yeah, I've added 120,000, 130,000 people to my list and the last 48 hours." And I was like, "How did you do that?" And it was so fascinating. He said, "You know what, Russell? I called 49 people and I got 49 nos in a row. First one said no, no, no, no, no. You said no. Someone said, everyone said no." And he's like, "But guess what? The 50th person," he said it was Kevin and Matt from Nitro. He said, "I called Kevin and Matt and for some reason, they said yes. And after they said yes, I was like, "Cool, do you know else would be a good fit?" And then Kevin and Matt were like, "Oh, yeah, you should get so and so and so," and then they emailed the Nitro like, "Hey, you should meet so and so and so and so," they jumped over there. Those people said yes as well." And he's like, "The next 37 people in the row all said yes." Oh, he even had Jay Abraham on the list. Anyway, he said, "The next 37 people all said yes and here we are." And I was like, "Oh, my gosh, how many of us, including me, would've stopped at the first no or the second or the third? But as soon as he got one cool kid to think he was cool, he was in. Okay? So you start thinking about this, actually, this is probably more for the women. This is embarrassing, I'm going to say this. How many you guys ever seen the movie Never Been Kissed? Drew Barrymore. Okay. Macaulay, can you act this out while I explain? Just kidding. Okay. Here's the story from Never Been Kissed. Drew Barrymore, in the movie, she's never been kissed, she graduates high school and now she's a columnist at a newspaper. She's a big columnist and her brother was the cool kid. He was the jock and the coolest kid and he graduated now he's this loser because he's graduated from high school. Anyway, she's in her day job as a columnist and they're like, "We want article from what are the high school kids doing so we need you to go undercover back to high school and find out about the cool parties and all the cool stuff." So Josie, drew Barrymore's, character goes back to high school and within five seconds, she slides back into the nerd group which they're doing chess club and all these kind of things and she's writing articles about chess club and her editor's like, "No, we don't want these articles. I want the cool kids, the drugs and all this stuff, what's happening. We want the underground dirt, that's the article we're looking for." So she tries to get in and she's like, no one will, the cool kids club will not let her in. So she's home and she's frustrated and then her brother's there and her brother's played by David Arquette and so David Arquette is jealous. He's like, "I want to go back to high school, I was the coolest kid in high school." And, and Josie's like, "There's no way, you don't understand, it's harder, it's not the same thing. If you went back to school, you wouldn't be cool." And it gives the idea for him. He's like, "No, I'm going back to school." So he somehow, and Tammy says it isn't on Netflix, I'm sure it's on Netflix. Anyway, this is your homework. Everyone go watch it. So Drew Barrymore or David Arquette's character goes back and gets in high high school somehow and she sees him in the hallway, she's like, "You can't do this. It's not going to be like, you're not going to be cool like you were before." He's like, "Watch this." So he goes into the lunch room, this is the greatest scene of all film. He's in the lunch room, he's standing up on the table and he's got this huge bucket of cole slaw and he's trying to eat the entire thing, shove it in his mouth and the whole high school's cheering him on like, "Oh," and he's eating the stuff he slams the thing down. He's like, "Oh," and that fast, he's the coolest kid in high school, everybody loves him and he's the man. And then, the next day, he's like, "Okay, I'm going to show you, Josie. I'm going to make you cool." So he goes with Josie, his sister and one of the cool kids sees him and he's like, "Oh, why are you hanging out with her?" And he's like," "Her? She's the coolest girl. She actually broke up with me, she's so cool." All this stuff. And he starts talking about how cool she is and all of a sudden, everyone's like, "Oh," and then all of a sudden the cool kids are like, "Oh, she's cool." And all of a sudden, boom, she gets sucked in. And then one cool kid thinks she's cool, the next, the next and eventually, that fast, she's cool. Okay? That was a very long story to tell you that the secret is, as soon as one kid thinks you're cool, as soon as one cool kid thinks you're cool, you're in. So Tellman Knudson, same thing. He was going back here. No, no, no, no, and he got one cool kid, Kevin and Matt from Nitro who thought he was cool and then opened up everything else. So if you guys are on this ROR thing again, a couple things that I was hoping to get through to you guys, number one is, we're shooting for the stars, that'd be amazing, but don't start there because it's going to be really hard to get in. Build your thing. Find people who are around you who are doing the same, in the same business, same industry and start building from there and start growing. As you do that, it's going to start opening more doors for you. Someone's going to introduce you to somebody else, someone else is going to introduce you and you start building this network of people and you start doing it collectively. If you do it collectively, all, what's the saying? High tide rises all boats. So it starts getting bigger and bigger and bigger and eventually, it gets easier to open the next door and the next door. And eventually, what happens is, I had this group of people, Mike Filsaime and Gary Ambrose, Brad Callen and Brad Fallon, all these people, all my friends at the time, Frank Kern, all of us who are this level and eventually, at that point, we're at the level of all these other people. But guess what? There's always a next level. And there was this guy that, oh, I looked up at this guy, crazy. He's a giant, he's got big old teeth. Anyone guess who it is? It's Tony Robbins. And Tony's the next level up here. And Tony's up there and we're all down here. And one day, somehow, one of my cool kid friends got into Tony. I don't know how or who it was or anything, but somehow, one of them got into Tony. He had a meeting with Tony and blew Tony's mind and then my friend, I actually I know, it was Mike Koenigs. Mike Koenigs got into Tony somehow, blew his mind and then, so one cool guy, cool with Tony. And then Mike Koenigs introduced him to me like, "Hey, you should meet Russell." He's so and so, and suddenly Tony, I get a, and this is the craziest experience ever, Saturday morning with my kids getting ready and the phone rings, I pick it up and it's Tony Robbins' assistant. "Hey, Tony Robbins wants to see if you can meet him today?" I'm like, "Okay, who is this?" I thought it was my friends messing with me and they're like, "No, my name's Jay Garrity, I'm Tony Robbins assistant. He's in Salt Lake City, he wants to meet with you." I'm like, "I live in Boise." They're like, "Yeah, well, he knows who you are and he meet with you. Can you get to Salt Lake?" And I'm like, "Well, it's a five hour drive. I can jump in my car." He's like, "Oh, we're flying out in three hours." He's like, "How about next week? Can you meet Tony in Toronto? He's your UPW, you can show up, go to the event, walk on fire and then he'll have a private meeting with you." I was like, "What's your name again? Is this a real person?" I'm like, "Heck yes, I'll be in Toronto next week." So the next week, I'm flying to Toronto. Again, I've never been to a Tony Robbins event so I show up with my backpack, my computer, I'm going to sit back and take notes like the internet nerd that I am. And I walk in and people are jumping and screaming and we're sitting there dancing and rubbing people shoulders and I'm so confused what's even happening. And then, we walk on fire and the first time I met Tony actually was the fire walk. He had me in a VIP section, so imagine there's 2000 people in the event and then right next to the stage, he has these two VIP sections and I actually stood next to Chuck Liddell. I didn't know who Chuck Liddell was at the time, I'm like, "That guy looks scary," big old mustache and big old muscles and I was like, but he was there. Anyway, I saw him when he went to UFC and I'm like, "That was my partner at UPW, I know everything was messed up in his life. This is so weird." Anyway. He's probably offended I had no idea who actually was. Anyway, we're in this little group so we could have a chance, to go back, the first time I met Tony is, after everyone leaves the fire walk, we walked through the front thing and they opened the curtain and Tony's standing there and he was like, "Russell, I heard so much about you," he gives me this huge hug and then we walk with him and I did the fire walk with Tony and that's my first impression. But check it out, it wasn't because I emailed Tony and tried to get to know him. I probably emailed him a lot and it never made it to the gatekeepers. But it was because one cool kid got in there and told him I was cool. And after that, it was open. Doors were open. So this is in, in my mind, this is the stuff I want you guys thinking through. Sometimes, with Dream 100, we're going to turn the relationship, we're going to give a list and we're going to send it to mailboxes and that's going to be how we grow our company. There's a place and a time for that, but that's not how it really works. It's this organic thing where it's building actual relationships, getting to know people, finding out about them and their families and how can I serve them and back here, when we're all at this level, it's like me trying to help them like, "Oh, I tried this in my business and it worked. You should try that." We're having these back and forth and it builds these relationships. And then, together, we all collectively rise up to the next level and the next level and the next level to eventually, we are the top level and that's when it gets more and more fun. So that's what I was hoping to really share with you guys, especially because I think, for some of you guys, as I'm sure for many, you look at someone who, like me, who's been doing this now for 20 years, oh, it's easy for us. Anyone will take this call. Yeah, but it's 20 years I've been playing this game. 20 years I've been putting the coins in the deposit box over and over and over and over and over again. When I found out who Dan Kennedy was, I'm like, "Okay, I want to get to know that person, but I don't know how to get there and it was like, well, there's two ways I can get into Dan Kennedy's world. I can work my way in or I can buy my way in. I'm like, working my way could take a decade or two, so I'm going to buy my way in. So I was like, "Okay, I've joined the mastermind group, I'm getting in there." And then I didn't go. I have people, oh, people that joined my mastermind group this last time around, amazing group, but there's different, everyone's got a different mindset and I have people coming in initially and they're like, "Russell, this is so cool. Can I make a testimony with my video? Hey, can I get a picture?" And they were trying to take, take, take, take, I'm like, "Ah." When I went to Dan Kennedy's group, guess what I didn't do? I didn't take from Dan. First off, because I'm scared of him. Number two, I was like, all right, I'm going to serve these guys because I want Dan to know who my name is. I don't want me to message Dan, I want people telling Dan who I am. If I can do that, that's the secret. So I'm in Bill Grazer's group, I'm serving the group, I'm trying to help as much as possible. I'm helping these offline people in this group to launch online businesses. I'm helping them get funnels. I'm helping them do the launch, I'm doing coordination. All this stuff to serve Bill Grazer's group. And Bill's like, "Oh, my gosh, Russell's really helpful." And he tells Dan, "Dude, this guy in our group, he loves you, he loves everything, he's helping our group." And I always wanted to speak at Dan's event, but I'm like, I'm not going to ask him because I don't want to do it, but I'm just going to keep serving and eventually, he's going to have to, because I do so much stuff for so many people, they're going to want to put me on stage. So I get in that group and I'm serving like crazy. In fact, after, I think it was three years in, I wanted to, anyway, I had to fly to Baltimore three times a year and it's not just flying to Baltimore, Bill was in Baltimore. You'd fly to Baltimore and then you'd drive in a taxi for an hour to get to the hotel that Bill would have it at, and after three years I was like, "I can't do this anymore." So literally, I messaged Bill, I'm like, "Hey, I'm not going to re-up this next year because I just can't keep coming to Baltimore." And he literally was like, "This is the deal, Russell, you have to be in the room so you're not going to have to pay anymore, but you're still coming." I was like, "Okay." And for the next three years, I didn't pay but I kept showing up because I provided so much value, he's like, "You have to be in this room because you're facilitating all these things." And then he had me on stage, had me on stage again and then eventually, I remember the last event I spoke at, I spoke on stage four times. I was on stage longer than Dan Kennedy was. Do you think Dan Kennedy knew my name? Yes, he did. He was like, "There's this internet nerd who keeps showing up and helping everybody, he's never asked for anything. We should get to know him," and that's how I built a relationship with Dan and then with Bill and with all these kind of things. And now, fast forward a couple years later, the opportunity to buy Dan's company's there and I'm like, what if he hates me? Because he's not going to approve ... And I literally, I faxed him because you can't email Dan, he has no email, you have to fax him. So I had to open an eFax account, write it on a piece of paper, send it, it's this whole thing. So I faxed him, I was like, "Hey, there's an opportunity to buy your company, but I just want to make sure that you don't hate me or I'm not ... We're going to be working together so I want to make sure this is going to be a good fit." And he faxes me back, he was like, "Dude, every time I've heard about you, it's you on stage talking about how good I am, you always praise my name, all these kind of things. Of course, I would love to work with you," because he knew who I was. I had been trying to serve him for all this time and I'd never asked him for something so because of that, he said yes. And now we're have this partnership and we're 30 days away from watching the new magnetic marketing and you guys are going to die when you see this, it's the most exciting thing ever, but it all came off of that, building these relationships over the long term. If you guys haven't, on YouTube, there's a video, if you type in "Russell Brunson Tony Robbins Dream 100," there's a video documenting my Dream 100 process with Tony, which was over a decade and a half to do this thing, the very first time he actually promoted me. But it wasn't me coming in like, "Tony promote, Tony, promote." If I would've done that, I would've had one meeting with Tony and that would've been the last. It was a decade of me just, every meeting with Tony, "How can I help? How can I help?" People from this company would call like, "Hey, can you consult us on this thing?" I'm like, "Yes." "How much does it cost?" I'm like, "For Tony, it's free." "I'm sure your time’s valuable, we’re willing to pay you." "No, tell Tony, your money's no good with Russell," because I wanted the relationship. And fast forward now, I'm going to get emotional. Oh. This isn't a story that we've publicly told, but you guys know Funnel Hacking Live, Dave had his cancer, if you know the real story, it's literally the worst kind of cancer you have, they give them like a 6% survival rate past eight months, 10 months, something like that. So we were so scared and after Funnel Hacking Live, after Tony off stage, went backstage with him and Tony was like, "How can I serve? What else, what can I do for you guys?" And Todd had the impression, "Hey Tony, this is our friend and partner Dave. He's dying. Is there anything you can do?" And Tony says, "Yes, these are the people. Call this person, call this person. In fact, I'll connect you. Here's the people." Two weeks later, Dave's flying to Dallas, he's with this doctor who does things the opposite of what every other cancer doctor does, Dave spends two weeks down there with him. I won't get too deep into the details, but discovers there's a root canal that causes the tumor, pulls his tooth out, throws the oxygen in there, oxygens his body, does a bunch of things. Two days later, Dave goes back for his MRI where they're supposed to tell him how long he's got left so he can plan with his family. They do an MRI, the doctor looks inside and says, "There's not a bit of cancer inside you. What did you do the last two weeks?" And because of my relationship with Tony, I had access to this guy who saved Dave's life. And Dave's going to be here for the next 20, 30 years because I was willing to put in, for a decade and a half, this relationship with Tony and Tony had a relationship with these other guys and man ... So is it worth it? Yes. Is it worth financially? Yes. Is it worth it from so many more things? Yes. It is. So I'm forever grateful that I didn't ask Tony to promote my thing on day one. I'm forever grateful that I didn't try to figure out what I could take. I'm forever grateful that when they asked for help, I just gave it because I love Tony and because that opened all these doors where, yeah, so whew, not planning going there, but that's the power of this stuff. So when Christopher's talking about this, I'm sure he is told his story. He had a very similar situation where, because of the relationship, his life was saved. So you never know, it's coming into these things not looking for something, but coming in as a servant. And as you have that servant feeling and you're going into it, it's amazing what doors open and you never know what door you're going to need or when you're going to need it or what the thing is or what the, you know what I mean? It's crazy. Whew. I don't know how I wrap that up or how to- Don Mamone: Do you need a minute? Do you need a minute? I mean, I'm going to step in and just say, take a drip of water. That's probably one of the most amazing stories and I have to say that you, unknowingly maybe, and the reason you needed to tell that story was because we had an ongoing over-under bet on how long it takes a speaker to cry on Christopher's stage because so many people have come up and told stories from the depths of their heart and soul. So, hey, I want to thank you for joining those of us that have joined Christopher's stage in which you have an over-under on telling an emotional story, so thanks for that, Russell. Russell: No worries. You set a environment where it was there. Anyway. Yeah, I hope that this was helpful for you guys. Again, I was like, I could go and give you guys the foundation and step one and step two and step three, stuff we talked about here, but I was like, I don't want to do that. I want to be real as possible because it's real in so many aspects of your life. And now's the time, wherever you are, is to start planting those seeds and starting looking at who can you serve, who can you serve and the more you do that, the more doors open and the more things. And it's okay eventually because I think sometimes, people are scared to ask and I would tease Christopher about this. He's been building a relationship with me for now, I don't even know, three or four years and we used to have a joke inside of the office, "What's he going to ask?" Somebody's going to ask something. "I don't know. Maybe he's just going to keep serving and serving and never ask." And then when he finally is like, "Hey, I'm doing this thing, would you be willing?" "Finally, thank you for asking." Because we know, there's always, all of us, when I was dating my wife, I was asking her on a date and she knows my intentions. If I already came date number one, "Hey, can we get a picture just in case if we get married, we'll have the ... " Whatever. If I'd done these weird things along the way, it wouldn't have worked, but like everyone knows, we're in business, we're in things like that, we know what the goal is, but we're trying to feel people out to see if they're genuine or not. It's interesting. I heard Adam Sandler talk about it one time and he was like, "I don't have very many friends." He said the reason why is because, he's like, "Earlier in my career, as I started having more success, everyone wanted be my friend. I realized really quickly they didn't want to be my friend, they wanted something from me." And the higher tier you get, you'll find out that happens. For me, I don't have a whole bunch of friends because I don't know who my friends are a lot of times. It's interesting because there was a time in my life where I thought everyone who was coming was my friend and I started giving people jobs and some of you have heard the story, I built a huge company of over a hundred people and I thought they were my friends and were here because of the mission, because of the vision. And when we had a hiccup and things kind of crashed, they all went away. And it was interesting because thought that they were coming for that. I can't remember exactly where I was trying to go with this train of thought, but ... Oh, yeah. At the higher levels, just Understand that their guards are up because they've been burned in the past and it's like, who's true friends? And if you show up as a true friend where you're giving, you're serving, they know you want to do something with them eventually anyway, that's in the back of their mind, but they're testing, is this person the person who's coming because they're trying to get something from me or someone who genuinely wants to be a friend or genuinely wants to help, genuinely wants to do something? So it's just consistently showing up for a long time and maybe it's not as fast to turning on a Facebook ad, but for the long term stability, what you're trying to do, it's the best thing. Anyway, I hope that helps. I hope that gave somebody something today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In part 2 of this special 3 part series, you get to hear more of Russell’s presentation at the ROR (Return on Relationships) Symposium! In this half, Russell explains how you should provide value to people before you ask them for anything. 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Russell Brunson:

Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. I hope you enjoyed the last episode for my keynote presentation at Christopher Vos' ROR Symposium. So far, in the episode number one, I had a chance to talk us through some of the history and the background of how we started building our business and I'm excited this next episode's going to be the second half of my keynote presentation. I hope you enjoy.

And then afterwards, the third episode, we're actually going to, I opened up some Q & A and we had a really good time doing some of that as well. That'll be the third episode, so this episode would be the last half of my keynote presentation. I hope you enjoy it. Again, if you want to go deeper with Christopher Vos, make sure you go to roruniversity.com and get on his list, read his stuff, listen to what he is doing because he is helping a lot of people to build businesses by using relationships and really understanding how to do the stuff we talk about. I talked about Dream 100 in the Traffic Secrets book. This is what he's talking at a much deeper, much more powerful level.

With that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song and when we come back, you'll have a chance to listen to second half of my keynote from the ROR Symposium.

Okay. Now, I'll tell a side story because it popped in my head right now and that's what I do, right? About the time, it was after Joe Vitale promoted me, I had a list with certain sites and then I got a phone call from a guy named Tellman Knudson. Anybody here know who Tellman is? Tellman used to be big at our space. He shifted it over to more hypnosis, personal development space.

But Tellman messaged me on the phone. He was like, "Hey, Russell, I had this idea. I'm building or I'm interviewing all these people and," I can't remember, "I'm going to interview you for an hour about a topic and then I'm going to put it behind the squeeze page and then everyone's going to promote the squeeze page. People are going to join my list, they'll get your interview and all the other interviews." And I was like, Uh, okay, I think that's the worst idea ever." He's like, "What do you mean?" I'm like, "I'm not going to email my list to your squeeze page so they can opt in and join your list to get my free interview. I'll just give them my free interview. Why would I do that? It does it make any logical sense." He's like, "Well, everyone's going to promote it and that way, everybody, everybody's lists, people from other lists will see you as well and it's going to be the huge thing for you." I was like, "Dude, that's the stupidest idea ever. No. No." I told him no, flat out, I was like, "This is never going to work, but good luck in your future," and I hung up, right?

I was nice because on my DISC profile, I'm a high S, so I can't be mean to people. So I was like, "Okay, well, sorry." Anyway, so that happens and then fast forward three months later, all of a sudden, in one day, I get emails from everybody, Joe Vitale, the Nitro Marketing guys, all the people who are the biggest of the time, emails from everybody and I open up and it's like, "There's this guy named Tellman Knutson, the interview is on his ListBuilder and you should go check it out."

And I clicked on it and went to, it was called listcrusade.com, it was his site, I went to listcrusade.com and sure enough, there's an opt-in to get all these interviews and I opted in and there's all these people's interviews. I was like, "What? How do you pull it off? You got the biggest names in the world to go and do this." And I was just perplexed, like how? I'm like, "This is the dumbest idea ever. I should have done it. If it worked, this is crazy.

So I found his number, I messaged him, "Okay, tell me, I'm so confused. Can I ask you a question?" So he jumped on a call with me and I was like, "Okay. I just saw yesterday 50 people all promoted your squeeze page." He's like, "Yeah, I've added 120,000, 130,000 people to my list and the last 48 hours." And I was like, "How did you do that?" And it was so fascinating. He said, "You know what, Russell? I called 49 people and I got 49 nos in a row. First one said no, no, no, no, no. You said no. Someone said, everyone said no." And he's like, "But guess what? The 50th person," he said it was Kevin and Matt from Nitro. He said, "I called Kevin and Matt and for some reason, they said yes. And after they said yes, I was like, "Cool, do you know else would be a good fit?" And then Kevin and Matt were like, "Oh, yeah, you should get so and so and so," and then they emailed the Nitro like, "Hey, you should meet so and so and so and so," they jumped over there. Those people said yes as well."

And he's like, "The next 37 people in the row all said yes." Oh, he even had Jay Abraham on the list. Anyway, he said, "The next 37 people all said yes and here we are." And I was like, "Oh, my gosh, how many of us, including me, would've stopped at the first no or the second or the third? But as soon as he got one cool kid to think he was cool, he was in. Okay? So you start thinking about this, actually, this is probably more for the women. This is embarrassing, I'm going to say this. How many you guys ever seen the movie Never Been Kissed? Drew Barrymore. Okay. Macaulay, can you act this out while I explain? Just kidding. Okay.

Here's the story from Never Been Kissed. Drew Barrymore, in the movie, she's never been kissed, she graduates high school and now she's a columnist at a newspaper. She's a big columnist and her brother was the cool kid. He was the jock and the coolest kid and he graduated now he's this loser because he's graduated from high school. Anyway, she's in her day job as a columnist and they're like, "We want article from what are the high school kids doing so we need you to go undercover back to high school and find out about the cool parties and all the cool stuff." So Josie, drew Barrymore's, character goes back to high school and within five seconds, she slides back into the nerd group which they're doing chess club and all these kind of things and she's writing articles about chess club and her editor's like, "No, we don't want these articles. I want the cool kids, the drugs and all this stuff, what's happening. We want the underground dirt, that's the article we're looking for."

So she tries to get in and she's like, no one will, the cool kids club will not let her in. So she's home and she's frustrated and then her brother's there and her brother's played by David Arquette and so David Arquette is jealous. He's like, "I want to go back to high school, I was the coolest kid in high school." And, and Josie's like, "There's no way, you don't understand, it's harder, it's not the same thing. If you went back to school, you wouldn't be cool." And it gives the idea for him. He's like, "No, I'm going back to school." So he somehow, and Tammy says it isn't on Netflix, I'm sure it's on Netflix. Anyway, this is your homework. Everyone go watch it.

So Drew Barrymore or David Arquette's character goes back and gets in high high school somehow and she sees him in the hallway, she's like, "You can't do this. It's not going to be like, you're not going to be cool like you were before." He's like, "Watch this." So he goes into the lunch room, this is the greatest scene of all film. He's in the lunch room, he's standing up on the table and he's got this huge bucket of cole slaw and he's trying to eat the entire thing, shove it in his mouth and the whole high school's cheering him on like, "Oh," and he's eating the stuff he slams the thing down. He's like, "Oh," and that fast, he's the coolest kid in high school, everybody loves him and he's the man.

And then, the next day, he's like, "Okay, I'm going to show you, Josie. I'm going to make you cool." So he goes with Josie, his sister and one of the cool kids sees him and he's like, "Oh, why are you hanging out with her?" And he's like," "Her? She's the coolest girl. She actually broke up with me, she's so cool." All this stuff. And he starts talking about how cool she is and all of a sudden, everyone's like, "Oh," and then all of a sudden the cool kids are like, "Oh, she's cool." And all of a sudden, boom, she gets sucked in. And then one cool kid thinks she's cool, the next, the next and eventually, that fast, she's cool. Okay? That was a very long story to tell you that the secret is, as soon as one kid thinks you're cool, as soon as one cool kid thinks you're cool, you're in.

So Tellman Knudson, same thing. He was going back here. No, no, no, no, and he got one cool kid, Kevin and Matt from Nitro who thought he was cool and then opened up everything else. So if you guys are on this ROR thing again, a couple things that I was hoping to get through to you guys, number one is, we're shooting for the stars, that'd be amazing, but don't start there because it's going to be really hard to get in. Build your thing. Find people who are around you who are doing the same, in the same business, same industry and start building from there and start growing. As you do that, it's going to start opening more doors for you. Someone's going to introduce you to somebody else, someone else is going to introduce you and you start building this network of people and you start doing it collectively.

If you do it collectively, all, what's the saying? High tide rises all boats. So it starts getting bigger and bigger and bigger and eventually, it gets easier to open the next door and the next door. And eventually, what happens is, I had this group of people, Mike Filsaime and Gary Ambrose, Brad Callen and Brad Fallon, all these people, all my friends at the time, Frank Kern, all of us who are this level and eventually, at that point, we're at the level of all these other people. But guess what? There's always a next level. And there was this guy that, oh, I looked up at this guy, crazy. He's a giant, he's got big old teeth. Anyone guess who it is? It's Tony Robbins. And Tony's the next level up here.

And Tony's up there and we're all down here. And one day, somehow, one of my cool kid friends got into Tony. I don't know how or who it was or anything, but somehow, one of them got into Tony. He had a meeting with Tony and blew Tony's mind and then my friend, I actually I know, it was Mike Koenigs. Mike Koenigs got into Tony somehow, blew his mind and then, so one cool guy, cool with Tony. And then Mike Koenigs introduced him to me like, "Hey, you should meet Russell." He's so and so, and suddenly Tony, I get a, and this is the craziest experience ever, Saturday morning with my kids getting ready and the phone rings, I pick it up and it's Tony Robbins' assistant.

"Hey, Tony Robbins wants to see if you can meet him today?" I'm like, "Okay, who is this?" I thought it was my friends messing with me and they're like, "No, my name's Jay Garrity, I'm Tony Robbins assistant. He's in Salt Lake City, he wants to meet with you." I'm like, "I live in Boise." They're like, "Yeah, well, he knows who you are and he meet with you. Can you get to Salt Lake?" And I'm like, "Well, it's a five hour drive. I can jump in my car." He's like, "Oh, we're flying out in three hours." He's like, "How about next week? Can you meet Tony in Toronto? He's your UPW, you can show up, go to the event, walk on fire and then he'll have a private meeting with you." I was like, "What's your name again? Is this a real person?" I'm like, "Heck yes, I'll be in Toronto next week."

So the next week, I'm flying to Toronto. Again, I've never been to a Tony Robbins event so I show up with my backpack, my computer, I'm going to sit back and take notes like the internet nerd that I am. And I walk in and people are jumping and screaming and we're sitting there dancing and rubbing people shoulders and I'm so confused what's even happening. And then, we walk on fire and the first time I met Tony actually was the fire walk. He had me in a VIP section, so imagine there's 2000 people in the event and then right next to the stage, he has these two VIP sections and I actually stood next to Chuck Liddell. I didn't know who Chuck Liddell was at the time, I'm like, "That guy looks scary," big old mustache and big old muscles and I was like, but he was there. Anyway, I saw him when he went to UFC and I'm like, "That was my partner at UPW, I know everything was messed up in his life. This is so weird." Anyway. He's probably offended I had no idea who actually was.

Anyway, we're in this little group so we could have a chance, to go back, the first time I met Tony is, after everyone leaves the fire walk, we walked through the front thing and they opened the curtain and Tony's standing there and he was like, "Russell, I heard so much about you," he gives me this huge hug and then we walk with him and I did the fire walk with Tony and that's my first impression. But check it out, it wasn't because I emailed Tony and tried to get to know him. I probably emailed him a lot and it never made it to the gatekeepers. But it was because one cool kid got in there and told him I was cool. And after that, it was open. Doors were open.

So this is in, in my mind, this is the stuff I want you guys thinking through. Sometimes, with Dream 100, we're going to turn the relationship, we're going to give a list and we're going to send it to mailboxes and that's going to be how we grow our company. There's a place and a time for that, but that's not how it really works. It's this organic thing where it's building actual relationships, getting to know people, finding out about them and their families and how can I serve them and back here, when we're all at this level, it's like me trying to help them like, "Oh, I tried this in my business and it worked. You should try that." We're having these back and forth and it builds these relationships. And then, together, we all collectively rise up to the next level and the next level and the next level to eventually, we are the top level and that's when it gets more and more fun.

So that's what I was hoping to really share with you guys, especially because I think, for some of you guys, as I'm sure for many, you look at someone who, like me, who's been doing this now for 20 years, oh, it's easy for us. Anyone will take this call. Yeah, but it's 20 years I've been playing this game. 20 years I've been putting the coins in the deposit box over and over and over and over and over again.

When I found out who Dan Kennedy was, I'm like, "Okay, I want to get to know that person, but I don't know how to get there and it was like, well, there's two ways I can get into Dan Kennedy's world. I can work my way in or I can buy my way in. I'm like, working my way could take a decade or two, so I'm going to buy my way in. So I was like, "Okay, I've joined the mastermind group, I'm getting in there." And then I didn't go. I have people, oh, people that joined my mastermind group this last time around, amazing group, but there's different, everyone's got a different mindset and I have people coming in initially and they're like, "Russell, this is so cool. Can I make a testimony with my video? Hey, can I get a picture?" And they were trying to take, take, take, take, I'm like, "Ah." When I went to Dan Kennedy's group, guess what I didn't do? I didn't take from Dan. First off, because I'm scared of him. Number two, I was like, all right, I'm going to serve these guys because I want Dan to know who my name is. I don't want me to message Dan, I want people telling Dan who I am. If I can do that, that's the secret.

So I'm in Bill Grazer's group, I'm serving the group, I'm trying to help as much as possible. I'm helping these offline people in this group to launch online businesses. I'm helping them get funnels. I'm helping them do the launch, I'm doing coordination. All this stuff to serve Bill Grazer's group. And Bill's like, "Oh, my gosh, Russell's really helpful." And he tells Dan, "Dude, this guy in our group, he loves you, he loves everything, he's helping our group." And I always wanted to speak at Dan's event, but I'm like, I'm not going to ask him because I don't want to do it, but I'm just going to keep serving and eventually, he's going to have to, because I do so much stuff for so many people, they're going to want to put me on stage.

So I get in that group and I'm serving like crazy. In fact, after, I think it was three years in, I wanted to, anyway, I had to fly to Baltimore three times a year and it's not just flying to Baltimore, Bill was in Baltimore. You'd fly to Baltimore and then you'd drive in a taxi for an hour to get to the hotel that Bill would have it at, and after three years I was like, "I can't do this anymore." So literally, I messaged Bill, I'm like, "Hey, I'm not going to re-up this next year because I just can't keep coming to Baltimore." And he literally was like, "This is the deal, Russell, you have to be in the room so you're not going to have to pay anymore, but you're still coming." I was like, "Okay." And for the next three years, I didn't pay but I kept showing up because I provided so much value, he's like, "You have to be in this room because you're facilitating all these things."

And then he had me on stage, had me on stage again and then eventually, I remember the last event I spoke at, I spoke on stage four times. I was on stage longer than Dan Kennedy was. Do you think Dan Kennedy knew my name? Yes, he did. He was like, "There's this internet nerd who keeps showing up and helping everybody, he's never asked for anything. We should get to know him," and that's how I built a relationship with Dan and then with Bill and with all these kind of things.

And now, fast forward a couple years later, the opportunity to buy Dan's company's there and I'm like, what if he hates me? Because he's not going to approve ... And I literally, I faxed him because you can't email Dan, he has no email, you have to fax him. So I had to open an eFax account, write it on a piece of paper, send it, it's this whole thing. So I faxed him, I was like, "Hey, there's an opportunity to buy your company, but I just want to make sure that you don't hate me or I'm not ... We're going to be working together so I want to make sure this is going to be a good fit." And he faxes me back, he was like, "Dude, every time I've heard about you, it's you on stage talking about how good I am, you always praise my name, all these kind of things. Of course, I would love to work with you," because he knew who I was. I had been trying to serve him for all this time and I'd never asked him for something so because of that, he said yes.

And now we're have this partnership and we're 30 days away from watching the new magnetic marketing and you guys are going to die when you see this, it's the most exciting thing ever, but it all came off of that, building these relationships over the long term.

If you guys haven't, on YouTube, there's a video, if you type in "Russell Brunson Tony Robbins Dream 100," there's a video documenting my Dream 100 process with Tony, which was over a decade and a half to do this thing, the very first time he actually promoted me. But it wasn't me coming in like, "Tony promote, Tony, promote." If I would've done that, I would've had one meeting with Tony and that would've been the last. It was a decade of me just, every meeting with Tony, "How can I help? How can I help?" People from this company would call like, "Hey, can you consult us on this thing?" I'm like, "Yes." "How much does it cost?" I'm like, "For Tony, it's free." "I'm sure your time’s valuable, we’re willing to pay you." "No, tell Tony, your money's no good with Russell," because I wanted the relationship. And fast forward now, I'm going to get emotional.

Oh. This isn't a story that we've publicly told, but you guys know Funnel Hacking Live, Dave had his cancer, if you know the real story, it's literally the worst kind of cancer you have, they give them like a 6% survival rate past eight months, 10 months, something like that. So we were so scared and after Funnel Hacking Live, after Tony off stage, went backstage with him and Tony was like, "How can I serve? What else, what can I do for you guys?" And Todd had the impression, "Hey Tony, this is our friend and partner Dave. He's dying. Is there anything you can do?"

And Tony says, "Yes, these are the people. Call this person, call this person. In fact, I'll connect you. Here's the people." Two weeks later, Dave's flying to Dallas, he's with this doctor who does things the opposite of what every other cancer doctor does, Dave spends two weeks down there with him. I won't get too deep into the details, but discovers there's a root canal that causes the tumor, pulls his tooth out, throws the oxygen in there, oxygens his body, does a bunch of things. Two days later, Dave goes back for his MRI where they're supposed to tell him how long he's got left so he can plan with his family. They do an MRI, the doctor looks inside and says, "There's not a bit of cancer inside you. What did you do the last two weeks?" And because of my relationship with Tony, I had access to this guy who saved Dave's life. And Dave's going to be here for the next 20, 30 years because I was willing to put in, for a decade and a half, this relationship with Tony and Tony had a relationship with these other guys and man ...

So is it worth it? Yes. Is it worth financially? Yes. Is it worth it from so many more things? Yes. It is. So I'm forever grateful that I didn't ask Tony to promote my thing on day one. I'm forever grateful that I didn't try to figure out what I could take. I'm forever grateful that when they asked for help, I just gave it because I love Tony and because that opened all these doors where, yeah, so whew, not planning going there, but that's the power of this stuff.

So when Christopher's talking about this, I'm sure he is told his story. He had a very similar situation where, because of the relationship, his life was saved. So you never know, it's coming into these things not looking for something, but coming in as a servant. And as you have that servant feeling and you're going into it, it's amazing what doors open and you never know what door you're going to need or when you're going to need it or what the thing is or what the, you know what I mean? It's crazy. Whew. I don't know how I wrap that up or how to-

Don Mamone:

Do you need a minute? Do you need a minute? I mean, I'm going to step in and just say, take a drip of water. That's probably one of the most amazing stories and I have to say that you, unknowingly maybe, and the reason you needed to tell that story was because we had an ongoing over-under bet on how long it takes a speaker to cry on Christopher's stage because so many people have come up and told stories from the depths of their heart and soul. So, hey, I want to thank you for joining those of us that have joined Christopher's stage in which you have an over-under on telling an emotional story, so thanks for that, Russell.

Russell:

No worries. You set a environment where it was there. Anyway. Yeah, I hope that this was helpful for you guys. Again, I was like, I could go and give you guys the foundation and step one and step two and step three, stuff we talked about here, but I was like, I don't want to do that. I want to be real as possible because it's real in so many aspects of your life. And now's the time, wherever you are, is to start planting those seeds and starting looking at who can you serve, who can you serve and the more you do that, the more doors open and the more things.

And it's okay eventually because I think sometimes, people are scared to ask and I would tease Christopher about this. He's been building a relationship with me for now, I don't even know, three or four years and we used to have a joke inside of the office, "What's he going to ask?" Somebody's going to ask something. "I don't know. Maybe he's just going to keep serving and serving and never ask." And then when he finally is like, "Hey, I'm doing this thing, would you be willing?" "Finally, thank you for asking." Because we know, there's always, all of us, when I was dating my wife, I was asking her on a date and she knows my intentions. If I already came date number one, "Hey, can we get a picture just in case if we get married, we'll have the ... " Whatever. If I'd done these weird things along the way, it wouldn't have worked, but like everyone knows, we're in business, we're in things like that, we know what the goal is, but we're trying to feel people out to see if they're genuine or not.

It's interesting. I heard Adam Sandler talk about it one time and he was like, "I don't have very many friends." He said the reason why is because, he's like, "Earlier in my career, as I started having more success, everyone wanted be my friend. I realized really quickly they didn't want to be my friend, they wanted something from me." And the higher tier you get, you'll find out that happens. For me, I don't have a whole bunch of friends because I don't know who my friends are a lot of times. It's interesting because there was a time in my life where I thought everyone who was coming was my friend and I started giving people jobs and some of you have heard the story, I built a huge company of over a hundred people and I thought they were my friends and were here because of the mission, because of the vision. And when we had a hiccup and things kind of crashed, they all went away. And it was interesting because thought that they were coming for that.

I can't remember exactly where I was trying to go with this train of thought, but ... Oh, yeah. At the higher levels, just Understand that their guards are up because they've been burned in the past and it's like, who's true friends? And if you show up as a true friend where you're giving, you're serving, they know you want to do something with them eventually anyway, that's in the back of their mind, but they're testing, is this person the person who's coming because they're trying to get something from me or someone who genuinely wants to be a friend or genuinely wants to help, genuinely wants to do something? So it's just consistently showing up for a long time and maybe it's not as fast to turning on a Facebook ad, but for the long term stability, what you're trying to do, it's the best thing. Anyway, I hope that helps. I hope that gave somebody something today.

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]]> 1479 no What's Your Return On Relationship...? (1 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/whats-your-return-on-relationship-1-of-3 On this special 3 part series, you get to hear Russell’s presentation at the ROR (Return on Relationships) Symposium! Russell discusses the importance of what he calls the “Dream 100”, and how it helps create relationships that support both his business and his personal life. Check out RORUniversity.com to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey. What's going on, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Want to welcome you back to The Marking Secrets podcast. I got something special for you guys over the next three episodes. I'm actually on vacation right now, Thanksgiving vacation. My wife and my kids and I are all in Kauai, Hawaii. You might hear them giggling in the background depending on how well this microphone picks up noise. And so, I didn't have a chance to record a podcast for the next couple episodes, but before I left on vacation, I actually had a chance to be part of a really cool summit that my friend, Christopher Voss put on called The ROR Symposium. And he had me as one of his keynote speakers, and he had me talk about just my history, my journey, using relationships, and joint ventures, and things like that. The Dream 100, as I call it, to build my business and everything we've done over the last almost 20 years now. And so, it was a really special presentation. It was one that I came to with notes, but not PowerPoint slides and things like that. It was more, I just wanted to kind of share from my heart. And if you know Christopher Voss you know he's a very emotional person and he brings that emotion. And apparently, I found out afterwards, all the speakers end up crying. In fact, I did as well during my presentation. So, there's something really special in the middle that you'll find out about. But anyway, I hope you really enjoy these. They're going to help you to learn how to build joint ventures, how to find your Dream 100, how to build better relationships with people, and how to turn that into more business and help you to get your mission out there to change more people's lives. If you don't know who Christopher Voss is, I recommend following him. He told me that the best site to send you guys to... I said, "Where should I send people to listen who want to go deeper with you and learn more about relationships and how to build businesses using them?" And he said theroruniversity.com would be the best place for you guys to go. So, if you want to go deeper with Chris, go to roruniversity.com, check out what he's got there. And with that said, I'm going to cue the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to hear the first part of my keynote presentation. As I was kind of thinking through this, I was like, "Man, there's 30-something speakers coming. Everyone's talking about different ways to do this ROR, return on relationship game. And everyone's got different ideas and things, and it got me to back, man, almost 19, 20 years ago now. And so I... If you guys are cool with it, I just want to do some story time and tell you guys my story and some of the things along the journey that I tried, that I... failures, the successes, specifically inside of this relationship, and joint venture partners, and things like that. And hopefully, it'll give you guys some comfort. Because everyone starting different points and sometimes you look at someone like me like, "Oh, well, Russell knows Tony Robbins, and Dan Kennedy," and da, da, da. But there was a day, 18, 19, 20 years ago where I was a little kid scared out of my mind awkwardly trying to message people pre-Facebook. So, I'm sending emails and trying to... and it was scary, and hard, and so hopefully, it'll give you some faith in wherever you are in your journey. Just like, "Okay, this is right. It's going to be good." It's going to be for some of us, especially the introverts like me, this is going to be something that kind of stretches you and feels uncomfortable sometimes, but then it can become something you really love and enjoy and gives you the ability to change the world at a level you never thought was possible. So, that's kind of my game plan. Then after that, we can open for some Q&A and... or whatever we want to do. Or we can celebrate, have a party, or we can sing Christopher's song and let him have a nap. Hey, whatever we want to do, it'll be fun. So, looking back, it's funny, because when I got started in this business, I was still in college. So, I had just met my beautiful wife, Colette, who I think we're celebrating our... I think it's our 20th anniversary this summer, which is crazy. So, she's stuck around my chaos for this long and she's... Gosh, she's the best. But we had just gotten married and I was trying to figure out how to support her. I was wrestling and I didn't want to quit wrestling, so I'm like, "How do I wrestle and do all these things at once?" And so, I did what most people do and I went to Google and typed in how to make money. Right? Which, who here has done that at one point in your career? And you go on this rabbit trail, right? Of like, "Whoa, there's a lot of things to do." And everyone's got a different thing, and you start joining email newsletters. You know what those are at first and you start getting these emails from all these people, and then for me, it was like I was reading blogs and then I was joining... They didn't have Facebook groups back then. They had forums. So, I was joining the Warrior forum and How-To Court forum, and then... Anyway, there's like 20 or 30 different forums. So, all day long I'm reading forums of people, and I'm getting emails, and I'm learning all these things. And it was interesting because I was learning all the different pieces, right? Some people would talk about SEO and that's what they geeked out on. So, I started reading all the SEO articles, and I started learning how to do SEO and backlinking. So, I was like, "Oh, this is how you make money." And then someone else was like, "SEO's stupid. This is how we make money," and they had a whole different strategy. And then someone else had a different strategy, and soon I was just looking at all these shiny objects and I was like, "I don't know which one I'm supposed to do." How many of you guys ever felt that before? There's like 8,000 things. Like, "Russell said funnel. Someone else said this." Like, "Ah." And so, I was in that as well, and so I was just like... I got in this perpetual learning phase, right? Where I was learning and studying, and learning and studying. Then I started watching what was happening. Right? And I was on all these different email lists, but then it seemed like it was coordinated. Once every couple months, all of a sudden I would get an email from 30 or 40 people who somehow I had got on their email lists and all of them would be talking about the same product at the exact same time. Right? And all of a sudden you're like, "Oh, my gosh. Everyone's talking about this thing." Right? And I think the first ones I saw there was an old e-book called Google Cash. And it's how people are making money on Google doing Google ads. It was Chris Carpenter's offer, and he had gotten a whole bunch of affiliates. I don't know how at the time, but he had a whole bunch of affiliates all promote at the same time, so my inbox... And I'm at college opening my inbox and there's like 40 emails from people all talking about this book. I'm like, "This is the thing everyone's talking about. It's got to be the secret." I was so excited. And I went and paid this $67 for an e-book, which no one knew what e-books were back then and we were all confused. Literally, I remember messaging the support team and I was... like two weeks later. I'm like, "When's the book going to show up?" And they're like, "It's digital." I'm like, "I don't know what that means." They're like, "It means you download it." And again, 20 years ago, that was like... that was weird. That wasn't a thing that nowadays we all get it. But back then... And so I download this book, and I'm trying to read it, and I was just like, "I paid $67 for a PDF. My wife's going to kill me when she finds out." But I'm reading it and I'm getting all excited like t's next big thing, and all of a sudden, there's this next promotion and everybody's talking about this next thing. I'm getting all these... like 20, 30 emails. And I was like, "It's got to be this," so I jumped over there, and it's started me on this rabbit trail. And I just remember being confused, and overwhelmed, and all the things a lot of us go through. Right? And about that time... This was probably the very first ever high-ticket... Not even high-ticket, like $1,00 product. There was this guy, and I didn't know who he was at the time, but again, all of a sudden the emails start flying in my inbox. Right? And they're all for this guy. They say this guy is the godfather of internet marketing and he's retiring. And because of that, he's giving away his entire empire, everything he's built. And he called it the farewell package. Like, "This is my farewell from the internet. I'm done. I'm out. I've made millions of dollars, now I'm leaving." And his name was Mark Joyner. And I didn't know who Mark was at the time, but I started reading the emails and the stuff, and I was just like, "This is the greatest thing in the world." Right? So, I remember going to the sales page, reading through it ready to try to buy it for 20, or 30 bucks, or whatever, and the price went was $1,000. And I was like, "Oh, I do not have $1,000. I've never had $1,000." My wife was working, supporting at the time, and she was making, I believe $9.50 an hour. So, I mean, it would take her, man, over 100 hours. No, because you got taxes. Probably 200 hours of her working, so that's a lot of time to pay for this $1,000 course. I remember looking at it and I was like, "Oh, I don't have any money. I'm a broke wrestler." I had just gotten married, therefore, now I'm living off my wife who's making $9.50 an hour as a receptionist where she was working at. And I was like, "There's no way I can do it." And so, I remember not being able to buy it, not being able to buy it, but I kept seeing the emails, and the promotions, and the urgency, and the scarcity, and it eventually got to the point where it was about to sell out. Probably five or six weeks into this whole thing and about to sell out. And they were closing down the cart. And I remember the night before... This is... Again, for those of you who are newer before there were webinars, there were things called teleseminars where you would pick up the phone, and you would call, and you'd just listen to people talk. And so, I called this teleseminar, and on the teleseminar these guys are talking about the Mark Joyner Farewell Package. And it was just... It was going to be gone the next day and you had to get it. And I remember listening to it and being sick to my stomach and laying in bed that night, and I was like, "I have to do it. This is my thing," and being so stressed out. And finally, the next morning I was still laying in bed. My wife woke up and I was like, "Colette, I know I bought a lot of stupid things that I haven't done anything with any of it yet, but I think this is the one. I think this is the thing." I remember asking her. I was like, "Can I buy it?" And she said something like... In fact, I talked about it. I wrote it in the Traffic Secrets book, this story, but she's like, "Well, do you think this is the one for you?" I was like, "I think this is the one." She's like, "Okay, then here's our credit card." And we only had like a $500 credit limit I had to call up my bank like, "Can you double our limit to 1,000?" This is how like green we were back then. And we did it, and I bought the course, and I remember I got the course and there was like 15 CDs, all these interviews. And so, I started listening to the CDs, and what was crazy, as Mark was talking, he kept talking over and over and over again, about two concepts. The first one was the power of your own list. He kept talking about, "You have to have your own email list, and this is how it works, and if you have an email list of 10,000 people, you send an email out to your offer, you can sell a whole bunch of your things." And I started realize, I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. This is literally what's been happening to me. I'm on all these people's email lists. They have a big email list and send an email, and if I buy a $1,000 course, they must have made 500 bucks." And I started putting the pieces together. It's like, "Oh, my gosh. This is how it works." And some of you guys... I'm not going to tell the whole story, but some of you guys have heard my story. After listening to two or three of these CDs I was like, "I need an email list." And I went down that whole journey where I got called a spammer and... Anyway, so that's... Insert that story there. I'm not going to tell that story because it's outside the context of this event. But I started trying to send email and it didn't work. And I was just like, "This thing Mark is teaching me, I need to have an email list, but everyone's got one, except for me. I don't have a list. It's not fair." And I kept listening to Mark's course, and as he got deeper and deeper in the course, he started talking about this thing called joint ventures. And he was like, "Every time you start a new company or launch a new product, the first thing we do before you buy ads or anything is we go and we have these different partners who all already have email lists." He's like, "Go with people who already have email lists, and then some of them will promote and send traffic to my thing, and that's how you make money." And I was like... I was just seeing... You know there's those curtain in front of your face, and the curtain's lifted? I saw the Wizard of Oz. I'm like, "This is how it works. You have to have an email list. If you don't have an email list, you find other people with email lists, and they promote your offer, and then the people buy your product, and then you have an email list." And I was like... It all started making sense in my head. I was like, "Okay." And then I did what I'm sure all of you guys did, especially if you've read Traffic Secrets book... And I didn't know what this was called at the time. I didn't have words for it, but it was basically my first Dream 100. I was like, "Okay. Who's got an email list?" Like, "Mark said people have email lists. We need to find people with email lists," and so that was kind of the next question. And so, I started making my first Dream 100 list. And it was funny because I had this farewell package I bought from Mark Joyner and he had all the people he interviewed. So I said, "Well, this is my Dream 100, all the people Mark interviewed." And so, I don't remember most of the names. I do remember Joe Vitale though. He was one of the names. And some of you guys know Joe Vitale. If you go to mrfire.com, he's written like 400 books. He's awesome. I wrote Joe Vitale down. I started writing other people's names down. And so, I remember I'm building this Dream 100 list and I was like, "Okay, this is easy. I'm just going to email them all, and then they're going to promote my thing, and I'm going to be rich. This seems really awesome." Right? And I'm sure some of you guys have thought of that before. Hopefully, it's not just me. So, I start emailing Joe Vitale, and I can't remember all the other names. Joe's the one that stuck out in my head. I remember emailing them all and then just waiting like, "Okay, they're going to respond back to me, and then this is going to be this big thing, and I'm going to make a bunch of money." And I think I had my first or second product at the time, so it was like I had a product for them to sell and everything. Sent all the emails out and it was crickets. Not one person wrote back to me. And I was like, "Huh." I was like, "Okay, either this Mark Joyner's full of crap or I need to send another email." So, being a relentless person, I send another email to all them like, "Hey, Joe Vitale. Did you not get my email? Because I've got this new product and if you promote it, we can split the money 50/50. It's going to be awesome." Right? Like he's for sure... Like, "I'll even give you 60% commission." Maybe I'll blow his mind. Right? So, I tell him this thing, crickets. Nobody responds back to me. And I remember just being like... I was like, "This internet thing doesn't work." So, I remember being frustrated and just not knowing what to do, not believing this JV thing actually worked. Assuming that it's impossible to build an email list and I was stuck in that rut for a while. Probably, I don't know how many, four or five months of this rut of just like, "It didn't work. I tried." And have you guys done that where you try something somebody told you and then you're like, "Oh"? It reminds me of... Well, never mind. I'm not going to tell that story, but it reminds me of just so many of us do that where we're trying to follow a guru. We try the thing and it doesn't work, and we're like, "Oh, it didn't work." It's like, maybe we just didn't execute it quite correctly. So, fast forward a little while later there was this internet marketing event. It was Armand Morin. It was called the Big Seminar back then. And it was the seminar in the industry. Kind of like Funnel Hacking Live is nowadays. It was the seminar. And so, I remember saving up some money and we flew out to... And I had made a little bit of money online at this point. Not a lot. I was making, I don't know, maybe 1,000 bucks a month or something. So, I had a little bit of money just so I didn't have to yell... borrow more money from Colette's credit card to go and go to this event. So, I fly out to this event. It's in Atlanta. I go to the seminar and I remember thinking, "All the speakers on stage, I'm going to get all... That's going to be my next affiliates or my next people I'm going to be partners with." And so, we're seeing all the speakers and they seem bigger than life. They're on stage, and they're talking, and I was just like, "If any of these guys promoted my product, I'd be rich." That's the thing going through my head. Right? And so, I'm seeing them, writing all their names down. I'm like, "I'm going to become partners with them and become friends with them. I'm going to go meet them face-to-face. Maybe that's the secret. If I meet them face-to-face then it'll be easy." Unfortunately, I'm insanely introverted, and shy, and scared. So, I'm at the event, I see the person walking by. I remember seeing Stephen Pierce. He was the guy at the time. He walked past and I was just like... He walked right past me, and he walked past, and I'm like, "Ah, I blew it. Stupid, Russell. Stupid, Russell. You didn't even talk to him." And I'm sitting there in the hallway and all of a sudden Armand... Actually, I was in the bathroom and Armand walked next to me in the urinal next to me. I'm like, "Armand's right here. What do I do? Do I say something? I can't say in the bathroom. It's so awkward." And he looks over and he is like, "Hey, man. How's it going?" I'm like, "Good." And he is like, "All right," and then walks away and walks out of the bathroom. I'm like, "Ah, I blew it again. I blew it again." You know? And I'm too scared to talk to any of the speakers, but I'm like... For me, I'm like, "This is the key. This is the key to my freedom is these speakers," and I didn't dare do it. I wimped out every single person. I didn't talk to a single one of them. And then at nights, all the attendees would go to the bar. Now, I'm not a drinker. I've never drank in my life. Most people don't believe me, but I've literally never drank in my entire life. So, I'd go to these bars and I was like, "I don't want people to think I'm drinking," because like I have a thing like that where I want to avoid the appearance of evil at all costs. Right? So, I remember I'd go to the bar and I was like, "Ah, how do I..." And literally, the bartender was like, "You want something to drink?" I was like, "Can you give me milk?" He was like, "Seriously?" I'm like, "I don't know. Can you?" I was like "Because if it's going to be a Sprite, people going to think it's some fizzy drink." I don't know. I don't even know what drinks are. Like, "It's going to be fizzy something." So, I'm like, "If you give me milk they're going to know that it's not alcohol." Right? So, he's like, "All right." So, the guy gives me a milk. I'm holding this milk at the bar walking around and everyone's like... All these people start coming to me, which is really cool, and they're like, "Are you drinking milk?" I was like, "Yeah." They're like, "Why are drinking milk?" I'm like, "Oh, well, I'm Mormon, so I don't drink." They all kind of laugh at me, but it opened dialogue when they came to me. And this is... Okay, side note. Interesting for the introvert. Who are the introverts in the room? If you're introvert, I learned something really cool. Nicholas Bailey actually told me this. He dresses weird because he's introverted and he's too scared to go talk to people. He's like, "If I do something weird," he's like, "people come to me and like, 'Oh, nice shirt. Nice glasses. Nice,'" blah, blah, blah, blah. And so, that's what happens. I had this weird thing, and then people came to me. They're like, "Why are you drinking milk in a bar?" And then it started a conversation, and then when I'm in a conversation I can do it. It's the walking up to. Like, "How am I going to go and..." You know what I mean? So scary for me. And so, people started talking to me. We started becoming friends and get to know people, and I'm talking in this group, and it was interesting because everyone I was talking to, they all had businesses just like me, but they weren't the guy on stage with a list of 100,000 people and all this kind of stuff They were here and they had a list of like 500 people. Or I got a list of 1,200 people. They were all kind of at this level. About the same level I was at. I was like, "Oh, my gosh," and we started talking, getting to know each other. And back then it was before Skype or before... It was pre-Skype. It was pre... What do we use nowadays? Slack or Instant Messenger. Whatever. We used to use Yahoo Messenger, or IRQ, or AOL, and so it always like, "What messenger are you on? Here's my AOL chat," or, "Here's my IRQ." Or ICQ Sorry. ICQ. Or, "Here's my..." And so, they give them to you, and so that was how we get to know people. So, I put it out, write it down, and then I remember the people. I remember Mike Phillip's name was on Yahoo Messenger. His name was signanddrive.com. And I remember Brad Callen. I remember Brad Fallon. And so, I started meeting all these people at the bar while I'm drinking my milk, and getting to know them, and I'm writing down all their little handles. And then we get home and away from the event, and so I start putting those things in and I start messaging them. I feel way more comfortable talking through text, through Yahoo Messenger. I was like, "Hey, great meeting you at the event," blah, blah, blah. "This is a picture of me so you remember who I was." Right? And the person would write back, "Oh, yeah. It was really cool. You were the guy with the milk, right?" I'm like, "Yeah." And we'd start this dialogue. And then I was like, "Okay..." Not even thinking that these guys would be big partners someday, but I kind of started getting to know these people. And we were all kind of the same level. And this is the key. Okay? I'm trying to tell stories with hopefully principles you guys can pick from it. So, all these people were at the same level. And I remember because at the same time I was messaging Joe, Vitale, and messaging all the speakers in the event, and none of them are responding to me. It's just like crickets. No one's responding back. I'm talking to these guys. And I remember I was creating an offer and these guys had become my friends. And I was like, "Hey, can you check this out? Do you think this is good? Is the offer good?" And they started messaging back, and all of a sudden they started becoming involved in my business, right? They had a vested interest because they were kind of like, "Oh, I would do this," or, "I'd try this over here. And all of a sudden they started sharing ideas back and forth and it was really cool. And then they would share with me what they were doing back and forth, and it was really, really cool. And I had vested interest in their projects because I was like, "Oh, you should try this, or, "Oh, I did this. You should try this." We built this little group of people. And I don't even know. It was probably four, five, six people maybe that we kind of did this thing. And I remember because about this time is when my very first software product ever came out, and I don't talk much about this product. It was a product called ZIP Brander, and I was so proud of it. And I remember I sent it to Mike Filsaime. I was like, "Hey, here's my first software. Check it out." He was like, "Dude, that's so cool. Do you want me to promote it to my list?" And I was like, "Wait, he just asked me." Like never it happened. I was just like, "I've been asking all these people at this level up here, all the people I'm looking up to, the gurus, the big famous people. No one, crickets, and all of a sudden my friend's, like, 'I'll promote it to my list.'" And I was like, "Dude, you serious?" He's like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Okay." And so I give him the link. He sends an email to his list, and I can't remember. I paid him like 50, 60, 70. I don't know. I was like, "You can have all the money. I just want... I need a list. I know the goal. The goal to get a list. I'll give you 100% commission." Right? And so, he promoted and I think he sold... I don't know, he sold five or six copies of my thing, but then I got the money, and then I gave most of it to him. But then what happened is I got five or six customers, but a bunch of people... I had a pop-up on the site. A bunch of people filled out the pop-up, and I got like 300 or 400 people on my email list. And I was like, "This is awesome." And then I knew Mike had a product, and I was like, "Hey, man." I was like, "Dude, I love..." He had a product called Carbon Copy Marketing back then or something. It was a two-disc DVD set. And this is before DVD, so he literally would go and he would print a DVD and ship it out to you from his house. This is how... 20 years ago. Remember, this is before things like that. And so, he said, "Yeah." So, I emailed my list of like 300 people from him the 400 or 500 people I built, so maybe a thousand from my list. I sent the email and I sold like five or six of his DVDs. And he is like, "Thanks, man." And we did our first little cross-promotion, and me and Mike became friends. And then Mike told me. Then Mike's like, "Dude, you know who you should do? I met this guy named Gary Ambrose. You should meet Gary because Gary has got a list too, and he promoted the same DVDs you just promoted and it was awesome. You should get to know him." So, he introduced me to Gary. Me and Gary met up, and I was like, "Oh." And Gary and I started sharing ideas, and then eventually he promoted my things, I promoted his, and then Gary's like, "Oh, dude, you should meet so and so." And I was like, "Oh, you should meet..." And all of a sudden we started this little four or five people start introducing more and more people, and soon I've got 20 or 30 friends all on Yahoo Messenger and AOL that we're talking back and forth and getting to know each other. Right? And what's interesting is that we all kind of helped promoting each other. Our list went from 400 or 500 people to 1,000 to 1,500, to 1,000 to 2,500, and they kept growing and growing. And I was looking at this little group of people all working together. It was like a groundswell where our businesses all started gradually rising together. What do they say? A rising tide raises all ships, right? That's what started happening. And we started getting bigger and bigger. I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. This is so cool." And then we started doing more things and this is, man, a two or three-year period of time while I was in college, we were going back and doing these things. And it was just... It was really, really cool. Right? And I remember one day Mike had this idea, Mike Filsaime had this idea for a product called Butterfly Marketing. Some of you guys may have heard of it, but it was the first time he had the idea. And he's like, "Hey, man, check out the sales letter." He had this huge sales letter. And on the sales letter, he had these testimonials from all the people. All the people you'd want, right? I was like, "How'd you get all those guys' testimonials?" He's like, "Oh, I didn't. I just put their pictures in just as the placeholders as a dream of someday I'm wanting to get these people's testimonials." I was like, "Oh, that'd be so cool to get to know them." And then he's like, "Well, I met so and so. I know so and so who does know that person," and all of a sudden this network started happening, right? Anyway, Mike went and started messaging and eventually got to the person, one of the people, and they gave him a thing, and all of a sudden he got a bigger promotion from a bigger person. And what happened is, is we started doing this. Again, the people I looked up to were way up here and they wouldn't respond to me and things like that. And this group down here became friends. We all started growing together, and eventually what started happening is as we got bigger and bigger and bigger, we got closer to these people. I remember probably, man, two years, maybe three years into this business I had an idea. And I was creating this whole project. It was a membership site. It was called The Lost Files, and it was based on old public domain books, which I could talk about for six years. But it's this geeky, nerdy thing that you can make money with. And so I got excited, I'm creating this thing, and I was like, "Joe Vitale, he's written like 500 books." I'm like, "Oh, Joe would be my dream person." I know Joe had talked about public domain in the past. Joe had actually published a couple books from the public domain. And I was like, "He'd be my dream partner." But I was like, "He's ignored like 40 emails from me. There's no way he's going to respond to me now." Right? But I was like, "Oh, I got to do something." So, I remember I messaged him again this time and I was like, "Hey, Joe. Sorry to bug you. I have this new site." I explained what my site, thelostfiles.com. Like, "This is what is, how it works," and everything. And then the next day I get email back from Joe, and I was too scared to even open it. I'm like, "This is crazy." And Joe messaged me back. He's like, "Hey, Russell, so good to meet you." He's like, "I've been seeing your name everywhere. All these different people keep promoting your stuff. They keep popping up in my inbox. The Lost Files sounds awesome." The way he made the connection, he didn't... I don't think he... He didn't connect that it was me who was annoying him for like 40 emails prior. He just didn't connect it. Or maybe he just ignored it, or he forgave me, or whatever, but he message back and said, "Yes." And I was like, "Joe Vitale said yes." And I was freaking out. And so he goes and he does this... We had this promotion where we had a teleseminar together. He promoted his list. And then at the teleseminar he promoted The Lost Files, and we signed up like 300 members off his list at like 40 bucks a month, which for a college kid, is insane. And it was this one deal, and then Joe was like, "Oh, by the way, have you ever met so and so, and so and so?" and starts opening these doors again. Now, because I've gotten closer and closer, I got one person in and all of sudden it opened up this whole network of people. And that was my journey for the first three or four years. And so I wanted to kind of lead with that because again, I think so many of you guys are like me where you see the people. I meet people all the time. "Russell, you say to build a Dream 100 list, I've got to dream one, and it's just you." And I'm like, "Not a good strategy." I literally said Dream 100 for a very important reason because it shouldn't be me. I do maybe one promotion a year and usually, it's for Tony Robbins. And so, for me to say yes, it's going to be like... We got to date for a decade before it's going to happen, so if you're banking on that it's going to be a long, long time for something to happen, right? I was like, "Instead, go and do things with people at your own tier, your own level where they're looking for things, and looking for cross-promotions, and things will start happening. And then what happened is you start rising to the top, and all of a sudden people like me are going to start seeing you. You show up my news feed. I start seeing emails." All of a sudden it's like now there's this relationship, right? It's funny. There's... This is a funny story. So, one of my buddies, I met him probably... It's probably been 12 years ago now. Some of you guys know him. He's Chad Wallner. He's a chiropractor. I talk about him in the Dot Com Secrets book. But he moved into our area, and so we go to church. We were going to the same church, and so he shows up and he sees me. And he was seeing me online. He knew I was and stuff. He came to me and he's like, "Russell." He's like, "Dude, this is so... I can't believe you're in my ward. I've seen you before," blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. And he's like, "We actually have a mutual friend together." And I was like, "We do?" He's like, "Yeah." So, he's trying to build a connection so we can connect and stuff. And it was interesting because he said, "We got this mutual friend." And then he told me the name. He's like, "Here's the guy's name." And I was like, "Don't know who he is." He was like, "Oh, weird." He's like, "He talks about you all the time as if you guys were best friends." I was like, "I don't know who that is. I'm so sorry." And years later, Chad and I had this discussion about this and it was funny because he was like, "Man, I..." The realization is it's not who you know, it's who knows you. Right? I knew who Joe Vitale was. I knew who these people... I knew Tony Robbins. So, I wanted them, but it's not that I know them. I need them to know me. Right? So, it's how do you get them to know you? Well, it's by doing cool stuff in the market that they're playing in. Showing up. Will they see you in news feeds, see you in emails, see you in stuff? Where all of a sudden they keep seeing these things and then they see you. They got to know who you are. Right? When you approach them like, "Hey, my name is so and so," if they don't know who you are, it's going to be really hard to build a relationship. If they're like, "Hey, this is so and so," it's easy. For example, I was trying to do a negotiation with someone the other day. I wish I could tell you all the details. I can't though. Anyway, really big company. You'd be aware of who they are. And so, I tried to get a meeting with the founder of it, and we get on a Zoom call like this, and the very first thing he says, he's like, "Man, Russell," he's like, "I see you like 12 times a day. You are everywhere in my news feed. I get emails from you. You must be the best internet marketer on the planet." And I was like, "This is going to be the easiest negotiation in my entire life because he knows exactly who I am." Right? As opposed to me coming to him and trying to explain who I was. Right? And so it's like, as you're doing stuff actively in the marketplace, people will start seeing that and become aware of you. Right? And that's how you start rising to the top. I get people all the time that message me like, "Hey, can I speak at Funnel Hacking Live?" I'm like, "I don't know who you are." Like, "I'm the best speaker. Here's my speaker," blah, blah, blah. I'm like, "I don't know who you are." Right? But check this out. McCall Jones, who I think is on here, or she was on here earlier, right? McCall, she showed up on Funnel Hacking Live. Then she does this thing, and then she starts publishing, and she starts doing everything, and I start seeing her everywhere. I see her energy and her excitement. I see how she's developing things. She's like using things she learned from me, but developing her own things, which was really cool. Because I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. She's a good student and she's doing things." And this whole thing starts happening, and I see her in my feed. I see her all the time. And my friends start talking about her, and then Monica, who's on this as well. Monica messaged me. There's McCall right there. Yeah. What's up? And Monica messaged me, "You know McCall? You got to..." And so, her friends are calling me and telling me to listen and stuff. And soon, I'm watching everything she's doing. And I'm like, "Oh, my gosh, I'm impressed." I start podcasts. How many... Once or twice I talked about you on the podcast before we even met officially. I'm like, "This girl McCall keeps showing up. She's doing these cool things." And on Funnel Hacking Live, I'm like, "Who should speak on Funnel Hacking Live?" I'm like, "There's this girl who's never spoken on stage before. Right? She's never... Doesn't like, 'Here's my speaker reel. I've got a perfect presentation.'" But I'm seeing that. I was like, "She'd be like the perfect person to come on stage and, and speak." And so anyway... Hey, McCall. What's up? McCall Jones: Thank you. Wow, that's so nice. I'm just hyping you up, over here reacting to all of your stuff, so hey. Funnel Hacking Live. Woo hoo! Russell: All right. But conceptually, you guys, it make sense. If you want to get into, they call it the good old boys club. Like, "How do I get in the good old boys club?" It's the way you get into it is you have to infiltrate it. And it starts finding people at your own level and start playing the game, start moving forward, start making noise, start doing stuff, and then people are going to start seeing you and start becoming aware of you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000 What's Your Return On Relationship...? (1 of 3) full 470 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this special 3 part series, you get to hear Russell’s presentation at the ROR (Return on Relationships) Symposium! Russell discusses the importance of what he calls the “Dream 100”, and how it helps create relationships that support both his... On this special 3 part series, you get to hear Russell’s presentation at the ROR (Return on Relationships) Symposium! Russell discusses the importance of what he calls the “Dream 100”, and how it helps create relationships that support both his business and his personal life. Check out RORUniversity.com to learn more! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey. What's going on, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Want to welcome you back to The Marking Secrets podcast. I got something special for you guys over the next three episodes. I'm actually on vacation right now, Thanksgiving vacation. My wife and my kids and I are all in Kauai, Hawaii. You might hear them giggling in the background depending on how well this microphone picks up noise. And so, I didn't have a chance to record a podcast for the next couple episodes, but before I left on vacation, I actually had a chance to be part of a really cool summit that my friend, Christopher Voss put on called The ROR Symposium. And he had me as one of his keynote speakers, and he had me talk about just my history, my journey, using relationships, and joint ventures, and things like that. The Dream 100, as I call it, to build my business and everything we've done over the last almost 20 years now. And so, it was a really special presentation. It was one that I came to with notes, but not PowerPoint slides and things like that. It was more, I just wanted to kind of share from my heart. And if you know Christopher Voss you know he's a very emotional person and he brings that emotion. And apparently, I found out afterwards, all the speakers end up crying. In fact, I did as well during my presentation. So, there's something really special in the middle that you'll find out about. But anyway, I hope you really enjoy these. They're going to help you to learn how to build joint ventures, how to find your Dream 100, how to build better relationships with people, and how to turn that into more business and help you to get your mission out there to change more people's lives. If you don't know who Christopher Voss is, I recommend following him. He told me that the best site to send you guys to... I said, "Where should I send people to listen who want to go deeper with you and learn more about relationships and how to build businesses using them?" And he said theroruniversity.com would be the best place for you guys to go. So, if you want to go deeper with Chris, go to roruniversity.com, check out what he's got there. And with that said, I'm going to cue the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to hear the first part of my keynote presentation. As I was kind of thinking through this, I was like, "Man, there's 30-something speakers coming. Everyone's talking about different ways to do this ROR, return on relationship game. And everyone's got different ideas and things, and it got me to back, man, almost 19, 20 years ago now. And so I... If you guys are cool with it, I just want to do some story time and tell you guys my story and some of the things along the journey that I tried, that I... failures, the successes, specifically inside of this relationship, and joint venture partners, and things like that. And hopefully, it'll give you guys some comfort. Because everyone starting different points and sometimes you look at someone like me like, "Oh, well, Russell knows Tony Robbins, and Dan Kennedy," and da, da, da. But there was a day, 18, 19, 20 years ago where I was a little kid scared out of my mind awkwardly trying to message people pre-Facebook. So, I'm sending emails and trying to... and it was scary, and hard, and so hopefully, it'll give you some faith in wherever you are in your journey. Just like, "Okay, this is right. It's going to be good." It's going to be for some of us, especially the introverts like me, this is going to be something that kind of stretches you and feels uncomfortable sometimes, but then it can become something you really love and enjoy and gives you the ability to change the world at a level you never thought was possible. So, that's kind of my game plan. Then after that, we can open for some Q&A and... or whatever we want to do. Or we can celebrate, have a party, or we can sing Christopher's song and let him have a nap. Hey, whatever we want to do, it'll be fun. So, looking back, it's funny, because when I got started in this business, I was still in college. So, I had just met my beautiful wife, Colette, who I think we're celebrating our... I think it's our 20th anniversary this summer, which is crazy. So, she's stuck around my chaos for this long and she's... Gosh, she's the best. But we had just gotten married and I was trying to figure out how to support her. I was wrestling and I didn't want to quit wrestling, so I'm like, "How do I wrestle and do all these things at once?" And so, I did what most people do and I went to Google and typed in how to make money. Right? Which, who here has done that at one point in your career? And you go on this rabbit trail, right? Of like, "Whoa, there's a lot of things to do." And everyone's got a different thing, and you start joining email newsletters. You know what those are at first and you start getting these emails from all these people, and then for me, it was like I was reading blogs and then I was joining... They didn't have Facebook groups back then. They had forums. So, I was joining the Warrior forum and How-To Court forum, and then... Anyway, there's like 20 or 30 different forums. So, all day long I'm reading forums of people, and I'm getting emails, and I'm learning all these things. And it was interesting because I was learning all the different pieces, right? Some people would talk about SEO and that's what they geeked out on. So, I started reading all the SEO articles, and I started learning how to do SEO and backlinking. So, I was like, "Oh, this is how you make money." And then someone else was like, "SEO's stupid. This is how we make money," and they had a whole different strategy. And then someone else had a different strategy, and soon I was just looking at all these shiny objects and I was like, "I don't know which one I'm supposed to do." How many of you guys ever felt that before? There's like 8,000 things. Like, "Russell said funnel. Someone else said this." Like, "Ah." And so, I was in that as well, and so I was just like... I got in this perpetual learning phase, right? Where I was learning and studying, and learning and studying. Then I started watching what was happening. Right? And I was on all these different email lists, but then it seemed like it was coordinated. Once every couple months, all of a sudden I would get an email from 30 or 40 people who somehow I had got on their email lists and all of them would be talking about the same product at the exact same time. Right? And all of a sudden you're like, "Oh, my gosh. Everyone's talking about this thing." Right? And I think the first ones I saw there was an old e-book called Google Cash. And it's how people are making money on Google doing Google ads. It was Chris Carpenter's offer, and he had gotten a whole bunch of affiliates. I don't know how at the time, but he had a whole bunch of affiliates all promote at the same time, so my inbox... And I'm at college opening my inbox and there's like 40 emails from people all talking about this book. I'm like, "This is the thing everyone's talking about. It's got to be the secret." I was so excited. And I went and paid this $67 for an e-book, which no one knew what e-books were back then and we were all confused. Literally, I remember messaging the support team and I was... like two weeks later. I'm like, "When's the book going to show up?" And they're like, "It's digital." I'm like, "I don't know what that means." They're like, "It means you download it." And again, 20 years ago, that was like... that was weird. That wasn't a thing that nowadays we all get it. But back then... And so I download this book, and I'm trying to read it, and I was just like, "I paid $67 for a PDF. My wife's going to kill me when she finds out." But I'm reading it and I'm getting all excited like t's next big thing, and all of a sudden, there's this next promotion and everybody's talking about this next thing. I'm getting all these... like 20, 30 emails. And I was like, "It's got to be this," so I jumped over there, and it's started me on this rabbit trail. And I just remember being confused, and overwhelmed, and all the things a lot of us go through. Right? And about that time... This was probably the very first ever high-ticket... Not even high-ticket, like $1,00 product. There was this guy, and I didn't know who he was at the time, but again, all of a sudden the emails start flying in my inbox. Right? And they're all for this guy. They say this guy is the godfather of internet marketing and he's retiring. And because of that, he's giving away his entire empire, everything he's built. And he called it the farewell package. Like, "This is my farewell from the internet. I'm done. I'm out. I've made millions of dollars, now I'm leaving." And his name was Mark Joyner. And I didn't know who Mark was at the time, but I started reading the emails and the stuff, and I was just like, "This is the greatest thing in the world." Right? So, I remember going to the sales page, reading through it ready to try to buy it for 20, or 30 bucks, or whatever, and the price went was $1,000. And I was like, "Oh, I do not have $1,000. I've never had $1,000." My wife was working, supporting at the time, and she was making, I believe $9.50 an hour. So, I mean, it would take her, man, over 100 hours. No, because you got taxes. Probably 200 hours of her working, so that's a lot of time to pay for this $1,000 course. I remember looking at it and I was like, "Oh, I don't have any money. I'm a broke wrestler." I had just gotten married, therefore, now I'm living off my wife who's making $9.50 an hour as a receptionist where she was working at. And I was like, "There's no way I can do it." And so, I remember not being able to buy it, not being able to buy it, but I kept seeing the emails, and the promotions, and the urgency, and the scarcity, and it eventually got to the point where it was about to sell out. Probably five or six weeks into this whole thing and about to sell out. And they were closing down the cart. And I remember the night before... This is... Again, for those of you who are newer before there were webinars, there were things called teleseminars where you would pick up the phone, and you would call, and you'd just listen to people talk. And so, I called this teleseminar, and on the teleseminar these guys are talking about the Mark Joyner Farewell Package. And it was just... It was going to be gone the next day and you had to get it. And I remember listening to it and being sick to my stomach and laying in bed that night, and I was like, "I have to do it. This is my thing," and being so stressed out. And finally, the next morning I was still laying in bed. My wife woke up and I was like, "Colette, I know I bought a lot of stupid things that I haven't done anything with any of it yet, but I think this is the one. I think this is the thing." I remember asking her. I was like, "Can I buy it?" And she said something like... In fact, I talked about it. I wrote it in the Traffic Secrets book, this story, but she's like, "Well, do you think this is the one for you?" I was like, "I think this is the one." She's like, "Okay, then here's our credit card." And we only had like a $500 credit limit I had to call up my bank like, "Can you double our limit to 1,000?" This is how like green we were back then. And we did it, and I bought the course, and I remember I got the course and there was like 15 CDs, all these interviews. And so, I started listening to the CDs, and what was crazy, as Mark was talking, he kept talking over and over and over again, about two concepts. The first one was the power of your own list. He kept talking about, "You have to have your own email list, and this is how it works, and if you have an email list of 10,000 people, you send an email out to your offer, you can sell a whole bunch of your things." And I started realize, I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. This is literally what's been happening to me. I'm on all these people's email lists. They have a big email list and send an email, and if I buy a $1,000 course, they must have made 500 bucks." And I started putting the pieces together. It's like, "Oh, my gosh. This is how it works." And some of you guys... I'm not going to tell the whole story, but some of you guys have heard my story. After listening to two or three of these CDs I was like, "I need an email list." And I went down that whole journey where I got called a spammer and... Anyway, so that's... Insert that story there. I'm not going to tell that story because it's outside the context of this event. But I started trying to send email and it didn't work. And I was just like, "This thing Mark is teaching me, I need to have an email list, but everyone's got one, except for me. I don't have a list. It's not fair." And I kept listening to Mark's course, and as he got deeper and deeper in the course, he started talking about this thing called joint ventures. And he was like, "Every time you start a new company or launch a new product, the first thing we do before you buy ads or anything is we go and we have these different partners who all already have email lists." He's like, "Go with people who already have email lists, and then some of them will promote and send traffic to my thing, and that's how you make money." And I was like... I was just seeing... You know there's those curtain in front of your face, and the curtain's lifted? I saw the Wizard of Oz. I'm like, "This is how it works. You have to have an email list. If you don't have an email list, you find other people with email lists, and they promote your offer, and then the people buy your product, and then you have an email list." And I was like... It all started making sense in my head. I was like, "Okay." And then I did what I'm sure all of you guys did, especially if you've read Traffic Secrets book... And I didn't know what this was called at the time. I didn't have words for it, but it was basically my first Dream 100. I was like, "Okay. Who's got an email list?" Like, "Mark said people have email lists. We need to find people with email lists," and so that was kind of the next question. And so, I started making my first Dream 100 list. And it was funny because I had this farewell package I bought from Mark Joyner and he had all the people he interviewed. So I said, "Well, this is my Dream 100, all the people Mark interviewed." And so, I don't remember most of the names. I do remember Joe Vitale though. He was one of the names. And some of you guys know Joe Vitale. If you go to mrfire.com, he's written like 400 books. He's awesome. I wrote Joe Vitale down. I started writing other people's names down. And so, I remember I'm building this Dream 100 list and I was like, "Okay, this is easy. I'm just going to email them all, and then they're going to promote my thing, and I'm going to be rich. This seems really awesome." Right? And I'm sure some of you guys have thought of that before. Hopefully, it's not just me. So, I start emailing Joe Vitale, and I can't remember all the other names. Joe's the one that stuck out in my head. I remember emailing them all and then just waiting like, "Okay, they're going to respond back to me, and then this is going to be this big thing, and I'm going to make a bunch of money." And I think I had my first or second product at the time, so it was like I had a product for them to sell and everything. Sent all the emails out and it was crickets. Not one person wrote back to me. And I was like, "Huh." I was like, "Okay, either this Mark Joyner's full of crap or I need to send another email." So, being a relentless person, I send another email to all them like, "Hey, Joe Vitale. Did you not get my email? Because I've got this new product and if you promote it, we can split the money 50/50. It's going to be awesome." Right? Like he's for sure... Like, "I'll even give you 60% commission." Maybe I'll blow his mind. Right? So, I tell him this thing, crickets. Nobody responds back to me. And I remember just being like... I was like, "This internet thing doesn't work." So, I remember being frustrated and just not knowing what to do, not believing this JV thing actually worked. Assuming that it's impossible to build an email list and I was stuck in that rut for a while. Probably, I don't know how many, four or five months of this rut of just like, "It didn't work. I tried." And have you guys done that where you try something somebody told you and then you're like, "Oh"? It reminds me of... Well, never mind. I'm not going to tell that story, but it reminds me of just so many of us do that where we're trying to follow a guru. We try the thing and it doesn't work, and we're like, "Oh, it didn't work." It's like, maybe we just didn't execute it quite correctly. So, fast forward a little while later there was this internet marketing event. It was Armand Morin. It was called the Big Seminar back then. And it was the seminar in the industry. Kind of like Funnel Hacking Live is nowadays. It was the seminar. And so, I remember saving up some money and we flew out to... And I had made a little bit of money online at this point. Not a lot. I was making, I don't know, maybe 1,000 bucks a month or something. So, I had a little bit of money just so I didn't have to yell... borrow more money from Colette's credit card to go and go to this event. So, I fly out to this event. It's in Atlanta. I go to the seminar and I remember thinking, "All the speakers on stage, I'm going to get all... That's going to be my next affiliates or my next people I'm going to be partners with." And so, we're seeing all the speakers and they seem bigger than life. They're on stage, and they're talking, and I was just like, "If any of these guys promoted my product, I'd be rich." That's the thing going through my head. Right? And so, I'm seeing them, writing all their names down. I'm like, "I'm going to become partners with them and become friends with them. I'm going to go meet them face-to-face. Maybe that's the secret. If I meet them face-to-face then it'll be easy." Unfortunately, I'm insanely introverted, and shy, and scared. So, I'm at the event, I see the person walking by. I remember seeing Stephen Pierce. He was the guy at the time. He walked past and I was just like... He walked right past me, and he walked past, and I'm like, "Ah, I blew it. Stupid, Russell. Stupid, Russell. You didn't even talk to him." And I'm sitting there in the hallway and all of a sudden Armand... Actually, I was in the bathroom and Armand walked next to me in the urinal next to me. I'm like, "Armand's right here. What do I do? Do I say something? I can't say in the bathroom. It's so awkward." And he looks over and he is like, "Hey, man. How's it going?" I'm like, "Good." And he is like, "All right," and then walks away and walks out of the bathroom. I'm like, "Ah, I blew it again. I blew it again." You know? And I'm too scared to talk to any of the speakers, but I'm like... For me, I'm like, "This is the key. This is the key to my freedom is these speakers," and I didn't dare do it. I wimped out every single person. I didn't talk to a single one of them. And then at nights, all the attendees would go to the bar. Now, I'm not a drinker. I've never drank in my life. Most people don't believe me, but I've literally never drank in my entire life. So, I'd go to these bars and I was like, "I don't want people to think I'm drinking," because like I have a thing like that where I want to avoid the appearance of evil at all costs. Right? So, I remember I'd go to the bar and I was like, "Ah, how do I..." And literally, the bartender was like, "You want something to drink?" I was like, "Can you give me milk?" He was like, "Seriously?" I'm like, "I don't know. Can you?" I was like "Because if it's going to be a Sprite, people going to think it's some fizzy drink." I don't know. I don't even know what drinks are. Like, "It's going to be fizzy something." So, I'm like, "If you give me milk they're going to know that it's not alcohol." Right? So, he's like, "All right." So, the guy gives me a milk. I'm holding this milk at the bar walking around and everyone's like... All these people start coming to me, which is really cool, and they're like, "Are you drinking milk?" I was like, "Yeah." They're like, "Why are drinking milk?" I'm like, "Oh, well, I'm Mormon, so I don't drink." They all kind of laugh at me, but it opened dialogue when they came to me. And this is... Okay, side note. Interesting for the introvert. Who are the introverts in the room? If you're introvert, I learned something really cool. Nicholas Bailey actually told me this. He dresses weird because he's introverted and he's too scared to go talk to people. He's like, "If I do something weird," he's like, "people come to me and like, 'Oh, nice shirt. Nice glasses. Nice,'" blah, blah, blah, blah. And so, that's what happens. I had this weird thing, and then people came to me. They're like, "Why are you drinking milk in a bar?" And then it started a conversation, and then when I'm in a conversation I can do it. It's the walking up to. Like, "How am I going to go and..." You know what I mean? So scary for me. And so, people started talking to me. We started becoming friends and get to know people, and I'm talking in this group, and it was interesting because everyone I was talking to, they all had businesses just like me, but they weren't the guy on stage with a list of 100,000 people and all this kind of stuff They were here and they had a list of like 500 people. Or I got a list of 1,200 people. They were all kind of at this level. About the same level I was at. I was like, "Oh, my gosh," and we started talking, getting to know each other. And back then it was before Skype or before... It was pre-Skype. It was pre... What do we use nowadays? Slack or Instant Messenger. Whatever. We used to use Yahoo Messenger, or IRQ, or AOL, and so it always like, "What messenger are you on? Here's my AOL chat," or, "Here's my IRQ." Or ICQ Sorry. ICQ. Or, "Here's my..." And so, they give them to you, and so that was how we get to know people. So, I put it out, write it down, and then I remember the people. I remember Mike Phillip's name was on Yahoo Messenger. His name was signanddrive.com. And I remember Brad Callen. I remember Brad Fallon. And so, I started meeting all these people at the bar while I'm drinking my milk, and getting to know them, and I'm writing down all their little handles. And then we get home and away from the event, and so I start putting those things in and I start messaging them. I feel way more comfortable talking through text, through Yahoo Messenger. I was like, "Hey, great meeting you at the event," blah, blah, blah. "This is a picture of me so you remember who I was." Right? And the person would write back, "Oh, yeah. It was really cool. You were the guy with the milk, right?" I'm like, "Yeah." And we'd start this dialogue. And then I was like, "Okay..." Not even thinking that these guys would be big partners someday, but I kind of started getting to know these people. And we were all kind of the same level. And this is the key. Okay? I'm trying to tell stories with hopefully principles you guys can pick from it. So, all these people were at the same level. And I remember because at the same time I was messaging Joe, Vitale, and messaging all the speakers in the event, and none of them are responding to me. It's just like crickets. No one's responding back. I'm talking to these guys. And I remember I was creating an offer and these guys had become my friends. And I was like, "Hey, can you check this out? Do you think this is good? Is the offer good?" And they started messaging back, and all of a sudden they started becoming involved in my business, right? They had a vested interest because they were kind of like, "Oh, I would do this," or, "I'd try this over here. And all of a sudden they started sharing ideas back and forth and it was really cool. And then they would share with me what they were doing back and forth, and it was really, really cool. And I had vested interest in their projects because I was like, "Oh, you should try this, or, "Oh, I did this. You should try this." We built this little group of people. And I don't even know. It was probably four, five, six people maybe that we kind of did this thing. And I remember because about this time is when my very first software product ever came out, and I don't talk much about this product. It was a product called ZIP Brander, and I was so proud of it. And I remember I sent it to Mike Filsaime. I was like, "Hey, here's my first software. Check it out." He was like, "Dude, that's so cool. Do you want me to promote it to my list?" And I was like, "Wait, he just asked me." Like never it happened. I was just like, "I've been asking all these people at this level up here, all the people I'm looking up to, the gurus, the big famous people. No one, crickets, and all of a sudden my friend's, like, 'I'll promote it to my list.'" And I was like, "Dude, you serious?" He's like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Okay." And so I give him the link. He sends an email to his list, and I can't remember. I paid him like 50, 60, 70. I don't know. I was like, "You can have all the money. I just want... I need a list. I know the goal. The goal to get a list. I'll give you 100% commission." Right? And so, he promoted and I think he sold... I don't know, he sold five or six copies of my thing, but then I got the money, and then I gave most of it to him. But then what happened is I got five or six customers, but a bunch of people... I had a pop-up on the site. A bunch of people filled out the pop-up, and I got like 300 or 400 people on my email list. And I was like, "This is awesome." And then I knew Mike had a product, and I was like, "Hey, man." I was like, "Dude, I love..." He had a product called Carbon Copy Marketing back then or something. It was a two-disc DVD set. And this is before DVD, so he literally would go and he would print a DVD and ship it out to you from his house. This is how... 20 years ago. Remember, this is before things like that. And so, he said, "Yeah." So, I emailed my list of like 300 people from him the 400 or 500 people I built, so maybe a thousand from my list. I sent the email and I sold like five or six of his DVDs. And he is like, "Thanks, man." And we did our first little cross-promotion, and me and Mike became friends. And then Mike told me. Then Mike's like, "Dude, you know who you should do? I met this guy named Gary Ambrose. You should meet Gary because Gary has got a list too, and he promoted the same DVDs you just promoted and it was awesome. You should get to know him." So, he introduced me to Gary. Me and Gary met up, and I was like, "Oh." And Gary and I started sharing ideas, and then eventually he promoted my things, I promoted his, and then Gary's like, "Oh, dude, you should meet so and so." And I was like, "Oh, you should meet..." And all of a sudden we started this little four or five people start introducing more and more people, and soon I've got 20 or 30 friends all on Yahoo Messenger and AOL that we're talking back and forth and getting to know each other. Right? And what's interesting is that we all kind of helped promoting each other. Our list went from 400 or 500 people to 1,000 to 1,500, to 1,000 to 2,500, and they kept growing and growing. And I was looking at this little group of people all working together. It was like a groundswell where our businesses all started gradually rising together. What do they say? A rising tide raises all ships, right? That's what started happening. And we started getting bigger and bigger. I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. This is so cool." And then we started doing more things and this is, man, a two or three-year period of time while I was in college, we were going back and doing these things. And it was just... It was really, really cool. Right? And I remember one day Mike had this idea, Mike Filsaime had this idea for a product called Butterfly Marketing. Some of you guys may have heard of it, but it was the first time he had the idea. And he's like, "Hey, man, check out the sales letter." He had this huge sales letter. And on the sales letter, he had these testimonials from all the people. All the people you'd want, right? I was like, "How'd you get all those guys' testimonials?" He's like, "Oh, I didn't. I just put their pictures in just as the placeholders as a dream of someday I'm wanting to get these people's testimonials." I was like, "Oh, that'd be so cool to get to know them." And then he's like, "Well, I met so and so. I know so and so who does know that person," and all of a sudden this network started happening, right? Anyway, Mike went and started messaging and eventually got to the person, one of the people, and they gave him a thing, and all of a sudden he got a bigger promotion from a bigger person. And what happened is, is we started doing this. Again, the people I looked up to were way up here and they wouldn't respond to me and things like that. And this group down here became friends. We all started growing together, and eventually what started happening is as we got bigger and bigger and bigger, we got closer to these people. I remember probably, man, two years, maybe three years into this business I had an idea. And I was creating this whole project. It was a membership site. It was called The Lost Files, and it was based on old public domain books, which I could talk about for six years. But it's this geeky, nerdy thing that you can make money with. And so I got excited, I'm creating this thing, and I was like, "Joe Vitale, he's written like 500 books." I'm like, "Oh, Joe would be my dream person." I know Joe had talked about public domain in the past. Joe had actually published a couple books from the public domain. And I was like, "He'd be my dream partner." But I was like, "He's ignored like 40 emails from me. There's no way he's going to respond to me now." Right? But I was like, "Oh, I got to do something." So, I remember I messaged him again this time and I was like, "Hey, Joe. Sorry to bug you. I have this new site." I explained what my site, thelostfiles.com. Like, "This is what is, how it works," and everything. And then the next day I get email back from Joe, and I was too scared to even open it. I'm like, "This is crazy." And Joe messaged me back. He's like, "Hey, Russell, so good to meet you." He's like, "I've been seeing your name everywhere. All these different people keep promoting your stuff. They keep popping up in my inbox. The Lost Files sounds awesome." The way he made the connection, he didn't... I don't think he... He didn't connect that it was me who was annoying him for like 40 emails prior. He just didn't connect it. Or maybe he just ignored it, or he forgave me, or whatever, but he message back and said, "Yes." And I was like, "Joe Vitale said yes." And I was freaking out. And so he goes and he does this... We had this promotion where we had a teleseminar together. He promoted his list. And then at the teleseminar he promoted The Lost Files, and we signed up like 300 members off his list at like 40 bucks a month, which for a college kid, is insane. And it was this one deal, and then Joe was like, "Oh, by the way, have you ever met so and so, and so and so?" and starts opening these doors again. Now, because I've gotten closer and closer, I got one person in and all of sudden it opened up this whole network of people. And that was my journey for the first three or four years. And so I wanted to kind of lead with that because again, I think so many of you guys are like me where you see the people. I meet people all the time. "Russell, you say to build a Dream 100 list, I've got to dream one, and it's just you." And I'm like, "Not a good strategy." I literally said Dream 100 for a very important reason because it shouldn't be me. I do maybe one promotion a year and usually, it's for Tony Robbins. And so, for me to say yes, it's going to be like... We got to date for a decade before it's going to happen, so if you're banking on that it's going to be a long, long time for something to happen, right? I was like, "Instead, go and do things with people at your own tier, your own level where they're looking for things, and looking for cross-promotions, and things will start happening. And then what happened is you start rising to the top, and all of a sudden people like me are going to start seeing you. You show up my news feed. I start seeing emails." All of a sudden it's like now there's this relationship, right? It's funny. There's... This is a funny story. So, one of my buddies, I met him probably... It's probably been 12 years ago now. Some of you guys know him. He's Chad Wallner. He's a chiropractor. I talk about him in the Dot Com Secrets book. But he moved into our area, and so we go to church. We were going to the same church, and so he shows up and he sees me. And he was seeing me online. He knew I was and stuff. He came to me and he's like, "Russell." He's like, "Dude, this is so... I can't believe you're in my ward. I've seen you before," blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. And he's like, "We actually have a mutual friend together." And I was like, "We do?" He's like, "Yeah." So, he's trying to build a connection so we can connect and stuff. And it was interesting because he said, "We got this mutual friend." And then he told me the name. He's like, "Here's the guy's name." And I was like, "Don't know who he is." He was like, "Oh, weird." He's like, "He talks about you all the time as if you guys were best friends." I was like, "I don't know who that is. I'm so sorry." And years later, Chad and I had this discussion about this and it was funny because he was like, "Man, I..." The realization is it's not who you know, it's who knows you. Right? I knew who Joe Vitale was. I knew who these people... I knew Tony Robbins. So, I wanted them, but it's not that I know them. I need them to know me. Right? So, it's how do you get them to know you? Well, it's by doing cool stuff in the market that they're playing in. Showing up. Will they see you in news feeds, see you in emails, see you in stuff? Where all of a sudden they keep seeing these things and then they see you. They got to know who you are. Right? When you approach them like, "Hey, my name is so and so," if they don't know who you are, it's going to be really hard to build a relationship. If they're like, "Hey, this is so and so," it's easy. For example, I was trying to do a negotiation with someone the other day. I wish I could tell you all the details. I can't though. Anyway, really big company. You'd be aware of who they are. And so, I tried to get a meeting with the founder of it, and we get on a Zoom call like this, and the very first thing he says, he's like, "Man, Russell," he's like, "I see you like 12 times a day. You are everywhere in my news feed. I get emails from you. You must be the best internet marketer on the planet." And I was like, "This is going to be the easiest negotiation in my entire life because he knows exactly who I am." Right? As opposed to me coming to him and trying to explain who I was. Right? And so it's like, as you're doing stuff actively in the marketplace, people will start seeing that and become aware of you. Right? And that's how you start rising to the top. I get people all the time that message me like, "Hey, can I speak at Funnel Hacking Live?" I'm like, "I don't know who you are." Like, "I'm the best speaker. Here's my speaker," blah, blah, blah. I'm like, "I don't know who you are." Right? But check this out. McCall Jones, who I think is on here, or she was on here earlier, right? McCall, she showed up on Funnel Hacking Live. Then she does this thing, and then she starts publishing, and she starts doing everything, and I start seeing her everywhere. I see her energy and her excitement. I see how she's developing things. She's like using things she learned from me, but developing her own things, which was really cool. Because I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. She's a good student and she's doing things." And this whole thing starts happening, and I see her in my feed. I see her all the time. And my friends start talking about her, and then Monica, who's on this as well. Monica messaged me. There's McCall right there. Yeah. What's up? And Monica messaged me, "You know McCall? You got to..." And so, her friends are calling me and telling me to listen and stuff. And soon, I'm watching everything she's doing. And I'm like, "Oh, my gosh, I'm impressed." I start podcasts. How many... Once or twice I talked about you on the podcast before we even met officially. I'm like, "This girl McCall keeps showing up. She's doing these cool things." And on Funnel Hacking Live, I'm like, "Who should speak on Funnel Hacking Live?" I'm like, "There's this girl who's never spoken on stage before. Right? She's never... Doesn't like, 'Here's my speaker reel. I've got a perfect presentation.'" But I'm seeing that. I was like, "She'd be like the perfect person to come on stage and, and speak." And so anyway... Hey, McCall. What's up? McCall Jones: Thank you. Wow, that's so nice. I'm just hyping you up, over here reacting to all of your stuff, so hey. Funnel Hacking Live. Woo hoo! Russell: All right. But conceptually, you guys, it make sense. If you want to get into, they call it the good old boys club. Like, "How do I get in the good old boys club?" It's the way you get into it is you have to infiltrate it. And it starts finding people at your own level and start playing the game, start moving forward, start making noise, start doing stuff, and then people are going to start seeing you and start becoming aware of you. Learn more about your ad choices. 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Russell Brunson:

Hey. What's going on, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Want to welcome you back to The Marking Secrets podcast. I got something special for you guys over the next three episodes. I'm actually on vacation right now, Thanksgiving vacation. My wife and my kids and I are all in Kauai, Hawaii. You might hear them giggling in the background depending on how well this microphone picks up noise. And so, I didn't have a chance to record a podcast for the next couple episodes, but before I left on vacation, I actually had a chance to be part of a really cool summit that my friend, Christopher Voss put on called The ROR Symposium. And he had me as one of his keynote speakers, and he had me talk about just my history, my journey, using relationships, and joint ventures, and things like that. The Dream 100, as I call it, to build my business and everything we've done over the last almost 20 years now.

And so, it was a really special presentation. It was one that I came to with notes, but not PowerPoint slides and things like that. It was more, I just wanted to kind of share from my heart. And if you know Christopher Voss you know he's a very emotional person and he brings that emotion. And apparently, I found out afterwards, all the speakers end up crying. In fact, I did as well during my presentation. So, there's something really special in the middle that you'll find out about. But anyway, I hope you really enjoy these. They're going to help you to learn how to build joint ventures, how to find your Dream 100, how to build better relationships with people, and how to turn that into more business and help you to get your mission out there to change more people's lives.

If you don't know who Christopher Voss is, I recommend following him. He told me that the best site to send you guys to... I said, "Where should I send people to listen who want to go deeper with you and learn more about relationships and how to build businesses using them?" And he said theroruniversity.com would be the best place for you guys to go. So, if you want to go deeper with Chris, go to roruniversity.com, check out what he's got there. And with that said, I'm going to cue the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to hear the first part of my keynote presentation.

As I was kind of thinking through this, I was like, "Man, there's 30-something speakers coming. Everyone's talking about different ways to do this ROR, return on relationship game. And everyone's got different ideas and things, and it got me to back, man, almost 19, 20 years ago now. And so I... If you guys are cool with it, I just want to do some story time and tell you guys my story and some of the things along the journey that I tried, that I... failures, the successes, specifically inside of this relationship, and joint venture partners, and things like that. And hopefully, it'll give you guys some comfort. Because everyone starting different points and sometimes you look at someone like me like, "Oh, well, Russell knows Tony Robbins, and Dan Kennedy," and da, da, da.

But there was a day, 18, 19, 20 years ago where I was a little kid scared out of my mind awkwardly trying to message people pre-Facebook. So, I'm sending emails and trying to... and it was scary, and hard, and so hopefully, it'll give you some faith in wherever you are in your journey. Just like, "Okay, this is right. It's going to be good." It's going to be for some of us, especially the introverts like me, this is going to be something that kind of stretches you and feels uncomfortable sometimes, but then it can become something you really love and enjoy and gives you the ability to change the world at a level you never thought was possible. So, that's kind of my game plan. Then after that, we can open for some Q&A and... or whatever we want to do. Or we can celebrate, have a party, or we can sing Christopher's song and let him have a nap. Hey, whatever we want to do, it'll be fun.

So, looking back, it's funny, because when I got started in this business, I was still in college. So, I had just met my beautiful wife, Colette, who I think we're celebrating our... I think it's our 20th anniversary this summer, which is crazy. So, she's stuck around my chaos for this long and she's... Gosh, she's the best. But we had just gotten married and I was trying to figure out how to support her. I was wrestling and I didn't want to quit wrestling, so I'm like, "How do I wrestle and do all these things at once?" And so, I did what most people do and I went to Google and typed in how to make money. Right? Which, who here has done that at one point in your career? And you go on this rabbit trail, right? Of like, "Whoa, there's a lot of things to do." And everyone's got a different thing, and you start joining email newsletters. You know what those are at first and you start getting these emails from all these people, and then for me, it was like I was reading blogs and then I was joining... They didn't have Facebook groups back then. They had forums.

So, I was joining the Warrior forum and How-To Court forum, and then... Anyway, there's like 20 or 30 different forums. So, all day long I'm reading forums of people, and I'm getting emails, and I'm learning all these things. And it was interesting because I was learning all the different pieces, right? Some people would talk about SEO and that's what they geeked out on. So, I started reading all the SEO articles, and I started learning how to do SEO and backlinking. So, I was like, "Oh, this is how you make money." And then someone else was like, "SEO's stupid. This is how we make money," and they had a whole different strategy. And then someone else had a different strategy, and soon I was just looking at all these shiny objects and I was like, "I don't know which one I'm supposed to do."

How many of you guys ever felt that before? There's like 8,000 things. Like, "Russell said funnel. Someone else said this." Like, "Ah." And so, I was in that as well, and so I was just like... I got in this perpetual learning phase, right? Where I was learning and studying, and learning and studying. Then I started watching what was happening. Right? And I was on all these different email lists, but then it seemed like it was coordinated. Once every couple months, all of a sudden I would get an email from 30 or 40 people who somehow I had got on their email lists and all of them would be talking about the same product at the exact same time. Right? And all of a sudden you're like, "Oh, my gosh. Everyone's talking about this thing." Right?

And I think the first ones I saw there was an old e-book called Google Cash. And it's how people are making money on Google doing Google ads. It was Chris Carpenter's offer, and he had gotten a whole bunch of affiliates. I don't know how at the time, but he had a whole bunch of affiliates all promote at the same time, so my inbox... And I'm at college opening my inbox and there's like 40 emails from people all talking about this book. I'm like, "This is the thing everyone's talking about. It's got to be the secret." I was so excited. And I went and paid this $67 for an e-book, which no one knew what e-books were back then and we were all confused. Literally, I remember messaging the support team and I was... like two weeks later. I'm like, "When's the book going to show up?" And they're like, "It's digital." I'm like, "I don't know what that means." They're like, "It means you download it." And again, 20 years ago, that was like... that was weird. That wasn't a thing that nowadays we all get it. But back then...

And so I download this book, and I'm trying to read it, and I was just like, "I paid $67 for a PDF. My wife's going to kill me when she finds out." But I'm reading it and I'm getting all excited like t's next big thing, and all of a sudden, there's this next promotion and everybody's talking about this next thing. I'm getting all these... like 20, 30 emails. And I was like, "It's got to be this," so I jumped over there, and it's started me on this rabbit trail. And I just remember being confused, and overwhelmed, and all the things a lot of us go through. Right?

And about that time... This was probably the very first ever high-ticket... Not even high-ticket, like $1,00 product. There was this guy, and I didn't know who he was at the time, but again, all of a sudden the emails start flying in my inbox. Right? And they're all for this guy. They say this guy is the godfather of internet marketing and he's retiring. And because of that, he's giving away his entire empire, everything he's built. And he called it the farewell package. Like, "This is my farewell from the internet. I'm done. I'm out. I've made millions of dollars, now I'm leaving." And his name was Mark Joyner.

And I didn't know who Mark was at the time, but I started reading the emails and the stuff, and I was just like, "This is the greatest thing in the world." Right? So, I remember going to the sales page, reading through it ready to try to buy it for 20, or 30 bucks, or whatever, and the price went was $1,000. And I was like, "Oh, I do not have $1,000. I've never had $1,000." My wife was working, supporting at the time, and she was making, I believe $9.50 an hour. So, I mean, it would take her, man, over 100 hours. No, because you got taxes. Probably 200 hours of her working, so that's a lot of time to pay for this $1,000 course.

I remember looking at it and I was like, "Oh, I don't have any money. I'm a broke wrestler." I had just gotten married, therefore, now I'm living off my wife who's making $9.50 an hour as a receptionist where she was working at. And I was like, "There's no way I can do it." And so, I remember not being able to buy it, not being able to buy it, but I kept seeing the emails, and the promotions, and the urgency, and the scarcity, and it eventually got to the point where it was about to sell out. Probably five or six weeks into this whole thing and about to sell out. And they were closing down the cart.

And I remember the night before... This is... Again, for those of you who are newer before there were webinars, there were things called teleseminars where you would pick up the phone, and you would call, and you'd just listen to people talk. And so, I called this teleseminar, and on the teleseminar these guys are talking about the Mark Joyner Farewell Package. And it was just... It was going to be gone the next day and you had to get it. And I remember listening to it and being sick to my stomach and laying in bed that night, and I was like, "I have to do it. This is my thing," and being so stressed out. And finally, the next morning I was still laying in bed. My wife woke up and I was like, "Colette, I know I bought a lot of stupid things that I haven't done anything with any of it yet, but I think this is the one. I think this is the thing."

I remember asking her. I was like, "Can I buy it?" And she said something like... In fact, I talked about it. I wrote it in the Traffic Secrets book, this story, but she's like, "Well, do you think this is the one for you?" I was like, "I think this is the one." She's like, "Okay, then here's our credit card." And we only had like a $500 credit limit I had to call up my bank like, "Can you double our limit to 1,000?" This is how like green we were back then. And we did it, and I bought the course, and I remember I got the course and there was like 15 CDs, all these interviews. And so, I started listening to the CDs, and what was crazy, as Mark was talking, he kept talking over and over and over again, about two concepts.

The first one was the power of your own list. He kept talking about, "You have to have your own email list, and this is how it works, and if you have an email list of 10,000 people, you send an email out to your offer, you can sell a whole bunch of your things." And I started realize, I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. This is literally what's been happening to me. I'm on all these people's email lists. They have a big email list and send an email, and if I buy a $1,000 course, they must have made 500 bucks." And I started putting the pieces together. It's like, "Oh, my gosh. This is how it works." And some of you guys... I'm not going to tell the whole story, but some of you guys have heard my story. After listening to two or three of these CDs I was like, "I need an email list." And I went down that whole journey where I got called a spammer and... Anyway, so that's... Insert that story there. I'm not going to tell that story because it's outside the context of this event.

But I started trying to send email and it didn't work. And I was just like, "This thing Mark is teaching me, I need to have an email list, but everyone's got one, except for me. I don't have a list. It's not fair." And I kept listening to Mark's course, and as he got deeper and deeper in the course, he started talking about this thing called joint ventures. And he was like, "Every time you start a new company or launch a new product, the first thing we do before you buy ads or anything is we go and we have these different partners who all already have email lists."

He's like, "Go with people who already have email lists, and then some of them will promote and send traffic to my thing, and that's how you make money." And I was like... I was just seeing... You know there's those curtain in front of your face, and the curtain's lifted? I saw the Wizard of Oz. I'm like, "This is how it works. You have to have an email list. If you don't have an email list, you find other people with email lists, and they promote your offer, and then the people buy your product, and then you have an email list." And I was like... It all started making sense in my head. I was like, "Okay." And then I did what I'm sure all of you guys did, especially if you've read Traffic Secrets book... And I didn't know what this was called at the time. I didn't have words for it, but it was basically my first Dream 100.

I was like, "Okay. Who's got an email list?" Like, "Mark said people have email lists. We need to find people with email lists," and so that was kind of the next question. And so, I started making my first Dream 100 list. And it was funny because I had this farewell package I bought from Mark Joyner and he had all the people he interviewed. So I said, "Well, this is my Dream 100, all the people Mark interviewed." And so, I don't remember most of the names. I do remember Joe Vitale though. He was one of the names. And some of you guys know Joe Vitale. If you go to mrfire.com, he's written like 400 books. He's awesome. I wrote Joe Vitale down. I started writing other people's names down.

And so, I remember I'm building this Dream 100 list and I was like, "Okay, this is easy. I'm just going to email them all, and then they're going to promote my thing, and I'm going to be rich. This seems really awesome." Right? And I'm sure some of you guys have thought of that before. Hopefully, it's not just me. So, I start emailing Joe Vitale, and I can't remember all the other names. Joe's the one that stuck out in my head. I remember emailing them all and then just waiting like, "Okay, they're going to respond back to me, and then this is going to be this big thing, and I'm going to make a bunch of money." And I think I had my first or second product at the time, so it was like I had a product for them to sell and everything. Sent all the emails out and it was crickets. Not one person wrote back to me. And I was like, "Huh." I was like, "Okay, either this Mark Joyner's full of crap or I need to send another email."

So, being a relentless person, I send another email to all them like, "Hey, Joe Vitale. Did you not get my email? Because I've got this new product and if you promote it, we can split the money 50/50. It's going to be awesome." Right? Like he's for sure... Like, "I'll even give you 60% commission." Maybe I'll blow his mind. Right? So, I tell him this thing, crickets. Nobody responds back to me. And I remember just being like... I was like, "This internet thing doesn't work." So, I remember being frustrated and just not knowing what to do, not believing this JV thing actually worked. Assuming that it's impossible to build an email list and I was stuck in that rut for a while. Probably, I don't know how many, four or five months of this rut of just like, "It didn't work. I tried."

And have you guys done that where you try something somebody told you and then you're like, "Oh"? It reminds me of... Well, never mind. I'm not going to tell that story, but it reminds me of just so many of us do that where we're trying to follow a guru. We try the thing and it doesn't work, and we're like, "Oh, it didn't work." It's like, maybe we just didn't execute it quite correctly.

So, fast forward a little while later there was this internet marketing event. It was Armand Morin. It was called the Big Seminar back then. And it was the seminar in the industry. Kind of like Funnel Hacking Live is nowadays. It was the seminar. And so, I remember saving up some money and we flew out to... And I had made a little bit of money online at this point. Not a lot. I was making, I don't know, maybe 1,000 bucks a month or something. So, I had a little bit of money just so I didn't have to yell... borrow more money from Colette's credit card to go and go to this event.

So, I fly out to this event. It's in Atlanta. I go to the seminar and I remember thinking, "All the speakers on stage, I'm going to get all... That's going to be my next affiliates or my next people I'm going to be partners with." And so, we're seeing all the speakers and they seem bigger than life. They're on stage, and they're talking, and I was just like, "If any of these guys promoted my product, I'd be rich." That's the thing going through my head. Right? And so, I'm seeing them, writing all their names down. I'm like, "I'm going to become partners with them and become friends with them. I'm going to go meet them face-to-face. Maybe that's the secret. If I meet them face-to-face then it'll be easy."

Unfortunately, I'm insanely introverted, and shy, and scared. So, I'm at the event, I see the person walking by. I remember seeing Stephen Pierce. He was the guy at the time. He walked past and I was just like... He walked right past me, and he walked past, and I'm like, "Ah, I blew it. Stupid, Russell. Stupid, Russell. You didn't even talk to him." And I'm sitting there in the hallway and all of a sudden Armand... Actually, I was in the bathroom and Armand walked next to me in the urinal next to me. I'm like, "Armand's right here. What do I do? Do I say something? I can't say in the bathroom. It's so awkward." And he looks over and he is like, "Hey, man. How's it going?" I'm like, "Good." And he is like, "All right," and then walks away and walks out of the bathroom.

I'm like, "Ah, I blew it again. I blew it again." You know? And I'm too scared to talk to any of the speakers, but I'm like... For me, I'm like, "This is the key. This is the key to my freedom is these speakers," and I didn't dare do it. I wimped out every single person. I didn't talk to a single one of them. And then at nights, all the attendees would go to the bar. Now, I'm not a drinker. I've never drank in my life. Most people don't believe me, but I've literally never drank in my entire life. So, I'd go to these bars and I was like, "I don't want people to think I'm drinking," because like I have a thing like that where I want to avoid the appearance of evil at all costs. Right?

So, I remember I'd go to the bar and I was like, "Ah, how do I..." And literally, the bartender was like, "You want something to drink?" I was like, "Can you give me milk?" He was like, "Seriously?" I'm like, "I don't know. Can you?" I was like "Because if it's going to be a Sprite, people going to think it's some fizzy drink." I don't know. I don't even know what drinks are. Like, "It's going to be fizzy something." So, I'm like, "If you give me milk they're going to know that it's not alcohol." Right? So, he's like, "All right." So, the guy gives me a milk. I'm holding this milk at the bar walking around and everyone's like... All these people start coming to me, which is really cool, and they're like, "Are you drinking milk?" I was like, "Yeah." They're like, "Why are drinking milk?" I'm like, "Oh, well, I'm Mormon, so I don't drink." They all kind of laugh at me, but it opened dialogue when they came to me.

And this is... Okay, side note. Interesting for the introvert. Who are the introverts in the room? If you're introvert, I learned something really cool. Nicholas Bailey actually told me this. He dresses weird because he's introverted and he's too scared to go talk to people. He's like, "If I do something weird," he's like, "people come to me and like, 'Oh, nice shirt. Nice glasses. Nice,'" blah, blah, blah, blah. And so, that's what happens. I had this weird thing, and then people came to me. They're like, "Why are you drinking milk in a bar?" And then it started a conversation, and then when I'm in a conversation I can do it. It's the walking up to. Like, "How am I going to go and..." You know what I mean? So scary for me. And so, people started talking to me. We started becoming friends and get to know people, and I'm talking in this group, and it was interesting because everyone I was talking to, they all had businesses just like me, but they weren't the guy on stage with a list of 100,000 people and all this kind of stuff They were here and they had a list of like 500 people. Or I got a list of 1,200 people. They were all kind of at this level. About the same level I was at.

I was like, "Oh, my gosh," and we started talking, getting to know each other. And back then it was before Skype or before... It was pre-Skype. It was pre... What do we use nowadays? Slack or Instant Messenger. Whatever. We used to use Yahoo Messenger, or IRQ, or AOL, and so it always like, "What messenger are you on? Here's my AOL chat," or, "Here's my IRQ." Or ICQ Sorry. ICQ. Or, "Here's my..." And so, they give them to you, and so that was how we get to know people. So, I put it out, write it down, and then I remember the people.

I remember Mike Phillip's name was on Yahoo Messenger. His name was signanddrive.com. And I remember Brad Callen. I remember Brad Fallon. And so, I started meeting all these people at the bar while I'm drinking my milk, and getting to know them, and I'm writing down all their little handles. And then we get home and away from the event, and so I start putting those things in and I start messaging them. I feel way more comfortable talking through text, through Yahoo Messenger. I was like, "Hey, great meeting you at the event," blah, blah, blah. "This is a picture of me so you remember who I was." Right? And the person would write back, "Oh, yeah. It was really cool. You were the guy with the milk, right?" I'm like, "Yeah." And we'd start this dialogue. And then I was like, "Okay..." Not even thinking that these guys would be big partners someday, but I kind of started getting to know these people. And we were all kind of the same level. And this is the key. Okay? I'm trying to tell stories with hopefully principles you guys can pick from it.

So, all these people were at the same level. And I remember because at the same time I was messaging Joe, Vitale, and messaging all the speakers in the event, and none of them are responding to me. It's just like crickets. No one's responding back. I'm talking to these guys. And I remember I was creating an offer and these guys had become my friends. And I was like, "Hey, can you check this out? Do you think this is good? Is the offer good?" And they started messaging back, and all of a sudden they started becoming involved in my business, right? They had a vested interest because they were kind of like, "Oh, I would do this," or, "I'd try this over here. And all of a sudden they started sharing ideas back and forth and it was really cool.

And then they would share with me what they were doing back and forth, and it was really, really cool. And I had vested interest in their projects because I was like, "Oh, you should try this, or, "Oh, I did this. You should try this." We built this little group of people. And I don't even know. It was probably four, five, six people maybe that we kind of did this thing. And I remember because about this time is when my very first software product ever came out, and I don't talk much about this product.

It was a product called ZIP Brander, and I was so proud of it. And I remember I sent it to Mike Filsaime. I was like, "Hey, here's my first software. Check it out." He was like, "Dude, that's so cool. Do you want me to promote it to my list?" And I was like, "Wait, he just asked me." Like never it happened. I was just like, "I've been asking all these people at this level up here, all the people I'm looking up to, the gurus, the big famous people. No one, crickets, and all of a sudden my friend's, like, 'I'll promote it to my list.'" And I was like, "Dude, you serious?" He's like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Okay." And so I give him the link. He sends an email to his list, and I can't remember. I paid him like 50, 60, 70. I don't know. I was like, "You can have all the money. I just want... I need a list. I know the goal. The goal to get a list. I'll give you 100% commission." Right?

And so, he promoted and I think he sold... I don't know, he sold five or six copies of my thing, but then I got the money, and then I gave most of it to him. But then what happened is I got five or six customers, but a bunch of people... I had a pop-up on the site. A bunch of people filled out the pop-up, and I got like 300 or 400 people on my email list. And I was like, "This is awesome." And then I knew Mike had a product, and I was like, "Hey, man." I was like, "Dude, I love..." He had a product called Carbon Copy Marketing back then or something. It was a two-disc DVD set. And this is before DVD, so he literally would go and he would print a DVD and ship it out to you from his house. This is how... 20 years ago. Remember, this is before things like that.

And so, he said, "Yeah." So, I emailed my list of like 300 people from him the 400 or 500 people I built, so maybe a thousand from my list. I sent the email and I sold like five or six of his DVDs. And he is like, "Thanks, man." And we did our first little cross-promotion, and me and Mike became friends. And then Mike told me. Then Mike's like, "Dude, you know who you should do? I met this guy named Gary Ambrose. You should meet Gary because Gary has got a list too, and he promoted the same DVDs you just promoted and it was awesome. You should get to know him." So, he introduced me to Gary. Me and Gary met up, and I was like, "Oh." And Gary and I started sharing ideas, and then eventually he promoted my things, I promoted his, and then Gary's like, "Oh, dude, you should meet so and so." And I was like, "Oh, you should meet..." And all of a sudden we started this little four or five people start introducing more and more people, and soon I've got 20 or 30 friends all on Yahoo Messenger and AOL that we're talking back and forth and getting to know each other. Right?

And what's interesting is that we all kind of helped promoting each other. Our list went from 400 or 500 people to 1,000 to 1,500, to 1,000 to 2,500, and they kept growing and growing. And I was looking at this little group of people all working together. It was like a groundswell where our businesses all started gradually rising together. What do they say? A rising tide raises all ships, right? That's what started happening. And we started getting bigger and bigger. I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. This is so cool." And then we started doing more things and this is, man, a two or three-year period of time while I was in college, we were going back and doing these things. And it was just... It was really, really cool. Right?

And I remember one day Mike had this idea, Mike Filsaime had this idea for a product called Butterfly Marketing. Some of you guys may have heard of it, but it was the first time he had the idea. And he's like, "Hey, man, check out the sales letter." He had this huge sales letter. And on the sales letter, he had these testimonials from all the people. All the people you'd want, right? I was like, "How'd you get all those guys' testimonials?" He's like, "Oh, I didn't. I just put their pictures in just as the placeholders as a dream of someday I'm wanting to get these people's testimonials." I was like, "Oh, that'd be so cool to get to know them." And then he's like, "Well, I met so and so. I know so and so who does know that person," and all of a sudden this network started happening, right?

Anyway, Mike went and started messaging and eventually got to the person, one of the people, and they gave him a thing, and all of a sudden he got a bigger promotion from a bigger person. And what happened is, is we started doing this. Again, the people I looked up to were way up here and they wouldn't respond to me and things like that. And this group down here became friends. We all started growing together, and eventually what started happening is as we got bigger and bigger and bigger, we got closer to these people.

I remember probably, man, two years, maybe three years into this business I had an idea. And I was creating this whole project. It was a membership site. It was called The Lost Files, and it was based on old public domain books, which I could talk about for six years. But it's this geeky, nerdy thing that you can make money with. And so I got excited, I'm creating this thing, and I was like, "Joe Vitale, he's written like 500 books." I'm like, "Oh, Joe would be my dream person."

I know Joe had talked about public domain in the past. Joe had actually published a couple books from the public domain. And I was like, "He'd be my dream partner." But I was like, "He's ignored like 40 emails from me. There's no way he's going to respond to me now." Right? But I was like, "Oh, I got to do something." So, I remember I messaged him again this time and I was like, "Hey, Joe. Sorry to bug you. I have this new site." I explained what my site, thelostfiles.com. Like, "This is what is, how it works," and everything. And then the next day I get email back from Joe, and I was too scared to even open it. I'm like, "This is crazy."

And Joe messaged me back. He's like, "Hey, Russell, so good to meet you." He's like, "I've been seeing your name everywhere. All these different people keep promoting your stuff. They keep popping up in my inbox. The Lost Files sounds awesome." The way he made the connection, he didn't... I don't think he... He didn't connect that it was me who was annoying him for like 40 emails prior. He just didn't connect it. Or maybe he just ignored it, or he forgave me, or whatever, but he message back and said, "Yes." And I was like, "Joe Vitale said yes." And I was freaking out. And so he goes and he does this... We had this promotion where we had a teleseminar together. He promoted his list. And then at the teleseminar he promoted The Lost Files, and we signed up like 300 members off his list at like 40 bucks a month, which for a college kid, is insane.

And it was this one deal, and then Joe was like, "Oh, by the way, have you ever met so and so, and so and so?" and starts opening these doors again. Now, because I've gotten closer and closer, I got one person in and all of sudden it opened up this whole network of people. And that was my journey for the first three or four years. And so I wanted to kind of lead with that because again, I think so many of you guys are like me where you see the people.

I meet people all the time. "Russell, you say to build a Dream 100 list, I've got to dream one, and it's just you." And I'm like, "Not a good strategy." I literally said Dream 100 for a very important reason because it shouldn't be me. I do maybe one promotion a year and usually, it's for Tony Robbins. And so, for me to say yes, it's going to be like... We got to date for a decade before it's going to happen, so if you're banking on that it's going to be a long, long time for something to happen, right?

I was like, "Instead, go and do things with people at your own tier, your own level where they're looking for things, and looking for cross-promotions, and things will start happening. And then what happened is you start rising to the top, and all of a sudden people like me are going to start seeing you. You show up my news feed. I start seeing emails." All of a sudden it's like now there's this relationship, right?

It's funny. There's... This is a funny story. So, one of my buddies, I met him probably... It's probably been 12 years ago now. Some of you guys know him. He's Chad Wallner. He's a chiropractor. I talk about him in the Dot Com Secrets book. But he moved into our area, and so we go to church. We were going to the same church, and so he shows up and he sees me. And he was seeing me online. He knew I was and stuff. He came to me and he's like, "Russell." He's like, "Dude, this is so... I can't believe you're in my ward. I've seen you before," blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. And he's like, "We actually have a mutual friend together." And I was like, "We do?" He's like, "Yeah." So, he's trying to build a connection so we can connect and stuff. And it was interesting because he said, "We got this mutual friend." And then he told me the name. He's like, "Here's the guy's name." And I was like, "Don't know who he is."

He was like, "Oh, weird." He's like, "He talks about you all the time as if you guys were best friends." I was like, "I don't know who that is. I'm so sorry." And years later, Chad and I had this discussion about this and it was funny because he was like, "Man, I..." The realization is it's not who you know, it's who knows you. Right? I knew who Joe Vitale was. I knew who these people... I knew Tony Robbins. So, I wanted them, but it's not that I know them. I need them to know me. Right? So, it's how do you get them to know you?

Well, it's by doing cool stuff in the market that they're playing in. Showing up. Will they see you in news feeds, see you in emails, see you in stuff? Where all of a sudden they keep seeing these things and then they see you. They got to know who you are. Right? When you approach them like, "Hey, my name is so and so," if they don't know who you are, it's going to be really hard to build a relationship. If they're like, "Hey, this is so and so," it's easy.

For example, I was trying to do a negotiation with someone the other day. I wish I could tell you all the details. I can't though. Anyway, really big company. You'd be aware of who they are. And so, I tried to get a meeting with the founder of it, and we get on a Zoom call like this, and the very first thing he says, he's like, "Man, Russell," he's like, "I see you like 12 times a day. You are everywhere in my news feed. I get emails from you. You must be the best internet marketer on the planet."

And I was like, "This is going to be the easiest negotiation in my entire life because he knows exactly who I am." Right? As opposed to me coming to him and trying to explain who I was. Right? And so it's like, as you're doing stuff actively in the marketplace, people will start seeing that and become aware of you. Right? And that's how you start rising to the top.

I get people all the time that message me like, "Hey, can I speak at Funnel Hacking Live?" I'm like, "I don't know who you are." Like, "I'm the best speaker. Here's my speaker," blah, blah, blah. I'm like, "I don't know who you are." Right? But check this out. McCall Jones, who I think is on here, or she was on here earlier, right? McCall, she showed up on Funnel Hacking Live. Then she does this thing, and then she starts publishing, and she starts doing everything, and I start seeing her everywhere. I see her energy and her excitement. I see how she's developing things. She's like using things she learned from me, but developing her own things, which was really cool. Because I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. She's a good student and she's doing things." And this whole thing starts happening, and I see her in my feed. I see her all the time. And my friends start talking about her, and then Monica, who's on this as well. Monica messaged me.

There's McCall right there. Yeah. What's up?

And Monica messaged me, "You know McCall? You got to..." And so, her friends are calling me and telling me to listen and stuff. And soon, I'm watching everything she's doing. And I'm like, "Oh, my gosh, I'm impressed." I start podcasts. How many... Once or twice I talked about you on the podcast before we even met officially. I'm like, "This girl McCall keeps showing up. She's doing these cool things." And on Funnel Hacking Live, I'm like, "Who should speak on Funnel Hacking Live?" I'm like, "There's this girl who's never spoken on stage before. Right? She's never... Doesn't like, 'Here's my speaker reel. I've got a perfect presentation.'" But I'm seeing that. I was like, "She'd be like the perfect person to come on stage and, and speak." And so anyway... Hey, McCall. What's up?

McCall Jones:

Thank you. Wow, that's so nice. I'm just hyping you up, over here reacting to all of your stuff, so hey. Funnel Hacking Live. Woo hoo!

Russell:

All right. But conceptually, you guys, it make sense. If you want to get into, they call it the good old boys club. Like, "How do I get in the good old boys club?" It's the way you get into it is you have to infiltrate it. And it starts finding people at your own level and start playing the game, start moving forward, start making noise, start doing stuff, and then people are going to start seeing you and start becoming aware of you.

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]]> 1886 no Rapid-Fire Q&A With My FunnelHackers! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/rapid-fire-qa-with-my-funnelhackers See if your question got answered live! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everyone. This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I'm back with Josh today. And do I tell them what today's episode is, this is a really fun one? Josh Forti: Yeah. Today guys, we're doing rapid fire. We went to the community. We asked a bunch of different questions and by the way, we have like so many more to go over. So like, hey, just keep coming in, which is awesome. But it's a rapid fire Q and A with Russell to kind of bring out a side of Russell that maybe, maybe we don't get to see as much by asking just a bunch of rapid fire questions. Russell: There's some cool questions there. I think you guys going to enjoy. I think there's something for everybody. So listen, take notes. And next time we ask you for some questions, make sure you submit them maybe you'll get answered live. Josh: And called out. We called out some people. Russell: It's true. Maybe you got called out. You should pay attention. Anyway, thanks Josh. This was a fun episode, with that said, let’s queue up the theme song and we'll get right back with some Q and As. Josh: All right. So this one I want to do a little bit different, kind of phase three here as we go through this is I went and ask community bunch of different questions and there's so many different ones. I've got screenshots on screenshots on screenshots of, on Facebook, on Instagram and kind of things like that. And so I thought it would be cool to go through and do a rapid fire style where we hit you with a bunch of different questions. And there's a lot of similarities, like underlying actual questions at what it is. But a lot of it is people they want to understand your thought process. They want to understand how you run certain things or how you do certain things or whatever. And so what I thought would be cool is I have enough questions to where we could literally do one a minute for the next couple hours. So take as much time as you want or need to go through this. But I think if we just went through and did like a rapid fire of like, all right, start here and then go through and do this, I think that'd be super beneficial. And I think it'd be a unique creative thing that we could try and see how people like it, sound good? Russell: That'd be fun. Let's do it. Josh: All right. So the first question is, and I think this kind of... It's interesting, I think this ties into both of our previous topics that we covered and talked about, whether it be podcasting and finding your voice there or funnels and figuring that all out is like... The question got asked probably three or four different times, some variation of like, what do you do when you don't know what you want to do yet, like when you haven't found that voice? And you're like, because I think... For me, it's interesting. I actually found my voice before I found my product, right? And I think a lot of people figure out what they are going to sell before they find their voice. And so for me it was a little bit easier because I had all these followers before I was ever selling anything and I was super broke and then I found dotcom secrets and it was like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." I literally went from making like $25,000 a year to like $250,000 a year and like one year. It was amazing because I just added it too. But a lot of people, they really struggle with like, "Okay, cool, I get all these things conceptually. I know I need a funnel and I know I need a value ad. I know I need a community and a following and raving fans. And I get all the things, but I don't know mine yet. I don't know the thing. And so when you're doing that, like what's the thing that you do or what advice would you give people to fix that problem of, or what things should they be focused on when they haven't found their voice yet? Russell: I'd say there's two directions on this, and both of them are correct. It's just depends on who you are. Number one, if you are a visionary, if you do the DISC profile, and you're a high I, you want to be the person that's there; the biggest key is not to wait. If I would've waited four click funnels and funnels, I never would've got here. I just started creating stuff that was bad like potato guns, zip brander, or forum fortunes. All these things that didn't work or I made very little money. No one's ever heard of, but I did 150 funnels before I was ever like, "I'm the funnel guy. I'm going to fun... I go on teach..." I started getting into funnels and then we built funnel software, but it was man 14 years and 150 funnels before I figure that out. But if I wouldn't have been in motion, I never would've found that. So if you are a creator and you know that's your calling, just start moving forward and find out what you're passionate about. If I was starting today, I would be into bio hacking, I'd be into nutrition. I'd be into those are the things I'm really geeking out about now in my life. So I'd be running that direction. I don't know what the opportunity's going to be, but I'm going to do something or I'm going to nothing… And then eventually I feel like God, as we start moving in a direction, like conscious I'm moving this direction, trying to figure this out; He will give us little ideas. He'll give us impressions and ideas. And He's trying to see like, "If I give Russell's idea, is he going to be good steward to this idea or not? And if I take it and I implement it, He's like, oh, he's a good steward of little thing, let me give him some more. Let me give him some more." And then 14 years later, He is like, "Okay, now I know he's worthy of this. Let me give him the big idea." But He's checking it. And if you get the idea, you're like, "Oh, I'm scared. I get fearful, whatever." And you don't do it, He's not going to give you the next one. He's like, "Oh, he's not a good steward of ideas." And He gives idea to somebody else. It's why, how many times you are like, "I had an idea for that, but so, and so did this." Because you weren’t a good steward of the idea when it showed up. So that's the one thing it's like moving forward. The second thing is that some of you guys, you're not the visionary person and that's okay. There's 450 people who work at ClickFunnels who aren't the visionary person. And if it wasn't for all of them, I'd be screwed. There are people that are my number twos that are my psychics that are helping me support it and they can buy into my vision. In fact, I remember Leon who designs all my slides for me. He's one of the most amazing people in the world. And he was out here in Boise one day and he's a quiet guy, just more reserved and he's got to leave for the airport. And he pulled me aside, he said, "I want to talk to you real quick." And I was like, "Yeah, what's going on?" And he said, he's like, "I've decided that my mission in life is to help you to get your word out to the world." I got chills and I was like, "Oh my gosh. Thank you." It was such a cool thing. And I was like... And I got it. He's got this skillset. He's not going to be on stage doing the things and doing podcasts and stuff, man, without him, I couldn't do what I'm doing. So being a supporting role is huge. So find a vision you do believe in. If you're like... I think Dave Asprey in the bio... and the bulletproof movement is the thing, go get a job from them, go work for them, go work for free, whatever. It's like, go figure out how you can be close to that person and help bolster. It's like, I'm hoping that everyone believes in something. Figure out something you believe in, you're passionate about and go be a supporter of that. Your vision is not to be something you created. It's just something you're supporting and you're helping to move forward. And so that'd be my two advice, depending on which side you fall on. If you're not sure, just start running. Josh: Love it. Russell: See what happens. Josh: Love it. That's awesome. And I think that's really, really cool. My current assistant, I've cycled through a couple of assistants now and I finally have one and she's amazing. And she's just like, "I came into your company thinking that this is what you needed." And I was like, "Yeah, because that's what I told you I needed. But I had no idea what I needed." And she's like, "What you actually needed is this." And I'm like- Russell: "I need you to tell me what I need." Josh: ... right. I was like, "Are you going to leave me now?" She's like, "No, I believe in you. And I believe in your vision. I know what you're trying to accomplish. You didn't realize this is what you needed but I believe in you." And I'm like, "Huh, that is a relief." If you can find that person, that's lucky. Next thing kind of goes along with this another rapid fire one is, as you're going through and you are figuring out all these different things and testing through your things, how do you make it to where you're not confusing your audience and to where they don't feel you're just a mess, that's everything is everywhere? You're trying all these different things. You're throwing things at the wall. Is that just something that people are just going to leave and just be upset just because, or is that like, is there ways to minimize that and communicate to your community that you don't know what you're doing, but that this is the vision. This is what we're going. I'm just trying a bunch of different things. Is there a way to do that well? Russell: Yeah. I think a couple things, number one is understanding that until you really dial that in, it's going to be hard to get a huge following anyway. Like the other day I was searching my name with someone else's name that I did a deal with 20 years ago and it pulled up the Google results and there was like, "Oh, I was so embarrassed." Anyway, it was bad. But guess what? Those people are all gone now. They left. They're are not even aware what happened. They don't know who I am. Most people are like, "Russell I've been following you since the beginning. Ever since you guys launched Funnel Hacking Live." I was like, "Oh, I was in business 15 years before the first Funnel Hacking Live." "I followed you all the way back from Micro Continuity." I was like, "That was a long time ago, I was in business nine years before Micro Continuity." Most people... Just understanding the people are going to be... When you figure out the thing, it's going to be a whole new group of people. And so it's not stressing too much about that, but at the same time, it's like, it's helping people understand like, I'm experimenting. I call it marketing experiments or like I used to call mine dotcom secrets labs before I wrote the book and anything it's like, I'm practicing these principles. So I would like study SEO and talk about like, "Oh." And I'd sell SEO courses for other people because I’m learning from this person to understand SEO. I'm over here and I'm in a laboratory testing these things out. This is what I'm actually doing. And there's a lot of value in that because you're becoming in proxy the person and sometimes you can cut through stuff that's working and not working, you can get direct access to people that they can. So just helping them understand like, my end goal is I want to be... Again, if I was going to bio hacking world right now, my end goal is I want to be healthier. So for example, this is my live mushroom GTS root beer. It's literally my favorite thing. I get twice a day. It's from Whole Foods. It's got Reishi, Chaga, and Turkey Tail. The actual fruiting bodies of the mushrooms in here blended into this root beer. It tastes like root beer my grandma used to make, I love it. I'm obsessed with it. So I could be like, "This thing's amazing. I'm excited about it. And this is why, and this is why I did the study and this is why I'm doing it." I could probably sell a crap ton of these right now. And then I could find out something else like Anthony DiClementi, he's got this thing. And I'm like, "I can be excited. I'm testing it. I bought his newsletter. I bought his membership site." And so it's just like you as the, I'm like a reporter, who's testing these things out in the beginning until you figure out what your thing is and you can really dial it. Maybe I become the mushroom dude who sells mushroom root beer. I don't know, but anyway. Josh: Please stick with funnels. We need you in that lane more. Is it good? All right. Cool. Next question we got here is, do you ever struggle with scarcity and being in scarcity mode even after you've made... Had all the success and as much money as you you've made, do you still struggle with being in scarcity mode or have you evolved past that? Russell: I don't struggle with scarcity. I have a lot of my own issues for sure. And it's funny because every time someone launches the next click funnels killer, it annoys me. But then I'm like, "You know what? First off they're not going to... I'm willing to outwork all of them and so I'm not worried that way." Number two, competition drives me, which is really, really good. And number three, actually, Annie Grace messaged me this a little while ago. She was talking about her business and all these people who were competing and she felt they were leading her people astray. And I was like, "I get that." And I said, "The thing that's most comforting to me is actually a Bible scripture where Jesus Christ said, my sheep will hear my voice and they'll follow me." That's not direct translation, but basically that's just like, my sheep will hear my voice. And I believe that's something that was true for him. But I think it's true for all of us. It's a universal principle. And so what I understand is like, I'm going to go out there. I'm going to be Russell. The best Russell I can be. And a lot of people are not going to follow me. They're going to understand that person better or whatever. Like some other product better, but my sheep are going to hear my voice and they're going to follow me. I'm going to attract the right people and they're going to come to Funnel Hacking Live, and they're going to use my platform. They're going to be exciting. And those are the people I've been called to serve. I am not called to serve the people who are going to go and go somewhere else. Or they don't resonate my message or with me or whatever. And I got to be okay with that because my sheep will hear my voice. And that's my belief that helps me to not be scared of scarcity, because I don't want those people anyway. I want my sheep to follow me and I'm going to help them. I'm going to serve them. Because that's what I've been called to serve. Josh: That's awesome. That's super cool. All right, next one here is actually from Parker Woodward, shout out Parker. Russell: Yeah, Parker. Josh: He says, "How do you know what positions to put members of your team in so they personally thrive?" Russell: Man, I cannot tell you, just you know Parker, this is a constant thing. So if you read the book Good To Great, one thing he talks about is like finding the right people and then putting them on the right seats on the bus. And those are two different activities. And sometimes you nail it. You're like, "Got the right person. They're on the right seat on the bus. And it's awesome." So many times in my company, I find someone who's amazing and we put them in a thing and it's like, "Oh, they don't fit there." And you move around four or five times like, "This person sucks at their job. They're horrible." And it's not actually true. It's horrible. The problem is you have the right person in the wrong seat on the bus. You get them the right seat and then they thrive. And so it's understanding that and really defining it of like, "What are the seats initially?" Because I think that's... You had this with your system. I don't really know what the seat is. I just know I need help. And I'm drowning, what that is, right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: You or someone around you understands like, this is where I'm hurting, this is what I'm struggling and they can define the seat, then it’s easy to find the right person, or you find somebody like knows the right person. And then having them like working with them, being okay like, "We may have to try a couple seats so we figure out, I know you're the right cultural fit. I know you're the right person, the right work ethic." But I don't know what the skillset is yet. Maybe they don't know yet either. And as soon as you're able to figure out what their unique ability is, then you put in the right spot and then they can thrive. And so it's a two step process. Josh: Interesting. All right. This one's from Braden. He says, "What are the biggest beliefs fundamentally that you had to shift early on in your life or career that you believe are required to get to $100 million and beyond?" Russell: It's funny you think it's like belief that some marketing principles. So I found out every tier, so me to get to a million dollars, I was trying to get a million dollars in the calendar year. It took me three years in row. I missed it by like 20 grand, three years in a row, I couldn't do it. And it was totally like a mental block. I didn't believe that I could do it for some reason. And after I did the first time it was like, "Oh." Then it was easy. And then 10 million was my next mental block. I missed it first year, second year we got, and then... So it's there's these mental blocks where I don't know if it's we don't believe in ourselves. We don't believe in, that we're worth. I don't know if it's, we don't believe worthy of it or we have the abilities of it, whatever. But the first thing is you got to believe in yourself. And that just comes with a lot of you doing things. Again, it comes back... We talked about earlier, like God gives you an idea. You're going to be a good steward of this idea. And the more often you take an idea and you run with it. Even if you fail, the more times you do that, the more you start trusting yourself. And that's a big part of it. Right now I can walk into a room where there's like, things are on fire and there's pure chaos, I have no idea what I'm going to go into it. I walk in knowing that the right idea's going to show up and I need it because I've done it so many times over and over and over and over and over again. I just know that it's going to happen. And I have belief in myself. That's the first thing. I honestly believe that the second thing, this comes back to the spiritual side of things, is that there's a purpose behind it. I struggled growing ClickFunnels because I thought that it was for Russell and Todd and our friends to make money. I thought that's what the business was, for probably the first three or four years. And it wasn't until I hired this coach who helped me see the connection between things. And she's just... Because I was always like, there's business and there's spiritual things. And God doesn't care right with my business because whatever. And she helped me bridge the gap. Like, "Do you see what's actually happening because this business..." She see people's lives are changed. All these kind of things. And she was the first person who said, "This is literally a calling that God gave you to do this." And as soon as I heard that and I felt it and I believed it, it changed everything for me. I was like, "This isn't just something Russell does as a hobby on the side to keep me busy till I die, this is what I was made for." I was made to do this, to inspire entrepreneurs, to change the world because each entrepreneur can do that. And when I heard that and I believed it, then it changed everything. It gave me permission like, "Okay, well then it's all my donkey Kong. I'm going to publish. I'm going to create, I'm going to write books. I'm going to do software. I'm going to do things." Because it wasn't just like money for money's sake. It was because this is the mission. This is the calling. I need to do it. And so it changed everything for me. So I think for you guys, that'd be the next thing is like, you got to be connected. Is this actually what God wants me doing? And if you believe that, you believe it's not just some side hobby, man it gives you the feel you need to grow row because now it's bigger than just you making money. Making money is so uninspiring. Changing the world because you were called to, at least, for me changed everything. Josh: That's super, super interesting. And so obviously, I've worked with Katie Richardson and tremendous mindset shifting things in there. And one of the things that I've learned just about mindset, what you said there is your brain, by default just runs. And so it will run with whatever program... Like 90% of your life is basically autopilot. You don't even realize that you're making the decision that you're making. So it's like, whatever program is there, that's how your life operates. And how you change that is not by changing this or all these different things, it's by literally reprogramming is changing belief. And so if you could actually just shift the belief, that's actually shifting the program. And so I think, for me, when I first got started in entrepreneurship, it was how do I hustle my way to success? It was freaking. I was at Gary Vaynerchuk working 18 hours a day. Let's go. And so I was like, "That's what I'm going to do." And it was like, Katie came in and was like, "Cool. That's the belief that you have and it's only going to get you so far." And then once you can replace that belief, that it's like, "Oh, you don't have to do that anymore, this is the way to do it." It was a real identity crisis. It was like, "But wait, no, I'm a hustler. I'm up to 4:00 in the morning, every single morning. You can't take that away from me." But then once the belief shifted, then it was like, "Oh, everything else in life shifted." It was like, "Okay, cool. Now I operate this way." And so that's super, super interesting that you say that because I feel like- Russell: If you look at like what I believe my only role is inside of ClickFunnels literally is for me to stand on stage, to write books, do podcasts, everything so I can get our customers to believe this will work for them. That's it. I know it works for them. But if I get them the tool and they don't believe this is going to work for them, it will not work for them. I get them to believe this works. I'm the head belief, cheerleader. That's all I'm actually doing is trying to take my... Whoever has the most certainty, any circumstance, any situation always wins. So when I come into something, I've got to come with more certainty than them and I've got to prove them I believe it can work and it can work for them. And if I can get them to believe it, then it'll happen. But that's the hardest thing is just the mental thing inside people's head. As soon as they believe it, you see it, because it's like, "Oh, they're struggling, struggling." And all of a sudden something happens, and I believe it'll work for them and holy cow, next thing they know they're Two Comma Club. It's weird. Because it makes sense. You're like, "No, it's just a process." Like, "No, it's a process, but your belief is your fuel and how you attack this thing one way or the other, 100% depends on if you believe is going to work." If I believe that if I write a book, a million people are going to buy it, I can go write a book. If I'm like, "I don't think anyone's going to buy it. What if they don't like it? What if..." I'll spend 25 years writing this book, it's never going to get done. The belief is everything. Josh: ... yeah. Garrett White talks about that with Warrior Way. He's like, "We tell people this isn't the only way, this is A way." And I was talking with my students the other day, I was like, "Hey guys, how many different ways are there to grow your business?" And they're like, "I don't know, thousands of them." I'm like, "Sweet, what's the way you grow their business?" And they're like, "Funnels." Like without even thinking about it. And it was like, "See what Russell did there." He convinced me… Russell: And that took me seven years of preaching consistently to get the market and get people to believe that. But it wasn't that… yeah. It's interesting. Josh: All right. The next question here, and this comes up... I mean this probably came up probably more than anything outside of funnels was how do you manage the relationship with your family and the balance between work and family? Because this is something I think a lot of people struggle with. I didn't even realize that this was a thing until I got married and then I got married and I was like, "Oh, I'm experiencing a little bit of this." And I'm like, I can't imagine like then kids and then being around. So how do you balance your work and your family and overwhelm and burn out and like... I mean there's limited amounts and it seems you can do everything Russell, like cause you’re everything over there. So how do you balance that with your family and the work life balance of that? Russell: That's a great question. I get asked that a lot, which is interesting. I think a lot of people... Well I think the big problem is most people who are doing what I do, they have... The area of life they’re the entrepreneur, they're killing it, and then the rest of their life's a wreck. Or they just don't talk about the rest of life. No one knows. And so anyway, a couple things is number one, Charfen had us do like a time study before. You ever heard of that before? Josh: Yeah. They were the worst. I hate them so much. Russell: So annoying. Yeah I did it for like three minutes, I was like, "I want to die." But you basically sit down and you start every 15 minutes, you're like, write down what you're doing during the day and really quick you realize, "Oh I'm only actually working two hours a day." And I think the average employee, I think is in two hours and eight hour days is actual productive work, the rest is… Josh: Yeah, something like that. It's super low. Russell: So the first thing is just by default, this is comes from me being a wrestler, right? As a wrestler, we have two hour practice. We got the limited time and I wanted to be the best. So I had to cram as much actual stuff in those small windows as humanly possible. And you know when you're an entrepreneur, you're going on a trip and it's like, "My plane leaves at 2:00, but I got an hour and a half to work." In the hour and a half, you'll get more done than an entire day typically. And so I trick my mind that all the time. So if you look at like a typical eight hour day, like I'm coming in from usually from 9:30, till 5:00, it's like my window that I'm here at the office. When I'm here, I'm super present. But what I do in that window of time is what most people do in a week. Because I don't... People always ask me, "Hey Russell, can I take you to lunch?" I'm like, "You have the luxury of lunch. I've not eaten lunch in, I don't know, decade and a half, I'm working. I quit Uber eats. I keep working. It shows up, I'm eating it. And I keep going." I don't waste time for that crap. I'm in the zone and I'm working and I'm not doodling and texting in a million different things. When I'm doing something, I'm doing the thing. I was up this morning from 5:30, till 7:00, I was writing copy for the new offer. And like, that's what I did by myself. Cranked it out. Seven o'clock, boom, I hear Nora talking, hear the kids getting up. And then I break my presence at the thing and I leave and from 7:00 to like 8:30 ish, I'm a dad. And so I take high school kids in school. I come back and I pick up Nora and I play with her a little bit. And then I get her fed and then Collette's getting her dressed and stuff and I go wake up Aiden and then me and Aiden are hanging out. We're talking about the day. And then Collette takes Ellie to school. Aiden's there. I get in the shower. I get dressed. And by nine o'clock I'm ready to go. And I jump in my car. I come here and then boom, I'm in Russell, like I'm entrepreneur mode and from 9:30 ish till 5;00 I'm here. I'm cranking. My days blocked out. I know everything I got to do during the day. I got a to-do list. I got schedule. Everything's blocked out. I knew from 9:00 to 10:30, me and you were here and I'm present. I'm not looking at 1000... We're here doing the thing, it's going to be done. And then at 10:30, I know exactly what I'm doing. As soon as we're done, I'm not sitting around for 30 minutes, like what should I do next. I know what's going to be happening and I'm going, I'm doing the thing. And so my days are like that. So boom, boom, boom, by the time I get to the end of the day, it's like, "Oh, I got a lot of done today. This is amazing." And then I go home. And when I walk through the door from my car in the garage to the door, I send... Before I walk to the door I stop. And I'm like, "Okay, I got to literally stop for a second." I'm like, I'm getting dad mode. I'm getting husband mode. And I get done and I walk through the door and I'm now a dad and husband. I'm not an entrepreneur. And I go, literally go to every one of my kids in the house. My love language is physical touch. I go give each a hug. I go give my wife a hug. And then I'm there. And from that time I'm dad till 9:00 and then from 9:00 to 11:00 I'm husband and 11 o'clock I'm in bed waiting for the next day. And so it's just, I'm really good at chunking time. And I'm not perfect. Some days I'll get depressed or I'll get tired or burned out or whatever, and I don't hit it. But for the most part, I would say I'm pretty consistent in getting a lot of stuff done in the windows that I got. Josh: That's super, super interesting. Being present and being present at work, being present at home, that balance that once again, something Katie talked about a lot is just like, be fully present with where you are and then set boundaries. Having those clear for that Russell: You ask my wife too, I'm not perfect at it, but I try to let things bleed from thing to thing. I try that when I walk through the garage door at night that I'm done with work and I'm home and then, you know what I mean? Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I think that's what most people don't do is like, it all just mushes together where they're doing everything. So everything becomes done inefficiently. I was listening to Dan Kennedy actually yesterday. He's like, "Would you hire a doctor who is going to do surgery on you, and while he's doing surgery, he's watching YouTube video and he's eating something on the side?" He's like, "No, you want presence if you're going to hire someone." Same thing, if you want to build a funnel, you need your designer and everyone who's doing this to have laser focus. You don't want them doing these other things because you need their full attention and presence. Josh: That's awesome. This one's from Paul Vanblum He says, and I'm going to paraphrase this here because... But how do you modify your behavior? Which is, like maybe you've got this thing that you... I don't know, scroll Facebook too much and you just can't seem to quit. I'm sure that's not a problem for you, but how do you go through it actually change or modify behavior? Because it sounds like a lot of your life is routine. Is that true? You figure out the process that works and then you go until it needs to change. And then it's just you pick the next process. So how do you go through and modify behavior that you want to be able to change? Russell: That's a big section of the new book that's coming out someday in the future. So this is a reality is that the shorter versions if we're running close on time is understanding that we do things that meet our needs. And so we had to figure out, how are our needs being met? Talked about this at Funnel Hacking Live a little bit with Tony Robbins, Six Human Needs, right? Like if any... I wish I could geek out on this for like two hours. Maybe this would be the first topic for next time we do this. Josh: Yeah. I was going to say maybe we do that. Russell: That'd be fun. But there's six human needs and there's four needs of the body. And anytime three of the four needs of the body are met, it creates a physical addiction inside you. So if you're scrolling Facebook all day long, it's because it's meeting a need. Like you're getting certainty from it. You're getting significance from it. And you're probably getting love and connection from it. So three of your four needs are being met... And variety, all four of your needs are being met by scrolling Facebook. So it's creating a physical addiction. So for you to break that physical addiction, it's not going to be easy unless you replace it with another physical addiction that you enjoy more. So it's like I have to replacing that. I can't just just willpower it out and got this thing out and be gone. It's like, I'm trying to get my needs met somewhere. And so they're getting met there, I'm good. So I need to get met somewhere else to replace it. It's a lot of people get their needs met by eating. And so they keep eating, eating, and they want to lose weight and they can't lose weight because all their needs are met there. And so until they replace those needs somewhere else, they're going to keep defaulting to that. Again, we can geek on that for a long time, but that's the core root of it. Is it fulfills your need until you get those needs met somewhere else you're going to keep falling back to it over and over and over again. Josh: All right. Last two, super rapid fire questions. Number one. What is the top, the number one or... I'll give you top three, because number one's impossible. Top three books outside of your own that someone must read? Outside of your own because duh obviously is DotcomSecrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets. Thinking bio... Russell: Oh, depends on which area of your life looking at. I just bought... I spent a... not a small, a pretty big fortune buying the Napoleon Hill thing. So I'm in the middle of this Napoleon Hill like Deep Dive. Can I give you my three best Napoleon Hill books because that’s all I got right now. Josh: There you go. All right, modify the question, three best Napoleon Hill books? Russell: Everything else seems like a distraction. So for me Outwitting the Devil is the best thing he's ever written. It is insanely good and very, very practical. Think and Grow Rich, I've been revisiting and like, oh, it's so good. And then the Laws of Success is not a book. It's a book series, which I now own. Oh my gosh. I don't know if I've even told you this yet. I think I showed you a quick picture, but- Josh: You showed me a video, yeah. Russell: ... The Laws of Success was published in 1928. I have his version that he wrote in 1925 before he sent it to the editors or publishers, first edition signed that he printed at a schoolhouse here in my possession. It's insane. Josh: I can't wait to visit your library bro. Oh my gosh. It's crazy. Russell: But those are the three. I would start with Outwitting the Devil because I'll make you fall in love with Napoleon Hill, then go Think and Grow Rich. And if you love that, then go into Laws of Success' it's like a longer form version of stuff, but it's... Ah, he's my favorite right now. Josh: All right, last question for you. And we all know the answer to this, but I thought it was a great last question to end on just to make sure in business, in marketing, in success for all of success, what's the number one skillset that someone must learn? Russell: Oh, persuasion. Josh: Persuasion. Russell: It's learning how to tell a story in a way that gets people to move. Because everything else, like I can outsource all the rest of it. But like I said, we're talking about creating the offer for the Magnetic Marketing. It's the story, the persuasion, the thing that's going to get people to move. And that... Because that weaves into your funnel, weaves into your email, like weaves into how you get your team to move. How you get your community. All the stuff comes down to that skillset of learning how to persuade people. Josh: Awesome. Well, Russell, I think that wraps it up. We'll see what the audience says. But that is a fun run. Russell: That was really fun, man. I appreciate that. This has been a good day. I woke up this morning working, have a ton of energy. This has been a lot of fun energy. I appreciate you appreciate it. And if you guys like these episodes like this, let us know and we'll do it again. This was kind of a test drive to see if you enjoyed it. Josh: Yeah, you got to let us know guys. Russell: And I had a lot of fun. So hopefully you did too. Josh: Was this was super fun. Yeah, man, for sure. It was good chatting with you and everybody go buy Russell stuff and ClickFunnels and all the things because it'll make you tons and tons of money and that's it. That's just the end of it. Russell: That’s the real reason we did this… I wanted you to pitch the stuff so I didn't have to awkwardly tell people to buy it. Thank you so much. Josh: Okay. Everybody go buy stuff right now. It is amazing. That's my pitch. The first thing you're going to get is you're going to get a change of belief. The second thing you're going to get is you're going to get, I don't know what it is, a step by step process of the marketing bible. The third thing you're going to get is increase the status because Russell will like you. Boom there's my pitch. Russell: Boom. What more do you want in life? Come on now. Josh: Yeah, you can't imagine. All right, Russell. Thank you so much, man. I appreciate your time and we'll talk to you soon. Russell: Awesome. Thank you too. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Rapid-Fire Q&A With My FunnelHackers! full 469 Russell Brunson | YAP Media See if your question got answered live! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everyone. This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I'm back... See if your question got answered live! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everyone. This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I'm back with Josh today. And do I tell them what today's episode is, this is a really fun one? Josh Forti: Yeah. Today guys, we're doing rapid fire. We went to the community. We asked a bunch of different questions and by the way, we have like so many more to go over. So like, hey, just keep coming in, which is awesome. But it's a rapid fire Q and A with Russell to kind of bring out a side of Russell that maybe, maybe we don't get to see as much by asking just a bunch of rapid fire questions. Russell: There's some cool questions there. I think you guys going to enjoy. I think there's something for everybody. So listen, take notes. And next time we ask you for some questions, make sure you submit them maybe you'll get answered live. Josh: And called out. We called out some people. Russell: It's true. Maybe you got called out. You should pay attention. Anyway, thanks Josh. This was a fun episode, with that said, let’s queue up the theme song and we'll get right back with some Q and As. Josh: All right. So this one I want to do a little bit different, kind of phase three here as we go through this is I went and ask community bunch of different questions and there's so many different ones. I've got screenshots on screenshots on screenshots of, on Facebook, on Instagram and kind of things like that. And so I thought it would be cool to go through and do a rapid fire style where we hit you with a bunch of different questions. And there's a lot of similarities, like underlying actual questions at what it is. But a lot of it is people they want to understand your thought process. They want to understand how you run certain things or how you do certain things or whatever. And so what I thought would be cool is I have enough questions to where we could literally do one a minute for the next couple hours. So take as much time as you want or need to go through this. But I think if we just went through and did like a rapid fire of like, all right, start here and then go through and do this, I think that'd be super beneficial. And I think it'd be a unique creative thing that we could try and see how people like it, sound good? Russell: That'd be fun. Let's do it. Josh: All right. So the first question is, and I think this kind of... It's interesting, I think this ties into both of our previous topics that we covered and talked about, whether it be podcasting and finding your voice there or funnels and figuring that all out is like... The question got asked probably three or four different times, some variation of like, what do you do when you don't know what you want to do yet, like when you haven't found that voice? And you're like, because I think... For me, it's interesting. I actually found my voice before I found my product, right? And I think a lot of people figure out what they are going to sell before they find their voice. And so for me it was a little bit easier because I had all these followers before I was ever selling anything and I was super broke and then I found dotcom secrets and it was like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." I literally went from making like $25,000 a year to like $250,000 a year and like one year. It was amazing because I just added it too. But a lot of people, they really struggle with like, "Okay, cool, I get all these things conceptually. I know I need a funnel and I know I need a value ad. I know I need a community and a following and raving fans. And I get all the things, but I don't know mine yet. I don't know the thing. And so when you're doing that, like what's the thing that you do or what advice would you give people to fix that problem of, or what things should they be focused on when they haven't found their voice yet? Russell: I'd say there's two directions on this, and both of them are correct. It's just depends on who you are. Number one, if you are a visionary, if you do the DISC profile, and you're a high I, you want to be the person that's there; the biggest key is not to wait. If I would've waited four click funnels and funnels, I never would've got here. I just started creating stuff that was bad like potato guns, zip brander, or forum fortunes. All these things that didn't work or I made very little money. No one's ever heard of, but I did 150 funnels before I was ever like, "I'm the funnel guy. I'm going to fun... I go on teach..." I started getting into funnels and then we built funnel software, but it was man 14 years and 150 funnels before I figure that out. But if I wouldn't have been in motion, I never would've found that. So if you are a creator and you know that's your calling, just start moving forward and find out what you're passionate about. If I was starting today, I would be into bio hacking, I'd be into nutrition. I'd be into those are the things I'm really geeking out about now in my life. So I'd be running that direction. I don't know what the opportunity's going to be, but I'm going to do something or I'm going to nothing… And then eventually I feel like God, as we start moving in a direction, like conscious I'm moving this direction, trying to figure this out; He will give us little ideas. He'll give us impressions and ideas. And He's trying to see like, "If I give Russell's idea, is he going to be good steward to this idea or not? And if I take it and I implement it, He's like, oh, he's a good steward of little thing, let me give him some more. Let me give him some more." And then 14 years later, He is like, "Okay, now I know he's worthy of this. Let me give him the big idea." But He's checking it. And if you get the idea, you're like, "Oh, I'm scared. I get fearful, whatever." And you don't do it, He's not going to give you the next one. He's like, "Oh, he's not a good steward of ideas." And He gives idea to somebody else. It's why, how many times you are like, "I had an idea for that, but so, and so did this." Because you weren’t a good steward of the idea when it showed up. So that's the one thing it's like moving forward. The second thing is that some of you guys, you're not the visionary person and that's okay. There's 450 people who work at ClickFunnels who aren't the visionary person. And if it wasn't for all of them, I'd be screwed. There are people that are my number twos that are my psychics that are helping me support it and they can buy into my vision. In fact, I remember Leon who designs all my slides for me. He's one of the most amazing people in the world. And he was out here in Boise one day and he's a quiet guy, just more reserved and he's got to leave for the airport. And he pulled me aside, he said, "I want to talk to you real quick." And I was like, "Yeah, what's going on?" And he said, he's like, "I've decided that my mission in life is to help you to get your word out to the world." I got chills and I was like, "Oh my gosh. Thank you." It was such a cool thing. And I was like... And I got it. He's got this skillset. He's not going to be on stage doing the things and doing podcasts and stuff, man, without him, I couldn't do what I'm doing. So being a supporting role is huge. So find a vision you do believe in. If you're like... I think Dave Asprey in the bio... and the bulletproof movement is the thing, go get a job from them, go work for them, go work for free, whatever. It's like, go figure out how you can be close to that person and help bolster. It's like, I'm hoping that everyone believes in something. Figure out something you believe in, you're passionate about and go be a supporter of that. Your vision is not to be something you created. It's just something you're supporting and you're helping to move forward. And so that'd be my two advice, depending on which side you fall on. If you're not sure, just start running. Josh: Love it. Russell: See what happens. Josh: Love it. That's awesome. And I think that's really, really cool. My current assistant, I've cycled through a couple of assistants now and I finally have one and she's amazing. And she's just like, "I came into your company thinking that this is what you needed." And I was like, "Yeah, because that's what I told you I needed. But I had no idea what I needed." And she's like, "What you actually needed is this." And I'm like- Russell: "I need you to tell me what I need." Josh: ... right. I was like, "Are you going to leave me now?" She's like, "No, I believe in you. And I believe in your vision. I know what you're trying to accomplish. You didn't realize this is what you needed but I believe in you." And I'm like, "Huh, that is a relief." If you can find that person, that's lucky. Next thing kind of goes along with this another rapid fire one is, as you're going through and you are figuring out all these different things and testing through your things, how do you make it to where you're not confusing your audience and to where they don't feel you're just a mess, that's everything is everywhere? You're trying all these different things. You're throwing things at the wall. Is that just something that people are just going to leave and just be upset just because, or is that like, is there ways to minimize that and communicate to your community that you don't know what you're doing, but that this is the vision. This is what we're going. I'm just trying a bunch of different things. Is there a way to do that well? Russell: Yeah. I think a couple things, number one is understanding that until you really dial that in, it's going to be hard to get a huge following anyway. Like the other day I was searching my name with someone else's name that I did a deal with 20 years ago and it pulled up the Google results and there was like, "Oh, I was so embarrassed." Anyway, it was bad. But guess what? Those people are all gone now. They left. They're are not even aware what happened. They don't know who I am. Most people are like, "Russell I've been following you since the beginning. Ever since you guys launched Funnel Hacking Live." I was like, "Oh, I was in business 15 years before the first Funnel Hacking Live." "I followed you all the way back from Micro Continuity." I was like, "That was a long time ago, I was in business nine years before Micro Continuity." Most people... Just understanding the people are going to be... When you figure out the thing, it's going to be a whole new group of people. And so it's not stressing too much about that, but at the same time, it's like, it's helping people understand like, I'm experimenting. I call it marketing experiments or like I used to call mine dotcom secrets labs before I wrote the book and anything it's like, I'm practicing these principles. So I would like study SEO and talk about like, "Oh." And I'd sell SEO courses for other people because I’m learning from this person to understand SEO. I'm over here and I'm in a laboratory testing these things out. This is what I'm actually doing. And there's a lot of value in that because you're becoming in proxy the person and sometimes you can cut through stuff that's working and not working, you can get direct access to people that they can. So just helping them understand like, my end goal is I want to be... Again, if I was going to bio hacking world right now, my end goal is I want to be healthier. So for example, this is my live mushroom GTS root beer. It's literally my favorite thing. I get twice a day. It's from Whole Foods. It's got Reishi, Chaga, and Turkey Tail. The actual fruiting bodies of the mushrooms in here blended into this root beer. It tastes like root beer my grandma used to make, I love it. I'm obsessed with it. So I could be like, "This thing's amazing. I'm excited about it. And this is why, and this is why I did the study and this is why I'm doing it." I could probably sell a crap ton of these right now. And then I could find out something else like Anthony DiClementi, he's got this thing. And I'm like, "I can be excited. I'm testing it. I bought his newsletter. I bought his membership site." And so it's just like you as the, I'm like a reporter, who's testing these things out in the beginning until you figure out what your thing is and you can really dial it. Maybe I become the mushroom dude who sells mushroom root beer. I don't know, but anyway. Josh: Please stick with funnels. We need you in that lane more. Is it good? All right. Cool. Next question we got here is, do you ever struggle with scarcity and being in scarcity mode even after you've made... Had all the success and as much money as you you've made, do you still struggle with being in scarcity mode or have you evolved past that? Russell: I don't struggle with scarcity. I have a lot of my own issues for sure. And it's funny because every time someone launches the next click funnels killer, it annoys me. But then I'm like, "You know what? First off they're not going to... I'm willing to outwork all of them and so I'm not worried that way." Number two, competition drives me, which is really, really good. And number three, actually, Annie Grace messaged me this a little while ago. She was talking about her business and all these people who were competing and she felt they were leading her people astray. And I was like, "I get that." And I said, "The thing that's most comforting to me is actually a Bible scripture where Jesus Christ said, my sheep will hear my voice and they'll follow me." That's not direct translation, but basically that's just like, my sheep will hear my voice. And I believe that's something that was true for him. But I think it's true for all of us. It's a universal principle. And so what I understand is like, I'm going to go out there. I'm going to be Russell. The best Russell I can be. And a lot of people are not going to follow me. They're going to understand that person better or whatever. Like some other product better, but my sheep are going to hear my voice and they're going to follow me. I'm going to attract the right people and they're going to come to Funnel Hacking Live, and they're going to use my platform. They're going to be exciting. And those are the people I've been called to serve. I am not called to serve the people who are going to go and go somewhere else. Or they don't resonate my message or with me or whatever. And I got to be okay with that because my sheep will hear my voice. And that's my belief that helps me to not be scared of scarcity, because I don't want those people anyway. I want my sheep to follow me and I'm going to help them. I'm going to serve them. Because that's what I've been called to serve. Josh: That's awesome. That's super cool. All right, next one here is actually from Parker Woodward, shout out Parker. Russell: Yeah, Parker. Josh: He says, "How do you know what positions to put members of your team in so they personally thrive?" Russell: Man, I cannot tell you, just you know Parker, this is a constant thing. So if you read the book Good To Great, one thing he talks about is like finding the right people and then putting them on the right seats on the bus. And those are two different activities. And sometimes you nail it. You're like, "Got the right person. They're on the right seat on the bus. And it's awesome." So many times in my company, I find someone who's amazing and we put them in a thing and it's like, "Oh, they don't fit there." And you move around four or five times like, "This person sucks at their job. They're horrible." And it's not actually true. It's horrible. The problem is you have the right person in the wrong seat on the bus. You get them the right seat and then they thrive. And so it's understanding that and really defining it of like, "What are the seats initially?" Because I think that's... You had this with your system. I don't really know what the seat is. I just know I need help. And I'm drowning, what that is, right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: You or someone around you understands like, this is where I'm hurting, this is what I'm struggling and they can define the seat, then it’s easy to find the right person, or you find somebody like knows the right person. And then having them like working with them, being okay like, "We may have to try a couple seats so we figure out, I know you're the right cultural fit. I know you're the right person, the right work ethic." But I don't know what the skillset is yet. Maybe they don't know yet either. And as soon as you're able to figure out what their unique ability is, then you put in the right spot and then they can thrive. And so it's a two step process. Josh: Interesting. All right. This one's from Braden. He says, "What are the biggest beliefs fundamentally that you had to shift early on in your life or career that you believe are required to get to $100 million and beyond?" Russell: It's funny you think it's like belief that some marketing principles. So I found out every tier, so me to get to a million dollars, I was trying to get a million dollars in the calendar year. It took me three years in row. I missed it by like 20 grand, three years in a row, I couldn't do it. And it was totally like a mental block. I didn't believe that I could do it for some reason. And after I did the first time it was like, "Oh." Then it was easy. And then 10 million was my next mental block. I missed it first year, second year we got, and then... So it's there's these mental blocks where I don't know if it's we don't believe in ourselves. We don't believe in, that we're worth. I don't know if it's, we don't believe worthy of it or we have the abilities of it, whatever. But the first thing is you got to believe in yourself. And that just comes with a lot of you doing things. Again, it comes back... We talked about earlier, like God gives you an idea. You're going to be a good steward of this idea. And the more often you take an idea and you run with it. Even if you fail, the more times you do that, the more you start trusting yourself. And that's a big part of it. Right now I can walk into a room where there's like, things are on fire and there's pure chaos, I have no idea what I'm going to go into it. I walk in knowing that the right idea's going to show up and I need it because I've done it so many times over and over and over and over and over again. I just know that it's going to happen. And I have belief in myself. That's the first thing. I honestly believe that the second thing, this comes back to the spiritual side of things, is that there's a purpose behind it. I struggled growing ClickFunnels because I thought that it was for Russell and Todd and our friends to make money. I thought that's what the business was, for probably the first three or four years. And it wasn't until I hired this coach who helped me see the connection between things. And she's just... Because I was always like, there's business and there's spiritual things. And God doesn't care right with my business because whatever. And she helped me bridge the gap. Like, "Do you see what's actually happening because this business..." She see people's lives are changed. All these kind of things. And she was the first person who said, "This is literally a calling that God gave you to do this." And as soon as I heard that and I felt it and I believed it, it changed everything for me. I was like, "This isn't just something Russell does as a hobby on the side to keep me busy till I die, this is what I was made for." I was made to do this, to inspire entrepreneurs, to change the world because each entrepreneur can do that. And when I heard that and I believed it, then it changed everything. It gave me permission like, "Okay, well then it's all my donkey Kong. I'm going to publish. I'm going to create, I'm going to write books. I'm going to do software. I'm going to do things." Because it wasn't just like money for money's sake. It was because this is the mission. This is the calling. I need to do it. And so it changed everything for me. So I think for you guys, that'd be the next thing is like, you got to be connected. Is this actually what God wants me doing? And if you believe that, you believe it's not just some side hobby, man it gives you the feel you need to grow row because now it's bigger than just you making money. Making money is so uninspiring. Changing the world because you were called to, at least, for me changed everything. Josh: That's super, super interesting. And so obviously, I've worked with Katie Richardson and tremendous mindset shifting things in there. And one of the things that I've learned just about mindset, what you said there is your brain, by default just runs. And so it will run with whatever program... Like 90% of your life is basically autopilot. You don't even realize that you're making the decision that you're making. So it's like, whatever program is there, that's how your life operates. And how you change that is not by changing this or all these different things, it's by literally reprogramming is changing belief. And so if you could actually just shift the belief, that's actually shifting the program. And so I think, for me, when I first got started in entrepreneurship, it was how do I hustle my way to success? It was freaking. I was at Gary Vaynerchuk working 18 hours a day. Let's go. And so I was like, "That's what I'm going to do." And it was like, Katie came in and was like, "Cool. That's the belief that you have and it's only going to get you so far." And then once you can replace that belief, that it's like, "Oh, you don't have to do that anymore, this is the way to do it." It was a real identity crisis. It was like, "But wait, no, I'm a hustler. I'm up to 4:00 in the morning, every single morning. You can't take that away from me." But then once the belief shifted, then it was like, "Oh, everything else in life shifted." It was like, "Okay, cool. Now I operate this way." And so that's super, super interesting that you say that because I feel like- Russell: If you look at like what I believe my only role is inside of ClickFunnels literally is for me to stand on stage, to write books, do podcasts, everything so I can get our customers to believe this will work for them. That's it. I know it works for them. But if I get them the tool and they don't believe this is going to work for them, it will not work for them. I get them to believe this works. I'm the head belief, cheerleader. That's all I'm actually doing is trying to take my... Whoever has the most certainty, any circumstance, any situation always wins. So when I come into something, I've got to come with more certainty than them and I've got to prove them I believe it can work and it can work for them. And if I can get them to believe it, then it'll happen. But that's the hardest thing is just the mental thing inside people's head. As soon as they believe it, you see it, because it's like, "Oh, they're struggling, struggling." And all of a sudden something happens, and I believe it'll work for them and holy cow, next thing they know they're Two Comma Club. It's weird. Because it makes sense. You're like, "No, it's just a process." Like, "No, it's a process, but your belief is your fuel and how you attack this thing one way or the other, 100% depends on if you believe is going to work." If I believe that if I write a book, a million people are going to buy it, I can go write a book. If I'm like, "I don't think anyone's going to buy it. What if they don't like it? What if..." I'll spend 25 years writing this book, it's never going to get done. The belief is everything. Josh: ... yeah. Garrett White talks about that with Warrior Way. He's like, "We tell people this isn't the only way, this is A way." And I was talking with my students the other day, I was like, "Hey guys, how many different ways are there to grow your business?" And they're like, "I don't know, thousands of them." I'm like, "Sweet, what's the way you grow their business?" And they're like, "Funnels." Like without even thinking about it. And it was like, "See what Russell did there." He convinced me… Russell: And that took me seven years of preaching consistently to get the market and get people to believe that. But it wasn't that… yeah. It's interesting. Josh: All right. The next question here, and this comes up... I mean this probably came up probably more than anything outside of funnels was how do you manage the relationship with your family and the balance between work and family? Because this is something I think a lot of people struggle with. I didn't even realize that this was a thing until I got married and then I got married and I was like, "Oh, I'm experiencing a little bit of this." And I'm like, I can't imagine like then kids and then being around. So how do you balance your work and your family and overwhelm and burn out and like... I mean there's limited amounts and it seems you can do everything Russell, like cause you’re everything over there. So how do you balance that with your family and the work life balance of that? Russell: That's a great question. I get asked that a lot, which is interesting. I think a lot of people... Well I think the big problem is most people who are doing what I do, they have... The area of life they’re the entrepreneur, they're killing it, and then the rest of their life's a wreck. Or they just don't talk about the rest of life. No one knows. And so anyway, a couple things is number one, Charfen had us do like a time study before. You ever heard of that before? Josh: Yeah. They were the worst. I hate them so much. Russell: So annoying. Yeah I did it for like three minutes, I was like, "I want to die." But you basically sit down and you start every 15 minutes, you're like, write down what you're doing during the day and really quick you realize, "Oh I'm only actually working two hours a day." And I think the average employee, I think is in two hours and eight hour days is actual productive work, the rest is… Josh: Yeah, something like that. It's super low. Russell: So the first thing is just by default, this is comes from me being a wrestler, right? As a wrestler, we have two hour practice. We got the limited time and I wanted to be the best. So I had to cram as much actual stuff in those small windows as humanly possible. And you know when you're an entrepreneur, you're going on a trip and it's like, "My plane leaves at 2:00, but I got an hour and a half to work." In the hour and a half, you'll get more done than an entire day typically. And so I trick my mind that all the time. So if you look at like a typical eight hour day, like I'm coming in from usually from 9:30, till 5:00, it's like my window that I'm here at the office. When I'm here, I'm super present. But what I do in that window of time is what most people do in a week. Because I don't... People always ask me, "Hey Russell, can I take you to lunch?" I'm like, "You have the luxury of lunch. I've not eaten lunch in, I don't know, decade and a half, I'm working. I quit Uber eats. I keep working. It shows up, I'm eating it. And I keep going." I don't waste time for that crap. I'm in the zone and I'm working and I'm not doodling and texting in a million different things. When I'm doing something, I'm doing the thing. I was up this morning from 5:30, till 7:00, I was writing copy for the new offer. And like, that's what I did by myself. Cranked it out. Seven o'clock, boom, I hear Nora talking, hear the kids getting up. And then I break my presence at the thing and I leave and from 7:00 to like 8:30 ish, I'm a dad. And so I take high school kids in school. I come back and I pick up Nora and I play with her a little bit. And then I get her fed and then Collette's getting her dressed and stuff and I go wake up Aiden and then me and Aiden are hanging out. We're talking about the day. And then Collette takes Ellie to school. Aiden's there. I get in the shower. I get dressed. And by nine o'clock I'm ready to go. And I jump in my car. I come here and then boom, I'm in Russell, like I'm entrepreneur mode and from 9:30 ish till 5;00 I'm here. I'm cranking. My days blocked out. I know everything I got to do during the day. I got a to-do list. I got schedule. Everything's blocked out. I knew from 9:00 to 10:30, me and you were here and I'm present. I'm not looking at 1000... We're here doing the thing, it's going to be done. And then at 10:30, I know exactly what I'm doing. As soon as we're done, I'm not sitting around for 30 minutes, like what should I do next. I know what's going to be happening and I'm going, I'm doing the thing. And so my days are like that. So boom, boom, boom, by the time I get to the end of the day, it's like, "Oh, I got a lot of done today. This is amazing." And then I go home. And when I walk through the door from my car in the garage to the door, I send... Before I walk to the door I stop. And I'm like, "Okay, I got to literally stop for a second." I'm like, I'm getting dad mode. I'm getting husband mode. And I get done and I walk through the door and I'm now a dad and husband. I'm not an entrepreneur. And I go, literally go to every one of my kids in the house. My love language is physical touch. I go give each a hug. I go give my wife a hug. And then I'm there. And from that time I'm dad till 9:00 and then from 9:00 to 11:00 I'm husband and 11 o'clock I'm in bed waiting for the next day. And so it's just, I'm really good at chunking time. And I'm not perfect. Some days I'll get depressed or I'll get tired or burned out or whatever, and I don't hit it. But for the most part, I would say I'm pretty consistent in getting a lot of stuff done in the windows that I got. Josh: That's super, super interesting. Being present and being present at work, being present at home, that balance that once again, something Katie talked about a lot is just like, be fully present with where you are and then set boundaries. Having those clear for that Russell: You ask my wife too, I'm not perfect at it, but I try to let things bleed from thing to thing. I try that when I walk through the garage door at night that I'm done with work and I'm home and then, you know what I mean? Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I think that's what most people don't do is like, it all just mushes together where they're doing everything. So everything becomes done inefficiently. I was listening to Dan Kennedy actually yesterday. He's like, "Would you hire a doctor who is going to do surgery on you, and while he's doing surgery, he's watching YouTube video and he's eating something on the side?" He's like, "No, you want presence if you're going to hire someone." Same thing, if you want to build a funnel, you need your designer and everyone who's doing this to have laser focus. You don't want them doing these other things because you need their full attention and presence. Josh: That's awesome. This one's from Paul Vanblum He says, and I'm going to paraphrase this here because... But how do you modify your behavior? Which is, like maybe you've got this thing that you... I don't know, scroll Facebook too much and you just can't seem to quit. I'm sure that's not a problem for you, but how do you go through it actually change or modify behavior? Because it sounds like a lot of your life is routine. Is that true? You figure out the process that works and then you go until it needs to change. And then it's just you pick the next process. So how do you go through and modify behavior that you want to be able to change? Russell: That's a big section of the new book that's coming out someday in the future. So this is a reality is that the shorter versions if we're running close on time is understanding that we do things that meet our needs. And so we had to figure out, how are our needs being met? Talked about this at Funnel Hacking Live a little bit with Tony Robbins, Six Human Needs, right? Like if any... I wish I could geek out on this for like two hours. Maybe this would be the first topic for next time we do this. Josh: Yeah. I was going to say maybe we do that. Russell: That'd be fun. But there's six human needs and there's four needs of the body. And anytime three of the four needs of the body are met, it creates a physical addiction inside you. So if you're scrolling Facebook all day long, it's because it's meeting a need. Like you're getting certainty from it. You're getting significance from it. And you're probably getting love and connection from it. So three of your four needs are being met... And variety, all four of your needs are being met by scrolling Facebook. So it's creating a physical addiction. So for you to break that physical addiction, it's not going to be easy unless you replace it with another physical addiction that you enjoy more. So it's like I have to replacing that. I can't just just willpower it out and got this thing out and be gone. It's like, I'm trying to get my needs met somewhere. And so they're getting met there, I'm good. So I need to get met somewhere else to replace it. It's a lot of people get their needs met by eating. And so they keep eating, eating, and they want to lose weight and they can't lose weight because all their needs are met there. And so until they replace those needs somewhere else, they're going to keep defaulting to that. Again, we can geek on that for a long time, but that's the core root of it. Is it fulfills your need until you get those needs met somewhere else you're going to keep falling back to it over and over and over again. Josh: All right. Last two, super rapid fire questions. Number one. What is the top, the number one or... I'll give you top three, because number one's impossible. Top three books outside of your own that someone must read? Outside of your own because duh obviously is DotcomSecrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets. Thinking bio... Russell: Oh, depends on which area of your life looking at. I just bought... I spent a... not a small, a pretty big fortune buying the Napoleon Hill thing. So I'm in the middle of this Napoleon Hill like Deep Dive. Can I give you my three best Napoleon Hill books because that’s all I got right now. Josh: There you go. All right, modify the question, three best Napoleon Hill books? Russell: Everything else seems like a distraction. So for me Outwitting the Devil is the best thing he's ever written. It is insanely good and very, very practical. Think and Grow Rich, I've been revisiting and like, oh, it's so good. And then the Laws of Success is not a book. It's a book series, which I now own. Oh my gosh. I don't know if I've even told you this yet. I think I showed you a quick picture, but- Josh: You showed me a video, yeah. Russell: ... The Laws of Success was published in 1928. I have his version that he wrote in 1925 before he sent it to the editors or publishers, first edition signed that he printed at a schoolhouse here in my possession. It's insane. Josh: I can't wait to visit your library bro. Oh my gosh. It's crazy. Russell: But those are the three. I would start with Outwitting the Devil because I'll make you fall in love with Napoleon Hill, then go Think and Grow Rich. And if you love that, then go into Laws of Success' it's like a longer form version of stuff, but it's... Ah, he's my favorite right now. Josh: All right, last question for you. And we all know the answer to this, but I thought it was a great last question to end on just to make sure in business, in marketing, in success for all of success, what's the number one skillset that someone must learn? Russell: Oh, persuasion. Josh: Persuasion. Russell: It's learning how to tell a story in a way that gets people to move. Because everything else, like I can outsource all the rest of it. But like I said, we're talking about creating the offer for the Magnetic Marketing. It's the story, the persuasion, the thing that's going to get people to move. And that... Because that weaves into your funnel, weaves into your email, like weaves into how you get your team to move. How you get your community. All the stuff comes down to that skillset of learning how to persuade people. Josh: Awesome. Well, Russell, I think that wraps it up. We'll see what the audience says. But that is a fun run. Russell: That was really fun, man. I appreciate that. This has been a good day. I woke up this morning working, have a ton of energy. This has been a lot of fun energy. I appreciate you appreciate it. And if you guys like these episodes like this, let us know and we'll do it again. This was kind of a test drive to see if you enjoyed it. Josh: Yeah, you got to let us know guys. Russell: And I had a lot of fun. So hopefully you did too. Josh: Was this was super fun. Yeah, man, for sure. It was good chatting with you and everybody go buy Russell stuff and ClickFunnels and all the things because it'll make you tons and tons of money and that's it. That's just the end of it. Russell: That’s the real reason we did this… I wanted you to pitch the stuff so I didn't have to awkwardly tell people to buy it. Thank you so much. Josh: Okay. Everybody go buy stuff right now. It is amazing. That's my pitch. The first thing you're going to get is you're going to get a change of belief. The second thing you're going to get is you're going to get, I don't know what it is, a step by step process of the marketing bible. The third thing you're going to get is increase the status because Russell will like you. Boom there's my pitch. Russell: Boom. What more do you want in life? Come on now. Josh: Yeah, you can't imagine. All right, Russell. Thank you so much, man. I appreciate your time and we'll talk to you soon. Russell: Awesome. Thank you too. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See if your question got answered live!

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Russell Brunson:

What's up everyone. This is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I'm back with Josh today. And do I tell them what today's episode is, this is a really fun one?

Josh Forti:

Yeah. Today guys, we're doing rapid fire. We went to the community. We asked a bunch of different questions and by the way, we have like so many more to go over. So like, hey, just keep coming in, which is awesome. But it's a rapid fire Q and A with Russell to kind of bring out a side of Russell that maybe, maybe we don't get to see as much by asking just a bunch of rapid fire questions.

Russell:

There's some cool questions there. I think you guys going to enjoy. I think there's something for everybody. So listen, take notes. And next time we ask you for some questions, make sure you submit them maybe you'll get answered live.

Josh:

And called out. We called out some people.

Russell:

It's true. Maybe you got called out. You should pay attention. Anyway, thanks Josh. This was a fun episode, with that said, let’s queue up the theme song and we'll get right back with some Q and As.

Josh:

All right. So this one I want to do a little bit different, kind of phase three here as we go through this is I went and ask community bunch of different questions and there's so many different ones. I've got screenshots on screenshots on screenshots of, on Facebook, on Instagram and kind of things like that. And so I thought it would be cool to go through and do a rapid fire style where we hit you with a bunch of different questions. And there's a lot of similarities, like underlying actual questions at what it is. But a lot of it is people they want to understand your thought process. They want to understand how you run certain things or how you do certain things or whatever. And so what I thought would be cool is I have enough questions to where we could literally do one a minute for the next couple hours.

So take as much time as you want or need to go through this. But I think if we just went through and did like a rapid fire of like, all right, start here and then go through and do this, I think that'd be super beneficial. And I think it'd be a unique creative thing that we could try and see how people like it, sound good?

Russell:

That'd be fun. Let's do it.

Josh:

All right. So the first question is, and I think this kind of... It's interesting, I think this ties into both of our previous topics that we covered and talked about, whether it be podcasting and finding your voice there or funnels and figuring that all out is like... The question got asked probably three or four different times, some variation of like, what do you do when you don't know what you want to do yet, like when you haven't found that voice?

And you're like, because I think... For me, it's interesting. I actually found my voice before I found my product, right? And I think a lot of people figure out what they are going to sell before they find their voice. And so for me it was a little bit easier because I had all these followers before I was ever selling anything and I was super broke and then I found dotcom secrets and it was like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." I literally went from making like $25,000 a year to like $250,000 a year and like one year. It was amazing because I just added it too.

But a lot of people, they really struggle with like, "Okay, cool, I get all these things conceptually. I know I need a funnel and I know I need a value ad. I know I need a community and a following and raving fans. And I get all the things, but I don't know mine yet. I don't know the thing. And so when you're doing that, like what's the thing that you do or what advice would you give people to fix that problem of, or what things should they be focused on when they haven't found their voice yet?

Russell:

I'd say there's two directions on this, and both of them are correct. It's just depends on who you are. Number one, if you are a visionary, if you do the DISC profile, and you're a high I, you want to be the person that's there; the biggest key is not to wait. If I would've waited four click funnels and funnels, I never would've got here. I just started creating stuff that was bad like potato guns, zip brander, or forum fortunes. All these things that didn't work or I made very little money. No one's ever heard of, but I did 150 funnels before I was ever like, "I'm the funnel guy. I'm going to fun... I go on teach..." I started getting into funnels and then we built funnel software, but it was man 14 years and 150 funnels before I figure that out.

But if I wouldn't have been in motion, I never would've found that. So if you are a creator and you know that's your calling, just start moving forward and find out what you're passionate about. If I was starting today, I would be into bio hacking, I'd be into nutrition. I'd be into those are the things I'm really geeking out about now in my life. So I'd be running that direction. I don't know what the opportunity's going to be, but I'm going to do something or I'm going to nothing… And then eventually I feel like God, as we start moving in a direction, like conscious I'm moving this direction, trying to figure this out; He will give us little ideas. He'll give us impressions and ideas. And He's trying to see like, "If I give Russell's idea, is he going to be good steward to this idea or not? And if I take it and I implement it, He's like, oh, he's a good steward of little thing, let me give him some more. Let me give him some more."

And then 14 years later, He is like, "Okay, now I know he's worthy of this. Let me give him the big idea." But He's checking it. And if you get the idea, you're like, "Oh, I'm scared. I get fearful, whatever." And you don't do it, He's not going to give you the next one. He's like, "Oh, he's not a good steward of ideas." And He gives idea to somebody else. It's why, how many times you are like, "I had an idea for that, but so, and so did this." Because you weren’t a good steward of the idea when it showed up. So that's the one thing it's like moving forward.

The second thing is that some of you guys, you're not the visionary person and that's okay. There's 450 people who work at ClickFunnels who aren't the visionary person. And if it wasn't for all of them, I'd be screwed. There are people that are my number twos that are my psychics that are helping me support it and they can buy into my vision. In fact, I remember Leon who designs all my slides for me. He's one of the most amazing people in the world. And he was out here in Boise one day and he's a quiet guy, just more reserved and he's got to leave for the airport. And he pulled me aside, he said, "I want to talk to you real quick." And I was like, "Yeah, what's going on?" And he said, he's like, "I've decided that my mission in life is to help you to get your word out to the world." I got chills and I was like, "Oh my gosh. Thank you."

It was such a cool thing. And I was like... And I got it. He's got this skillset. He's not going to be on stage doing the things and doing podcasts and stuff, man, without him, I couldn't do what I'm doing. So being a supporting role is huge. So find a vision you do believe in. If you're like... I think Dave Asprey in the bio... and the bulletproof movement is the thing, go get a job from them, go work for them, go work for free, whatever. It's like, go figure out how you can be close to that person and help bolster. It's like, I'm hoping that everyone believes in something. Figure out something you believe in, you're passionate about and go be a supporter of that. Your vision is not to be something you created. It's just something you're supporting and you're helping to move forward. And so that'd be my two advice, depending on which side you fall on. If you're not sure, just start running.

Josh:

Love it.

Russell:

See what happens.

Josh:

Love it. That's awesome. And I think that's really, really cool. My current assistant, I've cycled through a couple of assistants now and I finally have one and she's amazing. And she's just like, "I came into your company thinking that this is what you needed." And I was like, "Yeah, because that's what I told you I needed. But I had no idea what I needed." And she's like, "What you actually needed is this." And I'm like-

Russell:

"I need you to tell me what I need."

Josh:

... right. I was like, "Are you going to leave me now?" She's like, "No, I believe in you. And I believe in your vision. I know what you're trying to accomplish. You didn't realize this is what you needed but I believe in you." And I'm like, "Huh, that is a relief." If you can find that person, that's lucky. Next thing kind of goes along with this another rapid fire one is, as you're going through and you are figuring out all these different things and testing through your things, how do you make it to where you're not confusing your audience and to where they don't feel you're just a mess, that's everything is everywhere? You're trying all these different things. You're throwing things at the wall. Is that just something that people are just going to leave and just be upset just because, or is that like, is there ways to minimize that and communicate to your community that you don't know what you're doing, but that this is the vision. This is what we're going. I'm just trying a bunch of different things. Is there a way to do that well?

Russell:

Yeah. I think a couple things, number one is understanding that until you really dial that in, it's going to be hard to get a huge following anyway. Like the other day I was searching my name with someone else's name that I did a deal with 20 years ago and it pulled up the Google results and there was like, "Oh, I was so embarrassed." Anyway, it was bad. But guess what? Those people are all gone now. They left. They're are not even aware what happened. They don't know who I am. Most people are like, "Russell I've been following you since the beginning. Ever since you guys launched Funnel Hacking Live." I was like, "Oh, I was in business 15 years before the first Funnel Hacking Live." "I followed you all the way back from Micro Continuity." I was like, "That was a long time ago, I was in business nine years before Micro Continuity." Most people... Just understanding the people are going to be... When you figure out the thing, it's going to be a whole new group of people.

And so it's not stressing too much about that, but at the same time, it's like, it's helping people understand like, I'm experimenting. I call it marketing experiments or like I used to call mine dotcom secrets labs before I wrote the book and anything it's like, I'm practicing these principles. So I would like study SEO and talk about like, "Oh." And I'd sell SEO courses for other people because I’m learning from this person to understand SEO. I'm over here and I'm in a laboratory testing these things out. This is what I'm actually doing. And there's a lot of value in that because you're becoming in proxy the person and sometimes you can cut through stuff that's working and not working, you can get direct access to people that they can. So just helping them understand like, my end goal is I want to be... Again, if I was going to bio hacking world right now, my end goal is I want to be healthier.

So for example, this is my live mushroom GTS root beer. It's literally my favorite thing. I get twice a day. It's from Whole Foods. It's got Reishi, Chaga, and Turkey Tail. The actual fruiting bodies of the mushrooms in here blended into this root beer. It tastes like root beer my grandma used to make, I love it. I'm obsessed with it. So I could be like, "This thing's amazing. I'm excited about it. And this is why, and this is why I did the study and this is why I'm doing it." I could probably sell a crap ton of these right now. And then I could find out something else like Anthony DiClementi, he's got this thing. And I'm like, "I can be excited. I'm testing it. I bought his newsletter. I bought his membership site." And so it's just like you as the, I'm like a reporter, who's testing these things out in the beginning until you figure out what your thing is and you can really dial it. Maybe I become the mushroom dude who sells mushroom root beer. I don't know, but anyway.

Josh:

Please stick with funnels. We need you in that lane more. Is it good? All right. Cool. Next question we got here is, do you ever struggle with scarcity and being in scarcity mode even after you've made... Had all the success and as much money as you you've made, do you still struggle with being in scarcity mode or have you evolved past that?

Russell:

I don't struggle with scarcity. I have a lot of my own issues for sure. And it's funny because every time someone launches the next click funnels killer, it annoys me. But then I'm like, "You know what? First off they're not going to... I'm willing to outwork all of them and so I'm not worried that way." Number two, competition drives me, which is really, really good. And number three, actually, Annie Grace messaged me this a little while ago. She was talking about her business and all these people who were competing and she felt they were leading her people astray. And I was like, "I get that." And I said, "The thing that's most comforting to me is actually a Bible scripture where Jesus Christ said, my sheep will hear my voice and they'll follow me."

That's not direct translation, but basically that's just like, my sheep will hear my voice. And I believe that's something that was true for him. But I think it's true for all of us. It's a universal principle. And so what I understand is like, I'm going to go out there. I'm going to be Russell. The best Russell I can be. And a lot of people are not going to follow me. They're going to understand that person better or whatever. Like some other product better, but my sheep are going to hear my voice and they're going to follow me.

I'm going to attract the right people and they're going to come to Funnel Hacking Live, and they're going to use my platform. They're going to be exciting. And those are the people I've been called to serve. I am not called to serve the people who are going to go and go somewhere else. Or they don't resonate my message or with me or whatever. And I got to be okay with that because my sheep will hear my voice. And that's my belief that helps me to not be scared of scarcity, because I don't want those people anyway. I want my sheep to follow me and I'm going to help them. I'm going to serve them. Because that's what I've been called to serve.

Josh:

That's awesome. That's super cool. All right, next one here is actually from Parker Woodward, shout out Parker.

Russell:

Yeah, Parker.

Josh:

He says, "How do you know what positions to put members of your team in so they personally thrive?"

Russell:

Man, I cannot tell you, just you know Parker, this is a constant thing. So if you read the book Good To Great, one thing he talks about is like finding the right people and then putting them on the right seats on the bus. And those are two different activities. And sometimes you nail it. You're like, "Got the right person. They're on the right seat on the bus. And it's awesome." So many times in my company, I find someone who's amazing and we put them in a thing and it's like, "Oh, they don't fit there." And you move around four or five times like, "This person sucks at their job. They're horrible." And it's not actually true. It's horrible. The problem is you have the right person in the wrong seat on the bus. You get them the right seat and then they thrive. And so it's understanding that and really defining it of like, "What are the seats initially?" Because I think that's... You had this with your system. I don't really know what the seat is. I just know I need help. And I'm drowning, what that is, right?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

You or someone around you understands like, this is where I'm hurting, this is what I'm struggling and they can define the seat, then it’s easy to find the right person, or you find somebody like knows the right person. And then having them like working with them, being okay like, "We may have to try a couple seats so we figure out, I know you're the right cultural fit. I know you're the right person, the right work ethic." But I don't know what the skillset is yet. Maybe they don't know yet either. And as soon as you're able to figure out what their unique ability is, then you put in the right spot and then they can thrive. And so it's a two step process.

Josh:

Interesting. All right. This one's from Braden. He says, "What are the biggest beliefs fundamentally that you had to shift early on in your life or career that you believe are required to get to $100 million and beyond?"

Russell:

It's funny you think it's like belief that some marketing principles. So I found out every tier, so me to get to a million dollars, I was trying to get a million dollars in the calendar year. It took me three years in row. I missed it by like 20 grand, three years in a row, I couldn't do it. And it was totally like a mental block. I didn't believe that I could do it for some reason. And after I did the first time it was like, "Oh." Then it was easy. And then 10 million was my next mental block. I missed it first year, second year we got, and then... So it's there's these mental blocks where I don't know if it's we don't believe in ourselves. We don't believe in, that we're worth. I don't know if it's, we don't believe worthy of it or we have the abilities of it, whatever.

But the first thing is you got to believe in yourself. And that just comes with a lot of you doing things. Again, it comes back... We talked about earlier, like God gives you an idea. You're going to be a good steward of this idea. And the more often you take an idea and you run with it. Even if you fail, the more times you do that, the more you start trusting yourself. And that's a big part of it. Right now I can walk into a room where there's like, things are on fire and there's pure chaos, I have no idea what I'm going to go into it. I walk in knowing that the right idea's going to show up and I need it because I've done it so many times over and over and over and over and over again. I just know that it's going to happen. And I have belief in myself. That's the first thing.

I honestly believe that the second thing, this comes back to the spiritual side of things, is that there's a purpose behind it. I struggled growing ClickFunnels because I thought that it was for Russell and Todd and our friends to make money. I thought that's what the business was, for probably the first three or four years. And it wasn't until I hired this coach who helped me see the connection between things. And she's just... Because I was always like, there's business and there's spiritual things. And God doesn't care right with my business because whatever. And she helped me bridge the gap. Like, "Do you see what's actually happening because this business..." She see people's lives are changed. All these kind of things. And she was the first person who said, "This is literally a calling that God gave you to do this."

And as soon as I heard that and I felt it and I believed it, it changed everything for me. I was like, "This isn't just something Russell does as a hobby on the side to keep me busy till I die, this is what I was made for." I was made to do this, to inspire entrepreneurs, to change the world because each entrepreneur can do that. And when I heard that and I believed it, then it changed everything. It gave me permission like, "Okay, well then it's all my donkey Kong. I'm going to publish. I'm going to create, I'm going to write books. I'm going to do software. I'm going to do things." Because it wasn't just like money for money's sake. It was because this is the mission. This is the calling. I need to do it.

And so it changed everything for me. So I think for you guys, that'd be the next thing is like, you got to be connected. Is this actually what God wants me doing? And if you believe that, you believe it's not just some side hobby, man it gives you the feel you need to grow row because now it's bigger than just you making money. Making money is so uninspiring. Changing the world because you were called to, at least, for me changed everything.

Josh:

That's super, super interesting. And so obviously, I've worked with Katie Richardson and tremendous mindset shifting things in there. And one of the things that I've learned just about mindset, what you said there is your brain, by default just runs. And so it will run with whatever program... Like 90% of your life is basically autopilot. You don't even realize that you're making the decision that you're making. So it's like, whatever program is there, that's how your life operates. And how you change that is not by changing this or all these different things, it's by literally reprogramming is changing belief. And so if you could actually just shift the belief, that's actually shifting the program. And so I think, for me, when I first got started in entrepreneurship, it was how do I hustle my way to success?

It was freaking. I was at Gary Vaynerchuk working 18 hours a day. Let's go. And so I was like, "That's what I'm going to do." And it was like, Katie came in and was like, "Cool. That's the belief that you have and it's only going to get you so far." And then once you can replace that belief, that it's like, "Oh, you don't have to do that anymore, this is the way to do it." It was a real identity crisis. It was like, "But wait, no, I'm a hustler. I'm up to 4:00 in the morning, every single morning. You can't take that away from me." But then once the belief shifted, then it was like, "Oh, everything else in life shifted." It was like, "Okay, cool. Now I operate this way." And so that's super, super interesting that you say that because I feel like-

Russell:

If you look at like what I believe my only role is inside of ClickFunnels literally is for me to stand on stage, to write books, do podcasts, everything so I can get our customers to believe this will work for them. That's it. I know it works for them. But if I get them the tool and they don't believe this is going to work for them, it will not work for them. I get them to believe this works. I'm the head belief, cheerleader. That's all I'm actually doing is trying to take my... Whoever has the most certainty, any circumstance, any situation always wins. So when I come into something, I've got to come with more certainty than them and I've got to prove them I believe it can work and it can work for them. And if I can get them to believe it, then it'll happen.

But that's the hardest thing is just the mental thing inside people's head. As soon as they believe it, you see it, because it's like, "Oh, they're struggling, struggling." And all of a sudden something happens, and I believe it'll work for them and holy cow, next thing they know they're Two Comma Club. It's weird. Because it makes sense. You're like, "No, it's just a process." Like, "No, it's a process, but your belief is your fuel and how you attack this thing one way or the other, 100% depends on if you believe is going to work." If I believe that if I write a book, a million people are going to buy it, I can go write a book. If I'm like, "I don't think anyone's going to buy it. What if they don't like it? What if..." I'll spend 25 years writing this book, it's never going to get done. The belief is everything.

Josh:

... yeah. Garrett White talks about that with Warrior Way. He's like, "We tell people this isn't the only way, this is A way." And I was talking with my students the other day, I was like, "Hey guys, how many different ways are there to grow your business?" And they're like, "I don't know, thousands of them." I'm like, "Sweet, what's the way you grow their business?" And they're like, "Funnels." Like without even thinking about it. And it was like, "See what Russell did there." He convinced me…

Russell:

And that took me seven years of preaching consistently to get the market and get people to believe that. But it wasn't that… yeah. It's interesting.

Josh:

All right. The next question here, and this comes up... I mean this probably came up probably more than anything outside of funnels was how do you manage the relationship with your family and the balance between work and family? Because this is something I think a lot of people struggle with. I didn't even realize that this was a thing until I got married and then I got married and I was like, "Oh, I'm experiencing a little bit of this." And I'm like, I can't imagine like then kids and then being around. So how do you balance your work and your family and overwhelm and burn out and like... I mean there's limited amounts and it seems you can do everything Russell, like cause you’re everything over there. So how do you balance that with your family and the work life balance of that?

Russell:

That's a great question. I get asked that a lot, which is interesting. I think a lot of people... Well I think the big problem is most people who are doing what I do, they have... The area of life they’re the entrepreneur, they're killing it, and then the rest of their life's a wreck. Or they just don't talk about the rest of life. No one knows. And so anyway, a couple things is number one, Charfen had us do like a time study before. You ever heard of that before?

Josh:

Yeah. They were the worst. I hate them so much.

Russell:

So annoying. Yeah I did it for like three minutes, I was like, "I want to die." But you basically sit down and you start every 15 minutes, you're like, write down what you're doing during the day and really quick you realize, "Oh I'm only actually working two hours a day." And I think the average employee, I think is in two hours and eight hour days is actual productive work, the rest is…

Josh:

Yeah, something like that. It's super low.

Russell:

So the first thing is just by default, this is comes from me being a wrestler, right? As a wrestler, we have two hour practice. We got the limited time and I wanted to be the best. So I had to cram as much actual stuff in those small windows as humanly possible. And you know when you're an entrepreneur, you're going on a trip and it's like, "My plane leaves at 2:00, but I got an hour and a half to work." In the hour and a half, you'll get more done than an entire day typically. And so I trick my mind that all the time. So if you look at like a typical eight hour day, like I'm coming in from usually from 9:30, till 5:00, it's like my window that I'm here at the office. When I'm here, I'm super present. But what I do in that window of time is what most people do in a week. Because I don't... People always ask me, "Hey Russell, can I take you to lunch?"

I'm like, "You have the luxury of lunch. I've not eaten lunch in, I don't know, decade and a half, I'm working. I quit Uber eats. I keep working. It shows up, I'm eating it. And I keep going." I don't waste time for that crap. I'm in the zone and I'm working and I'm not doodling and texting in a million different things. When I'm doing something, I'm doing the thing. I was up this morning from 5:30, till 7:00, I was writing copy for the new offer. And like, that's what I did by myself. Cranked it out. Seven o'clock, boom, I hear Nora talking, hear the kids getting up. And then I break my presence at the thing and I leave and from 7:00 to like 8:30 ish, I'm a dad.

And so I take high school kids in school. I come back and I pick up Nora and I play with her a little bit. And then I get her fed and then Collette's getting her dressed and stuff and I go wake up Aiden and then me and Aiden are hanging out. We're talking about the day. And then Collette takes Ellie to school. Aiden's there. I get in the shower. I get dressed. And by nine o'clock I'm ready to go. And I jump in my car. I come here and then boom, I'm in Russell, like I'm entrepreneur mode and from 9:30 ish till 5;00 I'm here. I'm cranking. My days blocked out. I know everything I got to do during the day. I got a to-do list. I got schedule. Everything's blocked out. I knew from 9:00 to 10:30, me and you were here and I'm present.

I'm not looking at 1000... We're here doing the thing, it's going to be done. And then at 10:30, I know exactly what I'm doing. As soon as we're done, I'm not sitting around for 30 minutes, like what should I do next. I know what's going to be happening and I'm going, I'm doing the thing. And so my days are like that. So boom, boom, boom, by the time I get to the end of the day, it's like, "Oh, I got a lot of done today. This is amazing." And then I go home. And when I walk through the door from my car in the garage to the door, I send... Before I walk to the door I stop. And I'm like, "Okay, I got to literally stop for a second." I'm like, I'm getting dad mode. I'm getting husband mode. And I get done and I walk through the door and I'm now a dad and husband.

I'm not an entrepreneur. And I go, literally go to every one of my kids in the house. My love language is physical touch. I go give each a hug. I go give my wife a hug. And then I'm there. And from that time I'm dad till 9:00 and then from 9:00 to 11:00 I'm husband and 11 o'clock I'm in bed waiting for the next day. And so it's just, I'm really good at chunking time. And I'm not perfect. Some days I'll get depressed or I'll get tired or burned out or whatever, and I don't hit it. But for the most part, I would say I'm pretty consistent in getting a lot of stuff done in the windows that I got.

Josh:

That's super, super interesting. Being present and being present at work, being present at home, that balance that once again, something Katie talked about a lot is just like, be fully present with where you are and then set boundaries. Having those clear for that

Russell:

You ask my wife too, I'm not perfect at it, but I try to let things bleed from thing to thing. I try that when I walk through the garage door at night that I'm done with work and I'm home and then, you know what I mean?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And I think that's what most people don't do is like, it all just mushes together where they're doing everything. So everything becomes done inefficiently. I was listening to Dan Kennedy actually yesterday. He's like, "Would you hire a doctor who is going to do surgery on you, and while he's doing surgery, he's watching YouTube video and he's eating something on the side?" He's like, "No, you want presence if you're going to hire someone." Same thing, if you want to build a funnel, you need your designer and everyone who's doing this to have laser focus. You don't want them doing these other things because you need their full attention and presence.

Josh:

That's awesome. This one's from Paul Vanblum He says, and I'm going to paraphrase this here because... But how do you modify your behavior? Which is, like maybe you've got this thing that you... I don't know, scroll Facebook too much and you just can't seem to quit. I'm sure that's not a problem for you, but how do you go through it actually change or modify behavior? Because it sounds like a lot of your life is routine. Is that true? You figure out the process that works and then you go until it needs to change. And then it's just you pick the next process. So how do you go through and modify behavior that you want to be able to change?

Russell:

That's a big section of the new book that's coming out someday in the future. So this is a reality is that the shorter versions if we're running close on time is understanding that we do things that meet our needs. And so we had to figure out, how are our needs being met? Talked about this at Funnel Hacking Live a little bit with Tony Robbins, Six Human Needs, right? Like if any... I wish I could geek out on this for like two hours. Maybe this would be the first topic for next time we do this.

Josh:

Yeah. I was going to say maybe we do that.

Russell:

That'd be fun. But there's six human needs and there's four needs of the body. And anytime three of the four needs of the body are met, it creates a physical addiction inside you. So if you're scrolling Facebook all day long, it's because it's meeting a need. Like you're getting certainty from it. You're getting significance from it. And you're probably getting love and connection from it. So three of your four needs are being met... And variety, all four of your needs are being met by scrolling Facebook. So it's creating a physical addiction. So for you to break that physical addiction, it's not going to be easy unless you replace it with another physical addiction that you enjoy more.

So it's like I have to replacing that. I can't just just willpower it out and got this thing out and be gone. It's like, I'm trying to get my needs met somewhere. And so they're getting met there, I'm good. So I need to get met somewhere else to replace it. It's a lot of people get their needs met by eating. And so they keep eating, eating, and they want to lose weight and they can't lose weight because all their needs are met there. And so until they replace those needs somewhere else, they're going to keep defaulting to that. Again, we can geek on that for a long time, but that's the core root of it. Is it fulfills your need until you get those needs met somewhere else you're going to keep falling back to it over and over and over again.

Josh:

All right. Last two, super rapid fire questions. Number one. What is the top, the number one or... I'll give you top three, because number one's impossible. Top three books outside of your own that someone must read? Outside of your own because duh obviously is DotcomSecrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets. Thinking bio...

Russell:

Oh, depends on which area of your life looking at. I just bought... I spent a... not a small, a pretty big fortune buying the Napoleon Hill thing. So I'm in the middle of this Napoleon Hill like Deep Dive. Can I give you my three best Napoleon Hill books because that’s all I got right now.

Josh:

There you go. All right, modify the question, three best Napoleon Hill books?

Russell:

Everything else seems like a distraction. So for me Outwitting the Devil is the best thing he's ever written. It is insanely good and very, very practical. Think and Grow Rich, I've been revisiting and like, oh, it's so good. And then the Laws of Success is not a book. It's a book series, which I now own. Oh my gosh. I don't know if I've even told you this yet. I think I showed you a quick picture, but-

Josh:

You showed me a video, yeah.

Russell:

... The Laws of Success was published in 1928. I have his version that he wrote in 1925 before he sent it to the editors or publishers, first edition signed that he printed at a schoolhouse here in my possession. It's insane.

Josh:

I can't wait to visit your library bro. Oh my gosh. It's crazy.

Russell:

But those are the three. I would start with Outwitting the Devil because I'll make you fall in love with Napoleon Hill, then go Think and Grow Rich. And if you love that, then go into Laws of Success' it's like a longer form version of stuff, but it's... Ah, he's my favorite right now.

Josh:

All right, last question for you. And we all know the answer to this, but I thought it was a great last question to end on just to make sure in business, in marketing, in success for all of success, what's the number one skillset that someone must learn?

Russell:

Oh, persuasion.

Josh:

Persuasion.

Russell:

It's learning how to tell a story in a way that gets people to move. Because everything else, like I can outsource all the rest of it. But like I said, we're talking about creating the offer for the Magnetic Marketing. It's the story, the persuasion, the thing that's going to get people to move. And that... Because that weaves into your funnel, weaves into your email, like weaves into how you get your team to move. How you get your community. All the stuff comes down to that skillset of learning how to persuade people.

Josh:

Awesome. Well, Russell, I think that wraps it up. We'll see what the audience says. But that is a fun run.

Russell:

That was really fun, man. I appreciate that. This has been a good day. I woke up this morning working, have a ton of energy. This has been a lot of fun energy. I appreciate you appreciate it. And if you guys like these episodes like this, let us know and we'll do it again. This was kind of a test drive to see if you enjoyed it.

Josh:

Yeah, you got to let us know guys.

Russell:

And I had a lot of fun. So hopefully you did too.

Josh:

Was this was super fun. Yeah, man, for sure. It was good chatting with you and everybody go buy Russell stuff and ClickFunnels and all the things because it'll make you tons and tons of money and that's it. That's just the end of it.

Russell:

That’s the real reason we did this… I wanted you to pitch the stuff so I didn't have to awkwardly tell people to buy it. Thank you so much.

Josh:

Okay. Everybody go buy stuff right now. It is amazing. That's my pitch. The first thing you're going to get is you're going to get a change of belief. The second thing you're going to get is you're going to get, I don't know what it is, a step by step process of the marketing bible. The third thing you're going to get is increase the status because Russell will like you. Boom there's my pitch.

Russell:

Boom. What more do you want in life? Come on now.

Josh:

Yeah, you can't imagine. All right, Russell. Thank you so much, man. I appreciate your time and we'll talk to you soon.

Russell:

Awesome. Thank you too.

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]]> 1881 no The MOST Important Part of the Funnel (I Guarantee it’s NOT What You Think!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-most-important-part-of-the-funnel-i-guarantee-its-not-what-you-think What is the future of funnels...? With meta-verse coming, what should we be focused on now!? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. I'm back with my co-host Josh Forti. How you doing, man? Josh Forti: I'm doing awesome, man. How are you? Russell: Doing so good. We just recorded a new episode for you guys. This one's all about funnels and I think it went in a different direction you thought it was going to go, didn't it? Josh: Yeah, it did, a little bit. It was super good. Russell: …because the question was like, "What is the next funnel? What's the thing?" And it wasn't a funnel thing, it was something different. So, I think this is an episode you guys can enjoy. Josh: It's tough. Russell: It's been so exciting for me, I literally woke up at 5:00 AM every morning this week because I'm geeking out on the thing that you're going to learn about. And hopefully, it'll help you guys with all your funnels, no matter if you're running a webinar funnel, or a book funnel, or a challenge funnel, or whatever, doesn't really matter. This principle, you can overlay on top of all of them and it'll make them all better. So, that said, should we queue up the theme song? Josh: Let's do it. Russell: Let's go. Josh: Now we got to move into.. I want to move into funnels, dude. This is a topic that continued to come up. So kind of a back story. When we're preparing for this episode, guys like, Russell hit me up and was like, "Do you want to do a podcast together?" And I was like, "Yeah, what do you want to do it on?" He's like, "I don't know, find something." And I'm like, "oh, all right." And so- Russell: "You tell me." Josh: I do what I all always do and I go to the community and I'm like, if the community tells me... I loved Poland's presentation at Funnel Hacking Live it's like, "Ask, go ask your community. What did they tell you?" And so, that's what we did. I went to my Facebook group and I went on my Instagram and luckily, I have a pretty engaged following that will give us lots of feedback back. And this theme that kept coming up was funnels. And obviously, this is your world. But it was interesting because I've been talking with several different higher level people that are like, "How are all the funnels, they made tens of millions of dollars or whatever?" And it's like, "This funnel's not really working anymore. This funnel's kind of working here. This type of funnel is working." And so there's like, I feel like we're in this phase of funnels are almost evolving, where it used to be that you could run an ad to a webinar and sell a 9.97 product, and make a million bucks, and high profit margins, and you can make it work. But I was talking to Dan Henry the other day and he's like, "Dude, I can't even make that work anymore." And he's like, "And I'm brilliant at ads." And like Sam Ovens, I was talking to him the other day- Russell: Dan Henry, "I know everything." I love Dan. Josh: And Sam Ovens was like, "Man, we're probably going to shut down our front-end $2,000 program and we're going to transition up and evolve the way we do funnels." And so, funnels are the thing, obviously. They're going to be around forever, they've been around forever, you popularized them. But I want to go and take this into two parts and see where this goes. But number one, what is the foundation of funnels? What are the things that like... it doesn't matter how it's executed, the funnel itself, this is the thing that works. Because I think a lot of people get confused that... Whenever I talk to a lot of my students that are building funnels, they're like, "Should I do this type or this?" And I'm like, "The core essence of funnels doesn't change," so what are the core essence of funnels? And then two, what is the future of what that looks like rolled out with technology? Because I mean, I know it's not here yet and one of the things we'll talk about, but- Russell: Metaverse. Josh: We got Metaverse. And my wife was like, "Oh my gosh, ask Russell. If I want to be able to walk into Metaverse and Russell's going to be right there being like, "'Hey, do you want to buy my funnel cake,' click this button and you go into a portal. Instead of another page, you enter a new world that is Russell's world, that'd be so cool." But let's start with the foundation of funnels. When someone is building a funnel, when they're looking at it, what are the core pieces that they're actually looking at? Take us back to the foundation of that because I think a lot of people miss that or forget. Russell: Yeah. So, I'll take you back in history back in time so back to my beginning. Think what example I have sitting here on my desk that I can show you. So, the core, the thing you have to understand why funnels are essential, and why they'll always be here, comes back to my favorite Dan Kennedy quote of all time which is, "Whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins." This is the foundation but... Everything else you have understand- Josh: Like 7,000 speakers at Funnel Hacking Live all said that. Russell: Yeah, because it's the thing. In fact, you'll see, if you look at the... And maybe we'll get into this. My next move, what's happening next year for me? I'm looking at this, all ties into that as well. Why did I buy Dan Kennedy's company? Why am I doing these things? And I'll show you it's literally to solve that exact same question. So, when I got started 20 years ago, people didn't have offers yet they just had a product. So, you would be... Just say a book, like, "Okay, here's my book," and I would just sell a product, and that was what I was selling. And it worked for a long time and then guess what? Everyone else is like, "Oh, dude's making money with this product, I can make a product," they make the same product. Now you got 10 people selling a product that's similar. And so, then it's harder to compete because now you're no longer a unique thing, you are a commodity. And anytime you're a commodity, the person with the lowest price always wins. So, as soon as everyone's doing it, you got to drop at the bottom and then you lose your margin and then life sucks because if you don't profit what's the point of what we're doing? So, there's the first phase. So, then the next phase is like, "Okay, well I got a product, everyone's got the same product but how do I turn this from a product into an offer?" That was the first evolution. It's like, "Hey, when you buy my book, you also get my book, but you're also going to get my video course, my audio course, and then my checklist and my..." And all of a sudden you make something truly unique again where it's like, not just a product, but this is my offer that's specific, unique to me, that nobody else has. So that was the next evolution. And we got really good then in making offers that were sexy. It's like, "Oh yeah, everyone's selling this, but mine, if you get mine, you also da da, da, da, these other things." Right? And that's where this whole offer development started happening. In my mind, probably 15 years ago is when this became the thing that we all focused on. And whoever had the best offer was going to win because ads didn't ship that much. It was just like you're competing so now you're competing with six different people or 10 different people. So because that, Google ads AdWords cost went up, because there's 20 people bidding on the same keyword versus just you, initially. Now you're coming in, you make a better offer. Then you get the lion share people buy from you because your offer is the best. That was kind the next phase. And then of course the market evolves. Everyone gets smart. Everyone starts making good offers. Now it's like, maybe they're unique offers, but they're all good offers. Now it's like the market's getting fragmented up again. And so this is where the evolution now of funnels started happening where... And it was before. We didn't have one click up-sales back in the day. But the first thing was like: you buy my potato gun DVD, fill in your credit card, you buy it. The next page, you're like, "Do you want the potato gun kit? Cool. Get your credit card back out and fill it out again." And they'd fill out all the credit card again. Josh: Dang. Russell: But even with that, there's no one-click up-sales, man, like 15, 20, 30% people would buy the second thing. And all of a sudden, I'm selling a potato gun DVD, but I'm making 200 bucks on the back of the kit and nobody else selling potato gun DVDs was doing. I could outspend them all. So even though costs me more per click, I was able to get all the clicks because I made way more money than anybody else. So I was able to dominate the market. And that was kind of the next phase. And what's interesting is that depending on the market you're in, depends on where this is. For example, I'm in a fun phase where I wanted some side projects. So I'm launching a couple supplement companies. The first supplement company launched is called Zooma Juice. It's a green drink company. And some of you guys know, I actually worked with Drew Canole and his team back in the day on Organifi, and helped them launch that when it first came out seven years ago, and helped him build an actual funnel. And what's interesting is because of that... The green drink market is sophisticated. I went and funnel hacked, probably, 30 green drink offers before we built Zooma Juice. And all of them have pretty advanced funnels. Everyone's doing the best practices pretty well. Second company that we are starting, I acquired a bone broth company. And so I took... Got bone broth company and went funnel hacked every bone broth offer. And that market's new. Nobody had a funnel, not one. They have an offer, they have a product, that's it. And I'm like, "I'm walking into virgin funnel territory." We’ll be the biggest bone broth company on the planet in like 30 days? Because there's nobody who understands any of what we're talking about. We'll outspend everybody 10 to 1 because we understand the funnel structure. So depending on what market you're in, some markets haven't even evolved to the funnels yet. Some have, that's exciting. If they have, it's like, "Cool. We got... We can funnel hack. We get good ideas of what's working." If it hasn't like, "Man, you can bring all the stuff we know into these markets and just dominate and destroy them all." It was funny, as we were buying, I was funnel hacking the bone broth offers, I was like, "There's literally not single upsell, order form bump, email sequence. Like nothing." I was just like, "This is like, oh, embarrassing. Almost too easy." That was next phase though. And then to your point, initially it was like... In fact, I remember 10 pre-click funnels. Almost every funnel was the same. It was a video sales letter order button order form upsell one, upsell two, down-sell, down-sell. Thank you, basically. That was what a funnel was. In fact, if you look at, before we launched ClickFunnels, the first T and C event, Ryan Dice and Perry, and they had this whole team event talk about, "Here's the funnel." And they had a funnel and there's only one. And it was just like, "This is the five steps of every funnel." And it fits. It was like trip wire. They had these five steps like trip wire, profit maximizer, and they five or six... They had a name for each page. And it was like, "This is the funnel." And in reality, that was the funnel. There weren't funnels. It was like, "This is a funnel. This is kind of the one." And at the time when I was writing The Dot Com Seekers book and we had been playing with different ones, but there wasn't a lot of this thing out there. Was just kind of like, for the most part, there was a funnel. After ClickFunnels came out and it gave people the ability to create things fast and start innovating, creating ideas, that. And then I was like writing all my ideas in the book and people are doing stuff. It started evolving quickly. Last seven years have evolved where now there's been like a million different funnel things come out, from webinar funnels, auto webinar funnels, high funnels, low ticket funnels, trip wires, SLOs VSLs, challenges, paid challenges, free challenges, challenges to a webinar challenges to high tickets, a webinar to high ticket. There's a billion variations that come from that which probably gets people overwhelming. And so this os what I want to tell them because, this kind of comes back to your first questions, what is it? The reality is, it's going to be shocking for most of you guys, what funnel type you use doesn't really matter. They all work. The thing that matters is the offer. You still have to make the sexiest offer. That's still the most important. We acquired Dan Kennedy's company and we're doing this merger. And like I've spent I podcast episode this morning driving to the office. I've been up every single morning at 5:00 AM because I'm so excited. Because we have a fun, we picked a funnel on structure, we have all of products. I spend a week every morning at 5:00 AM, from 5:00 till like 7:30, when my kids are getting up, in there writing the page for the copy and the offer, and then tweaking and tweaking. That's the thing. The sexiness of the offer that gets people in is the key. So I can get them in, I can use this to get them in a webinar, in a challenge, in a free plus shipping. It doesn't matter. It's like the offer is the thing that puts people in a momentum. And the thing that I'm selling, I could sell it in the webinar. I could sell it in the challenge. I like there's I could sell in all the different funnels. It would fit in all of them. I'm picking the one that I'm using because I think it's going to go... For like the launch campaign, it the one that'll probably get sells the fastest, but it'll work in all of them. And So it's understanding that, it's still coming to the core fundamentals. The funnel structure is the sales process. All of them will work. You just got to figure out better way to sell. Like that's the harder thing that people are missing. Josh: All right. So let's talk... I want to dive into that offer. When you say specifically here... Because I think, and this is just from coaching with a lot of people, the questions that I get asked when I talk about this type of stuff. You talk about the offers, the sexy thing, but how does the offer affect getting somebody to opt in? How does the offer affect my ad? How does the offer affect the training? I don't show my offer until the end after the whole thing. So how does that affect every other step of the funnel? Russell: Okay, great question. So if I can see one here. Right, sorry. I had all the examples here a second ago. Oh, well. I'll just tell you the story. So when Dan Kennedy started his newsletter, in the Dan Kennedy company, the newsletter's the foundation of everything. And we could do a whole podcast episode just on psychology of the original GKIC, when Bill Glazer was running it with Dan. But the newsletter- Josh: Sounds like a sexy topic. Russell: Yeah. It'd be really fun, actually. I love... In fact, it's funny because I spent so much time with Bill Glazer geeking out about. I knew their business really well. And when that they sold it the very first time people bought it and didn't understand the business. And I saw within weeks of them destroying the foundation, I was like, "You guys literally don't know what you bought. You should have asked some questions before you wrote a check that big anyway." But the core is the newsletter. And so I had a chance to go back in the archives. I literally... they gave me, "Here's Google drive. Everything's ever been created." So I'm like, "This is... It's insane." for nerdy Russell, everything Dan's ever said is in this drive. And most of it, no one's ever seen before, so I'm freaking out. But the newsletter started back in like 1995 ish. I was like 15 years old when it started and it was just a newsletter. That's all it was right. It's like a product. That's how they sold it. And from '95 till I think I was probably 23, 24. So, 2004, 2005 ish was when Bill Glazer bought out the company from Dan and kind of ran it, and then they launched it. Instead of a newsletter, they launched it as an offer. And the offer at the time... I still remember the day it happened because I got like 400 emails from my Yanik Silver and all the different gurus at the time. They all started emailing about this Dan Kennedy offer. And it was called the most incredible free gift ever. And in fact, internally in the company called the MIFGE offer, M-I-F-G-E, the most incredible free gift ever. And what it was, it was like, "Hey, when you sign up for magnetic marketing net letter, what you're going to get is you're going to get..." I think it's like, "$639.93 for the money making material from Dan Kennedy himself." So it was like, "We'll give you all this cool stuff when you sign up for the newsletter." And it was the bribe. It's kind of like, if you guys remember back in the day, sports illustrator. It's really hard to sell sports illustrated issues. So what they would do is they would have TV commercials were like, "Here's sports illustrator, 12 issues year about the best sports. When you sign up today, we're going to give you..." And then they had their version of the most incredible free gift offer. It was this huge football clock and the sports illustrator swimsuit issue. That was the MIFGE offer for sports illustrator. And so Dan had their... They had their MIFGE offer, and they went from having five or 600 subscribers at that time to... Bill built it up to over, I don't know, 10, 15, 20. I don't know how big it got it as peak, but 10,000 plus members. And it was because they took a newsletter and they made it an offer. And that's how they launched initially. And so the MIFGE is how they did it. Now, fast forward to Russell gets access to all this stuff. I'm like, "This is amazing." So I'm trying to sit... I sat down Monday morning. No, sorry. It was last Saturday. Saturday. I wanted to write... I didn't want to do all the pages in the offer. So I have some of my team do the upsells and down-sells. I was like, "The landing page, this is mine." I want to write because I want to make sure I get the offer right and everything. Because this is... everything hinges on this. The landing page is broken, nothing works. And so I went and I funnel hacked. I every newsletter, sales letter, I could find throughout time. I just went deep in my archives, way back machine. People I knew who publishing newsletters, looked at every variation of theirs for the last 10 years. I totally geeked out like Russell does. Funnel hacking. I want to understand how people are structuring their newsletter offers. Gore's got a ton of them. So I'm looking at tons of them and everyone I looked at, I come back to like the Dan Kennedy one I'm like this offers just not sexy. More like $630 of money making information sounded cool in 2003. But today, it's like every opt-in, people are giving a thousand dollars worth of free crap. It wasn't that sexy- Josh: Right. Inflation, baby. Oh my word. Russell: Yeah. And then I'm like, "Now my funnel nerds are going to go and they're going to sign for this newsletter, and they're going to get this newsletter from Dan. He's talking about direct mail and faxing. And they're going to be confused and they're going to cancel." I have this weird opportunity. I was like, "This is just not the right thing." And I was like, "How do I make this sexy excited? How do I get myself excited to email about it?" And then Dan's email. I got to get affiliates on board and other people. How do I make this sexy so that I can create the noise? So that when there's an ad, there's a good enough hook in the ad that people are going to click? Because if the ads like, "Old marketing, grumpy marketing genius is going to give you 300 or $639 money making material for free when you join this newsletter," no one's going to click on that. The hook sucks now. It was good in 2003, horrible in 2021. And so I'm like sitting there and I spent three hours just going to yourself. And I was like, no matter how I tried, the offer just didn't feel right. And I explain to other knight, I was like, "I know I wouldn't click and I know I wouldn't buy it. And I don't want to even email my list tell them about it because it's not that exciting. How do I structure this in a way that's going to be really exciting?" And so that the problem. This is where I got stuck at. Right. And then, after about three hours of it is when I had the light bulb, I was like, "Oh my gosh." So all of the current Dan Kennedy customers, they love Dan. They're obsessed with them. And actually, this is a fascinating step. You'll appreciate this. Have you read a thousand true fans? Josh: Yeah. I love that book. Russell: It was crazy. So Dan's company was sold initially like 10 years ago, from Bill Glazer sold it. In the last 10 years, they haven't bought a single ad. So that's the attrition of the company, that's been happening. And I'm acquiring it like, "Oh, let's buy some ads." But what's crazy is 10 years since they bought the last ad, there are almost, to a T, it's like 990 something active paid subscribers still on a newsletter a decade later, without any ads at all. A thousand true fans. Is that crazy? Josh: That's insane. Russell: Really? Josh: And you're one of those true fans because you bought the whole company. Russell: Yeah. I thought that was a fascinating side note. So anyway, that's crazy. Like Dan's people love Dan. They love him talking. If they want Dan, but they need funnels. And I'm like, I don't want to come and be the guy who acquires the company and just starts emailing his own offer. I need them to.. I need to indoctrinate them to want it. So it's like, they're going to read Dan's newsletter and how do I bridge that to ClickFunnels? And I'm like, my funnel nerds are going to read his newsletter and be like, "I don't understand. This isn't..." They need it. They don't know they want it yet. If I can indoctrinate them for a while, they'll be like, "Oh my gosh, I get this," but it's going to take a while for them to really respect it enough that they'll get it. I was the same way. First time I heard Kennedy, I was like, "This guy's old, boring, and doesn't relate to what I'm talking about." And after I went deep in, I was like, "Oh my gosh, everything he says is literal. He's handing gold nuggets out." And I was just like, I didn't notice them. Now I'm like, "Oh my gosh." And so I was like, "I need this bridge." And some people know, when I first joined the Kennedy world, we actually launched my first print newsletter right afterwards. It was called The Dot Com Seekers Journal. It morphed from The Dot Com Seekers Journal to eventually call it, The Dot Com Seekers Labs. And then it became a Funnel Report and then it became Funnel University. So I actually ran a print newsletter for 14 years. We shut it down two years ago, but 14 years I ran a print newsletter. Josh: Yeah. I remember when you shut it down actually. Russell: Yeah. And I loved it, but I just, anyway... There's reasons like the person who was publishing it, she had a baby and she retired and all these things. I was just like, "Ah. I'm, I'm focusing ClickFunnels. Don't even worry about this right now." So we shut it down. But I loved that part of it. And I was like, what if I create an offer where the concept, the story, the hook of this whole entire thing is like, "Russell bought Dan company and they're coming together to give you two things like the best foundational direct response in the world. Plus the best in the marketing, the cutting edge, the new things are happening. So you can have both sides. So you understand the foundation you need to be able to survive Facebook slapping you and all these things happening and media shifting and changing. But you also have like what's working today so you can capitalize on things in real time." What if we took those two worlds together? The baby. And so instead of just being like, "You're signing for the new, from the Dan Kennedy newsletter," what if it was like, "Dan Kennedy, Russell Brunson?" Two different newsletters. You get two newsletters for the price of one. I was like, "That's the offer. That's the hook. That's what gets affiliates excited, to get ads excited, everything gets excited around this offer." And then, every mornings at 5:00 in this morning, or 5:00 AM every morning this week, I woke up and I'm writing copy for this page of like, "Okay, here's the hook. They're coming in. And there's Dan and there's Russell." How these things are coming together. And the story behind that, how it worked and then the offer instead of just like, "Here's $697 worth of free stuff," it's like, "you get two newsletters. You get the best direct response, best of Russell, every two weeks." So you get one in the mail and then 14 days later, you get the next one. And you're getting both of these. You get the old and the new but you only pay one price. You get both for the price of one. And then you get all Dan's bonus, all Russell's bonuses. Now becomes this like insane offer where, now, it's like, "I'm excited to mail my list." We bought Dan's company, you get all my best stuff in this to get, and it's this combination. And then affiliates will be excited. It just... And maybe the hook bombs, I don't know. But it gave me the energy, just like, "Okay, now, this is exciting and sexy." And so I can turn that into webinar where it's just like, "Dan Kennedy and Russell Brunson coming together to literally blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever." Like, "Opt in here to find our webinar," and people would opt in because the story, the hook is exciting or I can do a challenge like, "The seven day challenge. Me and Dan are going to go through how to destroy your business and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." And in the end, I'm selling a newsletter or it could be a VSL telling the story with a newsletter or could be... all of them work. The book is the secrets of story. Josh: Well, what it sounds like... Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it sounds like you just created this story about the offer. And now that you know what the offer is, and there's a reason that that came together and like, "That's what it is," now, you understand the story behind that. I'm trying to think of it like an analogy. For example, Disney world. That offer is so good. You're literally going into a different world that pretty much sells itself once you put it out there. And so once you have the story, once you have that idea around what the offer does and how it's unique and how it's it's own unique thing, then you can just take that and then it fills the rest of the funnel. Because everybody wants that thing because now the offer itself is so good. And I think one of the problems that I had, man, for so long is, I was trying to convince people that they wanted my thing be... Or convince people that they had this problem, and then that they wanted this thing, and then I would make them an offer on it. And they wouldn't get to... they wouldn't even know about the offer, or what the offer did, or like anything about it, until like forced or like right before the offer. And they'd be like, "And then I've got this offer? Boo." And because of that, there was no story around it. There's no congruency with it. And so then it was like, "Oh, I didn't even know. That's what I was here for." And then I would like try to sell them something and it wouldn't sell. And I feel like that's the problem that got solved right there, is like first you created the offer and the story around the offer and you made it sexy. And then that made everything else on the funnel super, super easy, because you were just pointing them back to that. Russell: Everything, the funnel plus all the ads. Because now the ads are fun. "Why Dan Kennedy came out of retirement? Dan Kennedy almost died. What's he doing today?" All a sudden, all these hooks that tie into that. "Why did Dan Kennedy partner with the owner ClickFunnels? Why did... Is it true that ClickFunnels was built off the back of all Dan Kennedy principles?" There's so many stories I can tell now that are hooks. That'll grab his people in or my people in or... And then the landing page. And then... It creates everything. And the people that the best in the world of this, and they also make the most money, is Agora. The good Gora publishing. They're selling newsletters. That's all they sell. Right. But every single time they have these insane stories like Porter Stan's got... I think maybe not still, but for like a decade and a half, the highest of all the Agora divisions. I think he'll do like 1.5 or 2 billion dollars a year. Like these are big divisions. Porter's letter one. And, the story was like, "The railroad across America." And it was talking about like, "The original railroad, how it happened and all the people made money along the way. And this is the next railroad that's being built. It's the digital highway and all this stuff." And that offer was selling a newsletter. But it's the story behind it that became this thing that built a billion dollar company. And they're good. They're so good at figuring out the story, those kind of things. And I think sometimes we're like, "Hey, I've created a course in the passed. You should create a course too. I made money. It's going to be awesome." And then like, "You should buy my course creating software or whatever." Like, "That's not the thing." We're so bad at telling stories. We brag about our result. We tell them making the same result and that's it. It's like, no, that's not the key. It's the story. It's the entry. It's the... We want to be entertained. We want to be courted. We want to be... that's the game we're playing in marketing. And so when you figure that out... The offer is actually sexy. And then why is that sexy? The sexiness is not just, "You get a bunch of crap." The sexiness is the story about like how this was created. Josh: Literally what it does that. Russell: That’s the fascinating part. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Catherine Jones. One of her favorite things is, "When your stories become their stories, then your solutions become their solutions." and that's literally what this is. If you can tell them a story where they like it and they're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing," then, go and do it. So for example, Harry Potter world. The story, it... My wife freaking loves Harry Potter world. I mean, that was her thing. When we went down to Funnel Hacking Live, it was like, we were going to take a half a day just to go to Harry Potter world. So we showed up and then it was like, "Hey." Miles is like, "Dude, the buss is leaving for Harry Potter world." There wasn't much convincing that has to be done. The story is, "Oh my gosh, Harry Potter world's amazing. It's Harry Potter. I want it" She wanted that thing because of the story that was leading up to it. There was no, "What's Harry Potter world? Is it any good? What's this?" It's like, "No, it's Harry Potter world." And you're like, "Oh, okay. Yeah, I want it." That's like the story with that. So that's super, super interesting. So where do you see the future of funnels going? Because obviously there's a lot of changes coming with ClickFunnels and ClickFunnels 2.0, which, oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Gusting. Gusting hits me up. Probably... Dude, he probably hits me up once a week and is like, "Hey, guess what? ClickFunnel 2.0 is awesome. And you don't have it." And I'm like, "I heard you. Stop." Russell: He actually built out the magnetic marketing funnel hub right now for me, which is cool. Josh: So, yeah. So anyway, but what's the next evolution? And we don't have really have too much to talk about metaverse and where that goes. But we're entering this new world. I mean, the world is changing very, very, very rapidly. COVID is one of those things that we thought the internet was a big deal, and internet marketing was a big deal, pre-COVID, and then we watch zoom blow up by like 3000% or something like that. And they ruin zoom for us. But anyway, so where are things going that people should be paying attention to and going actually studying and understanding about the future of funnels? Because one of the things that I've been really, really focused on and we're kind of getting dialed in, is community funnels, Specifically, I think for me, one of the things that I've noticed is that it's very, very... It's getting increasingly harder to sell things unless you have a community that's tied with it. And so like for me, one of the things we're focusing on is how do we build funnels inside of our community where our community actually becomes part of the funnel? Which is kind of a cool concept. What do you see as those future things of where funnels are headed, where the big opportunities are going to be? What's the next add to webinar to a 9 97 course? You know what I'm saying? What's the future? Where we're heading? Russell: I hate to make it sound simple, but if I come back to the fundamentals we talked about the beginning of this call. Like Dan Kennedy, whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins. So you look at it through that lens. Went from a product, to an offer, to a funnel. And now with the funnel, I have more ways to make money. And then, from there, the next evolution was like from funnel to value ladder. Right now, it's like, I have a break even funnel and move people up a value ladder and that's how I may lose money or break even on my book funnel, but then my webinar funnel's going to make money or vice versa. Right? Josh: Right. Russell: That was the next phase. And I think, for me, where I'm playing because I'm trying to play for the next 10 years. How do I win this game? We're doing well. I want to.. How do I get a point where, Shopify, or Salesforce is like, "I want to write you a check for 20 billion because you're such annoyance." The way I'm going to do that, for me, is... and it comes back to why did I acquire Magnet Marketing? Why did I buy Brad Callin’s company? Why am I doing this? Because I'm not looking at breakeven funnels anymore. Breakeven funnels, awesome. I'm going one chair back or I'm building breakeven businesses. So magnetic marketing, the only gold magnetic is to break even. The entire company, the value ladder, the coaching, the everything. So every penny made side of magnetic marketing be dumped back into ads, want 100% of the profits dump back into ads. So this company's blowing up. And I get now all these things dumped into my value ladder for ClickFunnels. Like that's it. Voomly doing 40 million a year? Why do we acquire that company? Tons of lead flow. Now, right now there's... it was 10 million dollars a year net profit. All that money now is being dumped directly into lead flow as a breakeven business, to acquire customers for ClickFunnel. So I think it's going deeper. It's looking past... from product to offer, to funnel, to value ladder, to how do I buy or acquire or create something where the only goal of this entire business is just get customers for free that can put into here. And I thing, for me, that's the next level is just like that thought. Josh: You just blew my mind, dude. Holy cow. You're creating an ecosystem, but in a very specific way. It's interesting, as you just told that out, just, "First, it was this. Then, it was this." The thing before it didn't change. That's still part of it. Russell: It's both the same. Yeah. Josh: Right. But it's kind of that next evolution, that next piece of where that comes out. That's fascinating. I think a lot of people need to just really rewind that, go listen to that clip again and let your brain sit on that. Russell: That's how I'm playing the game. Yes. Hopefully I'm four step ahead everyone else, but I'm all for showing that with you guys. And so I just... Again, for everyone to start thinking that, because it's going to get harder. It's going to get more expensive. It's going to get more... We've seen that this year. Ad costs have gone up. It's not going to get cheap. It's not going to bounce back down and be cheaper. It's going to keep doing that. The people who only had a product back in the day are out of business. People only had an offer back in day, they're out of business. People don't have a funnel are out of a business. People don't have a value ladder out of a business. So it's just thinking ahead of that. Metaverse or whatever next step is, doesn't really matter. It's the principle still is the same for me. For 20 years, whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins. Josh: Wins. Russell: How do I do that in a way that serves the customers, brings them in and then... I'll end on this, because it back to what you said. And I did a podcast on this. It's in the facts I got from Dan Kennedy. After the company sold last time, he was super mad at the company that had jacked up his brand and his legacy and stuff. And so like he sent this 25 page facts, like all the things to do to fix it. And there's one paragraph where he said, "There's difference between why customers come in and why they stay." He said, "People think they're the same things." He's like, "No, no, they're different." Why they come in is because they see the hook of like, "Ooh, the scene." They come in from that. They stay for something different. And you have to understand that. So like I had my inner circle meeting, right. Everyone paid 50 grand to be in the room. We had a hundred entrepreneurs in the room and I told them. I said like, "Well, you guys all because you want to learn funnels from Russell." But I'm like, "The reason why you came is not why you were going to stay here. The reason I get sick year, after year, after year is because of the community." That's it. That's why I sat in Dan Kennedy rooms for six years of my life is because the community built and I wanted to be around these people. I came for Dan stuck for the community. And I think that you start understanding that, that's how you get these people to come in on a front end, but they stay and they buy over and over and they stay on continuity. They stick because it's like.. They come in from a hook, but they stay for the something different. And so really understanding that and then weaving everything you're doing like you're doing now with the community funnels, which is perfect. Josh: That's amazing. That's amazing. All right. Well I think that's a good ending point for that topic. Russell: There's episode number two of our hangout today, which was amazing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000 The MOST Important Part of the Funnel (I Guarantee it’s NOT What You Think!) full 468 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What is the future of funnels...? With meta-verse coming, what should we be focused on now!? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody? This is Russell... What is the future of funnels...? With meta-verse coming, what should we be focused on now!? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. I'm back with my co-host Josh Forti. How you doing, man? Josh Forti: I'm doing awesome, man. How are you? Russell: Doing so good. We just recorded a new episode for you guys. This one's all about funnels and I think it went in a different direction you thought it was going to go, didn't it? Josh: Yeah, it did, a little bit. It was super good. Russell: …because the question was like, "What is the next funnel? What's the thing?" And it wasn't a funnel thing, it was something different. So, I think this is an episode you guys can enjoy. Josh: It's tough. Russell: It's been so exciting for me, I literally woke up at 5:00 AM every morning this week because I'm geeking out on the thing that you're going to learn about. And hopefully, it'll help you guys with all your funnels, no matter if you're running a webinar funnel, or a book funnel, or a challenge funnel, or whatever, doesn't really matter. This principle, you can overlay on top of all of them and it'll make them all better. So, that said, should we queue up the theme song? Josh: Let's do it. Russell: Let's go. Josh: Now we got to move into.. I want to move into funnels, dude. This is a topic that continued to come up. So kind of a back story. When we're preparing for this episode, guys like, Russell hit me up and was like, "Do you want to do a podcast together?" And I was like, "Yeah, what do you want to do it on?" He's like, "I don't know, find something." And I'm like, "oh, all right." And so- Russell: "You tell me." Josh: I do what I all always do and I go to the community and I'm like, if the community tells me... I loved Poland's presentation at Funnel Hacking Live it's like, "Ask, go ask your community. What did they tell you?" And so, that's what we did. I went to my Facebook group and I went on my Instagram and luckily, I have a pretty engaged following that will give us lots of feedback back. And this theme that kept coming up was funnels. And obviously, this is your world. But it was interesting because I've been talking with several different higher level people that are like, "How are all the funnels, they made tens of millions of dollars or whatever?" And it's like, "This funnel's not really working anymore. This funnel's kind of working here. This type of funnel is working." And so there's like, I feel like we're in this phase of funnels are almost evolving, where it used to be that you could run an ad to a webinar and sell a 9.97 product, and make a million bucks, and high profit margins, and you can make it work. But I was talking to Dan Henry the other day and he's like, "Dude, I can't even make that work anymore." And he's like, "And I'm brilliant at ads." And like Sam Ovens, I was talking to him the other day- Russell: Dan Henry, "I know everything." I love Dan. Josh: And Sam Ovens was like, "Man, we're probably going to shut down our front-end $2,000 program and we're going to transition up and evolve the way we do funnels." And so, funnels are the thing, obviously. They're going to be around forever, they've been around forever, you popularized them. But I want to go and take this into two parts and see where this goes. But number one, what is the foundation of funnels? What are the things that like... it doesn't matter how it's executed, the funnel itself, this is the thing that works. Because I think a lot of people get confused that... Whenever I talk to a lot of my students that are building funnels, they're like, "Should I do this type or this?" And I'm like, "The core essence of funnels doesn't change," so what are the core essence of funnels? And then two, what is the future of what that looks like rolled out with technology? Because I mean, I know it's not here yet and one of the things we'll talk about, but- Russell: Metaverse. Josh: We got Metaverse. And my wife was like, "Oh my gosh, ask Russell. If I want to be able to walk into Metaverse and Russell's going to be right there being like, "'Hey, do you want to buy my funnel cake,' click this button and you go into a portal. Instead of another page, you enter a new world that is Russell's world, that'd be so cool." But let's start with the foundation of funnels. When someone is building a funnel, when they're looking at it, what are the core pieces that they're actually looking at? Take us back to the foundation of that because I think a lot of people miss that or forget. Russell: Yeah. So, I'll take you back in history back in time so back to my beginning. Think what example I have sitting here on my desk that I can show you. So, the core, the thing you have to understand why funnels are essential, and why they'll always be here, comes back to my favorite Dan Kennedy quote of all time which is, "Whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins." This is the foundation but... Everything else you have understand- Josh: Like 7,000 speakers at Funnel Hacking Live all said that. Russell: Yeah, because it's the thing. In fact, you'll see, if you look at the... And maybe we'll get into this. My next move, what's happening next year for me? I'm looking at this, all ties into that as well. Why did I buy Dan Kennedy's company? Why am I doing these things? And I'll show you it's literally to solve that exact same question. So, when I got started 20 years ago, people didn't have offers yet they just had a product. So, you would be... Just say a book, like, "Okay, here's my book," and I would just sell a product, and that was what I was selling. And it worked for a long time and then guess what? Everyone else is like, "Oh, dude's making money with this product, I can make a product," they make the same product. Now you got 10 people selling a product that's similar. And so, then it's harder to compete because now you're no longer a unique thing, you are a commodity. And anytime you're a commodity, the person with the lowest price always wins. So, as soon as everyone's doing it, you got to drop at the bottom and then you lose your margin and then life sucks because if you don't profit what's the point of what we're doing? So, there's the first phase. So, then the next phase is like, "Okay, well I got a product, everyone's got the same product but how do I turn this from a product into an offer?" That was the first evolution. It's like, "Hey, when you buy my book, you also get my book, but you're also going to get my video course, my audio course, and then my checklist and my..." And all of a sudden you make something truly unique again where it's like, not just a product, but this is my offer that's specific, unique to me, that nobody else has. So that was the next evolution. And we got really good then in making offers that were sexy. It's like, "Oh yeah, everyone's selling this, but mine, if you get mine, you also da da, da, da, these other things." Right? And that's where this whole offer development started happening. In my mind, probably 15 years ago is when this became the thing that we all focused on. And whoever had the best offer was going to win because ads didn't ship that much. It was just like you're competing so now you're competing with six different people or 10 different people. So because that, Google ads AdWords cost went up, because there's 20 people bidding on the same keyword versus just you, initially. Now you're coming in, you make a better offer. Then you get the lion share people buy from you because your offer is the best. That was kind the next phase. And then of course the market evolves. Everyone gets smart. Everyone starts making good offers. Now it's like, maybe they're unique offers, but they're all good offers. Now it's like the market's getting fragmented up again. And so this is where the evolution now of funnels started happening where... And it was before. We didn't have one click up-sales back in the day. But the first thing was like: you buy my potato gun DVD, fill in your credit card, you buy it. The next page, you're like, "Do you want the potato gun kit? Cool. Get your credit card back out and fill it out again." And they'd fill out all the credit card again. Josh: Dang. Russell: But even with that, there's no one-click up-sales, man, like 15, 20, 30% people would buy the second thing. And all of a sudden, I'm selling a potato gun DVD, but I'm making 200 bucks on the back of the kit and nobody else selling potato gun DVDs was doing. I could outspend them all. So even though costs me more per click, I was able to get all the clicks because I made way more money than anybody else. So I was able to dominate the market. And that was kind of the next phase. And what's interesting is that depending on the market you're in, depends on where this is. For example, I'm in a fun phase where I wanted some side projects. So I'm launching a couple supplement companies. The first supplement company launched is called Zooma Juice. It's a green drink company. And some of you guys know, I actually worked with Drew Canole and his team back in the day on Organifi, and helped them launch that when it first came out seven years ago, and helped him build an actual funnel. And what's interesting is because of that... The green drink market is sophisticated. I went and funnel hacked, probably, 30 green drink offers before we built Zooma Juice. And all of them have pretty advanced funnels. Everyone's doing the best practices pretty well. Second company that we are starting, I acquired a bone broth company. And so I took... Got bone broth company and went funnel hacked every bone broth offer. And that market's new. Nobody had a funnel, not one. They have an offer, they have a product, that's it. And I'm like, "I'm walking into virgin funnel territory." We’ll be the biggest bone broth company on the planet in like 30 days? Because there's nobody who understands any of what we're talking about. We'll outspend everybody 10 to 1 because we understand the funnel structure. So depending on what market you're in, some markets haven't even evolved to the funnels yet. Some have, that's exciting. If they have, it's like, "Cool. We got... We can funnel hack. We get good ideas of what's working." If it hasn't like, "Man, you can bring all the stuff we know into these markets and just dominate and destroy them all." It was funny, as we were buying, I was funnel hacking the bone broth offers, I was like, "There's literally not single upsell, order form bump, email sequence. Like nothing." I was just like, "This is like, oh, embarrassing. Almost too easy." That was next phase though. And then to your point, initially it was like... In fact, I remember 10 pre-click funnels. Almost every funnel was the same. It was a video sales letter order button order form upsell one, upsell two, down-sell, down-sell. Thank you, basically. That was what a funnel was. In fact, if you look at, before we launched ClickFunnels, the first T and C event, Ryan Dice and Perry, and they had this whole team event talk about, "Here's the funnel." And they had a funnel and there's only one. And it was just like, "This is the five steps of every funnel." And it fits. It was like trip wire. They had these five steps like trip wire, profit maximizer, and they five or six... They had a name for each page. And it was like, "This is the funnel." And in reality, that was the funnel. There weren't funnels. It was like, "This is a funnel. This is kind of the one." And at the time when I was writing The Dot Com Seekers book and we had been playing with different ones, but there wasn't a lot of this thing out there. Was just kind of like, for the most part, there was a funnel. After ClickFunnels came out and it gave people the ability to create things fast and start innovating, creating ideas, that. And then I was like writing all my ideas in the book and people are doing stuff. It started evolving quickly. Last seven years have evolved where now there's been like a million different funnel things come out, from webinar funnels, auto webinar funnels, high funnels, low ticket funnels, trip wires, SLOs VSLs, challenges, paid challenges, free challenges, challenges to a webinar challenges to high tickets, a webinar to high ticket. There's a billion variations that come from that which probably gets people overwhelming. And so this os what I want to tell them because, this kind of comes back to your first questions, what is it? The reality is, it's going to be shocking for most of you guys, what funnel type you use doesn't really matter. They all work. The thing that matters is the offer. You still have to make the sexiest offer. That's still the most important. We acquired Dan Kennedy's company and we're doing this merger. And like I've spent I podcast episode this morning driving to the office. I've been up every single morning at 5:00 AM because I'm so excited. Because we have a fun, we picked a funnel on structure, we have all of products. I spend a week every morning at 5:00 AM, from 5:00 till like 7:30, when my kids are getting up, in there writing the page for the copy and the offer, and then tweaking and tweaking. That's the thing. The sexiness of the offer that gets people in is the key. So I can get them in, I can use this to get them in a webinar, in a challenge, in a free plus shipping. It doesn't matter. It's like the offer is the thing that puts people in a momentum. And the thing that I'm selling, I could sell it in the webinar. I could sell it in the challenge. I like there's I could sell in all the different funnels. It would fit in all of them. I'm picking the one that I'm using because I think it's going to go... For like the launch campaign, it the one that'll probably get sells the fastest, but it'll work in all of them. And So it's understanding that, it's still coming to the core fundamentals. The funnel structure is the sales process. All of them will work. You just got to figure out better way to sell. Like that's the harder thing that people are missing. Josh: All right. So let's talk... I want to dive into that offer. When you say specifically here... Because I think, and this is just from coaching with a lot of people, the questions that I get asked when I talk about this type of stuff. You talk about the offers, the sexy thing, but how does the offer affect getting somebody to opt in? How does the offer affect my ad? How does the offer affect the training? I don't show my offer until the end after the whole thing. So how does that affect every other step of the funnel? Russell: Okay, great question. So if I can see one here. Right, sorry. I had all the examples here a second ago. Oh, well. I'll just tell you the story. So when Dan Kennedy started his newsletter, in the Dan Kennedy company, the newsletter's the foundation of everything. And we could do a whole podcast episode just on psychology of the original GKIC, when Bill Glazer was running it with Dan. But the newsletter- Josh: Sounds like a sexy topic. Russell: Yeah. It'd be really fun, actually. I love... In fact, it's funny because I spent so much time with Bill Glazer geeking out about. I knew their business really well. And when that they sold it the very first time people bought it and didn't understand the business. And I saw within weeks of them destroying the foundation, I was like, "You guys literally don't know what you bought. You should have asked some questions before you wrote a check that big anyway." But the core is the newsletter. And so I had a chance to go back in the archives. I literally... they gave me, "Here's Google drive. Everything's ever been created." So I'm like, "This is... It's insane." for nerdy Russell, everything Dan's ever said is in this drive. And most of it, no one's ever seen before, so I'm freaking out. But the newsletter started back in like 1995 ish. I was like 15 years old when it started and it was just a newsletter. That's all it was right. It's like a product. That's how they sold it. And from '95 till I think I was probably 23, 24. So, 2004, 2005 ish was when Bill Glazer bought out the company from Dan and kind of ran it, and then they launched it. Instead of a newsletter, they launched it as an offer. And the offer at the time... I still remember the day it happened because I got like 400 emails from my Yanik Silver and all the different gurus at the time. They all started emailing about this Dan Kennedy offer. And it was called the most incredible free gift ever. And in fact, internally in the company called the MIFGE offer, M-I-F-G-E, the most incredible free gift ever. And what it was, it was like, "Hey, when you sign up for magnetic marketing net letter, what you're going to get is you're going to get..." I think it's like, "$639.93 for the money making material from Dan Kennedy himself." So it was like, "We'll give you all this cool stuff when you sign up for the newsletter." And it was the bribe. It's kind of like, if you guys remember back in the day, sports illustrator. It's really hard to sell sports illustrated issues. So what they would do is they would have TV commercials were like, "Here's sports illustrator, 12 issues year about the best sports. When you sign up today, we're going to give you..." And then they had their version of the most incredible free gift offer. It was this huge football clock and the sports illustrator swimsuit issue. That was the MIFGE offer for sports illustrator. And so Dan had their... They had their MIFGE offer, and they went from having five or 600 subscribers at that time to... Bill built it up to over, I don't know, 10, 15, 20. I don't know how big it got it as peak, but 10,000 plus members. And it was because they took a newsletter and they made it an offer. And that's how they launched initially. And so the MIFGE is how they did it. Now, fast forward to Russell gets access to all this stuff. I'm like, "This is amazing." So I'm trying to sit... I sat down Monday morning. No, sorry. It was last Saturday. Saturday. I wanted to write... I didn't want to do all the pages in the offer. So I have some of my team do the upsells and down-sells. I was like, "The landing page, this is mine." I want to write because I want to make sure I get the offer right and everything. Because this is... everything hinges on this. The landing page is broken, nothing works. And so I went and I funnel hacked. I every newsletter, sales letter, I could find throughout time. I just went deep in my archives, way back machine. People I knew who publishing newsletters, looked at every variation of theirs for the last 10 years. I totally geeked out like Russell does. Funnel hacking. I want to understand how people are structuring their newsletter offers. Gore's got a ton of them. So I'm looking at tons of them and everyone I looked at, I come back to like the Dan Kennedy one I'm like this offers just not sexy. More like $630 of money making information sounded cool in 2003. But today, it's like every opt-in, people are giving a thousand dollars worth of free crap. It wasn't that sexy- Josh: Right. Inflation, baby. Oh my word. Russell: Yeah. And then I'm like, "Now my funnel nerds are going to go and they're going to sign for this newsletter, and they're going to get this newsletter from Dan. He's talking about direct mail and faxing. And they're going to be confused and they're going to cancel." I have this weird opportunity. I was like, "This is just not the right thing." And I was like, "How do I make this sexy excited? How do I get myself excited to email about it?" And then Dan's email. I got to get affiliates on board and other people. How do I make this sexy so that I can create the noise? So that when there's an ad, there's a good enough hook in the ad that people are going to click? Because if the ads like, "Old marketing, grumpy marketing genius is going to give you 300 or $639 money making material for free when you join this newsletter," no one's going to click on that. The hook sucks now. It was good in 2003, horrible in 2021. And so I'm like sitting there and I spent three hours just going to yourself. And I was like, no matter how I tried, the offer just didn't feel right. And I explain to other knight, I was like, "I know I wouldn't click and I know I wouldn't buy it. And I don't want to even email my list tell them about it because it's not that exciting. How do I structure this in a way that's going to be really exciting?" And so that the problem. This is where I got stuck at. Right. And then, after about three hours of it is when I had the light bulb, I was like, "Oh my gosh." So all of the current Dan Kennedy customers, they love Dan. They're obsessed with them. And actually, this is a fascinating step. You'll appreciate this. Have you read a thousand true fans? Josh: Yeah. I love that book. Russell: It was crazy. So Dan's company was sold initially like 10 years ago, from Bill Glazer sold it. In the last 10 years, they haven't bought a single ad. So that's the attrition of the company, that's been happening. And I'm acquiring it like, "Oh, let's buy some ads." But what's crazy is 10 years since they bought the last ad, there are almost, to a T, it's like 990 something active paid subscribers still on a newsletter a decade later, without any ads at all. A thousand true fans. Is that crazy? Josh: That's insane. Russell: Really? Josh: And you're one of those true fans because you bought the whole company. Russell: Yeah. I thought that was a fascinating side note. So anyway, that's crazy. Like Dan's people love Dan. They love him talking. If they want Dan, but they need funnels. And I'm like, I don't want to come and be the guy who acquires the company and just starts emailing his own offer. I need them to.. I need to indoctrinate them to want it. So it's like, they're going to read Dan's newsletter and how do I bridge that to ClickFunnels? And I'm like, my funnel nerds are going to read his newsletter and be like, "I don't understand. This isn't..." They need it. They don't know they want it yet. If I can indoctrinate them for a while, they'll be like, "Oh my gosh, I get this," but it's going to take a while for them to really respect it enough that they'll get it. I was the same way. First time I heard Kennedy, I was like, "This guy's old, boring, and doesn't relate to what I'm talking about." And after I went deep in, I was like, "Oh my gosh, everything he says is literal. He's handing gold nuggets out." And I was just like, I didn't notice them. Now I'm like, "Oh my gosh." And so I was like, "I need this bridge." And some people know, when I first joined the Kennedy world, we actually launched my first print newsletter right afterwards. It was called The Dot Com Seekers Journal. It morphed from The Dot Com Seekers Journal to eventually call it, The Dot Com Seekers Labs. And then it became a Funnel Report and then it became Funnel University. So I actually ran a print newsletter for 14 years. We shut it down two years ago, but 14 years I ran a print newsletter. Josh: Yeah. I remember when you shut it down actually. Russell: Yeah. And I loved it, but I just, anyway... There's reasons like the person who was publishing it, she had a baby and she retired and all these things. I was just like, "Ah. I'm, I'm focusing ClickFunnels. Don't even worry about this right now." So we shut it down. But I loved that part of it. And I was like, what if I create an offer where the concept, the story, the hook of this whole entire thing is like, "Russell bought Dan company and they're coming together to give you two things like the best foundational direct response in the world. Plus the best in the marketing, the cutting edge, the new things are happening. So you can have both sides. So you understand the foundation you need to be able to survive Facebook slapping you and all these things happening and media shifting and changing. But you also have like what's working today so you can capitalize on things in real time." What if we took those two worlds together? The baby. And so instead of just being like, "You're signing for the new, from the Dan Kennedy newsletter," what if it was like, "Dan Kennedy, Russell Brunson?" Two different newsletters. You get two newsletters for the price of one. I was like, "That's the offer. That's the hook. That's what gets affiliates excited, to get ads excited, everything gets excited around this offer." And then, every mornings at 5:00 in this morning, or 5:00 AM every morning this week, I woke up and I'm writing copy for this page of like, "Okay, here's the hook. They're coming in. And there's Dan and there's Russell." How these things are coming together. And the story behind that, how it worked and then the offer instead of just like, "Here's $697 worth of free stuff," it's like, "you get two newsletters. You get the best direct response, best of Russell, every two weeks." So you get one in the mail and then 14 days later, you get the next one. And you're getting both of these. You get the old and the new but you only pay one price. You get both for the price of one. And then you get all Dan's bonus, all Russell's bonuses. Now becomes this like insane offer where, now, it's like, "I'm excited to mail my list." We bought Dan's company, you get all my best stuff in this to get, and it's this combination. And then affiliates will be excited. It just... And maybe the hook bombs, I don't know. But it gave me the energy, just like, "Okay, now, this is exciting and sexy." And so I can turn that into webinar where it's just like, "Dan Kennedy and Russell Brunson coming together to literally blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever." Like, "Opt in here to find our webinar," and people would opt in because the story, the hook is exciting or I can do a challenge like, "The seven day challenge. Me and Dan are going to go through how to destroy your business and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." And in the end, I'm selling a newsletter or it could be a VSL telling the story with a newsletter or could be... all of them work. The book is the secrets of story. Josh: Well, what it sounds like... Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it sounds like you just created this story about the offer. And now that you know what the offer is, and there's a reason that that came together and like, "That's what it is," now, you understand the story behind that. I'm trying to think of it like an analogy. For example, Disney world. That offer is so good. You're literally going into a different world that pretty much sells itself once you put it out there. And so once you have the story, once you have that idea around what the offer does and how it's unique and how it's it's own unique thing, then you can just take that and then it fills the rest of the funnel. Because everybody wants that thing because now the offer itself is so good. And I think one of the problems that I had, man, for so long is, I was trying to convince people that they wanted my thing be... Or convince people that they had this problem, and then that they wanted this thing, and then I would make them an offer on it. And they wouldn't get to... they wouldn't even know about the offer, or what the offer did, or like anything about it, until like forced or like right before the offer. And they'd be like, "And then I've got this offer? Boo." And because of that, there was no story around it. There's no congruency with it. And so then it was like, "Oh, I didn't even know. That's what I was here for." And then I would like try to sell them something and it wouldn't sell. And I feel like that's the problem that got solved right there, is like first you created the offer and the story around the offer and you made it sexy. And then that made everything else on the funnel super, super easy, because you were just pointing them back to that. Russell: Everything, the funnel plus all the ads. Because now the ads are fun. "Why Dan Kennedy came out of retirement? Dan Kennedy almost died. What's he doing today?" All a sudden, all these hooks that tie into that. "Why did Dan Kennedy partner with the owner ClickFunnels? Why did... Is it true that ClickFunnels was built off the back of all Dan Kennedy principles?" There's so many stories I can tell now that are hooks. That'll grab his people in or my people in or... And then the landing page. And then... It creates everything. And the people that the best in the world of this, and they also make the most money, is Agora. The good Gora publishing. They're selling newsletters. That's all they sell. Right. But every single time they have these insane stories like Porter Stan's got... I think maybe not still, but for like a decade and a half, the highest of all the Agora divisions. I think he'll do like 1.5 or 2 billion dollars a year. Like these are big divisions. Porter's letter one. And, the story was like, "The railroad across America." And it was talking about like, "The original railroad, how it happened and all the people made money along the way. And this is the next railroad that's being built. It's the digital highway and all this stuff." And that offer was selling a newsletter. But it's the story behind it that became this thing that built a billion dollar company. And they're good. They're so good at figuring out the story, those kind of things. And I think sometimes we're like, "Hey, I've created a course in the passed. You should create a course too. I made money. It's going to be awesome." And then like, "You should buy my course creating software or whatever." Like, "That's not the thing." We're so bad at telling stories. We brag about our result. We tell them making the same result and that's it. It's like, no, that's not the key. It's the story. It's the entry. It's the... We want to be entertained. We want to be courted. We want to be... that's the game we're playing in marketing. And so when you figure that out... The offer is actually sexy. And then why is that sexy? The sexiness is not just, "You get a bunch of crap." The sexiness is the story about like how this was created. Josh: Literally what it does that. Russell: That’s the fascinating part. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Catherine Jones. One of her favorite things is, "When your stories become their stories, then your solutions become their solutions." and that's literally what this is. If you can tell them a story where they like it and they're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing," then, go and do it. So for example, Harry Potter world. The story, it... My wife freaking loves Harry Potter world. I mean, that was her thing. When we went down to Funnel Hacking Live, it was like, we were going to take a half a day just to go to Harry Potter world. So we showed up and then it was like, "Hey." Miles is like, "Dude, the buss is leaving for Harry Potter world." There wasn't much convincing that has to be done. The story is, "Oh my gosh, Harry Potter world's amazing. It's Harry Potter. I want it" She wanted that thing because of the story that was leading up to it. There was no, "What's Harry Potter world? Is it any good? What's this?" It's like, "No, it's Harry Potter world." And you're like, "Oh, okay. Yeah, I want it." That's like the story with that. So that's super, super interesting. So where do you see the future of funnels going? Because obviously there's a lot of changes coming with ClickFunnels and ClickFunnels 2.0, which, oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Gusting. Gusting hits me up. Probably... Dude, he probably hits me up once a week and is like, "Hey, guess what? ClickFunnel 2.0 is awesome. And you don't have it." And I'm like, "I heard you. Stop." Russell: He actually built out the magnetic marketing funnel hub right now for me, which is cool. Josh: So, yeah. So anyway, but what's the next evolution? And we don't have really have too much to talk about metaverse and where that goes. But we're entering this new world. I mean, the world is changing very, very, very rapidly. COVID is one of those things that we thought the internet was a big deal, and internet marketing was a big deal, pre-COVID, and then we watch zoom blow up by like 3000% or something like that. And they ruin zoom for us. But anyway, so where are things going that people should be paying attention to and going actually studying and understanding about the future of funnels? Because one of the things that I've been really, really focused on and we're kind of getting dialed in, is community funnels, Specifically, I think for me, one of the things that I've noticed is that it's very, very... It's getting increasingly harder to sell things unless you have a community that's tied with it. And so like for me, one of the things we're focusing on is how do we build funnels inside of our community where our community actually becomes part of the funnel? Which is kind of a cool concept. What do you see as those future things of where funnels are headed, where the big opportunities are going to be? What's the next add to webinar to a 9 97 course? You know what I'm saying? What's the future? Where we're heading? Russell: I hate to make it sound simple, but if I come back to the fundamentals we talked about the beginning of this call. Like Dan Kennedy, whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins. So you look at it through that lens. Went from a product, to an offer, to a funnel. And now with the funnel, I have more ways to make money. And then, from there, the next evolution was like from funnel to value ladder. Right now, it's like, I have a break even funnel and move people up a value ladder and that's how I may lose money or break even on my book funnel, but then my webinar funnel's going to make money or vice versa. Right? Josh: Right. Russell: That was the next phase. And I think, for me, where I'm playing because I'm trying to play for the next 10 years. How do I win this game? We're doing well. I want to.. How do I get a point where, Shopify, or Salesforce is like, "I want to write you a check for 20 billion because you're such annoyance." The way I'm going to do that, for me, is... and it comes back to why did I acquire Magnet Marketing? Why did I buy Brad Callin’s company? Why am I doing this? Because I'm not looking at breakeven funnels anymore. Breakeven funnels, awesome. I'm going one chair back or I'm building breakeven businesses. So magnetic marketing, the only gold magnetic is to break even. The entire company, the value ladder, the coaching, the everything. So every penny made side of magnetic marketing be dumped back into ads, want 100% of the profits dump back into ads. So this company's blowing up. And I get now all these things dumped into my value ladder for ClickFunnels. Like that's it. Voomly doing 40 million a year? Why do we acquire that company? Tons of lead flow. Now, right now there's... it was 10 million dollars a year net profit. All that money now is being dumped directly into lead flow as a breakeven business, to acquire customers for ClickFunnel. So I think it's going deeper. It's looking past... from product to offer, to funnel, to value ladder, to how do I buy or acquire or create something where the only goal of this entire business is just get customers for free that can put into here. And I thing, for me, that's the next level is just like that thought. Josh: You just blew my mind, dude. Holy cow. You're creating an ecosystem, but in a very specific way. It's interesting, as you just told that out, just, "First, it was this. Then, it was this." The thing before it didn't change. That's still part of it. Russell: It's both the same. Yeah. Josh: Right. But it's kind of that next evolution, that next piece of where that comes out. That's fascinating. I think a lot of people need to just really rewind that, go listen to that clip again and let your brain sit on that. Russell: That's how I'm playing the game. Yes. Hopefully I'm four step ahead everyone else, but I'm all for showing that with you guys. And so I just... Again, for everyone to start thinking that, because it's going to get harder. It's going to get more expensive. It's going to get more... We've seen that this year. Ad costs have gone up. It's not going to get cheap. It's not going to bounce back down and be cheaper. It's going to keep doing that. The people who only had a product back in the day are out of business. People only had an offer back in day, they're out of business. People don't have a funnel are out of a business. People don't have a value ladder out of a business. So it's just thinking ahead of that. Metaverse or whatever next step is, doesn't really matter. It's the principle still is the same for me. For 20 years, whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins. Josh: Wins. Russell: How do I do that in a way that serves the customers, brings them in and then... I'll end on this, because it back to what you said. And I did a podcast on this. It's in the facts I got from Dan Kennedy. After the company sold last time, he was super mad at the company that had jacked up his brand and his legacy and stuff. And so like he sent this 25 page facts, like all the things to do to fix it. And there's one paragraph where he said, "There's difference between why customers come in and why they stay." He said, "People think they're the same things." He's like, "No, no, they're different." Why they come in is because they see the hook of like, "Ooh, the scene." They come in from that. They stay for something different. And you have to understand that. So like I had my inner circle meeting, right. Everyone paid 50 grand to be in the room. We had a hundred entrepreneurs in the room and I told them. I said like, "Well, you guys all because you want to learn funnels from Russell." But I'm like, "The reason why you came is not why you were going to stay here. The reason I get sick year, after year, after year is because of the community." That's it. That's why I sat in Dan Kennedy rooms for six years of my life is because the community built and I wanted to be around these people. I came for Dan stuck for the community. And I think that you start understanding that, that's how you get these people to come in on a front end, but they stay and they buy over and over and they stay on continuity. They stick because it's like.. They come in from a hook, but they stay for the something different. And so really understanding that and then weaving everything you're doing like you're doing now with the community funnels, which is perfect. Josh: That's amazing. That's amazing. All right. Well I think that's a good ending point for that topic. Russell: There's episode number two of our hangout today, which was amazing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What is the future of funnels...? With meta-verse coming, what should we be focused on now!?

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Russell Brunson:

What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. I'm back with my co-host Josh Forti. How you doing, man?

Josh Forti:

I'm doing awesome, man. How are you?

Russell:

Doing so good. We just recorded a new episode for you guys. This one's all about funnels and I think it went in a different direction you thought it was going to go, didn't it?

Josh:

Yeah, it did, a little bit. It was super good.

Russell:

…because the question was like, "What is the next funnel? What's the thing?" And it wasn't a funnel thing, it was something different. So, I think this is an episode you guys can enjoy.

Josh:

It's tough.

Russell:

It's been so exciting for me, I literally woke up at 5:00 AM every morning this week because I'm geeking out on the thing that you're going to learn about. And hopefully, it'll help you guys with all your funnels, no matter if you're running a webinar funnel, or a book funnel, or a challenge funnel, or whatever, doesn't really matter. This principle, you can overlay on top of all of them and it'll make them all better. So, that said, should we queue up the theme song?

Josh:

Let's do it.

Russell:

Let's go.

Josh:

Now we got to move into.. I want to move into funnels, dude. This is a topic that continued to come up. So kind of a back story. When we're preparing for this episode, guys like, Russell hit me up and was like, "Do you want to do a podcast together?" And I was like, "Yeah, what do you want to do it on?" He's like, "I don't know, find something." And I'm like, "oh, all right." And so-

Russell:

"You tell me."

Josh:

I do what I all always do and I go to the community and I'm like, if the community tells me... I loved Poland's presentation at Funnel Hacking Live it's like, "Ask, go ask your community. What did they tell you?" And so, that's what we did. I went to my Facebook group and I went on my Instagram and luckily, I have a pretty engaged following that will give us lots of feedback back. And this theme that kept coming up was funnels. And obviously, this is your world. But it was interesting because I've been talking with several different higher level people that are like, "How are all the funnels, they made tens of millions of dollars or whatever?"

And it's like, "This funnel's not really working anymore. This funnel's kind of working here. This type of funnel is working." And so there's like, I feel like we're in this phase of funnels are almost evolving, where it used to be that you could run an ad to a webinar and sell a 9.97 product, and make a million bucks, and high profit margins, and you can make it work. But I was talking to Dan Henry the other day and he's like, "Dude, I can't even make that work anymore." And he's like, "And I'm brilliant at ads." And like Sam Ovens, I was talking to him the other day-

Russell:

Dan Henry, "I know everything." I love Dan.

Josh:

And Sam Ovens was like, "Man, we're probably going to shut down our front-end $2,000 program and we're going to transition up and evolve the way we do funnels." And so, funnels are the thing, obviously. They're going to be around forever, they've been around forever, you popularized them. But I want to go and take this into two parts and see where this goes.

But number one, what is the foundation of funnels? What are the things that like... it doesn't matter how it's executed, the funnel itself, this is the thing that works. Because I think a lot of people get confused that...

Whenever I talk to a lot of my students that are building funnels, they're like, "Should I do this type or this?" And I'm like, "The core essence of funnels doesn't change," so what are the core essence of funnels?

And then two, what is the future of what that looks like rolled out with technology? Because I mean, I know it's not here yet and one of the things we'll talk about, but-

Russell:

Metaverse.

Josh:

We got Metaverse. And my wife was like, "Oh my gosh, ask Russell. If I want to be able to walk into Metaverse and Russell's going to be right there being like, "'Hey, do you want to buy my funnel cake,' click this button and you go into a portal. Instead of another page, you enter a new world that is Russell's world, that'd be so cool."

But let's start with the foundation of funnels. When someone is building a funnel, when they're looking at it, what are the core pieces that they're actually looking at? Take us back to the foundation of that because I think a lot of people miss that or forget.

Russell:

Yeah. So, I'll take you back in history back in time so back to my beginning. Think what example I have sitting here on my desk that I can show you. So, the core, the thing you have to understand why funnels are essential, and why they'll always be here, comes back to my favorite Dan Kennedy quote of all time which is, "Whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins." This is the foundation but... Everything else you have understand-

Josh:

Like 7,000 speakers at Funnel Hacking Live all said that.

Russell:

Yeah, because it's the thing. In fact, you'll see, if you look at the... And maybe we'll get into this. My next move, what's happening next year for me? I'm looking at this, all ties into that as well. Why did I buy Dan Kennedy's company? Why am I doing these things? And I'll show you it's literally to solve that exact same question.

So, when I got started 20 years ago, people didn't have offers yet they just had a product. So, you would be... Just say a book, like, "Okay, here's my book," and I would just sell a product, and that was what I was selling. And it worked for a long time and then guess what? Everyone else is like, "Oh, dude's making money with this product, I can make a product," they make the same product. Now you got 10 people selling a product that's similar.

And so, then it's harder to compete because now you're no longer a unique thing, you are a commodity. And anytime you're a commodity, the person with the lowest price always wins. So, as soon as everyone's doing it, you got to drop at the bottom and then you lose your margin and then life sucks because if you don't profit what's the point of what we're doing?

So, there's the first phase. So, then the next phase is like, "Okay, well I got a product, everyone's got the same product but how do I turn this from a product into an offer?" That was the first evolution. It's like, "Hey, when you buy my book, you also get my book, but you're also going to get my video course, my audio course, and then my checklist and my..." And all of a sudden you make something truly unique again where it's like, not just a product, but this is my offer that's specific, unique to me, that nobody else has.

So that was the next evolution. And we got really good then in making offers that were sexy. It's like, "Oh yeah, everyone's selling this, but mine, if you get mine, you also da da, da, da, these other things." Right? And that's where this whole offer development started happening. In my mind, probably 15 years ago is when this became the thing that we all focused on. And whoever had the best offer was going to win because ads didn't ship that much. It was just like you're competing so now you're competing with six different people or 10 different people. So because that, Google ads AdWords cost went up, because there's 20 people bidding on the same keyword versus just you, initially. Now you're coming in, you make a better offer. Then you get the lion share people buy from you because your offer is the best.

That was kind the next phase. And then of course the market evolves. Everyone gets smart. Everyone starts making good offers. Now it's like, maybe they're unique offers, but they're all good offers. Now it's like the market's getting fragmented up again.

And so this is where the evolution now of funnels started happening where... And it was before. We didn't have one click up-sales back in the day. But the first thing was like: you buy my potato gun DVD, fill in your credit card, you buy it. The next page, you're like, "Do you want the potato gun kit? Cool. Get your credit card back out and fill it out again." And they'd fill out all the credit card again.

Josh:

Dang.

Russell:

But even with that, there's no one-click up-sales, man, like 15, 20, 30% people would buy the second thing.

And all of a sudden, I'm selling a potato gun DVD, but I'm making 200 bucks on the back of the kit and nobody else selling potato gun DVDs was doing. I could outspend them all. So even though costs me more per click, I was able to get all the clicks because I made way more money than anybody else. So I was able to dominate the market.

And that was kind of the next phase. And what's interesting is that depending on the market you're in, depends on where this is. For example, I'm in a fun phase where I wanted some side projects. So I'm launching a couple supplement companies. The first supplement company launched is called Zooma Juice. It's a green drink company. And some of you guys know, I actually worked with Drew Canole and his team back in the day on Organifi, and helped them launch that when it first came out seven years ago, and helped him build an actual funnel.

And what's interesting is because of that... The green drink market is sophisticated. I went and funnel hacked, probably, 30 green drink offers before we built Zooma Juice. And all of them have pretty advanced funnels. Everyone's doing the best practices pretty well. Second company that we are starting, I acquired a bone broth company. And so I took... Got bone broth company and went funnel hacked every bone broth offer. And that market's new. Nobody had a funnel, not one. They have an offer, they have a product, that's it. And I'm like, "I'm walking into virgin funnel territory." We’ll be the biggest bone broth company on the planet in like 30 days? Because there's nobody who understands any of what we're talking about. We'll outspend everybody 10 to 1 because we understand the funnel structure. So depending on what market you're in, some markets haven't even evolved to the funnels yet.

Some have, that's exciting. If they have, it's like, "Cool. We got... We can funnel hack. We get good ideas of what's working." If it hasn't like, "Man, you can bring all the stuff we know into these markets and just dominate and destroy them all." It was funny, as we were buying, I was funnel hacking the bone broth offers, I was like, "There's literally not single upsell, order form bump, email sequence. Like nothing." I was just like, "This is like, oh, embarrassing. Almost too easy."

That was next phase though. And then to your point, initially it was like... In fact, I remember 10 pre-click funnels. Almost every funnel was the same. It was a video sales letter order button order form upsell one, upsell two, down-sell, down-sell. Thank you, basically. That was what a funnel was. In fact, if you look at, before we launched ClickFunnels, the first T and C event, Ryan Dice and Perry, and they had this whole team event talk about, "Here's the funnel." And they had a funnel and there's only one. And it was just like, "This is the five steps of every funnel." And it fits. It was like trip wire.

They had these five steps like trip wire, profit maximizer, and they five or six... They had a name for each page. And it was like, "This is the funnel." And in reality, that was the funnel. There weren't funnels. It was like, "This is a funnel. This is kind of the one." And at the time when I was writing The Dot Com Seekers book and we had been playing with different ones, but there wasn't a lot of this thing out there. Was just kind of like, for the most part, there was a funnel. After ClickFunnels came out and it gave people the ability to create things fast and start innovating, creating ideas, that. And then I was like writing all my ideas in the book and people are doing stuff.

It started evolving quickly. Last seven years have evolved where now there's been like a million different funnel things come out, from webinar funnels, auto webinar funnels, high funnels, low ticket funnels, trip wires, SLOs VSLs, challenges, paid challenges, free challenges, challenges to a webinar challenges to high tickets, a webinar to high ticket. There's a billion variations that come from that which probably gets people overwhelming.

And so this os what I want to tell them because, this kind of comes back to your first questions, what is it? The reality is, it's going to be shocking for most of you guys, what funnel type you use doesn't really matter. They all work. The thing that matters is the offer. You still have to make the sexiest offer. That's still the most important. We acquired Dan Kennedy's company and we're doing this merger.

And like I've spent I podcast episode this morning driving to the office. I've been up every single morning at 5:00 AM because I'm so excited. Because we have a fun, we picked a funnel on structure, we have all of products. I spend a week every morning at 5:00 AM, from 5:00 till like 7:30, when my kids are getting up, in there writing the page for the copy and the offer, and then tweaking and tweaking. That's the thing. The sexiness of the offer that gets people in is the key. So I can get them in, I can use this to get them in a webinar, in a challenge, in a free plus shipping. It doesn't matter. It's like the offer is the thing that puts people in a momentum.

And the thing that I'm selling, I could sell it in the webinar. I could sell it in the challenge. I like there's I could sell in all the different funnels. It would fit in all of them. I'm picking the one that I'm using because I think it's going to go... For like the launch campaign, it the one that'll probably get sells the fastest, but it'll work in all of them. And So it's understanding that, it's still coming to the core fundamentals. The funnel structure is the sales process. All of them will work. You just got to figure out better way to sell. Like that's the harder thing that people are missing.

Josh:

All right. So let's talk... I want to dive into that offer. When you say specifically here... Because I think, and this is just from coaching with a lot of people, the questions that I get asked when I talk about this type of stuff. You talk about the offers, the sexy thing, but how does the offer affect getting somebody to opt in? How does the offer affect my ad? How does the offer affect the training? I don't show my offer until the end after the whole thing. So how does that affect every other step of the funnel?

Russell:

Okay, great question. So if I can see one here. Right, sorry. I had all the examples here a second ago. Oh, well. I'll just tell you the story. So when Dan Kennedy started his newsletter, in the Dan Kennedy company, the newsletter's the foundation of everything. And we could do a whole podcast episode just on psychology of the original GKIC, when Bill Glazer was running it with Dan. But the newsletter-

Josh:

Sounds like a sexy topic.

Russell:

Yeah. It'd be really fun, actually. I love... In fact, it's funny because I spent so much time with Bill Glazer geeking out about. I knew their business really well. And when that they sold it the very first time people bought it and didn't understand the business. And I saw within weeks of them destroying the foundation, I was like, "You guys literally don't know what you bought. You should have asked some questions before you wrote a check that big anyway."

But the core is the newsletter. And so I had a chance to go back in the archives. I literally... they gave me, "Here's Google drive. Everything's ever been created." So I'm like, "This is... It's insane." for nerdy Russell, everything Dan's ever said is in this drive. And most of it, no one's ever seen before, so I'm freaking out.

But the newsletter started back in like 1995 ish. I was like 15 years old when it started and it was just a newsletter. That's all it was right. It's like a product. That's how they sold it. And from '95 till I think I was probably 23, 24. So, 2004, 2005 ish was when Bill Glazer bought out the company from Dan and kind of ran it, and then they launched it. Instead of a newsletter, they launched it as an offer. And the offer at the time...

I still remember the day it happened because I got like 400 emails from my Yanik Silver and all the different gurus at the time. They all started emailing about this Dan Kennedy offer. And it was called the most incredible free gift ever. And in fact, internally in the company called the MIFGE offer, M-I-F-G-E, the most incredible free gift ever.

And what it was, it was like, "Hey, when you sign up for magnetic marketing net letter, what you're going to get is you're going to get..." I think it's like, "$639.93 for the money making material from Dan Kennedy himself." So it was like, "We'll give you all this cool stuff when you sign up for the newsletter." And it was the bribe. It's kind of like, if you guys remember back in the day, sports illustrator. It's really hard to sell sports illustrated issues. So what they would do is they would have TV commercials were like, "Here's sports illustrator, 12 issues year about the best sports. When you sign up today, we're going to give you..."

And then they had their version of the most incredible free gift offer. It was this huge football clock and the sports illustrator swimsuit issue. That was the MIFGE offer for sports illustrator. And so Dan had their... They had their MIFGE offer, and they went from having five or 600 subscribers at that time to... Bill built it up to over, I don't know, 10, 15, 20. I don't know how big it got it as peak, but 10,000 plus members. And it was because they took a newsletter and they made it an offer. And that's how they launched initially. And so the MIFGE is how they did it.

Now, fast forward to Russell gets access to all this stuff. I'm like, "This is amazing." So I'm trying to sit... I sat down Monday morning. No, sorry. It was last Saturday. Saturday. I wanted to write... I didn't want to do all the pages in the offer. So I have some of my team do the upsells and down-sells. I was like, "The landing page, this is mine." I want to write because I want to make sure I get the offer right and everything. Because this is... everything hinges on this. The landing page is broken, nothing works.

And so I went and I funnel hacked. I every newsletter, sales letter, I could find throughout time. I just went deep in my archives, way back machine. People I knew who publishing newsletters, looked at every variation of theirs for the last 10 years. I totally geeked out like Russell does. Funnel hacking. I want to understand how people are structuring their newsletter offers. Gore's got a ton of them. So I'm looking at tons of them and everyone I looked at, I come back to like the Dan Kennedy one I'm like this offers just not sexy.

More like $630 of money making information sounded cool in 2003. But today, it's like every opt-in, people are giving a thousand dollars worth of free crap. It wasn't that sexy-

Josh:

Right. Inflation, baby. Oh my word.

Russell:

Yeah. And then I'm like, "Now my funnel nerds are going to go and they're going to sign for this newsletter, and they're going to get this newsletter from Dan. He's talking about direct mail and faxing. And they're going to be confused and they're going to cancel." I have this weird opportunity. I was like, "This is just not the right thing." And I was like, "How do I make this sexy excited? How do I get myself excited to email about it?" And then Dan's email. I got to get affiliates on board and other people. How do I make this sexy so that I can create the noise? So that when there's an ad, there's a good enough hook in the ad that people are going to click?

Because if the ads like, "Old marketing, grumpy marketing genius is going to give you 300 or $639 money making material for free when you join this newsletter," no one's going to click on that. The hook sucks now. It was good in 2003, horrible in 2021.

And so I'm like sitting there and I spent three hours just going to yourself. And I was like, no matter how I tried, the offer just didn't feel right. And I explain to other knight, I was like, "I know I wouldn't click and I know I wouldn't buy it. And I don't want to even email my list tell them about it because it's not that exciting. How do I structure this in a way that's going to be really exciting?" And so that the problem. This is where I got stuck at.

Right. And then, after about three hours of it is when I had the light bulb, I was like, "Oh my gosh." So all of the current Dan Kennedy customers, they love Dan. They're obsessed with them. And actually, this is a fascinating step. You'll appreciate this. Have you read a thousand true fans?

Josh:

Yeah. I love that book.

Russell:

It was crazy. So Dan's company was sold initially like 10 years ago, from Bill Glazer sold it. In the last 10 years, they haven't bought a single ad. So that's the attrition of the company, that's been happening. And I'm acquiring it like, "Oh, let's buy some ads." But what's crazy is 10 years since they bought the last ad, there are almost, to a T, it's like 990 something active paid subscribers still on a newsletter a decade later, without any ads at all. A thousand true fans. Is that crazy?

Josh:

That's insane.

Russell:

Really?

Josh:

And you're one of those true fans because you bought the whole company.

Russell:

Yeah. I thought that was a fascinating side note. So anyway, that's crazy. Like Dan's people love Dan. They love him talking. If they want Dan, but they need funnels. And I'm like, I don't want to come and be the guy who acquires the company and just starts emailing his own offer. I need them to.. I need to indoctrinate them to want it.

So it's like, they're going to read Dan's newsletter and how do I bridge that to ClickFunnels? And I'm like, my funnel nerds are going to read his newsletter and be like, "I don't understand. This isn't..." They need it. They don't know they want it yet. If I can indoctrinate them for a while, they'll be like, "Oh my gosh, I get this," but it's going to take a while for them to really respect it enough that they'll get it.

I was the same way. First time I heard Kennedy, I was like, "This guy's old, boring, and doesn't relate to what I'm talking about." And after I went deep in, I was like, "Oh my gosh, everything he says is literal. He's handing gold nuggets out." And I was just like, I didn't notice them. Now I'm like, "Oh my gosh."

And so I was like, "I need this bridge." And some people know, when I first joined the Kennedy world, we actually launched my first print newsletter right afterwards. It was called The Dot Com Seekers Journal. It morphed from The Dot Com Seekers Journal to eventually call it, The Dot Com Seekers Labs. And then it became a Funnel Report and then it became Funnel University. So I actually ran a print newsletter for 14 years. We shut it down two years ago, but 14 years I ran a print newsletter.

Josh:

Yeah. I remember when you shut it down actually.

Russell:

Yeah. And I loved it, but I just, anyway... There's reasons like the person who was publishing it, she had a baby and she retired and all these things. I was just like, "Ah. I'm, I'm focusing ClickFunnels. Don't even worry about this right now." So we shut it down. But I loved that part of it.

And I was like, what if I create an offer where the concept, the story, the hook of this whole entire thing is like, "Russell bought Dan company and they're coming together to give you two things like the best foundational direct response in the world. Plus the best in the marketing, the cutting edge, the new things are happening. So you can have both sides. So you understand the foundation you need to be able to survive Facebook slapping you and all these things happening and media shifting and changing. But you also have like what's working today so you can capitalize on things in real time."

What if we took those two worlds together? The baby. And so instead of just being like, "You're signing for the new, from the Dan Kennedy newsletter," what if it was like, "Dan Kennedy, Russell Brunson?" Two different newsletters. You get two newsletters for the price of one. I was like, "That's the offer. That's the hook. That's what gets affiliates excited, to get ads excited, everything gets excited around this offer."

And then, every mornings at 5:00 in this morning, or 5:00 AM every morning this week, I woke up and I'm writing copy for this page of like, "Okay, here's the hook. They're coming in. And there's Dan and there's Russell." How these things are coming together. And the story behind that, how it worked and then the offer instead of just like, "Here's $697 worth of free stuff," it's like, "you get two newsletters. You get the best direct response, best of Russell, every two weeks."

So you get one in the mail and then 14 days later, you get the next one. And you're getting both of these. You get the old and the new but you only pay one price. You get both for the price of one. And then you get all Dan's bonus, all Russell's bonuses. Now becomes this like insane offer where, now, it's like, "I'm excited to mail my list." We bought Dan's company, you get all my best stuff in this to get, and it's this combination. And then affiliates will be excited.

It just... And maybe the hook bombs, I don't know. But it gave me the energy, just like, "Okay, now, this is exciting and sexy." And so I can turn that into webinar where it's just like, "Dan Kennedy and Russell Brunson coming together to literally blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever." Like, "Opt in here to find our webinar," and people would opt in because the story, the hook is exciting or I can do a challenge like, "The seven day challenge. Me and Dan are going to go through how to destroy your business and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." And in the end, I'm selling a newsletter or it could be a VSL telling the story with a newsletter or could be... all of them work. The book is the secrets of story.

Josh:

Well, what it sounds like... Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it sounds like you just created this story about the offer. And now that you know what the offer is, and there's a reason that that came together and like, "That's what it is," now, you understand the story behind that. I'm trying to think of it like an analogy.

For example, Disney world. That offer is so good. You're literally going into a different world that pretty much sells itself once you put it out there. And so once you have the story, once you have that idea around what the offer does and how it's unique and how it's it's own unique thing, then you can just take that and then it fills the rest of the funnel. Because everybody wants that thing because now the offer itself is so good.

And I think one of the problems that I had, man, for so long is, I was trying to convince people that they wanted my thing be... Or convince people that they had this problem, and then that they wanted this thing, and then I would make them an offer on it. And they wouldn't get to... they wouldn't even know about the offer, or what the offer did, or like anything about it, until like forced or like right before the offer.

And they'd be like, "And then I've got this offer? Boo." And because of that, there was no story around it. There's no congruency with it. And so then it was like, "Oh, I didn't even know. That's what I was here for." And then I would like try to sell them something and it wouldn't sell. And I feel like that's the problem that got solved right there, is like first you created the offer and the story around the offer and you made it sexy. And then that made everything else on the funnel super, super easy, because you were just pointing them back to that.

Russell:

Everything, the funnel plus all the ads. Because now the ads are fun. "Why Dan Kennedy came out of retirement? Dan Kennedy almost died. What's he doing today?" All a sudden, all these hooks that tie into that. "Why did Dan Kennedy partner with the owner ClickFunnels? Why did... Is it true that ClickFunnels was built off the back of all Dan Kennedy principles?" There's so many stories I can tell now that are hooks. That'll grab his people in or my people in or...

And then the landing page. And then... It creates everything. And the people that the best in the world of this, and they also make the most money, is Agora. The good Gora publishing. They're selling newsletters. That's all they sell. Right. But every single time they have these insane stories like Porter Stan's got... I think maybe not still, but for like a decade and a half, the highest of all the Agora divisions. I think he'll do like 1.5 or 2 billion dollars a year. Like these are big divisions.

Porter's letter one. And, the story was like, "The railroad across America." And it was talking about like, "The original railroad, how it happened and all the people made money along the way. And this is the next railroad that's being built. It's the digital highway and all this stuff." And that offer was selling a newsletter. But it's the story behind it that became this thing that built a billion dollar company. And they're good. They're so good at figuring out the story, those kind of things.

And I think sometimes we're like, "Hey, I've created a course in the passed. You should create a course too. I made money. It's going to be awesome." And then like, "You should buy my course creating software or whatever." Like, "That's not the thing." We're so bad at telling stories. We brag about our result. We tell them making the same result and that's it. It's like, no, that's not the key. It's the story. It's the entry. It's the... We want to be entertained. We want to be courted. We want to be... that's the game we're playing in marketing. And so when you figure that out... The offer is actually sexy. And then why is that sexy? The sexiness is not just, "You get a bunch of crap." The sexiness is the story about like how this was created.

Josh:

Literally what it does that.

Russell:

That’s the fascinating part.

Josh:

Yeah. Yeah. Catherine Jones. One of her favorite things is, "When your stories become their stories, then your solutions become their solutions." and that's literally what this is. If you can tell them a story where they like it and they're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing," then, go and do it.

So for example, Harry Potter world. The story, it... My wife freaking loves Harry Potter world. I mean, that was her thing. When we went down to Funnel Hacking Live, it was like, we were going to take a half a day just to go to Harry Potter world. So we showed up and then it was like, "Hey." Miles is like, "Dude, the buss is leaving for Harry Potter world."

There wasn't much convincing that has to be done. The story is, "Oh my gosh, Harry Potter world's amazing. It's Harry Potter. I want it" She wanted that thing because of the story that was leading up to it. There was no, "What's Harry Potter world? Is it any good? What's this?" It's like, "No, it's Harry Potter world." And you're like, "Oh, okay. Yeah, I want it."

That's like the story with that. So that's super, super interesting. So where do you see the future of funnels going? Because obviously there's a lot of changes coming with ClickFunnels and ClickFunnels 2.0, which, oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Gusting. Gusting hits me up. Probably... Dude, he probably hits me up once a week and is like, "Hey, guess what? ClickFunnel 2.0 is awesome. And you don't have it." And I'm like, "I heard you. Stop."

Russell:

He actually built out the magnetic marketing funnel hub right now for me, which is cool.

Josh:

So, yeah. So anyway, but what's the next evolution? And we don't have really have too much to talk about metaverse and where that goes. But we're entering this new world. I mean, the world is changing very, very, very rapidly. COVID is one of those things that we thought the internet was a big deal, and internet marketing was a big deal, pre-COVID, and then we watch zoom blow up by like 3000% or something like that. And they ruin zoom for us.

But anyway, so where are things going that people should be paying attention to and going actually studying and understanding about the future of funnels? Because one of the things that I've been really, really focused on and we're kind of getting dialed in, is community funnels, Specifically, I think for me, one of the things that I've noticed is that it's very, very... It's getting increasingly harder to sell things unless you have a community that's tied with it.

And so like for me, one of the things we're focusing on is how do we build funnels inside of our community where our community actually becomes part of the funnel? Which is kind of a cool concept. What do you see as those future things of where funnels are headed, where the big opportunities are going to be? What's the next add to webinar to a 9 97 course? You know what I'm saying? What's the future? Where we're heading?

Russell:

I hate to make it sound simple, but if I come back to the fundamentals we talked about the beginning of this call. Like Dan Kennedy, whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins. So you look at it through that lens. Went from a product, to an offer, to a funnel. And now with the funnel, I have more ways to make money.

And then, from there, the next evolution was like from funnel to value ladder. Right now, it's like, I have a break even funnel and move people up a value ladder and that's how I may lose money or break even on my book funnel, but then my webinar funnel's going to make money or vice versa. Right?

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

That was the next phase. And I think, for me, where I'm playing because I'm trying to play for the next 10 years. How do I win this game? We're doing well. I want to.. How do I get a point where, Shopify, or Salesforce is like, "I want to write you a check for 20 billion because you're such annoyance." The way I'm going to do that, for me, is... and it comes back to why did I acquire Magnet Marketing? Why did I buy Brad Callin’s company? Why am I doing this?

Because I'm not looking at breakeven funnels anymore. Breakeven funnels, awesome. I'm going one chair back or I'm building breakeven businesses. So magnetic marketing, the only gold magnetic is to break even. The entire company, the value ladder, the coaching, the everything. So every penny made side of magnetic marketing be dumped back into ads, want 100% of the profits dump back into ads. So this company's blowing up. And I get now all these things dumped into my value ladder for ClickFunnels.

Like that's it. Voomly doing 40 million a year? Why do we acquire that company? Tons of lead flow. Now, right now there's... it was 10 million dollars a year net profit. All that money now is being dumped directly into lead flow as a breakeven business, to acquire customers for ClickFunnel. So I think it's going deeper. It's looking past... from product to offer, to funnel, to value ladder, to how do I buy or acquire or create something where the only goal of this entire business is just get customers for free that can put into here. And I thing, for me, that's the next level is just like that thought.

Josh:

You just blew my mind, dude. Holy cow. You're creating an ecosystem, but in a very specific way. It's interesting, as you just told that out, just, "First, it was this. Then, it was this." The thing before it didn't change. That's still part of it.

Russell:

It's both the same. Yeah.

Josh:

Right. But it's kind of that next evolution, that next piece of where that comes out. That's fascinating. I think a lot of people need to just really rewind that, go listen to that clip again and let your brain sit on that.

Russell:

That's how I'm playing the game. Yes. Hopefully I'm four step ahead everyone else, but I'm all for showing that with you guys. And so I just... Again, for everyone to start thinking that, because it's going to get harder. It's going to get more expensive. It's going to get more... We've seen that this year. Ad costs have gone up. It's not going to get cheap. It's not going to bounce back down and be cheaper. It's going to keep doing that. The people who only had a product back in the day are out of business. People only had an offer back in day, they're out of business. People don't have a funnel are out of a business. People don't have a value ladder out of a business. So it's just thinking ahead of that. Metaverse or whatever next step is, doesn't really matter. It's the principle still is the same for me.

For 20 years, whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins.

Josh:

Wins.

Russell:

How do I do that in a way that serves the customers, brings them in and then... I'll end on this, because it back to what you said. And I did a podcast on this. It's in the facts I got from Dan Kennedy. After the company sold last time, he was super mad at the company that had jacked up his brand and his legacy and stuff. And so like he sent this 25 page facts, like all the things to do to fix it. And there's one paragraph where he said, "There's difference between why customers come in and why they stay." He said, "People think they're the same things." He's like, "No, no, they're different." Why they come in is because they see the hook of like, "Ooh, the scene." They come in from that. They stay for something different.

And you have to understand that. So like I had my inner circle meeting, right. Everyone paid 50 grand to be in the room. We had a hundred entrepreneurs in the room and I told them. I said like, "Well, you guys all because you want to learn funnels from Russell." But I'm like, "The reason why you came is not why you were going to stay here. The reason I get sick year, after year, after year is because of the community."

That's it. That's why I sat in Dan Kennedy rooms for six years of my life is because the community built and I wanted to be around these people. I came for Dan stuck for the community. And I think that you start understanding that, that's how you get these people to come in on a front end, but they stay and they buy over and over and they stay on continuity. They stick because it's like.. They come in from a hook, but they stay for the something different. And so really understanding that and then weaving everything you're doing like you're doing now with the community funnels, which is perfect.

Josh:

That's amazing. That's amazing. All right. Well I think that's a good ending point for that topic.

Russell:

There's episode number two of our hangout today, which was amazing.

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]]> 2046 no What's the ACTUAL ROI from Podcasting (Answer Will SHOCK You!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/whats-the-actual-roi-from-podcasting-answer-will-shock-you With everything we have to do... does podcasting really make sense? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. We've got three special episodes for you. The first one, well, actually all three of them are with my guest host, Josh Forti. We're going to be breaking down some cool things. The first episode... What happened in the first episode? It was really good. Josh Forti: Yeah. We talked all about podcasting, why podcasting is important. Russell: Yeah, podcasting. So episode number one, we learned about podcasting, why we do it, how we do it, the reasons behind it, and a whole bunch of other things. If you haven't been doing a podcast yet, it's going to sell you on why you need to do one. If you have done one, it's going to show you guys why and how to amplify it, and why it's so important and how to find your best buyers from it. I hope you guys enjoy this episode. We'll cue up the theme song, and we'll be right back. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Like I said today, the next actually couple episodes, I've got a guest host with me, which I'm pumped for. We actually did two podcasts. Well, technically, they were podcasts episodes for your podcast, right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I ripped them off for my podcast because they turned out so good. One is after the Atlas Shrugged book, Josh Forti flew out, and we did... How long? We went for... Josh: It was three and three and a half hours. Yeah. Russell: Three hours. Yeah. Josh: Three and a half hours, yeah. Russell: Going deep into Atlas Shrugged, which was really fascinating. I actually just reread it recently, so if you want to do Round Two, we should totally do that. And then, after I read Atwood and the devil book, I freaked out, and then Josh flew out and we did one there. So you guys who have been listening to the podcast are familiar with him and his voice. But I asked him, I love doing the podcast, but sometimes I fall behind, and my brother who does our podcast settings, "Russell, any episode today?" I'm like, "Huh." I don't even know what to think. I want someone to help come up with ideas so it's not just me. And so Josh went out to the community, asked a bunch of questions and the next couple episodes are going to be some fun conversations. So I'm pumped, man. And thank you for doing this. I know this you're doing this pro bono to hang out and just to help me out, so I appreciate that. And I'm excited to find out what people want to know about. Josh: Yeah, for sure. I love podcasting. That's my life. If I could do one thing, it would just be, have a show that we just talk all the time. So this is fun for me. It's like asking you to come hang out and geek out about funnels. So I'm super excited, though. It's going to be super cool, and dive in further, and pick your brain, and open up a new world that I don't think a lot of people get to see. Russell: Yeah. It's interesting, because I feel that when it's me doing my own podcast, I pick a topic, I go into it. But it's fun when... Yesterday I had a chance to speak at a virtual event thing, and I did my thing and in the end people ask questions. It just opens up a different side that you don't normally do. And so I don't do a lot of Q&A stuff. So I'm excited to... Josh: Yeah. It's interesting. Russell: And maybe this is the only time we do this. Maybe it's a huge train wreck, and this is the only time it happens. Or maybe it becomes a thing. We'll find out. Josh: We'll try to make it not a train wreck. We'll try. We'll do our very best. I think one of the big things though that I want to start with and kick this whole thing off is why you spend so much time with podcasting. Because here's the thing, man. You're rich. We all know it. You don't have to do this. You have this company that you could. We all learned at funnel hacking live, you turned down a billion dollar offer, so clearly you're not doing this for the money. And you've got a company. You've got a team. You've got all these resources. You could spend money on ads. You could do whatever it is that you want. Yet, somehow you are calling me up and are like, "Dude, I need to do podcasts." And to somebody who gets it, and I get it. I have a podcast. I dedicate time when it doesn't make sense. I put money into a podcast that doesn't make sense. On paper, I get and I understand content and putting it out there, and I've never been at your level either. I don't think a lot of people understand. Why do you do it, dude? Why a podcast? And why are you investing so much of the time that you have now, which is limited, I'm sure? There's a lot of people trying for your attention. Why a podcast? And why is that such a core, fundamental piece that you actually spend so much time on, when you clearly don't have to? Russell: I could probably, in fact, I'll probably give you four or five reasons, because there's not just one reason. There's a lot of them. And I actually, I remember when podcasting started. I was at at Armand Morin's BigSeminar, and someone was on stage, Paul Collier was on stage. He's like, "There's this thing coming. It's going to be the greatest thing in the world. It's called podcasting. And you're going to put these things in your ears and listen to people talk." I remember, "That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. No one will ever listen to that." I just didn't get it. He's like, "No, this is the future." And I remember because I was my roommate at the time was Josh Anderson, some of you may know Josh, and Josh went and bought every podcast domain he could think of. And I was like, "You're dumb. That's never going to happen." But I do remember, "Well, if I ever did a podcast, I'd call it the Marketing In Your Car Podcast, because when I drive my car, I could record it. And I remember thinking that. And I remember I bought, at the time, Marketing In Your Car, and I did nothing with it for, I don't know, eight or nine years. I just had it. In fact, I even paid someone to write an intro song for it. So if you ever go back to the first episodes, the first hundred-something episodes, there was this really... At the time it was so cool, and now it's corny, but there was this theme song that some guy wrote for me. And I had it for five years, this theme song, and I never used it because I was like, "I don't get podcasting." Then in my business life, we had grown up my company at the time. We had a hundred employees. And then, the long story you guys have heard before, is the company crashed. Everything fell around, and it went from a 20,000 square foot office to 2000 square foot office. I felt like an idiot. I was embarrassed. My status was at an all time low. I was weird. And for some reason in that season of my life, I had this impression, "You need to start podcasting and talk about marketing." And I was convinced at this time I was the worst marketer in the world, because I had just crashed my entire empire. I'm an idiot. I didn't want to, but I felt this impression like now it's time to start a podcast. So I literally, from the ashes of my business, started this podcast, and I had at that time a four or five minute drive to the office. Okay, I can be consistent with this. It's going to happen all the time. I'm going to do it. So I got my phone out, I clicked record, and I would literally just drive to my office and I would just talk about what we were trying to figure out. "All right. Today, we're going in the office and working on this new offer, and this is what we're thinking and da, da, da." And then the next steps were, "Oh, we launched the offer and it worked." Or it didn't work. So we tried this. It was just me documenting. It's funny. I heard Vaynerchuk talk about, "Document your journey." And I didn't know. That wasn't a thing at the time, but that's literally what I started doing. And it was nice, because it was something that was so easy. It was easy to be consistent with. I think if I would have had to do a podcast where, for me, if I had a studio and a microphone, all those things, I probably wouldn't have done it because I wouldn't have gotten enough momentum to stick with it. But it was easy. And at first the way we set it up, we couldn't track stats, so we had no idea if anyone was listening, which was a huge benefit. Because had I known how few people were listening, I probably wouldn't have kept doing it. But I just kept doing it and doing it, not really knowing what kind of return was going to happen. It's funny now. I had someone, about a year ago, go through and start from the very beginning and listen all the episodes. I was trying to get some notes and trying to remember. And it was cool, because they started coming back, reporting. He's like, "Did you know on this day you talked about why you thought anyone who wanted to build a company over 10 million dollars in sales was a moron? You should never try to grow company that big. And then over here you talked about, you're never going to hire an employee again." All my thoughts at the time, which have morphed and shifted obviously. But it's this cool thing where I have this record now of this journey from the ashes to ClickFunnels and beyond. So it's been very special for me. Josh: Okay. Sorry. I want to continue down that path, I want to interject right there. The reason I started a podcast is because, literally, you told me to. You didn't physically be like, "Josh, start a podcast." But all your books, all your content, you're like, "Publish, publish, publish, publish, publish." And I'm like, "Okay." And so it started on Facebook. It started on Facebook Live, and then it grew. And then my friend Daxy, he is like, "Dude, turn it into a podcast. Way more people would listen." All right. So I have, I don't know, four or five hundred episodes now on my podcast that I have done with you and all these different interviews or whatever. But what I tell people is, and this is true in all areas of my life, I'm so blatantly honest on my podcast. I don't filter or mince my words at all. Shocking. Russell: You're filtered on Facebook and Instagram, you're telling me? Josh: Just a little bit. But what's interesting is one of the things that you pointed out there was you have this document. You have this record of exactly where you were at at the time. And so for me, one of the things... And this is bigger than just podcasting. When you're just blatantly honest with yourself and where things are at, and you just turn on the microphone and you just talk, you actually can go back and you can watch your progress. And you can see. Oh man, when I was 26 years old, when this happened, this is what I thought about life, or this is what I thought about this particular topic, or this is what I was learning here. When I'm building a funnel or I'm building something that I knew I worked on in the past and I talked about it, I can literally go back, and I can remember the struggles. And I think it was you. It might have been. It might have not been you. It might have been Gary. I think it was you, though. You were like, "Imagine if Jeff Bezos would've documented every single day or every single week building Amazon." How much people would pay for that. That would be so epically cool. That's what it's like. So I totally understand what you're talking about there. I feel like people are embarrassed to start, they're embarrassed where they're at now. And so they don't want to put it out there. I'll never forget Liz Benny. Obviously, you know Liz. She's amazing. I had her on my podcast. This is probably a year and a half ago. And she's like, "Josh, I've watched you grow so much." And I'm like, "Really?" She's like, "Oh yeah." I'm like, "How do you know?" She's like, "Because I listen to your podcast." And it was like, "Oh, this is a long term thing." It was at that moment that I realized it. Russell: Uh huh. For sure. It's interesting because, if I haven't publicly talked much about this yet, but I've been acquiring old books. I just bought this whole, literally, library of Napoleon Hill books and stuff. And it's been so fascinating because I'm reading through and these are the records of these people and their beliefs and their thoughts. I've got old magazines from early 1900s, late 1800s. I'm reading. I found articles from Thomas Edison, who were in the publishing these. I'm reading this stuff and it's so cool. And one thing, this is Russell guilt. In the Mormon church one thing they always talk about is, you need to keep a journal, so that way your posterity has this thing. And I've never been good at keeping a journal. And what I started realizing as I'm going through all the Napoleon Hill stuff, I'm so grateful that they wrote these things down and they have this journal. And I started from that guilt again. And all of a sudden I was like, "Wait a minute. I don't have a journal, but I've been podcasting now for seven years." This is my record. This is, when I'm dead, my kids or my grandkids or my posterity or people, whoever it is. This is how they're going to learn about me and figure out who I was. And hopefully I shortcut them some trial and error. Here's the journey I went on, but here's what I figured out. I can help them. I think all of us are always talking about wanting to leave an impact. I think my podcast episodes, I'm hoping these are my journals. These are my records. This is like what I just bought from Napoleon Hill. I'm hoping that this becomes something for the future generations that they can build their businesses off and their ideas and their plans. Because my podcast is... It's a marketing podcast, but I don't talk about marketing most of the time. I talk about my family and my kids, and I'm learning, and my personal development and all the things. Marketing is just the hook I got people in, but it's my life record. It's my journal, which is cool too. Josh: Yeah, that is super cool. It's funny. Quick side note, we have to shut down this indifferent theory, because Apple.... Russell: Just spell it different. Josh: Yeah. Believe me. We've tried some things. I'm not trying to push against the biggest company in the world. So anyway, we have a new name. I'm not going to say it yet, but it's coming. But anyway, in the last just couple weeks, I've had to pause doing podcasts. And it's weird because what you said right there is, "I don't keep a journal." But I know that I do keep a journal via that exact same thing. And it was weird. I went to my wife literally two days ago. And I was like, "I need you to, to help me create a system for the short term to be able to document my thoughts because right now I'm not doing it. And I have so many things that we're going through right now." So I totally get that. But I feel like there's got to be more than that. There's got to be another reason besides just the documentation process for the podcast for you. Russell: For sure. That's the first thing. Again, I got four or five that run in my head, so I don't know what the order they'll come out in. But the next one is eventually I wrote a book. And people were like, "These books are so good. How do you know all these stories?" And for me, I have an idea, and the idea percolates in my head for a minute, and I got to tell someone. So usually first person I tell is usually the podcast. I'm thinking about this thing and I talk about it. And so I tell the story the first time. The first time it may not even be that fleshed out. Then I get to the office and I see Dave over there. Dave's excited. I'm like, "Dave, check this out." And I tell it to him again. And then I tell someone else. And then I'm doing an interview and I say it again. And I tell the story four or five, six times, and I get better and better at telling the story. And then when I'm at a seminar and I'm on stage and I'm talking. I have no idea which direction I'm going. All of a sudden, this thing will pop up my head. I've told that story six times three months ago, and it appears. I remember Tony Robbins told me this. He said, "When I go on stage, I have a plan, but the plan, it never goes to plan. I start talking." And then he's like, "These downloads just come from God or from the universe, and they just show up." And for me, as I started podcasting and telling these stories over and over and over again, that's exactly what happens now. When I need something, I'm in a situation, I'm coaching someone, I talking, I'm on an event or a stage or something. I need something often that just, it appears when I need it. And I think it's because I didn't just think about it and forget about it. I think about it. I tell it on a story. It's published. I tell someone else. And then when I write a book, I've told the story 400 times. I know the best way to tell the story now. I've seen what people laugh at, what they don't laugh at, how to do it the right way. In fact, it's interesting, my next book is a personal development book. I've struggled with that one, because I don't have a personal development podcast. And I haven't tested these stories, these principles or these theories. I've been stuck, as you know. I sent you the rough draft eight months ago, and I haven't written a word since then. Part of it is I haven't had a chance to flesh these things out. So it gives me idea to flush out my ideas is another one of them. Another one that's interesting... I don't know the exact stats, but I read it somewhere. I think I talked about on Traffic Secrets.I put it in there. But conceptually, they talked about people who are podcast listeners versus the rest of humanity. And I'm going to tell you about the stat, and I'll tell you how the practical application of that stat, which is really fascinating. So the stat was something like the average person who listens to the radio makes, I don't know, $60,000 a year. And whereas the average podcast listener makes $120,000 a year. So the people you are getting and acquiring, they are people with more spending power. They're more affluent people that are the kind of people who are trying to develop their brain, their minds, things like that. They're more likely to buy a course or software or a Mastermind or things like that, because they're the kind of people who aren't just listening to the radio to numb themselves. They're listening to audio to grow. That's the fascinating thing that you're getting a better caliber customer who are listening. Number two, you are getting them in their most intimate moments. When do you listen to a podcast? It's when I'm working out and I'm by myself and it's me and them, and I have their full attention. I'm not listening to a podcast where I'm writing an email or texting someone. Or I'm in the car driving. I'm getting access to their brains and their minds in their most intimate moments. But it's just me and them. Even video. Josh: It's not even like that on YouTube either. Russell: Yeah. I'll watch a YouTube video while I'm cooking dinner, while I'm doing five other things. Josh: That's super interesting. Russell: I don't listen to podcasts with my kids in the room, because they're going to ask me a question. They're going to mess it up. It's when I'm separate and it's just me and them and that's it. I have a different level of intimacy with the podcast people that I'm listening to. So the higher quality customers, better level of intimacy, and then the practical application. The first time I really got this, it was after I launched my Inner Circle the very first time. And again, it was funny, because I always told everybody I never money on my podcast. I’m doing this podcast, I'm not making any money from it… And as I did it for four or five years, and I launched my first version of my first version of my Inner Circle, and we had a point where we had about 33 people in it paying 25 grand. And I remember at one of the events, somebody asked, "How did you guys bump into Russell?" And all of them were like, "Oh, I saw something, but then I got on this podcast, and I listened to him every single day while I was working out for six months. And he kept talking about this Inner Circle and talking about this thing. He's going to get all these things." And it was fascinating. Almost everyone in the room, they didn't hear about my podcast. Podcast isn't good for lead gen. It's never. Josh: Yeah. It's horrible for lead gen. Russell: You can't just buy ads and blow up your podcast. But people find out about you. They plug in to your podcast. And the people who make that transition from, "I saw a book." "I saw an ad." "I saw something." And they make that transition where they actually get the phone out, subscribe, and then plug you in. Those become your best customers, your highest buyers. They're the best. And so the practical application is yes, by doing this podcast, I'm taking... And I talk about this in Expert Secrets. And actually my Inner Circle meeting last month, we talked a lot about this. We talked about creating a new opportunity versus an improvement offer. And for the most part you want to create new opportunities. That's what gets people in the door. And I told everyone, your value ladder should be this new opportunity. There's opportunity stacking. The back of the value ladder, there's one section that's saved for people with ambition. New opportunity is all about getting people who have a desire to come in. But people with ambition, and the percentage of your audience is small. The percentage of people who have true ambition, it might be 15 to 20%, maybe. Josh: Yeah. Russell: But those are your most ambition. I told them my Master, I didn't sell you guys new opportunity. Do you want to come to Boise and talk to other entrepreneurs? Or are you going to get better and stronger and smarter, all the ER words? You guys are the ones at the top of the value ladder. You are ambitious. So I'm not selling you new opportunity. I'm selling you guys improvement. And it's the hardest thing to sell, but it's what one tier of your audience wants. I feel like same thing, the people who are listening to your podcasts, these are the people who want improvement. These are the ambitious ones. They're not the tire kickers. And so it's the best way to convert people in their highest ticket backing things as well. Josh: Yeah. And I also think, one thing that's very important to point out, I think here, is the style slash type of podcast that you particularly create. Because I've studied a lot of different podcasts. Joe Rogan obviously is a big inspiration of mine when it just comes to creating content or whatever. But what's interesting is that the type of content that a Joe Rogan creates, or that even a Logan Paul or any of the bigger mainstream podcasts, oftentimes it's much more for entertainment. And Joe Rogan, I think, maybe is the blend between the two. But a lot of podcasts, they're not specifically for solving a very specific problem. And so what I always say about specifically the type of podcast that you create, you or Steve or whatever, your type of podcast is horrible for lead generation, but is amazing for lead education. It's because once they're in there, you have that. And what's interesting is one of the times that I listened to your podcast most... I'm going to let you guess. I'm sure you're not going to get it. But what do you think one of the times I listened to your podcast most? Russell: When you're driving somewhere in your car. Josh: That's a time. Yeah. But it's when I'm in pain. When I have a specific pain around my funnel, I will literally go, "Russell has this podcast. He's got all these episodes. I bet you he's talked about it." And so I'll literally go on my phone and I'll keyword search for different things. And I'll specifically go. There was one time I was listening to, it was something about a webinar or something, and you were talking about how you wrote your headlines and basically how you came up with your framework for it. And I remember you did that one time. And so I was struggling with it, and so I literally searched it and I did it. And so the type of podcast that you create, in my head there's two different ones. There's one for entertainment. And then there's one for education. And you create one specifically for education. And when you do that, that's the type of podcast or that's the type of content that literally goes and educates your member. And when you have that, a hundred percent, my top buyers, anybody that gives me top dollar for my stuff, they all listen to my podcast or have been on my podcast and I'll pull something out of it. They're always the ones that pay the most money. For sure. Russell: For sure. It's interesting too. And there's, as you said, a lot of formats. When I did mine, I did a short form for a couple reasons. Number one is it was my drive to the office, so that's how it started. But number two, I love Joe Rogan and I probably listen to one of his entire podcast ever. Josh: Oh my gosh. I probably listen to a hundred of them at least. Russell: And I get overwhelmed, because each one's four hours long and there's all these different people. Everyone keeps talking recently about the Jewel one. "It's the greatest thing in the world. You've got to listen to it." Four hours. I could get a whole audio book, the entire book done in four hours. Is that worth the investment? I don't ever want to dive into it, because it's so big. Whereas mine, again, someone's in the car and only got a 10 minute commute. Boom. Throw it in. They get an episode. And then what happens is they get hooked, and then they'll listen for four hours. So it's different though, because if Joe Rogan's were broken up into even 20 minute blocks, I would probably listen to all of them. Josh: YouTube Joe Rogan clips. It's Joe Rogan experience clips. And it's literally 20 minute episodes. Russell: Oh cool. Josh: So if you ever want to. Russell: That's probably what I would do. And I think it's interesting. And then also another nice thing about short form is people come in, they listen to one... And I get this all the time. People are like, "I got your podcast, listened to three or four episodes, and I loved it. So I started at the very beginning and I binge-listened to all of them." It happens all the time as well. Whereas Joe Rogan, you're not going to binge-listen because that's 65 years worth of content you're going to go through. Mine, they're short. I'm going to go to the beginning. And they start and they binge listen. And then they've gone through your journey with you. And by the time they show up, they know everything that you've ever said. And they're so much easier to work with if they've got that stuff. I think everyone needs... It's one of the things where you're not going to see a big return or not initially. But over time, if you're consistent with it, it's the best thing. And then obviously, I don't use my platform for this, but you do and I think it's brilliant. It gives you access to all these people. Whereas the interviewing people, you get access to people you can't otherwise. Josh: Doors open that you literally can't even understand simply because you're like, "Hey, I have a podcast and hey, I've got these couple other cool players on here. You want to come?" Alex Hormozi is coming on my podcast. I literally reached out to him, "I have a podcast." And a hundred percent, I'm going to admit something to you right now. I was like, "Hey, I had a podcast, and Russell's been on a couple times. You want to come on?" He's like, "I love Russell. Of course I'll come on your show." Russell: That's awesome. Josh: Crazy big doors that get open simply because you have a platform to be able to allow someone to use their voice as well. Russell: I remember, before Tony and I were super close, we met a couple times and stuff, but I remember he was doing some launch. I remember Lewis Howes and him did a big interview. And three or four people they interview sound so annoying. Why is Tony hanging out with these people and not me? And now all of a sudden, I had the ahas. "Lewis Howes has got a big podcast. Oh my gosh. Okay, I need to be able to offer my platform to him to get in that door and really build that relationship." And that's one of the powers of it too. You have a platform, now you've got ability to access people you can't otherwise. As you know. Josh: All right. Two rapid fire questions here really quick. Because I want to move on to the next topic to keep us on track. But number one, what's the Joe Rogan episode that you listened to all the way through? Do you remember which one it was? Russell: Oh, I do know. Yeah. And I actually hate that I listened this one. It was the Gary Vee one. Josh: Oh. Yeah. Russell: And the reason why I listened, because I want to be on Joe Rogan's podcast someday. And I want to see what Gary talked about because... As you know, Gary and I have a... He probably has idea who I am. Josh: You have a light beef. Russell: We've got an interesting relationship. He's not my... Anyway. I've got to make sure I'm the next internet marketer who actually does a better job. Josh: Okay. Two things on that. One, anybody listening, I'm going to do this, so don't take it, but I'll beat you to it. If you ever can get Russell Brunson on Joe Rogan, that's a great Dream 100 gift right there. That would be amazing. Secondly, I've listened to so many episode of Joe Rogan. One of my favorite ones is actually with Kanye. I know everyone thinks Kanye's an idiot. But if you can, that's five hours. It's insane. It's one of the most intense episodes I've ever listened to. But one that is a must-listen to, seriously one of the best podcast episodes ever done is his first interview with Elon Musk. If you ever get the chance, just sit down and listen to it. It's three or three and a half hours, but understanding that dude's mind, Elon Musk, you will not regret that three hours of your life. It was a fantastic episode. So that's the one. Russell: Very cool. Josh: Okay. Last thing here before we move on, are there any other points that we didn't cover about why someone should have a podcast? Wrap up, make your closing arguments around why somebody should go setup a podcast. Russell: The last one I'll say, and I quote Nathan Barry, actually, in Traffic Secrets. And I'll probably mess up the quote, but it was interesting. He talked about how... I think the title of the blog post I share is, You Got to Publish Long Enough to Get Noticed. And he talks about how for most of us there's so much content out nowadays. There's all these things. It's hard to know what's going to be good. 5,000 podcasts launched today. How many Netflix episodes, all sorts stuff. He says most of us find out about a good show at Season Two or Season Three, because of this, we waited to see, our friends talked about it. All of sudden it gets a breaking point where everyone's talking about it, and then you become this overnight success. It's interesting. He said you have to publish long enough to get noticed. And I think that's the biggest thing to understand. Especially most people who are getting started and they're so scared. "I'm going to look like an idiot." "They're all going to make fun of me." "I'm just a beginner." Blah, blah. All these different excuses. The good news is, at the very beginning, no one's listening. Josh: No one's listening. Russell: It doesn't matter. Just do it. This is your chance to actually find your voice and learn how to speak and tell stories, and all those things. No one's listening. And if you keep doing it, I tell people all the time, if you publish consistently for a year, that doesn't mean once a month for a year, daily for a year, or three, four times, five times a week consistently for year. Two things will happen. Number one, you'll find your voice. Number two, your audience will have a chance and have enough time to actually find you. And so it's going out there and just setting it up, the ROI. And I'm a big ROI. You look at my DiSC profile, my number one value is ROI. If I can't see the return on investment on something, it's hard for me to do. It's why I struggled in school. It's why I struggle in awkward conversations. Because I'm like, "What's the point of this?" I don't get it. Podcasting was hard, because I didn't know what the ROI was. And luckily again, I didn't see the stats for three years. Josh: Is that how long it was? It was three years? Russell: Yeah, before we figured out how to get the stats on it. Josh: That's crazy. Russell: But because of that, because I didn't know what the ROI was, and I was just hoping and praying with faith that it would be good. Now I see the ROI. Now it's important. Now I do it twice a week. Regardless, it happens in the queue, in the can because it's that important. Josh: If your number one thing is ROI and you figured out the podcast is worth it, guys, there's your selling point. Go start a podcast already. Russell: Got a podcast. Let's go. Josh: Honestly, it's amazing. And it's so much fun too. You learn so much about yourself. And I think the one thing I'll say about podcasting is you've got to really find your own unique style. I was listening to, I know you know Alex Becker, but Alex Becker is probably one of the biggest influencers in crypto right now. Just insane. One of my friends who got his NFT, and he's up a quarter million bucks in three months. Just insane stuff. One of the things that he said is right now in the industry, everybody is trying to become an influencer. And so he says, "I see all these people trying to model exactly what it is that I do." And he's like, "I have no problem with you guys doing that because I get it." At the beginning, you don't know your voice yet or whatever, but he's like, "You'll never be me." And I won't use the language that he used. But he's basically like, "There's only one me, so eventually model me, do whatever you need to do. But eventually go find your voice. Go find your own thing, because that's why people are going to watch you. I'm going to make sure that you're irrelevant if you try to model me long term." And so it's giving you that permission to model somebody at the beginning, but then, people are not going to listen to you if they can go listen to somebody else that has the exact same style. So it allows you to really be yourself when you give yourself permission to just try different things. And at the beginning, like you said, no one's listening. Russell: Yeah. It's funny talking about modeling. I talked about this yesterday on a call I was on. It's fascinating because people, they're trying to copy or model somebody because they're trying to get those people to attract the right audience. And Myron said, "You don't attract who you want, you attract who you are." And so if you're trying to be someone else, you're not going to... Because you want those customers. It's going to be weird. I remember when we launched ClickFunnels, I was trying to be like all the other internet marketing guys, because I thought I was competing against Ryan and Perry and Traffic & Conversion. So I was trying to be more corporatey businessy, like they were. Wait a minute. That's not me. I'm not going to wear a shirt and tie on stage. I'm not going to wear a suit jacket. I'm going to wear my t-shirts and jeans. And I'm going to talk about my family and God and wrestling and things I'm excited by. And I don't care about agency, not that I don't care agency, but I don't care about... I'm going to speak to the entrepreneur, because that's who I want. Wherein Ryan and Perry, literally, one of their Traffic & Conversions were, "This is less for the entrepreneur, more for your teams and your staff." It's crazy now because you look at the... I thought we were in the same market, but as soon as I leaned into who Russell was, it's separated. And it's not that one's better or worse. They're different, but if you go to Funnel Hacking Live, it’s my people. You're in the audience. Most of these people here are Christians, who are athletes, who've got kids, who are entrepreneurs, who are not doing this for the money, but doing it because they want to change the world. That's the overwhelming percentage of our audience. Not everyone. But as a whole we attract who we are. So lean into that, because otherwise you're going to attract people you don't like, and you're going to hate your life, and you're going to hate your business, you're going to hate your customers. But you put yourself out there, the people who do not resonate with you will leave on their own. You don't have to kick them out. They're be like, "Russell's annoying." I get people all the time, if I mention God on a podcast or anything, they're like, "If you're talking about God, I'm out." Sweet. All right. Bye. I'm good with that. I know people are like, "I don't believe in God, but I respect that you lean into it." They're cool too. But the people who are offended leave and the people who stick are the ones you want to hang out with anyway, because you attract who you are and not who you want to bring in. Josh: And I can talk about that topic super long, but I want to keep moving on the next piece here. Russell: That's it for the first episode then. Here with Josh on the Market Secrets Podcast. We're going to transition to the next one on the next episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000 What's the ACTUAL ROI from Podcasting (Answer Will SHOCK You!) full 467 Russell Brunson | YAP Media With everything we have to do... does podcasting really make sense? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to... With everything we have to do... does podcasting really make sense? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. We've got three special episodes for you. The first one, well, actually all three of them are with my guest host, Josh Forti. We're going to be breaking down some cool things. The first episode... What happened in the first episode? It was really good. Josh Forti: Yeah. We talked all about podcasting, why podcasting is important. Russell: Yeah, podcasting. So episode number one, we learned about podcasting, why we do it, how we do it, the reasons behind it, and a whole bunch of other things. If you haven't been doing a podcast yet, it's going to sell you on why you need to do one. If you have done one, it's going to show you guys why and how to amplify it, and why it's so important and how to find your best buyers from it. I hope you guys enjoy this episode. We'll cue up the theme song, and we'll be right back. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Like I said today, the next actually couple episodes, I've got a guest host with me, which I'm pumped for. We actually did two podcasts. Well, technically, they were podcasts episodes for your podcast, right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I ripped them off for my podcast because they turned out so good. One is after the Atlas Shrugged book, Josh Forti flew out, and we did... How long? We went for... Josh: It was three and three and a half hours. Yeah. Russell: Three hours. Yeah. Josh: Three and a half hours, yeah. Russell: Going deep into Atlas Shrugged, which was really fascinating. I actually just reread it recently, so if you want to do Round Two, we should totally do that. And then, after I read Atwood and the devil book, I freaked out, and then Josh flew out and we did one there. So you guys who have been listening to the podcast are familiar with him and his voice. But I asked him, I love doing the podcast, but sometimes I fall behind, and my brother who does our podcast settings, "Russell, any episode today?" I'm like, "Huh." I don't even know what to think. I want someone to help come up with ideas so it's not just me. And so Josh went out to the community, asked a bunch of questions and the next couple episodes are going to be some fun conversations. So I'm pumped, man. And thank you for doing this. I know this you're doing this pro bono to hang out and just to help me out, so I appreciate that. And I'm excited to find out what people want to know about. Josh: Yeah, for sure. I love podcasting. That's my life. If I could do one thing, it would just be, have a show that we just talk all the time. So this is fun for me. It's like asking you to come hang out and geek out about funnels. So I'm super excited, though. It's going to be super cool, and dive in further, and pick your brain, and open up a new world that I don't think a lot of people get to see. Russell: Yeah. It's interesting, because I feel that when it's me doing my own podcast, I pick a topic, I go into it. But it's fun when... Yesterday I had a chance to speak at a virtual event thing, and I did my thing and in the end people ask questions. It just opens up a different side that you don't normally do. And so I don't do a lot of Q&A stuff. So I'm excited to... Josh: Yeah. It's interesting. Russell: And maybe this is the only time we do this. Maybe it's a huge train wreck, and this is the only time it happens. Or maybe it becomes a thing. We'll find out. Josh: We'll try to make it not a train wreck. We'll try. We'll do our very best. I think one of the big things though that I want to start with and kick this whole thing off is why you spend so much time with podcasting. Because here's the thing, man. You're rich. We all know it. You don't have to do this. You have this company that you could. We all learned at funnel hacking live, you turned down a billion dollar offer, so clearly you're not doing this for the money. And you've got a company. You've got a team. You've got all these resources. You could spend money on ads. You could do whatever it is that you want. Yet, somehow you are calling me up and are like, "Dude, I need to do podcasts." And to somebody who gets it, and I get it. I have a podcast. I dedicate time when it doesn't make sense. I put money into a podcast that doesn't make sense. On paper, I get and I understand content and putting it out there, and I've never been at your level either. I don't think a lot of people understand. Why do you do it, dude? Why a podcast? And why are you investing so much of the time that you have now, which is limited, I'm sure? There's a lot of people trying for your attention. Why a podcast? And why is that such a core, fundamental piece that you actually spend so much time on, when you clearly don't have to? Russell: I could probably, in fact, I'll probably give you four or five reasons, because there's not just one reason. There's a lot of them. And I actually, I remember when podcasting started. I was at at Armand Morin's BigSeminar, and someone was on stage, Paul Collier was on stage. He's like, "There's this thing coming. It's going to be the greatest thing in the world. It's called podcasting. And you're going to put these things in your ears and listen to people talk." I remember, "That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. No one will ever listen to that." I just didn't get it. He's like, "No, this is the future." And I remember because I was my roommate at the time was Josh Anderson, some of you may know Josh, and Josh went and bought every podcast domain he could think of. And I was like, "You're dumb. That's never going to happen." But I do remember, "Well, if I ever did a podcast, I'd call it the Marketing In Your Car Podcast, because when I drive my car, I could record it. And I remember thinking that. And I remember I bought, at the time, Marketing In Your Car, and I did nothing with it for, I don't know, eight or nine years. I just had it. In fact, I even paid someone to write an intro song for it. So if you ever go back to the first episodes, the first hundred-something episodes, there was this really... At the time it was so cool, and now it's corny, but there was this theme song that some guy wrote for me. And I had it for five years, this theme song, and I never used it because I was like, "I don't get podcasting." Then in my business life, we had grown up my company at the time. We had a hundred employees. And then, the long story you guys have heard before, is the company crashed. Everything fell around, and it went from a 20,000 square foot office to 2000 square foot office. I felt like an idiot. I was embarrassed. My status was at an all time low. I was weird. And for some reason in that season of my life, I had this impression, "You need to start podcasting and talk about marketing." And I was convinced at this time I was the worst marketer in the world, because I had just crashed my entire empire. I'm an idiot. I didn't want to, but I felt this impression like now it's time to start a podcast. So I literally, from the ashes of my business, started this podcast, and I had at that time a four or five minute drive to the office. Okay, I can be consistent with this. It's going to happen all the time. I'm going to do it. So I got my phone out, I clicked record, and I would literally just drive to my office and I would just talk about what we were trying to figure out. "All right. Today, we're going in the office and working on this new offer, and this is what we're thinking and da, da, da." And then the next steps were, "Oh, we launched the offer and it worked." Or it didn't work. So we tried this. It was just me documenting. It's funny. I heard Vaynerchuk talk about, "Document your journey." And I didn't know. That wasn't a thing at the time, but that's literally what I started doing. And it was nice, because it was something that was so easy. It was easy to be consistent with. I think if I would have had to do a podcast where, for me, if I had a studio and a microphone, all those things, I probably wouldn't have done it because I wouldn't have gotten enough momentum to stick with it. But it was easy. And at first the way we set it up, we couldn't track stats, so we had no idea if anyone was listening, which was a huge benefit. Because had I known how few people were listening, I probably wouldn't have kept doing it. But I just kept doing it and doing it, not really knowing what kind of return was going to happen. It's funny now. I had someone, about a year ago, go through and start from the very beginning and listen all the episodes. I was trying to get some notes and trying to remember. And it was cool, because they started coming back, reporting. He's like, "Did you know on this day you talked about why you thought anyone who wanted to build a company over 10 million dollars in sales was a moron? You should never try to grow company that big. And then over here you talked about, you're never going to hire an employee again." All my thoughts at the time, which have morphed and shifted obviously. But it's this cool thing where I have this record now of this journey from the ashes to ClickFunnels and beyond. So it's been very special for me. Josh: Okay. Sorry. I want to continue down that path, I want to interject right there. The reason I started a podcast is because, literally, you told me to. You didn't physically be like, "Josh, start a podcast." But all your books, all your content, you're like, "Publish, publish, publish, publish, publish." And I'm like, "Okay." And so it started on Facebook. It started on Facebook Live, and then it grew. And then my friend Daxy, he is like, "Dude, turn it into a podcast. Way more people would listen." All right. So I have, I don't know, four or five hundred episodes now on my podcast that I have done with you and all these different interviews or whatever. But what I tell people is, and this is true in all areas of my life, I'm so blatantly honest on my podcast. I don't filter or mince my words at all. Shocking. Russell: You're filtered on Facebook and Instagram, you're telling me? Josh: Just a little bit. But what's interesting is one of the things that you pointed out there was you have this document. You have this record of exactly where you were at at the time. And so for me, one of the things... And this is bigger than just podcasting. When you're just blatantly honest with yourself and where things are at, and you just turn on the microphone and you just talk, you actually can go back and you can watch your progress. And you can see. Oh man, when I was 26 years old, when this happened, this is what I thought about life, or this is what I thought about this particular topic, or this is what I was learning here. When I'm building a funnel or I'm building something that I knew I worked on in the past and I talked about it, I can literally go back, and I can remember the struggles. And I think it was you. It might have been. It might have not been you. It might have been Gary. I think it was you, though. You were like, "Imagine if Jeff Bezos would've documented every single day or every single week building Amazon." How much people would pay for that. That would be so epically cool. That's what it's like. So I totally understand what you're talking about there. I feel like people are embarrassed to start, they're embarrassed where they're at now. And so they don't want to put it out there. I'll never forget Liz Benny. Obviously, you know Liz. She's amazing. I had her on my podcast. This is probably a year and a half ago. And she's like, "Josh, I've watched you grow so much." And I'm like, "Really?" She's like, "Oh yeah." I'm like, "How do you know?" She's like, "Because I listen to your podcast." And it was like, "Oh, this is a long term thing." It was at that moment that I realized it. Russell: Uh huh. For sure. It's interesting because, if I haven't publicly talked much about this yet, but I've been acquiring old books. I just bought this whole, literally, library of Napoleon Hill books and stuff. And it's been so fascinating because I'm reading through and these are the records of these people and their beliefs and their thoughts. I've got old magazines from early 1900s, late 1800s. I'm reading. I found articles from Thomas Edison, who were in the publishing these. I'm reading this stuff and it's so cool. And one thing, this is Russell guilt. In the Mormon church one thing they always talk about is, you need to keep a journal, so that way your posterity has this thing. And I've never been good at keeping a journal. And what I started realizing as I'm going through all the Napoleon Hill stuff, I'm so grateful that they wrote these things down and they have this journal. And I started from that guilt again. And all of a sudden I was like, "Wait a minute. I don't have a journal, but I've been podcasting now for seven years." This is my record. This is, when I'm dead, my kids or my grandkids or my posterity or people, whoever it is. This is how they're going to learn about me and figure out who I was. And hopefully I shortcut them some trial and error. Here's the journey I went on, but here's what I figured out. I can help them. I think all of us are always talking about wanting to leave an impact. I think my podcast episodes, I'm hoping these are my journals. These are my records. This is like what I just bought from Napoleon Hill. I'm hoping that this becomes something for the future generations that they can build their businesses off and their ideas and their plans. Because my podcast is... It's a marketing podcast, but I don't talk about marketing most of the time. I talk about my family and my kids, and I'm learning, and my personal development and all the things. Marketing is just the hook I got people in, but it's my life record. It's my journal, which is cool too. Josh: Yeah, that is super cool. It's funny. Quick side note, we have to shut down this indifferent theory, because Apple.... Russell: Just spell it different. Josh: Yeah. Believe me. We've tried some things. I'm not trying to push against the biggest company in the world. So anyway, we have a new name. I'm not going to say it yet, but it's coming. But anyway, in the last just couple weeks, I've had to pause doing podcasts. And it's weird because what you said right there is, "I don't keep a journal." But I know that I do keep a journal via that exact same thing. And it was weird. I went to my wife literally two days ago. And I was like, "I need you to, to help me create a system for the short term to be able to document my thoughts because right now I'm not doing it. And I have so many things that we're going through right now." So I totally get that. But I feel like there's got to be more than that. There's got to be another reason besides just the documentation process for the podcast for you. Russell: For sure. That's the first thing. Again, I got four or five that run in my head, so I don't know what the order they'll come out in. But the next one is eventually I wrote a book. And people were like, "These books are so good. How do you know all these stories?" And for me, I have an idea, and the idea percolates in my head for a minute, and I got to tell someone. So usually first person I tell is usually the podcast. I'm thinking about this thing and I talk about it. And so I tell the story the first time. The first time it may not even be that fleshed out. Then I get to the office and I see Dave over there. Dave's excited. I'm like, "Dave, check this out." And I tell it to him again. And then I tell someone else. And then I'm doing an interview and I say it again. And I tell the story four or five, six times, and I get better and better at telling the story. And then when I'm at a seminar and I'm on stage and I'm talking. I have no idea which direction I'm going. All of a sudden, this thing will pop up my head. I've told that story six times three months ago, and it appears. I remember Tony Robbins told me this. He said, "When I go on stage, I have a plan, but the plan, it never goes to plan. I start talking." And then he's like, "These downloads just come from God or from the universe, and they just show up." And for me, as I started podcasting and telling these stories over and over and over again, that's exactly what happens now. When I need something, I'm in a situation, I'm coaching someone, I talking, I'm on an event or a stage or something. I need something often that just, it appears when I need it. And I think it's because I didn't just think about it and forget about it. I think about it. I tell it on a story. It's published. I tell someone else. And then when I write a book, I've told the story 400 times. I know the best way to tell the story now. I've seen what people laugh at, what they don't laugh at, how to do it the right way. In fact, it's interesting, my next book is a personal development book. I've struggled with that one, because I don't have a personal development podcast. And I haven't tested these stories, these principles or these theories. I've been stuck, as you know. I sent you the rough draft eight months ago, and I haven't written a word since then. Part of it is I haven't had a chance to flesh these things out. So it gives me idea to flush out my ideas is another one of them. Another one that's interesting... I don't know the exact stats, but I read it somewhere. I think I talked about on Traffic Secrets.I put it in there. But conceptually, they talked about people who are podcast listeners versus the rest of humanity. And I'm going to tell you about the stat, and I'll tell you how the practical application of that stat, which is really fascinating. So the stat was something like the average person who listens to the radio makes, I don't know, $60,000 a year. And whereas the average podcast listener makes $120,000 a year. So the people you are getting and acquiring, they are people with more spending power. They're more affluent people that are the kind of people who are trying to develop their brain, their minds, things like that. They're more likely to buy a course or software or a Mastermind or things like that, because they're the kind of people who aren't just listening to the radio to numb themselves. They're listening to audio to grow. That's the fascinating thing that you're getting a better caliber customer who are listening. Number two, you are getting them in their most intimate moments. When do you listen to a podcast? It's when I'm working out and I'm by myself and it's me and them, and I have their full attention. I'm not listening to a podcast where I'm writing an email or texting someone. Or I'm in the car driving. I'm getting access to their brains and their minds in their most intimate moments. But it's just me and them. Even video. Josh: It's not even like that on YouTube either. Russell: Yeah. I'll watch a YouTube video while I'm cooking dinner, while I'm doing five other things. Josh: That's super interesting. Russell: I don't listen to podcasts with my kids in the room, because they're going to ask me a question. They're going to mess it up. It's when I'm separate and it's just me and them and that's it. I have a different level of intimacy with the podcast people that I'm listening to. So the higher quality customers, better level of intimacy, and then the practical application. The first time I really got this, it was after I launched my Inner Circle the very first time. And again, it was funny, because I always told everybody I never money on my podcast. I’m doing this podcast, I'm not making any money from it… And as I did it for four or five years, and I launched my first version of my first version of my Inner Circle, and we had a point where we had about 33 people in it paying 25 grand. And I remember at one of the events, somebody asked, "How did you guys bump into Russell?" And all of them were like, "Oh, I saw something, but then I got on this podcast, and I listened to him every single day while I was working out for six months. And he kept talking about this Inner Circle and talking about this thing. He's going to get all these things." And it was fascinating. Almost everyone in the room, they didn't hear about my podcast. Podcast isn't good for lead gen. It's never. Josh: Yeah. It's horrible for lead gen. Russell: You can't just buy ads and blow up your podcast. But people find out about you. They plug in to your podcast. And the people who make that transition from, "I saw a book." "I saw an ad." "I saw something." And they make that transition where they actually get the phone out, subscribe, and then plug you in. Those become your best customers, your highest buyers. They're the best. And so the practical application is yes, by doing this podcast, I'm taking... And I talk about this in Expert Secrets. And actually my Inner Circle meeting last month, we talked a lot about this. We talked about creating a new opportunity versus an improvement offer. And for the most part you want to create new opportunities. That's what gets people in the door. And I told everyone, your value ladder should be this new opportunity. There's opportunity stacking. The back of the value ladder, there's one section that's saved for people with ambition. New opportunity is all about getting people who have a desire to come in. But people with ambition, and the percentage of your audience is small. The percentage of people who have true ambition, it might be 15 to 20%, maybe. Josh: Yeah. Russell: But those are your most ambition. I told them my Master, I didn't sell you guys new opportunity. Do you want to come to Boise and talk to other entrepreneurs? Or are you going to get better and stronger and smarter, all the ER words? You guys are the ones at the top of the value ladder. You are ambitious. So I'm not selling you new opportunity. I'm selling you guys improvement. And it's the hardest thing to sell, but it's what one tier of your audience wants. I feel like same thing, the people who are listening to your podcasts, these are the people who want improvement. These are the ambitious ones. They're not the tire kickers. And so it's the best way to convert people in their highest ticket backing things as well. Josh: Yeah. And I also think, one thing that's very important to point out, I think here, is the style slash type of podcast that you particularly create. Because I've studied a lot of different podcasts. Joe Rogan obviously is a big inspiration of mine when it just comes to creating content or whatever. But what's interesting is that the type of content that a Joe Rogan creates, or that even a Logan Paul or any of the bigger mainstream podcasts, oftentimes it's much more for entertainment. And Joe Rogan, I think, maybe is the blend between the two. But a lot of podcasts, they're not specifically for solving a very specific problem. And so what I always say about specifically the type of podcast that you create, you or Steve or whatever, your type of podcast is horrible for lead generation, but is amazing for lead education. It's because once they're in there, you have that. And what's interesting is one of the times that I listened to your podcast most... I'm going to let you guess. I'm sure you're not going to get it. But what do you think one of the times I listened to your podcast most? Russell: When you're driving somewhere in your car. Josh: That's a time. Yeah. But it's when I'm in pain. When I have a specific pain around my funnel, I will literally go, "Russell has this podcast. He's got all these episodes. I bet you he's talked about it." And so I'll literally go on my phone and I'll keyword search for different things. And I'll specifically go. There was one time I was listening to, it was something about a webinar or something, and you were talking about how you wrote your headlines and basically how you came up with your framework for it. And I remember you did that one time. And so I was struggling with it, and so I literally searched it and I did it. And so the type of podcast that you create, in my head there's two different ones. There's one for entertainment. And then there's one for education. And you create one specifically for education. And when you do that, that's the type of podcast or that's the type of content that literally goes and educates your member. And when you have that, a hundred percent, my top buyers, anybody that gives me top dollar for my stuff, they all listen to my podcast or have been on my podcast and I'll pull something out of it. They're always the ones that pay the most money. For sure. Russell: For sure. It's interesting too. And there's, as you said, a lot of formats. When I did mine, I did a short form for a couple reasons. Number one is it was my drive to the office, so that's how it started. But number two, I love Joe Rogan and I probably listen to one of his entire podcast ever. Josh: Oh my gosh. I probably listen to a hundred of them at least. Russell: And I get overwhelmed, because each one's four hours long and there's all these different people. Everyone keeps talking recently about the Jewel one. "It's the greatest thing in the world. You've got to listen to it." Four hours. I could get a whole audio book, the entire book done in four hours. Is that worth the investment? I don't ever want to dive into it, because it's so big. Whereas mine, again, someone's in the car and only got a 10 minute commute. Boom. Throw it in. They get an episode. And then what happens is they get hooked, and then they'll listen for four hours. So it's different though, because if Joe Rogan's were broken up into even 20 minute blocks, I would probably listen to all of them. Josh: YouTube Joe Rogan clips. It's Joe Rogan experience clips. And it's literally 20 minute episodes. Russell: Oh cool. Josh: So if you ever want to. Russell: That's probably what I would do. And I think it's interesting. And then also another nice thing about short form is people come in, they listen to one... And I get this all the time. People are like, "I got your podcast, listened to three or four episodes, and I loved it. So I started at the very beginning and I binge-listened to all of them." It happens all the time as well. Whereas Joe Rogan, you're not going to binge-listen because that's 65 years worth of content you're going to go through. Mine, they're short. I'm going to go to the beginning. And they start and they binge listen. And then they've gone through your journey with you. And by the time they show up, they know everything that you've ever said. And they're so much easier to work with if they've got that stuff. I think everyone needs... It's one of the things where you're not going to see a big return or not initially. But over time, if you're consistent with it, it's the best thing. And then obviously, I don't use my platform for this, but you do and I think it's brilliant. It gives you access to all these people. Whereas the interviewing people, you get access to people you can't otherwise. Josh: Doors open that you literally can't even understand simply because you're like, "Hey, I have a podcast and hey, I've got these couple other cool players on here. You want to come?" Alex Hormozi is coming on my podcast. I literally reached out to him, "I have a podcast." And a hundred percent, I'm going to admit something to you right now. I was like, "Hey, I had a podcast, and Russell's been on a couple times. You want to come on?" He's like, "I love Russell. Of course I'll come on your show." Russell: That's awesome. Josh: Crazy big doors that get open simply because you have a platform to be able to allow someone to use their voice as well. Russell: I remember, before Tony and I were super close, we met a couple times and stuff, but I remember he was doing some launch. I remember Lewis Howes and him did a big interview. And three or four people they interview sound so annoying. Why is Tony hanging out with these people and not me? And now all of a sudden, I had the ahas. "Lewis Howes has got a big podcast. Oh my gosh. Okay, I need to be able to offer my platform to him to get in that door and really build that relationship." And that's one of the powers of it too. You have a platform, now you've got ability to access people you can't otherwise. As you know. Josh: All right. Two rapid fire questions here really quick. Because I want to move on to the next topic to keep us on track. But number one, what's the Joe Rogan episode that you listened to all the way through? Do you remember which one it was? Russell: Oh, I do know. Yeah. And I actually hate that I listened this one. It was the Gary Vee one. Josh: Oh. Yeah. Russell: And the reason why I listened, because I want to be on Joe Rogan's podcast someday. And I want to see what Gary talked about because... As you know, Gary and I have a... He probably has idea who I am. Josh: You have a light beef. Russell: We've got an interesting relationship. He's not my... Anyway. I've got to make sure I'm the next internet marketer who actually does a better job. Josh: Okay. Two things on that. One, anybody listening, I'm going to do this, so don't take it, but I'll beat you to it. If you ever can get Russell Brunson on Joe Rogan, that's a great Dream 100 gift right there. That would be amazing. Secondly, I've listened to so many episode of Joe Rogan. One of my favorite ones is actually with Kanye. I know everyone thinks Kanye's an idiot. But if you can, that's five hours. It's insane. It's one of the most intense episodes I've ever listened to. But one that is a must-listen to, seriously one of the best podcast episodes ever done is his first interview with Elon Musk. If you ever get the chance, just sit down and listen to it. It's three or three and a half hours, but understanding that dude's mind, Elon Musk, you will not regret that three hours of your life. It was a fantastic episode. So that's the one. Russell: Very cool. Josh: Okay. Last thing here before we move on, are there any other points that we didn't cover about why someone should have a podcast? Wrap up, make your closing arguments around why somebody should go setup a podcast. Russell: The last one I'll say, and I quote Nathan Barry, actually, in Traffic Secrets. And I'll probably mess up the quote, but it was interesting. He talked about how... I think the title of the blog post I share is, You Got to Publish Long Enough to Get Noticed. And he talks about how for most of us there's so much content out nowadays. There's all these things. It's hard to know what's going to be good. 5,000 podcasts launched today. How many Netflix episodes, all sorts stuff. He says most of us find out about a good show at Season Two or Season Three, because of this, we waited to see, our friends talked about it. All of sudden it gets a breaking point where everyone's talking about it, and then you become this overnight success. It's interesting. He said you have to publish long enough to get noticed. And I think that's the biggest thing to understand. Especially most people who are getting started and they're so scared. "I'm going to look like an idiot." "They're all going to make fun of me." "I'm just a beginner." Blah, blah. All these different excuses. The good news is, at the very beginning, no one's listening. Josh: No one's listening. Russell: It doesn't matter. Just do it. This is your chance to actually find your voice and learn how to speak and tell stories, and all those things. No one's listening. And if you keep doing it, I tell people all the time, if you publish consistently for a year, that doesn't mean once a month for a year, daily for a year, or three, four times, five times a week consistently for year. Two things will happen. Number one, you'll find your voice. Number two, your audience will have a chance and have enough time to actually find you. And so it's going out there and just setting it up, the ROI. And I'm a big ROI. You look at my DiSC profile, my number one value is ROI. If I can't see the return on investment on something, it's hard for me to do. It's why I struggled in school. It's why I struggle in awkward conversations. Because I'm like, "What's the point of this?" I don't get it. Podcasting was hard, because I didn't know what the ROI was. And luckily again, I didn't see the stats for three years. Josh: Is that how long it was? It was three years? Russell: Yeah, before we figured out how to get the stats on it. Josh: That's crazy. Russell: But because of that, because I didn't know what the ROI was, and I was just hoping and praying with faith that it would be good. Now I see the ROI. Now it's important. Now I do it twice a week. Regardless, it happens in the queue, in the can because it's that important. Josh: If your number one thing is ROI and you figured out the podcast is worth it, guys, there's your selling point. Go start a podcast already. Russell: Got a podcast. Let's go. Josh: Honestly, it's amazing. And it's so much fun too. You learn so much about yourself. And I think the one thing I'll say about podcasting is you've got to really find your own unique style. I was listening to, I know you know Alex Becker, but Alex Becker is probably one of the biggest influencers in crypto right now. Just insane. One of my friends who got his NFT, and he's up a quarter million bucks in three months. Just insane stuff. One of the things that he said is right now in the industry, everybody is trying to become an influencer. And so he says, "I see all these people trying to model exactly what it is that I do." And he's like, "I have no problem with you guys doing that because I get it." At the beginning, you don't know your voice yet or whatever, but he's like, "You'll never be me." And I won't use the language that he used. But he's basically like, "There's only one me, so eventually model me, do whatever you need to do. But eventually go find your voice. Go find your own thing, because that's why people are going to watch you. I'm going to make sure that you're irrelevant if you try to model me long term." And so it's giving you that permission to model somebody at the beginning, but then, people are not going to listen to you if they can go listen to somebody else that has the exact same style. So it allows you to really be yourself when you give yourself permission to just try different things. And at the beginning, like you said, no one's listening. Russell: Yeah. It's funny talking about modeling. I talked about this yesterday on a call I was on. It's fascinating because people, they're trying to copy or model somebody because they're trying to get those people to attract the right audience. And Myron said, "You don't attract who you want, you attract who you are." And so if you're trying to be someone else, you're not going to... Because you want those customers. It's going to be weird. I remember when we launched ClickFunnels, I was trying to be like all the other internet marketing guys, because I thought I was competing against Ryan and Perry and Traffic & Conversion. So I was trying to be more corporatey businessy, like they were. Wait a minute. That's not me. I'm not going to wear a shirt and tie on stage. I'm not going to wear a suit jacket. I'm going to wear my t-shirts and jeans. And I'm going to talk about my family and God and wrestling and things I'm excited by. And I don't care about agency, not that I don't care agency, but I don't care about... I'm going to speak to the entrepreneur, because that's who I want. Wherein Ryan and Perry, literally, one of their Traffic & Conversions were, "This is less for the entrepreneur, more for your teams and your staff." It's crazy now because you look at the... I thought we were in the same market, but as soon as I leaned into who Russell was, it's separated. And it's not that one's better or worse. They're different, but if you go to Funnel Hacking Live, it’s my people. You're in the audience. Most of these people here are Christians, who are athletes, who've got kids, who are entrepreneurs, who are not doing this for the money, but doing it because they want to change the world. That's the overwhelming percentage of our audience. Not everyone. But as a whole we attract who we are. So lean into that, because otherwise you're going to attract people you don't like, and you're going to hate your life, and you're going to hate your business, you're going to hate your customers. But you put yourself out there, the people who do not resonate with you will leave on their own. You don't have to kick them out. They're be like, "Russell's annoying." I get people all the time, if I mention God on a podcast or anything, they're like, "If you're talking about God, I'm out." Sweet. All right. Bye. I'm good with that. I know people are like, "I don't believe in God, but I respect that you lean into it." They're cool too. But the people who are offended leave and the people who stick are the ones you want to hang out with anyway, because you attract who you are and not who you want to bring in. Josh: And I can talk about that topic super long, but I want to keep moving on the next piece here. Russell: That's it for the first episode then. Here with Josh on the Market Secrets Podcast. We're going to transition to the next one on the next episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices With everything we have to do... does podcasting really make sense?

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Russell Brunson:

What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. We've got three special episodes for you. The first one, well, actually all three of them are with my guest host, Josh Forti. We're going to be breaking down some cool things. The first episode... What happened in the first episode? It was really good.

Josh Forti:

Yeah. We talked all about podcasting, why podcasting is important.

Russell:

Yeah, podcasting. So episode number one, we learned about podcasting, why we do it, how we do it, the reasons behind it, and a whole bunch of other things. If you haven't been doing a podcast yet, it's going to sell you on why you need to do one. If you have done one, it's going to show you guys why and how to amplify it, and why it's so important and how to find your best buyers from it. I hope you guys enjoy this episode. We'll cue up the theme song, and we'll be right back.

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Like I said today, the next actually couple episodes, I've got a guest host with me, which I'm pumped for. We actually did two podcasts. Well, technically, they were podcasts episodes for your podcast, right?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And I ripped them off for my podcast because they turned out so good. One is after the Atlas Shrugged book, Josh Forti flew out, and we did... How long? We went for...

Josh:

It was three and three and a half hours. Yeah.

Russell:

Three hours. Yeah.

Josh:

Three and a half hours, yeah.

Russell:

Going deep into Atlas Shrugged, which was really fascinating. I actually just reread it recently, so if you want to do Round Two, we should totally do that. And then, after I read Atwood and the devil book, I freaked out, and then Josh flew out and we did one there. So you guys who have been listening to the podcast are familiar with him and his voice. But I asked him, I love doing the podcast, but sometimes I fall behind, and my brother who does our podcast settings, "Russell, any episode today?" I'm like, "Huh." I don't even know what to think. I want someone to help come up with ideas so it's not just me. And so Josh went out to the community, asked a bunch of questions and the next couple episodes are going to be some fun conversations. So I'm pumped, man. And thank you for doing this. I know this you're doing this pro bono to hang out and just to help me out, so I appreciate that. And I'm excited to find out what people want to know about.

Josh:

Yeah, for sure. I love podcasting. That's my life. If I could do one thing, it would just be, have a show that we just talk all the time. So this is fun for me. It's like asking you to come hang out and geek out about funnels. So I'm super excited, though. It's going to be super cool, and dive in further, and pick your brain, and open up a new world that I don't think a lot of people get to see.

Russell:

Yeah. It's interesting, because I feel that when it's me doing my own podcast, I pick a topic, I go into it. But it's fun when... Yesterday I had a chance to speak at a virtual event thing, and I did my thing and in the end people ask questions. It just opens up a different side that you don't normally do. And so I don't do a lot of Q&A stuff. So I'm excited to...

Josh:

Yeah. It's interesting.

Russell:

And maybe this is the only time we do this. Maybe it's a huge train wreck, and this is the only time it happens. Or maybe it becomes a thing. We'll find out.

Josh:

We'll try to make it not a train wreck. We'll try. We'll do our very best. I think one of the big things though that I want to start with and kick this whole thing off is why you spend so much time with podcasting. Because here's the thing, man. You're rich. We all know it. You don't have to do this. You have this company that you could. We all learned at funnel hacking live, you turned down a billion dollar offer, so clearly you're not doing this for the money. And you've got a company. You've got a team. You've got all these resources. You could spend money on ads. You could do whatever it is that you want. Yet, somehow you are calling me up and are like, "Dude, I need to do podcasts."

And to somebody who gets it, and I get it. I have a podcast. I dedicate time when it doesn't make sense. I put money into a podcast that doesn't make sense. On paper, I get and I understand content and putting it out there, and I've never been at your level either. I don't think a lot of people understand. Why do you do it, dude? Why a podcast? And why are you investing so much of the time that you have now, which is limited, I'm sure? There's a lot of people trying for your attention. Why a podcast? And why is that such a core, fundamental piece that you actually spend so much time on, when you clearly don't have to?

Russell:

I could probably, in fact, I'll probably give you four or five reasons, because there's not just one reason. There's a lot of them. And I actually, I remember when podcasting started. I was at at Armand Morin's BigSeminar, and someone was on stage, Paul Collier was on stage. He's like, "There's this thing coming. It's going to be the greatest thing in the world. It's called podcasting. And you're going to put these things in your ears and listen to people talk." I remember, "That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. No one will ever listen to that." I just didn't get it. He's like, "No, this is the future." And I remember because I was my roommate at the time was Josh Anderson, some of you may know Josh, and Josh went and bought every podcast domain he could think of.

And I was like, "You're dumb. That's never going to happen." But I do remember, "Well, if I ever did a podcast, I'd call it the Marketing In Your Car Podcast, because when I drive my car, I could record it. And I remember thinking that. And I remember I bought, at the time, Marketing In Your Car, and I did nothing with it for, I don't know, eight or nine years. I just had it. In fact, I even paid someone to write an intro song for it. So if you ever go back to the first episodes, the first hundred-something episodes, there was this really... At the time it was so cool, and now it's corny, but there was this theme song that some guy wrote for me. And I had it for five years, this theme song, and I never used it because I was like, "I don't get podcasting."

Then in my business life, we had grown up my company at the time. We had a hundred employees. And then, the long story you guys have heard before, is the company crashed. Everything fell around, and it went from a 20,000 square foot office to 2000 square foot office. I felt like an idiot. I was embarrassed. My status was at an all time low. I was weird. And for some reason in that season of my life, I had this impression, "You need to start podcasting and talk about marketing." And I was convinced at this time I was the worst marketer in the world, because I had just crashed my entire empire. I'm an idiot. I didn't want to, but I felt this impression like now it's time to start a podcast.

So I literally, from the ashes of my business, started this podcast, and I had at that time a four or five minute drive to the office. Okay, I can be consistent with this. It's going to happen all the time. I'm going to do it. So I got my phone out, I clicked record, and I would literally just drive to my office and I would just talk about what we were trying to figure out. "All right. Today, we're going in the office and working on this new offer, and this is what we're thinking and da, da, da." And then the next steps were, "Oh, we launched the offer and it worked." Or it didn't work. So we tried this. It was just me documenting. It's funny. I heard Vaynerchuk talk about, "Document your journey."

And I didn't know. That wasn't a thing at the time, but that's literally what I started doing. And it was nice, because it was something that was so easy. It was easy to be consistent with. I think if I would have had to do a podcast where, for me, if I had a studio and a microphone, all those things, I probably wouldn't have done it because I wouldn't have gotten enough momentum to stick with it. But it was easy. And at first the way we set it up, we couldn't track stats, so we had no idea if anyone was listening, which was a huge benefit. Because had I known how few people were listening, I probably wouldn't have kept doing it. But I just kept doing it and doing it, not really knowing what kind of return was going to happen.

It's funny now. I had someone, about a year ago, go through and start from the very beginning and listen all the episodes. I was trying to get some notes and trying to remember. And it was cool, because they started coming back, reporting. He's like, "Did you know on this day you talked about why you thought anyone who wanted to build a company over 10 million dollars in sales was a moron? You should never try to grow company that big. And then over here you talked about, you're never going to hire an employee again." All my thoughts at the time, which have morphed and shifted obviously. But it's this cool thing where I have this record now of this journey from the ashes to ClickFunnels and beyond. So it's been very special for me.

Josh:

Okay. Sorry. I want to continue down that path, I want to interject right there. The reason I started a podcast is because, literally, you told me to. You didn't physically be like, "Josh, start a podcast." But all your books, all your content, you're like, "Publish, publish, publish, publish, publish." And I'm like, "Okay." And so it started on Facebook. It started on Facebook Live, and then it grew. And then my friend Daxy, he is like, "Dude, turn it into a podcast. Way more people would listen." All right. So I have, I don't know, four or five hundred episodes now on my podcast that I have done with you and all these different interviews or whatever. But what I tell people is, and this is true in all areas of my life, I'm so blatantly honest on my podcast. I don't filter or mince my words at all. Shocking.

Russell:

You're filtered on Facebook and Instagram, you're telling me?

Josh:

Just a little bit. But what's interesting is one of the things that you pointed out there was you have this document. You have this record of exactly where you were at at the time. And so for me, one of the things... And this is bigger than just podcasting. When you're just blatantly honest with yourself and where things are at, and you just turn on the microphone and you just talk, you actually can go back and you can watch your progress. And you can see. Oh man, when I was 26 years old, when this happened, this is what I thought about life, or this is what I thought about this particular topic, or this is what I was learning here. When I'm building a funnel or I'm building something that I knew I worked on in the past and I talked about it, I can literally go back, and I can remember the struggles.

And I think it was you. It might have been. It might have not been you. It might have been Gary. I think it was you, though. You were like, "Imagine if Jeff Bezos would've documented every single day or every single week building Amazon." How much people would pay for that. That would be so epically cool. That's what it's like. So I totally understand what you're talking about there. I feel like people are embarrassed to start, they're embarrassed where they're at now.

And so they don't want to put it out there. I'll never forget Liz Benny. Obviously, you know Liz. She's amazing. I had her on my podcast. This is probably a year and a half ago. And she's like, "Josh, I've watched you grow so much." And I'm like, "Really?" She's like, "Oh yeah." I'm like, "How do you know?" She's like, "Because I listen to your podcast." And it was like, "Oh, this is a long term thing." It was at that moment that I realized it.

Russell:

Uh huh. For sure. It's interesting because, if I haven't publicly talked much about this yet, but I've been acquiring old books. I just bought this whole, literally, library of Napoleon Hill books and stuff. And it's been so fascinating because I'm reading through and these are the records of these people and their beliefs and their thoughts. I've got old magazines from early 1900s, late 1800s. I'm reading. I found articles from Thomas Edison, who were in the publishing these. I'm reading this stuff and it's so cool. And one thing, this is Russell guilt. In the Mormon church one thing they always talk about is, you need to keep a journal, so that way your posterity has this thing. And I've never been good at keeping a journal.

And what I started realizing as I'm going through all the Napoleon Hill stuff, I'm so grateful that they wrote these things down and they have this journal. And I started from that guilt again. And all of a sudden I was like, "Wait a minute. I don't have a journal, but I've been podcasting now for seven years." This is my record. This is, when I'm dead, my kids or my grandkids or my posterity or people, whoever it is. This is how they're going to learn about me and figure out who I was. And hopefully I shortcut them some trial and error. Here's the journey I went on, but here's what I figured out. I can help them. I think all of us are always talking about wanting to leave an impact. I think my podcast episodes, I'm hoping these are my journals. These are my records.

This is like what I just bought from Napoleon Hill. I'm hoping that this becomes something for the future generations that they can build their businesses off and their ideas and their plans. Because my podcast is... It's a marketing podcast, but I don't talk about marketing most of the time. I talk about my family and my kids, and I'm learning, and my personal development and all the things. Marketing is just the hook I got people in, but it's my life record. It's my journal, which is cool too.

Josh:

Yeah, that is super cool. It's funny. Quick side note, we have to shut down this indifferent theory, because Apple....

Russell:

Just spell it different.

Josh:

Yeah. Believe me. We've tried some things. I'm not trying to push against the biggest company in the world. So anyway, we have a new name. I'm not going to say it yet, but it's coming. But anyway, in the last just couple weeks, I've had to pause doing podcasts. And it's weird because what you said right there is, "I don't keep a journal." But I know that I do keep a journal via that exact same thing. And it was weird. I went to my wife literally two days ago. And I was like, "I need you to, to help me create a system for the short term to be able to document my thoughts because right now I'm not doing it. And I have so many things that we're going through right now." So I totally get that. But I feel like there's got to be more than that. There's got to be another reason besides just the documentation process for the podcast for you.

Russell:

For sure. That's the first thing. Again, I got four or five that run in my head, so I don't know what the order they'll come out in. But the next one is eventually I wrote a book. And people were like, "These books are so good. How do you know all these stories?" And for me, I have an idea, and the idea percolates in my head for a minute, and I got to tell someone. So usually first person I tell is usually the podcast. I'm thinking about this thing and I talk about it. And so I tell the story the first time. The first time it may not even be that fleshed out. Then I get to the office and I see Dave over there. Dave's excited. I'm like, "Dave, check this out."

And I tell it to him again. And then I tell someone else. And then I'm doing an interview and I say it again. And I tell the story four or five, six times, and I get better and better at telling the story. And then when I'm at a seminar and I'm on stage and I'm talking. I have no idea which direction I'm going. All of a sudden, this thing will pop up my head. I've told that story six times three months ago, and it appears. I remember Tony Robbins told me this. He said, "When I go on stage, I have a plan, but the plan, it never goes to plan. I start talking." And then he's like, "These downloads just come from God or from the universe, and they just show up."

And for me, as I started podcasting and telling these stories over and over and over again, that's exactly what happens now. When I need something, I'm in a situation, I'm coaching someone, I talking, I'm on an event or a stage or something. I need something often that just, it appears when I need it. And I think it's because I didn't just think about it and forget about it. I think about it. I tell it on a story. It's published. I tell someone else. And then when I write a book, I've told the story 400 times. I know the best way to tell the story now. I've seen what people laugh at, what they don't laugh at, how to do it the right way.

In fact, it's interesting, my next book is a personal development book. I've struggled with that one, because I don't have a personal development podcast. And I haven't tested these stories, these principles or these theories. I've been stuck, as you know. I sent you the rough draft eight months ago, and I haven't written a word since then. Part of it is I haven't had a chance to flesh these things out. So it gives me idea to flush out my ideas is another one of them.

Another one that's interesting... I don't know the exact stats, but I read it somewhere. I think I talked about on Traffic Secrets.I put it in there. But conceptually, they talked about people who are podcast listeners versus the rest of humanity. And I'm going to tell you about the stat, and I'll tell you how the practical application of that stat, which is really fascinating.

So the stat was something like the average person who listens to the radio makes, I don't know, $60,000 a year. And whereas the average podcast listener makes $120,000 a year. So the people you are getting and acquiring, they are people with more spending power. They're more affluent people that are the kind of people who are trying to develop their brain, their minds, things like that. They're more likely to buy a course or software or a Mastermind or things like that, because they're the kind of people who aren't just listening to the radio to numb themselves. They're listening to audio to grow. That's the fascinating thing that you're getting a better caliber customer who are listening.

Number two, you are getting them in their most intimate moments. When do you listen to a podcast? It's when I'm working out and I'm by myself and it's me and them, and I have their full attention. I'm not listening to a podcast where I'm writing an email or texting someone. Or I'm in the car driving. I'm getting access to their brains and their minds in their most intimate moments. But it's just me and them. Even video.

Josh:

It's not even like that on YouTube either.

Russell:

Yeah. I'll watch a YouTube video while I'm cooking dinner, while I'm doing five other things.

Josh:

That's super interesting.

Russell:

I don't listen to podcasts with my kids in the room, because they're going to ask me a question. They're going to mess it up. It's when I'm separate and it's just me and them and that's it. I have a different level of intimacy with the podcast people that I'm listening to. So the higher quality customers, better level of intimacy, and then the practical application. The first time I really got this, it was after I launched my Inner Circle the very first time. And again, it was funny, because I always told everybody I never money on my podcast. I’m doing this podcast, I'm not making any money from it… And as I did it for four or five years, and I launched my first version of my first version of my Inner Circle, and we had a point where we had about 33 people in it paying 25 grand.

And I remember at one of the events, somebody asked, "How did you guys bump into Russell?" And all of them were like, "Oh, I saw something, but then I got on this podcast, and I listened to him every single day while I was working out for six months. And he kept talking about this Inner Circle and talking about this thing. He's going to get all these things." And it was fascinating. Almost everyone in the room, they didn't hear about my podcast. Podcast isn't good for lead gen. It's never.

Josh:

Yeah. It's horrible for lead gen.

Russell:

You can't just buy ads and blow up your podcast. But people find out about you. They plug in to your podcast. And the people who make that transition from, "I saw a book." "I saw an ad." "I saw something." And they make that transition where they actually get the phone out, subscribe, and then plug you in. Those become your best customers, your highest buyers. They're the best. And so the practical application is yes, by doing this podcast, I'm taking... And I talk about this in Expert Secrets. And actually my Inner Circle meeting last month, we talked a lot about this. We talked about creating a new opportunity versus an improvement offer. And for the most part you want to create new opportunities. That's what gets people in the door.

And I told everyone, your value ladder should be this new opportunity. There's opportunity stacking. The back of the value ladder, there's one section that's saved for people with ambition. New opportunity is all about getting people who have a desire to come in. But people with ambition, and the percentage of your audience is small. The percentage of people who have true ambition, it might be 15 to 20%, maybe.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

But those are your most ambition. I told them my Master, I didn't sell you guys new opportunity. Do you want to come to Boise and talk to other entrepreneurs? Or are you going to get better and stronger and smarter, all the ER words? You guys are the ones at the top of the value ladder. You are ambitious. So I'm not selling you new opportunity. I'm selling you guys improvement. And it's the hardest thing to sell, but it's what one tier of your audience wants. I feel like same thing, the people who are listening to your podcasts, these are the people who want improvement. These are the ambitious ones. They're not the tire kickers. And so it's the best way to convert people in their highest ticket backing things as well.

Josh:

Yeah. And I also think, one thing that's very important to point out, I think here, is the style slash type of podcast that you particularly create. Because I've studied a lot of different podcasts. Joe Rogan obviously is a big inspiration of mine when it just comes to creating content or whatever. But what's interesting is that the type of content that a Joe Rogan creates, or that even a Logan Paul or any of the bigger mainstream podcasts, oftentimes it's much more for entertainment.

And Joe Rogan, I think, maybe is the blend between the two. But a lot of podcasts, they're not specifically for solving a very specific problem. And so what I always say about specifically the type of podcast that you create, you or Steve or whatever, your type of podcast is horrible for lead generation, but is amazing for lead education. It's because once they're in there, you have that. And what's interesting is one of the times that I listened to your podcast most... I'm going to let you guess. I'm sure you're not going to get it. But what do you think one of the times I listened to your podcast most?

Russell:

When you're driving somewhere in your car.

Josh:

That's a time. Yeah. But it's when I'm in pain. When I have a specific pain around my funnel, I will literally go, "Russell has this podcast. He's got all these episodes. I bet you he's talked about it." And so I'll literally go on my phone and I'll keyword search for different things. And I'll specifically go. There was one time I was listening to, it was something about a webinar or something, and you were talking about how you wrote your headlines and basically how you came up with your framework for it. And I remember you did that one time. And so I was struggling with it, and so I literally searched it and I did it.

And so the type of podcast that you create, in my head there's two different ones. There's one for entertainment. And then there's one for education. And you create one specifically for education. And when you do that, that's the type of podcast or that's the type of content that literally goes and educates your member. And when you have that, a hundred percent, my top buyers, anybody that gives me top dollar for my stuff, they all listen to my podcast or have been on my podcast and I'll pull something out of it. They're always the ones that pay the most money. For sure.

Russell:

For sure. It's interesting too. And there's, as you said, a lot of formats. When I did mine, I did a short form for a couple reasons. Number one is it was my drive to the office, so that's how it started. But number two, I love Joe Rogan and I probably listen to one of his entire podcast ever.

Josh:

Oh my gosh. I probably listen to a hundred of them at least.

Russell:

And I get overwhelmed, because each one's four hours long and there's all these different people. Everyone keeps talking recently about the Jewel one. "It's the greatest thing in the world. You've got to listen to it." Four hours. I could get a whole audio book, the entire book done in four hours. Is that worth the investment? I don't ever want to dive into it, because it's so big. Whereas mine, again, someone's in the car and only got a 10 minute commute. Boom. Throw it in. They get an episode. And then what happens is they get hooked, and then they'll listen for four hours. So it's different though, because if Joe Rogan's were broken up into even 20 minute blocks, I would probably listen to all of them.

Josh:

YouTube Joe Rogan clips. It's Joe Rogan experience clips. And it's literally 20 minute episodes.

Russell:

Oh cool.

Josh:

So if you ever want to.

Russell:

That's probably what I would do. And I think it's interesting. And then also another nice thing about short form is people come in, they listen to one... And I get this all the time. People are like, "I got your podcast, listened to three or four episodes, and I loved it. So I started at the very beginning and I binge-listened to all of them." It happens all the time as well. Whereas Joe Rogan, you're not going to binge-listen because that's 65 years worth of content you're going to go through. Mine, they're short. I'm going to go to the beginning. And they start and they binge listen. And then they've gone through your journey with you. And by the time they show up, they know everything that you've ever said. And they're so much easier to work with if they've got that stuff.

I think everyone needs... It's one of the things where you're not going to see a big return or not initially. But over time, if you're consistent with it, it's the best thing. And then obviously, I don't use my platform for this, but you do and I think it's brilliant. It gives you access to all these people. Whereas the interviewing people, you get access to people you can't otherwise.

Josh:

Doors open that you literally can't even understand simply because you're like, "Hey, I have a podcast and hey, I've got these couple other cool players on here. You want to come?" Alex Hormozi is coming on my podcast. I literally reached out to him, "I have a podcast." And a hundred percent, I'm going to admit something to you right now. I was like, "Hey, I had a podcast, and Russell's been on a couple times. You want to come on?" He's like, "I love Russell. Of course I'll come on your show."

Russell:

That's awesome.

Josh:

Crazy big doors that get open simply because you have a platform to be able to allow someone to use their voice as well.

Russell:

I remember, before Tony and I were super close, we met a couple times and stuff, but I remember he was doing some launch. I remember Lewis Howes and him did a big interview. And three or four people they interview sound so annoying. Why is Tony hanging out with these people and not me? And now all of a sudden, I had the ahas. "Lewis Howes has got a big podcast. Oh my gosh. Okay, I need to be able to offer my platform to him to get in that door and really build that relationship." And that's one of the powers of it too. You have a platform, now you've got ability to access people you can't otherwise. As you know.

Josh:

All right. Two rapid fire questions here really quick. Because I want to move on to the next topic to keep us on track. But number one, what's the Joe Rogan episode that you listened to all the way through? Do you remember which one it was?

Russell:

Oh, I do know. Yeah. And I actually hate that I listened this one. It was the Gary Vee one.

Josh:

Oh. Yeah.

Russell:

And the reason why I listened, because I want to be on Joe Rogan's podcast someday. And I want to see what Gary talked about because... As you know, Gary and I have a... He probably has idea who I am.

Josh:

You have a light beef.

Russell:

We've got an interesting relationship. He's not my... Anyway. I've got to make sure I'm the next internet marketer who actually does a better job.

Josh:

Okay. Two things on that. One, anybody listening, I'm going to do this, so don't take it, but I'll beat you to it. If you ever can get Russell Brunson on Joe Rogan, that's a great Dream 100 gift right there. That would be amazing. Secondly, I've listened to so many episode of Joe Rogan. One of my favorite ones is actually with Kanye. I know everyone thinks Kanye's an idiot. But if you can, that's five hours. It's insane. It's one of the most intense episodes I've ever listened to. But one that is a must-listen to, seriously one of the best podcast episodes ever done is his first interview with Elon Musk. If you ever get the chance, just sit down and listen to it. It's three or three and a half hours, but understanding that dude's mind, Elon Musk, you will not regret that three hours of your life. It was a fantastic episode. So that's the one.

Russell:

Very cool.

Josh:

Okay. Last thing here before we move on, are there any other points that we didn't cover about why someone should have a podcast? Wrap up, make your closing arguments around why somebody should go setup a podcast.

Russell:

The last one I'll say, and I quote Nathan Barry, actually, in Traffic Secrets. And I'll probably mess up the quote, but it was interesting. He talked about how... I think the title of the blog post I share is, You Got to Publish Long Enough to Get Noticed. And he talks about how for most of us there's so much content out nowadays. There's all these things. It's hard to know what's going to be good. 5,000 podcasts launched today. How many Netflix episodes, all sorts stuff. He says most of us find out about a good show at Season Two or Season Three, because of this, we waited to see, our friends talked about it. All of sudden it gets a breaking point where everyone's talking about it, and then you become this overnight success. It's interesting. He said you have to publish long enough to get noticed.

And I think that's the biggest thing to understand. Especially most people who are getting started and they're so scared. "I'm going to look like an idiot." "They're all going to make fun of me." "I'm just a beginner." Blah, blah. All these different excuses. The good news is, at the very beginning, no one's listening.

Josh:

No one's listening.

Russell:

It doesn't matter. Just do it. This is your chance to actually find your voice and learn how to speak and tell stories, and all those things. No one's listening. And if you keep doing it, I tell people all the time, if you publish consistently for a year, that doesn't mean once a month for a year, daily for a year, or three, four times, five times a week consistently for year. Two things will happen.

Number one, you'll find your voice. Number two, your audience will have a chance and have enough time to actually find you. And so it's going out there and just setting it up, the ROI. And I'm a big ROI. You look at my DiSC profile, my number one value is ROI. If I can't see the return on investment on something, it's hard for me to do. It's why I struggled in school. It's why I struggle in awkward conversations. Because I'm like, "What's the point of this?" I don't get it. Podcasting was hard, because I didn't know what the ROI was. And luckily again, I didn't see the stats for three years.

Josh:

Is that how long it was? It was three years?

Russell:

Yeah, before we figured out how to get the stats on it.

Josh:

That's crazy.

Russell:

But because of that, because I didn't know what the ROI was, and I was just hoping and praying with faith that it would be good. Now I see the ROI. Now it's important. Now I do it twice a week. Regardless, it happens in the queue, in the can because it's that important.

Josh:

If your number one thing is ROI and you figured out the podcast is worth it, guys, there's your selling point. Go start a podcast already.

Russell:

Got a podcast. Let's go.

Josh:

Honestly, it's amazing. And it's so much fun too. You learn so much about yourself. And I think the one thing I'll say about podcasting is you've got to really find your own unique style. I was listening to, I know you know Alex Becker, but Alex Becker is probably one of the biggest influencers in crypto right now. Just insane. One of my friends who got his NFT, and he's up a quarter million bucks in three months. Just insane stuff. One of the things that he said is right now in the industry, everybody is trying to become an influencer. And so he says, "I see all these people trying to model exactly what it is that I do."

And he's like, "I have no problem with you guys doing that because I get it." At the beginning, you don't know your voice yet or whatever, but he's like, "You'll never be me." And I won't use the language that he used. But he's basically like, "There's only one me, so eventually model me, do whatever you need to do. But eventually go find your voice. Go find your own thing, because that's why people are going to watch you. I'm going to make sure that you're irrelevant if you try to model me long term." And so it's giving you that permission to model somebody at the beginning, but then, people are not going to listen to you if they can go listen to somebody else that has the exact same style. So it allows you to really be yourself when you give yourself permission to just try different things. And at the beginning, like you said, no one's listening.

Russell:

Yeah. It's funny talking about modeling. I talked about this yesterday on a call I was on. It's fascinating because people, they're trying to copy or model somebody because they're trying to get those people to attract the right audience. And Myron said, "You don't attract who you want, you attract who you are." And so if you're trying to be someone else, you're not going to... Because you want those customers. It's going to be weird. I remember when we launched ClickFunnels, I was trying to be like all the other internet marketing guys, because I thought I was competing against Ryan and Perry and Traffic & Conversion. So I was trying to be more corporatey businessy, like they were.

Wait a minute. That's not me. I'm not going to wear a shirt and tie on stage. I'm not going to wear a suit jacket. I'm going to wear my t-shirts and jeans. And I'm going to talk about my family and God and wrestling and things I'm excited by. And I don't care about agency, not that I don't care agency, but I don't care about... I'm going to speak to the entrepreneur, because that's who I want. Wherein Ryan and Perry, literally, one of their Traffic & Conversions were, "This is less for the entrepreneur, more for your teams and your staff." It's crazy now because you look at the... I thought we were in the same market, but as soon as I leaned into who Russell was, it's separated. And it's not that one's better or worse. They're different, but if you go to Funnel Hacking Live, it’s my people.

You're in the audience. Most of these people here are Christians, who are athletes, who've got kids, who are entrepreneurs, who are not doing this for the money, but doing it because they want to change the world. That's the overwhelming percentage of our audience. Not everyone. But as a whole we attract who we are. So lean into that, because otherwise you're going to attract people you don't like, and you're going to hate your life, and you're going to hate your business, you're going to hate your customers. But you put yourself out there, the people who do not resonate with you will leave on their own. You don't have to kick them out. They're be like, "Russell's annoying."

I get people all the time, if I mention God on a podcast or anything, they're like, "If you're talking about God, I'm out." Sweet. All right. Bye. I'm good with that. I know people are like, "I don't believe in God, but I respect that you lean into it." They're cool too. But the people who are offended leave and the people who stick are the ones you want to hang out with anyway, because you attract who you are and not who you want to bring in.

Josh:

And I can talk about that topic super long, but I want to keep moving on the next piece here.

Russell:

That's it for the first episode then. Here with Josh on the Market Secrets Podcast. We're going to transition to the next one on the next episode.

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]]> 2010 no Marketing Secrets From An Auctioneer https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/marketing-secrets-from-an-auctioneer Here's a quick breakdown of the cool things I witnessed at a recent fundraiser for my boys' wrestling team and how these salesmanship and marketing strategies can be applied to your business: 1. Building Rapport Quickly:   - The auctioneers started by sharing personal stories and jokes to build rapport with the audience, making them more receptive to the sales process. 2. Training the Audience to Buy:   - The auctioneers used a low-risk offer ($20 for a chance to win $500) to teach the audience how to bid. This technique, which I learned from Bill Glazer, is effective because it makes the audience comfortable with the buying process before asking them for larger purchases. 3. Creating Social Proof:   - The auctioneers had assistants in the audience who made noise and interacted with bidders, creating an energetic atmosphere. This approach heightened the perception of activity and demand, similar to how table rushes work at live events. 4. Identifying and Engaging Key Bidders:   - The assistants identified the most interested bidders and focused on them, encouraging higher bids through personal engagement and social pressure. 5. Leveraging Cross-Industry Strategies:   - By observing successful techniques in other industries, such as network marketing's car incentives, we can adapt and apply these methods to our own businesses. This practice, as taught by Jay Abraham, allows for innovative strategies to enhance sales and marketing efforts. For more insights and updates, follow me on Instagram @russellbrunson, text me at 208-231-3797, or join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com. You can also connect with me on Clubhouse at ClubHouseWithRussell.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Marketing Secrets From An Auctioneer full 466 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Cool things I witnessed at a recent fundraiser for my boys’ wrestling. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell. I just jumped in the Tesla. I'm going... Here's a quick breakdown of the cool things I witnessed at a recent fundraiser for my boys' wrestling team and how these salesmanship and marketing strategies can be applied to your business: 1. Building Rapport Quickly:   - The auctioneers started by sharing personal stories and jokes to build rapport with the audience, making them more receptive to the sales process. 2. Training the Audience to Buy:   - The auctioneers used a low-risk offer ($20 for a chance to win $500) to teach the audience how to bid. This technique, which I learned from Bill Glazer, is effective because it makes the audience comfortable with the buying process before asking them for larger purchases. 3. Creating Social Proof:   - The auctioneers had assistants in the audience who made noise and interacted with bidders, creating an energetic atmosphere. This approach heightened the perception of activity and demand, similar to how table rushes work at live events. 4. Identifying and Engaging Key Bidders:   - The assistants identified the most interested bidders and focused on them, encouraging higher bids through personal engagement and social pressure. 5. Leveraging Cross-Industry Strategies:   - By observing successful techniques in other industries, such as network marketing's car incentives, we can adapt and apply these methods to our own businesses. This practice, as taught by Jay Abraham, allows for innovative strategies to enhance sales and marketing efforts. For more insights and updates, follow me on Instagram @russellbrunson, text me at 208-231-3797, or join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com. You can also connect with me on Clubhouse at ClubHouseWithRussell.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here's a quick breakdown of the cool things I witnessed at a recent fundraiser for my boys' wrestling team and how these salesmanship and marketing strategies can be applied to your business:


1. Building Rapport Quickly:

  - The auctioneers started by sharing personal stories and jokes to build rapport with the audience, making them more receptive to the sales process.


2. Training the Audience to Buy:

  - The auctioneers used a low-risk offer ($20 for a chance to win $500) to teach the audience how to bid. This technique, which I learned from Bill Glazer, is effective because it makes the audience comfortable with the buying process before asking them for larger purchases.


3. Creating Social Proof:

  - The auctioneers had assistants in the audience who made noise and interacted with bidders, creating an energetic atmosphere. This approach heightened the perception of activity and demand, similar to how table rushes work at live events.


4. Identifying and Engaging Key Bidders:

  - The assistants identified the most interested bidders and focused on them, encouraging higher bids through personal engagement and social pressure.


5. Leveraging Cross-Industry Strategies:

  - By observing successful techniques in other industries, such as network marketing's car incentives, we can adapt and apply these methods to our own businesses. This practice, as taught by Jay Abraham, allows for innovative strategies to enhance sales and marketing efforts.


For more insights and updates, follow me on Instagram @russellbrunson, text me at 208-231-3797, or join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com. You can also connect with me on Clubhouse at ClubHouseWithRussell.com.

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]]> 842 no Lean In... (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/lean-in-revisited Here's a shortened version: Hey everyone, Russell here. I wanted to share a story about leaning in when times get tough. Recently, Steven Larsen and I were discussing the Two Comma Club X coaching program. One member, Marie, was struggling with payments. Instead of quitting, Steven told her to lean in. And she did. Despite the challenges, Marie built a successful business helping people launch podcasts. The lesson is simple: when faced with adversity, lean in. It's about doubling down and going all in, even when it's scary. I've seen this principle work in my life, from sports to business. Leaning in during tough times often leads to greatness on the other side. So, remember to lean in when life throws challenges your way. It could be the key to your success. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Lean In... (Revisited!) full 465 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy this throwback episode where Russell explains a powerful concept that could help you and your business when times get tough. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  --Transcript--- Good morning... Here's a shortened version: Hey everyone, Russell here. I wanted to share a story about leaning in when times get tough. Recently, Steven Larsen and I were discussing the Two Comma Club X coaching program. One member, Marie, was struggling with payments. Instead of quitting, Steven told her to lean in. And she did. Despite the challenges, Marie built a successful business helping people launch podcasts. The lesson is simple: when faced with adversity, lean in. It's about doubling down and going all in, even when it's scary. I've seen this principle work in my life, from sports to business. Leaning in during tough times often leads to greatness on the other side. So, remember to lean in when life throws challenges your way. It could be the key to your success. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here's a shortened version:


Hey everyone, Russell here. I wanted to share a story about leaning in when times get tough. Recently, Steven Larsen and I were discussing the Two Comma Club X coaching program. One member, Marie, was struggling with payments. Instead of quitting, Steven told her to lean in. And she did. Despite the challenges, Marie built a successful business helping people launch podcasts.


The lesson is simple: when faced with adversity, lean in. It's about doubling down and going all in, even when it's scary. I've seen this principle work in my life, from sports to business. Leaning in during tough times often leads to greatness on the other side.


So, remember to lean in when life throws challenges your way. It could be the key to your success.

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]]> 1210 no Untangling Your Value Maze https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/untangling-your-value-maze My personal biggest take-away from Inner Circle mastermind. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Russell Brunson shared insights on simplifying the value ladder concept. He mentioned waking up in a good mood and reflected on the evolving complexity of his value ladder over time. He encouraged listeners to start with his "Dotcom Secrets" book and outlined the concept of the value ladder, emphasizing the importance of providing value at each step to guide customers through the journey. Drawing parallels with dating, he explained how building relationships progresses through providing incremental value. Russell admitted that despite his efforts, his own value ladder had become convoluted, leading to the need for restructuring. He discussed the challenges of letting go of beloved programs to streamline the value ladder and create a clearer path for customers. Russell highlighted the benefits of a well-defined value ladder, including improved scalability and customer acquisition. He urged listeners to assess their own value ladder and make necessary adjustments to avoid a maze-like structure. Finally, he emphasized the value of self-coaching through these processes, akin to having a consultant. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Untangling Your Value Maze full 464 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My personal biggest take-away from Inner Circle mastermind. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets... My personal biggest take-away from Inner Circle mastermind. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Russell Brunson shared insights on simplifying the value ladder concept. He mentioned waking up in a good mood and reflected on the evolving complexity of his value ladder over time. He encouraged listeners to start with his "Dotcom Secrets" book and outlined the concept of the value ladder, emphasizing the importance of providing value at each step to guide customers through the journey. Drawing parallels with dating, he explained how building relationships progresses through providing incremental value. Russell admitted that despite his efforts, his own value ladder had become convoluted, leading to the need for restructuring. He discussed the challenges of letting go of beloved programs to streamline the value ladder and create a clearer path for customers. Russell highlighted the benefits of a well-defined value ladder, including improved scalability and customer acquisition. He urged listeners to assess their own value ladder and make necessary adjustments to avoid a maze-like structure. Finally, he emphasized the value of self-coaching through these processes, akin to having a consultant. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My personal biggest take-away from Inner Circle mastermind.

Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com

Russell Brunson shared insights on simplifying the value ladder concept. He mentioned waking up in a good mood and reflected on the evolving complexity of his value ladder over time. He encouraged listeners to start with his "Dotcom Secrets" book and outlined the concept of the value ladder, emphasizing the importance of providing value at each step to guide customers through the journey. Drawing parallels with dating, he explained how building relationships progresses through providing incremental value. Russell admitted that despite his efforts, his own value ladder had become convoluted, leading to the need for restructuring. He discussed the challenges of letting go of beloved programs to streamline the value ladder and create a clearer path for customers. Russell highlighted the benefits of a well-defined value ladder, including improved scalability and customer acquisition. He urged listeners to assess their own value ladder and make necessary adjustments to avoid a maze-like structure. Finally, he emphasized the value of self-coaching through these processes, akin to having a consultant.

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]]> 672 no Secret Dan Kennedy Fax Reveals A Nugget Of Gold https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/secret-dan-kennedy-fax-reveals-a-nugget-of-gold Russell Brunson shares a vital marketing lesson from Dan Kennedy about the difference between why customers join a business (acquisition) and why they stay (retention). Brunson recounts discovering this insight in a confidential fax from Kennedy while reviewing archives of Magnetic Marketing, a company he acquired. Kennedy’s fax highlighted that the factors driving initial customer entry are almost never the same as those that keep them engaged over time. For instance, many join Brunson’s Inner Circle to learn directly from him but stay because of the community and relationships they build. This led to the rebranding of his Inner Circle as "Inner Circle For Life," emphasizing long-term retention. This principle also applies to Funnel Hacking Live events. Attendees may initially be drawn by the promise of learning about the perfect funnel but return for the community and intangible benefits. While many industry events shrink over time, Funnel Hacking Live grows, demonstrating the power of a strong community. Brunson shares his experience at a Dan Kennedy seminar where he observed long-time followers of Kennedy. Despite Kennedy’s claim that he hadn’t introduced new concepts in decades, his followers remained loyal due to the relationships, stories, and community he fostered. Brunson contrasts this with his early supplement business, which was profitable but lacked retention, highlighting the importance of building lasting customer relationships. To address retention issues, he advises businesses to develop a culture and community that encourages long-term engagement. He references his book "Expert Secrets," which delves into building mass movements and fostering customer loyalty through identity and community. Brunson concludes by reiterating Kennedy’s wisdom: the reasons for entry and the reasons for staying are fundamentally different and not even close. Understanding and leveraging this distinction is crucial for long-term business success and customer retention. In summary, Brunson emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing the different factors that attract and retain customers. By focusing on building a strong community and fostering relationships, businesses can ensure long-term loyalty and success. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Nov 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Secret Dan Kennedy Fax Reveals A Nugget Of Gold full 463 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Reasons for entry vs reasons to stay. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to... Russell Brunson shares a vital marketing lesson from Dan Kennedy about the difference between why customers join a business (acquisition) and why they stay (retention). Brunson recounts discovering this insight in a confidential fax from Kennedy while reviewing archives of Magnetic Marketing, a company he acquired. Kennedy’s fax highlighted that the factors driving initial customer entry are almost never the same as those that keep them engaged over time. For instance, many join Brunson’s Inner Circle to learn directly from him but stay because of the community and relationships they build. This led to the rebranding of his Inner Circle as "Inner Circle For Life," emphasizing long-term retention. This principle also applies to Funnel Hacking Live events. Attendees may initially be drawn by the promise of learning about the perfect funnel but return for the community and intangible benefits. While many industry events shrink over time, Funnel Hacking Live grows, demonstrating the power of a strong community. Brunson shares his experience at a Dan Kennedy seminar where he observed long-time followers of Kennedy. Despite Kennedy’s claim that he hadn’t introduced new concepts in decades, his followers remained loyal due to the relationships, stories, and community he fostered. Brunson contrasts this with his early supplement business, which was profitable but lacked retention, highlighting the importance of building lasting customer relationships. To address retention issues, he advises businesses to develop a culture and community that encourages long-term engagement. He references his book "Expert Secrets," which delves into building mass movements and fostering customer loyalty through identity and community. Brunson concludes by reiterating Kennedy’s wisdom: the reasons for entry and the reasons for staying are fundamentally different and not even close. Understanding and leveraging this distinction is crucial for long-term business success and customer retention. In summary, Brunson emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing the different factors that attract and retain customers. By focusing on building a strong community and fostering relationships, businesses can ensure long-term loyalty and success. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell Brunson shares a vital marketing lesson from Dan Kennedy about the difference between why customers join a business (acquisition) and why they stay (retention). Brunson recounts discovering this insight in a confidential fax from Kennedy while reviewing archives of Magnetic Marketing, a company he acquired.


Kennedy’s fax highlighted that the factors driving initial customer entry are almost never the same as those that keep them engaged over time. For instance, many join Brunson’s Inner Circle to learn directly from him but stay because of the community and relationships they build. This led to the rebranding of his Inner Circle as "Inner Circle For Life," emphasizing long-term retention.


This principle also applies to Funnel Hacking Live events. Attendees may initially be drawn by the promise of learning about the perfect funnel but return for the community and intangible benefits. While many industry events shrink over time, Funnel Hacking Live grows, demonstrating the power of a strong community.


Brunson shares his experience at a Dan Kennedy seminar where he observed long-time followers of Kennedy. Despite Kennedy’s claim that he hadn’t introduced new concepts in decades, his followers remained loyal due to the relationships, stories, and community he fostered.


Brunson contrasts this with his early supplement business, which was profitable but lacked retention, highlighting the importance of building lasting customer relationships. To address retention issues, he advises businesses to develop a culture and community that encourages long-term engagement. He references his book "Expert Secrets," which delves into building mass movements and fostering customer loyalty through identity and community.


Brunson concludes by reiterating Kennedy’s wisdom: the reasons for entry and the reasons for staying are fundamentally different and not even close. Understanding and leveraging this distinction is crucial for long-term business success and customer retention.


In summary, Brunson emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing the different factors that attract and retain customers. By focusing on building a strong community and fostering relationships, businesses can ensure long-term loyalty and success.


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]]> 764 no Inner Circle For Life https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/inner-circle-for-life What I'm doing day #1 to help launch or relaunch each of their businesses. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I have just finished day number three of the Category King's Mastermind, and now I'm driving to day number one of the Inner Circle. And I just want to drop some thoughts on you of what's been happening the last couple days, my insights about some of the stuff I'll be sharing today, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. We'll be right back. All right. So, the last three days have been insane. I think I told you guys in the last episode, we launched a new Mastermind level called the Category Kings. It's $150,000 to join, and we got 15 people to sign up in a day and a half or something, which surprised me, but it was amazing. In fact, okay, hold on for all you guys, it's been really interesting, three or four people who are in that group right now, right, "First thing Russell told us when we joined the mastermind group was to email our lists and sell a mastermind group" and one person's like "I did it and sold 20 people and made my money back the first night at Inner Circle, the very first time." And then somebody else like, "Same thing, same thing," like three or four people. So, there's one piece of advice. If you're like, "I need to make more money," and you've gotten a list, send them an email and back, Yo, I'm launching a mastermind you want in?" And I think for most of you guys, you'll be surprised what happens. So, anyway, throwing that out there is a quick win that I think all of you guys could do. It's actually really interesting. Today I'm going to be talking to the group about improvement offers versus new opportunities. If you've read the Expert Secrets book, I geeked out on there for five chapters about it, but new opportunities are what you want to sell because it attracts people who have desire and t's really good. You don't want to sell improvement offers, typically, because improvement offers only attract people who have ambition, right? People who want to improve and the people who, the bucket of people who want to improve is very, very small. Now for you guys who are entrepreneurs, who are listening to this podcast, interesting enough, you're probably one of the few people who, the small percentage of the world who actually does want to improve. And in everyone's list, there's, the majority is people who have desires and there's a small group of people who want improvement. And typically those are the people at the very, very, very, very, very, very back of your value ladder, right? It's your highest ticket people. It's the people who have ambition, right? Those are the people and they're few and far between, but they're there. And so, what's interesting, if you look at, we announced this to our list and most people were probably like, "$150,000 for a meeting? No!" But the ambitious people were like, "Yes, I want to improve." Boom. And they didn't think about it. It wasn't a hard sell. It was an easy thing. And my guess is that, on most people's lists, there's a small certain people who are looking for improvement and a high end mastermind or thing like that, is what fulfills an improvement offer, right? It's, they're going to become better smarter. Anytime you have an ER, it's an improvement offer, which is horrible for a friend and offer, but it works for high ticket. So anyway, another thing to think out there. Anyway. So I was going to talk about today, which is really fun. So I'm in a really interesting phase of the business right now where, as you guys know, we're about to launch ClickFunnels 2.0, we just bought Magnetic Marketing. So we're about to relaunch Dan Kennedy's company. We also bought Brad Callen's company, which was called Bryxen. We've renamed it Voomly because that's the core kind of product and the product line. And it's interesting because, I'm in this phase right now, where I am either launching or relaunching my core business and two other businesses. And so this mastermind has been fun for me because I'm rethinking through everything, rethinking through the problem we solve, rethinking through what our new opportunity is. Our new opportunity, by the way, has shifted over the years. And it's like, what's the new opportunity today? And then what is the… and that’s in ClickFunnels, but what's the new opportunity in Magnetic Marketing? What's new opportunity in Voomly? So as I'm teaching the stuff, it's fun for me because I'm literally in the middle of redoing these things for all the businesses I have. And so it's given me this really unique, fun experience where I'm teaching the process I'm going through in my head. And so today, for the mastermind, I have my list of 13 things that I'm currently doing and thinking through and trying to figure out for these businesses, that I'm sharing with them, as I'm going down the same rabbit hole that, they are right, because they're coming to me. To be in this group you have to have at least one or two call my club, and so they've all got a good business, but it's like, okay, I've got this business. How do I scale it? Well, usually scaling is about reinvention, right? What got you here is not going to get you you there. And it's true. The skill sets, the ideas, the thoughts that get you from zero to a million dollars are one thing. But the thoughts from a million to 10 and 10 to a 100 and a 100 to a billion are different. And so I'm going to be sharing some of my thoughts, as I'm trying to go from, whatever, 200 something a year to a billion and how do we do it? What are we thinking through? And it's ah, anyways, interesting and it's fascinating and exciting. And so, I want you guys who are listening today to look at it through this lens, right? Pretend you're consulting yourself. I thought that as I was preparing my presentation today. I was like, okay, if I was consulting myself, I've got these group people, I'm consulting them, but I'm them, right? I'm them, just maybe in a different step or different part of the journey, but how would I consult myself? What would I do? What would I say? And I started going through these things. And especially if you've read my books before, you have the playbooks of what I do and what I teach, it doesn't shift, right? It's like, "Oh there's this idea I forgot about. There's a new secret book. The fourth secret, you know, like the foundation and the foundation, the fundamentals are the same, the principles are the same, but for us it's re-going back and re-looking at them and not forgetting them. In fact, it was interesting. I was telling the story yesterday to the Category Kings that Funnel Hacking Live Orlando. So that's 2018, I believe, was the first time we launched the Two Comma Club X coaching program and it killed it. First time I ever had an eight figure day and it was insane. Right? The next year we launched Funnel Hacking Live again. Boom, same thing, eight figure day. And I was like, this is amazing! And then I did, what all smart entrepreneurs do, is the next year, I was like, "Hey, we have something that's perfect that's worked flawlessly two years in a row. Let's change everything." And so I literally changed the name of the program, the fulfillment, like how we delivered, like all the things because I thought, I had a better way to do it. There was this ER there, which means I unknowingly, unconsciously shifted it from a new opportunity to an improvement offer. And last year's Funnel Hacking Live 2020, the offer bombed we we sold like, I mean, it was good compared to what most people would think. It wasn't like we blinked, but you know, from going from two years in a row, where we do over eight figures in a day to the next year, only doing a couple a million and you've tied your cost to the event, all the stuff into this, it was a big bomb. It was a big failure for us. And while I was on stage doing the presentation, I could feel, I was like, oh no, this is an improvement offer. I forgot my own core foundational teachings, Expert Secrets 101. Ah, I've messed it up and I forgot it. even though I know this stuff, I teach this stuff, I've written about it. So it's coming back the fundamentals like, Russell! And so we, this last year, restructured it and went back to what worked before, put it back into new opportunity, launched it and boom, eight figure day. And so just, yeah, these are the things to think through, is how would you consult yourself? What would you step back? What would you do? And so I'm excited to deliver this presentation today, but hopefully gives you guys who aren't here just some ideas and some things to start looking through and how to consult yourself. Like Hormozi, a lot of you guys know Alex who joined the inner circle with the goal of making 20 grand a month and then ended up doing over a hundred million dollars in three years, which is amazing. One thing he told me, he's like, "Most people read a lot of books". He's like, "I read one book a lot of times." And for him, he said it was Expert Secrets. He read it and when it got to the end, he flipped it over, started over and read it again. When he got the end, he flipped over and started again. And it's the fundamentals, right? It's Vince Lombardi coming to his football team that are the best in the world. And first day of practice is starting saying, "Gentlemen, this is the football." And that's where these things begin. So anyway, I am almost to the event. In fact, I see a bunch of Inner Circle people walking. I'm going to wave out the window at them, "What's up guys?" Anyway, the Inner Circle who walked by, they just freaked out. Ah, so exciting! All right. I got to go because I'm about to park and get over to the meeting. I appreciate you guys. Hope you're doing well. And someday I hope you can be in the Inner Circle with me so we can hang out and talk about these things together. Until, then keep listening to the podcasts but keep dropping bread crumbs and ideas and thoughts and hints and things to help get you further along on your journey. Thanks so much for listening. We'll talk to you soon, bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 01 Nov 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Inner Circle For Life full 462 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What I'm doing day #1 to help launch or relaunch each of their businesses. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing... What I'm doing day #1 to help launch or relaunch each of their businesses. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I have just finished day number three of the Category King's Mastermind, and now I'm driving to day number one of the Inner Circle. And I just want to drop some thoughts on you of what's been happening the last couple days, my insights about some of the stuff I'll be sharing today, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. We'll be right back. All right. So, the last three days have been insane. I think I told you guys in the last episode, we launched a new Mastermind level called the Category Kings. It's $150,000 to join, and we got 15 people to sign up in a day and a half or something, which surprised me, but it was amazing. In fact, okay, hold on for all you guys, it's been really interesting, three or four people who are in that group right now, right, "First thing Russell told us when we joined the mastermind group was to email our lists and sell a mastermind group" and one person's like "I did it and sold 20 people and made my money back the first night at Inner Circle, the very first time." And then somebody else like, "Same thing, same thing," like three or four people. So, there's one piece of advice. If you're like, "I need to make more money," and you've gotten a list, send them an email and back, Yo, I'm launching a mastermind you want in?" And I think for most of you guys, you'll be surprised what happens. So, anyway, throwing that out there is a quick win that I think all of you guys could do. It's actually really interesting. Today I'm going to be talking to the group about improvement offers versus new opportunities. If you've read the Expert Secrets book, I geeked out on there for five chapters about it, but new opportunities are what you want to sell because it attracts people who have desire and t's really good. You don't want to sell improvement offers, typically, because improvement offers only attract people who have ambition, right? People who want to improve and the people who, the bucket of people who want to improve is very, very small. Now for you guys who are entrepreneurs, who are listening to this podcast, interesting enough, you're probably one of the few people who, the small percentage of the world who actually does want to improve. And in everyone's list, there's, the majority is people who have desires and there's a small group of people who want improvement. And typically those are the people at the very, very, very, very, very, very back of your value ladder, right? It's your highest ticket people. It's the people who have ambition, right? Those are the people and they're few and far between, but they're there. And so, what's interesting, if you look at, we announced this to our list and most people were probably like, "$150,000 for a meeting? No!" But the ambitious people were like, "Yes, I want to improve." Boom. And they didn't think about it. It wasn't a hard sell. It was an easy thing. And my guess is that, on most people's lists, there's a small certain people who are looking for improvement and a high end mastermind or thing like that, is what fulfills an improvement offer, right? It's, they're going to become better smarter. Anytime you have an ER, it's an improvement offer, which is horrible for a friend and offer, but it works for high ticket. So anyway, another thing to think out there. Anyway. So I was going to talk about today, which is really fun. So I'm in a really interesting phase of the business right now where, as you guys know, we're about to launch ClickFunnels 2.0, we just bought Magnetic Marketing. So we're about to relaunch Dan Kennedy's company. We also bought Brad Callen's company, which was called Bryxen. We've renamed it Voomly because that's the core kind of product and the product line. And it's interesting because, I'm in this phase right now, where I am either launching or relaunching my core business and two other businesses. And so this mastermind has been fun for me because I'm rethinking through everything, rethinking through the problem we solve, rethinking through what our new opportunity is. Our new opportunity, by the way, has shifted over the years. And it's like, what's the new opportunity today? And then what is the… and that’s in ClickFunnels, but what's the new opportunity in Magnetic Marketing? What's new opportunity in Voomly? So as I'm teaching the stuff, it's fun for me because I'm literally in the middle of redoing these things for all the businesses I have. And so it's given me this really unique, fun experience where I'm teaching the process I'm going through in my head. And so today, for the mastermind, I have my list of 13 things that I'm currently doing and thinking through and trying to figure out for these businesses, that I'm sharing with them, as I'm going down the same rabbit hole that, they are right, because they're coming to me. To be in this group you have to have at least one or two call my club, and so they've all got a good business, but it's like, okay, I've got this business. How do I scale it? Well, usually scaling is about reinvention, right? What got you here is not going to get you you there. And it's true. The skill sets, the ideas, the thoughts that get you from zero to a million dollars are one thing. But the thoughts from a million to 10 and 10 to a 100 and a 100 to a billion are different. And so I'm going to be sharing some of my thoughts, as I'm trying to go from, whatever, 200 something a year to a billion and how do we do it? What are we thinking through? And it's ah, anyways, interesting and it's fascinating and exciting. And so, I want you guys who are listening today to look at it through this lens, right? Pretend you're consulting yourself. I thought that as I was preparing my presentation today. I was like, okay, if I was consulting myself, I've got these group people, I'm consulting them, but I'm them, right? I'm them, just maybe in a different step or different part of the journey, but how would I consult myself? What would I do? What would I say? And I started going through these things. And especially if you've read my books before, you have the playbooks of what I do and what I teach, it doesn't shift, right? It's like, "Oh there's this idea I forgot about. There's a new secret book. The fourth secret, you know, like the foundation and the foundation, the fundamentals are the same, the principles are the same, but for us it's re-going back and re-looking at them and not forgetting them. In fact, it was interesting. I was telling the story yesterday to the Category Kings that Funnel Hacking Live Orlando. So that's 2018, I believe, was the first time we launched the Two Comma Club X coaching program and it killed it. First time I ever had an eight figure day and it was insane. Right? The next year we launched Funnel Hacking Live again. Boom, same thing, eight figure day. And I was like, this is amazing! And then I did, what all smart entrepreneurs do, is the next year, I was like, "Hey, we have something that's perfect that's worked flawlessly two years in a row. Let's change everything." And so I literally changed the name of the program, the fulfillment, like how we delivered, like all the things because I thought, I had a better way to do it. There was this ER there, which means I unknowingly, unconsciously shifted it from a new opportunity to an improvement offer. And last year's Funnel Hacking Live 2020, the offer bombed we we sold like, I mean, it was good compared to what most people would think. It wasn't like we blinked, but you know, from going from two years in a row, where we do over eight figures in a day to the next year, only doing a couple a million and you've tied your cost to the event, all the stuff into this, it was a big bomb. It was a big failure for us. And while I was on stage doing the presentation, I could feel, I was like, oh no, this is an improvement offer. I forgot my own core foundational teachings, Expert Secrets 101. Ah, I've messed it up and I forgot it. even though I know this stuff, I teach this stuff, I've written about it. So it's coming back the fundamentals like, Russell! And so we, this last year, restructured it and went back to what worked before, put it back into new opportunity, launched it and boom, eight figure day. And so just, yeah, these are the things to think through, is how would you consult yourself? What would you step back? What would you do? And so I'm excited to deliver this presentation today, but hopefully gives you guys who aren't here just some ideas and some things to start looking through and how to consult yourself. Like Hormozi, a lot of you guys know Alex who joined the inner circle with the goal of making 20 grand a month and then ended up doing over a hundred million dollars in three years, which is amazing. One thing he told me, he's like, "Most people read a lot of books". He's like, "I read one book a lot of times." And for him, he said it was Expert Secrets. He read it and when it got to the end, he flipped it over, started over and read it again. When he got the end, he flipped over and started again. And it's the fundamentals, right? It's Vince Lombardi coming to his football team that are the best in the world. And first day of practice is starting saying, "Gentlemen, this is the football." And that's where these things begin. So anyway, I am almost to the event. In fact, I see a bunch of Inner Circle people walking. I'm going to wave out the window at them, "What's up guys?" Anyway, the Inner Circle who walked by, they just freaked out. Ah, so exciting! All right. I got to go because I'm about to park and get over to the meeting. I appreciate you guys. Hope you're doing well. And someday I hope you can be in the Inner Circle with me so we can hang out and talk about these things together. Until, then keep listening to the podcasts but keep dropping bread crumbs and ideas and thoughts and hints and things to help get you further along on your journey. Thanks so much for listening. We'll talk to you soon, bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What I'm doing day #1 to help launch or relaunch each of their businesses.

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---Transcript---

What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I have just finished day number three of the Category King's Mastermind, and now I'm driving to day number one of the Inner Circle. And I just want to drop some thoughts on you of what's been happening the last couple days, my insights about some of the stuff I'll be sharing today, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. We'll be right back.

All right. So, the last three days have been insane. I think I told you guys in the last episode, we launched a new Mastermind level called the Category Kings. It's $150,000 to join, and we got 15 people to sign up in a day and a half or something, which surprised me, but it was amazing. In fact, okay, hold on for all you guys, it's been really interesting, three or four people who are in that group right now, right, "First thing Russell told us when we joined the mastermind group was to email our lists and sell a mastermind group" and one person's like "I did it and sold 20 people and made my money back the first night at Inner Circle, the very first time." And then somebody else like, "Same thing, same thing," like three or four people.

So, there's one piece of advice. If you're like, "I need to make more money," and you've gotten a list, send them an email and back, Yo, I'm launching a mastermind you want in?" And I think for most of you guys, you'll be surprised what happens.

So, anyway, throwing that out there is a quick win that I think all of you guys could do. It's actually really interesting. Today I'm going to be talking to the group about improvement offers versus new opportunities. If you've read the Expert Secrets book, I geeked out on there for five chapters about it, but new opportunities are what you want to sell because it attracts people who have desire and t's really good.

You don't want to sell improvement offers, typically, because improvement offers only attract people who have ambition, right? People who want to improve and the people who, the bucket of people who want to improve is very, very small.

Now for you guys who are entrepreneurs, who are listening to this podcast, interesting enough, you're probably one of the few people who, the small percentage of the world who actually does want to improve. And in everyone's list, there's, the majority is people who have desires and there's a small group of people who want improvement. And typically those are the people at the very, very, very, very, very, very back of your value ladder, right? It's your highest ticket people. It's the people who have ambition, right?

Those are the people and they're few and far between, but they're there. And so, what's interesting, if you look at, we announced this to our list and most people were probably like, "$150,000 for a meeting? No!" But the ambitious people were like, "Yes, I want to improve." Boom. And they didn't think about it. It wasn't a hard sell. It was an easy thing.

And my guess is that, on most people's lists, there's a small certain people who are looking for improvement and a high end mastermind or thing like that, is what fulfills an improvement offer, right?

It's, they're going to become better smarter. Anytime you have an ER, it's an improvement offer, which is horrible for a friend and offer, but it works for high ticket. So anyway, another thing to think out there.

Anyway. So I was going to talk about today, which is really fun. So I'm in a really interesting phase of the business right now where, as you guys know, we're about to launch ClickFunnels 2.0, we just bought Magnetic Marketing.

So we're about to relaunch Dan Kennedy's company. We also bought Brad Callen's company, which was called Bryxen. We've renamed it Voomly because that's the core kind of product and the product line.

And it's interesting because, I'm in this phase right now, where I am either launching or relaunching my core business and two other businesses. And so this mastermind has been fun for me because I'm rethinking through everything, rethinking through the problem we solve, rethinking through what our new opportunity is. Our new opportunity, by the way, has shifted over the years. And it's like, what's the new opportunity today? And then what is the… and that’s in ClickFunnels, but what's the new opportunity in Magnetic Marketing? What's new opportunity in Voomly? So as I'm teaching the stuff, it's fun for me because I'm literally in the middle of redoing these things for all the businesses I have.

And so it's given me this really unique, fun experience where I'm teaching the process I'm going through in my head. And so today, for the mastermind, I have my list of 13 things that I'm currently doing and thinking through and trying to figure out for these businesses, that I'm sharing with them, as I'm going down the same rabbit hole that, they are right, because they're coming to me.

To be in this group you have to have at least one or two call my club, and so they've all got a good business, but it's like, okay, I've got this business. How do I scale it? Well, usually scaling is about reinvention, right? What got you here is not going to get you you there. And it's true. The skill sets, the ideas, the thoughts that get you from zero to a million dollars are one thing.

But the thoughts from a million to 10 and 10 to a 100 and a 100 to a billion are different. And so I'm going to be sharing some of my thoughts, as I'm trying to go from, whatever, 200 something a year to a billion and how do we do it? What are we thinking through?

And it's ah, anyways, interesting and it's fascinating and exciting. And so, I want you guys who are listening today to look at it through this lens, right?

Pretend you're consulting yourself. I thought that as I was preparing my presentation today. I was like, okay, if I was consulting myself, I've got these group people, I'm consulting them, but I'm them, right? I'm them, just maybe in a different step or different part of the journey, but how would I consult myself? What would I do? What would I say?

And I started going through these things. And especially if you've read my books before, you have the playbooks of what I do and what I teach, it doesn't shift, right? It's like, "Oh there's this idea I forgot about. There's a new secret book. The fourth secret, you know, like the foundation and the foundation, the fundamentals are the same, the principles are the same, but for us it's re-going back and re-looking at them and not forgetting them.

In fact, it was interesting. I was telling the story yesterday to the Category Kings that Funnel Hacking Live Orlando. So that's 2018, I believe, was the first time we launched the Two Comma Club X coaching program and it killed it. First time I ever had an eight figure day and it was insane. Right? The next year we launched Funnel Hacking Live again. Boom, same thing, eight figure day.

And I was like, this is amazing! And then I did, what all smart entrepreneurs do, is the next year, I was like, "Hey, we have something that's perfect that's worked flawlessly two years in a row. Let's change everything." And so I literally changed the name of the program, the fulfillment, like how we delivered, like all the things because I thought, I had a better way to do it.

There was this ER there, which means I unknowingly, unconsciously shifted it from a new opportunity to an improvement offer. And last year's Funnel Hacking Live 2020, the offer bombed we we sold like, I mean, it was good compared to what most people would think.

It wasn't like we blinked, but you know, from going from two years in a row, where we do over eight figures in a day to the next year, only doing a couple a million and you've tied your cost to the event, all the stuff into this, it was a big bomb. It was a big failure for us. And while I was on stage doing the presentation, I could feel, I was like, oh no, this is an improvement offer.

I forgot my own core foundational teachings, Expert Secrets 101. Ah, I've messed it up and I forgot it. even though I know this stuff, I teach this stuff, I've written about it. So it's coming back the fundamentals like, Russell!

And so we, this last year, restructured it and went back to what worked before, put it back into new opportunity, launched it and boom, eight figure day.

And so just, yeah, these are the things to think through, is how would you consult yourself? What would you step back? What would you do? And so I'm excited to deliver this presentation today, but hopefully gives you guys who aren't here just some ideas and some things to start looking through and how to consult yourself.

Like Hormozi, a lot of you guys know Alex who joined the inner circle with the goal of making 20 grand a month and then ended up doing over a hundred million dollars in three years, which is amazing. One thing he told me, he's like, "Most people read a lot of books". He's like, "I read one book a lot of times."

And for him, he said it was Expert Secrets. He read it and when it got to the end, he flipped it over, started over and read it again. When he got the end, he flipped over and started again. And it's the fundamentals, right?

It's Vince Lombardi coming to his football team that are the best in the world. And first day of practice is starting saying, "Gentlemen, this is the football." And that's where these things begin.

So anyway, I am almost to the event. In fact, I see a bunch of Inner Circle people walking. I'm going to wave out the window at them, "What's up guys?" Anyway, the Inner Circle who walked by, they just freaked out.

Ah, so exciting! All right. I got to go because I'm about to park and get over to the meeting. I appreciate you guys. Hope you're doing well. And someday I hope you can be in the Inner Circle with me so we can hang out and talk about these things together.

Until, then keep listening to the podcasts but keep dropping bread crumbs and ideas and thoughts and hints and things to help get you further along on your journey. Thanks so much for listening. We'll talk to you soon, bye everybody.

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]]> 627 no The Greatest 'Funnel' Opportunity That Everyone Missed (Including Me) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-greatest-funnel-opportunity-that-everyone-missed-including-me Inside This Episode... We're talking about an exciting internet marketing opportunity that's been hiding right under our noses, and we didn't even realize it. Experts Mike Schmidt and AJ Rivera join the conversation to share the 'loophole' they accidentally found that nobody knows about yet... and how you can turn this specific 'funnel' into a thriving BUSINESS. Listen Out For: Why people are losing upwards of 96% of their (and how to PLUG that hole in your business) ​The BIG difference between a Website and a FunnelHub ​How you can quickly grow a service-based business or agency building FunnelHubs for other businesses Like This Episode? You can learn more about building a FunnelHub for your own business, or starting an agency that builds FunnelHubs for others through Mike & AJ's training program called FunnelHub Launchpad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sun, 31 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Greatest 'Funnel' Opportunity That Everyone Missed (Including Me) bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Inside This Episode... We're talking about an exciting internet marketing opportunity that's been hiding right under our noses, and we didn't even realize it. Experts Mike Schmidt and AJ Rivera join the conversation to share the 'loophole' they... Inside This Episode... We're talking about an exciting internet marketing opportunity that's been hiding right under our noses, and we didn't even realize it. Experts Mike Schmidt and AJ Rivera join the conversation to share the 'loophole' they accidentally found that nobody knows about yet... and how you can turn this specific 'funnel' into a thriving BUSINESS. Listen Out For: Why people are losing upwards of 96% of their (and how to PLUG that hole in your business) ​The BIG difference between a Website and a FunnelHub ​How you can quickly grow a service-based business or agency building FunnelHubs for other businesses Like This Episode? You can learn more about building a FunnelHub for your own business, or starting an agency that builds FunnelHubs for others through Mike & AJ's training program called FunnelHub Launchpad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Inside This Episode...

We're talking about an exciting internet marketing opportunity that's been hiding right under our noses, and we didn't even realize it. Experts Mike Schmidt and AJ Rivera join the conversation to share the 'loophole' they accidentally found that nobody knows about yet... and how you can turn this specific 'funnel' into a thriving BUSINESS.

Listen Out For:

  • Why people are losing upwards of 96% of their (and how to PLUG that hole in your business)
  • ​The BIG difference between a Website and a FunnelHub
  • ​How you can quickly grow a service-based business or agency building FunnelHubs for other businesses

Like This Episode?

You can learn more about building a FunnelHub for your own business, or starting an agency that builds FunnelHubs for others through Mike & AJ's training program called FunnelHub Launchpad.

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]]> 6687 no A Sneak Peek from Within the Category King's Mastermind https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-sneak-peek-from-within-the-category-kings-mastermind One of my biggest "ah-ha's" and "takeaways" from day 1 of our highest level mastermind. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers podcast. I'm in a good mood today. I'm in a really good mood today. I hope you are as well. We relaunched my Inner Circle. We opened a new level called the Category Kings. We had a chance to meet with him yesterday, and actually I'm driving to downtown Boise, because I'm going to be hanging out with that group again for the next two days and then my Inner Circle for the next two days after that. And so this is like a week of hanging out with my favorite people in the world, and so I'm excited. I've got some long car rides back and forth this week, so you'll probably get some episodes of me talking about what we're talking about, what's happening. And I'm doing this for a couple reasons, number one is I want you to learn from some lessons and the key takeaways that I'm getting from these events. And number two, hopefully it will inspire you to want to set as a goal someday to be in my Inner Circle, and eventually to send up with the Category Kings and things like that. So there you go with that said I'm going to cue the theme song, when we come back I'm going to share with you guys some of the cool aha I had from our meeting yesterday. All right everybody. So yeah I'm driving downtown Boise here, about to go hang out with my Category Kings, which is a small group mastermind I have with some of the Category Kings here inside of the Click Funnels universe, which is fun. When I decided, as some of you guys know I've run my Inner Circle mastermind program for seven or eight years, and then two years ago, about six months before the COVID lockdowns I decided I needed a break. And so I paused Inner Circle. I shut it down, whatever you want to call it, and decided to take a two year hiatus, actually I didn't know how long it was going to be at the time. So decided to take a hiatus and maybe it was going to be forever. But over the last two years, I missed it. For me there're different ways to learn, like you can learn from a book, you can learn from a course, you can learn from a seminar, and for me I've done all those things. I'm a voracious reader. I go through everybody's courses. I love going to seminars, but eventually for me it gets harder and harder to like mine the gold out right? Because you just are more aware of things. And I've been doing this game now for almost 20 years. And so I've been to more seminars than most of you guys probably even knew existed in our industry. So for me it gets harder and harder to find like that gold nugget. And I was in, I remember my very first mastermind group I ever joined was Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazier’s, which some you guys heard we recently acquired their company, which is such a cool thing. But in those groups it was interesting because it wasn't like I was learning, it wasn't like here's course curriculum. It was like the mastermind group, we get together, we all get share and talk, and ideas. And like that's where I started getting these nuggets of things that were just like, oh wow, I can apply that. Oh I can apply that. It was a different type of learning I never experienced before, but I fell in love with it. And I was in Bill's mastermind group for six years. And then when he retired and sold his company I wanted to go see if I could find another mastermind group to join. And I ended up joining all of them. Like all the ones I could find in my world in similar markets, I would join them all. And I never got the same experience. I didn't know why. And that was about the time I decided to launch my Inner Circle. And I think the reason why most of the masterminds I tried to join was like you join them, and there were a whole bunch of internet marketers in the group. And so everyone, I don't know, it was just, it never felt awesome. But what was cool about the Inner Circle I launched it, because we have ClickFunnels we didn't just have internet marketers who are using the platform, we had people in every market you can dream of. We have 100 and something 1000 active members now. And again, there's people that are chiropractors, dentists, doctors, people in curing cancer, wellness, health filled, people in marriage, family, counseling, relationships, dating, every market you can dream of are using ClickFunnels. And so when we opened the Inner Circle, it was crazy, because it wasn't just like, oh a whole bunch of internet marketers joined to talk about internet marketing stuff. It was like the best people in each industry joined it. And it was so cool, because now in this mastermind I was learning like what's working now in the relationship market? What's working over here in the supplement market? What's working here, because we had such a such wide variety of people. And man for me it lit up. And if you've read, specifically the Expert Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book was written in the middle of when the Inner Circle was at its peak. When people like Brandon and Calum Poland and Alex Hormozi and I could list all, the most of the names you guys know in the ClickFunnels community today were in the Inner Circle during that time. And it was fun, because I was writing that book, I would like test ideas and then I would test it on my business, have some success, I'd share it with the entire Inner Circle and within hours it was being tested in 40 different industries. And we got feedback and course correction, and tweaks back and forth and back and forth. And really the Expert Secrets book was born from that testing process inside the Inner Circle. It was so cool. Anyway, I digress. So for me after two years of having it closed down I reopened it, specifically because I missed learning. Like I've been in a weird spot where we've been growing, we've been acquiring companies, we're doing things, but I don't feel like I've been personally growing and you know growth is a big value for me. That's why I have so many books that I study so much, is I'm looking for ways to grow all the time. And so I reopened it with the excitement to start regrowing again with a small group of really cool people. So the Category Kings have 15 people in it. Each of them spend $150,000 a year to be part of it. And then the Inner Circle is $50,000 a year, and there's a 100 people in that one. And so those are the two groups, the Category Kings one was funny, I thought that was going to, I was like there's no way people are going to spend that much money. That one sold out in two days and Inner Circle, man we ended up from Funnel Hacking Live, we only presented it to people at Two Comma Club. We had a special luncheon. And from that I think we had 60 or 70 people join during the luncheon. And so anyway, so there's some context to what it is, why it is, why it's exciting, why I'm so passionate about it. So with the Category Kings, to kick off kind of this new group some of you guys have read the book Play Bigger, which teaches you how to become a category king. And I thought, how cool, and it's funny, because half of our, the Category King group are actually women. So as of yesterday I'm calling it the Category King and Queens, because there's as many Queens in the group as there are Kings. But anyway I digress, I thought it'd be really cool to have one of the authors of that book come and actually present. And so Dave Peterson came and he presented on how to like design your category. And it was interesting, because I've read the book multiple times, I've referred it to, I think he told me I was probably the top refer of his book, because I told everybody about it. And so it was interesting, because as we were preparing for this I had it in my head what he was going to do. He was going to use the principles in the book. We're going to map it out. We're going to category design. Like I thought, I really thought that was the direction we were going to go. It was interesting, because he told me, he's like, you know everything I've learned about category design for the most part happened after I wrote the book, we wrote the book based on these principles and he's like, we've been coaching for the last decade now. And he's actually now doing it in a company again. And he's like you know most of what I’ve learned about category design, I have learned since the book. And so there's a lot of things that are different. And so anyway, we had a four hour workshop with him and what was fascinating to me was we didn't cover most of the things in the book. In fact the first hour was all spent on something that seemed so simple. I'm almost nervous to tell you guys this, because you'd be like, oh that's so simple Russell. But me and 15 other people in this room of arguably Category Kings in their industries, none of us were able to really answer it. And that's what I want to share with you guys today. So the question and it's interesting, because like the way that I, the lens that I view the world at typically for me is like, okay I'm going to go find, who's my dream customer? And then I'm going to create an offer for them. That's like for me, like ground zero, that's where I begin this process. And then if you've read Extra Secrets, you know it's like, hey do we make an improvement offer? Or a new opportunity? Create a new opportunity. There's this whole thing around like down that rabbit hole. And that's where I begin. That's where I kind of start running with. And I always knew that when we're creating offers and creating products, and services and things like that, where like our goal to solve a problem. But what was interesting is that Dave asked us, he's like, what is the problem that you solve? And he showed a bunch of the big companies you're aware of. Like the billion dollar brands and most of them have like a really simple, less than 10 word statement on the problem that they solve for the market. Like for example the wetsuit guy, I don't know who it was, but like his problem he's trying to solve is I want to swim in cold water longer, but that was it. I want to swim in cold water longer, eight words right. And like, what is a wetsuit? Oh it helps people swim in cold water longer. What was the problem you try to solve? Boom this is a solution and billion dollar brand. And every company had something like that. And then he was interesting, he said that he would go to, or he was talking about some of his friends that have big companies. And he said that he started doing this exercise with them, when he'd get in the car with them, and he'd be like, Hey how's it going? How's business? Real quickly, what do you think the problem is you guys as a company solve? His friend would tell him the answer and he'd write it down, and next time they hung out three or four days later he'd be talking, he's like, wait real quick, what was the question? What is the main problem you solve again? And the guy would be like, oh, he'd tell him again, and then he'd do it again, he'd do it five or six times over the next month and a half or so. And eventually the guy came back and said, you know the seventh or eighth time he asked him, he's like, dude you got to quit asking me this. Like you keep asking and I keep telling you the problem we solve. And then Dave came back and said, actually what's interesting is I've been writing them down. He's like every single time I've asked you that question, you've given me a different answer. And the guy was like, oh my gosh. And he started looking at him and he was disagreeing with himself, not knowing it. But if you look at like, he's like I solve this problem, I solve this problem. And I solve this problem. And they kept changing around. And he said a lot of times he'll do consulting with people and they're in category design, and he'll ask everybody in the executive team, what is the problem you solve? And everybody's answers different. And then he'll ask the employees and everyone's answers different. And he's like, this is the foundation. Business is all about solving a core problem for an industry. Like what is the core problem? And what's interesting he said that if you figure out the problem correctly, he said, the category will take care of itself. Like you don't have to go and figure out the category and design, all kind of stuff. He's like it all relies on this one thing, is what is the problem you solve? And it was interesting, because as he said that, instant I'm like oh sweet I can answer this. And then I was like, wait a minute. I could answer this seven years ago when ClickFunnels first came out. That was the problem we were solving seven years ago? It was that entrepreneurs couldn't code. And so we had to make this easy drag and drop builder, oh sorry this is the solution. The problem is that entrepreneurs aren't coders, that's the problem right? And so we built ClickFunnels, because someone like me who's an entrepreneur who needs funnels, I can't code. And so it was like this simple thing. And so that was the problem we solved. Now fast forward seven years later, that's not the market problem anymore. There's a million ways that entrepreneurs can code something. There's a million Wix's and WYSIWYG editors, and WordPress and Shopify, and Etsy and Amazon, like there's a million ways to do it. So, that's no longer the core problem. Although, that's the problem that we solved initially. And so it got me thinking, what is the problem we solve today? Like the problems change in a market and an industry over time. In fact, I asked someone, I was like, does the core problem stay the same forever? And he's like, no, no. He's like there's a core problem, and you got to figure out and identify that, because that'll define the category and everything else. But he's like markets shift, markets change. And he showed this graph of the CRM industry over the last 50 years or 60 years, initially he was it was business cards. And then it was some dude figured out you could take a business card and type it into a data processor. Now you had a digital business card, and then the next wave was like... Sorry, we can come back to the problem. So the first problem is like I needed contacts. So business cards became the thing. That was the problem. And then next thing I have all these business cards, I don't know how to manage them or track them. And so someone made a program where you could type it in. It's like, oh I have a digital version, I can look at it. And if my book of business cards burns up I don't lose my business. So problem solution, and then a little while later it's like, okay this is tough I hate typing in these things. And so the next wave of that industry was card scanners, where you take a business card, you scan it and boom it's in your computer now, you've got it there. And that solved the next set of problems in the industry. And then later it was I don't just want a business card. I want a business card, but to be able to take notes. And if I talk to somebody and things like that, and it was like the first version of CRM, and he showed, was it Seabolt and showed how they became the Category Kings and they dominated. But then eventually it was like well, first Seabolt was really hard to install and all these kind of things. And that's when Mark Benioff came out with Salesforce, which was not software, it was hard and confusing and you had to have people come install it and set up. It was just web based software. And he was the very first to do SAS based software. And so like that became the next thing. And he kept showing them the industry shifting, because the problem shifts over time. And it was interesting, because in your market if you're not shifting your problem over time, someone else is going to solve the problem and that's when you lose the category. That's when the person passes you, which is so fascinating. And so the question came down to, what is the problem you solve? And so that's the thing I want to identify for you guys. And the problem that us entrepreneurs have is like, oh we solve a ton of problems. We do this and this and this, and this and this, and this and this, this and that is the wrong answer. You don't solve a whole bunch of problems. You've got to solve one problem for the category. And by doing that, by creating that, by understanding and identifying and framing that problem from there the category is built. And then we got deeper and talked about POV statements and things like that, it got deeper from there. But that was the core foundation, that again, if I was teaching, I'd be like step one find a problem, step two, what is the offer? And then like you know, and I'd go directly into that, but it's like, no, no, we got to step back to the foundation, which is really what is the problem that you're solving for the industry? When you figure that out the category will take care of itself, which was so fascinating. And again, he said, try to keep your problem statement to under 10 words. And that's hard to do. I spent 45 minutes talking about, 15 minutes work shopping it, and then I spent the next four hours like noodling on it, like try to figure this out, like what in the world, especially as I know some of you guys know we're launching ClickFunnels 2.0 soon, so like with this whole new launch, this new thing, what is the problem we're trying to solve? How do I identify? How do I structure? How do I make it so simple that it keeps us as the Category King? So anyway I hope that's helpful. Obviously there was a lot of stuff yesterday that was really, really cool, but that was the one that was like the biggest insight. It was funny, because we came back from the first workshop, I raised my hand initially, I was like, all right I don't know if it's just me, but that was really, really hard. And I looked around at everybody else, every other Category King and Queen in the room looked back and said, oh, then Kevin's like, we're so grateful it was hard for you Russ, that was really, really hard for us and we thought we were the only ones. I'm like, no, I'm going to be vulnerable here too. That was really hard. And then it was fun, because it opened the dialogue with us all trying to figure it out and work with each other. And Annie Grace, a lot of you guys know her, she spoke at Funnel Hacking Live two years ago, she actually wrote out mine and my POV statement and all these things for me, it was like I think this is what yours is. And like, anyway it was magical. So anyway that was the first half day of Category Kings and Queens. And so I'm heading into the event room now, I'm getting close actually. And I'm excited because I was up till two o'clock last night working on my presentation, because I'm going to, based off of what we learned yesterday with the problem I'm going to take that as the foundation point and then show everybody over the last seven years how ClickFunnels has built to the place it is. We've got over half a billion dollars in sales, well over that now, we built the category, we’ve done these things. So I'm going to kind of show the next phases for me to the group. I'll probably spend two or three hours going deep into that, which I'm so excited for. And this is like Russell raw, like if you guys see me live, I'm Russell polished where I'm, I've got slides, I've got things. Russell raw you get me and a black marker and that's about it. So I'm excited for these guys they're going to, for those who haven't been with Russell raw this will be my first hardcore doodle session with them going through the principles of how we build ClickFunnels into the category king it is. Things I've learned along the way, the pros, the cons, the ups the downs, and yeah stuff I don't get to talk about typically. So, that's the cool thing about these groups, if you look at our coaching programs we have all the base level stuff. And then if you come in one funnel way and courses and all that kind of stuff, but when you decide to ascend up and get into coaching with us, the first is our Two Comma Club X coaching program. The goal of that is to get somebody from where they are today to Two Comma Club. After you get done with Two Comma Club and you've made a million dollars inside of a funnel, that's when you get invited into the Inner Circle and then from there into category Kings. But it's interesting because the reason why we break it up like that, we used to always have it all together and everyone would be dumped in one coaching program. And it was tough because, or one mastermind group, but it was tough, because there're different conversations that happen at different levels. Like the conversations I'm having with people that spend $150,000 to be in a group, they have to make a minimum of five million a year, and have had to sold over 10 million. They had to have won at Two Comma Club X award. The conversations they have in that room are different than the conversation that happen in a room with people who just passed the million dollar mark. And they're different than the conversation I've going to have with somebody who is in a startup mode trying to get into Two Comma Club. So it's just fun, because again these are things I don't get to talk about, or share ever. And so the place it gets to happen is here inside Category King. So for you guys who are looking to say, okay this is the path, I'm going to hit Two Comma Club X. And then from there Inner Circle, then Category Kings, just know we do record these things and there's a private members there. So when you get to Category King some day, come in here and watch Dave Peterson's talk on Category Kings and watch my presentations from the next day. And you'll have a chance to kind of see where I went from there. So with that said, thanks for listening. This is a long episode because I got a long ride. Hopefully you guys enjoyed it. I miss doing stuff like this, I'm going to try to... We have some fun updates to the podcast coming that I'm doing a few things more long form, I'm going to have someone come and interview me on some topics, because I think those make fun episodes and yeah it's going to be anyway... I'm going to be spending more time with you guys here, is my plan and my goal. So with that said, thanks so much for everything and we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000 A Sneak Peek from Within the Category King's Mastermind full 461 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of my biggest "ah-ha's" and "takeaways" from day 1 of our highest level mastermind. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to... One of my biggest "ah-ha's" and "takeaways" from day 1 of our highest level mastermind. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers podcast. I'm in a good mood today. I'm in a really good mood today. I hope you are as well. We relaunched my Inner Circle. We opened a new level called the Category Kings. We had a chance to meet with him yesterday, and actually I'm driving to downtown Boise, because I'm going to be hanging out with that group again for the next two days and then my Inner Circle for the next two days after that. And so this is like a week of hanging out with my favorite people in the world, and so I'm excited. I've got some long car rides back and forth this week, so you'll probably get some episodes of me talking about what we're talking about, what's happening. And I'm doing this for a couple reasons, number one is I want you to learn from some lessons and the key takeaways that I'm getting from these events. And number two, hopefully it will inspire you to want to set as a goal someday to be in my Inner Circle, and eventually to send up with the Category Kings and things like that. So there you go with that said I'm going to cue the theme song, when we come back I'm going to share with you guys some of the cool aha I had from our meeting yesterday. All right everybody. So yeah I'm driving downtown Boise here, about to go hang out with my Category Kings, which is a small group mastermind I have with some of the Category Kings here inside of the Click Funnels universe, which is fun. When I decided, as some of you guys know I've run my Inner Circle mastermind program for seven or eight years, and then two years ago, about six months before the COVID lockdowns I decided I needed a break. And so I paused Inner Circle. I shut it down, whatever you want to call it, and decided to take a two year hiatus, actually I didn't know how long it was going to be at the time. So decided to take a hiatus and maybe it was going to be forever. But over the last two years, I missed it. For me there're different ways to learn, like you can learn from a book, you can learn from a course, you can learn from a seminar, and for me I've done all those things. I'm a voracious reader. I go through everybody's courses. I love going to seminars, but eventually for me it gets harder and harder to like mine the gold out right? Because you just are more aware of things. And I've been doing this game now for almost 20 years. And so I've been to more seminars than most of you guys probably even knew existed in our industry. So for me it gets harder and harder to find like that gold nugget. And I was in, I remember my very first mastermind group I ever joined was Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazier’s, which some you guys heard we recently acquired their company, which is such a cool thing. But in those groups it was interesting because it wasn't like I was learning, it wasn't like here's course curriculum. It was like the mastermind group, we get together, we all get share and talk, and ideas. And like that's where I started getting these nuggets of things that were just like, oh wow, I can apply that. Oh I can apply that. It was a different type of learning I never experienced before, but I fell in love with it. And I was in Bill's mastermind group for six years. And then when he retired and sold his company I wanted to go see if I could find another mastermind group to join. And I ended up joining all of them. Like all the ones I could find in my world in similar markets, I would join them all. And I never got the same experience. I didn't know why. And that was about the time I decided to launch my Inner Circle. And I think the reason why most of the masterminds I tried to join was like you join them, and there were a whole bunch of internet marketers in the group. And so everyone, I don't know, it was just, it never felt awesome. But what was cool about the Inner Circle I launched it, because we have ClickFunnels we didn't just have internet marketers who are using the platform, we had people in every market you can dream of. We have 100 and something 1000 active members now. And again, there's people that are chiropractors, dentists, doctors, people in curing cancer, wellness, health filled, people in marriage, family, counseling, relationships, dating, every market you can dream of are using ClickFunnels. And so when we opened the Inner Circle, it was crazy, because it wasn't just like, oh a whole bunch of internet marketers joined to talk about internet marketing stuff. It was like the best people in each industry joined it. And it was so cool, because now in this mastermind I was learning like what's working now in the relationship market? What's working over here in the supplement market? What's working here, because we had such a such wide variety of people. And man for me it lit up. And if you've read, specifically the Expert Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book was written in the middle of when the Inner Circle was at its peak. When people like Brandon and Calum Poland and Alex Hormozi and I could list all, the most of the names you guys know in the ClickFunnels community today were in the Inner Circle during that time. And it was fun, because I was writing that book, I would like test ideas and then I would test it on my business, have some success, I'd share it with the entire Inner Circle and within hours it was being tested in 40 different industries. And we got feedback and course correction, and tweaks back and forth and back and forth. And really the Expert Secrets book was born from that testing process inside the Inner Circle. It was so cool. Anyway, I digress. So for me after two years of having it closed down I reopened it, specifically because I missed learning. Like I've been in a weird spot where we've been growing, we've been acquiring companies, we're doing things, but I don't feel like I've been personally growing and you know growth is a big value for me. That's why I have so many books that I study so much, is I'm looking for ways to grow all the time. And so I reopened it with the excitement to start regrowing again with a small group of really cool people. So the Category Kings have 15 people in it. Each of them spend $150,000 a year to be part of it. And then the Inner Circle is $50,000 a year, and there's a 100 people in that one. And so those are the two groups, the Category Kings one was funny, I thought that was going to, I was like there's no way people are going to spend that much money. That one sold out in two days and Inner Circle, man we ended up from Funnel Hacking Live, we only presented it to people at Two Comma Club. We had a special luncheon. And from that I think we had 60 or 70 people join during the luncheon. And so anyway, so there's some context to what it is, why it is, why it's exciting, why I'm so passionate about it. So with the Category Kings, to kick off kind of this new group some of you guys have read the book Play Bigger, which teaches you how to become a category king. And I thought, how cool, and it's funny, because half of our, the Category King group are actually women. So as of yesterday I'm calling it the Category King and Queens, because there's as many Queens in the group as there are Kings. But anyway I digress, I thought it'd be really cool to have one of the authors of that book come and actually present. And so Dave Peterson came and he presented on how to like design your category. And it was interesting, because I've read the book multiple times, I've referred it to, I think he told me I was probably the top refer of his book, because I told everybody about it. And so it was interesting, because as we were preparing for this I had it in my head what he was going to do. He was going to use the principles in the book. We're going to map it out. We're going to category design. Like I thought, I really thought that was the direction we were going to go. It was interesting, because he told me, he's like, you know everything I've learned about category design for the most part happened after I wrote the book, we wrote the book based on these principles and he's like, we've been coaching for the last decade now. And he's actually now doing it in a company again. And he's like you know most of what I’ve learned about category design, I have learned since the book. And so there's a lot of things that are different. And so anyway, we had a four hour workshop with him and what was fascinating to me was we didn't cover most of the things in the book. In fact the first hour was all spent on something that seemed so simple. I'm almost nervous to tell you guys this, because you'd be like, oh that's so simple Russell. But me and 15 other people in this room of arguably Category Kings in their industries, none of us were able to really answer it. And that's what I want to share with you guys today. So the question and it's interesting, because like the way that I, the lens that I view the world at typically for me is like, okay I'm going to go find, who's my dream customer? And then I'm going to create an offer for them. That's like for me, like ground zero, that's where I begin this process. And then if you've read Extra Secrets, you know it's like, hey do we make an improvement offer? Or a new opportunity? Create a new opportunity. There's this whole thing around like down that rabbit hole. And that's where I begin. That's where I kind of start running with. And I always knew that when we're creating offers and creating products, and services and things like that, where like our goal to solve a problem. But what was interesting is that Dave asked us, he's like, what is the problem that you solve? And he showed a bunch of the big companies you're aware of. Like the billion dollar brands and most of them have like a really simple, less than 10 word statement on the problem that they solve for the market. Like for example the wetsuit guy, I don't know who it was, but like his problem he's trying to solve is I want to swim in cold water longer, but that was it. I want to swim in cold water longer, eight words right. And like, what is a wetsuit? Oh it helps people swim in cold water longer. What was the problem you try to solve? Boom this is a solution and billion dollar brand. And every company had something like that. And then he was interesting, he said that he would go to, or he was talking about some of his friends that have big companies. And he said that he started doing this exercise with them, when he'd get in the car with them, and he'd be like, Hey how's it going? How's business? Real quickly, what do you think the problem is you guys as a company solve? His friend would tell him the answer and he'd write it down, and next time they hung out three or four days later he'd be talking, he's like, wait real quick, what was the question? What is the main problem you solve again? And the guy would be like, oh, he'd tell him again, and then he'd do it again, he'd do it five or six times over the next month and a half or so. And eventually the guy came back and said, you know the seventh or eighth time he asked him, he's like, dude you got to quit asking me this. Like you keep asking and I keep telling you the problem we solve. And then Dave came back and said, actually what's interesting is I've been writing them down. He's like every single time I've asked you that question, you've given me a different answer. And the guy was like, oh my gosh. And he started looking at him and he was disagreeing with himself, not knowing it. But if you look at like, he's like I solve this problem, I solve this problem. And I solve this problem. And they kept changing around. And he said a lot of times he'll do consulting with people and they're in category design, and he'll ask everybody in the executive team, what is the problem you solve? And everybody's answers different. And then he'll ask the employees and everyone's answers different. And he's like, this is the foundation. Business is all about solving a core problem for an industry. Like what is the core problem? And what's interesting he said that if you figure out the problem correctly, he said, the category will take care of itself. Like you don't have to go and figure out the category and design, all kind of stuff. He's like it all relies on this one thing, is what is the problem you solve? And it was interesting, because as he said that, instant I'm like oh sweet I can answer this. And then I was like, wait a minute. I could answer this seven years ago when ClickFunnels first came out. That was the problem we were solving seven years ago? It was that entrepreneurs couldn't code. And so we had to make this easy drag and drop builder, oh sorry this is the solution. The problem is that entrepreneurs aren't coders, that's the problem right? And so we built ClickFunnels, because someone like me who's an entrepreneur who needs funnels, I can't code. And so it was like this simple thing. And so that was the problem we solved. Now fast forward seven years later, that's not the market problem anymore. There's a million ways that entrepreneurs can code something. There's a million Wix's and WYSIWYG editors, and WordPress and Shopify, and Etsy and Amazon, like there's a million ways to do it. So, that's no longer the core problem. Although, that's the problem that we solved initially. And so it got me thinking, what is the problem we solve today? Like the problems change in a market and an industry over time. In fact, I asked someone, I was like, does the core problem stay the same forever? And he's like, no, no. He's like there's a core problem, and you got to figure out and identify that, because that'll define the category and everything else. But he's like markets shift, markets change. And he showed this graph of the CRM industry over the last 50 years or 60 years, initially he was it was business cards. And then it was some dude figured out you could take a business card and type it into a data processor. Now you had a digital business card, and then the next wave was like... Sorry, we can come back to the problem. So the first problem is like I needed contacts. So business cards became the thing. That was the problem. And then next thing I have all these business cards, I don't know how to manage them or track them. And so someone made a program where you could type it in. It's like, oh I have a digital version, I can look at it. And if my book of business cards burns up I don't lose my business. So problem solution, and then a little while later it's like, okay this is tough I hate typing in these things. And so the next wave of that industry was card scanners, where you take a business card, you scan it and boom it's in your computer now, you've got it there. And that solved the next set of problems in the industry. And then later it was I don't just want a business card. I want a business card, but to be able to take notes. And if I talk to somebody and things like that, and it was like the first version of CRM, and he showed, was it Seabolt and showed how they became the Category Kings and they dominated. But then eventually it was like well, first Seabolt was really hard to install and all these kind of things. And that's when Mark Benioff came out with Salesforce, which was not software, it was hard and confusing and you had to have people come install it and set up. It was just web based software. And he was the very first to do SAS based software. And so like that became the next thing. And he kept showing them the industry shifting, because the problem shifts over time. And it was interesting, because in your market if you're not shifting your problem over time, someone else is going to solve the problem and that's when you lose the category. That's when the person passes you, which is so fascinating. And so the question came down to, what is the problem you solve? And so that's the thing I want to identify for you guys. And the problem that us entrepreneurs have is like, oh we solve a ton of problems. We do this and this and this, and this and this, and this and this, this and that is the wrong answer. You don't solve a whole bunch of problems. You've got to solve one problem for the category. And by doing that, by creating that, by understanding and identifying and framing that problem from there the category is built. And then we got deeper and talked about POV statements and things like that, it got deeper from there. But that was the core foundation, that again, if I was teaching, I'd be like step one find a problem, step two, what is the offer? And then like you know, and I'd go directly into that, but it's like, no, no, we got to step back to the foundation, which is really what is the problem that you're solving for the industry? When you figure that out the category will take care of itself, which was so fascinating. And again, he said, try to keep your problem statement to under 10 words. And that's hard to do. I spent 45 minutes talking about, 15 minutes work shopping it, and then I spent the next four hours like noodling on it, like try to figure this out, like what in the world, especially as I know some of you guys know we're launching ClickFunnels 2.0 soon, so like with this whole new launch, this new thing, what is the problem we're trying to solve? How do I identify? How do I structure? How do I make it so simple that it keeps us as the Category King? So anyway I hope that's helpful. Obviously there was a lot of stuff yesterday that was really, really cool, but that was the one that was like the biggest insight. It was funny, because we came back from the first workshop, I raised my hand initially, I was like, all right I don't know if it's just me, but that was really, really hard. And I looked around at everybody else, every other Category King and Queen in the room looked back and said, oh, then Kevin's like, we're so grateful it was hard for you Russ, that was really, really hard for us and we thought we were the only ones. I'm like, no, I'm going to be vulnerable here too. That was really hard. And then it was fun, because it opened the dialogue with us all trying to figure it out and work with each other. And Annie Grace, a lot of you guys know her, she spoke at Funnel Hacking Live two years ago, she actually wrote out mine and my POV statement and all these things for me, it was like I think this is what yours is. And like, anyway it was magical. So anyway that was the first half day of Category Kings and Queens. And so I'm heading into the event room now, I'm getting close actually. And I'm excited because I was up till two o'clock last night working on my presentation, because I'm going to, based off of what we learned yesterday with the problem I'm going to take that as the foundation point and then show everybody over the last seven years how ClickFunnels has built to the place it is. We've got over half a billion dollars in sales, well over that now, we built the category, we’ve done these things. So I'm going to kind of show the next phases for me to the group. I'll probably spend two or three hours going deep into that, which I'm so excited for. And this is like Russell raw, like if you guys see me live, I'm Russell polished where I'm, I've got slides, I've got things. Russell raw you get me and a black marker and that's about it. So I'm excited for these guys they're going to, for those who haven't been with Russell raw this will be my first hardcore doodle session with them going through the principles of how we build ClickFunnels into the category king it is. Things I've learned along the way, the pros, the cons, the ups the downs, and yeah stuff I don't get to talk about typically. So, that's the cool thing about these groups, if you look at our coaching programs we have all the base level stuff. And then if you come in one funnel way and courses and all that kind of stuff, but when you decide to ascend up and get into coaching with us, the first is our Two Comma Club X coaching program. The goal of that is to get somebody from where they are today to Two Comma Club. After you get done with Two Comma Club and you've made a million dollars inside of a funnel, that's when you get invited into the Inner Circle and then from there into category Kings. But it's interesting because the reason why we break it up like that, we used to always have it all together and everyone would be dumped in one coaching program. And it was tough because, or one mastermind group, but it was tough, because there're different conversations that happen at different levels. Like the conversations I'm having with people that spend $150,000 to be in a group, they have to make a minimum of five million a year, and have had to sold over 10 million. They had to have won at Two Comma Club X award. The conversations they have in that room are different than the conversation that happen in a room with people who just passed the million dollar mark. And they're different than the conversation I've going to have with somebody who is in a startup mode trying to get into Two Comma Club. So it's just fun, because again these are things I don't get to talk about, or share ever. And so the place it gets to happen is here inside Category King. So for you guys who are looking to say, okay this is the path, I'm going to hit Two Comma Club X. And then from there Inner Circle, then Category Kings, just know we do record these things and there's a private members there. So when you get to Category King some day, come in here and watch Dave Peterson's talk on Category Kings and watch my presentations from the next day. And you'll have a chance to kind of see where I went from there. So with that said, thanks for listening. This is a long episode because I got a long ride. Hopefully you guys enjoyed it. I miss doing stuff like this, I'm going to try to... We have some fun updates to the podcast coming that I'm doing a few things more long form, I'm going to have someone come and interview me on some topics, because I think those make fun episodes and yeah it's going to be anyway... I'm going to be spending more time with you guys here, is my plan and my goal. 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What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers podcast. I'm in a good mood today. I'm in a really good mood today. I hope you are as well. We relaunched my Inner Circle. We opened a new level called the Category Kings. We had a chance to meet with him yesterday, and actually I'm driving to downtown Boise, because I'm going to be hanging out with that group again for the next two days and then my Inner Circle for the next two days after that. And so this is like a week of hanging out with my favorite people in the world, and so I'm excited. I've got some long car rides back and forth this week, so you'll probably get some episodes of me talking about what we're talking about, what's happening.

And I'm doing this for a couple reasons, number one is I want you to learn from some lessons and the key takeaways that I'm getting from these events. And number two, hopefully it will inspire you to want to set as a goal someday to be in my Inner Circle, and eventually to send up with the Category Kings and things like that. So there you go with that said I'm going to cue the theme song, when we come back I'm going to share with you guys some of the cool aha I had from our meeting yesterday.

All right everybody. So yeah I'm driving downtown Boise here, about to go hang out with my Category Kings, which is a small group mastermind I have with some of the Category Kings here inside of the Click Funnels universe, which is fun. When I decided, as some of you guys know I've run my Inner Circle mastermind program for seven or eight years, and then two years ago, about six months before the COVID lockdowns I decided I needed a break. And so I paused Inner Circle. I shut it down, whatever you want to call it, and decided to take a two year hiatus, actually I didn't know how long it was going to be at the time. So decided to take a hiatus and maybe it was going to be forever. But over the last two years, I missed it.

For me there're different ways to learn, like you can learn from a book, you can learn from a course, you can learn from a seminar, and for me I've done all those things. I'm a voracious reader. I go through everybody's courses. I love going to seminars, but eventually for me it gets harder and harder to like mine the gold out right? Because you just are more aware of things. And I've been doing this game now for almost 20 years. And so I've been to more seminars than most of you guys probably even knew existed in our industry.

So for me it gets harder and harder to find like that gold nugget. And I was in, I remember my very first mastermind group I ever joined was Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazier’s, which some you guys heard we recently acquired their company, which is such a cool thing. But in those groups it was interesting because it wasn't like I was learning, it wasn't like here's course curriculum. It was like the mastermind group, we get together, we all get share and talk, and ideas. And like that's where I started getting these nuggets of things that were just like, oh wow, I can apply that. Oh I can apply that. It was a different type of learning I never experienced before, but I fell in love with it.

And I was in Bill's mastermind group for six years. And then when he retired and sold his company I wanted to go see if I could find another mastermind group to join. And I ended up joining all of them. Like all the ones I could find in my world in similar markets, I would join them all. And I never got the same experience. I didn't know why. And that was about the time I decided to launch my Inner Circle. And I think the reason why most of the masterminds I tried to join was like you join them, and there were a whole bunch of internet marketers in the group. And so everyone, I don't know, it was just, it never felt awesome.

But what was cool about the Inner Circle I launched it, because we have ClickFunnels we didn't just have internet marketers who are using the platform, we had people in every market you can dream of. We have 100 and something 1000 active members now. And again, there's people that are chiropractors, dentists, doctors, people in curing cancer, wellness, health filled, people in marriage, family, counseling, relationships, dating, every market you can dream of are using ClickFunnels. And so when we opened the Inner Circle, it was crazy, because it wasn't just like, oh a whole bunch of internet marketers joined to talk about internet marketing stuff. It was like the best people in each industry joined it.

And it was so cool, because now in this mastermind I was learning like what's working now in the relationship market? What's working over here in the supplement market? What's working here, because we had such a such wide variety of people. And man for me it lit up. And if you've read, specifically the Expert Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book was written in the middle of when the Inner Circle was at its peak. When people like Brandon and Calum Poland and Alex Hormozi and I could list all, the most of the names you guys know in the ClickFunnels community today were in the Inner Circle during that time. And it was fun, because I was writing that book, I would like test ideas and then I would test it on my business, have some success, I'd share it with the entire Inner Circle and within hours it was being tested in 40 different industries. And we got feedback and course correction, and tweaks back and forth and back and forth. And really the Expert Secrets book was born from that testing process inside the Inner Circle. It was so cool.

Anyway, I digress. So for me after two years of having it closed down I reopened it, specifically because I missed learning. Like I've been in a weird spot where we've been growing, we've been acquiring companies, we're doing things, but I don't feel like I've been personally growing and you know growth is a big value for me. That's why I have so many books that I study so much, is I'm looking for ways to grow all the time. And so I reopened it with the excitement to start regrowing again with a small group of really cool people. So the Category Kings have 15 people in it. Each of them spend $150,000 a year to be part of it. And then the Inner Circle is $50,000 a year, and there's a 100 people in that one. And so those are the two groups, the Category Kings one was funny, I thought that was going to, I was like there's no way people are going to spend that much money. That one sold out in two days and Inner Circle, man we ended up from Funnel Hacking Live, we only presented it to people at Two Comma Club. We had a special luncheon. And from that I think we had 60 or 70 people join during the luncheon.

And so anyway, so there's some context to what it is, why it is, why it's exciting, why I'm so passionate about it. So with the Category Kings, to kick off kind of this new group some of you guys have read the book Play Bigger, which teaches you how to become a category king. And I thought, how cool, and it's funny, because half of our, the Category King group are actually women. So as of yesterday I'm calling it the Category King and Queens, because there's as many Queens in the group as there are Kings. But anyway I digress, I thought it'd be really cool to have one of the authors of that book come and actually present.

And so Dave Peterson came and he presented on how to like design your category. And it was interesting, because I've read the book multiple times, I've referred it to, I think he told me I was probably the top refer of his book, because I told everybody about it. And so it was interesting, because as we were preparing for this I had it in my head what he was going to do. He was going to use the principles in the book. We're going to map it out. We're going to category design. Like I thought, I really thought that was the direction we were going to go. It was interesting, because he told me, he's like, you know everything I've learned about category design for the most part happened after I wrote the book, we wrote the book based on these principles and he's like, we've been coaching for the last decade now. And he's actually now doing it in a company again.

And he's like you know most of what I’ve learned about category design, I have learned since the book. And so there's a lot of things that are different. And so anyway, we had a four hour workshop with him and what was fascinating to me was we didn't cover most of the things in the book. In fact the first hour was all spent on something that seemed so simple. I'm almost nervous to tell you guys this, because you'd be like, oh that's so simple Russell. But me and 15 other people in this room of arguably Category Kings in their industries, none of us were able to really answer it. And that's what I want to share with you guys today. So the question and it's interesting, because like the way that I, the lens that I view the world at typically for me is like, okay I'm going to go find, who's my dream customer? And then I'm going to create an offer for them. That's like for me, like ground zero, that's where I begin this process.

And then if you've read Extra Secrets, you know it's like, hey do we make an improvement offer? Or a new opportunity? Create a new opportunity. There's this whole thing around like down that rabbit hole. And that's where I begin. That's where I kind of start running with. And I always knew that when we're creating offers and creating products, and services and things like that, where like our goal to solve a problem. But what was interesting is that Dave asked us, he's like, what is the problem that you solve? And he showed a bunch of the big companies you're aware of. Like the billion dollar brands and most of them have like a really simple, less than 10 word statement on the problem that they solve for the market.

Like for example the wetsuit guy, I don't know who it was, but like his problem he's trying to solve is I want to swim in cold water longer, but that was it. I want to swim in cold water longer, eight words right. And like, what is a wetsuit? Oh it helps people swim in cold water longer. What was the problem you try to solve? Boom this is a solution and billion dollar brand. And every company had something like that. And then he was interesting, he said that he would go to, or he was talking about some of his friends that have big companies. And he said that he started doing this exercise with them, when he'd get in the car with them, and he'd be like, Hey how's it going? How's business? Real quickly, what do you think the problem is you guys as a company solve? His friend would tell him the answer and he'd write it down, and next time they hung out three or four days later he'd be talking, he's like, wait real quick, what was the question? What is the main problem you solve again?

And the guy would be like, oh, he'd tell him again, and then he'd do it again, he'd do it five or six times over the next month and a half or so. And eventually the guy came back and said, you know the seventh or eighth time he asked him, he's like, dude you got to quit asking me this. Like you keep asking and I keep telling you the problem we solve. And then Dave came back and said, actually what's interesting is I've been writing them down. He's like every single time I've asked you that question, you've given me a different answer. And the guy was like, oh my gosh. And he started looking at him and he was disagreeing with himself, not knowing it. But if you look at like, he's like I solve this problem, I solve this problem. And I solve this problem. And they kept changing around.

And he said a lot of times he'll do consulting with people and they're in category design, and he'll ask everybody in the executive team, what is the problem you solve? And everybody's answers different. And then he'll ask the employees and everyone's answers different. And he's like, this is the foundation. Business is all about solving a core problem for an industry. Like what is the core problem? And what's interesting he said that if you figure out the problem correctly, he said, the category will take care of itself. Like you don't have to go and figure out the category and design, all kind of stuff. He's like it all relies on this one thing, is what is the problem you solve?

And it was interesting, because as he said that, instant I'm like oh sweet I can answer this. And then I was like, wait a minute. I could answer this seven years ago when ClickFunnels first came out. That was the problem we were solving seven years ago? It was that entrepreneurs couldn't code. And so we had to make this easy drag and drop builder, oh sorry this is the solution. The problem is that entrepreneurs aren't coders, that's the problem right? And so we built ClickFunnels, because someone like me who's an entrepreneur who needs funnels, I can't code. And so it was like this simple thing. And so that was the problem we solved. Now fast forward seven years later, that's not the market problem anymore. There's a million ways that entrepreneurs can code something. There's a million Wix's and WYSIWYG editors, and WordPress and Shopify, and Etsy and Amazon, like there's a million ways to do it. So, that's no longer the core problem. Although, that's the problem that we solved initially.

And so it got me thinking, what is the problem we solve today? Like the problems change in a market and an industry over time. In fact, I asked someone, I was like, does the core problem stay the same forever? And he's like, no, no. He's like there's a core problem, and you got to figure out and identify that, because that'll define the category and everything else. But he's like markets shift, markets change. And he showed this graph of the CRM industry over the last 50 years or 60 years, initially he was it was business cards. And then it was some dude figured out you could take a business card and type it into a data processor. Now you had a digital business card, and then the next wave was like... Sorry, we can come back to the problem.

So the first problem is like I needed contacts. So business cards became the thing. That was the problem. And then next thing I have all these business cards, I don't know how to manage them or track them. And so someone made a program where you could type it in. It's like, oh I have a digital version, I can look at it. And if my book of business cards burns up I don't lose my business. So problem solution, and then a little while later it's like, okay this is tough I hate typing in these things. And so the next wave of that industry was card scanners, where you take a business card, you scan it and boom it's in your computer now, you've got it there. And that solved the next set of problems in the industry.

And then later it was I don't just want a business card. I want a business card, but to be able to take notes. And if I talk to somebody and things like that, and it was like the first version of CRM, and he showed, was it Seabolt and showed how they became the Category Kings and they dominated. But then eventually it was like well, first Seabolt was really hard to install and all these kind of things. And that's when Mark Benioff came out with Salesforce, which was not software, it was hard and confusing and you had to have people come install it and set up. It was just web based software. And he was the very first to do SAS based software.

And so like that became the next thing. And he kept showing them the industry shifting, because the problem shifts over time. And it was interesting, because in your market if you're not shifting your problem over time, someone else is going to solve the problem and that's when you lose the category. That's when the person passes you, which is so fascinating. And so the question came down to, what is the problem you solve? And so that's the thing I want to identify for you guys. And the problem that us entrepreneurs have is like, oh we solve a ton of problems. We do this and this and this, and this and this, and this and this, this and that is the wrong answer. You don't solve a whole bunch of problems. You've got to solve one problem for the category.

And by doing that, by creating that, by understanding and identifying and framing that problem from there the category is built. And then we got deeper and talked about POV statements and things like that, it got deeper from there. But that was the core foundation, that again, if I was teaching, I'd be like step one find a problem, step two, what is the offer? And then like you know, and I'd go directly into that, but it's like, no, no, we got to step back to the foundation, which is really what is the problem that you're solving for the industry? When you figure that out the category will take care of itself, which was so fascinating. And again, he said, try to keep your problem statement to under 10 words.

And that's hard to do. I spent 45 minutes talking about, 15 minutes work shopping it, and then I spent the next four hours like noodling on it, like try to figure this out, like what in the world, especially as I know some of you guys know we're launching ClickFunnels 2.0 soon, so like with this whole new launch, this new thing, what is the problem we're trying to solve? How do I identify? How do I structure? How do I make it so simple that it keeps us as the Category King?

So anyway I hope that's helpful. Obviously there was a lot of stuff yesterday that was really, really cool, but that was the one that was like the biggest insight. It was funny, because we came back from the first workshop, I raised my hand initially, I was like, all right I don't know if it's just me, but that was really, really hard. And I looked around at everybody else, every other Category King and Queen in the room looked back and said, oh, then Kevin's like, we're so grateful it was hard for you Russ, that was really, really hard for us and we thought we were the only ones. I'm like, no, I'm going to be vulnerable here too. That was really hard.

And then it was fun, because it opened the dialogue with us all trying to figure it out and work with each other. And Annie Grace, a lot of you guys know her, she spoke at Funnel Hacking Live two years ago, she actually wrote out mine and my POV statement and all these things for me, it was like I think this is what yours is. And like, anyway it was magical. So anyway that was the first half day of Category Kings and Queens. And so I'm heading into the event room now, I'm getting close actually. And I'm excited because I was up till two o'clock last night working on my presentation, because I'm going to, based off of what we learned yesterday with the problem I'm going to take that as the foundation point and then show everybody over the last seven years how ClickFunnels has built to the place it is. We've got over half a billion dollars in sales, well over that now, we built the category, we’ve done these things. So I'm going to kind of show the next phases for me to the group. I'll probably spend two or three hours going deep into that, which I'm so excited for. And this is like Russell raw, like if you guys see me live, I'm Russell polished where I'm, I've got slides, I've got things.

Russell raw you get me and a black marker and that's about it. So I'm excited for these guys they're going to, for those who haven't been with Russell raw this will be my first hardcore doodle session with them going through the principles of how we build ClickFunnels into the category king it is. Things I've learned along the way, the pros, the cons, the ups the downs, and yeah stuff I don't get to talk about typically. So, that's the cool thing about these groups, if you look at our coaching programs we have all the base level stuff. And then if you come in one funnel way and courses and all that kind of stuff, but when you decide to ascend up and get into coaching with us, the first is our Two Comma Club X coaching program. The goal of that is to get somebody from where they are today to Two Comma Club.

After you get done with Two Comma Club and you've made a million dollars inside of a funnel, that's when you get invited into the Inner Circle and then from there into category Kings. But it's interesting because the reason why we break it up like that, we used to always have it all together and everyone would be dumped in one coaching program. And it was tough because, or one mastermind group, but it was tough, because there're different conversations that happen at different levels. Like the conversations I'm having with people that spend $150,000 to be in a group, they have to make a minimum of five million a year, and have had to sold over 10 million. They had to have won at Two Comma Club X award. The conversations they have in that room are different than the conversation that happen in a room with people who just passed the million dollar mark. And they're different than the conversation I've going to have with somebody who is in a startup mode trying to get into Two Comma Club.

So it's just fun, because again these are things I don't get to talk about, or share ever. And so the place it gets to happen is here inside Category King. So for you guys who are looking to say, okay this is the path, I'm going to hit Two Comma Club X. And then from there Inner Circle, then Category Kings, just know we do record these things and there's a private members there. So when you get to Category King some day, come in here and watch Dave Peterson's talk on Category Kings and watch my presentations from the next day. And you'll have a chance to kind of see where I went from there. So with that said, thanks for listening. This is a long episode because I got a long ride. Hopefully you guys enjoyed it. I miss doing stuff like this, I'm going to try to...

We have some fun updates to the podcast coming that I'm doing a few things more long form, I'm going to have someone come and interview me on some topics, because I think those make fun episodes and yeah it's going to be anyway... I'm going to be spending more time with you guys here, is my plan and my goal. So with that said, thanks so much for everything and we'll talk to you guys all again soon.

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]]> 1233 no I Bought Dan Kennedy’s Company!! Here is the Plan Over the Next 12 Months!!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/i-bought-dan-kennedys-company-here-is-the-plan-over-the-next-12-months Recently I acquired my mentor’s company, and we’re working over the next 12 months turning it around. If you want to know what we’re doing and why, listen to this episode. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys have an amazing day. I had a really fun, interesting week working with Dan Kennedy's company, Magnetic Marketing, and a whole bunch of other cool things. Some of you guys may or may not have heard, but we acquired his company recently. And with that, we got 40 years of intellectual property. And so this episode, we'll talk about what we're doing with it all, what it's going to look like, why I'm so excited, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. All right. So number one, how cool is this? I keep pinching myself. When I first got in this game, my first mentors, my first internet mentor really was Mark Joyner, which helped get me to a certain level. And then I started looking for more stuff and that's when I bumped into Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer, and I started going to their mastermind groups and their events. And man, it really was like the next evolution for me is just really understanding these core principles and things that have been working since the beginning. I always kind of tease these guys are teaching how to use fax machines and the Pony Express to deliver marketing messages, because a lot of it was like direct mail bootcamps and stuff like that, all kind of older school stuff. And at first it didn't make sense to me how this stuff worked until really I started realizing through Dan that these things that we all think we are, like we think we're internet marketers, he's like, "No, no, no." He's like, "The internet is a channel. It's a media channel." And a lot of us, we think Facebook, Instagram, YouTube is media channels, but for Dan's rule, it's like the internet's one channel. There's direct mail, there's TV, there's radio, and internet is a channel. And nowadays obviously it is I think the best and the coolest channel, but the principles and the philosophies and the psychology and the persuasion and all the things that are working today on the internet are things that were pioneered and developed through direct mail, through TV, through radio. And so, so much of Dan's stuff, he's had a chance to work with everybody for the last 40 years. I say 40, not four, the last 40 years has been just kind of all around these things. And it's just like ... Anyway, so I digress. Again, when I was getting into this, I started learning those things and all the sudden I was like, oh my gosh, the things I'm learning that they did in their fax marketing or their direct mail, I can use on the internet, I can use on the Facebook ads, I can use, and for me really, it was what changed my business. And honestly, for most of you guys, your businesses, as well. A lot of you guys probably don't even know that the core foundations that ClickFunnels were built on were the principles that I learned from Dan Kennedy and that we just turned it into software and turned it something that everybody could do. So that's why it's so exciting. And we recently acquired the company, which is a huge honor for me because I have this unique opportunity and chance now to take my mentor's stuff and to continue it on and bring it into the future. And I'm excited. So this week, on Monday, Tuesday, this week, we had the existing Magnetic Marketing team, the people that are still there, the company flew out here to Boise, and we spent two days kind of figuring out what's the plans, what's the future? How do we get this thing back to the point where there's 10,000 active members on membership and there's all these things that are happening? And so as they showed up, we also had a chance to look at like, okay, what did we actually acquire here? What's all the intellectual property? And it's insane. There's 40 years of stuff. And some is not relevant, and so we're sifting through those, but most of it is some of the best stuff ever. And it's cool, because as we were building out funnels and looking at these courses that they've been selling for $2,500 or $3,000 or $5,000, and it's just like, they're not selling a lot of them. I'm like, ugh, it's because they just need to be packaged differently. But I also think that the pricing is different nowadays than it was 15, 20 years ago, even. And so what's going to be cool is we're taking, you know, Dan's written, I don't know, 20, 30 books, we're taking each book and we're figuring out what courses sync with it, what content fits in this process. And we're building out new funnels, like book funnels that take people through all the products and the courses and the events that Dan did related to each book. Every book he wrote, he wrote a book and then they'd do an event teaching it and then they would do workshops and they'd do all these things. And so every book has got like an archive of stuff that nobody's ever seen before, which is insane. And I'm going through the archives. I'm like, oh my gosh, I thought I owned everything Dan ever had, and I had never seen this, never seen this, never heard of this. And so it's just so exciting. We're having a chance to come pull things out and plug them in and all these things. But as excited and as nerdy as I am in this process, the thing I wanted to share with you guys is that the things that you are learning, the principles you are learning, the things that you've been, especially going deep with me and you've been reading DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets, literally all we're doing is using that playbook. I'm coming in to this company where I learned a lot of these principles with, but the company's been sold twice since Dan and Bill ran it. So they've fallen away from a lot of the core principles that made them great initially. And so what we're doing literally is like, hey, what's the value ladder? Okay, what is the front end offer? Okay, here's the funnel, what do we need? What's the free plus shipping? What's the order form bump? What's upsell one, upsell two? What's downsell? You know, like walking through and then, okay after someone buys this, where's the next step we take them? What's the next tier on the value ladder? How do we move them up one tier? And then okay, from there, what content do we need, what pieces, and we're kind of just literally just taking the same blueprint that you guys have been learning forever. I laid the blueprint out for you guys, like this is the blueprint. It doesn't deviate. It doesn't change. It's the same for every business. I don't care if you're selling info, products, or coaching, or physical products, or dental, you know, cleaning people's teeth, or if you are doing chiropractic adjustments. It doesn't matter. It's all the same. The framework's the same. It's like a house. The framework's the same. You have a bathroom. You have a kitchen. It doesn't matter if you're making a $30,000 house or a $30 million house, the framework's the same. And so we're just bringing up the same frameworks you guys have been learning and studying and then taking all of the pieces, the content, the copy, the assets and everything, and just plugging it into that framework. So I wanted to share that with all you guys, because I know that, and I'm probably one of the causes of this because I get so excited and I want to launch a thousand funnels because I know the profits, I know how they work. I can just do it over and over again. And so we roll out a lot of things. But if you actually look at this strategy, me coming into this new company and having 40 years of intellectual property and a million courses and products and all this stuff, the strategy is the same. It's the same thing. And so if I was you guys and you're still not sure what to do, start there, start with the DotCom Secrets book, read the book and say, okay, what's the value ladder? What's funnel number one? What's offers inside of funnel number one? And coming back to the basics. I get people, it's crazy, on Instagram, I don't know if you guys ever click over to the other tab, which is messages that don't go in the inbox. I look at that probably once a week or so, just to see if I'm missing any conversations with people who I need to be having conversations with. And I look over there just to make sure I'm not missing anything. And as crazy as it is, I will tell you that each week there are probably anywhere from 20 to 50 people that message like, "Oh your stuff's so good. Where do I start?" Or, "I love your stuff. I can't figure how to get started. What should I do?" Like oh my gosh, you guys, this is simple. Read book number one. That's why I wrote the first book, so you'd have the foundation. Go read DotCom Secrets. The same thing that we're doing now, after we acquired this huge company, it's like okay, apply principles. It reminds me of Vince Lombardi. They said the first year of every football season, he'd walk out to his team. We're the best in the world, you know? And he'd hold the football and be like, "Gentlemen, this is a football." And he's just showing them, here's the foundation, here's the beginning. Here's the start of this. And I think that's what sometimes we forget, is we're trying to figure out the secret ninja, Facebook advertising hack, and the this and the that. And it's like, no, no, no, come back to the fundamentals, come back to the foundation. Gentlemen, this is a funnel. Right? Okay. Which funnel is it? Value ladder, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then you're just plugging the pieces into the model that's been proven to work over and over and over again for decades. And like I said, initially, it's the stuff I learned from Dan and learned from Bill, and such an honor to have a chance to come back. In fact, it's funny, because I was like, I'm going back to the advertising archives. We're pulling all the old sales letters back from when Dan and Bill ran the company. It's like, okay, this is what we need to see, because this is when it was done correctly. You know, everything in the last decade, since some of the other people who bought the company, they messed up the model. They didn't understand the model. They bought it, not understanding it. And they jacked the whole thing up. We're coming back, thinking back to the foundations, back to the fundamentals. What worked before? How does this work? Plug in the system. And so I'm excited. You guys will see the first iteration of what we're doing. We'll be launching probably the first week in January or maybe the last week in December. Not quite positive, but around there. And then over the next 12 months, you'll see the process. You'll see it happening in real time. You'll see, oh, there's the front end of the value. Oh, he's moving us up a step. Oh, from there we're moving to the high ticket. Oh, from there there's a continuity. You'll be able to see it rolled out in real time over the next 12 months, which will be really, really fun. So I'm pumped. I'm excited. Hope you guys, are as well, to see behind the scenes of the process. But that's what we did this week. So if you guys, if you are at the beginning of your business, I would stop what you're doing. Go reread DotCom Secrets, and then do what we just did. Do two day planning meetings. Okay, what's our value ladder? What's the funnel? What are the offers inside the funnels? What's the first funnel we're going to launch? And then just focus on that. Because we built out a whole value ladder. This is the thing that a lot of people make mistakes. They build a value ladder and they're like, okay, I've got to build all these things. And then they spend the next six years building all the things. No. You build a value ladder so you know where you're going. But then you just build the first thing. Like for us, it's okay, now we know where we're going between now and the next three months. The only thing that matters is this funnel, that's it. Nothing else matters. And blinders on. Let's go. And that's what we're focusing on for the next, well, it shouldn't take three months because we're ClickFunnels. Come on now. But the next 30 days, the next 60 days, is picking the one and focusing on it and not trying to build out the coaching program, the high ticket, and all these things in between, it's like, no, just focus on the one. The value ladder is there so we know where we're going, but we begin from our funnel and launch it and then we start the process from there. So anyway, I hope that helps. Again, if you're just beginning, go read the DotCom Secrets book, take two days with your business partner, your family, your friends, whoever you're working with, and map that out. If you've got a business that you just acquired and you're trying to figure it out, do that. If you are struggling in business and you're like, it's all chaos and nothing's working, and you're frustrated, take two days and do this. It's key. So hope that helps you guys. Anyway, we're getting close to Halloween. I've got my Inner Circle. Some of you guys know we relaunched Inner Circle at Funnel Hacking Live. We actually relaunched three different tiers. First is the Inner Circle for life, which is $50,000 a year. And we have, I think like 70 or 80 people signed up for that, which is crazy, but I'm excited to be able to bring back the Inner Circle. It's been closed for two years. And then we opened a second tier of Inner Circle called the Category Kings. And we started the pricing there at $150,000 a year. And there's only 14 spots. I was like, oh, it's going to take us a while to fill that up. We sold those 14 spots in two days and we have a waiting list of probably 30 people who are waiting to be able to send me $150,000 for that, which is insane. I didn't think that was going to happen. So note to self, I should have launched two Category King groups. Anyway, not this year, I'm too tired. And then we have a third tier called the Atlas Group, which is going to be, I know we have people on the waiting list. We haven't actually opened that one yet, and it's going to be really fun as well. So anyway, I'm excited because next week, all next week we've got five days of meetings with the first two tiers of Inner Circle and it's going to be a lot of fun. So anyway, I'm sure I'll probably box you, or not box you, probably do podcast episodes somewhere during that window next week and share some of the insights and the ideas and things that are happening there. And if you want to be in the Inner Circle someday, I always tell people this is where you're ascending to, get in my Inner Circle. That's where I have a chance to work really close in very small groups with you guys. So that is a goal. Nowadays you have to be a Two Comma Club winner to qualify for it. So set that as a goal. Get your Two Comma Club and then get in the Inner Circle with us, coming out, because there's a lot of fun stuff happening. All right, thanks everybody. Appreciate you all for listening, and excited to show off what we're going to be doing behind the scenes with Magnetic Marketing, Dan Kennedy's company, over the next 12 months. Thanks everybody, and we'll talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000 I Bought Dan Kennedy’s Company!! Here is the Plan Over the Next 12 Months!!! full 460 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently I acquired my mentor’s company, and we’re working over the next 12 months turning it around. If you want to know what we’re doing and why, listen to this episode. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter... Recently I acquired my mentor’s company, and we’re working over the next 12 months turning it around. If you want to know what we’re doing and why, listen to this episode. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys have an amazing day. I had a really fun, interesting week working with Dan Kennedy's company, Magnetic Marketing, and a whole bunch of other cool things. Some of you guys may or may not have heard, but we acquired his company recently. And with that, we got 40 years of intellectual property. And so this episode, we'll talk about what we're doing with it all, what it's going to look like, why I'm so excited, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. All right. So number one, how cool is this? I keep pinching myself. When I first got in this game, my first mentors, my first internet mentor really was Mark Joyner, which helped get me to a certain level. And then I started looking for more stuff and that's when I bumped into Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer, and I started going to their mastermind groups and their events. And man, it really was like the next evolution for me is just really understanding these core principles and things that have been working since the beginning. I always kind of tease these guys are teaching how to use fax machines and the Pony Express to deliver marketing messages, because a lot of it was like direct mail bootcamps and stuff like that, all kind of older school stuff. And at first it didn't make sense to me how this stuff worked until really I started realizing through Dan that these things that we all think we are, like we think we're internet marketers, he's like, "No, no, no." He's like, "The internet is a channel. It's a media channel." And a lot of us, we think Facebook, Instagram, YouTube is media channels, but for Dan's rule, it's like the internet's one channel. There's direct mail, there's TV, there's radio, and internet is a channel. And nowadays obviously it is I think the best and the coolest channel, but the principles and the philosophies and the psychology and the persuasion and all the things that are working today on the internet are things that were pioneered and developed through direct mail, through TV, through radio. And so, so much of Dan's stuff, he's had a chance to work with everybody for the last 40 years. I say 40, not four, the last 40 years has been just kind of all around these things. And it's just like ... Anyway, so I digress. Again, when I was getting into this, I started learning those things and all the sudden I was like, oh my gosh, the things I'm learning that they did in their fax marketing or their direct mail, I can use on the internet, I can use on the Facebook ads, I can use, and for me really, it was what changed my business. And honestly, for most of you guys, your businesses, as well. A lot of you guys probably don't even know that the core foundations that ClickFunnels were built on were the principles that I learned from Dan Kennedy and that we just turned it into software and turned it something that everybody could do. So that's why it's so exciting. And we recently acquired the company, which is a huge honor for me because I have this unique opportunity and chance now to take my mentor's stuff and to continue it on and bring it into the future. And I'm excited. So this week, on Monday, Tuesday, this week, we had the existing Magnetic Marketing team, the people that are still there, the company flew out here to Boise, and we spent two days kind of figuring out what's the plans, what's the future? How do we get this thing back to the point where there's 10,000 active members on membership and there's all these things that are happening? And so as they showed up, we also had a chance to look at like, okay, what did we actually acquire here? What's all the intellectual property? And it's insane. There's 40 years of stuff. And some is not relevant, and so we're sifting through those, but most of it is some of the best stuff ever. And it's cool, because as we were building out funnels and looking at these courses that they've been selling for $2,500 or $3,000 or $5,000, and it's just like, they're not selling a lot of them. I'm like, ugh, it's because they just need to be packaged differently. But I also think that the pricing is different nowadays than it was 15, 20 years ago, even. And so what's going to be cool is we're taking, you know, Dan's written, I don't know, 20, 30 books, we're taking each book and we're figuring out what courses sync with it, what content fits in this process. And we're building out new funnels, like book funnels that take people through all the products and the courses and the events that Dan did related to each book. Every book he wrote, he wrote a book and then they'd do an event teaching it and then they would do workshops and they'd do all these things. And so every book has got like an archive of stuff that nobody's ever seen before, which is insane. And I'm going through the archives. I'm like, oh my gosh, I thought I owned everything Dan ever had, and I had never seen this, never seen this, never heard of this. And so it's just so exciting. We're having a chance to come pull things out and plug them in and all these things. But as excited and as nerdy as I am in this process, the thing I wanted to share with you guys is that the things that you are learning, the principles you are learning, the things that you've been, especially going deep with me and you've been reading DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets, literally all we're doing is using that playbook. I'm coming in to this company where I learned a lot of these principles with, but the company's been sold twice since Dan and Bill ran it. So they've fallen away from a lot of the core principles that made them great initially. And so what we're doing literally is like, hey, what's the value ladder? Okay, what is the front end offer? Okay, here's the funnel, what do we need? What's the free plus shipping? What's the order form bump? What's upsell one, upsell two? What's downsell? You know, like walking through and then, okay after someone buys this, where's the next step we take them? What's the next tier on the value ladder? How do we move them up one tier? And then okay, from there, what content do we need, what pieces, and we're kind of just literally just taking the same blueprint that you guys have been learning forever. I laid the blueprint out for you guys, like this is the blueprint. It doesn't deviate. It doesn't change. It's the same for every business. I don't care if you're selling info, products, or coaching, or physical products, or dental, you know, cleaning people's teeth, or if you are doing chiropractic adjustments. It doesn't matter. It's all the same. The framework's the same. It's like a house. The framework's the same. You have a bathroom. You have a kitchen. It doesn't matter if you're making a $30,000 house or a $30 million house, the framework's the same. And so we're just bringing up the same frameworks you guys have been learning and studying and then taking all of the pieces, the content, the copy, the assets and everything, and just plugging it into that framework. So I wanted to share that with all you guys, because I know that, and I'm probably one of the causes of this because I get so excited and I want to launch a thousand funnels because I know the profits, I know how they work. I can just do it over and over again. And so we roll out a lot of things. But if you actually look at this strategy, me coming into this new company and having 40 years of intellectual property and a million courses and products and all this stuff, the strategy is the same. It's the same thing. And so if I was you guys and you're still not sure what to do, start there, start with the DotCom Secrets book, read the book and say, okay, what's the value ladder? What's funnel number one? What's offers inside of funnel number one? And coming back to the basics. I get people, it's crazy, on Instagram, I don't know if you guys ever click over to the other tab, which is messages that don't go in the inbox. I look at that probably once a week or so, just to see if I'm missing any conversations with people who I need to be having conversations with. And I look over there just to make sure I'm not missing anything. And as crazy as it is, I will tell you that each week there are probably anywhere from 20 to 50 people that message like, "Oh your stuff's so good. Where do I start?" Or, "I love your stuff. I can't figure how to get started. What should I do?" Like oh my gosh, you guys, this is simple. Read book number one. That's why I wrote the first book, so you'd have the foundation. Go read DotCom Secrets. The same thing that we're doing now, after we acquired this huge company, it's like okay, apply principles. It reminds me of Vince Lombardi. They said the first year of every football season, he'd walk out to his team. We're the best in the world, you know? And he'd hold the football and be like, "Gentlemen, this is a football." And he's just showing them, here's the foundation, here's the beginning. Here's the start of this. And I think that's what sometimes we forget, is we're trying to figure out the secret ninja, Facebook advertising hack, and the this and the that. And it's like, no, no, no, come back to the fundamentals, come back to the foundation. Gentlemen, this is a funnel. Right? Okay. Which funnel is it? Value ladder, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then you're just plugging the pieces into the model that's been proven to work over and over and over again for decades. And like I said, initially, it's the stuff I learned from Dan and learned from Bill, and such an honor to have a chance to come back. In fact, it's funny, because I was like, I'm going back to the advertising archives. We're pulling all the old sales letters back from when Dan and Bill ran the company. It's like, okay, this is what we need to see, because this is when it was done correctly. You know, everything in the last decade, since some of the other people who bought the company, they messed up the model. They didn't understand the model. They bought it, not understanding it. And they jacked the whole thing up. We're coming back, thinking back to the foundations, back to the fundamentals. What worked before? How does this work? Plug in the system. And so I'm excited. You guys will see the first iteration of what we're doing. We'll be launching probably the first week in January or maybe the last week in December. Not quite positive, but around there. And then over the next 12 months, you'll see the process. You'll see it happening in real time. You'll see, oh, there's the front end of the value. Oh, he's moving us up a step. Oh, from there we're moving to the high ticket. Oh, from there there's a continuity. You'll be able to see it rolled out in real time over the next 12 months, which will be really, really fun. So I'm pumped. I'm excited. Hope you guys, are as well, to see behind the scenes of the process. But that's what we did this week. So if you guys, if you are at the beginning of your business, I would stop what you're doing. Go reread DotCom Secrets, and then do what we just did. Do two day planning meetings. Okay, what's our value ladder? What's the funnel? What are the offers inside the funnels? What's the first funnel we're going to launch? And then just focus on that. Because we built out a whole value ladder. This is the thing that a lot of people make mistakes. They build a value ladder and they're like, okay, I've got to build all these things. And then they spend the next six years building all the things. No. You build a value ladder so you know where you're going. But then you just build the first thing. Like for us, it's okay, now we know where we're going between now and the next three months. The only thing that matters is this funnel, that's it. Nothing else matters. And blinders on. Let's go. And that's what we're focusing on for the next, well, it shouldn't take three months because we're ClickFunnels. Come on now. But the next 30 days, the next 60 days, is picking the one and focusing on it and not trying to build out the coaching program, the high ticket, and all these things in between, it's like, no, just focus on the one. The value ladder is there so we know where we're going, but we begin from our funnel and launch it and then we start the process from there. So anyway, I hope that helps. Again, if you're just beginning, go read the DotCom Secrets book, take two days with your business partner, your family, your friends, whoever you're working with, and map that out. If you've got a business that you just acquired and you're trying to figure it out, do that. If you are struggling in business and you're like, it's all chaos and nothing's working, and you're frustrated, take two days and do this. It's key. So hope that helps you guys. Anyway, we're getting close to Halloween. I've got my Inner Circle. Some of you guys know we relaunched Inner Circle at Funnel Hacking Live. We actually relaunched three different tiers. First is the Inner Circle for life, which is $50,000 a year. And we have, I think like 70 or 80 people signed up for that, which is crazy, but I'm excited to be able to bring back the Inner Circle. It's been closed for two years. And then we opened a second tier of Inner Circle called the Category Kings. And we started the pricing there at $150,000 a year. And there's only 14 spots. I was like, oh, it's going to take us a while to fill that up. We sold those 14 spots in two days and we have a waiting list of probably 30 people who are waiting to be able to send me $150,000 for that, which is insane. I didn't think that was going to happen. So note to self, I should have launched two Category King groups. Anyway, not this year, I'm too tired. And then we have a third tier called the Atlas Group, which is going to be, I know we have people on the waiting list. We haven't actually opened that one yet, and it's going to be really fun as well. So anyway, I'm excited because next week, all next week we've got five days of meetings with the first two tiers of Inner Circle and it's going to be a lot of fun. So anyway, I'm sure I'll probably box you, or not box you, probably do podcast episodes somewhere during that window next week and share some of the insights and the ideas and things that are happening there. And if you want to be in the Inner Circle someday, I always tell people this is where you're ascending to, get in my Inner Circle. That's where I have a chance to work really close in very small groups with you guys. So that is a goal. Nowadays you have to be a Two Comma Club winner to qualify for it. So set that as a goal. Get your Two Comma Club and then get in the Inner Circle with us, coming out, because there's a lot of fun stuff happening. All right, thanks everybody. Appreciate you all for listening, and excited to show off what we're going to be doing behind the scenes with Magnetic Marketing, Dan Kennedy's company, over the next 12 months. Thanks everybody, and we'll talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently I acquired my mentor’s company, and we’re working over the next 12 months turning it around. If you want to know what we’re doing and why, listen to this episode.

Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com

---Transcript---

Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys have an amazing day. I had a really fun, interesting week working with Dan Kennedy's company, Magnetic Marketing, and a whole bunch of other cool things. Some of you guys may or may not have heard, but we acquired his company recently. And with that, we got 40 years of intellectual property. And so this episode, we'll talk about what we're doing with it all, what it's going to look like, why I'm so excited, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff.

All right. So number one, how cool is this? I keep pinching myself. When I first got in this game, my first mentors, my first internet mentor really was Mark Joyner, which helped get me to a certain level. And then I started looking for more stuff and that's when I bumped into Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer, and I started going to their mastermind groups and their events. And man, it really was like the next evolution for me is just really understanding these core principles and things that have been working since the beginning. I always kind of tease these guys are teaching how to use fax machines and the Pony Express to deliver marketing messages, because a lot of it was like direct mail bootcamps and stuff like that, all kind of older school stuff.

And at first it didn't make sense to me how this stuff worked until really I started realizing through Dan that these things that we all think we are, like we think we're internet marketers, he's like, "No, no, no." He's like, "The internet is a channel. It's a media channel." And a lot of us, we think Facebook, Instagram, YouTube is media channels, but for Dan's rule, it's like the internet's one channel. There's direct mail, there's TV, there's radio, and internet is a channel. And nowadays obviously it is I think the best and the coolest channel, but the principles and the philosophies and the psychology and the persuasion and all the things that are working today on the internet are things that were pioneered and developed through direct mail, through TV, through radio.

And so, so much of Dan's stuff, he's had a chance to work with everybody for the last 40 years. I say 40, not four, the last 40 years has been just kind of all around these things. And it's just like ... Anyway, so I digress. Again, when I was getting into this, I started learning those things and all the sudden I was like, oh my gosh, the things I'm learning that they did in their fax marketing or their direct mail, I can use on the internet, I can use on the Facebook ads, I can use, and for me really, it was what changed my business. And honestly, for most of you guys, your businesses, as well.

A lot of you guys probably don't even know that the core foundations that ClickFunnels were built on were the principles that I learned from Dan Kennedy and that we just turned it into software and turned it something that everybody could do. So that's why it's so exciting. And we recently acquired the company, which is a huge honor for me because I have this unique opportunity and chance now to take my mentor's stuff and to continue it on and bring it into the future. And I'm excited.

So this week, on Monday, Tuesday, this week, we had the existing Magnetic Marketing team, the people that are still there, the company flew out here to Boise, and we spent two days kind of figuring out what's the plans, what's the future? How do we get this thing back to the point where there's 10,000 active members on membership and there's all these things that are happening?

And so as they showed up, we also had a chance to look at like, okay, what did we actually acquire here? What's all the intellectual property? And it's insane. There's 40 years of stuff. And some is not relevant, and so we're sifting through those, but most of it is some of the best stuff ever. And it's cool, because as we were building out funnels and looking at these courses that they've been selling for $2,500 or $3,000 or $5,000, and it's just like, they're not selling a lot of them. I'm like, ugh, it's because they just need to be packaged differently. But I also think that the pricing is different nowadays than it was 15, 20 years ago, even.

And so what's going to be cool is we're taking, you know, Dan's written, I don't know, 20, 30 books, we're taking each book and we're figuring out what courses sync with it, what content fits in this process. And we're building out new funnels, like book funnels that take people through all the products and the courses and the events that Dan did related to each book. Every book he wrote, he wrote a book and then they'd do an event teaching it and then they would do workshops and they'd do all these things. And so every book has got like an archive of stuff that nobody's ever seen before, which is insane. And I'm going through the archives. I'm like, oh my gosh, I thought I owned everything Dan ever had, and I had never seen this, never seen this, never heard of this. And so it's just so exciting. We're having a chance to come pull things out and plug them in and all these things.

But as excited and as nerdy as I am in this process, the thing I wanted to share with you guys is that the things that you are learning, the principles you are learning, the things that you've been, especially going deep with me and you've been reading DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets, literally all we're doing is using that playbook. I'm coming in to this company where I learned a lot of these principles with, but the company's been sold twice since Dan and Bill ran it. So they've fallen away from a lot of the core principles that made them great initially.

And so what we're doing literally is like, hey, what's the value ladder? Okay, what is the front end offer? Okay, here's the funnel, what do we need? What's the free plus shipping? What's the order form bump? What's upsell one, upsell two? What's downsell? You know, like walking through and then, okay after someone buys this, where's the next step we take them? What's the next tier on the value ladder? How do we move them up one tier? And then okay, from there, what content do we need, what pieces, and we're kind of just literally just taking the same blueprint that you guys have been learning forever. I laid the blueprint out for you guys, like this is the blueprint. It doesn't deviate. It doesn't change.

It's the same for every business. I don't care if you're selling info, products, or coaching, or physical products, or dental, you know, cleaning people's teeth, or if you are doing chiropractic adjustments. It doesn't matter. It's all the same. The framework's the same. It's like a house. The framework's the same. You have a bathroom. You have a kitchen. It doesn't matter if you're making a $30,000 house or a $30 million house, the framework's the same. And so we're just bringing up the same frameworks you guys have been learning and studying and then taking all of the pieces, the content, the copy, the assets and everything, and just plugging it into that framework.

So I wanted to share that with all you guys, because I know that, and I'm probably one of the causes of this because I get so excited and I want to launch a thousand funnels because I know the profits, I know how they work. I can just do it over and over again. And so we roll out a lot of things. But if you actually look at this strategy, me coming into this new company and having 40 years of intellectual property and a million courses and products and all this stuff, the strategy is the same. It's the same thing. And so if I was you guys and you're still not sure what to do, start there, start with the DotCom Secrets book, read the book and say, okay, what's the value ladder? What's funnel number one? What's offers inside of funnel number one? And coming back to the basics.

I get people, it's crazy, on Instagram, I don't know if you guys ever click over to the other tab, which is messages that don't go in the inbox. I look at that probably once a week or so, just to see if I'm missing any conversations with people who I need to be having conversations with. And I look over there just to make sure I'm not missing anything. And as crazy as it is, I will tell you that each week there are probably anywhere from 20 to 50 people that message like, "Oh your stuff's so good. Where do I start?" Or, "I love your stuff. I can't figure how to get started. What should I do?"

Like oh my gosh, you guys, this is simple. Read book number one. That's why I wrote the first book, so you'd have the foundation. Go read DotCom Secrets. The same thing that we're doing now, after we acquired this huge company, it's like okay, apply principles. It reminds me of Vince Lombardi. They said the first year of every football season, he'd walk out to his team. We're the best in the world, you know? And he'd hold the football and be like, "Gentlemen, this is a football." And he's just showing them, here's the foundation, here's the beginning. Here's the start of this.

And I think that's what sometimes we forget, is we're trying to figure out the secret ninja, Facebook advertising hack, and the this and the that. And it's like, no, no, no, come back to the fundamentals, come back to the foundation. Gentlemen, this is a funnel. Right? Okay. Which funnel is it? Value ladder, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then you're just plugging the pieces into the model that's been proven to work over and over and over again for decades. And like I said, initially, it's the stuff I learned from Dan and learned from Bill, and such an honor to have a chance to come back.

In fact, it's funny, because I was like, I'm going back to the advertising archives. We're pulling all the old sales letters back from when Dan and Bill ran the company. It's like, okay, this is what we need to see, because this is when it was done correctly. You know, everything in the last decade, since some of the other people who bought the company, they messed up the model. They didn't understand the model. They bought it, not understanding it. And they jacked the whole thing up. We're coming back, thinking back to the foundations, back to the fundamentals. What worked before? How does this work? Plug in the system.

And so I'm excited. You guys will see the first iteration of what we're doing. We'll be launching probably the first week in January or maybe the last week in December. Not quite positive, but around there. And then over the next 12 months, you'll see the process. You'll see it happening in real time. You'll see, oh, there's the front end of the value. Oh, he's moving us up a step. Oh, from there we're moving to the high ticket. Oh, from there there's a continuity. You'll be able to see it rolled out in real time over the next 12 months, which will be really, really fun. So I'm pumped. I'm excited. Hope you guys, are as well, to see behind the scenes of the process. But that's what we did this week.

So if you guys, if you are at the beginning of your business, I would stop what you're doing. Go reread DotCom Secrets, and then do what we just did. Do two day planning meetings. Okay, what's our value ladder? What's the funnel? What are the offers inside the funnels? What's the first funnel we're going to launch? And then just focus on that. Because we built out a whole value ladder. This is the thing that a lot of people make mistakes. They build a value ladder and they're like, okay, I've got to build all these things. And then they spend the next six years building all the things.

No. You build a value ladder so you know where you're going. But then you just build the first thing. Like for us, it's okay, now we know where we're going between now and the next three months. The only thing that matters is this funnel, that's it. Nothing else matters. And blinders on. Let's go. And that's what we're focusing on for the next, well, it shouldn't take three months because we're ClickFunnels. Come on now. But the next 30 days, the next 60 days, is picking the one and focusing on it and not trying to build out the coaching program, the high ticket, and all these things in between, it's like, no, just focus on the one. The value ladder is there so we know where we're going, but we begin from our funnel and launch it and then we start the process from there.

So anyway, I hope that helps. Again, if you're just beginning, go read the DotCom Secrets book, take two days with your business partner, your family, your friends, whoever you're working with, and map that out. If you've got a business that you just acquired and you're trying to figure it out, do that. If you are struggling in business and you're like, it's all chaos and nothing's working, and you're frustrated, take two days and do this. It's key. So hope that helps you guys.

Anyway, we're getting close to Halloween. I've got my Inner Circle. Some of you guys know we relaunched Inner Circle at Funnel Hacking Live. We actually relaunched three different tiers. First is the Inner Circle for life, which is $50,000 a year. And we have, I think like 70 or 80 people signed up for that, which is crazy, but I'm excited to be able to bring back the Inner Circle. It's been closed for two years. And then we opened a second tier of Inner Circle called the Category Kings. And we started the pricing there at $150,000 a year. And there's only 14 spots. I was like, oh, it's going to take us a while to fill that up. We sold those 14 spots in two days and we have a waiting list of probably 30 people who are waiting to be able to send me $150,000 for that, which is insane. I didn't think that was going to happen. So note to self, I should have launched two Category King groups. Anyway, not this year, I'm too tired.

And then we have a third tier called the Atlas Group, which is going to be, I know we have people on the waiting list. We haven't actually opened that one yet, and it's going to be really fun as well. So anyway, I'm excited because next week, all next week we've got five days of meetings with the first two tiers of Inner Circle and it's going to be a lot of fun. So anyway, I'm sure I'll probably box you, or not box you, probably do podcast episodes somewhere during that window next week and share some of the insights and the ideas and things that are happening there.

And if you want to be in the Inner Circle someday, I always tell people this is where you're ascending to, get in my Inner Circle. That's where I have a chance to work really close in very small groups with you guys. So that is a goal. Nowadays you have to be a Two Comma Club winner to qualify for it. So set that as a goal. Get your Two Comma Club and then get in the Inner Circle with us, coming out, because there's a lot of fun stuff happening. All right, thanks everybody. Appreciate you all for listening, and excited to show off what we're going to be doing behind the scenes with Magnetic Marketing, Dan Kennedy's company, over the next 12 months. Thanks everybody, and we'll talk soon.

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]]> 876 no Funnel Hacking Live 2021 - Day #3 And #4 Recap https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-2021-day-3-and-4-recap Here is the exciting wrap up of the final two days of this year’s Funnel Hacking Live event! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, I'm going to break down day number three and day number four of Funnel Hacking Live for you. All right, so day three is where we start transitioning into... For me, if I go in very funnel specific, I like taking people through on this day, the bottom of the value ladder, moving up, and just showing a lot of different ways to build funnels, because there's so many different ways to do it. You can have book funnels, and challenge funnels, and webinar funnels, and high ticket funnels, and a million other things in between, summit funnels. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, and so on day three I started going into this. And the very first person that we had speak in the morning was Kiana Danial, and she's someone who has been on every news channel a million times, Fox news, CNBC, all the business stuff, talking about investing and things like that. And she thought that was going to make her a bunch of money, but it didn't. And she ended up joining our Two Comma Club Coaching Program a couple of years ago, and we got her focusing on driving all that traffic to a funnel, and in no time she became a Two Comma Club winner. And so it was cool having her tell that story, just showing all these things that she thought meant it was going to be money like, "I thought I'd be on TV on all these shows all the time. I thought these things were going to be the things that made me money, but it wasn't. It wasn't until I actually had a funnel, I had a way to convert people into customer, that I started making money. And so it was really cool hearing her presentation. And then after that, we started moving up the value ladder. So next was Pedro Adao, and Pedro has become infamous for challenge funnels, not like challenge funnels like The One Funnel Away, which is a paid challenge funnel, but doing free challenge funnels. And Pedro talked about that, and he was awesome, he was on fire people went crazy. This is actually important, the one reason I had Pedro in here is because inside the new Two Comma Club Coaching Program, if somebody chooses the expert route, the first eight weeks we focus on them all doing a challenge, and so it's fun for them, they'll see through Pedro what these challenge funnels look like. And then later in the pitch, we would come back and say, "Oh, that thing that Pedro did, we're going to be doing that." And Pedro is going to be one of the coaches helping on that, which is really cool. So Pedro talked about free challenge funnels. After he was done, then Peng Joon, he’s one of my favorite speakers, but he was stuck in Malaysia. We almost didn't know if he was going to come, he's like... Anyway, it was a big deal to get him here, and luckily he made it to the States. And what was cool is he showed how you can basically take a 30 minute presentation and turn a 30 minute presentation into an entire business, and he showed how he did it. With last time we spoke at Funnel Hacking Live, he took his presentation, he made it a book, and from there he had an upsell of the audio book, and the episode, the done for you version, and the done with you version, and he showed the whole process, how you can take one 30 minute presentation and turn it into entire business, and lead with the book funnel, and that was really cool to see that. I think it's something that most people could do pretty simply and pretty easily. After Peng Joon, then we started moving up the value ladder a little higher to Lauren Golden, and Lauren, she's built her empire, and she won multiple Two Comma Club awards, primarily through webinar funnels. So she talked about webinar funnels, showed her process there, and then she talked about other bunch of the cool things that she was really excited talking about as well, but it was the next phase of the value ladder, is like, "Hey, here's a webinar funnel." After Lauren was done, then Sarah Petty had been doing live event funnels and crushing it, and doing huge volume. The market she serves are photographers. A lot of times people think, "Well, there's not much money in photography. Photographers aren't going to pay for high ticket things." But Sarah does these virtual live events and gets photographers on them, and then from there sells a really expensive high-end coaching, and they're killing with it. And it's just really cool to see cause they do a lot of just things that I don't think through. I don't know if it's like feminine masculine, or maybe she's just more creative than me, probably that one. Anyway, but all these cool things where when someone signs up for a virtual event, they get this box, and the box has them unlocked like, "Open this thing first, this thing second, this thing third." Takes them through this whole journey, but that's what Sarah talked about, which was amazing. And then, after that, then Eileen Wilder spoke about high ticket sales, and her presentation was really fun for me because she quoted a lot of the old time personal development people who I'm studying right now, and so it was fun for me because I was like, "I'm reading about these people right now." And she's quoting them, and she's talking about them, and her presentation was awesome. That got my wife all fired up. Collette was like, "Eileen got me on fire. I got so excited about everything." And so hers was awesome. And the whole morning, it was just power-packed, and fun, and exciting, and everybody ran over on time, so there was all the stress for me and everyone on our team, but man, it turned out awesome. That morning was great. So after that, then we went and we broke to lunch. Now a couple of things we did, is we broke to lunch, and we had a special lunch for anybody who'd won a Two Comma Club award in the past. And that was for a couple of reasons, number one, to give them a free lunch, but then also, some of you guys know that I've recently reopened my inner circle, and one of the qualifications to be in the inner circle is to have won a Two Comma Club award. So we had all the Two Comma Club winners at lunch, and then we told them about the inner circle and invited them to join if they wanted to, and we end up signing up a lot of people into the new inner circle, which was awesome. It was really a soft pitch, I just said, "This is what it is, if you're interested, go sign up, and then go back and have some lunch." And so it wasn't a hard pitch, it was just letting them know there's an opportunity and that's what's happening. So we had lunch, after lunch we got back, and I was excited because over the last year... So I become really good friends with a dude named Nick. I'm going to probably mispronounce the last name. He's got the hardest last name ever, so I apologize in advance Nick, if I mess up, but Nick Santonastasso. Oh, man. Anyway, if you guys know Nick, he was born with one arm and no legs. Two arms, one arm was really small though, and the other one has got one finger on it, stuff like that. I connect to him a while ago, and he was the wrestler too, which was really fun. In fact, he came to my house and I wrestled him, and we got video of us wrestling, but just someone who's such a cool dude, I just love him. And he gave a presentation called Play The Hand That You're Dealt With, and showing people that like, "Man, life is tough. You've got a lot of hard things." But he's like, "Look at the hand I was dealt yet." Yeah, because even with this stuff he's become a bodybuilder, and he's become a coach, and he's become a speaker, and all these amazing things. He was a wrestler. Just because he was born with something that would have made life harder, he has a strong mind, and he was able to do such amazing things. So it was awesome, Nick there speaking. And then when Nick got done, it was time for me to do my presentation, to let people know about our coaching program. And every year this is hard for me, because those who had studied my stuff, they know how I sell, and so I tend to start selling, they're like, "Oh, here it comes, Russell is trying to sell something." And so this presentation was a little different than a traditional perfect webinar. The elements were all there, but it was wrapped differently. But this was one where I was actually talking about personal development, which is something I haven't talked a lot about, but I've been geeking out recently. I'm working on a book, and so I just have a lot of stuff top of mind right now. Yes, I do that presentation about that kind of stuff, and then after the presentation was towards the end, then we talked to people about success inside of our coaching program. Every year we redesign Two Comma Club X. We make it a little different, we get feedback and make tweaks and changes. And one of the biggest things that we're noticing now is that half our audience are people who want to be experts, and half our audience are people who are selling physical products. And our coaching is always steered more so towards people who are experts, because that's what I'm better at, right? And so this year we decided to partner with Alison Prince, who is someone who I just have so much love and respect for, and we decided to break it down into two tracks. There's one track that's the e-comm track, and one track that's the expert track, and people will get to pick which one they want. And Alison also helped us line up momentum coaches, and a whole bunch of other amazing things, and just really tweak the program in a powerful, powerful way. And when I did the presentation, I got to bring Alison out to talk about it as well. And people hadn't met Alison yet, so it was a weird thing to figure out how to do the presentation, to get people weaved in to get to know her in a short period of time. And then, also from there do our pitch, a new coaching program. And so what's cool with Alison, she, I don't know, she made 40 or $50 million on physical products, it's crazy. But when I met her, she was trying to learn how to become an expert. And so it's fun because I was able to tell her story about... Or excuse me, I told the story, but she told it as well, like, "I wanted to learn how to be an expert, and so I came to Russell, and he taught me these things, we did the webinar together, and boom, and I built this whole thing where Alison's won two Comma Club Awards, two Comma Club X, and this year she won two Heart Awards , which means they gave over a million dollars to charity. And she was like, "I was able to do that because of the expert business that Russel taught me. And then we were able to flip the tables and be like, "Now, Alison sends out physical product stuff. In fact, two weeks ago, I decided I wanted to see how well her stuff worked to see how much we could do, so we followed her process and put together an e-comm product, and we launched it, and we ended up doing, I think it was 15 or 16 grand in two weeks off of just following Alison's process. And I'm like, "This stuff actually works, this is so cool." And so we had both those case studies and like, "These are the two paths. Who here wants to be experts who wants to be e-comm?" It was a 50/50 split. I'm like, "Okay. Cool thing is that you can pick whatever you want in the program." And then from there we sold the Two Comma Club X Coaching Program. And then after people signed up, Todd and I got pictures of all the buyers. So they have a picture of me and them and Todd up on stage they can look at as they're trying to work towards winning Two Comma Club award. And so that went really, really well. Sales crushed it, Alison is so good. And after dinner, then we had Alison come back and do a whole hour long workshop, teaching her process and how it works, and showing all the things. And so she did her presentation after dinner, which was really, really cool. And then we soft pitched TCCC again before we went to bed that night. That's what happened at day number two, and so it was amazing. We got to go through the entire value ladder doing funnels. We had a chance to hear Nick just motivate the heck out of you, and you get excited about what's possible. And then I got to do my personal development stuff, and then Alison, and Alison got to come in and talk about physical products. So that was the end of day number three, and at day number four, and I'm just going to go directly to day four, because three and four weave together. Day number four is where I came out in the morning, I did a presentation called Bootstrapped, which is how we built our business, we bootstrapped it. And I actually announced a new award called the Bootstrapped Entrepreneur of the Year Award. I talked about that, and then my twins were here at Funnel Hacking Live this year. So I brought them on stage, helped me show the new awards, which are insanely cool. And I did a presentation showing how we bootstrapped ClickFunnels, and ups and the downs, and told that story. And then we did what's called the re-pitch, which is basically like, "This is the last time, it's time for the coaching program, go and do it now." And we took a break, and people signed up, and that was the end of the selling part of Funnel Hacking Live. And then from there on out, it's usually for me, I get to relax and just enjoy the rest of the day, which is awesome. And so the next presentation after the break was Garrett J White. and those who know Garrett, Garrett spoke at every Funnel Hacking Live in the past. He's usually, traditionally, the one I have to go and warn everybody that he's going to curse a lot, and if they need to, they can leave. And every year I get people who complain because of Garrett, but I also get people who tell me it's the thing that changed life the most. And so I didn't know what to expect with Garrett, as I don't normally know. And this year he came out all in white with a choir, and it was an interesting presentation. He's recently found Christ, which is amazing. And so he came and he did his presentation, where weaving business principles in with God and with Christ, and they had choirs singing, and it was powerful. But at the same time I had people who were offended about that. And anyway, I don't know, I love Garrett, he gets people to move. It doesn't matter which side, him dropping the F-bomb from stage, him talking about God from stage, either way I get complaints. But at the same time, people don't complain, all are just like, "That was the most amazing thing ever." Anyway, so it's always this weird thing. Not a weird thing, it's always an amazing thing, but it's always just this tension for me of just like, "What's going to happen? What's he going to say? How's he going to say it?" Anyway, that was Garrett. And then from there, we broke to lunch, and we had a big welcome lunch for everyone who was a Two Comma Club Member who signed up, which was really, really cool. And then, after lunch we had Tim Ballard who flew out, which was cool, and so we had him to come and say hi to everybody and talk about the Save a Child Challenge that we launched on day number one, and how much money we had raised, and Tim thanked everybody, which was really cool. I hadn't seen him in a while, it was a really good seeing Tim, and him and his team are just... They're amazing, all the things that they're doing. And there's a whole bunch of people talking negative about them online, there's things that are not true. People have asked me, "Is this true? Is this true?" I'm like, "No, this is not true. These people are lying. They're horrible people who literally are trying to get in the way of saving children." It's the most demonic, evil thing in the world, but Tim and his people have such good hearts. They're there saving people from Afghanistan. Tim's running the Nazarene Fund for Glen Beck, which is saving thousands of kids, and plus he's running the whole O.U.R thing, and it's heavy. And you could feel the weight on his back and his shoulders, carrying this mantle. And anyway, I was grateful to be able to have him there, and hopefully give him a little rest, and show him that people love him, and they're grateful for the work he's doing. So that was cool. And then after that, then Tony came and spoke. And Tony, every year, we never really know how long he's going to talk for. Anyway, this year our contract was three hours, but I think it's the first time Tony's been on stage in front of a whole huge group of people as well, and so he went and he did his presentation for three hours, and then he kept talking, and had it going for six hours on stage, which was crazy and super awesome. So we had Tony talk for six hours. Yeah, he's kept going and going, and he just loved it. He asked me, "What time do you think I need to stop?" Like, "Dude, just keep going. People are here, they're happy, don't stop." So Tony went on for six hours, which was awesome." And then when he got done, we got on stage Todd and I, and wrapped the event up, and that was it. And that was Funnel Hacking Live 2021. And every year we're putting things together, it's just like an insurmountable task like, "How do we sell the tickets? How do we get people to show up?" And this year is even bigger because of COVID, and the restrictions, and the problems, and just all the things that come with that. But man, after going through the whole process and I see how many people's lives were changed, people that have their big aha's, the big things they were hoping for, people who were stuck, who got unstuck, people who were able to go to the next step with us to the higher coaching, people who are so excited about ClickFunnels 2.0. Just all the things, and then getting all of our funnel hackers together, and having people together to... The whole thing, it was amazing and magical, and I'm grateful for all of you guys who came and participated. If you didn't come this year, make sure to be here next year. Next year, hopefully, there'll be less chaos in the world. There may be more, I don't know, but regardless, the party's happening, it's going to be in Orlando. And hopefully you can be there. So you can get your tickets at funnelhackinglive.com. But that's some of the behind the scenes. Hopefully helps you guys to see some of the detail people talked about, but even more so, how we structure these things for a maximum sales, maximum impact, all those things. So hope it helps. I appreciate you all, thanks for listening, and we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live 2021 - Day #3 And #4 Recap full 459 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is the exciting wrap up of the final two days of this year’s Funnel Hacking Live event! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to... Here is the exciting wrap up of the final two days of this year’s Funnel Hacking Live event! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, I'm going to break down day number three and day number four of Funnel Hacking Live for you. All right, so day three is where we start transitioning into... For me, if I go in very funnel specific, I like taking people through on this day, the bottom of the value ladder, moving up, and just showing a lot of different ways to build funnels, because there's so many different ways to do it. You can have book funnels, and challenge funnels, and webinar funnels, and high ticket funnels, and a million other things in between, summit funnels. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, and so on day three I started going into this. And the very first person that we had speak in the morning was Kiana Danial, and she's someone who has been on every news channel a million times, Fox news, CNBC, all the business stuff, talking about investing and things like that. And she thought that was going to make her a bunch of money, but it didn't. And she ended up joining our Two Comma Club Coaching Program a couple of years ago, and we got her focusing on driving all that traffic to a funnel, and in no time she became a Two Comma Club winner. And so it was cool having her tell that story, just showing all these things that she thought meant it was going to be money like, "I thought I'd be on TV on all these shows all the time. I thought these things were going to be the things that made me money, but it wasn't. It wasn't until I actually had a funnel, I had a way to convert people into customer, that I started making money. And so it was really cool hearing her presentation. And then after that, we started moving up the value ladder. So next was Pedro Adao, and Pedro has become infamous for challenge funnels, not like challenge funnels like The One Funnel Away, which is a paid challenge funnel, but doing free challenge funnels. And Pedro talked about that, and he was awesome, he was on fire people went crazy. This is actually important, the one reason I had Pedro in here is because inside the new Two Comma Club Coaching Program, if somebody chooses the expert route, the first eight weeks we focus on them all doing a challenge, and so it's fun for them, they'll see through Pedro what these challenge funnels look like. And then later in the pitch, we would come back and say, "Oh, that thing that Pedro did, we're going to be doing that." And Pedro is going to be one of the coaches helping on that, which is really cool. So Pedro talked about free challenge funnels. After he was done, then Peng Joon, he’s one of my favorite speakers, but he was stuck in Malaysia. We almost didn't know if he was going to come, he's like... Anyway, it was a big deal to get him here, and luckily he made it to the States. And what was cool is he showed how you can basically take a 30 minute presentation and turn a 30 minute presentation into an entire business, and he showed how he did it. With last time we spoke at Funnel Hacking Live, he took his presentation, he made it a book, and from there he had an upsell of the audio book, and the episode, the done for you version, and the done with you version, and he showed the whole process, how you can take one 30 minute presentation and turn it into entire business, and lead with the book funnel, and that was really cool to see that. I think it's something that most people could do pretty simply and pretty easily. After Peng Joon, then we started moving up the value ladder a little higher to Lauren Golden, and Lauren, she's built her empire, and she won multiple Two Comma Club awards, primarily through webinar funnels. So she talked about webinar funnels, showed her process there, and then she talked about other bunch of the cool things that she was really excited talking about as well, but it was the next phase of the value ladder, is like, "Hey, here's a webinar funnel." After Lauren was done, then Sarah Petty had been doing live event funnels and crushing it, and doing huge volume. The market she serves are photographers. A lot of times people think, "Well, there's not much money in photography. Photographers aren't going to pay for high ticket things." But Sarah does these virtual live events and gets photographers on them, and then from there sells a really expensive high-end coaching, and they're killing with it. And it's just really cool to see cause they do a lot of just things that I don't think through. I don't know if it's like feminine masculine, or maybe she's just more creative than me, probably that one. Anyway, but all these cool things where when someone signs up for a virtual event, they get this box, and the box has them unlocked like, "Open this thing first, this thing second, this thing third." Takes them through this whole journey, but that's what Sarah talked about, which was amazing. And then, after that, then Eileen Wilder spoke about high ticket sales, and her presentation was really fun for me because she quoted a lot of the old time personal development people who I'm studying right now, and so it was fun for me because I was like, "I'm reading about these people right now." And she's quoting them, and she's talking about them, and her presentation was awesome. That got my wife all fired up. Collette was like, "Eileen got me on fire. I got so excited about everything." And so hers was awesome. And the whole morning, it was just power-packed, and fun, and exciting, and everybody ran over on time, so there was all the stress for me and everyone on our team, but man, it turned out awesome. That morning was great. So after that, then we went and we broke to lunch. Now a couple of things we did, is we broke to lunch, and we had a special lunch for anybody who'd won a Two Comma Club award in the past. And that was for a couple of reasons, number one, to give them a free lunch, but then also, some of you guys know that I've recently reopened my inner circle, and one of the qualifications to be in the inner circle is to have won a Two Comma Club award. So we had all the Two Comma Club winners at lunch, and then we told them about the inner circle and invited them to join if they wanted to, and we end up signing up a lot of people into the new inner circle, which was awesome. It was really a soft pitch, I just said, "This is what it is, if you're interested, go sign up, and then go back and have some lunch." And so it wasn't a hard pitch, it was just letting them know there's an opportunity and that's what's happening. So we had lunch, after lunch we got back, and I was excited because over the last year... So I become really good friends with a dude named Nick. I'm going to probably mispronounce the last name. He's got the hardest last name ever, so I apologize in advance Nick, if I mess up, but Nick Santonastasso. Oh, man. Anyway, if you guys know Nick, he was born with one arm and no legs. Two arms, one arm was really small though, and the other one has got one finger on it, stuff like that. I connect to him a while ago, and he was the wrestler too, which was really fun. In fact, he came to my house and I wrestled him, and we got video of us wrestling, but just someone who's such a cool dude, I just love him. And he gave a presentation called Play The Hand That You're Dealt With, and showing people that like, "Man, life is tough. You've got a lot of hard things." But he's like, "Look at the hand I was dealt yet." Yeah, because even with this stuff he's become a bodybuilder, and he's become a coach, and he's become a speaker, and all these amazing things. He was a wrestler. Just because he was born with something that would have made life harder, he has a strong mind, and he was able to do such amazing things. So it was awesome, Nick there speaking. And then when Nick got done, it was time for me to do my presentation, to let people know about our coaching program. And every year this is hard for me, because those who had studied my stuff, they know how I sell, and so I tend to start selling, they're like, "Oh, here it comes, Russell is trying to sell something." And so this presentation was a little different than a traditional perfect webinar. The elements were all there, but it was wrapped differently. But this was one where I was actually talking about personal development, which is something I haven't talked a lot about, but I've been geeking out recently. I'm working on a book, and so I just have a lot of stuff top of mind right now. Yes, I do that presentation about that kind of stuff, and then after the presentation was towards the end, then we talked to people about success inside of our coaching program. Every year we redesign Two Comma Club X. We make it a little different, we get feedback and make tweaks and changes. And one of the biggest things that we're noticing now is that half our audience are people who want to be experts, and half our audience are people who are selling physical products. And our coaching is always steered more so towards people who are experts, because that's what I'm better at, right? And so this year we decided to partner with Alison Prince, who is someone who I just have so much love and respect for, and we decided to break it down into two tracks. There's one track that's the e-comm track, and one track that's the expert track, and people will get to pick which one they want. And Alison also helped us line up momentum coaches, and a whole bunch of other amazing things, and just really tweak the program in a powerful, powerful way. And when I did the presentation, I got to bring Alison out to talk about it as well. And people hadn't met Alison yet, so it was a weird thing to figure out how to do the presentation, to get people weaved in to get to know her in a short period of time. And then, also from there do our pitch, a new coaching program. And so what's cool with Alison, she, I don't know, she made 40 or $50 million on physical products, it's crazy. But when I met her, she was trying to learn how to become an expert. And so it's fun because I was able to tell her story about... Or excuse me, I told the story, but she told it as well, like, "I wanted to learn how to be an expert, and so I came to Russell, and he taught me these things, we did the webinar together, and boom, and I built this whole thing where Alison's won two Comma Club Awards, two Comma Club X, and this year she won two Heart Awards , which means they gave over a million dollars to charity. And she was like, "I was able to do that because of the expert business that Russel taught me. And then we were able to flip the tables and be like, "Now, Alison sends out physical product stuff. In fact, two weeks ago, I decided I wanted to see how well her stuff worked to see how much we could do, so we followed her process and put together an e-comm product, and we launched it, and we ended up doing, I think it was 15 or 16 grand in two weeks off of just following Alison's process. And I'm like, "This stuff actually works, this is so cool." And so we had both those case studies and like, "These are the two paths. Who here wants to be experts who wants to be e-comm?" It was a 50/50 split. I'm like, "Okay. Cool thing is that you can pick whatever you want in the program." And then from there we sold the Two Comma Club X Coaching Program. And then after people signed up, Todd and I got pictures of all the buyers. So they have a picture of me and them and Todd up on stage they can look at as they're trying to work towards winning Two Comma Club award. And so that went really, really well. Sales crushed it, Alison is so good. And after dinner, then we had Alison come back and do a whole hour long workshop, teaching her process and how it works, and showing all the things. And so she did her presentation after dinner, which was really, really cool. And then we soft pitched TCCC again before we went to bed that night. That's what happened at day number two, and so it was amazing. We got to go through the entire value ladder doing funnels. We had a chance to hear Nick just motivate the heck out of you, and you get excited about what's possible. And then I got to do my personal development stuff, and then Alison, and Alison got to come in and talk about physical products. So that was the end of day number three, and at day number four, and I'm just going to go directly to day four, because three and four weave together. Day number four is where I came out in the morning, I did a presentation called Bootstrapped, which is how we built our business, we bootstrapped it. And I actually announced a new award called the Bootstrapped Entrepreneur of the Year Award. I talked about that, and then my twins were here at Funnel Hacking Live this year. So I brought them on stage, helped me show the new awards, which are insanely cool. And I did a presentation showing how we bootstrapped ClickFunnels, and ups and the downs, and told that story. And then we did what's called the re-pitch, which is basically like, "This is the last time, it's time for the coaching program, go and do it now." And we took a break, and people signed up, and that was the end of the selling part of Funnel Hacking Live. And then from there on out, it's usually for me, I get to relax and just enjoy the rest of the day, which is awesome. And so the next presentation after the break was Garrett J White. and those who know Garrett, Garrett spoke at every Funnel Hacking Live in the past. He's usually, traditionally, the one I have to go and warn everybody that he's going to curse a lot, and if they need to, they can leave. And every year I get people who complain because of Garrett, but I also get people who tell me it's the thing that changed life the most. And so I didn't know what to expect with Garrett, as I don't normally know. And this year he came out all in white with a choir, and it was an interesting presentation. He's recently found Christ, which is amazing. And so he came and he did his presentation, where weaving business principles in with God and with Christ, and they had choirs singing, and it was powerful. But at the same time I had people who were offended about that. And anyway, I don't know, I love Garrett, he gets people to move. It doesn't matter which side, him dropping the F-bomb from stage, him talking about God from stage, either way I get complaints. But at the same time, people don't complain, all are just like, "That was the most amazing thing ever." Anyway, so it's always this weird thing. Not a weird thing, it's always an amazing thing, but it's always just this tension for me of just like, "What's going to happen? What's he going to say? How's he going to say it?" Anyway, that was Garrett. And then from there, we broke to lunch, and we had a big welcome lunch for everyone who was a Two Comma Club Member who signed up, which was really, really cool. And then, after lunch we had Tim Ballard who flew out, which was cool, and so we had him to come and say hi to everybody and talk about the Save a Child Challenge that we launched on day number one, and how much money we had raised, and Tim thanked everybody, which was really cool. I hadn't seen him in a while, it was a really good seeing Tim, and him and his team are just... They're amazing, all the things that they're doing. And there's a whole bunch of people talking negative about them online, there's things that are not true. People have asked me, "Is this true? Is this true?" I'm like, "No, this is not true. These people are lying. They're horrible people who literally are trying to get in the way of saving children." It's the most demonic, evil thing in the world, but Tim and his people have such good hearts. They're there saving people from Afghanistan. Tim's running the Nazarene Fund for Glen Beck, which is saving thousands of kids, and plus he's running the whole O.U.R thing, and it's heavy. And you could feel the weight on his back and his shoulders, carrying this mantle. And anyway, I was grateful to be able to have him there, and hopefully give him a little rest, and show him that people love him, and they're grateful for the work he's doing. So that was cool. And then after that, then Tony came and spoke. And Tony, every year, we never really know how long he's going to talk for. Anyway, this year our contract was three hours, but I think it's the first time Tony's been on stage in front of a whole huge group of people as well, and so he went and he did his presentation for three hours, and then he kept talking, and had it going for six hours on stage, which was crazy and super awesome. So we had Tony talk for six hours. Yeah, he's kept going and going, and he just loved it. He asked me, "What time do you think I need to stop?" Like, "Dude, just keep going. People are here, they're happy, don't stop." So Tony went on for six hours, which was awesome." And then when he got done, we got on stage Todd and I, and wrapped the event up, and that was it. And that was Funnel Hacking Live 2021. And every year we're putting things together, it's just like an insurmountable task like, "How do we sell the tickets? How do we get people to show up?" And this year is even bigger because of COVID, and the restrictions, and the problems, and just all the things that come with that. But man, after going through the whole process and I see how many people's lives were changed, people that have their big aha's, the big things they were hoping for, people who were stuck, who got unstuck, people who were able to go to the next step with us to the higher coaching, people who are so excited about ClickFunnels 2.0. Just all the things, and then getting all of our funnel hackers together, and having people together to... The whole thing, it was amazing and magical, and I'm grateful for all of you guys who came and participated. If you didn't come this year, make sure to be here next year. Next year, hopefully, there'll be less chaos in the world. There may be more, I don't know, but regardless, the party's happening, it's going to be in Orlando. And hopefully you can be there. So you can get your tickets at funnelhackinglive.com. But that's some of the behind the scenes. Hopefully helps you guys to see some of the detail people talked about, but even more so, how we structure these things for a maximum sales, maximum impact, all those things. So hope it helps. I appreciate you all, thanks for listening, and we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is the exciting wrap up of the final two days of this year’s Funnel Hacking Live event!

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What's up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, I'm going to break down day number three and day number four of Funnel Hacking Live for you. All right, so day three is where we start transitioning into... For me, if I go in very funnel specific, I like taking people through on this day, the bottom of the value ladder, moving up, and just showing a lot of different ways to build funnels, because there's so many different ways to do it. You can have book funnels, and challenge funnels, and webinar funnels, and high ticket funnels, and a million other things in between, summit funnels. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, and so on day three I started going into this.

And the very first person that we had speak in the morning was Kiana Danial, and she's someone who has been on every news channel a million times, Fox news, CNBC, all the business stuff, talking about investing and things like that. And she thought that was going to make her a bunch of money, but it didn't. And she ended up joining our Two Comma Club Coaching Program a couple of years ago, and we got her focusing on driving all that traffic to a funnel, and in no time she became a Two Comma Club winner. And so it was cool having her tell that story, just showing all these things that she thought meant it was going to be money like, "I thought I'd be on TV on all these shows all the time. I thought these things were going to be the things that made me money, but it wasn't. It wasn't until I actually had a funnel, I had a way to convert people into customer, that I started making money. And so it was really cool hearing her presentation.

And then after that, we started moving up the value ladder. So next was Pedro Adao, and Pedro has become infamous for challenge funnels, not like challenge funnels like The One Funnel Away, which is a paid challenge funnel, but doing free challenge funnels. And Pedro talked about that, and he was awesome, he was on fire people went crazy. This is actually important, the one reason I had Pedro in here is because inside the new Two Comma Club Coaching Program, if somebody chooses the expert route, the first eight weeks we focus on them all doing a challenge, and so it's fun for them, they'll see through Pedro what these challenge funnels look like. And then later in the pitch, we would come back and say, "Oh, that thing that Pedro did, we're going to be doing that." And Pedro is going to be one of the coaches helping on that, which is really cool.

So Pedro talked about free challenge funnels. After he was done, then Peng Joon, he’s one of my favorite speakers, but he was stuck in Malaysia. We almost didn't know if he was going to come, he's like... Anyway, it was a big deal to get him here, and luckily he made it to the States. And what was cool is he showed how you can basically take a 30 minute presentation and turn a 30 minute presentation into an entire business, and he showed how he did it. With last time we spoke at Funnel Hacking Live, he took his presentation, he made it a book, and from there he had an upsell of the audio book, and the episode, the done for you version, and the done with you version, and he showed the whole process, how you can take one 30 minute presentation and turn it into entire business, and lead with the book funnel, and that was really cool to see that. I think it's something that most people could do pretty simply and pretty easily.

After Peng Joon, then we started moving up the value ladder a little higher to Lauren Golden, and Lauren, she's built her empire, and she won multiple Two Comma Club awards, primarily through webinar funnels. So she talked about webinar funnels, showed her process there, and then she talked about other bunch of the cool things that she was really excited talking about as well, but it was the next phase of the value ladder, is like, "Hey, here's a webinar funnel." After Lauren was done, then Sarah Petty had been doing live event funnels and crushing it, and doing huge volume. The market she serves are photographers. A lot of times people think, "Well, there's not much money in photography. Photographers aren't going to pay for high ticket things." But Sarah does these virtual live events and gets photographers on them, and then from there sells a really expensive high-end coaching, and they're killing with it.

And it's just really cool to see cause they do a lot of just things that I don't think through. I don't know if it's like feminine masculine, or maybe she's just more creative than me, probably that one. Anyway, but all these cool things where when someone signs up for a virtual event, they get this box, and the box has them unlocked like, "Open this thing first, this thing second, this thing third." Takes them through this whole journey, but that's what Sarah talked about, which was amazing. And then, after that, then Eileen Wilder spoke about high ticket sales, and her presentation was really fun for me because she quoted a lot of the old time personal development people who I'm studying right now, and so it was fun for me because I was like, "I'm reading about these people right now." And she's quoting them, and she's talking about them, and her presentation was awesome. That got my wife all fired up. Collette was like, "Eileen got me on fire. I got so excited about everything." And so hers was awesome.

And the whole morning, it was just power-packed, and fun, and exciting, and everybody ran over on time, so there was all the stress for me and everyone on our team, but man, it turned out awesome. That morning was great. So after that, then we went and we broke to lunch. Now a couple of things we did, is we broke to lunch, and we had a special lunch for anybody who'd won a Two Comma Club award in the past. And that was for a couple of reasons, number one, to give them a free lunch, but then also, some of you guys know that I've recently reopened my inner circle, and one of the qualifications to be in the inner circle is to have won a Two Comma Club award. So we had all the Two Comma Club winners at lunch, and then we told them about the inner circle and invited them to join if they wanted to, and we end up signing up a lot of people into the new inner circle, which was awesome.

It was really a soft pitch, I just said, "This is what it is, if you're interested, go sign up, and then go back and have some lunch." And so it wasn't a hard pitch, it was just letting them know there's an opportunity and that's what's happening. So we had lunch, after lunch we got back, and I was excited because over the last year... So I become really good friends with a dude named Nick. I'm going to probably mispronounce the last name. He's got the hardest last name ever, so I apologize in advance Nick, if I mess up, but Nick Santonastasso. Oh, man. Anyway, if you guys know Nick, he was born with one arm and no legs. Two arms, one arm was really small though, and the other one has got one finger on it, stuff like that. I connect to him a while ago, and he was the wrestler too, which was really fun.

In fact, he came to my house and I wrestled him, and we got video of us wrestling, but just someone who's such a cool dude, I just love him. And he gave a presentation called Play The Hand That You're Dealt With, and showing people that like, "Man, life is tough. You've got a lot of hard things." But he's like, "Look at the hand I was dealt yet." Yeah, because even with this stuff he's become a bodybuilder, and he's become a coach, and he's become a speaker, and all these amazing things. He was a wrestler. Just because he was born with something that would have made life harder, he has a strong mind, and he was able to do such amazing things. So it was awesome, Nick there speaking.

And then when Nick got done, it was time for me to do my presentation, to let people know about our coaching program. And every year this is hard for me, because those who had studied my stuff, they know how I sell, and so I tend to start selling, they're like, "Oh, here it comes, Russell is trying to sell something." And so this presentation was a little different than a traditional perfect webinar. The elements were all there, but it was wrapped differently. But this was one where I was actually talking about personal development, which is something I haven't talked a lot about, but I've been geeking out recently. I'm working on a book, and so I just have a lot of stuff top of mind right now. Yes, I do that presentation about that kind of stuff, and then after the presentation was towards the end, then we talked to people about success inside of our coaching program.

Every year we redesign Two Comma Club X. We make it a little different, we get feedback and make tweaks and changes. And one of the biggest things that we're noticing now is that half our audience are people who want to be experts, and half our audience are people who are selling physical products. And our coaching is always steered more so towards people who are experts, because that's what I'm better at, right? And so this year we decided to partner with Alison Prince, who is someone who I just have so much love and respect for, and we decided to break it down into two tracks. There's one track that's the e-comm track, and one track that's the expert track, and people will get to pick which one they want. And Alison also helped us line up momentum coaches, and a whole bunch of other amazing things, and just really tweak the program in a powerful, powerful way.

And when I did the presentation, I got to bring Alison out to talk about it as well. And people hadn't met Alison yet, so it was a weird thing to figure out how to do the presentation, to get people weaved in to get to know her in a short period of time. And then, also from there do our pitch, a new coaching program. And so what's cool with Alison, she, I don't know, she made 40 or $50 million on physical products, it's crazy. But when I met her, she was trying to learn how to become an expert. And so it's fun because I was able to tell her story about... Or excuse me, I told the story, but she told it as well, like, "I wanted to learn how to be an expert, and so I came to Russell, and he taught me these things, we did the webinar together, and boom, and I built this whole thing where Alison's won two Comma Club Awards, two Comma Club X, and this year she won two Heart Awards , which means they gave over a million dollars to charity. And she was like, "I was able to do that because of the expert business that Russel taught me.

And then we were able to flip the tables and be like, "Now, Alison sends out physical product stuff. In fact, two weeks ago, I decided I wanted to see how well her stuff worked to see how much we could do, so we followed her process and put together an e-comm product, and we launched it, and we ended up doing, I think it was 15 or 16 grand in two weeks off of just following Alison's process. And I'm like, "This stuff actually works, this is so cool." And so we had both those case studies and like, "These are the two paths. Who here wants to be experts who wants to be e-comm?" It was a 50/50 split. I'm like, "Okay. Cool thing is that you can pick whatever you want in the program." And then from there we sold the Two Comma Club X Coaching Program. And then after people signed up, Todd and I got pictures of all the buyers. So they have a picture of me and them and Todd up on stage they can look at as they're trying to work towards winning Two Comma Club award. And so that went really, really well. Sales crushed it, Alison is so good.

And after dinner, then we had Alison come back and do a whole hour long workshop, teaching her process and how it works, and showing all the things. And so she did her presentation after dinner, which was really, really cool. And then we soft pitched TCCC again before we went to bed that night. That's what happened at day number two, and so it was amazing. We got to go through the entire value ladder doing funnels. We had a chance to hear Nick just motivate the heck out of you, and you get excited about what's possible. And then I got to do my personal development stuff, and then Alison, and Alison got to come in and talk about physical products. So that was the end of day number three, and at day number four, and I'm just going to go directly to day four, because three and four weave together.

Day number four is where I came out in the morning, I did a presentation called Bootstrapped, which is how we built our business, we bootstrapped it. And I actually announced a new award called the Bootstrapped Entrepreneur of the Year Award. I talked about that, and then my twins were here at Funnel Hacking Live this year. So I brought them on stage, helped me show the new awards, which are insanely cool. And I did a presentation showing how we bootstrapped ClickFunnels, and ups and the downs, and told that story. And then we did what's called the re-pitch, which is basically like, "This is the last time, it's time for the coaching program, go and do it now." And we took a break, and people signed up, and that was the end of the selling part of Funnel Hacking Live. And then from there on out, it's usually for me, I get to relax and just enjoy the rest of the day, which is awesome.

And so the next presentation after the break was Garrett J White. and those who know Garrett, Garrett spoke at every Funnel Hacking Live in the past. He's usually, traditionally, the one I have to go and warn everybody that he's going to curse a lot, and if they need to, they can leave. And every year I get people who complain because of Garrett, but I also get people who tell me it's the thing that changed life the most. And so I didn't know what to expect with Garrett, as I don't normally know. And this year he came out all in white with a choir, and it was an interesting presentation. He's recently found Christ, which is amazing. And so he came and he did his presentation, where weaving business principles in with God and with Christ, and they had choirs singing, and it was powerful.

But at the same time I had people who were offended about that. And anyway, I don't know, I love Garrett, he gets people to move. It doesn't matter which side, him dropping the F-bomb from stage, him talking about God from stage, either way I get complaints. But at the same time, people don't complain, all are just like, "That was the most amazing thing ever." Anyway, so it's always this weird thing. Not a weird thing, it's always an amazing thing, but it's always just this tension for me of just like, "What's going to happen? What's he going to say? How's he going to say it?" Anyway, that was Garrett. And then from there, we broke to lunch, and we had a big welcome lunch for everyone who was a Two Comma Club Member who signed up, which was really, really cool.

And then, after lunch we had Tim Ballard who flew out, which was cool, and so we had him to come and say hi to everybody and talk about the Save a Child Challenge that we launched on day number one, and how much money we had raised, and Tim thanked everybody, which was really cool. I hadn't seen him in a while, it was a really good seeing Tim, and him and his team are just... They're amazing, all the things that they're doing. And there's a whole bunch of people talking negative about them online, there's things that are not true. People have asked me, "Is this true? Is this true?" I'm like, "No, this is not true. These people are lying. They're horrible people who literally are trying to get in the way of saving children." It's the most demonic, evil thing in the world, but Tim and his people have such good hearts. They're there saving people from Afghanistan. Tim's running the Nazarene Fund for Glen Beck, which is saving thousands of kids, and plus he's running the whole O.U.R thing, and it's heavy. And you could feel the weight on his back and his shoulders, carrying this mantle. And anyway, I was grateful to be able to have him there, and hopefully give him a little rest, and show him that people love him, and they're grateful for the work he's doing. So that was cool.

And then after that, then Tony came and spoke. And Tony, every year, we never really know how long he's going to talk for. Anyway, this year our contract was three hours, but I think it's the first time Tony's been on stage in front of a whole huge group of people as well, and so he went and he did his presentation for three hours, and then he kept talking, and had it going for six hours on stage, which was crazy and super awesome. So we had Tony talk for six hours. Yeah, he's kept going and going, and he just loved it. He asked me, "What time do you think I need to stop?" Like, "Dude, just keep going. People are here, they're happy, don't stop." So Tony went on for six hours, which was awesome." And then when he got done, we got on stage Todd and I, and wrapped the event up, and that was it.

And that was Funnel Hacking Live 2021. And every year we're putting things together, it's just like an insurmountable task like, "How do we sell the tickets? How do we get people to show up?" And this year is even bigger because of COVID, and the restrictions, and the problems, and just all the things that come with that. But man, after going through the whole process and I see how many people's lives were changed, people that have their big aha's, the big things they were hoping for, people who were stuck, who got unstuck, people who were able to go to the next step with us to the higher coaching, people who are so excited about ClickFunnels 2.0. Just all the things, and then getting all of our funnel hackers together, and having people together to... The whole thing, it was amazing and magical, and I'm grateful for all of you guys who came and participated.

If you didn't come this year, make sure to be here next year. Next year, hopefully, there'll be less chaos in the world. There may be more, I don't know, but regardless, the party's happening, it's going to be in Orlando. And hopefully you can be there. So you can get your tickets at funnelhackinglive.com. But that's some of the behind the scenes. Hopefully helps you guys to see some of the detail people talked about, but even more so, how we structure these things for a maximum sales, maximum impact, all those things. So hope it helps. I appreciate you all, thanks for listening, and we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 1149 no Funnel Hacking Live 2021 - Day #2 Recap https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-2021-day-2-recap Today, Russell has fun explaining everything that went on behind the scenes of day two at this year's Funnel Hacking Live event! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live 2021 - Day #2 Recap full 458 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today, Russell has fun explaining everything that went on behind the scenes of day two at this year's Funnel Hacking Live event! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up... Today, Russell has fun explaining everything that went on behind the scenes of day two at this year's Funnel Hacking Live event! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today, Russell has fun explaining everything that went on behind the scenes of day two at this year's Funnel Hacking Live event!

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]]> 888 no Funnel Hacking Live 2021 - Day #1 Recap https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-2021-day-1-recap Russell goes on a deep dive, explaining all the fun things that went on behind the scenes of the first day of this year's Funnel Hacking Live event! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. It's been a little while since I've talked to you personally. That's not completely true. You guys have been listening to some of the Traffic Secrets episodes over the last few weeks, but right now I'm recording this episode about two weeks after Funnel Hacking Live 2021 is over. And I wanted to share some of the thoughts, some of the behind the scenes, some of the craziness and chaos that happened, and how we pulled off the biggest events since the coronavirus has hit inside of our industry. So with that said, I'll queue up the theme song. When I get back, we'll hang out and talk about the event. All right. So first off for those who came to Funnel Hacking Live that was so much fun. Thank you for coming, for participating, for playing all out. Folks who weren't able to come, but watched from home, thank you as well for participating. I hope you guys enjoyed it. It was really cool. This is our first year ever doing a hybrid where we were going to have people in person and at home. And honestly, I've never told anybody this, but about 30 days before Funnel Hacking Live actually happened, we had to make the decision if it was going to happen. And it's one of those weird meetings where it's like, "Do we do this? Or do we not?" Because COVID numbers are spiking and all sorts of like just the chaos and just all the things that were happening. And we had to basically put down a down payment on Hogwarts because yes, we rented Hogwarts for the inner circle and two comma club winners. And so that was like the drop dead. We have to write a check right now for, I don't know how much it was, quarter million dollars or whatever it was for Hogwarts. "Are we do this or not because there's no way to get this money back if we decide to not do Funnel Hacking Live," and I was like, "Wait, we may not be doing Funnel Hacking Live?" And they're like, "Well, this is the last shot to change it." I'm like, "Ah." So there's all the fear behind that. So finally, I was like, "All right, we're doing it. Put the money down. This is happening." As we got closer to the event, one of my kids got COVID at school and we're like, "Oh no," because I was like, "I don't really care. I'm not too nervous about getting COVID." Other than if I get COVID during the event, like that would be tragic, right? Like everyone's coming to hear me talk about funnels and stuff. And if I'm not there, I can't speak. Or are people can get on stage and get their pictures with me or all the different things. Give their awards on stage and it could have ruined the whole event for so many people who'd put it in life savings for some people to come and travel here and to be part of this thing. I got really, really nervous and so I started doing everything you can dream of to protect myself and my health. I was taking every pill and powder you can dream of. I had my natural path coming and doing I.V. drips throughout the day, so I'm working while I've got bags of stuff, hooked to all my veins and all the chaos to try to make sure that we could stay healthy for the event. We also normally fly commercial there, but I was like, "Anything I can do to minimize my exposure until the event happens the better." So we flew private out there and we got to FHL and we got their day earlier than I normally do, which was actually really nice. A chance to get to see everything and watch things get set up. You could tell there was something about year that was just different. The energy in the hallways. And you saw people was just, you could tell people missed being around each other and missed networking and all that kind of stuff. And so everything started building up towards that. And I remember the night before, so we did our big party at Hogwarts. We took the inner circle members and two comma cup winners and two comma club X-ers and all of our high-end coaching people to Hogwarts and we rented the whole thing out, which was crazy. So we got to be hanging out in Diagon Alley, and ride a Gringotts ride, and then get butter beer and just hang out and network. It was really a really cool special time for, I think everybody. But for me, I had to like leave a little early cause I was like, "I'm still not done with my slides," as Russell normally does. In fact, we brought our two twins. One of them was just like, "Dad, you're still not done with your slides" like this is crazy." I'm like, "I know I just- there's so many of them to do." Anyways, went back home that night and got everything ready. The next day was Funnel Hacking Live day. Those who haven't been to our event before, we don't start till like noon on day one, which gives us the morning to keep getting people registered and just gives me the morning to kind of prepare and make sure that I'm ready. It's scary when you start at nine. That means you have to be up by like six, preparing. Day one, we start at noon, which is really, really nice. And this day one was going to be interesting for a lot of reasons. Number one, it was the first time we had a virtual audience at home plus our normal people in the audience. And so there's kind of that dynamic that we had to kind of figure out at first, but also this year was our Click Funnel seven year birthday. And so I got up of very beginning and talked about entrepreneurship. Excuse me, I have a cough right now. I'm kind of recovering from, from Funnel Hacking Live, honestly. Anyway, and so I did my initial presentation and then I brought Todd out because we had something that we've been secretive and kept secret for the last, over a year now, which is, which is crazy that I kept a secret that long. You guys should be so proud of me. I'm not, I'm not very good at keeping secrets, but we announced that we are about to launch Click Funnels 2.0 and people went crazy. We kind of talked about it a little bit and I said, "You guys want to see a video of people who've actually seen Click Funnels 2.0?" and everyone went crazy as we watched this reveal video of just everybody watching it and freaking out. And it ended. And I was like, "Who here wants to see Click Funnels 2.0?" And they all went crazy and I was like, "Cool, tomorrow's our birthday. And tomorrow we're going to show you all inside everything." And it just like got quietly, just dead, quiet, awkwardly, quiet. I was like, "Oh crap, what do we, what do we do now?" And then I didn't know how to transition. That's when Todd is going to transition off stage and I was going to start the keynote presentation that I was going to give. It was just this weird thing. And I was like, "Okay, well, thanks, Todd." He kind of walks off. I totally messed that part up. And then I turned around and looked the audience and they were all just like, "You're really not going to show it to us right now?" I was like, "No, if I went to my first presentation," excuse me, which was one I was really excited for, it's called advanced funnel audibles. But because of the weird energy, I feel like the energy kind of dropped with my not giving them any info on 2.0 and do that next presentation. And it was the more advanced one. And I was so excited for that one, but I didn't feel like that one nailed it. I don't know when you're on stage. You can, you can feel like which one's like, "This crushed it," and which one's kind of you're like, "That didn't quite go perfect." And so I did the presentation. I think again, it was great, but it just didn't land. The energy wasn't what I wanted when I was sharing that. I wanted that to be my kickoff. So that was kind of one of those things where it's like, I think people understood what I was talking about. Blown away, but the energy just kind of wasn't... Anyway, this is me re-second guessing everything. I want to go back and redo day number one. But after that, then Anthony Trucks came and spoke on identity shifts and he was amazing. I've known him for quite a few years, but it's the first time I'd ever seen him speak in person and he just brought the level of energy and excitement that he brought was amazing. And just talking about his life and how many times he had these identity shifts in his life and how it affected everything and how to actually be able to take your identity and consciously change it, to be able to get the outcome that you're looking for in life. It was really, really cool. So Anthony spoke. After that Kaylin Poland came and spoke, which is exciting, because I wanted her to show how a lot of times people aren't in our industry, in our Click Funnels world, they think, "Oh, why sell physical products?" Or "I sell info products." Or they have a thing that they do. And I was trying to have Caitlin show that, no, you have a customer and you serve that customer. Right? And you do it through all means possible. You can sell them information, or physical products, or supplements, or coaching, or clothing, or whatever, your job is to serve those people. And that's the focal point. So she showed how they'd done that, Lady Boss, and how they've grown this huge company because of it. And that was really, really cool. After that, then we brought Stu McLaren on stage and we were able to give him a check for him and his wife's charity called Village Impact. And that's the group that I go to Kenya with every... Man, almost every year seems like. We're going in March, I believe, as long as it doesn't get canceled. But when we first launched Click Funnels, we set up where every time somebody builds a funnel, we donate a dollar towards the Village Impact and so this year's check was crazy. It's over $200,000, which was so cool and it's going to help so many amazing kids over in Africa. That was really fun. And then we also had a chance to launch a new site we'd built for Operation Underground Railroad called the Save a Child Challenge. And so we launched that at Funnel Hacking Live, which was really, really cool as well. And that was kind of everything before dinner. And then we fed everyone dinner there, because we wanted to keep people close around. And then that night we did workshops. Typically, if you've been to Funnel Hacking Live, in the past we do these round tables and everyone has a chance to be around the round tables, but because of COVID restrictions and stuff, we thought it'd be better to just do breakout rooms kind of. We had four breakout rooms. Jim Edwards went and talked about copywriting and he helped everybody actually build out their customer avatar, which is really cool because it's the foundation of all copy where most people never even do that. So he got them to actually build that out, which was really, really cool. Catherine Jones was back this year again, and she talked about funnels and building funnels and she did an amazing job as well. Rachel Miller came and talked about free traffic, which was really cool. And then Myron Golden talked about sales. And so those four people run these hour long workout workshop rooms. And while I was sitting there, I was supposed to be doing this other presentation that I was really excited for, but I was still kind of bummed about my my earlier presentation. I was like, "I don't want to give this. I just want to go home. I'm so tired. I want to go to bed. It's been such a long, stressful day," and all of a sudden people started filling back in the rooms and I'm like, "Oh man, I got to do this." And so I got on stage and I did my second presentation for the day, which was called Virtual Real Estate Secrets. And for whatever reason, I never know which ones are going to hit or not hit. But for whatever reason, the energy during that presentation nailed it. People were excited, they were on fire. They were just excited about the possibilities. What I was showing them was, I've talked about before on this podcast, but sometimes we talk about trying to build this huge empire. We're going to have tons of followers and fans and all these kind of things, but the reality is there's other ways to make money online too. And I talked about how in real estate you can buy a house and you can flip it. You can buy it and you can rehab it. You can buy it and you can put renters in it. There's all these things you do with real estate and I’m like, you can do the same things with virtual real estate, these little websites, these little funnels. And so I had like probably a dozen examples of little businesses that I've built that are just kind of running on autopilot, my little virtual real estate empire. And I kind of showed those things. And anyway, I think it was really cool because I think a lot of people, it opened their mind like, "Oh my gosh, I could do that. I could do that." And I started helping them just have ideas, of ways that they could get started easily without having to stress about, "What's my message going to be and who are my people," and all the things I think a lot of people get nervous about. So it's like, "Well, don't worry about that right now. Let's just make some small businesses. Make a business cash flows you a hundred bucks or 500 bucks or a thousand bucks." These are really easy to do when you understand the basics, so that was really fun one. And that wrapped up day number one, which was really cool. So anyway, I'm going to do a couple episodes, kind of talking about some of the core things that we did in this event. Throughout I'll also talk about the things we do during the event to help stimulate sales later in the event. Because you guys come to me, you want to learn marketing. So how do we use Funnel Hacking Live? How did we, did we use it to generate well over $10 million from the event? And so I'll talk about some of those things, but it all started on day number one. Day number one, the goal is to blow their minds, get them where like, "Man, if this is all I got this was still worth it." That's the first thing we want people thinking. And then also is helping them understand that there's a vision bigger than you. So you've ever noticed that Funnel Hacking Live day number one, we always have some kind of charity component where they're watching me give money to charity. And then also we're asking them to give money to charity because it helps train people on how does the room work if you're going to give somebody money, where do you go? Like where's the back of the room, where's the table? But also it shows that me and Todd, who are the ones who run this company, run the event like that. That we don't just say this stuff. We practice what we preach. We're donating money. We're giving money. In fact, you'll notice, we'll talk about this later, but on day four, whatever money people give to the Save a Child Challenge, we matched it. We're trying to show that like, "Hey, we also are doing these things too. I'm not asking you to anything that we're not willing to do as well." And so it all kind of starts with that day number one is blowing their minds, making them see that you're doing the same things you're asking them to do and just giving them a really good experience. And that's kind of how the very beginning of Funnel Hacking Live went this year, 2021. So those who were there, if you enjoyed it, please, take a picture of this podcast episode and tag me in it and let me know what your biggest favorite thing was from day number one, there's so many cool speakers, so many cool things. For me, my favorite thing I think was my last presentation, when I did the virtual real estate presentation, I can just feel the energy was perfect. And everyone was so excited. That and also the Initial Launch 2.0. I did the whole teasing thing and everyone's energy dropped. It was still cool to be able to finally talk about this thing that we've been talking about for so long. We were so excited to share with the world. So anyway, there's day number one at Funnel Hacking Live. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live 2021 - Day #1 Recap full 457 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell goes on a deep dive, explaining all the fun things that went on behind the scenes of the first day of this year's Funnel Hacking Live event! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript---... Russell goes on a deep dive, explaining all the fun things that went on behind the scenes of the first day of this year's Funnel Hacking Live event! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. It's been a little while since I've talked to you personally. That's not completely true. You guys have been listening to some of the Traffic Secrets episodes over the last few weeks, but right now I'm recording this episode about two weeks after Funnel Hacking Live 2021 is over. And I wanted to share some of the thoughts, some of the behind the scenes, some of the craziness and chaos that happened, and how we pulled off the biggest events since the coronavirus has hit inside of our industry. So with that said, I'll queue up the theme song. When I get back, we'll hang out and talk about the event. All right. So first off for those who came to Funnel Hacking Live that was so much fun. Thank you for coming, for participating, for playing all out. Folks who weren't able to come, but watched from home, thank you as well for participating. I hope you guys enjoyed it. It was really cool. This is our first year ever doing a hybrid where we were going to have people in person and at home. And honestly, I've never told anybody this, but about 30 days before Funnel Hacking Live actually happened, we had to make the decision if it was going to happen. And it's one of those weird meetings where it's like, "Do we do this? Or do we not?" Because COVID numbers are spiking and all sorts of like just the chaos and just all the things that were happening. And we had to basically put down a down payment on Hogwarts because yes, we rented Hogwarts for the inner circle and two comma club winners. And so that was like the drop dead. We have to write a check right now for, I don't know how much it was, quarter million dollars or whatever it was for Hogwarts. "Are we do this or not because there's no way to get this money back if we decide to not do Funnel Hacking Live," and I was like, "Wait, we may not be doing Funnel Hacking Live?" And they're like, "Well, this is the last shot to change it." I'm like, "Ah." So there's all the fear behind that. So finally, I was like, "All right, we're doing it. Put the money down. This is happening." As we got closer to the event, one of my kids got COVID at school and we're like, "Oh no," because I was like, "I don't really care. I'm not too nervous about getting COVID." Other than if I get COVID during the event, like that would be tragic, right? Like everyone's coming to hear me talk about funnels and stuff. And if I'm not there, I can't speak. Or are people can get on stage and get their pictures with me or all the different things. Give their awards on stage and it could have ruined the whole event for so many people who'd put it in life savings for some people to come and travel here and to be part of this thing. I got really, really nervous and so I started doing everything you can dream of to protect myself and my health. I was taking every pill and powder you can dream of. I had my natural path coming and doing I.V. drips throughout the day, so I'm working while I've got bags of stuff, hooked to all my veins and all the chaos to try to make sure that we could stay healthy for the event. We also normally fly commercial there, but I was like, "Anything I can do to minimize my exposure until the event happens the better." So we flew private out there and we got to FHL and we got their day earlier than I normally do, which was actually really nice. A chance to get to see everything and watch things get set up. You could tell there was something about year that was just different. The energy in the hallways. And you saw people was just, you could tell people missed being around each other and missed networking and all that kind of stuff. And so everything started building up towards that. And I remember the night before, so we did our big party at Hogwarts. We took the inner circle members and two comma cup winners and two comma club X-ers and all of our high-end coaching people to Hogwarts and we rented the whole thing out, which was crazy. So we got to be hanging out in Diagon Alley, and ride a Gringotts ride, and then get butter beer and just hang out and network. It was really a really cool special time for, I think everybody. But for me, I had to like leave a little early cause I was like, "I'm still not done with my slides," as Russell normally does. In fact, we brought our two twins. One of them was just like, "Dad, you're still not done with your slides" like this is crazy." I'm like, "I know I just- there's so many of them to do." Anyways, went back home that night and got everything ready. The next day was Funnel Hacking Live day. Those who haven't been to our event before, we don't start till like noon on day one, which gives us the morning to keep getting people registered and just gives me the morning to kind of prepare and make sure that I'm ready. It's scary when you start at nine. That means you have to be up by like six, preparing. Day one, we start at noon, which is really, really nice. And this day one was going to be interesting for a lot of reasons. Number one, it was the first time we had a virtual audience at home plus our normal people in the audience. And so there's kind of that dynamic that we had to kind of figure out at first, but also this year was our Click Funnel seven year birthday. And so I got up of very beginning and talked about entrepreneurship. Excuse me, I have a cough right now. I'm kind of recovering from, from Funnel Hacking Live, honestly. Anyway, and so I did my initial presentation and then I brought Todd out because we had something that we've been secretive and kept secret for the last, over a year now, which is, which is crazy that I kept a secret that long. You guys should be so proud of me. I'm not, I'm not very good at keeping secrets, but we announced that we are about to launch Click Funnels 2.0 and people went crazy. We kind of talked about it a little bit and I said, "You guys want to see a video of people who've actually seen Click Funnels 2.0?" and everyone went crazy as we watched this reveal video of just everybody watching it and freaking out. And it ended. And I was like, "Who here wants to see Click Funnels 2.0?" And they all went crazy and I was like, "Cool, tomorrow's our birthday. And tomorrow we're going to show you all inside everything." And it just like got quietly, just dead, quiet, awkwardly, quiet. I was like, "Oh crap, what do we, what do we do now?" And then I didn't know how to transition. That's when Todd is going to transition off stage and I was going to start the keynote presentation that I was going to give. It was just this weird thing. And I was like, "Okay, well, thanks, Todd." He kind of walks off. I totally messed that part up. And then I turned around and looked the audience and they were all just like, "You're really not going to show it to us right now?" I was like, "No, if I went to my first presentation," excuse me, which was one I was really excited for, it's called advanced funnel audibles. But because of the weird energy, I feel like the energy kind of dropped with my not giving them any info on 2.0 and do that next presentation. And it was the more advanced one. And I was so excited for that one, but I didn't feel like that one nailed it. I don't know when you're on stage. You can, you can feel like which one's like, "This crushed it," and which one's kind of you're like, "That didn't quite go perfect." And so I did the presentation. I think again, it was great, but it just didn't land. The energy wasn't what I wanted when I was sharing that. I wanted that to be my kickoff. So that was kind of one of those things where it's like, I think people understood what I was talking about. Blown away, but the energy just kind of wasn't... Anyway, this is me re-second guessing everything. I want to go back and redo day number one. But after that, then Anthony Trucks came and spoke on identity shifts and he was amazing. I've known him for quite a few years, but it's the first time I'd ever seen him speak in person and he just brought the level of energy and excitement that he brought was amazing. And just talking about his life and how many times he had these identity shifts in his life and how it affected everything and how to actually be able to take your identity and consciously change it, to be able to get the outcome that you're looking for in life. It was really, really cool. So Anthony spoke. After that Kaylin Poland came and spoke, which is exciting, because I wanted her to show how a lot of times people aren't in our industry, in our Click Funnels world, they think, "Oh, why sell physical products?" Or "I sell info products." Or they have a thing that they do. And I was trying to have Caitlin show that, no, you have a customer and you serve that customer. Right? And you do it through all means possible. You can sell them information, or physical products, or supplements, or coaching, or clothing, or whatever, your job is to serve those people. And that's the focal point. So she showed how they'd done that, Lady Boss, and how they've grown this huge company because of it. And that was really, really cool. After that, then we brought Stu McLaren on stage and we were able to give him a check for him and his wife's charity called Village Impact. And that's the group that I go to Kenya with every... Man, almost every year seems like. We're going in March, I believe, as long as it doesn't get canceled. But when we first launched Click Funnels, we set up where every time somebody builds a funnel, we donate a dollar towards the Village Impact and so this year's check was crazy. It's over $200,000, which was so cool and it's going to help so many amazing kids over in Africa. That was really fun. And then we also had a chance to launch a new site we'd built for Operation Underground Railroad called the Save a Child Challenge. And so we launched that at Funnel Hacking Live, which was really, really cool as well. And that was kind of everything before dinner. And then we fed everyone dinner there, because we wanted to keep people close around. And then that night we did workshops. Typically, if you've been to Funnel Hacking Live, in the past we do these round tables and everyone has a chance to be around the round tables, but because of COVID restrictions and stuff, we thought it'd be better to just do breakout rooms kind of. We had four breakout rooms. Jim Edwards went and talked about copywriting and he helped everybody actually build out their customer avatar, which is really cool because it's the foundation of all copy where most people never even do that. So he got them to actually build that out, which was really, really cool. Catherine Jones was back this year again, and she talked about funnels and building funnels and she did an amazing job as well. Rachel Miller came and talked about free traffic, which was really cool. And then Myron Golden talked about sales. And so those four people run these hour long workout workshop rooms. And while I was sitting there, I was supposed to be doing this other presentation that I was really excited for, but I was still kind of bummed about my my earlier presentation. I was like, "I don't want to give this. I just want to go home. I'm so tired. I want to go to bed. It's been such a long, stressful day," and all of a sudden people started filling back in the rooms and I'm like, "Oh man, I got to do this." And so I got on stage and I did my second presentation for the day, which was called Virtual Real Estate Secrets. And for whatever reason, I never know which ones are going to hit or not hit. But for whatever reason, the energy during that presentation nailed it. People were excited, they were on fire. They were just excited about the possibilities. What I was showing them was, I've talked about before on this podcast, but sometimes we talk about trying to build this huge empire. We're going to have tons of followers and fans and all these kind of things, but the reality is there's other ways to make money online too. And I talked about how in real estate you can buy a house and you can flip it. You can buy it and you can rehab it. You can buy it and you can put renters in it. There's all these things you do with real estate and I’m like, you can do the same things with virtual real estate, these little websites, these little funnels. And so I had like probably a dozen examples of little businesses that I've built that are just kind of running on autopilot, my little virtual real estate empire. And I kind of showed those things. And anyway, I think it was really cool because I think a lot of people, it opened their mind like, "Oh my gosh, I could do that. I could do that." And I started helping them just have ideas, of ways that they could get started easily without having to stress about, "What's my message going to be and who are my people," and all the things I think a lot of people get nervous about. So it's like, "Well, don't worry about that right now. Let's just make some small businesses. Make a business cash flows you a hundred bucks or 500 bucks or a thousand bucks." These are really easy to do when you understand the basics, so that was really fun one. And that wrapped up day number one, which was really cool. So anyway, I'm going to do a couple episodes, kind of talking about some of the core things that we did in this event. Throughout I'll also talk about the things we do during the event to help stimulate sales later in the event. Because you guys come to me, you want to learn marketing. So how do we use Funnel Hacking Live? How did we, did we use it to generate well over $10 million from the event? And so I'll talk about some of those things, but it all started on day number one. Day number one, the goal is to blow their minds, get them where like, "Man, if this is all I got this was still worth it." That's the first thing we want people thinking. And then also is helping them understand that there's a vision bigger than you. So you've ever noticed that Funnel Hacking Live day number one, we always have some kind of charity component where they're watching me give money to charity. And then also we're asking them to give money to charity because it helps train people on how does the room work if you're going to give somebody money, where do you go? Like where's the back of the room, where's the table? But also it shows that me and Todd, who are the ones who run this company, run the event like that. That we don't just say this stuff. We practice what we preach. We're donating money. We're giving money. In fact, you'll notice, we'll talk about this later, but on day four, whatever money people give to the Save a Child Challenge, we matched it. We're trying to show that like, "Hey, we also are doing these things too. I'm not asking you to anything that we're not willing to do as well." And so it all kind of starts with that day number one is blowing their minds, making them see that you're doing the same things you're asking them to do and just giving them a really good experience. And that's kind of how the very beginning of Funnel Hacking Live went this year, 2021. So those who were there, if you enjoyed it, please, take a picture of this podcast episode and tag me in it and let me know what your biggest favorite thing was from day number one, there's so many cool speakers, so many cool things. For me, my favorite thing I think was my last presentation, when I did the virtual real estate presentation, I can just feel the energy was perfect. And everyone was so excited. That and also the Initial Launch 2.0. I did the whole teasing thing and everyone's energy dropped. It was still cool to be able to finally talk about this thing that we've been talking about for so long. We were so excited to share with the world. So anyway, there's day number one at Funnel Hacking Live. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell goes on a deep dive, explaining all the fun things that went on behind the scenes of the first day of this year's Funnel Hacking Live event!

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---Transcript---

What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. It's been a little while since I've talked to you personally. That's not completely true. You guys have been listening to some of the Traffic Secrets episodes over the last few weeks, but right now I'm recording this episode about two weeks after Funnel Hacking Live 2021 is over. And I wanted to share some of the thoughts, some of the behind the scenes, some of the craziness and chaos that happened, and how we pulled off the biggest events since the coronavirus has hit inside of our industry. So with that said, I'll queue up the theme song. When I get back, we'll hang out and talk about the event.

All right. So first off for those who came to Funnel Hacking Live that was so much fun. Thank you for coming, for participating, for playing all out. Folks who weren't able to come, but watched from home, thank you as well for participating. I hope you guys enjoyed it. It was really cool. This is our first year ever doing a hybrid where we were going to have people in person and at home. And honestly, I've never told anybody this, but about 30 days before Funnel Hacking Live actually happened, we had to make the decision if it was going to happen. And it's one of those weird meetings where it's like, "Do we do this? Or do we not?" Because COVID numbers are spiking and all sorts of like just the chaos and just all the things that were happening. And we had to basically put down a down payment on Hogwarts because yes, we rented Hogwarts for the inner circle and two comma club winners. And so that was like the drop dead. We have to write a check right now for, I don't know how much it was, quarter million dollars or whatever it was for Hogwarts.

"Are we do this or not because there's no way to get this money back if we decide to not do Funnel Hacking Live," and I was like, "Wait, we may not be doing Funnel Hacking Live?" And they're like, "Well, this is the last shot to change it." I'm like, "Ah." So there's all the fear behind that. So finally, I was like, "All right, we're doing it. Put the money down. This is happening." As we got closer to the event, one of my kids got COVID at school and we're like, "Oh no," because I was like, "I don't really care. I'm not too nervous about getting COVID." Other than if I get COVID during the event, like that would be tragic, right? Like everyone's coming to hear me talk about funnels and stuff. And if I'm not there, I can't speak. Or are people can get on stage and get their pictures with me or all the different things. Give their awards on stage and it could have ruined the whole event for so many people who'd put it in life savings for some people to come and travel here and to be part of this thing.

I got really, really nervous and so I started doing everything you can dream of to protect myself and my health. I was taking every pill and powder you can dream of. I had my natural path coming and doing I.V. drips throughout the day, so I'm working while I've got bags of stuff, hooked to all my veins and all the chaos to try to make sure that we could stay healthy for the event. We also normally fly commercial there, but I was like, "Anything I can do to minimize my exposure until the event happens the better." So we flew private out there and we got to FHL and we got their day earlier than I normally do, which was actually really nice. A chance to get to see everything and watch things get set up. You could tell there was something about year that was just different. The energy in the hallways. And you saw people was just, you could tell people missed being around each other and missed networking and all that kind of stuff. And so everything started building up towards that.

And I remember the night before, so we did our big party at Hogwarts. We took the inner circle members and two comma cup winners and two comma club X-ers and all of our high-end coaching people to Hogwarts and we rented the whole thing out, which was crazy. So we got to be hanging out in Diagon Alley, and ride a Gringotts ride, and then get butter beer and just hang out and network. It was really a really cool special time for, I think everybody. But for me, I had to like leave a little early cause I was like, "I'm still not done with my slides," as Russell normally does. In fact, we brought our two twins. One of them was just like, "Dad, you're still not done with your slides" like this is crazy." I'm like, "I know I just- there's so many of them to do." Anyways, went back home that night and got everything ready. The next day was Funnel Hacking Live day.

Those who haven't been to our event before, we don't start till like noon on day one, which gives us the morning to keep getting people registered and just gives me the morning to kind of prepare and make sure that I'm ready. It's scary when you start at nine. That means you have to be up by like six, preparing. Day one, we start at noon, which is really, really nice. And this day one was going to be interesting for a lot of reasons. Number one, it was the first time we had a virtual audience at home plus our normal people in the audience. And so there's kind of that dynamic that we had to kind of figure out at first, but also this year was our Click Funnel seven year birthday.

And so I got up of very beginning and talked about entrepreneurship. Excuse me, I have a cough right now. I'm kind of recovering from, from Funnel Hacking Live, honestly. Anyway, and so I did my initial presentation and then I brought Todd out because we had something that we've been secretive and kept secret for the last, over a year now, which is, which is crazy that I kept a secret that long. You guys should be so proud of me. I'm not, I'm not very good at keeping secrets, but we announced that we are about to launch Click Funnels 2.0 and people went crazy. We kind of talked about it a little bit and I said, "You guys want to see a video of people who've actually seen Click Funnels 2.0?" and everyone went crazy as we watched this reveal video of just everybody watching it and freaking out. And it ended. And I was like, "Who here wants to see Click Funnels 2.0?" And they all went crazy and I was like, "Cool, tomorrow's our birthday. And tomorrow we're going to show you all inside everything." And it just like got quietly, just dead, quiet, awkwardly, quiet. I was like, "Oh crap, what do we, what do we do now?"

And then I didn't know how to transition. That's when Todd is going to transition off stage and I was going to start the keynote presentation that I was going to give. It was just this weird thing. And I was like, "Okay, well, thanks, Todd." He kind of walks off. I totally messed that part up. And then I turned around and looked the audience and they were all just like, "You're really not going to show it to us right now?" I was like, "No, if I went to my first presentation," excuse me, which was one I was really excited for, it's called advanced funnel audibles. But because of the weird energy, I feel like the energy kind of dropped with my not giving them any info on 2.0 and do that next presentation. And it was the more advanced one.

And I was so excited for that one, but I didn't feel like that one nailed it. I don't know when you're on stage. You can, you can feel like which one's like, "This crushed it," and which one's kind of you're like, "That didn't quite go perfect." And so I did the presentation. I think again, it was great, but it just didn't land. The energy wasn't what I wanted when I was sharing that. I wanted that to be my kickoff. So that was kind of one of those things where it's like, I think people understood what I was talking about. Blown away, but the energy just kind of wasn't... Anyway, this is me re-second guessing everything. I want to go back and redo day number one. But after that, then Anthony Trucks came and spoke on identity shifts and he was amazing.

I've known him for quite a few years, but it's the first time I'd ever seen him speak in person and he just brought the level of energy and excitement that he brought was amazing. And just talking about his life and how many times he had these identity shifts in his life and how it affected everything and how to actually be able to take your identity and consciously change it, to be able to get the outcome that you're looking for in life. It was really, really cool. So Anthony spoke. After that Kaylin Poland came and spoke, which is exciting, because I wanted her to show how a lot of times people aren't in our industry, in our Click Funnels world, they think, "Oh, why sell physical products?" Or "I sell info products." Or they have a thing that they do. And I was trying to have Caitlin show that, no, you have a customer and you serve that customer. Right? And you do it through all means possible. You can sell them information, or physical products, or supplements, or coaching, or clothing, or whatever, your job is to serve those people. And that's the focal point.

So she showed how they'd done that, Lady Boss, and how they've grown this huge company because of it. And that was really, really cool. After that, then we brought Stu McLaren on stage and we were able to give him a check for him and his wife's charity called Village Impact. And that's the group that I go to Kenya with every... Man, almost every year seems like. We're going in March, I believe, as long as it doesn't get canceled. But when we first launched Click Funnels, we set up where every time somebody builds a funnel, we donate a dollar towards the Village Impact and so this year's check was crazy. It's over $200,000, which was so cool and it's going to help so many amazing kids over in Africa. That was really fun.

And then we also had a chance to launch a new site we'd built for Operation Underground Railroad called the Save a Child Challenge. And so we launched that at Funnel Hacking Live, which was really, really cool as well. And that was kind of everything before dinner. And then we fed everyone dinner there, because we wanted to keep people close around. And then that night we did workshops. Typically, if you've been to Funnel Hacking Live, in the past we do these round tables and everyone has a chance to be around the round tables, but because of COVID restrictions and stuff, we thought it'd be better to just do breakout rooms kind of.

We had four breakout rooms. Jim Edwards went and talked about copywriting and he helped everybody actually build out their customer avatar, which is really cool because it's the foundation of all copy where most people never even do that. So he got them to actually build that out, which was really, really cool. Catherine Jones was back this year again, and she talked about funnels and building funnels and she did an amazing job as well. Rachel Miller came and talked about free traffic, which was really cool. And then Myron Golden talked about sales. And so those four people run these hour long workout workshop rooms. And while I was sitting there, I was supposed to be doing this other presentation that I was really excited for, but I was still kind of bummed about my my earlier presentation. I was like, "I don't want to give this. I just want to go home. I'm so tired. I want to go to bed. It's been such a long, stressful day," and all of a sudden people started filling back in the rooms and I'm like, "Oh man, I got to do this."

And so I got on stage and I did my second presentation for the day, which was called Virtual Real Estate Secrets. And for whatever reason, I never know which ones are going to hit or not hit. But for whatever reason, the energy during that presentation nailed it. People were excited, they were on fire. They were just excited about the possibilities. What I was showing them was, I've talked about before on this podcast, but sometimes we talk about trying to build this huge empire. We're going to have tons of followers and fans and all these kind of things, but the reality is there's other ways to make money online too. And I talked about how in real estate you can buy a house and you can flip it. You can buy it and you can rehab it. You can buy it and you can put renters in it.

There's all these things you do with real estate and I’m like, you can do the same things with virtual real estate, these little websites, these little funnels. And so I had like probably a dozen examples of little businesses that I've built that are just kind of running on autopilot, my little virtual real estate empire. And I kind of showed those things. And anyway, I think it was really cool because I think a lot of people, it opened their mind like, "Oh my gosh, I could do that. I could do that." And I started helping them just have ideas, of ways that they could get started easily without having to stress about, "What's my message going to be and who are my people," and all the things I think a lot of people get nervous about.

So it's like, "Well, don't worry about that right now. Let's just make some small businesses. Make a business cash flows you a hundred bucks or 500 bucks or a thousand bucks." These are really easy to do when you understand the basics, so that was really fun one. And that wrapped up day number one, which was really cool. So anyway, I'm going to do a couple episodes, kind of talking about some of the core things that we did in this event. Throughout I'll also talk about the things we do during the event to help stimulate sales later in the event. Because you guys come to me, you want to learn marketing. So how do we use Funnel Hacking Live? How did we, did we use it to generate well over $10 million from the event? And so I'll talk about some of those things, but it all started on day number one. Day number one, the goal is to blow their minds, get them where like, "Man, if this is all I got this was still worth it." That's the first thing we want people thinking.

And then also is helping them understand that there's a vision bigger than you. So you've ever noticed that Funnel Hacking Live day number one, we always have some kind of charity component where they're watching me give money to charity. And then also we're asking them to give money to charity because it helps train people on how does the room work if you're going to give somebody money, where do you go? Like where's the back of the room, where's the table? But also it shows that me and Todd, who are the ones who run this company, run the event like that. That we don't just say this stuff. We practice what we preach. We're donating money. We're giving money. In fact, you'll notice, we'll talk about this later, but on day four, whatever money people give to the Save a Child Challenge, we matched it. We're trying to show that like, "Hey, we also are doing these things too. I'm not asking you to anything that we're not willing to do as well."

And so it all kind of starts with that day number one is blowing their minds, making them see that you're doing the same things you're asking them to do and just giving them a really good experience. And that's kind of how the very beginning of Funnel Hacking Live went this year, 2021. So those who were there, if you enjoyed it, please, take a picture of this podcast episode and tag me in it and let me know what your biggest favorite thing was from day number one, there's so many cool speakers, so many cool things. For me, my favorite thing I think was my last presentation, when I did the virtual real estate presentation, I can just feel the energy was perfect. And everyone was so excited. That and also the Initial Launch 2.0. I did the whole teasing thing and everyone's energy dropped. It was still cool to be able to finally talk about this thing that we've been talking about for so long. We were so excited to share with the world. So anyway, there's day number one at Funnel Hacking Live.

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]]> 951 no How to Infiltrate Your Dream 100! (TS) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-infiltrate-your-dream-100-ts Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want your Dream influencers to start promoting you, your business, and your products? It took Russell a decade of relationship building to get some of his biggest influencers. But now he's figured out the FORMULA. You'll learn... Why building a platform is the BEST way to infiltrate your Dream 100. How to choose what TYPE of platform you should build. Why you should publish NEW CONTENT every single day for an entire year. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to our fun hangout time in quarantine, every single day. I am trying to set up, I'm sitting in a different spot, so I can actually sit in a chair today, because the last two weeks I've been sitting on the floor and my legs are burning. So we're hanging out a little differently. Hopefully this still works and you guys can all hear me. And right now, we are live on Facebook and Instagram, and I'm excited to be hanging out with you guys today. So, it is Friday. We are a couple of weeks into this whole crazy quarantine now. I think I told you guys, Boise officially got locked down a couple of days ago, which is good for you guys. Means we all get to hang out more often here, and we're going to start sharing more things from the books. And I'm curious, how many guys have had a chance to listen to the entire audiobook? I know that the new Traffic Secrets book doesn't actually ship until May fifth, but the audio book is available. I sat in a theater, or studio actually, for seven days. It took me three days to read the Traffic Secrets book, two days to read the DotCom Secrets, and two days read the Expert Secrets book. I got audiobooks done of all three of the new updated versions, but curious how many guys actually had a chance to listen to the whole thing? I know a bunch of guys were like, "I'm going to buy it. I'm going to get the audio book, and I'm going to listen to the whole thing before tomorrow." So hopefully a bunch of you guys had a chance to listen to it, which would be really fun. So, all right, Chris Baden said, "Me." All right, so, good. If not, it's time to... What are you guys doing? We're sitting around doing nothing anyway. Might as well be listening to sharpen your saw, sharpen your mind, and getting prepared for what's coming next. So, Austin said, "Russell, BJJ or wrestling?" Come on, now. Wrestling is the greatest sport of all time, but BJJ is number two. So, it is good. All right, are you guys excited for today, I'm going to read some more of the book. In fact, we are finishing up section number one today, here inside Traffic Secrets. I'm going to open this thing up. And this is the box set, this is the trilogy. And it's funny, I sent this to Liz Benny, a picture. I'm like, "This is the trilogy." And she's like, "Russell, there's four books. A trilogy only has three." And I was like, "Crap." Well, I'm like, "This is the trilogy, and this is the workbook that goes with the trilogy. So there's four books in a trilogy." I don't know. "Trilogy" sounds cooler. So, there you go. And check this out, if you see the book... Can you guys see the box set? It's really cool. It says, "The Secrets Trilogy by Russell Brunson." On the back, it's got the Dotcom Secrets is the framework, Expert Secrets is the fire, Traffic Secrets is the fuel, and then Unlock Secrets is your playbook. And then this side is a quote, I don't know, it might be backwards for you guys. It says "You're just one funnel away," and then a quote from Garrett White says, "The life you want, the marriage you want, and the family want are going to be fueled by the businesses you build." And so that's kind of what's in the box set. All right. Let's open this up. We're going back in Traffic Secrets. We've been doing this every single day now for almost two weeks, which has been a lot of fun for me. And we're almost to the end. Today we're going to finish up talking about the first section of the book, which is going to be cool. So we've covered a lot of stuff. So section number one in the book is all about... In fact, if you look at the title, section one is called "Your Dream Customer." It's really understanding and mastering your customer. Where are they at? How do we find them? How do we get a hold of them? What are the hooks, the stories, the offers for you to grab their attention, to pull them into your world? Who's already congregated? How do we follow up with those people? All the things we've been talking about. And so, secret number seven is infiltrating the Dream 100. How do you do that? It's going to be really fun. And then next week, we're getting into section number two of the book, which is called "Fill your Funnel." This is now where we started breaking down different networks. We're going to Facebook, Instagram, Google, YouTube, podcasting, and a bunch of other ones. I'll show you guys a pattern of how we dominate all of those. But when you understand the pattern, what's cool about it is we'll give you the ability to dominate anything. Cause you can use this process to dominate TikToks, Twitch, the new platforms coming out next week. Xavier said, "Throwing my wallet on the screen." That's amazing. I love it. I love it. All right. So we're going to Dream 100. So, infiltrating your Dream 100. How do you get into those people? This is the question a lot of people have, cause I've been talking about Dream 100 pretty consistently now for a decade. I tell people, "Build your Dream 100. Go find those people. Network with them, build relationships, get them to promote you." Things like that. And it's funny, because some people hear me say that, and they don't do anything about it. That's the majority of people. Some people hear me, they build the Dream 100 and start contacting, but they never get in with them. They never ask them to do anything. They just kind of start the exercise, but they don't actually finish it. And so this is going to help you guys understand how to finish this exercise. How do you take this Dream 100, and how do you infiltrate it? How do you build relationships? How do you get in with them? So secret number seven, we're on page 104. Those who are following along in your books, which haven't been shipped yet. They ship May fifth though, so you should be getting them about a month from now. You guys should all start getting your books. If you don't have your book yet, or the audiobook, you can go get a free copy at trafficsecrets.com. You just got to cover the shipping, which is not that much money. I think it's under 10 bucks in the U.S., And a little more international. If you go to trafficsecrets.com, you can get it. There's a bunch of amazing videos and you get immediately the bonuses. Plus, the order form bump is the audiobook. So if you want to listen to it this weekend, you can go upgrade your order and get the audiobook, and you can listen to me reading this entire book to you. And yeah, so it's kind of fun. All right. So, infiltrating the Dream 100. So I want to tell you guys a story that I tell in the book. How many of you guys remember the Arsenio Hall Show? How many of you guys are old enough? I turn 40 this year. So, old enough to remember that Arsenio Hall Show. He's the late-night "Who, who." That's Arsenio Hall, right? Now, I remember when I was growing up, my parents would not let me watch the Arsenio Hall Show for whatever reason. I think it was cause it was late-night. But my friend's parents let him watch it all the time. So he'd always talk about it, and he was always doing that thing. And so, I remember he would tell me stories and I always wanted to watch it. I never did, until one night, we had a sleepover at his house and I got to watch the Arsenio Hall Show. It was so cool, because he would run out, and he does this "Who, who, who," and everyone's excited. He's interviewing people, and they're funny people. And it was just this really cool thing. And what's interesting is, I started doing... Oh, actually, this was really funny. After we saw that, that became our thing. That was Arsenio Hall's thing, but that became our thing. We were playing basketball, we'd dunk on someone. We'd play football, catch a touchdown, and like, "Who, who." It became all of our things, right? Oh, someone said that their aunt worked on the show. How cool is that? All right. So, Arsenio Hall Show, at the peak of it, in fact, in June 1992, Bill Clinton, who was running for president at the time, came on the Arsenio Hall Show, played the saxophone. He played the song Heartbreak Hotel, and many people said that one of the main... Not the main reason, but a big reason why President Clinton won the election is because the people who watched Arsenio Hall Show. They said it helped build his popularity among minority and younger voters, which is one of the main... Not main, but one of the major reasons why he won the election. Which is very interesting, right? Anyway, so then two years after that, Arsenio Hall Show gets canceled, right? And then how many guys have heard of Arsenio Hall since then? No one has, right? He disappeared off the face of the planet. What happened? Until a couple years ago in 2012... I can't believe it was 2012. That was really 10 years ago? I don't know what year we're in right now. In quarantine time, I don't remember what year we're in. Anyway, 2012, we're watching Celebrity Apprentice, cause that's what we do. And all of a sudden, Arsenio Hall is one of the contestants on Celebrity Apprentice. Which we're like, "This is amazing," right? So we're watching this whole thing and there was something interesting that happened. So they do different fundraisers on Celebrity Apprentice, things are happening. And then one of the episodes was a fundraiser. And so all the contestants jump on the phone, they're calling all their friends, everyone they know, they're trying to raise money, right? And every single one of the celebrities get on the phone and raise money. Somebody raise 30 grand, some raise hundreds of thousands. Everyone's got different levels of it. A couple of people raised half a million or something. Everybody raised money, except for one contestant. Can you guess which contestant that was? The only contestant that raised not even a penny was Arsenio Hall. And you see the scene, he's on the phone with his address book, and he's calling person after person after person, nobody will return his call. He's like, "Why is nobody returning my calls?" And then at the very end, they tally up, and he's the only one that doesn't get any money. And they showed us a little clip of him in the boardroom or whatever, talking to the camera. And he's all frustrated. And he just looks at it, and he says, "You know what?" He said, "When I had my own show, everybody returned my call." Boom. Okay? Now, most people missed that. But for me, it rang in my head like a bell. When Arsenio Hall had a show, he had a platform. He was able to call anyone on earth, including Bill Clinton, who was currently running for president and say, "Do you want to be on my show, man?" And the next day, Bill Clinton's on his show, playing saxophone, right? He loses his show, loses his platform. No one returns his call. People ask me, "Russell, how in the world did you get in with Tony Robbins and Dean Grasiozi, and all these people?" And I would love to think that the reason why I got in with all these guys is because I'm so nice, or charismatic, or maybe think my haircut's cool, or whatever. Right? And as much as I wish that was the truth, I know, I'm fully aware that the reason why I was able to get into my Dream 100 is because the thing that I have to offer them is my platform. That is what I have to offer people. So when I met Tony, I'm like, "Hey Tony, I've got a whole bunch of entrepreneurs that follow me. Can I interview you? Can I get to know you? Can I..." I met Dean, "Hey Dean, I want to help promote you. Hey Dean, do you want to be on my show? Hey..." And you can name off all the people in my Dream 100, everyone I've tried to get, my platform is the thing that I had to offer my Dream 100. It's the tangible thing that I own, that I control, that provides value to people who are three, or four, or five levels above me. Right? And so, for you, the question is, you're building this Dream 100, and then how are you going to approach them? Like, "Hey, Dream 100, can you do this thing for me? Can you do this thing?" They're going to say "no," right? They have enough things happening in their lives. The thing you have to offer them is your platform, but you've got to have a platform. Right? And so that's this whole secret number seven is about, is building up your platform. So what does your platform look like? Well, for everyone it's going to be different. Some of you guys... In fact, I'm going to do a poll right here. How many of you guys right now who are listening to this love to write? Like, "I love writing. If I could just write all day, I'd be the happiest person in the world." Okay. If you are someone who loves to write, the platform you need to be building is you need to be starting a blog. You should be writing. How many of you guys are like, "Writing sounds like the worst thing on planet earth. I do not want to write ever, but I love to talk." Right? Okay. Maybe for you, you should be starting a podcast. That's the platform. You love talking and speaking, that should be your thing. How many of you guys are like, "I like writing, podcasting, but I love being on video. I want people to see my face. I want them to see my excitement. Oh, this is amazing." For those, you guys should be starting a video channel, a vlog, a YouTube channel, or Instagram, or Facebook, or somewhere. You got to find the spot that you're the most comfortable. Okay? Because if you're not comfortable, you're not going to be consistent with it. That's number one, figuring out, where do you want to build your platform at? Right? And then, you've got to start actually growing it. Okay? And I have a whole bunch of stuff here, I wish I could read all of it to you. Starting on page 112, it's like, how do you find your voice? Because when you first start your own show, it's scary, right? How do you know how to talk? If you listen to the first 40 plus episodes of my podcast, they were really bad. I was shy and awkward, nervous. And people are like, "Russell, you seem like such a natural communicator. How did you become so natural at it?" I became natural because I published 800 episodes of my podcast consistently three to five times a week, every single day for the last eight years. Okay? And I've been on Facebook Live hundreds of times. And I've been on tons of other… I sound natural because I've done it a lot. I found my voice and I continue to try to develop it and make it better. But it's consistency. Okay? Before any of you guys saw me up here talking to you, it was a decade of me putting in the time and the effort of publishing, and finding my voice, and doing it over and over and over again. And so what I want to recommend for all of you guys is you need to pick a platform, whatever one it is, especially now, especially during times when everyone's stressing out. This is your shot, your chance to step up as the leader that your people are looking for, and start talking. Start sharing. Start giving faith and hope and a brighter future for your people. Now is the time. So I want to challenge you guys to figure out... If you're a writer, you're starting a blog, and I would recommend going to medium.com, starting a blog there. If you're a speaker, you're going to start a podcast. If you like video, you can start a video vlog. And I don't care if it's on Facebook Live, YouTube Live, I don't care. Pick a platform and stick with it. And then, I challenge you to publish every single day for the next year. Starting today. Not mañana, starting today. I want you to publish every single day for an entire year. Okay? And at first you're like, "I don't have stuff to talk about for entire year." I get it. Okay? But what's magic is that you start speaking, more things will come to you. Okay? As you open up your mouth, the Lord will bless you with more ideas, more inspiration, more things. As you share, as you give, as you're helping other people, more stuff will come to you. So it's very important to understand that. Okay? So you got to publish every single day for at least a year. And the reason why we do this is a couple of things. Number one, at first, you are going to be very, very bad. Okay? So you need to start publishing to be able to find your voice, this is the big part of it. If you don't start publishing now, you will never find your voice. The reason I'm good today is because eight years ago, I started publishing every single day. Okay? So you start publishing to find your voice. And first you're like, "Oh, but no one's listening to me." That's good. Cause you suck right now. So it's okay that no one's listening to you. You shouldn't worry about it. Now's the time for you to find your voice and learn how to actually speak and figure out what people actually want to hear. Number two... So number one is for you to find your voice. Number two is you have to publish long enough for people to find you. Okay? Number one, you're finding your voice. Number two, it's you're publishing long enough for them to find you. And there's a really cool blog post that my buddy, Nathan Barry, wrote on his blog. It's called Endure Long Enough to Get Noticed. I'm going to read it, cause it's one of the most powerful things I could possibly share for you guys. He said, "How many great TV shows have you discovered in season three or later? I started watching Game of Thrones after they had released five seasons. Pat Flynn had released at least 100 episodes of his podcast before I even knew it existed. I discovered Hardcore History years after Dan Carlin started producing it. This is such a common experience. There's so much content being produced that we can't possibly discover it all. So instead, we wait for the best content to float to the surface after time. If step number one in building an audience is to create great content, step number two is to endure long enough to get it noticed. Seth Godin is very generous with his time and will appear in almost any relevant podcast, but you have to have recorded at least 100 episodes first. His filter is creators who have shown they're willing to show up consistently for a long time." Oh, oh, this is so good. Do you guys get this? All right. So step number one, you're doing this, publishing everyday for a year on your chosen platform. I don't care what it is. Okay? Number one reason is for you to find your voice. At first, no one is going to be listening and you're going to suck at it, and that's okay. That's the plan. That's the process. Okay? Number two is you're doing it so that your audience can find you. If you just published three episodes, they're never going to find you. You publish 100, they're going to start finding you. You publish every day for a year, you'll have endured long enough that your people will start finding you. Okay, when I launched my first podcast, it was called Marketing in your Car. And I did the same exercise I'm asking you. I was like, "What am I going to be most comfortable with? What can I be most consistent with?" I was like, "If I do an interview show, I have to have microphones and stuff. I'll never do it because it will be too hard." But I was like, "I'm in my car every day for 10 minutes. I'm just going to record a podcast while I'm driving." So I called it Marketing in your Car podcast. And I knew I'm going to be consistent, and do it at least three times a week, and maybe more. And I had days where I did it every single day. And I did it for years. Now, I was lucky at the beginning. I didn't know how to check my stats. So because of that, I never checked my stats. And so what's amazing is, I think I was three years into publishing my podcast before I learned how to find out if people were actually listening. And I am so grateful I never knew. Cause if I had known that the first 40, 50, 60 episodes had 10 listens each, I probably wouldn't have kept doing it, if I'm completely honest. But now I've done this many. Every episode that I publish gets tens of thousands of downloads. Okay? But I had to keep doing it consistently for long enough for my people to find me. And I do it consistently long enough to find my voice. And so that's the secret to Dream 100. And then, when you have your own platform, now you can go to these people who are your Dream 100, and be like, "Hey, I've got a podcast. Yu want to be on it? Hey, I got a YouTube show. You want to be on it? Hey..." And now you have something of value to provide to them. That's the thing you have to provide your Dream 100 is your platform. That is the big secret. And some of you guys are like, "Russell, do I have to publish if I'm going to get Traffic Secrets?" You don't have to. There's a lot of ways to drive traffic. But I promise you, this will make a very holistic traffic. It gives you the ability to find your voice. It gives you the ability to infiltrate your Dream 100, to build the relationships with people you didn't have the ability to before. In fact, as you read this, it's... This is your journey, right? In your podcast, you're documenting your journey of the result you're trying to get for yourself. And here, you're telling your story along the way. I wish I could go on for two days about this alone. But my job is, I'm documenting my journey. Every single podcast, I'm telling my story. I'm talking about what I'm learning today, where I'm going, what I'm trying to figure out, as you're doing this journey to get a certain result for yourself. So don't think, "I'll start my podcast after I figure it out." No, you start today. Figure out what's the result you're trying to get for yourself. Okay? And then document your journey along the way. Every episode is a documentation. Then, in between here, this is your Dream 100. You're pulling people in and you're interviewing them. You're pulling them in, you're interviewing them, and you're building relationships. You have a chance to interview someone for 30 minutes or an hour on your podcast, on your show, on your video, you build the relationship with your Dream 100 you can't get in any other way. Okay? It opens up so many doors, so many gates, and that is the big secret. So infiltrating your Dream 100, you guys, it all starts with building out your own show. I wish that I could just fly to your house and force you to do it. Most of you won't, but the ones who do are the ones who are going to thrive during this time of economic uncertainty, okay? Your people are waiting for you. They're waiting for your voice. They're waiting for your guidance, your leadership. And unless you start doing it, they're never going to find you. And so they always say... This is an old Chinese proverb. "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is right now." So, today. This is the time you guys. You're sitting around and you're in quarantine. You got a whole weekend to figure it out. Figure out, how do we blog? It's easy. You go to medium.com, create an account. Boom. You can start blogging today. Okay? "I don't know how to start a podcast." There's an app called anchor.fm, I think. It's free or five bucks on your phone. You download it. Boom. You can be podcasting today. Okay? A video, I went to Facebook, I put "Go Live." Boom. I'm live. YouTube, same thing. You don't have to wait. Now is the time. Start publishing, start finding your voice, document your journey towards something that you're trying to create, something you're trying to learn, and just share what you're doing. You don't have to make things highly-produced. You're just talking and telling your stories and what you're learning along the way. And as you do that, two things will happen. Number one, you will find your voice. And number two, you endure long enough that your people will be able to find you. All right, guys, I got to bounce, cause I've got an interview with one of my Dream 100 starting two minutes. Yes, I practice what I preach. So I got to jump off here. If you don't have a copy of your book yet, go to trafficsecrets.com and get it. The hardbounds don't ship till May fifth, but the audiobook is available right now. So go and get it. I highly recommend get the order form bump, which is the audiobook. You can listen, for seven hours, me read this entire book to you. So by this time on Monday, when we're hanging out again, you can have this whole book in your brain and done. All right, I have to go, guys. I start in one minute. Appreciate you all. Thanks for everything, you guys. Start publishing. Now is the time. Your people are waiting for you. Let's go. All right. Thanks, you guys. Talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000 How to Infiltrate Your Dream 100! (TS) full 456 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want your Dream influencers to start promoting you, your business, and your products? It took Russell a decade of relationship building to get some of his biggest influencers.... Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want your Dream influencers to start promoting you, your business, and your products? It took Russell a decade of relationship building to get some of his biggest influencers. But now he's figured out the FORMULA. You'll learn... Why building a platform is the BEST way to infiltrate your Dream 100. How to choose what TYPE of platform you should build. Why you should publish NEW CONTENT every single day for an entire year. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to our fun hangout time in quarantine, every single day. I am trying to set up, I'm sitting in a different spot, so I can actually sit in a chair today, because the last two weeks I've been sitting on the floor and my legs are burning. So we're hanging out a little differently. Hopefully this still works and you guys can all hear me. And right now, we are live on Facebook and Instagram, and I'm excited to be hanging out with you guys today. So, it is Friday. We are a couple of weeks into this whole crazy quarantine now. I think I told you guys, Boise officially got locked down a couple of days ago, which is good for you guys. Means we all get to hang out more often here, and we're going to start sharing more things from the books. And I'm curious, how many guys have had a chance to listen to the entire audiobook? I know that the new Traffic Secrets book doesn't actually ship until May fifth, but the audio book is available. I sat in a theater, or studio actually, for seven days. It took me three days to read the Traffic Secrets book, two days to read the DotCom Secrets, and two days read the Expert Secrets book. I got audiobooks done of all three of the new updated versions, but curious how many guys actually had a chance to listen to the whole thing? I know a bunch of guys were like, "I'm going to buy it. I'm going to get the audio book, and I'm going to listen to the whole thing before tomorrow." So hopefully a bunch of you guys had a chance to listen to it, which would be really fun. So, all right, Chris Baden said, "Me." All right, so, good. If not, it's time to... What are you guys doing? We're sitting around doing nothing anyway. Might as well be listening to sharpen your saw, sharpen your mind, and getting prepared for what's coming next. So, Austin said, "Russell, BJJ or wrestling?" Come on, now. Wrestling is the greatest sport of all time, but BJJ is number two. So, it is good. All right, are you guys excited for today, I'm going to read some more of the book. In fact, we are finishing up section number one today, here inside Traffic Secrets. I'm going to open this thing up. And this is the box set, this is the trilogy. And it's funny, I sent this to Liz Benny, a picture. I'm like, "This is the trilogy." And she's like, "Russell, there's four books. A trilogy only has three." And I was like, "Crap." Well, I'm like, "This is the trilogy, and this is the workbook that goes with the trilogy. So there's four books in a trilogy." I don't know. "Trilogy" sounds cooler. So, there you go. And check this out, if you see the book... Can you guys see the box set? It's really cool. It says, "The Secrets Trilogy by Russell Brunson." On the back, it's got the Dotcom Secrets is the framework, Expert Secrets is the fire, Traffic Secrets is the fuel, and then Unlock Secrets is your playbook. And then this side is a quote, I don't know, it might be backwards for you guys. It says "You're just one funnel away," and then a quote from Garrett White says, "The life you want, the marriage you want, and the family want are going to be fueled by the businesses you build." And so that's kind of what's in the box set. All right. Let's open this up. We're going back in Traffic Secrets. We've been doing this every single day now for almost two weeks, which has been a lot of fun for me. And we're almost to the end. Today we're going to finish up talking about the first section of the book, which is going to be cool. So we've covered a lot of stuff. So section number one in the book is all about... In fact, if you look at the title, section one is called "Your Dream Customer." It's really understanding and mastering your customer. Where are they at? How do we find them? How do we get a hold of them? What are the hooks, the stories, the offers for you to grab their attention, to pull them into your world? Who's already congregated? How do we follow up with those people? All the things we've been talking about. And so, secret number seven is infiltrating the Dream 100. How do you do that? It's going to be really fun. And then next week, we're getting into section number two of the book, which is called "Fill your Funnel." This is now where we started breaking down different networks. We're going to Facebook, Instagram, Google, YouTube, podcasting, and a bunch of other ones. I'll show you guys a pattern of how we dominate all of those. But when you understand the pattern, what's cool about it is we'll give you the ability to dominate anything. Cause you can use this process to dominate TikToks, Twitch, the new platforms coming out next week. Xavier said, "Throwing my wallet on the screen." That's amazing. I love it. I love it. All right. So we're going to Dream 100. So, infiltrating your Dream 100. How do you get into those people? This is the question a lot of people have, cause I've been talking about Dream 100 pretty consistently now for a decade. I tell people, "Build your Dream 100. Go find those people. Network with them, build relationships, get them to promote you." Things like that. And it's funny, because some people hear me say that, and they don't do anything about it. That's the majority of people. Some people hear me, they build the Dream 100 and start contacting, but they never get in with them. They never ask them to do anything. They just kind of start the exercise, but they don't actually finish it. And so this is going to help you guys understand how to finish this exercise. How do you take this Dream 100, and how do you infiltrate it? How do you build relationships? How do you get in with them? So secret number seven, we're on page 104. Those who are following along in your books, which haven't been shipped yet. They ship May fifth though, so you should be getting them about a month from now. You guys should all start getting your books. If you don't have your book yet, or the audiobook, you can go get a free copy at trafficsecrets.com. You just got to cover the shipping, which is not that much money. I think it's under 10 bucks in the U.S., And a little more international. If you go to trafficsecrets.com, you can get it. There's a bunch of amazing videos and you get immediately the bonuses. Plus, the order form bump is the audiobook. So if you want to listen to it this weekend, you can go upgrade your order and get the audiobook, and you can listen to me reading this entire book to you. And yeah, so it's kind of fun. All right. So, infiltrating the Dream 100. So I want to tell you guys a story that I tell in the book. How many of you guys remember the Arsenio Hall Show? How many of you guys are old enough? I turn 40 this year. So, old enough to remember that Arsenio Hall Show. He's the late-night "Who, who." That's Arsenio Hall, right? Now, I remember when I was growing up, my parents would not let me watch the Arsenio Hall Show for whatever reason. I think it was cause it was late-night. But my friend's parents let him watch it all the time. So he'd always talk about it, and he was always doing that thing. And so, I remember he would tell me stories and I always wanted to watch it. I never did, until one night, we had a sleepover at his house and I got to watch the Arsenio Hall Show. It was so cool, because he would run out, and he does this "Who, who, who," and everyone's excited. He's interviewing people, and they're funny people. And it was just this really cool thing. And what's interesting is, I started doing... Oh, actually, this was really funny. After we saw that, that became our thing. That was Arsenio Hall's thing, but that became our thing. We were playing basketball, we'd dunk on someone. We'd play football, catch a touchdown, and like, "Who, who." It became all of our things, right? Oh, someone said that their aunt worked on the show. How cool is that? All right. So, Arsenio Hall Show, at the peak of it, in fact, in June 1992, Bill Clinton, who was running for president at the time, came on the Arsenio Hall Show, played the saxophone. He played the song Heartbreak Hotel, and many people said that one of the main... Not the main reason, but a big reason why President Clinton won the election is because the people who watched Arsenio Hall Show. They said it helped build his popularity among minority and younger voters, which is one of the main... Not main, but one of the major reasons why he won the election. Which is very interesting, right? Anyway, so then two years after that, Arsenio Hall Show gets canceled, right? And then how many guys have heard of Arsenio Hall since then? No one has, right? He disappeared off the face of the planet. What happened? Until a couple years ago in 2012... I can't believe it was 2012. That was really 10 years ago? I don't know what year we're in right now. In quarantine time, I don't remember what year we're in. Anyway, 2012, we're watching Celebrity Apprentice, cause that's what we do. And all of a sudden, Arsenio Hall is one of the contestants on Celebrity Apprentice. Which we're like, "This is amazing," right? So we're watching this whole thing and there was something interesting that happened. So they do different fundraisers on Celebrity Apprentice, things are happening. And then one of the episodes was a fundraiser. And so all the contestants jump on the phone, they're calling all their friends, everyone they know, they're trying to raise money, right? And every single one of the celebrities get on the phone and raise money. Somebody raise 30 grand, some raise hundreds of thousands. Everyone's got different levels of it. A couple of people raised half a million or something. Everybody raised money, except for one contestant. Can you guess which contestant that was? The only contestant that raised not even a penny was Arsenio Hall. And you see the scene, he's on the phone with his address book, and he's calling person after person after person, nobody will return his call. He's like, "Why is nobody returning my calls?" And then at the very end, they tally up, and he's the only one that doesn't get any money. And they showed us a little clip of him in the boardroom or whatever, talking to the camera. And he's all frustrated. And he just looks at it, and he says, "You know what?" He said, "When I had my own show, everybody returned my call." Boom. Okay? Now, most people missed that. But for me, it rang in my head like a bell. When Arsenio Hall had a show, he had a platform. He was able to call anyone on earth, including Bill Clinton, who was currently running for president and say, "Do you want to be on my show, man?" And the next day, Bill Clinton's on his show, playing saxophone, right? He loses his show, loses his platform. No one returns his call. People ask me, "Russell, how in the world did you get in with Tony Robbins and Dean Grasiozi, and all these people?" And I would love to think that the reason why I got in with all these guys is because I'm so nice, or charismatic, or maybe think my haircut's cool, or whatever. Right? And as much as I wish that was the truth, I know, I'm fully aware that the reason why I was able to get into my Dream 100 is because the thing that I have to offer them is my platform. That is what I have to offer people. So when I met Tony, I'm like, "Hey Tony, I've got a whole bunch of entrepreneurs that follow me. Can I interview you? Can I get to know you? Can I..." I met Dean, "Hey Dean, I want to help promote you. Hey Dean, do you want to be on my show? Hey..." And you can name off all the people in my Dream 100, everyone I've tried to get, my platform is the thing that I had to offer my Dream 100. It's the tangible thing that I own, that I control, that provides value to people who are three, or four, or five levels above me. Right? And so, for you, the question is, you're building this Dream 100, and then how are you going to approach them? Like, "Hey, Dream 100, can you do this thing for me? Can you do this thing?" They're going to say "no," right? They have enough things happening in their lives. The thing you have to offer them is your platform, but you've got to have a platform. Right? And so that's this whole secret number seven is about, is building up your platform. So what does your platform look like? Well, for everyone it's going to be different. Some of you guys... In fact, I'm going to do a poll right here. How many of you guys right now who are listening to this love to write? Like, "I love writing. If I could just write all day, I'd be the happiest person in the world." Okay. If you are someone who loves to write, the platform you need to be building is you need to be starting a blog. You should be writing. How many of you guys are like, "Writing sounds like the worst thing on planet earth. I do not want to write ever, but I love to talk." Right? Okay. Maybe for you, you should be starting a podcast. That's the platform. You love talking and speaking, that should be your thing. How many of you guys are like, "I like writing, podcasting, but I love being on video. I want people to see my face. I want them to see my excitement. Oh, this is amazing." For those, you guys should be starting a video channel, a vlog, a YouTube channel, or Instagram, or Facebook, or somewhere. You got to find the spot that you're the most comfortable. Okay? Because if you're not comfortable, you're not going to be consistent with it. That's number one, figuring out, where do you want to build your platform at? Right? And then, you've got to start actually growing it. Okay? And I have a whole bunch of stuff here, I wish I could read all of it to you. Starting on page 112, it's like, how do you find your voice? Because when you first start your own show, it's scary, right? How do you know how to talk? If you listen to the first 40 plus episodes of my podcast, they were really bad. I was shy and awkward, nervous. And people are like, "Russell, you seem like such a natural communicator. How did you become so natural at it?" I became natural because I published 800 episodes of my podcast consistently three to five times a week, every single day for the last eight years. Okay? And I've been on Facebook Live hundreds of times. And I've been on tons of other… I sound natural because I've done it a lot. I found my voice and I continue to try to develop it and make it better. But it's consistency. Okay? Before any of you guys saw me up here talking to you, it was a decade of me putting in the time and the effort of publishing, and finding my voice, and doing it over and over and over again. And so what I want to recommend for all of you guys is you need to pick a platform, whatever one it is, especially now, especially during times when everyone's stressing out. This is your shot, your chance to step up as the leader that your people are looking for, and start talking. Start sharing. Start giving faith and hope and a brighter future for your people. Now is the time. So I want to challenge you guys to figure out... If you're a writer, you're starting a blog, and I would recommend going to medium.com, starting a blog there. If you're a speaker, you're going to start a podcast. If you like video, you can start a video vlog. And I don't care if it's on Facebook Live, YouTube Live, I don't care. Pick a platform and stick with it. And then, I challenge you to publish every single day for the next year. Starting today. Not mañana, starting today. I want you to publish every single day for an entire year. Okay? And at first you're like, "I don't have stuff to talk about for entire year." I get it. Okay? But what's magic is that you start speaking, more things will come to you. Okay? As you open up your mouth, the Lord will bless you with more ideas, more inspiration, more things. As you share, as you give, as you're helping other people, more stuff will come to you. So it's very important to understand that. Okay? So you got to publish every single day for at least a year. And the reason why we do this is a couple of things. Number one, at first, you are going to be very, very bad. Okay? So you need to start publishing to be able to find your voice, this is the big part of it. If you don't start publishing now, you will never find your voice. The reason I'm good today is because eight years ago, I started publishing every single day. Okay? So you start publishing to find your voice. And first you're like, "Oh, but no one's listening to me." That's good. Cause you suck right now. So it's okay that no one's listening to you. You shouldn't worry about it. Now's the time for you to find your voice and learn how to actually speak and figure out what people actually want to hear. Number two... So number one is for you to find your voice. Number two is you have to publish long enough for people to find you. Okay? Number one, you're finding your voice. Number two, it's you're publishing long enough for them to find you. And there's a really cool blog post that my buddy, Nathan Barry, wrote on his blog. It's called Endure Long Enough to Get Noticed. I'm going to read it, cause it's one of the most powerful things I could possibly share for you guys. He said, "How many great TV shows have you discovered in season three or later? I started watching Game of Thrones after they had released five seasons. Pat Flynn had released at least 100 episodes of his podcast before I even knew it existed. I discovered Hardcore History years after Dan Carlin started producing it. This is such a common experience. There's so much content being produced that we can't possibly discover it all. So instead, we wait for the best content to float to the surface after time. If step number one in building an audience is to create great content, step number two is to endure long enough to get it noticed. Seth Godin is very generous with his time and will appear in almost any relevant podcast, but you have to have recorded at least 100 episodes first. His filter is creators who have shown they're willing to show up consistently for a long time." Oh, oh, this is so good. Do you guys get this? All right. So step number one, you're doing this, publishing everyday for a year on your chosen platform. I don't care what it is. Okay? Number one reason is for you to find your voice. At first, no one is going to be listening and you're going to suck at it, and that's okay. That's the plan. That's the process. Okay? Number two is you're doing it so that your audience can find you. If you just published three episodes, they're never going to find you. You publish 100, they're going to start finding you. You publish every day for a year, you'll have endured long enough that your people will start finding you. Okay, when I launched my first podcast, it was called Marketing in your Car. And I did the same exercise I'm asking you. I was like, "What am I going to be most comfortable with? What can I be most consistent with?" I was like, "If I do an interview show, I have to have microphones and stuff. I'll never do it because it will be too hard." But I was like, "I'm in my car every day for 10 minutes. I'm just going to record a podcast while I'm driving." So I called it Marketing in your Car podcast. And I knew I'm going to be consistent, and do it at least three times a week, and maybe more. And I had days where I did it every single day. And I did it for years. Now, I was lucky at the beginning. I didn't know how to check my stats. So because of that, I never checked my stats. And so what's amazing is, I think I was three years into publishing my podcast before I learned how to find out if people were actually listening. And I am so grateful I never knew. Cause if I had known that the first 40, 50, 60 episodes had 10 listens each, I probably wouldn't have kept doing it, if I'm completely honest. But now I've done this many. Every episode that I publish gets tens of thousands of downloads. Okay? But I had to keep doing it consistently for long enough for my people to find me. And I do it consistently long enough to find my voice. And so that's the secret to Dream 100. And then, when you have your own platform, now you can go to these people who are your Dream 100, and be like, "Hey, I've got a podcast. Yu want to be on it? Hey, I got a YouTube show. You want to be on it? Hey..." And now you have something of value to provide to them. That's the thing you have to provide your Dream 100 is your platform. That is the big secret. And some of you guys are like, "Russell, do I have to publish if I'm going to get Traffic Secrets?" You don't have to. There's a lot of ways to drive traffic. But I promise you, this will make a very holistic traffic. It gives you the ability to find your voice. It gives you the ability to infiltrate your Dream 100, to build the relationships with people you didn't have the ability to before. In fact, as you read this, it's... This is your journey, right? In your podcast, you're documenting your journey of the result you're trying to get for yourself. And here, you're telling your story along the way. I wish I could go on for two days about this alone. But my job is, I'm documenting my journey. Every single podcast, I'm telling my story. I'm talking about what I'm learning today, where I'm going, what I'm trying to figure out, as you're doing this journey to get a certain result for yourself. So don't think, "I'll start my podcast after I figure it out." No, you start today. Figure out what's the result you're trying to get for yourself. Okay? And then document your journey along the way. Every episode is a documentation. Then, in between here, this is your Dream 100. You're pulling people in and you're interviewing them. You're pulling them in, you're interviewing them, and you're building relationships. You have a chance to interview someone for 30 minutes or an hour on your podcast, on your show, on your video, you build the relationship with your Dream 100 you can't get in any other way. Okay? It opens up so many doors, so many gates, and that is the big secret. So infiltrating your Dream 100, you guys, it all starts with building out your own show. I wish that I could just fly to your house and force you to do it. Most of you won't, but the ones who do are the ones who are going to thrive during this time of economic uncertainty, okay? Your people are waiting for you. They're waiting for your voice. They're waiting for your guidance, your leadership. And unless you start doing it, they're never going to find you. And so they always say... This is an old Chinese proverb. "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is right now." So, today. This is the time you guys. You're sitting around and you're in quarantine. You got a whole weekend to figure it out. Figure out, how do we blog? It's easy. You go to medium.com, create an account. Boom. You can start blogging today. Okay? "I don't know how to start a podcast." There's an app called anchor.fm, I think. It's free or five bucks on your phone. You download it. Boom. You can be podcasting today. Okay? A video, I went to Facebook, I put "Go Live." Boom. I'm live. YouTube, same thing. You don't have to wait. Now is the time. Start publishing, start finding your voice, document your journey towards something that you're trying to create, something you're trying to learn, and just share what you're doing. You don't have to make things highly-produced. You're just talking and telling your stories and what you're learning along the way. And as you do that, two things will happen. Number one, you will find your voice. And number two, you endure long enough that your people will be able to find you. All right, guys, I got to bounce, cause I've got an interview with one of my Dream 100 starting two minutes. Yes, I practice what I preach. So I got to jump off here. If you don't have a copy of your book yet, go to trafficsecrets.com and get it. The hardbounds don't ship till May fifth, but the audiobook is available right now. So go and get it. I highly recommend get the order form bump, which is the audiobook. You can listen, for seven hours, me read this entire book to you. So by this time on Monday, when we're hanging out again, you can have this whole book in your brain and done. All right, I have to go, guys. I start in one minute. Appreciate you all. Thanks for everything, you guys. Start publishing. Now is the time. Your people are waiting for you. Let's go. All right. Thanks, you guys. Talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast.

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Hey everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to our fun hangout time in quarantine, every single day. I am trying to set up, I'm sitting in a different spot, so I can actually sit in a chair today, because the last two weeks I've been sitting on the floor and my legs are burning. So we're hanging out a little differently. Hopefully this still works and you guys can all hear me. And right now, we are live on Facebook and Instagram, and I'm excited to be hanging out with you guys today. So, it is Friday. We are a couple of weeks into this whole crazy quarantine now. I think I told you guys, Boise officially got locked down a couple of days ago, which is good for you guys. Means we all get to hang out more often here, and we're going to start sharing more things from the books.

And I'm curious, how many guys have had a chance to listen to the entire audiobook? I know that the new Traffic Secrets book doesn't actually ship until May fifth, but the audio book is available. I sat in a theater, or studio actually, for seven days. It took me three days to read the Traffic Secrets book, two days to read the DotCom Secrets, and two days read the Expert Secrets book. I got audiobooks done of all three of the new updated versions, but curious how many guys actually had a chance to listen to the whole thing? I know a bunch of guys were like, "I'm going to buy it. I'm going to get the audio book, and I'm going to listen to the whole thing before tomorrow." So hopefully a bunch of you guys had a chance to listen to it, which would be really fun. So, all right, Chris Baden said, "Me." All right, so, good.

If not, it's time to... What are you guys doing? We're sitting around doing nothing anyway. Might as well be listening to sharpen your saw, sharpen your mind, and getting prepared for what's coming next. So, Austin said, "Russell, BJJ or wrestling?" Come on, now. Wrestling is the greatest sport of all time, but BJJ is number two. So, it is good. All right, are you guys excited for today, I'm going to read some more of the book. In fact, we are finishing up section number one today, here inside Traffic Secrets. I'm going to open this thing up. And this is the box set, this is the trilogy. And it's funny, I sent this to Liz Benny, a picture. I'm like, "This is the trilogy." And she's like, "Russell, there's four books. A trilogy only has three." And I was like, "Crap."

Well, I'm like, "This is the trilogy, and this is the workbook that goes with the trilogy. So there's four books in a trilogy." I don't know. "Trilogy" sounds cooler. So, there you go. And check this out, if you see the book... Can you guys see the box set? It's really cool. It says, "The Secrets Trilogy by Russell Brunson." On the back, it's got the Dotcom Secrets is the framework, Expert Secrets is the fire, Traffic Secrets is the fuel, and then Unlock Secrets is your playbook. And then this side is a quote, I don't know, it might be backwards for you guys. It says "You're just one funnel away," and then a quote from Garrett White says, "The life you want, the marriage you want, and the family want are going to be fueled by the businesses you build." And so that's kind of what's in the box set. All right. Let's open this up.

We're going back in Traffic Secrets. We've been doing this every single day now for almost two weeks, which has been a lot of fun for me. And we're almost to the end. Today we're going to finish up talking about the first section of the book, which is going to be cool. So we've covered a lot of stuff. So section number one in the book is all about... In fact, if you look at the title, section one is called "Your Dream Customer." It's really understanding and mastering your customer. Where are they at? How do we find them? How do we get a hold of them? What are the hooks, the stories, the offers for you to grab their attention, to pull them into your world? Who's already congregated? How do we follow up with those people? All the things we've been talking about. And so, secret number seven is infiltrating the Dream 100.

How do you do that? It's going to be really fun. And then next week, we're getting into section number two of the book, which is called "Fill your Funnel." This is now where we started breaking down different networks. We're going to Facebook, Instagram, Google, YouTube, podcasting, and a bunch of other ones. I'll show you guys a pattern of how we dominate all of those. But when you understand the pattern, what's cool about it is we'll give you the ability to dominate anything. Cause you can use this process to dominate TikToks, Twitch, the new platforms coming out next week. Xavier said, "Throwing my wallet on the screen." That's amazing. I love it. I love it. All right. So we're going to Dream 100. So, infiltrating your Dream 100. How do you get into those people? This is the question a lot of people have, cause I've been talking about Dream 100 pretty consistently now for a decade. I tell people, "Build your Dream 100. Go find those people. Network with them, build relationships, get them to promote you." Things like that.

And it's funny, because some people hear me say that, and they don't do anything about it. That's the majority of people. Some people hear me, they build the Dream 100 and start contacting, but they never get in with them. They never ask them to do anything. They just kind of start the exercise, but they don't actually finish it. And so this is going to help you guys understand how to finish this exercise. How do you take this Dream 100, and how do you infiltrate it? How do you build relationships? How do you get in with them? So secret number seven, we're on page 104. Those who are following along in your books, which haven't been shipped yet.

They ship May fifth though, so you should be getting them about a month from now. You guys should all start getting your books. If you don't have your book yet, or the audiobook, you can go get a free copy at trafficsecrets.com. You just got to cover the shipping, which is not that much money. I think it's under 10 bucks in the U.S., And a little more international. If you go to trafficsecrets.com, you can get it. There's a bunch of amazing videos and you get immediately the bonuses. Plus, the order form bump is the audiobook. So if you want to listen to it this weekend, you can go upgrade your order and get the audiobook, and you can listen to me reading this entire book to you. And yeah, so it's kind of fun. All right. So, infiltrating the Dream 100.

So I want to tell you guys a story that I tell in the book. How many of you guys remember the Arsenio Hall Show? How many of you guys are old enough? I turn 40 this year. So, old enough to remember that Arsenio Hall Show. He's the late-night "Who, who." That's Arsenio Hall, right? Now, I remember when I was growing up, my parents would not let me watch the Arsenio Hall Show for whatever reason. I think it was cause it was late-night. But my friend's parents let him watch it all the time. So he'd always talk about it, and he was always doing that thing. And so, I remember he would tell me stories and I always wanted to watch it. I never did, until one night, we had a sleepover at his house and I got to watch the Arsenio Hall Show.

It was so cool, because he would run out, and he does this "Who, who, who," and everyone's excited. He's interviewing people, and they're funny people. And it was just this really cool thing. And what's interesting is, I started doing... Oh, actually, this was really funny. After we saw that, that became our thing. That was Arsenio Hall's thing, but that became our thing. We were playing basketball, we'd dunk on someone. We'd play football, catch a touchdown, and like, "Who, who." It became all of our things, right? Oh, someone said that their aunt worked on the show. How cool is that? All right. So, Arsenio Hall Show, at the peak of it, in fact, in June 1992, Bill Clinton, who was running for president at the time, came on the Arsenio Hall Show, played the saxophone.

He played the song Heartbreak Hotel, and many people said that one of the main... Not the main reason, but a big reason why President Clinton won the election is because the people who watched Arsenio Hall Show. They said it helped build his popularity among minority and younger voters, which is one of the main... Not main, but one of the major reasons why he won the election. Which is very interesting, right? Anyway, so then two years after that, Arsenio Hall Show gets canceled, right? And then how many guys have heard of Arsenio Hall since then? No one has, right? He disappeared off the face of the planet. What happened? Until a couple years ago in 2012... I can't believe it was 2012. That was really 10 years ago? I don't know what year we're in right now. In quarantine time, I don't remember what year we're in.

Anyway, 2012, we're watching Celebrity Apprentice, cause that's what we do. And all of a sudden, Arsenio Hall is one of the contestants on Celebrity Apprentice. Which we're like, "This is amazing," right? So we're watching this whole thing and there was something interesting that happened. So they do different fundraisers on Celebrity Apprentice, things are happening. And then one of the episodes was a fundraiser. And so all the contestants jump on the phone, they're calling all their friends, everyone they know, they're trying to raise money, right? And every single one of the celebrities get on the phone and raise money. Somebody raise 30 grand, some raise hundreds of thousands. Everyone's got different levels of it. A couple of people raised half a million or something. Everybody raised money, except for one contestant. Can you guess which contestant that was? The only contestant that raised not even a penny was Arsenio Hall.

And you see the scene, he's on the phone with his address book, and he's calling person after person after person, nobody will return his call. He's like, "Why is nobody returning my calls?" And then at the very end, they tally up, and he's the only one that doesn't get any money. And they showed us a little clip of him in the boardroom or whatever, talking to the camera. And he's all frustrated. And he just looks at it, and he says, "You know what?" He said, "When I had my own show, everybody returned my call." Boom.

Okay? Now, most people missed that. But for me, it rang in my head like a bell. When Arsenio Hall had a show, he had a platform. He was able to call anyone on earth, including Bill Clinton, who was currently running for president and say, "Do you want to be on my show, man?" And the next day, Bill Clinton's on his show, playing saxophone, right? He loses his show, loses his platform. No one returns his call. People ask me, "Russell, how in the world did you get in with Tony Robbins and Dean Grasiozi, and all these people?" And I would love to think that the reason why I got in with all these guys is because I'm so nice, or charismatic, or maybe think my haircut's cool, or whatever. Right? And as much as I wish that was the truth, I know, I'm fully aware that the reason why I was able to get into my Dream 100 is because the thing that I have to offer them is my platform.

That is what I have to offer people. So when I met Tony, I'm like, "Hey Tony, I've got a whole bunch of entrepreneurs that follow me. Can I interview you? Can I get to know you? Can I..." I met Dean, "Hey Dean, I want to help promote you. Hey Dean, do you want to be on my show? Hey..." And you can name off all the people in my Dream 100, everyone I've tried to get, my platform is the thing that I had to offer my Dream 100. It's the tangible thing that I own, that I control, that provides value to people who are three, or four, or five levels above me. Right? And so, for you, the question is, you're building this Dream 100, and then how are you going to approach them? Like, "Hey, Dream 100, can you do this thing for me? Can you do this thing?" They're going to say "no," right? They have enough things happening in their lives. The thing you have to offer them is your platform, but you've got to have a platform. Right?

And so that's this whole secret number seven is about, is building up your platform. So what does your platform look like? Well, for everyone it's going to be different. Some of you guys... In fact, I'm going to do a poll right here. How many of you guys right now who are listening to this love to write? Like, "I love writing. If I could just write all day, I'd be the happiest person in the world." Okay. If you are someone who loves to write, the platform you need to be building is you need to be starting a blog. You should be writing. How many of you guys are like, "Writing sounds like the worst thing on planet earth. I do not want to write ever, but I love to talk." Right? Okay. Maybe for you, you should be starting a podcast. That's the platform. You love talking and speaking, that should be your thing. How many of you guys are like, "I like writing, podcasting, but I love being on video. I want people to see my face. I want them to see my excitement. Oh, this is amazing."

For those, you guys should be starting a video channel, a vlog, a YouTube channel, or Instagram, or Facebook, or somewhere. You got to find the spot that you're the most comfortable. Okay? Because if you're not comfortable, you're not going to be consistent with it. That's number one, figuring out, where do you want to build your platform at? Right? And then, you've got to start actually growing it. Okay? And I have a whole bunch of stuff here, I wish I could read all of it to you.

Starting on page 112, it's like, how do you find your voice? Because when you first start your own show, it's scary, right? How do you know how to talk? If you listen to the first 40 plus episodes of my podcast, they were really bad. I was shy and awkward, nervous. And people are like, "Russell, you seem like such a natural communicator. How did you become so natural at it?" I became natural because I published 800 episodes of my podcast consistently three to five times a week, every single day for the last eight years. Okay? And I've been on Facebook Live hundreds of times. And I've been on tons of other… I sound natural because I've done it a lot. I found my voice and I continue to try to develop it and make it better.

But it's consistency. Okay? Before any of you guys saw me up here talking to you, it was a decade of me putting in the time and the effort of publishing, and finding my voice, and doing it over and over and over again. And so what I want to recommend for all of you guys is you need to pick a platform, whatever one it is, especially now, especially during times when everyone's stressing out. This is your shot, your chance to step up as the leader that your people are looking for, and start talking. Start sharing. Start giving faith and hope and a brighter future for your people. Now is the time. So I want to challenge you guys to figure out... If you're a writer, you're starting a blog, and I would recommend going to medium.com, starting a blog there.

If you're a speaker, you're going to start a podcast. If you like video, you can start a video vlog. And I don't care if it's on Facebook Live, YouTube Live, I don't care. Pick a platform and stick with it. And then, I challenge you to publish every single day for the next year. Starting today. Not mañana, starting today. I want you to publish every single day for an entire year. Okay? And at first you're like, "I don't have stuff to talk about for entire year." I get it. Okay? But what's magic is that you start speaking, more things will come to you. Okay? As you open up your mouth, the Lord will bless you with more ideas, more inspiration, more things. As you share, as you give, as you're helping other people, more stuff will come to you. So it's very important to understand that. Okay? So you got to publish every single day for at least a year.

And the reason why we do this is a couple of things. Number one, at first, you are going to be very, very bad. Okay? So you need to start publishing to be able to find your voice, this is the big part of it. If you don't start publishing now, you will never find your voice. The reason I'm good today is because eight years ago, I started publishing every single day. Okay? So you start publishing to find your voice. And first you're like, "Oh, but no one's listening to me." That's good. Cause you suck right now. So it's okay that no one's listening to you. You shouldn't worry about it. Now's the time for you to find your voice and learn how to actually speak and figure out what people actually want to hear. Number two... So number one is for you to find your voice.

Number two is you have to publish long enough for people to find you. Okay? Number one, you're finding your voice. Number two, it's you're publishing long enough for them to find you. And there's a really cool blog post that my buddy, Nathan Barry, wrote on his blog. It's called Endure Long Enough to Get Noticed. I'm going to read it, cause it's one of the most powerful things I could possibly share for you guys. He said, "How many great TV shows have you discovered in season three or later? I started watching Game of Thrones after they had released five seasons. Pat Flynn had released at least 100 episodes of his podcast before I even knew it existed. I discovered Hardcore History years after Dan Carlin started producing it. This is such a common experience. There's so much content being produced that we can't possibly discover it all.

So instead, we wait for the best content to float to the surface after time. If step number one in building an audience is to create great content, step number two is to endure long enough to get it noticed. Seth Godin is very generous with his time and will appear in almost any relevant podcast, but you have to have recorded at least 100 episodes first. His filter is creators who have shown they're willing to show up consistently for a long time." Oh, oh, this is so good. Do you guys get this? All right. So step number one, you're doing this, publishing everyday for a year on your chosen platform. I don't care what it is. Okay? Number one reason is for you to find your voice. At first, no one is going to be listening and you're going to suck at it, and that's okay. That's the plan.

That's the process. Okay? Number two is you're doing it so that your audience can find you. If you just published three episodes, they're never going to find you. You publish 100, they're going to start finding you. You publish every day for a year, you'll have endured long enough that your people will start finding you. Okay, when I launched my first podcast, it was called Marketing in your Car. And I did the same exercise I'm asking you. I was like, "What am I going to be most comfortable with? What can I be most consistent with?" I was like, "If I do an interview show, I have to have microphones and stuff. I'll never do it because it will be too hard." But I was like, "I'm in my car every day for 10 minutes. I'm just going to record a podcast while I'm driving." So I called it Marketing in your Car podcast.

And I knew I'm going to be consistent, and do it at least three times a week, and maybe more. And I had days where I did it every single day. And I did it for years. Now, I was lucky at the beginning. I didn't know how to check my stats. So because of that, I never checked my stats. And so what's amazing is, I think I was three years into publishing my podcast before I learned how to find out if people were actually listening. And I am so grateful I never knew. Cause if I had known that the first 40, 50, 60 episodes had 10 listens each, I probably wouldn't have kept doing it, if I'm completely honest. But now I've done this many. Every episode that I publish gets tens of thousands of downloads. Okay? But I had to keep doing it consistently for long enough for my people to find me.

And I do it consistently long enough to find my voice. And so that's the secret to Dream 100. And then, when you have your own platform, now you can go to these people who are your Dream 100, and be like, "Hey, I've got a podcast. Yu want to be on it? Hey, I got a YouTube show. You want to be on it? Hey..." And now you have something of value to provide to them. That's the thing you have to provide your Dream 100 is your platform. That is the big secret. And some of you guys are like, "Russell, do I have to publish if I'm going to get Traffic Secrets?" You don't have to. There's a lot of ways to drive traffic. But I promise you, this will make a very holistic traffic. It gives you the ability to find your voice. It gives you the ability to infiltrate your Dream 100, to build the relationships with people you didn't have the ability to before.

In fact, as you read this, it's... This is your journey, right? In your podcast, you're documenting your journey of the result you're trying to get for yourself. And here, you're telling your story along the way. I wish I could go on for two days about this alone. But my job is, I'm documenting my journey. Every single podcast, I'm telling my story. I'm talking about what I'm learning today, where I'm going, what I'm trying to figure out, as you're doing this journey to get a certain result for yourself. So don't think, "I'll start my podcast after I figure it out." No, you start today. Figure out what's the result you're trying to get for yourself. Okay? And then document your journey along the way. Every episode is a documentation. Then, in between here, this is your Dream 100.

You're pulling people in and you're interviewing them. You're pulling them in, you're interviewing them, and you're building relationships. You have a chance to interview someone for 30 minutes or an hour on your podcast, on your show, on your video, you build the relationship with your Dream 100 you can't get in any other way. Okay? It opens up so many doors, so many gates, and that is the big secret. So infiltrating your Dream 100, you guys, it all starts with building out your own show. I wish that I could just fly to your house and force you to do it. Most of you won't, but the ones who do are the ones who are going to thrive during this time of economic uncertainty, okay? Your people are waiting for you. They're waiting for your voice. They're waiting for your guidance, your leadership. And unless you start doing it, they're never going to find you.

And so they always say... This is an old Chinese proverb. "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is right now." So, today. This is the time you guys. You're sitting around and you're in quarantine. You got a whole weekend to figure it out. Figure out, how do we blog? It's easy. You go to medium.com, create an account. Boom. You can start blogging today. Okay? "I don't know how to start a podcast." There's an app called anchor.fm, I think. It's free or five bucks on your phone. You download it. Boom. You can be podcasting today. Okay? A video, I went to Facebook, I put "Go Live." Boom. I'm live. YouTube, same thing. You don't have to wait. Now is the time. Start publishing, start finding your voice, document your journey towards something that you're trying to create, something you're trying to learn, and just share what you're doing. You don't have to make things highly-produced. You're just talking and telling your stories and what you're learning along the way.

And as you do that, two things will happen. Number one, you will find your voice. And number two, you endure long enough that your people will be able to find you. All right, guys, I got to bounce, cause I've got an interview with one of my Dream 100 starting two minutes. Yes, I practice what I preach. So I got to jump off here. If you don't have a copy of your book yet, go to trafficsecrets.com and get it. The hardbounds don't ship till May fifth, but the audiobook is available right now. So go and get it. I highly recommend get the order form bump, which is the audiobook. You can listen, for seven hours, me read this entire book to you. So by this time on Monday, when we're hanging out again, you can have this whole book in your brain and done. All right, I have to go, guys. I start in one minute. Appreciate you all. Thanks for everything, you guys. Start publishing. Now is the time. Your people are waiting for you. Let's go. All right. Thanks, you guys. Talk soon.

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]]> 1310 no The Follow-Up Funnel (Where Money Is ACTUALLY Made!) (TS) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-follow-up-funnel-where-money-is-actually-made-ts Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to exponentially increase how much money you make on every new lead? Well... for every $1 Russell makes on the front-end funnel, he makes $16 with his follow-up funnel over the next 30 days. On this episode, you're going to learn... Why you should be willing to spend up to $3 to acquire a new lead (IF you have a follow-up funnel). The 3 closes that every sales page MUST have. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Follow-Up Funnel (Where Money Is ACTUALLY Made!) (TS) full 455 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to exponentially increase how much money you make on every new lead? Well... for every $1 Russell makes on the front-end funnel, he makes $16 with his follow-up funnel... Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to exponentially increase how much money you make on every new lead? Well... for every $1 Russell makes on the front-end funnel, he makes $16 with his follow-up funnel over the next 30 days. On this episode, you're going to learn... Why you should be willing to spend up to $3 to acquire a new lead (IF you have a follow-up funnel). The 3 closes that every sales page MUST have. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast.

Want to exponentially increase how much money you make on every new lead? Well... for every $1 Russell makes on the front-end funnel, he makes $16 with his follow-up funnel over the next 30 days. On this episode, you're going to learn...

  • Why you should be willing to spend up to $3 to acquire a new lead (IF you have a follow-up funnel).
  • The 3 closes that every sales page MUST have.

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]]> 1594 no How To OWN Your Traffic (AKA Build Your Own List!) (TS) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-own-your-traffic-aka-build-your-own-list-ts Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want FULL ACCESS to your dream customers? What if you didn't need permission from Facebook or Google to talk to your dream customers? On this episode, you'll learn... Why your email list should be your NUMBER ONE growth metric. How Russell made his first $70 by building an email list illegally. How to convert ANY website visitor into traffic that you OWN and never have to pay for again. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to our chance every day where we get to hangout and talk about traffic and funnels and all of the fun things. Excited to be with you guys here today. It's actually kind of cool be in this whole quarantine thing. Where outside everything looks normal and it's this weird, eerie feeling. But then inside we can hangout and be with our family, our friends, we can go live, we can share thoughts, ideas. I think this has been a really cool time for so many people to start sharpening their saw, and starting to get smarter and better about what they're doing and why their doing it and how they're doing it and all kind of stuff. So I'm excited to be here with you guys today. We're going to be talking more about traffic secrets. Today we're going to be covering the third type of traffic. Yesterday we talked about the first two types of traffic. Traffic that you control, traffic that you earned and then today we're talking about the third type, which is traffic that you... you guys know what it is? Traffic that you own. That's the best kind of traffic. So we're going to be going to that in here a few seconds. But while we're waiting for everybody to jump on and get here, I want to make sure you guys know that we're in the middle of the traffic series book launch, which is kind of fun. We've been selling books like crazy. This is the highest numbering funnel we've done so far. So for my funnel hackers, if you're going through the funnel make sure to buy slowly and watch the process and see what's happening and why it's happening because it's doing really, really well. You can go to trafficsecrets.com. This is it right here. There's the video. In fact, you watch the video, I'm very proud of the video, hopefully you'll learn some stuff just from watching that. You can see the offers, you can buy the book for free, just cover shipping and handling, it's 9.95 shipping in the U.S., a little bit more internationally, but you can go get that there. Scroll down you can see the sales pitch. This is a chance, look at what I'm doing, you guys. I spent two years writing the book and about the same amount of time brainstorming this funnel and getting it live and ready. It is over 20,000 books sold and it's kept a $63 average cart value, which is insane. Especially knowing that a lot of you guys are my funnel hackers. You're like, "I bough the book six times. I want to get everybody's bonuses." With that said, to be able to keep the average cart value that high I would say the real average cart value, if I were to pull out all the duplicates, the average is probably 80 plus dollars, which is insane. Most book funnels are 20 to 30 bucks max. The funnels are awesome, so make sure to go watch it, buy slowly, learn some stuff while you're doing it. You just go to trafficsecrets.com. For those of you that are extra bored, especially if you're bored with your kids, right here is funnelflix.com. And if you go to funnelflix.com, you can get a free premiere week. Which basically you go in there, and you get a bunch of video for free. Including the very first one, which is from, I don't know if you can see it right there, that is Frank Kern... this is Frank Kern right here. He spoke at Funnel Hacking Live. Nobody knew he was coming, we kept it a surprise and he came out and people lost their mind. Frank is one of the original OGs. When I was learning internet marketing, Frank was one of the dudes teaching it. You can actually go and literally go watch his presentation online for free, bunch of other ones as well. Julius, I hear he's got 5,000,000 followers on Instagram. He walks you how he does it, how he did it. You get that one for free. You get one from me for free. Anyway if you go to funnelflix.com you get Funnel Flix premiere week for free. Then if you go over here to trafficsecrets.com, you get Traffic Secrets for free. So anyway, that's what's happening. All right with that said, you guys, we got a full audience between Instagram we're about 160 people, Facebook we're at 155-ish, so we've got 300 people here. We can start this party and get started and it should be fun. Lionel said, "I think I found my ADD community." Yes, welcome to the ADD-nis. All right. Okay, so today we're talking again about Traffic Secrets. If you don't have your free copy of the book, go to trafficsecrets.com. And this is the box set with all the books. If you don't know anything about me, these are the books I've written. Dotcom Secrets is the first book. This is the new updated hardbound version. This is Expert Secrets is the second book. And Traffic Seekers is the third and final book in the trilogy. And Unlock the Secrets is this amazing workbook that goes with all of these books here. It's kind of fun. Anyhoo, let me pull out book number one. All right, the Traffic Secrets book. So here we go, Traffic Secrets. Today we're going to be going into one of the secrets. Brian saying, "How do you get the box set?" The box set is not for sale right now unless after you get the Traffic Secrets book the upsale may or may not be the box set. This is all pre-order, these aren't shipped till May 5th. But the audio books are available today. I spent three days in the studio reading the Traffic Secrets book. It's a seven hour audio, you can go and get that. It's for the order form bump. You can grab that, plug it in and start listening, which is kind of cool. Also, we've got the audio books of the Dotcom Expert Secrets new update as well as part of the sales funnel. If you go through the funnel, you'll see all the cool stuff. So you just got to go to trafficsecrets.com and slowly today go through the funnel and have some fun with it. Reesio said, "How is my quarantine?" It's been good. We're having a good time. I think I'm driving my kids crazy sometimes, they're driving me crazy sometimes, but as a whole, we're doing really good. Thank you for asking. All right, hope you guys are all doing as well, good as well. My job for the next 25 minutes or so is to entertain you, get you excited, inspire you, open your mind to how to get traffic. What you do with traffic, how it all works. I've been doing these live on Instagram and Facebook every day for the last two weeks, so if you missed any of them feel free to go back there. We may or may not also be launching a Traffic Secrets podcast that'll have the recordings of these too. That may be live in the next day or so, I'll let you guys know and then you can start listening in there as well, which will be kind of cool. All right, here we go, Traffic Secrets. So what we covered so far. Section number one is all about your dream customer. Secret One we figure out who's your dream customer. We talked about figuring out and understanding them at a deep level. Figuring out are they moving towards pleasure or away from pain? What's interesting in this market today, I think two weeks ago a majority of customers were moving towards pleasure. Which meant your ads, your advertising is all focused on grabbing people or trying to move towards pleasure. Over the last two weeks, people are in pain and they're now in a state where they're moving away from pain. Looking at that lens, most of our advertising and marketing should be shifting from speaking to them moving towards pleasure to speaking to them moving away from pain. So there's a little hint from Section number one. We also talked about the difference between a searcher and a scroller. What advertising networks people are searching, which ones they're scrolling and how you differentiate your ads and your landing pages and everything based on if they're a searcher or a scroller, the pros and the cons. That was all secret number one. Number two we talked about now you know who they are. Where are they hiding? Where are they congregating? We've got to find those pockets of our dream customers so we can go and target them. We also talked about then who's already congregated and who are our dream 100? And we built the list of our dream 100. After that, secret number three, we talked about hook story offer. How do we throw our hooks in the water to grab their attention and we tell the story to increase perceived value of what it is we're selling them and then how we make them an offer. And secret number four. Yesterday we talked about with your dream 100 how do you work your way in and how do you buy your way in? And that's what brings us today. Today we're talking about secret number five, which is traffic that you own. So I'm going to jump right there, we're going to go through that. This is the best type of traffic of all the types of traffic that are out there. So many things I have to gloss through because this book is super huge and I can't just cover every... make sure you still get the book and read it because there's so many things, like in here, just in the last chapter, I walk through five of our front end funnels. I'll show you the stats, numbers, every single funnel, how it works. I talk about how much you spend on traffic, how much on ads. I give you very detailed numbers. It's like six pages of the numbers of the funnel that you can get inside the book and look at and say, okay, here's the product. How much is it sold for? Here's the order form bump. Here's the commissions, the percentages, here's how it all worked. I breakdown every funnel in great detail. Those are all things I can't do on a live like this that you get inside the book. Okay. Secret number five, traffic that you own. So if you look at the image here, you can see here is the dream 100, right. If you've done this exercise with me over the last couple days, here's Facebook, here's all the people that have already congregated my dream customers on Facebook. Here's Instagram, here's a lot of people that have already congregated in my dream customers Instagram. On Facebook, on YouTube, on Google, we find those people, we have our dream 100 list. Now we're trying to figure out from yesterday how do I work my way in and how do I buy my way into these audiences, okay? Because that's where are traffic's already at, we're just trying to work out way and buy our way in into the audiences. And then from there, this is what this whole secret's about: Traffic v. Yield. So all the time we're getting traffic, our goal's not to get traffic to sell products, our goal is to get traffic where we're either getting traffic that we've earned or traffic we control and we're converting it into traffic that we own. That's the big secret, okay. So, for example, traffic that I earn. If I'm earning traffic, it means I'm going out and I'm working for it, right. I'm getting on podcast interviews, I'm doing Facebook lives with people. I'm getting somebody to promote my product for me. This is stuff I'm not paying for, but I'm earning it, I'm putting in the time and the energy and the effort, okay. Traffic I control is I go to Facebook, right. And I don't own Facebook ads, right? Mark Zuckerberg, he owns all that traffic on Facebook, but he allows me and you to go to him and say, "Hey, I want to control some of that traffic. I will pay you if you let me divert some of that traffic from Facebook over into my funnel," okay? It's the traffic you control. There's traffic that I earn, I'm working my way in. There's traffic that I control, where I'm buying my way in. Now the goal of both those traffic sources is not just to sell a product. This is where most people get it wrong. This is the very shortsightedness of almost all entrepreneurs. They're like, "Oh, cool, I bought traffic from Facebook. I'm going to sell my product." Yes, that's part of the goal, but the bigger goal, the overarching strategy is to convert traffic that you earn and traffic that you control into traffic that you own. When you own traffic, you own your own destiny, right? If Facebook shutdown tomorrow, I'd be okay because I have an email list of, I don't know, one and a half to almost 2,000,000 people. So I own that traffic. Any day I can wake up like, "I want to send traffic to this." I can send an email and, boom, traffic goes there. I launch a new book, I want to send traffic here. Because I own that traffic, I own this ball of traffic, I can send it to this page or this page or that page. I can send it wherever I want because I own that traffic, okay? So all the other things I'm doing, all the other exercises of buying ads and working my way into doing podcast interviews and all those things, the only goal of those things is to convert the traffic that I'm controlling and then buying, or that I'm earning and controlling, into traffic that I own, because then I control my own destiny. For me, for the last few years, I've been working on that. For the last decade and a half I've been building my list, building my following, it's traffic that I own now. Even if Facebook disappears, if Google goes away tomorrow, I'm still going to be in business because I own traffic, okay? And that's the mindset shift of what you guys are all having, that you need to understand that you want to be able to own that traffic, okay? So that's what this whole secret's about, owning traffic. When I first kind of started understanding this, let's see... When I first started understanding this, it was back early in my journey. One of my first mentors was a guy named Mark Joiner. Some of you guys know Mark, he's amazing. He's the one who kept telling me, "Russ, we have to focus on building a list, building a list, that's the secret to internet marketing. Building a list, building a list." And I remember at the time there were all these people that were doing different ways to make money. And I was so grateful that my first mentor told me, "You have to build lists, you have to build lists," because that thing has saved me now for a decade and a half. During the ups and downs of the trials of my business and the safe parts of my business. Having a list has helped me to endure. The people who have email lists right now, are the ones who are going to thrive during this whole crazy recession and depression, whatever ends up happening. I don't even know what's going to happen. But those people are surviving because they're prepared for that, right? It's very important to understand that. Let's see. There's so many things I could share with you guys. Just get the book and read it, it's so good! Anyway. Okay. Oh, there's a story in here, but the story's four pages long. Part of me wants to read it, and part of me is like if I read that I'd lose half of you guys. I'll tell you the gist of the story and I'll read one part of it. So this was the day that I learned about list-building, the day it really got sunk in my head. I was like, "Oh my gosh, I need an email list," right? In fact, I told this story yesterday on an interview with Jim Edwards, it was kind of fun. All right, when I first started learning about this whole game of internet marketing, I started hearing people talk about email list. I remember reading and article online and it was about... sometimes you hear about the gurus and they make $30,000 in a weekend and you think it's scam, right? And the guy's like, "No, it's not a scam. Let me explain how this whole thing works." And he explained, he said, "The gurus, whatever you want to call them, they have an email list of maybe 10,000 people, or 30, or a 100,000 people." He said, "All they do is an email out to a 100,000 people and if they send an email to a 100,000 people and they get 10,000 people who actually go and sign up for the thing," right. "Say you send an email to 100,000 people, 10,000 people open the email, 5,000 click through to the thing, and then 500 of those people actually buy the product and let's say it's a $20 product, you just made 10 grand or 30 grand, whatever the math is," right. And he's just like, "It's just a numbers game." He said, "The reason why these gurus make a ton of money is because they spent the last X amount of time building up these huge email lists, right, traffic that they own." And when I read that I was like, "Oh my gosh," it was the epiphany and all of a sudden I understood." I was like, "I need my own email list." I didn't know how to get an email list. So the first thing I did was I jumped on Mr. Google. I said, "How do you get an email list?" And I started searching around and within a few minutes I found this website. I can't remember the domain exactly, I think it was spam for emailaddresses.com. I was like, "Sweet, that's what I need, spam for email addresses." So I went and there was some DVDs where you could buy a DVD with a 100,000 email addresses, one with 500,000, one with a 1,000,000. I'm like, "Well, if I'm going to get an email list, I want a 1,000,000." So I spent 70 bucks and bought a DVD with a million email addresses on it. I waited for it to get sent to me, I get this thing with 70,000,000 email addresses. I'm like, "I'm going to be rich." I'm doing the math in my head. Send an email to a 1,000,000 people, if I get a 100,000 to open, 10,000 to click, 5,000 to buy the thing times $20. If I could send an email every single day, I'm going to be rich. I'm doing the math in my head, I'm trying to explain to my wife, we'd just gotten married at the time. "You can literally quit your job tomorrow. We are going to be rich. I figured out the secret of internet marketing. This is going to be so easy." So I took this DVD, and back then the way we sent emails was different. It wasn't through an email auto responder, you had to buy desktop software. So I bought the software, I put it on my desktop and I uploaded the DVD with a 100,000,000 people's email addresses. I wrote an email and I remember that night, about to go to bed. And you have to remember this was almost 15 years ago. It was, no, probably 16-17 years ago. Anyway, it was before we have high speed internet, before we had cell phones, things like that. If you remember the internet back then, usually you had one phone line and it was your phone or your modem. So I had to crawl under my desk, unplug the phone and plug in my modem, get online. I remember that night writing an email, clicking send and then telling my wife I was like, "We'll be rich by morning. You can literally quit your job tomorrow." And I remember sitting there watching the email software, boom, one email sent, two emails sent, three, four. I'm like, "Oh, this is amazing!" I go to bed that night and I'm like a kid at Christmas time, laying there in bed thinking about it. Every couple of hours I get out of bed and run in, move the mouse to get my screensaver off and 600 sent, 800 sent, 2000 sent. I'm just freaking out, right? So finally the next morning I wake up, my wife's getting ready for work, I'm getting ready for school. And I sneak back in the room where the computer's at, I look at it. And overnight we'd sent, I think we'd sent 6500 emails or something like that during the night. And I was like, "Dang it, I thought I was going to send a million overnight. It's going way slower than I thought." Then Colette was like, "I need to use the phone." I'm like, "You have to use the phone? You don't understand, we're printing cash right now, we cannot use the phone." She's like, "I have to use the phone. I have to call someone at work." So I crawl under the desk, I go and unplug the modem, I plug back in the phone and as soon as I plug it in, I'm still under the desk, I hear the phone ring, brrg. I get out, I pick up the phone and on the other end was my internet service provider yelling at me and screaming at me and cursing me out. Telling me how many spam complaints that they got in the last four or five hours. They're shutting me down and they're going to potentially file a lawsuit and all this stuff. I just like, oh, crap, and I totally freaked out. Finally, the guy hangs up on me, shuts off my internet. I hang up the phone and Colette's like, "Who's that on the phone?" I'm like, "Uh, nobody. Oh, and by the way, please don't quit today. Just wait it out a couple days." She kind of laughs at me. Anyway, she goes to work and that day I'm kind of bummed out. I'm licking my wounds and I go and I put my backpack on and I'm walking to school. I get to school and I'm super bummed out because I lost internet. I can't even check my email, I've no internet right now. I go into the computer lab at school and I check my emails. I said I felt like, "I wonder if anybody bought anything?" So I logged into my PayPal account like I did many times prior, and every time I logged into PayPal in the past, there's always a big zero on top. How much money did you make? Zero dollars. I'm like, "Ah." And I logged in this time and guess what? It didn't say zero. First time ever, it said 70. I was like, "What?" I was like, "I made 70 bucks." The way I did it apparently was illegal, but I did it, I made 70 bucks. This actually works! And it was the proof I needed. This whole thing actually works. This whole idea of having a list works. I did it the wrong way, but there's got to be a right way to do this. So it started me on this journey of I have to figure out the legitimate way to build the email list because other people are doing it. I got a little taste of it, I made 70 bucks the wrong way so I got to figure out the right way. So I started this journey of I have to learn how to build a list, have to learn how to build the list. That became my obsession for the next decade of my life and it's still an obsession today, which is why I have a big email list, because I focus on it. In fact, every single day we have a company-wide meeting. We call it the Click Funnels Pulse Meeting. And one of the stats we share every single day is how many people joined our list yesterday? That's the number we're looking at. It's a metric, it's a KPI in our company. How many people today joined your list? It was interesting for all of you guys who are watching this, if you're not looking at that metric daily, your list probably isn't growing. I've seen some people who have a business, they'll grow a list and they get 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 people on the list and then they stop and go, "Oh, I got a list." And they send emails to the list and they're making money so their fine. But what happens is that list will start to atrophy over time, get smaller, smaller and eventually your business just disappears and dies. Your focus point is you need to consistently, continually always be building your list. That should be the number one metric. You wake up every morning, how many people joined my list yesterday? How many joined yesterday? I remember the first time I got that, one of my friends, Dagen Smith, he told me that. He asked me, "How many people a day join your email list?" I'm like, "I don't know." He's like, "You don't know that number?" "I mean people are joining, but I don't look at that." He's like, "Dude, what you watch, what you measure grows." And so I was like, "Okay. I'm going to start looking it." I started looking at it. I remember at the time there's probably 60-70 people a day joining my list, and so I started watching it. And what's crazy is I started looking at the numbers every single day, it started making me upset in my head. "Ah, only 70 people." Then your subconscious mind starts looking for ways. "Well, how do I make this bigger? How do I make it bigger?" As I'm sitting there thinking how to make it bigger, new ideas pop in my head. Then I morph from 70 a day to 100 a day to a 150 a day, and 500 a day to a 1,000 a day, to 2,000 a day. And it became the focal point of my business. For all you guys, when you start getting this book, that's what I talk about. All the things you're doing, from traffic you control, the traffic you're buying, the traffic that you're earning, the goal of all that traffic is just to convert into traffic that you own, which is your list. Your list is the key. If you look at, "What's the biggest secret of the Russ Brunson's internet marketing?" Your list is the key. You need to be building your list. That's the big aha, okay? You have to understand that. All the things I'm doing, from Facebook live to videos, to podcast interviews, to buying ads, the goal of all the thing is to build my list. And the key metric, the KPI I look at every single day, the most important one of my business for me, is how many people today joined my list? Okay. So all you guys need to be focusing on that. That's the big thing. Someone said, "What software do you use?" I use this weird software called Click Funnels. Click Funnels builds my list, it does everything. All right. That's the big thing to understand. Okay. So there's my little tangent, the way to understand, it's the traffic that you own, okay? And I told you that story already. When I'm doing all this stuff, when I'm buying ads, when I'm earning traffic, the goal of both of those is to get into traffic that I own, right? So when I'm on a podcast interview, I'm doing a podcast and I'm earning traffic while I'm there and being interviewed. At the end of it what do I say? At the end of it I'm like, "Hey, by the way, I got this cool new book called Traffic Secrets. Go to trafficsecrets.com to get a free copy." People go to trafficsecrets.com, they click on the button, they put in their what? Email address. Then what happens? They join my list. Oh. That's the goal. If I do the podcast interviews, not just do an interview. I do an interview the interview's not like that's okay. Yeah, I want to sell copies of the book, but the only reason I'm trying to sell copies of the book is I want you on my email list because that's the game, okay? Hopefully, that helps you understand that. So all the traffic you're buying, all the traffic your earning is all going into one spot where you can build an email list because that's the secret of internet marketing. If you look at these, some of you guys have already seen this. This is one of my squeeze pages, okay. If you go to marketingsecrets.com/blackbook, this is one. This lead page alone has generated over 300,000 leads for me. 300,000 leads, okay, boom. This is where my book funnels. The goal of it is to get somebody to join the email list. I'm sending people from all these places to spots. You notice that every page I send somebody to, like right now I sent you to trafficsecrets.com. When you go there, guess what happens if you click on the button? You join my list. I send you to funnelsclick.com, you go there you get this free stuff or I give you this bait to go watch Frank Kern's presentation, Julius', and mine, right. It's four hours of free video, but what happens if you watch those videos? You give me your email address. Now you join my list. I'm working my way right now to you guys, right. We'll then buy ads to this video, which I'll be buying my way in, but the goal of all of them is to get you on my email list, right? I've been telling you you got two email lists today. That's my goal. I'm trying to convert all this traffic that I'm earning, right, I'm earning it, right. We've still got 160 viewers on Instagram, we got 185 in Facebook. We'll push these things live over the next two or three weeks. We'll probably get, I don't know, 50 to 100,000 people to watch this video. From that, hopefully, I'll get, I don't know, 20-30,000 people to join my list from it. That's why I'm doing these exercises, okay. That's why we do all this stuff. So I hope you guys understand that. Okay, one more thing I'll talk about list-building, just to give you guys some metrics to make this really tangible for you and then we'll wrap it for today. When I got started, I had one of my friends, who's actually Mike Filsaime, I love Mike. Mike told me, he said, "You should average, on average you should make at least one dollar per month, per name on your email list." And I didn't know if that was high or low. It's actually really low. You should make more than that, but this is a really good baseline, right? So what that means, let's say you got a 100 people on your email list. You should average one dollar per month, per name on your email list. So I got a 100 people on my email list, I should make at least a 100 bucks a month from those people. I got a 1,000 people on my email list, I should be making a 1,000 bucks a month. If I've got 50,000 people on my email list, I should make 50,000 a month and so on and so forth, right? And for you guys who are starting your business, you're growing your company, you're like, "How do I grow my company?" That's the big secret. How many people are on your email list right now? If I ask you and you're I don't know, then you don't have a business. You're goofing around, okay. Engagement on Instagram does not count as an email list, right? The goal of engagement on Instagram is to get people to go to your email list and join your list, right? That's the tangible business that we're in. I remember he told me that, I was like okay. So I started at that point, it was my very first product called Zip Brander and I had it top of my list. I started driving traffic to it. I remember the very first month I got 217 people. Isn't funny you remember some random numbers like that? 217 people joined my email list that very first month. In that month, I think I made $300 in sales. I was like, okay, that's a little more than a one dollar per name. I'm going to keep focusing. I took that money that I made, I reinvested it back into more traffic. I got more people in and in month number two I had 600 people on my list. That month I made like 800 bucks. I was like, uh. So I reinvested that 800 bucks back into ads, I kept doing it, and soon I got to 2,000 people on my list and 1500 people, then 2,000 people on my list. And that number stayed pretty sync. When I had 2,000 people on my list I was making a little over a two grand a month. When I had 5,000 people on my list, I made five grand a month. When I had a 100,000 people on my list I was making a 100 grand. Now I'm at over 1.7, 1.8 million people on my email list, we make more than that per month, right? So those numbers sync. And what's interesting is you get better at this game, you get better communicating with your audience, better making offers, better telling stories. All this I'm teaching you through these books that number will go up. You shouldn't just make a one dollar per name on your email list. You can make five dollars or $10. Sometimes I see local businesses where the list is small, they only have 800 people on their list, 500 people on their list. It's usually because of the relationship, because they're local they're able to make 10, 20, 30 bucks per name per email on their email list, okay? I want to give you that number as a metric. Because if some of you guys are like, "I need to retire." "I want to work from home," I want to do whatever, right? That's the number you should be looking at, right? If you're thinking I need to make six figures a year. Okay, if you had 10,000 people on your email list, you're averaging one dollar per month per name, that's 10 grand a month times 12 months, that's 120,000 a year. If you can focus, and get 10,000 people on your email list, based on the math, you should be making 120,000 bucks a year, your six figures a year. If you're like, I need to make five grand a month to survive, cool, you should be focusing on building a list of 5,000 people. You get a list of 5,000 people, you should, based on the math, if you do it okay, you should be making 5,000 grand a month. If you're I want to make a 1,000,000 bucks. I want to hit two comma club, cool. It's just a math game, right? That means if you want two comma club, you need to focus on getting a 100,000 people on your list, 100,000 people times 12 months is 1.2 million bucks a year. That's the game, you guys. That's what you've got to start to understand. The list is the secret. That's the metric, that's the thing we're all focusing on. So all this traffic stuff we're doing, as much fun as it is, like how do you Facebook ads, and Google ads, and do integration marketing? And how do you do growth hacking? All the things we're talking... as exciting as those things are, and they are, they're pretty amazing. The real secret, the real big aha, is that all the focus point of that is to turn it into traffic that you actually own. And I think tomorrow we're actually going to talk about followup funnels. I'm pretty sure. So tomorrow, we're going to talk about followup funnels. So followup funnels is like now someone's on my list, now what do I do with it? How do you make a dollar per name per month, Russell? Well, you do it by the followup funnel. This is the sequences and tomorrow we're going to go deep into that. But I'll give you guys a hint, just so you know. I was doing a... and I'll show this tomorrow, we'll go deep into this. I was looking at my front end funnels and we did a 30 day snapshot in a window. And in a 30 day window, for every dollar we made on one of our front end funnels, those are the funnels that buy ads too where I push stuff through like this. I'm buying my way, working my way, for every dollar I make in that front end funnel, we made $16.49 in the next 30 days through the followup funnels. These are the emails and messages that are sent to them over the next 30 days. So that's the big secret, you guys. So, again, I will share that with you guys tomorrow. If I can do nothing else, to drill into your brain, say the traffic secret to drill in your brain today, the most important thing you'll be focusing on is traffic that you own. How do you convert all the traffic you're earning, all the traffic you're buying into traffic that own? Because then when the storms come, and they're coming, you're feeling it right now. When the recession hits, when the depressions hit, when Facebook is shutdown by the government, when whatever. The platform you're on, the people are huge on buying and then buying got destroyed and then people have podcasts. Let's say the podcasts disappear. Who knows what it's going to be? But as long as you're focusing all your efforts on one thing, traffic that you own, you'll survive the hard times, okay? I've survived two collapses of the economy, excuse me, one big collapse of the economy, two collapses of my business. I've survived all these things because of one thing, and one thing alone: I have my email list. That's the big secret. You guys got that? That's the big secret. So always have to think about that today. In fact, that should be your goal right now, as you get off this thing, start thinking, okay, how big is my email list today? That's number one. If it's zero people, now's the time to start, okay. But look at it, how big is your email list, that's number one. Then number two, how many people per day are joining it, okay? Again, if that's zero, then that's the next thing, how do I get people every day to do it? Then number three, okay, how do I make that number bigger? What you measure grows. So if you start measuring it, it'll grow, or shrink if you're in weight loss, right? If you're measuring your waist every day, you don't want it to grow, but it'll shrink. But in business you want it to grow. So whatever you measure will grow. So every single day the number you should be looking for is how much did my list grow today? How many leads have I got today? That's what you got to start focusing on, okay. Help you guys to survive the storms or the craziness, that's just as important. So there you guys go. That is the Traffic Secret for today I'm going to share. We had a good turnout today. You guys must be bored out of your minds at home during the quarantine. So if you are, what I recommend doing right now... by the time we hangout tomorrow, you guys could listen to this entire book. Go to trafficsecrets.com, you can pre-order a hardbound copy of this book for free. They don't ship until May 5th though, but the order form bump is the audio book of this. If you get the audio book you can plug it into your ears and you could listen to it. It's seven hours of me reading the entire book, word-for-word. By this time tomorrow, you can have it done, we can get back to work. That's your challenge. While you're sitting around, go do it. Let's go. Trafficsecrets.com, get the hardbound book. There's also a whole bunch of amazing video bonuses you get. You get a presentation from Prince Ea who has over three billion views on Facebook. He does a presentation you get for free in there. Payne June talks about how he does his social media, presentation for me about traffic. A bunch of cool stuff you get for free in there. You just got to go get the book for free and then get the audio book you can start listening to today, if you want. Those who have been asking about how do you get the whole box set. The upsale flow you can get the box set in the upsale flow, so that's there as well. And then, you guys, after you've done that and you're like, "I need more stuff, Russ. I want to keep geeking out. I want to sharpen myself, want my brain to get bigger." Then just go to right here, funnelflix.com. Click Funnels has entered the streaming wars, we are trying to destroy Disney+ and Netflix and all the others. No, I'm just kidding. This is way better. But you guys get a free week at funnelsflix.com, it's called Free Premiere Week. You can go there. You put your email address in, click submit and you can get the first four presentations for free. First one's from my man Frank Kern. One of the original OGs in internet marketing. He's one of the dudes I was learning from when I got started. He did a secret presentation at Funnel Hacking Live. Nobody knew he was coming and when he came out on stage, they flipped out. Anyway, his presentation is there for free. You have funnelflix.com, put your email address in here, and then what happens? Oh, you joined my list! "What? Russ practices what he preaches! Oh, this is so crazy." You joined my email list, right? Boom, you watch Frank's presentation. Then, number two, you go right here, and you watch the presentation of Julius, who built an Instagram following of I think 5 or 6,000,000 people. He's a magician, his presentation was insane. His magic is awesome. Then over here you've got a presentation from me on your value ladder which is awesome. Anyway. So funnelflix.com, so trafficsecrets.com get your book. Funnelflix.com go geek out, you've got free premiere week over here, bunch of cool stuff. With that said, you guys, I appreciate you all hanging out. Tomorrow we'll be back. Tomorrow we're going to go into followup funnels, which will be a lot of fun. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Anyway, appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out today. If you got any value from this, please call me down below and let me know. If you're on Facebook watching this, please share it. That'd be awesome too. I don't know, can you share this on Instagram live? I don't really know how that works. But feel free to share this if you got any value, it'd mean the world to me. Thank you guys for hanging out, appreciate you all. And we'll see you guys all again tomorrow. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000 How To OWN Your Traffic (AKA Build Your Own List!) (TS) full 454 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want FULL ACCESS to your dream customers? What if you didn't need permission from Facebook or Google to talk to your dream customers? On this episode, you'll learn... Why... Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want FULL ACCESS to your dream customers? What if you didn't need permission from Facebook or Google to talk to your dream customers? On this episode, you'll learn... Why your email list should be your NUMBER ONE growth metric. How Russell made his first $70 by building an email list illegally. How to convert ANY website visitor into traffic that you OWN and never have to pay for again. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to our chance every day where we get to hangout and talk about traffic and funnels and all of the fun things. Excited to be with you guys here today. It's actually kind of cool be in this whole quarantine thing. Where outside everything looks normal and it's this weird, eerie feeling. But then inside we can hangout and be with our family, our friends, we can go live, we can share thoughts, ideas. I think this has been a really cool time for so many people to start sharpening their saw, and starting to get smarter and better about what they're doing and why their doing it and how they're doing it and all kind of stuff. So I'm excited to be here with you guys today. We're going to be talking more about traffic secrets. Today we're going to be covering the third type of traffic. Yesterday we talked about the first two types of traffic. Traffic that you control, traffic that you earned and then today we're talking about the third type, which is traffic that you... you guys know what it is? Traffic that you own. That's the best kind of traffic. So we're going to be going to that in here a few seconds. But while we're waiting for everybody to jump on and get here, I want to make sure you guys know that we're in the middle of the traffic series book launch, which is kind of fun. We've been selling books like crazy. This is the highest numbering funnel we've done so far. So for my funnel hackers, if you're going through the funnel make sure to buy slowly and watch the process and see what's happening and why it's happening because it's doing really, really well. You can go to trafficsecrets.com. This is it right here. There's the video. In fact, you watch the video, I'm very proud of the video, hopefully you'll learn some stuff just from watching that. You can see the offers, you can buy the book for free, just cover shipping and handling, it's 9.95 shipping in the U.S., a little bit more internationally, but you can go get that there. Scroll down you can see the sales pitch. This is a chance, look at what I'm doing, you guys. I spent two years writing the book and about the same amount of time brainstorming this funnel and getting it live and ready. It is over 20,000 books sold and it's kept a $63 average cart value, which is insane. Especially knowing that a lot of you guys are my funnel hackers. You're like, "I bough the book six times. I want to get everybody's bonuses." With that said, to be able to keep the average cart value that high I would say the real average cart value, if I were to pull out all the duplicates, the average is probably 80 plus dollars, which is insane. Most book funnels are 20 to 30 bucks max. The funnels are awesome, so make sure to go watch it, buy slowly, learn some stuff while you're doing it. You just go to trafficsecrets.com. For those of you that are extra bored, especially if you're bored with your kids, right here is funnelflix.com. And if you go to funnelflix.com, you can get a free premiere week. Which basically you go in there, and you get a bunch of video for free. Including the very first one, which is from, I don't know if you can see it right there, that is Frank Kern... this is Frank Kern right here. He spoke at Funnel Hacking Live. Nobody knew he was coming, we kept it a surprise and he came out and people lost their mind. Frank is one of the original OGs. When I was learning internet marketing, Frank was one of the dudes teaching it. You can actually go and literally go watch his presentation online for free, bunch of other ones as well. Julius, I hear he's got 5,000,000 followers on Instagram. He walks you how he does it, how he did it. You get that one for free. You get one from me for free. Anyway if you go to funnelflix.com you get Funnel Flix premiere week for free. Then if you go over here to trafficsecrets.com, you get Traffic Secrets for free. So anyway, that's what's happening. All right with that said, you guys, we got a full audience between Instagram we're about 160 people, Facebook we're at 155-ish, so we've got 300 people here. We can start this party and get started and it should be fun. Lionel said, "I think I found my ADD community." Yes, welcome to the ADD-nis. All right. Okay, so today we're talking again about Traffic Secrets. If you don't have your free copy of the book, go to trafficsecrets.com. And this is the box set with all the books. If you don't know anything about me, these are the books I've written. Dotcom Secrets is the first book. This is the new updated hardbound version. This is Expert Secrets is the second book. And Traffic Seekers is the third and final book in the trilogy. And Unlock the Secrets is this amazing workbook that goes with all of these books here. It's kind of fun. Anyhoo, let me pull out book number one. All right, the Traffic Secrets book. So here we go, Traffic Secrets. Today we're going to be going into one of the secrets. Brian saying, "How do you get the box set?" The box set is not for sale right now unless after you get the Traffic Secrets book the upsale may or may not be the box set. This is all pre-order, these aren't shipped till May 5th. But the audio books are available today. I spent three days in the studio reading the Traffic Secrets book. It's a seven hour audio, you can go and get that. It's for the order form bump. You can grab that, plug it in and start listening, which is kind of cool. Also, we've got the audio books of the Dotcom Expert Secrets new update as well as part of the sales funnel. If you go through the funnel, you'll see all the cool stuff. So you just got to go to trafficsecrets.com and slowly today go through the funnel and have some fun with it. Reesio said, "How is my quarantine?" It's been good. We're having a good time. I think I'm driving my kids crazy sometimes, they're driving me crazy sometimes, but as a whole, we're doing really good. Thank you for asking. All right, hope you guys are all doing as well, good as well. My job for the next 25 minutes or so is to entertain you, get you excited, inspire you, open your mind to how to get traffic. What you do with traffic, how it all works. I've been doing these live on Instagram and Facebook every day for the last two weeks, so if you missed any of them feel free to go back there. We may or may not also be launching a Traffic Secrets podcast that'll have the recordings of these too. That may be live in the next day or so, I'll let you guys know and then you can start listening in there as well, which will be kind of cool. All right, here we go, Traffic Secrets. So what we covered so far. Section number one is all about your dream customer. Secret One we figure out who's your dream customer. We talked about figuring out and understanding them at a deep level. Figuring out are they moving towards pleasure or away from pain? What's interesting in this market today, I think two weeks ago a majority of customers were moving towards pleasure. Which meant your ads, your advertising is all focused on grabbing people or trying to move towards pleasure. Over the last two weeks, people are in pain and they're now in a state where they're moving away from pain. Looking at that lens, most of our advertising and marketing should be shifting from speaking to them moving towards pleasure to speaking to them moving away from pain. So there's a little hint from Section number one. We also talked about the difference between a searcher and a scroller. What advertising networks people are searching, which ones they're scrolling and how you differentiate your ads and your landing pages and everything based on if they're a searcher or a scroller, the pros and the cons. That was all secret number one. Number two we talked about now you know who they are. Where are they hiding? Where are they congregating? We've got to find those pockets of our dream customers so we can go and target them. We also talked about then who's already congregated and who are our dream 100? And we built the list of our dream 100. After that, secret number three, we talked about hook story offer. How do we throw our hooks in the water to grab their attention and we tell the story to increase perceived value of what it is we're selling them and then how we make them an offer. And secret number four. Yesterday we talked about with your dream 100 how do you work your way in and how do you buy your way in? And that's what brings us today. Today we're talking about secret number five, which is traffic that you own. So I'm going to jump right there, we're going to go through that. This is the best type of traffic of all the types of traffic that are out there. So many things I have to gloss through because this book is super huge and I can't just cover every... make sure you still get the book and read it because there's so many things, like in here, just in the last chapter, I walk through five of our front end funnels. I'll show you the stats, numbers, every single funnel, how it works. I talk about how much you spend on traffic, how much on ads. I give you very detailed numbers. It's like six pages of the numbers of the funnel that you can get inside the book and look at and say, okay, here's the product. How much is it sold for? Here's the order form bump. Here's the commissions, the percentages, here's how it all worked. I breakdown every funnel in great detail. Those are all things I can't do on a live like this that you get inside the book. Okay. Secret number five, traffic that you own. So if you look at the image here, you can see here is the dream 100, right. If you've done this exercise with me over the last couple days, here's Facebook, here's all the people that have already congregated my dream customers on Facebook. Here's Instagram, here's a lot of people that have already congregated in my dream customers Instagram. On Facebook, on YouTube, on Google, we find those people, we have our dream 100 list. Now we're trying to figure out from yesterday how do I work my way in and how do I buy my way into these audiences, okay? Because that's where are traffic's already at, we're just trying to work out way and buy our way in into the audiences. And then from there, this is what this whole secret's about: Traffic v. Yield. So all the time we're getting traffic, our goal's not to get traffic to sell products, our goal is to get traffic where we're either getting traffic that we've earned or traffic we control and we're converting it into traffic that we own. That's the big secret, okay. So, for example, traffic that I earn. If I'm earning traffic, it means I'm going out and I'm working for it, right. I'm getting on podcast interviews, I'm doing Facebook lives with people. I'm getting somebody to promote my product for me. This is stuff I'm not paying for, but I'm earning it, I'm putting in the time and the energy and the effort, okay. Traffic I control is I go to Facebook, right. And I don't own Facebook ads, right? Mark Zuckerberg, he owns all that traffic on Facebook, but he allows me and you to go to him and say, "Hey, I want to control some of that traffic. I will pay you if you let me divert some of that traffic from Facebook over into my funnel," okay? It's the traffic you control. There's traffic that I earn, I'm working my way in. There's traffic that I control, where I'm buying my way in. Now the goal of both those traffic sources is not just to sell a product. This is where most people get it wrong. This is the very shortsightedness of almost all entrepreneurs. They're like, "Oh, cool, I bought traffic from Facebook. I'm going to sell my product." Yes, that's part of the goal, but the bigger goal, the overarching strategy is to convert traffic that you earn and traffic that you control into traffic that you own. When you own traffic, you own your own destiny, right? If Facebook shutdown tomorrow, I'd be okay because I have an email list of, I don't know, one and a half to almost 2,000,000 people. So I own that traffic. Any day I can wake up like, "I want to send traffic to this." I can send an email and, boom, traffic goes there. I launch a new book, I want to send traffic here. Because I own that traffic, I own this ball of traffic, I can send it to this page or this page or that page. I can send it wherever I want because I own that traffic, okay? So all the other things I'm doing, all the other exercises of buying ads and working my way into doing podcast interviews and all those things, the only goal of those things is to convert the traffic that I'm controlling and then buying, or that I'm earning and controlling, into traffic that I own, because then I control my own destiny. For me, for the last few years, I've been working on that. For the last decade and a half I've been building my list, building my following, it's traffic that I own now. Even if Facebook disappears, if Google goes away tomorrow, I'm still going to be in business because I own traffic, okay? And that's the mindset shift of what you guys are all having, that you need to understand that you want to be able to own that traffic, okay? So that's what this whole secret's about, owning traffic. When I first kind of started understanding this, let's see... When I first started understanding this, it was back early in my journey. One of my first mentors was a guy named Mark Joiner. Some of you guys know Mark, he's amazing. He's the one who kept telling me, "Russ, we have to focus on building a list, building a list, that's the secret to internet marketing. Building a list, building a list." And I remember at the time there were all these people that were doing different ways to make money. And I was so grateful that my first mentor told me, "You have to build lists, you have to build lists," because that thing has saved me now for a decade and a half. During the ups and downs of the trials of my business and the safe parts of my business. Having a list has helped me to endure. The people who have email lists right now, are the ones who are going to thrive during this whole crazy recession and depression, whatever ends up happening. I don't even know what's going to happen. But those people are surviving because they're prepared for that, right? It's very important to understand that. Let's see. There's so many things I could share with you guys. Just get the book and read it, it's so good! Anyway. Okay. Oh, there's a story in here, but the story's four pages long. Part of me wants to read it, and part of me is like if I read that I'd lose half of you guys. I'll tell you the gist of the story and I'll read one part of it. So this was the day that I learned about list-building, the day it really got sunk in my head. I was like, "Oh my gosh, I need an email list," right? In fact, I told this story yesterday on an interview with Jim Edwards, it was kind of fun. All right, when I first started learning about this whole game of internet marketing, I started hearing people talk about email list. I remember reading and article online and it was about... sometimes you hear about the gurus and they make $30,000 in a weekend and you think it's scam, right? And the guy's like, "No, it's not a scam. Let me explain how this whole thing works." And he explained, he said, "The gurus, whatever you want to call them, they have an email list of maybe 10,000 people, or 30, or a 100,000 people." He said, "All they do is an email out to a 100,000 people and if they send an email to a 100,000 people and they get 10,000 people who actually go and sign up for the thing," right. "Say you send an email to 100,000 people, 10,000 people open the email, 5,000 click through to the thing, and then 500 of those people actually buy the product and let's say it's a $20 product, you just made 10 grand or 30 grand, whatever the math is," right. And he's just like, "It's just a numbers game." He said, "The reason why these gurus make a ton of money is because they spent the last X amount of time building up these huge email lists, right, traffic that they own." And when I read that I was like, "Oh my gosh," it was the epiphany and all of a sudden I understood." I was like, "I need my own email list." I didn't know how to get an email list. So the first thing I did was I jumped on Mr. Google. I said, "How do you get an email list?" And I started searching around and within a few minutes I found this website. I can't remember the domain exactly, I think it was spam for emailaddresses.com. I was like, "Sweet, that's what I need, spam for email addresses." So I went and there was some DVDs where you could buy a DVD with a 100,000 email addresses, one with 500,000, one with a 1,000,000. I'm like, "Well, if I'm going to get an email list, I want a 1,000,000." So I spent 70 bucks and bought a DVD with a million email addresses on it. I waited for it to get sent to me, I get this thing with 70,000,000 email addresses. I'm like, "I'm going to be rich." I'm doing the math in my head. Send an email to a 1,000,000 people, if I get a 100,000 to open, 10,000 to click, 5,000 to buy the thing times $20. If I could send an email every single day, I'm going to be rich. I'm doing the math in my head, I'm trying to explain to my wife, we'd just gotten married at the time. "You can literally quit your job tomorrow. We are going to be rich. I figured out the secret of internet marketing. This is going to be so easy." So I took this DVD, and back then the way we sent emails was different. It wasn't through an email auto responder, you had to buy desktop software. So I bought the software, I put it on my desktop and I uploaded the DVD with a 100,000,000 people's email addresses. I wrote an email and I remember that night, about to go to bed. And you have to remember this was almost 15 years ago. It was, no, probably 16-17 years ago. Anyway, it was before we have high speed internet, before we had cell phones, things like that. If you remember the internet back then, usually you had one phone line and it was your phone or your modem. So I had to crawl under my desk, unplug the phone and plug in my modem, get online. I remember that night writing an email, clicking send and then telling my wife I was like, "We'll be rich by morning. You can literally quit your job tomorrow." And I remember sitting there watching the email software, boom, one email sent, two emails sent, three, four. I'm like, "Oh, this is amazing!" I go to bed that night and I'm like a kid at Christmas time, laying there in bed thinking about it. Every couple of hours I get out of bed and run in, move the mouse to get my screensaver off and 600 sent, 800 sent, 2000 sent. I'm just freaking out, right? So finally the next morning I wake up, my wife's getting ready for work, I'm getting ready for school. And I sneak back in the room where the computer's at, I look at it. And overnight we'd sent, I think we'd sent 6500 emails or something like that during the night. And I was like, "Dang it, I thought I was going to send a million overnight. It's going way slower than I thought." Then Colette was like, "I need to use the phone." I'm like, "You have to use the phone? You don't understand, we're printing cash right now, we cannot use the phone." She's like, "I have to use the phone. I have to call someone at work." So I crawl under the desk, I go and unplug the modem, I plug back in the phone and as soon as I plug it in, I'm still under the desk, I hear the phone ring, brrg. I get out, I pick up the phone and on the other end was my internet service provider yelling at me and screaming at me and cursing me out. Telling me how many spam complaints that they got in the last four or five hours. They're shutting me down and they're going to potentially file a lawsuit and all this stuff. I just like, oh, crap, and I totally freaked out. Finally, the guy hangs up on me, shuts off my internet. I hang up the phone and Colette's like, "Who's that on the phone?" I'm like, "Uh, nobody. Oh, and by the way, please don't quit today. Just wait it out a couple days." She kind of laughs at me. Anyway, she goes to work and that day I'm kind of bummed out. I'm licking my wounds and I go and I put my backpack on and I'm walking to school. I get to school and I'm super bummed out because I lost internet. I can't even check my email, I've no internet right now. I go into the computer lab at school and I check my emails. I said I felt like, "I wonder if anybody bought anything?" So I logged into my PayPal account like I did many times prior, and every time I logged into PayPal in the past, there's always a big zero on top. How much money did you make? Zero dollars. I'm like, "Ah." And I logged in this time and guess what? It didn't say zero. First time ever, it said 70. I was like, "What?" I was like, "I made 70 bucks." The way I did it apparently was illegal, but I did it, I made 70 bucks. This actually works! And it was the proof I needed. This whole thing actually works. This whole idea of having a list works. I did it the wrong way, but there's got to be a right way to do this. So it started me on this journey of I have to figure out the legitimate way to build the email list because other people are doing it. I got a little taste of it, I made 70 bucks the wrong way so I got to figure out the right way. So I started this journey of I have to learn how to build a list, have to learn how to build the list. That became my obsession for the next decade of my life and it's still an obsession today, which is why I have a big email list, because I focus on it. In fact, every single day we have a company-wide meeting. We call it the Click Funnels Pulse Meeting. And one of the stats we share every single day is how many people joined our list yesterday? That's the number we're looking at. It's a metric, it's a KPI in our company. How many people today joined your list? It was interesting for all of you guys who are watching this, if you're not looking at that metric daily, your list probably isn't growing. I've seen some people who have a business, they'll grow a list and they get 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 people on the list and then they stop and go, "Oh, I got a list." And they send emails to the list and they're making money so their fine. But what happens is that list will start to atrophy over time, get smaller, smaller and eventually your business just disappears and dies. Your focus point is you need to consistently, continually always be building your list. That should be the number one metric. You wake up every morning, how many people joined my list yesterday? How many joined yesterday? I remember the first time I got that, one of my friends, Dagen Smith, he told me that. He asked me, "How many people a day join your email list?" I'm like, "I don't know." He's like, "You don't know that number?" "I mean people are joining, but I don't look at that." He's like, "Dude, what you watch, what you measure grows." And so I was like, "Okay. I'm going to start looking it." I started looking at it. I remember at the time there's probably 60-70 people a day joining my list, and so I started watching it. And what's crazy is I started looking at the numbers every single day, it started making me upset in my head. "Ah, only 70 people." Then your subconscious mind starts looking for ways. "Well, how do I make this bigger? How do I make it bigger?" As I'm sitting there thinking how to make it bigger, new ideas pop in my head. Then I morph from 70 a day to 100 a day to a 150 a day, and 500 a day to a 1,000 a day, to 2,000 a day. And it became the focal point of my business. For all you guys, when you start getting this book, that's what I talk about. All the things you're doing, from traffic you control, the traffic you're buying, the traffic that you're earning, the goal of all that traffic is just to convert into traffic that you own, which is your list. Your list is the key. If you look at, "What's the biggest secret of the Russ Brunson's internet marketing?" Your list is the key. You need to be building your list. That's the big aha, okay? You have to understand that. All the things I'm doing, from Facebook live to videos, to podcast interviews, to buying ads, the goal of all the thing is to build my list. And the key metric, the KPI I look at every single day, the most important one of my business for me, is how many people today joined my list? Okay. So all you guys need to be focusing on that. That's the big thing. Someone said, "What software do you use?" I use this weird software called Click Funnels. Click Funnels builds my list, it does everything. All right. That's the big thing to understand. Okay. So there's my little tangent, the way to understand, it's the traffic that you own, okay? And I told you that story already. When I'm doing all this stuff, when I'm buying ads, when I'm earning traffic, the goal of both of those is to get into traffic that I own, right? So when I'm on a podcast interview, I'm doing a podcast and I'm earning traffic while I'm there and being interviewed. At the end of it what do I say? At the end of it I'm like, "Hey, by the way, I got this cool new book called Traffic Secrets. Go to trafficsecrets.com to get a free copy." People go to trafficsecrets.com, they click on the button, they put in their what? Email address. Then what happens? They join my list. Oh. That's the goal. If I do the podcast interviews, not just do an interview. I do an interview the interview's not like that's okay. Yeah, I want to sell copies of the book, but the only reason I'm trying to sell copies of the book is I want you on my email list because that's the game, okay? Hopefully, that helps you understand that. So all the traffic you're buying, all the traffic your earning is all going into one spot where you can build an email list because that's the secret of internet marketing. If you look at these, some of you guys have already seen this. This is one of my squeeze pages, okay. If you go to marketingsecrets.com/blackbook, this is one. This lead page alone has generated over 300,000 leads for me. 300,000 leads, okay, boom. This is where my book funnels. The goal of it is to get somebody to join the email list. I'm sending people from all these places to spots. You notice that every page I send somebody to, like right now I sent you to trafficsecrets.com. When you go there, guess what happens if you click on the button? You join my list. I send you to funnelsclick.com, you go there you get this free stuff or I give you this bait to go watch Frank Kern's presentation, Julius', and mine, right. It's four hours of free video, but what happens if you watch those videos? You give me your email address. Now you join my list. I'm working my way right now to you guys, right. We'll then buy ads to this video, which I'll be buying my way in, but the goal of all of them is to get you on my email list, right? I've been telling you you got two email lists today. That's my goal. I'm trying to convert all this traffic that I'm earning, right, I'm earning it, right. We've still got 160 viewers on Instagram, we got 185 in Facebook. We'll push these things live over the next two or three weeks. We'll probably get, I don't know, 50 to 100,000 people to watch this video. From that, hopefully, I'll get, I don't know, 20-30,000 people to join my list from it. That's why I'm doing these exercises, okay. That's why we do all this stuff. So I hope you guys understand that. Okay, one more thing I'll talk about list-building, just to give you guys some metrics to make this really tangible for you and then we'll wrap it for today. When I got started, I had one of my friends, who's actually Mike Filsaime, I love Mike. Mike told me, he said, "You should average, on average you should make at least one dollar per month, per name on your email list." And I didn't know if that was high or low. It's actually really low. You should make more than that, but this is a really good baseline, right? So what that means, let's say you got a 100 people on your email list. You should average one dollar per month, per name on your email list. So I got a 100 people on my email list, I should make at least a 100 bucks a month from those people. I got a 1,000 people on my email list, I should be making a 1,000 bucks a month. If I've got 50,000 people on my email list, I should make 50,000 a month and so on and so forth, right? And for you guys who are starting your business, you're growing your company, you're like, "How do I grow my company?" That's the big secret. How many people are on your email list right now? If I ask you and you're I don't know, then you don't have a business. You're goofing around, okay. Engagement on Instagram does not count as an email list, right? The goal of engagement on Instagram is to get people to go to your email list and join your list, right? That's the tangible business that we're in. I remember he told me that, I was like okay. So I started at that point, it was my very first product called Zip Brander and I had it top of my list. I started driving traffic to it. I remember the very first month I got 217 people. Isn't funny you remember some random numbers like that? 217 people joined my email list that very first month. In that month, I think I made $300 in sales. I was like, okay, that's a little more than a one dollar per name. I'm going to keep focusing. I took that money that I made, I reinvested it back into more traffic. I got more people in and in month number two I had 600 people on my list. That month I made like 800 bucks. I was like, uh. So I reinvested that 800 bucks back into ads, I kept doing it, and soon I got to 2,000 people on my list and 1500 people, then 2,000 people on my list. And that number stayed pretty sync. When I had 2,000 people on my list I was making a little over a two grand a month. When I had 5,000 people on my list, I made five grand a month. When I had a 100,000 people on my list I was making a 100 grand. Now I'm at over 1.7, 1.8 million people on my email list, we make more than that per month, right? So those numbers sync. And what's interesting is you get better at this game, you get better communicating with your audience, better making offers, better telling stories. All this I'm teaching you through these books that number will go up. You shouldn't just make a one dollar per name on your email list. You can make five dollars or $10. Sometimes I see local businesses where the list is small, they only have 800 people on their list, 500 people on their list. It's usually because of the relationship, because they're local they're able to make 10, 20, 30 bucks per name per email on their email list, okay? I want to give you that number as a metric. Because if some of you guys are like, "I need to retire." "I want to work from home," I want to do whatever, right? That's the number you should be looking at, right? If you're thinking I need to make six figures a year. Okay, if you had 10,000 people on your email list, you're averaging one dollar per month per name, that's 10 grand a month times 12 months, that's 120,000 a year. If you can focus, and get 10,000 people on your email list, based on the math, you should be making 120,000 bucks a year, your six figures a year. If you're like, I need to make five grand a month to survive, cool, you should be focusing on building a list of 5,000 people. You get a list of 5,000 people, you should, based on the math, if you do it okay, you should be making 5,000 grand a month. If you're I want to make a 1,000,000 bucks. I want to hit two comma club, cool. It's just a math game, right? That means if you want two comma club, you need to focus on getting a 100,000 people on your list, 100,000 people times 12 months is 1.2 million bucks a year. That's the game, you guys. That's what you've got to start to understand. The list is the secret. That's the metric, that's the thing we're all focusing on. So all this traffic stuff we're doing, as much fun as it is, like how do you Facebook ads, and Google ads, and do integration marketing? And how do you do growth hacking? All the things we're talking... as exciting as those things are, and they are, they're pretty amazing. The real secret, the real big aha, is that all the focus point of that is to turn it into traffic that you actually own. And I think tomorrow we're actually going to talk about followup funnels. I'm pretty sure. So tomorrow, we're going to talk about followup funnels. So followup funnels is like now someone's on my list, now what do I do with it? How do you make a dollar per name per month, Russell? Well, you do it by the followup funnel. This is the sequences and tomorrow we're going to go deep into that. But I'll give you guys a hint, just so you know. I was doing a... and I'll show this tomorrow, we'll go deep into this. I was looking at my front end funnels and we did a 30 day snapshot in a window. And in a 30 day window, for every dollar we made on one of our front end funnels, those are the funnels that buy ads too where I push stuff through like this. I'm buying my way, working my way, for every dollar I make in that front end funnel, we made $16.49 in the next 30 days through the followup funnels. These are the emails and messages that are sent to them over the next 30 days. So that's the big secret, you guys. So, again, I will share that with you guys tomorrow. If I can do nothing else, to drill into your brain, say the traffic secret to drill in your brain today, the most important thing you'll be focusing on is traffic that you own. How do you convert all the traffic you're earning, all the traffic you're buying into traffic that own? Because then when the storms come, and they're coming, you're feeling it right now. When the recession hits, when the depressions hit, when Facebook is shutdown by the government, when whatever. The platform you're on, the people are huge on buying and then buying got destroyed and then people have podcasts. Let's say the podcasts disappear. Who knows what it's going to be? But as long as you're focusing all your efforts on one thing, traffic that you own, you'll survive the hard times, okay? I've survived two collapses of the economy, excuse me, one big collapse of the economy, two collapses of my business. I've survived all these things because of one thing, and one thing alone: I have my email list. That's the big secret. You guys got that? That's the big secret. So always have to think about that today. In fact, that should be your goal right now, as you get off this thing, start thinking, okay, how big is my email list today? That's number one. If it's zero people, now's the time to start, okay. But look at it, how big is your email list, that's number one. Then number two, how many people per day are joining it, okay? Again, if that's zero, then that's the next thing, how do I get people every day to do it? Then number three, okay, how do I make that number bigger? What you measure grows. So if you start measuring it, it'll grow, or shrink if you're in weight loss, right? If you're measuring your waist every day, you don't want it to grow, but it'll shrink. But in business you want it to grow. So whatever you measure will grow. So every single day the number you should be looking for is how much did my list grow today? How many leads have I got today? That's what you got to start focusing on, okay. Help you guys to survive the storms or the craziness, that's just as important. So there you guys go. That is the Traffic Secret for today I'm going to share. We had a good turnout today. You guys must be bored out of your minds at home during the quarantine. So if you are, what I recommend doing right now... by the time we hangout tomorrow, you guys could listen to this entire book. Go to trafficsecrets.com, you can pre-order a hardbound copy of this book for free. They don't ship until May 5th though, but the order form bump is the audio book of this. If you get the audio book you can plug it into your ears and you could listen to it. It's seven hours of me reading the entire book, word-for-word. By this time tomorrow, you can have it done, we can get back to work. That's your challenge. While you're sitting around, go do it. Let's go. Trafficsecrets.com, get the hardbound book. There's also a whole bunch of amazing video bonuses you get. You get a presentation from Prince Ea who has over three billion views on Facebook. He does a presentation you get for free in there. Payne June talks about how he does his social media, presentation for me about traffic. A bunch of cool stuff you get for free in there. You just got to go get the book for free and then get the audio book you can start listening to today, if you want. Those who have been asking about how do you get the whole box set. The upsale flow you can get the box set in the upsale flow, so that's there as well. And then, you guys, after you've done that and you're like, "I need more stuff, Russ. I want to keep geeking out. I want to sharpen myself, want my brain to get bigger." Then just go to right here, funnelflix.com. Click Funnels has entered the streaming wars, we are trying to destroy Disney+ and Netflix and all the others. No, I'm just kidding. This is way better. But you guys get a free week at funnelsflix.com, it's called Free Premiere Week. You can go there. You put your email address in, click submit and you can get the first four presentations for free. First one's from my man Frank Kern. One of the original OGs in internet marketing. He's one of the dudes I was learning from when I got started. He did a secret presentation at Funnel Hacking Live. Nobody knew he was coming and when he came out on stage, they flipped out. Anyway, his presentation is there for free. You have funnelflix.com, put your email address in here, and then what happens? Oh, you joined my list! "What? Russ practices what he preaches! Oh, this is so crazy." You joined my email list, right? Boom, you watch Frank's presentation. Then, number two, you go right here, and you watch the presentation of Julius, who built an Instagram following of I think 5 or 6,000,000 people. He's a magician, his presentation was insane. His magic is awesome. Then over here you've got a presentation from me on your value ladder which is awesome. Anyway. So funnelflix.com, so trafficsecrets.com get your book. Funnelflix.com go geek out, you've got free premiere week over here, bunch of cool stuff. With that said, you guys, I appreciate you all hanging out. Tomorrow we'll be back. Tomorrow we're going to go into followup funnels, which will be a lot of fun. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Anyway, appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out today. If you got any value from this, please call me down below and let me know. If you're on Facebook watching this, please share it. That'd be awesome too. 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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to our chance every day where we get to hangout and talk about traffic and funnels and all of the fun things. Excited to be with you guys here today. It's actually kind of cool be in this whole quarantine thing. Where outside everything looks normal and it's this weird, eerie feeling. But then inside we can hangout and be with our family, our friends, we can go live, we can share thoughts, ideas. I think this has been a really cool time for so many people to start sharpening their saw, and starting to get smarter and better about what they're doing and why their doing it and how they're doing it and all kind of stuff.

So I'm excited to be here with you guys today. We're going to be talking more about traffic secrets. Today we're going to be covering the third type of traffic. Yesterday we talked about the first two types of traffic. Traffic that you control, traffic that you earned and then today we're talking about the third type, which is traffic that you... you guys know what it is? Traffic that you own. That's the best kind of traffic. So we're going to be going to that in here a few seconds.

But while we're waiting for everybody to jump on and get here, I want to make sure you guys know that we're in the middle of the traffic series book launch, which is kind of fun. We've been selling books like crazy. This is the highest numbering funnel we've done so far. So for my funnel hackers, if you're going through the funnel make sure to buy slowly and watch the process and see what's happening and why it's happening because it's doing really, really well. You can go to trafficsecrets.com. This is it right here. There's the video. In fact, you watch the video, I'm very proud of the video, hopefully you'll learn some stuff just from watching that. You can see the offers, you can buy the book for free, just cover shipping and handling, it's 9.95 shipping in the U.S., a little bit more internationally, but you can go get that there.

Scroll down you can see the sales pitch. This is a chance, look at what I'm doing, you guys. I spent two years writing the book and about the same amount of time brainstorming this funnel and getting it live and ready. It is over 20,000 books sold and it's kept a $63 average cart value, which is insane. Especially knowing that a lot of you guys are my funnel hackers. You're like, "I bough the book six times. I want to get everybody's bonuses."

With that said, to be able to keep the average cart value that high I would say the real average cart value, if I were to pull out all the duplicates, the average is probably 80 plus dollars, which is insane. Most book funnels are 20 to 30 bucks max. The funnels are awesome, so make sure to go watch it, buy slowly, learn some stuff while you're doing it. You just go to trafficsecrets.com.

For those of you that are extra bored, especially if you're bored with your kids, right here is funnelflix.com. And if you go to funnelflix.com, you can get a free premiere week. Which basically you go in there, and you get a bunch of video for free. Including the very first one, which is from, I don't know if you can see it right there, that is Frank Kern... this is Frank Kern right here. He spoke at Funnel Hacking Live. Nobody knew he was coming, we kept it a surprise and he came out and people lost their mind.

Frank is one of the original OGs. When I was learning internet marketing, Frank was one of the dudes teaching it. You can actually go and literally go watch his presentation online for free, bunch of other ones as well. Julius, I hear he's got 5,000,000 followers on Instagram. He walks you how he does it, how he did it. You get that one for free. You get one from me for free. Anyway if you go to funnelflix.com you get Funnel Flix premiere week for free. Then if you go over here to trafficsecrets.com, you get Traffic Secrets for free.

So anyway, that's what's happening. All right with that said, you guys, we got a full audience between Instagram we're about 160 people, Facebook we're at 155-ish, so we've got 300 people here. We can start this party and get started and it should be fun. Lionel said, "I think I found my ADD community." Yes, welcome to the ADD-nis.

All right. Okay, so today we're talking again about Traffic Secrets. If you don't have your free copy of the book, go to trafficsecrets.com. And this is the box set with all the books. If you don't know anything about me, these are the books I've written. Dotcom Secrets is the first book. This is the new updated hardbound version. This is Expert Secrets is the second book. And Traffic Seekers is the third and final book in the trilogy. And Unlock the Secrets is this amazing workbook that goes with all of these books here. It's kind of fun.

Anyhoo, let me pull out book number one. All right, the Traffic Secrets book. So here we go, Traffic Secrets. Today we're going to be going into one of the secrets. Brian saying, "How do you get the box set?" The box set is not for sale right now unless after you get the Traffic Secrets book the upsale may or may not be the box set. This is all pre-order, these aren't shipped till May 5th. But the audio books are available today. I spent three days in the studio reading the Traffic Secrets book. It's a seven hour audio, you can go and get that. It's for the order form bump. You can grab that, plug it in and start listening, which is kind of cool. Also, we've got the audio books of the Dotcom Expert Secrets new update as well as part of the sales funnel.

If you go through the funnel, you'll see all the cool stuff. So you just got to go to trafficsecrets.com and slowly today go through the funnel and have some fun with it.

Reesio said, "How is my quarantine?" It's been good. We're having a good time. I think I'm driving my kids crazy sometimes, they're driving me crazy sometimes, but as a whole, we're doing really good. Thank you for asking. All right, hope you guys are all doing as well, good as well.

My job for the next 25 minutes or so is to entertain you, get you excited, inspire you, open your mind to how to get traffic. What you do with traffic, how it all works. I've been doing these live on Instagram and Facebook every day for the last two weeks, so if you missed any of them feel free to go back there. We may or may not also be launching a Traffic Secrets podcast that'll have the recordings of these too. That may be live in the next day or so, I'll let you guys know and then you can start listening in there as well, which will be kind of cool.

All right, here we go, Traffic Secrets. So what we covered so far. Section number one is all about your dream customer. Secret One we figure out who's your dream customer. We talked about figuring out and understanding them at a deep level. Figuring out are they moving towards pleasure or away from pain? What's interesting in this market today, I think two weeks ago a majority of customers were moving towards pleasure. Which meant your ads, your advertising is all focused on grabbing people or trying to move towards pleasure. Over the last two weeks, people are in pain and they're now in a state where they're moving away from pain.

Looking at that lens, most of our advertising and marketing should be shifting from speaking to them moving towards pleasure to speaking to them moving away from pain. So there's a little hint from Section number one. We also talked about the difference between a searcher and a scroller. What advertising networks people are searching, which ones they're scrolling and how you differentiate your ads and your landing pages and everything based on if they're a searcher or a scroller, the pros and the cons. That was all secret number one.

Number two we talked about now you know who they are. Where are they hiding? Where are they congregating? We've got to find those pockets of our dream customers so we can go and target them. We also talked about then who's already congregated and who are our dream 100? And we built the list of our dream 100.

After that, secret number three, we talked about hook story offer. How do we throw our hooks in the water to grab their attention and we tell the story to increase perceived value of what it is we're selling them and then how we make them an offer.

And secret number four. Yesterday we talked about with your dream 100 how do you work your way in and how do you buy your way in? And that's what brings us today.

Today we're talking about secret number five, which is traffic that you own. So I'm going to jump right there, we're going to go through that. This is the best type of traffic of all the types of traffic that are out there. So many things I have to gloss through because this book is super huge and I can't just cover every... make sure you still get the book and read it because there's so many things, like in here, just in the last chapter, I walk through five of our front end funnels. I'll show you the stats, numbers, every single funnel, how it works. I talk about how much you spend on traffic, how much on ads.

I give you very detailed numbers. It's like six pages of the numbers of the funnel that you can get inside the book and look at and say, okay, here's the product. How much is it sold for? Here's the order form bump. Here's the commissions, the percentages, here's how it all worked. I breakdown every funnel in great detail. Those are all things I can't do on a live like this that you get inside the book.

Okay. Secret number five, traffic that you own. So if you look at the image here, you can see here is the dream 100, right. If you've done this exercise with me over the last couple days, here's Facebook, here's all the people that have already congregated my dream customers on Facebook. Here's Instagram, here's a lot of people that have already congregated in my dream customers Instagram. On Facebook, on YouTube, on Google, we find those people, we have our dream 100 list.

Now we're trying to figure out from yesterday how do I work my way in and how do I buy my way into these audiences, okay? Because that's where are traffic's already at, we're just trying to work out way and buy our way in into the audiences. And then from there, this is what this whole secret's about: Traffic v. Yield. So all the time we're getting traffic, our goal's not to get traffic to sell products, our goal is to get traffic where we're either getting traffic that we've earned or traffic we control and we're converting it into traffic that we own. That's the big secret, okay.

So, for example, traffic that I earn. If I'm earning traffic, it means I'm going out and I'm working for it, right. I'm getting on podcast interviews, I'm doing Facebook lives with people. I'm getting somebody to promote my product for me. This is stuff I'm not paying for, but I'm earning it, I'm putting in the time and the energy and the effort, okay.

Traffic I control is I go to Facebook, right. And I don't own Facebook ads, right? Mark Zuckerberg, he owns all that traffic on Facebook, but he allows me and you to go to him and say, "Hey, I want to control some of that traffic. I will pay you if you let me divert some of that traffic from Facebook over into my funnel," okay? It's the traffic you control. There's traffic that I earn, I'm working my way in. There's traffic that I control, where I'm buying my way in.

Now the goal of both those traffic sources is not just to sell a product. This is where most people get it wrong. This is the very shortsightedness of almost all entrepreneurs. They're like, "Oh, cool, I bought traffic from Facebook. I'm going to sell my product." Yes, that's part of the goal, but the bigger goal, the overarching strategy is to convert traffic that you earn and traffic that you control into traffic that you own.

When you own traffic, you own your own destiny, right? If Facebook shutdown tomorrow, I'd be okay because I have an email list of, I don't know, one and a half to almost 2,000,000 people. So I own that traffic. Any day I can wake up like, "I want to send traffic to this." I can send an email and, boom, traffic goes there. I launch a new book, I want to send traffic here. Because I own that traffic, I own this ball of traffic, I can send it to this page or this page or that page. I can send it wherever I want because I own that traffic, okay?

So all the other things I'm doing, all the other exercises of buying ads and working my way into doing podcast interviews and all those things, the only goal of those things is to convert the traffic that I'm controlling and then buying, or that I'm earning and controlling, into traffic that I own, because then I control my own destiny.

For me, for the last few years, I've been working on that. For the last decade and a half I've been building my list, building my following, it's traffic that I own now. Even if Facebook disappears, if Google goes away tomorrow, I'm still going to be in business because I own traffic, okay? And that's the mindset shift of what you guys are all having, that you need to understand that you want to be able to own that traffic, okay? So that's what this whole secret's about, owning traffic.

When I first kind of started understanding this, let's see... When I first started understanding this, it was back early in my journey. One of my first mentors was a guy named Mark Joiner. Some of you guys know Mark, he's amazing. He's the one who kept telling me, "Russ, we have to focus on building a list, building a list, that's the secret to internet marketing. Building a list, building a list." And I remember at the time there were all these people that were doing different ways to make money. And I was so grateful that my first mentor told me, "You have to build lists, you have to build lists," because that thing has saved me now for a decade and a half. During the ups and downs of the trials of my business and the safe parts of my business. Having a list has helped me to endure.

The people who have email lists right now, are the ones who are going to thrive during this whole crazy recession and depression, whatever ends up happening. I don't even know what's going to happen. But those people are surviving because they're prepared for that, right? It's very important to understand that.

Let's see. There's so many things I could share with you guys. Just get the book and read it, it's so good! Anyway. Okay. Oh, there's a story in here, but the story's four pages long. Part of me wants to read it, and part of me is like if I read that I'd lose half of you guys. I'll tell you the gist of the story and I'll read one part of it.

So this was the day that I learned about list-building, the day it really got sunk in my head. I was like, "Oh my gosh, I need an email list," right? In fact, I told this story yesterday on an interview with Jim Edwards, it was kind of fun. All right, when I first started learning about this whole game of internet marketing, I started hearing people talk about email list.

I remember reading and article online and it was about... sometimes you hear about the gurus and they make $30,000 in a weekend and you think it's scam, right? And the guy's like, "No, it's not a scam. Let me explain how this whole thing works." And he explained, he said, "The gurus, whatever you want to call them, they have an email list of maybe 10,000 people, or 30, or a 100,000 people." He said, "All they do is an email out to a 100,000 people and if they send an email to a 100,000 people and they get 10,000 people who actually go and sign up for the thing," right.

"Say you send an email to 100,000 people, 10,000 people open the email, 5,000 click through to the thing, and then 500 of those people actually buy the product and let's say it's a $20 product, you just made 10 grand or 30 grand, whatever the math is," right. And he's just like, "It's just a numbers game." He said, "The reason why these gurus make a ton of money is because they spent the last X amount of time building up these huge email lists, right, traffic that they own."

And when I read that I was like, "Oh my gosh," it was the epiphany and all of a sudden I understood." I was like, "I need my own email list." I didn't know how to get an email list. So the first thing I did was I jumped on Mr. Google. I said, "How do you get an email list?" And I started searching around and within a few minutes I found this website. I can't remember the domain exactly, I think it was spam for emailaddresses.com. I was like, "Sweet, that's what I need, spam for email addresses."

So I went and there was some DVDs where you could buy a DVD with a 100,000 email addresses, one with 500,000, one with a 1,000,000. I'm like, "Well, if I'm going to get an email list, I want a 1,000,000." So I spent 70 bucks and bought a DVD with a million email addresses on it. I waited for it to get sent to me, I get this thing with 70,000,000 email addresses. I'm like, "I'm going to be rich." I'm doing the math in my head. Send an email to a 1,000,000 people, if I get a 100,000 to open, 10,000 to click, 5,000 to buy the thing times $20. If I could send an email every single day, I'm going to be rich.

I'm doing the math in my head, I'm trying to explain to my wife, we'd just gotten married at the time. "You can literally quit your job tomorrow. We are going to be rich. I figured out the secret of internet marketing. This is going to be so easy." So I took this DVD, and back then the way we sent emails was different. It wasn't through an email auto responder, you had to buy desktop software. So I bought the software, I put it on my desktop and I uploaded the DVD with a 100,000,000 people's email addresses.

I wrote an email and I remember that night, about to go to bed. And you have to remember this was almost 15 years ago. It was, no, probably 16-17 years ago. Anyway, it was before we have high speed internet, before we had cell phones, things like that. If you remember the internet back then, usually you had one phone line and it was your phone or your modem. So I had to crawl under my desk, unplug the phone and plug in my modem, get online. I remember that night writing an email, clicking send and then telling my wife I was like, "We'll be rich by morning. You can literally quit your job tomorrow."

And I remember sitting there watching the email software, boom, one email sent, two emails sent, three, four. I'm like, "Oh, this is amazing!" I go to bed that night and I'm like a kid at Christmas time, laying there in bed thinking about it. Every couple of hours I get out of bed and run in, move the mouse to get my screensaver off and 600 sent, 800 sent, 2000 sent. I'm just freaking out, right?

So finally the next morning I wake up, my wife's getting ready for work, I'm getting ready for school. And I sneak back in the room where the computer's at, I look at it. And overnight we'd sent, I think we'd sent 6500 emails or something like that during the night. And I was like, "Dang it, I thought I was going to send a million overnight. It's going way slower than I thought." Then Colette was like, "I need to use the phone." I'm like, "You have to use the phone? You don't understand, we're printing cash right now, we cannot use the phone." She's like, "I have to use the phone. I have to call someone at work."

So I crawl under the desk, I go and unplug the modem, I plug back in the phone and as soon as I plug it in, I'm still under the desk, I hear the phone ring, brrg. I get out, I pick up the phone and on the other end was my internet service provider yelling at me and screaming at me and cursing me out. Telling me how many spam complaints that they got in the last four or five hours. They're shutting me down and they're going to potentially file a lawsuit and all this stuff. I just like, oh, crap, and I totally freaked out. Finally, the guy hangs up on me, shuts off my internet.

I hang up the phone and Colette's like, "Who's that on the phone?" I'm like, "Uh, nobody. Oh, and by the way, please don't quit today. Just wait it out a couple days." She kind of laughs at me. Anyway, she goes to work and that day I'm kind of bummed out. I'm licking my wounds and I go and I put my backpack on and I'm walking to school. I get to school and I'm super bummed out because I lost internet. I can't even check my email, I've no internet right now. I go into the computer lab at school and I check my emails.

I said I felt like, "I wonder if anybody bought anything?" So I logged into my PayPal account like I did many times prior, and every time I logged into PayPal in the past, there's always a big zero on top. How much money did you make? Zero dollars. I'm like, "Ah." And I logged in this time and guess what? It didn't say zero. First time ever, it said 70. I was like, "What?" I was like, "I made 70 bucks." The way I did it apparently was illegal, but I did it, I made 70 bucks. This actually works!

And it was the proof I needed. This whole thing actually works. This whole idea of having a list works. I did it the wrong way, but there's got to be a right way to do this. So it started me on this journey of I have to figure out the legitimate way to build the email list because other people are doing it. I got a little taste of it, I made 70 bucks the wrong way so I got to figure out the right way.

So I started this journey of I have to learn how to build a list, have to learn how to build the list. That became my obsession for the next decade of my life and it's still an obsession today, which is why I have a big email list, because I focus on it. In fact, every single day we have a company-wide meeting. We call it the Click Funnels Pulse Meeting. And one of the stats we share every single day is how many people joined our list yesterday? That's the number we're looking at. It's a metric, it's a KPI in our company. How many people today joined your list?

It was interesting for all of you guys who are watching this, if you're not looking at that metric daily, your list probably isn't growing. I've seen some people who have a business, they'll grow a list and they get 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 people on the list and then they stop and go, "Oh, I got a list." And they send emails to the list and they're making money so their fine. But what happens is that list will start to atrophy over time, get smaller, smaller and eventually your business just disappears and dies.

Your focus point is you need to consistently, continually always be building your list. That should be the number one metric. You wake up every morning, how many people joined my list yesterday? How many joined yesterday? I remember the first time I got that, one of my friends, Dagen Smith, he told me that. He asked me, "How many people a day join your email list?" I'm like, "I don't know." He's like, "You don't know that number?" "I mean people are joining, but I don't look at that." He's like, "Dude, what you watch, what you measure grows." And so I was like, "Okay. I'm going to start looking it."

I started looking at it. I remember at the time there's probably 60-70 people a day joining my list, and so I started watching it. And what's crazy is I started looking at the numbers every single day, it started making me upset in my head. "Ah, only 70 people." Then your subconscious mind starts looking for ways. "Well, how do I make this bigger? How do I make it bigger?" As I'm sitting there thinking how to make it bigger, new ideas pop in my head. Then I morph from 70 a day to 100 a day to a 150 a day, and 500 a day to a 1,000 a day, to 2,000 a day. And it became the focal point of my business.

For all you guys, when you start getting this book, that's what I talk about. All the things you're doing, from traffic you control, the traffic you're buying, the traffic that you're earning, the goal of all that traffic is just to convert into traffic that you own, which is your list. Your list is the key. If you look at, "What's the biggest secret of the Russ Brunson's internet marketing?" Your list is the key. You need to be building your list. That's the big aha, okay? You have to understand that.

All the things I'm doing, from Facebook live to videos, to podcast interviews, to buying ads, the goal of all the thing is to build my list. And the key metric, the KPI I look at every single day, the most important one of my business for me, is how many people today joined my list? Okay. So all you guys need to be focusing on that. That's the big thing.

Someone said, "What software do you use?" I use this weird software called Click Funnels. Click Funnels builds my list, it does everything.

All right. That's the big thing to understand. Okay. So there's my little tangent, the way to understand, it's the traffic that you own, okay? And I told you that story already. When I'm doing all this stuff, when I'm buying ads, when I'm earning traffic, the goal of both of those is to get into traffic that I own, right? So when I'm on a podcast interview, I'm doing a podcast and I'm earning traffic while I'm there and being interviewed. At the end of it what do I say? At the end of it I'm like, "Hey, by the way, I got this cool new book called Traffic Secrets. Go to trafficsecrets.com to get a free copy." People go to trafficsecrets.com, they click on the button, they put in their what? Email address. Then what happens? They join my list. Oh. That's the goal.

If I do the podcast interviews, not just do an interview. I do an interview the interview's not like that's okay. Yeah, I want to sell copies of the book, but the only reason I'm trying to sell copies of the book is I want you on my email list because that's the game, okay? Hopefully, that helps you understand that.

So all the traffic you're buying, all the traffic your earning is all going into one spot where you can build an email list because that's the secret of internet marketing. If you look at these, some of you guys have already seen this. This is one of my squeeze pages, okay. If you go to marketingsecrets.com/blackbook, this is one. This lead page alone has generated over 300,000 leads for me. 300,000 leads, okay, boom. This is where my book funnels.

The goal of it is to get somebody to join the email list. I'm sending people from all these places to spots. You notice that every page I send somebody to, like right now I sent you to trafficsecrets.com. When you go there, guess what happens if you click on the button? You join my list. I send you to funnelsclick.com, you go there you get this free stuff or I give you this bait to go watch Frank Kern's presentation, Julius', and mine, right. It's four hours of free video, but what happens if you watch those videos? You give me your email address. Now you join my list.

I'm working my way right now to you guys, right. We'll then buy ads to this video, which I'll be buying my way in, but the goal of all of them is to get you on my email list, right? I've been telling you you got two email lists today. That's my goal. I'm trying to convert all this traffic that I'm earning, right, I'm earning it, right. We've still got 160 viewers on Instagram, we got 185 in Facebook. We'll push these things live over the next two or three weeks. We'll probably get, I don't know, 50 to 100,000 people to watch this video.

From that, hopefully, I'll get, I don't know, 20-30,000 people to join my list from it. That's why I'm doing these exercises, okay. That's why we do all this stuff. So I hope you guys understand that.

Okay, one more thing I'll talk about list-building, just to give you guys some metrics to make this really tangible for you and then we'll wrap it for today. When I got started, I had one of my friends, who's actually Mike Filsaime, I love Mike. Mike told me, he said, "You should average, on average you should make at least one dollar per month, per name on your email list." And I didn't know if that was high or low. It's actually really low. You should make more than that, but this is a really good baseline, right?

So what that means, let's say you got a 100 people on your email list. You should average one dollar per month, per name on your email list. So I got a 100 people on my email list, I should make at least a 100 bucks a month from those people. I got a 1,000 people on my email list, I should be making a 1,000 bucks a month. If I've got 50,000 people on my email list, I should make 50,000 a month and so on and so forth, right?

And for you guys who are starting your business, you're growing your company, you're like, "How do I grow my company?" That's the big secret. How many people are on your email list right now? If I ask you and you're I don't know, then you don't have a business. You're goofing around, okay. Engagement on Instagram does not count as an email list, right? The goal of engagement on Instagram is to get people to go to your email list and join your list, right? That's the tangible business that we're in.

I remember he told me that, I was like okay. So I started at that point, it was my very first product called Zip Brander and I had it top of my list. I started driving traffic to it. I remember the very first month I got 217 people. Isn't funny you remember some random numbers like that? 217 people joined my email list that very first month. In that month, I think I made $300 in sales. I was like, okay, that's a little more than a one dollar per name. I'm going to keep focusing.

I took that money that I made, I reinvested it back into more traffic. I got more people in and in month number two I had 600 people on my list. That month I made like 800 bucks. I was like, uh. So I reinvested that 800 bucks back into ads, I kept doing it, and soon I got to 2,000 people on my list and 1500 people, then 2,000 people on my list. And that number stayed pretty sync. When I had 2,000 people on my list I was making a little over a two grand a month. When I had 5,000 people on my list, I made five grand a month. When I had a 100,000 people on my list I was making a 100 grand.

Now I'm at over 1.7, 1.8 million people on my email list, we make more than that per month, right? So those numbers sync. And what's interesting is you get better at this game, you get better communicating with your audience, better making offers, better telling stories. All this I'm teaching you through these books that number will go up. You shouldn't just make a one dollar per name on your email list. You can make five dollars or $10. Sometimes I see local businesses where the list is small, they only have 800 people on their list, 500 people on their list. It's usually because of the relationship, because they're local they're able to make 10, 20, 30 bucks per name per email on their email list, okay?

I want to give you that number as a metric. Because if some of you guys are like, "I need to retire." "I want to work from home," I want to do whatever, right? That's the number you should be looking at, right? If you're thinking I need to make six figures a year. Okay, if you had 10,000 people on your email list, you're averaging one dollar per month per name, that's 10 grand a month times 12 months, that's 120,000 a year. If you can focus, and get 10,000 people on your email list, based on the math, you should be making 120,000 bucks a year, your six figures a year.

If you're like, I need to make five grand a month to survive, cool, you should be focusing on building a list of 5,000 people. You get a list of 5,000 people, you should, based on the math, if you do it okay, you should be making 5,000 grand a month.

If you're I want to make a 1,000,000 bucks. I want to hit two comma club, cool. It's just a math game, right? That means if you want two comma club, you need to focus on getting a 100,000 people on your list, 100,000 people times 12 months is 1.2 million bucks a year. That's the game, you guys. That's what you've got to start to understand. The list is the secret. That's the metric, that's the thing we're all focusing on.

So all this traffic stuff we're doing, as much fun as it is, like how do you Facebook ads, and Google ads, and do integration marketing? And how do you do growth hacking? All the things we're talking... as exciting as those things are, and they are, they're pretty amazing. The real secret, the real big aha, is that all the focus point of that is to turn it into traffic that you actually own. And I think tomorrow we're actually going to talk about followup funnels. I'm pretty sure.

So tomorrow, we're going to talk about followup funnels. So followup funnels is like now someone's on my list, now what do I do with it? How do you make a dollar per name per month, Russell? Well, you do it by the followup funnel. This is the sequences and tomorrow we're going to go deep into that. But I'll give you guys a hint, just so you know. I was doing a... and I'll show this tomorrow, we'll go deep into this.

I was looking at my front end funnels and we did a 30 day snapshot in a window. And in a 30 day window, for every dollar we made on one of our front end funnels, those are the funnels that buy ads too where I push stuff through like this. I'm buying my way, working my way, for every dollar I make in that front end funnel, we made $16.49 in the next 30 days through the followup funnels. These are the emails and messages that are sent to them over the next 30 days.

So that's the big secret, you guys. So, again, I will share that with you guys tomorrow. If I can do nothing else, to drill into your brain, say the traffic secret to drill in your brain today, the most important thing you'll be focusing on is traffic that you own. How do you convert all the traffic you're earning, all the traffic you're buying into traffic that own? Because then when the storms come, and they're coming, you're feeling it right now. When the recession hits, when the depressions hit, when Facebook is shutdown by the government, when whatever. The platform you're on, the people are huge on buying and then buying got destroyed and then people have podcasts. Let's say the podcasts disappear. Who knows what it's going to be?

But as long as you're focusing all your efforts on one thing, traffic that you own, you'll survive the hard times, okay? I've survived two collapses of the economy, excuse me, one big collapse of the economy, two collapses of my business. I've survived all these things because of one thing, and one thing alone: I have my email list. That's the big secret. You guys got that? That's the big secret. So always have to think about that today. In fact, that should be your goal right now, as you get off this thing, start thinking, okay, how big is my email list today? That's number one. If it's zero people, now's the time to start, okay. But look at it, how big is your email list, that's number one.

Then number two, how many people per day are joining it, okay? Again, if that's zero, then that's the next thing, how do I get people every day to do it? Then number three, okay, how do I make that number bigger? What you measure grows. So if you start measuring it, it'll grow, or shrink if you're in weight loss, right? If you're measuring your waist every day, you don't want it to grow, but it'll shrink.

But in business you want it to grow. So whatever you measure will grow. So every single day the number you should be looking for is how much did my list grow today? How many leads have I got today? That's what you got to start focusing on, okay. Help you guys to survive the storms or the craziness, that's just as important.

So there you guys go. That is the Traffic Secret for today I'm going to share. We had a good turnout today. You guys must be bored out of your minds at home during the quarantine. So if you are, what I recommend doing right now... by the time we hangout tomorrow, you guys could listen to this entire book. Go to trafficsecrets.com, you can pre-order a hardbound copy of this book for free. They don't ship until May 5th though, but the order form bump is the audio book of this. If you get the audio book you can plug it into your ears and you could listen to it. It's seven hours of me reading the entire book, word-for-word. By this time tomorrow, you can have it done, we can get back to work. That's your challenge.

While you're sitting around, go do it. Let's go. Trafficsecrets.com, get the hardbound book. There's also a whole bunch of amazing video bonuses you get. You get a presentation from Prince Ea who has over three billion views on Facebook. He does a presentation you get for free in there. Payne June talks about how he does his social media, presentation for me about traffic. A bunch of cool stuff you get for free in there. You just got to go get the book for free and then get the audio book you can start listening to today, if you want.

Those who have been asking about how do you get the whole box set. The upsale flow you can get the box set in the upsale flow, so that's there as well. And then, you guys, after you've done that and you're like, "I need more stuff, Russ. I want to keep geeking out. I want to sharpen myself, want my brain to get bigger." Then just go to right here, funnelflix.com. Click Funnels has entered the streaming wars, we are trying to destroy Disney+ and Netflix and all the others. No, I'm just kidding. This is way better. But you guys get a free week at funnelsflix.com, it's called Free Premiere Week. You can go there. You put your email address in, click submit and you can get the first four presentations for free.

First one's from my man Frank Kern. One of the original OGs in internet marketing. He's one of the dudes I was learning from when I got started. He did a secret presentation at Funnel Hacking Live. Nobody knew he was coming and when he came out on stage, they flipped out. Anyway, his presentation is there for free. You have funnelflix.com, put your email address in here, and then what happens? Oh, you joined my list! "What? Russ practices what he preaches! Oh, this is so crazy." You joined my email list, right?

Boom, you watch Frank's presentation. Then, number two, you go right here, and you watch the presentation of Julius, who built an Instagram following of I think 5 or 6,000,000 people. He's a magician, his presentation was insane. His magic is awesome. Then over here you've got a presentation from me on your value ladder which is awesome. Anyway. So funnelflix.com, so trafficsecrets.com get your book. Funnelflix.com go geek out, you've got free premiere week over here, bunch of cool stuff.

With that said, you guys, I appreciate you all hanging out. Tomorrow we'll be back. Tomorrow we're going to go into followup funnels, which will be a lot of fun. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Anyway, appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out today. If you got any value from this, please call me down below and let me know. If you're on Facebook watching this, please share it. That'd be awesome too. I don't know, can you share this on Instagram live? I don't really know how that works. But feel free to share this if you got any value, it'd mean the world to me. Thank you guys for hanging out, appreciate you all. And we'll see you guys all again tomorrow. Bye.

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]]> 2063 no Attract Your Dream Customers RIGHT NOW (And In The Future)! (TS) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/attract-your-dream-customers-right-now-and-in-the-future-ts Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to learn how to systematically attract your dream customers overnight... and how to get in front of them over and over again? On this episode, Russell Brunson will teach you... Why you should dig your well before you're thirsty. Why he spent 10 YEARS building a relationship with Tony Robbins (that paid off!). How to attract your dream customer RIGHT NOW and how to attract your dream customers over the long-term (BUY your way in or WORK your way in!). Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, hey. What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to, what do we call this, Quarantine Traffic TV? We should be talking about viral traffic, how viruses grow. We actually are going to be talking about viral growth, viral traffic towards the end of the Traffic Secrets book. When we get to growth hacking, there's bunch of really cool things. But, we will save that for another day. Just checking in on everybody. Hope you guys are doing great. I know it's crazy times, a lot of things are happening, but a lot of good things are happening in the world right now, too, and just grateful for just so many amazing people who are publishing. I went live yesterday to our 2 Comma Club collective group and I told everyone, I said, "Look, now is the time for you to all be publishing. Your people need you. They need faith. They need hope in a better world. They need things like that to happen. It's time to start publishing." We're going to get deeper into that in the next couple episodes here as we're talking about Traffic Secrets, about publishing and finding your voice and things like that, but now is the time. Your people need you more than ever. It's important for you to go out there and start sharing. Even though it's scary and even though all the stuff, it's time to be a light for the people that follow you. Today, we are getting back into Traffic Secrets. Hope you guys have been enjoying this so far. Have you guys enjoyed these, going live every day? It's been fun for me to kind of start and of kick off the day. Hopefully, it's been good for you guys as well to give you something to think about and talk about and brainstorm on throughout the day. One of mantras I've had in my business for the last, man, probably 10 years or so is this concept of how do you give yourself a raise every single day? Every day, I wake up in the morning and I'm like, "How do I give myself a raise today?" Because think about in the real world, the only way to give yourself a raise is to go back to school. If you're a doctor and you want to give yourself a raise, you got to go back to like four more years of medical school or postgraduate school or things like that. As an entrepreneur, it's kind of fun because I can come into my office and be like: "Okay, if I can increase the conversions on my page; that gives me a raise today. If I can get more traffic coming into my funnels, that's giving me a raise today." There's all these little things we can do to give ourselves a raise every single day. Hopefully, this hanging out with you guys, talking about Traffic and going through the Traffic Secrets book, is giving you guys ideas as you come every day to listen for tip, a hit, an idea, something that you can grab that'll be the thing that'll give you a raise today. The more you guys do that, the better so it's kind of fun. Anyway, we're in the middle of the Traffic Secrets book launch. I think we're halfway through the official launch. It's been going amazingly well. The funnel's converting well, the books are selling like crazy. I want to thank you guys all for participating, even though times are crazy. I think this is the time for all of us to start sharpening our saws. You look at the best companies in the world were all built during these times of economic uncertainty. And so your business, your following, your brand, it is the time to start building it now. All right, so here we go. You guys want to jump into Traffic Secrets again? I've been going through chapter by chapter every day. Some days we've covered half a chapter, but I'm going to be moving into the next stuff. If you don't have your copy yet, we're in pre-order right now. You can go get trafficsecrets.com to go get your copy. They're there. It's free plus shipping, so it costs you I think 9.95 US, 19.95 international. We start shipping these on May 5th, so you may have to wait a little bit to get them but the audiobook, which I recorded, it's seven hours of me reading this entire book, is available right now. Every single day, we're going live and I'm going through the book so while you waiting for the book to come, also I'm sharing with you guys so you can start getting the wheels in your head spinning and get the ideas coming forth. Anyway, if you haven't got it yet, go to trafficsecrets.com and get book. I'd recommend getting the audiobook because you can listen the whole thing tonight. It took me three days to record, but it's seven hours of audio. You can listen to it all day today and by to this time tomorrow have the book done and in your head and understanding it all perfectly well. All right. And then on top of that, there's like five, I think it's five bonus videos you get when you get Traffic Secrets book that each of those by themselves, we could sell for a couple hundred bucks. You get them all for free when you go to trafficsecrets.com and get your free book. I think I said free like 40 times so far. It's time. Anyway. All right. Everyone's asking, "What's Unlock Secrets?" Oh, well there's DotCom Secrets, which is book number one in the series; Expert Secrets, book number two; Traffic Secrets, book number three. Unlock Secrets is a workbook that goes with all of them to help mush them all together and mushify them. But right now, we're talking about the Traffic Secrets book. Okay, so should we dive in? Let's recap what we talked about so far. In the introduction, we talked about the fact there's a storm coming and then it's crazy that we're in the middle of literally... Well, in Boise we're actually having a storm outside, but we're in the middle of this economic storm. It's scary times right now. It's kind of, I don't know, kind of creepy. I wrote this probably 18 months ago, but the introduction starts with "There's a storm coming," and it's talking about... The reason I wrote this book is because there's a storm coming. Businesses are going to be struggling. The lifeblood of every business is what? Traffic. The lifeblood is customers. Right now, in these crazy economic times, the life preserver you have for your business is literally traffic. It's the customers coming around you and it's building up customers that'll be there for a lifetime. Anyway, so the introduction talked about the fact that there's a storm coming, how to prepare for it. Then section number one was all about your dream customer, who is the person you want to serve, and then really understanding them at a deeper level. Are they someone who's moving towards pleasure and moving away from pain? Are they a searcher? Are they a scroller? Where are we finding these people at? How are we interrupting them? That was all in section one, which is one of my favorite chapters. Hope you guys enjoyed that one. Section two, or secret number two then, was now that we know who our dream customers are, secret two is where are they actually hiding? I need to find those people. They got to be hiding somewhere. We talked about congregations and how to identify them. And then in the third video we did like this, we talked about the dream 100. Who's already congregating those people? Where are they at? I had you guys do an exercise, so hopefully you did. It's on page 41 in the book when you get the book. Basically, it was going through each platform. So on Facebook, who are the people that have already congregated your dream customers? Who are the people who already have big Facebook following and writing their names down. Then who are the people who already have big YouTube channels and writing those names down. Who are the people who have big podcasts of your dream customers? Instagram channels, bloggers, big email lists, who are the people that have already congregated the customers you want to have and you want to serve? You got to start listing those people out. That's the first step here in the dream 100. We're going to come back to that today, so I want to make sure you guys have done that and prepared there. And then yesterday, we talked about my favorite concepts, which is hook, story, offer. Whoop. We talked a lot about that. If you missed that one, all these are being posted on Facebook. They're on Facebook long term, so you can go and watch those on Facebook. We may or may not be putting out a Traffic Secrets podcast of these episodes as well because some people have been asking for the replay. That may be coming to you. But today, we're going into secret number four. Secret number four, you guys ready for this? Secret number four is called work your way in and buy your way in. If you read the original DotCom Secrets book, I talk about there's three types of traffic. How many of you guys remember this? There's three types of traffic. This is internet marketing school 101. There is traffic that you control, there's traffic that you earn and there's traffic that you own. There's three types of traffic. Today, we're going to be talking about two of those three types. All right, so working your way in and buying your way. In fact, let me see what's the best way I could share with this. Oh, yeah. It's interesting. When we were launching ClickFunnels five and a half years ago, as you guys know, I'm the non-technical co-founder, which means I got no skills. I can't code, I can't write software, so everyone's writing software for me because I can't do it. Todd and Dylan were creating software. And so it was like what was my job in this whole thing? My job was to figure out, when the doors open on day one, how am I going to make sure that there's traffic coming into our funnel so that people are lined up waiting to create a trial? While they're up all night coding, drinking Red Bulls and doing the hackathon, stuff like that, I was hanging out with them, figuring out, "Okay, I got to figure out dream 100. Who are the people who's got our dream customers?" And so I built my whole dream 100 list, just like I just showed you guys right now and how we did this… actually I did this a couple days ago. I built out the dream 100, and then I started contacting them and calling them and messaging them and sending them stuff in the mail and getting to know them and all sorts of things. After I figure out my dream 100, there's two things I'm trying to do. One, I'm trying to work my way in and number two, I'm trying to buy my way in. Working your way in is, how do I get those people who already have my dream customers to promote me? All you guys have been watching this Traffic Secrets book launch. I have a lot of people who said, "My entire Facebook and Instagram and YouTube feeds are all filled with people talking about Traffic Secrets." Literally, it's my dream 100. It's people I've been building relationships with for years who I say, "I got a new book coming out. Do you want to talk about it?" And they have. I worked my way into those relationships. Those people are promoting it. I'm not paying them. They are affiliates, so they will get paid commissions if they sell a book, but I didn't buy ads from them. I said, "Hey, do you want to promote this?" They said yes. right. I worked my way in. If you look at how do you work your way into your dream 100, you could go through the book here on page number 57. I start walking you through the process. Step number one is called dig your well before you're thirsty. There's a book that Harvey Mackay wrote called Dig Your Well Before You're Thirsty. I remember reading that book and just being like, "Okay, that's the thing." A lot of times, people are like, "Well, when my product's done, then I'll go start working on my dream 100. I'll start building relationships. When I'm ready to launch, then I'll go do that." It's like no, no, no. You need to do that today because when your product's done, if you come to someone and the first time you meet like, "Hey, how's it going? My name's Russell. Do you want to promote my book?" they're going to be like, "Dude, I don't know who you are. All you're doing is asking me for favors and asking me for things." Your job is to start building a relationship today, immediately. Start digging you well before you're thirsty. That's why I led the book with this, because you should start doing this today. Let's say you do this on Instagram or on Facebook. Let's say Instagram, you figure who on Instagram already has my dream following. Who are the influencers who already have a huge list of people, a ton of followers of my dream customers? And then start messaging them. I read you guys a couple days ago in here talking about dreaming 100 Rachel Hall, when she launched her book that became the number two bestselling book of the year last year, only losing to Michelle Obama, come on now, first thing she did is she went to Instagram and found everyone who had her dream customers who had over 200,000 followers. She personally DMed every single one of them. She started working her way in, getting to know them, messaging them, sending them free copies of her product and getting to know them. Same thing with Tom Bilyeu from Quest. When they launched Quest Nutrition, same thing. He went to Instagram and found who was all the influencers who got my dream customers? I'm going to start working my way in and send them free samples, send them product and started working their way in. So that's step number one, is working your way and getting to know these people. When your product's launched, they should already know who you are. They should be friends. In fact, I think I tell a story in here of Tim Ferriss. When he launched The 4-Hour Workweek, he did the same thing. He said, "I'm writing a book. I need to start digging my well today." So he said, "Who's my dream 100? Who are the people that someday I'd love for them to promote my book?" He built a huge list of bloggers and podcasters and things like that. He started getting to know them, became friends with them, messaged them a year before he launched his book. He started digging his well before he was thirsty with these people, getting to know them as he's writing a book. Eventually people are like, "What do you do for a living?" He's like, "Oh, I'm an author. I'm writing a book." They're, "What's the book?" "It's not done yet. I'll tell you when it's done." But people are like, "This guy's really cool. He's just really nice." And then eventually Tim's like, "Hey, my book's done. Can I send you a free copy?" They're like, "Heck yeah," so he sent all these people free copies of The 4-Hour Workweek. And then he's like, "Hey, launch day is this day. If you like it, I'd love for you to write a blog post on launch day and tell the world." And on launch day, he had like, I don't know, a thousand bloggers on day one blogging about The 4-Hour Workweek. That built Tim Ferriss. And so this whole concept is how it works. You figure out your dream 100 is and step number one, you start digging your well before you're thirsty. I'm not going to spend too much time, but we talked about all the different ways to do that here inside the book and the ways you do it the right way and then the wrong way. Okay, let's see. Let me I make sure I'm doing this in the right order. Step number one is dig your well before you're thirsty. Step number two is you work your way in. It's interesting. Right now, while we're on quarantine, my kids and I and my wife are doing the Marvel marathon. We started with Captain America and then Captain Marvel. We're doing it chronologically so it's not when the movies released, but when they chronologically fit into time. So Captain America's number one, Captain Marvel. Last night, it was Iron Man. Tomorrow, or tonight, it's going to be Incredible Hulk. We're doing the whole marathon. As I was watching, I was thinking about... I remember when Infinity Wars came out and Endgame came out. How did they launch those movies? Thinking about this, what they did is that the movie theaters, Disney, they have relationships with the people that have their dream customers, so The Today Show, The Tonight Show, Good Morning America, Late Night, all the different talk shows. About a week before any of these movies go live, what happens? Again, let's just say that we're Hollywood right now. Hollywood builds out their dream... So here's your dream 100. I got to figure out how to work my way in and buy my way into these people. This is what Hollywood does. It's the same thing. It's like okay, here's the morning shows, the talk shows, late night talk shows. If we're going to promote this movie, we need to start working our way in today. And so what do they do? They go and all of a sudden, you see the guy who plays Thor, Chris Hemsworth, is on every single show talking about the movie. And then you got Iron Man going everywhere, and you got all the famous people going on all these shows, talking about the movie like, "This weekend, the movie's coming out. It's coming out. It's coming out." They're working their way in to all these channels, letting them know that this thing's about to go live. And then boom, movie goes live on the weekend. They make a billion dollars. That's how they launch movies. The same thing's true in our world, For the last two years that I've been writing this book, I built my dream 100. I got to know them. I built relationships. I sent free copies of the book. Now, I'm doing podcast interviews, Facebook Lives and all sorts of stuff, talking about my book, getting it out there to the world. Same thing's true for your product. It's the same thing. You start working your way in. We call it working your way in or earning your traffic because it's free. You're not paying for it. You're paying for it with your time, your relationships. But it's the best kind of traffic because it's... First off, doesn't cost you any money. Number two, usually it's coming with a personal recommendation. It's the best type of traffic you can get. So work our way in. The first goal is to work our way into everyone's side of the dream 100. In fact on page 64, you see, well, here's a picture of it there. Personally, I try to figure out how to work my way in. I go through all my podcast lists. How do I get on everyone's podcasts? I want to hit the podcast circuits. Here's all my YouTubers. How do I get on the YouTube circuit? Here's all the people that Facebook live, people who have email list. I'm trying to work these circuits and get into every single person's thing. That's how I worked my way in. In fact, when I launched the Experts Secrets book, I show a picture here, but I spent... Some of you guys saw that video. I did a whole YouTube video about this. I spent 10 years building a relationship with Tony Robbins, my dream 100. When the Experts Secrets book came out, I said, "Hey, can you interview me about my book on your fan page?" He's like, "Okay," and he interviewed me. This interview got 3.1 million views, of Tony interviewing me when the last book came out. I was working my way in. Didn't cost me any money, but I got in there and got this free promotion. The first thing is working your way in. The second way is you buy your way in. Now in a perfect world, everyone in your dream 100 would just promote you for free. But the reality is for 10 years, for example, Tony Robbins didn't promote me for a decade that I was working my way in, working my way in, working my way in. But what's cool is during that time, while I'm working my way in and hoping to get him to promote me for free, I'm still able to go and buy my way in. I was able to go to Tony Robbins, he's my dream 100, and I targeted his fans, his followers on Facebook. I bought ads to his followers. I know his followers are my dream customers, so I bought ads to those people. I knew that Grant Cardone's followers are my dream customers, so I bought ads to those people and I did the same thing. There's two steps to the process. You figure out who your dream 100 is. Number one is you're going and you are working your way and trying to get free exposure to their following, to their fans, to their audiences. And then two, while you're trying to work your way in and get free exposure, you can also buy your way in. All the advertising platforms nowadays like Facebook and Instagram and YouTube allow you to buy ads directly targeting certain people. If I have your dream customers, you can buy ads and say, "Everyone who follows Russell Brunson, I want them to see my ad." You can do that really easily. If you're selling a health product, you can say, "Everyone who follows Dr. Oz, show them my product." While you're waiting for Dr. Oz to put you on the show someday in the future, while you're building a relationship and trying to get on his show to get all this exposure, at the same time you can be buying your way in today. You don't have to wait for him to say yes. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, the channels have already said yes to you. So I'm working my way in and I'm buying my way in. People always ask me, "What's better? Is it better to work your way in or to buy your way in? The reality is you want both. Here's a little graph here, if you can see. See? If I'm buying my way in, boom. I can get a big spike immediately. I start getting traffic like yesterday. I can get traffic super, super fast. I work my way in, it takes longer. But over the long term, you can get way more traffic from that. The reality is you want both. You want the immediate traffic in sales coming in from buying your way in, and you want the long-term consistent free traffic. If you're doing both at the same time, that's the best way to do it. ClickFunnels has built up of a lot of traffic from both things, free traffic that we're working our way in, as well as paid traffic that we're buying our way in. That's kind of where we're starting. I could spend like six years going on this, but you got to get the book, you guys. You have to get it. You can't say it about your own book, that's annoying, but I worked really hard on it so I can say that. I think it's really good. I'm really proud of it. It's funny, because when you're you finish writing it, you're so proud of it, and then there's this phase where you have to send it to people to read. Man, it is a scary, scary phase. I remember sending it to a whole bunch of my friends and just be like, "Here's my new book," and then just waiting and hoping and hoping. It's funny because at first, you don't hear back because books take a long time to read. You're just like, "Oh my gosh, they must hate it. I'm really, really scared." And then a couple weeks ago, I was at Tony Robbins' 60th birthday party, which was insane. I'm sitting there and I saw Garrett White across the room. He came over, gave me a hug. And then he's like, in the way Garrett says it, "Brother." He's like, "I read the new book." I'm like, "Oh yeah. What'd you think?" freaking out like, "I hope he..." And Garrett's been one of the biggest fans of DotCom and Expert Secrets that we have, one of our biggest promoters of the book. He's like, "This one's better than the other two." I was like, "What? Are you serious?" I'm like, "Oh, cool. Thanks." Inside, I'm freaking out because I've been so panicked, so nervous, so afraid that when people got this, what if they don't like it? It's the insecurities of the artist. You always will have it as you start putting your stuff out there. But it made me really happy that... Anyway, so far everyone who's had a chance to read it has loved it. So many of you guys have had a chance to listen the audiobook and sent amazing feedback. I'm grateful for it. Anyway, yes. I'm excited. If you guys don't have a copy of the book yet, now is the time. All you got to do is go to trafficsecrets.com. Again, we're in pre-order right now. These don't ship until May 5th, assuming that Amazon opens back up soon. Anyway, that's a story for the another day. May 5th, these start shipping. We'll be shipping from our warehouse, so you don't have worry about that. But if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you can pre-order. There's an order of form bump for an audiobook. If you want to start listening to it today, you can start listening today. I spent three days in the studio reading it. It's seven-hour audio, I think, of the whole book. You can start listening to today and have it ready by tomorrow. It's going to be awesome. Anyway, I'm excited for you guys. Hopefully, you enjoy the book when it comes out. I've got to jump. I've been working my way and I've got interviews starting in four minutes with a whole bunch of other people who are going to be talking about this book. I'm going to go jump off and jump on the calls with them, you guys. Yes, I practice what I preach. But now's time to get your book. Go to trafficsecrets.com. I hope you guys enjoy it. I hope you guys love it. And again, while you're ready for the book to show up, there's the audiobook you can upsell. There's five videos you get. One of them is me talking about Traffic Secrets at Funnel Hacking LIVE. There's one from Prince EA, who's over 3 billion views on YouTube. There's Peng Joon's video. There's a whole bunch of amazing Traffic videos you get instantly when you get the book, so go take advantage of that as well at trafficsecrets.com. Someone said, "Where at?" Anyway, I'm jumping off. I got a call in three minutes. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out with me today. We'll talk back tomorrow. Tomorrow, we're going to be going into the next secret, which is traffic that you own. This is the most important type of traffic, so we'll cover this tomorrow. Again, there's three types of traffic, traffic you control, traffic that you earn and traffic that you own. Tomorrow, we'll talk about traffic you own, the most important, most vital, most fun type of traffic. Thanks, you guys. Trafficsecrets.com. Appreciate you all. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Attract Your Dream Customers RIGHT NOW (And In The Future)! (TS) full 453 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to learn how to systematically attract your dream customers overnight... and how to get in front of them over and over again? On this episode, Russell Brunson will teach... Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to learn how to systematically attract your dream customers overnight... and how to get in front of them over and over again? On this episode, Russell Brunson will teach you... Why you should dig your well before you're thirsty. Why he spent 10 YEARS building a relationship with Tony Robbins (that paid off!). How to attract your dream customer RIGHT NOW and how to attract your dream customers over the long-term (BUY your way in or WORK your way in!). Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, hey. What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to, what do we call this, Quarantine Traffic TV? We should be talking about viral traffic, how viruses grow. We actually are going to be talking about viral growth, viral traffic towards the end of the Traffic Secrets book. When we get to growth hacking, there's bunch of really cool things. But, we will save that for another day. Just checking in on everybody. Hope you guys are doing great. I know it's crazy times, a lot of things are happening, but a lot of good things are happening in the world right now, too, and just grateful for just so many amazing people who are publishing. I went live yesterday to our 2 Comma Club collective group and I told everyone, I said, "Look, now is the time for you to all be publishing. Your people need you. They need faith. They need hope in a better world. They need things like that to happen. It's time to start publishing." We're going to get deeper into that in the next couple episodes here as we're talking about Traffic Secrets, about publishing and finding your voice and things like that, but now is the time. Your people need you more than ever. It's important for you to go out there and start sharing. Even though it's scary and even though all the stuff, it's time to be a light for the people that follow you. Today, we are getting back into Traffic Secrets. Hope you guys have been enjoying this so far. Have you guys enjoyed these, going live every day? It's been fun for me to kind of start and of kick off the day. Hopefully, it's been good for you guys as well to give you something to think about and talk about and brainstorm on throughout the day. One of mantras I've had in my business for the last, man, probably 10 years or so is this concept of how do you give yourself a raise every single day? Every day, I wake up in the morning and I'm like, "How do I give myself a raise today?" Because think about in the real world, the only way to give yourself a raise is to go back to school. If you're a doctor and you want to give yourself a raise, you got to go back to like four more years of medical school or postgraduate school or things like that. As an entrepreneur, it's kind of fun because I can come into my office and be like: "Okay, if I can increase the conversions on my page; that gives me a raise today. If I can get more traffic coming into my funnels, that's giving me a raise today." There's all these little things we can do to give ourselves a raise every single day. Hopefully, this hanging out with you guys, talking about Traffic and going through the Traffic Secrets book, is giving you guys ideas as you come every day to listen for tip, a hit, an idea, something that you can grab that'll be the thing that'll give you a raise today. The more you guys do that, the better so it's kind of fun. Anyway, we're in the middle of the Traffic Secrets book launch. I think we're halfway through the official launch. It's been going amazingly well. The funnel's converting well, the books are selling like crazy. I want to thank you guys all for participating, even though times are crazy. I think this is the time for all of us to start sharpening our saws. You look at the best companies in the world were all built during these times of economic uncertainty. And so your business, your following, your brand, it is the time to start building it now. All right, so here we go. You guys want to jump into Traffic Secrets again? I've been going through chapter by chapter every day. Some days we've covered half a chapter, but I'm going to be moving into the next stuff. If you don't have your copy yet, we're in pre-order right now. You can go get trafficsecrets.com to go get your copy. They're there. It's free plus shipping, so it costs you I think 9.95 US, 19.95 international. We start shipping these on May 5th, so you may have to wait a little bit to get them but the audiobook, which I recorded, it's seven hours of me reading this entire book, is available right now. Every single day, we're going live and I'm going through the book so while you waiting for the book to come, also I'm sharing with you guys so you can start getting the wheels in your head spinning and get the ideas coming forth. Anyway, if you haven't got it yet, go to trafficsecrets.com and get book. I'd recommend getting the audiobook because you can listen the whole thing tonight. It took me three days to record, but it's seven hours of audio. You can listen to it all day today and by to this time tomorrow have the book done and in your head and understanding it all perfectly well. All right. And then on top of that, there's like five, I think it's five bonus videos you get when you get Traffic Secrets book that each of those by themselves, we could sell for a couple hundred bucks. You get them all for free when you go to trafficsecrets.com and get your free book. I think I said free like 40 times so far. It's time. Anyway. All right. Everyone's asking, "What's Unlock Secrets?" Oh, well there's DotCom Secrets, which is book number one in the series; Expert Secrets, book number two; Traffic Secrets, book number three. Unlock Secrets is a workbook that goes with all of them to help mush them all together and mushify them. But right now, we're talking about the Traffic Secrets book. Okay, so should we dive in? Let's recap what we talked about so far. In the introduction, we talked about the fact there's a storm coming and then it's crazy that we're in the middle of literally... Well, in Boise we're actually having a storm outside, but we're in the middle of this economic storm. It's scary times right now. It's kind of, I don't know, kind of creepy. I wrote this probably 18 months ago, but the introduction starts with "There's a storm coming," and it's talking about... The reason I wrote this book is because there's a storm coming. Businesses are going to be struggling. The lifeblood of every business is what? Traffic. The lifeblood is customers. Right now, in these crazy economic times, the life preserver you have for your business is literally traffic. It's the customers coming around you and it's building up customers that'll be there for a lifetime. Anyway, so the introduction talked about the fact that there's a storm coming, how to prepare for it. Then section number one was all about your dream customer, who is the person you want to serve, and then really understanding them at a deeper level. Are they someone who's moving towards pleasure and moving away from pain? Are they a searcher? Are they a scroller? Where are we finding these people at? How are we interrupting them? That was all in section one, which is one of my favorite chapters. Hope you guys enjoyed that one. Section two, or secret number two then, was now that we know who our dream customers are, secret two is where are they actually hiding? I need to find those people. They got to be hiding somewhere. We talked about congregations and how to identify them. And then in the third video we did like this, we talked about the dream 100. Who's already congregating those people? Where are they at? I had you guys do an exercise, so hopefully you did. It's on page 41 in the book when you get the book. Basically, it was going through each platform. So on Facebook, who are the people that have already congregated your dream customers? Who are the people who already have big Facebook following and writing their names down. Then who are the people who already have big YouTube channels and writing those names down. Who are the people who have big podcasts of your dream customers? Instagram channels, bloggers, big email lists, who are the people that have already congregated the customers you want to have and you want to serve? You got to start listing those people out. That's the first step here in the dream 100. We're going to come back to that today, so I want to make sure you guys have done that and prepared there. And then yesterday, we talked about my favorite concepts, which is hook, story, offer. Whoop. We talked a lot about that. If you missed that one, all these are being posted on Facebook. They're on Facebook long term, so you can go and watch those on Facebook. We may or may not be putting out a Traffic Secrets podcast of these episodes as well because some people have been asking for the replay. That may be coming to you. But today, we're going into secret number four. Secret number four, you guys ready for this? Secret number four is called work your way in and buy your way in. If you read the original DotCom Secrets book, I talk about there's three types of traffic. How many of you guys remember this? There's three types of traffic. This is internet marketing school 101. There is traffic that you control, there's traffic that you earn and there's traffic that you own. There's three types of traffic. Today, we're going to be talking about two of those three types. All right, so working your way in and buying your way. In fact, let me see what's the best way I could share with this. Oh, yeah. It's interesting. When we were launching ClickFunnels five and a half years ago, as you guys know, I'm the non-technical co-founder, which means I got no skills. I can't code, I can't write software, so everyone's writing software for me because I can't do it. Todd and Dylan were creating software. And so it was like what was my job in this whole thing? My job was to figure out, when the doors open on day one, how am I going to make sure that there's traffic coming into our funnel so that people are lined up waiting to create a trial? While they're up all night coding, drinking Red Bulls and doing the hackathon, stuff like that, I was hanging out with them, figuring out, "Okay, I got to figure out dream 100. Who are the people who's got our dream customers?" And so I built my whole dream 100 list, just like I just showed you guys right now and how we did this… actually I did this a couple days ago. I built out the dream 100, and then I started contacting them and calling them and messaging them and sending them stuff in the mail and getting to know them and all sorts of things. After I figure out my dream 100, there's two things I'm trying to do. One, I'm trying to work my way in and number two, I'm trying to buy my way in. Working your way in is, how do I get those people who already have my dream customers to promote me? All you guys have been watching this Traffic Secrets book launch. I have a lot of people who said, "My entire Facebook and Instagram and YouTube feeds are all filled with people talking about Traffic Secrets." Literally, it's my dream 100. It's people I've been building relationships with for years who I say, "I got a new book coming out. Do you want to talk about it?" And they have. I worked my way into those relationships. Those people are promoting it. I'm not paying them. They are affiliates, so they will get paid commissions if they sell a book, but I didn't buy ads from them. I said, "Hey, do you want to promote this?" They said yes. right. I worked my way in. If you look at how do you work your way into your dream 100, you could go through the book here on page number 57. I start walking you through the process. Step number one is called dig your well before you're thirsty. There's a book that Harvey Mackay wrote called Dig Your Well Before You're Thirsty. I remember reading that book and just being like, "Okay, that's the thing." A lot of times, people are like, "Well, when my product's done, then I'll go start working on my dream 100. I'll start building relationships. When I'm ready to launch, then I'll go do that." It's like no, no, no. You need to do that today because when your product's done, if you come to someone and the first time you meet like, "Hey, how's it going? My name's Russell. Do you want to promote my book?" they're going to be like, "Dude, I don't know who you are. All you're doing is asking me for favors and asking me for things." Your job is to start building a relationship today, immediately. Start digging you well before you're thirsty. That's why I led the book with this, because you should start doing this today. Let's say you do this on Instagram or on Facebook. Let's say Instagram, you figure who on Instagram already has my dream following. Who are the influencers who already have a huge list of people, a ton of followers of my dream customers? And then start messaging them. I read you guys a couple days ago in here talking about dreaming 100 Rachel Hall, when she launched her book that became the number two bestselling book of the year last year, only losing to Michelle Obama, come on now, first thing she did is she went to Instagram and found everyone who had her dream customers who had over 200,000 followers. She personally DMed every single one of them. She started working her way in, getting to know them, messaging them, sending them free copies of her product and getting to know them. Same thing with Tom Bilyeu from Quest. When they launched Quest Nutrition, same thing. He went to Instagram and found who was all the influencers who got my dream customers? I'm going to start working my way in and send them free samples, send them product and started working their way in. So that's step number one, is working your way and getting to know these people. When your product's launched, they should already know who you are. They should be friends. In fact, I think I tell a story in here of Tim Ferriss. When he launched The 4-Hour Workweek, he did the same thing. He said, "I'm writing a book. I need to start digging my well today." So he said, "Who's my dream 100? Who are the people that someday I'd love for them to promote my book?" He built a huge list of bloggers and podcasters and things like that. He started getting to know them, became friends with them, messaged them a year before he launched his book. He started digging his well before he was thirsty with these people, getting to know them as he's writing a book. Eventually people are like, "What do you do for a living?" He's like, "Oh, I'm an author. I'm writing a book." They're, "What's the book?" "It's not done yet. I'll tell you when it's done." But people are like, "This guy's really cool. He's just really nice." And then eventually Tim's like, "Hey, my book's done. Can I send you a free copy?" They're like, "Heck yeah," so he sent all these people free copies of The 4-Hour Workweek. And then he's like, "Hey, launch day is this day. If you like it, I'd love for you to write a blog post on launch day and tell the world." And on launch day, he had like, I don't know, a thousand bloggers on day one blogging about The 4-Hour Workweek. That built Tim Ferriss. And so this whole concept is how it works. You figure out your dream 100 is and step number one, you start digging your well before you're thirsty. I'm not going to spend too much time, but we talked about all the different ways to do that here inside the book and the ways you do it the right way and then the wrong way. Okay, let's see. Let me I make sure I'm doing this in the right order. Step number one is dig your well before you're thirsty. Step number two is you work your way in. It's interesting. Right now, while we're on quarantine, my kids and I and my wife are doing the Marvel marathon. We started with Captain America and then Captain Marvel. We're doing it chronologically so it's not when the movies released, but when they chronologically fit into time. So Captain America's number one, Captain Marvel. Last night, it was Iron Man. Tomorrow, or tonight, it's going to be Incredible Hulk. We're doing the whole marathon. As I was watching, I was thinking about... I remember when Infinity Wars came out and Endgame came out. How did they launch those movies? Thinking about this, what they did is that the movie theaters, Disney, they have relationships with the people that have their dream customers, so The Today Show, The Tonight Show, Good Morning America, Late Night, all the different talk shows. About a week before any of these movies go live, what happens? Again, let's just say that we're Hollywood right now. Hollywood builds out their dream... So here's your dream 100. I got to figure out how to work my way in and buy my way into these people. This is what Hollywood does. It's the same thing. It's like okay, here's the morning shows, the talk shows, late night talk shows. If we're going to promote this movie, we need to start working our way in today. And so what do they do? They go and all of a sudden, you see the guy who plays Thor, Chris Hemsworth, is on every single show talking about the movie. And then you got Iron Man going everywhere, and you got all the famous people going on all these shows, talking about the movie like, "This weekend, the movie's coming out. It's coming out. It's coming out." They're working their way in to all these channels, letting them know that this thing's about to go live. And then boom, movie goes live on the weekend. They make a billion dollars. That's how they launch movies. The same thing's true in our world, For the last two years that I've been writing this book, I built my dream 100. I got to know them. I built relationships. I sent free copies of the book. Now, I'm doing podcast interviews, Facebook Lives and all sorts of stuff, talking about my book, getting it out there to the world. Same thing's true for your product. It's the same thing. You start working your way in. We call it working your way in or earning your traffic because it's free. You're not paying for it. You're paying for it with your time, your relationships. But it's the best kind of traffic because it's... First off, doesn't cost you any money. Number two, usually it's coming with a personal recommendation. It's the best type of traffic you can get. So work our way in. The first goal is to work our way into everyone's side of the dream 100. In fact on page 64, you see, well, here's a picture of it there. Personally, I try to figure out how to work my way in. I go through all my podcast lists. How do I get on everyone's podcasts? I want to hit the podcast circuits. Here's all my YouTubers. How do I get on the YouTube circuit? Here's all the people that Facebook live, people who have email list. I'm trying to work these circuits and get into every single person's thing. That's how I worked my way in. In fact, when I launched the Experts Secrets book, I show a picture here, but I spent... Some of you guys saw that video. I did a whole YouTube video about this. I spent 10 years building a relationship with Tony Robbins, my dream 100. When the Experts Secrets book came out, I said, "Hey, can you interview me about my book on your fan page?" He's like, "Okay," and he interviewed me. This interview got 3.1 million views, of Tony interviewing me when the last book came out. I was working my way in. Didn't cost me any money, but I got in there and got this free promotion. The first thing is working your way in. The second way is you buy your way in. Now in a perfect world, everyone in your dream 100 would just promote you for free. But the reality is for 10 years, for example, Tony Robbins didn't promote me for a decade that I was working my way in, working my way in, working my way in. But what's cool is during that time, while I'm working my way in and hoping to get him to promote me for free, I'm still able to go and buy my way in. I was able to go to Tony Robbins, he's my dream 100, and I targeted his fans, his followers on Facebook. I bought ads to his followers. I know his followers are my dream customers, so I bought ads to those people. I knew that Grant Cardone's followers are my dream customers, so I bought ads to those people and I did the same thing. There's two steps to the process. You figure out who your dream 100 is. Number one is you're going and you are working your way and trying to get free exposure to their following, to their fans, to their audiences. And then two, while you're trying to work your way in and get free exposure, you can also buy your way in. All the advertising platforms nowadays like Facebook and Instagram and YouTube allow you to buy ads directly targeting certain people. If I have your dream customers, you can buy ads and say, "Everyone who follows Russell Brunson, I want them to see my ad." You can do that really easily. If you're selling a health product, you can say, "Everyone who follows Dr. Oz, show them my product." While you're waiting for Dr. Oz to put you on the show someday in the future, while you're building a relationship and trying to get on his show to get all this exposure, at the same time you can be buying your way in today. You don't have to wait for him to say yes. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, the channels have already said yes to you. So I'm working my way in and I'm buying my way in. People always ask me, "What's better? Is it better to work your way in or to buy your way in? The reality is you want both. Here's a little graph here, if you can see. See? If I'm buying my way in, boom. I can get a big spike immediately. I start getting traffic like yesterday. I can get traffic super, super fast. I work my way in, it takes longer. But over the long term, you can get way more traffic from that. The reality is you want both. You want the immediate traffic in sales coming in from buying your way in, and you want the long-term consistent free traffic. If you're doing both at the same time, that's the best way to do it. ClickFunnels has built up of a lot of traffic from both things, free traffic that we're working our way in, as well as paid traffic that we're buying our way in. That's kind of where we're starting. I could spend like six years going on this, but you got to get the book, you guys. You have to get it. You can't say it about your own book, that's annoying, but I worked really hard on it so I can say that. I think it's really good. I'm really proud of it. It's funny, because when you're you finish writing it, you're so proud of it, and then there's this phase where you have to send it to people to read. Man, it is a scary, scary phase. I remember sending it to a whole bunch of my friends and just be like, "Here's my new book," and then just waiting and hoping and hoping. It's funny because at first, you don't hear back because books take a long time to read. You're just like, "Oh my gosh, they must hate it. I'm really, really scared." And then a couple weeks ago, I was at Tony Robbins' 60th birthday party, which was insane. I'm sitting there and I saw Garrett White across the room. He came over, gave me a hug. And then he's like, in the way Garrett says it, "Brother." He's like, "I read the new book." I'm like, "Oh yeah. What'd you think?" freaking out like, "I hope he..." And Garrett's been one of the biggest fans of DotCom and Expert Secrets that we have, one of our biggest promoters of the book. He's like, "This one's better than the other two." I was like, "What? Are you serious?" I'm like, "Oh, cool. Thanks." Inside, I'm freaking out because I've been so panicked, so nervous, so afraid that when people got this, what if they don't like it? It's the insecurities of the artist. You always will have it as you start putting your stuff out there. But it made me really happy that... Anyway, so far everyone who's had a chance to read it has loved it. So many of you guys have had a chance to listen the audiobook and sent amazing feedback. I'm grateful for it. Anyway, yes. I'm excited. If you guys don't have a copy of the book yet, now is the time. All you got to do is go to trafficsecrets.com. Again, we're in pre-order right now. These don't ship until May 5th, assuming that Amazon opens back up soon. Anyway, that's a story for the another day. May 5th, these start shipping. We'll be shipping from our warehouse, so you don't have worry about that. But if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you can pre-order. There's an order of form bump for an audiobook. If you want to start listening to it today, you can start listening today. I spent three days in the studio reading it. It's seven-hour audio, I think, of the whole book. You can start listening to today and have it ready by tomorrow. It's going to be awesome. Anyway, I'm excited for you guys. Hopefully, you enjoy the book when it comes out. I've got to jump. I've been working my way and I've got interviews starting in four minutes with a whole bunch of other people who are going to be talking about this book. I'm going to go jump off and jump on the calls with them, you guys. Yes, I practice what I preach. But now's time to get your book. Go to trafficsecrets.com. I hope you guys enjoy it. I hope you guys love it. And again, while you're ready for the book to show up, there's the audiobook you can upsell. There's five videos you get. One of them is me talking about Traffic Secrets at Funnel Hacking LIVE. There's one from Prince EA, who's over 3 billion views on YouTube. There's Peng Joon's video. There's a whole bunch of amazing Traffic videos you get instantly when you get the book, so go take advantage of that as well at trafficsecrets.com. Someone said, "Where at?" Anyway, I'm jumping off. I got a call in three minutes. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out with me today. We'll talk back tomorrow. Tomorrow, we're going to be going into the next secret, which is traffic that you own. This is the most important type of traffic, so we'll cover this tomorrow. Again, there's three types of traffic, traffic you control, traffic that you earn and traffic that you own. Tomorrow, we'll talk about traffic you own, the most important, most vital, most fun type of traffic. Thanks, you guys. Trafficsecrets.com. Appreciate you all. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Enjoy another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast.

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Hey, hey. What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to, what do we call this, Quarantine Traffic TV? We should be talking about viral traffic, how viruses grow. We actually are going to be talking about viral growth, viral traffic towards the end of the Traffic Secrets book. When we get to growth hacking, there's bunch of really cool things. But, we will save that for another day.

Just checking in on everybody. Hope you guys are doing great. I know it's crazy times, a lot of things are happening, but a lot of good things are happening in the world right now, too, and just grateful for just so many amazing people who are publishing.

I went live yesterday to our 2 Comma Club collective group and I told everyone, I said, "Look, now is the time for you to all be publishing. Your people need you. They need faith. They need hope in a better world. They need things like that to happen. It's time to start publishing." We're going to get deeper into that in the next couple episodes here as we're talking about Traffic Secrets, about publishing and finding your voice and things like that, but now is the time. Your people need you more than ever. It's important for you to go out there and start sharing. Even though it's scary and even though all the stuff, it's time to be a light for the people that follow you.

Today, we are getting back into Traffic Secrets. Hope you guys have been enjoying this so far. Have you guys enjoyed these, going live every day? It's been fun for me to kind of start and of kick off the day. Hopefully, it's been good for you guys as well to give you something to think about and talk about and brainstorm on throughout the day.

One of mantras I've had in my business for the last, man, probably 10 years or so is this concept of how do you give yourself a raise every single day? Every day, I wake up in the morning and I'm like, "How do I give myself a raise today?" Because think about in the real world, the only way to give yourself a raise is to go back to school. If you're a doctor and you want to give yourself a raise, you got to go back to like four more years of medical school or postgraduate school or things like that.

As an entrepreneur, it's kind of fun because I can come into my office and be like: "Okay, if I can increase the conversions on my page; that gives me a raise today. If I can get more traffic coming into my funnels, that's giving me a raise today." There's all these little things we can do to give ourselves a raise every single day. Hopefully, this hanging out with you guys, talking about Traffic and going through the Traffic Secrets book, is giving you guys ideas as you come every day to listen for tip, a hit, an idea, something that you can grab that'll be the thing that'll give you a raise today. The more you guys do that, the better so it's kind of fun.

Anyway, we're in the middle of the Traffic Secrets book launch. I think we're halfway through the official launch. It's been going amazingly well. The funnel's converting well, the books are selling like crazy. I want to thank you guys all for participating, even though times are crazy.

I think this is the time for all of us to start sharpening our saws. You look at the best companies in the world were all built during these times of economic uncertainty. And so your business, your following, your brand, it is the time to start building it now. All right, so here we go. You guys want to jump into Traffic Secrets again?

I've been going through chapter by chapter every day. Some days we've covered half a chapter, but I'm going to be moving into the next stuff. If you don't have your copy yet, we're in pre-order right now. You can go get trafficsecrets.com to go get your copy. They're there. It's free plus shipping, so it costs you I think 9.95 US, 19.95 international. We start shipping these on May 5th, so you may have to wait a little bit to get them but the audiobook, which I recorded, it's seven hours of me reading this entire book, is available right now. Every single day, we're going live and I'm going through the book so while you waiting for the book to come, also I'm sharing with you guys so you can start getting the wheels in your head spinning and get the ideas coming forth.

Anyway, if you haven't got it yet, go to trafficsecrets.com and get book. I'd recommend getting the audiobook because you can listen the whole thing tonight. It took me three days to record, but it's seven hours of audio. You can listen to it all day today and by to this time tomorrow have the book done and in your head and understanding it all perfectly well.

All right. And then on top of that, there's like five, I think it's five bonus videos you get when you get Traffic Secrets book that each of those by themselves, we could sell for a couple hundred bucks. You get them all for free when you go to trafficsecrets.com and get your free book. I think I said free like 40 times so far. It's time.

Anyway. All right. Everyone's asking, "What's Unlock Secrets?" Oh, well there's DotCom Secrets, which is book number one in the series; Expert Secrets, book number two; Traffic Secrets, book number three. Unlock Secrets is a workbook that goes with all of them to help mush them all together and mushify them. But right now, we're talking about the Traffic Secrets book. Okay, so should we dive in?

Let's recap what we talked about so far. In the introduction, we talked about the fact there's a storm coming and then it's crazy that we're in the middle of literally... Well, in Boise we're actually having a storm outside, but we're in the middle of this economic storm. It's scary times right now.

It's kind of, I don't know, kind of creepy. I wrote this probably 18 months ago, but the introduction starts with "There's a storm coming," and it's talking about... The reason I wrote this book is because there's a storm coming. Businesses are going to be struggling. The lifeblood of every business is what? Traffic. The lifeblood is customers. Right now, in these crazy economic times, the life preserver you have for your business is literally traffic. It's the customers coming around you and it's building up customers that'll be there for a lifetime. Anyway, so the introduction talked about the fact that there's a storm coming, how to prepare for it.

Then section number one was all about your dream customer, who is the person you want to serve, and then really understanding them at a deeper level. Are they someone who's moving towards pleasure and moving away from pain? Are they a searcher? Are they a scroller? Where are we finding these people at? How are we interrupting them? That was all in section one, which is one of my favorite chapters. Hope you guys enjoyed that one.

Section two, or secret number two then, was now that we know who our dream customers are, secret two is where are they actually hiding? I need to find those people. They got to be hiding somewhere. We talked about congregations and how to identify them.

And then in the third video we did like this, we talked about the dream 100. Who's already congregating those people? Where are they at? I had you guys do an exercise, so hopefully you did. It's on page 41 in the book when you get the book. Basically, it was going through each platform. So on Facebook, who are the people that have already congregated your dream customers? Who are the people who already have big Facebook following and writing their names down. Then who are the people who already have big YouTube channels and writing those names down. Who are the people who have big podcasts of your dream customers? Instagram channels, bloggers, big email lists, who are the people that have already congregated the customers you want to have and you want to serve? You got to start listing those people out. That's the first step here in the dream 100. We're going to come back to that today, so I want to make sure you guys have done that and prepared there.

And then yesterday, we talked about my favorite concepts, which is hook, story, offer. Whoop. We talked a lot about that. If you missed that one, all these are being posted on Facebook. They're on Facebook long term, so you can go and watch those on Facebook. We may or may not be putting out a Traffic Secrets podcast of these episodes as well because some people have been asking for the replay. That may be coming to you.

But today, we're going into secret number four. Secret number four, you guys ready for this? Secret number four is called work your way in and buy your way in. If you read the original DotCom Secrets book, I talk about there's three types of traffic. How many of you guys remember this? There's three types of traffic. This is internet marketing school 101. There is traffic that you control, there's traffic that you earn and there's traffic that you own. There's three types of traffic. Today, we're going to be talking about two of those three types.

All right, so working your way in and buying your way. In fact, let me see what's the best way I could share with this. Oh, yeah. It's interesting. When we were launching ClickFunnels five and a half years ago, as you guys know, I'm the non-technical co-founder, which means I got no skills. I can't code, I can't write software, so everyone's writing software for me because I can't do it. Todd and Dylan were creating software.

And so it was like what was my job in this whole thing? My job was to figure out, when the doors open on day one, how am I going to make sure that there's traffic coming into our funnel so that people are lined up waiting to create a trial? While they're up all night coding, drinking Red Bulls and doing the hackathon, stuff like that, I was hanging out with them, figuring out, "Okay, I got to figure out dream 100. Who are the people who's got our dream customers?" And so I built my whole dream 100 list, just like I just showed you guys right now and how we did this… actually I did this a couple days ago. I built out the dream 100, and then I started contacting them and calling them and messaging them and sending them stuff in the mail and getting to know them and all sorts of things.

After I figure out my dream 100, there's two things I'm trying to do. One, I'm trying to work my way in and number two, I'm trying to buy my way in. Working your way in is, how do I get those people who already have my dream customers to promote me? All you guys have been watching this Traffic Secrets book launch. I have a lot of people who said, "My entire Facebook and Instagram and YouTube feeds are all filled with people talking about Traffic Secrets." Literally, it's my dream 100. It's people I've been building relationships with for years who I say, "I got a new book coming out. Do you want to talk about it?" And they have.

I worked my way into those relationships. Those people are promoting it. I'm not paying them. They are affiliates, so they will get paid commissions if they sell a book, but I didn't buy ads from them. I said, "Hey, do you want to promote this?" They said yes. right. I worked my way in.

If you look at how do you work your way into your dream 100, you could go through the book here on page number 57. I start walking you through the process. Step number one is called dig your well before you're thirsty.

There's a book that Harvey Mackay wrote called Dig Your Well Before You're Thirsty. I remember reading that book and just being like, "Okay, that's the thing." A lot of times, people are like, "Well, when my product's done, then I'll go start working on my dream 100. I'll start building relationships. When I'm ready to launch, then I'll go do that." It's like no, no, no. You need to do that today because when your product's done, if you come to someone and the first time you meet like, "Hey, how's it going? My name's Russell. Do you want to promote my book?" they're going to be like, "Dude, I don't know who you are. All you're doing is asking me for favors and asking me for things."

Your job is to start building a relationship today, immediately. Start digging you well before you're thirsty. That's why I led the book with this, because you should start doing this today.

Let's say you do this on Instagram or on Facebook. Let's say Instagram, you figure who on Instagram already has my dream following. Who are the influencers who already have a huge list of people, a ton of followers of my dream customers? And then start messaging them.

I read you guys a couple days ago in here talking about dreaming 100 Rachel Hall, when she launched her book that became the number two bestselling book of the year last year, only losing to Michelle Obama, come on now, first thing she did is she went to Instagram and found everyone who had her dream customers who had over 200,000 followers. She personally DMed every single one of them. She started working her way in, getting to know them, messaging them, sending them free copies of her product and getting to know them.

Same thing with Tom Bilyeu from Quest. When they launched Quest Nutrition, same thing. He went to Instagram and found who was all the influencers who got my dream customers? I'm going to start working my way in and send them free samples, send them product and started working their way in. So that's step number one, is working your way and getting to know these people.

When your product's launched, they should already know who you are. They should be friends. In fact, I think I tell a story in here of Tim Ferriss.

When he launched The 4-Hour Workweek, he did the same thing. He said, "I'm writing a book. I need to start digging my well today." So he said, "Who's my dream 100? Who are the people that someday I'd love for them to promote my book?" He built a huge list of bloggers and podcasters and things like that. He started getting to know them, became friends with them, messaged them a year before he launched his book. He started digging his well before he was thirsty with these people, getting to know them as he's writing a book.

Eventually people are like, "What do you do for a living?" He's like, "Oh, I'm an author. I'm writing a book." They're, "What's the book?" "It's not done yet. I'll tell you when it's done." But people are like, "This guy's really cool. He's just really nice."

And then eventually Tim's like, "Hey, my book's done. Can I send you a free copy?" They're like, "Heck yeah," so he sent all these people free copies of The 4-Hour Workweek. And then he's like, "Hey, launch day is this day. If you like it, I'd love for you to write a blog post on launch day and tell the world." And on launch day, he had like, I don't know, a thousand bloggers on day one blogging about The 4-Hour Workweek. That built Tim Ferriss.

And so this whole concept is how it works. You figure out your dream 100 is and step number one, you start digging your well before you're thirsty. I'm not going to spend too much time, but we talked about all the different ways to do that here inside the book and the ways you do it the right way and then the wrong way.

Okay, let's see. Let me I make sure I'm doing this in the right order. Step number one is dig your well before you're thirsty. Step number two is you work your way in.

It's interesting. Right now, while we're on quarantine, my kids and I and my wife are doing the Marvel marathon. We started with Captain America and then Captain Marvel. We're doing it chronologically so it's not when the movies released, but when they chronologically fit into time. So Captain America's number one, Captain Marvel. Last night, it was Iron Man. Tomorrow, or tonight, it's going to be Incredible Hulk. We're doing the whole marathon.

As I was watching, I was thinking about... I remember when Infinity Wars came out and Endgame came out. How did they launch those movies? Thinking about this, what they did is that the movie theaters, Disney, they have relationships with the people that have their dream customers, so The Today Show, The Tonight Show, Good Morning America, Late Night, all the different talk shows. About a week before any of these movies go live, what happens?

Again, let's just say that we're Hollywood right now. Hollywood builds out their dream... So here's your dream 100. I got to figure out how to work my way in and buy my way into these people. This is what Hollywood does. It's the same thing. It's like okay, here's the morning shows, the talk shows, late night talk shows. If we're going to promote this movie, we need to start working our way in today.

And so what do they do? They go and all of a sudden, you see the guy who plays Thor, Chris Hemsworth, is on every single show talking about the movie. And then you got Iron Man going everywhere, and you got all the famous people going on all these shows, talking about the movie like, "This weekend, the movie's coming out. It's coming out. It's coming out." They're working their way in to all these channels, letting them know that this thing's about to go live. And then boom, movie goes live on the weekend. They make a billion dollars. That's how they launch movies.

The same thing's true in our world, For the last two years that I've been writing this book, I built my dream 100. I got to know them. I built relationships. I sent free copies of the book. Now, I'm doing podcast interviews, Facebook Lives and all sorts of stuff, talking about my book, getting it out there to the world.

Same thing's true for your product. It's the same thing. You start working your way in. We call it working your way in or earning your traffic because it's free. You're not paying for it. You're paying for it with your time, your relationships.

But it's the best kind of traffic because it's... First off, doesn't cost you any money. Number two, usually it's coming with a personal recommendation. It's the best type of traffic you can get. So work our way in. The first goal is to work our way into everyone's side of the dream 100.

In fact on page 64, you see, well, here's a picture of it there. Personally, I try to figure out how to work my way in. I go through all my podcast lists. How do I get on everyone's podcasts? I want to hit the podcast circuits. Here's all my YouTubers. How do I get on the YouTube circuit? Here's all the people that Facebook live, people who have email list. I'm trying to work these circuits and get into every single person's thing. That's how I worked my way in.

In fact, when I launched the Experts Secrets book, I show a picture here, but I spent... Some of you guys saw that video. I did a whole YouTube video about this. I spent 10 years building a relationship with Tony Robbins, my dream 100. When the Experts Secrets book came out, I said, "Hey, can you interview me about my book on your fan page?" He's like, "Okay," and he interviewed me. This interview got 3.1 million views, of Tony interviewing me when the last book came out. I was working my way in. Didn't cost me any money, but I got in there and got this free promotion.

The first thing is working your way in. The second way is you buy your way in. Now in a perfect world, everyone in your dream 100 would just promote you for free. But the reality is for 10 years, for example, Tony Robbins didn't promote me for a decade that I was working my way in, working my way in, working my way in.

But what's cool is during that time, while I'm working my way in and hoping to get him to promote me for free, I'm still able to go and buy my way in. I was able to go to Tony Robbins, he's my dream 100, and I targeted his fans, his followers on Facebook. I bought ads to his followers. I know his followers are my dream customers, so I bought ads to those people. I knew that Grant Cardone's followers are my dream customers, so I bought ads to those people and I did the same thing.

There's two steps to the process. You figure out who your dream 100 is. Number one is you're going and you are working your way and trying to get free exposure to their following, to their fans, to their audiences. And then two, while you're trying to work your way in and get free exposure, you can also buy your way in. All the advertising platforms nowadays like Facebook and Instagram and YouTube allow you to buy ads directly targeting certain people.

If I have your dream customers, you can buy ads and say, "Everyone who follows Russell Brunson, I want them to see my ad." You can do that really easily. If you're selling a health product, you can say, "Everyone who follows Dr. Oz, show them my product." While you're waiting for Dr. Oz to put you on the show someday in the future, while you're building a relationship and trying to get on his show to get all this exposure, at the same time you can be buying your way in today. You don't have to wait for him to say yes. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, the channels have already said yes to you. So I'm working my way in and I'm buying my way in.

People always ask me, "What's better? Is it better to work your way in or to buy your way in? The reality is you want both. Here's a little graph here, if you can see. See? If I'm buying my way in, boom. I can get a big spike immediately. I start getting traffic like yesterday. I can get traffic super, super fast. I work my way in, it takes longer. But over the long term, you can get way more traffic from that.

The reality is you want both. You want the immediate traffic in sales coming in from buying your way in, and you want the long-term consistent free traffic. If you're doing both at the same time, that's the best way to do it. ClickFunnels has built up of a lot of traffic from both things, free traffic that we're working our way in, as well as paid traffic that we're buying our way in.

That's kind of where we're starting. I could spend like six years going on this, but you got to get the book, you guys. You have to get it. You can't say it about your own book, that's annoying, but I worked really hard on it so I can say that. I think it's really good. I'm really proud of it. It's funny, because when you're you finish writing it, you're so proud of it, and then there's this phase where you have to send it to people to read. Man, it is a scary, scary phase.

I remember sending it to a whole bunch of my friends and just be like, "Here's my new book," and then just waiting and hoping and hoping. It's funny because at first, you don't hear back because books take a long time to read. You're just like, "Oh my gosh, they must hate it. I'm really, really scared."

And then a couple weeks ago, I was at Tony Robbins' 60th birthday party, which was insane. I'm sitting there and I saw Garrett White across the room. He came over, gave me a hug. And then he's like, in the way Garrett says it, "Brother." He's like, "I read the new book." I'm like, "Oh yeah. What'd you think?" freaking out like, "I hope he..." And Garrett's been one of the biggest fans of DotCom and Expert Secrets that we have, one of our biggest promoters of the book.

He's like, "This one's better than the other two." I was like, "What? Are you serious?" I'm like, "Oh, cool. Thanks." Inside, I'm freaking out because I've been so panicked, so nervous, so afraid that when people got this, what if they don't like it? It's the insecurities of the artist. You always will have it as you start putting your stuff out there.

But it made me really happy that... Anyway, so far everyone who's had a chance to read it has loved it. So many of you guys have had a chance to listen the audiobook and sent amazing feedback. I'm grateful for it. Anyway, yes. I'm excited.

If you guys don't have a copy of the book yet, now is the time. All you got to do is go to trafficsecrets.com. Again, we're in pre-order right now. These don't ship until May 5th, assuming that Amazon opens back up soon. Anyway, that's a story for the another day. May 5th, these start shipping. We'll be shipping from our warehouse, so you don't have worry about that.

But if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you can pre-order. There's an order of form bump for an audiobook. If you want to start listening to it today, you can start listening today. I spent three days in the studio reading it. It's seven-hour audio, I think, of the whole book. You can start listening to today and have it ready by tomorrow. It's going to be awesome.

Anyway, I'm excited for you guys. Hopefully, you enjoy the book when it comes out. I've got to jump. I've been working my way and I've got interviews starting in four minutes with a whole bunch of other people who are going to be talking about this book. I'm going to go jump off and jump on the calls with them, you guys. Yes, I practice what I preach.

But now's time to get your book. Go to trafficsecrets.com. I hope you guys enjoy it. I hope you guys love it. And again, while you're ready for the book to show up, there's the audiobook you can upsell.

There's five videos you get. One of them is me talking about Traffic Secrets at Funnel Hacking LIVE. There's one from Prince EA, who's over 3 billion views on YouTube. There's Peng Joon's video. There's a whole bunch of amazing Traffic videos you get instantly when you get the book, so go take advantage of that as well at trafficsecrets.com. Someone said, "Where at?"

Anyway, I'm jumping off. I got a call in three minutes. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out with me today. We'll talk back tomorrow.

Tomorrow, we're going to be going into the next secret, which is traffic that you own. This is the most important type of traffic, so we'll cover this tomorrow. Again, there's three types of traffic, traffic you control, traffic that you earn and traffic that you own. Tomorrow, we'll talk about traffic you own, the most important, most vital, most fun type of traffic.

Thanks, you guys. Trafficsecrets.com. Appreciate you all. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 1417 no Hook, Story, Offer (and the Attractive Character) (TS) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/hook-story-offer-and-the-attractive-character Here is another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to know how to grab (and KEEP) your customers' attention, and draw them into your world? On this episode, Russell shares: The 3-part method to crafting a high-converting sales funnel. How Natalie Hodson used this method to sell 120K copies of her book! How to use this SAME method to attract and convert your dream customers, no matter where they're coming from! Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to wherever you're hanging out with me at. We've got Instagram. We've got Facebook going right now. And I am home during week number two of our quarantine. And I'm guessing a lot of you guys are as well. And so while we're sitting here, trying to figure out what to do, I figured this is a good time to start talking more about traffic. So hopefully, you guys are all excited and pumped for that. Anyway, excited to be here with you guys today. And it's interesting, as we were talking this morning as a team, and we started talking about all the fears. There are obviously a lot of fears, right now, happening in society and the economy and things like that. It's like, "Well, how do we protect ourselves? How do we create a life preserver around our company? What does it look like? What does that need to be?" And honestly, the biggest, most important life preserver you can create for your company is getting customers. That is your life preserver, especially in times right now, where so many companies aren't able to get customers. That's why the economy's failing, why businesses are failing is because they can't get customers. And so I figured, from now until the next, I don't know, two or three weeks, two or three months, I'm going to be talking about this like crazy with you guys. How do we get customers? How do we get customers? Because it's the thing that we all need right now. It's the safety net we need to protect ourselves and to protect our businesses. And so that's kind of the game plan. So with that said, you guys excited if we go jump back into Traffic Secrets book some more? First off, thank you so much for all you guys. Obviously, we launched this Traffic Secrets book in the middle of chaos, and the books are selling like crazy. And so I want to thank you guys so much for doing that. That's exciting. Tom Greece said, "We are pregnant, and the next generation funnel hackers are on the way." Congratulations, Tom. We got funnel hacking babies coming. I love it. Oh, I heard the prediction is that after this whole everyone's quarantine come down, there's going to be a whole bunch of babies popping up nine months later. And the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed with that. So good thing they're preparing now, I guess. Anyway, so I want to jump into this next section here of Traffic Secrets with you guys. So if you have been, obviously, the books don't ship until May 5th, but tons of you guys have been, told me you got the audio book, which is awesome. If you've been listening to all of the things, today we're going to be jumping into secret number three, which is by far the most, probably one of, if not the most, important secrets in the entire book, which I'm excited for you guys to get into. So things we've covered so far. Secret number one, we talked about who is your dream customer and really getting a deep understanding of them. Are they moving towards pleasure or away from pain? Are they a searcher? Are they a scroller? Getting deep into their mindsets so we understand them because if we understand who they are, then we can understand secret number two, which is where are they actually hiding. Where are they congregating online? Where is the existing streams of traffic happening? So we can go, we can find those people, and we can tap into them. So that's number two. So now secret number three is what we call, are you guys ready for this? Hook, story, offer, and the attractive character. Now, man, if you guys have been following me at all for the last two years, not quite, a year and a half or so, about a year and half ago-ish is when I first came up with the new framework, hook, story, offer. And I started freaking out. I was like, "Ah." And I remember it was one of those things, where I was doing a training for my two comma club X members, and it just kind of came out. I was teaching something, and I was like, "if you notice, every single page in the funnel has hook, story, offer. The ad does. The emails do. The landing page, the sales page, upsells, every single page has hook, story, offer. And as we got deeper and deeper into it, I realized that if anything in the funnel isn't working, it's always because of either the hook, the story, or the offer. And then I started freaking out. I remember the next morning I came in, it was like six in the morning. I was lifting weights with James P. Friel and Dave Woodward. And I was like, "You guys, guess what? I just figured out this thing." And they're like, "What is it?" I'm like, "It's called hook, story, offer." And they're like, "That sounds weird." And we spent the entire hour, we didn't lift a single weight that day. We just talked about hook, story, offer. And they were freaking out. I was freaking out. I'm looking at every funnel we've ever done. Like, what was the thing that made them work and not work? And it was crazy that every single time it always had to come down, and it was always either the hook, the story, or the offer. And so I want to give you guys, as you guys know, when I wrote the new Traffic Seekers book, at the same time I went and I rewrote the DotCom secrets book. I rewrote the Expert Secrets book. And then I wrote this book as well. I wrote this one first, and then rewrote those other two. And because hook, story, offer, it's crazy because it's such a fundamental important concept. But because I didn't come up with that framework until after these first two books were published, these two books were missing it. And so part of the big rewrites in these include the hook, story, offer. So in DotCom Secrets book, I go deep in hook, story, offer. Expert Secrets, I go back into it as well. In DotCom Secrets, we talk a lot about funnel audibles and testing your funnel and funnels not working. And there's a whole new section in the back here about that. And what's cool about it is it's all based back on hook, story, offer. Anyway, and so in the new book, Traffic Secrets, I talk a lot about this as well because it's such a big part. In fact, traffic, one of the most important things I've tracked is being good at throwing out hooks. A hook is like, how do you grab someone's attention? Most of our customers all day are on their phone scrolling, and they're scrolling, and they're scrolling. A hook is the thing that gets them to stop scrolling. So the hook could be the picture of you. Notice I didn't just do this on a white wall. I'm like, "Hey, I need a picture back here." And I totally forgot. I usually have something different back here, but there's the default Apple TV backdrop. I've got my books here. And then, notice I'm doing things like this. I'm trying to hook your attention. So if you're scrolling through Facebook or Instagram, all of a sudden you see this. Like, "Why is Russell so excited? Ah." And that hooks you. So hook could be the headline. It could be the image. It could be the picture. It could be a backer. It's everything you have in your tool chest to grab someone's attention. There's hook. Okay. The second part of hook, story, offer is story, which in the Expert Secrets book is the deep dive on story, storytelling, story process, how it works, how it doesn't work. And so I talk about story a lot here, but Traffic Secrets is primarily finding the people and getting hooks to grab their attention. Expert secrets is like how you tell the story to build a perceived value of what you're going to sell. And then actually, in Dotcom secrets, we go deeper into offer. So you got hook, story, offer. They kind of weave backwards in the books, but I touch upon them deep in each book. But so, Traffic Seekers book, in section number three, or secret number three, is all about hook, story, offer. So I'm going to flip open to there really quick. So you see the picture here. If you guys can see, if you're watching, you can see there's a picture of all these little hooks. Then there's the story. And there's the offer. And this is the core framework of funnels. When you really start understanding it. All right. Are you guys cool, if I read you part of the book? Ah. Okay, I'm going to read you a story. And this is, anyway, this is a fun one. "So it was 9:27 PM. Sorry. It's 9:27 PM. And the last of Jessica's kids had just fallen asleep. It had been a long day that started out way before the sun came up and was finally ending. While Jessica was exhausted, it was her time now. And she had a few precious moments to herself without kids pulling her in a million directions." Does that sound like any of you guys? If you've got kids, it sounds like me, especially during this quarantine. "Soon she would have to start her nighttime routine of cleaning up the house, getting herself ready for bed, taking off her makeup, and finally falling asleep for a few hours before she had to wake up and start it all over again. As she fell on the couch, she reached in to her pocket and slowly pulled out her phone. What had been happening in everyone else's lives today, she wondered. She opened Facebook and swiped through the lives of her friends and family, hoping to find some comfort, knowing that she wasn't the only one who had a busy day. Soon she started to get bored. But when she was about to close the app, she saw an image fly past her screen. She almost missed it, but she slowly moved her finger back up the phone, bringing the picture into the middle of the screen. Yep. She thought she was right. It was a picture of a woman about her age in workout clothes with gray shorts on. The thing that caught her eye wasn't the shorts, though, it was the dark gray spot in the middle of her shorts. A little confused. She looked around above the image and read the words, 'Let me tell you about the time that I peed my pants during a workout. I was filming for dollar workout club. I'd never been so embarrassed before.' Jessica was right. It was a picture of a grown woman who had peed her pants. She laughed for a second, but then her laughter turned into uneasiness as she realized that she knew exactly how this woman had felt. She had experienced the same thing earlier that year, when her kids had wanted her to jump on the trampoline with them. She wanted to be a good mom, but after a few jumps, she had to get off because she had peed her pants. She quickly came up with a reason why she couldn't jump anymore. And after apologizing to her kids, she had run to her house to get changed. She knew the story she told her kids wasn't true, which added to her mom guilt even more. This also made her think about other activities she knew she would love to do but were off limits for the same reason. After a few seconds of looking at the image, Jessica decided she wanted to see why in the world this woman would post a picture of herself on Facebook telling others that she had peed her pants. She clicked on the image and was immediately taken to the page of the video with the same woman in the picture. Jessica clicked on the video and started listening to the story. The woman's name was Natalie Hodson, and she was a fitness blogger and a mom of two amazing kids, who were both 10 pound babies. Natalie told her embarrassing story, when she accidentally peed her pants during a workout she was filming for her blogs. She then talked about a doctor that she had met, who specialized in helping women with this problem. She shared how the doctors were able to help her. And after she had success, she wanted to share it with other women. Natalie mentioned she had worked with the doctor to create an online program that anyone could do from home with simple exercises to strengthen their abs, core, and pelvic floor. Together, Natalie and the doctors, made an ebook that also came with bonuses, like diet, nutrition trips, exercises, and movements, and special training programs. They wanted to make this offer for all the moms who had struggled with accidental leaks after having babies but didn't have the ability to meet with the doctor in person. Instead, you could get the same advice without ever leaving the comfort of your home, and you can get the ebook with all these bonuses mentioned for just $47. Excited, Jessica jumped off the couch and ran across the room to find her credit card. After typing in her credit card numbers, within minutes, she had access to the ebook that would solve her problem forever. Even though Jessica story is fictional, this type of experience does happen each and every day to women who are embarrassed when they accidentally pee their pants a little bit, when they cough, sneeze, or even jump on the trampoline. Over the past three years, over 120,000 women have purchased Natalie's ebook. This made Natalie Hodson a household name, giving her the ability to change the lives of countless women around the world and made her very wealthy in the process. The framework that Natalie used to get 120,000 people to buy her book, Abs, Core, Pelvic Floor, is called hook, story, offer." Oh, you guys see where this is going? Okay. So think about this. This is happening every single day. And I shared that story at the beginning because Natalie's business has blown up, but it's all based on the same concept. People have their phones, or they're on their computer. They're scrolling through Facebook and Instagram, through YouTube, through blogs, like whatever their method of learning is. They're doing their thing. And then something's got to capture their attention. Now for us, as business owners, as marketers, as entrepreneurs, as funnel hackers, our job has become great at getting people's attention, throwing out hooks that grab their attention. So for Natalie, as she was scrolling through their feed, they see her standing there embarrassed with the peed pants. Like she’s sobbing. What is that? Boom. You got them. You hooked them just long enough that you can now tell them a story. Now, the goal of the story is to increase the perceived value of whatever it is you're going to be selling. And then, excuse me, and then you make them an offer.. And that's it. That's the game. That's how we drive traffic. That's how we sell products with things that we're selling inside of our funnel. And I mentioned this earlier, what's interesting is as you start looking at your funnel, at your ad campaigns, everything, if something's not working, launched the ad campaign. It's not working. Why? It's always because of one of these three things, either the hook wasn't right. It's not getting people's attention. Or if it is grabbing attention, but then they're not buying, that means the story did not increase the perceived value of what they're selling, or what you're selling. And if the hook's good, and the story's good, it means the offers is no good. So if you get all three of them working, then everything works in the funnel. And that's true every page. Like the ad, there's a hook, a story, and an offer on the ad. There's a hook, story, offer on the landing page. There's a hook, story, offer on the sales page. Hook, story, offer on the upsell page. Hook, story, offer on the down sell page. Every single page in the funnel has a hook, a story, and an offer. This video alone, literally, I'm here with you guys. This video is a hook. There's a whole bunch of hooks around me. There's the books, the pictures. There's me reading a story. There's me being all animated. There's stuff like that. There's a headline. It's the hook, story, offer, attracted character on Facebook. It wasn't on Instagram because I can't do headline on Instagram. But that was the hook. And so far, live, I've gotten about 200 people on Instagram and about 350-ish on Facebook. So 500 people, boom, and with a second scroll because hook grabbed you guys to get your attention. Now, I have your attention. Now my job is to tell you a story. And the goal of my story is to increase the perceived value of the offer I'm going to be making. So I'm telling you a story about this book. I'm talking about it. I'm reading parts of it to you. I'm getting you excited, where you like, "Oh my gosh, I need that book." And if I've done my job right, if the story is good, it's increased the perceived value of this book. And then I make you the offer. Like, "Hey, I want you to go to trafficsecrets.com and get a copy of his book right now." Here's my offer so the offer is this book normally sells on Amazon for 24 95. You can get it for free at trafficsecrets.com. It's pre-launch right now, but you can get it for free. You just pay 9.95 shipping and handling, and I'll ship one out to you, as soon as we start shipping on May 5th. And then on top of that, I've got five bonuses you can go through immediately. There's five different videos you get for free. And you get this video. Each video is over an hour long of some of the greatest traffic minds on the planet. One was an hour long presentation that I gave at funnel hacking live. One's an hour long presentation, or a 30 minute presentation, for Peng Joon on traffic. And then there's Prince Ea. He's got over 3 billion views on his videos. There's a presentation from him. And there's, I'm blanking on the offer, but there's all these things. And now, if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you get this right now. So good. Hook, boom. I threw a hook out there. Got attention of 500 of you right now. And this will probably get, I don't know, between, over the next week, probably a hundred thousand plus views. So a hundred thousand people see this, if the hook was right. Okay. I tell the story. The story should be engaging. We get to know each other. And then I make you an offer. Hook, story, offer. That is the foundation of all marketing, all business. That's why it's now in the DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets and the Traffic Secrets books. It's your job to understand that. Now, in the Traffic Secrets book, it's called hook, story, offer, and the attractive character because it's you. It's your personality. You're the one who's throwing these hooks out. You're the one grabbing people's attention. You're going to have to be engaging. You have to be exciting. You have to be figuring things out. And there's books everywhere on every platform. Like, any of you guys who follow me on Instagram, you go to my wall. Everyone of those images is a hook. Like yesterday, I did an image of me holding a post-it note that had a scripture from the book of Esther that said, perhaps, I'm going to mess up the quote right now. "But perhaps you were born for times of right now." That was a hook to people's attention. There are all this panic, all this fear, and people are scrolling through feed. And then boom, I'm throwing the thing to say, "Look, the S is scary, but this is your time. It's time to step up and try to stand." I hooked. I was telling you a story. And the offer is just people like it. I think I had like 4,000 likes in the first, I don't know, like five or six hours. So hook, story, offer. It's happening there. It's happening there. It's happening when I'm selling, happening in my videos, happening in my emails, happening in my ads. Everywhere you're publishing, everything you're doing, hook, story, offer is there, over and over and over and over and over again. Kim said, "Russell, is a hook just an image?" It's not just an image. It can be an image. Yes. But it can be so many other things. A hook is anything that grabs your attention. And so when you're scrolling through your feed, sometimes the thing is like, in fact, this is your assignment. Tonight, when we got off this, whenever you get off this, whatever you're listening to, go to Instagram or Facebook or YouTube, wherever you're excited about. And just start scrolling, just go through the feed and start scrolling. And notice what things grab your attention. And when someone grabs your attention, stop. And then what was it that grabbed the attention? Was it the headline? Was it the image? Was it the crazy person? Was it something? Was it the comments? There's something that grabbed attention. Whatever that was that grabbed attention is the hook. So I'm making my videos. I'm looking for, I set up this location, right here, for a couple reasons. Like, here's a potential hook that might grab some. You see some books. I could put something on the screen, back here. I'm in my funnel hacker shirt. I'm excited. I'm talking. All these elements are things I'm doing to try to hook people. I don't know what's going hook. Something hooked all of you guys. Some of it's because you know who I am. So that's the hook. Some of it's, you're looking for traffic. That's the hook. Some of you guys just like, "There's this weird guy who's all excited. What is it? what's happening?" The hook is different… your energy is the best hook. So hook is just, it's whatever it is that grabs their attention. So it's all the tools we have in our tool chest. We're trying all of them. We're throwing everything out to get their attention just long enough that they're going to stop from their scrolling. List stop. And then you say, "Okay, cool. Now, I got your attention. Let me tell you a story." I'm telling the story. And again, the goal of the story is to build, to increase the perceived value of the thing that I'm going to sell them next, the offer I'm going to make. And then I make an offer. That's the game. That's it. What's fun is because now it's like when people have a funnel, like, "My funnels not working, Russ. What do I do?" And it's funny. I have people, we do consulting. And it's, I don't really do it any more because it just, I ran out of time. But last time I did consulting it was a hundred grand for a day, and people coming in like, "My funnel's not working. I want to increase." Literally, what I would do, I would go to the ad and look at that and say, "Okay, this ad is doing all right. How can we make it better? Is there any better hooks we could use? Is there a better story you can tell? What's a better offer?" And we spent some time on that. Then we'd go to the landing page. "Okay, here's your landing page. Cool. It's doing all right. What's a better hook we can do? What's a better story we could tell? What's a better offer?" And then go to sales page, hook, story, offer, hook, story, and that's it. There's no magic trick. You want to see the magician, how he reveals his magic tricks. That literally is it. It's hook, story, offer. If you paid me a hundred grand today, that's all we would do. What's interesting is at funnel hacking live two years, let's see, not last year but a year before, funnel hacking live, my opening keynote presentation, I talked about hook, story, offer for first time ever. And I remember Stacy Martino was there, and she said, "I went home that night. And I was like, 'Okay, I need some help, but I don't know what to do. If I was to pay Russell, he would just tell me it's hook, story, offer. So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to think what's my hook, my story, offer'." She started looking at her business. She said, "Oh my gosh, my story is amazing. My offer's amazing. I'm not throwing out enough hooks." She says, "I'm going to throw out some more hooks." So she started doing all these things, and she messaged me, I don't know, like two weeks later. She's like, "Russell, thanks for consulting." I'm like, "hat are you talking about?" She's like, "You told me that if I was to hire you, you'd do hook, story, offer. So I just looked through my own business. I said, 'Is it the hook, the story, the offer?' I realized it was hook. I threw out a bunch more hooks. And she said, "We just had the most profitable month of our entire business because of that." I'm like, "Wow, that's amazing." Like now, you know my tricks. Now I'm useless in the equation. That's what's important for you guys to understand. Your job as marketers is to become good at throwing out hooks that grab someone's attention. Then after you have their attention, tell them a story that builds the perceived value of the offer you're going to make them. And then make them an irresistible offer. When you become good at that, you'll be able to write your own paychecks for the rest your life. So your homework right now is to start going through your feed, newsfeed, Instagram, Facebook, Google, anywhere you're going at and start paying attention to the hooks that are grabbing your attention. And then if the hook grabs your attention, click on it. And then go listen. Listen to what's the story. What's the hook on the landing page? What's the story they're telling you? What's the offer? And you start paying attention. This is what funnel hacking is all about, noticing what's happening and watching it and paying close attention because the way you do this is not going to be magic. It's just you're looking at that, and you're figuring out how do I do the same thing? How do I throw out hooks? How do I tell stories? Especially right now, like right now, the media is good at this. Why is media pushing so much fear? Because fear is a great hook I'm not a big believer in let's throw fear out there to try to sell products. But that's what the media is doing. They're really good at throwing out hooks. They call it clickbait. The clickbait, they're trying to get hooks out there. It's the same thing, but ethical, that you're trying to do. And so that should help. So Mateo said, "How do you help us survive in Corona time?" This is how you survive. You need to build a life preserver around your business. The life preserver are customers. Business is all about just getting customers and serving them at the highest level possible. People still have money. There's the false belief like, "Oh no, people don't have money." It's like, no, they still have money. Money hasn't disappeared. It's going to shift a lot of businesses. People are losing jobs and stuff, but it's like, you understand people have money. They're still spending money on things that they need. Like, look at what people are buying now. There's a lot of things people are buying right now. You have to understand that, and you have to protect your company. You have to build a life preserver of customers. And how do you do that? The best way is to get traffic, people, customers to you, which is why I'm going live every single day until further notice about this Traffic Secrets book because that's what I'm talking about. I know I have an interview. I got to jump off. It's happening in three minutes. So I'm going to bounce, but I want all you guys right now, it's time right now, during this moment of fear and frustration and quarantine and whatever the season we're in right now, this is the time for you to sharpen your saw and become better. I recommend going to trafficsecrets.com, getting copy of the free book. The book doesn't ship until May 5th. But the order form bump, the upsells is the audio book, which is seven hours of me reading the book. You can get it today. It's ready right now. So that's happening. And then, like I said, I'm going live every day during the weekday, going through chapter by chapter. So go pay attention. Go back and watch and start learning these principles. Even while you're waiting for the book, you can start understanding these principles and start becoming better at them. And test some hooks today. Post something on your Instagram wall or your Facebook wall or wherever you post stuff and test a hook out. See if you can get someone's attention. And just practice your hooks because the better you get at hooks, the more people. That's kind of game plan. So, all right, that's it you guys. It's time. Go get your book at trafficsecrets.com. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out today. You're all amazing. And I hope you guys enjoy your time in quarantine. I know it's scary and stressful times, but we need to be focusing on the positive and focusing on building life preservers around your business, which is traffic. It's customers. It's people. And so let's focus all about how to get, not just customers. If I can get this down here, not just customers, but how to get your dream customers, the right ones, the ones you actually want to serve into your business. And so that's the game plan. All right. Thanks guys. Appreciate you all. And we'll talk to you all tomorrow. All right. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Hook, Story, Offer (and the Attractive Character) (TS) full 452 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to know how to grab (and KEEP) your customers' attention, and draw them into your world? On this episode, Russell shares: The 3-part method to crafting a... Here is another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to know how to grab (and KEEP) your customers' attention, and draw them into your world? On this episode, Russell shares: The 3-part method to crafting a high-converting sales funnel. How Natalie Hodson used this method to sell 120K copies of her book! How to use this SAME method to attract and convert your dream customers, no matter where they're coming from! Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to wherever you're hanging out with me at. We've got Instagram. We've got Facebook going right now. And I am home during week number two of our quarantine. And I'm guessing a lot of you guys are as well. And so while we're sitting here, trying to figure out what to do, I figured this is a good time to start talking more about traffic. So hopefully, you guys are all excited and pumped for that. Anyway, excited to be here with you guys today. And it's interesting, as we were talking this morning as a team, and we started talking about all the fears. There are obviously a lot of fears, right now, happening in society and the economy and things like that. It's like, "Well, how do we protect ourselves? How do we create a life preserver around our company? What does it look like? What does that need to be?" And honestly, the biggest, most important life preserver you can create for your company is getting customers. That is your life preserver, especially in times right now, where so many companies aren't able to get customers. That's why the economy's failing, why businesses are failing is because they can't get customers. And so I figured, from now until the next, I don't know, two or three weeks, two or three months, I'm going to be talking about this like crazy with you guys. How do we get customers? How do we get customers? Because it's the thing that we all need right now. It's the safety net we need to protect ourselves and to protect our businesses. And so that's kind of the game plan. So with that said, you guys excited if we go jump back into Traffic Secrets book some more? First off, thank you so much for all you guys. Obviously, we launched this Traffic Secrets book in the middle of chaos, and the books are selling like crazy. And so I want to thank you guys so much for doing that. That's exciting. Tom Greece said, "We are pregnant, and the next generation funnel hackers are on the way." Congratulations, Tom. We got funnel hacking babies coming. I love it. Oh, I heard the prediction is that after this whole everyone's quarantine come down, there's going to be a whole bunch of babies popping up nine months later. And the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed with that. So good thing they're preparing now, I guess. Anyway, so I want to jump into this next section here of Traffic Secrets with you guys. So if you have been, obviously, the books don't ship until May 5th, but tons of you guys have been, told me you got the audio book, which is awesome. If you've been listening to all of the things, today we're going to be jumping into secret number three, which is by far the most, probably one of, if not the most, important secrets in the entire book, which I'm excited for you guys to get into. So things we've covered so far. Secret number one, we talked about who is your dream customer and really getting a deep understanding of them. Are they moving towards pleasure or away from pain? Are they a searcher? Are they a scroller? Getting deep into their mindsets so we understand them because if we understand who they are, then we can understand secret number two, which is where are they actually hiding. Where are they congregating online? Where is the existing streams of traffic happening? So we can go, we can find those people, and we can tap into them. So that's number two. So now secret number three is what we call, are you guys ready for this? Hook, story, offer, and the attractive character. Now, man, if you guys have been following me at all for the last two years, not quite, a year and a half or so, about a year and half ago-ish is when I first came up with the new framework, hook, story, offer. And I started freaking out. I was like, "Ah." And I remember it was one of those things, where I was doing a training for my two comma club X members, and it just kind of came out. I was teaching something, and I was like, "if you notice, every single page in the funnel has hook, story, offer. The ad does. The emails do. The landing page, the sales page, upsells, every single page has hook, story, offer. And as we got deeper and deeper into it, I realized that if anything in the funnel isn't working, it's always because of either the hook, the story, or the offer. And then I started freaking out. I remember the next morning I came in, it was like six in the morning. I was lifting weights with James P. Friel and Dave Woodward. And I was like, "You guys, guess what? I just figured out this thing." And they're like, "What is it?" I'm like, "It's called hook, story, offer." And they're like, "That sounds weird." And we spent the entire hour, we didn't lift a single weight that day. We just talked about hook, story, offer. And they were freaking out. I was freaking out. I'm looking at every funnel we've ever done. Like, what was the thing that made them work and not work? And it was crazy that every single time it always had to come down, and it was always either the hook, the story, or the offer. And so I want to give you guys, as you guys know, when I wrote the new Traffic Seekers book, at the same time I went and I rewrote the DotCom secrets book. I rewrote the Expert Secrets book. And then I wrote this book as well. I wrote this one first, and then rewrote those other two. And because hook, story, offer, it's crazy because it's such a fundamental important concept. But because I didn't come up with that framework until after these first two books were published, these two books were missing it. And so part of the big rewrites in these include the hook, story, offer. So in DotCom Secrets book, I go deep in hook, story, offer. Expert Secrets, I go back into it as well. In DotCom Secrets, we talk a lot about funnel audibles and testing your funnel and funnels not working. And there's a whole new section in the back here about that. And what's cool about it is it's all based back on hook, story, offer. Anyway, and so in the new book, Traffic Secrets, I talk a lot about this as well because it's such a big part. In fact, traffic, one of the most important things I've tracked is being good at throwing out hooks. A hook is like, how do you grab someone's attention? Most of our customers all day are on their phone scrolling, and they're scrolling, and they're scrolling. A hook is the thing that gets them to stop scrolling. So the hook could be the picture of you. Notice I didn't just do this on a white wall. I'm like, "Hey, I need a picture back here." And I totally forgot. I usually have something different back here, but there's the default Apple TV backdrop. I've got my books here. And then, notice I'm doing things like this. I'm trying to hook your attention. So if you're scrolling through Facebook or Instagram, all of a sudden you see this. Like, "Why is Russell so excited? Ah." And that hooks you. So hook could be the headline. It could be the image. It could be the picture. It could be a backer. It's everything you have in your tool chest to grab someone's attention. There's hook. Okay. The second part of hook, story, offer is story, which in the Expert Secrets book is the deep dive on story, storytelling, story process, how it works, how it doesn't work. And so I talk about story a lot here, but Traffic Secrets is primarily finding the people and getting hooks to grab their attention. Expert secrets is like how you tell the story to build a perceived value of what you're going to sell. And then actually, in Dotcom secrets, we go deeper into offer. So you got hook, story, offer. They kind of weave backwards in the books, but I touch upon them deep in each book. But so, Traffic Seekers book, in section number three, or secret number three, is all about hook, story, offer. So I'm going to flip open to there really quick. So you see the picture here. If you guys can see, if you're watching, you can see there's a picture of all these little hooks. Then there's the story. And there's the offer. And this is the core framework of funnels. When you really start understanding it. All right. Are you guys cool, if I read you part of the book? Ah. Okay, I'm going to read you a story. And this is, anyway, this is a fun one. "So it was 9:27 PM. Sorry. It's 9:27 PM. And the last of Jessica's kids had just fallen asleep. It had been a long day that started out way before the sun came up and was finally ending. While Jessica was exhausted, it was her time now. And she had a few precious moments to herself without kids pulling her in a million directions." Does that sound like any of you guys? If you've got kids, it sounds like me, especially during this quarantine. "Soon she would have to start her nighttime routine of cleaning up the house, getting herself ready for bed, taking off her makeup, and finally falling asleep for a few hours before she had to wake up and start it all over again. As she fell on the couch, she reached in to her pocket and slowly pulled out her phone. What had been happening in everyone else's lives today, she wondered. She opened Facebook and swiped through the lives of her friends and family, hoping to find some comfort, knowing that she wasn't the only one who had a busy day. Soon she started to get bored. But when she was about to close the app, she saw an image fly past her screen. She almost missed it, but she slowly moved her finger back up the phone, bringing the picture into the middle of the screen. Yep. She thought she was right. It was a picture of a woman about her age in workout clothes with gray shorts on. The thing that caught her eye wasn't the shorts, though, it was the dark gray spot in the middle of her shorts. A little confused. She looked around above the image and read the words, 'Let me tell you about the time that I peed my pants during a workout. I was filming for dollar workout club. I'd never been so embarrassed before.' Jessica was right. It was a picture of a grown woman who had peed her pants. She laughed for a second, but then her laughter turned into uneasiness as she realized that she knew exactly how this woman had felt. She had experienced the same thing earlier that year, when her kids had wanted her to jump on the trampoline with them. She wanted to be a good mom, but after a few jumps, she had to get off because she had peed her pants. She quickly came up with a reason why she couldn't jump anymore. And after apologizing to her kids, she had run to her house to get changed. She knew the story she told her kids wasn't true, which added to her mom guilt even more. This also made her think about other activities she knew she would love to do but were off limits for the same reason. After a few seconds of looking at the image, Jessica decided she wanted to see why in the world this woman would post a picture of herself on Facebook telling others that she had peed her pants. She clicked on the image and was immediately taken to the page of the video with the same woman in the picture. Jessica clicked on the video and started listening to the story. The woman's name was Natalie Hodson, and she was a fitness blogger and a mom of two amazing kids, who were both 10 pound babies. Natalie told her embarrassing story, when she accidentally peed her pants during a workout she was filming for her blogs. She then talked about a doctor that she had met, who specialized in helping women with this problem. She shared how the doctors were able to help her. And after she had success, she wanted to share it with other women. Natalie mentioned she had worked with the doctor to create an online program that anyone could do from home with simple exercises to strengthen their abs, core, and pelvic floor. Together, Natalie and the doctors, made an ebook that also came with bonuses, like diet, nutrition trips, exercises, and movements, and special training programs. They wanted to make this offer for all the moms who had struggled with accidental leaks after having babies but didn't have the ability to meet with the doctor in person. Instead, you could get the same advice without ever leaving the comfort of your home, and you can get the ebook with all these bonuses mentioned for just $47. Excited, Jessica jumped off the couch and ran across the room to find her credit card. After typing in her credit card numbers, within minutes, she had access to the ebook that would solve her problem forever. Even though Jessica story is fictional, this type of experience does happen each and every day to women who are embarrassed when they accidentally pee their pants a little bit, when they cough, sneeze, or even jump on the trampoline. Over the past three years, over 120,000 women have purchased Natalie's ebook. This made Natalie Hodson a household name, giving her the ability to change the lives of countless women around the world and made her very wealthy in the process. The framework that Natalie used to get 120,000 people to buy her book, Abs, Core, Pelvic Floor, is called hook, story, offer." Oh, you guys see where this is going? Okay. So think about this. This is happening every single day. And I shared that story at the beginning because Natalie's business has blown up, but it's all based on the same concept. People have their phones, or they're on their computer. They're scrolling through Facebook and Instagram, through YouTube, through blogs, like whatever their method of learning is. They're doing their thing. And then something's got to capture their attention. Now for us, as business owners, as marketers, as entrepreneurs, as funnel hackers, our job has become great at getting people's attention, throwing out hooks that grab their attention. So for Natalie, as she was scrolling through their feed, they see her standing there embarrassed with the peed pants. Like she’s sobbing. What is that? Boom. You got them. You hooked them just long enough that you can now tell them a story. Now, the goal of the story is to increase the perceived value of whatever it is you're going to be selling. And then, excuse me, and then you make them an offer.. And that's it. That's the game. That's how we drive traffic. That's how we sell products with things that we're selling inside of our funnel. And I mentioned this earlier, what's interesting is as you start looking at your funnel, at your ad campaigns, everything, if something's not working, launched the ad campaign. It's not working. Why? It's always because of one of these three things, either the hook wasn't right. It's not getting people's attention. Or if it is grabbing attention, but then they're not buying, that means the story did not increase the perceived value of what they're selling, or what you're selling. And if the hook's good, and the story's good, it means the offers is no good. So if you get all three of them working, then everything works in the funnel. And that's true every page. Like the ad, there's a hook, a story, and an offer on the ad. There's a hook, story, offer on the landing page. There's a hook, story, offer on the sales page. Hook, story, offer on the upsell page. Hook, story, offer on the down sell page. Every single page in the funnel has a hook, a story, and an offer. This video alone, literally, I'm here with you guys. This video is a hook. There's a whole bunch of hooks around me. There's the books, the pictures. There's me reading a story. There's me being all animated. There's stuff like that. There's a headline. It's the hook, story, offer, attracted character on Facebook. It wasn't on Instagram because I can't do headline on Instagram. But that was the hook. And so far, live, I've gotten about 200 people on Instagram and about 350-ish on Facebook. So 500 people, boom, and with a second scroll because hook grabbed you guys to get your attention. Now, I have your attention. Now my job is to tell you a story. And the goal of my story is to increase the perceived value of the offer I'm going to be making. So I'm telling you a story about this book. I'm talking about it. I'm reading parts of it to you. I'm getting you excited, where you like, "Oh my gosh, I need that book." And if I've done my job right, if the story is good, it's increased the perceived value of this book. And then I make you the offer. Like, "Hey, I want you to go to trafficsecrets.com and get a copy of his book right now." Here's my offer so the offer is this book normally sells on Amazon for 24 95. You can get it for free at trafficsecrets.com. It's pre-launch right now, but you can get it for free. You just pay 9.95 shipping and handling, and I'll ship one out to you, as soon as we start shipping on May 5th. And then on top of that, I've got five bonuses you can go through immediately. There's five different videos you get for free. And you get this video. Each video is over an hour long of some of the greatest traffic minds on the planet. One was an hour long presentation that I gave at funnel hacking live. One's an hour long presentation, or a 30 minute presentation, for Peng Joon on traffic. And then there's Prince Ea. He's got over 3 billion views on his videos. There's a presentation from him. And there's, I'm blanking on the offer, but there's all these things. And now, if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you get this right now. So good. Hook, boom. I threw a hook out there. Got attention of 500 of you right now. And this will probably get, I don't know, between, over the next week, probably a hundred thousand plus views. So a hundred thousand people see this, if the hook was right. Okay. I tell the story. The story should be engaging. We get to know each other. And then I make you an offer. Hook, story, offer. That is the foundation of all marketing, all business. That's why it's now in the DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets and the Traffic Secrets books. It's your job to understand that. Now, in the Traffic Secrets book, it's called hook, story, offer, and the attractive character because it's you. It's your personality. You're the one who's throwing these hooks out. You're the one grabbing people's attention. You're going to have to be engaging. You have to be exciting. You have to be figuring things out. And there's books everywhere on every platform. Like, any of you guys who follow me on Instagram, you go to my wall. Everyone of those images is a hook. Like yesterday, I did an image of me holding a post-it note that had a scripture from the book of Esther that said, perhaps, I'm going to mess up the quote right now. "But perhaps you were born for times of right now." That was a hook to people's attention. There are all this panic, all this fear, and people are scrolling through feed. And then boom, I'm throwing the thing to say, "Look, the S is scary, but this is your time. It's time to step up and try to stand." I hooked. I was telling you a story. And the offer is just people like it. I think I had like 4,000 likes in the first, I don't know, like five or six hours. So hook, story, offer. It's happening there. It's happening there. It's happening when I'm selling, happening in my videos, happening in my emails, happening in my ads. Everywhere you're publishing, everything you're doing, hook, story, offer is there, over and over and over and over and over again. Kim said, "Russell, is a hook just an image?" It's not just an image. It can be an image. Yes. But it can be so many other things. A hook is anything that grabs your attention. And so when you're scrolling through your feed, sometimes the thing is like, in fact, this is your assignment. Tonight, when we got off this, whenever you get off this, whatever you're listening to, go to Instagram or Facebook or YouTube, wherever you're excited about. And just start scrolling, just go through the feed and start scrolling. And notice what things grab your attention. And when someone grabs your attention, stop. And then what was it that grabbed the attention? Was it the headline? Was it the image? Was it the crazy person? Was it something? Was it the comments? There's something that grabbed attention. Whatever that was that grabbed attention is the hook. So I'm making my videos. I'm looking for, I set up this location, right here, for a couple reasons. Like, here's a potential hook that might grab some. You see some books. I could put something on the screen, back here. I'm in my funnel hacker shirt. I'm excited. I'm talking. All these elements are things I'm doing to try to hook people. I don't know what's going hook. Something hooked all of you guys. Some of it's because you know who I am. So that's the hook. Some of it's, you're looking for traffic. That's the hook. Some of you guys just like, "There's this weird guy who's all excited. What is it? what's happening?" The hook is different… your energy is the best hook. So hook is just, it's whatever it is that grabs their attention. So it's all the tools we have in our tool chest. We're trying all of them. We're throwing everything out to get their attention just long enough that they're going to stop from their scrolling. List stop. And then you say, "Okay, cool. Now, I got your attention. Let me tell you a story." I'm telling the story. And again, the goal of the story is to build, to increase the perceived value of the thing that I'm going to sell them next, the offer I'm going to make. And then I make an offer. That's the game. That's it. What's fun is because now it's like when people have a funnel, like, "My funnels not working, Russ. What do I do?" And it's funny. I have people, we do consulting. And it's, I don't really do it any more because it just, I ran out of time. But last time I did consulting it was a hundred grand for a day, and people coming in like, "My funnel's not working. I want to increase." Literally, what I would do, I would go to the ad and look at that and say, "Okay, this ad is doing all right. How can we make it better? Is there any better hooks we could use? Is there a better story you can tell? What's a better offer?" And we spent some time on that. Then we'd go to the landing page. "Okay, here's your landing page. Cool. It's doing all right. What's a better hook we can do? What's a better story we could tell? What's a better offer?" And then go to sales page, hook, story, offer, hook, story, and that's it. There's no magic trick. You want to see the magician, how he reveals his magic tricks. That literally is it. It's hook, story, offer. If you paid me a hundred grand today, that's all we would do. What's interesting is at funnel hacking live two years, let's see, not last year but a year before, funnel hacking live, my opening keynote presentation, I talked about hook, story, offer for first time ever. And I remember Stacy Martino was there, and she said, "I went home that night. And I was like, 'Okay, I need some help, but I don't know what to do. If I was to pay Russell, he would just tell me it's hook, story, offer. So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to think what's my hook, my story, offer'." She started looking at her business. She said, "Oh my gosh, my story is amazing. My offer's amazing. I'm not throwing out enough hooks." She says, "I'm going to throw out some more hooks." So she started doing all these things, and she messaged me, I don't know, like two weeks later. She's like, "Russell, thanks for consulting." I'm like, "hat are you talking about?" She's like, "You told me that if I was to hire you, you'd do hook, story, offer. So I just looked through my own business. I said, 'Is it the hook, the story, the offer?' I realized it was hook. I threw out a bunch more hooks. And she said, "We just had the most profitable month of our entire business because of that." I'm like, "Wow, that's amazing." Like now, you know my tricks. Now I'm useless in the equation. That's what's important for you guys to understand. Your job as marketers is to become good at throwing out hooks that grab someone's attention. Then after you have their attention, tell them a story that builds the perceived value of the offer you're going to make them. And then make them an irresistible offer. When you become good at that, you'll be able to write your own paychecks for the rest your life. So your homework right now is to start going through your feed, newsfeed, Instagram, Facebook, Google, anywhere you're going at and start paying attention to the hooks that are grabbing your attention. And then if the hook grabs your attention, click on it. And then go listen. Listen to what's the story. What's the hook on the landing page? What's the story they're telling you? What's the offer? And you start paying attention. This is what funnel hacking is all about, noticing what's happening and watching it and paying close attention because the way you do this is not going to be magic. It's just you're looking at that, and you're figuring out how do I do the same thing? How do I throw out hooks? How do I tell stories? Especially right now, like right now, the media is good at this. Why is media pushing so much fear? Because fear is a great hook I'm not a big believer in let's throw fear out there to try to sell products. But that's what the media is doing. They're really good at throwing out hooks. They call it clickbait. The clickbait, they're trying to get hooks out there. It's the same thing, but ethical, that you're trying to do. And so that should help. So Mateo said, "How do you help us survive in Corona time?" This is how you survive. You need to build a life preserver around your business. The life preserver are customers. Business is all about just getting customers and serving them at the highest level possible. People still have money. There's the false belief like, "Oh no, people don't have money." It's like, no, they still have money. Money hasn't disappeared. It's going to shift a lot of businesses. People are losing jobs and stuff, but it's like, you understand people have money. They're still spending money on things that they need. Like, look at what people are buying now. There's a lot of things people are buying right now. You have to understand that, and you have to protect your company. You have to build a life preserver of customers. And how do you do that? The best way is to get traffic, people, customers to you, which is why I'm going live every single day until further notice about this Traffic Secrets book because that's what I'm talking about. I know I have an interview. I got to jump off. It's happening in three minutes. So I'm going to bounce, but I want all you guys right now, it's time right now, during this moment of fear and frustration and quarantine and whatever the season we're in right now, this is the time for you to sharpen your saw and become better. I recommend going to trafficsecrets.com, getting copy of the free book. The book doesn't ship until May 5th. But the order form bump, the upsells is the audio book, which is seven hours of me reading the book. You can get it today. It's ready right now. So that's happening. And then, like I said, I'm going live every day during the weekday, going through chapter by chapter. So go pay attention. Go back and watch and start learning these principles. Even while you're waiting for the book, you can start understanding these principles and start becoming better at them. And test some hooks today. Post something on your Instagram wall or your Facebook wall or wherever you post stuff and test a hook out. See if you can get someone's attention. And just practice your hooks because the better you get at hooks, the more people. That's kind of game plan. So, all right, that's it you guys. It's time. Go get your book at trafficsecrets.com. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out today. You're all amazing. And I hope you guys enjoy your time in quarantine. I know it's scary and stressful times, but we need to be focusing on the positive and focusing on building life preservers around your business, which is traffic. It's customers. It's people. And so let's focus all about how to get, not just customers. If I can get this down here, not just customers, but how to get your dream customers, the right ones, the ones you actually want to serve into your business. And so that's the game plan. All right. Thanks guys. Appreciate you all. And we'll talk to you all tomorrow. All right. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast.

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Hey everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to wherever you're hanging out with me at. We've got Instagram. We've got Facebook going right now. And I am home during week number two of our quarantine. And I'm guessing a lot of you guys are as well. And so while we're sitting here, trying to figure out what to do, I figured this is a good time to start talking more about traffic. So hopefully, you guys are all excited and pumped for that. Anyway, excited to be here with you guys today. And it's interesting, as we were talking this morning as a team, and we started talking about all the fears. There are obviously a lot of fears, right now, happening in society and the economy and things like that. It's like, "Well, how do we protect ourselves? How do we create a life preserver around our company? What does it look like? What does that need to be?" And honestly, the biggest, most important life preserver you can create for your company is getting customers. That is your life preserver, especially in times right now, where so many companies aren't able to get customers. That's why the economy's failing, why businesses are failing is because they can't get customers.

And so I figured, from now until the next, I don't know, two or three weeks, two or three months, I'm going to be talking about this like crazy with you guys. How do we get customers? How do we get customers? Because it's the thing that we all need right now. It's the safety net we need to protect ourselves and to protect our businesses. And so that's kind of the game plan. So with that said, you guys excited if we go jump back into Traffic Secrets book some more? First off, thank you so much for all you guys. Obviously, we launched this Traffic Secrets book in the middle of chaos, and the books are selling like crazy. And so I want to thank you guys so much for doing that. That's exciting. Tom Greece said, "We are pregnant, and the next generation funnel hackers are on the way." Congratulations, Tom. We got funnel hacking babies coming. I love it. Oh, I heard the prediction is that after this whole everyone's quarantine come down, there's going to be a whole bunch of babies popping up nine months later. And the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed with that. So good thing they're preparing now, I guess.

Anyway, so I want to jump into this next section here of Traffic Secrets with you guys. So if you have been, obviously, the books don't ship until May 5th, but tons of you guys have been, told me you got the audio book, which is awesome. If you've been listening to all of the things, today we're going to be jumping into secret number three, which is by far the most, probably one of, if not the most, important secrets in the entire book, which I'm excited for you guys to get into. So things we've covered so far. Secret number one, we talked about who is your dream customer and really getting a deep understanding of them. Are they moving towards pleasure or away from pain? Are they a searcher? Are they a scroller? Getting deep into their mindsets so we understand them because if we understand who they are, then we can understand secret number two, which is where are they actually hiding. Where are they congregating online? Where is the existing streams of traffic happening? So we can go, we can find those people, and we can tap into them. So that's number two.

So now secret number three is what we call, are you guys ready for this? Hook, story, offer, and the attractive character. Now, man, if you guys have been following me at all for the last two years, not quite, a year and a half or so, about a year and half ago-ish is when I first came up with the new framework, hook, story, offer. And I started freaking out. I was like, "Ah." And I remember it was one of those things, where I was doing a training for my two comma club X members, and it just kind of came out. I was teaching something, and I was like, "if you notice, every single page in the funnel has hook, story, offer. The ad does. The emails do. The landing page, the sales page, upsells, every single page has hook, story, offer. And as we got deeper and deeper into it, I realized that if anything in the funnel isn't working, it's always because of either the hook, the story, or the offer. And then I started freaking out.

I remember the next morning I came in, it was like six in the morning. I was lifting weights with James P. Friel and Dave Woodward. And I was like, "You guys, guess what? I just figured out this thing." And they're like, "What is it?" I'm like, "It's called hook, story, offer." And they're like, "That sounds weird." And we spent the entire hour, we didn't lift a single weight that day. We just talked about hook, story, offer. And they were freaking out. I was freaking out. I'm looking at every funnel we've ever done. Like, what was the thing that made them work and not work? And it was crazy that every single time it always had to come down, and it was always either the hook, the story, or the offer.

And so I want to give you guys, as you guys know, when I wrote the new Traffic Seekers book, at the same time I went and I rewrote the DotCom secrets book. I rewrote the Expert Secrets book. And then I wrote this book as well. I wrote this one first, and then rewrote those other two. And because hook, story, offer, it's crazy because it's such a fundamental important concept. But because I didn't come up with that framework until after these first two books were published, these two books were missing it. And so part of the big rewrites in these include the hook, story, offer. So in DotCom Secrets book, I go deep in hook, story, offer. Expert Secrets, I go back into it as well. In DotCom Secrets, we talk a lot about funnel audibles and testing your funnel and funnels not working. And there's a whole new section in the back here about that. And what's cool about it is it's all based back on hook, story, offer.

Anyway, and so in the new book, Traffic Secrets, I talk a lot about this as well because it's such a big part. In fact, traffic, one of the most important things I've tracked is being good at throwing out hooks. A hook is like, how do you grab someone's attention? Most of our customers all day are on their phone scrolling, and they're scrolling, and they're scrolling. A hook is the thing that gets them to stop scrolling. So the hook could be the picture of you. Notice I didn't just do this on a white wall. I'm like, "Hey, I need a picture back here." And I totally forgot. I usually have something different back here, but there's the default Apple TV backdrop. I've got my books here. And then, notice I'm doing things like this. I'm trying to hook your attention. So if you're scrolling through Facebook or Instagram, all of a sudden you see this. Like, "Why is Russell so excited? Ah." And that hooks you. So hook could be the headline. It could be the image. It could be the picture. It could be a backer. It's everything you have in your tool chest to grab someone's attention. There's hook. Okay.

The second part of hook, story, offer is story, which in the Expert Secrets book is the deep dive on story, storytelling, story process, how it works, how it doesn't work. And so I talk about story a lot here, but Traffic Secrets is primarily finding the people and getting hooks to grab their attention. Expert secrets is like how you tell the story to build a perceived value of what you're going to sell. And then actually, in Dotcom secrets, we go deeper into offer. So you got hook, story, offer. They kind of weave backwards in the books, but I touch upon them deep in each book. But so, Traffic Seekers book, in section number three, or secret number three, is all about hook, story, offer. So I'm going to flip open to there really quick. So you see the picture here. If you guys can see, if you're watching, you can see there's a picture of all these little hooks. Then there's the story. And there's the offer. And this is the core framework of funnels. When you really start understanding it. All right.

Are you guys cool, if I read you part of the book? Ah. Okay, I'm going to read you a story. And this is, anyway, this is a fun one. "So it was 9:27 PM. Sorry. It's 9:27 PM. And the last of Jessica's kids had just fallen asleep. It had been a long day that started out way before the sun came up and was finally ending. While Jessica was exhausted, it was her time now. And she had a few precious moments to herself without kids pulling her in a million directions." Does that sound like any of you guys? If you've got kids, it sounds like me, especially during this quarantine. "Soon she would have to start her nighttime routine of cleaning up the house, getting herself ready for bed, taking off her makeup, and finally falling asleep for a few hours before she had to wake up and start it all over again. As she fell on the couch, she reached in to her pocket and slowly pulled out her phone. What had been happening in everyone else's lives today, she wondered. She opened Facebook and swiped through the lives of her friends and family, hoping to find some comfort, knowing that she wasn't the only one who had a busy day. Soon she started to get bored.

But when she was about to close the app, she saw an image fly past her screen. She almost missed it, but she slowly moved her finger back up the phone, bringing the picture into the middle of the screen. Yep. She thought she was right. It was a picture of a woman about her age in workout clothes with gray shorts on. The thing that caught her eye wasn't the shorts, though, it was the dark gray spot in the middle of her shorts. A little confused. She looked around above the image and read the words, 'Let me tell you about the time that I peed my pants during a workout. I was filming for dollar workout club. I'd never been so embarrassed before.' Jessica was right. It was a picture of a grown woman who had peed her pants. She laughed for a second, but then her laughter turned into uneasiness as she realized that she knew exactly how this woman had felt. She had experienced the same thing earlier that year, when her kids had wanted her to jump on the trampoline with them. She wanted to be a good mom, but after a few jumps, she had to get off because she had peed her pants. She quickly came up with a reason why she couldn't jump anymore. And after apologizing to her kids, she had run to her house to get changed.

She knew the story she told her kids wasn't true, which added to her mom guilt even more. This also made her think about other activities she knew she would love to do but were off limits for the same reason. After a few seconds of looking at the image, Jessica decided she wanted to see why in the world this woman would post a picture of herself on Facebook telling others that she had peed her pants. She clicked on the image and was immediately taken to the page of the video with the same woman in the picture. Jessica clicked on the video and started listening to the story. The woman's name was Natalie Hodson, and she was a fitness blogger and a mom of two amazing kids, who were both 10 pound babies. Natalie told her embarrassing story, when she accidentally peed her pants during a workout she was filming for her blogs. She then talked about a doctor that she had met, who specialized in helping women with this problem. She shared how the doctors were able to help her. And after she had success, she wanted to share it with other women. Natalie mentioned she had worked with the doctor to create an online program that anyone could do from home with simple exercises to strengthen their abs, core, and pelvic floor.

Together, Natalie and the doctors, made an ebook that also came with bonuses, like diet, nutrition trips, exercises, and movements, and special training programs. They wanted to make this offer for all the moms who had struggled with accidental leaks after having babies but didn't have the ability to meet with the doctor in person. Instead, you could get the same advice without ever leaving the comfort of your home, and you can get the ebook with all these bonuses mentioned for just $47. Excited, Jessica jumped off the couch and ran across the room to find her credit card. After typing in her credit card numbers, within minutes, she had access to the ebook that would solve her problem forever. Even though Jessica story is fictional, this type of experience does happen each and every day to women who are embarrassed when they accidentally pee their pants a little bit, when they cough, sneeze, or even jump on the trampoline. Over the past three years, over 120,000 women have purchased Natalie's ebook. This made Natalie Hodson a household name, giving her the ability to change the lives of countless women around the world and made her very wealthy in the process. The framework that Natalie used to get 120,000 people to buy her book, Abs, Core, Pelvic Floor, is called hook, story, offer."

Oh, you guys see where this is going? Okay. So think about this. This is happening every single day. And I shared that story at the beginning because Natalie's business has blown up, but it's all based on the same concept. People have their phones, or they're on their computer. They're scrolling through Facebook and Instagram, through YouTube, through blogs, like whatever their method of learning is. They're doing their thing. And then something's got to capture their attention. Now for us, as business owners, as marketers, as entrepreneurs, as funnel hackers, our job has become great at getting people's attention, throwing out hooks that grab their attention. So for Natalie, as she was scrolling through their feed, they see her standing there embarrassed with the peed pants. Like she’s sobbing. What is that? Boom. You got them. You hooked them just long enough that you can now tell them a story. Now, the goal of the story is to increase the perceived value of whatever it is you're going to be selling. And then, excuse me, and then you make them an offer.. And that's it. That's the game. That's how we drive traffic. That's how we sell products with things that we're selling inside of our funnel.

And I mentioned this earlier, what's interesting is as you start looking at your funnel, at your ad campaigns, everything, if something's not working, launched the ad campaign. It's not working. Why? It's always because of one of these three things, either the hook wasn't right. It's not getting people's attention. Or if it is grabbing attention, but then they're not buying, that means the story did not increase the perceived value of what they're selling, or what you're selling. And if the hook's good, and the story's good, it means the offers is no good. So if you get all three of them working, then everything works in the funnel. And that's true every page. Like the ad, there's a hook, a story, and an offer on the ad. There's a hook, story, offer on the landing page. There's a hook, story, offer on the sales page. Hook, story, offer on the upsell page. Hook, story, offer on the down sell page. Every single page in the funnel has a hook, a story, and an offer.

This video alone, literally, I'm here with you guys. This video is a hook. There's a whole bunch of hooks around me. There's the books, the pictures. There's me reading a story. There's me being all animated. There's stuff like that. There's a headline. It's the hook, story, offer, attracted character on Facebook. It wasn't on Instagram because I can't do headline on Instagram. But that was the hook. And so far, live, I've gotten about 200 people on Instagram and about 350-ish on Facebook. So 500 people, boom, and with a second scroll because hook grabbed you guys to get your attention. Now, I have your attention. Now my job is to tell you a story. And the goal of my story is to increase the perceived value of the offer I'm going to be making. So I'm telling you a story about this book. I'm talking about it. I'm reading parts of it to you. I'm getting you excited, where you like, "Oh my gosh, I need that book." And if I've done my job right, if the story is good, it's increased the perceived value of this book.

And then I make you the offer. Like, "Hey, I want you to go to trafficsecrets.com and get a copy of his book right now." Here's my offer so the offer is this book normally sells on Amazon for 24 95. You can get it for free at trafficsecrets.com. It's pre-launch right now, but you can get it for free. You just pay 9.95 shipping and handling, and I'll ship one out to you, as soon as we start shipping on May 5th. And then on top of that, I've got five bonuses you can go through immediately. There's five different videos you get for free. And you get this video. Each video is over an hour long of some of the greatest traffic minds on the planet. One was an hour long presentation that I gave at funnel hacking live. One's an hour long presentation, or a 30 minute presentation, for Peng Joon on traffic. And then there's Prince Ea. He's got over 3 billion views on his videos. There's a presentation from him. And there's, I'm blanking on the offer, but there's all these things. And now, if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you get this right now. So good.

Hook, boom. I threw a hook out there. Got attention of 500 of you right now. And this will probably get, I don't know, between, over the next week, probably a hundred thousand plus views. So a hundred thousand people see this, if the hook was right. Okay. I tell the story. The story should be engaging. We get to know each other. And then I make you an offer. Hook, story, offer. That is the foundation of all marketing, all business. That's why it's now in the DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets and the Traffic Secrets books. It's your job to understand that. Now, in the Traffic Secrets book, it's called hook, story, offer, and the attractive character because it's you. It's your personality. You're the one who's throwing these hooks out. You're the one grabbing people's attention. You're going to have to be engaging. You have to be exciting. You have to be figuring things out. And there's books everywhere on every platform.

Like, any of you guys who follow me on Instagram, you go to my wall. Everyone of those images is a hook. Like yesterday, I did an image of me holding a post-it note that had a scripture from the book of Esther that said, perhaps, I'm going to mess up the quote right now. "But perhaps you were born for times of right now." That was a hook to people's attention. There are all this panic, all this fear, and people are scrolling through feed. And then boom, I'm throwing the thing to say, "Look, the S is scary, but this is your time. It's time to step up and try to stand." I hooked. I was telling you a story. And the offer is just people like it. I think I had like 4,000 likes in the first, I don't know, like five or six hours. So hook, story, offer. It's happening there. It's happening there. It's happening when I'm selling, happening in my videos, happening in my emails, happening in my ads. Everywhere you're publishing, everything you're doing, hook, story, offer is there, over and over and over and over and over again.

Kim said, "Russell, is a hook just an image?" It's not just an image. It can be an image. Yes. But it can be so many other things. A hook is anything that grabs your attention. And so when you're scrolling through your feed, sometimes the thing is like, in fact, this is your assignment. Tonight, when we got off this, whenever you get off this, whatever you're listening to, go to Instagram or Facebook or YouTube, wherever you're excited about. And just start scrolling, just go through the feed and start scrolling. And notice what things grab your attention. And when someone grabs your attention, stop. And then what was it that grabbed the attention? Was it the headline? Was it the image? Was it the crazy person? Was it something? Was it the comments? There's something that grabbed attention. Whatever that was that grabbed attention is the hook. So I'm making my videos. I'm looking for, I set up this location, right here, for a couple reasons. Like, here's a potential hook that might grab some. You see some books. I could put something on the screen, back here. I'm in my funnel hacker shirt. I'm excited. I'm talking.

All these elements are things I'm doing to try to hook people. I don't know what's going hook. Something hooked all of you guys. Some of it's because you know who I am. So that's the hook. Some of it's, you're looking for traffic. That's the hook. Some of you guys just like, "There's this weird guy who's all excited. What is it? what's happening?" The hook is different… your energy is the best hook. So hook is just, it's whatever it is that grabs their attention. So it's all the tools we have in our tool chest. We're trying all of them. We're throwing everything out to get their attention just long enough that they're going to stop from their scrolling. List stop. And then you say, "Okay, cool. Now, I got your attention. Let me tell you a story." I'm telling the story. And again, the goal of the story is to build, to increase the perceived value of the thing that I'm going to sell them next, the offer I'm going to make. And then I make an offer. That's the game. That's it.

What's fun is because now it's like when people have a funnel, like, "My funnels not working, Russ. What do I do?" And it's funny. I have people, we do consulting. And it's, I don't really do it any more because it just, I ran out of time. But last time I did consulting it was a hundred grand for a day, and people coming in like, "My funnel's not working. I want to increase." Literally, what I would do, I would go to the ad and look at that and say, "Okay, this ad is doing all right. How can we make it better? Is there any better hooks we could use? Is there a better story you can tell? What's a better offer?" And we spent some time on that. Then we'd go to the landing page. "Okay, here's your landing page. Cool. It's doing all right. What's a better hook we can do? What's a better story we could tell? What's a better offer?" And then go to sales page, hook, story, offer, hook, story, and that's it. There's no magic trick. You want to see the magician, how he reveals his magic tricks. That literally is it. It's hook, story, offer. If you paid me a hundred grand today, that's all we would do.

What's interesting is at funnel hacking live two years, let's see, not last year but a year before, funnel hacking live, my opening keynote presentation, I talked about hook, story, offer for first time ever. And I remember Stacy Martino was there, and she said, "I went home that night. And I was like, 'Okay, I need some help, but I don't know what to do. If I was to pay Russell, he would just tell me it's hook, story, offer. So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to think what's my hook, my story, offer'." She started looking at her business. She said, "Oh my gosh, my story is amazing. My offer's amazing. I'm not throwing out enough hooks." She says, "I'm going to throw out some more hooks." So she started doing all these things, and she messaged me, I don't know, like two weeks later. She's like, "Russell, thanks for consulting." I'm like, "hat are you talking about?" She's like, "You told me that if I was to hire you, you'd do hook, story, offer. So I just looked through my own business. I said, 'Is it the hook, the story, the offer?' I realized it was hook. I threw out a bunch more hooks. And she said, "We just had the most profitable month of our entire business because of that." I'm like, "Wow, that's amazing." Like now, you know my tricks. Now I'm useless in the equation.

That's what's important for you guys to understand. Your job as marketers is to become good at throwing out hooks that grab someone's attention. Then after you have their attention, tell them a story that builds the perceived value of the offer you're going to make them. And then make them an irresistible offer. When you become good at that, you'll be able to write your own paychecks for the rest your life. So your homework right now is to start going through your feed, newsfeed, Instagram, Facebook, Google, anywhere you're going at and start paying attention to the hooks that are grabbing your attention. And then if the hook grabs your attention, click on it. And then go listen. Listen to what's the story. What's the hook on the landing page? What's the story they're telling you? What's the offer? And you start paying attention. This is what funnel hacking is all about, noticing what's happening and watching it and paying close attention because the way you do this is not going to be magic. It's just you're looking at that, and you're figuring out how do I do the same thing? How do I throw out hooks? How do I tell stories?

Especially right now, like right now, the media is good at this. Why is media pushing so much fear? Because fear is a great hook I'm not a big believer in let's throw fear out there to try to sell products. But that's what the media is doing. They're really good at throwing out hooks. They call it clickbait. The clickbait, they're trying to get hooks out there. It's the same thing, but ethical, that you're trying to do. And so that should help.

So Mateo said, "How do you help us survive in Corona time?" This is how you survive. You need to build a life preserver around your business. The life preserver are customers. Business is all about just getting customers and serving them at the highest level possible. People still have money. There's the false belief like, "Oh no, people don't have money." It's like, no, they still have money. Money hasn't disappeared. It's going to shift a lot of businesses. People are losing jobs and stuff, but it's like, you understand people have money. They're still spending money on things that they need. Like, look at what people are buying now. There's a lot of things people are buying right now. You have to understand that, and you have to protect your company. You have to build a life preserver of customers. And how do you do that? The best way is to get traffic, people, customers to you, which is why I'm going live every single day until further notice about this Traffic Secrets book because that's what I'm talking about.

I know I have an interview. I got to jump off. It's happening in three minutes. So I'm going to bounce, but I want all you guys right now, it's time right now, during this moment of fear and frustration and quarantine and whatever the season we're in right now, this is the time for you to sharpen your saw and become better. I recommend going to trafficsecrets.com, getting copy of the free book. The book doesn't ship until May 5th. But the order form bump, the upsells is the audio book, which is seven hours of me reading the book. You can get it today. It's ready right now. So that's happening. And then, like I said, I'm going live every day during the weekday, going through chapter by chapter. So go pay attention. Go back and watch and start learning these principles. Even while you're waiting for the book, you can start understanding these principles and start becoming better at them. And test some hooks today. Post something on your Instagram wall or your Facebook wall or wherever you post stuff and test a hook out. See if you can get someone's attention. And just practice your hooks because the better you get at hooks, the more people. That's kind of game plan.

So, all right, that's it you guys. It's time. Go get your book at trafficsecrets.com. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out today. You're all amazing. And I hope you guys enjoy your time in quarantine. I know it's scary and stressful times, but we need to be focusing on the positive and focusing on building life preservers around your business, which is traffic. It's customers. It's people. And so let's focus all about how to get, not just customers. If I can get this down here, not just customers, but how to get your dream customers, the right ones, the ones you actually want to serve into your business. And so that's the game plan. All right. Thanks guys. Appreciate you all. And we'll talk to you all tomorrow. All right. Bye everybody.

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]]> 1458 no The Dream 100 FINALLY Explained (...and The Mañana Principle) (TS) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-dream-100-finally-explained-and-the-maana-principle Here is another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. On this episode, Russell will show you how finding your 'Dream 100' can help you attract your dream customers! You'll learn: How Russell gets BIG influencers to spend thousands of dollars promoting his own products. Where to find YOUR 'Dream 100'. How to get 4 FREE videos from FunnelFlix! Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson welcome back to the party. I'm excited to be here with you guys today and we are going live right now on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. I think we're all over the place. So appreciate you guys hanging out with me today and I hope you've enjoyed this Traffic Secrets book launch. It's been going on this whole week. I know a lot of you guys are in quarantine right now, and you are bored out of your mind try to figure out what to do. Some of you guys are stressed out beyond all belief. I get it. Some of you guys are like, "This is dumb. Why are we even worrying?" And I get it as well. So there's a lot of chaos right now in the world. And the only thing we can control is our own mindset and things. We're focusing on things we're putting into our brain. And so I keep choosing to try to put my mind focusing on things I can affect things I can change, which really is this is probably one of, if not the best personal development weeks for all of us in the world, which is exciting. So, all right, really quick. Before I jump into reading some more of the book today, it's interesting. We did our ClickFunnels meeting and today we had the highest, excuse me yesterday. So yesterday we had the highest number of people logging to ClickFunnels ever, it's more than double what happens on a normal day, which means this is literally the season of funnel building. Okay guys, you're at home. You got the chance right now to finally create. There's always this excuse like, "Oh, I can't build a funnel because of this, because of this I'm too busy. I got this. I got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." There's always for some reason, people always have this. We call it the mañana principle like, "Oh, tomorrow mañana tomorrow. I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do it." Okay. What I want to do. I want to suggest something for you guys right now. Okay. I want you to take this mañana principle. Most of us have like, "I'll do the work tomorrow. I'll do the thing tomorrow. I'll do tomorrow," tomorrow, tomorrow. I want you to do this as an exercise it will be really fun. Okay. What you're going to do and is the thing that you need to be doing that you normally put off till mañana. I want you to stop and I want you to do that today. Okay. And then the stressing that you were planning on doing today, stressing out about the coronavirus about food, about toilet paper whatever you're stressing about. I want you to take that stress and I want you to stress about it mañana. We're just shifting. This is an easy shift. Okay. We're taking the stuff right now that we're normally worried about. Okay. And that we're shifting it to mañana and the stuff that we normally are going to do to mañana. The stuff that's actually important about building our life, building our business, building our family. We're going to shift till today. Okay. Is shifting the mañana principle. Okay. If you guys can do that, it's going to be amazing for you. Okay because number one, you're not going to be stressed out because you're going to be stressed like, "I don't have time right now. I'm busy building funnels tomorrow I will worry about the stress." And then today you can get back to work. Okay. And what's cool about that. If you do it today, okay. It's going to be all of Friday all today to be able to work, to be able to create, to be able to read, be able to study, be able to learn every other thing that you've been procrastinating. You really have a chance to finally do it today. Okay. And all the stress that you've been sitting on for the last week, you'll move to tomorrow. You be like, "Worry about it tomorrow." and then ask yourself will you survive today? Is your family going to be okay? You got food for today, sweet worry about tomorrow. Let's get back to work. And then what's going to be cool is tomorrow I'm going to suggest to you the same thing. Move it, till mañana, and get back to work. Okay. So there you go. There's the mañana principle in a way that will actually serve you as opposed to hurting you. But again, we had more than double, as many people log in clickfunnels yesterday than we've ever had. Okay. Which means it's a season right now. It's a season to build funnels. It's a season to build hope season to start preparing and building your foundation because this season is going to pass. Okay. And the people who aren't frozen by fear in the season. Okay. When they come out of it, they're going to have a chance to be able to go and create and do some amazing things. So I want to make sure you guys aren't freezing during the season of fear. Okay, worry about it tomorrow. Mañana right now, get back to work focus on stuff you can control things you can create things you can do because the season will end. And I don't know if it's going to be two weeks from now, two months from now, two years from now, it does not matter. Okay. It's going to end. And the people who have been preparing during the season who have been planting the seeds right now are the ones who reap harvest. So now how to plant seeds. So what that means, two things. Number one, if you haven't got a Traffic Secrets book yet, go and get it. This is the seeds you need to get to the master traffic. Number two, this right here is FunnelFlix. Okay. Now FunnelFlix is an amazing tool. I have licensed, I think there's 2,600 videos on that. Okay. All of the courses I learned from, as I was learning this game, I went to all those people and I was like, "Your courses were the best that I ever went through. Can I license them from you?" And I paid them a small fortune, I think over a million dollars so far in licensing fees because I wanted to be Netflix for entrepreneurs. So we entered the streaming wars. We launched FunnelFlix and it's live. And right now we have a really cool thing for this weekend. It's called the FunnelFlix premier week, where you go to FunnelFlix.com right now and you put your email address in there and you get these four videos. 1, 2, 3, 4, I think each date unlocks one. So you'll get this one immediately. The first one is Frank Kern. If you don't know Frank Kern, he's one of the OGs of internet marketing. We had him speak of funnel hacking live. We didn't tell anybody he was coming. It was top secret. And then in the middle of, we had this whole FunnelFlix presentation. We had him come down and bang on the thing. And it opened up and Frank came out and delivered a message. It was insanely good. And people went nuts. It was like, standing ovation, screaming. It was as close to when a rockstar would feel like in our world, if you can imagine that imagine your biggest rockstar coming out and all the people flip out. That's what happened. And we captured it for you and you can go watch that presentation right now. Well, not right now. Wait til this is over, then watch it this weekend. And then if you like Frank's stuff, I licensed every... No I think almost 13 or 14 Frank's courses almost everything he's ever published is also in FunnelFlix now. So if you are a FunnelFlix member, you can geek out on Frank this weekend and get excited. It's all in there, all his best stuff's in there, which is exciting. So funnelflix.com. So this is trafficsecrets.com. Go get your book, get the audio books, go start listening, getting prepared there. And then over here's funnelflix.com as well. So that's the game plan. All right. You guys ready? Is everything... Is mañana principle in place. You've taken all your stress, your fears. You move it until tomorrow. Worry about it tomorrow. Today, you're focusing on planting seeds for your future. Are you guys cool with that? All right. If you're ready to start planning seeds for future, let's go. So what I'm going to do right now, back to the Traffic Secrets book. This has been so much fun reading this with you guys. So Traffic Secrets book. How many you guys are pumped about getting this book? I know we sold, I don't know, 10,000 the first day. I don't know how many right now, but we're selling tons of these. So I know most CBS have got, if you don't have, for some reason now is the time go to trafficsecrets.com. Okay. So I'm going to repeat. So we've gone through a lot of stuff in the book together. If you've been watching these videos each day, the first day I talked about the preface, preface however you say that all about there's a storm coming. And right now we're literally in the middle of the storm. I wrote this a year and a half ago, this part, and it's crazy that now we're sitting in the eye of the storm. So there you go. I don't know how I could time this any better. So introduction, there's a storm coming we talked about that. Then we talked about, we did two days on secret number one, which was, who is your dream customer? Okay. There's a lot of stuff in this chapter. Things I talked about with you guys figuring out, are your customers trying to move away from pain or towards pleasure, understanding that? And we talked about the difference between the searcher and the scroller and the mindset shift and what they're doing and how we structure things differently based on who they are that was secret number one. Okay. And figured out who is our dream customer. Again, getting to understand them at a deep level. Then secret number two we talked about is now we know who those people are, where are they actually hiding online? Where are they congregating? How can we find them? And we talked about how basically our job then if you look at this picture, here was all about finding where in the world these people are, where are they congregating online? And then from there we got to figure out our hooks, throw in there to grab them and pull them into our funnels, which is cool. All right. And then today we're still in secret number two today, we're moving on to a concept called the dream 100. All right. How many of you guys have heard me talk about dream 100 before I've been preaching this for quite a long time. So hopefully you guys have heard me talk about this more than once someone's asking to turn my camera around. I can't because I'm at home quarantine by myself. So I'm doing this by myself. I can't hold it backwards. I can get my kids come hold it here, but then be like, anyway, be chaos. So, right so again, first step of traffic is knowing who, getting deep understanding who it is you want, who your customers are. Number two, where are they congregating? Where are they hanging out? Right. And then number three is understanding, okay. Who are the people that are already congregating these people. Okay. A lot of times we think that we have to go and create traffic in fact, one of my first mentors, I've had so many great mentors over the years. One of them was a guy named Steven Pierce. And I remember Steven Pierce saying something in an event. He said, "People always think they have to create traffic." He's like, "You don't have to create traffic. Traffic's already there." You just have to figure out where it's at and then you tap into it. And that was one of those big, aha moments for me. Because I was trying to create traffic. Right. And so when I understood that, I was like, "Okay, I'm not going to create traffic. I got to find where they are." And this comes back to, we talked about it yesterday, which is finding these pockets, right. What are the blogs that my dream customers read? What are the Facebook groups? And what are the influencers they follow? What keywords they search for on Google? What blogs they... I think I said, blogs, what podcasts they listen to? I'm trying to figure out where are these pockets of customers? Right. So we got to understand that. And so that's the first step. So then the second step in this process is like, "Well, who's already congregated these people." There's people that have been doing this game for a long time, a lot longer than you, longer than me. Right. And they've already self congregated these people. So I decided to figure out, where are these congregations at? Because if I can figure out where those congregations are at, then I can tap into them. Right? And so that's where we get this concept called the dream 100. Now I learned this originally from a guy named Chet Holmes I had a chance to hang out with Chet, a bunch of times he wrote the book, The Ultimate Sales Machine, which is an amazing book, Chet passed away a few years ago, but someone I've had ton of respect for, actually 10 years ago, Tony Robbins event in Fiji. I was there, me and Chet both spoke and hang out a lot. But in Chet's book, he wrote concept called dream 100. And what the dream 100 is, he talked about, he worked for Charlie Munger, who is… what's his name? Charlie… Warren Buffet's business partner in one of his companies. And Chet was running this magazine. And I guess the time I can't remember, I haven't read all the details in the book, but they were the worst magazine in their industry had almost no advertisers. And they had a database of 2,500 people. And they're trying to message all these people and get to the advertising counsel and he couldn't do it. So Chet came in. He's like, "Hey, this is too hard for us to go off all these people, who are the people in the industry that buy the majority of the ads," we found, it's 30 people, maybe it's a hundred, I don't know. But there's a group of people, small group, right? That buy all the ads in our industry. So he said instead of marketing to all 2,500 or 25,000, or how many people are in there let's just target the ones that have the most amount of money. And so he built up a list and he started doing what he called pigheaded discipline, PHD, where he would start messaging. So every week he'd send them something in the mail. And then two weeks later he'd call them on the phone send something in the mail call them on the phone send something in the mail, call them on the phone, right? The decision makers who could move the needle for him. And he said after six months, I think it was six months, nothing happened. And he was frustrated, but he's got pigheaded discipline. He kept doing it, kept doing it. And within a year within I think seven months he landed his first client. It was Xerox or something crazy, who signed a contract. It was the biggest advertisers they'd ever had. And then next month they just land another one within a year or two years. Again, all the actual details are in here. They landed 30 of their dream, 100. And they went from the worst magazine in the industry to the top. And it was by figuring out who are the people that can drive you the most and creating a marketing campaign directly to them. And it was interesting. And then Chet talked about he wrote a screenplay for a movie and same thing like, "I wrote screenplay. I want it to turn to a movie or something, but I don't know how to do it, I'm not in Hollywood." So he's like... So he bought a, I think it was a time magazine or something that was like Hollywood's top 100 influencers or something. And he was like, "That's my dream, 100." So he took it was directors, producers, writers, whatever. And he took it and he's like, okay, "I'm going to dream 100, these people." So he sent his script to all 100, of these people. Then he called them on the phone and he sent them a gift and they called him. And eventually I think it was LeAnn Rimes called him back, loved the script, got the deal, pitched it to things, sold it to Hollywood. And they ended up making a play out of it, I believe anyway, I don't remember all the details, but that was the dream 100. So I remember reading that in Chet's original book. And then I asked him about it. I'm like, "There's something here, but I don't know what it is." Because I'm selling a book. I can't dream 100 everyone and be like, "Hey, you should buy a copy of my free book." Because it's free@trafficsecrets.com, right? It's not efficient. It would cost me too much. But then I was like, "Wait a minute. There are people on my list or there're people in my world who already have congregated my dream 100." I told you yesterday I got to figure out what are the blogs they're reading? Right. So if I figure out here's the blog, they're reading, there's a 100,000 readers of this blog who are my dream customers, wait, who owns the blog? Who's in charge of that blog? What if I started marketing directly to that person, got to know them and send them gifts and whatever. And if they like it and then they make a blog post about it. I might sell 50 or a hundred or a thousand copies of my book. Right. And I think who are my dream 100, what podcasts they listening to? And they're like, wait, "If someone owns a podcast and my dream customers are listening, what if I market to the person who owns the podcast? What if I got that person to say yes. And also they promoted it to their podcast and I make a thousand sales overnight." Okay. And that was where the concept of the dream 100 was born for us. And so for the last decade of my life is what I've been doing. I've been figuring out who, in fact yesterday, people are like, "Russell, what do you do every day all day?" I spent three hours yesterday on my phone, which is right here. My Instagram folks are watching me live on the device I use. I spent three, almost four hours yesterday contacting my dream 100. That's it, personal messages to all of them. Boom. "Hey, this is Russell." I send a gift. Hey, this is Russell. Hey, this is Russell. Hey, this is Russell. And that's what I did for four hours yesterday, dream 100. But Russell, "I thought you were trying to sell tons of your book, why were you doing Facebook ads?" There's people doing Facebook ads, but I would rather get one person who could spend a hundred thousand dollars… Like Peng Joon right now. You guys probably seen the ads for the book, right? Peng Joon, is spending tons of money right now, buying Facebook ads, promoting my book so I can go and buy more Facebook ads myself. Or I can build a relationship with Peng Joon because of my dream 100. And then he promotes it and he spends a 100,000 own pocket selling the book. That's a much better way to do it. Right. And so for me, this is the phase I'm going, my dream 100. I'm training people to write blog, posts, do podcast interviews and send out emails to the list and all sorts of stuff. Okay. But that's the magical dream 100. So anyway I want you guys to get the book it took me three days to read it, so I can't spend all three days just reading the whole thing, that's why I want you guys to get it. So when you get the book on page 41, this is the little chart I made of the dream 100. It's probably going to be backwards for some of these cameras, but basically I do each platform. So Facebook, Instagram, podcasting, YouTube, excuse me. Email lists, blogging, Google, YouTube, Pinterest. Right. So I put out the categories of each of the different industries here and then going down what I do it's okay. Who on Facebook is already congregated my dream 100? Okay. And so for me, I was like, "Well, okay, Tony Robbins has got 3.2 million fans, Grant Cardone's got, I don't know, 2 million fans. We've got Prince Ea got a billion fans," whatever. And I start making a list of all the people who've already congregated my dream customers. Who are they? Where are they at? Okay. I go to Facebook. I make a list as many as I can find. Okay. And then I might go to Instagram. Who are the influencers, who've already congregated my dream 100. And I go to Instagram. So I, write out their names. Oh, this person, this person, this person start listing out all their names. Then I go to podcasts. Okay. Who are the podcasters who've already congregated my dream 100. I start listing all the names and the podcast people who are the YouTube channels that already congregated my dream 100, who already have a million subscribers. I can go spend the next six years trying to get a million subscribers, or I can go to the person that already got a million subscribers. And if I can do a deal with him or her, have them make a video for me, boom. Now I'm suddenly in front of a million people that fast. Okay. You see how this works. Then who's got the email list in my industry. Who's the bloggers. Okay. And I start making lists of all these different things. And that becomes my dream 100. Okay. And so I'm starting traffic again. Notice this whole book I haven't said a single word about Facebook ads yet. Right? Everyone's like, "On Facebook ads, lets do Google ads." guy comes eventually. That's in section two in the middle, but there's all this foundational stuff. That's so much easier to get traffic. Okay. When Facebook shuts you down, what are you guys going to do? You going to be freaking out? Like, "I don't know what to do." And I'll be like, "I'm just going to call my dream 100. They already have an email list. They already got a blog. They had a podcast. I'll just see if I can go on the podcast." Boom. And we do that with our dream 100. So man, this stuff's so much fun. I could go for years about this. Let me see if I want to talk about anything else today on this or, oh, got to read you guys something. Can I read you a little piece? Are you okay with that? So it's funny how many of you guys know Rachel Hollis? If you don't, okay. Last year her book was the number two selling book in the world. The only one that beat, it was Michelle Obama's book. Okay. She wrote a book called Girl, Wash Your Face. And then Girl, Stop Apologizing this is book number two. And it's funny because I never heard of her. And then I went to this mastermind retreat and I did a list of all the different people. And one of them was a guy named Dave Hollis. Who's Rachel's husband. And I didn't know who he was. And I met him and I messed with my wife that night. I'm like, "Oh, I met this cool guy named Dave Hollis." And she's like, "Dave Hollis is that Rachel's husband." I'm like, "I don't know who's Rachel." And she's like, "Rachel's the biggest thing in the world," anyways so funny. And so had a chance to meet Dave and then got to meet Rachel and really, really cool. But last year we were in Puerto Rico at a mastermind event sitting around the room and everyone's talking about, their things. And it's funny because in this room there's 20 people and half of them are New York Times bestsellers. Half of them got three or four, five New York Times bestselling books. And it's just an intimidating room to be in. Right. And we're all talking and then someone started asking a question about how do they sell books? And everyone's given their two cents, I'm just writing, things a million miles a minute. And then Rachel starts talking and she said something and just boom, drop the mic. So I read to you. She said says recently I was in a mastermind event in Puerto Rico and I had a chance to spend time with Rachel Hollis, the author of the number one New York times bestseller Girl, Wash Your Face at the time she was in the middle of launching her new book. Girl, Stop Apologizing. As I was in the middle of writing this book, I was curious about how she had sold over a million copies of her books. I asked her for the secret to selling that many copies and she told me, "We ask ourselves this question, what are the tribes that my women are already in? What network marketing companies are they in? What Facebook groups, what Instagram channels, what hashtags are they following?" After we identified these things, we tried to figure out who are the tribe owners of these women? Who do we need to become friends with anyone who had over 200,000 followers? We would direct message them, tell them who we were and ask them if we could talk. We started messaging everyone. Our focus was to find the tribes and then figure out the best ways to infiltrate them. And I said the dream 100, she recalled that was exactly what she had done to quickly become one of the bestselling authors of all time, which is crazy. And then I go on again. Quest nutrition, how many of you guys know quest nutrition, quest bars. So Tom Bilyeu is one of the founders of Quest bars. He was also in this mastermind group. And after this I was researching it. How in the world did he build quest to a billion? He sold it for a billion dollars. How did he build that company? I remember watching it explode overnight. And then he cashed out and I found an interview with him on the founder podcast. And it was interesting. He tells the story. He said "We had a very different approach that got a lot of people, excited, not just about the product, but they felt good about the way we treat them. We went old school, researching several hundred health and fitness influencers. Then sending them handwritten letters and free samples. This is all about showing an understanding of what others were trying to achieve. And that quest was interested in helping them connect with their audience. When people are building community, they have a real sense of service to that community. We would send them free product and just say, if you like it, tell your people. And if you hate it, tell them that too." "Not trying to steer people's comments to give us a pretty great recommendation or not trying to steer people's comments gave us a pretty great recommendation. Some didn't like it and said so, but the vast majority loved it and were grateful. We had shown an understanding of who they were and what they were trying to do. So they spread the word." You see what happened? Tom built a billion dollar brand off of what? The dream 100 wasn't Facebook ads. It wasn't Google ads. The dream 100, Rachel Hollis became bestselling author in the world off of what? The dream 100. Okay. That's the concept that in chapter two, you guys understanding who's your dream customer? Where are they congregating? Who is in charge of the congregation? Who's the leader. Who's the person that you can infiltrate? And then you got to get to those people. Right? And it's coming down to building relationships, getting to know them. How can I serve those people? Okay. I did a video on YouTube. In fact, you should all go to YouTube and go to YouTube type in Russell Brunson, Tony Robbins dream 100 and there's a video it's about 10 minutes long of me showing the decade long journey. I did dream 100 Tony Robbins, how I became friends with him, how I became business partners with him, how I got to promote my stuff. It wasn't me just spamming, "Hey promote me Tony." It was me for a year or excuse me a decade serving and building a relationship with him is my dream 100 and getting in and infiltrating that, okay. It's a very powerful, really real strategy. So it's the key though. So that's the next thing you guys is that even if you don't have the book yet, you should get it. It's free. So the only reason why you wouldn't get it is you must hate money or you hate traffic or one of those things, but you cover $10 shipping handle. You can get it, but even if you don't get it for whatever reason, you still know the concept now and understanding that. So what I would recommend doing, see if I can find the page when you get the books on page 41, but you don't need this book to do this. Just go make a graph like this and say, "Okay, who's already congregated my dream customers on Facebook, and start making a list of those names. Who's already congregated my dream. 100 on Instagram, make a list of those names on podcasts, on YouTube, on email, on blogs," and find those people. Those are the existing congregations, right? And when you do that, my goal would be to try to get a hundred people, right? So 10 people, 10 or 20 people on Facebook, 20 people on Instagram, 20 people on podcasts, 20 people get 20 of them 20. All these different platforms have a hundred people. Now there's your dream 100. Now when you have that, that becomes the people you're marketing to those 100 people, right? If I get one of those hundred people, say yes, it can blow up your business. I remember when I did this exercise with the DotCom Secrets book, one of my dream 100 and my podcasting thing was JLD John Lee Dumas, Entrepreneurs on Fire. I never met, excuse me. I never met him yet. Sent him a copy of the book, sent him a dream 100 package, got to know him a little bit, messaged me. He was like, "I love your book. Want to promote it." He had me on podcast. I think the first day he sold like 500 copies of the DotCom Secrets book. Okay. And I came off of one dream 100 package. Right? So if I know, here's a hundred people, these are the people I'm marketing to, I'm serving, I'm getting to know them. I'm building relationships. And I'm going to focus on putting in the time to get to know these people it'll pay off in dividends. Okay. So that's the first step in the traffic secrets process is the dream 100. Getting to understand that when we were launching ClickFunnels, it was interesting because I'm no coder. I don't have any technical ability. So while my business partner, Todd and my business partner at the time, Dylan, while they were coding ClickFunnels, you're wandering Russell, what did you do? You're useless to the equation. I know I can't code. So what did I do? This is what I did. I sat there all night while they're coding and I'm messaging people getting to know them, building relationships. I remember my dream 100, by the time we launched ClickFunnels was dream 328 or something. I don't know how many, but it had grown because I built all these relationships and we launched ClickFunnels and we grew it. And it's crazy now that, ClickFunnels five and a half years ago it started. Today. We have over a 100,000 active customers, 30% of you guys logged in yesterday, which is crazy. So 30,000 plus people logged in yesterday to build a funnel. What's crazy is that the majority of those customers came off of the following of my dream 100 the original dream 100 that I had set up five years ago. And I've been relentlessly getting to know them, building relationships, pursuing them, asking them, promote things, getting them to use ClickFunnels. I've been building free funnels for tons of them. I put in the hard work, the dream 100. And on the back side of that has been a company that does hundreds of millions of dollars a year. So anyway, I hope that helps getting the wheels you had spinning. That's just secret number two, the dream 100. So, all right. We're five or six days in this guys we've gotten through the introduction secret one and secret two has been good so far you learning good stuff. If you like this comment down below, like "That's awesome." If you're like "That was lame Russell, I don't need traffic. I hate traffic," then be like, "That was lame." I don't care. Let me know what other way. The more that you tell me the better, I know how to do these and I can keep doing, if you guys like I'm enjoying it, hopefully you are as well again, here's your call to action for you guys. If you don't have a copy of the book yet we're in pre-order right now, you can get it@trafficsecrets.com. The books actually ship May 5th, but you can download the audio book tonight and listen to this weekend. Binge, listen, and start getting these principles into your brain. The more you understand them the better a lot of you guys ask about box set. This is all three of my books, new updated hardbound versions of DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets and Traffic Secrets, as well as this new work book called Unlock The Secrets as well. The only place to get this out is the upsell. So there you go. When you get a copy of the book, the first order form bump is the audiobook you say yes to that, you'll get the audiobook. And then if you want to get all the updated hardbound versions, that only way to get those is after you buy the book, we make an offer where you can get them all at the discount. So that's the only way to get those. I get them the box ships May 5th, but the audiobooks are there now. So you can start listing at ASAP that's number one. So where do I download if I already bought? If you go back trafficsecret.com is a link there says log in, click on login, and you can log into your members area. It's got all the bonuses, the videos, there's five hours of videos there as well. There's a whole bunch of cool stuff you get when you get the book for free and over here this weekend, it's you guys wonder what to do. Go binge watch stuff on FunnelFlix. We have a premier week for free. You can go and you can watch Frank Kern's presentation today for free each day, unlocks free presentations to get you to fall in love with FunnelFlix. So we're now part of the streaming wars. ClickFunnels is taking on Disney plus and Amazon. And it's all there for you guys as well. One thing I'm going to end with, I talked about this in very beginning, but those who logged in late is a mañana principle. And I want to just re stress this because this can help you guys during this time of crisis. So right now everyone's stressing out, right? Because of all the excuse me, the economic turmoil. And so what I'm going to do is I want you to take that stress and I want you to stress about it mañana tomorrow. So take that and tomorrow I'll worry about today. I'm focusing on planting seeds for my future. Okay? Start planting, seeds, plant seeds of reading book, creating funnels, building stuff, making videos, publishing, whatever your seeds are. Start planting those seeds ASAP. Okay. Because harvest is coming, but if you don't plant, now you're going to be screwed when the harvest comes. So start planting your seeds right now. Okay. And take all the stress of the coronavirus or whatever you're stressing about. Put that tomorrow, mañana, worry about that. And then all this, you leave for tomorrow, which is the planting of the seeds, "Oh, I'll plant tomorrow. I'm going to study tomorrow. I'll build a funnel tomorrow. I'll make a video tomorrow. I'll publish tomorrow." It's time to stop and take that to today, moving that forward and we're going to do it right now. That sound good. That's the game plan you guys. Appreciate you all for hanging out. This has been a fun week so far. Hopefully you're enjoying the time with your family and your loved ones. Make sure to prepare yourself you guys. We don't know what's going to happen, but the best thing you can be possibly doing right now is planting seeds for tomorrow. The harvest will come. If you've not planted during the season of planting, you're going to be in trouble. So now is the time. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for everything. Go your book, trafficsecrets.com, then funnelflix.com. Got have some fun and have a great weekend. Thanks everybody. We'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Dream 100 FINALLY Explained (...and The Mañana Principle) (TS) full 451 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. On this episode, Russell will show you how finding your 'Dream 100' can help you attract your dream customers! You'll learn: How Russell gets BIG influencers to spend... Here is another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. On this episode, Russell will show you how finding your 'Dream 100' can help you attract your dream customers! You'll learn: How Russell gets BIG influencers to spend thousands of dollars promoting his own products. Where to find YOUR 'Dream 100'. How to get 4 FREE videos from FunnelFlix! Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson welcome back to the party. I'm excited to be here with you guys today and we are going live right now on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. I think we're all over the place. So appreciate you guys hanging out with me today and I hope you've enjoyed this Traffic Secrets book launch. It's been going on this whole week. I know a lot of you guys are in quarantine right now, and you are bored out of your mind try to figure out what to do. Some of you guys are stressed out beyond all belief. I get it. Some of you guys are like, "This is dumb. Why are we even worrying?" And I get it as well. So there's a lot of chaos right now in the world. And the only thing we can control is our own mindset and things. We're focusing on things we're putting into our brain. And so I keep choosing to try to put my mind focusing on things I can affect things I can change, which really is this is probably one of, if not the best personal development weeks for all of us in the world, which is exciting. So, all right, really quick. Before I jump into reading some more of the book today, it's interesting. We did our ClickFunnels meeting and today we had the highest, excuse me yesterday. So yesterday we had the highest number of people logging to ClickFunnels ever, it's more than double what happens on a normal day, which means this is literally the season of funnel building. Okay guys, you're at home. You got the chance right now to finally create. There's always this excuse like, "Oh, I can't build a funnel because of this, because of this I'm too busy. I got this. I got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." There's always for some reason, people always have this. We call it the mañana principle like, "Oh, tomorrow mañana tomorrow. I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do it." Okay. What I want to do. I want to suggest something for you guys right now. Okay. I want you to take this mañana principle. Most of us have like, "I'll do the work tomorrow. I'll do the thing tomorrow. I'll do tomorrow," tomorrow, tomorrow. I want you to do this as an exercise it will be really fun. Okay. What you're going to do and is the thing that you need to be doing that you normally put off till mañana. I want you to stop and I want you to do that today. Okay. And then the stressing that you were planning on doing today, stressing out about the coronavirus about food, about toilet paper whatever you're stressing about. I want you to take that stress and I want you to stress about it mañana. We're just shifting. This is an easy shift. Okay. We're taking the stuff right now that we're normally worried about. Okay. And that we're shifting it to mañana and the stuff that we normally are going to do to mañana. The stuff that's actually important about building our life, building our business, building our family. We're going to shift till today. Okay. Is shifting the mañana principle. Okay. If you guys can do that, it's going to be amazing for you. Okay because number one, you're not going to be stressed out because you're going to be stressed like, "I don't have time right now. I'm busy building funnels tomorrow I will worry about the stress." And then today you can get back to work. Okay. And what's cool about that. If you do it today, okay. It's going to be all of Friday all today to be able to work, to be able to create, to be able to read, be able to study, be able to learn every other thing that you've been procrastinating. You really have a chance to finally do it today. Okay. And all the stress that you've been sitting on for the last week, you'll move to tomorrow. You be like, "Worry about it tomorrow." and then ask yourself will you survive today? Is your family going to be okay? You got food for today, sweet worry about tomorrow. Let's get back to work. And then what's going to be cool is tomorrow I'm going to suggest to you the same thing. Move it, till mañana, and get back to work. Okay. So there you go. There's the mañana principle in a way that will actually serve you as opposed to hurting you. But again, we had more than double, as many people log in clickfunnels yesterday than we've ever had. Okay. Which means it's a season right now. It's a season to build funnels. It's a season to build hope season to start preparing and building your foundation because this season is going to pass. Okay. And the people who aren't frozen by fear in the season. Okay. When they come out of it, they're going to have a chance to be able to go and create and do some amazing things. So I want to make sure you guys aren't freezing during the season of fear. Okay, worry about it tomorrow. Mañana right now, get back to work focus on stuff you can control things you can create things you can do because the season will end. And I don't know if it's going to be two weeks from now, two months from now, two years from now, it does not matter. Okay. It's going to end. And the people who have been preparing during the season who have been planting the seeds right now are the ones who reap harvest. So now how to plant seeds. So what that means, two things. Number one, if you haven't got a Traffic Secrets book yet, go and get it. This is the seeds you need to get to the master traffic. Number two, this right here is FunnelFlix. Okay. Now FunnelFlix is an amazing tool. I have licensed, I think there's 2,600 videos on that. Okay. All of the courses I learned from, as I was learning this game, I went to all those people and I was like, "Your courses were the best that I ever went through. Can I license them from you?" And I paid them a small fortune, I think over a million dollars so far in licensing fees because I wanted to be Netflix for entrepreneurs. So we entered the streaming wars. We launched FunnelFlix and it's live. And right now we have a really cool thing for this weekend. It's called the FunnelFlix premier week, where you go to FunnelFlix.com right now and you put your email address in there and you get these four videos. 1, 2, 3, 4, I think each date unlocks one. So you'll get this one immediately. The first one is Frank Kern. If you don't know Frank Kern, he's one of the OGs of internet marketing. We had him speak of funnel hacking live. We didn't tell anybody he was coming. It was top secret. And then in the middle of, we had this whole FunnelFlix presentation. We had him come down and bang on the thing. And it opened up and Frank came out and delivered a message. It was insanely good. And people went nuts. It was like, standing ovation, screaming. It was as close to when a rockstar would feel like in our world, if you can imagine that imagine your biggest rockstar coming out and all the people flip out. That's what happened. And we captured it for you and you can go watch that presentation right now. Well, not right now. Wait til this is over, then watch it this weekend. And then if you like Frank's stuff, I licensed every... No I think almost 13 or 14 Frank's courses almost everything he's ever published is also in FunnelFlix now. So if you are a FunnelFlix member, you can geek out on Frank this weekend and get excited. It's all in there, all his best stuff's in there, which is exciting. So funnelflix.com. So this is trafficsecrets.com. Go get your book, get the audio books, go start listening, getting prepared there. And then over here's funnelflix.com as well. So that's the game plan. All right. You guys ready? Is everything... Is mañana principle in place. You've taken all your stress, your fears. You move it until tomorrow. Worry about it tomorrow. Today, you're focusing on planting seeds for your future. Are you guys cool with that? All right. If you're ready to start planning seeds for future, let's go. So what I'm going to do right now, back to the Traffic Secrets book. This has been so much fun reading this with you guys. So Traffic Secrets book. How many you guys are pumped about getting this book? I know we sold, I don't know, 10,000 the first day. I don't know how many right now, but we're selling tons of these. So I know most CBS have got, if you don't have, for some reason now is the time go to trafficsecrets.com. Okay. So I'm going to repeat. So we've gone through a lot of stuff in the book together. If you've been watching these videos each day, the first day I talked about the preface, preface however you say that all about there's a storm coming. And right now we're literally in the middle of the storm. I wrote this a year and a half ago, this part, and it's crazy that now we're sitting in the eye of the storm. So there you go. I don't know how I could time this any better. So introduction, there's a storm coming we talked about that. Then we talked about, we did two days on secret number one, which was, who is your dream customer? Okay. There's a lot of stuff in this chapter. Things I talked about with you guys figuring out, are your customers trying to move away from pain or towards pleasure, understanding that? And we talked about the difference between the searcher and the scroller and the mindset shift and what they're doing and how we structure things differently based on who they are that was secret number one. Okay. And figured out who is our dream customer. Again, getting to understand them at a deep level. Then secret number two we talked about is now we know who those people are, where are they actually hiding online? Where are they congregating? How can we find them? And we talked about how basically our job then if you look at this picture, here was all about finding where in the world these people are, where are they congregating online? And then from there we got to figure out our hooks, throw in there to grab them and pull them into our funnels, which is cool. All right. And then today we're still in secret number two today, we're moving on to a concept called the dream 100. All right. How many of you guys have heard me talk about dream 100 before I've been preaching this for quite a long time. So hopefully you guys have heard me talk about this more than once someone's asking to turn my camera around. I can't because I'm at home quarantine by myself. So I'm doing this by myself. I can't hold it backwards. I can get my kids come hold it here, but then be like, anyway, be chaos. So, right so again, first step of traffic is knowing who, getting deep understanding who it is you want, who your customers are. Number two, where are they congregating? Where are they hanging out? Right. And then number three is understanding, okay. Who are the people that are already congregating these people. Okay. A lot of times we think that we have to go and create traffic in fact, one of my first mentors, I've had so many great mentors over the years. One of them was a guy named Steven Pierce. And I remember Steven Pierce saying something in an event. He said, "People always think they have to create traffic." He's like, "You don't have to create traffic. Traffic's already there." You just have to figure out where it's at and then you tap into it. And that was one of those big, aha moments for me. Because I was trying to create traffic. Right. And so when I understood that, I was like, "Okay, I'm not going to create traffic. I got to find where they are." And this comes back to, we talked about it yesterday, which is finding these pockets, right. What are the blogs that my dream customers read? What are the Facebook groups? And what are the influencers they follow? What keywords they search for on Google? What blogs they... I think I said, blogs, what podcasts they listen to? I'm trying to figure out where are these pockets of customers? Right. So we got to understand that. And so that's the first step. So then the second step in this process is like, "Well, who's already congregated these people." There's people that have been doing this game for a long time, a lot longer than you, longer than me. Right. And they've already self congregated these people. So I decided to figure out, where are these congregations at? Because if I can figure out where those congregations are at, then I can tap into them. Right? And so that's where we get this concept called the dream 100. Now I learned this originally from a guy named Chet Holmes I had a chance to hang out with Chet, a bunch of times he wrote the book, The Ultimate Sales Machine, which is an amazing book, Chet passed away a few years ago, but someone I've had ton of respect for, actually 10 years ago, Tony Robbins event in Fiji. I was there, me and Chet both spoke and hang out a lot. But in Chet's book, he wrote concept called dream 100. And what the dream 100 is, he talked about, he worked for Charlie Munger, who is… what's his name? Charlie… Warren Buffet's business partner in one of his companies. And Chet was running this magazine. And I guess the time I can't remember, I haven't read all the details in the book, but they were the worst magazine in their industry had almost no advertisers. And they had a database of 2,500 people. And they're trying to message all these people and get to the advertising counsel and he couldn't do it. So Chet came in. He's like, "Hey, this is too hard for us to go off all these people, who are the people in the industry that buy the majority of the ads," we found, it's 30 people, maybe it's a hundred, I don't know. But there's a group of people, small group, right? That buy all the ads in our industry. So he said instead of marketing to all 2,500 or 25,000, or how many people are in there let's just target the ones that have the most amount of money. And so he built up a list and he started doing what he called pigheaded discipline, PHD, where he would start messaging. So every week he'd send them something in the mail. And then two weeks later he'd call them on the phone send something in the mail call them on the phone send something in the mail, call them on the phone, right? The decision makers who could move the needle for him. And he said after six months, I think it was six months, nothing happened. And he was frustrated, but he's got pigheaded discipline. He kept doing it, kept doing it. And within a year within I think seven months he landed his first client. It was Xerox or something crazy, who signed a contract. It was the biggest advertisers they'd ever had. And then next month they just land another one within a year or two years. Again, all the actual details are in here. They landed 30 of their dream, 100. And they went from the worst magazine in the industry to the top. And it was by figuring out who are the people that can drive you the most and creating a marketing campaign directly to them. And it was interesting. And then Chet talked about he wrote a screenplay for a movie and same thing like, "I wrote screenplay. I want it to turn to a movie or something, but I don't know how to do it, I'm not in Hollywood." So he's like... So he bought a, I think it was a time magazine or something that was like Hollywood's top 100 influencers or something. And he was like, "That's my dream, 100." So he took it was directors, producers, writers, whatever. And he took it and he's like, okay, "I'm going to dream 100, these people." So he sent his script to all 100, of these people. Then he called them on the phone and he sent them a gift and they called him. And eventually I think it was LeAnn Rimes called him back, loved the script, got the deal, pitched it to things, sold it to Hollywood. And they ended up making a play out of it, I believe anyway, I don't remember all the details, but that was the dream 100. So I remember reading that in Chet's original book. And then I asked him about it. I'm like, "There's something here, but I don't know what it is." Because I'm selling a book. I can't dream 100 everyone and be like, "Hey, you should buy a copy of my free book." Because it's free@trafficsecrets.com, right? It's not efficient. It would cost me too much. But then I was like, "Wait a minute. There are people on my list or there're people in my world who already have congregated my dream 100." I told you yesterday I got to figure out what are the blogs they're reading? Right. So if I figure out here's the blog, they're reading, there's a 100,000 readers of this blog who are my dream customers, wait, who owns the blog? Who's in charge of that blog? What if I started marketing directly to that person, got to know them and send them gifts and whatever. And if they like it and then they make a blog post about it. I might sell 50 or a hundred or a thousand copies of my book. Right. And I think who are my dream 100, what podcasts they listening to? And they're like, wait, "If someone owns a podcast and my dream customers are listening, what if I market to the person who owns the podcast? What if I got that person to say yes. And also they promoted it to their podcast and I make a thousand sales overnight." Okay. And that was where the concept of the dream 100 was born for us. And so for the last decade of my life is what I've been doing. I've been figuring out who, in fact yesterday, people are like, "Russell, what do you do every day all day?" I spent three hours yesterday on my phone, which is right here. My Instagram folks are watching me live on the device I use. I spent three, almost four hours yesterday contacting my dream 100. That's it, personal messages to all of them. Boom. "Hey, this is Russell." I send a gift. Hey, this is Russell. Hey, this is Russell. Hey, this is Russell. And that's what I did for four hours yesterday, dream 100. But Russell, "I thought you were trying to sell tons of your book, why were you doing Facebook ads?" There's people doing Facebook ads, but I would rather get one person who could spend a hundred thousand dollars… Like Peng Joon right now. You guys probably seen the ads for the book, right? Peng Joon, is spending tons of money right now, buying Facebook ads, promoting my book so I can go and buy more Facebook ads myself. Or I can build a relationship with Peng Joon because of my dream 100. And then he promotes it and he spends a 100,000 own pocket selling the book. That's a much better way to do it. Right. And so for me, this is the phase I'm going, my dream 100. I'm training people to write blog, posts, do podcast interviews and send out emails to the list and all sorts of stuff. Okay. But that's the magical dream 100. So anyway I want you guys to get the book it took me three days to read it, so I can't spend all three days just reading the whole thing, that's why I want you guys to get it. So when you get the book on page 41, this is the little chart I made of the dream 100. It's probably going to be backwards for some of these cameras, but basically I do each platform. So Facebook, Instagram, podcasting, YouTube, excuse me. Email lists, blogging, Google, YouTube, Pinterest. Right. So I put out the categories of each of the different industries here and then going down what I do it's okay. Who on Facebook is already congregated my dream 100? Okay. And so for me, I was like, "Well, okay, Tony Robbins has got 3.2 million fans, Grant Cardone's got, I don't know, 2 million fans. We've got Prince Ea got a billion fans," whatever. And I start making a list of all the people who've already congregated my dream customers. Who are they? Where are they at? Okay. I go to Facebook. I make a list as many as I can find. Okay. And then I might go to Instagram. Who are the influencers, who've already congregated my dream 100. And I go to Instagram. So I, write out their names. Oh, this person, this person, this person start listing out all their names. Then I go to podcasts. Okay. Who are the podcasters who've already congregated my dream 100. I start listing all the names and the podcast people who are the YouTube channels that already congregated my dream 100, who already have a million subscribers. I can go spend the next six years trying to get a million subscribers, or I can go to the person that already got a million subscribers. And if I can do a deal with him or her, have them make a video for me, boom. Now I'm suddenly in front of a million people that fast. Okay. You see how this works. Then who's got the email list in my industry. Who's the bloggers. Okay. And I start making lists of all these different things. And that becomes my dream 100. Okay. And so I'm starting traffic again. Notice this whole book I haven't said a single word about Facebook ads yet. Right? Everyone's like, "On Facebook ads, lets do Google ads." guy comes eventually. That's in section two in the middle, but there's all this foundational stuff. That's so much easier to get traffic. Okay. When Facebook shuts you down, what are you guys going to do? You going to be freaking out? Like, "I don't know what to do." And I'll be like, "I'm just going to call my dream 100. They already have an email list. They already got a blog. They had a podcast. I'll just see if I can go on the podcast." Boom. And we do that with our dream 100. So man, this stuff's so much fun. I could go for years about this. Let me see if I want to talk about anything else today on this or, oh, got to read you guys something. Can I read you a little piece? Are you okay with that? So it's funny how many of you guys know Rachel Hollis? If you don't, okay. Last year her book was the number two selling book in the world. The only one that beat, it was Michelle Obama's book. Okay. She wrote a book called Girl, Wash Your Face. And then Girl, Stop Apologizing this is book number two. And it's funny because I never heard of her. And then I went to this mastermind retreat and I did a list of all the different people. And one of them was a guy named Dave Hollis. Who's Rachel's husband. And I didn't know who he was. And I met him and I messed with my wife that night. I'm like, "Oh, I met this cool guy named Dave Hollis." And she's like, "Dave Hollis is that Rachel's husband." I'm like, "I don't know who's Rachel." And she's like, "Rachel's the biggest thing in the world," anyways so funny. And so had a chance to meet Dave and then got to meet Rachel and really, really cool. But last year we were in Puerto Rico at a mastermind event sitting around the room and everyone's talking about, their things. And it's funny because in this room there's 20 people and half of them are New York Times bestsellers. Half of them got three or four, five New York Times bestselling books. And it's just an intimidating room to be in. Right. And we're all talking and then someone started asking a question about how do they sell books? And everyone's given their two cents, I'm just writing, things a million miles a minute. And then Rachel starts talking and she said something and just boom, drop the mic. So I read to you. She said says recently I was in a mastermind event in Puerto Rico and I had a chance to spend time with Rachel Hollis, the author of the number one New York times bestseller Girl, Wash Your Face at the time she was in the middle of launching her new book. Girl, Stop Apologizing. As I was in the middle of writing this book, I was curious about how she had sold over a million copies of her books. I asked her for the secret to selling that many copies and she told me, "We ask ourselves this question, what are the tribes that my women are already in? What network marketing companies are they in? What Facebook groups, what Instagram channels, what hashtags are they following?" After we identified these things, we tried to figure out who are the tribe owners of these women? Who do we need to become friends with anyone who had over 200,000 followers? We would direct message them, tell them who we were and ask them if we could talk. We started messaging everyone. Our focus was to find the tribes and then figure out the best ways to infiltrate them. And I said the dream 100, she recalled that was exactly what she had done to quickly become one of the bestselling authors of all time, which is crazy. And then I go on again. Quest nutrition, how many of you guys know quest nutrition, quest bars. So Tom Bilyeu is one of the founders of Quest bars. He was also in this mastermind group. And after this I was researching it. How in the world did he build quest to a billion? He sold it for a billion dollars. How did he build that company? I remember watching it explode overnight. And then he cashed out and I found an interview with him on the founder podcast. And it was interesting. He tells the story. He said "We had a very different approach that got a lot of people, excited, not just about the product, but they felt good about the way we treat them. We went old school, researching several hundred health and fitness influencers. Then sending them handwritten letters and free samples. This is all about showing an understanding of what others were trying to achieve. And that quest was interested in helping them connect with their audience. When people are building community, they have a real sense of service to that community. We would send them free product and just say, if you like it, tell your people. And if you hate it, tell them that too." "Not trying to steer people's comments to give us a pretty great recommendation or not trying to steer people's comments gave us a pretty great recommendation. Some didn't like it and said so, but the vast majority loved it and were grateful. We had shown an understanding of who they were and what they were trying to do. So they spread the word." You see what happened? Tom built a billion dollar brand off of what? The dream 100 wasn't Facebook ads. It wasn't Google ads. The dream 100, Rachel Hollis became bestselling author in the world off of what? The dream 100. Okay. That's the concept that in chapter two, you guys understanding who's your dream customer? Where are they congregating? Who is in charge of the congregation? Who's the leader. Who's the person that you can infiltrate? And then you got to get to those people. Right? And it's coming down to building relationships, getting to know them. How can I serve those people? Okay. I did a video on YouTube. In fact, you should all go to YouTube and go to YouTube type in Russell Brunson, Tony Robbins dream 100 and there's a video it's about 10 minutes long of me showing the decade long journey. I did dream 100 Tony Robbins, how I became friends with him, how I became business partners with him, how I got to promote my stuff. It wasn't me just spamming, "Hey promote me Tony." It was me for a year or excuse me a decade serving and building a relationship with him is my dream 100 and getting in and infiltrating that, okay. It's a very powerful, really real strategy. So it's the key though. So that's the next thing you guys is that even if you don't have the book yet, you should get it. It's free. So the only reason why you wouldn't get it is you must hate money or you hate traffic or one of those things, but you cover $10 shipping handle. You can get it, but even if you don't get it for whatever reason, you still know the concept now and understanding that. So what I would recommend doing, see if I can find the page when you get the books on page 41, but you don't need this book to do this. Just go make a graph like this and say, "Okay, who's already congregated my dream customers on Facebook, and start making a list of those names. Who's already congregated my dream. 100 on Instagram, make a list of those names on podcasts, on YouTube, on email, on blogs," and find those people. Those are the existing congregations, right? And when you do that, my goal would be to try to get a hundred people, right? So 10 people, 10 or 20 people on Facebook, 20 people on Instagram, 20 people on podcasts, 20 people get 20 of them 20. All these different platforms have a hundred people. Now there's your dream 100. Now when you have that, that becomes the people you're marketing to those 100 people, right? If I get one of those hundred people, say yes, it can blow up your business. I remember when I did this exercise with the DotCom Secrets book, one of my dream 100 and my podcasting thing was JLD John Lee Dumas, Entrepreneurs on Fire. I never met, excuse me. I never met him yet. Sent him a copy of the book, sent him a dream 100 package, got to know him a little bit, messaged me. He was like, "I love your book. Want to promote it." He had me on podcast. I think the first day he sold like 500 copies of the DotCom Secrets book. Okay. And I came off of one dream 100 package. Right? So if I know, here's a hundred people, these are the people I'm marketing to, I'm serving, I'm getting to know them. I'm building relationships. And I'm going to focus on putting in the time to get to know these people it'll pay off in dividends. Okay. So that's the first step in the traffic secrets process is the dream 100. Getting to understand that when we were launching ClickFunnels, it was interesting because I'm no coder. I don't have any technical ability. So while my business partner, Todd and my business partner at the time, Dylan, while they were coding ClickFunnels, you're wandering Russell, what did you do? You're useless to the equation. I know I can't code. So what did I do? This is what I did. I sat there all night while they're coding and I'm messaging people getting to know them, building relationships. I remember my dream 100, by the time we launched ClickFunnels was dream 328 or something. I don't know how many, but it had grown because I built all these relationships and we launched ClickFunnels and we grew it. And it's crazy now that, ClickFunnels five and a half years ago it started. Today. We have over a 100,000 active customers, 30% of you guys logged in yesterday, which is crazy. So 30,000 plus people logged in yesterday to build a funnel. What's crazy is that the majority of those customers came off of the following of my dream 100 the original dream 100 that I had set up five years ago. And I've been relentlessly getting to know them, building relationships, pursuing them, asking them, promote things, getting them to use ClickFunnels. I've been building free funnels for tons of them. I put in the hard work, the dream 100. And on the back side of that has been a company that does hundreds of millions of dollars a year. So anyway, I hope that helps getting the wheels you had spinning. That's just secret number two, the dream 100. So, all right. We're five or six days in this guys we've gotten through the introduction secret one and secret two has been good so far you learning good stuff. If you like this comment down below, like "That's awesome." If you're like "That was lame Russell, I don't need traffic. I hate traffic," then be like, "That was lame." I don't care. Let me know what other way. The more that you tell me the better, I know how to do these and I can keep doing, if you guys like I'm enjoying it, hopefully you are as well again, here's your call to action for you guys. If you don't have a copy of the book yet we're in pre-order right now, you can get it@trafficsecrets.com. The books actually ship May 5th, but you can download the audio book tonight and listen to this weekend. Binge, listen, and start getting these principles into your brain. The more you understand them the better a lot of you guys ask about box set. This is all three of my books, new updated hardbound versions of DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets and Traffic Secrets, as well as this new work book called Unlock The Secrets as well. The only place to get this out is the upsell. So there you go. When you get a copy of the book, the first order form bump is the audiobook you say yes to that, you'll get the audiobook. And then if you want to get all the updated hardbound versions, that only way to get those is after you buy the book, we make an offer where you can get them all at the discount. So that's the only way to get those. I get them the box ships May 5th, but the audiobooks are there now. So you can start listing at ASAP that's number one. So where do I download if I already bought? If you go back trafficsecret.com is a link there says log in, click on login, and you can log into your members area. It's got all the bonuses, the videos, there's five hours of videos there as well. There's a whole bunch of cool stuff you get when you get the book for free and over here this weekend, it's you guys wonder what to do. Go binge watch stuff on FunnelFlix. We have a premier week for free. You can go and you can watch Frank Kern's presentation today for free each day, unlocks free presentations to get you to fall in love with FunnelFlix. So we're now part of the streaming wars. ClickFunnels is taking on Disney plus and Amazon. And it's all there for you guys as well. One thing I'm going to end with, I talked about this in very beginning, but those who logged in late is a mañana principle. And I want to just re stress this because this can help you guys during this time of crisis. So right now everyone's stressing out, right? Because of all the excuse me, the economic turmoil. And so what I'm going to do is I want you to take that stress and I want you to stress about it mañana tomorrow. So take that and tomorrow I'll worry about today. I'm focusing on planting seeds for my future. Okay? Start planting, seeds, plant seeds of reading book, creating funnels, building stuff, making videos, publishing, whatever your seeds are. Start planting those seeds ASAP. Okay. Because harvest is coming, but if you don't plant, now you're going to be screwed when the harvest comes. So start planting your seeds right now. Okay. And take all the stress of the coronavirus or whatever you're stressing about. Put that tomorrow, mañana, worry about that. And then all this, you leave for tomorrow, which is the planting of the seeds, "Oh, I'll plant tomorrow. I'm going to study tomorrow. I'll build a funnel tomorrow. I'll make a video tomorrow. I'll publish tomorrow." It's time to stop and take that to today, moving that forward and we're going to do it right now. That sound good. That's the game plan you guys. Appreciate you all for hanging out. This has been a fun week so far. Hopefully you're enjoying the time with your family and your loved ones. Make sure to prepare yourself you guys. We don't know what's going to happen, but the best thing you can be possibly doing right now is planting seeds for tomorrow. The harvest will come. If you've not planted during the season of planting, you're going to be in trouble. So now is the time. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for everything. Go your book, trafficsecrets.com, then funnelflix.com. Got have some fun and have a great weekend. Thanks everybody. We'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast.

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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson welcome back to the party. I'm excited to be here with you guys today and we are going live right now on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. I think we're all over the place. So appreciate you guys hanging out with me today and I hope you've enjoyed this Traffic Secrets book launch. It's been going on this whole week. I know a lot of you guys are in quarantine right now, and you are bored out of your mind try to figure out what to do. Some of you guys are stressed out beyond all belief. I get it. Some of you guys are like, "This is dumb. Why are we even worrying?" And I get it as well. So there's a lot of chaos right now in the world. And the only thing we can control is our own mindset and things. We're focusing on things we're putting into our brain.

And so I keep choosing to try to put my mind focusing on things I can affect things I can change, which really is this is probably one of, if not the best personal development weeks for all of us in the world, which is exciting. So, all right, really quick. Before I jump into reading some more of the book today, it's interesting. We did our ClickFunnels meeting and today we had the highest, excuse me yesterday. So yesterday we had the highest number of people logging to ClickFunnels ever, it's more than double what happens on a normal day, which means this is literally the season of funnel building. Okay guys, you're at home. You got the chance right now to finally create. There's always this excuse like, "Oh, I can't build a funnel because of this, because of this I'm too busy. I got this. I got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah."

There's always for some reason, people always have this. We call it the mañana principle like, "Oh, tomorrow mañana tomorrow. I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do it." Okay. What I want to do. I want to suggest something for you guys right now. Okay. I want you to take this mañana principle. Most of us have like, "I'll do the work tomorrow. I'll do the thing tomorrow. I'll do tomorrow," tomorrow, tomorrow. I want you to do this as an exercise it will be really fun. Okay. What you're going to do and is the thing that you need to be doing that you normally put off till mañana. I want you to stop and I want you to do that today. Okay. And then the stressing that you were planning on doing today, stressing out about the coronavirus about food, about toilet paper whatever you're stressing about.

I want you to take that stress and I want you to stress about it mañana. We're just shifting. This is an easy shift. Okay. We're taking the stuff right now that we're normally worried about. Okay. And that we're shifting it to mañana and the stuff that we normally are going to do to mañana. The stuff that's actually important about building our life, building our business, building our family. We're going to shift till today. Okay. Is shifting the mañana principle. Okay. If you guys can do that, it's going to be amazing for you. Okay because number one, you're not going to be stressed out because you're going to be stressed like, "I don't have time right now. I'm busy building funnels tomorrow I will worry about the stress." And then today you can get back to work. Okay. And what's cool about that.

If you do it today, okay. It's going to be all of Friday all today to be able to work, to be able to create, to be able to read, be able to study, be able to learn every other thing that you've been procrastinating. You really have a chance to finally do it today. Okay. And all the stress that you've been sitting on for the last week, you'll move to tomorrow. You be like, "Worry about it tomorrow." and then ask yourself will you survive today? Is your family going to be okay? You got food for today, sweet worry about tomorrow. Let's get back to work. And then what's going to be cool is tomorrow I'm going to suggest to you the same thing. Move it, till mañana, and get back to work. Okay. So there you go. There's the mañana principle in a way that will actually serve you as opposed to hurting you.

But again, we had more than double, as many people log in clickfunnels yesterday than we've ever had. Okay. Which means it's a season right now. It's a season to build funnels. It's a season to build hope season to start preparing and building your foundation because this season is going to pass. Okay. And the people who aren't frozen by fear in the season. Okay. When they come out of it, they're going to have a chance to be able to go and create and do some amazing things. So I want to make sure you guys aren't freezing during the season of fear. Okay, worry about it tomorrow. Mañana right now, get back to work focus on stuff you can control things you can create things you can do because the season will end. And I don't know if it's going to be two weeks from now, two months from now, two years from now, it does not matter.

Okay. It's going to end. And the people who have been preparing during the season who have been planting the seeds right now are the ones who reap harvest. So now how to plant seeds. So what that means, two things. Number one, if you haven't got a Traffic Secrets book yet, go and get it. This is the seeds you need to get to the master traffic. Number two, this right here is FunnelFlix. Okay. Now FunnelFlix is an amazing tool. I have licensed, I think there's 2,600 videos on that. Okay. All of the courses I learned from, as I was learning this game, I went to all those people and I was like, "Your courses were the best that I ever went through. Can I license them from you?" And I paid them a small fortune, I think over a million dollars so far in licensing fees because I wanted to be Netflix for entrepreneurs.

So we entered the streaming wars. We launched FunnelFlix and it's live. And right now we have a really cool thing for this weekend. It's called the FunnelFlix premier week, where you go to FunnelFlix.com right now and you put your email address in there and you get these four videos. 1, 2, 3, 4, I think each date unlocks one. So you'll get this one immediately. The first one is Frank Kern. If you don't know Frank Kern, he's one of the OGs of internet marketing. We had him speak of funnel hacking live. We didn't tell anybody he was coming. It was top secret. And then in the middle of, we had this whole FunnelFlix presentation. We had him come down and bang on the thing. And it opened up and Frank came out and delivered a message. It was insanely good. And people went nuts.

It was like, standing ovation, screaming. It was as close to when a rockstar would feel like in our world, if you can imagine that imagine your biggest rockstar coming out and all the people flip out. That's what happened. And we captured it for you and you can go watch that presentation right now. Well, not right now. Wait til this is over, then watch it this weekend. And then if you like Frank's stuff, I licensed every... No I think almost 13 or 14 Frank's courses almost everything he's ever published is also in FunnelFlix now. So if you are a FunnelFlix member, you can geek out on Frank this weekend and get excited. It's all in there, all his best stuff's in there, which is exciting. So funnelflix.com. So this is trafficsecrets.com. Go get your book, get the audio books, go start listening, getting prepared there.

And then over here's funnelflix.com as well. So that's the game plan. All right. You guys ready? Is everything... Is mañana principle in place. You've taken all your stress, your fears. You move it until tomorrow. Worry about it tomorrow. Today, you're focusing on planting seeds for your future. Are you guys cool with that? All right. If you're ready to start planning seeds for future, let's go. So what I'm going to do right now, back to the Traffic Secrets book. This has been so much fun reading this with you guys. So Traffic Secrets book. How many you guys are pumped about getting this book? I know we sold, I don't know, 10,000 the first day. I don't know how many right now, but we're selling tons of these. So I know most CBS have got, if you don't have, for some reason now is the time go to trafficsecrets.com.

Okay. So I'm going to repeat. So we've gone through a lot of stuff in the book together. If you've been watching these videos each day, the first day I talked about the preface, preface however you say that all about there's a storm coming. And right now we're literally in the middle of the storm. I wrote this a year and a half ago, this part, and it's crazy that now we're sitting in the eye of the storm. So there you go. I don't know how I could time this any better. So introduction, there's a storm coming we talked about that. Then we talked about, we did two days on secret number one, which was, who is your dream customer? Okay. There's a lot of stuff in this chapter. Things I talked about with you guys figuring out, are your customers trying to move away from pain or towards pleasure, understanding that?

And we talked about the difference between the searcher and the scroller and the mindset shift and what they're doing and how we structure things differently based on who they are that was secret number one. Okay. And figured out who is our dream customer. Again, getting to understand them at a deep level. Then secret number two we talked about is now we know who those people are, where are they actually hiding online? Where are they congregating? How can we find them? And we talked about how basically our job then if you look at this picture, here was all about finding where in the world these people are, where are they congregating online? And then from there we got to figure out our hooks, throw in there to grab them and pull them into our funnels, which is cool.

All right. And then today we're still in secret number two today, we're moving on to a concept called the dream 100. All right. How many of you guys have heard me talk about dream 100 before I've been preaching this for quite a long time. So hopefully you guys have heard me talk about this more than once someone's asking to turn my camera around. I can't because I'm at home quarantine by myself. So I'm doing this by myself. I can't hold it backwards. I can get my kids come hold it here, but then be like, anyway, be chaos. So, right so again, first step of traffic is knowing who, getting deep understanding who it is you want, who your customers are.

Number two, where are they congregating? Where are they hanging out? Right. And then number three is understanding, okay. Who are the people that are already congregating these people. Okay. A lot of times we think that we have to go and create traffic in fact, one of my first mentors, I've had so many great mentors over the years. One of them was a guy named Steven Pierce. And I remember Steven Pierce saying something in an event. He said, "People always think they have to create traffic." He's like, "You don't have to create traffic. Traffic's already there." You just have to figure out where it's at and then you tap into it. And that was one of those big, aha moments for me.

Because I was trying to create traffic. Right. And so when I understood that, I was like, "Okay, I'm not going to create traffic. I got to find where they are." And this comes back to, we talked about it yesterday, which is finding these pockets, right. What are the blogs that my dream customers read? What are the Facebook groups? And what are the influencers they follow? What keywords they search for on Google? What blogs they... I think I said, blogs, what podcasts they listen to? I'm trying to figure out where are these pockets of customers? Right. So we got to understand that. And so that's the first step. So then the second step in this process is like, "Well, who's already congregated these people." There's people that have been doing this game for a long time, a lot longer than you, longer than me. Right.

And they've already self congregated these people. So I decided to figure out, where are these congregations at? Because if I can figure out where those congregations are at, then I can tap into them. Right? And so that's where we get this concept called the dream 100. Now I learned this originally from a guy named Chet Holmes I had a chance to hang out with Chet, a bunch of times he wrote the book, The Ultimate Sales Machine, which is an amazing book, Chet passed away a few years ago, but someone I've had ton of respect for, actually 10 years ago, Tony Robbins event in Fiji. I was there, me and Chet both spoke and hang out a lot. But in Chet's book, he wrote concept called dream 100. And what the dream 100 is, he talked about, he worked for Charlie Munger, who is… what's his name? Charlie… Warren Buffet's business partner in one of his companies. And Chet was running this magazine. And I guess the time I can't remember, I haven't read all the details in the book, but they were the worst magazine in their industry had almost no advertisers. And they had a database of 2,500 people. And they're trying to message all these people and get to the advertising counsel and he couldn't do it. So Chet came in. He's like, "Hey, this is too hard for us to go off all these people, who are the people in the industry that buy the majority of the ads," we found, it's 30 people, maybe it's a hundred, I don't know. But there's a group of people, small group, right? That buy all the ads in our industry.

So he said instead of marketing to all 2,500 or 25,000, or how many people are in there let's just target the ones that have the most amount of money. And so he built up a list and he started doing what he called pigheaded discipline, PHD, where he would start messaging. So every week he'd send them something in the mail. And then two weeks later he'd call them on the phone send something in the mail call them on the phone send something in the mail, call them on the phone, right? The decision makers who could move the needle for him. And he said after six months, I think it was six months, nothing happened. And he was frustrated, but he's got pigheaded discipline. He kept doing it, kept doing it. And within a year within I think seven months he landed his first client.

It was Xerox or something crazy, who signed a contract. It was the biggest advertisers they'd ever had. And then next month they just land another one within a year or two years. Again, all the actual details are in here. They landed 30 of their dream, 100. And they went from the worst magazine in the industry to the top. And it was by figuring out who are the people that can drive you the most and creating a marketing campaign directly to them. And it was interesting. And then Chet talked about he wrote a screenplay for a movie and same thing like, "I wrote screenplay. I want it to turn to a movie or something, but I don't know how to do it, I'm not in Hollywood." So he's like... So he bought a, I think it was a time magazine or something that was like Hollywood's top 100 influencers or something.

And he was like, "That's my dream, 100." So he took it was directors, producers, writers, whatever. And he took it and he's like, okay, "I'm going to dream 100, these people." So he sent his script to all 100, of these people. Then he called them on the phone and he sent them a gift and they called him. And eventually I think it was LeAnn Rimes called him back, loved the script, got the deal, pitched it to things, sold it to Hollywood. And they ended up making a play out of it, I believe anyway, I don't remember all the details, but that was the dream 100. So I remember reading that in Chet's original book.

And then I asked him about it. I'm like, "There's something here, but I don't know what it is." Because I'm selling a book. I can't dream 100 everyone and be like, "Hey, you should buy a copy of my free book." Because it's free@trafficsecrets.com, right? It's not efficient. It would cost me too much. But then I was like, "Wait a minute. There are people on my list or there're people in my world who already have congregated my dream 100." I told you yesterday I got to figure out what are the blogs they're reading? Right. So if I figure out here's the blog, they're reading, there's a 100,000 readers of this blog who are my dream customers, wait, who owns the blog? Who's in charge of that blog? What if I started marketing directly to that person, got to know them and send them gifts and whatever.

And if they like it and then they make a blog post about it. I might sell 50 or a hundred or a thousand copies of my book. Right. And I think who are my dream 100, what podcasts they listening to? And they're like, wait, "If someone owns a podcast and my dream customers are listening, what if I market to the person who owns the podcast? What if I got that person to say yes. And also they promoted it to their podcast and I make a thousand sales overnight." Okay. And that was where the concept of the dream 100 was born for us. And so for the last decade of my life is what I've been doing. I've been figuring out who, in fact yesterday, people are like, "Russell, what do you do every day all day?" I spent three hours yesterday on my phone, which is right here.

My Instagram folks are watching me live on the device I use. I spent three, almost four hours yesterday contacting my dream 100. That's it, personal messages to all of them. Boom. "Hey, this is Russell." I send a gift. Hey, this is Russell. Hey, this is Russell. Hey, this is Russell. And that's what I did for four hours yesterday, dream 100. But Russell, "I thought you were trying to sell tons of your book, why were you doing Facebook ads?" There's people doing Facebook ads, but I would rather get one person who could spend a hundred thousand dollars… Like Peng Joon right now. You guys probably seen the ads for the book, right? Peng Joon, is spending tons of money right now, buying Facebook ads, promoting my book so I can go and buy more Facebook ads myself. Or I can build a relationship with Peng Joon because of my dream 100.

And then he promotes it and he spends a 100,000 own pocket selling the book. That's a much better way to do it. Right. And so for me, this is the phase I'm going, my dream 100. I'm training people to write blog, posts, do podcast interviews and send out emails to the list and all sorts of stuff. Okay. But that's the magical dream 100. So anyway I want you guys to get the book it took me three days to read it, so I can't spend all three days just reading the whole thing, that's why I want you guys to get it. So when you get the book on page 41, this is the little chart I made of the dream 100. It's probably going to be backwards for some of these cameras, but basically I do each platform.

So Facebook, Instagram, podcasting, YouTube, excuse me. Email lists, blogging, Google, YouTube, Pinterest. Right. So I put out the categories of each of the different industries here and then going down what I do it's okay. Who on Facebook is already congregated my dream 100? Okay. And so for me, I was like, "Well, okay, Tony Robbins has got 3.2 million fans, Grant Cardone's got, I don't know, 2 million fans. We've got Prince Ea got a billion fans," whatever. And I start making a list of all the people who've already congregated my dream customers. Who are they? Where are they at? Okay. I go to Facebook. I make a list as many as I can find. Okay. And then I might go to Instagram. Who are the influencers, who've already congregated my dream 100. And I go to Instagram. So I, write out their names.

Oh, this person, this person, this person start listing out all their names. Then I go to podcasts. Okay. Who are the podcasters who've already congregated my dream 100. I start listing all the names and the podcast people who are the YouTube channels that already congregated my dream 100, who already have a million subscribers. I can go spend the next six years trying to get a million subscribers, or I can go to the person that already got a million subscribers. And if I can do a deal with him or her, have them make a video for me, boom. Now I'm suddenly in front of a million people that fast. Okay. You see how this works. Then who's got the email list in my industry. Who's the bloggers. Okay. And I start making lists of all these different things.

And that becomes my dream 100. Okay. And so I'm starting traffic again. Notice this whole book I haven't said a single word about Facebook ads yet. Right? Everyone's like, "On Facebook ads, lets do Google ads." guy comes eventually. That's in section two in the middle, but there's all this foundational stuff. That's so much easier to get traffic. Okay. When Facebook shuts you down, what are you guys going to do? You going to be freaking out? Like, "I don't know what to do." And I'll be like, "I'm just going to call my dream 100. They already have an email list. They already got a blog. They had a podcast. I'll just see if I can go on the podcast." Boom. And we do that with our dream 100. So man, this stuff's so much fun. I could go for years about this. Let me see if I want to talk about anything else today on this or, oh, got to read you guys something.

Can I read you a little piece? Are you okay with that? So it's funny how many of you guys know Rachel Hollis? If you don't, okay. Last year her book was the number two selling book in the world. The only one that beat, it was Michelle Obama's book. Okay. She wrote a book called Girl, Wash Your Face. And then Girl, Stop Apologizing this is book number two. And it's funny because I never heard of her. And then I went to this mastermind retreat and I did a list of all the different people. And one of them was a guy named Dave Hollis. Who's Rachel's husband. And I didn't know who he was. And I met him and I messed with my wife that night. I'm like, "Oh, I met this cool guy named Dave Hollis." And she's like, "Dave Hollis is that Rachel's husband."

I'm like, "I don't know who's Rachel." And she's like, "Rachel's the biggest thing in the world," anyways so funny. And so had a chance to meet Dave and then got to meet Rachel and really, really cool. But last year we were in Puerto Rico at a mastermind event sitting around the room and everyone's talking about, their things. And it's funny because in this room there's 20 people and half of them are New York Times bestsellers. Half of them got three or four, five New York Times bestselling books. And it's just an intimidating room to be in. Right. And we're all talking and then someone started asking a question about how do they sell books? And everyone's given their two cents, I'm just writing, things a million miles a minute. And then Rachel starts talking and she said something and just boom, drop the mic.

So I read to you. She said says recently I was in a mastermind event in Puerto Rico and I had a chance to spend time with Rachel Hollis, the author of the number one New York times bestseller Girl, Wash Your Face at the time she was in the middle of launching her new book. Girl, Stop Apologizing. As I was in the middle of writing this book, I was curious about how she had sold over a million copies of her books. I asked her for the secret to selling that many copies and she told me, "We ask ourselves this question, what are the tribes that my women are already in? What network marketing companies are they in? What Facebook groups, what Instagram channels, what hashtags are they following?" After we identified these things, we tried to figure out who are the tribe owners of these women?

Who do we need to become friends with anyone who had over 200,000 followers? We would direct message them, tell them who we were and ask them if we could talk. We started messaging everyone. Our focus was to find the tribes and then figure out the best ways to infiltrate them. And I said the dream 100, she recalled that was exactly what she had done to quickly become one of the bestselling authors of all time, which is crazy. And then I go on again. Quest nutrition, how many of you guys know quest nutrition, quest bars. So Tom Bilyeu is one of the founders of Quest bars. He was also in this mastermind group. And after this I was researching it. How in the world did he build quest to a billion? He sold it for a billion dollars. How did he build that company?

I remember watching it explode overnight. And then he cashed out and I found an interview with him on the founder podcast. And it was interesting. He tells the story. He said "We had a very different approach that got a lot of people, excited, not just about the product, but they felt good about the way we treat them. We went old school, researching several hundred health and fitness influencers. Then sending them handwritten letters and free samples. This is all about showing an understanding of what others were trying to achieve. And that quest was interested in helping them connect with their audience. When people are building community, they have a real sense of service to that community. We would send them free product and just say, if you like it, tell your people. And if you hate it, tell them that too."

"Not trying to steer people's comments to give us a pretty great recommendation or not trying to steer people's comments gave us a pretty great recommendation. Some didn't like it and said so, but the vast majority loved it and were grateful. We had shown an understanding of who they were and what they were trying to do. So they spread the word." You see what happened? Tom built a billion dollar brand off of what? The dream 100 wasn't Facebook ads. It wasn't Google ads. The dream 100, Rachel Hollis became bestselling author in the world off of what? The dream 100. Okay. That's the concept that in chapter two, you guys understanding who's your dream customer? Where are they congregating? Who is in charge of the congregation? Who's the leader. Who's the person that you can infiltrate? And then you got to get to those people.

Right? And it's coming down to building relationships, getting to know them. How can I serve those people? Okay. I did a video on YouTube. In fact, you should all go to YouTube and go to YouTube type in Russell Brunson, Tony Robbins dream 100 and there's a video it's about 10 minutes long of me showing the decade long journey. I did dream 100 Tony Robbins, how I became friends with him, how I became business partners with him, how I got to promote my stuff. It wasn't me just spamming, "Hey promote me Tony." It was me for a year or excuse me a decade serving and building a relationship with him is my dream 100 and getting in and infiltrating that, okay. It's a very powerful, really real strategy. So it's the key though.

So that's the next thing you guys is that even if you don't have the book yet, you should get it. It's free. So the only reason why you wouldn't get it is you must hate money or you hate traffic or one of those things, but you cover $10 shipping handle. You can get it, but even if you don't get it for whatever reason, you still know the concept now and understanding that. So what I would recommend doing, see if I can find the page when you get the books on page 41, but you don't need this book to do this. Just go make a graph like this and say, "Okay, who's already congregated my dream customers on Facebook, and start making a list of those names. Who's already congregated my dream. 100 on Instagram, make a list of those names on podcasts, on YouTube, on email, on blogs," and find those people.

Those are the existing congregations, right? And when you do that, my goal would be to try to get a hundred people, right? So 10 people, 10 or 20 people on Facebook, 20 people on Instagram, 20 people on podcasts, 20 people get 20 of them 20. All these different platforms have a hundred people. Now there's your dream 100. Now when you have that, that becomes the people you're marketing to those 100 people, right? If I get one of those hundred people, say yes, it can blow up your business. I remember when I did this exercise with the DotCom Secrets book, one of my dream 100 and my podcasting thing was JLD John Lee Dumas, Entrepreneurs on Fire. I never met, excuse me. I never met him yet. Sent him a copy of the book, sent him a dream 100 package, got to know him a little bit, messaged me.

He was like, "I love your book. Want to promote it." He had me on podcast. I think the first day he sold like 500 copies of the DotCom Secrets book. Okay. And I came off of one dream 100 package. Right? So if I know, here's a hundred people, these are the people I'm marketing to, I'm serving, I'm getting to know them. I'm building relationships. And I'm going to focus on putting in the time to get to know these people it'll pay off in dividends. Okay. So that's the first step in the traffic secrets process is the dream 100. Getting to understand that when we were launching ClickFunnels, it was interesting because I'm no coder. I don't have any technical ability. So while my business partner, Todd and my business partner at the time, Dylan, while they were coding ClickFunnels, you're wandering Russell, what did you do?

You're useless to the equation. I know I can't code. So what did I do? This is what I did. I sat there all night while they're coding and I'm messaging people getting to know them, building relationships. I remember my dream 100, by the time we launched ClickFunnels was dream 328 or something. I don't know how many, but it had grown because I built all these relationships and we launched ClickFunnels and we grew it. And it's crazy now that, ClickFunnels five and a half years ago it started. Today. We have over a 100,000 active customers, 30% of you guys logged in yesterday, which is crazy. So 30,000 plus people logged in yesterday to build a funnel. What's crazy is that the majority of those customers came off of the following of my dream 100 the original dream 100 that I had set up five years ago.

And I've been relentlessly getting to know them, building relationships, pursuing them, asking them, promote things, getting them to use ClickFunnels. I've been building free funnels for tons of them. I put in the hard work, the dream 100. And on the back side of that has been a company that does hundreds of millions of dollars a year. So anyway, I hope that helps getting the wheels you had spinning. That's just secret number two, the dream 100. So, all right. We're five or six days in this guys we've gotten through the introduction secret one and secret two has been good so far you learning good stuff. If you like this comment down below, like "That's awesome." If you're like "That was lame Russell, I don't need traffic. I hate traffic," then be like, "That was lame." I don't care. Let me know what other way.

The more that you tell me the better, I know how to do these and I can keep doing, if you guys like I'm enjoying it, hopefully you are as well again, here's your call to action for you guys. If you don't have a copy of the book yet we're in pre-order right now, you can get it@trafficsecrets.com. The books actually ship May 5th, but you can download the audio book tonight and listen to this weekend. Binge, listen, and start getting these principles into your brain. The more you understand them the better a lot of you guys ask about box set. This is all three of my books, new updated hardbound versions of DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets and Traffic Secrets, as well as this new work book called Unlock The Secrets as well. The only place to get this out is the upsell. So there you go.

When you get a copy of the book, the first order form bump is the audiobook you say yes to that, you'll get the audiobook. And then if you want to get all the updated hardbound versions, that only way to get those is after you buy the book, we make an offer where you can get them all at the discount. So that's the only way to get those. I get them the box ships May 5th, but the audiobooks are there now. So you can start listing at ASAP that's number one. So where do I download if I already bought? If you go back trafficsecret.com is a link there says log in, click on login, and you can log into your members area. It's got all the bonuses, the videos, there's five hours of videos there as well. There's a whole bunch of cool stuff you get when you get the book for free and over here this weekend, it's you guys wonder what to do.

Go binge watch stuff on FunnelFlix. We have a premier week for free. You can go and you can watch Frank Kern's presentation today for free each day, unlocks free presentations to get you to fall in love with FunnelFlix. So we're now part of the streaming wars. ClickFunnels is taking on Disney plus and Amazon. And it's all there for you guys as well. One thing I'm going to end with, I talked about this in very beginning, but those who logged in late is a mañana principle. And I want to just re stress this because this can help you guys during this time of crisis. So right now everyone's stressing out, right? Because of all the excuse me, the economic turmoil. And so what I'm going to do is I want you to take that stress and I want you to stress about it mañana tomorrow. So take that and tomorrow I'll worry about today.

I'm focusing on planting seeds for my future. Okay? Start planting, seeds, plant seeds of reading book, creating funnels, building stuff, making videos, publishing, whatever your seeds are. Start planting those seeds ASAP. Okay. Because harvest is coming, but if you don't plant, now you're going to be screwed when the harvest comes. So start planting your seeds right now. Okay. And take all the stress of the coronavirus or whatever you're stressing about. Put that tomorrow, mañana, worry about that. And then all this, you leave for tomorrow, which is the planting of the seeds, "Oh, I'll plant tomorrow. I'm going to study tomorrow. I'll build a funnel tomorrow. I'll make a video tomorrow. I'll publish tomorrow." It's time to stop and take that to today, moving that forward and we're going to do it right now. That sound good. That's the game plan you guys.

Appreciate you all for hanging out. This has been a fun week so far. Hopefully you're enjoying the time with your family and your loved ones. Make sure to prepare yourself you guys. We don't know what's going to happen, but the best thing you can be possibly doing right now is planting seeds for tomorrow. The harvest will come. If you've not planted during the season of planting, you're going to be in trouble. So now is the time. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for everything. Go your book, trafficsecrets.com, then funnelflix.com. Got have some fun and have a great weekend. Thanks everybody. We'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 1794 no Where Are Your Dream Customers HIDING! (TS) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/where-are-your-dream-customers-hiding-ts Enjoy another episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to know EXACTLY where your Dream Customers are hanging out online? In this episode, Russell shares: Why you DON’T need to create brand new traffic. How to find the places where your dream customers are already congregating. How to hook your dream customers once you’ve found them. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Hopefully you guys are all doing good today. We are in the next day of our Traffic Secrets Launch, talking about traffic secrets, and the book, and how you traffic to your funnels and a bunch of other amazing things. I hope you guys enjoyed the last few days. We've had a fun time to go through some of the things in the books and the concepts. So far, well over 10,000 of you guys have ordered the book, which is amazing. I think it's 3,000 or 4,000 of you guys have bought the audio book, which is the upsell order form bumps, which I'm super grateful for, because I spent three days in lockdown in a recording studio recording that for you guys. So thank you for making that time not a waste of my time and energy. It was crazy. For those who've never done an audio book, you literally have headphones on, and you're reading the book and there's someone listening to everything. And if you mess up, you have to stop, and then you go back, and you just go again, and if you mess up, you stop. I did all three books over seven days. It was a nightmare, being stuck in little spot like this, and you can't move while you're talking, and you can't mess up and you have to keep your energy high for eight hours a day. It's really, really hard. But there were over 6,700 cuts where I messed up and we had to go back and fix, and fix, and fix, and fix. To read all three of these books, Dotcom, Expert and Traffic. So anyway, I've got a dozen or so of you guys messaged me saying you listened to the entire audio book already, which is crazy. It took me three days to read and you listened to it in a day, which is, I don't know, makes me happy. Also, people said the hard thing is that they can't listen in 2X speed because it's already at 8X speed because that's how you get Russell Brunson. I only come in 8X speed, I don't come any slower than that. Anyway, which is kind of fun though. But anyway, the Traffic Secrets audio book is the order form bump. And then, by the way, I don't know, probably 200 of you guys have messaged me on Instagram like, "How do I get the box set?" Okay. When you buy the book, you go buy the Traffic Secrets book and the upsell's like, "Hey, do you want the entire Secrets trilogy?" And if you say, yes, then we'll ship the whole thing on May 5th. If you say no, then you don't get the whole thing. Anyway, so that's kind of there. And the other thing is that one of the upsells is the audio books for all three, so if you want to geek out during this quarantine time and listen to all three of the audio books, that may be an opportunity, but you got to go check out the funnel to even know. So, if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you'll get a free copy of the Traffic Secrets book, the order form bump is like, "Do you want the audio?" You're like, "Yes, I want the audio book." Boom, you got the audio book. Next upsell's like, "Hey, do you want the entire box set?" Because you'd be crazy not too. And you're like, "Yeah, I want the box set." And you say, "Yes." And it's like, "Do you also want the audio book for the box set?" And you're like, "Yes." So, that's how it works. Anyway, I hope you guys enjoy the funnel. I always hope people buy slowly because it's fun to go through the process and see what we did. All right, so today, hopefully this works a little better. Yesterday my Instagram was muffled, so hopefully you guys can hear me. And then my Facebook/YouTube video camera crashed nine minutes in because somebody tried to call me. So I've locked down all these things, this is my own personal studio out of my quarantine, trying to make sure this is all going to work for you guys. Hopefully it's working today, hopefully you guys can hear me, hopefully nobody calls through. I try to block everybody, and we can just hang out and have some fun. This video behind me is trafficsecrets.com. If you're like, "What is that? What are you saying on that video, Russell?" You can just click on that button and you can watch it. So anyway, everyone said, "Where do I go buy..." I literally just said you get the entire box. So the only way to get the box right now is you go to trafficsecrets.com. You buy the book. And I say, buy loosely because it's free, use just cover shipping and handling. So it's 9.95 US or 19.95 international. And these ship on May 5th. So there's a little bit of delay because the way the publishers work is you... Yeah. The way the publisher works, the publishing date is May 5th, but we had to roll it out earlier. Anyway, it's a long story, but the books, that's where you get the book. And then the audio book, you can get immediate access to. So you can listen to it today. And then the box set is the first upsell. So if you want to upgrade to the box set, which I highly recommend because this is my life work. Is this crazy? People say sometimes, "This is my life's work." Like literally, this is my life's work. It's all here. It's in the Dot Com Secrets book. It's all my life's work about how to build funnels. This is the new hardbound updated version. There's over 30,000 new words in this. Actually it's more than that. This book started at 58,000 words. I ended deleting... I deleted probably 20, 25, 30,000 words and ended up over 90,000. Expert Secret, same thing. This one started at 60,000, I think I deleted 20 something thousand words. And then it ended up being over 90... Almost, I think this one was almost 90,000, and Traffic Secrets is like 94,000. So this is my life work. It's updated. They all work together. When you get these, I would highly recommend going over it. I would listen DotCom Secrets first, then Expert, then Traffic. If you've read these in the past, they've all been updated. They're all new. This is five years worth of experience re-woven back into the book, that's... Anyway. So there you go. There's a pitch for the box said, but it's going to be awesome. So today what I want to do, I'm going to go back through Traffic Secrets. All right, Traffic Secrets. And we're going to go dive deeper. So I've been reading parts of this and telling you stories from this book over the last couple days. I'm going to keep... Hopefully you guys are enjoying this. If you're liking this, let me know in the comments down below. I'm enjoying doing it and I'm going to keep doing it if you guys like. Unless you're like, "This is horrible, Russell, I just want the book or the audio book," I can stop, but I'm enjoying this. I'm in quarantine anyway. So might as well hang out with my friends, talking about my new book. So if you go through this, the first video, I talked about the preface, preface, I don't know know how you say that. And I talked about how there's a storm coming and it is crazy. I started writing this book two years ago, I would've never known that we would have launched this in the middle of this epidemic where we're all staying at home. We're all quarantined, and businesses are failing left and right, right now because of just... Anyway. I'm not going to go too deep into it, but it's a scary, scary time. And your ability to get customers in the door, not just crappy customers, but your dream customers, has everything to do with your business, if it survives, or if it doesn't. This is literally your life preserver. I'm throwing it to you right now for you to master because this is going to keep fuel, traffic, people coming into your business right now. And in a couple months from now, when the quarantines lifting and things are shifted, it'll give you the ability to thrive, to regrow your business. All the things happen, but this is this nice moment you have to go there and master these principles and really understand them. So literally, the introduction's called There's A Storm Coming, and now we're in the middle of the storm. So not going to say I'm calling my shot or calling the future, but anyway, just kidding. All right, so that was the first day. And then we did the book launch and then that day I talked about chapter one, who is your dream customer? We talked about away from pleasure towards pain, no away from pain towards pleasure. Then yesterday we started talking about the searcher and the scroller, understand the two differences of your dream customer, right? Are they searching or are they scrolling, and which networks are different, right? Think about searching how it's like Google, YouTube, Quora, all the search platforms, and the social platforms, you're doing interruption marketing, like Facebook, Instagram, also YouTube, YouTube, both, which is kind of fun. I went into that. Understand the differences because the way we structure our funnels and our ads are different based on if it's interruption versus search. And now today, we're moving into secret number two, where are they hiding? What, where are who hiding? Okay. So if secret number one's all about figuring out who is your dream customer, secret number two is figuring out where are these people actually congregating? Where are they hiding? Where are they at online? And so that's what I'm going to kind of go into here to talk about. And I'm going to read part, you guys care if I read a little bit of this? I don't know. I don't have to. If you want me to read it, be in comments like "Read it, Russell, read some of a book." Because I could tell you the story, but I already wrote it so might as well... Okay. I'm going to read part of it. Here we go. Secret number two, where are they hiding? One day in college, I knew I was supposed to be doing homework, but my ADHD in mind couldn't take it anymore. I had to stop writing even if it was just for a few minutes, I looked around and made sure no one else was looking, and then opened up a new tab on my browser. I started typing www.themat.com. And then within seconds I was taken to a new universe, a universe occupied by hundreds of thousands of wrestlers, just like me all around the world. This was our playground where we could talk about wrestling, post pictures and videos and debate about who was going to win every match happening in the next big tournament. I read a few articles and watched a video showing a new way to finish a single leg take down. Afterwards, I went to the forums. Oh, how I loved the forums. Who's better, Dan Gable in his prime or Cael Sanderson now? Somebody had just posted. Of course I had an opinion and it took everything I had to not spend the next 90 minutes writing my thoughtful response about how, if we shrunk Cael down to Dan's size and took him in the time machine, back to the 70s, Cael would've destroyed Dan head to head, but I knew I couldn't. My paper was due the next day and I was locked away in study hall until it was done. Angrily I closed down the tab and sat back in my chair to stretch before I made the trip back to reality. As I was leaning back, I started looking at my other wrestling friends who were locked away in study hall with me because of our bad grades. As I glanced towards our 133 pounder, I noticed a smile on his face, what? What could he be smiling about in study hall? As I shifted my gaze from his face to his monitor, I saw it. He was also on themat.com and he was writing his comments on why he thought Dan would actually beat Cael. Then looking at the other wrestlers in the room, I decided I had to know what they were doing. Faking like I had to go to the bathroom, I stood up and started to walk past their desks. I looked at our 157 pounder screen, yep, he was looking at themat.com too, the 178 pounder, themat.com. But what about our heavyweight? He had to be actually doing his homework, right? Nope. He was also on themat.com. And as I passed his computer, I quickly read his form reply that Bruce Baumgartner, two time Olympic heavyweight champ and four time Olympic medalist, would beat both Dan and Cael at the same time. What? Was he crazy? There's no way that Cael would lose to Bruce. And that's when it hit me. Themat.com was our little corner of the internet. All the wrestlers in study hall were congregated on that website talking about wrestling, but we weren't the only ones. Wrestlers in other colleges across the country, along with high school wrestlers and their parents, were on the website too. All around the world, hundreds of thousands of people were all together in this one spot to talk about the topic that we love most, wrestling. Honestly, this is the real power of the internet. It has allowed us to connect with like-minded people in a way that wasn't possible before. It allowed each of us with our unique and sometimes weird hobbies and interests to congregate with our people to discuss the things that meant the most to us. I'm going to stop. What do you guys think? Does that get you excited? Ah! Oh man, it's so much fun. I have a lot of stories in this book about that, but that is the power of congregation. So you guys have to understand. In secret number one we already identified who is our dream customer. And in the book, I go through a bunch of exercises to go deep into that. After you know who they are, then you've got to figure out where are these people hanging out? That's the real power of the internet. We figure out who our dream customer are. We figure out where they're congregating, and our job to figure out, hey, here they are. Here's all the wrestlers in the world that are on these websites. If you're in fitness, here's all the fitness people are reading these blogs. They're on these email newsletters. They're following this person on Instagram, this person on Facebook. Or if you're into cooking, where are the people interested in cooking? Where are they already congregating? Our job as marketers is not to go generate traffic. People are always like, "I need to create traffic." No, you don't need to create traffic. Traffic's already there. People are already there. They're already congregating based on what they're interested in. Your job is to figure out where are those congregations? And I need to come out there and I got to throw out my hooks in those congregations. So if I figure out there's 100,000 wrestlers here, I'm selling wrestling products. What do I do? I come over to that congregation, I throw a hook in and I try to grab those people out of that... In fact, I have a cool image. You guys want to see a cool image that I doodled? I'm a doodler. So that's what I do. In fact, the Traffic Secrets book I think has more doodles per pages than any of my other books. But here you can check out. This is the doodle I did for this. So here's the world, right? And throughout the world, there's random people who are interested in your topic all around the world. And they're all congregating together in a spot, right? So for all the wrestlers in the world, they're all congregating on themat.com. All the internet marketers in one spot, all the tennis players are somewhere, all the people in health and fitness, all the people who are interested in whatever you do, cooking, cleaning, legal advice, whatever, like whatever your thing is, everyone's got a different thing, right? Whatever your thing is, all the people are there and they're all congregating on certain websites. So your job as the marketer here is not to go create traffic. You don't got to come here trying to drum up business. You go to the marketplace. This is the marketplace for your people. They're all hanging out already. Steven Larson, that I'm going to quote later in the book, we talk more about this. But he talked about, people think that the market is their dream customer. It's like, no, no, no. The market's not your dream customer. The market is where the dream customer goes. So if you wake up in the morning and... Sorry, of course somebody's always going to try to call in the middle of Facebook live, or Instagram live. Okay. I'm back. Someone tried to call, but you don't go to... The market's not a person. You go to the market. If I want to take my family and go to the market, we're the dream customers. We wake up, we drive to the market. We're there, right? Same thing. This is the market. This is where your people are all going to. So you've got to figure out where's your market. And then you, as a marketer, you go to the market and you throw in your hooks. And you grab those people and pull them into your funnels and take them through your process. And you don't know which hooks are going to work, so you have a bunch of hooks. You're throwing in different hooks in here, until you figure out, this is the hook that grabs these people, we pull them in, and then we go and we can serve them through our funnels. So that's the big secret to understand. Who's your dream customer and where are they hanging out? After I figure out where they're hanging out, then I just go figure out how do I get their attention? What do I do to throw out hooks? We talked yesterday about interruption marketing. So if I know that, hey, my dream people, they're interested in business. They're on Facebook right now. So I know I can target their interest. People interested in business, or people interested in Tony Robbins or whoever, I figure who my dream customer, what are they passionate about? You know what they're interested in, then I go to Facebook or I go to YouTube, or I go to Instagram, or wherever I'm trying to go interrupt them at, I'm like, hey, they're all hanging out here and talking about the thing. I'm going to interrupt them. I'm going to throw my hooks in there. And if I do that right... We talked about this yesterday. If I do that, I throw my hook in there, I get their attention just for a moment, just long enough that I can then tell them a story to build up the perceived value of what I have to offer. And then I offer them the thing. That's the magic, you guys. This game becomes really fun when you start understanding the principles. It's not difficult. A lot of times people think, "Oh, this is complicated or hard," or whatever. It's like, no, it's really simple. Traffic is simple when you understand, all this is really becoming super hyper clear on who your dream customer is. That's what all of chapter one here in the book is all about. Who is your dream customer? And this is number two, now that I know who they are, where are they congregating? Where are they already hanging out? Again, I'm not trying to create traffic, I'm trying to figure out where's traffic already at, where are they already congregating? Where are they already hanging out at? Where's the marketplaces that are already there? I'm going to go find those market places. I'm going to drive to them. I'm going to throw my hooks out, try to get their attention, just long enough so I can tell them a story. After I tell them a story, the golden stories that increase the perceived value of what I'm selling. And then I make them the offer. And that is the game. That is the game that we are playing. So Josh just said, "What's the advice you'd give a 24-year-old looking to get into business?" Step number one, you need to understand this business. I would go get the book, read it, master it, learn it, apply it. After you read the book, I would go find somebody else's business and work for free for them and apply these principles. Go drive traffic for them and prove that you know what you're talking about. After you've done that and you've got some success for someone, then you can go say, "Hey, I read this book. I know how to get traffic. I did traffic for this guy for free. He's blown up his business right now, even in the middle of this economic downturn, because these principles work in an up economy and a down economy." Then go and tell someone else, "I did this for somebody else. I would love to do this service for you." And start doing services initially. Okay? If you have no idea where to start, start by mastering the skills in here and do the service. I wrote the Dotcom Secrets book and people from around the world learned these processes and some applied them in their own businesses, and some who didn't know what to do yet, took these and started applying them to other people's businesses. They became funnel builders. They became things like that. We had an event last summer, called Unlock The Secret. So it was a family event. We had a lot of kids there and things like that. And one of the guys there, Noah Lens, he was, I think 12 or 13 at the time, came and spoke. He said, "I read the Dotcom Secrets book. I listen to your podcast. And I started building funnels for other people." And I asked him, I said, "How much do you charge people to build a funnel for them right now?" He said, "I used to charge $25,000 but I stopped because I had so much business." He's like, "Now, I only build funnels for equity." I was like, "You're a 13-year-old kid. And you only build funnels for equity," for crying out loud. And how did Noah do it? He read the Dotcom Secrets book and mastered the funnel building. I've got a ton of people now who have read the Expert Secrets book and mastered storytelling. And now they have agencies, helping people build stories. There are even people who read the Traffic Secrets book, they master it and start agencies. So if you don't know where to start yet, learn the principles, master them, understand them, and then do them for other people. If you have a business, learn them and master them and do them for yourself. I don't care. The principles work, whether it's your business, somebody else's, but now is the time to learn it. So, oh, someone's asking what's in the Unlock The Secrets book. You'll have to find out. I'll give you a hint. It has to do with something amazing. Just kidding. Anyway, so there's some hints about section number two here, secret number two. Trying to think if I'm going to go any deeper today. Who's your dream customer? Where are they hiding? Yeah. I'll go deeper tomorrow into, yeah... These chapters are long. There's a lot of cool stuff. I've got tons of doodles, as you can see in here. So I will wrap it for today. Tomorrow we're going to start talking about... Now, so who's your dream customer? Where are they congregating? Tomorrow, we're going to get into the next concept, which is called, The Dream 100. And some of you guys think you know what that means, I'm going to tell you what it actually means. And we're going to walk through that tomorrow. So it'll be fun. Anyway, if you guys don't have a copy of your book yet, it is time. They're flying off the shelves. They're free, you just cover the shipping and handling, trafficsecrets.com, and you can go get it. And on top of that, there's a bunch of amazing, insane bonuses. In fact, I wish I could scroll down on my computer back here. If you scroll down, there's some crazy bonuses. There's an hour-long presentation. I did funnel hacking live, teaching about traffic secrets. You can get that immediately and start watching it. There's a video there from prince EA, the man, who's had over three billion views on his videos, his presentation is one of the bonuses there, to help show you how to make videos that go viral. Peng Joon who did a presentation at Funnel Hacking Live about how he spends a weekend and builds all of... He has a process, he spends a weekend, he records a bunch of videos and that is all of the assets he uses to drive traffic from every platform. His presentation's in there, a bunch of other bonus... I think like four or five hours of bonus presentations you get immediately, the second you get the book, I could easily sell each of those for 97 bucks by themselves. But you get them for free when you get the book for free. So it's like, if you hate free then don't get the book. But if you like free, you should go to trafficsecrets.com and get your copy of the book. And then for any of you guys who are like, "I want to get this into my head today. I'm sitting around, I'm bored." The audio book, this book doesn't ship till May 5th because we're going through an amazing publisher, Hay House, and the pub date... For anyone who's ever written a book, there's a pub date, pub date is May 5th. Two days ago, March 17th was the day I was first allowed to talk about this and start doing pre-orders. And May 5th is the day it ships. So we're in pre-order phase right now. But the good news is I spent three days in a studio reading this entire book and the audio book is available right now. So you can go and get it today. It is the order form bumps. So when you get the free book, if you want to upgrade you can get the audio book and start listening to it right now, and you can dump all this info into your brain without waiting any longer. So anyway, that's kind of fun. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this. For those of you guys who are in quarantine, go get this stuff, and you got something to study with your wife and your kids and your family, your spouse, your significant other, whatever it is, your business partners. You can go start watching stuff right now and start understanding these principles. Now there's this weird time where the nation and the world is all pausing for a second. And you can pause and go Netflix and chill, or you can stop and use this time to get this information into your brain so you can master it so that when the economy, we have this chance to go start... Going full out again in the economy, you'll be able to succeed. So now is the time you guys. Someone said, "Do you think that the book is free?" Yeah. So my hard costs on these books is a lot. I paid for the entire hard cost. I have to pay a shipping house to ship them. So there's people that take them, they put them in a box, they put the postings, and the postman takes these things, they do the process and then some guy walks to your house and hand delivers it. So you've got to cover those costs. I cover the cost for printing this book. I paid for it. It is a big book, 327 pages. So I paid for that. You do have to pay for the shipping though, because I'm not going to do everything for you. If you're not willing to pay for someone to come hand deliver it to your house, it's not going to be the right business for you. You are going to struggle in all things in life, especially running a business. But if you want to pay 10 bucks to get this thing hand delivered to your house from the US postal office, there you go. All you got to do is go to trafficsecrets.com and get your copy now. Anyway, with that said, you guys, I appreciate you all. Thank you so much for everything. You guys are awesome. And I'm having so much fun sharing these traffic secrets with you guys. Now is the time to double down, master the skill, learn it, understand it for yourself, for other people's business, whatever it is. This is a skill set. If you master this and understand it and learn it, it'll serve you for the rest of your life, no matter what business you are in. We always say that the people that can drive traffic in a business are the rain makers. They can make it rain. If you can make it rain, you can write your own paycheck for the rest of your life. Whether it be your own business and you go in there and you make it rain for your own business, or you do it for other people's businesses. The rain makers are the ones who can do anything. They set their own paychecks. They negotiate. The person who can come into business and say, "Hey, your business is struggling. I can turn on the rain." And like, well how much does it cost? I just want 20% of your business. Ah, I can't do that. Well, you're going to go under otherwise. Okay, well, make it rain. You can make it rain. And you get equity in companies like... This skillset will be the most valuable thing you can learn. And you're getting it for $10 of shipping and handling. This is 15 years of my life work, about everything I know about how to get traffic. And it's all here for you guys today. So anyway, I appreciate you guys. Go to trafficsecrets.com and get it. Oh and if you want, and again, the order form bump, you can get the audio book, start listening today. The upsell is this entire huge box set, where if you want, you can get the Dotcom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets book, and the Unlock the Secrets Workbook to go with it. For those who don't already know, Dotcom Secrets is the first book I wrote. This is in fact, if you look at the... Oh, subtitles, I'm going to do subtitles because they help you understand how they all work together. Dotcom Secrets is the underground playbook for growing your company online with sales funnels. This is the new updated hardbound version. It's almost twice as big as the original version and the only place to get the hardbound version right now is as the upsell at trafficsecrets.com. Number two is Expert Secrets, which is the underground playbook for converting your online visitors into lifelong customers. So this one's how to build funnels, this is how to communicate to people when they come to your funnels. You notice on all my pages there's videos, there's presentations, there's things that are happening, there's ads that are happening, like, how do you communicate? How do you use persuasion? How do you master story selling and things like that. That's what this book's all about. Number two, this is not about how you get on stage and speak for a million people. This is about how to master your message and putting it on your online platform, AKA your funnels. So how to build the funnels, how to communicate inside the funnels. And then number three here is how to get traffic or people into those funnels, into said funnels. So these three work hand in hand to help you to grow your company. Which one's my favorite? They're all my favorite. I bled, blood, sweat and tears to get these to you. This is 16, 17 years of my life work all put into here. And then Unlock The Secrets is your underground playbook for scaling your company to the two comma club and beyond. This is a workbook that'll go with the other book. So as you are going through Dotcom Secrets, you're going to be filling out the blanks and getting all the stuff here. As you're going through Expert Secrets, you're going to be filling out the blanks and this will become your workbook for your business. So as you're learning these concepts and these principles, this becomes where you document and you write them down, your thoughts, your ideas, and this will become your playbook for you to be able to go and dominate and take over the world, whatever world it is that you are serving in your business, your people. So there you go. There's the box set. And again, these ship May 5th, but you can pre-order right now a trafficsecrets.com to get the book. The only way you get the box set right now is the upsell inside of the book. So go to trafficsecrets.com, get the book, upgrade to the secrets box, all this entire thing will ship May 5th. But the audio book's available now, plus there's an insane bonuses, there's like five hours of video bonuses just when you get the book and a bunch of other cool things. So now is the time my friends... Yeah, you can get the audio book. Yeah, since I prefer audio, I listen to... Yes, you can get the audio book right now. But you got to go to trafficsecrets.com to get it. All right guys, that's all I got for today. I'll be back tomorrow to share with you guys more from secret number two, which is all about the dream 100, which is the next step in this process. So thanks you guys. Appreciate you all. Have an amazing day, and we'll talk soon everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Where Are Your Dream Customers HIDING! (TS) full 450 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy another episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to know EXACTLY where your Dream Customers are hanging out online? In this episode, Russell shares: Why you DON’T need to create brand new traffic. How to find the places... Enjoy another episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to know EXACTLY where your Dream Customers are hanging out online? In this episode, Russell shares: Why you DON’T need to create brand new traffic. How to find the places where your dream customers are already congregating. How to hook your dream customers once you’ve found them. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Hopefully you guys are all doing good today. We are in the next day of our Traffic Secrets Launch, talking about traffic secrets, and the book, and how you traffic to your funnels and a bunch of other amazing things. I hope you guys enjoyed the last few days. We've had a fun time to go through some of the things in the books and the concepts. So far, well over 10,000 of you guys have ordered the book, which is amazing. I think it's 3,000 or 4,000 of you guys have bought the audio book, which is the upsell order form bumps, which I'm super grateful for, because I spent three days in lockdown in a recording studio recording that for you guys. So thank you for making that time not a waste of my time and energy. It was crazy. For those who've never done an audio book, you literally have headphones on, and you're reading the book and there's someone listening to everything. And if you mess up, you have to stop, and then you go back, and you just go again, and if you mess up, you stop. I did all three books over seven days. It was a nightmare, being stuck in little spot like this, and you can't move while you're talking, and you can't mess up and you have to keep your energy high for eight hours a day. It's really, really hard. But there were over 6,700 cuts where I messed up and we had to go back and fix, and fix, and fix, and fix. To read all three of these books, Dotcom, Expert and Traffic. So anyway, I've got a dozen or so of you guys messaged me saying you listened to the entire audio book already, which is crazy. It took me three days to read and you listened to it in a day, which is, I don't know, makes me happy. Also, people said the hard thing is that they can't listen in 2X speed because it's already at 8X speed because that's how you get Russell Brunson. I only come in 8X speed, I don't come any slower than that. Anyway, which is kind of fun though. But anyway, the Traffic Secrets audio book is the order form bump. And then, by the way, I don't know, probably 200 of you guys have messaged me on Instagram like, "How do I get the box set?" Okay. When you buy the book, you go buy the Traffic Secrets book and the upsell's like, "Hey, do you want the entire Secrets trilogy?" And if you say, yes, then we'll ship the whole thing on May 5th. If you say no, then you don't get the whole thing. Anyway, so that's kind of there. And the other thing is that one of the upsells is the audio books for all three, so if you want to geek out during this quarantine time and listen to all three of the audio books, that may be an opportunity, but you got to go check out the funnel to even know. So, if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you'll get a free copy of the Traffic Secrets book, the order form bump is like, "Do you want the audio?" You're like, "Yes, I want the audio book." Boom, you got the audio book. Next upsell's like, "Hey, do you want the entire box set?" Because you'd be crazy not too. And you're like, "Yeah, I want the box set." And you say, "Yes." And it's like, "Do you also want the audio book for the box set?" And you're like, "Yes." So, that's how it works. Anyway, I hope you guys enjoy the funnel. I always hope people buy slowly because it's fun to go through the process and see what we did. All right, so today, hopefully this works a little better. Yesterday my Instagram was muffled, so hopefully you guys can hear me. And then my Facebook/YouTube video camera crashed nine minutes in because somebody tried to call me. So I've locked down all these things, this is my own personal studio out of my quarantine, trying to make sure this is all going to work for you guys. Hopefully it's working today, hopefully you guys can hear me, hopefully nobody calls through. I try to block everybody, and we can just hang out and have some fun. This video behind me is trafficsecrets.com. If you're like, "What is that? What are you saying on that video, Russell?" You can just click on that button and you can watch it. So anyway, everyone said, "Where do I go buy..." I literally just said you get the entire box. So the only way to get the box right now is you go to trafficsecrets.com. You buy the book. And I say, buy loosely because it's free, use just cover shipping and handling. So it's 9.95 US or 19.95 international. And these ship on May 5th. So there's a little bit of delay because the way the publishers work is you... Yeah. The way the publisher works, the publishing date is May 5th, but we had to roll it out earlier. Anyway, it's a long story, but the books, that's where you get the book. And then the audio book, you can get immediate access to. So you can listen to it today. And then the box set is the first upsell. So if you want to upgrade to the box set, which I highly recommend because this is my life work. Is this crazy? People say sometimes, "This is my life's work." Like literally, this is my life's work. It's all here. It's in the Dot Com Secrets book. It's all my life's work about how to build funnels. This is the new hardbound updated version. There's over 30,000 new words in this. Actually it's more than that. This book started at 58,000 words. I ended deleting... I deleted probably 20, 25, 30,000 words and ended up over 90,000. Expert Secret, same thing. This one started at 60,000, I think I deleted 20 something thousand words. And then it ended up being over 90... Almost, I think this one was almost 90,000, and Traffic Secrets is like 94,000. So this is my life work. It's updated. They all work together. When you get these, I would highly recommend going over it. I would listen DotCom Secrets first, then Expert, then Traffic. If you've read these in the past, they've all been updated. They're all new. This is five years worth of experience re-woven back into the book, that's... Anyway. So there you go. There's a pitch for the box said, but it's going to be awesome. So today what I want to do, I'm going to go back through Traffic Secrets. All right, Traffic Secrets. And we're going to go dive deeper. So I've been reading parts of this and telling you stories from this book over the last couple days. I'm going to keep... Hopefully you guys are enjoying this. If you're liking this, let me know in the comments down below. I'm enjoying doing it and I'm going to keep doing it if you guys like. Unless you're like, "This is horrible, Russell, I just want the book or the audio book," I can stop, but I'm enjoying this. I'm in quarantine anyway. So might as well hang out with my friends, talking about my new book. So if you go through this, the first video, I talked about the preface, preface, I don't know know how you say that. And I talked about how there's a storm coming and it is crazy. I started writing this book two years ago, I would've never known that we would have launched this in the middle of this epidemic where we're all staying at home. We're all quarantined, and businesses are failing left and right, right now because of just... Anyway. I'm not going to go too deep into it, but it's a scary, scary time. And your ability to get customers in the door, not just crappy customers, but your dream customers, has everything to do with your business, if it survives, or if it doesn't. This is literally your life preserver. I'm throwing it to you right now for you to master because this is going to keep fuel, traffic, people coming into your business right now. And in a couple months from now, when the quarantines lifting and things are shifted, it'll give you the ability to thrive, to regrow your business. All the things happen, but this is this nice moment you have to go there and master these principles and really understand them. So literally, the introduction's called There's A Storm Coming, and now we're in the middle of the storm. So not going to say I'm calling my shot or calling the future, but anyway, just kidding. All right, so that was the first day. And then we did the book launch and then that day I talked about chapter one, who is your dream customer? We talked about away from pleasure towards pain, no away from pain towards pleasure. Then yesterday we started talking about the searcher and the scroller, understand the two differences of your dream customer, right? Are they searching or are they scrolling, and which networks are different, right? Think about searching how it's like Google, YouTube, Quora, all the search platforms, and the social platforms, you're doing interruption marketing, like Facebook, Instagram, also YouTube, YouTube, both, which is kind of fun. I went into that. Understand the differences because the way we structure our funnels and our ads are different based on if it's interruption versus search. And now today, we're moving into secret number two, where are they hiding? What, where are who hiding? Okay. So if secret number one's all about figuring out who is your dream customer, secret number two is figuring out where are these people actually congregating? Where are they hiding? Where are they at online? And so that's what I'm going to kind of go into here to talk about. And I'm going to read part, you guys care if I read a little bit of this? I don't know. I don't have to. If you want me to read it, be in comments like "Read it, Russell, read some of a book." Because I could tell you the story, but I already wrote it so might as well... Okay. I'm going to read part of it. Here we go. Secret number two, where are they hiding? One day in college, I knew I was supposed to be doing homework, but my ADHD in mind couldn't take it anymore. I had to stop writing even if it was just for a few minutes, I looked around and made sure no one else was looking, and then opened up a new tab on my browser. I started typing www.themat.com. And then within seconds I was taken to a new universe, a universe occupied by hundreds of thousands of wrestlers, just like me all around the world. This was our playground where we could talk about wrestling, post pictures and videos and debate about who was going to win every match happening in the next big tournament. I read a few articles and watched a video showing a new way to finish a single leg take down. Afterwards, I went to the forums. Oh, how I loved the forums. Who's better, Dan Gable in his prime or Cael Sanderson now? Somebody had just posted. Of course I had an opinion and it took everything I had to not spend the next 90 minutes writing my thoughtful response about how, if we shrunk Cael down to Dan's size and took him in the time machine, back to the 70s, Cael would've destroyed Dan head to head, but I knew I couldn't. My paper was due the next day and I was locked away in study hall until it was done. Angrily I closed down the tab and sat back in my chair to stretch before I made the trip back to reality. As I was leaning back, I started looking at my other wrestling friends who were locked away in study hall with me because of our bad grades. As I glanced towards our 133 pounder, I noticed a smile on his face, what? What could he be smiling about in study hall? As I shifted my gaze from his face to his monitor, I saw it. He was also on themat.com and he was writing his comments on why he thought Dan would actually beat Cael. Then looking at the other wrestlers in the room, I decided I had to know what they were doing. Faking like I had to go to the bathroom, I stood up and started to walk past their desks. I looked at our 157 pounder screen, yep, he was looking at themat.com too, the 178 pounder, themat.com. But what about our heavyweight? He had to be actually doing his homework, right? Nope. He was also on themat.com. And as I passed his computer, I quickly read his form reply that Bruce Baumgartner, two time Olympic heavyweight champ and four time Olympic medalist, would beat both Dan and Cael at the same time. What? Was he crazy? There's no way that Cael would lose to Bruce. And that's when it hit me. Themat.com was our little corner of the internet. All the wrestlers in study hall were congregated on that website talking about wrestling, but we weren't the only ones. Wrestlers in other colleges across the country, along with high school wrestlers and their parents, were on the website too. All around the world, hundreds of thousands of people were all together in this one spot to talk about the topic that we love most, wrestling. Honestly, this is the real power of the internet. It has allowed us to connect with like-minded people in a way that wasn't possible before. It allowed each of us with our unique and sometimes weird hobbies and interests to congregate with our people to discuss the things that meant the most to us. I'm going to stop. What do you guys think? Does that get you excited? Ah! Oh man, it's so much fun. I have a lot of stories in this book about that, but that is the power of congregation. So you guys have to understand. In secret number one we already identified who is our dream customer. And in the book, I go through a bunch of exercises to go deep into that. After you know who they are, then you've got to figure out where are these people hanging out? That's the real power of the internet. We figure out who our dream customer are. We figure out where they're congregating, and our job to figure out, hey, here they are. Here's all the wrestlers in the world that are on these websites. If you're in fitness, here's all the fitness people are reading these blogs. They're on these email newsletters. They're following this person on Instagram, this person on Facebook. Or if you're into cooking, where are the people interested in cooking? Where are they already congregating? Our job as marketers is not to go generate traffic. People are always like, "I need to create traffic." No, you don't need to create traffic. Traffic's already there. People are already there. They're already congregating based on what they're interested in. Your job is to figure out where are those congregations? And I need to come out there and I got to throw out my hooks in those congregations. So if I figure out there's 100,000 wrestlers here, I'm selling wrestling products. What do I do? I come over to that congregation, I throw a hook in and I try to grab those people out of that... In fact, I have a cool image. You guys want to see a cool image that I doodled? I'm a doodler. So that's what I do. In fact, the Traffic Secrets book I think has more doodles per pages than any of my other books. But here you can check out. This is the doodle I did for this. So here's the world, right? And throughout the world, there's random people who are interested in your topic all around the world. And they're all congregating together in a spot, right? So for all the wrestlers in the world, they're all congregating on themat.com. All the internet marketers in one spot, all the tennis players are somewhere, all the people in health and fitness, all the people who are interested in whatever you do, cooking, cleaning, legal advice, whatever, like whatever your thing is, everyone's got a different thing, right? Whatever your thing is, all the people are there and they're all congregating on certain websites. So your job as the marketer here is not to go create traffic. You don't got to come here trying to drum up business. You go to the marketplace. This is the marketplace for your people. They're all hanging out already. Steven Larson, that I'm going to quote later in the book, we talk more about this. But he talked about, people think that the market is their dream customer. It's like, no, no, no. The market's not your dream customer. The market is where the dream customer goes. So if you wake up in the morning and... Sorry, of course somebody's always going to try to call in the middle of Facebook live, or Instagram live. Okay. I'm back. Someone tried to call, but you don't go to... The market's not a person. You go to the market. If I want to take my family and go to the market, we're the dream customers. We wake up, we drive to the market. We're there, right? Same thing. This is the market. This is where your people are all going to. So you've got to figure out where's your market. And then you, as a marketer, you go to the market and you throw in your hooks. And you grab those people and pull them into your funnels and take them through your process. And you don't know which hooks are going to work, so you have a bunch of hooks. You're throwing in different hooks in here, until you figure out, this is the hook that grabs these people, we pull them in, and then we go and we can serve them through our funnels. So that's the big secret to understand. Who's your dream customer and where are they hanging out? After I figure out where they're hanging out, then I just go figure out how do I get their attention? What do I do to throw out hooks? We talked yesterday about interruption marketing. So if I know that, hey, my dream people, they're interested in business. They're on Facebook right now. So I know I can target their interest. People interested in business, or people interested in Tony Robbins or whoever, I figure who my dream customer, what are they passionate about? You know what they're interested in, then I go to Facebook or I go to YouTube, or I go to Instagram, or wherever I'm trying to go interrupt them at, I'm like, hey, they're all hanging out here and talking about the thing. I'm going to interrupt them. I'm going to throw my hooks in there. And if I do that right... We talked about this yesterday. If I do that, I throw my hook in there, I get their attention just for a moment, just long enough that I can then tell them a story to build up the perceived value of what I have to offer. And then I offer them the thing. That's the magic, you guys. This game becomes really fun when you start understanding the principles. It's not difficult. A lot of times people think, "Oh, this is complicated or hard," or whatever. It's like, no, it's really simple. Traffic is simple when you understand, all this is really becoming super hyper clear on who your dream customer is. That's what all of chapter one here in the book is all about. Who is your dream customer? And this is number two, now that I know who they are, where are they congregating? Where are they already hanging out? Again, I'm not trying to create traffic, I'm trying to figure out where's traffic already at, where are they already congregating? Where are they already hanging out at? Where's the marketplaces that are already there? I'm going to go find those market places. I'm going to drive to them. I'm going to throw my hooks out, try to get their attention, just long enough so I can tell them a story. After I tell them a story, the golden stories that increase the perceived value of what I'm selling. And then I make them the offer. And that is the game. That is the game that we are playing. So Josh just said, "What's the advice you'd give a 24-year-old looking to get into business?" Step number one, you need to understand this business. I would go get the book, read it, master it, learn it, apply it. After you read the book, I would go find somebody else's business and work for free for them and apply these principles. Go drive traffic for them and prove that you know what you're talking about. After you've done that and you've got some success for someone, then you can go say, "Hey, I read this book. I know how to get traffic. I did traffic for this guy for free. He's blown up his business right now, even in the middle of this economic downturn, because these principles work in an up economy and a down economy." Then go and tell someone else, "I did this for somebody else. I would love to do this service for you." And start doing services initially. Okay? If you have no idea where to start, start by mastering the skills in here and do the service. I wrote the Dotcom Secrets book and people from around the world learned these processes and some applied them in their own businesses, and some who didn't know what to do yet, took these and started applying them to other people's businesses. They became funnel builders. They became things like that. We had an event last summer, called Unlock The Secret. So it was a family event. We had a lot of kids there and things like that. And one of the guys there, Noah Lens, he was, I think 12 or 13 at the time, came and spoke. He said, "I read the Dotcom Secrets book. I listen to your podcast. And I started building funnels for other people." And I asked him, I said, "How much do you charge people to build a funnel for them right now?" He said, "I used to charge $25,000 but I stopped because I had so much business." He's like, "Now, I only build funnels for equity." I was like, "You're a 13-year-old kid. And you only build funnels for equity," for crying out loud. And how did Noah do it? He read the Dotcom Secrets book and mastered the funnel building. I've got a ton of people now who have read the Expert Secrets book and mastered storytelling. And now they have agencies, helping people build stories. There are even people who read the Traffic Secrets book, they master it and start agencies. So if you don't know where to start yet, learn the principles, master them, understand them, and then do them for other people. If you have a business, learn them and master them and do them for yourself. I don't care. The principles work, whether it's your business, somebody else's, but now is the time to learn it. So, oh, someone's asking what's in the Unlock The Secrets book. You'll have to find out. I'll give you a hint. It has to do with something amazing. Just kidding. Anyway, so there's some hints about section number two here, secret number two. Trying to think if I'm going to go any deeper today. Who's your dream customer? Where are they hiding? Yeah. I'll go deeper tomorrow into, yeah... These chapters are long. There's a lot of cool stuff. I've got tons of doodles, as you can see in here. So I will wrap it for today. Tomorrow we're going to start talking about... Now, so who's your dream customer? Where are they congregating? Tomorrow, we're going to get into the next concept, which is called, The Dream 100. And some of you guys think you know what that means, I'm going to tell you what it actually means. And we're going to walk through that tomorrow. So it'll be fun. Anyway, if you guys don't have a copy of your book yet, it is time. They're flying off the shelves. They're free, you just cover the shipping and handling, trafficsecrets.com, and you can go get it. And on top of that, there's a bunch of amazing, insane bonuses. In fact, I wish I could scroll down on my computer back here. If you scroll down, there's some crazy bonuses. There's an hour-long presentation. I did funnel hacking live, teaching about traffic secrets. You can get that immediately and start watching it. There's a video there from prince EA, the man, who's had over three billion views on his videos, his presentation is one of the bonuses there, to help show you how to make videos that go viral. Peng Joon who did a presentation at Funnel Hacking Live about how he spends a weekend and builds all of... He has a process, he spends a weekend, he records a bunch of videos and that is all of the assets he uses to drive traffic from every platform. His presentation's in there, a bunch of other bonus... I think like four or five hours of bonus presentations you get immediately, the second you get the book, I could easily sell each of those for 97 bucks by themselves. But you get them for free when you get the book for free. So it's like, if you hate free then don't get the book. But if you like free, you should go to trafficsecrets.com and get your copy of the book. And then for any of you guys who are like, "I want to get this into my head today. I'm sitting around, I'm bored." The audio book, this book doesn't ship till May 5th because we're going through an amazing publisher, Hay House, and the pub date... For anyone who's ever written a book, there's a pub date, pub date is May 5th. Two days ago, March 17th was the day I was first allowed to talk about this and start doing pre-orders. And May 5th is the day it ships. So we're in pre-order phase right now. But the good news is I spent three days in a studio reading this entire book and the audio book is available right now. So you can go and get it today. It is the order form bumps. So when you get the free book, if you want to upgrade you can get the audio book and start listening to it right now, and you can dump all this info into your brain without waiting any longer. So anyway, that's kind of fun. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this. For those of you guys who are in quarantine, go get this stuff, and you got something to study with your wife and your kids and your family, your spouse, your significant other, whatever it is, your business partners. You can go start watching stuff right now and start understanding these principles. Now there's this weird time where the nation and the world is all pausing for a second. And you can pause and go Netflix and chill, or you can stop and use this time to get this information into your brain so you can master it so that when the economy, we have this chance to go start... Going full out again in the economy, you'll be able to succeed. So now is the time you guys. Someone said, "Do you think that the book is free?" Yeah. So my hard costs on these books is a lot. I paid for the entire hard cost. I have to pay a shipping house to ship them. So there's people that take them, they put them in a box, they put the postings, and the postman takes these things, they do the process and then some guy walks to your house and hand delivers it. So you've got to cover those costs. I cover the cost for printing this book. I paid for it. It is a big book, 327 pages. So I paid for that. You do have to pay for the shipping though, because I'm not going to do everything for you. If you're not willing to pay for someone to come hand deliver it to your house, it's not going to be the right business for you. You are going to struggle in all things in life, especially running a business. But if you want to pay 10 bucks to get this thing hand delivered to your house from the US postal office, there you go. All you got to do is go to trafficsecrets.com and get your copy now. Anyway, with that said, you guys, I appreciate you all. Thank you so much for everything. You guys are awesome. And I'm having so much fun sharing these traffic secrets with you guys. Now is the time to double down, master the skill, learn it, understand it for yourself, for other people's business, whatever it is. This is a skill set. If you master this and understand it and learn it, it'll serve you for the rest of your life, no matter what business you are in. We always say that the people that can drive traffic in a business are the rain makers. They can make it rain. If you can make it rain, you can write your own paycheck for the rest of your life. Whether it be your own business and you go in there and you make it rain for your own business, or you do it for other people's businesses. The rain makers are the ones who can do anything. They set their own paychecks. They negotiate. The person who can come into business and say, "Hey, your business is struggling. I can turn on the rain." And like, well how much does it cost? I just want 20% of your business. Ah, I can't do that. Well, you're going to go under otherwise. Okay, well, make it rain. You can make it rain. And you get equity in companies like... This skillset will be the most valuable thing you can learn. And you're getting it for $10 of shipping and handling. This is 15 years of my life work, about everything I know about how to get traffic. And it's all here for you guys today. So anyway, I appreciate you guys. Go to trafficsecrets.com and get it. Oh and if you want, and again, the order form bump, you can get the audio book, start listening today. The upsell is this entire huge box set, where if you want, you can get the Dotcom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets book, and the Unlock the Secrets Workbook to go with it. For those who don't already know, Dotcom Secrets is the first book I wrote. This is in fact, if you look at the... Oh, subtitles, I'm going to do subtitles because they help you understand how they all work together. Dotcom Secrets is the underground playbook for growing your company online with sales funnels. This is the new updated hardbound version. It's almost twice as big as the original version and the only place to get the hardbound version right now is as the upsell at trafficsecrets.com. Number two is Expert Secrets, which is the underground playbook for converting your online visitors into lifelong customers. So this one's how to build funnels, this is how to communicate to people when they come to your funnels. You notice on all my pages there's videos, there's presentations, there's things that are happening, there's ads that are happening, like, how do you communicate? How do you use persuasion? How do you master story selling and things like that. That's what this book's all about. Number two, this is not about how you get on stage and speak for a million people. This is about how to master your message and putting it on your online platform, AKA your funnels. So how to build the funnels, how to communicate inside the funnels. And then number three here is how to get traffic or people into those funnels, into said funnels. So these three work hand in hand to help you to grow your company. Which one's my favorite? They're all my favorite. I bled, blood, sweat and tears to get these to you. This is 16, 17 years of my life work all put into here. And then Unlock The Secrets is your underground playbook for scaling your company to the two comma club and beyond. This is a workbook that'll go with the other book. So as you are going through Dotcom Secrets, you're going to be filling out the blanks and getting all the stuff here. As you're going through Expert Secrets, you're going to be filling out the blanks and this will become your workbook for your business. So as you're learning these concepts and these principles, this becomes where you document and you write them down, your thoughts, your ideas, and this will become your playbook for you to be able to go and dominate and take over the world, whatever world it is that you are serving in your business, your people. So there you go. There's the box set. And again, these ship May 5th, but you can pre-order right now a trafficsecrets.com to get the book. The only way you get the box set right now is the upsell inside of the book. So go to trafficsecrets.com, get the book, upgrade to the secrets box, all this entire thing will ship May 5th. But the audio book's available now, plus there's an insane bonuses, there's like five hours of video bonuses just when you get the book and a bunch of other cool things. So now is the time my friends... Yeah, you can get the audio book. Yeah, since I prefer audio, I listen to... Yes, you can get the audio book right now. But you got to go to trafficsecrets.com to get it. All right guys, that's all I got for today. I'll be back tomorrow to share with you guys more from secret number two, which is all about the dream 100, which is the next step in this process. So thanks you guys. Appreciate you all. Have an amazing day, and we'll talk soon everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Enjoy another episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast.

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What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Hopefully you guys are all doing good today. We are in the next day of our Traffic Secrets Launch, talking about traffic secrets, and the book, and how you traffic to your funnels and a bunch of other amazing things. I hope you guys enjoyed the last few days. We've had a fun time to go through some of the things in the books and the concepts. So far, well over 10,000 of you guys have ordered the book, which is amazing. I think it's 3,000 or 4,000 of you guys have bought the audio book, which is the upsell order form bumps, which I'm super grateful for, because I spent three days in lockdown in a recording studio recording that for you guys. So thank you for making that time not a waste of my time and energy.

It was crazy. For those who've never done an audio book, you literally have headphones on, and you're reading the book and there's someone listening to everything. And if you mess up, you have to stop, and then you go back, and you just go again, and if you mess up, you stop. I did all three books over seven days. It was a nightmare, being stuck in little spot like this, and you can't move while you're talking, and you can't mess up and you have to keep your energy high for eight hours a day. It's really, really hard. But there were over 6,700 cuts where I messed up and we had to go back and fix, and fix, and fix, and fix.

To read all three of these books, Dotcom, Expert and Traffic.

So anyway, I've got a dozen or so of you guys messaged me saying you listened to the entire audio book already, which is crazy. It took me three days to read and you listened to it in a day, which is, I don't know, makes me happy. Also, people said the hard thing is that they can't listen in 2X speed because it's already at 8X speed because that's how you get Russell Brunson. I only come in 8X speed, I don't come any slower than that. Anyway, which is kind of fun though. But anyway, the Traffic Secrets audio book is the order form bump. And then, by the way, I don't know, probably 200 of you guys have messaged me on Instagram like, "How do I get the box set?"

Okay. When you buy the book, you go buy the Traffic Secrets book and the upsell's like, "Hey, do you want the entire Secrets trilogy?" And if you say, yes, then we'll ship the whole thing on May 5th. If you say no, then you don't get the whole thing. Anyway, so that's kind of there. And the other thing is that one of the upsells is the audio books for all three, so if you want to geek out during this quarantine time and listen to all three of the audio books, that may be an opportunity, but you got to go check out the funnel to even know.

So, if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you'll get a free copy of the Traffic Secrets book, the order form bump is like, "Do you want the audio?" You're like, "Yes, I want the audio book." Boom, you got the audio book. Next upsell's like, "Hey, do you want the entire box set?" Because you'd be crazy not too. And you're like, "Yeah, I want the box set." And you say, "Yes." And it's like, "Do you also want the audio book for the box set?" And you're like, "Yes." So, that's how it works.

Anyway, I hope you guys enjoy the funnel. I always hope people buy slowly because it's fun to go through the process and see what we did. All right, so today, hopefully this works a little better. Yesterday my Instagram was muffled, so hopefully you guys can hear me. And then my Facebook/YouTube video camera crashed nine minutes in because somebody tried to call me. So I've locked down all these things, this is my own personal studio out of my quarantine, trying to make sure this is all going to work for you guys. Hopefully it's working today, hopefully you guys can hear me, hopefully nobody calls through. I try to block everybody, and we can just hang out and have some fun. This video behind me is trafficsecrets.com. If you're like, "What is that? What are you saying on that video, Russell?" You can just click on that button and you can watch it.

So anyway, everyone said, "Where do I go buy..." I literally just said you get the entire box. So the only way to get the box right now is you go to trafficsecrets.com. You buy the book. And I say, buy loosely because it's free, use just cover shipping and handling. So it's 9.95 US or 19.95 international. And these ship on May 5th. So there's a little bit of delay because the way the publishers work is you... Yeah. The way the publisher works, the publishing date is May 5th, but we had to roll it out earlier. Anyway, it's a long story, but the books, that's where you get the book. And then the audio book, you can get immediate access to. So you can listen to it today. And then the box set is the first upsell. So if you want to upgrade to the box set, which I highly recommend because this is my life work.

Is this crazy? People say sometimes, "This is my life's work." Like literally, this is my life's work. It's all here. It's in the Dot Com Secrets book. It's all my life's work about how to build funnels. This is the new hardbound updated version. There's over 30,000 new words in this. Actually it's more than that. This book started at 58,000 words. I ended deleting... I deleted probably 20, 25, 30,000 words and ended up over 90,000. Expert Secret, same thing. This one started at 60,000, I think I deleted 20 something thousand words. And then it ended up being over 90... Almost, I think this one was almost 90,000, and Traffic Secrets is like 94,000. So this is my life work. It's updated. They all work together. When you get these, I would highly recommend going over it. I would listen DotCom Secrets first, then Expert, then Traffic.

If you've read these in the past, they've all been updated. They're all new. This is five years worth of experience re-woven back into the book, that's... Anyway. So there you go. There's a pitch for the box said, but it's going to be awesome. So today what I want to do, I'm going to go back through Traffic Secrets. All right, Traffic Secrets. And we're going to go dive deeper. So I've been reading parts of this and telling you stories from this book over the last couple days. I'm going to keep... Hopefully you guys are enjoying this. If you're liking this, let me know in the comments down below. I'm enjoying doing it and I'm going to keep doing it if you guys like. Unless you're like, "This is horrible, Russell, I just want the book or the audio book," I can stop, but I'm enjoying this. I'm in quarantine anyway.

So might as well hang out with my friends, talking about my new book. So if you go through this, the first video, I talked about the preface, preface, I don't know know how you say that. And I talked about how there's a storm coming and it is crazy. I started writing this book two years ago, I would've never known that we would have launched this in the middle of this epidemic where we're all staying at home. We're all quarantined, and businesses are failing left and right, right now because of just... Anyway. I'm not going to go too deep into it, but it's a scary, scary time. And your ability to get customers in the door, not just crappy customers, but your dream customers, has everything to do with your business, if it survives, or if it doesn't. This is literally your life preserver.

I'm throwing it to you right now for you to master because this is going to keep fuel, traffic, people coming into your business right now. And in a couple months from now, when the quarantines lifting and things are shifted, it'll give you the ability to thrive, to regrow your business. All the things happen, but this is this nice moment you have to go there and master these principles and really understand them. So literally, the introduction's called There's A Storm Coming, and now we're in the middle of the storm. So not going to say I'm calling my shot or calling the future, but anyway, just kidding. All right, so that was the first day. And then we did the book launch and then that day I talked about chapter one, who is your dream customer? We talked about away from pleasure towards pain, no away from pain towards pleasure.

Then yesterday we started talking about the searcher and the scroller, understand the two differences of your dream customer, right? Are they searching or are they scrolling, and which networks are different, right? Think about searching how it's like Google, YouTube, Quora, all the search platforms, and the social platforms, you're doing interruption marketing, like Facebook, Instagram, also YouTube, YouTube, both, which is kind of fun. I went into that. Understand the differences because the way we structure our funnels and our ads are different based on if it's interruption versus search.

And now today, we're moving into secret number two, where are they hiding? What, where are who hiding? Okay. So if secret number one's all about figuring out who is your dream customer, secret number two is figuring out where are these people actually congregating? Where are they hiding? Where are they at online? And so that's what I'm going to kind of go into here to talk about. And I'm going to read part, you guys care if I read a little bit of this?

I don't know. I don't have to. If you want me to read it, be in comments like "Read it, Russell, read some of a book." Because I could tell you the story, but I already wrote it so might as well... Okay. I'm going to read part of it. Here we go. Secret number two, where are they hiding? One day in college, I knew I was supposed to be doing homework, but my ADHD in mind couldn't take it anymore. I had to stop writing even if it was just for a few minutes, I looked around and made sure no one else was looking, and then opened up a new tab on my browser. I started typing www.themat.com. And then within seconds I was taken to a new universe, a universe occupied by hundreds of thousands of wrestlers, just like me all around the world. This was our playground where we could talk about wrestling, post pictures and videos and debate about who was going to win every match happening in the next big tournament.

I read a few articles and watched a video showing a new way to finish a single leg take down. Afterwards, I went to the forums. Oh, how I loved the forums. Who's better, Dan Gable in his prime or Cael Sanderson now? Somebody had just posted. Of course I had an opinion and it took everything I had to not spend the next 90 minutes writing my thoughtful response about how, if we shrunk Cael down to Dan's size and took him in the time machine, back to the 70s, Cael would've destroyed Dan head to head, but I knew I couldn't.

My paper was due the next day and I was locked away in study hall until it was done. Angrily I closed down the tab and sat back in my chair to stretch before I made the trip back to reality. As I was leaning back, I started looking at my other wrestling friends who were locked away in study hall with me because of our bad grades. As I glanced towards our 133 pounder, I noticed a smile on his face, what? What could he be smiling about in study hall? As I shifted my gaze from his face to his monitor, I saw it. He was also on themat.com and he was writing his comments on why he thought Dan would actually beat Cael. Then looking at the other wrestlers in the room, I decided I had to know what they were doing. Faking like I had to go to the bathroom, I stood up and started to walk past their desks.

I looked at our 157 pounder screen, yep, he was looking at themat.com too, the 178 pounder, themat.com. But what about our heavyweight? He had to be actually doing his homework, right? Nope. He was also on themat.com. And as I passed his computer, I quickly read his form reply that Bruce Baumgartner, two time Olympic heavyweight champ and four time Olympic medalist, would beat both Dan and Cael at the same time. What? Was he crazy? There's no way that Cael would lose to Bruce. And that's when it hit me.

Themat.com was our little corner of the internet. All the wrestlers in study hall were congregated on that website talking about wrestling, but we weren't the only ones. Wrestlers in other colleges across the country, along with high school wrestlers and their parents, were on the website too. All around the world, hundreds of thousands of people were all together in this one spot to talk about the topic that we love most, wrestling. Honestly, this is the real power of the internet. It has allowed us to connect with like-minded people in a way that wasn't possible before. It allowed each of us with our unique and sometimes weird hobbies and interests to congregate with our people to discuss the things that meant the most to us.

I'm going to stop. What do you guys think? Does that get you excited? Ah! Oh man, it's so much fun. I have a lot of stories in this book about that, but that is the power of congregation. So you guys have to understand. In secret number one we already identified who is our dream customer. And in the book, I go through a bunch of exercises to go deep into that. After you know who they are, then you've got to figure out where are these people hanging out? That's the real power of the internet. We figure out who our dream customer are. We figure out where they're congregating, and our job to figure out, hey, here they are. Here's all the wrestlers in the world that are on these websites. If you're in fitness, here's all the fitness people are reading these blogs.

They're on these email newsletters. They're following this person on Instagram, this person on Facebook. Or if you're into cooking, where are the people interested in cooking? Where are they already congregating? Our job as marketers is not to go generate traffic. People are always like, "I need to create traffic." No, you don't need to create traffic. Traffic's already there. People are already there. They're already congregating based on what they're interested in. Your job is to figure out where are those congregations? And I need to come out there and I got to throw out my hooks in those congregations. So if I figure out there's 100,000 wrestlers here, I'm selling wrestling products. What do I do? I come over to that congregation, I throw a hook in and I try to grab those people out of that...

In fact, I have a cool image. You guys want to see a cool image that I doodled? I'm a doodler. So that's what I do. In fact, the Traffic Secrets book I think has more doodles per pages than any of my other books. But here you can check out. This is the doodle I did for this. So here's the world, right? And throughout the world, there's random people who are interested in your topic all around the world. And they're all congregating together in a spot, right? So for all the wrestlers in the world, they're all congregating on themat.com. All the internet marketers in one spot, all the tennis players are somewhere, all the people in health and fitness, all the people who are interested in whatever you do, cooking, cleaning, legal advice, whatever, like whatever your thing is, everyone's got a different thing, right?

Whatever your thing is, all the people are there and they're all congregating on certain websites. So your job as the marketer here is not to go create traffic. You don't got to come here trying to drum up business. You go to the marketplace. This is the marketplace for your people. They're all hanging out already. Steven Larson, that I'm going to quote later in the book, we talk more about this. But he talked about, people think that the market is their dream customer. It's like, no, no, no. The market's not your dream customer. The market is where the dream customer goes. So if you wake up in the morning and... Sorry, of course somebody's always going to try to call in the middle of Facebook live, or Instagram live. Okay. I'm back. Someone tried to call, but you don't go to... The market's not a person.

You go to the market. If I want to take my family and go to the market, we're the dream customers. We wake up, we drive to the market. We're there, right? Same thing. This is the market. This is where your people are all going to. So you've got to figure out where's your market. And then you, as a marketer, you go to the market and you throw in your hooks. And you grab those people and pull them into your funnels and take them through your process. And you don't know which hooks are going to work, so you have a bunch of hooks. You're throwing in different hooks in here, until you figure out, this is the hook that grabs these people, we pull them in, and then we go and we can serve them through our funnels. So that's the big secret to understand. Who's your dream customer and where are they hanging out?

After I figure out where they're hanging out, then I just go figure out how do I get their attention? What do I do to throw out hooks? We talked yesterday about interruption marketing. So if I know that, hey, my dream people, they're interested in business. They're on Facebook right now. So I know I can target their interest. People interested in business, or people interested in Tony Robbins or whoever, I figure who my dream customer, what are they passionate about? You know what they're interested in, then I go to Facebook or I go to YouTube, or I go to Instagram, or wherever I'm trying to go interrupt them at, I'm like, hey, they're all hanging out here and talking about the thing. I'm going to interrupt them. I'm going to throw my hooks in there. And if I do that right... We talked about this yesterday.

If I do that, I throw my hook in there, I get their attention just for a moment, just long enough that I can then tell them a story to build up the perceived value of what I have to offer. And then I offer them the thing. That's the magic, you guys. This game becomes really fun when you start understanding the principles. It's not difficult. A lot of times people think, "Oh, this is complicated or hard," or whatever. It's like, no, it's really simple. Traffic is simple when you understand, all this is really becoming super hyper clear on who your dream customer is. That's what all of chapter one here in the book is all about. Who is your dream customer? And this is number two, now that I know who they are, where are they congregating? Where are they already hanging out? Again, I'm not trying to create traffic, I'm trying to figure out where's traffic already at, where are they already congregating? Where are they already hanging out at?

Where's the marketplaces that are already there? I'm going to go find those market places. I'm going to drive to them. I'm going to throw my hooks out, try to get their attention, just long enough so I can tell them a story. After I tell them a story, the golden stories that increase the perceived value of what I'm selling. And then I make them the offer. And that is the game. That is the game that we are playing. So Josh just said, "What's the advice you'd give a 24-year-old looking to get into business?" Step number one, you need to understand this business. I would go get the book, read it, master it, learn it, apply it. After you read the book, I would go find somebody else's business and work for free for them and apply these principles.

Go drive traffic for them and prove that you know what you're talking about. After you've done that and you've got some success for someone, then you can go say, "Hey, I read this book. I know how to get traffic. I did traffic for this guy for free. He's blown up his business right now, even in the middle of this economic downturn, because these principles work in an up economy and a down economy." Then go and tell someone else, "I did this for somebody else. I would love to do this service for you." And start doing services initially. Okay? If you have no idea where to start, start by mastering the skills in here and do the service. I wrote the Dotcom Secrets book and people from around the world learned these processes and some applied them in their own businesses, and some who didn't know what to do yet, took these and started applying them to other people's businesses.

They became funnel builders. They became things like that. We had an event last summer, called Unlock The Secret. So it was a family event. We had a lot of kids there and things like that. And one of the guys there, Noah Lens, he was, I think 12 or 13 at the time, came and spoke. He said, "I read the Dotcom Secrets book. I listen to your podcast. And I started building funnels for other people." And I asked him, I said, "How much do you charge people to build a funnel for them right now?" He said, "I used to charge $25,000 but I stopped because I had so much business." He's like, "Now, I only build funnels for equity." I was like, "You're a 13-year-old kid. And you only build funnels for equity," for crying out loud.

And how did Noah do it? He read the Dotcom Secrets book and mastered the funnel building. I've got a ton of people now who have read the Expert Secrets book and mastered storytelling. And now they have agencies, helping people build stories. There are even people who read the Traffic Secrets book, they master it and start agencies. So if you don't know where to start yet, learn the principles, master them, understand them, and then do them for other people. If you have a business, learn them and master them and do them for yourself. I don't care. The principles work, whether it's your business, somebody else's, but now is the time to learn it. So, oh, someone's asking what's in the Unlock The Secrets book. You'll have to find out. I'll give you a hint. It has to do with something amazing. Just kidding. Anyway, so there's some hints about section number two here, secret number two.

Trying to think if I'm going to go any deeper today. Who's your dream customer? Where are they hiding? Yeah. I'll go deeper tomorrow into, yeah... These chapters are long. There's a lot of cool stuff. I've got tons of doodles, as you can see in here. So I will wrap it for today. Tomorrow we're going to start talking about... Now, so who's your dream customer? Where are they congregating? Tomorrow, we're going to get into the next concept, which is called, The Dream 100. And some of you guys think you know what that means, I'm going to tell you what it actually means. And we're going to walk through that tomorrow. So it'll be fun. Anyway, if you guys don't have a copy of your book yet, it is time. They're flying off the shelves. They're free, you just cover the shipping and handling, trafficsecrets.com, and you can go get it. And on top of that, there's a bunch of amazing, insane bonuses.

In fact, I wish I could scroll down on my computer back here. If you scroll down, there's some crazy bonuses. There's an hour-long presentation. I did funnel hacking live, teaching about traffic secrets. You can get that immediately and start watching it. There's a video there from prince EA, the man, who's had over three billion views on his videos, his presentation is one of the bonuses there, to help show you how to make videos that go viral.

Peng Joon who did a presentation at Funnel Hacking Live about how he spends a weekend and builds all of... He has a process, he spends a weekend, he records a bunch of videos and that is all of the assets he uses to drive traffic from every platform. His presentation's in there, a bunch of other bonus... I think like four or five hours of bonus presentations you get immediately, the second you get the book, I could easily sell each of those for 97 bucks by themselves. But you get them for free when you get the book for free.

So it's like, if you hate free then don't get the book. But if you like free, you should go to trafficsecrets.com and get your copy of the book. And then for any of you guys who are like, "I want to get this into my head today. I'm sitting around, I'm bored." The audio book, this book doesn't ship till May 5th because we're going through an amazing publisher, Hay House, and the pub date... For anyone who's ever written a book, there's a pub date, pub date is May 5th. Two days ago, March 17th was the day I was first allowed to talk about this and start doing pre-orders. And May 5th is the day it ships. So we're in pre-order phase right now. But the good news is I spent three days in a studio reading this entire book and the audio book is available right now.

So you can go and get it today. It is the order form bumps. So when you get the free book, if you want to upgrade you can get the audio book and start listening to it right now, and you can dump all this info into your brain without waiting any longer. So anyway, that's kind of fun.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this. For those of you guys who are in quarantine, go get this stuff, and you got something to study with your wife and your kids and your family, your spouse, your significant other, whatever it is, your business partners. You can go start watching stuff right now and start understanding these principles. Now there's this weird time where the nation and the world is all pausing for a second. And you can pause and go Netflix and chill, or you can stop and use this time to get this information into your brain so you can master it so that when the economy, we have this chance to go start... Going full out again in the economy, you'll be able to succeed.

So now is the time you guys. Someone said, "Do you think that the book is free?" Yeah. So my hard costs on these books is a lot. I paid for the entire hard cost. I have to pay a shipping house to ship them. So there's people that take them, they put them in a box, they put the postings, and the postman takes these things, they do the process and then some guy walks to your house and hand delivers it. So you've got to cover those costs. I cover the cost for printing this book. I paid for it. It is a big book, 327 pages. So I paid for that. You do have to pay for the shipping though, because I'm not going to do everything for you. If you're not willing to pay for someone to come hand deliver it to your house, it's not going to be the right business for you.

You are going to struggle in all things in life, especially running a business. But if you want to pay 10 bucks to get this thing hand delivered to your house from the US postal office, there you go. All you got to do is go to trafficsecrets.com and get your copy now. Anyway, with that said, you guys, I appreciate you all. Thank you so much for everything. You guys are awesome. And I'm having so much fun sharing these traffic secrets with you guys. Now is the time to double down, master the skill, learn it, understand it for yourself, for other people's business, whatever it is. This is a skill set. If you master this and understand it and learn it, it'll serve you for the rest of your life, no matter what business you are in. We always say that the people that can drive traffic in a business are the rain makers.

They can make it rain. If you can make it rain, you can write your own paycheck for the rest of your life. Whether it be your own business and you go in there and you make it rain for your own business, or you do it for other people's businesses. The rain makers are the ones who can do anything. They set their own paychecks. They negotiate. The person who can come into business and say, "Hey, your business is struggling. I can turn on the rain." And like, well how much does it cost? I just want 20% of your business. Ah, I can't do that. Well, you're going to go under otherwise. Okay, well, make it rain. You can make it rain. And you get equity in companies like... This skillset will be the most valuable thing you can learn. And you're getting it for $10 of shipping and handling.

This is 15 years of my life work, about everything I know about how to get traffic. And it's all here for you guys today. So anyway, I appreciate you guys. Go to trafficsecrets.com and get it. Oh and if you want, and again, the order form bump, you can get the audio book, start listening today. The upsell is this entire huge box set, where if you want, you can get the Dotcom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets book, and the Unlock the Secrets Workbook to go with it. For those who don't already know, Dotcom Secrets is the first book I wrote. This is in fact, if you look at the... Oh, subtitles, I'm going to do subtitles because they help you understand how they all work together. Dotcom Secrets is the underground playbook for growing your company online with sales funnels. This is the new updated hardbound version.

It's almost twice as big as the original version and the only place to get the hardbound version right now is as the upsell at trafficsecrets.com. Number two is Expert Secrets, which is the underground playbook for converting your online visitors into lifelong customers. So this one's how to build funnels, this is how to communicate to people when they come to your funnels. You notice on all my pages there's videos, there's presentations, there's things that are happening, there's ads that are happening, like, how do you communicate? How do you use persuasion? How do you master story selling and things like that. That's what this book's all about. Number two, this is not about how you get on stage and speak for a million people. This is about how to master your message and putting it on your online platform, AKA your funnels. So how to build the funnels, how to communicate inside the funnels.

And then number three here is how to get traffic or people into those funnels, into said funnels. So these three work hand in hand to help you to grow your company. Which one's my favorite? They're all my favorite. I bled, blood, sweat and tears to get these to you. This is 16, 17 years of my life work all put into here. And then Unlock The Secrets is your underground playbook for scaling your company to the two comma club and beyond. This is a workbook that'll go with the other book. So as you are going through Dotcom Secrets, you're going to be filling out the blanks and getting all the stuff here. As you're going through Expert Secrets, you're going to be filling out the blanks and this will become your workbook for your business. So as you're learning these concepts and these principles, this becomes where you document and you write them down, your thoughts, your ideas, and this will become your playbook for you to be able to go and dominate and take over the world, whatever world it is that you are serving in your business, your people.

So there you go. There's the box set. And again, these ship May 5th, but you can pre-order right now a trafficsecrets.com to get the book. The only way you get the box set right now is the upsell inside of the book. So go to trafficsecrets.com, get the book, upgrade to the secrets box, all this entire thing will ship May 5th. But the audio book's available now, plus there's an insane bonuses, there's like five hours of video bonuses just when you get the book and a bunch of other cool things.

So now is the time my friends... Yeah, you can get the audio book. Yeah, since I prefer audio, I listen to... Yes, you can get the audio book right now. But you got to go to trafficsecrets.com to get it.

All right guys, that's all I got for today. I'll be back tomorrow to share with you guys more from secret number two, which is all about the dream 100, which is the next step in this process. So thanks you guys. Appreciate you all. Have an amazing day, and we'll talk soon everybody.

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]]> 1620 no TWO Types Of People Online - Traffic Secrets Revisited! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/two-types-of-people-online-traffic-secrets-revisited Welcome to the first episode in this special 8 part series. With Russell being incredibly busy preparing for Funnel Hacking Live, he decided to share some of the traffic tips that he released last year during the "Traffic Secrets" book launch. On this episode, Russell reveals the CRITICAL difference between the "Searcher" vs. the "Scroller". You'll learn: How to craft your funnel for BOTH types. Why interruption marketing is so powerful (and how to correctly use it). Why you must HOOK your audience before you tell your story or make your offer. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, I've got a special treat for you guys over the next 30 days. One of the biggest requests I get people wanting to know more about traffic, which is one of the reasons why I wrote a whole book called Traffic Secrets, which if you don't have go to trafficsecrets.com and get it, what are you waiting for? Do you hate money that bad? Anyway, so what I wanted to do over the next couple of weeks because I've been slammed recently with obviously Funnel Hacking live is happening in less than a week from the time I'm recording this. We've also got inner circles relaunching we've got a whole bunch of other crazy things, like a bunch of there's lots happening. And so I thought it would be fun I think for you guys to get more traffic stuff and also take a little weight off my shoulders for the next couple of weeks is to give you guys access to eight episodes of me talking about traffic. Now, this is something that I actually recorded during the pandemic when I was in the book launch. So I had a chance to go deep on a whole bunch of topics from the Traffic Secrets book. And so I want to share those with you guys over the next couple of weeks. So that's kind of the game plan. If you want, I would highly recommend getting the Traffic Secrets book and reading along as we go through the next eight episodes or so because I'm going to be going deep into each of the sections and the chapters and talking about all the principles, all the things you guys got to do to get more traffic into your funnels. So I hope you enjoy the next few weeks, hope you enjoy the Traffic Secrets episodes. If you guys want more info about traffic, of course go get the book. On top of that we also have a Traffic Secrets podcast. These episodes are from that podcast. So hopefully you get addicted and make you want to go subscribe to that podcast as well. Thanks again you guys. I appreciate you for listening and I hope you enjoy the next eight episodes. What's up everybody this is Russell. Welcome back to we're at day number three. Day number three of the Traffic Secret series. I'm going live every single day for the next, I don't know, we're in quarantine. Well as long as we want, as long as you're having fun, we'll keep doing this. So if you are having fun, please let me know down in the comments, be like, this is fun, Russell. We should do this more often. Or if you're like, I have better things to do with my day than sit in quarantine and listen to Russell talk about traffic. Well let me know in the comments down below if you're having fun because so far I'm enjoying this and I'm not going to lie, it gives me a little bit of break from all the other distresses of all the stuff we do. So I'm enjoying it. And hopefully you guys are having some fun as well. As you guys know, oh, let me pull this over here so you can see inside the screen. We are on day number two, actually it has been in 26 minutes it'll have been 24 hours that the book Funnel has been live. And why do you guys, since you're all my marketing nerds who like to hang out and talk marketing with me, The Funnel is doing insanely well. We are just shy of 10,000 copies. So I was trying to get 10,000 copies in the first 24 hours. It'll probably be 25 maybe 26 hours before we hit it. But that's still pretty dang good. To put that in perspective, the average New York Times bestselling book only sells 10,000 copies the first week. So we are 10,000 copies in less than 24 hours which means this must be a book you guys are interested in. It must be a topic you are interested in. It's probably the most timely thing ever. It's interesting when I started this project two years ago, not knowing when this was going to go live, not knowing the circumstances. And now with, depending on if you're watching this live or later, we are in day two or three of quarantine here. The coronavirus is just crazy and businesses are freaking out and people are struggling. And a lot of companies are shutting their doors. And right now the thing I think that people need more than anything is traffic, it's people. How do you get your dream customers, the right people to come to your door so you can help them and you can serve them. And so that's what this whole book's about. So my goal is hopefully you guys all get a copy. Again, these don't ship until May 5th but the audio books are there now. In fact 36% of you guys are buying the audio books. So thank you for that but it gives you a chance to go and start listening to it immediately. But then I'm going live free here and I'm just going to basically share stuff in the book. So if you want to see some of the old episodes on Facebook, they are there. Other places, YouTube we got them there as well. But basically I'm going through the book and talking about it. So today I'm going to dive back in. You guys want some more insights from the book that will hopefully help you out in whatever part of the journey you're in right now? Hopefully you do. And as you're reading this, you're like, all right, fine Russell, you pushed me over the edge. I'm finally ready to get the book you've been talking about for two years, just go to trafficsecrets.com, you'll see The Funnel. And I would recommend going through the funnel slow. This is the highest converting funnel I've ever done. And I've been doing this game for 15 years now. So this was 15 years of like me testing and trying a bunch of things. And this is the, I talked about funnel hacking. I said, you can go through, get all the arrows in the back, try to figure your way out or see where people where they're at today in their model. So right now this is where my funnel is at and it's killing it. Excuse me. We're averaging 80, almost $80 for every free book we give away inside the funnel. So it's working, it's good. Anyway, so that's the game plan. You guys ready to jump into this so we have some fun? I love it. All right, okay. I'm going to go. So here we go. I'm going to open up the box set. Some of you guys yesterday on the live everyone's was like, where did I get the box set? And I'm like the only way you can see the box set is an upsell. So you've got to buy the book and then the upsell is like, hey, do you want all the books? All new hardbound copies and the workbook and everything. So that's the only way to get it is after you go to chaptersecrets.com and get your free copy of the book. I think it's $10 shipping handling US for the hard bound. And then it's like 19.85 I think international. And these will be shipping May 5th. This is a pre-launch, May 5th these will start shipping but the audio books that I recorded myself in a studio for three days are available beginning today. And yeah, so there you go. Plus all the other bonuses, there's five insane bonuses you guys get with the book as well. Usually they sell each of those for 97 bucks as a standalone product. You get them for free when you buy the book for free. So if you like free then you should get a copy of the book. All right, with that said, I'm going to go in here. So the first day I talked about, I just read some stuff from the intro which was all about basically a storm coming, which is interesting now that we're in like the middle of the storm. But there's a storm coming, traffic shifting everything's different and you got prepared. I was lucky enough and blessed enough when I started learning traffic it wasn't when Facebook Ads were here. And I was trying to figure out how to run Facebook Ads. I was learning this stuff before Facebook, before Myspace, before Friendster, I was learning how to drive traffic from some of the original OGs of direct response marketing. I was learning direct mail, radio, postcards, things like that. And as you apply these principles to the internet, it's really, really powerful. So if Facebook shuts down, or your ads account is banned or Google changes, this book is like, here's how to have a stable foundation to get traffic even in those times. I've been lucky to now have been doing this for 15 years. And I've been through a couple of market grows, a couple market crashes and I've seen networks come and go, Google Slaps, Facebook Snaps, a whole bunch of stuff. What is interesting is that we've not only survived in the times, we've thrived is because of the foundational principles you're going to learn here inside of Traffic Secrets. So talking about a storm coming. That struggle in chapter one, your dream customer. Shared some cool stories from this yesterday. I'm not going to go back into it but the whole key is becoming obsessed with your dream customer and the better you understand them, you understand what are they doing to move towards pleasure away from pain. It makes it so much easier to find them. So today we're what we're going to talk about are two things called the searcher and the scroller. When you have your book, if you go to page 25, as I start talking about these concepts of the searcher and the scroller, I think I got some doodles in here. Yeah, I got some doodles in here. So for those who are like me, like the doodles, there is the searcher and there's the scroller. Now it's important to understands a lot of people think that traffic is just traffic. Oh, I just need to figure how to get more traffic. And so that's kind of all they're looking for. But you got to understand that people's habits are different. And so there's a searcher and there's the scroller. And what's interesting if you look at how business started back in the early 1800s, when did people buy something? They had a need for it. So like, oh, I need a hammer. They would jump in the car, drive to the grocery store and they would go buy a hammer. They're searching for something. Now, when you're searching, you know what you're looking for. I need this thing to solve this problem, this thing. And so you're searching for it and you go look for it and you buy it and you come back. And for a long time, that's how business happened. Back in the early 1800s, early 1900s was a hundred percent of commerce happened through searching. Someone needed something and they went in search for it. The yellow pages came, they searched through yellow pages, find the business that had the thing they needed. Oh I need a plumber, find the person, they'd search for him and they can go and get him. So what was nice for consumers is I could go search, I could find things I wanted. But as a business owner it was tough because I couldn't go and get people's attention. And so if you look at, and I share some of the timelines, like the first time the interruption, excuse me. So yeah, I'll go in that second, but searching is the first thing. And then, but again, searching is good because you can go find and find exactly what you want, that's the pros of it. And I think I've listed the pros and cons. Yeah, the pros for search is that when people come to you, they're hot. That's the thing, like I'm looking for a plumber, they call you, I need a plumber. Sweet, I'm a plumber I'm coming right over. Or I need a hammer. It's like they're hot, they're looking for it. That's the pros of search. The cons is you can't stimulate that. You can't stimulate search and make you all of a sudden come search for me. And so that was kind of the cons of it. And so it was hard to really grow and scale company because you sit there waiting for people to search for you, waiting for somebody to get a desire. Then fast forward to 1927. So 1927 is when TVs were invented. And 15 years later on July 1st, 1942, it was during the Brooklyn Dodgers Philadelphia Phillies game at Ebbets Field it was the first ever TV commercial aired. So what happened? Think like this, people were sitting there, they're watching TV, in their homes, they're being entertained, they're enjoying, they're interested in baseball or watching baseball. And then in the middle of that boom, they're interrupted with an ad. And then the ad was for Bulova Watches and Bulova. And think about before this, if Bulova wanted to sell a watch, what did they have to do? They'd wait for someone who's like, I need a watch and they'd go search for a watch. They're waiting, I hope business comes because they had to wait. That was the first TV commercial in the early 1900s. People were sort of watching TV, they're not planning. And all of a sudden in the middle of that ad they're interrupted. They're interrupted and after the interrupted then comes in the ad was, it says the ad was nine seconds long. In fact if you go to YouTube right now and search it, you can actually find it. I found it there. It is nine seconds long, it costs them $9 to run. And the ad said, America runs on Bulova time. Now obviously that was not the greatest ad in the world but it was the ad. It was the first time somebody did interruption marketing. So people watching baseball so they were interrupted and Bulova had this little window of time where they could grab someone's attention. They could build up the perceived value, what is there to sell and then they can make them an offer. And that was the very first time this interruption concept happened. And interruption marketing is powerful because it gives you, because in research marketing, people have to be looking for you. They're interested, they have a desire, they're looking for you. With interruption, you have a chance to capture their attention and then make a presentation to increase the perceived value of the thing that you're trying to sell and then you make them an offer. And in the book you hear me talk a little more about hook story offer in a day or two. I don't know when can we get there, but that's the next framework is when you interrupt somebody you got this little window of time. So I'm going to sit down here because this is my studio I'm sitting on the floor because that's what we got here when we're in quarantine. But what we understand that like this is some of the interesting stuff. And I have a friend, his name is Trevor Chapman and he's the one that kind of first made this concept light up in my head. He talks about searching versus interruption. So search marketing. Let's say for example you wanted a new home security system. So what would you do? You'd go on Amazon and type in home security system. You'd search for it. And if you found it, you're like, oh, I need a home security. So I'm looking for it. And right now you can get a pretty good home security system on Amazon for like 200 bucks. You pay 200 bucks, it comes to you, you install it and boom, you now have a home security system for 200 bucks because you were searching for it. And people that search typically they're bargain shoppers, looking not just in one place, they're searching five different things, they're price comparison and all these kinds of things. But when they come to you, they're hot. They're ready to buy right now. Now put that in contrast with what Trevor talks about when he talked about what he did. He ran a sales team, a door to door sales, people selling home security systems. And he said, we didn't rely on search at all. We relied on uninterrupted marketing. He said so what we do is we would go and we would go door to door and we knocked on the door and we'd interrupt someone during dinner or whatever it is, we interrupt them. And we interrupt and they opened the door and we had this little window time. The first step is to hook them, to get their attention we hook them. Right? When you pass that initial hook, then we have this window of time we can tell them a story. And the goal of the story is what? Is to increase the perceived value of the thing I'm going to sell, and at the end have a chance to make an offer. Now two minutes earlier that person was not looking for home security system but because I interrupted them, I hooked them with something that get their attention. I told them a story to increase the perceived value that I could sell the thing that I'm selling for what it's actually worth. Typically the search-based marketing you're in a comparison game. It's a race to the bottom you're selling commodities and people are searching for all of their variations to find the cheapest one or the best with the highest ratings. Whereas interruption based marketing, they're not searching everywhere else in the world, you're coming to them. You're interrupting them. You make a presentation about the perceived value, what it is you're selling. And then you can sell for whatever you want. And he talked about how when he was selling security systems, someone could go on Amazon and find them for 200 bucks. But what we do, we knock on the door and interrupt them, tell our story, increase the perceived value, make them an offer and walk out the door with a $5,000 contract for a home security system. That's the power of interruption marketing, gives you the ability to find people who aren't in the moment needing it, but you created a desire in them to be able to go and sell the thing. And so what's interesting as you start looking at the online, the same trend happened throughout history. When the internet first came out, there was what type of marketing? There was search. You would go to Google and you would search for something. And it was amazing because you could rank for the keywords, you can make a bunch of money, you can buy pay-per-click ads, but you only made money on people that were actually searching for you. Everywhere else you just missed out on the opportunity. And so you lost that money but it was a really good opportunity. And then a little while later, then also in the social networks started coming out. And the social networks happened and then somewhere down the line and I have the dates in here, but somewhere down the line is when Mark Zuckerberg introduced the Facebook Ads platform, which was the very first real big play of interruption marketing. Someone would come on Facebook and they're hanging out with their friends, they're talking, they're being entertained. And then an ad would come in to interrupt them for a second. So you're strolling through the ads, awesome boom, your ad comes. And if you do it right, this is like the knock on the door for the door to door sales person. You knock on the door, it interrupts them for a second. Just long enough, you got their attention. You hook them and then it opens up this little window for you where you can now tell them your story. And the goal of your story is to increase the perceived value of what you're going to sell them. And then you make them an offer, hook, story offer. And that's the power of interruption marketing is it gives you that little window of time where instead of like waiting for you to be like hey, I hope someone searched for cat food today because I'm selling cat food. Instead of waiting and waiting, we have to say, okay, who's interested in cats. Let me go find those people. Let me try to interrupt them. And we go knock on their door. Let me go through all these hooks and try to grab their attention just for long enough so I can explain to them why my cat food is so much better. My cat medicine or my cat whatever cat thing you sell. Tell them your story, increase the perceived value which is selling themselves what it’s actually worth. Then you're not going out there and they're fighting and they're comparing your cat food versus 500 other people. You have the ability now to increase the perceived value, sell your thing for what it's worth. So that's search versus interruption. And if you start looking at all the different advertising networks out there and you start classifying them. So Google is a search platform, people are coming to search on it. Yahoo is a search platform. I don't even know what other ones are out there. I just use Google. But those are the search platforms. Then you got a Facebook and Instagram, these are interruption platforms. They're getting people's attention. They're categorizing people based on what they're interested in. And you really come in to interrupt those people saying, I want to end up all people interested in cats. All people interested in fitness, all people interested in business. I interrupt them and then it opens a little window for you to come in there and set a hook to get their attention, tell them a story, increase the perceived value that we have and then make an offer. And that's the magic. So then again, the first phase we talked about in this book here was you're taking your dream customers, you're identifying, you're breaking them based on people that are trying to move away from pleasure and people who are trying and move towards plain. We have different messages for both those people. They are not the same, they're different. So maybe we have different funnels, different landing pages, different ads are speaking differently to each person. The next thing is understanding, where am I going fishing? Where am I trying to find these people? If it's search based, that's okay but I'm going to speak those people differently. Those people would probably do more comparison shopping. Those people are probably looking for a deal. They're researching, they're searching for you, they find you. So if my landing pages aren't based on understanding hey, this is the mindset someone's coming to they are they're researching, you're going to struggle. Now if someone's in Instagram or Facebook, they're doing something else, I'm interrupting them. So I have something exciting, I have something cool, I have a cool background. I need something like this where they're scrolling through their feed and it's like, what is this thing? Why is Russell waving a book? Like yesterday I had my Thanos. I had these gloves on yesterday because when the videos are on Facebook and Google I want someone scrolling through to be like why does Russell got this weird glove? And they're going to stop. I hooked them just long enough to have a chance now to tell them my story, to increase the perceived value, what I'm doing and then make them an offer. Okay. By the way, BTW, those who are watching this video on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, wherever you are, what did I just do? I hooked you right. I've been telling you a story to increase the perceived value of the offer I have for you. Some you guys are like, dang, that's in the book. That's secret number one in the book. That's awesome, I need that. So I told you the story to increase the perceived value of this thing that I'm going to offer you here in a second. Wait, Rusty you practice what you preach. Yes, I do every day. So that's what I'm doing. Now if I'm putting this out to a search audience this is going to be different. My message is not going to be me with a Thanos glove trying to interrupt him because they're already looking. They're looking for like how to get more traffic. I'm going to come to that. Hey, here's the review page. Here's five ways to get traffic, boom, boom, boom. And by the way, number one book to get traffic is this book right here which you will get it for free at trafficsecrets.com. I'm speaking to them differently. So you're categorizing people based on search versus interruption. And understanding that your ad campaigns are structured. All the things you're doing are different depending on which way people are coming into your worlds. Does that make sense? I think so many times people group traffic or advertising like just one thing. It's like, no, you guys are not understanding the intricacies of what you're doing. And so I need you to understand that if I'm speaking to somebody who is searching for someone who I'm interrupting because it's different, my ad's different. My ad on my Google ad is not me running around going crazy or lighting my book on fire. But my ad on Instagram is, my ad on Facebook is. I've got to grab your attention just long enough to open a window so you will listen to my story so I can increase the perceived value of what I have to sell and I can make you an offer. And start thinking, I guess if you're thinking in your mind like oh my gosh, I've seen this over and over again. When I go to Google, I search for stuff. What are the landing pages look like? People are successful. What do those ads look like? What are they saying? How are they speaking to me? I'm speaking them differently than I'm speaking to somebody who I'm interrupting. If I'm interrupting, I'm doing crazy videos, trying to capture your attention and to get you to like focus. And just long enough so I can grab you, grab your attention and tell you a story. So that's the key that we understand there. It's a little different, a little slight intricacies, little slight differences but it's the key to this whole game. Oh yeah. So Google is a search platform. YouTube is interesting because YouTube is a search, but it's also a social. So YouTube is one of my favorites and there's a whole chapter here going deep into YouTube because it's a search and it's an interruption platform. And so there's different strategies when you're inside of that which are kind of fun. Facebook, Instagram, are interruption platforms. Other search based platforms like Quora, where you're going to you're searching questions, you're answering questions. That's a search based platform. So if you start looking at where to get traffic and you start thinking through it in your mind, realize there's search based, interruption based, there's two different things. And it's important because that's some of the foundational stuff you've got to understand as you're going after dream customers. So that again, yesterday's video and today's is all just secret number one, we haven't gotten to secret number two yet. So let me come back real quick. So secret number one, I did introduction date number one yesterday or today and yesterday was who's your dream customer. And then today I talked about searcher versus scroller. You can see that in the video there. Tomorrow's video I'm going to go into secret number two, where are they hiding? So depending on if this is live with this tomorrow, if this is on YouTube or on a playlist, like there's probably a place here where you can watch the next one. But after we can go into next is where are they hiding the dream 100. Now really quick, now that I've grabbed your attention, I've told you a value increase the perceived value of this book. Hopefully now I'm hoping you want a copy of this so badly. So if you want one, guess what? Right now during pre-launch, they are free. You just got to cover the shipping handling. This is the hardbound book. I've already paid for the printing of this thing, they're not cheap to print. So I paid for the printing. They are going to be shipping out on May 5th. Right now we are in pre-launch. We've almost sold 10,000 copies the first 24 hours, which is crazy, really proud of that. Proof of these traffic things we're talking about actually work. But you can get a copy right now. trafficsecrets.com during the pre-launch. Again, we ship these May 5th, but when you're buying this, one of the order form bumps as you go through the funnel is for the audio book. The audio book is done. I spent three days in a warehouse, not a warehouse, in a studio reading this entire book. You can get the audio book immediately. And inside the audio book is actually links to a supplemental PDF that has all the doodles and stuff. So as you're listening, you can look at the doodles and make sure you understand the concepts. That's available today. You can start listening to the audio book right now. You just got to go to trafficsecrets.com, get a copy of the book. This ships May 5th and then the order form bump is the audio book so you can listen to it, which is awesome. Right now like 36% of you guys are taking the audio book. So that means that one third of you guys are ready to listen today. The rest of you is like, I'll worry about traffic in the future. But honestly, right now we're in scary times. I'm in quarantine right now, I'm sure most of you guys are in quarantine or at your house hanging out. I'm recording this on phone, on my iPad because my film crews are in quarantine everywhere. Like it's chaos right now but you got to understand the most important thing in business for all of you guys in good times and in bad is traffic. It's the people, it's you having the ability to get your message in front of people. If you're not able to do that, it makes business really hard. If you are able to do that, makes business easy. So how do you get traffic? Not just how to get any traffic, how do you get the stuff that the buyer says, the underground playbook for filling your websites and funnels with your dream customers, not just any customers, your dream customers, the ones that have money, the ones that can afford your products, can afford your services. The ones you actually want to serve. And so that's the game plan you guys, that's Traffic Secrets. Now it’s time to get yours at trafficsecrets.com. Someone said they ordered the book but never got a confirmation email. I'd look in your junk folder, email is like the least reliable thing on this planet. I hate email, I wish somebody would make something better than that. So all right. Oh, someone is asking, how much is the book? So the box of the first upsell is the box set. If you want the entire box, I won't spoil it for you, but when you go through the funnel, when you buy the Traffic Secrets book, the upsell is to get the whole box set. The box has Dotcom Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book, the Traffic Secrets, all hard bound. And these have all been updated. I added over 30,000 words to each of these books before the new hard bound versions came out. So these are all the three newest versions. And also this is the Unlock Secrets Workbook. It's a 600 page workbook that comes with it. If you want this huge box set, it is the upsell at trafficsecrets.com but you got to get the book to be able to see the offer for the whole thing. So I'd recommend getting it because it's awesome. So anyway, I appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for hanging out today while you were at home or doing your thing. And just remembered that this is not a time to hide and do nothing. This the time to serve your audience to higher level. Go live, tell your story, tell your message. Give people a message of faith and hope. Don't stop selling things, don't stop promoting. If the economy, the best thing for the economy is for us entrepreneurs to keep doing what we're doing. If we stop all commerce from happening, this is horrible for the economy. The scariest thing for me personally is not this virus, it's the economic repercussions of it. Our job as entrepreneurs is to keep doing what we're doing. If we stop, the economy will stop. And that's when it gets really, really, really scary. So yeah, keep producing you guys, keep publishing. I've been talking about this for years, and as you get deeper in Traffic Secrets book, one of the things I'm going to challenge everyone is publish every day for a year. Whether it's Facebook, Instagram platform, YouTube, I don't care. Pick a platform and continually publish every single day for a year. If you do that, you'll have no more financial troubles in a year from now but you got to be consistent and start publishing. So I'm going to publish every day. Every day I'm going to be reading parts of the books for you. Hope you guys enjoyed today. Got some ideas out of it and I'll be back tomorrow with the next chapter, secret number two we're going into you guys. So between now and then, go get your copy of the book trafficsecrets.com. And I'll see you guys all again very, very soon. Thanks everybody, appreciate you all. And will talk to you soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0000 TWO Types Of People Online - Traffic Secrets Revisited! full 449 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to the first episode in this special 8 part series. With Russell being incredibly busy preparing for Funnel Hacking Live, he decided to share some of the traffic tips that he released last year during the "Traffic Secrets" book launch. On this... Welcome to the first episode in this special 8 part series. With Russell being incredibly busy preparing for Funnel Hacking Live, he decided to share some of the traffic tips that he released last year during the "Traffic Secrets" book launch. On this episode, Russell reveals the CRITICAL difference between the "Searcher" vs. the "Scroller". You'll learn: How to craft your funnel for BOTH types. Why interruption marketing is so powerful (and how to correctly use it). Why you must HOOK your audience before you tell your story or make your offer. Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, I've got a special treat for you guys over the next 30 days. One of the biggest requests I get people wanting to know more about traffic, which is one of the reasons why I wrote a whole book called Traffic Secrets, which if you don't have go to trafficsecrets.com and get it, what are you waiting for? Do you hate money that bad? Anyway, so what I wanted to do over the next couple of weeks because I've been slammed recently with obviously Funnel Hacking live is happening in less than a week from the time I'm recording this. We've also got inner circles relaunching we've got a whole bunch of other crazy things, like a bunch of there's lots happening. And so I thought it would be fun I think for you guys to get more traffic stuff and also take a little weight off my shoulders for the next couple of weeks is to give you guys access to eight episodes of me talking about traffic. Now, this is something that I actually recorded during the pandemic when I was in the book launch. So I had a chance to go deep on a whole bunch of topics from the Traffic Secrets book. And so I want to share those with you guys over the next couple of weeks. So that's kind of the game plan. If you want, I would highly recommend getting the Traffic Secrets book and reading along as we go through the next eight episodes or so because I'm going to be going deep into each of the sections and the chapters and talking about all the principles, all the things you guys got to do to get more traffic into your funnels. So I hope you enjoy the next few weeks, hope you enjoy the Traffic Secrets episodes. If you guys want more info about traffic, of course go get the book. On top of that we also have a Traffic Secrets podcast. These episodes are from that podcast. So hopefully you get addicted and make you want to go subscribe to that podcast as well. Thanks again you guys. I appreciate you for listening and I hope you enjoy the next eight episodes. What's up everybody this is Russell. Welcome back to we're at day number three. Day number three of the Traffic Secret series. I'm going live every single day for the next, I don't know, we're in quarantine. Well as long as we want, as long as you're having fun, we'll keep doing this. So if you are having fun, please let me know down in the comments, be like, this is fun, Russell. We should do this more often. Or if you're like, I have better things to do with my day than sit in quarantine and listen to Russell talk about traffic. Well let me know in the comments down below if you're having fun because so far I'm enjoying this and I'm not going to lie, it gives me a little bit of break from all the other distresses of all the stuff we do. So I'm enjoying it. And hopefully you guys are having some fun as well. As you guys know, oh, let me pull this over here so you can see inside the screen. We are on day number two, actually it has been in 26 minutes it'll have been 24 hours that the book Funnel has been live. And why do you guys, since you're all my marketing nerds who like to hang out and talk marketing with me, The Funnel is doing insanely well. We are just shy of 10,000 copies. So I was trying to get 10,000 copies in the first 24 hours. It'll probably be 25 maybe 26 hours before we hit it. But that's still pretty dang good. To put that in perspective, the average New York Times bestselling book only sells 10,000 copies the first week. So we are 10,000 copies in less than 24 hours which means this must be a book you guys are interested in. It must be a topic you are interested in. It's probably the most timely thing ever. It's interesting when I started this project two years ago, not knowing when this was going to go live, not knowing the circumstances. And now with, depending on if you're watching this live or later, we are in day two or three of quarantine here. The coronavirus is just crazy and businesses are freaking out and people are struggling. And a lot of companies are shutting their doors. And right now the thing I think that people need more than anything is traffic, it's people. How do you get your dream customers, the right people to come to your door so you can help them and you can serve them. And so that's what this whole book's about. So my goal is hopefully you guys all get a copy. Again, these don't ship until May 5th but the audio books are there now. In fact 36% of you guys are buying the audio books. So thank you for that but it gives you a chance to go and start listening to it immediately. But then I'm going live free here and I'm just going to basically share stuff in the book. So if you want to see some of the old episodes on Facebook, they are there. Other places, YouTube we got them there as well. But basically I'm going through the book and talking about it. So today I'm going to dive back in. You guys want some more insights from the book that will hopefully help you out in whatever part of the journey you're in right now? Hopefully you do. And as you're reading this, you're like, all right, fine Russell, you pushed me over the edge. I'm finally ready to get the book you've been talking about for two years, just go to trafficsecrets.com, you'll see The Funnel. And I would recommend going through the funnel slow. This is the highest converting funnel I've ever done. And I've been doing this game for 15 years now. So this was 15 years of like me testing and trying a bunch of things. And this is the, I talked about funnel hacking. I said, you can go through, get all the arrows in the back, try to figure your way out or see where people where they're at today in their model. So right now this is where my funnel is at and it's killing it. Excuse me. We're averaging 80, almost $80 for every free book we give away inside the funnel. So it's working, it's good. Anyway, so that's the game plan. You guys ready to jump into this so we have some fun? I love it. All right, okay. I'm going to go. So here we go. I'm going to open up the box set. Some of you guys yesterday on the live everyone's was like, where did I get the box set? And I'm like the only way you can see the box set is an upsell. So you've got to buy the book and then the upsell is like, hey, do you want all the books? All new hardbound copies and the workbook and everything. So that's the only way to get it is after you go to chaptersecrets.com and get your free copy of the book. I think it's $10 shipping handling US for the hard bound. And then it's like 19.85 I think international. And these will be shipping May 5th. This is a pre-launch, May 5th these will start shipping but the audio books that I recorded myself in a studio for three days are available beginning today. And yeah, so there you go. Plus all the other bonuses, there's five insane bonuses you guys get with the book as well. Usually they sell each of those for 97 bucks as a standalone product. You get them for free when you buy the book for free. So if you like free then you should get a copy of the book. All right, with that said, I'm going to go in here. So the first day I talked about, I just read some stuff from the intro which was all about basically a storm coming, which is interesting now that we're in like the middle of the storm. But there's a storm coming, traffic shifting everything's different and you got prepared. I was lucky enough and blessed enough when I started learning traffic it wasn't when Facebook Ads were here. And I was trying to figure out how to run Facebook Ads. I was learning this stuff before Facebook, before Myspace, before Friendster, I was learning how to drive traffic from some of the original OGs of direct response marketing. I was learning direct mail, radio, postcards, things like that. And as you apply these principles to the internet, it's really, really powerful. So if Facebook shuts down, or your ads account is banned or Google changes, this book is like, here's how to have a stable foundation to get traffic even in those times. I've been lucky to now have been doing this for 15 years. And I've been through a couple of market grows, a couple market crashes and I've seen networks come and go, Google Slaps, Facebook Snaps, a whole bunch of stuff. What is interesting is that we've not only survived in the times, we've thrived is because of the foundational principles you're going to learn here inside of Traffic Secrets. So talking about a storm coming. That struggle in chapter one, your dream customer. Shared some cool stories from this yesterday. I'm not going to go back into it but the whole key is becoming obsessed with your dream customer and the better you understand them, you understand what are they doing to move towards pleasure away from pain. It makes it so much easier to find them. So today we're what we're going to talk about are two things called the searcher and the scroller. When you have your book, if you go to page 25, as I start talking about these concepts of the searcher and the scroller, I think I got some doodles in here. Yeah, I got some doodles in here. So for those who are like me, like the doodles, there is the searcher and there's the scroller. Now it's important to understands a lot of people think that traffic is just traffic. Oh, I just need to figure how to get more traffic. And so that's kind of all they're looking for. But you got to understand that people's habits are different. And so there's a searcher and there's the scroller. And what's interesting if you look at how business started back in the early 1800s, when did people buy something? They had a need for it. So like, oh, I need a hammer. They would jump in the car, drive to the grocery store and they would go buy a hammer. They're searching for something. Now, when you're searching, you know what you're looking for. I need this thing to solve this problem, this thing. And so you're searching for it and you go look for it and you buy it and you come back. And for a long time, that's how business happened. Back in the early 1800s, early 1900s was a hundred percent of commerce happened through searching. Someone needed something and they went in search for it. The yellow pages came, they searched through yellow pages, find the business that had the thing they needed. Oh I need a plumber, find the person, they'd search for him and they can go and get him. So what was nice for consumers is I could go search, I could find things I wanted. But as a business owner it was tough because I couldn't go and get people's attention. And so if you look at, and I share some of the timelines, like the first time the interruption, excuse me. So yeah, I'll go in that second, but searching is the first thing. And then, but again, searching is good because you can go find and find exactly what you want, that's the pros of it. And I think I've listed the pros and cons. Yeah, the pros for search is that when people come to you, they're hot. That's the thing, like I'm looking for a plumber, they call you, I need a plumber. Sweet, I'm a plumber I'm coming right over. Or I need a hammer. It's like they're hot, they're looking for it. That's the pros of search. The cons is you can't stimulate that. You can't stimulate search and make you all of a sudden come search for me. And so that was kind of the cons of it. And so it was hard to really grow and scale company because you sit there waiting for people to search for you, waiting for somebody to get a desire. Then fast forward to 1927. So 1927 is when TVs were invented. And 15 years later on July 1st, 1942, it was during the Brooklyn Dodgers Philadelphia Phillies game at Ebbets Field it was the first ever TV commercial aired. So what happened? Think like this, people were sitting there, they're watching TV, in their homes, they're being entertained, they're enjoying, they're interested in baseball or watching baseball. And then in the middle of that boom, they're interrupted with an ad. And then the ad was for Bulova Watches and Bulova. And think about before this, if Bulova wanted to sell a watch, what did they have to do? They'd wait for someone who's like, I need a watch and they'd go search for a watch. They're waiting, I hope business comes because they had to wait. That was the first TV commercial in the early 1900s. People were sort of watching TV, they're not planning. And all of a sudden in the middle of that ad they're interrupted. They're interrupted and after the interrupted then comes in the ad was, it says the ad was nine seconds long. In fact if you go to YouTube right now and search it, you can actually find it. I found it there. It is nine seconds long, it costs them $9 to run. And the ad said, America runs on Bulova time. Now obviously that was not the greatest ad in the world but it was the ad. It was the first time somebody did interruption marketing. So people watching baseball so they were interrupted and Bulova had this little window of time where they could grab someone's attention. They could build up the perceived value, what is there to sell and then they can make them an offer. And that was the very first time this interruption concept happened. And interruption marketing is powerful because it gives you, because in research marketing, people have to be looking for you. They're interested, they have a desire, they're looking for you. With interruption, you have a chance to capture their attention and then make a presentation to increase the perceived value of the thing that you're trying to sell and then you make them an offer. And in the book you hear me talk a little more about hook story offer in a day or two. I don't know when can we get there, but that's the next framework is when you interrupt somebody you got this little window of time. So I'm going to sit down here because this is my studio I'm sitting on the floor because that's what we got here when we're in quarantine. But what we understand that like this is some of the interesting stuff. And I have a friend, his name is Trevor Chapman and he's the one that kind of first made this concept light up in my head. He talks about searching versus interruption. So search marketing. Let's say for example you wanted a new home security system. So what would you do? You'd go on Amazon and type in home security system. You'd search for it. And if you found it, you're like, oh, I need a home security. So I'm looking for it. And right now you can get a pretty good home security system on Amazon for like 200 bucks. You pay 200 bucks, it comes to you, you install it and boom, you now have a home security system for 200 bucks because you were searching for it. And people that search typically they're bargain shoppers, looking not just in one place, they're searching five different things, they're price comparison and all these kinds of things. But when they come to you, they're hot. They're ready to buy right now. Now put that in contrast with what Trevor talks about when he talked about what he did. He ran a sales team, a door to door sales, people selling home security systems. And he said, we didn't rely on search at all. We relied on uninterrupted marketing. He said so what we do is we would go and we would go door to door and we knocked on the door and we'd interrupt someone during dinner or whatever it is, we interrupt them. And we interrupt and they opened the door and we had this little window time. The first step is to hook them, to get their attention we hook them. Right? When you pass that initial hook, then we have this window of time we can tell them a story. And the goal of the story is what? Is to increase the perceived value of the thing I'm going to sell, and at the end have a chance to make an offer. Now two minutes earlier that person was not looking for home security system but because I interrupted them, I hooked them with something that get their attention. I told them a story to increase the perceived value that I could sell the thing that I'm selling for what it's actually worth. Typically the search-based marketing you're in a comparison game. It's a race to the bottom you're selling commodities and people are searching for all of their variations to find the cheapest one or the best with the highest ratings. Whereas interruption based marketing, they're not searching everywhere else in the world, you're coming to them. You're interrupting them. You make a presentation about the perceived value, what it is you're selling. And then you can sell for whatever you want. And he talked about how when he was selling security systems, someone could go on Amazon and find them for 200 bucks. But what we do, we knock on the door and interrupt them, tell our story, increase the perceived value, make them an offer and walk out the door with a $5,000 contract for a home security system. That's the power of interruption marketing, gives you the ability to find people who aren't in the moment needing it, but you created a desire in them to be able to go and sell the thing. And so what's interesting as you start looking at the online, the same trend happened throughout history. When the internet first came out, there was what type of marketing? There was search. You would go to Google and you would search for something. And it was amazing because you could rank for the keywords, you can make a bunch of money, you can buy pay-per-click ads, but you only made money on people that were actually searching for you. Everywhere else you just missed out on the opportunity. And so you lost that money but it was a really good opportunity. And then a little while later, then also in the social networks started coming out. And the social networks happened and then somewhere down the line and I have the dates in here, but somewhere down the line is when Mark Zuckerberg introduced the Facebook Ads platform, which was the very first real big play of interruption marketing. Someone would come on Facebook and they're hanging out with their friends, they're talking, they're being entertained. And then an ad would come in to interrupt them for a second. So you're strolling through the ads, awesome boom, your ad comes. And if you do it right, this is like the knock on the door for the door to door sales person. You knock on the door, it interrupts them for a second. Just long enough, you got their attention. You hook them and then it opens up this little window for you where you can now tell them your story. And the goal of your story is to increase the perceived value of what you're going to sell them. And then you make them an offer, hook, story offer. And that's the power of interruption marketing is it gives you that little window of time where instead of like waiting for you to be like hey, I hope someone searched for cat food today because I'm selling cat food. Instead of waiting and waiting, we have to say, okay, who's interested in cats. Let me go find those people. Let me try to interrupt them. And we go knock on their door. Let me go through all these hooks and try to grab their attention just for long enough so I can explain to them why my cat food is so much better. My cat medicine or my cat whatever cat thing you sell. Tell them your story, increase the perceived value which is selling themselves what it’s actually worth. Then you're not going out there and they're fighting and they're comparing your cat food versus 500 other people. You have the ability now to increase the perceived value, sell your thing for what it's worth. So that's search versus interruption. And if you start looking at all the different advertising networks out there and you start classifying them. So Google is a search platform, people are coming to search on it. Yahoo is a search platform. I don't even know what other ones are out there. I just use Google. But those are the search platforms. Then you got a Facebook and Instagram, these are interruption platforms. They're getting people's attention. They're categorizing people based on what they're interested in. And you really come in to interrupt those people saying, I want to end up all people interested in cats. All people interested in fitness, all people interested in business. I interrupt them and then it opens a little window for you to come in there and set a hook to get their attention, tell them a story, increase the perceived value that we have and then make an offer. And that's the magic. So then again, the first phase we talked about in this book here was you're taking your dream customers, you're identifying, you're breaking them based on people that are trying to move away from pleasure and people who are trying and move towards plain. We have different messages for both those people. They are not the same, they're different. So maybe we have different funnels, different landing pages, different ads are speaking differently to each person. The next thing is understanding, where am I going fishing? Where am I trying to find these people? If it's search based, that's okay but I'm going to speak those people differently. Those people would probably do more comparison shopping. Those people are probably looking for a deal. They're researching, they're searching for you, they find you. So if my landing pages aren't based on understanding hey, this is the mindset someone's coming to they are they're researching, you're going to struggle. Now if someone's in Instagram or Facebook, they're doing something else, I'm interrupting them. So I have something exciting, I have something cool, I have a cool background. I need something like this where they're scrolling through their feed and it's like, what is this thing? Why is Russell waving a book? Like yesterday I had my Thanos. I had these gloves on yesterday because when the videos are on Facebook and Google I want someone scrolling through to be like why does Russell got this weird glove? And they're going to stop. I hooked them just long enough to have a chance now to tell them my story, to increase the perceived value, what I'm doing and then make them an offer. Okay. By the way, BTW, those who are watching this video on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, wherever you are, what did I just do? I hooked you right. I've been telling you a story to increase the perceived value of the offer I have for you. Some you guys are like, dang, that's in the book. That's secret number one in the book. That's awesome, I need that. So I told you the story to increase the perceived value of this thing that I'm going to offer you here in a second. Wait, Rusty you practice what you preach. Yes, I do every day. So that's what I'm doing. Now if I'm putting this out to a search audience this is going to be different. My message is not going to be me with a Thanos glove trying to interrupt him because they're already looking. They're looking for like how to get more traffic. I'm going to come to that. Hey, here's the review page. Here's five ways to get traffic, boom, boom, boom. And by the way, number one book to get traffic is this book right here which you will get it for free at trafficsecrets.com. I'm speaking to them differently. So you're categorizing people based on search versus interruption. And understanding that your ad campaigns are structured. All the things you're doing are different depending on which way people are coming into your worlds. Does that make sense? I think so many times people group traffic or advertising like just one thing. It's like, no, you guys are not understanding the intricacies of what you're doing. And so I need you to understand that if I'm speaking to somebody who is searching for someone who I'm interrupting because it's different, my ad's different. My ad on my Google ad is not me running around going crazy or lighting my book on fire. But my ad on Instagram is, my ad on Facebook is. I've got to grab your attention just long enough to open a window so you will listen to my story so I can increase the perceived value of what I have to sell and I can make you an offer. And start thinking, I guess if you're thinking in your mind like oh my gosh, I've seen this over and over again. When I go to Google, I search for stuff. What are the landing pages look like? People are successful. What do those ads look like? What are they saying? How are they speaking to me? I'm speaking them differently than I'm speaking to somebody who I'm interrupting. If I'm interrupting, I'm doing crazy videos, trying to capture your attention and to get you to like focus. And just long enough so I can grab you, grab your attention and tell you a story. So that's the key that we understand there. It's a little different, a little slight intricacies, little slight differences but it's the key to this whole game. Oh yeah. So Google is a search platform. YouTube is interesting because YouTube is a search, but it's also a social. So YouTube is one of my favorites and there's a whole chapter here going deep into YouTube because it's a search and it's an interruption platform. And so there's different strategies when you're inside of that which are kind of fun. Facebook, Instagram, are interruption platforms. Other search based platforms like Quora, where you're going to you're searching questions, you're answering questions. That's a search based platform. So if you start looking at where to get traffic and you start thinking through it in your mind, realize there's search based, interruption based, there's two different things. And it's important because that's some of the foundational stuff you've got to understand as you're going after dream customers. So that again, yesterday's video and today's is all just secret number one, we haven't gotten to secret number two yet. So let me come back real quick. So secret number one, I did introduction date number one yesterday or today and yesterday was who's your dream customer. And then today I talked about searcher versus scroller. You can see that in the video there. Tomorrow's video I'm going to go into secret number two, where are they hiding? So depending on if this is live with this tomorrow, if this is on YouTube or on a playlist, like there's probably a place here where you can watch the next one. But after we can go into next is where are they hiding the dream 100. Now really quick, now that I've grabbed your attention, I've told you a value increase the perceived value of this book. Hopefully now I'm hoping you want a copy of this so badly. So if you want one, guess what? Right now during pre-launch, they are free. You just got to cover the shipping handling. This is the hardbound book. I've already paid for the printing of this thing, they're not cheap to print. So I paid for the printing. They are going to be shipping out on May 5th. Right now we are in pre-launch. We've almost sold 10,000 copies the first 24 hours, which is crazy, really proud of that. Proof of these traffic things we're talking about actually work. But you can get a copy right now. trafficsecrets.com during the pre-launch. Again, we ship these May 5th, but when you're buying this, one of the order form bumps as you go through the funnel is for the audio book. The audio book is done. I spent three days in a warehouse, not a warehouse, in a studio reading this entire book. You can get the audio book immediately. And inside the audio book is actually links to a supplemental PDF that has all the doodles and stuff. So as you're listening, you can look at the doodles and make sure you understand the concepts. That's available today. You can start listening to the audio book right now. You just got to go to trafficsecrets.com, get a copy of the book. This ships May 5th and then the order form bump is the audio book so you can listen to it, which is awesome. Right now like 36% of you guys are taking the audio book. So that means that one third of you guys are ready to listen today. The rest of you is like, I'll worry about traffic in the future. But honestly, right now we're in scary times. I'm in quarantine right now, I'm sure most of you guys are in quarantine or at your house hanging out. I'm recording this on phone, on my iPad because my film crews are in quarantine everywhere. Like it's chaos right now but you got to understand the most important thing in business for all of you guys in good times and in bad is traffic. It's the people, it's you having the ability to get your message in front of people. If you're not able to do that, it makes business really hard. If you are able to do that, makes business easy. So how do you get traffic? Not just how to get any traffic, how do you get the stuff that the buyer says, the underground playbook for filling your websites and funnels with your dream customers, not just any customers, your dream customers, the ones that have money, the ones that can afford your products, can afford your services. The ones you actually want to serve. And so that's the game plan you guys, that's Traffic Secrets. Now it’s time to get yours at trafficsecrets.com. Someone said they ordered the book but never got a confirmation email. I'd look in your junk folder, email is like the least reliable thing on this planet. I hate email, I wish somebody would make something better than that. So all right. Oh, someone is asking, how much is the book? So the box of the first upsell is the box set. If you want the entire box, I won't spoil it for you, but when you go through the funnel, when you buy the Traffic Secrets book, the upsell is to get the whole box set. The box has Dotcom Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book, the Traffic Secrets, all hard bound. And these have all been updated. I added over 30,000 words to each of these books before the new hard bound versions came out. So these are all the three newest versions. And also this is the Unlock Secrets Workbook. It's a 600 page workbook that comes with it. If you want this huge box set, it is the upsell at trafficsecrets.com but you got to get the book to be able to see the offer for the whole thing. So I'd recommend getting it because it's awesome. So anyway, I appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for hanging out today while you were at home or doing your thing. And just remembered that this is not a time to hide and do nothing. This the time to serve your audience to higher level. Go live, tell your story, tell your message. Give people a message of faith and hope. Don't stop selling things, don't stop promoting. If the economy, the best thing for the economy is for us entrepreneurs to keep doing what we're doing. If we stop all commerce from happening, this is horrible for the economy. The scariest thing for me personally is not this virus, it's the economic repercussions of it. Our job as entrepreneurs is to keep doing what we're doing. If we stop, the economy will stop. And that's when it gets really, really, really scary. So yeah, keep producing you guys, keep publishing. I've been talking about this for years, and as you get deeper in Traffic Secrets book, one of the things I'm going to challenge everyone is publish every day for a year. Whether it's Facebook, Instagram platform, YouTube, I don't care. Pick a platform and continually publish every single day for a year. If you do that, you'll have no more financial troubles in a year from now but you got to be consistent and start publishing. So I'm going to publish every day. Every day I'm going to be reading parts of the books for you. Hope you guys enjoyed today. Got some ideas out of it and I'll be back tomorrow with the next chapter, secret number two we're going into you guys. So between now and then, go get your copy of the book trafficsecrets.com. And I'll see you guys all again very, very soon. Thanks everybody, appreciate you all. And will talk to you soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome to the first episode in this special 8 part series. With Russell being incredibly busy preparing for Funnel Hacking Live, he decided to share some of the traffic tips that he released last year during the "Traffic Secrets" book launch.

On this episode, Russell reveals the CRITICAL difference between the "Searcher" vs. the "Scroller". You'll learn:

  • How to craft your funnel for BOTH types.
  • Why interruption marketing is so powerful (and how to correctly use it).
  • Why you must HOOK your audience before you tell your story or make your offer.

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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, I've got a special treat for you guys over the next 30 days. One of the biggest requests I get people wanting to know more about traffic, which is one of the reasons why I wrote a whole book called Traffic Secrets, which if you don't have go to trafficsecrets.com and get it, what are you waiting for? Do you hate money that bad? Anyway, so what I wanted to do over the next couple of weeks because I've been slammed recently with obviously Funnel Hacking live is happening in less than a week from the time I'm recording this. We've also got inner circles relaunching we've got a whole bunch of other crazy things, like a bunch of there's lots happening. And so I thought it would be fun I think for you guys to get more traffic stuff and also take a little weight off my shoulders for the next couple of weeks is to give you guys access to eight episodes of me talking about traffic.

Now, this is something that I actually recorded during the pandemic when I was in the book launch. So I had a chance to go deep on a whole bunch of topics from the Traffic Secrets book. And so I want to share those with you guys over the next couple of weeks. So that's kind of the game plan. If you want, I would highly recommend getting the Traffic Secrets book and reading along as we go through the next eight episodes or so because I'm going to be going deep into each of the sections and the chapters and talking about all the principles, all the things you guys got to do to get more traffic into your funnels.

So I hope you enjoy the next few weeks, hope you enjoy the Traffic Secrets episodes. If you guys want more info about traffic, of course go get the book. On top of that we also have a Traffic Secrets podcast. These episodes are from that podcast. So hopefully you get addicted and make you want to go subscribe to that podcast as well. Thanks again you guys. I appreciate you for listening and I hope you enjoy the next eight episodes.

What's up everybody this is Russell. Welcome back to we're at day number three. Day number three of the Traffic Secret series. I'm going live every single day for the next, I don't know, we're in quarantine. Well as long as we want, as long as you're having fun, we'll keep doing this. So if you are having fun, please let me know down in the comments, be like, this is fun, Russell. We should do this more often. Or if you're like, I have better things to do with my day than sit in quarantine and listen to Russell talk about traffic. Well let me know in the comments down below if you're having fun because so far I'm enjoying this and I'm not going to lie, it gives me a little bit of break from all the other distresses of all the stuff we do. So I'm enjoying it. And hopefully you guys are having some fun as well.

As you guys know, oh, let me pull this over here so you can see inside the screen. We are on day number two, actually it has been in 26 minutes it'll have been 24 hours that the book Funnel has been live. And why do you guys, since you're all my marketing nerds who like to hang out and talk marketing with me, The Funnel is doing insanely well. We are just shy of 10,000 copies. So I was trying to get 10,000 copies in the first 24 hours. It'll probably be 25 maybe 26 hours before we hit it. But that's still pretty dang good. To put that in perspective, the average New York Times bestselling book only sells 10,000 copies the first week. So we are 10,000 copies in less than 24 hours which means this must be a book you guys are interested in. It must be a topic you are interested in. It's probably the most timely thing ever.

It's interesting when I started this project two years ago, not knowing when this was going to go live, not knowing the circumstances. And now with, depending on if you're watching this live or later, we are in day two or three of quarantine here. The coronavirus is just crazy and businesses are freaking out and people are struggling. And a lot of companies are shutting their doors. And right now the thing I think that people need more than anything is traffic, it's people. How do you get your dream customers, the right people to come to your door so you can help them and you can serve them. And so that's what this whole book's about. So my goal is hopefully you guys all get a copy. Again, these don't ship until May 5th but the audio books are there now. In fact 36% of you guys are buying the audio books.

So thank you for that but it gives you a chance to go and start listening to it immediately. But then I'm going live free here and I'm just going to basically share stuff in the book. So if you want to see some of the old episodes on Facebook, they are there. Other places, YouTube we got them there as well. But basically I'm going through the book and talking about it. So today I'm going to dive back in. You guys want some more insights from the book that will hopefully help you out in whatever part of the journey you're in right now? Hopefully you do. And as you're reading this, you're like, all right, fine Russell, you pushed me over the edge. I'm finally ready to get the book you've been talking about for two years, just go to trafficsecrets.com, you'll see The Funnel. And I would recommend going through the funnel slow.

This is the highest converting funnel I've ever done. And I've been doing this game for 15 years now. So this was 15 years of like me testing and trying a bunch of things. And this is the, I talked about funnel hacking. I said, you can go through, get all the arrows in the back, try to figure your way out or see where people where they're at today in their model. So right now this is where my funnel is at and it's killing it. Excuse me. We're averaging 80, almost $80 for every free book we give away inside the funnel. So it's working, it's good. Anyway, so that's the game plan. You guys ready to jump into this so we have some fun? I love it. All right, okay. I'm going to go. So here we go. I'm going to open up the box set.

Some of you guys yesterday on the live everyone's was like, where did I get the box set? And I'm like the only way you can see the box set is an upsell. So you've got to buy the book and then the upsell is like, hey, do you want all the books? All new hardbound copies and the workbook and everything. So that's the only way to get it is after you go to chaptersecrets.com and get your free copy of the book. I think it's $10 shipping handling US for the hard bound. And then it's like 19.85 I think international. And these will be shipping May 5th. This is a pre-launch, May 5th these will start shipping but the audio books that I recorded myself in a studio for three days are available beginning today. And yeah, so there you go.

Plus all the other bonuses, there's five insane bonuses you guys get with the book as well. Usually they sell each of those for 97 bucks as a standalone product. You get them for free when you buy the book for free. So if you like free then you should get a copy of the book. All right, with that said, I'm going to go in here. So the first day I talked about, I just read some stuff from the intro which was all about basically a storm coming, which is interesting now that we're in like the middle of the storm. But there's a storm coming, traffic shifting everything's different and you got prepared. I was lucky enough and blessed enough when I started learning traffic it wasn't when Facebook Ads were here. And I was trying to figure out how to run Facebook Ads. I was learning this stuff before Facebook, before Myspace, before Friendster, I was learning how to drive traffic from some of the original OGs of direct response marketing.

I was learning direct mail, radio, postcards, things like that. And as you apply these principles to the internet, it's really, really powerful. So if Facebook shuts down, or your ads account is banned or Google changes, this book is like, here's how to have a stable foundation to get traffic even in those times. I've been lucky to now have been doing this for 15 years. And I've been through a couple of market grows, a couple market crashes and I've seen networks come and go, Google Slaps, Facebook Snaps, a whole bunch of stuff. What is interesting is that we've not only survived in the times, we've thrived is because of the foundational principles you're going to learn here inside of Traffic Secrets. So talking about a storm coming. That struggle in chapter one, your dream customer. Shared some cool stories from this yesterday. I'm not going to go back into it but the whole key is becoming obsessed with your dream customer and the better you understand them, you understand what are they doing to move towards pleasure away from pain.

It makes it so much easier to find them. So today we're what we're going to talk about are two things called the searcher and the scroller. When you have your book, if you go to page 25, as I start talking about these concepts of the searcher and the scroller, I think I got some doodles in here. Yeah, I got some doodles in here. So for those who are like me, like the doodles, there is the searcher and there's the scroller. Now it's important to understands a lot of people think that traffic is just traffic. Oh, I just need to figure how to get more traffic. And so that's kind of all they're looking for. But you got to understand that people's habits are different. And so there's a searcher and there's the scroller. And what's interesting if you look at how business started back in the early 1800s, when did people buy something?

They had a need for it. So like, oh, I need a hammer. They would jump in the car, drive to the grocery store and they would go buy a hammer. They're searching for something. Now, when you're searching, you know what you're looking for. I need this thing to solve this problem, this thing. And so you're searching for it and you go look for it and you buy it and you come back. And for a long time, that's how business happened. Back in the early 1800s, early 1900s was a hundred percent of commerce happened through searching. Someone needed something and they went in search for it. The yellow pages came, they searched through yellow pages, find the business that had the thing they needed. Oh I need a plumber, find the person, they'd search for him and they can go and get him.

So what was nice for consumers is I could go search, I could find things I wanted. But as a business owner it was tough because I couldn't go and get people's attention. And so if you look at, and I share some of the timelines, like the first time the interruption, excuse me. So yeah, I'll go in that second, but searching is the first thing. And then, but again, searching is good because you can go find and find exactly what you want, that's the pros of it. And I think I've listed the pros and cons. Yeah, the pros for search is that when people come to you, they're hot. That's the thing, like I'm looking for a plumber, they call you, I need a plumber. Sweet, I'm a plumber I'm coming right over.

Or I need a hammer. It's like they're hot, they're looking for it. That's the pros of search. The cons is you can't stimulate that. You can't stimulate search and make you all of a sudden come search for me. And so that was kind of the cons of it. And so it was hard to really grow and scale company because you sit there waiting for people to search for you, waiting for somebody to get a desire. Then fast forward to 1927. So 1927 is when TVs were invented. And 15 years later on July 1st, 1942, it was during the Brooklyn Dodgers Philadelphia Phillies game at Ebbets Field it was the first ever TV commercial aired. So what happened? Think like this, people were sitting there, they're watching TV, in their homes, they're being entertained, they're enjoying, they're interested in baseball or watching baseball.

And then in the middle of that boom, they're interrupted with an ad. And then the ad was for Bulova Watches and Bulova. And think about before this, if Bulova wanted to sell a watch, what did they have to do? They'd wait for someone who's like, I need a watch and they'd go search for a watch. They're waiting, I hope business comes because they had to wait. That was the first TV commercial in the early 1900s. People were sort of watching TV, they're not planning. And all of a sudden in the middle of that ad they're interrupted. They're interrupted and after the interrupted then comes in the ad was, it says the ad was nine seconds long. In fact if you go to YouTube right now and search it, you can actually find it. I found it there. It is nine seconds long, it costs them $9 to run.

And the ad said, America runs on Bulova time. Now obviously that was not the greatest ad in the world but it was the ad. It was the first time somebody did interruption marketing. So people watching baseball so they were interrupted and Bulova had this little window of time where they could grab someone's attention. They could build up the perceived value, what is there to sell and then they can make them an offer. And that was the very first time this interruption concept happened. And interruption marketing is powerful because it gives you, because in research marketing, people have to be looking for you. They're interested, they have a desire, they're looking for you. With interruption, you have a chance to capture their attention and then make a presentation to increase the perceived value of the thing that you're trying to sell and then you make them an offer.

And in the book you hear me talk a little more about hook story offer in a day or two. I don't know when can we get there, but that's the next framework is when you interrupt somebody you got this little window of time. So I'm going to sit down here because this is my studio I'm sitting on the floor because that's what we got here when we're in quarantine. But what we understand that like this is some of the interesting stuff. And I have a friend, his name is Trevor Chapman and he's the one that kind of first made this concept light up in my head. He talks about searching versus interruption. So search marketing. Let's say for example you wanted a new home security system. So what would you do? You'd go on Amazon and type in home security system.

You'd search for it. And if you found it, you're like, oh, I need a home security. So I'm looking for it. And right now you can get a pretty good home security system on Amazon for like 200 bucks. You pay 200 bucks, it comes to you, you install it and boom, you now have a home security system for 200 bucks because you were searching for it. And people that search typically they're bargain shoppers, looking not just in one place, they're searching five different things, they're price comparison and all these kinds of things. But when they come to you, they're hot. They're ready to buy right now. Now put that in contrast with what Trevor talks about when he talked about what he did. He ran a sales team, a door to door sales, people selling home security systems. And he said, we didn't rely on search at all. We relied on uninterrupted marketing.

He said so what we do is we would go and we would go door to door and we knocked on the door and we'd interrupt someone during dinner or whatever it is, we interrupt them. And we interrupt and they opened the door and we had this little window time. The first step is to hook them, to get their attention we hook them. Right? When you pass that initial hook, then we have this window of time we can tell them a story. And the goal of the story is what? Is to increase the perceived value of the thing I'm going to sell, and at the end have a chance to make an offer. Now two minutes earlier that person was not looking for home security system but because I interrupted them, I hooked them with something that get their attention.

I told them a story to increase the perceived value that I could sell the thing that I'm selling for what it's actually worth. Typically the search-based marketing you're in a comparison game. It's a race to the bottom you're selling commodities and people are searching for all of their variations to find the cheapest one or the best with the highest ratings. Whereas interruption based marketing, they're not searching everywhere else in the world, you're coming to them. You're interrupting them. You make a presentation about the perceived value, what it is you're selling. And then you can sell for whatever you want. And he talked about how when he was selling security systems, someone could go on Amazon and find them for 200 bucks. But what we do, we knock on the door and interrupt them, tell our story, increase the perceived value, make them an offer and walk out the door with a $5,000 contract for a home security system.

That's the power of interruption marketing, gives you the ability to find people who aren't in the moment needing it, but you created a desire in them to be able to go and sell the thing. And so what's interesting as you start looking at the online, the same trend happened throughout history. When the internet first came out, there was what type of marketing? There was search. You would go to Google and you would search for something. And it was amazing because you could rank for the keywords, you can make a bunch of money, you can buy pay-per-click ads, but you only made money on people that were actually searching for you. Everywhere else you just missed out on the opportunity. And so you lost that money but it was a really good opportunity. And then a little while later, then also in the social networks started coming out.

And the social networks happened and then somewhere down the line and I have the dates in here, but somewhere down the line is when Mark Zuckerberg introduced the Facebook Ads platform, which was the very first real big play of interruption marketing. Someone would come on Facebook and they're hanging out with their friends, they're talking, they're being entertained. And then an ad would come in to interrupt them for a second. So you're strolling through the ads, awesome boom, your ad comes. And if you do it right, this is like the knock on the door for the door to door sales person. You knock on the door, it interrupts them for a second. Just long enough, you got their attention. You hook them and then it opens up this little window for you where you can now tell them your story.

And the goal of your story is to increase the perceived value of what you're going to sell them. And then you make them an offer, hook, story offer. And that's the power of interruption marketing is it gives you that little window of time where instead of like waiting for you to be like hey, I hope someone searched for cat food today because I'm selling cat food. Instead of waiting and waiting, we have to say, okay, who's interested in cats. Let me go find those people. Let me try to interrupt them. And we go knock on their door. Let me go through all these hooks and try to grab their attention just for long enough so I can explain to them why my cat food is so much better. My cat medicine or my cat whatever cat thing you sell. Tell them your story, increase the perceived value which is selling themselves what it’s actually worth.

Then you're not going out there and they're fighting and they're comparing your cat food versus 500 other people. You have the ability now to increase the perceived value, sell your thing for what it's worth. So that's search versus interruption. And if you start looking at all the different advertising networks out there and you start classifying them. So Google is a search platform, people are coming to search on it. Yahoo is a search platform. I don't even know what other ones are out there. I just use Google. But those are the search platforms. Then you got a Facebook and Instagram, these are interruption platforms. They're getting people's attention. They're categorizing people based on what they're interested in. And you really come in to interrupt those people saying, I want to end up all people interested in cats.

All people interested in fitness, all people interested in business. I interrupt them and then it opens a little window for you to come in there and set a hook to get their attention, tell them a story, increase the perceived value that we have and then make an offer. And that's the magic. So then again, the first phase we talked about in this book here was you're taking your dream customers, you're identifying, you're breaking them based on people that are trying to move away from pleasure and people who are trying and move towards plain. We have different messages for both those people. They are not the same, they're different. So maybe we have different funnels, different landing pages, different ads are speaking differently to each person. The next thing is understanding, where am I going fishing? Where am I trying to find these people?

If it's search based, that's okay but I'm going to speak those people differently. Those people would probably do more comparison shopping. Those people are probably looking for a deal. They're researching, they're searching for you, they find you. So if my landing pages aren't based on understanding hey, this is the mindset someone's coming to they are they're researching, you're going to struggle. Now if someone's in Instagram or Facebook, they're doing something else, I'm interrupting them. So I have something exciting, I have something cool, I have a cool background. I need something like this where they're scrolling through their feed and it's like, what is this thing? Why is Russell waving a book? Like yesterday I had my Thanos. I had these gloves on yesterday because when the videos are on Facebook and Google I want someone scrolling through to be like why does Russell got this weird glove?

And they're going to stop. I hooked them just long enough to have a chance now to tell them my story, to increase the perceived value, what I'm doing and then make them an offer. Okay. By the way, BTW, those who are watching this video on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, wherever you are, what did I just do? I hooked you right. I've been telling you a story to increase the perceived value of the offer I have for you. Some you guys are like, dang, that's in the book. That's secret number one in the book. That's awesome, I need that. So I told you the story to increase the perceived value of this thing that I'm going to offer you here in a second. Wait, Rusty you practice what you preach. Yes, I do every day. So that's what I'm doing. Now if I'm putting this out to a search audience this is going to be different.

My message is not going to be me with a Thanos glove trying to interrupt him because they're already looking. They're looking for like how to get more traffic. I'm going to come to that. Hey, here's the review page. Here's five ways to get traffic, boom, boom, boom. And by the way, number one book to get traffic is this book right here which you will get it for free at trafficsecrets.com. I'm speaking to them differently. So you're categorizing people based on search versus interruption. And understanding that your ad campaigns are structured. All the things you're doing are different depending on which way people are coming into your worlds. Does that make sense? I think so many times people group traffic or advertising like just one thing. It's like, no, you guys are not understanding the intricacies of what you're doing.

And so I need you to understand that if I'm speaking to somebody who is searching for someone who I'm interrupting because it's different, my ad's different. My ad on my Google ad is not me running around going crazy or lighting my book on fire. But my ad on Instagram is, my ad on Facebook is. I've got to grab your attention just long enough to open a window so you will listen to my story so I can increase the perceived value of what I have to sell and I can make you an offer. And start thinking, I guess if you're thinking in your mind like oh my gosh, I've seen this over and over again. When I go to Google, I search for stuff. What are the landing pages look like? People are successful.

What do those ads look like? What are they saying? How are they speaking to me? I'm speaking them differently than I'm speaking to somebody who I'm interrupting. If I'm interrupting, I'm doing crazy videos, trying to capture your attention and to get you to like focus. And just long enough so I can grab you, grab your attention and tell you a story. So that's the key that we understand there. It's a little different, a little slight intricacies, little slight differences but it's the key to this whole game.

Oh yeah. So Google is a search platform. YouTube is interesting because YouTube is a search, but it's also a social. So YouTube is one of my favorites and there's a whole chapter here going deep into YouTube because it's a search and it's an interruption platform. And so there's different strategies when you're inside of that which are kind of fun. Facebook, Instagram, are interruption platforms. Other search based platforms like Quora, where you're going to you're searching questions, you're answering questions. That's a search based platform. So if you start looking at where to get traffic and you start thinking through it in your mind, realize there's search based, interruption based, there's two different things. And it's important because that's some of the foundational stuff you've got to understand as you're going after dream customers. So that again, yesterday's video and today's is all just secret number one, we haven't gotten to secret number two yet.

So let me come back real quick. So secret number one, I did introduction date number one yesterday or today and yesterday was who's your dream customer. And then today I talked about searcher versus scroller. You can see that in the video there. Tomorrow's video I'm going to go into secret number two, where are they hiding? So depending on if this is live with this tomorrow, if this is on YouTube or on a playlist, like there's probably a place here where you can watch the next one. But after we can go into next is where are they hiding the dream 100. Now really quick, now that I've grabbed your attention, I've told you a value increase the perceived value of this book. Hopefully now I'm hoping you want a copy of this so badly. So if you want one, guess what?

Right now during pre-launch, they are free. You just got to cover the shipping handling. This is the hardbound book. I've already paid for the printing of this thing, they're not cheap to print. So I paid for the printing. They are going to be shipping out on May 5th. Right now we are in pre-launch. We've almost sold 10,000 copies the first 24 hours, which is crazy, really proud of that. Proof of these traffic things we're talking about actually work. But you can get a copy right now. trafficsecrets.com during the pre-launch. Again, we ship these May 5th, but when you're buying this, one of the order form bumps as you go through the funnel is for the audio book. The audio book is done. I spent three days in a warehouse, not a warehouse, in a studio reading this entire book. You can get the audio book immediately.

And inside the audio book is actually links to a supplemental PDF that has all the doodles and stuff. So as you're listening, you can look at the doodles and make sure you understand the concepts. That's available today. You can start listening to the audio book right now. You just got to go to trafficsecrets.com, get a copy of the book. This ships May 5th and then the order form bump is the audio book so you can listen to it, which is awesome. Right now like 36% of you guys are taking the audio book. So that means that one third of you guys are ready to listen today. The rest of you is like, I'll worry about traffic in the future. But honestly, right now we're in scary times. I'm in quarantine right now, I'm sure most of you guys are in quarantine or at your house hanging out.

I'm recording this on phone, on my iPad because my film crews are in quarantine everywhere. Like it's chaos right now but you got to understand the most important thing in business for all of you guys in good times and in bad is traffic. It's the people, it's you having the ability to get your message in front of people. If you're not able to do that, it makes business really hard. If you are able to do that, makes business easy. So how do you get traffic? Not just how to get any traffic, how do you get the stuff that the buyer says, the underground playbook for filling your websites and funnels with your dream customers, not just any customers, your dream customers, the ones that have money, the ones that can afford your products, can afford your services. The ones you actually want to serve. And so that's the game plan you guys, that's Traffic Secrets.

Now it’s time to get yours at trafficsecrets.com. Someone said they ordered the book but never got a confirmation email. I'd look in your junk folder, email is like the least reliable thing on this planet. I hate email, I wish somebody would make something better than that. So all right. Oh, someone is asking, how much is the book? So the box of the first upsell is the box set. If you want the entire box, I won't spoil it for you, but when you go through the funnel, when you buy the Traffic Secrets book, the upsell is to get the whole box set. The box has Dotcom Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book, the Traffic Secrets, all hard bound. And these have all been updated. I added over 30,000 words to each of these books before the new hard bound versions came out. So these are all the three newest versions.

And also this is the Unlock Secrets Workbook. It's a 600 page workbook that comes with it. If you want this huge box set, it is the upsell at trafficsecrets.com but you got to get the book to be able to see the offer for the whole thing. So I'd recommend getting it because it's awesome. So anyway, I appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for hanging out today while you were at home or doing your thing. And just remembered that this is not a time to hide and do nothing. This the time to serve your audience to higher level. Go live, tell your story, tell your message. Give people a message of faith and hope. Don't stop selling things, don't stop promoting. If the economy, the best thing for the economy is for us entrepreneurs to keep doing what we're doing. If we stop all commerce from happening, this is horrible for the economy.

The scariest thing for me personally is not this virus, it's the economic repercussions of it. Our job as entrepreneurs is to keep doing what we're doing. If we stop, the economy will stop. And that's when it gets really, really, really scary. So yeah, keep producing you guys, keep publishing. I've been talking about this for years, and as you get deeper in Traffic Secrets book, one of the things I'm going to challenge everyone is publish every day for a year. Whether it's Facebook, Instagram platform, YouTube, I don't care.

Pick a platform and continually publish every single day for a year. If you do that, you'll have no more financial troubles in a year from now but you got to be consistent and start publishing. So I'm going to publish every day. Every day I'm going to be reading parts of the books for you. Hope you guys enjoyed today. Got some ideas out of it and I'll be back tomorrow with the next chapter, secret number two we're going into you guys. So between now and then, go get your copy of the book trafficsecrets.com. And I'll see you guys all again very, very soon. Thanks everybody, appreciate you all. And will talk to you soon. Bye.

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]]> 1626 no Protecting Yourself and Your Business From Weaknesses https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/protecting-yourself-and-your-business-from-weaknesses One weak spot could easily cause your company or your business to fail. Learn how to strengthen and fortify yourself against those weaknesses. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to talk about finding your weaknesses and fortifying against them so you can be protected in all aspects of your business and your life. What's up, everybody? Hope you guys are doing awesome today. We are less than two weeks away from Funnel Hacking Live as I'm recording this. In fact, I've been on Slide Smackdown, building out millions of slides, working on presentations, working on video. There's so much that goes into this. It is crazy, but we're having a good time. And I think we'll make it to the finish line in time, as long as nothing bad happens. So there you go. Those of you who are listening in some real time, you know that right now, we're still in the middle of this whole COVID pandemic thing and there's chaos and there's anyway, there's a lot of things. And so, but as they say in show business, the show must go on. Right? And so we are doing Funnel Hacking Live. We've got, I think about 3000 people coming live to the event. We got another two or 3000 people streaming it live from home. And so yeah, the party must go on. So we're excited. But at the same time, there's a lot of nervousness that comes around it, too, right, for all the obvious reasons. And so I want to talk about just the principle that I've been thinking about and trying to practice specifically around this event with my health, but it ties into so many aspects of your life. And there's actually, there's a story in the scriptures were they talk about this war that's happening right. Then there's the, not the village, but there's the city that's trying to protect itself. Right there in the city, and you look around the city. There's like these hills and these mounds, and there's mountains kind of protecting them. There's a couple of spots in the mountain where there's, it's easier for people to get through, right? So these weak spots where it's easier for an invading army could attack because it's like, these are the spots they'd attack. And so the guy who's the general of this army is looking at, "Okay, these are the weaknesses. If someone's going to attack us, they're not going to come over the mountain, not going to... They're going to come through this path or this path. And these are the spots that we're weak. Therefore we know these are our weaknesses. We need to fortify against that." So they brought troops and armies and things around the weak spots to protect themselves. And that way, when the enemy came, they will protect themselves and protect their land, Right. So there's the story, the scriptural story with the principle, right? It's finding your weak spots and fortifying against them. And so for me right now in this season is again, I'm about to go to Funnel Hacking Live and there will be a ton of people. And if I get sick, for whatever reason, it could be really, really bad because you could do the math. How many tickets times how much money per ticket times all the, it gets, it'd be really financially bad for the company. It'd be bad because people have flights, hotels. It would just be bad all around. So I need to make sure I'm there. And so the first thing I'm asking is like what are the potential things that would keep this from happening? Right. What are the potential weaknesses that could take me out of play. Right. And so think about it, one of them is if I fly there publicly, I'm in a plane with 2000 other people. What if, when I'm sick or whatever, that's a scary thing. So I was like, :Okay, I need to figure out a different way to get there." So we decided I fly private, right. So there's one way we protect ourselves. Number two, I need to make sure my immune system's good. Right. I have not had COVID yet. And so it's like, I haven't had it yet, but I got to make sure my immune system is protected. So what does that mean? Well, okay. What are the steps I need to take? What are the vitamins? What are the things? We've had doctors coming over? You mean IV drips and all sorts of stuff to like strengthen my immunity so that I can handle it, right. I've been trying, which is hard for me. I'm trying to get more sleep and trying to not stress, I'm trying to relax, all the things that typically weaken someone's immune system, right. So I'm finding those things, I'm trying to fortify against them. Now that doesn't mean, just like the story with the army, doesn't mean the army is not going to get through and attack them. They might, right. And maybe the army breaks through and even though fortified, it gets through, right. Like I could still get sick. I could still have different issues, like a million things that could happen, but I know where the weaknesses are. Therefore I should fortify against it, right, and try to protect myself. And so that's kind of the message. And so I want to show you guys because that's true in a lot of areas of life. For example, I'm not obviously the health guy I would recommend for everyone knowing, again, the situation the world's in right now is like looking at your own health. Where are my potential weaknesses? Do I need to lose weight? Do I need to get strength? Do I need to get more vitamins. What are the things you need to personally do to like protect yourself, right? I've got to be looking at those things and how do you fortify against. For you it could be different than me, right. Everyone's got different ways and I'm not going to go, and it's too politically charged to get into it. But if you believe that the vaccine or whatever is the way to do it, then go that way. If you believe that healthy, I don't care what it is. Pick what you personally believe and then fortify yourself against it, right. Look at the stats, look at the studies and figure out what those things are and then protect yourself, right. So there I'll leave that there, because again, it's ridiculous how charged this whole topic is, but it is. So I'm not going to say one way or the other what I believe or what I think you guys should believe because I don't care. When all is said and done, I think everyone should make decisions for themselves and figure out what's best for them, their family, but then go through it and like go intense on it. Don't, anyway. So then I want to transition to business because you guys come here to learn business from me, not to learn health. So let's talk about business. So I want you to think about, in your business, like what are the same things like everyone's got the same thing, right. There's there's weaknesses that you got to fortify against. I was thinking back the very first time that I was growing my business, very first collapse that I had was because I had no, I only had one traffic source. And so when that traffic source disappeared, my business disappeared as well, right. And I went through the crash right then because I hadn't fortified. If I had been smart, I was okay, but with my business where's the choke point. What's the thing that I'm weak at. Okay. It is, I only have one traffic source. Therefore I need to go there and fix that and strengthen it and put those things around it to protect it, right. So that was the first time. The second time my business crashed is because I only had one merchant provider and that one merchant buyer decided they didn't like my business, everything got shut down. Right. And it was my choke point I hadn't fortified against. So as we started building ClickFunnels, we were very strategic. "Hey, what are all the things that could happen? Like what are the things that could make our business fall down?" And we had to be very, talk about it very openly, because a lot of times we don't want to think about these kinds of things, right, because they don't sound good. But when it was like, what if Russell gets hit by a bus? What if Todd gets hit by a bus, right? What happens if a merchant account shuts us down? What happens if our auto responders, what happens if our traffic dries up? What if Facebook's ads stop working? What if, what if and we started thinking through all these different weaknesses, right. Just like the army general is looking at, here in the mountains where people are going to attack us, right. Or me going to an event. Like these are the things that could happen to make them not happen, right. If I got sick or if these different things so you're identifying, you're being very real, right. And you're having conversations that aren't fun to have, like Russell gets hit by a bus. That's not a fun conversation to have, what do we do, right. But it's looking at those things, identifying them and then say, "Okay, how do we fortify against these weaknesses? Okay. What are the things? What are the things I need to do to make sure I'm protecting myself, right? Do I have the second merchant account in case I need it? Do I have this, looking at all different pieces and having backup plans and having things in place." Because it's crazy how fast things happen in this industry, in this business. I seen so many people who have really good businesses who've lost them quickly because they didn't fortify because they ran the whole business on Facebook ads and Facebook shut down. They run their whole business on SEO and they got slapped, right. And so it's finding what are the choke holds in your business? And they're going to be different for everyone, right? Some of you might have a key employee who just runs everything. If that person disappeared, what would you do, right? Or a partner or you, right. And so it's something that I don't know the answer to, but I want to raise the question because I would be doing you guys a disservice if I didn't bring that up. So it's not running through your head. Because I didn't think about my traffic sources and the first time I got slapped. I didn't think about my merchant count, the second time I got slapped, right. I was looking at all the positive because we're entrepreneurs, we're looking at the positive, looking at the vision, looking at the future, we're looking at the things that we think are going to be so great,. Right. And we're not looking at like, "Oh, what if this happens? What if this happens? We're optimists, right?" And so everything's always going to work out. But the reality is sometimes it doesn't and if we're prepared for it, we fortified against that, we've got backup plans. We can move, we can shift. We can make those adjustments. If you don't, that's when you get in trouble. And so I want to protect you guys. So that was the point of this podcast episode is to protect yourself. The podcast cover image I'm using this time is me sitting at my desk with a whole bunch of IVs plugged into me because I spent seven hours yesterday with IVs of every known substance, known to man going into my blood system to protect me and increase my immune system and to help me have the energy and all the different things, right. And so it's those kinds of things that we're doing. And yeah, it's funny. I actually was Instagramming yesterday as I was doing it and I got tons of messages to people like, "Are you okay? Are you dying? Are you sick? What's happening?" And I'm like, "No, this is a preventative, right." And it's funny because most of us, and this comes back to us as humans being pessimistic or optimistic. We're optimists. My dad sells insurance or he did before he retired, but he sold insurance and the insurance that they would get the biggest bonuses and rewards for was selling life insurance. And I talked to my dad about this because life insurance, you don't have to have, right. But it's the one that's like the most important. But he says it was the hardest to sell because no one wants to think about that. Oh, I'm going to live forever. I'm going to be fine. And they pushed that out so it was very, very difficult to sell life insurance, yet it's the thing that's probably the most important of all of them, right? It's easy to sell car insurance, easy to sell house insurance, things like that. But the one that's the most critical, it's hard to sell because people are all optimistic. Oh I'm going to live forever. I'm going to be healthy. You know, whatever it is. And they don't think about it. And then it hits and it's too late. So same thing's true for us as entrepreneurs. We have to be thinking about those things and putting it in perspective. So, that said, prepare yourself, prepare your health, prepare your business, prepare your life, prepare your family. Look at the things that could go wrong and start building strength holds around them. Hope this helps. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for listening. And we'll see you on the next episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Protecting Yourself and Your Business From Weaknesses full 448 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One weak spot could easily cause your company or your business to fail. Learn how to strengthen and fortify yourself against those weaknesses. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey,... One weak spot could easily cause your company or your business to fail. Learn how to strengthen and fortify yourself against those weaknesses. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to talk about finding your weaknesses and fortifying against them so you can be protected in all aspects of your business and your life. What's up, everybody? Hope you guys are doing awesome today. We are less than two weeks away from Funnel Hacking Live as I'm recording this. In fact, I've been on Slide Smackdown, building out millions of slides, working on presentations, working on video. There's so much that goes into this. It is crazy, but we're having a good time. And I think we'll make it to the finish line in time, as long as nothing bad happens. So there you go. Those of you who are listening in some real time, you know that right now, we're still in the middle of this whole COVID pandemic thing and there's chaos and there's anyway, there's a lot of things. And so, but as they say in show business, the show must go on. Right? And so we are doing Funnel Hacking Live. We've got, I think about 3000 people coming live to the event. We got another two or 3000 people streaming it live from home. And so yeah, the party must go on. So we're excited. But at the same time, there's a lot of nervousness that comes around it, too, right, for all the obvious reasons. And so I want to talk about just the principle that I've been thinking about and trying to practice specifically around this event with my health, but it ties into so many aspects of your life. And there's actually, there's a story in the scriptures were they talk about this war that's happening right. Then there's the, not the village, but there's the city that's trying to protect itself. Right there in the city, and you look around the city. There's like these hills and these mounds, and there's mountains kind of protecting them. There's a couple of spots in the mountain where there's, it's easier for people to get through, right? So these weak spots where it's easier for an invading army could attack because it's like, these are the spots they'd attack. And so the guy who's the general of this army is looking at, "Okay, these are the weaknesses. If someone's going to attack us, they're not going to come over the mountain, not going to... They're going to come through this path or this path. And these are the spots that we're weak. Therefore we know these are our weaknesses. We need to fortify against that." So they brought troops and armies and things around the weak spots to protect themselves. And that way, when the enemy came, they will protect themselves and protect their land, Right. So there's the story, the scriptural story with the principle, right? It's finding your weak spots and fortifying against them. And so for me right now in this season is again, I'm about to go to Funnel Hacking Live and there will be a ton of people. And if I get sick, for whatever reason, it could be really, really bad because you could do the math. How many tickets times how much money per ticket times all the, it gets, it'd be really financially bad for the company. It'd be bad because people have flights, hotels. It would just be bad all around. So I need to make sure I'm there. And so the first thing I'm asking is like what are the potential things that would keep this from happening? Right. What are the potential weaknesses that could take me out of play. Right. And so think about it, one of them is if I fly there publicly, I'm in a plane with 2000 other people. What if, when I'm sick or whatever, that's a scary thing. So I was like, :Okay, I need to figure out a different way to get there." So we decided I fly private, right. So there's one way we protect ourselves. Number two, I need to make sure my immune system's good. Right. I have not had COVID yet. And so it's like, I haven't had it yet, but I got to make sure my immune system is protected. So what does that mean? Well, okay. What are the steps I need to take? What are the vitamins? What are the things? We've had doctors coming over? You mean IV drips and all sorts of stuff to like strengthen my immunity so that I can handle it, right. I've been trying, which is hard for me. I'm trying to get more sleep and trying to not stress, I'm trying to relax, all the things that typically weaken someone's immune system, right. So I'm finding those things, I'm trying to fortify against them. Now that doesn't mean, just like the story with the army, doesn't mean the army is not going to get through and attack them. They might, right. And maybe the army breaks through and even though fortified, it gets through, right. Like I could still get sick. I could still have different issues, like a million things that could happen, but I know where the weaknesses are. Therefore I should fortify against it, right, and try to protect myself. And so that's kind of the message. And so I want to show you guys because that's true in a lot of areas of life. For example, I'm not obviously the health guy I would recommend for everyone knowing, again, the situation the world's in right now is like looking at your own health. Where are my potential weaknesses? Do I need to lose weight? Do I need to get strength? Do I need to get more vitamins. What are the things you need to personally do to like protect yourself, right? I've got to be looking at those things and how do you fortify against. For you it could be different than me, right. Everyone's got different ways and I'm not going to go, and it's too politically charged to get into it. But if you believe that the vaccine or whatever is the way to do it, then go that way. If you believe that healthy, I don't care what it is. Pick what you personally believe and then fortify yourself against it, right. Look at the stats, look at the studies and figure out what those things are and then protect yourself, right. So there I'll leave that there, because again, it's ridiculous how charged this whole topic is, but it is. So I'm not going to say one way or the other what I believe or what I think you guys should believe because I don't care. When all is said and done, I think everyone should make decisions for themselves and figure out what's best for them, their family, but then go through it and like go intense on it. Don't, anyway. So then I want to transition to business because you guys come here to learn business from me, not to learn health. So let's talk about business. So I want you to think about, in your business, like what are the same things like everyone's got the same thing, right. There's there's weaknesses that you got to fortify against. I was thinking back the very first time that I was growing my business, very first collapse that I had was because I had no, I only had one traffic source. And so when that traffic source disappeared, my business disappeared as well, right. And I went through the crash right then because I hadn't fortified. If I had been smart, I was okay, but with my business where's the choke point. What's the thing that I'm weak at. Okay. It is, I only have one traffic source. Therefore I need to go there and fix that and strengthen it and put those things around it to protect it, right. So that was the first time. The second time my business crashed is because I only had one merchant provider and that one merchant buyer decided they didn't like my business, everything got shut down. Right. And it was my choke point I hadn't fortified against. So as we started building ClickFunnels, we were very strategic. "Hey, what are all the things that could happen? Like what are the things that could make our business fall down?" And we had to be very, talk about it very openly, because a lot of times we don't want to think about these kinds of things, right, because they don't sound good. But when it was like, what if Russell gets hit by a bus? What if Todd gets hit by a bus, right? What happens if a merchant account shuts us down? What happens if our auto responders, what happens if our traffic dries up? What if Facebook's ads stop working? What if, what if and we started thinking through all these different weaknesses, right. Just like the army general is looking at, here in the mountains where people are going to attack us, right. Or me going to an event. Like these are the things that could happen to make them not happen, right. If I got sick or if these different things so you're identifying, you're being very real, right. And you're having conversations that aren't fun to have, like Russell gets hit by a bus. That's not a fun conversation to have, what do we do, right. But it's looking at those things, identifying them and then say, "Okay, how do we fortify against these weaknesses? Okay. What are the things? What are the things I need to do to make sure I'm protecting myself, right? Do I have the second merchant account in case I need it? Do I have this, looking at all different pieces and having backup plans and having things in place." Because it's crazy how fast things happen in this industry, in this business. I seen so many people who have really good businesses who've lost them quickly because they didn't fortify because they ran the whole business on Facebook ads and Facebook shut down. They run their whole business on SEO and they got slapped, right. And so it's finding what are the choke holds in your business? And they're going to be different for everyone, right? Some of you might have a key employee who just runs everything. If that person disappeared, what would you do, right? Or a partner or you, right. And so it's something that I don't know the answer to, but I want to raise the question because I would be doing you guys a disservice if I didn't bring that up. So it's not running through your head. Because I didn't think about my traffic sources and the first time I got slapped. I didn't think about my merchant count, the second time I got slapped, right. I was looking at all the positive because we're entrepreneurs, we're looking at the positive, looking at the vision, looking at the future, we're looking at the things that we think are going to be so great,. Right. And we're not looking at like, "Oh, what if this happens? What if this happens? We're optimists, right?" And so everything's always going to work out. But the reality is sometimes it doesn't and if we're prepared for it, we fortified against that, we've got backup plans. We can move, we can shift. We can make those adjustments. If you don't, that's when you get in trouble. And so I want to protect you guys. So that was the point of this podcast episode is to protect yourself. The podcast cover image I'm using this time is me sitting at my desk with a whole bunch of IVs plugged into me because I spent seven hours yesterday with IVs of every known substance, known to man going into my blood system to protect me and increase my immune system and to help me have the energy and all the different things, right. And so it's those kinds of things that we're doing. And yeah, it's funny. I actually was Instagramming yesterday as I was doing it and I got tons of messages to people like, "Are you okay? Are you dying? Are you sick? What's happening?" And I'm like, "No, this is a preventative, right." And it's funny because most of us, and this comes back to us as humans being pessimistic or optimistic. We're optimists. My dad sells insurance or he did before he retired, but he sold insurance and the insurance that they would get the biggest bonuses and rewards for was selling life insurance. And I talked to my dad about this because life insurance, you don't have to have, right. But it's the one that's like the most important. But he says it was the hardest to sell because no one wants to think about that. Oh, I'm going to live forever. I'm going to be fine. And they pushed that out so it was very, very difficult to sell life insurance, yet it's the thing that's probably the most important of all of them, right? It's easy to sell car insurance, easy to sell house insurance, things like that. But the one that's the most critical, it's hard to sell because people are all optimistic. Oh I'm going to live forever. I'm going to be healthy. You know, whatever it is. And they don't think about it. And then it hits and it's too late. So same thing's true for us as entrepreneurs. We have to be thinking about those things and putting it in perspective. So, that said, prepare yourself, prepare your health, prepare your business, prepare your life, prepare your family. Look at the things that could go wrong and start building strength holds around them. Hope this helps. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for listening. And we'll see you on the next episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One weak spot could easily cause your company or your business to fail. Learn how to strengthen and fortify yourself against those weaknesses.

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Hey, what's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to talk about finding your weaknesses and fortifying against them so you can be protected in all aspects of your business and your life.

What's up, everybody? Hope you guys are doing awesome today. We are less than two weeks away from Funnel Hacking Live as I'm recording this. In fact, I've been on Slide Smackdown, building out millions of slides, working on presentations, working on video. There's so much that goes into this. It is crazy, but we're having a good time. And I think we'll make it to the finish line in time, as long as nothing bad happens. So there you go. Those of you who are listening in some real time, you know that right now, we're still in the middle of this whole COVID pandemic thing and there's chaos and there's anyway, there's a lot of things.

And so, but as they say in show business, the show must go on. Right? And so we are doing Funnel Hacking Live. We've got, I think about 3000 people coming live to the event. We got another two or 3000 people streaming it live from home. And so yeah, the party must go on. So we're excited. But at the same time, there's a lot of nervousness that comes around it, too, right, for all the obvious reasons. And so I want to talk about just the principle that I've been thinking about and trying to practice specifically around this event with my health, but it ties into so many aspects of your life. And there's actually, there's a story in the scriptures were they talk about this war that's happening right. Then there's the, not the village, but there's the city that's trying to protect itself. Right there in the city, and you look around the city. There's like these hills and these mounds, and there's mountains kind of protecting them. There's a couple of spots in the mountain where there's, it's easier for people to get through, right? So these weak spots where it's easier for an invading army could attack because it's like, these are the spots they'd attack.

And so the guy who's the general of this army is looking at, "Okay, these are the weaknesses. If someone's going to attack us, they're not going to come over the mountain, not going to... They're going to come through this path or this path. And these are the spots that we're weak. Therefore we know these are our weaknesses. We need to fortify against that." So they brought troops and armies and things around the weak spots to protect themselves. And that way, when the enemy came, they will protect themselves and protect their land, Right. So there's the story, the scriptural story with the principle, right? It's finding your weak spots and fortifying against them. And so for me right now in this season is again, I'm about to go to Funnel Hacking Live and there will be a ton of people. And if I get sick, for whatever reason, it could be really, really bad because you could do the math. How many tickets times how much money per ticket times all the, it gets, it'd be really financially bad for the company. It'd be bad because people have flights, hotels. It would just be bad all around. So I need to make sure I'm there. And so the first thing I'm asking is like what are the potential things that would keep this from happening? Right.

What are the potential weaknesses that could take me out of play. Right. And so think about it, one of them is if I fly there publicly, I'm in a plane with 2000 other people. What if, when I'm sick or whatever, that's a scary thing. So I was like, :Okay, I need to figure out a different way to get there." So we decided I fly private, right. So there's one way we protect ourselves. Number two, I need to make sure my immune system's good. Right. I have not had COVID yet. And so it's like, I haven't had it yet, but I got to make sure my immune system is protected. So what does that mean? Well, okay. What are the steps I need to take? What are the vitamins? What are the things? We've had doctors coming over? You mean IV drips and all sorts of stuff to like strengthen my immunity so that I can handle it, right. I've been trying, which is hard for me. I'm trying to get more sleep and trying to not stress, I'm trying to relax, all the things that typically weaken someone's immune system, right. So I'm finding those things, I'm trying to fortify against them.

Now that doesn't mean, just like the story with the army, doesn't mean the army is not going to get through and attack them. They might, right. And maybe the army breaks through and even though fortified, it gets through, right. Like I could still get sick. I could still have different issues, like a million things that could happen, but I know where the weaknesses are. Therefore I should fortify against it, right, and try to protect myself. And so that's kind of the message.

And so I want to show you guys because that's true in a lot of areas of life. For example, I'm not obviously the health guy I would recommend for everyone knowing, again, the situation the world's in right now is like looking at your own health. Where are my potential weaknesses? Do I need to lose weight? Do I need to get strength? Do I need to get more vitamins. What are the things you need to personally do to like protect yourself, right? I've got to be looking at those things and how do you fortify against. For you it could be different than me, right. Everyone's got different ways and I'm not going to go, and it's too politically charged to get into it. But if you believe that the vaccine or whatever is the way to do it, then go that way. If you believe that healthy, I don't care what it is. Pick what you personally believe and then fortify yourself against it, right. Look at the stats, look at the studies and figure out what those things are and then protect yourself, right. So there I'll leave that there, because again, it's ridiculous how charged this whole topic is, but it is.

So I'm not going to say one way or the other what I believe or what I think you guys should believe because I don't care. When all is said and done, I think everyone should make decisions for themselves and figure out what's best for them, their family, but then go through it and like go intense on it. Don't, anyway. So then I want to transition to business because you guys come here to learn business from me, not to learn health. So let's talk about business.

So I want you to think about, in your business, like what are the same things like everyone's got the same thing, right. There's there's weaknesses that you got to fortify against. I was thinking back the very first time that I was growing my business, very first collapse that I had was because I had no, I only had one traffic source. And so when that traffic source disappeared, my business disappeared as well, right. And I went through the crash right then because I hadn't fortified. If I had been smart, I was okay, but with my business where's the choke point. What's the thing that I'm weak at. Okay. It is, I only have one traffic source. Therefore I need to go there and fix that and strengthen it and put those things around it to protect it, right. So that was the first time.

The second time my business crashed is because I only had one merchant provider and that one merchant buyer decided they didn't like my business, everything got shut down. Right. And it was my choke point I hadn't fortified against. So as we started building ClickFunnels, we were very strategic. "Hey, what are all the things that could happen? Like what are the things that could make our business fall down?" And we had to be very, talk about it very openly, because a lot of times we don't want to think about these kinds of things, right, because they don't sound good. But when it was like, what if Russell gets hit by a bus? What if Todd gets hit by a bus, right? What happens if a merchant account shuts us down? What happens if our auto responders, what happens if our traffic dries up? What if Facebook's ads stop working? What if, what if and we started thinking through all these different weaknesses, right. Just like the army general is looking at, here in the mountains where people are going to attack us, right. Or me going to an event. Like these are the things that could happen to make them not happen, right. If I got sick or if these different things so you're identifying, you're being very real, right.

And you're having conversations that aren't fun to have, like Russell gets hit by a bus. That's not a fun conversation to have, what do we do, right. But it's looking at those things, identifying them and then say, "Okay, how do we fortify against these weaknesses? Okay. What are the things? What are the things I need to do to make sure I'm protecting myself, right? Do I have the second merchant account in case I need it? Do I have this, looking at all different pieces and having backup plans and having things in place." Because it's crazy how fast things happen in this industry, in this business. I seen so many people who have really good businesses who've lost them quickly because they didn't fortify because they ran the whole business on Facebook ads and Facebook shut down. They run their whole business on SEO and they got slapped, right. And so it's finding what are the choke holds in your business? And they're going to be different for everyone, right? Some of you might have a key employee who just runs everything. If that person disappeared, what would you do, right? Or a partner or you, right. And so it's something that I don't know the answer to, but I want to raise the question because I would be doing you guys a disservice if I didn't bring that up.

So it's not running through your head. Because I didn't think about my traffic sources and the first time I got slapped. I didn't think about my merchant count, the second time I got slapped, right. I was looking at all the positive because we're entrepreneurs, we're looking at the positive, looking at the vision, looking at the future, we're looking at the things that we think are going to be so great,. Right. And we're not looking at like, "Oh, what if this happens? What if this happens? We're optimists, right?" And so everything's always going to work out. But the reality is sometimes it doesn't and if we're prepared for it, we fortified against that, we've got backup plans. We can move, we can shift. We can make those adjustments. If you don't, that's when you get in trouble. And so I want to protect you guys.

So that was the point of this podcast episode is to protect yourself. The podcast cover image I'm using this time is me sitting at my desk with a whole bunch of IVs plugged into me because I spent seven hours yesterday with IVs of every known substance, known to man going into my blood system to protect me and increase my immune system and to help me have the energy and all the different things, right. And so it's those kinds of things that we're doing. And yeah, it's funny. I actually was Instagramming yesterday as I was doing it and I got tons of messages to people like, "Are you okay? Are you dying? Are you sick? What's happening?" And I'm like, "No, this is a preventative, right." And it's funny because most of us, and this comes back to us as humans being pessimistic or optimistic. We're optimists.

My dad sells insurance or he did before he retired, but he sold insurance and the insurance that they would get the biggest bonuses and rewards for was selling life insurance. And I talked to my dad about this because life insurance, you don't have to have, right. But it's the one that's like the most important. But he says it was the hardest to sell because no one wants to think about that. Oh, I'm going to live forever. I'm going to be fine. And they pushed that out so it was very, very difficult to sell life insurance, yet it's the thing that's probably the most important of all of them, right? It's easy to sell car insurance, easy to sell house insurance, things like that. But the one that's the most critical, it's hard to sell because people are all optimistic. Oh I'm going to live forever. I'm going to be healthy. You know, whatever it is. And they don't think about it. And then it hits and it's too late.

So same thing's true for us as entrepreneurs. We have to be thinking about those things and putting it in perspective. So, that said, prepare yourself, prepare your health, prepare your business, prepare your life, prepare your family. Look at the things that could go wrong and start building strength holds around them. Hope this helps. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for listening. And we'll see you on the next episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 740 no The Webinar Bombed... Now What? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-webinar-bombed-now-what Even for me who has done literally hundreds and hundreds of webinars, sometimes they don’t work. What are the adjustments we make to make it work better next time? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey. What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I'm going to tell you about my most recent failure, that happened yesterday. All right, everybody. So usually, on most things you have a chance to hear the highlight reel. Normally I will tell you a story about how like, "Oh, five years ago, six years ago, I did a webinar and it bombed, and now I'm amazing." But rarely do you get to hear me talk about my failures in the midst of the failures, when I'm still licking my wounds and trying to figure it all out. So, that's our mood today. I hope you guys don't mind. It's actually interesting. A lot of you have heard my story about 10X, where I did $3.2 million in 90 minutes. What a lot of you don't know is like two months prior to that, I had spoken at an event, and I had tweaked my pitch a little bit. I did the pitch in a little small audience, and it completely bombed. And you know, two and a half months later I did it at 10X and killed it. And I told the story about 10X and I killed it because that's the story that's fun to tell, but I didn't tell the story about how two months earlier, I did a webinar to a group of people and completely bombed. Or not a webinar. Like a live event. That's the thing about this game. There's always the ebbs and the flows, the ups and the downs. I've been reading a new book by Tim... Tim something. Dang it. I should know this. Tim Grover. Tim Glover. Something. Anyway, it's called Winning. He wrote one called Relentless, which was good, but Winning is way better. Talking about winning in there. He's like, "Winning is unforgiving. Winning doesn't care about you. Winning, there's ups and the downs, and it's just... " Anyway, so today, or after yesterday I'm like I feel like winning is beating me up a little bit. But it's okay, because it's how you learn. And so, but I'm just like everybody else. Like yesterday... And I did a webinar yesterday, or a podcast yesterday, so if you listen to the last podcast, you'll hear me talk a little about this. But I was excited. We bought a new company. We spent multiple eight figures on the new company, so it wasn't small, and we were doing a webinar to the customer list to sell ClickFunnels. Because the whole purpose of buying this company was to use it as a front end to hopefully people in ClickFunnels, right? And so, I'm all excited because we're going to turn these people into ClickFunnels members. It's going to be amazing. Anyway, so I do this webinar. And first off, I'm like, "Dude. Well, I'm on fire. Things are feeling good." And then I look over at the comments, because at a couple parts I played little videos. So the videos, I looked at the comments, and oh my gosh. These people, my new customers that I just spent multiple eight figures on, are not happy. They are pissed. They don't like the webinar. They don't like the beat. They think I talk too fast. They think that this is like an MLM pitch. They think all of the things. And I start reading these things by a whole bunch of people, and John on my team runs in. He's like, "The comments are going south." I'm like, "Yeah. I don't know what to do." I'm doing a webinar. The whole bunch of people, I've got to keep going. And so I get back on. I do the whole webinar. And afterwards, you know. What I was expecting to be a high six figure day, maybe seven figure day, ended up being a five figure. A low five figure day. I was like, "Oh, man. That was not good." Because I've got to pay back multiple eight figures. I needed this to convert better than it did. So at first I was just like, the initial was just like anger, and then depression. These are all in the moment, right? And then it's just like I want to be depressed. I want to go hide. I just want to quit. But then I'm like, "I can't quit. I need to pay back the loan that we took out for this company. I've got to figure this out." Right? So after being kind of bummed for a little bit, then it was like, "Okay. I've got to figure this out." So after about an hour of me moping and wanting just to quit and run and hide in a hole and everything... Because it's weird. I don't know about you guys, but there's so many emotions. I'm not sure if you saw the 10X documentary. If not, I think it's 10xdocumentary.com. We did a whole documentary on this. But I spoke at the first 10X. We had $3.2 million in sales. The next 10X was in a stadium. It was three times as big. 35,000 people. Everyone thought I was going to make a billion dollars, and I bombed at it. We have a whole documentary documenting the bomb. But the thing for me is it's hard for a couple reasons. Number one is like I always want people on my team to feel the energy of what we're doing. Right? Because the more excited they are, they're more excited about their jobs and what we're doing. And so, leading this webinar, we had 7,500 people register, and we're talking to them and getting them excited. And the day of the webinar I message them, "It's webinar day. It's going to be so much fun." Like we're pumped and excited, and the webinar is happening. And then when it doesn't happen, partially it's like, "Oh, I feel like I let all of them down. Right?" Because the 10X thing, if you watch the documentary, I felt the same way. I felt like I let all these people down. We flew all these people in, and everyone was excited to see this thing, and it didn't happen. And so, like ugh. Partially it's me licking my wounds, because I felt like I let everybody down. The second half for me is just like embarrassing. Right? I'm a performer. I'm an athlete. I'm an entrepreneur. I step up, I perform. And when I step up and don't perform, it's embarrassing. Right? One of my friends, he's a UFC fighter. He fought a big fight. He's in the top four or five. This is just like a month ago. Two or three weeks ago, actually. And he went out there and he lost in the first round. He got tapped out. And he went to Instagram instantly afterwards and posted. He's like, "I'm embarrassed." That's how I feel. It's like it's embarrassing. Just embarrassing. Even my wife. I get home, and Colette's like, "How'd it go?" And I'm like, "Uh, I just want to crawl in a hole and hide." So, I'm telling you these things for a couple reasons. Number one, I want you to know that I go through it as well. Because I'm sure you guys go through this too, right? Where you're expecting this, and then this comes in and you're frustrated or depressed or angry. All of the emotions come in, right? So I wanted to share with you, hopefully to help you just understand that even me, at this level in the game for me, I still go through that. I'm going through it right now, like in the middle of it. In the middle of being embarrassed and being frustrated. Like I didn't even want to go to the office today. I just want to sit at home and watch movies and eat ice cream. That sounds good, actually. Maybe I will do that. Just kidding. Well, I'm not completely ruling it out yet, but anyway. But then the second half is where the lesson is. Because after licking my wounds and being depressed and being embarrassed, and all the emotions that come with that, then I was like, "Well, I've got a job to do." Right? And wrestling is the same way. I lose a match, be frustrated, embarrassed, angry, all the things, and then it's like, "Well, I've got to come back and win this tournament." Or, you know. Placed third in this tournament. "I've got to come back and compete in the next tournament. I've got to come back and like... " So now it's like what are the adjustments I make? I'm like, "Okay. Well, the webinar didn't work, so I'm not going to go set out 500 replay emails, because it didn't work, and so it's not worth the effort. Right? So we're calling an audible. We're shifting that." Number two, it's like, "Okay. We misunderstood our audience." Right? The audience who I thought they were were definitely not who they were, so who is the audience? I've got to figure this out. Like Danny Kennedy 101, message to market match. My message did not match the market, right? So I've got to figure this out. In fact, when we lost ClickFunnels the first five times, it was an interesting thing. Same thing. The first five launches of ClickFunnels failed, failed, failed, failed, failed. And number six is when it hit, because I'd figured out the message to market match. What is the message that this market needs to buy the product? So I realized I had a message to market mismatch. So the first question is, who is the actual market? So we started digging through the data, and like who are they. I assumed they were this. They're not. So, who are they? And I figured that out. Okay, now what is the purpose? Why are they buying this product? Why did they come into this room? Why in this ecosystem? What's the reasoning they had? Okay, now we know that. Now the mechanism. I just talked about getting from zero to a million bucks. First off is like you've got to figure out who is it you're selling, then you start figuring out what is it you're actually selling, and then how you're selling it. The what and the how, right? And so, I know the what's ClickFunnels. It's like it has to be that. That's the whole purpose, right? So I know who now. The who, I misunderstood the who. Number two is like what? Well, I'm still selling the same what. So, the last one is how. What is the mechanism? What's the thing that we're using to sell? Right? And I thought that the webinar was going to be the thing to sell everybody. Now that I quickly figured out, okay, the webinar's not the thing. Okay, well what is the thing? How am I going to sell people this product? I'm like, well they just bought... I'm looking at what the product they just purchased, which is video creation software that helps make doodle videos and things like that, right? So it's like, okay, this is the mechanism that they bought, right? They're buying software that helps them do this, so I need to use that same mechanism to convert them. So, right now I am in the process. Within an hour of me bombing the webinar, I had hired a writer to start on this process. But now we're working on a Video Sales Letter for my OGs. We call them VSLs, for those who are newer. It's called a Video Sales Letter, VSL. And we're going to hand sketch out the VSL. So, someone comes in. They bought software that does VSLs. I'm going to have them hand sketch out a VSL. We're going to have them surveying the VSL to figure out which audience they are, and then the VSL will change on the fly, depending on who they are. So if, "This person is this market or this market or this market or this," who they are, it will speak specifically to that who, and bridge the gap on why they now need ClickFunnels. So that is the second test, and that test may bomb. I may go and spend a month trying to build this thing out, paying to hand do all the videos, all of the thing, and it may completely bomb. But that's the game, right? It's trying and failing, trying and failing. But it comes back to understanding it's the core things, right? Understanding, okay, who is the market? Right? The market to message match. Who is the market? What's the message you need to actually convert that, and keep tweaking that and change that until you figure it out. ClickFunnels, I failed five times. Five launches before we hit it. And I could have easily failed on the first or the second or the third or the fourth or the fifth, but I didn't, luckily. Thank heavens. Woo hoo. Otherwise most of you guys wouldn't even be here. And I kept working until we figured it out. Three weeks before... Or two weeks. Whatever it was. A month ago. A month before the 10X event, I tried my presentation, and I flopped. I tweaked the market to method match, tweaked those things, and then a month later, whatever it was, at 10X, boom. $3.2 million in sales. Right? So, it's our ability to look at the failures, lick our wounds quickly, and then make the adjustments that are the key to winning this game. Okay? Because man, I don't care what level you are. I don't care if you do this for 20 years, like I had. I don't care if you've done that webinar 150 times live, and you know exactly what words to say in order to get people to buy. If it fails, sometimes it does, and you've got to come back and figure out what are the adjustments. My buddy who's a UFC fighter, right? Lost in the match. He's going to come back and look at the adjustments. What are the adjustments he's got to make? I think that's where a lot of people, they fail. It's that they failed, and then they think that they're a failure, as opposed to like, "I failed. Crap. That method didn't work, but I'm stubborn, and I've got pigheadedness. I'm going to keep trying and keep trying and keep trying." And for me with ClickFunnels, six times, we got it. Gave this offer. It may even take six times. Maybe eight, maybe 10, maybe 15, maybe 30. But I have to make it work, right? And the same thing's got to be true for you. Okay? If it hasn't worked yet, all right. That's okay. Let's get back to the drawing board, and you've got to think. Did I mess up on the message? Is the market wrong? What do I got to tweak? And keep doing it until you've figured out the method that's going to work for that audience. So, anyway. I hope that helps. You guys are hearing me talk about it in the midst of the pain, as opposed to later. They always say in vulnerability, like show your scars but not your open wounds, but I've got an open wound. There it is. I just dumped some salt on it to embarrass myself in front of you guys even more, because that's how much I love you guys. But hopefully it gives you some understanding in some of the things you need to be able to lick your wounds and get back up and keep trying, because it's going to happen. It happened to me. It's going to happen to you. It's going to happen to other people. But the ones who win are the ones who are able to sit in the frustration of the moment for a moment. Because as annoying as it is, it feels good to be like, "Duh," and letting that pain just kind of writhe inside of you. You know, it's like someone stabbing you and turning the knife, twisting the knife. It's like I want to feel that pain, so I can be angry enough and frustrated enough to do the work to figure it out. Because if you're like, "Oh, I failed. Whatever. You know, win some, lose some," and keep moving on, you're not going to be successful. I want to sit in that pain for a little bit, so I can be like, "Ah, I'm so angry. I'm so embarrassed. I'm so frustrated." Like all of the things, and twisting that knife, because that's what gets you to be like, "Okay. I've got to change this. I've got to figure something out." Right? And that's what gives you the fuel you need to make the adjustments and to change, right? I mean, losing. I lose a wrestling match, that pain and that frustration, that embarrassment, those things are the things that drive me now to get back in the gym and to figure things out. And as an entrepreneur, the same thing. You bomb a campaign. All right. Let it hurt. Feel it. Okay, now you feel that? That sucks, right? Okay, now let's get back to work and let's fix this thing. And that's kind of the way you guys got to be looking at. That's the way I'm looking at it, right? The annoyance and the pain of me bombing on this thing is the fuel that I need to fix it, and I'm excited now to fix it. Still upset, still frustrated, still have that pain in my gut from failing, but that's okay. Again, that's the thing that's going to drive me through figuring it out. And we're going to figure it out. And when I figure it out I'll share it with you guys, because I have to figure it out. It's just not like, "Oh, that'd be nice." It's like, "No, I'm multiple eight figures in the hole right now in this company. We've got to figure out how to turn it around." And I will. We'll figure it out. But this is my mindset. This is how I'm doing. These are the things I'm looking at. Okay? What was the market? What did I screw up on? Right? What's the message? Where did I screw up there? Okay, what am I selling, and how am I selling it? What are the methodologies? What do I got to tweak? What do I got to change? And those things put together is how I win this game. So just remember, you guys. It's a game. Don't let it stress you out. Don't let it keep you up at nights. But realize it's a game that you're playing. If you want to win, you've got to be able to move, to adjust, and yeah. So, there you go. I appreciate you guys. Thank you for listening. If you enjoyed this episode and learned something, please share it. Let people know. That's the best thing you could do for me, is tell someone. Like, "Dude, go listen to Russell's podcast this week." Or if you hate it, then don't. That's cool, too. I get it. I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea, as they say, which is totally fine by me. So for my people, you'll hear my voice, and hopefully this will help you. So thanks again for listening, and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Webinar Bombed... Now What? full 447 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Even for me who has done literally hundreds and hundreds of webinars, sometimes they don’t work. What are the adjustments we make to make it work better next time? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ... Even for me who has done literally hundreds and hundreds of webinars, sometimes they don’t work. What are the adjustments we make to make it work better next time? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey. What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I'm going to tell you about my most recent failure, that happened yesterday. All right, everybody. So usually, on most things you have a chance to hear the highlight reel. Normally I will tell you a story about how like, "Oh, five years ago, six years ago, I did a webinar and it bombed, and now I'm amazing." But rarely do you get to hear me talk about my failures in the midst of the failures, when I'm still licking my wounds and trying to figure it all out. So, that's our mood today. I hope you guys don't mind. It's actually interesting. A lot of you have heard my story about 10X, where I did $3.2 million in 90 minutes. What a lot of you don't know is like two months prior to that, I had spoken at an event, and I had tweaked my pitch a little bit. I did the pitch in a little small audience, and it completely bombed. And you know, two and a half months later I did it at 10X and killed it. And I told the story about 10X and I killed it because that's the story that's fun to tell, but I didn't tell the story about how two months earlier, I did a webinar to a group of people and completely bombed. Or not a webinar. Like a live event. That's the thing about this game. There's always the ebbs and the flows, the ups and the downs. I've been reading a new book by Tim... Tim something. Dang it. I should know this. Tim Grover. Tim Glover. Something. Anyway, it's called Winning. He wrote one called Relentless, which was good, but Winning is way better. Talking about winning in there. He's like, "Winning is unforgiving. Winning doesn't care about you. Winning, there's ups and the downs, and it's just... " Anyway, so today, or after yesterday I'm like I feel like winning is beating me up a little bit. But it's okay, because it's how you learn. And so, but I'm just like everybody else. Like yesterday... And I did a webinar yesterday, or a podcast yesterday, so if you listen to the last podcast, you'll hear me talk a little about this. But I was excited. We bought a new company. We spent multiple eight figures on the new company, so it wasn't small, and we were doing a webinar to the customer list to sell ClickFunnels. Because the whole purpose of buying this company was to use it as a front end to hopefully people in ClickFunnels, right? And so, I'm all excited because we're going to turn these people into ClickFunnels members. It's going to be amazing. Anyway, so I do this webinar. And first off, I'm like, "Dude. Well, I'm on fire. Things are feeling good." And then I look over at the comments, because at a couple parts I played little videos. So the videos, I looked at the comments, and oh my gosh. These people, my new customers that I just spent multiple eight figures on, are not happy. They are pissed. They don't like the webinar. They don't like the beat. They think I talk too fast. They think that this is like an MLM pitch. They think all of the things. And I start reading these things by a whole bunch of people, and John on my team runs in. He's like, "The comments are going south." I'm like, "Yeah. I don't know what to do." I'm doing a webinar. The whole bunch of people, I've got to keep going. And so I get back on. I do the whole webinar. And afterwards, you know. What I was expecting to be a high six figure day, maybe seven figure day, ended up being a five figure. A low five figure day. I was like, "Oh, man. That was not good." Because I've got to pay back multiple eight figures. I needed this to convert better than it did. So at first I was just like, the initial was just like anger, and then depression. These are all in the moment, right? And then it's just like I want to be depressed. I want to go hide. I just want to quit. But then I'm like, "I can't quit. I need to pay back the loan that we took out for this company. I've got to figure this out." Right? So after being kind of bummed for a little bit, then it was like, "Okay. I've got to figure this out." So after about an hour of me moping and wanting just to quit and run and hide in a hole and everything... Because it's weird. I don't know about you guys, but there's so many emotions. I'm not sure if you saw the 10X documentary. If not, I think it's 10xdocumentary.com. We did a whole documentary on this. But I spoke at the first 10X. We had $3.2 million in sales. The next 10X was in a stadium. It was three times as big. 35,000 people. Everyone thought I was going to make a billion dollars, and I bombed at it. We have a whole documentary documenting the bomb. But the thing for me is it's hard for a couple reasons. Number one is like I always want people on my team to feel the energy of what we're doing. Right? Because the more excited they are, they're more excited about their jobs and what we're doing. And so, leading this webinar, we had 7,500 people register, and we're talking to them and getting them excited. And the day of the webinar I message them, "It's webinar day. It's going to be so much fun." Like we're pumped and excited, and the webinar is happening. And then when it doesn't happen, partially it's like, "Oh, I feel like I let all of them down. Right?" Because the 10X thing, if you watch the documentary, I felt the same way. I felt like I let all these people down. We flew all these people in, and everyone was excited to see this thing, and it didn't happen. And so, like ugh. Partially it's me licking my wounds, because I felt like I let everybody down. The second half for me is just like embarrassing. Right? I'm a performer. I'm an athlete. I'm an entrepreneur. I step up, I perform. And when I step up and don't perform, it's embarrassing. Right? One of my friends, he's a UFC fighter. He fought a big fight. He's in the top four or five. This is just like a month ago. Two or three weeks ago, actually. And he went out there and he lost in the first round. He got tapped out. And he went to Instagram instantly afterwards and posted. He's like, "I'm embarrassed." That's how I feel. It's like it's embarrassing. Just embarrassing. Even my wife. I get home, and Colette's like, "How'd it go?" And I'm like, "Uh, I just want to crawl in a hole and hide." So, I'm telling you these things for a couple reasons. Number one, I want you to know that I go through it as well. Because I'm sure you guys go through this too, right? Where you're expecting this, and then this comes in and you're frustrated or depressed or angry. All of the emotions come in, right? So I wanted to share with you, hopefully to help you just understand that even me, at this level in the game for me, I still go through that. I'm going through it right now, like in the middle of it. In the middle of being embarrassed and being frustrated. Like I didn't even want to go to the office today. I just want to sit at home and watch movies and eat ice cream. That sounds good, actually. Maybe I will do that. Just kidding. Well, I'm not completely ruling it out yet, but anyway. But then the second half is where the lesson is. Because after licking my wounds and being depressed and being embarrassed, and all the emotions that come with that, then I was like, "Well, I've got a job to do." Right? And wrestling is the same way. I lose a match, be frustrated, embarrassed, angry, all the things, and then it's like, "Well, I've got to come back and win this tournament." Or, you know. Placed third in this tournament. "I've got to come back and compete in the next tournament. I've got to come back and like... " So now it's like what are the adjustments I make? I'm like, "Okay. Well, the webinar didn't work, so I'm not going to go set out 500 replay emails, because it didn't work, and so it's not worth the effort. Right? So we're calling an audible. We're shifting that." Number two, it's like, "Okay. We misunderstood our audience." Right? The audience who I thought they were were definitely not who they were, so who is the audience? I've got to figure this out. Like Danny Kennedy 101, message to market match. My message did not match the market, right? So I've got to figure this out. In fact, when we lost ClickFunnels the first five times, it was an interesting thing. Same thing. The first five launches of ClickFunnels failed, failed, failed, failed, failed. And number six is when it hit, because I'd figured out the message to market match. What is the message that this market needs to buy the product? So I realized I had a message to market mismatch. So the first question is, who is the actual market? So we started digging through the data, and like who are they. I assumed they were this. They're not. So, who are they? And I figured that out. Okay, now what is the purpose? Why are they buying this product? Why did they come into this room? Why in this ecosystem? What's the reasoning they had? Okay, now we know that. Now the mechanism. I just talked about getting from zero to a million bucks. First off is like you've got to figure out who is it you're selling, then you start figuring out what is it you're actually selling, and then how you're selling it. The what and the how, right? And so, I know the what's ClickFunnels. It's like it has to be that. That's the whole purpose, right? So I know who now. The who, I misunderstood the who. Number two is like what? Well, I'm still selling the same what. So, the last one is how. What is the mechanism? What's the thing that we're using to sell? Right? And I thought that the webinar was going to be the thing to sell everybody. Now that I quickly figured out, okay, the webinar's not the thing. Okay, well what is the thing? How am I going to sell people this product? I'm like, well they just bought... I'm looking at what the product they just purchased, which is video creation software that helps make doodle videos and things like that, right? So it's like, okay, this is the mechanism that they bought, right? They're buying software that helps them do this, so I need to use that same mechanism to convert them. So, right now I am in the process. Within an hour of me bombing the webinar, I had hired a writer to start on this process. But now we're working on a Video Sales Letter for my OGs. We call them VSLs, for those who are newer. It's called a Video Sales Letter, VSL. And we're going to hand sketch out the VSL. So, someone comes in. They bought software that does VSLs. I'm going to have them hand sketch out a VSL. We're going to have them surveying the VSL to figure out which audience they are, and then the VSL will change on the fly, depending on who they are. So if, "This person is this market or this market or this market or this," who they are, it will speak specifically to that who, and bridge the gap on why they now need ClickFunnels. So that is the second test, and that test may bomb. I may go and spend a month trying to build this thing out, paying to hand do all the videos, all of the thing, and it may completely bomb. But that's the game, right? It's trying and failing, trying and failing. But it comes back to understanding it's the core things, right? Understanding, okay, who is the market? Right? The market to message match. Who is the market? What's the message you need to actually convert that, and keep tweaking that and change that until you figure it out. ClickFunnels, I failed five times. Five launches before we hit it. And I could have easily failed on the first or the second or the third or the fourth or the fifth, but I didn't, luckily. Thank heavens. Woo hoo. Otherwise most of you guys wouldn't even be here. And I kept working until we figured it out. Three weeks before... Or two weeks. Whatever it was. A month ago. A month before the 10X event, I tried my presentation, and I flopped. I tweaked the market to method match, tweaked those things, and then a month later, whatever it was, at 10X, boom. $3.2 million in sales. Right? So, it's our ability to look at the failures, lick our wounds quickly, and then make the adjustments that are the key to winning this game. Okay? Because man, I don't care what level you are. I don't care if you do this for 20 years, like I had. I don't care if you've done that webinar 150 times live, and you know exactly what words to say in order to get people to buy. If it fails, sometimes it does, and you've got to come back and figure out what are the adjustments. My buddy who's a UFC fighter, right? Lost in the match. He's going to come back and look at the adjustments. What are the adjustments he's got to make? I think that's where a lot of people, they fail. It's that they failed, and then they think that they're a failure, as opposed to like, "I failed. Crap. That method didn't work, but I'm stubborn, and I've got pigheadedness. I'm going to keep trying and keep trying and keep trying." And for me with ClickFunnels, six times, we got it. Gave this offer. It may even take six times. Maybe eight, maybe 10, maybe 15, maybe 30. But I have to make it work, right? And the same thing's got to be true for you. Okay? If it hasn't worked yet, all right. That's okay. Let's get back to the drawing board, and you've got to think. Did I mess up on the message? Is the market wrong? What do I got to tweak? And keep doing it until you've figured out the method that's going to work for that audience. So, anyway. I hope that helps. You guys are hearing me talk about it in the midst of the pain, as opposed to later. They always say in vulnerability, like show your scars but not your open wounds, but I've got an open wound. There it is. I just dumped some salt on it to embarrass myself in front of you guys even more, because that's how much I love you guys. But hopefully it gives you some understanding in some of the things you need to be able to lick your wounds and get back up and keep trying, because it's going to happen. It happened to me. It's going to happen to you. It's going to happen to other people. But the ones who win are the ones who are able to sit in the frustration of the moment for a moment. Because as annoying as it is, it feels good to be like, "Duh," and letting that pain just kind of writhe inside of you. You know, it's like someone stabbing you and turning the knife, twisting the knife. It's like I want to feel that pain, so I can be angry enough and frustrated enough to do the work to figure it out. Because if you're like, "Oh, I failed. Whatever. You know, win some, lose some," and keep moving on, you're not going to be successful. I want to sit in that pain for a little bit, so I can be like, "Ah, I'm so angry. I'm so embarrassed. I'm so frustrated." Like all of the things, and twisting that knife, because that's what gets you to be like, "Okay. I've got to change this. I've got to figure something out." Right? And that's what gives you the fuel you need to make the adjustments and to change, right? I mean, losing. I lose a wrestling match, that pain and that frustration, that embarrassment, those things are the things that drive me now to get back in the gym and to figure things out. And as an entrepreneur, the same thing. You bomb a campaign. All right. Let it hurt. Feel it. Okay, now you feel that? That sucks, right? Okay, now let's get back to work and let's fix this thing. And that's kind of the way you guys got to be looking at. That's the way I'm looking at it, right? The annoyance and the pain of me bombing on this thing is the fuel that I need to fix it, and I'm excited now to fix it. Still upset, still frustrated, still have that pain in my gut from failing, but that's okay. Again, that's the thing that's going to drive me through figuring it out. And we're going to figure it out. And when I figure it out I'll share it with you guys, because I have to figure it out. It's just not like, "Oh, that'd be nice." It's like, "No, I'm multiple eight figures in the hole right now in this company. We've got to figure out how to turn it around." And I will. We'll figure it out. But this is my mindset. This is how I'm doing. These are the things I'm looking at. Okay? What was the market? What did I screw up on? Right? What's the message? Where did I screw up there? Okay, what am I selling, and how am I selling it? What are the methodologies? What do I got to tweak? What do I got to change? And those things put together is how I win this game. So just remember, you guys. It's a game. Don't let it stress you out. Don't let it keep you up at nights. But realize it's a game that you're playing. If you want to win, you've got to be able to move, to adjust, and yeah. So, there you go. I appreciate you guys. Thank you for listening. If you enjoyed this episode and learned something, please share it. Let people know. That's the best thing you could do for me, is tell someone. Like, "Dude, go listen to Russell's podcast this week." Or if you hate it, then don't. That's cool, too. I get it. I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea, as they say, which is totally fine by me. So for my people, you'll hear my voice, and hopefully this will help you. So thanks again for listening, and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Even for me who has done literally hundreds and hundreds of webinars, sometimes they don’t work. What are the adjustments we make to make it work better next time?

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---Transcript---

Hey. What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I'm going to tell you about my most recent failure, that happened yesterday. All right, everybody. So usually, on most things you have a chance to hear the highlight reel. Normally I will tell you a story about how like, "Oh, five years ago, six years ago, I did a webinar and it bombed, and now I'm amazing." But rarely do you get to hear me talk about my failures in the midst of the failures, when I'm still licking my wounds and trying to figure it all out. So, that's our mood today. I hope you guys don't mind.

It's actually interesting. A lot of you have heard my story about 10X, where I did $3.2 million in 90 minutes. What a lot of you don't know is like two months prior to that, I had spoken at an event, and I had tweaked my pitch a little bit. I did the pitch in a little small audience, and it completely bombed. And you know, two and a half months later I did it at 10X and killed it. And I told the story about 10X and I killed it because that's the story that's fun to tell, but I didn't tell the story about how two months earlier, I did a webinar to a group of people and completely bombed. Or not a webinar. Like a live event.

That's the thing about this game. There's always the ebbs and the flows, the ups and the downs. I've been reading a new book by Tim... Tim something. Dang it. I should know this. Tim Grover. Tim Glover. Something. Anyway, it's called Winning. He wrote one called Relentless, which was good, but Winning is way better. Talking about winning in there. He's like, "Winning is unforgiving. Winning doesn't care about you. Winning, there's ups and the downs, and it's just... " Anyway, so today, or after yesterday I'm like I feel like winning is beating me up a little bit. But it's okay, because it's how you learn.

And so, but I'm just like everybody else. Like yesterday... And I did a webinar yesterday, or a podcast yesterday, so if you listen to the last podcast, you'll hear me talk a little about this. But I was excited. We bought a new company. We spent multiple eight figures on the new company, so it wasn't small, and we were doing a webinar to the customer list to sell ClickFunnels. Because the whole purpose of buying this company was to use it as a front end to hopefully people in ClickFunnels, right? And so, I'm all excited because we're going to turn these people into ClickFunnels members. It's going to be amazing.

Anyway, so I do this webinar. And first off, I'm like, "Dude. Well, I'm on fire. Things are feeling good." And then I look over at the comments, because at a couple parts I played little videos. So the videos, I looked at the comments, and oh my gosh. These people, my new customers that I just spent multiple eight figures on, are not happy. They are pissed. They don't like the webinar. They don't like the beat. They think I talk too fast. They think that this is like an MLM pitch. They think all of the things. And I start reading these things by a whole bunch of people, and John on my team runs in. He's like, "The comments are going south." I'm like, "Yeah. I don't know what to do." I'm doing a webinar. The whole bunch of people, I've got to keep going.

And so I get back on. I do the whole webinar. And afterwards, you know. What I was expecting to be a high six figure day, maybe seven figure day, ended up being a five figure. A low five figure day. I was like, "Oh, man. That was not good." Because I've got to pay back multiple eight figures. I needed this to convert better than it did. So at first I was just like, the initial was just like anger, and then depression. These are all in the moment, right? And then it's just like I want to be depressed. I want to go hide. I just want to quit. But then I'm like, "I can't quit. I need to pay back the loan that we took out for this company. I've got to figure this out." Right?

So after being kind of bummed for a little bit, then it was like, "Okay. I've got to figure this out." So after about an hour of me moping and wanting just to quit and run and hide in a hole and everything... Because it's weird. I don't know about you guys, but there's so many emotions. I'm not sure if you saw the 10X documentary. If not, I think it's 10xdocumentary.com. We did a whole documentary on this. But I spoke at the first 10X. We had $3.2 million in sales. The next 10X was in a stadium. It was three times as big. 35,000 people. Everyone thought I was going to make a billion dollars, and I bombed at it. We have a whole documentary documenting the bomb.

But the thing for me is it's hard for a couple reasons. Number one is like I always want people on my team to feel the energy of what we're doing. Right? Because the more excited they are, they're more excited about their jobs and what we're doing. And so, leading this webinar, we had 7,500 people register, and we're talking to them and getting them excited. And the day of the webinar I message them, "It's webinar day. It's going to be so much fun." Like we're pumped and excited, and the webinar is happening. And then when it doesn't happen, partially it's like, "Oh, I feel like I let all of them down. Right?" Because the 10X thing, if you watch the documentary, I felt the same way. I felt like I let all these people down. We flew all these people in, and everyone was excited to see this thing, and it didn't happen. And so, like ugh. Partially it's me licking my wounds, because I felt like I let everybody down.

The second half for me is just like embarrassing. Right? I'm a performer. I'm an athlete. I'm an entrepreneur. I step up, I perform. And when I step up and don't perform, it's embarrassing. Right? One of my friends, he's a UFC fighter. He fought a big fight. He's in the top four or five. This is just like a month ago. Two or three weeks ago, actually. And he went out there and he lost in the first round. He got tapped out. And he went to Instagram instantly afterwards and posted. He's like, "I'm embarrassed." That's how I feel. It's like it's embarrassing. Just embarrassing. Even my wife. I get home, and Colette's like, "How'd it go?" And I'm like, "Uh, I just want to crawl in a hole and hide."

So, I'm telling you these things for a couple reasons. Number one, I want you to know that I go through it as well. Because I'm sure you guys go through this too, right? Where you're expecting this, and then this comes in and you're frustrated or depressed or angry. All of the emotions come in, right? So I wanted to share with you, hopefully to help you just understand that even me, at this level in the game for me, I still go through that. I'm going through it right now, like in the middle of it. In the middle of being embarrassed and being frustrated. Like I didn't even want to go to the office today. I just want to sit at home and watch movies and eat ice cream. That sounds good, actually. Maybe I will do that. Just kidding. Well, I'm not completely ruling it out yet, but anyway.

But then the second half is where the lesson is. Because after licking my wounds and being depressed and being embarrassed, and all the emotions that come with that, then I was like, "Well, I've got a job to do." Right? And wrestling is the same way. I lose a match, be frustrated, embarrassed, angry, all the things, and then it's like, "Well, I've got to come back and win this tournament." Or, you know. Placed third in this tournament. "I've got to come back and compete in the next tournament. I've got to come back and like... " So now it's like what are the adjustments I make? I'm like, "Okay. Well, the webinar didn't work, so I'm not going to go set out 500 replay emails, because it didn't work, and so it's not worth the effort. Right? So we're calling an audible. We're shifting that."

Number two, it's like, "Okay. We misunderstood our audience." Right? The audience who I thought they were were definitely not who they were, so who is the audience? I've got to figure this out. Like Danny Kennedy 101, message to market match. My message did not match the market, right? So I've got to figure this out. In fact, when we lost ClickFunnels the first five times, it was an interesting thing. Same thing. The first five launches of ClickFunnels failed, failed, failed, failed, failed. And number six is when it hit, because I'd figured out the message to market match. What is the message that this market needs to buy the product? So I realized I had a message to market mismatch.

So the first question is, who is the actual market? So we started digging through the data, and like who are they. I assumed they were this. They're not. So, who are they? And I figured that out. Okay, now what is the purpose? Why are they buying this product? Why did they come into this room? Why in this ecosystem? What's the reasoning they had? Okay, now we know that. Now the mechanism. I just talked about getting from zero to a million bucks. First off is like you've got to figure out who is it you're selling, then you start figuring out what is it you're actually selling, and then how you're selling it. The what and the how, right?

And so, I know the what's ClickFunnels. It's like it has to be that. That's the whole purpose, right? So I know who now. The who, I misunderstood the who. Number two is like what? Well, I'm still selling the same what. So, the last one is how. What is the mechanism? What's the thing that we're using to sell? Right? And I thought that the webinar was going to be the thing to sell everybody. Now that I quickly figured out, okay, the webinar's not the thing. Okay, well what is the thing? How am I going to sell people this product? I'm like, well they just bought... I'm looking at what the product they just purchased, which is video creation software that helps make doodle videos and things like that, right? So it's like, okay, this is the mechanism that they bought, right? They're buying software that helps them do this, so I need to use that same mechanism to convert them.

So, right now I am in the process. Within an hour of me bombing the webinar, I had hired a writer to start on this process. But now we're working on a Video Sales Letter for my OGs. We call them VSLs, for those who are newer. It's called a Video Sales Letter, VSL. And we're going to hand sketch out the VSL. So, someone comes in. They bought software that does VSLs. I'm going to have them hand sketch out a VSL. We're going to have them surveying the VSL to figure out which audience they are, and then the VSL will change on the fly, depending on who they are. So if, "This person is this market or this market or this market or this," who they are, it will speak specifically to that who, and bridge the gap on why they now need ClickFunnels.

So that is the second test, and that test may bomb. I may go and spend a month trying to build this thing out, paying to hand do all the videos, all of the thing, and it may completely bomb. But that's the game, right? It's trying and failing, trying and failing. But it comes back to understanding it's the core things, right? Understanding, okay, who is the market? Right? The market to message match. Who is the market? What's the message you need to actually convert that, and keep tweaking that and change that until you figure it out. ClickFunnels, I failed five times. Five launches before we hit it. And I could have easily failed on the first or the second or the third or the fourth or the fifth, but I didn't, luckily. Thank heavens. Woo hoo. Otherwise most of you guys wouldn't even be here. And I kept working until we figured it out.

Three weeks before... Or two weeks. Whatever it was. A month ago. A month before the 10X event, I tried my presentation, and I flopped. I tweaked the market to method match, tweaked those things, and then a month later, whatever it was, at 10X, boom. $3.2 million in sales. Right? So, it's our ability to look at the failures, lick our wounds quickly, and then make the adjustments that are the key to winning this game. Okay? Because man, I don't care what level you are. I don't care if you do this for 20 years, like I had. I don't care if you've done that webinar 150 times live, and you know exactly what words to say in order to get people to buy. If it fails, sometimes it does, and you've got to come back and figure out what are the adjustments.

My buddy who's a UFC fighter, right? Lost in the match. He's going to come back and look at the adjustments. What are the adjustments he's got to make? I think that's where a lot of people, they fail. It's that they failed, and then they think that they're a failure, as opposed to like, "I failed. Crap. That method didn't work, but I'm stubborn, and I've got pigheadedness. I'm going to keep trying and keep trying and keep trying." And for me with ClickFunnels, six times, we got it. Gave this offer. It may even take six times. Maybe eight, maybe 10, maybe 15, maybe 30. But I have to make it work, right? And the same thing's got to be true for you. Okay? If it hasn't worked yet, all right. That's okay. Let's get back to the drawing board, and you've got to think. Did I mess up on the message? Is the market wrong? What do I got to tweak? And keep doing it until you've figured out the method that's going to work for that audience.

So, anyway. I hope that helps. You guys are hearing me talk about it in the midst of the pain, as opposed to later. They always say in vulnerability, like show your scars but not your open wounds, but I've got an open wound. There it is. I just dumped some salt on it to embarrass myself in front of you guys even more, because that's how much I love you guys. But hopefully it gives you some understanding in some of the things you need to be able to lick your wounds and get back up and keep trying, because it's going to happen. It happened to me. It's going to happen to you. It's going to happen to other people. But the ones who win are the ones who are able to sit in the frustration of the moment for a moment.

Because as annoying as it is, it feels good to be like, "Duh," and letting that pain just kind of writhe inside of you. You know, it's like someone stabbing you and turning the knife, twisting the knife. It's like I want to feel that pain, so I can be angry enough and frustrated enough to do the work to figure it out. Because if you're like, "Oh, I failed. Whatever. You know, win some, lose some," and keep moving on, you're not going to be successful. I want to sit in that pain for a little bit, so I can be like, "Ah, I'm so angry. I'm so embarrassed. I'm so frustrated." Like all of the things, and twisting that knife, because that's what gets you to be like, "Okay. I've got to change this. I've got to figure something out." Right? And that's what gives you the fuel you need to make the adjustments and to change, right?

I mean, losing. I lose a wrestling match, that pain and that frustration, that embarrassment, those things are the things that drive me now to get back in the gym and to figure things out. And as an entrepreneur, the same thing. You bomb a campaign. All right. Let it hurt. Feel it. Okay, now you feel that? That sucks, right? Okay, now let's get back to work and let's fix this thing. And that's kind of the way you guys got to be looking at. That's the way I'm looking at it, right? The annoyance and the pain of me bombing on this thing is the fuel that I need to fix it, and I'm excited now to fix it. Still upset, still frustrated, still have that pain in my gut from failing, but that's okay.

Again, that's the thing that's going to drive me through figuring it out. And we're going to figure it out. And when I figure it out I'll share it with you guys, because I have to figure it out. It's just not like, "Oh, that'd be nice." It's like, "No, I'm multiple eight figures in the hole right now in this company. We've got to figure out how to turn it around." And I will. We'll figure it out. But this is my mindset. This is how I'm doing. These are the things I'm looking at. Okay? What was the market? What did I screw up on? Right? What's the message? Where did I screw up there? Okay, what am I selling, and how am I selling it? What are the methodologies? What do I got to tweak? What do I got to change? And those things put together is how I win this game.

So just remember, you guys. It's a game. Don't let it stress you out. Don't let it keep you up at nights. But realize it's a game that you're playing. If you want to win, you've got to be able to move, to adjust, and yeah. So, there you go. I appreciate you guys. Thank you for listening. If you enjoyed this episode and learned something, please share it. Let people know. That's the best thing you could do for me, is tell someone. Like, "Dude, go listen to Russell's podcast this week." Or if you hate it, then don't. That's cool, too. I get it. I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea, as they say, which is totally fine by me. So for my people, you'll hear my voice, and hopefully this will help you.

So thanks again for listening, and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 1003 no Advanced Funnel Stacking https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/advanced-funnel-stacking Understanding funnel stacking is the key to survival in 2021 and beyond. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Good morning, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today is webinar day. I'm excited. Hopefully it's webinar day for you too, because webinars day, as long as you don't mess it up, it's usually payday. So, got some cool stuff to talk to you about. I'll be right back after the intro. Okay. So, heading to the office today, today is webinar day. That's a special webinar day, and I'm excited. I had a lesson that I want you to learn from this. So, how do I phrase this best? So, I just know when we first launched ClickFunnels, the way we did it was, I did a webinar, every single... Well, I told people I'd do a webinar a week for a year. But I was doing like three to five webinars a week, sometimes two or three a day for a year. And that's how we blew up ClickFunnels initially. That gave us initial momentum to get things into outer space. And then, over time we've got funnels and we do funnel stacking. Someone buys a book and they're pushing a webinar, and then from there, we take them through a whole sequence to get people to ascend and move up. And a couple of years ago I did a funnel hacking lab, I gave a presentation called, "Funnel Stacking," and talked about the importance of it and why it's like, have just a funnel, is not... Some people's business is like one funnel, that's their whole business. I'm like in the future, you got to become better at funnel stacking, which is like taking from funnel one to funnel two, to funnel three and moving them up your value ladder. And back then it was like, because this is how you make more money, but it wasn't like a necessity. And you probably heard me say before, one of my favorite Dan Kennedy quotes, he said, "Whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins." So, that's why funnels are so essential. When I got started back in the day, you guys heard of my story, right? I sold a potato gun DVD, and that's all I sold, and I was able to make money on that. But then Google shifted and got more expensive. And so we had to build out funnels to be able to still be profitable. And honestly, for the most part, I think most business owners over the last five or six years can have a funnel and make money and be profitable because just the funnel metrics. But something's happened over the last couple months and you may have heard of this. Our friends over at Google and our friends over at Apple and our friends at Facebook all started hating each other and fighting and battling. And because of these wars, all of our tracking and all sorts of stuff shifted, it changed. And I'm not sure if you've noticed it, we've noticed it, but the cost per acquisition or cost to acquire customers has gone up dramatically in most of the businesses and most of the funnels we have because of these new updates. And it's super annoying. But guess what? For those of you guys who are listening to me who are funnel hackers, who understand this stuff we've been talking about, is a slight annoyance that'll actually yield you more money at the end of the day because you understand these principles. Okay? So, what's going to happen is, first off, everybody who just had a funnel and that was their business, it's going to be harder for them to make money in that funnel. They're going to get closer and closer to break even, or losing money in their funnel. And a lot of people, a lot of your competition, a lot of people around you are going to be out of business. So there's number one. There's the bad news, a lot of people are going out of business. The good news is, most of your competition is going to get out of business, which means eventually at cost is probably going to drop, your ability to serve people is going to be easier. And so, those who stick through this are going to win, and it's going to be better for you in the longterm. So, that's the positive. This is the pattern that I've seen year after year, decade after decade now. This is what happens. And so, I warned you in the beginning of Traffic Secrets, I said, "There's a storm coming." We're in the eye of the storm right now, it's happening. And so, ad costs are going up, most businesses who are not sophisticated, who don't understand funnel hacking, and these principles are going to be gone. But for you guys, it's like, now's the time to start preparing, and so, what that means is, no longer is just your funnel breaking even, like going to be the thing that builds you the right business. That's step number one. Now you have to get into funnel stacking. Some of you guys, it's not the first funnel is going to be the second funnel that breaks you even. Okay? Did you hear that? It's not the first, it's the second funnel that breaks you even. Or some might be the first, the second and the third breaks you even, after that, you're profitable. The biggest companies, they could go the deepest. Now, for us who aren't VC backed, like for example, HubSpot... I think it's HubSpot. We were looking at their metrics and they go like a year or two years in the hole. So, they'll spend $2,000 to get a trial customer and they don't make any money on that person for two years, but they can do that because they've got all these VCs backing them. People like me and you, who are bootstrapping, we don't have unlimited budgets. So, we still have to break even quickly or we can't keep scaling. So the goal always initially was, break even in your first funnel. And then your second funnel is all profit. But now it's going to be going deeper because of just these new changes in how things are playing out. And so, it's important for you to do funnel stacking where it's like, hey, this may be my book funnel. And from there, I push my webinar funnel and from there it's my high ticket funnel and we're taking them through the sequence. And maybe it's like in the middle of the webinar funnels where you break even, or maybe even at the end of the webinar funnel, you're at break even or something, but you got to start figuring those metrics out and start figuring that process out. And so, that's something to think about. One thing people ask me is, "How do you track these things?" And Alex Becker actually has this really good tool now, called Hyros, H-Y-R-O-S, that we're using for our tracking. And it's probably the best thing out there right now. It's still not flawless, no one's flawless. Someday. Someday someone's going to build a flawless system. But it's been super helpful for us to be able to see the tracking from funnel to funnel and kind of see what's happening with people. But anyway, I want you guys to understand that this funnel stacking is a key. So for example, that's why I'm so excited about today's webinar day, because recently we acquired a company and I'm going to give more details, probably Funnel Hacking Live I'll first start talking about it. But we acquired a company that has a whole bunch of front end funnels. And we bought the funnels because they're so profitable. The average cart value is like, I don't know, 130, $140. So, he spent a lot of money to acquire a customer, which is why each of the funnels gets three to 500 new buyers a day, which is awesome. And my goal long-term is to get all those people into ClickFunnels. That's the whole business model. We bought this company because we're buying all their front end funnels so we can push people into ClickFunnels in the backend. Now, in the middle of those acquisitions, when these iOS, Facebook, Apple updates started happening and the cost to acquire a customer went up and all of a sudden these funnels were a 25% profit margin went down to 0% profit margin. And at first, everyone's freaked out like, "Oh, we should cancel the deal. We shouldn't do it." I'm like, "No, you don't understand, this is why we have to do the deal. This is the key." Yes, it sucks that the margin is now gone from these funnels, but the same thing, is like, we're still at break even or maybe a little bit in the hole, but we're acquiring all these customers and then we can put them into our second funnel and that's where it becomes profitable. And so, the question is, what is the second funnel? What's that look like? How is it going to work? And so that's what I'm testing today. So, what I'm doing today is, I'm doing a webinar to the entire buyer list, entire customer list of this company we bought. I think we have seven or almost 8,000 people registered. So it's going to be a big webinar day today and hopefully I don't bomb it. And it's a big payday, but who knows I could bomb. So we do a webinar, and if the webinar goes well, I take that webinar presentation and then we plug it into the back end of every one of these funnels. So, somebody buys the product, they go through the funnel hit the thank you page, thank you page will plug in the actual webinar, gets them on the webinar. And now, the first funnel stack has been completed, and it gets somebody from buying the software, getting thank you page, watch the webinar, buying ClickFunnels. And again, that becomes the first funnel stack. And so, that's the key. That's the thing I want you guys understanding is that, I think a lot of people are like, "Oh, you're going to make a ton of money off the webinar." I'm like, "Not enough money to pay back what we bought this company for." I'm only doing the webinar to be able to create the second piece in this funnel, the funnel stack, thing that's going to plug into the back of all these funnels. So now all these customers coming in every single day, we can transition them from funnel one to funnel two, which gives us profit, but then also plugs people into ClickFunnels, which is our continuity. And that's the beginning of the funnel stack. And then there's things from there, we'll take them on, but that's the key, the principle concept. Does that make sense you guys? Hope it does, because that's the key. I want you guys to understand the funnel stacking is the future. Just like we went from single products to funnel, was the last two decades. The next decade is moving from a funnel to a funnel stack. And so, that's the key. If you want more info, I think I have a book I wrote back in the day called, "Funnel Stacking." And I think I have it as an ebook now. I might mess up my domain. I think if you to funnelstacking secrets.com, there's a free ebook there that shows you my funnel stack from book to webinar to high ticket. And it shows you the email sequences, the numbers, the breakdown, and kind of a cool thing that you can use if you're trying to think through your funnel stack. But anyway, just want you guys getting that in your mindset, and we'll talk more about it, especially Funnel Hacking Live and other places, but the big key right now is, as it was products to funnels, now we're going from funnels to funnel stacking. And those who can spend the most money to acquire customer will win, and those who can't are going to lose. And so, if you want to win this game, it's time to start learning these skills and become more advanced in your marketing. So hope that helps. Thank you guys for listening. That said, it's webinar day, wish me luck. And hopefully it's a webinar day for you wherever you are listening to this. If not, schedule a webinar. It gets people on it because webinar day is payday. It's the best day of the week. Thanks guys. And I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Advanced Funnel Stacking full 446 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Understanding funnel stacking is the key to survival in 2021 and beyond. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Good morning, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the... Understanding funnel stacking is the key to survival in 2021 and beyond. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Good morning, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today is webinar day. I'm excited. Hopefully it's webinar day for you too, because webinars day, as long as you don't mess it up, it's usually payday. So, got some cool stuff to talk to you about. I'll be right back after the intro. Okay. So, heading to the office today, today is webinar day. That's a special webinar day, and I'm excited. I had a lesson that I want you to learn from this. So, how do I phrase this best? So, I just know when we first launched ClickFunnels, the way we did it was, I did a webinar, every single... Well, I told people I'd do a webinar a week for a year. But I was doing like three to five webinars a week, sometimes two or three a day for a year. And that's how we blew up ClickFunnels initially. That gave us initial momentum to get things into outer space. And then, over time we've got funnels and we do funnel stacking. Someone buys a book and they're pushing a webinar, and then from there, we take them through a whole sequence to get people to ascend and move up. And a couple of years ago I did a funnel hacking lab, I gave a presentation called, "Funnel Stacking," and talked about the importance of it and why it's like, have just a funnel, is not... Some people's business is like one funnel, that's their whole business. I'm like in the future, you got to become better at funnel stacking, which is like taking from funnel one to funnel two, to funnel three and moving them up your value ladder. And back then it was like, because this is how you make more money, but it wasn't like a necessity. And you probably heard me say before, one of my favorite Dan Kennedy quotes, he said, "Whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins." So, that's why funnels are so essential. When I got started back in the day, you guys heard of my story, right? I sold a potato gun DVD, and that's all I sold, and I was able to make money on that. But then Google shifted and got more expensive. And so we had to build out funnels to be able to still be profitable. And honestly, for the most part, I think most business owners over the last five or six years can have a funnel and make money and be profitable because just the funnel metrics. But something's happened over the last couple months and you may have heard of this. Our friends over at Google and our friends over at Apple and our friends at Facebook all started hating each other and fighting and battling. And because of these wars, all of our tracking and all sorts of stuff shifted, it changed. And I'm not sure if you've noticed it, we've noticed it, but the cost per acquisition or cost to acquire customers has gone up dramatically in most of the businesses and most of the funnels we have because of these new updates. And it's super annoying. But guess what? For those of you guys who are listening to me who are funnel hackers, who understand this stuff we've been talking about, is a slight annoyance that'll actually yield you more money at the end of the day because you understand these principles. Okay? So, what's going to happen is, first off, everybody who just had a funnel and that was their business, it's going to be harder for them to make money in that funnel. They're going to get closer and closer to break even, or losing money in their funnel. And a lot of people, a lot of your competition, a lot of people around you are going to be out of business. So there's number one. There's the bad news, a lot of people are going out of business. The good news is, most of your competition is going to get out of business, which means eventually at cost is probably going to drop, your ability to serve people is going to be easier. And so, those who stick through this are going to win, and it's going to be better for you in the longterm. So, that's the positive. This is the pattern that I've seen year after year, decade after decade now. This is what happens. And so, I warned you in the beginning of Traffic Secrets, I said, "There's a storm coming." We're in the eye of the storm right now, it's happening. And so, ad costs are going up, most businesses who are not sophisticated, who don't understand funnel hacking, and these principles are going to be gone. But for you guys, it's like, now's the time to start preparing, and so, what that means is, no longer is just your funnel breaking even, like going to be the thing that builds you the right business. That's step number one. Now you have to get into funnel stacking. Some of you guys, it's not the first funnel is going to be the second funnel that breaks you even. Okay? Did you hear that? It's not the first, it's the second funnel that breaks you even. Or some might be the first, the second and the third breaks you even, after that, you're profitable. The biggest companies, they could go the deepest. Now, for us who aren't VC backed, like for example, HubSpot... I think it's HubSpot. We were looking at their metrics and they go like a year or two years in the hole. So, they'll spend $2,000 to get a trial customer and they don't make any money on that person for two years, but they can do that because they've got all these VCs backing them. People like me and you, who are bootstrapping, we don't have unlimited budgets. So, we still have to break even quickly or we can't keep scaling. So the goal always initially was, break even in your first funnel. And then your second funnel is all profit. But now it's going to be going deeper because of just these new changes in how things are playing out. And so, it's important for you to do funnel stacking where it's like, hey, this may be my book funnel. And from there, I push my webinar funnel and from there it's my high ticket funnel and we're taking them through the sequence. And maybe it's like in the middle of the webinar funnels where you break even, or maybe even at the end of the webinar funnel, you're at break even or something, but you got to start figuring those metrics out and start figuring that process out. And so, that's something to think about. One thing people ask me is, "How do you track these things?" And Alex Becker actually has this really good tool now, called Hyros, H-Y-R-O-S, that we're using for our tracking. And it's probably the best thing out there right now. It's still not flawless, no one's flawless. Someday. Someday someone's going to build a flawless system. But it's been super helpful for us to be able to see the tracking from funnel to funnel and kind of see what's happening with people. But anyway, I want you guys to understand that this funnel stacking is a key. So for example, that's why I'm so excited about today's webinar day, because recently we acquired a company and I'm going to give more details, probably Funnel Hacking Live I'll first start talking about it. But we acquired a company that has a whole bunch of front end funnels. And we bought the funnels because they're so profitable. The average cart value is like, I don't know, 130, $140. So, he spent a lot of money to acquire a customer, which is why each of the funnels gets three to 500 new buyers a day, which is awesome. And my goal long-term is to get all those people into ClickFunnels. That's the whole business model. We bought this company because we're buying all their front end funnels so we can push people into ClickFunnels in the backend. Now, in the middle of those acquisitions, when these iOS, Facebook, Apple updates started happening and the cost to acquire a customer went up and all of a sudden these funnels were a 25% profit margin went down to 0% profit margin. And at first, everyone's freaked out like, "Oh, we should cancel the deal. We shouldn't do it." I'm like, "No, you don't understand, this is why we have to do the deal. This is the key." Yes, it sucks that the margin is now gone from these funnels, but the same thing, is like, we're still at break even or maybe a little bit in the hole, but we're acquiring all these customers and then we can put them into our second funnel and that's where it becomes profitable. And so, the question is, what is the second funnel? What's that look like? How is it going to work? And so that's what I'm testing today. So, what I'm doing today is, I'm doing a webinar to the entire buyer list, entire customer list of this company we bought. I think we have seven or almost 8,000 people registered. So it's going to be a big webinar day today and hopefully I don't bomb it. And it's a big payday, but who knows I could bomb. So we do a webinar, and if the webinar goes well, I take that webinar presentation and then we plug it into the back end of every one of these funnels. So, somebody buys the product, they go through the funnel hit the thank you page, thank you page will plug in the actual webinar, gets them on the webinar. And now, the first funnel stack has been completed, and it gets somebody from buying the software, getting thank you page, watch the webinar, buying ClickFunnels. And again, that becomes the first funnel stack. And so, that's the key. That's the thing I want you guys understanding is that, I think a lot of people are like, "Oh, you're going to make a ton of money off the webinar." I'm like, "Not enough money to pay back what we bought this company for." I'm only doing the webinar to be able to create the second piece in this funnel, the funnel stack, thing that's going to plug into the back of all these funnels. So now all these customers coming in every single day, we can transition them from funnel one to funnel two, which gives us profit, but then also plugs people into ClickFunnels, which is our continuity. And that's the beginning of the funnel stack. And then there's things from there, we'll take them on, but that's the key, the principle concept. Does that make sense you guys? Hope it does, because that's the key. I want you guys to understand the funnel stacking is the future. Just like we went from single products to funnel, was the last two decades. The next decade is moving from a funnel to a funnel stack. And so, that's the key. If you want more info, I think I have a book I wrote back in the day called, "Funnel Stacking." And I think I have it as an ebook now. I might mess up my domain. I think if you to funnelstacking secrets.com, there's a free ebook there that shows you my funnel stack from book to webinar to high ticket. And it shows you the email sequences, the numbers, the breakdown, and kind of a cool thing that you can use if you're trying to think through your funnel stack. But anyway, just want you guys getting that in your mindset, and we'll talk more about it, especially Funnel Hacking Live and other places, but the big key right now is, as it was products to funnels, now we're going from funnels to funnel stacking. And those who can spend the most money to acquire customer will win, and those who can't are going to lose. And so, if you want to win this game, it's time to start learning these skills and become more advanced in your marketing. So hope that helps. Thank you guys for listening. That said, it's webinar day, wish me luck. And hopefully it's a webinar day for you wherever you are listening to this. If not, schedule a webinar. It gets people on it because webinar day is payday. It's the best day of the week. Thanks guys. And I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. 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---Transcript---

Good morning, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today is webinar day. I'm excited. Hopefully it's webinar day for you too, because webinars day, as long as you don't mess it up, it's usually payday. So, got some cool stuff to talk to you about. I'll be right back after the intro.

Okay. So, heading to the office today, today is webinar day. That's a special webinar day, and I'm excited. I had a lesson that I want you to learn from this. So, how do I phrase this best? So, I just know when we first launched ClickFunnels, the way we did it was, I did a webinar, every single... Well, I told people I'd do a webinar a week for a year. But I was doing like three to five webinars a week, sometimes two or three a day for a year. And that's how we blew up ClickFunnels initially. That gave us initial momentum to get things into outer space. And then, over time we've got funnels and we do funnel stacking. Someone buys a book and they're pushing a webinar, and then from there, we take them through a whole sequence to get people to ascend and move up.

And a couple of years ago I did a funnel hacking lab, I gave a presentation called, "Funnel Stacking," and talked about the importance of it and why it's like, have just a funnel, is not... Some people's business is like one funnel, that's their whole business. I'm like in the future, you got to become better at funnel stacking, which is like taking from funnel one to funnel two, to funnel three and moving them up your value ladder. And back then it was like, because this is how you make more money, but it wasn't like a necessity. And you probably heard me say before, one of my favorite Dan Kennedy quotes, he said, "Whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins." So, that's why funnels are so essential.

When I got started back in the day, you guys heard of my story, right? I sold a potato gun DVD, and that's all I sold, and I was able to make money on that. But then Google shifted and got more expensive. And so we had to build out funnels to be able to still be profitable. And honestly, for the most part, I think most business owners over the last five or six years can have a funnel and make money and be profitable because just the funnel metrics. But something's happened over the last couple months and you may have heard of this. Our friends over at Google and our friends over at Apple and our friends at Facebook all started hating each other and fighting and battling.

And because of these wars, all of our tracking and all sorts of stuff shifted, it changed. And I'm not sure if you've noticed it, we've noticed it, but the cost per acquisition or cost to acquire customers has gone up dramatically in most of the businesses and most of the funnels we have because of these new updates. And it's super annoying. But guess what? For those of you guys who are listening to me who are funnel hackers, who understand this stuff we've been talking about, is a slight annoyance that'll actually yield you more money at the end of the day because you understand these principles. Okay?

So, what's going to happen is, first off, everybody who just had a funnel and that was their business, it's going to be harder for them to make money in that funnel. They're going to get closer and closer to break even, or losing money in their funnel. And a lot of people, a lot of your competition, a lot of people around you are going to be out of business. So there's number one. There's the bad news, a lot of people are going out of business. The good news is, most of your competition is going to get out of business, which means eventually at cost is probably going to drop, your ability to serve people is going to be easier. And so, those who stick through this are going to win, and it's going to be better for you in the longterm.

So, that's the positive. This is the pattern that I've seen year after year, decade after decade now. This is what happens. And so, I warned you in the beginning of Traffic Secrets, I said, "There's a storm coming." We're in the eye of the storm right now, it's happening. And so, ad costs are going up, most businesses who are not sophisticated, who don't understand funnel hacking, and these principles are going to be gone. But for you guys, it's like, now's the time to start preparing, and so, what that means is, no longer is just your funnel breaking even, like going to be the thing that builds you the right business. That's step number one. Now you have to get into funnel stacking. Some of you guys, it's not the first funnel is going to be the second funnel that breaks you even. Okay? Did you hear that?

It's not the first, it's the second funnel that breaks you even. Or some might be the first, the second and the third breaks you even, after that, you're profitable. The biggest companies, they could go the deepest. Now, for us who aren't VC backed, like for example, HubSpot... I think it's HubSpot. We were looking at their metrics and they go like a year or two years in the hole. So, they'll spend $2,000 to get a trial customer and they don't make any money on that person for two years, but they can do that because they've got all these VCs backing them. People like me and you, who are bootstrapping, we don't have unlimited budgets. So, we still have to break even quickly or we can't keep scaling. So the goal always initially was, break even in your first funnel. And then your second funnel is all profit.

But now it's going to be going deeper because of just these new changes in how things are playing out. And so, it's important for you to do funnel stacking where it's like, hey, this may be my book funnel. And from there, I push my webinar funnel and from there it's my high ticket funnel and we're taking them through the sequence. And maybe it's like in the middle of the webinar funnels where you break even, or maybe even at the end of the webinar funnel, you're at break even or something, but you got to start figuring those metrics out and start figuring that process out. And so, that's something to think about.

One thing people ask me is, "How do you track these things?" And Alex Becker actually has this really good tool now, called Hyros, H-Y-R-O-S, that we're using for our tracking. And it's probably the best thing out there right now. It's still not flawless, no one's flawless. Someday. Someday someone's going to build a flawless system. But it's been super helpful for us to be able to see the tracking from funnel to funnel and kind of see what's happening with people. But anyway, I want you guys to understand that this funnel stacking is a key. So for example, that's why I'm so excited about today's webinar day, because recently we acquired a company and I'm going to give more details, probably Funnel Hacking Live I'll first start talking about it.

But we acquired a company that has a whole bunch of front end funnels. And we bought the funnels because they're so profitable. The average cart value is like, I don't know, 130, $140. So, he spent a lot of money to acquire a customer, which is why each of the funnels gets three to 500 new buyers a day, which is awesome. And my goal long-term is to get all those people into ClickFunnels. That's the whole business model. We bought this company because we're buying all their front end funnels so we can push people into ClickFunnels in the backend. Now, in the middle of those acquisitions, when these iOS, Facebook, Apple updates started happening and the cost to acquire a customer went up and all of a sudden these funnels were a 25% profit margin went down to 0% profit margin.

And at first, everyone's freaked out like, "Oh, we should cancel the deal. We shouldn't do it." I'm like, "No, you don't understand, this is why we have to do the deal. This is the key." Yes, it sucks that the margin is now gone from these funnels, but the same thing, is like, we're still at break even or maybe a little bit in the hole, but we're acquiring all these customers and then we can put them into our second funnel and that's where it becomes profitable. And so, the question is, what is the second funnel? What's that look like? How is it going to work? And so that's what I'm testing today. So, what I'm doing today is, I'm doing a webinar to the entire buyer list, entire customer list of this company we bought. I think we have seven or almost 8,000 people registered. So it's going to be a big webinar day today and hopefully I don't bomb it. And it's a big payday, but who knows I could bomb.

So we do a webinar, and if the webinar goes well, I take that webinar presentation and then we plug it into the back end of every one of these funnels. So, somebody buys the product, they go through the funnel hit the thank you page, thank you page will plug in the actual webinar, gets them on the webinar. And now, the first funnel stack has been completed, and it gets somebody from buying the software, getting thank you page, watch the webinar, buying ClickFunnels. And again, that becomes the first funnel stack. And so, that's the key. That's the thing I want you guys understanding is that, I think a lot of people are like, "Oh, you're going to make a ton of money off the webinar." I'm like, "Not enough money to pay back what we bought this company for."

I'm only doing the webinar to be able to create the second piece in this funnel, the funnel stack, thing that's going to plug into the back of all these funnels. So now all these customers coming in every single day, we can transition them from funnel one to funnel two, which gives us profit, but then also plugs people into ClickFunnels, which is our continuity. And that's the beginning of the funnel stack. And then there's things from there, we'll take them on, but that's the key, the principle concept. Does that make sense you guys? Hope it does, because that's the key. I want you guys to understand the funnel stacking is the future. Just like we went from single products to funnel, was the last two decades. The next decade is moving from a funnel to a funnel stack. And so, that's the key.

If you want more info, I think I have a book I wrote back in the day called, "Funnel Stacking." And I think I have it as an ebook now. I might mess up my domain. I think if you to funnelstacking secrets.com, there's a free ebook there that shows you my funnel stack from book to webinar to high ticket. And it shows you the email sequences, the numbers, the breakdown, and kind of a cool thing that you can use if you're trying to think through your funnel stack. But anyway, just want you guys getting that in your mindset, and we'll talk more about it, especially Funnel Hacking Live and other places, but the big key right now is, as it was products to funnels, now we're going from funnels to funnel stacking.

And those who can spend the most money to acquire customer will win, and those who can't are going to lose. And so, if you want to win this game, it's time to start learning these skills and become more advanced in your marketing. So hope that helps. Thank you guys for listening. That said, it's webinar day, wish me luck. And hopefully it's a webinar day for you wherever you are listening to this. If not, schedule a webinar. It gets people on it because webinar day is payday. It's the best day of the week. Thanks guys. And I'll talk to you soon.

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]]> 687 no How to Turn Your Knowledge Into Software https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-turn-your-knowledge-into-software Here is a trick to increase your stick rate, increase your perceived value, give you the ability to charge more, all while making your customers stick longer. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. For today's episode, I want to quote myself. "If you are good at something, you should turn it into software." All right, everybody, hope you guys are doing awesome. I am heading home from the office today. And there's actually a really cool mastermind group that I'm part of, that meets once a year. And they have not met in almost two years now, because of the whole COVID thing. And they're meeting right now, and I'm not able to be there. And it's breaking my heart. But I got a message from my friend, Alison Prince, who is there. And she said, "You've been being quoted three or four times." I said, "What are people saying about me? My ears are burning. Tell me, tell me." And she said that someone quoted, and she read the quote, which was basically something I said last year. The event which is Whatever you're good at, just turn that into software. And I want to give you context, because this group is some of the best personal development gurus in the world. Literally, the who's who. You would know probably 95% their names. And most of them have courses. They got products. They got podcasts. They got YouTube channels. They got all these things where their teaching their stuff. And all of them have bigger reach, bigger following, bigger list, bigger everything than I do. But the reality is, I think, for the most part, I make more money than almost all of them. Not all of them. There's a couple that I'm gaining on. But as a whole, pretty substantially, I make more money than most of them. And when they were talking about last time, I was like, "You guys are all brilliant. You have these ideas. You have these things, but you're selling it as a course. And a course is good. But, man, if you could turn that course into software, it would change everything." And like, "Oh, that doesn't work for me." And I was like, "Yes." You have to understand their art is personal development, right? My art is building funnels. And so for years, I did courses, teaching how to build funnels, and how to lay them out, and how to write copy, and how to do these things. But it wasn't through until we turned our knowledge into software that my businesses went from good to insane, right? And you think about Funnel Scripts, right? We taught people how to write copy for decades. And nobody wants to buy copywriting, so we turned it into software, and boom, Funnel Scripts is a Two Comma Club ex-award winner. Talked about building funnels, and how to do it, and the strategy. But it wasn't until we turned into software that it blew up. I've watched Garrett White recently. Garrett White, if you know, he did live events where men came out to Wake Up Warrior. And he would take them down the beach, and he'd beat them up, and he would make them tough, and turn them into men. And it's amazing, right? And he did that for five or six years doing events every single month. And then, now he stopped those. He shut them down. And now he's turning what he does into software, where you log in to software, you do the thing, you read the thing, you read the message. You listen to the app, you check the thing off, and you're doing the things. And he's transitioning it from information to information blended into software. And so for you guys, I want you think about that. In fact, let me step back. One of my very first mentors, a lot of you guys know this, is Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer were my first two big mentors. And in their company, Magnetic Marketing, they have a newsletter where they sell access to the monthly newsletter, right? And one of the things that Bill used to always talk to me about is he's like, "You have to have in any kind of continuity, you got to build in pain of disconnect." Meaning, it gets harder for somebody to leave, right? And he said, "The biggest problem in their business was there was no pain of disconnect." People were buying the newsletter, which was great, and it's great recurring income stream. But if something happened, right? Their credit card failed, some bills happen, whatever. First thing to go is info, right? This has been helpful, but I don't have to have this membership. I don't have to have this newsletter. I don't have to have these things for whatever reason. So they're able to cancel them really quickly and very easily, because there's no pain of disconnect. Whereas, ClickFunnels right now, when someone gets an account to ClickFunnels, and set up their site, they set up their funnel, and things are happening in their thing. They have their email list, and they've got things happening. If things shift, and things get hard, and things happen, the last thing they're going to cut is ClickFunnels because the pain of disconnect is so high. They stop paying their bill to ClickFunnels, their business falls apart, right? I remember in the continuity business, when we were doing membership sites and stuff, people would go three, or four, or five months, stop paying. We've been hounding him, trying to get him to pay things like that. Whereas, ClickFunnels is opposite, right? Someone stops paying, sites go down. And within five minutes, they're calling us like, "Oh, here's my credit card. Let me update it." Right? It just shifts the thing, because the pain of disconnect is so high. And so, the problem traditionally with information products, or coaching, or things like that is that there's no pain of disconnect, right? People have it, they can cancel it. And it's simple to do because there's no pain of disconnect. But as soon as you take your course, right? And you turn it into software. Now someone's logging in, they're going in, they're filling out things or taking notes. They've got things they're building up. Now all these things are there. They're stored in the spot. And if they were to cancel, they lose all this information, right? And so, how do you turn your knowledge, the things you're good at into software? I just want you guys thinking about that. We've done it a couple of times this year. One of them recently, and the site's not live yet. It maybe live by the time you guys hear this. But if you go to braindump.com, we have a process that we use to brain dump, and get the ideas out of our head. And we taught it to people. I showed them how to use it in Trello. I showed people how to do it in different ways, to do in Google Docs. And this is how we brain dump our ideas to write a book, or create a course, or do different things like that. And it was good. Some people paid for us, most people wouldn't, because it was like, "How would I pay you to show me how to brain dump my ideas?" And so, we took this idea, this skill set, this knowledge we have, we turned into software. And the software now allows you to brain dump stuff. And what's cool about it is, number one, it makes the process so much simpler, so much easier. I can just give it to people. They can do it very fast, very easily, which is exciting. That's number one. My number two, is now there's a pain of disconnect. If you spend a week, or a month, or year brain dumping your ideas into our software, you don't want to cancel, because if you do, you lose all the stuff you've brain dumped, right? You lose all your notes, your ideas, all that stuff disappears with you. And so, the pain of disconnect is very, very high. Whereas, if you bought a training course, let's say, you're paying 30 bucks a month to go through my course in how to brain dump your ideas. After month number one, I get the gist, right? I already listened to it or I don't need it any more, whatever. It is easy to cancel. Whereas, the software, now you're part of it, you're probably going to use it forever, right? And so, just want you thinking through those things, right? How do you take what you know, and turn into software? When you do that, you're going to increase your valuations. Your company will be worth more. You increase your stick rates. Your stick will be longer. You increase happiness. People feel the increased perceived value, software feels more expensive than courses, and about a million other things. So anyway, I thought it was cool because they quoted me today during the mastermind meeting. And I wanted to share the quote with you guys, since I'm not able to hang out with all my friends who are super cool. And literally, these people that are changing the world, and I can't be there with them, which is too bad. But at least, I'm doing something cool here as well. So anyway, I don't want to complain about not being there. I stood back for a very important and very cool reason, so no stress. But hopefully, that helps you guys. With that said, I'm home, I'm going to play with my kids, which is the number one reason why I was not able to go. I'm going to go have some fun with them. So appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for listening. And go figure out how to turn your ideas into actual software. Thanks so much everybody. And we'll talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 01 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0000 How to Turn Your Knowledge Into Software full 445 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is a trick to increase your stick rate, increase your perceived value, give you the ability to charge more, all while making your customers stick longer. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ... Here is a trick to increase your stick rate, increase your perceived value, give you the ability to charge more, all while making your customers stick longer. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. For today's episode, I want to quote myself. "If you are good at something, you should turn it into software." All right, everybody, hope you guys are doing awesome. I am heading home from the office today. And there's actually a really cool mastermind group that I'm part of, that meets once a year. And they have not met in almost two years now, because of the whole COVID thing. And they're meeting right now, and I'm not able to be there. And it's breaking my heart. But I got a message from my friend, Alison Prince, who is there. And she said, "You've been being quoted three or four times." I said, "What are people saying about me? My ears are burning. Tell me, tell me." And she said that someone quoted, and she read the quote, which was basically something I said last year. The event which is Whatever you're good at, just turn that into software. And I want to give you context, because this group is some of the best personal development gurus in the world. Literally, the who's who. You would know probably 95% their names. And most of them have courses. They got products. They got podcasts. They got YouTube channels. They got all these things where their teaching their stuff. And all of them have bigger reach, bigger following, bigger list, bigger everything than I do. But the reality is, I think, for the most part, I make more money than almost all of them. Not all of them. There's a couple that I'm gaining on. But as a whole, pretty substantially, I make more money than most of them. And when they were talking about last time, I was like, "You guys are all brilliant. You have these ideas. You have these things, but you're selling it as a course. And a course is good. But, man, if you could turn that course into software, it would change everything." And like, "Oh, that doesn't work for me." And I was like, "Yes." You have to understand their art is personal development, right? My art is building funnels. And so for years, I did courses, teaching how to build funnels, and how to lay them out, and how to write copy, and how to do these things. But it wasn't through until we turned our knowledge into software that my businesses went from good to insane, right? And you think about Funnel Scripts, right? We taught people how to write copy for decades. And nobody wants to buy copywriting, so we turned it into software, and boom, Funnel Scripts is a Two Comma Club ex-award winner. Talked about building funnels, and how to do it, and the strategy. But it wasn't until we turned into software that it blew up. I've watched Garrett White recently. Garrett White, if you know, he did live events where men came out to Wake Up Warrior. And he would take them down the beach, and he'd beat them up, and he would make them tough, and turn them into men. And it's amazing, right? And he did that for five or six years doing events every single month. And then, now he stopped those. He shut them down. And now he's turning what he does into software, where you log in to software, you do the thing, you read the thing, you read the message. You listen to the app, you check the thing off, and you're doing the things. And he's transitioning it from information to information blended into software. And so for you guys, I want you think about that. In fact, let me step back. One of my very first mentors, a lot of you guys know this, is Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer were my first two big mentors. And in their company, Magnetic Marketing, they have a newsletter where they sell access to the monthly newsletter, right? And one of the things that Bill used to always talk to me about is he's like, "You have to have in any kind of continuity, you got to build in pain of disconnect." Meaning, it gets harder for somebody to leave, right? And he said, "The biggest problem in their business was there was no pain of disconnect." People were buying the newsletter, which was great, and it's great recurring income stream. But if something happened, right? Their credit card failed, some bills happen, whatever. First thing to go is info, right? This has been helpful, but I don't have to have this membership. I don't have to have this newsletter. I don't have to have these things for whatever reason. So they're able to cancel them really quickly and very easily, because there's no pain of disconnect. Whereas, ClickFunnels right now, when someone gets an account to ClickFunnels, and set up their site, they set up their funnel, and things are happening in their thing. They have their email list, and they've got things happening. If things shift, and things get hard, and things happen, the last thing they're going to cut is ClickFunnels because the pain of disconnect is so high. They stop paying their bill to ClickFunnels, their business falls apart, right? I remember in the continuity business, when we were doing membership sites and stuff, people would go three, or four, or five months, stop paying. We've been hounding him, trying to get him to pay things like that. Whereas, ClickFunnels is opposite, right? Someone stops paying, sites go down. And within five minutes, they're calling us like, "Oh, here's my credit card. Let me update it." Right? It just shifts the thing, because the pain of disconnect is so high. And so, the problem traditionally with information products, or coaching, or things like that is that there's no pain of disconnect, right? People have it, they can cancel it. And it's simple to do because there's no pain of disconnect. But as soon as you take your course, right? And you turn it into software. Now someone's logging in, they're going in, they're filling out things or taking notes. They've got things they're building up. Now all these things are there. They're stored in the spot. And if they were to cancel, they lose all this information, right? And so, how do you turn your knowledge, the things you're good at into software? I just want you guys thinking about that. We've done it a couple of times this year. One of them recently, and the site's not live yet. It maybe live by the time you guys hear this. But if you go to braindump.com, we have a process that we use to brain dump, and get the ideas out of our head. And we taught it to people. I showed them how to use it in Trello. I showed people how to do it in different ways, to do in Google Docs. And this is how we brain dump our ideas to write a book, or create a course, or do different things like that. And it was good. Some people paid for us, most people wouldn't, because it was like, "How would I pay you to show me how to brain dump my ideas?" And so, we took this idea, this skill set, this knowledge we have, we turned into software. And the software now allows you to brain dump stuff. And what's cool about it is, number one, it makes the process so much simpler, so much easier. I can just give it to people. They can do it very fast, very easily, which is exciting. That's number one. My number two, is now there's a pain of disconnect. If you spend a week, or a month, or year brain dumping your ideas into our software, you don't want to cancel, because if you do, you lose all the stuff you've brain dumped, right? You lose all your notes, your ideas, all that stuff disappears with you. And so, the pain of disconnect is very, very high. Whereas, if you bought a training course, let's say, you're paying 30 bucks a month to go through my course in how to brain dump your ideas. After month number one, I get the gist, right? I already listened to it or I don't need it any more, whatever. It is easy to cancel. Whereas, the software, now you're part of it, you're probably going to use it forever, right? And so, just want you thinking through those things, right? How do you take what you know, and turn into software? When you do that, you're going to increase your valuations. Your company will be worth more. You increase your stick rates. Your stick will be longer. You increase happiness. People feel the increased perceived value, software feels more expensive than courses, and about a million other things. So anyway, I thought it was cool because they quoted me today during the mastermind meeting. And I wanted to share the quote with you guys, since I'm not able to hang out with all my friends who are super cool. And literally, these people that are changing the world, and I can't be there with them, which is too bad. But at least, I'm doing something cool here as well. So anyway, I don't want to complain about not being there. I stood back for a very important and very cool reason, so no stress. But hopefully, that helps you guys. With that said, I'm home, I'm going to play with my kids, which is the number one reason why I was not able to go. I'm going to go have some fun with them. So appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for listening. And go figure out how to turn your ideas into actual software. Thanks so much everybody. And we'll talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is a trick to increase your stick rate, increase your perceived value, give you the ability to charge more, all while making your customers stick longer.

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---Transcript---

Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. For today's episode, I want to quote myself. "If you are good at something, you should turn it into software." All right, everybody, hope you guys are doing awesome. I am heading home from the office today. And there's actually a really cool mastermind group that I'm part of, that meets once a year. And they have not met in almost two years now, because of the whole COVID thing. And they're meeting right now, and I'm not able to be there. And it's breaking my heart. But I got a message from my friend, Alison Prince, who is there. And she said, "You've been being quoted three or four times." I said, "What are people saying about me? My ears are burning. Tell me, tell me." And she said that someone quoted, and she read the quote, which was basically something I said last year. The event which is Whatever you're good at, just turn that into software.

And I want to give you context, because this group is some of the best personal development gurus in the world. Literally, the who's who. You would know probably 95% their names. And most of them have courses. They got products. They got podcasts. They got YouTube channels. They got all these things where their teaching their stuff. And all of them have bigger reach, bigger following, bigger list, bigger everything than I do. But the reality is, I think, for the most part, I make more money than almost all of them. Not all of them. There's a couple that I'm gaining on. But as a whole, pretty substantially, I make more money than most of them. And when they were talking about last time, I was like, "You guys are all brilliant. You have these ideas. You have these things, but you're selling it as a course. And a course is good. But, man, if you could turn that course into software, it would change everything."

And like, "Oh, that doesn't work for me." And I was like, "Yes." You have to understand their art is personal development, right? My art is building funnels. And so for years, I did courses, teaching how to build funnels, and how to lay them out, and how to write copy, and how to do these things. But it wasn't through until we turned our knowledge into software that my businesses went from good to insane, right? And you think about Funnel Scripts, right? We taught people how to write copy for decades. And nobody wants to buy copywriting, so we turned it into software, and boom, Funnel Scripts is a Two Comma Club ex-award winner. Talked about building funnels, and how to do it, and the strategy. But it wasn't until we turned into software that it blew up.

I've watched Garrett White recently. Garrett White, if you know, he did live events where men came out to Wake Up Warrior. And he would take them down the beach, and he'd beat them up, and he would make them tough, and turn them into men. And it's amazing, right? And he did that for five or six years doing events every single month. And then, now he stopped those. He shut them down. And now he's turning what he does into software, where you log in to software, you do the thing, you read the thing, you read the message. You listen to the app, you check the thing off, and you're doing the things. And he's transitioning it from information to information blended into software. And so for you guys, I want you think about that.

In fact, let me step back. One of my very first mentors, a lot of you guys know this, is Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer were my first two big mentors. And in their company, Magnetic Marketing, they have a newsletter where they sell access to the monthly newsletter, right? And one of the things that Bill used to always talk to me about is he's like, "You have to have in any kind of continuity, you got to build in pain of disconnect." Meaning, it gets harder for somebody to leave, right? And he said, "The biggest problem in their business was there was no pain of disconnect." People were buying the newsletter, which was great, and it's great recurring income stream. But if something happened, right? Their credit card failed, some bills happen, whatever.

First thing to go is info, right? This has been helpful, but I don't have to have this membership. I don't have to have this newsletter. I don't have to have these things for whatever reason. So they're able to cancel them really quickly and very easily, because there's no pain of disconnect. Whereas, ClickFunnels right now, when someone gets an account to ClickFunnels, and set up their site, they set up their funnel, and things are happening in their thing. They have their email list, and they've got things happening. If things shift, and things get hard, and things happen, the last thing they're going to cut is ClickFunnels because the pain of disconnect is so high. They stop paying their bill to ClickFunnels, their business falls apart, right?

I remember in the continuity business, when we were doing membership sites and stuff, people would go three, or four, or five months, stop paying. We've been hounding him, trying to get him to pay things like that. Whereas, ClickFunnels is opposite, right? Someone stops paying, sites go down. And within five minutes, they're calling us like, "Oh, here's my credit card. Let me update it." Right? It just shifts the thing, because the pain of disconnect is so high. And so, the problem traditionally with information products, or coaching, or things like that is that there's no pain of disconnect, right? People have it, they can cancel it. And it's simple to do because there's no pain of disconnect. But as soon as you take your course, right? And you turn it into software. Now someone's logging in, they're going in, they're filling out things or taking notes. They've got things they're building up. Now all these things are there. They're stored in the spot. And if they were to cancel, they lose all this information, right?

And so, how do you turn your knowledge, the things you're good at into software? I just want you guys thinking about that. We've done it a couple of times this year. One of them recently, and the site's not live yet. It maybe live by the time you guys hear this. But if you go to braindump.com, we have a process that we use to brain dump, and get the ideas out of our head. And we taught it to people. I showed them how to use it in Trello. I showed people how to do it in different ways, to do in Google Docs. And this is how we brain dump our ideas to write a book, or create a course, or do different things like that. And it was good. Some people paid for us, most people wouldn't, because it was like, "How would I pay you to show me how to brain dump my ideas?"

And so, we took this idea, this skill set, this knowledge we have, we turned into software. And the software now allows you to brain dump stuff. And what's cool about it is, number one, it makes the process so much simpler, so much easier. I can just give it to people. They can do it very fast, very easily, which is exciting. That's number one. My number two, is now there's a pain of disconnect. If you spend a week, or a month, or year brain dumping your ideas into our software, you don't want to cancel, because if you do, you lose all the stuff you've brain dumped, right? You lose all your notes, your ideas, all that stuff disappears with you. And so, the pain of disconnect is very, very high.

Whereas, if you bought a training course, let's say, you're paying 30 bucks a month to go through my course in how to brain dump your ideas. After month number one, I get the gist, right? I already listened to it or I don't need it any more, whatever. It is easy to cancel. Whereas, the software, now you're part of it, you're probably going to use it forever, right? And so, just want you thinking through those things, right? How do you take what you know, and turn into software? When you do that, you're going to increase your valuations. Your company will be worth more. You increase your stick rates. Your stick will be longer. You increase happiness. People feel the increased perceived value, software feels more expensive than courses, and about a million other things.

So anyway, I thought it was cool because they quoted me today during the mastermind meeting. And I wanted to share the quote with you guys, since I'm not able to hang out with all my friends who are super cool. And literally, these people that are changing the world, and I can't be there with them, which is too bad. But at least, I'm doing something cool here as well. So anyway, I don't want to complain about not being there. I stood back for a very important and very cool reason, so no stress. But hopefully, that helps you guys. With that said, I'm home, I'm going to play with my kids, which is the number one reason why I was not able to go. I'm going to go have some fun with them. So appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for listening. And go figure out how to turn your ideas into actual software. Thanks so much everybody. And we'll talk soon.

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]]> 570 no How to Create Momentum and Then Capitalize on It https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-create-momentum-and-then-capitalize-on-it Weird Gucci shoes pic got me 120K views. What I learned and what I would do differently next time. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secret Podcast. Today, I want to talk about the concept of capitalizing on momentum. All right, so I had a really unique experience. Some of you guys know that by default I wear a t-shirt and jeans almost every day, but then for Funnel Hacking Live I used to try to dress up. And so I'd buy my own clothes and I didn't know how to buy clothes and so I would just... Anyway, looking back now, it's embarrassing looking at what I thought was nice. But I feel like the third or fourth Funnel Hacking Lives, one of my friends, Bart Miller, was like, "Hey, can I dress you because you're embarrassing yourself and everybody else?" And I was like, "Okay." And so he started dressing me, and it's been a fun experience. I'm not comfortable with most things he tries to put me in like suit jackets and all sorts of fancy things. But I've got my spot where I'm like, "Okay, here's Russell dressed up. I'm wearing nice jeans. I'm wearing a shirt. I'm not tucking it in though." The shirt may have cuff links because those are cool. I'm probably even in the cool watch. That's cool. And probably some cool shoes. But that's about the extent of where I'm going to go. And so once a year we go shopping and we buy a bunch of cool stuff. I wear it at Funnel Hacking Live and then I wear it every time I'm on stage for the rest of the year. And then usually, by the time it's been a year, those clothes have been worn out and then I go buy new clothes. And so that's how I run my fashion. The Russell Brunson fashion happens that way. So, anyway, it's funny. But I had a really cool experience this time. Again, every time we're shopping, I'm way out of my comfort zone. I don't know what half these things are. I didn't know what Gucci was. I didn't know, you know what I mean? I don't know anything about brands or fashion or anything. I remember the first time we walked into a Gucci Store five years ago, I was like, "No, I'll never wear something like this ever in infinity years." The shoes have bugs on them and fur and weird stuff, and I was like, "Yeah." But anyway, last time, two years ago I went into Gucci and they're these cool looking tennis shoes that were ClickFunnels colors. I was like, "Sweet. We'll get those. I mean, I can wear tennis shoes that look like ClickFunnels." And they were awesome. And so I've broadened my horizon to some of the weird brands that are out there. Anyway, so this year, we went back into the Gucci store and, again, they had a couple of cool not weird shoes that were in between. I'm like, "Okay, these are cool." And there are these one pair, they were sneakers. And they were weird colors like blue and yellow. And so they had me trying them on. I got one of my size, but one on each foot. I put the yellow or the blue on the right foot and the other one on the left foot. And I'm sitting looking at them, I'm like, "I have no idea if these shoes are cool or lame or whatever." And instinctively, I grabbed my phone and I took a picture just to send it to my wife Collette who was shopping somewhere else. I was like, "Are these cool or are these lame. I don't even know." So I sent it to her, and then at the same time, I was like, "I'm going to post this on Instagram." So I posted it on Instagram, and on Instagram you can do like a voting thing. So I put it an Instagram and I was like, "Yellow or blue? Just vote whatever it is." So I post that, and then I go back, put the shoes away, and we go continue shopping. Anyway, so there's the backstory, in case you guys were thinking Russell's spending infinity dollars at Gucci every single day. That's not the reality. The reality is, it's still weird to me and I just happened to be trying these shoes on, posted a picture, and had people vote. So, that's the story. Then, two hours later, I open Instagram and I open the thing where it shows you the score of people voting. And at the time, 70,000 had voted or had seen the thing. And I was like, "What?" I've never had 70,000 people view one of my stories. That was in two hours. And then I looked down and it had 10,000 had voted, or whatever it was. And it kept going, kept going, and by the time the 24 hour window had gone and it disappears from my Stories 120,000 people had seen it. I think 35,000 people had voted on it. And it was crazy. So, that happened, and after it happened, and again I still don't exactly how it happened, I have some ideas and things, but for some reason, the Instagram algorithm is like, "This is getting a high percentage of votes. Therefore, it's good. Therefore, we should show it to everybody that Russell knows. Plus, we should probably post it on the search feed and other places like that." Anyway, it blew up. And then what's crazy is, I get this huge momentum surge and then stupid Russell doesn't even think and then my next couple Insta Stories are me eating food or doing stupid things and that was it. And then, again, I'm not even paying attention, and then the next day come back and I look and, again, 120,000 views, 30,000 votes. And I was like, "Man, that is crazy that happened. I still don't know how it happened." And then I looked at my next Story, and my next Story had 60,000 views on it. The next one had 40,000, then 30,000. And the ones that had 60,000, 40,000, 30,000 were me doing stupid things that didn't even matter and I missed the momentum. I should've been like, "Hey, by the way, I'm going to be wearing one of these pair of shoes at Funnel Hacking Live. Swipe up to get your ticket." Or it could have been like, "Hey, if you want to learn how to afford Gucci shoes, go buy my book," or something to capitalize on the momentum, and I didn't I missed it, And I missed the window. Now, this is obviously a dumb, dorky example of a fluke thing where I posted and Insta Story, got a bunch of viewers for whatever reason, I had attention for literally 24 hours, and then it was gone after that. The next day, I tried to post something and my views went back down to, normally, I get, I don't know, 10,000 to 15,000 people to view a Story. So it dropped back to normal and I was like, "Ah, I missed my window." I had momentum, I could have had this amazing opportunity, and I lost out on it. So anyway, that's the context, but the lesson I want to teach you guys is just, there's times in our life where we get momentum, and it could be in sports, it could be in a relationship, it could be in business, you do something and something goes viral or something hits or you speak on stages and the big happens or you launch a podcast and tons of downloads or something, you do something, and it gets momentum. And I think so many times, we get so excited by the momentum that we don't try to capitalize on it. And it's actually capitalizing on the momentum is where you make money or something good happens from it. I know that there's so many times, like when ClickFunnels passed 50,000 members and we hired the Harmon Brothers to do this viral video and launched it and we did this big thing to get momentum. And we even brought in all these big influencers. We did the event and Gary V came and spoke at it. We did a bubble soccer event and got the Guinness Book of World Records thing. We did this big, huge thing, we got a whole bunch of momentum, and then we didn't capitalize on the momentum. Afterwards, we were like, "Oh, we had all these influencers there and we didn't get them to promote it. We didn't do interviews with them. We didn't do these things. We had the momentum and we didn't capitalize on it." And, looking back, oh, we probably lost literally millions of dollars sometimes because we didn't capitalize on the momentum. And so if you look at your business, there's two things when you're trying to drive traffic and create attention. There's two things you're doing. You're going to do things to create momentum, and then you've got to capitalize on that momentum. I look at a lot of influencers who are really good at creating momentum, but then they don't capitalize. Where people are really good at capitalizing on no momentum and they're just buying ads and making money that way, but there's a sweet spot where you can do things to organically create momentum and then capitalize at the same time. And it's that yin-yang of those two things. There's a sweet spot there where you can really have some big success. And so a couple of things I'd recommend from this. Number one is started thinking about, what are things I can do to create momentum? By me knowing that me posting a yellow and blue Gucci shoe and have people vote, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, people like these dorky little quizzes I didn't know about." And if the quiz turns out good, Instagram's going to reward it and I'm going to get 120,000 people to watch it. Now that I know that, guess what I'm doing? Knowing this is the way to get momentum, I'm going to start looking at things differently and how do I do things? Similarly, oh, I said that word right I think, last year, we did a video where I was telling my story and we had hired these actors to act it out and we did it and it got five million views. That created a bunch of momentum and then we didn't capitalize on it. So I'm like, "Okay, how do we do that again? We create Stories." But then, the first thing creates the momentum and the second thing comes back through and it capitalizes on the momentum. How do I structure those things? And so part of is looking at things like, what are the things you've done in the past that have created momentum? Can you do them again? What are things that other people do to create momentum? Can you model those to create the momentum? And then the second half is, as I create the momentum, be prepared now to capitalize on the momentum on the other side. And that's the other side of it. So, anyway, I wanted to share that. Hopefully, it gets the wheels in your head spinning, because I think that as you consciously start paying attention to that like, how can I create the momentum and then how can I capitalize on it? That's when you have success. You don't have success when you randomly just create momentum like I did and then you're not prepared to capitalize on it. I missed a big opportunity. But, man, if you can get those two things where you start looking at like, what are the things I can do to create momentum? What are the different levers, the things, the ideas, the things I can tweak, I can effect that, cause that? And then being prepared on the other side to capitalize on it. So hopefully, that helps you guys as you're thinking about it. Because traffic, I'm going to go buy Facebook ads. That's good. But how can I buy Facebook ads to create momentum? What are the other things I can do to create momentum? What are posts I can make that get people to share and to comment to create momentum? What are these different things? You start thinking differently and it gets really exciting. So, anyway, I hope this helps. I know that when I get excited I talk fast. This is an eight minute podcast and I probably jammed 30 minutes of stuff into it. So if you need to go back and listen on half speed, please do that. But hopefully it gets the wheels spinning of just, what are the things you can do every single day? 120,000 views off of a picture of my shoes, that would have cost me 20 grand in Instagram ads to get that same amount of views, and I didn't capitalize on it because I missed it. And so just thinking through those things and crafting them and testing things out and having fun with it. That's the game we get to play every day, guys. It's so much fun. I hope you're enjoying the game. If not, start looking at it as a game again. This is fun, this is something that should be exciting, all these crazy things. The fact that I posted that picture and got that many views is crazy, but that's part of the game. That's the fun part of the game. So I hope this helps. I hope it gets the wheels in your head spinning. With that said, thanks so much for listening and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0000 How to Create Momentum and Then Capitalize on It full 444 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Weird Gucci shoes pic got me 120K views. What I learned and what I would do differently next time. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson.... Weird Gucci shoes pic got me 120K views. What I learned and what I would do differently next time. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secret Podcast. Today, I want to talk about the concept of capitalizing on momentum. All right, so I had a really unique experience. Some of you guys know that by default I wear a t-shirt and jeans almost every day, but then for Funnel Hacking Live I used to try to dress up. And so I'd buy my own clothes and I didn't know how to buy clothes and so I would just... Anyway, looking back now, it's embarrassing looking at what I thought was nice. But I feel like the third or fourth Funnel Hacking Lives, one of my friends, Bart Miller, was like, "Hey, can I dress you because you're embarrassing yourself and everybody else?" And I was like, "Okay." And so he started dressing me, and it's been a fun experience. I'm not comfortable with most things he tries to put me in like suit jackets and all sorts of fancy things. But I've got my spot where I'm like, "Okay, here's Russell dressed up. I'm wearing nice jeans. I'm wearing a shirt. I'm not tucking it in though." The shirt may have cuff links because those are cool. I'm probably even in the cool watch. That's cool. And probably some cool shoes. But that's about the extent of where I'm going to go. And so once a year we go shopping and we buy a bunch of cool stuff. I wear it at Funnel Hacking Live and then I wear it every time I'm on stage for the rest of the year. And then usually, by the time it's been a year, those clothes have been worn out and then I go buy new clothes. And so that's how I run my fashion. The Russell Brunson fashion happens that way. So, anyway, it's funny. But I had a really cool experience this time. Again, every time we're shopping, I'm way out of my comfort zone. I don't know what half these things are. I didn't know what Gucci was. I didn't know, you know what I mean? I don't know anything about brands or fashion or anything. I remember the first time we walked into a Gucci Store five years ago, I was like, "No, I'll never wear something like this ever in infinity years." The shoes have bugs on them and fur and weird stuff, and I was like, "Yeah." But anyway, last time, two years ago I went into Gucci and they're these cool looking tennis shoes that were ClickFunnels colors. I was like, "Sweet. We'll get those. I mean, I can wear tennis shoes that look like ClickFunnels." And they were awesome. And so I've broadened my horizon to some of the weird brands that are out there. Anyway, so this year, we went back into the Gucci store and, again, they had a couple of cool not weird shoes that were in between. I'm like, "Okay, these are cool." And there are these one pair, they were sneakers. And they were weird colors like blue and yellow. And so they had me trying them on. I got one of my size, but one on each foot. I put the yellow or the blue on the right foot and the other one on the left foot. And I'm sitting looking at them, I'm like, "I have no idea if these shoes are cool or lame or whatever." And instinctively, I grabbed my phone and I took a picture just to send it to my wife Collette who was shopping somewhere else. I was like, "Are these cool or are these lame. I don't even know." So I sent it to her, and then at the same time, I was like, "I'm going to post this on Instagram." So I posted it on Instagram, and on Instagram you can do like a voting thing. So I put it an Instagram and I was like, "Yellow or blue? Just vote whatever it is." So I post that, and then I go back, put the shoes away, and we go continue shopping. Anyway, so there's the backstory, in case you guys were thinking Russell's spending infinity dollars at Gucci every single day. That's not the reality. The reality is, it's still weird to me and I just happened to be trying these shoes on, posted a picture, and had people vote. So, that's the story. Then, two hours later, I open Instagram and I open the thing where it shows you the score of people voting. And at the time, 70,000 had voted or had seen the thing. And I was like, "What?" I've never had 70,000 people view one of my stories. That was in two hours. And then I looked down and it had 10,000 had voted, or whatever it was. And it kept going, kept going, and by the time the 24 hour window had gone and it disappears from my Stories 120,000 people had seen it. I think 35,000 people had voted on it. And it was crazy. So, that happened, and after it happened, and again I still don't exactly how it happened, I have some ideas and things, but for some reason, the Instagram algorithm is like, "This is getting a high percentage of votes. Therefore, it's good. Therefore, we should show it to everybody that Russell knows. Plus, we should probably post it on the search feed and other places like that." Anyway, it blew up. And then what's crazy is, I get this huge momentum surge and then stupid Russell doesn't even think and then my next couple Insta Stories are me eating food or doing stupid things and that was it. And then, again, I'm not even paying attention, and then the next day come back and I look and, again, 120,000 views, 30,000 votes. And I was like, "Man, that is crazy that happened. I still don't know how it happened." And then I looked at my next Story, and my next Story had 60,000 views on it. The next one had 40,000, then 30,000. And the ones that had 60,000, 40,000, 30,000 were me doing stupid things that didn't even matter and I missed the momentum. I should've been like, "Hey, by the way, I'm going to be wearing one of these pair of shoes at Funnel Hacking Live. Swipe up to get your ticket." Or it could have been like, "Hey, if you want to learn how to afford Gucci shoes, go buy my book," or something to capitalize on the momentum, and I didn't I missed it, And I missed the window. Now, this is obviously a dumb, dorky example of a fluke thing where I posted and Insta Story, got a bunch of viewers for whatever reason, I had attention for literally 24 hours, and then it was gone after that. The next day, I tried to post something and my views went back down to, normally, I get, I don't know, 10,000 to 15,000 people to view a Story. So it dropped back to normal and I was like, "Ah, I missed my window." I had momentum, I could have had this amazing opportunity, and I lost out on it. So anyway, that's the context, but the lesson I want to teach you guys is just, there's times in our life where we get momentum, and it could be in sports, it could be in a relationship, it could be in business, you do something and something goes viral or something hits or you speak on stages and the big happens or you launch a podcast and tons of downloads or something, you do something, and it gets momentum. And I think so many times, we get so excited by the momentum that we don't try to capitalize on it. And it's actually capitalizing on the momentum is where you make money or something good happens from it. I know that there's so many times, like when ClickFunnels passed 50,000 members and we hired the Harmon Brothers to do this viral video and launched it and we did this big thing to get momentum. And we even brought in all these big influencers. We did the event and Gary V came and spoke at it. We did a bubble soccer event and got the Guinness Book of World Records thing. We did this big, huge thing, we got a whole bunch of momentum, and then we didn't capitalize on the momentum. Afterwards, we were like, "Oh, we had all these influencers there and we didn't get them to promote it. We didn't do interviews with them. We didn't do these things. We had the momentum and we didn't capitalize on it." And, looking back, oh, we probably lost literally millions of dollars sometimes because we didn't capitalize on the momentum. And so if you look at your business, there's two things when you're trying to drive traffic and create attention. There's two things you're doing. You're going to do things to create momentum, and then you've got to capitalize on that momentum. I look at a lot of influencers who are really good at creating momentum, but then they don't capitalize. Where people are really good at capitalizing on no momentum and they're just buying ads and making money that way, but there's a sweet spot where you can do things to organically create momentum and then capitalize at the same time. And it's that yin-yang of those two things. There's a sweet spot there where you can really have some big success. And so a couple of things I'd recommend from this. Number one is started thinking about, what are things I can do to create momentum? By me knowing that me posting a yellow and blue Gucci shoe and have people vote, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, people like these dorky little quizzes I didn't know about." And if the quiz turns out good, Instagram's going to reward it and I'm going to get 120,000 people to watch it. Now that I know that, guess what I'm doing? Knowing this is the way to get momentum, I'm going to start looking at things differently and how do I do things? Similarly, oh, I said that word right I think, last year, we did a video where I was telling my story and we had hired these actors to act it out and we did it and it got five million views. That created a bunch of momentum and then we didn't capitalize on it. So I'm like, "Okay, how do we do that again? We create Stories." But then, the first thing creates the momentum and the second thing comes back through and it capitalizes on the momentum. How do I structure those things? And so part of is looking at things like, what are the things you've done in the past that have created momentum? Can you do them again? What are things that other people do to create momentum? Can you model those to create the momentum? And then the second half is, as I create the momentum, be prepared now to capitalize on the momentum on the other side. And that's the other side of it. So, anyway, I wanted to share that. Hopefully, it gets the wheels in your head spinning, because I think that as you consciously start paying attention to that like, how can I create the momentum and then how can I capitalize on it? That's when you have success. You don't have success when you randomly just create momentum like I did and then you're not prepared to capitalize on it. I missed a big opportunity. But, man, if you can get those two things where you start looking at like, what are the things I can do to create momentum? What are the different levers, the things, the ideas, the things I can tweak, I can effect that, cause that? And then being prepared on the other side to capitalize on it. So hopefully, that helps you guys as you're thinking about it. Because traffic, I'm going to go buy Facebook ads. That's good. But how can I buy Facebook ads to create momentum? What are the other things I can do to create momentum? What are posts I can make that get people to share and to comment to create momentum? What are these different things? You start thinking differently and it gets really exciting. So, anyway, I hope this helps. I know that when I get excited I talk fast. This is an eight minute podcast and I probably jammed 30 minutes of stuff into it. So if you need to go back and listen on half speed, please do that. But hopefully it gets the wheels spinning of just, what are the things you can do every single day? 120,000 views off of a picture of my shoes, that would have cost me 20 grand in Instagram ads to get that same amount of views, and I didn't capitalize on it because I missed it. And so just thinking through those things and crafting them and testing things out and having fun with it. That's the game we get to play every day, guys. It's so much fun. I hope you're enjoying the game. If not, start looking at it as a game again. This is fun, this is something that should be exciting, all these crazy things. The fact that I posted that picture and got that many views is crazy, but that's part of the game. That's the fun part of the game. So I hope this helps. I hope it gets the wheels in your head spinning. With that said, thanks so much for listening and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. 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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secret Podcast. Today, I want to talk about the concept of capitalizing on momentum. All right, so I had a really unique experience. Some of you guys know that by default I wear a t-shirt and jeans almost every day, but then for Funnel Hacking Live I used to try to dress up. And so I'd buy my own clothes and I didn't know how to buy clothes and so I would just... Anyway, looking back now, it's embarrassing looking at what I thought was nice. But I feel like the third or fourth Funnel Hacking Lives, one of my friends, Bart Miller, was like, "Hey, can I dress you because you're embarrassing yourself and everybody else?" And I was like, "Okay." And so he started dressing me, and it's been a fun experience. I'm not comfortable with most things he tries to put me in like suit jackets and all sorts of fancy things. But I've got my spot where I'm like, "Okay, here's Russell dressed up. I'm wearing nice jeans. I'm wearing a shirt. I'm not tucking it in though."

The shirt may have cuff links because those are cool. I'm probably even in the cool watch. That's cool. And probably some cool shoes. But that's about the extent of where I'm going to go. And so once a year we go shopping and we buy a bunch of cool stuff. I wear it at Funnel Hacking Live and then I wear it every time I'm on stage for the rest of the year. And then usually, by the time it's been a year, those clothes have been worn out and then I go buy new clothes. And so that's how I run my fashion. The Russell Brunson fashion happens that way. So, anyway, it's funny. But I had a really cool experience this time. Again, every time we're shopping, I'm way out of my comfort zone. I don't know what half these things are. I didn't know what Gucci was. I didn't know, you know what I mean? I don't know anything about brands or fashion or anything. I remember the first time we walked into a Gucci Store five years ago, I was like, "No, I'll never wear something like this ever in infinity years."

The shoes have bugs on them and fur and weird stuff, and I was like, "Yeah." But anyway, last time, two years ago I went into Gucci and they're these cool looking tennis shoes that were ClickFunnels colors. I was like, "Sweet. We'll get those. I mean, I can wear tennis shoes that look like ClickFunnels." And they were awesome. And so I've broadened my horizon to some of the weird brands that are out there. Anyway, so this year, we went back into the Gucci store and, again, they had a couple of cool not weird shoes that were in between. I'm like, "Okay, these are cool." And there are these one pair, they were sneakers. And they were weird colors like blue and yellow. And so they had me trying them on. I got one of my size, but one on each foot. I put the yellow or the blue on the right foot and the other one on the left foot.

And I'm sitting looking at them, I'm like, "I have no idea if these shoes are cool or lame or whatever." And instinctively, I grabbed my phone and I took a picture just to send it to my wife Collette who was shopping somewhere else. I was like, "Are these cool or are these lame. I don't even know." So I sent it to her, and then at the same time, I was like, "I'm going to post this on Instagram." So I posted it on Instagram, and on Instagram you can do like a voting thing. So I put it an Instagram and I was like, "Yellow or blue? Just vote whatever it is." So I post that, and then I go back, put the shoes away, and we go continue shopping. Anyway, so there's the backstory, in case you guys were thinking Russell's spending infinity dollars at Gucci every single day. That's not the reality. The reality is, it's still weird to me and I just happened to be trying these shoes on, posted a picture, and had people vote. So, that's the story.

Then, two hours later, I open Instagram and I open the thing where it shows you the score of people voting. And at the time, 70,000 had voted or had seen the thing. And I was like, "What?" I've never had 70,000 people view one of my stories. That was in two hours. And then I looked down and it had 10,000 had voted, or whatever it was. And it kept going, kept going, and by the time the 24 hour window had gone and it disappears from my Stories 120,000 people had seen it. I think 35,000 people had voted on it. And it was crazy. So, that happened, and after it happened, and again I still don't exactly how it happened, I have some ideas and things, but for some reason, the Instagram algorithm is like, "This is getting a high percentage of votes. Therefore, it's good. Therefore, we should show it to everybody that Russell knows. Plus, we should probably post it on the search feed and other places like that." Anyway, it blew up.

And then what's crazy is, I get this huge momentum surge and then stupid Russell doesn't even think and then my next couple Insta Stories are me eating food or doing stupid things and that was it. And then, again, I'm not even paying attention, and then the next day come back and I look and, again, 120,000 views, 30,000 votes. And I was like, "Man, that is crazy that happened. I still don't know how it happened." And then I looked at my next Story, and my next Story had 60,000 views on it. The next one had 40,000, then 30,000. And the ones that had 60,000, 40,000, 30,000 were me doing stupid things that didn't even matter and I missed the momentum. I should've been like, "Hey, by the way, I'm going to be wearing one of these pair of shoes at Funnel Hacking Live. Swipe up to get your ticket." Or it could have been like, "Hey, if you want to learn how to afford Gucci shoes, go buy my book," or something to capitalize on the momentum, and I didn't I missed it, And I missed the window.

Now, this is obviously a dumb, dorky example of a fluke thing where I posted and Insta Story, got a bunch of viewers for whatever reason, I had attention for literally 24 hours, and then it was gone after that. The next day, I tried to post something and my views went back down to, normally, I get, I don't know, 10,000 to 15,000 people to view a Story. So it dropped back to normal and I was like, "Ah, I missed my window." I had momentum, I could have had this amazing opportunity, and I lost out on it. So anyway, that's the context, but the lesson I want to teach you guys is just, there's times in our life where we get momentum, and it could be in sports, it could be in a relationship, it could be in business, you do something and something goes viral or something hits or you speak on stages and the big happens or you launch a podcast and tons of downloads or something, you do something, and it gets momentum.

And I think so many times, we get so excited by the momentum that we don't try to capitalize on it. And it's actually capitalizing on the momentum is where you make money or something good happens from it. I know that there's so many times, like when ClickFunnels passed 50,000 members and we hired the Harmon Brothers to do this viral video and launched it and we did this big thing to get momentum. And we even brought in all these big influencers. We did the event and Gary V came and spoke at it. We did a bubble soccer event and got the Guinness Book of World Records thing. We did this big, huge thing, we got a whole bunch of momentum, and then we didn't capitalize on the momentum. Afterwards, we were like, "Oh, we had all these influencers there and we didn't get them to promote it. We didn't do interviews with them. We didn't do these things. We had the momentum and we didn't capitalize on it."

And, looking back, oh, we probably lost literally millions of dollars sometimes because we didn't capitalize on the momentum. And so if you look at your business, there's two things when you're trying to drive traffic and create attention. There's two things you're doing. You're going to do things to create momentum, and then you've got to capitalize on that momentum. I look at a lot of influencers who are really good at creating momentum, but then they don't capitalize. Where people are really good at capitalizing on no momentum and they're just buying ads and making money that way, but there's a sweet spot where you can do things to organically create momentum and then capitalize at the same time. And it's that yin-yang of those two things. There's a sweet spot there where you can really have some big success.

And so a couple of things I'd recommend from this. Number one is started thinking about, what are things I can do to create momentum? By me knowing that me posting a yellow and blue Gucci shoe and have people vote, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, people like these dorky little quizzes I didn't know about." And if the quiz turns out good, Instagram's going to reward it and I'm going to get 120,000 people to watch it. Now that I know that, guess what I'm doing? Knowing this is the way to get momentum, I'm going to start looking at things differently and how do I do things? Similarly, oh, I said that word right I think, last year, we did a video where I was telling my story and we had hired these actors to act it out and we did it and it got five million views.

That created a bunch of momentum and then we didn't capitalize on it. So I'm like, "Okay, how do we do that again? We create Stories." But then, the first thing creates the momentum and the second thing comes back through and it capitalizes on the momentum. How do I structure those things? And so part of is looking at things like, what are the things you've done in the past that have created momentum? Can you do them again? What are things that other people do to create momentum? Can you model those to create the momentum? And then the second half is, as I create the momentum, be prepared now to capitalize on the momentum on the other side. And that's the other side of it. So, anyway, I wanted to share that. Hopefully, it gets the wheels in your head spinning, because I think that as you consciously start paying attention to that like, how can I create the momentum and then how can I capitalize on it? That's when you have success.

You don't have success when you randomly just create momentum like I did and then you're not prepared to capitalize on it. I missed a big opportunity. But, man, if you can get those two things where you start looking at like, what are the things I can do to create momentum? What are the different levers, the things, the ideas, the things I can tweak, I can effect that, cause that? And then being prepared on the other side to capitalize on it. So hopefully, that helps you guys as you're thinking about it. Because traffic, I'm going to go buy Facebook ads. That's good. But how can I buy Facebook ads to create momentum? What are the other things I can do to create momentum? What are posts I can make that get people to share and to comment to create momentum? What are these different things? You start thinking differently and it gets really exciting. So, anyway, I hope this helps. I know that when I get excited I talk fast. This is an eight minute podcast and I probably jammed 30 minutes of stuff into it.

So if you need to go back and listen on half speed, please do that. But hopefully it gets the wheels spinning of just, what are the things you can do every single day? 120,000 views off of a picture of my shoes, that would have cost me 20 grand in Instagram ads to get that same amount of views, and I didn't capitalize on it because I missed it. And so just thinking through those things and crafting them and testing things out and having fun with it. That's the game we get to play every day, guys. It's so much fun. I hope you're enjoying the game. If not, start looking at it as a game again. This is fun, this is something that should be exciting, all these crazy things. The fact that I posted that picture and got that many views is crazy, but that's part of the game. That's the fun part of the game. So I hope this helps. I hope it gets the wheels in your head spinning. With that said, thanks so much for listening and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 702 no Funnels + ADD = Quick Cash Businesses https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnels-add-quick-cash-businesses Here are some fun things you can do to launch businesses literally overnight. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I got a question for you. Are you currently buying dead businesses? If not, you got to listen to this episode. All right, I'm not going to lie. I'm having so much fun on some side projects, which goes against everything that I preach. If you've been in my inner circle and if you've been to my coaching programs, I always tell people, "Focus on one thing, and you've got to kill the other babies." And so I understand I'm being a total hypocrite by doing this and talking about this, but alas, my ADD-ness needed an outlet, and so this is my outlet. It was either this or go watch a show on Netflix. I'm like, "All right, I'm just going to do this instead." So listen with caution, but hopefully, it gets you as excited. So during COVID, all sorts of chaos happened. At the same time, there were a lot of really good businesses that went out of business because, honestly, the entrepreneurs who were running him don't know how to run funnels. That's literally it. And now that recently all the iOS updates and all the fighting between Apple and Facebook and stuff, the game is getting harder. And guess what? The people who are good at funnels are the ones who are winning. That's it because the people who are really good at funnels can spend more to acquire customer and everybody else. And so, if you haven't mastered the funnel game yet, you have to learn it, or else you're not going to survive. And luckily for my funnel hackers, I've been teaching and training you guys for a long time. And most of you guys are rockstars, and you get it, therefore, you're having success. But for those who aren't, they're going to be out of business soon. And it leads to a really interesting, really cool, really fun opportunity for people like us, where we can take our funnel building skills, look at cool businesses that once we're profitable, that no longer are because the market changed and they weren't able to shift, and you can come in, and you can do some really cool things with it. I want to give you guys a couple of case studies. I'm not going to tell you the details on anyone because none of them were live-live yet, but they're all close to live, and they're exciting. So there was one supplement company that I was really excited by, and I was a customer for a long time, and then they went out of business. And I started buying that supplements products because their sales video was so good. Right? It went out of business. And then the next three or four years, I kept messaging the old owner like, "Why'd you take it down?" He's like, "Ah." They had their reasons. And I was like, I" want to buy it. I want to buy it." And finally, this year, I was able to negotiate to buy the entire company for a fraction of what they spent on just the sales video back in the day. And now we're about two weeks away from relaunching that brand and that company, which is so exciting. We literally just took it, took the formulas, tweaked it a little bit, took the sales video that was good, built out a funnel, and now we've got this new asset that's literally, we just can turn ads on, and it'll print money for the rest of my life until we sell it or something. But it's exciting. Another thing is another supplement I was taking that was one of my favorite supplements, and then during COVID, it stopped coming. And I messaged the owners, and they're like, "Oh, supply chain management issues. We had to shut down." And I was like, "I love this company. I want to bring the brand back. If I help finance it, can we bring it back?" And we figured out a deal. And now I'm an owner of that company, and that's about to launch as well. And then another, there was this really cool T-shirt company that I used to love. It was so exciting. And then the other day, I went to buy a T-shirt from them, and the site was down. I was like, "What?" And so I went, and I found the site, I found the owners, and I was like, "Dude, you guys, why is the site down?" Like, "Oh, we shut it down." And so I made an offer, and I bought it for insanely low price. And we bought the entire T-shirt company, which is exciting. And that's rolling out soon, But there are millions, literally millions of deals like this out there. And somebody asked me, like, "I don't know how to find them. I don't know how to look for them." I would start opening your eyes. There are so many of these deals out there where you can take them, put a funnel on them, and boom, you're back in business. And there's tons. In fact, one of the ways I used to do this back in the day, it's been a while since I did this, but I used to go to ClickBank, and ClickBank has their marketplace. And the marketplace is interesting because they rank things based on what's selling the most. Right? So like page one, you see the number one seller, number two, number three, all the way down to 10. But what I would do is I would go to like page 99. And you go back there, and there's some amazing offers that, one time, were amazing, but for whatever reason, the person stopped driving traffic to it. They may have done a product launch. They did something, and it's just sitting there. And it's basically dead. I can't tell you how many of those old offers I would go to like, "The copy's good. The funnel's good. The product's good." I messaged the owner. I'm like, "Hey, what's happened to this product." They're like, "Oh, our Facebook account got shut down," or, "Hey, I did an initial launch, and then we just don't have any traffic." They don't have enough Facebook ads or a million different reasons why. Right? Or maybe there was an upsell and a down-sell, so Facebook ads didn't work, and so they just need an upsell. If they just applied some funnel techniques, it'd be good. Or, "Hey, we could plug a challenge funnel in front of this thing, and that's the product we sell at the back of it. And the product is great." And I'd find these things way deep, buried In ClickBank's marketplace, and message the people. And then come back to them and be like, "Hey, number one, can I buy it from you?" Which is going to be more expensive because you're going to buy the domain, the brand, all that kind of stuff. Or number two is like, "I don't want to actually buy this from you. Can I license it from you?" And then you may be like, "What's the licensing?" And it's like, "Well, basically, I'm going license to sells it. I'm going to license the product and license all the things." And a lot of times, it's really, really cheap to license at all, and then you can create your own brand out of it. And I've had literally dozens of deals like that, where I spent less than a thousand dollars to license somebody's entire business and product. I got the ebook. I got the course. I got the sales, and I got everything for a thousand bucks, and it's something they probably spent 20 grand launching five years earlier. And it's still good. It just needs to be polished. It needs to be plugged into a funnel. It needs some traffic. It needs an upsell. It needs a down-sell. It needs something, but that's it. And there are so many opportunities and deals like that out there that I think most of us are forgetting or missing. So start looking at what are the businesses out there that are struggling? What businesses have been shut down? What things did you use to buy that you no longer can buy? Could you buy the company? Could you license the product? Could you become a reseller? Could you apply your funnel knowledge to it? I've seen tons of people who got out there, taken really good products that are selling in one way. And they go and license it and then plug it into a funnel, and they own all the online distribution or the funnel distribution. Right? They find authors who are selling books on Amazon and have no funnel. And they come, and they build the funnel for them. And then they give a royalty back to the author, but then they own the thing. Right? There's so many ways to make money in this game. And so anyway, I feel like my ADD dabble a little bit in some of these fun things. And like I said, we got two supplement brands and a T-shirt brand that are all launching from my ADD-ness, which is so much fun. So I guess that's better than watching Netflix. Anyway, so I just want to show it to you guys because maybe it'll get the wheels spinning. Some of you guys who don't have businesses yet, maybe are like, "Well, I get the funnel game. I just don't have a business yet." Well, cool. There's a couple of ways to go start a business from scratch really, really inexpensively, really quickly, and in a way where you don't do all the product development, or the copy, or all these things that maybe you're not as good at. You can find those things that are already finished, that are done, that are out there. I bet you 50 buck. In fact, I know this. If you go to flippa.com, F-L-I-P-P-P-A.com, there's hundreds of websites that are for sale. Also, Shopify has an exchange. I think it's called the Shopify exchange or something. If you go to Google, type in Shopify stores for sale, it'll pull up. It's a marketplace. Tons of you will have Shopify stores that are selling them. And I literally almost bought four or five of them last weekend. I was going through them all. I'm like, "Oh, my gosh." One was like Dollar Shave Club. It was like shaving stuff. It was like really cool shaving stuff. And there's also a beard club with all these beard things. I'm like, "I don't have a beard, but how cool if I bought a beard company and a shaving company, and I owned them both?" And they were super cheap. And basically, these guys created the brand, created the logos, created the products, launched it, didn't know how to actually drive traffic or sales. And all this stuff's done. All the hard work is finished. The suppliers, the manufacturers, the logos, the design, everything is done. They just have a Shopify store, which, as you guys know, is not going to make you nearly as much money as the funnel. I was like, "I'm just going to buy the Shopify store, plug the offers into a funnel, and boom, we're off to the races. And again, these are all skillsets that you guys have been learning here inside of our community. If you've been learning at Funnel Hacking Live, which, if you don't have your tickets yet, we're like 30 days away from that. Go to funnelhackinglive.com. But there's that. Right? There's the books. Right? If you've read the dotcom secrets book, you know how to do funnels. If you go to the one funnel-a-day challenge, if you've been incorporating into our community, you're learning the skillsets. You've just got to grab something and apply it to it. And it's literally the principle is universal. Right? Any product. And there's tons of out there, and you can start plugging it in so that you can go and you can create your own courses, which is an amazing way. You can go and get stuff off of Alibaba or Shopify, or excuse me, like from China. Or you can find people who already did, who already put together the store, who did all the hard work. They just don't know how to sell it. You can grab it, structure in a funnel, and boom, it's off to the races. I literally, my team, I sent them probably 30 of the Shopify stores I wanted to buy. And all of them would have been a cool little business that could be making, I don't know. Who knows? Five, 10 grand a month, just on autopilot by us just literally taking the products, plugging them into a funnel, getting an agency to drive Facebook ads to it. And then it just sends me money every single month. How fun is that? How cool is that? Are you guys getting this? This is what I'm talking about. This is why this game is so much fun. That's why I still can't sleep at night because this funnel game is expansive. It's always growing. It's so much fun. And anyway, I hope you guys are half as excited as I am. My goal is to keep you guys excited because this game is the best game that's ever been played. And you guys have a chance to play it at a level that nobody else in the history of all time has been able to do. Back in the day, people had to buy mailing lists and postage stamps, all sorts of stuff. Where you guys can literally just get a click funnels account, throw some things up, buy some Facebook ads, and you're in the game. That's it. It's so much fun. Anyway, I'm going to go. I just wanted to bring it up to you guys while I was having fun. Thanks so much for listening. Hopefully, it gets the wheels in your head spinning. I recommend go to flippa.com, and look for what's for sale. Go to ClickBank and scroll deep in the marketplace to the forgotten offers, and go find a forgotten often there and see if you can buy it from them, or you can license it from them. Go to Google and type in Shopify stores for sale. And again, I can't remember the name, but it's like a Shopify exchange that has all these Shopify store owners or people who did the whole thing, figured it out, got all the hard work done, and couldn't figure out how to make money with it. Now they're listing it for sale, and you can buy it. So many cool ways, so many fun things you can do. I hope this helps. And that's all I got. Thanks, guys. I appreciate you all for listening. Thanks for being part of our community. Get your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live. Again, it's at funnelhackinglive.com, before we are sold out. And I'm actually spending a lot of time at Funnel Hacking Live, talking about this and these unique opportunities. I call it virtual real estate. We're going to talk about virtual real estate and how to find it, and where it's at, and what you can do with it, and a bunch of other cool things. So that's all I got. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening and hanging out, and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Funnels + ADD = Quick Cash Businesses full 443 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here are some fun things you can do to launch businesses literally overnight. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the... Here are some fun things you can do to launch businesses literally overnight. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I got a question for you. Are you currently buying dead businesses? If not, you got to listen to this episode. All right, I'm not going to lie. I'm having so much fun on some side projects, which goes against everything that I preach. If you've been in my inner circle and if you've been to my coaching programs, I always tell people, "Focus on one thing, and you've got to kill the other babies." And so I understand I'm being a total hypocrite by doing this and talking about this, but alas, my ADD-ness needed an outlet, and so this is my outlet. It was either this or go watch a show on Netflix. I'm like, "All right, I'm just going to do this instead." So listen with caution, but hopefully, it gets you as excited. So during COVID, all sorts of chaos happened. At the same time, there were a lot of really good businesses that went out of business because, honestly, the entrepreneurs who were running him don't know how to run funnels. That's literally it. And now that recently all the iOS updates and all the fighting between Apple and Facebook and stuff, the game is getting harder. And guess what? The people who are good at funnels are the ones who are winning. That's it because the people who are really good at funnels can spend more to acquire customer and everybody else. And so, if you haven't mastered the funnel game yet, you have to learn it, or else you're not going to survive. And luckily for my funnel hackers, I've been teaching and training you guys for a long time. And most of you guys are rockstars, and you get it, therefore, you're having success. But for those who aren't, they're going to be out of business soon. And it leads to a really interesting, really cool, really fun opportunity for people like us, where we can take our funnel building skills, look at cool businesses that once we're profitable, that no longer are because the market changed and they weren't able to shift, and you can come in, and you can do some really cool things with it. I want to give you guys a couple of case studies. I'm not going to tell you the details on anyone because none of them were live-live yet, but they're all close to live, and they're exciting. So there was one supplement company that I was really excited by, and I was a customer for a long time, and then they went out of business. And I started buying that supplements products because their sales video was so good. Right? It went out of business. And then the next three or four years, I kept messaging the old owner like, "Why'd you take it down?" He's like, "Ah." They had their reasons. And I was like, I" want to buy it. I want to buy it." And finally, this year, I was able to negotiate to buy the entire company for a fraction of what they spent on just the sales video back in the day. And now we're about two weeks away from relaunching that brand and that company, which is so exciting. We literally just took it, took the formulas, tweaked it a little bit, took the sales video that was good, built out a funnel, and now we've got this new asset that's literally, we just can turn ads on, and it'll print money for the rest of my life until we sell it or something. But it's exciting. Another thing is another supplement I was taking that was one of my favorite supplements, and then during COVID, it stopped coming. And I messaged the owners, and they're like, "Oh, supply chain management issues. We had to shut down." And I was like, "I love this company. I want to bring the brand back. If I help finance it, can we bring it back?" And we figured out a deal. And now I'm an owner of that company, and that's about to launch as well. And then another, there was this really cool T-shirt company that I used to love. It was so exciting. And then the other day, I went to buy a T-shirt from them, and the site was down. I was like, "What?" And so I went, and I found the site, I found the owners, and I was like, "Dude, you guys, why is the site down?" Like, "Oh, we shut it down." And so I made an offer, and I bought it for insanely low price. And we bought the entire T-shirt company, which is exciting. And that's rolling out soon, But there are millions, literally millions of deals like this out there. And somebody asked me, like, "I don't know how to find them. I don't know how to look for them." I would start opening your eyes. There are so many of these deals out there where you can take them, put a funnel on them, and boom, you're back in business. And there's tons. In fact, one of the ways I used to do this back in the day, it's been a while since I did this, but I used to go to ClickBank, and ClickBank has their marketplace. And the marketplace is interesting because they rank things based on what's selling the most. Right? So like page one, you see the number one seller, number two, number three, all the way down to 10. But what I would do is I would go to like page 99. And you go back there, and there's some amazing offers that, one time, were amazing, but for whatever reason, the person stopped driving traffic to it. They may have done a product launch. They did something, and it's just sitting there. And it's basically dead. I can't tell you how many of those old offers I would go to like, "The copy's good. The funnel's good. The product's good." I messaged the owner. I'm like, "Hey, what's happened to this product." They're like, "Oh, our Facebook account got shut down," or, "Hey, I did an initial launch, and then we just don't have any traffic." They don't have enough Facebook ads or a million different reasons why. Right? Or maybe there was an upsell and a down-sell, so Facebook ads didn't work, and so they just need an upsell. If they just applied some funnel techniques, it'd be good. Or, "Hey, we could plug a challenge funnel in front of this thing, and that's the product we sell at the back of it. And the product is great." And I'd find these things way deep, buried In ClickBank's marketplace, and message the people. And then come back to them and be like, "Hey, number one, can I buy it from you?" Which is going to be more expensive because you're going to buy the domain, the brand, all that kind of stuff. Or number two is like, "I don't want to actually buy this from you. Can I license it from you?" And then you may be like, "What's the licensing?" And it's like, "Well, basically, I'm going license to sells it. I'm going to license the product and license all the things." And a lot of times, it's really, really cheap to license at all, and then you can create your own brand out of it. And I've had literally dozens of deals like that, where I spent less than a thousand dollars to license somebody's entire business and product. I got the ebook. I got the course. I got the sales, and I got everything for a thousand bucks, and it's something they probably spent 20 grand launching five years earlier. And it's still good. It just needs to be polished. It needs to be plugged into a funnel. It needs some traffic. It needs an upsell. It needs a down-sell. It needs something, but that's it. And there are so many opportunities and deals like that out there that I think most of us are forgetting or missing. So start looking at what are the businesses out there that are struggling? What businesses have been shut down? What things did you use to buy that you no longer can buy? Could you buy the company? Could you license the product? Could you become a reseller? Could you apply your funnel knowledge to it? I've seen tons of people who got out there, taken really good products that are selling in one way. And they go and license it and then plug it into a funnel, and they own all the online distribution or the funnel distribution. Right? They find authors who are selling books on Amazon and have no funnel. And they come, and they build the funnel for them. And then they give a royalty back to the author, but then they own the thing. Right? There's so many ways to make money in this game. And so anyway, I feel like my ADD dabble a little bit in some of these fun things. And like I said, we got two supplement brands and a T-shirt brand that are all launching from my ADD-ness, which is so much fun. So I guess that's better than watching Netflix. Anyway, so I just want to show it to you guys because maybe it'll get the wheels spinning. Some of you guys who don't have businesses yet, maybe are like, "Well, I get the funnel game. I just don't have a business yet." Well, cool. There's a couple of ways to go start a business from scratch really, really inexpensively, really quickly, and in a way where you don't do all the product development, or the copy, or all these things that maybe you're not as good at. You can find those things that are already finished, that are done, that are out there. I bet you 50 buck. In fact, I know this. If you go to flippa.com, F-L-I-P-P-P-A.com, there's hundreds of websites that are for sale. Also, Shopify has an exchange. I think it's called the Shopify exchange or something. If you go to Google, type in Shopify stores for sale, it'll pull up. It's a marketplace. Tons of you will have Shopify stores that are selling them. And I literally almost bought four or five of them last weekend. I was going through them all. I'm like, "Oh, my gosh." One was like Dollar Shave Club. It was like shaving stuff. It was like really cool shaving stuff. And there's also a beard club with all these beard things. I'm like, "I don't have a beard, but how cool if I bought a beard company and a shaving company, and I owned them both?" And they were super cheap. And basically, these guys created the brand, created the logos, created the products, launched it, didn't know how to actually drive traffic or sales. And all this stuff's done. All the hard work is finished. The suppliers, the manufacturers, the logos, the design, everything is done. They just have a Shopify store, which, as you guys know, is not going to make you nearly as much money as the funnel. I was like, "I'm just going to buy the Shopify store, plug the offers into a funnel, and boom, we're off to the races. And again, these are all skillsets that you guys have been learning here inside of our community. If you've been learning at Funnel Hacking Live, which, if you don't have your tickets yet, we're like 30 days away from that. Go to funnelhackinglive.com. But there's that. Right? There's the books. Right? If you've read the dotcom secrets book, you know how to do funnels. If you go to the one funnel-a-day challenge, if you've been incorporating into our community, you're learning the skillsets. You've just got to grab something and apply it to it. And it's literally the principle is universal. Right? Any product. And there's tons of out there, and you can start plugging it in so that you can go and you can create your own courses, which is an amazing way. You can go and get stuff off of Alibaba or Shopify, or excuse me, like from China. Or you can find people who already did, who already put together the store, who did all the hard work. They just don't know how to sell it. You can grab it, structure in a funnel, and boom, it's off to the races. I literally, my team, I sent them probably 30 of the Shopify stores I wanted to buy. And all of them would have been a cool little business that could be making, I don't know. Who knows? Five, 10 grand a month, just on autopilot by us just literally taking the products, plugging them into a funnel, getting an agency to drive Facebook ads to it. And then it just sends me money every single month. How fun is that? How cool is that? Are you guys getting this? This is what I'm talking about. This is why this game is so much fun. That's why I still can't sleep at night because this funnel game is expansive. It's always growing. It's so much fun. And anyway, I hope you guys are half as excited as I am. My goal is to keep you guys excited because this game is the best game that's ever been played. And you guys have a chance to play it at a level that nobody else in the history of all time has been able to do. Back in the day, people had to buy mailing lists and postage stamps, all sorts of stuff. Where you guys can literally just get a click funnels account, throw some things up, buy some Facebook ads, and you're in the game. That's it. It's so much fun. Anyway, I'm going to go. I just wanted to bring it up to you guys while I was having fun. Thanks so much for listening. Hopefully, it gets the wheels in your head spinning. I recommend go to flippa.com, and look for what's for sale. Go to ClickBank and scroll deep in the marketplace to the forgotten offers, and go find a forgotten often there and see if you can buy it from them, or you can license it from them. Go to Google and type in Shopify stores for sale. And again, I can't remember the name, but it's like a Shopify exchange that has all these Shopify store owners or people who did the whole thing, figured it out, got all the hard work done, and couldn't figure out how to make money with it. Now they're listing it for sale, and you can buy it. So many cool ways, so many fun things you can do. I hope this helps. And that's all I got. Thanks, guys. I appreciate you all for listening. Thanks for being part of our community. Get your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live. Again, it's at funnelhackinglive.com, before we are sold out. And I'm actually spending a lot of time at Funnel Hacking Live, talking about this and these unique opportunities. I call it virtual real estate. We're going to talk about virtual real estate and how to find it, and where it's at, and what you can do with it, and a bunch of other cool things. So that's all I got. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening and hanging out, and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here are some fun things you can do to launch businesses literally overnight.

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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I got a question for you. Are you currently buying dead businesses? If not, you got to listen to this episode. All right, I'm not going to lie. I'm having so much fun on some side projects, which goes against everything that I preach. If you've been in my inner circle and if you've been to my coaching programs, I always tell people, "Focus on one thing, and you've got to kill the other babies."

And so I understand I'm being a total hypocrite by doing this and talking about this, but alas, my ADD-ness needed an outlet, and so this is my outlet. It was either this or go watch a show on Netflix. I'm like, "All right, I'm just going to do this instead." So listen with caution, but hopefully, it gets you as excited.

So during COVID, all sorts of chaos happened. At the same time, there were a lot of really good businesses that went out of business because, honestly, the entrepreneurs who were running him don't know how to run funnels. That's literally it. And now that recently all the iOS updates and all the fighting between Apple and Facebook and stuff, the game is getting harder. And guess what? The people who are good at funnels are the ones who are winning. That's it because the people who are really good at funnels can spend more to acquire customer and everybody else.

And so, if you haven't mastered the funnel game yet, you have to learn it, or else you're not going to survive. And luckily for my funnel hackers, I've been teaching and training you guys for a long time. And most of you guys are rockstars, and you get it, therefore, you're having success. But for those who aren't, they're going to be out of business soon. And it leads to a really interesting, really cool, really fun opportunity for people like us, where we can take our funnel building skills, look at cool businesses that once we're profitable, that no longer are because the market changed and they weren't able to shift, and you can come in, and you can do some really cool things with it.

I want to give you guys a couple of case studies. I'm not going to tell you the details on anyone because none of them were live-live yet, but they're all close to live, and they're exciting. So there was one supplement company that I was really excited by, and I was a customer for a long time, and then they went out of business. And I started buying that supplements products because their sales video was so good. Right?

It went out of business. And then the next three or four years, I kept messaging the old owner like, "Why'd you take it down?" He's like, "Ah." They had their reasons. And I was like, I" want to buy it. I want to buy it." And finally, this year, I was able to negotiate to buy the entire company for a fraction of what they spent on just the sales video back in the day. And now we're about two weeks away from relaunching that brand and that company, which is so exciting. We literally just took it, took the formulas, tweaked it a little bit, took the sales video that was good, built out a funnel, and now we've got this new asset that's literally, we just can turn ads on, and it'll print money for the rest of my life until we sell it or something. But it's exciting.

Another thing is another supplement I was taking that was one of my favorite supplements, and then during COVID, it stopped coming. And I messaged the owners, and they're like, "Oh, supply chain management issues. We had to shut down." And I was like, "I love this company. I want to bring the brand back. If I help finance it, can we bring it back?" And we figured out a deal. And now I'm an owner of that company, and that's about to launch as well.

And then another, there was this really cool T-shirt company that I used to love. It was so exciting. And then the other day, I went to buy a T-shirt from them, and the site was down. I was like, "What?" And so I went, and I found the site, I found the owners, and I was like, "Dude, you guys, why is the site down?" Like, "Oh, we shut it down." And so I made an offer, and I bought it for insanely low price. And we bought the entire T-shirt company, which is exciting. And that's rolling out soon,

But there are millions, literally millions of deals like this out there. And somebody asked me, like, "I don't know how to find them. I don't know how to look for them." I would start opening your eyes. There are so many of these deals out there where you can take them, put a funnel on them, and boom, you're back in business. And there's tons.

In fact, one of the ways I used to do this back in the day, it's been a while since I did this, but I used to go to ClickBank, and ClickBank has their marketplace. And the marketplace is interesting because they rank things based on what's selling the most. Right? So like page one, you see the number one seller, number two, number three, all the way down to 10. But what I would do is I would go to like page 99. And you go back there, and there's some amazing offers that, one time, were amazing, but for whatever reason, the person stopped driving traffic to it. They may have done a product launch. They did something, and it's just sitting there. And it's basically dead.

I can't tell you how many of those old offers I would go to like, "The copy's good. The funnel's good. The product's good." I messaged the owner. I'm like, "Hey, what's happened to this product." They're like, "Oh, our Facebook account got shut down," or, "Hey, I did an initial launch, and then we just don't have any traffic." They don't have enough Facebook ads or a million different reasons why. Right? Or maybe there was an upsell and a down-sell, so Facebook ads didn't work, and so they just need an upsell. If they just applied some funnel techniques, it'd be good.

Or, "Hey, we could plug a challenge funnel in front of this thing, and that's the product we sell at the back of it. And the product is great." And I'd find these things way deep, buried In ClickBank's marketplace, and message the people. And then come back to them and be like, "Hey, number one, can I buy it from you?" Which is going to be more expensive because you're going to buy the domain, the brand, all that kind of stuff. Or number two is like, "I don't want to actually buy this from you. Can I license it from you?"

And then you may be like, "What's the licensing?" And it's like, "Well, basically, I'm going license to sells it. I'm going to license the product and license all the things." And a lot of times, it's really, really cheap to license at all, and then you can create your own brand out of it. And I've had literally dozens of deals like that, where I spent less than a thousand dollars to license somebody's entire business and product.

I got the ebook. I got the course. I got the sales, and I got everything for a thousand bucks, and it's something they probably spent 20 grand launching five years earlier. And it's still good. It just needs to be polished. It needs to be plugged into a funnel. It needs some traffic. It needs an upsell. It needs a down-sell. It needs something, but that's it. And there are so many opportunities and deals like that out there that I think most of us are forgetting or missing.

So start looking at what are the businesses out there that are struggling? What businesses have been shut down? What things did you use to buy that you no longer can buy? Could you buy the company? Could you license the product? Could you become a reseller? Could you apply your funnel knowledge to it? I've seen tons of people who got out there, taken really good products that are selling in one way. And they go and license it and then plug it into a funnel, and they own all the online distribution or the funnel distribution. Right?

They find authors who are selling books on Amazon and have no funnel. And they come, and they build the funnel for them. And then they give a royalty back to the author, but then they own the thing. Right? There's so many ways to make money in this game. And so anyway, I feel like my ADD dabble a little bit in some of these fun things. And like I said, we got two supplement brands and a T-shirt brand that are all launching from my ADD-ness, which is so much fun. So I guess that's better than watching Netflix.

Anyway, so I just want to show it to you guys because maybe it'll get the wheels spinning. Some of you guys who don't have businesses yet, maybe are like, "Well, I get the funnel game. I just don't have a business yet." Well, cool. There's a couple of ways to go start a business from scratch really, really inexpensively, really quickly, and in a way where you don't do all the product development, or the copy, or all these things that maybe you're not as good at. You can find those things that are already finished, that are done, that are out there. I bet you 50 buck.

In fact, I know this. If you go to flippa.com, F-L-I-P-P-P-A.com, there's hundreds of websites that are for sale. Also, Shopify has an exchange. I think it's called the Shopify exchange or something. If you go to Google, type in Shopify stores for sale, it'll pull up. It's a marketplace. Tons of you will have Shopify stores that are selling them. And I literally almost bought four or five of them last weekend. I was going through them all. I'm like, "Oh, my gosh." One was like Dollar Shave Club. It was like shaving stuff. It was like really cool shaving stuff. And there's also a beard club with all these beard things. I'm like, "I don't have a beard, but how cool if I bought a beard company and a shaving company, and I owned them both?" And they were super cheap.

And basically, these guys created the brand, created the logos, created the products, launched it, didn't know how to actually drive traffic or sales. And all this stuff's done. All the hard work is finished. The suppliers, the manufacturers, the logos, the design, everything is done. They just have a Shopify store, which, as you guys know, is not going to make you nearly as much money as the funnel. I was like, "I'm just going to buy the Shopify store, plug the offers into a funnel, and boom, we're off to the races.

And again, these are all skillsets that you guys have been learning here inside of our community. If you've been learning at Funnel Hacking Live, which, if you don't have your tickets yet, we're like 30 days away from that. Go to funnelhackinglive.com. But there's that. Right? There's the books. Right? If you've read the dotcom secrets book, you know how to do funnels. If you go to the one funnel-a-day challenge, if you've been incorporating into our community, you're learning the skillsets. You've just got to grab something and apply it to it.

And it's literally the principle is universal. Right? Any product. And there's tons of out there, and you can start plugging it in so that you can go and you can create your own courses, which is an amazing way. You can go and get stuff off of Alibaba or Shopify, or excuse me, like from China. Or you can find people who already did, who already put together the store, who did all the hard work. They just don't know how to sell it. You can grab it, structure in a funnel, and boom, it's off to the races.

I literally, my team, I sent them probably 30 of the Shopify stores I wanted to buy. And all of them would have been a cool little business that could be making, I don't know. Who knows? Five, 10 grand a month, just on autopilot by us just literally taking the products, plugging them into a funnel, getting an agency to drive Facebook ads to it. And then it just sends me money every single month. How fun is that? How cool is that? Are you guys getting this? This is what I'm talking about.

This is why this game is so much fun. That's why I still can't sleep at night because this funnel game is expansive. It's always growing. It's so much fun. And anyway, I hope you guys are half as excited as I am. My goal is to keep you guys excited because this game is the best game that's ever been played. And you guys have a chance to play it at a level that nobody else in the history of all time has been able to do. Back in the day, people had to buy mailing lists and postage stamps, all sorts of stuff. Where you guys can literally just get a click funnels account, throw some things up, buy some Facebook ads, and you're in the game. That's it. It's so much fun.

Anyway, I'm going to go. I just wanted to bring it up to you guys while I was having fun. Thanks so much for listening. Hopefully, it gets the wheels in your head spinning. I recommend go to flippa.com, and look for what's for sale. Go to ClickBank and scroll deep in the marketplace to the forgotten offers, and go find a forgotten often there and see if you can buy it from them, or you can license it from them. Go to Google and type in Shopify stores for sale. And again, I can't remember the name, but it's like a Shopify exchange that has all these Shopify store owners or people who did the whole thing, figured it out, got all the hard work done, and couldn't figure out how to make money with it. Now they're listing it for sale, and you can buy it.

So many cool ways, so many fun things you can do. I hope this helps. And that's all I got. Thanks, guys. I appreciate you all for listening. Thanks for being part of our community. Get your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live. Again, it's at funnelhackinglive.com, before we are sold out. And I'm actually spending a lot of time at Funnel Hacking Live, talking about this and these unique opportunities. I call it virtual real estate. We're going to talk about virtual real estate and how to find it, and where it's at, and what you can do with it, and a bunch of other cool things. So that's all I got. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening and hanging out, and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 741 no The "Big Domino" and Lowering Pressure and Noise https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-big-domino-and-lowering-pressure-and-noise A new way to look at the “big domino” and how it’ll help you function as an entrepreneur. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, good morning. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to talk about something that I know all of us entrepreneurs deal with a lot, which is pressure and noise. If you listen to Alex Charfen, if you studied him, the entrepreneur personality type, he talks a lot about how entrepreneurs, when you are able to lower pressure and noise, you can do greatness. You can change the world, but when the pressure and noise gets higher, it gets really difficult. And oftentimes it turns into chaos and into bad things. And so I talk about that during this episode, because I'm in definitely a state of increased pressure noise and I want to talk about what I'm doing to deal with it and how it's helping. So with that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song. When we come back, we're going to dive deep. All right. So sure, like most of you and every... Okay, what step you are in your entrepreneurial journey? If you are beginning, if you are growing, if you are scaling, if you are selling, if you are buying, if you were like, whatever you're doing, there are times when you have increased pressure and noise. And Alex Charfen's one of my friends, I love his stuff. He was one of our head coaches for two comma club, X coaching program for a while. And he has a whole message, he talks about entrepreneurial personality types, EPT as he calls it, people like us. and he always says, "You're not broken, you're not weird, you're just different. You're and entrepreneur and that's okay." And in his teachings, he talks a lot about just how entrepreneurs, a lot of times we think we're crazy. And like a lot of times entrepreneurs are the ones who snap and go crazy and go off the deep end and other times they're the ones who are creating the most amazing things in the world. And he talks about there's this fine line between greatness and chaos, right? And for entrepreneurs, the biggest thing you do is you have to if you can decrease the pressure noise around you, then you can succeed. But when the pressure noise goes up, that's where you typically, they crash and burn. If you think about if you've had a chance to crash and burn a business or two, you probably know it was during a season or a time of increased pressure noise, and it's hard to handle it. And that's when things happened, right? That's why it's so important to build a team and to have people around you and things help support you to decrease the pressure noise so you can succeed. So there's a little mini chunk out of Charfen's training so you guys understand kind of the context I'm talking about. But in my life over the last 30 days, has been an insane, increase in pressure noise. I can't talk about all the things, but people I love who I work with daily, or who have had health issues that I was not expecting, there's that. And then we just finished our first acquisition and we were in the middle of our second acquisition, so new companies coming in. We also have Funnel Hacking Live in 30 days. We also have a new coaching program that we are changing. We also have, I can't tell you all the things, there's a lot of stuff and it's exciting. And it's partially, it's the most exciting time of the business, right? I just have so many fun things and so many things I'm excited for it. But then on the other side, man, between all these things, I was not planning over the last 30 days the pressure and noise and things have gone up dramatically. And I don't know about you guys, but it's made it for me it's hard to sleep at night. I lay there in bed I'm so tired but I can't sleep because there's just these things happening and all the stuff and the stress and all the balls you're juggling, you don't want to drop them, right? And I'm curious, have you guys ever felt that before? And for me, the last month it's been hard to sleep. And then I come into the office and there's so many things to do that half of them I don't know where to start and there's this and there's this and there's this and all of them are on fire. And it's overwhelming sometimes. And so it's interesting because by default I want to get things done so I go and I start working, I'm trying to get task after task. But it seems like an insurmountable thing. And so earlier this week, I had a thought, and you guys have heard me talk about the big domino before, right? In every sales presentation, it's one big domino. If you can knock down that one domino, it takes care of everything else and all the other dominoes fall down. And it's true in selling, but it's true in a lot of aspects of life, right? And I started looking at all my big, huge tasks and all the things. Each to do had like 500 little sub to do's. Instead of looking at all the sub to do's, I started looking at the bigger tasks with bigger project and saying, "Okay, what's the one big domino I can do that's going to knock down all these little tasks?" There's no way I can do all of them, it's virtually impossible. What is the big domino or who is the big domino? Who is the person that's going to come that could take this off of my plate? What's been interesting is to be able to look at this differently, I've had to completely slow down, which has been hard for me because I'm like, "I'm not going to make it to the finish line if I stop." But at the same time, I'm not going to make the finish line no matter what. So, it's forced me to stop and say, "I got to find the person or the thing or whatever that's going to knock this thing down." It's made me sit there in my thoughts for a lot longer, which has been good. And I've often thought of how do I get done with the task? The thought is like, "Who is the person I can find it or what's the process or thing I need to do that gets rid of all the other tasks so I can actually make it to the finish line?" And as I've been doing that, it's been interesting because sometimes you ask better questions, you get better answers. And so that's the question I started asking. And all of a sudden the answer started coming clear and it was like, "Okay, well if I had a person for here, this would make all these things disappear." I'm like, "Well, who's the person for that? I don't know somebody." And it's like, "Okay, let's think." And sitting in your thoughts and thinking and thinking and praying and thinking and trying to figure things out. And all of a sudden it's like, "Oh, what about this person? Or how about this? Or how about this?" Or literally one of the things was a text message from a friend who was like, "Hey, there's this person you should meet." And it's like, "Oh my gosh, that person I think is the big domino is can knock down this set of things for me." And it's been interesting because this week I had a whole task list of stuff I had to get done and I had not had a chance to do my tasks yet. But I've had longer meetings, which I hate meetings. Typically, I have slow two to three hour meetings with certain people to build a relationship, to be able to hand the reins to somebody to then go and knock down the domino for me. And I can tell you Friday was the first time this happened. I remember leaving Friday and it was the first night I was just not stressed. When I left, I was like, "Oh my gosh, this might be possible." And today I did it again and it's like, "Okay, this might actually be possible." And it wasn't for me speeding up or spending more hours or doing more things. It was me stopping, stepping back and trying to figure out the big domino. So for you guys, as you are entrepreneurs and you have increased pressure noise, and you're stressing about all the things, I want to encourage you to slow down, or maybe even stop for a moment and look at those tasks differently. Not from "How in the world am I going to get get this done, where am I going to find the extra time?" But, "Who is the big domino or what is the big domino that if I can figure that out, it makes all these other ones irrelevant." And that's been the thing for me that's keeping me sane. It's getting me excited and helping me to now finally starting to see the finish line again. Like, "Oh my gosh, it's there, I can see it, it's possible, you're saying there's a chance I could actually make it to the end." And so, as I'm getting through that and again, I spent two and a half hours meeting somebody today and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I feel better. I'm going to probably sleep tonight a little bit. I'm pumped about that." It made me think I'm going to stop for a second and just do a quick podcast for my people, because I'm sure some of you guys are in that same season. If you're not now, you will be soon. And so just remembering the big domino concept in a way that you can solve these kind of problems for yourself. So I hope that helps, I hope that was useful. I'm grateful for all you guys for listening, for subscribing, for paying attention. I'm trying to serve you at my highest level and sometimes it's overwhelming, but I feel like we're doing good work. And I feel like the fruits of this stuff that we're creating for you guys right now is going to change a lot of lives, hopefully your life. So keep your eyes out. Everything from Funnel Hacking Live until January of 20, whatever next year is, 2022, it's going to be a crazy ride. You'll see a lot of stuff happened and it's going to be, fun. So I'm pumped. I'm pumped to show you what we've been working on. That's all I got. There's the tease. All right, appreciate you all each for listening and we'll talk to you all soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The "Big Domino" and Lowering Pressure and Noise full 442 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A new way to look at the “big domino” and how it’ll help you function as an entrepreneur. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, good morning. This is Russell... A new way to look at the “big domino” and how it’ll help you function as an entrepreneur. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, good morning. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to talk about something that I know all of us entrepreneurs deal with a lot, which is pressure and noise. If you listen to Alex Charfen, if you studied him, the entrepreneur personality type, he talks a lot about how entrepreneurs, when you are able to lower pressure and noise, you can do greatness. You can change the world, but when the pressure and noise gets higher, it gets really difficult. And oftentimes it turns into chaos and into bad things. And so I talk about that during this episode, because I'm in definitely a state of increased pressure noise and I want to talk about what I'm doing to deal with it and how it's helping. So with that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song. When we come back, we're going to dive deep. All right. So sure, like most of you and every... Okay, what step you are in your entrepreneurial journey? If you are beginning, if you are growing, if you are scaling, if you are selling, if you are buying, if you were like, whatever you're doing, there are times when you have increased pressure and noise. And Alex Charfen's one of my friends, I love his stuff. He was one of our head coaches for two comma club, X coaching program for a while. And he has a whole message, he talks about entrepreneurial personality types, EPT as he calls it, people like us. and he always says, "You're not broken, you're not weird, you're just different. You're and entrepreneur and that's okay." And in his teachings, he talks a lot about just how entrepreneurs, a lot of times we think we're crazy. And like a lot of times entrepreneurs are the ones who snap and go crazy and go off the deep end and other times they're the ones who are creating the most amazing things in the world. And he talks about there's this fine line between greatness and chaos, right? And for entrepreneurs, the biggest thing you do is you have to if you can decrease the pressure noise around you, then you can succeed. But when the pressure noise goes up, that's where you typically, they crash and burn. If you think about if you've had a chance to crash and burn a business or two, you probably know it was during a season or a time of increased pressure noise, and it's hard to handle it. And that's when things happened, right? That's why it's so important to build a team and to have people around you and things help support you to decrease the pressure noise so you can succeed. So there's a little mini chunk out of Charfen's training so you guys understand kind of the context I'm talking about. But in my life over the last 30 days, has been an insane, increase in pressure noise. I can't talk about all the things, but people I love who I work with daily, or who have had health issues that I was not expecting, there's that. And then we just finished our first acquisition and we were in the middle of our second acquisition, so new companies coming in. We also have Funnel Hacking Live in 30 days. We also have a new coaching program that we are changing. We also have, I can't tell you all the things, there's a lot of stuff and it's exciting. And it's partially, it's the most exciting time of the business, right? I just have so many fun things and so many things I'm excited for it. But then on the other side, man, between all these things, I was not planning over the last 30 days the pressure and noise and things have gone up dramatically. And I don't know about you guys, but it's made it for me it's hard to sleep at night. I lay there in bed I'm so tired but I can't sleep because there's just these things happening and all the stuff and the stress and all the balls you're juggling, you don't want to drop them, right? And I'm curious, have you guys ever felt that before? And for me, the last month it's been hard to sleep. And then I come into the office and there's so many things to do that half of them I don't know where to start and there's this and there's this and there's this and all of them are on fire. And it's overwhelming sometimes. And so it's interesting because by default I want to get things done so I go and I start working, I'm trying to get task after task. But it seems like an insurmountable thing. And so earlier this week, I had a thought, and you guys have heard me talk about the big domino before, right? In every sales presentation, it's one big domino. If you can knock down that one domino, it takes care of everything else and all the other dominoes fall down. And it's true in selling, but it's true in a lot of aspects of life, right? And I started looking at all my big, huge tasks and all the things. Each to do had like 500 little sub to do's. Instead of looking at all the sub to do's, I started looking at the bigger tasks with bigger project and saying, "Okay, what's the one big domino I can do that's going to knock down all these little tasks?" There's no way I can do all of them, it's virtually impossible. What is the big domino or who is the big domino? Who is the person that's going to come that could take this off of my plate? What's been interesting is to be able to look at this differently, I've had to completely slow down, which has been hard for me because I'm like, "I'm not going to make it to the finish line if I stop." But at the same time, I'm not going to make the finish line no matter what. So, it's forced me to stop and say, "I got to find the person or the thing or whatever that's going to knock this thing down." It's made me sit there in my thoughts for a lot longer, which has been good. And I've often thought of how do I get done with the task? The thought is like, "Who is the person I can find it or what's the process or thing I need to do that gets rid of all the other tasks so I can actually make it to the finish line?" And as I've been doing that, it's been interesting because sometimes you ask better questions, you get better answers. And so that's the question I started asking. And all of a sudden the answer started coming clear and it was like, "Okay, well if I had a person for here, this would make all these things disappear." I'm like, "Well, who's the person for that? I don't know somebody." And it's like, "Okay, let's think." And sitting in your thoughts and thinking and thinking and praying and thinking and trying to figure things out. And all of a sudden it's like, "Oh, what about this person? Or how about this? Or how about this?" Or literally one of the things was a text message from a friend who was like, "Hey, there's this person you should meet." And it's like, "Oh my gosh, that person I think is the big domino is can knock down this set of things for me." And it's been interesting because this week I had a whole task list of stuff I had to get done and I had not had a chance to do my tasks yet. But I've had longer meetings, which I hate meetings. Typically, I have slow two to three hour meetings with certain people to build a relationship, to be able to hand the reins to somebody to then go and knock down the domino for me. And I can tell you Friday was the first time this happened. I remember leaving Friday and it was the first night I was just not stressed. When I left, I was like, "Oh my gosh, this might be possible." And today I did it again and it's like, "Okay, this might actually be possible." And it wasn't for me speeding up or spending more hours or doing more things. It was me stopping, stepping back and trying to figure out the big domino. So for you guys, as you are entrepreneurs and you have increased pressure noise, and you're stressing about all the things, I want to encourage you to slow down, or maybe even stop for a moment and look at those tasks differently. Not from "How in the world am I going to get get this done, where am I going to find the extra time?" But, "Who is the big domino or what is the big domino that if I can figure that out, it makes all these other ones irrelevant." And that's been the thing for me that's keeping me sane. It's getting me excited and helping me to now finally starting to see the finish line again. Like, "Oh my gosh, it's there, I can see it, it's possible, you're saying there's a chance I could actually make it to the end." And so, as I'm getting through that and again, I spent two and a half hours meeting somebody today and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I feel better. I'm going to probably sleep tonight a little bit. I'm pumped about that." It made me think I'm going to stop for a second and just do a quick podcast for my people, because I'm sure some of you guys are in that same season. If you're not now, you will be soon. And so just remembering the big domino concept in a way that you can solve these kind of problems for yourself. So I hope that helps, I hope that was useful. I'm grateful for all you guys for listening, for subscribing, for paying attention. I'm trying to serve you at my highest level and sometimes it's overwhelming, but I feel like we're doing good work. And I feel like the fruits of this stuff that we're creating for you guys right now is going to change a lot of lives, hopefully your life. So keep your eyes out. Everything from Funnel Hacking Live until January of 20, whatever next year is, 2022, it's going to be a crazy ride. You'll see a lot of stuff happened and it's going to be, fun. So I'm pumped. I'm pumped to show you what we've been working on. That's all I got. There's the tease. All right, appreciate you all each for listening and we'll talk to you all soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A new way to look at the “big domino” and how it’ll help you function as an entrepreneur.

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---Transcript---

What's up everybody, good morning. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to talk about something that I know all of us entrepreneurs deal with a lot, which is pressure and noise. If you listen to Alex Charfen, if you studied him, the entrepreneur personality type, he talks a lot about how entrepreneurs, when you are able to lower pressure and noise, you can do greatness. You can change the world, but when the pressure and noise gets higher, it gets really difficult. And oftentimes it turns into chaos and into bad things. And so I talk about that during this episode, because I'm in definitely a state of increased pressure noise and I want to talk about what I'm doing to deal with it and how it's helping. So with that said, I'm going to cue up the theme song. When we come back, we're going to dive deep.

All right. So sure, like most of you and every... Okay, what step you are in your entrepreneurial journey? If you are beginning, if you are growing, if you are scaling, if you are selling, if you are buying, if you were like, whatever you're doing, there are times when you have increased pressure and noise. And Alex Charfen's one of my friends, I love his stuff. He was one of our head coaches for two comma club, X coaching program for a while. And he has a whole message, he talks about entrepreneurial personality types, EPT as he calls it, people like us. and he always says, "You're not broken, you're not weird, you're just different. You're and entrepreneur and that's okay." And in his teachings, he talks a lot about just how entrepreneurs, a lot of times we think we're crazy. And like a lot of times entrepreneurs are the ones who snap and go crazy and go off the deep end and other times they're the ones who are creating the most amazing things in the world.

And he talks about there's this fine line between greatness and chaos, right? And for entrepreneurs, the biggest thing you do is you have to if you can decrease the pressure noise around you, then you can succeed. But when the pressure noise goes up, that's where you typically, they crash and burn. If you think about if you've had a chance to crash and burn a business or two, you probably know it was during a season or a time of increased pressure noise, and it's hard to handle it. And that's when things happened, right? That's why it's so important to build a team and to have people around you and things help support you to decrease the pressure noise so you can succeed.

So there's a little mini chunk out of Charfen's training so you guys understand kind of the context I'm talking about. But in my life over the last 30 days, has been an insane, increase in pressure noise. I can't talk about all the things, but people I love who I work with daily, or who have had health issues that I was not expecting, there's that. And then we just finished our first acquisition and we were in the middle of our second acquisition, so new companies coming in. We also have Funnel Hacking Live in 30 days. We also have a new coaching program that we are changing. We also have, I can't tell you all the things, there's a lot of stuff and it's exciting. And it's partially, it's the most exciting time of the business, right? I just have so many fun things and so many things I'm excited for it.

But then on the other side, man, between all these things, I was not planning over the last 30 days the pressure and noise and things have gone up dramatically. And I don't know about you guys, but it's made it for me it's hard to sleep at night. I lay there in bed I'm so tired but I can't sleep because there's just these things happening and all the stuff and the stress and all the balls you're juggling, you don't want to drop them, right? And I'm curious, have you guys ever felt that before? And for me, the last month it's been hard to sleep. And then I come into the office and there's so many things to do that half of them I don't know where to start and there's this and there's this and there's this and all of them are on fire. And it's overwhelming sometimes.

And so it's interesting because by default I want to get things done so I go and I start working, I'm trying to get task after task. But it seems like an insurmountable thing. And so earlier this week, I had a thought, and you guys have heard me talk about the big domino before, right? In every sales presentation, it's one big domino. If you can knock down that one domino, it takes care of everything else and all the other dominoes fall down.

And it's true in selling, but it's true in a lot of aspects of life, right? And I started looking at all my big, huge tasks and all the things. Each to do had like 500 little sub to do's. Instead of looking at all the sub to do's, I started looking at the bigger tasks with bigger project and saying, "Okay, what's the one big domino I can do that's going to knock down all these little tasks?" There's no way I can do all of them, it's virtually impossible. What is the big domino or who is the big domino? Who is the person that's going to come that could take this off of my plate? What's been interesting is to be able to look at this differently, I've had to completely slow down, which has been hard for me because I'm like, "I'm not going to make it to the finish line if I stop." But at the same time, I'm not going to make the finish line no matter what.

So, it's forced me to stop and say, "I got to find the person or the thing or whatever that's going to knock this thing down." It's made me sit there in my thoughts for a lot longer, which has been good. And I've often thought of how do I get done with the task? The thought is like, "Who is the person I can find it or what's the process or thing I need to do that gets rid of all the other tasks so I can actually make it to the finish line?" And as I've been doing that, it's been interesting because sometimes you ask better questions, you get better answers.

And so that's the question I started asking. And all of a sudden the answer started coming clear and it was like, "Okay, well if I had a person for here, this would make all these things disappear." I'm like, "Well, who's the person for that? I don't know somebody." And it's like, "Okay, let's think." And sitting in your thoughts and thinking and thinking and praying and thinking and trying to figure things out. And all of a sudden it's like, "Oh, what about this person? Or how about this? Or how about this?" Or literally one of the things was a text message from a friend who was like, "Hey, there's this person you should meet." And it's like, "Oh my gosh, that person I think is the big domino is can knock down this set of things for me."

And it's been interesting because this week I had a whole task list of stuff I had to get done and I had not had a chance to do my tasks yet. But I've had longer meetings, which I hate meetings. Typically, I have slow two to three hour meetings with certain people to build a relationship, to be able to hand the reins to somebody to then go and knock down the domino for me. And I can tell you Friday was the first time this happened. I remember leaving Friday and it was the first night I was just not stressed. When I left, I was like, "Oh my gosh, this might be possible." And today I did it again and it's like, "Okay, this might actually be possible." And it wasn't for me speeding up or spending more hours or doing more things. It was me stopping, stepping back and trying to figure out the big domino.

So for you guys, as you are entrepreneurs and you have increased pressure noise, and you're stressing about all the things, I want to encourage you to slow down, or maybe even stop for a moment and look at those tasks differently. Not from "How in the world am I going to get get this done, where am I going to find the extra time?" But, "Who is the big domino or what is the big domino that if I can figure that out, it makes all these other ones irrelevant."

And that's been the thing for me that's keeping me sane. It's getting me excited and helping me to now finally starting to see the finish line again. Like, "Oh my gosh, it's there, I can see it, it's possible, you're saying there's a chance I could actually make it to the end." And so, as I'm getting through that and again, I spent two and a half hours meeting somebody today and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I feel better. I'm going to probably sleep tonight a little bit. I'm pumped about that." It made me think I'm going to stop for a second and just do a quick podcast for my people, because I'm sure some of you guys are in that same season. If you're not now, you will be soon.

And so just remembering the big domino concept in a way that you can solve these kind of problems for yourself. So I hope that helps, I hope that was useful. I'm grateful for all you guys for listening, for subscribing, for paying attention. I'm trying to serve you at my highest level and sometimes it's overwhelming, but I feel like we're doing good work. And I feel like the fruits of this stuff that we're creating for you guys right now is going to change a lot of lives, hopefully your life. So keep your eyes out. Everything from Funnel Hacking Live until January of 20, whatever next year is, 2022, it's going to be a crazy ride. You'll see a lot of stuff happened and it's going to be, fun. So I'm pumped. I'm pumped to show you what we've been working on.

That's all I got. There's the tease. All right, appreciate you all each for listening and we'll talk to you all soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 620 no ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 4 of 4 (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/clickfunnels-startup-story-part-4-of-4-revisited On today’s episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell’s interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the 4th and final installment here of the interview with Andrew Warner at the Dry Bar Comedy Club, where he’s going deep into the Clickfunnels startup story. I hope you’ve enjoyed it so far. You know, throughout this entire interview, it was really fun. He brought my wife onstage and some of my partners onstage, and brought other people who didn’t like me at first onstage and kind of shared all these things. I hope all you guys are enjoying it and really enjoying this interview. I hope that this starts making you think about your startup story. Some of you guys are living your startup story right now, and maybe you’re depressed or nervous, or scared, or afraid or whatever. And hopefully this gives you motivation to know that I was there too. In fact, I’m still there many times, but it’s okay and it’s part of the game and part of the process. And someday you’ll look back and you’ll have someone like Andrew interviewing you about your startup story and you’ll be so grateful for the trials and things you’re going through now. So with that said, we’re going to queue up the theme song, when we come back we’ll listen to part 4 of 4 of the Clickfunnels startup story interview with Andrew Warner at the Dry Bar Comedy Club. Andrew: And I know a lot of you have asked me what’s coming up next and Russell’s going to talk about that, how you’re going to get to Sales Force level, but why don’t I take a couple of questions from someone. Is there anyone who’s been sitting here going, “I can’t believe Andrew didn’t ask that.”? Is there anyone who has something standing out for them? Should we just have them onstage. Unknown person: We got mic’s. Andrew: We got mic’s from over there, okay. Audience member: Alright, a little bit deeper of a question. What is something, I know you’re strong in your faith, family, God, I mean kind of all around, what’s something that’s really made you who you are? You’ve mentioned before that made you as a marketer with your dad, you’re up late watching an infomercial. But what’s something that inherently that could have been experienced, maybe a quote in the back of your mind that’s just driven you, it could have been something that your parents taught you when you were young. What is, is there, it’s kind of a little bit difficult of a question to look back, there’s probably a million things. But what are one or two that really stick out, that make you the person that you are? Russell: I have a million thoughts just racing through my head. The one that just popped in the front, so I’ll share that one, hopefully it’s good. I remember when I was a kid my dad gave me a job to go clean the car. I went out there and I cleaned the car, I did my best job, I thought. And I came back in and I was like, “Hey dad, it’s clean. Can I go play?” I was like, “Come look at it.” So he could let me go out and play. And he was like, “Well, is it good? Are you proud of it?” and I’m like, “I don’t know.” And he’s like, “Well, are you proud of it.” I was like, “I don’t know.” And he’s like, “Go work on it until you’re proud of it, then come back and let me know.” And I was like, oh man. So I go back out, and I was like, “Am I proud of this?” and I was thinking about it, I guess technically I’m really not that proud of it. So I was like trying to do more things, trying to clean it better, and to the point where I was actually proud of it. And then I came back and I’m like, “Dad, okay the car’s clean now.” And he’s like, “Are you proud of it.” I’m like, “I am.” And he’s like, “Okay, you can go out and play then.” I think for me that was such a big thing because it was just like, that internal “Am I proud of this thing that I’m giving, that I’m putting out there?” and if not, keep doing it until you are. And I don’t know, that was one of those little weird dad moments that he probably didn’t mean as a teaching opportunity, but definitely has been big for me ever since then. Andrew: Good question. Is there one on this side? While you’re finding a person who has a question, Whitney, did you have more to say? You were going to ask more, right? Yeah, can you get the mic over to Whitney, please? She’s right over here. I know I didn’t ask your full question. Whitney: Hi Russell, how are you? Russell: Awesome, how are you doing? Whitney: Good. So with your business, what is, back to like when you were first starting, I kind of want to know, what’s the one thing when your business was really hard, when you were really struggling, what’s the one thing that kept you going? Just in the back of your mind. And then I have a second part of that. What would you say was your biggest failure and what was the greatest lesson you learned from it? Russell: That’s not an easy question. Andrew: The biggest failure. Russell: Oh man. So the first question was, what was the first one again? Thinking about the biggest failure, I’m trying to…Oh, what kept it going? Andrew: Give me a sec. Are you going through that now? You are, what are you going through right now? Can you stand up and get close to the mic? I can see that this is a meaningful question for a reason. What’s going on? Be open. Whitney: I’m just trying with my business, I’m trying to get my message out there. I’m really, I’m just baby parts of Clickfunnels, so I’m just figuring out how to do a funnel still. But my company is called Creating Powerful Women, so I am just trying to teach women how to grow a business while they grow their family at the same time. And I’m doing that right now, because I have 3 little tiny girls. So I’m just like, okay, I’m still trying to figure out this myself and then teach women how to do it at the same time. So it’s just, I’m still in that struggle phase. Andrew: Is it partially because you feel like an imposter, how can I tell them what to do? That’s what I was saying to you earlier. Whitney: When I don’t even know. Yeah. {Crosstalk} Whitney: I feel like I need to have that success level before I can teach women to go out and do it. But the reason when I found you in the hall, and I said, “I want Russell to be vulnerable and tell like the nitty gritty parts of the story.” And those stories are what make people relatable to you, that’s kind of where I’m at, as I realize that I grow a bigger following and a bigger audience when I’m more relatable to them, which I realize I don’t need to be up at that level to do that. Andrew: I get that. Russell: So my question for you is, have you been working with women? Helping them so far? Tell me a story of someone you’ve helped. I’m curious. Whitney: So I went through post partum depression a couple of years ago, after I had a baby and a lot of the women I’ve been reaching out to when I shared those stories, those women have been coming to me saying, “Hey, how do you get through this struggle? I know you’ve gotten past that, so I want to hear the hard stories that you went through.” So a lot of the people who I’ve been coaching one on one have been people who have gone through those exact same things  that I have. Russell: Okay when you do that, and you share the stuff with them, and that clicks for them, how does that feel? Whitney: Like I’m fulfilling what I was put on this planet to do. Russell: That’s the thing. That’s the thing that keeps me going. It doesn’t happen often, but it happens often enough that I crave that. I’m super introverted, so it’s always awkward for people to come to me, but I still love when they come to me and they’re like, “Hey, just so you know real quick…..” Like last night, we were in San Francisco, or San Diego, excuse me. Someone came up to me in the hall and I was kind of like, I’m nervous to talk to you but you’re going to talk to me. And he said, “Hey, just real quick, you legitimately changed my life, you changed my family.” And started tearing up. And I was just like, I let myself feel that just for a second and then I go back to the awkwardness, but for a second I feel that. And It’s just like ahh. That’s what it’s about you know. I use Voxer for my coaching clients. So every time they Vox me and say something like that, there’s a little star button and I star it and it stores them in this huge thing of all the starred ones. So now days I’ll go back and I’ll listen to that and I’ll listen to people like 2 years ago that said something about how something I did effected them, and it’s just like, that feeling. Because everything we do in this life is for feeling’s right. Everything is just a feeling we’re looking for. We eat because we want a feeling. We did this because we, I wanted a feeling. We’re doing everything for a feeling. So it’s like if I can remember the feelings of the thing I’m trying to get, and I can experience it again, then it, that’s what gets me and keeps me going.  And I think that any of us that are lucky enough to have those feelings, a lot of times we forget about them. No, remember that because that’s the thing, when it’s hard and it’s painful and it’s dark, it’s that feeling that’s just like, that’s the, you remember that and you let yourself experience it again for a minute. And then for me, that’s like, okay, I can get back up and I can go again. Andrew: Great question, I’m glad you asked it. How about one more over there? You know what, yeah, let’s give her a big round of applause, please. Audience member: I was actually going to ask a little bit about that vulnerability. I was surprised, I’m big in the SAAS space, I’ve been to Dream Force, follow a lot of Clickfunnels. It’s pretty rare to see a CEO want to put themselves kind of on the roasting side of things. You’re from here, from Sandy. I was just kind of surprised, what was it that really compelled you to kind of want to come back and do this in Utah? When I saw your email I thought it was a clickbait scam. Russell: Oh it is, we’re selling you something next. Audience member: I really thought I was going to come and it was going to be a video of your face spinning and it was going to be like, “Hi, we’re here.” Because I follow Clickfunnels, but it’s just really rare, especially being down in Utah county, that was kind of unique that way. Andrew: Wait, one sec. Does Clickfunnels allow me to actually place someone’s city in the headline, like I want someone from San Francisco, you could. Oh, alright, I get it. Audience Member: It said like Idaho, we’re in the surrounding areas, it’s going out to 8000 people, limited seating. So as a marketer I was just like, is this a real thing? You know. So I showed up and I was excited to see you. But why come back to Utah, what does this event mean to you and why want to be vulnerable and kind of open up? I learned a lot about you personally that was great to hear from a business side. Russell: So my beliefs are, and I believe we have the best software company in the world, so I’m going to start with that. But if it’s just about the software, then it comes down to who’s got what feature. People are moving and shifting and changing because of the features. That’s the thing. So Clickfunnels was like, no it has to be more and it has to be a thing. And it’s interesting, people who sign up for Clickfunnels, who click on an ad, they come and sign up. That’s why John can’t do, it doesn’t work that way. They sign up for a web, clickfunnels is a website builder for crying out loud. You boil it down, we are a website builder. That is boring. So people don’t come for that. They stay for that. That’s why they stay, that’s why they stay. But they come because of a feeling, and they come because of a connection. I want to be able to take the videos from here because if I can more people who come through my funnels to hear this story, they’re going to stick with Clickfunnels because they realize we have a soul. There’s a reason behind this, it’s not just the software company who’s trying to make a bunch of money. We’re actually, we have belief behind it. So that’s why we do all these things. That’s why I still write books. That’s why we do videos. That’s why we do vlogs. That’s why we do this fun stuff, because it builds connection with people, and connection really keeps people staying, even if some other company’s got a different feature than we do, or it’s cheaper and we’re more expensive, or whatever. So that’s the big reason why we still do it. And then I thought it would be fun to come down here because I grew up not far from here and it’s just kind of a fun thing. We’ve been working with the Harmon Brothers and we started another project with them and their family owns the Dry Bar Comedy Club, if you guys have ever watched Vid Angel, that’s one of their families companies. When Vid Angel had their little hiccups, they shifted all the programming to this, the Dry Bar Comedy Club, so we used to watch all the comedians here. And I was like, this is like the coolest location to do something like this. And one of the other side jokes, I don’t know if I shared this with you or if it was just in my head, but Andrew is famous for doing these big scotch nights, and as a Mormon I can’t drink scotch. And I was like, what if we did this, but at a Dry Bar, just this funny play off of that? And it all worked out. Andrew: You know, usually at events I do scotch night afterwards and say, ‘Everyone come back to my room.’ That’s not going to go over very well. But Dave’s been to mine. He drinks water and feels comfortable. We have good water for Dave. How about one more, then I want to get into the future. Audience Member: So you always talk about how, like for Clickfunnels you guys took like 6 tries to finally make it work, right. And how most of the time when you guys start something it doesn’t work the first time, that’s why you have audibles and all those things. So I was wondering as someone that, you know I’m starting and getting that, kind of like that lifts, what is the biggest thing that you see, versus like a flop funnel versus something that kind of takes off and explodes? What’s the audible or the change that you normally do that shift or the message change or whatever it is, that makes it finally take off? Russell: Traditionally the difference between a funnel that works and doesn’t work, I’d say it’s probably 50% offer. Like if the offer’s wrong it’s not gonna, that’s usually the first thing. But then if it’s actually a good offer, that people actually want, second then is usually copy. So like what’s the hook, those kind of things. And then design is probably 3rd. All that stuff that Theron and those guys didn’t like at first. The things that, because it’s not like we just made up this stuff, you saw 8000 funnels we tested and tried in the journey of 15 years of this, that now we know what things people convert on. So it’s just like looking at stuff that you know is working and modeling it because you this structure works, this kind of thing. But usually when something is broken it’s coming back and figuring out, this offer’s not right. People didn’t want it. And that was the problem with Clickfunnels. The offer, we took 4 or 5 times to get the offer right, and then as soon as the offer is right, you can tell when it’s right because people will buy, even if everything else is bad, if your offer is amazing people will give you money for it, you know. So that’s definitely the biggest part, and from there it’s copy, then design, then all the little things that stress some people out, like me. Andrew: So I’ve got, we’ll come back. I see there are a few people that have more questions; we’ll come back to them in a moment, including you. I promise I’ll do more. But you did tell me about all the different things you guys are working on now. Of all of them, what one is going to get you the closest to Sales Force level? Russell: That’s a good question, there’s so many things. So I would say, I’m going to ask you a question is that alright? Have you ever played bigger yet? Played bigger? Playing bigger?  Andrew: No, what do you mean by that? Russell: That’s the name of the book right? Play Bigger? Andrew: Oh Playing Bigger, the book. No. Russell: Yes. So that’s book’s been interesting, if you guys haven’t read it, it’s one of the biggest ones as a team that we’ve been reading. But it’s all about designing the category and becoming the king of that category. So I feel like we are the king of sales funnels, and that’s our category, the thing that’s going to be there. And then if you read through the book, the next phases are like, building out the ecosystem that supports you as the category. And the fascinating thing about sales force, if you look at it when, I probably shouldn’t say this on video because someday Mark Benioff’s going to watch this and be like, “I’ll never give you money.” But sales force isn’t great software, right. It’s this hub that things are tied into, but the reason why they did 13 billion this year, they’re trying to get to 20 billion is because they built this ecosystem. The ecosystem is what supports this thing and grows it up, and builds it. And that’s like the next phase. So I think for us, it’s like we have this, we have funnels which are the key. It’s like the CRM for them, it’s the central point. But it’s then bringing all the ecosystem, it’s building up all the things around it, right. Andrew: Letting other people create things on your platform, becoming a platform. Russell: Yes, becoming a true platform. Andrew: can you create a platform when what you want is the all in one solution when you’re saying, “you don’t have to plug in your chat bot to our software. We’re going to be chat bot software.” “You don’t have to plug in infusion soft, we’ve got email marketing in here or mail chimp.” Russell: It depends, because you look at Sales Force is similar too. They have their own things that they either acquire and bring them in, or they build their own, things like that. And I think it’s a hybrid of that. I think it’s, we allow people to integrate because some people have tools. We will, our goal is to always be the best sales funnel builder on planet earth. We may not be the best email auto responder in the world, we have one and that increases our revenue. And people who love us will use our email auto responder, but there may be some other one that’s better. But it’s not our big focal point. There may be a chat bot that’s got more features and more things, that’s not gonna be our focus to make it the best, but we’ve got one built in to make it. So theer will be, that’s kind of our thought, that we will have the things included, so if people want to go all in they can use it. But if they love yours because of these things, they can still bring that and still bring it in. You know, and then as we grow, who knows what the next phase is. Is it acquisitions, finding the best partners? People that most of our members are using, start acquiring companies and bringing them in, internally similar to what Sales Force does, growing the platform. Andrew: Just keep letting people build on your platform and then does that make the platform more valuable, or do you guys get a share of the money that people spend on these external tools? Russell: Both, I think. Stripe for example, Stripe, I think we process 1.7 billion dollars through Stripe. We make over a million bucks a year from Stripe referral fees, for just letting them connect with us. So there’s value on both sides because it makes the platform more valuable because people can use it easier, but we also make money that direction as well, and those type of things. Andrew: Okay, what is Actionlytics, Action… Russell: Actionetics. Andrew: Excuse me. Russell: So that was Todd’s name. He loved that name. So Actionetics is, it’s what we call internally, follow-up funnels. So we have sales funnels, which are page one, page two, page three, page four. Then a follow-up funnel is send this email, send this text message. “Here’s the retargeting pixels, here’s the thing.” So it’s the follow-up funnels. It’s all of the communication that’s happened after somebody leaves the page with your audience. Andrew: And that’s a new product that you guys are creating? Russell: Yeah, it’s been, actually we make more revenue from Actionetics than we do from Clickfunnels right now. We’ve never marketed it outside though. Andrew: I can’t get access to it, it asked me for my username and password. I said, I don’t have that, so how do I sign up for it? Russell: it’s only been in beta. So we opened up at Funnel Hacking Live, people signed up there. And then we kept it down for a year, then we opened it, so two Funnel Hacking Lives we opened it, and then my birthday we opened it. So that’s it. But we have, it’s over, 12-13 thousand members who have upgraded to that. And then we’re probably a couple weeks away from the actual public launch where people will be to get, everyone will be able to get access. Andrew: And already people are spending more money on that than Clickfunnels? Russell: Yeah, because it starts at $300 a month versus $100. So it’s the ascension up. So they go from $100 a month to $300 a month and then the new one, it scales with you. Because we’re sending emails and Facebook message, it gives us an ability to grow with the platform as well, and not just have a $200 a month limit. Someone might pay $1000 or $5000 depending on how big their lists are. Andrew: You’re really good at these upsells, you’re really good at these extra features. How do you think about what to add? How do the rest of us think about it, based on what’s worked for you? Russell: Okay, that’s a great question, and everyone thinks it’s a product, the question most people ask is, what price point should my upsells be? It has nothing to do with that. It has 100% to with the logical progression of events for your customer. So when someone comes to you and they buy something, let’s just say it’s weight loss. So they come to you and they buy a weight loss book right, and let’s say it’s about how to get abs. So they buy that, the second they put their credit card in and click the button, in their mind that problem has now been solved. I now have six pack abs, the second it’s done. And people don’t think that. So what people do wrong is the next page is like, “Cool, you bought my abs book. Do you want my abs video series?” it’s like, “No, I just solved that problem. I gave you money. It’s been solved.” So what we have to think through, for logical upsells is like, “okay, I just got abs, what’s the next logical thing I need?” So it’s like, “Cool you got abs now, but how would you like biceps? We can work it out. This is my training program to grow here.” For funnels it’s like, here’s this funnels software, or here’s this book teaching you how to build funnels, but after you have a funnel you need traffic. So traffic’s the next logical progression. So as soon as someone’s bought something, the customer’s mind, I believe, that problems been solved. And it’s like, what’s the new problem that’s been opened up, because that problem’s been solved. That’s the logical… Andrew: I got my email addresses because of Clickfunnels, the next problem I’m probably going to have is what do I send to people? And that’s what you’re solving. What about this, fill your funnel, it’s a new software. Russell: Yeah. Andrew: What is it? Russell: How do you know these things? That is good, you have been digging. So I’m writing my third book right now, it’s called Traffic Secrets, and then on the back of it we have software that’s called Fill Your Funnel, that matches how we do traffic with the book. So when someone reads the book, you login and the way we do traffic, we focus very heavily on influencers. We call it the Dream 100. So you come in and you login and you’re like, “Here’s the people in my market. There’s Tony Robbins, there’s Andrew..” you list all these people and it starts pulling all our data, scraping all their ads, their funnels, everything  and shows you everything that’s happening in their companies, so you can reverse engineer it for what you’re doing. Andrew: So if I admire what John is doing for you guys, I could put you in the software, you’ll show me what you guys are doing, and then I’ll be able to scrape it and do it myself. You’re nodding. And you’re okay with that? John: It’s awesome. I’m excited. Russell: Excited. Andrew: Have you been doing that? Is that part of what’s worked for you guys at Clickfunnels? John: Yeah, we like to, we call it funnel hacking. We like to look and see what other people are doing. Andrew: So you’re actively looking to see what other, man as an interviewer that would be so good for me to understand what people are doing to get traffic to their sites. Alright, so… Russell: We buy everyone’s product, everyone’s. I bought Drew’s like 6 times. Yeah, you’re welcome. Just because the process is fascinating to see. Andrew: And then the book. What’s the name of the book? Russell: Traffic Secrets. Andrew: Why is everything a secret? What is that? Russell: I don’t know. Andrew: No, I feel like you do. I remember I think it was… Russell: It all converts, 100% because it out converts. Andrew: Because the word, “secret” out converts? In everything? Russell: Everything. I used to onstage be like, “The top three myths, the top three strategies, the top three lies, the top three everything” and like “secrets” always out converted everything else, and then it just kind of stuck. Andrew: And then that’s the name of this book. I’m looking here to see…yeah, Melanie, she told me when you organized this event you said, “Secret project”. That’s it. Russell: If I just tell people what’s happening then they like, “Oh cool.” I need to have to build up the anticipation. Andrew: Even within your team? Russell: Especially within the team. Yes. Andrew: Especially. So secret is one big thing. What else do you do? Russell: Secrets, hacks… Andrew: No, within the team. So now you get them interested by saying it’s a secret. Russell: So I’ll tell them a story, I’ll tell them the beginning of a story. I’ll be like, “Oh my gosh you guys, I was listening, I was cleaning the wrestling room and I was going through this thing, and I was listening to Andrew and he was doing this campfire chat and it was amazing. And he’s telling this whole story, and I have this idea, it’s going to be amazing. But I’ll tell you guys about it tomorrow.” So what happens now, is they’ve got a whole night to like marinate on this and be like, “What in the world?” and get all excited. And then when they show up, they’re anticipating me telling them, and then when I tell them, then I get the response I want. If I tell them they’re like, “Oh cool.” I’m like, no, you missed it. I need that, in fact, I’ll share ideas all the time, I’ll pitch it out there just to see. I know it’s a good idea because Brent will be like, “I got chills.” Dave will start freaking out, and that’s when I know, “Okay, that was a good idea.” If they’re like, “Oh that’s cool.” I’m like, crap. Not doing that one. It’s the same thing. Andrew: I’ve heard one of the reasons that you guys hang out together is one, he’s an extrovert and you’re an introvert, but the other one is Dave will one up you. Russell: It starts the process. This is the bubble soccer event we did. Initially it was like we’re going to have influences, or we were launching the viral video and like we need, let’s bring some people into it. And then we were asking how someone could bring big influencers, like “you have to do something crazy. Like get a Ferrari and let them drive over it in a monster truck.” I was like, “That seems extreme.” I was like, “What if we played football on the Boise State Stadium?” And Dave’s like, “What if we did bubble soccer? What if we tried to set a Guinness book of world records…” and then next thing we know, we’re all Guinness book of world record champion bubble soccer players. It was amazing. Andrew: And that’s the thing that I’ve heard about your office environment. That it’s this kind of atmosphere where, see for me, look at me, I’ve got that New York tension. When I talk to my people and I talk to everyone it’s like, “You’ve gotta do something already.” And you guys like fun, there’s a ball pit or whatever in the office. Am I right? You go “we need a, we’re gonna create a new office. Let’s have a bowling alley in it and a place to shoot.” That’s the truth. Russell: It is the truth. It’s going to be amazing. Andrew: Does he also tell you, “We need to do something this weekend. Date night, it’s a secret.”? Russell: Maybe I need to do more than that, huh. Andrew: Yes, does he use persuasion techniques on you? Russell: It doesn’t work on her. Andrew: No. Russell: She’s the only person I can’t persuade. It’s amazing. My powers are useless against my wife. It’s unfortunate. Andrew: Do you actually use them, or when it comes to the house you go, “come on, I’m tired already, just…”? Russell: I tried to do something today and she was like, “That was the worst sales pitch ever.” I’m like, “Dang it. Alright, I’ll try again.” Andrew: Hey Siri, text my wife “I’ve got plans for tomorrow night. So good, Russell just told me about it. I’ll tell you later. Secret.” Period, send. Russell: That’s amazing. Andrew: Wowee. Does anybody know how I can get a babysitter here. {Audience speaking indistinctly} Andrew: They’re a little too eager to spend time with my kids. Thank you. Alright, I said I would take a few more questions. I know we’re almost out of time here. Who was it, it was someone on the right here that was especially, you looked, uh yeah you, who just pointed behind you. Audience Member: Hi, okay, Russell I’ve been in your world since about 2016.. Andrew: Hang on a second, who the, I’m sorry to curse, but who the f**k comes to a software event and goes, “I’ve been in your world.”? This is amazing about you. I’m in San Francisco, there’s nobody that goes, “I’m so glad I’ve been in the hubspot world.” It doesn’t work that way. I’m sorry, I had to interrupt. Okay. I’ve been in your world. He’s selling you software, you’re in his world. Sorry. Audience member: You have to listen to his podcast, it’s a.. Andrew: I’ve listened to his podcast. It’s just him talking. Audience Member: He talks about it, it’s a universe. He creates a universe. Andrew: You know what, here’s the thing that blew my mind. I thought it was him in a professional studio, I saw him in San Francisco, he’s talking into the voice recorder on his phone. Okay, yeah. I gotta feeling that Russell’s going to go, at some point, “Religion is just an info product. I think I could do a better job here.” Alright, yeah. Audience Member: okay, I entered the Clickfunnels universe in 2016 and since that time, I came in with a lot of hopes and a lot of, it was just a really exciting experience to have you break down the marketing, you really simplified it right. So I see that, I’m an ambassador for the one comma club challenge right now, and people are coming in with such high hopes and such tremendous faith and trust in you. And I have a friends that I brought into it and everything and they’re coming in, just like, they’re really staking a lot on how they’ve persuaded to join your universe. Sorry, universe is the wrong word. But from that, I guess the question is, there’s a few things. I think a lot of people are afraid of that type of responsibility in the products that they’re delivering, and of course there is a tremendous failure rate of people who don’t get what they’re persuaded in. So there’s a lot of magnification on the two comma club, and the people there that are the successes, but the question that I have is, the responsibility that you feel for that, I feel that you feel the responsibility because you’re constantly looking for new ways to simplify, bring in new coaches, bring in the new team, make products and offers that are completely irresistible. Truthfully, I went to Funnel Hacking Live, I’m not spending any money, 20 thousand dollars later. I mean it was truthfully so irresistible, but you’ve crafted such unique things in an effort to truly serve that client and really get them to the place that they’re looking to go. So I’m not sure if the question is coming out, but there’s a lot of responsibility that all these bright eyed, bushy tailed you know, wannabe marketers are coming in really truthfully feeling the genuine just truth that you’re telling them, but then there’s a big crash and burn rate too, which is normal in that space. I’m not sure what the question is. Andrew: Congratulations  to the people in the two comma club, what about the people in the no comma club. What do you feel is a sense of obligation to the people who aren’t yet there? What do you feel about that? Russell: Is that the question? Andrew: Is that right? Audience member: I guess the question is, there’s two parts, one is the responsibility that other people are feeling, the fear that they’re feeling to put something out there because they’re afraid of a failure rate. So just like, Whitney over there was talking about, she’s got those fears. So there’s normal fears that come along with that, so how you deal with that, in that it’s not because of lack of delivery on your end, but there’s still people who are spending tremendous amounts of money, or small amounts of money that just aren’t getting what it is. So it’s really about your internal feelings about that topic. Russell: It’s a good question. There’s a lot of different ways I could answer it. I’m trying to think, for me it’s a big reason I do have a con stripe, because I do feel like I have a huge obligation to people who sign up for our stuff. So I’m always thinking, how do we simplify this, how do we simplify it? What’s the best way to do it? What’s the thing? But that’s also what creates innovation right. It creates the ideas, it’s that, how do we serve these people better? How do we serve them better? Probably the best analogy, in fact, Brandon over here was working on a video that he sent me last night, that I had a chance to watch, it was really cool. We had Sean Stephenson speak at the second Funnel Hacking Live. Was anyone there for that one? A couple of you guys. Sean Stephenson, if you know him, is the 3 foot giant. He’s this little dude in a wheel chair, one of the coolest humans on earth. And he told this story, it was funny because man, I had another emotional connection watching it last night actually, watching it. And he talked about stories like, “How many of you guys here are upset because you got 17 followers on Facebook and you’ve got 13 likes on your YouTube video, and you’re pissed because of all this stuff.” And I think of a lot things that way. “I’m trying this thing, I’m not a millionaire yet, I’m not making any money, blah, blah, blah.” And they’re upset about that right. And what Sean said, he’s like, “Do you know how they choose who they’re going to save when a helicopter is flying into an ocean and there’s a boat that’s wrecked with all these people. Guess how they choose who they’re going to save?” and he said, “What happens is the helicopter drivers, they fly over there and go down to the people, going to save them, and guess who they save, they save the people who are swimming towards you.” He says, “That’s how you do it. If you try to save everyone, it will drown you, it’ll drown the boat, and everybody dies. But you save the people who are swimming toward you.” And then he came back and said, “Those 17 likes on your video, those are the 17 people who are swimming towards you. You have to understand that.” So for me it’s like, we talk about the money because that gets people inspired, but when it all comes down, the really internal belief, no one really cares about the money. They want the feeling of the connection and the help and they want to change the world. They have their thing, and so it’s like, we talk about the money because it gets people excited, but I don’t know anybody who that’s the real reason why they’re in business. They’re in because they want, they want to help those people that are coming towards them. So you notice when you get deeper into the culture, it’s not just money, money, money, money. It’s how do you serve, how do you impact, how do you change the world, how can you get your message clearer, how can you do those things? And when you shift from the money to that, then the money starts magically coming. So for me, it’s just like how do we get more people thinking that way more often. I don’t know if that’s the right answer or if that helps at all, but it is definitely something I feel a big obligation for but I also feel like I’m super grateful for the people who are willing, I’m grateful to Don Lepre, spent all that money doing the infomercial on that thing. And I didn’t implement it back then, when I was 14, right. I’m grateful to the next guy who re-inspired me and I bought the thing and didn’t do anything and then next person and all those things, because eventually it stuck. So for me, it’s like I’m going to keep creating offers and keep doing cool things, and trying to inspire people because it might not be the first or the second or the fifth, but eventually if I keep being consistent on my side, it’s going to keep getting it and eventually the right people, those who actually have something they want to share, something they actually care about what they’re doing will figure out the way. And we’re just going to keep trailblazing and trying to do our best to make a path that they can all follow. So that’s kind of how I look at it. Andrew: Great question. Let’s close it out with one more. Yes. Dave did you find someone, because I just found someone right here. Why don’t we do two more then? Since you found one and I found one. What’s your name? Sorry, Parker? Parker. Go next. There we go, let’s go to Parker next and we’ll close it out with him. Parker: Alright, so the biggest question I have for you Russell is, I’ve seen you guys’ amazing group you guys have at Clickfunnels, and every time I go in your guys’ office it’s nothing but excitement, energy, and not only you don’t have to inspire your workers to work for you. They come there excited and hearing your amazing stories that John and Brent had of, they stayed with you for all this time and you pushed them and they pushed you and there’s this amazing cycle. I’m curious as far as, because I want to have an amazing group like that one too so I can affect the world the same way that you have, and even do better than you did. And that’s a completely admiration thing, that’s I don’t know. Dave: Cut from the same cloth here. Russell: That’s his dad. Dave’s son. Andrew: Oh got it. That makes sense. Parker: The question I have for you is, how do you find those people? Is it nothing but like a whittling out process or do you see these characteristics already in the people that you have? Andrew: One sec, how old are you? Parker: I’m 20 years old. Andrew: 20 years old and you admire your dad and the guy that he works with so much that you want to not just be like him, but be more like him? Can you take of my kid tonight? Sorry, that’s amazing. Does your dad come home with this energy like this energy like, “We’re going to capture the world. This is what we’re going to do.” Parker: it is the funniest thing. Oh my gosh. Every way you see him online, social media, whatever the heck it is, it’s exactly the same way he is at home. When you see him on the tv talking about like, “Oh this is…” or when you interviewed him. Andrew: I’ve watched his podcast, I see that thing. {Crosstalk} Parker: you know as much as I do then. Andrew: What did he motivate you to, like to sell as a kid, or to upsell as a kid. Parker: So he would like talk to us like he was a sales person basically, in the aspect of he talks about things as far as, this person did a terrible job at selling. They could have done this, this, this and this.” And we’re like 10 years old, I think at the time, I think. I don’t know. It’s more of a recent change since he joined clickfunnels and he’s got this amazing excitement and energy. It’s an amazing thing and I wish to have to people like my dad when I become a, when I start to do my own thing. Andrew: It is contagious isn’t it? Parker: yeah, it totally is. Andrew: And I’ve been watching, what’s this new Vlog that you’ve got. It’s on Russell, it’s on Russell Brunson’s YouTube channel right? I’m at the end of it going, “Hell yeah, why am I taking a shower now. I gotta go, I got stuff to do.” Right. These guys are out there taking over San Francisco, that’s my city. So I guess you’re feeling the same way at home. Now, he’s there twice, he suddenly owns a place. So your question was…? Parker: My question was basically, how do you find these amazing people to work, not only for you, but with you and to help you accomplish your dream? Is it whittling out process or it you have innate ability to find people? Russell: So as you were saying that I started thinking, I’m thinking about the partners on our team, who none of them came through like a help wanted site. None of them came through like, Brent went to church with me and he showed up every single week, every single month, he was my home teacher and showed up every single month consistently and we became friends and we did stuff together. John married my cousin. We were on the boat in the middle of the lake and he pitched me on a network marketer opportunity and I was like, I love this guy. And then I pitched him back and we just, and it was amazing. And then Dave, we were at an event like this and we had a signup sheet if you wanted to take the speakers out to dinner and Dave ran back and signed up every single line under mine. So I went to every single meal with him for 3 days. I think it’s just, I think a big part of it, I think most entrepreneurs can’t build a team because they’re waiting to build the team. And I think for me, I didn’t know what I was doing so I just started running, and what happens when you’re moving forward and motion is happening, people get attracted to that. And some people will come for bad reasons and they’ll leave, and I’ve been taken advantage of multiple times, things like that will happen, but the right people will stick around. But it’s all about, it’s the motion right. That’s what people are attracted to. If something’s happening. I don’t know what’s happening, but I want to be on that train and they start coming. So I think it’s taking the initiative of “Okay, I’m going to start running and I have no idea if anyone’s going to follow me ever. But If I do this and I keep doing it consistently then people will.” And you know, it’s been a consistency thing. I’m 15 years into this business now, 8000 funnels deep. But it’s a consistency, and when you do that and you’re consistent, then the right people will just start coming into your life. But not waiting for them initially. If I would have waited to build my team initially, we wouldn’t have a team. Everyone we met was like in the, as we were having motion, the right people started showing up. Andrew: Alright. Thanks. Speaking of, thank you. How many people here are actually at Clickfunnels, if you work at Clickfunnels. Can you guys stand up if you work at Clickfunnels. There you go. I feel like at the end of this everyone’s going to want to go and meet Russell. Everyone’s going to want to go and mob him. And he’s not that social, number one. Number two, I feel like you’re going to pass up these fan-freaking-tastic conversations, I’ve gotten to know the people who work here a lot really well in preparation for this, I really urge you to see the guys, the people who are wearing these t-shirts. Get to know them. Push them into a corner, understand what’s working for them. And really, you’re fantastic people, thanks so much for helping me do this. And thank you for having me on here. I really appreciate you being open, being willing to let me take this anywhere. You said, “I understand what Andrew is trying to do. He’s trying to figure this out. I’m going to let him run with it and let him make the magic happen.” And I think we made a lot of magic happen. Thanks so much for having me here. Russell: Yeah man, it was amazing. Andrew: Thank you all for coming, I’m looking forward to meeting every one of you. Thanks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 18 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0000 ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 4 of 4 (Revisited!) full 441 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today’s episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell’s interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this... On today’s episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell’s interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the 4th and final installment here of the interview with Andrew Warner at the Dry Bar Comedy Club, where he’s going deep into the Clickfunnels startup story. I hope you’ve enjoyed it so far. You know, throughout this entire interview, it was really fun. He brought my wife onstage and some of my partners onstage, and brought other people who didn’t like me at first onstage and kind of shared all these things. I hope all you guys are enjoying it and really enjoying this interview. I hope that this starts making you think about your startup story. Some of you guys are living your startup story right now, and maybe you’re depressed or nervous, or scared, or afraid or whatever. And hopefully this gives you motivation to know that I was there too. In fact, I’m still there many times, but it’s okay and it’s part of the game and part of the process. And someday you’ll look back and you’ll have someone like Andrew interviewing you about your startup story and you’ll be so grateful for the trials and things you’re going through now. So with that said, we’re going to queue up the theme song, when we come back we’ll listen to part 4 of 4 of the Clickfunnels startup story interview with Andrew Warner at the Dry Bar Comedy Club. Andrew: And I know a lot of you have asked me what’s coming up next and Russell’s going to talk about that, how you’re going to get to Sales Force level, but why don’t I take a couple of questions from someone. Is there anyone who’s been sitting here going, “I can’t believe Andrew didn’t ask that.”? Is there anyone who has something standing out for them? Should we just have them onstage. Unknown person: We got mic’s. Andrew: We got mic’s from over there, okay. Audience member: Alright, a little bit deeper of a question. What is something, I know you’re strong in your faith, family, God, I mean kind of all around, what’s something that’s really made you who you are? You’ve mentioned before that made you as a marketer with your dad, you’re up late watching an infomercial. But what’s something that inherently that could have been experienced, maybe a quote in the back of your mind that’s just driven you, it could have been something that your parents taught you when you were young. What is, is there, it’s kind of a little bit difficult of a question to look back, there’s probably a million things. But what are one or two that really stick out, that make you the person that you are? Russell: I have a million thoughts just racing through my head. The one that just popped in the front, so I’ll share that one, hopefully it’s good. I remember when I was a kid my dad gave me a job to go clean the car. I went out there and I cleaned the car, I did my best job, I thought. And I came back in and I was like, “Hey dad, it’s clean. Can I go play?” I was like, “Come look at it.” So he could let me go out and play. And he was like, “Well, is it good? Are you proud of it?” and I’m like, “I don’t know.” And he’s like, “Well, are you proud of it.” I was like, “I don’t know.” And he’s like, “Go work on it until you’re proud of it, then come back and let me know.” And I was like, oh man. So I go back out, and I was like, “Am I proud of this?” and I was thinking about it, I guess technically I’m really not that proud of it. So I was like trying to do more things, trying to clean it better, and to the point where I was actually proud of it. And then I came back and I’m like, “Dad, okay the car’s clean now.” And he’s like, “Are you proud of it.” I’m like, “I am.” And he’s like, “Okay, you can go out and play then.” I think for me that was such a big thing because it was just like, that internal “Am I proud of this thing that I’m giving, that I’m putting out there?” and if not, keep doing it until you are. And I don’t know, that was one of those little weird dad moments that he probably didn’t mean as a teaching opportunity, but definitely has been big for me ever since then. Andrew: Good question. Is there one on this side? While you’re finding a person who has a question, Whitney, did you have more to say? You were going to ask more, right? Yeah, can you get the mic over to Whitney, please? She’s right over here. I know I didn’t ask your full question. Whitney: Hi Russell, how are you? Russell: Awesome, how are you doing? Whitney: Good. So with your business, what is, back to like when you were first starting, I kind of want to know, what’s the one thing when your business was really hard, when you were really struggling, what’s the one thing that kept you going? Just in the back of your mind. And then I have a second part of that. What would you say was your biggest failure and what was the greatest lesson you learned from it? Russell: That’s not an easy question. Andrew: The biggest failure. Russell: Oh man. So the first question was, what was the first one again? Thinking about the biggest failure, I’m trying to…Oh, what kept it going? Andrew: Give me a sec. Are you going through that now? You are, what are you going through right now? Can you stand up and get close to the mic? I can see that this is a meaningful question for a reason. What’s going on? Be open. Whitney: I’m just trying with my business, I’m trying to get my message out there. I’m really, I’m just baby parts of Clickfunnels, so I’m just figuring out how to do a funnel still. But my company is called Creating Powerful Women, so I am just trying to teach women how to grow a business while they grow their family at the same time. And I’m doing that right now, because I have 3 little tiny girls. So I’m just like, okay, I’m still trying to figure out this myself and then teach women how to do it at the same time. So it’s just, I’m still in that struggle phase. Andrew: Is it partially because you feel like an imposter, how can I tell them what to do? That’s what I was saying to you earlier. Whitney: When I don’t even know. Yeah. {Crosstalk} Whitney: I feel like I need to have that success level before I can teach women to go out and do it. But the reason when I found you in the hall, and I said, “I want Russell to be vulnerable and tell like the nitty gritty parts of the story.” And those stories are what make people relatable to you, that’s kind of where I’m at, as I realize that I grow a bigger following and a bigger audience when I’m more relatable to them, which I realize I don’t need to be up at that level to do that. Andrew: I get that. Russell: So my question for you is, have you been working with women? Helping them so far? Tell me a story of someone you’ve helped. I’m curious. Whitney: So I went through post partum depression a couple of years ago, after I had a baby and a lot of the women I’ve been reaching out to when I shared those stories, those women have been coming to me saying, “Hey, how do you get through this struggle? I know you’ve gotten past that, so I want to hear the hard stories that you went through.” So a lot of the people who I’ve been coaching one on one have been people who have gone through those exact same things  that I have. Russell: Okay when you do that, and you share the stuff with them, and that clicks for them, how does that feel? Whitney: Like I’m fulfilling what I was put on this planet to do. Russell: That’s the thing. That’s the thing that keeps me going. It doesn’t happen often, but it happens often enough that I crave that. I’m super introverted, so it’s always awkward for people to come to me, but I still love when they come to me and they’re like, “Hey, just so you know real quick…..” Like last night, we were in San Francisco, or San Diego, excuse me. Someone came up to me in the hall and I was kind of like, I’m nervous to talk to you but you’re going to talk to me. And he said, “Hey, just real quick, you legitimately changed my life, you changed my family.” And started tearing up. And I was just like, I let myself feel that just for a second and then I go back to the awkwardness, but for a second I feel that. And It’s just like ahh. That’s what it’s about you know. I use Voxer for my coaching clients. So every time they Vox me and say something like that, there’s a little star button and I star it and it stores them in this huge thing of all the starred ones. So now days I’ll go back and I’ll listen to that and I’ll listen to people like 2 years ago that said something about how something I did effected them, and it’s just like, that feeling. Because everything we do in this life is for feeling’s right. Everything is just a feeling we’re looking for. We eat because we want a feeling. We did this because we, I wanted a feeling. We’re doing everything for a feeling. So it’s like if I can remember the feelings of the thing I’m trying to get, and I can experience it again, then it, that’s what gets me and keeps me going.  And I think that any of us that are lucky enough to have those feelings, a lot of times we forget about them. No, remember that because that’s the thing, when it’s hard and it’s painful and it’s dark, it’s that feeling that’s just like, that’s the, you remember that and you let yourself experience it again for a minute. And then for me, that’s like, okay, I can get back up and I can go again. Andrew: Great question, I’m glad you asked it. How about one more over there? You know what, yeah, let’s give her a big round of applause, please. Audience member: I was actually going to ask a little bit about that vulnerability. I was surprised, I’m big in the SAAS space, I’ve been to Dream Force, follow a lot of Clickfunnels. It’s pretty rare to see a CEO want to put themselves kind of on the roasting side of things. You’re from here, from Sandy. I was just kind of surprised, what was it that really compelled you to kind of want to come back and do this in Utah? When I saw your email I thought it was a clickbait scam. Russell: Oh it is, we’re selling you something next. Audience member: I really thought I was going to come and it was going to be a video of your face spinning and it was going to be like, “Hi, we’re here.” Because I follow Clickfunnels, but it’s just really rare, especially being down in Utah county, that was kind of unique that way. Andrew: Wait, one sec. Does Clickfunnels allow me to actually place someone’s city in the headline, like I want someone from San Francisco, you could. Oh, alright, I get it. Audience Member: It said like Idaho, we’re in the surrounding areas, it’s going out to 8000 people, limited seating. So as a marketer I was just like, is this a real thing? You know. So I showed up and I was excited to see you. But why come back to Utah, what does this event mean to you and why want to be vulnerable and kind of open up? I learned a lot about you personally that was great to hear from a business side. Russell: So my beliefs are, and I believe we have the best software company in the world, so I’m going to start with that. But if it’s just about the software, then it comes down to who’s got what feature. People are moving and shifting and changing because of the features. That’s the thing. So Clickfunnels was like, no it has to be more and it has to be a thing. And it’s interesting, people who sign up for Clickfunnels, who click on an ad, they come and sign up. That’s why John can’t do, it doesn’t work that way. They sign up for a web, clickfunnels is a website builder for crying out loud. You boil it down, we are a website builder. That is boring. So people don’t come for that. They stay for that. That’s why they stay, that’s why they stay. But they come because of a feeling, and they come because of a connection. I want to be able to take the videos from here because if I can more people who come through my funnels to hear this story, they’re going to stick with Clickfunnels because they realize we have a soul. There’s a reason behind this, it’s not just the software company who’s trying to make a bunch of money. We’re actually, we have belief behind it. So that’s why we do all these things. That’s why I still write books. That’s why we do videos. That’s why we do vlogs. That’s why we do this fun stuff, because it builds connection with people, and connection really keeps people staying, even if some other company’s got a different feature than we do, or it’s cheaper and we’re more expensive, or whatever. So that’s the big reason why we still do it. And then I thought it would be fun to come down here because I grew up not far from here and it’s just kind of a fun thing. We’ve been working with the Harmon Brothers and we started another project with them and their family owns the Dry Bar Comedy Club, if you guys have ever watched Vid Angel, that’s one of their families companies. When Vid Angel had their little hiccups, they shifted all the programming to this, the Dry Bar Comedy Club, so we used to watch all the comedians here. And I was like, this is like the coolest location to do something like this. And one of the other side jokes, I don’t know if I shared this with you or if it was just in my head, but Andrew is famous for doing these big scotch nights, and as a Mormon I can’t drink scotch. And I was like, what if we did this, but at a Dry Bar, just this funny play off of that? And it all worked out. Andrew: You know, usually at events I do scotch night afterwards and say, ‘Everyone come back to my room.’ That’s not going to go over very well. But Dave’s been to mine. He drinks water and feels comfortable. We have good water for Dave. How about one more, then I want to get into the future. Audience Member: So you always talk about how, like for Clickfunnels you guys took like 6 tries to finally make it work, right. And how most of the time when you guys start something it doesn’t work the first time, that’s why you have audibles and all those things. So I was wondering as someone that, you know I’m starting and getting that, kind of like that lifts, what is the biggest thing that you see, versus like a flop funnel versus something that kind of takes off and explodes? What’s the audible or the change that you normally do that shift or the message change or whatever it is, that makes it finally take off? Russell: Traditionally the difference between a funnel that works and doesn’t work, I’d say it’s probably 50% offer. Like if the offer’s wrong it’s not gonna, that’s usually the first thing. But then if it’s actually a good offer, that people actually want, second then is usually copy. So like what’s the hook, those kind of things. And then design is probably 3rd. All that stuff that Theron and those guys didn’t like at first. The things that, because it’s not like we just made up this stuff, you saw 8000 funnels we tested and tried in the journey of 15 years of this, that now we know what things people convert on. So it’s just like looking at stuff that you know is working and modeling it because you this structure works, this kind of thing. But usually when something is broken it’s coming back and figuring out, this offer’s not right. People didn’t want it. And that was the problem with Clickfunnels. The offer, we took 4 or 5 times to get the offer right, and then as soon as the offer is right, you can tell when it’s right because people will buy, even if everything else is bad, if your offer is amazing people will give you money for it, you know. So that’s definitely the biggest part, and from there it’s copy, then design, then all the little things that stress some people out, like me. Andrew: So I’ve got, we’ll come back. I see there are a few people that have more questions; we’ll come back to them in a moment, including you. I promise I’ll do more. But you did tell me about all the different things you guys are working on now. Of all of them, what one is going to get you the closest to Sales Force level? Russell: That’s a good question, there’s so many things. So I would say, I’m going to ask you a question is that alright? Have you ever played bigger yet? Played bigger? Playing bigger?  Andrew: No, what do you mean by that? Russell: That’s the name of the book right? Play Bigger? Andrew: Oh Playing Bigger, the book. No. Russell: Yes. So that’s book’s been interesting, if you guys haven’t read it, it’s one of the biggest ones as a team that we’ve been reading. But it’s all about designing the category and becoming the king of that category. So I feel like we are the king of sales funnels, and that’s our category, the thing that’s going to be there. And then if you read through the book, the next phases are like, building out the ecosystem that supports you as the category. And the fascinating thing about sales force, if you look at it when, I probably shouldn’t say this on video because someday Mark Benioff’s going to watch this and be like, “I’ll never give you money.” But sales force isn’t great software, right. It’s this hub that things are tied into, but the reason why they did 13 billion this year, they’re trying to get to 20 billion is because they built this ecosystem. The ecosystem is what supports this thing and grows it up, and builds it. And that’s like the next phase. So I think for us, it’s like we have this, we have funnels which are the key. It’s like the CRM for them, it’s the central point. But it’s then bringing all the ecosystem, it’s building up all the things around it, right. Andrew: Letting other people create things on your platform, becoming a platform. Russell: Yes, becoming a true platform. Andrew: can you create a platform when what you want is the all in one solution when you’re saying, “you don’t have to plug in your chat bot to our software. We’re going to be chat bot software.” “You don’t have to plug in infusion soft, we’ve got email marketing in here or mail chimp.” Russell: It depends, because you look at Sales Force is similar too. They have their own things that they either acquire and bring them in, or they build their own, things like that. And I think it’s a hybrid of that. I think it’s, we allow people to integrate because some people have tools. We will, our goal is to always be the best sales funnel builder on planet earth. We may not be the best email auto responder in the world, we have one and that increases our revenue. And people who love us will use our email auto responder, but there may be some other one that’s better. But it’s not our big focal point. There may be a chat bot that’s got more features and more things, that’s not gonna be our focus to make it the best, but we’ve got one built in to make it. So theer will be, that’s kind of our thought, that we will have the things included, so if people want to go all in they can use it. But if they love yours because of these things, they can still bring that and still bring it in. You know, and then as we grow, who knows what the next phase is. Is it acquisitions, finding the best partners? People that most of our members are using, start acquiring companies and bringing them in, internally similar to what Sales Force does, growing the platform. Andrew: Just keep letting people build on your platform and then does that make the platform more valuable, or do you guys get a share of the money that people spend on these external tools? Russell: Both, I think. Stripe for example, Stripe, I think we process 1.7 billion dollars through Stripe. We make over a million bucks a year from Stripe referral fees, for just letting them connect with us. So there’s value on both sides because it makes the platform more valuable because people can use it easier, but we also make money that direction as well, and those type of things. Andrew: Okay, what is Actionlytics, Action… Russell: Actionetics. Andrew: Excuse me. Russell: So that was Todd’s name. He loved that name. So Actionetics is, it’s what we call internally, follow-up funnels. So we have sales funnels, which are page one, page two, page three, page four. Then a follow-up funnel is send this email, send this text message. “Here’s the retargeting pixels, here’s the thing.” So it’s the follow-up funnels. It’s all of the communication that’s happened after somebody leaves the page with your audience. Andrew: And that’s a new product that you guys are creating? Russell: Yeah, it’s been, actually we make more revenue from Actionetics than we do from Clickfunnels right now. We’ve never marketed it outside though. Andrew: I can’t get access to it, it asked me for my username and password. I said, I don’t have that, so how do I sign up for it? Russell: it’s only been in beta. So we opened up at Funnel Hacking Live, people signed up there. And then we kept it down for a year, then we opened it, so two Funnel Hacking Lives we opened it, and then my birthday we opened it. So that’s it. But we have, it’s over, 12-13 thousand members who have upgraded to that. And then we’re probably a couple weeks away from the actual public launch where people will be to get, everyone will be able to get access. Andrew: And already people are spending more money on that than Clickfunnels? Russell: Yeah, because it starts at $300 a month versus $100. So it’s the ascension up. So they go from $100 a month to $300 a month and then the new one, it scales with you. Because we’re sending emails and Facebook message, it gives us an ability to grow with the platform as well, and not just have a $200 a month limit. Someone might pay $1000 or $5000 depending on how big their lists are. Andrew: You’re really good at these upsells, you’re really good at these extra features. How do you think about what to add? How do the rest of us think about it, based on what’s worked for you? Russell: Okay, that’s a great question, and everyone thinks it’s a product, the question most people ask is, what price point should my upsells be? It has nothing to do with that. It has 100% to with the logical progression of events for your customer. So when someone comes to you and they buy something, let’s just say it’s weight loss. So they come to you and they buy a weight loss book right, and let’s say it’s about how to get abs. So they buy that, the second they put their credit card in and click the button, in their mind that problem has now been solved. I now have six pack abs, the second it’s done. And people don’t think that. So what people do wrong is the next page is like, “Cool, you bought my abs book. Do you want my abs video series?” it’s like, “No, I just solved that problem. I gave you money. It’s been solved.” So what we have to think through, for logical upsells is like, “okay, I just got abs, what’s the next logical thing I need?” So it’s like, “Cool you got abs now, but how would you like biceps? We can work it out. This is my training program to grow here.” For funnels it’s like, here’s this funnels software, or here’s this book teaching you how to build funnels, but after you have a funnel you need traffic. So traffic’s the next logical progression. So as soon as someone’s bought something, the customer’s mind, I believe, that problems been solved. And it’s like, what’s the new problem that’s been opened up, because that problem’s been solved. That’s the logical… Andrew: I got my email addresses because of Clickfunnels, the next problem I’m probably going to have is what do I send to people? And that’s what you’re solving. What about this, fill your funnel, it’s a new software. Russell: Yeah. Andrew: What is it? Russell: How do you know these things? That is good, you have been digging. So I’m writing my third book right now, it’s called Traffic Secrets, and then on the back of it we have software that’s called Fill Your Funnel, that matches how we do traffic with the book. So when someone reads the book, you login and the way we do traffic, we focus very heavily on influencers. We call it the Dream 100. So you come in and you login and you’re like, “Here’s the people in my market. There’s Tony Robbins, there’s Andrew..” you list all these people and it starts pulling all our data, scraping all their ads, their funnels, everything  and shows you everything that’s happening in their companies, so you can reverse engineer it for what you’re doing. Andrew: So if I admire what John is doing for you guys, I could put you in the software, you’ll show me what you guys are doing, and then I’ll be able to scrape it and do it myself. You’re nodding. And you’re okay with that? John: It’s awesome. I’m excited. Russell: Excited. Andrew: Have you been doing that? Is that part of what’s worked for you guys at Clickfunnels? John: Yeah, we like to, we call it funnel hacking. We like to look and see what other people are doing. Andrew: So you’re actively looking to see what other, man as an interviewer that would be so good for me to understand what people are doing to get traffic to their sites. Alright, so… Russell: We buy everyone’s product, everyone’s. I bought Drew’s like 6 times. Yeah, you’re welcome. Just because the process is fascinating to see. Andrew: And then the book. What’s the name of the book? Russell: Traffic Secrets. Andrew: Why is everything a secret? What is that? Russell: I don’t know. Andrew: No, I feel like you do. I remember I think it was… Russell: It all converts, 100% because it out converts. Andrew: Because the word, “secret” out converts? In everything? Russell: Everything. I used to onstage be like, “The top three myths, the top three strategies, the top three lies, the top three everything” and like “secrets” always out converted everything else, and then it just kind of stuck. Andrew: And then that’s the name of this book. I’m looking here to see…yeah, Melanie, she told me when you organized this event you said, “Secret project”. That’s it. Russell: If I just tell people what’s happening then they like, “Oh cool.” I need to have to build up the anticipation. Andrew: Even within your team? Russell: Especially within the team. Yes. Andrew: Especially. So secret is one big thing. What else do you do? Russell: Secrets, hacks… Andrew: No, within the team. So now you get them interested by saying it’s a secret. Russell: So I’ll tell them a story, I’ll tell them the beginning of a story. I’ll be like, “Oh my gosh you guys, I was listening, I was cleaning the wrestling room and I was going through this thing, and I was listening to Andrew and he was doing this campfire chat and it was amazing. And he’s telling this whole story, and I have this idea, it’s going to be amazing. But I’ll tell you guys about it tomorrow.” So what happens now, is they’ve got a whole night to like marinate on this and be like, “What in the world?” and get all excited. And then when they show up, they’re anticipating me telling them, and then when I tell them, then I get the response I want. If I tell them they’re like, “Oh cool.” I’m like, no, you missed it. I need that, in fact, I’ll share ideas all the time, I’ll pitch it out there just to see. I know it’s a good idea because Brent will be like, “I got chills.” Dave will start freaking out, and that’s when I know, “Okay, that was a good idea.” If they’re like, “Oh that’s cool.” I’m like, crap. Not doing that one. It’s the same thing. Andrew: I’ve heard one of the reasons that you guys hang out together is one, he’s an extrovert and you’re an introvert, but the other one is Dave will one up you. Russell: It starts the process. This is the bubble soccer event we did. Initially it was like we’re going to have influences, or we were launching the viral video and like we need, let’s bring some people into it. And then we were asking how someone could bring big influencers, like “you have to do something crazy. Like get a Ferrari and let them drive over it in a monster truck.” I was like, “That seems extreme.” I was like, “What if we played football on the Boise State Stadium?” And Dave’s like, “What if we did bubble soccer? What if we tried to set a Guinness book of world records…” and then next thing we know, we’re all Guinness book of world record champion bubble soccer players. It was amazing. Andrew: And that’s the thing that I’ve heard about your office environment. That it’s this kind of atmosphere where, see for me, look at me, I’ve got that New York tension. When I talk to my people and I talk to everyone it’s like, “You’ve gotta do something already.” And you guys like fun, there’s a ball pit or whatever in the office. Am I right? You go “we need a, we’re gonna create a new office. Let’s have a bowling alley in it and a place to shoot.” That’s the truth. Russell: It is the truth. It’s going to be amazing. Andrew: Does he also tell you, “We need to do something this weekend. Date night, it’s a secret.”? Russell: Maybe I need to do more than that, huh. Andrew: Yes, does he use persuasion techniques on you? Russell: It doesn’t work on her. Andrew: No. Russell: She’s the only person I can’t persuade. It’s amazing. My powers are useless against my wife. It’s unfortunate. Andrew: Do you actually use them, or when it comes to the house you go, “come on, I’m tired already, just…”? Russell: I tried to do something today and she was like, “That was the worst sales pitch ever.” I’m like, “Dang it. Alright, I’ll try again.” Andrew: Hey Siri, text my wife “I’ve got plans for tomorrow night. So good, Russell just told me about it. I’ll tell you later. Secret.” Period, send. Russell: That’s amazing. Andrew: Wowee. Does anybody know how I can get a babysitter here. {Audience speaking indistinctly} Andrew: They’re a little too eager to spend time with my kids. Thank you. Alright, I said I would take a few more questions. I know we’re almost out of time here. Who was it, it was someone on the right here that was especially, you looked, uh yeah you, who just pointed behind you. Audience Member: Hi, okay, Russell I’ve been in your world since about 2016.. Andrew: Hang on a second, who the, I’m sorry to curse, but who the f**k comes to a software event and goes, “I’ve been in your world.”? This is amazing about you. I’m in San Francisco, there’s nobody that goes, “I’m so glad I’ve been in the hubspot world.” It doesn’t work that way. I’m sorry, I had to interrupt. Okay. I’ve been in your world. He’s selling you software, you’re in his world. Sorry. Audience member: You have to listen to his podcast, it’s a.. Andrew: I’ve listened to his podcast. It’s just him talking. Audience Member: He talks about it, it’s a universe. He creates a universe. Andrew: You know what, here’s the thing that blew my mind. I thought it was him in a professional studio, I saw him in San Francisco, he’s talking into the voice recorder on his phone. Okay, yeah. I gotta feeling that Russell’s going to go, at some point, “Religion is just an info product. I think I could do a better job here.” Alright, yeah. Audience Member: okay, I entered the Clickfunnels universe in 2016 and since that time, I came in with a lot of hopes and a lot of, it was just a really exciting experience to have you break down the marketing, you really simplified it right. So I see that, I’m an ambassador for the one comma club challenge right now, and people are coming in with such high hopes and such tremendous faith and trust in you. And I have a friends that I brought into it and everything and they’re coming in, just like, they’re really staking a lot on how they’ve persuaded to join your universe. Sorry, universe is the wrong word. But from that, I guess the question is, there’s a few things. I think a lot of people are afraid of that type of responsibility in the products that they’re delivering, and of course there is a tremendous failure rate of people who don’t get what they’re persuaded in. So there’s a lot of magnification on the two comma club, and the people there that are the successes, but the question that I have is, the responsibility that you feel for that, I feel that you feel the responsibility because you’re constantly looking for new ways to simplify, bring in new coaches, bring in the new team, make products and offers that are completely irresistible. Truthfully, I went to Funnel Hacking Live, I’m not spending any money, 20 thousand dollars later. I mean it was truthfully so irresistible, but you’ve crafted such unique things in an effort to truly serve that client and really get them to the place that they’re looking to go. So I’m not sure if the question is coming out, but there’s a lot of responsibility that all these bright eyed, bushy tailed you know, wannabe marketers are coming in really truthfully feeling the genuine just truth that you’re telling them, but then there’s a big crash and burn rate too, which is normal in that space. I’m not sure what the question is. Andrew: Congratulations  to the people in the two comma club, what about the people in the no comma club. What do you feel is a sense of obligation to the people who aren’t yet there? What do you feel about that? Russell: Is that the question? Andrew: Is that right? Audience member: I guess the question is, there’s two parts, one is the responsibility that other people are feeling, the fear that they’re feeling to put something out there because they’re afraid of a failure rate. So just like, Whitney over there was talking about, she’s got those fears. So there’s normal fears that come along with that, so how you deal with that, in that it’s not because of lack of delivery on your end, but there’s still people who are spending tremendous amounts of money, or small amounts of money that just aren’t getting what it is. So it’s really about your internal feelings about that topic. Russell: It’s a good question. There’s a lot of different ways I could answer it. I’m trying to think, for me it’s a big reason I do have a con stripe, because I do feel like I have a huge obligation to people who sign up for our stuff. So I’m always thinking, how do we simplify this, how do we simplify it? What’s the best way to do it? What’s the thing? But that’s also what creates innovation right. It creates the ideas, it’s that, how do we serve these people better? How do we serve them better? Probably the best analogy, in fact, Brandon over here was working on a video that he sent me last night, that I had a chance to watch, it was really cool. We had Sean Stephenson speak at the second Funnel Hacking Live. Was anyone there for that one? A couple of you guys. Sean Stephenson, if you know him, is the 3 foot giant. He’s this little dude in a wheel chair, one of the coolest humans on earth. And he told this story, it was funny because man, I had another emotional connection watching it last night actually, watching it. And he talked about stories like, “How many of you guys here are upset because you got 17 followers on Facebook and you’ve got 13 likes on your YouTube video, and you’re pissed because of all this stuff.” And I think of a lot things that way. “I’m trying this thing, I’m not a millionaire yet, I’m not making any money, blah, blah, blah.” And they’re upset about that right. And what Sean said, he’s like, “Do you know how they choose who they’re going to save when a helicopter is flying into an ocean and there’s a boat that’s wrecked with all these people. Guess how they choose who they’re going to save?” and he said, “What happens is the helicopter drivers, they fly over there and go down to the people, going to save them, and guess who they save, they save the people who are swimming towards you.” He says, “That’s how you do it. If you try to save everyone, it will drown you, it’ll drown the boat, and everybody dies. But you save the people who are swimming toward you.” And then he came back and said, “Those 17 likes on your video, those are the 17 people who are swimming towards you. You have to understand that.” So for me it’s like, we talk about the money because that gets people inspired, but when it all comes down, the really internal belief, no one really cares about the money. They want the feeling of the connection and the help and they want to change the world. They have their thing, and so it’s like, we talk about the money because it gets people excited, but I don’t know anybody who that’s the real reason why they’re in business. They’re in because they want, they want to help those people that are coming towards them. So you notice when you get deeper into the culture, it’s not just money, money, money, money. It’s how do you serve, how do you impact, how do you change the world, how can you get your message clearer, how can you do those things? And when you shift from the money to that, then the money starts magically coming. So for me, it’s just like how do we get more people thinking that way more often. I don’t know if that’s the right answer or if that helps at all, but it is definitely something I feel a big obligation for but I also feel like I’m super grateful for the people who are willing, I’m grateful to Don Lepre, spent all that money doing the infomercial on that thing. And I didn’t implement it back then, when I was 14, right. I’m grateful to the next guy who re-inspired me and I bought the thing and didn’t do anything and then next person and all those things, because eventually it stuck. So for me, it’s like I’m going to keep creating offers and keep doing cool things, and trying to inspire people because it might not be the first or the second or the fifth, but eventually if I keep being consistent on my side, it’s going to keep getting it and eventually the right people, those who actually have something they want to share, something they actually care about what they’re doing will figure out the way. And we’re just going to keep trailblazing and trying to do our best to make a path that they can all follow. So that’s kind of how I look at it. Andrew: Great question. Let’s close it out with one more. Yes. Dave did you find someone, because I just found someone right here. Why don’t we do two more then? Since you found one and I found one. What’s your name? Sorry, Parker? Parker. Go next. There we go, let’s go to Parker next and we’ll close it out with him. Parker: Alright, so the biggest question I have for you Russell is, I’ve seen you guys’ amazing group you guys have at Clickfunnels, and every time I go in your guys’ office it’s nothing but excitement, energy, and not only you don’t have to inspire your workers to work for you. They come there excited and hearing your amazing stories that John and Brent had of, they stayed with you for all this time and you pushed them and they pushed you and there’s this amazing cycle. I’m curious as far as, because I want to have an amazing group like that one too so I can affect the world the same way that you have, and even do better than you did. And that’s a completely admiration thing, that’s I don’t know. Dave: Cut from the same cloth here. Russell: That’s his dad. Dave’s son. Andrew: Oh got it. That makes sense. Parker: The question I have for you is, how do you find those people? Is it nothing but like a whittling out process or do you see these characteristics already in the people that you have? Andrew: One sec, how old are you? Parker: I’m 20 years old. Andrew: 20 years old and you admire your dad and the guy that he works with so much that you want to not just be like him, but be more like him? Can you take of my kid tonight? Sorry, that’s amazing. Does your dad come home with this energy like this energy like, “We’re going to capture the world. This is what we’re going to do.” Parker: it is the funniest thing. Oh my gosh. Every way you see him online, social media, whatever the heck it is, it’s exactly the same way he is at home. When you see him on the tv talking about like, “Oh this is…” or when you interviewed him. Andrew: I’ve watched his podcast, I see that thing. {Crosstalk} Parker: you know as much as I do then. Andrew: What did he motivate you to, like to sell as a kid, or to upsell as a kid. Parker: So he would like talk to us like he was a sales person basically, in the aspect of he talks about things as far as, this person did a terrible job at selling. They could have done this, this, this and this.” And we’re like 10 years old, I think at the time, I think. I don’t know. It’s more of a recent change since he joined clickfunnels and he’s got this amazing excitement and energy. It’s an amazing thing and I wish to have to people like my dad when I become a, when I start to do my own thing. Andrew: It is contagious isn’t it? Parker: yeah, it totally is. Andrew: And I’ve been watching, what’s this new Vlog that you’ve got. It’s on Russell, it’s on Russell Brunson’s YouTube channel right? I’m at the end of it going, “Hell yeah, why am I taking a shower now. I gotta go, I got stuff to do.” Right. These guys are out there taking over San Francisco, that’s my city. So I guess you’re feeling the same way at home. Now, he’s there twice, he suddenly owns a place. So your question was…? Parker: My question was basically, how do you find these amazing people to work, not only for you, but with you and to help you accomplish your dream? Is it whittling out process or it you have innate ability to find people? Russell: So as you were saying that I started thinking, I’m thinking about the partners on our team, who none of them came through like a help wanted site. None of them came through like, Brent went to church with me and he showed up every single week, every single month, he was my home teacher and showed up every single month consistently and we became friends and we did stuff together. John married my cousin. We were on the boat in the middle of the lake and he pitched me on a network marketer opportunity and I was like, I love this guy. And then I pitched him back and we just, and it was amazing. And then Dave, we were at an event like this and we had a signup sheet if you wanted to take the speakers out to dinner and Dave ran back and signed up every single line under mine. So I went to every single meal with him for 3 days. I think it’s just, I think a big part of it, I think most entrepreneurs can’t build a team because they’re waiting to build the team. And I think for me, I didn’t know what I was doing so I just started running, and what happens when you’re moving forward and motion is happening, people get attracted to that. And some people will come for bad reasons and they’ll leave, and I’ve been taken advantage of multiple times, things like that will happen, but the right people will stick around. But it’s all about, it’s the motion right. That’s what people are attracted to. If something’s happening. I don’t know what’s happening, but I want to be on that train and they start coming. So I think it’s taking the initiative of “Okay, I’m going to start running and I have no idea if anyone’s going to follow me ever. But If I do this and I keep doing it consistently then people will.” And you know, it’s been a consistency thing. I’m 15 years into this business now, 8000 funnels deep. But it’s a consistency, and when you do that and you’re consistent, then the right people will just start coming into your life. But not waiting for them initially. If I would have waited to build my team initially, we wouldn’t have a team. Everyone we met was like in the, as we were having motion, the right people started showing up. Andrew: Alright. Thanks. Speaking of, thank you. How many people here are actually at Clickfunnels, if you work at Clickfunnels. Can you guys stand up if you work at Clickfunnels. There you go. I feel like at the end of this everyone’s going to want to go and meet Russell. Everyone’s going to want to go and mob him. And he’s not that social, number one. Number two, I feel like you’re going to pass up these fan-freaking-tastic conversations, I’ve gotten to know the people who work here a lot really well in preparation for this, I really urge you to see the guys, the people who are wearing these t-shirts. Get to know them. Push them into a corner, understand what’s working for them. And really, you’re fantastic people, thanks so much for helping me do this. And thank you for having me on here. I really appreciate you being open, being willing to let me take this anywhere. You said, “I understand what Andrew is trying to do. He’s trying to figure this out. I’m going to let him run with it and let him make the magic happen.” And I think we made a lot of magic happen. Thanks so much for having me here. Russell: Yeah man, it was amazing. Andrew: Thank you all for coming, I’m looking forward to meeting every one of you. Thanks. Learn more about your ad choices. 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Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the 4th and final installment here of the interview with Andrew Warner at the Dry Bar Comedy Club, where he’s going deep into the Clickfunnels startup story. I hope you’ve enjoyed it so far. You know, throughout this entire interview, it was really fun. He brought my wife onstage and some of my partners onstage, and brought other people who didn’t like me at first onstage and kind of shared all these things. I hope all you guys are enjoying it and really enjoying this interview.

I hope that this starts making you think about your startup story. Some of you guys are living your startup story right now, and maybe you’re depressed or nervous, or scared, or afraid or whatever. And hopefully this gives you motivation to know that I was there too. In fact, I’m still there many times, but it’s okay and it’s part of the game and part of the process. And someday you’ll look back and you’ll have someone like Andrew interviewing you about your startup story and you’ll be so grateful for the trials and things you’re going through now.

So with that said, we’re going to queue up the theme song, when we come back we’ll listen to part 4 of 4 of the Clickfunnels startup story interview with Andrew Warner at the Dry Bar Comedy Club.

Andrew: And I know a lot of you have asked me what’s coming up next and Russell’s going to talk about that, how you’re going to get to Sales Force level, but why don’t I take a couple of questions from someone. Is there anyone who’s been sitting here going, “I can’t believe Andrew didn’t ask that.”? Is there anyone who has something standing out for them? Should we just have them onstage.

Unknown person: We got mic’s.

Andrew: We got mic’s from over there, okay.

Audience member: Alright, a little bit deeper of a question. What is something, I know you’re strong in your faith, family, God, I mean kind of all around, what’s something that’s really made you who you are? You’ve mentioned before that made you as a marketer with your dad, you’re up late watching an infomercial. But what’s something that inherently that could have been experienced, maybe a quote in the back of your mind that’s just driven you, it could have been something that your parents taught you when you were young. What is, is there, it’s kind of a little bit difficult of a question to look back, there’s probably a million things. But what are one or two that really stick out, that make you the person that you are?

Russell: I have a million thoughts just racing through my head. The one that just popped in the front, so I’ll share that one, hopefully it’s good. I remember when I was a kid my dad gave me a job to go clean the car. I went out there and I cleaned the car, I did my best job, I thought. And I came back in and I was like, “Hey dad, it’s clean. Can I go play?” I was like, “Come look at it.” So he could let me go out and play. And he was like, “Well, is it good? Are you proud of it?” and I’m like, “I don’t know.” And he’s like, “Well, are you proud of it.” I was like, “I don’t know.” And he’s like, “Go work on it until you’re proud of it, then come back and let me know.”

And I was like, oh man. So I go back out, and I was like, “Am I proud of this?” and I was thinking about it, I guess technically I’m really not that proud of it. So I was like trying to do more things, trying to clean it better, and to the point where I was actually proud of it. And then I came back and I’m like, “Dad, okay the car’s clean now.” And he’s like, “Are you proud of it.” I’m like, “I am.” And he’s like, “Okay, you can go out and play then.”

I think for me that was such a big thing because it was just like, that internal “Am I proud of this thing that I’m giving, that I’m putting out there?” and if not, keep doing it until you are. And I don’t know, that was one of those little weird dad moments that he probably didn’t mean as a teaching opportunity, but definitely has been big for me ever since then.

Andrew: Good question. Is there one on this side? While you’re finding a person who has a question, Whitney, did you have more to say? You were going to ask more, right? Yeah, can you get the mic over to Whitney, please? She’s right over here. I know I didn’t ask your full question.

Whitney: Hi Russell, how are you?

Russell: Awesome, how are you doing?

Whitney: Good. So with your business, what is, back to like when you were first starting, I kind of want to know, what’s the one thing when your business was really hard, when you were really struggling, what’s the one thing that kept you going? Just in the back of your mind. And then I have a second part of that. What would you say was your biggest failure and what was the greatest lesson you learned from it?

Russell: That’s not an easy question.

Andrew: The biggest failure.

Russell: Oh man. So the first question was, what was the first one again? Thinking about the biggest failure, I’m trying to…Oh, what kept it going?

Andrew: Give me a sec. Are you going through that now? You are, what are you going through right now? Can you stand up and get close to the mic? I can see that this is a meaningful question for a reason. What’s going on? Be open.

Whitney: I’m just trying with my business, I’m trying to get my message out there. I’m really, I’m just baby parts of Clickfunnels, so I’m just figuring out how to do a funnel still. But my company is called Creating Powerful Women, so I am just trying to teach women how to grow a business while they grow their family at the same time. And I’m doing that right now, because I have 3 little tiny girls. So I’m just like, okay, I’m still trying to figure out this myself and then teach women how to do it at the same time. So it’s just, I’m still in that struggle phase.

Andrew: Is it partially because you feel like an imposter, how can I tell them what to do? That’s what I was saying to you earlier.

Whitney: When I don’t even know. Yeah.

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Whitney: I feel like I need to have that success level before I can teach women to go out and do it. But the reason when I found you in the hall, and I said, “I want Russell to be vulnerable and tell like the nitty gritty parts of the story.” And those stories are what make people relatable to you, that’s kind of where I’m at, as I realize that I grow a bigger following and a bigger audience when I’m more relatable to them, which I realize I don’t need to be up at that level to do that.

Andrew: I get that.

Russell: So my question for you is, have you been working with women? Helping them so far? Tell me a story of someone you’ve helped. I’m curious.

Whitney: So I went through post partum depression a couple of years ago, after I had a baby and a lot of the women I’ve been reaching out to when I shared those stories, those women have been coming to me saying, “Hey, how do you get through this struggle? I know you’ve gotten past that, so I want to hear the hard stories that you went through.” So a lot of the people who I’ve been coaching one on one have been people who have gone through those exact same things  that I have.

Russell: Okay when you do that, and you share the stuff with them, and that clicks for them, how does that feel?

Whitney: Like I’m fulfilling what I was put on this planet to do.

Russell: That’s the thing. That’s the thing that keeps me going. It doesn’t happen often, but it happens often enough that I crave that. I’m super introverted, so it’s always awkward for people to come to me, but I still love when they come to me and they’re like, “Hey, just so you know real quick…..” Like last night, we were in San Francisco, or San Diego, excuse me. Someone came up to me in the hall and I was kind of like, I’m nervous to talk to you but you’re going to talk to me. And he said, “Hey, just real quick, you legitimately changed my life, you changed my family.” And started tearing up. And I was just like, I let myself feel that just for a second and then I go back to the awkwardness, but for a second I feel that. And It’s just like ahh. That’s what it’s about you know.

I use Voxer for my coaching clients. So every time they Vox me and say something like that, there’s a little star button and I star it and it stores them in this huge thing of all the starred ones. So now days I’ll go back and I’ll listen to that and I’ll listen to people like 2 years ago that said something about how something I did effected them, and it’s just like, that feeling. Because everything we do in this life is for feeling’s right. Everything is just a feeling we’re looking for. We eat because we want a feeling. We did this because we, I wanted a feeling. We’re doing everything for a feeling.

So it’s like if I can remember the feelings of the thing I’m trying to get, and I can experience it again, then it, that’s what gets me and keeps me going.  And I think that any of us that are lucky enough to have those feelings, a lot of times we forget about them. No, remember that because that’s the thing, when it’s hard and it’s painful and it’s dark, it’s that feeling that’s just like, that’s the, you remember that and you let yourself experience it again for a minute. And then for me, that’s like, okay, I can get back up and I can go again.

Andrew: Great question, I’m glad you asked it. How about one more over there? You know what, yeah, let’s give her a big round of applause, please.

Audience member: I was actually going to ask a little bit about that vulnerability. I was surprised, I’m big in the SAAS space, I’ve been to Dream Force, follow a lot of Clickfunnels. It’s pretty rare to see a CEO want to put themselves kind of on the roasting side of things. You’re from here, from Sandy. I was just kind of surprised, what was it that really compelled you to kind of want to come back and do this in Utah? When I saw your email I thought it was a clickbait scam.

Russell: Oh it is, we’re selling you something next.

Audience member: I really thought I was going to come and it was going to be a video of your face spinning and it was going to be like, “Hi, we’re here.” Because I follow Clickfunnels, but it’s just really rare, especially being down in Utah county, that was kind of unique that way.

Andrew: Wait, one sec. Does Clickfunnels allow me to actually place someone’s city in the headline, like I want someone from San Francisco, you could. Oh, alright, I get it.

Audience Member: It said like Idaho, we’re in the surrounding areas, it’s going out to 8000 people, limited seating. So as a marketer I was just like, is this a real thing? You know. So I showed up and I was excited to see you. But why come back to Utah, what does this event mean to you and why want to be vulnerable and kind of open up? I learned a lot about you personally that was great to hear from a business side.

Russell: So my beliefs are, and I believe we have the best software company in the world, so I’m going to start with that. But if it’s just about the software, then it comes down to who’s got what feature. People are moving and shifting and changing because of the features. That’s the thing. So Clickfunnels was like, no it has to be more and it has to be a thing. And it’s interesting, people who sign up for Clickfunnels, who click on an ad, they come and sign up. That’s why John can’t do, it doesn’t work that way.

They sign up for a web, clickfunnels is a website builder for crying out loud. You boil it down, we are a website builder. That is boring. So people don’t come for that. They stay for that. That’s why they stay, that’s why they stay. But they come because of a feeling, and they come because of a connection. I want to be able to take the videos from here because if I can more people who come through my funnels to hear this story, they’re going to stick with Clickfunnels because they realize we have a soul. There’s a reason behind this, it’s not just the software company who’s trying to make a bunch of money. We’re actually, we have belief behind it.

So that’s why we do all these things. That’s why I still write books. That’s why we do videos. That’s why we do vlogs. That’s why we do this fun stuff, because it builds connection with people, and connection really keeps people staying, even if some other company’s got a different feature than we do, or it’s cheaper and we’re more expensive, or whatever. So that’s the big reason why we still do it.

And then I thought it would be fun to come down here because I grew up not far from here and it’s just kind of a fun thing. We’ve been working with the Harmon Brothers and we started another project with them and their family owns the Dry Bar Comedy Club, if you guys have ever watched Vid Angel, that’s one of their families companies. When Vid Angel had their little hiccups, they shifted all the programming to this, the Dry Bar Comedy Club, so we used to watch all the comedians here. And I was like, this is like the coolest location to do something like this. And one of the other side jokes, I don’t know if I shared this with you or if it was just in my head, but Andrew is famous for doing these big scotch nights, and as a Mormon I can’t drink scotch. And I was like, what if we did this, but at a Dry Bar, just this funny play off of that? And it all worked out.

Andrew: You know, usually at events I do scotch night afterwards and say, ‘Everyone come back to my room.’ That’s not going to go over very well. But Dave’s been to mine. He drinks water and feels comfortable. We have good water for Dave. How about one more, then I want to get into the future.

Audience Member: So you always talk about how, like for Clickfunnels you guys took like 6 tries to finally make it work, right. And how most of the time when you guys start something it doesn’t work the first time, that’s why you have audibles and all those things. So I was wondering as someone that, you know I’m starting and getting that, kind of like that lifts, what is the biggest thing that you see, versus like a flop funnel versus something that kind of takes off and explodes? What’s the audible or the change that you normally do that shift or the message change or whatever it is, that makes it finally take off?

Russell: Traditionally the difference between a funnel that works and doesn’t work, I’d say it’s probably 50% offer. Like if the offer’s wrong it’s not gonna, that’s usually the first thing. But then if it’s actually a good offer, that people actually want, second then is usually copy. So like what’s the hook, those kind of things. And then design is probably 3rd. All that stuff that Theron and those guys didn’t like at first. The things that, because it’s not like we just made up this stuff, you saw 8000 funnels we tested and tried in the journey of 15 years of this, that now we know what things people convert on.

So it’s just like looking at stuff that you know is working and modeling it because you this structure works, this kind of thing. But usually when something is broken it’s coming back and figuring out, this offer’s not right. People didn’t want it. And that was the problem with Clickfunnels. The offer, we took 4 or 5 times to get the offer right, and then as soon as the offer is right, you can tell when it’s right because people will buy, even if everything else is bad, if your offer is amazing people will give you money for it, you know. So that’s definitely the biggest part, and from there it’s copy, then design, then all the little things that stress some people out, like me.

Andrew: So I’ve got, we’ll come back. I see there are a few people that have more questions; we’ll come back to them in a moment, including you. I promise I’ll do more. But you did tell me about all the different things you guys are working on now. Of all of them, what one is going to get you the closest to Sales Force level?

Russell: That’s a good question, there’s so many things. So I would say, I’m going to ask you a question is that alright? Have you ever played bigger yet? Played bigger? Playing bigger? 

Andrew: No, what do you mean by that?

Russell: That’s the name of the book right? Play Bigger?

Andrew: Oh Playing Bigger, the book. No.

Russell: Yes. So that’s book’s been interesting, if you guys haven’t read it, it’s one of the biggest ones as a team that we’ve been reading. But it’s all about designing the category and becoming the king of that category. So I feel like we are the king of sales funnels, and that’s our category, the thing that’s going to be there. And then if you read through the book, the next phases are like, building out the ecosystem that supports you as the category.

And the fascinating thing about sales force, if you look at it when, I probably shouldn’t say this on video because someday Mark Benioff’s going to watch this and be like, “I’ll never give you money.” But sales force isn’t great software, right. It’s this hub that things are tied into, but the reason why they did 13 billion this year, they’re trying to get to 20 billion is because they built this ecosystem. The ecosystem is what supports this thing and grows it up, and builds it.

And that’s like the next phase. So I think for us, it’s like we have this, we have funnels which are the key. It’s like the CRM for them, it’s the central point. But it’s then bringing all the ecosystem, it’s building up all the things around it, right.

Andrew: Letting other people create things on your platform, becoming a platform.

Russell: Yes, becoming a true platform.

Andrew: can you create a platform when what you want is the all in one solution when you’re saying, “you don’t have to plug in your chat bot to our software. We’re going to be chat bot software.” “You don’t have to plug in infusion soft, we’ve got email marketing in here or mail chimp.”

Russell: It depends, because you look at Sales Force is similar too. They have their own things that they either acquire and bring them in, or they build their own, things like that. And I think it’s a hybrid of that. I think it’s, we allow people to integrate because some people have tools. We will, our goal is to always be the best sales funnel builder on planet earth. We may not be the best email auto responder in the world, we have one and that increases our revenue. And people who love us will use our email auto responder, but there may be some other one that’s better. But it’s not our big focal point.

There may be a chat bot that’s got more features and more things, that’s not gonna be our focus to make it the best, but we’ve got one built in to make it. So theer will be, that’s kind of our thought, that we will have the things included, so if people want to go all in they can use it. But if they love yours because of these things, they can still bring that and still bring it in. You know, and then as we grow, who knows what the next phase is. Is it acquisitions, finding the best partners? People that most of our members are using, start acquiring companies and bringing them in, internally similar to what Sales Force does, growing the platform.

Andrew: Just keep letting people build on your platform and then does that make the platform more valuable, or do you guys get a share of the money that people spend on these external tools?

Russell: Both, I think. Stripe for example, Stripe, I think we process 1.7 billion dollars through Stripe. We make over a million bucks a year from Stripe referral fees, for just letting them connect with us. So there’s value on both sides because it makes the platform more valuable because people can use it easier, but we also make money that direction as well, and those type of things.

Andrew: Okay, what is Actionlytics, Action…

Russell: Actionetics.

Andrew: Excuse me.

Russell: So that was Todd’s name. He loved that name. So Actionetics is, it’s what we call internally, follow-up funnels. So we have sales funnels, which are page one, page two, page three, page four. Then a follow-up funnel is send this email, send this text message. “Here’s the retargeting pixels, here’s the thing.” So it’s the follow-up funnels. It’s all of the communication that’s happened after somebody leaves the page with your audience.

Andrew: And that’s a new product that you guys are creating?

Russell: Yeah, it’s been, actually we make more revenue from Actionetics than we do from Clickfunnels right now. We’ve never marketed it outside though.

Andrew: I can’t get access to it, it asked me for my username and password. I said, I don’t have that, so how do I sign up for it?

Russell: it’s only been in beta. So we opened up at Funnel Hacking Live, people signed up there. And then we kept it down for a year, then we opened it, so two Funnel Hacking Lives we opened it, and then my birthday we opened it. So that’s it. But we have, it’s over, 12-13 thousand members who have upgraded to that. And then we’re probably a couple weeks away from the actual public launch where people will be to get, everyone will be able to get access.

Andrew: And already people are spending more money on that than Clickfunnels?

Russell: Yeah, because it starts at $300 a month versus $100. So it’s the ascension up. So they go from $100 a month to $300 a month and then the new one, it scales with you. Because we’re sending emails and Facebook message, it gives us an ability to grow with the platform as well, and not just have a $200 a month limit. Someone might pay $1000 or $5000 depending on how big their lists are.

Andrew: You’re really good at these upsells, you’re really good at these extra features. How do you think about what to add? How do the rest of us think about it, based on what’s worked for you?

Russell: Okay, that’s a great question, and everyone thinks it’s a product, the question most people ask is, what price point should my upsells be? It has nothing to do with that. It has 100% to with the logical progression of events for your customer. So when someone comes to you and they buy something, let’s just say it’s weight loss. So they come to you and they buy a weight loss book right, and let’s say it’s about how to get abs. So they buy that, the second they put their credit card in and click the button, in their mind that problem has now been solved. I now have six pack abs, the second it’s done.

And people don’t think that. So what people do wrong is the next page is like, “Cool, you bought my abs book. Do you want my abs video series?” it’s like, “No, I just solved that problem. I gave you money. It’s been solved.” So what we have to think through, for logical upsells is like, “okay, I just got abs, what’s the next logical thing I need?” So it’s like, “Cool you got abs now, but how would you like biceps? We can work it out. This is my training program to grow here.”

For funnels it’s like, here’s this funnels software, or here’s this book teaching you how to build funnels, but after you have a funnel you need traffic. So traffic’s the next logical progression. So as soon as someone’s bought something, the customer’s mind, I believe, that problems been solved. And it’s like, what’s the new problem that’s been opened up, because that problem’s been solved. That’s the logical…

Andrew: I got my email addresses because of Clickfunnels, the next problem I’m probably going to have is what do I send to people? And that’s what you’re solving. What about this, fill your funnel, it’s a new software.

Russell: Yeah.

Andrew: What is it?

Russell: How do you know these things? That is good, you have been digging. So I’m writing my third book right now, it’s called Traffic Secrets, and then on the back of it we have software that’s called Fill Your Funnel, that matches how we do traffic with the book. So when someone reads the book, you login and the way we do traffic, we focus very heavily on influencers. We call it the Dream 100. So you come in and you login and you’re like, “Here’s the people in my market. There’s Tony Robbins, there’s Andrew..” you list all these people and it starts pulling all our data, scraping all their ads, their funnels, everything  and shows you everything that’s happening in their companies, so you can reverse engineer it for what you’re doing.

Andrew: So if I admire what John is doing for you guys, I could put you in the software, you’ll show me what you guys are doing, and then I’ll be able to scrape it and do it myself. You’re nodding. And you’re okay with that?

John: It’s awesome. I’m excited.

Russell: Excited.

Andrew: Have you been doing that? Is that part of what’s worked for you guys at Clickfunnels?

John: Yeah, we like to, we call it funnel hacking. We like to look and see what other people are doing.

Andrew: So you’re actively looking to see what other, man as an interviewer that would be so good for me to understand what people are doing to get traffic to their sites. Alright, so…

Russell: We buy everyone’s product, everyone’s. I bought Drew’s like 6 times. Yeah, you’re welcome. Just because the process is fascinating to see.

Andrew: And then the book. What’s the name of the book?

Russell: Traffic Secrets.

Andrew: Why is everything a secret? What is that?

Russell: I don’t know.

Andrew: No, I feel like you do. I remember I think it was…

Russell: It all converts, 100% because it out converts.

Andrew: Because the word, “secret” out converts? In everything?

Russell: Everything. I used to onstage be like, “The top three myths, the top three strategies, the top three lies, the top three everything” and like “secrets” always out converted everything else, and then it just kind of stuck.

Andrew: And then that’s the name of this book. I’m looking here to see…yeah, Melanie, she told me when you organized this event you said, “Secret project”. That’s it.

Russell: If I just tell people what’s happening then they like, “Oh cool.” I need to have to build up the anticipation.

Andrew: Even within your team?

Russell: Especially within the team. Yes.

Andrew: Especially. So secret is one big thing. What else do you do?

Russell: Secrets, hacks…

Andrew: No, within the team. So now you get them interested by saying it’s a secret.

Russell: So I’ll tell them a story, I’ll tell them the beginning of a story. I’ll be like, “Oh my gosh you guys, I was listening, I was cleaning the wrestling room and I was going through this thing, and I was listening to Andrew and he was doing this campfire chat and it was amazing. And he’s telling this whole story, and I have this idea, it’s going to be amazing. But I’ll tell you guys about it tomorrow.”

So what happens now, is they’ve got a whole night to like marinate on this and be like, “What in the world?” and get all excited. And then when they show up, they’re anticipating me telling them, and then when I tell them, then I get the response I want. If I tell them they’re like, “Oh cool.” I’m like, no, you missed it. I need that, in fact, I’ll share ideas all the time, I’ll pitch it out there just to see. I know it’s a good idea because Brent will be like, “I got chills.” Dave will start freaking out, and that’s when I know, “Okay, that was a good idea.” If they’re like, “Oh that’s cool.” I’m like, crap. Not doing that one. It’s the same thing.

Andrew: I’ve heard one of the reasons that you guys hang out together is one, he’s an extrovert and you’re an introvert, but the other one is Dave will one up you.

Russell: It starts the process. This is the bubble soccer event we did. Initially it was like we’re going to have influences, or we were launching the viral video and like we need, let’s bring some people into it. And then we were asking how someone could bring big influencers, like “you have to do something crazy. Like get a Ferrari and let them drive over it in a monster truck.” I was like, “That seems extreme.” I was like, “What if we played football on the Boise State Stadium?” And Dave’s like, “What if we did bubble soccer? What if we tried to set a Guinness book of world records…” and then next thing we know, we’re all Guinness book of world record champion bubble soccer players. It was amazing.

Andrew: And that’s the thing that I’ve heard about your office environment. That it’s this kind of atmosphere where, see for me, look at me, I’ve got that New York tension. When I talk to my people and I talk to everyone it’s like, “You’ve gotta do something already.” And you guys like fun, there’s a ball pit or whatever in the office. Am I right? You go “we need a, we’re gonna create a new office. Let’s have a bowling alley in it and a place to shoot.” That’s the truth.

Russell: It is the truth. It’s going to be amazing.

Andrew: Does he also tell you, “We need to do something this weekend. Date night, it’s a secret.”?

Russell: Maybe I need to do more than that, huh.

Andrew: Yes, does he use persuasion techniques on you?

Russell: It doesn’t work on her.

Andrew: No.

Russell: She’s the only person I can’t persuade. It’s amazing. My powers are useless against my wife. It’s unfortunate.

Andrew: Do you actually use them, or when it comes to the house you go, “come on, I’m tired already, just…”?

Russell: I tried to do something today and she was like, “That was the worst sales pitch ever.” I’m like, “Dang it. Alright, I’ll try again.”

Andrew: Hey Siri, text my wife “I’ve got plans for tomorrow night. So good, Russell just told me about it. I’ll tell you later. Secret.” Period, send.

Russell: That’s amazing.

Andrew: Wowee. Does anybody know how I can get a babysitter here.

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Andrew: They’re a little too eager to spend time with my kids. Thank you. Alright, I said I would take a few more questions. I know we’re almost out of time here. Who was it, it was someone on the right here that was especially, you looked, uh yeah you, who just pointed behind you.

Audience Member: Hi, okay, Russell I’ve been in your world since about 2016..

Andrew: Hang on a second, who the, I’m sorry to curse, but who the f**k comes to a software event and goes, “I’ve been in your world.”? This is amazing about you. I’m in San Francisco, there’s nobody that goes, “I’m so glad I’ve been in the hubspot world.” It doesn’t work that way. I’m sorry, I had to interrupt. Okay. I’ve been in your world. He’s selling you software, you’re in his world. Sorry.

Audience member: You have to listen to his podcast, it’s a..

Andrew: I’ve listened to his podcast. It’s just him talking.

Audience Member: He talks about it, it’s a universe. He creates a universe.

Andrew: You know what, here’s the thing that blew my mind. I thought it was him in a professional studio, I saw him in San Francisco, he’s talking into the voice recorder on his phone. Okay, yeah. I gotta feeling that Russell’s going to go, at some point, “Religion is just an info product. I think I could do a better job here.” Alright, yeah.

Audience Member: okay, I entered the Clickfunnels universe in 2016 and since that time, I came in with a lot of hopes and a lot of, it was just a really exciting experience to have you break down the marketing, you really simplified it right. So I see that, I’m an ambassador for the one comma club challenge right now, and people are coming in with such high hopes and such tremendous faith and trust in you. And I have a friends that I brought into it and everything and they’re coming in, just like, they’re really staking a lot on how they’ve persuaded to join your universe. Sorry, universe is the wrong word. But from that, I guess the question is, there’s a few things. I think a lot of people are afraid of that type of responsibility in the products that they’re delivering, and of course there is a tremendous failure rate of people who don’t get what they’re persuaded in.

So there’s a lot of magnification on the two comma club, and the people there that are the successes, but the question that I have is, the responsibility that you feel for that, I feel that you feel the responsibility because you’re constantly looking for new ways to simplify, bring in new coaches, bring in the new team, make products and offers that are completely irresistible. Truthfully, I went to Funnel Hacking Live, I’m not spending any money, 20 thousand dollars later. I mean it was truthfully so irresistible, but you’ve crafted such unique things in an effort to truly serve that client and really get them to the place that they’re looking to go.

So I’m not sure if the question is coming out, but there’s a lot of responsibility that all these bright eyed, bushy tailed you know, wannabe marketers are coming in really truthfully feeling the genuine just truth that you’re telling them, but then there’s a big crash and burn rate too, which is normal in that space. I’m not sure what the question is.

Andrew: Congratulations  to the people in the two comma club, what about the people in the no comma club. What do you feel is a sense of obligation to the people who aren’t yet there? What do you feel about that?

Russell: Is that the question?

Andrew: Is that right?

Audience member: I guess the question is, there’s two parts, one is the responsibility that other people are feeling, the fear that they’re feeling to put something out there because they’re afraid of a failure rate. So just like, Whitney over there was talking about, she’s got those fears. So there’s normal fears that come along with that, so how you deal with that, in that it’s not because of lack of delivery on your end, but there’s still people who are spending tremendous amounts of money, or small amounts of money that just aren’t getting what it is. So it’s really about your internal feelings about that topic.

Russell: It’s a good question. There’s a lot of different ways I could answer it. I’m trying to think, for me it’s a big reason I do have a con stripe, because I do feel like I have a huge obligation to people who sign up for our stuff. So I’m always thinking, how do we simplify this, how do we simplify it? What’s the best way to do it? What’s the thing? But that’s also what creates innovation right. It creates the ideas, it’s that, how do we serve these people better? How do we serve them better?

Probably the best analogy, in fact, Brandon over here was working on a video that he sent me last night, that I had a chance to watch, it was really cool. We had Sean Stephenson speak at the second Funnel Hacking Live. Was anyone there for that one? A couple of you guys. Sean Stephenson, if you know him, is the 3 foot giant. He’s this little dude in a wheel chair, one of the coolest humans on earth. And he told this story, it was funny because man, I had another emotional connection watching it last night actually, watching it. And he talked about stories like, “How many of you guys here are upset because you got 17 followers on Facebook and you’ve got 13 likes on your YouTube video, and you’re pissed because of all this stuff.”

And I think of a lot things that way. “I’m trying this thing, I’m not a millionaire yet, I’m not making any money, blah, blah, blah.” And they’re upset about that right. And what Sean said, he’s like, “Do you know how they choose who they’re going to save when a helicopter is flying into an ocean and there’s a boat that’s wrecked with all these people. Guess how they choose who they’re going to save?” and he said, “What happens is the helicopter drivers, they fly over there and go down to the people, going to save them, and guess who they save, they save the people who are swimming towards you.” He says, “That’s how you do it. If you try to save everyone, it will drown you, it’ll drown the boat, and everybody dies. But you save the people who are swimming toward you.”

And then he came back and said, “Those 17 likes on your video, those are the 17 people who are swimming towards you. You have to understand that.” So for me it’s like, we talk about the money because that gets people inspired, but when it all comes down, the really internal belief, no one really cares about the money. They want the feeling of the connection and the help and they want to change the world. They have their thing, and so it’s like, we talk about the money because it gets people excited, but I don’t know anybody who that’s the real reason why they’re in business. They’re in because they want, they want to help those people that are coming towards them.

So you notice when you get deeper into the culture, it’s not just money, money, money, money. It’s how do you serve, how do you impact, how do you change the world, how can you get your message clearer, how can you do those things? And when you shift from the money to that, then the money starts magically coming. So for me, it’s just like how do we get more people thinking that way more often.

I don’t know if that’s the right answer or if that helps at all, but it is definitely something I feel a big obligation for but I also feel like I’m super grateful for the people who are willing, I’m grateful to Don Lepre, spent all that money doing the infomercial on that thing. And I didn’t implement it back then, when I was 14, right. I’m grateful to the next guy who re-inspired me and I bought the thing and didn’t do anything and then next person and all those things, because eventually it stuck.

So for me, it’s like I’m going to keep creating offers and keep doing cool things, and trying to inspire people because it might not be the first or the second or the fifth, but eventually if I keep being consistent on my side, it’s going to keep getting it and eventually the right people, those who actually have something they want to share, something they actually care about what they’re doing will figure out the way. And we’re just going to keep trailblazing and trying to do our best to make a path that they can all follow. So that’s kind of how I look at it.

Andrew: Great question. Let’s close it out with one more. Yes. Dave did you find someone, because I just found someone right here. Why don’t we do two more then? Since you found one and I found one. What’s your name? Sorry, Parker? Parker. Go next. There we go, let’s go to Parker next and we’ll close it out with him.

Parker: Alright, so the biggest question I have for you Russell is, I’ve seen you guys’ amazing group you guys have at Clickfunnels, and every time I go in your guys’ office it’s nothing but excitement, energy, and not only you don’t have to inspire your workers to work for you. They come there excited and hearing your amazing stories that John and Brent had of, they stayed with you for all this time and you pushed them and they pushed you and there’s this amazing cycle. I’m curious as far as, because I want to have an amazing group like that one too so I can affect the world the same way that you have, and even do better than you did. And that’s a completely admiration thing, that’s I don’t know.

Dave: Cut from the same cloth here.

Russell: That’s his dad. Dave’s son.

Andrew: Oh got it. That makes sense.

Parker: The question I have for you is, how do you find those people? Is it nothing but like a whittling out process or do you see these characteristics already in the people that you have?

Andrew: One sec, how old are you?

Parker: I’m 20 years old.

Andrew: 20 years old and you admire your dad and the guy that he works with so much that you want to not just be like him, but be more like him? Can you take of my kid tonight? Sorry, that’s amazing. Does your dad come home with this energy like this energy like, “We’re going to capture the world. This is what we’re going to do.”

Parker: it is the funniest thing. Oh my gosh. Every way you see him online, social media, whatever the heck it is, it’s exactly the same way he is at home. When you see him on the tv talking about like, “Oh this is…” or when you interviewed him.

Andrew: I’ve watched his podcast, I see that thing.

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Parker: you know as much as I do then.

Andrew: What did he motivate you to, like to sell as a kid, or to upsell as a kid.

Parker: So he would like talk to us like he was a sales person basically, in the aspect of he talks about things as far as, this person did a terrible job at selling. They could have done this, this, this and this.” And we’re like 10 years old, I think at the time, I think. I don’t know. It’s more of a recent change since he joined clickfunnels and he’s got this amazing excitement and energy. It’s an amazing thing and I wish to have to people like my dad when I become a, when I start to do my own thing.

Andrew: It is contagious isn’t it?

Parker: yeah, it totally is.

Andrew: And I’ve been watching, what’s this new Vlog that you’ve got. It’s on Russell, it’s on Russell Brunson’s YouTube channel right? I’m at the end of it going, “Hell yeah, why am I taking a shower now. I gotta go, I got stuff to do.” Right. These guys are out there taking over San Francisco, that’s my city. So I guess you’re feeling the same way at home. Now, he’s there twice, he suddenly owns a place. So your question was…?

Parker: My question was basically, how do you find these amazing people to work, not only for you, but with you and to help you accomplish your dream? Is it whittling out process or it you have innate ability to find people?

Russell: So as you were saying that I started thinking, I’m thinking about the partners on our team, who none of them came through like a help wanted site. None of them came through like, Brent went to church with me and he showed up every single week, every single month, he was my home teacher and showed up every single month consistently and we became friends and we did stuff together. John married my cousin. We were on the boat in the middle of the lake and he pitched me on a network marketer opportunity and I was like, I love this guy. And then I pitched him back and we just, and it was amazing.

And then Dave, we were at an event like this and we had a signup sheet if you wanted to take the speakers out to dinner and Dave ran back and signed up every single line under mine. So I went to every single meal with him for 3 days. I think it’s just, I think a big part of it, I think most entrepreneurs can’t build a team because they’re waiting to build the team. And I think for me, I didn’t know what I was doing so I just started running, and what happens when you’re moving forward and motion is happening, people get attracted to that. And some people will come for bad reasons and they’ll leave, and I’ve been taken advantage of multiple times, things like that will happen, but the right people will stick around.

But it’s all about, it’s the motion right. That’s what people are attracted to. If something’s happening. I don’t know what’s happening, but I want to be on that train and they start coming. So I think it’s taking the initiative of “Okay, I’m going to start running and I have no idea if anyone’s going to follow me ever. But If I do this and I keep doing it consistently then people will.” And you know, it’s been a consistency thing. I’m 15 years into this business now, 8000 funnels deep. But it’s a consistency, and when you do that and you’re consistent, then the right people will just start coming into your life. But not waiting for them initially. If I would have waited to build my team initially, we wouldn’t have a team. Everyone we met was like in the, as we were having motion, the right people started showing up.

Andrew: Alright. Thanks. Speaking of, thank you. How many people here are actually at Clickfunnels, if you work at Clickfunnels. Can you guys stand up if you work at Clickfunnels. There you go. I feel like at the end of this everyone’s going to want to go and meet Russell. Everyone’s going to want to go and mob him. And he’s not that social, number one. Number two, I feel like you’re going to pass up these fan-freaking-tastic conversations, I’ve gotten to know the people who work here a lot really well in preparation for this, I really urge you to see the guys, the people who are wearing these t-shirts. Get to know them. Push them into a corner, understand what’s working for them. And really, you’re fantastic people, thanks so much for helping me do this.

And thank you for having me on here. I really appreciate you being open, being willing to let me take this anywhere. You said, “I understand what Andrew is trying to do. He’s trying to figure this out. I’m going to let him run with it and let him make the magic happen.” And I think we made a lot of magic happen. Thanks so much for having me here.

Russell: Yeah man, it was amazing.

Andrew: Thank you all for coming, I’m looking forward to meeting every one of you. Thanks.

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]]> 2450 no ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 3 of 4 (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/clickfunnels-startup-story-part-3-of-4-revisited Enjoy part three of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you enjoyed episodes 1 and 2 of the interview with Andrew Warner at the Dry Bar Comedy Club where he was telling the Clickfunnels startup story. I hope you are enjoying this interview series so far, and I hope also this motivates you guys to go over to the mixergy podcast and subscribe to everything that Andrew does. Like I said, he is my favorite interviewer and I think that what he does is second to none. So I hope that you guys enjoy him as well, and go subscribe to the mixergy podcast. But with that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song, and when we come back we will start into part 3 of the Clickfunnels startup story interview. Andrew: I actually got, I did see, I don’t know, I didn’t see the video you mentioned, but I did see what it looked like. Here’s one of the first versions. He compared it to Clickfunnels, he said, I mean to Lead Pages. He said, “Look at how Lead Pages has their stuff all the way on the left, all the controls.” Oh you can’t see it. Oh, let me try it again, let me see if I can bring up the screen because this is just, it’s just too good. Hang on a second. I’m just constantly amazed how you’re able to draw people to you. So this is the article from Lead Pages, this is the first landing page from Clickfunnels, this is what he created before, this is what you guys did together. This is your editor and h e said, “Look, if you’re on Lead Pages, their controls, their editor is all the way on the left and it’s just moving the main content to the right, which is not looking right. And I prefer something that looks like this, with a hundred pixels on the left, a hundred pixels…” I go, who knows a hundred pixels, it’s like you, what is this? Russell: Dylan is obsessed with that type of stuff, it’s amazing. Andrew: Obsessed. And you draw people like that. You draw people like Dave, who is just phenomenal. Dave, the traffic and conversion event that he was just talking about, is that the one that you went to? Dave: The one after that. Andrew: The one after that. Okay, we’ll come back to that in a second then. So this became your next version, you brought on a new partner, and then you did a webinar with this guy. Who is this guy? Russell: It’s Mike Filsaime, one of my first friends online. It actually wasn’t a webinar, it was a live event. He was doing a live event in San Diego and he was like, “You have to come and sell Clickfunnels.” And I was like, “Nobody’s buying Clickfunnels.” We had a free trial and like, we couldn’t give it away. It was crazy. And he’s like, “Well, you’re on this website, you’re picture is there, you have to come and sell Clickfunnels, and I need you to sell it for at least $1000.” Because the way it works, if you speak at someone’s event, you sell something, you split the money 50/50. So he’s like, “It needs to be at least $1000.” And I was all bummed out. I didn’t want to do it. And the event actually started, but they were streaming it live online, so I was actually sitting at our office in Boise, watching it as I’m putting together my slides to create Clickfunnels, and then flew out to the event. And then we had a booth, and I don’t know if I told you this, we had a booth and Lead Pages had a booth right across the little hallway, skinny hallway. And Todd’s wife was manning our booth and then Lead Pages was right there, and it was so funny because she was not shy at all about talking about Lead Pages. She’s like, “Yeah, we’re like Lead Pages except for way better. We can do this and this.” And the other guy is sitting there like, right in front of her as she’s telling them everything. And it was..anyway, I digress. It was pretty funny. Andrew: By the way, she’s still at it. I saw a video that you guys created, you were talking to her and she goes, “I will be Clickfunnels.” I go wait a minute, you still had that fire, okay. So you were at that event. Russell: So we’re at the event and there’s probably, I can’t remember, 150-200 people maybe in the room. So I got the slides up and Dylan was there and he was like, when we got to the funnels he was going to demo the editor, so I did the whole thing, showed the presentation and we demo’d Clickfunnels and at the end of the thing I sold. And I’ve been good onstage, but by far, that was the first time in probably 8 years that I’d seen a table rush, where people are stepping over the things, jumping around, trying to get to the back to buy as fast as they could. Andrew: What did you say to get them to want to do that? Russell: We made a really, I mean we gave the presentation, and gave a really good offer at the end. They get a year of Clickfunnels for free, plus they get training, plus they were going to get all these other things for $1000. Andrew: It was $1000 training and a year of Clickfunnels for free, and then they become long term members. And it was also called, Funnel Hackers? Russell: Funnel Hacks, yeah. Andrew: Funnel Hacks. And that’s the thing that became like… Russell: The culture. Andrew: This culture, this tribe. It wasn’t just they were signing to learn from you, they were becoming funnel hackers. That’s it. Russell: I mean, that wasn’t planned though. It was like, I was trying to think about a sexy name for the presentation, so I’m like ah, Funnel Hacks. And somebody owned FunnelHacks.com, and I’m like, I’m still doing the presentation that way. And then later we made t-shirts that said, “Funnel Hackers” and then now we got 4 or 5 people have tattooed that to their bodies, it’s really weird. But anyway, that’s what happened. We did that and we sold it and I remember going to dinner that night with the guys who were there, and Todd and his wife and everything. And we were all excited because we made some money finally. But I was just like, “You guys don’t understand, like I’ve spoken on a lot of stages, and I haven’t seen a table rush like that.” And I remember back, there was a guy, he passed away a couple of years ago, his name was Fred Catona. And he was a radio guy. He was the guy who did the radio commercials for, do you guys remember, it’s got the guy from Star Trek, what’s his name? Audience member: Priceline. Russell: Priceline. He did the Priceline radio commercials and made that guy a billionaire. And he told me when we were doing the radio ads, “This is what’s going to happen. We’re going to test your ad and if it works, I’m going to call you on the phone and let you know you’re rich. Because if it works, it means you’re going to be rich.” So I remember going to dinner that night and I told the guys, “Just so you guys know, we’re rich.” And they’re like, “What do you mean? We made $150,000.” I’m like, “No, no, no. The way people responded to that, I’ve never seen that in my life. We’re rich.” The response rate from that, I’ve never seen. Andrew: And then you went to webinar after webinar after webinar. Russell: On the flight home that day I’m texting everybody I’ve ever met. “I got a hot offer, this webinar crushed it. We just closed whatever percent of the room at Filsaime’s event. Who wants to do it?” And we started filling up the calendar. Andrew: And the idea was, and you told me you did 2 to 3 some days. And the idea was, they would sell somebody on a course, and then their members would then hear how your software and your funnel hacking technique would help up what they just bought and then they would sign up. You’re still excited, I can see it in your face. And then this thing took off. And then you started doing an event for your culture, your community, and this guy spoke, Tony Robbins. Russell: Oh yeah, there’s Tony. Andrew: One of the first ones. Was he at the very first one? Russell: No, he came to the third one, was the first one we had him come to. Andrew: Yeah? Why do an event? Why do your own live event? Russell: So we’ve done events in the past. I know events are good, but I’d sworn off them because the last event we did, I think we sold 3 or 400 tickets and less than 100 people showed up and I was so embarrassed. I was like, “We’ll never do events again.” And as soon as this, as soon as Clickfunnels launched and it was growing, everyone’s like, “We want to do a meet up. We should do an event.” All the customers kept asking. And against my, I didn’t really want to do it, but at the same time I was launching my book, and I had won a Ferrari in this affiliate contest so I was like, “What if we did an event and we had the Ferrari there and we gave it away and then we’re…” we had other ideas for giving away other cars and it became this big, exciting thing that eventually turned into an event. And that was the first Funnel Hacking Live event in Vegas, and we had about 600 people at that one that showed up. And that’s where it all kind of, it all started. Andrew: And it built how much, how many people are you up to now? Russell: Last year we had 3500 people and we’re on track to have about 5000 at this year’s event. Andrew: 5000? Yeah. Russell: Those aren’t free tickets. Each ticket’s $1000, so it’s…. Andrew: So how much is that in total revenue? Russell: From the event? Andrew: Yeah. Russell: So ticket sales, last year was $3 ½ million, this year will be over $5. But at the event we sell coaching so last year we made $13 million in coaching sales at the event as well. Andrew: Wow, would you come up here for a second, Dave? Do you guys know Dave? Yeah, everyone knows Dave. You know what’s amazing… {Audience catcalls} Andrew: That’s amazing. Dave: I don’t know who that is. Andrew: A catcall. I saw a video, you guys have this vlog now, a beautifully show vlog. You guys went to sales force’s conference, you’re looking at the booths and in the video, do you remember what you did as you saw the different booths? Dave: I think that one I went and asked what the prices for each of the booths were. Andrew: Yes, and then you multiplied. And he’s like, you’re not enjoying the event, you’re calculating ahead, how much. “10,000 that’s 100,000….” It’s like wow, right. You do this all the time? Dave: Yeah. It’s a lot of money in an event like that. Andrew: And you think, and if this was not your event, you would be doing the same calculation trying to figure out how much they brought in today. Wowee. Alright when you went to sales force did you calculate how much money they probably did from their event? Dave: We were doing that the whole time, absolutely. Andrew: You saw the building, you had to know… Dave: Oh my gosh. 61 stories. Andrew: Why? Why do you guys want to know that? Why does, how does that… I want to understand your drive as a company and I feel like this is a part of it. Figuring out how much money other people are making, using that for fuel somehow. Tell me. Dave: I think it actually goes back to Russell and his wrestling days. We had the experience of going to Chicago right after that, and super just exhausted. And it was one of those things where he literally landed, we walked down and we’re underneath the tarmac and all the sudden Russell goes from just being totally exhausted to a massive state change. Where he’s literally right back where he was with his dad and he and his dad are walking that same path to go to, I think it was Nationals. And I saw Dan Usher, who was doing the filming, capturing that moment and it’s that type of a thing for Russell. Where all the sudden it’s the dream, where as soon as you see it, it can then happen. And Russell’s just been amazing at modeling, and again the whole idea as far as just going at a rapid, rapid speed. I mean it’s “Ready, fire, aim.” Andrew: It’s not you gawking at the sales force, what’s the sales force event called? Dave: Dream Force. Andrew: Dream force. It’s not you gawking at how well Sales Force’s event, Dream Force is doing, it’s not you having envy or just curiosity, it’s you saying, it’s possible. This is us. That’s it. Dave: It’s totally possible. Andrew: It’s totally possible. We could get there. And when you’re sizing up the building, you even found out how much the building cost. Who does that? Most people go, “Where’s the bathroom?” How much does the building cost? Dave: There’s a number. Andrew: It’s you saying, “We could maybe have that.” Dave: We can have that, yeah. Andrew: Got it. And so let’s go back a little bit. I asked you about Traffic and Conversion because the very first Traffic and Conversion conference you went to, you guys were nobodies. Nobody came and saw you. Dave: We were put out in North 40 pasture, way, way far away. Andrew: And some people would say, “One day I’ll get there.” you told Russell, “Today we’re going to get there.” Dave: Well Russell wanted, he was speaking and so whenever you’re speaking at an event, it’s important that you fill a room, like this. And there’s nothing worse than having an event and having no one show up. It’s just the worst feeling in the world. And so he’s like, “All we need, I gotta find some way of getting people into the event. I wish we had like some girls who could just hand out t-shirts or do something.” And I was like, we’re in San Diego, that’s like my home town. Russell: Dave’s like, “How many do you need?” That’s all he said. Dave: It’s just a number. It comes down to a number. How many do you want? So we ended up having, within an hour or so we had 5 girls there who were more than happy to dance around and give out t-shirts and fill the room. Andrew: and the room was full? Dave: Packed. Andrew: Packed. And why wouldn’t you say, “One day, the next time we come to Traffic and Conversion, the tenth time we’re going to do it.” Why did it have to be right there? Dave: It’s always now.   Andrew: It’s always now. Dave: It’s always now. Andrew: It’s always now. It’s never going to be the next funnel, it’s never going to be the next product launch. I’m going to do whatever we can right now, and the next one, and the next one. That’s it. That’s who you are. Dave: That’s how it works. Andrew: And now you’re a partner in the business. $83 million so far this year, you got a piece of that. Dave: Yes. Do i? Russell: Yeah. Dave: Just checking. Andrew: Do you get to take profits home now? Dave: We do. Andrew: You do, you personally do? Dave: Yes. Andrew: Are you a millionaire? Dave: Things are really good. Andrew: Millionaire good from Clickfunnels? Dave: yes. Andrew: Really? Dave: Yes. Andrew: Wow. And you’re another one. I was driving and I said, “What was it about Russell that made you work for him? What was it?” and you said, “I’ve never seen anyone implement like him.” Give me an example of early days, something that he implemented…you know what, forget that, let’s not go back to Russell. As a team, you guys have gotten really good at implementing. Give me an example of one thing that you’re just stunned by, we did it, it came out of nowhere, we could have been distracted by funnel software, we could have distracted by the next book, we did this thing, what is it? Dave: You’re here on this stage with JP, and this was what 6 weeks ago? Andrew: and this whole thing just came from an idea I heard. You use Voxer. Why do you use Voxer? Russell: I don’t know. Andrew: Because you like to talk into it. Russell: Yeah, and you can fast forward, you can listen at 4x speed, you can forward the messages to people really easily, it’s awesome. Andrew: and it’s just train of thought, boom, here’s what I think we’re going to…No, it’s not that. I heard it’s, “I have a secret project…” Russell: “I’ll tell you guys about it later.” And they all start freaking out. “Tell us now.” Andrew: “Secret project. I don’t know what it, it’s going to be exciting.” They don’t know what it is, going to be excited. Russell: Do you know how it started, this one? I was cleaning my wrestling room listening to you, and you were, I don’t know whose event it was, but you were at the campfire, it sounded like. And you were doing something like this and I was like, I want my own campfire chat to tell our story. And then I was like, “Dave, we should do it.” And now we’re here. So thanks for coming to our campfire…. Dave: That’s how it happens. Andrew: And that’s exciting to this day. Alright, thank you. Give him a big round, thank you so much. You know what, I didn’t mean for this to come onstage, but I’m glad that it is. This made you laugh when you accidentally saw it earlier too. Why is this making you laugh? What is it? Russell: So we’re not shy about our competitors, even when they’re our friends. So one of the companies we’re crossing out is his. That’s why it’s funny. Andrew: It’s one of my companies. That’s Bot Academy there. It’s also a company I invest in, that octopus is ManyChat, I’ve been a very big angel investor and supporter of theirs. I’m not at all insulted by that, I’m curious about it. You guys come across as such nice, happy-go-lucky guys. Dave asked me if I want water, I said “Dave I can’t have you give me any more things. I feel uncomfortable, I’m a New Yorker. Punch me, please.” So he goes, “Okay, one more thing. I’m going to give you socks.” So he gave me socks. Really, but still, you have murder in your eyes sometimes. You’re crossing out everybody. This is part of your culture, why? Russell: It comes back, for me its wrestling. When I was wrestling it was not, I don’t know, there’s different mentalities right. And I did a podcast on this one time and I think I offended some people, so I apologize in advance, but if you’re in a band and everyone gets together and you play together and you harmonize, it’s beautiful. When you’re a wrestler you don’t do that. You know, you walk in everyday and you’re like, those are the two guys I have to beat to be varsity. And then after you do that, you walk in and you’re like, “Okay who are the people I have to beat to be in the region champ, and then the state champ, and then the national champ?” So for me, my entire 15 years of my life, all my focus was like, who’s the next person on the rung that I have to beat? And it’s studying and learning about them and figuring their moves and figuring out what they’re good at, what they’re bad at so we can beat them. Then we beat them and go to the next thing, and next thing, and next thing. So it was never negative for me, it was competition. Half the guys were my friends and they were doing the same thing to me, we were doing the same thing to them. I come from a hyper competitive world where that’s everything we do. And I feel bad now, because in business, a lot of people we compete against aren’t competitive and I forget that sometimes, and some people don’t appreciate it. But that’s the drive. It’s just like, who do we, if I don’t have someone to, if there’s not someone we’re driving towards, there’s not a point for me. Andrew: And even if they’re, even if I was hurt, “I accept it, I’m sorry you’re hurt, Andrew. I still care and love you. We’re going to crush you.” That’s still there. Russell: And I had someone, so obviously InfusionSoft was one of our people we were targeting for a long, long time and I had a call with Clayton and someone on his team asked me, “Why do you hate Infusion Soft so much?” I was like, “I don’t, you don’t understand. I don’t hate, I love Infusion Soft. I’m grateful for it. I’m grateful for Lead Pages, I’m grateful for….” I told them, have you guys seen the Dark Knight, my favorite movie of all time? And it’s the part where Batman and the Joker are there and Batman is like, asks the Joker, “Why are you trying to kill me?” And the Joker starts laughing and he’s like, “I’m not trying to kill you. The reason I do this is because of you. If I didn’t have you, there’s no purpose behind it.” So for me it’s like, if I don’t have someone to compete against, why are we playing the game? So for me, that’s why we’re always looking… Andrew: It’s not enough to say, it’s not enough to just say “we’re playing the game because we want to help the next entrepreneur, or the next person who’s sick and needs to create…” no, it’s not. Russell: That’s a big part of it, but like, there’s something… Andrew: Yeah, but it’s not enough, it’s gotta be both. Russell: My whole life there’s, the competition is what drives me for sure. Andrew: And just like you’re wrestling with someone, trying to beat them, but you don’t hate them. You’re not going to their house and break it down… Russell: Everyone we wrestled, we were friends afterwards. We were on the same Freestyle and Greco teams later in the season, but during, when we’re competing, we’re competing and everyone’s going all at it. Andrew: Everyone’s going all at it. That’s an interesting way to end it. How much more time do we have? How much more time do we have? I’m going to keep going. Can I get you to come up here John, because I gotta get you to explain something to me? So I told you, I was online the other day, yeah give him a big round. I was online the other day, I don’t even know what I clicked, I clicked something and then I saw that Russell’s a great webinar person, everyone keeps telling me. Well, alright, I gotta find out how he does it. So I click over, “Alright, just give your email address and you can find out how..” Alright, I’ll give my email address to find out how he became such a great webinar presenter. “Just give a credit card. It’s only $4.95, so it comes in the mail.” It comes in the mail, that’s pretty cool. Nothing comes in the mail anymore. Here’s my credit card. It goes, “Alright, it’s going to mail it out. Would you also like to learn how to use these slides? $400.” I go, no! I’m done. Russell: Welcome to the funnel. Andrew: Welcome to the funnel. I’m done. But I’m going to put in Evernote a link to this page so I don’t lose it so I can come back. I swear. I did it. And this is my receipt for $4.95. Don’t you ever feel like, we’re beyond this? We’re in the software space now, we’re competing with Dropbox, we’re not competing with Joe Schmoe and his ebook. And you’re the guy who sold the, who bought the ad that got me. John: I know. Andrew: I asked you that. Do you ever feel a little embarrassed, “We’re still in the info market space.”? John: No, I think it’s the essence of what we do, of what Russell does. We love education. We love teaching people. I mean, the software is like the backend, but we’re not software people. I mean, we sell software, but we teach people. All these people here and all the people at all of our events, they just want to learn how to do it better. Andrew: I don’t believe it. John: Okay. Andrew: I believe in him. I don’t believe in you. I believe that for you it’s the numbers. Here’s why I don’t believe it. I’m looking in your eyes and you’re like, “I’m giving the script. I’m good, I’m doing the script.” I see it in your eyes, but when I was talking to you earlier, no offense. This is why he does what he does. When I was talking to you earlier, you told me about the numbers, the conversion, how we get you in the sales funnel, how we actually can then modify…That’s the exciting part. Don’t be insulted by the fact that I said it. Know that we have marketers here, they’re going to love you for being open about it. What’s going on here? What’s going on, keeping you in this space? John: Okay, from my perspective. Okay so, initially it was self liquidation on the front, which is what I was telling you. It was the fact that we were bootstrapped, we didn’t have money to just like throw out there. We had to make sure we were earning enough money to cover our ads. And Russell had all the trust in the world in me, I don’t know why he did, but he did. And he’s just like, “Spend money, and try to make it self-liquidate.” I’m like, “Okay.” So we just had to spend money and hope that we got enough back to keep spending money. Andrew: And self-liquidate means buy an ad today and make sure that we make money from that ad right away and then software. John: Yeah. Andrew: And then you told, and then software’s going to pay overtime, that’s our legacy, that’s our thing. And you told me software sucks for selling. Why? John: Software sucks, yeah. Andrew: Why? Everyone who’s in info, everyone’s who in education says, “I wish I was a software guy. Software is eating the world, they’re getting all the risk back.” I walked through San Francisco; they think anyone who doesn’t have software in their veins is a sucker. John: I asked the same thing to myself, you know. I was running ads, I’m like why can’t I just run ads straight to the offer? Why do I have go to these info products? I want to get on the soft…. And then I was like, I feel like it’s kind of like marriage. Like it’s a big thing to say like, “You probably already built websites, but come over, drop everything you’re doing and come over here and build websites over here on our thing.” And it’s like, that’s a hard pull. But “Hey, you want to build webinars? Here’s a little thing for $5 to build webinars.” Now you’re in our world, now we can talk to you, now you can trust us, now we can get you over there. Andrew: Got it. Okay, and if that’s what it takes to get people in your world, you’re going to accept it, you’re not going to feel too good for that, you’re just going to do it and grow it and grow it. John: Yeah. Andrew: What’s your ad budget now? See now you’re eyes are lighting up. Now I tapped into it. John: We spend about half a million a month. Andrew: half a million a month! John: Yeah. Don’t tell the accountant. Andrew: Do you guys pay with a credit card? Do you have a lot of miles? John: Yeah, we do. In fact…. Andrew: You do! How many miles? John: In fact, the accountant came into my office the other day and said, “Next time you buy a ticket, use the miles.” Andrew: Are they with Delta, because I think you guys flew me out with Delta. John: Yeah, American Express is where we’re spending all our money. Andrew: Wow. And you’re a partner too? John: Yeah. Andrew: Wow, congratulations. John: Thank you. Andrew: I don’t know you well enough to ask you if you’re a millionaire, I’m just going to say congratulations. Give him a big round. John: Thank you. Andrew: Wow, you know what, I actually was going to ask the videographers to come up here. I wrote their names down, I got the whole thing and I realized I shouldn’t interrupt them, because they’re shooting video. But I asked them, why are you, they had this career where they were flying all over the world shooting videos for their YouTube channel. I’m sorry, I forgot their name, and I don’t want to leave them out. Russell: Dan and Blake. Andrew: They were shooting YouTube videos, they were doing videos for other people. I said, “Why are you now giving it up and just working for Clickfunnels all the time? More importantly, why are you so excited about it?” And they said, “You know, it’s the way that we work with Russell.” And I said, do you remember the first time that you invited them out to shoot something? What was it? Russell: It was the very first Funnel Hacking Live we ever had, and probably 2 weeks prior to that, one of our friends had an event and Dan had captured the footage, and he showed me the videos. “Did you check out my Ven Video?” I’m like, “Oh my gosh, that was amazing.” And I said “Who did it?” and he told me. So I emailed Dan and I was like, “Hey, can you come do that for Funnel Hacking Live?” And he’s like, “What’s Funnel Hacking Live?” So I kind of told him, and he’s like, “Sure.” And it was like 2 weeks later and he’s like, “What’s the direction?” and I was like, “I don’t know, just bring the magic man. Whatever you did there, do that here.” And that’s kind of been his calling card since. He just comes and does stuff. Andrew: Bring the magic. He wants to have those words painted on the Toronto office you guys are starting. Literally, because he says you say that all the time. And the idea is, I want to understand how you hire. The idea is, “I’m going to find people who do good work, and I’m going to let them do it.” What happens if they wouldn’t have done it your way? What happens if it would have gone a different direction? Russell: I see your question, and I’m not perfect. So I’m going to caveat that by, some of the guys on my team know that I’m kind of, especially on the design and funnel stuff, I’m more picky on that, because I’m so into that and I love it. But what I’ve found is when you hire amazing people like Todd for example, doing Clickfunnels. The times I tried to do Clickfunnels prior, build it was like, me and I’m telling developers, “here’s what to do and how to do it.” And like there’s always some loss in communication. With Todd, he’s like, “I know exactly what I would build because I want this product too.” And then he just built it and he showed me stuff. And I’m like, “That’s a good idea.” And he’s like, “I did this too.” And I’m like, “That’s a good idea.” And it’s so much easier that way. So when you find the right people, it’s not you giving them ideas, it’s them coming to you with the ideas. And you’re like, “that is a good idea. Go do it.” And it just makes, takes all the pressure off your back. So for us, and it’s been fun because I look at, man, the last 15 years of all those different websites and the ups and the downs, the best people have always stuck. So we’ve got 15 years of getting the cream of the crop. It’s kind of like, I’m a super hero nerd, but it’s like the Avengers, at the end of, when Clickfunnels came about we had this Avenger team of people. And we’re like, now we’ve put in our dues, now it’s time to use all of our super powers to do this thing, and it all kind of came together. Andrew: Build it and build it up. And then as you were building it up, you then went to Sales Force. You guys invited me, you said, “Hey Andrew, we’re in San Francisco, you’re home town. Do you want to come out?” I said, “I’m going to be with the family.” And you said, “Good. Being with the family is better than hanging out with us.” But I still said, “What are you guys doing in San Francisco at Sales Force?” Because sales people don’t need landing pages, yet you guys will probably find a way for them to need it. Then I saw this, this is the last video that I’ve got. There’s no audio on it. I want you guys to look at their faces as they’re looking up at these buildings, walking through the Sales Force office. Look, they’re getting on the motorcycles in the lobby. They’re looking all around like, “Oh gee.” Counting the buildings that are Sales Force labeled. Look at that! What are they doing? Not believing that this is even possible. And then just stopping and going, this is dream force. This is your dream. What did you get out of going to sales Force’s event and seeing their office? Russell: Honestly, prior to Sales Force, I was kind of going through a weird funk in my business, because it was like, again there was the goals. So it was like, okay, we’re going to do a million bucks, and then we did that. And then it’s like, let’s make 10 million a year. And then 50, and then this year we’ll hit a hundred. And like, what’s the next goal?  A billion, because a hundred million, 2 hundred million is not that big of a difference. And it was just kind of like, what’s the point, what’s the purpose? We’ve grown as big as any company that I know. And then last year, Dave and Ryan had gone out there and they were telling me stories like, “There’s 170,000 businesses here.” And they were telling me all these things, and it sounded cool, but I didn’t, and they were going crazy. You have to see this so you can believe it. But there’s something about the energy about seeing something that makes it real. So this year I was like, I want to go and I want to see Benioff speak. I want to see the thing, the towers, I want to just understand it, because if I understand it, cool. Now we can reverse engineer and figure out how we can do it. So for me it was just like seeing it. I think in anything, any, as entrepreneurs too, if you’re people believe that you can do it, you’ll do it. If you believe you can lose weight, you’ll lose 3eight. If you believe you can grow a company, and I don’t feel like I believed that the next level was possible for us until I saw it. And then I was like, oh my gosh, this is not ridiculous. Benioff’s not, none of these guys are any smarter than any of us. It’s just like, they figured out the path. It was like, okay let’s look at the path. And then let’s look at it and now we can figure out our path. Andrew: And seeing it in person did that for you? Russell: Oh yeah. It makes it tangible, it makes it like, it’s like your physiology feels it, versus reading a book about it or hearing about it. It’s like you see it and you experience it, and it’s like it’s tangible. Andrew: I told you, I asked people before they came in here, “What are you looking for?” and a few of them frustrated me because they said, “I just wanted to see Russell. I just want to see the event.” I go, “Give me something I could ask a question about.” But I think they were looking for the same thing that you got out of there. And I know they got it. I’m going to ask them to come up here and ask some questions, and I want to know about the future of Clickfunnels, but first I’ve got to just acknowledge that, that we are here to just kind of pick up on that energy. That energy that got you to pick yourself back up when anyone else would have said, “I’m a failure of a husband, I can’t do this.” Go back. The tension that came from failing and almost going to jail as you said, from failing and succeeding, and failing again. And still, that is inspiring to see. I want to give the whole Clickfunnels family a big round of applause, please everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0000 ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 3 of 4 (Revisited!) full 440 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy part three of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! 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But with that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song, and when we come back we will start into part 3 of the Clickfunnels startup story interview. Andrew: I actually got, I did see, I don’t know, I didn’t see the video you mentioned, but I did see what it looked like. Here’s one of the first versions. He compared it to Clickfunnels, he said, I mean to Lead Pages. He said, “Look at how Lead Pages has their stuff all the way on the left, all the controls.” Oh you can’t see it. Oh, let me try it again, let me see if I can bring up the screen because this is just, it’s just too good. Hang on a second. I’m just constantly amazed how you’re able to draw people to you. So this is the article from Lead Pages, this is the first landing page from Clickfunnels, this is what he created before, this is what you guys did together. This is your editor and h e said, “Look, if you’re on Lead Pages, their controls, their editor is all the way on the left and it’s just moving the main content to the right, which is not looking right. And I prefer something that looks like this, with a hundred pixels on the left, a hundred pixels…” I go, who knows a hundred pixels, it’s like you, what is this? Russell: Dylan is obsessed with that type of stuff, it’s amazing. Andrew: Obsessed. And you draw people like that. You draw people like Dave, who is just phenomenal. Dave, the traffic and conversion event that he was just talking about, is that the one that you went to? Dave: The one after that. Andrew: The one after that. Okay, we’ll come back to that in a second then. So this became your next version, you brought on a new partner, and then you did a webinar with this guy. Who is this guy? Russell: It’s Mike Filsaime, one of my first friends online. It actually wasn’t a webinar, it was a live event. He was doing a live event in San Diego and he was like, “You have to come and sell Clickfunnels.” And I was like, “Nobody’s buying Clickfunnels.” We had a free trial and like, we couldn’t give it away. It was crazy. And he’s like, “Well, you’re on this website, you’re picture is there, you have to come and sell Clickfunnels, and I need you to sell it for at least $1000.” Because the way it works, if you speak at someone’s event, you sell something, you split the money 50/50. So he’s like, “It needs to be at least $1000.” And I was all bummed out. I didn’t want to do it. And the event actually started, but they were streaming it live online, so I was actually sitting at our office in Boise, watching it as I’m putting together my slides to create Clickfunnels, and then flew out to the event. And then we had a booth, and I don’t know if I told you this, we had a booth and Lead Pages had a booth right across the little hallway, skinny hallway. And Todd’s wife was manning our booth and then Lead Pages was right there, and it was so funny because she was not shy at all about talking about Lead Pages. She’s like, “Yeah, we’re like Lead Pages except for way better. We can do this and this.” And the other guy is sitting there like, right in front of her as she’s telling them everything. And it was..anyway, I digress. It was pretty funny. Andrew: By the way, she’s still at it. I saw a video that you guys created, you were talking to her and she goes, “I will be Clickfunnels.” I go wait a minute, you still had that fire, okay. So you were at that event. Russell: So we’re at the event and there’s probably, I can’t remember, 150-200 people maybe in the room. So I got the slides up and Dylan was there and he was like, when we got to the funnels he was going to demo the editor, so I did the whole thing, showed the presentation and we demo’d Clickfunnels and at the end of the thing I sold. And I’ve been good onstage, but by far, that was the first time in probably 8 years that I’d seen a table rush, where people are stepping over the things, jumping around, trying to get to the back to buy as fast as they could. Andrew: What did you say to get them to want to do that? Russell: We made a really, I mean we gave the presentation, and gave a really good offer at the end. They get a year of Clickfunnels for free, plus they get training, plus they were going to get all these other things for $1000. Andrew: It was $1000 training and a year of Clickfunnels for free, and then they become long term members. And it was also called, Funnel Hackers? Russell: Funnel Hacks, yeah. Andrew: Funnel Hacks. And that’s the thing that became like… Russell: The culture. Andrew: This culture, this tribe. It wasn’t just they were signing to learn from you, they were becoming funnel hackers. That’s it. Russell: I mean, that wasn’t planned though. It was like, I was trying to think about a sexy name for the presentation, so I’m like ah, Funnel Hacks. And somebody owned FunnelHacks.com, and I’m like, I’m still doing the presentation that way. And then later we made t-shirts that said, “Funnel Hackers” and then now we got 4 or 5 people have tattooed that to their bodies, it’s really weird. But anyway, that’s what happened. We did that and we sold it and I remember going to dinner that night with the guys who were there, and Todd and his wife and everything. And we were all excited because we made some money finally. But I was just like, “You guys don’t understand, like I’ve spoken on a lot of stages, and I haven’t seen a table rush like that.” And I remember back, there was a guy, he passed away a couple of years ago, his name was Fred Catona. And he was a radio guy. He was the guy who did the radio commercials for, do you guys remember, it’s got the guy from Star Trek, what’s his name? Audience member: Priceline. Russell: Priceline. He did the Priceline radio commercials and made that guy a billionaire. And he told me when we were doing the radio ads, “This is what’s going to happen. We’re going to test your ad and if it works, I’m going to call you on the phone and let you know you’re rich. Because if it works, it means you’re going to be rich.” So I remember going to dinner that night and I told the guys, “Just so you guys know, we’re rich.” And they’re like, “What do you mean? We made $150,000.” I’m like, “No, no, no. The way people responded to that, I’ve never seen that in my life. We’re rich.” The response rate from that, I’ve never seen. Andrew: And then you went to webinar after webinar after webinar. Russell: On the flight home that day I’m texting everybody I’ve ever met. “I got a hot offer, this webinar crushed it. We just closed whatever percent of the room at Filsaime’s event. Who wants to do it?” And we started filling up the calendar. Andrew: And the idea was, and you told me you did 2 to 3 some days. And the idea was, they would sell somebody on a course, and then their members would then hear how your software and your funnel hacking technique would help up what they just bought and then they would sign up. You’re still excited, I can see it in your face. And then this thing took off. And then you started doing an event for your culture, your community, and this guy spoke, Tony Robbins. Russell: Oh yeah, there’s Tony. Andrew: One of the first ones. Was he at the very first one? Russell: No, he came to the third one, was the first one we had him come to. Andrew: Yeah? Why do an event? Why do your own live event? Russell: So we’ve done events in the past. I know events are good, but I’d sworn off them because the last event we did, I think we sold 3 or 400 tickets and less than 100 people showed up and I was so embarrassed. I was like, “We’ll never do events again.” And as soon as this, as soon as Clickfunnels launched and it was growing, everyone’s like, “We want to do a meet up. We should do an event.” All the customers kept asking. And against my, I didn’t really want to do it, but at the same time I was launching my book, and I had won a Ferrari in this affiliate contest so I was like, “What if we did an event and we had the Ferrari there and we gave it away and then we’re…” we had other ideas for giving away other cars and it became this big, exciting thing that eventually turned into an event. And that was the first Funnel Hacking Live event in Vegas, and we had about 600 people at that one that showed up. And that’s where it all kind of, it all started. Andrew: And it built how much, how many people are you up to now? Russell: Last year we had 3500 people and we’re on track to have about 5000 at this year’s event. Andrew: 5000? Yeah. Russell: Those aren’t free tickets. Each ticket’s $1000, so it’s…. Andrew: So how much is that in total revenue? Russell: From the event? Andrew: Yeah. Russell: So ticket sales, last year was $3 ½ million, this year will be over $5. But at the event we sell coaching so last year we made $13 million in coaching sales at the event as well. Andrew: Wow, would you come up here for a second, Dave? Do you guys know Dave? Yeah, everyone knows Dave. You know what’s amazing… {Audience catcalls} Andrew: That’s amazing. Dave: I don’t know who that is. Andrew: A catcall. I saw a video, you guys have this vlog now, a beautifully show vlog. You guys went to sales force’s conference, you’re looking at the booths and in the video, do you remember what you did as you saw the different booths? Dave: I think that one I went and asked what the prices for each of the booths were. Andrew: Yes, and then you multiplied. And he’s like, you’re not enjoying the event, you’re calculating ahead, how much. “10,000 that’s 100,000….” It’s like wow, right. You do this all the time? Dave: Yeah. It’s a lot of money in an event like that. Andrew: And you think, and if this was not your event, you would be doing the same calculation trying to figure out how much they brought in today. Wowee. Alright when you went to sales force did you calculate how much money they probably did from their event? Dave: We were doing that the whole time, absolutely. Andrew: You saw the building, you had to know… Dave: Oh my gosh. 61 stories. Andrew: Why? Why do you guys want to know that? Why does, how does that… I want to understand your drive as a company and I feel like this is a part of it. Figuring out how much money other people are making, using that for fuel somehow. Tell me. Dave: I think it actually goes back to Russell and his wrestling days. We had the experience of going to Chicago right after that, and super just exhausted. And it was one of those things where he literally landed, we walked down and we’re underneath the tarmac and all the sudden Russell goes from just being totally exhausted to a massive state change. Where he’s literally right back where he was with his dad and he and his dad are walking that same path to go to, I think it was Nationals. And I saw Dan Usher, who was doing the filming, capturing that moment and it’s that type of a thing for Russell. Where all the sudden it’s the dream, where as soon as you see it, it can then happen. And Russell’s just been amazing at modeling, and again the whole idea as far as just going at a rapid, rapid speed. I mean it’s “Ready, fire, aim.” Andrew: It’s not you gawking at the sales force, what’s the sales force event called? Dave: Dream Force. Andrew: Dream force. It’s not you gawking at how well Sales Force’s event, Dream Force is doing, it’s not you having envy or just curiosity, it’s you saying, it’s possible. This is us. That’s it. Dave: It’s totally possible. Andrew: It’s totally possible. We could get there. And when you’re sizing up the building, you even found out how much the building cost. Who does that? Most people go, “Where’s the bathroom?” How much does the building cost? Dave: There’s a number. Andrew: It’s you saying, “We could maybe have that.” Dave: We can have that, yeah. Andrew: Got it. And so let’s go back a little bit. I asked you about Traffic and Conversion because the very first Traffic and Conversion conference you went to, you guys were nobodies. Nobody came and saw you. Dave: We were put out in North 40 pasture, way, way far away. Andrew: And some people would say, “One day I’ll get there.” you told Russell, “Today we’re going to get there.” Dave: Well Russell wanted, he was speaking and so whenever you’re speaking at an event, it’s important that you fill a room, like this. And there’s nothing worse than having an event and having no one show up. It’s just the worst feeling in the world. And so he’s like, “All we need, I gotta find some way of getting people into the event. I wish we had like some girls who could just hand out t-shirts or do something.” And I was like, we’re in San Diego, that’s like my home town. Russell: Dave’s like, “How many do you need?” That’s all he said. Dave: It’s just a number. It comes down to a number. How many do you want? So we ended up having, within an hour or so we had 5 girls there who were more than happy to dance around and give out t-shirts and fill the room. Andrew: and the room was full? Dave: Packed. Andrew: Packed. And why wouldn’t you say, “One day, the next time we come to Traffic and Conversion, the tenth time we’re going to do it.” Why did it have to be right there? Dave: It’s always now.   Andrew: It’s always now. Dave: It’s always now. Andrew: It’s always now. It’s never going to be the next funnel, it’s never going to be the next product launch. I’m going to do whatever we can right now, and the next one, and the next one. That’s it. That’s who you are. Dave: That’s how it works. Andrew: And now you’re a partner in the business. $83 million so far this year, you got a piece of that. Dave: Yes. Do i? Russell: Yeah. Dave: Just checking. Andrew: Do you get to take profits home now? Dave: We do. Andrew: You do, you personally do? Dave: Yes. Andrew: Are you a millionaire? Dave: Things are really good. Andrew: Millionaire good from Clickfunnels? Dave: yes. Andrew: Really? Dave: Yes. Andrew: Wow. And you’re another one. I was driving and I said, “What was it about Russell that made you work for him? What was it?” and you said, “I’ve never seen anyone implement like him.” Give me an example of early days, something that he implemented…you know what, forget that, let’s not go back to Russell. As a team, you guys have gotten really good at implementing. Give me an example of one thing that you’re just stunned by, we did it, it came out of nowhere, we could have been distracted by funnel software, we could have distracted by the next book, we did this thing, what is it? Dave: You’re here on this stage with JP, and this was what 6 weeks ago? Andrew: and this whole thing just came from an idea I heard. You use Voxer. Why do you use Voxer? Russell: I don’t know. Andrew: Because you like to talk into it. Russell: Yeah, and you can fast forward, you can listen at 4x speed, you can forward the messages to people really easily, it’s awesome. Andrew: and it’s just train of thought, boom, here’s what I think we’re going to…No, it’s not that. I heard it’s, “I have a secret project…” Russell: “I’ll tell you guys about it later.” And they all start freaking out. “Tell us now.” Andrew: “Secret project. I don’t know what it, it’s going to be exciting.” They don’t know what it is, going to be excited. Russell: Do you know how it started, this one? I was cleaning my wrestling room listening to you, and you were, I don’t know whose event it was, but you were at the campfire, it sounded like. And you were doing something like this and I was like, I want my own campfire chat to tell our story. And then I was like, “Dave, we should do it.” And now we’re here. So thanks for coming to our campfire…. Dave: That’s how it happens. Andrew: And that’s exciting to this day. Alright, thank you. Give him a big round, thank you so much. You know what, I didn’t mean for this to come onstage, but I’m glad that it is. This made you laugh when you accidentally saw it earlier too. Why is this making you laugh? What is it? Russell: So we’re not shy about our competitors, even when they’re our friends. So one of the companies we’re crossing out is his. That’s why it’s funny. Andrew: It’s one of my companies. That’s Bot Academy there. It’s also a company I invest in, that octopus is ManyChat, I’ve been a very big angel investor and supporter of theirs. I’m not at all insulted by that, I’m curious about it. You guys come across as such nice, happy-go-lucky guys. Dave asked me if I want water, I said “Dave I can’t have you give me any more things. I feel uncomfortable, I’m a New Yorker. Punch me, please.” So he goes, “Okay, one more thing. I’m going to give you socks.” So he gave me socks. Really, but still, you have murder in your eyes sometimes. You’re crossing out everybody. This is part of your culture, why? Russell: It comes back, for me its wrestling. When I was wrestling it was not, I don’t know, there’s different mentalities right. And I did a podcast on this one time and I think I offended some people, so I apologize in advance, but if you’re in a band and everyone gets together and you play together and you harmonize, it’s beautiful. When you’re a wrestler you don’t do that. You know, you walk in everyday and you’re like, those are the two guys I have to beat to be varsity. And then after you do that, you walk in and you’re like, “Okay who are the people I have to beat to be in the region champ, and then the state champ, and then the national champ?” So for me, my entire 15 years of my life, all my focus was like, who’s the next person on the rung that I have to beat? And it’s studying and learning about them and figuring their moves and figuring out what they’re good at, what they’re bad at so we can beat them. Then we beat them and go to the next thing, and next thing, and next thing. So it was never negative for me, it was competition. Half the guys were my friends and they were doing the same thing to me, we were doing the same thing to them. I come from a hyper competitive world where that’s everything we do. And I feel bad now, because in business, a lot of people we compete against aren’t competitive and I forget that sometimes, and some people don’t appreciate it. But that’s the drive. It’s just like, who do we, if I don’t have someone to, if there’s not someone we’re driving towards, there’s not a point for me. Andrew: And even if they’re, even if I was hurt, “I accept it, I’m sorry you’re hurt, Andrew. I still care and love you. We’re going to crush you.” That’s still there. Russell: And I had someone, so obviously InfusionSoft was one of our people we were targeting for a long, long time and I had a call with Clayton and someone on his team asked me, “Why do you hate Infusion Soft so much?” I was like, “I don’t, you don’t understand. I don’t hate, I love Infusion Soft. I’m grateful for it. I’m grateful for Lead Pages, I’m grateful for….” I told them, have you guys seen the Dark Knight, my favorite movie of all time? And it’s the part where Batman and the Joker are there and Batman is like, asks the Joker, “Why are you trying to kill me?” And the Joker starts laughing and he’s like, “I’m not trying to kill you. The reason I do this is because of you. If I didn’t have you, there’s no purpose behind it.” So for me it’s like, if I don’t have someone to compete against, why are we playing the game? So for me, that’s why we’re always looking… Andrew: It’s not enough to say, it’s not enough to just say “we’re playing the game because we want to help the next entrepreneur, or the next person who’s sick and needs to create…” no, it’s not. Russell: That’s a big part of it, but like, there’s something… Andrew: Yeah, but it’s not enough, it’s gotta be both. Russell: My whole life there’s, the competition is what drives me for sure. Andrew: And just like you’re wrestling with someone, trying to beat them, but you don’t hate them. You’re not going to their house and break it down… Russell: Everyone we wrestled, we were friends afterwards. We were on the same Freestyle and Greco teams later in the season, but during, when we’re competing, we’re competing and everyone’s going all at it. Andrew: Everyone’s going all at it. That’s an interesting way to end it. How much more time do we have? How much more time do we have? I’m going to keep going. Can I get you to come up here John, because I gotta get you to explain something to me? So I told you, I was online the other day, yeah give him a big round. I was online the other day, I don’t even know what I clicked, I clicked something and then I saw that Russell’s a great webinar person, everyone keeps telling me. Well, alright, I gotta find out how he does it. So I click over, “Alright, just give your email address and you can find out how..” Alright, I’ll give my email address to find out how he became such a great webinar presenter. “Just give a credit card. It’s only $4.95, so it comes in the mail.” It comes in the mail, that’s pretty cool. Nothing comes in the mail anymore. Here’s my credit card. It goes, “Alright, it’s going to mail it out. Would you also like to learn how to use these slides? $400.” I go, no! I’m done. Russell: Welcome to the funnel. Andrew: Welcome to the funnel. I’m done. But I’m going to put in Evernote a link to this page so I don’t lose it so I can come back. I swear. I did it. And this is my receipt for $4.95. Don’t you ever feel like, we’re beyond this? We’re in the software space now, we’re competing with Dropbox, we’re not competing with Joe Schmoe and his ebook. And you’re the guy who sold the, who bought the ad that got me. John: I know. Andrew: I asked you that. Do you ever feel a little embarrassed, “We’re still in the info market space.”? John: No, I think it’s the essence of what we do, of what Russell does. We love education. We love teaching people. I mean, the software is like the backend, but we’re not software people. I mean, we sell software, but we teach people. All these people here and all the people at all of our events, they just want to learn how to do it better. Andrew: I don’t believe it. John: Okay. Andrew: I believe in him. I don’t believe in you. I believe that for you it’s the numbers. Here’s why I don’t believe it. I’m looking in your eyes and you’re like, “I’m giving the script. I’m good, I’m doing the script.” I see it in your eyes, but when I was talking to you earlier, no offense. This is why he does what he does. When I was talking to you earlier, you told me about the numbers, the conversion, how we get you in the sales funnel, how we actually can then modify…That’s the exciting part. Don’t be insulted by the fact that I said it. Know that we have marketers here, they’re going to love you for being open about it. What’s going on here? What’s going on, keeping you in this space? John: Okay, from my perspective. Okay so, initially it was self liquidation on the front, which is what I was telling you. It was the fact that we were bootstrapped, we didn’t have money to just like throw out there. We had to make sure we were earning enough money to cover our ads. And Russell had all the trust in the world in me, I don’t know why he did, but he did. And he’s just like, “Spend money, and try to make it self-liquidate.” I’m like, “Okay.” So we just had to spend money and hope that we got enough back to keep spending money. Andrew: And self-liquidate means buy an ad today and make sure that we make money from that ad right away and then software. John: Yeah. Andrew: And then you told, and then software’s going to pay overtime, that’s our legacy, that’s our thing. And you told me software sucks for selling. Why? John: Software sucks, yeah. Andrew: Why? Everyone who’s in info, everyone’s who in education says, “I wish I was a software guy. Software is eating the world, they’re getting all the risk back.” I walked through San Francisco; they think anyone who doesn’t have software in their veins is a sucker. John: I asked the same thing to myself, you know. I was running ads, I’m like why can’t I just run ads straight to the offer? Why do I have go to these info products? I want to get on the soft…. And then I was like, I feel like it’s kind of like marriage. Like it’s a big thing to say like, “You probably already built websites, but come over, drop everything you’re doing and come over here and build websites over here on our thing.” And it’s like, that’s a hard pull. But “Hey, you want to build webinars? Here’s a little thing for $5 to build webinars.” Now you’re in our world, now we can talk to you, now you can trust us, now we can get you over there. Andrew: Got it. Okay, and if that’s what it takes to get people in your world, you’re going to accept it, you’re not going to feel too good for that, you’re just going to do it and grow it and grow it. John: Yeah. Andrew: What’s your ad budget now? See now you’re eyes are lighting up. Now I tapped into it. John: We spend about half a million a month. Andrew: half a million a month! John: Yeah. Don’t tell the accountant. Andrew: Do you guys pay with a credit card? Do you have a lot of miles? John: Yeah, we do. In fact…. Andrew: You do! How many miles? John: In fact, the accountant came into my office the other day and said, “Next time you buy a ticket, use the miles.” Andrew: Are they with Delta, because I think you guys flew me out with Delta. John: Yeah, American Express is where we’re spending all our money. Andrew: Wow. And you’re a partner too? John: Yeah. Andrew: Wow, congratulations. John: Thank you. Andrew: I don’t know you well enough to ask you if you’re a millionaire, I’m just going to say congratulations. Give him a big round. John: Thank you. Andrew: Wow, you know what, I actually was going to ask the videographers to come up here. I wrote their names down, I got the whole thing and I realized I shouldn’t interrupt them, because they’re shooting video. But I asked them, why are you, they had this career where they were flying all over the world shooting videos for their YouTube channel. I’m sorry, I forgot their name, and I don’t want to leave them out. Russell: Dan and Blake. Andrew: They were shooting YouTube videos, they were doing videos for other people. I said, “Why are you now giving it up and just working for Clickfunnels all the time? More importantly, why are you so excited about it?” And they said, “You know, it’s the way that we work with Russell.” And I said, do you remember the first time that you invited them out to shoot something? What was it? Russell: It was the very first Funnel Hacking Live we ever had, and probably 2 weeks prior to that, one of our friends had an event and Dan had captured the footage, and he showed me the videos. “Did you check out my Ven Video?” I’m like, “Oh my gosh, that was amazing.” And I said “Who did it?” and he told me. So I emailed Dan and I was like, “Hey, can you come do that for Funnel Hacking Live?” And he’s like, “What’s Funnel Hacking Live?” So I kind of told him, and he’s like, “Sure.” And it was like 2 weeks later and he’s like, “What’s the direction?” and I was like, “I don’t know, just bring the magic man. Whatever you did there, do that here.” And that’s kind of been his calling card since. He just comes and does stuff. Andrew: Bring the magic. He wants to have those words painted on the Toronto office you guys are starting. Literally, because he says you say that all the time. And the idea is, I want to understand how you hire. The idea is, “I’m going to find people who do good work, and I’m going to let them do it.” What happens if they wouldn’t have done it your way? What happens if it would have gone a different direction? Russell: I see your question, and I’m not perfect. So I’m going to caveat that by, some of the guys on my team know that I’m kind of, especially on the design and funnel stuff, I’m more picky on that, because I’m so into that and I love it. But what I’ve found is when you hire amazing people like Todd for example, doing Clickfunnels. The times I tried to do Clickfunnels prior, build it was like, me and I’m telling developers, “here’s what to do and how to do it.” And like there’s always some loss in communication. With Todd, he’s like, “I know exactly what I would build because I want this product too.” And then he just built it and he showed me stuff. And I’m like, “That’s a good idea.” And he’s like, “I did this too.” And I’m like, “That’s a good idea.” And it’s so much easier that way. So when you find the right people, it’s not you giving them ideas, it’s them coming to you with the ideas. And you’re like, “that is a good idea. Go do it.” And it just makes, takes all the pressure off your back. So for us, and it’s been fun because I look at, man, the last 15 years of all those different websites and the ups and the downs, the best people have always stuck. So we’ve got 15 years of getting the cream of the crop. It’s kind of like, I’m a super hero nerd, but it’s like the Avengers, at the end of, when Clickfunnels came about we had this Avenger team of people. And we’re like, now we’ve put in our dues, now it’s time to use all of our super powers to do this thing, and it all kind of came together. Andrew: Build it and build it up. And then as you were building it up, you then went to Sales Force. You guys invited me, you said, “Hey Andrew, we’re in San Francisco, you’re home town. Do you want to come out?” I said, “I’m going to be with the family.” And you said, “Good. Being with the family is better than hanging out with us.” But I still said, “What are you guys doing in San Francisco at Sales Force?” Because sales people don’t need landing pages, yet you guys will probably find a way for them to need it. Then I saw this, this is the last video that I’ve got. There’s no audio on it. I want you guys to look at their faces as they’re looking up at these buildings, walking through the Sales Force office. Look, they’re getting on the motorcycles in the lobby. They’re looking all around like, “Oh gee.” Counting the buildings that are Sales Force labeled. Look at that! What are they doing? Not believing that this is even possible. And then just stopping and going, this is dream force. This is your dream. What did you get out of going to sales Force’s event and seeing their office? Russell: Honestly, prior to Sales Force, I was kind of going through a weird funk in my business, because it was like, again there was the goals. So it was like, okay, we’re going to do a million bucks, and then we did that. And then it’s like, let’s make 10 million a year. And then 50, and then this year we’ll hit a hundred. And like, what’s the next goal?  A billion, because a hundred million, 2 hundred million is not that big of a difference. And it was just kind of like, what’s the point, what’s the purpose? We’ve grown as big as any company that I know. And then last year, Dave and Ryan had gone out there and they were telling me stories like, “There’s 170,000 businesses here.” And they were telling me all these things, and it sounded cool, but I didn’t, and they were going crazy. You have to see this so you can believe it. But there’s something about the energy about seeing something that makes it real. So this year I was like, I want to go and I want to see Benioff speak. I want to see the thing, the towers, I want to just understand it, because if I understand it, cool. Now we can reverse engineer and figure out how we can do it. So for me it was just like seeing it. I think in anything, any, as entrepreneurs too, if you’re people believe that you can do it, you’ll do it. If you believe you can lose weight, you’ll lose 3eight. If you believe you can grow a company, and I don’t feel like I believed that the next level was possible for us until I saw it. And then I was like, oh my gosh, this is not ridiculous. Benioff’s not, none of these guys are any smarter than any of us. It’s just like, they figured out the path. It was like, okay let’s look at the path. And then let’s look at it and now we can figure out our path. Andrew: And seeing it in person did that for you? Russell: Oh yeah. It makes it tangible, it makes it like, it’s like your physiology feels it, versus reading a book about it or hearing about it. It’s like you see it and you experience it, and it’s like it’s tangible. Andrew: I told you, I asked people before they came in here, “What are you looking for?” and a few of them frustrated me because they said, “I just wanted to see Russell. I just want to see the event.” I go, “Give me something I could ask a question about.” But I think they were looking for the same thing that you got out of there. And I know they got it. I’m going to ask them to come up here and ask some questions, and I want to know about the future of Clickfunnels, but first I’ve got to just acknowledge that, that we are here to just kind of pick up on that energy. That energy that got you to pick yourself back up when anyone else would have said, “I’m a failure of a husband, I can’t do this.” Go back. The tension that came from failing and almost going to jail as you said, from failing and succeeding, and failing again. And still, that is inspiring to see. I want to give the whole Clickfunnels family a big round of applause, please everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Enjoy part three of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story!

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Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you enjoyed episodes 1 and 2 of the interview with Andrew Warner at the Dry Bar Comedy Club where he was telling the Clickfunnels startup story. I hope you are enjoying this interview series so far, and I hope also this motivates you guys to go over to the mixergy podcast and subscribe to everything that Andrew does. Like I said, he is my favorite interviewer and I think that what he does is second to none. So I hope that you guys enjoy him as well, and go subscribe to the mixergy podcast. But with that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song, and when we come back we will start into part 3 of the Clickfunnels startup story interview.

Andrew: I actually got, I did see, I don’t know, I didn’t see the video you mentioned, but I did see what it looked like. Here’s one of the first versions. He compared it to Clickfunnels, he said, I mean to Lead Pages. He said, “Look at how Lead Pages has their stuff all the way on the left, all the controls.” Oh you can’t see it. Oh, let me try it again, let me see if I can bring up the screen because this is just, it’s just too good. Hang on a second.

I’m just constantly amazed how you’re able to draw people to you. So this is the article from Lead Pages, this is the first landing page from Clickfunnels, this is what he created before, this is what you guys did together. This is your editor and h e said, “Look, if you’re on Lead Pages, their controls, their editor is all the way on the left and it’s just moving the main content to the right, which is not looking right. And I prefer something that looks like this, with a hundred pixels on the left, a hundred pixels…” I go, who knows a hundred pixels, it’s like you, what is this?

Russell: Dylan is obsessed with that type of stuff, it’s amazing.

Andrew: Obsessed. And you draw people like that. You draw people like Dave, who is just phenomenal. Dave, the traffic and conversion event that he was just talking about, is that the one that you went to?

Dave: The one after that.

Andrew: The one after that. Okay, we’ll come back to that in a second then. So this became your next version, you brought on a new partner, and then you did a webinar with this guy. Who is this guy?

Russell: It’s Mike Filsaime, one of my first friends online. It actually wasn’t a webinar, it was a live event. He was doing a live event in San Diego and he was like, “You have to come and sell Clickfunnels.” And I was like, “Nobody’s buying Clickfunnels.” We had a free trial and like, we couldn’t give it away. It was crazy. And he’s like, “Well, you’re on this website, you’re picture is there, you have to come and sell Clickfunnels, and I need you to sell it for at least $1000.” Because the way it works, if you speak at someone’s event, you sell something, you split the money 50/50. So he’s like, “It needs to be at least $1000.”

And I was all bummed out. I didn’t want to do it. And the event actually started, but they were streaming it live online, so I was actually sitting at our office in Boise, watching it as I’m putting together my slides to create Clickfunnels, and then flew out to the event. And then we had a booth, and I don’t know if I told you this, we had a booth and Lead Pages had a booth right across the little hallway, skinny hallway. And Todd’s wife was manning our booth and then Lead Pages was right there, and it was so funny because she was not shy at all about talking about Lead Pages.

She’s like, “Yeah, we’re like Lead Pages except for way better. We can do this and this.” And the other guy is sitting there like, right in front of her as she’s telling them everything. And it was..anyway, I digress. It was pretty funny.

Andrew: By the way, she’s still at it. I saw a video that you guys created, you were talking to her and she goes, “I will be Clickfunnels.” I go wait a minute, you still had that fire, okay. So you were at that event.

Russell: So we’re at the event and there’s probably, I can’t remember, 150-200 people maybe in the room. So I got the slides up and Dylan was there and he was like, when we got to the funnels he was going to demo the editor, so I did the whole thing, showed the presentation and we demo’d Clickfunnels and at the end of the thing I sold. And I’ve been good onstage, but by far, that was the first time in probably 8 years that I’d seen a table rush, where people are stepping over the things, jumping around, trying to get to the back to buy as fast as they could.

Andrew: What did you say to get them to want to do that?

Russell: We made a really, I mean we gave the presentation, and gave a really good offer at the end. They get a year of Clickfunnels for free, plus they get training, plus they were going to get all these other things for $1000.

Andrew: It was $1000 training and a year of Clickfunnels for free, and then they become long term members. And it was also called, Funnel Hackers?

Russell: Funnel Hacks, yeah.

Andrew: Funnel Hacks. And that’s the thing that became like…

Russell: The culture.

Andrew: This culture, this tribe. It wasn’t just they were signing to learn from you, they were becoming funnel hackers. That’s it.

Russell: I mean, that wasn’t planned though. It was like, I was trying to think about a sexy name for the presentation, so I’m like ah, Funnel Hacks. And somebody owned FunnelHacks.com, and I’m like, I’m still doing the presentation that way. And then later we made t-shirts that said, “Funnel Hackers” and then now we got 4 or 5 people have tattooed that to their bodies, it’s really weird. But anyway, that’s what happened.

We did that and we sold it and I remember going to dinner that night with the guys who were there, and Todd and his wife and everything. And we were all excited because we made some money finally. But I was just like, “You guys don’t understand, like I’ve spoken on a lot of stages, and I haven’t seen a table rush like that.” And I remember back, there was a guy, he passed away a couple of years ago, his name was Fred Catona. And he was a radio guy. He was the guy who did the radio commercials for, do you guys remember, it’s got the guy from Star Trek, what’s his name?

Audience member: Priceline.

Russell: Priceline. He did the Priceline radio commercials and made that guy a billionaire. And he told me when we were doing the radio ads, “This is what’s going to happen. We’re going to test your ad and if it works, I’m going to call you on the phone and let you know you’re rich. Because if it works, it means you’re going to be rich.”

So I remember going to dinner that night and I told the guys, “Just so you guys know, we’re rich.” And they’re like, “What do you mean? We made $150,000.” I’m like, “No, no, no. The way people responded to that, I’ve never seen that in my life. We’re rich.” The response rate from that, I’ve never seen.

Andrew: And then you went to webinar after webinar after webinar.

Russell: On the flight home that day I’m texting everybody I’ve ever met. “I got a hot offer, this webinar crushed it. We just closed whatever percent of the room at Filsaime’s event. Who wants to do it?” And we started filling up the calendar.

Andrew: And the idea was, and you told me you did 2 to 3 some days. And the idea was, they would sell somebody on a course, and then their members would then hear how your software and your funnel hacking technique would help up what they just bought and then they would sign up. You’re still excited, I can see it in your face. And then this thing took off. And then you started doing an event for your culture, your community, and this guy spoke, Tony Robbins.

Russell: Oh yeah, there’s Tony.

Andrew: One of the first ones. Was he at the very first one?

Russell: No, he came to the third one, was the first one we had him come to.

Andrew: Yeah? Why do an event? Why do your own live event?

Russell: So we’ve done events in the past. I know events are good, but I’d sworn off them because the last event we did, I think we sold 3 or 400 tickets and less than 100 people showed up and I was so embarrassed. I was like, “We’ll never do events again.” And as soon as this, as soon as Clickfunnels launched and it was growing, everyone’s like, “We want to do a meet up. We should do an event.” All the customers kept asking. And against my, I didn’t really want to do it, but at the same time I was launching my book, and I had won a Ferrari in this affiliate contest so I was like, “What if we did an event and we had the Ferrari there and we gave it away and then we’re…” we had other ideas for giving away other cars and it became this big, exciting thing that eventually turned into an event.

And that was the first Funnel Hacking Live event in Vegas, and we had about 600 people at that one that showed up. And that’s where it all kind of, it all started.

Andrew: And it built how much, how many people are you up to now?

Russell: Last year we had 3500 people and we’re on track to have about 5000 at this year’s event.

Andrew: 5000? Yeah.

Russell: Those aren’t free tickets. Each ticket’s $1000, so it’s….

Andrew: So how much is that in total revenue?

Russell: From the event?

Andrew: Yeah.

Russell: So ticket sales, last year was $3 ½ million, this year will be over $5. But at the event we sell coaching so last year we made $13 million in coaching sales at the event as well.

Andrew: Wow, would you come up here for a second, Dave? Do you guys know Dave? Yeah, everyone knows Dave. You know what’s amazing…

{Audience catcalls}

Andrew: That’s amazing.

Dave: I don’t know who that is.

Andrew: A catcall. I saw a video, you guys have this vlog now, a beautifully show vlog. You guys went to sales force’s conference, you’re looking at the booths and in the video, do you remember what you did as you saw the different booths?

Dave: I think that one I went and asked what the prices for each of the booths were.

Andrew: Yes, and then you multiplied. And he’s like, you’re not enjoying the event, you’re calculating ahead, how much. “10,000 that’s 100,000….” It’s like wow, right. You do this all the time?

Dave: Yeah. It’s a lot of money in an event like that.

Andrew: And you think, and if this was not your event, you would be doing the same calculation trying to figure out how much they brought in today. Wowee. Alright when you went to sales force did you calculate how much money they probably did from their event?

Dave: We were doing that the whole time, absolutely.

Andrew: You saw the building, you had to know…

Dave: Oh my gosh. 61 stories.

Andrew: Why? Why do you guys want to know that? Why does, how does that… I want to understand your drive as a company and I feel like this is a part of it. Figuring out how much money other people are making, using that for fuel somehow. Tell me.

Dave: I think it actually goes back to Russell and his wrestling days. We had the experience of going to Chicago right after that, and super just exhausted. And it was one of those things where he literally landed, we walked down and we’re underneath the tarmac and all the sudden Russell goes from just being totally exhausted to a massive state change. Where he’s literally right back where he was with his dad and he and his dad are walking that same path to go to, I think it was Nationals. And I saw Dan Usher, who was doing the filming, capturing that moment and it’s that type of a thing for Russell. Where all the sudden it’s the dream, where as soon as you see it, it can then happen. And Russell’s just been amazing at modeling, and again the whole idea as far as just going at a rapid, rapid speed. I mean it’s “Ready, fire, aim.”

Andrew: It’s not you gawking at the sales force, what’s the sales force event called?

Dave: Dream Force.

Andrew: Dream force. It’s not you gawking at how well Sales Force’s event, Dream Force is doing, it’s not you having envy or just curiosity, it’s you saying, it’s possible. This is us. That’s it.

Dave: It’s totally possible.

Andrew: It’s totally possible. We could get there. And when you’re sizing up the building, you even found out how much the building cost. Who does that? Most people go, “Where’s the bathroom?” How much does the building cost?

Dave: There’s a number.

Andrew: It’s you saying, “We could maybe have that.”

Dave: We can have that, yeah.

Andrew: Got it. And so let’s go back a little bit. I asked you about Traffic and Conversion because the very first Traffic and Conversion conference you went to, you guys were nobodies. Nobody came and saw you.

Dave: We were put out in North 40 pasture, way, way far away.

Andrew: And some people would say, “One day I’ll get there.” you told Russell, “Today we’re going to get there.”

Dave: Well Russell wanted, he was speaking and so whenever you’re speaking at an event, it’s important that you fill a room, like this. And there’s nothing worse than having an event and having no one show up. It’s just the worst feeling in the world. And so he’s like, “All we need, I gotta find some way of getting people into the event. I wish we had like some girls who could just hand out t-shirts or do something.” And I was like, we’re in San Diego, that’s like my home town.

Russell: Dave’s like, “How many do you need?” That’s all he said.

Dave: It’s just a number. It comes down to a number. How many do you want? So we ended up having, within an hour or so we had 5 girls there who were more than happy to dance around and give out t-shirts and fill the room.

Andrew: and the room was full?

Dave: Packed.

Andrew: Packed. And why wouldn’t you say, “One day, the next time we come to Traffic and Conversion, the tenth time we’re going to do it.” Why did it have to be right there?

Dave: It’s always now.  

Andrew: It’s always now.

Dave: It’s always now.

Andrew: It’s always now. It’s never going to be the next funnel, it’s never going to be the next product launch. I’m going to do whatever we can right now, and the next one, and the next one. That’s it. That’s who you are.

Dave: That’s how it works.

Andrew: And now you’re a partner in the business. $83 million so far this year, you got a piece of that.

Dave: Yes. Do i?

Russell: Yeah.

Dave: Just checking.

Andrew: Do you get to take profits home now?

Dave: We do.

Andrew: You do, you personally do?

Dave: Yes.

Andrew: Are you a millionaire?

Dave: Things are really good.

Andrew: Millionaire good from Clickfunnels?

Dave: yes.

Andrew: Really?

Dave: Yes.

Andrew: Wow. And you’re another one. I was driving and I said, “What was it about Russell that made you work for him? What was it?” and you said, “I’ve never seen anyone implement like him.” Give me an example of early days, something that he implemented…you know what, forget that, let’s not go back to Russell. As a team, you guys have gotten really good at implementing. Give me an example of one thing that you’re just stunned by, we did it, it came out of nowhere, we could have been distracted by funnel software, we could have distracted by the next book, we did this thing, what is it?

Dave: You’re here on this stage with JP, and this was what 6 weeks ago?

Andrew: and this whole thing just came from an idea I heard. You use Voxer. Why do you use Voxer?

Russell: I don’t know.

Andrew: Because you like to talk into it.

Russell: Yeah, and you can fast forward, you can listen at 4x speed, you can forward the messages to people really easily, it’s awesome.

Andrew: and it’s just train of thought, boom, here’s what I think we’re going to…No, it’s not that. I heard it’s, “I have a secret project…”

Russell: “I’ll tell you guys about it later.” And they all start freaking out. “Tell us now.”

Andrew: “Secret project. I don’t know what it, it’s going to be exciting.” They don’t know what it is, going to be excited.

Russell: Do you know how it started, this one? I was cleaning my wrestling room listening to you, and you were, I don’t know whose event it was, but you were at the campfire, it sounded like. And you were doing something like this and I was like, I want my own campfire chat to tell our story. And then I was like, “Dave, we should do it.” And now we’re here. So thanks for coming to our campfire….

Dave: That’s how it happens.

Andrew: And that’s exciting to this day. Alright, thank you. Give him a big round, thank you so much. You know what, I didn’t mean for this to come onstage, but I’m glad that it is. This made you laugh when you accidentally saw it earlier too. Why is this making you laugh? What is it?

Russell: So we’re not shy about our competitors, even when they’re our friends. So one of the companies we’re crossing out is his. That’s why it’s funny.

Andrew: It’s one of my companies. That’s Bot Academy there. It’s also a company I invest in, that octopus is ManyChat, I’ve been a very big angel investor and supporter of theirs. I’m not at all insulted by that, I’m curious about it. You guys come across as such nice, happy-go-lucky guys. Dave asked me if I want water, I said “Dave I can’t have you give me any more things. I feel uncomfortable, I’m a New Yorker. Punch me, please.” So he goes, “Okay, one more thing. I’m going to give you socks.” So he gave me socks. Really, but still, you have murder in your eyes sometimes. You’re crossing out everybody. This is part of your culture, why?

Russell: It comes back, for me its wrestling. When I was wrestling it was not, I don’t know, there’s different mentalities right. And I did a podcast on this one time and I think I offended some people, so I apologize in advance, but if you’re in a band and everyone gets together and you play together and you harmonize, it’s beautiful. When you’re a wrestler you don’t do that. You know, you walk in everyday and you’re like, those are the two guys I have to beat to be varsity. And then after you do that, you walk in and you’re like, “Okay who are the people I have to beat to be in the region champ, and then the state champ, and then the national champ?”

So for me, my entire 15 years of my life, all my focus was like, who’s the next person on the rung that I have to beat? And it’s studying and learning about them and figuring their moves and figuring out what they’re good at, what they’re bad at so we can beat them. Then we beat them and go to the next thing, and next thing, and next thing.

So it was never negative for me, it was competition. Half the guys were my friends and they were doing the same thing to me, we were doing the same thing to them. I come from a hyper competitive world where that’s everything we do. And I feel bad now, because in business, a lot of people we compete against aren’t competitive and I forget that sometimes, and some people don’t appreciate it. But that’s the drive. It’s just like, who do we, if I don’t have someone to, if there’s not someone we’re driving towards, there’s not a point for me.

Andrew: And even if they’re, even if I was hurt, “I accept it, I’m sorry you’re hurt, Andrew. I still care and love you. We’re going to crush you.” That’s still there.

Russell: And I had someone, so obviously InfusionSoft was one of our people we were targeting for a long, long time and I had a call with Clayton and someone on his team asked me, “Why do you hate Infusion Soft so much?” I was like, “I don’t, you don’t understand. I don’t hate, I love Infusion Soft. I’m grateful for it. I’m grateful for Lead Pages, I’m grateful for….” I told them, have you guys seen the Dark Knight, my favorite movie of all time? And it’s the part where Batman and the Joker are there and Batman is like, asks the Joker, “Why are you trying to kill me?” And the Joker starts laughing and he’s like, “I’m not trying to kill you. The reason I do this is because of you. If I didn’t have you, there’s no purpose behind it.”

So for me it’s like, if I don’t have someone to compete against, why are we playing the game? So for me, that’s why we’re always looking…

Andrew: It’s not enough to say, it’s not enough to just say “we’re playing the game because we want to help the next entrepreneur, or the next person who’s sick and needs to create…” no, it’s not.

Russell: That’s a big part of it, but like, there’s something…

Andrew: Yeah, but it’s not enough, it’s gotta be both.

Russell: My whole life there’s, the competition is what drives me for sure.

Andrew: And just like you’re wrestling with someone, trying to beat them, but you don’t hate them. You’re not going to their house and break it down…

Russell: Everyone we wrestled, we were friends afterwards. We were on the same Freestyle and Greco teams later in the season, but during, when we’re competing, we’re competing and everyone’s going all at it.

Andrew: Everyone’s going all at it. That’s an interesting way to end it. How much more time do we have? How much more time do we have? I’m going to keep going. Can I get you to come up here John, because I gotta get you to explain something to me?

So I told you, I was online the other day, yeah give him a big round. I was online the other day, I don’t even know what I clicked, I clicked something and then I saw that Russell’s a great webinar person, everyone keeps telling me. Well, alright, I gotta find out how he does it. So I click over, “Alright, just give your email address and you can find out how..” Alright, I’ll give my email address to find out how he became such a great webinar presenter. “Just give a credit card. It’s only $4.95, so it comes in the mail.” It comes in the mail, that’s pretty cool. Nothing comes in the mail anymore. Here’s my credit card.

It goes, “Alright, it’s going to mail it out. Would you also like to learn how to use these slides? $400.” I go, no! I’m done.

Russell: Welcome to the funnel.

Andrew: Welcome to the funnel. I’m done. But I’m going to put in Evernote a link to this page so I don’t lose it so I can come back. I swear. I did it. And this is my receipt for $4.95. Don’t you ever feel like, we’re beyond this? We’re in the software space now, we’re competing with Dropbox, we’re not competing with Joe Schmoe and his ebook. And you’re the guy who sold the, who bought the ad that got me.

John: I know.

Andrew: I asked you that. Do you ever feel a little embarrassed, “We’re still in the info market space.”?

John: No, I think it’s the essence of what we do, of what Russell does. We love education. We love teaching people. I mean, the software is like the backend, but we’re not software people. I mean, we sell software, but we teach people. All these people here and all the people at all of our events, they just want to learn how to do it better.

Andrew: I don’t believe it.

John: Okay.

Andrew: I believe in him. I don’t believe in you. I believe that for you it’s the numbers. Here’s why I don’t believe it. I’m looking in your eyes and you’re like, “I’m giving the script. I’m good, I’m doing the script.” I see it in your eyes, but when I was talking to you earlier, no offense. This is why he does what he does. When I was talking to you earlier, you told me about the numbers, the conversion, how we get you in the sales funnel, how we actually can then modify…That’s the exciting part. Don’t be insulted by the fact that I said it. Know that we have marketers here, they’re going to love you for being open about it.

What’s going on here? What’s going on, keeping you in this space?

John: Okay, from my perspective. Okay so, initially it was self liquidation on the front, which is what I was telling you. It was the fact that we were bootstrapped, we didn’t have money to just like throw out there. We had to make sure we were earning enough money to cover our ads. And Russell had all the trust in the world in me, I don’t know why he did, but he did. And he’s just like, “Spend money, and try to make it self-liquidate.” I’m like, “Okay.” So we just had to spend money and hope that we got enough back to keep spending money.

Andrew: And self-liquidate means buy an ad today and make sure that we make money from that ad right away and then software.

John: Yeah.

Andrew: And then you told, and then software’s going to pay overtime, that’s our legacy, that’s our thing. And you told me software sucks for selling. Why?

John: Software sucks, yeah.

Andrew: Why? Everyone who’s in info, everyone’s who in education says, “I wish I was a software guy. Software is eating the world, they’re getting all the risk back.” I walked through San Francisco; they think anyone who doesn’t have software in their veins is a sucker.

John: I asked the same thing to myself, you know. I was running ads, I’m like why can’t I just run ads straight to the offer? Why do I have go to these info products? I want to get on the soft…. And then I was like, I feel like it’s kind of like marriage. Like it’s a big thing to say like, “You probably already built websites, but come over, drop everything you’re doing and come over here and build websites over here on our thing.” And it’s like, that’s a hard pull. But “Hey, you want to build webinars? Here’s a little thing for $5 to build webinars.” Now you’re in our world, now we can talk to you, now you can trust us, now we can get you over there.

Andrew: Got it. Okay, and if that’s what it takes to get people in your world, you’re going to accept it, you’re not going to feel too good for that, you’re just going to do it and grow it and grow it.

John: Yeah.

Andrew: What’s your ad budget now? See now you’re eyes are lighting up. Now I tapped into it.

John: We spend about half a million a month.

Andrew: half a million a month!

John: Yeah. Don’t tell the accountant.

Andrew: Do you guys pay with a credit card? Do you have a lot of miles?

John: Yeah, we do. In fact….

Andrew: You do! How many miles?

John: In fact, the accountant came into my office the other day and said, “Next time you buy a ticket, use the miles.”

Andrew: Are they with Delta, because I think you guys flew me out with Delta.

John: Yeah, American Express is where we’re spending all our money.

Andrew: Wow. And you’re a partner too?

John: Yeah.

Andrew: Wow, congratulations.

John: Thank you.

Andrew: I don’t know you well enough to ask you if you’re a millionaire, I’m just going to say congratulations. Give him a big round.

John: Thank you.

Andrew: Wow, you know what, I actually was going to ask the videographers to come up here. I wrote their names down, I got the whole thing and I realized I shouldn’t interrupt them, because they’re shooting video. But I asked them, why are you, they had this career where they were flying all over the world shooting videos for their YouTube channel. I’m sorry, I forgot their name, and I don’t want to leave them out.

Russell: Dan and Blake.

Andrew: They were shooting YouTube videos, they were doing videos for other people. I said, “Why are you now giving it up and just working for Clickfunnels all the time? More importantly, why are you so excited about it?” And they said, “You know, it’s the way that we work with Russell.” And I said, do you remember the first time that you invited them out to shoot something? What was it?

Russell: It was the very first Funnel Hacking Live we ever had, and probably 2 weeks prior to that, one of our friends had an event and Dan had captured the footage, and he showed me the videos. “Did you check out my Ven Video?” I’m like, “Oh my gosh, that was amazing.” And I said “Who did it?” and he told me. So I emailed Dan and I was like, “Hey, can you come do that for Funnel Hacking Live?” And he’s like, “What’s Funnel Hacking Live?” So I kind of told him, and he’s like, “Sure.”

And it was like 2 weeks later and he’s like, “What’s the direction?” and I was like, “I don’t know, just bring the magic man. Whatever you did there, do that here.” And that’s kind of been his calling card since. He just comes and does stuff.

Andrew: Bring the magic. He wants to have those words painted on the Toronto office you guys are starting. Literally, because he says you say that all the time. And the idea is, I want to understand how you hire. The idea is, “I’m going to find people who do good work, and I’m going to let them do it.” What happens if they wouldn’t have done it your way? What happens if it would have gone a different direction?

Russell: I see your question, and I’m not perfect. So I’m going to caveat that by, some of the guys on my team know that I’m kind of, especially on the design and funnel stuff, I’m more picky on that, because I’m so into that and I love it. But what I’ve found is when you hire amazing people like Todd for example, doing Clickfunnels. The times I tried to do Clickfunnels prior, build it was like, me and I’m telling developers, “here’s what to do and how to do it.” And like there’s always some loss in communication.

With Todd, he’s like, “I know exactly what I would build because I want this product too.” And then he just built it and he showed me stuff. And I’m like, “That’s a good idea.” And he’s like, “I did this too.” And I’m like, “That’s a good idea.” And it’s so much easier that way. So when you find the right people, it’s not you giving them ideas, it’s them coming to you with the ideas. And you’re like, “that is a good idea. Go do it.” And it just makes, takes all the pressure off your back. So for us, and it’s been fun because I look at, man, the last 15 years of all those different websites and the ups and the downs, the best people have always stuck. So we’ve got 15 years of getting the cream of the crop.

It’s kind of like, I’m a super hero nerd, but it’s like the Avengers, at the end of, when Clickfunnels came about we had this Avenger team of people. And we’re like, now we’ve put in our dues, now it’s time to use all of our super powers to do this thing, and it all kind of came together.

Andrew: Build it and build it up. And then as you were building it up, you then went to Sales Force. You guys invited me, you said, “Hey Andrew, we’re in San Francisco, you’re home town. Do you want to come out?” I said, “I’m going to be with the family.” And you said, “Good. Being with the family is better than hanging out with us.” But I still said, “What are you guys doing in San Francisco at Sales Force?” Because sales people don’t need landing pages, yet you guys will probably find a way for them to need it.

Then I saw this, this is the last video that I’ve got. There’s no audio on it. I want you guys to look at their faces as they’re looking up at these buildings, walking through the Sales Force office. Look, they’re getting on the motorcycles in the lobby. They’re looking all around like, “Oh gee.” Counting the buildings that are Sales Force labeled. Look at that! What are they doing? Not believing that this is even possible. And then just stopping and going, this is dream force. This is your dream. What did you get out of going to sales Force’s event and seeing their office?

Russell: Honestly, prior to Sales Force, I was kind of going through a weird funk in my business, because it was like, again there was the goals. So it was like, okay, we’re going to do a million bucks, and then we did that. And then it’s like, let’s make 10 million a year. And then 50, and then this year we’ll hit a hundred. And like, what’s the next goal?  A billion, because a hundred million, 2 hundred million is not that big of a difference. And it was just kind of like, what’s the point, what’s the purpose?

We’ve grown as big as any company that I know. And then last year, Dave and Ryan had gone out there and they were telling me stories like, “There’s 170,000 businesses here.” And they were telling me all these things, and it sounded cool, but I didn’t, and they were going crazy. You have to see this so you can believe it. But there’s something about the energy about seeing something that makes it real. So this year I was like, I want to go and I want to see Benioff speak. I want to see the thing, the towers, I want to just understand it, because if I understand it, cool. Now we can reverse engineer and figure out how we can do it.

So for me it was just like seeing it. I think in anything, any, as entrepreneurs too, if you’re people believe that you can do it, you’ll do it. If you believe you can lose weight, you’ll lose 3eight. If you believe you can grow a company, and I don’t feel like I believed that the next level was possible for us until I saw it. And then I was like, oh my gosh, this is not ridiculous. Benioff’s not, none of these guys are any smarter than any of us. It’s just like, they figured out the path. It was like, okay let’s look at the path. And then let’s look at it and now we can figure out our path.

Andrew: And seeing it in person did that for you?

Russell: Oh yeah. It makes it tangible, it makes it like, it’s like your physiology feels it, versus reading a book about it or hearing about it. It’s like you see it and you experience it, and it’s like it’s tangible.

Andrew: I told you, I asked people before they came in here, “What are you looking for?” and a few of them frustrated me because they said, “I just wanted to see Russell. I just want to see the event.” I go, “Give me something I could ask a question about.” But I think they were looking for the same thing that you got out of there. And I know they got it. I’m going to ask them to come up here and ask some questions, and I want to know about the future of Clickfunnels, but first I’ve got to just acknowledge that, that we are here to just kind of pick up on that energy. That energy that got you to pick yourself back up when anyone else would have said, “I’m a failure of a husband, I can’t do this.” Go back.

The tension that came from failing and almost going to jail as you said, from failing and succeeding, and failing again. And still, that is inspiring to see. I want to give the whole Clickfunnels family a big round of applause, please everybody.

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]]> 1814 no ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 2 of 4 (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/clickfunnels-startup-story-part-2-of-4-revisited Enjoy part two of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Alright everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope yesterday you enjoyed part one of the Clickfunnels start up story interview at the Dry Bar Comedy Club with Andrew. I love the way he interviews. I hope you’re enjoying it as well. So we are going to dive right into part 2 of 4 from this interview. And again, if you’re liking these interviews please, please, please take a snapshot on your phone, post it on Facebook, Instagram or wherever you do your posting and tag me in it and use hashtag marketing secrets so I can see that you’re talking about it. I’d appreciate it. With that said, we’re going to queue up the theme song, when we come back we’ll start in on part 2 of the interview of the Clickfunnels start up story. Andrew: You know what, I’ve talked to a few of your people because they’re so good, that Dave could really be a leader on his own, start his own company, he’s got his own online reputation, the whole thing. I keep asking him, “Why do you work for Russell? What is it that lets you be second to Russell who’s getting all the attention?” And I’ve got some answers and would you mind coming up here and in a second I’m going to ask you. No, come back here and I’ll just bring you up in a second. Actually, you know what, it looks like you can come pretty fast. I thought that it would be a little bit more, I thought it would be more of a thing to get mics on people. And I realized if Collette can do it…. Okay honestly, dig down deep. Why did you want to stick with him? Brent: Through all that stuff? Andrew: Yeah. Brent: I don’t know. My heart was just racing. As he started telling that story, it just makes me sick to my stomach. As you scroll down and look at all those businesses of, for years, every 30 days it was a new business launch, it was crazy. Always why I stuck with him is, you know, Collette mentioned that spirit. He’s absolutely different than anybody else I’ve ever met in my entire life, a friend…. Andrew: Of what? Give me an example. Let’s be more specific. Back then, not today, he’s got this track record, adoring fans, I asked him to do an interview, everyone wants him on his podcast. Back then when it wasn’t going so well. Give me an example that let you know this is a guy who’s going to figure it out eventually, and I could possibly go down, watch him go to jail, but I believe that it’s going to go up. Brent: Well, at the time when things are crashing, I saw him as the income stopped. And he had started a program that he loves, obviously wrestling, and he brought an Olympic wrestling coach to Boise and he brought all these amazing wrestlers to Boise and he wanted them to be able to train and get to the Olympics, he wanted to help them get there and live their dream. And you know, he was supplementing, at the time the business was paying for these guys to do a little bit of work for us, they weren’t doing very much for us. But I saw him out of his own pocket, be paying for these guys. And I knew how hard he wanted to support them. And there was a day when my wife and I, we were struggling because I just, I was concerned about him financially because he was supplementing and trying to keep this business afloat, and we talked about things and I came into the office one day and I asked if I could talk to him and sat down, and kind of spoke in language that I normally don’t speak in, I might have dropped a bomb or two. It was, I was so concerned I pretty much told him, I can’t keep doing this, I can’t keep watching you every month pulling the money that you saved for your family to try keep jobs for other people. I said, I’ll leave if that helps you. And the fact that he stuck with people, that was the true character of who he is. Andrew: He kept paying your salary, kept sticking with you, and also constantly launching things. Brent: Absolutely. Andrew: That you’ve never seen anyone implement like him. Brent: You know some people call it faith or belief. He has this inherit belief that he can truly change people’s lives. Andrew: That’s it, even when he wasn’t fully in control of his own. Alright thanks. Thanks for, give him a big round of applause, thanks for being up here. I feel like this is the thing that helped get you out of trouble and potentially, and getting out of potential jail. What is this business that you created? Russell: So we, during the time of that and this there was time, probably a year and a half-two years that we were trying all sorts of stuff. And again, marginal success on a lot of them, nothing like….and this was the one, we actually, this is before….I’ve done a lot of webinars and speaking from seminars and stuff like that, but this is right when auto webinars were coming out and Mike Filsaime had just done an auto webinar and a couple of people, and I felt like that was going to be the future thing. So we’re like, what do we do the webinar on? We didn’t know. And we flew out to Ryan Deiss and Perry Belcher’s office for two days and picked their brains, went to Rich Schefren’s office for a day. And then on the flight home, I’m just like sick to my stomach. I couldn’t figure out what’s the thing that we could serve people the most right now. And on the flight home I was like, all the internet marketing stuff we do works for internet marketers, but we’re way better at like local business. Like if a chiropractor implements like two things it works. Or if a dentist does it. But I was like, I don’t want to be the guy going to dentists, but we could be the backbone for that. What if we created an opportunity where people could come in, we train them, and we connect them with the right tools and resources, and then they could go and sell to chiropractors and dentists. And that’s what the idea was. We turned it into an offer called Dotcom Secrets Local, it was a thousand dollar offer at the time. Did the auto webinar for it, and it launched and within 90 days it had done over a million dollars, which covered payroll taxes and then got us out of debt to the point now we could stop and dream again, and believe again and try to figure out what we really wanted to do. Andrew: Dotcom Secrets Local to a million dollars within 90 days. And how did you find the people who were going to sign up for this. A lot of us will have landing pages like this, we’ll have these funnels. How did you get people in this funnel? Russell: And this was pre-Facebook too, so it wasn’t just like go turn Facebook ads on. But you know, one thing that happened over all the years prior to this, I’d met a lot of people and go to a lot of events and get to know everybody. And everyone I met, you know, you meet a lot of people who have lists, they have followings, they have different things like that. I just got to know them really, really well. And in the past I’d promote a lot of their products, they’d promote my products. So we had this one and we did it first to my list, and it did really well. So I then I then called them and I’m like, “Okay, I did this webinar to my list, these are the numbers, it did awesome. Do you want to do it to your list as well?” and they’re like, “Oh sure. Sounds like a great offer.” We did that list and it did good for them too. And we told the next person and then, if you have a webinar, it’s kind of like the speaking circuit, if you’re good at speaking then people will put you all over the place. Same thing, if you have a webinar that converts, then it’s easy to get a lot of people to do it. So as soon as that one worked and it converted well, then people lined up and we kept doing it, doing it, and doing it, and it was really quick to get to that spot pretty quick. Andrew: I went on Facebook recently and I saw webinar slides from Russell Brunson, I went to the landing page, Clickfunnels page and I signed up and I’ll talk about it maybe later, but I bought it and I know other people did. And I’ve seen other people say, “Russell’s webinar technique is the thing that just works.” I’m wondering how did you figure it out? How did you come across this and how did you build it and make it work? Russell: Yeah, so rewind back probably ten years prior to this, when I was first learning this whole business. I went to my very first internet marketing seminar ever, it was Armand Morin’s Big Seminar. Did you ever go to Big Seminar? Anyway, I went to it and I had no idea what to expect. I thought it was going to be like, I showed up with my laptop and I was going to like, I thought we were a bunch of geeks going to do computer stuff. And the first person got onstage and started speaking and at the end of it he sold like a two thousand dollar thing. And I’d never seen this before. I saw people jumping up and running to the back of the room to buy it. And I’m like this little 23 year old kid and I was counting the people in the back of the room, doing the math, you know doing the math and I’m like, that guy made 60 thousand dollars in an hour. And the next guy gets up and does his presentation and I watch this for three days and I was like, I’m super shy and introverted, but that skill is worth learning. If someone can walk on a stage and make 100,000 dollars in an hour, I need to learn how to do that. So I started that. And it was really bad for the first probably 8 or 9 months. I tried to do it. I’d go to places and I just, I couldn’t figure it out. And then I started asking the people who were good because you go there and all the speakers kind of talk and hang out, and I’d watch the ones that always had the people in the back of the room. And I’d ask them questions, I’m like, ‘What did I do wrong? I feel like I’m teaching the best stuff possible.’ And they’re like, ‘That’s the problem, it’s not about teaching, it’s about stories, telling stories and breaking beliefs.” So for about the next two years I was about once a month flying somewhere to speak, and then when I would go I would meet all the speakers and find out what they were doing and I’d watch them and I’d take notes on the different things they were saying and how they were saying it. And then I kept taking my presentation and tweaking it, and tweaking it, and tweaking it. And you know, now 12 years later, I’ve done so many webinars, it kind of worked. The process works now. Andrew: You are a really good story teller and I’ve seen you do that. I’ve seen you do it, and I know you’re going to do it even more. What I’m curious about is the belief system that you were saying, breaking people’s…what was it that you said? Russell: False beliefs. Andrew: Breaking people’s false beliefs. How do you understand what, like as you look at this audience, do you understand what some of our false beliefs are? Russell: If I knew what I was selling I could figure out for sure. Andrew: If you knew what you were selling. Alright we’re selling this belief that entrepreneurship does work. And I know we’re all going to go through a period like some of the ones that you had where things just aren’t’ working, other people aren’t believing in us, almost failure, what is at that point, the belief system that we have to work on? What do you recognize in people here? Russell: So usually there’s three core beliefs that people have. The first is about the opportunity itself right. So like with entrepreneurship, the first belief that people have is could I actually be an entrepreneur? And some people who actually believe that, they’re like, I’m in. And that’s an easy one. But for those who don’t there’s a reason and usually it’s like, they saw a parent that tried to do it. And the parent tried to be an entrepreneur and wasn’t able to and they saw that failure. Or they’d tried it in the past and they failed or whatever it is. So it’s showing them that even if you tried in the past and showed different ways, let me tell you a story. And for me, I could show 800 different failures. But eventually you get better and you get better until eventually you have the thing that actually works. So I tell a story to kind of show that, to make them believe that, oh my gosh maybe I just need to try a couple more times. And then the second level of beliefs is like beliefs about themselves like, I’m sure it works for you, Russell or Andrew but not for me because I’m different. It’s helping them figure out their false beliefs, and if you can break that, then the third one is like, then they always want to blame somebody else. “I could lose lots of weight but my wife buys lots of cupcakes and candy. So I could do it, but because of that I can’t.” So then it’s like figuring out how you break the beliefs of the external people that are going to keep them. Andrew: And how would you know what that is? How would you know who the external influencers are, that your potential customers are worried about? Russell: I think for most of us it’s because the thing that we’re selling is something that, one of our, Nick Barely said “Our mess becomes our message.” For most of us, what we’re selling is the thing we struggled with before. So I think back about me as 12 year old Russell, watching Don Lepre, like what would have kept me back? And I would have been like, I can’t afford classified ads. Like if you showed me how I can, if you could tell me a story of, oh my gosh I could afford classified ads. Now that belief’s gone and now I’m going to go give you money. It’s just kind of remembering back to the state that you were in when you were trying to figure this stuff out as well. Andrew: Who was who I met when we were coming in here that said that they were part of Russell’s mastermind and I asked how much did you pay and he said, “I’m not telling you.” I can’t see who that person was. But I know you got a mastermind, people coming in. I’m wondering how much of it comes from that? working with people directly, seeing them in the group share openly, and then saying, ah, this is what my potential customers are feeling? Russell: 100% At this point especially. People always ask me, “Where do you go, Russell, to learn stuff?” and it’s my mastermind, because I bring, all the people come in and they’re all in different industries and you see that. You see the road blocks that hold people back, but then they also share the stuff that they’re doing and it’s like, that’s 100% now where I get most of my intell. Because people ask me, “Why, you’re a software company, why in the world do you have a mastermind group?” And it’s because the reason why our software is good is because we have the mastermind group, where they’re all crowd sourcing, they’re doing all this stuff and bringing back to us, and then we’re able to make shifts and pivots based on that. Andrew: Somehow we just lost Apple, but that’s okay. It’s back, good. There we go. This is the next thing, Rippln. Russell: I forgot I put that one in there. Andrew: I went back and I watched the YouTube video explaining it. It’s a cartoon. I thought it was a professional voice over artist, no it’s you. You’re really comfortable getting on stage and talking. But basically in that video that you guys can see in the top left of your screen, it’s Russell, through this voice over and cartoon explaining, “Look, you guys were around in the early days of Facebook, you told your friends, here’s how many friends you would have had, for the sake of numbers, let’s say you told 7 people and let’s say they told 7 people, and that’s how things spread. And the same thing happened with Pinterest and all these other sites. Don’t you ever wish that instead of making them rich by telling stuff, you made yourself rich? Well here’s how Rippln comes in.” and then you created it. And Rippln was what? Russell: So Rippln was actually one of my friend’s ideas, and he is a network marketing guy so he’s like, “We’re building a network marketing program.” And I’d like dabbled in network marketing, never been involved with it. And he came and was like, “Hey, be part of this.” And I was like, “No.” and then he sold us on the whole pitch of the idea, network marketers are really good at selling you on vision, and I was like, “Okay, that sounds awesome.” And then my role was to write the pitch. So I wrote the pitch, did the voice over, did the video, and then we launched it and we had in six weeks, it was like 1.5 million people signed up for Rippln, and I thought it was like, “This is the thing, I’m done.” My down line was like half of the company. And I was like, when this thing goes live, it’s going to be amazing. And then the tech side of it, what we’re promising people in this video that the main developer ended up dying and he had all the code. So they had to restart building it in the middle of this thing. And it was like thing after thing and by the time it finally got done, everyone had lost interest. It was like 8 months later, and I think the biggest check I got was like $47 for the whole thing. And I was just like, I spent like 6 months of my life. It was like a penny a day. It was horrible. Andrew: I’m just wondering whether I should ask this or not. Russell: Go for it. Andrew: So I stopped asking about religion, but I get the sense that you believe that there’s a spiritual element here that keeps you from seeing, my down line is growing, the whole thing is working. Is any of this, does it feel divinely inspired to you? Be honest. Russell: Business or…? Andrew: Business, life, success, things working out, so much so that when you’re at your lowest, you feel like there’s some divine guidance, some divine hand that says, “Russell, it’s going to work out. Russell, I don’t know if I got you, but I know you got this. Go do it.” I feel that from you and I… Russell: I 100% believe that. Andrew: You do? Russell: Every bit of it. I believe that God gives us talents and gifts and abilities and then watches what we do with it. And if we do good then he increases our capacity to do more. And if we do good with it, increases our capacity… Andrew: if you earn it? If you do good, if you use what God gives you, then you get more. So you think that that is your duty to do that and if you don’t do more, if you don’t pick yourself up after Rippln, you’ve let down God. Do you believe that? Is that it? Or that you haven’t lived up to… Russell: Yeah, I don’t think I feel that I’ve let down God, but I definitely feel like I haven’t lived up to my potential, you know. But also I feel like a lot of stuff, as I was putting together that document, all the pages, it’s interesting because each one of them, looking in hindsight, each built upon the next thing and the next thing. And there’s twice we tried to build Clickfunnels and each one was like the next level, and each one was a stepping stone. Like Rippln, if I wouldn’t have done Rippln, that was my very first viral video we ever created. I learned how to pitch things and when we did the Clickfunnels initial sales video, because I had done this one, I knew how to do this one. So for me, it’s less of like I let down God, as much as like, it’s just like the piece, what are you going to do with this? Are you going to do something with it? It doesn’t mean it’s going to be successful, but it means, if you do well with this, then we’re going to increase your capacity for the next step, and the next thing. But we definitely, especially in times at the office, we talk about this a lot. We definitely feel that what we do is a spiritual mission. Andrew: You do? Russell: 100% yeah. I don’t think that it’s just like, we’re lucky. I think the way that the people have come, the partnerships, how it was created is super inspired. Andrew: You know what, a lot of us are selling things that are software, PDF guide, this, that, it’s really hard to find the bigger mission in it. You’re finding the bigger mission in Funnels. What is that bigger mission? Really, how do you connect with it? Because you’re right, if you can find that bigger meaning then the work becomes more meaningful and you’re working with become, it’s more exciting to work with them, more meaningful to do it. How did you find it in funnels? What is the meaning? Russell: So for us, and I’m thinking about members in my inner circle, so right now as of today I think we had 68,000 members in Clickfunnels, which is the big number we all brag about. But for me, that’s 68,000 entrepreneurs, each one has a gift. So I think about, one member I’ll mention his name’s Chris Wark, he runs chrisbeatcancer.com and Chris was someone who came down with cancer and was given a death sentence, and instead of going through chemo therapy he decided, ‘I’m going to see if I can heal myself.” And he did. Cleared himself of cancer. And then instead of just being like, ‘cool, I’m going to go back into work.’ He was like, ‘Man I need to help other people.’ So he started a blog and started doing some things, and now he’s got this thing where he’s helped thousands and thousands of people to naturally cure themselves of cancer. And that’s one of our 68,000 people. Andrew: See, you’re focusing on him where I think a lot of us would focus on, here’s one person who’s just a smarmy marketer, and here’s who’s creating….but you don’t. That’s not who you are. Look, I see it in your eyes and you’re shaking your head. That’s not it at all, it’s not even a put on. Russell: It’s funny because for me it’s like, I understand because I get it all the time from people all the time, “Oh he’s this slimy marketer.” The first time people meet me, all the time, the first time their introduced, that’s a lot of times the first impression. And they get closer and they feel the heart and it’s just like, “oh my gosh, I had you wrong.” I get that all the time from people. Andrew: Brian, sorry Ryan and Brad, are either of them here? Would one of you come up here? Yeah, come on up. Because they felt that way, right? Russell: I don’t know about them. I know who you’re thinking about. Audience member: I think it’s Theron. {Crosstalk} Andrew: No, no stay up here, as long as you’re here. Theron come on up. Audience member: If it wasn’t me, then I’m going to sit back in the seats. Andrew: Are you nervous? Audience member: A little bit. Is there another Ryan and Brad? Russell: Different story, another story. Do you want to come up? Theron had no idea we were bringing him onstage. Andrew: Come on over here. Let’s stand in the center so we can get you on camera. Does this help? Russell: Do you want me to introduce Theron real quick? Andrew: Yeah, please. Russell: So Theron is one of the Harmon Brothers, they’re the ones who did the viral video for us. Andrew: I heard that you felt that he was a scam. What was the situation and how did you honestly feel? Theron: I don’t know that it…well… Russell: Be honest. Theron: I know, I don’t think that I felt that Clickfunnels itself was a scam, Russell: Just Russell. Theron: But that it just felt like so many of the ways that the funnels were built and the types of language they were using, it felt like it was that side of the internet. So I became very, well basically we were kind of in a desperate situation, where we had a video that had not performed and not worked out the way we wanted it to work out. Andrew: The video that you created for Russell? Theron: No, another client. Andrew: Another client, okay. Theron: And so our CEO had used Clickfunnels product to help drive, I think it was attendance to a big video event. And so he had some familiarity with the product, so he goes to Russell and at the same time Russell’s like, “I’m a big fan of you guys.” So he’s coming to us and these things are happening. Yeah, it was almost the same day. So we’re thinking like this and we’re like, “Well, they seem to really know how to drive traffic, to really know how to drive conversion. And we feellike we know how to drive conversion as well, but for some reason we missed it on this one.” So we’re like, “Well, let’s do a deal.” Andrew: What do you mean missed it? Okay, go ahead, go through to the end. Theron: We were failing our client. We were failing on our client. We weren’t giving them and ROI. So we said, let’s do a deal with Russell and we’ll have our internal team compete with his team, and we’re humble enough to say we’re failing our client. We want our client to succeed, let’s bring in their team and see if they can make a funnel that can bring down the cost for acquisition, bring up the return on investment for our client, and they were able to do it.  And then we said, what we’ll do is we’ll write a script, we’ll take you through our script writing process, but we don’t want to do the video because we don’t want to be affiliated with you. Russell: The contract said, “You can’t tell anyone ever that the Harmon Brothers wrote the script for you.” Andrew: Wow, because you didn’t want to be associated with something that you thought was a little too scammy for… Theron: Yeah, we just didn’t want our brand kind of brought down to their brand, which is super arrogant and really wrong headed. And in any case, so we go into this script writing training, and I wasn’t following his podcast, I wasn’t listening to enough. I mean, read Dotcom Secrets, those kinds of things are like, well, there’s some really valuable stuff there, this is really interesting. A nd then as we got to know each other and really start to connect, like you said, heart to heart. And to feel what he’s really about, and the types of team, the people that he surrounds himself with, I was like, wow, these are really, really good people. And they have a mission here that they feel, just like we feel that about our own group. And in any case, by the end of that 2 day retreat we’re like, all off in private saying, “First of all we like what we’ve written and second of all, we’d really like to work with these guys and I think we’re plenty happy being connected to them and associated with them.” So it’s been a ride and a blessing ever since. Russell: We’re about to start video number two with them. Andrew: You what? Russell: We’re about to start video number two with them right now. Theron: Anyway, we love them. Andrew: Alright, give him a big round, yeah. Thanks. This was pivotal for you guys. Lead Pages, there’s an article about how Lead Pages raised $5 million, and you saw that and you thought… Russell: Well, what happened was Todd, so Todd’s the cofounder of Clickfunnels, and he was working with us at the time and he would fly to Boise about once a quarter and we’d work on the next project, the new idea. And that morning he woke up and he saw that, and then he forwarded me the article. And he’s Atlanta, so it’s east coast, so I’m still in bed. And he’s got a 4 hour flight to Boise and he’s just getting angry, because Todd is, Todd’s like a genius. He literally, when he landed in Boise and he saw me and he’s like, “We can build Lead Pages tonight. I will clone, I will beat it. We’re going to launch this, this week while we’re here.” He’s that good of a developer. He, I’ve never seen someone code as fast and as good as him. He’s amazing. So he comes in, he’s mad because he’s like, “This is the stupidest site in the world. We could literally clone this. Let’s just do it.” And I’m like, “Yes, let’s clone it.” And we’re all excited and then he’s like, “Do you want me to add any other features while I’m doing it.” And I’m like, ‘Oh, yes. We should do this, and we should do this.” And then the scope creep from the marketer comes, and we ended up spending an entire week in front of a whiteboard mapping out all my dreams, “If we could do this and this and what kind of shopping cart, and we could do upsells, and what if we could actually move things on the page instead of just having it sit there. And what if…” and Todd’s just taking notes and everything. And then he’s like, “Okay, I think I could do this.” And he told me though, “If I do this, I don’t want to do this as an employee. I want to do this as a partner.” And at first I was like, ugh, because I didn’t want to do the partnership thing. And then the best decision I’ve ever made in my life, outside of marrying my wife was saying yes to Todd. Said, “Let’s do it.” And then he flew home and built Clickfunnels. Andrew: Wow. And this is after trying software so much. I have screenshots of all the different, it’s not even worth going into it, of all the different products you created, there was one about, it was digital repo, right? Russell: That was a good idea. Andrew: Digital Repo, man. What was…. Russell: So I used to sell ebooks and stuff, and people would steal it and email it to their friends and I’d get angry. Andrew: Can I read this? How to protect every type of lowlife and other form of human scum from cheating you from the profits you should be making by hijacking, stealing, and illegally prostituting….your online digital products. Russell: Theron, why did you think we were…..Just kidding. So no, it was this really cool product where you take an ebook and it would protect it, and if somebody gave it to their friend, you could push a button and it would take back access. It was like the coolest thing in the world, we thought. Andrew: And there was software that was going to attach your ad to any other software that was out there. There was software that was going to, what are some of the other ones? It’s going to hit me later on. But we’re talking about a dozen different pieces of software, a dozen different attempts at software. What’s one? I thought somebody remembered one of them. They’re just the kind of stuff you’d never think of. There was one that was kind of like Clickfunnels, an early version of Clickfunnels for landing pages. Why did you want to get into software when you were teaching, creating membership sites? What was software, what was drawing you to it? Russell: I think honestly, when I first learned this internet marketing game, the first mentor I had, the first person I saw was a guy name Armand Morin and Armand had all these little software products. Ecover generator, sales letter generator, everything generator, so that’s what I kept seeing. I was like, I need to create software because he made software. In fact, I even shifted my major from, I can’t remember what it was before, to computer information systems, because I was like, I’m going to learn how to code, because I couldn’t afford programmers. And then that’s just kind of what I’d seen. And then I was trying to think of ideas for software. And every time I would get stuck, instead of trying to find something to do, I’d be like let me just, let me just hire a guy to go build that, and then I can sell it somebody else as well. So that’s kind of how it started. Andrew: And it was a lot of different tools, a lot of different attempts, and then this one was the one that you went with. I think this is an early version of the home page, basically saying, “Coming soon, sign up.” The first one didn’t work out. And then you saw someone else on a forum who had a version that was better. What was his name? This is I think Dylan Jones. Russell: Oh you’re talking about the editor, yes. Okay, so the story was, Todd built the first version of Clickfunnels and Dylan who became one of our cofounders, I’d been working with Dylan as a designer for about 6 years prior. And he his hands, and we talked about this earlier, he is the best designer I’ve ever seen in my life, he is amazing. He would, but he’s also, this is the pros and cons of Dylan. He, I’ve talked about this onstage at Funnel Hacking Live, so I have no problem saying this. He would agree. But I would give him a project, and I couldn’t hear, he wouldn’t respond back to me, and I wouldn’t hear from him for 2 or 3 months, and then one day in the middle of the night he messaged me, “Hey, rent’s due tomorrow. Do you have any projects for me?” and I’d be so mad at him, and I look back at every project we’d done in the last 3 or 4 months that other designers had done, and I’d just resend him all the lists, just boom, give him 12 sites and I’d go to bed. I’d wake up 5 or 6 hours later and all of them were done, perfectly, amazing, some of the best designs ever, and then he’d send me a bill for whatever, and then I’d send him money and he’d disappear again for like 5 months. And I could never get a hold of him. I’d be like, “I need you to tweak something.” And he was just gone. And that was my pattern for 6 years with him. And then fast forward to when Todd and I were building Clickfunnels, we were at Traffic Conversion and we were up in the hotel room at like 3 in the morning trying to, we were on dribble.com trying to find a UI designer to help us, and we couldn’t get a hold of all these people, and all the sudden on Skype Dylan popped in, I saw his thing pop up. I was like, “Todd, Dylan just showed up.” And he’s like, “Do you think he needs some money?” I’m like, “I guarantee he needs money.” So I’m like, “Hey man!” And Dylan messaged back. He’s like, “Hey.” I’m like, “Do you need some money?” and he’s like, “Yeah, you got any projects?” I’m like, “Yes, I do.” I’m like, “We built this cool thing, it’s called Clickfunnels, but the UI is horrible and the editor is horrible and there’s any way we could hire you for a week to fly to Boise and just do all the UI for every single page of the app?” and he kind of said no at first because, “I’m developing my own website builder. I might have spent 6 years on it, so I can’t do it.” Andrew: It was this, he had something that was essentially Clickfunnels, right? Russell: No, no. It was just pages though, so it’d just do pages, there was no funnels. Andrew: Right, closer to Lead Pages. Russell: Lead Pages, but amazing. You could move things around. But he did tell me that, “I’m working on something.” So eventually we got him to come, flew to Boise, spent a week, did all of our UI, and then we went and launched our beta to my list. So we launched the beta, got some signups, and then a week before the launch, launch was supposed to happen, all the affiliates were lined up, everything was supposed to happen. He sends me, I don’t know if he sent you the video, but he sends me this little video that’s like a 30 second video of him demoing the editor he’d built. And I probably watched that video, I don’t know, at least a hundred times. And I was just sick to my stomach because I was like, “I hate Clickfunnels right now. I can’t move things on my pages, I can’t do anything.” I was just, and I sent it to Todd and then I didn’t hear from him for like an hour, and he messaged me back and he’s like, “I’m pissed.” I’m like, “Me too.” And I’m like, “What do we do?” and I was like, “We have to have his editor or I don’t even want to sell this thing.” And I called Dylan and I’m like, “Would you be willing to sell?” and he’s like, “No, I’m selling it and we’re going to sell it for $100.” It was like $100 this one time for this editor that designed all the websites. I was like, “Dude, it is worth so much more than that. Please?” and we spent all night going back and forth negotiating. And finally, we came to like, “I will give you this editor if I can be a cofounder and be a partner.” And Todd and I sat there, brainstorming and figured out if we could do it and finally said yes. And then him and Dylan and Todd flew back to Boise and for the next week just sat in a room with a whole bunch of caffeine and figured out how to smush Dylan’s editor into Clickfunnels to get the editor to be the editor that you guys know today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0000 ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 2 of 4 (Revisited!) full 439 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy part two of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Alright... Enjoy part two of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Alright everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope yesterday you enjoyed part one of the Clickfunnels start up story interview at the Dry Bar Comedy Club with Andrew. I love the way he interviews. I hope you’re enjoying it as well. So we are going to dive right into part 2 of 4 from this interview. And again, if you’re liking these interviews please, please, please take a snapshot on your phone, post it on Facebook, Instagram or wherever you do your posting and tag me in it and use hashtag marketing secrets so I can see that you’re talking about it. I’d appreciate it. With that said, we’re going to queue up the theme song, when we come back we’ll start in on part 2 of the interview of the Clickfunnels start up story. Andrew: You know what, I’ve talked to a few of your people because they’re so good, that Dave could really be a leader on his own, start his own company, he’s got his own online reputation, the whole thing. I keep asking him, “Why do you work for Russell? What is it that lets you be second to Russell who’s getting all the attention?” And I’ve got some answers and would you mind coming up here and in a second I’m going to ask you. No, come back here and I’ll just bring you up in a second. Actually, you know what, it looks like you can come pretty fast. I thought that it would be a little bit more, I thought it would be more of a thing to get mics on people. And I realized if Collette can do it…. Okay honestly, dig down deep. Why did you want to stick with him? Brent: Through all that stuff? Andrew: Yeah. Brent: I don’t know. My heart was just racing. As he started telling that story, it just makes me sick to my stomach. As you scroll down and look at all those businesses of, for years, every 30 days it was a new business launch, it was crazy. Always why I stuck with him is, you know, Collette mentioned that spirit. He’s absolutely different than anybody else I’ve ever met in my entire life, a friend…. Andrew: Of what? Give me an example. Let’s be more specific. Back then, not today, he’s got this track record, adoring fans, I asked him to do an interview, everyone wants him on his podcast. Back then when it wasn’t going so well. Give me an example that let you know this is a guy who’s going to figure it out eventually, and I could possibly go down, watch him go to jail, but I believe that it’s going to go up. Brent: Well, at the time when things are crashing, I saw him as the income stopped. And he had started a program that he loves, obviously wrestling, and he brought an Olympic wrestling coach to Boise and he brought all these amazing wrestlers to Boise and he wanted them to be able to train and get to the Olympics, he wanted to help them get there and live their dream. And you know, he was supplementing, at the time the business was paying for these guys to do a little bit of work for us, they weren’t doing very much for us. But I saw him out of his own pocket, be paying for these guys. And I knew how hard he wanted to support them. And there was a day when my wife and I, we were struggling because I just, I was concerned about him financially because he was supplementing and trying to keep this business afloat, and we talked about things and I came into the office one day and I asked if I could talk to him and sat down, and kind of spoke in language that I normally don’t speak in, I might have dropped a bomb or two. It was, I was so concerned I pretty much told him, I can’t keep doing this, I can’t keep watching you every month pulling the money that you saved for your family to try keep jobs for other people. I said, I’ll leave if that helps you. And the fact that he stuck with people, that was the true character of who he is. Andrew: He kept paying your salary, kept sticking with you, and also constantly launching things. Brent: Absolutely. Andrew: That you’ve never seen anyone implement like him. Brent: You know some people call it faith or belief. He has this inherit belief that he can truly change people’s lives. Andrew: That’s it, even when he wasn’t fully in control of his own. Alright thanks. Thanks for, give him a big round of applause, thanks for being up here. I feel like this is the thing that helped get you out of trouble and potentially, and getting out of potential jail. What is this business that you created? Russell: So we, during the time of that and this there was time, probably a year and a half-two years that we were trying all sorts of stuff. And again, marginal success on a lot of them, nothing like….and this was the one, we actually, this is before….I’ve done a lot of webinars and speaking from seminars and stuff like that, but this is right when auto webinars were coming out and Mike Filsaime had just done an auto webinar and a couple of people, and I felt like that was going to be the future thing. So we’re like, what do we do the webinar on? We didn’t know. And we flew out to Ryan Deiss and Perry Belcher’s office for two days and picked their brains, went to Rich Schefren’s office for a day. And then on the flight home, I’m just like sick to my stomach. I couldn’t figure out what’s the thing that we could serve people the most right now. And on the flight home I was like, all the internet marketing stuff we do works for internet marketers, but we’re way better at like local business. Like if a chiropractor implements like two things it works. Or if a dentist does it. But I was like, I don’t want to be the guy going to dentists, but we could be the backbone for that. What if we created an opportunity where people could come in, we train them, and we connect them with the right tools and resources, and then they could go and sell to chiropractors and dentists. And that’s what the idea was. We turned it into an offer called Dotcom Secrets Local, it was a thousand dollar offer at the time. Did the auto webinar for it, and it launched and within 90 days it had done over a million dollars, which covered payroll taxes and then got us out of debt to the point now we could stop and dream again, and believe again and try to figure out what we really wanted to do. Andrew: Dotcom Secrets Local to a million dollars within 90 days. And how did you find the people who were going to sign up for this. A lot of us will have landing pages like this, we’ll have these funnels. How did you get people in this funnel? Russell: And this was pre-Facebook too, so it wasn’t just like go turn Facebook ads on. But you know, one thing that happened over all the years prior to this, I’d met a lot of people and go to a lot of events and get to know everybody. And everyone I met, you know, you meet a lot of people who have lists, they have followings, they have different things like that. I just got to know them really, really well. And in the past I’d promote a lot of their products, they’d promote my products. So we had this one and we did it first to my list, and it did really well. So I then I then called them and I’m like, “Okay, I did this webinar to my list, these are the numbers, it did awesome. Do you want to do it to your list as well?” and they’re like, “Oh sure. Sounds like a great offer.” We did that list and it did good for them too. And we told the next person and then, if you have a webinar, it’s kind of like the speaking circuit, if you’re good at speaking then people will put you all over the place. Same thing, if you have a webinar that converts, then it’s easy to get a lot of people to do it. So as soon as that one worked and it converted well, then people lined up and we kept doing it, doing it, and doing it, and it was really quick to get to that spot pretty quick. Andrew: I went on Facebook recently and I saw webinar slides from Russell Brunson, I went to the landing page, Clickfunnels page and I signed up and I’ll talk about it maybe later, but I bought it and I know other people did. And I’ve seen other people say, “Russell’s webinar technique is the thing that just works.” I’m wondering how did you figure it out? How did you come across this and how did you build it and make it work? Russell: Yeah, so rewind back probably ten years prior to this, when I was first learning this whole business. I went to my very first internet marketing seminar ever, it was Armand Morin’s Big Seminar. Did you ever go to Big Seminar? Anyway, I went to it and I had no idea what to expect. I thought it was going to be like, I showed up with my laptop and I was going to like, I thought we were a bunch of geeks going to do computer stuff. And the first person got onstage and started speaking and at the end of it he sold like a two thousand dollar thing. And I’d never seen this before. I saw people jumping up and running to the back of the room to buy it. And I’m like this little 23 year old kid and I was counting the people in the back of the room, doing the math, you know doing the math and I’m like, that guy made 60 thousand dollars in an hour. And the next guy gets up and does his presentation and I watch this for three days and I was like, I’m super shy and introverted, but that skill is worth learning. If someone can walk on a stage and make 100,000 dollars in an hour, I need to learn how to do that. So I started that. And it was really bad for the first probably 8 or 9 months. I tried to do it. I’d go to places and I just, I couldn’t figure it out. And then I started asking the people who were good because you go there and all the speakers kind of talk and hang out, and I’d watch the ones that always had the people in the back of the room. And I’d ask them questions, I’m like, ‘What did I do wrong? I feel like I’m teaching the best stuff possible.’ And they’re like, ‘That’s the problem, it’s not about teaching, it’s about stories, telling stories and breaking beliefs.” So for about the next two years I was about once a month flying somewhere to speak, and then when I would go I would meet all the speakers and find out what they were doing and I’d watch them and I’d take notes on the different things they were saying and how they were saying it. And then I kept taking my presentation and tweaking it, and tweaking it, and tweaking it. And you know, now 12 years later, I’ve done so many webinars, it kind of worked. The process works now. Andrew: You are a really good story teller and I’ve seen you do that. I’ve seen you do it, and I know you’re going to do it even more. What I’m curious about is the belief system that you were saying, breaking people’s…what was it that you said? Russell: False beliefs. Andrew: Breaking people’s false beliefs. How do you understand what, like as you look at this audience, do you understand what some of our false beliefs are? Russell: If I knew what I was selling I could figure out for sure. Andrew: If you knew what you were selling. Alright we’re selling this belief that entrepreneurship does work. And I know we’re all going to go through a period like some of the ones that you had where things just aren’t’ working, other people aren’t believing in us, almost failure, what is at that point, the belief system that we have to work on? What do you recognize in people here? Russell: So usually there’s three core beliefs that people have. The first is about the opportunity itself right. So like with entrepreneurship, the first belief that people have is could I actually be an entrepreneur? And some people who actually believe that, they’re like, I’m in. And that’s an easy one. But for those who don’t there’s a reason and usually it’s like, they saw a parent that tried to do it. And the parent tried to be an entrepreneur and wasn’t able to and they saw that failure. Or they’d tried it in the past and they failed or whatever it is. So it’s showing them that even if you tried in the past and showed different ways, let me tell you a story. And for me, I could show 800 different failures. But eventually you get better and you get better until eventually you have the thing that actually works. So I tell a story to kind of show that, to make them believe that, oh my gosh maybe I just need to try a couple more times. And then the second level of beliefs is like beliefs about themselves like, I’m sure it works for you, Russell or Andrew but not for me because I’m different. It’s helping them figure out their false beliefs, and if you can break that, then the third one is like, then they always want to blame somebody else. “I could lose lots of weight but my wife buys lots of cupcakes and candy. So I could do it, but because of that I can’t.” So then it’s like figuring out how you break the beliefs of the external people that are going to keep them. Andrew: And how would you know what that is? How would you know who the external influencers are, that your potential customers are worried about? Russell: I think for most of us it’s because the thing that we’re selling is something that, one of our, Nick Barely said “Our mess becomes our message.” For most of us, what we’re selling is the thing we struggled with before. So I think back about me as 12 year old Russell, watching Don Lepre, like what would have kept me back? And I would have been like, I can’t afford classified ads. Like if you showed me how I can, if you could tell me a story of, oh my gosh I could afford classified ads. Now that belief’s gone and now I’m going to go give you money. It’s just kind of remembering back to the state that you were in when you were trying to figure this stuff out as well. Andrew: Who was who I met when we were coming in here that said that they were part of Russell’s mastermind and I asked how much did you pay and he said, “I’m not telling you.” I can’t see who that person was. But I know you got a mastermind, people coming in. I’m wondering how much of it comes from that? working with people directly, seeing them in the group share openly, and then saying, ah, this is what my potential customers are feeling? Russell: 100% At this point especially. People always ask me, “Where do you go, Russell, to learn stuff?” and it’s my mastermind, because I bring, all the people come in and they’re all in different industries and you see that. You see the road blocks that hold people back, but then they also share the stuff that they’re doing and it’s like, that’s 100% now where I get most of my intell. Because people ask me, “Why, you’re a software company, why in the world do you have a mastermind group?” And it’s because the reason why our software is good is because we have the mastermind group, where they’re all crowd sourcing, they’re doing all this stuff and bringing back to us, and then we’re able to make shifts and pivots based on that. Andrew: Somehow we just lost Apple, but that’s okay. It’s back, good. There we go. This is the next thing, Rippln. Russell: I forgot I put that one in there. Andrew: I went back and I watched the YouTube video explaining it. It’s a cartoon. I thought it was a professional voice over artist, no it’s you. You’re really comfortable getting on stage and talking. But basically in that video that you guys can see in the top left of your screen, it’s Russell, through this voice over and cartoon explaining, “Look, you guys were around in the early days of Facebook, you told your friends, here’s how many friends you would have had, for the sake of numbers, let’s say you told 7 people and let’s say they told 7 people, and that’s how things spread. And the same thing happened with Pinterest and all these other sites. Don’t you ever wish that instead of making them rich by telling stuff, you made yourself rich? Well here’s how Rippln comes in.” and then you created it. And Rippln was what? Russell: So Rippln was actually one of my friend’s ideas, and he is a network marketing guy so he’s like, “We’re building a network marketing program.” And I’d like dabbled in network marketing, never been involved with it. And he came and was like, “Hey, be part of this.” And I was like, “No.” and then he sold us on the whole pitch of the idea, network marketers are really good at selling you on vision, and I was like, “Okay, that sounds awesome.” And then my role was to write the pitch. So I wrote the pitch, did the voice over, did the video, and then we launched it and we had in six weeks, it was like 1.5 million people signed up for Rippln, and I thought it was like, “This is the thing, I’m done.” My down line was like half of the company. And I was like, when this thing goes live, it’s going to be amazing. And then the tech side of it, what we’re promising people in this video that the main developer ended up dying and he had all the code. So they had to restart building it in the middle of this thing. And it was like thing after thing and by the time it finally got done, everyone had lost interest. It was like 8 months later, and I think the biggest check I got was like $47 for the whole thing. And I was just like, I spent like 6 months of my life. It was like a penny a day. It was horrible. Andrew: I’m just wondering whether I should ask this or not. Russell: Go for it. Andrew: So I stopped asking about religion, but I get the sense that you believe that there’s a spiritual element here that keeps you from seeing, my down line is growing, the whole thing is working. Is any of this, does it feel divinely inspired to you? Be honest. Russell: Business or…? Andrew: Business, life, success, things working out, so much so that when you’re at your lowest, you feel like there’s some divine guidance, some divine hand that says, “Russell, it’s going to work out. Russell, I don’t know if I got you, but I know you got this. Go do it.” I feel that from you and I… Russell: I 100% believe that. Andrew: You do? Russell: Every bit of it. I believe that God gives us talents and gifts and abilities and then watches what we do with it. And if we do good then he increases our capacity to do more. And if we do good with it, increases our capacity… Andrew: if you earn it? If you do good, if you use what God gives you, then you get more. So you think that that is your duty to do that and if you don’t do more, if you don’t pick yourself up after Rippln, you’ve let down God. Do you believe that? Is that it? Or that you haven’t lived up to… Russell: Yeah, I don’t think I feel that I’ve let down God, but I definitely feel like I haven’t lived up to my potential, you know. But also I feel like a lot of stuff, as I was putting together that document, all the pages, it’s interesting because each one of them, looking in hindsight, each built upon the next thing and the next thing. And there’s twice we tried to build Clickfunnels and each one was like the next level, and each one was a stepping stone. Like Rippln, if I wouldn’t have done Rippln, that was my very first viral video we ever created. I learned how to pitch things and when we did the Clickfunnels initial sales video, because I had done this one, I knew how to do this one. So for me, it’s less of like I let down God, as much as like, it’s just like the piece, what are you going to do with this? Are you going to do something with it? It doesn’t mean it’s going to be successful, but it means, if you do well with this, then we’re going to increase your capacity for the next step, and the next thing. But we definitely, especially in times at the office, we talk about this a lot. We definitely feel that what we do is a spiritual mission. Andrew: You do? Russell: 100% yeah. I don’t think that it’s just like, we’re lucky. I think the way that the people have come, the partnerships, how it was created is super inspired. Andrew: You know what, a lot of us are selling things that are software, PDF guide, this, that, it’s really hard to find the bigger mission in it. You’re finding the bigger mission in Funnels. What is that bigger mission? Really, how do you connect with it? Because you’re right, if you can find that bigger meaning then the work becomes more meaningful and you’re working with become, it’s more exciting to work with them, more meaningful to do it. How did you find it in funnels? What is the meaning? Russell: So for us, and I’m thinking about members in my inner circle, so right now as of today I think we had 68,000 members in Clickfunnels, which is the big number we all brag about. But for me, that’s 68,000 entrepreneurs, each one has a gift. So I think about, one member I’ll mention his name’s Chris Wark, he runs chrisbeatcancer.com and Chris was someone who came down with cancer and was given a death sentence, and instead of going through chemo therapy he decided, ‘I’m going to see if I can heal myself.” And he did. Cleared himself of cancer. And then instead of just being like, ‘cool, I’m going to go back into work.’ He was like, ‘Man I need to help other people.’ So he started a blog and started doing some things, and now he’s got this thing where he’s helped thousands and thousands of people to naturally cure themselves of cancer. And that’s one of our 68,000 people. Andrew: See, you’re focusing on him where I think a lot of us would focus on, here’s one person who’s just a smarmy marketer, and here’s who’s creating….but you don’t. That’s not who you are. Look, I see it in your eyes and you’re shaking your head. That’s not it at all, it’s not even a put on. Russell: It’s funny because for me it’s like, I understand because I get it all the time from people all the time, “Oh he’s this slimy marketer.” The first time people meet me, all the time, the first time their introduced, that’s a lot of times the first impression. And they get closer and they feel the heart and it’s just like, “oh my gosh, I had you wrong.” I get that all the time from people. Andrew: Brian, sorry Ryan and Brad, are either of them here? Would one of you come up here? Yeah, come on up. Because they felt that way, right? Russell: I don’t know about them. I know who you’re thinking about. Audience member: I think it’s Theron. {Crosstalk} Andrew: No, no stay up here, as long as you’re here. Theron come on up. Audience member: If it wasn’t me, then I’m going to sit back in the seats. Andrew: Are you nervous? Audience member: A little bit. Is there another Ryan and Brad? Russell: Different story, another story. Do you want to come up? Theron had no idea we were bringing him onstage. Andrew: Come on over here. Let’s stand in the center so we can get you on camera. Does this help? Russell: Do you want me to introduce Theron real quick? Andrew: Yeah, please. Russell: So Theron is one of the Harmon Brothers, they’re the ones who did the viral video for us. Andrew: I heard that you felt that he was a scam. What was the situation and how did you honestly feel? Theron: I don’t know that it…well… Russell: Be honest. Theron: I know, I don’t think that I felt that Clickfunnels itself was a scam, Russell: Just Russell. Theron: But that it just felt like so many of the ways that the funnels were built and the types of language they were using, it felt like it was that side of the internet. So I became very, well basically we were kind of in a desperate situation, where we had a video that had not performed and not worked out the way we wanted it to work out. Andrew: The video that you created for Russell? Theron: No, another client. Andrew: Another client, okay. Theron: And so our CEO had used Clickfunnels product to help drive, I think it was attendance to a big video event. And so he had some familiarity with the product, so he goes to Russell and at the same time Russell’s like, “I’m a big fan of you guys.” So he’s coming to us and these things are happening. Yeah, it was almost the same day. So we’re thinking like this and we’re like, “Well, they seem to really know how to drive traffic, to really know how to drive conversion. And we feellike we know how to drive conversion as well, but for some reason we missed it on this one.” So we’re like, “Well, let’s do a deal.” Andrew: What do you mean missed it? Okay, go ahead, go through to the end. Theron: We were failing our client. We were failing on our client. We weren’t giving them and ROI. So we said, let’s do a deal with Russell and we’ll have our internal team compete with his team, and we’re humble enough to say we’re failing our client. We want our client to succeed, let’s bring in their team and see if they can make a funnel that can bring down the cost for acquisition, bring up the return on investment for our client, and they were able to do it.  And then we said, what we’ll do is we’ll write a script, we’ll take you through our script writing process, but we don’t want to do the video because we don’t want to be affiliated with you. Russell: The contract said, “You can’t tell anyone ever that the Harmon Brothers wrote the script for you.” Andrew: Wow, because you didn’t want to be associated with something that you thought was a little too scammy for… Theron: Yeah, we just didn’t want our brand kind of brought down to their brand, which is super arrogant and really wrong headed. And in any case, so we go into this script writing training, and I wasn’t following his podcast, I wasn’t listening to enough. I mean, read Dotcom Secrets, those kinds of things are like, well, there’s some really valuable stuff there, this is really interesting. A nd then as we got to know each other and really start to connect, like you said, heart to heart. And to feel what he’s really about, and the types of team, the people that he surrounds himself with, I was like, wow, these are really, really good people. And they have a mission here that they feel, just like we feel that about our own group. And in any case, by the end of that 2 day retreat we’re like, all off in private saying, “First of all we like what we’ve written and second of all, we’d really like to work with these guys and I think we’re plenty happy being connected to them and associated with them.” So it’s been a ride and a blessing ever since. Russell: We’re about to start video number two with them. Andrew: You what? Russell: We’re about to start video number two with them right now. Theron: Anyway, we love them. Andrew: Alright, give him a big round, yeah. Thanks. This was pivotal for you guys. Lead Pages, there’s an article about how Lead Pages raised $5 million, and you saw that and you thought… Russell: Well, what happened was Todd, so Todd’s the cofounder of Clickfunnels, and he was working with us at the time and he would fly to Boise about once a quarter and we’d work on the next project, the new idea. And that morning he woke up and he saw that, and then he forwarded me the article. And he’s Atlanta, so it’s east coast, so I’m still in bed. And he’s got a 4 hour flight to Boise and he’s just getting angry, because Todd is, Todd’s like a genius. He literally, when he landed in Boise and he saw me and he’s like, “We can build Lead Pages tonight. I will clone, I will beat it. We’re going to launch this, this week while we’re here.” He’s that good of a developer. He, I’ve never seen someone code as fast and as good as him. He’s amazing. So he comes in, he’s mad because he’s like, “This is the stupidest site in the world. We could literally clone this. Let’s just do it.” And I’m like, “Yes, let’s clone it.” And we’re all excited and then he’s like, “Do you want me to add any other features while I’m doing it.” And I’m like, ‘Oh, yes. We should do this, and we should do this.” And then the scope creep from the marketer comes, and we ended up spending an entire week in front of a whiteboard mapping out all my dreams, “If we could do this and this and what kind of shopping cart, and we could do upsells, and what if we could actually move things on the page instead of just having it sit there. And what if…” and Todd’s just taking notes and everything. And then he’s like, “Okay, I think I could do this.” And he told me though, “If I do this, I don’t want to do this as an employee. I want to do this as a partner.” And at first I was like, ugh, because I didn’t want to do the partnership thing. And then the best decision I’ve ever made in my life, outside of marrying my wife was saying yes to Todd. Said, “Let’s do it.” And then he flew home and built Clickfunnels. Andrew: Wow. And this is after trying software so much. I have screenshots of all the different, it’s not even worth going into it, of all the different products you created, there was one about, it was digital repo, right? Russell: That was a good idea. Andrew: Digital Repo, man. What was…. Russell: So I used to sell ebooks and stuff, and people would steal it and email it to their friends and I’d get angry. Andrew: Can I read this? How to protect every type of lowlife and other form of human scum from cheating you from the profits you should be making by hijacking, stealing, and illegally prostituting….your online digital products. Russell: Theron, why did you think we were…..Just kidding. So no, it was this really cool product where you take an ebook and it would protect it, and if somebody gave it to their friend, you could push a button and it would take back access. It was like the coolest thing in the world, we thought. Andrew: And there was software that was going to attach your ad to any other software that was out there. There was software that was going to, what are some of the other ones? It’s going to hit me later on. But we’re talking about a dozen different pieces of software, a dozen different attempts at software. What’s one? I thought somebody remembered one of them. They’re just the kind of stuff you’d never think of. There was one that was kind of like Clickfunnels, an early version of Clickfunnels for landing pages. Why did you want to get into software when you were teaching, creating membership sites? What was software, what was drawing you to it? Russell: I think honestly, when I first learned this internet marketing game, the first mentor I had, the first person I saw was a guy name Armand Morin and Armand had all these little software products. Ecover generator, sales letter generator, everything generator, so that’s what I kept seeing. I was like, I need to create software because he made software. In fact, I even shifted my major from, I can’t remember what it was before, to computer information systems, because I was like, I’m going to learn how to code, because I couldn’t afford programmers. And then that’s just kind of what I’d seen. And then I was trying to think of ideas for software. And every time I would get stuck, instead of trying to find something to do, I’d be like let me just, let me just hire a guy to go build that, and then I can sell it somebody else as well. So that’s kind of how it started. Andrew: And it was a lot of different tools, a lot of different attempts, and then this one was the one that you went with. I think this is an early version of the home page, basically saying, “Coming soon, sign up.” The first one didn’t work out. And then you saw someone else on a forum who had a version that was better. What was his name? This is I think Dylan Jones. Russell: Oh you’re talking about the editor, yes. Okay, so the story was, Todd built the first version of Clickfunnels and Dylan who became one of our cofounders, I’d been working with Dylan as a designer for about 6 years prior. And he his hands, and we talked about this earlier, he is the best designer I’ve ever seen in my life, he is amazing. He would, but he’s also, this is the pros and cons of Dylan. He, I’ve talked about this onstage at Funnel Hacking Live, so I have no problem saying this. He would agree. But I would give him a project, and I couldn’t hear, he wouldn’t respond back to me, and I wouldn’t hear from him for 2 or 3 months, and then one day in the middle of the night he messaged me, “Hey, rent’s due tomorrow. Do you have any projects for me?” and I’d be so mad at him, and I look back at every project we’d done in the last 3 or 4 months that other designers had done, and I’d just resend him all the lists, just boom, give him 12 sites and I’d go to bed. I’d wake up 5 or 6 hours later and all of them were done, perfectly, amazing, some of the best designs ever, and then he’d send me a bill for whatever, and then I’d send him money and he’d disappear again for like 5 months. And I could never get a hold of him. I’d be like, “I need you to tweak something.” And he was just gone. And that was my pattern for 6 years with him. And then fast forward to when Todd and I were building Clickfunnels, we were at Traffic Conversion and we were up in the hotel room at like 3 in the morning trying to, we were on dribble.com trying to find a UI designer to help us, and we couldn’t get a hold of all these people, and all the sudden on Skype Dylan popped in, I saw his thing pop up. I was like, “Todd, Dylan just showed up.” And he’s like, “Do you think he needs some money?” I’m like, “I guarantee he needs money.” So I’m like, “Hey man!” And Dylan messaged back. He’s like, “Hey.” I’m like, “Do you need some money?” and he’s like, “Yeah, you got any projects?” I’m like, “Yes, I do.” I’m like, “We built this cool thing, it’s called Clickfunnels, but the UI is horrible and the editor is horrible and there’s any way we could hire you for a week to fly to Boise and just do all the UI for every single page of the app?” and he kind of said no at first because, “I’m developing my own website builder. I might have spent 6 years on it, so I can’t do it.” Andrew: It was this, he had something that was essentially Clickfunnels, right? Russell: No, no. It was just pages though, so it’d just do pages, there was no funnels. Andrew: Right, closer to Lead Pages. Russell: Lead Pages, but amazing. You could move things around. But he did tell me that, “I’m working on something.” So eventually we got him to come, flew to Boise, spent a week, did all of our UI, and then we went and launched our beta to my list. So we launched the beta, got some signups, and then a week before the launch, launch was supposed to happen, all the affiliates were lined up, everything was supposed to happen. He sends me, I don’t know if he sent you the video, but he sends me this little video that’s like a 30 second video of him demoing the editor he’d built. And I probably watched that video, I don’t know, at least a hundred times. And I was just sick to my stomach because I was like, “I hate Clickfunnels right now. I can’t move things on my pages, I can’t do anything.” I was just, and I sent it to Todd and then I didn’t hear from him for like an hour, and he messaged me back and he’s like, “I’m pissed.” I’m like, “Me too.” And I’m like, “What do we do?” and I was like, “We have to have his editor or I don’t even want to sell this thing.” And I called Dylan and I’m like, “Would you be willing to sell?” and he’s like, “No, I’m selling it and we’re going to sell it for $100.” It was like $100 this one time for this editor that designed all the websites. I was like, “Dude, it is worth so much more than that. Please?” and we spent all night going back and forth negotiating. And finally, we came to like, “I will give you this editor if I can be a cofounder and be a partner.” And Todd and I sat there, brainstorming and figured out if we could do it and finally said yes. And then him and Dylan and Todd flew back to Boise and for the next week just sat in a room with a whole bunch of caffeine and figured out how to smush Dylan’s editor into Clickfunnels to get the editor to be the editor that you guys know today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Enjoy part two of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story!

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Alright everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope yesterday you enjoyed part one of the Clickfunnels start up story interview at the Dry Bar Comedy Club with Andrew. I love the way he interviews. I hope you’re enjoying it as well.

So we are going to dive right into part 2 of 4 from this interview. And again, if you’re liking these interviews please, please, please take a snapshot on your phone, post it on Facebook, Instagram or wherever you do your posting and tag me in it and use hashtag marketing secrets so I can see that you’re talking about it. I’d appreciate it. With that said, we’re going to queue up the theme song, when we come back we’ll start in on part 2 of the interview of the Clickfunnels start up story.

Andrew: You know what, I’ve talked to a few of your people because they’re so good, that Dave could really be a leader on his own, start his own company, he’s got his own online reputation, the whole thing. I keep asking him, “Why do you work for Russell? What is it that lets you be second to Russell who’s getting all the attention?” And I’ve got some answers and would you mind coming up here and in a second I’m going to ask you. No, come back here and I’ll just bring you up in a second. Actually, you know what, it looks like you can come pretty fast. I thought that it would be a little bit more, I thought it would be more of a thing to get mics on people. And I realized if Collette can do it….

Okay honestly, dig down deep. Why did you want to stick with him?

Brent: Through all that stuff?

Andrew: Yeah.

Brent: I don’t know. My heart was just racing. As he started telling that story, it just makes me sick to my stomach. As you scroll down and look at all those businesses of, for years, every 30 days it was a new business launch, it was crazy. Always why I stuck with him is, you know, Collette mentioned that spirit. He’s absolutely different than anybody else I’ve ever met in my entire life, a friend….

Andrew: Of what? Give me an example. Let’s be more specific. Back then, not today, he’s got this track record, adoring fans, I asked him to do an interview, everyone wants him on his podcast. Back then when it wasn’t going so well. Give me an example that let you know this is a guy who’s going to figure it out eventually, and I could possibly go down, watch him go to jail, but I believe that it’s going to go up.

Brent: Well, at the time when things are crashing, I saw him as the income stopped. And he had started a program that he loves, obviously wrestling, and he brought an Olympic wrestling coach to Boise and he brought all these amazing wrestlers to Boise and he wanted them to be able to train and get to the Olympics, he wanted to help them get there and live their dream. And you know, he was supplementing, at the time the business was paying for these guys to do a little bit of work for us, they weren’t doing very much for us. But I saw him out of his own pocket, be paying for these guys. And I knew how hard he wanted to support them.

And there was a day when my wife and I, we were struggling because I just, I was concerned about him financially because he was supplementing and trying to keep this business afloat, and we talked about things and I came into the office one day and I asked if I could talk to him and sat down, and kind of spoke in language that I normally don’t speak in, I might have dropped a bomb or two. It was, I was so concerned I pretty much told him, I can’t keep doing this, I can’t keep watching you every month pulling the money that you saved for your family to try keep jobs for other people. I said, I’ll leave if that helps you.

And the fact that he stuck with people, that was the true character of who he is.

Andrew: He kept paying your salary, kept sticking with you, and also constantly launching things.

Brent: Absolutely.

Andrew: That you’ve never seen anyone implement like him.

Brent: You know some people call it faith or belief. He has this inherit belief that he can truly change people’s lives.

Andrew: That’s it, even when he wasn’t fully in control of his own. Alright thanks. Thanks for, give him a big round of applause, thanks for being up here. I feel like this is the thing that helped get you out of trouble and potentially, and getting out of potential jail.

What is this business that you created?

Russell: So we, during the time of that and this there was time, probably a year and a half-two years that we were trying all sorts of stuff. And again, marginal success on a lot of them, nothing like….and this was the one, we actually, this is before….I’ve done a lot of webinars and speaking from seminars and stuff like that, but this is right when auto webinars were coming out and Mike Filsaime had just done an auto webinar and a couple of people, and I felt like that was going to be the future thing. So we’re like, what do we do the webinar on? We didn’t know.

And we flew out to Ryan Deiss and Perry Belcher’s office for two days and picked their brains, went to Rich Schefren’s office for a day. And then on the flight home, I’m just like sick to my stomach. I couldn’t figure out what’s the thing that we could serve people the most right now. And on the flight home I was like, all the internet marketing stuff we do works for internet marketers, but we’re way better at like local business. Like if a chiropractor implements like two things it works. Or if a dentist does it.

But I was like, I don’t want to be the guy going to dentists, but we could be the backbone for that. What if we created an opportunity where people could come in, we train them, and we connect them with the right tools and resources, and then they could go and sell to chiropractors and dentists. And that’s what the idea was. We turned it into an offer called Dotcom Secrets Local, it was a thousand dollar offer at the time. Did the auto webinar for it, and it launched and within 90 days it had done over a million dollars, which covered payroll taxes and then got us out of debt to the point now we could stop and dream again, and believe again and try to figure out what we really wanted to do.

Andrew: Dotcom Secrets Local to a million dollars within 90 days. And how did you find the people who were going to sign up for this. A lot of us will have landing pages like this, we’ll have these funnels. How did you get people in this funnel?

Russell: And this was pre-Facebook too, so it wasn’t just like go turn Facebook ads on. But you know, one thing that happened over all the years prior to this, I’d met a lot of people and go to a lot of events and get to know everybody. And everyone I met, you know, you meet a lot of people who have lists, they have followings, they have different things like that. I just got to know them really, really well. And in the past I’d promote a lot of their products, they’d promote my products.

So we had this one and we did it first to my list, and it did really well. So I then I then called them and I’m like, “Okay, I did this webinar to my list, these are the numbers, it did awesome. Do you want to do it to your list as well?” and they’re like, “Oh sure. Sounds like a great offer.” We did that list and it did good for them too. And we told the next person and then, if you have a webinar, it’s kind of like the speaking circuit, if you’re good at speaking then people will put you all over the place. Same thing, if you have a webinar that converts, then it’s easy to get a lot of people to do it. So as soon as that one worked and it converted well, then people lined up and we kept doing it, doing it, and doing it, and it was really quick to get to that spot pretty quick.

Andrew: I went on Facebook recently and I saw webinar slides from Russell Brunson, I went to the landing page, Clickfunnels page and I signed up and I’ll talk about it maybe later, but I bought it and I know other people did. And I’ve seen other people say, “Russell’s webinar technique is the thing that just works.” I’m wondering how did you figure it out? How did you come across this and how did you build it and make it work?

Russell: Yeah, so rewind back probably ten years prior to this, when I was first learning this whole business. I went to my very first internet marketing seminar ever, it was Armand Morin’s Big Seminar. Did you ever go to Big Seminar? Anyway, I went to it and I had no idea what to expect. I thought it was going to be like, I showed up with my laptop and I was going to like, I thought we were a bunch of geeks going to do computer stuff.

And the first person got onstage and started speaking and at the end of it he sold like a two thousand dollar thing. And I’d never seen this before. I saw people jumping up and running to the back of the room to buy it. And I’m like this little 23 year old kid and I was counting the people in the back of the room, doing the math, you know doing the math and I’m like, that guy made 60 thousand dollars in an hour.

And the next guy gets up and does his presentation and I watch this for three days and I was like, I’m super shy and introverted, but that skill is worth learning. If someone can walk on a stage and make 100,000 dollars in an hour, I need to learn how to do that. So I started that. And it was really bad for the first probably 8 or 9 months. I tried to do it. I’d go to places and I just, I couldn’t figure it out. And then I started asking the people who were good because you go there and all the speakers kind of talk and hang out, and I’d watch the ones that always had the people in the back of the room. And I’d ask them questions, I’m like, ‘What did I do wrong? I feel like I’m teaching the best stuff possible.’ And they’re like, ‘That’s the problem, it’s not about teaching, it’s about stories, telling stories and breaking beliefs.”

So for about the next two years I was about once a month flying somewhere to speak, and then when I would go I would meet all the speakers and find out what they were doing and I’d watch them and I’d take notes on the different things they were saying and how they were saying it. And then I kept taking my presentation and tweaking it, and tweaking it, and tweaking it. And you know, now 12 years later, I’ve done so many webinars, it kind of worked. The process works now.

Andrew: You are a really good story teller and I’ve seen you do that. I’ve seen you do it, and I know you’re going to do it even more. What I’m curious about is the belief system that you were saying, breaking people’s…what was it that you said?

Russell: False beliefs.

Andrew: Breaking people’s false beliefs. How do you understand what, like as you look at this audience, do you understand what some of our false beliefs are?

Russell: If I knew what I was selling I could figure out for sure.

Andrew: If you knew what you were selling. Alright we’re selling this belief that entrepreneurship does work. And I know we’re all going to go through a period like some of the ones that you had where things just aren’t’ working, other people aren’t believing in us, almost failure, what is at that point, the belief system that we have to work on? What do you recognize in people here?

Russell: So usually there’s three core beliefs that people have. The first is about the opportunity itself right. So like with entrepreneurship, the first belief that people have is could I actually be an entrepreneur? And some people who actually believe that, they’re like, I’m in. And that’s an easy one. But for those who don’t there’s a reason and usually it’s like, they saw a parent that tried to do it. And the parent tried to be an entrepreneur and wasn’t able to and they saw that failure. Or they’d tried it in the past and they failed or whatever it is.

So it’s showing them that even if you tried in the past and showed different ways, let me tell you a story. And for me, I could show 800 different failures. But eventually you get better and you get better until eventually you have the thing that actually works. So I tell a story to kind of show that, to make them believe that, oh my gosh maybe I just need to try a couple more times.

And then the second level of beliefs is like beliefs about themselves like, I’m sure it works for you, Russell or Andrew but not for me because I’m different. It’s helping them figure out their false beliefs, and if you can break that, then the third one is like, then they always want to blame somebody else. “I could lose lots of weight but my wife buys lots of cupcakes and candy. So I could do it, but because of that I can’t.” So then it’s like figuring out how you break the beliefs of the external people that are going to keep them.

Andrew: And how would you know what that is? How would you know who the external influencers are, that your potential customers are worried about?

Russell: I think for most of us it’s because the thing that we’re selling is something that, one of our, Nick Barely said “Our mess becomes our message.” For most of us, what we’re selling is the thing we struggled with before. So I think back about me as 12 year old Russell, watching Don Lepre, like what would have kept me back? And I would have been like, I can’t afford classified ads. Like if you showed me how I can, if you could tell me a story of, oh my gosh I could afford classified ads. Now that belief’s gone and now I’m going to go give you money.

It’s just kind of remembering back to the state that you were in when you were trying to figure this stuff out as well.

Andrew: Who was who I met when we were coming in here that said that they were part of Russell’s mastermind and I asked how much did you pay and he said, “I’m not telling you.” I can’t see who that person was. But I know you got a mastermind, people coming in. I’m wondering how much of it comes from that? working with people directly, seeing them in the group share openly, and then saying, ah, this is what my potential customers are feeling?

Russell: 100% At this point especially. People always ask me, “Where do you go, Russell, to learn stuff?” and it’s my mastermind, because I bring, all the people come in and they’re all in different industries and you see that. You see the road blocks that hold people back, but then they also share the stuff that they’re doing and it’s like, that’s 100% now where I get most of my intell. Because people ask me, “Why, you’re a software company, why in the world do you have a mastermind group?” And it’s because the reason why our software is good is because we have the mastermind group, where they’re all crowd sourcing, they’re doing all this stuff and bringing back to us, and then we’re able to make shifts and pivots based on that.

Andrew: Somehow we just lost Apple, but that’s okay. It’s back, good. There we go. This is the next thing, Rippln.

Russell: I forgot I put that one in there.

Andrew: I went back and I watched the YouTube video explaining it. It’s a cartoon. I thought it was a professional voice over artist, no it’s you. You’re really comfortable getting on stage and talking. But basically in that video that you guys can see in the top left of your screen, it’s Russell, through this voice over and cartoon explaining, “Look, you guys were around in the early days of Facebook, you told your friends, here’s how many friends you would have had, for the sake of numbers, let’s say you told 7 people and let’s say they told 7 people, and that’s how things spread. And the same thing happened with Pinterest and all these other sites. Don’t you ever wish that instead of making them rich by telling stuff, you made yourself rich? Well here’s how Rippln comes in.” and then you created it. And Rippln was what?

Russell: So Rippln was actually one of my friend’s ideas, and he is a network marketing guy so he’s like, “We’re building a network marketing program.” And I’d like dabbled in network marketing, never been involved with it. And he came and was like, “Hey, be part of this.” And I was like, “No.” and then he sold us on the whole pitch of the idea, network marketers are really good at selling you on vision, and I was like, “Okay, that sounds awesome.”

And then my role was to write the pitch. So I wrote the pitch, did the voice over, did the video, and then we launched it and we had in six weeks, it was like 1.5 million people signed up for Rippln, and I thought it was like, “This is the thing, I’m done.” My down line was like half of the company. And I was like, when this thing goes live, it’s going to be amazing. And then the tech side of it, what we’re promising people in this video that the main developer ended up dying and he had all the code. So they had to restart building it in the middle of this thing.

And it was like thing after thing and by the time it finally got done, everyone had lost interest. It was like 8 months later, and I think the biggest check I got was like $47 for the whole thing. And I was just like, I spent like 6 months of my life. It was like a penny a day. It was horrible.

Andrew: I’m just wondering whether I should ask this or not.

Russell: Go for it.

Andrew: So I stopped asking about religion, but I get the sense that you believe that there’s a spiritual element here that keeps you from seeing, my down line is growing, the whole thing is working. Is any of this, does it feel divinely inspired to you? Be honest.

Russell: Business or…?

Andrew: Business, life, success, things working out, so much so that when you’re at your lowest, you feel like there’s some divine guidance, some divine hand that says, “Russell, it’s going to work out. Russell, I don’t know if I got you, but I know you got this. Go do it.” I feel that from you and I…

Russell: I 100% believe that.

Andrew: You do?

Russell: Every bit of it. I believe that God gives us talents and gifts and abilities and then watches what we do with it. And if we do good then he increases our capacity to do more. And if we do good with it, increases our capacity…

Andrew: if you earn it? If you do good, if you use what God gives you, then you get more. So you think that that is your duty to do that and if you don’t do more, if you don’t pick yourself up after Rippln, you’ve let down God. Do you believe that? Is that it? Or that you haven’t lived up to…

Russell: Yeah, I don’t think I feel that I’ve let down God, but I definitely feel like I haven’t lived up to my potential, you know. But also I feel like a lot of stuff, as I was putting together that document, all the pages, it’s interesting because each one of them, looking in hindsight, each built upon the next thing and the next thing. And there’s twice we tried to build Clickfunnels and each one was like the next level, and each one was a stepping stone. Like Rippln, if I wouldn’t have done Rippln, that was my very first viral video we ever created. I learned how to pitch things and when we did the Clickfunnels initial sales video, because I had done this one, I knew how to do this one.

So for me, it’s less of like I let down God, as much as like, it’s just like the piece, what are you going to do with this? Are you going to do something with it? It doesn’t mean it’s going to be successful, but it means, if you do well with this, then we’re going to increase your capacity for the next step, and the next thing. But we definitely, especially in times at the office, we talk about this a lot. We definitely feel that what we do is a spiritual mission.

Andrew: You do?

Russell: 100% yeah. I don’t think that it’s just like, we’re lucky. I think the way that the people have come, the partnerships, how it was created is super inspired.

Andrew: You know what, a lot of us are selling things that are software, PDF guide, this, that, it’s really hard to find the bigger mission in it. You’re finding the bigger mission in Funnels. What is that bigger mission? Really, how do you connect with it? Because you’re right, if you can find that bigger meaning then the work becomes more meaningful and you’re working with become, it’s more exciting to work with them, more meaningful to do it. How did you find it in funnels? What is the meaning?

Russell: So for us, and I’m thinking about members in my inner circle, so right now as of today I think we had 68,000 members in Clickfunnels, which is the big number we all brag about. But for me, that’s 68,000 entrepreneurs, each one has a gift. So I think about, one member I’ll mention his name’s Chris Wark, he runs chrisbeatcancer.com and Chris was someone who came down with cancer and was given a death sentence, and instead of going through chemo therapy he decided, ‘I’m going to see if I can heal myself.” And he did. Cleared himself of cancer.

And then instead of just being like, ‘cool, I’m going to go back into work.’ He was like, ‘Man I need to help other people.’ So he started a blog and started doing some things, and now he’s got this thing where he’s helped thousands and thousands of people to naturally cure themselves of cancer. And that’s one of our 68,000 people.

Andrew: See, you’re focusing on him where I think a lot of us would focus on, here’s one person who’s just a smarmy marketer, and here’s who’s creating….but you don’t. That’s not who you are. Look, I see it in your eyes and you’re shaking your head. That’s not it at all, it’s not even a put on.

Russell: It’s funny because for me it’s like, I understand because I get it all the time from people all the time, “Oh he’s this slimy marketer.” The first time people meet me, all the time, the first time their introduced, that’s a lot of times the first impression. And they get closer and they feel the heart and it’s just like, “oh my gosh, I had you wrong.” I get that all the time from people.

Andrew: Brian, sorry Ryan and Brad, are either of them here? Would one of you come up here? Yeah, come on up. Because they felt that way, right?

Russell: I don’t know about them. I know who you’re thinking about.

Audience member: I think it’s Theron.

{Crosstalk}

Andrew: No, no stay up here, as long as you’re here. Theron come on up.

Audience member: If it wasn’t me, then I’m going to sit back in the seats.

Andrew: Are you nervous?

Audience member: A little bit. Is there another Ryan and Brad?

Russell: Different story, another story. Do you want to come up? Theron had no idea we were bringing him onstage.

Andrew: Come on over here. Let’s stand in the center so we can get you on camera. Does this help?

Russell: Do you want me to introduce Theron real quick?

Andrew: Yeah, please.

Russell: So Theron is one of the Harmon Brothers, they’re the ones who did the viral video for us.

Andrew: I heard that you felt that he was a scam. What was the situation and how did you honestly feel?

Theron: I don’t know that it…well…

Russell: Be honest.

Theron: I know, I don’t think that I felt that Clickfunnels itself was a scam,

Russell: Just Russell.

Theron: But that it just felt like so many of the ways that the funnels were built and the types of language they were using, it felt like it was that side of the internet. So I became very, well basically we were kind of in a desperate situation, where we had a video that had not performed and not worked out the way we wanted it to work out.

Andrew: The video that you created for Russell?

Theron: No, another client.

Andrew: Another client, okay.

Theron: And so our CEO had used Clickfunnels product to help drive, I think it was attendance to a big video event. And so he had some familiarity with the product, so he goes to Russell and at the same time Russell’s like, “I’m a big fan of you guys.” So he’s coming to us and these things are happening. Yeah, it was almost the same day. So we’re thinking like this and we’re like, “Well, they seem to really know how to drive traffic, to really know how to drive conversion. And we feellike we know how to drive conversion as well, but for some reason we missed it on this one.” So we’re like, “Well, let’s do a deal.”

Andrew: What do you mean missed it? Okay, go ahead, go through to the end.

Theron: We were failing our client. We were failing on our client. We weren’t giving them and ROI. So we said, let’s do a deal with Russell and we’ll have our internal team compete with his team, and we’re humble enough to say we’re failing our client. We want our client to succeed, let’s bring in their team and see if they can make a funnel that can bring down the cost for acquisition, bring up the return on investment for our client, and they were able to do it. 

And then we said, what we’ll do is we’ll write a script, we’ll take you through our script writing process, but we don’t want to do the video because we don’t want to be affiliated with you.

Russell: The contract said, “You can’t tell anyone ever that the Harmon Brothers wrote the script for you.”

Andrew: Wow, because you didn’t want to be associated with something that you thought was a little too scammy for…

Theron: Yeah, we just didn’t want our brand kind of brought down to their brand, which is super arrogant and really wrong headed. And in any case, so we go into this script writing training, and I wasn’t following his podcast, I wasn’t listening to enough. I mean, read Dotcom Secrets, those kinds of things are like, well, there’s some really valuable stuff there, this is really interesting. A

nd then as we got to know each other and really start to connect, like you said, heart to heart. And to feel what he’s really about, and the types of team, the people that he surrounds himself with, I was like, wow, these are really, really good people. And they have a mission here that they feel, just like we feel that about our own group. And in any case, by the end of that 2 day retreat we’re like, all off in private saying, “First of all we like what we’ve written and second of all, we’d really like to work with these guys and I think we’re plenty happy being connected to them and associated with them.” So it’s been a ride and a blessing ever since.

Russell: We’re about to start video number two with them.

Andrew: You what?

Russell: We’re about to start video number two with them right now.

Theron: Anyway, we love them.

Andrew: Alright, give him a big round, yeah. Thanks. This was pivotal for you guys. Lead Pages, there’s an article about how Lead Pages raised $5 million, and you saw that and you thought…

Russell: Well, what happened was Todd, so Todd’s the cofounder of Clickfunnels, and he was working with us at the time and he would fly to Boise about once a quarter and we’d work on the next project, the new idea. And that morning he woke up and he saw that, and then he forwarded me the article. And he’s Atlanta, so it’s east coast, so I’m still in bed. And he’s got a 4 hour flight to Boise and he’s just getting angry, because Todd is, Todd’s like a genius. He literally, when he landed in Boise and he saw me and he’s like, “We can build Lead Pages tonight. I will clone, I will beat it. We’re going to launch this, this week while we’re here.”

He’s that good of a developer. He, I’ve never seen someone code as fast and as good as him. He’s amazing. So he comes in, he’s mad because he’s like, “This is the stupidest site in the world. We could literally clone this. Let’s just do it.” And I’m like, “Yes, let’s clone it.” And we’re all excited and then he’s like, “Do you want me to add any other features while I’m doing it.” And I’m like, ‘Oh, yes. We should do this, and we should do this.” And then the scope creep from the marketer comes, and we ended up spending an entire week in front of a whiteboard mapping out all my dreams, “If we could do this and this and what kind of shopping cart, and we could do upsells, and what if we could actually move things on the page instead of just having it sit there. And what if…” and Todd’s just taking notes and everything.

And then he’s like, “Okay, I think I could do this.” And he told me though, “If I do this, I don’t want to do this as an employee. I want to do this as a partner.” And at first I was like, ugh, because I didn’t want to do the partnership thing. And then the best decision I’ve ever made in my life, outside of marrying my wife was saying yes to Todd. Said, “Let’s do it.” And then he flew home and built Clickfunnels.

Andrew: Wow. And this is after trying software so much. I have screenshots of all the different, it’s not even worth going into it, of all the different products you created, there was one about, it was digital repo, right?

Russell: That was a good idea.

Andrew: Digital Repo, man. What was….

Russell: So I used to sell ebooks and stuff, and people would steal it and email it to their friends and I’d get angry.

Andrew: Can I read this? How to protect every type of lowlife and other form of human scum from cheating you from the profits you should be making by hijacking, stealing, and illegally prostituting….your online digital products.

Russell: Theron, why did you think we were…..Just kidding. So no, it was this really cool product where you take an ebook and it would protect it, and if somebody gave it to their friend, you could push a button and it would take back access. It was like the coolest thing in the world, we thought.

Andrew: And there was software that was going to attach your ad to any other software that was out there. There was software that was going to, what are some of the other ones? It’s going to hit me later on. But we’re talking about a dozen different pieces of software, a dozen different attempts at software. What’s one? I thought somebody remembered one of them. They’re just the kind of stuff you’d never think of. There was one that was kind of like Clickfunnels, an early version of Clickfunnels for landing pages. Why did you want to get into software when you were teaching, creating membership sites? What was software, what was drawing you to it?

Russell: I think honestly, when I first learned this internet marketing game, the first mentor I had, the first person I saw was a guy name Armand Morin and Armand had all these little software products. Ecover generator, sales letter generator, everything generator, so that’s what I kept seeing. I was like, I need to create software because he made software. In fact, I even shifted my major from, I can’t remember what it was before, to computer information systems, because I was like, I’m going to learn how to code, because I couldn’t afford programmers.

And then that’s just kind of what I’d seen. And then I was trying to think of ideas for software. And every time I would get stuck, instead of trying to find something to do, I’d be like let me just, let me just hire a guy to go build that, and then I can sell it somebody else as well. So that’s kind of how it started.

Andrew: And it was a lot of different tools, a lot of different attempts, and then this one was the one that you went with. I think this is an early version of the home page, basically saying, “Coming soon, sign up.” The first one didn’t work out. And then you saw someone else on a forum who had a version that was better. What was his name? This is I think Dylan Jones.

Russell: Oh you’re talking about the editor, yes. Okay, so the story was, Todd built the first version of Clickfunnels and Dylan who became one of our cofounders, I’d been working with Dylan as a designer for about 6 years prior. And he his hands, and we talked about this earlier, he is the best designer I’ve ever seen in my life, he is amazing. He would, but he’s also, this is the pros and cons of Dylan.

He, I’ve talked about this onstage at Funnel Hacking Live, so I have no problem saying this. He would agree. But I would give him a project, and I couldn’t hear, he wouldn’t respond back to me, and I wouldn’t hear from him for 2 or 3 months, and then one day in the middle of the night he messaged me, “Hey, rent’s due tomorrow. Do you have any projects for me?” and I’d be so mad at him, and I look back at every project we’d done in the last 3 or 4 months that other designers had done, and I’d just resend him all the lists, just boom, give him 12 sites and I’d go to bed. I’d wake up 5 or 6 hours later and all of them were done, perfectly, amazing, some of the best designs ever, and then he’d send me a bill for whatever, and then I’d send him money and he’d disappear again for like 5 months.

And I could never get a hold of him. I’d be like, “I need you to tweak something.” And he was just gone. And that was my pattern for 6 years with him. And then fast forward to when Todd and I were building Clickfunnels, we were at Traffic Conversion and we were up in the hotel room at like 3 in the morning trying to, we were on dribble.com trying to find a UI designer to help us, and we couldn’t get a hold of all these people, and all the sudden on Skype Dylan popped in, I saw his thing pop up. I was like, “Todd, Dylan just showed up.” And he’s like, “Do you think he needs some money?” I’m like, “I guarantee he needs money.”

So I’m like, “Hey man!” And Dylan messaged back. He’s like, “Hey.” I’m like, “Do you need some money?” and he’s like, “Yeah, you got any projects?” I’m like, “Yes, I do.” I’m like, “We built this cool thing, it’s called Clickfunnels, but the UI is horrible and the editor is horrible and there’s any way we could hire you for a week to fly to Boise and just do all the UI for every single page of the app?” and he kind of said no at first because, “I’m developing my own website builder. I might have spent 6 years on it, so I can’t do it.”

Andrew: It was this, he had something that was essentially Clickfunnels, right?

Russell: No, no. It was just pages though, so it’d just do pages, there was no funnels.

Andrew: Right, closer to Lead Pages.

Russell: Lead Pages, but amazing. You could move things around. But he did tell me that, “I’m working on something.” So eventually we got him to come, flew to Boise, spent a week, did all of our UI, and then we went and launched our beta to my list. So we launched the beta, got some signups, and then a week before the launch, launch was supposed to happen, all the affiliates were lined up, everything was supposed to happen. He sends me, I don’t know if he sent you the video, but he sends me this little video that’s like a 30 second video of him demoing the editor he’d built. And I probably watched that video, I don’t know, at least a hundred times. And I was just sick to my stomach because I was like, “I hate Clickfunnels right now. I can’t move things on my pages, I can’t do anything.”

I was just, and I sent it to Todd and then I didn’t hear from him for like an hour, and he messaged me back and he’s like, “I’m pissed.” I’m like, “Me too.” And I’m like, “What do we do?” and I was like, “We have to have his editor or I don’t even want to sell this thing.” And I called Dylan and I’m like, “Would you be willing to sell?” and he’s like, “No, I’m selling it and we’re going to sell it for $100.” It was like $100 this one time for this editor that designed all the websites. I was like, “Dude, it is worth so much more than that. Please?” and we spent all night going back and forth negotiating. And finally, we came to like, “I will give you this editor if I can be a cofounder and be a partner.” And Todd and I sat there, brainstorming and figured out if we could do it and finally said yes. And then him and Dylan and Todd flew back to Boise and for the next week just sat in a room with a whole bunch of caffeine and figured out how to smush Dylan’s editor into Clickfunnels to get the editor to be the editor that you guys know today.

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]]> 2037 no ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 1 of 4 (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/clickfunnels-startup-story-part-1-of-4-revisited Enjoy part one of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Good morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. And you guys are in for a very special treat over the next four episodes. So let me give you some context on what’s going to happen, and why you should be so excited. Alright so, my favorite podcast, other than mine of course, that all of you guys should be subscribed to is called Mixergy. Andrew Warner is the guy who runs Mixergy podcast and I love that podcast because of Andrew. He is my favorite interviewer. If you look at how a lot of people do interview podcasts, they ask questions and I don’t know, I’ve suffered from this in the past as well. I’m not a good interviewer, at least not now. I’d like to learn how to do that skill, but I’m not a great interviewer. And most people who do podcasts with interviews aren’t like great interviewers, but Andrew is like the best interviewer I’ve ever seen. The way he asks questions, how deep he goes and the research he does before the interviews, and all sorts of stuff. Anyway, I love his style, love how he does it so what’s cool, I’ve actually been on the show twice in the past. And the first time, I don’t even, sorry, the second time, he totally caught me off guard. I remember he asked me some questions and I didn’t really know and I responded and he told me after, he told me live on the interview that he doesn’t edit his interviews. He was like, “Well, that was the worst answer you’ve ever given.” I was like, “Oh, thanks.” Anyway, it just totally caught me off guard, but it was cool the way that he just like kind of holds your feet to the fire. So a little while ago I thought, I want to tell the Clickfunnels startup story. But I didn’t want me to just to tell it, I wanted someone who would tell it from a different angle, who would ask the questions that I think people would want to know and do it in a really cool way. So I called Andrew and I’m like, “Hey, I’ve been wanting to do this thing, and I want to do an event around it. Would you be interested.” And he was like, luckily he said yes. So it’s funny, Andrew’s famous, I think I might have talked about this in the interview too, but he’s famous for these scotch nights he does, and as a Mormon I don’t drink so I can’t go to his scotch nights. So when we planned this interview, we planned it in Provo, Utah at this place called the Dry Bar Comedy Club. So a dry bar is a bar with no alcohol. So it was kind of a funny thing. We brought those two things, my world and his world together in this one spot to a dry bar, and told the Clickfunnels startup story. And it was cool, ahead of time he did so much research. He interviewed people who love me, people who hated me, he interviewed our old business partners who are no longer part of the business. He did everything and then he came and I told him, “Everything’s, you can ask me any question you want. Nothing, no holds barred, feel free to do whatever you want.” So we did the interview and it was about two hours long, and I loved it. I think it turned out amazing. And I hope you guys like it too. So I’ll tell you some of the details about the Clickfunnels startup story. How we built what we did, what happened, the ups, the downs, the negatives, the positives. He brings a couple of people up onstage to tell their parts of the story. Anyway, I really hope you enjoy it. So what we’re going to do, I’m going to have each episode over the next four episodes be about thirty minutes long so you can listen to them in pieces. I hope iyou enjoy them, I hope you love them. And if you do, please, please, please take a screen shot of your phone when you’re listening to it, and go post it on Instagram or Facebook and tag me. And then do hashtag marketing secrets and hopefully that will get more people to listen to the podcast. And then please, if you haven’t yet, go rate and review, which would be amazing. So with that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song and when we come back we will start immediately into part one of four of the Dry Bar Comedy Club Interview. Keith Yacky: Clickfunnels has changed a lot of our lives. We all have an origin story. Mine was something similar to, I set up my website on GoDaddy and things were going great. And then Dave Woodward was like, “Dude, you need Clickfunnels.” I’m like, “I don’t need a Clickfunnel. I don’t even know what a Clickfunnel is.” And he’s like, “No, seriously man. This is going to totally change your business.” I’m like, “Bro, I have GoDaddy. They have a commercial on the Super Bowl, Clickfunnels doesn’t. But when they do, I’ll do it.” Well, boy was I wrong. I changed over and it absolutely changed our business and changed our lives. So thank you for that, Dave. But here’s the thing, in every industry there’s somebody that comes along that really disrupts the industry, that really changes it, and that really does something amazing for that industry. And as we all, why we’re here, we know that person is Russell Brunson. And he has changed a lot of our lives. So before I bring him up here, they have asked me to ask you to make sure you don’t do any live recording of this next interview, because the gloves are coming off and they want to be able to present it to the world. You can do little Instagram clips if you’d like, like 15 second ones and tag them. My understanding is the best hashtag and the best clip, gets a date with Drew. I don’t know, that’s just what they told me. So blame them. But with that, again, no videoing, and let us just absolutely take the roof off this place as we bring up our beloved Russell Brunson. Give it up guys. Russell: Alright, well thanks for coming you guys. This is so cool. I’m excited to be here. So a couple of real quick things before we get started. For all of you guys who know, who came to be part of this, we had you all donate a little bit of money towards Operation Underground Railroad, and I’m really excited because Melanie told me right before I got here the total of how much money we raised from this little event for them. So I think the final number was a little over $13,000 was raised for Operation Underground Railroad. So thank you guys for your continued support with them. Just to put that in perspective, that’s enough money to save about 5 children from sex slavery. So it’s a big deal and a life changing thing, so it’s pretty special. So I’m grateful for you guys donating money to come here. And hopefully you’ve had a good time so far. Has it been fun? I really want to tuck my shirt in now, I’m feeling kind of awkward. No it’s been awesome. Okay so what we’re going to do now, I want to introduce the person who’s going to be doing the interview tonight. And it’s somebody I’m really excited to have here. In fact, I met him for the first time like an hour ago, in person. But I want to tell kind of the reason why I wanted him to do this, and why we’re all here. And I’m grateful he said yes, and was willing to come out here and kind of do this. So Andrew runs a podcast called Mixergy. How many of you guys in here are Mixergy listeners? Mixergy is my favorite podcast, I love it. He’s interviewed thousands of people about their startup stories and about how they started their businesses. And it’s really cool because he brings in entrepreneurs and he tells, gets them to tell their stories. But what’s unique about what Andrew does that’s fascinating, the way he interviews people is completely different, it’s unique. I listen to a lot of podcasts and I don’t like a lot of interview shows because a lot of them are just kind of high level. Everyone you listen to with Andrew, he gets really, really deep. The other fun thing is he doesn’t edit his interviews. So there was one interview, I’ll tease him about this right now. But I was listening to it on my headphones, and him and the guest got in kind of an argument and a fight and then it just ended and they aired it. I was like, “I can’t believe you aired that, it was amazing.” And then I was on his podcast a little while later, and he asked me some questions that I couldn’t quite understand perfectly, so I was trying to respond the best I could and kind of fumbled through it. And instead of letting me off the hook, his response was, “Man Russell, that was probably the worst answer I’ve ever heard you give in any interview ever.” And I was like, “Oh my gosh.” So I’m excited for tonight because I told it was like no holds barred and he could ask me anything he wants about the ups of Clickfunnels, the downs of Clickfunnels and anything else, and it’s going to be a lot of fun. So I’m excited to have him here. So with that said, let’s put our hands together for Mr. Andrew Warner. Andrew Warner: I think my mic is right over here. Thank you everyone, thanks Russell for having me here. Most people will contact me after I interview them and say, “Could you please not air the interview?” And you actually had me back here to do it in person. And you were so nice, you even got us this room here. Check this out, they set us up, they’re so nice at Clickfunnels. They said, “Andrew, you’re staying here, we’re going to put you and your family up the night before in a room.” My wife was so good, look that’s her journaling. My kids were playing around, sleeping in the same, sleeping together, enjoying themselves. And then I went to call somebody who was basically let go from Clickfunnels. And my wife goes, “Andrew, why do you have to do that? That’s not why they invited you here.” And I said, “I do know Russell. I know the team. They actually did invite me to really help get to the story of how Clickfunnels started, how it built up.” And the reason I was up calling people, understanding the story is because I want to make it meaningful for you. I’ve talked to a lot of you as you were coming in here, you want to know how they got here, what worked for Clickfunnels, what would work for us. So that’s my goal here, to spend the time understanding by interviewing you about how you did it. So I want to go way back to a guy a few of you might recognize, and I know you would, and ask you what drew you to this guy when you were younger? Russell: Don Lepre Clip: “One tiny classified ad in the newspaper that makes just 30-40 dollars profit in a week, it could make you a fortune, because the secret is learning how to take that one tiny classified that just made 30-40 dollars profit in a week, and to realize that you could now take that same exact ad and place it in up to 3,000 other newspapers around the country….” Russell: I’m having nostalgia right now. So this is the story of that, I was 12, 13 years old, something like that, and I was watching the news with my dad. And usually he’s like, “Go to bed Russell.” And he didn’t that night and then the news got over and I think he thought I was asleep and Mash came on. So Mash started playing and then it got over, and then this infomercial showed up. And I’m laying there on the couch watching Don Lepre talk about tiny classified ads, I was totally freaking out and I jumped up and begged my dad to buy it and he said no. And I was like, “Are you kidding? Did you not listen to what he said?” Did you guys just hear that? That was a good pitch huh? It’s really good. I love a good pitch. It is so good. So I went and asked my dad if I could earn the money. So I went and mowed lawns and earned the money and ordered the kit and I still have the original books to this day. Andrew: Were you disappointed? I bought it too. It was the dream of being able to do it. Russell: That’s why I like you so much, that’s amazing. Andrew: And it’s just, all he sent you was a bunch of paper guides with how to buy ads, right. Were you disappointed when you got that? Russell: No, I was excited. I think for me because the vision was cast, it was like, he said right there word for word, you make 40 dollars a newspaper, and if you’re disappointed, but he put that same ad in 3,000 newspapers, imagine that. So I had the vision of that, I think the only thing I was disappointed in, I didn’t have any money to actually buy an ad. And that was more like, I can’t actually do it now. Andrew: You are a champion wrestler and then you got here. Is your wife here? Russell: My beautiful wife right here, Collette. Andrew: Hey Collette. And your dad had a conversation with you about money, what did he say? Russell: So up to that point my dad had supported me, and I figured he would the rest of my life, I think. I don’t know. So I was 21 almost 22 at this time, I was wrestling so I couldn’t get a job because I was wrestling all the time. Then I met Collette, fell in love with her and then I called my parents and I was like, “Hey, I’m going to marry her. I’m going propose to her and everything.” Expecting them to be like, “Sweet, that’ll be awesome.” And my mom was all excited, I’m not going to lie. But then my dad was like, “Just so you know if you get married, you have to be a man now. You have to support yourself.” And I was like, “I don’t know how to do that, I’m wrestling.” And he’s like, “Well, I’m not going to keep paying for you to do it.” I’m like, “But I literally got the ring. I have, I can’t not propose now.” So that was kind of the thing. So it was interesting because about that time there was another infomercial, there’s the pattern, about I can’t remember exactly the name of the company, but they were doing an event at the local Holiday inn that was like, “Hey, you’re going to build websites and make money.” And it was like the night or two days after I told my dad this and he was like, “you’re in trouble.” And all the sudden I saw that, so I was like, there’s the answer. So I’m at the holiday in two days later, sitting in the room, hearing the pitch, signing up for stuff I shouldn’t have bought. There’s the pattern. Andrew: Did you feel like a loser getting married at 22 and still counting on your dad for money? Did you feel like you were marrying a loser? Russell: Actually, this is a sad story because she actually, my roommate at the time, she actually asked him, “Do you think he’s going to be able to support me in the future?” and he was like, “Yeah, I think so.” I’m like, I didn’t know this until later. I don’t think I felt like a loser, but I definitely was nervous, like oh my gosh. Because my whole identity at that point in my life was I was a wrestler and if that was to disappear…I couldn’t have that disappear. So I was like, I have to figure out something. There’s gotta be some way to do both. Andrew: To both what? To be a wrestler and make money from some infomercial? Russell: I didn’t know that was going to be the path, but yeah. Andrew: But you knew you were going to do something. What did you think that was going to be? Russell: I wasn’t sure. When I went to the event, they were selling these time share books and you could buy resale rights to them, so I was like, oh. And I remember back, because I remembered the Don Lepre stuff, so I was like, maybe I could buy classified ads and sell these things. And then I was at the event and they were talking about websites, and that was the first thing I’d heard about websites. And they’re talking about Google and the beginnings of this whole internet thing. So I was like, I can do that. It made all logical sense to me, I just didn’t know how to do it. I just knew that that was going to be the only path because if I had to get a job I wouldn’t be able to wrestle. So I was like, I have to figure out something that’s not going to be a 40 hour thing because I’m spending that time wrestling and going to school. So I had to figure out the best of how to do both. Andrew: And you obviously found it. My goal today is to go through this process of finding it. But let me skip ahead a little bit. What is this website? Russell: Oh man, alright. This is actually, the back story behind this is there was a guy named Vince James who wrote a book called the Twelve Month Millionaire. And if anybody’s got that book, it’s fat like a phone book. It’s a huge book. I read and I was like, this book’s amazing. And at the time I was an affiliate marketer, so I had a little bit, maybe a thousand people on my list. So I called up Vince and I was like, “Hey, can I interview you about the book and then I’ll use that as a tool to sell more copies of your book?” and he was like, “Sure.” So he jumped on the phone with me on a Saturday and he spent 3 hours letting me interview with any questions I had. And I got to the end of it and I still had a ton of questions and he’s like, “Well come back next week and do it again.” So I interviewed him for 6 hours about it. And then we used that to sell some copies of his book and then it just sat there, probably for 2 or 3 years as I was trying different ideas, different businesses and things like that. But every time I would talk to people I would tell them about this interview. I’m like, “I interviewed this guy who made a hundred million dollars through direct mail.” And everyone wanted to hear the interview, everybody asked me for it. So one day I was like, “Let’s just make that the product.” And we put it up here and this was the very first funnel we had that did over a million dollars, my first Two Comma Club funnel. Andrew: A million dollars. Do you remember what that felt like? Russell: It was amazing because it was funny back then. There were people, a few people who were making a lot of money online that I was watching and just idolizing everything they’d do. I was trying to model what they were doing. And I’d had little wins, you know $10,000 here, $15,000 here, but this was by far the first one that just hit. Everyone was so excited. Andrew: How’d you celebrate? Russell: I don’t even remember how we celebrated. Andrew: You married a winner after all. I mean really. Do you remember what you guys did to celebrate? No. Russell: I don’t even remember. (audience responding, inaudible) It was in my list. That’s a good question. Andrew: It’ll come up, that list is going to come up in a second too. You ended up creating Clickfunnels. How much revenue are you guys doing now, 2018? Russell: 2018 we’ll pass over a hundred million dollars, this year. Andrew:  A hundred million dollars, wowee. How far have you come? Russell: Like when did we start? Andrew: Today revenue, as of today, October 2018? Russell: Oh this year? Oh from the beginning of time until now? Andrew: No, no I mean I want to know, you’re going to do a hundred million dollars, are you at 10 and you’re hoping to get…. Russell: These guys know better than me, do you know exactly where we’re at right now? 83 million for the year. Andrew: 83! I love that Dave knows that right, so I want to know how you got to that. I went through your site, pages and pages that look like this. It’s like long form sales letters. I asked my assistant to take pictures, she said, “This is, I can’t do it, it’s too many.” Look at this guys. I asked him to help me figure out what he did. He created this list, this is not the full list, look at this. Every blue line is him finding an old archive of a page he created. It goes on and on like this. How long did it take you to put that together? Russell: It was probably 5 or 6 hours just to find all the pages. Andrew: 5 or 6 hours you spent to find these images to help me tell the story. Years and years of doing this, a lot of failure, what amazes me is you didn’t feel jaded and let down after Don Lepre sold you that stuff. You didn’t feel jaded and let down and say, ‘This whole make money thing is a failure.’ After, and we’re going to talk about some of your failures, you just kept going with that same smile, the same eagerness. Alright, let’s start with the very first business. What’s this one? This is called… Russell: Sublime Net. How many of you guys remember Sublime Net out there? Andrew: You guys remember this? Anyone remember it. You do? Russell: John does. So actually this is the first business for the first website I bought. I was so proud of it, and I spent, I don’t know, I wanted to sell software so I was like, ‘what could I name my company?” So I figured out Exciting Software. So I went to buy Exciteware.com, but it wasn’t for sale. So I bought Exciteware.net and Collette was working at the time and she came home and I was so excited, I’m like, “We got our first website. We’re going to be rich.”  And I told her the name, I was like, “It’s Exciteware.net.” and she looked at me with this look like, she’s like, “Are you selling underwear, what is the…lingerie?” I’m like, “No, it’s software.” And she’s like, “You can’t, I’m not going to tell my mom that you bought that. You gotta think of another name.” I’m like, “Crap.” So that was the next best name I came up with was Sublime Net. Like the band Sublime. That was it. Andrew: And I was going to ask you what it was, but it was lots of different things. Every screenshot on there is a whole other business under the same name. What are the businesses? Do you remember? Russell: There was website hosting, there was affiliates sites, there were, I can’t even remember now, trying to remember. Everything I could think of, resell rights…. Andrew: Lots of different things. How did you do, how well did you do? Russell: Never anything, very little. I remember the first thing I ever sold was an affiliate product, I made $20 on it through my Paypal account, because I remember that night, I do remember I celebrated. We went out to dinner and I had a Paypal credit card, and we bought dinner with $20 and then the guy refunded the next day. It was so sad. But I was proud that I had made money. Andrew: How did you support yourself while this was not working? Russell: I didn’t. My beautiful wife did, she had 2 jobs at the time to support me while I was wrestling and doing these things. She was the one who made it possible to gamble and risk and try crazy things. Andrew: Can I put you on the spot and ask you to just come over here and just tell me about this period and what you felt at the time? Is that, I know you don’t love being onstage, Russell is good with it, but I know you don’t love it. If you don’t mind, I’m just going to go with one more story and then I’ll come back to you. You cool with it? Good, she seems a little nervous. Actually, wait. Let’s see if we can get her right now. Oh you are, okay. Russell: Everyone, this is Collette, my beautiful wife. Andrew: Do you want to use his mic? Collette: Sure. Russell: She’s so mad at me right now. Collette: I wanted to come to this, who knew? Andrew: You are like his, he’s so proud that he had no venture funding. But you are like his first investor. Russell: That is true. Collette: Yes, I’ll be his first investor. Andrew: Can you hold the mic a little closer. How did you know he wasn’t a loser? No job, he’s wrestling, he’s buying infomercial stuff that doesn’t go anywhere. We know he did well, so we’re not insulting him now, but what did you see in him back then that let you say, ‘I’m going to work extra hard and pay for what he’s not doing?’ Collette: What did I see in him? It was actually his energy, his spirit, because I’m not going to lie, it was kind of not love at first site, we had, we were geeko’s, do you know what I mean? Shopped at the Goodwill, in baggy pants and tshirts, I don’t know. But it was the person who just was always positive and we had the same goals. Andrew: That’s the thing I noticed too, the positivity. When these businesses fail, we’re showing the few on the screen, it’s easy to look back and go, ‘ha ha, I did this and it was interesting.’ But at the time, what was the bounce back like when things didn’t work out? When the world basically said, you know what as sales people, when they don’t buy your stuff it’s like they don’t buy you. When the world basically said, ‘we don’t like you. We don’t like what you’ve created.’ What was the bounce back like? Hard? Collette: No, because I come from a hard working family. So I work hard. So you just work hard to make it work. Andrew: And he’s just an eternal optimistic, and you’re an eternal optimist too, like genuinely, really? Collette: Yeah, I guess. It works. Andrew: His dad said, ‘No more money. You had to cut up your credit cards too.’ Collette: Yeah. Andrew: What was, how did you cut up your credit cards. What was that day like? Collette: Hard. Yeah hard. Those that don’t know, I’m a little bit older than Russell. So I’ve always had this little bit of independency to go do and buy and do these things, and then all the sudden I’m like, step back sista! You gotta take care of this young man, so we can get to where we’re at. Anyway, but now… Andrew: Now things are good? Collette: Now things are amazing. Andrew: Alright, give her a big round of applause. Thanks for coming up here. These businesses did okay, and then you started something that I never heard about, but look at this. I’m going to zoom in on a section of the Google doc you sent me. This is the call center. The call center got to how many employees? 100? Russell: We had about 60 full time sales people, 20 full time coaches, and about 20 people doing the marketing and sales, so about 100 people in the whole company, yeah. Andrew: 100 people doing what kind of call center, what kind of work? Russell: So what we would do, we would sell free CDs and things like that online, free CDs, free books, free whatever, and then when someone would buy it we’d call them on the phone, and then we’d offer them high end coaching. Andrew: And this was you getting customers, how? Russell: Man, back then it was pre-facebook. So a lot of it was Google, it was email lists, it was anything we could figure out to drive traffic, all sorts of weird stuff. Andrew: And then people come in, get a free CD, sign up for coaching, and then you had to hire people and teach them how to coach? How did you do that. Russell: Yeah, that was the hard thing. When we first started doing it, I was just doing the coaching. People would come in and we had a little, Brent and some of you guys remember the little offices we had, and we’d bring people in and we were so proud of our little office. And they’d come in and we’d teach them for 2 or 3 days, teach an event for them, and then as it got bigger it was harder and harder for me to do that. So eventually, and a lot of people didn’t want to come to Boise. I love Boise, but it’s really hard to get to. So people would sign up for coaching, and then they’d never show up to Boise and then a year later they’d want their money back. So we’re like, we have to get something where they’re getting fulfilled whether they showed up to Boise or now. So we started doing phone coaching, and at first it was me, and then it was me and a couple other people, and then we started training more coaches, and that’s kind of how it started. It was one of those things though, at  first it was just like 5 or 6 of us in a room doing it, and it worked and so then the next logical thing is, we should go from 5 people to 10 to 20 and next thing you know, we wake up with 100 people. I’m like, what are we doing? We’re little kids, it scares me that I’m in charge of all these people’s livelihood, but that’s kind of where it was at and it got kind of scary for me. Andrew: Sometimes I wonder if I’m hiding behind interviewing because I’m afraid to stand up and say, ‘here’s what I want. Here’s what I think we need to do. Here’s how the world should be.’ So I’m amazed that even back then, after having a few businesses that didn’t really work out, you were comfortable enough to say, ‘Come to my office, I’m going to teach you. I’ve got it figured out.’ When you hadn’t.  How did you get yourself comfortable, and what made you feel comfortable about being able to say, ‘I could teach these people. Come to my office.’ Who call up, who then become my coaches, who then have to teach other people? Russell: I think for me it was like, when I first started learning the online stuff and entrepreneurship, I think most people feel this, it’s so exciting you want to tell everybody about it. So I’m telling my friends and my family and nobody cares at first. And you’re like, I have to share this gift I’ve figured out, it’s amazing. And nobody cares. And then the first time somebody cares, and you just dump on them, you want to show it to them. So I hadn’t made tons of money, but I had a lot of these little websites that had done, $30 grand, $50 grand, $100 grand. So for me it was like, if I can show these people, I know what that did for me, it gave me the spark to want to do the next one and the next one. So for me it was like I want to share this because I feel like I figured it out. So that was the thing coming in. We weren’t teaching people how to build a hundred million dollar company, but we’re like, “Hey, you can quit your job. You can make 2 or 3 thousand dollars a month, you can quit your job, and this is how I did it. This is the process.” So that’s what we were showing people. Just the foundation of how we did it, and we showed other people, because they cared and it was exciting to share it with other people. Andrew: Is Whitney here? There she is. I met her as she was coming in. I wanted to get to know why people were coming to watch this, what they wanted to hear from you. And Whitney was asking about the difficult period, the why. I’m wondering the same thing that she and I were talking about, which is why put yourself through this? You could have gotten a job, you could have done okay, why put yourself through the risk of hiring people, the eventual as we’ll see, closing of the company, what was your motivation? What was the goal? Why did you want to do it? Russell: I think it shifts throughout time. I think most entrepreneurs when they first get started, it’s because of money. They’re like, ‘I want to make money.’ And then you get that and then really quick, that doesn’t last very long. And then it’s like, then for me it was like, I want to share that with other people. And then when other people get it, there’s something about that aha moment where you’re like, oh my gosh they got it. They got what I was saying. And that for me was like the next level, the next high. It was just like, ah, I love that. And back then we had some success stories coming through, but now days, it’s like the bigger success stories come through and that’s what drives it on. That is the fascinating part. That’s why we keep, because most software company owners don’t keep creating books, and courses and inter….but when people have the aha, oh my gosh, that’s the best for me. Andrew: That’s the thing, you get the high of the thing that you wanted when you were growing up, that you wanted someone to show it to you, and if you could then genuinely give it them, not like Don Lepre. But Don Lepre plus actual results, that’s what fires you up. Russell: That does fire me up. That’s amazing. Andrew: What happened? Why did that close down? Russell: Oh man, a lot of things. A lot of bad mistakes, a lot of first time growing a company stuff that I didn’t, again, we just woke up one day it felt like, and we were in this huge office, huge overhead, and about that time, it was 99, 2000 something like that, and there was the merchant account that me and most of the people doing internet marketing at the time, we all used the same merchant account, and they got hit by Visa and Mastercard, so they freaked out and shut down. I think it ended up being 4 or 5 merchant accounts overnight, and we had 9 different merchant accounts with that company, and all of them got shut down instantly. I remember because everything was fine, we were going through the day and it was like 1:00 in the afternoon on a Friday. They came in like, “None of the, the cards won’t process.” And I’m like, couldn’t figure out why they weren’t processing. We tried to call the company and no one’s answering at the company. Finally we get someone on the phone and they’re like, “Yep, you got shut down along with all the other scammers.” And then she hung up on me. And I was like, I don’t know what to do right now. I’ve got 100+ people and payroll is not small, and we didn’t have a ton of cash in the bank, it was more of a cash flow business. And Collette actually just left town that night, and she was gone. I remember Avatar just came out, and everyone was going to the movie Avatar that night, and I remember sitting there during the longest movie of all time, and I don’t remember anything other than the sick feeling in my stomach. I was texting everyone I know, trying to see if anyone knew what to do. And everyone was like, “We got shut down too.” “We got shut down.” Everyone got shut down. And we couldn’t figure out anything. So we came back the next day and I called everyone up, and actually kind of a funny side story, I had just met Tony Robbins a little prior, earlier to this. So that night I was laying in bed, it was like 4 in the morning, and my phone rings and I look at it and it was Tony Robbins’ assistant. And I pick it up and he’s like, “Hey, is there any way you can be in Vegas in three hours? There’s a plane from Boise to Vegas and Tony wants you to speak at this event. It’s starting in three hours. You need to be on stage in three hours.” I’m sitting here like, my whole world just collapsed, I’m laying in bed sick to my stomach and I’m like, “I don’t think I can. I have to figure this thing out.” And then he tells Tony, and they call me back. “Tony says if your business is…if you can’t make it, don’t show up. You’re fine.” So I didn’t go and then the next morning I woke up and there was a message on my phone that I’d missed. I passed out and I woke up and it was a message from Tony. And he was like, “Hey man, I know that you care about your customers, you care about things. I don’t know the whole situation, but worst case scenario, if you need help let me know, and we can absorb you into Robbins research or whatever and you can be one of my companies, and that way if you want, we can protect you.” And I heard that and I was like, “Okay, that’s the worst case scenario, I get to work with Tony Robbins? That’s the worst case scenario.” So then I called up everyone on my team and I was like, “Okay guys, we gotta try to figure out how to save this.” And Brent and John and everyone, we came back to my house and I was like, “Okay, what ideas do we got?” And we just sat there for the next 5 or 6 hours trying to figure stuff out. And then we went to work, and I wish I could say that everything turned around, but it was the next probably 2 or 3 years of us firing 30 people, firing 20 people, closing things down, moving down offices. Just shrinking for a long, long time, until the peak of it, it was about a year after that moment, and we were in an event in Vegas trying to figure out how to save stuff, and I got an email from my dad who was helping with the books at the time, and he said, “Hey, I got really bad news for you. I looked through the books and it turns out your assistant who is supposed to be doing payroll taxes, hadn’t paid payroll in over a year. You owe the IRS $170,000 and if you don’t pay this, you’re probably going to go to jail.” And I was like, every penny I’d earned to that point was gone. Everything was done and we’d lost everything and I was just like, I don’t know how to fight this battle, but if I don’t fight it I go to jail apparently. And I remember that’s a really crappy feeling. Brent, some of you guys are reliving this with me right now, I know. I remember going back that night, laying in bed and I was just like, “I wish I had a boss that could fire me, because I don’t know what to do, how to do it.” And that was kind of, that was definitely the lowest spot for me. Andrew: And you stuck with him? Wow, yeah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0000 ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 1 of 4 (Revisited!) full 438 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy part one of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Good morning... Enjoy part one of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Good morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. And you guys are in for a very special treat over the next four episodes. So let me give you some context on what’s going to happen, and why you should be so excited. Alright so, my favorite podcast, other than mine of course, that all of you guys should be subscribed to is called Mixergy. Andrew Warner is the guy who runs Mixergy podcast and I love that podcast because of Andrew. He is my favorite interviewer. If you look at how a lot of people do interview podcasts, they ask questions and I don’t know, I’ve suffered from this in the past as well. I’m not a good interviewer, at least not now. I’d like to learn how to do that skill, but I’m not a great interviewer. And most people who do podcasts with interviews aren’t like great interviewers, but Andrew is like the best interviewer I’ve ever seen. The way he asks questions, how deep he goes and the research he does before the interviews, and all sorts of stuff. Anyway, I love his style, love how he does it so what’s cool, I’ve actually been on the show twice in the past. And the first time, I don’t even, sorry, the second time, he totally caught me off guard. I remember he asked me some questions and I didn’t really know and I responded and he told me after, he told me live on the interview that he doesn’t edit his interviews. He was like, “Well, that was the worst answer you’ve ever given.” I was like, “Oh, thanks.” Anyway, it just totally caught me off guard, but it was cool the way that he just like kind of holds your feet to the fire. So a little while ago I thought, I want to tell the Clickfunnels startup story. But I didn’t want me to just to tell it, I wanted someone who would tell it from a different angle, who would ask the questions that I think people would want to know and do it in a really cool way. So I called Andrew and I’m like, “Hey, I’ve been wanting to do this thing, and I want to do an event around it. Would you be interested.” And he was like, luckily he said yes. So it’s funny, Andrew’s famous, I think I might have talked about this in the interview too, but he’s famous for these scotch nights he does, and as a Mormon I don’t drink so I can’t go to his scotch nights. So when we planned this interview, we planned it in Provo, Utah at this place called the Dry Bar Comedy Club. So a dry bar is a bar with no alcohol. So it was kind of a funny thing. We brought those two things, my world and his world together in this one spot to a dry bar, and told the Clickfunnels startup story. And it was cool, ahead of time he did so much research. He interviewed people who love me, people who hated me, he interviewed our old business partners who are no longer part of the business. He did everything and then he came and I told him, “Everything’s, you can ask me any question you want. Nothing, no holds barred, feel free to do whatever you want.” So we did the interview and it was about two hours long, and I loved it. I think it turned out amazing. And I hope you guys like it too. So I’ll tell you some of the details about the Clickfunnels startup story. How we built what we did, what happened, the ups, the downs, the negatives, the positives. He brings a couple of people up onstage to tell their parts of the story. Anyway, I really hope you enjoy it. So what we’re going to do, I’m going to have each episode over the next four episodes be about thirty minutes long so you can listen to them in pieces. I hope iyou enjoy them, I hope you love them. And if you do, please, please, please take a screen shot of your phone when you’re listening to it, and go post it on Instagram or Facebook and tag me. And then do hashtag marketing secrets and hopefully that will get more people to listen to the podcast. And then please, if you haven’t yet, go rate and review, which would be amazing. So with that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song and when we come back we will start immediately into part one of four of the Dry Bar Comedy Club Interview. Keith Yacky: Clickfunnels has changed a lot of our lives. We all have an origin story. Mine was something similar to, I set up my website on GoDaddy and things were going great. And then Dave Woodward was like, “Dude, you need Clickfunnels.” I’m like, “I don’t need a Clickfunnel. I don’t even know what a Clickfunnel is.” And he’s like, “No, seriously man. This is going to totally change your business.” I’m like, “Bro, I have GoDaddy. They have a commercial on the Super Bowl, Clickfunnels doesn’t. But when they do, I’ll do it.” Well, boy was I wrong. I changed over and it absolutely changed our business and changed our lives. So thank you for that, Dave. But here’s the thing, in every industry there’s somebody that comes along that really disrupts the industry, that really changes it, and that really does something amazing for that industry. And as we all, why we’re here, we know that person is Russell Brunson. And he has changed a lot of our lives. So before I bring him up here, they have asked me to ask you to make sure you don’t do any live recording of this next interview, because the gloves are coming off and they want to be able to present it to the world. You can do little Instagram clips if you’d like, like 15 second ones and tag them. My understanding is the best hashtag and the best clip, gets a date with Drew. I don’t know, that’s just what they told me. So blame them. But with that, again, no videoing, and let us just absolutely take the roof off this place as we bring up our beloved Russell Brunson. Give it up guys. Russell: Alright, well thanks for coming you guys. This is so cool. I’m excited to be here. So a couple of real quick things before we get started. For all of you guys who know, who came to be part of this, we had you all donate a little bit of money towards Operation Underground Railroad, and I’m really excited because Melanie told me right before I got here the total of how much money we raised from this little event for them. So I think the final number was a little over $13,000 was raised for Operation Underground Railroad. So thank you guys for your continued support with them. Just to put that in perspective, that’s enough money to save about 5 children from sex slavery. So it’s a big deal and a life changing thing, so it’s pretty special. So I’m grateful for you guys donating money to come here. And hopefully you’ve had a good time so far. Has it been fun? I really want to tuck my shirt in now, I’m feeling kind of awkward. No it’s been awesome. Okay so what we’re going to do now, I want to introduce the person who’s going to be doing the interview tonight. And it’s somebody I’m really excited to have here. In fact, I met him for the first time like an hour ago, in person. But I want to tell kind of the reason why I wanted him to do this, and why we’re all here. And I’m grateful he said yes, and was willing to come out here and kind of do this. So Andrew runs a podcast called Mixergy. How many of you guys in here are Mixergy listeners? Mixergy is my favorite podcast, I love it. He’s interviewed thousands of people about their startup stories and about how they started their businesses. And it’s really cool because he brings in entrepreneurs and he tells, gets them to tell their stories. But what’s unique about what Andrew does that’s fascinating, the way he interviews people is completely different, it’s unique. I listen to a lot of podcasts and I don’t like a lot of interview shows because a lot of them are just kind of high level. Everyone you listen to with Andrew, he gets really, really deep. The other fun thing is he doesn’t edit his interviews. So there was one interview, I’ll tease him about this right now. But I was listening to it on my headphones, and him and the guest got in kind of an argument and a fight and then it just ended and they aired it. I was like, “I can’t believe you aired that, it was amazing.” And then I was on his podcast a little while later, and he asked me some questions that I couldn’t quite understand perfectly, so I was trying to respond the best I could and kind of fumbled through it. And instead of letting me off the hook, his response was, “Man Russell, that was probably the worst answer I’ve ever heard you give in any interview ever.” And I was like, “Oh my gosh.” So I’m excited for tonight because I told it was like no holds barred and he could ask me anything he wants about the ups of Clickfunnels, the downs of Clickfunnels and anything else, and it’s going to be a lot of fun. So I’m excited to have him here. So with that said, let’s put our hands together for Mr. Andrew Warner. Andrew Warner: I think my mic is right over here. Thank you everyone, thanks Russell for having me here. Most people will contact me after I interview them and say, “Could you please not air the interview?” And you actually had me back here to do it in person. And you were so nice, you even got us this room here. Check this out, they set us up, they’re so nice at Clickfunnels. They said, “Andrew, you’re staying here, we’re going to put you and your family up the night before in a room.” My wife was so good, look that’s her journaling. My kids were playing around, sleeping in the same, sleeping together, enjoying themselves. And then I went to call somebody who was basically let go from Clickfunnels. And my wife goes, “Andrew, why do you have to do that? That’s not why they invited you here.” And I said, “I do know Russell. I know the team. They actually did invite me to really help get to the story of how Clickfunnels started, how it built up.” And the reason I was up calling people, understanding the story is because I want to make it meaningful for you. I’ve talked to a lot of you as you were coming in here, you want to know how they got here, what worked for Clickfunnels, what would work for us. So that’s my goal here, to spend the time understanding by interviewing you about how you did it. So I want to go way back to a guy a few of you might recognize, and I know you would, and ask you what drew you to this guy when you were younger? Russell: Don Lepre Clip: “One tiny classified ad in the newspaper that makes just 30-40 dollars profit in a week, it could make you a fortune, because the secret is learning how to take that one tiny classified that just made 30-40 dollars profit in a week, and to realize that you could now take that same exact ad and place it in up to 3,000 other newspapers around the country….” Russell: I’m having nostalgia right now. So this is the story of that, I was 12, 13 years old, something like that, and I was watching the news with my dad. And usually he’s like, “Go to bed Russell.” And he didn’t that night and then the news got over and I think he thought I was asleep and Mash came on. So Mash started playing and then it got over, and then this infomercial showed up. And I’m laying there on the couch watching Don Lepre talk about tiny classified ads, I was totally freaking out and I jumped up and begged my dad to buy it and he said no. And I was like, “Are you kidding? Did you not listen to what he said?” Did you guys just hear that? That was a good pitch huh? It’s really good. I love a good pitch. It is so good. So I went and asked my dad if I could earn the money. So I went and mowed lawns and earned the money and ordered the kit and I still have the original books to this day. Andrew: Were you disappointed? I bought it too. It was the dream of being able to do it. Russell: That’s why I like you so much, that’s amazing. Andrew: And it’s just, all he sent you was a bunch of paper guides with how to buy ads, right. Were you disappointed when you got that? Russell: No, I was excited. I think for me because the vision was cast, it was like, he said right there word for word, you make 40 dollars a newspaper, and if you’re disappointed, but he put that same ad in 3,000 newspapers, imagine that. So I had the vision of that, I think the only thing I was disappointed in, I didn’t have any money to actually buy an ad. And that was more like, I can’t actually do it now. Andrew: You are a champion wrestler and then you got here. Is your wife here? Russell: My beautiful wife right here, Collette. Andrew: Hey Collette. And your dad had a conversation with you about money, what did he say? Russell: So up to that point my dad had supported me, and I figured he would the rest of my life, I think. I don’t know. So I was 21 almost 22 at this time, I was wrestling so I couldn’t get a job because I was wrestling all the time. Then I met Collette, fell in love with her and then I called my parents and I was like, “Hey, I’m going to marry her. I’m going propose to her and everything.” Expecting them to be like, “Sweet, that’ll be awesome.” And my mom was all excited, I’m not going to lie. But then my dad was like, “Just so you know if you get married, you have to be a man now. You have to support yourself.” And I was like, “I don’t know how to do that, I’m wrestling.” And he’s like, “Well, I’m not going to keep paying for you to do it.” I’m like, “But I literally got the ring. I have, I can’t not propose now.” So that was kind of the thing. So it was interesting because about that time there was another infomercial, there’s the pattern, about I can’t remember exactly the name of the company, but they were doing an event at the local Holiday inn that was like, “Hey, you’re going to build websites and make money.” And it was like the night or two days after I told my dad this and he was like, “you’re in trouble.” And all the sudden I saw that, so I was like, there’s the answer. So I’m at the holiday in two days later, sitting in the room, hearing the pitch, signing up for stuff I shouldn’t have bought. There’s the pattern. Andrew: Did you feel like a loser getting married at 22 and still counting on your dad for money? Did you feel like you were marrying a loser? Russell: Actually, this is a sad story because she actually, my roommate at the time, she actually asked him, “Do you think he’s going to be able to support me in the future?” and he was like, “Yeah, I think so.” I’m like, I didn’t know this until later. I don’t think I felt like a loser, but I definitely was nervous, like oh my gosh. Because my whole identity at that point in my life was I was a wrestler and if that was to disappear…I couldn’t have that disappear. So I was like, I have to figure out something. There’s gotta be some way to do both. Andrew: To both what? To be a wrestler and make money from some infomercial? Russell: I didn’t know that was going to be the path, but yeah. Andrew: But you knew you were going to do something. What did you think that was going to be? Russell: I wasn’t sure. When I went to the event, they were selling these time share books and you could buy resale rights to them, so I was like, oh. And I remember back, because I remembered the Don Lepre stuff, so I was like, maybe I could buy classified ads and sell these things. And then I was at the event and they were talking about websites, and that was the first thing I’d heard about websites. And they’re talking about Google and the beginnings of this whole internet thing. So I was like, I can do that. It made all logical sense to me, I just didn’t know how to do it. I just knew that that was going to be the only path because if I had to get a job I wouldn’t be able to wrestle. So I was like, I have to figure out something that’s not going to be a 40 hour thing because I’m spending that time wrestling and going to school. So I had to figure out the best of how to do both. Andrew: And you obviously found it. My goal today is to go through this process of finding it. But let me skip ahead a little bit. What is this website? Russell: Oh man, alright. This is actually, the back story behind this is there was a guy named Vince James who wrote a book called the Twelve Month Millionaire. And if anybody’s got that book, it’s fat like a phone book. It’s a huge book. I read and I was like, this book’s amazing. And at the time I was an affiliate marketer, so I had a little bit, maybe a thousand people on my list. So I called up Vince and I was like, “Hey, can I interview you about the book and then I’ll use that as a tool to sell more copies of your book?” and he was like, “Sure.” So he jumped on the phone with me on a Saturday and he spent 3 hours letting me interview with any questions I had. And I got to the end of it and I still had a ton of questions and he’s like, “Well come back next week and do it again.” So I interviewed him for 6 hours about it. And then we used that to sell some copies of his book and then it just sat there, probably for 2 or 3 years as I was trying different ideas, different businesses and things like that. But every time I would talk to people I would tell them about this interview. I’m like, “I interviewed this guy who made a hundred million dollars through direct mail.” And everyone wanted to hear the interview, everybody asked me for it. So one day I was like, “Let’s just make that the product.” And we put it up here and this was the very first funnel we had that did over a million dollars, my first Two Comma Club funnel. Andrew: A million dollars. Do you remember what that felt like? Russell: It was amazing because it was funny back then. There were people, a few people who were making a lot of money online that I was watching and just idolizing everything they’d do. I was trying to model what they were doing. And I’d had little wins, you know $10,000 here, $15,000 here, but this was by far the first one that just hit. Everyone was so excited. Andrew: How’d you celebrate? Russell: I don’t even remember how we celebrated. Andrew: You married a winner after all. I mean really. Do you remember what you guys did to celebrate? No. Russell: I don’t even remember. (audience responding, inaudible) It was in my list. That’s a good question. Andrew: It’ll come up, that list is going to come up in a second too. You ended up creating Clickfunnels. How much revenue are you guys doing now, 2018? Russell: 2018 we’ll pass over a hundred million dollars, this year. Andrew:  A hundred million dollars, wowee. How far have you come? Russell: Like when did we start? Andrew: Today revenue, as of today, October 2018? Russell: Oh this year? Oh from the beginning of time until now? Andrew: No, no I mean I want to know, you’re going to do a hundred million dollars, are you at 10 and you’re hoping to get…. Russell: These guys know better than me, do you know exactly where we’re at right now? 83 million for the year. Andrew: 83! I love that Dave knows that right, so I want to know how you got to that. I went through your site, pages and pages that look like this. It’s like long form sales letters. I asked my assistant to take pictures, she said, “This is, I can’t do it, it’s too many.” Look at this guys. I asked him to help me figure out what he did. He created this list, this is not the full list, look at this. Every blue line is him finding an old archive of a page he created. It goes on and on like this. How long did it take you to put that together? Russell: It was probably 5 or 6 hours just to find all the pages. Andrew: 5 or 6 hours you spent to find these images to help me tell the story. Years and years of doing this, a lot of failure, what amazes me is you didn’t feel jaded and let down after Don Lepre sold you that stuff. You didn’t feel jaded and let down and say, ‘This whole make money thing is a failure.’ After, and we’re going to talk about some of your failures, you just kept going with that same smile, the same eagerness. Alright, let’s start with the very first business. What’s this one? This is called… Russell: Sublime Net. How many of you guys remember Sublime Net out there? Andrew: You guys remember this? Anyone remember it. You do? Russell: John does. So actually this is the first business for the first website I bought. I was so proud of it, and I spent, I don’t know, I wanted to sell software so I was like, ‘what could I name my company?” So I figured out Exciting Software. So I went to buy Exciteware.com, but it wasn’t for sale. So I bought Exciteware.net and Collette was working at the time and she came home and I was so excited, I’m like, “We got our first website. We’re going to be rich.”  And I told her the name, I was like, “It’s Exciteware.net.” and she looked at me with this look like, she’s like, “Are you selling underwear, what is the…lingerie?” I’m like, “No, it’s software.” And she’s like, “You can’t, I’m not going to tell my mom that you bought that. You gotta think of another name.” I’m like, “Crap.” So that was the next best name I came up with was Sublime Net. Like the band Sublime. That was it. Andrew: And I was going to ask you what it was, but it was lots of different things. Every screenshot on there is a whole other business under the same name. What are the businesses? Do you remember? Russell: There was website hosting, there was affiliates sites, there were, I can’t even remember now, trying to remember. Everything I could think of, resell rights…. Andrew: Lots of different things. How did you do, how well did you do? Russell: Never anything, very little. I remember the first thing I ever sold was an affiliate product, I made $20 on it through my Paypal account, because I remember that night, I do remember I celebrated. We went out to dinner and I had a Paypal credit card, and we bought dinner with $20 and then the guy refunded the next day. It was so sad. But I was proud that I had made money. Andrew: How did you support yourself while this was not working? Russell: I didn’t. My beautiful wife did, she had 2 jobs at the time to support me while I was wrestling and doing these things. She was the one who made it possible to gamble and risk and try crazy things. Andrew: Can I put you on the spot and ask you to just come over here and just tell me about this period and what you felt at the time? Is that, I know you don’t love being onstage, Russell is good with it, but I know you don’t love it. If you don’t mind, I’m just going to go with one more story and then I’ll come back to you. You cool with it? Good, she seems a little nervous. Actually, wait. Let’s see if we can get her right now. Oh you are, okay. Russell: Everyone, this is Collette, my beautiful wife. Andrew: Do you want to use his mic? Collette: Sure. Russell: She’s so mad at me right now. Collette: I wanted to come to this, who knew? Andrew: You are like his, he’s so proud that he had no venture funding. But you are like his first investor. Russell: That is true. Collette: Yes, I’ll be his first investor. Andrew: Can you hold the mic a little closer. How did you know he wasn’t a loser? No job, he’s wrestling, he’s buying infomercial stuff that doesn’t go anywhere. We know he did well, so we’re not insulting him now, but what did you see in him back then that let you say, ‘I’m going to work extra hard and pay for what he’s not doing?’ Collette: What did I see in him? It was actually his energy, his spirit, because I’m not going to lie, it was kind of not love at first site, we had, we were geeko’s, do you know what I mean? Shopped at the Goodwill, in baggy pants and tshirts, I don’t know. But it was the person who just was always positive and we had the same goals. Andrew: That’s the thing I noticed too, the positivity. When these businesses fail, we’re showing the few on the screen, it’s easy to look back and go, ‘ha ha, I did this and it was interesting.’ But at the time, what was the bounce back like when things didn’t work out? When the world basically said, you know what as sales people, when they don’t buy your stuff it’s like they don’t buy you. When the world basically said, ‘we don’t like you. We don’t like what you’ve created.’ What was the bounce back like? Hard? Collette: No, because I come from a hard working family. So I work hard. So you just work hard to make it work. Andrew: And he’s just an eternal optimistic, and you’re an eternal optimist too, like genuinely, really? Collette: Yeah, I guess. It works. Andrew: His dad said, ‘No more money. You had to cut up your credit cards too.’ Collette: Yeah. Andrew: What was, how did you cut up your credit cards. What was that day like? Collette: Hard. Yeah hard. Those that don’t know, I’m a little bit older than Russell. So I’ve always had this little bit of independency to go do and buy and do these things, and then all the sudden I’m like, step back sista! You gotta take care of this young man, so we can get to where we’re at. Anyway, but now… Andrew: Now things are good? Collette: Now things are amazing. Andrew: Alright, give her a big round of applause. Thanks for coming up here. These businesses did okay, and then you started something that I never heard about, but look at this. I’m going to zoom in on a section of the Google doc you sent me. This is the call center. The call center got to how many employees? 100? Russell: We had about 60 full time sales people, 20 full time coaches, and about 20 people doing the marketing and sales, so about 100 people in the whole company, yeah. Andrew: 100 people doing what kind of call center, what kind of work? Russell: So what we would do, we would sell free CDs and things like that online, free CDs, free books, free whatever, and then when someone would buy it we’d call them on the phone, and then we’d offer them high end coaching. Andrew: And this was you getting customers, how? Russell: Man, back then it was pre-facebook. So a lot of it was Google, it was email lists, it was anything we could figure out to drive traffic, all sorts of weird stuff. Andrew: And then people come in, get a free CD, sign up for coaching, and then you had to hire people and teach them how to coach? How did you do that. Russell: Yeah, that was the hard thing. When we first started doing it, I was just doing the coaching. People would come in and we had a little, Brent and some of you guys remember the little offices we had, and we’d bring people in and we were so proud of our little office. And they’d come in and we’d teach them for 2 or 3 days, teach an event for them, and then as it got bigger it was harder and harder for me to do that. So eventually, and a lot of people didn’t want to come to Boise. I love Boise, but it’s really hard to get to. So people would sign up for coaching, and then they’d never show up to Boise and then a year later they’d want their money back. So we’re like, we have to get something where they’re getting fulfilled whether they showed up to Boise or now. So we started doing phone coaching, and at first it was me, and then it was me and a couple other people, and then we started training more coaches, and that’s kind of how it started. It was one of those things though, at  first it was just like 5 or 6 of us in a room doing it, and it worked and so then the next logical thing is, we should go from 5 people to 10 to 20 and next thing you know, we wake up with 100 people. I’m like, what are we doing? We’re little kids, it scares me that I’m in charge of all these people’s livelihood, but that’s kind of where it was at and it got kind of scary for me. Andrew: Sometimes I wonder if I’m hiding behind interviewing because I’m afraid to stand up and say, ‘here’s what I want. Here’s what I think we need to do. Here’s how the world should be.’ So I’m amazed that even back then, after having a few businesses that didn’t really work out, you were comfortable enough to say, ‘Come to my office, I’m going to teach you. I’ve got it figured out.’ When you hadn’t.  How did you get yourself comfortable, and what made you feel comfortable about being able to say, ‘I could teach these people. Come to my office.’ Who call up, who then become my coaches, who then have to teach other people? Russell: I think for me it was like, when I first started learning the online stuff and entrepreneurship, I think most people feel this, it’s so exciting you want to tell everybody about it. So I’m telling my friends and my family and nobody cares at first. And you’re like, I have to share this gift I’ve figured out, it’s amazing. And nobody cares. And then the first time somebody cares, and you just dump on them, you want to show it to them. So I hadn’t made tons of money, but I had a lot of these little websites that had done, $30 grand, $50 grand, $100 grand. So for me it was like, if I can show these people, I know what that did for me, it gave me the spark to want to do the next one and the next one. So for me it was like I want to share this because I feel like I figured it out. So that was the thing coming in. We weren’t teaching people how to build a hundred million dollar company, but we’re like, “Hey, you can quit your job. You can make 2 or 3 thousand dollars a month, you can quit your job, and this is how I did it. This is the process.” So that’s what we were showing people. Just the foundation of how we did it, and we showed other people, because they cared and it was exciting to share it with other people. Andrew: Is Whitney here? There she is. I met her as she was coming in. I wanted to get to know why people were coming to watch this, what they wanted to hear from you. And Whitney was asking about the difficult period, the why. I’m wondering the same thing that she and I were talking about, which is why put yourself through this? You could have gotten a job, you could have done okay, why put yourself through the risk of hiring people, the eventual as we’ll see, closing of the company, what was your motivation? What was the goal? Why did you want to do it? Russell: I think it shifts throughout time. I think most entrepreneurs when they first get started, it’s because of money. They’re like, ‘I want to make money.’ And then you get that and then really quick, that doesn’t last very long. And then it’s like, then for me it was like, I want to share that with other people. And then when other people get it, there’s something about that aha moment where you’re like, oh my gosh they got it. They got what I was saying. And that for me was like the next level, the next high. It was just like, ah, I love that. And back then we had some success stories coming through, but now days, it’s like the bigger success stories come through and that’s what drives it on. That is the fascinating part. That’s why we keep, because most software company owners don’t keep creating books, and courses and inter….but when people have the aha, oh my gosh, that’s the best for me. Andrew: That’s the thing, you get the high of the thing that you wanted when you were growing up, that you wanted someone to show it to you, and if you could then genuinely give it them, not like Don Lepre. But Don Lepre plus actual results, that’s what fires you up. Russell: That does fire me up. That’s amazing. Andrew: What happened? Why did that close down? Russell: Oh man, a lot of things. A lot of bad mistakes, a lot of first time growing a company stuff that I didn’t, again, we just woke up one day it felt like, and we were in this huge office, huge overhead, and about that time, it was 99, 2000 something like that, and there was the merchant account that me and most of the people doing internet marketing at the time, we all used the same merchant account, and they got hit by Visa and Mastercard, so they freaked out and shut down. I think it ended up being 4 or 5 merchant accounts overnight, and we had 9 different merchant accounts with that company, and all of them got shut down instantly. I remember because everything was fine, we were going through the day and it was like 1:00 in the afternoon on a Friday. They came in like, “None of the, the cards won’t process.” And I’m like, couldn’t figure out why they weren’t processing. We tried to call the company and no one’s answering at the company. Finally we get someone on the phone and they’re like, “Yep, you got shut down along with all the other scammers.” And then she hung up on me. And I was like, I don’t know what to do right now. I’ve got 100+ people and payroll is not small, and we didn’t have a ton of cash in the bank, it was more of a cash flow business. And Collette actually just left town that night, and she was gone. I remember Avatar just came out, and everyone was going to the movie Avatar that night, and I remember sitting there during the longest movie of all time, and I don’t remember anything other than the sick feeling in my stomach. I was texting everyone I know, trying to see if anyone knew what to do. And everyone was like, “We got shut down too.” “We got shut down.” Everyone got shut down. And we couldn’t figure out anything. So we came back the next day and I called everyone up, and actually kind of a funny side story, I had just met Tony Robbins a little prior, earlier to this. So that night I was laying in bed, it was like 4 in the morning, and my phone rings and I look at it and it was Tony Robbins’ assistant. And I pick it up and he’s like, “Hey, is there any way you can be in Vegas in three hours? There’s a plane from Boise to Vegas and Tony wants you to speak at this event. It’s starting in three hours. You need to be on stage in three hours.” I’m sitting here like, my whole world just collapsed, I’m laying in bed sick to my stomach and I’m like, “I don’t think I can. I have to figure this thing out.” And then he tells Tony, and they call me back. “Tony says if your business is…if you can’t make it, don’t show up. You’re fine.” So I didn’t go and then the next morning I woke up and there was a message on my phone that I’d missed. I passed out and I woke up and it was a message from Tony. And he was like, “Hey man, I know that you care about your customers, you care about things. I don’t know the whole situation, but worst case scenario, if you need help let me know, and we can absorb you into Robbins research or whatever and you can be one of my companies, and that way if you want, we can protect you.” And I heard that and I was like, “Okay, that’s the worst case scenario, I get to work with Tony Robbins? That’s the worst case scenario.” So then I called up everyone on my team and I was like, “Okay guys, we gotta try to figure out how to save this.” And Brent and John and everyone, we came back to my house and I was like, “Okay, what ideas do we got?” And we just sat there for the next 5 or 6 hours trying to figure stuff out. And then we went to work, and I wish I could say that everything turned around, but it was the next probably 2 or 3 years of us firing 30 people, firing 20 people, closing things down, moving down offices. Just shrinking for a long, long time, until the peak of it, it was about a year after that moment, and we were in an event in Vegas trying to figure out how to save stuff, and I got an email from my dad who was helping with the books at the time, and he said, “Hey, I got really bad news for you. I looked through the books and it turns out your assistant who is supposed to be doing payroll taxes, hadn’t paid payroll in over a year. You owe the IRS $170,000 and if you don’t pay this, you’re probably going to go to jail.” And I was like, every penny I’d earned to that point was gone. Everything was done and we’d lost everything and I was just like, I don’t know how to fight this battle, but if I don’t fight it I go to jail apparently. And I remember that’s a really crappy feeling. Brent, some of you guys are reliving this with me right now, I know. I remember going back that night, laying in bed and I was just like, “I wish I had a boss that could fire me, because I don’t know what to do, how to do it.” And that was kind of, that was definitely the lowest spot for me. Andrew: And you stuck with him? Wow, yeah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Enjoy part one of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story!

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Good morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. And you guys are in for a very special treat over the next four episodes. So let me give you some context on what’s going to happen, and why you should be so excited.

Alright so, my favorite podcast, other than mine of course, that all of you guys should be subscribed to is called Mixergy. Andrew Warner is the guy who runs Mixergy podcast and I love that podcast because of Andrew. He is my favorite interviewer. If you look at how a lot of people do interview podcasts, they ask questions and I don’t know, I’ve suffered from this in the past as well. I’m not a good interviewer, at least not now. I’d like to learn how to do that skill, but I’m not a great interviewer.

And most people who do podcasts with interviews aren’t like great interviewers, but Andrew is like the best interviewer I’ve ever seen. The way he asks questions, how deep he goes and the research he does before the interviews, and all sorts of stuff.

Anyway, I love his style, love how he does it so what’s cool, I’ve actually been on the show twice in the past. And the first time, I don’t even, sorry, the second time, he totally caught me off guard. I remember he asked me some questions and I didn’t really know and I responded and he told me after, he told me live on the interview that he doesn’t edit his interviews. He was like, “Well, that was the worst answer you’ve ever given.” I was like, “Oh, thanks.” Anyway, it just totally caught me off guard, but it was cool the way that he just like kind of holds your feet to the fire.

So a little while ago I thought, I want to tell the Clickfunnels startup story. But I didn’t want me to just to tell it, I wanted someone who would tell it from a different angle, who would ask the questions that I think people would want to know and do it in a really cool way.

So I called Andrew and I’m like, “Hey, I’ve been wanting to do this thing, and I want to do an event around it. Would you be interested.” And he was like, luckily he said yes. So it’s funny, Andrew’s famous, I think I might have talked about this in the interview too, but he’s famous for these scotch nights he does, and as a Mormon I don’t drink so I can’t go to his scotch nights. So when we planned this interview, we planned it in Provo, Utah at this place called the Dry Bar Comedy Club. So a dry bar is a bar with no alcohol.

So it was kind of a funny thing. We brought those two things, my world and his world together in this one spot to a dry bar, and told the Clickfunnels startup story. And it was cool, ahead of time he did so much research. He interviewed people who love me, people who hated me, he interviewed our old business partners who are no longer part of the business. He did everything and then he came and I told him, “Everything’s, you can ask me any question you want. Nothing, no holds barred, feel free to do whatever you want.”

So we did the interview and it was about two hours long, and I loved it. I think it turned out amazing. And I hope you guys like it too. So I’ll tell you some of the details about the Clickfunnels startup story. How we built what we did, what happened, the ups, the downs, the negatives, the positives. He brings a couple of people up onstage to tell their parts of the story. Anyway, I really hope you enjoy it.

So what we’re going to do, I’m going to have each episode over the next four episodes be about thirty minutes long so you can listen to them in pieces. I hope iyou enjoy them, I hope you love them. And if you do, please, please, please take a screen shot of your phone when you’re listening to it, and go post it on Instagram or Facebook and tag me. And then do hashtag marketing secrets and hopefully that will get more people to listen to the podcast. And then please, if you haven’t yet, go rate and review, which would be amazing.

So with that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song and when we come back we will start immediately into part one of four of the Dry Bar Comedy Club Interview.

Keith Yacky: Clickfunnels has changed a lot of our lives. We all have an origin story. Mine was something similar to, I set up my website on GoDaddy and things were going great. And then Dave Woodward was like, “Dude, you need Clickfunnels.” I’m like, “I don’t need a Clickfunnel. I don’t even know what a Clickfunnel is.” And he’s like, “No, seriously man. This is going to totally change your business.” I’m like, “Bro, I have GoDaddy. They have a commercial on the Super Bowl, Clickfunnels doesn’t. But when they do, I’ll do it.”

Well, boy was I wrong. I changed over and it absolutely changed our business and changed our lives. So thank you for that, Dave. But here’s the thing, in every industry there’s somebody that comes along that really disrupts the industry, that really changes it, and that really does something amazing for that industry. And as we all, why we’re here, we know that person is Russell Brunson. And he has changed a lot of our lives. So before I bring him up here, they have asked me to ask you to make sure you don’t do any live recording of this next interview, because the gloves are coming off and they want to be able to present it to the world. You can do little Instagram clips if you’d like, like 15 second ones and tag them. My understanding is the best hashtag and the best clip, gets a date with Drew. I don’t know, that’s just what they told me. So blame them.

But with that, again, no videoing, and let us just absolutely take the roof off this place as we bring up our beloved Russell Brunson. Give it up guys.

Russell: Alright, well thanks for coming you guys. This is so cool. I’m excited to be here. So a couple of real quick things before we get started. For all of you guys who know, who came to be part of this, we had you all donate a little bit of money towards Operation Underground Railroad, and I’m really excited because Melanie told me right before I got here the total of how much money we raised from this little event for them. So I think the final number was a little over $13,000 was raised for Operation Underground Railroad. So thank you guys for your continued support with them.

Just to put that in perspective, that’s enough money to save about 5 children from sex slavery. So it’s a big deal and a life changing thing, so it’s pretty special. So I’m grateful for you guys donating money to come here. And hopefully you’ve had a good time so far. Has it been fun?

I really want to tuck my shirt in now, I’m feeling kind of awkward. No it’s been awesome.

Okay so what we’re going to do now, I want to introduce the person who’s going to be doing the interview tonight. And it’s somebody I’m really excited to have here. In fact, I met him for the first time like an hour ago, in person. But I want to tell kind of the reason why I wanted him to do this, and why we’re all here. And I’m grateful he said yes, and was willing to come out here and kind of do this.

So Andrew runs a podcast called Mixergy. How many of you guys in here are Mixergy listeners? Mixergy is my favorite podcast, I love it. He’s interviewed thousands of people about their startup stories and about how they started their businesses. And it’s really cool because he brings in entrepreneurs and he tells, gets them to tell their stories.

But what’s unique about what Andrew does that’s fascinating, the way he interviews people is completely different, it’s unique. I listen to a lot of podcasts and I don’t like a lot of interview shows because a lot of them are just kind of high level. Everyone you listen to with Andrew, he gets really, really deep. The other fun thing is he doesn’t edit his interviews. So there was one interview, I’ll tease him about this right now. But I was listening to it on my headphones, and him and the guest got in kind of an argument and a fight and then it just ended and they aired it. I was like, “I can’t believe you aired that, it was amazing.”

And then I was on his podcast a little while later, and he asked me some questions that I couldn’t quite understand perfectly, so I was trying to respond the best I could and kind of fumbled through it. And instead of letting me off the hook, his response was, “Man Russell, that was probably the worst answer I’ve ever heard you give in any interview ever.” And I was like, “Oh my gosh.”

So I’m excited for tonight because I told it was like no holds barred and he could ask me anything he wants about the ups of Clickfunnels, the downs of Clickfunnels and anything else, and it’s going to be a lot of fun.

So I’m excited to have him here. So with that said, let’s put our hands together for Mr. Andrew Warner.

Andrew Warner: I think my mic is right over here. Thank you everyone, thanks Russell for having me here. Most people will contact me after I interview them and say, “Could you please not air the interview?” And you actually had me back here to do it in person. And you were so nice, you even got us this room here. Check this out, they set us up, they’re so nice at Clickfunnels. They said, “Andrew, you’re staying here, we’re going to put you and your family up the night before in a room.” My wife was so good, look that’s her journaling. My kids were playing around, sleeping in the same, sleeping together, enjoying themselves.

And then I went to call somebody who was basically let go from Clickfunnels. And my wife goes, “Andrew, why do you have to do that? That’s not why they invited you here.” And I said, “I do know Russell. I know the team. They actually did invite me to really help get to the story of how Clickfunnels started, how it built up.” And the reason I was up calling people, understanding the story is because I want to make it meaningful for you.

I’ve talked to a lot of you as you were coming in here, you want to know how they got here, what worked for Clickfunnels, what would work for us. So that’s my goal here, to spend the time understanding by interviewing you about how you did it.

So I want to go way back to a guy a few of you might recognize, and I know you would, and ask you what drew you to this guy when you were younger?

Russell: Don Lepre

Clip: “One tiny classified ad in the newspaper that makes just 30-40 dollars profit in a week, it could make you a fortune, because the secret is learning how to take that one tiny classified that just made 30-40 dollars profit in a week, and to realize that you could now take that same exact ad and place it in up to 3,000 other newspapers around the country….”

Russell: I’m having nostalgia right now. So this is the story of that, I was 12, 13 years old, something like that, and I was watching the news with my dad. And usually he’s like, “Go to bed Russell.” And he didn’t that night and then the news got over and I think he thought I was asleep and Mash came on. So Mash started playing and then it got over, and then this infomercial showed up. And I’m laying there on the couch watching Don Lepre talk about tiny classified ads, I was totally freaking out and I jumped up and begged my dad to buy it and he said no. And I was like, “Are you kidding? Did you not listen to what he said?” Did you guys just hear that? That was a good pitch huh? It’s really good. I love a good pitch. It is so good.

So I went and asked my dad if I could earn the money. So I went and mowed lawns and earned the money and ordered the kit and I still have the original books to this day.

Andrew: Were you disappointed? I bought it too. It was the dream of being able to do it.

Russell: That’s why I like you so much, that’s amazing.

Andrew: And it’s just, all he sent you was a bunch of paper guides with how to buy ads, right. Were you disappointed when you got that?

Russell: No, I was excited. I think for me because the vision was cast, it was like, he said right there word for word, you make 40 dollars a newspaper, and if you’re disappointed, but he put that same ad in 3,000 newspapers, imagine that. So I had the vision of that, I think the only thing I was disappointed in, I didn’t have any money to actually buy an ad. And that was more like, I can’t actually do it now.

Andrew: You are a champion wrestler and then you got here. Is your wife here?

Russell: My beautiful wife right here, Collette.

Andrew: Hey Collette. And your dad had a conversation with you about money, what did he say?

Russell: So up to that point my dad had supported me, and I figured he would the rest of my life, I think. I don’t know. So I was 21 almost 22 at this time, I was wrestling so I couldn’t get a job because I was wrestling all the time. Then I met Collette, fell in love with her and then I called my parents and I was like, “Hey, I’m going to marry her. I’m going propose to her and everything.” Expecting them to be like, “Sweet, that’ll be awesome.” And my mom was all excited, I’m not going to lie.

But then my dad was like, “Just so you know if you get married, you have to be a man now. You have to support yourself.” And I was like, “I don’t know how to do that, I’m wrestling.” And he’s like, “Well, I’m not going to keep paying for you to do it.” I’m like, “But I literally got the ring. I have, I can’t not propose now.” So that was kind of the thing.

So it was interesting because about that time there was another infomercial, there’s the pattern, about I can’t remember exactly the name of the company, but they were doing an event at the local Holiday inn that was like, “Hey, you’re going to build websites and make money.” And it was like the night or two days after I told my dad this and he was like, “you’re in trouble.” And all the sudden I saw that, so I was like, there’s the answer.

So I’m at the holiday in two days later, sitting in the room, hearing the pitch, signing up for stuff I shouldn’t have bought. There’s the pattern.

Andrew: Did you feel like a loser getting married at 22 and still counting on your dad for money? Did you feel like you were marrying a loser?

Russell: Actually, this is a sad story because she actually, my roommate at the time, she actually asked him, “Do you think he’s going to be able to support me in the future?” and he was like, “Yeah, I think so.” I’m like, I didn’t know this until later. I don’t think I felt like a loser, but I definitely was nervous, like oh my gosh. Because my whole identity at that point in my life was I was a wrestler and if that was to disappear…I couldn’t have that disappear. So I was like, I have to figure out something. There’s gotta be some way to do both.

Andrew: To both what? To be a wrestler and make money from some infomercial?

Russell: I didn’t know that was going to be the path, but yeah.

Andrew: But you knew you were going to do something. What did you think that was going to be?

Russell: I wasn’t sure. When I went to the event, they were selling these time share books and you could buy resale rights to them, so I was like, oh. And I remember back, because I remembered the Don Lepre stuff, so I was like, maybe I could buy classified ads and sell these things. And then I was at the event and they were talking about websites, and that was the first thing I’d heard about websites. And they’re talking about Google and the beginnings of this whole internet thing.

So I was like, I can do that. It made all logical sense to me, I just didn’t know how to do it. I just knew that that was going to be the only path because if I had to get a job I wouldn’t be able to wrestle. So I was like, I have to figure out something that’s not going to be a 40 hour thing because I’m spending that time wrestling and going to school. So I had to figure out the best of how to do both.

Andrew: And you obviously found it. My goal today is to go through this process of finding it. But let me skip ahead a little bit. What is this website?

Russell: Oh man, alright. This is actually, the back story behind this is there was a guy named Vince James who wrote a book called the Twelve Month Millionaire. And if anybody’s got that book, it’s fat like a phone book. It’s a huge book. I read and I was like, this book’s amazing. And at the time I was an affiliate marketer, so I had a little bit, maybe a thousand people on my list. So I called up Vince and I was like, “Hey, can I interview you about the book and then I’ll use that as a tool to sell more copies of your book?” and he was like, “Sure.”

So he jumped on the phone with me on a Saturday and he spent 3 hours letting me interview with any questions I had. And I got to the end of it and I still had a ton of questions and he’s like, “Well come back next week and do it again.” So I interviewed him for 6 hours about it. And then we used that to sell some copies of his book and then it just sat there, probably for 2 or 3 years as I was trying different ideas, different businesses and things like that.

But every time I would talk to people I would tell them about this interview. I’m like, “I interviewed this guy who made a hundred million dollars through direct mail.” And everyone wanted to hear the interview, everybody asked me for it. So one day I was like, “Let’s just make that the product.” And we put it up here and this was the very first funnel we had that did over a million dollars, my first Two Comma Club funnel.

Andrew: A million dollars. Do you remember what that felt like?

Russell: It was amazing because it was funny back then. There were people, a few people who were making a lot of money online that I was watching and just idolizing everything they’d do. I was trying to model what they were doing. And I’d had little wins, you know $10,000 here, $15,000 here, but this was by far the first one that just hit. Everyone was so excited.

Andrew: How’d you celebrate?

Russell: I don’t even remember how we celebrated.

Andrew: You married a winner after all. I mean really. Do you remember what you guys did to celebrate? No.

Russell: I don’t even remember. (audience responding, inaudible) It was in my list. That’s a good question.

Andrew: It’ll come up, that list is going to come up in a second too. You ended up creating Clickfunnels. How much revenue are you guys doing now, 2018?

Russell: 2018 we’ll pass over a hundred million dollars, this year.

Andrew:  A hundred million dollars, wowee. How far have you come?

Russell: Like when did we start?

Andrew: Today revenue, as of today, October 2018?

Russell: Oh this year? Oh from the beginning of time until now?

Andrew: No, no I mean I want to know, you’re going to do a hundred million dollars, are you at 10 and you’re hoping to get….

Russell: These guys know better than me, do you know exactly where we’re at right now? 83 million for the year.

Andrew: 83! I love that Dave knows that right, so I want to know how you got to that. I went through your site, pages and pages that look like this. It’s like long form sales letters. I asked my assistant to take pictures, she said, “This is, I can’t do it, it’s too many.” Look at this guys. I asked him to help me figure out what he did. He created this list, this is not the full list, look at this. Every blue line is him finding an old archive of a page he created. It goes on and on like this. How long did it take you to put that together?

Russell: It was probably 5 or 6 hours just to find all the pages.

Andrew: 5 or 6 hours you spent to find these images to help me tell the story. Years and years of doing this, a lot of failure, what amazes me is you didn’t feel jaded and let down after Don Lepre sold you that stuff. You didn’t feel jaded and let down and say, ‘This whole make money thing is a failure.’ After, and we’re going to talk about some of your failures, you just kept going with that same smile, the same eagerness.

Alright, let’s start with the very first business. What’s this one? This is called…

Russell: Sublime Net. How many of you guys remember Sublime Net out there?

Andrew: You guys remember this? Anyone remember it. You do?

Russell: John does. So actually this is the first business for the first website I bought. I was so proud of it, and I spent, I don’t know, I wanted to sell software so I was like, ‘what could I name my company?” So I figured out Exciting Software. So I went to buy Exciteware.com, but it wasn’t for sale. So I bought Exciteware.net and Collette was working at the time and she came home and I was so excited, I’m like, “We got our first website. We’re going to be rich.”

 And I told her the name, I was like, “It’s Exciteware.net.” and she looked at me with this look like, she’s like, “Are you selling underwear, what is the…lingerie?” I’m like, “No, it’s software.” And she’s like, “You can’t, I’m not going to tell my mom that you bought that. You gotta think of another name.” I’m like, “Crap.” So that was the next best name I came up with was Sublime Net. Like the band Sublime. That was it.

Andrew: And I was going to ask you what it was, but it was lots of different things. Every screenshot on there is a whole other business under the same name. What are the businesses? Do you remember?

Russell: There was website hosting, there was affiliates sites, there were, I can’t even remember now, trying to remember. Everything I could think of, resell rights….

Andrew: Lots of different things. How did you do, how well did you do?

Russell: Never anything, very little. I remember the first thing I ever sold was an affiliate product, I made $20 on it through my Paypal account, because I remember that night, I do remember I celebrated. We went out to dinner and I had a Paypal credit card, and we bought dinner with $20 and then the guy refunded the next day. It was so sad. But I was proud that I had made money.

Andrew: How did you support yourself while this was not working?

Russell: I didn’t. My beautiful wife did, she had 2 jobs at the time to support me while I was wrestling and doing these things. She was the one who made it possible to gamble and risk and try crazy things.

Andrew: Can I put you on the spot and ask you to just come over here and just tell me about this period and what you felt at the time? Is that, I know you don’t love being onstage, Russell is good with it, but I know you don’t love it. If you don’t mind, I’m just going to go with one more story and then I’ll come back to you. You cool with it? Good, she seems a little nervous. Actually, wait. Let’s see if we can get her right now. Oh you are, okay.

Russell: Everyone, this is Collette, my beautiful wife.

Andrew: Do you want to use his mic?

Collette: Sure.

Russell: She’s so mad at me right now.

Collette: I wanted to come to this, who knew?

Andrew: You are like his, he’s so proud that he had no venture funding. But you are like his first investor.

Russell: That is true.

Collette: Yes, I’ll be his first investor.

Andrew: Can you hold the mic a little closer. How did you know he wasn’t a loser? No job, he’s wrestling, he’s buying infomercial stuff that doesn’t go anywhere. We know he did well, so we’re not insulting him now, but what did you see in him back then that let you say, ‘I’m going to work extra hard and pay for what he’s not doing?’

Collette: What did I see in him? It was actually his energy, his spirit, because I’m not going to lie, it was kind of not love at first site, we had, we were geeko’s, do you know what I mean? Shopped at the Goodwill, in baggy pants and tshirts, I don’t know. But it was the person who just was always positive and we had the same goals.

Andrew: That’s the thing I noticed too, the positivity. When these businesses fail, we’re showing the few on the screen, it’s easy to look back and go, ‘ha ha, I did this and it was interesting.’ But at the time, what was the bounce back like when things didn’t work out? When the world basically said, you know what as sales people, when they don’t buy your stuff it’s like they don’t buy you. When the world basically said, ‘we don’t like you. We don’t like what you’ve created.’ What was the bounce back like? Hard?

Collette: No, because I come from a hard working family. So I work hard. So you just work hard to make it work.

Andrew: And he’s just an eternal optimistic, and you’re an eternal optimist too, like genuinely, really?

Collette: Yeah, I guess. It works.

Andrew: His dad said, ‘No more money. You had to cut up your credit cards too.’

Collette: Yeah.

Andrew: What was, how did you cut up your credit cards. What was that day like?

Collette: Hard. Yeah hard. Those that don’t know, I’m a little bit older than Russell. So I’ve always had this little bit of independency to go do and buy and do these things, and then all the sudden I’m like, step back sista! You gotta take care of this young man, so we can get to where we’re at. Anyway, but now…

Andrew: Now things are good?

Collette: Now things are amazing.

Andrew: Alright, give her a big round of applause. Thanks for coming up here. These businesses did okay, and then you started something that I never heard about, but look at this. I’m going to zoom in on a section of the Google doc you sent me. This is the call center. The call center got to how many employees? 100?

Russell: We had about 60 full time sales people, 20 full time coaches, and about 20 people doing the marketing and sales, so about 100 people in the whole company, yeah.

Andrew: 100 people doing what kind of call center, what kind of work?

Russell: So what we would do, we would sell free CDs and things like that online, free CDs, free books, free whatever, and then when someone would buy it we’d call them on the phone, and then we’d offer them high end coaching.

Andrew: And this was you getting customers, how?

Russell: Man, back then it was pre-facebook. So a lot of it was Google, it was email lists, it was anything we could figure out to drive traffic, all sorts of weird stuff.

Andrew: And then people come in, get a free CD, sign up for coaching, and then you had to hire people and teach them how to coach? How did you do that.

Russell: Yeah, that was the hard thing. When we first started doing it, I was just doing the coaching. People would come in and we had a little, Brent and some of you guys remember the little offices we had, and we’d bring people in and we were so proud of our little office. And they’d come in and we’d teach them for 2 or 3 days, teach an event for them, and then as it got bigger it was harder and harder for me to do that. So eventually, and a lot of people didn’t want to come to Boise. I love Boise, but it’s really hard to get to.

So people would sign up for coaching, and then they’d never show up to Boise and then a year later they’d want their money back. So we’re like, we have to get something where they’re getting fulfilled whether they showed up to Boise or now. So we started doing phone coaching, and at first it was me, and then it was me and a couple other people, and then we started training more coaches, and that’s kind of how it started.

It was one of those things though, at  first it was just like 5 or 6 of us in a room doing it, and it worked and so then the next logical thing is, we should go from 5 people to 10 to 20 and next thing you know, we wake up with 100 people. I’m like, what are we doing? We’re little kids, it scares me that I’m in charge of all these people’s livelihood, but that’s kind of where it was at and it got kind of scary for me.

Andrew: Sometimes I wonder if I’m hiding behind interviewing because I’m afraid to stand up and say, ‘here’s what I want. Here’s what I think we need to do. Here’s how the world should be.’ So I’m amazed that even back then, after having a few businesses that didn’t really work out, you were comfortable enough to say, ‘Come to my office, I’m going to teach you. I’ve got it figured out.’ When you hadn’t.  How did you get yourself comfortable, and what made you feel comfortable about being able to say, ‘I could teach these people. Come to my office.’ Who call up, who then become my coaches, who then have to teach other people?

Russell: I think for me it was like, when I first started learning the online stuff and entrepreneurship, I think most people feel this, it’s so exciting you want to tell everybody about it. So I’m telling my friends and my family and nobody cares at first. And you’re like, I have to share this gift I’ve figured out, it’s amazing. And nobody cares.

And then the first time somebody cares, and you just dump on them, you want to show it to them. So I hadn’t made tons of money, but I had a lot of these little websites that had done, $30 grand, $50 grand, $100 grand. So for me it was like, if I can show these people, I know what that did for me, it gave me the spark to want to do the next one and the next one. So for me it was like I want to share this because I feel like I figured it out. So that was the thing coming in. We weren’t teaching people how to build a hundred million dollar company, but we’re like, “Hey, you can quit your job. You can make 2 or 3 thousand dollars a month, you can quit your job, and this is how I did it. This is the process.” So that’s what we were showing people. Just the foundation of how we did it, and we showed other people, because they cared and it was exciting to share it with other people.

Andrew: Is Whitney here? There she is. I met her as she was coming in. I wanted to get to know why people were coming to watch this, what they wanted to hear from you. And Whitney was asking about the difficult period, the why. I’m wondering the same thing that she and I were talking about, which is why put yourself through this? You could have gotten a job, you could have done okay, why put yourself through the risk of hiring people, the eventual as we’ll see, closing of the company, what was your motivation? What was the goal? Why did you want to do it?

Russell: I think it shifts throughout time. I think most entrepreneurs when they first get started, it’s because of money. They’re like, ‘I want to make money.’ And then you get that and then really quick, that doesn’t last very long. And then it’s like, then for me it was like, I want to share that with other people. And then when other people get it, there’s something about that aha moment where you’re like, oh my gosh they got it. They got what I was saying. And that for me was like the next level, the next high. It was just like, ah, I love that.

And back then we had some success stories coming through, but now days, it’s like the bigger success stories come through and that’s what drives it on. That is the fascinating part. That’s why we keep, because most software company owners don’t keep creating books, and courses and inter….but when people have the aha, oh my gosh, that’s the best for me.

Andrew: That’s the thing, you get the high of the thing that you wanted when you were growing up, that you wanted someone to show it to you, and if you could then genuinely give it them, not like Don Lepre. But Don Lepre plus actual results, that’s what fires you up.

Russell: That does fire me up. That’s amazing.

Andrew: What happened? Why did that close down?

Russell: Oh man, a lot of things. A lot of bad mistakes, a lot of first time growing a company stuff that I didn’t, again, we just woke up one day it felt like, and we were in this huge office, huge overhead, and about that time, it was 99, 2000 something like that, and there was the merchant account that me and most of the people doing internet marketing at the time, we all used the same merchant account, and they got hit by Visa and Mastercard, so they freaked out and shut down. I think it ended up being 4 or 5 merchant accounts overnight, and we had 9 different merchant accounts with that company, and all of them got shut down instantly.

I remember because everything was fine, we were going through the day and it was like 1:00 in the afternoon on a Friday. They came in like, “None of the, the cards won’t process.” And I’m like, couldn’t figure out why they weren’t processing. We tried to call the company and no one’s answering at the company. Finally we get someone on the phone and they’re like, “Yep, you got shut down along with all the other scammers.” And then she hung up on me.

And I was like, I don’t know what to do right now. I’ve got 100+ people and payroll is not small, and we didn’t have a ton of cash in the bank, it was more of a cash flow business. And Collette actually just left town that night, and she was gone. I remember Avatar just came out, and everyone was going to the movie Avatar that night, and I remember sitting there during the longest movie of all time, and I don’t remember anything other than the sick feeling in my stomach. I was texting everyone I know, trying to see if anyone knew what to do. And everyone was like, “We got shut down too.” “We got shut down.” Everyone got shut down. And we couldn’t figure out anything.

So we came back the next day and I called everyone up, and actually kind of a funny side story, I had just met Tony Robbins a little prior, earlier to this. So that night I was laying in bed, it was like 4 in the morning, and my phone rings and I look at it and it was Tony Robbins’ assistant. And I pick it up and he’s like, “Hey, is there any way you can be in Vegas in three hours? There’s a plane from Boise to Vegas and Tony wants you to speak at this event. It’s starting in three hours. You need to be on stage in three hours.”

I’m sitting here like, my whole world just collapsed, I’m laying in bed sick to my stomach and I’m like, “I don’t think I can. I have to figure this thing out.” And then he tells Tony, and they call me back. “Tony says if your business is…if you can’t make it, don’t show up. You’re fine.” So I didn’t go and then the next morning I woke up and there was a message on my phone that I’d missed. I passed out and I woke up and it was a message from Tony. And he was like, “Hey man, I know that you care about your customers, you care about things. I don’t know the whole situation, but worst case scenario, if you need help let me know, and we can absorb you into Robbins research or whatever and you can be one of my companies, and that way if you want, we can protect you.”

And I heard that and I was like, “Okay, that’s the worst case scenario, I get to work with Tony Robbins? That’s the worst case scenario.” So then I called up everyone on my team and I was like, “Okay guys, we gotta try to figure out how to save this.” And Brent and John and everyone, we came back to my house and I was like, “Okay, what ideas do we got?” And we just sat there for the next 5 or 6 hours trying to figure stuff out.

And then we went to work, and I wish I could say that everything turned around, but it was the next probably 2 or 3 years of us firing 30 people, firing 20 people, closing things down, moving down offices. Just shrinking for a long, long time, until the peak of it, it was about a year after that moment, and we were in an event in Vegas trying to figure out how to save stuff, and I got an email from my dad who was helping with the books at the time, and he said, “Hey, I got really bad news for you. I looked through the books and it turns out your assistant who is supposed to be doing payroll taxes, hadn’t paid payroll in over a year. You owe the IRS $170,000 and if you don’t pay this, you’re probably going to go to jail.”

And I was like, every penny I’d earned to that point was gone. Everything was done and we’d lost everything and I was just like, I don’t know how to fight this battle, but if I don’t fight it I go to jail apparently. And I remember that’s a really crappy feeling. Brent, some of you guys are reliving this with me right now, I know. I remember going back that night, laying in bed and I was just like, “I wish I had a boss that could fire me, because I don’t know what to do, how to do it.” And that was kind of, that was definitely the lowest spot for me.

Andrew: And you stuck with him? Wow, yeah.

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]]> 2196 no The Secret to Selling Thousands of Tickets to Your Live or Virtual Event https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-to-selling-thousands-of-tickets-to-your-live-or-virtual-event Let me take you behind the scenes of what we’re doing to sell out Funnel Hacking Live once again. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to tell you guys a secret about how to fill live events. All right everybody, as you guys know, we are coming down to the final stretch of Funnel Hacking Live. I think we're less than 60 days. Dang, two months. Less than two months away. Whew. It makes me nervous just saying that, from Funnel Hacking Live happening, which is exciting. It's been almost 18 months since the last Funnel Hacking Live. I hope you're excited. I think most of you guys are going to be there, which is exciting. If you aren't going to be there, literally, do you hate money? Do you hate growth? Do you hate relationships with amazing people? Do you hate hearing me talk? Those are the only logical explanations that I can think of. I say that with making sure that you need to be there. If you don't have your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. The show is on. Right now we're in the final stretch. Tickets are almost sold out, and we sell out every year, but this year we're selling out earlier, because the venue's smaller. We only have 3,500 seats versus last year, we had 5,000 people in the event. We pre-sold more tickets the last Funnel Hacking Live than ever before either. Anyway, we're almost sold out. If you don't have a ticket yet, now is the time to go. The other interesting thing is, this is the first and hopefully the only year we're doing a virtual as well, just because a lot of countries, people actually can't get to here, which is frustrating. Other than that, I've always been anti virtual, but we had to, this time around. If you aren't able to come, you're locked out of the country, or whatever, or you're nervous about people, which is understandable as well, there's a virtual option this year, but that one is also almost sold out. If you're getting tickets, now's the time, but anyway, I digress, as we're getting towards the final stretch. We're like, "Okay. Well, I just want to get done selling tickets," because selling tickets is a grind. If anyone who has ever done a live event or a virtual event, it's a lot of work to continually sell tickets. Right? That's the place that we're in now. I was like, "I just want to get it done with. How do we just sell the last batch?" Like, "Let's get it over with." It's funny, because every year we try to reinvent the wheel. Like, "How did we sell these last year? What campaigns work the best?" We went back through, and we looked at ticket sales. We saw there was a week or two, where we sold hundreds of tickets a day, right? We're like, "What did we do during that week?" We went back and found the emails. It was funny, because of course, here's me reinventing the wheel. Hopefully in a year from now, someone can remind me, "Russell, don't forget, this is what we did last year," but I'm sharing this with you guys, because the thing that we'd done in the past that sold more tickets than anything else, outside of at the last year live event, we sell tickets to next year's, that sells the best. Number two, when we do the kickoff Webinar this year, that sold a ton of them this year for us, which we'd never done that in the past, so kickoff Webinar. Then the third biggest thing to sell tickets has always been taking things away, right? Taking away a bonus or increasing the price, things like that, and usually throughout the promotional campaign, we always are doing little things like that. Right? We're increasing the price. We're taking away a bonus. We're doing this. Last year, we had this great idea, which I forgot about until just recently. We had each speaker jump on a Facebook Live with me, just for a quick 10, 15 minutes. I jump on, I talk about who they are, what they're talking about. We do that tease, like "This is what we're going to talk about." It's really exciting to get people pumped about being there, talk about that speaker's experience at FHL. It's just a really fun thing. Then at the end of it, I said, "Hey, for those who were coming to FHL, do you want to give them a bonus to make sure they show up?" Each speaker then gives a bonus. It's crazy. Some speakers are like, "Here's my three-day live event. Here's my $2,000 course. Here's my..." People are giving crazy stuff. Right? Each speaker gives away a bonus. Today, depending when you're listening to this, I've probably done five or six at this point, but I did the first one today. It was with Peng Joon. Peng Joon giveaway is literally a $3,000 event, a three-day live event, the virtual recordings of it, in a member's area and everything, which is crazy for everyone who got their ticket from Funnel Hacking Live. What we do is, we start doing the speaker offer stack. Today Peng Joon gave his bonus. We send emails with a list. Say, "Hey. Go watch Peng Joon's Facebook Live. By the way, he gave everyone this bonus, if you guys get your tickets this weekend." Right? Then next week I think I have three or four Facebook Lives. Each one with two speakers, jumping on, and we're doing this thing. Then each of those speakers, I'm asking them the same thing. Like, "Hey, what bonus do you have?" Then, they'll give us a bonus, and they'll give us a bonus. These bonuses will keep stacking, keep stacking, keep stacking. Then each email goes out like, "Hey, don't forget. Here's Russell's bonus. Here's Peng Joon's. Here's so, and so's. Here's so, and so's, and here's three new bonuses added today." It keeps getting bigger and bigger, and offer stack gets bigger and bigger. What happens during this week or two weeks of these interviews, the sales come in slow, and they get bigger and they get bigger, because the offer keeps getting more and more insane, til eventually, it's like, "I would literally be insane to not get my tickets." Like, "Do I, even if I don't show up to the event?" Like, "I still need to get the thing, because this bonus has gotten so good." It gets bigger, and bigger, and bigger. We do that as we go through all the speakers, and at the very end, now that the offer stack is insane, if you show up to Funnel Hacking Live, you're getting all the speakers, these amazing products. You get to know the speakers ahead of time, plus you get to come to the event, plus all the other bonuses, and all the other things. Then after we built that up, then we take all those bonuses away. We do a three-day cart close, where it's like, "Hey, you can still get tickets, but you'll miss out on this." Like, "Here's the offer stack of all the things," and we pull that away. That pull away, those three days is when we were selling 200 or 300 tickets a day, every single day. It's crazy. We don't have that many tickets to sell this year. I don't know how far we'll get into it, but again, I found the campaign. I was like, "Oh my gosh, of course." We've restructured it, and we're doing it again right now, but for any of you guys who were trying to sell tickets, this is a powerful way to do it. Then what else is cool is that today, Peng Joon, he Instagrammed his audience. Like, "Hey. Check out this Facebook Live I was on." Now he's selling tickets for us as well. Right? Then, yeah. It's just really interesting, because all of this. You're getting the speakers to promote it. You're promoting it. You're increasing the offer, and you're able to pull the offer away. It's just a powerful, unique strategy we're using to sell a ton of tickets. Anyway, I hope that helps. I've tried a lot of things to sell tickets, and like I said, looking at this, is the thing that's worked the best. Make sure you're watching us, if you're not, go make sure you follow me on Facebook. That's where these are all streaming too. Actually, I think it streams to Facebook, LinkedIn, a whole bunch of other places as well, but go and watch that. You'll see the campaign. You'll see what we're doing. You watch, as the offer gets more and more insane. Then when we pull the offer away, that's when the huge ticket sales come through. Anyway, I love this game. I hope you guys can see that. I hope you can feel it. It's so much fun, and I love sharing with you guys behind the scenes, what we're doing. Hopefully you guys can model it for your events. It worked for virtual events, worked for live events, worked for all sorts of things. That said, thanks, you guys for listening. Appreciate you all, and we will talk to you all again soon. Definitely the next podcast episode, but hopefully more importantly, at Funnel Hacking Live. If you don't have your tickets yet, now is the time. You don't want to miss it. The only logical reason to not go is, if you hate money or you hate me. If you hate me, you probably shouldn't be listening to this podcast anyway. If you hate money, you probably aren't listening to this podcast. That means you. Yes, if you're listening right now, you need to go. Pull over the side of the car, pause this thing, open up a new browser window, go to funnelhackinglive.com, and get your tickets. If you're not sure if you want tickets, go watch the video at the top of funnelhackinglive.com, then go get your tickets. It's that good. All right, guys. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and I hope you guys have an amazing day. Talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Secret to Selling Thousands of Tickets to Your Live or Virtual Event full 437 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Let me take you behind the scenes of what we’re doing to sell out Funnel Hacking Live once again. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson.... Let me take you behind the scenes of what we’re doing to sell out Funnel Hacking Live once again. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to tell you guys a secret about how to fill live events. All right everybody, as you guys know, we are coming down to the final stretch of Funnel Hacking Live. I think we're less than 60 days. Dang, two months. Less than two months away. Whew. It makes me nervous just saying that, from Funnel Hacking Live happening, which is exciting. It's been almost 18 months since the last Funnel Hacking Live. I hope you're excited. I think most of you guys are going to be there, which is exciting. If you aren't going to be there, literally, do you hate money? Do you hate growth? Do you hate relationships with amazing people? Do you hate hearing me talk? Those are the only logical explanations that I can think of. I say that with making sure that you need to be there. If you don't have your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. The show is on. Right now we're in the final stretch. Tickets are almost sold out, and we sell out every year, but this year we're selling out earlier, because the venue's smaller. We only have 3,500 seats versus last year, we had 5,000 people in the event. We pre-sold more tickets the last Funnel Hacking Live than ever before either. Anyway, we're almost sold out. If you don't have a ticket yet, now is the time to go. The other interesting thing is, this is the first and hopefully the only year we're doing a virtual as well, just because a lot of countries, people actually can't get to here, which is frustrating. Other than that, I've always been anti virtual, but we had to, this time around. If you aren't able to come, you're locked out of the country, or whatever, or you're nervous about people, which is understandable as well, there's a virtual option this year, but that one is also almost sold out. If you're getting tickets, now's the time, but anyway, I digress, as we're getting towards the final stretch. We're like, "Okay. Well, I just want to get done selling tickets," because selling tickets is a grind. If anyone who has ever done a live event or a virtual event, it's a lot of work to continually sell tickets. Right? That's the place that we're in now. I was like, "I just want to get it done with. How do we just sell the last batch?" Like, "Let's get it over with." It's funny, because every year we try to reinvent the wheel. Like, "How did we sell these last year? What campaigns work the best?" We went back through, and we looked at ticket sales. We saw there was a week or two, where we sold hundreds of tickets a day, right? We're like, "What did we do during that week?" We went back and found the emails. It was funny, because of course, here's me reinventing the wheel. Hopefully in a year from now, someone can remind me, "Russell, don't forget, this is what we did last year," but I'm sharing this with you guys, because the thing that we'd done in the past that sold more tickets than anything else, outside of at the last year live event, we sell tickets to next year's, that sells the best. Number two, when we do the kickoff Webinar this year, that sold a ton of them this year for us, which we'd never done that in the past, so kickoff Webinar. Then the third biggest thing to sell tickets has always been taking things away, right? Taking away a bonus or increasing the price, things like that, and usually throughout the promotional campaign, we always are doing little things like that. Right? We're increasing the price. We're taking away a bonus. We're doing this. Last year, we had this great idea, which I forgot about until just recently. We had each speaker jump on a Facebook Live with me, just for a quick 10, 15 minutes. I jump on, I talk about who they are, what they're talking about. We do that tease, like "This is what we're going to talk about." It's really exciting to get people pumped about being there, talk about that speaker's experience at FHL. It's just a really fun thing. Then at the end of it, I said, "Hey, for those who were coming to FHL, do you want to give them a bonus to make sure they show up?" Each speaker then gives a bonus. It's crazy. Some speakers are like, "Here's my three-day live event. Here's my $2,000 course. Here's my..." People are giving crazy stuff. Right? Each speaker gives away a bonus. Today, depending when you're listening to this, I've probably done five or six at this point, but I did the first one today. It was with Peng Joon. Peng Joon giveaway is literally a $3,000 event, a three-day live event, the virtual recordings of it, in a member's area and everything, which is crazy for everyone who got their ticket from Funnel Hacking Live. What we do is, we start doing the speaker offer stack. Today Peng Joon gave his bonus. We send emails with a list. Say, "Hey. Go watch Peng Joon's Facebook Live. By the way, he gave everyone this bonus, if you guys get your tickets this weekend." Right? Then next week I think I have three or four Facebook Lives. Each one with two speakers, jumping on, and we're doing this thing. Then each of those speakers, I'm asking them the same thing. Like, "Hey, what bonus do you have?" Then, they'll give us a bonus, and they'll give us a bonus. These bonuses will keep stacking, keep stacking, keep stacking. Then each email goes out like, "Hey, don't forget. Here's Russell's bonus. Here's Peng Joon's. Here's so, and so's. Here's so, and so's, and here's three new bonuses added today." It keeps getting bigger and bigger, and offer stack gets bigger and bigger. What happens during this week or two weeks of these interviews, the sales come in slow, and they get bigger and they get bigger, because the offer keeps getting more and more insane, til eventually, it's like, "I would literally be insane to not get my tickets." Like, "Do I, even if I don't show up to the event?" Like, "I still need to get the thing, because this bonus has gotten so good." It gets bigger, and bigger, and bigger. We do that as we go through all the speakers, and at the very end, now that the offer stack is insane, if you show up to Funnel Hacking Live, you're getting all the speakers, these amazing products. You get to know the speakers ahead of time, plus you get to come to the event, plus all the other bonuses, and all the other things. Then after we built that up, then we take all those bonuses away. We do a three-day cart close, where it's like, "Hey, you can still get tickets, but you'll miss out on this." Like, "Here's the offer stack of all the things," and we pull that away. That pull away, those three days is when we were selling 200 or 300 tickets a day, every single day. It's crazy. We don't have that many tickets to sell this year. I don't know how far we'll get into it, but again, I found the campaign. I was like, "Oh my gosh, of course." We've restructured it, and we're doing it again right now, but for any of you guys who were trying to sell tickets, this is a powerful way to do it. Then what else is cool is that today, Peng Joon, he Instagrammed his audience. Like, "Hey. Check out this Facebook Live I was on." Now he's selling tickets for us as well. Right? Then, yeah. It's just really interesting, because all of this. You're getting the speakers to promote it. You're promoting it. You're increasing the offer, and you're able to pull the offer away. It's just a powerful, unique strategy we're using to sell a ton of tickets. Anyway, I hope that helps. I've tried a lot of things to sell tickets, and like I said, looking at this, is the thing that's worked the best. Make sure you're watching us, if you're not, go make sure you follow me on Facebook. That's where these are all streaming too. Actually, I think it streams to Facebook, LinkedIn, a whole bunch of other places as well, but go and watch that. You'll see the campaign. You'll see what we're doing. You watch, as the offer gets more and more insane. Then when we pull the offer away, that's when the huge ticket sales come through. Anyway, I love this game. I hope you guys can see that. I hope you can feel it. It's so much fun, and I love sharing with you guys behind the scenes, what we're doing. Hopefully you guys can model it for your events. It worked for virtual events, worked for live events, worked for all sorts of things. That said, thanks, you guys for listening. Appreciate you all, and we will talk to you all again soon. Definitely the next podcast episode, but hopefully more importantly, at Funnel Hacking Live. If you don't have your tickets yet, now is the time. You don't want to miss it. The only logical reason to not go is, if you hate money or you hate me. If you hate me, you probably shouldn't be listening to this podcast anyway. If you hate money, you probably aren't listening to this podcast. That means you. Yes, if you're listening right now, you need to go. Pull over the side of the car, pause this thing, open up a new browser window, go to funnelhackinglive.com, and get your tickets. If you're not sure if you want tickets, go watch the video at the top of funnelhackinglive.com, then go get your tickets. It's that good. All right, guys. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and I hope you guys have an amazing day. Talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Let me take you behind the scenes of what we’re doing to sell out Funnel Hacking Live once again.

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---Transcript---

What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to tell you guys a secret about how to fill live events. All right everybody, as you guys know, we are coming down to the final stretch of Funnel Hacking Live. I think we're less than 60 days. Dang, two months. Less than two months away. Whew. It makes me nervous just saying that, from Funnel Hacking Live happening, which is exciting. It's been almost 18 months since the last Funnel Hacking Live. I hope you're excited. I think most of you guys are going to be there, which is exciting. If you aren't going to be there, literally, do you hate money? Do you hate growth? Do you hate relationships with amazing people? Do you hate hearing me talk? Those are the only logical explanations that I can think of. I say that with making sure that you need to be there. If you don't have your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. The show is on. Right now we're in the final stretch.

Tickets are almost sold out, and we sell out every year, but this year we're selling out earlier, because the venue's smaller. We only have 3,500 seats versus last year, we had 5,000 people in the event. We pre-sold more tickets the last Funnel Hacking Live than ever before either. Anyway, we're almost sold out. If you don't have a ticket yet, now is the time to go. The other interesting thing is, this is the first and hopefully the only year we're doing a virtual as well, just because a lot of countries, people actually can't get to here, which is frustrating. Other than that, I've always been anti virtual, but we had to, this time around. If you aren't able to come, you're locked out of the country, or whatever, or you're nervous about people, which is understandable as well, there's a virtual option this year, but that one is also almost sold out. If you're getting tickets, now's the time, but anyway, I digress, as we're getting towards the final stretch. We're like, "Okay. Well, I just want to get done selling tickets," because selling tickets is a grind.

If anyone who has ever done a live event or a virtual event, it's a lot of work to continually sell tickets. Right? That's the place that we're in now. I was like, "I just want to get it done with. How do we just sell the last batch?" Like, "Let's get it over with." It's funny, because every year we try to reinvent the wheel. Like, "How did we sell these last year? What campaigns work the best?" We went back through, and we looked at ticket sales. We saw there was a week or two, where we sold hundreds of tickets a day, right? We're like, "What did we do during that week?" We went back and found the emails. It was funny, because of course, here's me reinventing the wheel. Hopefully in a year from now, someone can remind me, "Russell, don't forget, this is what we did last year," but I'm sharing this with you guys, because the thing that we'd done in the past that sold more tickets than anything else, outside of at the last year live event, we sell tickets to next year's, that sells the best.

Number two, when we do the kickoff Webinar this year, that sold a ton of them this year for us, which we'd never done that in the past, so kickoff Webinar. Then the third biggest thing to sell tickets has always been taking things away, right? Taking away a bonus or increasing the price, things like that, and usually throughout the promotional campaign, we always are doing little things like that. Right? We're increasing the price. We're taking away a bonus. We're doing this. Last year, we had this great idea, which I forgot about until just recently. We had each speaker jump on a Facebook Live with me, just for a quick 10, 15 minutes. I jump on, I talk about who they are, what they're talking about. We do that tease, like "This is what we're going to talk about." It's really exciting to get people pumped about being there, talk about that speaker's experience at FHL. It's just a really fun thing. Then at the end of it, I said, "Hey, for those who were coming to FHL, do you want to give them a bonus to make sure they show up?"

Each speaker then gives a bonus. It's crazy. Some speakers are like, "Here's my three-day live event. Here's my $2,000 course. Here's my..." People are giving crazy stuff. Right? Each speaker gives away a bonus. Today, depending when you're listening to this, I've probably done five or six at this point, but I did the first one today. It was with Peng Joon. Peng Joon giveaway is literally a $3,000 event, a three-day live event, the virtual recordings of it, in a member's area and everything, which is crazy for everyone who got their ticket from Funnel Hacking Live. What we do is, we start doing the speaker offer stack. Today Peng Joon gave his bonus. We send emails with a list. Say, "Hey. Go watch Peng Joon's Facebook Live. By the way, he gave everyone this bonus, if you guys get your tickets this weekend." Right? Then next week I think I have three or four Facebook Lives. Each one with two speakers, jumping on, and we're doing this thing. Then each of those speakers, I'm asking them the same thing. Like, "Hey, what bonus do you have?"

Then, they'll give us a bonus, and they'll give us a bonus. These bonuses will keep stacking, keep stacking, keep stacking. Then each email goes out like, "Hey, don't forget. Here's Russell's bonus. Here's Peng Joon's. Here's so, and so's. Here's so, and so's, and here's three new bonuses added today." It keeps getting bigger and bigger, and offer stack gets bigger and bigger. What happens during this week or two weeks of these interviews, the sales come in slow, and they get bigger and they get bigger, because the offer keeps getting more and more insane, til eventually, it's like, "I would literally be insane to not get my tickets." Like, "Do I, even if I don't show up to the event?" Like, "I still need to get the thing, because this bonus has gotten so good." It gets bigger, and bigger, and bigger. We do that as we go through all the speakers, and at the very end, now that the offer stack is insane, if you show up to Funnel Hacking Live, you're getting all the speakers, these amazing products.

You get to know the speakers ahead of time, plus you get to come to the event, plus all the other bonuses, and all the other things. Then after we built that up, then we take all those bonuses away. We do a three-day cart close, where it's like, "Hey, you can still get tickets, but you'll miss out on this." Like, "Here's the offer stack of all the things," and we pull that away. That pull away, those three days is when we were selling 200 or 300 tickets a day, every single day. It's crazy. We don't have that many tickets to sell this year. I don't know how far we'll get into it, but again, I found the campaign. I was like, "Oh my gosh, of course." We've restructured it, and we're doing it again right now, but for any of you guys who were trying to sell tickets, this is a powerful way to do it. Then what else is cool is that today, Peng Joon, he Instagrammed his audience. Like, "Hey. Check out this Facebook Live I was on." Now he's selling tickets for us as well. Right?

Then, yeah. It's just really interesting, because all of this. You're getting the speakers to promote it. You're promoting it. You're increasing the offer, and you're able to pull the offer away. It's just a powerful, unique strategy we're using to sell a ton of tickets. Anyway, I hope that helps. I've tried a lot of things to sell tickets, and like I said, looking at this, is the thing that's worked the best. Make sure you're watching us, if you're not, go make sure you follow me on Facebook. That's where these are all streaming too. Actually, I think it streams to Facebook, LinkedIn, a whole bunch of other places as well, but go and watch that. You'll see the campaign. You'll see what we're doing. You watch, as the offer gets more and more insane. Then when we pull the offer away, that's when the huge ticket sales come through. Anyway, I love this game. I hope you guys can see that. I hope you can feel it. It's so much fun, and I love sharing with you guys behind the scenes, what we're doing. Hopefully you guys can model it for your events.

It worked for virtual events, worked for live events, worked for all sorts of things. That said, thanks, you guys for listening. Appreciate you all, and we will talk to you all again soon. Definitely the next podcast episode, but hopefully more importantly, at Funnel Hacking Live. If you don't have your tickets yet, now is the time. You don't want to miss it. The only logical reason to not go is, if you hate money or you hate me. If you hate me, you probably shouldn't be listening to this podcast anyway. If you hate money, you probably aren't listening to this podcast. That means you. Yes, if you're listening right now, you need to go. Pull over the side of the car, pause this thing, open up a new browser window, go to funnelhackinglive.com, and get your tickets. If you're not sure if you want tickets, go watch the video at the top of funnelhackinglive.com, then go get your tickets. It's that good. All right, guys. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and I hope you guys have an amazing day. Talk soon.

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]]> 596 no WE JUST BOUGHT OUR FIRST COMPANY!!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/we-just-bought-our-first-company A little behind the scenes on the thought process of what we did and why. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing secrets podcast. So today I'm excited because we officially just purchased our first company, which is crazy. And so I will talk to you about that today, what I learned and some things that might help you along your journey as well. All right. So I can't tell you all the details yet because we're still... I don't know, we'll officially announce it to the world, what it is, why and all that kind of stuff later. But we finished signing all the paperwork today, which is crazy because two days ago I had to sign 96 signatures and there was like another like 20, and then there was a couple more. So it's like over a hundred and something signatures I had to sign to officially get this company. And it's exciting. It's our first ever acquisition. Now I bought a lot of things in the past. Right. I bought traffic secrets. We bought mastermind.com, I bought bootstrap, salesfunnels.com. Like we bought really expensive domains, but not like full, active acting businesses. Right? This is the first time where it's a business that we purchased that has huge cashflows and all sorts of crazy stuff. And I wanted to share with you guys just because hopefully it gives you guys just a different way to look at business. It's definitely given me a different way to look at business, which is one of the reasons why we did this. And a lot of you guys know my philosophies and principles on business, right? That's what we talk about all the time, that's what my books are about. This is what my podcast is about and there're different ways to grow a business, one way is that the more traditional where you get an idea, you get a bunch of investors, you raise money and then you go and you create something cool. I hate that way, as you know. So we are the bootstrapped way, which is like create something amazing and then create fronted offers that self liquidate to bring customers in. And that's the bootstrap model we've been doing that, I love. But there're other ways to grow a business as well. And this one I wanted to talk about, because this has been something really, really interesting to us, and I'm not going to share all the stats, the numbers and all that kind of stuff. Partially because I don't know if I'm legally allowed to partially because I don't know the numbers I wasn't involved with all of the day-to-day because I'm no longer the CEO, Dave did all the work. I've just had to sign a million times. So I wanted to give you like some structural concepts to think through that were really, really cool for me. So part of my understanding of this dates back to about a decade ago, I was actually at a mastermind meeting in Mexico and sitting next to this dude and he is different kind of business person than me, right? Like I'm like startup guy, start a business, grow it, scale it, launch it all that kind of stuff where he was like, he told me, he's like, I'm not an entrepreneur, you're an entrepreneur, you start stuff, it's amazing. I'm in mergers and acquisitions. And I think he had bought like 60 or 70 businesses and bought and sold and made a ton of money. And so I was trying to understand them. I'm like, so you never started a business? He's like, no, you guys do that, that's way too hard. He's like, what I do instead, is I find entrepreneurs like you, and he's like, what you have to understand... And I'm probably going to mess up these numbers but this is just illustration purposes. Right? He said if you look at your businesses, right, he's like at a certain level, let's say you're at like $3 million. He's like, you're only going to sell for like a three X multiple. Right. So maybe you'll get 9 million for it. He's like, but at $10 million you'll sell for a five X or 10 X, multiple or whatever it is. Right? I don't know. But like this was what he was explaining to me, okay. He's like, so right now, let’s say your company's making $3 million, like best case you're going to get three X and it's probably closer to three X net. But anyway regardless, he said, so what I do is like I find three or four companies that are each doing $3 million a year. And they're each valued at three X, let's say. He's like, and I buy all four of them or all three of them. Let's say it's four companies at 3 million each bundled together. He said, now because the revenue of this new company is now $12 million. He's like, I can sell that. So I bought it for three X, but I can sell now for six X, for 10 X or whatever it is. It's like, that's all I do. I just find a market. I want to be in, I find three companies that are selling it three X. I buy all three of them. I bundle them together and now they're worth five X or six X or whatever it is. And I flip them and he's like that's my business. He's like, so I have these entrepreneurs like you guys who are geniuses, who will start launch these businesses. And I just come in as the acquisition guy acquire three or four of you bundle you together and then your value goes up because of how much more you're worth. And that was his business. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is crazy. And so it's been interesting over the last 12 months, with click funnels I try to understand, what are our evaluations, how do things work? What are we actually worth? In my head we're worth like 10 billion, but we're probably not in real life. And so it's interesting because... The evaluation game is annoying me because there're tons of ways. Like some companies evaluate off top line, some are just off EBITDA, somewhere are off whatever. But let's just say for example, let's just say click funnels is worth 10 X, our EBITDA. Right? And I don't even know what that is. Let's say it's $50 million. So that means 50 million times 10 would be worth half a billion. Right? And so by us acquiring this company, let's say that company has, I don't know, $20 million EBITDA. Right? I'm messing these numbers in my head, but regardless, let's say we spend, I don't know, 20, 30, 40, $50 million in this company, we buy it. Right? And we plug it in. But then the EBITDA, let's say the EBITDA they had is worth $20 million. Right? We plug that into our thing it increases our EBITDA $20 million times of 10 X valuation is 200 million. So maybe we spend, you know, whatever 40, $50 million buying this thing. But the value instantly adds for our company is a hundred million or 200 million or whatever it is. Right? So instantly just by bundling the two companies together, our value goes up way more than what we actually spend for it. So that's like the first thing that's really, really interesting that I had never considered until we started doing this deal. Right? It's like, oh my gosh, even if like we never make our money back the value of our company dramatically goes up because we're adding all their revenues and their profits to our bottom line, which is like fascinating. And then from there we also get the customer flow and the lead flow and the cash flow and like all the other things that come with building a company or buying a company as well. And it's just, the synergy is really, really interesting. And so anyway, that was again, our first acquisition, and now we're finishing the process. We literally finished it today, which was crazy. It got me excited to start thinking like, okay, what other deals like this are there where we can buy company for X amount dollars. We plug it into our, our beast, our machine and it instantly, whatever X is the value of our company, but then also get lead flow, customer flow, cash flow, all other things as well kind of come in. And it's really interesting and fascinating. So anyway, just a different way to look at business that I wanted to kind of share with you guys because I've already had a lot of people, like, why are you buying a business? Why would you do that? All the things that kind of come with that. And I want to share that because it's just a different perspective I hadn't thought a lot about prior to 10 years ago when I met my merger and acquisition guy. And so I would look at that for you guys' own businesses as well. Like think about is there a business that in your market that you could acquire that you could bundle together. All of a sudden now you get more customers, you get more traffic, but also you're adding to your cashflow, right? Like you buy the company, doubles your cashflow and now it increases the value of your company because now you're in a different bracket of what businesses are selling for and trading for, that number. And then it kind of goes from there. So anyway, it's an interesting game. It's a different game than I'm used to playing. I'm much more comfortable in the whole, like let's build a company and grow it and scale it through paid ads and organically without taking on any VC money. That's the world I understand. And this new one of like mergers and acquisitions is fascinating to me because it's going to get us to our goals way faster. My goal we've talked about a lot. My goal is a billion dollar evaluation. My goal is take over the world, change the world, all these different things. Right? And it's just getting us there faster. Hopefully. I mean, honestly, I'm like 30 minutes into owning this new company and I have no idea. Maybe it'll actually turn out really bad. Maybe things fall apart. I don't know we're going to find out, but I'm hopeful. I'm excited. I think it's going to be a really cool opportunity. And so as we move forward, I will share with you guys in the podcast here, behind the scenes of what we're doing. When I'm able to, I'll talk more about the companies and how they're synergistic and how we're using their lead flow and how we're using their funnels that we're acquiring and how we're using us in the backend and how we're... Just all the other fun things. Honestly, in my head, a lot of it's, not vague. Like I know a vision of where I'm going with things, but we're going to be actually executing on it and I'll be sharing the vision with my team and with everybody over the next little bit. And it's exciting. So anyway, it's a fun time to be alive. So many fun things happening. I hope this episode just gets you thinking a little bit differently. Who could you acquire? And if not acquiring, there's also like licensing, there's three or four deals right now where we're going to existing companies that have really good content or software things. And instead of acquiring them full out, because maybe they don't have the customers or maybe they don't have the lead flow or maybe whatever, there's a million reasons why instead we're just doing licensing deals where we're licensing the technology and plugging it in and then we can start selling it or licensing their intellectual property, licensing things like there's a lot more fun ways to grow businesses than just the traditional stuff. So, anyway, I'm curious if you guys are interested, would you want to know more information about us buying companies, would you like more information about licensing? Like what would be the things that you guys would want me to go deeper on? I'd love to hear it, let me know. The best way to do that is actually take a snapshot of this podcast episode, post it on Instagram or Facebook and tag me in it and then post in the comments. Like what else you'd like to know? Like what would be other things that you'd love to hear more about? So anyway, I hope that helps. I'm going to go bounce and have some lunch and celebrate the acquisition of our new company. I'm so excited. I just wanted to celebrate that with you guys right now and help you understand a little bit reasons why. And like I said, over the next few months, now that you have context I can share more the insights, details, and other cool stuff as well. So that's it, thanks so much, and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0000 WE JUST BOUGHT OUR FIRST COMPANY!!! full 436 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A little behind the scenes on the thought process of what we did and why. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing... A little behind the scenes on the thought process of what we did and why. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing secrets podcast. So today I'm excited because we officially just purchased our first company, which is crazy. And so I will talk to you about that today, what I learned and some things that might help you along your journey as well. All right. So I can't tell you all the details yet because we're still... I don't know, we'll officially announce it to the world, what it is, why and all that kind of stuff later. But we finished signing all the paperwork today, which is crazy because two days ago I had to sign 96 signatures and there was like another like 20, and then there was a couple more. So it's like over a hundred and something signatures I had to sign to officially get this company. And it's exciting. It's our first ever acquisition. Now I bought a lot of things in the past. Right. I bought traffic secrets. We bought mastermind.com, I bought bootstrap, salesfunnels.com. Like we bought really expensive domains, but not like full, active acting businesses. Right? This is the first time where it's a business that we purchased that has huge cashflows and all sorts of crazy stuff. And I wanted to share with you guys just because hopefully it gives you guys just a different way to look at business. It's definitely given me a different way to look at business, which is one of the reasons why we did this. And a lot of you guys know my philosophies and principles on business, right? That's what we talk about all the time, that's what my books are about. This is what my podcast is about and there're different ways to grow a business, one way is that the more traditional where you get an idea, you get a bunch of investors, you raise money and then you go and you create something cool. I hate that way, as you know. So we are the bootstrapped way, which is like create something amazing and then create fronted offers that self liquidate to bring customers in. And that's the bootstrap model we've been doing that, I love. But there're other ways to grow a business as well. And this one I wanted to talk about, because this has been something really, really interesting to us, and I'm not going to share all the stats, the numbers and all that kind of stuff. Partially because I don't know if I'm legally allowed to partially because I don't know the numbers I wasn't involved with all of the day-to-day because I'm no longer the CEO, Dave did all the work. I've just had to sign a million times. So I wanted to give you like some structural concepts to think through that were really, really cool for me. So part of my understanding of this dates back to about a decade ago, I was actually at a mastermind meeting in Mexico and sitting next to this dude and he is different kind of business person than me, right? Like I'm like startup guy, start a business, grow it, scale it, launch it all that kind of stuff where he was like, he told me, he's like, I'm not an entrepreneur, you're an entrepreneur, you start stuff, it's amazing. I'm in mergers and acquisitions. And I think he had bought like 60 or 70 businesses and bought and sold and made a ton of money. And so I was trying to understand them. I'm like, so you never started a business? He's like, no, you guys do that, that's way too hard. He's like, what I do instead, is I find entrepreneurs like you, and he's like, what you have to understand... And I'm probably going to mess up these numbers but this is just illustration purposes. Right? He said if you look at your businesses, right, he's like at a certain level, let's say you're at like $3 million. He's like, you're only going to sell for like a three X multiple. Right. So maybe you'll get 9 million for it. He's like, but at $10 million you'll sell for a five X or 10 X, multiple or whatever it is. Right? I don't know. But like this was what he was explaining to me, okay. He's like, so right now, let’s say your company's making $3 million, like best case you're going to get three X and it's probably closer to three X net. But anyway regardless, he said, so what I do is like I find three or four companies that are each doing $3 million a year. And they're each valued at three X, let's say. He's like, and I buy all four of them or all three of them. Let's say it's four companies at 3 million each bundled together. He said, now because the revenue of this new company is now $12 million. He's like, I can sell that. So I bought it for three X, but I can sell now for six X, for 10 X or whatever it is. It's like, that's all I do. I just find a market. I want to be in, I find three companies that are selling it three X. I buy all three of them. I bundle them together and now they're worth five X or six X or whatever it is. And I flip them and he's like that's my business. He's like, so I have these entrepreneurs like you guys who are geniuses, who will start launch these businesses. And I just come in as the acquisition guy acquire three or four of you bundle you together and then your value goes up because of how much more you're worth. And that was his business. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is crazy. And so it's been interesting over the last 12 months, with click funnels I try to understand, what are our evaluations, how do things work? What are we actually worth? In my head we're worth like 10 billion, but we're probably not in real life. And so it's interesting because... The evaluation game is annoying me because there're tons of ways. Like some companies evaluate off top line, some are just off EBITDA, somewhere are off whatever. But let's just say for example, let's just say click funnels is worth 10 X, our EBITDA. Right? And I don't even know what that is. Let's say it's $50 million. So that means 50 million times 10 would be worth half a billion. Right? And so by us acquiring this company, let's say that company has, I don't know, $20 million EBITDA. Right? I'm messing these numbers in my head, but regardless, let's say we spend, I don't know, 20, 30, 40, $50 million in this company, we buy it. Right? And we plug it in. But then the EBITDA, let's say the EBITDA they had is worth $20 million. Right? We plug that into our thing it increases our EBITDA $20 million times of 10 X valuation is 200 million. So maybe we spend, you know, whatever 40, $50 million buying this thing. But the value instantly adds for our company is a hundred million or 200 million or whatever it is. Right? So instantly just by bundling the two companies together, our value goes up way more than what we actually spend for it. So that's like the first thing that's really, really interesting that I had never considered until we started doing this deal. Right? It's like, oh my gosh, even if like we never make our money back the value of our company dramatically goes up because we're adding all their revenues and their profits to our bottom line, which is like fascinating. And then from there we also get the customer flow and the lead flow and the cash flow and like all the other things that come with building a company or buying a company as well. And it's just, the synergy is really, really interesting. And so anyway, that was again, our first acquisition, and now we're finishing the process. We literally finished it today, which was crazy. It got me excited to start thinking like, okay, what other deals like this are there where we can buy company for X amount dollars. We plug it into our, our beast, our machine and it instantly, whatever X is the value of our company, but then also get lead flow, customer flow, cash flow, all other things as well kind of come in. And it's really interesting and fascinating. So anyway, just a different way to look at business that I wanted to kind of share with you guys because I've already had a lot of people, like, why are you buying a business? Why would you do that? All the things that kind of come with that. And I want to share that because it's just a different perspective I hadn't thought a lot about prior to 10 years ago when I met my merger and acquisition guy. And so I would look at that for you guys' own businesses as well. Like think about is there a business that in your market that you could acquire that you could bundle together. All of a sudden now you get more customers, you get more traffic, but also you're adding to your cashflow, right? Like you buy the company, doubles your cashflow and now it increases the value of your company because now you're in a different bracket of what businesses are selling for and trading for, that number. And then it kind of goes from there. So anyway, it's an interesting game. It's a different game than I'm used to playing. I'm much more comfortable in the whole, like let's build a company and grow it and scale it through paid ads and organically without taking on any VC money. That's the world I understand. And this new one of like mergers and acquisitions is fascinating to me because it's going to get us to our goals way faster. My goal we've talked about a lot. My goal is a billion dollar evaluation. My goal is take over the world, change the world, all these different things. Right? And it's just getting us there faster. Hopefully. I mean, honestly, I'm like 30 minutes into owning this new company and I have no idea. Maybe it'll actually turn out really bad. Maybe things fall apart. I don't know we're going to find out, but I'm hopeful. I'm excited. I think it's going to be a really cool opportunity. And so as we move forward, I will share with you guys in the podcast here, behind the scenes of what we're doing. When I'm able to, I'll talk more about the companies and how they're synergistic and how we're using their lead flow and how we're using their funnels that we're acquiring and how we're using us in the backend and how we're... Just all the other fun things. Honestly, in my head, a lot of it's, not vague. Like I know a vision of where I'm going with things, but we're going to be actually executing on it and I'll be sharing the vision with my team and with everybody over the next little bit. And it's exciting. So anyway, it's a fun time to be alive. So many fun things happening. I hope this episode just gets you thinking a little bit differently. Who could you acquire? And if not acquiring, there's also like licensing, there's three or four deals right now where we're going to existing companies that have really good content or software things. And instead of acquiring them full out, because maybe they don't have the customers or maybe they don't have the lead flow or maybe whatever, there's a million reasons why instead we're just doing licensing deals where we're licensing the technology and plugging it in and then we can start selling it or licensing their intellectual property, licensing things like there's a lot more fun ways to grow businesses than just the traditional stuff. So, anyway, I'm curious if you guys are interested, would you want to know more information about us buying companies, would you like more information about licensing? Like what would be the things that you guys would want me to go deeper on? I'd love to hear it, let me know. The best way to do that is actually take a snapshot of this podcast episode, post it on Instagram or Facebook and tag me in it and then post in the comments. Like what else you'd like to know? Like what would be other things that you'd love to hear more about? So anyway, I hope that helps. I'm going to go bounce and have some lunch and celebrate the acquisition of our new company. I'm so excited. I just wanted to celebrate that with you guys right now and help you understand a little bit reasons why. And like I said, over the next few months, now that you have context I can share more the insights, details, and other cool stuff as well. So that's it, thanks so much, and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A little behind the scenes on the thought process of what we did and why.

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---Transcript---

What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing secrets podcast. So today I'm excited because we officially just purchased our first company, which is crazy. And so I will talk to you about that today, what I learned and some things that might help you along your journey as well.

All right. So I can't tell you all the details yet because we're still... I don't know, we'll officially announce it to the world, what it is, why and all that kind of stuff later. But we finished signing all the paperwork today, which is crazy because two days ago I had to sign 96 signatures and there was like another like 20, and then there was a couple more. So it's like over a hundred and something signatures I had to sign to officially get this company. And it's exciting. It's our first ever acquisition.

Now I bought a lot of things in the past. Right. I bought traffic secrets. We bought mastermind.com, I bought bootstrap, salesfunnels.com. Like we bought really expensive domains, but not like full, active acting businesses. Right? This is the first time where it's a business that we purchased that has huge cashflows and all sorts of crazy stuff.

And I wanted to share with you guys just because hopefully it gives you guys just a different way to look at business. It's definitely given me a different way to look at business, which is one of the reasons why we did this. And a lot of you guys know my philosophies and principles on business, right? That's what we talk about all the time, that's what my books are about. This is what my podcast is about and there're different ways to grow a business, one way is that the more traditional where you get an idea, you get a bunch of investors, you raise money and then you go and you create something cool. I hate that way, as you know.

So we are the bootstrapped way, which is like create something amazing and then create fronted offers that self liquidate to bring customers in. And that's the bootstrap model we've been doing that, I love. But there're other ways to grow a business as well. And this one I wanted to talk about, because this has been something really, really interesting to us, and I'm not going to share all the stats, the numbers and all that kind of stuff. Partially because I don't know if I'm legally allowed to partially because I don't know the numbers I wasn't involved with all of the day-to-day because I'm no longer the CEO, Dave did all the work. I've just had to sign a million times. So I wanted to give you like some structural concepts to think through that were really, really cool for me.

So part of my understanding of this dates back to about a decade ago, I was actually at a mastermind meeting in Mexico and sitting next to this dude and he is different kind of business person than me, right? Like I'm like startup guy, start a business, grow it, scale it, launch it all that kind of stuff where he was like, he told me, he's like, I'm not an entrepreneur, you're an entrepreneur, you start stuff, it's amazing. I'm in mergers and acquisitions. And I think he had bought like 60 or 70 businesses and bought and sold and made a ton of money. And so I was trying to understand them. I'm like, so you never started a business? He's like, no, you guys do that, that's way too hard. He's like, what I do instead, is I find entrepreneurs like you, and he's like, what you have to understand...

And I'm probably going to mess up these numbers but this is just illustration purposes. Right?

He said if you look at your businesses, right, he's like at a certain level, let's say you're at like $3 million. He's like, you're only going to sell for like a three X multiple. Right. So maybe you'll get 9 million for it. He's like, but at $10 million you'll sell for a five X or 10 X, multiple or whatever it is. Right? I don't know. But like this was what he was explaining to me, okay.

He's like, so right now, let’s say your company's making $3 million, like best case you're going to get three X and it's probably closer to three X net. But anyway regardless, he said, so what I do is like I find three or four companies that are each doing $3 million a year. And they're each valued at three X, let's say. He's like, and I buy all four of them or all three of them. Let's say it's four companies at 3 million each bundled together. He said, now because the revenue of this new company is now $12 million. He's like, I can sell that. So I bought it for three X, but I can sell now for six X, for 10 X or whatever it is. It's like, that's all I do.

I just find a market. I want to be in, I find three companies that are selling it three X. I buy all three of them. I bundle them together and now they're worth five X or six X or whatever it is. And I flip them and he's like that's my business. He's like, so I have these entrepreneurs like you guys who are geniuses, who will start launch these businesses. And I just come in as the acquisition guy acquire three or four of you bundle you together and then your value goes up because of how much more you're worth. And that was his business. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is crazy.

And so it's been interesting over the last 12 months, with click funnels I try to understand, what are our evaluations, how do things work? What are we actually worth? In my head we're worth like 10 billion, but we're probably not in real life. And so it's interesting because... The evaluation game is annoying me because there're tons of ways. Like some companies evaluate off top line, some are just off EBITDA, somewhere are off whatever. But let's just say for example, let's just say click funnels is worth 10 X, our EBITDA. Right?

And I don't even know what that is. Let's say it's $50 million. So that means 50 million times 10 would be worth half a billion. Right? And so by us acquiring this company, let's say that company has, I don't know, $20 million EBITDA. Right?

I'm messing these numbers in my head, but regardless, let's say we spend, I don't know, 20, 30, 40, $50 million in this company, we buy it. Right? And we plug it in. But then the EBITDA, let's say the EBITDA they had is worth $20 million. Right? We plug that into our thing it increases our EBITDA $20 million times of 10 X valuation is 200 million. So maybe we spend, you know, whatever 40, $50 million buying this thing. But the value instantly adds for our company is a hundred million or 200 million or whatever it is. Right? So instantly just by bundling the two companies together, our value goes up way more than what we actually spend for it.

So that's like the first thing that's really, really interesting that I had never considered until we started doing this deal. Right? It's like, oh my gosh, even if like we never make our money back the value of our company dramatically goes up because we're adding all their revenues and their profits to our bottom line, which is like fascinating. And then from there we also get the customer flow and the lead flow and the cash flow and like all the other things that come with building a company or buying a company as well. And it's just, the synergy is really, really interesting.

And so anyway, that was again, our first acquisition, and now we're finishing the process. We literally finished it today, which was crazy. It got me excited to start thinking like, okay, what other deals like this are there where we can buy company for X amount dollars. We plug it into our, our beast, our machine and it instantly, whatever X is the value of our company, but then also get lead flow, customer flow, cash flow, all other things as well kind of come in.

And it's really interesting and fascinating. So anyway, just a different way to look at business that I wanted to kind of share with you guys because I've already had a lot of people, like, why are you buying a business? Why would you do that? All the things that kind of come with that. And I want to share that because it's just a different perspective I hadn't thought a lot about prior to 10 years ago when I met my merger and acquisition guy. And so I would look at that for you guys' own businesses as well.

Like think about is there a business that in your market that you could acquire that you could bundle together. All of a sudden now you get more customers, you get more traffic, but also you're adding to your cashflow, right? Like you buy the company, doubles your cashflow and now it increases the value of your company because now you're in a different bracket of what businesses are selling for and trading for, that number. And then it kind of goes from there.

So anyway, it's an interesting game. It's a different game than I'm used to playing. I'm much more comfortable in the whole, like let's build a company and grow it and scale it through paid ads and organically without taking on any VC money. That's the world I understand. And this new one of like mergers and acquisitions is fascinating to me because it's going to get us to our goals way faster.

My goal we've talked about a lot. My goal is a billion dollar evaluation. My goal is take over the world, change the world, all these different things. Right? And it's just getting us there faster. Hopefully. I mean, honestly, I'm like 30 minutes into owning this new company and I have no idea. Maybe it'll actually turn out really bad. Maybe things fall apart. I don't know we're going to find out, but I'm hopeful. I'm excited. I think it's going to be a really cool opportunity. And so as we move forward, I will share with you guys in the podcast here, behind the scenes of what we're doing. When I'm able to, I'll talk more about the companies and how they're synergistic and how we're using their lead flow and how we're using their funnels that we're acquiring and how we're using us in the backend and how we're... Just all the other fun things.

Honestly, in my head, a lot of it's, not vague. Like I know a vision of where I'm going with things, but we're going to be actually executing on it and I'll be sharing the vision with my team and with everybody over the next little bit. And it's exciting. So anyway, it's a fun time to be alive. So many fun things happening. I hope this episode just gets you thinking a little bit differently. Who could you acquire? And if not acquiring, there's also like licensing, there's three or four deals right now where we're going to existing companies that have really good content or software things. And instead of acquiring them full out, because maybe they don't have the customers or maybe they don't have the lead flow or maybe whatever, there's a million reasons why instead we're just doing licensing deals where we're licensing the technology and plugging it in and then we can start selling it or licensing their intellectual property, licensing things like there's a lot more fun ways to grow businesses than just the traditional stuff.

So, anyway, I'm curious if you guys are interested, would you want to know more information about us buying companies, would you like more information about licensing? Like what would be the things that you guys would want me to go deeper on? I'd love to hear it, let me know. The best way to do that is actually take a snapshot of this podcast episode, post it on Instagram or Facebook and tag me in it and then post in the comments. Like what else you'd like to know? Like what would be other things that you'd love to hear more about?

So anyway, I hope that helps. I'm going to go bounce and have some lunch and celebrate the acquisition of our new company. I'm so excited. I just wanted to celebrate that with you guys right now and help you understand a little bit reasons why. And like I said, over the next few months, now that you have context I can share more the insights, details, and other cool stuff as well. So that's it, thanks so much, and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 736 no And THAT'S The Day You Became An Entrepreneur (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/and-thats-the-day-you-became-an-entrepreneur-revisited Enjoy this classic episode from the vault. Russell explains that the day you became an entrepreneur is the day you took personal responsibility for a problem that wasn’t your own. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome to a late night episode of Marketing Secrets. Hey everyone, I’m about to head to bed but I listened to a podcast this week from Ryan Moran, from capitalism.com and he’s got the Freedom Fast Lane show podcast, which is pretty awesome. I love it a lot and he goes deep into the ecommerce side and also business investing and other things that I don’t typically focus on, which has been fun for me to kind of listen to him and world. But he said something in one of his presentations, it was a stage event somewhere,  I don’t even know, a few episodes back. And I don’t remember how he said or what he said but it sparked a thought in my mind. So I’m probably going to slaughter how he said it. He said it probably much better than me, but the concept was so cool. What he basically said is the difference between entrepreneurs and the rest of the world, yes we are different folk if you haven’t noticed. But what he said was interesting, he said, entrepreneurs are the people who see a problem and then take responsibility for it. Isn’t that weird?  I think about the world we live in today. The problem is most people don’t responsibility for anything. Even though they do things that are really bad or wrong or whatever, they won’t take responsibility. They want to blame it on their mom, or their brother, or their sister, or whoever. The world is all about blaming someone else for all the issues that it has. What makes us entrepreneurs weird is we see a problem and instead of blaming somebody else, we look at it and say, “I’m going to take responsibility for that problem, I’m going to figure out an answer.” And when I heard that I was just like, oh my gosh, that is so interesting. Because most people don’t do that. Most people don’t see an issue, a problem and then be like, “I’m going to take responsibility for that.” I was thinking about this with Clickfunnels for example. For a decade we tried to build funnels and it was frustrating. And yeah, we could have blamed everybody else, I’m sure we did. Everyone else did that, it’s the tech designers, the developers, programming is hard, all the things. It wasn’t for us until we said, you know what it does suck and I’m going to take responsibility for it, this is my issue now. And then we figure out a way to solve it. And that’s when everything changed. That’s so fascinating. For you, as an entrepreneur, or someone who wants to be an entrepreneur, I think if we all make conscious decision of what we are doing is consciously saying, “That problem right there, I’m taking on myself, I’m taking responsibility for that.” Instead of doing what most of us do, what’s our human nature. “Oh it’s them. Oh it’s her.” I didn’t fix anything because of this, because of this. We just want to pass the blame, pass the buck so often, but that’s what makes us weird.  That’s what makes us different. It makes entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs. We see those problems, we see those issues and we take a personal responsibility for it. I was thinking about this as I was looking at the Inner circle meetings over the last couple of weeks. I could go through all 100 of my entrepreneurs and share this, but just a couple of them off my head. Pamela Weibold for example, she was a doctor and she started seeing all of her friends who were doctors committing suicide. Person after person after person. And she could have sat there and blamed this, blamed that, but instead she stopped and said, “I’m going to take personal responsibility for this issue and I’m going to save doctors lives.” And she’s gone out there and done that. She’s created a platform. She’s one of the most amazing people I’ve ever seen. She’s literally spent every penny she’s ever made to go and save doctors lives. She’s like, “I can live on 20 grand a year, I’m good. Every penny I make goes back into helping save doctors from committing suicide.” Because she took that as her own personal responsibility. That’s not her responsibility, it’s not her fault. Yet, she looked at it and said, this is my responsibility. That day she became an entrepreneur. You think about another one, Annie Grace, who is so cool. She’s someone who her whole life drank socially. It got to a point where she kept drinking and drinking and she couldn’t break away from it. And she started looking around and it wasn’t just her, it was other people and she went on this mission and started saying….and again, drinking is not her responsibility. People struggling and trying to give up alcohol addiction, that’s not her responsibility, she’s got better things to do with her life. But she looked at it and said, “This problem, I’m going to take responsibility for it.” And she’s gone out and changed thousands of people’s lives. Thousands of people she has helped break away from this addiction that’s robbing them of their freedom, their happiness. She took that personal. She didn’t have to, she didn’t need to but she decided to and that day she became an entrepreneur. I could go through person after person after person after person, the day that they looked at this thing, this problem that wasn’t even supposed to be their own, but they saw it. And whatever it was, I don’t know if tuition, if it’s God, if it’s a spark, if it’s your brain. Whatever it is, you see it and there’s that spark saying, “That one’s mine. That is the problem I’m going to fix and I’m going to take personal responsibility. It may not be my fault, but I am the one who’s going to fix this and change it.” And that’s what makes you different as an entrepreneur, and it’s fascinating and exciting. And if you wondered, how do I become an entrepreneur, how do I do that? It’s time to start looking at that and saying, “Instead of pushing responsibility on different places, different things, different people, different whatever, look at a problem and take on that responsibility yourself. And that’s the game plan, that’s how it works. Anyway, I heard that three or four days ago and it’s been ringing through my head over and over. I keep thinking about person after person after person in my inner circle, and entrepreneurs I work with, and inner circle members, and Two Comma Club members, and I look at the people around me who are serving and doing stuff. Every single time I could link back to, that is the problem they took personal responsibility for. They didn’t have to, they didn’t need to, but they did. And that’s the magic. So I hope that helps you guys. I hope that rings through your head and makes you start looking and being more aware of the stuff around you that’s happening and trying to figure out what it is that you’re going to take personal responsibility for. Because when you do that, that’s the day you’ll become an entrepreneur, and that’s the day you will literally change the world. Thanks you guys, so much for everything. Thanks for your support, thanks for your effort. Thanks for your contribution to the world. We love you guys, we appreciate you guys, we enjoy serving you guys. And we’re so grateful that you listen to this podcast. If you like this podcast and learn anything from it, please go to iTunes and subscribe and share it with another entrepreneur who could help. Thanks so much you guys. Talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 28 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0000 And THAT'S The Day You Became An Entrepreneur (Revisited!) full 435 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy this classic episode from the vault. Russell explains that the day you became an entrepreneur is the day you took personal responsibility for a problem that wasn’t your own. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my... Enjoy this classic episode from the vault. Russell explains that the day you became an entrepreneur is the day you took personal responsibility for a problem that wasn’t your own. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome to a late night episode of Marketing Secrets. Hey everyone, I’m about to head to bed but I listened to a podcast this week from Ryan Moran, from capitalism.com and he’s got the Freedom Fast Lane show podcast, which is pretty awesome. I love it a lot and he goes deep into the ecommerce side and also business investing and other things that I don’t typically focus on, which has been fun for me to kind of listen to him and world. But he said something in one of his presentations, it was a stage event somewhere,  I don’t even know, a few episodes back. And I don’t remember how he said or what he said but it sparked a thought in my mind. So I’m probably going to slaughter how he said it. He said it probably much better than me, but the concept was so cool. What he basically said is the difference between entrepreneurs and the rest of the world, yes we are different folk if you haven’t noticed. But what he said was interesting, he said, entrepreneurs are the people who see a problem and then take responsibility for it. Isn’t that weird?  I think about the world we live in today. The problem is most people don’t responsibility for anything. Even though they do things that are really bad or wrong or whatever, they won’t take responsibility. They want to blame it on their mom, or their brother, or their sister, or whoever. The world is all about blaming someone else for all the issues that it has. What makes us entrepreneurs weird is we see a problem and instead of blaming somebody else, we look at it and say, “I’m going to take responsibility for that problem, I’m going to figure out an answer.” And when I heard that I was just like, oh my gosh, that is so interesting. Because most people don’t do that. Most people don’t see an issue, a problem and then be like, “I’m going to take responsibility for that.” I was thinking about this with Clickfunnels for example. For a decade we tried to build funnels and it was frustrating. And yeah, we could have blamed everybody else, I’m sure we did. Everyone else did that, it’s the tech designers, the developers, programming is hard, all the things. It wasn’t for us until we said, you know what it does suck and I’m going to take responsibility for it, this is my issue now. And then we figure out a way to solve it. And that’s when everything changed. That’s so fascinating. For you, as an entrepreneur, or someone who wants to be an entrepreneur, I think if we all make conscious decision of what we are doing is consciously saying, “That problem right there, I’m taking on myself, I’m taking responsibility for that.” Instead of doing what most of us do, what’s our human nature. “Oh it’s them. Oh it’s her.” I didn’t fix anything because of this, because of this. We just want to pass the blame, pass the buck so often, but that’s what makes us weird.  That’s what makes us different. It makes entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs. We see those problems, we see those issues and we take a personal responsibility for it. I was thinking about this as I was looking at the Inner circle meetings over the last couple of weeks. I could go through all 100 of my entrepreneurs and share this, but just a couple of them off my head. Pamela Weibold for example, she was a doctor and she started seeing all of her friends who were doctors committing suicide. Person after person after person. And she could have sat there and blamed this, blamed that, but instead she stopped and said, “I’m going to take personal responsibility for this issue and I’m going to save doctors lives.” And she’s gone out there and done that. She’s created a platform. She’s one of the most amazing people I’ve ever seen. She’s literally spent every penny she’s ever made to go and save doctors lives. She’s like, “I can live on 20 grand a year, I’m good. Every penny I make goes back into helping save doctors from committing suicide.” Because she took that as her own personal responsibility. That’s not her responsibility, it’s not her fault. Yet, she looked at it and said, this is my responsibility. That day she became an entrepreneur. You think about another one, Annie Grace, who is so cool. She’s someone who her whole life drank socially. It got to a point where she kept drinking and drinking and she couldn’t break away from it. And she started looking around and it wasn’t just her, it was other people and she went on this mission and started saying….and again, drinking is not her responsibility. People struggling and trying to give up alcohol addiction, that’s not her responsibility, she’s got better things to do with her life. But she looked at it and said, “This problem, I’m going to take responsibility for it.” And she’s gone out and changed thousands of people’s lives. Thousands of people she has helped break away from this addiction that’s robbing them of their freedom, their happiness. She took that personal. She didn’t have to, she didn’t need to but she decided to and that day she became an entrepreneur. I could go through person after person after person after person, the day that they looked at this thing, this problem that wasn’t even supposed to be their own, but they saw it. And whatever it was, I don’t know if tuition, if it’s God, if it’s a spark, if it’s your brain. Whatever it is, you see it and there’s that spark saying, “That one’s mine. That is the problem I’m going to fix and I’m going to take personal responsibility. It may not be my fault, but I am the one who’s going to fix this and change it.” And that’s what makes you different as an entrepreneur, and it’s fascinating and exciting. And if you wondered, how do I become an entrepreneur, how do I do that? It’s time to start looking at that and saying, “Instead of pushing responsibility on different places, different things, different people, different whatever, look at a problem and take on that responsibility yourself. And that’s the game plan, that’s how it works. Anyway, I heard that three or four days ago and it’s been ringing through my head over and over. I keep thinking about person after person after person in my inner circle, and entrepreneurs I work with, and inner circle members, and Two Comma Club members, and I look at the people around me who are serving and doing stuff. Every single time I could link back to, that is the problem they took personal responsibility for. They didn’t have to, they didn’t need to, but they did. And that’s the magic. So I hope that helps you guys. I hope that rings through your head and makes you start looking and being more aware of the stuff around you that’s happening and trying to figure out what it is that you’re going to take personal responsibility for. Because when you do that, that’s the day you’ll become an entrepreneur, and that’s the day you will literally change the world. Thanks you guys, so much for everything. Thanks for your support, thanks for your effort. Thanks for your contribution to the world. We love you guys, we appreciate you guys, we enjoy serving you guys. And we’re so grateful that you listen to this podcast. If you like this podcast and learn anything from it, please go to iTunes and subscribe and share it with another entrepreneur who could help. Thanks so much you guys. Talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Enjoy this classic episode from the vault. Russell explains that the day you became an entrepreneur is the day you took personal responsibility for a problem that wasn’t your own.

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---Transcript---

What’s up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome to a late night episode of Marketing Secrets.

Hey everyone, I’m about to head to bed but I listened to a podcast this week from Ryan Moran, from capitalism.com and he’s got the Freedom Fast Lane show podcast, which is pretty awesome. I love it a lot and he goes deep into the ecommerce side and also business investing and other things that I don’t typically focus on, which has been fun for me to kind of listen to him and world. But he said something in one of his presentations, it was a stage event somewhere,  I don’t even know, a few episodes back. And I don’t remember how he said or what he said but it sparked a thought in my mind.

So I’m probably going to slaughter how he said it. He said it probably much better than me, but the concept was so cool. What he basically said is the difference between entrepreneurs and the rest of the world, yes we are different folk if you haven’t noticed. But what he said was interesting, he said, entrepreneurs are the people who see a problem and then take responsibility for it. Isn’t that weird?

 I think about the world we live in today. The problem is most people don’t responsibility for anything. Even though they do things that are really bad or wrong or whatever, they won’t take responsibility. They want to blame it on their mom, or their brother, or their sister, or whoever. The world is all about blaming someone else for all the issues that it has. What makes us entrepreneurs weird is we see a problem and instead of blaming somebody else, we look at it and say, “I’m going to take responsibility for that problem, I’m going to figure out an answer.”

And when I heard that I was just like, oh my gosh, that is so interesting. Because most people don’t do that. Most people don’t see an issue, a problem and then be like, “I’m going to take responsibility for that.” I was thinking about this with Clickfunnels for example. For a decade we tried to build funnels and it was frustrating. And yeah, we could have blamed everybody else, I’m sure we did. Everyone else did that, it’s the tech designers, the developers, programming is hard, all the things. It wasn’t for us until we said, you know what it does suck and I’m going to take responsibility for it, this is my issue now. And then we figure out a way to solve it. And that’s when everything changed.

That’s so fascinating. For you, as an entrepreneur, or someone who wants to be an entrepreneur, I think if we all make conscious decision of what we are doing is consciously saying, “That problem right there, I’m taking on myself, I’m taking responsibility for that.” Instead of doing what most of us do, what’s our human nature. “Oh it’s them. Oh it’s her.” I didn’t fix anything because of this, because of this. We just want to pass the blame, pass the buck so often, but that’s what makes us weird.  That’s what makes us different. It makes entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs.

We see those problems, we see those issues and we take a personal responsibility for it. I was thinking about this as I was looking at the Inner circle meetings over the last couple of weeks. I could go through all 100 of my entrepreneurs and share this, but just a couple of them off my head.

Pamela Weibold for example, she was a doctor and she started seeing all of her friends who were doctors committing suicide. Person after person after person. And she could have sat there and blamed this, blamed that, but instead she stopped and said, “I’m going to take personal responsibility for this issue and I’m going to save doctors lives.” And she’s gone out there and done that. She’s created a platform. She’s one of the most amazing people I’ve ever seen. She’s literally spent every penny she’s ever made to go and save doctors lives. She’s like, “I can live on 20 grand a year, I’m good. Every penny I make goes back into helping save doctors from committing suicide.”

Because she took that as her own personal responsibility. That’s not her responsibility, it’s not her fault. Yet, she looked at it and said, this is my responsibility. That day she became an entrepreneur.

You think about another one, Annie Grace, who is so cool. She’s someone who her whole life drank socially. It got to a point where she kept drinking and drinking and she couldn’t break away from it. And she started looking around and it wasn’t just her, it was other people and she went on this mission and started saying….and again, drinking is not her responsibility. People struggling and trying to give up alcohol addiction, that’s not her responsibility, she’s got better things to do with her life.

But she looked at it and said, “This problem, I’m going to take responsibility for it.” And she’s gone out and changed thousands of people’s lives. Thousands of people she has helped break away from this addiction that’s robbing them of their freedom, their happiness. She took that personal. She didn’t have to, she didn’t need to but she decided to and that day she became an entrepreneur.

I could go through person after person after person after person, the day that they looked at this thing, this problem that wasn’t even supposed to be their own, but they saw it. And whatever it was, I don’t know if tuition, if it’s God, if it’s a spark, if it’s your brain. Whatever it is, you see it and there’s that spark saying, “That one’s mine. That is the problem I’m going to fix and I’m going to take personal responsibility. It may not be my fault, but I am the one who’s going to fix this and change it.”

And that’s what makes you different as an entrepreneur, and it’s fascinating and exciting. And if you wondered, how do I become an entrepreneur, how do I do that? It’s time to start looking at that and saying, “Instead of pushing responsibility on different places, different things, different people, different whatever, look at a problem and take on that responsibility yourself. And that’s the game plan, that’s how it works.

Anyway, I heard that three or four days ago and it’s been ringing through my head over and over. I keep thinking about person after person after person in my inner circle, and entrepreneurs I work with, and inner circle members, and Two Comma Club members, and I look at the people around me who are serving and doing stuff. Every single time I could link back to, that is the problem they took personal responsibility for. They didn’t have to, they didn’t need to, but they did. And that’s the magic.

So I hope that helps you guys. I hope that rings through your head and makes you start looking and being more aware of the stuff around you that’s happening and trying to figure out what it is that you’re going to take personal responsibility for. Because when you do that, that’s the day you’ll become an entrepreneur, and that’s the day you will literally change the world.

Thanks you guys, so much for everything. Thanks for your support, thanks for your effort. Thanks for your contribution to the world. We love you guys, we appreciate you guys, we enjoy serving you guys. And we’re so grateful that you listen to this podcast. If you like this podcast and learn anything from it, please go to iTunes and subscribe and share it with another entrepreneur who could help. Thanks so much you guys. Talk to you soon.

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]]> 545 no Do You Ever Find Yourself Uninspired and Not Wanting To Publish? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/do-you-ever-find-yourself-uninspired-and-not-wanting-to-publish On this episode we answer a question from one of our listeners. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Tonight, I'm going to have a special episode, actually. Someone on Instagram, who I've become friends with recently, been talking back and forth, asked me a really good question about feeling uninspired, and low confidence publishing and wondered what I do to keep myself confident and motivated. And I think the answer may surprise you. So, I wanted to do this as an episode instead of just responding back to him directly, and hopefully it'll help a lot of you guys out as well. All right everyone, so like I said, one of my new friends Alex, he had posted on Instagram or he actually sent me a DM, a question, and I thought it was really good question. I think it's something that I know I personally deal with way more often than I'd like to admit, and I'm sure a lot of you guys do as well. And so I thought I would, instead of just responding to him personally, respond through a podcast and hopefully it'll give you guys some value as well. So this is what he wrote. He said, "Hey man, question for you. If you ever find yourself feeling uninspired, low in confidence to publish every day or put yourself out there, what are some of your go-to activities to create lasting peak state again, where you feel full of fire, belief and vision. I'm in a spot that haven't been in a long time. I'm committed to breaking out of it, and I have faith that I will. I have a feeling that finding the right catalyst to help spark the fire again is the key." Anyway, so I thought it was really good question. And again, I think my answer may be different than him, or even probably most people think. And so to put it in context, I'm going to give you a quick glimpse at my life recently. It's summertime here at the time that I'm recording this, and I've got five amazing kids, three teenagers and two younger kids. And my teenagers have a party every night, something planned with friends and everything. And there's no school. And they're like, "Well there's no school tomorrow." I'm like, "Yeah, but I still have to get up tomorrow at six. I still have things to do. I still have all this stuff." My poor wife and I, usually during school time we put them to bed at nine and we've got two hours by ourselves before we pass out. Where now they're getting home from friend's houses around 11, and then we're trying to put them to bed. And then it's midnight, and then one, and then one thirty and then we're so tired. And right now is a really busy season, we are like 60 days away from Funnel Hacking Live. P.S. if you don’t have your tickets yet go to funnelhackinglive.com. And I find myself now every morning, literally waking up and I am feeling, I think exactly what Alex is feeling. I wake up and I'm tired, I'm uninspired, I have low confidence. I don't want to publish. I don't want to talk. I don't want to get a bed. I don't want to work out. It's tough. Today, I set my alarm for six and I snoozed it for an hour and a half. I kept pushing it over and over and over again. And I actually, this morning as I was going to the office. I was like, "Why am I struggling so much?" And I start thinking back, and I think in my mind, I think in most of our minds, we assume that we're always like, there are seasons and times when we're on fire and full belief and vision, all these kind of things. But when I started like really looking back, I started thinking about different parts of my life, especially some of my favorite parts of my life. And if I really remembered, I try to... I think most of the times our memories remember the good things and we fade out the bad, right? It's like, when you have a baby. Five minutes after my wife gave birth, if I was like, "Let's have another baby," she would probably strangle me. But then, a day goes by, then a week and then a month. And within three or four months, you forget the pain. All you remember is this cute little baby and you're like, "Oh, we should have kids again. It was so much fun." And then all of a sudden you're pregnant. You're like, "What was I thinking? Why didn't somebody tell me about this?" I think it's the same thing in life. Like if I honestly think back, I think back about wrestling. That was my first passion, my first love. I remember winning the state title. I remember these big things that are amazing, but if I'm really honest, I try to remember the practices. I remember cutting weight. I remember not eating for four or five days in a row, every single week for my entire high school career. And cutting weight, and not having energy, and being tired in class and like cutting weight. Those who've cut weight know what I'm talking about, but I was doing that. And I don't think that there was a time when I was really... It didn't feel good, I didn't enjoy it. It was hard. It was miserable. But then the thing at the end happened, and it was amazing. And because I had this desire, and this belief and this hope in the thing at the end, that's why I kept doing it. Cause I was like, "Ah, someday I want to win a state title. Someday I want to be an All-American, someday." And I had these things, so I put myself through these things. And then afterwards I hit the goals. You don't hit the goals and you remember the positives, and you remember these things and you kind of fade out the negative. But the reality is that a lot of times going through the stuff, like the day by, day by day, you don't come into it super inspired, and tons of energy, and high confidence and all those things that we think we are, or we're looking for, we're thinking it's going to happen. At least not that I remember, as I'm trying to be completely honest with myself, I'm remembering the practices and leading up to them, and most days I didn't want to go to practice. Like I did because when I got into it, I enjoyed it. But going to practice, I would dread. And then fast forward, most of you guys I think know, I had a chance to serve a mission for my church for two years. And so for two years I was on this mission, and I'm knocking doors, and I'm teaching about Jesus, and doing these things and had a great experience. Looking back now, it's one of the greatest highlights of my life. If I remember, every morning waking up, and we'd wake up super early, and study scriptures and do these things, and we were tired. And those who haven't been on a mission, or have never seen like the Mormon missionaries before, like you don't get to go on dates, you don't get to call home, you don't get to... You're with a companion and you don't go to movies, you don't have a TV, so it's tough. I remember every morning waking up, and knowing I had to go knock on doors, knowing I had to go do these things and dreading it. Like, ah it was hard consistently. And then we're going out and knocking door, and usually within doing it for a little while, it'd become fun. And we'd talk to people, like I enjoyed it. And as I'm enjoying it, I'm like, "Why was I so complaining? Like why was I so tired this morning? Why was I so miserable? I actually enjoy this stuff," but I still did. And if I look back on my mission now, it was two years I was out there. Like I would wage, I would bet that most mornings I woke up dreading having to do the work I actually had to do. And now I started thinking about this, about my entrepreneurial career. And again, I think back about all the highs and the big wins and all these kinds of things. But if I'm completely honest with myself, throughout the day by day, and the week by week, it was not sunshine and roses. I didn't wake up inspired, and excited and have tons of confidence and wanting to publish. Like it came... Usually me waking up and dreading it, and then going and doing it. And then as I started doing it, it was like, "Oh, I actually do enjoy this. This is kind of fun." It was weird to me because two days ago I was working on this webinar, and all day at the office I was having fun, I was doing it and I got home. And then first I was excited, "Tomorrow's going to be fun to work on it." But then again, my evening happened and it was crazy, and kids get to bed at midnight and I'm asleep at 1:00, and my alarm is going off at six in the morning and I'm just dreading going the office. Like, "I don't want to open the slides. I'm too tired. I don't want to work on it." And like, I'm miserable. Right? Uninspired, low confidence, like all these things. But I woke up, I did the thing, got out there, got to the office and started working on it. And then as I got back into it again, it became fun and I enjoyed it. And then eventually I'm going to do this webinar and I'm going to be stressed out. I'll probably pull all-nighters ahead of time, and then do the webinar and it's going to make a bunch of money. Then I'll be able to celebrate and all I'm going to remember is the celebration. Right? The baby came out, we made a bunch of money. Someone got baptized. Whatever the result was that I was working towards. And I'll Remember that, and it's all I remember is like how great it was. I mean, we did this event, the Funnel Hackathon event. It was interesting because, I was teaching a webinar model. I was like, we launched ClickFunnels... I always tell them they should do a webinar a week, every single week for a year. And I was like, "I tell people that, but that's not what I did." I was like, "I was doing at least a webinar a day, some days two or three webinars a day." And if you've ever done a webinar, like a two hour webinar, it's like working a nine hour or eight hour workday. Right? So you're doing three back-to-back-to-back, six hours of straight webinars. Like in my head, I remember this amazing thing in me, closing sales and like how amazing it was. But if I'm honest with myself, It was horrible. I couldn't talk, I was tired. I had no energy. I didn't want to be there. I didn't want to do the second let alone the third webinar that day, knowing that tomorrow I'd wake up and do it again. And it's just interesting because I think our brain blocks out so much those things. So I'm not saying that we can't be inspired, have high confidence in those kinds of things. But my bet is in most situations, most mornings you're going to wake up and you're going to be uninspired, you're going to have low confidence. You're not going to want to publish. You're going to want to go out there. You're not going to want to do a webinar, you're not going to want to publish your podcast, you're not going to want to knock doors. You're not going to want to go read a book, you're not going to want to write a book. You're not going to want to... Whatever the thing is. Because that's the reality of life, at least as far as I've experienced it. I try to think back like, when were the mornings I woke up super excited? And there have been some, I can tell you there have been, but they are few and far between. The thing that gets me moving in the morning is not the feeling of inspiration or confidence or anything in the morning. It is the vision of the thing at the end. It was me knowing I wanted to win a state title. Not just knowing I want to be a state champ, but knowing like in my heart and my soul and my gut, that's all I wanted. That's all I wanted in life was that, I wanted to get my hand raised. And it's because of that I was willing to go through anything. My coach has said, "You got to lose 30 pounds this week." Which happened every single week. I was like, "Okay." They're like, "Hey, you've got to go run four miles right now. You got to do this." Like I just said yes to everything, because that was the goal. That was the... Like, whatever it took to get there, I was okay with it. So the vision, the goal is the thing, but it doesn't mean you're going to feel the things I think we want to feel. I want to feel like, wake up in the morning, I want to go run. I want to go do these things. I want to go... But I don't think I ever feel those things. And maybe I'm the one that's messed up, I don't know. But if I'm honest with myself, I don't remember really feeling those things. I don't remember any morning when my alarm went off and I woke up feeling like I wanted to go run, feeling like I want to go lift weights again. Maybe every once in a while, but it was rare. The thing that was a constant was like this North Star, it was the vision. And again in high school, it was winning a state title and it was being an All-American, that's all I could dream about. Like I'd sit there without any food or water in my stomach for weeks... For not weeks, but days at a time, miserable, cutting 25, 30 pounds a week, every single week, week in and week out, over and over and over again. Being thirsty beyond any kind of anything you can imagine. For those who have never cut weight before, you think that that being hungry is hard. Like people who skip a meal and they're like, "I'm so hungry." Like hunger pains are easy. Thirst pains are bad. Like you skip water for a day, your hunger pains disappear and you can not eat for a week. Fine. But that those thirst pains like keep you up at night. But again, like what was the thing? It was the vision and it was doing it when you're not inspired, doing it when you don't feel like it, because you're normally not going to feel like it. Like right now, we're 60 days away from Funnel Hacking Live, I have so much work to do. We are rebuilding three different coaching programs and I'm tired. I've got six core presentations, nine total presentations that I haven't started on. I'm rewriting a core webinar that I have to do. We've got film dates. We've got events. We've got... If you guys saw my schedule for the next 60 days, you'd probably laugh or cry or a little bit of both. And I tell you what, I don't want to do most of it. But guess what I do want to do? I want Funnel Hacking Live to happen. I want... When it's over, the night Funnel Hacking Live ends, when I go to bed at night, there's this feeling that I don't know. It's not as good as getting my hand raised and wrestling. I'm not going to lie, but it's this feeling. And I felt it before, I feel like when the whole thing's done, and you see people and you see their change, and you see them leave and you get to go home and be in your room for a minute and just be like, "We did it," that feeling, that vision and seeing like the ripple effect that will come from that room, from the 3,500 people who will be in the room, that ripple effect that will come out from there around the world. That vision of that. Like for me, it's a tangible visually. It's like, I can see... For me, it's like I see the audience, I see this huge rock going boom, and hitting it. And the ripple effect goes to 3,500 people in the room. Then from there, it goes out to millions and millions of people around the world. That vision of that is what gets me moving and going. And for some reason, I wish... I keep thinking or wishing that vision would make it so I woke up every morning inspired, excited, with energy, but it doesn't. Because the reality is, if that's all it was, was the vision. I think we'd be able to... If the vision affected us, so we felt so good that was easy, then it would be easier. But for me at least it doesn't. So anyway, if any of you guys got a secret, let me know. But for me, it's just waking up thinking about, this is the thing. This is what I'm working towards, I want it, I'm going for it. And then start the process. And like I said, after I start the process, usually it feels good, but it's that initial momentum that's not fun, right? Like the initial waking up and going to the gym is not fun, but then when you start lifting. It's like, "Oh, I actually enjoy this." Getting up, getting dressed, getting to the office, not fun. Start working your slides, you're like, "Oh I actually enjoy this." This podcast episode for example, my brother who does my podcast is going out of town. He's been asking me for a week and a half for three episodes. And right now it is 11:27 at night, and I've been dreading this podcast all day long. I've been thinking about it and like talking myself out of it, like dreading it. Literally, I don't want to do this podcast. I don't want to do it. I'm tired, I just want to go to bed, I got so much stuff. Like I finally got my kids to bed. Now, last thing in the world I want to do is publish my podcast, the last thing I want to do. But now I'm 14 minutes and 25 seconds into it, and I'm actually really enjoying this. I could go for the two hours. Like I'm feeling the energy now, right? But initially you don't have it. And so I think that's the biggest thing is just, understanding that it's the initial momentum. That's the hardest part. In the morning you wake up and you're out of momentum, like getting back into momentum. That's a hard thing. And so most people, most humans on this planet never get back into momentum. They're just like, ugh. They just stop, right? So the thing that's going to get you from this stagnated stop spot is like, either the memory of the vision or the dream of the vision. When I was wrestling, it was the dream of being a state champ. Right now it's the memory of last years Funnel Hacking Live and the experience that I felt afterwards. Like, that's the thing that gets me out of bed into momentum, and with the momentum I start feeling more inspired, I start feeling more confident. I start listening, they start happening, but they don't happen right out of the gate. Most mornings, you're going to wake up not wanting to do with the thing you got to do. You're not going to feel good. You're not going to feel inspired, have confidence, any of those kinds of things. So it's like, you got to have this vision that pulls you into momentum, and then momentum picks up and that's when you start feeling good and start having fun. And right now, I want to go film 12 more podcast episodes, which is good because my brother told me I need to give him three by tomorrow. So, this is the first one, I've got two more tonight and I'm really excited about one of them, so I'll probably do that one next because now I'm in momentum. I'm feeling good. And anyway, so I hope that helps. I think the biggest thing that I want to share is just that if you're struggling every morning, for any of you guys, like that's okay. So do I, every morning, Very, very, very rare do I wake up and like, "Yes, let's go. Like, this is the thing." It's unfortunately not there and I don't think it's there for most people. And if it is there for you, that's amazing. Like run. That means you're waking up already in momentum, start running. Don't stop. But for most of us it's, man, making that vision. It's like what we talked about for wrestling, so clear, so vivid, so real, that you would go through anything to get it. First time I saw someone win a state title and I was like, "That's what I want more than air," literally, like more than food, more than water, more than friends, more than anything. And it became that real, that tangible that vivid where I could feel it, taste it, touch it, like smell, I could envision it. Like that's when I was willing to do anything and I did do anything, like literally. Insane things we did to get that goal. And same thing rings true in business. Right? Like when we started building ClickFunnels and I started seeing... At first it was hard for me, because I didn't know it was going to become what it was. Like I'd tried to build ClickFunnels three times before and every time we'd fail. So Todd's like, "I'm going to build ClickFunnels." I'm like, "Cool," so we started building it. But as soon as I saw it and I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is really good. Okay. Like, all right." And I saw the vision what it could be, then it was like crazy. But again if I remember back, we used to do these hackathons. Todd would fly out before we launched ClickFunnels and spend three weeks in Boise. And we would go all day, all night and like sleep for three or four hours, get back up and keep going. And I don't think it was fun. Like looking back now, the nostalgia of it's amazing. Like, oh these were like the greatest times of our life. Like times I'll never forget, but in the moment they were horrible. I did not enjoy them. I was tired. I was miserable. I missed my family, missed my kids, missed my things. We didn't know if this was actually going to work. Like, there's all these things, but we did it because I'd seen the vision. Todd had seen the vision. We knew that there was something there. And so we pushed, and we pushed, and we pushed, and we grind through it. And now looking back, those are some of the best times. So, you got to do it in spite of the uninspired, in spite of not feeling worthy, or ready or whatever. Get yourself momentum, like hook to the vision, hook to the thing you have and it start running. So anyway, I hope that helps. It gives probably not the answer you're looking for. I wish I had a better secret magic button, but it's just understanding and realizing every morning, like, "All right, I don't want to move, but I got to. Let's go." So, I hope that helps. Thanks so much everyone for listening, and have a great night and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 26 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Do You Ever Find Yourself Uninspired and Not Wanting To Publish? full 434 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode we answer a question from one of our listeners. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets... On this episode we answer a question from one of our listeners. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Tonight, I'm going to have a special episode, actually. Someone on Instagram, who I've become friends with recently, been talking back and forth, asked me a really good question about feeling uninspired, and low confidence publishing and wondered what I do to keep myself confident and motivated. And I think the answer may surprise you. So, I wanted to do this as an episode instead of just responding back to him directly, and hopefully it'll help a lot of you guys out as well. All right everyone, so like I said, one of my new friends Alex, he had posted on Instagram or he actually sent me a DM, a question, and I thought it was really good question. I think it's something that I know I personally deal with way more often than I'd like to admit, and I'm sure a lot of you guys do as well. And so I thought I would, instead of just responding to him personally, respond through a podcast and hopefully it'll give you guys some value as well. So this is what he wrote. He said, "Hey man, question for you. If you ever find yourself feeling uninspired, low in confidence to publish every day or put yourself out there, what are some of your go-to activities to create lasting peak state again, where you feel full of fire, belief and vision. I'm in a spot that haven't been in a long time. I'm committed to breaking out of it, and I have faith that I will. I have a feeling that finding the right catalyst to help spark the fire again is the key." Anyway, so I thought it was really good question. And again, I think my answer may be different than him, or even probably most people think. And so to put it in context, I'm going to give you a quick glimpse at my life recently. It's summertime here at the time that I'm recording this, and I've got five amazing kids, three teenagers and two younger kids. And my teenagers have a party every night, something planned with friends and everything. And there's no school. And they're like, "Well there's no school tomorrow." I'm like, "Yeah, but I still have to get up tomorrow at six. I still have things to do. I still have all this stuff." My poor wife and I, usually during school time we put them to bed at nine and we've got two hours by ourselves before we pass out. Where now they're getting home from friend's houses around 11, and then we're trying to put them to bed. And then it's midnight, and then one, and then one thirty and then we're so tired. And right now is a really busy season, we are like 60 days away from Funnel Hacking Live. P.S. if you don’t have your tickets yet go to funnelhackinglive.com. And I find myself now every morning, literally waking up and I am feeling, I think exactly what Alex is feeling. I wake up and I'm tired, I'm uninspired, I have low confidence. I don't want to publish. I don't want to talk. I don't want to get a bed. I don't want to work out. It's tough. Today, I set my alarm for six and I snoozed it for an hour and a half. I kept pushing it over and over and over again. And I actually, this morning as I was going to the office. I was like, "Why am I struggling so much?" And I start thinking back, and I think in my mind, I think in most of our minds, we assume that we're always like, there are seasons and times when we're on fire and full belief and vision, all these kind of things. But when I started like really looking back, I started thinking about different parts of my life, especially some of my favorite parts of my life. And if I really remembered, I try to... I think most of the times our memories remember the good things and we fade out the bad, right? It's like, when you have a baby. Five minutes after my wife gave birth, if I was like, "Let's have another baby," she would probably strangle me. But then, a day goes by, then a week and then a month. And within three or four months, you forget the pain. All you remember is this cute little baby and you're like, "Oh, we should have kids again. It was so much fun." And then all of a sudden you're pregnant. You're like, "What was I thinking? Why didn't somebody tell me about this?" I think it's the same thing in life. Like if I honestly think back, I think back about wrestling. That was my first passion, my first love. I remember winning the state title. I remember these big things that are amazing, but if I'm really honest, I try to remember the practices. I remember cutting weight. I remember not eating for four or five days in a row, every single week for my entire high school career. And cutting weight, and not having energy, and being tired in class and like cutting weight. Those who've cut weight know what I'm talking about, but I was doing that. And I don't think that there was a time when I was really... It didn't feel good, I didn't enjoy it. It was hard. It was miserable. But then the thing at the end happened, and it was amazing. And because I had this desire, and this belief and this hope in the thing at the end, that's why I kept doing it. Cause I was like, "Ah, someday I want to win a state title. Someday I want to be an All-American, someday." And I had these things, so I put myself through these things. And then afterwards I hit the goals. You don't hit the goals and you remember the positives, and you remember these things and you kind of fade out the negative. But the reality is that a lot of times going through the stuff, like the day by, day by day, you don't come into it super inspired, and tons of energy, and high confidence and all those things that we think we are, or we're looking for, we're thinking it's going to happen. At least not that I remember, as I'm trying to be completely honest with myself, I'm remembering the practices and leading up to them, and most days I didn't want to go to practice. Like I did because when I got into it, I enjoyed it. But going to practice, I would dread. And then fast forward, most of you guys I think know, I had a chance to serve a mission for my church for two years. And so for two years I was on this mission, and I'm knocking doors, and I'm teaching about Jesus, and doing these things and had a great experience. Looking back now, it's one of the greatest highlights of my life. If I remember, every morning waking up, and we'd wake up super early, and study scriptures and do these things, and we were tired. And those who haven't been on a mission, or have never seen like the Mormon missionaries before, like you don't get to go on dates, you don't get to call home, you don't get to... You're with a companion and you don't go to movies, you don't have a TV, so it's tough. I remember every morning waking up, and knowing I had to go knock on doors, knowing I had to go do these things and dreading it. Like, ah it was hard consistently. And then we're going out and knocking door, and usually within doing it for a little while, it'd become fun. And we'd talk to people, like I enjoyed it. And as I'm enjoying it, I'm like, "Why was I so complaining? Like why was I so tired this morning? Why was I so miserable? I actually enjoy this stuff," but I still did. And if I look back on my mission now, it was two years I was out there. Like I would wage, I would bet that most mornings I woke up dreading having to do the work I actually had to do. And now I started thinking about this, about my entrepreneurial career. And again, I think back about all the highs and the big wins and all these kinds of things. But if I'm completely honest with myself, throughout the day by day, and the week by week, it was not sunshine and roses. I didn't wake up inspired, and excited and have tons of confidence and wanting to publish. Like it came... Usually me waking up and dreading it, and then going and doing it. And then as I started doing it, it was like, "Oh, I actually do enjoy this. This is kind of fun." It was weird to me because two days ago I was working on this webinar, and all day at the office I was having fun, I was doing it and I got home. And then first I was excited, "Tomorrow's going to be fun to work on it." But then again, my evening happened and it was crazy, and kids get to bed at midnight and I'm asleep at 1:00, and my alarm is going off at six in the morning and I'm just dreading going the office. Like, "I don't want to open the slides. I'm too tired. I don't want to work on it." And like, I'm miserable. Right? Uninspired, low confidence, like all these things. But I woke up, I did the thing, got out there, got to the office and started working on it. And then as I got back into it again, it became fun and I enjoyed it. And then eventually I'm going to do this webinar and I'm going to be stressed out. I'll probably pull all-nighters ahead of time, and then do the webinar and it's going to make a bunch of money. Then I'll be able to celebrate and all I'm going to remember is the celebration. Right? The baby came out, we made a bunch of money. Someone got baptized. Whatever the result was that I was working towards. And I'll Remember that, and it's all I remember is like how great it was. I mean, we did this event, the Funnel Hackathon event. It was interesting because, I was teaching a webinar model. I was like, we launched ClickFunnels... I always tell them they should do a webinar a week, every single week for a year. And I was like, "I tell people that, but that's not what I did." I was like, "I was doing at least a webinar a day, some days two or three webinars a day." And if you've ever done a webinar, like a two hour webinar, it's like working a nine hour or eight hour workday. Right? So you're doing three back-to-back-to-back, six hours of straight webinars. Like in my head, I remember this amazing thing in me, closing sales and like how amazing it was. But if I'm honest with myself, It was horrible. I couldn't talk, I was tired. I had no energy. I didn't want to be there. I didn't want to do the second let alone the third webinar that day, knowing that tomorrow I'd wake up and do it again. And it's just interesting because I think our brain blocks out so much those things. So I'm not saying that we can't be inspired, have high confidence in those kinds of things. But my bet is in most situations, most mornings you're going to wake up and you're going to be uninspired, you're going to have low confidence. You're not going to want to publish. You're going to want to go out there. You're not going to want to do a webinar, you're not going to want to publish your podcast, you're not going to want to knock doors. You're not going to want to go read a book, you're not going to want to write a book. You're not going to want to... Whatever the thing is. Because that's the reality of life, at least as far as I've experienced it. I try to think back like, when were the mornings I woke up super excited? And there have been some, I can tell you there have been, but they are few and far between. The thing that gets me moving in the morning is not the feeling of inspiration or confidence or anything in the morning. It is the vision of the thing at the end. It was me knowing I wanted to win a state title. Not just knowing I want to be a state champ, but knowing like in my heart and my soul and my gut, that's all I wanted. That's all I wanted in life was that, I wanted to get my hand raised. And it's because of that I was willing to go through anything. My coach has said, "You got to lose 30 pounds this week." Which happened every single week. I was like, "Okay." They're like, "Hey, you've got to go run four miles right now. You got to do this." Like I just said yes to everything, because that was the goal. That was the... Like, whatever it took to get there, I was okay with it. So the vision, the goal is the thing, but it doesn't mean you're going to feel the things I think we want to feel. I want to feel like, wake up in the morning, I want to go run. I want to go do these things. I want to go... But I don't think I ever feel those things. And maybe I'm the one that's messed up, I don't know. But if I'm honest with myself, I don't remember really feeling those things. I don't remember any morning when my alarm went off and I woke up feeling like I wanted to go run, feeling like I want to go lift weights again. Maybe every once in a while, but it was rare. The thing that was a constant was like this North Star, it was the vision. And again in high school, it was winning a state title and it was being an All-American, that's all I could dream about. Like I'd sit there without any food or water in my stomach for weeks... For not weeks, but days at a time, miserable, cutting 25, 30 pounds a week, every single week, week in and week out, over and over and over again. Being thirsty beyond any kind of anything you can imagine. For those who have never cut weight before, you think that that being hungry is hard. Like people who skip a meal and they're like, "I'm so hungry." Like hunger pains are easy. Thirst pains are bad. Like you skip water for a day, your hunger pains disappear and you can not eat for a week. Fine. But that those thirst pains like keep you up at night. But again, like what was the thing? It was the vision and it was doing it when you're not inspired, doing it when you don't feel like it, because you're normally not going to feel like it. Like right now, we're 60 days away from Funnel Hacking Live, I have so much work to do. We are rebuilding three different coaching programs and I'm tired. I've got six core presentations, nine total presentations that I haven't started on. I'm rewriting a core webinar that I have to do. We've got film dates. We've got events. We've got... If you guys saw my schedule for the next 60 days, you'd probably laugh or cry or a little bit of both. And I tell you what, I don't want to do most of it. But guess what I do want to do? I want Funnel Hacking Live to happen. I want... When it's over, the night Funnel Hacking Live ends, when I go to bed at night, there's this feeling that I don't know. It's not as good as getting my hand raised and wrestling. I'm not going to lie, but it's this feeling. And I felt it before, I feel like when the whole thing's done, and you see people and you see their change, and you see them leave and you get to go home and be in your room for a minute and just be like, "We did it," that feeling, that vision and seeing like the ripple effect that will come from that room, from the 3,500 people who will be in the room, that ripple effect that will come out from there around the world. That vision of that. Like for me, it's a tangible visually. It's like, I can see... For me, it's like I see the audience, I see this huge rock going boom, and hitting it. And the ripple effect goes to 3,500 people in the room. Then from there, it goes out to millions and millions of people around the world. That vision of that is what gets me moving and going. And for some reason, I wish... I keep thinking or wishing that vision would make it so I woke up every morning inspired, excited, with energy, but it doesn't. Because the reality is, if that's all it was, was the vision. I think we'd be able to... If the vision affected us, so we felt so good that was easy, then it would be easier. But for me at least it doesn't. So anyway, if any of you guys got a secret, let me know. But for me, it's just waking up thinking about, this is the thing. This is what I'm working towards, I want it, I'm going for it. And then start the process. And like I said, after I start the process, usually it feels good, but it's that initial momentum that's not fun, right? Like the initial waking up and going to the gym is not fun, but then when you start lifting. It's like, "Oh, I actually enjoy this." Getting up, getting dressed, getting to the office, not fun. Start working your slides, you're like, "Oh I actually enjoy this." This podcast episode for example, my brother who does my podcast is going out of town. He's been asking me for a week and a half for three episodes. And right now it is 11:27 at night, and I've been dreading this podcast all day long. I've been thinking about it and like talking myself out of it, like dreading it. Literally, I don't want to do this podcast. I don't want to do it. I'm tired, I just want to go to bed, I got so much stuff. Like I finally got my kids to bed. Now, last thing in the world I want to do is publish my podcast, the last thing I want to do. But now I'm 14 minutes and 25 seconds into it, and I'm actually really enjoying this. I could go for the two hours. Like I'm feeling the energy now, right? But initially you don't have it. And so I think that's the biggest thing is just, understanding that it's the initial momentum. That's the hardest part. In the morning you wake up and you're out of momentum, like getting back into momentum. That's a hard thing. And so most people, most humans on this planet never get back into momentum. They're just like, ugh. They just stop, right? So the thing that's going to get you from this stagnated stop spot is like, either the memory of the vision or the dream of the vision. When I was wrestling, it was the dream of being a state champ. Right now it's the memory of last years Funnel Hacking Live and the experience that I felt afterwards. Like, that's the thing that gets me out of bed into momentum, and with the momentum I start feeling more inspired, I start feeling more confident. I start listening, they start happening, but they don't happen right out of the gate. Most mornings, you're going to wake up not wanting to do with the thing you got to do. You're not going to feel good. You're not going to feel inspired, have confidence, any of those kinds of things. So it's like, you got to have this vision that pulls you into momentum, and then momentum picks up and that's when you start feeling good and start having fun. And right now, I want to go film 12 more podcast episodes, which is good because my brother told me I need to give him three by tomorrow. So, this is the first one, I've got two more tonight and I'm really excited about one of them, so I'll probably do that one next because now I'm in momentum. I'm feeling good. And anyway, so I hope that helps. I think the biggest thing that I want to share is just that if you're struggling every morning, for any of you guys, like that's okay. So do I, every morning, Very, very, very rare do I wake up and like, "Yes, let's go. Like, this is the thing." It's unfortunately not there and I don't think it's there for most people. And if it is there for you, that's amazing. Like run. That means you're waking up already in momentum, start running. Don't stop. But for most of us it's, man, making that vision. It's like what we talked about for wrestling, so clear, so vivid, so real, that you would go through anything to get it. First time I saw someone win a state title and I was like, "That's what I want more than air," literally, like more than food, more than water, more than friends, more than anything. And it became that real, that tangible that vivid where I could feel it, taste it, touch it, like smell, I could envision it. Like that's when I was willing to do anything and I did do anything, like literally. Insane things we did to get that goal. And same thing rings true in business. Right? Like when we started building ClickFunnels and I started seeing... At first it was hard for me, because I didn't know it was going to become what it was. Like I'd tried to build ClickFunnels three times before and every time we'd fail. So Todd's like, "I'm going to build ClickFunnels." I'm like, "Cool," so we started building it. But as soon as I saw it and I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is really good. Okay. Like, all right." And I saw the vision what it could be, then it was like crazy. But again if I remember back, we used to do these hackathons. Todd would fly out before we launched ClickFunnels and spend three weeks in Boise. And we would go all day, all night and like sleep for three or four hours, get back up and keep going. And I don't think it was fun. Like looking back now, the nostalgia of it's amazing. Like, oh these were like the greatest times of our life. Like times I'll never forget, but in the moment they were horrible. I did not enjoy them. I was tired. I was miserable. I missed my family, missed my kids, missed my things. We didn't know if this was actually going to work. Like, there's all these things, but we did it because I'd seen the vision. Todd had seen the vision. We knew that there was something there. And so we pushed, and we pushed, and we pushed, and we grind through it. And now looking back, those are some of the best times. So, you got to do it in spite of the uninspired, in spite of not feeling worthy, or ready or whatever. Get yourself momentum, like hook to the vision, hook to the thing you have and it start running. So anyway, I hope that helps. It gives probably not the answer you're looking for. I wish I had a better secret magic button, but it's just understanding and realizing every morning, like, "All right, I don't want to move, but I got to. Let's go." So, I hope that helps. Thanks so much everyone for listening, and have a great night and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. 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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Tonight, I'm going to have a special episode, actually. Someone on Instagram, who I've become friends with recently, been talking back and forth, asked me a really good question about feeling uninspired, and low confidence publishing and wondered what I do to keep myself confident and motivated. And I think the answer may surprise you. So, I wanted to do this as an episode instead of just responding back to him directly, and hopefully it'll help a lot of you guys out as well.

All right everyone, so like I said, one of my new friends Alex, he had posted on Instagram or he actually sent me a DM, a question, and I thought it was really good question. I think it's something that I know I personally deal with way more often than I'd like to admit, and I'm sure a lot of you guys do as well. And so I thought I would, instead of just responding to him personally, respond through a podcast and hopefully it'll give you guys some value as well. So this is what he wrote.

He said, "Hey man, question for you. If you ever find yourself feeling uninspired, low in confidence to publish every day or put yourself out there, what are some of your go-to activities to create lasting peak state again, where you feel full of fire, belief and vision. I'm in a spot that haven't been in a long time. I'm committed to breaking out of it, and I have faith that I will. I have a feeling that finding the right catalyst to help spark the fire again is the key." Anyway, so I thought it was really good question. And again, I think my answer may be different than him, or even probably most people think.

And so to put it in context, I'm going to give you a quick glimpse at my life recently. It's summertime here at the time that I'm recording this, and I've got five amazing kids, three teenagers and two younger kids. And my teenagers have a party every night, something planned with friends and everything. And there's no school. And they're like, "Well there's no school tomorrow." I'm like, "Yeah, but I still have to get up tomorrow at six. I still have things to do. I still have all this stuff." My poor wife and I, usually during school time we put them to bed at nine and we've got two hours by ourselves before we pass out. Where now they're getting home from friend's houses around 11, and then we're trying to put them to bed. And then it's midnight, and then one, and then one thirty and then we're so tired.

And right now is a really busy season, we are like 60 days away from Funnel Hacking Live. P.S. if you don’t have your tickets yet go to funnelhackinglive.com. And I find myself now every morning, literally waking up and I am feeling, I think exactly what Alex is feeling. I wake up and I'm tired, I'm uninspired, I have low confidence. I don't want to publish. I don't want to talk. I don't want to get a bed. I don't want to work out. It's tough. Today, I set my alarm for six and I snoozed it for an hour and a half. I kept pushing it over and over and over again. And I actually, this morning as I was going to the office. I was like, "Why am I struggling so much?" And I start thinking back, and I think in my mind, I think in most of our minds, we assume that we're always like, there are seasons and times when we're on fire and full belief and vision, all these kind of things.

But when I started like really looking back, I started thinking about different parts of my life, especially some of my favorite parts of my life. And if I really remembered, I try to... I think most of the times our memories remember the good things and we fade out the bad, right? It's like, when you have a baby. Five minutes after my wife gave birth, if I was like, "Let's have another baby," she would probably strangle me. But then, a day goes by, then a week and then a month. And within three or four months, you forget the pain. All you remember is this cute little baby and you're like, "Oh, we should have kids again. It was so much fun." And then all of a sudden you're pregnant. You're like, "What was I thinking? Why didn't somebody tell me about this?"

I think it's the same thing in life. Like if I honestly think back, I think back about wrestling. That was my first passion, my first love. I remember winning the state title. I remember these big things that are amazing, but if I'm really honest, I try to remember the practices. I remember cutting weight. I remember not eating for four or five days in a row, every single week for my entire high school career. And cutting weight, and not having energy, and being tired in class and like cutting weight. Those who've cut weight know what I'm talking about, but I was doing that. And I don't think that there was a time when I was really... It didn't feel good, I didn't enjoy it. It was hard. It was miserable. But then the thing at the end happened, and it was amazing.

And because I had this desire, and this belief and this hope in the thing at the end, that's why I kept doing it. Cause I was like, "Ah, someday I want to win a state title. Someday I want to be an All-American, someday." And I had these things, so I put myself through these things. And then afterwards I hit the goals. You don't hit the goals and you remember the positives, and you remember these things and you kind of fade out the negative. But the reality is that a lot of times going through the stuff, like the day by, day by day, you don't come into it super inspired, and tons of energy, and high confidence and all those things that we think we are, or we're looking for, we're thinking it's going to happen.

At least not that I remember, as I'm trying to be completely honest with myself, I'm remembering the practices and leading up to them, and most days I didn't want to go to practice. Like I did because when I got into it, I enjoyed it. But going to practice, I would dread. And then fast forward, most of you guys I think know, I had a chance to serve a mission for my church for two years. And so for two years I was on this mission, and I'm knocking doors, and I'm teaching about Jesus, and doing these things and had a great experience.

Looking back now, it's one of the greatest highlights of my life. If I remember, every morning waking up, and we'd wake up super early, and study scriptures and do these things, and we were tired. And those who haven't been on a mission, or have never seen like the Mormon missionaries before, like you don't get to go on dates, you don't get to call home, you don't get to... You're with a companion and you don't go to movies, you don't have a TV, so it's tough. I remember every morning waking up, and knowing I had to go knock on doors, knowing I had to go do these things and dreading it. Like, ah it was hard consistently.

And then we're going out and knocking door, and usually within doing it for a little while, it'd become fun. And we'd talk to people, like I enjoyed it. And as I'm enjoying it, I'm like, "Why was I so complaining? Like why was I so tired this morning? Why was I so miserable? I actually enjoy this stuff," but I still did. And if I look back on my mission now, it was two years I was out there. Like I would wage, I would bet that most mornings I woke up dreading having to do the work I actually had to do.

And now I started thinking about this, about my entrepreneurial career. And again, I think back about all the highs and the big wins and all these kinds of things. But if I'm completely honest with myself, throughout the day by day, and the week by week, it was not sunshine and roses. I didn't wake up inspired, and excited and have tons of confidence and wanting to publish. Like it came... Usually me waking up and dreading it, and then going and doing it. And then as I started doing it, it was like, "Oh, I actually do enjoy this. This is kind of fun."

It was weird to me because two days ago I was working on this webinar, and all day at the office I was having fun, I was doing it and I got home. And then first I was excited, "Tomorrow's going to be fun to work on it." But then again, my evening happened and it was crazy, and kids get to bed at midnight and I'm asleep at 1:00, and my alarm is going off at six in the morning and I'm just dreading going the office. Like, "I don't want to open the slides. I'm too tired. I don't want to work on it." And like, I'm miserable. Right? Uninspired, low confidence, like all these things.

But I woke up, I did the thing, got out there, got to the office and started working on it. And then as I got back into it again, it became fun and I enjoyed it. And then eventually I'm going to do this webinar and I'm going to be stressed out. I'll probably pull all-nighters ahead of time, and then do the webinar and it's going to make a bunch of money. Then I'll be able to celebrate and all I'm going to remember is the celebration. Right?

The baby came out, we made a bunch of money. Someone got baptized. Whatever the result was that I was working towards. And I'll Remember that, and it's all I remember is like how great it was. I mean, we did this event, the Funnel Hackathon event. It was interesting because, I was teaching a webinar model. I was like, we launched ClickFunnels... I always tell them they should do a webinar a week, every single week for a year. And I was like, "I tell people that, but that's not what I did." I was like, "I was doing at least a webinar a day, some days two or three webinars a day."

And if you've ever done a webinar, like a two hour webinar, it's like working a nine hour or eight hour workday. Right? So you're doing three back-to-back-to-back, six hours of straight webinars. Like in my head, I remember this amazing thing in me, closing sales and like how amazing it was. But if I'm honest with myself, It was horrible. I couldn't talk, I was tired. I had no energy. I didn't want to be there. I didn't want to do the second let alone the third webinar that day, knowing that tomorrow I'd wake up and do it again. And it's just interesting because I think our brain blocks out so much those things.

So I'm not saying that we can't be inspired, have high confidence in those kinds of things. But my bet is in most situations, most mornings you're going to wake up and you're going to be uninspired, you're going to have low confidence. You're not going to want to publish. You're going to want to go out there. You're not going to want to do a webinar, you're not going to want to publish your podcast, you're not going to want to knock doors. You're not going to want to go read a book, you're not going to want to write a book. You're not going to want to... Whatever the thing is.

Because that's the reality of life, at least as far as I've experienced it. I try to think back like, when were the mornings I woke up super excited? And there have been some, I can tell you there have been, but they are few and far between. The thing that gets me moving in the morning is not the feeling of inspiration or confidence or anything in the morning. It is the vision of the thing at the end. It was me knowing I wanted to win a state title. Not just knowing I want to be a state champ, but knowing like in my heart and my soul and my gut, that's all I wanted. That's all I wanted in life was that, I wanted to get my hand raised. And it's because of that I was willing to go through anything.

My coach has said, "You got to lose 30 pounds this week." Which happened every single week. I was like, "Okay." They're like, "Hey, you've got to go run four miles right now. You got to do this." Like I just said yes to everything, because that was the goal. That was the... Like, whatever it took to get there, I was okay with it. So the vision, the goal is the thing, but it doesn't mean you're going to feel the things I think we want to feel. I want to feel like, wake up in the morning, I want to go run. I want to go do these things. I want to go... But I don't think I ever feel those things. And maybe I'm the one that's messed up, I don't know. But if I'm honest with myself, I don't remember really feeling those things.

I don't remember any morning when my alarm went off and I woke up feeling like I wanted to go run, feeling like I want to go lift weights again. Maybe every once in a while, but it was rare. The thing that was a constant was like this North Star, it was the vision. And again in high school, it was winning a state title and it was being an All-American, that's all I could dream about. Like I'd sit there without any food or water in my stomach for weeks... For not weeks, but days at a time, miserable, cutting 25, 30 pounds a week, every single week, week in and week out, over and over and over again. Being thirsty beyond any kind of anything you can imagine. For those who have never cut weight before, you think that that being hungry is hard. Like people who skip a meal and they're like, "I'm so hungry." Like hunger pains are easy. Thirst pains are bad. Like you skip water for a day, your hunger pains disappear and you can not eat for a week. Fine. But that those thirst pains like keep you up at night.

But again, like what was the thing? It was the vision and it was doing it when you're not inspired, doing it when you don't feel like it, because you're normally not going to feel like it. Like right now, we're 60 days away from Funnel Hacking Live, I have so much work to do. We are rebuilding three different coaching programs and I'm tired. I've got six core presentations, nine total presentations that I haven't started on. I'm rewriting a core webinar that I have to do. We've got film dates. We've got events. We've got... If you guys saw my schedule for the next 60 days, you'd probably laugh or cry or a little bit of both.

And I tell you what, I don't want to do most of it. But guess what I do want to do? I want Funnel Hacking Live to happen. I want... When it's over, the night Funnel Hacking Live ends, when I go to bed at night, there's this feeling that I don't know. It's not as good as getting my hand raised and wrestling. I'm not going to lie, but it's this feeling. And I felt it before, I feel like when the whole thing's done, and you see people and you see their change, and you see them leave and you get to go home and be in your room for a minute and just be like, "We did it," that feeling, that vision and seeing like the ripple effect that will come from that room, from the 3,500 people who will be in the room, that ripple effect that will come out from there around the world. That vision of that. Like for me, it's a tangible visually. It's like, I can see...

For me, it's like I see the audience, I see this huge rock going boom, and hitting it. And the ripple effect goes to 3,500 people in the room. Then from there, it goes out to millions and millions of people around the world. That vision of that is what gets me moving and going. And for some reason, I wish... I keep thinking or wishing that vision would make it so I woke up every morning inspired, excited, with energy, but it doesn't. Because the reality is, if that's all it was, was the vision. I think we'd be able to... If the vision affected us, so we felt so good that was easy, then it would be easier. But for me at least it doesn't. So anyway, if any of you guys got a secret, let me know.

But for me, it's just waking up thinking about, this is the thing. This is what I'm working towards, I want it, I'm going for it. And then start the process. And like I said, after I start the process, usually it feels good, but it's that initial momentum that's not fun, right? Like the initial waking up and going to the gym is not fun, but then when you start lifting. It's like, "Oh, I actually enjoy this." Getting up, getting dressed, getting to the office, not fun. Start working your slides, you're like, "Oh I actually enjoy this." This podcast episode for example, my brother who does my podcast is going out of town. He's been asking me for a week and a half for three episodes. And right now it is 11:27 at night, and I've been dreading this podcast all day long.

I've been thinking about it and like talking myself out of it, like dreading it. Literally, I don't want to do this podcast. I don't want to do it. I'm tired, I just want to go to bed, I got so much stuff. Like I finally got my kids to bed. Now, last thing in the world I want to do is publish my podcast, the last thing I want to do. But now I'm 14 minutes and 25 seconds into it, and I'm actually really enjoying this. I could go for the two hours. Like I'm feeling the energy now, right? But initially you don't have it.

And so I think that's the biggest thing is just, understanding that it's the initial momentum. That's the hardest part. In the morning you wake up and you're out of momentum, like getting back into momentum. That's a hard thing. And so most people, most humans on this planet never get back into momentum. They're just like, ugh. They just stop, right? So the thing that's going to get you from this stagnated stop spot is like, either the memory of the vision or the dream of the vision.

When I was wrestling, it was the dream of being a state champ. Right now it's the memory of last years Funnel Hacking Live and the experience that I felt afterwards. Like, that's the thing that gets me out of bed into momentum, and with the momentum I start feeling more inspired, I start feeling more confident. I start listening, they start happening, but they don't happen right out of the gate.

Most mornings, you're going to wake up not wanting to do with the thing you got to do. You're not going to feel good. You're not going to feel inspired, have confidence, any of those kinds of things. So it's like, you got to have this vision that pulls you into momentum, and then momentum picks up and that's when you start feeling good and start having fun. And right now, I want to go film 12 more podcast episodes, which is good because my brother told me I need to give him three by tomorrow. So, this is the first one, I've got two more tonight and I'm really excited about one of them, so I'll probably do that one next because now I'm in momentum. I'm feeling good. And anyway, so I hope that helps. I think the biggest thing that I want to share is just that if you're struggling every morning, for any of you guys, like that's okay. So do I, every morning,

Very, very, very rare do I wake up and like, "Yes, let's go. Like, this is the thing." It's unfortunately not there and I don't think it's there for most people. And if it is there for you, that's amazing. Like run. That means you're waking up already in momentum, start running. Don't stop. But for most of us it's, man, making that vision. It's like what we talked about for wrestling, so clear, so vivid, so real, that you would go through anything to get it. First time I saw someone win a state title and I was like, "That's what I want more than air," literally, like more than food, more than water, more than friends, more than anything. And it became that real, that tangible that vivid where I could feel it, taste it, touch it, like smell, I could envision it. Like that's when I was willing to do anything and I did do anything, like literally.

Insane things we did to get that goal. And same thing rings true in business. Right? Like when we started building ClickFunnels and I started seeing... At first it was hard for me, because I didn't know it was going to become what it was. Like I'd tried to build ClickFunnels three times before and every time we'd fail. So Todd's like, "I'm going to build ClickFunnels." I'm like, "Cool," so we started building it. But as soon as I saw it and I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is really good. Okay. Like, all right." And I saw the vision what it could be, then it was like crazy. But again if I remember back, we used to do these hackathons. Todd would fly out before we launched ClickFunnels and spend three weeks in Boise. And we would go all day, all night and like sleep for three or four hours, get back up and keep going.

And I don't think it was fun. Like looking back now, the nostalgia of it's amazing. Like, oh these were like the greatest times of our life. Like times I'll never forget, but in the moment they were horrible. I did not enjoy them. I was tired. I was miserable. I missed my family, missed my kids, missed my things. We didn't know if this was actually going to work. Like, there's all these things, but we did it because I'd seen the vision. Todd had seen the vision. We knew that there was something there. And so we pushed, and we pushed, and we pushed, and we grind through it. And now looking back, those are some of the best times.

So, you got to do it in spite of the uninspired, in spite of not feeling worthy, or ready or whatever. Get yourself momentum, like hook to the vision, hook to the thing you have and it start running. So anyway, I hope that helps. It gives probably not the answer you're looking for. I wish I had a better secret magic button, but it's just understanding and realizing every morning, like, "All right, I don't want to move, but I got to. Let's go." So, I hope that helps. Thanks so much everyone for listening, and have a great night and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 1234 no The Upsell That Made Me Sick To My Stomach... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-upsell-that-made-me-sick-to-my-stomach This is when you’ll know your offer will actually start converting. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I am at Lake Powell. If you've been listening to some of these past episodes you know that I'm on family vacation right now. I'm unplugged, and so I am stuck to my thoughts, which has been really fun, and just thinking through a lot of things, and hopefully... In the past, people told me that Lake Powell episodes are some of the best ones. Hopefully this gives you some ideas, some ahas, some insights in you, your life, your business, and a bunch of other really cool things. Okay. So what I want to talk you guys about today is actually something that happened right before we left for Lake Powell. So obviously I've been playing this marketing game for a long, long, long, long time. Right? I love building funnels. I love creating offers. I've been doing it for as long as anyone I know. I've been doing it... I think I'm on, like, my 20th year or so. I've been playing this game. I love it and I think I'm pretty good at it. I'm not the best at all areas of it, but I think as a whole, I'd say I'm in the top 1% of people who play this game and I enjoy it. Hopefully you enjoy it as well. And I enjoy talking about it, hopefully as you enjoy listening to me talk about it. But I had little things that happened right before I left that was really, really cool. So we brought in a couple of new people on our team, some really, really good copywriters, conversion analytics people. And we're looking at some of our old funnels that have done well traditionally. In fact, specifically looking at our book funnels. We have three really good book funnels, my Dotcom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic secrets books, which have a lot of traffic to those funnels. Traditionally have done really, really well. And the question was, could we make these better? And one of the reasons why we had to do it is be one of our offers, upsell number two, we had to change out because it was a partnership with someone and we had to change it out. And so it got us kind of thinking like, well, how do we change this? And as long as we're changing it, let's brainstorm again. And so it was nice because I had a whole bunch of people who weren't me, who weren't there initially when we brainstormed the book funnel and we sat down and said, "Okay, let's kind of talk about this. What can we do? What does it look like?" And specifically there's someone new on our team. Her name is Sabah and she's awesome. And that's all I'm going to tell you because I don't want you guys hiring her away from me. She's really, really cool. But she went through all of the offers and the upsells and everything, and I made kind of a pallet. Here's like all the stuff we have. We have basically unlimited... I've created a billion products. I'm like, "We have unlimited content. We do whatever we want. Well, what should we create?" And so I kind of gave her the pallet. She spent a couple of days and came back. We started looking at this upsell flow and it was really cool for a couple of reasons. One is it's interesting, things that you kind of forget. Like at my events, when we teach upsell flows, I always talk about the importance of the strategic flow of your upsell flow, right? That people always ask me, "What's the first price point? What's the second price point?" And price point is not the important thing. It's the flow. Like if someone buys this, say they bu the Dotcom Secrets book. So it solved the problem for them. Now they have this book that's going to show them how to funnel. So next upsell has to solve a new problem. So that by buying this first product, what is the new problem it created, right? So if you bought Dotcom Secrets book, for example, now you know how to make funnels, but now you're like, "I don't know how to get traffic to my funnels," or, "I don't know how to write, copy for my funnels." Or whatever the next problem is. Or, "I know how to build a funnel now, but I need help. I need someone to hold my hand. I want coaching. I want accountability. I want..." Whatever. There's a million things it could be, but it's very strategic. And what I realized, interestingly enough, is that, and I wonder if you guys do this too, or if it's just me, but sometimes my ego gets in the way. And so my book funnels were, I literally built the book funnels because I wanted my first upsell to be Dotcom Secrets or the secrets chosen, my box set of all my books. Which is cool because it's like now everyone has a chance to buy my books. And I forced that as the upsell on all three of my funnels, but looking at the actual data and numbers, they didn't... I mean, they convert good, but not amazing. I didn't change it because I was like, "Well, that's what I want to sell, that's what I want to sell," as opposed to me asking the question, "Well, what do people actually want to buy?" And so what was cool was when Saba came back and said, "Okay, let's look at all these different offers." She kind of restructured things. And she took like my book offer where right now, you buy the books and you get this one book for free. And it's really, really cool. She's like, 'What if we did that, plus we gave them this?" I think it was One Funnel Away Challenge. "Plus we gave them this software over here, and plus we give them...". It was like five or six things. And I remember like, as she's going through, I was like kind of sick to my stomach, like, ugh. But I didn't say anything, because I'm trying to be cool, you know? And I don't want to... I hate when you're brainstorming, someone comes in and has all the negative things to say about it. So I felt this like sick feeling in my stomach where, I was like, oh, okay. And then she talked about upsell number two and then proposed upsell number three. And upsell number two was like, we can give them this, and this, and this. I'm like, "You can't do that because this one's like a thousand dollars, and this one's this over here." And I was kind of freaking out. And the next upsell, she's going through it, and in my head, I'm just stressing out because I'm like, "We can't sell these things for that cheap. This is insanity." I'm just like this feeling of just like uneasiness because of this. And then we sat there, we were talking about it and we're looking at, and I was drawing it out on a whiteboard trying to map it out in my head so I could come to grips with this whole thing. And all of a sudden, I stopped for a moment, and I was like, "Oh my gosh. Look at this internal anxiety I have going through this process." And I started thinking about that. And I was like, oh my gosh. I am struggling because this offer is so good that I don't want to do it. Now what do you think about an offer that's so good that you feel sick to your stomach actually giving it somebody because it's such a good deal? That's probably the right offer, right, if you're trying to make an irresistible, one-time offer. You're like, "I sell of this course for $97. I'll sell it to you for 97 bucks." That's an offer, but it's not an irresistible, insane offer. When you are sick to your stomach because you're like, there's no way we can do this. I can't give people this and this and all these things for this price because it's not worth it to me. You're sick to your stomach? That's when you're close. That's when you probably have the right offer. And for me it was this big aha of just like, oh my gosh, I've been stingy. I've been trying to feed my ego and trying to make sure that the offers are the things that I want to sell, not what people actually want. And then looking at it from, okay, I'm not just making an offer, I got to make something irresistible. If I want to go from like a 15, 20% conversion rate on an upsell rate to a 40, 50%, it has to be irresistible. We're in the process right now of purchasing a company. I can't talk about it yet. As soon as we finalize it... In fact, the deal might be finalized when I get back from Lake Powell. So I'm sure you will hear me shouting it from the roofs. But the funnel, we're literally buying this thing because the funnels are so good. Like when someone buys a product through the funnel, the average cart value is like $180, which means, I can spend $180 to sell this front end product, which is crazy. It's so good. But you look at the upsell flow and it's the same thing. It's the most insane, irresistible offer where you... I'm sure when the person we're buying the company from was first putting it together, he was sick to his stomach, like, "Oh, I could easily sell this for a thousand bucks or $2000 or more." And he's like, "I'm just going to do it for $97." Like, wait, wait, what? You can't do that. This is insane. "I'm sick to my stomach. We spent $50,000 creating this thing. I can't sell it you for $97." And when you get that internal dialogue in your head where you're fighting it because this doesn't make any logical sense, that's when you probably have an actual irresistible offer. That's the key. And that was my big humbling this weekend, or this week before I came out to Lake Powell, was that. And I've been thinking a lot about it, like sitting on the boat. As I'm sitting here I'm thinking like, "Man, I felt so much anxiety and frustration." Is kind of like how many of you guys have ever seen the greatest show of all time, 24? If not, you should pause this right now, go watch all the eight or nine seasons of it and then come back and finish the episode. Otherwise you're going to... It's more important than anything else you could be doing right now is watching every episode of 24. But I digress. So there's this bad guy in 24 and he's the president. President Logan? I can't remember exactly. It's been a while since I've watched it, but he's the president. And I remember that at first I thought that the guy who played the president, I was like, I hate this character. I hate him. And every single episode, it got worse. I was like, I hate him. I remember being so angry, upset watching, episode, after episode, after episode. This president was such a horrible person and so angry. And I was like, I hate him. Why did they pick him to be the actor? Why these things? And being so frustrated and angry and I couldn't sleep. And I was so angry at this person, this president, I hated him so bad. And all of a sudden one day I stopped and I was like, oh my gosh. Look how I feel right now. I hated this guy, but I'm realizing now, I don't hate him. He's probably one of the best actors I've ever seen because he's making me have this visceral response to everything he's saying. And all of a sudden I was like, oh my gosh, he's not the worst character of all time. He's the best character. To make me hate him that bad is magical. Same thing when I first met Ben Settle. I joined Ben Settle's email list and I used to get the daily emails. And I remember I kept reading them and kept reading them and they would annoy me so bad, get me so frustrated. And it was probably two or three weeks into this email sequence where I was like... And I don't unsubscribe from anything ever. And I remember the emails were coming in. I read one. I was so upset that I was going to unsubscribe because I was so angry at him and his philosophies, and his thoughts and everything. I was like, oh, and I was about to unsubscribe. I stopped for a second. I was like, oh my gosh, look how I feel. Notice how he's making me feel right now? He's giving me, once again, this visceral response where I'm like angry, and upset, and frustrated. And so much so that I wanted to like, oh, and I was like, oh my gosh. I think prior to that I was like, he's the worst marketer ever. I hate this guy. He's wrong about everything. And all of a sudden I was like, oh, oh my gosh. Look how he's making me feel. He's an amazing marketer. He got me to feel this way. Never in my life I've read every email from a marketer and I'd read every email of his for months because I was so angry and so upset and so frustrated. And I was like, I bought his thing. I bought the other thing even though I hated him and frustrated by it and annoyed by him. In fact, the first time I met Ben, I told him that story. I was like, "Just so you know, like I hated you at first." I was like, 'Every email that would come, I would get so annoyed and so upset and all of a sudden I realized, oh, look at how he made me feel." To cause this kind of feeling in me shows that he's a master, not someone who's bad. And so a lot of times I want you to start noticing how you're feeling as these things are happening to you because a lot of times our brain is pushing us one way and hating this thing where it could be like the greatest thing we could have learned. And so, anyway, I wanted to share that because that's how I felt when we were going through this upsell flow. And so next time you're creating an offer and you're working on your upsells, your down sells or your, whatever your thing is, you're working on, I want you to start thinking about that, like how do I make this offer so good that I literally am sick to my stomach and frustrated and angry and like, oh, I can't do this? Like, there's no way we can give people this much value. We just can't do it. And all of a sudden you're like, that's it. We got there. We finally got to a point where I don't want to do this because I feel like the value is so high. Like they always say in any good offer, but any kind of good business deal or business partnership, both people should feel like they got the better end of the stick. Right? And if not, it means that someone felt like they got a worse end and that's not good. You want both people to feel like they got a better end of the stick. So if I make an offer so good, I'm like, this is insane. I can't do this because it's such a good offer, and honestly feeling that way deep in your gut. And then the customer coming in like, "Oh my gosh. They only want $97 for that?" Or $200, whatever the price is like, oh my gosh. Now both sides feel like they got the better end of the stick. That's how to make irresistible offers. That's how you create raving fans. That's how you create amazing offers. Anyway, I wanted to share it with you guys because it was interesting. It was fascinating. And I hope that helps you guys. Go back to your old offers. Look at the upsell flow and be like, what else could I add? What else could I add? What else could I tweak? How can we make this offer better? How can we make it better? How can I up this offer? How can I increase it even better? And keep thinking through that. And the better you make the offer, the more likely people will be to give you money. A lot of times people are like, "My upsell's not converting. What do I need to do?" I'm like, "Your offer sucks. Make a better offer." "This is the best thing I've got." Well then make something better. Like, what else can you give them? What else can you create? What else can you invent? What else can you put together? You need to make something that is so irresistible that they look at it, they're like, "I have to give them money. I need this thing. This is such a good deal. It's such a good offer. I have to give them money." That's the feeling they have to have or else you missed it. So anyway, with that said, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Hopefully you guys go back and look at all of your old funnels, all your old offers. Look at things you're doing and figure out what else can I bundle? What else can I add to make the software even more irresistible? And keep doing it until you feel sick to your stomach. And that's when you're probably to the spot where your offer's finally going to start converting. Okay, I hope that helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, for subscribing, for hanging out. If you liked this podcast, please do go to iTunes and leave me a review. That'd be pretty sweet. And with that said, I'll see you guys on the next episode. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 21 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Upsell That Made Me Sick To My Stomach... full 433 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is when you’ll know your offer will actually start converting. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing... This is when you’ll know your offer will actually start converting. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I am at Lake Powell. If you've been listening to some of these past episodes you know that I'm on family vacation right now. I'm unplugged, and so I am stuck to my thoughts, which has been really fun, and just thinking through a lot of things, and hopefully... In the past, people told me that Lake Powell episodes are some of the best ones. Hopefully this gives you some ideas, some ahas, some insights in you, your life, your business, and a bunch of other really cool things. Okay. So what I want to talk you guys about today is actually something that happened right before we left for Lake Powell. So obviously I've been playing this marketing game for a long, long, long, long time. Right? I love building funnels. I love creating offers. I've been doing it for as long as anyone I know. I've been doing it... I think I'm on, like, my 20th year or so. I've been playing this game. I love it and I think I'm pretty good at it. I'm not the best at all areas of it, but I think as a whole, I'd say I'm in the top 1% of people who play this game and I enjoy it. Hopefully you enjoy it as well. And I enjoy talking about it, hopefully as you enjoy listening to me talk about it. But I had little things that happened right before I left that was really, really cool. So we brought in a couple of new people on our team, some really, really good copywriters, conversion analytics people. And we're looking at some of our old funnels that have done well traditionally. In fact, specifically looking at our book funnels. We have three really good book funnels, my Dotcom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic secrets books, which have a lot of traffic to those funnels. Traditionally have done really, really well. And the question was, could we make these better? And one of the reasons why we had to do it is be one of our offers, upsell number two, we had to change out because it was a partnership with someone and we had to change it out. And so it got us kind of thinking like, well, how do we change this? And as long as we're changing it, let's brainstorm again. And so it was nice because I had a whole bunch of people who weren't me, who weren't there initially when we brainstormed the book funnel and we sat down and said, "Okay, let's kind of talk about this. What can we do? What does it look like?" And specifically there's someone new on our team. Her name is Sabah and she's awesome. And that's all I'm going to tell you because I don't want you guys hiring her away from me. She's really, really cool. But she went through all of the offers and the upsells and everything, and I made kind of a pallet. Here's like all the stuff we have. We have basically unlimited... I've created a billion products. I'm like, "We have unlimited content. We do whatever we want. Well, what should we create?" And so I kind of gave her the pallet. She spent a couple of days and came back. We started looking at this upsell flow and it was really cool for a couple of reasons. One is it's interesting, things that you kind of forget. Like at my events, when we teach upsell flows, I always talk about the importance of the strategic flow of your upsell flow, right? That people always ask me, "What's the first price point? What's the second price point?" And price point is not the important thing. It's the flow. Like if someone buys this, say they bu the Dotcom Secrets book. So it solved the problem for them. Now they have this book that's going to show them how to funnel. So next upsell has to solve a new problem. So that by buying this first product, what is the new problem it created, right? So if you bought Dotcom Secrets book, for example, now you know how to make funnels, but now you're like, "I don't know how to get traffic to my funnels," or, "I don't know how to write, copy for my funnels." Or whatever the next problem is. Or, "I know how to build a funnel now, but I need help. I need someone to hold my hand. I want coaching. I want accountability. I want..." Whatever. There's a million things it could be, but it's very strategic. And what I realized, interestingly enough, is that, and I wonder if you guys do this too, or if it's just me, but sometimes my ego gets in the way. And so my book funnels were, I literally built the book funnels because I wanted my first upsell to be Dotcom Secrets or the secrets chosen, my box set of all my books. Which is cool because it's like now everyone has a chance to buy my books. And I forced that as the upsell on all three of my funnels, but looking at the actual data and numbers, they didn't... I mean, they convert good, but not amazing. I didn't change it because I was like, "Well, that's what I want to sell, that's what I want to sell," as opposed to me asking the question, "Well, what do people actually want to buy?" And so what was cool was when Saba came back and said, "Okay, let's look at all these different offers." She kind of restructured things. And she took like my book offer where right now, you buy the books and you get this one book for free. And it's really, really cool. She's like, 'What if we did that, plus we gave them this?" I think it was One Funnel Away Challenge. "Plus we gave them this software over here, and plus we give them...". It was like five or six things. And I remember like, as she's going through, I was like kind of sick to my stomach, like, ugh. But I didn't say anything, because I'm trying to be cool, you know? And I don't want to... I hate when you're brainstorming, someone comes in and has all the negative things to say about it. So I felt this like sick feeling in my stomach where, I was like, oh, okay. And then she talked about upsell number two and then proposed upsell number three. And upsell number two was like, we can give them this, and this, and this. I'm like, "You can't do that because this one's like a thousand dollars, and this one's this over here." And I was kind of freaking out. And the next upsell, she's going through it, and in my head, I'm just stressing out because I'm like, "We can't sell these things for that cheap. This is insanity." I'm just like this feeling of just like uneasiness because of this. And then we sat there, we were talking about it and we're looking at, and I was drawing it out on a whiteboard trying to map it out in my head so I could come to grips with this whole thing. And all of a sudden, I stopped for a moment, and I was like, "Oh my gosh. Look at this internal anxiety I have going through this process." And I started thinking about that. And I was like, oh my gosh. I am struggling because this offer is so good that I don't want to do it. Now what do you think about an offer that's so good that you feel sick to your stomach actually giving it somebody because it's such a good deal? That's probably the right offer, right, if you're trying to make an irresistible, one-time offer. You're like, "I sell of this course for $97. I'll sell it to you for 97 bucks." That's an offer, but it's not an irresistible, insane offer. When you are sick to your stomach because you're like, there's no way we can do this. I can't give people this and this and all these things for this price because it's not worth it to me. You're sick to your stomach? That's when you're close. That's when you probably have the right offer. And for me it was this big aha of just like, oh my gosh, I've been stingy. I've been trying to feed my ego and trying to make sure that the offers are the things that I want to sell, not what people actually want. And then looking at it from, okay, I'm not just making an offer, I got to make something irresistible. If I want to go from like a 15, 20% conversion rate on an upsell rate to a 40, 50%, it has to be irresistible. We're in the process right now of purchasing a company. I can't talk about it yet. As soon as we finalize it... In fact, the deal might be finalized when I get back from Lake Powell. So I'm sure you will hear me shouting it from the roofs. But the funnel, we're literally buying this thing because the funnels are so good. Like when someone buys a product through the funnel, the average cart value is like $180, which means, I can spend $180 to sell this front end product, which is crazy. It's so good. But you look at the upsell flow and it's the same thing. It's the most insane, irresistible offer where you... I'm sure when the person we're buying the company from was first putting it together, he was sick to his stomach, like, "Oh, I could easily sell this for a thousand bucks or $2000 or more." And he's like, "I'm just going to do it for $97." Like, wait, wait, what? You can't do that. This is insane. "I'm sick to my stomach. We spent $50,000 creating this thing. I can't sell it you for $97." And when you get that internal dialogue in your head where you're fighting it because this doesn't make any logical sense, that's when you probably have an actual irresistible offer. That's the key. And that was my big humbling this weekend, or this week before I came out to Lake Powell, was that. And I've been thinking a lot about it, like sitting on the boat. As I'm sitting here I'm thinking like, "Man, I felt so much anxiety and frustration." Is kind of like how many of you guys have ever seen the greatest show of all time, 24? If not, you should pause this right now, go watch all the eight or nine seasons of it and then come back and finish the episode. Otherwise you're going to... It's more important than anything else you could be doing right now is watching every episode of 24. But I digress. So there's this bad guy in 24 and he's the president. President Logan? I can't remember exactly. It's been a while since I've watched it, but he's the president. And I remember that at first I thought that the guy who played the president, I was like, I hate this character. I hate him. And every single episode, it got worse. I was like, I hate him. I remember being so angry, upset watching, episode, after episode, after episode. This president was such a horrible person and so angry. And I was like, I hate him. Why did they pick him to be the actor? Why these things? And being so frustrated and angry and I couldn't sleep. And I was so angry at this person, this president, I hated him so bad. And all of a sudden one day I stopped and I was like, oh my gosh. Look how I feel right now. I hated this guy, but I'm realizing now, I don't hate him. He's probably one of the best actors I've ever seen because he's making me have this visceral response to everything he's saying. And all of a sudden I was like, oh my gosh, he's not the worst character of all time. He's the best character. To make me hate him that bad is magical. Same thing when I first met Ben Settle. I joined Ben Settle's email list and I used to get the daily emails. And I remember I kept reading them and kept reading them and they would annoy me so bad, get me so frustrated. And it was probably two or three weeks into this email sequence where I was like... And I don't unsubscribe from anything ever. And I remember the emails were coming in. I read one. I was so upset that I was going to unsubscribe because I was so angry at him and his philosophies, and his thoughts and everything. I was like, oh, and I was about to unsubscribe. I stopped for a second. I was like, oh my gosh, look how I feel. Notice how he's making me feel right now? He's giving me, once again, this visceral response where I'm like angry, and upset, and frustrated. And so much so that I wanted to like, oh, and I was like, oh my gosh. I think prior to that I was like, he's the worst marketer ever. I hate this guy. He's wrong about everything. And all of a sudden I was like, oh, oh my gosh. Look how he's making me feel. He's an amazing marketer. He got me to feel this way. Never in my life I've read every email from a marketer and I'd read every email of his for months because I was so angry and so upset and so frustrated. And I was like, I bought his thing. I bought the other thing even though I hated him and frustrated by it and annoyed by him. In fact, the first time I met Ben, I told him that story. I was like, "Just so you know, like I hated you at first." I was like, 'Every email that would come, I would get so annoyed and so upset and all of a sudden I realized, oh, look at how he made me feel." To cause this kind of feeling in me shows that he's a master, not someone who's bad. And so a lot of times I want you to start noticing how you're feeling as these things are happening to you because a lot of times our brain is pushing us one way and hating this thing where it could be like the greatest thing we could have learned. And so, anyway, I wanted to share that because that's how I felt when we were going through this upsell flow. And so next time you're creating an offer and you're working on your upsells, your down sells or your, whatever your thing is, you're working on, I want you to start thinking about that, like how do I make this offer so good that I literally am sick to my stomach and frustrated and angry and like, oh, I can't do this? Like, there's no way we can give people this much value. We just can't do it. And all of a sudden you're like, that's it. We got there. We finally got to a point where I don't want to do this because I feel like the value is so high. Like they always say in any good offer, but any kind of good business deal or business partnership, both people should feel like they got the better end of the stick. Right? And if not, it means that someone felt like they got a worse end and that's not good. You want both people to feel like they got a better end of the stick. So if I make an offer so good, I'm like, this is insane. I can't do this because it's such a good offer, and honestly feeling that way deep in your gut. And then the customer coming in like, "Oh my gosh. They only want $97 for that?" Or $200, whatever the price is like, oh my gosh. Now both sides feel like they got the better end of the stick. That's how to make irresistible offers. That's how you create raving fans. That's how you create amazing offers. Anyway, I wanted to share it with you guys because it was interesting. It was fascinating. And I hope that helps you guys. Go back to your old offers. Look at the upsell flow and be like, what else could I add? What else could I add? What else could I tweak? How can we make this offer better? How can we make it better? How can I up this offer? How can I increase it even better? And keep thinking through that. And the better you make the offer, the more likely people will be to give you money. A lot of times people are like, "My upsell's not converting. What do I need to do?" I'm like, "Your offer sucks. Make a better offer." "This is the best thing I've got." Well then make something better. Like, what else can you give them? What else can you create? What else can you invent? What else can you put together? You need to make something that is so irresistible that they look at it, they're like, "I have to give them money. I need this thing. This is such a good deal. It's such a good offer. I have to give them money." That's the feeling they have to have or else you missed it. So anyway, with that said, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Hopefully you guys go back and look at all of your old funnels, all your old offers. Look at things you're doing and figure out what else can I bundle? What else can I add to make the software even more irresistible? And keep doing it until you feel sick to your stomach. And that's when you're probably to the spot where your offer's finally going to start converting. Okay, I hope that helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, for subscribing, for hanging out. If you liked this podcast, please do go to iTunes and leave me a review. That'd be pretty sweet. And with that said, I'll see you guys on the next episode. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is when you’ll know your offer will actually start converting.

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---Transcript---

What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I am at Lake Powell. If you've been listening to some of these past episodes you know that I'm on family vacation right now. I'm unplugged, and so I am stuck to my thoughts, which has been really fun, and just thinking through a lot of things, and hopefully... In the past, people told me that Lake Powell episodes are some of the best ones. Hopefully this gives you some ideas, some ahas, some insights in you, your life, your business, and a bunch of other really cool things.

Okay. So what I want to talk you guys about today is actually something that happened right before we left for Lake Powell. So obviously I've been playing this marketing game for a long, long, long, long time. Right? I love building funnels. I love creating offers. I've been doing it for as long as anyone I know. I've been doing it... I think I'm on, like, my 20th year or so. I've been playing this game. I love it and I think I'm pretty good at it. I'm not the best at all areas of it, but I think as a whole, I'd say I'm in the top 1% of people who play this game and I enjoy it. Hopefully you enjoy it as well. And I enjoy talking about it, hopefully as you enjoy listening to me talk about it.

But I had little things that happened right before I left that was really, really cool. So we brought in a couple of new people on our team, some really, really good copywriters, conversion analytics people. And we're looking at some of our old funnels that have done well traditionally. In fact, specifically looking at our book funnels. We have three really good book funnels, my Dotcom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic secrets books, which have a lot of traffic to those funnels. Traditionally have done really, really well. And the question was, could we make these better? And one of the reasons why we had to do it is be one of our offers, upsell number two, we had to change out because it was a partnership with someone and we had to change it out. And so it got us kind of thinking like, well, how do we change this?

And as long as we're changing it, let's brainstorm again. And so it was nice because I had a whole bunch of people who weren't me, who weren't there initially when we brainstormed the book funnel and we sat down and said, "Okay, let's kind of talk about this. What can we do? What does it look like?" And specifically there's someone new on our team. Her name is Sabah and she's awesome. And that's all I'm going to tell you because I don't want you guys hiring her away from me. She's really, really cool. But she went through all of the offers and the upsells and everything, and I made kind of a pallet. Here's like all the stuff we have. We have basically unlimited... I've created a billion products. I'm like, "We have unlimited content. We do whatever we want. Well, what should we create?" And so I kind of gave her the pallet.

She spent a couple of days and came back. We started looking at this upsell flow and it was really cool for a couple of reasons. One is it's interesting, things that you kind of forget. Like at my events, when we teach upsell flows, I always talk about the importance of the strategic flow of your upsell flow, right? That people always ask me, "What's the first price point? What's the second price point?" And price point is not the important thing. It's the flow. Like if someone buys this, say they bu the Dotcom Secrets book. So it solved the problem for them. Now they have this book that's going to show them how to funnel.

So next upsell has to solve a new problem. So that by buying this first product, what is the new problem it created, right? So if you bought Dotcom Secrets book, for example, now you know how to make funnels, but now you're like, "I don't know how to get traffic to my funnels," or, "I don't know how to write, copy for my funnels." Or whatever the next problem is. Or, "I know how to build a funnel now, but I need help. I need someone to hold my hand. I want coaching. I want accountability. I want..." Whatever. There's a million things it could be, but it's very strategic.

And what I realized, interestingly enough, is that, and I wonder if you guys do this too, or if it's just me, but sometimes my ego gets in the way. And so my book funnels were, I literally built the book funnels because I wanted my first upsell to be Dotcom Secrets or the secrets chosen, my box set of all my books. Which is cool because it's like now everyone has a chance to buy my books. And I forced that as the upsell on all three of my funnels, but looking at the actual data and numbers, they didn't... I mean, they convert good, but not amazing. I didn't change it because I was like, "Well, that's what I want to sell, that's what I want to sell," as opposed to me asking the question, "Well, what do people actually want to buy?"

And so what was cool was when Saba came back and said, "Okay, let's look at all these different offers." She kind of restructured things. And she took like my book offer where right now, you buy the books and you get this one book for free. And it's really, really cool. She's like, 'What if we did that, plus we gave them this?" I think it was One Funnel Away Challenge. "Plus we gave them this software over here, and plus we give them...". It was like five or six things. And I remember like, as she's going through, I was like kind of sick to my stomach, like, ugh. But I didn't say anything, because I'm trying to be cool, you know? And I don't want to... I hate when you're brainstorming, someone comes in and has all the negative things to say about it.

So I felt this like sick feeling in my stomach where, I was like, oh, okay. And then she talked about upsell number two and then proposed upsell number three. And upsell number two was like, we can give them this, and this, and this. I'm like, "You can't do that because this one's like a thousand dollars, and this one's this over here." And I was kind of freaking out.

And the next upsell, she's going through it, and in my head, I'm just stressing out because I'm like, "We can't sell these things for that cheap. This is insanity." I'm just like this feeling of just like uneasiness because of this. And then we sat there, we were talking about it and we're looking at, and I was drawing it out on a whiteboard trying to map it out in my head so I could come to grips with this whole thing. And all of a sudden, I stopped for a moment, and I was like, "Oh my gosh. Look at this internal anxiety I have going through this process."

And I started thinking about that. And I was like, oh my gosh. I am struggling because this offer is so good that I don't want to do it. Now what do you think about an offer that's so good that you feel sick to your stomach actually giving it somebody because it's such a good deal? That's probably the right offer, right, if you're trying to make an irresistible, one-time offer. You're like, "I sell of this course for $97. I'll sell it to you for 97 bucks." That's an offer, but it's not an irresistible, insane offer. When you are sick to your stomach because you're like, there's no way we can do this. I can't give people this and this and all these things for this price because it's not worth it to me. You're sick to your stomach? That's when you're close. That's when you probably have the right offer.

And for me it was this big aha of just like, oh my gosh, I've been stingy. I've been trying to feed my ego and trying to make sure that the offers are the things that I want to sell, not what people actually want. And then looking at it from, okay, I'm not just making an offer, I got to make something irresistible. If I want to go from like a 15, 20% conversion rate on an upsell rate to a 40, 50%, it has to be irresistible. We're in the process right now of purchasing a company. I can't talk about it yet. As soon as we finalize it... In fact, the deal might be finalized when I get back from Lake Powell. So I'm sure you will hear me shouting it from the roofs.

But the funnel, we're literally buying this thing because the funnels are so good. Like when someone buys a product through the funnel, the average cart value is like $180, which means, I can spend $180 to sell this front end product, which is crazy. It's so good. But you look at the upsell flow and it's the same thing. It's the most insane, irresistible offer where you... I'm sure when the person we're buying the company from was first putting it together, he was sick to his stomach, like, "Oh, I could easily sell this for a thousand bucks or $2000 or more." And he's like, "I'm just going to do it for $97." Like, wait, wait, what? You can't do that. This is insane. "I'm sick to my stomach. We spent $50,000 creating this thing. I can't sell it you for $97." And when you get that internal dialogue in your head where you're fighting it because this doesn't make any logical sense, that's when you probably have an actual irresistible offer. That's the key.

And that was my big humbling this weekend, or this week before I came out to Lake Powell, was that. And I've been thinking a lot about it, like sitting on the boat. As I'm sitting here I'm thinking like, "Man, I felt so much anxiety and frustration." Is kind of like how many of you guys have ever seen the greatest show of all time, 24? If not, you should pause this right now, go watch all the eight or nine seasons of it and then come back and finish the episode. Otherwise you're going to... It's more important than anything else you could be doing right now is watching every episode of 24. But I digress.

So there's this bad guy in 24 and he's the president. President Logan? I can't remember exactly. It's been a while since I've watched it, but he's the president. And I remember that at first I thought that the guy who played the president, I was like, I hate this character. I hate him. And every single episode, it got worse. I was like, I hate him. I remember being so angry, upset watching, episode, after episode, after episode. This president was such a horrible person and so angry. And I was like, I hate him. Why did they pick him to be the actor? Why these things? And being so frustrated and angry and I couldn't sleep. And I was so angry at this person, this president, I hated him so bad.

And all of a sudden one day I stopped and I was like, oh my gosh. Look how I feel right now. I hated this guy, but I'm realizing now, I don't hate him. He's probably one of the best actors I've ever seen because he's making me have this visceral response to everything he's saying. And all of a sudden I was like, oh my gosh, he's not the worst character of all time. He's the best character. To make me hate him that bad is magical.

Same thing when I first met Ben Settle. I joined Ben Settle's email list and I used to get the daily emails. And I remember I kept reading them and kept reading them and they would annoy me so bad, get me so frustrated. And it was probably two or three weeks into this email sequence where I was like... And I don't unsubscribe from anything ever. And I remember the emails were coming in. I read one. I was so upset that I was going to unsubscribe because I was so angry at him and his philosophies, and his thoughts and everything. I was like, oh, and I was about to unsubscribe. I stopped for a second. I was like, oh my gosh, look how I feel. Notice how he's making me feel right now? He's giving me, once again, this visceral response where I'm like angry, and upset, and frustrated. And so much so that I wanted to like, oh, and I was like, oh my gosh.

I think prior to that I was like, he's the worst marketer ever. I hate this guy. He's wrong about everything. And all of a sudden I was like, oh, oh my gosh. Look how he's making me feel. He's an amazing marketer. He got me to feel this way. Never in my life I've read every email from a marketer and I'd read every email of his for months because I was so angry and so upset and so frustrated. And I was like, I bought his thing. I bought the other thing even though I hated him and frustrated by it and annoyed by him.

In fact, the first time I met Ben, I told him that story. I was like, "Just so you know, like I hated you at first." I was like, 'Every email that would come, I would get so annoyed and so upset and all of a sudden I realized, oh, look at how he made me feel." To cause this kind of feeling in me shows that he's a master, not someone who's bad. And so a lot of times I want you to start noticing how you're feeling as these things are happening to you because a lot of times our brain is pushing us one way and hating this thing where it could be like the greatest thing we could have learned.

And so, anyway, I wanted to share that because that's how I felt when we were going through this upsell flow. And so next time you're creating an offer and you're working on your upsells, your down sells or your, whatever your thing is, you're working on, I want you to start thinking about that, like how do I make this offer so good that I literally am sick to my stomach and frustrated and angry and like, oh, I can't do this? Like, there's no way we can give people this much value. We just can't do it. And all of a sudden you're like, that's it. We got there. We finally got to a point where I don't want to do this because I feel like the value is so high.

Like they always say in any good offer, but any kind of good business deal or business partnership, both people should feel like they got the better end of the stick. Right? And if not, it means that someone felt like they got a worse end and that's not good. You want both people to feel like they got a better end of the stick. So if I make an offer so good, I'm like, this is insane. I can't do this because it's such a good offer, and honestly feeling that way deep in your gut. And then the customer coming in like, "Oh my gosh. They only want $97 for that?" Or $200, whatever the price is like, oh my gosh. Now both sides feel like they got the better end of the stick. That's how to make irresistible offers. That's how you create raving fans. That's how you create amazing offers.

Anyway, I wanted to share it with you guys because it was interesting. It was fascinating. And I hope that helps you guys. Go back to your old offers. Look at the upsell flow and be like, what else could I add? What else could I add? What else could I tweak? How can we make this offer better? How can we make it better? How can I up this offer? How can I increase it even better? And keep thinking through that. And the better you make the offer, the more likely people will be to give you money.

A lot of times people are like, "My upsell's not converting. What do I need to do?" I'm like, "Your offer sucks. Make a better offer." "This is the best thing I've got." Well then make something better. Like, what else can you give them? What else can you create? What else can you invent? What else can you put together? You need to make something that is so irresistible that they look at it, they're like, "I have to give them money. I need this thing. This is such a good deal. It's such a good offer. I have to give them money." That's the feeling they have to have or else you missed it.

So anyway, with that said, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Hopefully you guys go back and look at all of your old funnels, all your old offers. Look at things you're doing and figure out what else can I bundle? What else can I add to make the software even more irresistible? And keep doing it until you feel sick to your stomach. And that's when you're probably to the spot where your offer's finally going to start converting.

Okay, I hope that helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, for subscribing, for hanging out. If you liked this podcast, please do go to iTunes and leave me a review. That'd be pretty sweet. And with that said, I'll see you guys on the next episode. Bye everybody.

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]]> 903 no The Secret Ratio: Production Vs Consumption https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-ratio-production-vs-consumption If you’re struggling in any area of your life, it’s probably because this equation is out of balance. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. This week, I am at Lake Powell, I'm unplugged and that means I have no internet access. I've got no ability to check email or social media or anything, and all I can do is sit and think and play the water with my kids and my family. It's been really fun. But during that time, I had time to think about some things. And so I want to share with you some of my thoughts today, specifically about how much we produce and how much we consume. All right, everybody. Last year when I was at Lake Powell was the very first time I had a chance to start reading Atlas Shrugged. And to me, as you've heard me, I did a podcast with Josh Forti earlier year. There's like four or five hour-long podcast talking about Atlas Shrugged. I'm not going to get into that today, but as I was preparing for our Lake Powell trip that we do every single year with our kids, would come down here, we get a houseboat and we just have a fun time with some of our family and friends and stuff, I just kind of started craving that book again because I'd read it last time I was on this trip, and I start thinking about it. I was like, oh. I started listening to the audio book again on the drive down. And while I've been here during my free time, I'm listening to the audio book and it's been really fun to hear it a second time. It's interesting, the first time you read a book, especially a book like Atlas Shrugged, which I think it's like 15 or 1600 pages, it's a very intricate story. Ayn Rand wrote it in the 40s or 50s, and it took her, I think, 11 years to write the book. Just the John Galt speech alone took her two years to write, which is crazy. And so in a story like that, people back then... In fact, I got some photocopies of the original manuscripts. It wasn't like on a computer, it was on typewriters, like handwritten. When someone's writing something that complex and spending 11 years on it, there's a lot of things you don't catch the first time through. These storylines are so cool, and these things that are happening in conversations you missed the first time around. I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is so cool." Just been a really fun experience to go back into that book again and really enjoying it. What's interesting to me is, I don't remember where this came up and it's not specifically tied to the book, but the thought that you're reading a book and you have thoughts start popping in your head, and the thought I started thinking about it a lot was about basically our job as entrepreneurs, or people for that matter, is to make sure that we are producing more than we're consuming, right? To truly understand this, I think one of the core lessons or things you have to understand is just how money works, how people make money in this world. Money is a by-product of value, right? The more value you provide somebody or a group of people, the more money you make, right? For example, if someone is an accountant, they may make, I don't know how much accountants make, let's say a hundred grand a year, right? Just make numbers easier. They have one client and that client's paying a hundred grand a year and they're making pretty good money because they're providing value to that one client, right? But they make $100,000 a year, which depending on where you're at, that's either a lot of money or not very much money. But you take that same accountant, instead of them just being account for one client, if they say, "Man, I want to provide more value in the world," that accountant can start their own accounting company. They can, instead of one client, take on 10 or 20 or 30 clients. Maybe they need to hire some associates and hire some other accountants underneath them. Eventually they've got a business where now they're doing accounting for say a hundred people. That little accounting company might make $1 million a year. The accountant who started at might take home, four, five, $600,000 a year. He's still got the same amount of hours in the day as anybody else, but he or she figured out a way to provide more value. Instead of just doing accounting work for one person and making a hundred grand, they do it for 20 people now and they make a million. Even though they have more costs now, more risks, we've got to pay for other employees and they got to pay for these different things, because they're able to provide more value, they end up making more money. Money is a direct correlation to value. That's just a core principle that I didn't understand for a long time. It's the reason why a teacher who works in a school could be super, most talented person in the world, best teacher in the world. But if they're teaching for a classroom and they're getting paid their 50, $60,000 a year as a teacher, and they teach the kids that come through, that's all the money they're able to make because they're not finding any more value. What if that same teacher took their message and started publishing a YouTube channel and started reaching millions of people, they may go from making 50, $60,000 a year to $1 million a year teaching the same stuff, but their getting out to more people. Now instead of 100 kids a year hearing their lessons in a school, now they're getting a million people a year listening to it through a podcast or through YouTube channel, through some other means, and they're providing more value to more people, so that's how they make more money. All these things are tied together. That's one principal for everyone to understand. If you don't know, don't write it off yet. I don't make enough money. Well, how much value are you providing? You're providing to one person. Can you provide that same service to 10 people, to 20 people? The more value you provide, the more money you're going to make. The natural order of things is how it works. The thing that I was thinking about recently was just how important it is that we are providing more value. We're producing more than we're consuming. In all aspects of life. I first start thinking about it from a business standpoint where if you consume more than you produce, what happens? If you consume more than you produce, then you go into debt, and it's not good. Let's say you decided, "Oh, I make $1 million a year, I want to buy a house." But the houseboats cost $3 million. So, you go and you buy a houseboat for $3 million, you're $2 million in debt. You're consuming more than you're producing, therefore you're in trouble. If you want to have something bigger or nicer or whatever it is, you have to learn how to produce more than you consume. That's going to give you more money. In this book Atlas Shrugged, that was one of the big things it talks a lot about, was just the producers. In the book, you've read it, the society is trying to give everyone based on their needs and their wants, not so much their production. The premise of Atlas Shrugged is these producers. They need to go out, they're and producing, and eventually the producers go on strike because it's not worth it for them more because of all the government regulations and social pressures and all these things that make it where it's no longer beneficial for them to actually become producers. In the world we live in today, that's it. If you want to make money, you got to produce more. We have to create more value. If you want to save money, if you want to get nice things, you have to produce more than you can consume. That's like a universal principle. I started thinking about it, just this week since I've been sitting on the boat and eating more than I normally do. I noticed that I am consuming more than I am producing. For our bodies, what do we produce? We produce energy. We go and we work out, we run, we walk, we do things. If my production is more than my consumption, then what happens? I lose weight, right? But if I consume more than I produce, so I'm eating more calories than I'm burning, then I gain weight. As I'm watching my kids running around, it's funny because I feel like I'm active. I'm an active dad, but I watch my kids running around and they're producing so much energy and burning so much that they can eat whatever they want. They stay tiny and skinny. It's crazy because they're producing so much. As we get older, we keep consuming, we consume more and more and more, cause we've got bigger bellies and we can eat more and all these things, but we produce less. We don't exercise much. We don't run. We're not running around. When I look at my daughter, Nora, when she goes from one end of the houseboat to the other, she doesn't walk. She's sprinting the whole time. They're just producing more energy, which makes them lose more weight. Again, if you look at a weight loss or energy management, the goal, again, is to produce more than you consume. I start thinking about universal a principle that is in all aspects of life. In a relationship. I want to make sure that I am producing more value to my spouse than I'm consuming. We're in great relationship. All of us need to be focusing on that, on production, producing, producing energy for your body, producing value for the marketplace, producing happiness for your spouse, for your kids. Bad things happen when that metric gets flipped, where we start consuming more than we produce. You consume more food than energy produced, what happens? We gain a lot of weight and it gets really hard. We consume more stuff than we have money that we've produced. We've consumed more than the value we produced. What happens? We get into debt. We get upside down, we don't have any money in savings, we don't have any money to invest. because we're doing those things. In a relationship, if you are consuming more than you're producing, it's a lopsided relationship. It's not fair to anybody. This becomes a universal value, a universal thing in all aspects of our life. And the more I keep thinking about it, the more use cases I keep finding for this one thing, it's this ratio of production versus consumption. If any of you guys feel like I want to consume more, I want to eat more, cool. You should do it, but you've got to produce more energy so you can burn that way. If you want nicer stuff, you want to consume more, I want a nice house, I want a nice car, I want a nice whatever, cool, do it. That means you've got to produce enough to be able to afford it. You got to create more value, produce more value, and then it's okay. We had a conversation last night with one of the teenagers here. He asked me if I was scared when I bought my house, or something like that. We have kind of a crazy house. I said, no, because if you look at it, based on the average person buys a house and takes some 40 years to pay it off. And so while their house may cost way, way less than mine, I was able to pay my house off in two years. Maybe it's three years. Anyway, whatever it was. But it's because I was producing more. Ratio-wise, it wasn't very much. Because my, because I was producing more value, which made me more money, which now made it so that I could buy this house and it didn't seem like a lot. Just like my kids can go and they can literally sit down at dinner and eat 8,000 calories and they don't gain a stitch of weight. Where if I'm over 1800 calories in a day, I start gaining weight, because I'm only producing 1800 calories worth of energy in a day. If I'm not there, I start gaining weight really, really quickly. It all comes down to this ratio. Anyway, I know it's common sense. We know these things, but it just gave me a different way to kind of look at things because it's a universal principle in so many areas of our life. How much are we producing? How much are we consuming? If we're consuming more than we're producing, we're gaining weight, we're in debt, we're having these problems. If you're in any of these things, any area of your life where you're struggling, look at this ratio? Are you producing more than you're consuming? If so you're probably in a spot where your relationship's great or your energy and your body is great, or your bank account's great, whatever those things are. And if not, I bet you that that ratio is off and becomes a very simply now for us to look at, to diagnose and figure, okay, I want these things. I'm trying to do these things, but there's a math problem here. I am consuming more than I'm producing in this area of my life. I got to double, triple, quadruple down to produce more than I can consume when I want to, because now the ratios make sense. You can go buy a $20 million house. It doesn't matter if your productions side, if now the ratio works and it's not insane. The insanity happens the other way when you're consuming more than you're producing. There's the math problem. There's the metric. There's the thing to start thinking through. As I was thinking about it again, for myself, it just got me excited and started thinking about all the areas of my life that I'm not happy, looking specifically, this one ratio. Am I consuming more than I'm producing? If so, that's probably why I'm not happy. You probably don't have the energy. You probably don't have the money. You probably don't have the relationship because I'm consuming more than producing. There's a lens to look at the world through for all of you guys. I hope you enjoy it. It's been fun for me over the last couple days. I'm sitting here on the boat, looking at different areas of my life and realizing either I'm doing really good or really bad, and it's all coming down to this one ratio of production versus consumption. Hope you enjoy this. Thanks again, guys, I appreciate you. Hopefully you're having great summer vacations as well. Enjoy time with friends and family, and I will see you guys back here on another episode soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Secret Ratio: Production Vs Consumption full 432 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you’re struggling in any area of your life, it’s probably because this equation is out of balance. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell... If you’re struggling in any area of your life, it’s probably because this equation is out of balance. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. This week, I am at Lake Powell, I'm unplugged and that means I have no internet access. I've got no ability to check email or social media or anything, and all I can do is sit and think and play the water with my kids and my family. It's been really fun. But during that time, I had time to think about some things. And so I want to share with you some of my thoughts today, specifically about how much we produce and how much we consume. All right, everybody. Last year when I was at Lake Powell was the very first time I had a chance to start reading Atlas Shrugged. And to me, as you've heard me, I did a podcast with Josh Forti earlier year. There's like four or five hour-long podcast talking about Atlas Shrugged. I'm not going to get into that today, but as I was preparing for our Lake Powell trip that we do every single year with our kids, would come down here, we get a houseboat and we just have a fun time with some of our family and friends and stuff, I just kind of started craving that book again because I'd read it last time I was on this trip, and I start thinking about it. I was like, oh. I started listening to the audio book again on the drive down. And while I've been here during my free time, I'm listening to the audio book and it's been really fun to hear it a second time. It's interesting, the first time you read a book, especially a book like Atlas Shrugged, which I think it's like 15 or 1600 pages, it's a very intricate story. Ayn Rand wrote it in the 40s or 50s, and it took her, I think, 11 years to write the book. Just the John Galt speech alone took her two years to write, which is crazy. And so in a story like that, people back then... In fact, I got some photocopies of the original manuscripts. It wasn't like on a computer, it was on typewriters, like handwritten. When someone's writing something that complex and spending 11 years on it, there's a lot of things you don't catch the first time through. These storylines are so cool, and these things that are happening in conversations you missed the first time around. I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is so cool." Just been a really fun experience to go back into that book again and really enjoying it. What's interesting to me is, I don't remember where this came up and it's not specifically tied to the book, but the thought that you're reading a book and you have thoughts start popping in your head, and the thought I started thinking about it a lot was about basically our job as entrepreneurs, or people for that matter, is to make sure that we are producing more than we're consuming, right? To truly understand this, I think one of the core lessons or things you have to understand is just how money works, how people make money in this world. Money is a by-product of value, right? The more value you provide somebody or a group of people, the more money you make, right? For example, if someone is an accountant, they may make, I don't know how much accountants make, let's say a hundred grand a year, right? Just make numbers easier. They have one client and that client's paying a hundred grand a year and they're making pretty good money because they're providing value to that one client, right? But they make $100,000 a year, which depending on where you're at, that's either a lot of money or not very much money. But you take that same accountant, instead of them just being account for one client, if they say, "Man, I want to provide more value in the world," that accountant can start their own accounting company. They can, instead of one client, take on 10 or 20 or 30 clients. Maybe they need to hire some associates and hire some other accountants underneath them. Eventually they've got a business where now they're doing accounting for say a hundred people. That little accounting company might make $1 million a year. The accountant who started at might take home, four, five, $600,000 a year. He's still got the same amount of hours in the day as anybody else, but he or she figured out a way to provide more value. Instead of just doing accounting work for one person and making a hundred grand, they do it for 20 people now and they make a million. Even though they have more costs now, more risks, we've got to pay for other employees and they got to pay for these different things, because they're able to provide more value, they end up making more money. Money is a direct correlation to value. That's just a core principle that I didn't understand for a long time. It's the reason why a teacher who works in a school could be super, most talented person in the world, best teacher in the world. But if they're teaching for a classroom and they're getting paid their 50, $60,000 a year as a teacher, and they teach the kids that come through, that's all the money they're able to make because they're not finding any more value. What if that same teacher took their message and started publishing a YouTube channel and started reaching millions of people, they may go from making 50, $60,000 a year to $1 million a year teaching the same stuff, but their getting out to more people. Now instead of 100 kids a year hearing their lessons in a school, now they're getting a million people a year listening to it through a podcast or through YouTube channel, through some other means, and they're providing more value to more people, so that's how they make more money. All these things are tied together. That's one principal for everyone to understand. If you don't know, don't write it off yet. I don't make enough money. Well, how much value are you providing? You're providing to one person. Can you provide that same service to 10 people, to 20 people? The more value you provide, the more money you're going to make. The natural order of things is how it works. The thing that I was thinking about recently was just how important it is that we are providing more value. We're producing more than we're consuming. In all aspects of life. I first start thinking about it from a business standpoint where if you consume more than you produce, what happens? If you consume more than you produce, then you go into debt, and it's not good. Let's say you decided, "Oh, I make $1 million a year, I want to buy a house." But the houseboats cost $3 million. So, you go and you buy a houseboat for $3 million, you're $2 million in debt. You're consuming more than you're producing, therefore you're in trouble. If you want to have something bigger or nicer or whatever it is, you have to learn how to produce more than you consume. That's going to give you more money. In this book Atlas Shrugged, that was one of the big things it talks a lot about, was just the producers. In the book, you've read it, the society is trying to give everyone based on their needs and their wants, not so much their production. The premise of Atlas Shrugged is these producers. They need to go out, they're and producing, and eventually the producers go on strike because it's not worth it for them more because of all the government regulations and social pressures and all these things that make it where it's no longer beneficial for them to actually become producers. In the world we live in today, that's it. If you want to make money, you got to produce more. We have to create more value. If you want to save money, if you want to get nice things, you have to produce more than you can consume. That's like a universal principle. I started thinking about it, just this week since I've been sitting on the boat and eating more than I normally do. I noticed that I am consuming more than I am producing. For our bodies, what do we produce? We produce energy. We go and we work out, we run, we walk, we do things. If my production is more than my consumption, then what happens? I lose weight, right? But if I consume more than I produce, so I'm eating more calories than I'm burning, then I gain weight. As I'm watching my kids running around, it's funny because I feel like I'm active. I'm an active dad, but I watch my kids running around and they're producing so much energy and burning so much that they can eat whatever they want. They stay tiny and skinny. It's crazy because they're producing so much. As we get older, we keep consuming, we consume more and more and more, cause we've got bigger bellies and we can eat more and all these things, but we produce less. We don't exercise much. We don't run. We're not running around. When I look at my daughter, Nora, when she goes from one end of the houseboat to the other, she doesn't walk. She's sprinting the whole time. They're just producing more energy, which makes them lose more weight. Again, if you look at a weight loss or energy management, the goal, again, is to produce more than you consume. I start thinking about universal a principle that is in all aspects of life. In a relationship. I want to make sure that I am producing more value to my spouse than I'm consuming. We're in great relationship. All of us need to be focusing on that, on production, producing, producing energy for your body, producing value for the marketplace, producing happiness for your spouse, for your kids. Bad things happen when that metric gets flipped, where we start consuming more than we produce. You consume more food than energy produced, what happens? We gain a lot of weight and it gets really hard. We consume more stuff than we have money that we've produced. We've consumed more than the value we produced. What happens? We get into debt. We get upside down, we don't have any money in savings, we don't have any money to invest. because we're doing those things. In a relationship, if you are consuming more than you're producing, it's a lopsided relationship. It's not fair to anybody. This becomes a universal value, a universal thing in all aspects of our life. And the more I keep thinking about it, the more use cases I keep finding for this one thing, it's this ratio of production versus consumption. If any of you guys feel like I want to consume more, I want to eat more, cool. You should do it, but you've got to produce more energy so you can burn that way. If you want nicer stuff, you want to consume more, I want a nice house, I want a nice car, I want a nice whatever, cool, do it. That means you've got to produce enough to be able to afford it. You got to create more value, produce more value, and then it's okay. We had a conversation last night with one of the teenagers here. He asked me if I was scared when I bought my house, or something like that. We have kind of a crazy house. I said, no, because if you look at it, based on the average person buys a house and takes some 40 years to pay it off. And so while their house may cost way, way less than mine, I was able to pay my house off in two years. Maybe it's three years. Anyway, whatever it was. But it's because I was producing more. Ratio-wise, it wasn't very much. Because my, because I was producing more value, which made me more money, which now made it so that I could buy this house and it didn't seem like a lot. Just like my kids can go and they can literally sit down at dinner and eat 8,000 calories and they don't gain a stitch of weight. Where if I'm over 1800 calories in a day, I start gaining weight, because I'm only producing 1800 calories worth of energy in a day. If I'm not there, I start gaining weight really, really quickly. It all comes down to this ratio. Anyway, I know it's common sense. We know these things, but it just gave me a different way to kind of look at things because it's a universal principle in so many areas of our life. How much are we producing? How much are we consuming? If we're consuming more than we're producing, we're gaining weight, we're in debt, we're having these problems. If you're in any of these things, any area of your life where you're struggling, look at this ratio? Are you producing more than you're consuming? If so you're probably in a spot where your relationship's great or your energy and your body is great, or your bank account's great, whatever those things are. And if not, I bet you that that ratio is off and becomes a very simply now for us to look at, to diagnose and figure, okay, I want these things. I'm trying to do these things, but there's a math problem here. I am consuming more than I'm producing in this area of my life. I got to double, triple, quadruple down to produce more than I can consume when I want to, because now the ratios make sense. You can go buy a $20 million house. It doesn't matter if your productions side, if now the ratio works and it's not insane. The insanity happens the other way when you're consuming more than you're producing. There's the math problem. There's the metric. There's the thing to start thinking through. As I was thinking about it again, for myself, it just got me excited and started thinking about all the areas of my life that I'm not happy, looking specifically, this one ratio. Am I consuming more than I'm producing? If so, that's probably why I'm not happy. You probably don't have the energy. You probably don't have the money. You probably don't have the relationship because I'm consuming more than producing. There's a lens to look at the world through for all of you guys. I hope you enjoy it. It's been fun for me over the last couple days. I'm sitting here on the boat, looking at different areas of my life and realizing either I'm doing really good or really bad, and it's all coming down to this one ratio of production versus consumption. Hope you enjoy this. Thanks again, guys, I appreciate you. Hopefully you're having great summer vacations as well. Enjoy time with friends and family, and I will see you guys back here on another episode soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you’re struggling in any area of your life, it’s probably because this equation is out of balance.

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Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. This week, I am at Lake Powell, I'm unplugged and that means I have no internet access. I've got no ability to check email or social media or anything, and all I can do is sit and think and play the water with my kids and my family. It's been really fun. But during that time, I had time to think about some things. And so I want to share with you some of my thoughts today, specifically about how much we produce and how much we consume.

All right, everybody. Last year when I was at Lake Powell was the very first time I had a chance to start reading Atlas Shrugged. And to me, as you've heard me, I did a podcast with Josh Forti earlier year. There's like four or five hour-long podcast talking about Atlas Shrugged. I'm not going to get into that today, but as I was preparing for our Lake Powell trip that we do every single year with our kids, would come down here, we get a houseboat and we just have a fun time with some of our family and friends and stuff, I just kind of started craving that book again because I'd read it last time I was on this trip, and I start thinking about it. I was like, oh. I started listening to the audio book again on the drive down. And while I've been here during my free time, I'm listening to the audio book and it's been really fun to hear it a second time. It's interesting, the first time you read a book, especially a book like Atlas Shrugged, which I think it's like 15 or 1600 pages, it's a very intricate story. Ayn Rand wrote it in the 40s or 50s, and it took her, I think, 11 years to write the book. Just the John Galt speech alone took her two years to write, which is crazy.

And so in a story like that, people back then... In fact, I got some photocopies of the original manuscripts. It wasn't like on a computer, it was on typewriters, like handwritten. When someone's writing something that complex and spending 11 years on it, there's a lot of things you don't catch the first time through. These storylines are so cool, and these things that are happening in conversations you missed the first time around. I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is so cool." Just been a really fun experience to go back into that book again and really enjoying it. What's interesting to me is, I don't remember where this came up and it's not specifically tied to the book, but the thought that you're reading a book and you have thoughts start popping in your head, and the thought I started thinking about it a lot was about basically our job as entrepreneurs, or people for that matter, is to make sure that we are producing more than we're consuming, right?

To truly understand this, I think one of the core lessons or things you have to understand is just how money works, how people make money in this world. Money is a by-product of value, right? The more value you provide somebody or a group of people, the more money you make, right? For example, if someone is an accountant, they may make, I don't know how much accountants make, let's say a hundred grand a year, right? Just make numbers easier. They have one client and that client's paying a hundred grand a year and they're making pretty good money because they're providing value to that one client, right? But they make $100,000 a year, which depending on where you're at, that's either a lot of money or not very much money. But you take that same accountant, instead of them just being account for one client, if they say, "Man, I want to provide more value in the world," that accountant can start their own accounting company. They can, instead of one client, take on 10 or 20 or 30 clients. Maybe they need to hire some associates and hire some other accountants underneath them.

Eventually they've got a business where now they're doing accounting for say a hundred people. That little accounting company might make $1 million a year. The accountant who started at might take home, four, five, $600,000 a year. He's still got the same amount of hours in the day as anybody else, but he or she figured out a way to provide more value. Instead of just doing accounting work for one person and making a hundred grand, they do it for 20 people now and they make a million. Even though they have more costs now, more risks, we've got to pay for other employees and they got to pay for these different things, because they're able to provide more value, they end up making more money. Money is a direct correlation to value. That's just a core principle that I didn't understand for a long time.

It's the reason why a teacher who works in a school could be super, most talented person in the world, best teacher in the world. But if they're teaching for a classroom and they're getting paid their 50, $60,000 a year as a teacher, and they teach the kids that come through, that's all the money they're able to make because they're not finding any more value. What if that same teacher took their message and started publishing a YouTube channel and started reaching millions of people, they may go from making 50, $60,000 a year to $1 million a year teaching the same stuff, but their getting out to more people. Now instead of 100 kids a year hearing their lessons in a school, now they're getting a million people a year listening to it through a podcast or through YouTube channel, through some other means, and they're providing more value to more people, so that's how they make more money.

All these things are tied together. That's one principal for everyone to understand. If you don't know, don't write it off yet. I don't make enough money. Well, how much value are you providing? You're providing to one person. Can you provide that same service to 10 people, to 20 people? The more value you provide, the more money you're going to make. The natural order of things is how it works. The thing that I was thinking about recently was just how important it is that we are providing more value. We're producing more than we're consuming. In all aspects of life.

I first start thinking about it from a business standpoint where if you consume more than you produce, what happens? If you consume more than you produce, then you go into debt, and it's not good. Let's say you decided, "Oh, I make $1 million a year, I want to buy a house." But the houseboats cost $3 million. So, you go and you buy a houseboat for $3 million, you're $2 million in debt. You're consuming more than you're producing, therefore you're in trouble. If you want to have something bigger or nicer or whatever it is, you have to learn how to produce more than you consume. That's going to give you more money.

In this book Atlas Shrugged, that was one of the big things it talks a lot about, was just the producers. In the book, you've read it, the society is trying to give everyone based on their needs and their wants, not so much their production. The premise of Atlas Shrugged is these producers. They need to go out, they're and producing, and eventually the producers go on strike because it's not worth it for them more because of all the government regulations and social pressures and all these things that make it where it's no longer beneficial for them to actually become producers. In the world we live in today, that's it. If you want to make money, you got to produce more. We have to create more value.

If you want to save money, if you want to get nice things, you have to produce more than you can consume. That's like a universal principle. I started thinking about it, just this week since I've been sitting on the boat and eating more than I normally do. I noticed that I am consuming more than I am producing. For our bodies, what do we produce? We produce energy. We go and we work out, we run, we walk, we do things. If my production is more than my consumption, then what happens? I lose weight, right? But if I consume more than I produce, so I'm eating more calories than I'm burning, then I gain weight.

As I'm watching my kids running around, it's funny because I feel like I'm active. I'm an active dad, but I watch my kids running around and they're producing so much energy and burning so much that they can eat whatever they want. They stay tiny and skinny. It's crazy because they're producing so much. As we get older, we keep consuming, we consume more and more and more, cause we've got bigger bellies and we can eat more and all these things, but we produce less. We don't exercise much. We don't run. We're not running around. When I look at my daughter, Nora, when she goes from one end of the houseboat to the other, she doesn't walk. She's sprinting the whole time. They're just producing more energy, which makes them lose more weight. Again, if you look at a weight loss or energy management, the goal, again, is to produce more than you consume. I start thinking about universal a principle that is in all aspects of life.

In a relationship. I want to make sure that I am producing more value to my spouse than I'm consuming. We're in great relationship. All of us need to be focusing on that, on production, producing, producing energy for your body, producing value for the marketplace, producing happiness for your spouse, for your kids. Bad things happen when that metric gets flipped, where we start consuming more than we produce. You consume more food than energy produced, what happens? We gain a lot of weight and it gets really hard. We consume more stuff than we have money that we've produced. We've consumed more than the value we produced. What happens? We get into debt. We get upside down, we don't have any money in savings, we don't have any money to invest. because we're doing those things.

In a relationship, if you are consuming more than you're producing, it's a lopsided relationship. It's not fair to anybody. This becomes a universal value, a universal thing in all aspects of our life. And the more I keep thinking about it, the more use cases I keep finding for this one thing, it's this ratio of production versus consumption. If any of you guys feel like I want to consume more, I want to eat more, cool. You should do it, but you've got to produce more energy so you can burn that way. If you want nicer stuff, you want to consume more, I want a nice house, I want a nice car, I want a nice whatever, cool, do it. That means you've got to produce enough to be able to afford it. You got to create more value, produce more value, and then it's okay.

We had a conversation last night with one of the teenagers here. He asked me if I was scared when I bought my house, or something like that. We have kind of a crazy house. I said, no, because if you look at it, based on the average person buys a house and takes some 40 years to pay it off. And so while their house may cost way, way less than mine, I was able to pay my house off in two years. Maybe it's three years. Anyway, whatever it was. But it's because I was producing more. Ratio-wise, it wasn't very much. Because my, because I was producing more value, which made me more money, which now made it so that I could buy this house and it didn't seem like a lot.

Just like my kids can go and they can literally sit down at dinner and eat 8,000 calories and they don't gain a stitch of weight. Where if I'm over 1800 calories in a day, I start gaining weight, because I'm only producing 1800 calories worth of energy in a day. If I'm not there, I start gaining weight really, really quickly. It all comes down to this ratio. Anyway, I know it's common sense. We know these things, but it just gave me a different way to kind of look at things because it's a universal principle in so many areas of our life. How much are we producing? How much are we consuming? If we're consuming more than we're producing, we're gaining weight, we're in debt, we're having these problems.

If you're in any of these things, any area of your life where you're struggling, look at this ratio? Are you producing more than you're consuming? If so you're probably in a spot where your relationship's great or your energy and your body is great, or your bank account's great, whatever those things are. And if not, I bet you that that ratio is off and becomes a very simply now for us to look at, to diagnose and figure, okay, I want these things. I'm trying to do these things, but there's a math problem here. I am consuming more than I'm producing in this area of my life. I got to double, triple, quadruple down to produce more than I can consume when I want to, because now the ratios make sense. You can go buy a $20 million house. It doesn't matter if your productions side, if now the ratio works and it's not insane.

The insanity happens the other way when you're consuming more than you're producing. There's the math problem. There's the metric. There's the thing to start thinking through. As I was thinking about it again, for myself, it just got me excited and started thinking about all the areas of my life that I'm not happy, looking specifically, this one ratio. Am I consuming more than I'm producing? If so, that's probably why I'm not happy. You probably don't have the energy. You probably don't have the money. You probably don't have the relationship because I'm consuming more than producing. There's a lens to look at the world through for all of you guys. I hope you enjoy it. It's been fun for me over the last couple days. I'm sitting here on the boat, looking at different areas of my life and realizing either I'm doing really good or really bad, and it's all coming down to this one ratio of production versus consumption. Hope you enjoy this. Thanks again, guys, I appreciate you. Hopefully you're having great summer vacations as well. Enjoy time with friends and family, and I will see you guys back here on another episode soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 888 no Outsourcing Done Different https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/outsourcing-done-different How to take six weeks off without stressing even a little bit. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Right now, I'm at Lake Powell. I've been on the boat, the houseboat and jet-skis, and we did a waterboard, it's a type of Flyboard where you literally feel like Ironman flying through the sky. We just got done wake surfing, our kids have been wake surfing. It's been an insane week and I'm here with my friend, John Jonas. I'll introduce you guys here in a second. And for me, it was a lot to take a week off. I had no cell phone access for a week and John hasn't worked in eight years, 12 years. Just kidding, he's basically taking six weeks off. He is the person in my life who somehow has figured out a systemized entire life. So he can just do whatever he wants whenever he wants. And so that's what we're talking about today is systemizing outsourcing and whole bunch of other stuff when we come back from the theme song. All right, so I'm back here. We're on top of the houseboat and I'm talking to John Jonas. Some of you guys know John, if not, he is the founder of onlinejobs.ph, which... Actually, do you want to tell them what it is and tell them about you? John Jonas: Yeah, thanks man. So when I was early on in my business, I just realized I needed help and finding help sucked. It was so hard. And everybody talked about outsourcing, outsourcing, outsourcing, and I tried India and it sucked. It did. Russell: The entire country. John: Well and then it's like, dude, I have nothing against the country. But outsourcing there was really hard and there's some really big cultural reasons why, and I won't get into it, whatever. And then you have Upwork, which was Elance and oDesk at the time, which is fine, except the whole system is based around 100% turnover. And as a small business owner, 100% turnover guaranteed in your business, that sucks, hiring a contract worker, that's so stinking hard. So one day I'm talking to John Brizzy, the owner of backcountry.com. And he says to me, "When you're ready to start outsourcing some of this stuff, make sure you go to the Philippines with it." And I was like, "Huh, really?" And he gave me some reasons why, and more than just like, "Oh, this is amazing," it gave me hope that maybe I'd find something different than what I had experienced before, because that was really the thing was there's so much loss of hope in outsourcing because it's just a babysitting job and people that you're outsourcing to suck and they can only do menial tasks. And so I hired this guy in the Philippines full-time, which he gave me a reference to hire someone full-time and I didn't know if I could do it. It took me two months to hire someone because I didn't know if I could keep someone busy full-time I didn't know if I could pay them I didn't know if they could do good work. It was the most liberating experience in my life. This dude's full-time job was doing anything I asked him to do. And yeah, dude, that was amazing. I taught him how to systematize this whole system that I had completely failed with on Upwork. It was Elance at the time, but I hired this guy to write articles and he wrote these articles and sent them back to me. And I was like, "Yes, I got these articles done," this was on Elance. And then I realized, "Oh, now the burden falls on me to do the rest of the work." And that's where most stuff breaks down is when it falls on you to do the rest of the work. So when I had this guy in the Philippines, I realized, "Oh no, he can write the article and then he just worked full-time for me. So I can teach him to do the posting and the headers and the resource boxes and the links and I can teach them how SEO works and he can do all the SEO." And this was like 2005. So since then, I've realized oh yeah, you can hire amazing people, programmers, designers, social media people, content writers, data entry people, lead generators, whatever it is, copywriters, you can hire a really good people. And in the Philippines, I was paying the company, this is 2005, I was paying them $750 a month they're paying him $250 a month for full-time work. So today that same person's probably going to be like $450 a month straight from you to them because of what online jobs is. Russell: Because you guys created a platform. Because prior to, so the first time I hired someone from the Philippines, there was a company I hired and they... I can't remember name of it. Agents of Value, yes. Agents of Value, yes. And I was so excited because it was like 700 bucks you get a full-time employee, which I was paying American wages prior to everyone and I was freaking out. And then yeah, like you said, you find that they're only making $250, $300. And so what John built is a really cool, I wouldn't call it a directory, it's more than that, but it's a place you go, you sign up for it, and then there's how many Filipinos are listed there right now? John: There's over a million Filipino profiles there. Yeah, so what I created was what I wanted for myself. So after a couple of years of hiring people through this agency, I went to them and they said, "Well do you want a programmer or a webmaster?" I was like, "I want a content writer." "Well do you want a programmer or a webmaster," was their response. And agencies, generally, this is how they are. They're going to three times mark up the salary and then they're going to give you the same person. They're going to go to online jobs today and try and find the person... They do, I know they do. So I created what I wanted, which was I just want to recruit some people on my own and I want to hire them and I want to pay them directly and there's no markup, so there's no salary markup. And there's no middleman telling me who I need to hire, giving me someone crappy who doesn't know anything, which is what Agents of Value did multiple times. And so now I can go and find someone, find the exact person I want. And it's crazy. I hired a programmer who was working for IBM and he's so dang good. Or I found a copywriter, actually, I hired a copywriter who wrote some ClickFunnels emails. And it's amazing what you can find on onlinejobs.ph. And the crazy thing about the Philippines, I had no idea at the time. This is why this guy's advice was so dang good. And he obviously knew, and I had no idea. So in the Philippines, there's a culture of honesty and loyalty and hard work and make people happy. So my guys in the Philippines have my credit cards, they have access to my email account, they have access to my servers. We've seen hundreds of thousands of people hire people in the Philippines and have seen very, very few people get ripped off. And almost every time when they do, it's because they tried to get the person to do some work and then not pay the person. And obviously, yeah, they're going to try and get paid. And then there's the loyalty thing. So the Philippines, their culture is loyal almost to a fault. So when you hire them, they'll never stop working for you as long as you gain their trust. So the first person I hired in 2005 still works for me today. Yeah, and he's amazing. He can do anything. When I hired him, he knew nothing. Today, he can do anything I want. So the culture makes such a difference of the Philippines versus elsewhere, especially for a small business owner. Russell: All right, so I want to tell a story and I'm not embarrassed, maybe a little bit. So you and I had a chance to go to Australia to speak at Mal Emery's event. Do you remember what year that was? John: 2012. Russell: Dang. So 2012. And for those of you who know me and know I wrote a book about the perfect webinar as my things I'm really good at closing people and selling from the stage and all that kind of stuff. So John and I fly down to Australia, we both speak on stage and you destroyed me. It was really embarrassing. I only sold a handful and John sold everybody in the room literally bought his... It was insane. But I'm telling you this because there was a story you told in there that I'm going to mess with the details, but I want you to share the story with people. Number one, they'll get to know you a little better. But number two, it's also I think a lot of you guys have probably heard me or other people talk about outsourcing and you're like, "Oh yeah," and maybe you hire someone here or there, but for you, there was something in your life that happened that made forced you to do it and then that ended up giving you the freedom that literally we've been here this week, everyone's stressing out. No one's got cell phone access and John's just having the best time ever. And you have six weeks in a row vacation time. What week are we on right now? John: Four. Week five. Russell: Week five of six and I'm like one weekend. I'm like, "Well, I'm good." So anyway, I want you to hear this story because it's powerful, but also I think I'm hoping you guys hear and realize that you don't have to wait for something tragic or scary like this to happen. But if you kind of try to force it in your mind, you can have something like this happen and give yourself freedom earlier. So with that said, here's John. John: So I've worked about 17 hours a week for the last 13, 14 years. And here's what happened. So my wife is seven months pregnant with our third child. This is 2007. We went to the doctor, he's run some tests and he says to my wife, "You have preeclampsia. And if you don't go on strict bed rest for the next three to five weeks, you're going to have a seizure and you're going to lose this baby." And to me, obviously, I was there with her and it was a shock. And on my way home from the doctor's office, I was just thinking, "I'm working full time and I have to two other kids and she has to be on strict bed rest. I'm not about to lose a baby over money." So I was thinking, "What am I going to do?" So when I get home, I sent an email to two of my guys in the Philippines. I had two guys in the Philippines at the time and I sent an email to them. And I just want you to know, as I tell you this, they had been with me for about 18 months. These were not guy. I pulled off the street. You're not going to hire someone new and this is going to work for you. It's going to take some time. But I told them, "Hey guys, here's my situation. I can't work. Here's why. I need you to take over everything I'm currently doing in my business." And so I... Everything, everything. For the next three weeks, I literally worked one hour. And that one hour... So after that day, when I got home, I sent them all the instructions I could, that one hour was just responding to their questions. And they took over my Google AdWords account and they took over my blog and they took over the marketing that I was doing. They took over the SEO that I was doing. They took over customer service. They took over everything I was currently doing. Three weeks later, my wife has the baby, this beautiful little girl Bailey, who just turned 14. And for the next two months, my wife struggled with postpartum depression. And so I just kept not working. It was a little bit more, it was one hour a week because she was allowed to get out of bed now. And so I spent three months not working basically. And it's expected to have a disaster with my business and came back to find my business had grown. And I'm not going to tell you it's because these guys were running the business. That's not the case. But the point here is that I had had the right help and my business didn't crash when I wasn't there. So from there, this is where you'll really recognize I hope what the possibilities of outsourcing are. So after these three months, I was like, "Well there's only so many times in a day you can take your kids to the golf course," and you get bored. Because that's what I was doing. I was taking my kids to the golf course twice a day. And so I started designing a business based around how far can I take this outsourcing thing? Because I had only had these guys doing menial tasks up to that point. And now I realized like, "Whoa, they're way better than I thought they were. And so can I build a business based around them doing all the work and me just being the CEO?" So I started designing this business. I'll tell you what it was. We were going to write reviews about products and post them on our website and then drive traffic to them and put affiliate links on all the reviews. So I record myself talking for 45 minutes explaining this whole thing. And I bought a domain and I sent the domain and my recording to this guy in Philippines. And again, he had been working for me for a while and he takes the domain, sets it up on my hosting account, sets up WordPress and changes the theme according as I've described and sends it back to me a couple days later and it was horrible. And I was like, "Oh crap." So I went back and described it better and better again. And we did this for about a week until we got it right. He got the website how I wanted it. It was amazing. So then he wrote the first review and it was terrible. And I was like, "Oh yeah, this outsourcing thing isn't as good as I thought it was." Russell: You're like, "No, I'll take it all to myself." For me, that's what I've been using. Like, "Well I'm done. I'm just going to myself." I give up usually at that point. John: That's not what I did. And because that's not my personality. I want to see if I can make this thing work really. So I worked with him through the review. I was like, "Okay, we've got to change this and this and this. And we've got to get more data from here. And we've got to do this." So we worked for a couple of weeks, got the review right. And I never wrote another review. So he had already done some SEO, but I start teaching him more SEO and he starts doing SEO and he starts doing some social marketing, even though social media wasn't really a thing. But we started doing Craigslist stuff. And we started doing RSS feeds and we started doing everything that I knew to do at the time, I did. Everything I knew to implement, I did. Which today all the things you know to implement would be build your funnel and start your Dream 100 and run Facebook ads to it and start doing some SEO maybe and get on a podcast or start a podcast. All these things that you know you should be doing I was doing, except I wasn't the one doing them. So that business in the first month made me about $200. Within three months, it was making three to $500 a month. Within six months, it was making a thousand dollars a month, within a year is making me 10 to $15,000 a month. And this dude in the Philippines, who, again, I told you they're super loyal and super honest, he built the whole thing. He joined the affiliate programs. He starts running Google AdWords on it. Because I taught him how to do it. He sends me a report every month. "Here's how much money we spent. Here's how much money we made. Here's what I think I can do to improve the business and make more money." And that was where I realized like, "Oh yeah, these aren't just dummies that can only do menial work. They can only follow exact instructions." No, he read between the lines so many times he figured out so much stuff. And I don't want you to think that he built this whole business for me and I didn't do anything. Because I did. I was the CEO. I knew what was going on. I knew what had to happen. But I never touched it. I don't touch WordPress. I don't write content now. Russell: So let me ask you, so I know that there's people listening right now who are thinking, "Well why doesn't the guy just make his own blog and then just do it himself? And then he'll make the 10 grand a month for himself and not have to just cut you out of it." And I've thought of that as well. I'm curious why specifically Filipinos, why that's not an issue for you. John: So yeah, because in India, that's the first question they ask. And that's our experience with outsourcing is, "Well what's your business model here?" I explained to him the business model. In the Philippines, they're not entrepreneurial. They don't want to steal your business. They don't want to steal your idea. They don't want to do it on their own. That's too risky for them. They are really job oriented and they want a job. They want a long-term stable job that they can take home and reliably take care of their family. And I've seen that so, so many times. I have people that have worked for me since 2005 and 2006 and 2008 and nine and 10. And they also work with me. Russell: Awesome, okay, my last question for you then is I think we had this conversation last year. So John's my Lake Powell buddy. And it's our third time renting house boat together, fourth time on the lake together. But anyway. Last year we had this conversation, I'm not sure if you remember it, but it was impactful to me because for me, those who know me, I'm a perfectionist, especially comes to my funnels and copy and design and everything's going to be reviewed by me because anyway, I'm super annoying that way. But our stuff does really well. And so I'm always thinking it has to be perfect to go live and get shipped out there and actually be a live thing. And last year was talking to you about it. And your philosophy is obviously different than mine. You were more, do you remember this conversation we had? And you were talking about how you're like 80% is it's fine. The extra 20% is... Do you remember this conversation at all? I'd love to get just your mindset on that because it's something I could use, but probably other people as well where it doesn't have to be 100% to make money. It's got to be close. John: So there are some things where it needs to be 100%. But most things, it's more important to get it done than to get it done perfectly. And so for me, my philosophy is ship, get it out there. So just before we left, we're driving down here and I checked my project management and saw that they had completed this big long piece of content that we had. And I said to them, "I'm not going to review this, but publish it because I'm sure it's good enough. You guys are good and publish it." And when I get back, maybe I'll review it. Maybe I won't, I don't know. Maybe the task will be gone and I'll never see it. But to me, just getting it out there and having people see it is more likely to tell you the problems with it than I am to tell the problems by reading it myself and to creating a bottleneck myself to let me give you 16 more things that I don't think are perfect. Even though you guys think it's perfect, there's three other people that have seen it, and I don't think so, but they do, which tells me maybe I'm wrong. I also don't have, and this is a personality thing, I don't have the design eye that you do and I don't care as much. I want people to see it and I want people read it and ship it, get alive. We ship software with bugs all the time because then it's live and then people will instantly tell you, "Oh, this is a problem." "Oh, okay. We'll fix it. Sweet." Russell: As opposed to figuring out all the problems, mistakes on your own. Oh man. Well I hope you guys enjoyed this episode, it's a little different, but I don't normally interview. I don't even know John, you're like the second person to ever be on my podcast besides me. But I think it's good for everyone to understand. So for those who are in some part of their business where they're trying to think of if they can use outsourcing more, join Online Jobs, and this is not a paid ad. I get nothing from this other than as long as online jobs keeps making money off of a boat buddy at Lake Powell, otherwise I've got to pay for this whole thing by myself. But there's no advertising, but let them know how Online Jobs works. Because it's different. It's not like Agents of Value. You're hiring and paying them and could you walk them through how it works and wants to get the count and how to set it all up and everything? John: Yeah, so Online Jobs is kind of like indeed.com, but for the Philippines. So you go on and you post a job and it's free to post a job. And then depending on your job, you'll get a few or hundreds of job applicants. And if you get hundreds of job applicants, that's a problem, you can't go through hundreds of applicants. That sucks. But you'll get a bunch of applicants. And then you can see the applications for free. You can do all that for free. You just can't contact anybody. You don't get anybody's contact information until you pay. And it's $69 for a month and then you get to contact as many people as you want, really. Or you can reply to everybody who sent you a job application, if you want. And then you just interview them, you're going to use their Disk profile. Russell talks about Disk profiles. And I think it's amazing. Almost everybody on there has a Disk profile and you're going to send them emails and ask them tons of questions. And here's a little bit of advice, don't do a Skype interview right off the bat. That's the first thing everyone wants to do is get on the phone with them. And that's the last thing you should be doing when you do interviews with people in the Philippines. They don't want to do it. So do that at last when you've narrowed it down to three. You can give a test task. You're completely on your own. Every application will come to your email inbox if you want. It's your Gmail inbox. They'll also be in your online jobs inbox, but then you interview them and you hire them and you pay them. And we don't take a cut of any of that. If you're interested in more, I have, very similar to Russell's one funnel away, I have the one VA away challenge. So I will walk you through the hiring process and I guarantee you'll find a great person if you go through my process at one VA way. It's my process of how I hire great people. I never think, "I don't know if I'm going to find someone good this time or not." I'm going to find someone good. I know I am because I've done it so many times. Russell: So onevaaway.com? John: onevaaway.com Russell: Awesome, all right. And I'm going to product this. So obviously I have click funnels that whole business and there's support and there's team and everything. But we started building some of these side businesses and some fun projects I was working on and all of them have customers coming in now and customer support and all these things. And I was like, "Aaaa!” and so I asked John, I'm like, "Hey, what would you do if you're me?" He's like, "Dude, you're an idiot. Of course go to Online Jobs." So we did, sent them to the count, we hired three new Filipinos, they're on a Slack channel with us and they have access to our help desk. Our help desk has all these little sub companies we're building and they're cross-training on all the different products and they're awesome. Every morning they check it on Skype, like, "Good morning, we're here." And then they check out at night like, "We're done," and they have questions asked in Slack, and then they're just cross-training all of our products. And so we'll just keep adding more products in there and they're supporting all of them and it's amazing. And we've got three right now. We'll probably have more as we start growing and stuff like that. And I'm getting really excited about bringing in more to do more tasks. Everybody can do funnels. You guys are training now on a lot of them are doing funnels, a lot of them are doing copywriting, a lot of them are doing a lot of other stuff too. So anyway, it's exciting. So go to onlinejobs.ph or onevaaway.com. And with that said, hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Get your mind thinking about outsourcing and the Philippines and a whole bunch of cool things like that. So in fact, one time you gave me... So I've done this four or five times. We build up huge scenes. At one time I had this guy named Mateo we hired from the Philippines and he built a team of like 30 writers for me, back when we were doing SEO really, really hard. We were cranking on it. Anyway, it's fun to do and fun to learn and to get to know some really, really cool people. So anyway, hope that helps you guys appreciate you all and we'll see you guys on the next episode. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Outsourcing Done Different full 431 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to take six weeks off without stressing even a little bit. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the... How to take six weeks off without stressing even a little bit. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Right now, I'm at Lake Powell. I've been on the boat, the houseboat and jet-skis, and we did a waterboard, it's a type of Flyboard where you literally feel like Ironman flying through the sky. We just got done wake surfing, our kids have been wake surfing. It's been an insane week and I'm here with my friend, John Jonas. I'll introduce you guys here in a second. And for me, it was a lot to take a week off. I had no cell phone access for a week and John hasn't worked in eight years, 12 years. Just kidding, he's basically taking six weeks off. He is the person in my life who somehow has figured out a systemized entire life. So he can just do whatever he wants whenever he wants. And so that's what we're talking about today is systemizing outsourcing and whole bunch of other stuff when we come back from the theme song. All right, so I'm back here. We're on top of the houseboat and I'm talking to John Jonas. Some of you guys know John, if not, he is the founder of onlinejobs.ph, which... Actually, do you want to tell them what it is and tell them about you? John Jonas: Yeah, thanks man. So when I was early on in my business, I just realized I needed help and finding help sucked. It was so hard. And everybody talked about outsourcing, outsourcing, outsourcing, and I tried India and it sucked. It did. Russell: The entire country. John: Well and then it's like, dude, I have nothing against the country. But outsourcing there was really hard and there's some really big cultural reasons why, and I won't get into it, whatever. And then you have Upwork, which was Elance and oDesk at the time, which is fine, except the whole system is based around 100% turnover. And as a small business owner, 100% turnover guaranteed in your business, that sucks, hiring a contract worker, that's so stinking hard. So one day I'm talking to John Brizzy, the owner of backcountry.com. And he says to me, "When you're ready to start outsourcing some of this stuff, make sure you go to the Philippines with it." And I was like, "Huh, really?" And he gave me some reasons why, and more than just like, "Oh, this is amazing," it gave me hope that maybe I'd find something different than what I had experienced before, because that was really the thing was there's so much loss of hope in outsourcing because it's just a babysitting job and people that you're outsourcing to suck and they can only do menial tasks. And so I hired this guy in the Philippines full-time, which he gave me a reference to hire someone full-time and I didn't know if I could do it. It took me two months to hire someone because I didn't know if I could keep someone busy full-time I didn't know if I could pay them I didn't know if they could do good work. It was the most liberating experience in my life. This dude's full-time job was doing anything I asked him to do. And yeah, dude, that was amazing. I taught him how to systematize this whole system that I had completely failed with on Upwork. It was Elance at the time, but I hired this guy to write articles and he wrote these articles and sent them back to me. And I was like, "Yes, I got these articles done," this was on Elance. And then I realized, "Oh, now the burden falls on me to do the rest of the work." And that's where most stuff breaks down is when it falls on you to do the rest of the work. So when I had this guy in the Philippines, I realized, "Oh no, he can write the article and then he just worked full-time for me. So I can teach him to do the posting and the headers and the resource boxes and the links and I can teach them how SEO works and he can do all the SEO." And this was like 2005. So since then, I've realized oh yeah, you can hire amazing people, programmers, designers, social media people, content writers, data entry people, lead generators, whatever it is, copywriters, you can hire a really good people. And in the Philippines, I was paying the company, this is 2005, I was paying them $750 a month they're paying him $250 a month for full-time work. So today that same person's probably going to be like $450 a month straight from you to them because of what online jobs is. Russell: Because you guys created a platform. Because prior to, so the first time I hired someone from the Philippines, there was a company I hired and they... I can't remember name of it. Agents of Value, yes. Agents of Value, yes. And I was so excited because it was like 700 bucks you get a full-time employee, which I was paying American wages prior to everyone and I was freaking out. And then yeah, like you said, you find that they're only making $250, $300. And so what John built is a really cool, I wouldn't call it a directory, it's more than that, but it's a place you go, you sign up for it, and then there's how many Filipinos are listed there right now? John: There's over a million Filipino profiles there. Yeah, so what I created was what I wanted for myself. So after a couple of years of hiring people through this agency, I went to them and they said, "Well do you want a programmer or a webmaster?" I was like, "I want a content writer." "Well do you want a programmer or a webmaster," was their response. And agencies, generally, this is how they are. They're going to three times mark up the salary and then they're going to give you the same person. They're going to go to online jobs today and try and find the person... They do, I know they do. So I created what I wanted, which was I just want to recruit some people on my own and I want to hire them and I want to pay them directly and there's no markup, so there's no salary markup. And there's no middleman telling me who I need to hire, giving me someone crappy who doesn't know anything, which is what Agents of Value did multiple times. And so now I can go and find someone, find the exact person I want. And it's crazy. I hired a programmer who was working for IBM and he's so dang good. Or I found a copywriter, actually, I hired a copywriter who wrote some ClickFunnels emails. And it's amazing what you can find on onlinejobs.ph. And the crazy thing about the Philippines, I had no idea at the time. This is why this guy's advice was so dang good. And he obviously knew, and I had no idea. So in the Philippines, there's a culture of honesty and loyalty and hard work and make people happy. So my guys in the Philippines have my credit cards, they have access to my email account, they have access to my servers. We've seen hundreds of thousands of people hire people in the Philippines and have seen very, very few people get ripped off. And almost every time when they do, it's because they tried to get the person to do some work and then not pay the person. And obviously, yeah, they're going to try and get paid. And then there's the loyalty thing. So the Philippines, their culture is loyal almost to a fault. So when you hire them, they'll never stop working for you as long as you gain their trust. So the first person I hired in 2005 still works for me today. Yeah, and he's amazing. He can do anything. When I hired him, he knew nothing. Today, he can do anything I want. So the culture makes such a difference of the Philippines versus elsewhere, especially for a small business owner. Russell: All right, so I want to tell a story and I'm not embarrassed, maybe a little bit. So you and I had a chance to go to Australia to speak at Mal Emery's event. Do you remember what year that was? John: 2012. Russell: Dang. So 2012. And for those of you who know me and know I wrote a book about the perfect webinar as my things I'm really good at closing people and selling from the stage and all that kind of stuff. So John and I fly down to Australia, we both speak on stage and you destroyed me. It was really embarrassing. I only sold a handful and John sold everybody in the room literally bought his... It was insane. But I'm telling you this because there was a story you told in there that I'm going to mess with the details, but I want you to share the story with people. Number one, they'll get to know you a little better. But number two, it's also I think a lot of you guys have probably heard me or other people talk about outsourcing and you're like, "Oh yeah," and maybe you hire someone here or there, but for you, there was something in your life that happened that made forced you to do it and then that ended up giving you the freedom that literally we've been here this week, everyone's stressing out. No one's got cell phone access and John's just having the best time ever. And you have six weeks in a row vacation time. What week are we on right now? John: Four. Week five. Russell: Week five of six and I'm like one weekend. I'm like, "Well, I'm good." So anyway, I want you to hear this story because it's powerful, but also I think I'm hoping you guys hear and realize that you don't have to wait for something tragic or scary like this to happen. But if you kind of try to force it in your mind, you can have something like this happen and give yourself freedom earlier. So with that said, here's John. John: So I've worked about 17 hours a week for the last 13, 14 years. And here's what happened. So my wife is seven months pregnant with our third child. This is 2007. We went to the doctor, he's run some tests and he says to my wife, "You have preeclampsia. And if you don't go on strict bed rest for the next three to five weeks, you're going to have a seizure and you're going to lose this baby." And to me, obviously, I was there with her and it was a shock. And on my way home from the doctor's office, I was just thinking, "I'm working full time and I have to two other kids and she has to be on strict bed rest. I'm not about to lose a baby over money." So I was thinking, "What am I going to do?" So when I get home, I sent an email to two of my guys in the Philippines. I had two guys in the Philippines at the time and I sent an email to them. And I just want you to know, as I tell you this, they had been with me for about 18 months. These were not guy. I pulled off the street. You're not going to hire someone new and this is going to work for you. It's going to take some time. But I told them, "Hey guys, here's my situation. I can't work. Here's why. I need you to take over everything I'm currently doing in my business." And so I... Everything, everything. For the next three weeks, I literally worked one hour. And that one hour... So after that day, when I got home, I sent them all the instructions I could, that one hour was just responding to their questions. And they took over my Google AdWords account and they took over my blog and they took over the marketing that I was doing. They took over the SEO that I was doing. They took over customer service. They took over everything I was currently doing. Three weeks later, my wife has the baby, this beautiful little girl Bailey, who just turned 14. And for the next two months, my wife struggled with postpartum depression. And so I just kept not working. It was a little bit more, it was one hour a week because she was allowed to get out of bed now. And so I spent three months not working basically. And it's expected to have a disaster with my business and came back to find my business had grown. And I'm not going to tell you it's because these guys were running the business. That's not the case. But the point here is that I had had the right help and my business didn't crash when I wasn't there. So from there, this is where you'll really recognize I hope what the possibilities of outsourcing are. So after these three months, I was like, "Well there's only so many times in a day you can take your kids to the golf course," and you get bored. Because that's what I was doing. I was taking my kids to the golf course twice a day. And so I started designing a business based around how far can I take this outsourcing thing? Because I had only had these guys doing menial tasks up to that point. And now I realized like, "Whoa, they're way better than I thought they were. And so can I build a business based around them doing all the work and me just being the CEO?" So I started designing this business. I'll tell you what it was. We were going to write reviews about products and post them on our website and then drive traffic to them and put affiliate links on all the reviews. So I record myself talking for 45 minutes explaining this whole thing. And I bought a domain and I sent the domain and my recording to this guy in Philippines. And again, he had been working for me for a while and he takes the domain, sets it up on my hosting account, sets up WordPress and changes the theme according as I've described and sends it back to me a couple days later and it was horrible. And I was like, "Oh crap." So I went back and described it better and better again. And we did this for about a week until we got it right. He got the website how I wanted it. It was amazing. So then he wrote the first review and it was terrible. And I was like, "Oh yeah, this outsourcing thing isn't as good as I thought it was." Russell: You're like, "No, I'll take it all to myself." For me, that's what I've been using. Like, "Well I'm done. I'm just going to myself." I give up usually at that point. John: That's not what I did. And because that's not my personality. I want to see if I can make this thing work really. So I worked with him through the review. I was like, "Okay, we've got to change this and this and this. And we've got to get more data from here. And we've got to do this." So we worked for a couple of weeks, got the review right. And I never wrote another review. So he had already done some SEO, but I start teaching him more SEO and he starts doing SEO and he starts doing some social marketing, even though social media wasn't really a thing. But we started doing Craigslist stuff. And we started doing RSS feeds and we started doing everything that I knew to do at the time, I did. Everything I knew to implement, I did. Which today all the things you know to implement would be build your funnel and start your Dream 100 and run Facebook ads to it and start doing some SEO maybe and get on a podcast or start a podcast. All these things that you know you should be doing I was doing, except I wasn't the one doing them. So that business in the first month made me about $200. Within three months, it was making three to $500 a month. Within six months, it was making a thousand dollars a month, within a year is making me 10 to $15,000 a month. And this dude in the Philippines, who, again, I told you they're super loyal and super honest, he built the whole thing. He joined the affiliate programs. He starts running Google AdWords on it. Because I taught him how to do it. He sends me a report every month. "Here's how much money we spent. Here's how much money we made. Here's what I think I can do to improve the business and make more money." And that was where I realized like, "Oh yeah, these aren't just dummies that can only do menial work. They can only follow exact instructions." No, he read between the lines so many times he figured out so much stuff. And I don't want you to think that he built this whole business for me and I didn't do anything. Because I did. I was the CEO. I knew what was going on. I knew what had to happen. But I never touched it. I don't touch WordPress. I don't write content now. Russell: So let me ask you, so I know that there's people listening right now who are thinking, "Well why doesn't the guy just make his own blog and then just do it himself? And then he'll make the 10 grand a month for himself and not have to just cut you out of it." And I've thought of that as well. I'm curious why specifically Filipinos, why that's not an issue for you. John: So yeah, because in India, that's the first question they ask. And that's our experience with outsourcing is, "Well what's your business model here?" I explained to him the business model. In the Philippines, they're not entrepreneurial. They don't want to steal your business. They don't want to steal your idea. They don't want to do it on their own. That's too risky for them. They are really job oriented and they want a job. They want a long-term stable job that they can take home and reliably take care of their family. And I've seen that so, so many times. I have people that have worked for me since 2005 and 2006 and 2008 and nine and 10. And they also work with me. Russell: Awesome, okay, my last question for you then is I think we had this conversation last year. So John's my Lake Powell buddy. And it's our third time renting house boat together, fourth time on the lake together. But anyway. Last year we had this conversation, I'm not sure if you remember it, but it was impactful to me because for me, those who know me, I'm a perfectionist, especially comes to my funnels and copy and design and everything's going to be reviewed by me because anyway, I'm super annoying that way. But our stuff does really well. And so I'm always thinking it has to be perfect to go live and get shipped out there and actually be a live thing. And last year was talking to you about it. And your philosophy is obviously different than mine. You were more, do you remember this conversation we had? And you were talking about how you're like 80% is it's fine. The extra 20% is... Do you remember this conversation at all? I'd love to get just your mindset on that because it's something I could use, but probably other people as well where it doesn't have to be 100% to make money. It's got to be close. John: So there are some things where it needs to be 100%. But most things, it's more important to get it done than to get it done perfectly. And so for me, my philosophy is ship, get it out there. So just before we left, we're driving down here and I checked my project management and saw that they had completed this big long piece of content that we had. And I said to them, "I'm not going to review this, but publish it because I'm sure it's good enough. You guys are good and publish it." And when I get back, maybe I'll review it. Maybe I won't, I don't know. Maybe the task will be gone and I'll never see it. But to me, just getting it out there and having people see it is more likely to tell you the problems with it than I am to tell the problems by reading it myself and to creating a bottleneck myself to let me give you 16 more things that I don't think are perfect. Even though you guys think it's perfect, there's three other people that have seen it, and I don't think so, but they do, which tells me maybe I'm wrong. I also don't have, and this is a personality thing, I don't have the design eye that you do and I don't care as much. I want people to see it and I want people read it and ship it, get alive. We ship software with bugs all the time because then it's live and then people will instantly tell you, "Oh, this is a problem." "Oh, okay. We'll fix it. Sweet." Russell: As opposed to figuring out all the problems, mistakes on your own. Oh man. Well I hope you guys enjoyed this episode, it's a little different, but I don't normally interview. I don't even know John, you're like the second person to ever be on my podcast besides me. But I think it's good for everyone to understand. So for those who are in some part of their business where they're trying to think of if they can use outsourcing more, join Online Jobs, and this is not a paid ad. I get nothing from this other than as long as online jobs keeps making money off of a boat buddy at Lake Powell, otherwise I've got to pay for this whole thing by myself. But there's no advertising, but let them know how Online Jobs works. Because it's different. It's not like Agents of Value. You're hiring and paying them and could you walk them through how it works and wants to get the count and how to set it all up and everything? John: Yeah, so Online Jobs is kind of like indeed.com, but for the Philippines. So you go on and you post a job and it's free to post a job. And then depending on your job, you'll get a few or hundreds of job applicants. And if you get hundreds of job applicants, that's a problem, you can't go through hundreds of applicants. That sucks. But you'll get a bunch of applicants. And then you can see the applications for free. You can do all that for free. You just can't contact anybody. You don't get anybody's contact information until you pay. And it's $69 for a month and then you get to contact as many people as you want, really. Or you can reply to everybody who sent you a job application, if you want. And then you just interview them, you're going to use their Disk profile. Russell talks about Disk profiles. And I think it's amazing. Almost everybody on there has a Disk profile and you're going to send them emails and ask them tons of questions. And here's a little bit of advice, don't do a Skype interview right off the bat. That's the first thing everyone wants to do is get on the phone with them. And that's the last thing you should be doing when you do interviews with people in the Philippines. They don't want to do it. So do that at last when you've narrowed it down to three. You can give a test task. You're completely on your own. Every application will come to your email inbox if you want. It's your Gmail inbox. They'll also be in your online jobs inbox, but then you interview them and you hire them and you pay them. And we don't take a cut of any of that. If you're interested in more, I have, very similar to Russell's one funnel away, I have the one VA away challenge. So I will walk you through the hiring process and I guarantee you'll find a great person if you go through my process at one VA way. It's my process of how I hire great people. I never think, "I don't know if I'm going to find someone good this time or not." I'm going to find someone good. I know I am because I've done it so many times. Russell: So onevaaway.com? John: onevaaway.com Russell: Awesome, all right. And I'm going to product this. So obviously I have click funnels that whole business and there's support and there's team and everything. But we started building some of these side businesses and some fun projects I was working on and all of them have customers coming in now and customer support and all these things. And I was like, "Aaaa!” and so I asked John, I'm like, "Hey, what would you do if you're me?" He's like, "Dude, you're an idiot. Of course go to Online Jobs." So we did, sent them to the count, we hired three new Filipinos, they're on a Slack channel with us and they have access to our help desk. Our help desk has all these little sub companies we're building and they're cross-training on all the different products and they're awesome. Every morning they check it on Skype, like, "Good morning, we're here." And then they check out at night like, "We're done," and they have questions asked in Slack, and then they're just cross-training all of our products. And so we'll just keep adding more products in there and they're supporting all of them and it's amazing. And we've got three right now. We'll probably have more as we start growing and stuff like that. And I'm getting really excited about bringing in more to do more tasks. Everybody can do funnels. You guys are training now on a lot of them are doing funnels, a lot of them are doing copywriting, a lot of them are doing a lot of other stuff too. So anyway, it's exciting. So go to onlinejobs.ph or onevaaway.com. And with that said, hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Get your mind thinking about outsourcing and the Philippines and a whole bunch of cool things like that. So in fact, one time you gave me... So I've done this four or five times. We build up huge scenes. At one time I had this guy named Mateo we hired from the Philippines and he built a team of like 30 writers for me, back when we were doing SEO really, really hard. We were cranking on it. Anyway, it's fun to do and fun to learn and to get to know some really, really cool people. So anyway, hope that helps you guys appreciate you all and we'll see you guys on the next episode. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to take six weeks off without stressing even a little bit.

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Russell Brunson:

What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Right now, I'm at Lake Powell. I've been on the boat, the houseboat and jet-skis, and we did a waterboard, it's a type of Flyboard where you literally feel like Ironman flying through the sky. We just got done wake surfing, our kids have been wake surfing. It's been an insane week and I'm here with my friend, John Jonas. I'll introduce you guys here in a second. And for me, it was a lot to take a week off. I had no cell phone access for a week and John hasn't worked in eight years, 12 years. Just kidding, he's basically taking six weeks off.

He is the person in my life who somehow has figured out a systemized entire life. So he can just do whatever he wants whenever he wants. And so that's what we're talking about today is systemizing outsourcing and whole bunch of other stuff when we come back from the theme song. All right, so I'm back here. We're on top of the houseboat and I'm talking to John Jonas. Some of you guys know John, if not, he is the founder of onlinejobs.ph, which... Actually, do you want to tell them what it is and tell them about you?

John Jonas:

Yeah, thanks man. So when I was early on in my business, I just realized I needed help and finding help sucked. It was so hard. And everybody talked about outsourcing, outsourcing, outsourcing, and I tried India and it sucked. It did.

Russell:

The entire country.

John:

Well and then it's like, dude, I have nothing against the country. But outsourcing there was really hard and there's some really big cultural reasons why, and I won't get into it, whatever. And then you have Upwork, which was Elance and oDesk at the time, which is fine, except the whole system is based around 100% turnover. And as a small business owner, 100% turnover guaranteed in your business, that sucks, hiring a contract worker, that's so stinking hard. So one day I'm talking to John Brizzy, the owner of backcountry.com. And he says to me, "When you're ready to start outsourcing some of this stuff, make sure you go to the Philippines with it." And I was like, "Huh, really?" And he gave me some reasons why, and more than just like, "Oh, this is amazing," it gave me hope that maybe I'd find something different than what I had experienced before, because that was really the thing was there's so much loss of hope in outsourcing because it's just a babysitting job and people that you're outsourcing to suck and they can only do menial tasks.

And so I hired this guy in the Philippines full-time, which he gave me a reference to hire someone full-time and I didn't know if I could do it. It took me two months to hire someone because I didn't know if I could keep someone busy full-time I didn't know if I could pay them I didn't know if they could do good work. It was the most liberating experience in my life. This dude's full-time job was doing anything I asked him to do. And yeah, dude, that was amazing. I taught him how to systematize this whole system that I had completely failed with on Upwork. It was Elance at the time, but I hired this guy to write articles and he wrote these articles and sent them back to me. And I was like, "Yes, I got these articles done," this was on Elance.

And then I realized, "Oh, now the burden falls on me to do the rest of the work." And that's where most stuff breaks down is when it falls on you to do the rest of the work. So when I had this guy in the Philippines, I realized, "Oh no, he can write the article and then he just worked full-time for me. So I can teach him to do the posting and the headers and the resource boxes and the links and I can teach them how SEO works and he can do all the SEO." And this was like 2005. So since then, I've realized oh yeah, you can hire amazing people, programmers, designers, social media people, content writers, data entry people, lead generators, whatever it is, copywriters, you can hire a really good people. And in the Philippines, I was paying the company, this is 2005, I was paying them $750 a month they're paying him $250 a month for full-time work. So today that same person's probably going to be like $450 a month straight from you to them because of what online jobs is.

Russell:

Because you guys created a platform. Because prior to, so the first time I hired someone from the Philippines, there was a company I hired and they... I can't remember name of it. Agents of Value, yes. Agents of Value, yes. And I was so excited because it was like 700 bucks you get a full-time employee, which I was paying American wages prior to everyone and I was freaking out. And then yeah, like you said, you find that they're only making $250, $300. And so what John built is a really cool, I wouldn't call it a directory, it's more than that, but it's a place you go, you sign up for it, and then there's how many Filipinos are listed there right now?

John:

There's over a million Filipino profiles there. Yeah, so what I created was what I wanted for myself. So after a couple of years of hiring people through this agency, I went to them and they said, "Well do you want a programmer or a webmaster?" I was like, "I want a content writer." "Well do you want a programmer or a webmaster," was their response. And agencies, generally, this is how they are. They're going to three times mark up the salary and then they're going to give you the same person. They're going to go to online jobs today and try and find the person... They do, I know they do.

So I created what I wanted, which was I just want to recruit some people on my own and I want to hire them and I want to pay them directly and there's no markup, so there's no salary markup. And there's no middleman telling me who I need to hire, giving me someone crappy who doesn't know anything, which is what Agents of Value did multiple times. And so now I can go and find someone, find the exact person I want. And it's crazy. I hired a programmer who was working for IBM and he's so dang good.

Or I found a copywriter, actually, I hired a copywriter who wrote some ClickFunnels emails. And it's amazing what you can find on onlinejobs.ph. And the crazy thing about the Philippines, I had no idea at the time. This is why this guy's advice was so dang good. And he obviously knew, and I had no idea. So in the Philippines, there's a culture of honesty and loyalty and hard work and make people happy. So my guys in the Philippines have my credit cards, they have access to my email account, they have access to my servers. We've seen hundreds of thousands of people hire people in the Philippines and have seen very, very few people get ripped off. And almost every time when they do, it's because they tried to get the person to do some work and then not pay the person.

And obviously, yeah, they're going to try and get paid. And then there's the loyalty thing. So the Philippines, their culture is loyal almost to a fault. So when you hire them, they'll never stop working for you as long as you gain their trust. So the first person I hired in 2005 still works for me today. Yeah, and he's amazing. He can do anything. When I hired him, he knew nothing. Today, he can do anything I want. So the culture makes such a difference of the Philippines versus elsewhere, especially for a small business owner.

Russell:

All right, so I want to tell a story and I'm not embarrassed, maybe a little bit. So you and I had a chance to go to Australia to speak at Mal Emery's event. Do you remember what year that was?

John:

2012.

Russell:

  1. Dang. So 2012. And for those of you who know me and know I wrote a book about the perfect webinar as my things I'm really good at closing people and selling from the stage and all that kind of stuff. So John and I fly down to Australia, we both speak on stage and you destroyed me. It was really embarrassing. I only sold a handful and John sold everybody in the room literally bought his... It was insane. But I'm telling you this because there was a story you told in there that I'm going to mess with the details, but I want you to share the story with people. Number one, they'll get to know you a little better. But number two, it's also I think a lot of you guys have probably heard me or other people talk about outsourcing and you're like, "Oh yeah," and maybe you hire someone here or there, but for you, there was something in your life that happened that made forced you to do it and then that ended up giving you the freedom that literally we've been here this week, everyone's stressing out.

No one's got cell phone access and John's just having the best time ever. And you have six weeks in a row vacation time. What week are we on right now?

John:

Four. Week five.

Russell:

Week five of six and I'm like one weekend. I'm like, "Well, I'm good." So anyway, I want you to hear this story because it's powerful, but also I think I'm hoping you guys hear and realize that you don't have to wait for something tragic or scary like this to happen. But if you kind of try to force it in your mind, you can have something like this happen and give yourself freedom earlier. So with that said, here's John.

John:

So I've worked about 17 hours a week for the last 13, 14 years. And here's what happened. So my wife is seven months pregnant with our third child. This is 2007. We went to the doctor, he's run some tests and he says to my wife, "You have preeclampsia. And if you don't go on strict bed rest for the next three to five weeks, you're going to have a seizure and you're going to lose this baby." And to me, obviously, I was there with her and it was a shock. And on my way home from the doctor's office, I was just thinking, "I'm working full time and I have to two other kids and she has to be on strict bed rest. I'm not about to lose a baby over money." So I was thinking, "What am I going to do?"

So when I get home, I sent an email to two of my guys in the Philippines. I had two guys in the Philippines at the time and I sent an email to them. And I just want you to know, as I tell you this, they had been with me for about 18 months. These were not guy. I pulled off the street. You're not going to hire someone new and this is going to work for you. It's going to take some time. But I told them, "Hey guys, here's my situation. I can't work. Here's why. I need you to take over everything I'm currently doing in my business." And so I... Everything, everything.

For the next three weeks, I literally worked one hour. And that one hour... So after that day, when I got home, I sent them all the instructions I could, that one hour was just responding to their questions. And they took over my Google AdWords account and they took over my blog and they took over the marketing that I was doing. They took over the SEO that I was doing. They took over customer service. They took over everything I was currently doing. Three weeks later, my wife has the baby, this beautiful little girl Bailey, who just turned 14. And for the next two months, my wife struggled with postpartum depression. And so I just kept not working. It was a little bit more, it was one hour a week because she was allowed to get out of bed now.

And so I spent three months not working basically. And it's expected to have a disaster with my business and came back to find my business had grown. And I'm not going to tell you it's because these guys were running the business. That's not the case. But the point here is that I had had the right help and my business didn't crash when I wasn't there. So from there, this is where you'll really recognize I hope what the possibilities of outsourcing are. So after these three months, I was like, "Well there's only so many times in a day you can take your kids to the golf course," and you get bored. Because that's what I was doing. I was taking my kids to the golf course twice a day. And so I started designing a business based around how far can I take this outsourcing thing?

Because I had only had these guys doing menial tasks up to that point. And now I realized like, "Whoa, they're way better than I thought they were. And so can I build a business based around them doing all the work and me just being the CEO?" So I started designing this business. I'll tell you what it was. We were going to write reviews about products and post them on our website and then drive traffic to them and put affiliate links on all the reviews. So I record myself talking for 45 minutes explaining this whole thing. And I bought a domain and I sent the domain and my recording to this guy in Philippines.

And again, he had been working for me for a while and he takes the domain, sets it up on my hosting account, sets up WordPress and changes the theme according as I've described and sends it back to me a couple days later and it was horrible. And I was like, "Oh crap." So I went back and described it better and better again. And we did this for about a week until we got it right. He got the website how I wanted it. It was amazing. So then he wrote the first review and it was terrible. And I was like, "Oh yeah, this outsourcing thing isn't as good as I thought it was."

Russell:

You're like, "No, I'll take it all to myself." For me, that's what I've been using. Like, "Well I'm done. I'm just going to myself." I give up usually at that point.

John:

That's not what I did. And because that's not my personality. I want to see if I can make this thing work really. So I worked with him through the review. I was like, "Okay, we've got to change this and this and this. And we've got to get more data from here. And we've got to do this." So we worked for a couple of weeks, got the review right. And I never wrote another review. So he had already done some SEO, but I start teaching him more SEO and he starts doing SEO and he starts doing some social marketing, even though social media wasn't really a thing. But we started doing Craigslist stuff. And we started doing RSS feeds and we started doing everything that I knew to do at the time, I did. Everything I knew to implement, I did.

Which today all the things you know to implement would be build your funnel and start your Dream 100 and run Facebook ads to it and start doing some SEO maybe and get on a podcast or start a podcast. All these things that you know you should be doing I was doing, except I wasn't the one doing them. So that business in the first month made me about $200. Within three months, it was making three to $500 a month. Within six months, it was making a thousand dollars a month, within a year is making me 10 to $15,000 a month. And this dude in the Philippines, who, again, I told you they're super loyal and super honest, he built the whole thing. He joined the affiliate programs.

He starts running Google AdWords on it. Because I taught him how to do it. He sends me a report every month. "Here's how much money we spent. Here's how much money we made. Here's what I think I can do to improve the business and make more money." And that was where I realized like, "Oh yeah, these aren't just dummies that can only do menial work. They can only follow exact instructions." No, he read between the lines so many times he figured out so much stuff. And I don't want you to think that he built this whole business for me and I didn't do anything. Because I did. I was the CEO. I knew what was going on. I knew what had to happen. But I never touched it. I don't touch WordPress. I don't write content now.

Russell:

So let me ask you, so I know that there's people listening right now who are thinking, "Well why doesn't the guy just make his own blog and then just do it himself? And then he'll make the 10 grand a month for himself and not have to just cut you out of it." And I've thought of that as well. I'm curious why specifically Filipinos, why that's not an issue for you.

John:

So yeah, because in India, that's the first question they ask. And that's our experience with outsourcing is, "Well what's your business model here?" I explained to him the business model. In the Philippines, they're not entrepreneurial. They don't want to steal your business. They don't want to steal your idea. They don't want to do it on their own. That's too risky for them. They are really job oriented and they want a job. They want a long-term stable job that they can take home and reliably take care of their family. And I've seen that so, so many times. I have people that have worked for me since 2005 and 2006 and 2008 and nine and 10. And they also work with me.

Russell:

Awesome, okay, my last question for you then is I think we had this conversation last year. So John's my Lake Powell buddy. And it's our third time renting house boat together, fourth time on the lake together. But anyway. Last year we had this conversation, I'm not sure if you remember it, but it was impactful to me because for me, those who know me, I'm a perfectionist, especially comes to my funnels and copy and design and everything's going to be reviewed by me because anyway, I'm super annoying that way. But our stuff does really well. And so I'm always thinking it has to be perfect to go live and get shipped out there and actually be a live thing.

And last year was talking to you about it. And your philosophy is obviously different than mine. You were more, do you remember this conversation we had? And you were talking about how you're like 80% is it's fine. The extra 20% is... Do you remember this conversation at all? I'd love to get just your mindset on that because it's something I could use, but probably other people as well where it doesn't have to be 100% to make money. It's got to be close.

John:

So there are some things where it needs to be 100%. But most things, it's more important to get it done than to get it done perfectly. And so for me, my philosophy is ship, get it out there. So just before we left, we're driving down here and I checked my project management and saw that they had completed this big long piece of content that we had. And I said to them, "I'm not going to review this, but publish it because I'm sure it's good enough. You guys are good and publish it." And when I get back, maybe I'll review it. Maybe I won't, I don't know. Maybe the task will be gone and I'll never see it. But to me, just getting it out there and having people see it is more likely to tell you the problems with it than I am to tell the problems by reading it myself and to creating a bottleneck myself to let me give you 16 more things that I don't think are perfect.

Even though you guys think it's perfect, there's three other people that have seen it, and I don't think so, but they do, which tells me maybe I'm wrong. I also don't have, and this is a personality thing, I don't have the design eye that you do and I don't care as much. I want people to see it and I want people read it and ship it, get alive. We ship software with bugs all the time because then it's live and then people will instantly tell you, "Oh, this is a problem." "Oh, okay. We'll fix it. Sweet."

Russell:

As opposed to figuring out all the problems, mistakes on your own. Oh man. Well I hope you guys enjoyed this episode, it's a little different, but I don't normally interview. I don't even know John, you're like the second person to ever be on my podcast besides me. But I think it's good for everyone to understand. So for those who are in some part of their business where they're trying to think of if they can use outsourcing more, join Online Jobs, and this is not a paid ad. I get nothing from this other than as long as online jobs keeps making money off of a boat buddy at Lake Powell, otherwise I've got to pay for this whole thing by myself. But there's no advertising, but let them know how Online Jobs works. Because it's different. It's not like Agents of Value. You're hiring and paying them and could you walk them through how it works and wants to get the count and how to set it all up and everything?

John:

Yeah, so Online Jobs is kind of like indeed.com, but for the Philippines. So you go on and you post a job and it's free to post a job. And then depending on your job, you'll get a few or hundreds of job applicants. And if you get hundreds of job applicants, that's a problem, you can't go through hundreds of applicants. That sucks. But you'll get a bunch of applicants. And then you can see the applications for free. You can do all that for free. You just can't contact anybody. You don't get anybody's contact information until you pay. And it's $69 for a month and then you get to contact as many people as you want, really. Or you can reply to everybody who sent you a job application, if you want. And then you just interview them, you're going to use their Disk profile.

Russell talks about Disk profiles. And I think it's amazing. Almost everybody on there has a Disk profile and you're going to send them emails and ask them tons of questions. And here's a little bit of advice, don't do a Skype interview right off the bat. That's the first thing everyone wants to do is get on the phone with them. And that's the last thing you should be doing when you do interviews with people in the Philippines. They don't want to do it. So do that at last when you've narrowed it down to three. You can give a test task. You're completely on your own. Every application will come to your email inbox if you want. It's your Gmail inbox. They'll also be in your online jobs inbox, but then you interview them and you hire them and you pay them. And we don't take a cut of any of that.

If you're interested in more, I have, very similar to Russell's one funnel away, I have the one VA away challenge. So I will walk you through the hiring process and I guarantee you'll find a great person if you go through my process at one VA way. It's my process of how I hire great people. I never think, "I don't know if I'm going to find someone good this time or not." I'm going to find someone good. I know I am because I've done it so many times.

Russell:

So onevaaway.com?

John:

onevaaway.com

Russell:

Awesome, all right. And I'm going to product this. So obviously I have click funnels that whole business and there's support and there's team and everything. But we started building some of these side businesses and some fun projects I was working on and all of them have customers coming in now and customer support and all these things. And I was like, "Aaaa!” and so I asked John, I'm like, "Hey, what would you do if you're me?" He's like, "Dude, you're an idiot. Of course go to Online Jobs." So we did, sent them to the count, we hired three new Filipinos, they're on a Slack channel with us and they have access to our help desk. Our help desk has all these little sub companies we're building and they're cross-training on all the different products and they're awesome. Every morning they check it on Skype, like, "Good morning, we're here."

And then they check out at night like, "We're done," and they have questions asked in Slack, and then they're just cross-training all of our products. And so we'll just keep adding more products in there and they're supporting all of them and it's amazing. And we've got three right now. We'll probably have more as we start growing and stuff like that. And I'm getting really excited about bringing in more to do more tasks. Everybody can do funnels. You guys are training now on a lot of them are doing funnels, a lot of them are doing copywriting, a lot of them are doing a lot of other stuff too.

So anyway, it's exciting. So go to onlinejobs.ph or onevaaway.com. And with that said, hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Get your mind thinking about outsourcing and the Philippines and a whole bunch of cool things like that. So in fact, one time you gave me... So I've done this four or five times. We build up huge scenes. At one time I had this guy named Mateo we hired from the Philippines and he built a team of like 30 writers for me, back when we were doing SEO really, really hard. We were cranking on it. Anyway, it's fun to do and fun to learn and to get to know some really, really cool people. So anyway, hope that helps you guys appreciate you all and we'll see you guys on the next episode. Bye.

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]]> 1546 no Clubhouse Q&A - Round 3! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/clubhouse-qa-round-3 Enjoy another round of questions and answers during a recent Marketing Secrets Live episode. Register for the next Marketing Secrets Live episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets Show. During this episode, you're going to have a chance to listen to some of the live Q and A. And this one got really fun. We had some really cool directions and angles that we went on. I think there's something for everybody through this Q and A, so hopefully you enjoy it. On top of that, don't forget: If you want to get your question answered live, make sure you subscribe at clubhousewithrussell.com. It's clubhousewithrussell.com. Go there. Subscribe to the room. And that way, you'll be notified the next time I decide to go live, and you can jump on and get your questions answered. These questions this week were really fun. A lot of different directions. I think you guys will get a lot of value from it. So that said, we'll cue the theme song. When we get back, we'll jump directly into the questions and answers. Yhennifer: Awesome. So our first guest here is Tracy. Tracy is guiding you with tax reduction strategies! All right, Tracy. Thank you so much for being here. What question do you have for Russell? Tracy: Hi, Russell! This is Tracy Lo, and I am so inspired by your stories all the time. I've learned so much from both you from afar, and also Myron. So my question is: How do you keep all your parts moving? Do you have a strategy for keeping your mental state as well as your philanthropy and your business together? What is your strategy? Russell: Oh, that's a great question! I would say I've been lucky, because when I first started this business, it was me trying to figure things out. And I was more chaotic than I am now. Anyone on my team is laughing, because they know that it's still kind of chaos. I think from the outside, things look organized, and things like that. But it's really surrounding myself with a good team of people. People who have a similar mission, who are trying to do the same things that we're doing together. It's having a good team of people. And then a lot of it is just figuring out how to build the things into your routines that'll get you the success you're looking for. Right? So for me, I know that for the first... ah, man... seven to eight years of my entrepreneur journey, I wasn't into health. And so I gained a ton of weight. And I had a... You know? I was more lethargic. I didn't even know I was unhealthy until I decided to start getting in shape and getting back in. And all of a sudden, by getting back in shape, it increased my energy. I felt better. And I was like, "Oh, my gosh! I need to weave this, now, into my routine to make sure I don't lose it again." So it became part of my routine where these things are all tied into it. Right? And so now it's easy, because it's just part of what I do. Mentally: "Okay. How do I stay sharp?" Well, if I'm going to be successful, I get paid to think for a lot of people. So if I'm going to be successful, my mind has got to be sharp. So I got to go listen to podcasts, and read books. And putting myself in situations where I can keep sharp and keep figuring out, "What's working today? What are the things that are working the best?" And so I figure out what all those things are, and then I put them into my schedule. I say, "Okay. I need to build this into my routine where I have time to listen to podcasts, or read books, or go to things that are going to help stimulate my mind so I can stay high there." And then charities. Right? When we decided... It's funny, because I get hit. I'm sure all of you guys here, you're hit by a million people wanting to... "I want to start donating money, maybe, to charities!" And for me, it's like, "I don't want to be the person that just gives money and then forgets about it." I want to make sure the things that I'm passionate about, so... Like Village Impact, we're very passionate about that. So it was like, "Okay. How do we make this part of what we do?" And so it wasn't just like... Give them a check, and then a year later, figure it out. It was like, "Okay. If we're going to do this with them, let's be very strategic about that." So I said, "Okay. Let's..." Todd and I, when we started ClickFunnels, we said, "Okay. Let's set up where every time somebody creates a funnel inside of ClickFunnels and it gets at least 100 visitors..." So it's a live funnel. "We'll donate a dollar to Village Impact." And so we started that seven years ago. And the first year, I think our check we gave them was... I don't know, $15 grand. And then the next year, it was $30 grand. And then $60 grand. And then $100 grand. So it gets bigger and bigger, but it's now part of the mission. So I don't have to think about it, because it's built into what we're doing. And now every year at Funnel Hacking Live, I'm like, "Stu and Amy, come on stage!" And we have a big old check. You know? Now, it's six-figure checks. And they get bigger. And it's eventually going to be seven-figure checks. But it's built into what we're doing, and so I don't have to think about it again. You know? O.U.R. is the same thing. We did the big launch where we launched with the documentary, and it did well, but then it wasn't consistent. So we're building a whole platform now that'll be a consistency thing, where it's now that... This mission is always being worked on, because there's a platform, and there's someone in charge of it. There's a team member who... that becomes their sole focus. And now it's weaved into it. So it's figuring out the things that are important to you that help you achieve the goals you want, and then figuring out... How do you weave those things into your routine, or your business model, or your whatever, so that it just happens and you don't have to think about it? Because it's too hard. We have so many things we're all doing. If you have to have the mental power to think about it every time, then nothing ever happens. So that's kind of how I do it. And I hope that helps. And it's also surrounding yourself by amazing humans who help fulfill those missions as well. Tracy: Thanks so much, Russell. This is Tracy Lo, CPA, passing the mic. Thank you. Russell: Awesome! Thank you, Tracy. Appreciate it. Yhennifer: All right. Thank you for being here, Tracy. Now we're going to go on to Jermaine. Jermaine is in the real estate industry. Jermaine, what question do you have for Russell? Jermaine: Hey, Russell! Hey, everyone! I just had a quick question. I was wondering... Well, I got two questions. The first one: I didn't quite catch that book that you recommended? Russell: Was it Atlas Shrugged? Jermaine: What was that again? Russell: Atlas Shrugged. Jermaine: Yep. That's it. Russell: It's a really big book, so it takes commitment. It's insanely big. But as an entrepreneur and producer, you will love it. Especially in the real estate market. Jermaine: Okay. And I also wanted to know... while I have you... I wanted to know: Throughout all your time that you've changed the world and inspired people, what was your biggest business challenge that you had to overcome? And how did you overcome it? Russell: Oh, that's a great question! You know what's interesting, is that at every level, there's a new challenge. And so it changes. And every time when you're going through it, it seems like the biggest thing in the world. And when you look back, it's like, "Oh, that was actually really simple." But in the heat of the moment, it's hard. For the beginning part, it was just me believing that I was worth it. Right? I was the kid who struggled in school. I was never that smart. The only thing I was ever good at was wrestling. And I'm trying to start a business, and then I had a million doubts of, "I'm not worthy. I don't know how to do this. I'm not smart enough. I don't..." At the time, I didn't like to read! You know? First, it's that mental battle. I think for most entrepreneurs when they start their journey, it's the mental battle of just believing that you're worth it, that you can actually do it. And so for me, that one took a while. And then when I finally was like, "Oh, my gosh. I'm not..." I always thought I was a dumb kid growing up, because I struggled in school. So I remember having the realization after I started having success. I was like, "Oh, my gosh. I'm not dumb! I can learn things! If I'm interested in the book, I can actually read it and enjoy it!" So that was the first big hurdle for me. Right? The next one was... As I got to a point in my business that was like... It was just me, and I was juggling a million things. I was like, "Okay. How do I... I can't keep doing this. I'm going to drown eventually." So I was bringing on employees to the team. And man, I can't tell you how bad I was at that! I hired all my friends. All my friends, I just hired initially, because I was like, "Oh. They're cool. I'll hang out with them!" So I hired all my friends. It turns out my friends are morons... No, I'm just kidding! Well, kind of. Some of them were... But no, I love them all. But it was like I hired all my friends, and they didn't know what to do. And I didn't know how to teach them. So I was like... Dude, I was working while they were all goofing off in the other room. And they wanted help, but I couldn't teach them, because I was too busy trying to make money to pay them. And so it took me years to figure out, "How do you get a team and get the right people in place?" And that was the next big challenge. Right? Then it was like, "How do you actually create something that's not just an offer?" Right? That could be a long-standing business. We tried for years to figure that out. And eventually, ClickFunnels was the business that became more than just an offer for me where it was like, "Oh, my gosh. This is a platform, something that can grow bigger." And then inside of that, there has been so many challenges. How do you scale a company like that? You know? How do you scale the support? How do you go from five employees to 500 employees? There's just different challenges to every step. And so I think that there's been a lot of them. But the biggest thing I would say is that the key that I find at every tier, the thing... It took me a while to figure this out initially. And now, I've gotten better at realizing, "Oh, the pattern to solve these is always the same." It is... You can call it "funnel hacking," call it, "modeling," whatever it is... is I try to always connect to the people that are a tier above me or two tiers above me. Right? So right now, we're trying to... I literally am paying somebody who's gone here, done this. And we do a one-hour call every other week with him. He's built multiple companies, software companies, to the billion-dollar mark. And so he's been down the path. And so we get on a call. I'm like, "Okay. Here's where we're stuck. What am I going to do? What would you do?" And I'm asking questions and modeling, like, "Hey. Show me three businesses that have done what you're talking about." And he'll show me. We'll find it. And we look at it, and we reverse-engineer it. We come back and apply it. And so the key is just really figuring out... It's modeling. It's figuring out who's already done the thing you're doing. Find that person. Pay them money. Get to know them. Join their coaching. But whatever it is, get around the people who have already done the thing you're trying to do. Because for them, it's simple. Right? For us, as we're going through it, it's really, really difficult. But the person who's already done it, looking back, it's simple. For me, now, the mindset and belief of, "I can do this," is simple now. I get it. I can help somebody with that really, really easily. Whereas in the moment, it was impossible. It felt impossible. Right? Launching a software company felt like an impossible moment, and now it's super easy. So it's finding people who... The thing you're struggling with now is super easy, because they've already done it multiple times. Getting around them. Hiring them. Paying them. And learning how to think like them. Right? It's always a shift in thinking and belief. And so it's coming back and saying, "Okay. I've got to think like them. I've got to believe like them." I think a lot of times, many of us... and I see this a lot with people who hire me... they hire me, or they hire a coach, and then they try to get the coach to believe or think like they do. And I'm the opposite: I'm not coming to you to try to influence your beliefs. I'm coming to you to change my beliefs. And that's a hard thing to do. Right? Our ego gets in the way a lot of times. So it's coming and saying, "Okay. I'm a blank slate. I'm going to do whatever you say." In fact, it's funny, because inside our community, we have the... Kaelin Poulin started it with the whole hashtag, #dowhatrussellsays. And at first, I was really embarrassed by it. But now, it's so cool! Because it's like, "Yeah. If you're hiring me to be your coach, just do what I say!" If I hire a coach, I just do what they say. I literally just... In fact, I'm working on my fourth book right now. And I have a quote. One of my friends wrote this in a blog post. He was talking about his morning routine, and why he does this really weird thing. And he says in the thing, he said, "People ask me why I do this." He said, "Because Tony Robbins told me so, and I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence." And so for me, it's always been this joke: Now, when I hire a coach, whatever they say, I say, "I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence." Right? If I hire someone, I just believe them inherently, because I did the work ahead of time to see if I'm going to believe them. If I believe them, I give them my money. And I do whatever they say, and I don't deviate from that. Right? So people in my world say hashtag, "#dowhatrussellsays." For me, it's hashtag, "#dowhatstevencollinssays." That's the guy who I hired right now who is mentoring me. Whatever he says, I just do it. I don't fight. I don't question. He's been there a million times. And so I just do what all giant... You know? I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. I obey whoever I pay to teach me something, because they know what I don't know. And so for me, that's kind of the process: Find the hurdle. Find out who's already done it. Get that person. And then obey them, and just follow what they say to a T. So I hope that helps. Jermaine: That made perfect sense. So you basically trust yourself, and then you do what your coaches say? Russell: 100 percent. Yep! I do the work ahead of time. Before I hire the coach, I got to make sure I believe this coach is right. But if I believe they're right, then yes, I just do whatever they say. And so I see people, sometimes, blindly will sign up for coaching, or they'll hire a mentor, or whatever. And then they just kind of blindly follow the person. The person might not be right for them. But I do the homework ahead of time. And then when I know, "Okay. I'm committed. This is the person." Then I go all in, and I just put on blinders and follow them. Jermaine: Got you. I appreciate that. What was that book again? I'm going to have to write that down. Russell: Atlas Shrugged. So the way to remember it is Atlas is the god that's holding the weight of the world on his shoulders. And the premise of the book is: The producers, the entrepreneurs, people like us who are trying to... We're literally holding the weight of the world on our shoulders. Right? We're creating companies. We're creating jobs, and doing all these things. What would happen if Atlas just shrugged and walked away from his responsibilities? So the book is about that. What happens when the producers get so much pressure from government and society where it's no longer worth it to them, so they shrug, and they walk away from their responsibilities? And so that's the premise of the book, which is so fascinating. I'm actually listening to it again right now, which is fun. But it's a 1500-page book. It's intense. If you listen to the audiobook, it's eight audiobooks. That's how big it is. But man, it's worth it! Jermaine: I'm going to grab both of them right now. I've got all of your books. I've been following you for a while. My favorite one is the DotCom Secrets. Russell: Oh, very cool! Thanks, man! I appreciate that. Yhennifer: Awesome! Thank you. Jermaine: You're welcome. Yhennifer: ... Jermaine. Thank you for being here today. I'm going to reset the room really quickly. We are, right now, listening to the Marketing Secrets Live podcast. This room is actually being recorded. Make sure you follow the house at the top so that you can get a notification when Russell goes live again here. Now, we are going to give the mic to Jeff. Welcome, Jeff! He is a product launch expert, has made over $8 million from 22 launches in three years. What question do you have for Russell, Jeff? Russell: What's up, Jeff? Jeff: Hey, Russell! What's going on, buddy? Russell: Good to hear from you. Jeff: So hey, being in your inner circle for the last five years, I've had the awesome pleasure of watching all the big house marketing initiatives that you've incorporated into the funnels that you and the rest of the ClickFunnels community launched, and also at your annual Funnel Hacking Live event with Village Impact and O.U.R., as you mentioned. So what's been cool to see is the more funnels and events you launch, the more you're able to give back, which is awesome. So how are you thinking about incorporating that live launch strategy that you've been doing with, perhaps, more of an evergreen launch strategy now? With things like OFA, your quarterly Two Comma Club Live virtual event, and now the DotCom Secrets Summit that you just launched, with some of these... trying to also bring in these new live launches. I know you have Funnel Hacking Live coming up in a few months. Can you just talk about... Each month, what are you looking at in terms of evergreen versus live? Russell: Yeah. That's a good question. That's something we could talk about for a long time. You know? I think it's interesting. I watch somebody like Tony Robbins, who... He does UPW four times a year. He does Date with Destiny twice a year. And he does these things. And he's been doing it live for decades now. Three or four decades, he's been doing these events. If you go to them, they're very similar every single time. And for me, it's tough, because if I go back and I teach the same thing twice, I want to pull my hair out! You know? And I'm like, "I don't know how Tony has been so consistent for so long." And so for me, it's like there's this blend. Right? There's things that... The DotCom Secrets book came from me from a decade of me teaching these principles. I was doing events, and speaking at other people's events, and teaching these principles. And finally, I was like, "If I have to tell this story about the value ladder one more time, I'm going to kill myself." Right? So that's when I finally was like, "I'm going to write a book." So I wrote a book. And it was like, "Here it is. It's now evergreen. I can give it to people. And I don't want to talk about this thing again." Right? A similar thing happened with Expert Secrets. And you were in the inner circle, and I was... We spent three years geeking out on webinars, and conversions, and psychology, and all this kind of stuff. And I was like, "I don't ever want to talk about this again." So I turned it into a book. And I was like, "Hey, there's the blueprint!" And so I look at the online stuff through a very similar way. Right? We did the Two Comma Club Live event that first time, and then my energy was there. I was excited. It was fun. We created it. We launched it. It was amazing! But then, I was like... For me, it's like art. I didn't want to just be like, "Hey, it's done!" And walk away from it. But I didn't want to teach it again. So it's like, "Okay. How do I turn this experience into something that's now evergreen?" That we can keep the message going on. Right? So that when I'm dead and gone, my kids can keep running the ads, and keep running the event, and it'll keep producing. Because for me, all the stuff we do is art. And so I want to sustain it. So I'm always looking: Is there something I can do that I can create it, but then it'll last? It'll live beyond myself. Right? If you've read Ryan Holiday's book, The Perennial Seller... In fact, he spoke last year at Funnel Hacking Live about that book. I was like, "I want you to talk about Perennial Seller!" He was like, "I've written eight books since then!" I was like, "I know, but that's my favorite one! You've got to talk about that." But in Perennial Seller, he talks about the difference between art that lasts forever versus stuff that happens and is gone. Right? A good example is in movies. Right? Avatar, for a long time, was the greatest selling movie of all time. But if you ask someone to quote an Avatar line, there's not a person on this Earth who can remember anything from that movie. Right? It was a great seller, but then it died. Right? And so many people in our industry do a big sell, and then it dies. And it disappears. Versus you create a movie like Star Wars, where it lives beyond itself... It has legacy. It's a perennial seller. It'll continue to do well for a million years from now. Or you have TV shows. Right? You look at Seinfeld versus Friends: Friends was very much successful in the moment, but then it hasn't lived on as well as something like Seinfeld, which has lived on in perpetuity for so long. Much more of a perennial seller. And so I was always trying to create things that could be perennial sellers. And so when I do do something like that where I think it can last beyond itself, where things are strategic enough that they're not tactical, and they're going to change. Where they're strategic and we can do it, I want those things to live forever. So again, that's the Summits. That's the Two Comma Club Live, and things like that. But then we have our big hits. Right? Funnel Hacking Live, it's a big show. It's what's working now. You know? We put all this energy and this effort into it, but we know it's a one-time show. Right? And it happens. It's done. It's over. And then next year, we're going to plan a new one. And we can't evergreen Funnel Hacking Live. Right? It's a little bit different. And so it's just looking at those kind of things. You know? Sometimes, you're going to have an Avatar hit. And you should totally go and take the 100 billion dollars it makes and cash it, because that's awesome. But other things you create, you want the longevity. And so for me, that's how I'm looking at things. It's just like, "Okay. What things have longevity? What things do I want to be a perennial seller? What things do I think can last just beyond a product launch or beyond a thing?" And as soon as it's done, then it's like, "Okay. How do we morph that into something now that can last beyond the moment?" So that's kind of how I look at things in my head, how I figure things out. And then on top of that, it's just... You know? We're still kind of figuring it out. So some things, we're finding that we launch and we make the perennial version, they don't last long. They're still there. So people can find them, but they're not... The longevity is not there. We can't continue to buy ads to it. Whereas One Funnel Way, it's crazy! To this day, One Funnel Way has been running almost three years now. We fill up 1500 every two weeks to a 100 dollar, paid challenge. And it continues to convert. It continues to work. It continues to... That one is, of all the things we've done, the most perennial, and just continues to work. And I wouldn't have guessed that going into it until we tried to make the evergreen version. And it kept working. And it's like, "Oh, my gosh! This is amazing!" So yeah. I don't know if that answers the question. But kind of... That's how I think through things, and how I'm looking at stuff. Myron: Can I ask you a question about that, Russell? Russell: Yeah, Myron! I'd love to. Myron: What advertising methodologies are you using to put 1500 people in a challenge every two weeks? Because that sounds phenomenal! Russell: Yeah! A couple things: Number one is we pay 100 percent affiliate commission. So the only people who go through it refer people, and it's 100 bucks, and they get 100 percent of that 100 bucks. Number two is that I can spend 100... I can lose money. So I can spend 150, 200 dollars to sell a challenge. So I can spend a lot of money to do it, because again, 100 percent of the money goes directly back into advertising. We're not trying to make money on the challenge. As you know, all the money is in the back. And amateurs focus on the front end. So we liquidate it. 100 percent of our money goes into the ad spin. And number three, I think, is just... The message is right. For some reason, that message, it lives long. Right? The people, if it's their very first time... You look at the headline. It's like, "If you want to launch your first or your next funnel." So if it's their first one, it's like, "Oh, this is going to help me." Number two, it's like if you've launched a funnel but, "I need to go back and do this again," it gives you a chance to review it and go back through it. And I'd say the last thing is we weave that theme into all of our offers now. If you look at everything, every offer leads back to OFA. You buy all my books? OFA is in that sales flow. You do one of our challenges, it leads back to OFA. So it's weaved into everything now. So it's plugged into the back end of everything we're doing. And so no matter what somebody buys, all roads lead to the One Funnel Way challenge eventually, which is pretty cool. Myron: Wow! Russell: Yeah. And we're working on, now- Myron: Great stuff. Russell: We're working on a One Funnel Away e-commerce version of the OFA challenge next, which I'm really excited for as well. So anyway- Dan: And you do that live every two weeks? Russell: So I don't. I recorded it live once. And we have a team, now, though. So we have a team of... One person runs it, and three or four coaches. And so every week, they reset a new Facebook group. And then they're in there full-time answering questions. And then they stream. The trades that were live at one time, they stream them into the Facebook group. And all the interaction happens there. So it feels very alive. People know it's not alive, but it feels very live. It's executed live. It's not like logging the members in and watch... Day-one videos. We try to replicate the experience as close as possible. And again, it's not just like, "Go watch this video and hope for the best." Literally, they watch the video, and then there's coaches in there who are answering questions, who are getting them to do the homework, who are... Full-time, their job is in there, now. Because it's been so profitable for us, man, we left... I always tell people: One of the biggest problems that us entrepreneurs have is we create something and then we move on to the next thing. And OFA was the first thing that our group created it, and were like, "There's something magic here." And we left somebody behind. So Shane on our team, we left him behind and said, "Your job is to continue to make this better and to run it." And then he hired three or four coaches, and now there's a team of people who, full-time, all they do is make sure OFA is happening, and it's consistent, and it works. And because we left somebody behind, that's why the fulfillment continues to improve week after week, although I'm not creating new content week after week. Dan: And it converts similar with the streaming replay as it did with you doing it live? Russell: Yeah. Yeah. Dan: That's- Russell: It was easier to sell people in initially: "Yeah, go sign up for it! Go to onefunnelway.com and watch the process!" But yes- Dan: That's what I'm going to do right now. Russell: 100 percent. 100 percent. And like I said, three years, we've been running that thing. We launched initially, and then we did it live again four or five months ago just to kind of refresh the whole thing. But other than that, it's the same thing. And it runs on autopilot. Dan: And the affiliate aspect is really important, because everybody that comes in, you then say, "Hey. Do you want to make money? Did you love this challenge? Bring somebody in." And they get a commission. Can I just ask one question about that? Russell: Yeah. Let me give one clarity, and then ask the question. So the clarity is- Dan: Yeah. Russell: also right when they first come in. It's like, "You paid 100 bucks for this. Do you want this to be free? Invite a friend." It's right when they sign up. It's like, "Bring by a friend," and now it's free for them, because they just get one person to sign up, and now it's free. Dan: Okay. That... Okay. So that's my question, is: You guys have really, truly went just deep in the affiliate game. And I almost feel like, sometimes, going all-in on the affiliate game is like... I'd rather pay my customers and my clients than pay Zuckerberg. Do you know what I mean? Honestly! And so my question to you, on that, is: How do you train somebody who is a normal customer, who is not an affiliate or a traditional super affiliate, to actually refer people to you? Obviously, you have to tell them, "Hey, here's how you refer people." What's your best tip for that? Russell: Yeah. The best tip is you have to think about it differently. A lot of people are thinking about, "I'm going to make him an affiliate, and teach him about affiliate marketing!" And the average customer, they're not going to be an affiliate. Right? You look at... The people in e-com space do this really well, a lot of times, and other places, where it's... The position is not how to make a bunch of money as an affiliate. The position is, "How do you get this product for free?" Right? It's like, "Hey. You get three people to sign up for this, or..." You know? Whatever. For me, it's like, "You get one person to sign up, and now it's free." That's how you position it. And they're like, "Oh, my gosh! I can tell my brother!" And then, "I'm doing this challenge, too! I'm going to invite my friend, and I actually get paid for it?" And so you get them passing it around. They're not looking at it as a business opportunity as much as, "How do you get the thing you just bought for free? How do you get your money back very, very, quickly?" That's the shift. Right? Because they're not going to go sign up 100 people, but they are going to get one or two. Right? And if every person brings in one or two, it becomes this self-fulfilling machine that just keeps growing, and things like that. And so it's just looking at it differently, and just showing... That's the positioning. Right? It's not how to be affiliates. It's, "Get this thing for free by telling three people to-" Dan: So you're not giving them any sort of extensive training? You're just pretty much hoping that one customer will refer, maybe, a couple... few... people. But it's a consistent thing, rather than, "Hey. Here's this training on how to refer more people." And you... But- Russell: Yeah. Because they're not going to buy ads. They're not going to... They don't have an email list. But they're going through this. They believe in it now, and they don't want to feel dumb. And it's like, "If I can get my friends in this and do it together, now it's a fun thing. And we can study together." And that's the- Dan: Oh, the accountability! Oh, my gosh! That's so good! Okay. All right. That was awesome. That was gold. Russell: Awesome. Yhennifer: Light bulbs are going off here! I love it! I hope everyone is taking notes. I want to add one more thing to the OFA stuff, Russell, if it's okay with you? Russell: Yeah. Yhennifer: Because I see what goes on in the Facebook community, and I just wanted to add that people sometimes buy the OFA more than once just because they want the accountability of the coaches. They come back. They see that it has so much value that they're like, "100 dollars? I'm in!" So we also see that as well. Russell: Yeah. The OFA lifers, it's almost a continuity program. They re-sign up every single month, because they don't want to lose the connection with the team! Yhennifer: Yes! Yes. It's amazing. So if you have not done the One Funnel Way, go to onefunnelway.com. It's an awesome, awesome offer. Yhennifer: Okay. We have one more guest here, Michael Hoffman. He's a digital marketer and an owner of a digital media agency. So Michael, what question do you have for Russell? Michael: Hi, everyone! Thanks so much for having me up here. Russell, thanks so much for providing all the value. You mentioned something before, that there was this hashtag, "#dowhatrussellsays." And earlier this year, I read Traffic Secrets, started my podcast. The other day, I finished your new Expert Secrets. I'm going to work on my weekly webinar now. So doing what Russell says actually works! So my question is a little different, and more mindset-related. You have an extensive past in... almost professional sports. You were a wrestler for many, many years. And you made that transition into entrepreneurship. And I have a past as a professional basketball player, and also transitioned into... first, to a full-time job, and then entrepreneurship. And for me, it was a very difficult time to shift my identity. And I just wanted to get your... yeah, basically... experiences on how you experienced that phase, to transition from full-time sports to entrepreneurship, and what helped you to complete this identity shift? Russell: Oh, very cool! It's interesting. I think... Not always, but I feel like athletes often do really good in entrepreneurship. And I think the reason why... I've thought about this a lot... It's because for me, with wrestling... I'm sure it's the same for you with basketball... Every day, for me, I'd step out on the mat. And there was the guy I'm going against. And we'd wrestle. And a lot of times, I lost. A lot of times, I won. But I got used to failure, and it didn't destroy my identity when I failed. Right? I feel like a lot of people get into entrepreneurship, and they're so scared that if they try something and it fails, that it means that they're a failure. Versus in wrestling, I'd fail, and I'm like, "Cool! Now I know how to beat this guy!" Watch the film, figure it out next time I go back, and I try to beat him again. Right? And it's a different mindset where failure meant I could learn something, versus failure meant I was a failure. And I see that so many times in entrepreneurs, where they'll sit in club house rooms, or podcasts, or read books for years, and years, and years, and never do anything, because they're so scared of that failure. Whereas athletes have experienced it. You know? I lost tons of matches! You know? So I'm used to that failure, and I'm okay with it, and I don't label myself as a "failure." So I think that's why athletes do well, just because they have had that experience. But on the other question, that identity shift: So it was interesting. So my wrestling career, that was my life, as you know. It was probably similar to you. I was a wrestler. If you asked me, "Russell, what are you?" I'd go, "I'm a wrestler." And so I was. And I wrestled all the way through college. And I remember at the end of college is when I started learning some of the internet business and figured things out. And my senior year, I ended up losing the Pac-10 Tournament. I thought I was going to go to Nationals and place. And I had... My entire life, I was focused on this goal. And I ended up losing the Pac-10s and not qualifying for the National Tournament my senior year, which was horrible for me. Right? My entire everything just stopped. I remember sitting there on the side of the mat crying, and just... "It's done. I can't even achieve my goal if I wanted to. It's gone! There's no..." It was weird not being able to achieve a goal. And I remember, luckily for me, I had this entrepreneurship thing happening at the time that I was learning about. Because if I didn't have something, I think I would have gone into this downward spiral of depression just knowing that the thing I'd been dreaming about for 20 years, I know longer... It's physically impossible for me to do, now. It's out of... It's impossible. And so for me, luckily, I had this business. And I started focusing my time and energy there. And it gave me something to do, to focus on a new goal. And that was the big goal, the big thing. And so, because I was able to transition pretty easily... Because I had just... I was trying to avoid the pain of my old identity dying, and so I had to shift over here. And so I think, for people who are making that transition, it's... I mean, you used the word "identity shift," which was the right word. Right? It's like you have to shift that identity. And I don't know how to... I mean, in fact, we have Anthony Trucks, who is going to be speaking at Funnel Hacking Live specifically on identity shifting yourself, which I'm excited for. He's geeked out on this at a level that I don't think anyone else really has, and so it's going to be fun to have him go into it on the process. Because I don't know exactly what the process was, other than that I knew that I shifted. And then I started looking at it like a sport. I said, "Okay. What's the goal? What am I going to win?" You know? "Who are my teammates? Who do I got to get to know? Who are the competitors? Who do I have to beat?" And I just used the same mindset. And I think that a lot of people come into business, and they look at it different than a sport, which is interesting when you look at it. It's like, "Oh, I'm here to..." You know? I don't know. I did a podcast three or four years ago. I still remember where I was at when I recorded it, because when we came out with ClickFunnels, for me, it was... It's a combat sport. I'm looking: "Okay, who are the competitors? Who are the people out there?" And at first, it was like, "Leepages! That's who I have to beat!" Because in wrestling, that's what I did: "All right. Who is the guy that I got to beat?" I looked at him. We studied film. We figured it out, and we got to the point where I could beat that person. And we found the next person in the next tier up. We found the person, identified the target, reverse-engineered their style, and learned how to beat them. And so for me, it was the same thing. Leepages was the first person on our hit list. Right? So we came out. And those who were around when we launched ClickFunnels, it was very aggressive. It was not... You know? I was like, "This is our competitors. We're going after them." And we went after them. Then we got to the point where we beat Leepages, and we passed them. After we passed them, it was like, "Hey, who is the next competitor?" For us, it was Infusionsoft. And I was like, "There's no way we can beat Infusionsoft. They're huge!" But I'm like, "That's the goal!" And so we figured out who they were. We reverse-engineered it. You know? Went after them, and ended up far surpassing them. And it was interesting, because I remember the CEO and me... He's a really nice guy. But he messaged me one time, and he asked me... He was like, "Why do you hate Infusionsoft so much?" And I'm like, "I don't hate you! I'm grateful for you! You're the person..." I needed somebody to get me motivated. Otherwise, as a competitor, if I'm just... I'm not here just to make money. That was what inspired. It inspired me. It was the victory, trying to figure out the next person who we're going after. Right? And I told... It's kind of like that scene in Batman, The Dark Knight, where Joker asks Batman, "Why do you hate me?" And he's like, "I don't hate you! You fulfill me! I need you! Without you, there's no me!" Right? And so for me, that was the transition. It was like... I didn't take the competitiveness out of me. I kept it. Everything I did that drove me in wrestling, I kept that. But I focused it over here in business. And so the identity shift wasn't huge. It was just a different game. Right? Same athlete. Same competitive nature. Same everything. But the game was different, and so I had to figure out the game, figure out the rules, figure out the players, figure out the competition, and then make it fun for me. And so for me, that's kind of, I think, how I was able to make that transition. Yeah. I don't know if that answers the question. But that's kind of the mindset behind, for me, how I was going to make that transition. And at Funnel Hacking Live, Anthony Trucks will show us the actual process to shift identity, which I'm so excited for! Michael: Awesome! Thank you so much! That was really helpful, just listening to your experience and hearing it from someone else. And I like the competitive aspect, and the perseverance that we have as athletes to transition that into entrepreneurship. Russell: Yeah. Well, very cool, man. Thanks for jumping on the show. I appreciate it! Yhennifer: Awesome! Thank you, Michael, for being here. And Russell, I think that wraps up our Marketing Secrets podcast today! Russell: How fun! Well, thanks, you guys, all for jumping on and hanging out. We're going to continue to do these. I'm having fun with it so far. So hopefully, you guys are as well. For those who are listening to the recording: If you want to make sure you get on the next live one and maybe get your question answered live, go to clubhousewithrussell.com. That'll redirect you to our clubhouse page. Go follow the room, and we'll do this again soon. Thank you for all of our guest speakers who jumped on: Keenya, Dan, and Myron. I appreciate you guys jumping on and sharing your thoughts, as well. Hopefully, some of the conversations we had were stimulating and helped you think about yourself, think about your charity, think about your funnels, all this stuff. Hopefully, you guys enjoyed it. If you did, let us know! And if you want to hear the recording of this, make sure you subscribe to the Marketing Secrets podcast on any of the platforms. We're there. Probably in the next week or so, it'll go up live there, and you can go and re-listen to all the stuff we talked about. So thank you Yhennifer for all the time and effort you put into it, and everybody else here on the clubhouse team. I'm grateful for everybody. And with that said, I guess we'll see you guys all on the next episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 12 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Clubhouse Q&A - Round 3! full 430 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy another round of questions and answers during a recent Marketing Secrets Live episode. Register for the next Marketing Secrets Live episode at  Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ... Enjoy another round of questions and answers during a recent Marketing Secrets Live episode. Register for the next Marketing Secrets Live episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets Show. During this episode, you're going to have a chance to listen to some of the live Q and A. And this one got really fun. We had some really cool directions and angles that we went on. I think there's something for everybody through this Q and A, so hopefully you enjoy it. On top of that, don't forget: If you want to get your question answered live, make sure you subscribe at clubhousewithrussell.com. It's clubhousewithrussell.com. Go there. Subscribe to the room. And that way, you'll be notified the next time I decide to go live, and you can jump on and get your questions answered. These questions this week were really fun. A lot of different directions. I think you guys will get a lot of value from it. So that said, we'll cue the theme song. When we get back, we'll jump directly into the questions and answers. Yhennifer: Awesome. So our first guest here is Tracy. Tracy is guiding you with tax reduction strategies! All right, Tracy. Thank you so much for being here. What question do you have for Russell? Tracy: Hi, Russell! This is Tracy Lo, and I am so inspired by your stories all the time. I've learned so much from both you from afar, and also Myron. So my question is: How do you keep all your parts moving? Do you have a strategy for keeping your mental state as well as your philanthropy and your business together? What is your strategy? Russell: Oh, that's a great question! I would say I've been lucky, because when I first started this business, it was me trying to figure things out. And I was more chaotic than I am now. Anyone on my team is laughing, because they know that it's still kind of chaos. I think from the outside, things look organized, and things like that. But it's really surrounding myself with a good team of people. People who have a similar mission, who are trying to do the same things that we're doing together. It's having a good team of people. And then a lot of it is just figuring out how to build the things into your routines that'll get you the success you're looking for. Right? So for me, I know that for the first... ah, man... seven to eight years of my entrepreneur journey, I wasn't into health. And so I gained a ton of weight. And I had a... You know? I was more lethargic. I didn't even know I was unhealthy until I decided to start getting in shape and getting back in. And all of a sudden, by getting back in shape, it increased my energy. I felt better. And I was like, "Oh, my gosh! I need to weave this, now, into my routine to make sure I don't lose it again." So it became part of my routine where these things are all tied into it. Right? And so now it's easy, because it's just part of what I do. Mentally: "Okay. How do I stay sharp?" Well, if I'm going to be successful, I get paid to think for a lot of people. So if I'm going to be successful, my mind has got to be sharp. So I got to go listen to podcasts, and read books. And putting myself in situations where I can keep sharp and keep figuring out, "What's working today? What are the things that are working the best?" And so I figure out what all those things are, and then I put them into my schedule. I say, "Okay. I need to build this into my routine where I have time to listen to podcasts, or read books, or go to things that are going to help stimulate my mind so I can stay high there." And then charities. Right? When we decided... It's funny, because I get hit. I'm sure all of you guys here, you're hit by a million people wanting to... "I want to start donating money, maybe, to charities!" And for me, it's like, "I don't want to be the person that just gives money and then forgets about it." I want to make sure the things that I'm passionate about, so... Like Village Impact, we're very passionate about that. So it was like, "Okay. How do we make this part of what we do?" And so it wasn't just like... Give them a check, and then a year later, figure it out. It was like, "Okay. If we're going to do this with them, let's be very strategic about that." So I said, "Okay. Let's..." Todd and I, when we started ClickFunnels, we said, "Okay. Let's set up where every time somebody creates a funnel inside of ClickFunnels and it gets at least 100 visitors..." So it's a live funnel. "We'll donate a dollar to Village Impact." And so we started that seven years ago. And the first year, I think our check we gave them was... I don't know, $15 grand. And then the next year, it was $30 grand. And then $60 grand. And then $100 grand. So it gets bigger and bigger, but it's now part of the mission. So I don't have to think about it, because it's built into what we're doing. And now every year at Funnel Hacking Live, I'm like, "Stu and Amy, come on stage!" And we have a big old check. You know? Now, it's six-figure checks. And they get bigger. And it's eventually going to be seven-figure checks. But it's built into what we're doing, and so I don't have to think about it again. You know? O.U.R. is the same thing. We did the big launch where we launched with the documentary, and it did well, but then it wasn't consistent. So we're building a whole platform now that'll be a consistency thing, where it's now that... This mission is always being worked on, because there's a platform, and there's someone in charge of it. There's a team member who... that becomes their sole focus. And now it's weaved into it. So it's figuring out the things that are important to you that help you achieve the goals you want, and then figuring out... How do you weave those things into your routine, or your business model, or your whatever, so that it just happens and you don't have to think about it? Because it's too hard. We have so many things we're all doing. If you have to have the mental power to think about it every time, then nothing ever happens. So that's kind of how I do it. And I hope that helps. And it's also surrounding yourself by amazing humans who help fulfill those missions as well. Tracy: Thanks so much, Russell. This is Tracy Lo, CPA, passing the mic. Thank you. Russell: Awesome! Thank you, Tracy. Appreciate it. Yhennifer: All right. Thank you for being here, Tracy. Now we're going to go on to Jermaine. Jermaine is in the real estate industry. Jermaine, what question do you have for Russell? Jermaine: Hey, Russell! Hey, everyone! I just had a quick question. I was wondering... Well, I got two questions. The first one: I didn't quite catch that book that you recommended? Russell: Was it Atlas Shrugged? Jermaine: What was that again? Russell: Atlas Shrugged. Jermaine: Yep. That's it. Russell: It's a really big book, so it takes commitment. It's insanely big. But as an entrepreneur and producer, you will love it. Especially in the real estate market. Jermaine: Okay. And I also wanted to know... while I have you... I wanted to know: Throughout all your time that you've changed the world and inspired people, what was your biggest business challenge that you had to overcome? And how did you overcome it? Russell: Oh, that's a great question! You know what's interesting, is that at every level, there's a new challenge. And so it changes. And every time when you're going through it, it seems like the biggest thing in the world. And when you look back, it's like, "Oh, that was actually really simple." But in the heat of the moment, it's hard. For the beginning part, it was just me believing that I was worth it. Right? I was the kid who struggled in school. I was never that smart. The only thing I was ever good at was wrestling. And I'm trying to start a business, and then I had a million doubts of, "I'm not worthy. I don't know how to do this. I'm not smart enough. I don't..." At the time, I didn't like to read! You know? First, it's that mental battle. I think for most entrepreneurs when they start their journey, it's the mental battle of just believing that you're worth it, that you can actually do it. And so for me, that one took a while. And then when I finally was like, "Oh, my gosh. I'm not..." I always thought I was a dumb kid growing up, because I struggled in school. So I remember having the realization after I started having success. I was like, "Oh, my gosh. I'm not dumb! I can learn things! If I'm interested in the book, I can actually read it and enjoy it!" So that was the first big hurdle for me. Right? The next one was... As I got to a point in my business that was like... It was just me, and I was juggling a million things. I was like, "Okay. How do I... I can't keep doing this. I'm going to drown eventually." So I was bringing on employees to the team. And man, I can't tell you how bad I was at that! I hired all my friends. All my friends, I just hired initially, because I was like, "Oh. They're cool. I'll hang out with them!" So I hired all my friends. It turns out my friends are morons... No, I'm just kidding! Well, kind of. Some of them were... But no, I love them all. But it was like I hired all my friends, and they didn't know what to do. And I didn't know how to teach them. So I was like... Dude, I was working while they were all goofing off in the other room. And they wanted help, but I couldn't teach them, because I was too busy trying to make money to pay them. And so it took me years to figure out, "How do you get a team and get the right people in place?" And that was the next big challenge. Right? Then it was like, "How do you actually create something that's not just an offer?" Right? That could be a long-standing business. We tried for years to figure that out. And eventually, ClickFunnels was the business that became more than just an offer for me where it was like, "Oh, my gosh. This is a platform, something that can grow bigger." And then inside of that, there has been so many challenges. How do you scale a company like that? You know? How do you scale the support? How do you go from five employees to 500 employees? There's just different challenges to every step. And so I think that there's been a lot of them. But the biggest thing I would say is that the key that I find at every tier, the thing... It took me a while to figure this out initially. And now, I've gotten better at realizing, "Oh, the pattern to solve these is always the same." It is... You can call it "funnel hacking," call it, "modeling," whatever it is... is I try to always connect to the people that are a tier above me or two tiers above me. Right? So right now, we're trying to... I literally am paying somebody who's gone here, done this. And we do a one-hour call every other week with him. He's built multiple companies, software companies, to the billion-dollar mark. And so he's been down the path. And so we get on a call. I'm like, "Okay. Here's where we're stuck. What am I going to do? What would you do?" And I'm asking questions and modeling, like, "Hey. Show me three businesses that have done what you're talking about." And he'll show me. We'll find it. And we look at it, and we reverse-engineer it. We come back and apply it. And so the key is just really figuring out... It's modeling. It's figuring out who's already done the thing you're doing. Find that person. Pay them money. Get to know them. Join their coaching. But whatever it is, get around the people who have already done the thing you're trying to do. Because for them, it's simple. Right? For us, as we're going through it, it's really, really difficult. But the person who's already done it, looking back, it's simple. For me, now, the mindset and belief of, "I can do this," is simple now. I get it. I can help somebody with that really, really easily. Whereas in the moment, it was impossible. It felt impossible. Right? Launching a software company felt like an impossible moment, and now it's super easy. So it's finding people who... The thing you're struggling with now is super easy, because they've already done it multiple times. Getting around them. Hiring them. Paying them. And learning how to think like them. Right? It's always a shift in thinking and belief. And so it's coming back and saying, "Okay. I've got to think like them. I've got to believe like them." I think a lot of times, many of us... and I see this a lot with people who hire me... they hire me, or they hire a coach, and then they try to get the coach to believe or think like they do. And I'm the opposite: I'm not coming to you to try to influence your beliefs. I'm coming to you to change my beliefs. And that's a hard thing to do. Right? Our ego gets in the way a lot of times. So it's coming and saying, "Okay. I'm a blank slate. I'm going to do whatever you say." In fact, it's funny, because inside our community, we have the... Kaelin Poulin started it with the whole hashtag, #dowhatrussellsays. And at first, I was really embarrassed by it. But now, it's so cool! Because it's like, "Yeah. If you're hiring me to be your coach, just do what I say!" If I hire a coach, I just do what they say. I literally just... In fact, I'm working on my fourth book right now. And I have a quote. One of my friends wrote this in a blog post. He was talking about his morning routine, and why he does this really weird thing. And he says in the thing, he said, "People ask me why I do this." He said, "Because Tony Robbins told me so, and I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence." And so for me, it's always been this joke: Now, when I hire a coach, whatever they say, I say, "I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence." Right? If I hire someone, I just believe them inherently, because I did the work ahead of time to see if I'm going to believe them. If I believe them, I give them my money. And I do whatever they say, and I don't deviate from that. Right? So people in my world say hashtag, "#dowhatrussellsays." For me, it's hashtag, "#dowhatstevencollinssays." That's the guy who I hired right now who is mentoring me. Whatever he says, I just do it. I don't fight. I don't question. He's been there a million times. And so I just do what all giant... You know? I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. I obey whoever I pay to teach me something, because they know what I don't know. And so for me, that's kind of the process: Find the hurdle. Find out who's already done it. Get that person. And then obey them, and just follow what they say to a T. So I hope that helps. Jermaine: That made perfect sense. So you basically trust yourself, and then you do what your coaches say? Russell: 100 percent. Yep! I do the work ahead of time. Before I hire the coach, I got to make sure I believe this coach is right. But if I believe they're right, then yes, I just do whatever they say. And so I see people, sometimes, blindly will sign up for coaching, or they'll hire a mentor, or whatever. And then they just kind of blindly follow the person. The person might not be right for them. But I do the homework ahead of time. And then when I know, "Okay. I'm committed. This is the person." Then I go all in, and I just put on blinders and follow them. Jermaine: Got you. I appreciate that. What was that book again? I'm going to have to write that down. Russell: Atlas Shrugged. So the way to remember it is Atlas is the god that's holding the weight of the world on his shoulders. And the premise of the book is: The producers, the entrepreneurs, people like us who are trying to... We're literally holding the weight of the world on our shoulders. Right? We're creating companies. We're creating jobs, and doing all these things. What would happen if Atlas just shrugged and walked away from his responsibilities? So the book is about that. What happens when the producers get so much pressure from government and society where it's no longer worth it to them, so they shrug, and they walk away from their responsibilities? And so that's the premise of the book, which is so fascinating. I'm actually listening to it again right now, which is fun. But it's a 1500-page book. It's intense. If you listen to the audiobook, it's eight audiobooks. That's how big it is. But man, it's worth it! Jermaine: I'm going to grab both of them right now. I've got all of your books. I've been following you for a while. My favorite one is the DotCom Secrets. Russell: Oh, very cool! Thanks, man! I appreciate that. Yhennifer: Awesome! Thank you. Jermaine: You're welcome. Yhennifer: ... Jermaine. Thank you for being here today. I'm going to reset the room really quickly. We are, right now, listening to the Marketing Secrets Live podcast. This room is actually being recorded. Make sure you follow the house at the top so that you can get a notification when Russell goes live again here. Now, we are going to give the mic to Jeff. Welcome, Jeff! He is a product launch expert, has made over $8 million from 22 launches in three years. What question do you have for Russell, Jeff? Russell: What's up, Jeff? Jeff: Hey, Russell! What's going on, buddy? Russell: Good to hear from you. Jeff: So hey, being in your inner circle for the last five years, I've had the awesome pleasure of watching all the big house marketing initiatives that you've incorporated into the funnels that you and the rest of the ClickFunnels community launched, and also at your annual Funnel Hacking Live event with Village Impact and O.U.R., as you mentioned. So what's been cool to see is the more funnels and events you launch, the more you're able to give back, which is awesome. So how are you thinking about incorporating that live launch strategy that you've been doing with, perhaps, more of an evergreen launch strategy now? With things like OFA, your quarterly Two Comma Club Live virtual event, and now the DotCom Secrets Summit that you just launched, with some of these... trying to also bring in these new live launches. I know you have Funnel Hacking Live coming up in a few months. Can you just talk about... Each month, what are you looking at in terms of evergreen versus live? Russell: Yeah. That's a good question. That's something we could talk about for a long time. You know? I think it's interesting. I watch somebody like Tony Robbins, who... He does UPW four times a year. He does Date with Destiny twice a year. And he does these things. And he's been doing it live for decades now. Three or four decades, he's been doing these events. If you go to them, they're very similar every single time. And for me, it's tough, because if I go back and I teach the same thing twice, I want to pull my hair out! You know? And I'm like, "I don't know how Tony has been so consistent for so long." And so for me, it's like there's this blend. Right? There's things that... The DotCom Secrets book came from me from a decade of me teaching these principles. I was doing events, and speaking at other people's events, and teaching these principles. And finally, I was like, "If I have to tell this story about the value ladder one more time, I'm going to kill myself." Right? So that's when I finally was like, "I'm going to write a book." So I wrote a book. And it was like, "Here it is. It's now evergreen. I can give it to people. And I don't want to talk about this thing again." Right? A similar thing happened with Expert Secrets. And you were in the inner circle, and I was... We spent three years geeking out on webinars, and conversions, and psychology, and all this kind of stuff. And I was like, "I don't ever want to talk about this again." So I turned it into a book. And I was like, "Hey, there's the blueprint!" And so I look at the online stuff through a very similar way. Right? We did the Two Comma Club Live event that first time, and then my energy was there. I was excited. It was fun. We created it. We launched it. It was amazing! But then, I was like... For me, it's like art. I didn't want to just be like, "Hey, it's done!" And walk away from it. But I didn't want to teach it again. So it's like, "Okay. How do I turn this experience into something that's now evergreen?" That we can keep the message going on. Right? So that when I'm dead and gone, my kids can keep running the ads, and keep running the event, and it'll keep producing. Because for me, all the stuff we do is art. And so I want to sustain it. So I'm always looking: Is there something I can do that I can create it, but then it'll last? It'll live beyond myself. Right? If you've read Ryan Holiday's book, The Perennial Seller... In fact, he spoke last year at Funnel Hacking Live about that book. I was like, "I want you to talk about Perennial Seller!" He was like, "I've written eight books since then!" I was like, "I know, but that's my favorite one! You've got to talk about that." But in Perennial Seller, he talks about the difference between art that lasts forever versus stuff that happens and is gone. Right? A good example is in movies. Right? Avatar, for a long time, was the greatest selling movie of all time. But if you ask someone to quote an Avatar line, there's not a person on this Earth who can remember anything from that movie. Right? It was a great seller, but then it died. Right? And so many people in our industry do a big sell, and then it dies. And it disappears. Versus you create a movie like Star Wars, where it lives beyond itself... It has legacy. It's a perennial seller. It'll continue to do well for a million years from now. Or you have TV shows. Right? You look at Seinfeld versus Friends: Friends was very much successful in the moment, but then it hasn't lived on as well as something like Seinfeld, which has lived on in perpetuity for so long. Much more of a perennial seller. And so I was always trying to create things that could be perennial sellers. And so when I do do something like that where I think it can last beyond itself, where things are strategic enough that they're not tactical, and they're going to change. Where they're strategic and we can do it, I want those things to live forever. So again, that's the Summits. That's the Two Comma Club Live, and things like that. But then we have our big hits. Right? Funnel Hacking Live, it's a big show. It's what's working now. You know? We put all this energy and this effort into it, but we know it's a one-time show. Right? And it happens. It's done. It's over. And then next year, we're going to plan a new one. And we can't evergreen Funnel Hacking Live. Right? It's a little bit different. And so it's just looking at those kind of things. You know? Sometimes, you're going to have an Avatar hit. And you should totally go and take the 100 billion dollars it makes and cash it, because that's awesome. But other things you create, you want the longevity. And so for me, that's how I'm looking at things. It's just like, "Okay. What things have longevity? What things do I want to be a perennial seller? What things do I think can last just beyond a product launch or beyond a thing?" And as soon as it's done, then it's like, "Okay. How do we morph that into something now that can last beyond the moment?" So that's kind of how I look at things in my head, how I figure things out. And then on top of that, it's just... You know? We're still kind of figuring it out. So some things, we're finding that we launch and we make the perennial version, they don't last long. They're still there. So people can find them, but they're not... The longevity is not there. We can't continue to buy ads to it. Whereas One Funnel Way, it's crazy! To this day, One Funnel Way has been running almost three years now. We fill up 1500 every two weeks to a 100 dollar, paid challenge. And it continues to convert. It continues to work. It continues to... That one is, of all the things we've done, the most perennial, and just continues to work. And I wouldn't have guessed that going into it until we tried to make the evergreen version. And it kept working. And it's like, "Oh, my gosh! This is amazing!" So yeah. I don't know if that answers the question. But kind of... That's how I think through things, and how I'm looking at stuff. Myron: Can I ask you a question about that, Russell? Russell: Yeah, Myron! I'd love to. Myron: What advertising methodologies are you using to put 1500 people in a challenge every two weeks? Because that sounds phenomenal! Russell: Yeah! A couple things: Number one is we pay 100 percent affiliate commission. So the only people who go through it refer people, and it's 100 bucks, and they get 100 percent of that 100 bucks. Number two is that I can spend 100... I can lose money. So I can spend 150, 200 dollars to sell a challenge. So I can spend a lot of money to do it, because again, 100 percent of the money goes directly back into advertising. We're not trying to make money on the challenge. As you know, all the money is in the back. And amateurs focus on the front end. So we liquidate it. 100 percent of our money goes into the ad spin. And number three, I think, is just... The message is right. For some reason, that message, it lives long. Right? The people, if it's their very first time... You look at the headline. It's like, "If you want to launch your first or your next funnel." So if it's their first one, it's like, "Oh, this is going to help me." Number two, it's like if you've launched a funnel but, "I need to go back and do this again," it gives you a chance to review it and go back through it. And I'd say the last thing is we weave that theme into all of our offers now. If you look at everything, every offer leads back to OFA. You buy all my books? OFA is in that sales flow. You do one of our challenges, it leads back to OFA. So it's weaved into everything now. So it's plugged into the back end of everything we're doing. And so no matter what somebody buys, all roads lead to the One Funnel Way challenge eventually, which is pretty cool. Myron: Wow! Russell: Yeah. And we're working on, now- Myron: Great stuff. Russell: We're working on a One Funnel Away e-commerce version of the OFA challenge next, which I'm really excited for as well. So anyway- Dan: And you do that live every two weeks? Russell: So I don't. I recorded it live once. And we have a team, now, though. So we have a team of... One person runs it, and three or four coaches. And so every week, they reset a new Facebook group. And then they're in there full-time answering questions. And then they stream. The trades that were live at one time, they stream them into the Facebook group. And all the interaction happens there. So it feels very alive. People know it's not alive, but it feels very live. It's executed live. It's not like logging the members in and watch... Day-one videos. We try to replicate the experience as close as possible. And again, it's not just like, "Go watch this video and hope for the best." Literally, they watch the video, and then there's coaches in there who are answering questions, who are getting them to do the homework, who are... Full-time, their job is in there, now. Because it's been so profitable for us, man, we left... I always tell people: One of the biggest problems that us entrepreneurs have is we create something and then we move on to the next thing. And OFA was the first thing that our group created it, and were like, "There's something magic here." And we left somebody behind. So Shane on our team, we left him behind and said, "Your job is to continue to make this better and to run it." And then he hired three or four coaches, and now there's a team of people who, full-time, all they do is make sure OFA is happening, and it's consistent, and it works. And because we left somebody behind, that's why the fulfillment continues to improve week after week, although I'm not creating new content week after week. Dan: And it converts similar with the streaming replay as it did with you doing it live? Russell: Yeah. Yeah. Dan: That's- Russell: It was easier to sell people in initially: "Yeah, go sign up for it! Go to onefunnelway.com and watch the process!" But yes- Dan: That's what I'm going to do right now. Russell: 100 percent. 100 percent. And like I said, three years, we've been running that thing. We launched initially, and then we did it live again four or five months ago just to kind of refresh the whole thing. But other than that, it's the same thing. And it runs on autopilot. Dan: And the affiliate aspect is really important, because everybody that comes in, you then say, "Hey. Do you want to make money? Did you love this challenge? Bring somebody in." And they get a commission. Can I just ask one question about that? Russell: Yeah. Let me give one clarity, and then ask the question. So the clarity is- Dan: Yeah. Russell: also right when they first come in. It's like, "You paid 100 bucks for this. Do you want this to be free? Invite a friend." It's right when they sign up. It's like, "Bring by a friend," and now it's free for them, because they just get one person to sign up, and now it's free. Dan: Okay. That... Okay. So that's my question, is: You guys have really, truly went just deep in the affiliate game. And I almost feel like, sometimes, going all-in on the affiliate game is like... I'd rather pay my customers and my clients than pay Zuckerberg. Do you know what I mean? Honestly! And so my question to you, on that, is: How do you train somebody who is a normal customer, who is not an affiliate or a traditional super affiliate, to actually refer people to you? Obviously, you have to tell them, "Hey, here's how you refer people." What's your best tip for that? Russell: Yeah. The best tip is you have to think about it differently. A lot of people are thinking about, "I'm going to make him an affiliate, and teach him about affiliate marketing!" And the average customer, they're not going to be an affiliate. Right? You look at... The people in e-com space do this really well, a lot of times, and other places, where it's... The position is not how to make a bunch of money as an affiliate. The position is, "How do you get this product for free?" Right? It's like, "Hey. You get three people to sign up for this, or..." You know? Whatever. For me, it's like, "You get one person to sign up, and now it's free." That's how you position it. And they're like, "Oh, my gosh! I can tell my brother!" And then, "I'm doing this challenge, too! I'm going to invite my friend, and I actually get paid for it?" And so you get them passing it around. They're not looking at it as a business opportunity as much as, "How do you get the thing you just bought for free? How do you get your money back very, very, quickly?" That's the shift. Right? Because they're not going to go sign up 100 people, but they are going to get one or two. Right? And if every person brings in one or two, it becomes this self-fulfilling machine that just keeps growing, and things like that. And so it's just looking at it differently, and just showing... That's the positioning. Right? It's not how to be affiliates. It's, "Get this thing for free by telling three people to-" Dan: So you're not giving them any sort of extensive training? You're just pretty much hoping that one customer will refer, maybe, a couple... few... people. But it's a consistent thing, rather than, "Hey. Here's this training on how to refer more people." And you... But- Russell: Yeah. Because they're not going to buy ads. They're not going to... They don't have an email list. But they're going through this. They believe in it now, and they don't want to feel dumb. And it's like, "If I can get my friends in this and do it together, now it's a fun thing. And we can study together." And that's the- Dan: Oh, the accountability! Oh, my gosh! That's so good! Okay. All right. That was awesome. That was gold. Russell: Awesome. Yhennifer: Light bulbs are going off here! I love it! I hope everyone is taking notes. I want to add one more thing to the OFA stuff, Russell, if it's okay with you? Russell: Yeah. Yhennifer: Because I see what goes on in the Facebook community, and I just wanted to add that people sometimes buy the OFA more than once just because they want the accountability of the coaches. They come back. They see that it has so much value that they're like, "100 dollars? I'm in!" So we also see that as well. Russell: Yeah. The OFA lifers, it's almost a continuity program. They re-sign up every single month, because they don't want to lose the connection with the team! Yhennifer: Yes! Yes. It's amazing. So if you have not done the One Funnel Way, go to onefunnelway.com. It's an awesome, awesome offer. Yhennifer: Okay. We have one more guest here, Michael Hoffman. He's a digital marketer and an owner of a digital media agency. So Michael, what question do you have for Russell? Michael: Hi, everyone! Thanks so much for having me up here. Russell, thanks so much for providing all the value. You mentioned something before, that there was this hashtag, "#dowhatrussellsays." And earlier this year, I read Traffic Secrets, started my podcast. The other day, I finished your new Expert Secrets. I'm going to work on my weekly webinar now. So doing what Russell says actually works! So my question is a little different, and more mindset-related. You have an extensive past in... almost professional sports. You were a wrestler for many, many years. And you made that transition into entrepreneurship. And I have a past as a professional basketball player, and also transitioned into... first, to a full-time job, and then entrepreneurship. And for me, it was a very difficult time to shift my identity. And I just wanted to get your... yeah, basically... experiences on how you experienced that phase, to transition from full-time sports to entrepreneurship, and what helped you to complete this identity shift? Russell: Oh, very cool! It's interesting. I think... Not always, but I feel like athletes often do really good in entrepreneurship. And I think the reason why... I've thought about this a lot... It's because for me, with wrestling... I'm sure it's the same for you with basketball... Every day, for me, I'd step out on the mat. And there was the guy I'm going against. And we'd wrestle. And a lot of times, I lost. A lot of times, I won. But I got used to failure, and it didn't destroy my identity when I failed. Right? I feel like a lot of people get into entrepreneurship, and they're so scared that if they try something and it fails, that it means that they're a failure. Versus in wrestling, I'd fail, and I'm like, "Cool! Now I know how to beat this guy!" Watch the film, figure it out next time I go back, and I try to beat him again. Right? And it's a different mindset where failure meant I could learn something, versus failure meant I was a failure. And I see that so many times in entrepreneurs, where they'll sit in club house rooms, or podcasts, or read books for years, and years, and years, and never do anything, because they're so scared of that failure. Whereas athletes have experienced it. You know? I lost tons of matches! You know? So I'm used to that failure, and I'm okay with it, and I don't label myself as a "failure." So I think that's why athletes do well, just because they have had that experience. But on the other question, that identity shift: So it was interesting. So my wrestling career, that was my life, as you know. It was probably similar to you. I was a wrestler. If you asked me, "Russell, what are you?" I'd go, "I'm a wrestler." And so I was. And I wrestled all the way through college. And I remember at the end of college is when I started learning some of the internet business and figured things out. And my senior year, I ended up losing the Pac-10 Tournament. I thought I was going to go to Nationals and place. And I had... My entire life, I was focused on this goal. And I ended up losing the Pac-10s and not qualifying for the National Tournament my senior year, which was horrible for me. Right? My entire everything just stopped. I remember sitting there on the side of the mat crying, and just... "It's done. I can't even achieve my goal if I wanted to. It's gone! There's no..." It was weird not being able to achieve a goal. And I remember, luckily for me, I had this entrepreneurship thing happening at the time that I was learning about. Because if I didn't have something, I think I would have gone into this downward spiral of depression just knowing that the thing I'd been dreaming about for 20 years, I know longer... It's physically impossible for me to do, now. It's out of... It's impossible. And so for me, luckily, I had this business. And I started focusing my time and energy there. And it gave me something to do, to focus on a new goal. And that was the big goal, the big thing. And so, because I was able to transition pretty easily... Because I had just... I was trying to avoid the pain of my old identity dying, and so I had to shift over here. And so I think, for people who are making that transition, it's... I mean, you used the word "identity shift," which was the right word. Right? It's like you have to shift that identity. And I don't know how to... I mean, in fact, we have Anthony Trucks, who is going to be speaking at Funnel Hacking Live specifically on identity shifting yourself, which I'm excited for. He's geeked out on this at a level that I don't think anyone else really has, and so it's going to be fun to have him go into it on the process. Because I don't know exactly what the process was, other than that I knew that I shifted. And then I started looking at it like a sport. I said, "Okay. What's the goal? What am I going to win?" You know? "Who are my teammates? Who do I got to get to know? Who are the competitors? Who do I have to beat?" And I just used the same mindset. And I think that a lot of people come into business, and they look at it different than a sport, which is interesting when you look at it. It's like, "Oh, I'm here to..." You know? I don't know. I did a podcast three or four years ago. I still remember where I was at when I recorded it, because when we came out with ClickFunnels, for me, it was... It's a combat sport. I'm looking: "Okay, who are the competitors? Who are the people out there?" And at first, it was like, "Leepages! That's who I have to beat!" Because in wrestling, that's what I did: "All right. Who is the guy that I got to beat?" I looked at him. We studied film. We figured it out, and we got to the point where I could beat that person. And we found the next person in the next tier up. We found the person, identified the target, reverse-engineered their style, and learned how to beat them. And so for me, it was the same thing. Leepages was the first person on our hit list. Right? So we came out. And those who were around when we launched ClickFunnels, it was very aggressive. It was not... You know? I was like, "This is our competitors. We're going after them." And we went after them. Then we got to the point where we beat Leepages, and we passed them. After we passed them, it was like, "Hey, who is the next competitor?" For us, it was Infusionsoft. And I was like, "There's no way we can beat Infusionsoft. They're huge!" But I'm like, "That's the goal!" And so we figured out who they were. We reverse-engineered it. You know? Went after them, and ended up far surpassing them. And it was interesting, because I remember the CEO and me... He's a really nice guy. But he messaged me one time, and he asked me... He was like, "Why do you hate Infusionsoft so much?" And I'm like, "I don't hate you! I'm grateful for you! You're the person..." I needed somebody to get me motivated. Otherwise, as a competitor, if I'm just... I'm not here just to make money. That was what inspired. It inspired me. It was the victory, trying to figure out the next person who we're going after. Right? And I told... It's kind of like that scene in Batman, The Dark Knight, where Joker asks Batman, "Why do you hate me?" And he's like, "I don't hate you! You fulfill me! I need you! Without you, there's no me!" Right? And so for me, that was the transition. It was like... I didn't take the competitiveness out of me. I kept it. Everything I did that drove me in wrestling, I kept that. But I focused it over here in business. And so the identity shift wasn't huge. It was just a different game. Right? Same athlete. Same competitive nature. Same everything. But the game was different, and so I had to figure out the game, figure out the rules, figure out the players, figure out the competition, and then make it fun for me. And so for me, that's kind of, I think, how I was able to make that transition. Yeah. I don't know if that answers the question. But that's kind of the mindset behind, for me, how I was going to make that transition. And at Funnel Hacking Live, Anthony Trucks will show us the actual process to shift identity, which I'm so excited for! Michael: Awesome! Thank you so much! That was really helpful, just listening to your experience and hearing it from someone else. And I like the competitive aspect, and the perseverance that we have as athletes to transition that into entrepreneurship. Russell: Yeah. Well, very cool, man. Thanks for jumping on the show. I appreciate it! Yhennifer: Awesome! Thank you, Michael, for being here. And Russell, I think that wraps up our Marketing Secrets podcast today! Russell: How fun! Well, thanks, you guys, all for jumping on and hanging out. We're going to continue to do these. I'm having fun with it so far. So hopefully, you guys are as well. For those who are listening to the recording: If you want to make sure you get on the next live one and maybe get your question answered live, go to clubhousewithrussell.com. That'll redirect you to our clubhouse page. Go follow the room, and we'll do this again soon. Thank you for all of our guest speakers who jumped on: Keenya, Dan, and Myron. I appreciate you guys jumping on and sharing your thoughts, as well. Hopefully, some of the conversations we had were stimulating and helped you think about yourself, think about your charity, think about your funnels, all this stuff. Hopefully, you guys enjoyed it. If you did, let us know! 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Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets Show. During this episode, you're going to have a chance to listen to some of the live Q and A. And this one got really fun. We had some really cool directions and angles that we went on. I think there's something for everybody through this Q and A, so hopefully you enjoy it.

On top of that, don't forget: If you want to get your question answered live, make sure you subscribe at clubhousewithrussell.com. It's clubhousewithrussell.com. Go there. Subscribe to the room. And that way, you'll be notified the next time I decide to go live, and you can jump on and get your questions answered.

These questions this week were really fun. A lot of different directions. I think you guys will get a lot of value from it. So that said, we'll cue the theme song. When we get back, we'll jump directly into the questions and answers.

Yhennifer: Awesome. So our first guest here is Tracy. Tracy is guiding you with tax reduction strategies! All right, Tracy. Thank you so much for being here. What question do you have for Russell?

Tracy: Hi, Russell! This is Tracy Lo, and I am so inspired by your stories all the time. I've learned so much from both you from afar, and also Myron.

So my question is: How do you keep all your parts moving? Do you have a strategy for keeping your mental state as well as your philanthropy and your business together? What is your strategy?

Russell: Oh, that's a great question! I would say I've been lucky, because when I first started this business, it was me trying to figure things out. And I was more chaotic than I am now. Anyone on my team is laughing, because they know that it's still kind of chaos. I think from the outside, things look organized, and things like that.

But it's really surrounding myself with a good team of people. People who have a similar mission, who are trying to do the same things that we're doing together. It's having a good team of people.

And then a lot of it is just figuring out how to build the things into your routines that'll get you the success you're looking for. Right? So for me, I know that for the first... ah, man... seven to eight years of my entrepreneur journey, I wasn't into health. And so I gained a ton of weight. And I had a... You know? I was more lethargic. I didn't even know I was unhealthy until I decided to start getting in shape and getting back in.

And all of a sudden, by getting back in shape, it increased my energy. I felt better. And I was like, "Oh, my gosh! I need to weave this, now, into my routine to make sure I don't lose it again." So it became part of my routine where these things are all tied into it. Right? And so now it's easy, because it's just part of what I do.

Mentally: "Okay. How do I stay sharp?" Well, if I'm going to be successful, I get paid to think for a lot of people. So if I'm going to be successful, my mind has got to be sharp. So I got to go listen to podcasts, and read books. And putting myself in situations where I can keep sharp and keep figuring out, "What's working today? What are the things that are working the best?"

And so I figure out what all those things are, and then I put them into my schedule. I say, "Okay. I need to build this into my routine where I have time to listen to podcasts, or read books, or go to things that are going to help stimulate my mind so I can stay high there."

And then charities. Right? When we decided... It's funny, because I get hit. I'm sure all of you guys here, you're hit by a million people wanting to... "I want to start donating money, maybe, to charities!" And for me, it's like, "I don't want to be the person that just gives money and then forgets about it." I want to make sure the things that I'm passionate about, so... Like Village Impact, we're very passionate about that. So it was like, "Okay. How do we make this part of what we do?"

And so it wasn't just like... Give them a check, and then a year later, figure it out. It was like, "Okay. If we're going to do this with them, let's be very strategic about that." So I said, "Okay. Let's..." Todd and I, when we started ClickFunnels, we said, "Okay. Let's set up where every time somebody creates a funnel inside of ClickFunnels and it gets at least 100 visitors..." So it's a live funnel. "We'll donate a dollar to Village Impact."

And so we started that seven years ago. And the first year, I think our check we gave them was... I don't know, $15 grand. And then the next year, it was $30 grand. And then $60 grand. And then $100 grand. So it gets bigger and bigger, but it's now part of the mission. So I don't have to think about it, because it's built into what we're doing.

And now every year at Funnel Hacking Live, I'm like, "Stu and Amy, come on stage!" And we have a big old check. You know? Now, it's six-figure checks. And they get bigger. And it's eventually going to be seven-figure checks.

But it's built into what we're doing, and so I don't have to think about it again. You know? O.U.R. is the same thing. We did the big launch where we launched with the documentary, and it did well, but then it wasn't consistent. So we're building a whole platform now that'll be a consistency thing, where it's now that... This mission is always being worked on, because there's a platform, and there's someone in charge of it. There's a team member who... that becomes their sole focus. And now it's weaved into it.

So it's figuring out the things that are important to you that help you achieve the goals you want, and then figuring out... How do you weave those things into your routine, or your business model, or your whatever, so that it just happens and you don't have to think about it? Because it's too hard. We have so many things we're all doing. If you have to have the mental power to think about it every time, then nothing ever happens.

So that's kind of how I do it. And I hope that helps. And it's also surrounding yourself by amazing humans who help fulfill those missions as well.

Tracy: Thanks so much, Russell. This is Tracy Lo, CPA, passing the mic. Thank you.

Russell: Awesome! Thank you, Tracy. Appreciate it.

Yhennifer: All right. Thank you for being here, Tracy. Now we're going to go on to Jermaine. Jermaine is in the real estate industry. Jermaine, what question do you have for Russell?

Jermaine: Hey, Russell! Hey, everyone! I just had a quick question. I was wondering... Well, I got two questions. The first one: I didn't quite catch that book that you recommended?

Russell: Was it Atlas Shrugged?

Jermaine: What was that again?

Russell: Atlas Shrugged.

Jermaine: Yep. That's it.

Russell: It's a really big book, so it takes commitment. It's insanely big. But as an entrepreneur and producer, you will love it. Especially in the real estate market.

Jermaine: Okay. And I also wanted to know... while I have you... I wanted to know: Throughout all your time that you've changed the world and inspired people, what was your biggest business challenge that you had to overcome? And how did you overcome it?

Russell: Oh, that's a great question! You know what's interesting, is that at every level, there's a new challenge. And so it changes.

And every time when you're going through it, it seems like the biggest thing in the world. And when you look back, it's like, "Oh, that was actually really simple." But in the heat of the moment, it's hard.

For the beginning part, it was just me believing that I was worth it. Right? I was the kid who struggled in school. I was never that smart. The only thing I was ever good at was wrestling.

And I'm trying to start a business, and then I had a million doubts of, "I'm not worthy. I don't know how to do this. I'm not smart enough. I don't..." At the time, I didn't like to read! You know? First, it's that mental battle.

I think for most entrepreneurs when they start their journey, it's the mental battle of just believing that you're worth it, that you can actually do it. And so for me, that one took a while.

And then when I finally was like, "Oh, my gosh. I'm not..." I always thought I was a dumb kid growing up, because I struggled in school. So I remember having the realization after I started having success. I was like, "Oh, my gosh. I'm not dumb! I can learn things! If I'm interested in the book, I can actually read it and enjoy it!" So that was the first big hurdle for me. Right?

The next one was... As I got to a point in my business that was like... It was just me, and I was juggling a million things. I was like, "Okay. How do I... I can't keep doing this. I'm going to drown eventually." So I was bringing on employees to the team. And man, I can't tell you how bad I was at that! I hired all my friends. All my friends, I just hired initially, because I was like, "Oh. They're cool. I'll hang out with them!" So I hired all my friends.

It turns out my friends are morons... No, I'm just kidding! Well, kind of. Some of them were... But no, I love them all. But it was like I hired all my friends, and they didn't know what to do. And I didn't know how to teach them. So I was like... Dude, I was working while they were all goofing off in the other room. And they wanted help, but I couldn't teach them, because I was too busy trying to make money to pay them.

And so it took me years to figure out, "How do you get a team and get the right people in place?" And that was the next big challenge. Right?

Then it was like, "How do you actually create something that's not just an offer?" Right? That could be a long-standing business. We tried for years to figure that out. And eventually, ClickFunnels was the business that became more than just an offer for me where it was like, "Oh, my gosh. This is a platform, something that can grow bigger."

And then inside of that, there has been so many challenges. How do you scale a company like that? You know? How do you scale the support? How do you go from five employees to 500 employees? There's just different challenges to every step.

And so I think that there's been a lot of them. But the biggest thing I would say is that the key that I find at every tier, the thing... It took me a while to figure this out initially. And now, I've gotten better at realizing, "Oh, the pattern to solve these is always the same." It is... You can call it "funnel hacking," call it, "modeling," whatever it is... is I try to always connect to the people that are a tier above me or two tiers above me. Right?

So right now, we're trying to... I literally am paying somebody who's gone here, done this. And we do a one-hour call every other week with him. He's built multiple companies, software companies, to the billion-dollar mark. And so he's been down the path. And so we get on a call. I'm like, "Okay. Here's where we're stuck. What am I going to do? What would you do?" And I'm asking questions and modeling, like, "Hey. Show me three businesses that have done what you're talking about." And he'll show me. We'll find it. And we look at it, and we reverse-engineer it. We come back and apply it.

And so the key is just really figuring out... It's modeling. It's figuring out who's already done the thing you're doing. Find that person. Pay them money. Get to know them. Join their coaching. But whatever it is, get around the people who have already done the thing you're trying to do.

Because for them, it's simple. Right? For us, as we're going through it, it's really, really difficult. But the person who's already done it, looking back, it's simple.

For me, now, the mindset and belief of, "I can do this," is simple now. I get it. I can help somebody with that really, really easily. Whereas in the moment, it was impossible. It felt impossible. Right? Launching a software company felt like an impossible moment, and now it's super easy.

So it's finding people who... The thing you're struggling with now is super easy, because they've already done it multiple times. Getting around them. Hiring them. Paying them. And learning how to think like them. Right? It's always a shift in thinking and belief. And so it's coming back and saying, "Okay. I've got to think like them. I've got to believe like them."

I think a lot of times, many of us... and I see this a lot with people who hire me... they hire me, or they hire a coach, and then they try to get the coach to believe or think like they do. And I'm the opposite: I'm not coming to you to try to influence your beliefs. I'm coming to you to change my beliefs. And that's a hard thing to do. Right? Our ego gets in the way a lot of times. So it's coming and saying, "Okay. I'm a blank slate. I'm going to do whatever you say."

In fact, it's funny, because inside our community, we have the... Kaelin Poulin started it with the whole hashtag, #dowhatrussellsays. And at first, I was really embarrassed by it. But now, it's so cool! Because it's like, "Yeah. If you're hiring me to be your coach, just do what I say!"

If I hire a coach, I just do what they say. I literally just... In fact, I'm working on my fourth book right now. And I have a quote. One of my friends wrote this in a blog post. He was talking about his morning routine, and why he does this really weird thing. And he says in the thing, he said, "People ask me why I do this." He said, "Because Tony Robbins told me so, and I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence."

And so for me, it's always been this joke: Now, when I hire a coach, whatever they say, I say, "I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence." Right? If I hire someone, I just believe them inherently, because I did the work ahead of time to see if I'm going to believe them. If I believe them, I give them my money. And I do whatever they say, and I don't deviate from that. Right?

So people in my world say hashtag, "#dowhatrussellsays." For me, it's hashtag, "#dowhatstevencollinssays." That's the guy who I hired right now who is mentoring me. Whatever he says, I just do it. I don't fight. I don't question. He's been there a million times. And so I just do what all giant... You know? I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. I obey whoever I pay to teach me something, because they know what I don't know.

And so for me, that's kind of the process: Find the hurdle. Find out who's already done it. Get that person. And then obey them, and just follow what they say to a T. So I hope that helps.

Jermaine: That made perfect sense. So you basically trust yourself, and then you do what your coaches say?

Russell: 100 percent. Yep! I do the work ahead of time. Before I hire the coach, I got to make sure I believe this coach is right. But if I believe they're right, then yes, I just do whatever they say.

And so I see people, sometimes, blindly will sign up for coaching, or they'll hire a mentor, or whatever. And then they just kind of blindly follow the person. The person might not be right for them. But I do the homework ahead of time. And then when I know, "Okay. I'm committed. This is the person." Then I go all in, and I just put on blinders and follow them.

Jermaine: Got you. I appreciate that. What was that book again? I'm going to have to write that down.

Russell: Atlas Shrugged. So the way to remember it is Atlas is the god that's holding the weight of the world on his shoulders. And the premise of the book is: The producers, the entrepreneurs, people like us who are trying to... We're literally holding the weight of the world on our shoulders. Right? We're creating companies. We're creating jobs, and doing all these things. What would happen if Atlas just shrugged and walked away from his responsibilities?

So the book is about that. What happens when the producers get so much pressure from government and society where it's no longer worth it to them, so they shrug, and they walk away from their responsibilities? And so that's the premise of the book, which is so fascinating.

I'm actually listening to it again right now, which is fun. But it's a 1500-page book. It's intense. If you listen to the audiobook, it's eight audiobooks. That's how big it is. But man, it's worth it!

Jermaine: I'm going to grab both of them right now. I've got all of your books. I've been following you for a while. My favorite one is the DotCom Secrets.

Russell: Oh, very cool! Thanks, man! I appreciate that.

Yhennifer: Awesome! Thank you.

Jermaine: You're welcome.

Yhennifer: ... Jermaine. Thank you for being here today. I'm going to reset the room really quickly. We are, right now, listening to the Marketing Secrets Live podcast. This room is actually being recorded. Make sure you follow the house at the top so that you can get a notification when Russell goes live again here.

Now, we are going to give the mic to Jeff. Welcome, Jeff! He is a product launch expert, has made over $8 million from 22 launches in three years. What question do you have for Russell, Jeff?

Russell: What's up, Jeff?

Jeff: Hey, Russell! What's going on, buddy?

Russell: Good to hear from you.

Jeff: So hey, being in your inner circle for the last five years, I've had the awesome pleasure of watching all the big house marketing initiatives that you've incorporated into the funnels that you and the rest of the ClickFunnels community launched, and also at your annual Funnel Hacking Live event with Village Impact and O.U.R., as you mentioned. So what's been cool to see is the more funnels and events you launch, the more you're able to give back, which is awesome.

So how are you thinking about incorporating that live launch strategy that you've been doing with, perhaps, more of an evergreen launch strategy now? With things like OFA, your quarterly Two Comma Club Live virtual event, and now the DotCom Secrets Summit that you just launched, with some of these... trying to also bring in these new live launches. I know you have Funnel Hacking Live coming up in a few months. Can you just talk about... Each month, what are you looking at in terms of evergreen versus live?

Russell: Yeah. That's a good question. That's something we could talk about for a long time. You know? I think it's interesting. I watch somebody like Tony Robbins, who... He does UPW four times a year. He does Date with Destiny twice a year. And he does these things. And he's been doing it live for decades now. Three or four decades, he's been doing these events.

If you go to them, they're very similar every single time. And for me, it's tough, because if I go back and I teach the same thing twice, I want to pull my hair out! You know? And I'm like, "I don't know how Tony has been so consistent for so long."

And so for me, it's like there's this blend. Right? There's things that... The DotCom Secrets book came from me from a decade of me teaching these principles. I was doing events, and speaking at other people's events, and teaching these principles. And finally, I was like, "If I have to tell this story about the value ladder one more time, I'm going to kill myself." Right?

So that's when I finally was like, "I'm going to write a book." So I wrote a book. And it was like, "Here it is. It's now evergreen. I can give it to people. And I don't want to talk about this thing again." Right?

A similar thing happened with Expert Secrets. And you were in the inner circle, and I was... We spent three years geeking out on webinars, and conversions, and psychology, and all this kind of stuff. And I was like, "I don't ever want to talk about this again." So I turned it into a book. And I was like, "Hey, there's the blueprint!"

And so I look at the online stuff through a very similar way. Right? We did the Two Comma Club Live event that first time, and then my energy was there. I was excited. It was fun. We created it. We launched it. It was amazing!

But then, I was like... For me, it's like art. I didn't want to just be like, "Hey, it's done!" And walk away from it. But I didn't want to teach it again. So it's like, "Okay. How do I turn this experience into something that's now evergreen?" That we can keep the message going on. Right? So that when I'm dead and gone, my kids can keep running the ads, and keep running the event, and it'll keep producing. Because for me, all the stuff we do is art. And so I want to sustain it.

So I'm always looking: Is there something I can do that I can create it, but then it'll last? It'll live beyond myself. Right?

If you've read Ryan Holiday's book, The Perennial Seller... In fact, he spoke last year at Funnel Hacking Live about that book. I was like, "I want you to talk about Perennial Seller!" He was like, "I've written eight books since then!" I was like, "I know, but that's my favorite one! You've got to talk about that."

But in Perennial Seller, he talks about the difference between art that lasts forever versus stuff that happens and is gone. Right? A good example is in movies. Right? Avatar, for a long time, was the greatest selling movie of all time. But if you ask someone to quote an Avatar line, there's not a person on this Earth who can remember anything from that movie. Right? It was a great seller, but then it died. Right?

And so many people in our industry do a big sell, and then it dies. And it disappears. Versus you create a movie like Star Wars, where it lives beyond itself... It has legacy. It's a perennial seller. It'll continue to do well for a million years from now.

Or you have TV shows. Right? You look at Seinfeld versus Friends: Friends was very much successful in the moment, but then it hasn't lived on as well as something like Seinfeld, which has lived on in perpetuity for so long. Much more of a perennial seller.

And so I was always trying to create things that could be perennial sellers. And so when I do do something like that where I think it can last beyond itself, where things are strategic enough that they're not tactical, and they're going to change. Where they're strategic and we can do it, I want those things to live forever. So again, that's the Summits. That's the Two Comma Club Live, and things like that.

But then we have our big hits. Right? Funnel Hacking Live, it's a big show. It's what's working now. You know? We put all this energy and this effort into it, but we know it's a one-time show. Right? And it happens. It's done. It's over. And then next year, we're going to plan a new one. And we can't evergreen Funnel Hacking Live. Right? It's a little bit different.

And so it's just looking at those kind of things. You know? Sometimes, you're going to have an Avatar hit. And you should totally go and take the 100 billion dollars it makes and cash it, because that's awesome. But other things you create, you want the longevity. And so for me, that's how I'm looking at things. It's just like, "Okay. What things have longevity? What things do I want to be a perennial seller? What things do I think can last just beyond a product launch or beyond a thing?" And as soon as it's done, then it's like, "Okay. How do we morph that into something now that can last beyond the moment?"

So that's kind of how I look at things in my head, how I figure things out. And then on top of that, it's just... You know? We're still kind of figuring it out.

So some things, we're finding that we launch and we make the perennial version, they don't last long. They're still there. So people can find them, but they're not... The longevity is not there. We can't continue to buy ads to it.

Whereas One Funnel Way, it's crazy! To this day, One Funnel Way has been running almost three years now. We fill up 1500 every two weeks to a 100 dollar, paid challenge. And it continues to convert. It continues to work. It continues to... That one is, of all the things we've done, the most perennial, and just continues to work. And I wouldn't have guessed that going into it until we tried to make the evergreen version. And it kept working. And it's like, "Oh, my gosh! This is amazing!"

So yeah. I don't know if that answers the question. But kind of... That's how I think through things, and how I'm looking at stuff.

Myron: Can I ask you a question about that, Russell?

Russell: Yeah, Myron! I'd love to.

Myron: What advertising methodologies are you using to put 1500 people in a challenge every two weeks? Because that sounds phenomenal!

Russell: Yeah! A couple things: Number one is we pay 100 percent affiliate commission. So the only people who go through it refer people, and it's 100 bucks, and they get 100 percent of that 100 bucks.

Number two is that I can spend 100... I can lose money. So I can spend 150, 200 dollars to sell a challenge. So I can spend a lot of money to do it, because again, 100 percent of the money goes directly back into advertising. We're not trying to make money on the challenge.

As you know, all the money is in the back. And amateurs focus on the front end. So we liquidate it. 100 percent of our money goes into the ad spin.

And number three, I think, is just... The message is right. For some reason, that message, it lives long. Right? The people, if it's their very first time... You look at the headline. It's like, "If you want to launch your first or your next funnel." So if it's their first one, it's like, "Oh, this is going to help me." Number two, it's like if you've launched a funnel but, "I need to go back and do this again," it gives you a chance to review it and go back through it.

And I'd say the last thing is we weave that theme into all of our offers now. If you look at everything, every offer leads back to OFA. You buy all my books? OFA is in that sales flow. You do one of our challenges, it leads back to OFA. So it's weaved into everything now. So it's plugged into the back end of everything we're doing. And so no matter what somebody buys, all roads lead to the One Funnel Way challenge eventually, which is pretty cool.

Myron: Wow!

Russell: Yeah. And we're working on, now-

Myron: Great stuff.

Russell: We're working on a One Funnel Away e-commerce version of the OFA challenge next, which I'm really excited for as well. So anyway-

Dan: And you do that live every two weeks?

Russell: So I don't. I recorded it live once. And we have a team, now, though. So we have a team of... One person runs it, and three or four coaches. And so every week, they reset a new Facebook group. And then they're in there full-time answering questions. And then they stream. The trades that were live at one time, they stream them into the Facebook group. And all the interaction happens there.

So it feels very alive. People know it's not alive, but it feels very live. It's executed live. It's not like logging the members in and watch... Day-one videos. We try to replicate the experience as close as possible. And again, it's not just like, "Go watch this video and hope for the best." Literally, they watch the video, and then there's coaches in there who are answering questions, who are getting them to do the homework, who are... Full-time, their job is in there, now.

Because it's been so profitable for us, man, we left... I always tell people: One of the biggest problems that us entrepreneurs have is we create something and then we move on to the next thing. And OFA was the first thing that our group created it, and were like, "There's something magic here." And we left somebody behind.

So Shane on our team, we left him behind and said, "Your job is to continue to make this better and to run it." And then he hired three or four coaches, and now there's a team of people who, full-time, all they do is make sure OFA is happening, and it's consistent, and it works. And because we left somebody behind, that's why the fulfillment continues to improve week after week, although I'm not creating new content week after week.

Dan: And it converts similar with the streaming replay as it did with you doing it live?

Russell: Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: That's-

Russell: It was easier to sell people in initially: "Yeah, go sign up for it! Go to onefunnelway.com and watch the process!" But yes-

Dan: That's what I'm going to do right now.

Russell: 100 percent. 100 percent. And like I said, three years, we've been running that thing.

We launched initially, and then we did it live again four or five months ago just to kind of refresh the whole thing. But other than that, it's the same thing. And it runs on autopilot.

Dan: And the affiliate aspect is really important, because everybody that comes in, you then say, "Hey. Do you want to make money? Did you love this challenge? Bring somebody in." And they get a commission. Can I just ask one question about that?

Russell: Yeah. Let me give one clarity, and then ask the question. So the clarity is-

Dan: Yeah.

Russell: also right when they first come in. It's like, "You paid 100 bucks for this. Do you want this to be free? Invite a friend." It's right when they sign up. It's like, "Bring by a friend," and now it's free for them, because they just get one person to sign up, and now it's free.

Dan: Okay. That... Okay. So that's my question, is: You guys have really, truly went just deep in the affiliate game. And I almost feel like, sometimes, going all-in on the affiliate game is like... I'd rather pay my customers and my clients than pay Zuckerberg. Do you know what I mean? Honestly!

And so my question to you, on that, is: How do you train somebody who is a normal customer, who is not an affiliate or a traditional super affiliate, to actually refer people to you? Obviously, you have to tell them, "Hey, here's how you refer people." What's your best tip for that?

Russell: Yeah. The best tip is you have to think about it differently. A lot of people are thinking about, "I'm going to make him an affiliate, and teach him about affiliate marketing!" And the average customer, they're not going to be an affiliate. Right?

You look at... The people in e-com space do this really well, a lot of times, and other places, where it's... The position is not how to make a bunch of money as an affiliate. The position is, "How do you get this product for free?" Right?

It's like, "Hey. You get three people to sign up for this, or..." You know? Whatever. For me, it's like, "You get one person to sign up, and now it's free." That's how you position it. And they're like, "Oh, my gosh! I can tell my brother!" And then, "I'm doing this challenge, too! I'm going to invite my friend, and I actually get paid for it?"

And so you get them passing it around. They're not looking at it as a business opportunity as much as, "How do you get the thing you just bought for free? How do you get your money back very, very, quickly?" That's the shift. Right?

Because they're not going to go sign up 100 people, but they are going to get one or two. Right? And if every person brings in one or two, it becomes this self-fulfilling machine that just keeps growing, and things like that.

And so it's just looking at it differently, and just showing... That's the positioning. Right? It's not how to be affiliates. It's, "Get this thing for free by telling three people to-"

Dan: So you're not giving them any sort of extensive training? You're just pretty much hoping that one customer will refer, maybe, a couple... few... people. But it's a consistent thing, rather than, "Hey. Here's this training on how to refer more people." And you... But-

Russell: Yeah. Because they're not going to buy ads. They're not going to... They don't have an email list. But they're going through this. They believe in it now, and they don't want to feel dumb. And it's like, "If I can get my friends in this and do it together, now it's a fun thing. And we can study together." And that's the-

Dan: Oh, the accountability! Oh, my gosh! That's so good! Okay. All right. That was awesome. That was gold.

Russell: Awesome.

Yhennifer: Light bulbs are going off here! I love it! I hope everyone is taking notes. I want to add one more thing to the OFA stuff, Russell, if it's okay with you?

Russell: Yeah.

Yhennifer: Because I see what goes on in the Facebook community, and I just wanted to add that people sometimes buy the OFA more than once just because they want the accountability of the coaches. They come back. They see that it has so much value that they're like, "100 dollars? I'm in!" So we also see that as well.

Russell: Yeah. The OFA lifers, it's almost a continuity program. They re-sign up every single month, because they don't want to lose the connection with the team!

Yhennifer: Yes! Yes. It's amazing. So if you have not done the One Funnel Way, go to onefunnelway.com. It's an awesome, awesome offer.

Yhennifer: Okay. We have one more guest here, Michael Hoffman. He's a digital marketer and an owner of a digital media agency. So Michael, what question do you have for Russell?

Michael: Hi, everyone! Thanks so much for having me up here. Russell, thanks so much for providing all the value. You mentioned something before, that there was this hashtag, "#dowhatrussellsays." And earlier this year, I read Traffic Secrets, started my podcast. The other day, I finished your new Expert Secrets. I'm going to work on my weekly webinar now. So doing what Russell says actually works!

So my question is a little different, and more mindset-related. You have an extensive past in... almost professional sports. You were a wrestler for many, many years. And you made that transition into entrepreneurship. And I have a past as a professional basketball player, and also transitioned into... first, to a full-time job, and then entrepreneurship. And for me, it was a very difficult time to shift my identity. And I just wanted to get your... yeah, basically... experiences on how you experienced that phase, to transition from full-time sports to entrepreneurship, and what helped you to complete this identity shift?

Russell: Oh, very cool! It's interesting. I think... Not always, but I feel like athletes often do really good in entrepreneurship. And I think the reason why... I've thought about this a lot... It's because for me, with wrestling... I'm sure it's the same for you with basketball... Every day, for me, I'd step out on the mat. And there was the guy I'm going against. And we'd wrestle. And a lot of times, I lost. A lot of times, I won. But I got used to failure, and it didn't destroy my identity when I failed. Right?

I feel like a lot of people get into entrepreneurship, and they're so scared that if they try something and it fails, that it means that they're a failure. Versus in wrestling, I'd fail, and I'm like, "Cool! Now I know how to beat this guy!" Watch the film, figure it out next time I go back, and I try to beat him again. Right?

And it's a different mindset where failure meant I could learn something, versus failure meant I was a failure. And I see that so many times in entrepreneurs, where they'll sit in club house rooms, or podcasts, or read books for years, and years, and years, and never do anything, because they're so scared of that failure.

Whereas athletes have experienced it. You know? I lost tons of matches! You know? So I'm used to that failure, and I'm okay with it, and I don't label myself as a "failure." So I think that's why athletes do well, just because they have had that experience.

But on the other question, that identity shift: So it was interesting. So my wrestling career, that was my life, as you know. It was probably similar to you. I was a wrestler. If you asked me, "Russell, what are you?" I'd go, "I'm a wrestler." And so I was. And I wrestled all the way through college.

And I remember at the end of college is when I started learning some of the internet business and figured things out. And my senior year, I ended up losing the Pac-10 Tournament. I thought I was going to go to Nationals and place. And I had... My entire life, I was focused on this goal. And I ended up losing the Pac-10s and not qualifying for the National Tournament my senior year, which was horrible for me. Right? My entire everything just stopped. I remember sitting there on the side of the mat crying, and just... "It's done. I can't even achieve my goal if I wanted to. It's gone! There's no..." It was weird not being able to achieve a goal.

And I remember, luckily for me, I had this entrepreneurship thing happening at the time that I was learning about. Because if I didn't have something, I think I would have gone into this downward spiral of depression just knowing that the thing I'd been dreaming about for 20 years, I know longer... It's physically impossible for me to do, now. It's out of... It's impossible.

And so for me, luckily, I had this business. And I started focusing my time and energy there. And it gave me something to do, to focus on a new goal. And that was the big goal, the big thing. And so, because I was able to transition pretty easily... Because I had just... I was trying to avoid the pain of my old identity dying, and so I had to shift over here.

And so I think, for people who are making that transition, it's... I mean, you used the word "identity shift," which was the right word. Right? It's like you have to shift that identity. And I don't know how to... I mean, in fact, we have Anthony Trucks, who is going to be speaking at Funnel Hacking Live specifically on identity shifting yourself, which I'm excited for. He's geeked out on this at a level that I don't think anyone else really has, and so it's going to be fun to have him go into it on the process.

Because I don't know exactly what the process was, other than that I knew that I shifted. And then I started looking at it like a sport. I said, "Okay. What's the goal? What am I going to win?" You know? "Who are my teammates? Who do I got to get to know? Who are the competitors? Who do I have to beat?" And I just used the same mindset.

And I think that a lot of people come into business, and they look at it different than a sport, which is interesting when you look at it. It's like, "Oh, I'm here to..." You know? I don't know. I did a podcast three or four years ago. I still remember where I was at when I recorded it, because when we came out with ClickFunnels, for me, it was... It's a combat sport. I'm looking: "Okay, who are the competitors? Who are the people out there?"

And at first, it was like, "Leepages! That's who I have to beat!" Because in wrestling, that's what I did: "All right. Who is the guy that I got to beat?" I looked at him. We studied film. We figured it out, and we got to the point where I could beat that person. And we found the next person in the next tier up. We found the person, identified the target, reverse-engineered their style, and learned how to beat them.

And so for me, it was the same thing. Leepages was the first person on our hit list. Right? So we came out. And those who were around when we launched ClickFunnels, it was very aggressive. It was not... You know? I was like, "This is our competitors. We're going after them." And we went after them. Then we got to the point where we beat Leepages, and we passed them.

After we passed them, it was like, "Hey, who is the next competitor?" For us, it was Infusionsoft. And I was like, "There's no way we can beat Infusionsoft. They're huge!" But I'm like, "That's the goal!" And so we figured out who they were. We reverse-engineered it. You know? Went after them, and ended up far surpassing them.

And it was interesting, because I remember the CEO and me... He's a really nice guy. But he messaged me one time, and he asked me... He was like, "Why do you hate Infusionsoft so much?" And I'm like, "I don't hate you! I'm grateful for you! You're the person..." I needed somebody to get me motivated. Otherwise, as a competitor, if I'm just... I'm not here just to make money. That was what inspired. It inspired me. It was the victory, trying to figure out the next person who we're going after. Right?

And I told... It's kind of like that scene in Batman, The Dark Knight, where Joker asks Batman, "Why do you hate me?" And he's like, "I don't hate you! You fulfill me! I need you! Without you, there's no me!" Right?

And so for me, that was the transition. It was like... I didn't take the competitiveness out of me. I kept it. Everything I did that drove me in wrestling, I kept that. But I focused it over here in business. And so the identity shift wasn't huge. It was just a different game. Right?

Same athlete. Same competitive nature. Same everything. But the game was different, and so I had to figure out the game, figure out the rules, figure out the players, figure out the competition, and then make it fun for me. And so for me, that's kind of, I think, how I was able to make that transition.

Yeah. I don't know if that answers the question. But that's kind of the mindset behind, for me, how I was going to make that transition. And at Funnel Hacking Live, Anthony Trucks will show us the actual process to shift identity, which I'm so excited for!

Michael: Awesome! Thank you so much! That was really helpful, just listening to your experience and hearing it from someone else. And I like the competitive aspect, and the perseverance that we have as athletes to transition that into entrepreneurship.

Russell: Yeah. Well, very cool, man. Thanks for jumping on the show. I appreciate it!

Yhennifer: Awesome! Thank you, Michael, for being here. And Russell, I think that wraps up our Marketing Secrets podcast today!

Russell: How fun! Well, thanks, you guys, all for jumping on and hanging out. We're going to continue to do these. I'm having fun with it so far. So hopefully, you guys are as well.

For those who are listening to the recording: If you want to make sure you get on the next live one and maybe get your question answered live, go to clubhousewithrussell.com. That'll redirect you to our clubhouse page. Go follow the room, and we'll do this again soon.

Thank you for all of our guest speakers who jumped on: Keenya, Dan, and Myron. I appreciate you guys jumping on and sharing your thoughts, as well.

Hopefully, some of the conversations we had were stimulating and helped you think about yourself, think about your charity, think about your funnels, all this stuff. Hopefully, you guys enjoyed it. If you did, let us know! And if you want to hear the recording of this, make sure you subscribe to the Marketing Secrets podcast on any of the platforms. We're there. Probably in the next week or so, it'll go up live there, and you can go and re-listen to all the stuff we talked about.

So thank you Yhennifer for all the time and effort you put into it, and everybody else here on the clubhouse team. I'm grateful for everybody. And with that said, I guess we'll see you guys all on the next episode!

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]]> 2196 no How to Reconcile Charity - Liberate and Educate https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-reconcile-charity-liberate-and-educate On this episode of Marketing Secrets Live, Russell explains how he feels about charity and how to reconcile it with your own thoughts and beliefs. Don’t miss the next Marketing Secrets Live episode! Register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Good morning. Good morning. This is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, we're going to be sharing you guys another clip from the Marketing Secrets live show, if you're not in live show yet, make sure to go to clubhouscewithrussell.com and register, that way you can be at live ones next time. But this episode, I talked about something that I struggle with back and forth in my head. I don't know if you guys do as well, but if you do, this will hopefully be conversation, we'll make it fun for you. I'm talking about charity, obviously we know that when we do charity, we shouldn't be flaunting it, but at the same time when we do talk about charity, it inspires other people to do it and so, what's the balance of it? What's right? What's wrong? What should we do? What should we not be doing? I'm open to this conversation. I don't know the answers, I'm just going to share some of my thoughts. At the end of this episode, Myron Golden jumped on and dropped some of his thoughts, which were pure gold and so anyway, with that said, hope you guys enjoyed this episode, we'll keep theme song and we'll be right back. Okay. With that said, I'm going to jump into the thing that has been on my mind a lot lately and this is something that I don't know the answer to. So, I'm just going to kind of go down a path that, and who knows where it ends up, but hopefully get you guys thinking. So, what I want to talk about is, is charity and using charity in our business and our marketing and how these things all fit together. Because I have an internal dilemma with some of it sometimes, on a couple of different sides, so I'll sit back. I remember, and I would try to find the story last night, I looked through five or six books and I couldn't find it unfortunately, but the gist of the story was there was this man, right? And he was super charitable and he had a lot of money and did all these things and he donated money to this thing and so they named a building after him. He donated money to this thing and so they named a thing after him and all these different things, right? And he had been super charitable his whole life and he ends up dying, going up to heaven and he's sitting there with God and God's like, yeah, well, you did these things, but like, you got your name on a building, you didn't do anything truly charitable. You're doing these things because you were trying to get something in return, right? And I remember reading that back, man, this is almost 20 years ago I read that and I wish I could have found the actual story, but having that feeling of like, okay, If I'm going to do charity or give or whatever, I got to be very careful about that, right? And then, last night when I was doing my research trying to find the things I want to talk about, I actually found a really cool scripture that's been in my head a lot. And I want to share this because this is going to give you some context to what I want to just put out there in the world for you guys. And it's Matthew chapter 6, it's the first couple of verses here and this is Jesus giving his Sermon on the Mount and, if you haven’t read the Sermon on the Mount, come on now, probably the greatest presentation of all time, right? And this is what he said, he said take heed that you do not your alms before men to be seen of others, otherwise you have no reward of your father which is in heaven. Therefore, when thou do sign alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in synagogues and in the streets, so they may have glory of men, verily I sent you, they have their reward. But when that does arms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth. And so, man, I hear that and I was like, oh, this is scary because I think about the things that we do inside of our business that are charitable, right? We village impact, we donated tons of money there. We built schools, we gone to Kenya, we've done those things, but then I come back and I share it, like tell everybody about it, right? We're operation to go on railroad and we've raised millions of dollars, we've helped save children and it's like... And I have this dilemma. I'm curious if you guys have had that dilemma in your head as well. Okay. I want to do good, but if we talk about it, then the core right here, verily, I say to you then you have your reward. If I talk about it and people are like, oh, good job, you're doing these charitable things like... Your reward is the praise of man, right? And so, you have it there. But, at the same time, if we don't talk about the things we're doing, then might nobody else does it. The fact that we did the, with Operation Underground Railroad, the documentary. We shared it in Funnel Hacking Live, we raised a million dollars year one, we did it again year number two. We talk about these things, we showed the good that's happening. What happens is, it inspires other people. I watched it, because we did the OUR documentary, raised a million dollars in Funnel Hacking Live, Orlando. After that, there are probably a dozen or so people in the ClickFunnels community who went and went with Tim Ballard, took in his events or took them to their events, they showed the documentary and then they raised hundreds of thousands of dollars at their events and then, from there, it kind of spiraled down and all of a sudden the message got bigger and more people shared it. And so, for me, I had this internal conflict, right? Where it's just like, man, I want the blessings of charity, but also, if I'm going out there and being charity because it's going to increase my conversion rates or get people to like me more, whatever. Then I keep having this thing going through my head where Christ literally says, verily I send to you, they have their reward. Russell, you have your reward. And so, I have this conundrum and so I wanted to bring up to you guys, just for you to think it through it as well, right? And I'm going to tell you kind of how in my mind, I've come to settle it and I feel comfortable about it and just wanted to put this out there, because I think a lot of you guys either do charity or you want to charity and you have the same apprehension. What do we do? What do we not do, right? And I remember actually, man, when was it? Two or three months ago, I had a chance to go out to Tony Robbins. We did a little mastermind group for all the people that are top 10 in the product launch they did. And so, we had a chance to go, we were in this little, on his stage in a little room with everyone who was a top affiliate and we each had a chance to ask Tony a question. And I'm not going to tell you what my question was yet, we're doing a whole vlog about it. In fact, in Funnel Hacking Live, we'll show you part of that blog because what he shared with me and what we talked about was insane and you guys are going to love it, but I can't ruin the surprise yet. So, I can't tell you that. But one thing he said during that, during this interaction, I can't remember whose question it was or something, but he said he struggled with the same thing as well. He's like, I didn't want to publicly talk about the charity things I was doing, but he's like, but when I did, I found out other people got involved and other people got inspired and then it grew and did more things outside of just me, right? So, that was one thing that Tony talked about and you look at Tony, he talks about charities, right? Tony is the number one donor for OUR as well as a dozen other charities, right? He feeds a billion people a year and all these things. And he talks about those things and I think I've struggled in the past too, of like, oh, he's talking about the things, he shouldn't be doing that because that's his reward, is people thinking he's cool, right? And I have this conundrum. The other thing is interesting. I thought about this a lot when I read Atlas Shrugged and some of you guys heard me and Josh did a four or five hour long podcast episode about Atlas Shrugged. If you haven't read that book, man, as a producer, as an entrepreneur, you should read it, it'll be inspiring for you. But, it was talking about in that book, I can't remember where or what, maybe it was the thought I had, but talking about, even like, when I go Downtown Boise and I see people that are homeless, they're sitting there, right? And we give them money or we buy them food or something. I'm still getting a reward out of that, right? I give somebody money and I feel good about myself, I'm like, oh my gosh, I got value from that person, right? Even someone who's begging, when you transact, you give them money, you give them food, you give them a home, you give them something, the feeling you get, you're still getting value out of that, right? So, it's like no matter what you do, I feel like I'm getting a reward ahead of time. And so, there's the conundrum in my head. So, I kind of set the stage for that and I want to step back and just kind of tell you guys how in my mind I justify things, how I think about things and hopefully it'll help any of you guys who are struggling with this or thought about this or now maybe you're going to start thinking about this, okay. So, for me, in my mind there's different ways that we can all serve, right? In different ways that I serve. There are things like, the two big charities that we support inside of ClickFunnels are Village Impact and it's Operation Underground Railroad. In fact, some of you guys, if you've been to Funnel Hacking Live, you heard me talk about this before, but we have a non-profit called Liberate and Educate. And the reason why is, because if you look at what we do as a company, ClickFunnels our mission, right? Is literally to liberate and educate entrepreneurs, we liberate them by giving them software and tools and making them free, right? And then we educate them, so they have the education they need to be able to do it, right? Dan, for example, insanely talented person and he was struggling, came back, read .com secrets, he got the education, right? He used ClickFunnels, he liberated into programming, we liberated and educated, and boom, he's talked about 25 million in four years later, right? We liberate and educate entrepreneurs, and so that's been kind of our mission from day number one. But then we came back and the first few Funnel Hacking Lives, our focus was focusing on Village Impact, which is a charity that Stewart McLaren and his wife started. And I've had a chance to go to Kenya three or four times, we built schools out there and that was always like a thing that we did. And then, Funnel Hacking Live, Orlando's when we introduced Operation Underground Railroad. I remember after FHL, Orlando, which was, I'm bad at years, I think it was 2018 or something. We were in Kenya and I was sitting there hanging out with the kids, we were doing the service stuff and I was sitting there and I was like, man, these are two amazing charities, how do we tie these things into the ClickFunnels mission better? And literally, as I'm sitting there, the phrase that entered my head was liberate and educate. And at first, I was like, yeah, that's what we do for entrepreneurs and then I was like, oh my gosh, that's how these two things tie into our charity for ClickFunnels. We liberate children from sex, slavery through Operation Underground Railroad and then we educate children through Village Impact. I was like, liberate and educate, I'm like, oh my gosh, our social mission is the same as our public mission. And so, I became thinking again, we create a non-profit and this is our thing, right? But for me, I look at this Liberal and Educate, this mission, right? We're trying to do these things and I try to make it as public as possible, knowing full well that I don't believe that I'm going to get rewards in heaven or whatever. My reward from Liberal and Educate is that it brings our community together, right? People see the fact that we're giving and we're sharing, and it gets other people to give and share and we're very public, we're very vocal and very big about that, right? And in my head, I fully believe that, again, verily I say unto you, they have their reward, I have my reward. My reward coming from that is, I get to see the children, I get to see the impact, I get to see our community get involved, I get to see these things and that's my reward, right? And maybe someday it will be rewarding having sweet bonus points, but I'm not expecting anything from that at all, right? Because it's very public. And so, for me, it's like, I'm able to look at the scripture and say, okay, I'm literally doing my alms before men and I'm being seen of others, I'm doing it because I want to inspire them and I want to have that impact and so, I'm looking at that as like, these are my charitable missions, my reward is the benefit that the other people getting involved and I get that feeling and that's my reward, right? But, because also I don't want to get to heaven someday and the Lord being like, hey, this is the deal, your name's on a building here, you got this thing over here. Yeah, you did get stuff, but you did it with an ulterior motive. I understand, I have ulterior motives in my charitable, that everybody can see, right? And so, for me, I'm like, I have to have charity in a way that people can't see, otherwise, I don't know, for those who are Christian or believe in God or you whatever, this is probably something that weighs on your mind, at least it does for me. And so, and if not, that's totally cool, you should still worry about it too because it's important whether you believe in it or not, but I'll leave that for another discussion for another day. But, what I wanted to just kind of think about is like, there's things that we have to do privately as well. And so, I'm not going to talk about those things, but I do things privately that I don't talk about, I don't share, nobody ever sees, because those are the things that I'm trying to do to be actual charitable. I almost look at these other things aren't really charity because I'm getting so much value out of them personally, that it's not really a charitable contribution, right? I'm doing it because it feels good, because I'm inspiring others, because I'm saving children, because these things are happening and that's my reward and I'm cool with that. There's other things that we do that are private that no one hears me talk about, I'm not ever going to share, I'm not even going to give you a list of what those things could be because I don't want... I want to make sure no one knows, but I want, for all you guys listening to at least as you're thinking about this in your business and in your life, I feel like it's okay to share things as long as you understand that's the purpose, that's the value you're getting in return, is the fact you're able to share and you're able to do those things. And I would recommend having stuff private that you don't talk about, that you don't share, that you keep to yourself because Jesus told us on the sermon on the Mount, that that's what we should do and so, I believe that's very important as well. And so, anyway, that was the podcast I wanted to share publicly today because it's been on my mind, I've wanted to do a podcast about this for man, probably five or six months, I keep thinking about it and then yesterday they asked me if I wanted a topic ideas for this podcast episode, I'm like, you know what, I'm going to just dive into it because it'll force me to actually not to be nervous to talk about it. But I think it's valuable, I think it's important, especially for anyone who's like me, who's thinking about these things and trying to figure out like, man, how do I consolidate these things? How do I tie these things together? Because I want to give, I want to be shared and I want to inspire other people to do it as well, but I also don't want to be in heaven some day and he's like, hey, you had your reward, you're good to go. I want to be able to have both sides of the coin and so, that's kind of how, I don't know if rationalization's the right word of how... In my mind, it makes sense to me and why I'm going to be as loud as possible about our social mission, about Liberating and Educating, because I'm getting my reward, it's okay and I want those things to go on and inspire, I want to get you guys to be doing those things as well. And one thing Tony told me, in fact, if you watched the Funnel Hacking Live sales video for, it's the after movie, so the Orlando... I was the Orlando Funnel Hacking Live that Tony told us to meet, but then we showed it, it was the sales video for the first Nashville event. So, if you go to funnelhackinglive.com and scroll down, all the sales videos, we call them the after movies, are down there, just lower down the page because they're still going to want to... I want everyone to be see, if go down and scroll the one, we see the footage from Orlando, but the end of the video, sales video ends and then it comes back and there's this little moment that Tony and I had behind stage, it was really, really cool. And Dan happened to capture it, so the end of the sales video. And what Tony said, he's like, not only am I proud of you for giving, because that's cool, but he's like, you're inspiring these entire group of people to become givers as well and he's like, that's what it's really all about. And so for me, the Liberate and Educate is all about inspiring you guys to be givers and to try to share your means, right? Making money is awesome, sweet, we can buy houses and boats and cars and all these kinds of things, and I'll send them, those things don't matter as much as what are we doing with that? What kind of... How are we trying to change the world with it? I'm a big believer in that, some people may not be, but I think it's essential and so. Anyway, that's my goal with Liberate and Educate, inspire you guys to be givers and then this podcast episode is to help you understand, it's okay to talk about those things, but man, I would recommend doing things privately as well because, yeah, because that day, when we come to... When our life's over and we have that chance, I want to make sure that he doesn't say, you had to reward, I want him to say, man, I wasn't expecting that and that would be special for me. So, that's the podcast episode for today. Myron Golden: Hey, Russel? Russell: Hey, Myron. Myron: Do you mind if I chime in on that just a smidge? Russell: I would love for you to. Myron: Because I think I can add a little bit of value to what you just said, I think everything you said was phenomenal. But in the context and according to the meaning of the words, I think the word that you were looking for was, how do I reconcile these things? Russell: Yes. Reconcile. Perfect. Myron: Yeah. And so, the way you reconcile them is, you have to note when you're studying Bible verses, you have to do keyword studies. And I know this isn't a Bible study, but when you understand that the key word in that verse that you mentioned is that, that's the key word, that. Make sure that when you give your alms, you don't do it that you may be seen of men. In other words, the motive that you have should not be, there's nothing wrong with people seeing you give, there's nothing wrong with you telling people that you're giving, if you're telling them to give, that you gave and to inspire them to give, as long as your motivation for the giving is not that people see you and think you're awesome. That's the actual interpretation of what it means when Jesus said, don't give your alms that you may be seen of men. So, I think what you've done with OUR is phenomenal, I think thousands of people have been contributing to OUR because of your example and because you put it out there, but your motivation wasn't that people would think you're cool, right? So, I think that's the key to understanding and reconciling, how do I give and inspire people to give without making me a big deal, so that's all I wanted to share. Russell: Oh, it was amazing. Myron, you're the best. Thank you for sharing that and yeah, that was amazing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 07 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0000 How to Reconcile Charity - Liberate and Educate full 429 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode of Marketing Secrets Live, Russell explains how he feels about charity and how to reconcile it with your own thoughts and beliefs. Don’t miss the next Marketing Secrets Live episode! Register at  Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson... On this episode of Marketing Secrets Live, Russell explains how he feels about charity and how to reconcile it with your own thoughts and beliefs. Don’t miss the next Marketing Secrets Live episode! Register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Good morning. Good morning. This is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, we're going to be sharing you guys another clip from the Marketing Secrets live show, if you're not in live show yet, make sure to go to clubhouscewithrussell.com and register, that way you can be at live ones next time. But this episode, I talked about something that I struggle with back and forth in my head. I don't know if you guys do as well, but if you do, this will hopefully be conversation, we'll make it fun for you. I'm talking about charity, obviously we know that when we do charity, we shouldn't be flaunting it, but at the same time when we do talk about charity, it inspires other people to do it and so, what's the balance of it? What's right? What's wrong? What should we do? What should we not be doing? I'm open to this conversation. I don't know the answers, I'm just going to share some of my thoughts. At the end of this episode, Myron Golden jumped on and dropped some of his thoughts, which were pure gold and so anyway, with that said, hope you guys enjoyed this episode, we'll keep theme song and we'll be right back. Okay. With that said, I'm going to jump into the thing that has been on my mind a lot lately and this is something that I don't know the answer to. So, I'm just going to kind of go down a path that, and who knows where it ends up, but hopefully get you guys thinking. So, what I want to talk about is, is charity and using charity in our business and our marketing and how these things all fit together. Because I have an internal dilemma with some of it sometimes, on a couple of different sides, so I'll sit back. I remember, and I would try to find the story last night, I looked through five or six books and I couldn't find it unfortunately, but the gist of the story was there was this man, right? And he was super charitable and he had a lot of money and did all these things and he donated money to this thing and so they named a building after him. He donated money to this thing and so they named a thing after him and all these different things, right? And he had been super charitable his whole life and he ends up dying, going up to heaven and he's sitting there with God and God's like, yeah, well, you did these things, but like, you got your name on a building, you didn't do anything truly charitable. You're doing these things because you were trying to get something in return, right? And I remember reading that back, man, this is almost 20 years ago I read that and I wish I could have found the actual story, but having that feeling of like, okay, If I'm going to do charity or give or whatever, I got to be very careful about that, right? And then, last night when I was doing my research trying to find the things I want to talk about, I actually found a really cool scripture that's been in my head a lot. And I want to share this because this is going to give you some context to what I want to just put out there in the world for you guys. And it's Matthew chapter 6, it's the first couple of verses here and this is Jesus giving his Sermon on the Mount and, if you haven’t read the Sermon on the Mount, come on now, probably the greatest presentation of all time, right? And this is what he said, he said take heed that you do not your alms before men to be seen of others, otherwise you have no reward of your father which is in heaven. Therefore, when thou do sign alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in synagogues and in the streets, so they may have glory of men, verily I sent you, they have their reward. But when that does arms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth. And so, man, I hear that and I was like, oh, this is scary because I think about the things that we do inside of our business that are charitable, right? We village impact, we donated tons of money there. We built schools, we gone to Kenya, we've done those things, but then I come back and I share it, like tell everybody about it, right? We're operation to go on railroad and we've raised millions of dollars, we've helped save children and it's like... And I have this dilemma. I'm curious if you guys have had that dilemma in your head as well. Okay. I want to do good, but if we talk about it, then the core right here, verily, I say to you then you have your reward. If I talk about it and people are like, oh, good job, you're doing these charitable things like... Your reward is the praise of man, right? And so, you have it there. But, at the same time, if we don't talk about the things we're doing, then might nobody else does it. The fact that we did the, with Operation Underground Railroad, the documentary. We shared it in Funnel Hacking Live, we raised a million dollars year one, we did it again year number two. We talk about these things, we showed the good that's happening. What happens is, it inspires other people. I watched it, because we did the OUR documentary, raised a million dollars in Funnel Hacking Live, Orlando. After that, there are probably a dozen or so people in the ClickFunnels community who went and went with Tim Ballard, took in his events or took them to their events, they showed the documentary and then they raised hundreds of thousands of dollars at their events and then, from there, it kind of spiraled down and all of a sudden the message got bigger and more people shared it. And so, for me, I had this internal conflict, right? Where it's just like, man, I want the blessings of charity, but also, if I'm going out there and being charity because it's going to increase my conversion rates or get people to like me more, whatever. Then I keep having this thing going through my head where Christ literally says, verily I send to you, they have their reward. Russell, you have your reward. And so, I have this conundrum and so I wanted to bring up to you guys, just for you to think it through it as well, right? And I'm going to tell you kind of how in my mind, I've come to settle it and I feel comfortable about it and just wanted to put this out there, because I think a lot of you guys either do charity or you want to charity and you have the same apprehension. What do we do? What do we not do, right? And I remember actually, man, when was it? Two or three months ago, I had a chance to go out to Tony Robbins. We did a little mastermind group for all the people that are top 10 in the product launch they did. And so, we had a chance to go, we were in this little, on his stage in a little room with everyone who was a top affiliate and we each had a chance to ask Tony a question. And I'm not going to tell you what my question was yet, we're doing a whole vlog about it. In fact, in Funnel Hacking Live, we'll show you part of that blog because what he shared with me and what we talked about was insane and you guys are going to love it, but I can't ruin the surprise yet. So, I can't tell you that. But one thing he said during that, during this interaction, I can't remember whose question it was or something, but he said he struggled with the same thing as well. He's like, I didn't want to publicly talk about the charity things I was doing, but he's like, but when I did, I found out other people got involved and other people got inspired and then it grew and did more things outside of just me, right? So, that was one thing that Tony talked about and you look at Tony, he talks about charities, right? Tony is the number one donor for OUR as well as a dozen other charities, right? He feeds a billion people a year and all these things. And he talks about those things and I think I've struggled in the past too, of like, oh, he's talking about the things, he shouldn't be doing that because that's his reward, is people thinking he's cool, right? And I have this conundrum. The other thing is interesting. I thought about this a lot when I read Atlas Shrugged and some of you guys heard me and Josh did a four or five hour long podcast episode about Atlas Shrugged. If you haven't read that book, man, as a producer, as an entrepreneur, you should read it, it'll be inspiring for you. But, it was talking about in that book, I can't remember where or what, maybe it was the thought I had, but talking about, even like, when I go Downtown Boise and I see people that are homeless, they're sitting there, right? And we give them money or we buy them food or something. I'm still getting a reward out of that, right? I give somebody money and I feel good about myself, I'm like, oh my gosh, I got value from that person, right? Even someone who's begging, when you transact, you give them money, you give them food, you give them a home, you give them something, the feeling you get, you're still getting value out of that, right? So, it's like no matter what you do, I feel like I'm getting a reward ahead of time. And so, there's the conundrum in my head. So, I kind of set the stage for that and I want to step back and just kind of tell you guys how in my mind I justify things, how I think about things and hopefully it'll help any of you guys who are struggling with this or thought about this or now maybe you're going to start thinking about this, okay. So, for me, in my mind there's different ways that we can all serve, right? In different ways that I serve. There are things like, the two big charities that we support inside of ClickFunnels are Village Impact and it's Operation Underground Railroad. In fact, some of you guys, if you've been to Funnel Hacking Live, you heard me talk about this before, but we have a non-profit called Liberate and Educate. And the reason why is, because if you look at what we do as a company, ClickFunnels our mission, right? Is literally to liberate and educate entrepreneurs, we liberate them by giving them software and tools and making them free, right? And then we educate them, so they have the education they need to be able to do it, right? Dan, for example, insanely talented person and he was struggling, came back, read .com secrets, he got the education, right? He used ClickFunnels, he liberated into programming, we liberated and educated, and boom, he's talked about 25 million in four years later, right? We liberate and educate entrepreneurs, and so that's been kind of our mission from day number one. But then we came back and the first few Funnel Hacking Lives, our focus was focusing on Village Impact, which is a charity that Stewart McLaren and his wife started. And I've had a chance to go to Kenya three or four times, we built schools out there and that was always like a thing that we did. And then, Funnel Hacking Live, Orlando's when we introduced Operation Underground Railroad. I remember after FHL, Orlando, which was, I'm bad at years, I think it was 2018 or something. We were in Kenya and I was sitting there hanging out with the kids, we were doing the service stuff and I was sitting there and I was like, man, these are two amazing charities, how do we tie these things into the ClickFunnels mission better? And literally, as I'm sitting there, the phrase that entered my head was liberate and educate. And at first, I was like, yeah, that's what we do for entrepreneurs and then I was like, oh my gosh, that's how these two things tie into our charity for ClickFunnels. We liberate children from sex, slavery through Operation Underground Railroad and then we educate children through Village Impact. I was like, liberate and educate, I'm like, oh my gosh, our social mission is the same as our public mission. And so, I became thinking again, we create a non-profit and this is our thing, right? But for me, I look at this Liberal and Educate, this mission, right? We're trying to do these things and I try to make it as public as possible, knowing full well that I don't believe that I'm going to get rewards in heaven or whatever. My reward from Liberal and Educate is that it brings our community together, right? People see the fact that we're giving and we're sharing, and it gets other people to give and share and we're very public, we're very vocal and very big about that, right? And in my head, I fully believe that, again, verily I say unto you, they have their reward, I have my reward. My reward coming from that is, I get to see the children, I get to see the impact, I get to see our community get involved, I get to see these things and that's my reward, right? And maybe someday it will be rewarding having sweet bonus points, but I'm not expecting anything from that at all, right? Because it's very public. And so, for me, it's like, I'm able to look at the scripture and say, okay, I'm literally doing my alms before men and I'm being seen of others, I'm doing it because I want to inspire them and I want to have that impact and so, I'm looking at that as like, these are my charitable missions, my reward is the benefit that the other people getting involved and I get that feeling and that's my reward, right? But, because also I don't want to get to heaven someday and the Lord being like, hey, this is the deal, your name's on a building here, you got this thing over here. Yeah, you did get stuff, but you did it with an ulterior motive. I understand, I have ulterior motives in my charitable, that everybody can see, right? And so, for me, I'm like, I have to have charity in a way that people can't see, otherwise, I don't know, for those who are Christian or believe in God or you whatever, this is probably something that weighs on your mind, at least it does for me. And so, and if not, that's totally cool, you should still worry about it too because it's important whether you believe in it or not, but I'll leave that for another discussion for another day. But, what I wanted to just kind of think about is like, there's things that we have to do privately as well. And so, I'm not going to talk about those things, but I do things privately that I don't talk about, I don't share, nobody ever sees, because those are the things that I'm trying to do to be actual charitable. I almost look at these other things aren't really charity because I'm getting so much value out of them personally, that it's not really a charitable contribution, right? I'm doing it because it feels good, because I'm inspiring others, because I'm saving children, because these things are happening and that's my reward and I'm cool with that. There's other things that we do that are private that no one hears me talk about, I'm not ever going to share, I'm not even going to give you a list of what those things could be because I don't want... I want to make sure no one knows, but I want, for all you guys listening to at least as you're thinking about this in your business and in your life, I feel like it's okay to share things as long as you understand that's the purpose, that's the value you're getting in return, is the fact you're able to share and you're able to do those things. And I would recommend having stuff private that you don't talk about, that you don't share, that you keep to yourself because Jesus told us on the sermon on the Mount, that that's what we should do and so, I believe that's very important as well. And so, anyway, that was the podcast I wanted to share publicly today because it's been on my mind, I've wanted to do a podcast about this for man, probably five or six months, I keep thinking about it and then yesterday they asked me if I wanted a topic ideas for this podcast episode, I'm like, you know what, I'm going to just dive into it because it'll force me to actually not to be nervous to talk about it. But I think it's valuable, I think it's important, especially for anyone who's like me, who's thinking about these things and trying to figure out like, man, how do I consolidate these things? How do I tie these things together? Because I want to give, I want to be shared and I want to inspire other people to do it as well, but I also don't want to be in heaven some day and he's like, hey, you had your reward, you're good to go. I want to be able to have both sides of the coin and so, that's kind of how, I don't know if rationalization's the right word of how... In my mind, it makes sense to me and why I'm going to be as loud as possible about our social mission, about Liberating and Educating, because I'm getting my reward, it's okay and I want those things to go on and inspire, I want to get you guys to be doing those things as well. And one thing Tony told me, in fact, if you watched the Funnel Hacking Live sales video for, it's the after movie, so the Orlando... I was the Orlando Funnel Hacking Live that Tony told us to meet, but then we showed it, it was the sales video for the first Nashville event. So, if you go to funnelhackinglive.com and scroll down, all the sales videos, we call them the after movies, are down there, just lower down the page because they're still going to want to... I want everyone to be see, if go down and scroll the one, we see the footage from Orlando, but the end of the video, sales video ends and then it comes back and there's this little moment that Tony and I had behind stage, it was really, really cool. And Dan happened to capture it, so the end of the sales video. And what Tony said, he's like, not only am I proud of you for giving, because that's cool, but he's like, you're inspiring these entire group of people to become givers as well and he's like, that's what it's really all about. And so for me, the Liberate and Educate is all about inspiring you guys to be givers and to try to share your means, right? Making money is awesome, sweet, we can buy houses and boats and cars and all these kinds of things, and I'll send them, those things don't matter as much as what are we doing with that? What kind of... How are we trying to change the world with it? I'm a big believer in that, some people may not be, but I think it's essential and so. Anyway, that's my goal with Liberate and Educate, inspire you guys to be givers and then this podcast episode is to help you understand, it's okay to talk about those things, but man, I would recommend doing things privately as well because, yeah, because that day, when we come to... When our life's over and we have that chance, I want to make sure that he doesn't say, you had to reward, I want him to say, man, I wasn't expecting that and that would be special for me. So, that's the podcast episode for today. Myron Golden: Hey, Russel? Russell: Hey, Myron. Myron: Do you mind if I chime in on that just a smidge? Russell: I would love for you to. Myron: Because I think I can add a little bit of value to what you just said, I think everything you said was phenomenal. But in the context and according to the meaning of the words, I think the word that you were looking for was, how do I reconcile these things? Russell: Yes. Reconcile. Perfect. Myron: Yeah. And so, the way you reconcile them is, you have to note when you're studying Bible verses, you have to do keyword studies. And I know this isn't a Bible study, but when you understand that the key word in that verse that you mentioned is that, that's the key word, that. Make sure that when you give your alms, you don't do it that you may be seen of men. In other words, the motive that you have should not be, there's nothing wrong with people seeing you give, there's nothing wrong with you telling people that you're giving, if you're telling them to give, that you gave and to inspire them to give, as long as your motivation for the giving is not that people see you and think you're awesome. That's the actual interpretation of what it means when Jesus said, don't give your alms that you may be seen of men. So, I think what you've done with OUR is phenomenal, I think thousands of people have been contributing to OUR because of your example and because you put it out there, but your motivation wasn't that people would think you're cool, right? So, I think that's the key to understanding and reconciling, how do I give and inspire people to give without making me a big deal, so that's all I wanted to share. Russell: Oh, it was amazing. Myron, you're the best. Thank you for sharing that and yeah, that was amazing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode of Marketing Secrets Live, Russell explains how he feels about charity and how to reconcile it with your own thoughts and beliefs. Don’t miss the next Marketing Secrets Live episode! Register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com

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Russell Brunson: Good morning. Good morning. This is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, we're going to be sharing you guys another clip from the Marketing Secrets live show, if you're not in live show yet, make sure to go to clubhouscewithrussell.com and register, that way you can be at live ones next time. But this episode, I talked about something that I struggle with back and forth in my head. I don't know if you guys do as well, but if you do, this will hopefully be conversation, we'll make it fun for you.

I'm talking about charity, obviously we know that when we do charity, we shouldn't be flaunting it, but at the same time when we do talk about charity, it inspires other people to do it and so, what's the balance of it? What's right? What's wrong? What should we do? What should we not be doing? I'm open to this conversation. I don't know the answers, I'm just going to share some of my thoughts. At the end of this episode, Myron Golden jumped on and dropped some of his thoughts, which were pure gold and so anyway, with that said, hope you guys enjoyed this episode, we'll keep theme song and we'll be right back.

Okay. With that said, I'm going to jump into the thing that has been on my mind a lot lately and this is something that I don't know the answer to. So, I'm just going to kind of go down a path that, and who knows where it ends up, but hopefully get you guys thinking. So, what I want to talk about is, is charity and using charity in our business and our marketing and how these things all fit together. Because I have an internal dilemma with some of it sometimes, on a couple of different sides, so I'll sit back.

I remember, and I would try to find the story last night, I looked through five or six books and I couldn't find it unfortunately, but the gist of the story was there was this man, right? And he was super charitable and he had a lot of money and did all these things and he donated money to this thing and so they named a building after him. He donated money to this thing and so they named a thing after him and all these different things, right? And he had been super charitable his whole life and he ends up dying, going up to heaven and he's sitting there with God and God's like, yeah, well, you did these things, but like, you got your name on a building, you didn't do anything truly charitable. You're doing these things because you were trying to get something in return, right?

And I remember reading that back, man, this is almost 20 years ago I read that and I wish I could have found the actual story, but having that feeling of like, okay, If I'm going to do charity or give or whatever, I got to be very careful about that, right? And then, last night when I was doing my research trying to find the things I want to talk about, I actually found a really cool scripture that's been in my head a lot. And I want to share this because this is going to give you some context to what I want to just put out there in the world for you guys. And it's Matthew chapter 6, it's the first couple of verses here and this is Jesus giving his Sermon on the Mount and, if you haven’t read the Sermon on the Mount, come on now, probably the greatest presentation of all time, right?

And this is what he said, he said take heed that you do not your alms before men to be seen of others, otherwise you have no reward of your father which is in heaven. Therefore, when thou do sign alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in synagogues and in the streets, so they may have glory of men, verily I sent you, they have their reward. But when that does arms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth. And so, man, I hear that and I was like, oh, this is scary because I think about the things that we do inside of our business that are charitable, right? We village impact, we donated tons of money there. We built schools, we gone to Kenya, we've done those things, but then I come back and I share it, like tell everybody about it, right? We're operation to go on railroad and we've raised millions of dollars, we've helped save children and it's like...

And I have this dilemma. I'm curious if you guys have had that dilemma in your head as well. Okay. I want to do good, but if we talk about it, then the core right here, verily, I say to you then you have your reward. If I talk about it and people are like, oh, good job, you're doing these charitable things like... Your reward is the praise of man, right? And so, you have it there. But, at the same time, if we don't talk about the things we're doing, then might nobody else does it. The fact that we did the, with Operation Underground Railroad, the documentary. We shared it in Funnel Hacking Live, we raised a million dollars year one, we did it again year number two. We talk about these things, we showed the good that's happening. What happens is, it inspires other people.

I watched it, because we did the OUR documentary, raised a million dollars in Funnel Hacking Live, Orlando. After that, there are probably a dozen or so people in the ClickFunnels community who went and went with Tim Ballard, took in his events or took them to their events, they showed the documentary and then they raised hundreds of thousands of dollars at their events and then, from there, it kind of spiraled down and all of a sudden the message got bigger and more people shared it.

And so, for me, I had this internal conflict, right? Where it's just like, man, I want the blessings of charity, but also, if I'm going out there and being charity because it's going to increase my conversion rates or get people to like me more, whatever. Then I keep having this thing going through my head where Christ literally says, verily I send to you, they have their reward. Russell, you have your reward. And so, I have this conundrum and so I wanted to bring up to you guys, just for you to think it through it as well, right? And I'm going to tell you kind of how in my mind, I've come to settle it and I feel comfortable about it and just wanted to put this out there, because I think a lot of you guys either do charity or you want to charity and you have the same apprehension. What do we do? What do we not do, right?

And I remember actually, man, when was it? Two or three months ago, I had a chance to go out to Tony Robbins. We did a little mastermind group for all the people that are top 10 in the product launch they did. And so, we had a chance to go, we were in this little, on his stage in a little room with everyone who was a top affiliate and we each had a chance to ask Tony a question. And I'm not going to tell you what my question was yet, we're doing a whole vlog about it. In fact, in Funnel Hacking Live, we'll show you part of that blog because what he shared with me and what we talked about was insane and you guys are going to love it, but I can't ruin the surprise yet. So, I can't tell you that.

But one thing he said during that, during this interaction, I can't remember whose question it was or something, but he said he struggled with the same thing as well. He's like, I didn't want to publicly talk about the charity things I was doing, but he's like, but when I did, I found out other people got involved and other people got inspired and then it grew and did more things outside of just me, right? So, that was one thing that Tony talked about and you look at Tony, he talks about charities, right? Tony is the number one donor for OUR as well as a dozen other charities, right? He feeds a billion people a year and all these things. And he talks about those things and I think I've struggled in the past too, of like, oh, he's talking about the things, he shouldn't be doing that because that's his reward, is people thinking he's cool, right? And I have this conundrum.

The other thing is interesting. I thought about this a lot when I read Atlas Shrugged and some of you guys heard me and Josh did a four or five hour long podcast episode about Atlas Shrugged. If you haven't read that book, man, as a producer, as an entrepreneur, you should read it, it'll be inspiring for you. But, it was talking about in that book, I can't remember where or what, maybe it was the thought I had, but talking about, even like, when I go Downtown Boise and I see people that are homeless, they're sitting there, right? And we give them money or we buy them food or something. I'm still getting a reward out of that, right? I give somebody money and I feel good about myself, I'm like, oh my gosh, I got value from that person, right? Even someone who's begging, when you transact, you give them money, you give them food, you give them a home, you give them something, the feeling you get, you're still getting value out of that, right?

So, it's like no matter what you do, I feel like I'm getting a reward ahead of time. And so, there's the conundrum in my head. So, I kind of set the stage for that and I want to step back and just kind of tell you guys how in my mind I justify things, how I think about things and hopefully it'll help any of you guys who are struggling with this or thought about this or now maybe you're going to start thinking about this, okay. So, for me, in my mind there's different ways that we can all serve, right? In different ways that I serve.

There are things like, the two big charities that we support inside of ClickFunnels are Village Impact and it's Operation Underground Railroad. In fact, some of you guys, if you've been to Funnel Hacking Live, you heard me talk about this before, but we have a non-profit called Liberate and Educate. And the reason why is, because if you look at what we do as a company, ClickFunnels our mission, right? Is literally to liberate and educate entrepreneurs, we liberate them by giving them software and tools and making them free, right? And then we educate them, so they have the education they need to be able to do it, right? Dan, for example, insanely talented person and he was struggling, came back, read .com secrets, he got the education, right? He used ClickFunnels, he liberated into programming, we liberated and educated, and boom, he's talked about 25 million in four years later, right?

We liberate and educate entrepreneurs, and so that's been kind of our mission from day number one. But then we came back and the first few Funnel Hacking Lives, our focus was focusing on Village Impact, which is a charity that Stewart McLaren and his wife started. And I've had a chance to go to Kenya three or four times, we built schools out there and that was always like a thing that we did. And then, Funnel Hacking Live, Orlando's when we introduced Operation Underground Railroad.

I remember after FHL, Orlando, which was, I'm bad at years, I think it was 2018 or something. We were in Kenya and I was sitting there hanging out with the kids, we were doing the service stuff and I was sitting there and I was like, man, these are two amazing charities, how do we tie these things into the ClickFunnels mission better? And literally, as I'm sitting there, the phrase that entered my head was liberate and educate. And at first, I was like, yeah, that's what we do for entrepreneurs and then I was like, oh my gosh, that's how these two things tie into our charity for ClickFunnels. We liberate children from sex, slavery through Operation Underground Railroad and then we educate children through Village Impact. I was like, liberate and educate, I'm like, oh my gosh, our social mission is the same as our public mission. And so, I became thinking again, we create a non-profit and this is our thing, right?

But for me, I look at this Liberal and Educate, this mission, right? We're trying to do these things and I try to make it as public as possible, knowing full well that I don't believe that I'm going to get rewards in heaven or whatever. My reward from Liberal and Educate is that it brings our community together, right? People see the fact that we're giving and we're sharing, and it gets other people to give and share and we're very public, we're very vocal and very big about that, right?

And in my head, I fully believe that, again, verily I say unto you, they have their reward, I have my reward. My reward coming from that is, I get to see the children, I get to see the impact, I get to see our community get involved, I get to see these things and that's my reward, right? And maybe someday it will be rewarding having sweet bonus points, but I'm not expecting anything from that at all, right? Because it's very public. And so, for me, it's like, I'm able to look at the scripture and say, okay, I'm literally doing my alms before men and I'm being seen of others, I'm doing it because I want to inspire them and I want to have that impact and so, I'm looking at that as like, these are my charitable missions, my reward is the benefit that the other people getting involved and I get that feeling and that's my reward, right?

But, because also I don't want to get to heaven someday and the Lord being like, hey, this is the deal, your name's on a building here, you got this thing over here. Yeah, you did get stuff, but you did it with an ulterior motive. I understand, I have ulterior motives in my charitable, that everybody can see, right? And so, for me, I'm like, I have to have charity in a way that people can't see, otherwise, I don't know, for those who are Christian or believe in God or you whatever, this is probably something that weighs on your mind, at least it does for me. And so, and if not, that's totally cool, you should still worry about it too because it's important whether you believe in it or not, but I'll leave that for another discussion for another day.

But, what I wanted to just kind of think about is like, there's things that we have to do privately as well. And so, I'm not going to talk about those things, but I do things privately that I don't talk about, I don't share, nobody ever sees, because those are the things that I'm trying to do to be actual charitable. I almost look at these other things aren't really charity because I'm getting so much value out of them personally, that it's not really a charitable contribution, right? I'm doing it because it feels good, because I'm inspiring others, because I'm saving children, because these things are happening and that's my reward and I'm cool with that.

There's other things that we do that are private that no one hears me talk about, I'm not ever going to share, I'm not even going to give you a list of what those things could be because I don't want... I want to make sure no one knows, but I want, for all you guys listening to at least as you're thinking about this in your business and in your life, I feel like it's okay to share things as long as you understand that's the purpose, that's the value you're getting in return, is the fact you're able to share and you're able to do those things. And I would recommend having stuff private that you don't talk about, that you don't share, that you keep to yourself because Jesus told us on the sermon on the Mount, that that's what we should do and so, I believe that's very important as well.

And so, anyway, that was the podcast I wanted to share publicly today because it's been on my mind, I've wanted to do a podcast about this for man, probably five or six months, I keep thinking about it and then yesterday they asked me if I wanted a topic ideas for this podcast episode, I'm like, you know what, I'm going to just dive into it because it'll force me to actually not to be nervous to talk about it. But I think it's valuable, I think it's important, especially for anyone who's like me, who's thinking about these things and trying to figure out like, man, how do I consolidate these things? How do I tie these things together? Because I want to give, I want to be shared and I want to inspire other people to do it as well, but I also don't want to be in heaven some day and he's like, hey, you had your reward, you're good to go. I want to be able to have both sides of the coin and so, that's kind of how, I don't know if rationalization's the right word of how... In my mind, it makes sense to me and why I'm going to be as loud as possible about our social mission, about Liberating and Educating, because I'm getting my reward, it's okay and I want those things to go on and inspire, I want to get you guys to be doing those things as well.

And one thing Tony told me, in fact, if you watched the Funnel Hacking Live sales video for, it's the after movie, so the Orlando... I was the Orlando Funnel Hacking Live that Tony told us to meet, but then we showed it, it was the sales video for the first Nashville event. So, if you go to funnelhackinglive.com and scroll down, all the sales videos, we call them the after movies, are down there, just lower down the page because they're still going to want to... I want everyone to be see, if go down and scroll the one, we see the footage from Orlando, but the end of the video, sales video ends and then it comes back and there's this little moment that Tony and I had behind stage, it was really, really cool. And Dan happened to capture it, so the end of the sales video.

And what Tony said, he's like, not only am I proud of you for giving, because that's cool, but he's like, you're inspiring these entire group of people to become givers as well and he's like, that's what it's really all about. And so for me, the Liberate and Educate is all about inspiring you guys to be givers and to try to share your means, right? Making money is awesome, sweet, we can buy houses and boats and cars and all these kinds of things, and I'll send them, those things don't matter as much as what are we doing with that? What kind of... How are we trying to change the world with it? I'm a big believer in that, some people may not be, but I think it's essential and so.

Anyway, that's my goal with Liberate and Educate, inspire you guys to be givers and then this podcast episode is to help you understand, it's okay to talk about those things, but man, I would recommend doing things privately as well because, yeah, because that day, when we come to... When our life's over and we have that chance, I want to make sure that he doesn't say, you had to reward, I want him to say, man, I wasn't expecting that and that would be special for me. So, that's the podcast episode for today.

Myron Golden: Hey, Russel?

Russell: Hey, Myron.

Myron: Do you mind if I chime in on that just a smidge?

Russell: I would love for you to.

Myron: Because I think I can add a little bit of value to what you just said, I think everything you said was phenomenal. But in the context and according to the meaning of the words, I think the word that you were looking for was, how do I reconcile these things?

Russell: Yes. Reconcile. Perfect.

Myron: Yeah. And so, the way you reconcile them is, you have to note when you're studying Bible verses, you have to do keyword studies. And I know this isn't a Bible study, but when you understand that the key word in that verse that you mentioned is that, that's the key word, that. Make sure that when you give your alms, you don't do it that you may be seen of men. In other words, the motive that you have should not be, there's nothing wrong with people seeing you give, there's nothing wrong with you telling people that you're giving, if you're telling them to give, that you gave and to inspire them to give, as long as your motivation for the giving is not that people see you and think you're awesome.

That's the actual interpretation of what it means when Jesus said, don't give your alms that you may be seen of men. So, I think what you've done with OUR is phenomenal, I think thousands of people have been contributing to OUR because of your example and because you put it out there, but your motivation wasn't that people would think you're cool, right? So, I think that's the key to understanding and reconciling, how do I give and inspire people to give without making me a big deal, so that's all I wanted to share.

Russell: Oh, it was amazing. Myron, you're the best. Thank you for sharing that and yeah, that was amazing.

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]]> 1082 no Keenya Kelly, Myron Golden, and Dan Henry Share Their BIGGEST Marketing Secret LIVE! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/keenya-kelly-myron-golden-and-dan-henry-share-their-biggest-marketing-secret-live Welcome to another guest edition of Marketing Secrets Live! Russell talks to Keenya Kelly about Tick Tock, Myron Golden about challenges, and Dan Henry about high ticket sales. Don’t miss this value packed episode! To be on the next Marketing Secrets Live episode, register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Everyone welcome to the marketing secrets live show. I'm so excited to be here live with you guys. This is kind of a new format we've been doing for our podcast. And if this is your first time on, welcome. If you were listening to the recordings of this later, and you want to come on one of our live shows, make sure you go to clubhousewithrussell.com and come and sign up for the Marketing Secrets Live Clubhouse room. And this is where we're kind of hanging out once a week or so. And it's fun because this format's been different. I've had a chance to bring in speakers and find out their number of marketing secret. Then I have a chance to share the coolest thing I'm thinking about at the time. And then we open up for Q&A at the end. And so those who are live, get your questions ready. We're going to do a Q&A at the end. Again, if you're listening to the recording on the actual podcast, make sure you go and register for the live shows at clubhousewithrussell.com. It'll be a lot of fun. So today we've got a couple of guests I'm going to bring them on here in a second and share their number one marketing secret. But before we do that, of course, we got to lead off with the marketing secrets theme song. So let me queue that up. When we come back, we'll jump right into to our guest panels. So here we go. All right, welcome officially now to the marketing secrets live show. Yhennifer, excited to have you here as always, helping me kind of co-host this and get things kicked off. Looks like our first guest isn't here yet, but I would love if you want to introduce the first guest that we're going to be talking to, and we'll just jump right in if you want to. Yhennifer: Awesome, let's get the party started. Before we introduce our guests, we want to make sure that you guys that are here on this episode, that you click the little plus sign in the bottom and invite your friends. Also, a reminder, we are recording this room and don't forget to follow the speakers on the stage and click the little monopoly house on the top and follow the Marketing Secrets Club here so that you can get a notification where we go live again. So our first guest speaker is miss Keenya Kelly. Kenya is the CEO of You Brand It, a video marketing consulting firm in San Diego, California. She is a strategist. She is the TikTok queen, and she's been a member of the funnel hacking community since 2017. Welcome Keenya and Russell, I'll pass it on to you Russell: Keenya. So excited to have you here since 2017. That's crazy. You've been around for a long time. I've been watching you for a long time closely for the last probably two or three weeks, which has been so much fun. So excited to have you on the show first off and welcome. How are you feeling today? Keenya Kelly: I am feeling super good. I'm actually in Mexico celebrating my 40th birthday. So I'm feeling real good. Russell: Very cool. Congratulations. Happy 40. I hit my 40th last year. So far, I remember when I was a kid, I thought when my parents turned 40, I was like, "They're almost dead." I was really concerned. And now as a 40 year old, I feel like I'm just starting. So it's different when you get older, isn't it. Keenya: It sure is. I'm like, I'm just getting started up in here, you know what I'm saying? Russell: Very cool. Well, what I want to ask you right now. This is the question I ask all the guests here on the Marketing Secrets Live show, is what is your biggest marketing secret that you are doing right now inside of your business? So we can all hear and learn from it. Keenya: Absolutely. So my biggest secret is TikTok. And I know some people are already like, they're like fading out, but don't fade out. I built my business initially from Facebook and Instagram and in 2020, I'm somebody who prays for strategies. And I heard God tell me to get off to TikTok, which I thought was insane, but I was like, "I'm just going to try." I was like, "Maybe I'm just dealing with whatever because of the pandemic." So I get on to TikTok and initially I'm dancing like everybody else. But then it clicked. This is the newest social media platform that marketers are going to run to. And so in the midst of everything that happened in 2020, I just kept creating content. And fast forward a year later, 450,000 followers, we added an additional $300,000 to my business and it's just been incredible. And now I'm this "influencer". And I'm like, "I never thought that I would be an influencer, but now I am." Russell: That's interesting. So you started with doing dances, like a lot of people do in TikTok. I'm curious, what was the transition like? What were some things you did that helped it to grow or helped get the following, actually make money from it? Keenya: For sure. So what happened was that I was going viral with some of the dances and just being my personality. And I ended up seeing somebody, I can't remember who it was that was marketing and they clicked. And I immediately transitioned. I said, I do love to dance. I do love to have fun. I'm going to take some of these trends and start teaching. So I started doing a little bit of dancing, but I would talk while I was dancing or I would have texts on screen. And I started driving people to the link in my bio to jump on my email list, to buy my courses. And I ended up, like I have a book, a business book called Before You Quit Your Job. And I ended up selling way more books on TikTok than I was anywhere else. And so I just kept doing that. I was like, this is a creative platform. Be creative, have fun, but teach in the way that TikTok's community is. And that is what happened. Russell: That's awesome. It's interesting. I'm not a big TikToker yet, but my kids are. And so I remember when I was trying to understand the platform. I said, "I'm just going to watch my kids and see what they're doing and why they're doing it, to understand them." And it was fascinating because my daughter, she started growing her TikTok channel slowly. And I remember at first she would be like, "I got 30 followers. I got 50." She was so excited, and then what she did, this is super interesting. She set up a second profile and there's a name for it. I think it's like a thing that TikTokers do, I don't know. You may know more than me, but she covered up her face, and it was like, people had to guess who she was. So she did these dances where you can't see her face and people started guessing. And that channel blew up to like 50 or 60,000 people. And she kept building towards the big reveal. As soon as I get X amount of people, I'm to reveal who I am. And so she got to that point and then she revealed who she was and she pushed everyone to her main channel. And she had like almost 30,000 people move over there, follow her on her main channel. And now my daughter's like, "I'm an influencer dad." I'm like, "No, not my daughter. No." But it was just that interesting strategy to watch how she did that. How just some of the different techniques and things to start growing. And I think for anybody, especially someone like me who hasn't really gotten good with the platform yet, it's like find people who are using it and just watch them. That's how we started learning YouTube. I started learning other things is just watching how people who do love the platform, what they're doing and how they're doing it. It sounds like you had something similar, you were doing it just for fun. And then you started seeing other people transitioning. Okay. I see how this is going to work now for my business as well. Keenya: Yeah, absolutely. I knew it was something because social media always starts out entertaining. It just does. And then it usually starts out with the younger generation. And so when I got there, I was like, "There is something to this." And I slowly started going, "This is going to be the wave of marketing." And now here we are 2021 and Facebook just launched their short video and everything else has short video. Russell: Yeah. Super interesting. Well, awesome. Thanks for coming on the live show and sharing that it makes me want to go... I'm about to head on family vacation. So my goal is to TikTok my daughter at least three times over the next week and a half. So those who want to follow my TikTok, go find me. I'm only like at 500 followers. So go follow me and you'll see me start trying to practice what we're preaching. So thank you Keenya so much for coming on and sharing. Super grateful for you. Keenya: Thank you so much. Yhennifer: Awesome. Thank you, Keenya. You are awesome. I'm so excited that you were here. All right. So now we have Myron Golden. Myron is a high in demand speaker, trainer in areas of sales, marketing, business development. I think he doesn't even need an introduction because I mean, all the funnel hackers here know who he is, but we had to give him this special introduction. He's also a bestselling author. And I don't know if you guys know this, but he's a songwriter and an owner of a record label. Welcome Myron to the marketing secrets podcast. Back to you, Russell. Russell: What's up Myron. How are you doing, man? Myron Golden: What's up Russell? Good to see you brother. Good to see you. I forgot about this call. Don't tell anybody I said that. Russell: You're live right now… Myron: I'm at the golf course. Russell: Are you golfing right now? Myron: I'm at the golf course, but it's all good, I'm here. Russell: Well, thanks for jumping on. Myron: Good to see you bro, always good Russell: We're only on for a minute or so. So well, first off Myron, you, as you know, you're one of my favorite humans on this planet. Just been so grateful for you. The last few years hanging out often has been some of the highlights in my life. So grateful for you. And the biggest thing on the marketing seekers live show. So we can get you back to golfing, but my only question for you is, what is right now in your business the number one marketing secret. Of all the things you're doing, obviously you're doing a lot of things, but if you could say, this is my number one marketing secret right now, what would that be that you can share with everybody? Myron: Well, my number one marketing secret right now is we've got a challenge to a bootcamp. And what we do is we do a five-day challenge. It's $97 for general admission. It's $297 for VIP and we do it to a split offer, which people say you shouldn't do, but it's working really well for us. So if people are making more than 20,000 a month, we send them to our application for our inner circle. If they're making less than 20,000 a month, we send them to the application for our offer mastery coaching. Where we teach people how to create offers and do challenges. And we've got students right now. We just did our first one at the end of February, beginning of March. And we've got one guy from our first challenge who's already done two challenges and done over $300,000. We've got another lady who's never sold anything high ticket before, her very first challenge she did like $24,000. So people are just crushing it. So that's what we're doing. We're doing a challenge to a $21,000 coaching program and or to our inner circle. And it's done for us so far over $2 million this year. That's Russell: That's awesome. It feels like this year has been- Myron: That's my number one secret. Russell: It feels like this year has been the year of challenges for people, which has been really, really fascinating. And people use it for different ways, right? We use challenges, people in software. Other people using challenges, so there are courses. And you're going from challenge straight to super high ticket, which is fascinating. Now you said also your challenge is a paid challenge of friends, is that what you said? Myron: Oh yeah, paid. Russell: Okay. Myron: It's paid, it's $97 for the general admission and 297 for VIP. Russell: And then what's the... Two follow up questions. Number one. What's the name of your challenge? And then is the challenge happening live throughout the week or is it prerecorded or how do you structure that? He's on the golf course, so it's breaking up a little bit, but so we said it is live and then the other question was just, what was the actual name of your challenge? We can go funnel hacking, go sign up for it. Myron: Yeah. So the name of the challenge is the Make More Offers challenge because I teach people the number one challenge, the number one problem, most business owners have. They don't make enough offers. So I teach them to make more offers and to make more money. And so Make More Offers Challenge and yeah, it's a paid challenge. One $97 for the general mission, 297 for VIP. Russell: Awesome. Well, thank you, Myron. Appreciate jumping on. I hear the birds in the background, you should get back to golfing. Thanks for jumping on real quick and sharing your biggest marketing secret. And I'm grateful for you as always. And just as a side note for everyone who's listening, the Make More Offers challenge, that's a cool name. If you think about the people in this game who have the most success, honestly, are the ones who make the most offers, right? They're trying different things. We just did a very fascinating study with our ClickFunnels data, went through man, like one and a half million people have signed up for ClickFunnels trial over time. And it's crazy, if someone joins ClickFunnels and they buy at least one thing from it. It could be a book, it could be a $7 report, it could be anything, their stick rate triples. And so a lot of times you might go, "Well, I just sell one thing." It's like, yeah, but the more offers you make, the better buyers they become. I remember TJ Rohleder who is one of my mentors in direct mail. And he's brilliant marketer, but essentially you can go and you can actually rent his buyer list. Where you can send his buyers your offers in the mail. And I told him like, "Aren't you worried if other people were making offers to your buyers, they're going to quit buying from you?" And he said, "No, no. You're looking at it backwards." He's like the more people buy, he said buyers stay in motion. And the more they buy, the more they'll continue to buy. So he's like, "I'm going to sell my people stuff, but I want other people to sell them stuff as well, because if they're buying somebody else's offer, they're more likely to buy mine as well because buyers like to buy stuff." And he's like, "If they stop buying, that's worse." He's like, "If I don't send them something in the mail each week, if they're not getting other offers, so they're not continuing to buy. They actually cool off and they become worse buyers over time." And so it's fascinating for us looking at the data from seven years now. It's like, if they've purchased anything from me, like a book, anything, they seek three times longer on ClickFunnels than if they just sign up for ClickFunnels and that's it. So make more offers. We can go on like a two hour podcast just about that alone, how powerful it is. But anyway, so it's awesome. So thank you Myron, for sharing all that. Myron: I'll be happy to jump on and do a two hour podcast with you anytime you’re ready Russell. Russell: Awesome. We'll have to plan that. Well, thank you Myron so much for jumping on, and this has been fun so far. So we've got two guests down. We've got one more to go. Yhennifer, you want to introduce our next guest? Yhennifer: Yes. Awesome. Let me reset the room really quickly, guys. If you're finding value in this room, please follow the speakers on the panel. Click the little plus sign and invite five friends right there at the bottom. You can also click on the monopoly house at the top where it says Marketing Secrets Live, so that you can follow this club and get a notification when Russell goes live again. All right, the next speaker on up is Dan Henry. Dan is the founder of getclients.com. He's a bestselling author and a eight figure award winner. Welcome Dan to the room today. Dan Henry: Hey, how's it going guys? Russell: Doing awesome. Dan, great to hear from you. Always awesome to hang out and have you on. I would say before we kick this off officially, I think you are probably one of the most colorful characters inside of our community, which makes it fun. Sometimes I get nervous. Sometimes I get excited and back and forth, but always respect and always grateful for you and awesome to have you here. So my question for you that I'm excited to hear your thoughts because you're a deep thinker who goes, sometimes our thoughts counteract each other, which is kind of fun as well. But I'm curious for you right now in your business, in the spot you're at, what is the biggest marketing secret that you're finding right now that's working for you guys? Dan: Well, I've always, as you know, Russell, I've always used polarity to... But that's something I've used for years, and I always say if you make enough noise, all eyes will be on you, make sure you're selling something. And I think a lot of people think that they don't use polarity or if they use polarity they're going to turn off a bunch of people. But that's the thing, is you use polarity in your daily life whether you intend to or not. If you go to church and you walk out of that church, an atheist is going to drive by and be like, "That guy sucks." And vice versa. It's like, if you go to the gym and you're in shape, somebody who's not shape is going to look at you and be jealous. You're polarizing anyway. So you might as well get paid for it. And so of the things that we made a radical, radical shift in our business was what I like to call, and I learned from you, the value ladder. I would call this sort of the reverse value ladder. So we start with high ticket. I pretty much don't build a value ladder until I hit at least one million with a high ticket offer. Because the way I view it, if you're good enough, if your offer is good enough to book calls and close sales and do well, it's the engine, right? The other stuff around it is the fuel that pours into the engine. So what we did was we started selling high ticket only, and it just radically transformed our business. And then I tacked the book on and some low ticket products to fuel it, to scale it even further. And we've been able to, I mean, I'm not on social media that much anymore. I'm not that active anymore, and we've done... We have million-dollar days, we have million-dollar weeks. I just launched a hundred-thousand-dollar offer within like hours, landed a client for that. I mean, and everything else just supports that. And I think a lot of people don't realize that there are two segments of the market. There are low ticket buyers and there are high ticket buyers. Low ticket buyers either won't buy your high ticket ever, or they require multiple products, multiple touch points, months, and months, or even years of following to ascend them to be a high ticket buyer. And that's true and that works, but there's also a segment of the market that are already high ticket buyers. That are ready to pay you a high ticket price right now, and nobody markets to them. Because almost every book, almost every guru out there, almost every direct response marketer, talks about low ticket and the language of low ticket buyers. So those high ticket buyers they're already ready to buy. It's literally a blue ocean, but most people don't know how to talk to them. So what I did is I literally deleted all my low ticket stuff. I started speaking to the high ticket buyers first. I still use polarity, that still works. And then once I've tapped into that fully and the machine is oiled, then I tacked in the low ticket stuff. To take those low ticket buyers and turn them into high ticket buyers. But going after high ticket buyers first as a priority changed everything Russell: Awesome. I actually a hundred percent agree with that. It's interesting. One of my biggest fears when I teach people the value ladder is number one, is that they don't do anything until they've got all the offers and all the value ladder built out, which is the wrong thing. Number two, they start with the, I'm going to go write a book then, which is the hardest thing, as you know. You've written a book too. Of all the things, it's the hardest, and it's the hardest to make profitable. Whereas if someone leads with a higher ticket, a webinar or a high ticket offer, you have more room to mess things up, right? Because you sell one 10,000 or 20,000 whatever client, you can do a lot of things wrong. You can mess up on the ads and mess up on the copy and everything you used in one person and it cleans up all the mess, right? And so typically, like you said, it's easier to get some of that to work out of the gate and then scale-out to call them a cup of whatever that is. And then coming back and saying, "Hey, I need more ways to bring people into this offer." And that's when a book offer does well, or things like that. Hormozi did the same thing, he had his high ticket thing, killing it. And then he wrote a book and then his book offer, if you guys go through his book offer, he doesn't have anything else to say. So you buy the book, and the next page is like, cool you bought the book. Apply now for the high ticket coaching. And he did find that he was able to get more buyers coming in that way, but it was leading with the high ticket. And I think for most people, especially if you're getting started, this is one of the easier, faster ways. I think the biggest problem people have a lot of times is just the belief that they can actually sell high ticket when they're first beginning, which is probably more of the problem. But man, the metrics and the math make way more sense when you lead with that, for sure. Dan: That's who got me into high ticket originally, it was Hormozy. I met him backstage at a ClickFunnels event and he's like, "Dan, how much money did you make this month?" And I'm like, "One million." And he's like, "How much did you spend?" I'm like, "700,000." And he's like, "Cool. I made like two million and I spent like a hundred grand." I'm like, "You must be so good at Facebook ads." And he's like, "No, I suck at Facebook ads. My cheapest offer is 16 grand." And my mind just exploded when he said that. And ever since then, everything I've done has been revolving around that. But I want to make a point. You said that your biggest fear was that people do the value ladder wrong. And I think that's a point that everybody needs to hear. There's a difference between learning what to do, how to do it and how to do it well, how to execute it. And I will tell you, most people funnel hacking, value ladder. They do it wrong. They want to build out the whole thing first or instead of modeling someone's funnel, they just go and copy it word for word. And they don't realize that there's what to do, there's how to do it and how to do it well. I think that's a big thing, is the stuff you teach. I mean, you were the person that got me started in this game. I made $25 million and it has literally started from the moment I saw you on an ad going, "Buy my dotcom secrets book." And I bought that book, and now what, I don't know, five, whatever, how many ever years later, four years, five years, I've made $25 million. And I'll tell you that if I were to say one thing, that is the difference between people who make it and people who don't, is a lack of comprehension. Nobody gives effort into comprehending what somebody says. They just look at it and go, "Okay, cool." And then they don't really go, "Okay, why does this work? What's the science behind this?" And they just take a superficial action. So I think your stuff is amazing, Russell. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be here right now. But I do think people need to put more effort into understanding how to do it well. Russell: A hundred percent. Yep. People look to service level. There's a method to this and if you go deeper, you can see why it works, not just how it works so. Well, awesome, man. Well, thank you, Dan. Thank you, Keenya. Thank you, Myron, for jumping on the first half of the Marketing Secrets Live show. For those who are on live, this is fun. So we're going to have two more sessions of this live podcast. If you're listening to the recording of this, make sure you go to clubhousewithrussell.com. Go and register and that way in the future, when we go live, you'll get notified on your phone. And you come hang out with us live and have some fun. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 05 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Keenya Kelly, Myron Golden, and Dan Henry Share Their BIGGEST Marketing Secret LIVE! full 428 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to another guest edition of Marketing Secrets Live! Russell talks to Keenya Kelly about Tick Tock, Myron Golden about challenges, and Dan Henry about high ticket sales. Don’t miss this value packed episode! To be on the next Marketing... Welcome to another guest edition of Marketing Secrets Live! Russell talks to Keenya Kelly about Tick Tock, Myron Golden about challenges, and Dan Henry about high ticket sales. Don’t miss this value packed episode! To be on the next Marketing Secrets Live episode, register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Everyone welcome to the marketing secrets live show. I'm so excited to be here live with you guys. This is kind of a new format we've been doing for our podcast. And if this is your first time on, welcome. If you were listening to the recordings of this later, and you want to come on one of our live shows, make sure you go to clubhousewithrussell.com and come and sign up for the Marketing Secrets Live Clubhouse room. And this is where we're kind of hanging out once a week or so. And it's fun because this format's been different. I've had a chance to bring in speakers and find out their number of marketing secret. Then I have a chance to share the coolest thing I'm thinking about at the time. And then we open up for Q&A at the end. And so those who are live, get your questions ready. We're going to do a Q&A at the end. Again, if you're listening to the recording on the actual podcast, make sure you go and register for the live shows at clubhousewithrussell.com. It'll be a lot of fun. So today we've got a couple of guests I'm going to bring them on here in a second and share their number one marketing secret. But before we do that, of course, we got to lead off with the marketing secrets theme song. So let me queue that up. When we come back, we'll jump right into to our guest panels. So here we go. All right, welcome officially now to the marketing secrets live show. Yhennifer, excited to have you here as always, helping me kind of co-host this and get things kicked off. Looks like our first guest isn't here yet, but I would love if you want to introduce the first guest that we're going to be talking to, and we'll just jump right in if you want to. Yhennifer: Awesome, let's get the party started. Before we introduce our guests, we want to make sure that you guys that are here on this episode, that you click the little plus sign in the bottom and invite your friends. Also, a reminder, we are recording this room and don't forget to follow the speakers on the stage and click the little monopoly house on the top and follow the Marketing Secrets Club here so that you can get a notification where we go live again. So our first guest speaker is miss Keenya Kelly. Kenya is the CEO of You Brand It, a video marketing consulting firm in San Diego, California. She is a strategist. She is the TikTok queen, and she's been a member of the funnel hacking community since 2017. Welcome Keenya and Russell, I'll pass it on to you Russell: Keenya. So excited to have you here since 2017. That's crazy. You've been around for a long time. I've been watching you for a long time closely for the last probably two or three weeks, which has been so much fun. So excited to have you on the show first off and welcome. How are you feeling today? Keenya Kelly: I am feeling super good. I'm actually in Mexico celebrating my 40th birthday. So I'm feeling real good. Russell: Very cool. Congratulations. Happy 40. I hit my 40th last year. So far, I remember when I was a kid, I thought when my parents turned 40, I was like, "They're almost dead." I was really concerned. And now as a 40 year old, I feel like I'm just starting. So it's different when you get older, isn't it. Keenya: It sure is. I'm like, I'm just getting started up in here, you know what I'm saying? Russell: Very cool. Well, what I want to ask you right now. This is the question I ask all the guests here on the Marketing Secrets Live show, is what is your biggest marketing secret that you are doing right now inside of your business? So we can all hear and learn from it. Keenya: Absolutely. So my biggest secret is TikTok. And I know some people are already like, they're like fading out, but don't fade out. I built my business initially from Facebook and Instagram and in 2020, I'm somebody who prays for strategies. And I heard God tell me to get off to TikTok, which I thought was insane, but I was like, "I'm just going to try." I was like, "Maybe I'm just dealing with whatever because of the pandemic." So I get on to TikTok and initially I'm dancing like everybody else. But then it clicked. This is the newest social media platform that marketers are going to run to. And so in the midst of everything that happened in 2020, I just kept creating content. And fast forward a year later, 450,000 followers, we added an additional $300,000 to my business and it's just been incredible. And now I'm this "influencer". And I'm like, "I never thought that I would be an influencer, but now I am." Russell: That's interesting. So you started with doing dances, like a lot of people do in TikTok. I'm curious, what was the transition like? What were some things you did that helped it to grow or helped get the following, actually make money from it? Keenya: For sure. So what happened was that I was going viral with some of the dances and just being my personality. And I ended up seeing somebody, I can't remember who it was that was marketing and they clicked. And I immediately transitioned. I said, I do love to dance. I do love to have fun. I'm going to take some of these trends and start teaching. So I started doing a little bit of dancing, but I would talk while I was dancing or I would have texts on screen. And I started driving people to the link in my bio to jump on my email list, to buy my courses. And I ended up, like I have a book, a business book called Before You Quit Your Job. And I ended up selling way more books on TikTok than I was anywhere else. And so I just kept doing that. I was like, this is a creative platform. Be creative, have fun, but teach in the way that TikTok's community is. And that is what happened. Russell: That's awesome. It's interesting. I'm not a big TikToker yet, but my kids are. And so I remember when I was trying to understand the platform. I said, "I'm just going to watch my kids and see what they're doing and why they're doing it, to understand them." And it was fascinating because my daughter, she started growing her TikTok channel slowly. And I remember at first she would be like, "I got 30 followers. I got 50." She was so excited, and then what she did, this is super interesting. She set up a second profile and there's a name for it. I think it's like a thing that TikTokers do, I don't know. You may know more than me, but she covered up her face, and it was like, people had to guess who she was. So she did these dances where you can't see her face and people started guessing. And that channel blew up to like 50 or 60,000 people. And she kept building towards the big reveal. As soon as I get X amount of people, I'm to reveal who I am. And so she got to that point and then she revealed who she was and she pushed everyone to her main channel. And she had like almost 30,000 people move over there, follow her on her main channel. And now my daughter's like, "I'm an influencer dad." I'm like, "No, not my daughter. No." But it was just that interesting strategy to watch how she did that. How just some of the different techniques and things to start growing. And I think for anybody, especially someone like me who hasn't really gotten good with the platform yet, it's like find people who are using it and just watch them. That's how we started learning YouTube. I started learning other things is just watching how people who do love the platform, what they're doing and how they're doing it. It sounds like you had something similar, you were doing it just for fun. And then you started seeing other people transitioning. Okay. I see how this is going to work now for my business as well. Keenya: Yeah, absolutely. I knew it was something because social media always starts out entertaining. It just does. And then it usually starts out with the younger generation. And so when I got there, I was like, "There is something to this." And I slowly started going, "This is going to be the wave of marketing." And now here we are 2021 and Facebook just launched their short video and everything else has short video. Russell: Yeah. Super interesting. Well, awesome. Thanks for coming on the live show and sharing that it makes me want to go... I'm about to head on family vacation. So my goal is to TikTok my daughter at least three times over the next week and a half. So those who want to follow my TikTok, go find me. I'm only like at 500 followers. So go follow me and you'll see me start trying to practice what we're preaching. So thank you Keenya so much for coming on and sharing. Super grateful for you. Keenya: Thank you so much. Yhennifer: Awesome. Thank you, Keenya. You are awesome. I'm so excited that you were here. All right. So now we have Myron Golden. Myron is a high in demand speaker, trainer in areas of sales, marketing, business development. I think he doesn't even need an introduction because I mean, all the funnel hackers here know who he is, but we had to give him this special introduction. He's also a bestselling author. And I don't know if you guys know this, but he's a songwriter and an owner of a record label. Welcome Myron to the marketing secrets podcast. Back to you, Russell. Russell: What's up Myron. How are you doing, man? Myron Golden: What's up Russell? Good to see you brother. Good to see you. I forgot about this call. Don't tell anybody I said that. Russell: You're live right now… Myron: I'm at the golf course. Russell: Are you golfing right now? Myron: I'm at the golf course, but it's all good, I'm here. Russell: Well, thanks for jumping on. Myron: Good to see you bro, always good Russell: We're only on for a minute or so. So well, first off Myron, you, as you know, you're one of my favorite humans on this planet. Just been so grateful for you. The last few years hanging out often has been some of the highlights in my life. So grateful for you. And the biggest thing on the marketing seekers live show. So we can get you back to golfing, but my only question for you is, what is right now in your business the number one marketing secret. Of all the things you're doing, obviously you're doing a lot of things, but if you could say, this is my number one marketing secret right now, what would that be that you can share with everybody? Myron: Well, my number one marketing secret right now is we've got a challenge to a bootcamp. And what we do is we do a five-day challenge. It's $97 for general admission. It's $297 for VIP and we do it to a split offer, which people say you shouldn't do, but it's working really well for us. So if people are making more than 20,000 a month, we send them to our application for our inner circle. If they're making less than 20,000 a month, we send them to the application for our offer mastery coaching. Where we teach people how to create offers and do challenges. And we've got students right now. We just did our first one at the end of February, beginning of March. And we've got one guy from our first challenge who's already done two challenges and done over $300,000. We've got another lady who's never sold anything high ticket before, her very first challenge she did like $24,000. So people are just crushing it. So that's what we're doing. We're doing a challenge to a $21,000 coaching program and or to our inner circle. And it's done for us so far over $2 million this year. That's Russell: That's awesome. It feels like this year has been- Myron: That's my number one secret. Russell: It feels like this year has been the year of challenges for people, which has been really, really fascinating. And people use it for different ways, right? We use challenges, people in software. Other people using challenges, so there are courses. And you're going from challenge straight to super high ticket, which is fascinating. Now you said also your challenge is a paid challenge of friends, is that what you said? Myron: Oh yeah, paid. Russell: Okay. Myron: It's paid, it's $97 for the general admission and 297 for VIP. Russell: And then what's the... Two follow up questions. Number one. What's the name of your challenge? And then is the challenge happening live throughout the week or is it prerecorded or how do you structure that? He's on the golf course, so it's breaking up a little bit, but so we said it is live and then the other question was just, what was the actual name of your challenge? We can go funnel hacking, go sign up for it. Myron: Yeah. So the name of the challenge is the Make More Offers challenge because I teach people the number one challenge, the number one problem, most business owners have. They don't make enough offers. So I teach them to make more offers and to make more money. And so Make More Offers Challenge and yeah, it's a paid challenge. One $97 for the general mission, 297 for VIP. Russell: Awesome. Well, thank you, Myron. Appreciate jumping on. I hear the birds in the background, you should get back to golfing. Thanks for jumping on real quick and sharing your biggest marketing secret. And I'm grateful for you as always. And just as a side note for everyone who's listening, the Make More Offers challenge, that's a cool name. If you think about the people in this game who have the most success, honestly, are the ones who make the most offers, right? They're trying different things. We just did a very fascinating study with our ClickFunnels data, went through man, like one and a half million people have signed up for ClickFunnels trial over time. And it's crazy, if someone joins ClickFunnels and they buy at least one thing from it. It could be a book, it could be a $7 report, it could be anything, their stick rate triples. And so a lot of times you might go, "Well, I just sell one thing." It's like, yeah, but the more offers you make, the better buyers they become. I remember TJ Rohleder who is one of my mentors in direct mail. And he's brilliant marketer, but essentially you can go and you can actually rent his buyer list. Where you can send his buyers your offers in the mail. And I told him like, "Aren't you worried if other people were making offers to your buyers, they're going to quit buying from you?" And he said, "No, no. You're looking at it backwards." He's like the more people buy, he said buyers stay in motion. And the more they buy, the more they'll continue to buy. So he's like, "I'm going to sell my people stuff, but I want other people to sell them stuff as well, because if they're buying somebody else's offer, they're more likely to buy mine as well because buyers like to buy stuff." And he's like, "If they stop buying, that's worse." He's like, "If I don't send them something in the mail each week, if they're not getting other offers, so they're not continuing to buy. They actually cool off and they become worse buyers over time." And so it's fascinating for us looking at the data from seven years now. It's like, if they've purchased anything from me, like a book, anything, they seek three times longer on ClickFunnels than if they just sign up for ClickFunnels and that's it. So make more offers. We can go on like a two hour podcast just about that alone, how powerful it is. But anyway, so it's awesome. So thank you Myron, for sharing all that. Myron: I'll be happy to jump on and do a two hour podcast with you anytime you’re ready Russell. Russell: Awesome. We'll have to plan that. Well, thank you Myron so much for jumping on, and this has been fun so far. So we've got two guests down. We've got one more to go. Yhennifer, you want to introduce our next guest? Yhennifer: Yes. Awesome. Let me reset the room really quickly, guys. If you're finding value in this room, please follow the speakers on the panel. Click the little plus sign and invite five friends right there at the bottom. You can also click on the monopoly house at the top where it says Marketing Secrets Live, so that you can follow this club and get a notification when Russell goes live again. All right, the next speaker on up is Dan Henry. Dan is the founder of getclients.com. He's a bestselling author and a eight figure award winner. Welcome Dan to the room today. Dan Henry: Hey, how's it going guys? Russell: Doing awesome. Dan, great to hear from you. Always awesome to hang out and have you on. I would say before we kick this off officially, I think you are probably one of the most colorful characters inside of our community, which makes it fun. Sometimes I get nervous. Sometimes I get excited and back and forth, but always respect and always grateful for you and awesome to have you here. So my question for you that I'm excited to hear your thoughts because you're a deep thinker who goes, sometimes our thoughts counteract each other, which is kind of fun as well. But I'm curious for you right now in your business, in the spot you're at, what is the biggest marketing secret that you're finding right now that's working for you guys? Dan: Well, I've always, as you know, Russell, I've always used polarity to... But that's something I've used for years, and I always say if you make enough noise, all eyes will be on you, make sure you're selling something. And I think a lot of people think that they don't use polarity or if they use polarity they're going to turn off a bunch of people. But that's the thing, is you use polarity in your daily life whether you intend to or not. If you go to church and you walk out of that church, an atheist is going to drive by and be like, "That guy sucks." And vice versa. It's like, if you go to the gym and you're in shape, somebody who's not shape is going to look at you and be jealous. You're polarizing anyway. So you might as well get paid for it. And so of the things that we made a radical, radical shift in our business was what I like to call, and I learned from you, the value ladder. I would call this sort of the reverse value ladder. So we start with high ticket. I pretty much don't build a value ladder until I hit at least one million with a high ticket offer. Because the way I view it, if you're good enough, if your offer is good enough to book calls and close sales and do well, it's the engine, right? The other stuff around it is the fuel that pours into the engine. So what we did was we started selling high ticket only, and it just radically transformed our business. And then I tacked the book on and some low ticket products to fuel it, to scale it even further. And we've been able to, I mean, I'm not on social media that much anymore. I'm not that active anymore, and we've done... We have million-dollar days, we have million-dollar weeks. I just launched a hundred-thousand-dollar offer within like hours, landed a client for that. I mean, and everything else just supports that. And I think a lot of people don't realize that there are two segments of the market. There are low ticket buyers and there are high ticket buyers. Low ticket buyers either won't buy your high ticket ever, or they require multiple products, multiple touch points, months, and months, or even years of following to ascend them to be a high ticket buyer. And that's true and that works, but there's also a segment of the market that are already high ticket buyers. That are ready to pay you a high ticket price right now, and nobody markets to them. Because almost every book, almost every guru out there, almost every direct response marketer, talks about low ticket and the language of low ticket buyers. So those high ticket buyers they're already ready to buy. It's literally a blue ocean, but most people don't know how to talk to them. So what I did is I literally deleted all my low ticket stuff. I started speaking to the high ticket buyers first. I still use polarity, that still works. And then once I've tapped into that fully and the machine is oiled, then I tacked in the low ticket stuff. To take those low ticket buyers and turn them into high ticket buyers. But going after high ticket buyers first as a priority changed everything Russell: Awesome. I actually a hundred percent agree with that. It's interesting. One of my biggest fears when I teach people the value ladder is number one, is that they don't do anything until they've got all the offers and all the value ladder built out, which is the wrong thing. Number two, they start with the, I'm going to go write a book then, which is the hardest thing, as you know. You've written a book too. Of all the things, it's the hardest, and it's the hardest to make profitable. Whereas if someone leads with a higher ticket, a webinar or a high ticket offer, you have more room to mess things up, right? Because you sell one 10,000 or 20,000 whatever client, you can do a lot of things wrong. You can mess up on the ads and mess up on the copy and everything you used in one person and it cleans up all the mess, right? And so typically, like you said, it's easier to get some of that to work out of the gate and then scale-out to call them a cup of whatever that is. And then coming back and saying, "Hey, I need more ways to bring people into this offer." And that's when a book offer does well, or things like that. Hormozi did the same thing, he had his high ticket thing, killing it. And then he wrote a book and then his book offer, if you guys go through his book offer, he doesn't have anything else to say. So you buy the book, and the next page is like, cool you bought the book. Apply now for the high ticket coaching. And he did find that he was able to get more buyers coming in that way, but it was leading with the high ticket. And I think for most people, especially if you're getting started, this is one of the easier, faster ways. I think the biggest problem people have a lot of times is just the belief that they can actually sell high ticket when they're first beginning, which is probably more of the problem. But man, the metrics and the math make way more sense when you lead with that, for sure. Dan: That's who got me into high ticket originally, it was Hormozy. I met him backstage at a ClickFunnels event and he's like, "Dan, how much money did you make this month?" And I'm like, "One million." And he's like, "How much did you spend?" I'm like, "700,000." And he's like, "Cool. I made like two million and I spent like a hundred grand." I'm like, "You must be so good at Facebook ads." And he's like, "No, I suck at Facebook ads. My cheapest offer is 16 grand." And my mind just exploded when he said that. And ever since then, everything I've done has been revolving around that. But I want to make a point. You said that your biggest fear was that people do the value ladder wrong. And I think that's a point that everybody needs to hear. There's a difference between learning what to do, how to do it and how to do it well, how to execute it. And I will tell you, most people funnel hacking, value ladder. They do it wrong. They want to build out the whole thing first or instead of modeling someone's funnel, they just go and copy it word for word. And they don't realize that there's what to do, there's how to do it and how to do it well. I think that's a big thing, is the stuff you teach. I mean, you were the person that got me started in this game. I made $25 million and it has literally started from the moment I saw you on an ad going, "Buy my dotcom secrets book." And I bought that book, and now what, I don't know, five, whatever, how many ever years later, four years, five years, I've made $25 million. And I'll tell you that if I were to say one thing, that is the difference between people who make it and people who don't, is a lack of comprehension. Nobody gives effort into comprehending what somebody says. They just look at it and go, "Okay, cool." And then they don't really go, "Okay, why does this work? What's the science behind this?" And they just take a superficial action. So I think your stuff is amazing, Russell. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be here right now. But I do think people need to put more effort into understanding how to do it well. Russell: A hundred percent. Yep. People look to service level. There's a method to this and if you go deeper, you can see why it works, not just how it works so. Well, awesome, man. Well, thank you, Dan. Thank you, Keenya. Thank you, Myron, for jumping on the first half of the Marketing Secrets Live show. For those who are on live, this is fun. So we're going to have two more sessions of this live podcast. If you're listening to the recording of this, make sure you go to clubhousewithrussell.com. 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Russell Brunson: Everyone welcome to the marketing secrets live show. I'm so excited to be here live with you guys. This is kind of a new format we've been doing for our podcast. And if this is your first time on, welcome. If you were listening to the recordings of this later, and you want to come on one of our live shows, make sure you go to clubhousewithrussell.com and come and sign up for the Marketing Secrets Live Clubhouse room. And this is where we're kind of hanging out once a week or so. And it's fun because this format's been different. I've had a chance to bring in speakers and find out their number of marketing secret. Then I have a chance to share the coolest thing I'm thinking about at the time. And then we open up for Q&A at the end. And so those who are live, get your questions ready. We're going to do a Q&A at the end.

Again, if you're listening to the recording on the actual podcast, make sure you go and register for the live shows at clubhousewithrussell.com. It'll be a lot of fun. So today we've got a couple of guests I'm going to bring them on here in a second and share their number one marketing secret. But before we do that, of course, we got to lead off with the marketing secrets theme song. So let me queue that up. When we come back, we'll jump right into to our guest panels. So here we go. All right, welcome officially now to the marketing secrets live show. Yhennifer, excited to have you here as always, helping me kind of co-host this and get things kicked off. Looks like our first guest isn't here yet, but I would love if you want to introduce the first guest that we're going to be talking to, and we'll just jump right in if you want to.

Yhennifer: Awesome, let's get the party started. Before we introduce our guests, we want to make sure that you guys that are here on this episode, that you click the little plus sign in the bottom and invite your friends. Also, a reminder, we are recording this room and don't forget to follow the speakers on the stage and click the little monopoly house on the top and follow the Marketing Secrets Club here so that you can get a notification where we go live again. So our first guest speaker is miss Keenya Kelly. Kenya is the CEO of You Brand It, a video marketing consulting firm in San Diego, California. She is a strategist. She is the TikTok queen, and she's been a member of the funnel hacking community since 2017. Welcome Keenya and Russell, I'll pass it on to you

Russell: Keenya. So excited to have you here since 2017. That's crazy. You've been around for a long time. I've been watching you for a long time closely for the last probably two or three weeks, which has been so much fun. So excited to have you on the show first off and welcome. How are you feeling today?

Keenya Kelly: I am feeling super good. I'm actually in Mexico celebrating my 40th birthday. So I'm feeling real good.

Russell: Very cool. Congratulations. Happy 40. I hit my 40th last year. So far, I remember when I was a kid, I thought when my parents turned 40, I was like, "They're almost dead." I was really concerned. And now as a 40 year old, I feel like I'm just starting. So it's different when you get older, isn't it.

Keenya: It sure is. I'm like, I'm just getting started up in here, you know what I'm saying?

Russell: Very cool. Well, what I want to ask you right now. This is the question I ask all the guests here on the Marketing Secrets Live show, is what is your biggest marketing secret that you are doing right now inside of your business? So we can all hear and learn from it.

Keenya: Absolutely. So my biggest secret is TikTok. And I know some people are already like, they're like fading out, but don't fade out. I built my business initially from Facebook and Instagram and in 2020, I'm somebody who prays for strategies. And I heard God tell me to get off to TikTok, which I thought was insane, but I was like, "I'm just going to try." I was like, "Maybe I'm just dealing with whatever because of the pandemic." So I get on to TikTok and initially I'm dancing like everybody else. But then it clicked. This is the newest social media platform that marketers are going to run to. And so in the midst of everything that happened in 2020, I just kept creating content. And fast forward a year later, 450,000 followers, we added an additional $300,000 to my business and it's just been incredible. And now I'm this "influencer". And I'm like, "I never thought that I would be an influencer, but now I am."

Russell: That's interesting. So you started with doing dances, like a lot of people do in TikTok. I'm curious, what was the transition like? What were some things you did that helped it to grow or helped get the following, actually make money from it?

Keenya: For sure. So what happened was that I was going viral with some of the dances and just being my personality. And I ended up seeing somebody, I can't remember who it was that was marketing and they clicked. And I immediately transitioned. I said, I do love to dance. I do love to have fun. I'm going to take some of these trends and start teaching. So I started doing a little bit of dancing, but I would talk while I was dancing or I would have texts on screen. And I started driving people to the link in my bio to jump on my email list, to buy my courses. And I ended up, like I have a book, a business book called Before You Quit Your Job. And I ended up selling way more books on TikTok than I was anywhere else. And so I just kept doing that. I was like, this is a creative platform. Be creative, have fun, but teach in the way that TikTok's community is. And that is what happened.

Russell: That's awesome. It's interesting. I'm not a big TikToker yet, but my kids are. And so I remember when I was trying to understand the platform. I said, "I'm just going to watch my kids and see what they're doing and why they're doing it, to understand them." And it was fascinating because my daughter, she started growing her TikTok channel slowly. And I remember at first she would be like, "I got 30 followers. I got 50." She was so excited, and then what she did, this is super interesting. She set up a second profile and there's a name for it. I think it's like a thing that TikTokers do, I don't know. You may know more than me, but she covered up her face, and it was like, people had to guess who she was. So she did these dances where you can't see her face and people started guessing. And that channel blew up to like 50 or 60,000 people.

And she kept building towards the big reveal. As soon as I get X amount of people, I'm to reveal who I am. And so she got to that point and then she revealed who she was and she pushed everyone to her main channel. And she had like almost 30,000 people move over there, follow her on her main channel. And now my daughter's like, "I'm an influencer dad." I'm like, "No, not my daughter. No." But it was just that interesting strategy to watch how she did that. How just some of the different techniques and things to start growing. And I think for anybody, especially someone like me who hasn't really gotten good with the platform yet, it's like find people who are using it and just watch them. That's how we started learning YouTube. I started learning other things is just watching how people who do love the platform, what they're doing and how they're doing it. It sounds like you had something similar, you were doing it just for fun. And then you started seeing other people transitioning. Okay. I see how this is going to work now for my business as well.

Keenya: Yeah, absolutely. I knew it was something because social media always starts out entertaining. It just does. And then it usually starts out with the younger generation. And so when I got there, I was like, "There is something to this." And I slowly started going, "This is going to be the wave of marketing." And now here we are 2021 and Facebook just launched their short video and everything else has short video.

Russell: Yeah. Super interesting. Well, awesome. Thanks for coming on the live show and sharing that it makes me want to go... I'm about to head on family vacation. So my goal is to TikTok my daughter at least three times over the next week and a half. So those who want to follow my TikTok, go find me. I'm only like at 500 followers. So go follow me and you'll see me start trying to practice what we're preaching. So thank you Keenya so much for coming on and sharing. Super grateful for you.

Keenya: Thank you so much.

Yhennifer: Awesome. Thank you, Keenya. You are awesome. I'm so excited that you were here. All right. So now we have Myron Golden. Myron is a high in demand speaker, trainer in areas of sales, marketing, business development. I think he doesn't even need an introduction because I mean, all the funnel hackers here know who he is, but we had to give him this special introduction. He's also a bestselling author. And I don't know if you guys know this, but he's a songwriter and an owner of a record label. Welcome Myron to the marketing secrets podcast. Back to you, Russell.

Russell: What's up Myron. How are you doing, man?

Myron Golden: What's up Russell? Good to see you brother. Good to see you. I forgot about this call. Don't tell anybody I said that.

Russell: You're live right now…

Myron: I'm at the golf course.

Russell: Are you golfing right now?

Myron: I'm at the golf course, but it's all good, I'm here.

Russell: Well, thanks for jumping on.

Myron: Good to see you bro, always good

Russell: We're only on for a minute or so. So well, first off Myron, you, as you know, you're one of my favorite humans on this planet. Just been so grateful for you. The last few years hanging out often has been some of the highlights in my life. So grateful for you. And the biggest thing on the marketing seekers live show. So we can get you back to golfing, but my only question for you is, what is right now in your business the number one marketing secret. Of all the things you're doing, obviously you're doing a lot of things, but if you could say, this is my number one marketing secret right now, what would that be that you can share with everybody?

Myron: Well, my number one marketing secret right now is we've got a challenge to a bootcamp. And what we do is we do a five-day challenge. It's $97 for general admission. It's $297 for VIP and we do it to a split offer, which people say you shouldn't do, but it's working really well for us. So if people are making more than 20,000 a month, we send them to our application for our inner circle. If they're making less than 20,000 a month, we send them to the application for our offer mastery coaching. Where we teach people how to create offers and do challenges. And we've got students right now. We just did our first one at the end of February, beginning of March. And we've got one guy from our first challenge who's already done two challenges and done over $300,000. We've got another lady who's never sold anything high ticket before, her very first challenge she did like $24,000. So people are just crushing it. So that's what we're doing. We're doing a challenge to a $21,000 coaching program and or to our inner circle. And it's done for us so far over $2 million this year. That's

Russell: That's awesome. It feels like this year has been-

Myron: That's my number one secret.

Russell: It feels like this year has been the year of challenges for people, which has been really, really fascinating. And people use it for different ways, right? We use challenges, people in software. Other people using challenges, so there are courses. And you're going from challenge straight to super high ticket, which is fascinating. Now you said also your challenge is a paid challenge of friends, is that what you said?

Myron: Oh yeah, paid.

Russell: Okay.

Myron: It's paid, it's $97 for the general admission and 297 for VIP.

Russell: And then what's the... Two follow up questions. Number one. What's the name of your challenge? And then is the challenge happening live throughout the week or is it prerecorded or how do you structure that? He's on the golf course, so it's breaking up a little bit, but so we said it is live and then the other question was just, what was the actual name of your challenge? We can go funnel hacking, go sign up for it.

Myron: Yeah. So the name of the challenge is the Make More Offers challenge because I teach people the number one challenge, the number one problem, most business owners have. They don't make enough offers. So I teach them to make more offers and to make more money. And so Make More Offers Challenge and yeah, it's a paid challenge. One $97 for the general mission, 297 for VIP.

Russell: Awesome. Well, thank you, Myron. Appreciate jumping on. I hear the birds in the background, you should get back to golfing. Thanks for jumping on real quick and sharing your biggest marketing secret. And I'm grateful for you as always. And just as a side note for everyone who's listening, the Make More Offers challenge, that's a cool name. If you think about the people in this game who have the most success, honestly, are the ones who make the most offers, right? They're trying different things. We just did a very fascinating study with our ClickFunnels data, went through man, like one and a half million people have signed up for ClickFunnels trial over time. And it's crazy, if someone joins ClickFunnels and they buy at least one thing from it. It could be a book, it could be a $7 report, it could be anything, their stick rate triples.

And so a lot of times you might go, "Well, I just sell one thing." It's like, yeah, but the more offers you make, the better buyers they become. I remember TJ Rohleder who is one of my mentors in direct mail. And he's brilliant marketer, but essentially you can go and you can actually rent his buyer list. Where you can send his buyers your offers in the mail. And I told him like, "Aren't you worried if other people were making offers to your buyers, they're going to quit buying from you?" And he said, "No, no. You're looking at it backwards." He's like the more people buy, he said buyers stay in motion. And the more they buy, the more they'll continue to buy. So he's like, "I'm going to sell my people stuff, but I want other people to sell them stuff as well, because if they're buying somebody else's offer, they're more likely to buy mine as well because buyers like to buy stuff."

And he's like, "If they stop buying, that's worse." He's like, "If I don't send them something in the mail each week, if they're not getting other offers, so they're not continuing to buy. They actually cool off and they become worse buyers over time." And so it's fascinating for us looking at the data from seven years now. It's like, if they've purchased anything from me, like a book, anything, they seek three times longer on ClickFunnels than if they just sign up for ClickFunnels and that's it. So make more offers. We can go on like a two hour podcast just about that alone, how powerful it is. But anyway, so it's awesome. So thank you Myron, for sharing all that.

Myron: I'll be happy to jump on and do a two hour podcast with you anytime you’re ready Russell.

Russell: Awesome. We'll have to plan that. Well, thank you Myron so much for jumping on, and this has been fun so far. So we've got two guests down. We've got one more to go. Yhennifer, you want to introduce our next guest?

Yhennifer: Yes. Awesome. Let me reset the room really quickly, guys. If you're finding value in this room, please follow the speakers on the panel. Click the little plus sign and invite five friends right there at the bottom. You can also click on the monopoly house at the top where it says Marketing Secrets Live, so that you can follow this club and get a notification when Russell goes live again. All right, the next speaker on up is Dan Henry. Dan is the founder of getclients.com. He's a bestselling author and a eight figure award winner. Welcome Dan to the room today.

Dan Henry: Hey, how's it going guys?

Russell: Doing awesome. Dan, great to hear from you. Always awesome to hang out and have you on. I would say before we kick this off officially, I think you are probably one of the most colorful characters inside of our community, which makes it fun. Sometimes I get nervous. Sometimes I get excited and back and forth, but always respect and always grateful for you and awesome to have you here. So my question for you that I'm excited to hear your thoughts because you're a deep thinker who goes, sometimes our thoughts counteract each other, which is kind of fun as well. But I'm curious for you right now in your business, in the spot you're at, what is the biggest marketing secret that you're finding right now that's working for you guys?

Dan: Well, I've always, as you know, Russell, I've always used polarity to... But that's something I've used for years, and I always say if you make enough noise, all eyes will be on you, make sure you're selling something. And I think a lot of people think that they don't use polarity or if they use polarity they're going to turn off a bunch of people. But that's the thing, is you use polarity in your daily life whether you intend to or not. If you go to church and you walk out of that church, an atheist is going to drive by and be like, "That guy sucks." And vice versa. It's like, if you go to the gym and you're in shape, somebody who's not shape is going to look at you and be jealous. You're polarizing anyway. So you might as well get paid for it.

And so of the things that we made a radical, radical shift in our business was what I like to call, and I learned from you, the value ladder. I would call this sort of the reverse value ladder. So we start with high ticket. I pretty much don't build a value ladder until I hit at least one million with a high ticket offer. Because the way I view it, if you're good enough, if your offer is good enough to book calls and close sales and do well, it's the engine, right? The other stuff around it is the fuel that pours into the engine. So what we did was we started selling high ticket only, and it just radically transformed our business. And then I tacked the book on and some low ticket products to fuel it, to scale it even further.

And we've been able to, I mean, I'm not on social media that much anymore. I'm not that active anymore, and we've done... We have million-dollar days, we have million-dollar weeks. I just launched a hundred-thousand-dollar offer within like hours, landed a client for that. I mean, and everything else just supports that. And I think a lot of people don't realize that there are two segments of the market. There are low ticket buyers and there are high ticket buyers. Low ticket buyers either won't buy your high ticket ever, or they require multiple products, multiple touch points, months, and months, or even years of following to ascend them to be a high ticket buyer. And that's true and that works, but there's also a segment of the market that are already high ticket buyers. That are ready to pay you a high ticket price right now, and nobody markets to them.

Because almost every book, almost every guru out there, almost every direct response marketer, talks about low ticket and the language of low ticket buyers. So those high ticket buyers they're already ready to buy. It's literally a blue ocean, but most people don't know how to talk to them. So what I did is I literally deleted all my low ticket stuff. I started speaking to the high ticket buyers first. I still use polarity, that still works. And then once I've tapped into that fully and the machine is oiled, then I tacked in the low ticket stuff. To take those low ticket buyers and turn them into high ticket buyers. But going after high ticket buyers first as a priority changed everything

Russell: Awesome. I actually a hundred percent agree with that. It's interesting. One of my biggest fears when I teach people the value ladder is number one, is that they don't do anything until they've got all the offers and all the value ladder built out, which is the wrong thing. Number two, they start with the, I'm going to go write a book then, which is the hardest thing, as you know. You've written a book too. Of all the things, it's the hardest, and it's the hardest to make profitable. Whereas if someone leads with a higher ticket, a webinar or a high ticket offer, you have more room to mess things up, right? Because you sell one 10,000 or 20,000 whatever client, you can do a lot of things wrong. You can mess up on the ads and mess up on the copy and everything you used in one person and it cleans up all the mess, right?

And so typically, like you said, it's easier to get some of that to work out of the gate and then scale-out to call them a cup of whatever that is. And then coming back and saying, "Hey, I need more ways to bring people into this offer." And that's when a book offer does well, or things like that. Hormozi did the same thing, he had his high ticket thing, killing it. And then he wrote a book and then his book offer, if you guys go through his book offer, he doesn't have anything else to say. So you buy the book, and the next page is like, cool you bought the book. Apply now for the high ticket coaching. And he did find that he was able to get more buyers coming in that way, but it was leading with the high ticket.

And I think for most people, especially if you're getting started, this is one of the easier, faster ways. I think the biggest problem people have a lot of times is just the belief that they can actually sell high ticket when they're first beginning, which is probably more of the problem. But man, the metrics and the math make way more sense when you lead with that, for sure.

Dan: That's who got me into high ticket originally, it was Hormozy. I met him backstage at a ClickFunnels event and he's like, "Dan, how much money did you make this month?" And I'm like, "One million." And he's like, "How much did you spend?" I'm like, "700,000." And he's like, "Cool. I made like two million and I spent like a hundred grand." I'm like, "You must be so good at Facebook ads." And he's like, "No, I suck at Facebook ads. My cheapest offer is 16 grand." And my mind just exploded when he said that. And ever since then, everything I've done has been revolving around that. But I want to make a point. You said that your biggest fear was that people do the value ladder wrong. And I think that's a point that everybody needs to hear.

There's a difference between learning what to do, how to do it and how to do it well, how to execute it. And I will tell you, most people funnel hacking, value ladder. They do it wrong. They want to build out the whole thing first or instead of modeling someone's funnel, they just go and copy it word for word. And they don't realize that there's what to do, there's how to do it and how to do it well. I think that's a big thing, is the stuff you teach. I mean, you were the person that got me started in this game. I made $25 million and it has literally started from the moment I saw you on an ad going, "Buy my dotcom secrets book." And I bought that book, and now what, I don't know, five, whatever, how many ever years later, four years, five years, I've made $25 million.

And I'll tell you that if I were to say one thing, that is the difference between people who make it and people who don't, is a lack of comprehension. Nobody gives effort into comprehending what somebody says. They just look at it and go, "Okay, cool." And then they don't really go, "Okay, why does this work? What's the science behind this?" And they just take a superficial action. So I think your stuff is amazing, Russell. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be here right now. But I do think people need to put more effort into understanding how to do it well.

Russell: A hundred percent. Yep. People look to service level. There's a method to this and if you go deeper, you can see why it works, not just how it works so. Well, awesome, man. Well, thank you, Dan. Thank you, Keenya. Thank you, Myron, for jumping on the first half of the Marketing Secrets Live show. For those who are on live, this is fun. So we're going to have two more sessions of this live podcast. If you're listening to the recording of this, make sure you go to clubhousewithrussell.com. Go and register and that way in the future, when we go live, you'll get notified on your phone. And you come hang out with us live and have some fun.

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]]> 1487 no Return of the Two Page Bridge Funnel https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/return-of-the-two-page-bridge-funnel What to know why I’m freaking out? Listen to this episode to find out. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I'm on my Onewheel, driving to the office. Hopefully, the wind's not too loud. I'll try to talk loud, but forgive me if there's any sound noise. But it takes longer to drive on the Onewheel, so maybe we'll get a longer episode today. I got some cool things I'm excited by, things I want to share with you guys. Yep, there's a car driving by. If you have been long-time listeners, you know that when I first launched this podcast, it was called The Marketing in Your Car podcast. We call today The Marketing on Your Onewheel. With that says, let's keep things going. We'll be right back. All right, everybody. Well, hopefully, you can hear me. The wind hits every once in a while. I'm doing my best. Anyway, so today's episode, what I want to talk about is something fun that I'm geeking out on right now. There's a principle. There's a concept that we've taught over the last, man, 10 ... longer than that, long, long time called the bridge funnel. And a bridge funnel is, basically, when you're trying to bridge the gap between what somebody wants and what somebody needs. Right? For example, everybody in my world needs click funnels. Right? Sometimes it's hard to sell click funnels because it's like, "Well, why do I need software? What's a funnel? I don't even know." Right? So I had to find what's something they want that I can give them right away? And then, by doing that, I can then bridge them over to what they actually need. Whoa. Some guy just drove by in an original Hummer. Sorry. That was really cool. All right. So that's what a bridge is. Right? I'm trying to draw a bridge between these two different things. And I used to share the example to explain this back in the day, back when we were doing more business opportunities stuff. I talked about if you would go to ... let's say you went to the food court at the mall. Right? And at the food court, there's all these people are eating. This is pre-COVID, so there's tons of people eating and tons of noise. And if I sit up on a chair in the food court and I yelled and said, "Hey, everybody! Look over here." And they look at me and I'm like, "Hey, who here wants a funnel to grow your business?" Of everybody in the food court, what percentage of people would raise their hand? And the reality is probably very, very few. Right? Probably nobody. But if I was to stand up on the thing and say, "Hey, who here wants to learn how to make money on the internet." Right? Like two-thirds of the room would raise their hand. And then I can say, "Okay, cool. Come over here." And then I could pull people aside and say, "Okay, the way that we make money on the internet is through this thing called a funnel." And I'm like, "Who here wants a funnel?" And now I can obviously sell them the thing that they actually need. And so that's the concept of a bridge, is you're taking this thing that they need that they may not understand yet, and you're bridging them through something that they do understand. Right? And so, for a long time, we used to do bridge funnels a lot. But over the last few years, as we've grown click funnels, we've done a good job of building a brand and making the popular rising ... I hate to say that word ... making popular the concept of funnels. And so it's not like I have to go and convince people to funnel because most people in my retargeting circles that we target on the internet, at this point, know what it is. And there's a million other people, all teaching talking about funnels. And so it's been really good for us. Right? The more noise, the more people talking about funnels, the better we do. But we're always trying to go beyond the boundaries and try to figure out the next step and the next level. Right? How do we acquire it? How do we get more people? And so recently, we started combing back through all of our data and click funnels. We've got like 100 different front-end offers. And so we've got a lot of data, and it's hard to go through it all. But we now have a business intelligent team who literally go through and just looks at all our data and finds numbers and patterns and things of that forest. And one of the interesting things that we found recently that was fascinating is that of all the front end offers we have, and this is like book funnels, opt-in funnels, webinar funnels, all the things, the funnels where the person is most likely to join click funnels and become a click funnels customer in the first 30 days is actually through one of our ebook funnels, which is crazy, so like the marketing secrets black book and the funnel cookbook. If they opt into those things, download the PDF that we give them, they're most likely to become a click funnels member in the next 30 days, which is crazy, especially since those are two funnels I built four or five years ago. And we haven't touched them or looked at them or done anything with him since. They're literally just like ... I forgot about them. I didn't realize we were driving any traffic to them. And so I was like, "Well, crap. We should look at these again." So we looked at them again, and how do we optimize these now? How do we make something truly amazing? And so I started looking at ... it was interesting because people would opt in for the black box, and we never talked about click funnels. So on the thank-you page, we don't talk about click funnels. It's like ... sorry, more cars coming. Maybe I shouldn't do marketing in the Onewheel. Anyway, so the more I started looking at these funnels, I'm like, "It's insane that they somehow bridge that gap, and they find the people." Because I'm not bridging that gap for them. Right? They're these random funnels we built years ago and forgot about, and they're out there. And so I said, "Okay, we should bring these things back, but let's strategically figure out how do we get somebody now who's going to go through this funnel?" And then, if they download the book, how do we bridge them now over into click funnels? Right? And so that was the next thing we started looking at. So we're going back through all of our webinar funnels, especially since the last couple of months when you've had all the issues with Apple and Facebook fighting, and cookies, and just all the things. Right? All right. Cost has gone up. So we're looking, and right now, it's costing us anywhere from 20 to 25 bucks for a webinar register, which is crazy. But our opt-ins are still lower, like three to five bucks to register. And so anyway, yesterday, I built about for these yesterday with Nick on my team. I had so much fun doing it. But the funnels, these bridge funnels, are very, very simple. Basically, come to the page, and it's like, "Hey, get this free book. Opt-in right here. It's the opt-in for the free book." And then the thank-you page is sweet. There's a video of me saying, "Sweet." I just emailed you the first gift. It's coming to you. I promise you guys the value of this episode is going to be worth all the noise. Anyway, so I said, "The first gift is coming to you. It's in your inbox. Go check it out there." So notice, I didn't give them the downlink on the thank-you page because on the thank-you page, I needed them to do something more important, which was register for the webinar. And the thank-you page is like, "The first gift is in your inbox. The second gift is actually more important. It's a web class I'm putting on called Funnel Hacking Secrets, where we're going to show you guys how to actually use the stuff we're talking about in the book, the ebook that you're getting. And it's going to be awesome." Right? "So go register down below." And the whole page is structured in a way to get them to register for the web class that's coming up. By the way, we tested web class, webinar, masterclass, and like a dozen different variations, and web class crushed all other versions of that phrase. So start calling webinars web classes, and it will help conversion. So there's another little marketing secret for you. So anyway, that's what we've been building, these little bridge funnels. And again, they have not gone live yet, so I don't know the exact stats. But if they stay true and we average five bucks a lead to give away an ebook, right, which, it is what it is. But if we get one out of five people hit the thank-you page and 20% conversion and the thank-you page to register for the webinar, we're actually getting the webinar leads for the same cost as we were paying before. Right? Because 20%, five people, that's 20 bucks. I'm probably doing the math wrong, but $20.00, $25 per webinar registrant. But the thing that's different is that when we pay 25 bucks a webinar registrant, we're getting one lead. Right? Here we're getting five leads. We're giving them value upfront. They're getting an ebook. They're getting a gift. They're opening their email. They're downloading the thing, so It's increasing our open rates, our click-through rates, which will get more email delivered for all of our lists across the board. Right? They're getting value in advance. They get this really cool ebook. They're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing. Look at this cool thing that Russell just gave me." Then they register for the webinar. My thought, I'm not sure yet, but positioning the webinar also as a bonus gift as opposed to like, "Hey, register for a webinar." I think we'll get more people to show up and actually consume it. We'll find out. And now it's bridging them over into the funnel world. So anyway, we built four of these yesterday. The ads will be starting the next day or so. I'll return the report back and let you guys know how they're doing. I have two more that I came up with last night, and I'm like, literally, if this works, any piece of content ever created from the beginning of time until now, I could use, and I could put into these little bridge model things. Right? Like, "Opt-in to get my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live." They opt-in. Cool. I just emailed it to you. That's gift number one. Gift number two, though, gift number two is this web class you need to go register for right now. And then they register down below, and boom, now they're in the webinar funnel. Right? And so anyway, I'm just freaking out excited. And it was so simple, but it's something I've forgotten about. And it's coming back to these ebook bridge funnels, or these content bridge funnels, or these one-pager bridge funnels. Let me do a test today. We're going to build one out for a one-pager. We'll say, "Hey, opt-in here to get the one-pager on my top webinar hacks. They opt-in, boom, "Hey, the one-pagers in your email. Go check it out." And then the second gift is the web class. Right? And just keep this process happening over and over and over and over and over again. So anyway, I'm hoping that it does as good as I think it will. I think it will. I'm going to have six of these rolling out in the next seven days, so if you follow my ads and hopefully you do, you'll start seeing them. And I recommend going through the process, funnel hacking, and watching slowly. They're simple two-page funnels that lead to our webinar. And then, the email sequence pushes people to click funnels as well as the webinar. So anyway, highly recommend watching it. I'll report back on how it does, but I think it's going to open up a whole new world of customers and buyers and just exciting things for us. So I'm excited for it. I appreciate you guys listening. Hope you all are doing amazing, and we'll talk to you soon. All right. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Return of the Two Page Bridge Funnel full 427 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What to know why I’m freaking out? Listen to this episode to find out. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing... What to know why I’m freaking out? Listen to this episode to find out. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I'm on my Onewheel, driving to the office. Hopefully, the wind's not too loud. I'll try to talk loud, but forgive me if there's any sound noise. But it takes longer to drive on the Onewheel, so maybe we'll get a longer episode today. I got some cool things I'm excited by, things I want to share with you guys. Yep, there's a car driving by. If you have been long-time listeners, you know that when I first launched this podcast, it was called The Marketing in Your Car podcast. We call today The Marketing on Your Onewheel. With that says, let's keep things going. We'll be right back. All right, everybody. Well, hopefully, you can hear me. The wind hits every once in a while. I'm doing my best. Anyway, so today's episode, what I want to talk about is something fun that I'm geeking out on right now. There's a principle. There's a concept that we've taught over the last, man, 10 ... longer than that, long, long time called the bridge funnel. And a bridge funnel is, basically, when you're trying to bridge the gap between what somebody wants and what somebody needs. Right? For example, everybody in my world needs click funnels. Right? Sometimes it's hard to sell click funnels because it's like, "Well, why do I need software? What's a funnel? I don't even know." Right? So I had to find what's something they want that I can give them right away? And then, by doing that, I can then bridge them over to what they actually need. Whoa. Some guy just drove by in an original Hummer. Sorry. That was really cool. All right. So that's what a bridge is. Right? I'm trying to draw a bridge between these two different things. And I used to share the example to explain this back in the day, back when we were doing more business opportunities stuff. I talked about if you would go to ... let's say you went to the food court at the mall. Right? And at the food court, there's all these people are eating. This is pre-COVID, so there's tons of people eating and tons of noise. And if I sit up on a chair in the food court and I yelled and said, "Hey, everybody! Look over here." And they look at me and I'm like, "Hey, who here wants a funnel to grow your business?" Of everybody in the food court, what percentage of people would raise their hand? And the reality is probably very, very few. Right? Probably nobody. But if I was to stand up on the thing and say, "Hey, who here wants to learn how to make money on the internet." Right? Like two-thirds of the room would raise their hand. And then I can say, "Okay, cool. Come over here." And then I could pull people aside and say, "Okay, the way that we make money on the internet is through this thing called a funnel." And I'm like, "Who here wants a funnel?" And now I can obviously sell them the thing that they actually need. And so that's the concept of a bridge, is you're taking this thing that they need that they may not understand yet, and you're bridging them through something that they do understand. Right? And so, for a long time, we used to do bridge funnels a lot. But over the last few years, as we've grown click funnels, we've done a good job of building a brand and making the popular rising ... I hate to say that word ... making popular the concept of funnels. And so it's not like I have to go and convince people to funnel because most people in my retargeting circles that we target on the internet, at this point, know what it is. And there's a million other people, all teaching talking about funnels. And so it's been really good for us. Right? The more noise, the more people talking about funnels, the better we do. But we're always trying to go beyond the boundaries and try to figure out the next step and the next level. Right? How do we acquire it? How do we get more people? And so recently, we started combing back through all of our data and click funnels. We've got like 100 different front-end offers. And so we've got a lot of data, and it's hard to go through it all. But we now have a business intelligent team who literally go through and just looks at all our data and finds numbers and patterns and things of that forest. And one of the interesting things that we found recently that was fascinating is that of all the front end offers we have, and this is like book funnels, opt-in funnels, webinar funnels, all the things, the funnels where the person is most likely to join click funnels and become a click funnels customer in the first 30 days is actually through one of our ebook funnels, which is crazy, so like the marketing secrets black book and the funnel cookbook. If they opt into those things, download the PDF that we give them, they're most likely to become a click funnels member in the next 30 days, which is crazy, especially since those are two funnels I built four or five years ago. And we haven't touched them or looked at them or done anything with him since. They're literally just like ... I forgot about them. I didn't realize we were driving any traffic to them. And so I was like, "Well, crap. We should look at these again." So we looked at them again, and how do we optimize these now? How do we make something truly amazing? And so I started looking at ... it was interesting because people would opt in for the black box, and we never talked about click funnels. So on the thank-you page, we don't talk about click funnels. It's like ... sorry, more cars coming. Maybe I shouldn't do marketing in the Onewheel. Anyway, so the more I started looking at these funnels, I'm like, "It's insane that they somehow bridge that gap, and they find the people." Because I'm not bridging that gap for them. Right? They're these random funnels we built years ago and forgot about, and they're out there. And so I said, "Okay, we should bring these things back, but let's strategically figure out how do we get somebody now who's going to go through this funnel?" And then, if they download the book, how do we bridge them now over into click funnels? Right? And so that was the next thing we started looking at. So we're going back through all of our webinar funnels, especially since the last couple of months when you've had all the issues with Apple and Facebook fighting, and cookies, and just all the things. Right? All right. Cost has gone up. So we're looking, and right now, it's costing us anywhere from 20 to 25 bucks for a webinar register, which is crazy. But our opt-ins are still lower, like three to five bucks to register. And so anyway, yesterday, I built about for these yesterday with Nick on my team. I had so much fun doing it. But the funnels, these bridge funnels, are very, very simple. Basically, come to the page, and it's like, "Hey, get this free book. Opt-in right here. It's the opt-in for the free book." And then the thank-you page is sweet. There's a video of me saying, "Sweet." I just emailed you the first gift. It's coming to you. I promise you guys the value of this episode is going to be worth all the noise. Anyway, so I said, "The first gift is coming to you. It's in your inbox. Go check it out there." So notice, I didn't give them the downlink on the thank-you page because on the thank-you page, I needed them to do something more important, which was register for the webinar. And the thank-you page is like, "The first gift is in your inbox. The second gift is actually more important. It's a web class I'm putting on called Funnel Hacking Secrets, where we're going to show you guys how to actually use the stuff we're talking about in the book, the ebook that you're getting. And it's going to be awesome." Right? "So go register down below." And the whole page is structured in a way to get them to register for the web class that's coming up. By the way, we tested web class, webinar, masterclass, and like a dozen different variations, and web class crushed all other versions of that phrase. So start calling webinars web classes, and it will help conversion. So there's another little marketing secret for you. So anyway, that's what we've been building, these little bridge funnels. And again, they have not gone live yet, so I don't know the exact stats. But if they stay true and we average five bucks a lead to give away an ebook, right, which, it is what it is. But if we get one out of five people hit the thank-you page and 20% conversion and the thank-you page to register for the webinar, we're actually getting the webinar leads for the same cost as we were paying before. Right? Because 20%, five people, that's 20 bucks. I'm probably doing the math wrong, but $20.00, $25 per webinar registrant. But the thing that's different is that when we pay 25 bucks a webinar registrant, we're getting one lead. Right? Here we're getting five leads. We're giving them value upfront. They're getting an ebook. They're getting a gift. They're opening their email. They're downloading the thing, so It's increasing our open rates, our click-through rates, which will get more email delivered for all of our lists across the board. Right? They're getting value in advance. They get this really cool ebook. They're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing. Look at this cool thing that Russell just gave me." Then they register for the webinar. My thought, I'm not sure yet, but positioning the webinar also as a bonus gift as opposed to like, "Hey, register for a webinar." I think we'll get more people to show up and actually consume it. We'll find out. And now it's bridging them over into the funnel world. So anyway, we built four of these yesterday. The ads will be starting the next day or so. I'll return the report back and let you guys know how they're doing. I have two more that I came up with last night, and I'm like, literally, if this works, any piece of content ever created from the beginning of time until now, I could use, and I could put into these little bridge model things. Right? Like, "Opt-in to get my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live." They opt-in. Cool. I just emailed it to you. That's gift number one. Gift number two, though, gift number two is this web class you need to go register for right now. And then they register down below, and boom, now they're in the webinar funnel. Right? And so anyway, I'm just freaking out excited. And it was so simple, but it's something I've forgotten about. And it's coming back to these ebook bridge funnels, or these content bridge funnels, or these one-pager bridge funnels. Let me do a test today. We're going to build one out for a one-pager. We'll say, "Hey, opt-in here to get the one-pager on my top webinar hacks. They opt-in, boom, "Hey, the one-pagers in your email. Go check it out." And then the second gift is the web class. Right? And just keep this process happening over and over and over and over and over again. So anyway, I'm hoping that it does as good as I think it will. I think it will. I'm going to have six of these rolling out in the next seven days, so if you follow my ads and hopefully you do, you'll start seeing them. And I recommend going through the process, funnel hacking, and watching slowly. They're simple two-page funnels that lead to our webinar. And then, the email sequence pushes people to click funnels as well as the webinar. So anyway, highly recommend watching it. I'll report back on how it does, but I think it's going to open up a whole new world of customers and buyers and just exciting things for us. So I'm excited for it. I appreciate you guys listening. Hope you all are doing amazing, and we'll talk to you soon. All right. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What to know why I’m freaking out? 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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I'm on my Onewheel, driving to the office. Hopefully, the wind's not too loud. I'll try to talk loud, but forgive me if there's any sound noise. But it takes longer to drive on the Onewheel, so maybe we'll get a longer episode today. I got some cool things I'm excited by, things I want to share with you guys. Yep, there's a car driving by.

If you have been long-time listeners, you know that when I first launched this podcast, it was called The Marketing in Your Car podcast. We call today The Marketing on Your Onewheel. With that says, let's keep things going. We'll be right back.

All right, everybody. Well, hopefully, you can hear me. The wind hits every once in a while. I'm doing my best. Anyway, so today's episode, what I want to talk about is something fun that I'm geeking out on right now. There's a principle. There's a concept that we've taught over the last, man, 10 ... longer than that, long, long time called the bridge funnel.

And a bridge funnel is, basically, when you're trying to bridge the gap between what somebody wants and what somebody needs. Right? For example, everybody in my world needs click funnels. Right? Sometimes it's hard to sell click funnels because it's like, "Well, why do I need software? What's a funnel? I don't even know." Right? So I had to find what's something they want that I can give them right away? And then, by doing that, I can then bridge them over to what they actually need.

Whoa. Some guy just drove by in an original Hummer. Sorry. That was really cool. All right. So that's what a bridge is. Right? I'm trying to draw a bridge between these two different things. And I used to share the example to explain this back in the day, back when we were doing more business opportunities stuff. I talked about if you would go to ... let's say you went to the food court at the mall. Right? And at the food court, there's all these people are eating. This is pre-COVID, so there's tons of people eating and tons of noise.

And if I sit up on a chair in the food court and I yelled and said, "Hey, everybody! Look over here." And they look at me and I'm like, "Hey, who here wants a funnel to grow your business?" Of everybody in the food court, what percentage of people would raise their hand? And the reality is probably very, very few. Right? Probably nobody.

But if I was to stand up on the thing and say, "Hey, who here wants to learn how to make money on the internet." Right? Like two-thirds of the room would raise their hand. And then I can say, "Okay, cool. Come over here." And then I could pull people aside and say, "Okay, the way that we make money on the internet is through this thing called a funnel." And I'm like, "Who here wants a funnel?" And now I can obviously sell them the thing that they actually need.

And so that's the concept of a bridge, is you're taking this thing that they need that they may not understand yet, and you're bridging them through something that they do understand. Right? And so, for a long time, we used to do bridge funnels a lot. But over the last few years, as we've grown click funnels, we've done a good job of building a brand and making the popular rising ... I hate to say that word ... making popular the concept of funnels. And so it's not like I have to go and convince people to funnel because most people in my retargeting circles that we target on the internet, at this point, know what it is. And there's a million other people, all teaching talking about funnels.

And so it's been really good for us. Right? The more noise, the more people talking about funnels, the better we do. But we're always trying to go beyond the boundaries and try to figure out the next step and the next level. Right? How do we acquire it? How do we get more people?

And so recently, we started combing back through all of our data and click funnels. We've got like 100 different front-end offers. And so we've got a lot of data, and it's hard to go through it all. But we now have a business intelligent team who literally go through and just looks at all our data and finds numbers and patterns and things of that forest. And one of the interesting things that we found recently that was fascinating is that of all the front end offers we have, and this is like book funnels, opt-in funnels, webinar funnels, all the things, the funnels where the person is most likely to join click funnels and become a click funnels customer in the first 30 days is actually through one of our ebook funnels, which is crazy, so like the marketing secrets black book and the funnel cookbook.

If they opt into those things, download the PDF that we give them, they're most likely to become a click funnels member in the next 30 days, which is crazy, especially since those are two funnels I built four or five years ago. And we haven't touched them or looked at them or done anything with him since. They're literally just like ... I forgot about them. I didn't realize we were driving any traffic to them. And so I was like, "Well, crap. We should look at these again."

So we looked at them again, and how do we optimize these now? How do we make something truly amazing? And so I started looking at ... it was interesting because people would opt in for the black box, and we never talked about click funnels. So on the thank-you page, we don't talk about click funnels. It's like ... sorry, more cars coming. Maybe I shouldn't do marketing in the Onewheel.

Anyway, so the more I started looking at these funnels, I'm like, "It's insane that they somehow bridge that gap, and they find the people." Because I'm not bridging that gap for them. Right? They're these random funnels we built years ago and forgot about, and they're out there. And so I said, "Okay, we should bring these things back, but let's strategically figure out how do we get somebody now who's going to go through this funnel?" And then, if they download the book, how do we bridge them now over into click funnels? Right? And so that was the next thing we started looking at.

So we're going back through all of our webinar funnels, especially since the last couple of months when you've had all the issues with Apple and Facebook fighting, and cookies, and just all the things. Right? All right. Cost has gone up. So we're looking, and right now, it's costing us anywhere from 20 to 25 bucks for a webinar register, which is crazy. But our opt-ins are still lower, like three to five bucks to register. And so anyway, yesterday, I built about for these yesterday with Nick on my team. I had so much fun doing it. But the funnels, these bridge funnels, are very, very simple.

Basically, come to the page, and it's like, "Hey, get this free book. Opt-in right here. It's the opt-in for the free book." And then the thank-you page is sweet. There's a video of me saying, "Sweet." I just emailed you the first gift. It's coming to you. I promise you guys the value of this episode is going to be worth all the noise. Anyway, so I said, "The first gift is coming to you. It's in your inbox. Go check it out there."

So notice, I didn't give them the downlink on the thank-you page because on the thank-you page, I needed them to do something more important, which was register for the webinar. And the thank-you page is like, "The first gift is in your inbox. The second gift is actually more important. It's a web class I'm putting on called Funnel Hacking Secrets, where we're going to show you guys how to actually use the stuff we're talking about in the book, the ebook that you're getting. And it's going to be awesome." Right?

"So go register down below." And the whole page is structured in a way to get them to register for the web class that's coming up. By the way, we tested web class, webinar, masterclass, and like a dozen different variations, and web class crushed all other versions of that phrase. So start calling webinars web classes, and it will help conversion. So there's another little marketing secret for you. So anyway, that's what we've been building, these little bridge funnels.

And again, they have not gone live yet, so I don't know the exact stats. But if they stay true and we average five bucks a lead to give away an ebook, right, which, it is what it is. But if we get one out of five people hit the thank-you page and 20% conversion and the thank-you page to register for the webinar, we're actually getting the webinar leads for the same cost as we were paying before. Right? Because 20%, five people, that's 20 bucks. I'm probably doing the math wrong, but $20.00, $25 per webinar registrant.

But the thing that's different is that when we pay 25 bucks a webinar registrant, we're getting one lead. Right? Here we're getting five leads. We're giving them value upfront. They're getting an ebook. They're getting a gift. They're opening their email. They're downloading the thing, so It's increasing our open rates, our click-through rates, which will get more email delivered for all of our lists across the board. Right?

They're getting value in advance. They get this really cool ebook. They're like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing. Look at this cool thing that Russell just gave me." Then they register for the webinar. My thought, I'm not sure yet, but positioning the webinar also as a bonus gift as opposed to like, "Hey, register for a webinar." I think we'll get more people to show up and actually consume it. We'll find out. And now it's bridging them over into the funnel world.

So anyway, we built four of these yesterday. The ads will be starting the next day or so. I'll return the report back and let you guys know how they're doing. I have two more that I came up with last night, and I'm like, literally, if this works, any piece of content ever created from the beginning of time until now, I could use, and I could put into these little bridge model things. Right? Like, "Opt-in to get my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live." They opt-in. Cool. I just emailed it to you. That's gift number one.

Gift number two, though, gift number two is this web class you need to go register for right now. And then they register down below, and boom, now they're in the webinar funnel. Right? And so anyway, I'm just freaking out excited. And it was so simple, but it's something I've forgotten about. And it's coming back to these ebook bridge funnels, or these content bridge funnels, or these one-pager bridge funnels. Let me do a test today. We're going to build one out for a one-pager. We'll say, "Hey, opt-in here to get the one-pager on my top webinar hacks. They opt-in, boom, "Hey, the one-pagers in your email. Go check it out."

And then the second gift is the web class. Right? And just keep this process happening over and over and over and over and over again. So anyway, I'm hoping that it does as good as I think it will. I think it will. I'm going to have six of these rolling out in the next seven days, so if you follow my ads and hopefully you do, you'll start seeing them. And I recommend going through the process, funnel hacking, and watching slowly. They're simple two-page funnels that lead to our webinar.

And then, the email sequence pushes people to click funnels as well as the webinar. So anyway, highly recommend watching it. I'll report back on how it does, but I think it's going to open up a whole new world of customers and buyers and just exciting things for us. So I'm excited for it. I appreciate you guys listening. Hope you all are doing amazing, and we'll talk to you soon. All right. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 697 no LIVE: Clubhouse Q&A! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/live-clubhouse-qa Listen in as Russell answers marketing questions during a recent live episode on Clubhouse. To be on the next Marketing Secrets Live episode, register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I'm going to be letting you guys listen into a live Q&A I did on a recent Marketing Secrets Live Show. If you're not yet part of the Marketing Secrets Live Show, it's a live version of this podcast where I hang out and answer questions live, and it's so much fun. We usually do them about once a week. And if you want to be a part of the next one, go to clubhousewithrussell.com, go and register, and that way you'll be notified the next time I go live. With that said, I'm going to jump into Q&A and hopefully one of your questions is answered. If not, make sure you come on the next live show. So what we're going to do now, we're going to spend 15 minutes or so opening up for Q&As for any of you guys, have any questions. So Yhennifer, do you want to walk people and me through the process of how we're going to be doing the next step of the podcast? Yhennifer: Yes, awesome. All right, guys, I'm going to bring up five people. So just make sure that if you want to speak, if you have a question, just hit the little raising the hand button in the bottom and we'll bring you guys up. As you come on here, make sure that you mute your microphone. So that way there's no background noise in the back. And let's see, we're going to bring some people on here. All right, we've got a few people here that want to join. There we go. All right, make sure you guys mute yourselves. First, we're going to have Carolina. Carolina, welcome to the club, to the room today. We're so excited to have you here. I know you are a mentor in the Spanish world and also a 2 Comma Club award winner. So what questions do you have for Russell? How do you want to contribute to this conversation? Carolina: Hey Russell and Yhennifer, thank you so much for this room. It's been amazing. I was taking notes from everything everyone said, so thank you so much. Russell: So good to hear from you. Carolina: Yeah, it's always good to hear from you Russell. I hope I can make it to FunnelHacking in September. I hope they let me travel. Russell: You just got to sneak out. There's always a way. Carolina: I know. Our country is still not allowing us to travel for leisure, just emergencies, but I will say it's an emergency. Russell: This is an emergency. FunnelHacking Live is a huge emergency. Carolina: I agree. I wanted to ask you just about, maybe not related necessarily to the marketing secrets mentioned today, but just there's a huge community in Latin America, Spain who love ClickFunnels, who love you. And they keep asking me when is ClickFunnels going to be available in Spanish, but also your books. I guess that's my biggest question. Do you guys have any plans for expansion to the Spanish speaking markets? I'd love to hear that from you Russell. Thank you so much. Russell: Yeah, that's a great question. The answer is yes, emphatically yes. Next year will be our year of internationalization. That's how you say that, right? We had to do a lot of coding on the ClickFunnels platform to make it so that we can start translating quickly into languages. And that part of the process is actually finished. So we do have translators. In fact, Spanish is the first language that's been translated. The way it works, this is actually kind of cool for the non-techie guys like me when I learned how it works, is they had to go through the whole software and basically any place that there's a sentence or a phrase or something, they had to go and write code around it and say like, this is the phrase, and this is the thing, right? And so obviously there's a lot of places that happens. And then what happens now, it makes this database where it shows all the sentences, the phrases, the words, the paragraphs, all the stuff. And the translators go in and just retranslate every single thing. And then now we can click a button and it just changes the language across the whole platform and makes sure that the translations are correct. So we do have a team right now doing the Spanish one and making sure that, obviously, not just a direct translation, but one that makes sense. So that's kind of been happening. My guess is shortly after FunnelHacking Live is when we'll be rolling out that inside the ClickFunnels platform, which is exciting. And then we're trying to plug in other languages as well. So that's that. On the books. Yes, I'm learning about publishers and contracts and things like that because one of my friends, Sharon Lechter, if you guys know her. She was one of the co-authors of Rich Dad, Poor Dad. She also wrote, or did the first version of Outwitting The Devil, which is one of my favorite books of all time. And it was interesting because Outwitting The Devil's already in 40 languages. I'm like, how did you do that? And she's like, when I signed the contract, I kept the international rights and I was able to go and quickly do it across the board. Unfortunately I didn't do that with mine because I didn't know that was a thing. So I've been working with our publishers to see how we can speed up the timeline. I know there's translations happening in four or five languages right now, but the process is slower than I thought or imagined. As you know, you messaged me the day, the original version of Dotcom Secrets and Expert Secrets are in four or five languages, but it's the older version. And so we're doing all the new updated ones right now. In fact, I got one the other day. I can't remember if it was Vietnamese or something. It was really cool. So yes, they're in process. I wish it was going faster. I'm trying to work with the publishers to figure out a way to move faster on all of it because I agree that's our next big thing for next year is to be able to rebuild all of our funnels in Spanish with the Spanish versions and different languages. And then also have the platform being able to handle that from the languaging inside, but also local merchant accounts that work in different countries because they don't all work in every single country, and then having support teams in each country as well. So we're working on it. It's a bigger process than we had planned initially. But next year is the year that we're trying to get as much of that done as possible. There's the goal. Carolina: Awesome. Thank you Russell. And hopefully, maybe even some of your courses like adding subtitles and stuff like that, that would be really neat as well. Maybe 2023, I don't know. Russell: Let's do it. There was actually, it's funny, there was a company that came out that was doing that, where they would take a YouTube channel or a video contract courses and you give it to them and they'd retranslate the whole thing. And we were about to hire them and they went out of business right when we were about to hire him. So if you want to start that company, let me know and we can start dropping everything. Literally it was really cool, you give me your YouTube channel. They go through scrape it all, rewrite it all, and launch the Spanish version or the French version or the German version. Anyway, yeah, if someone wants to start that company, I will give you money to do that for me. Yhennifer: You heard it first here. Carolina, such a great idea. Spanish market, here we come. Our Spanish people need some of ClickFunnels Russell. Carolina: I'll talk to some people. I'll talk to some people and reach out to you. Russell: All right, awesome. Yhennifer: Awesome. Thank you, Carolina for being here. Next up is Christine. She's a social media specialist, content creator. She manages social media platforms. Christine, the mic is all yours. Christine: Hi, I'm Christine and I'm in Dallas, Texas. And unfortunately Russell, I had never heard of you until I met Nikki Nicole. And she is teaching in a room here, excuse me, on a book that you have, Dotcom Secrets. Russell: Okay, very cool. Christine: Yes, exactly. So now I'm in a room with you. Russell: Welcome to the room. Glad to be hanging out. Christine: Thank you. And so I have ordered the book. Russell: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Christine: All right. That she's training out of, and I'm waiting for the forms and everything to come. What would you say to me is one of the most important item in the book that you would like to make sure that she lets us know in training from your book? Russell: As she's training? Oh man. Well, the Dotcom Secrets book. That's the first book I ever wrote. It's by far the one that's my favorite. Everyone's got their favorite one, but that's my favorite one. I think the biggest thing is really understanding the customer journey. That's where I think funnels and all the things we do today are based on that. Most businesses I go into, they're very much like they have a product, they sell the customer the product, and that's the business. I would say the majority of business, that's the way they look at things. Whereas the thing that I've geeked out on for the last two decades of my life is the customer journey. Someone comes in, what's the first thing, and what's the second thing, where do we take them? And how do we move them? And where do we send them to? And how do we serve them at the highest level? And I think a lot of times business owners are scared. Like, well, if I, if I give them an upsell, if I sell them something else, or if I move them from step one to step two they're going to be offended or whatever. It's like, if you realize that the products and services and things you're creating, that's how you serve your audience, right? When you really believe that, then it's like, okay, how can I serve this person? They come into my world the very first time, right? Right now you've bought the book. You're going to get the book in the mail and now you're going to be into my funnel. And so you'll hear me talk about different things. I'm probably going to invite you to our 2 Comma Club live event that's happening next week right, because that'd be the next thing. And then after you experience that, then I'll invite you to come to FunnelHacking Live, our big event. Then from there we'll invite you to join our coaching program. Not because I'm a salesman trying to sell a bunch of stuff, but because I honestly believe, and I've seen as we've taken people on this journey, this is the process and the path that gets people success the fastest. And so I think as you're going through the book, realizing that this is about serving at a higher level. That's the whole key. That's what funnels are about. That's what ascension, that's what value ladders, that's what all these things are about is figuring out how to serve your people at the highest level. And I always tell entrepreneurs, I believe that if you felt that entrepreneurial call and you're starting a business or you're trying to, or whatever, wherever you are in the process, that call is literally a calling from God. Where he's saying, look, there's a group of people you've been called to serve. I've given you unique talents and abilities and things that you can do. And your job is to go figure out how can I take these talents and I can serve these people. And so the Dotcom Secrets book is going to help you with, okay, now that I've found these people, how do I find them? How do I move them? How do I actually serve them at the highest level possible? So that's what I would say is looking through business with that lens, as opposed to, what most businesses are, which is write out your business plan and things like that. It's like, no, how do I serve my customers at a level that nobody else has done yet? And then I can change their lives. And that's how you actually grow a business. So I hope that helps. Christine: Thank you so much. And so what I got from it to just make sure that you stick with the process to ensure that you're going to make it to the end, is what I'm hearing. Russell: Definitely. Christine: Well, you can thank Nikki Nicole for bringing your book to her room. And just know that I appreciate you both because I'm hanging in there. Thank you. Russell: That's awesome. Thanks so much. Yhennifer: Thank you Christine for being here. Russell, you got people reading your books in other rooms here in Clubhouse. Russell: I love it. Yhennifer: That is amazing. Russell: Tell Nikki thank you. That's amazing. Yhennifer: Yes, awesome. Stephanie, you're up. She's a homeschool mama turned seven figure digital marketing agency owner. Also a coach. Welcome, Stephanie. What is your question for Russell or contribution to the conversation? Stephanie: What's up guys? Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to be here. Dude, okay, so I've been in the ClickFunnels world and the Russell Brunson world for a long time now. And I have watched you journey through your entrepreneurial journey, and it's just been absolutely incredible. And so, as you were just talking about serving your people at the highest level possible and recognizing the calling from God in your life to reach a certain people group, I've seen in your journey that as you do that and you take hold of that more and more that you have also too worked really hard in your family in order to serve in your family at the highest level possible as well. And I've seen, as you're very transparent and you're vulnerable about it's a struggle as a parent who wants to be intentional with running a business where you want to kill it, you want to serve well, but you also too, don't want to leave your kids behind in the dust, right? And so why would we build a business to lose, I don't know, for me personally, they're the reason I started the business. And so I guess my question for you is, do you have any, you've got marketing secrets, but as you've built this business, oh, by the way, just plug for Russell's podcast. If you have not listened to the most recent uploads of the Roundtable of World Changers. Oh my gosh, that was so incredible. Russell: That was a fun one. Stephanie: Oh, it so incredible. And I keep going back and kind of relistening because the adventure that you took with your kids to go with Matt Maddix, and just kind of go out and just hear from kids that are younger and aspiring to these big dreams and everything, it was just incredible. So you guys go listen to those. But Russell, do you have anything, it doesn't have to be like super anything totally profound, but just for you, what are some of the secrets you've found between managing serving well in your business and serving your family well and loving them well? Russell: Oh, such a good question. And it's interesting. It's probably not for everybody, but for me business is way easier for me than being a dad. Being a dad is hard and it's emotional. And so it's tough because by default I'm like, I could deal with these things where I can like, oh, business leads, I'll slide over here and do business. And I think that a lot of us have those problems. We have our things that we're really, really good at and then we have things we struggle with, and we always slip to the thing that's going to be the easiest. But man, like every morning I wake up and I love driving my kids to school. I love being there in the morning when they're getting breakfast, and helping them, and just being around them. And try to pay attention to them. And then I go to work. And at the end of the day, I got to come back because I know they're going to be there. And so I try when my kids are at home, I want to be home as much as possible too. But it's definitely, it's this mental war that all of us have. In fact, I think you know this, I'm in the middle of writing my fourth book right now. And one of the fascinating things, and I found this stat somewhere, and when I found it I was like, oh my gosh, I realized so many reasons why I struggle with things now. But basically the stat was like, the human brain, I think, weighs three pounds. But 25% of our calories are burned by our brain. In fact, Joe McCall, I think he's down in the group down below, he sent me an article after I mentioned that at the FHAT event. He said that it was an article, I'll mess with the stats, but it showed like chess players who play these chess tournaments, when they're sitting there just moving pieces around, but their brain's working so hard. They'll lose like 20 pounds in a week playing chess at a, at a chess tournament. That's how much our brain is doing. So our brain is burning all these calories and it's tired. So our brain's like I've got two options, I can go work really hard and do this thing or I can find the easiest path. So our brain's always looking for the easiest path. So for me, it's like, okay, my teenage son is driving me nuts. He's insane. And it's like, I got to go deal with this or I can just go in the office and write a webinar, right? And so for me my brain's like, oh, webinars are way easier. You've done it a million times. It's easier for it to slack off and go there as opposed to confront the situation. Now, as I'm more and more aware of this, I'm looking at this debate with my brain and it's like, no, this is more important because my son, even though he's driving me insane, there's a window where I can like do something here. And if I slip back and go to the easier route, I'm going to miss that window and it's going to be gone. And so just being more aware of that, I think where we realize that our brain wants to do whatever's easiest. And for me, as much as I love my wife and five kids, it's not the easiest path for me. The easiest path is by far business. For whatever reason, I got good at it. So it's the easiest path. And so it's looking at that and saying, don't always default to the easiest thing, default to the most important thing. And I have a quote that I share all the time is from David O. McKay, says, "That no success can compensate for failure in the home." And I think about that a lot where it's just like, oh, I can go and do this thing that will be so easy. And I'll make more success and all my fans and followers will think I'm awesome. Or it's like, I can have this hard conversation with my kids and I can help them. Or I can go take them to the homeless shelter. Or I can leave everyday at three o'clock and go to wrestling practice with them because I need to be there for them. And that's more important than me stroking my own ego, right, and getting the, you know. I don't know, it's not a perfect science and I mess up a lot. I'm sure my kids will tell you stories someday about how, as parents are, but I try the best I can. I think the big things is just understanding that the easiest thing's not always the best thing, and understanding that again, no success can compensate for failure in the home. So don't forget the family. Especially for, like Stephanie you mentioned, most of us got in this business because it's like, I want to spend more time with my kids. I want to help. And that's how we got started. And then we got the adrenaline rush and the high from success. And you want to keep defaulting to that because it feels good. And I've seen so many families and marriages destroyed in the wake of success, which is like the worst thing, right? What's the point of it at all at that point> so it's remembering those things so that you don't, in fact, what's the quote? There's some quote that's like, what profit the man if he gains the whole world, if he loses his own soul? I hear that. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't want to lose that. Stephanie: Ah, that's so powerful. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. And thank you for just journeying out loud Russell. Just from all of us to you, thank you. Russell: No worries. Thank you. And for anyone who's got kids, it is hard. So don't think, someone the other day told me, it's got to be so nice to have the perfect family and perfect life. I started laughing. Like, are you kidding me? I was telling him, like two months ago I was about to, I didn't tell him, I won't repeat the details on recording, but it's tough, but it's amazing. Yhennifer: That was so good. So Russell, you see everybody like flashing their mics. That's equivalent to like clapping. So everybody's like clapping. Russell: Thanks for clapping guys, that's exciting. Yhennifer: Yeah, that's a Clubhouse thing. Russell: I'm learning the ways. Yhennifer: If you see me and Stephanie, were like clapping away and kind of cheering you on on the things that you're saying here. Family is so important and that was so good. And we do appreciate you sharing your journey, like Stephanie mentioned. Awesome. Thank you Stephanie for being here. Up next, Yasim. She's an Instagram expert. What question do you have for Russell? Take it away. Yasim: Thank you, Yhennifer and Russell. What an honor to be speaking to you. I am a huge, huge fan. And just actually before I ask you the question, how you mentioned about family, to me, you are not just a marketing expert, but for me you are one of the biggest ambassadors of women because I have never heard you speak about marketing before you start your sentence with this happened thanks to my beautiful wife. Every single time, you always honor Colette. Every single time, whether I listen to you at that ClickFunnels Live, or it's a podcast or a blog post. And I hit the fortune to meet Colette because I was so curious after hearing about her, and she's a beautiful being. And we know that you mean it with all of your heart. I am single, and I can tell you, I think for all of us single women in the world, you are giving us so much hope and you are modeling such a beautiful way of behavior. So wanted to thank you for that, first of all. Russell: Thank you, I appreciate that. Yasim: That comes from all of my heart. Russell, did you think of actually crowdsourcing this international thing? Because I'm one of your fans, and I know you have fans all over the world. I speak five languages. I would be very happy to help you just to help you. Russell: Oh, very cool. I hadn't thought through that, but maybe as we get closer. We're still trying to figure out all the details of it. So that's great to know. And maybe you can do all the work for all the languages if you've got five. I barely speak English right. Yasim: Thank you. Yeah. I've been in touch with John Parker because I had met him also in ClickFunnels Live. So I can just mention it to him. But yeah, just I thought in your community I'm sure you have people from all the languages. So now my question is, and I'm embarrassed to ask this question because I have been in your world and doing your trainings for a while, but I am only now since few weeks starting the webinar journey myself. And I know you were telling us to start it a lot earlier and I'm embarrassed. I did not. But anyway, I'm watching the trainings and reading the book again. And the one part I'm really unclear about is how do you make the distinction between your origin story and the vehicle? In case it's more clear, I teach about Instagram. So I tell in my origin story that I tried to learn it from the free videos and then I watched online recordings. But social media algorithms change so quickly that you cannot learn this by watching a prerecorded video. You literally need to have live coaching, and that's what I do. But for me, that's the origin story and the vehicle. If you can please help me make the distinction, I would very much appreciate it, thank you. Russell: Yeah, definitely. In fact, at the FHAT event we did this week, I spent probably 15 minutes on a slide trying to explain that because I've had that question a lot. And I explained it and people were like, I finally understand after all these years. So that was cool. So I wish I had the slide in front of me so I can remember exactly how I said it. The answer is you do the webinar and the first part is the origin story about how you discovered the framework, right? I went through this process, I discovered the framework, and this is the framework, right? So for me, it's called FunnelHacking. And then secret number one is now I'm going to show you guys how I developed it. So the origin story is the discovery of the framework. And secret number one is the story about how you developed it, right? So if you look at mine, it's like, a discovery of the framework was me funnel hacking, right? So I went and I bought… it’s me showing the Neuracel funnel, right, so I bought this, and I funnel hacked, and I saw the thing, and I launched my own funnel, and oh my gosh, it made a bunch of money. So that's showing this is how I discovered the framework of funnel hacking. Now here's me how, oh, what's the word again? Discovery of the framework's the first one, and then the development of it, right? So then I come back. Here's how I develop it. The first thing, Tony Robbins told me this. And then I had this over here, and I had this over here, and then I actually teach the strategies. So then step one, this is step two, step three, step four, and you teach the actual strategy. So that's the big differences. It's a little nuanced, but it's origin story's here. Here's the origin story of the framework and how I discovered it. And then this is the origin story of how I developed it. And then you actually teach the strategy in that secret number one. Does that make sense? Yasim: So are you telling a different story for both of those? Because I understand the distinction between the strategies, but I have difficulties creating a different story for the two of them. Russell: Yeah. They are different stories for me. So again, the one is how you discovered it. How I bumped in like, oh, I had the epiphany of, oh, this is the framework and this is kind of the result of it. So I don't go deep into it there. And the second one's now like, okay, now as I was discovering it, let me walk you through how I actually developed this. The first thing I do when I'm developing is I did this, I studied this. It's like the second tier. It's like going deeper in on the story, right? The first one's I discovered, and then here's how I actually developed it. Yasim: Oh, got it. So like you say, this is how I discovered it, and now we are moving on to the secret, secret number one. And that's how you make the liaison, so to speak. Is that correct? Russell: Yep. Because they're tied together. So the first thing, you show your story, how you discovered it. And then like, oh cool, this is awesome. And I was like, okay, now we're going to get to teaching. Step number one, secret number one. And then now I'm going to show you, tell the story of how I developed it. Yep. Yasim: Thank you so much, Russell. This is Yasim, the lady in orange, red. I'm definitely reaching out to you to offer my help with everything because you are awesome. Your teachings are awesome. And the love you always show to your wife and your kids, you are not only a leader in marketing, but you are literally a leader for love, women. I love you with all of my heart, Russell. Russell: Thank you so much, I appreciate that. Yhennifer: Awesome. A shout out to Colette, right? Shout out to Colette. Thank you so much, Yasim. And our last guest here, Ariel. Ariel is a marketing expert in the Spanish speaking world as well. Also an award winner here in the ClickFunnels community. So Ariel, what is your question or what do you want to share here with Russell? Ariel: I do have a question for Russell. Hey Russell, how you doing? Russell: What's up man? Good to hear from you. How you been? Ariel: Good to hear, good. Very good. Very good. I listened to Carolina before, and I say to all the community in Spanish, we are working very hard to bring the first 150,000 Argentinian users to ClickFunnels this year. Really, really, really good to see you here in Clubhouse and hear you, and I'll see you soon. Russell: Yeah. Ariel's been a huge help on our side getting the international stuff. Will you do me a favor? Ariel: Of course. Russell: Will you tell people the story about how you found out about our community? Because I think it's really interesting. Ariel: In Spanish. Russell: The Dotcom Secrets book, how you found that. Ariel: I meet Russell in a plane. A customer called me from United States, and I need to take a plane to Miami. And they found the book. I lose my ticket and I can't fly on business like almost every flight. And I was a tourist. And I found Dotcom Secrets in the pocket of my front seat. Russell: Somebody left the book in the pocket and he found it in the pocket of the seat as he was flying. Ariel: Yeah. That means two things. The planes never are very clean. No, was a great discovery. And I fall in love with you, ClickFunnels, the community, the books, and start that relationship with you and all the ClickFunnels team til now. So was great. Was great discovered the book in 2000, what, 17? Russell: Yeah, probably about then. Ariel: Yeah. Russell: Anyway, I hope that was a crazy story. And then since then he's won 2 Comma Club, 2 Comma Club X, 2 Comma Club C awards and about a million other things. So we are grateful for you and having you in our community, especially your help with all the internationalization stuff we're doing together. Ariel: Thank you. And we will broke again another award. So we have two, maybe 2 Comma Club X this year. And again, the 2 Comma Club C. Will be amazing to give a hug in the stage again. Russell: Excited to see you again soon. Ariel: Thank you, Russell. Yhennifer: That's awesome. Ariel: Thank you Yhennifer, thank you. Yhennifer: Yeah, you're welcome. Congratulations. And we're excited to see you at FunnelHacking Live. I want to reset the room one more time before we close out this episode. Want to remind you guys that we are recording. Also, please click the green little house at the top, the Marketing Secrets Live house so that you can get, excuse me, club so that you didn't get a notification when Russell goes live again. If you loved this information, go onto your social channels and let us know how much fun you had here as well in this live. And Russell back to you. Russell: Awesome. Well thank you Yhennifer for helping. Thank you everyone for hanging out today. That was fun. As long as you keeps showing up and keep having a good time, we'll keep doing these. If you want to hear the recording, this stuff later, it will be on the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Just make sure you go to iTunes or Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts and subscribe. And other than that, thanks you guys for hanging out. I had a good time. Thank you Yhennifer. Thank you for everyone on our team who helped put this together today. And with that said, we'll see you guys, hopefully all at FunnelHacking live. We're 105 days away from it starting. If you don't have your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. The party is happening. We're going to be in person, we're having a good time, and we want to make sure you guys are all there if you're able to be there. And other than that, thanks everybody. And we'll see you guys on the next Marketing Secrets Live Show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0000 LIVE: Clubhouse Q&A! full 426 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen in as Russell answers marketing questions during a recent live episode on Clubhouse. To be on the next Marketing Secrets Live episode, register at  Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ... Listen in as Russell answers marketing questions during a recent live episode on Clubhouse. To be on the next Marketing Secrets Live episode, register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I'm going to be letting you guys listen into a live Q&A I did on a recent Marketing Secrets Live Show. If you're not yet part of the Marketing Secrets Live Show, it's a live version of this podcast where I hang out and answer questions live, and it's so much fun. We usually do them about once a week. And if you want to be a part of the next one, go to clubhousewithrussell.com, go and register, and that way you'll be notified the next time I go live. With that said, I'm going to jump into Q&A and hopefully one of your questions is answered. If not, make sure you come on the next live show. So what we're going to do now, we're going to spend 15 minutes or so opening up for Q&As for any of you guys, have any questions. So Yhennifer, do you want to walk people and me through the process of how we're going to be doing the next step of the podcast? Yhennifer: Yes, awesome. All right, guys, I'm going to bring up five people. So just make sure that if you want to speak, if you have a question, just hit the little raising the hand button in the bottom and we'll bring you guys up. As you come on here, make sure that you mute your microphone. So that way there's no background noise in the back. And let's see, we're going to bring some people on here. All right, we've got a few people here that want to join. There we go. All right, make sure you guys mute yourselves. First, we're going to have Carolina. Carolina, welcome to the club, to the room today. We're so excited to have you here. I know you are a mentor in the Spanish world and also a 2 Comma Club award winner. So what questions do you have for Russell? How do you want to contribute to this conversation? Carolina: Hey Russell and Yhennifer, thank you so much for this room. It's been amazing. I was taking notes from everything everyone said, so thank you so much. Russell: So good to hear from you. Carolina: Yeah, it's always good to hear from you Russell. I hope I can make it to FunnelHacking in September. I hope they let me travel. Russell: You just got to sneak out. There's always a way. Carolina: I know. Our country is still not allowing us to travel for leisure, just emergencies, but I will say it's an emergency. Russell: This is an emergency. FunnelHacking Live is a huge emergency. Carolina: I agree. I wanted to ask you just about, maybe not related necessarily to the marketing secrets mentioned today, but just there's a huge community in Latin America, Spain who love ClickFunnels, who love you. And they keep asking me when is ClickFunnels going to be available in Spanish, but also your books. I guess that's my biggest question. Do you guys have any plans for expansion to the Spanish speaking markets? I'd love to hear that from you Russell. Thank you so much. Russell: Yeah, that's a great question. The answer is yes, emphatically yes. Next year will be our year of internationalization. That's how you say that, right? We had to do a lot of coding on the ClickFunnels platform to make it so that we can start translating quickly into languages. And that part of the process is actually finished. So we do have translators. In fact, Spanish is the first language that's been translated. The way it works, this is actually kind of cool for the non-techie guys like me when I learned how it works, is they had to go through the whole software and basically any place that there's a sentence or a phrase or something, they had to go and write code around it and say like, this is the phrase, and this is the thing, right? And so obviously there's a lot of places that happens. And then what happens now, it makes this database where it shows all the sentences, the phrases, the words, the paragraphs, all the stuff. And the translators go in and just retranslate every single thing. And then now we can click a button and it just changes the language across the whole platform and makes sure that the translations are correct. So we do have a team right now doing the Spanish one and making sure that, obviously, not just a direct translation, but one that makes sense. So that's kind of been happening. My guess is shortly after FunnelHacking Live is when we'll be rolling out that inside the ClickFunnels platform, which is exciting. And then we're trying to plug in other languages as well. So that's that. On the books. Yes, I'm learning about publishers and contracts and things like that because one of my friends, Sharon Lechter, if you guys know her. She was one of the co-authors of Rich Dad, Poor Dad. She also wrote, or did the first version of Outwitting The Devil, which is one of my favorite books of all time. And it was interesting because Outwitting The Devil's already in 40 languages. I'm like, how did you do that? And she's like, when I signed the contract, I kept the international rights and I was able to go and quickly do it across the board. Unfortunately I didn't do that with mine because I didn't know that was a thing. So I've been working with our publishers to see how we can speed up the timeline. I know there's translations happening in four or five languages right now, but the process is slower than I thought or imagined. As you know, you messaged me the day, the original version of Dotcom Secrets and Expert Secrets are in four or five languages, but it's the older version. And so we're doing all the new updated ones right now. In fact, I got one the other day. I can't remember if it was Vietnamese or something. It was really cool. So yes, they're in process. I wish it was going faster. I'm trying to work with the publishers to figure out a way to move faster on all of it because I agree that's our next big thing for next year is to be able to rebuild all of our funnels in Spanish with the Spanish versions and different languages. And then also have the platform being able to handle that from the languaging inside, but also local merchant accounts that work in different countries because they don't all work in every single country, and then having support teams in each country as well. So we're working on it. It's a bigger process than we had planned initially. But next year is the year that we're trying to get as much of that done as possible. There's the goal. Carolina: Awesome. Thank you Russell. And hopefully, maybe even some of your courses like adding subtitles and stuff like that, that would be really neat as well. Maybe 2023, I don't know. Russell: Let's do it. There was actually, it's funny, there was a company that came out that was doing that, where they would take a YouTube channel or a video contract courses and you give it to them and they'd retranslate the whole thing. And we were about to hire them and they went out of business right when we were about to hire him. So if you want to start that company, let me know and we can start dropping everything. Literally it was really cool, you give me your YouTube channel. They go through scrape it all, rewrite it all, and launch the Spanish version or the French version or the German version. Anyway, yeah, if someone wants to start that company, I will give you money to do that for me. Yhennifer: You heard it first here. Carolina, such a great idea. Spanish market, here we come. Our Spanish people need some of ClickFunnels Russell. Carolina: I'll talk to some people. I'll talk to some people and reach out to you. Russell: All right, awesome. Yhennifer: Awesome. Thank you, Carolina for being here. Next up is Christine. She's a social media specialist, content creator. She manages social media platforms. Christine, the mic is all yours. Christine: Hi, I'm Christine and I'm in Dallas, Texas. And unfortunately Russell, I had never heard of you until I met Nikki Nicole. And she is teaching in a room here, excuse me, on a book that you have, Dotcom Secrets. Russell: Okay, very cool. Christine: Yes, exactly. So now I'm in a room with you. Russell: Welcome to the room. Glad to be hanging out. Christine: Thank you. And so I have ordered the book. Russell: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Christine: All right. That she's training out of, and I'm waiting for the forms and everything to come. What would you say to me is one of the most important item in the book that you would like to make sure that she lets us know in training from your book? Russell: As she's training? Oh man. Well, the Dotcom Secrets book. That's the first book I ever wrote. It's by far the one that's my favorite. Everyone's got their favorite one, but that's my favorite one. I think the biggest thing is really understanding the customer journey. That's where I think funnels and all the things we do today are based on that. Most businesses I go into, they're very much like they have a product, they sell the customer the product, and that's the business. I would say the majority of business, that's the way they look at things. Whereas the thing that I've geeked out on for the last two decades of my life is the customer journey. Someone comes in, what's the first thing, and what's the second thing, where do we take them? And how do we move them? And where do we send them to? And how do we serve them at the highest level? And I think a lot of times business owners are scared. Like, well, if I, if I give them an upsell, if I sell them something else, or if I move them from step one to step two they're going to be offended or whatever. It's like, if you realize that the products and services and things you're creating, that's how you serve your audience, right? When you really believe that, then it's like, okay, how can I serve this person? They come into my world the very first time, right? Right now you've bought the book. You're going to get the book in the mail and now you're going to be into my funnel. And so you'll hear me talk about different things. I'm probably going to invite you to our 2 Comma Club live event that's happening next week right, because that'd be the next thing. And then after you experience that, then I'll invite you to come to FunnelHacking Live, our big event. Then from there we'll invite you to join our coaching program. Not because I'm a salesman trying to sell a bunch of stuff, but because I honestly believe, and I've seen as we've taken people on this journey, this is the process and the path that gets people success the fastest. And so I think as you're going through the book, realizing that this is about serving at a higher level. That's the whole key. That's what funnels are about. That's what ascension, that's what value ladders, that's what all these things are about is figuring out how to serve your people at the highest level. And I always tell entrepreneurs, I believe that if you felt that entrepreneurial call and you're starting a business or you're trying to, or whatever, wherever you are in the process, that call is literally a calling from God. Where he's saying, look, there's a group of people you've been called to serve. I've given you unique talents and abilities and things that you can do. And your job is to go figure out how can I take these talents and I can serve these people. And so the Dotcom Secrets book is going to help you with, okay, now that I've found these people, how do I find them? How do I move them? How do I actually serve them at the highest level possible? So that's what I would say is looking through business with that lens, as opposed to, what most businesses are, which is write out your business plan and things like that. It's like, no, how do I serve my customers at a level that nobody else has done yet? And then I can change their lives. And that's how you actually grow a business. So I hope that helps. Christine: Thank you so much. And so what I got from it to just make sure that you stick with the process to ensure that you're going to make it to the end, is what I'm hearing. Russell: Definitely. Christine: Well, you can thank Nikki Nicole for bringing your book to her room. And just know that I appreciate you both because I'm hanging in there. Thank you. Russell: That's awesome. Thanks so much. Yhennifer: Thank you Christine for being here. Russell, you got people reading your books in other rooms here in Clubhouse. Russell: I love it. Yhennifer: That is amazing. Russell: Tell Nikki thank you. That's amazing. Yhennifer: Yes, awesome. Stephanie, you're up. She's a homeschool mama turned seven figure digital marketing agency owner. Also a coach. Welcome, Stephanie. What is your question for Russell or contribution to the conversation? Stephanie: What's up guys? Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to be here. Dude, okay, so I've been in the ClickFunnels world and the Russell Brunson world for a long time now. And I have watched you journey through your entrepreneurial journey, and it's just been absolutely incredible. And so, as you were just talking about serving your people at the highest level possible and recognizing the calling from God in your life to reach a certain people group, I've seen in your journey that as you do that and you take hold of that more and more that you have also too worked really hard in your family in order to serve in your family at the highest level possible as well. And I've seen, as you're very transparent and you're vulnerable about it's a struggle as a parent who wants to be intentional with running a business where you want to kill it, you want to serve well, but you also too, don't want to leave your kids behind in the dust, right? And so why would we build a business to lose, I don't know, for me personally, they're the reason I started the business. And so I guess my question for you is, do you have any, you've got marketing secrets, but as you've built this business, oh, by the way, just plug for Russell's podcast. If you have not listened to the most recent uploads of the Roundtable of World Changers. Oh my gosh, that was so incredible. Russell: That was a fun one. Stephanie: Oh, it so incredible. And I keep going back and kind of relistening because the adventure that you took with your kids to go with Matt Maddix, and just kind of go out and just hear from kids that are younger and aspiring to these big dreams and everything, it was just incredible. So you guys go listen to those. But Russell, do you have anything, it doesn't have to be like super anything totally profound, but just for you, what are some of the secrets you've found between managing serving well in your business and serving your family well and loving them well? Russell: Oh, such a good question. And it's interesting. It's probably not for everybody, but for me business is way easier for me than being a dad. Being a dad is hard and it's emotional. And so it's tough because by default I'm like, I could deal with these things where I can like, oh, business leads, I'll slide over here and do business. And I think that a lot of us have those problems. We have our things that we're really, really good at and then we have things we struggle with, and we always slip to the thing that's going to be the easiest. But man, like every morning I wake up and I love driving my kids to school. I love being there in the morning when they're getting breakfast, and helping them, and just being around them. And try to pay attention to them. And then I go to work. And at the end of the day, I got to come back because I know they're going to be there. And so I try when my kids are at home, I want to be home as much as possible too. But it's definitely, it's this mental war that all of us have. In fact, I think you know this, I'm in the middle of writing my fourth book right now. And one of the fascinating things, and I found this stat somewhere, and when I found it I was like, oh my gosh, I realized so many reasons why I struggle with things now. But basically the stat was like, the human brain, I think, weighs three pounds. But 25% of our calories are burned by our brain. In fact, Joe McCall, I think he's down in the group down below, he sent me an article after I mentioned that at the FHAT event. He said that it was an article, I'll mess with the stats, but it showed like chess players who play these chess tournaments, when they're sitting there just moving pieces around, but their brain's working so hard. They'll lose like 20 pounds in a week playing chess at a, at a chess tournament. That's how much our brain is doing. So our brain is burning all these calories and it's tired. So our brain's like I've got two options, I can go work really hard and do this thing or I can find the easiest path. So our brain's always looking for the easiest path. So for me, it's like, okay, my teenage son is driving me nuts. He's insane. And it's like, I got to go deal with this or I can just go in the office and write a webinar, right? And so for me my brain's like, oh, webinars are way easier. You've done it a million times. It's easier for it to slack off and go there as opposed to confront the situation. Now, as I'm more and more aware of this, I'm looking at this debate with my brain and it's like, no, this is more important because my son, even though he's driving me insane, there's a window where I can like do something here. And if I slip back and go to the easier route, I'm going to miss that window and it's going to be gone. And so just being more aware of that, I think where we realize that our brain wants to do whatever's easiest. And for me, as much as I love my wife and five kids, it's not the easiest path for me. The easiest path is by far business. For whatever reason, I got good at it. So it's the easiest path. And so it's looking at that and saying, don't always default to the easiest thing, default to the most important thing. And I have a quote that I share all the time is from David O. McKay, says, "That no success can compensate for failure in the home." And I think about that a lot where it's just like, oh, I can go and do this thing that will be so easy. And I'll make more success and all my fans and followers will think I'm awesome. Or it's like, I can have this hard conversation with my kids and I can help them. Or I can go take them to the homeless shelter. Or I can leave everyday at three o'clock and go to wrestling practice with them because I need to be there for them. And that's more important than me stroking my own ego, right, and getting the, you know. I don't know, it's not a perfect science and I mess up a lot. I'm sure my kids will tell you stories someday about how, as parents are, but I try the best I can. I think the big things is just understanding that the easiest thing's not always the best thing, and understanding that again, no success can compensate for failure in the home. So don't forget the family. Especially for, like Stephanie you mentioned, most of us got in this business because it's like, I want to spend more time with my kids. I want to help. And that's how we got started. And then we got the adrenaline rush and the high from success. And you want to keep defaulting to that because it feels good. And I've seen so many families and marriages destroyed in the wake of success, which is like the worst thing, right? What's the point of it at all at that point> so it's remembering those things so that you don't, in fact, what's the quote? There's some quote that's like, what profit the man if he gains the whole world, if he loses his own soul? I hear that. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't want to lose that. Stephanie: Ah, that's so powerful. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. And thank you for just journeying out loud Russell. Just from all of us to you, thank you. Russell: No worries. Thank you. And for anyone who's got kids, it is hard. So don't think, someone the other day told me, it's got to be so nice to have the perfect family and perfect life. I started laughing. Like, are you kidding me? I was telling him, like two months ago I was about to, I didn't tell him, I won't repeat the details on recording, but it's tough, but it's amazing. Yhennifer: That was so good. So Russell, you see everybody like flashing their mics. That's equivalent to like clapping. So everybody's like clapping. Russell: Thanks for clapping guys, that's exciting. Yhennifer: Yeah, that's a Clubhouse thing. Russell: I'm learning the ways. Yhennifer: If you see me and Stephanie, were like clapping away and kind of cheering you on on the things that you're saying here. Family is so important and that was so good. And we do appreciate you sharing your journey, like Stephanie mentioned. Awesome. Thank you Stephanie for being here. Up next, Yasim. She's an Instagram expert. What question do you have for Russell? Take it away. Yasim: Thank you, Yhennifer and Russell. What an honor to be speaking to you. I am a huge, huge fan. And just actually before I ask you the question, how you mentioned about family, to me, you are not just a marketing expert, but for me you are one of the biggest ambassadors of women because I have never heard you speak about marketing before you start your sentence with this happened thanks to my beautiful wife. Every single time, you always honor Colette. Every single time, whether I listen to you at that ClickFunnels Live, or it's a podcast or a blog post. And I hit the fortune to meet Colette because I was so curious after hearing about her, and she's a beautiful being. And we know that you mean it with all of your heart. I am single, and I can tell you, I think for all of us single women in the world, you are giving us so much hope and you are modeling such a beautiful way of behavior. So wanted to thank you for that, first of all. Russell: Thank you, I appreciate that. Yasim: That comes from all of my heart. Russell, did you think of actually crowdsourcing this international thing? Because I'm one of your fans, and I know you have fans all over the world. I speak five languages. I would be very happy to help you just to help you. Russell: Oh, very cool. I hadn't thought through that, but maybe as we get closer. We're still trying to figure out all the details of it. So that's great to know. And maybe you can do all the work for all the languages if you've got five. I barely speak English right. Yasim: Thank you. Yeah. I've been in touch with John Parker because I had met him also in ClickFunnels Live. So I can just mention it to him. But yeah, just I thought in your community I'm sure you have people from all the languages. So now my question is, and I'm embarrassed to ask this question because I have been in your world and doing your trainings for a while, but I am only now since few weeks starting the webinar journey myself. And I know you were telling us to start it a lot earlier and I'm embarrassed. I did not. But anyway, I'm watching the trainings and reading the book again. And the one part I'm really unclear about is how do you make the distinction between your origin story and the vehicle? In case it's more clear, I teach about Instagram. So I tell in my origin story that I tried to learn it from the free videos and then I watched online recordings. But social media algorithms change so quickly that you cannot learn this by watching a prerecorded video. You literally need to have live coaching, and that's what I do. But for me, that's the origin story and the vehicle. If you can please help me make the distinction, I would very much appreciate it, thank you. Russell: Yeah, definitely. In fact, at the FHAT event we did this week, I spent probably 15 minutes on a slide trying to explain that because I've had that question a lot. And I explained it and people were like, I finally understand after all these years. So that was cool. So I wish I had the slide in front of me so I can remember exactly how I said it. The answer is you do the webinar and the first part is the origin story about how you discovered the framework, right? I went through this process, I discovered the framework, and this is the framework, right? So for me, it's called FunnelHacking. And then secret number one is now I'm going to show you guys how I developed it. So the origin story is the discovery of the framework. And secret number one is the story about how you developed it, right? So if you look at mine, it's like, a discovery of the framework was me funnel hacking, right? So I went and I bought… it’s me showing the Neuracel funnel, right, so I bought this, and I funnel hacked, and I saw the thing, and I launched my own funnel, and oh my gosh, it made a bunch of money. So that's showing this is how I discovered the framework of funnel hacking. Now here's me how, oh, what's the word again? Discovery of the framework's the first one, and then the development of it, right? So then I come back. Here's how I develop it. The first thing, Tony Robbins told me this. And then I had this over here, and I had this over here, and then I actually teach the strategies. So then step one, this is step two, step three, step four, and you teach the actual strategy. So that's the big differences. It's a little nuanced, but it's origin story's here. Here's the origin story of the framework and how I discovered it. And then this is the origin story of how I developed it. And then you actually teach the strategy in that secret number one. Does that make sense? Yasim: So are you telling a different story for both of those? Because I understand the distinction between the strategies, but I have difficulties creating a different story for the two of them. Russell: Yeah. They are different stories for me. So again, the one is how you discovered it. How I bumped in like, oh, I had the epiphany of, oh, this is the framework and this is kind of the result of it. So I don't go deep into it there. And the second one's now like, okay, now as I was discovering it, let me walk you through how I actually developed this. The first thing I do when I'm developing is I did this, I studied this. It's like the second tier. It's like going deeper in on the story, right? The first one's I discovered, and then here's how I actually developed it. Yasim: Oh, got it. So like you say, this is how I discovered it, and now we are moving on to the secret, secret number one. And that's how you make the liaison, so to speak. Is that correct? Russell: Yep. Because they're tied together. So the first thing, you show your story, how you discovered it. And then like, oh cool, this is awesome. And I was like, okay, now we're going to get to teaching. Step number one, secret number one. And then now I'm going to show you, tell the story of how I developed it. Yep. Yasim: Thank you so much, Russell. This is Yasim, the lady in orange, red. I'm definitely reaching out to you to offer my help with everything because you are awesome. Your teachings are awesome. And the love you always show to your wife and your kids, you are not only a leader in marketing, but you are literally a leader for love, women. I love you with all of my heart, Russell. Russell: Thank you so much, I appreciate that. Yhennifer: Awesome. A shout out to Colette, right? Shout out to Colette. Thank you so much, Yasim. And our last guest here, Ariel. Ariel is a marketing expert in the Spanish speaking world as well. Also an award winner here in the ClickFunnels community. So Ariel, what is your question or what do you want to share here with Russell? Ariel: I do have a question for Russell. Hey Russell, how you doing? Russell: What's up man? Good to hear from you. How you been? Ariel: Good to hear, good. Very good. Very good. I listened to Carolina before, and I say to all the community in Spanish, we are working very hard to bring the first 150,000 Argentinian users to ClickFunnels this year. Really, really, really good to see you here in Clubhouse and hear you, and I'll see you soon. Russell: Yeah. Ariel's been a huge help on our side getting the international stuff. Will you do me a favor? Ariel: Of course. Russell: Will you tell people the story about how you found out about our community? Because I think it's really interesting. Ariel: In Spanish. Russell: The Dotcom Secrets book, how you found that. Ariel: I meet Russell in a plane. A customer called me from United States, and I need to take a plane to Miami. And they found the book. I lose my ticket and I can't fly on business like almost every flight. And I was a tourist. And I found Dotcom Secrets in the pocket of my front seat. Russell: Somebody left the book in the pocket and he found it in the pocket of the seat as he was flying. Ariel: Yeah. That means two things. The planes never are very clean. No, was a great discovery. And I fall in love with you, ClickFunnels, the community, the books, and start that relationship with you and all the ClickFunnels team til now. So was great. Was great discovered the book in 2000, what, 17? Russell: Yeah, probably about then. Ariel: Yeah. Russell: Anyway, I hope that was a crazy story. And then since then he's won 2 Comma Club, 2 Comma Club X, 2 Comma Club C awards and about a million other things. So we are grateful for you and having you in our community, especially your help with all the internationalization stuff we're doing together. Ariel: Thank you. And we will broke again another award. So we have two, maybe 2 Comma Club X this year. And again, the 2 Comma Club C. Will be amazing to give a hug in the stage again. Russell: Excited to see you again soon. Ariel: Thank you, Russell. Yhennifer: That's awesome. Ariel: Thank you Yhennifer, thank you. Yhennifer: Yeah, you're welcome. Congratulations. And we're excited to see you at FunnelHacking Live. I want to reset the room one more time before we close out this episode. Want to remind you guys that we are recording. Also, please click the green little house at the top, the Marketing Secrets Live house so that you can get, excuse me, club so that you didn't get a notification when Russell goes live again. If you loved this information, go onto your social channels and let us know how much fun you had here as well in this live. 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Russell Brunson:

What's up everybody. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I'm going to be letting you guys listen into a live Q&A I did on a recent Marketing Secrets Live Show. If you're not yet part of the Marketing Secrets Live Show, it's a live version of this podcast where I hang out and answer questions live, and it's so much fun. We usually do them about once a week. And if you want to be a part of the next one, go to clubhousewithrussell.com, go and register, and that way you'll be notified the next time I go live. With that said, I'm going to jump into Q&A and hopefully one of your questions is answered. If not, make sure you come on the next live show.

So what we're going to do now, we're going to spend 15 minutes or so opening up for Q&As for any of you guys, have any questions. So Yhennifer, do you want to walk people and me through the process of how we're going to be doing the next step of the podcast?

Yhennifer:

Yes, awesome. All right, guys, I'm going to bring up five people. So just make sure that if you want to speak, if you have a question, just hit the little raising the hand button in the bottom and we'll bring you guys up. As you come on here, make sure that you mute your microphone. So that way there's no background noise in the back. And let's see, we're going to bring some people on here. All right, we've got a few people here that want to join. There we go. All right, make sure you guys mute yourselves.

First, we're going to have Carolina. Carolina, welcome to the club, to the room today. We're so excited to have you here. I know you are a mentor in the Spanish world and also a 2 Comma Club award winner. So what questions do you have for Russell? How do you want to contribute to this conversation?

Carolina:

Hey Russell and Yhennifer, thank you so much for this room. It's been amazing. I was taking notes from everything everyone said, so thank you so much.

Russell:

So good to hear from you.

Carolina:

Yeah, it's always good to hear from you Russell. I hope I can make it to FunnelHacking in September. I hope they let me travel.

Russell:

You just got to sneak out. There's always a way.

Carolina:

I know. Our country is still not allowing us to travel for leisure, just emergencies, but I will say it's an emergency.

Russell:

This is an emergency. FunnelHacking Live is a huge emergency.

Carolina:

I agree. I wanted to ask you just about, maybe not related necessarily to the marketing secrets mentioned today, but just there's a huge community in Latin America, Spain who love ClickFunnels, who love you. And they keep asking me when is ClickFunnels going to be available in Spanish, but also your books. I guess that's my biggest question. Do you guys have any plans for expansion to the Spanish speaking markets? I'd love to hear that from you Russell. Thank you so much.

Russell:

Yeah, that's a great question. The answer is yes, emphatically yes. Next year will be our year of internationalization. That's how you say that, right? We had to do a lot of coding on the ClickFunnels platform to make it so that we can start translating quickly into languages. And that part of the process is actually finished. So we do have translators. In fact, Spanish is the first language that's been translated. The way it works, this is actually kind of cool for the non-techie guys like me when I learned how it works, is they had to go through the whole software and basically any place that there's a sentence or a phrase or something, they had to go and write code around it and say like, this is the phrase, and this is the thing, right? And so obviously there's a lot of places that happens.

And then what happens now, it makes this database where it shows all the sentences, the phrases, the words, the paragraphs, all the stuff. And the translators go in and just retranslate every single thing. And then now we can click a button and it just changes the language across the whole platform and makes sure that the translations are correct. So we do have a team right now doing the Spanish one and making sure that, obviously, not just a direct translation, but one that makes sense. So that's kind of been happening. My guess is shortly after FunnelHacking Live is when we'll be rolling out that inside the ClickFunnels platform, which is exciting. And then we're trying to plug in other languages as well. So that's that.

On the books. Yes, I'm learning about publishers and contracts and things like that because one of my friends, Sharon Lechter, if you guys know her. She was one of the co-authors of Rich Dad, Poor Dad. She also wrote, or did the first version of Outwitting The Devil, which is one of my favorite books of all time. And it was interesting because Outwitting The Devil's already in 40 languages. I'm like, how did you do that? And she's like, when I signed the contract, I kept the international rights and I was able to go and quickly do it across the board. Unfortunately I didn't do that with mine because I didn't know that was a thing. So I've been working with our publishers to see how we can speed up the timeline. I know there's translations happening in four or five languages right now, but the process is slower than I thought or imagined.

As you know, you messaged me the day, the original version of Dotcom Secrets and Expert Secrets are in four or five languages, but it's the older version. And so we're doing all the new updated ones right now. In fact, I got one the other day. I can't remember if it was Vietnamese or something. It was really cool. So yes, they're in process. I wish it was going faster. I'm trying to work with the publishers to figure out a way to move faster on all of it because I agree that's our next big thing for next year is to be able to rebuild all of our funnels in Spanish with the Spanish versions and different languages. And then also have the platform being able to handle that from the languaging inside, but also local merchant accounts that work in different countries because they don't all work in every single country, and then having support teams in each country as well. So we're working on it. It's a bigger process than we had planned initially. But next year is the year that we're trying to get as much of that done as possible. There's the goal.

Carolina:

Awesome. Thank you Russell. And hopefully, maybe even some of your courses like adding subtitles and stuff like that, that would be really neat as well. Maybe 2023, I don't know.

Russell:

Let's do it. There was actually, it's funny, there was a company that came out that was doing that, where they would take a YouTube channel or a video contract courses and you give it to them and they'd retranslate the whole thing. And we were about to hire them and they went out of business right when we were about to hire him. So if you want to start that company, let me know and we can start dropping everything. Literally it was really cool, you give me your YouTube channel. They go through scrape it all, rewrite it all, and launch the Spanish version or the French version or the German version. Anyway, yeah, if someone wants to start that company, I will give you money to do that for me.

Yhennifer:

You heard it first here. Carolina, such a great idea. Spanish market, here we come. Our Spanish people need some of ClickFunnels Russell.

Carolina:

I'll talk to some people. I'll talk to some people and reach out to you.

Russell:

All right, awesome.

Yhennifer:

Awesome. Thank you, Carolina for being here. Next up is Christine. She's a social media specialist, content creator. She manages social media platforms. Christine, the mic is all yours.

Christine:

Hi, I'm Christine and I'm in Dallas, Texas. And unfortunately Russell, I had never heard of you until I met Nikki Nicole. And she is teaching in a room here, excuse me, on a book that you have, Dotcom Secrets.

Russell:

Okay, very cool.

Christine:

Yes, exactly. So now I'm in a room with you.

Russell:

Welcome to the room. Glad to be hanging out.

Christine:

Thank you. And so I have ordered the book.

Russell:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Christine:

All right. That she's training out of, and I'm waiting for the forms and everything to come. What would you say to me is one of the most important item in the book that you would like to make sure that she lets us know in training from your book?

Russell:

As she's training? Oh man. Well, the Dotcom Secrets book. That's the first book I ever wrote. It's by far the one that's my favorite. Everyone's got their favorite one, but that's my favorite one. I think the biggest thing is really understanding the customer journey. That's where I think funnels and all the things we do today are based on that. Most businesses I go into, they're very much like they have a product, they sell the customer the product, and that's the business. I would say the majority of business, that's the way they look at things. Whereas the thing that I've geeked out on for the last two decades of my life is the customer journey. Someone comes in, what's the first thing, and what's the second thing, where do we take them? And how do we move them? And where do we send them to? And how do we serve them at the highest level?

And I think a lot of times business owners are scared. Like, well, if I, if I give them an upsell, if I sell them something else, or if I move them from step one to step two they're going to be offended or whatever. It's like, if you realize that the products and services and things you're creating, that's how you serve your audience, right? When you really believe that, then it's like, okay, how can I serve this person? They come into my world the very first time, right? Right now you've bought the book. You're going to get the book in the mail and now you're going to be into my funnel. And so you'll hear me talk about different things.

I'm probably going to invite you to our 2 Comma Club live event that's happening next week right, because that'd be the next thing. And then after you experience that, then I'll invite you to come to FunnelHacking Live, our big event. Then from there we'll invite you to join our coaching program. Not because I'm a salesman trying to sell a bunch of stuff, but because I honestly believe, and I've seen as we've taken people on this journey, this is the process and the path that gets people success the fastest. And so I think as you're going through the book, realizing that this is about serving at a higher level. That's the whole key. That's what funnels are about. That's what ascension, that's what value ladders, that's what all these things are about is figuring out how to serve your people at the highest level.

And I always tell entrepreneurs, I believe that if you felt that entrepreneurial call and you're starting a business or you're trying to, or whatever, wherever you are in the process, that call is literally a calling from God. Where he's saying, look, there's a group of people you've been called to serve. I've given you unique talents and abilities and things that you can do. And your job is to go figure out how can I take these talents and I can serve these people. And so the Dotcom Secrets book is going to help you with, okay, now that I've found these people, how do I find them? How do I move them? How do I actually serve them at the highest level possible? So that's what I would say is looking through business with that lens, as opposed to, what most businesses are, which is write out your business plan and things like that. It's like, no, how do I serve my customers at a level that nobody else has done yet? And then I can change their lives. And that's how you actually grow a business. So I hope that helps.

Christine:

Thank you so much. And so what I got from it to just make sure that you stick with the process to ensure that you're going to make it to the end, is what I'm hearing.

Russell:

Definitely.

Christine:

Well, you can thank Nikki Nicole for bringing your book to her room. And just know that I appreciate you both because I'm hanging in there. Thank you.

Russell:

That's awesome. Thanks so much.

Yhennifer:

Thank you Christine for being here. Russell, you got people reading your books in other rooms here in Clubhouse.

Russell:

I love it.

Yhennifer:

That is amazing.

Russell:

Tell Nikki thank you. That's amazing.

Yhennifer:

Yes, awesome. Stephanie, you're up. She's a homeschool mama turned seven figure digital marketing agency owner. Also a coach. Welcome, Stephanie. What is your question for Russell or contribution to the conversation?

Stephanie:

What's up guys? Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to be here. Dude, okay, so I've been in the ClickFunnels world and the Russell Brunson world for a long time now. And I have watched you journey through your entrepreneurial journey, and it's just been absolutely incredible. And so, as you were just talking about serving your people at the highest level possible and recognizing the calling from God in your life to reach a certain people group, I've seen in your journey that as you do that and you take hold of that more and more that you have also too worked really hard in your family in order to serve in your family at the highest level possible as well. And I've seen, as you're very transparent and you're vulnerable about it's a struggle as a parent who wants to be intentional with running a business where you want to kill it, you want to serve well, but you also too, don't want to leave your kids behind in the dust, right?

And so why would we build a business to lose, I don't know, for me personally, they're the reason I started the business. And so I guess my question for you is, do you have any, you've got marketing secrets, but as you've built this business, oh, by the way, just plug for Russell's podcast. If you have not listened to the most recent uploads of the Roundtable of World Changers. Oh my gosh, that was so incredible.

Russell:

That was a fun one.

Stephanie:

Oh, it so incredible. And I keep going back and kind of relistening because the adventure that you took with your kids to go with Matt Maddix, and just kind of go out and just hear from kids that are younger and aspiring to these big dreams and everything, it was just incredible. So you guys go listen to those. But Russell, do you have anything, it doesn't have to be like super anything totally profound, but just for you, what are some of the secrets you've found between managing serving well in your business and serving your family well and loving them well?

Russell:

Oh, such a good question. And it's interesting. It's probably not for everybody, but for me business is way easier for me than being a dad. Being a dad is hard and it's emotional. And so it's tough because by default I'm like, I could deal with these things where I can like, oh, business leads, I'll slide over here and do business. And I think that a lot of us have those problems. We have our things that we're really, really good at and then we have things we struggle with, and we always slip to the thing that's going to be the easiest. But man, like every morning I wake up and I love driving my kids to school. I love being there in the morning when they're getting breakfast, and helping them, and just being around them. And try to pay attention to them.

And then I go to work. And at the end of the day, I got to come back because I know they're going to be there. And so I try when my kids are at home, I want to be home as much as possible too. But it's definitely, it's this mental war that all of us have. In fact, I think you know this, I'm in the middle of writing my fourth book right now. And one of the fascinating things, and I found this stat somewhere, and when I found it I was like, oh my gosh, I realized so many reasons why I struggle with things now. But basically the stat was like, the human brain, I think, weighs three pounds. But 25% of our calories are burned by our brain.

In fact, Joe McCall, I think he's down in the group down below, he sent me an article after I mentioned that at the FHAT event. He said that it was an article, I'll mess with the stats, but it showed like chess players who play these chess tournaments, when they're sitting there just moving pieces around, but their brain's working so hard. They'll lose like 20 pounds in a week playing chess at a, at a chess tournament. That's how much our brain is doing. So our brain is burning all these calories and it's tired. So our brain's like I've got two options, I can go work really hard and do this thing or I can find the easiest path. So our brain's always looking for the easiest path.

So for me, it's like, okay, my teenage son is driving me nuts. He's insane. And it's like, I got to go deal with this or I can just go in the office and write a webinar, right? And so for me my brain's like, oh, webinars are way easier. You've done it a million times. It's easier for it to slack off and go there as opposed to confront the situation. Now, as I'm more and more aware of this, I'm looking at this debate with my brain and it's like, no, this is more important because my son, even though he's driving me insane, there's a window where I can like do something here. And if I slip back and go to the easier route, I'm going to miss that window and it's going to be gone. And so just being more aware of that, I think where we realize that our brain wants to do whatever's easiest. And for me, as much as I love my wife and five kids, it's not the easiest path for me.

The easiest path is by far business. For whatever reason, I got good at it. So it's the easiest path. And so it's looking at that and saying, don't always default to the easiest thing, default to the most important thing. And I have a quote that I share all the time is from David O. McKay, says, "That no success can compensate for failure in the home." And I think about that a lot where it's just like, oh, I can go and do this thing that will be so easy. And I'll make more success and all my fans and followers will think I'm awesome. Or it's like, I can have this hard conversation with my kids and I can help them. Or I can go take them to the homeless shelter. Or I can leave everyday at three o'clock and go to wrestling practice with them because I need to be there for them. And that's more important than me stroking my own ego, right, and getting the, you know.

I don't know, it's not a perfect science and I mess up a lot. I'm sure my kids will tell you stories someday about how, as parents are, but I try the best I can. I think the big things is just understanding that the easiest thing's not always the best thing, and understanding that again, no success can compensate for failure in the home. So don't forget the family. Especially for, like Stephanie you mentioned, most of us got in this business because it's like, I want to spend more time with my kids. I want to help. And that's how we got started. And then we got the adrenaline rush and the high from success. And you want to keep defaulting to that because it feels good. And I've seen so many families and marriages destroyed in the wake of success, which is like the worst thing, right? What's the point of it at all at that point> so it's remembering those things so that you don't, in fact, what's the quote? There's some quote that's like, what profit the man if he gains the whole world, if he loses his own soul? I hear that. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't want to lose that.

Stephanie:

Ah, that's so powerful. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. And thank you for just journeying out loud Russell. Just from all of us to you, thank you.

Russell:

No worries. Thank you. And for anyone who's got kids, it is hard. So don't think, someone the other day told me, it's got to be so nice to have the perfect family and perfect life. I started laughing. Like, are you kidding me? I was telling him, like two months ago I was about to, I didn't tell him, I won't repeat the details on recording, but it's tough, but it's amazing.

Yhennifer:

That was so good. So Russell, you see everybody like flashing their mics. That's equivalent to like clapping. So everybody's like clapping.

Russell:

Thanks for clapping guys, that's exciting.

Yhennifer:

Yeah, that's a Clubhouse thing.

Russell:

I'm learning the ways.

Yhennifer:

If you see me and Stephanie, were like clapping away and kind of cheering you on on the things that you're saying here. Family is so important and that was so good. And we do appreciate you sharing your journey, like Stephanie mentioned. Awesome. Thank you Stephanie for being here. Up next, Yasim. She's an Instagram expert. What question do you have for Russell? Take it away.

Yasim:

Thank you, Yhennifer and Russell. What an honor to be speaking to you. I am a huge, huge fan. And just actually before I ask you the question, how you mentioned about family, to me, you are not just a marketing expert, but for me you are one of the biggest ambassadors of women because I have never heard you speak about marketing before you start your sentence with this happened thanks to my beautiful wife. Every single time, you always honor Colette. Every single time, whether I listen to you at that ClickFunnels Live, or it's a podcast or a blog post. And I hit the fortune to meet Colette because I was so curious after hearing about her, and she's a beautiful being. And we know that you mean it with all of your heart. I am single, and I can tell you, I think for all of us single women in the world, you are giving us so much hope and you are modeling such a beautiful way of behavior. So wanted to thank you for that, first of all.

Russell:

Thank you, I appreciate that.

Yasim:

That comes from all of my heart. Russell, did you think of actually crowdsourcing this international thing? Because I'm one of your fans, and I know you have fans all over the world. I speak five languages. I would be very happy to help you just to help you.

Russell:

Oh, very cool. I hadn't thought through that, but maybe as we get closer. We're still trying to figure out all the details of it. So that's great to know. And maybe you can do all the work for all the languages if you've got five. I barely speak English right.

Yasim:

Thank you. Yeah. I've been in touch with John Parker because I had met him also in ClickFunnels Live. So I can just mention it to him. But yeah, just I thought in your community I'm sure you have people from all the languages. So now my question is, and I'm embarrassed to ask this question because I have been in your world and doing your trainings for a while, but I am only now since few weeks starting the webinar journey myself. And I know you were telling us to start it a lot earlier and I'm embarrassed. I did not. But anyway, I'm watching the trainings and reading the book again. And the one part I'm really unclear about is how do you make the distinction between your origin story and the vehicle?

In case it's more clear, I teach about Instagram. So I tell in my origin story that I tried to learn it from the free videos and then I watched online recordings. But social media algorithms change so quickly that you cannot learn this by watching a prerecorded video. You literally need to have live coaching, and that's what I do. But for me, that's the origin story and the vehicle. If you can please help me make the distinction, I would very much appreciate it, thank you.

Russell:

Yeah, definitely. In fact, at the FHAT event we did this week, I spent probably 15 minutes on a slide trying to explain that because I've had that question a lot. And I explained it and people were like, I finally understand after all these years. So that was cool. So I wish I had the slide in front of me so I can remember exactly how I said it. The answer is you do the webinar and the first part is the origin story about how you discovered the framework, right? I went through this process, I discovered the framework, and this is the framework, right? So for me, it's called FunnelHacking. And then secret number one is now I'm going to show you guys how I developed it. So the origin story is the discovery of the framework. And secret number one is the story about how you developed it, right?

So if you look at mine, it's like, a discovery of the framework was me funnel hacking, right? So I went and I bought… it’s me showing the Neuracel funnel, right, so I bought this, and I funnel hacked, and I saw the thing, and I launched my own funnel, and oh my gosh, it made a bunch of money. So that's showing this is how I discovered the framework of funnel hacking. Now here's me how, oh, what's the word again? Discovery of the framework's the first one, and then the development of it, right? So then I come back. Here's how I develop it. The first thing, Tony Robbins told me this. And then I had this over here, and I had this over here, and then I actually teach the strategies. So then step one, this is step two, step three, step four, and you teach the actual strategy. So that's the big differences. It's a little nuanced, but it's origin story's here. Here's the origin story of the framework and how I discovered it. And then this is the origin story of how I developed it. And then you actually teach the strategy in that secret number one. Does that make sense?

Yasim:

So are you telling a different story for both of those? Because I understand the distinction between the strategies, but I have difficulties creating a different story for the two of them.

Russell:

Yeah. They are different stories for me. So again, the one is how you discovered it. How I bumped in like, oh, I had the epiphany of, oh, this is the framework and this is kind of the result of it. So I don't go deep into it there. And the second one's now like, okay, now as I was discovering it, let me walk you through how I actually developed this. The first thing I do when I'm developing is I did this, I studied this. It's like the second tier. It's like going deeper in on the story, right? The first one's I discovered, and then here's how I actually developed it.

Yasim:

Oh, got it. So like you say, this is how I discovered it, and now we are moving on to the secret, secret number one. And that's how you make the liaison, so to speak. Is that correct?

Russell:

Yep. Because they're tied together. So the first thing, you show your story, how you discovered it. And then like, oh cool, this is awesome. And I was like, okay, now we're going to get to teaching. Step number one, secret number one. And then now I'm going to show you, tell the story of how I developed it. Yep.

Yasim:

Thank you so much, Russell. This is Yasim, the lady in orange, red. I'm definitely reaching out to you to offer my help with everything because you are awesome. Your teachings are awesome. And the love you always show to your wife and your kids, you are not only a leader in marketing, but you are literally a leader for love, women. I love you with all of my heart, Russell.

Russell:

Thank you so much, I appreciate that.

Yhennifer:

Awesome. A shout out to Colette, right? Shout out to Colette. Thank you so much, Yasim. And our last guest here, Ariel. Ariel is a marketing expert in the Spanish speaking world as well. Also an award winner here in the ClickFunnels community. So Ariel, what is your question or what do you want to share here with Russell?

Ariel:

I do have a question for Russell. Hey Russell, how you doing?

Russell:

What's up man? Good to hear from you. How you been?

Ariel:

Good to hear, good. Very good. Very good. I listened to Carolina before, and I say to all the community in Spanish, we are working very hard to bring the first 150,000 Argentinian users to ClickFunnels this year. Really, really, really good to see you here in Clubhouse and hear you, and I'll see you soon.

Russell:

Yeah. Ariel's been a huge help on our side getting the international stuff. Will you do me a favor?

Ariel:

Of course.

Russell:

Will you tell people the story about how you found out about our community? Because I think it's really interesting.

Ariel:

In Spanish.

Russell:

The Dotcom Secrets book, how you found that.

Ariel:

I meet Russell in a plane. A customer called me from United States, and I need to take a plane to Miami. And they found the book. I lose my ticket and I can't fly on business like almost every flight. And I was a tourist. And I found Dotcom Secrets in the pocket of my front seat.

Russell:

Somebody left the book in the pocket and he found it in the pocket of the seat as he was flying.

Ariel:

Yeah. That means two things. The planes never are very clean. No, was a great discovery. And I fall in love with you, ClickFunnels, the community, the books, and start that relationship with you and all the ClickFunnels team til now. So was great. Was great discovered the book in 2000, what, 17?

Russell:

Yeah, probably about then.

Ariel:

Yeah.

Russell:

Anyway, I hope that was a crazy story. And then since then he's won 2 Comma Club, 2 Comma Club X, 2 Comma Club C awards and about a million other things. So we are grateful for you and having you in our community, especially your help with all the internationalization stuff we're doing together.

Ariel:

Thank you. And we will broke again another award. So we have two, maybe 2 Comma Club X this year. And again, the 2 Comma Club C. Will be amazing to give a hug in the stage again.

Russell:

Excited to see you again soon.

Ariel:

Thank you, Russell.

Yhennifer:

That's awesome.

Ariel:

Thank you Yhennifer, thank you.

Yhennifer:

Yeah, you're welcome. Congratulations. And we're excited to see you at FunnelHacking Live. I want to reset the room one more time before we close out this episode. Want to remind you guys that we are recording. Also, please click the green little house at the top, the Marketing Secrets Live house so that you can get, excuse me, club so that you didn't get a notification when Russell goes live again. If you loved this information, go onto your social channels and let us know how much fun you had here as well in this live. And Russell back to you.

Russell:

Awesome. Well thank you Yhennifer for helping. Thank you everyone for hanging out today. That was fun. As long as you keeps showing up and keep having a good time, we'll keep doing these. If you want to hear the recording, this stuff later, it will be on the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Just make sure you go to iTunes or Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts and subscribe. And other than that, thanks you guys for hanging out. I had a good time. Thank you Yhennifer. Thank you for everyone on our team who helped put this together today. And with that said, we'll see you guys, hopefully all at FunnelHacking live. We're 105 days away from it starting. If you don't have your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. The party is happening. We're going to be in person, we're having a good time, and we want to make sure you guys are all there if you're able to be there. And other than that, thanks everybody. And we'll see you guys on the next Marketing Secrets Live Show.

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]]> 1903 no LIVE: Origin Story of the Framework https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/live-origin-story-of-the-framework On this episode of Marketing Secrets Live, Russell explains the big “ah-ha” he had during a recent FHAT (Funnel Hack-A-Thon) event. To be on the next Marketing Secrets Live episode, register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Again, this is episode number two from a recent Marketing Secrets live show. I've been doing more of these podcasts live and having so much fun with it. Hopefully you enjoyed the last one where you had a chance to hear some really cool marketing secrets from some of my friends. This episode, I'm actually going to go deeper into something that I've been geeking out on. And I've been thinking about, that I think you are really, really going to enjoy. What I'm going to cover in this episode is actually one of the big ahas I got from a recent event we ran. It was our first live event we've had in, man, in a year and a half, two years, crazy. And it was called the FAHD event, the Funnel Hackathon event. I share one of the big epiphanies that a lot of people had at the FAHD event. If you want to get on our next Marketing Secrets Live show and get your questions answered live and hang out with us, make sure to go to clubhousewithrussell.com, go register for the clubhouse and you'll be notified the next time I go live. All right. Well, I'm excited. Typically, when I record the Marketing Secrets podcast it's me on my phone clicking record and talking. That's what's going to happen for the next 15 minutes or so, it's just sharing you guys the biggest thing that's on my mind right now. And so this week we actually did our very first live event since COVID, which was amazing. Here in our office we have an event room that holds about 60 people and so we did an event. The event is called the FHAT event, and it's not F-A-T, like overweight people who eat donuts and stuff for two days, it was the Funnel Hackathon. So Funnel Hackathon F-H-A-T. So they all nicknamed it the FHAT event. And this is an event we used to do. Four years ago was actually the very first FHAT event we ever did. And it was helping people to figure out their messaging, their story. And then we actually built out a webinar presentation with everybody in the audience, and we did it four years ago. And if you see inside of ClickFunnels community, some of the people who have had the biggest, most successful webinars, people that a lot of seven, a few eight, and a couple of nine figure earners who were in that room at the time, who crafted the webinar that went on to build out their entire businesses and their followings based on that. And so we did it once and then we ran versions of the FHAT event three or four times afterwards. And then, you know, when things work really good, like a lot of us business owners and marketers do, we stopped doing it. So we stopped doing it. I think I was tired of doing the live events. We kind of just paused it and didn't do it for a couple years. And recently I got excited and I'd been working on webinars and frameworks and just things like that. And I was like, I want to do the FHAT event again. And so we put it together. We invited some of our inner circle and some of our Two Comma Club X coaching students to come to it. And we had about 60 people in the office here in Boise the last two days, and then four or 500 people watching from home and it was amazing. It was two days and it was cool because we had a chance, it wasn't just like strategically teaching, like, oh, here's the strategic concepts, but it was very tactical, like, okay, here's slide number one, let me explain the strategy. On slide number one, this is what we do, why we do it, how we do it. And then everyone would jump in and they'd actually build out slide number one. Then we do slide number two, three, and we build out the entire presentation. So it was cool because when it was finished, everybody had a presentation that's done. They can go and they can actually use it to sell their stuff. And so that was what's happening the last two days. So obviously this is what's been top of my mind. And the last day of the event we went around the room and had everyone share their biggest aha and their biggest takeaway. And what was interesting to me is that the thing that came up the most often, that was people's biggest aha was something that I was kind of confused. I didn't realize that it was going to be even that big of a deal, and it was interesting. So before I share what that is if you know how the Perfect Webinar Framework works that we teach, right? When somebody comes on a webinar, first, we have an introduction. From there we share the origin story about how we discovered our framework, and then we have secret one, two, and three. Secret number one, you teach the strategy behind the framework. Secret number two, you teach the strategy behind the internal false belief they're going to have about the framework. Secret number three, you teach the external, false belief that they may have about their ability to use the framework. And then you transition to the stack and the closes. And that's kind of the Perfect Webinar framework, right? If you don't know how it works, if you go to perfectwebinar.com, seven bucks, you can buy the framework and the training that shows you the process. Or read the Expert Secrets book. I go into excruciating detail in that book, walking through the process as well. And so that's kind of, real quick overview of the framework for those who don't know it. Those who have gone through my stuff, you understand how the framework works. And the biggest takeaway people kept saying was fascinating was after they would introduce the webinar, they transitioned to their origin story. And what people were doing is they were just telling their origin story. Like, here's how I became me. Right? And they're telling their origin story. And even people who had really successful webinars, that's what they were doing. And when I kind of rebroke it down, slide by slide, I showed them that it wasn't just the origin story of themself that they're sharing, yet that's what most people were doing. It's the origin story about how you discovered the framework that you're actually teaching on the webinar. So for example, if you watch the webinar that we used to launch ClickFunnels, the framework that I'm teaching is this framework of funnel hacking, of how we find successful funnels. We look at them and reverse engineer them and we build our own funnels. That's the framework that I'm teaching. And so the framework, the origin story I'm sharing is not the origin story about, you know, how I met my wife or the origin story about how I started the business, that's not the origin story I'm sharing. Yet that seemed like for most of the people who were there, they've been sharing their origin story just about their life. Like, I was born on a cold winter night in blah, blah, you know, whatever, like they're telling their story, as opposed to it's the specific story about your discovery of the framework. Like, how did you actually find that framework? That's the story that's being told. Because when you do that, that then gives people the desire to go deeper on the framework. And so when we were building out everyone's webinar, the very first step we did with everyone is, okay with this webinar, there's a result you are promising. What is the result that everyone's, if they go through this 90 minute presentation with you, what's the result that they should be able to get? And so every business was different. There's some people there in the weight loss market, so I'm going to show you how to get six pack abs, how to make a million bucks or how to speed read, or you know, whatever the person, the result they had. And so it became super clear. What's the result? And the second question was, what are all of the things that people are currently doing to try to get that result? Like if someone's registering for your webinar it's probably not the first time they've like, oh, I want to lose weight. I want to make money. In fact, Kaelin Poulin said that the average woman goes through eight diets a year. So almost every month they're starting a new diet, so when they come and they register for your weight loss webinar this is not the first time. They've tried eight other vehicles this year to try to get that one result. And so that's the key is, first off, what's the big result you're promising? What are the other vehicles people are trying to use right now currently to get that result? And this webinar is about what is the new opportunity? What's the new vehicle that you're trying to show them? And so that first origin story is literally telling your story about how you've tried these other vehicles too. I tried this, I tried this, none of these things worked. And that's when this thing happened. Either I had an epiphany or I had an inspiration from God, or I met somebody and they gave me this nugget, this piece, this thing. And that's how I discovered this framework. And this framework is a new opportunity. It's the vehicle, it's a different way to get that result than all the things you've tried in the past. And this is how I found it and why it worked. So that original story, that first 15 minutes of your presentation is you're telling that story of how you discovered this framework. And that's the thing that gets the desire for them to like, okay, now I want to dive into secret one, secret two, secret three, and moving through the stack and the close and the rest of the presentation. And so again, there are probably four or five other people in the room that, that was their biggest takeaway was I always thought the origin story was just telling my story, but it's not. It's the origin story of how you discovered this framework, this vehicle, whatever you want to call it, the new opportunity that you are using to get someone the result that they've been trying to get through all the other things they've been trying in the past. And when they discover that and they hear your story about how you discovered it, all of a sudden, it's like, oh my gosh, now I get it. Now I got to figure this out because you're right. I've tried all these other vehicles. I've tried all these other ways to lose weight, or to make money or to whatever. So you're sharing those. And then this is the discovery that I found, the new opportunity, the thing that's different. And now they're intrigued, and now they're going to go through the actual teaching part of your presentation. So that's what I wanted to share with you guys is just understanding that the origin story is the origin story of your discovery, of the framework that you're going to be sharing with them during the presentation. And so hopefully that helps. And as you guys are creating your presentations again, anything you're trying to sell. In fact, I learned this originally from Perry who was on a little bit earlier, he said that, I think it was back when he was running Digital Marketer. It was like, they looked at all their old sales videos and their ads and stuff like that and anytime in an ad, they tried to convince somebody of more than one thing, the conversions dropped in like half. If they tried to convince them of two things it dropped like 100%, two to 300%. And so when you're creating your presentation, the only thing you're trying to do is get somebody to believe that this framework you're sharing is the best way for them to get the result that they're trying to get. That's the entire goal of the presentation. And so we understand that it's like, okay, what is the result I'm trying to get somebody? What are the other things they've been trying to get? And then this is the key. This is the framework that's going to get them that result. So that's what I wanted to share with you guys today, as you are crafting your sales presentations, it works for webinars, it works with video sales letters, works for upsell offers, works for your ads, works for everything you're doing, it's like that framework, that concept is the same. Sharing the origin story about how you discovered the actual framework. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0000 LIVE: Origin Story of the Framework full 425 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode of Marketing Secrets Live, Russell explains the big “ah-ha” he had during a recent FHAT (Funnel Hack-A-Thon) event. To be on the next Marketing Secrets Live episode, register at  Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me!... On this episode of Marketing Secrets Live, Russell explains the big “ah-ha” he had during a recent FHAT (Funnel Hack-A-Thon) event. To be on the next Marketing Secrets Live episode, register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Again, this is episode number two from a recent Marketing Secrets live show. I've been doing more of these podcasts live and having so much fun with it. Hopefully you enjoyed the last one where you had a chance to hear some really cool marketing secrets from some of my friends. This episode, I'm actually going to go deeper into something that I've been geeking out on. And I've been thinking about, that I think you are really, really going to enjoy. What I'm going to cover in this episode is actually one of the big ahas I got from a recent event we ran. It was our first live event we've had in, man, in a year and a half, two years, crazy. And it was called the FAHD event, the Funnel Hackathon event. I share one of the big epiphanies that a lot of people had at the FAHD event. If you want to get on our next Marketing Secrets Live show and get your questions answered live and hang out with us, make sure to go to clubhousewithrussell.com, go register for the clubhouse and you'll be notified the next time I go live. All right. Well, I'm excited. Typically, when I record the Marketing Secrets podcast it's me on my phone clicking record and talking. That's what's going to happen for the next 15 minutes or so, it's just sharing you guys the biggest thing that's on my mind right now. And so this week we actually did our very first live event since COVID, which was amazing. Here in our office we have an event room that holds about 60 people and so we did an event. The event is called the FHAT event, and it's not F-A-T, like overweight people who eat donuts and stuff for two days, it was the Funnel Hackathon. So Funnel Hackathon F-H-A-T. So they all nicknamed it the FHAT event. And this is an event we used to do. Four years ago was actually the very first FHAT event we ever did. And it was helping people to figure out their messaging, their story. And then we actually built out a webinar presentation with everybody in the audience, and we did it four years ago. And if you see inside of ClickFunnels community, some of the people who have had the biggest, most successful webinars, people that a lot of seven, a few eight, and a couple of nine figure earners who were in that room at the time, who crafted the webinar that went on to build out their entire businesses and their followings based on that. And so we did it once and then we ran versions of the FHAT event three or four times afterwards. And then, you know, when things work really good, like a lot of us business owners and marketers do, we stopped doing it. So we stopped doing it. I think I was tired of doing the live events. We kind of just paused it and didn't do it for a couple years. And recently I got excited and I'd been working on webinars and frameworks and just things like that. And I was like, I want to do the FHAT event again. And so we put it together. We invited some of our inner circle and some of our Two Comma Club X coaching students to come to it. And we had about 60 people in the office here in Boise the last two days, and then four or 500 people watching from home and it was amazing. It was two days and it was cool because we had a chance, it wasn't just like strategically teaching, like, oh, here's the strategic concepts, but it was very tactical, like, okay, here's slide number one, let me explain the strategy. On slide number one, this is what we do, why we do it, how we do it. And then everyone would jump in and they'd actually build out slide number one. Then we do slide number two, three, and we build out the entire presentation. So it was cool because when it was finished, everybody had a presentation that's done. They can go and they can actually use it to sell their stuff. And so that was what's happening the last two days. So obviously this is what's been top of my mind. And the last day of the event we went around the room and had everyone share their biggest aha and their biggest takeaway. And what was interesting to me is that the thing that came up the most often, that was people's biggest aha was something that I was kind of confused. I didn't realize that it was going to be even that big of a deal, and it was interesting. So before I share what that is if you know how the Perfect Webinar Framework works that we teach, right? When somebody comes on a webinar, first, we have an introduction. From there we share the origin story about how we discovered our framework, and then we have secret one, two, and three. Secret number one, you teach the strategy behind the framework. Secret number two, you teach the strategy behind the internal false belief they're going to have about the framework. Secret number three, you teach the external, false belief that they may have about their ability to use the framework. And then you transition to the stack and the closes. And that's kind of the Perfect Webinar framework, right? If you don't know how it works, if you go to perfectwebinar.com, seven bucks, you can buy the framework and the training that shows you the process. Or read the Expert Secrets book. I go into excruciating detail in that book, walking through the process as well. And so that's kind of, real quick overview of the framework for those who don't know it. Those who have gone through my stuff, you understand how the framework works. And the biggest takeaway people kept saying was fascinating was after they would introduce the webinar, they transitioned to their origin story. And what people were doing is they were just telling their origin story. Like, here's how I became me. Right? And they're telling their origin story. And even people who had really successful webinars, that's what they were doing. And when I kind of rebroke it down, slide by slide, I showed them that it wasn't just the origin story of themself that they're sharing, yet that's what most people were doing. It's the origin story about how you discovered the framework that you're actually teaching on the webinar. So for example, if you watch the webinar that we used to launch ClickFunnels, the framework that I'm teaching is this framework of funnel hacking, of how we find successful funnels. We look at them and reverse engineer them and we build our own funnels. That's the framework that I'm teaching. And so the framework, the origin story I'm sharing is not the origin story about, you know, how I met my wife or the origin story about how I started the business, that's not the origin story I'm sharing. Yet that seemed like for most of the people who were there, they've been sharing their origin story just about their life. Like, I was born on a cold winter night in blah, blah, you know, whatever, like they're telling their story, as opposed to it's the specific story about your discovery of the framework. Like, how did you actually find that framework? That's the story that's being told. Because when you do that, that then gives people the desire to go deeper on the framework. And so when we were building out everyone's webinar, the very first step we did with everyone is, okay with this webinar, there's a result you are promising. What is the result that everyone's, if they go through this 90 minute presentation with you, what's the result that they should be able to get? And so every business was different. There's some people there in the weight loss market, so I'm going to show you how to get six pack abs, how to make a million bucks or how to speed read, or you know, whatever the person, the result they had. And so it became super clear. What's the result? And the second question was, what are all of the things that people are currently doing to try to get that result? Like if someone's registering for your webinar it's probably not the first time they've like, oh, I want to lose weight. I want to make money. In fact, Kaelin Poulin said that the average woman goes through eight diets a year. So almost every month they're starting a new diet, so when they come and they register for your weight loss webinar this is not the first time. They've tried eight other vehicles this year to try to get that one result. And so that's the key is, first off, what's the big result you're promising? What are the other vehicles people are trying to use right now currently to get that result? And this webinar is about what is the new opportunity? What's the new vehicle that you're trying to show them? And so that first origin story is literally telling your story about how you've tried these other vehicles too. I tried this, I tried this, none of these things worked. And that's when this thing happened. Either I had an epiphany or I had an inspiration from God, or I met somebody and they gave me this nugget, this piece, this thing. And that's how I discovered this framework. And this framework is a new opportunity. It's the vehicle, it's a different way to get that result than all the things you've tried in the past. And this is how I found it and why it worked. So that original story, that first 15 minutes of your presentation is you're telling that story of how you discovered this framework. And that's the thing that gets the desire for them to like, okay, now I want to dive into secret one, secret two, secret three, and moving through the stack and the close and the rest of the presentation. And so again, there are probably four or five other people in the room that, that was their biggest takeaway was I always thought the origin story was just telling my story, but it's not. It's the origin story of how you discovered this framework, this vehicle, whatever you want to call it, the new opportunity that you are using to get someone the result that they've been trying to get through all the other things they've been trying in the past. And when they discover that and they hear your story about how you discovered it, all of a sudden, it's like, oh my gosh, now I get it. Now I got to figure this out because you're right. I've tried all these other vehicles. I've tried all these other ways to lose weight, or to make money or to whatever. So you're sharing those. And then this is the discovery that I found, the new opportunity, the thing that's different. And now they're intrigued, and now they're going to go through the actual teaching part of your presentation. So that's what I wanted to share with you guys is just understanding that the origin story is the origin story of your discovery, of the framework that you're going to be sharing with them during the presentation. And so hopefully that helps. And as you guys are creating your presentations again, anything you're trying to sell. In fact, I learned this originally from Perry who was on a little bit earlier, he said that, I think it was back when he was running Digital Marketer. It was like, they looked at all their old sales videos and their ads and stuff like that and anytime in an ad, they tried to convince somebody of more than one thing, the conversions dropped in like half. If they tried to convince them of two things it dropped like 100%, two to 300%. And so when you're creating your presentation, the only thing you're trying to do is get somebody to believe that this framework you're sharing is the best way for them to get the result that they're trying to get. That's the entire goal of the presentation. And so we understand that it's like, okay, what is the result I'm trying to get somebody? What are the other things they've been trying to get? And then this is the key. This is the framework that's going to get them that result. So that's what I wanted to share with you guys today, as you are crafting your sales presentations, it works for webinars, it works with video sales letters, works for upsell offers, works for your ads, works for everything you're doing, it's like that framework, that concept is the same. Sharing the origin story about how you discovered the actual framework. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode of Marketing Secrets Live, Russell explains the big “ah-ha” he had during a recent FHAT (Funnel Hack-A-Thon) event. To be on the next Marketing Secrets Live episode, register at ClubHouseWithRussell.com

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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Again, this is episode number two from a recent Marketing Secrets live show. I've been doing more of these podcasts live and having so much fun with it. Hopefully you enjoyed the last one where you had a chance to hear some really cool marketing secrets from some of my friends. This episode, I'm actually going to go deeper into something that I've been geeking out on. And I've been thinking about, that I think you are really, really going to enjoy. What I'm going to cover in this episode is actually one of the big ahas I got from a recent event we ran. It was our first live event we've had in, man, in a year and a half, two years, crazy. And it was called the FAHD event, the Funnel Hackathon event. I share one of the big epiphanies that a lot of people had at the FAHD event.

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All right. Well, I'm excited. Typically, when I record the Marketing Secrets podcast it's me on my phone clicking record and talking. That's what's going to happen for the next 15 minutes or so, it's just sharing you guys the biggest thing that's on my mind right now. And so this week we actually did our very first live event since COVID, which was amazing. Here in our office we have an event room that holds about 60 people and so we did an event. The event is called the FHAT event, and it's not F-A-T, like overweight people who eat donuts and stuff for two days, it was the Funnel Hackathon. So Funnel Hackathon F-H-A-T. So they all nicknamed it the FHAT event. And this is an event we used to do. Four years ago was actually the very first FHAT event we ever did. And it was helping people to figure out their messaging, their story.

And then we actually built out a webinar presentation with everybody in the audience, and we did it four years ago. And if you see inside of ClickFunnels community, some of the people who have had the biggest, most successful webinars, people that a lot of seven, a few eight, and a couple of nine figure earners who were in that room at the time, who crafted the webinar that went on to build out their entire businesses and their followings based on that. And so we did it once and then we ran versions of the FHAT event three or four times afterwards. And then, you know, when things work really good, like a lot of us business owners and marketers do, we stopped doing it. So we stopped doing it. I think I was tired of doing the live events. We kind of just paused it and didn't do it for a couple years.

And recently I got excited and I'd been working on webinars and frameworks and just things like that. And I was like, I want to do the FHAT event again. And so we put it together. We invited some of our inner circle and some of our Two Comma Club X coaching students to come to it. And we had about 60 people in the office here in Boise the last two days, and then four or 500 people watching from home and it was amazing. It was two days and it was cool because we had a chance, it wasn't just like strategically teaching, like, oh, here's the strategic concepts, but it was very tactical, like, okay, here's slide number one, let me explain the strategy. On slide number one, this is what we do, why we do it, how we do it. And then everyone would jump in and they'd actually build out slide number one. Then we do slide number two, three, and we build out the entire presentation.

So it was cool because when it was finished, everybody had a presentation that's done. They can go and they can actually use it to sell their stuff. And so that was what's happening the last two days. So obviously this is what's been top of my mind. And the last day of the event we went around the room and had everyone share their biggest aha and their biggest takeaway. And what was interesting to me is that the thing that came up the most often, that was people's biggest aha was something that I was kind of confused. I didn't realize that it was going to be even that big of a deal, and it was interesting. So before I share what that is if you know how the Perfect Webinar Framework works that we teach, right?

When somebody comes on a webinar, first, we have an introduction. From there we share the origin story about how we discovered our framework, and then we have secret one, two, and three. Secret number one, you teach the strategy behind the framework. Secret number two, you teach the strategy behind the internal false belief they're going to have about the framework. Secret number three, you teach the external, false belief that they may have about their ability to use the framework. And then you transition to the stack and the closes. And that's kind of the Perfect Webinar framework, right? If you don't know how it works, if you go to perfectwebinar.com, seven bucks, you can buy the framework and the training that shows you the process. Or read the Expert Secrets book. I go into excruciating detail in that book, walking through the process as well.

And so that's kind of, real quick overview of the framework for those who don't know it. Those who have gone through my stuff, you understand how the framework works. And the biggest takeaway people kept saying was fascinating was after they would introduce the webinar, they transitioned to their origin story. And what people were doing is they were just telling their origin story. Like, here's how I became me. Right? And they're telling their origin story. And even people who had really successful webinars, that's what they were doing. And when I kind of rebroke it down, slide by slide, I showed them that it wasn't just the origin story of themself that they're sharing, yet that's what most people were doing. It's the origin story about how you discovered the framework that you're actually teaching on the webinar. So for example, if you watch the webinar that we used to launch ClickFunnels, the framework that I'm teaching is this framework of funnel hacking, of how we find successful funnels. We look at them and reverse engineer them and we build our own funnels. That's the framework that I'm teaching.

And so the framework, the origin story I'm sharing is not the origin story about, you know, how I met my wife or the origin story about how I started the business, that's not the origin story I'm sharing. Yet that seemed like for most of the people who were there, they've been sharing their origin story just about their life. Like, I was born on a cold winter night in blah, blah, you know, whatever, like they're telling their story, as opposed to it's the specific story about your discovery of the framework. Like, how did you actually find that framework? That's the story that's being told. Because when you do that, that then gives people the desire to go deeper on the framework.

And so when we were building out everyone's webinar, the very first step we did with everyone is, okay with this webinar, there's a result you are promising. What is the result that everyone's, if they go through this 90 minute presentation with you, what's the result that they should be able to get? And so every business was different. There's some people there in the weight loss market, so I'm going to show you how to get six pack abs, how to make a million bucks or how to speed read, or you know, whatever the person, the result they had. And so it became super clear. What's the result? And the second question was, what are all of the things that people are currently doing to try to get that result?

Like if someone's registering for your webinar it's probably not the first time they've like, oh, I want to lose weight. I want to make money. In fact, Kaelin Poulin said that the average woman goes through eight diets a year. So almost every month they're starting a new diet, so when they come and they register for your weight loss webinar this is not the first time. They've tried eight other vehicles this year to try to get that one result. And so that's the key is, first off, what's the big result you're promising? What are the other vehicles people are trying to use right now currently to get that result? And this webinar is about what is the new opportunity? What's the new vehicle that you're trying to show them? And so that first origin story is literally telling your story about how you've tried these other vehicles too.

I tried this, I tried this, none of these things worked. And that's when this thing happened. Either I had an epiphany or I had an inspiration from God, or I met somebody and they gave me this nugget, this piece, this thing. And that's how I discovered this framework. And this framework is a new opportunity. It's the vehicle, it's a different way to get that result than all the things you've tried in the past. And this is how I found it and why it worked. So that original story, that first 15 minutes of your presentation is you're telling that story of how you discovered this framework. And that's the thing that gets the desire for them to like, okay, now I want to dive into secret one, secret two, secret three, and moving through the stack and the close and the rest of the presentation.

And so again, there are probably four or five other people in the room that, that was their biggest takeaway was I always thought the origin story was just telling my story, but it's not. It's the origin story of how you discovered this framework, this vehicle, whatever you want to call it, the new opportunity that you are using to get someone the result that they've been trying to get through all the other things they've been trying in the past. And when they discover that and they hear your story about how you discovered it, all of a sudden, it's like, oh my gosh, now I get it. Now I got to figure this out because you're right. I've tried all these other vehicles. I've tried all these other ways to lose weight, or to make money or to whatever. So you're sharing those. And then this is the discovery that I found, the new opportunity, the thing that's different.

And now they're intrigued, and now they're going to go through the actual teaching part of your presentation. So that's what I wanted to share with you guys is just understanding that the origin story is the origin story of your discovery, of the framework that you're going to be sharing with them during the presentation. And so hopefully that helps. And as you guys are creating your presentations again, anything you're trying to sell. In fact, I learned this originally from Perry who was on a little bit earlier, he said that, I think it was back when he was running Digital Marketer. It was like, they looked at all their old sales videos and their ads and stuff like that and anytime in an ad, they tried to convince somebody of more than one thing, the conversions dropped in like half. If they tried to convince them of two things it dropped like 100%, two to 300%.

And so when you're creating your presentation, the only thing you're trying to do is get somebody to believe that this framework you're sharing is the best way for them to get the result that they're trying to get. That's the entire goal of the presentation. And so we understand that it's like, okay, what is the result I'm trying to get somebody? What are the other things they've been trying to get? And then this is the key. This is the framework that's going to get them that result. So that's what I wanted to share with you guys today, as you are crafting your sales presentations, it works for webinars, it works with video sales letters, works for upsell offers, works for your ads, works for everything you're doing, it's like that framework, that concept is the same. Sharing the origin story about how you discovered the actual framework.

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]]> 683 no LIVE: My Clubhouse Guests Share Their Biggest Marketing Secret! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/live-my-clubhouse-guests-share-their-biggest-marketing-secret On this episode of Marketing Secrets Live, Russell brings on some of his best marketing friends and asked each of them to share their biggest marketing secret! You don’t want to miss out on this valuable info! Register for the next LIVE episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I've got something special for you guys for the next three episodes. Some of you guys know we've been recently doing the Marketing Secrets Live show because as much as I love recording podcasts, it's kind of fun when I do the live versions, which means there's different energy people come on and they ask the questions. It's awesome. So recently we did a Marketing Series Live show, and if you want to be on the next one we do, make sure go to Clubhouse with Russell.com, Clubhouse with Russell.com. When you go there, you can subscribe to the Marketing Secrets Live Clubhouse group. And then when I go live, you get notified. It is on the Clubhouse app, but it's fun because it pops up, we can talk, you have to just hangout, I bring a special guest, and then I talk for a while and then we do Q&A at the end. And so some of you guys have had chance to hang out with me and get your live questions answered and so much fun. So if you want to be part of that, all you've got to do is go to Clubhouse with Russell.com, it's free and we record these things live. So the last one we did, it was a little over an hour long. The first section I brought in some of my friends and guests and asked them what their biggest marketing secret was. And these guys dropped gold. Like it was so good. In fact, one of them completely changed how I'm doing one of my funnels because of just one idea. It was amazing. And then after that I talked about some cool things I'm interested in, and then we opened Q&A. So I'm going take that live episode, we're going to break it out over three episodes. And so this first one is going to be where you have a chance to listen to some of my friends coming and sharing their biggest marketing secret. So with that said, I'm going to jump right into the podcast. You have chance to listen in. And like I said, if you want to be on the next one, go to Clubhouse with Russell.com, go sign up. Right now they're kind of sporadic. We'll probably find a date and a time that's consistent, but the format I'm really liking. So it starts off with people coming on, sharing their number one marketing secret, then I share the thing I'm most excited by, and then I open it with Q&A. So make sure you have the live ones. With that said I'm excited to let you guys kind of jump right in here to the last Marketing Secrets Live Show we do. All right everybody, I want to officially welcome you to Marketing Secrets Live Show. I'm so excited to have you all here. This is really fun doing it on Clubhouse. I've got five special guests who have agreed to come on today and share their biggest marketing secret before we dive into the actual podcast episode. And so I'm really excited to have you guys all on for that. In fact, one of them is the dude who actually told me to join Clubhouse back when it first came out. And so, I'll let you see him here in a minute, but I wanted to lead first off with Anthony Morrison. So Anthony is someone who I have known now for... Before he knew me, I guarantee I used to watch him on infomercials. I remember the very first time I saw him, we were at some event and he was sitting at the table with all the cool kids and I was on the table next to him with none of the cool kids, and I was like, "Someday, I'm going to meet that guy, we're going to be friends. It's going to be awesome." And now, I think he's won like 2000 Two Comma Club awards from us. He's one of the people that has been a huge supporter since day one, super grateful for him. He's one of our... In fact, I think he is the top affiliate inside of ClickFunnels right now. And not only top affiliate, but again, if you can see even his profile picture here on Clubhouse, he's won pretty much every award we've gotten four or five or 20 times. So with that said, Anthony Morrison, how are you doing today, bud? Anthony Morrison: What's up, man? What's up? I'm doing good. How about you? Russell: I'm doing awesome. I'm having fun trying to do a podcast live. So this is kind of a cool process. But I know you're short on time, so what I would love is, obviously the podcast is called the Marketing Secret Show, and I would love for you to share whatever your biggest marketing secret is right now inside your businesses having success. And with that, I'll hand it over to you. Anthony: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, look, I've got a few things obviously that I'm working on, and I think trying to pick which one is always my thing, right? Like, "Which one is going to give the most value to the people listening here?" And I think maybe for me, it's probably still kind of going back to... I know a lot of people, Russel, that are following you, that are part of the ClickFunnels community. I mean, most all of them are creating a product, they're creating their own informational product, they want to get it out to the world and they're using funnels to make that happen. And so I'll tell you my most successful funnel. How about that? Would that'd be good? Russell: Yeah, that'd be awesome. Anthony: Okay. My most successful funnel for the past three years, and it's interesting because some of the guys up here with me, I know Perry, Keyala, Kevin, these guys have also been kind of instrumental in giving me tips and strategies and stuff for the last three years that I've implemented in this funnel. But it's a funnel that sells a product for seven bucks. So it's kind of against the grain. I know that we often hear so much about how we always want to sell for more, sell at a higher price, make higher ticket sales. For me, what I did was I kind of went against the grain and I created a $7 product. It's called Partner With Anthony. I don't suggest any of you go and buy it, but you can go look at the sales page and check it out and see how we've set it up. But the cool thing about this is that I started thinking about how Russell set up these funnels, right? And it's with the intent of the minute that somebody hits this page, we want to essentially funnel them, right? Into becoming a buyer. Right? And so what I thought about, Russell, was why do we stop the funnel there? Why can't the education also be a funnel? Why can't we have an educational funnel so that once they buy through your sales funnel, your education also becomes a sales funnel. And so what we did with this product was we said, "Hey look, let's get as many people as we can into our ecosystem by selling something for seven bucks. And then once people get into the education, once they're in this educational platform, let's create the education in a way that kind of is broken down almost like you would do..." I mean look, you do this at Funnel Hacking Live, and I know everybody else that does events, you do this long three-day event. And at the of that event, there's a sale. But all the information in the previous two and a half days was designed to help create the desire for people to buy that thing that's being sold. And so that's what I do inside of the education. The education is designed to create content for purpose. So that's what we really do. And the purpose is to deliver the value and on the promise that we made. So if we teach people, like in the Partner With Anthony program, we're teaching them to become affiliate marketers. We're showing them how to be affiliates, right? So we want to make sure that is up. You're not paying attention to everything you're hearing, because you're also looking for, "What's he going to sell me? What's the price going to be?" All that stuff. But when we transfer ourselves out of that and we put ourselves into the education that we've purchased, we let our guard down a little bit. We quit being so closed off. We quit looking for red flags. We quit looking for, "What's going to cost me this, and what's going to cost me that?" And we really start to consume the information that we've bought. And when you do that, when you have a person in that environment, it's much easier to sell them, right? Because they don't realize they're being sold, you're selling through education. And so that's what we do with this little $7 funnel. We push as many people as we can into this educational sales funnel, if you will. And throughout that education we sell, and a lot of people ask me, "Man, how am I the number one ClickFunnels affiliate?" I don't ever run specific promotions. You don't ever see an ad for me on Facebook that says, "Here, come buy ClickFunnels. It's awesome." It's always sold through education. That is how I've sold all of these ClickFunnels accounts. I'm selling through education, not necessarily through my sales funnel. And so Partner With Anthony is one of those things that allows me to sell ClickFunnels through my education. So I would say one of the things you ought to start looking at is don't stop your sales funnel at the end of the sales funnel. Just transfer that selling into your education and start creating this educational sales funnel, so that once somebody comes through, now you continue to sell through education. That funnel, man, is doing seven figures a month for our company at a $7 price point. It's actually more successful than pretty much any funnel I've ever run. And it's been successful on every platform. We find high ticket, low ticket, all these, they work in different platforms. I mean, we're able to have positive return on investment from Facebook, from YouTube ads, from YouTube Organic and pretty much anywhere and everywhere we promote it. So maybe just don't always look at the highest ticket item. If you really want to create a company and a business that's going to thrive and going to continue to grow, in my opinion anyway, you need buyer velocity. You need a lot of buyers. You need a lot of people coming into your ecosystem so that they're introduced not only to your brand, but also all of your products, and this little $7 funnel is how we're making it happen. Russell: That is awesome. I think it's interesting too, especially the way you do it because the education is not free, it's $7, but then inside of education, you recommending the tools and the things like that. And so I think some people may be nervous like, "Oh, well, what if they feel like I'm upselling them on the next info product?" Or whatever. But it's like, you're not only selling the info, but you're selling the tools that you need to implement the thing that they just learned. Right? Which I think is, it's fascinating to think Anthony: Think about in college, right? This always amazes me. So people always say, "Well, wait a minute, people are going to get mad when you sell them something." Well, I know people... Look, we all know this, if I go to your website, Russell and I click buy, and then right after I clicked buy and I put in my information, and then you have a little video that pops up and says, "But wait, you can upgrade and get all this better stuff." People are like, "Oh man, I'm so mad. Why didn't you just tell me everything upfront?" Right? We hear that, people don't love upsells. But here's what's interesting, when the upsell is within the education like this, and it's not positioned necessarily as an upsell, but more so as either an essential tool or an added benefit, something that can help you grow within this course, people don't feel the same way about it. And if you think about it, it's a lot like college, you pay all this money to go to college, the minute you sit down in a desk, they give you a list of all the books you've got to go buy and they charge you thousands of dollars for these books that are 20 years old. And then they say, "Hey, you've got to have a specific calculator, and you've got to..." And people go and buy all those things, and they're not mad at the college. They don't go screaming and hollering at the college saying, "You didn't tell me I needed a calculator and these books." You know what I'm saying? So, once it's something that you're using I guess to consume and implement the education that you've purchased, I think that that disdain for the upsells kind of fades a little bit and it becomes more of like, "Hey, I'm going to do this because I've already bought into this. So now I need to get all the tools, resources, and help that I can to make this work." Russell: Very cool. Well, awesome, man. I appreciate it, that's an awesome tip. We could teach the whole three-day course on that concept alone, but hopefully everyone who's listening like "There's a nugget, there's a marketing secret." That you guys can all look at as like, "How do I build a front education system that sends people to my other products and services or the ones I affiliate for, and then selling it for $7?" You can get as many people in as possible. It's awesome. So, thanks, man. I appreciate you sharing that marketing secret. Anthony: Absolutely man. Russell: Very cool. All right, with that said, we'll move on to our next guest. We've got five total here. So let me see, number two. Let's see. How about we bring on Kevin David. So Kevin, I actually met Kevin for the very first time at Funnel Hacking Live when he was on stage getting a Two Comma Club award. And then I met him the next year getting a Two Comma Club X award. And anyway, someone who's been just killing it. He's got a huge YouTube channel. He's got a bunch of other stuff, won a whole bunch of awards from us, dream car winner, a bunch of other things. With that said, Kevin, how are you doing today? Kevin David: Hey, what's up Russell? I just want to take a minute to appreciate Anthony's…. Okay. Awesome. I just said I wanted to appreciate Anthony's profile picture. For people who are on the podcast not seeing it, he's literally standing in front of every award that ClickFunnels has ever created. And it's just an epic picture. So I should repost that somewhere. But yeah, no, it's funny. I told the story a lot of times, Russell that... The first and only two times we've ever met in person were getting in to Comma Club and then me on stage telling you I'll be back next year for the eight figure award. And I actually forgot to apply for the 50,000,000 one. But maybe I'll get around to it this year. Russell: You better hurry. We're 105 days away from Funnel Hacking Live. So you've got a little time to get it in, but you've got to hurry. Kevin: Absolutely. Russell: Very cool. All right. So with that said, I'd love if you want to share your number one marketing secret with anyone who's listening right now. Be awesome. Kevin: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'm going to give two, and I'm kind of going to assume that your audience is a little bit more advanced, right? For a lot of the introductory stuff, people can find it on YouTube and blogs and things like that, but kind of the stuff that's much more difficult to find is kind of the more advanced stuff that happens more so for the kind of marketers that are really doing things at a large level, spending millions of dollars and things like that. And so, I've talked to Anthony and many people about this, and a lot of the guys kind of coordinate and figure out what works and what doesn't. For me, I'm going to give two simple ones that are really immediately implementable. So on YouTube, you can actually do a variety of different types of targeting, right? You can do keywords, you can do in-markets, topics, and target specific things like that. A lot of people try to get super over complicated and put these huge thousand keyword lists into YouTube to target them. But what I've found is you can actually target people on YouTube from what they've searched on Google in the last seven days. And that's really, really powerful because in-stream marketing on YouTube is actually much cheaper than Google keyword marketing. And so instead of trying to get all fancy and do these big thousand keyword long tail lists, what we've found is literally just uploading a single keyword, one keyword literally, into those in-markets, excuse me, into those in-stream segments actually works extremely well. So for example, we might upload an entire audience as a one keyword list just for the word money. Another example is we've proven and found that the keyword "business business business", literally that word three times is actually 20X profitable for us. And it has been for years for whatever reason. And we found that just by putting the word "business" as a broad match keyword campaign, and then Google actually auto-populates multiple variants of that based on "business" and then adding "business business" three different times, even though that seems ridiculous, that particular keyword, "business business business", has made us tens of thousands of dollars over the course of however long we've been doing things. The second one that I'll give is kind of a little strategy for people that kind of run Typeform Funnels, or any type of funnels that have purchases. What we've found is instead of having just a single "Thank you" page, we actually differ… find people similar to those higher qualified leads, which just makes everything so much more profitable and so much more successful on paid media. Russell: Dude, that's awesome. Very cool. I lost some audio on my side for a second, but I got most of it though. That was awesome. Hopefully I don't... I think it was something on my phone, so I think everyone's got it. So very, very cool. Anything else you want to share with people before we move on? Kevin: I mean, not really. I just... Every time we get to talk, Russell, it's always an honor. You really helped me a lot. And so the people listening to Russell's podcast, you guys are listening to one of the best, if not the GOAT in marketing. So I just appreciate every time we get to connect brother. Russell: Very cool, man. I appreciate you. Well hopefully some day we'll hang out in real besides just on stage, but we'll see you in a couple of months on getting the next awards. Thanks so much, man. I appreciate you coming on. Kevin: Absolutely. Russell: Very cool. Hey Yhennifer, before we go onto the next guest, do you have any announcements that you want to make sure that... I'm sure I'm forgetting some of the things I'm supposed to be doing? So as a newbie Clubhouser, let me make sure I'm doing this right. Yhennifer: All right. Awesome. We're going to reset the room really quickly here. I just want to send a reminder to everyone that we're recording for the Marketing Secrets podcast. Also, you see that little plus sign at the bottom? Ping your friends, add some people into this room that you feel will get tons of value from this podcast episode. And one more thing, make sure that you click on that green little house, Marketing Secrets Live on the top of this room and follow the club for more episodes. Take it away, Russell. Russell: Awesome. Thank you, Yhennifer. Okay, our next guest, I'm excited to bring on. The next guest is someone who literally... I'm reading through the bio here. The first year of using ClickFunnels at over eight figures, multiple eight figures actually very first year, which is crazy, has gone on to do a whole bunch more cents then, and excited to bring our next guest. Who is Keyala. How are you doing man? Keyala: Whoa, buddy. We've never even met and you said my name right. Kudos to you my brother. Russell: I'm not going to lie, I'm a little nervous. I was making sure I got it correct. So I nailed huh? Keyala: You know that you did a good job, and first I just want to thank you for having me out. You have some all-stars on the stage and you even invited Perry too. Russell: Shots fired. Keyala: Shots fired. Yes. Perry Belcher: Remember, I know where you live. Keyala: That's a true story. All right. So marketing tip, Russell. I'm going to give something that's a little advanced, I think. Russell: Okay. Keyala: So the question most often, right? Is so when we... I started out, to give you some history, I started out as an affiliate marketer. And at the end of 2016, the last week of November, 2016, I launched our courses and coaching business, teaching people affiliate marketing, and within four months we got to seven figures a month. Over the next year and a half or so I had 80 million views on my top performing YouTube ad. So kind of the question that I get most often is how did I ramp up growth that fast? And it really comes down to this concept, which is I think simple but often overlooked. And that concept is knowing your numbers. So for me, the game of scaling is just a game of mathematics. So what do I mean by that? So knowing my numbers means that I knew that the reason that I was able to scale so quickly is because I knew what every customer was worth. So I was running a funnel, a webinar funnel, where somebody could buy a low ticket sub $100 front end, and when they bought that low ticket sub $100 front end, they would then qualify to speak to my sales team. My sales team would then interview them. If they were a fit, we'd make a 10K offer. Well, I knew every time I got somebody to spend $99 on our front end product, I ultimately would make a thousand dollars within about 60 days, because I just followed the numbers as we were scaling up the campaigns. Once I knew what that customer was going to be worth to me in 90, sorry, 60 days, I was then able to go into... And this is an advanced strategy, but negative customer acquisition. So a lot of marketers that I've talked to are trying to break even on day zero or day one. Right? Russell: Yeah. Keyala: And in contrast, I was spending sometimes as much as $500 acquiring a $99 customer. So why is that significant? It's significant because whoever can spend the most in the marketplace on customer acquisition is going to own that marketplace. So engineering my YouTube views on my YouTube ads was the simple fact that I was willing to, because I knew my numbers so well, I was willing to spend more than my competitors were willing to spend. And we have a method in our media buying process we call The Bully Method, which I actually took the term from Tim Burg, where we would go in and we would just outbid everybody else who was... So we would manually bid an outbid everybody else in our space. So we would take what we're paying for a CPM, cost per thousand impressions, and we would 10X that amount just to force our ads into the feed, because I knew that I could outspend all of my competitors, right? So I was able to engineer through that process, through knowing my numbers, I was able to engineer that growth, and that's how we were able to hit those seven figures per month within just four months of launching. Russell: That's awesome. Keyala: And when you know your numbers, it really gives you a level of freedom. So as an example, when I sat down... February of 2017, I sat down with my team. We were looking at what the numbers were trending for over the past 90 days of running ads. And I said, "Listen, so next month, we're going to hit a million dollars a month. And here's how we're going to do it." And I broke it down for them. I said "In order for us to hit a million dollars next month, we need to have this many appointments on the calendar for our sales team. In order for us to get that many appointments on the calendar, we need to have this many front end buyers." Not every front end buyer would book an appointment on the calendar. I knew exactly what the ratio was. "In order for us to have that many front end buyers, we need to get this many people registered for the webinar." Because I knew exactly what percentage of registrants actually converted to a front end buyer. And then I said, "In order for us to be profitable on all of that, we can't pay more than 12..." It was roughly about $12.50, somewhere in that ballpark, per registrant. "So, marketing team, can we do that? How do we engineer so that we're driving up X amount of registrations a day, at or below $12.50 so that we can hit this seven figure, this million dollar mark, the following month in March?" And we ended up hitting it about three weeks into the month. So oftentimes when I'm talking with marketers at masterminds or at events, they'll be asking about how to grow their business, how to scale their business. And a lot of it had to be... To be mean, it's just a lot of pin the debt... Pin the tail on the donkey tactics, right? They're kind of running blind, because I'll start asking, "Well, what does every customer that clicks the buy button, what are they worth?" "Well, I don't know." "Oh, what does every person that speaks to your sales team worth?" "I don't know." Or they'll say things like, "Well, the average customer... Our most common product is this product." And I'll say, "Well, that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking you the moment that somebody gets to your order page and submits that credit card information, ultimately, what does that customer worth to you?" And if they don't know, then they are, to a degree, running blind, right? They're trying to scale their business without having the metrics to know how to scale it. And therefore, playing pin the tail on the donkey. The good news is I love math, so it works out really well. But if you don't, there's data analysts out there that you can hire that will come in and run that data for you and help you figure these numbers out, which will give you a game plan that you can follow. It's a treasure map to the promise land, so to speak. So that would be my number one tactic. Russell: That's awesome, man. I appreciate. I remember the very first event I ever went to 19 years ago, I heard Mike Litman speak and he said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And when he said that it made no sense to me, but I remember hearing that and I was like, "Oh crap, am I an amateur?" I literally was focusing on the front end. And it was a couple of years later as I kept learning this game where I started to kind of realize what you're talking about now, which is like, "Okay, here's the funnel. Here's the pieces. What's the profit at each step?" And a hundred percent, since we were able to figure those things out and we knew, "Oh, we can spend, again, $70, $80 to sell a free book, or to give away a free plus shipping." Or whatever it was, because we knew to value everything. And then that's when we started scaling as well. So I think that's awesome. I appreciate you sharing that for sure. Very cool. This is fun. I'm actually really enjoying this. I'm getting good ideas on my side. If you guys like it as well, let us know. Okay. We've got one more guest speaker. Before we do, I'm going to pass back over to Yhennifer to make sure that we've got the room set up for everything before we move on to Perry Belcher. Yhennifer: So I'm excited to have all you guys here. Thank you for being in this room. Just again, another reminder we are recording here for the Marketing Secrets podcast. Make sure that you click on that little green house at the top to follow the club so that you can get notifications when Russell goes live again, we're planning to do many, many more of these. And also ping, some friends in the room, invite some people so they can come in here and join us for this awesome conversation. Back to you, Russell. Russell: Awesome, thank you so much. All right, so my last special guest today before we transition to full podcast, is someone who I have been a friend and an admirer of for, man, as long as I think of, 10, 15 years. He's one of the co-founders of Digital Marketer and about a million other things. Probably the greatest storyteller I've ever met. One of my favorite people to hear speak and teach and listen. And he's the person who told me to get on Clubhouse initially. So all of those people, if you put them all together is Perry Belcher. So Perry, thanks for jumping on today, man. I appreciate you. Perry: All right, man. Well, let me start off by griping a little bit. So number one, with the exception of Kevin, who's a really nice guy, I went to his place. I ate good food, he was nice to me. I don't really like anybody else on this whole panel. Morrison in front of his fancy schmancy wall of awards. And I've got a bone to pick with you, Russell. How much stuff have I sold on ClickFunnels? You sent me nothing. I got nothing. I get no respect here. I got stuff on the wall from ClickBank. I got stuff on the wall from YouTube. I got stuff on a wall from everybody. I got nothing from ClickFunnels. I'll tell you that. I get no respect. Russell: Have you filled out the form that says, "I apply...?" Perry: Whatever. Forms shcmorms, whatever. Keyala know-it-all, talks all the time. These guys, I don't know where you find them. Russell: Well with that intro, man I... Perry: What can I do for you? Can you get me to help you pick better panelists next time? I'll tell you… Russell: That would actually be super helpful. Perry: These guys, I don't know. Not all of these guys obviously. But I do think we ought to make Morrison box up half of those things and send them to me. It's only fair. Russell: It's only fair. Anthony: They can't get 18 wheelers down my street. So can I send you a 10th of them? Russell: Oh, that's awesome. Well, Perry, you've done pretty much everything in this business from physical products to info products, to coaching, to flying to china... Everything I think people could do to make money, I think you've done it three or four times. I'm curious, right now through the lens, what would be your biggest marketing secret you could share to people right now today? Perry: Actually I was thinking about this because when I talked to, I think it was Miles the other day, he kind of gave me a prompt what the question was going to be. Really two things, and one's extensive, and that's learning to tell a really good story. I think people really don't... Most people have no clue how to tell a story about themselves, their company or their products, or what they do. And I think I've been really good at that. I kind of had a natural talent for, but I've gotten really, really good at over years. And I think that's been a big help for me. And the trick or the cheat on top of that, if you're not good at it or if you are, it's even better, is something that almost nobody does but me. And that's physical premiums. I use physical premiums in every marketing campaign that I have, and Morrison and I were talking the other day, I kind of know some of his numbers, but I got a $7 offer like his now, and my CPA yesterday was $22 because I gave away a $5 hat, you know? And his is I think considerably more than that I'm guessing. Anthony, is that still true? Anthony: Oh yeah. It's definitely a lot more. Perry: Yeah. I just love physical premiums and I use them all the way through the funnel. I start with a physical premium. When I go to the upsell, I add another premium and go to the next step sell, add another premium. And people just really don't understand the leverage that a physical premium gives you. I'm not talking about a book, I'm talking about something that somebody wants. Not something that they need, but something that they want. And really, all right so what's a premium? What is that? It's a gift that you give somebody for taking a certain action that you want them to take. Like Russell, you've got a beautiful wife and when you proposed to her, I'm guessing that you had a premium in your offer. Didn't you? Russell: It wasn't me. Yeah. I was the afterthought. Perry: Yeah, it's called a diamond ring. You've got all of us... Got to hock that ring, and you've got to give them the premium because they know they're going to get some old guy that sits in a recliner and farts for the rest of his life. So the big prize ain’t that great. So you got it. But seriously though, I've worked on campaigns for LifeLock and we gave away shredders and built all our campaigns for survival preparedness, and now I've got that hat that I got on, the CEO hat, is my newest premium. And for my CEO journal, CEO 5,000 club. And I can acquire really great business buyers who are very aspirational for 20 bucks to cold traffic. That's a 19.4% front end conversion rate yesterday. It was insane. Russell: Is the offer actually... They had the offer for something else when you're attaching a hat to it. Perry: The offer is the hat in the beginning, and the upsell is a five day CEO challenge that comes with a big framed certificate. I give people awards. I do. I send it to them. If they're good people, I send them a freaking award. I'm not like some people that I know who just, "You fill out the form..." You know what" Russell: That second step is hard. Step one, earn it, step two, ask for it. So I get it. Perry: Yeah right. But anyway, I'm joking. But yeah, the second step is challenging, and because if I didn't have the framed certificate there, which is a very nice premium award, we would probably only get a 15, 20% take rate on the upsell, but instead I get right now in the neighborhood of a 42% up-sell rate on the $47 challenge. And then there's a VIP registration after that, I think it's about 30%. And I think I'll increase that this week, because I didn't have a premium attached to it. I'm going to put another premium that I give them when they buy the VIP for another a hundred bucks. And a good premium, Russell, only has to be something someone wants. It doesn't have to be something they need. For years and years banks gave away toasters when you opened a bank account. The toaster didn't have anything to do with a bank account, but everybody wants a new toaster or a set of steak knives or whatever. You just find something that somebody wants an ideally, if you're using the premium at the front of the funnel, like I am with this one, you want a premium that identifies the market that you're looking for. If you've got a fishing club or a fishing stuff you want to sell, then you need a fishing hat or a fishing t-shirt or a fishing rod. Something that identifies that front end buyer, that low dollar front-end buyer as having a certain aspiration or interest. But I don't think anybody understands the leverage of it. You'll get in the math... So what people do that screws them up in the head. And I know Morrison and I've talked about this. He still ain't done it. Right? They get to think, "Well, I got to ship a thing. That's going to cost 10 bucks." Yeah. But your CPA advertising costs is going to go down by 70. Right? So why would you not do that? But that's okay if nobody ever wants to do it, it's good with me. I like being in this ocean all by myself, right? But seriously, you'll never give away a physical gift, a good one that's thought about, thought through, that will increase your cost of delivery more than it will reduce your cost of acquisition. I've never... It's never happened. Russell: I'm freaking out on my side, because I'm thinking about we have our book funnels all the time, but I was late for the Dotcom Secrets book. If I gave a t-shirt that was like, "I Build Funnels" that came with the Dotcom Secrets book. Right? Perry: Then I'm going to rat out my best partner. So Ryan brought out his book, The Invisible Selling Machine. Remember that? Russell: Yep. Perry: So we sent that to the digital marketer list who love him like a fat kid loves cake, right? And that offer went out and he got a 3.9% conversion on it. And he was so disappointed. We were all disappointed. We put a digital marker "I'm smarter" t-shirt with it, conversion went to 11.1%, on a bundle. So you're talking about a $5 shirt, you know… Russell: 3X the conversion Perry: Well, you can say it increased the version, which it did, but it also reduced the cost of acquisition by three fours. Russell: Yeah. Perry: So whether you're... If you're buying media to it, it's emphatically important. And as we put more and more premiums down funnel, we see the same thing happen where the down funnel sales double and triple, and you just keep increasing the value of the premium as you keep increasing the price of the down-funnel products for sale. I'm into it so much I bought a... I've got a 24,000 square foot warehouse here now, where we make and print and embroider all of our premiums and we do it for some of our other people. But I got so into it that I wanted to be prime on it. So we make all of our own stuff now. It's a big deal. Russell: That's killer. Dude, Perry, thank you for sharing that. That was a big one for me. I'm sure it's awesome for everyone else. Perry: No problem. 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Register for the next LIVE episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I've got something special for you guys for the next three episodes. Some of you guys know we've been recently doing the Marketing Secrets Live show because as much as I love recording podcasts, it's kind of fun when I do the live versions, which means there's different energy people come on and they ask the questions. It's awesome. So recently we did a Marketing Series Live show, and if you want to be on the next one we do, make sure go to Clubhouse with Russell.com, Clubhouse with Russell.com. When you go there, you can subscribe to the Marketing Secrets Live Clubhouse group. And then when I go live, you get notified. It is on the Clubhouse app, but it's fun because it pops up, we can talk, you have to just hangout, I bring a special guest, and then I talk for a while and then we do Q&A at the end. And so some of you guys have had chance to hang out with me and get your live questions answered and so much fun. So if you want to be part of that, all you've got to do is go to Clubhouse with Russell.com, it's free and we record these things live. So the last one we did, it was a little over an hour long. The first section I brought in some of my friends and guests and asked them what their biggest marketing secret was. And these guys dropped gold. Like it was so good. In fact, one of them completely changed how I'm doing one of my funnels because of just one idea. It was amazing. And then after that I talked about some cool things I'm interested in, and then we opened Q&A. So I'm going take that live episode, we're going to break it out over three episodes. And so this first one is going to be where you have a chance to listen to some of my friends coming and sharing their biggest marketing secret. So with that said, I'm going to jump right into the podcast. You have chance to listen in. And like I said, if you want to be on the next one, go to Clubhouse with Russell.com, go sign up. Right now they're kind of sporadic. We'll probably find a date and a time that's consistent, but the format I'm really liking. So it starts off with people coming on, sharing their number one marketing secret, then I share the thing I'm most excited by, and then I open it with Q&A. So make sure you have the live ones. With that said I'm excited to let you guys kind of jump right in here to the last Marketing Secrets Live Show we do. All right everybody, I want to officially welcome you to Marketing Secrets Live Show. I'm so excited to have you all here. This is really fun doing it on Clubhouse. I've got five special guests who have agreed to come on today and share their biggest marketing secret before we dive into the actual podcast episode. And so I'm really excited to have you guys all on for that. In fact, one of them is the dude who actually told me to join Clubhouse back when it first came out. And so, I'll let you see him here in a minute, but I wanted to lead first off with Anthony Morrison. So Anthony is someone who I have known now for... Before he knew me, I guarantee I used to watch him on infomercials. I remember the very first time I saw him, we were at some event and he was sitting at the table with all the cool kids and I was on the table next to him with none of the cool kids, and I was like, "Someday, I'm going to meet that guy, we're going to be friends. It's going to be awesome." And now, I think he's won like 2000 Two Comma Club awards from us. He's one of the people that has been a huge supporter since day one, super grateful for him. He's one of our... In fact, I think he is the top affiliate inside of ClickFunnels right now. And not only top affiliate, but again, if you can see even his profile picture here on Clubhouse, he's won pretty much every award we've gotten four or five or 20 times. So with that said, Anthony Morrison, how are you doing today, bud? Anthony Morrison: What's up, man? What's up? I'm doing good. How about you? Russell: I'm doing awesome. I'm having fun trying to do a podcast live. So this is kind of a cool process. But I know you're short on time, so what I would love is, obviously the podcast is called the Marketing Secret Show, and I would love for you to share whatever your biggest marketing secret is right now inside your businesses having success. And with that, I'll hand it over to you. Anthony: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, look, I've got a few things obviously that I'm working on, and I think trying to pick which one is always my thing, right? Like, "Which one is going to give the most value to the people listening here?" And I think maybe for me, it's probably still kind of going back to... I know a lot of people, Russel, that are following you, that are part of the ClickFunnels community. I mean, most all of them are creating a product, they're creating their own informational product, they want to get it out to the world and they're using funnels to make that happen. And so I'll tell you my most successful funnel. How about that? Would that'd be good? Russell: Yeah, that'd be awesome. Anthony: Okay. My most successful funnel for the past three years, and it's interesting because some of the guys up here with me, I know Perry, Keyala, Kevin, these guys have also been kind of instrumental in giving me tips and strategies and stuff for the last three years that I've implemented in this funnel. But it's a funnel that sells a product for seven bucks. So it's kind of against the grain. I know that we often hear so much about how we always want to sell for more, sell at a higher price, make higher ticket sales. For me, what I did was I kind of went against the grain and I created a $7 product. It's called Partner With Anthony. I don't suggest any of you go and buy it, but you can go look at the sales page and check it out and see how we've set it up. But the cool thing about this is that I started thinking about how Russell set up these funnels, right? And it's with the intent of the minute that somebody hits this page, we want to essentially funnel them, right? Into becoming a buyer. Right? And so what I thought about, Russell, was why do we stop the funnel there? Why can't the education also be a funnel? Why can't we have an educational funnel so that once they buy through your sales funnel, your education also becomes a sales funnel. And so what we did with this product was we said, "Hey look, let's get as many people as we can into our ecosystem by selling something for seven bucks. And then once people get into the education, once they're in this educational platform, let's create the education in a way that kind of is broken down almost like you would do..." I mean look, you do this at Funnel Hacking Live, and I know everybody else that does events, you do this long three-day event. And at the of that event, there's a sale. But all the information in the previous two and a half days was designed to help create the desire for people to buy that thing that's being sold. And so that's what I do inside of the education. The education is designed to create content for purpose. So that's what we really do. And the purpose is to deliver the value and on the promise that we made. So if we teach people, like in the Partner With Anthony program, we're teaching them to become affiliate marketers. We're showing them how to be affiliates, right? So we want to make sure that is up. You're not paying attention to everything you're hearing, because you're also looking for, "What's he going to sell me? What's the price going to be?" All that stuff. But when we transfer ourselves out of that and we put ourselves into the education that we've purchased, we let our guard down a little bit. We quit being so closed off. We quit looking for red flags. We quit looking for, "What's going to cost me this, and what's going to cost me that?" And we really start to consume the information that we've bought. And when you do that, when you have a person in that environment, it's much easier to sell them, right? Because they don't realize they're being sold, you're selling through education. And so that's what we do with this little $7 funnel. We push as many people as we can into this educational sales funnel, if you will. And throughout that education we sell, and a lot of people ask me, "Man, how am I the number one ClickFunnels affiliate?" I don't ever run specific promotions. You don't ever see an ad for me on Facebook that says, "Here, come buy ClickFunnels. It's awesome." It's always sold through education. That is how I've sold all of these ClickFunnels accounts. I'm selling through education, not necessarily through my sales funnel. And so Partner With Anthony is one of those things that allows me to sell ClickFunnels through my education. So I would say one of the things you ought to start looking at is don't stop your sales funnel at the end of the sales funnel. Just transfer that selling into your education and start creating this educational sales funnel, so that once somebody comes through, now you continue to sell through education. That funnel, man, is doing seven figures a month for our company at a $7 price point. It's actually more successful than pretty much any funnel I've ever run. And it's been successful on every platform. We find high ticket, low ticket, all these, they work in different platforms. I mean, we're able to have positive return on investment from Facebook, from YouTube ads, from YouTube Organic and pretty much anywhere and everywhere we promote it. So maybe just don't always look at the highest ticket item. If you really want to create a company and a business that's going to thrive and going to continue to grow, in my opinion anyway, you need buyer velocity. You need a lot of buyers. You need a lot of people coming into your ecosystem so that they're introduced not only to your brand, but also all of your products, and this little $7 funnel is how we're making it happen. Russell: That is awesome. I think it's interesting too, especially the way you do it because the education is not free, it's $7, but then inside of education, you recommending the tools and the things like that. And so I think some people may be nervous like, "Oh, well, what if they feel like I'm upselling them on the next info product?" Or whatever. But it's like, you're not only selling the info, but you're selling the tools that you need to implement the thing that they just learned. Right? Which I think is, it's fascinating to think Anthony: Think about in college, right? This always amazes me. So people always say, "Well, wait a minute, people are going to get mad when you sell them something." Well, I know people... Look, we all know this, if I go to your website, Russell and I click buy, and then right after I clicked buy and I put in my information, and then you have a little video that pops up and says, "But wait, you can upgrade and get all this better stuff." People are like, "Oh man, I'm so mad. Why didn't you just tell me everything upfront?" Right? We hear that, people don't love upsells. But here's what's interesting, when the upsell is within the education like this, and it's not positioned necessarily as an upsell, but more so as either an essential tool or an added benefit, something that can help you grow within this course, people don't feel the same way about it. And if you think about it, it's a lot like college, you pay all this money to go to college, the minute you sit down in a desk, they give you a list of all the books you've got to go buy and they charge you thousands of dollars for these books that are 20 years old. And then they say, "Hey, you've got to have a specific calculator, and you've got to..." And people go and buy all those things, and they're not mad at the college. They don't go screaming and hollering at the college saying, "You didn't tell me I needed a calculator and these books." You know what I'm saying? So, once it's something that you're using I guess to consume and implement the education that you've purchased, I think that that disdain for the upsells kind of fades a little bit and it becomes more of like, "Hey, I'm going to do this because I've already bought into this. So now I need to get all the tools, resources, and help that I can to make this work." Russell: Very cool. Well, awesome, man. I appreciate it, that's an awesome tip. We could teach the whole three-day course on that concept alone, but hopefully everyone who's listening like "There's a nugget, there's a marketing secret." That you guys can all look at as like, "How do I build a front education system that sends people to my other products and services or the ones I affiliate for, and then selling it for $7?" You can get as many people in as possible. It's awesome. So, thanks, man. I appreciate you sharing that marketing secret. Anthony: Absolutely man. Russell: Very cool. All right, with that said, we'll move on to our next guest. We've got five total here. So let me see, number two. Let's see. How about we bring on Kevin David. So Kevin, I actually met Kevin for the very first time at Funnel Hacking Live when he was on stage getting a Two Comma Club award. And then I met him the next year getting a Two Comma Club X award. And anyway, someone who's been just killing it. He's got a huge YouTube channel. He's got a bunch of other stuff, won a whole bunch of awards from us, dream car winner, a bunch of other things. With that said, Kevin, how are you doing today? Kevin David: Hey, what's up Russell? I just want to take a minute to appreciate Anthony's…. Okay. Awesome. I just said I wanted to appreciate Anthony's profile picture. For people who are on the podcast not seeing it, he's literally standing in front of every award that ClickFunnels has ever created. And it's just an epic picture. So I should repost that somewhere. But yeah, no, it's funny. I told the story a lot of times, Russell that... The first and only two times we've ever met in person were getting in to Comma Club and then me on stage telling you I'll be back next year for the eight figure award. And I actually forgot to apply for the 50,000,000 one. But maybe I'll get around to it this year. Russell: You better hurry. We're 105 days away from Funnel Hacking Live. So you've got a little time to get it in, but you've got to hurry. Kevin: Absolutely. Russell: Very cool. All right. So with that said, I'd love if you want to share your number one marketing secret with anyone who's listening right now. Be awesome. Kevin: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'm going to give two, and I'm kind of going to assume that your audience is a little bit more advanced, right? For a lot of the introductory stuff, people can find it on YouTube and blogs and things like that, but kind of the stuff that's much more difficult to find is kind of the more advanced stuff that happens more so for the kind of marketers that are really doing things at a large level, spending millions of dollars and things like that. And so, I've talked to Anthony and many people about this, and a lot of the guys kind of coordinate and figure out what works and what doesn't. For me, I'm going to give two simple ones that are really immediately implementable. So on YouTube, you can actually do a variety of different types of targeting, right? You can do keywords, you can do in-markets, topics, and target specific things like that. A lot of people try to get super over complicated and put these huge thousand keyword lists into YouTube to target them. But what I've found is you can actually target people on YouTube from what they've searched on Google in the last seven days. And that's really, really powerful because in-stream marketing on YouTube is actually much cheaper than Google keyword marketing. And so instead of trying to get all fancy and do these big thousand keyword long tail lists, what we've found is literally just uploading a single keyword, one keyword literally, into those in-markets, excuse me, into those in-stream segments actually works extremely well. So for example, we might upload an entire audience as a one keyword list just for the word money. Another example is we've proven and found that the keyword "business business business", literally that word three times is actually 20X profitable for us. And it has been for years for whatever reason. And we found that just by putting the word "business" as a broad match keyword campaign, and then Google actually auto-populates multiple variants of that based on "business" and then adding "business business" three different times, even though that seems ridiculous, that particular keyword, "business business business", has made us tens of thousands of dollars over the course of however long we've been doing things. The second one that I'll give is kind of a little strategy for people that kind of run Typeform Funnels, or any type of funnels that have purchases. What we've found is instead of having just a single "Thank you" page, we actually differ… find people similar to those higher qualified leads, which just makes everything so much more profitable and so much more successful on paid media. Russell: Dude, that's awesome. Very cool. I lost some audio on my side for a second, but I got most of it though. That was awesome. Hopefully I don't... I think it was something on my phone, so I think everyone's got it. So very, very cool. Anything else you want to share with people before we move on? Kevin: I mean, not really. I just... Every time we get to talk, Russell, it's always an honor. You really helped me a lot. And so the people listening to Russell's podcast, you guys are listening to one of the best, if not the GOAT in marketing. So I just appreciate every time we get to connect brother. Russell: Very cool, man. I appreciate you. Well hopefully some day we'll hang out in real besides just on stage, but we'll see you in a couple of months on getting the next awards. Thanks so much, man. I appreciate you coming on. Kevin: Absolutely. Russell: Very cool. Hey Yhennifer, before we go onto the next guest, do you have any announcements that you want to make sure that... I'm sure I'm forgetting some of the things I'm supposed to be doing? So as a newbie Clubhouser, let me make sure I'm doing this right. Yhennifer: All right. Awesome. We're going to reset the room really quickly here. I just want to send a reminder to everyone that we're recording for the Marketing Secrets podcast. Also, you see that little plus sign at the bottom? Ping your friends, add some people into this room that you feel will get tons of value from this podcast episode. And one more thing, make sure that you click on that green little house, Marketing Secrets Live on the top of this room and follow the club for more episodes. Take it away, Russell. Russell: Awesome. Thank you, Yhennifer. Okay, our next guest, I'm excited to bring on. The next guest is someone who literally... I'm reading through the bio here. The first year of using ClickFunnels at over eight figures, multiple eight figures actually very first year, which is crazy, has gone on to do a whole bunch more cents then, and excited to bring our next guest. Who is Keyala. How are you doing man? Keyala: Whoa, buddy. We've never even met and you said my name right. Kudos to you my brother. Russell: I'm not going to lie, I'm a little nervous. I was making sure I got it correct. So I nailed huh? Keyala: You know that you did a good job, and first I just want to thank you for having me out. You have some all-stars on the stage and you even invited Perry too. Russell: Shots fired. Keyala: Shots fired. Yes. Perry Belcher: Remember, I know where you live. Keyala: That's a true story. All right. So marketing tip, Russell. I'm going to give something that's a little advanced, I think. Russell: Okay. Keyala: So the question most often, right? Is so when we... I started out, to give you some history, I started out as an affiliate marketer. And at the end of 2016, the last week of November, 2016, I launched our courses and coaching business, teaching people affiliate marketing, and within four months we got to seven figures a month. Over the next year and a half or so I had 80 million views on my top performing YouTube ad. So kind of the question that I get most often is how did I ramp up growth that fast? And it really comes down to this concept, which is I think simple but often overlooked. And that concept is knowing your numbers. So for me, the game of scaling is just a game of mathematics. So what do I mean by that? So knowing my numbers means that I knew that the reason that I was able to scale so quickly is because I knew what every customer was worth. So I was running a funnel, a webinar funnel, where somebody could buy a low ticket sub $100 front end, and when they bought that low ticket sub $100 front end, they would then qualify to speak to my sales team. My sales team would then interview them. If they were a fit, we'd make a 10K offer. Well, I knew every time I got somebody to spend $99 on our front end product, I ultimately would make a thousand dollars within about 60 days, because I just followed the numbers as we were scaling up the campaigns. Once I knew what that customer was going to be worth to me in 90, sorry, 60 days, I was then able to go into... And this is an advanced strategy, but negative customer acquisition. So a lot of marketers that I've talked to are trying to break even on day zero or day one. Right? Russell: Yeah. Keyala: And in contrast, I was spending sometimes as much as $500 acquiring a $99 customer. So why is that significant? It's significant because whoever can spend the most in the marketplace on customer acquisition is going to own that marketplace. So engineering my YouTube views on my YouTube ads was the simple fact that I was willing to, because I knew my numbers so well, I was willing to spend more than my competitors were willing to spend. And we have a method in our media buying process we call The Bully Method, which I actually took the term from Tim Burg, where we would go in and we would just outbid everybody else who was... So we would manually bid an outbid everybody else in our space. So we would take what we're paying for a CPM, cost per thousand impressions, and we would 10X that amount just to force our ads into the feed, because I knew that I could outspend all of my competitors, right? So I was able to engineer through that process, through knowing my numbers, I was able to engineer that growth, and that's how we were able to hit those seven figures per month within just four months of launching. Russell: That's awesome. Keyala: And when you know your numbers, it really gives you a level of freedom. So as an example, when I sat down... February of 2017, I sat down with my team. We were looking at what the numbers were trending for over the past 90 days of running ads. And I said, "Listen, so next month, we're going to hit a million dollars a month. And here's how we're going to do it." And I broke it down for them. I said "In order for us to hit a million dollars next month, we need to have this many appointments on the calendar for our sales team. In order for us to get that many appointments on the calendar, we need to have this many front end buyers." Not every front end buyer would book an appointment on the calendar. I knew exactly what the ratio was. "In order for us to have that many front end buyers, we need to get this many people registered for the webinar." Because I knew exactly what percentage of registrants actually converted to a front end buyer. And then I said, "In order for us to be profitable on all of that, we can't pay more than 12..." It was roughly about $12.50, somewhere in that ballpark, per registrant. "So, marketing team, can we do that? How do we engineer so that we're driving up X amount of registrations a day, at or below $12.50 so that we can hit this seven figure, this million dollar mark, the following month in March?" And we ended up hitting it about three weeks into the month. So oftentimes when I'm talking with marketers at masterminds or at events, they'll be asking about how to grow their business, how to scale their business. And a lot of it had to be... To be mean, it's just a lot of pin the debt... Pin the tail on the donkey tactics, right? They're kind of running blind, because I'll start asking, "Well, what does every customer that clicks the buy button, what are they worth?" "Well, I don't know." "Oh, what does every person that speaks to your sales team worth?" "I don't know." Or they'll say things like, "Well, the average customer... Our most common product is this product." And I'll say, "Well, that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking you the moment that somebody gets to your order page and submits that credit card information, ultimately, what does that customer worth to you?" And if they don't know, then they are, to a degree, running blind, right? They're trying to scale their business without having the metrics to know how to scale it. And therefore, playing pin the tail on the donkey. The good news is I love math, so it works out really well. But if you don't, there's data analysts out there that you can hire that will come in and run that data for you and help you figure these numbers out, which will give you a game plan that you can follow. It's a treasure map to the promise land, so to speak. So that would be my number one tactic. Russell: That's awesome, man. I appreciate. I remember the very first event I ever went to 19 years ago, I heard Mike Litman speak and he said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And when he said that it made no sense to me, but I remember hearing that and I was like, "Oh crap, am I an amateur?" I literally was focusing on the front end. And it was a couple of years later as I kept learning this game where I started to kind of realize what you're talking about now, which is like, "Okay, here's the funnel. Here's the pieces. What's the profit at each step?" And a hundred percent, since we were able to figure those things out and we knew, "Oh, we can spend, again, $70, $80 to sell a free book, or to give away a free plus shipping." Or whatever it was, because we knew to value everything. And then that's when we started scaling as well. So I think that's awesome. I appreciate you sharing that for sure. Very cool. This is fun. I'm actually really enjoying this. I'm getting good ideas on my side. If you guys like it as well, let us know. Okay. We've got one more guest speaker. Before we do, I'm going to pass back over to Yhennifer to make sure that we've got the room set up for everything before we move on to Perry Belcher. Yhennifer: So I'm excited to have all you guys here. Thank you for being in this room. Just again, another reminder we are recording here for the Marketing Secrets podcast. Make sure that you click on that little green house at the top to follow the club so that you can get notifications when Russell goes live again, we're planning to do many, many more of these. And also ping, some friends in the room, invite some people so they can come in here and join us for this awesome conversation. Back to you, Russell. Russell: Awesome, thank you so much. All right, so my last special guest today before we transition to full podcast, is someone who I have been a friend and an admirer of for, man, as long as I think of, 10, 15 years. He's one of the co-founders of Digital Marketer and about a million other things. Probably the greatest storyteller I've ever met. One of my favorite people to hear speak and teach and listen. And he's the person who told me to get on Clubhouse initially. So all of those people, if you put them all together is Perry Belcher. So Perry, thanks for jumping on today, man. I appreciate you. Perry: All right, man. Well, let me start off by griping a little bit. So number one, with the exception of Kevin, who's a really nice guy, I went to his place. I ate good food, he was nice to me. I don't really like anybody else on this whole panel. Morrison in front of his fancy schmancy wall of awards. And I've got a bone to pick with you, Russell. How much stuff have I sold on ClickFunnels? You sent me nothing. I got nothing. I get no respect here. I got stuff on the wall from ClickBank. I got stuff on the wall from YouTube. I got stuff on a wall from everybody. I got nothing from ClickFunnels. I'll tell you that. I get no respect. Russell: Have you filled out the form that says, "I apply...?" Perry: Whatever. Forms shcmorms, whatever. Keyala know-it-all, talks all the time. These guys, I don't know where you find them. Russell: Well with that intro, man I... Perry: What can I do for you? Can you get me to help you pick better panelists next time? I'll tell you… Russell: That would actually be super helpful. Perry: These guys, I don't know. Not all of these guys obviously. But I do think we ought to make Morrison box up half of those things and send them to me. It's only fair. Russell: It's only fair. Anthony: They can't get 18 wheelers down my street. So can I send you a 10th of them? Russell: Oh, that's awesome. Well, Perry, you've done pretty much everything in this business from physical products to info products, to coaching, to flying to china... Everything I think people could do to make money, I think you've done it three or four times. I'm curious, right now through the lens, what would be your biggest marketing secret you could share to people right now today? Perry: Actually I was thinking about this because when I talked to, I think it was Miles the other day, he kind of gave me a prompt what the question was going to be. Really two things, and one's extensive, and that's learning to tell a really good story. I think people really don't... Most people have no clue how to tell a story about themselves, their company or their products, or what they do. And I think I've been really good at that. I kind of had a natural talent for, but I've gotten really, really good at over years. And I think that's been a big help for me. And the trick or the cheat on top of that, if you're not good at it or if you are, it's even better, is something that almost nobody does but me. And that's physical premiums. I use physical premiums in every marketing campaign that I have, and Morrison and I were talking the other day, I kind of know some of his numbers, but I got a $7 offer like his now, and my CPA yesterday was $22 because I gave away a $5 hat, you know? And his is I think considerably more than that I'm guessing. Anthony, is that still true? Anthony: Oh yeah. It's definitely a lot more. Perry: Yeah. I just love physical premiums and I use them all the way through the funnel. I start with a physical premium. When I go to the upsell, I add another premium and go to the next step sell, add another premium. And people just really don't understand the leverage that a physical premium gives you. I'm not talking about a book, I'm talking about something that somebody wants. Not something that they need, but something that they want. And really, all right so what's a premium? What is that? It's a gift that you give somebody for taking a certain action that you want them to take. Like Russell, you've got a beautiful wife and when you proposed to her, I'm guessing that you had a premium in your offer. Didn't you? Russell: It wasn't me. Yeah. I was the afterthought. Perry: Yeah, it's called a diamond ring. You've got all of us... Got to hock that ring, and you've got to give them the premium because they know they're going to get some old guy that sits in a recliner and farts for the rest of his life. So the big prize ain’t that great. So you got it. But seriously though, I've worked on campaigns for LifeLock and we gave away shredders and built all our campaigns for survival preparedness, and now I've got that hat that I got on, the CEO hat, is my newest premium. And for my CEO journal, CEO 5,000 club. And I can acquire really great business buyers who are very aspirational for 20 bucks to cold traffic. That's a 19.4% front end conversion rate yesterday. It was insane. Russell: Is the offer actually... They had the offer for something else when you're attaching a hat to it. Perry: The offer is the hat in the beginning, and the upsell is a five day CEO challenge that comes with a big framed certificate. I give people awards. I do. I send it to them. If they're good people, I send them a freaking award. I'm not like some people that I know who just, "You fill out the form..." You know what" Russell: That second step is hard. Step one, earn it, step two, ask for it. So I get it. Perry: Yeah right. But anyway, I'm joking. But yeah, the second step is challenging, and because if I didn't have the framed certificate there, which is a very nice premium award, we would probably only get a 15, 20% take rate on the upsell, but instead I get right now in the neighborhood of a 42% up-sell rate on the $47 challenge. And then there's a VIP registration after that, I think it's about 30%. And I think I'll increase that this week, because I didn't have a premium attached to it. I'm going to put another premium that I give them when they buy the VIP for another a hundred bucks. And a good premium, Russell, only has to be something someone wants. It doesn't have to be something they need. For years and years banks gave away toasters when you opened a bank account. The toaster didn't have anything to do with a bank account, but everybody wants a new toaster or a set of steak knives or whatever. You just find something that somebody wants an ideally, if you're using the premium at the front of the funnel, like I am with this one, you want a premium that identifies the market that you're looking for. If you've got a fishing club or a fishing stuff you want to sell, then you need a fishing hat or a fishing t-shirt or a fishing rod. Something that identifies that front end buyer, that low dollar front-end buyer as having a certain aspiration or interest. But I don't think anybody understands the leverage of it. You'll get in the math... So what people do that screws them up in the head. And I know Morrison and I've talked about this. He still ain't done it. Right? They get to think, "Well, I got to ship a thing. That's going to cost 10 bucks." Yeah. But your CPA advertising costs is going to go down by 70. Right? So why would you not do that? But that's okay if nobody ever wants to do it, it's good with me. I like being in this ocean all by myself, right? But seriously, you'll never give away a physical gift, a good one that's thought about, thought through, that will increase your cost of delivery more than it will reduce your cost of acquisition. I've never... It's never happened. Russell: I'm freaking out on my side, because I'm thinking about we have our book funnels all the time, but I was late for the Dotcom Secrets book. If I gave a t-shirt that was like, "I Build Funnels" that came with the Dotcom Secrets book. Right? Perry: Then I'm going to rat out my best partner. So Ryan brought out his book, The Invisible Selling Machine. Remember that? Russell: Yep. Perry: So we sent that to the digital marketer list who love him like a fat kid loves cake, right? And that offer went out and he got a 3.9% conversion on it. And he was so disappointed. We were all disappointed. We put a digital marker "I'm smarter" t-shirt with it, conversion went to 11.1%, on a bundle. So you're talking about a $5 shirt, you know… Russell: 3X the conversion Perry: Well, you can say it increased the version, which it did, but it also reduced the cost of acquisition by three fours. Russell: Yeah. Perry: So whether you're... If you're buying media to it, it's emphatically important. And as we put more and more premiums down funnel, we see the same thing happen where the down funnel sales double and triple, and you just keep increasing the value of the premium as you keep increasing the price of the down-funnel products for sale. I'm into it so much I bought a... I've got a 24,000 square foot warehouse here now, where we make and print and embroider all of our premiums and we do it for some of our other people. But I got so into it that I wanted to be prime on it. So we make all of our own stuff now. It's a big deal. Russell: That's killer. Dude, Perry, thank you for sharing that. That was a big one for me. I'm sure it's awesome for everyone else. Perry: No problem. 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Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I've got something special for you guys for the next three episodes. Some of you guys know we've been recently doing the Marketing Secrets Live show because as much as I love recording podcasts, it's kind of fun when I do the live versions, which means there's different energy people come on and they ask the questions. It's awesome.

So recently we did a Marketing Series Live show, and if you want to be on the next one we do, make sure go to Clubhouse with Russell.com, Clubhouse with Russell.com. When you go there, you can subscribe to the Marketing Secrets Live Clubhouse group. And then when I go live, you get notified. It is on the Clubhouse app, but it's fun because it pops up, we can talk, you have to just hangout, I bring a special guest, and then I talk for a while and then we do Q&A at the end. And so some of you guys have had chance to hang out with me and get your live questions answered and so much fun. So if you want to be part of that, all you've got to do is go to Clubhouse with Russell.com, it's free and we record these things live.

So the last one we did, it was a little over an hour long. The first section I brought in some of my friends and guests and asked them what their biggest marketing secret was. And these guys dropped gold. Like it was so good. In fact, one of them completely changed how I'm doing one of my funnels because of just one idea. It was amazing. And then after that I talked about some cool things I'm interested in, and then we opened Q&A.

So I'm going take that live episode, we're going to break it out over three episodes. And so this first one is going to be where you have a chance to listen to some of my friends coming and sharing their biggest marketing secret. So with that said, I'm going to jump right into the podcast. You have chance to listen in. And like I said, if you want to be on the next one, go to Clubhouse with Russell.com, go sign up. Right now they're kind of sporadic. We'll probably find a date and a time that's consistent, but the format I'm really liking. So it starts off with people coming on, sharing their number one marketing secret, then I share the thing I'm most excited by, and then I open it with Q&A. So make sure you have the live ones. With that said I'm excited to let you guys kind of jump right in here to the last Marketing Secrets Live Show we do.

All right everybody, I want to officially welcome you to Marketing Secrets Live Show. I'm so excited to have you all here. This is really fun doing it on Clubhouse. I've got five special guests who have agreed to come on today and share their biggest marketing secret before we dive into the actual podcast episode. And so I'm really excited to have you guys all on for that. In fact, one of them is the dude who actually told me to join Clubhouse back when it first came out. And so, I'll let you see him here in a minute, but I wanted to lead first off with Anthony Morrison. So Anthony is someone who I have known now for... Before he knew me, I guarantee I used to watch him on infomercials. I remember the very first time I saw him, we were at some event and he was sitting at the table with all the cool kids and I was on the table next to him with none of the cool kids, and I was like, "Someday, I'm going to meet that guy, we're going to be friends. It's going to be awesome."

And now, I think he's won like 2000 Two Comma Club awards from us. He's one of the people that has been a huge supporter since day one, super grateful for him. He's one of our... In fact, I think he is the top affiliate inside of ClickFunnels right now. And not only top affiliate, but again, if you can see even his profile picture here on Clubhouse, he's won pretty much every award we've gotten four or five or 20 times. So with that said, Anthony Morrison, how are you doing today, bud?

Anthony Morrison: What's up, man? What's up? I'm doing good. How about you?

Russell: I'm doing awesome. I'm having fun trying to do a podcast live. So this is kind of a cool process. But I know you're short on time, so what I would love is, obviously the podcast is called the Marketing Secret Show, and I would love for you to share whatever your biggest marketing secret is right now inside your businesses having success. And with that, I'll hand it over to you.

Anthony: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, look, I've got a few things obviously that I'm working on, and I think trying to pick which one is always my thing, right? Like, "Which one is going to give the most value to the people listening here?" And I think maybe for me, it's probably still kind of going back to... I know a lot of people, Russel, that are following you, that are part of the ClickFunnels community. I mean, most all of them are creating a product, they're creating their own informational product, they want to get it out to the world and they're using funnels to make that happen. And so I'll tell you my most successful funnel. How about that? Would that'd be good?

Russell: Yeah, that'd be awesome.

Anthony: Okay. My most successful funnel for the past three years, and it's interesting because some of the guys up here with me, I know Perry, Keyala, Kevin, these guys have also been kind of instrumental in giving me tips and strategies and stuff for the last three years that I've implemented in this funnel. But it's a funnel that sells a product for seven bucks. So it's kind of against the grain. I know that we often hear so much about how we always want to sell for more, sell at a higher price, make higher ticket sales. For me, what I did was I kind of went against the grain and I created a $7 product. It's called Partner With Anthony. I don't suggest any of you go and buy it, but you can go look at the sales page and check it out and see how we've set it up.

But the cool thing about this is that I started thinking about how Russell set up these funnels, right? And it's with the intent of the minute that somebody hits this page, we want to essentially funnel them, right? Into becoming a buyer. Right?

And so what I thought about, Russell, was why do we stop the funnel there? Why can't the education also be a funnel? Why can't we have an educational funnel so that once they buy through your sales funnel, your education also becomes a sales funnel. And so what we did with this product was we said, "Hey look, let's get as many people as we can into our ecosystem by selling something for seven bucks. And then once people get into the education, once they're in this educational platform, let's create the education in a way that kind of is broken down almost like you would do..." I mean look, you do this at Funnel Hacking Live, and I know everybody else that does events, you do this long three-day event. And at the of that event, there's a sale. But all the information in the previous two and a half days was designed to help create the desire for people to buy that thing that's being sold.

And so that's what I do inside of the education. The education is designed to create content for purpose. So that's what we really do. And the purpose is to deliver the value and on the promise that we made. So if we teach people, like in the Partner With Anthony program, we're teaching them to become affiliate marketers. We're showing them how to be affiliates, right? So we want to make sure that is up.

You're not paying attention to everything you're hearing, because you're also looking for, "What's he going to sell me? What's the price going to be?" All that stuff. But when we transfer ourselves out of that and we put ourselves into the education that we've purchased, we let our guard down a little bit. We quit being so closed off. We quit looking for red flags. We quit looking for, "What's going to cost me this, and what's going to cost me that?" And we really start to consume the information that we've bought. And when you do that, when you have a person in that environment, it's much easier to sell them, right? Because they don't realize they're being sold, you're selling through education. And so that's what we do with this little $7 funnel. We push as many people as we can into this educational sales funnel, if you will.

And throughout that education we sell, and a lot of people ask me, "Man, how am I the number one ClickFunnels affiliate?" I don't ever run specific promotions. You don't ever see an ad for me on Facebook that says, "Here, come buy ClickFunnels. It's awesome." It's always sold through education. That is how I've sold all of these ClickFunnels accounts. I'm selling through education, not necessarily through my sales funnel. And so Partner With Anthony is one of those things that allows me to sell ClickFunnels through my education.

So I would say one of the things you ought to start looking at is don't stop your sales funnel at the end of the sales funnel. Just transfer that selling into your education and start creating this educational sales funnel, so that once somebody comes through, now you continue to sell through education. That funnel, man, is doing seven figures a month for our company at a $7 price point. It's actually more successful than pretty much any funnel I've ever run. And it's been successful on every platform. We find high ticket, low ticket, all these, they work in different platforms. I mean, we're able to have positive return on investment from Facebook, from YouTube ads, from YouTube Organic and pretty much anywhere and everywhere we promote it.

So maybe just don't always look at the highest ticket item. If you really want to create a company and a business that's going to thrive and going to continue to grow, in my opinion anyway, you need buyer velocity. You need a lot of buyers. You need a lot of people coming into your ecosystem so that they're introduced not only to your brand, but also all of your products, and this little $7 funnel is how we're making it happen.

Russell: That is awesome. I think it's interesting too, especially the way you do it because the education is not free, it's $7, but then inside of education, you recommending the tools and the things like that. And so I think some people may be nervous like, "Oh, well, what if they feel like I'm upselling them on the next info product?" Or whatever. But it's like, you're not only selling the info, but you're selling the tools that you need to implement the thing that they just learned. Right? Which I think is, it's fascinating to think

Anthony: Think about in college, right? This always amazes me. So people always say, "Well, wait a minute, people are going to get mad when you sell them something." Well, I know people... Look, we all know this, if I go to your website, Russell and I click buy, and then right after I clicked buy and I put in my information, and then you have a little video that pops up and says, "But wait, you can upgrade and get all this better stuff." People are like, "Oh man, I'm so mad. Why didn't you just tell me everything upfront?" Right? We hear that, people don't love upsells. But here's what's interesting, when the upsell is within the education like this, and it's not positioned necessarily as an upsell, but more so as either an essential tool or an added benefit, something that can help you grow within this course, people don't feel the same way about it.

And if you think about it, it's a lot like college, you pay all this money to go to college, the minute you sit down in a desk, they give you a list of all the books you've got to go buy and they charge you thousands of dollars for these books that are 20 years old. And then they say, "Hey, you've got to have a specific calculator, and you've got to..." And people go and buy all those things, and they're not mad at the college. They don't go screaming and hollering at the college saying, "You didn't tell me I needed a calculator and these books." You know what I'm saying?

So, once it's something that you're using I guess to consume and implement the education that you've purchased, I think that that disdain for the upsells kind of fades a little bit and it becomes more of like, "Hey, I'm going to do this because I've already bought into this. So now I need to get all the tools, resources, and help that I can to make this work."

Russell: Very cool. Well, awesome, man. I appreciate it, that's an awesome tip. We could teach the whole three-day course on that concept alone, but hopefully everyone who's listening like "There's a nugget, there's a marketing secret." That you guys can all look at as like, "How do I build a front education system that sends people to my other products and services or the ones I affiliate for, and then selling it for $7?" You can get as many people in as possible. It's awesome. So, thanks, man. I appreciate you sharing that marketing secret.

Anthony: Absolutely man.

Russell: Very cool. All right, with that said, we'll move on to our next guest. We've got five total here. So let me see, number two. Let's see. How about we bring on Kevin David. So Kevin, I actually met Kevin for the very first time at Funnel Hacking Live when he was on stage getting a Two Comma Club award. And then I met him the next year getting a Two Comma Club X award. And anyway, someone who's been just killing it. He's got a huge YouTube channel. He's got a bunch of other stuff, won a whole bunch of awards from us, dream car winner, a bunch of other things. With that said, Kevin, how are you doing today?

Kevin David: Hey, what's up Russell? I just want to take a minute to appreciate Anthony's…. Okay. Awesome. I just said I wanted to appreciate Anthony's profile picture. For people who are on the podcast not seeing it, he's literally standing in front of every award that ClickFunnels has ever created. And it's just an epic picture. So I should repost that somewhere.

But yeah, no, it's funny. I told the story a lot of times, Russell that... The first and only two times we've ever met in person were getting in to Comma Club and then me on stage telling you I'll be back next year for the eight figure award. And I actually forgot to apply for the 50,000,000 one. But maybe I'll get around to it this year.

Russell: You better hurry. We're 105 days away from Funnel Hacking Live. So you've got a little time to get it in, but you've got to hurry.

Kevin: Absolutely.

Russell: Very cool. All right. So with that said, I'd love if you want to share your number one marketing secret with anyone who's listening right now. Be awesome.

Kevin: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'm going to give two, and I'm kind of going to assume that your audience is a little bit more advanced, right? For a lot of the introductory stuff, people can find it on YouTube and blogs and things like that, but kind of the stuff that's much more difficult to find is kind of the more advanced stuff that happens more so for the kind of marketers that are really doing things at a large level, spending millions of dollars and things like that. And so, I've talked to Anthony and many people about this, and a lot of the guys kind of coordinate and figure out what works and what doesn't. For me, I'm going to give two simple ones that are really immediately implementable.

So on YouTube, you can actually do a variety of different types of targeting, right? You can do keywords, you can do in-markets, topics, and target specific things like that. A lot of people try to get super over complicated and put these huge thousand keyword lists into YouTube to target them. But what I've found is you can actually target people on YouTube from what they've searched on Google in the last seven days. And that's really, really powerful because in-stream marketing on YouTube is actually much cheaper than Google keyword marketing. And so instead of trying to get all fancy and do these big thousand keyword long tail lists, what we've found is literally just uploading a single keyword, one keyword literally, into those in-markets, excuse me, into those in-stream segments actually works extremely well. So for example, we might upload an entire audience as a one keyword list just for the word money.

Another example is we've proven and found that the keyword "business business business", literally that word three times is actually 20X profitable for us. And it has been for years for whatever reason. And we found that just by putting the word "business" as a broad match keyword campaign, and then Google actually auto-populates multiple variants of that based on "business" and then adding "business business" three different times, even though that seems ridiculous, that particular keyword, "business business business", has made us tens of thousands of dollars over the course of however long we've been doing things.

The second one that I'll give is kind of a little strategy for people that kind of run Typeform Funnels, or any type of funnels that have purchases. What we've found is instead of having just a single "Thank you" page, we actually differ… find people similar to those higher qualified leads, which just makes everything so much more profitable and so much more successful on paid media.

Russell: Dude, that's awesome. Very cool. I lost some audio on my side for a second, but I got most of it though. That was awesome. Hopefully I don't... I think it was something on my phone, so I think everyone's got it. So very, very cool. Anything else you want to share with people before we move on?

Kevin: I mean, not really. I just... Every time we get to talk, Russell, it's always an honor. You really helped me a lot. And so the people listening to Russell's podcast, you guys are listening to one of the best, if not the GOAT in marketing. So I just appreciate every time we get to connect brother.

Russell: Very cool, man. I appreciate you. Well hopefully some day we'll hang out in real besides just on stage, but we'll see you in a couple of months on getting the next awards. Thanks so much, man. I appreciate you coming on.

Kevin: Absolutely.

Russell: Very cool. Hey Yhennifer, before we go onto the next guest, do you have any announcements that you want to make sure that... I'm sure I'm forgetting some of the things I'm supposed to be doing? So as a newbie Clubhouser, let me make sure I'm doing this right.

Yhennifer: All right. Awesome. We're going to reset the room really quickly here. I just want to send a reminder to everyone that we're recording for the Marketing Secrets podcast. Also, you see that little plus sign at the bottom? Ping your friends, add some people into this room that you feel will get tons of value from this podcast episode. And one more thing, make sure that you click on that green little house, Marketing Secrets Live on the top of this room and follow the club for more episodes. Take it away, Russell.

Russell: Awesome. Thank you, Yhennifer. Okay, our next guest, I'm excited to bring on. The next guest is someone who literally... I'm reading through the bio here. The first year of using ClickFunnels at over eight figures, multiple eight figures actually very first year, which is crazy, has gone on to do a whole bunch more cents then, and excited to bring our next guest. Who is Keyala. How are you doing man?

Keyala: Whoa, buddy. We've never even met and you said my name right. Kudos to you my brother.

Russell: I'm not going to lie, I'm a little nervous. I was making sure I got it correct. So I nailed huh?

Keyala: You know that you did a good job, and first I just want to thank you for having me out. You have some all-stars on the stage and you even invited Perry too.

Russell: Shots fired.

Keyala: Shots fired. Yes.

Perry Belcher: Remember, I know where you live.

Keyala: That's a true story. All right. So marketing tip, Russell. I'm going to give something that's a little advanced, I think.

Russell: Okay.

Keyala: So the question most often, right? Is so when we... I started out, to give you some history, I started out as an affiliate marketer. And at the end of 2016, the last week of November, 2016, I launched our courses and coaching business, teaching people affiliate marketing, and within four months we got to seven figures a month. Over the next year and a half or so I had 80 million views on my top performing YouTube ad. So kind of the question that I get most often is how did I ramp up growth that fast? And it really comes down to this concept, which is I think simple but often overlooked. And that concept is knowing your numbers.

So for me, the game of scaling is just a game of mathematics. So what do I mean by that? So knowing my numbers means that I knew that the reason that I was able to scale so quickly is because I knew what every customer was worth. So I was running a funnel, a webinar funnel, where somebody could buy a low ticket sub $100 front end, and when they bought that low ticket sub $100 front end, they would then qualify to speak to my sales team. My sales team would then interview them. If they were a fit, we'd make a 10K offer. Well, I knew every time I got somebody to spend $99 on our front end product, I ultimately would make a thousand dollars within about 60 days, because I just followed the numbers as we were scaling up the campaigns.

Once I knew what that customer was going to be worth to me in 90, sorry, 60 days, I was then able to go into... And this is an advanced strategy, but negative customer acquisition. So a lot of marketers that I've talked to are trying to break even on day zero or day one. Right?

Russell: Yeah.

Keyala: And in contrast, I was spending sometimes as much as $500 acquiring a $99 customer. So why is that significant? It's significant because whoever can spend the most in the marketplace on customer acquisition is going to own that marketplace. So engineering my YouTube views on my YouTube ads was the simple fact that I was willing to, because I knew my numbers so well, I was willing to spend more than my competitors were willing to spend. And we have a method in our media buying process we call The Bully Method, which I actually took the term from Tim Burg, where we would go in and we would just outbid everybody else who was... So we would manually bid an outbid everybody else in our space.

So we would take what we're paying for a CPM, cost per thousand impressions, and we would 10X that amount just to force our ads into the feed, because I knew that I could outspend all of my competitors, right? So I was able to engineer through that process, through knowing my numbers, I was able to engineer that growth, and that's how we were able to hit those seven figures per month within just four months of launching.

Russell: That's awesome.

Keyala: And when you know your numbers, it really gives you a level of freedom. So as an example, when I sat down... February of 2017, I sat down with my team. We were looking at what the numbers were trending for over the past 90 days of running ads. And I said, "Listen, so next month, we're going to hit a million dollars a month. And here's how we're going to do it." And I broke it down for them. I said "In order for us to hit a million dollars next month, we need to have this many appointments on the calendar for our sales team. In order for us to get that many appointments on the calendar, we need to have this many front end buyers." Not every front end buyer would book an appointment on the calendar. I knew exactly what the ratio was. "In order for us to have that many front end buyers, we need to get this many people registered for the webinar." Because I knew exactly what percentage of registrants actually converted to a front end buyer.

And then I said, "In order for us to be profitable on all of that, we can't pay more than 12..." It was roughly about $12.50, somewhere in that ballpark, per registrant. "So, marketing team, can we do that? How do we engineer so that we're driving up X amount of registrations a day, at or below $12.50 so that we can hit this seven figure, this million dollar mark, the following month in March?" And we ended up hitting it about three weeks into the month.

So oftentimes when I'm talking with marketers at masterminds or at events, they'll be asking about how to grow their business, how to scale their business. And a lot of it had to be... To be mean, it's just a lot of pin the debt... Pin the tail on the donkey tactics, right? They're kind of running blind, because I'll start asking, "Well, what does every customer that clicks the buy button, what are they worth?"

"Well, I don't know."

"Oh, what does every person that speaks to your sales team worth?"

"I don't know."

Or they'll say things like, "Well, the average customer... Our most common product is this product." And I'll say, "Well, that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking you the moment that somebody gets to your order page and submits that credit card information, ultimately, what does that customer worth to you?" And if they don't know, then they are, to a degree, running blind, right? They're trying to scale their business without having the metrics to know how to scale it. And therefore, playing pin the tail on the donkey.

The good news is I love math, so it works out really well. But if you don't, there's data analysts out there that you can hire that will come in and run that data for you and help you figure these numbers out, which will give you a game plan that you can follow. It's a treasure map to the promise land, so to speak. So that would be my number one tactic.

Russell: That's awesome, man. I appreciate. I remember the very first event I ever went to 19 years ago, I heard Mike Litman speak and he said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And when he said that it made no sense to me, but I remember hearing that and I was like, "Oh crap, am I an amateur?" I literally was focusing on the front end. And it was a couple of years later as I kept learning this game where I started to kind of realize what you're talking about now, which is like, "Okay, here's the funnel. Here's the pieces. What's the profit at each step?" And a hundred percent, since we were able to figure those things out and we knew, "Oh, we can spend, again, $70, $80 to sell a free book, or to give away a free plus shipping." Or whatever it was, because we knew to value everything. And then that's when we started scaling as well.

So I think that's awesome. I appreciate you sharing that for sure. Very cool. This is fun. I'm actually really enjoying this. I'm getting good ideas on my side. If you guys like it as well, let us know. Okay. We've got one more guest speaker. Before we do, I'm going to pass back over to Yhennifer to make sure that we've got the room set up for everything before we move on to Perry Belcher.

Yhennifer: So I'm excited to have all you guys here. Thank you for being in this room. Just again, another reminder we are recording here for the Marketing Secrets podcast. Make sure that you click on that little green house at the top to follow the club so that you can get notifications when Russell goes live again, we're planning to do many, many more of these. And also ping, some friends in the room, invite some people so they can come in here and join us for this awesome conversation. Back to you, Russell.

Russell: Awesome, thank you so much. All right, so my last special guest today before we transition to full podcast, is someone who I have been a friend and an admirer of for, man, as long as I think of, 10, 15 years. He's one of the co-founders of Digital Marketer and about a million other things. Probably the greatest storyteller I've ever met. One of my favorite people to hear speak and teach and listen. And he's the person who told me to get on Clubhouse initially. So all of those people, if you put them all together is Perry Belcher. So Perry, thanks for jumping on today, man. I appreciate you.

Perry: All right, man. Well, let me start off by griping a little bit. So number one, with the exception of Kevin, who's a really nice guy, I went to his place. I ate good food, he was nice to me. I don't really like anybody else on this whole panel. Morrison in front of his fancy schmancy wall of awards. And I've got a bone to pick with you, Russell. How much stuff have I sold on ClickFunnels? You sent me nothing. I got nothing. I get no respect here. I got stuff on the wall from ClickBank. I got stuff on the wall from YouTube. I got stuff on a wall from everybody. I got nothing from ClickFunnels. I'll tell you that. I get no respect.

Russell: Have you filled out the form that says, "I apply...?"

Perry: Whatever. Forms shcmorms, whatever. Keyala know-it-all, talks all the time. These guys, I don't know where you find them.

Russell: Well with that intro, man I...

Perry: What can I do for you? Can you get me to help you pick better panelists next time? I'll tell you…

Russell: That would actually be super helpful.

Perry: These guys, I don't know. Not all of these guys obviously. But I do think we ought to make Morrison box up half of those things and send them to me. It's only fair.

Russell: It's only fair.

Anthony: They can't get 18 wheelers down my street. So can I send you a 10th of them?

Russell: Oh, that's awesome. Well, Perry, you've done pretty much everything in this business from physical products to info products, to coaching, to flying to china... Everything I think people could do to make money, I think you've done it three or four times. I'm curious, right now through the lens, what would be your biggest marketing secret you could share to people right now today?

Perry: Actually I was thinking about this because when I talked to, I think it was Miles the other day, he kind of gave me a prompt what the question was going to be. Really two things, and one's extensive, and that's learning to tell a really good story. I think people really don't... Most people have no clue how to tell a story about themselves, their company or their products, or what they do. And I think I've been really good at that. I kind of had a natural talent for, but I've gotten really, really good at over years. And I think that's been a big help for me.

And the trick or the cheat on top of that, if you're not good at it or if you are, it's even better, is something that almost nobody does but me. And that's physical premiums. I use physical premiums in every marketing campaign that I have, and Morrison and I were talking the other day, I kind of know some of his numbers, but I got a $7 offer like his now, and my CPA yesterday was $22 because I gave away a $5 hat, you know? And his is I think considerably more than that I'm guessing. Anthony, is that still true?

Anthony: Oh yeah. It's definitely a lot more.

Perry: Yeah. I just love physical premiums and I use them all the way through the funnel. I start with a physical premium. When I go to the upsell, I add another premium and go to the next step sell, add another premium. And people just really don't understand the leverage that a physical premium gives you. I'm not talking about a book, I'm talking about something that somebody wants. Not something that they need, but something that they want. And really, all right so what's a premium? What is that? It's a gift that you give somebody for taking a certain action that you want them to take. Like Russell, you've got a beautiful wife and when you proposed to her, I'm guessing that you had a premium in your offer. Didn't you?

Russell: It wasn't me. Yeah. I was the afterthought.

Perry: Yeah, it's called a diamond ring. You've got all of us... Got to hock that ring, and you've got to give them the premium because they know they're going to get some old guy that sits in a recliner and farts for the rest of his life. So the big prize ain’t that great. So you got it. But seriously though, I've worked on campaigns for LifeLock and we gave away shredders and built all our campaigns for survival preparedness, and now I've got that hat that I got on, the CEO hat, is my newest premium. And for my CEO journal, CEO 5,000 club. And I can acquire really great business buyers who are very aspirational for 20 bucks to cold traffic. That's a 19.4% front end conversion rate yesterday. It was insane.

Russell: Is the offer actually... They had the offer for something else when you're attaching a hat to it.

Perry: The offer is the hat in the beginning, and the upsell is a five day CEO challenge that comes with a big framed certificate. I give people awards. I do. I send it to them. If they're good people, I send them a freaking award. I'm not like some people that I know who just, "You fill out the form..." You know what"

Russell: That second step is hard. Step one, earn it, step two, ask for it. So I get it.

Perry: Yeah right. But anyway, I'm joking. But yeah, the second step is challenging, and because if I didn't have the framed certificate there, which is a very nice premium award, we would probably only get a 15, 20% take rate on the upsell, but instead I get right now in the neighborhood of a 42% up-sell rate on the $47 challenge. And then there's a VIP registration after that, I think it's about 30%. And I think I'll increase that this week, because I didn't have a premium attached to it. I'm going to put another premium that I give them when they buy the VIP for another a hundred bucks. And a good premium, Russell, only has to be something someone wants. It doesn't have to be something they need. For years and years banks gave away toasters when you opened a bank account. The toaster didn't have anything to do with a bank account, but everybody wants a new toaster or a set of steak knives or whatever.

You just find something that somebody wants an ideally, if you're using the premium at the front of the funnel, like I am with this one, you want a premium that identifies the market that you're looking for. If you've got a fishing club or a fishing stuff you want to sell, then you need a fishing hat or a fishing t-shirt or a fishing rod. Something that identifies that front end buyer, that low dollar front-end buyer as having a certain aspiration or interest. But I don't think anybody understands the leverage of it. You'll get in the math...

So what people do that screws them up in the head. And I know Morrison and I've talked about this. He still ain't done it. Right? They get to think, "Well, I got to ship a thing. That's going to cost 10 bucks." Yeah. But your CPA advertising costs is going to go down by 70. Right? So why would you not do that? But that's okay if nobody ever wants to do it, it's good with me. I like being in this ocean all by myself, right? But seriously, you'll never give away a physical gift, a good one that's thought about, thought through, that will increase your cost of delivery more than it will reduce your cost of acquisition. I've never... It's never happened.

Russell: I'm freaking out on my side, because I'm thinking about we have our book funnels all the time, but I was late for the Dotcom Secrets book. If I gave a t-shirt that was like, "I Build Funnels" that came with the Dotcom Secrets book. Right?

Perry: Then I'm going to rat out my best partner. So Ryan brought out his book, The Invisible Selling Machine. Remember that?

Russell: Yep.

Perry: So we sent that to the digital marketer list who love him like a fat kid loves cake, right? And that offer went out and he got a 3.9% conversion on it. And he was so disappointed. We were all disappointed. We put a digital marker "I'm smarter" t-shirt with it, conversion went to 11.1%, on a bundle. So you're talking about a $5 shirt, you know…

Russell: 3X the conversion

Perry: Well, you can say it increased the version, which it did, but it also reduced the cost of acquisition by three fours.

Russell: Yeah.

Perry: So whether you're... If you're buying media to it, it's emphatically important. And as we put more and more premiums down funnel, we see the same thing happen where the down funnel sales double and triple, and you just keep increasing the value of the premium as you keep increasing the price of the down-funnel products for sale. I'm into it so much I bought a... I've got a 24,000 square foot warehouse here now, where we make and print and embroider all of our premiums and we do it for some of our other people. But I got so into it that I wanted to be prime on it. So we make all of our own stuff now. It's a big deal.

Russell: That's killer. Dude, Perry, thank you for sharing that. That was a big one for me. I'm sure it's awesome for everyone else.

Perry: No problem.

Russell: Very cool. Well those were our guest speakers for today. So I want to thank all of our guests for jumping on and sharing their biggest marketing secret. I got a bunch of notes to myself for myself here, which is exciting, which is awesome.

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]]> 2344 no Obsession With The ACV = 10X Returns https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/obsession-with-the-acv-10x-returns After tons of questions about the difference between a 2 million dollar and a 40 million dollar a year company, now I’m going to show you behind the scenes. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Also check out marketingsecrets.com/2ccl ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today's episode I want to talk about obsessing over your average cart value. All right. So I've been having so much fun in business recently. A lot of good things are happening. Things I can't tell you about yet. Things that at funnel hacking live will become apparent. And by January 1st of next year, it will become, you guys will see the future. I've been there. It's amazing and I'm coming back and I'm going to show it to you guys. But anyway, I can't tell you all the details. But I can tell you the things I am obsessing about right now because they're exciting. And one of the questions that I got a lot, there's an episode I did five or six episodes ago where I talked about the difference between a $2 million a year company and a $40 million company. And I just talked about there's two businesses I know of that sell basically the same product. One's doing 2 million bucks a year and one's doing 40. And I talked about just thinking strategically different, but I didn't, excuse me, I didn't give all the details behind it for a couple of reasons. Number one is I'm trying to acquire the $40 million a year company and I'm under all sorts of NDAs and stuff. So I can't talk about it, but after the acquisition is done, I guarantee you I'll be like... Anyway, you know I'm not good at keeping secrets. I'm the worst. This web podcast is called Marketing Secrets. My books are all called... Whatever secrets I got I just give you all the secrets. Somebody asked me, "Russell, can you keep a secret?" I'm like, "No." I've got no ability to keep secrets. I'm just going to write a book about it or do a podcast. Anyway. So don't tell me your secrets, but I'm sure that I will share with you guys more as I'm able to. But anyway, this I can share though, is as I'm watching again, the difference between $2 million offer and a $40 million a year offer is obsession with one thing. Can you guess what it is? I told you the intro. So now you know, it's obsession with your average cart value, the ACV. So what's the average cart value? That is how much money on average a customer gives you when they come into your funnel. Right? So a good example, this is my books, right? So someone buys a book and they may pay $9.95 shipping handling for the hard cover .Com Secrets book, right? So they buy that. But it doesn't mean my average cart value is 10 bucks because from there they can, there's the order form bump and then upsell one, upsell two, there's all, there's the whole process we take people through, right? So as they go through this process, the average person, so for everyone who buys the book let's say we sell a thousand books and some people buy upsell one some buy upsell one and two, everyone's buying different things, but if you do the average of all of them, it means on average how much you make for every book buyer. So a good example is when we first launched the Traffic Secrets book, I remember the average cart value was $70. So for everyone who bought a book, we averaged $70 in collected revenue during the immediate funnel, the point of sale funnel, right? It's not talking about over the next 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. Because there's lifetime value customer there's always other metrics we look at, but for average cart value is how much money they make immediately, point of sale, while they're hanging out with you. Right? And so that's the number. Now we launched the book Funnel, obviously when you first launch it, it's like your most excited audience, right? Like all you guys were probably like, "I'm going to buy Russell's book." And you're like, "I'm going to buy all the upsells." And you did and I'm grateful for that. But the average cart value was amazing, it was like 70 bucks a book. And over time as you go to colder traffic, that'll usually taper down and maybe it ends at 35, 40 bucks average cart value. Right? But knowing that, "Hey, I can spend 40 bucks to sell a book and I'm still profitable." That's a big deal. Right? That's the reason why we're able to sell so many books is because I can spend $40 to sell a free book, whereas everyone else in the publishing world they're selling them on Amazon for 20 bucks, they can spend 20 bucks maybe, and that's about it. So I can spend twice as much to acquire a customer or more because I control the cart. Plus, again, after the cart's done, then there's the email sequence, all these other things that we monetize and so that customer becomes a lot more, worth a lot more to us over time. But the average cart value is the key, right? Especially in this game, there are obviously companies we compete against who have outside investors and funding and they'll go six. They'll go negative. So they'll spend $200 or a thousand dollars to get a customer and it takes them six months to get their money back. But for me, and for you guys who are Smart Funnel hackers, who understand this game, for the most part you should be able to break even in real time. Right? So you should, when you spend a hundred dollars on ads, you should make a hundred dollars, worst case scenario, right? Just because that's, we're, we all should be. The amateurs in this Funnel Hacker world, we should be better than the majority of businesses. Right? You should be able to break even at point of sale. And so that's the first thing, right? That's how we're able to grow with scale these businesses is that we could spend $40 to sell a free book and we still break even. And now everything on the backside of that is gravy. So hopefully that makes sense because I'm going to go a little deeper here now, but that's the first part. And I'm sorry, there's so many, I know for some of you guys who've been around me for a long time and you're like "Yeah, that's a no brainer." For somebody who's maybe newer, who might be like, "I don't understand how this works. I thought that was my business was my funnel?" And it's like, "Yeah, but that's the first funnel, right?" One of my first mentors, actually the first seminar I ever went to, I heard Mike Limon say, he said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And I didn't know what he meant for years, but I was trying to, I was trying to make money on my front end funnel and what he was saying at the time, I remember he was saying he was spending $30 to give away a free DVD. And I was like, "How are you doing that?" But I didn't realize that people gave away the free DVD. They called him on the phone two weeks later, he sold them a 5,000 coaching package and he had this whole business model. And so he's able to go in the hole because he knew that 30 days later he was going to make money. Right? And so that's, amateurs folks on the front end we're Funnel Hackers, we're not amateurs. We're the ones who understand this game and so we can make really good funnels that are profit on front end and then we've got the backend on top of it. So that's why we're able to grow companies so quickly. Right? So anyway, I digress. The thing I want to ask you guys about today is obsession over average cart value. So what I typically do, and this is my bad habit is we get together, we launched the funnel, then at launch time we're split testing, we're tweaking, we're testing, we're trying to get the average cart value as high as we can. And then after two or three weeks, Russell gets bored, he goes on to the next offer and he leaves. Okay? And my friend, who we're purchasing his company that did $40 million in sales last year, I've watched him, he's got, I don't know, four or five little front end funnels that he focuses on. Actually for him, he doesn't have a back end, which is why we're acquiring them because ClickFunnels would be perfect backend, right? But he's making all his money just off the front end funnels. But his obsession is with the average cart value, right? How much can you make for every person that comes through the funnel? And right now, just to put it in perspective, I can't remember exact numbers, but his average cart value is something like $160. So it makes it $160 every single person who buys his front end thing, which is insane. It means he can spend $160 to sell one of his things, and it's things not a free plus shipping. There's, there's a cost in it and I'm not going to tell you the pricing yet, because I can't, but it's crazy. And as I've been talking to him, as we've been doing this negotiation and buying it, purchasing the company, he'll send me messages about things he's testing and he's still the same offer he's been writing for five or six years now, it's killing it. That I might, I'd be like, there's no way to make this better. He's like, "Show me the things they're doing." And they're not like, a lot of us do split test. Right? I try this headline versus headline this versus this. And that's great, but he's not just doing that. He's been testing so much at such a deep level, he's doing these big radical shifts, right? You show me this process of where when somebody comes in after X amount of seconds this thing pops up and then for a coupon they email in. And then he sends out this email sequence and he's split testing two or three different email sequences, see which one gets the highest take rate and on and on, on. All these things, you know? And that's his obsession, is this deep dive on average cart value, making it better and better and better, you know? And when he got this focus on funnels initially, the average cart value was $60 bucks. Right? Which is good. I would have been celebrating "Ooh, 60 bucks. Good to go." I think that would have been a break even at that point because they're spending about 60 bucks to break even but then he's obsessed with. Like, "Okay, we need another upsell. What's the down sell? How do we change this? How do we change this? How to tweak this? What's the email sequence? What's the post, the pre, the landing page? What are the, like he geeks out on all these pieces at such a deep level. I started realizing that that's my, one of my biggest problems on my side, is that I do some testing up front, it's good enough, we run it and then our ad team run it, and then it runs till it's not profitable anymore and then we pause it and come back three months later and try to run it again. Right? Whereas he just keeps going deeper and deeper and deeper. And so on my side, we started building out a team specifically just to do this. He's in of my sites inspired me, "Okay, if I'm making $40 average cart value in a book, what would the metrics look like if I get to $80? If I get to $80 average cart value that changes everything, right?" It's not a little tweak, I could spend an $80 to give away a free book. The metrics on that are insane. Right now I can sell millions of copies of book versus right now we're selling hundreds of thousands of copies of the book. Right? But it's that. But I had to figure that out. So I don't know how to do it yet, but it becomes the obsession. Right? I did a clubhouse, which is probably going to be on this podcast soon. I did a marketing CS podcasts or clubhouse and on that I asked people their biggest marketing secret and Perry Belcher dropped this bomb. You may have heard this, but he said the biggest thing he found, the biggest marketing secrets he has are now are adding premiums to things. And he specifically said that when Ryan Deiss launched his book, he was getting 3% conversion rate, and so he added a t-shirt with it. Now that adds premium and went from a 3% conversion to 11%. And he didn't talk about average cart value but come on now, you get three times as many customers to buy for the exact same ad spend? Your cart value could three X, right? You can go from a $40 average cart value to a $120 by adding a t-shirt to go with your free thing. Or something crazy like adding a premium. So I don't know if that's going to work or not. I have no idea, but guess what we're testing this week? We're going to test you buy a dotcom secrets book you get an I Build Funnels t-shirt right? Let's see how that works. Because if that increases cart value by whatever, that's insane, right? The three X of my cart value, now I can spend three times more money to get customers. And then he talks about, he was doing premiums not on the front end, but on the upsells and the down sells and things like that as well. It's like, what are the premiums that can be added that make people more likely to take the offers, which increases the average cart value?What's the email sequences, what's the actual offer? Could we make the offer better to offer to be more expensive? Does it need to be less expensive? There's just a million things you could test. But most of us are like, "Okay, I tested headline A, headline B and that's it. Right? Or we don't test at all but it's like, man, after you have a funnel that works, like my buddy here, he spends obsessively for four or five years now the same product that another one of my really, really good marketing friends does 2 million bucks a year on, he's doing 40, and the difference is obsession with cart value. Because he can outspend everybody else, 10 to one. Right? And so that's the question for you is how can you obsess about your average cart value? What things can you do? Can you build a team or a process? I used to have a mantra in our company back in the day, it was when Todd was not developing ClickFunnels for full-time, but he was doing more stuff on the marketing, he would come up with split test ideas and we tried to compete against each other all the time. It was really fun. And so our mantra at the time was like, how do we give ourselves a raise every day? And it's like, well, the way we do it is by split testing, right. Let's test this versus this versus this and keep testing different things. And we have a winner, right? You add a t-shirt premium offer let's say to your book funnel and all of a sudden it goes from a 3% to 11%, you just 30 x your money or more, that's, you just gave yourself a raise today. Right? So that was always the question is how do you give yourself a raise today? How do we give ourselves a raise today? What's the next thing? What's an idea? What could we do to drive the needle, make those changes. And so for you, that's what I want to post this in your mind, right? After you have a funnel that works, instead of doing what I do, moving on to the next funnel, or focusing on something different, come back and say, "Okay, here's my cart value. Every single day how do I increase the cart value? What can I do today? What can I trust today? What can I try today? What else can I do? How do I shift the offer? How do I position it from... What can I do to it to increase that cart value? And the more you start thinking about it, the more ideas will come, the more bigger highs you have, all these things we'll tweak and change based on that. So anyway, that's what I want to encourage us to do, is starting to obsess with the average cart value. ACV, average cart value, how much do you make for each customer that comes into your world? All right. With that said, I'm going to end this podcast because I'm getting into traffic and I don't want to wreck. So there you go. Anyway, I appreciate you guys listening. Hopefully you got some value from this episode and hopefully it starts a new obsession for you on the thing that could take your funnel from a $2 million a year to a $40 million a year thing. Obsession with the average cart value. Thanks again guys. And I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Obsession With The ACV = 10X Returns full 423 Russell Brunson | YAP Media After tons of questions about the difference between a 2 million dollar and a 40 million dollar a year company, now I’m going to show you behind the scenes. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  Also... After tons of questions about the difference between a 2 million dollar and a 40 million dollar a year company, now I’m going to show you behind the scenes. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Also check out marketingsecrets.com/2ccl ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today's episode I want to talk about obsessing over your average cart value. All right. So I've been having so much fun in business recently. A lot of good things are happening. Things I can't tell you about yet. Things that at funnel hacking live will become apparent. And by January 1st of next year, it will become, you guys will see the future. I've been there. It's amazing and I'm coming back and I'm going to show it to you guys. But anyway, I can't tell you all the details. But I can tell you the things I am obsessing about right now because they're exciting. And one of the questions that I got a lot, there's an episode I did five or six episodes ago where I talked about the difference between a $2 million a year company and a $40 million company. And I just talked about there's two businesses I know of that sell basically the same product. One's doing 2 million bucks a year and one's doing 40. And I talked about just thinking strategically different, but I didn't, excuse me, I didn't give all the details behind it for a couple of reasons. Number one is I'm trying to acquire the $40 million a year company and I'm under all sorts of NDAs and stuff. So I can't talk about it, but after the acquisition is done, I guarantee you I'll be like... Anyway, you know I'm not good at keeping secrets. I'm the worst. This web podcast is called Marketing Secrets. My books are all called... Whatever secrets I got I just give you all the secrets. Somebody asked me, "Russell, can you keep a secret?" I'm like, "No." I've got no ability to keep secrets. I'm just going to write a book about it or do a podcast. Anyway. So don't tell me your secrets, but I'm sure that I will share with you guys more as I'm able to. But anyway, this I can share though, is as I'm watching again, the difference between $2 million offer and a $40 million a year offer is obsession with one thing. Can you guess what it is? I told you the intro. So now you know, it's obsession with your average cart value, the ACV. So what's the average cart value? That is how much money on average a customer gives you when they come into your funnel. Right? So a good example, this is my books, right? So someone buys a book and they may pay $9.95 shipping handling for the hard cover .Com Secrets book, right? So they buy that. But it doesn't mean my average cart value is 10 bucks because from there they can, there's the order form bump and then upsell one, upsell two, there's all, there's the whole process we take people through, right? So as they go through this process, the average person, so for everyone who buys the book let's say we sell a thousand books and some people buy upsell one some buy upsell one and two, everyone's buying different things, but if you do the average of all of them, it means on average how much you make for every book buyer. So a good example is when we first launched the Traffic Secrets book, I remember the average cart value was $70. So for everyone who bought a book, we averaged $70 in collected revenue during the immediate funnel, the point of sale funnel, right? It's not talking about over the next 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. Because there's lifetime value customer there's always other metrics we look at, but for average cart value is how much money they make immediately, point of sale, while they're hanging out with you. Right? And so that's the number. Now we launched the book Funnel, obviously when you first launch it, it's like your most excited audience, right? Like all you guys were probably like, "I'm going to buy Russell's book." And you're like, "I'm going to buy all the upsells." And you did and I'm grateful for that. But the average cart value was amazing, it was like 70 bucks a book. And over time as you go to colder traffic, that'll usually taper down and maybe it ends at 35, 40 bucks average cart value. Right? But knowing that, "Hey, I can spend 40 bucks to sell a book and I'm still profitable." That's a big deal. Right? That's the reason why we're able to sell so many books is because I can spend $40 to sell a free book, whereas everyone else in the publishing world they're selling them on Amazon for 20 bucks, they can spend 20 bucks maybe, and that's about it. So I can spend twice as much to acquire a customer or more because I control the cart. Plus, again, after the cart's done, then there's the email sequence, all these other things that we monetize and so that customer becomes a lot more, worth a lot more to us over time. But the average cart value is the key, right? Especially in this game, there are obviously companies we compete against who have outside investors and funding and they'll go six. They'll go negative. So they'll spend $200 or a thousand dollars to get a customer and it takes them six months to get their money back. But for me, and for you guys who are Smart Funnel hackers, who understand this game, for the most part you should be able to break even in real time. Right? So you should, when you spend a hundred dollars on ads, you should make a hundred dollars, worst case scenario, right? Just because that's, we're, we all should be. The amateurs in this Funnel Hacker world, we should be better than the majority of businesses. Right? You should be able to break even at point of sale. And so that's the first thing, right? That's how we're able to grow with scale these businesses is that we could spend $40 to sell a free book and we still break even. And now everything on the backside of that is gravy. So hopefully that makes sense because I'm going to go a little deeper here now, but that's the first part. And I'm sorry, there's so many, I know for some of you guys who've been around me for a long time and you're like "Yeah, that's a no brainer." For somebody who's maybe newer, who might be like, "I don't understand how this works. I thought that was my business was my funnel?" And it's like, "Yeah, but that's the first funnel, right?" One of my first mentors, actually the first seminar I ever went to, I heard Mike Limon say, he said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And I didn't know what he meant for years, but I was trying to, I was trying to make money on my front end funnel and what he was saying at the time, I remember he was saying he was spending $30 to give away a free DVD. And I was like, "How are you doing that?" But I didn't realize that people gave away the free DVD. They called him on the phone two weeks later, he sold them a 5,000 coaching package and he had this whole business model. And so he's able to go in the hole because he knew that 30 days later he was going to make money. Right? And so that's, amateurs folks on the front end we're Funnel Hackers, we're not amateurs. We're the ones who understand this game and so we can make really good funnels that are profit on front end and then we've got the backend on top of it. So that's why we're able to grow companies so quickly. Right? So anyway, I digress. The thing I want to ask you guys about today is obsession over average cart value. So what I typically do, and this is my bad habit is we get together, we launched the funnel, then at launch time we're split testing, we're tweaking, we're testing, we're trying to get the average cart value as high as we can. And then after two or three weeks, Russell gets bored, he goes on to the next offer and he leaves. Okay? And my friend, who we're purchasing his company that did $40 million in sales last year, I've watched him, he's got, I don't know, four or five little front end funnels that he focuses on. Actually for him, he doesn't have a back end, which is why we're acquiring them because ClickFunnels would be perfect backend, right? But he's making all his money just off the front end funnels. But his obsession is with the average cart value, right? How much can you make for every person that comes through the funnel? And right now, just to put it in perspective, I can't remember exact numbers, but his average cart value is something like $160. So it makes it $160 every single person who buys his front end thing, which is insane. It means he can spend $160 to sell one of his things, and it's things not a free plus shipping. There's, there's a cost in it and I'm not going to tell you the pricing yet, because I can't, but it's crazy. And as I've been talking to him, as we've been doing this negotiation and buying it, purchasing the company, he'll send me messages about things he's testing and he's still the same offer he's been writing for five or six years now, it's killing it. That I might, I'd be like, there's no way to make this better. He's like, "Show me the things they're doing." And they're not like, a lot of us do split test. Right? I try this headline versus headline this versus this. And that's great, but he's not just doing that. He's been testing so much at such a deep level, he's doing these big radical shifts, right? You show me this process of where when somebody comes in after X amount of seconds this thing pops up and then for a coupon they email in. And then he sends out this email sequence and he's split testing two or three different email sequences, see which one gets the highest take rate and on and on, on. All these things, you know? And that's his obsession, is this deep dive on average cart value, making it better and better and better, you know? And when he got this focus on funnels initially, the average cart value was $60 bucks. Right? Which is good. I would have been celebrating "Ooh, 60 bucks. Good to go." I think that would have been a break even at that point because they're spending about 60 bucks to break even but then he's obsessed with. Like, "Okay, we need another upsell. What's the down sell? How do we change this? How do we change this? How to tweak this? What's the email sequence? What's the post, the pre, the landing page? What are the, like he geeks out on all these pieces at such a deep level. I started realizing that that's my, one of my biggest problems on my side, is that I do some testing up front, it's good enough, we run it and then our ad team run it, and then it runs till it's not profitable anymore and then we pause it and come back three months later and try to run it again. Right? Whereas he just keeps going deeper and deeper and deeper. And so on my side, we started building out a team specifically just to do this. He's in of my sites inspired me, "Okay, if I'm making $40 average cart value in a book, what would the metrics look like if I get to $80? If I get to $80 average cart value that changes everything, right?" It's not a little tweak, I could spend an $80 to give away a free book. The metrics on that are insane. Right now I can sell millions of copies of book versus right now we're selling hundreds of thousands of copies of the book. Right? But it's that. But I had to figure that out. So I don't know how to do it yet, but it becomes the obsession. Right? I did a clubhouse, which is probably going to be on this podcast soon. I did a marketing CS podcasts or clubhouse and on that I asked people their biggest marketing secret and Perry Belcher dropped this bomb. You may have heard this, but he said the biggest thing he found, the biggest marketing secrets he has are now are adding premiums to things. And he specifically said that when Ryan Deiss launched his book, he was getting 3% conversion rate, and so he added a t-shirt with it. Now that adds premium and went from a 3% conversion to 11%. And he didn't talk about average cart value but come on now, you get three times as many customers to buy for the exact same ad spend? Your cart value could three X, right? You can go from a $40 average cart value to a $120 by adding a t-shirt to go with your free thing. Or something crazy like adding a premium. So I don't know if that's going to work or not. I have no idea, but guess what we're testing this week? We're going to test you buy a dotcom secrets book you get an I Build Funnels t-shirt right? Let's see how that works. Because if that increases cart value by whatever, that's insane, right? The three X of my cart value, now I can spend three times more money to get customers. And then he talks about, he was doing premiums not on the front end, but on the upsells and the down sells and things like that as well. It's like, what are the premiums that can be added that make people more likely to take the offers, which increases the average cart value?What's the email sequences, what's the actual offer? Could we make the offer better to offer to be more expensive? Does it need to be less expensive? There's just a million things you could test. But most of us are like, "Okay, I tested headline A, headline B and that's it. Right? Or we don't test at all but it's like, man, after you have a funnel that works, like my buddy here, he spends obsessively for four or five years now the same product that another one of my really, really good marketing friends does 2 million bucks a year on, he's doing 40, and the difference is obsession with cart value. Because he can outspend everybody else, 10 to one. Right? And so that's the question for you is how can you obsess about your average cart value? What things can you do? Can you build a team or a process? I used to have a mantra in our company back in the day, it was when Todd was not developing ClickFunnels for full-time, but he was doing more stuff on the marketing, he would come up with split test ideas and we tried to compete against each other all the time. It was really fun. And so our mantra at the time was like, how do we give ourselves a raise every day? And it's like, well, the way we do it is by split testing, right. Let's test this versus this versus this and keep testing different things. And we have a winner, right? You add a t-shirt premium offer let's say to your book funnel and all of a sudden it goes from a 3% to 11%, you just 30 x your money or more, that's, you just gave yourself a raise today. Right? So that was always the question is how do you give yourself a raise today? How do we give ourselves a raise today? What's the next thing? What's an idea? What could we do to drive the needle, make those changes. And so for you, that's what I want to post this in your mind, right? After you have a funnel that works, instead of doing what I do, moving on to the next funnel, or focusing on something different, come back and say, "Okay, here's my cart value. Every single day how do I increase the cart value? What can I do today? What can I trust today? What can I try today? What else can I do? How do I shift the offer? How do I position it from... What can I do to it to increase that cart value? And the more you start thinking about it, the more ideas will come, the more bigger highs you have, all these things we'll tweak and change based on that. So anyway, that's what I want to encourage us to do, is starting to obsess with the average cart value. ACV, average cart value, how much do you make for each customer that comes into your world? All right. With that said, I'm going to end this podcast because I'm getting into traffic and I don't want to wreck. So there you go. Anyway, I appreciate you guys listening. Hopefully you got some value from this episode and hopefully it starts a new obsession for you on the thing that could take your funnel from a $2 million a year to a $40 million a year thing. Obsession with the average cart value. Thanks again guys. And I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. 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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today's episode I want to talk about obsessing over your average cart value. All right. So I've been having so much fun in business recently. A lot of good things are happening. Things I can't tell you about yet. Things that at funnel hacking live will become apparent. And by January 1st of next year, it will become, you guys will see the future. I've been there. It's amazing and I'm coming back and I'm going to show it to you guys.

But anyway, I can't tell you all the details. But I can tell you the things I am obsessing about right now because they're exciting. And one of the questions that I got a lot, there's an episode I did five or six episodes ago where I talked about the difference between a $2 million a year company and a $40 million company. And I just talked about there's two businesses I know of that sell basically the same product. One's doing 2 million bucks a year and one's doing 40. And I talked about just thinking strategically different, but I didn't, excuse me, I didn't give all the details behind it for a couple of reasons. Number one is I'm trying to acquire the $40 million a year company and I'm under all sorts of NDAs and stuff. So I can't talk about it, but after the acquisition is done, I guarantee you I'll be like... Anyway, you know I'm not good at keeping secrets. I'm the worst.

This web podcast is called Marketing Secrets. My books are all called... Whatever secrets I got I just give you all the secrets. Somebody asked me, "Russell, can you keep a secret?" I'm like, "No." I've got no ability to keep secrets. I'm just going to write a book about it or do a podcast. Anyway. So don't tell me your secrets, but I'm sure that I will share with you guys more as I'm able to.

But anyway, this I can share though, is as I'm watching again, the difference between $2 million offer and a $40 million a year offer is obsession with one thing. Can you guess what it is? I told you the intro. So now you know, it's obsession with your average cart value, the ACV. So what's the average cart value? That is how much money on average a customer gives you when they come into your funnel. Right?

So a good example, this is my books, right? So someone buys a book and they may pay $9.95 shipping handling for the hard cover .Com Secrets book, right? So they buy that. But it doesn't mean my average cart value is 10 bucks because from there they can, there's the order form bump and then upsell one, upsell two, there's all, there's the whole process we take people through, right? So as they go through this process, the average person, so for everyone who buys the book let's say we sell a thousand books and some people buy upsell one some buy upsell one and two, everyone's buying different things, but if you do the average of all of them, it means on average how much you make for every book buyer. So a good example is when we first launched the Traffic Secrets book, I remember the average cart value was $70.

So for everyone who bought a book, we averaged $70 in collected revenue during the immediate funnel, the point of sale funnel, right? It's not talking about over the next 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. Because there's lifetime value customer there's always other metrics we look at, but for average cart value is how much money they make immediately, point of sale, while they're hanging out with you. Right?

And so that's the number. Now we launched the book Funnel, obviously when you first launch it, it's like your most excited audience, right? Like all you guys were probably like, "I'm going to buy Russell's book." And you're like, "I'm going to buy all the upsells." And you did and I'm grateful for that. But the average cart value was amazing, it was like 70 bucks a book. And over time as you go to colder traffic, that'll usually taper down and maybe it ends at 35, 40 bucks average cart value. Right?

But knowing that, "Hey, I can spend 40 bucks to sell a book and I'm still profitable." That's a big deal. Right? That's the reason why we're able to sell so many books is because I can spend $40 to sell a free book, whereas everyone else in the publishing world they're selling them on Amazon for 20 bucks, they can spend 20 bucks maybe, and that's about it. So I can spend twice as much to acquire a customer or more because I control the cart.

Plus, again, after the cart's done, then there's the email sequence, all these other things that we monetize and so that customer becomes a lot more, worth a lot more to us over time. But the average cart value is the key, right? Especially in this game, there are obviously companies we compete against who have outside investors and funding and they'll go six. They'll go negative. So they'll spend $200 or a thousand dollars to get a customer and it takes them six months to get their money back.

But for me, and for you guys who are Smart Funnel hackers, who understand this game, for the most part you should be able to break even in real time. Right? So you should, when you spend a hundred dollars on ads, you should make a hundred dollars, worst case scenario, right? Just because that's, we're, we all should be. The amateurs in this Funnel Hacker world, we should be better than the majority of businesses. Right? You should be able to break even at point of sale.

And so that's the first thing, right? That's how we're able to grow with scale these businesses is that we could spend $40 to sell a free book and we still break even. And now everything on the backside of that is gravy. So hopefully that makes sense because I'm going to go a little deeper here now, but that's the first part.

And I'm sorry, there's so many, I know for some of you guys who've been around me for a long time and you're like "Yeah, that's a no brainer." For somebody who's maybe newer, who might be like, "I don't understand how this works. I thought that was my business was my funnel?" And it's like, "Yeah, but that's the first funnel, right?"

One of my first mentors, actually the first seminar I ever went to, I heard Mike Limon say, he said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And I didn't know what he meant for years, but I was trying to, I was trying to make money on my front end funnel and what he was saying at the time, I remember he was saying he was spending $30 to give away a free DVD. And I was like, "How are you doing that?" But I didn't realize that people gave away the free DVD. They called him on the phone two weeks later, he sold them a 5,000 coaching package and he had this whole business model. And so he's able to go in the hole because he knew that 30 days later he was going to make money. Right?

And so that's, amateurs folks on the front end we're Funnel Hackers, we're not amateurs. We're the ones who understand this game and so we can make really good funnels that are profit on front end and then we've got the backend on top of it. So that's why we're able to grow companies so quickly. Right?

So anyway, I digress. The thing I want to ask you guys about today is obsession over average cart value. So what I typically do, and this is my bad habit is we get together, we launched the funnel, then at launch time we're split testing, we're tweaking, we're testing, we're trying to get the average cart value as high as we can. And then after two or three weeks, Russell gets bored, he goes on to the next offer and he leaves. Okay? And my friend, who we're purchasing his company that did $40 million in sales last year, I've watched him, he's got, I don't know, four or five little front end funnels that he focuses on. Actually for him, he doesn't have a back end, which is why we're acquiring them because ClickFunnels would be perfect backend, right?

But he's making all his money just off the front end funnels. But his obsession is with the average cart value, right? How much can you make for every person that comes through the funnel? And right now, just to put it in perspective, I can't remember exact numbers, but his average cart value is something like $160. So it makes it $160 every single person who buys his front end thing, which is insane. It means he can spend $160 to sell one of his things, and it's things not a free plus shipping. There's, there's a cost in it and I'm not going to tell you the pricing yet, because I can't, but it's crazy.

And as I've been talking to him, as we've been doing this negotiation and buying it, purchasing the company, he'll send me messages about things he's testing and he's still the same offer he's been writing for five or six years now, it's killing it. That I might, I'd be like, there's no way to make this better. He's like, "Show me the things they're doing." And they're not like, a lot of us do split test. Right? I try this headline versus headline this versus this. And that's great, but he's not just doing that. He's been testing so much at such a deep level, he's doing these big radical shifts, right? You show me this process of where when somebody comes in after X amount of seconds this thing pops up and then for a coupon they email in. And then he sends out this email sequence and he's split testing two or three different email sequences, see which one gets the highest take rate and on and on, on. All these things, you know? And that's his obsession, is this deep dive on average cart value, making it better and better and better, you know?

And when he got this focus on funnels initially, the average cart value was $60 bucks. Right? Which is good. I would have been celebrating "Ooh, 60 bucks. Good to go." I think that would have been a break even at that point because they're spending about 60 bucks to break even but then he's obsessed with. Like, "Okay, we need another upsell. What's the down sell? How do we change this? How do we change this? How to tweak this? What's the email sequence? What's the post, the pre, the landing page? What are the, like he geeks out on all these pieces at such a deep level. I started realizing that that's my, one of my biggest problems on my side, is that I do some testing up front, it's good enough, we run it and then our ad team run it, and then it runs till it's not profitable anymore and then we pause it and come back three months later and try to run it again. Right?

Whereas he just keeps going deeper and deeper and deeper. And so on my side, we started building out a team specifically just to do this. He's in of my sites inspired me, "Okay, if I'm making $40 average cart value in a book, what would the metrics look like if I get to $80? If I get to $80 average cart value that changes everything, right?" It's not a little tweak, I could spend an $80 to give away a free book. The metrics on that are insane. Right now I can sell millions of copies of book versus right now we're selling hundreds of thousands of copies of the book. Right? But it's that. But I had to figure that out. So I don't know how to do it yet, but it becomes the obsession. Right?

I did a clubhouse, which is probably going to be on this podcast soon. I did a marketing CS podcasts or clubhouse and on that I asked people their biggest marketing secret and Perry Belcher dropped this bomb. You may have heard this, but he said the biggest thing he found, the biggest marketing secrets he has are now are adding premiums to things. And he specifically said that when Ryan Deiss launched his book, he was getting 3% conversion rate, and so he added a t-shirt with it. Now that adds premium and went from a 3% conversion to 11%. And he didn't talk about average cart value but come on now, you get three times as many customers to buy for the exact same ad spend? Your cart value could three X, right? You can go from a $40 average cart value to a $120 by adding a t-shirt to go with your free thing. Or something crazy like adding a premium. So I don't know if that's going to work or not. I have no idea, but guess what we're testing this week? We're going to test you buy a dotcom secrets book you get an I Build Funnels t-shirt right? Let's see how that works. Because if that increases cart value by whatever, that's insane, right?

The three X of my cart value, now I can spend three times more money to get customers. And then he talks about, he was doing premiums not on the front end, but on the upsells and the down sells and things like that as well. It's like, what are the premiums that can be added that make people more likely to take the offers, which increases the average cart value?What's the email sequences, what's the actual offer? Could we make the offer better to offer to be more expensive? Does it need to be less expensive? There's just a million things you could test.

But most of us are like, "Okay, I tested headline A, headline B and that's it. Right? Or we don't test at all but it's like, man, after you have a funnel that works, like my buddy here, he spends obsessively for four or five years now the same product that another one of my really, really good marketing friends does 2 million bucks a year on, he's doing 40, and the difference is obsession with cart value. Because he can outspend everybody else, 10 to one. Right?

And so that's the question for you is how can you obsess about your average cart value? What things can you do? Can you build a team or a process? I used to have a mantra in our company back in the day, it was when Todd was not developing ClickFunnels for full-time, but he was doing more stuff on the marketing, he would come up with split test ideas and we tried to compete against each other all the time. It was really fun. And so our mantra at the time was like, how do we give ourselves a raise every day? And it's like, well, the way we do it is by split testing, right. Let's test this versus this versus this and keep testing different things. And we have a winner, right? You add a t-shirt premium offer let's say to your book funnel and all of a sudden it goes from a 3% to 11%, you just 30 x your money or more, that's, you just gave yourself a raise today. Right? So that was always the question is how do you give yourself a raise today? How do we give ourselves a raise today? What's the next thing? What's an idea? What could we do to drive the needle, make those changes.

And so for you, that's what I want to post this in your mind, right? After you have a funnel that works, instead of doing what I do, moving on to the next funnel, or focusing on something different, come back and say, "Okay, here's my cart value. Every single day how do I increase the cart value? What can I do today? What can I trust today? What can I try today? What else can I do? How do I shift the offer? How do I position it from... What can I do to it to increase that cart value? And the more you start thinking about it, the more ideas will come, the more bigger highs you have, all these things we'll tweak and change based on that.

So anyway, that's what I want to encourage us to do, is starting to obsess with the average cart value. ACV, average cart value, how much do you make for each customer that comes into your world?

All right. With that said, I'm going to end this podcast because I'm getting into traffic and I don't want to wreck. So there you go. Anyway, I appreciate you guys listening. Hopefully you got some value from this episode and hopefully it starts a new obsession for you on the thing that could take your funnel from a $2 million a year to a $40 million a year thing. Obsession with the average cart value.

Thanks again guys. And I'll talk to you soon.

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]]> 901 no Listen, Do, Succeed (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/listen-do-succeed-revisited Enjoy this replay of a special episode from a few years ago. Russell breaks down this simple 3 step system on how to be coachable. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hey everyone, I’m really excited, I know I’m always excited, but today I’m especially excited because yesterday I hired a new coach. If you’ve been listening to the podcast for 5 years like you should have been, I’ve talked about this before in the past. But I’m a big, big, big, big believer in coaching. When I was wrestling I always had a coach, I usually had 3 or 4 coaches. I had a freestyle coach, Greco coach, nutrition coach, strength training coach. But sometimes we get in business and we’re like, “Oh we’re so smart, we don’t need coaches.” And no, you’re wrong. In fact, it’s kind of funny because a lot of people I know who are really successful in this business for a long time who no longer are, they’re like the last people to go and get coaching. It blows my mind, because they think they know how to do it all. I’m kind of at the top of my game right now, I don’t know, maybe it’ll go higher, but I definitely think I’m 9 ½ minutes into my 10 minutes of fame, what it is 15 minutes of fame, 14 ½ minutes in. So who knows when this whole thing will go down, but for me I’m at the peak of where I’ve ever wanted or dreamt of being. I’m still trying to find coaches to coach me in different areas of my life and different aspects and different things. I’ve had health coaches, business coaches, all sorts of stuff. Yesterday, actually two days ago I was listening to a podcast, actually the Freedom Fast Lane podcast by Ryan Moran, and he was doing a call with this dude, and the guy coached him through this thing on the podcast. I was like, that was insane. I said out loud that I want that guy to do that thing for me every Monday morning to keep me focused on what I’m doing. And I’m not going to tell you his name, not because I wouldn’t share, but because I don’t want all you guys trying to hire him, because that’s not his core business. But anyway, the next day I messaged Ryan I was like, “Dude, I need this guys info.” And he’s like, “Oh.” And then I messaged 50 other ways and finally Dave got a hold of him and two hours later I was on a call with him. During this call he literally did a laser coaching thing with me and I was like, “This is so awesome. I want this every week.” And it’s kind of funny, this isn’t his full time gig, doing coaching like that. He’s like, “Well, where do you want to go?” I’m like, “I want to write you a big check for money and then you do this every Monday morning for me.” And he’s like, “Okay.” So I did, I wrote him a check. And now next Monday I have my first actual thing and it’s so exciting. I’ve had different coaches in my life. I have a coach every Tuesday morning I meet with more on like, it’s Tara Williams, who is an energy coach, but it kind of goes in different directions, from spiritual to physical to mental to business to relationships, all over the place. So that’s one that touches on different areas of my life, but this is very specific on focus and intent and I’m so excited. I’m excited for that. I wish you guys could see how I was jumping around, crazy. I was so excited to give someone money to be able to coach me. Because it gets hard, the different levels you get to, it’s harder to find a coach who’s there, who can take you through a different aspect, so it’s just exciting for me. I’m so excited. In fact, that’s why as a coach, I obviously coach a lot of entrepreneurs, I don’t want my students or friends, whatever you want to call them. I want to keep progressing myself so that they keep having something to tap into, if that makes sense. I’ve had a lot of coaches throughout the years, that I came in and really quickly we met and then surpassed and I’m like, I can’t get stuff out of it. I don’t want my people ever feeling that way. That’s why I’m always pushing myself, pushing myself, pushing myself just so that I’m always as sharp as possible so I can keep serving and giving and coaching. But anyway, I’m just excited and what’s interesting, and this is the point of the podcast, not that you guys care that I hired a coach. But more so it’s because at the last Inner Circle meeting last week, we had 4 days of Inner Circle and I got 4 days next week too, I’m so excited. But what’s interesting, I watched a pattern. It was such an interesting pattern. First off, people in the inner circle are people who, they hear what I say, they do it and then they succeed. It’s really interesting. They hear what I say, they do it, and then they have success. Hear, do succeed. Hear, do, succeed. When I was wrestling, I remember one of my coaches telling me, “You’re one of the most coachable people I’ve ever had.” I said, “What do you mean?” “Well you hear what I say and then you go and do it. I literally between matches will show you your level was too high. You need to lower your levels, be moving more. Next match you’re doing that. Most people I tell them that over and over and it takes weeks or months or years to even attempt it. I tell you something and you just do it.” And I’m like, “Yeah, isn’t that how it should work?” You hear someone you trust, that you hired, that you are paying to be a coach, someone who is your coach, you hear them, you then do that thing, and you make money. Or you hear that thing, do it and then wrestle better. That’s the process. So the key first off, you gotta tap into somebody that you trust. Someone who you know is not going to lead you astray, someone who knows more than you do. So when you hear them, you’re not second guessing should I do that, should I not? You gotta pick the mentor that you have 100% faith and trust in. It could be me, someone else, I don’t care, just pick somebody where you’re like, I have absolute faith in that person’s opinion. Therefore I will do whatever they say. I will hear and then I will do and then I’ll have success. But what’s interesting is during this whole inner circle, again, I’m watching and most of these people, that’s who they are. They hear, they do, they succeed. That’s why there are able to afford 25 grand to come hang out with us a couple of times a year. That’s why they’re having success. But as I was watching, not all of them, but probably 60% of our inner circle members are also coaches in different markets, different industries, things like that. And what’s interesting is almost all of them said “I’ve got these students and they just hear what I say and do it and they have success. But I’ve got all these other ones who don’t.” And I was like, it’s so fascinating to me that people that have success what do they do. They heard, they did, they had success. The one’s who didn’t, they heard, they questioned, they thought about it, they flip flopped, they over analyzed, they studied something else, they did this, they….they get stuck in this thing in the middle that they don’t really hear. And it’s just so fascinating for me. Yesterday when I heard, two days ago when I heard that podcast and the second I heard it I was like, “I heard it, now I’m going to go do so I can be successful.” How am I going to do it? I know I’m going to forget or it’s going to be hard so I’m going to pay someone so I can do it. So I heard, did, boom now I guarantee you guys will see in the next 6 months, the changes in my company and hopefully in me personally because of this coaching. Again, I could have heard the podcast and thought about it and tried things, but no I heard it, I’m going to go do it and then I’m going to be successful. So if anything you get from this, there is a pattern of people who are successful in all areas of life. The pattern is number one, they find the mentor, the person, the coach, whatever they believe to get them where they are, and then they put on blinders. They hear, they do, they succeed. Hear, do, succeed. Hear, do, succeed. That’s it.  And if you’re not successful, something happened. Number one you picked the wrong mentor, so you picked someone you’re not really trusting or they have bad advice, bad strategy whatever. So if that’s the case, pick somebody that has the right strategy that you trust. That’s number one, so you do it. Number two, you have to listen to them. Now listening, I said this to one of my friends one time. There’s two types of listeners in the world, those who listen and those who wait to be heard. And a lot of you guys are hearing stuff, but you’re waiting to be…..You’re trying to inject this thing in the middle, and I don’t want you guys being the people who are waiting to be heard. You are hiring a coach so you can listen. So stop, get the right person with the right strategy, pay them whatever it takes, then listen. Listen. Even if you think you know a better way, you read a blog post or a book or someone who has a different…it doesn’t matter. There’s a million ways to skin a cat. Pick a strategy from a person and then listen to what they say, and then whatever they say, do it. That’s it, just do it. And then what will happen? You will have success. Listen, do, succeed. Listen, do, succeed. It’s a pretty simple strategy. It’s somewhere between the listening and the succeeding we get caught up trying to think or over analyze or whatever it is. In fact, it’s interesting, people that are really good at school typically, the reason I think they don’t succeed in this kind of world is because they listen and they analyze and think….it’s good to think for yourself, but you’re hiring someone who already thought through these things for you. Like this dude yesterday, I don’t know, I’m guessing he was surprised at how he said something and I’m like, “Okay, I’m doing it. Done.” I listen, I heard, I did. I’m not like, “Well, my company is bigger than yours and I did this…” or whatever. No, I listen, I do, I succeed. I trusted him enough to give him money, therefore I’m trusting his strategy with 100% certainty that this is the way. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have picked him, I wouldn’t have paid him, I wouldn’t have whatever. I chose that person, therefore I will listen with 100%, I have 100% certainty that everything he says is going to be truth, therefore I will listen, I will do and I will succeed. So this message is mostly for those of you guys who are struggling. My guess is that somewhere between this little chain that you’re missing. You picked the wrong person to tap into a strategy. But if you’re listening to this, you’re listening to me, so obviously you picked the right thing. So you got the right strategy to listen, do, and succeed. Boom, that’s it. I look at Brandon and Kaelin, literally Brandon and Kaelin come to every event, they’re at everything we do. They listen to every podcast, they’re probably listening to this right now smiling and saying, “Russell keeps dropping our name again.” They listen to everything. They picked somebody they trusted, they listen, and they do. I will literally be onstage at an event talking about a concept and I get off stage, and Brandon’s like, “hey that thing you just said, I just launched it.” I’m like, “What?” He’s like, “yeah, While you were talking I did it.” He’s listening, he did it, he’ll succeed. That’s why their company is going….. Everyone else in the room is sitting there listening, listening, taking notes, thinking about how cool it would be, and then they hang out in networking and they’re talking and….No, Brandon is there listening, doing and that’s why they’re so successful. So for you, look at that chain, there’s four elements. Pick the right mentor with the strategy and have absolute certainty in what they say, listen to what they’re saying, again listen, not waiting to be heard. Listen, then do it. Whatever they say, don’t even… Just do it. Just jump off the cliff. I trusted this person, therefore I will jump off the cliff if they tell me to. Just do it. And then get success. That’s it. That’s it, it is really that easy. So easy. It’s insanely easy. I don’t know why we keep complicating this. So don’t complicate it. If you do this thing and don’t have success, there’s somewhere in here, either you didn’t hear it right, or you didn’t do it right, or you picked the wrong strategy. If you get the right strategy up front, you listen and you do, then you’ll have success. It’s inevitable. You can’t not succeed. So there you go guys, I hope that helps. It should help you, but it should also help the people you’re coaching. It should help, so many ways. Understand that guys, that’s the key. So, I appreciate you all for listening and subscribing to the podcast. If you’re not subscribed yet, go to iTunes.com and subscribe or I guess marketingsecrets.com there’s a link to the iTunes, that might be easier. And then please rate, review, let us know, share this, if you got any benefit from this. Appreciate you all, thanks so much for everything and I will talk you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Listen, Do, Succeed (Revisited!) full 422 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Enjoy this replay of a special episode from a few years ago. Russell breaks down this simple 3 step system on how to be coachable. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What’s up... Enjoy this replay of a special episode from a few years ago. Russell breaks down this simple 3 step system on how to be coachable. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hey everyone, I’m really excited, I know I’m always excited, but today I’m especially excited because yesterday I hired a new coach. If you’ve been listening to the podcast for 5 years like you should have been, I’ve talked about this before in the past. But I’m a big, big, big, big believer in coaching. When I was wrestling I always had a coach, I usually had 3 or 4 coaches. I had a freestyle coach, Greco coach, nutrition coach, strength training coach. But sometimes we get in business and we’re like, “Oh we’re so smart, we don’t need coaches.” And no, you’re wrong. In fact, it’s kind of funny because a lot of people I know who are really successful in this business for a long time who no longer are, they’re like the last people to go and get coaching. It blows my mind, because they think they know how to do it all. I’m kind of at the top of my game right now, I don’t know, maybe it’ll go higher, but I definitely think I’m 9 ½ minutes into my 10 minutes of fame, what it is 15 minutes of fame, 14 ½ minutes in. So who knows when this whole thing will go down, but for me I’m at the peak of where I’ve ever wanted or dreamt of being. I’m still trying to find coaches to coach me in different areas of my life and different aspects and different things. I’ve had health coaches, business coaches, all sorts of stuff. Yesterday, actually two days ago I was listening to a podcast, actually the Freedom Fast Lane podcast by Ryan Moran, and he was doing a call with this dude, and the guy coached him through this thing on the podcast. I was like, that was insane. I said out loud that I want that guy to do that thing for me every Monday morning to keep me focused on what I’m doing. And I’m not going to tell you his name, not because I wouldn’t share, but because I don’t want all you guys trying to hire him, because that’s not his core business. But anyway, the next day I messaged Ryan I was like, “Dude, I need this guys info.” And he’s like, “Oh.” And then I messaged 50 other ways and finally Dave got a hold of him and two hours later I was on a call with him. During this call he literally did a laser coaching thing with me and I was like, “This is so awesome. I want this every week.” And it’s kind of funny, this isn’t his full time gig, doing coaching like that. He’s like, “Well, where do you want to go?” I’m like, “I want to write you a big check for money and then you do this every Monday morning for me.” And he’s like, “Okay.” So I did, I wrote him a check. And now next Monday I have my first actual thing and it’s so exciting. I’ve had different coaches in my life. I have a coach every Tuesday morning I meet with more on like, it’s Tara Williams, who is an energy coach, but it kind of goes in different directions, from spiritual to physical to mental to business to relationships, all over the place. So that’s one that touches on different areas of my life, but this is very specific on focus and intent and I’m so excited. I’m excited for that. I wish you guys could see how I was jumping around, crazy. I was so excited to give someone money to be able to coach me. Because it gets hard, the different levels you get to, it’s harder to find a coach who’s there, who can take you through a different aspect, so it’s just exciting for me. I’m so excited. In fact, that’s why as a coach, I obviously coach a lot of entrepreneurs, I don’t want my students or friends, whatever you want to call them. I want to keep progressing myself so that they keep having something to tap into, if that makes sense. I’ve had a lot of coaches throughout the years, that I came in and really quickly we met and then surpassed and I’m like, I can’t get stuff out of it. I don’t want my people ever feeling that way. That’s why I’m always pushing myself, pushing myself, pushing myself just so that I’m always as sharp as possible so I can keep serving and giving and coaching. But anyway, I’m just excited and what’s interesting, and this is the point of the podcast, not that you guys care that I hired a coach. But more so it’s because at the last Inner Circle meeting last week, we had 4 days of Inner Circle and I got 4 days next week too, I’m so excited. But what’s interesting, I watched a pattern. It was such an interesting pattern. First off, people in the inner circle are people who, they hear what I say, they do it and then they succeed. It’s really interesting. They hear what I say, they do it, and then they have success. Hear, do succeed. Hear, do, succeed. When I was wrestling, I remember one of my coaches telling me, “You’re one of the most coachable people I’ve ever had.” I said, “What do you mean?” “Well you hear what I say and then you go and do it. I literally between matches will show you your level was too high. You need to lower your levels, be moving more. Next match you’re doing that. Most people I tell them that over and over and it takes weeks or months or years to even attempt it. I tell you something and you just do it.” And I’m like, “Yeah, isn’t that how it should work?” You hear someone you trust, that you hired, that you are paying to be a coach, someone who is your coach, you hear them, you then do that thing, and you make money. Or you hear that thing, do it and then wrestle better. That’s the process. So the key first off, you gotta tap into somebody that you trust. Someone who you know is not going to lead you astray, someone who knows more than you do. So when you hear them, you’re not second guessing should I do that, should I not? You gotta pick the mentor that you have 100% faith and trust in. It could be me, someone else, I don’t care, just pick somebody where you’re like, I have absolute faith in that person’s opinion. Therefore I will do whatever they say. I will hear and then I will do and then I’ll have success. But what’s interesting is during this whole inner circle, again, I’m watching and most of these people, that’s who they are. They hear, they do, they succeed. That’s why there are able to afford 25 grand to come hang out with us a couple of times a year. That’s why they’re having success. But as I was watching, not all of them, but probably 60% of our inner circle members are also coaches in different markets, different industries, things like that. And what’s interesting is almost all of them said “I’ve got these students and they just hear what I say and do it and they have success. But I’ve got all these other ones who don’t.” And I was like, it’s so fascinating to me that people that have success what do they do. They heard, they did, they had success. The one’s who didn’t, they heard, they questioned, they thought about it, they flip flopped, they over analyzed, they studied something else, they did this, they….they get stuck in this thing in the middle that they don’t really hear. And it’s just so fascinating for me. Yesterday when I heard, two days ago when I heard that podcast and the second I heard it I was like, “I heard it, now I’m going to go do so I can be successful.” How am I going to do it? I know I’m going to forget or it’s going to be hard so I’m going to pay someone so I can do it. So I heard, did, boom now I guarantee you guys will see in the next 6 months, the changes in my company and hopefully in me personally because of this coaching. Again, I could have heard the podcast and thought about it and tried things, but no I heard it, I’m going to go do it and then I’m going to be successful. So if anything you get from this, there is a pattern of people who are successful in all areas of life. The pattern is number one, they find the mentor, the person, the coach, whatever they believe to get them where they are, and then they put on blinders. They hear, they do, they succeed. Hear, do, succeed. Hear, do, succeed. That’s it.  And if you’re not successful, something happened. Number one you picked the wrong mentor, so you picked someone you’re not really trusting or they have bad advice, bad strategy whatever. So if that’s the case, pick somebody that has the right strategy that you trust. That’s number one, so you do it. Number two, you have to listen to them. Now listening, I said this to one of my friends one time. There’s two types of listeners in the world, those who listen and those who wait to be heard. And a lot of you guys are hearing stuff, but you’re waiting to be…..You’re trying to inject this thing in the middle, and I don’t want you guys being the people who are waiting to be heard. You are hiring a coach so you can listen. So stop, get the right person with the right strategy, pay them whatever it takes, then listen. Listen. Even if you think you know a better way, you read a blog post or a book or someone who has a different…it doesn’t matter. There’s a million ways to skin a cat. Pick a strategy from a person and then listen to what they say, and then whatever they say, do it. That’s it, just do it. And then what will happen? You will have success. Listen, do, succeed. Listen, do, succeed. It’s a pretty simple strategy. It’s somewhere between the listening and the succeeding we get caught up trying to think or over analyze or whatever it is. In fact, it’s interesting, people that are really good at school typically, the reason I think they don’t succeed in this kind of world is because they listen and they analyze and think….it’s good to think for yourself, but you’re hiring someone who already thought through these things for you. Like this dude yesterday, I don’t know, I’m guessing he was surprised at how he said something and I’m like, “Okay, I’m doing it. Done.” I listen, I heard, I did. I’m not like, “Well, my company is bigger than yours and I did this…” or whatever. No, I listen, I do, I succeed. I trusted him enough to give him money, therefore I’m trusting his strategy with 100% certainty that this is the way. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have picked him, I wouldn’t have paid him, I wouldn’t have whatever. I chose that person, therefore I will listen with 100%, I have 100% certainty that everything he says is going to be truth, therefore I will listen, I will do and I will succeed. So this message is mostly for those of you guys who are struggling. My guess is that somewhere between this little chain that you’re missing. You picked the wrong person to tap into a strategy. But if you’re listening to this, you’re listening to me, so obviously you picked the right thing. So you got the right strategy to listen, do, and succeed. Boom, that’s it. I look at Brandon and Kaelin, literally Brandon and Kaelin come to every event, they’re at everything we do. They listen to every podcast, they’re probably listening to this right now smiling and saying, “Russell keeps dropping our name again.” They listen to everything. They picked somebody they trusted, they listen, and they do. I will literally be onstage at an event talking about a concept and I get off stage, and Brandon’s like, “hey that thing you just said, I just launched it.” I’m like, “What?” He’s like, “yeah, While you were talking I did it.” He’s listening, he did it, he’ll succeed. That’s why their company is going….. Everyone else in the room is sitting there listening, listening, taking notes, thinking about how cool it would be, and then they hang out in networking and they’re talking and….No, Brandon is there listening, doing and that’s why they’re so successful. So for you, look at that chain, there’s four elements. Pick the right mentor with the strategy and have absolute certainty in what they say, listen to what they’re saying, again listen, not waiting to be heard. Listen, then do it. Whatever they say, don’t even… Just do it. Just jump off the cliff. I trusted this person, therefore I will jump off the cliff if they tell me to. Just do it. And then get success. That’s it. That’s it, it is really that easy. So easy. It’s insanely easy. I don’t know why we keep complicating this. So don’t complicate it. If you do this thing and don’t have success, there’s somewhere in here, either you didn’t hear it right, or you didn’t do it right, or you picked the wrong strategy. If you get the right strategy up front, you listen and you do, then you’ll have success. It’s inevitable. You can’t not succeed. So there you go guys, I hope that helps. It should help you, but it should also help the people you’re coaching. It should help, so many ways. Understand that guys, that’s the key. So, I appreciate you all for listening and subscribing to the podcast. If you’re not subscribed yet, go to iTunes.com and subscribe or I guess marketingsecrets.com there’s a link to the iTunes, that might be easier. And then please rate, review, let us know, share this, if you got any benefit from this. Appreciate you all, thanks so much for everything and I will talk you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Enjoy this replay of a special episode from a few years ago. Russell breaks down this simple 3 step system on how to be coachable.

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---Transcript---

What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast.

Hey everyone, I’m really excited, I know I’m always excited, but today I’m especially excited because yesterday I hired a new coach. If you’ve been listening to the podcast for 5 years like you should have been, I’ve talked about this before in the past. But I’m a big, big, big, big believer in coaching. When I was wrestling I always had a coach, I usually had 3 or 4 coaches. I had a freestyle coach, Greco coach, nutrition coach, strength training coach. But sometimes we get in business and we’re like, “Oh we’re so smart, we don’t need coaches.” And no, you’re wrong.

In fact, it’s kind of funny because a lot of people I know who are really successful in this business for a long time who no longer are, they’re like the last people to go and get coaching. It blows my mind, because they think they know how to do it all. I’m kind of at the top of my game right now, I don’t know, maybe it’ll go higher, but I definitely think I’m 9 ½ minutes into my 10 minutes of fame, what it is 15 minutes of fame, 14 ½ minutes in.

So who knows when this whole thing will go down, but for me I’m at the peak of where I’ve ever wanted or dreamt of being. I’m still trying to find coaches to coach me in different areas of my life and different aspects and different things. I’ve had health coaches, business coaches, all sorts of stuff. Yesterday, actually two days ago I was listening to a podcast, actually the Freedom Fast Lane podcast by Ryan Moran, and he was doing a call with this dude, and the guy coached him through this thing on the podcast. I was like, that was insane. I said out loud that I want that guy to do that thing for me every Monday morning to keep me focused on what I’m doing.

And I’m not going to tell you his name, not because I wouldn’t share, but because I don’t want all you guys trying to hire him, because that’s not his core business. But anyway, the next day I messaged Ryan I was like, “Dude, I need this guys info.” And he’s like, “Oh.” And then I messaged 50 other ways and finally Dave got a hold of him and two hours later I was on a call with him. During this call he literally did a laser coaching thing with me and I was like, “This is so awesome. I want this every week.” And it’s kind of funny, this isn’t his full time gig, doing coaching like that. He’s like, “Well, where do you want to go?” I’m like, “I want to write you a big check for money and then you do this every Monday morning for me.” And he’s like, “Okay.” So I did, I wrote him a check. And now next Monday I have my first actual thing and it’s so exciting.

I’ve had different coaches in my life. I have a coach every Tuesday morning I meet with more on like, it’s Tara Williams, who is an energy coach, but it kind of goes in different directions, from spiritual to physical to mental to business to relationships, all over the place. So that’s one that touches on different areas of my life, but this is very specific on focus and intent and I’m so excited. I’m excited for that.

I wish you guys could see how I was jumping around, crazy. I was so excited to give someone money to be able to coach me. Because it gets hard, the different levels you get to, it’s harder to find a coach who’s there, who can take you through a different aspect, so it’s just exciting for me. I’m so excited. In fact, that’s why as a coach, I obviously coach a lot of entrepreneurs, I don’t want my students or friends, whatever you want to call them. I want to keep progressing myself so that they keep having something to tap into, if that makes sense.

I’ve had a lot of coaches throughout the years, that I came in and really quickly we met and then surpassed and I’m like, I can’t get stuff out of it. I don’t want my people ever feeling that way. That’s why I’m always pushing myself, pushing myself, pushing myself just so that I’m always as sharp as possible so I can keep serving and giving and coaching.

But anyway, I’m just excited and what’s interesting, and this is the point of the podcast, not that you guys care that I hired a coach. But more so it’s because at the last Inner Circle meeting last week, we had 4 days of Inner Circle and I got 4 days next week too, I’m so excited. But what’s interesting, I watched a pattern. It was such an interesting pattern.

First off, people in the inner circle are people who, they hear what I say, they do it and then they succeed. It’s really interesting. They hear what I say, they do it, and then they have success. Hear, do succeed. Hear, do, succeed. When I was wrestling, I remember one of my coaches telling me, “You’re one of the most coachable people I’ve ever had.” I said, “What do you mean?” “Well you hear what I say and then you go and do it. I literally between matches will show you your level was too high. You need to lower your levels, be moving more. Next match you’re doing that. Most people I tell them that over and over and it takes weeks or months or years to even attempt it. I tell you something and you just do it.” And I’m like, “Yeah, isn’t that how it should work?” You hear someone you trust, that you hired, that you are paying to be a coach, someone who is your coach, you hear them, you then do that thing, and you make money. Or you hear that thing, do it and then wrestle better. That’s the process.

So the key first off, you gotta tap into somebody that you trust. Someone who you know is not going to lead you astray, someone who knows more than you do. So when you hear them, you’re not second guessing should I do that, should I not? You gotta pick the mentor that you have 100% faith and trust in. It could be me, someone else, I don’t care, just pick somebody where you’re like, I have absolute faith in that person’s opinion. Therefore I will do whatever they say. I will hear and then I will do and then I’ll have success.

But what’s interesting is during this whole inner circle, again, I’m watching and most of these people, that’s who they are. They hear, they do, they succeed. That’s why there are able to afford 25 grand to come hang out with us a couple of times a year. That’s why they’re having success. But as I was watching, not all of them, but probably 60% of our inner circle members are also coaches in different markets, different industries, things like that. And what’s interesting is almost all of them said “I’ve got these students and they just hear what I say and do it and they have success. But I’ve got all these other ones who don’t.” And I was like, it’s so fascinating to me that people that have success what do they do. They heard, they did, they had success. The one’s who didn’t, they heard, they questioned, they thought about it, they flip flopped, they over analyzed, they studied something else, they did this, they….they get stuck in this thing in the middle that they don’t really hear.

And it’s just so fascinating for me. Yesterday when I heard, two days ago when I heard that podcast and the second I heard it I was like, “I heard it, now I’m going to go do so I can be successful.” How am I going to do it? I know I’m going to forget or it’s going to be hard so I’m going to pay someone so I can do it. So I heard, did, boom now I guarantee you guys will see in the next 6 months, the changes in my company and hopefully in me personally because of this coaching.

Again, I could have heard the podcast and thought about it and tried things, but no I heard it, I’m going to go do it and then I’m going to be successful. So if anything you get from this, there is a pattern of people who are successful in all areas of life. The pattern is number one, they find the mentor, the person, the coach, whatever they believe to get them where they are, and then they put on blinders. They hear, they do, they succeed. Hear, do, succeed. Hear, do, succeed. That’s it.

 And if you’re not successful, something happened. Number one you picked the wrong mentor, so you picked someone you’re not really trusting or they have bad advice, bad strategy whatever. So if that’s the case, pick somebody that has the right strategy that you trust. That’s number one, so you do it. Number two, you have to listen to them. Now listening, I said this to one of my friends one time. There’s two types of listeners in the world, those who listen and those who wait to be heard. And a lot of you guys are hearing stuff, but you’re waiting to be…..You’re trying to inject this thing in the middle, and I don’t want you guys being the people who are waiting to be heard. You are hiring a coach so you can listen.

So stop, get the right person with the right strategy, pay them whatever it takes, then listen. Listen. Even if you think you know a better way, you read a blog post or a book or someone who has a different…it doesn’t matter. There’s a million ways to skin a cat. Pick a strategy from a person and then listen to what they say, and then whatever they say, do it. That’s it, just do it. And then what will happen? You will have success. Listen, do, succeed. Listen, do, succeed. It’s a pretty simple strategy. It’s somewhere between the listening and the succeeding we get caught up trying to think or over analyze or whatever it is.

In fact, it’s interesting, people that are really good at school typically, the reason I think they don’t succeed in this kind of world is because they listen and they analyze and think….it’s good to think for yourself, but you’re hiring someone who already thought through these things for you. Like this dude yesterday, I don’t know, I’m guessing he was surprised at how he said something and I’m like, “Okay, I’m doing it. Done.” I listen, I heard, I did. I’m not like, “Well, my company is bigger than yours and I did this…” or whatever. No, I listen, I do, I succeed. I trusted him enough to give him money, therefore I’m trusting his strategy with 100% certainty that this is the way. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have picked him, I wouldn’t have paid him, I wouldn’t have whatever. I chose that person, therefore I will listen with 100%, I have 100% certainty that everything he says is going to be truth, therefore I will listen, I will do and I will succeed.

So this message is mostly for those of you guys who are struggling. My guess is that somewhere between this little chain that you’re missing. You picked the wrong person to tap into a strategy. But if you’re listening to this, you’re listening to me, so obviously you picked the right thing. So you got the right strategy to listen, do, and succeed. Boom, that’s it.

I look at Brandon and Kaelin, literally Brandon and Kaelin come to every event, they’re at everything we do. They listen to every podcast, they’re probably listening to this right now smiling and saying, “Russell keeps dropping our name again.” They listen to everything. They picked somebody they trusted, they listen, and they do. I will literally be onstage at an event talking about a concept and I get off stage, and Brandon’s like, “hey that thing you just said, I just launched it.” I’m like, “What?” He’s like, “yeah, While you were talking I did it.” He’s listening, he did it, he’ll succeed. That’s why their company is going…..

Everyone else in the room is sitting there listening, listening, taking notes, thinking about how cool it would be, and then they hang out in networking and they’re talking and….No, Brandon is there listening, doing and that’s why they’re so successful.

So for you, look at that chain, there’s four elements. Pick the right mentor with the strategy and have absolute certainty in what they say, listen to what they’re saying, again listen, not waiting to be heard. Listen, then do it. Whatever they say, don’t even… Just do it. Just jump off the cliff. I trusted this person, therefore I will jump off the cliff if they tell me to. Just do it. And then get success. That’s it. That’s it, it is really that easy. So easy. It’s insanely easy. I don’t know why we keep complicating this. So don’t complicate it.

If you do this thing and don’t have success, there’s somewhere in here, either you didn’t hear it right, or you didn’t do it right, or you picked the wrong strategy. If you get the right strategy up front, you listen and you do, then you’ll have success. It’s inevitable. You can’t not succeed.

So there you go guys, I hope that helps. It should help you, but it should also help the people you’re coaching. It should help, so many ways. Understand that guys, that’s the key. So, I appreciate you all for listening and subscribing to the podcast. If you’re not subscribed yet, go to iTunes.com and subscribe or I guess marketingsecrets.com there’s a link to the iTunes, that might be easier. And then please rate, review, let us know, share this, if you got any benefit from this. Appreciate you all, thanks so much for everything and I will talk you all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 826 no The Roundtable of World Changers (Part 4 of 4) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-roundtable-of-world-changers-part-4-of-4 The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy the final section of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to introduce you to the exciting conclusion of our World Changers Roundtable podcast. This has been the last three episodes you've had chance to listen to them behind the scenes as Matt Maddix and his son, Caleb, and a bunch of amazing people asked us a ton of questions, and I hope you've been enjoying them. Now, as I told you guys earlier, this interview went for almost four hours. This next episode is about 45 minutes or so long, actually technically 43 minutes. And for the most part, the interview is great, except for, I think that by that time of night, the batteries and the microphone started dying. And so towards the end, some of the audio is not as clear as possible. So you have two choices. Number one, is listen to it and be like, "Oh, it's all right." Or number two, when you get to the bad audio, just skip to the next podcast. But there's some really cool stuff that happens during that time. So I didn't want to just cut it out because I thought it's just really good stuff I think you're going to enjoy. So some things to talk about on this episode is my morning routine. Like, what does it look like? How do I do it? How do I shift it around? Another one is I talked about my mission. A lot of you guys know I served a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I spent two years in Jersey knocking doors and I talked about what I learned from that and like the experiences and things like that. We spent a lot of times talking about Operation Underground Railroad and how I got involved and some of the inspiration that came, that led me down the direction we did with that. I talked about Tim Ballard and some of what he has to deal with as running Operation Underground Railroad and how people are fighting against him and the amazing mission he's doing and how you'll see no matter what mission you're trying to accomplish, Satan and the adversary are always trying to fight against as well. And we talked about how the fact that as you're publishing and you're sharing... One of my big beliefs that comes from scriptures, that your sheep will hear your voice. And so, there's a lot of cool things and steps. We always talk about owning the devil towards the end. And then we talked about some of the experiences feeding the homeless and the kids and a whole bunch of other stuff. So, anyway, I hope you enjoy this episode. I apologize that some of the audio cuts out at the end, but, you know, battery life. We should be upset at the people who make Lav mic batteries because they're the ones whose batteries died. No, just joking. But for the most part, hopefully you have a chance to hear it and get some good value from it. Again, I hope you enjoyed this series. We had so much fun doing the interview, and hopefully you got a ton of value for you and for your family. And let me know if you want more of this kind of stuff, this is different than my traditional Marketing Secrets podcast, but hopefully you loved it. If you did, let us know, and we'll continue to make more content like this as well. With that said, we can keep the theme song, we'll jump into four of four of the World Changers podcast interview. Speaker 2: So I just want to know your daily routine. I just really been getting into my spiritual side, right. Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Speaker 2: So just tapping into that, more of the importance of that and doing the morning, and if you do anything. Russell: Yeah, for me, it's- Speaker 3: Good question. Russell: ... weird because one of my close buddies, his morning routine is like four hours long. He literally said it to me. I was like, "Oh my gosh." But he has no kids. And so it's tough because I got five kids. So by seven o'clock it's on. It's on like Donkey Kong. It's crazy. It's like kids and food and... So it's like if I have a morning routine at half 7:00, before 7:00, it doesn't happen. And so, it depends. I go through different cycles. Sometimes if I'm writing, I'll get up at 5:00 because that's like really good time from 5:00 till 7:00 when I'm writing. If I'm not writing usually closer to 6:00 and that's the time where I'm reading. I've never got into meditation, but I do read scriptures. I read things. I want to, I've never had... I need someone to give me a meditation experience that's like magical. Do you know what I mean? I've tried before, I get the apps or whatever. And I'm like, I feel... or whatever. So I would love to go somewhere and have like a really cool... I've just never had one yet. So it's not part of what I do yet. And I take a lot of supplements. So, after my nighttime, I try to put as much supplements into my body as possible- Speaker 4: What do you take? Russell: A lot. I could show you the list. There's a lot. Speaker 4: Okay. Matt: Well we do know that protein ice cream is one of them, just to let you know. Speaker 5: How did you develop your supplement line? Do you have like a DNA doctor or... Russell: Anthony DiClementi has helped me a lot. I think he's cool. I've done blood tests and stuff like that to shift things. I read a lot, study a lot, try things, test things, see what helps, what doesn't. So, I like having just supplements for my body from morning till noon, just because... I don't know, I feel like it's just absorbing all the amazingness from them. And then seven o'clock hits and that's when it's just like, all right from 7:00 till about 8:30, it's like getting kids ready, driving kids to school. My kids are in four different schools, so it's here, there, back and forth, all sorts of stuff. Male: Do you take them? Russell: Yeah, I love it. We do, but I love driving to school. It's my favorite part. Because it's like... Anyway, yeah, I fight to drive them. It's like, sometimes they can bring their friends with them. So I get to hear them talk with their friends. And it's just like a cool time, I get to see them go to school. And I don't know, they're just so cute. They jump out and they try to be all cool when they walk in. It's just, I don't know- Matt: It's a bonding time. It's driving your kids to school. Russell: Yeah. And I try to get them in a good state, try to listen to music because school's horrible. I don't know about... I hated school. Matt: Ahh damn, me too. Russell: And I know I'm about to send them to the thing I hated the most. So I'm like I need to get them in a good state to listen to music, this type of thing. What are you most excited about after school? And trying to give them something so when they send them to like- Male: Prison. Russell: ... Oh yeah. And then, so right now I'm wrestling. I have a tournament next week and I'm wrestling. And so- Caleb: When can we all watch it? Russell: I'll send you the footage afterwards… Matt: We need a private Facebook group, man, where you can Facebook live just as a group. Russell: We're filming it. If I do all right, I'll show you guys. Male: Okay. Russell: So right now, at 8:30 at home, and then one of my wrestling buddies shows up. So from 8:30 to 9:00 we wrestle and just beat the crap out of each other, which is like awesome. When we weren't wrestling it was lifting and stuff like that. And then from then I got like all my focus times done, supplementation, kid time, workout. And then I go to the office and that's where my team time's there. So I got a team, that's where we'll be building stuff, a lot of people and- Female: What time? Russell: Let's see 8:30 to 9:30. It's about 10:00, 10:30-ish, I'll show up, a lot of them will show up. And that's when we're doing more stuff together. I mean, it just depends on... He's got crazy ideas and wants to stay later or whatever. But yeah, I use that and then I get home and I try to play dad from then till about 9:00, taking the young kids to bed by 9:00, and then the older kids are a little later. 9:00 till we pass out and my wife and I can actually spend some time together. Male: Do you work on Sundays or not really? Russell: I have a church calling and so I'm doing a lot of social media missionary work and generate leads for the church and stuff. So I do that on Sunday, but it's all focused on church stuff. Male: You did the 2 year missionary thing. Where'd you go? Russell: New Jersey. Male: ... and how was it? Russell: It was amazing. Male: What did you think about it. What'd you- Russell: It was the greatest experience of my life. I was telling these guys yesterday... Typically in someone's life it's the most selfish time of your life. 19 years old, what do most 19 year olds do? Like you're thinking about yourself and your… Yeah. So, it's like you literally are taken from that, you're shipped across the country, across the world. They get rid of your name. You're no longer Russell. I became elder, Elder Brunson. White shirt, white tie, yeah. No, I'm not an elder anymore. I'm not an elder anymore. I got released. But yeah, there's no dating. There's no calling home, none of that stuff. So you're in a spot where you can't do anything for yourself for two years. You can only serve other people. And most people are angry at you for even doing it. And so it's like just a really cool experience where it's not about you for two years. And imagine the shift that makes in your life where now it's like you come back and it's like... Anyway, it shifts everything, there's no way- Matt: Yeah, because like you were saying to us, if you can... The best training is gospel work, man, is out there talking to people about Jesus- Russell: Do you want to hear my pitch? Matt: ... Huh? Group: Yeah. Russell: This isn't the real pitch, but this is like... I mean, think about it. It's you knock on their door and you're like, "All right, this is the deal. If you give up alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea, all premarital and extramarital sex, and 10% of your income for the rest of your life, you may get salvation if you don't screw up." Like that's the offer. Male: Damn. Russell: So you get home from that and you're like, "I got to sell software. I got to sell Cutco knives." So like pastoral is super easy. That's why all door-to-door salesmen were Mormons. All the companies recruit out of Utah, almost all network marketing companies are founded by Mormons. We love selling. You get home, it's like, "I can use these powers for evil. This is amazing." It's awesome. Female: So say that one more time. You went so fast. That was great. What was it? Russell: Alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea, or premarital and extramarital sex, extra like other partners. You can have sex with your wife all you want. And 10% of your income for the rest of your life. Matt: And then you may make it if you don't screw up. How do you say it? Russell: Yeah. You may get salvation if you don't screw up- Male: If you do all that, you can still make it, is what you're saying. Russell: ... But that's the offer, yeah. Male: Wow. Russell: Give up all those things. Male: What do you think is the most important problem and not being solved today? Or you think needs more attention? Matt: Good question. I would love to end on human trafficking. Russell: That was good. Actually, I literally didn't go. Human trafficking is... I mean, I can't think of anything worse than that. You know what I mean? Like, I- Matt: I'd love for you to share your experiences with Operation Underground. Just some of the behind the scenes, whatever you can. And just some of the stories you've heard and just kind of like why you got into it. Russell: Yeah. That organization is amazing. Tim Ballard is like an angel. I don't know. Matt: Yeah. Russell: And I feel bad for him because he's in a spot where literally Satan is trying to destroy him. So he is giving his life, his blood, his sweat, his tears, like literally putting his life on the line every single day. And you have good intentioned people from around the world trying to destroy him. And so it's like, can you imagine that? Like you're going into the deepest, darkest parts of hell and trying to save little children and that's not the scariest thing. Then you get people attacking you and your character and your family and your life. There's a special place in heaven for him. Matt: Yeah, I agree. Russell: He's an amazing human. And so that's what I lead with. But then, man, it's been cool being on this journey just because I believed in miracles before, but the stories, when you hear them coming back from these raids and these missions and the miracles that happen consistently over and over and over again, it's just like... It says in the scriptures, "All things denote that there's a God." And you see these things consistently happening. Like God's hand is in it. The way I got involved in this whole... It's crazy because I told you, I got a call one day from somebody asked me to be a part of it and I was like, "Yeah, I'd love to help." And so, the first thing I did is, my ego is like oh, I know how to solve this problem. So I'm like, "Okay, we're going to build a funnel." We mapped it out and this whole thing. And I'm supposed to go to Utah to present this to all the guys. And I'm totally in my... Trying to serve, but also at the same time, like, "I know how to do this. This is my thing." Matt: Yeah, you're the- Russell: Yeah. And I didn't ask God for advice or opinion. I was just like, "Got it. I'm here. I'm going to do this thing." And it's crazy, the day I'm supposed to be driving to Utah, that morning in the shower and I just had this uneasy feeling like... And first time, am I nervous? I'm nervous. Obviously I'm going to be presenting this. What if they don't like it, whatever? But it was more than that. It was just like, "Ah, something's not..." I don't know something's just not quite right. So finally, I broke down and prayed. I'm presenting this to these guys, is this the right thing? Would you have me do something different? And I don't know if you guys have felt like inspiration from God before, whatever, it is weird and powerful. In that moment it literally was just like, "That's not what you're supposed to do." And I'm like, "What?" And it was like, "You're supposed to be building a documentary. And Nick Nanton is going to help you film it." And I was like, "Nick Nanton?" I met the guy once six years earlier, in passing at a Genius Network event. Maybe said three words to him. I was like, "I don't know if he knows who I am." And so, I'm sitting there, I literally just got out of the shower. My towel's on, I was like, "Nick Nanton?" So, I find Facebook, I'm like, "I don't know if we're Facebook friends," and we were. So I was like, send an audio, "Hey man, I don't know if you know who I am or not. But we met one time. I know your documentaries, you're really good at it. So this is crazy. But I don't know if you believe in God or whatever, but I just had this impression I'm going down today to Utah to present this thing, Operational Underground Railroad. I don't know if you've heard of it, you should go look it up. But I had a very, very distinct impression that you were supposed to film a documentary for these guys that's going to change... It's going to save a bunch of kids. Do you want to help?" And that was the message. And I sent it. And I was like, "Oh," started getting dressed. And then come back a bit later on, on the phone there's a message back from him. He's like, "Dude, I just looked it up," He was like, "I don't know what this is," but he's like, "if you'll cover the hard costs for my team to produce this, I'll do everything else for free. I won't take any royalties, any extras, I'm 100% in." Matt: Wow. Male: Wow. Russell: And I was like, "Okay." And so then I called Jake, my designer, like, "Could you make a DVD cover of a movie because we're about to pitch a movie instead of... It could be a design idea, here's the funnel." Like, "We're not doing any of that." So they're designing the stuff. It's crazy- Matt: This is the day of? Russell: ... Yeah. So we're driving down to Utah and anyway, we present it to these guys and it's just crazy. We present it, we filled with the Spirit like it's super powerful. And then we got to make a documentary. So Nick Nanton sinks these guys and like so many miracles are mysterious, crazy. So they were trying to go... They want to go to Haiti because... Have you guys all seen the Operation Toussaint documentary? Male: Yes. Russell: Okay, if you haven't, it'll change your life forever. This is the story- Male: Have you seen it? Russell: ... It's the whole Operation Underground Railroad story. And the main story is about this little kid named Gardy, who was stolen from... It was actually a church, his church, his dad was the Bishop of the church and his dad actually owned a business. And he'd fired one of his employees and his employees came to church and knew the kid and was like, "Oh, come here." And to get back at his dad for firing him takes him out and gives him to some people, just to mess with him. And the people were traffickers, took the kid off, shipped him out. And anyway, crazy. Anyway, there's so many stories I could tell you. But anyway, so they went down to go interview Guesno Mardy who's the father because that's how Operation Underground Railroad started because this family, this kid. So we go down to interview him. And as they're interviewing him, a year earlier, Tony Robbins actually went on a sting operation with him to Haiti- Matt: I want to hear about that a little bit. Russell: ... I don't know much about it. I just know that I saw a picture of him, he's undercover, he had a beard on, he was in a boat. So Tony went on this thing, they arrested all these traffickers on Superbowl Sunday, arrested all these traffickers. And like three months later, the government let them off. Matt: At the Superbowl, the government, what? Russell: No, it was Superbowl Sunday and Tony was in the boat, with Tim, those guys, arresting all the people. And anyway, so they arrested all these people, Tony was there, it was amazing. But there's so much corruption in the Haitian government. So they paid off the people and they let them all go. And so what's crazy is that we're trying to recapture these people, all sorts of stuff. And anyway, so long story short, Nick Nanton's team fly down to go interview Guesno Mardy. So, fly down to interview Guesno Mardy and they're sitting there interviewing him and all of a sudden Tim gets this thing like we found the head lady of the brothel. We located, we know exactly where she's at. We know where all the girls are at. They refound the people from when Tony did the arrest. And so, Nick's here filming this testimonial video and they're like, "We're going to arrest her tonight. Do you want to be part of it?" And he's like, "What?" And so they get the cameras out and everything. And Nick's undercover, his whole team. Like a bunch of videographers has showed up and now they're undercover in bulletproof vests and so crazy. But anyway, they're going to arrest these... We have all the footage. If you've seen the documentary, you see all the footage of the stuff they just happened... They were not planning on capturing any of the arrests or anything, it just happened because they were there. And one of the really cool stories that Tim told me is that as they were pulling up to go arrest her, they're pulling up in the minivan and they've got GoPros hooked everything there, they're filming stuff. And this guy was like, "I need a GoPro on my helmet." And they're like, "We're jumping in the car in 30 seconds to arrest... " And his guy's like, "You have to run right now. I just have this feeling. You have to put the GoPro on my helmet." Like, "Dude, we don't have time to find..." Fine, so they duct tape a GoPro on a thing, click record. And they go, jump out, they arrest this girl. And what happened in the arrest, they arrest the girl, and as they're arresting them, they find her, she's the kingpin of the whole thing. They arrest her, some of the people around, they don't know where the brothel is. And this guy looks over and he sees this little kid like looking out a door and then he goes back in and like, "I wonder if that's her brothel." So he runs over there and comes in to the brothel and walks in and finds all of these men raping kids, like in the act. And so people start jumping up and running out and he's like... We're trying to capture people, they all escape. Anyway, it comes out of the things, we found the brothel, we saw the people and it's this horrible thing. And Tim walks over and looks up and he's like, "Dude, look at your helmet." And the GoPros they're flashing and they had video... Like you walked in and saw every single trafficker's face as you walked around the thing. They had the things, they were going there to arrest them. Matt: Chills. Russell: And there's so many crazy experiences like that, that happened in every single way. They're crazy, they're just insane things. Every time he comes back, I talk to him like, "Tell me another story." He tells you stories. There's so many miracles that happen just on these journeys and these missions that are... It's just crazy. So anyway, it's powerful. I don't know, it's like the plague of our lifetimes that we've got to figure out how to solve. And I was telling Caleb and Matt, we've got a big project we're working on called the Save a Child Challenge where we're rolling out soon, that I think is going to be- Matt: You'll love this. Russell: Anyway. It's going to be big what we're going to be trying to do, but it's trying to shine a huge light on this problem. And we may roll out at Funnel Hacking Live. Matt: Can I ask you a question, spiritually, when you start getting involved in this, you were talking and sharing with us a little bit yesterday which is some spiritual wisdom because I always say new levels, new devils, but that's a territory that as you know, I mean, when you start getting in that, that's like Satan's number one playground. To me, that's like the whole reason we're going through what we're going through right now is because of the fight over the purity of our children in the future. So, what have you seen Tim go through? Or whoever involved? I know you've had some stories too, man. What are some things that you've seen? And then what's your advice to people that get involved or want to get involved? Maybe tell a few stories. Russell: I'm trying to think what would be the right ones. It's weird, like a lot of people who've gotten involved in the organization, they get involved, I think, initially for pure reasons. And then things happen. Like initially they actually filmed the whole documentary and documentary series before we started working with them. And the people capture all this footage and then they went insane. It's like just crazy. They wouldn't give the footage, or wanted money, all these things. It was just like when we went to Tim, like the biggest thing is Nick Nanton was like, "There's no money in this for me at all. This is at cost. This is pro bono. This is everything. You own the rights, you can do whatever you want with it." We're the same way. We came in like, "We're doing this. I want to make sure there's no way that I could ever make money off of this. I don't want any..." And I think it's like... I don't know, people go into these things like looking for how can we make money on this? And it's just crazy. It's insane. I can't fathom it, but it's just crazy. And since I've been around them, I've seen it happen four or five times, people come in, somebody will have good intentions, they come and do something and then they're like... It's just crazy. I can't even fathom it. And then it's funny because I've watched him, he's been so protective of funds. He looks like he's the guardian of the money that people come in. This is a sacred stewardship for him. And so much like, their family literally lives in poverty. We chipped in and helped buy them a van because they brought home two Haitian kids they adopted and they needed a bigger car. And like he writes books to be able to fund things. He gets $0 salary from OUR. He also became the head of The Nazareen Fund for Glenn Beck. He's the CEO of The Nazareen Fund. So he's running these huge charities, huge organizations, gets $0 salary, but he writes these books so his family could eat. He does these different things. And so you got people coming in like, "Oh, he's just doing this to sell his books, all these things." He's just like- Matt: God bless him, man. Russell: "Literally I'm trying to feed my family and I'm working for free saving thousands of kids." And just like crazy- Matt: Going places nobody else will go. Russell: And so you see people attacking him. In Utah it's on the news. Like, "Oh..." It's just insane to me. And so it's like the more pure, the more good you're trying to do, it's like swimming upstream. And so it's just like, "Man, we need more of us. People like us who love, who understand, who care, who are on the same mission to help support and help push. Because I can't imagine swimming that stream by myself." You know what I mean? Male: It's easier not to get involved. Matt: Yeah, exactly. Male: It's easier to stay out of it and keep... Because once you get dug into that... Oh, just thinking about it just makes me sick. Female: How do you get involved? Male: Oh, there's so many ways and we'll talk about it after, but there's just... With Tim, here's what's crazy is, we've worked with OUR and the things that we did out here, and it's crazy how I heard stories about Tim that people would make up stories about how he's this person and he's involved in this and he's in... And you're like, "How sick." I mean, you're talking about satanic, like where people take somebody doing something so beautiful and you start hearing this person's involved in this. And somebody says something about me. And then I got one of the most powerful people in Arizona making a comment about me. And you're just like, "This is..." You're doing good, this guy's doing good. He sacrificed, he's put himself in harm's way. And it's disgusting. I was once asked by a reporter, they said... They tried to make me out to be conspiracy theorist about child sex trafficking. Of course it was never anything good. And they go, "Do you think anybody higher ups involved?" And I said, "Really? If you and I don't pay our taxes, do they send us a letter or they show up at our door, IRS?" Yeah. I said, "How does $150 billion industry go untaxed?" And he was just like, "Okay." And he changed the whole topic. The reporter didn't want to report on that. And then, they attack, they attack, they attacked. And from our rallies that we did last year, along with OUR, worked hand in hand with them, love, amazing. I had one of the guys from the Dream Center, one of the largest rehab centers come up to me just the other week. I met him at an event and he said, “Adel, I know who you are." And I was like, "Really?" He's like, "Yeah," he's like, "you have no idea just from doing what you guys did the amount of money that was donated to our center." I said, "Really? Because they were writing how bad we were for raising awareness about child sex trafficking." He said, "Man, we could have spent millions of dollars on marketing and withdrawn so much money." He's like, "I have to take you out." I said, "I don't want you to take me out." I said, "Thank God." I said, "You just made my night, man. That was the best thing I've ever heard that just..." And he was like, "No, you have no idea. I seriously can't even tell you how much money it brought in." He's like, Mommas Miracle Movement, started emailing all those people," I was like, "Yeah." He's like, "They changed everything." So, my point being is, it's easier not to get involved with child sex trafficking because you get in there and you start... One day before a rally, one of my family members got exploited on social media and it's crazy because it had never happened. And as you're doing a rally, thousands of people showing up raising money, doing this and that, next thing, you know what happens, it's somebody in my family. And I get a message... Matt: Yeah, he packs the rallies here, y'all. You need to go to one of his rallies, they're powerful, if you've ever been… Male: That's just evil. But I don't want to take away from what you're saying… But, God bless you, man, for fighting with them and doing everything. Because that's what we're doing, God's work at the end of the day and that's all you're going to do. Matt: Yeah. And it's exciting to see other people involved, young men out there. So what grabbed your heart on it? What was the initial like, "I'm going to do something. I'm not just going to stand back"? Russell: I didn't know about it. We were wanting to get involved, it kind of explained a little bit. And so, that night I remember going online and reading about it and watching some videos and stuff. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I had no idea that any of this was happening." And how can you not after you... I remember that night I was vlogging, I said to someone, I was like, "I'm pretty sure this is going to change the direction of my life forever." Matt: Did you feel that? Russell: Yeah. It was just like, "How can you not?" If your kid was taken, what would you do? I can't imagine that. When someone says something mean to my kids, I'm ready to go blow up the school, you know what I mean? Matt: Do you think it's going to come to a point... I agree. Do you think it's going to come to... The world has to shut down until we find these kids. In other words- Russell: Christ has to come again. Matt: Yeah. Russell: I mean, honestly. Matt: Yeah. Russell: Until he comes again, it's… do our best until... Anyway. Matt: But I'm talking in my life, where I'm talking about nothing about shutting, I'm talking about, where we all say... You know how if a child comes up missing everybody in the community will come together to where we say, "Okay, for the next 30 days, every veteran, every person that believes in children and our future, we're going to use every ounce of energy and focus to find these children because there's got to be a way. There's got to be a way, isn't there? Or are they just locked up? Is it just too hard?" Russell: I don't know. The most of it, it's tough because they don't... That was my big fear initially when I got involved with Tim. I was just like, "If somebody had stole my kid..." And he's like, "That's not how it works." He's like, "It happens sometimes." Because the traffickers don't want to pick a high profile person with a bunch of monies and they can search you and take you out. He's like, "The kids they exploit, because they take the ones that don't have parents, the parents don't have money. They don't have the resources. They can take them, there's not implications, because they just want to sell the kid. They make the money selling their product." So it's like they're not looking for... The people they go after, people that don't have a voice, they can't fight back. It's like that's where a lot of that stuff's happening. And it's the Americans who are flying to different places, different countries to where they can... Yeah, that's what's messed up. The Americans are the ones who are the- Matt: Do you think you'll ever go on a mission or- Russell: ... We're planning on going... I was supposed to go on one this year with them and then COVID hit and I've been nervous. Because that's the thing is like, you watched it on film and it's horrible. I can't imagine seeing the kids. I don't know. But at the same time, you'll get the work of the Village Impact. We donated money to Village Impact and then when I went there and experienced it, it changed me, man. It became part of me, you know what I mean? So part of me wants to do that because I feel like for me to be able to help next level, it has to… Yeah, you have to sit in the pain to be able to figure out a solution, as hard as that is. So I think I will, at some point. Matt: Did you feel the... Speaking of the Atlas, that's probably one of the things where Atlas, I felt that. Male: Yeah, I know I did. Matt: Yeah. And you, I mean, and I just wondered, like you said, you feel like you could do so much, and then you look at... You ever meet Jaco Booyens? Russell: Mm-mm (negative). Matt: Do you know who he is? He was on the White House Sex Trafficking Council. His sister was rescued. I think he rescued her after 26 years or something- Russell: Oh, wow. Matt: ... Something crazy, great guy. But he's been fighting for a long time. I remember when we first got into it, he was just like, "Man, you can literally want to do everything," but he's like, "you just have to focus on some part because there's so much to this." And I don't know, did you feel that too, as being involved? Because you feel like you're so powerful in a lot of things you can do when you talk about inspiring entrepreneurs, but how does it feel despite what do you- Russell: There's something like, whatever, two million children are done, it's like I think I said... When I met OUR they helped 1,000 kids. Now you have like four or 5,000- Matt: Think about that. 1,000 kids. Russell: ... And it's amazing being like two million. Matt: 1,000. So, there's still two million you're saying. Male: I really love how you're so open about your faith and it's really something that's evident in everything you do. So I just wanted to ask where that really comes from, in your life? Russell: A couple of things. One, yeah, I honestly believe it's true. So, that's important. Number two, I feel like if I don't acknowledge His hand in what's happening, like... And as a father now it's weird but I think one of the reasons why God has us be parents is because we get a little glimpse of ourselves. Like I look at my kids, I can give them everything in the world and like made, and all of something that I do it means the world. If I don't, it's just like, it hurts. And it's like, I feel like if I don't acknowledge the gifts, like, I don't think you have your gifts. You know what I mean? I'm a big believer that... I think all of us as we, especially in this entrepreneur world, but in all parts of life, it's like I'm looking for the next step and the ideas and things like that. And it's not something I'm remembering, it's like things are being handed. So it's like, where's that coming from? It's not my own. I never read a book that said this was the path, but it's showing up. Like the answer's there. It's coming from God. And I feel like God gives us ideas. And then we're either a good steward of those ideas or we’re bad. Like we take it and we do something with it, then he gives us more. And if we do something again, like it keeps moving forward. And it's just like, I feel like if we don't acknowledge Him, if we're not grateful for those things... I don't want those ideas to stop because then I'm troubled and I can't do my mission. Right? Male: Yeah. Russell: And it’s the mission he gave me, right? Tthat's a big part of it. Number two, I think that, for me, I think more people want to talk about it and they're scared of it. And I think when I do it, then I think more people feel empowered to do it. And then that's great because I think people should be, we all should be doing that. And there's so much negative talk and people talking about every horrible thing out in the world and no one's talking about God. Like that's messed up. Matt: Yeah, God is the coolest conversation. Russell: Yeah, so if I give other people permission to do it, because I have that effect of like, "Man, I can't believe you did that." Like, "I'm going to say something." Like, "Good. That's awesome. Let me be the bad guy if that's what it takes. I'm okay with that." So those are some of the things. And I don't know, I think it's interesting because like anything I do, I post anything related. There's always some people like literally messages, like, if you post about God, that's a hard out or something. I'm like, "Whatever. All right." But the majority is people like, "Thank you." Even if they're like, "I don't have the same beliefs as you, but thanks for... It's cool that you want to share it." It's rarely been negative. It's been really positive. So the more I do it, the more the positive comes from it. I'm like, "Okay, this is not a bad thing." And the same thing, I'm a big believer in this. So Christ in, I think the book of John said, "The mighty sheep will hear my voice. And they will follow me." And I think that's true for in all our businesses. For me, my sheep will hear my voice and they follow me. Your sheep will hear, it's okay. So, if I'm going to speak and someone's offended by me, doesn't listen, that's okay. They don't have to follow me, they're my sheep, right? Maybe they like Grant Cardone, go for it. If that's your flavor, go for it. I'm not called to serve you. I'm called to serve these people. And so if I'm not willing to talk about the things that are important to me, then my people aren't going to hear me. And so I think it's an eternal principle that Christ taught. And he had tons of people, they crucified him, they didn't love him. But he still shared the things that his sheep heard him. And they came to him and they followed him. And like all of us, we've each been called to serve a group of people. So it's like for those people, be you and your sheep will hear your voice and they'll come to you. And own it. So anyway, that's my beliefs. Male: Thank you. Matt: We're all World Changers. We want to do something big. What is one question or one thing that we need to know that we didn't ask, that you feel like you guys missed the ball? This is a good question. What do we not know that we don't know? Just the whole thing. Russell: Let me talk about the car on the way here. Like it's probably because I’m geeking out on this book right now, it's like my favorite book. But if you read Outwitting the Devil, it's like literally one of the greatest books of all time. Yesterday we talked about backstory of it. Do you guys know Napoleon Hill? Think and Grow Rich? Male: Oh, yeah. Russell: Think and Grow Rich. In 1929, 1930, he wrote this book called Outwitting the Devil. And it's a book where you literally... Well, literally in the book, he has this conversation with the devil asking him like, "How do you get people..." He calls them... "To become drifters? To fall away, to not have success? Like, what are you doing?" And it's like, he's got Satan, he's got the devil where he's like interviewing him like in a courtroom. And the devil has to answer every question he has. So he's asking these questions, like, "How do you do it? What's it look like?" And it's one of the most fascinating conversation of all time. Matt: It is. Russell: It's amazing. So it's crazy because he asked these questions and Satan's like... The devil literally says, "It's like 98% of the children, man, I control." He calls them drifters. He says, "Get people to drift. And after they drift, I control them, I own them." There's only 2% of people aren't drifters. He calls these people, people who have... I'm doodling in my new book. Yes, a definitive purpose. Perfect. He talks about Think and Grow Rich as well. But in this it goes deeper. So only 2% of the world has definitive purpose. They have a purpose moving forward is the plan. And the book's amazing because it's talking about... Like here's all this, right. And you've got two options, and it's fear and respect. So fear is what he uses to get us to become drifters. Like I'm afraid of being poor, being unhealthy, all these things. Six fears he uses to get somebody to shift and to become a drifter. And 98% of people are drifters, and 2% of people who have... Say it again? Male: A definitive purpose. Russell: And it's really important. And that's faith. So he talks about in every situation you can take fear or faith. And fear makes us the drifter. Faith makes us definitive purpose. So it's like that's the thing. And so it's fear and faith. And so every situation, think about just like... Not to get political or social, what's this... COVID, what's happened. Everyone comes, it's like fear or faith. Like that's the option everyone has. And if they take fear, what happens? But it's in all aspects. In marriage, in a relationship, in business, fear and faith is the thing. And every time you take fear, you become a drifter. And you take faith you're moving forward with definitive purpose, you have a success. And it's crazy because he talks about all the things he does to get people to shift into drifting and how to keep them there. And then the point he'll ask him, he's like, "Well, if someone is definitive purpose, are they free from your control?" The devil, he says, "No." He's like, "As soon as they're definitive purpose, they've got all sorts of tools to get them to become drifters." And one of these examples is, for example, they make a bunch of money that they're following their path. And then I get them to go start eating more. They're successful. They eat more and they gain more weight. They start getting unhealthy, losing their desire and they shift and become drifters. And I own them then. Or they have too much money. Or they get into sex or drugs or all these sort of things. And all the things he uses to get people who have definitive purpose to become drifters again. Male: Wow. Russell: And so, for me, I've been reading that. I read the book three or four times in the last couple of months. And I made diagram, all the things. What are all the things that he uses to make people become drifters? What are the things that I need to do to move to definitive purpose and what are all the temptations he uses? Because he go through all of that in the book. It's insane. And so, for me, it's like, "Okay, how do we get ourselves to the spot where, in every decision that we encounter, we move to faith and not fear?Because that's the thing. And it's- Female: Staying present. Russell: ... It's cool. Yeah. Matt: It's what? Female: It's staying present, in the moment, like realizing what you're thinking and then you have a choice. Russell: Yeah. Because most people, the default's fear. Female: Because you're in that path to the future. Russell: Yeah. Female: Anyway. Russell: It was like… how do we get our minds to the spot where we consciously choose moving forward to faith and not fear in all things? And how do we protect ourselves so that when we are and have definitive purpose of moving forward, trying to become World Changers, we're trying to do these things, we don't slip back over? As soon as you get some success... Someone came with this at dinnertime... Just like I've been doing this now 18, 19 years. And the amount of people in those years that have had successes and crashes, back and forth. Like there's not many people that have been doing this as long as me, because most of them, they have that success and then become drifters. It's insane. I can tell you hundreds and hundreds of people who I've seen on this road who are making insane amounts of money, very successful and then they're gone. Where are they at? Male: They're broke, or where did they go? Russell: Not here. Female: So Russell, it's your character, is that what you're saying? Russell: What's that? Female: Like your character that keeps you like that? Russell: Yeah, character and just consistently like not shifting to... Like understanding, like how do you not shift? How do you not quit? How does someone have a business making millions of dollars a year and then they're broke? You had all the skills, you had all the things. What are the things that he's doing with it that are keeping us from that? I think most time we're not aware of it. And that book was the best thing I've ever read. It keeps you aware of it. These are the things he's doing. Male: Wow. Female: What turns you off? Matt: Yeah, what turns you off, Russell Brunson? Russell: People that just want to make money. We used to do this, smaller events in a room. I would look in five minutes who would be successful and who wouldn’t. Like the questions they're asking. Like they're trying to make money, they rarely made money. They're there because like, "Hey I've got this cool product, here I am." I believe in this thing, it was like huge factors. You get the random ones who still make money and they do make money. But for the most part yeah, it's just, I don't know. I feel like it's such a gift. Like the entrepreneur personality type we have, it's like such a gift that can be used for good or for evil by so many... I don't know, so many people use it stupidly. They use it selfishly. Matt: Yeah, so was that amazing? Group: Wow. Matt: There's a lot of people that would love to spend this much time with Russell Brunson in this kind of an intimate setting. Just thank you, seriously, for all you poured out. Russell: You told me this was going to be the best podcast interview I ever did and it's made my day. Matt: You think so? Russell: You promised me that… Male: For an introvert this must have took a lot of energy. Matt: Okay, real quick, for those that maybe who were watching, real quick, describe just some... Next few minutes before we leave, like your experience in the streets of the homeless visits and what it was like for your boys to get to be around Caleb and all that? And just what was that like for you? Russell: Yeah, for those who know, we brought my twins who I love them, but man, they've been... Having teenagers has been like the challenge of my life so far. It's so much harder than business and so I try to figure this puzzle. In fact, I don't know... I haven't told you this yet. So have you guys read Shoe Dog? Group: Yeah. Russell: So yeah, by- Group: Phil Knight. Russell: ... Yeah. In the book, one of his sons hates him. You know what it's like. You talk about headaches. He refused to wear Nike shoes, he only wore Reeboks, all sorts of stuff. And then later, at 32, I think, died in a scuba diving accident. And at the end of the book, he finishes his life story. And he talks about the only regret he ever had in life was that he never figured out the puzzle of his son. Matt: Wow. Russell: And when I read that it hit me like, Dallin specificly. It's just like I had this kid, I love him. Like I remember praying and like everything I went through to be able to get him here and then all the years growing up in his spot now where I can't figure him out. I love him and I care about him. I want him to... And just like everything I had tried seems like it pushes it the opposite way and like trying to figure out this puzzle. And so for me, one, super grateful just because I saw Dallin light up so much around you, Caleb, you have no idea how much, internally, I am grateful to you for that. Seeing Bowen, my son who's traditionally more awkward and nervous and seeing him light up and trying to hypnotize people. He told me, he's like, "I think that I'm literally a better person because of this trip and it's all your fault. Anyway, so it was just special because like of all the... Like I say this almost every time I speak, no success can compensate for failure at home. And there's times where I'm like, "I'm failing in my home. I don't want to do. I can't figure out this puzzle." Like I've tried. Matt: Wow. Russell: I've gone through every parent report, everything. And I'm just like this just perplexed to the point where I just want to go hide in the office because I'm like, "This is so easy to do this." And anyway, I feel like just the last two days for me has been like... I feel like you're looking over my shoulder and helping me move the puzzle pieces around... Hey, I feel like there's hope again. I'm grateful for that. I think for them, it's really cool for them to see. I thought their experience was going to be more like, "Oh my gosh, we're homeless." But it was different than I thought, in a good way. Matt: Yeah. Russell: Like before I was like, after first night, I'm kind of walking away and saying, "How's this been for you?" Thinking he was going to be like, "Oh, it's freaky." He was like, "It's so cool that I want to give everyone here a hug." And I was like, "Oh, my gosh." I thought it was going to be so scary, like intense, whatever. But it was the opposite. And Dallin's a little more quiet about it. But you can see him... It was special. So yeah, that was that from the kid's side. And from my personal side, it was just... I think the last time I experienced something like this was on the mission 20 years ago when I was in Jersey knocking doors and spent time in Camden and some of these areas that were similar to this and it was just... And I haven't done that for- Matt: Brought back something. Russell: ... Yeah. And we used to knock on doors and go talk to people and spend... Bringing Jesus to drunk people, all the time, like so much fun. And that was the closest to experience that again. It was just I forgot how much I love that part. And I'm hoping for Dallin, because I don't want Dallin and Bowen someday going on missions and they'd be so scared of it. I was like, I wanted to explain, that's what we did for two years. Like it was that kind of stuff. And talking about God with people and like trying to share your beliefs. And it was just... Anyway, so it was kind of like deja vu, one of my happiest times of my life again, which was special. Anyway. Matt: Yeah, thank you for that. Guys, I'll say this real quick. I tell you I've met all the social media influence, all of it. This is the most real one out there, study him. I told Caleb, I was like, "Listen, you study Russell, no alternative, do what Russell says. It's not a joke. Study this man right here, because he's been..." The Bible talks about, "There is a man sent from God." He's sent from God for this generation. And you guys getting to be here is very special. So cherish this and thank you, man. You've changed my life as a dad, as a man. I'll never be the same, just these last two days with you, man. Just your example, just the way you let your light shine, just your wisdom, the way you carry yourself, your humility, your kindness. Just, you're such an inspiration to see. It's refreshing to see. And that's something I've always cherished as a dad because I don't like a lot of the fake that I see in the chase of success and the illusion of, everybody wants to be the next Gary V or whatever that is. You know what I mean? He's like, "Why would you want to do it?" But it's like, to me, you've been like the lighthouse in the ocean. You've been like that safe place that I could grab my son. That's why I got into funnel hacking life because it was like, "Yes, this is the one event that's pure. It's real. It's fresh. And the leader of it's real." And even like you come in here, dude, and going to the homeless with us, man, didn't he? I mean, this guy's... Dude, your time alone, there's no telling what an hour is worth to you. So all the time that you invested, thank you so much, man. Seriously. You guys agree with that? Group: Yeah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 09 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0000 full 421 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy the final section of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my... The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy the final section of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to introduce you to the exciting conclusion of our World Changers Roundtable podcast. This has been the last three episodes you've had chance to listen to them behind the scenes as Matt Maddix and his son, Caleb, and a bunch of amazing people asked us a ton of questions, and I hope you've been enjoying them. Now, as I told you guys earlier, this interview went for almost four hours. This next episode is about 45 minutes or so long, actually technically 43 minutes. And for the most part, the interview is great, except for, I think that by that time of night, the batteries and the microphone started dying. And so towards the end, some of the audio is not as clear as possible. So you have two choices. Number one, is listen to it and be like, "Oh, it's all right." Or number two, when you get to the bad audio, just skip to the next podcast. But there's some really cool stuff that happens during that time. So I didn't want to just cut it out because I thought it's just really good stuff I think you're going to enjoy. So some things to talk about on this episode is my morning routine. Like, what does it look like? How do I do it? How do I shift it around? Another one is I talked about my mission. A lot of you guys know I served a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I spent two years in Jersey knocking doors and I talked about what I learned from that and like the experiences and things like that. We spent a lot of times talking about Operation Underground Railroad and how I got involved and some of the inspiration that came, that led me down the direction we did with that. I talked about Tim Ballard and some of what he has to deal with as running Operation Underground Railroad and how people are fighting against him and the amazing mission he's doing and how you'll see no matter what mission you're trying to accomplish, Satan and the adversary are always trying to fight against as well. And we talked about how the fact that as you're publishing and you're sharing... One of my big beliefs that comes from scriptures, that your sheep will hear your voice. And so, there's a lot of cool things and steps. We always talk about owning the devil towards the end. And then we talked about some of the experiences feeding the homeless and the kids and a whole bunch of other stuff. So, anyway, I hope you enjoy this episode. I apologize that some of the audio cuts out at the end, but, you know, battery life. We should be upset at the people who make Lav mic batteries because they're the ones whose batteries died. No, just joking. But for the most part, hopefully you have a chance to hear it and get some good value from it. Again, I hope you enjoyed this series. We had so much fun doing the interview, and hopefully you got a ton of value for you and for your family. And let me know if you want more of this kind of stuff, this is different than my traditional Marketing Secrets podcast, but hopefully you loved it. If you did, let us know, and we'll continue to make more content like this as well. With that said, we can keep the theme song, we'll jump into four of four of the World Changers podcast interview. Speaker 2: So I just want to know your daily routine. I just really been getting into my spiritual side, right. Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Speaker 2: So just tapping into that, more of the importance of that and doing the morning, and if you do anything. Russell: Yeah, for me, it's- Speaker 3: Good question. Russell: ... weird because one of my close buddies, his morning routine is like four hours long. He literally said it to me. I was like, "Oh my gosh." But he has no kids. And so it's tough because I got five kids. So by seven o'clock it's on. It's on like Donkey Kong. It's crazy. It's like kids and food and... So it's like if I have a morning routine at half 7:00, before 7:00, it doesn't happen. And so, it depends. I go through different cycles. Sometimes if I'm writing, I'll get up at 5:00 because that's like really good time from 5:00 till 7:00 when I'm writing. If I'm not writing usually closer to 6:00 and that's the time where I'm reading. I've never got into meditation, but I do read scriptures. I read things. I want to, I've never had... I need someone to give me a meditation experience that's like magical. Do you know what I mean? I've tried before, I get the apps or whatever. And I'm like, I feel... or whatever. So I would love to go somewhere and have like a really cool... I've just never had one yet. So it's not part of what I do yet. And I take a lot of supplements. So, after my nighttime, I try to put as much supplements into my body as possible- Speaker 4: What do you take? Russell: A lot. I could show you the list. There's a lot. Speaker 4: Okay. Matt: Well we do know that protein ice cream is one of them, just to let you know. Speaker 5: How did you develop your supplement line? Do you have like a DNA doctor or... Russell: Anthony DiClementi has helped me a lot. I think he's cool. I've done blood tests and stuff like that to shift things. I read a lot, study a lot, try things, test things, see what helps, what doesn't. So, I like having just supplements for my body from morning till noon, just because... I don't know, I feel like it's just absorbing all the amazingness from them. And then seven o'clock hits and that's when it's just like, all right from 7:00 till about 8:30, it's like getting kids ready, driving kids to school. My kids are in four different schools, so it's here, there, back and forth, all sorts of stuff. Male: Do you take them? Russell: Yeah, I love it. We do, but I love driving to school. It's my favorite part. Because it's like... Anyway, yeah, I fight to drive them. It's like, sometimes they can bring their friends with them. So I get to hear them talk with their friends. And it's just like a cool time, I get to see them go to school. And I don't know, they're just so cute. They jump out and they try to be all cool when they walk in. It's just, I don't know- Matt: It's a bonding time. It's driving your kids to school. Russell: Yeah. And I try to get them in a good state, try to listen to music because school's horrible. I don't know about... I hated school. Matt: Ahh damn, me too. Russell: And I know I'm about to send them to the thing I hated the most. So I'm like I need to get them in a good state to listen to music, this type of thing. What are you most excited about after school? And trying to give them something so when they send them to like- Male: Prison. Russell: ... Oh yeah. And then, so right now I'm wrestling. I have a tournament next week and I'm wrestling. And so- Caleb: When can we all watch it? Russell: I'll send you the footage afterwards… Matt: We need a private Facebook group, man, where you can Facebook live just as a group. Russell: We're filming it. If I do all right, I'll show you guys. Male: Okay. Russell: So right now, at 8:30 at home, and then one of my wrestling buddies shows up. So from 8:30 to 9:00 we wrestle and just beat the crap out of each other, which is like awesome. When we weren't wrestling it was lifting and stuff like that. And then from then I got like all my focus times done, supplementation, kid time, workout. And then I go to the office and that's where my team time's there. So I got a team, that's where we'll be building stuff, a lot of people and- Female: What time? Russell: Let's see 8:30 to 9:30. It's about 10:00, 10:30-ish, I'll show up, a lot of them will show up. And that's when we're doing more stuff together. I mean, it just depends on... He's got crazy ideas and wants to stay later or whatever. But yeah, I use that and then I get home and I try to play dad from then till about 9:00, taking the young kids to bed by 9:00, and then the older kids are a little later. 9:00 till we pass out and my wife and I can actually spend some time together. Male: Do you work on Sundays or not really? Russell: I have a church calling and so I'm doing a lot of social media missionary work and generate leads for the church and stuff. So I do that on Sunday, but it's all focused on church stuff. Male: You did the 2 year missionary thing. Where'd you go? Russell: New Jersey. Male: ... and how was it? Russell: It was amazing. Male: What did you think about it. What'd you- Russell: It was the greatest experience of my life. I was telling these guys yesterday... Typically in someone's life it's the most selfish time of your life. 19 years old, what do most 19 year olds do? Like you're thinking about yourself and your… Yeah. So, it's like you literally are taken from that, you're shipped across the country, across the world. They get rid of your name. You're no longer Russell. I became elder, Elder Brunson. White shirt, white tie, yeah. No, I'm not an elder anymore. I'm not an elder anymore. I got released. But yeah, there's no dating. There's no calling home, none of that stuff. So you're in a spot where you can't do anything for yourself for two years. You can only serve other people. And most people are angry at you for even doing it. And so it's like just a really cool experience where it's not about you for two years. And imagine the shift that makes in your life where now it's like you come back and it's like... Anyway, it shifts everything, there's no way- Matt: Yeah, because like you were saying to us, if you can... The best training is gospel work, man, is out there talking to people about Jesus- Russell: Do you want to hear my pitch? Matt: ... Huh? Group: Yeah. Russell: This isn't the real pitch, but this is like... I mean, think about it. It's you knock on their door and you're like, "All right, this is the deal. If you give up alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea, all premarital and extramarital sex, and 10% of your income for the rest of your life, you may get salvation if you don't screw up." Like that's the offer. Male: Damn. Russell: So you get home from that and you're like, "I got to sell software. I got to sell Cutco knives." So like pastoral is super easy. That's why all door-to-door salesmen were Mormons. All the companies recruit out of Utah, almost all network marketing companies are founded by Mormons. We love selling. You get home, it's like, "I can use these powers for evil. This is amazing." It's awesome. Female: So say that one more time. You went so fast. That was great. What was it? Russell: Alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea, or premarital and extramarital sex, extra like other partners. You can have sex with your wife all you want. And 10% of your income for the rest of your life. Matt: And then you may make it if you don't screw up. How do you say it? Russell: Yeah. You may get salvation if you don't screw up- Male: If you do all that, you can still make it, is what you're saying. Russell: ... But that's the offer, yeah. Male: Wow. Russell: Give up all those things. Male: What do you think is the most important problem and not being solved today? Or you think needs more attention? Matt: Good question. I would love to end on human trafficking. Russell: That was good. Actually, I literally didn't go. Human trafficking is... I mean, I can't think of anything worse than that. You know what I mean? Like, I- Matt: I'd love for you to share your experiences with Operation Underground. Just some of the behind the scenes, whatever you can. And just some of the stories you've heard and just kind of like why you got into it. Russell: Yeah. That organization is amazing. Tim Ballard is like an angel. I don't know. Matt: Yeah. Russell: And I feel bad for him because he's in a spot where literally Satan is trying to destroy him. So he is giving his life, his blood, his sweat, his tears, like literally putting his life on the line every single day. And you have good intentioned people from around the world trying to destroy him. And so it's like, can you imagine that? Like you're going into the deepest, darkest parts of hell and trying to save little children and that's not the scariest thing. Then you get people attacking you and your character and your family and your life. There's a special place in heaven for him. Matt: Yeah, I agree. Russell: He's an amazing human. And so that's what I lead with. But then, man, it's been cool being on this journey just because I believed in miracles before, but the stories, when you hear them coming back from these raids and these missions and the miracles that happen consistently over and over and over again, it's just like... It says in the scriptures, "All things denote that there's a God." And you see these things consistently happening. Like God's hand is in it. The way I got involved in this whole... It's crazy because I told you, I got a call one day from somebody asked me to be a part of it and I was like, "Yeah, I'd love to help." And so, the first thing I did is, my ego is like oh, I know how to solve this problem. So I'm like, "Okay, we're going to build a funnel." We mapped it out and this whole thing. And I'm supposed to go to Utah to present this to all the guys. And I'm totally in my... Trying to serve, but also at the same time, like, "I know how to do this. This is my thing." Matt: Yeah, you're the- Russell: Yeah. And I didn't ask God for advice or opinion. I was just like, "Got it. I'm here. I'm going to do this thing." And it's crazy, the day I'm supposed to be driving to Utah, that morning in the shower and I just had this uneasy feeling like... And first time, am I nervous? I'm nervous. Obviously I'm going to be presenting this. What if they don't like it, whatever? But it was more than that. It was just like, "Ah, something's not..." I don't know something's just not quite right. So finally, I broke down and prayed. I'm presenting this to these guys, is this the right thing? Would you have me do something different? And I don't know if you guys have felt like inspiration from God before, whatever, it is weird and powerful. In that moment it literally was just like, "That's not what you're supposed to do." And I'm like, "What?" And it was like, "You're supposed to be building a documentary. And Nick Nanton is going to help you film it." And I was like, "Nick Nanton?" I met the guy once six years earlier, in passing at a Genius Network event. Maybe said three words to him. I was like, "I don't know if he knows who I am." And so, I'm sitting there, I literally just got out of the shower. My towel's on, I was like, "Nick Nanton?" So, I find Facebook, I'm like, "I don't know if we're Facebook friends," and we were. So I was like, send an audio, "Hey man, I don't know if you know who I am or not. But we met one time. I know your documentaries, you're really good at it. So this is crazy. But I don't know if you believe in God or whatever, but I just had this impression I'm going down today to Utah to present this thing, Operational Underground Railroad. I don't know if you've heard of it, you should go look it up. But I had a very, very distinct impression that you were supposed to film a documentary for these guys that's going to change... It's going to save a bunch of kids. Do you want to help?" And that was the message. And I sent it. And I was like, "Oh," started getting dressed. And then come back a bit later on, on the phone there's a message back from him. He's like, "Dude, I just looked it up," He was like, "I don't know what this is," but he's like, "if you'll cover the hard costs for my team to produce this, I'll do everything else for free. I won't take any royalties, any extras, I'm 100% in." Matt: Wow. Male: Wow. Russell: And I was like, "Okay." And so then I called Jake, my designer, like, "Could you make a DVD cover of a movie because we're about to pitch a movie instead of... It could be a design idea, here's the funnel." Like, "We're not doing any of that." So they're designing the stuff. It's crazy- Matt: This is the day of? Russell: ... Yeah. So we're driving down to Utah and anyway, we present it to these guys and it's just crazy. We present it, we filled with the Spirit like it's super powerful. And then we got to make a documentary. So Nick Nanton sinks these guys and like so many miracles are mysterious, crazy. So they were trying to go... They want to go to Haiti because... Have you guys all seen the Operation Toussaint documentary? Male: Yes. Russell: Okay, if you haven't, it'll change your life forever. This is the story- Male: Have you seen it? Russell: ... It's the whole Operation Underground Railroad story. And the main story is about this little kid named Gardy, who was stolen from... It was actually a church, his church, his dad was the Bishop of the church and his dad actually owned a business. And he'd fired one of his employees and his employees came to church and knew the kid and was like, "Oh, come here." And to get back at his dad for firing him takes him out and gives him to some people, just to mess with him. And the people were traffickers, took the kid off, shipped him out. And anyway, crazy. Anyway, there's so many stories I could tell you. But anyway, so they went down to go interview Guesno Mardy who's the father because that's how Operation Underground Railroad started because this family, this kid. So we go down to interview him. And as they're interviewing him, a year earlier, Tony Robbins actually went on a sting operation with him to Haiti- Matt: I want to hear about that a little bit. Russell: ... I don't know much about it. I just know that I saw a picture of him, he's undercover, he had a beard on, he was in a boat. So Tony went on this thing, they arrested all these traffickers on Superbowl Sunday, arrested all these traffickers. And like three months later, the government let them off. Matt: At the Superbowl, the government, what? Russell: No, it was Superbowl Sunday and Tony was in the boat, with Tim, those guys, arresting all the people. And anyway, so they arrested all these people, Tony was there, it was amazing. But there's so much corruption in the Haitian government. So they paid off the people and they let them all go. And so what's crazy is that we're trying to recapture these people, all sorts of stuff. And anyway, so long story short, Nick Nanton's team fly down to go interview Guesno Mardy. So, fly down to interview Guesno Mardy and they're sitting there interviewing him and all of a sudden Tim gets this thing like we found the head lady of the brothel. We located, we know exactly where she's at. We know where all the girls are at. They refound the people from when Tony did the arrest. And so, Nick's here filming this testimonial video and they're like, "We're going to arrest her tonight. Do you want to be part of it?" And he's like, "What?" And so they get the cameras out and everything. And Nick's undercover, his whole team. Like a bunch of videographers has showed up and now they're undercover in bulletproof vests and so crazy. But anyway, they're going to arrest these... We have all the footage. If you've seen the documentary, you see all the footage of the stuff they just happened... They were not planning on capturing any of the arrests or anything, it just happened because they were there. And one of the really cool stories that Tim told me is that as they were pulling up to go arrest her, they're pulling up in the minivan and they've got GoPros hooked everything there, they're filming stuff. And this guy was like, "I need a GoPro on my helmet." And they're like, "We're jumping in the car in 30 seconds to arrest... " And his guy's like, "You have to run right now. I just have this feeling. You have to put the GoPro on my helmet." Like, "Dude, we don't have time to find..." Fine, so they duct tape a GoPro on a thing, click record. And they go, jump out, they arrest this girl. And what happened in the arrest, they arrest the girl, and as they're arresting them, they find her, she's the kingpin of the whole thing. They arrest her, some of the people around, they don't know where the brothel is. And this guy looks over and he sees this little kid like looking out a door and then he goes back in and like, "I wonder if that's her brothel." So he runs over there and comes in to the brothel and walks in and finds all of these men raping kids, like in the act. And so people start jumping up and running out and he's like... We're trying to capture people, they all escape. Anyway, it comes out of the things, we found the brothel, we saw the people and it's this horrible thing. And Tim walks over and looks up and he's like, "Dude, look at your helmet." And the GoPros they're flashing and they had video... Like you walked in and saw every single trafficker's face as you walked around the thing. They had the things, they were going there to arrest them. Matt: Chills. Russell: And there's so many crazy experiences like that, that happened in every single way. They're crazy, they're just insane things. Every time he comes back, I talk to him like, "Tell me another story." He tells you stories. There's so many miracles that happen just on these journeys and these missions that are... It's just crazy. So anyway, it's powerful. I don't know, it's like the plague of our lifetimes that we've got to figure out how to solve. And I was telling Caleb and Matt, we've got a big project we're working on called the Save a Child Challenge where we're rolling out soon, that I think is going to be- Matt: You'll love this. Russell: Anyway. It's going to be big what we're going to be trying to do, but it's trying to shine a huge light on this problem. And we may roll out at Funnel Hacking Live. Matt: Can I ask you a question, spiritually, when you start getting involved in this, you were talking and sharing with us a little bit yesterday which is some spiritual wisdom because I always say new levels, new devils, but that's a territory that as you know, I mean, when you start getting in that, that's like Satan's number one playground. To me, that's like the whole reason we're going through what we're going through right now is because of the fight over the purity of our children in the future. So, what have you seen Tim go through? Or whoever involved? I know you've had some stories too, man. What are some things that you've seen? And then what's your advice to people that get involved or want to get involved? Maybe tell a few stories. Russell: I'm trying to think what would be the right ones. It's weird, like a lot of people who've gotten involved in the organization, they get involved, I think, initially for pure reasons. And then things happen. Like initially they actually filmed the whole documentary and documentary series before we started working with them. And the people capture all this footage and then they went insane. It's like just crazy. They wouldn't give the footage, or wanted money, all these things. It was just like when we went to Tim, like the biggest thing is Nick Nanton was like, "There's no money in this for me at all. This is at cost. This is pro bono. This is everything. You own the rights, you can do whatever you want with it." We're the same way. We came in like, "We're doing this. I want to make sure there's no way that I could ever make money off of this. I don't want any..." And I think it's like... I don't know, people go into these things like looking for how can we make money on this? And it's just crazy. It's insane. I can't fathom it, but it's just crazy. And since I've been around them, I've seen it happen four or five times, people come in, somebody will have good intentions, they come and do something and then they're like... It's just crazy. I can't even fathom it. And then it's funny because I've watched him, he's been so protective of funds. He looks like he's the guardian of the money that people come in. This is a sacred stewardship for him. And so much like, their family literally lives in poverty. We chipped in and helped buy them a van because they brought home two Haitian kids they adopted and they needed a bigger car. And like he writes books to be able to fund things. He gets $0 salary from OUR. He also became the head of The Nazareen Fund for Glenn Beck. He's the CEO of The Nazareen Fund. So he's running these huge charities, huge organizations, gets $0 salary, but he writes these books so his family could eat. He does these different things. And so you got people coming in like, "Oh, he's just doing this to sell his books, all these things." He's just like- Matt: God bless him, man. Russell: "Literally I'm trying to feed my family and I'm working for free saving thousands of kids." And just like crazy- Matt: Going places nobody else will go. Russell: And so you see people attacking him. In Utah it's on the news. Like, "Oh..." It's just insane to me. And so it's like the more pure, the more good you're trying to do, it's like swimming upstream. And so it's just like, "Man, we need more of us. People like us who love, who understand, who care, who are on the same mission to help support and help push. Because I can't imagine swimming that stream by myself." You know what I mean? Male: It's easier not to get involved. Matt: Yeah, exactly. Male: It's easier to stay out of it and keep... Because once you get dug into that... Oh, just thinking about it just makes me sick. Female: How do you get involved? Male: Oh, there's so many ways and we'll talk about it after, but there's just... With Tim, here's what's crazy is, we've worked with OUR and the things that we did out here, and it's crazy how I heard stories about Tim that people would make up stories about how he's this person and he's involved in this and he's in... And you're like, "How sick." I mean, you're talking about satanic, like where people take somebody doing something so beautiful and you start hearing this person's involved in this. And somebody says something about me. And then I got one of the most powerful people in Arizona making a comment about me. And you're just like, "This is..." You're doing good, this guy's doing good. He sacrificed, he's put himself in harm's way. And it's disgusting. I was once asked by a reporter, they said... They tried to make me out to be conspiracy theorist about child sex trafficking. Of course it was never anything good. And they go, "Do you think anybody higher ups involved?" And I said, "Really? If you and I don't pay our taxes, do they send us a letter or they show up at our door, IRS?" Yeah. I said, "How does $150 billion industry go untaxed?" And he was just like, "Okay." And he changed the whole topic. The reporter didn't want to report on that. And then, they attack, they attack, they attacked. And from our rallies that we did last year, along with OUR, worked hand in hand with them, love, amazing. I had one of the guys from the Dream Center, one of the largest rehab centers come up to me just the other week. I met him at an event and he said, “Adel, I know who you are." And I was like, "Really?" He's like, "Yeah," he's like, "you have no idea just from doing what you guys did the amount of money that was donated to our center." I said, "Really? Because they were writing how bad we were for raising awareness about child sex trafficking." He said, "Man, we could have spent millions of dollars on marketing and withdrawn so much money." He's like, "I have to take you out." I said, "I don't want you to take me out." I said, "Thank God." I said, "You just made my night, man. That was the best thing I've ever heard that just..." And he was like, "No, you have no idea. I seriously can't even tell you how much money it brought in." He's like, Mommas Miracle Movement, started emailing all those people," I was like, "Yeah." He's like, "They changed everything." So, my point being is, it's easier not to get involved with child sex trafficking because you get in there and you start... One day before a rally, one of my family members got exploited on social media and it's crazy because it had never happened. And as you're doing a rally, thousands of people showing up raising money, doing this and that, next thing, you know what happens, it's somebody in my family. And I get a message... Matt: Yeah, he packs the rallies here, y'all. You need to go to one of his rallies, they're powerful, if you've ever been… Male: That's just evil. But I don't want to take away from what you're saying… But, God bless you, man, for fighting with them and doing everything. Because that's what we're doing, God's work at the end of the day and that's all you're going to do. Matt: Yeah. And it's exciting to see other people involved, young men out there. So what grabbed your heart on it? What was the initial like, "I'm going to do something. I'm not just going to stand back"? Russell: I didn't know about it. We were wanting to get involved, it kind of explained a little bit. And so, that night I remember going online and reading about it and watching some videos and stuff. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I had no idea that any of this was happening." And how can you not after you... I remember that night I was vlogging, I said to someone, I was like, "I'm pretty sure this is going to change the direction of my life forever." Matt: Did you feel that? Russell: Yeah. It was just like, "How can you not?" If your kid was taken, what would you do? I can't imagine that. When someone says something mean to my kids, I'm ready to go blow up the school, you know what I mean? Matt: Do you think it's going to come to a point... I agree. Do you think it's going to come to... The world has to shut down until we find these kids. In other words- Russell: Christ has to come again. Matt: Yeah. Russell: I mean, honestly. Matt: Yeah. Russell: Until he comes again, it's… do our best until... Anyway. Matt: But I'm talking in my life, where I'm talking about nothing about shutting, I'm talking about, where we all say... You know how if a child comes up missing everybody in the community will come together to where we say, "Okay, for the next 30 days, every veteran, every person that believes in children and our future, we're going to use every ounce of energy and focus to find these children because there's got to be a way. There's got to be a way, isn't there? Or are they just locked up? Is it just too hard?" Russell: I don't know. The most of it, it's tough because they don't... That was my big fear initially when I got involved with Tim. I was just like, "If somebody had stole my kid..." And he's like, "That's not how it works." He's like, "It happens sometimes." Because the traffickers don't want to pick a high profile person with a bunch of monies and they can search you and take you out. He's like, "The kids they exploit, because they take the ones that don't have parents, the parents don't have money. They don't have the resources. They can take them, there's not implications, because they just want to sell the kid. They make the money selling their product." So it's like they're not looking for... The people they go after, people that don't have a voice, they can't fight back. It's like that's where a lot of that stuff's happening. And it's the Americans who are flying to different places, different countries to where they can... Yeah, that's what's messed up. The Americans are the ones who are the- Matt: Do you think you'll ever go on a mission or- Russell: ... We're planning on going... I was supposed to go on one this year with them and then COVID hit and I've been nervous. Because that's the thing is like, you watched it on film and it's horrible. I can't imagine seeing the kids. I don't know. But at the same time, you'll get the work of the Village Impact. We donated money to Village Impact and then when I went there and experienced it, it changed me, man. It became part of me, you know what I mean? So part of me wants to do that because I feel like for me to be able to help next level, it has to… Yeah, you have to sit in the pain to be able to figure out a solution, as hard as that is. So I think I will, at some point. Matt: Did you feel the... Speaking of the Atlas, that's probably one of the things where Atlas, I felt that. Male: Yeah, I know I did. Matt: Yeah. And you, I mean, and I just wondered, like you said, you feel like you could do so much, and then you look at... You ever meet Jaco Booyens? Russell: Mm-mm (negative). Matt: Do you know who he is? He was on the White House Sex Trafficking Council. His sister was rescued. I think he rescued her after 26 years or something- Russell: Oh, wow. Matt: ... Something crazy, great guy. But he's been fighting for a long time. I remember when we first got into it, he was just like, "Man, you can literally want to do everything," but he's like, "you just have to focus on some part because there's so much to this." And I don't know, did you feel that too, as being involved? Because you feel like you're so powerful in a lot of things you can do when you talk about inspiring entrepreneurs, but how does it feel despite what do you- Russell: There's something like, whatever, two million children are done, it's like I think I said... When I met OUR they helped 1,000 kids. Now you have like four or 5,000- Matt: Think about that. 1,000 kids. Russell: ... And it's amazing being like two million. Matt: 1,000. So, there's still two million you're saying. Male: I really love how you're so open about your faith and it's really something that's evident in everything you do. So I just wanted to ask where that really comes from, in your life? Russell: A couple of things. One, yeah, I honestly believe it's true. So, that's important. Number two, I feel like if I don't acknowledge His hand in what's happening, like... And as a father now it's weird but I think one of the reasons why God has us be parents is because we get a little glimpse of ourselves. Like I look at my kids, I can give them everything in the world and like made, and all of something that I do it means the world. If I don't, it's just like, it hurts. And it's like, I feel like if I don't acknowledge the gifts, like, I don't think you have your gifts. You know what I mean? I'm a big believer that... I think all of us as we, especially in this entrepreneur world, but in all parts of life, it's like I'm looking for the next step and the ideas and things like that. And it's not something I'm remembering, it's like things are being handed. So it's like, where's that coming from? It's not my own. I never read a book that said this was the path, but it's showing up. Like the answer's there. It's coming from God. And I feel like God gives us ideas. And then we're either a good steward of those ideas or we’re bad. Like we take it and we do something with it, then he gives us more. And if we do something again, like it keeps moving forward. And it's just like, I feel like if we don't acknowledge Him, if we're not grateful for those things... I don't want those ideas to stop because then I'm troubled and I can't do my mission. Right? Male: Yeah. Russell: And it’s the mission he gave me, right? Tthat's a big part of it. Number two, I think that, for me, I think more people want to talk about it and they're scared of it. And I think when I do it, then I think more people feel empowered to do it. And then that's great because I think people should be, we all should be doing that. And there's so much negative talk and people talking about every horrible thing out in the world and no one's talking about God. Like that's messed up. Matt: Yeah, God is the coolest conversation. Russell: Yeah, so if I give other people permission to do it, because I have that effect of like, "Man, I can't believe you did that." Like, "I'm going to say something." Like, "Good. That's awesome. Let me be the bad guy if that's what it takes. I'm okay with that." So those are some of the things. And I don't know, I think it's interesting because like anything I do, I post anything related. There's always some people like literally messages, like, if you post about God, that's a hard out or something. I'm like, "Whatever. All right." But the majority is people like, "Thank you." Even if they're like, "I don't have the same beliefs as you, but thanks for... It's cool that you want to share it." It's rarely been negative. It's been really positive. So the more I do it, the more the positive comes from it. I'm like, "Okay, this is not a bad thing." And the same thing, I'm a big believer in this. So Christ in, I think the book of John said, "The mighty sheep will hear my voice. And they will follow me." And I think that's true for in all our businesses. For me, my sheep will hear my voice and they follow me. Your sheep will hear, it's okay. So, if I'm going to speak and someone's offended by me, doesn't listen, that's okay. They don't have to follow me, they're my sheep, right? Maybe they like Grant Cardone, go for it. If that's your flavor, go for it. I'm not called to serve you. I'm called to serve these people. And so if I'm not willing to talk about the things that are important to me, then my people aren't going to hear me. And so I think it's an eternal principle that Christ taught. And he had tons of people, they crucified him, they didn't love him. But he still shared the things that his sheep heard him. And they came to him and they followed him. And like all of us, we've each been called to serve a group of people. So it's like for those people, be you and your sheep will hear your voice and they'll come to you. And own it. So anyway, that's my beliefs. Male: Thank you. Matt: We're all World Changers. We want to do something big. What is one question or one thing that we need to know that we didn't ask, that you feel like you guys missed the ball? This is a good question. What do we not know that we don't know? Just the whole thing. Russell: Let me talk about the car on the way here. Like it's probably because I’m geeking out on this book right now, it's like my favorite book. But if you read Outwitting the Devil, it's like literally one of the greatest books of all time. Yesterday we talked about backstory of it. Do you guys know Napoleon Hill? Think and Grow Rich? Male: Oh, yeah. Russell: Think and Grow Rich. In 1929, 1930, he wrote this book called Outwitting the Devil. And it's a book where you literally... Well, literally in the book, he has this conversation with the devil asking him like, "How do you get people..." He calls them... "To become drifters? To fall away, to not have success? Like, what are you doing?" And it's like, he's got Satan, he's got the devil where he's like interviewing him like in a courtroom. And the devil has to answer every question he has. So he's asking these questions, like, "How do you do it? What's it look like?" And it's one of the most fascinating conversation of all time. Matt: It is. Russell: It's amazing. So it's crazy because he asked these questions and Satan's like... The devil literally says, "It's like 98% of the children, man, I control." He calls them drifters. He says, "Get people to drift. And after they drift, I control them, I own them." There's only 2% of people aren't drifters. He calls these people, people who have... I'm doodling in my new book. Yes, a definitive purpose. Perfect. He talks about Think and Grow Rich as well. But in this it goes deeper. So only 2% of the world has definitive purpose. They have a purpose moving forward is the plan. And the book's amazing because it's talking about... Like here's all this, right. And you've got two options, and it's fear and respect. So fear is what he uses to get us to become drifters. Like I'm afraid of being poor, being unhealthy, all these things. Six fears he uses to get somebody to shift and to become a drifter. And 98% of people are drifters, and 2% of people who have... Say it again? Male: A definitive purpose. Russell: And it's really important. And that's faith. So he talks about in every situation you can take fear or faith. And fear makes us the drifter. Faith makes us definitive purpose. So it's like that's the thing. And so it's fear and faith. And so every situation, think about just like... Not to get political or social, what's this... COVID, what's happened. Everyone comes, it's like fear or faith. Like that's the option everyone has. And if they take fear, what happens? But it's in all aspects. In marriage, in a relationship, in business, fear and faith is the thing. And every time you take fear, you become a drifter. And you take faith you're moving forward with definitive purpose, you have a success. And it's crazy because he talks about all the things he does to get people to shift into drifting and how to keep them there. And then the point he'll ask him, he's like, "Well, if someone is definitive purpose, are they free from your control?" The devil, he says, "No." He's like, "As soon as they're definitive purpose, they've got all sorts of tools to get them to become drifters." And one of these examples is, for example, they make a bunch of money that they're following their path. And then I get them to go start eating more. They're successful. They eat more and they gain more weight. They start getting unhealthy, losing their desire and they shift and become drifters. And I own them then. Or they have too much money. Or they get into sex or drugs or all these sort of things. And all the things he uses to get people who have definitive purpose to become drifters again. Male: Wow. Russell: And so, for me, I've been reading that. I read the book three or four times in the last couple of months. And I made diagram, all the things. What are all the things that he uses to make people become drifters? What are the things that I need to do to move to definitive purpose and what are all the temptations he uses? Because he go through all of that in the book. It's insane. And so, for me, it's like, "Okay, how do we get ourselves to the spot where, in every decision that we encounter, we move to faith and not fear?Because that's the thing. And it's- Female: Staying present. Russell: ... It's cool. Yeah. Matt: It's what? Female: It's staying present, in the moment, like realizing what you're thinking and then you have a choice. Russell: Yeah. Because most people, the default's fear. Female: Because you're in that path to the future. Russell: Yeah. Female: Anyway. Russell: It was like… how do we get our minds to the spot where we consciously choose moving forward to faith and not fear in all things? And how do we protect ourselves so that when we are and have definitive purpose of moving forward, trying to become World Changers, we're trying to do these things, we don't slip back over? As soon as you get some success... Someone came with this at dinnertime... Just like I've been doing this now 18, 19 years. And the amount of people in those years that have had successes and crashes, back and forth. Like there's not many people that have been doing this as long as me, because most of them, they have that success and then become drifters. It's insane. I can tell you hundreds and hundreds of people who I've seen on this road who are making insane amounts of money, very successful and then they're gone. Where are they at? Male: They're broke, or where did they go? Russell: Not here. Female: So Russell, it's your character, is that what you're saying? Russell: What's that? Female: Like your character that keeps you like that? Russell: Yeah, character and just consistently like not shifting to... Like understanding, like how do you not shift? How do you not quit? How does someone have a business making millions of dollars a year and then they're broke? You had all the skills, you had all the things. What are the things that he's doing with it that are keeping us from that? I think most time we're not aware of it. And that book was the best thing I've ever read. It keeps you aware of it. These are the things he's doing. Male: Wow. Female: What turns you off? Matt: Yeah, what turns you off, Russell Brunson? Russell: People that just want to make money. We used to do this, smaller events in a room. I would look in five minutes who would be successful and who wouldn’t. Like the questions they're asking. Like they're trying to make money, they rarely made money. They're there because like, "Hey I've got this cool product, here I am." I believe in this thing, it was like huge factors. You get the random ones who still make money and they do make money. But for the most part yeah, it's just, I don't know. I feel like it's such a gift. Like the entrepreneur personality type we have, it's like such a gift that can be used for good or for evil by so many... I don't know, so many people use it stupidly. They use it selfishly. Matt: Yeah, so was that amazing? Group: Wow. Matt: There's a lot of people that would love to spend this much time with Russell Brunson in this kind of an intimate setting. Just thank you, seriously, for all you poured out. Russell: You told me this was going to be the best podcast interview I ever did and it's made my day. Matt: You think so? Russell: You promised me that… Male: For an introvert this must have took a lot of energy. Matt: Okay, real quick, for those that maybe who were watching, real quick, describe just some... Next few minutes before we leave, like your experience in the streets of the homeless visits and what it was like for your boys to get to be around Caleb and all that? And just what was that like for you? Russell: Yeah, for those who know, we brought my twins who I love them, but man, they've been... Having teenagers has been like the challenge of my life so far. It's so much harder than business and so I try to figure this puzzle. In fact, I don't know... I haven't told you this yet. So have you guys read Shoe Dog? Group: Yeah. Russell: So yeah, by- Group: Phil Knight. Russell: ... Yeah. In the book, one of his sons hates him. You know what it's like. You talk about headaches. He refused to wear Nike shoes, he only wore Reeboks, all sorts of stuff. And then later, at 32, I think, died in a scuba diving accident. And at the end of the book, he finishes his life story. And he talks about the only regret he ever had in life was that he never figured out the puzzle of his son. Matt: Wow. Russell: And when I read that it hit me like, Dallin specificly. It's just like I had this kid, I love him. Like I remember praying and like everything I went through to be able to get him here and then all the years growing up in his spot now where I can't figure him out. I love him and I care about him. I want him to... And just like everything I had tried seems like it pushes it the opposite way and like trying to figure out this puzzle. And so for me, one, super grateful just because I saw Dallin light up so much around you, Caleb, you have no idea how much, internally, I am grateful to you for that. Seeing Bowen, my son who's traditionally more awkward and nervous and seeing him light up and trying to hypnotize people. He told me, he's like, "I think that I'm literally a better person because of this trip and it's all your fault. Anyway, so it was just special because like of all the... Like I say this almost every time I speak, no success can compensate for failure at home. And there's times where I'm like, "I'm failing in my home. I don't want to do. I can't figure out this puzzle." Like I've tried. Matt: Wow. Russell: I've gone through every parent report, everything. And I'm just like this just perplexed to the point where I just want to go hide in the office because I'm like, "This is so easy to do this." And anyway, I feel like just the last two days for me has been like... I feel like you're looking over my shoulder and helping me move the puzzle pieces around... Hey, I feel like there's hope again. I'm grateful for that. I think for them, it's really cool for them to see. I thought their experience was going to be more like, "Oh my gosh, we're homeless." But it was different than I thought, in a good way. Matt: Yeah. Russell: Like before I was like, after first night, I'm kind of walking away and saying, "How's this been for you?" Thinking he was going to be like, "Oh, it's freaky." He was like, "It's so cool that I want to give everyone here a hug." And I was like, "Oh, my gosh." I thought it was going to be so scary, like intense, whatever. But it was the opposite. And Dallin's a little more quiet about it. But you can see him... It was special. So yeah, that was that from the kid's side. And from my personal side, it was just... I think the last time I experienced something like this was on the mission 20 years ago when I was in Jersey knocking doors and spent time in Camden and some of these areas that were similar to this and it was just... And I haven't done that for- Matt: Brought back something. Russell: ... Yeah. And we used to knock on doors and go talk to people and spend... Bringing Jesus to drunk people, all the time, like so much fun. And that was the closest to experience that again. It was just I forgot how much I love that part. And I'm hoping for Dallin, because I don't want Dallin and Bowen someday going on missions and they'd be so scared of it. I was like, I wanted to explain, that's what we did for two years. Like it was that kind of stuff. And talking about God with people and like trying to share your beliefs. And it was just... Anyway, so it was kind of like deja vu, one of my happiest times of my life again, which was special. Anyway. Matt: Yeah, thank you for that. Guys, I'll say this real quick. I tell you I've met all the social media influence, all of it. This is the most real one out there, study him. I told Caleb, I was like, "Listen, you study Russell, no alternative, do what Russell says. It's not a joke. Study this man right here, because he's been..." The Bible talks about, "There is a man sent from God." He's sent from God for this generation. And you guys getting to be here is very special. So cherish this and thank you, man. You've changed my life as a dad, as a man. I'll never be the same, just these last two days with you, man. Just your example, just the way you let your light shine, just your wisdom, the way you carry yourself, your humility, your kindness. Just, you're such an inspiration to see. It's refreshing to see. And that's something I've always cherished as a dad because I don't like a lot of the fake that I see in the chase of success and the illusion of, everybody wants to be the next Gary V or whatever that is. You know what I mean? He's like, "Why would you want to do it?" But it's like, to me, you've been like the lighthouse in the ocean. You've been like that safe place that I could grab my son. That's why I got into funnel hacking life because it was like, "Yes, this is the one event that's pure. It's real. It's fresh. And the leader of it's real." And even like you come in here, dude, and going to the homeless with us, man, didn't he? I mean, this guy's... Dude, your time alone, there's no telling what an hour is worth to you. So all the time that you invested, thank you so much, man. Seriously. You guys agree with that? Group: Yeah. Learn more about your ad choices. 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Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to introduce you to the exciting conclusion of our World Changers Roundtable podcast. This has been the last three episodes you've had chance to listen to them behind the scenes as Matt Maddix and his son, Caleb, and a bunch of amazing people asked us a ton of questions, and I hope you've been enjoying them.

Now, as I told you guys earlier, this interview went for almost four hours. This next episode is about 45 minutes or so long, actually technically 43 minutes. And for the most part, the interview is great, except for, I think that by that time of night, the batteries and the microphone started dying. And so towards the end, some of the audio is not as clear as possible. So you have two choices. Number one, is listen to it and be like, "Oh, it's all right." Or number two, when you get to the bad audio, just skip to the next podcast. But there's some really cool stuff that happens during that time. So I didn't want to just cut it out because I thought it's just really good stuff I think you're going to enjoy.

So some things to talk about on this episode is my morning routine. Like, what does it look like? How do I do it? How do I shift it around? Another one is I talked about my mission. A lot of you guys know I served a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I spent two years in Jersey knocking doors and I talked about what I learned from that and like the experiences and things like that. We spent a lot of times talking about Operation Underground Railroad and how I got involved and some of the inspiration that came, that led me down the direction we did with that.

I talked about Tim Ballard and some of what he has to deal with as running Operation Underground Railroad and how people are fighting against him and the amazing mission he's doing and how you'll see no matter what mission you're trying to accomplish, Satan and the adversary are always trying to fight against as well. And we talked about how the fact that as you're publishing and you're sharing... One of my big beliefs that comes from scriptures, that your sheep will hear your voice.

And so, there's a lot of cool things and steps. We always talk about owning the devil towards the end. And then we talked about some of the experiences feeding the homeless and the kids and a whole bunch of other stuff. So, anyway, I hope you enjoy this episode. I apologize that some of the audio cuts out at the end, but, you know, battery life. We should be upset at the people who make Lav mic batteries because they're the ones whose batteries died. No, just joking.

But for the most part, hopefully you have a chance to hear it and get some good value from it. Again, I hope you enjoyed this series. We had so much fun doing the interview, and hopefully you got a ton of value for you and for your family. And let me know if you want more of this kind of stuff, this is different than my traditional Marketing Secrets podcast, but hopefully you loved it. If you did, let us know, and we'll continue to make more content like this as well. With that said, we can keep the theme song, we'll jump into four of four of the World Changers podcast interview.

Speaker 2: So I just want to know your daily routine. I just really been getting into my spiritual side, right.

Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2: So just tapping into that, more of the importance of that and doing the morning, and if you do anything.

Russell: Yeah, for me, it's-

Speaker 3: Good question.

Russell: ... weird because one of my close buddies, his morning routine is like four hours long. He literally said it to me. I was like, "Oh my gosh." But he has no kids. And so it's tough because I got five kids. So by seven o'clock it's on. It's on like Donkey Kong. It's crazy. It's like kids and food and... So it's like if I have a morning routine at half 7:00, before 7:00, it doesn't happen. And so, it depends. I go through different cycles. Sometimes if I'm writing, I'll get up at 5:00 because that's like really good time from 5:00 till 7:00 when I'm writing. If I'm not writing usually closer to 6:00 and that's the time where I'm reading.

I've never got into meditation, but I do read scriptures. I read things. I want to, I've never had... I need someone to give me a meditation experience that's like magical. Do you know what I mean? I've tried before, I get the apps or whatever. And I'm like, I feel... or whatever. So I would love to go somewhere and have like a really cool... I've just never had one yet. So it's not part of what I do yet. And I take a lot of supplements. So, after my nighttime, I try to put as much supplements into my body as possible-

Speaker 4: What do you take?

Russell: A lot. I could show you the list. There's a lot.

Speaker 4: Okay.

Matt: Well we do know that protein ice cream is one of them, just to let you know.

Speaker 5: How did you develop your supplement line? Do you have like a DNA doctor or...

Russell: Anthony DiClementi has helped me a lot. I think he's cool. I've done blood tests and stuff like that to shift things. I read a lot, study a lot, try things, test things, see what helps, what doesn't. So, I like having just supplements for my body from morning till noon, just because... I don't know, I feel like it's just absorbing all the amazingness from them. And then seven o'clock hits and that's when it's just like, all right from 7:00 till about 8:30, it's like getting kids ready, driving kids to school. My kids are in four different schools, so it's here, there, back and forth, all sorts of stuff.

Male: Do you take them?

Russell: Yeah, I love it. We do, but I love driving to school. It's my favorite part. Because it's like... Anyway, yeah, I fight to drive them. It's like, sometimes they can bring their friends with them. So I get to hear them talk with their friends. And it's just like a cool time, I get to see them go to school. And I don't know, they're just so cute. They jump out and they try to be all cool when they walk in. It's just, I don't know-

Matt: It's a bonding time. It's driving your kids to school.

Russell: Yeah. And I try to get them in a good state, try to listen to music because school's horrible. I don't know about... I hated school.

Matt: Ahh damn, me too.

Russell: And I know I'm about to send them to the thing I hated the most. So I'm like I need to get them in a good state to listen to music, this type of thing. What are you most excited about after school? And trying to give them something so when they send them to like-

Male: Prison.

Russell: ... Oh yeah. And then, so right now I'm wrestling. I have a tournament next week and I'm wrestling. And so-

Caleb: When can we all watch it?

Russell: I'll send you the footage afterwards…

Matt: We need a private Facebook group, man, where you can Facebook live just as a group.

Russell: We're filming it. If I do all right, I'll show you guys.

Male: Okay.

Russell: So right now, at 8:30 at home, and then one of my wrestling buddies shows up. So from 8:30 to 9:00 we wrestle and just beat the crap out of each other, which is like awesome. When we weren't wrestling it was lifting and stuff like that. And then from then I got like all my focus times done, supplementation, kid time, workout. And then I go to the office and that's where my team time's there. So I got a team, that's where we'll be building stuff, a lot of people and-

Female: What time?

Russell: Let's see 8:30 to 9:30. It's about 10:00, 10:30-ish, I'll show up, a lot of them will show up. And that's when we're doing more stuff together. I mean, it just depends on... He's got crazy ideas and wants to stay later or whatever. But yeah, I use that and then I get home and I try to play dad from then till about 9:00, taking the young kids to bed by 9:00, and then the older kids are a little later. 9:00 till we pass out and my wife and I can actually spend some time together.

Male: Do you work on Sundays or not really?

Russell: I have a church calling and so I'm doing a lot of social media missionary work and generate leads for the church and stuff. So I do that on Sunday, but it's all focused on church stuff.

Male: You did the 2 year missionary thing. Where'd you go?

Russell: New Jersey.

Male: ... and how was it?

Russell: It was amazing.

Male: What did you think about it. What'd you-

Russell: It was the greatest experience of my life. I was telling these guys yesterday... Typically in someone's life it's the most selfish time of your life. 19 years old, what do most 19 year olds do? Like you're thinking about yourself and your… Yeah. So, it's like you literally are taken from that, you're shipped across the country, across the world. They get rid of your name. You're no longer Russell. I became elder, Elder Brunson. White shirt, white tie, yeah. No, I'm not an elder anymore. I'm not an elder anymore. I got released.

But yeah, there's no dating. There's no calling home, none of that stuff. So you're in a spot where you can't do anything for yourself for two years. You can only serve other people. And most people are angry at you for even doing it. And so it's like just a really cool experience where it's not about you for two years. And imagine the shift that makes in your life where now it's like you come back and it's like... Anyway, it shifts everything, there's no way-

Matt: Yeah, because like you were saying to us, if you can... The best training is gospel work, man, is out there talking to people about Jesus-

Russell: Do you want to hear my pitch?

Matt: ... Huh?

Group: Yeah.

Russell: This isn't the real pitch, but this is like... I mean, think about it. It's you knock on their door and you're like, "All right, this is the deal. If you give up alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea, all premarital and extramarital sex, and 10% of your income for the rest of your life, you may get salvation if you don't screw up." Like that's the offer.

Male: Damn.

Russell: So you get home from that and you're like, "I got to sell software. I got to sell Cutco knives." So like pastoral is super easy. That's why all door-to-door salesmen were Mormons. All the companies recruit out of Utah, almost all network marketing companies are founded by Mormons. We love selling. You get home, it's like, "I can use these powers for evil. This is amazing." It's awesome.

Female: So say that one more time. You went so fast. That was great. What was it?

Russell: Alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea, or premarital and extramarital sex, extra like other partners. You can have sex with your wife all you want. And 10% of your income for the rest of your life.

Matt: And then you may make it if you don't screw up. How do you say it?

Russell: Yeah. You may get salvation if you don't screw up-

Male: If you do all that, you can still make it, is what you're saying.

Russell: ... But that's the offer, yeah.

Male: Wow.

Russell: Give up all those things.

Male: What do you think is the most important problem and not being solved today? Or you think needs more attention?

Matt: Good question. I would love to end on human trafficking.

Russell: That was good. Actually, I literally didn't go. Human trafficking is... I mean, I can't think of anything worse than that. You know what I mean? Like, I-

Matt: I'd love for you to share your experiences with Operation Underground. Just some of the behind the scenes, whatever you can. And just some of the stories you've heard and just kind of like why you got into it.

Russell: Yeah. That organization is amazing. Tim Ballard is like an angel. I don't know.

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: And I feel bad for him because he's in a spot where literally Satan is trying to destroy him. So he is giving his life, his blood, his sweat, his tears, like literally putting his life on the line every single day. And you have good intentioned people from around the world trying to destroy him. And so it's like, can you imagine that? Like you're going into the deepest, darkest parts of hell and trying to save little children and that's not the scariest thing. Then you get people attacking you and your character and your family and your life. There's a special place in heaven for him.

Matt: Yeah, I agree.

Russell: He's an amazing human. And so that's what I lead with. But then, man, it's been cool being on this journey just because I believed in miracles before, but the stories, when you hear them coming back from these raids and these missions and the miracles that happen consistently over and over and over again, it's just like... It says in the scriptures, "All things denote that there's a God." And you see these things consistently happening. Like God's hand is in it.

The way I got involved in this whole... It's crazy because I told you, I got a call one day from somebody asked me to be a part of it and I was like, "Yeah, I'd love to help." And so, the first thing I did is, my ego is like oh, I know how to solve this problem. So I'm like, "Okay, we're going to build a funnel." We mapped it out and this whole thing. And I'm supposed to go to Utah to present this to all the guys. And I'm totally in my... Trying to serve, but also at the same time, like, "I know how to do this. This is my thing."

Matt: Yeah, you're the-

Russell: Yeah. And I didn't ask God for advice or opinion. I was just like, "Got it. I'm here. I'm going to do this thing." And it's crazy, the day I'm supposed to be driving to Utah, that morning in the shower and I just had this uneasy feeling like... And first time, am I nervous? I'm nervous. Obviously I'm going to be presenting this. What if they don't like it, whatever? But it was more than that. It was just like, "Ah, something's not..." I don't know something's just not quite right.

So finally, I broke down and prayed. I'm presenting this to these guys, is this the right thing? Would you have me do something different? And I don't know if you guys have felt like inspiration from God before, whatever, it is weird and powerful. In that moment it literally was just like, "That's not what you're supposed to do." And I'm like, "What?" And it was like, "You're supposed to be building a documentary. And Nick Nanton is going to help you film it." And I was like, "Nick Nanton?" I met the guy once six years earlier, in passing at a Genius Network event. Maybe said three words to him. I was like, "I don't know if he knows who I am." And so, I'm sitting there, I literally just got out of the shower. My towel's on, I was like, "Nick Nanton?"

So, I find Facebook, I'm like, "I don't know if we're Facebook friends," and we were. So I was like, send an audio, "Hey man, I don't know if you know who I am or not. But we met one time. I know your documentaries, you're really good at it. So this is crazy. But I don't know if you believe in God or whatever, but I just had this impression I'm going down today to Utah to present this thing, Operational Underground Railroad. I don't know if you've heard of it, you should go look it up. But I had a very, very distinct impression that you were supposed to film a documentary for these guys that's going to change... It's going to save a bunch of kids. Do you want to help?"

And that was the message. And I sent it. And I was like, "Oh," started getting dressed. And then come back a bit later on, on the phone there's a message back from him. He's like, "Dude, I just looked it up," He was like, "I don't know what this is," but he's like, "if you'll cover the hard costs for my team to produce this, I'll do everything else for free. I won't take any royalties, any extras, I'm 100% in."

Matt: Wow.

Male: Wow.

Russell: And I was like, "Okay." And so then I called Jake, my designer, like, "Could you make a DVD cover of a movie because we're about to pitch a movie instead of... It could be a design idea, here's the funnel." Like, "We're not doing any of that." So they're designing the stuff. It's crazy-

Matt: This is the day of?

Russell: ... Yeah. So we're driving down to Utah and anyway, we present it to these guys and it's just crazy. We present it, we filled with the Spirit like it's super powerful. And then we got to make a documentary. So Nick Nanton sinks these guys and like so many miracles are mysterious, crazy.

So they were trying to go... They want to go to Haiti because... Have you guys all seen the Operation Toussaint documentary?

Male: Yes.

Russell: Okay, if you haven't, it'll change your life forever. This is the story-

Male: Have you seen it?

Russell: ... It's the whole Operation Underground Railroad story. And the main story is about this little kid named Gardy, who was stolen from... It was actually a church, his church, his dad was the Bishop of the church and his dad actually owned a business. And he'd fired one of his employees and his employees came to church and knew the kid and was like, "Oh, come here." And to get back at his dad for firing him takes him out and gives him to some people, just to mess with him. And the people were traffickers, took the kid off, shipped him out. And anyway, crazy. Anyway, there's so many stories I could tell you. But anyway, so they went down to go interview Guesno Mardy who's the father because that's how Operation Underground Railroad started because this family, this kid. So we go down to interview him. And as they're interviewing him, a year earlier, Tony Robbins actually went on a sting operation with him to Haiti-

Matt: I want to hear about that a little bit.

Russell: ... I don't know much about it. I just know that I saw a picture of him, he's undercover, he had a beard on, he was in a boat. So Tony went on this thing, they arrested all these traffickers on Superbowl Sunday, arrested all these traffickers. And like three months later, the government let them off.

Matt: At the Superbowl, the government, what?

Russell: No, it was Superbowl Sunday and Tony was in the boat, with Tim, those guys, arresting all the people. And anyway, so they arrested all these people, Tony was there, it was amazing. But there's so much corruption in the Haitian government. So they paid off the people and they let them all go. And so what's crazy is that we're trying to recapture these people, all sorts of stuff.

And anyway, so long story short, Nick Nanton's team fly down to go interview Guesno Mardy. So, fly down to interview Guesno Mardy and they're sitting there interviewing him and all of a sudden Tim gets this thing like we found the head lady of the brothel. We located, we know exactly where she's at. We know where all the girls are at. They refound the people from when Tony did the arrest. And so, Nick's here filming this testimonial video and they're like, "We're going to arrest her tonight. Do you want to be part of it?" And he's like, "What?"

And so they get the cameras out and everything. And Nick's undercover, his whole team. Like a bunch of videographers has showed up and now they're undercover in bulletproof vests and so crazy. But anyway, they're going to arrest these... We have all the footage. If you've seen the documentary, you see all the footage of the stuff they just happened... They were not planning on capturing any of the arrests or anything, it just happened because they were there.

And one of the really cool stories that Tim told me is that as they were pulling up to go arrest her, they're pulling up in the minivan and they've got GoPros hooked everything there, they're filming stuff. And this guy was like, "I need a GoPro on my helmet." And they're like, "We're jumping in the car in 30 seconds to arrest... " And his guy's like, "You have to run right now. I just have this feeling. You have to put the GoPro on my helmet." Like, "Dude, we don't have time to find..." Fine, so they duct tape a GoPro on a thing, click record. And they go, jump out, they arrest this girl.

And what happened in the arrest, they arrest the girl, and as they're arresting them, they find her, she's the kingpin of the whole thing. They arrest her, some of the people around, they don't know where the brothel is. And this guy looks over and he sees this little kid like looking out a door and then he goes back in and like, "I wonder if that's her brothel." So he runs over there and comes in to the brothel and walks in and finds all of these men raping kids, like in the act.

And so people start jumping up and running out and he's like... We're trying to capture people, they all escape. Anyway, it comes out of the things, we found the brothel, we saw the people and it's this horrible thing. And Tim walks over and looks up and he's like, "Dude, look at your helmet." And the GoPros they're flashing and they had video... Like you walked in and saw every single trafficker's face as you walked around the thing. They had the things, they were going there to arrest them.

Matt: Chills.

Russell: And there's so many crazy experiences like that, that happened in every single way. They're crazy, they're just insane things. Every time he comes back, I talk to him like, "Tell me another story." He tells you stories. There's so many miracles that happen just on these journeys and these missions that are... It's just crazy. So anyway, it's powerful. I don't know, it's like the plague of our lifetimes that we've got to figure out how to solve. And I was telling Caleb and Matt, we've got a big project we're working on called the Save a Child Challenge where we're rolling out soon, that I think is going to be-

Matt: You'll love this.

Russell: Anyway. It's going to be big what we're going to be trying to do, but it's trying to shine a huge light on this problem. And we may roll out at Funnel Hacking Live.

Matt: Can I ask you a question, spiritually, when you start getting involved in this, you were talking and sharing with us a little bit yesterday which is some spiritual wisdom because I always say new levels, new devils, but that's a territory that as you know, I mean, when you start getting in that, that's like Satan's number one playground. To me, that's like the whole reason we're going through what we're going through right now is because of the fight over the purity of our children in the future. So, what have you seen Tim go through? Or whoever involved? I know you've had some stories too, man. What are some things that you've seen? And then what's your advice to people that get involved or want to get involved? Maybe tell a few stories.

Russell: I'm trying to think what would be the right ones. It's weird, like a lot of people who've gotten involved in the organization, they get involved, I think, initially for pure reasons. And then things happen. Like initially they actually filmed the whole documentary and documentary series before we started working with them. And the people capture all this footage and then they went insane. It's like just crazy. They wouldn't give the footage, or wanted money, all these things. It was just like when we went to Tim, like the biggest thing is Nick Nanton was like, "There's no money in this for me at all. This is at cost. This is pro bono. This is everything. You own the rights, you can do whatever you want with it."

We're the same way. We came in like, "We're doing this. I want to make sure there's no way that I could ever make money off of this. I don't want any..." And I think it's like... I don't know, people go into these things like looking for how can we make money on this? And it's just crazy. It's insane. I can't fathom it, but it's just crazy.

And since I've been around them, I've seen it happen four or five times, people come in, somebody will have good intentions, they come and do something and then they're like... It's just crazy. I can't even fathom it. And then it's funny because I've watched him, he's been so protective of funds. He looks like he's the guardian of the money that people come in. This is a sacred stewardship for him.

And so much like, their family literally lives in poverty. We chipped in and helped buy them a van because they brought home two Haitian kids they adopted and they needed a bigger car. And like he writes books to be able to fund things. He gets $0 salary from OUR. He also became the head of The Nazareen Fund for Glenn Beck. He's the CEO of The Nazareen Fund. So he's running these huge charities, huge organizations, gets $0 salary, but he writes these books so his family could eat. He does these different things.

And so you got people coming in like, "Oh, he's just doing this to sell his books, all these things." He's just like-

Matt: God bless him, man.

Russell: "Literally I'm trying to feed my family and I'm working for free saving thousands of kids." And just like crazy-

Matt: Going places nobody else will go.

Russell: And so you see people attacking him. In Utah it's on the news. Like, "Oh..." It's just insane to me. And so it's like the more pure, the more good you're trying to do, it's like swimming upstream. And so it's just like, "Man, we need more of us. People like us who love, who understand, who care, who are on the same mission to help support and help push. Because I can't imagine swimming that stream by myself." You know what I mean?

Male: It's easier not to get involved.

Matt: Yeah, exactly.

Male: It's easier to stay out of it and keep... Because once you get dug into that... Oh, just thinking about it just makes me sick.

Female: How do you get involved?

Male: Oh, there's so many ways and we'll talk about it after, but there's just... With Tim, here's what's crazy is, we've worked with OUR and the things that we did out here, and it's crazy how I heard stories about Tim that people would make up stories about how he's this person and he's involved in this and he's in... And you're like, "How sick." I mean, you're talking about satanic, like where people take somebody doing something so beautiful and you start hearing this person's involved in this. And somebody says something about me. And then I got one of the most powerful people in Arizona making a comment about me. And you're just like, "This is..." You're doing good, this guy's doing good. He sacrificed, he's put himself in harm's way. And it's disgusting.

I was once asked by a reporter, they said... They tried to make me out to be conspiracy theorist about child sex trafficking. Of course it was never anything good. And they go, "Do you think anybody higher ups involved?" And I said, "Really? If you and I don't pay our taxes, do they send us a letter or they show up at our door, IRS?" Yeah. I said, "How does $150 billion industry go untaxed?" And he was just like, "Okay." And he changed the whole topic. The reporter didn't want to report on that.

And then, they attack, they attack, they attacked. And from our rallies that we did last year, along with OUR, worked hand in hand with them, love, amazing. I had one of the guys from the Dream Center, one of the largest rehab centers come up to me just the other week. I met him at an event and he said, “Adel, I know who you are." And I was like, "Really?" He's like, "Yeah," he's like, "you have no idea just from doing what you guys did the amount of money that was donated to our center." I said, "Really? Because they were writing how bad we were for raising awareness about child sex trafficking." He said, "Man, we could have spent millions of dollars on marketing and withdrawn so much money." He's like, "I have to take you out." I said, "I don't want you to take me out." I said, "Thank God." I said, "You just made my night, man. That was the best thing I've ever heard that just..." And he was like, "No, you have no idea. I seriously can't even tell you how much money it brought in." He's like, Mommas Miracle Movement, started emailing all those people," I was like, "Yeah." He's like, "They changed everything."

So, my point being is, it's easier not to get involved with child sex trafficking because you get in there and you start... One day before a rally, one of my family members got exploited on social media and it's crazy because it had never happened. And as you're doing a rally, thousands of people showing up raising money, doing this and that, next thing, you know what happens, it's somebody in my family. And I get a message...

Matt: Yeah, he packs the rallies here, y'all. You need to go to one of his rallies, they're powerful, if you've ever been…

Male: That's just evil. But I don't want to take away from what you're saying… But, God bless you, man, for fighting with them and doing everything. Because that's what we're doing, God's work at the end of the day and that's all you're going to do.

Matt: Yeah. And it's exciting to see other people involved, young men out there. So what grabbed your heart on it? What was the initial like, "I'm going to do something. I'm not just going to stand back"?

Russell: I didn't know about it. We were wanting to get involved, it kind of explained a little bit. And so, that night I remember going online and reading about it and watching some videos and stuff. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I had no idea that any of this was happening." And how can you not after you... I remember that night I was vlogging, I said to someone, I was like, "I'm pretty sure this is going to change the direction of my life forever."

Matt: Did you feel that?

Russell: Yeah. It was just like, "How can you not?" If your kid was taken, what would you do? I can't imagine that. When someone says something mean to my kids, I'm ready to go blow up the school, you know what I mean?

Matt: Do you think it's going to come to a point... I agree. Do you think it's going to come to... The world has to shut down until we find these kids. In other words-

Russell: Christ has to come again.

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: I mean, honestly.

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: Until he comes again, it's… do our best until... Anyway.

Matt: But I'm talking in my life, where I'm talking about nothing about shutting, I'm talking about, where we all say... You know how if a child comes up missing everybody in the community will come together to where we say, "Okay, for the next 30 days, every veteran, every person that believes in children and our future, we're going to use every ounce of energy and focus to find these children because there's got to be a way. There's got to be a way, isn't there? Or are they just locked up? Is it just too hard?"

Russell: I don't know. The most of it, it's tough because they don't... That was my big fear initially when I got involved with Tim. I was just like, "If somebody had stole my kid..." And he's like, "That's not how it works." He's like, "It happens sometimes." Because the traffickers don't want to pick a high profile person with a bunch of monies and they can search you and take you out. He's like, "The kids they exploit, because they take the ones that don't have parents, the parents don't have money. They don't have the resources. They can take them, there's not implications, because they just want to sell the kid. They make the money selling their product." So it's like they're not looking for... The people they go after, people that don't have a voice, they can't fight back.

It's like that's where a lot of that stuff's happening. And it's the Americans who are flying to different places, different countries to where they can... Yeah, that's what's messed up. The Americans are the ones who are the-

Matt: Do you think you'll ever go on a mission or-

Russell: ... We're planning on going... I was supposed to go on one this year with them and then COVID hit and I've been nervous. Because that's the thing is like, you watched it on film and it's horrible. I can't imagine seeing the kids. I don't know. But at the same time, you'll get the work of the Village Impact. We donated money to Village Impact and then when I went there and experienced it, it changed me, man. It became part of me, you know what I mean? So part of me wants to do that because I feel like for me to be able to help next level, it has to… Yeah, you have to sit in the pain to be able to figure out a solution, as hard as that is. So I think I will, at some point.

Matt: Did you feel the... Speaking of the Atlas, that's probably one of the things where Atlas, I felt that.

Male: Yeah, I know I did.

Matt: Yeah. And you, I mean, and I just wondered, like you said, you feel like you could do so much, and then you look at... You ever meet Jaco Booyens?

Russell: Mm-mm (negative).

Matt: Do you know who he is? He was on the White House Sex Trafficking Council. His sister was rescued. I think he rescued her after 26 years or something-

Russell: Oh, wow.

Matt: ... Something crazy, great guy. But he's been fighting for a long time. I remember when we first got into it, he was just like, "Man, you can literally want to do everything," but he's like, "you just have to focus on some part because there's so much to this." And I don't know, did you feel that too, as being involved? Because you feel like you're so powerful in a lot of things you can do when you talk about inspiring entrepreneurs, but how does it feel despite what do you-

Russell: There's something like, whatever, two million children are done, it's like I think I said... When I met OUR they helped 1,000 kids. Now you have like four or 5,000-

Matt: Think about that. 1,000 kids.

Russell: ... And it's amazing being like two million.

Matt: 1,000. So, there's still two million you're saying.

Male: I really love how you're so open about your faith and it's really something that's evident in everything you do. So I just wanted to ask where that really comes from, in your life?

Russell: A couple of things. One, yeah, I honestly believe it's true. So, that's important. Number two, I feel like if I don't acknowledge His hand in what's happening, like... And as a father now it's weird but I think one of the reasons why God has us be parents is because we get a little glimpse of ourselves. Like I look at my kids, I can give them everything in the world and like made, and all of something that I do it means the world. If I don't, it's just like, it hurts. And it's like, I feel like if I don't acknowledge the gifts, like, I don't think you have your gifts. You know what I mean? I'm a big believer that... I think all of us as we, especially in this entrepreneur world, but in all parts of life, it's like I'm looking for the next step and the ideas and things like that.

And it's not something I'm remembering, it's like things are being handed. So it's like, where's that coming from? It's not my own. I never read a book that said this was the path, but it's showing up. Like the answer's there. It's coming from God. And I feel like God gives us ideas. And then we're either a good steward of those ideas or we’re bad. Like we take it and we do something with it, then he gives us more. And if we do something again, like it keeps moving forward. And it's just like, I feel like if we don't acknowledge Him, if we're not grateful for those things... I don't want those ideas to stop because then I'm troubled and I can't do my mission. Right?

Male: Yeah.

Russell: And it’s the mission he gave me, right? Tthat's a big part of it.

Number two, I think that, for me, I think more people want to talk about it and they're scared of it. And I think when I do it, then I think more people feel empowered to do it. And then that's great because I think people should be, we all should be doing that. And there's so much negative talk and people talking about every horrible thing out in the world and no one's talking about God. Like that's messed up.

Matt: Yeah, God is the coolest conversation.

Russell: Yeah, so if I give other people permission to do it, because I have that effect of like, "Man, I can't believe you did that." Like, "I'm going to say something." Like, "Good. That's awesome. Let me be the bad guy if that's what it takes. I'm okay with that." So those are some of the things. And I don't know, I think it's interesting because like anything I do, I post anything related. There's always some people like literally messages, like, if you post about God, that's a hard out or something. I'm like, "Whatever. All right."

But the majority is people like, "Thank you." Even if they're like, "I don't have the same beliefs as you, but thanks for... It's cool that you want to share it." It's rarely been negative. It's been really positive. So the more I do it, the more the positive comes from it. I'm like, "Okay, this is not a bad thing."

And the same thing, I'm a big believer in this. So Christ in, I think the book of John said, "The mighty sheep will hear my voice. And they will follow me." And I think that's true for in all our businesses. For me, my sheep will hear my voice and they follow me. Your sheep will hear, it's okay. So, if I'm going to speak and someone's offended by me, doesn't listen, that's okay. They don't have to follow me, they're my sheep, right? Maybe they like Grant Cardone, go for it. If that's your flavor, go for it. I'm not called to serve you. I'm called to serve these people.

And so if I'm not willing to talk about the things that are important to me, then my people aren't going to hear me. And so I think it's an eternal principle that Christ taught. And he had tons of people, they crucified him, they didn't love him. But he still shared the things that his sheep heard him. And they came to him and they followed him. And like all of us, we've each been called to serve a group of people. So it's like for those people, be you and your sheep will hear your voice and they'll come to you. And own it. So anyway, that's my beliefs.

Male: Thank you.

Matt: We're all World Changers. We want to do something big. What is one question or one thing that we need to know that we didn't ask, that you feel like you guys missed the ball? This is a good question. What do we not know that we don't know? Just the whole thing.

Russell: Let me talk about the car on the way here. Like it's probably because I’m geeking out on this book right now, it's like my favorite book. But if you read Outwitting the Devil, it's like literally one of the greatest books of all time. Yesterday we talked about backstory of it. Do you guys know Napoleon Hill? Think and Grow Rich?

Male: Oh, yeah.

Russell: Think and Grow Rich. In 1929, 1930, he wrote this book called Outwitting the Devil. And it's a book where you literally... Well, literally in the book, he has this conversation with the devil asking him like, "How do you get people..." He calls them... "To become drifters? To fall away, to not have success? Like, what are you doing?" And it's like, he's got Satan, he's got the devil where he's like interviewing him like in a courtroom. And the devil has to answer every question he has. So he's asking these questions, like, "How do you do it? What's it look like?" And it's one of the most fascinating conversation of all time.

Matt: It is.

Russell: It's amazing. So it's crazy because he asked these questions and Satan's like... The devil literally says, "It's like 98% of the children, man, I control." He calls them drifters. He says, "Get people to drift. And after they drift, I control them, I own them." There's only 2% of people aren't drifters. He calls these people, people who have... I'm doodling in my new book. Yes, a definitive purpose. Perfect.

He talks about Think and Grow Rich as well. But in this it goes deeper. So only 2% of the world has definitive purpose. They have a purpose moving forward is the plan. And the book's amazing because it's talking about... Like here's all this, right. And you've got two options, and it's fear and respect. So fear is what he uses to get us to become drifters. Like I'm afraid of being poor, being unhealthy, all these things. Six fears he uses to get somebody to shift and to become a drifter. And 98% of people are drifters, and 2% of people who have... Say it again?

Male: A definitive purpose.

Russell: And it's really important. And that's faith. So he talks about in every situation you can take fear or faith. And fear makes us the drifter. Faith makes us definitive purpose. So it's like that's the thing. And so it's fear and faith. And so every situation, think about just like... Not to get political or social, what's this... COVID, what's happened. Everyone comes, it's like fear or faith. Like that's the option everyone has. And if they take fear, what happens? But it's in all aspects. In marriage, in a relationship, in business, fear and faith is the thing. And every time you take fear, you become a drifter. And you take faith you're moving forward with definitive purpose, you have a success. And it's crazy because he talks about all the things he does to get people to shift into drifting and how to keep them there.

And then the point he'll ask him, he's like, "Well, if someone is definitive purpose, are they free from your control?" The devil, he says, "No." He's like, "As soon as they're definitive purpose, they've got all sorts of tools to get them to become drifters." And one of these examples is, for example, they make a bunch of money that they're following their path. And then I get them to go start eating more. They're successful. They eat more and they gain more weight. They start getting unhealthy, losing their desire and they shift and become drifters. And I own them then.

Or they have too much money. Or they get into sex or drugs or all these sort of things. And all the things he uses to get people who have definitive purpose to become drifters again.

Male: Wow.

Russell: And so, for me, I've been reading that. I read the book three or four times in the last couple of months. And I made diagram, all the things. What are all the things that he uses to make people become drifters? What are the things that I need to do to move to definitive purpose and what are all the temptations he uses? Because he go through all of that in the book. It's insane. And so, for me, it's like, "Okay, how do we get ourselves to the spot where, in every decision that we encounter, we move to faith and not fear?Because that's the thing. And it's-

Female: Staying present.

Russell: ... It's cool. Yeah.

Matt: It's what?

Female: It's staying present, in the moment, like realizing what you're thinking and then you have a choice.

Russell: Yeah. Because most people, the default's fear.

Female: Because you're in that path to the future.

Russell: Yeah.

Female: Anyway.

Russell: It was like… how do we get our minds to the spot where we consciously choose moving forward to faith and not fear in all things? And how do we protect ourselves so that when we are and have definitive purpose of moving forward, trying to become World Changers, we're trying to do these things, we don't slip back over? As soon as you get some success... Someone came with this at dinnertime... Just like I've been doing this now 18, 19 years. And the amount of people in those years that have had successes and crashes, back and forth. Like there's not many people that have been doing this as long as me, because most of them, they have that success and then become drifters. It's insane. I can tell you hundreds and hundreds of people who I've seen on this road who are making insane amounts of money, very successful and then they're gone. Where are they at?

Male: They're broke, or where did they go?

Russell: Not here.

Female: So Russell, it's your character, is that what you're saying?

Russell: What's that?

Female: Like your character that keeps you like that?

Russell: Yeah, character and just consistently like not shifting to... Like understanding, like how do you not shift? How do you not quit? How does someone have a business making millions of dollars a year and then they're broke? You had all the skills, you had all the things. What are the things that he's doing with it that are keeping us from that? I think most time we're not aware of it. And that book was the best thing I've ever read. It keeps you aware of it. These are the things he's doing.

Male: Wow.

Female: What turns you off?

Matt: Yeah, what turns you off, Russell Brunson?

Russell: People that just want to make money. We used to do this, smaller events in a room. I would look in five minutes who would be successful and who wouldn’t. Like the questions they're asking. Like they're trying to make money, they rarely made money. They're there because like, "Hey I've got this cool product, here I am." I believe in this thing, it was like huge factors. You get the random ones who still make money and they do make money. But for the most part yeah, it's just, I don't know. I feel like it's such a gift. Like the entrepreneur personality type we have, it's like such a gift that can be used for good or for evil by so many... I don't know, so many people use it stupidly. They use it selfishly.

Matt: Yeah, so was that amazing?

Group: Wow.

Matt: There's a lot of people that would love to spend this much time with Russell Brunson in this kind of an intimate setting. Just thank you, seriously, for all you poured out.

Russell: You told me this was going to be the best podcast interview I ever did and it's made my day.

Matt: You think so?

Russell: You promised me that…

Male: For an introvert this must have took a lot of energy.

Matt: Okay, real quick, for those that maybe who were watching, real quick, describe just some... Next few minutes before we leave, like your experience in the streets of the homeless visits and what it was like for your boys to get to be around Caleb and all that? And just what was that like for you?

Russell: Yeah, for those who know, we brought my twins who I love them, but man, they've been... Having teenagers has been like the challenge of my life so far. It's so much harder than business and so I try to figure this puzzle. In fact, I don't know... I haven't told you this yet. So have you guys read Shoe Dog?

Group: Yeah.

Russell: So yeah, by-

Group: Phil Knight.

Russell: ... Yeah. In the book, one of his sons hates him. You know what it's like. You talk about headaches. He refused to wear Nike shoes, he only wore Reeboks, all sorts of stuff. And then later, at 32, I think, died in a scuba diving accident. And at the end of the book, he finishes his life story. And he talks about the only regret he ever had in life was that he never figured out the puzzle of his son.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: And when I read that it hit me like, Dallin specificly. It's just like I had this kid, I love him. Like I remember praying and like everything I went through to be able to get him here and then all the years growing up in his spot now where I can't figure him out. I love him and I care about him. I want him to... And just like everything I had tried seems like it pushes it the opposite way and like trying to figure out this puzzle. And so for me, one, super grateful just because I saw Dallin light up so much around you, Caleb, you have no idea how much, internally, I am grateful to you for that. Seeing Bowen, my son who's traditionally more awkward and nervous and seeing him light up and trying to hypnotize people. He told me, he's like, "I think that I'm literally a better person because of this trip and it's all your fault. Anyway, so it was just special because like of all the... Like I say this almost every time I speak, no success can compensate for failure at home. And there's times where I'm like, "I'm failing in my home. I don't want to do. I can't figure out this puzzle." Like I've tried.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: I've gone through every parent report, everything. And I'm just like this just perplexed to the point where I just want to go hide in the office because I'm like, "This is so easy to do this." And anyway, I feel like just the last two days for me has been like... I feel like you're looking over my shoulder and helping me move the puzzle pieces around... Hey, I feel like there's hope again. I'm grateful for that.

I think for them, it's really cool for them to see. I thought their experience was going to be more like, "Oh my gosh, we're homeless." But it was different than I thought, in a good way.

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: Like before I was like, after first night, I'm kind of walking away and saying, "How's this been for you?" Thinking he was going to be like, "Oh, it's freaky." He was like, "It's so cool that I want to give everyone here a hug." And I was like, "Oh, my gosh." I thought it was going to be so scary, like intense, whatever. But it was the opposite. And Dallin's a little more quiet about it. But you can see him... It was special. So yeah, that was that from the kid's side.

And from my personal side, it was just... I think the last time I experienced something like this was on the mission 20 years ago when I was in Jersey knocking doors and spent time in Camden and some of these areas that were similar to this and it was just... And I haven't done that for-

Matt: Brought back something.

Russell: ... Yeah. And we used to knock on doors and go talk to people and spend... Bringing Jesus to drunk people, all the time, like so much fun. And that was the closest to experience that again. It was just I forgot how much I love that part. And I'm hoping for Dallin, because I don't want Dallin and Bowen someday going on missions and they'd be so scared of it. I was like, I wanted to explain, that's what we did for two years. Like it was that kind of stuff. And talking about God with people and like trying to share your beliefs. And it was just... Anyway, so it was kind of like deja vu, one of my happiest times of my life again, which was special. Anyway.

Matt: Yeah, thank you for that. Guys, I'll say this real quick. I tell you I've met all the social media influence, all of it. This is the most real one out there, study him. I told Caleb, I was like, "Listen, you study Russell, no alternative, do what Russell says. It's not a joke. Study this man right here, because he's been..." The Bible talks about, "There is a man sent from God." He's sent from God for this generation. And you guys getting to be here is very special. So cherish this and thank you, man. You've changed my life as a dad, as a man. I'll never be the same, just these last two days with you, man. Just your example, just the way you let your light shine, just your wisdom, the way you carry yourself, your humility, your kindness. Just, you're such an inspiration to see. It's refreshing to see.

And that's something I've always cherished as a dad because I don't like a lot of the fake that I see in the chase of success and the illusion of, everybody wants to be the next Gary V or whatever that is. You know what I mean? He's like, "Why would you want to do it?" But it's like, to me, you've been like the lighthouse in the ocean. You've been like that safe place that I could grab my son. That's why I got into funnel hacking life because it was like, "Yes, this is the one event that's pure. It's real. It's fresh. And the leader of it's real."

And even like you come in here, dude, and going to the homeless with us, man, didn't he? I mean, this guy's... Dude, your time alone, there's no telling what an hour is worth to you. So all the time that you invested, thank you so much, man. Seriously. You guys agree with that?

Group: Yeah.

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]]> 3019 no The Roundtable of World Changers (Part 3 of 4) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-roundtable-of-world-changers-part-3-of-4 The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part three of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you've been enjoying this series so far. This is The Roundtable of World Changers, a conversation I had with Matt and Caleb Maddix, and a whole bunch of young entrepreneurs, who are literally out there trying to change the world. This is part three of a four part episode, because the conversation went for three or four hours. And so, this episode's also going to be about 40 minutes long, and it's the next set of questions they asked me. And if you've listened to the last two, you know that these guys ask a lot of questions, in a lot of different directions, and angles, and went all over the place. And I think this time is probably 01:00 or 02:00 in the morning. And so, the questions started going from everywhere, from business, to relationships, to families, and a whole bunch more. So I hope you enjoy this next episode. Here's some of the bullet points of things you're going to learn about. We talked about the 10 commandments of marketing. I talked about my very first mentor, and a thing he taught me, not just to make money in the short term, but how to build a business that now has lasted me for almost two decades. I talk about one of my friends and mentors, Daegen Smith and something that he taught me. It was so simple, yet it's been the key to help me get thousands of people a day to join my email list. We talked about leadership, delegation, scheduling. We talk about, as you're building a team, understanding people's unique abilities. Talked about how much time you spend thinking about the future. Talked about proximity with billionaires. We also talked about how to balance your business and married life, so you can be a good husband and a good father, which is something that I stress about all the time. We talked about a principle that I learned from Stacey and Paul Martino, that has been one of the most powerful things I've learned, which is called demand-relationship. I talk about that. We talk about some relationship tricks, for those who are either married or getting married. Some of the newlyweds, and the engaged couples, were asking some questions about that. Hopefully I don't get in trouble for sharing some of my tricks. We talked about knowing what your values are, and your priorities. Talked about being vulnerable, and being honest, versus staying positive through challenges. We talked about some of the biggest principles and things I learned from Tony Robbins, including how to change your state whenever you need to. And we talked about my 12 year relationship with Tony Robbins, and all the things behind that. We talked about... I don't want to spoil any more. You guys, this is a fun interview. And hopefully, you've been enjoying these so far. So with that said, we're going to cut to the theme song. When we come back, we're going to take you guys immediately back into this conversation. This is, again, The Roundtable of World Changers, part three of four. Matt Maddix: Let's say there was a Russell Brunson 10 commandments. You know how God had one. Russell: Thou shall build a list. Matt: Yeah. How high is this in the 10 commandments? Russell: My first mentor, Mark… Matt: And what would be some of the Russell Brunson... Let's come up with some of them. Like, "Thou shalt..." Russell: We need some stone tablets. Matt: "To all the funnel hackers, thou shalt and thou shall not." I want to hear- Russell: That would be a fun presentation, actually. Matt: Yeah, that would be, actually. Caleb Maddix: That would be. Russell: That would be cool. Matt: Dude, you need to do that. Russell: Come back from the mountain, we have 10 things. Matt: Yeah, seriously. Caleb: Wow. That'd be awesome. Matt: No, the five 'thou shalts', and like, "Thou shall..." and then- Russell: "Thou shall..." Matt: ..."Thou shall not, no matter what..." What would some of those be? Russell: That could be a really cool presentation, actually. Well, so I would say, in my first venture was Mark Joyner, and he was the one... So in context, in history, 18 years when I started, Mark Joyner... I don't think it's probably known. He's brilliant. But he built a company, and sold it off. And at the very end of his career as a coach person, I got to meet him and get to know him a little bit. But I remember, at that time, Google AdSense was this thing that came. And so, if any of you guys are old enough, just try and remember the Google AdSense days. It was insane. They were software. You click a button on software, it would pop out of site, pop out another site. And these sites would make anywhere from 100 to $1000 a day. And you just keep clicking this button, it would pop out another site. And so, people were making $1 million a month. They had teams in the Philippines, that these guys just clicking the button to build the software. It was just... But it was all fake. But it was tons of money. Insane amounts of money. I had friends making so much money. And shiny object, very shiny object, the most sexy shiny object of all time. You click a button, you can make $1 million. That was it, that was the pitch. And it was true. Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: For so... Everyone I knew. Can you imagine that? Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: If I go back in time, 18 years ago, I would move to the Philippines, I would hire everybody, and we would just click buttons. And I would've been- Caleb: Wow. Russell: ...a billionaire. It was- Caleb: Wow. Russell: It was insane. That's how Google got people adopting the AdSense program. So people would put ads on every single site, every single everything. And so, I'm getting in this game, I'm seeing this, and I'm morons making insane amounts of money. And I was like, "Ah!" And Mark had just become my mentor, the very first time, and he's like, "That's going to go away. Focus on building a list." I'm like, "But this guy's a moron. He made $1 million last month clicking a button. No strategy, no brains, no nothing." He's like, "I know, but it's going to go away. Focus on building a list." I'm like- Matt: Wow. Russell: But- Matt: Seriously? Russell: "He's clicking a button. Building lists is hard." He's like, "Build a list." I'm like... And I remember fighting him and fighting him, he's just like, "Dude, trust me. I've been on cycle. It's going to go away. Just focus and focus." And I was so upset, but I listened because I do that. One thing I pride myself on, I'm very coachable. Coach tells me something, I do it. I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. Matt: I love it. Russell: They tell me to do it, I do it, right? So I was like, "Ah, but there's free money in piles-" Matt: Even when it's hard- Russell: "All right." Matt: ...you do it. Russell: So I did it. And sure enough, I was doing that, and doing that, within six months, this things collapsed, disappeared, destroyed people's lives. Because you're making $1 million a month clicking buttons, what do you do? Especially as a young kid. Matt: Spending that much money. Russell: You're buying Lambos, and Ferraris, and helicopters, and pilots, and girls, and insane amounts of money. And then it disappears overnight. Devastating, ruined these guys, ruined them, so many people. Matt: There’s no skill behind that at all. Russell: Yeah. And I had a list, and I just coasted through it. Right? And I've looked at the SEOs, every single up and down, up and down, through the years, and I just listened to Mark and just focused on building my list, focused on building it, and- Matt: So you still feel that as strong today, as when you heard it? Russell: 100%. Matt: Even then. Russell: 100%. That’s one of our KPIs. How many people doing lists today? Every single day. Matt: Really? Everyday? Russell: Everyday. Because I did it for a long time- Matt: Even now, you're saying? Russell: 100%, everyday. John Parkes everyday sends me a number. “How many people joined our list yesterday?” That’s all I want to know. Caleb: What's your guys' email open rates? Russell: It fluctuates. 20 ish percent. Caleb: Okay. Russell: Around there. But it was funny because I remember, I had forgotten that lesson after a while. And if you guys know Daegen Smith, Daegen, he's getting back in the game now. He's brilliant. But I remember I had a list, and I was my money off of it. I wasn't focusing on it. And I remember he asked me a question, he said, "How many..." It wasn't, "How many people are on your list?" Because that's what most people ask, "How big's your list?" But he asked me a different question, which input output, right? Matt: Yeah. Russell: The question was, "How many people joined your list today?" And I was like, "I don't know." He's like, "Go look right now." I'm like, "Okay." So I log in, and look at the thing, it was like 12. And I was like, "12?" And I was like, "Is that good or bad? I don't know." And he's like, "Let me show you mine." And he showed me his, and it was like 1400. And I was like, "You had 1400 people join today?" He's like, "Yeah." "Wait, how'd you do that?" He's like, "I just look at it everyday. And when I look at it everyday, somehow it grows." And I was like- Matt: Wow. Russell: "Okay." So then, everyday, after I log in and look at my thing, it was like 12, I'm like, "Ah." In my head, I'm like, "Fricken Daegen had 1400. I only 12." Caleb: Yeah. Matt: Wow. Russell: And also, I was like, "What do I do to get people to join the list?" Matt: Yeah, start optimizing. Russell: And then, your mind starts thinking differently, and all of a sudden you start focusing on it. And it's crazy. I can't tell you how many entrepreneurs, that have been in my world, who have gone up and then come down. And what happens, mostly, is they do something, they build a big list, they stop adding fuel to the fire, they have this list, they sell things to the list, the list atrophies, and eventually starts shrinking and dying. And then, they don't know how to build lists, the business crashes and dies. Matt: I hope you guys are really listening. Really. I mean, he's- Caleb: That's powerful. Matt: ...saving your life right now. Russell: The question, the goal, every single day, is that, because it's a fuel to your fire. And what happens was you stop putting fuel on the fire, and it doesn't die immediately. So you're like, "Oh, I've turned off Ads, so I'm good. But I'm just going to focus on emails, let's focus that." But just every email you send out, your list atrophies, shrinks, dies. And then, eventually, it'll just die. And so, yeah, if you're not consistently, constantly feeding the list, every single day- Matt: And once you have the list, what's the biggest mistake people make with their list? Russell: They don't email it. Matt: Yeah. Russell: They're scared to... You think it's too much emails. It's not, it's the opposite. It's that they don't email. Caleb: Okay. Russell: Minimum of three times a week. Closer to everyday. Matt: Wow. Russell: If you talk to Daegen, it's twice a day, everyday. Matt: Really? Caleb: What other KPIs do you have sent to you every single day? Russell: I want to know how much we made yesterday, striped. Because first off, it's cool to know. Caleb: Yeah. Russell: But second off, also it's like, I want that number to be bigger everyday. So it's like, actual money in the thing, how many people joined the list today, and how many books are sold, how many ClickFunnels members. Those are the ones for me. Our teams have other KPIs they focus on. But those are the ones I care about. Matt: So out of 30 days, when you hear the numbers, how often are you pissed and how often are you like, "Yeah."? Russell: Nowadays, it's always pretty good. Matt: Nowadays, it's like, "Woo." Russell: Because it might go up or down a little bit, but the numbers are big enough, that it's just like, "That's so crazy." I remember... Anyway. I remember just the growth of ClickFunnels, because you know Stripe dings every day with your numbers. I remember when we started going, it got to the point where it's like $10,000 a day, I was like, "$10,000 a day is insane. That's just so cool." And then, it got to a point where it's like $20,000 a day, and then 30, and then $50,000 a day, and then $100,000 a day, and then 150, then 200, 250, 300. I'm just like, "This is insane to me, that this is a daily thing that come..." it was just... Anyway, that's when it got just weird. And it makes me mad because Todd made a commitment to me, that as soon as we passed $500,000 a month in sales, he'd move to Boise. Matt: And he didn't yet? Russell: No. So... Matt: You were out of there already. Russell: And then, I was like, "Well, we have $500,000 a day." And then, he still hasn't come. So I don't know. Some day. Do you think Todd will ever move to Boise? Speaker 4: Plus I'm curious if I could pop in to ask a question. Russell: Yeah, feel free. Speaker 4: I've always wanted to ask someone of your stature, that's done as much as you have, impacted as much people as you have, and really built the business that you have. So I'm curious on your take on leadership, building a team, delegating, and your schedule and how you go about scheduling your day, and prioritizing what's important for you, as a business owner, and what you delegate to your employees and their responsibilities as well. So leadership, delegating, and scheduling. Russell: Good question. It's interesting because I would say I'm not the best leader on my team, by any stretch. And so, it was interesting because I spent the first four or five years with ClickFunnels as the CEO, trying to do my best with it. But it wasn't my unique ability, is leadership. I feel like I'm good at leading a community, but I struggle a lot more with employees and teams, internally. And so, about a year ago or so, I handed the reins to Dave Woodward, to be the CEO of ClickFunnels. And he's been amazing. Man, what he's done inside the company has been awesome. And I think a big part of it is understanding, at least for me personally, I was trying to be a leader, and trying to develop that, but I wasn't the best at it. And I think sometimes we think it's always got to be us. Like, "It's my company, I got to be the CEO. I got to be the leader. I got to do these things." It's understanding that a lot of times there's people who are really good. Who's the best you could find to be that? Or any part of our business. You know what I mean? It's a big part of it. The second thing is, if you've studied Dan Sullivan at all, one of his biggest things is unique ability. That's the thing. What's your unique ability? What's everybody's unique ability? And I think when you start a company, it's tough because it's like everyone's in charge of everything, right? I'm the CEO, but I'm also taking out the garbage, I'm also doing... everyone's Speaker 4: Yeah. Russell: ...doing a little bit of everything, which is cool. When you're scrappy in the beginning, that's important, and everyone's doing that. But as you grow, that starts hindering you more and more and more, where we had people who are insanely talented, who if I could just get them doing this thing, 100% of the time... And that's when it got to the point with ClickFunnels, is that my unique abilities are writing, are being in videos, are building funnels, doing the... Those things are my unique abilities. Caleb: Engineering. Russell: Yeah. And I was spending maybe 10% of my time on that, and 90% of the time in meetings, and trying- Matt: Wow. Russell: ...coordinate people, and leadership. And it was stressful and it was hard. Matt: And you were draining. You were probably drained doing that. Russell: Yeah. And I was miserable, that was just... I wasn't good at it. Not feeling good, like, "Ah, I'm not getting through to people. I can't figure this out." But I felt like I had to own, I had to be the guy, I had to do the thing because this is my baby, this is my business. And the last 12 months has been crazy, because I handed it to someone who actually is good at that, that is his unique ability. And I'm watching company structure, and meetings, and KPIs, things that I was never super good at doing, and consistently having it all happening now. And now, I'm in the marketing department again, and I'm building funnels. People are like, "What do you do all day?" I'm literally in ClickFunnels, building funnels. "No, but you have funnel builder..." No, I'm literally in ClickFunnels, building funnels. I didn't start this business because I wanted to be a CEO of a big huge company. I did it because I love building funnels. I'm an artist, when it comes down to it, this is my art. Matt: Wow. Russell: And that's what I get to do now. And it's amazing. So Dan's got Fridays we book out, and we spend videos, he's got a whole bunch of YouTube videos, we film five or six YouTube vlogs last week, on Friday. So we have that times blocked out to do that, right? I'm writing my next book right now, so I've got my mornings blocked out to write books, because that's when my mind's got not a million things so I can do that. And then, after morning comes in, after I do my wrestling practice, I come in. And that's my teams there, and that's when we're building funnels. I got my designer and my copywriter, the people, and I get to facilitate that. And I feel like the... What's the guy in the orchestra, the maestro? Caleb: Conductor? Russell: Yeah, like I'm the conductor, I'm conducting all these talented people. And everyone's bringing... And I'm alive, and it's exciting. And at night, I can't sleep, because I'm excited again. And so, I think that's the biggest thing, is taking the pressure off yourself if you're not the best leader. That's okay. What are you the actual best at? And success, in business, I think, at least for me, I always thought I had to be the best at everything. And it's the opposite, where it's like, "How do you focus on the thing you're best at? And get the rest of the people around you." Speaker 4: Yeah. And it gets- Matt: And it's... You had to have been willing to let go of your ego, man. Or you wouldn't have been able to grow so much. If you try to do it all yourself... Caleb: So I have a question. How much time do you spend actually thinking about the future? Because it seems like, from what you've told us, you're very dialed in and obsessed on the process, and that's how you've gotten to where you are, up to this point, because you're in love with the game. How much of your time do you spend thinking about the future, and what's on the horizon next year, five years, 10 years? Does that cross your mind? Or what does that look like? Russell: It's interesting, I can't remember who was talking to about this... The further out you look, the fuzzier it gets. You know what I mean? And so, I think for me, it's like we have... I know where I want to go, but the in between is really, really fuzzy, right? It's hard to know. And so, it's like I know... For me, the last big boat was $100 million, the next one's a billion. So we know there's the thing. But it's so far from... I don't know the steps to get there. You know what I mean? And so, for me, it's more like, "Well, here's where we're at." In fact, that was my... We had a chance, last month, to go spend a day with Tony Robbins, and we each had a chance to ask him one question. So that was literally my question, just like... Matt: What was your question? Russell: My question... It'll be a blog soon. Not yet though. No, but it was basically like, "We've gotten to this point, and I know to get to the next goal, the things we've been doing are great and they got us to this point, but I have to think differently to here. I don't know how to think differently. How do you think... It's not another book I'm... Is it a book? How do I think differently?" And what Tony said, that was... it's a very... He said a lot of things, but one of the big things was like, "Proximity is power," like, "You have to be in proximity with people who have already accomplished the thing that you're trying to do." And it was interesting because I look at the path of how I grew ClickFunnels, I did that 100%. I was like, "All right, who are the..." and we found the people, got proximity, and then grew it to this point. So eventually, we kind of coded out of the people who I was aware of. So I asked Tony, I'm like, "Well, where would you go to?" And he's like, "Well, if it was me," he's like, "Who's built the billion dollar company?" He's like, "Marc Benioff." And he started naming all these different billionaires. And this and that, all these things. And I was just like, "I never even assumed those people could... I could be..." it seems so far away. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's..." Having a proximity to those people, and start thinking differently, because I don't know the journey but they've done it. Because someone in our world, and like, "How do [inaudible 00:16:13]?" I'm like, "This is literally a 13 minute project. There you go. [inaudible 00:16:16]." It's like I've done it so many times, it's not hard, right? But for them, it's like this is the rocket science to figure it out. And then the same way with these guys who have built billion dollar companies. So now it's trying to proximity to those people, and trying to get around them, and trying to figure out the journey. So the first thing we did, literally, I got out with Tony, Tony gave the answer to the question, and I knew the first guy I needed to get into proximity with. So I texted Dave, Dave called him up, we brought him on retainer. And now, we've got him an hour a week, to get on the phone with him and just ask him all of our questions. And have him introduce us all the different players at that next level. So a lot of it's that. Dave, who's the CEO, was very focused on all the... He's very much like, "Okay, first, to get to this goal, we have to have everyone here, here, here. These are the percentages, the numbers, all the..." Those things stress me out, I hate spreadsheets. He's always got spreadsheets. But he comes back with all the spreadsheets, I was like, "All I need to know from you is... Because I'm going to be building a funnel. What's the goal? What do you need from me to be able to do that?" He's like, "We need more ClickFunnels trials." Like, "Done. I can... Okay. That's where I'm going to focus my energy." And then, it's like, now I can creative on that piece, because I know this is the metric that I can do, with my skillset, to drive it. And everybody's got a metric, right? The traffic team, everybody's got a metric. But for me personally, it's like the only thing I actually affect in a short term, micro, and then I can focus all the creativity and effort on that, while trying to figure out how to shift my mind set to be bigger, to... Caleb: If Marc Benioff offered you $1 billion for ClickFunnels, what would you say? Speaker 4: Good question. Russell: I'd ask him for five. Matt: Good response! Rob: Can I ask you a question, outside of business? Matt: You asking a question? Oh. Rob: Yeah. Matt: Oh, go ahead. Rob: So I remember you were talking about your wife earlier, with how you wanted to get her the couch. Me and my fiance actually met at ClickFunnels, at your event. Matt: Yeah. Rob: So- Matt: ClickFunnels wedding. Russell: No way. Rob: So what I'm curious about is- Russell: Am I going to be the best man at the wedding? Caleb: I told you, you've got to come, I'm like, "You've got to invite Russell." Rob: So what I wanted to ask you is, obviously you run a nine figure company, and there's a lot that goes into that, how do you balance with, let's say, number one, your wife and then your kids as well? And then, what is your secret to a really successful marriage, that's worked for you? Matt: Dude, what- Rob: I think that's something that many entrepreneurs have good marriages that don't really get asked about. So I was just curious about that. Matt: Yeah. Russell: So I hear three questions in there, right? So balance, happy wife... What was... There was a third one? Caleb: Kids. Rob: Yeah, just balancing it, running a company. I mean, you do all these things, you also have a wife, you have kids. Russell: Yeah. So I would say a couple things. So number one is balance is this thing that we all, for some reason, in our mind, we all seek after. But everything great in my life has come from times of radical imbalance. When I wanted to become a wrestler, I wasn't a great wrestler because I was balanced, it was because I became radically imbalanced in that thing. Matt: Dang. Russell: It became the most important thing in my life, and everything else suffered. But I had to do it to be considered successful. When I met my wife, we didn't create a great relationship because we were balanced, I became radically imbalanced. And all my time and effort and focus was on her. And that's why it became great. ClickFunnels, same way. We built ClickFunnels, I was not balanced. We had to become radically imbalanced for a season, to focus actually to get... So that's the thing to understand. In anything great in life, you can't do it in a point of balance. It's radical imbalance that causes greatness. Matt: And that's golf. Russell: And so, you got to be okay with that. But it can't be for forever. It's got to be something that goes, and it comes and goes. Because people who get radically imbalanced for a long time, they can lose their family, they can lose their kids. Rob: Was there a point where you had to tell your wife, "Hey, this is what I really want to do."? Russell: A lot. She had to- Rob: And she had to just- Russell: ...be on board with- Rob: ...get on board. Russell: She had to get on board, yeah. And if she wasn't, I had to say, "Okay, what's more important?" If it was her, then I had to say no to that. And there's been many opportunities in my life I've had to say no to. Rob: What's that dynamic like, being that guys are together, just as far as working out just normal little things? Russell: So I- Rob: Just decisions, those kind of things. Russell: Yeah, well, marriage, you're going to find out, it's hard. Just so fully aware. No one told me that, going into it. I was like- Matt: Yeah. Russell: I was like, "This is going to be amazing. This is going to be the greatest thing in the world." And it is, it's awesome. But man, it is way harder than I thought. Rob: Just to be a person. Russell: Yeah, someone's... I, actually, I would highly recommend Stacey and Paul Martino have a course that my wife and I have gone through the last year, and it's amazing. There's a principle they teach about demand-relationship. If you just go through their... They have a 14 day quick start, it's like $100. But if you just learn the principles of demand-relationship, what they teach. The biggest game changer in a relationship I ever... Of all the things I've studied... Rob: Why? Russell: It is amazing. Rob: What was your take-away? Russell: The principle of demand-relationship is that, throughout history and society, the way that most of us get things done is that... So in a relationship, there's a power player, and there's someone less, right? And if I want my wife to do something, I'm going to demand, like, "I need you to do these things." Right? And that works, until the other person has the ability to leave. So prior to divorce being a thing, men, throughout history, have had a dominant relationship over women. They used to manage and get what they want, and women couldn't leave. And so, it was a horrible thing, right? But they couldn't leave. As soon as divorce happened, boom, it started happening. Right? When parents come over to their kids and give demand-relationship, as soon as the kids are able to leave, it breaks. And then, breaks his relationships. And so, that's the problem, is that for the last 5000 years, that's been our DNA, that men force women to do these different things. And that's what the demand-relationship is. Their whole training, their whole course, everything they teach is the opposite of demand-relationship. How do you create a relationship, where transformation happens through inspiration, not through demanding, and chasing. And it's tough because, for all of us, especially men, it's been so ingrained in our DNA that if we want something, we... That's how we do business, how we do things. But in a relation, especially an intimate relationship, it's the worst thing that could possibly happen. And that's what we all do. So it'd be worth... I'm hoping she writes a book some day, because it's... In my new book, I have a whole chapter, actually, teaching her framework on in demand-relationship. What's that? Rob: Were you high school sweethearts? Russell: College, we met in college. Rob: So she was with you before you started... Russell: Yeah. Rob: ...and had the huge success- Russell: Yeah. Rob: ...basically. Russell: Yeah. Rob: What was that transition like, from you guys, I guess, being... struggling, and you guys stay together- Matt: Good questions, Rob. Rob: ...to now- Russell: His mindset's on this. Rob: Yeah. Russell: Going into it. Rob: What is that like? I'm just curious, because I mean people don't really talk about this, I guess, a lot. Caleb: Relationship genius. Russell: Yeah. And it's different, because some relationships, both the people are in the business, some aren't. My wife's not involved in the business at all. She... Rob: Oh, okay. Russell: ...doesn't understand it, and she doesn't want to be part of it. And that's okay. It's like sometimes that's been the biggest blessing for me, sometimes it's been hard. Caleb: Yeah. Russell: Right? Sometimes I see the power couples, who are both in the business, and it's really, really cool. But I ask them, and they're like, "Sometimes it's a great blessing, sometimes it's really hard." So there's pro's and con's both ways. But I think the biggest part is just, this has been good for our relationship, and at first we didn't always have this, but it was like... Just figuring out how to get... You both have to have that same end goal, otherwise you're fighting against each other, right? And so, when we were building ClickFunnels and stuff, it was hard at first, because she didn't really... She's like, "What are you guys doing? You spend all this time and..." didn't understand it. And it was tough because I was trying to explain it. And luckily, for me, is that Todd was part of this too, and his wife was kind of struggling. So they had each other to kind of talk through it. But it wasn't until the very first Funnel Hacking Live, where... Because my wife had never been to one of my events before, anything we'd really... She knew what kind of we did, but not really. And she came to Funnel Hacking Live, the very first one. And she didn't come down at first, because she didn't realize what was happening. And she was doing some stuff, and then, she came down with one of her friends and walked in the back of the room, and saw all the stuff. And she started just crying. She was like, "Oh, this is what you're... I had no idea this is what was happening, and what was..." And then, it became real for her. And that was such a huge blessing for me, because now, the next time, it was like, "We have to work hard for this." Or, "We're planning for..." whatever, she was able to see this is the fruits, and like, "Oh, that's why you're doing it." Now, if you notice, my wife's, every Funnel Hacking Live, front row. She doesn't understand a word we're saying, but she's there, she's paying attention, because she's like, "Look at all the people, and their lives are changing, and impacting." And now, it's different, where when I got to do work, work late nights, or whatever, she sees the vision, and she's on board with it. So it makes so much easier. The other secret I learned is if I tell her, if it's like 05:00 at night, I'm like, "Crap, I got to stay late tonight." And I call her at 05:00 at night, nothing good can come from that. It's better if you just go home, right? If I know Wednesday night, I'm going to be working late, I tell her Monday. Like, "Hey, Wednesday night, there's a good chance I'm going to be late." And then, if I tell her that, she's totally cool with it, right? But you don't tell them the day of. It'll destroy your marriage more than anything. Matt: That's good wisdom. Russell: The other secret, this secret don't put on camera, I don't want my wife to... Matt: Is that right? Russell: Yeah, if I have any inclination that people are coming to town, or something's happening, I always like, "Just so you know, next week, Matt and Caleb are coming to town. There's a good shot we might go to dinner at night, just so you're fully aware." And she's like, "Cool." And then, it's fine. The other secret, this is the real one. So don't share this outside this room. Speaker 4: This is the off camera one. Russell: Yeah. So especially after... For my wife and I... So we started having kids, the same time I started this business, right? And so, I'm traveling, I'm going to events. And she's at home with the kids. And so, we never traveled before, so I'm going on these vacations, I'm meeting these cool people, I'm in hotel rooms. So every night, I'm getting back, and I'm like, "Oh my gosh." And I'm like, "Okay, I met so and so, and then..." all these things I'm so excited, so pumped about these things. And I'm telling her about stuff, and she's at home with twin babies, miserable, tired, horrible, feet hurt, body hurt. And I'm out having the time of my life. Matt: Yeah. Russell: And I'm thinking she's going to be pumped for me, right? Matt: Right. Russell: No. And for probably a year or so, I was just like... And then, one day, I remember I'm at some event, and I get cornered by people. And then, introverted Russell's like... anxiety, and it was horrible. And somebody cornered me in the bathroom, and asking me questions while I'm peeing. And it wasn't even... At least, sometimes, most of the time, they fake pee next to you, so at least it's not awkward. He was sitting next to me, watching me pee. I'm like, "Can you at least fake pee?" And so, anyway... It was so bad. And I got home that night, and I call her on the phone, and I was just like, "It was horrible." I went off about how horrible it was, and I was miserable. And she's like, "Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry." But then, she was cool. It was awesome. And I was like, "I didn't get in trouble." And so, the next time I went out, I got home that night, call her, I was like, "Oh, it was horrible. My feet hurt, my back hurts." Anyway, and I've told so many people this, entrepreneurs and friends, who do that, and they shift... Because they don't want to hear you're having this... Anyway, is this truly good or not? I don't know. It saved my marriage. Matt: Is it true? Russell: Literally saved my marriage, and it saved so many of my friends, who… so many of friends, who had the same thing. They want to hear the stories, but not in the moment. When you come back home later, you tell the stories, they love it. But in the moment, when they're miserable, and you're having fun, it is not... First time with Tony Robbins, when I walked on fire, I call her that night, I'm like, "I just walked on fire. Waaa!" And I hear the kids screaming in the background, and she was angry. And I was like, "Huh." And I'm like, "Cool, I'm sending you to walk on fire next month." I sent her to walk on fire, and then she was on fire. But it was like... Caleb: She's like, "No." Russell: Later, she wants to hear, but not in the moment, because it's just like... Anyway, so- Rob: Yeah. Russell: ...that was- Rob: Makes sense. Russell: ...life changing for... Anyway, so... And then, the other thing is just you have to understand what your values are. I learned this from Tom Bilyeu at a level that was fascinating, recently. But- Caleb: Who was that? Russell: Tom Bilyeu, he runs Impact Theory. Caleb: Oh, okay. Rob: Impact Theory. Caleb: Gotcha. Russell: But he writes out his values, but he prioritizes them. So his number one value is his wife, number two... And he has the values written out. And so, when a conflict comes in place, or he gets asked to speak at a huge event, speak for the Queen of England, or whatever, but it's the same weekend as his wife wants something. He's like, "My wife trumps the value... 100%, she trumps it. So the answer's no, and it's not hard for me to say no." Caleb: Wow. Russell: And so, it's figuring it out for yourself. What are your values? Personally, with your family, the wife, everything like that. And you define them, and then it's like there's no question. That's what hard, is when you value something here, and your spouse values something differently, and the conflict of that is what causes the fights, right? But if you get on the same page, like, "Look, this is number one, two..." You have these things, then it makes it easier to navigate those things, because it's like, "No, I understand this is one of the values we have together, as a couple, you should go do that thing." Or whatever the thing might be. So anyway... Caleb: That's awesome. Russell: But marriage is one of the hardest things, but one of the most rewarding things, at the same time. So it's worth it, but it's a ride. Go through demand-relationship, man. That's- Rob: That's a great point. Russell: ...so good. Speaker 4: I got a question. Rob: Yeah, go ahead. Speaker 4: So two big things that I heard from you, amongst your story, you were talking this positivity. When you were doing great at something, or you learned something, you're so excited about it, you're so positive, but then there's this other part of you that's very vulnerable. Russell: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Speaker 4: And so, you experience anxiety, or you have challenging days, or you're discouraged. How do you find the balance between those, of being vulnerable and being honest with how you're feeling, versus, "Hey, this is a challenge. I'm an entrepreneur, I can overcome this."? Matt: Right. Speaker 4: What's the balance? Russell: Yeah. That's good. One of the... Everyone who's met Tony has a story about how Tony's changed their life. But one of the biggest things that I... There's three or four things that I got from Tony, the very first time I went to his event and I heard him speak, that had a huge impact on me. One of the biggest ones was state control, understanding that. Have you ever heard him talk about the triad and things like that? Speaker 4: Yeah. Russell: I'd never heard that before, and I remember watching him do these things on people in the audience. And it was fascinating. He took a lady, who was... He picked somebody in the audience who was suicidal, and he's like... It was the weirdest thing. And he talked about the triad, right? There's three things that change your state, right? There's your language, there's your focus, and there's your physiology, right? So he takes someone, he's like, "I need someone who's suicidal." He takes this beautiful girl. I remember, we were up in Toronto, so then he takes this girl, and he's like, "I need you to get depressed. Not a little bit depressed, clinically suicidal." She's like, "What?" He's like, "Just get there in your mind. Whatever it takes, get dark." And you see her state change, right? And he keeps pushing her, and keep pushing her, and he gets her to this point. And anyway, it's crazy I'm watching this. And I'm kind of freaking out, because I'm watching him do this to this girl, getting her to a point... And soon, she's bawling her eyes out and everything. And he's like, "You got to get deeper. Get darker. More miserable." All this stuff. And you see him change this girl's state. And all of a sudden it stopped. And finally, it seemed like forever, finally he stops and he's like, "Everyone look at her. Watch her. Look at this." He's like, "What do you notice? What's her physiology?" You see her body, you see tears, and all this stuff. And you see her just broken. And then, he's like, "What do you say?" And he goes through the whole triad with her. And he shows that. And he's like, "Now I'm going to show you how quickly you can shift this." To the point where it's like... Anyway, it was crazy. And then, he shifts it, and he starts taking her back through, shifting the physiology, shifting her shoulders, shifting everything, shifting her meanings, shifting focus, shifting what she's saying. And he gets this girl, within three or four minutes, to literal ecstasy, it was crazy watching this. And you see her, where she's laughing... the opposite side of it. And I'd never seen somebody like that, the flip of emotions, how easy it was, by just shifting these three things in her. And it had such a profound impact on me. Caleb: Is there video of that? Russell: Not maybe the one I saw, but he does it at every UPW, he does it... I'm sure there's YouTube videos of it, as well. But if you type the triad, I think he calls it the triad or state control, things like that, you see it happen. But I saw that, and I was just like, "Oh my gosh, I never realized that we had control over that. I thought my feelings were my feelings." Like, "Here's your feeling." Like, "Okay, crap, this is the feeling I have today." And after experiencing that, I was like, "I could actually change this." I didn't know that. And it's interesting because I think sometimes when we're depressed, or we're sad, or we have these things, I think some of us like it. I've had times before, I don't want to be happy. I'm enjoying feeling miserable. And sometimes, I sit in there because I enjoy, because we do, it's weird. It's messed up. But I felt that. I'm like, "I could change this but I don't want to." But other times, I'm like, "I have to change it." Now that I've learned that. It's crazy you can shift your state, and you can do that and show up the way you need to be. And one practical example of how I use it a lot is, when I get home at the end of the night... And this kind of comes back to your question, I think, earlier, too. How do you do all the things? And I told you this yesterday. One of the things that I got the biggest, from being around Tony Robbins, the most impressive thing about him is when... Tony's got... As busy as any of us are, take that times 10, and that's Tony, right? He's the most busy person ever. But if you have a chance, a brief moment with Tony, where he's going to say a million things, and you have a second with him, he is the most present person I've ever met. The world dissolves around it, and it's just him and you, and there's nothing else. You can tell. And he's just zoned in on you, and it's this magical experience. And as soon as it's done, he's just gone, he's on the next thing. But that moment, he's hyper-present. And so, for me, when I'm doing things, it's like... Like, when I get home at night, at the end of the day, park my car, I walk in, and there's the door before I come into the house. And sometimes, I'm anxious, I'm thinking about work, and thinking about stuff, I'm stressed out, the FBI sent me a letter today, Taylor Swift suing me, whatever the thing is. And I'm like, "Ah." And then, I'm like, "I'm going to walk through that door, and I can't do anything about it now. My kids are there, my wife's there." And it's just like, "Okay, I got to change my state." And right there, before I walk through the door, I change my state. Get in the spot, and then like, "Okay, here we go." And I walk through the door, and it's like then I'm dad. And it's different, right? And so, I think it's learning those things. Because it's not... Your feelings are weird, they're going to show up in one way or the other, but the fact that you can control them, which I didn't understand or know how. But as soon as I realized that, it's just like, "I don't have to be sad, or miserable, or anxious, or whatever. I can actually change those things in a moment, if I understand how." And that was one of the greatest gifts Tony gave me, was just understanding how to do that, and seeing it in practical application with somebody. And now, it's like I can do it myself, any time I need to, if I need to. Matt: How do you act around Tony Robbins? Especially from the beginning to now, because you guys are close now. He probably looks at you like I look at a lot of these guys, that are Caleb's friends. I look at them like nephews, these are like... I'd do anything for them. And I know that... I can see that's how Tony starting to look at you. But take us from the very first time, because he didn't he have you come to an event, ask you a bunch of questions, take notes, and then just leave you hanging, or something like that. Tell the story, real quick. Russell: Oh, man. Tony's so intense. I still get scared to... It's still like, "Ah." Anyway, every time I see him, it's just like... I don't know, it's weird. His presence is- Matt: He still makes you nervous. Russell: Oh, yeah, for sure. But the very first time... So yeah, it was... I don't know, it was probably 04:00 in the morning. I don't even know. The shorter version of the long story is they asked me to come meet him in Toronto, at UPW, same event as this whole experience happened. So I went up there, and supposed to meet him one day, and it shifts to the next day. And if you ever work with Tony, just know if he tells you he's meeting you at 10:00, it could be like four days later you actually meet. You're on Tony time. Yeah, it's- Matt: That's just how it is. Russell: It's crazy, yeah. Just waiting. But it's always worth it, so you just wait and be grateful when it happens. But anyway, so we finally get to the point where we meet, and I have to drive 45 minutes. This is pre-Uber, so I'm in a taxi to some weird hotel. And we get there, and then me and his assistant stand outside for another hour, waiting in the lobby. He kept looking at his phone, nervously, like, "Ah." He's like, "Okay, Mr. Robbins' ready to meet you. Let's go." So we run up the stairs, we go to this thing, we walk in this room, and there's- Matt: And this is the first time you ever- Russell: ...body guards everywhere. First time I ever met him, yeah. Yeah, he's like a giant, comes and gives me a huge hug. And we sit down, and he's like, "You hungry?" I'm like, "Yeah." And he was vegetarian at the time, so he's like, "Get Russell some food." And brought me out this amazing plate of... I don't even know what it was. But it was... I was like, "If I could eat like this is every night, I'd be vegetarian." Because it was amazing. It was- Caleb: It was? Russell: ...insane. And then, got his tape recorder out, he's like, "You okay if we record this?" I'm like, "Yeah." So he clicks record, picks out a big journal, he's like, "You're Mormon, right?" I'm like, "Yeah." He's like, "I love the Mormon people. When I was eight years old, I went to a Mormon church and they told me to keep a journal. I've kept a journal ever since. Do you mind if I take notes while we talk?" Matt: Wow. Russell: I'm like, "Eh, okay." So he's recording, taking notes, and then he drilled me for an hour. Just like do, do, do. Just like- Speaker 4: And how long ago was this? Russell: This is 13, 14 years ago. Speaker 4: Okay. Russell: Anyway, it was intense. And I can't remember what I was saying, I was so scared, I'm second-guessing everything I've said. And then, he's asking me numbers and stats, because we were trying to do this deal with him. And it was so scary. Matt: So he was just drilling you with questions, and just trying to- Russell: Oh, like crazy, yeah. I'm trying to just... Yeah, dude. Anyway, it was crazy. And then, he had to go back to UPW to speak again, so he's like, "You want to drive with me?" So I'm like, "Yeah." So go down, and jump in his Escalade together, we're in the back seat, and we're driving. And it's just crazy. And I remember he asked me a question about this one... I won't say the person's name because the story isn't positive for the person. But he asked, he's like, "What do you think about so and so?" I'm like, "Oh, that person's really cool and really talented." He's like, "He's a very significant..." and he just talked about six human needs, earlier that day, so I was very aware of here's what the needs are, right? And he's like, "Yeah, I don't think I'd ever work with him, because he's very significance driven." And I was like, "Oh, that make sense." And all of a sudden, I was like, "Ah, Tony is reading my soul, right now." I was like, "What drives me? I don't even know what drives me. Does he know what drives me?" Like, "Oh my gosh, am I significance driven?" I'm freaking out, like, "Ah." And all I remember is panicking, thinking, "He knows more about me than I know about me, at this point." And all these things, I'm freaking out, we're driving in his Escalade. And we get to the thing, and he's like, "I got to go inside. Thank you so much, brother. I love you." Jumps out the car, shuts the door. I'm sitting in the Escalade, like, "What just happened?" Matt: It was that fast. Russell: It was insane, yeah. Matt: It was just like- Russell: And then, the driver's like, "Do you want to get out here? Do you want me to drive you somewhere?" Like, "I don't even know where we are." We're in Toronto somewhere, that's all I know. And so, it was just the craziest experience. And then, I don't hear from him for four or five months, nothing. And I'm like- Matt: What were you thinking? Did you think- Russell: I was like, "He must've hated me. Maybe I failed the test. Am I significance driven?" I'm freaking out about all the things. And then, one day, I get this random... It was actually my wife and I, we were celebrating our anniversary, so we were at... It was a StomperNet event, but we took her, it was this cool thing. And she'd just gone to UPW. I sent her like three months later. So she walked on fire, and she was like... And Tony talks about Fiji there, so she was like, "Someday we should go to Fiji." And then, we get this call from Tony, and it was like, "Hey..." Or it was Tony's assistant. Like, "Hey, Tony wants to know if you want to speak at Business Mastery in Fiji, in two weeks." I was like, "Tony Robbins..." I started saying it out loud so Collette could hear me. "Tony Robbins wants me to speak in Fiji, in two weeks?" And Collette, my cute little wife, starts jumping on the bed, like, "Say yes! Say yes!" Caleb: Aw! Russell: And I was like, "Yes, yes, yes. Of course, we will." And then, we're like, we've got three kids that are all toddlers at this time, and like, "Can we bring kids?" They're like, "There's no kids allowed on the resort." I'm like, "We've got three little kids." He's like, "Ah, all right. We'll figure it out." So I hang up, and we're like, "We don't have passports for the kids, we don't have anything." So anyway, it was chaos, we're freaking out. We ended up getting them there, they literally built a fence around our... The Bula house, where's Dan at? The Bula house we were in. They built a whole fence around, so our kids wouldn't die because- Caleb: Did they really? Russell: ...there's cliffs off the back. Yeah, it was crazy. And then, I'm speaking to this room, and there's less than 100 people. I'm speaking, and Tony's sitting in the back of this room, I'm like- Matt: While you're speaking. Russell: ..."I thought he was not going to be here. This is really scary." Yeah. And he's paying attention the whole time. Matt: Does it make you more nervous? Russell: He introduced me, he brought me on stage, which was like... I still have the footage of that, it's really cool. He brought me on stage, which was crazy. And then, I remember, because in the thing we're talking about lead generation, I was talking about squeeze pages. And afterwards, he got on. He comes up afterwards, he's like, "Yeah, I heard squeeze pages don't work anymore. Is that true, Russell?" He's like, "People say they're kind of dead, they don't work anymore." And this is, again, 12 years ago. And I was like, "Who told you that? They totally still work." Which is funny, because we still use them today. But he was just like, "Somebody had told me they don't work anymore." And I was like, "They..." anyway, "They work, I promise." But anyway, and then I don't hear from him for five years, and then something else happens. It's just weird, these long extended periods of time. But then, every time, every moment, I tried... Five years later, it was a call, it was like, "Hey, Tony's doing this thing. He wants your opinion on it." So I spent like two or three hours with his team, consulting, giving feedback, as much ideas as I could. And like, "Cool, thanks." And then, nothing for two years, and then something else, and then... Little things keep happening, and happening, and can do more and more together. And then- Matt: What did you learn from that? You think that's just- Russell: A couple things I've learned. Number one, I'm sure you guys get this a lot, people who want to work with you, they show up and the first thing they show up with is, "All right, I got an idea how we can make a bunch of money together." Right? They always come, and want to figure out how they can take from you. And I was so scared, and grateful, I didn't ever ask Tony for anything. The first time I asked Tony for anything ever was 12 into our relationship, after Expert Secrets book was done. I had just paid him $250,000 to speak on our stage, and just finished the interview promoting his book. And I was like, "Hey, I wrote a new book. Do you want one?" Matt: Wow. Russell: And he's like, "Oh." And he took it. I'm like, "Cool." And then, a week later, I'm like, "Ah, will you interview me on Facebook with this?" He's like, "Sure." And then, he did, and that video got three and a half million views on it. It was crazy, coolest thing ever. But it was 12 years before I asked him for anything. And I had- Matt: Wow. Russell: ...served him at as many different points as I can. I think the biggest lesson from that is that... And I get it all the time, people come to me and it's like they're trying to ask and take. It's just like... I get it, and it makes sense. But it's just like, "This game's not a short game. If you do it right, it's your life. This is your life mission." Right? Matt: Yeah, that's good. Russell: And so it's just understanding you're planting seeds, and you're serving, and if you do that, eventually good things will happen. And something may never happen with Tony, and that's cool. I do stuff for a lot of people, and nothing ever good ever comes from it. But hopefully something does. Sometimes it's indirect, sometimes it's not, sometimes it's just karma, or whatever you believe in. But if you just always go with the intent to serve, not to like, "What's in it for me?" It just changes everything. And then, if you do that, if you lead with how to serve, stuff comes back to you. But if you lead with trying to get stuff, it just doesn't work. The energy's different in the whole encounter. You know what I mean? Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: So I'm sure you guys have felt that with people, when they first come to you, and it's just like, "Ah." Matt: So is there a point where you... You went to his house. Russell: That was cool. The thing I can say is it was really cool, because most times when I'm with Tony, you're around people. In Fiji, it was fun seeing him, because he's more personal and stuff like that. But it was really special in his home, because it was him and his wife, and it was cool. It was fun just seeing him as him, like as a kid. And even my wife, like, "He seems like a kid here." He was so excited, and showing us his stuff, and all the things. Matt: Ah, well, guys, listen. Russell: Anyway- Matt: A few more questions, because I mean, man, you've been at it for almost two hours, dude. I can go all night, and I know he could. But Brea Morrison, give it up for her for letting us be here. Thank you so much. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Roundtable of World Changers (Part 3 of 4) full 420 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part three of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter... The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part three of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you've been enjoying this series so far. This is The Roundtable of World Changers, a conversation I had with Matt and Caleb Maddix, and a whole bunch of young entrepreneurs, who are literally out there trying to change the world. This is part three of a four part episode, because the conversation went for three or four hours. And so, this episode's also going to be about 40 minutes long, and it's the next set of questions they asked me. And if you've listened to the last two, you know that these guys ask a lot of questions, in a lot of different directions, and angles, and went all over the place. And I think this time is probably 01:00 or 02:00 in the morning. And so, the questions started going from everywhere, from business, to relationships, to families, and a whole bunch more. So I hope you enjoy this next episode. Here's some of the bullet points of things you're going to learn about. We talked about the 10 commandments of marketing. I talked about my very first mentor, and a thing he taught me, not just to make money in the short term, but how to build a business that now has lasted me for almost two decades. I talk about one of my friends and mentors, Daegen Smith and something that he taught me. It was so simple, yet it's been the key to help me get thousands of people a day to join my email list. We talked about leadership, delegation, scheduling. We talk about, as you're building a team, understanding people's unique abilities. Talked about how much time you spend thinking about the future. Talked about proximity with billionaires. We also talked about how to balance your business and married life, so you can be a good husband and a good father, which is something that I stress about all the time. We talked about a principle that I learned from Stacey and Paul Martino, that has been one of the most powerful things I've learned, which is called demand-relationship. I talk about that. We talk about some relationship tricks, for those who are either married or getting married. Some of the newlyweds, and the engaged couples, were asking some questions about that. Hopefully I don't get in trouble for sharing some of my tricks. We talked about knowing what your values are, and your priorities. Talked about being vulnerable, and being honest, versus staying positive through challenges. We talked about some of the biggest principles and things I learned from Tony Robbins, including how to change your state whenever you need to. And we talked about my 12 year relationship with Tony Robbins, and all the things behind that. We talked about... I don't want to spoil any more. You guys, this is a fun interview. And hopefully, you've been enjoying these so far. So with that said, we're going to cut to the theme song. When we come back, we're going to take you guys immediately back into this conversation. This is, again, The Roundtable of World Changers, part three of four. Matt Maddix: Let's say there was a Russell Brunson 10 commandments. You know how God had one. Russell: Thou shall build a list. Matt: Yeah. How high is this in the 10 commandments? Russell: My first mentor, Mark… Matt: And what would be some of the Russell Brunson... Let's come up with some of them. Like, "Thou shalt..." Russell: We need some stone tablets. Matt: "To all the funnel hackers, thou shalt and thou shall not." I want to hear- Russell: That would be a fun presentation, actually. Matt: Yeah, that would be, actually. Caleb Maddix: That would be. Russell: That would be cool. Matt: Dude, you need to do that. Russell: Come back from the mountain, we have 10 things. Matt: Yeah, seriously. Caleb: Wow. That'd be awesome. Matt: No, the five 'thou shalts', and like, "Thou shall..." and then- Russell: "Thou shall..." Matt: ..."Thou shall not, no matter what..." What would some of those be? Russell: That could be a really cool presentation, actually. Well, so I would say, in my first venture was Mark Joyner, and he was the one... So in context, in history, 18 years when I started, Mark Joyner... I don't think it's probably known. He's brilliant. But he built a company, and sold it off. And at the very end of his career as a coach person, I got to meet him and get to know him a little bit. But I remember, at that time, Google AdSense was this thing that came. And so, if any of you guys are old enough, just try and remember the Google AdSense days. It was insane. They were software. You click a button on software, it would pop out of site, pop out another site. And these sites would make anywhere from 100 to $1000 a day. And you just keep clicking this button, it would pop out another site. And so, people were making $1 million a month. They had teams in the Philippines, that these guys just clicking the button to build the software. It was just... But it was all fake. But it was tons of money. Insane amounts of money. I had friends making so much money. And shiny object, very shiny object, the most sexy shiny object of all time. You click a button, you can make $1 million. That was it, that was the pitch. And it was true. Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: For so... Everyone I knew. Can you imagine that? Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: If I go back in time, 18 years ago, I would move to the Philippines, I would hire everybody, and we would just click buttons. And I would've been- Caleb: Wow. Russell: ...a billionaire. It was- Caleb: Wow. Russell: It was insane. That's how Google got people adopting the AdSense program. So people would put ads on every single site, every single everything. And so, I'm getting in this game, I'm seeing this, and I'm morons making insane amounts of money. And I was like, "Ah!" And Mark had just become my mentor, the very first time, and he's like, "That's going to go away. Focus on building a list." I'm like, "But this guy's a moron. He made $1 million last month clicking a button. No strategy, no brains, no nothing." He's like, "I know, but it's going to go away. Focus on building a list." I'm like- Matt: Wow. Russell: But- Matt: Seriously? Russell: "He's clicking a button. Building lists is hard." He's like, "Build a list." I'm like... And I remember fighting him and fighting him, he's just like, "Dude, trust me. I've been on cycle. It's going to go away. Just focus and focus." And I was so upset, but I listened because I do that. One thing I pride myself on, I'm very coachable. Coach tells me something, I do it. I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. Matt: I love it. Russell: They tell me to do it, I do it, right? So I was like, "Ah, but there's free money in piles-" Matt: Even when it's hard- Russell: "All right." Matt: ...you do it. Russell: So I did it. And sure enough, I was doing that, and doing that, within six months, this things collapsed, disappeared, destroyed people's lives. Because you're making $1 million a month clicking buttons, what do you do? Especially as a young kid. Matt: Spending that much money. Russell: You're buying Lambos, and Ferraris, and helicopters, and pilots, and girls, and insane amounts of money. And then it disappears overnight. Devastating, ruined these guys, ruined them, so many people. Matt: There’s no skill behind that at all. Russell: Yeah. And I had a list, and I just coasted through it. Right? And I've looked at the SEOs, every single up and down, up and down, through the years, and I just listened to Mark and just focused on building my list, focused on building it, and- Matt: So you still feel that as strong today, as when you heard it? Russell: 100%. Matt: Even then. Russell: 100%. That’s one of our KPIs. How many people doing lists today? Every single day. Matt: Really? Everyday? Russell: Everyday. Because I did it for a long time- Matt: Even now, you're saying? Russell: 100%, everyday. John Parkes everyday sends me a number. “How many people joined our list yesterday?” That’s all I want to know. Caleb: What's your guys' email open rates? Russell: It fluctuates. 20 ish percent. Caleb: Okay. Russell: Around there. But it was funny because I remember, I had forgotten that lesson after a while. And if you guys know Daegen Smith, Daegen, he's getting back in the game now. He's brilliant. But I remember I had a list, and I was my money off of it. I wasn't focusing on it. And I remember he asked me a question, he said, "How many..." It wasn't, "How many people are on your list?" Because that's what most people ask, "How big's your list?" But he asked me a different question, which input output, right? Matt: Yeah. Russell: The question was, "How many people joined your list today?" And I was like, "I don't know." He's like, "Go look right now." I'm like, "Okay." So I log in, and look at the thing, it was like 12. And I was like, "12?" And I was like, "Is that good or bad? I don't know." And he's like, "Let me show you mine." And he showed me his, and it was like 1400. And I was like, "You had 1400 people join today?" He's like, "Yeah." "Wait, how'd you do that?" He's like, "I just look at it everyday. And when I look at it everyday, somehow it grows." And I was like- Matt: Wow. Russell: "Okay." So then, everyday, after I log in and look at my thing, it was like 12, I'm like, "Ah." In my head, I'm like, "Fricken Daegen had 1400. I only 12." Caleb: Yeah. Matt: Wow. Russell: And also, I was like, "What do I do to get people to join the list?" Matt: Yeah, start optimizing. Russell: And then, your mind starts thinking differently, and all of a sudden you start focusing on it. And it's crazy. I can't tell you how many entrepreneurs, that have been in my world, who have gone up and then come down. And what happens, mostly, is they do something, they build a big list, they stop adding fuel to the fire, they have this list, they sell things to the list, the list atrophies, and eventually starts shrinking and dying. And then, they don't know how to build lists, the business crashes and dies. Matt: I hope you guys are really listening. Really. I mean, he's- Caleb: That's powerful. Matt: ...saving your life right now. Russell: The question, the goal, every single day, is that, because it's a fuel to your fire. And what happens was you stop putting fuel on the fire, and it doesn't die immediately. So you're like, "Oh, I've turned off Ads, so I'm good. But I'm just going to focus on emails, let's focus that." But just every email you send out, your list atrophies, shrinks, dies. And then, eventually, it'll just die. And so, yeah, if you're not consistently, constantly feeding the list, every single day- Matt: And once you have the list, what's the biggest mistake people make with their list? Russell: They don't email it. Matt: Yeah. Russell: They're scared to... You think it's too much emails. It's not, it's the opposite. It's that they don't email. Caleb: Okay. Russell: Minimum of three times a week. Closer to everyday. Matt: Wow. Russell: If you talk to Daegen, it's twice a day, everyday. Matt: Really? Caleb: What other KPIs do you have sent to you every single day? Russell: I want to know how much we made yesterday, striped. Because first off, it's cool to know. Caleb: Yeah. Russell: But second off, also it's like, I want that number to be bigger everyday. So it's like, actual money in the thing, how many people joined the list today, and how many books are sold, how many ClickFunnels members. Those are the ones for me. Our teams have other KPIs they focus on. But those are the ones I care about. Matt: So out of 30 days, when you hear the numbers, how often are you pissed and how often are you like, "Yeah."? Russell: Nowadays, it's always pretty good. Matt: Nowadays, it's like, "Woo." Russell: Because it might go up or down a little bit, but the numbers are big enough, that it's just like, "That's so crazy." I remember... Anyway. I remember just the growth of ClickFunnels, because you know Stripe dings every day with your numbers. I remember when we started going, it got to the point where it's like $10,000 a day, I was like, "$10,000 a day is insane. That's just so cool." And then, it got to a point where it's like $20,000 a day, and then 30, and then $50,000 a day, and then $100,000 a day, and then 150, then 200, 250, 300. I'm just like, "This is insane to me, that this is a daily thing that come..." it was just... Anyway, that's when it got just weird. And it makes me mad because Todd made a commitment to me, that as soon as we passed $500,000 a month in sales, he'd move to Boise. Matt: And he didn't yet? Russell: No. So... Matt: You were out of there already. Russell: And then, I was like, "Well, we have $500,000 a day." And then, he still hasn't come. So I don't know. Some day. Do you think Todd will ever move to Boise? Speaker 4: Plus I'm curious if I could pop in to ask a question. Russell: Yeah, feel free. Speaker 4: I've always wanted to ask someone of your stature, that's done as much as you have, impacted as much people as you have, and really built the business that you have. So I'm curious on your take on leadership, building a team, delegating, and your schedule and how you go about scheduling your day, and prioritizing what's important for you, as a business owner, and what you delegate to your employees and their responsibilities as well. So leadership, delegating, and scheduling. Russell: Good question. It's interesting because I would say I'm not the best leader on my team, by any stretch. And so, it was interesting because I spent the first four or five years with ClickFunnels as the CEO, trying to do my best with it. But it wasn't my unique ability, is leadership. I feel like I'm good at leading a community, but I struggle a lot more with employees and teams, internally. And so, about a year ago or so, I handed the reins to Dave Woodward, to be the CEO of ClickFunnels. And he's been amazing. Man, what he's done inside the company has been awesome. And I think a big part of it is understanding, at least for me personally, I was trying to be a leader, and trying to develop that, but I wasn't the best at it. And I think sometimes we think it's always got to be us. Like, "It's my company, I got to be the CEO. I got to be the leader. I got to do these things." It's understanding that a lot of times there's people who are really good. Who's the best you could find to be that? Or any part of our business. You know what I mean? It's a big part of it. The second thing is, if you've studied Dan Sullivan at all, one of his biggest things is unique ability. That's the thing. What's your unique ability? What's everybody's unique ability? And I think when you start a company, it's tough because it's like everyone's in charge of everything, right? I'm the CEO, but I'm also taking out the garbage, I'm also doing... everyone's Speaker 4: Yeah. Russell: ...doing a little bit of everything, which is cool. When you're scrappy in the beginning, that's important, and everyone's doing that. But as you grow, that starts hindering you more and more and more, where we had people who are insanely talented, who if I could just get them doing this thing, 100% of the time... And that's when it got to the point with ClickFunnels, is that my unique abilities are writing, are being in videos, are building funnels, doing the... Those things are my unique abilities. Caleb: Engineering. Russell: Yeah. And I was spending maybe 10% of my time on that, and 90% of the time in meetings, and trying- Matt: Wow. Russell: ...coordinate people, and leadership. And it was stressful and it was hard. Matt: And you were draining. You were probably drained doing that. Russell: Yeah. And I was miserable, that was just... I wasn't good at it. Not feeling good, like, "Ah, I'm not getting through to people. I can't figure this out." But I felt like I had to own, I had to be the guy, I had to do the thing because this is my baby, this is my business. And the last 12 months has been crazy, because I handed it to someone who actually is good at that, that is his unique ability. And I'm watching company structure, and meetings, and KPIs, things that I was never super good at doing, and consistently having it all happening now. And now, I'm in the marketing department again, and I'm building funnels. People are like, "What do you do all day?" I'm literally in ClickFunnels, building funnels. "No, but you have funnel builder..." No, I'm literally in ClickFunnels, building funnels. I didn't start this business because I wanted to be a CEO of a big huge company. I did it because I love building funnels. I'm an artist, when it comes down to it, this is my art. Matt: Wow. Russell: And that's what I get to do now. And it's amazing. So Dan's got Fridays we book out, and we spend videos, he's got a whole bunch of YouTube videos, we film five or six YouTube vlogs last week, on Friday. So we have that times blocked out to do that, right? I'm writing my next book right now, so I've got my mornings blocked out to write books, because that's when my mind's got not a million things so I can do that. And then, after morning comes in, after I do my wrestling practice, I come in. And that's my teams there, and that's when we're building funnels. I got my designer and my copywriter, the people, and I get to facilitate that. And I feel like the... What's the guy in the orchestra, the maestro? Caleb: Conductor? Russell: Yeah, like I'm the conductor, I'm conducting all these talented people. And everyone's bringing... And I'm alive, and it's exciting. And at night, I can't sleep, because I'm excited again. And so, I think that's the biggest thing, is taking the pressure off yourself if you're not the best leader. That's okay. What are you the actual best at? And success, in business, I think, at least for me, I always thought I had to be the best at everything. And it's the opposite, where it's like, "How do you focus on the thing you're best at? And get the rest of the people around you." Speaker 4: Yeah. And it gets- Matt: And it's... You had to have been willing to let go of your ego, man. Or you wouldn't have been able to grow so much. If you try to do it all yourself... Caleb: So I have a question. How much time do you spend actually thinking about the future? Because it seems like, from what you've told us, you're very dialed in and obsessed on the process, and that's how you've gotten to where you are, up to this point, because you're in love with the game. How much of your time do you spend thinking about the future, and what's on the horizon next year, five years, 10 years? Does that cross your mind? Or what does that look like? Russell: It's interesting, I can't remember who was talking to about this... The further out you look, the fuzzier it gets. You know what I mean? And so, I think for me, it's like we have... I know where I want to go, but the in between is really, really fuzzy, right? It's hard to know. And so, it's like I know... For me, the last big boat was $100 million, the next one's a billion. So we know there's the thing. But it's so far from... I don't know the steps to get there. You know what I mean? And so, for me, it's more like, "Well, here's where we're at." In fact, that was my... We had a chance, last month, to go spend a day with Tony Robbins, and we each had a chance to ask him one question. So that was literally my question, just like... Matt: What was your question? Russell: My question... It'll be a blog soon. Not yet though. No, but it was basically like, "We've gotten to this point, and I know to get to the next goal, the things we've been doing are great and they got us to this point, but I have to think differently to here. I don't know how to think differently. How do you think... It's not another book I'm... Is it a book? How do I think differently?" And what Tony said, that was... it's a very... He said a lot of things, but one of the big things was like, "Proximity is power," like, "You have to be in proximity with people who have already accomplished the thing that you're trying to do." And it was interesting because I look at the path of how I grew ClickFunnels, I did that 100%. I was like, "All right, who are the..." and we found the people, got proximity, and then grew it to this point. So eventually, we kind of coded out of the people who I was aware of. So I asked Tony, I'm like, "Well, where would you go to?" And he's like, "Well, if it was me," he's like, "Who's built the billion dollar company?" He's like, "Marc Benioff." And he started naming all these different billionaires. And this and that, all these things. And I was just like, "I never even assumed those people could... I could be..." it seems so far away. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's..." Having a proximity to those people, and start thinking differently, because I don't know the journey but they've done it. Because someone in our world, and like, "How do [inaudible 00:16:13]?" I'm like, "This is literally a 13 minute project. There you go. [inaudible 00:16:16]." It's like I've done it so many times, it's not hard, right? But for them, it's like this is the rocket science to figure it out. And then the same way with these guys who have built billion dollar companies. So now it's trying to proximity to those people, and trying to get around them, and trying to figure out the journey. So the first thing we did, literally, I got out with Tony, Tony gave the answer to the question, and I knew the first guy I needed to get into proximity with. So I texted Dave, Dave called him up, we brought him on retainer. And now, we've got him an hour a week, to get on the phone with him and just ask him all of our questions. And have him introduce us all the different players at that next level. So a lot of it's that. Dave, who's the CEO, was very focused on all the... He's very much like, "Okay, first, to get to this goal, we have to have everyone here, here, here. These are the percentages, the numbers, all the..." Those things stress me out, I hate spreadsheets. He's always got spreadsheets. But he comes back with all the spreadsheets, I was like, "All I need to know from you is... Because I'm going to be building a funnel. What's the goal? What do you need from me to be able to do that?" He's like, "We need more ClickFunnels trials." Like, "Done. I can... Okay. That's where I'm going to focus my energy." And then, it's like, now I can creative on that piece, because I know this is the metric that I can do, with my skillset, to drive it. And everybody's got a metric, right? The traffic team, everybody's got a metric. But for me personally, it's like the only thing I actually affect in a short term, micro, and then I can focus all the creativity and effort on that, while trying to figure out how to shift my mind set to be bigger, to... Caleb: If Marc Benioff offered you $1 billion for ClickFunnels, what would you say? Speaker 4: Good question. Russell: I'd ask him for five. Matt: Good response! Rob: Can I ask you a question, outside of business? Matt: You asking a question? Oh. Rob: Yeah. Matt: Oh, go ahead. Rob: So I remember you were talking about your wife earlier, with how you wanted to get her the couch. Me and my fiance actually met at ClickFunnels, at your event. Matt: Yeah. Rob: So- Matt: ClickFunnels wedding. Russell: No way. Rob: So what I'm curious about is- Russell: Am I going to be the best man at the wedding? Caleb: I told you, you've got to come, I'm like, "You've got to invite Russell." Rob: So what I wanted to ask you is, obviously you run a nine figure company, and there's a lot that goes into that, how do you balance with, let's say, number one, your wife and then your kids as well? And then, what is your secret to a really successful marriage, that's worked for you? Matt: Dude, what- Rob: I think that's something that many entrepreneurs have good marriages that don't really get asked about. So I was just curious about that. Matt: Yeah. Russell: So I hear three questions in there, right? So balance, happy wife... What was... There was a third one? Caleb: Kids. Rob: Yeah, just balancing it, running a company. I mean, you do all these things, you also have a wife, you have kids. Russell: Yeah. So I would say a couple things. So number one is balance is this thing that we all, for some reason, in our mind, we all seek after. But everything great in my life has come from times of radical imbalance. When I wanted to become a wrestler, I wasn't a great wrestler because I was balanced, it was because I became radically imbalanced in that thing. Matt: Dang. Russell: It became the most important thing in my life, and everything else suffered. But I had to do it to be considered successful. When I met my wife, we didn't create a great relationship because we were balanced, I became radically imbalanced. And all my time and effort and focus was on her. And that's why it became great. ClickFunnels, same way. We built ClickFunnels, I was not balanced. We had to become radically imbalanced for a season, to focus actually to get... So that's the thing to understand. In anything great in life, you can't do it in a point of balance. It's radical imbalance that causes greatness. Matt: And that's golf. Russell: And so, you got to be okay with that. But it can't be for forever. It's got to be something that goes, and it comes and goes. Because people who get radically imbalanced for a long time, they can lose their family, they can lose their kids. Rob: Was there a point where you had to tell your wife, "Hey, this is what I really want to do."? Russell: A lot. She had to- Rob: And she had to just- Russell: ...be on board with- Rob: ...get on board. Russell: She had to get on board, yeah. And if she wasn't, I had to say, "Okay, what's more important?" If it was her, then I had to say no to that. And there's been many opportunities in my life I've had to say no to. Rob: What's that dynamic like, being that guys are together, just as far as working out just normal little things? Russell: So I- Rob: Just decisions, those kind of things. Russell: Yeah, well, marriage, you're going to find out, it's hard. Just so fully aware. No one told me that, going into it. I was like- Matt: Yeah. Russell: I was like, "This is going to be amazing. This is going to be the greatest thing in the world." And it is, it's awesome. But man, it is way harder than I thought. Rob: Just to be a person. Russell: Yeah, someone's... I, actually, I would highly recommend Stacey and Paul Martino have a course that my wife and I have gone through the last year, and it's amazing. There's a principle they teach about demand-relationship. If you just go through their... They have a 14 day quick start, it's like $100. But if you just learn the principles of demand-relationship, what they teach. The biggest game changer in a relationship I ever... Of all the things I've studied... Rob: Why? Russell: It is amazing. Rob: What was your take-away? Russell: The principle of demand-relationship is that, throughout history and society, the way that most of us get things done is that... So in a relationship, there's a power player, and there's someone less, right? And if I want my wife to do something, I'm going to demand, like, "I need you to do these things." Right? And that works, until the other person has the ability to leave. So prior to divorce being a thing, men, throughout history, have had a dominant relationship over women. They used to manage and get what they want, and women couldn't leave. And so, it was a horrible thing, right? But they couldn't leave. As soon as divorce happened, boom, it started happening. Right? When parents come over to their kids and give demand-relationship, as soon as the kids are able to leave, it breaks. And then, breaks his relationships. And so, that's the problem, is that for the last 5000 years, that's been our DNA, that men force women to do these different things. And that's what the demand-relationship is. Their whole training, their whole course, everything they teach is the opposite of demand-relationship. How do you create a relationship, where transformation happens through inspiration, not through demanding, and chasing. And it's tough because, for all of us, especially men, it's been so ingrained in our DNA that if we want something, we... That's how we do business, how we do things. But in a relation, especially an intimate relationship, it's the worst thing that could possibly happen. And that's what we all do. So it'd be worth... I'm hoping she writes a book some day, because it's... In my new book, I have a whole chapter, actually, teaching her framework on in demand-relationship. What's that? Rob: Were you high school sweethearts? Russell: College, we met in college. Rob: So she was with you before you started... Russell: Yeah. Rob: ...and had the huge success- Russell: Yeah. Rob: ...basically. Russell: Yeah. Rob: What was that transition like, from you guys, I guess, being... struggling, and you guys stay together- Matt: Good questions, Rob. Rob: ...to now- Russell: His mindset's on this. Rob: Yeah. Russell: Going into it. Rob: What is that like? I'm just curious, because I mean people don't really talk about this, I guess, a lot. Caleb: Relationship genius. Russell: Yeah. And it's different, because some relationships, both the people are in the business, some aren't. My wife's not involved in the business at all. She... Rob: Oh, okay. Russell: ...doesn't understand it, and she doesn't want to be part of it. And that's okay. It's like sometimes that's been the biggest blessing for me, sometimes it's been hard. Caleb: Yeah. Russell: Right? Sometimes I see the power couples, who are both in the business, and it's really, really cool. But I ask them, and they're like, "Sometimes it's a great blessing, sometimes it's really hard." So there's pro's and con's both ways. But I think the biggest part is just, this has been good for our relationship, and at first we didn't always have this, but it was like... Just figuring out how to get... You both have to have that same end goal, otherwise you're fighting against each other, right? And so, when we were building ClickFunnels and stuff, it was hard at first, because she didn't really... She's like, "What are you guys doing? You spend all this time and..." didn't understand it. And it was tough because I was trying to explain it. And luckily, for me, is that Todd was part of this too, and his wife was kind of struggling. So they had each other to kind of talk through it. But it wasn't until the very first Funnel Hacking Live, where... Because my wife had never been to one of my events before, anything we'd really... She knew what kind of we did, but not really. And she came to Funnel Hacking Live, the very first one. And she didn't come down at first, because she didn't realize what was happening. And she was doing some stuff, and then, she came down with one of her friends and walked in the back of the room, and saw all the stuff. And she started just crying. She was like, "Oh, this is what you're... I had no idea this is what was happening, and what was..." And then, it became real for her. And that was such a huge blessing for me, because now, the next time, it was like, "We have to work hard for this." Or, "We're planning for..." whatever, she was able to see this is the fruits, and like, "Oh, that's why you're doing it." Now, if you notice, my wife's, every Funnel Hacking Live, front row. She doesn't understand a word we're saying, but she's there, she's paying attention, because she's like, "Look at all the people, and their lives are changing, and impacting." And now, it's different, where when I got to do work, work late nights, or whatever, she sees the vision, and she's on board with it. So it makes so much easier. The other secret I learned is if I tell her, if it's like 05:00 at night, I'm like, "Crap, I got to stay late tonight." And I call her at 05:00 at night, nothing good can come from that. It's better if you just go home, right? If I know Wednesday night, I'm going to be working late, I tell her Monday. Like, "Hey, Wednesday night, there's a good chance I'm going to be late." And then, if I tell her that, she's totally cool with it, right? But you don't tell them the day of. It'll destroy your marriage more than anything. Matt: That's good wisdom. Russell: The other secret, this secret don't put on camera, I don't want my wife to... Matt: Is that right? Russell: Yeah, if I have any inclination that people are coming to town, or something's happening, I always like, "Just so you know, next week, Matt and Caleb are coming to town. There's a good shot we might go to dinner at night, just so you're fully aware." And she's like, "Cool." And then, it's fine. The other secret, this is the real one. So don't share this outside this room. Speaker 4: This is the off camera one. Russell: Yeah. So especially after... For my wife and I... So we started having kids, the same time I started this business, right? And so, I'm traveling, I'm going to events. And she's at home with the kids. And so, we never traveled before, so I'm going on these vacations, I'm meeting these cool people, I'm in hotel rooms. So every night, I'm getting back, and I'm like, "Oh my gosh." And I'm like, "Okay, I met so and so, and then..." all these things I'm so excited, so pumped about these things. And I'm telling her about stuff, and she's at home with twin babies, miserable, tired, horrible, feet hurt, body hurt. And I'm out having the time of my life. Matt: Yeah. Russell: And I'm thinking she's going to be pumped for me, right? Matt: Right. Russell: No. And for probably a year or so, I was just like... And then, one day, I remember I'm at some event, and I get cornered by people. And then, introverted Russell's like... anxiety, and it was horrible. And somebody cornered me in the bathroom, and asking me questions while I'm peeing. And it wasn't even... At least, sometimes, most of the time, they fake pee next to you, so at least it's not awkward. He was sitting next to me, watching me pee. I'm like, "Can you at least fake pee?" And so, anyway... It was so bad. And I got home that night, and I call her on the phone, and I was just like, "It was horrible." I went off about how horrible it was, and I was miserable. And she's like, "Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry." But then, she was cool. It was awesome. And I was like, "I didn't get in trouble." And so, the next time I went out, I got home that night, call her, I was like, "Oh, it was horrible. My feet hurt, my back hurts." Anyway, and I've told so many people this, entrepreneurs and friends, who do that, and they shift... Because they don't want to hear you're having this... Anyway, is this truly good or not? I don't know. It saved my marriage. Matt: Is it true? Russell: Literally saved my marriage, and it saved so many of my friends, who… so many of friends, who had the same thing. They want to hear the stories, but not in the moment. When you come back home later, you tell the stories, they love it. But in the moment, when they're miserable, and you're having fun, it is not... First time with Tony Robbins, when I walked on fire, I call her that night, I'm like, "I just walked on fire. Waaa!" And I hear the kids screaming in the background, and she was angry. And I was like, "Huh." And I'm like, "Cool, I'm sending you to walk on fire next month." I sent her to walk on fire, and then she was on fire. But it was like... Caleb: She's like, "No." Russell: Later, she wants to hear, but not in the moment, because it's just like... Anyway, so- Rob: Yeah. Russell: ...that was- Rob: Makes sense. Russell: ...life changing for... Anyway, so... And then, the other thing is just you have to understand what your values are. I learned this from Tom Bilyeu at a level that was fascinating, recently. But- Caleb: Who was that? Russell: Tom Bilyeu, he runs Impact Theory. Caleb: Oh, okay. Rob: Impact Theory. Caleb: Gotcha. Russell: But he writes out his values, but he prioritizes them. So his number one value is his wife, number two... And he has the values written out. And so, when a conflict comes in place, or he gets asked to speak at a huge event, speak for the Queen of England, or whatever, but it's the same weekend as his wife wants something. He's like, "My wife trumps the value... 100%, she trumps it. So the answer's no, and it's not hard for me to say no." Caleb: Wow. Russell: And so, it's figuring it out for yourself. What are your values? Personally, with your family, the wife, everything like that. And you define them, and then it's like there's no question. That's what hard, is when you value something here, and your spouse values something differently, and the conflict of that is what causes the fights, right? But if you get on the same page, like, "Look, this is number one, two..." You have these things, then it makes it easier to navigate those things, because it's like, "No, I understand this is one of the values we have together, as a couple, you should go do that thing." Or whatever the thing might be. So anyway... Caleb: That's awesome. Russell: But marriage is one of the hardest things, but one of the most rewarding things, at the same time. So it's worth it, but it's a ride. Go through demand-relationship, man. That's- Rob: That's a great point. Russell: ...so good. Speaker 4: I got a question. Rob: Yeah, go ahead. Speaker 4: So two big things that I heard from you, amongst your story, you were talking this positivity. When you were doing great at something, or you learned something, you're so excited about it, you're so positive, but then there's this other part of you that's very vulnerable. Russell: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Speaker 4: And so, you experience anxiety, or you have challenging days, or you're discouraged. How do you find the balance between those, of being vulnerable and being honest with how you're feeling, versus, "Hey, this is a challenge. I'm an entrepreneur, I can overcome this."? Matt: Right. Speaker 4: What's the balance? Russell: Yeah. That's good. One of the... Everyone who's met Tony has a story about how Tony's changed their life. But one of the biggest things that I... There's three or four things that I got from Tony, the very first time I went to his event and I heard him speak, that had a huge impact on me. One of the biggest ones was state control, understanding that. Have you ever heard him talk about the triad and things like that? Speaker 4: Yeah. Russell: I'd never heard that before, and I remember watching him do these things on people in the audience. And it was fascinating. He took a lady, who was... He picked somebody in the audience who was suicidal, and he's like... It was the weirdest thing. And he talked about the triad, right? There's three things that change your state, right? There's your language, there's your focus, and there's your physiology, right? So he takes someone, he's like, "I need someone who's suicidal." He takes this beautiful girl. I remember, we were up in Toronto, so then he takes this girl, and he's like, "I need you to get depressed. Not a little bit depressed, clinically suicidal." She's like, "What?" He's like, "Just get there in your mind. Whatever it takes, get dark." And you see her state change, right? And he keeps pushing her, and keep pushing her, and he gets her to this point. And anyway, it's crazy I'm watching this. And I'm kind of freaking out, because I'm watching him do this to this girl, getting her to a point... And soon, she's bawling her eyes out and everything. And he's like, "You got to get deeper. Get darker. More miserable." All this stuff. And you see him change this girl's state. And all of a sudden it stopped. And finally, it seemed like forever, finally he stops and he's like, "Everyone look at her. Watch her. Look at this." He's like, "What do you notice? What's her physiology?" You see her body, you see tears, and all this stuff. And you see her just broken. And then, he's like, "What do you say?" And he goes through the whole triad with her. And he shows that. And he's like, "Now I'm going to show you how quickly you can shift this." To the point where it's like... Anyway, it was crazy. And then, he shifts it, and he starts taking her back through, shifting the physiology, shifting her shoulders, shifting everything, shifting her meanings, shifting focus, shifting what she's saying. And he gets this girl, within three or four minutes, to literal ecstasy, it was crazy watching this. And you see her, where she's laughing... the opposite side of it. And I'd never seen somebody like that, the flip of emotions, how easy it was, by just shifting these three things in her. And it had such a profound impact on me. Caleb: Is there video of that? Russell: Not maybe the one I saw, but he does it at every UPW, he does it... I'm sure there's YouTube videos of it, as well. But if you type the triad, I think he calls it the triad or state control, things like that, you see it happen. But I saw that, and I was just like, "Oh my gosh, I never realized that we had control over that. I thought my feelings were my feelings." Like, "Here's your feeling." Like, "Okay, crap, this is the feeling I have today." And after experiencing that, I was like, "I could actually change this." I didn't know that. And it's interesting because I think sometimes when we're depressed, or we're sad, or we have these things, I think some of us like it. I've had times before, I don't want to be happy. I'm enjoying feeling miserable. And sometimes, I sit in there because I enjoy, because we do, it's weird. It's messed up. But I felt that. I'm like, "I could change this but I don't want to." But other times, I'm like, "I have to change it." Now that I've learned that. It's crazy you can shift your state, and you can do that and show up the way you need to be. And one practical example of how I use it a lot is, when I get home at the end of the night... And this kind of comes back to your question, I think, earlier, too. How do you do all the things? And I told you this yesterday. One of the things that I got the biggest, from being around Tony Robbins, the most impressive thing about him is when... Tony's got... As busy as any of us are, take that times 10, and that's Tony, right? He's the most busy person ever. But if you have a chance, a brief moment with Tony, where he's going to say a million things, and you have a second with him, he is the most present person I've ever met. The world dissolves around it, and it's just him and you, and there's nothing else. You can tell. And he's just zoned in on you, and it's this magical experience. And as soon as it's done, he's just gone, he's on the next thing. But that moment, he's hyper-present. And so, for me, when I'm doing things, it's like... Like, when I get home at night, at the end of the day, park my car, I walk in, and there's the door before I come into the house. And sometimes, I'm anxious, I'm thinking about work, and thinking about stuff, I'm stressed out, the FBI sent me a letter today, Taylor Swift suing me, whatever the thing is. And I'm like, "Ah." And then, I'm like, "I'm going to walk through that door, and I can't do anything about it now. My kids are there, my wife's there." And it's just like, "Okay, I got to change my state." And right there, before I walk through the door, I change my state. Get in the spot, and then like, "Okay, here we go." And I walk through the door, and it's like then I'm dad. And it's different, right? And so, I think it's learning those things. Because it's not... Your feelings are weird, they're going to show up in one way or the other, but the fact that you can control them, which I didn't understand or know how. But as soon as I realized that, it's just like, "I don't have to be sad, or miserable, or anxious, or whatever. I can actually change those things in a moment, if I understand how." And that was one of the greatest gifts Tony gave me, was just understanding how to do that, and seeing it in practical application with somebody. And now, it's like I can do it myself, any time I need to, if I need to. Matt: How do you act around Tony Robbins? Especially from the beginning to now, because you guys are close now. He probably looks at you like I look at a lot of these guys, that are Caleb's friends. I look at them like nephews, these are like... I'd do anything for them. And I know that... I can see that's how Tony starting to look at you. But take us from the very first time, because he didn't he have you come to an event, ask you a bunch of questions, take notes, and then just leave you hanging, or something like that. Tell the story, real quick. Russell: Oh, man. Tony's so intense. I still get scared to... It's still like, "Ah." Anyway, every time I see him, it's just like... I don't know, it's weird. His presence is- Matt: He still makes you nervous. Russell: Oh, yeah, for sure. But the very first time... So yeah, it was... I don't know, it was probably 04:00 in the morning. I don't even know. The shorter version of the long story is they asked me to come meet him in Toronto, at UPW, same event as this whole experience happened. So I went up there, and supposed to meet him one day, and it shifts to the next day. And if you ever work with Tony, just know if he tells you he's meeting you at 10:00, it could be like four days later you actually meet. You're on Tony time. Yeah, it's- Matt: That's just how it is. Russell: It's crazy, yeah. Just waiting. But it's always worth it, so you just wait and be grateful when it happens. But anyway, so we finally get to the point where we meet, and I have to drive 45 minutes. This is pre-Uber, so I'm in a taxi to some weird hotel. And we get there, and then me and his assistant stand outside for another hour, waiting in the lobby. He kept looking at his phone, nervously, like, "Ah." He's like, "Okay, Mr. Robbins' ready to meet you. Let's go." So we run up the stairs, we go to this thing, we walk in this room, and there's- Matt: And this is the first time you ever- Russell: ...body guards everywhere. First time I ever met him, yeah. Yeah, he's like a giant, comes and gives me a huge hug. And we sit down, and he's like, "You hungry?" I'm like, "Yeah." And he was vegetarian at the time, so he's like, "Get Russell some food." And brought me out this amazing plate of... I don't even know what it was. But it was... I was like, "If I could eat like this is every night, I'd be vegetarian." Because it was amazing. It was- Caleb: It was? Russell: ...insane. And then, got his tape recorder out, he's like, "You okay if we record this?" I'm like, "Yeah." So he clicks record, picks out a big journal, he's like, "You're Mormon, right?" I'm like, "Yeah." He's like, "I love the Mormon people. When I was eight years old, I went to a Mormon church and they told me to keep a journal. I've kept a journal ever since. Do you mind if I take notes while we talk?" Matt: Wow. Russell: I'm like, "Eh, okay." So he's recording, taking notes, and then he drilled me for an hour. Just like do, do, do. Just like- Speaker 4: And how long ago was this? Russell: This is 13, 14 years ago. Speaker 4: Okay. Russell: Anyway, it was intense. And I can't remember what I was saying, I was so scared, I'm second-guessing everything I've said. And then, he's asking me numbers and stats, because we were trying to do this deal with him. And it was so scary. Matt: So he was just drilling you with questions, and just trying to- Russell: Oh, like crazy, yeah. I'm trying to just... Yeah, dude. Anyway, it was crazy. And then, he had to go back to UPW to speak again, so he's like, "You want to drive with me?" So I'm like, "Yeah." So go down, and jump in his Escalade together, we're in the back seat, and we're driving. And it's just crazy. And I remember he asked me a question about this one... I won't say the person's name because the story isn't positive for the person. But he asked, he's like, "What do you think about so and so?" I'm like, "Oh, that person's really cool and really talented." He's like, "He's a very significant..." and he just talked about six human needs, earlier that day, so I was very aware of here's what the needs are, right? And he's like, "Yeah, I don't think I'd ever work with him, because he's very significance driven." And I was like, "Oh, that make sense." And all of a sudden, I was like, "Ah, Tony is reading my soul, right now." I was like, "What drives me? I don't even know what drives me. Does he know what drives me?" Like, "Oh my gosh, am I significance driven?" I'm freaking out, like, "Ah." And all I remember is panicking, thinking, "He knows more about me than I know about me, at this point." And all these things, I'm freaking out, we're driving in his Escalade. And we get to the thing, and he's like, "I got to go inside. Thank you so much, brother. I love you." Jumps out the car, shuts the door. I'm sitting in the Escalade, like, "What just happened?" Matt: It was that fast. Russell: It was insane, yeah. Matt: It was just like- Russell: And then, the driver's like, "Do you want to get out here? Do you want me to drive you somewhere?" Like, "I don't even know where we are." We're in Toronto somewhere, that's all I know. And so, it was just the craziest experience. And then, I don't hear from him for four or five months, nothing. And I'm like- Matt: What were you thinking? Did you think- Russell: I was like, "He must've hated me. Maybe I failed the test. Am I significance driven?" I'm freaking out about all the things. And then, one day, I get this random... It was actually my wife and I, we were celebrating our anniversary, so we were at... It was a StomperNet event, but we took her, it was this cool thing. And she'd just gone to UPW. I sent her like three months later. So she walked on fire, and she was like... And Tony talks about Fiji there, so she was like, "Someday we should go to Fiji." And then, we get this call from Tony, and it was like, "Hey..." Or it was Tony's assistant. Like, "Hey, Tony wants to know if you want to speak at Business Mastery in Fiji, in two weeks." I was like, "Tony Robbins..." I started saying it out loud so Collette could hear me. "Tony Robbins wants me to speak in Fiji, in two weeks?" And Collette, my cute little wife, starts jumping on the bed, like, "Say yes! Say yes!" Caleb: Aw! Russell: And I was like, "Yes, yes, yes. Of course, we will." And then, we're like, we've got three kids that are all toddlers at this time, and like, "Can we bring kids?" They're like, "There's no kids allowed on the resort." I'm like, "We've got three little kids." He's like, "Ah, all right. We'll figure it out." So I hang up, and we're like, "We don't have passports for the kids, we don't have anything." So anyway, it was chaos, we're freaking out. We ended up getting them there, they literally built a fence around our... The Bula house, where's Dan at? The Bula house we were in. They built a whole fence around, so our kids wouldn't die because- Caleb: Did they really? Russell: ...there's cliffs off the back. Yeah, it was crazy. And then, I'm speaking to this room, and there's less than 100 people. I'm speaking, and Tony's sitting in the back of this room, I'm like- Matt: While you're speaking. Russell: ..."I thought he was not going to be here. This is really scary." Yeah. And he's paying attention the whole time. Matt: Does it make you more nervous? Russell: He introduced me, he brought me on stage, which was like... I still have the footage of that, it's really cool. He brought me on stage, which was crazy. And then, I remember, because in the thing we're talking about lead generation, I was talking about squeeze pages. And afterwards, he got on. He comes up afterwards, he's like, "Yeah, I heard squeeze pages don't work anymore. Is that true, Russell?" He's like, "People say they're kind of dead, they don't work anymore." And this is, again, 12 years ago. And I was like, "Who told you that? They totally still work." Which is funny, because we still use them today. But he was just like, "Somebody had told me they don't work anymore." And I was like, "They..." anyway, "They work, I promise." But anyway, and then I don't hear from him for five years, and then something else happens. It's just weird, these long extended periods of time. But then, every time, every moment, I tried... Five years later, it was a call, it was like, "Hey, Tony's doing this thing. He wants your opinion on it." So I spent like two or three hours with his team, consulting, giving feedback, as much ideas as I could. And like, "Cool, thanks." And then, nothing for two years, and then something else, and then... Little things keep happening, and happening, and can do more and more together. And then- Matt: What did you learn from that? You think that's just- Russell: A couple things I've learned. Number one, I'm sure you guys get this a lot, people who want to work with you, they show up and the first thing they show up with is, "All right, I got an idea how we can make a bunch of money together." Right? They always come, and want to figure out how they can take from you. And I was so scared, and grateful, I didn't ever ask Tony for anything. The first time I asked Tony for anything ever was 12 into our relationship, after Expert Secrets book was done. I had just paid him $250,000 to speak on our stage, and just finished the interview promoting his book. And I was like, "Hey, I wrote a new book. Do you want one?" Matt: Wow. Russell: And he's like, "Oh." And he took it. I'm like, "Cool." And then, a week later, I'm like, "Ah, will you interview me on Facebook with this?" He's like, "Sure." And then, he did, and that video got three and a half million views on it. It was crazy, coolest thing ever. But it was 12 years before I asked him for anything. And I had- Matt: Wow. Russell: ...served him at as many different points as I can. I think the biggest lesson from that is that... And I get it all the time, people come to me and it's like they're trying to ask and take. It's just like... I get it, and it makes sense. But it's just like, "This game's not a short game. If you do it right, it's your life. This is your life mission." Right? Matt: Yeah, that's good. Russell: And so it's just understanding you're planting seeds, and you're serving, and if you do that, eventually good things will happen. And something may never happen with Tony, and that's cool. I do stuff for a lot of people, and nothing ever good ever comes from it. But hopefully something does. Sometimes it's indirect, sometimes it's not, sometimes it's just karma, or whatever you believe in. But if you just always go with the intent to serve, not to like, "What's in it for me?" It just changes everything. And then, if you do that, if you lead with how to serve, stuff comes back to you. But if you lead with trying to get stuff, it just doesn't work. The energy's different in the whole encounter. You know what I mean? Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: So I'm sure you guys have felt that with people, when they first come to you, and it's just like, "Ah." Matt: So is there a point where you... You went to his house. Russell: That was cool. The thing I can say is it was really cool, because most times when I'm with Tony, you're around people. In Fiji, it was fun seeing him, because he's more personal and stuff like that. But it was really special in his home, because it was him and his wife, and it was cool. It was fun just seeing him as him, like as a kid. And even my wife, like, "He seems like a kid here." He was so excited, and showing us his stuff, and all the things. Matt: Ah, well, guys, listen. Russell: Anyway- Matt: A few more questions, because I mean, man, you've been at it for almost two hours, dude. I can go all night, and I know he could. But Brea Morrison, give it up for her for letting us be here. Thank you so much. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part three of this special 4 part episode series.

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Russell Brunson: What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you've been enjoying this series so far. This is The Roundtable of World Changers, a conversation I had with Matt and Caleb Maddix, and a whole bunch of young entrepreneurs, who are literally out there trying to change the world.

This is part three of a four part episode, because the conversation went for three or four hours. And so, this episode's also going to be about 40 minutes long, and it's the next set of questions they asked me. And if you've listened to the last two, you know that these guys ask a lot of questions, in a lot of different directions, and angles, and went all over the place.

And I think this time is probably 01:00 or 02:00 in the morning. And so, the questions started going from everywhere, from business, to relationships, to families, and a whole bunch more. So I hope you enjoy this next episode. Here's some of the bullet points of things you're going to learn about.

We talked about the 10 commandments of marketing. I talked about my very first mentor, and a thing he taught me, not just to make money in the short term, but how to build a business that now has lasted me for almost two decades. I talk about one of my friends and mentors, Daegen Smith and something that he taught me. It was so simple, yet it's been the key to help me get thousands of people a day to join my email list.

We talked about leadership, delegation, scheduling. We talk about, as you're building a team, understanding people's unique abilities. Talked about how much time you spend thinking about the future. Talked about proximity with billionaires. We also talked about how to balance your business and married life, so you can be a good husband and a good father, which is something that I stress about all the time.

We talked about a principle that I learned from Stacey and Paul Martino, that has been one of the most powerful things I've learned, which is called demand-relationship. I talk about that. We talk about some relationship tricks, for those who are either married or getting married. Some of the newlyweds, and the engaged couples, were asking some questions about that. Hopefully I don't get in trouble for sharing some of my tricks.

We talked about knowing what your values are, and your priorities. Talked about being vulnerable, and being honest, versus staying positive through challenges. We talked about some of the biggest principles and things I learned from Tony Robbins, including how to change your state whenever you need to. And we talked about my 12 year relationship with Tony Robbins, and all the things behind that.

We talked about... I don't want to spoil any more. You guys, this is a fun interview. And hopefully, you've been enjoying these so far. So with that said, we're going to cut to the theme song. When we come back, we're going to take you guys immediately back into this conversation. This is, again, The Roundtable of World Changers, part three of four.

Matt Maddix: Let's say there was a Russell Brunson 10 commandments. You know how God had one.

Russell: Thou shall build a list.

Matt: Yeah. How high is this in the 10 commandments?

Russell: My first mentor, Mark…

Matt: And what would be some of the Russell Brunson... Let's come up with some of them. Like, "Thou shalt..."

Russell: We need some stone tablets.

Matt: "To all the funnel hackers, thou shalt and thou shall not." I want to hear-

Russell: That would be a fun presentation, actually.

Matt: Yeah, that would be, actually.

Caleb Maddix: That would be.

Russell: That would be cool.

Matt: Dude, you need to do that.

Russell: Come back from the mountain, we have 10 things.

Matt: Yeah, seriously.

Caleb: Wow. That'd be awesome.

Matt: No, the five 'thou shalts', and like, "Thou shall..." and then-

Russell: "Thou shall..."

Matt: ..."Thou shall not, no matter what..." What would some of those be?

Russell: That could be a really cool presentation, actually. Well, so I would say, in my first venture was Mark Joyner, and he was the one... So in context, in history, 18 years when I started, Mark Joyner... I don't think it's probably known. He's brilliant. But he built a company, and sold it off. And at the very end of his career as a coach person, I got to meet him and get to know him a little bit.

But I remember, at that time, Google AdSense was this thing that came. And so, if any of you guys are old enough, just try and remember the Google AdSense days. It was insane. They were software. You click a button on software, it would pop out of site, pop out another site. And these sites would make anywhere from 100 to $1000 a day. And you just keep clicking this button, it would pop out another site.

And so, people were making $1 million a month. They had teams in the Philippines, that these guys just clicking the button to build the software. It was just... But it was all fake. But it was tons of money. Insane amounts of money. I had friends making so much money. And shiny object, very shiny object, the most sexy shiny object of all time. You click a button, you can make $1 million. That was it, that was the pitch. And it was true.

Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Russell: For so... Everyone I knew. Can you imagine that?

Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Russell: If I go back in time, 18 years ago, I would move to the Philippines, I would hire everybody, and we would just click buttons. And I would've been-

Caleb: Wow.

Russell: ...a billionaire. It was-

Caleb: Wow.

Russell: It was insane. That's how Google got people adopting the AdSense program. So people would put ads on every single site, every single everything. And so, I'm getting in this game, I'm seeing this, and I'm morons making insane amounts of money. And I was like, "Ah!"

And Mark had just become my mentor, the very first time, and he's like, "That's going to go away. Focus on building a list." I'm like, "But this guy's a moron. He made $1 million last month clicking a button. No strategy, no brains, no nothing." He's like, "I know, but it's going to go away. Focus on building a list." I'm like-

Matt: Wow.

Russell: But-

Matt: Seriously?

Russell: "He's clicking a button. Building lists is hard." He's like, "Build a list." I'm like... And I remember fighting him and fighting him, he's just like, "Dude, trust me. I've been on cycle. It's going to go away. Just focus and focus."

And I was so upset, but I listened because I do that. One thing I pride myself on, I'm very coachable. Coach tells me something, I do it. I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence.

Matt: I love it.

Russell: They tell me to do it, I do it, right? So I was like, "Ah, but there's free money in piles-"

Matt: Even when it's hard-

Russell: "All right."

Matt: ...you do it.

Russell: So I did it. And sure enough, I was doing that, and doing that, within six months, this things collapsed, disappeared, destroyed people's lives. Because you're making $1 million a month clicking buttons, what do you do? Especially as a young kid.

Matt: Spending that much money.

Russell: You're buying Lambos, and Ferraris, and helicopters, and pilots, and girls, and insane amounts of money. And then it disappears overnight. Devastating, ruined these guys, ruined them, so many people.

Matt: There’s no skill behind that at all.

Russell: Yeah. And I had a list, and I just coasted through it. Right? And I've looked at the SEOs, every single up and down, up and down, through the years, and I just listened to Mark and just focused on building my list, focused on building it, and-

Matt: So you still feel that as strong today, as when you heard it?

Russell: 100%.

Matt: Even then.

Russell: 100%. That’s one of our KPIs. How many people doing lists today? Every single day.

Matt: Really? Everyday?

Russell: Everyday. Because I did it for a long time-

Matt: Even now, you're saying?

Russell: 100%, everyday. John Parkes everyday sends me a number. “How many people joined our list yesterday?” That’s all I want to know.

Caleb: What's your guys' email open rates?

Russell: It fluctuates. 20 ish percent.

Caleb: Okay.

Russell: Around there. But it was funny because I remember, I had forgotten that lesson after a while. And if you guys know Daegen Smith, Daegen, he's getting back in the game now. He's brilliant. But I remember I had a list, and I was my money off of it. I wasn't focusing on it. And I remember he asked me a question, he said, "How many..." It wasn't, "How many people are on your list?" Because that's what most people ask, "How big's your list?" But he asked me a different question, which input output, right?

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: The question was, "How many people joined your list today?" And I was like, "I don't know." He's like, "Go look right now." I'm like, "Okay." So I log in, and look at the thing, it was like 12. And I was like, "12?" And I was like, "Is that good or bad? I don't know." And he's like, "Let me show you mine." And he showed me his, and it was like 1400. And I was like, "You had 1400 people join today?" He's like, "Yeah." "Wait, how'd you do that?" He's like, "I just look at it everyday. And when I look at it everyday, somehow it grows." And I was like-

Matt: Wow.

Russell: "Okay." So then, everyday, after I log in and look at my thing, it was like 12, I'm like, "Ah." In my head, I'm like, "Fricken Daegen had 1400. I only 12."

Caleb: Yeah.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: And also, I was like, "What do I do to get people to join the list?"

Matt: Yeah, start optimizing.

Russell: And then, your mind starts thinking differently, and all of a sudden you start focusing on it. And it's crazy. I can't tell you how many entrepreneurs, that have been in my world, who have gone up and then come down. And what happens, mostly, is they do something, they build a big list, they stop adding fuel to the fire, they have this list, they sell things to the list, the list atrophies, and eventually starts shrinking and dying. And then, they don't know how to build lists, the business crashes and dies.

Matt: I hope you guys are really listening. Really. I mean, he's-

Caleb: That's powerful.

Matt: ...saving your life right now.

Russell: The question, the goal, every single day, is that, because it's a fuel to your fire. And what happens was you stop putting fuel on the fire, and it doesn't die immediately. So you're like, "Oh, I've turned off Ads, so I'm good. But I'm just going to focus on emails, let's focus that." But just every email you send out, your list atrophies, shrinks, dies. And then, eventually, it'll just die. And so, yeah, if you're not consistently, constantly feeding the list, every single day-

Matt: And once you have the list, what's the biggest mistake people make with their list?

Russell: They don't email it.

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: They're scared to... You think it's too much emails. It's not, it's the opposite. It's that they don't email.

Caleb: Okay.

Russell: Minimum of three times a week. Closer to everyday.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: If you talk to Daegen, it's twice a day, everyday.

Matt: Really?

Caleb: What other KPIs do you have sent to you every single day?

Russell: I want to know how much we made yesterday, striped. Because first off, it's cool to know.

Caleb: Yeah.

Russell: But second off, also it's like, I want that number to be bigger everyday. So it's like, actual money in the thing, how many people joined the list today, and how many books are sold, how many ClickFunnels members. Those are the ones for me. Our teams have other KPIs they focus on. But those are the ones I care about.

Matt: So out of 30 days, when you hear the numbers, how often are you pissed and how often are you like, "Yeah."?

Russell: Nowadays, it's always pretty good.

Matt: Nowadays, it's like, "Woo."

Russell: Because it might go up or down a little bit, but the numbers are big enough, that it's just like, "That's so crazy." I remember... Anyway. I remember just the growth of ClickFunnels, because you know Stripe dings every day with your numbers. I remember when we started going, it got to the point where it's like $10,000 a day, I was like, "$10,000 a day is insane. That's just so cool." And then, it got to a point where it's like $20,000 a day, and then 30, and then $50,000 a day, and then $100,000 a day, and then 150, then 200, 250, 300. I'm just like, "This is insane to me, that this is a daily thing that come..." it was just...

Anyway, that's when it got just weird. And it makes me mad because Todd made a commitment to me, that as soon as we passed $500,000 a month in sales, he'd move to Boise.

Matt: And he didn't yet?

Russell: No. So...

Matt: You were out of there already.

Russell: And then, I was like, "Well, we have $500,000 a day." And then, he still hasn't come. So I don't know. Some day. Do you think Todd will ever move to Boise?

Speaker 4: Plus I'm curious if I could pop in to ask a question.

Russell: Yeah, feel free.

Speaker 4: I've always wanted to ask someone of your stature, that's done as much as you have, impacted as much people as you have, and really built the business that you have. So I'm curious on your take on leadership, building a team, delegating, and your schedule and how you go about scheduling your day, and prioritizing what's important for you, as a business owner, and what you delegate to your employees and their responsibilities as well. So leadership, delegating, and scheduling.

Russell: Good question. It's interesting because I would say I'm not the best leader on my team, by any stretch. And so, it was interesting because I spent the first four or five years with ClickFunnels as the CEO, trying to do my best with it. But it wasn't my unique ability, is leadership. I feel like I'm good at leading a community, but I struggle a lot more with employees and teams, internally.

And so, about a year ago or so, I handed the reins to Dave Woodward, to be the CEO of ClickFunnels. And he's been amazing. Man, what he's done inside the company has been awesome. And I think a big part of it is understanding, at least for me personally, I was trying to be a leader, and trying to develop that, but I wasn't the best at it.

And I think sometimes we think it's always got to be us. Like, "It's my company, I got to be the CEO. I got to be the leader. I got to do these things." It's understanding that a lot of times there's people who are really good. Who's the best you could find to be that? Or any part of our business. You know what I mean? It's a big part of it.

The second thing is, if you've studied Dan Sullivan at all, one of his biggest things is unique ability. That's the thing. What's your unique ability? What's everybody's unique ability? And I think when you start a company, it's tough because it's like everyone's in charge of everything, right? I'm the CEO, but I'm also taking out the garbage, I'm also doing... everyone's

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Russell: ...doing a little bit of everything, which is cool. When you're scrappy in the beginning, that's important, and everyone's doing that. But as you grow, that starts hindering you more and more and more, where we had people who are insanely talented, who if I could just get them doing this thing, 100% of the time... And that's when it got to the point with ClickFunnels, is that my unique abilities are writing, are being in videos, are building funnels, doing the... Those things are my unique abilities.

Caleb: Engineering.

Russell: Yeah. And I was spending maybe 10% of my time on that, and 90% of the time in meetings, and trying-

Matt: Wow.

Russell: ...coordinate people, and leadership. And it was stressful and it was hard.

Matt: And you were draining. You were probably drained doing that.

Russell: Yeah. And I was miserable, that was just... I wasn't good at it. Not feeling good, like, "Ah, I'm not getting through to people. I can't figure this out." But I felt like I had to own, I had to be the guy, I had to do the thing because this is my baby, this is my business. And the last 12 months has been crazy, because I handed it to someone who actually is good at that, that is his unique ability. And I'm watching company structure, and meetings, and KPIs, things that I was never super good at doing, and consistently having it all happening now.

And now, I'm in the marketing department again, and I'm building funnels. People are like, "What do you do all day?" I'm literally in ClickFunnels, building funnels. "No, but you have funnel builder..." No, I'm literally in ClickFunnels, building funnels. I didn't start this business because I wanted to be a CEO of a big huge company. I did it because I love building funnels. I'm an artist, when it comes down to it, this is my art.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: And that's what I get to do now. And it's amazing. So Dan's got Fridays we book out, and we spend videos, he's got a whole bunch of YouTube videos, we film five or six YouTube vlogs last week, on Friday. So we have that times blocked out to do that, right? I'm writing my next book right now, so I've got my mornings blocked out to write books, because that's when my mind's got not a million things so I can do that.

And then, after morning comes in, after I do my wrestling practice, I come in. And that's my teams there, and that's when we're building funnels. I got my designer and my copywriter, the people, and I get to facilitate that. And I feel like the... What's the guy in the orchestra, the maestro?

Caleb: Conductor?

Russell: Yeah, like I'm the conductor, I'm conducting all these talented people. And everyone's bringing... And I'm alive, and it's exciting. And at night, I can't sleep, because I'm excited again. And so, I think that's the biggest thing, is taking the pressure off yourself if you're not the best leader. That's okay. What are you the actual best at?

And success, in business, I think, at least for me, I always thought I had to be the best at everything. And it's the opposite, where it's like, "How do you focus on the thing you're best at? And get the rest of the people around you."

Speaker 4: Yeah. And it gets-

Matt: And it's... You had to have been willing to let go of your ego, man. Or you wouldn't have been able to grow so much. If you try to do it all yourself...

Caleb: So I have a question. How much time do you spend actually thinking about the future? Because it seems like, from what you've told us, you're very dialed in and obsessed on the process, and that's how you've gotten to where you are, up to this point, because you're in love with the game. How much of your time do you spend thinking about the future, and what's on the horizon next year, five years, 10 years? Does that cross your mind? Or what does that look like?

Russell: It's interesting, I can't remember who was talking to about this... The further out you look, the fuzzier it gets. You know what I mean? And so, I think for me, it's like we have... I know where I want to go, but the in between is really, really fuzzy, right? It's hard to know. And so, it's like I know...

For me, the last big boat was $100 million, the next one's a billion. So we know there's the thing. But it's so far from... I don't know the steps to get there. You know what I mean? And so, for me, it's more like, "Well, here's where we're at." In fact, that was my... We had a chance, last month, to go spend a day with Tony Robbins, and we each had a chance to ask him one question. So that was literally my question, just like...

Matt: What was your question?

Russell: My question... It'll be a blog soon. Not yet though. No, but it was basically like, "We've gotten to this point, and I know to get to the next goal, the things we've been doing are great and they got us to this point, but I have to think differently to here. I don't know how to think differently. How do you think... It's not another book I'm... Is it a book? How do I think differently?"

And what Tony said, that was... it's a very... He said a lot of things, but one of the big things was like, "Proximity is power," like, "You have to be in proximity with people who have already accomplished the thing that you're trying to do." And it was interesting because I look at the path of how I grew ClickFunnels, I did that 100%. I was like, "All right, who are the..." and we found the people, got proximity, and then grew it to this point.

So eventually, we kind of coded out of the people who I was aware of. So I asked Tony, I'm like, "Well, where would you go to?" And he's like, "Well, if it was me," he's like, "Who's built the billion dollar company?" He's like, "Marc Benioff." And he started naming all these different billionaires. And this and that, all these things. And I was just like, "I never even assumed those people could... I could be..." it seems so far away. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's..." Having a proximity to those people, and start thinking differently, because I don't know the journey but they've done it.

Because someone in our world, and like, "How do [inaudible 00:16:13]?" I'm like, "This is literally a 13 minute project. There you go. [inaudible 00:16:16]." It's like I've done it so many times, it's not hard, right? But for them, it's like this is the rocket science to figure it out. And then the same way with these guys who have built billion dollar companies. So now it's trying to proximity to those people, and trying to get around them, and trying to figure out the journey.

So the first thing we did, literally, I got out with Tony, Tony gave the answer to the question, and I knew the first guy I needed to get into proximity with. So I texted Dave, Dave called him up, we brought him on retainer. And now, we've got him an hour a week, to get on the phone with him and just ask him all of our questions. And have him introduce us all the different players at that next level.

So a lot of it's that. Dave, who's the CEO, was very focused on all the... He's very much like, "Okay, first, to get to this goal, we have to have everyone here, here, here. These are the percentages, the numbers, all the..." Those things stress me out, I hate spreadsheets. He's always got spreadsheets. But he comes back with all the spreadsheets, I was like, "All I need to know from you is... Because I'm going to be building a funnel. What's the goal? What do you need from me to be able to do that?" He's like, "We need more ClickFunnels trials." Like, "Done. I can... Okay. That's where I'm going to focus my energy."

And then, it's like, now I can creative on that piece, because I know this is the metric that I can do, with my skillset, to drive it. And everybody's got a metric, right? The traffic team, everybody's got a metric. But for me personally, it's like the only thing I actually affect in a short term, micro, and then I can focus all the creativity and effort on that, while trying to figure out how to shift my mind set to be bigger, to...

Caleb: If Marc Benioff offered you $1 billion for ClickFunnels, what would you say?

Speaker 4: Good question.

Russell: I'd ask him for five.

Matt: Good response!

Rob: Can I ask you a question, outside of business?

Matt: You asking a question? Oh.

Rob: Yeah.

Matt: Oh, go ahead.

Rob: So I remember you were talking about your wife earlier, with how you wanted to get her the couch. Me and my fiance actually met at ClickFunnels, at your event.

Matt: Yeah.

Rob: So-

Matt: ClickFunnels wedding.

Russell: No way.

Rob: So what I'm curious about is-

Russell: Am I going to be the best man at the wedding?

Caleb: I told you, you've got to come, I'm like, "You've got to invite Russell."

Rob: So what I wanted to ask you is, obviously you run a nine figure company, and there's a lot that goes into that, how do you balance with, let's say, number one, your wife and then your kids as well? And then, what is your secret to a really successful marriage, that's worked for you?

Matt: Dude, what-

Rob: I think that's something that many entrepreneurs have good marriages that don't really get asked about. So I was just curious about that.

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: So I hear three questions in there, right? So balance, happy wife... What was... There was a third one?

Caleb: Kids.

Rob: Yeah, just balancing it, running a company. I mean, you do all these things, you also have a wife, you have kids.

Russell: Yeah. So I would say a couple things. So number one is balance is this thing that we all, for some reason, in our mind, we all seek after. But everything great in my life has come from times of radical imbalance. When I wanted to become a wrestler, I wasn't a great wrestler because I was balanced, it was because I became radically imbalanced in that thing.

Matt: Dang.

Russell: It became the most important thing in my life, and everything else suffered. But I had to do it to be considered successful. When I met my wife, we didn't create a great relationship because we were balanced, I became radically imbalanced. And all my time and effort and focus was on her. And that's why it became great. ClickFunnels, same way. We built ClickFunnels, I was not balanced. We had to become radically imbalanced for a season, to focus actually to get...

So that's the thing to understand. In anything great in life, you can't do it in a point of balance. It's radical imbalance that causes greatness.

Matt: And that's golf.

Russell: And so, you got to be okay with that. But it can't be for forever. It's got to be something that goes, and it comes and goes. Because people who get radically imbalanced for a long time, they can lose their family, they can lose their kids.

Rob: Was there a point where you had to tell your wife, "Hey, this is what I really want to do."?

Russell: A lot. She had to-

Rob: And she had to just-

Russell: ...be on board with-

Rob: ...get on board.

Russell: She had to get on board, yeah. And if she wasn't, I had to say, "Okay, what's more important?" If it was her, then I had to say no to that. And there's been many opportunities in my life I've had to say no to.

Rob: What's that dynamic like, being that guys are together, just as far as working out just normal little things?

Russell: So I-

Rob: Just decisions, those kind of things.

Russell: Yeah, well, marriage, you're going to find out, it's hard. Just so fully aware. No one told me that, going into it. I was like-

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: I was like, "This is going to be amazing. This is going to be the greatest thing in the world." And it is, it's awesome. But man, it is way harder than I thought.

Rob: Just to be a person.

Russell: Yeah, someone's... I, actually, I would highly recommend Stacey and Paul Martino have a course that my wife and I have gone through the last year, and it's amazing. There's a principle they teach about demand-relationship. If you just go through their... They have a 14 day quick start, it's like $100. But if you just learn the principles of demand-relationship, what they teach. The biggest game changer in a relationship I ever... Of all the things I've studied...

Rob: Why?

Russell: It is amazing.

Rob: What was your take-away?

Russell: The principle of demand-relationship is that, throughout history and society, the way that most of us get things done is that... So in a relationship, there's a power player, and there's someone less, right? And if I want my wife to do something, I'm going to demand, like, "I need you to do these things." Right?

And that works, until the other person has the ability to leave. So prior to divorce being a thing, men, throughout history, have had a dominant relationship over women. They used to manage and get what they want, and women couldn't leave. And so, it was a horrible thing, right? But they couldn't leave.

As soon as divorce happened, boom, it started happening. Right? When parents come over to their kids and give demand-relationship, as soon as the kids are able to leave, it breaks. And then, breaks his relationships. And so, that's the problem, is that for the last 5000 years, that's been our DNA, that men force women to do these different things.

And that's what the demand-relationship is. Their whole training, their whole course, everything they teach is the opposite of demand-relationship. How do you create a relationship, where transformation happens through inspiration, not through demanding, and chasing. And it's tough because, for all of us, especially men, it's been so ingrained in our DNA that if we want something, we... That's how we do business, how we do things. But in a relation, especially an intimate relationship, it's the worst thing that could possibly happen.

And that's what we all do. So it'd be worth... I'm hoping she writes a book some day, because it's... In my new book, I have a whole chapter, actually, teaching her framework on in demand-relationship. What's that?

Rob: Were you high school sweethearts?

Russell: College, we met in college.

Rob: So she was with you before you started...

Russell: Yeah.

Rob: ...and had the huge success-

Russell: Yeah.

Rob: ...basically.

Russell: Yeah.

Rob: What was that transition like, from you guys, I guess, being... struggling, and you guys stay together-

Matt: Good questions, Rob.

Rob: ...to now-

Russell: His mindset's on this.

Rob: Yeah.

Russell: Going into it.

Rob: What is that like? I'm just curious, because I mean people don't really talk about this, I guess, a lot.

Caleb: Relationship genius.

Russell: Yeah. And it's different, because some relationships, both the people are in the business, some aren't. My wife's not involved in the business at all. She...

Rob: Oh, okay.

Russell: ...doesn't understand it, and she doesn't want to be part of it. And that's okay. It's like sometimes that's been the biggest blessing for me, sometimes it's been hard.

Caleb: Yeah.

Russell: Right? Sometimes I see the power couples, who are both in the business, and it's really, really cool. But I ask them, and they're like, "Sometimes it's a great blessing, sometimes it's really hard." So there's pro's and con's both ways.

But I think the biggest part is just, this has been good for our relationship, and at first we didn't always have this, but it was like... Just figuring out how to get... You both have to have that same end goal, otherwise you're fighting against each other, right? And so, when we were building ClickFunnels and stuff, it was hard at first, because she didn't really... She's like, "What are you guys doing? You spend all this time and..." didn't understand it.

And it was tough because I was trying to explain it. And luckily, for me, is that Todd was part of this too, and his wife was kind of struggling. So they had each other to kind of talk through it. But it wasn't until the very first Funnel Hacking Live, where... Because my wife had never been to one of my events before, anything we'd really... She knew what kind of we did, but not really.

And she came to Funnel Hacking Live, the very first one. And she didn't come down at first, because she didn't realize what was happening. And she was doing some stuff, and then, she came down with one of her friends and walked in the back of the room, and saw all the stuff. And she started just crying. She was like, "Oh, this is what you're... I had no idea this is what was happening, and what was..."

And then, it became real for her. And that was such a huge blessing for me, because now, the next time, it was like, "We have to work hard for this." Or, "We're planning for..." whatever, she was able to see this is the fruits, and like, "Oh, that's why you're doing it." Now, if you notice, my wife's, every Funnel Hacking Live, front row. She doesn't understand a word we're saying, but she's there, she's paying attention, because she's like, "Look at all the people, and their lives are changing, and impacting." And now, it's different, where when I got to do work, work late nights, or whatever, she sees the vision, and she's on board with it. So it makes so much easier.

The other secret I learned is if I tell her, if it's like 05:00 at night, I'm like, "Crap, I got to stay late tonight." And I call her at 05:00 at night, nothing good can come from that. It's better if you just go home, right? If I know Wednesday night, I'm going to be working late, I tell her Monday. Like, "Hey, Wednesday night, there's a good chance I'm going to be late." And then, if I tell her that, she's totally cool with it, right? But you don't tell them the day of. It'll destroy your marriage more than anything.

Matt: That's good wisdom.

Russell: The other secret, this secret don't put on camera, I don't want my wife to...

Matt: Is that right?

Russell: Yeah, if I have any inclination that people are coming to town, or something's happening, I always like, "Just so you know, next week, Matt and Caleb are coming to town. There's a good shot we might go to dinner at night, just so you're fully aware." And she's like, "Cool." And then, it's fine. The other secret, this is the real one. So don't share this outside this room.

Speaker 4: This is the off camera one.

Russell: Yeah. So especially after... For my wife and I... So we started having kids, the same time I started this business, right? And so, I'm traveling, I'm going to events. And she's at home with the kids. And so, we never traveled before, so I'm going on these vacations, I'm meeting these cool people, I'm in hotel rooms. So every night, I'm getting back, and I'm like, "Oh my gosh." And I'm like, "Okay, I met so and so, and then..." all these things I'm so excited, so pumped about these things. And I'm telling her about stuff, and she's at home with twin babies, miserable, tired, horrible, feet hurt, body hurt. And I'm out having the time of my life.

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: And I'm thinking she's going to be pumped for me, right?

Matt: Right.

Russell: No. And for probably a year or so, I was just like... And then, one day, I remember I'm at some event, and I get cornered by people. And then, introverted Russell's like... anxiety, and it was horrible. And somebody cornered me in the bathroom, and asking me questions while I'm peeing. And it wasn't even... At least, sometimes, most of the time, they fake pee next to you, so at least it's not awkward. He was sitting next to me, watching me pee. I'm like, "Can you at least fake pee?"

And so, anyway... It was so bad. And I got home that night, and I call her on the phone, and I was just like, "It was horrible." I went off about how horrible it was, and I was miserable. And she's like, "Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry." But then, she was cool. It was awesome. And I was like, "I didn't get in trouble." And so, the next time I went out, I got home that night, call her, I was like, "Oh, it was horrible. My feet hurt, my back hurts."

Anyway, and I've told so many people this, entrepreneurs and friends, who do that, and they shift... Because they don't want to hear you're having this... Anyway, is this truly good or not? I don't know. It saved my marriage.

Matt: Is it true?

Russell: Literally saved my marriage, and it saved so many of my friends, who… so many of friends, who had the same thing. They want to hear the stories, but not in the moment. When you come back home later, you tell the stories, they love it. But in the moment, when they're miserable, and you're having fun, it is not... First time with Tony Robbins, when I walked on fire, I call her that night, I'm like, "I just walked on fire. Waaa!" And I hear the kids screaming in the background, and she was angry. And I was like, "Huh."

And I'm like, "Cool, I'm sending you to walk on fire next month." I sent her to walk on fire, and then she was on fire. But it was like...

Caleb: She's like, "No."

Russell: Later, she wants to hear, but not in the moment, because it's just like... Anyway, so-

Rob: Yeah.

Russell: ...that was-

Rob: Makes sense.

Russell: ...life changing for... Anyway, so... And then, the other thing is just you have to understand what your values are. I learned this from Tom Bilyeu at a level that was fascinating, recently. But-

Caleb: Who was that?

Russell: Tom Bilyeu, he runs Impact Theory.

Caleb: Oh, okay.

Rob: Impact Theory.

Caleb: Gotcha.

Russell: But he writes out his values, but he prioritizes them. So his number one value is his wife, number two... And he has the values written out. And so, when a conflict comes in place, or he gets asked to speak at a huge event, speak for the Queen of England, or whatever, but it's the same weekend as his wife wants something. He's like, "My wife trumps the value... 100%, she trumps it. So the answer's no, and it's not hard for me to say no."

Caleb: Wow.

Russell: And so, it's figuring it out for yourself. What are your values? Personally, with your family, the wife, everything like that. And you define them, and then it's like there's no question. That's what hard, is when you value something here, and your spouse values something differently, and the conflict of that is what causes the fights, right? But if you get on the same page, like, "Look, this is number one, two..." You have these things, then it makes it easier to navigate those things, because it's like, "No, I understand this is one of the values we have together, as a couple, you should go do that thing." Or whatever the thing might be. So anyway...

Caleb: That's awesome.

Russell: But marriage is one of the hardest things, but one of the most rewarding things, at the same time. So it's worth it, but it's a ride. Go through demand-relationship, man. That's-

Rob: That's a great point.

Russell: ...so good.

Speaker 4: I got a question.

Rob: Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 4: So two big things that I heard from you, amongst your story, you were talking this positivity. When you were doing great at something, or you learned something, you're so excited about it, you're so positive, but then there's this other part of you that's very vulnerable.

Russell: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Speaker 4: And so, you experience anxiety, or you have challenging days, or you're discouraged. How do you find the balance between those, of being vulnerable and being honest with how you're feeling, versus, "Hey, this is a challenge. I'm an entrepreneur, I can overcome this."?

Matt: Right.

Speaker 4: What's the balance?

Russell: Yeah. That's good. One of the... Everyone who's met Tony has a story about how Tony's changed their life. But one of the biggest things that I... There's three or four things that I got from Tony, the very first time I went to his event and I heard him speak, that had a huge impact on me. One of the biggest ones was state control, understanding that. Have you ever heard him talk about the triad and things like that?

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Russell: I'd never heard that before, and I remember watching him do these things on people in the audience. And it was fascinating. He took a lady, who was... He picked somebody in the audience who was suicidal, and he's like... It was the weirdest thing. And he talked about the triad, right? There's three things that change your state, right? There's your language, there's your focus, and there's your physiology, right?

So he takes someone, he's like, "I need someone who's suicidal." He takes this beautiful girl. I remember, we were up in Toronto, so then he takes this girl, and he's like, "I need you to get depressed. Not a little bit depressed, clinically suicidal." She's like, "What?" He's like, "Just get there in your mind. Whatever it takes, get dark." And you see her state change, right? And he keeps pushing her, and keep pushing her, and he gets her to this point.

And anyway, it's crazy I'm watching this. And I'm kind of freaking out, because I'm watching him do this to this girl, getting her to a point... And soon, she's bawling her eyes out and everything. And he's like, "You got to get deeper. Get darker. More miserable." All this stuff. And you see him change this girl's state. And all of a sudden it stopped. And finally, it seemed like forever, finally he stops and he's like, "Everyone look at her. Watch her. Look at this." He's like, "What do you notice? What's her physiology?" You see her body, you see tears, and all this stuff. And you see her just broken.

And then, he's like, "What do you say?" And he goes through the whole triad with her. And he shows that. And he's like, "Now I'm going to show you how quickly you can shift this." To the point where it's like... Anyway, it was crazy. And then, he shifts it, and he starts taking her back through, shifting the physiology, shifting her shoulders, shifting everything, shifting her meanings, shifting focus, shifting what she's saying. And he gets this girl, within three or four minutes, to literal ecstasy, it was crazy watching this.

And you see her, where she's laughing... the opposite side of it. And I'd never seen somebody like that, the flip of emotions, how easy it was, by just shifting these three things in her. And it had such a profound impact on me.

Caleb: Is there video of that?

Russell: Not maybe the one I saw, but he does it at every UPW, he does it... I'm sure there's YouTube videos of it, as well. But if you type the triad, I think he calls it the triad or state control, things like that, you see it happen. But I saw that, and I was just like, "Oh my gosh, I never realized that we had control over that. I thought my feelings were my feelings." Like, "Here's your feeling." Like, "Okay, crap, this is the feeling I have today." And after experiencing that, I was like, "I could actually change this." I didn't know that.

And it's interesting because I think sometimes when we're depressed, or we're sad, or we have these things, I think some of us like it. I've had times before, I don't want to be happy. I'm enjoying feeling miserable. And sometimes, I sit in there because I enjoy, because we do, it's weird. It's messed up. But I felt that. I'm like, "I could change this but I don't want to." But other times, I'm like, "I have to change it." Now that I've learned that. It's crazy you can shift your state, and you can do that and show up the way you need to be.

And one practical example of how I use it a lot is, when I get home at the end of the night... And this kind of comes back to your question, I think, earlier, too. How do you do all the things? And I told you this yesterday. One of the things that I got the biggest, from being around Tony Robbins, the most impressive thing about him is when... Tony's got... As busy as any of us are, take that times 10, and that's Tony, right? He's the most busy person ever. But if you have a chance, a brief moment with Tony, where he's going to say a million things, and you have a second with him, he is the most present person I've ever met. The world dissolves around it, and it's just him and you, and there's nothing else. You can tell.

And he's just zoned in on you, and it's this magical experience. And as soon as it's done, he's just gone, he's on the next thing. But that moment, he's hyper-present. And so, for me, when I'm doing things, it's like... Like, when I get home at night, at the end of the day, park my car, I walk in, and there's the door before I come into the house. And sometimes, I'm anxious, I'm thinking about work, and thinking about stuff, I'm stressed out, the FBI sent me a letter today, Taylor Swift suing me, whatever the thing is. And I'm like, "Ah." And then, I'm like, "I'm going to walk through that door, and I can't do anything about it now. My kids are there, my wife's there." And it's just like, "Okay, I got to change my state."

And right there, before I walk through the door, I change my state. Get in the spot, and then like, "Okay, here we go." And I walk through the door, and it's like then I'm dad. And it's different, right? And so, I think it's learning those things. Because it's not... Your feelings are weird, they're going to show up in one way or the other, but the fact that you can control them, which I didn't understand or know how. But as soon as I realized that, it's just like, "I don't have to be sad, or miserable, or anxious, or whatever. I can actually change those things in a moment, if I understand how."

And that was one of the greatest gifts Tony gave me, was just understanding how to do that, and seeing it in practical application with somebody. And now, it's like I can do it myself, any time I need to, if I need to.

Matt: How do you act around Tony Robbins? Especially from the beginning to now, because you guys are close now. He probably looks at you like I look at a lot of these guys, that are Caleb's friends. I look at them like nephews, these are like... I'd do anything for them. And I know that... I can see that's how Tony starting to look at you. But take us from the very first time, because he didn't he have you come to an event, ask you a bunch of questions, take notes, and then just leave you hanging, or something like that. Tell the story, real quick.

Russell: Oh, man. Tony's so intense. I still get scared to... It's still like, "Ah." Anyway, every time I see him, it's just like... I don't know, it's weird. His presence is-

Matt: He still makes you nervous.

Russell: Oh, yeah, for sure. But the very first time... So yeah, it was... I don't know, it was probably 04:00 in the morning. I don't even know. The shorter version of the long story is they asked me to come meet him in Toronto, at UPW, same event as this whole experience happened. So I went up there, and supposed to meet him one day, and it shifts to the next day. And if you ever work with Tony, just know if he tells you he's meeting you at 10:00, it could be like four days later you actually meet. You're on Tony time. Yeah, it's-

Matt: That's just how it is.

Russell: It's crazy, yeah. Just waiting. But it's always worth it, so you just wait and be grateful when it happens. But anyway, so we finally get to the point where we meet, and I have to drive 45 minutes. This is pre-Uber, so I'm in a taxi to some weird hotel. And we get there, and then me and his assistant stand outside for another hour, waiting in the lobby. He kept looking at his phone, nervously, like, "Ah." He's like, "Okay, Mr. Robbins' ready to meet you. Let's go." So we run up the stairs, we go to this thing, we walk in this room, and there's-

Matt: And this is the first time you ever-

Russell: ...body guards everywhere. First time I ever met him, yeah. Yeah, he's like a giant, comes and gives me a huge hug. And we sit down, and he's like, "You hungry?" I'm like, "Yeah." And he was vegetarian at the time, so he's like, "Get Russell some food." And brought me out this amazing plate of... I don't even know what it was. But it was... I was like, "If I could eat like this is every night, I'd be vegetarian." Because it was amazing. It was-

Caleb: It was?

Russell: ...insane. And then, got his tape recorder out, he's like, "You okay if we record this?" I'm like, "Yeah." So he clicks record, picks out a big journal, he's like, "You're Mormon, right?" I'm like, "Yeah." He's like, "I love the Mormon people. When I was eight years old, I went to a Mormon church and they told me to keep a journal. I've kept a journal ever since. Do you mind if I take notes while we talk?"

Matt: Wow.

Russell: I'm like, "Eh, okay." So he's recording, taking notes, and then he drilled me for an hour. Just like do, do, do. Just like-

Speaker 4: And how long ago was this?

Russell: This is 13, 14 years ago.

Speaker 4: Okay.

Russell: Anyway, it was intense. And I can't remember what I was saying, I was so scared, I'm second-guessing everything I've said. And then, he's asking me numbers and stats, because we were trying to do this deal with him. And it was so scary.

Matt: So he was just drilling you with questions, and just trying to-

Russell: Oh, like crazy, yeah. I'm trying to just... Yeah, dude. Anyway, it was crazy. And then, he had to go back to UPW to speak again, so he's like, "You want to drive with me?" So I'm like, "Yeah." So go down, and jump in his Escalade together, we're in the back seat, and we're driving. And it's just crazy.

And I remember he asked me a question about this one... I won't say the person's name because the story isn't positive for the person. But he asked, he's like, "What do you think about so and so?" I'm like, "Oh, that person's really cool and really talented." He's like, "He's a very significant..." and he just talked about six human needs, earlier that day, so I was very aware of here's what the needs are, right? And he's like, "Yeah, I don't think I'd ever work with him, because he's very significance driven."

And I was like, "Oh, that make sense." And all of a sudden, I was like, "Ah, Tony is reading my soul, right now." I was like, "What drives me? I don't even know what drives me. Does he know what drives me?" Like, "Oh my gosh, am I significance driven?" I'm freaking out, like, "Ah." And all I remember is panicking, thinking, "He knows more about me than I know about me, at this point." And all these things, I'm freaking out, we're driving in his Escalade. And we get to the thing, and he's like, "I got to go inside. Thank you so much, brother. I love you." Jumps out the car, shuts the door. I'm sitting in the Escalade, like, "What just happened?"

Matt: It was that fast.

Russell: It was insane, yeah.

Matt: It was just like-

Russell: And then, the driver's like, "Do you want to get out here? Do you want me to drive you somewhere?" Like, "I don't even know where we are." We're in Toronto somewhere, that's all I know. And so, it was just the craziest experience. And then, I don't hear from him for four or five months, nothing. And I'm like-

Matt: What were you thinking? Did you think-

Russell: I was like, "He must've hated me. Maybe I failed the test. Am I significance driven?" I'm freaking out about all the things. And then, one day, I get this random... It was actually my wife and I, we were celebrating our anniversary, so we were at... It was a StomperNet event, but we took her, it was this cool thing. And she'd just gone to UPW. I sent her like three months later. So she walked on fire, and she was like... And Tony talks about Fiji there, so she was like, "Someday we should go to Fiji."

And then, we get this call from Tony, and it was like, "Hey..." Or it was Tony's assistant. Like, "Hey, Tony wants to know if you want to speak at Business Mastery in Fiji, in two weeks." I was like, "Tony Robbins..." I started saying it out loud so Collette could hear me. "Tony Robbins wants me to speak in Fiji, in two weeks?" And Collette, my cute little wife, starts jumping on the bed, like, "Say yes! Say yes!"

Caleb: Aw!

Russell: And I was like, "Yes, yes, yes. Of course, we will." And then, we're like, we've got three kids that are all toddlers at this time, and like, "Can we bring kids?" They're like, "There's no kids allowed on the resort." I'm like, "We've got three little kids." He's like, "Ah, all right. We'll figure it out." So I hang up, and we're like, "We don't have passports for the kids, we don't have anything." So anyway, it was chaos, we're freaking out.

We ended up getting them there, they literally built a fence around our... The Bula house, where's Dan at? The Bula house we were in. They built a whole fence around, so our kids wouldn't die because-

Caleb: Did they really?

Russell: ...there's cliffs off the back. Yeah, it was crazy. And then, I'm speaking to this room, and there's less than 100 people. I'm speaking, and Tony's sitting in the back of this room, I'm like-

Matt: While you're speaking.

Russell: ..."I thought he was not going to be here. This is really scary." Yeah. And he's paying attention the whole time.

Matt: Does it make you more nervous?

Russell: He introduced me, he brought me on stage, which was like... I still have the footage of that, it's really cool. He brought me on stage, which was crazy. And then, I remember, because in the thing we're talking about lead generation, I was talking about squeeze pages. And afterwards, he got on. He comes up afterwards, he's like, "Yeah, I heard squeeze pages don't work anymore. Is that true, Russell?" He's like, "People say they're kind of dead, they don't work anymore."

And this is, again, 12 years ago. And I was like, "Who told you that? They totally still work." Which is funny, because we still use them today. But he was just like, "Somebody had told me they don't work anymore." And I was like, "They..." anyway, "They work, I promise."

But anyway, and then I don't hear from him for five years, and then something else happens. It's just weird, these long extended periods of time. But then, every time, every moment, I tried... Five years later, it was a call, it was like, "Hey, Tony's doing this thing. He wants your opinion on it." So I spent like two or three hours with his team, consulting, giving feedback, as much ideas as I could. And like, "Cool, thanks." And then, nothing for two years, and then something else, and then... Little things keep happening, and happening, and can do more and more together. And then-

Matt: What did you learn from that? You think that's just-

Russell: A couple things I've learned. Number one, I'm sure you guys get this a lot, people who want to work with you, they show up and the first thing they show up with is, "All right, I got an idea how we can make a bunch of money together." Right? They always come, and want to figure out how they can take from you. And I was so scared, and grateful, I didn't ever ask Tony for anything.

The first time I asked Tony for anything ever was 12 into our relationship, after Expert Secrets book was done. I had just paid him $250,000 to speak on our stage, and just finished the interview promoting his book. And I was like, "Hey, I wrote a new book. Do you want one?"

Matt: Wow.

Russell: And he's like, "Oh." And he took it. I'm like, "Cool." And then, a week later, I'm like, "Ah, will you interview me on Facebook with this?" He's like, "Sure." And then, he did, and that video got three and a half million views on it. It was crazy, coolest thing ever. But it was 12 years before I asked him for anything. And I had-

Matt: Wow.

Russell: ...served him at as many different points as I can. I think the biggest lesson from that is that... And I get it all the time, people come to me and it's like they're trying to ask and take. It's just like... I get it, and it makes sense. But it's just like, "This game's not a short game. If you do it right, it's your life. This is your life mission." Right?

Matt: Yeah, that's good.

Russell: And so it's just understanding you're planting seeds, and you're serving, and if you do that, eventually good things will happen. And something may never happen with Tony, and that's cool. I do stuff for a lot of people, and nothing ever good ever comes from it. But hopefully something does. Sometimes it's indirect, sometimes it's not, sometimes it's just karma, or whatever you believe in. But if you just always go with the intent to serve, not to like, "What's in it for me?" It just changes everything.

And then, if you do that, if you lead with how to serve, stuff comes back to you. But if you lead with trying to get stuff, it just doesn't work. The energy's different in the whole encounter. You know what I mean?

Matt: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Russell: So I'm sure you guys have felt that with people, when they first come to you, and it's just like, "Ah."

Matt: So is there a point where you... You went to his house.

Russell: That was cool. The thing I can say is it was really cool, because most times when I'm with Tony, you're around people. In Fiji, it was fun seeing him, because he's more personal and stuff like that. But it was really special in his home, because it was him and his wife, and it was cool. It was fun just seeing him as him, like as a kid. And even my wife, like, "He seems like a kid here." He was so excited, and showing us his stuff, and all the things.

Matt: Ah, well, guys, listen.

Russell: Anyway-

Matt: A few more questions, because I mean, man, you've been at it for almost two hours, dude. I can go all night, and I know he could. But Brea Morrison, give it up for her for letting us be here. Thank you so much.

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]]> 2829 no The Roundtable of World Changers (Part 2 of 4) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-roundtable-of-world-changers-part-2-of-4 The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part two of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. So I have got to ask you, what did you think about episode number one of the World Changers Roundtable? Hopefully, you loved it. There were so many things covered in that 42 minutes. Anyway, we are moving on to the next part of this interview. As you know, this is going to be broken down into four parts because they kept me there, handcuffed to a table, until 3:00 AM. I'm just joking. They didn't really. But, the question was so intriguing, we were having so much fun, we just kept going and going until finally I was like, "I have to fly out in three hours. I need to get back to my hotel." But now we're going to go dive into the second part. This next episode is probably another 30 to 40, 45 minutes or so as well. So these are some things we'll be covering in this one, which is really fun. We talk about, number one, why my business partner, Todd Dickerson, is so amazing, and hopefully give you ideas about if you're pursuing opportunities and trying to land your dream job or partnership or whatever. Number two, we talked about personality profiling, how we actually are hiring here at ClickFunnels. We talked about where my love for learning came from. We talked about transition for me, going from an athlete to a business person and a marketer. We talked about some of the lessons I learned from Lindsey Stirling, things I was not expecting to hear from her that totally changed everything for me. We talked about people who intrigue me, my interest in health and bio hacking. We talked about is there anything that happens inside of this business that gets me as excited as what I felt in wrestling. We talked about what thing is close, but nothing actually has ever hit it. We talked about the first Two Comma Club Awards. We talked about how to upgrade your identity as you grow. We talked about the fact that you have to cycle and fail and rebuild in your businesses. We talked about the launch of ClickFunnels and how it wasn't just the fact that I was a genius, because I wasn't. There are so many things. Talking about the grace of God and how it tied into the launch of ClickFunnels. We talked about some of my early products, like Zip Brander and Forum Fortunes. We talked about my Christmas Grinch sale, which was the very first big sale, big launch I ever did, to my little tiny list that made enough money to cover Christmas for my wife and I when we were first getting started. We talked about becoming worthy. We talked about list building, how it's better than buying ads, and a whole bunch of other things. It's amazing, this could be 40 courses all wrapped into one super podcast episode. So if you liked the last episode, I think you're going to love this one as well. And I've got two more after this, coming back, going deeper into this conversation with the Roundtable of World Changers. So, that said, we're going to cue the theme song. When we come back, we'll dive right into the second section here of the interview. Matt Maddix: Dave and Todd, I mean, just wow. Those dudes are like... But what about those guys? Russell: So here's Todd's story. So the real long story short, I bought some software, it was coding Ruby on Rails, didn't know that. Bought this company with the last... I didn't have the money. So I borrowed money, bought this company, coded on some platform we didn't know, and I was like, "Screw it," right? And I tried to hire people to fix it, nobody could fix this platform until finally I was leaving the office one day. I literally emailed the people saying, "Turn off the servers." We lost all of our money to this company. They shut it down. And I'm walking out of the office and I had this impression of like, "There could be someone on your email list who knows Ruby on Rails." I was like, "That's weird. I had a bunch of internet marketing nerds. There's no one that's like, 'Ruby on Rails...'" Anyway. It was starting with the impression from God, I stopped, turned back around, set the computer to open back up, sent an email to my list. "If you know Ruby on Rails, I'm looking for a partner. I bought a software company and it's not working. Please send me a message." Send. Matt: And that's all you said? Russell: Yeah. And lo and behold, three years earlier, Todd bought some random thing from me, happened to be on my email list. He built the website three or four years earlier that was making six figures a year on autopilot. Hadn't worked in four years. Just hanging out relaxing with his wife and his daughter. And an email comes in and it says, "If you know Ruby on Rails, I'm looking for a partner." He's like, "I know Ruby on Rails. I can be Russell's partner." Emails me back. And at first I see him and his beautiful wife and I'm like, "There's no way he's a programmer. There's no way." That was literally my thought. But he was the only person that responded back so I was like, "Okay, well, here's the login to the site. Fix it. I don't know what to do. I'm not a coder." I went to bed, woke up the next morning. He's like, "Cool, I fixed the site. Plus I found this, this, and this. And I changed this. And I moved these things,", and all of this stuff. He's like, "It's working now. Do you have anything else you want to do together?" I'm like, "Huh." And so I give him another project, another project. And for an entire year Todd and I worked together, and never once did he ever ask me for money, ever. Matt: Wow. Russell: Not a penny. And I remember he started finding Boise to work on a project together ... Matt: You're telling me he worked for you for an entire year? Russell: For free. More than a year. Caleb Maddix: Why was that? Russell: I don't know. I found out later. He'd gone to Robert Kiyosaki at this event and he said, "Find someone who's doing what you want to do and work for them for free." So he told me that years later. I didn't know that. Matt: Todd, if you're watching dude. I love you man. You're legit. Russell: And so he kept coming and he started coming to Boise and we started becoming friends. The smartest developer I've ever met. Literally the smartest person I've ever met. I'll go that far. Just genius. And he'd come out to Boise and we'd work on projects and ideas. We tried to launch a couple of things. None of them really worked. And we were just trying stuff. He was just always there, always serving, always doing stuff. And one day were in Boise and I was looking over his shoulder cause we're looking at stuff and I saw his email. And there's all these emails from some recruiting site or something. I was like, "What's that?" He's like, "Oh, it's people recruiting me for a Ruby job." And I was like, "Do you get a lot of those?" And he's like, "I get three or for a day." I'm like, "Really? Are they good offers?" He's like, "I don't know. Let's check it out." He opened it up and the first one was like $400,000 a year starting salary. I'm like, "What?" The next one is $350,000. The next was 5 ... Insane things. I'm like, "Why don't you do that?" He's like, "I don't want to work for them. I want to be your partner man." I'm like, "What?" And then I all of a sudden had this realization that I hadn't paid him in a year. We didn't have much money at the time, we're still at the backside of a business failure when we met. I'm like, "I can pay you maybe $50,000 a year. Can I pay you that?" He's like, "Whatever." So I told our little bookkeeper, "Pay Todd $50,000 a year." And they're like, "Okay." So he did that and next year we're paying $50,000 a year. We're doing stuff and we have more things. Started to get a little success here and there. Making more money. Back in Boise again. And I'm like, "Can I pay you some more?" And he's like, "Whatever." Matt: So he wasn't ever just asking? Russell: Never in his life has he asked me for money. Ever. So we bumped it up to $100,000 a year because that's what we got, the year before that, after a year or two working together. And then, it was crazy, the day Leadpages got the first round of funding for $5,000,000, the same day Todd was flying to Boise. And he gets the email. It's east coast so he's two hours ahead. He's awake and on the plane, he sees the email, forwards it to me, and then jumps in the plane. He's flying for four hours. I wake up. I see the email and I was like, "Leadpages? Got 5 ..." I was like, we built landing page software in the past. I was perplexed and angry. And then Todd lands. And Todd, he's a little guy, he comes into the office all angry. He's like, "Leadpages got 5 million!" He's like, "I can build Leadpages tonight. Do you want to build lead pages?" I'm like, "Yeah. Let's compete with Leadpages." He's like, "All right." Matt: No way. Dude. I love this. Russell: This is like angry Todd. I love angry Todd. I like all Todds, but angry Todd is the best Todd. Matt: Is it? Okay. Russell: He's just pissed because he's like, "I can build this tonight. Everything thing they got we can have done tonight." So we're getting all ready. What should we call it and everything. And then he's like, "Wait, we're building this. You want to add anything else to it?" And I was like, "Oh. Yeah. What if it did this? And what if it did this?" And we spent a week in front of a white board saying, "What if it did?", and we mapped out ClickFunnels. Matt: So you're talking about a week where you guys just locked in and you were just having fun. Just doodling and whatever. Russell: Yeah. He's like, "Oh, I can do that. We can do that." We're brainstorming all sorts of stuff so we map the whole thing out. Matt: Did you know at that moment you were onto something big? At that moment right there, when you guys were like ... Or was it just still like ... Russell: All lot of people have tried something like that. I tried before other people tried. No one had done it. So I was kind of skeptical but Todd's like, "I can do this. This is easy." I'm like, "Okay because I tried it ..." He's like, "No dude, I can do it. This is easy." So I was, excuse me, optimistically hopeful because he's a genius but I was also nervous. But anyways, we map it out and then we bought Clickpros.com. I wanted to call it ClickFusion because I own ClickFusion, but we'd had three failed businesses called ClickFusion. All of them failed and Todd was like, "No. It's bad karma. We can't." I'm like, "But the logo is so cool dude." Matt: I love it. You love the logo. Russell: And he's like, "No, we can't." He's like, "It's got a jinx on it or something. We can't do that. You have to come up with a different name." I was like, "But ClickFusion is the coolest name ever." So we're trying things. Click everything and then ClickFunnels. We're like, "Ah." That was the thing. We're so excited Matt: Who first said it? Do you remember? The words ClickFunnels. Caleb: It's almost like God saying, "Let there be light." Russell: I would assume it was me but I'm not positive. I'll have to ask Todd on that one. Caleb: Well, when you said it, was it instant? Like fire? Russell: It was insane, it was available. Matt: Oh, you know that feeling, right? Checking domains. You're like… chills. Russell: How has no one thought of this before? And so we got it and I remember I was driving him to the airport at the end of the week to take him back home. And we got to the airport. Boise airport, It's a small airport. So we pull up to the thing to get out and you can tell he's probably nervous waiting. And before we get out of the car he's like, "I really want to do this man. I'm excited." I'm like, "Me too. Me too." He's like, "I don't want to do this like your employee though. I want to do it as your partner." And in that moment, I was just like all the fear of ... I'd tried partners in the past. It hadn't worked. All this stuff and all the everything. And it was just this weird thing of just all the emotions were hitting me as he sat in the car, about to get out the car. I have 15, 20 seconds before he's going to to go. I was just thinking about him. I was like, he's never asked me for money. He's never done anything. He's served. He's given everything. I was just looking at him. I was like, "All right let's do it." He's like, "Cool." And he got out of the car and he's gone. Matt: Wait a minute. So at that moment? Is was that quick? Russell: That was it. Matt: It was a gut feeling that you just knew. That he was ... Russell: It was him. Yeah. And I was literally... I said this on stage at Funnel hacking live, outside of marrying my wife, it was the greatest decision I ever made. Matt: Yeah. I remember you saying that with tears. Russell: Yeah. Matt: Why though? I'm curious because it's not just ClickFunnels. Russell: He's amazing. If you look at our personality profiles, it's fascinating. We have the same personality profiles. The Myers-Briggs. Except for one letter's different. Where I'm a feeler he's a thinker. And it's been magical as a partnership because we both have so much respect for each other that we don't try to fight each other. And it's very much like if I wanted to do something, I'm like, "This is what I want to do. This what I'm feeling. What do you think?" And he'll come back and be like, "Well, I think this." And so I come up from feeling instead of thinking and it's really cool. So sometimes his thinking will trump my feeling. And I'm like, "You're actually right. Let's not do that." Or vice versa. Where he's like, "I'm thinking this." And I'm like, "I don't know why but I feel this." And he'll be like, "Okay." He respects that. We just have such mutual respect that we've never been in a fight. We've never argued. We've never had problems. It's been amazing. Matt: Wow. Russell: And he's similar to like we talk about with Dan. He went back home after us white boarding that, sat in his basement for five or six months and built ClickFunnels by himself. Caleb: Really just by himself? Russell: 100% by himself. Caleb: No other team. No other dev? Russell: It was just him. And the right before we launched, we brought in another partner, Dylan, who built the front-end editor and did a lot of the UI. And so then it was those two as we got closer and closer to the launch. And then for the next year it was just those two that did everything. And then after a year, we started bringing in other developers. But it was 100% Todd. Matt: Wow. Russell: He's amazing. In all aspects. You know you have friends you think they know everything about everything. That's like Todd except he actually knows everything about everything. You ask him anything and he's just like ... I don't know how he does it. And I'll always fact check him, like, "Oh my gosh. He's right again." He's brilliant. It's amazing. Matt: So for those of us who have partners or are maybe going into partnership, what's your best advice? And what do you feel like he does right that other partners don't do? Russell: I think the hardest thing with partners is typically we want to partner with someone who is just like us. We did a podcast most recently. Dean, Tony and I, right? We've done two partnerships. Both partnerships made it through the launch and they stopped. Made it through the launch and stopped. The podcast was like, "Why?" I love Dean. I love Tony. They're amazing. The problem is that me and Dean had the exact same skill set. Matt: Oh. Russell: And so the problem is that both of us are right. We both understand it right, but we do it differently. And so it's like You have two people, and so typically you want to partner with those people who are like you. You're like, "Oh, we think the same. We should be partners." But that's not necessarily the right thing because then you've got two alphas with the same skillset, and someone has to win and someone has to lose. And it's hard. Whereas me and Todd, we have different skill sets. There is never a winner or a loser. We can both win because different skill sets, both the same mission. It's really easy. So I think the biggest thing is you're trying to find the yin yang. You're not trying to find someone who thinks like you or acts like you. In fact, this is true in most hiring processes as well. I used to have people like, "Send me a video if you want this job." Right? So I get these videos, and the people that I wanted to hire were the people like me. I'm like, "This person's awesome. They think like me. They're a genius. They're amazing." You'll hire them, and within a week I'm like, "I hate this person." It's horrible. So we started shifting the way we do our hiring based on personality profiling instead. DISC profile drives most of my own personal hiring so I know that I'm a high D, high I, high S. No C at all. Right? And so the people I need to hire around me are high S, high C. The problem is the people I who I watched their videos and I'm pumped, they're high D, high I. So I'm like, "Yeah. These people are awesome. They're charismatic. I'm going to love them. They're drivers, they're awesome. Worst employees ever. Matt: Right. Russell: Right? So when people send us this profile, first I find the right profile and then from there I do interviews. Because if I interview ahead of time I get sold by the people who sell and then they're horrible employees. And so I make sure they're high S high C, because I know that if I talk to high S high C, I'm going to be kind of bummed out. Like, "Oh, I don't know if this is the kind of person that I'm going to jive with." But they're the best people to surround myself with because I'm such a high D high S. I'm a creator. I'm throwing things up in the air and I need people who are S and C, who are faithful finishers, who are going to take the things, capture them, and make sure that it's amazing. Matt: Do you feel like businesses and entrepreneurs are making a mistake by not having their employees and their team take these tests? Russell: 100%. I have a new company we're launching all about personality profiling because I'm such a big believer in it. Matt: Really? Tell me why. Top three reasons. Russell: It's in all things in life. If you're going to be a partner. If you're going to date someone. Understanding who they are is such a big part of it. Right? Because we think everyone sees the world the same way we see it and it is not true at all. The way you see it, the way we all see is so different and so if we don't understand that at a deep level, then I get upset by what you do and at what everyone's doing because it's like, "Don't you see what I see?" And the reality is no they don't. So if you start understanding people better ... In fact, the software can be called Understand About Me. It's a place you go and you take all the personality profiling and it gives you a page that can show somebody this is me. So in five seconds I can understand you perfectly they're like, "Oh, now I know how to work with you." Because I understand what you are, what your beliefs are, what your values, all the things I need to know about you, I can find it really quickly. Where normally you're going to go years with somebody before you understand them. I can look at a thing and get pretty dang close in a minute. Matt: Wow. Russell: Now I know hot interact with you and spend time with you and work with you. Things like that. Caleb: Question. Where does your love to learn come from? Because one of the things I noticed from being around you, it's always like yeah, so I had this moment where I geeked on this and I geeked out on this. It was health and suppliments, and marketing and personality types. There's all these different things you geek out on. Have you always been that way? Is it like you geek out on marketing, you saw the rewards from it, and you're like, "Wow, what if this goes into other areas?" Where does that come from? Russell: Yeah, I didn't always have my life. In fact, I had a fascinating conversation with Tom Bilyeu about this, because when I was growing up in high school I always thought I was a dumb kid. I thought I was an athlete, so I focused there. I thought I was an athlete, so I was a wrestler, that was my identity, that was where I focused at. I thought I was dumb. Because of that, straight C student high school and college, my cumulative GPA graduating from college was 2.3. Straight C's and one B maybe somewhere in there, right? Because I was a dumb kid. When I got done I ended my wrestling career, so I stopped being an athlete, and I was like, "Oh crap." I started to learn this business stuff and I don't like to read. I'm a dumb kid. What do I do? It was fascinating. Tom told me, because I had this epiphany, I'm not actually dumb. He's like, "Actually, the reality is you probably really were dumb. But then you changed, right?" So for me it was like I shifted. It was fascinating. Do you remember the Funnel Hacking Live where we had Lindsay Stirling perform? One of my favorite parts of that, she did a whole performance. If you guys don't know, Lindsay does violin dancing stuff, and afterwards I had a Q and A with her afterwards. I had this question I was so pumped to ask. I was waiting for her just to like, the question is, she was on America's Got Talent, and I think she took 7th place. When she got kicked off, Pierce Bronson or whatever said, "You've got no talent. You're no good." Whatever, right? So I was like, do you remember that time when he said that? What I thought she was going to say was, "Yeah, I proved him wrong. Yeah." I was like, "What did you feel after that?" She's like, "Yeah, I got home and I realized he was right. I wasn't very good. So I went back and I started practicing and I started working harder and eventually I became good enough." It was like, oh my gosh. I got chills when I was saying it again. Matt: Yeah. Russell: I remember when Tom said it to me, he was like, "You probably were dumb." I was like, "I was." Because I wasn't reading things. So with marketing that was the first thing for some reason that caught my attention, that got me excited, right? And then if you look at my DISC profile, ROI is my highest value. I have to see ROI in something or I don't want to do it. So when I saw an ROI on this reading, I was like, "Oh my gosh. I read a book, I got one little sentence, changed a color, made more money. Oh my gosh." That is where it started, 100%. I started learning that and I started getting obsessed with those things. As this business grew for me I started being more, I always joke that crazy people got attracted to me, right? The best health people, the best fitness people, the best in every market kind of came into our world somehow. So I started getting to meet all these people. When you're around someone who's the best in the world at the thing, and they start talking about the thing, you can't help but be like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." Right? You zone in on that. So whenever I meet someone that's amazing and I have a chance to talk to them like this I just geek out. Like when I met your dad the first time with you guys. That's when I bought your parenting course and everything. I was just like, I saw you and I saw him and I was like, "I want that." So I started going down that rabbit hole, right? I met Anthony DiClementi, I was like, "I love this guy. I have respect for him, I love him." Every time he talks about anything, he fascinates me, when he talks about something it fascinates me. I have to look down those things, right? When people fascinate me, the things that fascinate them start fascinating me and that's when I kind of go down those rabbit holes. This person is so intriguing and fascinating. What makes them that way? What are they doing. It's interesting. I'm not a good question asker. You guys are so good at question askers. I've never been good at asking questions, but I'm really good at watching what people do and then seeing it and trying to go down the rabbit hole. What are they doing, why are they doing it, that kind of thing. Caleb: He’s a true master in it. You can just tell. What are some things you want to take the time to geek out on? I'm sure you see something and you're like I want to get on that but it's not a priority, I've got to do this. What are some things, if I had a week or two? Russell: Just free time with nothing else involved? Caleb: What's the next thing you're going to geek out on? Russell: Oh. I would say every probably three years I get re-excited about SEO, for some reason. I start going down that path again, because I love it. There's times in my business when that was the focused. It's not now at all, but I went through a couple ... Brian Dean’s a real cool SEO guy, couple guys… I started dabbing my toe in again and I'm like, I just want to get back into it so bad. Right now SEO is actually our number 11 lead source as of today in ClickFunnels, which is amazing. So we handed SEO the first four or five years, now we're focused on it again. It's doing really well for us. I want to go deep there because I like that. Anyway, I haven't had a chance to do that. Any of the health stuff really, really fascinates me. Matt: Why? I'm curious. Why are you drawn to that so much? The health stuff. Russell: Because I've seen with myself ... My history is I got in wrestling, at the PAC 10 tournament was my last actual wrestling match. My wife was giving herself fertility shots in the stomach during PAC 10 so the next month se was pregnant. So I got done wrestling, got done competing, got done running, got done lifting. All my athletic career ended, and then my wife got pregnant. She's eating for three kids, and I'm pumped because I don't have to work out right now, she's hungry, I'm hungry, we're eating. We just kept eating and eating. So over the next seven to eight months my wife gained like 60 pounds, I gained like 60 pounds. We were doing it together so who cared, it was amazing. Then one day she has two babies and she loses like 45 pounds and I'm like, oh crap. I'm stuck here. Where did you go? This for me? Matt: Yeah. Russell: Thank you. Then at that time the business was starting and I was stressed out trying to figure it out and I didn't get healthy again. I just was in that state of being 65 pounds heavier for years. But I didn't know the difference, I didn't know that I felt differently, because I'd never been in a spot where I spent eight hours sitting behind a computer, so I didn't know what good felt like or bad felt like. I knew if I tried to wrestle I'd puke, so I was like I don't feel like I'm an athlete. I just felt normal, I thought. Eight years in I was like, I don't know, I looked at myself in the mirror and I was like, "Oh, what happened to you?" You know what I mean? I'm sure hopefully everybody's had a chance. I was like, huh. It was hard because in my head I knew how to work out, I knew how to train, I knew these things. Finally I was like, "I need to get a trainer." So I got a trainer for the first time. I'd never really done that before. Started going, and got me from I don't even know, 27, 28% body fat down to 12% in a matter of seven or eight months. I looked better, I felt better, but what's crazy is I could work twice as hard and twice as long. I wasn't tired. I was like, "I can keep going. My brain's on fire. This is amazing." Matt: Wow. Just from the ... Russell: I had no idea until I lost all the weight. All of a sudden it was just like, I can do so much more. I think, when I first met Anthony DiClementi the first time I was like, this is my problem right now. I am at work all day slaying dragons, doing all these things, I have this energy. I get home at night and my two little twin boys are there, and my little daughter, and I'm spent and I have no energy. How do I still be a present dad and how do I have these things? The next tier was the bio hacking stuff. How do you do these things? How do you increase energy? There's so many ways to do that, from light therapy to supplements to sleeping to sound to breath, all these crazy things that seem stupid. The first time Anthony's like, "We're going to do breath work." I'm like, "We're going to breathe? That's your bio hack? We're going to breathe together?" He's like, "Yeah, it's going to be amazing." I'm like super annoyed. What's the ROI on this, I've got to get back to work. So he sat me down in our gym. You've been in our wrestling room. He sat me down and he's like, "You have to sit because if you're standing you'll hit your head and you'll die." I'm like, what are you talking about? He sits me down and we do these breathing exercises where he's yelling at us and screaming. All this stuff is happening. If anyone's ever done deep breath work it's nuts. We're doing this thing where we're supposed to do this heavy, heavy breath work until he's like, what's going to happen is the world is going to ... Has anybody done jiu-jitsu here? Been tapped out before? Matt: Yeah. Russell: So you get choked out. What will happen, the carotid artery gets choked and the world starts shrinking like this. If you take pressure off it, it comes back to life. If you don't, it goes darker and darker until it disappears and you're gone, right? If you've never been choked out, that's what happens. It's a really fun experience. But you have the minute when you see it shrinking around you and then it's gone, right? He told me that's what's going to happen. You're going to breathe so much that the world around you is going to start shrinking. If you don't stop you're going to pass out. So we go all the way to where it starts shrinking, stops, and then when you hit that point you let me know and then you hold your breath for as long as you can. He's like, "How long can you hold your breath for?" I'm like, "Maybe a minute." He's like, "You'll do it for at least five." I was like, there's no way. So he says sit down, we're doing this breath thing, we're going like crazy and sure enough the walls start doing weird stuff. I feel like I'm on drugs. I'm sweating like crazy. We keep doing it. He's yelling at me. All of a sudden the world starts closing around me, I'm like, "What is happening?" And then he stops and is like, "Hold your breath." He starts the clock. I'm sitting here holding my breath forever, looking around. We had three or four of us guys all doing it at the same time. I'm freaking out. And then it starts getting quieter, things are slowing down, we're sitting there and then he's like let some of the pressure out but don't breathe in. Let pressure out, pressure out, pressure out, keep doing that, and it gets done and the stop clock is over five minutes. I'm just like, I just held my breath for five minutes. Matt: And you didn't even know it. Russell: Insane. And then the rest of the day we were on fire. It was just like, whoa. Right? We brought a cryo-sauna at our house and we go freeze in the cryo-sauna and the rest of the day you just feel ... That's the thing I love now, these little weird things. Light therapy, breathing, weird things that just seem stupid. You do it and you can go longer, you can think better, you can do stuff. All those things just get me so excited. Anthony's fun because he randomly will just ship me weird stuff in the mail. Just the weirdest things. It makes my wife so mad. It just shows up. There's a big old box. She's like, what's this from? I'm like, I'm hoping it's from Anthony, it's going to be amazing. Just weird things. Tons of stuff. I love that kind of stuff because the ROI on it is crazy. They're always these weird things. I have this headband someone sent me. You put this headband on, you put an app on and you start working and it just makes you not tired, makes you focused. These weird things. How does this work? I don't know. And they're like oh, it works because the waves over here sync your brain and change your brain waves and the creative state and all these things. I mean, I don't know how it works but I just wrote two chapters. Caleb: Do you do breath work every day? Russell: No, because it's so intense. If I had a coach who could walk me through it. I have a recording of Anthony doing it and I almost dread it because I know how hard it is. By the time you're done you're sweating. Caleb: I've got to get that recording. Russell: I'll get it to you. By the time you're sweating, you're like what just happened? I just breathed for five minutes. It's weird. Anyway, I would love to understand it on a deeper level but I don't understand a lot of the things now. Some of them I've gone deep on, but a lot of them I do without knowing why. I hate it because my wife will be like, "What's this do?" And I'm like, I don't know. Matt: Just love it. Russell: One of my buddies, Preston Eli, he wrote this blog post, he called it the Warriornaire Workout. In there he explains part of his morning workout. He's like, why do I do it? He's like, because Tony Robins does, and I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence. That quote goes to my head all the time. People ask me, why do you do that? I'm like, because I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence, that's it. I'm like, I don't know the reason why, Tony says so, therefore I will do it. I would like to understand it at a deeper level so I have a better response than I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. But that's a pretty good reason. Anyway. Matt: Real quick, does anybody else want to throw in a question for Russell? Anybody else here live with us? Caleb: Let me ask one more real fast. Because I want to. I want to ask this. We were just having sushi, I was asking you, what are some of the favorite periods of your life? One of them you said was wrestling, which I found funny because by far one of my favorite periods is baseball, which people wouldn't expect because obviously I've been on stage and all this other stuff and that should take the cake. But those moments when you're just on the field, you're in the zone, there's nothing better. Where, with what you get to do now, whether it's being live on a webinar or being on stage or whatever it is, where do you get the same feeling of wrestling? Do you know what I mean? You know, the feeling in your chest? Russell: Today while we were in line at the grocery store I talked to your dad about this. I said that the best feelings I ever had in my life were from wrestling. The feeling of winning a hard match that I wasn't supposed to win and getting your hand raised, I never felt something like that, that felt as good as that, ever. I've been searching in business to find that, and I've never found it. Speaker 3: Do you feel like sports is like business in any sense? Matt: Good question. Russell: For sure, yeah. There's a lot, for sure. What I was going to say is the closest I've ever gotten to feeling that is when you serve at an event and you see a table rush and you see not only people where they get the a-ha, but enough of an a-ha where it gets them to get up and to move. That's the closest I've ever felt to that. It's not as good, but it's the closest I've ever felt to that. Which is why I love doing the big things. I get a glimpse of that. Caleb: How close? Scale of one to 10. Wrestling's a 10. Where does that rank? Russell: If wrestling's a 10, I'd say it's about an eight. In fact it's interesting because when I first started in business I was racing for that, trying to find it, trying to find it, trying to find it. It took me years before I was like ... Matt: Is it disappointing? Russell: For sure, yeah. We launch today and make a million dollars and it's like, huh. That sucked. What else have we got. Give me something else. Matt: Exactly. Russell: The money goal is always what I thought was going to be the thing, and those always were just like, huh. In fact, literally one of the main reasons I did the Two Comma Club Awards, for me I need, maybe it's just from a decade of my life someone grabbing my hand and raising it. I was like, entrepreneurs need that. No one raises our hands. Two Comma Club Awards, for me, is me lifting their hands like you did it. I needed that, they need that. That's one of the main reasons I did that, because that's the equivalent of that. Anyway. Matt: How many millionaires have you created? Russell: This year we passed 1,000 people that won the two comma club award. We're over 120. Matt: How does it feel to say that? To say it? You know how sometimes it's like so many people that have passion or goals or huge dreams and visions, rarely do they really celebrate what's happening on the journey. Do you find yourself ever getting where your vision is so big and your passion is so deep that even saying things like there's 1,000 millionaires. Dude, that's huge. Man, 1,000 people that are millionaires because of you. Russell: I think the first time I really got that, probably the most impactful time, was the very first Funnel Hacking live that we gave away Two Comma Club Awards. It was the third Funnel Hacking live. It was a couple of months before that we had the idea of a Two Comma Club and an award, talking about that. I legitimately didn't know. I wonder if anyone in ClickFunnels has actually made a million dollars. I don't even know. So Dave went back and the database guys went through everything and I remember he came back and was like, there's 79 people right now that made a million dollars. I was just like, are you serious? Matt: Was it a boost of confidence? What did it do for you? Russell: It was one of those things, looking back on me doing these events where two people showed up and nobody showed up, hardly anybody, where I was so excited about this? I was like, how come nobody cares? To now it was like, this is actually, I've talked about this long enough people are believing it and now they're doing it. You start seeing it, and there's the fruits of it. In my mind I was like a million bucks, even then, ClickFunnel was new, I was like a million dollars is hard. Most of my friends I knew were like made somewhere near a million dollars. There were people who have been in this business for a long time. A million bucks is a big deal. That was most people's goal still. The fact that 79 people had done it, that was just weird to me. I think that was the biggest one, the realization that just like, oh my gosh. It's not just a theory and I think it works, it's working. It's working at a scale that was unfathomable to me at the time. 79 people. To go to 200 and then 500 and then 1,000 is crazy. Matt: What was your question, buddy? Speaker 4: You're talking about how at each level of success you hit, some of your mentors hit that ceiling, right? Because of the posturing, right? So ultimately I feel like when you get to a new level of success it requires you to upgrade your identity, your self image. What have you found is the number one routine, what's your process for upgrading the identity, upgrading your self image? Because I think that's so important because it can either hold you back and have you self sabotage and not take action and go after what you want, or it's going to be the thing that keeps you at that level and continues to propel you forward. What's kept you ... Russell: That's good. It's weaved through everything, right? The one that's the most obvious external, especially in our world, because you see marketers, most people when they first start selling whatever it is they're selling they're bragging about themselves. Here's my ad, here's my name. It's all about them, that's the first tier of it. And then the second tier, when they start having the realization, I feel like is when they stop talking about themselves and start talking about the people they've helped. Speaker 4: Mm. Russell: You see externally. You don't hear me talking about how much money I make. I'm not like, oh, check out what I got. I talk about all the other people. It's like, that's next year, is that. And then for me the third tier now, which has been really cool, is talking about Lady Boss, right? The success story isn't Kailin, it's Kailin's customers, right? So it's like that next tier. What you're talking about is like the external version of that. There's a lot of internal things that you've got to deal with, but you'll notice it shifting in people when you look at just their messaging and what they're saying. From the way they podcast, they video, they market, their ads and everything, it's the shift of it's not about me, it's about them. It's not even about them, that's the external version of it. Internally I think it's really, it's what we talked about, I can't remember why, but we brought up yesterday or today I had this really successful guy I met one time who the first time we met he was like tell me your story. So I was telling him the wrestle posturing story about how great I was. He was like, no. Tell me about the time you failed. So I was like, well, I'm in the middle of one right now. So I told him let me tell you. I told this whole thing. I remember afterwards I was so embarrassed. He's going to think I'm an idiot. You know, that fear? He was like, good, you cycled. I was like, what? He was like, I will not work with entrepreneurs who haven't cycled at least once. Because if they haven't then they still believe their own bio, right? I think that's the biggest thing, the internal version is that. The first time around, before you cycle, you think it's all you. I know for me it was. I remember doing this the first time, I'm like, I am a genius. I'm the smartest guy in the world. And then when it collapsed I was like, oh, there's a lot of things outside my control. This is not me. There is a team, there's God, there's all these other things that are making this possible. There's a scripture, I can't remember where it's at, it's the Bible, Book of Mormon, but it says you can either be humble or God will humble ... Ah, I'm misquoting it by far. But it's like God will humble people. You can be humble or he will humble you. So it's like, looking at that, I'm like round two I'm going to be a humble person because I don't want to be humbled again, right? Matt: I still feel it. Russell: This is not me. I understand, I look around now and it's 100% like there's no way I would be where I am right now if Dan Usher didn't make videos the way he does. There's no way I'd be here right now if Todd Dickerson could not code software the way he does. There's no way, all these things are so many people. Matt: You're so right. Russell: Then there's so many success stories that inside of it there's just so many people. And then there's the grace of God. I just look at the timeline of when ClickFunnels came into the market. I've now got funnels for a decade, nobody cared. Then all these things were happening, we started having the idea for ClickFunnels, started building it, we're creating it, and then literally we go to traffic and conversion, Todd's halfway done building ClickFunnels, and Ryan Deiss stands on stage in the biggest event at the time and he spends the entire four days talking about funnels. Talking about how funnels are the greatest thing. Everybody's like, what's a funnel? They're all taking notes. Me and Todd are like, does he know we're building? He's talking about funnels. He's talking about funnels like crazy. And then the next day everyone gets home from traffic and conversion and everybody that day, the next day 8,000 funnel consultants pop up. Everybody's a funnel consultant. Everyone is on Facebook talking about funnel consultants and teaching funnels and all this stuff. We're like, oh my gosh. Todd, get this software done, everybody's talking about funnels right now. So he's coding like crazy, all this stuff is coming around, all of a sudden everyone's like, millions of funnel consultants, everyone's doing it, and all of a sudden we're like, hey, we created this thing called ClickFunnels, here it is. All of a sudden all of the consultants and all the people and everyone came and we were the only platform. I look at that, as smart as I think I am, there is so much grace and timing. If I'd launched a year earlier, a year later, it would not have hit the way it did. 100% it was the timing of all these things that have to happen. If it wasn't for that ... I can act like I'm smart, I'm a genius, but man, there's so much divinity that came into all the things. There's no way it could happen without that. Anyway, just understanding those things. Matt: What did you learn when you were cycling? Russell: So many lessons. Russell, you are not that good looking. Or cool. Or anything. Matt: It's basically not about you, right? Yeah, I feel that. So what was hardest? What were the tough lessons? Caleb: How many times did you cycle? Russell: Two big ones for sure. Matt: Really? Do you mind sharing? Russell: Yeah, the first time was after I was trying to figure this thing out. I remember one of my buddies was like, you're making money online? I'm like, yeah. He's like, that's cool. I'm like, do you want a job? He's like, what? I'm like, you're the first person I know who's interested. I'll pay you to come hang out with me. He's like, all right. So I hired my friend. He's like, I have some friends too. I'm like, okay. So I start hiring all these people because I want someone to talk to. Anyway, it was really bad. I ended up having a whole bunch of employees nobody knew how to do anything. I didn't know how to train anybody. I was hiding in the room trying to make money to pay payroll while they're standing outside like, do you want us to do anything? I'm like, don't talk to me, I've got to make money to pay your payroll. They're like, we can help. I'm like, I don't have time to explain anything to you. It was horrible. I built it up to the point where it was just like, I was launching a new thing as fast as we could just to pay payroll. As an entrepreneur, you kill something you get to eat, right? It's like the greatest thing in the world. Employees, they want to get paid every two weeks whether they killed anything or not. I did not realize that until they were like we need money and I'm like, but we haven't made any money. They're like you have to pay me. I'm like, what? I'm so confused. Like, okay. Anyway, it had grown and we didn't have a model, sustainable. Speaker 3: You just launched stuff to see if it works? Russell: Yeah. When I was by myself it was like, I had an idea today, let's try it. You launch it, it makes some money, sweet. And then it was like, I made 20, 30 grand. It was my wife and I, so it was like, that lasts nine months. You know? Caleb: What did you sell? Obviously I know the potato gun backstory. You said I talked about funnels for like a decade before that. What were you selling during that decade leading up to ClickFunnels? I know it's an inordinate amount of stuff. Is there anything not even close to funnels, like something ... Russell: Yeah. The very first, pre-potato guns, my very first big idea was ... Back then what everyone was doing, you know who Yanik Silver is. Yanik would write a book and then he would sell the resale rights to the books. Someone else would buy it and they could sell it. I remember I got online, I saw these books, I bought a book from Yanik and I'm like, I can sell this. I bought a book from somebody else. I was buying all these eBooks I could sell. But then inside the books they would have links back to all their sites. I'd sell the book and I was like, I made 10 bucks selling the book. And then inside the book Yanik is selling his thousand dollar course and seminars and things. They make all this money. I'm like, I got 10 bucks. He made like $1,000 off of me selling his book. I remember being mad. I was like I wish there was a way I could brand this ebook so that before somebody opens it and sees his ad they'd see my ad. That was the first idea I ever had, ever. So my first product was called Zip Brander, it was this little thing that would take an ebook and it would brand it. You open it up and it popped up an ad. You see the ad and you click a button and it would take you inside the ebook. It was my first thing. We launched that and I sold 20 or 30 copies of it. But that was the first money I ever made, it was amazing. I had a customer list, I was like this is amazing. And then the way I was selling those, I was going to forums. This is pre-Facebook, so all you little kids, before Facebook, before MySpace, before Friendster, we used to go to these things called forums. They were these things where people would talk all day. So we'd go to these forums. One of the rules in the forums is you could comment all you wanted but you could have a signature file. At the end you could have like, Russel Brunson, check out my new software Zip Brander. I'd go to these forums and I would just spend eight hours a day answering questions and asking questions and everything. People see my ad on every little thing. My footer was on everything. That's how I was selling Zip Brander initially. I was in 50 forums posting like crazy but I couldn't keep up with it. I was like, man, if I could create a software that would manage this whole thing, that would be amazing. So my second product is called Forum Fortunes. It was this little software that would manage your posting on every single forum. You post and you could see if someone responded back on Forum 49 it would pop up and you're like, oh, you can go find it and go back and comment and keep the discussion. I made it for myself and then we started selling that. We sold more of those because I now had a little customer base here and went bigger. After that it was the next. It was always what's the next thing. That's kind of how it started back in the days, little tools and things like that. Speaker 3: How do you know when you're shooting all these bullets, how do you know when you shoot a cannonball? Matt: Good question. Russell: The thing about it initially, I had been married, I was making zero dollars a year as a wrestler, so for me to make $600 in a month, that was a cannonball. That was insane. I thought I was the coolest kid in the world. $600 was insane. So I did four or five little things. I remember it was Christmastime and I remember my wife wanted to buy a couch and it was a $2,000 couch. I was just like, oh, I can't afford that. I don't have a job. I'm getting sick to my stomach. I had this idea, what if I do a sell and just sell a whole bunch of crap that we had. I had a bunch of eBooks I bought rights to, a couple of things I had created, so we made this Grinch sale. I remember I wrote the copy, it was like, it was the Grinch Before Christmas or something. It had a picture of the Grinch and his heart growing three sizes, I don't know. I wrote this copy. My wife and I had been married a year, she really wants a couch, I can't afford a couch, so if you guys buy this, if I sell 32 of these things, I can buy her a couch and put it under the Christmas tree. It will be amazing. Caleb: You said that in the copy? Russell: In the copy, yeah. It was the reason why. I still have the page, I can show it to you. I know exactly where it's at, I can show it to you. So I had the whole page and then only an email list of like a couple hundred people at the time. I still had an affiliate program, so at the top it had an affiliate link. So I sent an email to my list and went to bed that night. Someone on my list was a guy named Carl Galletti, I haven't heard about Carl in a long time. He was a big famous copy writer at the time. Carl went and saw the thing, bought it, and started affiliating. So he joined the affiliate program, he was like this is awesome. He took that email, sent it to his entire list of this huge thing. So I go to bed. I wake up the next morning, we're at $10,000 in sales. Matt: How much before you went to bed? Russell: Oh, like $30, $40 or something. I was like, what just happened. Did I rob someone? I didn't know what happened. I looked at my email and there's all these people who were like, hey, I bought two of them, I hope you can get your wife that couch. Oh, I sent it to my friend. All these people. Because Carl promoted it, all these other people who follow Carl saw it. Carl is like it's converting like crazy. Tons of people are buying it. I'm freaking out. I'm going to wrestling practice trying to answer customer support. I'm late for practice, I ran into wrestling practice, I get back out I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I made like $600 in sales." I'm freaking out. Anyway, the whole thing goes through and over that, I think it was a seven day sale or something like that, we made $35,000. Which is more money than I'd seen in all my lifetime combined times 100, right? I paid probably 10 grand in affiliates. We made, I don't know, $25,000 that we got to keep. I was like, "Oh my gosh." I told Colette, and Colette's like, my wife. I love her. She doesn't understand the business part of things at all. I was like, "We made $25,000." She was like, "Is it illegal?" First thing. "Are you going to go to jail? Is it illegal?" I'm like, "No, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure." The first thing I did is I went and bought the couch for her, for Christmas. We got it back, I got a picture of her, sent it out to the list saying thank you so much, you got the Christmas gift, the couch. They all celebrated together, all the people. I was like oh my gosh, this is the greatest game of all time. This is so much fun. I was like, what's the next idea, what's the next thing. It was like that, these little things. After that one was done now I had way more customers, all these people that had bought my product knew who I was now so the next thing was easier so it incrementally kept growing and getting bigger. Somewhere along the line I launched the potato gun thing. Upsales of things. We didn't call them funnels back then. We called them sales flows or sales processes. Talk about your sales flow, what's your sales flow. Caleb: Sales flow. Russell: I remember Dylan Jones was our partner at ClickFunnels. Before Todd we tried to build something like ClickFunnels, we called it Click.com.com, which is a horrible name. But Dylan's, I still have all the UI images, and in there we had a whole section for sales flows and all these things. It's like, this was the first ClickFunnels. Because Dylan was on the UI eventually on ClickFunnels anyway, but we literally designed something like this five or six years earlier. Just crazy. Matt: Do you think that all those little failures and all the trying and that kind of energy is what brought you here today? Russell: For sure. It's the key. I wish I could grab everybody because everybody's like, okay, I'm waiting for my ClickFunnels, or I'm waiting for my thing. They're waiting and they're waiting and they're waiting. I was like, the reason why I got this thing was because I didn't wait. If someone were to give me ClickFunnels initially it would have been bankrupt in 15 minutes, right? You have to become worthy of the thing eventually. You don't become worthy by waiting, you become worthy by trying. And trying and trying and trying. Eventually, if you keep doing that, over time, then God's like, all right, he's going to do it. He's built 150 funnels, now I'll give him the idea. Matt: Wow, that's powerful. Speaker 3: How much more did you feel that all your other friends are in the same game? Matt: I hope you guys take there's more that's caught than Todd. That's some gold in what he just shared right there, what you were just sharing. But go ahead. What was the question? Speaker 3: I was just saying how much more would you fail if all your other friends were playing the same game? Russell: All my friends were like why are you launching more stuff? Why do you keep doing things? They do like one product launch a year. They got so annoyed. They were like, dude, stop doing stuff. I'm like, why would I stop doing this? This is so much fun. It was just confusing to me. Why don't you guys do more? Everyone, they make money they'd just be done. Caleb: Why would you keep doing more? Was it genuinely like one funnel away? Like this next funnel's the one. Were you just like you sold yourself on it, this is it, so you keep going? Or did you just really enjoy it? Russell: Well each one I thought was. Each one, every time I was so surprised, like this is amazing. That was the one. The next one's bigger. Oh my gosh, that was even better, who knew? And then I just kept going from there, you know what I mean? So I wasn't waiting for ClickFunnels or anything like that. I was just enjoying the journey every time. It was so exciting. Eventually it was like, oh crap, who knew that that was going to do what it did. Caleb: Was it all emails? Was there any ads or was there anything to scale the traffic? Russell: First 10 years was 100% emails, partnerships. There wasn't ads back then. I mean, there was Google ads, but the first initial Google slap happened about the time I was getting started. Prior to that a lot of guys I knew built their email list off of Google ads and then the slap happened. A lot of them had lists. I started getting to know those guys, going to events, meeting them, so that's how it started initially was tons of that. And then there was this big gap for years where paid ads weren't a thing. Some people did banner ads, but it wasn't consistent. It wasn't like it is nowadays. It was harder. You worked harder and all the stuff wasn't there. Mostly we focused on ... If you didn't have an email list, you weren't playing the game. It's like, who's got lists, how can you build lists, what can you do? Matt: You still think that's true to a degree? Russell: 100%. That's why the traffic seekers book was so important for me to write, I feel like, because most of the people in the game today have been blessed with Zuckerberg's simple Facebook ads that make the game easy. Matt: Wow. Russell: They've never focused on building lists. I was like, you guys, just so you know, Zuckerberg is going to screw us all. It's going to happen. Matt: Yeah. Caleb: It will happen. Russell: It's like, if you don't have a list you're all screwed. I've been through this for 18 years now, I've been through five or six cycles. I've seen people who made millions of dollars who now are not online. The people who have waded the storm the whole time are all the list builders. They're the ones who survived. Everyone else who's good at ads, they come and they go and they come and they go. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 02 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Roundtable of World Changers (Part 2 of 4) full 419 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part two of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter... The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part two of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. So I have got to ask you, what did you think about episode number one of the World Changers Roundtable? Hopefully, you loved it. There were so many things covered in that 42 minutes. Anyway, we are moving on to the next part of this interview. As you know, this is going to be broken down into four parts because they kept me there, handcuffed to a table, until 3:00 AM. I'm just joking. They didn't really. But, the question was so intriguing, we were having so much fun, we just kept going and going until finally I was like, "I have to fly out in three hours. I need to get back to my hotel." But now we're going to go dive into the second part. This next episode is probably another 30 to 40, 45 minutes or so as well. So these are some things we'll be covering in this one, which is really fun. We talk about, number one, why my business partner, Todd Dickerson, is so amazing, and hopefully give you ideas about if you're pursuing opportunities and trying to land your dream job or partnership or whatever. Number two, we talked about personality profiling, how we actually are hiring here at ClickFunnels. We talked about where my love for learning came from. We talked about transition for me, going from an athlete to a business person and a marketer. We talked about some of the lessons I learned from Lindsey Stirling, things I was not expecting to hear from her that totally changed everything for me. We talked about people who intrigue me, my interest in health and bio hacking. We talked about is there anything that happens inside of this business that gets me as excited as what I felt in wrestling. We talked about what thing is close, but nothing actually has ever hit it. We talked about the first Two Comma Club Awards. We talked about how to upgrade your identity as you grow. We talked about the fact that you have to cycle and fail and rebuild in your businesses. We talked about the launch of ClickFunnels and how it wasn't just the fact that I was a genius, because I wasn't. There are so many things. Talking about the grace of God and how it tied into the launch of ClickFunnels. We talked about some of my early products, like Zip Brander and Forum Fortunes. We talked about my Christmas Grinch sale, which was the very first big sale, big launch I ever did, to my little tiny list that made enough money to cover Christmas for my wife and I when we were first getting started. We talked about becoming worthy. We talked about list building, how it's better than buying ads, and a whole bunch of other things. It's amazing, this could be 40 courses all wrapped into one super podcast episode. So if you liked the last episode, I think you're going to love this one as well. And I've got two more after this, coming back, going deeper into this conversation with the Roundtable of World Changers. So, that said, we're going to cue the theme song. When we come back, we'll dive right into the second section here of the interview. Matt Maddix: Dave and Todd, I mean, just wow. Those dudes are like... But what about those guys? Russell: So here's Todd's story. So the real long story short, I bought some software, it was coding Ruby on Rails, didn't know that. Bought this company with the last... I didn't have the money. So I borrowed money, bought this company, coded on some platform we didn't know, and I was like, "Screw it," right? And I tried to hire people to fix it, nobody could fix this platform until finally I was leaving the office one day. I literally emailed the people saying, "Turn off the servers." We lost all of our money to this company. They shut it down. And I'm walking out of the office and I had this impression of like, "There could be someone on your email list who knows Ruby on Rails." I was like, "That's weird. I had a bunch of internet marketing nerds. There's no one that's like, 'Ruby on Rails...'" Anyway. It was starting with the impression from God, I stopped, turned back around, set the computer to open back up, sent an email to my list. "If you know Ruby on Rails, I'm looking for a partner. I bought a software company and it's not working. Please send me a message." Send. Matt: And that's all you said? Russell: Yeah. And lo and behold, three years earlier, Todd bought some random thing from me, happened to be on my email list. He built the website three or four years earlier that was making six figures a year on autopilot. Hadn't worked in four years. Just hanging out relaxing with his wife and his daughter. And an email comes in and it says, "If you know Ruby on Rails, I'm looking for a partner." He's like, "I know Ruby on Rails. I can be Russell's partner." Emails me back. And at first I see him and his beautiful wife and I'm like, "There's no way he's a programmer. There's no way." That was literally my thought. But he was the only person that responded back so I was like, "Okay, well, here's the login to the site. Fix it. I don't know what to do. I'm not a coder." I went to bed, woke up the next morning. He's like, "Cool, I fixed the site. Plus I found this, this, and this. And I changed this. And I moved these things,", and all of this stuff. He's like, "It's working now. Do you have anything else you want to do together?" I'm like, "Huh." And so I give him another project, another project. And for an entire year Todd and I worked together, and never once did he ever ask me for money, ever. Matt: Wow. Russell: Not a penny. And I remember he started finding Boise to work on a project together ... Matt: You're telling me he worked for you for an entire year? Russell: For free. More than a year. Caleb Maddix: Why was that? Russell: I don't know. I found out later. He'd gone to Robert Kiyosaki at this event and he said, "Find someone who's doing what you want to do and work for them for free." So he told me that years later. I didn't know that. Matt: Todd, if you're watching dude. I love you man. You're legit. Russell: And so he kept coming and he started coming to Boise and we started becoming friends. The smartest developer I've ever met. Literally the smartest person I've ever met. I'll go that far. Just genius. And he'd come out to Boise and we'd work on projects and ideas. We tried to launch a couple of things. None of them really worked. And we were just trying stuff. He was just always there, always serving, always doing stuff. And one day were in Boise and I was looking over his shoulder cause we're looking at stuff and I saw his email. And there's all these emails from some recruiting site or something. I was like, "What's that?" He's like, "Oh, it's people recruiting me for a Ruby job." And I was like, "Do you get a lot of those?" And he's like, "I get three or for a day." I'm like, "Really? Are they good offers?" He's like, "I don't know. Let's check it out." He opened it up and the first one was like $400,000 a year starting salary. I'm like, "What?" The next one is $350,000. The next was 5 ... Insane things. I'm like, "Why don't you do that?" He's like, "I don't want to work for them. I want to be your partner man." I'm like, "What?" And then I all of a sudden had this realization that I hadn't paid him in a year. We didn't have much money at the time, we're still at the backside of a business failure when we met. I'm like, "I can pay you maybe $50,000 a year. Can I pay you that?" He's like, "Whatever." So I told our little bookkeeper, "Pay Todd $50,000 a year." And they're like, "Okay." So he did that and next year we're paying $50,000 a year. We're doing stuff and we have more things. Started to get a little success here and there. Making more money. Back in Boise again. And I'm like, "Can I pay you some more?" And he's like, "Whatever." Matt: So he wasn't ever just asking? Russell: Never in his life has he asked me for money. Ever. So we bumped it up to $100,000 a year because that's what we got, the year before that, after a year or two working together. And then, it was crazy, the day Leadpages got the first round of funding for $5,000,000, the same day Todd was flying to Boise. And he gets the email. It's east coast so he's two hours ahead. He's awake and on the plane, he sees the email, forwards it to me, and then jumps in the plane. He's flying for four hours. I wake up. I see the email and I was like, "Leadpages? Got 5 ..." I was like, we built landing page software in the past. I was perplexed and angry. And then Todd lands. And Todd, he's a little guy, he comes into the office all angry. He's like, "Leadpages got 5 million!" He's like, "I can build Leadpages tonight. Do you want to build lead pages?" I'm like, "Yeah. Let's compete with Leadpages." He's like, "All right." Matt: No way. Dude. I love this. Russell: This is like angry Todd. I love angry Todd. I like all Todds, but angry Todd is the best Todd. Matt: Is it? Okay. Russell: He's just pissed because he's like, "I can build this tonight. Everything thing they got we can have done tonight." So we're getting all ready. What should we call it and everything. And then he's like, "Wait, we're building this. You want to add anything else to it?" And I was like, "Oh. Yeah. What if it did this? And what if it did this?" And we spent a week in front of a white board saying, "What if it did?", and we mapped out ClickFunnels. Matt: So you're talking about a week where you guys just locked in and you were just having fun. Just doodling and whatever. Russell: Yeah. He's like, "Oh, I can do that. We can do that." We're brainstorming all sorts of stuff so we map the whole thing out. Matt: Did you know at that moment you were onto something big? At that moment right there, when you guys were like ... Or was it just still like ... Russell: All lot of people have tried something like that. I tried before other people tried. No one had done it. So I was kind of skeptical but Todd's like, "I can do this. This is easy." I'm like, "Okay because I tried it ..." He's like, "No dude, I can do it. This is easy." So I was, excuse me, optimistically hopeful because he's a genius but I was also nervous. But anyways, we map it out and then we bought Clickpros.com. I wanted to call it ClickFusion because I own ClickFusion, but we'd had three failed businesses called ClickFusion. All of them failed and Todd was like, "No. It's bad karma. We can't." I'm like, "But the logo is so cool dude." Matt: I love it. You love the logo. Russell: And he's like, "No, we can't." He's like, "It's got a jinx on it or something. We can't do that. You have to come up with a different name." I was like, "But ClickFusion is the coolest name ever." So we're trying things. Click everything and then ClickFunnels. We're like, "Ah." That was the thing. We're so excited Matt: Who first said it? Do you remember? The words ClickFunnels. Caleb: It's almost like God saying, "Let there be light." Russell: I would assume it was me but I'm not positive. I'll have to ask Todd on that one. Caleb: Well, when you said it, was it instant? Like fire? Russell: It was insane, it was available. Matt: Oh, you know that feeling, right? Checking domains. You're like… chills. Russell: How has no one thought of this before? And so we got it and I remember I was driving him to the airport at the end of the week to take him back home. And we got to the airport. Boise airport, It's a small airport. So we pull up to the thing to get out and you can tell he's probably nervous waiting. And before we get out of the car he's like, "I really want to do this man. I'm excited." I'm like, "Me too. Me too." He's like, "I don't want to do this like your employee though. I want to do it as your partner." And in that moment, I was just like all the fear of ... I'd tried partners in the past. It hadn't worked. All this stuff and all the everything. And it was just this weird thing of just all the emotions were hitting me as he sat in the car, about to get out the car. I have 15, 20 seconds before he's going to to go. I was just thinking about him. I was like, he's never asked me for money. He's never done anything. He's served. He's given everything. I was just looking at him. I was like, "All right let's do it." He's like, "Cool." And he got out of the car and he's gone. Matt: Wait a minute. So at that moment? Is was that quick? Russell: That was it. Matt: It was a gut feeling that you just knew. That he was ... Russell: It was him. Yeah. And I was literally... I said this on stage at Funnel hacking live, outside of marrying my wife, it was the greatest decision I ever made. Matt: Yeah. I remember you saying that with tears. Russell: Yeah. Matt: Why though? I'm curious because it's not just ClickFunnels. Russell: He's amazing. If you look at our personality profiles, it's fascinating. We have the same personality profiles. The Myers-Briggs. Except for one letter's different. Where I'm a feeler he's a thinker. And it's been magical as a partnership because we both have so much respect for each other that we don't try to fight each other. And it's very much like if I wanted to do something, I'm like, "This is what I want to do. This what I'm feeling. What do you think?" And he'll come back and be like, "Well, I think this." And so I come up from feeling instead of thinking and it's really cool. So sometimes his thinking will trump my feeling. And I'm like, "You're actually right. Let's not do that." Or vice versa. Where he's like, "I'm thinking this." And I'm like, "I don't know why but I feel this." And he'll be like, "Okay." He respects that. We just have such mutual respect that we've never been in a fight. We've never argued. We've never had problems. It's been amazing. Matt: Wow. Russell: And he's similar to like we talk about with Dan. He went back home after us white boarding that, sat in his basement for five or six months and built ClickFunnels by himself. Caleb: Really just by himself? Russell: 100% by himself. Caleb: No other team. No other dev? Russell: It was just him. And the right before we launched, we brought in another partner, Dylan, who built the front-end editor and did a lot of the UI. And so then it was those two as we got closer and closer to the launch. And then for the next year it was just those two that did everything. And then after a year, we started bringing in other developers. But it was 100% Todd. Matt: Wow. Russell: He's amazing. In all aspects. You know you have friends you think they know everything about everything. That's like Todd except he actually knows everything about everything. You ask him anything and he's just like ... I don't know how he does it. And I'll always fact check him, like, "Oh my gosh. He's right again." He's brilliant. It's amazing. Matt: So for those of us who have partners or are maybe going into partnership, what's your best advice? And what do you feel like he does right that other partners don't do? Russell: I think the hardest thing with partners is typically we want to partner with someone who is just like us. We did a podcast most recently. Dean, Tony and I, right? We've done two partnerships. Both partnerships made it through the launch and they stopped. Made it through the launch and stopped. The podcast was like, "Why?" I love Dean. I love Tony. They're amazing. The problem is that me and Dean had the exact same skill set. Matt: Oh. Russell: And so the problem is that both of us are right. We both understand it right, but we do it differently. And so it's like You have two people, and so typically you want to partner with those people who are like you. You're like, "Oh, we think the same. We should be partners." But that's not necessarily the right thing because then you've got two alphas with the same skillset, and someone has to win and someone has to lose. And it's hard. Whereas me and Todd, we have different skill sets. There is never a winner or a loser. We can both win because different skill sets, both the same mission. It's really easy. So I think the biggest thing is you're trying to find the yin yang. You're not trying to find someone who thinks like you or acts like you. In fact, this is true in most hiring processes as well. I used to have people like, "Send me a video if you want this job." Right? So I get these videos, and the people that I wanted to hire were the people like me. I'm like, "This person's awesome. They think like me. They're a genius. They're amazing." You'll hire them, and within a week I'm like, "I hate this person." It's horrible. So we started shifting the way we do our hiring based on personality profiling instead. DISC profile drives most of my own personal hiring so I know that I'm a high D, high I, high S. No C at all. Right? And so the people I need to hire around me are high S, high C. The problem is the people I who I watched their videos and I'm pumped, they're high D, high I. So I'm like, "Yeah. These people are awesome. They're charismatic. I'm going to love them. They're drivers, they're awesome. Worst employees ever. Matt: Right. Russell: Right? So when people send us this profile, first I find the right profile and then from there I do interviews. Because if I interview ahead of time I get sold by the people who sell and then they're horrible employees. And so I make sure they're high S high C, because I know that if I talk to high S high C, I'm going to be kind of bummed out. Like, "Oh, I don't know if this is the kind of person that I'm going to jive with." But they're the best people to surround myself with because I'm such a high D high S. I'm a creator. I'm throwing things up in the air and I need people who are S and C, who are faithful finishers, who are going to take the things, capture them, and make sure that it's amazing. Matt: Do you feel like businesses and entrepreneurs are making a mistake by not having their employees and their team take these tests? Russell: 100%. I have a new company we're launching all about personality profiling because I'm such a big believer in it. Matt: Really? Tell me why. Top three reasons. Russell: It's in all things in life. If you're going to be a partner. If you're going to date someone. Understanding who they are is such a big part of it. Right? Because we think everyone sees the world the same way we see it and it is not true at all. The way you see it, the way we all see is so different and so if we don't understand that at a deep level, then I get upset by what you do and at what everyone's doing because it's like, "Don't you see what I see?" And the reality is no they don't. So if you start understanding people better ... In fact, the software can be called Understand About Me. It's a place you go and you take all the personality profiling and it gives you a page that can show somebody this is me. So in five seconds I can understand you perfectly they're like, "Oh, now I know how to work with you." Because I understand what you are, what your beliefs are, what your values, all the things I need to know about you, I can find it really quickly. Where normally you're going to go years with somebody before you understand them. I can look at a thing and get pretty dang close in a minute. Matt: Wow. Russell: Now I know hot interact with you and spend time with you and work with you. Things like that. Caleb: Question. Where does your love to learn come from? Because one of the things I noticed from being around you, it's always like yeah, so I had this moment where I geeked on this and I geeked out on this. It was health and suppliments, and marketing and personality types. There's all these different things you geek out on. Have you always been that way? Is it like you geek out on marketing, you saw the rewards from it, and you're like, "Wow, what if this goes into other areas?" Where does that come from? Russell: Yeah, I didn't always have my life. In fact, I had a fascinating conversation with Tom Bilyeu about this, because when I was growing up in high school I always thought I was a dumb kid. I thought I was an athlete, so I focused there. I thought I was an athlete, so I was a wrestler, that was my identity, that was where I focused at. I thought I was dumb. Because of that, straight C student high school and college, my cumulative GPA graduating from college was 2.3. Straight C's and one B maybe somewhere in there, right? Because I was a dumb kid. When I got done I ended my wrestling career, so I stopped being an athlete, and I was like, "Oh crap." I started to learn this business stuff and I don't like to read. I'm a dumb kid. What do I do? It was fascinating. Tom told me, because I had this epiphany, I'm not actually dumb. He's like, "Actually, the reality is you probably really were dumb. But then you changed, right?" So for me it was like I shifted. It was fascinating. Do you remember the Funnel Hacking Live where we had Lindsay Stirling perform? One of my favorite parts of that, she did a whole performance. If you guys don't know, Lindsay does violin dancing stuff, and afterwards I had a Q and A with her afterwards. I had this question I was so pumped to ask. I was waiting for her just to like, the question is, she was on America's Got Talent, and I think she took 7th place. When she got kicked off, Pierce Bronson or whatever said, "You've got no talent. You're no good." Whatever, right? So I was like, do you remember that time when he said that? What I thought she was going to say was, "Yeah, I proved him wrong. Yeah." I was like, "What did you feel after that?" She's like, "Yeah, I got home and I realized he was right. I wasn't very good. So I went back and I started practicing and I started working harder and eventually I became good enough." It was like, oh my gosh. I got chills when I was saying it again. Matt: Yeah. Russell: I remember when Tom said it to me, he was like, "You probably were dumb." I was like, "I was." Because I wasn't reading things. So with marketing that was the first thing for some reason that caught my attention, that got me excited, right? And then if you look at my DISC profile, ROI is my highest value. I have to see ROI in something or I don't want to do it. So when I saw an ROI on this reading, I was like, "Oh my gosh. I read a book, I got one little sentence, changed a color, made more money. Oh my gosh." That is where it started, 100%. I started learning that and I started getting obsessed with those things. As this business grew for me I started being more, I always joke that crazy people got attracted to me, right? The best health people, the best fitness people, the best in every market kind of came into our world somehow. So I started getting to meet all these people. When you're around someone who's the best in the world at the thing, and they start talking about the thing, you can't help but be like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." Right? You zone in on that. So whenever I meet someone that's amazing and I have a chance to talk to them like this I just geek out. Like when I met your dad the first time with you guys. That's when I bought your parenting course and everything. I was just like, I saw you and I saw him and I was like, "I want that." So I started going down that rabbit hole, right? I met Anthony DiClementi, I was like, "I love this guy. I have respect for him, I love him." Every time he talks about anything, he fascinates me, when he talks about something it fascinates me. I have to look down those things, right? When people fascinate me, the things that fascinate them start fascinating me and that's when I kind of go down those rabbit holes. This person is so intriguing and fascinating. What makes them that way? What are they doing. It's interesting. I'm not a good question asker. You guys are so good at question askers. I've never been good at asking questions, but I'm really good at watching what people do and then seeing it and trying to go down the rabbit hole. What are they doing, why are they doing it, that kind of thing. Caleb: He’s a true master in it. You can just tell. What are some things you want to take the time to geek out on? I'm sure you see something and you're like I want to get on that but it's not a priority, I've got to do this. What are some things, if I had a week or two? Russell: Just free time with nothing else involved? Caleb: What's the next thing you're going to geek out on? Russell: Oh. I would say every probably three years I get re-excited about SEO, for some reason. I start going down that path again, because I love it. There's times in my business when that was the focused. It's not now at all, but I went through a couple ... Brian Dean’s a real cool SEO guy, couple guys… I started dabbing my toe in again and I'm like, I just want to get back into it so bad. Right now SEO is actually our number 11 lead source as of today in ClickFunnels, which is amazing. So we handed SEO the first four or five years, now we're focused on it again. It's doing really well for us. I want to go deep there because I like that. Anyway, I haven't had a chance to do that. Any of the health stuff really, really fascinates me. Matt: Why? I'm curious. Why are you drawn to that so much? The health stuff. Russell: Because I've seen with myself ... My history is I got in wrestling, at the PAC 10 tournament was my last actual wrestling match. My wife was giving herself fertility shots in the stomach during PAC 10 so the next month se was pregnant. So I got done wrestling, got done competing, got done running, got done lifting. All my athletic career ended, and then my wife got pregnant. She's eating for three kids, and I'm pumped because I don't have to work out right now, she's hungry, I'm hungry, we're eating. We just kept eating and eating. So over the next seven to eight months my wife gained like 60 pounds, I gained like 60 pounds. We were doing it together so who cared, it was amazing. Then one day she has two babies and she loses like 45 pounds and I'm like, oh crap. I'm stuck here. Where did you go? This for me? Matt: Yeah. Russell: Thank you. Then at that time the business was starting and I was stressed out trying to figure it out and I didn't get healthy again. I just was in that state of being 65 pounds heavier for years. But I didn't know the difference, I didn't know that I felt differently, because I'd never been in a spot where I spent eight hours sitting behind a computer, so I didn't know what good felt like or bad felt like. I knew if I tried to wrestle I'd puke, so I was like I don't feel like I'm an athlete. I just felt normal, I thought. Eight years in I was like, I don't know, I looked at myself in the mirror and I was like, "Oh, what happened to you?" You know what I mean? I'm sure hopefully everybody's had a chance. I was like, huh. It was hard because in my head I knew how to work out, I knew how to train, I knew these things. Finally I was like, "I need to get a trainer." So I got a trainer for the first time. I'd never really done that before. Started going, and got me from I don't even know, 27, 28% body fat down to 12% in a matter of seven or eight months. I looked better, I felt better, but what's crazy is I could work twice as hard and twice as long. I wasn't tired. I was like, "I can keep going. My brain's on fire. This is amazing." Matt: Wow. Just from the ... Russell: I had no idea until I lost all the weight. All of a sudden it was just like, I can do so much more. I think, when I first met Anthony DiClementi the first time I was like, this is my problem right now. I am at work all day slaying dragons, doing all these things, I have this energy. I get home at night and my two little twin boys are there, and my little daughter, and I'm spent and I have no energy. How do I still be a present dad and how do I have these things? The next tier was the bio hacking stuff. How do you do these things? How do you increase energy? There's so many ways to do that, from light therapy to supplements to sleeping to sound to breath, all these crazy things that seem stupid. The first time Anthony's like, "We're going to do breath work." I'm like, "We're going to breathe? That's your bio hack? We're going to breathe together?" He's like, "Yeah, it's going to be amazing." I'm like super annoyed. What's the ROI on this, I've got to get back to work. So he sat me down in our gym. You've been in our wrestling room. He sat me down and he's like, "You have to sit because if you're standing you'll hit your head and you'll die." I'm like, what are you talking about? He sits me down and we do these breathing exercises where he's yelling at us and screaming. All this stuff is happening. If anyone's ever done deep breath work it's nuts. We're doing this thing where we're supposed to do this heavy, heavy breath work until he's like, what's going to happen is the world is going to ... Has anybody done jiu-jitsu here? Been tapped out before? Matt: Yeah. Russell: So you get choked out. What will happen, the carotid artery gets choked and the world starts shrinking like this. If you take pressure off it, it comes back to life. If you don't, it goes darker and darker until it disappears and you're gone, right? If you've never been choked out, that's what happens. It's a really fun experience. But you have the minute when you see it shrinking around you and then it's gone, right? He told me that's what's going to happen. You're going to breathe so much that the world around you is going to start shrinking. If you don't stop you're going to pass out. So we go all the way to where it starts shrinking, stops, and then when you hit that point you let me know and then you hold your breath for as long as you can. He's like, "How long can you hold your breath for?" I'm like, "Maybe a minute." He's like, "You'll do it for at least five." I was like, there's no way. So he says sit down, we're doing this breath thing, we're going like crazy and sure enough the walls start doing weird stuff. I feel like I'm on drugs. I'm sweating like crazy. We keep doing it. He's yelling at me. All of a sudden the world starts closing around me, I'm like, "What is happening?" And then he stops and is like, "Hold your breath." He starts the clock. I'm sitting here holding my breath forever, looking around. We had three or four of us guys all doing it at the same time. I'm freaking out. And then it starts getting quieter, things are slowing down, we're sitting there and then he's like let some of the pressure out but don't breathe in. Let pressure out, pressure out, pressure out, keep doing that, and it gets done and the stop clock is over five minutes. I'm just like, I just held my breath for five minutes. Matt: And you didn't even know it. Russell: Insane. And then the rest of the day we were on fire. It was just like, whoa. Right? We brought a cryo-sauna at our house and we go freeze in the cryo-sauna and the rest of the day you just feel ... That's the thing I love now, these little weird things. Light therapy, breathing, weird things that just seem stupid. You do it and you can go longer, you can think better, you can do stuff. All those things just get me so excited. Anthony's fun because he randomly will just ship me weird stuff in the mail. Just the weirdest things. It makes my wife so mad. It just shows up. There's a big old box. She's like, what's this from? I'm like, I'm hoping it's from Anthony, it's going to be amazing. Just weird things. Tons of stuff. I love that kind of stuff because the ROI on it is crazy. They're always these weird things. I have this headband someone sent me. You put this headband on, you put an app on and you start working and it just makes you not tired, makes you focused. These weird things. How does this work? I don't know. And they're like oh, it works because the waves over here sync your brain and change your brain waves and the creative state and all these things. I mean, I don't know how it works but I just wrote two chapters. Caleb: Do you do breath work every day? Russell: No, because it's so intense. If I had a coach who could walk me through it. I have a recording of Anthony doing it and I almost dread it because I know how hard it is. By the time you're done you're sweating. Caleb: I've got to get that recording. Russell: I'll get it to you. By the time you're sweating, you're like what just happened? I just breathed for five minutes. It's weird. Anyway, I would love to understand it on a deeper level but I don't understand a lot of the things now. Some of them I've gone deep on, but a lot of them I do without knowing why. I hate it because my wife will be like, "What's this do?" And I'm like, I don't know. Matt: Just love it. Russell: One of my buddies, Preston Eli, he wrote this blog post, he called it the Warriornaire Workout. In there he explains part of his morning workout. He's like, why do I do it? He's like, because Tony Robins does, and I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence. That quote goes to my head all the time. People ask me, why do you do that? I'm like, because I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence, that's it. I'm like, I don't know the reason why, Tony says so, therefore I will do it. I would like to understand it at a deeper level so I have a better response than I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. But that's a pretty good reason. Anyway. Matt: Real quick, does anybody else want to throw in a question for Russell? Anybody else here live with us? Caleb: Let me ask one more real fast. Because I want to. I want to ask this. We were just having sushi, I was asking you, what are some of the favorite periods of your life? One of them you said was wrestling, which I found funny because by far one of my favorite periods is baseball, which people wouldn't expect because obviously I've been on stage and all this other stuff and that should take the cake. But those moments when you're just on the field, you're in the zone, there's nothing better. Where, with what you get to do now, whether it's being live on a webinar or being on stage or whatever it is, where do you get the same feeling of wrestling? Do you know what I mean? You know, the feeling in your chest? Russell: Today while we were in line at the grocery store I talked to your dad about this. I said that the best feelings I ever had in my life were from wrestling. The feeling of winning a hard match that I wasn't supposed to win and getting your hand raised, I never felt something like that, that felt as good as that, ever. I've been searching in business to find that, and I've never found it. Speaker 3: Do you feel like sports is like business in any sense? Matt: Good question. Russell: For sure, yeah. There's a lot, for sure. What I was going to say is the closest I've ever gotten to feeling that is when you serve at an event and you see a table rush and you see not only people where they get the a-ha, but enough of an a-ha where it gets them to get up and to move. That's the closest I've ever felt to that. It's not as good, but it's the closest I've ever felt to that. Which is why I love doing the big things. I get a glimpse of that. Caleb: How close? Scale of one to 10. Wrestling's a 10. Where does that rank? Russell: If wrestling's a 10, I'd say it's about an eight. In fact it's interesting because when I first started in business I was racing for that, trying to find it, trying to find it, trying to find it. It took me years before I was like ... Matt: Is it disappointing? Russell: For sure, yeah. We launch today and make a million dollars and it's like, huh. That sucked. What else have we got. Give me something else. Matt: Exactly. Russell: The money goal is always what I thought was going to be the thing, and those always were just like, huh. In fact, literally one of the main reasons I did the Two Comma Club Awards, for me I need, maybe it's just from a decade of my life someone grabbing my hand and raising it. I was like, entrepreneurs need that. No one raises our hands. Two Comma Club Awards, for me, is me lifting their hands like you did it. I needed that, they need that. That's one of the main reasons I did that, because that's the equivalent of that. Anyway. Matt: How many millionaires have you created? Russell: This year we passed 1,000 people that won the two comma club award. We're over 120. Matt: How does it feel to say that? To say it? You know how sometimes it's like so many people that have passion or goals or huge dreams and visions, rarely do they really celebrate what's happening on the journey. Do you find yourself ever getting where your vision is so big and your passion is so deep that even saying things like there's 1,000 millionaires. Dude, that's huge. Man, 1,000 people that are millionaires because of you. Russell: I think the first time I really got that, probably the most impactful time, was the very first Funnel Hacking live that we gave away Two Comma Club Awards. It was the third Funnel Hacking live. It was a couple of months before that we had the idea of a Two Comma Club and an award, talking about that. I legitimately didn't know. I wonder if anyone in ClickFunnels has actually made a million dollars. I don't even know. So Dave went back and the database guys went through everything and I remember he came back and was like, there's 79 people right now that made a million dollars. I was just like, are you serious? Matt: Was it a boost of confidence? What did it do for you? Russell: It was one of those things, looking back on me doing these events where two people showed up and nobody showed up, hardly anybody, where I was so excited about this? I was like, how come nobody cares? To now it was like, this is actually, I've talked about this long enough people are believing it and now they're doing it. You start seeing it, and there's the fruits of it. In my mind I was like a million bucks, even then, ClickFunnel was new, I was like a million dollars is hard. Most of my friends I knew were like made somewhere near a million dollars. There were people who have been in this business for a long time. A million bucks is a big deal. That was most people's goal still. The fact that 79 people had done it, that was just weird to me. I think that was the biggest one, the realization that just like, oh my gosh. It's not just a theory and I think it works, it's working. It's working at a scale that was unfathomable to me at the time. 79 people. To go to 200 and then 500 and then 1,000 is crazy. Matt: What was your question, buddy? Speaker 4: You're talking about how at each level of success you hit, some of your mentors hit that ceiling, right? Because of the posturing, right? So ultimately I feel like when you get to a new level of success it requires you to upgrade your identity, your self image. What have you found is the number one routine, what's your process for upgrading the identity, upgrading your self image? Because I think that's so important because it can either hold you back and have you self sabotage and not take action and go after what you want, or it's going to be the thing that keeps you at that level and continues to propel you forward. What's kept you ... Russell: That's good. It's weaved through everything, right? The one that's the most obvious external, especially in our world, because you see marketers, most people when they first start selling whatever it is they're selling they're bragging about themselves. Here's my ad, here's my name. It's all about them, that's the first tier of it. And then the second tier, when they start having the realization, I feel like is when they stop talking about themselves and start talking about the people they've helped. Speaker 4: Mm. Russell: You see externally. You don't hear me talking about how much money I make. I'm not like, oh, check out what I got. I talk about all the other people. It's like, that's next year, is that. And then for me the third tier now, which has been really cool, is talking about Lady Boss, right? The success story isn't Kailin, it's Kailin's customers, right? So it's like that next tier. What you're talking about is like the external version of that. There's a lot of internal things that you've got to deal with, but you'll notice it shifting in people when you look at just their messaging and what they're saying. From the way they podcast, they video, they market, their ads and everything, it's the shift of it's not about me, it's about them. It's not even about them, that's the external version of it. Internally I think it's really, it's what we talked about, I can't remember why, but we brought up yesterday or today I had this really successful guy I met one time who the first time we met he was like tell me your story. So I was telling him the wrestle posturing story about how great I was. He was like, no. Tell me about the time you failed. So I was like, well, I'm in the middle of one right now. So I told him let me tell you. I told this whole thing. I remember afterwards I was so embarrassed. He's going to think I'm an idiot. You know, that fear? He was like, good, you cycled. I was like, what? He was like, I will not work with entrepreneurs who haven't cycled at least once. Because if they haven't then they still believe their own bio, right? I think that's the biggest thing, the internal version is that. The first time around, before you cycle, you think it's all you. I know for me it was. I remember doing this the first time, I'm like, I am a genius. I'm the smartest guy in the world. And then when it collapsed I was like, oh, there's a lot of things outside my control. This is not me. There is a team, there's God, there's all these other things that are making this possible. There's a scripture, I can't remember where it's at, it's the Bible, Book of Mormon, but it says you can either be humble or God will humble ... Ah, I'm misquoting it by far. But it's like God will humble people. You can be humble or he will humble you. So it's like, looking at that, I'm like round two I'm going to be a humble person because I don't want to be humbled again, right? Matt: I still feel it. Russell: This is not me. I understand, I look around now and it's 100% like there's no way I would be where I am right now if Dan Usher didn't make videos the way he does. There's no way I'd be here right now if Todd Dickerson could not code software the way he does. There's no way, all these things are so many people. Matt: You're so right. Russell: Then there's so many success stories that inside of it there's just so many people. And then there's the grace of God. I just look at the timeline of when ClickFunnels came into the market. I've now got funnels for a decade, nobody cared. Then all these things were happening, we started having the idea for ClickFunnels, started building it, we're creating it, and then literally we go to traffic and conversion, Todd's halfway done building ClickFunnels, and Ryan Deiss stands on stage in the biggest event at the time and he spends the entire four days talking about funnels. Talking about how funnels are the greatest thing. Everybody's like, what's a funnel? They're all taking notes. Me and Todd are like, does he know we're building? He's talking about funnels. He's talking about funnels like crazy. And then the next day everyone gets home from traffic and conversion and everybody that day, the next day 8,000 funnel consultants pop up. Everybody's a funnel consultant. Everyone is on Facebook talking about funnel consultants and teaching funnels and all this stuff. We're like, oh my gosh. Todd, get this software done, everybody's talking about funnels right now. So he's coding like crazy, all this stuff is coming around, all of a sudden everyone's like, millions of funnel consultants, everyone's doing it, and all of a sudden we're like, hey, we created this thing called ClickFunnels, here it is. All of a sudden all of the consultants and all the people and everyone came and we were the only platform. I look at that, as smart as I think I am, there is so much grace and timing. If I'd launched a year earlier, a year later, it would not have hit the way it did. 100% it was the timing of all these things that have to happen. If it wasn't for that ... I can act like I'm smart, I'm a genius, but man, there's so much divinity that came into all the things. There's no way it could happen without that. Anyway, just understanding those things. Matt: What did you learn when you were cycling? Russell: So many lessons. Russell, you are not that good looking. Or cool. Or anything. Matt: It's basically not about you, right? Yeah, I feel that. So what was hardest? What were the tough lessons? Caleb: How many times did you cycle? Russell: Two big ones for sure. Matt: Really? Do you mind sharing? Russell: Yeah, the first time was after I was trying to figure this thing out. I remember one of my buddies was like, you're making money online? I'm like, yeah. He's like, that's cool. I'm like, do you want a job? He's like, what? I'm like, you're the first person I know who's interested. I'll pay you to come hang out with me. He's like, all right. So I hired my friend. He's like, I have some friends too. I'm like, okay. So I start hiring all these people because I want someone to talk to. Anyway, it was really bad. I ended up having a whole bunch of employees nobody knew how to do anything. I didn't know how to train anybody. I was hiding in the room trying to make money to pay payroll while they're standing outside like, do you want us to do anything? I'm like, don't talk to me, I've got to make money to pay your payroll. They're like, we can help. I'm like, I don't have time to explain anything to you. It was horrible. I built it up to the point where it was just like, I was launching a new thing as fast as we could just to pay payroll. As an entrepreneur, you kill something you get to eat, right? It's like the greatest thing in the world. Employees, they want to get paid every two weeks whether they killed anything or not. I did not realize that until they were like we need money and I'm like, but we haven't made any money. They're like you have to pay me. I'm like, what? I'm so confused. Like, okay. Anyway, it had grown and we didn't have a model, sustainable. Speaker 3: You just launched stuff to see if it works? Russell: Yeah. When I was by myself it was like, I had an idea today, let's try it. You launch it, it makes some money, sweet. And then it was like, I made 20, 30 grand. It was my wife and I, so it was like, that lasts nine months. You know? Caleb: What did you sell? Obviously I know the potato gun backstory. You said I talked about funnels for like a decade before that. What were you selling during that decade leading up to ClickFunnels? I know it's an inordinate amount of stuff. Is there anything not even close to funnels, like something ... Russell: Yeah. The very first, pre-potato guns, my very first big idea was ... Back then what everyone was doing, you know who Yanik Silver is. Yanik would write a book and then he would sell the resale rights to the books. Someone else would buy it and they could sell it. I remember I got online, I saw these books, I bought a book from Yanik and I'm like, I can sell this. I bought a book from somebody else. I was buying all these eBooks I could sell. But then inside the books they would have links back to all their sites. I'd sell the book and I was like, I made 10 bucks selling the book. And then inside the book Yanik is selling his thousand dollar course and seminars and things. They make all this money. I'm like, I got 10 bucks. He made like $1,000 off of me selling his book. I remember being mad. I was like I wish there was a way I could brand this ebook so that before somebody opens it and sees his ad they'd see my ad. That was the first idea I ever had, ever. So my first product was called Zip Brander, it was this little thing that would take an ebook and it would brand it. You open it up and it popped up an ad. You see the ad and you click a button and it would take you inside the ebook. It was my first thing. We launched that and I sold 20 or 30 copies of it. But that was the first money I ever made, it was amazing. I had a customer list, I was like this is amazing. And then the way I was selling those, I was going to forums. This is pre-Facebook, so all you little kids, before Facebook, before MySpace, before Friendster, we used to go to these things called forums. They were these things where people would talk all day. So we'd go to these forums. One of the rules in the forums is you could comment all you wanted but you could have a signature file. At the end you could have like, Russel Brunson, check out my new software Zip Brander. I'd go to these forums and I would just spend eight hours a day answering questions and asking questions and everything. People see my ad on every little thing. My footer was on everything. That's how I was selling Zip Brander initially. I was in 50 forums posting like crazy but I couldn't keep up with it. I was like, man, if I could create a software that would manage this whole thing, that would be amazing. So my second product is called Forum Fortunes. It was this little software that would manage your posting on every single forum. You post and you could see if someone responded back on Forum 49 it would pop up and you're like, oh, you can go find it and go back and comment and keep the discussion. I made it for myself and then we started selling that. We sold more of those because I now had a little customer base here and went bigger. After that it was the next. It was always what's the next thing. That's kind of how it started back in the days, little tools and things like that. Speaker 3: How do you know when you're shooting all these bullets, how do you know when you shoot a cannonball? Matt: Good question. Russell: The thing about it initially, I had been married, I was making zero dollars a year as a wrestler, so for me to make $600 in a month, that was a cannonball. That was insane. I thought I was the coolest kid in the world. $600 was insane. So I did four or five little things. I remember it was Christmastime and I remember my wife wanted to buy a couch and it was a $2,000 couch. I was just like, oh, I can't afford that. I don't have a job. I'm getting sick to my stomach. I had this idea, what if I do a sell and just sell a whole bunch of crap that we had. I had a bunch of eBooks I bought rights to, a couple of things I had created, so we made this Grinch sale. I remember I wrote the copy, it was like, it was the Grinch Before Christmas or something. It had a picture of the Grinch and his heart growing three sizes, I don't know. I wrote this copy. My wife and I had been married a year, she really wants a couch, I can't afford a couch, so if you guys buy this, if I sell 32 of these things, I can buy her a couch and put it under the Christmas tree. It will be amazing. Caleb: You said that in the copy? Russell: In the copy, yeah. It was the reason why. I still have the page, I can show it to you. I know exactly where it's at, I can show it to you. So I had the whole page and then only an email list of like a couple hundred people at the time. I still had an affiliate program, so at the top it had an affiliate link. So I sent an email to my list and went to bed that night. Someone on my list was a guy named Carl Galletti, I haven't heard about Carl in a long time. He was a big famous copy writer at the time. Carl went and saw the thing, bought it, and started affiliating. So he joined the affiliate program, he was like this is awesome. He took that email, sent it to his entire list of this huge thing. So I go to bed. I wake up the next morning, we're at $10,000 in sales. Matt: How much before you went to bed? Russell: Oh, like $30, $40 or something. I was like, what just happened. Did I rob someone? I didn't know what happened. I looked at my email and there's all these people who were like, hey, I bought two of them, I hope you can get your wife that couch. Oh, I sent it to my friend. All these people. Because Carl promoted it, all these other people who follow Carl saw it. Carl is like it's converting like crazy. Tons of people are buying it. I'm freaking out. I'm going to wrestling practice trying to answer customer support. I'm late for practice, I ran into wrestling practice, I get back out I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I made like $600 in sales." I'm freaking out. Anyway, the whole thing goes through and over that, I think it was a seven day sale or something like that, we made $35,000. Which is more money than I'd seen in all my lifetime combined times 100, right? I paid probably 10 grand in affiliates. We made, I don't know, $25,000 that we got to keep. I was like, "Oh my gosh." I told Colette, and Colette's like, my wife. I love her. She doesn't understand the business part of things at all. I was like, "We made $25,000." She was like, "Is it illegal?" First thing. "Are you going to go to jail? Is it illegal?" I'm like, "No, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure." The first thing I did is I went and bought the couch for her, for Christmas. We got it back, I got a picture of her, sent it out to the list saying thank you so much, you got the Christmas gift, the couch. They all celebrated together, all the people. I was like oh my gosh, this is the greatest game of all time. This is so much fun. I was like, what's the next idea, what's the next thing. It was like that, these little things. After that one was done now I had way more customers, all these people that had bought my product knew who I was now so the next thing was easier so it incrementally kept growing and getting bigger. Somewhere along the line I launched the potato gun thing. Upsales of things. We didn't call them funnels back then. We called them sales flows or sales processes. Talk about your sales flow, what's your sales flow. Caleb: Sales flow. Russell: I remember Dylan Jones was our partner at ClickFunnels. Before Todd we tried to build something like ClickFunnels, we called it Click.com.com, which is a horrible name. But Dylan's, I still have all the UI images, and in there we had a whole section for sales flows and all these things. It's like, this was the first ClickFunnels. Because Dylan was on the UI eventually on ClickFunnels anyway, but we literally designed something like this five or six years earlier. Just crazy. Matt: Do you think that all those little failures and all the trying and that kind of energy is what brought you here today? Russell: For sure. It's the key. I wish I could grab everybody because everybody's like, okay, I'm waiting for my ClickFunnels, or I'm waiting for my thing. They're waiting and they're waiting and they're waiting. I was like, the reason why I got this thing was because I didn't wait. If someone were to give me ClickFunnels initially it would have been bankrupt in 15 minutes, right? You have to become worthy of the thing eventually. You don't become worthy by waiting, you become worthy by trying. And trying and trying and trying. Eventually, if you keep doing that, over time, then God's like, all right, he's going to do it. He's built 150 funnels, now I'll give him the idea. Matt: Wow, that's powerful. Speaker 3: How much more did you feel that all your other friends are in the same game? Matt: I hope you guys take there's more that's caught than Todd. That's some gold in what he just shared right there, what you were just sharing. But go ahead. What was the question? Speaker 3: I was just saying how much more would you fail if all your other friends were playing the same game? Russell: All my friends were like why are you launching more stuff? Why do you keep doing things? They do like one product launch a year. They got so annoyed. They were like, dude, stop doing stuff. I'm like, why would I stop doing this? This is so much fun. It was just confusing to me. Why don't you guys do more? Everyone, they make money they'd just be done. Caleb: Why would you keep doing more? Was it genuinely like one funnel away? Like this next funnel's the one. Were you just like you sold yourself on it, this is it, so you keep going? Or did you just really enjoy it? Russell: Well each one I thought was. Each one, every time I was so surprised, like this is amazing. That was the one. The next one's bigger. Oh my gosh, that was even better, who knew? And then I just kept going from there, you know what I mean? So I wasn't waiting for ClickFunnels or anything like that. I was just enjoying the journey every time. It was so exciting. Eventually it was like, oh crap, who knew that that was going to do what it did. Caleb: Was it all emails? Was there any ads or was there anything to scale the traffic? Russell: First 10 years was 100% emails, partnerships. There wasn't ads back then. I mean, there was Google ads, but the first initial Google slap happened about the time I was getting started. Prior to that a lot of guys I knew built their email list off of Google ads and then the slap happened. A lot of them had lists. I started getting to know those guys, going to events, meeting them, so that's how it started initially was tons of that. And then there was this big gap for years where paid ads weren't a thing. Some people did banner ads, but it wasn't consistent. It wasn't like it is nowadays. It was harder. You worked harder and all the stuff wasn't there. Mostly we focused on ... If you didn't have an email list, you weren't playing the game. It's like, who's got lists, how can you build lists, what can you do? Matt: You still think that's true to a degree? Russell: 100%. That's why the traffic seekers book was so important for me to write, I feel like, because most of the people in the game today have been blessed with Zuckerberg's simple Facebook ads that make the game easy. Matt: Wow. Russell: They've never focused on building lists. I was like, you guys, just so you know, Zuckerberg is going to screw us all. It's going to happen. Matt: Yeah. Caleb: It will happen. Russell: It's like, if you don't have a list you're all screwed. I've been through this for 18 years now, I've been through five or six cycles. I've seen people who made millions of dollars who now are not online. The people who have waded the storm the whole time are all the list builders. They're the ones who survived. 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Russell Brunson: What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. So I have got to ask you, what did you think about episode number one of the World Changers Roundtable? Hopefully, you loved it. There were so many things covered in that 42 minutes.

Anyway, we are moving on to the next part of this interview. As you know, this is going to be broken down into four parts because they kept me there, handcuffed to a table, until 3:00 AM. I'm just joking. They didn't really. But, the question was so intriguing, we were having so much fun, we just kept going and going until finally I was like, "I have to fly out in three hours. I need to get back to my hotel."

But now we're going to go dive into the second part. This next episode is probably another 30 to 40, 45 minutes or so as well. So these are some things we'll be covering in this one, which is really fun. We talk about, number one, why my business partner, Todd Dickerson, is so amazing, and hopefully give you ideas about if you're pursuing opportunities and trying to land your dream job or partnership or whatever. Number two, we talked about personality profiling, how we actually are hiring here at ClickFunnels. We talked about where my love for learning came from. We talked about transition for me, going from an athlete to a business person and a marketer.

We talked about some of the lessons I learned from Lindsey Stirling, things I was not expecting to hear from her that totally changed everything for me. We talked about people who intrigue me, my interest in health and bio hacking. We talked about is there anything that happens inside of this business that gets me as excited as what I felt in wrestling. We talked about what thing is close, but nothing actually has ever hit it. We talked about the first Two Comma Club Awards. We talked about how to upgrade your identity as you grow. We talked about the fact that you have to cycle and fail and rebuild in your businesses. We talked about the launch of ClickFunnels and how it wasn't just the fact that I was a genius, because I wasn't. There are so many things.

Talking about the grace of God and how it tied into the launch of ClickFunnels. We talked about some of my early products, like Zip Brander and Forum Fortunes. We talked about my Christmas Grinch sale, which was the very first big sale, big launch I ever did, to my little tiny list that made enough money to cover Christmas for my wife and I when we were first getting started. We talked about becoming worthy. We talked about list building, how it's better than buying ads, and a whole bunch of other things.

It's amazing, this could be 40 courses all wrapped into one super podcast episode. So if you liked the last episode, I think you're going to love this one as well. And I've got two more after this, coming back, going deeper into this conversation with the Roundtable of World Changers. So, that said, we're going to cue the theme song. When we come back, we'll dive right into the second section here of the interview.

Matt Maddix: Dave and Todd, I mean, just wow. Those dudes are like... But what about those guys?

Russell: So here's Todd's story. So the real long story short, I bought some software, it was coding Ruby on Rails, didn't know that. Bought this company with the last...

I didn't have the money. So I borrowed money, bought this company, coded on some platform we didn't know, and I was like, "Screw it," right? And I tried to hire people to fix it, nobody could fix this platform until finally I was leaving the office one day. I literally emailed the people saying, "Turn off the servers." We lost all of our money to this company. They shut it down. And I'm walking out of the office and I had this impression of like, "There could be someone on your email list who knows Ruby on Rails." I was like, "That's weird. I had a bunch of internet marketing nerds. There's no one that's like, 'Ruby on Rails...'"

Anyway. It was starting with the impression from God, I stopped, turned back around, set the computer to open back up, sent an email to my list. "If you know Ruby on Rails, I'm looking for a partner. I bought a software company and it's not working. Please send me a message." Send.

Matt: And that's all you said?

Russell: Yeah. And lo and behold, three years earlier, Todd bought some random thing from me, happened to be on my email list. He built the website three or four years earlier that was making six figures a year on autopilot. Hadn't worked in four years. Just hanging out relaxing with his wife and his daughter. And an email comes in and it says, "If you know Ruby on Rails, I'm looking for a partner." He's like, "I know Ruby on Rails. I can be Russell's partner." Emails me back. And at first I see him and his beautiful wife and I'm like, "There's no way he's a programmer. There's no way." That was literally my thought.

But he was the only person that responded back so I was like, "Okay, well, here's the login to the site. Fix it. I don't know what to do. I'm not a coder."

I went to bed, woke up the next morning. He's like, "Cool, I fixed the site. Plus I found this, this, and this. And I changed this. And I moved these things,", and all of this stuff. He's like, "It's working now. Do you have anything else you want to do together?"

I'm like, "Huh." And so I give him another project, another project. And for an entire year Todd and I worked together, and never once did he ever ask me for money, ever.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: Not a penny. And I remember he started finding Boise to work on a project together ...

Matt: You're telling me he worked for you for an entire year?

Russell: For free. More than a year.

Caleb Maddix: Why was that?

Russell: I don't know. I found out later. He'd gone to Robert Kiyosaki at this event and he said, "Find someone who's doing what you want to do and work for them for free." So he told me that years later. I didn't know that.

Matt: Todd, if you're watching dude. I love you man. You're legit.

Russell: And so he kept coming and he started coming to Boise and we started becoming friends. The smartest developer I've ever met. Literally the smartest person I've ever met. I'll go that far. Just genius. And he'd come out to Boise and we'd work on projects and ideas. We tried to launch a couple of things. None of them really worked. And we were just trying stuff. He was just always there, always serving, always doing stuff. And one day were in Boise and I was looking over his shoulder cause we're looking at stuff and I saw his email. And there's all these emails from some recruiting site or something. I was like, "What's that?" He's like, "Oh, it's people recruiting me for a Ruby job." And I was like, "Do you get a lot of those?" And he's like, "I get three or for a day." I'm like, "Really? Are they good offers?"

He's like, "I don't know. Let's check it out." He opened it up and the first one was like $400,000 a year starting salary. I'm like, "What?" The next one is $350,000. The next was 5 ... Insane things. I'm like, "Why don't you do that?" He's like, "I don't want to work for them. I want to be your partner man." I'm like, "What?" And then I all of a sudden had this realization that I hadn't paid him in a year. We didn't have much money at the time, we're still at the backside of a business failure when we met. I'm like, "I can pay you maybe $50,000 a year. Can I pay you that?" He's like, "Whatever." So I told our little bookkeeper, "Pay Todd $50,000 a year." And they're like, "Okay." So he did that and next year we're paying $50,000 a year. We're doing stuff and we have more things. Started to get a little success here and there. Making more money. Back in Boise again. And I'm like, "Can I pay you some more?" And he's like, "Whatever."

Matt: So he wasn't ever just asking?

Russell: Never in his life has he asked me for money. Ever. So we bumped it up to $100,000 a year because that's what we got, the year before that, after a year or two working together. And then, it was crazy, the day Leadpages got the first round of funding for $5,000,000, the same day Todd was flying to Boise. And he gets the email. It's east coast so he's two hours ahead. He's awake and on the plane, he sees the email, forwards it to me, and then jumps in the plane. He's flying for four hours.

I wake up. I see the email and I was like, "Leadpages? Got 5 ..." I was like, we built landing page software in the past. I was perplexed and angry. And then Todd lands. And Todd, he's a little guy, he comes into the office all angry. He's like, "Leadpages got 5 million!" He's like, "I can build Leadpages tonight. Do you want to build lead pages?"

I'm like, "Yeah. Let's compete with Leadpages." He's like, "All right."

Matt: No way. Dude. I love this.

Russell: This is like angry Todd. I love angry Todd. I like all Todds, but angry Todd is the best Todd.

Matt: Is it? Okay.

Russell: He's just pissed because he's like, "I can build this tonight. Everything thing they got we can have done tonight." So we're getting all ready. What should we call it and everything. And then he's like, "Wait, we're building this. You want to add anything else to it?" And I was like, "Oh. Yeah. What if it did this? And what if it did this?" And we spent a week in front of a white board saying, "What if it did?", and we mapped out ClickFunnels.

Matt: So you're talking about a week where you guys just locked in and you were just having fun. Just doodling and whatever.

Russell: Yeah. He's like, "Oh, I can do that. We can do that." We're brainstorming all sorts of stuff so we map the whole thing out.

Matt: Did you know at that moment you were onto something big? At that moment right there, when you guys were like ... Or was it just still like ...

Russell: All lot of people have tried something like that. I tried before other people tried. No one had done it. So I was kind of skeptical but Todd's like, "I can do this. This is easy." I'm like, "Okay because I tried it ..." He's like, "No dude, I can do it. This is easy." So I was, excuse me, optimistically hopeful because he's a genius but I was also nervous. But anyways, we map it out and then we bought Clickpros.com. I wanted to call it ClickFusion because I own ClickFusion, but we'd had three failed businesses called ClickFusion. All of them failed and Todd was like, "No. It's bad karma. We can't." I'm like, "But the logo is so cool dude."

Matt: I love it. You love the logo.

Russell: And he's like, "No, we can't." He's like, "It's got a jinx on it or something. We can't do that. You have to come up with a different name."

I was like, "But ClickFusion is the coolest name ever."

So we're trying things. Click everything and then ClickFunnels. We're like, "Ah." That was the thing. We're so excited

Matt: Who first said it? Do you remember? The words ClickFunnels.

Caleb: It's almost like God saying, "Let there be light."

Russell: I would assume it was me but I'm not positive. I'll have to ask Todd on that one.

Caleb: Well, when you said it, was it instant? Like fire?

Russell: It was insane, it was available.

Matt: Oh, you know that feeling, right? Checking domains. You're like… chills.

Russell: How has no one thought of this before? And so we got it and I remember I was driving him to the airport at the end of the week to take him back home. And we got to the airport. Boise airport, It's a small airport. So we pull up to the thing to get out and you can tell he's probably nervous waiting. And before we get out of the car he's like, "I really want to do this man. I'm excited." I'm like, "Me too. Me too."

He's like, "I don't want to do this like your employee though. I want to do it as your partner."

And in that moment, I was just like all the fear of ... I'd tried partners in the past. It hadn't worked. All this stuff and all the everything. And it was just this weird thing of just all the emotions were hitting me as he sat in the car, about to get out the car. I have 15, 20 seconds before he's going to to go. I was just thinking about him. I was like, he's never asked me for money. He's never done anything. He's served. He's given everything. I was just looking at him. I was like, "All right let's do it." He's like, "Cool." And he got out of the car and he's gone.

Matt: Wait a minute. So at that moment? Is was that quick?

Russell: That was it.

Matt: It was a gut feeling that you just knew. That he was ...

Russell: It was him. Yeah. And I was literally... I said this on stage at Funnel hacking live, outside of marrying my wife, it was the greatest decision I ever made.

Matt: Yeah. I remember you saying that with tears.

Russell: Yeah.

Matt: Why though? I'm curious because it's not just ClickFunnels.

Russell: He's amazing. If you look at our personality profiles, it's fascinating. We have the same personality profiles. The Myers-Briggs. Except for one letter's different. Where I'm a feeler he's a thinker. And it's been magical as a partnership because we both have so much respect for each other that we don't try to fight each other. And it's very much like if I wanted to do something, I'm like, "This is what I want to do. This what I'm feeling. What do you think?" And he'll come back and be like, "Well, I think this." And so I come up from feeling instead of thinking and it's really cool. So sometimes his thinking will trump my feeling. And I'm like, "You're actually right. Let's not do that." Or vice versa. Where he's like, "I'm thinking this." And I'm like, "I don't know why but I feel this." And he'll be like, "Okay."

He respects that. We just have such mutual respect that we've never been in a fight. We've never argued. We've never had problems. It's been amazing.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: And he's similar to like we talk about with Dan. He went back home after us white boarding that, sat in his basement for five or six months and built ClickFunnels by himself.

Caleb: Really just by himself?

Russell: 100% by himself.

Caleb: No other team. No other dev?

Russell: It was just him. And the right before we launched, we brought in another partner, Dylan, who built the front-end editor and did a lot of the UI. And so then it was those two as we got closer and closer to the launch. And then for the next year it was just those two that did everything. And then after a year, we started bringing in other developers. But it was 100% Todd.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: He's amazing. In all aspects. You know you have friends you think they know everything about everything. That's like Todd except he actually knows everything about everything. You ask him anything and he's just like ... I don't know how he does it. And I'll always fact check him, like, "Oh my gosh. He's right again." He's brilliant. It's amazing.

Matt: So for those of us who have partners or are maybe going into partnership, what's your best advice? And what do you feel like he does right that other partners don't do?

Russell: I think the hardest thing with partners is typically we want to partner with someone who is just like us. We did a podcast most recently. Dean, Tony and I, right? We've done two partnerships. Both partnerships made it through the launch and they stopped. Made it through the launch and stopped. The podcast was like, "Why?" I love Dean. I love Tony. They're amazing. The problem is that me and Dean had the exact same skill set.

Matt: Oh.

Russell: And so the problem is that both of us are right. We both understand it right, but we do it differently. And so it's like You have two people, and so typically you want to partner with those people who are like you. You're like, "Oh, we think the same. We should be partners." But that's not necessarily the right thing because then you've got two alphas with the same skillset, and someone has to win and someone has to lose. And it's hard. Whereas me and Todd, we have different skill sets. There is never a winner or a loser. We can both win because different skill sets, both the same mission. It's really easy.

So I think the biggest thing is you're trying to find the yin yang. You're not trying to find someone who thinks like you or acts like you. In fact, this is true in most hiring processes as well. I used to have people like, "Send me a video if you want this job." Right? So I get these videos, and the people that I wanted to hire were the people like me. I'm like, "This person's awesome. They think like me. They're a genius. They're amazing." You'll hire them, and within a week I'm like, "I hate this person." It's horrible. So we started shifting the way we do our hiring based on personality profiling instead. DISC profile drives most of my own personal hiring so I know that I'm a high D, high I, high S. No C at all. Right? And so the people I need to hire around me are high S, high C.

The problem is the people I who I watched their videos and I'm pumped, they're high D, high I. So I'm like, "Yeah. These people are awesome. They're charismatic. I'm going to love them. They're drivers, they're awesome. Worst employees ever.

Matt: Right.

Russell: Right? So when people send us this profile, first I find the right profile and then from there I do interviews. Because if I interview ahead of time I get sold by the people who sell and then they're horrible employees. And so I make sure they're high S high C, because I know that if I talk to high S high C, I'm going to be kind of bummed out. Like, "Oh, I don't know if this is the kind of person that I'm going to jive with." But they're the best people to surround myself with because I'm such a high D high S. I'm a creator. I'm throwing things up in the air and I need people who are S and C, who are faithful finishers, who are going to take the things, capture them, and make sure that it's amazing.

Matt: Do you feel like businesses and entrepreneurs are making a mistake by not having their employees and their team take these tests?

Russell: 100%. I have a new company we're launching all about personality profiling because I'm such a big believer in it.

Matt: Really? Tell me why. Top three reasons.

Russell: It's in all things in life. If you're going to be a partner. If you're going to date someone. Understanding who they are is such a big part of it. Right? Because we think everyone sees the world the same way we see it and it is not true at all. The way you see it, the way we all see is so different and so if we don't understand that at a deep level, then I get upset by what you do and at what everyone's doing because it's like, "Don't you see what I see?" And the reality is no they don't. So if you start understanding people better ...

In fact, the software can be called Understand About Me. It's a place you go and you take all the personality profiling and it gives you a page that can show somebody this is me. So in five seconds I can understand you perfectly they're like, "Oh, now I know how to work with you." Because I understand what you are, what your beliefs are, what your values, all the things I need to know about you, I can find it really quickly. Where normally you're going to go years with somebody before you understand them. I can look at a thing and get pretty dang close in a minute.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: Now I know hot interact with you and spend time with you and work with you. Things like that.

Caleb: Question. Where does your love to learn come from? Because one of the things I noticed from being around you, it's always like yeah, so I had this moment where I geeked on this and I geeked out on this. It was health and suppliments, and marketing and personality types. There's all these different things you geek out on. Have you always been that way? Is it like you geek out on marketing, you saw the rewards from it, and you're like, "Wow, what if this goes into other areas?" Where does that come from?

Russell: Yeah, I didn't always have my life. In fact, I had a fascinating conversation with Tom Bilyeu about this, because when I was growing up in high school I always thought I was a dumb kid. I thought I was an athlete, so I focused there. I thought I was an athlete, so I was a wrestler, that was my identity, that was where I focused at. I thought I was dumb. Because of that, straight C student high school and college, my cumulative GPA graduating from college was 2.3. Straight C's and one B maybe somewhere in there, right? Because I was a dumb kid.

When I got done I ended my wrestling career, so I stopped being an athlete, and I was like, "Oh crap." I started to learn this business stuff and I don't like to read. I'm a dumb kid. What do I do? It was fascinating. Tom told me, because I had this epiphany, I'm not actually dumb. He's like, "Actually, the reality is you probably really were dumb. But then you changed, right?" So for me it was like I shifted. It was fascinating.

Do you remember the Funnel Hacking Live where we had Lindsay Stirling perform? One of my favorite parts of that, she did a whole performance. If you guys don't know, Lindsay does violin dancing stuff, and afterwards I had a Q and A with her afterwards. I had this question I was so pumped to ask. I was waiting for her just to like, the question is, she was on America's Got Talent, and I think she took 7th place. When she got kicked off, Pierce Bronson or whatever said, "You've got no talent. You're no good." Whatever, right?

So I was like, do you remember that time when he said that? What I thought she was going to say was, "Yeah, I proved him wrong. Yeah." I was like, "What did you feel after that?" She's like, "Yeah, I got home and I realized he was right. I wasn't very good. So I went back and I started practicing and I started working harder and eventually I became good enough." It was like, oh my gosh. I got chills when I was saying it again.

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: I remember when Tom said it to me, he was like, "You probably were dumb." I was like, "I was." Because I wasn't reading things. So with marketing that was the first thing for some reason that caught my attention, that got me excited, right? And then if you look at my DISC profile, ROI is my highest value. I have to see ROI in something or I don't want to do it. So when I saw an ROI on this reading, I was like, "Oh my gosh. I read a book, I got one little sentence, changed a color, made more money. Oh my gosh." That is where it started, 100%.

I started learning that and I started getting obsessed with those things. As this business grew for me I started being more, I always joke that crazy people got attracted to me, right? The best health people, the best fitness people, the best in every market kind of came into our world somehow. So I started getting to meet all these people. When you're around someone who's the best in the world at the thing, and they start talking about the thing, you can't help but be like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." Right? You zone in on that. So whenever I meet someone that's amazing and I have a chance to talk to them like this I just geek out.

Like when I met your dad the first time with you guys. That's when I bought your parenting course and everything. I was just like, I saw you and I saw him and I was like, "I want that." So I started going down that rabbit hole, right? I met Anthony DiClementi, I was like, "I love this guy. I have respect for him, I love him." Every time he talks about anything, he fascinates me, when he talks about something it fascinates me. I have to look down those things, right? When people fascinate me, the things that fascinate them start fascinating me and that's when I kind of go down those rabbit holes. This person is so intriguing and fascinating. What makes them that way? What are they doing.

It's interesting. I'm not a good question asker. You guys are so good at question askers. I've never been good at asking questions, but I'm really good at watching what people do and then seeing it and trying to go down the rabbit hole. What are they doing, why are they doing it, that kind of thing.

Caleb: He’s a true master in it. You can just tell. What are some things you want to take the time to geek out on? I'm sure you see something and you're like I want to get on that but it's not a priority, I've got to do this. What are some things, if I had a week or two?

Russell: Just free time with nothing else involved?

Caleb: What's the next thing you're going to geek out on?

Russell: Oh. I would say every probably three years I get re-excited about SEO, for some reason. I start going down that path again, because I love it. There's times in my business when that was the focused. It's not now at all, but I went through a couple ... Brian Dean’s a real cool SEO guy, couple guys… I started dabbing my toe in again and I'm like, I just want to get back into it so bad. Right now SEO is actually our number 11 lead source as of today in ClickFunnels, which is amazing. So we handed SEO the first four or five years, now we're focused on it again. It's doing really well for us. I want to go deep there because I like that. Anyway, I haven't had a chance to do that. Any of the health stuff really, really fascinates me.

Matt: Why? I'm curious. Why are you drawn to that so much? The health stuff.

Russell: Because I've seen with myself ... My history is I got in wrestling, at the PAC 10 tournament was my last actual wrestling match. My wife was giving herself fertility shots in the stomach during PAC 10 so the next month se was pregnant. So I got done wrestling, got done competing, got done running, got done lifting. All my athletic career ended, and then my wife got pregnant. She's eating for three kids, and I'm pumped because I don't have to work out right now, she's hungry, I'm hungry, we're eating. We just kept eating and eating. So over the next seven to eight months my wife gained like 60 pounds, I gained like 60 pounds. We were doing it together so who cared, it was amazing. Then one day she has two babies and she loses like 45 pounds and I'm like, oh crap. I'm stuck here. Where did you go? This for me?

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: Thank you. Then at that time the business was starting and I was stressed out trying to figure it out and I didn't get healthy again. I just was in that state of being 65 pounds heavier for years. But I didn't know the difference, I didn't know that I felt differently, because I'd never been in a spot where I spent eight hours sitting behind a computer, so I didn't know what good felt like or bad felt like. I knew if I tried to wrestle I'd puke, so I was like I don't feel like I'm an athlete. I just felt normal, I thought.

Eight years in I was like, I don't know, I looked at myself in the mirror and I was like, "Oh, what happened to you?" You know what I mean? I'm sure hopefully everybody's had a chance. I was like, huh. It was hard because in my head I knew how to work out, I knew how to train, I knew these things. Finally I was like, "I need to get a trainer."

So I got a trainer for the first time. I'd never really done that before. Started going, and got me from I don't even know, 27, 28% body fat down to 12% in a matter of seven or eight months. I looked better, I felt better, but what's crazy is I could work twice as hard and twice as long. I wasn't tired. I was like, "I can keep going. My brain's on fire. This is amazing."

Matt: Wow. Just from the ...

Russell: I had no idea until I lost all the weight. All of a sudden it was just like, I can do so much more. I think, when I first met Anthony DiClementi the first time I was like, this is my problem right now. I am at work all day slaying dragons, doing all these things, I have this energy. I get home at night and my two little twin boys are there, and my little daughter, and I'm spent and I have no energy. How do I still be a present dad and how do I have these things?

The next tier was the bio hacking stuff. How do you do these things? How do you increase energy? There's so many ways to do that, from light therapy to supplements to sleeping to sound to breath, all these crazy things that seem stupid. The first time Anthony's like, "We're going to do breath work." I'm like, "We're going to breathe? That's your bio hack? We're going to breathe together?" He's like, "Yeah, it's going to be amazing." I'm like super annoyed. What's the ROI on this, I've got to get back to work.

So he sat me down in our gym. You've been in our wrestling room. He sat me down and he's like, "You have to sit because if you're standing you'll hit your head and you'll die." I'm like, what are you talking about? He sits me down and we do these breathing exercises where he's yelling at us and screaming. All this stuff is happening. If anyone's ever done deep breath work it's nuts.

We're doing this thing where we're supposed to do this heavy, heavy breath work until he's like, what's going to happen is the world is going to ... Has anybody done jiu-jitsu here? Been tapped out before?

Matt: Yeah.

Russell: So you get choked out. What will happen, the carotid artery gets choked and the world starts shrinking like this. If you take pressure off it, it comes back to life. If you don't, it goes darker and darker until it disappears and you're gone, right? If you've never been choked out, that's what happens. It's a really fun experience. But you have the minute when you see it shrinking around you and then it's gone, right?

He told me that's what's going to happen. You're going to breathe so much that the world around you is going to start shrinking. If you don't stop you're going to pass out. So we go all the way to where it starts shrinking, stops, and then when you hit that point you let me know and then you hold your breath for as long as you can. He's like, "How long can you hold your breath for?" I'm like, "Maybe a minute." He's like, "You'll do it for at least five." I was like, there's no way.

So he says sit down, we're doing this breath thing, we're going like crazy and sure enough the walls start doing weird stuff. I feel like I'm on drugs. I'm sweating like crazy. We keep doing it. He's yelling at me. All of a sudden the world starts closing around me, I'm like, "What is happening?" And then he stops and is like, "Hold your breath." He starts the clock. I'm sitting here holding my breath forever, looking around. We had three or four of us guys all doing it at the same time. I'm freaking out. And then it starts getting quieter, things are slowing down, we're sitting there and then he's like let some of the pressure out but don't breathe in. Let pressure out, pressure out, pressure out, keep doing that, and it gets done and the stop clock is over five minutes. I'm just like, I just held my breath for five minutes.

Matt: And you didn't even know it.

Russell: Insane. And then the rest of the day we were on fire. It was just like, whoa. Right? We brought a cryo-sauna at our house and we go freeze in the cryo-sauna and the rest of the day you just feel ... That's the thing I love now, these little weird things. Light therapy, breathing, weird things that just seem stupid. You do it and you can go longer, you can think better, you can do stuff. All those things just get me so excited.

Anthony's fun because he randomly will just ship me weird stuff in the mail. Just the weirdest things. It makes my wife so mad. It just shows up. There's a big old box. She's like, what's this from? I'm like, I'm hoping it's from Anthony, it's going to be amazing. Just weird things. Tons of stuff.

I love that kind of stuff because the ROI on it is crazy. They're always these weird things. I have this headband someone sent me. You put this headband on, you put an app on and you start working and it just makes you not tired, makes you focused. These weird things. How does this work? I don't know. And they're like oh, it works because the waves over here sync your brain and change your brain waves and the creative state and all these things. I mean, I don't know how it works but I just wrote two chapters.

Caleb: Do you do breath work every day?

Russell: No, because it's so intense. If I had a coach who could walk me through it. I have a recording of Anthony doing it and I almost dread it because I know how hard it is. By the time you're done you're sweating.

Caleb: I've got to get that recording.

Russell: I'll get it to you. By the time you're sweating, you're like what just happened? I just breathed for five minutes. It's weird. Anyway, I would love to understand it on a deeper level but I don't understand a lot of the things now. Some of them I've gone deep on, but a lot of them I do without knowing why. I hate it because my wife will be like, "What's this do?" And I'm like, I don't know.

Matt: Just love it.

Russell: One of my buddies, Preston Eli, he wrote this blog post, he called it the Warriornaire Workout. In there he explains part of his morning workout. He's like, why do I do it? He's like, because Tony Robins does, and I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence. That quote goes to my head all the time. People ask me, why do you do that? I'm like, because I obey all giants who fly helicopters and have stage presence, that's it. I'm like, I don't know the reason why, Tony says so, therefore I will do it. I would like to understand it at a deeper level so I have a better response than I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. But that's a pretty good reason. Anyway.

Matt: Real quick, does anybody else want to throw in a question for Russell? Anybody else here live with us?

Caleb: Let me ask one more real fast. Because I want to. I want to ask this. We were just having sushi, I was asking you, what are some of the favorite periods of your life? One of them you said was wrestling, which I found funny because by far one of my favorite periods is baseball, which people wouldn't expect because obviously I've been on stage and all this other stuff and that should take the cake. But those moments when you're just on the field, you're in the zone, there's nothing better. Where, with what you get to do now, whether it's being live on a webinar or being on stage or whatever it is, where do you get the same feeling of wrestling? Do you know what I mean? You know, the feeling in your chest?

Russell: Today while we were in line at the grocery store I talked to your dad about this. I said that the best feelings I ever had in my life were from wrestling. The feeling of winning a hard match that I wasn't supposed to win and getting your hand raised, I never felt something like that, that felt as good as that, ever. I've been searching in business to find that, and I've never found it.

Speaker 3: Do you feel like sports is like business in any sense?

Matt: Good question.

Russell: For sure, yeah. There's a lot, for sure. What I was going to say is the closest I've ever gotten to feeling that is when you serve at an event and you see a table rush and you see not only people where they get the a-ha, but enough of an a-ha where it gets them to get up and to move. That's the closest I've ever felt to that. It's not as good, but it's the closest I've ever felt to that. Which is why I love doing the big things. I get a glimpse of that.

Caleb: How close? Scale of one to 10. Wrestling's a 10. Where does that rank?

Russell: If wrestling's a 10, I'd say it's about an eight. In fact it's interesting because when I first started in business I was racing for that, trying to find it, trying to find it, trying to find it. It took me years before I was like ...

Matt: Is it disappointing?

Russell: For sure, yeah. We launch today and make a million dollars and it's like, huh. That sucked. What else have we got. Give me something else.

Matt: Exactly.

Russell: The money goal is always what I thought was going to be the thing, and those always were just like, huh. In fact, literally one of the main reasons I did the Two Comma Club Awards, for me I need, maybe it's just from a decade of my life someone grabbing my hand and raising it. I was like, entrepreneurs need that. No one raises our hands. Two Comma Club Awards, for me, is me lifting their hands like you did it. I needed that, they need that. That's one of the main reasons I did that, because that's the equivalent of that. Anyway.

Matt: How many millionaires have you created?

Russell: This year we passed 1,000 people that won the two comma club award. We're over 120.

Matt: How does it feel to say that? To say it? You know how sometimes it's like so many people that have passion or goals or huge dreams and visions, rarely do they really celebrate what's happening on the journey. Do you find yourself ever getting where your vision is so big and your passion is so deep that even saying things like there's 1,000 millionaires. Dude, that's huge. Man, 1,000 people that are millionaires because of you.

Russell: I think the first time I really got that, probably the most impactful time, was the very first Funnel Hacking live that we gave away Two Comma Club Awards. It was the third Funnel Hacking live. It was a couple of months before that we had the idea of a Two Comma Club and an award, talking about that. I legitimately didn't know. I wonder if anyone in ClickFunnels has actually made a million dollars. I don't even know. So Dave went back and the database guys went through everything and I remember he came back and was like, there's 79 people right now that made a million dollars. I was just like, are you serious?

Matt: Was it a boost of confidence? What did it do for you?

Russell: It was one of those things, looking back on me doing these events where two people showed up and nobody showed up, hardly anybody, where I was so excited about this? I was like, how come nobody cares? To now it was like, this is actually, I've talked about this long enough people are believing it and now they're doing it. You start seeing it, and there's the fruits of it. In my mind I was like a million bucks, even then, ClickFunnel was new, I was like a million dollars is hard. Most of my friends I knew were like made somewhere near a million dollars. There were people who have been in this business for a long time. A million bucks is a big deal. That was most people's goal still.

The fact that 79 people had done it, that was just weird to me. I think that was the biggest one, the realization that just like, oh my gosh. It's not just a theory and I think it works, it's working. It's working at a scale that was unfathomable to me at the time. 79 people. To go to 200 and then 500 and then 1,000 is crazy.

Matt: What was your question, buddy?

Speaker 4: You're talking about how at each level of success you hit, some of your mentors hit that ceiling, right? Because of the posturing, right? So ultimately I feel like when you get to a new level of success it requires you to upgrade your identity, your self image. What have you found is the number one routine, what's your process for upgrading the identity, upgrading your self image? Because I think that's so important because it can either hold you back and have you self sabotage and not take action and go after what you want, or it's going to be the thing that keeps you at that level and continues to propel you forward. What's kept you ...

Russell: That's good. It's weaved through everything, right? The one that's the most obvious external, especially in our world, because you see marketers, most people when they first start selling whatever it is they're selling they're bragging about themselves. Here's my ad, here's my name. It's all about them, that's the first tier of it. And then the second tier, when they start having the realization, I feel like is when they stop talking about themselves and start talking about the people they've helped.

Speaker 4: Mm.

Russell: You see externally. You don't hear me talking about how much money I make. I'm not like, oh, check out what I got. I talk about all the other people. It's like, that's next year, is that. And then for me the third tier now, which has been really cool, is talking about Lady Boss, right? The success story isn't Kailin, it's Kailin's customers, right? So it's like that next tier. What you're talking about is like the external version of that. There's a lot of internal things that you've got to deal with, but you'll notice it shifting in people when you look at just their messaging and what they're saying. From the way they podcast, they video, they market, their ads and everything, it's the shift of it's not about me, it's about them. It's not even about them, that's the external version of it.

Internally I think it's really, it's what we talked about, I can't remember why, but we brought up yesterday or today I had this really successful guy I met one time who the first time we met he was like tell me your story. So I was telling him the wrestle posturing story about how great I was. He was like, no. Tell me about the time you failed. So I was like, well, I'm in the middle of one right now. So I told him let me tell you. I told this whole thing. I remember afterwards I was so embarrassed. He's going to think I'm an idiot. You know, that fear? He was like, good, you cycled. I was like, what? He was like, I will not work with entrepreneurs who haven't cycled at least once. Because if they haven't then they still believe their own bio, right?

I think that's the biggest thing, the internal version is that. The first time around, before you cycle, you think it's all you. I know for me it was. I remember doing this the first time, I'm like, I am a genius. I'm the smartest guy in the world. And then when it collapsed I was like, oh, there's a lot of things outside my control. This is not me. There is a team, there's God, there's all these other things that are making this possible. There's a scripture, I can't remember where it's at, it's the Bible, Book of Mormon, but it says you can either be humble or God will humble ... Ah, I'm misquoting it by far. But it's like God will humble people. You can be humble or he will humble you. So it's like, looking at that, I'm like round two I'm going to be a humble person because I don't want to be humbled again, right?

Matt: I still feel it.

Russell: This is not me. I understand, I look around now and it's 100% like there's no way I would be where I am right now if Dan Usher didn't make videos the way he does. There's no way I'd be here right now if Todd Dickerson could not code software the way he does. There's no way, all these things are so many people.

Matt: You're so right.

Russell: Then there's so many success stories that inside of it there's just so many people. And then there's the grace of God. I just look at the timeline of when ClickFunnels came into the market. I've now got funnels for a decade, nobody cared. Then all these things were happening, we started having the idea for ClickFunnels, started building it, we're creating it, and then literally we go to traffic and conversion, Todd's halfway done building ClickFunnels, and Ryan Deiss stands on stage in the biggest event at the time and he spends the entire four days talking about funnels. Talking about how funnels are the greatest thing.

Everybody's like, what's a funnel? They're all taking notes. Me and Todd are like, does he know we're building? He's talking about funnels. He's talking about funnels like crazy. And then the next day everyone gets home from traffic and conversion and everybody that day, the next day 8,000 funnel consultants pop up. Everybody's a funnel consultant. Everyone is on Facebook talking about funnel consultants and teaching funnels and all this stuff. We're like, oh my gosh. Todd, get this software done, everybody's talking about funnels right now. So he's coding like crazy, all this stuff is coming around, all of a sudden everyone's like, millions of funnel consultants, everyone's doing it, and all of a sudden we're like, hey, we created this thing called ClickFunnels, here it is.

All of a sudden all of the consultants and all the people and everyone came and we were the only platform. I look at that, as smart as I think I am, there is so much grace and timing. If I'd launched a year earlier, a year later, it would not have hit the way it did. 100% it was the timing of all these things that have to happen. If it wasn't for that ... I can act like I'm smart, I'm a genius, but man, there's so much divinity that came into all the things. There's no way it could happen without that. Anyway, just understanding those things.

Matt: What did you learn when you were cycling?

Russell: So many lessons. Russell, you are not that good looking. Or cool. Or anything.

Matt: It's basically not about you, right? Yeah, I feel that. So what was hardest? What were the tough lessons?

Caleb: How many times did you cycle?

Russell: Two big ones for sure.

Matt: Really? Do you mind sharing?

Russell: Yeah, the first time was after I was trying to figure this thing out. I remember one of my buddies was like, you're making money online? I'm like, yeah. He's like, that's cool. I'm like, do you want a job? He's like, what? I'm like, you're the first person I know who's interested. I'll pay you to come hang out with me. He's like, all right.

So I hired my friend. He's like, I have some friends too. I'm like, okay. So I start hiring all these people because I want someone to talk to. Anyway, it was really bad. I ended up having a whole bunch of employees nobody knew how to do anything. I didn't know how to train anybody. I was hiding in the room trying to make money to pay payroll while they're standing outside like, do you want us to do anything? I'm like, don't talk to me, I've got to make money to pay your payroll. They're like, we can help. I'm like, I don't have time to explain anything to you. It was horrible. I built it up to the point where it was just like, I was launching a new thing as fast as we could just to pay payroll.

As an entrepreneur, you kill something you get to eat, right? It's like the greatest thing in the world. Employees, they want to get paid every two weeks whether they killed anything or not. I did not realize that until they were like we need money and I'm like, but we haven't made any money. They're like you have to pay me. I'm like, what? I'm so confused. Like, okay. Anyway, it had grown and we didn't have a model, sustainable.

Speaker 3: You just launched stuff to see if it works?

Russell: Yeah. When I was by myself it was like, I had an idea today, let's try it. You launch it, it makes some money, sweet. And then it was like, I made 20, 30 grand. It was my wife and I, so it was like, that lasts nine months. You know?

Caleb: What did you sell? Obviously I know the potato gun backstory. You said I talked about funnels for like a decade before that. What were you selling during that decade leading up to ClickFunnels? I know it's an inordinate amount of stuff. Is there anything not even close to funnels, like something ...

Russell: Yeah. The very first, pre-potato guns, my very first big idea was ... Back then what everyone was doing, you know who Yanik Silver is. Yanik would write a book and then he would sell the resale rights to the books. Someone else would buy it and they could sell it. I remember I got online, I saw these books, I bought a book from Yanik and I'm like, I can sell this. I bought a book from somebody else. I was buying all these eBooks I could sell. But then inside the books they would have links back to all their sites. I'd sell the book and I was like, I made 10 bucks selling the book. And then inside the book Yanik is selling his thousand dollar course and seminars and things. They make all this money. I'm like, I got 10 bucks. He made like $1,000 off of me selling his book. I remember being mad. I was like I wish there was a way I could brand this ebook so that before somebody opens it and sees his ad they'd see my ad. That was the first idea I ever had, ever.

So my first product was called Zip Brander, it was this little thing that would take an ebook and it would brand it. You open it up and it popped up an ad. You see the ad and you click a button and it would take you inside the ebook. It was my first thing. We launched that and I sold 20 or 30 copies of it. But that was the first money I ever made, it was amazing. I had a customer list, I was like this is amazing. And then the way I was selling those, I was going to forums. This is pre-Facebook, so all you little kids, before Facebook, before MySpace, before Friendster, we used to go to these things called forums. They were these things where people would talk all day. So we'd go to these forums. One of the rules in the forums is you could comment all you wanted but you could have a signature file. At the end you could have like, Russel Brunson, check out my new software Zip Brander.

I'd go to these forums and I would just spend eight hours a day answering questions and asking questions and everything. People see my ad on every little thing. My footer was on everything. That's how I was selling Zip Brander initially. I was in 50 forums posting like crazy but I couldn't keep up with it. I was like, man, if I could create a software that would manage this whole thing, that would be amazing. So my second product is called Forum Fortunes. It was this little software that would manage your posting on every single forum. You post and you could see if someone responded back on Forum 49 it would pop up and you're like, oh, you can go find it and go back and comment and keep the discussion. I made it for myself and then we started selling that. We sold more of those because I now had a little customer base here and went bigger. After that it was the next. It was always what's the next thing. That's kind of how it started back in the days, little tools and things like that.

Speaker 3: How do you know when you're shooting all these bullets, how do you know when you shoot a cannonball?

Matt: Good question.

Russell: The thing about it initially, I had been married, I was making zero dollars a year as a wrestler, so for me to make $600 in a month, that was a cannonball. That was insane. I thought I was the coolest kid in the world. $600 was insane. So I did four or five little things. I remember it was Christmastime and I remember my wife wanted to buy a couch and it was a $2,000 couch. I was just like, oh, I can't afford that. I don't have a job. I'm getting sick to my stomach.

I had this idea, what if I do a sell and just sell a whole bunch of crap that we had. I had a bunch of eBooks I bought rights to, a couple of things I had created, so we made this Grinch sale. I remember I wrote the copy, it was like, it was the Grinch Before Christmas or something. It had a picture of the Grinch and his heart growing three sizes, I don't know. I wrote this copy. My wife and I had been married a year, she really wants a couch, I can't afford a couch, so if you guys buy this, if I sell 32 of these things, I can buy her a couch and put it under the Christmas tree. It will be amazing.

Caleb: You said that in the copy?

Russell: In the copy, yeah. It was the reason why. I still have the page, I can show it to you. I know exactly where it's at, I can show it to you. So I had the whole page and then only an email list of like a couple hundred people at the time. I still had an affiliate program, so at the top it had an affiliate link. So I sent an email to my list and went to bed that night. Someone on my list was a guy named Carl Galletti, I haven't heard about Carl in a long time. He was a big famous copy writer at the time. Carl went and saw the thing, bought it, and started affiliating. So he joined the affiliate program, he was like this is awesome. He took that email, sent it to his entire list of this huge thing. So I go to bed. I wake up the next morning, we're at $10,000 in sales.

Matt: How much before you went to bed?

Russell: Oh, like $30, $40 or something. I was like, what just happened. Did I rob someone? I didn't know what happened. I looked at my email and there's all these people who were like, hey, I bought two of them, I hope you can get your wife that couch. Oh, I sent it to my friend. All these people. Because Carl promoted it, all these other people who follow Carl saw it. Carl is like it's converting like crazy. Tons of people are buying it.

I'm freaking out. I'm going to wrestling practice trying to answer customer support. I'm late for practice, I ran into wrestling practice, I get back out I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I made like $600 in sales." I'm freaking out. Anyway, the whole thing goes through and over that, I think it was a seven day sale or something like that, we made $35,000. Which is more money than I'd seen in all my lifetime combined times 100, right?

I paid probably 10 grand in affiliates. We made, I don't know, $25,000 that we got to keep. I was like, "Oh my gosh." I told Colette, and Colette's like, my wife. I love her. She doesn't understand the business part of things at all. I was like, "We made $25,000." She was like, "Is it illegal?" First thing. "Are you going to go to jail? Is it illegal?" I'm like, "No, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure."

The first thing I did is I went and bought the couch for her, for Christmas. We got it back, I got a picture of her, sent it out to the list saying thank you so much, you got the Christmas gift, the couch. They all celebrated together, all the people. I was like oh my gosh, this is the greatest game of all time. This is so much fun. I was like, what's the next idea, what's the next thing. It was like that, these little things. After that one was done now I had way more customers, all these people that had bought my product knew who I was now so the next thing was easier so it incrementally kept growing and getting bigger. Somewhere along the line I launched the potato gun thing. Upsales of things.

We didn't call them funnels back then. We called them sales flows or sales processes. Talk about your sales flow, what's your sales flow.

Caleb: Sales flow.

Russell: I remember Dylan Jones was our partner at ClickFunnels. Before Todd we tried to build something like ClickFunnels, we called it Click.com.com, which is a horrible name. But Dylan's, I still have all the UI images, and in there we had a whole section for sales flows and all these things. It's like, this was the first ClickFunnels. Because Dylan was on the UI eventually on ClickFunnels anyway, but we literally designed something like this five or six years earlier. Just crazy.

Matt: Do you think that all those little failures and all the trying and that kind of energy is what brought you here today?

Russell: For sure. It's the key. I wish I could grab everybody because everybody's like, okay, I'm waiting for my ClickFunnels, or I'm waiting for my thing. They're waiting and they're waiting and they're waiting. I was like, the reason why I got this thing was because I didn't wait. If someone were to give me ClickFunnels initially it would have been bankrupt in 15 minutes, right? You have to become worthy of the thing eventually. You don't become worthy by waiting, you become worthy by trying. And trying and trying and trying. Eventually, if you keep doing that, over time, then God's like, all right, he's going to do it. He's built 150 funnels, now I'll give him the idea.

Matt: Wow, that's powerful.

Speaker 3: How much more did you feel that all your other friends are in the same game?

Matt: I hope you guys take there's more that's caught than Todd. That's some gold in what he just shared right there, what you were just sharing. But go ahead. What was the question?

Speaker 3: I was just saying how much more would you fail if all your other friends were playing the same game?

Russell: All my friends were like why are you launching more stuff? Why do you keep doing things? They do like one product launch a year. They got so annoyed. They were like, dude, stop doing stuff. I'm like, why would I stop doing this? This is so much fun. It was just confusing to me. Why don't you guys do more? Everyone, they make money they'd just be done.

Caleb: Why would you keep doing more? Was it genuinely like one funnel away? Like this next funnel's the one. Were you just like you sold yourself on it, this is it, so you keep going? Or did you just really enjoy it?

Russell: Well each one I thought was. Each one, every time I was so surprised, like this is amazing. That was the one. The next one's bigger. Oh my gosh, that was even better, who knew? And then I just kept going from there, you know what I mean? So I wasn't waiting for ClickFunnels or anything like that. I was just enjoying the journey every time. It was so exciting. Eventually it was like, oh crap, who knew that that was going to do what it did.

Caleb: Was it all emails? Was there any ads or was there anything to scale the traffic?

Russell: First 10 years was 100% emails, partnerships. There wasn't ads back then. I mean, there was Google ads, but the first initial Google slap happened about the time I was getting started. Prior to that a lot of guys I knew built their email list off of Google ads and then the slap happened. A lot of them had lists. I started getting to know those guys, going to events, meeting them, so that's how it started initially was tons of that. And then there was this big gap for years where paid ads weren't a thing. Some people did banner ads, but it wasn't consistent. It wasn't like it is nowadays. It was harder. You worked harder and all the stuff wasn't there. Mostly we focused on ... If you didn't have an email list, you weren't playing the game. It's like, who's got lists, how can you build lists, what can you do?

Matt: You still think that's true to a degree?

Russell: 100%. That's why the traffic seekers book was so important for me to write, I feel like, because most of the people in the game today have been blessed with Zuckerberg's simple Facebook ads that make the game easy.

Matt: Wow.

Russell: They've never focused on building lists. I was like, you guys, just so you know, Zuckerberg is going to screw us all. It's going to happen.

Matt: Yeah.

Caleb: It will happen.

Russell: It's like, if you don't have a list you're all screwed. I've been through this for 18 years now, I've been through five or six cycles. I've seen people who made millions of dollars who now are not online. The people who have waded the storm the whole time are all the list builders. They're the ones who survived. Everyone else who's good at ads, they come and they go and they come and they go.

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]]> 3211 no The Roundtable of World Changers (Part 1 of 4) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-roundtable-of-world-changers-part-1-of-4 The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part one of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 31 May 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Roundtable of World Changers (Part 1 of 4) full 418 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part one of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter... The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part one of this special 4 part episode series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The roundtable interview with Matt and Caleb Maddix and a small group of people who are trying to change the world. Enjoy part one of this special 4 part episode series.

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]]> 3080 no LIVE Q&A: The Real Secret Behind The Value Ladder (Part 2) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/live-qa-the-real-secret-behind-the-value-ladder-part-2 Register for the next LIVE episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody. It's Russell. Welcome back. I hope you liked the last episode. What you think about a live version of the marketing secret show? Anyway I hope you guys enjoyed it. First off, I think it brings a different energy level. When I know it's live, I got to show off to all the people I get to see their faces. It's hopefully you guys enjoyed that part of it. And hopefully, went to clubhousewithrussell.com and when registered so that you, that way, when we do the next live podcast, you can be on it. So that's the first thing. And then number two is, this episode we're actually going to share the Q and A's, there's about 40 minutes of Q and A with people who were there. And so in the future, if you want me to answer your questions, like, come on the show, go to the clubhouse with russell.com register, show up on the show, and then I'll talk about a concept and then we'll open the lines for Q and A. And you see some people got hot seats coaching sessions during this Q and A, which is really fun. But I think the reason I want to share these with you here, because I think most of the conversations that happened, there's something that each of you could learn from those conversations. So I hope you enjoy it. And again, if you do, make sure again, go to clubhousewithrussel.com and register, and that way you can potentially be on our next live show and get your questions answered. So with that said, theme song, we come back, you guys will have a chance to do the Q and A, for part two from our last episode, which we talked about the real secret behind the value ladder, and you hear everybody's questions and hopefully we get some gold for you in the conversations. With that said, queue up the theme song, and we'll see you guys soon. I don't normally do a lot of Q and A cause I just always get nervous that someone's going to ask me one of those questions. And so, but we're going to do it. Yhennifer, is going to help me out here. We're going to bring some of you guys up to stage. So if you've actually... Yhennifer, what's the process, they want to ask a question to come stage, they have feedback, or they want to talk about their value ladder or whatever, what's the process? How do we play this game? Yhennifer: Yeah. So let's do this. So this is the process guys. There is the little hand in the bottom. I see it going up the numbers. So make sure that if you want to ask a question or add on to this conversation and bring some value, you can actually raise your hand. We'll start bringing up five people at a time, and then we will let you ask your questions. So make sure that you also invite some new people, right? We can still invite people as we're here on this call. Everybody will get a chance to listen in this awesome value. And then one more thing I want to share before we bring people up, is that a reminder that this is being recorded, so this conversation is going to be recorded and let's see, we're going to bring up a few people as you come on here, please mute yourself. And we'll unmute you one at a time, that way there is no static in the background. Yhennifer: Okay. All right. We got a few people that we invited on this stage. So we'll start with the first one, Stacy. Stacy is a health coach Institute founding partner, bootstrap from startup to 270 amazing team members. So welcome Stacy to the call. We're so excited to have you here. What question do you have for Russell? Stacy: Hi Russell. Russell: Hi Stacy? Stacy: I haven't followed you in a long, long time so I'm excited to finally get to talk to you. Russell: Oh, really good. Stacy: My question is when you are first introducing someone into your ecosystem and you have this product suite, do you have a value ladder that you present at the beginning? So just real quick, ours is, we have a call center, so we're doing cold traffic to a call center basically. I mean, we have a Funnel in all of that, but just in the beginning, people seem surprised that we're a school. So they take the initial program and that there'll be graduate programs on non and ours are all pretty high ticket offers. We're not doing $27. Our first program is like $5,000, but still we want them to be able to ascend. And so do you have an Ascension map and saying, "Hey, you're going to be here for the long term. Here's what it looks like." Russell: Yeah, definitely. Stacy: That makes sense question. Russell: Good question. So a couple of things. So I'm going to answer two folks. One of them answers your question. One will answer probably people whose businesses may not have started at 5,000. So I'll kind of answer both ways and then we can go deeper. But so in our world we have so many front end offers because I love creating front end offers. And so we're driving traffic to front end offers plus the events all over the place. And so what happens to someone, they couldn't click on an ad and they made the first thing they see is just our events or a high-end coaching, excuse me, or something like that. So whenever they do that, it goes through that initial sequence of three or four emails that are tied to that Funnel. And then they're done, it drops them into a followup Funnel that starts at the very beginning of our value ladder. And so it's a 60 email sequence that I wrote that I sat down and said, "Okay. If my mom was to come into my world, she doesn't want a Funnel. Is she barely knows an Instagram is, what would be the process? How would I grab her hand and take her through this process? What would it look like?" And so the first thing I would do is I would show her this video on YouTube that I did that actually explains this concept. Then number two, I would show her my book. Number three, I would have listen to these three podcasts episodes. Number four... And I sat down and mapped that out, where I would take my mom if she was coming into my world for the very first time. And so we wrote that out and it took a long time. It was kind of a pain, but it was worth it. We wrote a six email sequence that takes them through all of the Funnels and the videos and the podcast things in order that I think is the best strategic order. So I'm go through them and a rolled those out put them in a sequence. And now everyone joins my world. They may get like one or two emails about whatever the thing is that they registered for. And it was done. It drops into that sequence and it takes them through the path that slowly sends them through all the core offers and training and everything we have a in the most strategic order. So that's kind of the first half of it. The second side, I think you were more talking about is when someone comes in and they pay 5,000 and you have this Ascension yeah, for me, I used to have multiple high-end coaching programs until a year and a half ago, or maybe two years ago, we took down the Inner Circle, but at Funnel Hacking Live, we're kind of reopening three programs. We have our two Common Club X our Inner Circle in our category Kings. And inside of that, everyone's going to know that like, here's the Ascension, right? If you're a zero to a million dollars before you got a two comma club award, this is where you live, you live in two comma club X until you've gotten that. And you've earned it, now you move up to Inner Circle. And the Inner Circles from a million to 10 million, that's where you live to get 10 million. And from there, you send up to a category King and so they see that and it's in front of them. And the more you talk about it, the more you mentioned it, the more people naturally want to send up. In fact, when I launched my Inner Circle, most of the marketing happened on my podcast. I would just talk about my Inner Circle members all the time. And people start messaging me. Like, "I just want to be in the inner circle so bad." And they kept seeing that that was the essential naturally wanted to go. And so I just talked about all the time. I put those people on my stages. I told stories about them and the books I told about them. And I was always just talking about my Inner Circle members. And naturally, people keep seeing that. And they certain wanting to, this is what I want to go. This is the path. This is the journey I want to go on. And so, anyway, I don't know if that answers your question, but that's kind of how we structure it for people to be able to see. Stacy: You did. You just totally sparked something for me that I wasn't thinking about before. Thank you so much. Russell: Sweet. Well, great to meet you officially. Thanks for hanging out. Yhennifer: Thank you Stacy for being here. Awesome. So now we're going to move on to Ryan Peterson. So Ryan is a digital marketing strategist, voice of the Entrepreneur Secrets Podcast and holds up the one percent summit. Welcome Ryan. Ryan Peterson: Hey, I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me up. Yeah. Russell, my question which is people who are starting out start on their value ladder. I mean, mapping it out is one thing, but where should I really focus my efforts and energy to get the most value, I guess for myself? Russell: So wait, say that again, your phone broke up a little bit. So you're saying you have your value out, you mapped it out. Where should you be focusing on? Is that what you said? Ryan Peterson: Yes. Exactly. Like what stage of the value ladder should I be focusing on? Russell: So show me where your business is right now. How much do you have built out? Where's it at right now? Ryan Peterson: Yeah, so right now, I have a podcast that is been a little difficult to going to create content daily and whatnot with had a baby recently in any way. And then I had a summit that I launched was a lot of fun and what I realized I don't have a next stage of my value ladder built out yet. And sitting back and thinking about it. I figured I should have thought out kind of the more pillars of my value ladder before I really start on the front end. And I'm assuming I was probably premature in building out the beginning of my value ladder without something more valuable towards the end, if that makes sense. Russell: Got you. I know where that's coming from. So I'd say a couple of things. I do think it's important people to start publishing and doing a summit or something initially, just because it gets momentum, gets you talking to people, finding your voice, like in our coaching programs, we start with that. But then the next thing is, you're saying, where do I make money, right? Where should I focus at? And so it's funny because when I first, this is like always been my biggest fear with talking about a value ladder is, if I can remember when I wrote the Dotcom Secrets Book, my first group of people that came into coaching afterwards was like, "Okay, Russell. So first I'm going to write my book, then I'm going to do my thing. And when they had the whole value ladder and all the stuff they were going to do." And I was like, "Wait, what?" The book is the hardest thing ever. Took me a decade to write a book. Don't start there. That was the biggest thing. Or they were trying to get all the things in place before the launch, any of it. And I'm a big believer nowadays. I try to guide as many people as possible. It's like, "Start at the very beginning." Where if you're doing a summit, doing podcasts, whatever, just to get the motion, getting into momentum. And then for me, the thing that I think is the best and just can be different for everybody. But for me, it's doing something about the thousand dollar price point and doing a webinar for it, right? Because I obviously love webinars, but that's where I focus at. Or if... I guess partially depends on the skill set of the entrepreneur, right? If you think you can be good at a webinar, that's where I would lead as my first big thing that I'm going to be spending a lot of money on, driving traffic and stuff like that. Some people are better on phone, right? If that's the case, I've started the higher ticket offer. Some people are horrible on the phone, horrible presenters, if so, I would do more of a traditional sales Funnel, where it's more written copy and stuff like that, kind of depending on your skill set, but I would definitely be picking one of those. I don't think you did out of order. I think the order's correct. I think it's starting publishing, is doing a summit because the summit introduced you as your dream 100, you get to know people, you start building a little bit of list. And now with that list, now you're able to go back and say, "Okay. Hey guys, my webinars starting come registered for my webinar. You have a chance to test it against traffic who knows who you are." And the second phase is, "Okay, here's all the people I interviewed in my summit. Now it's dream 100. Now, let's do a promotion to each of their lists, promoting the webinar, right?" And then that starts getting webinars better and cleaner and more efficient. And then the third step now is like, "Okay, I promote to my list. I promoted my dream one hundreds of lists. Now I'm going to go out and start buying Facebook ads or buying traffic to push people to the webinar." That's literally how we launched Clickfunnels. It was exactly that, right? I spent a lot of time building relationships with people through summits and other things. And then when Clickfunnels launched, we did a big webinar to our own list, made a bunch of money, which our dream 100 list made a bunch of money. And it wasn't till, I think we were probably year, year and a half into Clickfunnels before we ever bought our first ad. And before that it was all just focusing on those relationships we built through our own efforts. And so I think I would probably recommend something similar for you as you've done the first two steps. If you've done a summit, you got some relationships now, now it's like, okay, go and build your webinar or whatever the bigger one is. And now you can leverage your list and your relationships to launch it. And then from there you start transitioning to paid ads. Does that make sense? Ryan Peterson: Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much. That was invaluable. Russell: Very cool. No worries. Thanks for hanging out. Yhennifer: Awesome Ryan, thank you for being here. Now, we're going to bring up Mark. Mark helps real estate agents and teams to automate processes using workflows to scale their businesses while protecting their families time. Mark, what is your question? Welcome to the call today. Mark: Well, first off I just wanted to say thank you, thank you, thank you, Russell, for what you have done. Honestly, I am the product of the value ladder. I had zero comprehension of what you do and have done all these years until November. And I've spent the last 30 years developing software for real estate agents using what we call workflows and it's different than Funnels and stuff like that, but it has some similar. Not sure where I needed to go. And whenever I saw, I forget what it was that actually started at first, there was some kind of free thing that you had. Then I got the three books. I read through the three books. I did the one Funnel away challenge twice. We've already signed up for Funnel Hacking Live. I want to be on the two comma club by September, if not, I mean, it will be September of next year whenever you have it. But the whole idea of the frameworks that you brought to me, I just want to say thank you. Russell: That's awesome. Mark: It's just been amazing what it has spurred in my mind because of what you have taught, not only the free stuff but even the low level price stuff. I mean, just amazing. So I would love to buy you a dinner sometime and just take your brain. I know everybody else does too, but golly, you do not know what you have done to touch my life in the lives of my family. So just want to say thank you. Russell: That's amazing. I like you for that. I appreciate that. We've got a shot. If you would ask me a question to pick my brain right now, we got a moment. Mark: Well, you start talking about the frameworks and stuff, that was my biggest aha, was the frameworks, was the four core pieces of, four core strategies and I've come up with details and stuff. And right now it's just content. I'm just trying to build the content. And I am failing in providing that on a regular basis, but I'm in the muck of building other content. And I started the idea of building a book. And then you made some kind of comment in a previous thing. It's like, put that off until later. It's like, okay, I'll put that off the later. But I am building kind of the topics of that and that'll come eventually, but man, it's just like a light bulb went off and my energy has just gone through the roof. My wife is saying, who is this guy? Russell Brunson, because he has changed my husband. And it's just been amazing. So that's all I wanted to say. Which is thank you. Yhennifer: Okay. Russell: Thank you, man. I feel great. Thank you. Yhennifer: Russell, this is the part where you put the mic drop, you do the thing in the background. Russell: There we go. I appreciate it. Yhennifer: Thank you, Mark for being here. We appreciate you so much and see you at Funnel Hacking Live. Awesome. Russell: Absolutely. Yhennifer: Now, yeah, we're going to bring on Ms Bates. She is a certified life coach. Best-Selling author. Master EFT practitioner. Welcome today to this call. Let us know what you have for Russell. Any questions? Welcome. Ms Bates: Well, thank you. So Russell, I love you. I know it's a crazy way to start but, I just do. Oh my God. Yhennifer: That got real weird, real fast. Ms Bates: I know. It's just amazing. You have been such an inspiration to me. I'm a solopreneur and I'm just so grateful for everything that you've done and that you put out. Russell: Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Ms Bates: So here's my question. I'm a solopreneur and I've been working on different lead magnets. I've been testing different things like meditations or like do's and don'ts lists. But my question is once someone is in that Funnel, right, they go through that. My desire is to have them come to me for one-on-one coaching and then to put them into a group coaching program. And I'm wondering what the length of my email sequence should be. Russell: Got you. So walk me through what it looks like right now. So they come through a lead magnet and from there you're selling them into a high end thing. Is that right? That's the first thing? Ms Bates: Right. Russell: And what's the price point of the higher end thing? Ms Bates: The price point of the high end thing. It's a six months, $6,000. So if that is something that's out of their price range, then I down sell them into a group. Russell: Got you. And then what's the price on the group? Ms Bates: And the price on the group is 199 a month or 1997 for the year. Russell: Very cool. Do more people want to do the one-on-one work with you or the more do the group or is it kind of a just... Ms Bates: More people want to do the one-on-one work with me. I'm starting to try to move away because what I'm looking to do is scale, right? Which of course my time I can do more with a group than I can with the with the one-on-ones. So that's, I'm just trying to figure out how long I should be nurturing them? Russell: Yeah. The reality is especially those are the two core things you're selling. It's not so much how long do I do it for, it's part of everything you're doing right? It becomes part of your communication. You should be talking about it at everything. Do you know what I mean? For a long.. So it's not just like a 10 day or 30 day email sequence or whatever. It should be weaved into everything you're doing. So every communication, every email, every podcast, everything you're doing is always talking about these things and the people you have a chance to work with. I'd almost flip it around because you're going six... Are all the sales happening on the phone right now, or people buying just organically yet? Ms Bates: Nope. They're all happening on the phone. So it's all me like I'm doing the sales call, I'm doing everything. Russell: Is it what you got? Or do you like it? Ms Bates: I'm kind of falling in love with the sales part of it. So I want to get good at that before I outsource that. Russell: Yeah. Because I would almost flip it around a little bit where let's say, because you're saying you're into EFT as well, right? Is that what the coaching is based on that or something different? Ms Bates: Yeah, it primarily is based on that. Russell: Oh, very cool. So if I was doing it, I would make friends that are tied to specific things, right? Because I'm assuming you're doing tapping for, like you focusing on anything or is it like just kind of tapping as a whole? Ms Bates: Yeah. So for whatever reason, my focus has lately been it's multilevel marketing that are in the mid tier and they're having blocks getting to their next level. And so trauma resilience is a part of my passion and I know that those kinds of blocks show up for people. So I help people power through that and then get to the next level. Russell: Very cool. So I'd almost have something where the front end is tapping for trauma or for whatever it is, like something that comes in there. And then the first thing I would try to sell them is the $200 a month program. It's similar to that. I think that's if going to Annie Grace, she's the alcohol experiment. If you look at her model kind of Funnel hacker, that's what she's doing. She has a webinar right now that sells I think it's the same price 200 bucks a month. Or they can buy a year for, what is that? I think a year for 1997 for two grand, basically I believe is what her model is and that's where everyone goes through initially. She's not talking to those people, it's all being sold through a webinar and then after they've gone through like an hour long webinar, some signups some didn't. But then from there, the next part of the sequence is like, "Hey, if you're interested getting one-on-one help with me, go fill out the application here." And what'll happen is a couple of things, is it you'll start making money on a whole bunch of people you never talked to, which is nice, right? That's the first step. And the second step is that then when you start getting people on the phone, those people are going to be way easier to close because they sat through a 90 minute webinar with you. They’ve seen the value in those kinds of things. The craziest thing is when we... So I had my first big coaching program, my Inner Circle I ran that and it was a lot of work we had, I don't know, 20 or 30 people in it at a time. And then that's about time to Clickfunnels' launch. Clickfunnels launched. And it was a 90 minute webinars selling a thousand dollar product. And we started doing that like crazy. And then what was insane is that somebody will watch the 90 minute webinar side of Clickfunnels, found my coaching page on the thank you page and start applying. And my program went from 30 people to a hundred people in like two months. Like it was just caught on fire because the sales calls now easy. They're like, "We just watched Russell those 90 minutes. We want that." I was like, "Okay." And we're trying to sell them. Literally this is my credit card. I don't need any selling. It became so easy because the webinar pre-framed them. And again, not everyone's signed for coaching. Tons of people bought Clickfunnels there. And then the cream of the crop rose up and they came and they were ready. It's almost like if you flip your model a little bit, I bet you'd have more success because first off you going to making money off people who you haven't talked to you and the people you talk to, you're going to be more pre-framed to actually come in and buy from you. Ms Bates: Thank you. So the invitation initially is for the webinar or do I still put them through, like go through the freebie and then to the webinar and then to the group on, so you're up moving back this up, you're saying make the offer on the webinar for the group and then an application to one-on-one coaching. So that's my offer? Russell: Are you in a webinar right now or? Ms Bates: No, I'm not doing a webinar. Russell: So first thing I do is whatever you do and I'll keep doing it because you don't want that to stop. Like somebody to be like, take your eye off the ball. I keep doing that. Just it's working. Don't mess with that. So that's for sale. On the side, I would start creating webinars specifically to sell your $200 a month program. And then you start driving traffic directly to that and that'll become this new path. And then when that past making more money than the other one, then I would transition everything over. But don't mess with those working right now. Because it's working, I don't want to affect your business, but this is how I think long-term, this will become something that will be much more sustainable, more powerful for you. Does that make sense? So that's kind of how I would do it. Ms Bates: It does. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I love you again. Russell: No worries. Love you too. Thanks for hanging out. Yhennifer: Awesome, Ms. Bates, I'm glad that you got your question answered guys. Just a reminder, you guys can add some people onto this call. We're still going to be here for a few more minutes. We're so excited to be here. Guys? Russell is dropping some nuggets, okay? People pay thousands of dollars to get this coaching. So I'm so excited for all you guys that get a chance to ask Russell questions. So now we are going to bring Richard. Richard is that how you pronounce your name? He's a travel advisor. A key to the world travel, Disney destination expert. If I messed up your name, I'm sorry, but I hope I'm saying it correctly, but it's your turn. Welcome to the call. Richard: Thank you guys so much for having me through. You can call me, Rich. Everybody can call me Rich. That's fine. Yhennifer: Rich. Richard: So Russell, just want to say, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm currently rereading probably the third or four time Expert Secrets. I was in Own Your Future this past week. I was part of that lead challenge that you had, the five day lead challenge. I like in your world, bro. So just want to say, thank you. Russell: Thanks man. Glad to have you here. Richard: Yeah. So my question is really so as a travel agent really my value ladder is bringing leads in, educating them on the best, we'll take Disney for instance, the best Disney vacation ever, right? I provide value, value, value, and then they go through their trip and then after that it's pretty much done. So that's kind of like the result, right? If I was to say, a problem to solution. My question is for you, what else should I think about to really continue to bring more value? And really, I don't have like a $7 lead magnet to a $97 to a mastermind to Inner Circle, all that how should I be thinking about my value ladder? Russell: So right now taught value ladder, someone goes through is a Disney cruise or Disney trip, what exactly are they getting in the end? Richard: So doesn't matter. It could be Disney world vacation, Disney cruise, basically it's a vacation. Russell: Got you. One thing, so my family has done a bunch of Disney vacations. We just got back a little while ago from one and it was funny. We were joking. We did our first Disney cruise. Like when you get on the boat, there's the dudes with the big old Disney hand or Mickey mouse hands on their high five. And you're coming on and they're giving you drinks. This is amazing experience coming on, it's the photograph and you need to get on the boat. And then the boat's amazing. And then when the cruise is done, you get off and there's no one greeting you it's like dead. When you walk off, it's like they shove you out to the buses. And you're just like, "Wow. It's over that. That experience has ended really bad." And it was funny, because then the next time we're booking a cruise, right? The last thing you remember from Disney was just like horrible experience where it's just ended. And we're sitting by the buses waiting for our thing. It ended on this really down note as opposed to an up note. Richard: Oh no. Russell: And so then we're like, Worsley book cruise and right? Well, Disney was cool, but it's kind of weird at the end. And then, so we booked with a Norwegian next time or whatever. And so it's the little things like that. So like I would be looking at okay, because obviously in a business like that, people who do those things, do those things, right? We did Disney, we did the VIP tours, did all kind of stuff. And we spent a lot of money and it's awesome, and we had a great experience. And what's crazy to me just as a marketer is like, when we got done, they're like, all right, we'll see you. And I'm just like, you realize people come to Disney and pay for VIP tours, come to Disney and pay for VIP tours. I was like, why didn't somebody Jetta offers something right there and right. Or the next day, or call us next week. Like, how was the experience? What was it like? Nobody did that to me. And I was like, we probably would have been probably still will because the experience was great. We'll probably re-booking for whenever, but they could have doubled their money right then on the spot while we're at the peak of emotional intensity, as opposed to waiting further down the line, that'd be the first thing we're looking at is like, how do you capture that right? In a way that now you can like, get them booked on the next thing. Especially again, people are paying higher and stuff. They travel more often. It can be every six months they're looking for something like that. And that becomes this huge high ticket recurring program. That'd be the first thing I would kind of think through. Do you have a process now when someone finishes that you take them through to get them to re up for the next thing? Richard: Yeah. I'm working on my follow-up scripts right now. The email followups after they've gone through. And then, yeah, even just what you were saying, what happens now? What happens next? They're kind of like in this, I had an amazing experience and then kind of the experience kind of dies off. Russell: Yeah. Had to get that back up and because that'd be the biggest thing. Because now you're not going and finding a new lead, convincing them, you're going through a process like it's, you've got them. You just got to get them to it again. Mark Joyner, was my first mentor and his second book is called the Great Formula. And inside the book, he says the secret to successful businesses is getting your customers to take a second drink, right? The first drink is like, you just go through all this effort from the ad to the conversion, to everything for the first drink. And we got him and then we like forget about and go try to get more people to give him drinks. Like, no, they're like the money in your business, which just comes back to value ladders, is like the second drink, right? Because that's all pure profit. You don't have to get the ad. You don't have to do the stuff. They're already sold. You just got to ask them for a second drink. And it's shifting the focus to that. Because I'm assuming you got a lot of things happening on the front end. It's just, man, how do you get the second, third and fifth vacation? And who do they know that can vacation with them, right? Like we vacation with our friends now. And so it's like, we have a good experience. The next trip. Usually we're riding our friends. So it's like, Hey, let's build a bigger trip. Like who else can you bring? You bring your family, your friends, and crafting something with them where now that's just for you, it's just pure profit. Richard: Yeah. I'm even going through Expert Secrets. And I don't want to take up too much of the time. Sorry. Just even thinking about, who do I want to serve, right? I've been called to serve a certain group and I have that kind of my avatar down. And so it's just serving them. It's not just Disney cruises or Disney vacations. It's, "Hey, have you thought about an all-inclusive Cancun resort?" Something different but still an experience that they can have. And there like you said, I think I like what you said in terms of just keep that first drink, that second drink, that third drink. So maybe just thinking about my email or marketing afterwards, if it's a survey, if it's something and just say, "Hey, how was it? What'd you like about it? Hey, did you know that this is happening? And you can book this next time." Russell: Oh yeah. I think even pre-building a trip. My wife would get stuff sometimes in email, or she'll see people, our friends on social media who posts these pictures from this trip. And then she's, "Oh, where'd they go?" And she'll call them up and find out. And then we ended up going that same trip. We would do those kinds of things versus like, Hey, here's getting them to socially share trip with other people. And then vice versa is like you coming to them like, Hey, so inside of our community here, we've got this community of, I don't know, whatever you call them are our community of travelers, right? And here's someone just went to Mexico, check out what they get in, check out this trip. And here's four or five people on trips. If you want info on these trips, let me know we can connect you with the same thing. But look at these pictures from everybody and creating a culture like that, where everybody is kind of sharing their trips amongst each other. And then you're the one that's booking them back and forth and it can be really cool. Richard: I'm actually building the Facebook group right now. And that's where I'm funneling every everyone too. So that I can go live there. I can go talk to people and just tell them, "Hey, these people went on this trip." And then have them come on as a Zoom call and just talk about their trip and what they liked and maybe inspire others to book that same trip. Russell: Nice. Awesome, man. That's very cool. What a fun business. Richard: Thank you. Thank you very much. And like I said, thank you so much for all you did for me and just all the value you provide. Russell: Oh, no worries. I appreciate that. Yhennifer: Thank you. Rich. Thank you for being here. We're going to bring on JJ. JJ has helped celebrities, artists, big brands and media companies create over 650 million in revenue by building relationships, my favorite thing in the world. What questions do you have for us so JJ? JJ: Oh my God it's Russell. What's up Russell? All right. So how many questions? What's my limit? What's my limit here. Yhennifer: You get one. JJ: I get one. Oh, God. I got to make this good. Russell: Don't mess it up. JJ: Really long one or really short one? Russell: We'll see. Give us the first one first. Just kidding. JJ: All right. On a serious note. So before you hired the best community manager in the world, and brought her on your team, how did you build those relationships with, I mean, your company blew up, I've been watching you from the beginning and I mean, within just a year or two, you blow up faster than almost anybody in the digital space. How did you keep those connections and build those connections and keep that community strong? I mean, you have the biggest, and I hate to say the four letter word, cult, behind you in the world when it comes to software. How did you do that in your value ladder? Russell: That's such a great question. And it's funny because Dave would have, you guys know he's now the CEO Clickfunnels has been for the last almost a year now. He does a great job, but it's funny because he'll go off call and coming to me, he's like, man, Russell, you've dug your wells so deep. He's like people just say yes to anything I ask them to do. And I think it was what you understand is that people, depending on when you came into my world, when people come in, it's like you see something, you saw Clickfunnels, you saw this, you saw this. But what people don't know is that I was in this game for man probably, I mean, years now, 10, 12 years before we launched Clickfunnels. And that time was doing that building relationships. In fact, I joked at the very beginning of this, I've been doing this so long, before Facebook, before MySpace, like Friendster was the hot social network when I was in college, when I started this game. And Friendster did not have an ad platform, Google had an ad platform, but a year into my business, they the Google slap happened and it ended. So I had a decade where we were not able to buy ads. There was nowhere to buy ads. You can buy banner ads kind of, but they didn't work that well. And so all I could do, the only way to get traffic was through relationships. And so I went to every event. I have to go to events and find out who the people that have traffic. And this is for me, it's hard because I'm super introverted and scared to death of people. And so what I did is I found extroverts who I liked. I said, "Hey, come to this event, I'll pay for you to go with me." And we go to these events. I'm like, okay, I have to meet all these people because they have traffic. These people have email lists and they got a blog and they got these different things. And I spent a decade of doing that, right, of going and talking to people, getting to know them, building relationships using the assets I had to help them to promote them, to either promote their stuff or to help them with different things wherever I could do. And so I spent a lot of time doing that. I think that's what people don't understand. They think that like, oh, he came out of nowhere. It just blew up. It's no, I spent so much time going out and building relationships. So when Clickfunnels came about, it was nice because it wasn't me just cold calling and Hey, you're who I am yet, but you should pro Clickfunnels. It was like, Hey, this is Russell, and we're friends and this is this project I'm working on. What do you think about? What would you do if you were me and the most amazing minds in the world, sharing with me what they would do, if it was them and giving me ideas and strategies and then they felt like they were part of it when we launched it and rolled it out. And so I think that's a big part of it, obviously you're tied into the relationship side of things, but I don't think people put enough effort into that. They focus on the quick ask, the quick wins. And not like, how do I actually build a real relationship? I was telling someone because we were last week at the Dean and Tony launch and somebody asked me, how'd you get to know Tony Robbins? How did you know? And I was like, "Well, I spent 12 years of my life serving him in any way I could, before I ever asked him for anything." It was 12 years of like, let me just help him and help him and help him. And since then, man, he's done so much promoting the last three or four years. But it came from a decade of building relationship. And I think you can build a relationship faster than that. Tony's obviously super human and the hardest person on earth to get a hold of. But it comes with leading first, serving and having to help people and getting to know people and stuff like that. So, yeah, it was a lot of digging my well, before we launched ClickFunnels. JJ: Well thank you for saying that you're on the stage. Because you come into some of these clubhouse rooms and you get these marketers, "Oh, you got to buy ads. You've got to buy ads." I didn't buy ads for 10 years, myself. I mean, you know Brad Hart. I work with Brad Hart now. He didn't buy ads for the first five years of his business and build those relationships first. Thank you for saying that. But honestly you really, I mean, I think leveled up your game by hiring a community manager. She's up on the stage. She's keeps your community engaged. Love Yhennifer. So throwing some love towards Yhennifer. So my second question... Yhennifer: It has to be quick, Jay. JJ: It's fast. You can beat me later. What is your favorite Oreo cookie? Russell: My favorite Oreo cookie. So actually when Collette and I got married, they toilet paper our car, we were driving out and they got Oreos and they stuck them to the side of the car, but the Oreos had pop rocks inside the frosting. And I remember pulling off the car and I was like, "This is disgusting, but I love pop rocks." And so, yeah. And I don't think I've seen pop rock Oreo frosting since then. But if they ever bring it back, I will be the first in line. So that'd probably be my favorite. I don't know. JJ: Oh. Yhennifer: That was a good one. Russell: That was worth it. Yhennifer: You guys heard it. You guys heard it first. If you find that out there, go ship it to the Clickfunnels headquarters, because boss we'll be happy. Russell: Oh man. Yhennifer: That was so good. All right. My girl McCall. McCall is the founder of Charisma Hacking. What question or anything you want to add? Russell: And hold on. And she's a speaker at this year's Funnel Hacking Live event. Yhennifer: Are you going to to be there? I'm so excited. First of all, before we get McCall to talk, guys, if you have not bought your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live, go to funnelhackinglive.com, get your tickets and I'll see you guys there. McCall, the mic is yours. McCall Jones: Oh my gosh. Hi friends. Thanks so much. I was just going to add two things that helped the value ladder really make sense for me in the last year and a half. Since I started this. Russell, you know I study everything that you do. And the first thing that I did was read.comsecrets. Something that was a little bit hard for me at the beginning that, I mean, you teach on all these things, but it was the one product will create the problem that the next one will solve. And the first thing that I thought was like, "Oh my gosh, I have to create those problems. And I have to create those problems for people to ascend my value ladder." You had said something, I don't remember if it was in a podcast or I just heard you speak on a live somewhere, but you talked about the customer Ascension ladder and kind of the education part of it. And it put it all into perspective for me of the way that all of the sudden, I was able to shift my mind instead of being like, "Hey, you have to create problems from the bottom up and the problems that one will solve, it will open up a new problem to create the next product and all of that." Instead I thought, "Okay, the customer Ascension, where do you eventually want people to go?" So your Inner Circle and your category Kings and all of that, and then map out the steps that it takes to get there. And then with each program, with each step of the value ladder, it's just like, "Oh, what do you need to educate people on in order for them to want to join the next program, right? So it's an educational process that helped me with the very bottom of it, because I know that I think it was Ryan was talking about summits and creating consistent content and all of that. When I put it into education, all of a sudden the bottom of the value ladder made so much more sense to me because at the beginning, nobody knew what gurus Maggie was, right. It was like what the heck was that? Russell: You had invented a new term. Yeah. McCall Jones: Yeah. It was like, this is crazy. And it's hard to do that, right. You know you're in a really scary place in business where you're trying to solve a problem that people don't think that they have. And this education kind of form of this value ladder when you said that it really helped me think like, "Oh, okay. The bottom of my evaluator needs to be educating on my frameworks." So my whole opt-in bottom of the value ladder, what people can do with podcasts or the video content they're creating the summits, all those kinds of things. If they're consistently educating on their frameworks at the bottom, right? They first let people know what they're doing, right? And the problem that they're solving. And then from there, it's like, okay, now that you know what the problem is, and you can accurately say, oh, I do have that problem. Wow. Then you can move them up into paid products, and you can continue to educate them until they get to the highest level. But that was the thing that helped me the most, because at first with the problems, it was just hard for my brain to kind of wrap around it. And then it was like, oh, if you can accurately help somebody get through one specific step and then educate them on what they need to know in order to join the next program, then they will continue to ascend your value ladder because they will have a problem that's solved and they will have the education they need in order to address that they have a new problem. So that was something that helped me. Yeah. Guys, come to Funnel Hacking Live. You have to be there. Russell: Yeah. The thing I would add to that too, is like, I think a lot of times people are so stressed. I got to figure all these pieces and all the things. And one thing that I noticed when I first started doing this and I've noticed other people's that a lot of times you don't know what the next thing is until you start doing your thing, right? You start selling your product. For me, it was funnels, funnels, funnels. I wrote the book, we created a software and all sorts of stuff, that was it, right? That was the plan. And then as people started signing up and they buy the book and buy the funnels, then it was the next question kept coming and coming, it wasn't me making this up. It was like, oh, here's the question that everybody keeps asking like, okay, how do I solve that problem? How do I solve that problem? So the customers will bring you the problem. You don't have to invent them. You just do your thing in the best of your ability. And then listen. And if you listen, then the next thing will come to you and you know exactly what to do so. McCall Jones: Another really interesting, I'm so sorry. I just will be really fast. But at the beginning, I've built these frameworks for 20 years, but I didn't know what my people needed. And if you try to force what you know on people, instead of what they need, then your products won't sell, right. But instead it was exactly what you said, as far as finding your voice, the same thing was, I think it was Dave who just popped into this room, Hi Dave? It's about finding your frameworks, right? So creating your content and making sure that you're publishing on a consistent basis. It's creating these frameworks and refining them and seeing what sticks for people. And then it's not just like, well, I know this, that's what I should create a product around. It's like, no, no, no. People will listen. And they will. It's exactly what you said. They will tell you that market research is so invaluable. And then in that next program, if you're building it from the ground up, then you educate them. You listen to their problems and you let them ask questions and then they will reveal what that next product needs to be. Super interesting. Russell: Very cool. Well, thanks for call. Excited to see you again soon at funnel hacking live with all of you guys here who are listening in as well. I hope it's going to be amazing. Yhennifer: Awesome guys. Make sure that you click on that little greenhouse, make sure that you're following the Marketing Secrets Live Club. There's going to be many more. Right, Russell? Russell: Yeah, this was actually really fun. I hope... Did you enjoy Yhennifer? That was fun. Yhennifer: It was amazing obviously, listening to you. The value that you provide and also being able to speak to our funnel hackers here that we're excited to chat with you. Russell: Yeah. So I think the game plan we're going to try and keep news a few times. If it sticks, then we'll keep doing it. But I actually really enjoyed not just talking about topic and pushing the podcast. That was nice to get feedback or questions or like getting McCall, like doubling down. Like it's something I learned that helped me to make sense. And that was way more valuable to have that a as actual application of the concept, not just the concept. So I loved it. It was fun. So we'll let you guys know kind of moving forward when we'll keep doing these. But that was awesome. So thank you so much for helping facilitate it and make it all happen. Thank you guys all for listening. And will let you guys know when the next party is going to start. And I think, hold on, I got an outro. Should I do an outro? Yhennifer: Wait, before you put that outro, like do one of those money signs, money noises, things. Russell: Let's see. Yhennifer: Come on you got the buttons over there. Russell: There's a button there… We got… We're so funny. Yhennifer: That is amazing. All right. So we're going to close out with this out show. Thank you so much guys, for being here. See you guys in the next one. Russell: All right. Thanks everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 May 2021 08:00:00 -0000 LIVE Q&A: The Real Secret Behind The Value Ladder (Part 2) full 417 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Register for the next LIVE episode at  Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody. It's Russell. Welcome back. I hope you liked the last episode.... Register for the next LIVE episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody. It's Russell. Welcome back. I hope you liked the last episode. What you think about a live version of the marketing secret show? Anyway I hope you guys enjoyed it. First off, I think it brings a different energy level. When I know it's live, I got to show off to all the people I get to see their faces. It's hopefully you guys enjoyed that part of it. And hopefully, went to clubhousewithrussell.com and when registered so that you, that way, when we do the next live podcast, you can be on it. So that's the first thing. And then number two is, this episode we're actually going to share the Q and A's, there's about 40 minutes of Q and A with people who were there. And so in the future, if you want me to answer your questions, like, come on the show, go to the clubhouse with russell.com register, show up on the show, and then I'll talk about a concept and then we'll open the lines for Q and A. And you see some people got hot seats coaching sessions during this Q and A, which is really fun. But I think the reason I want to share these with you here, because I think most of the conversations that happened, there's something that each of you could learn from those conversations. So I hope you enjoy it. And again, if you do, make sure again, go to clubhousewithrussel.com and register, and that way you can potentially be on our next live show and get your questions answered. So with that said, theme song, we come back, you guys will have a chance to do the Q and A, for part two from our last episode, which we talked about the real secret behind the value ladder, and you hear everybody's questions and hopefully we get some gold for you in the conversations. With that said, queue up the theme song, and we'll see you guys soon. I don't normally do a lot of Q and A cause I just always get nervous that someone's going to ask me one of those questions. And so, but we're going to do it. Yhennifer, is going to help me out here. We're going to bring some of you guys up to stage. So if you've actually... Yhennifer, what's the process, they want to ask a question to come stage, they have feedback, or they want to talk about their value ladder or whatever, what's the process? How do we play this game? Yhennifer: Yeah. So let's do this. So this is the process guys. There is the little hand in the bottom. I see it going up the numbers. So make sure that if you want to ask a question or add on to this conversation and bring some value, you can actually raise your hand. We'll start bringing up five people at a time, and then we will let you ask your questions. So make sure that you also invite some new people, right? We can still invite people as we're here on this call. Everybody will get a chance to listen in this awesome value. And then one more thing I want to share before we bring people up, is that a reminder that this is being recorded, so this conversation is going to be recorded and let's see, we're going to bring up a few people as you come on here, please mute yourself. And we'll unmute you one at a time, that way there is no static in the background. Yhennifer: Okay. All right. We got a few people that we invited on this stage. So we'll start with the first one, Stacy. Stacy is a health coach Institute founding partner, bootstrap from startup to 270 amazing team members. So welcome Stacy to the call. We're so excited to have you here. What question do you have for Russell? Stacy: Hi Russell. Russell: Hi Stacy? Stacy: I haven't followed you in a long, long time so I'm excited to finally get to talk to you. Russell: Oh, really good. Stacy: My question is when you are first introducing someone into your ecosystem and you have this product suite, do you have a value ladder that you present at the beginning? So just real quick, ours is, we have a call center, so we're doing cold traffic to a call center basically. I mean, we have a Funnel in all of that, but just in the beginning, people seem surprised that we're a school. So they take the initial program and that there'll be graduate programs on non and ours are all pretty high ticket offers. We're not doing $27. Our first program is like $5,000, but still we want them to be able to ascend. And so do you have an Ascension map and saying, "Hey, you're going to be here for the long term. Here's what it looks like." Russell: Yeah, definitely. Stacy: That makes sense question. Russell: Good question. So a couple of things. So I'm going to answer two folks. One of them answers your question. One will answer probably people whose businesses may not have started at 5,000. So I'll kind of answer both ways and then we can go deeper. But so in our world we have so many front end offers because I love creating front end offers. And so we're driving traffic to front end offers plus the events all over the place. And so what happens to someone, they couldn't click on an ad and they made the first thing they see is just our events or a high-end coaching, excuse me, or something like that. So whenever they do that, it goes through that initial sequence of three or four emails that are tied to that Funnel. And then they're done, it drops them into a followup Funnel that starts at the very beginning of our value ladder. And so it's a 60 email sequence that I wrote that I sat down and said, "Okay. If my mom was to come into my world, she doesn't want a Funnel. Is she barely knows an Instagram is, what would be the process? How would I grab her hand and take her through this process? What would it look like?" And so the first thing I would do is I would show her this video on YouTube that I did that actually explains this concept. Then number two, I would show her my book. Number three, I would have listen to these three podcasts episodes. Number four... And I sat down and mapped that out, where I would take my mom if she was coming into my world for the very first time. And so we wrote that out and it took a long time. It was kind of a pain, but it was worth it. We wrote a six email sequence that takes them through all of the Funnels and the videos and the podcast things in order that I think is the best strategic order. So I'm go through them and a rolled those out put them in a sequence. And now everyone joins my world. They may get like one or two emails about whatever the thing is that they registered for. And it was done. It drops into that sequence and it takes them through the path that slowly sends them through all the core offers and training and everything we have a in the most strategic order. So that's kind of the first half of it. The second side, I think you were more talking about is when someone comes in and they pay 5,000 and you have this Ascension yeah, for me, I used to have multiple high-end coaching programs until a year and a half ago, or maybe two years ago, we took down the Inner Circle, but at Funnel Hacking Live, we're kind of reopening three programs. We have our two Common Club X our Inner Circle in our category Kings. And inside of that, everyone's going to know that like, here's the Ascension, right? If you're a zero to a million dollars before you got a two comma club award, this is where you live, you live in two comma club X until you've gotten that. And you've earned it, now you move up to Inner Circle. And the Inner Circles from a million to 10 million, that's where you live to get 10 million. And from there, you send up to a category King and so they see that and it's in front of them. And the more you talk about it, the more you mentioned it, the more people naturally want to send up. In fact, when I launched my Inner Circle, most of the marketing happened on my podcast. I would just talk about my Inner Circle members all the time. And people start messaging me. Like, "I just want to be in the inner circle so bad." And they kept seeing that that was the essential naturally wanted to go. And so I just talked about all the time. I put those people on my stages. I told stories about them and the books I told about them. And I was always just talking about my Inner Circle members. And naturally, people keep seeing that. And they certain wanting to, this is what I want to go. This is the path. This is the journey I want to go on. And so, anyway, I don't know if that answers your question, but that's kind of how we structure it for people to be able to see. Stacy: You did. You just totally sparked something for me that I wasn't thinking about before. Thank you so much. Russell: Sweet. Well, great to meet you officially. Thanks for hanging out. Yhennifer: Thank you Stacy for being here. Awesome. So now we're going to move on to Ryan Peterson. So Ryan is a digital marketing strategist, voice of the Entrepreneur Secrets Podcast and holds up the one percent summit. Welcome Ryan. Ryan Peterson: Hey, I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me up. Yeah. Russell, my question which is people who are starting out start on their value ladder. I mean, mapping it out is one thing, but where should I really focus my efforts and energy to get the most value, I guess for myself? Russell: So wait, say that again, your phone broke up a little bit. So you're saying you have your value out, you mapped it out. Where should you be focusing on? Is that what you said? Ryan Peterson: Yes. Exactly. Like what stage of the value ladder should I be focusing on? Russell: So show me where your business is right now. How much do you have built out? Where's it at right now? Ryan Peterson: Yeah, so right now, I have a podcast that is been a little difficult to going to create content daily and whatnot with had a baby recently in any way. And then I had a summit that I launched was a lot of fun and what I realized I don't have a next stage of my value ladder built out yet. And sitting back and thinking about it. I figured I should have thought out kind of the more pillars of my value ladder before I really start on the front end. And I'm assuming I was probably premature in building out the beginning of my value ladder without something more valuable towards the end, if that makes sense. Russell: Got you. I know where that's coming from. So I'd say a couple of things. I do think it's important people to start publishing and doing a summit or something initially, just because it gets momentum, gets you talking to people, finding your voice, like in our coaching programs, we start with that. But then the next thing is, you're saying, where do I make money, right? Where should I focus at? And so it's funny because when I first, this is like always been my biggest fear with talking about a value ladder is, if I can remember when I wrote the Dotcom Secrets Book, my first group of people that came into coaching afterwards was like, "Okay, Russell. So first I'm going to write my book, then I'm going to do my thing. And when they had the whole value ladder and all the stuff they were going to do." And I was like, "Wait, what?" The book is the hardest thing ever. Took me a decade to write a book. Don't start there. That was the biggest thing. Or they were trying to get all the things in place before the launch, any of it. And I'm a big believer nowadays. I try to guide as many people as possible. It's like, "Start at the very beginning." Where if you're doing a summit, doing podcasts, whatever, just to get the motion, getting into momentum. And then for me, the thing that I think is the best and just can be different for everybody. But for me, it's doing something about the thousand dollar price point and doing a webinar for it, right? Because I obviously love webinars, but that's where I focus at. Or if... I guess partially depends on the skill set of the entrepreneur, right? If you think you can be good at a webinar, that's where I would lead as my first big thing that I'm going to be spending a lot of money on, driving traffic and stuff like that. Some people are better on phone, right? If that's the case, I've started the higher ticket offer. Some people are horrible on the phone, horrible presenters, if so, I would do more of a traditional sales Funnel, where it's more written copy and stuff like that, kind of depending on your skill set, but I would definitely be picking one of those. I don't think you did out of order. I think the order's correct. I think it's starting publishing, is doing a summit because the summit introduced you as your dream 100, you get to know people, you start building a little bit of list. And now with that list, now you're able to go back and say, "Okay. Hey guys, my webinars starting come registered for my webinar. You have a chance to test it against traffic who knows who you are." And the second phase is, "Okay, here's all the people I interviewed in my summit. Now it's dream 100. Now, let's do a promotion to each of their lists, promoting the webinar, right?" And then that starts getting webinars better and cleaner and more efficient. And then the third step now is like, "Okay, I promote to my list. I promoted my dream one hundreds of lists. Now I'm going to go out and start buying Facebook ads or buying traffic to push people to the webinar." That's literally how we launched Clickfunnels. It was exactly that, right? I spent a lot of time building relationships with people through summits and other things. And then when Clickfunnels launched, we did a big webinar to our own list, made a bunch of money, which our dream 100 list made a bunch of money. And it wasn't till, I think we were probably year, year and a half into Clickfunnels before we ever bought our first ad. And before that it was all just focusing on those relationships we built through our own efforts. And so I think I would probably recommend something similar for you as you've done the first two steps. If you've done a summit, you got some relationships now, now it's like, okay, go and build your webinar or whatever the bigger one is. And now you can leverage your list and your relationships to launch it. And then from there you start transitioning to paid ads. Does that make sense? Ryan Peterson: Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much. That was invaluable. Russell: Very cool. No worries. Thanks for hanging out. Yhennifer: Awesome Ryan, thank you for being here. Now, we're going to bring up Mark. Mark helps real estate agents and teams to automate processes using workflows to scale their businesses while protecting their families time. Mark, what is your question? Welcome to the call today. Mark: Well, first off I just wanted to say thank you, thank you, thank you, Russell, for what you have done. Honestly, I am the product of the value ladder. I had zero comprehension of what you do and have done all these years until November. And I've spent the last 30 years developing software for real estate agents using what we call workflows and it's different than Funnels and stuff like that, but it has some similar. Not sure where I needed to go. And whenever I saw, I forget what it was that actually started at first, there was some kind of free thing that you had. Then I got the three books. I read through the three books. I did the one Funnel away challenge twice. We've already signed up for Funnel Hacking Live. I want to be on the two comma club by September, if not, I mean, it will be September of next year whenever you have it. But the whole idea of the frameworks that you brought to me, I just want to say thank you. Russell: That's awesome. Mark: It's just been amazing what it has spurred in my mind because of what you have taught, not only the free stuff but even the low level price stuff. I mean, just amazing. So I would love to buy you a dinner sometime and just take your brain. I know everybody else does too, but golly, you do not know what you have done to touch my life in the lives of my family. So just want to say thank you. Russell: That's amazing. I like you for that. I appreciate that. We've got a shot. If you would ask me a question to pick my brain right now, we got a moment. Mark: Well, you start talking about the frameworks and stuff, that was my biggest aha, was the frameworks, was the four core pieces of, four core strategies and I've come up with details and stuff. And right now it's just content. I'm just trying to build the content. And I am failing in providing that on a regular basis, but I'm in the muck of building other content. And I started the idea of building a book. And then you made some kind of comment in a previous thing. It's like, put that off until later. It's like, okay, I'll put that off the later. But I am building kind of the topics of that and that'll come eventually, but man, it's just like a light bulb went off and my energy has just gone through the roof. My wife is saying, who is this guy? Russell Brunson, because he has changed my husband. And it's just been amazing. So that's all I wanted to say. Which is thank you. Yhennifer: Okay. Russell: Thank you, man. I feel great. Thank you. Yhennifer: Russell, this is the part where you put the mic drop, you do the thing in the background. Russell: There we go. I appreciate it. Yhennifer: Thank you, Mark for being here. We appreciate you so much and see you at Funnel Hacking Live. Awesome. Russell: Absolutely. Yhennifer: Now, yeah, we're going to bring on Ms Bates. She is a certified life coach. Best-Selling author. Master EFT practitioner. Welcome today to this call. Let us know what you have for Russell. Any questions? Welcome. Ms Bates: Well, thank you. So Russell, I love you. I know it's a crazy way to start but, I just do. Oh my God. Yhennifer: That got real weird, real fast. Ms Bates: I know. It's just amazing. You have been such an inspiration to me. I'm a solopreneur and I'm just so grateful for everything that you've done and that you put out. Russell: Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Ms Bates: So here's my question. I'm a solopreneur and I've been working on different lead magnets. I've been testing different things like meditations or like do's and don'ts lists. But my question is once someone is in that Funnel, right, they go through that. My desire is to have them come to me for one-on-one coaching and then to put them into a group coaching program. And I'm wondering what the length of my email sequence should be. Russell: Got you. So walk me through what it looks like right now. So they come through a lead magnet and from there you're selling them into a high end thing. Is that right? That's the first thing? Ms Bates: Right. Russell: And what's the price point of the higher end thing? Ms Bates: The price point of the high end thing. It's a six months, $6,000. So if that is something that's out of their price range, then I down sell them into a group. Russell: Got you. And then what's the price on the group? Ms Bates: And the price on the group is 199 a month or 1997 for the year. Russell: Very cool. Do more people want to do the one-on-one work with you or the more do the group or is it kind of a just... Ms Bates: More people want to do the one-on-one work with me. I'm starting to try to move away because what I'm looking to do is scale, right? Which of course my time I can do more with a group than I can with the with the one-on-ones. So that's, I'm just trying to figure out how long I should be nurturing them? Russell: Yeah. The reality is especially those are the two core things you're selling. It's not so much how long do I do it for, it's part of everything you're doing right? It becomes part of your communication. You should be talking about it at everything. Do you know what I mean? For a long.. So it's not just like a 10 day or 30 day email sequence or whatever. It should be weaved into everything you're doing. So every communication, every email, every podcast, everything you're doing is always talking about these things and the people you have a chance to work with. I'd almost flip it around because you're going six... Are all the sales happening on the phone right now, or people buying just organically yet? Ms Bates: Nope. They're all happening on the phone. So it's all me like I'm doing the sales call, I'm doing everything. Russell: Is it what you got? Or do you like it? Ms Bates: I'm kind of falling in love with the sales part of it. So I want to get good at that before I outsource that. Russell: Yeah. Because I would almost flip it around a little bit where let's say, because you're saying you're into EFT as well, right? Is that what the coaching is based on that or something different? Ms Bates: Yeah, it primarily is based on that. Russell: Oh, very cool. So if I was doing it, I would make friends that are tied to specific things, right? Because I'm assuming you're doing tapping for, like you focusing on anything or is it like just kind of tapping as a whole? Ms Bates: Yeah. So for whatever reason, my focus has lately been it's multilevel marketing that are in the mid tier and they're having blocks getting to their next level. And so trauma resilience is a part of my passion and I know that those kinds of blocks show up for people. So I help people power through that and then get to the next level. Russell: Very cool. So I'd almost have something where the front end is tapping for trauma or for whatever it is, like something that comes in there. And then the first thing I would try to sell them is the $200 a month program. It's similar to that. I think that's if going to Annie Grace, she's the alcohol experiment. If you look at her model kind of Funnel hacker, that's what she's doing. She has a webinar right now that sells I think it's the same price 200 bucks a month. Or they can buy a year for, what is that? I think a year for 1997 for two grand, basically I believe is what her model is and that's where everyone goes through initially. She's not talking to those people, it's all being sold through a webinar and then after they've gone through like an hour long webinar, some signups some didn't. But then from there, the next part of the sequence is like, "Hey, if you're interested getting one-on-one help with me, go fill out the application here." And what'll happen is a couple of things, is it you'll start making money on a whole bunch of people you never talked to, which is nice, right? That's the first step. And the second step is that then when you start getting people on the phone, those people are going to be way easier to close because they sat through a 90 minute webinar with you. They’ve seen the value in those kinds of things. The craziest thing is when we... So I had my first big coaching program, my Inner Circle I ran that and it was a lot of work we had, I don't know, 20 or 30 people in it at a time. And then that's about time to Clickfunnels' launch. Clickfunnels launched. And it was a 90 minute webinars selling a thousand dollar product. And we started doing that like crazy. And then what was insane is that somebody will watch the 90 minute webinar side of Clickfunnels, found my coaching page on the thank you page and start applying. And my program went from 30 people to a hundred people in like two months. Like it was just caught on fire because the sales calls now easy. They're like, "We just watched Russell those 90 minutes. We want that." I was like, "Okay." And we're trying to sell them. Literally this is my credit card. I don't need any selling. It became so easy because the webinar pre-framed them. And again, not everyone's signed for coaching. Tons of people bought Clickfunnels there. And then the cream of the crop rose up and they came and they were ready. It's almost like if you flip your model a little bit, I bet you'd have more success because first off you going to making money off people who you haven't talked to you and the people you talk to, you're going to be more pre-framed to actually come in and buy from you. Ms Bates: Thank you. So the invitation initially is for the webinar or do I still put them through, like go through the freebie and then to the webinar and then to the group on, so you're up moving back this up, you're saying make the offer on the webinar for the group and then an application to one-on-one coaching. So that's my offer? Russell: Are you in a webinar right now or? Ms Bates: No, I'm not doing a webinar. Russell: So first thing I do is whatever you do and I'll keep doing it because you don't want that to stop. Like somebody to be like, take your eye off the ball. I keep doing that. Just it's working. Don't mess with that. So that's for sale. On the side, I would start creating webinars specifically to sell your $200 a month program. And then you start driving traffic directly to that and that'll become this new path. And then when that past making more money than the other one, then I would transition everything over. But don't mess with those working right now. Because it's working, I don't want to affect your business, but this is how I think long-term, this will become something that will be much more sustainable, more powerful for you. Does that make sense? So that's kind of how I would do it. Ms Bates: It does. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I love you again. Russell: No worries. Love you too. Thanks for hanging out. Yhennifer: Awesome, Ms. Bates, I'm glad that you got your question answered guys. Just a reminder, you guys can add some people onto this call. We're still going to be here for a few more minutes. We're so excited to be here. Guys? Russell is dropping some nuggets, okay? People pay thousands of dollars to get this coaching. So I'm so excited for all you guys that get a chance to ask Russell questions. So now we are going to bring Richard. Richard is that how you pronounce your name? He's a travel advisor. A key to the world travel, Disney destination expert. If I messed up your name, I'm sorry, but I hope I'm saying it correctly, but it's your turn. Welcome to the call. Richard: Thank you guys so much for having me through. You can call me, Rich. Everybody can call me Rich. That's fine. Yhennifer: Rich. Richard: So Russell, just want to say, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm currently rereading probably the third or four time Expert Secrets. I was in Own Your Future this past week. I was part of that lead challenge that you had, the five day lead challenge. I like in your world, bro. So just want to say, thank you. Russell: Thanks man. Glad to have you here. Richard: Yeah. So my question is really so as a travel agent really my value ladder is bringing leads in, educating them on the best, we'll take Disney for instance, the best Disney vacation ever, right? I provide value, value, value, and then they go through their trip and then after that it's pretty much done. So that's kind of like the result, right? If I was to say, a problem to solution. My question is for you, what else should I think about to really continue to bring more value? And really, I don't have like a $7 lead magnet to a $97 to a mastermind to Inner Circle, all that how should I be thinking about my value ladder? Russell: So right now taught value ladder, someone goes through is a Disney cruise or Disney trip, what exactly are they getting in the end? Richard: So doesn't matter. It could be Disney world vacation, Disney cruise, basically it's a vacation. Russell: Got you. One thing, so my family has done a bunch of Disney vacations. We just got back a little while ago from one and it was funny. We were joking. We did our first Disney cruise. Like when you get on the boat, there's the dudes with the big old Disney hand or Mickey mouse hands on their high five. And you're coming on and they're giving you drinks. This is amazing experience coming on, it's the photograph and you need to get on the boat. And then the boat's amazing. And then when the cruise is done, you get off and there's no one greeting you it's like dead. When you walk off, it's like they shove you out to the buses. And you're just like, "Wow. It's over that. That experience has ended really bad." And it was funny, because then the next time we're booking a cruise, right? The last thing you remember from Disney was just like horrible experience where it's just ended. And we're sitting by the buses waiting for our thing. It ended on this really down note as opposed to an up note. Richard: Oh no. Russell: And so then we're like, Worsley book cruise and right? Well, Disney was cool, but it's kind of weird at the end. And then, so we booked with a Norwegian next time or whatever. And so it's the little things like that. So like I would be looking at okay, because obviously in a business like that, people who do those things, do those things, right? We did Disney, we did the VIP tours, did all kind of stuff. And we spent a lot of money and it's awesome, and we had a great experience. And what's crazy to me just as a marketer is like, when we got done, they're like, all right, we'll see you. And I'm just like, you realize people come to Disney and pay for VIP tours, come to Disney and pay for VIP tours. I was like, why didn't somebody Jetta offers something right there and right. Or the next day, or call us next week. Like, how was the experience? What was it like? Nobody did that to me. And I was like, we probably would have been probably still will because the experience was great. We'll probably re-booking for whenever, but they could have doubled their money right then on the spot while we're at the peak of emotional intensity, as opposed to waiting further down the line, that'd be the first thing we're looking at is like, how do you capture that right? In a way that now you can like, get them booked on the next thing. Especially again, people are paying higher and stuff. They travel more often. It can be every six months they're looking for something like that. And that becomes this huge high ticket recurring program. That'd be the first thing I would kind of think through. Do you have a process now when someone finishes that you take them through to get them to re up for the next thing? Richard: Yeah. I'm working on my follow-up scripts right now. The email followups after they've gone through. And then, yeah, even just what you were saying, what happens now? What happens next? They're kind of like in this, I had an amazing experience and then kind of the experience kind of dies off. Russell: Yeah. Had to get that back up and because that'd be the biggest thing. Because now you're not going and finding a new lead, convincing them, you're going through a process like it's, you've got them. You just got to get them to it again. Mark Joyner, was my first mentor and his second book is called the Great Formula. And inside the book, he says the secret to successful businesses is getting your customers to take a second drink, right? The first drink is like, you just go through all this effort from the ad to the conversion, to everything for the first drink. And we got him and then we like forget about and go try to get more people to give him drinks. Like, no, they're like the money in your business, which just comes back to value ladders, is like the second drink, right? Because that's all pure profit. You don't have to get the ad. You don't have to do the stuff. They're already sold. You just got to ask them for a second drink. And it's shifting the focus to that. Because I'm assuming you got a lot of things happening on the front end. It's just, man, how do you get the second, third and fifth vacation? And who do they know that can vacation with them, right? Like we vacation with our friends now. And so it's like, we have a good experience. The next trip. Usually we're riding our friends. So it's like, Hey, let's build a bigger trip. Like who else can you bring? You bring your family, your friends, and crafting something with them where now that's just for you, it's just pure profit. Richard: Yeah. I'm even going through Expert Secrets. And I don't want to take up too much of the time. Sorry. Just even thinking about, who do I want to serve, right? I've been called to serve a certain group and I have that kind of my avatar down. And so it's just serving them. It's not just Disney cruises or Disney vacations. It's, "Hey, have you thought about an all-inclusive Cancun resort?" Something different but still an experience that they can have. And there like you said, I think I like what you said in terms of just keep that first drink, that second drink, that third drink. So maybe just thinking about my email or marketing afterwards, if it's a survey, if it's something and just say, "Hey, how was it? What'd you like about it? Hey, did you know that this is happening? And you can book this next time." Russell: Oh yeah. I think even pre-building a trip. My wife would get stuff sometimes in email, or she'll see people, our friends on social media who posts these pictures from this trip. And then she's, "Oh, where'd they go?" And she'll call them up and find out. And then we ended up going that same trip. We would do those kinds of things versus like, Hey, here's getting them to socially share trip with other people. And then vice versa is like you coming to them like, Hey, so inside of our community here, we've got this community of, I don't know, whatever you call them are our community of travelers, right? And here's someone just went to Mexico, check out what they get in, check out this trip. And here's four or five people on trips. If you want info on these trips, let me know we can connect you with the same thing. But look at these pictures from everybody and creating a culture like that, where everybody is kind of sharing their trips amongst each other. And then you're the one that's booking them back and forth and it can be really cool. Richard: I'm actually building the Facebook group right now. And that's where I'm funneling every everyone too. So that I can go live there. I can go talk to people and just tell them, "Hey, these people went on this trip." And then have them come on as a Zoom call and just talk about their trip and what they liked and maybe inspire others to book that same trip. Russell: Nice. Awesome, man. That's very cool. What a fun business. Richard: Thank you. Thank you very much. And like I said, thank you so much for all you did for me and just all the value you provide. Russell: Oh, no worries. I appreciate that. Yhennifer: Thank you. Rich. Thank you for being here. We're going to bring on JJ. JJ has helped celebrities, artists, big brands and media companies create over 650 million in revenue by building relationships, my favorite thing in the world. What questions do you have for us so JJ? JJ: Oh my God it's Russell. What's up Russell? All right. So how many questions? What's my limit? What's my limit here. Yhennifer: You get one. JJ: I get one. Oh, God. I got to make this good. Russell: Don't mess it up. JJ: Really long one or really short one? Russell: We'll see. Give us the first one first. Just kidding. JJ: All right. On a serious note. So before you hired the best community manager in the world, and brought her on your team, how did you build those relationships with, I mean, your company blew up, I've been watching you from the beginning and I mean, within just a year or two, you blow up faster than almost anybody in the digital space. How did you keep those connections and build those connections and keep that community strong? I mean, you have the biggest, and I hate to say the four letter word, cult, behind you in the world when it comes to software. How did you do that in your value ladder? Russell: That's such a great question. And it's funny because Dave would have, you guys know he's now the CEO Clickfunnels has been for the last almost a year now. He does a great job, but it's funny because he'll go off call and coming to me, he's like, man, Russell, you've dug your wells so deep. He's like people just say yes to anything I ask them to do. And I think it was what you understand is that people, depending on when you came into my world, when people come in, it's like you see something, you saw Clickfunnels, you saw this, you saw this. But what people don't know is that I was in this game for man probably, I mean, years now, 10, 12 years before we launched Clickfunnels. And that time was doing that building relationships. In fact, I joked at the very beginning of this, I've been doing this so long, before Facebook, before MySpace, like Friendster was the hot social network when I was in college, when I started this game. And Friendster did not have an ad platform, Google had an ad platform, but a year into my business, they the Google slap happened and it ended. So I had a decade where we were not able to buy ads. There was nowhere to buy ads. You can buy banner ads kind of, but they didn't work that well. And so all I could do, the only way to get traffic was through relationships. And so I went to every event. I have to go to events and find out who the people that have traffic. And this is for me, it's hard because I'm super introverted and scared to death of people. And so what I did is I found extroverts who I liked. I said, "Hey, come to this event, I'll pay for you to go with me." And we go to these events. I'm like, okay, I have to meet all these people because they have traffic. These people have email lists and they got a blog and they got these different things. And I spent a decade of doing that, right, of going and talking to people, getting to know them, building relationships using the assets I had to help them to promote them, to either promote their stuff or to help them with different things wherever I could do. And so I spent a lot of time doing that. I think that's what people don't understand. They think that like, oh, he came out of nowhere. It just blew up. It's no, I spent so much time going out and building relationships. So when Clickfunnels came about, it was nice because it wasn't me just cold calling and Hey, you're who I am yet, but you should pro Clickfunnels. It was like, Hey, this is Russell, and we're friends and this is this project I'm working on. What do you think about? What would you do if you were me and the most amazing minds in the world, sharing with me what they would do, if it was them and giving me ideas and strategies and then they felt like they were part of it when we launched it and rolled it out. And so I think that's a big part of it, obviously you're tied into the relationship side of things, but I don't think people put enough effort into that. They focus on the quick ask, the quick wins. And not like, how do I actually build a real relationship? I was telling someone because we were last week at the Dean and Tony launch and somebody asked me, how'd you get to know Tony Robbins? How did you know? And I was like, "Well, I spent 12 years of my life serving him in any way I could, before I ever asked him for anything." It was 12 years of like, let me just help him and help him and help him. And since then, man, he's done so much promoting the last three or four years. But it came from a decade of building relationship. And I think you can build a relationship faster than that. Tony's obviously super human and the hardest person on earth to get a hold of. But it comes with leading first, serving and having to help people and getting to know people and stuff like that. So, yeah, it was a lot of digging my well, before we launched ClickFunnels. JJ: Well thank you for saying that you're on the stage. Because you come into some of these clubhouse rooms and you get these marketers, "Oh, you got to buy ads. You've got to buy ads." I didn't buy ads for 10 years, myself. I mean, you know Brad Hart. I work with Brad Hart now. He didn't buy ads for the first five years of his business and build those relationships first. Thank you for saying that. But honestly you really, I mean, I think leveled up your game by hiring a community manager. She's up on the stage. She's keeps your community engaged. Love Yhennifer. So throwing some love towards Yhennifer. So my second question... Yhennifer: It has to be quick, Jay. JJ: It's fast. You can beat me later. What is your favorite Oreo cookie? Russell: My favorite Oreo cookie. So actually when Collette and I got married, they toilet paper our car, we were driving out and they got Oreos and they stuck them to the side of the car, but the Oreos had pop rocks inside the frosting. And I remember pulling off the car and I was like, "This is disgusting, but I love pop rocks." And so, yeah. And I don't think I've seen pop rock Oreo frosting since then. But if they ever bring it back, I will be the first in line. So that'd probably be my favorite. I don't know. JJ: Oh. Yhennifer: That was a good one. Russell: That was worth it. Yhennifer: You guys heard it. You guys heard it first. If you find that out there, go ship it to the Clickfunnels headquarters, because boss we'll be happy. Russell: Oh man. Yhennifer: That was so good. All right. My girl McCall. McCall is the founder of Charisma Hacking. What question or anything you want to add? Russell: And hold on. And she's a speaker at this year's Funnel Hacking Live event. Yhennifer: Are you going to to be there? I'm so excited. First of all, before we get McCall to talk, guys, if you have not bought your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live, go to funnelhackinglive.com, get your tickets and I'll see you guys there. McCall, the mic is yours. McCall Jones: Oh my gosh. Hi friends. Thanks so much. I was just going to add two things that helped the value ladder really make sense for me in the last year and a half. Since I started this. Russell, you know I study everything that you do. And the first thing that I did was read.comsecrets. Something that was a little bit hard for me at the beginning that, I mean, you teach on all these things, but it was the one product will create the problem that the next one will solve. And the first thing that I thought was like, "Oh my gosh, I have to create those problems. And I have to create those problems for people to ascend my value ladder." You had said something, I don't remember if it was in a podcast or I just heard you speak on a live somewhere, but you talked about the customer Ascension ladder and kind of the education part of it. And it put it all into perspective for me of the way that all of the sudden, I was able to shift my mind instead of being like, "Hey, you have to create problems from the bottom up and the problems that one will solve, it will open up a new problem to create the next product and all of that." Instead I thought, "Okay, the customer Ascension, where do you eventually want people to go?" So your Inner Circle and your category Kings and all of that, and then map out the steps that it takes to get there. And then with each program, with each step of the value ladder, it's just like, "Oh, what do you need to educate people on in order for them to want to join the next program, right? So it's an educational process that helped me with the very bottom of it, because I know that I think it was Ryan was talking about summits and creating consistent content and all of that. When I put it into education, all of a sudden the bottom of the value ladder made so much more sense to me because at the beginning, nobody knew what gurus Maggie was, right. It was like what the heck was that? Russell: You had invented a new term. Yeah. McCall Jones: Yeah. It was like, this is crazy. And it's hard to do that, right. You know you're in a really scary place in business where you're trying to solve a problem that people don't think that they have. And this education kind of form of this value ladder when you said that it really helped me think like, "Oh, okay. The bottom of my evaluator needs to be educating on my frameworks." So my whole opt-in bottom of the value ladder, what people can do with podcasts or the video content they're creating the summits, all those kinds of things. If they're consistently educating on their frameworks at the bottom, right? They first let people know what they're doing, right? And the problem that they're solving. And then from there, it's like, okay, now that you know what the problem is, and you can accurately say, oh, I do have that problem. Wow. Then you can move them up into paid products, and you can continue to educate them until they get to the highest level. But that was the thing that helped me the most, because at first with the problems, it was just hard for my brain to kind of wrap around it. And then it was like, oh, if you can accurately help somebody get through one specific step and then educate them on what they need to know in order to join the next program, then they will continue to ascend your value ladder because they will have a problem that's solved and they will have the education they need in order to address that they have a new problem. So that was something that helped me. Yeah. Guys, come to Funnel Hacking Live. You have to be there. Russell: Yeah. The thing I would add to that too, is like, I think a lot of times people are so stressed. I got to figure all these pieces and all the things. And one thing that I noticed when I first started doing this and I've noticed other people's that a lot of times you don't know what the next thing is until you start doing your thing, right? You start selling your product. For me, it was funnels, funnels, funnels. I wrote the book, we created a software and all sorts of stuff, that was it, right? That was the plan. And then as people started signing up and they buy the book and buy the funnels, then it was the next question kept coming and coming, it wasn't me making this up. It was like, oh, here's the question that everybody keeps asking like, okay, how do I solve that problem? How do I solve that problem? So the customers will bring you the problem. You don't have to invent them. You just do your thing in the best of your ability. And then listen. And if you listen, then the next thing will come to you and you know exactly what to do so. McCall Jones: Another really interesting, I'm so sorry. I just will be really fast. But at the beginning, I've built these frameworks for 20 years, but I didn't know what my people needed. And if you try to force what you know on people, instead of what they need, then your products won't sell, right. But instead it was exactly what you said, as far as finding your voice, the same thing was, I think it was Dave who just popped into this room, Hi Dave? It's about finding your frameworks, right? So creating your content and making sure that you're publishing on a consistent basis. It's creating these frameworks and refining them and seeing what sticks for people. And then it's not just like, well, I know this, that's what I should create a product around. It's like, no, no, no. People will listen. And they will. It's exactly what you said. They will tell you that market research is so invaluable. And then in that next program, if you're building it from the ground up, then you educate them. You listen to their problems and you let them ask questions and then they will reveal what that next product needs to be. Super interesting. Russell: Very cool. Well, thanks for call. Excited to see you again soon at funnel hacking live with all of you guys here who are listening in as well. I hope it's going to be amazing. Yhennifer: Awesome guys. Make sure that you click on that little greenhouse, make sure that you're following the Marketing Secrets Live Club. There's going to be many more. Right, Russell? Russell: Yeah, this was actually really fun. I hope... Did you enjoy Yhennifer? That was fun. Yhennifer: It was amazing obviously, listening to you. The value that you provide and also being able to speak to our funnel hackers here that we're excited to chat with you. Russell: Yeah. So I think the game plan we're going to try and keep news a few times. If it sticks, then we'll keep doing it. But I actually really enjoyed not just talking about topic and pushing the podcast. That was nice to get feedback or questions or like getting McCall, like doubling down. Like it's something I learned that helped me to make sense. And that was way more valuable to have that a as actual application of the concept, not just the concept. So I loved it. It was fun. So we'll let you guys know kind of moving forward when we'll keep doing these. But that was awesome. So thank you so much for helping facilitate it and make it all happen. Thank you guys all for listening. And will let you guys know when the next party is going to start. And I think, hold on, I got an outro. Should I do an outro? Yhennifer: Wait, before you put that outro, like do one of those money signs, money noises, things. Russell: Let's see. Yhennifer: Come on you got the buttons over there. Russell: There's a button there… We got… We're so funny. Yhennifer: That is amazing. All right. So we're going to close out with this out show. Thank you so much guys, for being here. See you guys in the next one. Russell: All right. Thanks everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Register for the next LIVE episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com

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Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up everybody. It's Russell. Welcome back. I hope you liked the last episode. What you think about a live version of the marketing secret show? Anyway I hope you guys enjoyed it. First off, I think it brings a different energy level. When I know it's live, I got to show off to all the people I get to see their faces. It's hopefully you guys enjoyed that part of it. And hopefully, went to clubhousewithrussell.com and when registered so that you, that way, when we do the next live podcast, you can be on it. So that's the first thing. And then number two is, this episode we're actually going to share the Q and A's, there's about 40 minutes of Q and A with people who were there. And so in the future, if you want me to answer your questions, like, come on the show, go to the clubhouse with russell.com register, show up on the show, and then I'll talk about a concept and then we'll open the lines for Q and A.

And you see some people got hot seats coaching sessions during this Q and A, which is really fun. But I think the reason I want to share these with you here, because I think most of the conversations that happened, there's something that each of you could learn from those conversations. So I hope you enjoy it. And again, if you do, make sure again, go to clubhousewithrussel.com and register, and that way you can potentially be on our next live show and get your questions answered. So with that said, theme song, we come back, you guys will have a chance to do the Q and A, for part two from our last episode, which we talked about the real secret behind the value ladder, and you hear everybody's questions and hopefully we get some gold for you in the conversations. With that said, queue up the theme song, and we'll see you guys soon.

I don't normally do a lot of Q and A cause I just always get nervous that someone's going to ask me one of those questions. And so, but we're going to do it. Yhennifer, is going to help me out here. We're going to bring some of you guys up to stage. So if you've actually... Yhennifer, what's the process, they want to ask a question to come stage, they have feedback, or they want to talk about their value ladder or whatever, what's the process? How do we play this game?

Yhennifer: Yeah. So let's do this. So this is the process guys. There is the little hand in the bottom. I see it going up the numbers. So make sure that if you want to ask a question or add on to this conversation and bring some value, you can actually raise your hand. We'll start bringing up five people at a time, and then we will let you ask your questions. So make sure that you also invite some new people, right? We can still invite people as we're here on this call. Everybody will get a chance to listen in this awesome value. And then one more thing I want to share before we bring people up, is that a reminder that this is being recorded, so this conversation is going to be recorded and let's see, we're going to bring up a few people as you come on here, please mute yourself. And we'll unmute you one at a time, that way there is no static in the background.

Yhennifer: Okay. All right. We got a few people that we invited on this stage. So we'll start with the first one, Stacy. Stacy is a health coach Institute founding partner, bootstrap from startup to 270 amazing team members. So welcome Stacy to the call. We're so excited to have you here. What question do you have for Russell?

Stacy: Hi Russell.

Russell: Hi Stacy?

Stacy: I haven't followed you in a long, long time so I'm excited to finally get to talk to you.

Russell: Oh, really good.

Stacy: My question is when you are first introducing someone into your ecosystem and you have this product suite, do you have a value ladder that you present at the beginning? So just real quick, ours is, we have a call center, so we're doing cold traffic to a call center basically. I mean, we have a Funnel in all of that, but just in the beginning, people seem surprised that we're a school. So they take the initial program and that there'll be graduate programs on non and ours are all pretty high ticket offers. We're not doing $27. Our first program is like $5,000, but still we want them to be able to ascend. And so do you have an Ascension map and saying, "Hey, you're going to be here for the long term. Here's what it looks like."

Russell: Yeah, definitely.

Stacy: That makes sense question.

Russell: Good question. So a couple of things. So I'm going to answer two folks. One of them answers your question. One will answer probably people whose businesses may not have started at 5,000. So I'll kind of answer both ways and then we can go deeper. But so in our world we have so many front end offers because I love creating front end offers. And so we're driving traffic to front end offers plus the events all over the place. And so what happens to someone, they couldn't click on an ad and they made the first thing they see is just our events or a high-end coaching, excuse me, or something like that.

So whenever they do that, it goes through that initial sequence of three or four emails that are tied to that Funnel. And then they're done, it drops them into a followup Funnel that starts at the very beginning of our value ladder. And so it's a 60 email sequence that I wrote that I sat down and said, "Okay. If my mom was to come into my world, she doesn't want a Funnel. Is she barely knows an Instagram is, what would be the process? How would I grab her hand and take her through this process? What would it look like?" And so the first thing I would do is I would show her this video on YouTube that I did that actually explains this concept. Then number two, I would show her my book. Number three, I would have listen to these three podcasts episodes. Number four...

And I sat down and mapped that out, where I would take my mom if she was coming into my world for the very first time. And so we wrote that out and it took a long time. It was kind of a pain, but it was worth it. We wrote a six email sequence that takes them through all of the Funnels and the videos and the podcast things in order that I think is the best strategic order. So I'm go through them and a rolled those out put them in a sequence. And now everyone joins my world. They may get like one or two emails about whatever the thing is that they registered for. And it was done. It drops into that sequence and it takes them through the path that slowly sends them through all the core offers and training and everything we have a in the most strategic order. So that's kind of the first half of it.

The second side, I think you were more talking about is when someone comes in and they pay 5,000 and you have this Ascension yeah, for me, I used to have multiple high-end coaching programs until a year and a half ago, or maybe two years ago, we took down the Inner Circle, but at Funnel Hacking Live, we're kind of reopening three programs. We have our two Common Club X our Inner Circle in our category Kings. And inside of that, everyone's going to know that like, here's the Ascension, right?

If you're a zero to a million dollars before you got a two comma club award, this is where you live, you live in two comma club X until you've gotten that. And you've earned it, now you move up to Inner Circle. And the Inner Circles from a million to 10 million, that's where you live to get 10 million. And from there, you send up to a category King and so they see that and it's in front of them. And the more you talk about it, the more you mentioned it, the more people naturally want to send up. In fact, when I launched my Inner Circle, most of the marketing happened on my podcast.

I would just talk about my Inner Circle members all the time. And people start messaging me. Like, "I just want to be in the inner circle so bad." And they kept seeing that that was the essential naturally wanted to go. And so I just talked about all the time. I put those people on my stages. I told stories about them and the books I told about them. And I was always just talking about my Inner Circle members. And naturally, people keep seeing that. And they certain wanting to, this is what I want to go. This is the path. This is the journey I want to go on. And so, anyway, I don't know if that answers your question, but that's kind of how we structure it for people to be able to see.

Stacy: You did. You just totally sparked something for me that I wasn't thinking about before. Thank you so much.

Russell: Sweet. Well, great to meet you officially. Thanks for hanging out.

Yhennifer: Thank you Stacy for being here. Awesome. So now we're going to move on to Ryan Peterson. So Ryan is a digital marketing strategist, voice of the Entrepreneur Secrets Podcast and holds up the one percent summit. Welcome Ryan.

Ryan Peterson: Hey, I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me up. Yeah. Russell, my question which is people who are starting out start on their value ladder. I mean, mapping it out is one thing, but where should I really focus my efforts and energy to get the most value, I guess for myself?

Russell: So wait, say that again, your phone broke up a little bit. So you're saying you have your value out, you mapped it out. Where should you be focusing on? Is that what you said?

Ryan Peterson: Yes. Exactly. Like what stage of the value ladder should I be focusing on?

Russell: So show me where your business is right now. How much do you have built out? Where's it at right now?

Ryan Peterson: Yeah, so right now, I have a podcast that is been a little difficult to going to create content daily and whatnot with had a baby recently in any way. And then I had a summit that I launched was a lot of fun and what I realized I don't have a next stage of my value ladder built out yet. And sitting back and thinking about it. I figured I should have thought out kind of the more pillars of my value ladder before I really start on the front end. And I'm assuming I was probably premature in building out the beginning of my value ladder without something more valuable towards the end, if that makes sense.

Russell: Got you. I know where that's coming from. So I'd say a couple of things. I do think it's important people to start publishing and doing a summit or something initially, just because it gets momentum, gets you talking to people, finding your voice, like in our coaching programs, we start with that. But then the next thing is, you're saying, where do I make money, right? Where should I focus at? And so it's funny because when I first, this is like always been my biggest fear with talking about a value ladder is, if I can remember when I wrote the Dotcom Secrets Book, my first group of people that came into coaching afterwards was like, "Okay, Russell. So first I'm going to write my book, then I'm going to do my thing. And when they had the whole value ladder and all the stuff they were going to do."

And I was like, "Wait, what?" The book is the hardest thing ever. Took me a decade to write a book. Don't start there. That was the biggest thing. Or they were trying to get all the things in place before the launch, any of it. And I'm a big believer nowadays. I try to guide as many people as possible. It's like, "Start at the very beginning." Where if you're doing a summit, doing podcasts, whatever, just to get the motion, getting into momentum. And then for me, the thing that I think is the best and just can be different for everybody. But for me, it's doing something about the thousand dollar price point and doing a webinar for it, right? Because I obviously love webinars, but that's where I focus at. Or if...

I guess partially depends on the skill set of the entrepreneur, right? If you think you can be good at a webinar, that's where I would lead as my first big thing that I'm going to be spending a lot of money on, driving traffic and stuff like that. Some people are better on phone, right? If that's the case, I've started the higher ticket offer. Some people are horrible on the phone, horrible presenters, if so, I would do more of a traditional sales Funnel, where it's more written copy and stuff like that, kind of depending on your skill set, but I would definitely be picking one of those. I don't think you did out of order.

I think the order's correct. I think it's starting publishing, is doing a summit because the summit introduced you as your dream 100, you get to know people, you start building a little bit of list. And now with that list, now you're able to go back and say, "Okay. Hey guys, my webinars starting come registered for my webinar. You have a chance to test it against traffic who knows who you are." And the second phase is, "Okay, here's all the people I interviewed in my summit. Now it's dream 100. Now, let's do a promotion to each of their lists, promoting the webinar, right?" And then that starts getting webinars better and cleaner and more efficient. And then the third step now is like, "Okay, I promote to my list. I promoted my dream one hundreds of lists. Now I'm going to go out and start buying Facebook ads or buying traffic to push people to the webinar." That's literally how we launched Clickfunnels. It was exactly that, right?

I spent a lot of time building relationships with people through summits and other things. And then when Clickfunnels launched, we did a big webinar to our own list, made a bunch of money, which our dream 100 list made a bunch of money. And it wasn't till, I think we were probably year, year and a half into Clickfunnels before we ever bought our first ad. And before that it was all just focusing on those relationships we built through our own efforts. And so I think I would probably recommend something similar for you as you've done the first two steps. If you've done a summit, you got some relationships now, now it's like, okay, go and build your webinar or whatever the bigger one is. And now you can leverage your list and your relationships to launch it. And then from there you start transitioning to paid ads. Does that make sense?

Ryan Peterson: Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much. That was invaluable.

Russell: Very cool. No worries. Thanks for hanging out.

Yhennifer: Awesome Ryan, thank you for being here. Now, we're going to bring up Mark. Mark helps real estate agents and teams to automate processes using workflows to scale their businesses while protecting their families time. Mark, what is your question? Welcome to the call today.

Mark: Well, first off I just wanted to say thank you, thank you, thank you, Russell, for what you have done. Honestly, I am the product of the value ladder. I had zero comprehension of what you do and have done all these years until November. And I've spent the last 30 years developing software for real estate agents using what we call workflows and it's different than Funnels and stuff like that, but it has some similar. Not sure where I needed to go. And whenever I saw, I forget what it was that actually started at first, there was some kind of free thing that you had. Then I got the three books. I read through the three books. I did the one Funnel away challenge twice. We've already signed up for Funnel Hacking Live. I want to be on the two comma club by September, if not, I mean, it will be September of next year whenever you have it. But the whole idea of the frameworks that you brought to me, I just want to say thank you.

Russell: That's awesome.

Mark: It's just been amazing what it has spurred in my mind because of what you have taught, not only the free stuff but even the low level price stuff. I mean, just amazing. So I would love to buy you a dinner sometime and just take your brain. I know everybody else does too, but golly, you do not know what you have done to touch my life in the lives of my family. So just want to say thank you.

Russell: That's amazing. I like you for that. I appreciate that. We've got a shot. If you would ask me a question to pick my brain right now, we got a moment.

Mark: Well, you start talking about the frameworks and stuff, that was my biggest aha, was the frameworks, was the four core pieces of, four core strategies and I've come up with details and stuff. And right now it's just content. I'm just trying to build the content. And I am failing in providing that on a regular basis, but I'm in the muck of building other content. And I started the idea of building a book. And then you made some kind of comment in a previous thing. It's like, put that off until later. It's like, okay, I'll put that off the later. But I am building kind of the topics of that and that'll come eventually, but man, it's just like a light bulb went off and my energy has just gone through the roof. My wife is saying, who is this guy? Russell Brunson, because he has changed my husband. And it's just been amazing. So that's all I wanted to say. Which is thank you.

Yhennifer: Okay.

Russell: Thank you, man. I feel great. Thank you.

Yhennifer: Russell, this is the part where you put the mic drop, you do the thing in the background.

Russell: There we go. I appreciate it.

Yhennifer: Thank you, Mark for being here. We appreciate you so much and see you at Funnel Hacking Live. Awesome.

Russell: Absolutely.

Yhennifer: Now, yeah, we're going to bring on Ms Bates. She is a certified life coach. Best-Selling author. Master EFT practitioner. Welcome today to this call. Let us know what you have for Russell. Any questions? Welcome.

Ms Bates: Well, thank you. So Russell, I love you. I know it's a crazy way to start but, I just do. Oh my God.

Yhennifer: That got real weird, real fast.

Ms Bates: I know. It's just amazing. You have been such an inspiration to me. I'm a solopreneur and I'm just so grateful for everything that you've done and that you put out.

Russell: Oh, thank you. I appreciate that.

Ms Bates: So here's my question. I'm a solopreneur and I've been working on different lead magnets. I've been testing different things like meditations or like do's and don'ts lists. But my question is once someone is in that Funnel, right, they go through that. My desire is to have them come to me for one-on-one coaching and then to put them into a group coaching program. And I'm wondering what the length of my email sequence should be.

Russell: Got you. So walk me through what it looks like right now. So they come through a lead magnet and from there you're selling them into a high end thing. Is that right? That's the first thing?

Ms Bates: Right.

Russell: And what's the price point of the higher end thing?

Ms Bates: The price point of the high end thing. It's a six months, $6,000. So if that is something that's out of their price range, then I down sell them into a group.

Russell: Got you. And then what's the price on the group?

Ms Bates: And the price on the group is 199 a month or 1997 for the year.

Russell: Very cool. Do more people want to do the one-on-one work with you or the more do the group or is it kind of a just...

Ms Bates: More people want to do the one-on-one work with me. I'm starting to try to move away because what I'm looking to do is scale, right? Which of course my time I can do more with a group than I can with the with the one-on-ones. So that's, I'm just trying to figure out how long I should be nurturing them?

Russell: Yeah. The reality is especially those are the two core things you're selling. It's not so much how long do I do it for, it's part of everything you're doing right? It becomes part of your communication. You should be talking about it at everything. Do you know what I mean? For a long.. So it's not just like a 10 day or 30 day email sequence or whatever. It should be weaved into everything you're doing. So every communication, every email, every podcast, everything you're doing is always talking about these things and the people you have a chance to work with. I'd almost flip it around because you're going six... Are all the sales happening on the phone right now, or people buying just organically yet?

Ms Bates: Nope. They're all happening on the phone. So it's all me like I'm doing the sales call, I'm doing everything.

Russell: Is it what you got? Or do you like it?

Ms Bates: I'm kind of falling in love with the sales part of it. So I want to get good at that before I outsource that.

Russell: Yeah. Because I would almost flip it around a little bit where let's say, because you're saying you're into EFT as well, right? Is that what the coaching is based on that or something different?

Ms Bates: Yeah, it primarily is based on that.

Russell: Oh, very cool. So if I was doing it, I would make friends that are tied to specific things, right? Because I'm assuming you're doing tapping for, like you focusing on anything or is it like just kind of tapping as a whole?

Ms Bates: Yeah. So for whatever reason, my focus has lately been it's multilevel marketing that are in the mid tier and they're having blocks getting to their next level. And so trauma resilience is a part of my passion and I know that those kinds of blocks show up for people. So I help people power through that and then get to the next level.

Russell: Very cool. So I'd almost have something where the front end is tapping for trauma or for whatever it is, like something that comes in there. And then the first thing I would try to sell them is the $200 a month program. It's similar to that. I think that's if going to Annie Grace, she's the alcohol experiment. If you look at her model kind of Funnel hacker, that's what she's doing. She has a webinar right now that sells I think it's the same price 200 bucks a month. Or they can buy a year for, what is that? I think a year for 1997 for two grand, basically I believe is what her model is and that's where everyone goes through initially. She's not talking to those people, it's all being sold through a webinar and then after they've gone through like an hour long webinar, some signups some didn't.

But then from there, the next part of the sequence is like, "Hey, if you're interested getting one-on-one help with me, go fill out the application here." And what'll happen is a couple of things, is it you'll start making money on a whole bunch of people you never talked to, which is nice, right? That's the first step. And the second step is that then when you start getting people on the phone, those people are going to be way easier to close because they sat through a 90 minute webinar with you. They’ve seen the value in those kinds of things.

The craziest thing is when we... So I had my first big coaching program, my Inner Circle I ran that and it was a lot of work we had, I don't know, 20 or 30 people in it at a time. And then that's about time to Clickfunnels' launch. Clickfunnels launched. And it was a 90 minute webinars selling a thousand dollar product. And we started doing that like crazy. And then what was insane is that somebody will watch the 90 minute webinar side of Clickfunnels, found my coaching page on the thank you page and start applying. And my program went from 30 people to a hundred people in like two months. Like it was just caught on fire because the sales calls now easy. They're like, "We just watched Russell those 90 minutes. We want that."

I was like, "Okay." And we're trying to sell them. Literally this is my credit card. I don't need any selling. It became so easy because the webinar pre-framed them. And again, not everyone's signed for coaching. Tons of people bought Clickfunnels there. And then the cream of the crop rose up and they came and they were ready. It's almost like if you flip your model a little bit, I bet you'd have more success because first off you going to making money off people who you haven't talked to you and the people you talk to, you're going to be more pre-framed to actually come in and buy from you.

Ms Bates: Thank you. So the invitation initially is for the webinar or do I still put them through, like go through the freebie and then to the webinar and then to the group on, so you're up moving back this up, you're saying make the offer on the webinar for the group and then an application to one-on-one coaching. So that's my offer?

Russell: Are you in a webinar right now or?

Ms Bates: No, I'm not doing a webinar.

Russell: So first thing I do is whatever you do and I'll keep doing it because you don't want that to stop. Like somebody to be like, take your eye off the ball. I keep doing that. Just it's working. Don't mess with that. So that's for sale. On the side, I would start creating webinars specifically to sell your $200 a month program. And then you start driving traffic directly to that and that'll become this new path. And then when that past making more money than the other one, then I would transition everything over. But don't mess with those working right now. Because it's working, I don't want to affect your business, but this is how I think long-term, this will become something that will be much more sustainable, more powerful for you. Does that make sense? So that's kind of how I would do it.

Ms Bates: It does. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I love you again.

Russell: No worries. Love you too. Thanks for hanging out.

Yhennifer: Awesome, Ms. Bates, I'm glad that you got your question answered guys. Just a reminder, you guys can add some people onto this call. We're still going to be here for a few more minutes. We're so excited to be here. Guys? Russell is dropping some nuggets, okay? People pay thousands of dollars to get this coaching. So I'm so excited for all you guys that get a chance to ask Russell questions. So now we are going to bring Richard. Richard is that how you pronounce your name? He's a travel advisor. A key to the world travel, Disney destination expert. If I messed up your name, I'm sorry, but I hope I'm saying it correctly, but it's your turn. Welcome to the call.

Richard: Thank you guys so much for having me through. You can call me, Rich. Everybody can call me Rich. That's fine.

Yhennifer: Rich.

Richard: So Russell, just want to say, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm currently rereading probably the third or four time Expert Secrets. I was in Own Your Future this past week. I was part of that lead challenge that you had, the five day lead challenge. I like in your world, bro. So just want to say, thank you.

Russell: Thanks man. Glad to have you here.

Richard: Yeah. So my question is really so as a travel agent really my value ladder is bringing leads in, educating them on the best, we'll take Disney for instance, the best Disney vacation ever, right? I provide value, value, value, and then they go through their trip and then after that it's pretty much done. So that's kind of like the result, right? If I was to say, a problem to solution. My question is for you, what else should I think about to really continue to bring more value? And really, I don't have like a $7 lead magnet to a $97 to a mastermind to Inner Circle, all that how should I be thinking about my value ladder?

Russell: So right now taught value ladder, someone goes through is a Disney cruise or Disney trip, what exactly are they getting in the end?

Richard: So doesn't matter. It could be Disney world vacation, Disney cruise, basically it's a vacation.

Russell: Got you. One thing, so my family has done a bunch of Disney vacations. We just got back a little while ago from one and it was funny. We were joking. We did our first Disney cruise. Like when you get on the boat, there's the dudes with the big old Disney hand or Mickey mouse hands on their high five. And you're coming on and they're giving you drinks. This is amazing experience coming on, it's the photograph and you need to get on the boat. And then the boat's amazing. And then when the cruise is done, you get off and there's no one greeting you it's like dead. When you walk off, it's like they shove you out to the buses. And you're just like, "Wow. It's over that. That experience has ended really bad."

And it was funny, because then the next time we're booking a cruise, right? The last thing you remember from Disney was just like horrible experience where it's just ended. And we're sitting by the buses waiting for our thing. It ended on this really down note as opposed to an up note.

Richard: Oh no.

Russell: And so then we're like, Worsley book cruise and right? Well, Disney was cool, but it's kind of weird at the end. And then, so we booked with a Norwegian next time or whatever. And so it's the little things like that. So like I would be looking at okay, because obviously in a business like that, people who do those things, do those things, right? We did Disney, we did the VIP tours, did all kind of stuff. And we spent a lot of money and it's awesome, and we had a great experience. And what's crazy to me just as a marketer is like, when we got done, they're like, all right, we'll see you. And I'm just like, you realize people come to Disney and pay for VIP tours, come to Disney and pay for VIP tours. I was like, why didn't somebody Jetta offers something right there and right. Or the next day, or call us next week. Like, how was the experience? What was it like? Nobody did that to me. And I was like, we probably would have been probably still will because the experience was great.

We'll probably re-booking for whenever, but they could have doubled their money right then on the spot while we're at the peak of emotional intensity, as opposed to waiting further down the line, that'd be the first thing we're looking at is like, how do you capture that right? In a way that now you can like, get them booked on the next thing. Especially again, people are paying higher and stuff. They travel more often. It can be every six months they're looking for something like that. And that becomes this huge high ticket recurring program. That'd be the first thing I would kind of think through. Do you have a process now when someone finishes that you take them through to get them to re up for the next thing?

Richard: Yeah. I'm working on my follow-up scripts right now. The email followups after they've gone through. And then, yeah, even just what you were saying, what happens now? What happens next? They're kind of like in this, I had an amazing experience and then kind of the experience kind of dies off.

Russell: Yeah. Had to get that back up and because that'd be the biggest thing. Because now you're not going and finding a new lead, convincing them, you're going through a process like it's, you've got them. You just got to get them to it again. Mark Joyner, was my first mentor and his second book is called the Great Formula. And inside the book, he says the secret to successful businesses is getting your customers to take a second drink, right? The first drink is like, you just go through all this effort from the ad to the conversion, to everything for the first drink. And we got him and then we like forget about and go try to get more people to give him drinks. Like, no, they're like the money in your business, which just comes back to value ladders, is like the second drink, right?

Because that's all pure profit. You don't have to get the ad. You don't have to do the stuff. They're already sold. You just got to ask them for a second drink. And it's shifting the focus to that. Because I'm assuming you got a lot of things happening on the front end. It's just, man, how do you get the second, third and fifth vacation? And who do they know that can vacation with them, right? Like we vacation with our friends now. And so it's like, we have a good experience. The next trip. Usually we're riding our friends. So it's like, Hey, let's build a bigger trip. Like who else can you bring? You bring your family, your friends, and crafting something with them where now that's just for you, it's just pure profit.

Richard: Yeah. I'm even going through Expert Secrets. And I don't want to take up too much of the time. Sorry. Just even thinking about, who do I want to serve, right? I've been called to serve a certain group and I have that kind of my avatar down. And so it's just serving them. It's not just Disney cruises or Disney vacations. It's, "Hey, have you thought about an all-inclusive Cancun resort?" Something different but still an experience that they can have. And there like you said, I think I like what you said in terms of just keep that first drink, that second drink, that third drink. So maybe just thinking about my email or marketing afterwards, if it's a survey, if it's something and just say, "Hey, how was it? What'd you like about it? Hey, did you know that this is happening? And you can book this next time."

Russell: Oh yeah. I think even pre-building a trip. My wife would get stuff sometimes in email, or she'll see people, our friends on social media who posts these pictures from this trip. And then she's, "Oh, where'd they go?" And she'll call them up and find out. And then we ended up going that same trip. We would do those kinds of things versus like, Hey, here's getting them to socially share trip with other people. And then vice versa is like you coming to them like, Hey, so inside of our community here, we've got this community of, I don't know, whatever you call them are our community of travelers, right? And here's someone just went to Mexico, check out what they get in, check out this trip. And here's four or five people on trips. If you want info on these trips, let me know we can connect you with the same thing. But look at these pictures from everybody and creating a culture like that, where everybody is kind of sharing their trips amongst each other. And then you're the one that's booking them back and forth and it can be really cool.

Richard: I'm actually building the Facebook group right now. And that's where I'm funneling every everyone too. So that I can go live there. I can go talk to people and just tell them, "Hey, these people went on this trip." And then have them come on as a Zoom call and just talk about their trip and what they liked and maybe inspire others to book that same trip.

Russell: Nice. Awesome, man. That's very cool. What a fun business.

Richard: Thank you. Thank you very much. And like I said, thank you so much for all you did for me and just all the value you provide.

Russell: Oh, no worries. I appreciate that.

Yhennifer: Thank you. Rich. Thank you for being here. We're going to bring on JJ. JJ has helped celebrities, artists, big brands and media companies create over 650 million in revenue by building relationships, my favorite thing in the world. What questions do you have for us so JJ?

JJ: Oh my God it's Russell. What's up Russell? All right. So how many questions? What's my limit? What's my limit here.

Yhennifer: You get one.

JJ: I get one. Oh, God. I got to make this good.

Russell: Don't mess it up.

JJ: Really long one or really short one?

Russell: We'll see. Give us the first one first. Just kidding.

JJ: All right. On a serious note. So before you hired the best community manager in the world, and brought her on your team, how did you build those relationships with, I mean, your company blew up, I've been watching you from the beginning and I mean, within just a year or two, you blow up faster than almost anybody in the digital space. How did you keep those connections and build those connections and keep that community strong? I mean, you have the biggest, and I hate to say the four letter word, cult, behind you in the world when it comes to software. How did you do that in your value ladder?

Russell: That's such a great question. And it's funny because Dave would have, you guys know he's now the CEO Clickfunnels has been for the last almost a year now. He does a great job, but it's funny because he'll go off call and coming to me, he's like, man, Russell, you've dug your wells so deep. He's like people just say yes to anything I ask them to do. And I think it was what you understand is that people, depending on when you came into my world, when people come in, it's like you see something, you saw Clickfunnels, you saw this, you saw this. But what people don't know is that I was in this game for man probably, I mean, years now, 10, 12 years before we launched Clickfunnels. And that time was doing that building relationships.

In fact, I joked at the very beginning of this, I've been doing this so long, before Facebook, before MySpace, like Friendster was the hot social network when I was in college, when I started this game. And Friendster did not have an ad platform, Google had an ad platform, but a year into my business, they the Google slap happened and it ended. So I had a decade where we were not able to buy ads. There was nowhere to buy ads. You can buy banner ads kind of, but they didn't work that well. And so all I could do, the only way to get traffic was through relationships. And so I went to every event. I have to go to events and find out who the people that have traffic. And this is for me, it's hard because I'm super introverted and scared to death of people.

And so what I did is I found extroverts who I liked. I said, "Hey, come to this event, I'll pay for you to go with me." And we go to these events. I'm like, okay, I have to meet all these people because they have traffic. These people have email lists and they got a blog and they got these different things. And I spent a decade of doing that, right, of going and talking to people, getting to know them, building relationships using the assets I had to help them to promote them, to either promote their stuff or to help them with different things wherever I could do. And so I spent a lot of time doing that. I think that's what people don't understand. They think that like, oh, he came out of nowhere. It just blew up. It's no, I spent so much time going out and building relationships.

So when Clickfunnels came about, it was nice because it wasn't me just cold calling and Hey, you're who I am yet, but you should pro Clickfunnels. It was like, Hey, this is Russell, and we're friends and this is this project I'm working on. What do you think about? What would you do if you were me and the most amazing minds in the world, sharing with me what they would do, if it was them and giving me ideas and strategies and then they felt like they were part of it when we launched it and rolled it out. And so I think that's a big part of it, obviously you're tied into the relationship side of things, but I don't think people put enough effort into that. They focus on the quick ask, the quick wins. And not like, how do I actually build a real relationship?

I was telling someone because we were last week at the Dean and Tony launch and somebody asked me, how'd you get to know Tony Robbins? How did you know? And I was like, "Well, I spent 12 years of my life serving him in any way I could, before I ever asked him for anything." It was 12 years of like, let me just help him and help him and help him. And since then, man, he's done so much promoting the last three or four years. But it came from a decade of building relationship. And I think you can build a relationship faster than that. Tony's obviously super human and the hardest person on earth to get a hold of. But it comes with leading first, serving and having to help people and getting to know people and stuff like that. So, yeah, it was a lot of digging my well, before we launched ClickFunnels.

JJ: Well thank you for saying that you're on the stage. Because you come into some of these clubhouse rooms and you get these marketers, "Oh, you got to buy ads. You've got to buy ads." I didn't buy ads for 10 years, myself. I mean, you know Brad Hart. I work with Brad Hart now. He didn't buy ads for the first five years of his business and build those relationships first. Thank you for saying that. But honestly you really, I mean, I think leveled up your game by hiring a community manager. She's up on the stage. She's keeps your community engaged. Love Yhennifer. So throwing some love towards Yhennifer. So my second question...

Yhennifer: It has to be quick, Jay.

JJ: It's fast. You can beat me later. What is your favorite Oreo cookie?

Russell: My favorite Oreo cookie. So actually when Collette and I got married, they toilet paper our car, we were driving out and they got Oreos and they stuck them to the side of the car, but the Oreos had pop rocks inside the frosting. And I remember pulling off the car and I was like, "This is disgusting, but I love pop rocks." And so, yeah. And I don't think I've seen pop rock Oreo frosting since then. But if they ever bring it back, I will be the first in line. So that'd probably be my favorite. I don't know.

JJ: Oh.

Yhennifer: That was a good one.

Russell: That was worth it.

Yhennifer: You guys heard it. You guys heard it first. If you find that out there, go ship it to the Clickfunnels headquarters, because boss we'll be happy.

Russell: Oh man.

Yhennifer: That was so good. All right. My girl McCall. McCall is the founder of Charisma Hacking. What question or anything you want to add?

Russell: And hold on. And she's a speaker at this year's Funnel Hacking Live event.

Yhennifer: Are you going to to be there? I'm so excited. First of all, before we get McCall to talk, guys, if you have not bought your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live, go to funnelhackinglive.com, get your tickets and I'll see you guys there. McCall, the mic is yours.

McCall Jones: Oh my gosh. Hi friends. Thanks so much. I was just going to add two things that helped the value ladder really make sense for me in the last year and a half. Since I started this. Russell, you know I study everything that you do. And the first thing that I did was read.comsecrets. Something that was a little bit hard for me at the beginning that, I mean, you teach on all these things, but it was the one product will create the problem that the next one will solve.

And the first thing that I thought was like, "Oh my gosh, I have to create those problems. And I have to create those problems for people to ascend my value ladder." You had said something, I don't remember if it was in a podcast or I just heard you speak on a live somewhere, but you talked about the customer Ascension ladder and kind of the education part of it. And it put it all into perspective for me of the way that all of the sudden, I was able to shift my mind instead of being like, "Hey, you have to create problems from the bottom up and the problems that one will solve, it will open up a new problem to create the next product and all of that." Instead I thought, "Okay, the customer Ascension, where do you eventually want people to go?"

So your Inner Circle and your category Kings and all of that, and then map out the steps that it takes to get there. And then with each program, with each step of the value ladder, it's just like, "Oh, what do you need to educate people on in order for them to want to join the next program, right? So it's an educational process that helped me with the very bottom of it, because I know that I think it was Ryan was talking about summits and creating consistent content and all of that. When I put it into education, all of a sudden the bottom of the value ladder made so much more sense to me because at the beginning, nobody knew what gurus Maggie was, right. It was like what the heck was that?

Russell: You had invented a new term. Yeah.

McCall Jones: Yeah. It was like, this is crazy. And it's hard to do that, right. You know you're in a really scary place in business where you're trying to solve a problem that people don't think that they have. And this education kind of form of this value ladder when you said that it really helped me think like, "Oh, okay. The bottom of my evaluator needs to be educating on my frameworks." So my whole opt-in bottom of the value ladder, what people can do with podcasts or the video content they're creating the summits, all those kinds of things. If they're consistently educating on their frameworks at the bottom, right? They first let people know what they're doing, right? And the problem that they're solving. And then from there, it's like, okay, now that you know what the problem is, and you can accurately say, oh, I do have that problem. Wow. Then you can move them up into paid products, and you can continue to educate them until they get to the highest level.

But that was the thing that helped me the most, because at first with the problems, it was just hard for my brain to kind of wrap around it. And then it was like, oh, if you can accurately help somebody get through one specific step and then educate them on what they need to know in order to join the next program, then they will continue to ascend your value ladder because they will have a problem that's solved and they will have the education they need in order to address that they have a new problem. So that was something that helped me. Yeah. Guys, come to Funnel Hacking Live. You have to be there.

Russell: Yeah. The thing I would add to that too, is like, I think a lot of times people are so stressed. I got to figure all these pieces and all the things. And one thing that I noticed when I first started doing this and I've noticed other people's that a lot of times you don't know what the next thing is until you start doing your thing, right? You start selling your product. For me, it was funnels, funnels, funnels. I wrote the book, we created a software and all sorts of stuff, that was it, right? That was the plan. And then as people started signing up and they buy the book and buy the funnels, then it was the next question kept coming and coming, it wasn't me making this up.

It was like, oh, here's the question that everybody keeps asking like, okay, how do I solve that problem? How do I solve that problem? So the customers will bring you the problem. You don't have to invent them. You just do your thing in the best of your ability. And then listen. And if you listen, then the next thing will come to you and you know exactly what to do so.

McCall Jones: Another really interesting, I'm so sorry. I just will be really fast. But at the beginning, I've built these frameworks for 20 years, but I didn't know what my people needed. And if you try to force what you know on people, instead of what they need, then your products won't sell, right. But instead it was exactly what you said, as far as finding your voice, the same thing was, I think it was Dave who just popped into this room, Hi Dave? It's about finding your frameworks, right?

So creating your content and making sure that you're publishing on a consistent basis. It's creating these frameworks and refining them and seeing what sticks for people. And then it's not just like, well, I know this, that's what I should create a product around. It's like, no, no, no. People will listen. And they will. It's exactly what you said. They will tell you that market research is so invaluable. And then in that next program, if you're building it from the ground up, then you educate them. You listen to their problems and you let them ask questions and then they will reveal what that next product needs to be. Super interesting.

Russell: Very cool. Well, thanks for call. Excited to see you again soon at funnel hacking live with all of you guys here who are listening in as well. I hope it's going to be amazing.

Yhennifer: Awesome guys. Make sure that you click on that little greenhouse, make sure that you're following the Marketing Secrets Live Club. There's going to be many more. Right, Russell?

Russell: Yeah, this was actually really fun. I hope... Did you enjoy Yhennifer? That was fun.

Yhennifer: It was amazing obviously, listening to you. The value that you provide and also being able to speak to our funnel hackers here that we're excited to chat with you.

Russell: Yeah. So I think the game plan we're going to try and keep news a few times. If it sticks, then we'll keep doing it. But I actually really enjoyed not just talking about topic and pushing the podcast. That was nice to get feedback or questions or like getting McCall, like doubling down. Like it's something I learned that helped me to make sense. And that was way more valuable to have that a as actual application of the concept, not just the concept. So I loved it. It was fun. So we'll let you guys know kind of moving forward when we'll keep doing these. But that was awesome. So thank you so much for helping facilitate it and make it all happen. Thank you guys all for listening. And will let you guys know when the next party is going to start. And I think, hold on, I got an outro. Should I do an outro?

Yhennifer: Wait, before you put that outro, like do one of those money signs, money noises, things.

Russell: Let's see.

Yhennifer: Come on you got the buttons over there.

Russell: There's a button there… We got… We're so funny.

Yhennifer: That is amazing. All right. So we're going to close out with this out show. Thank you so much guys, for being here. See you guys in the next one.

Russell: All right. Thanks everybody.

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]]> 2827 no LIVE: The Real Secret Behind The Value Ladder https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/live-the-real-secret-behind-the-value-ladder Register for the next LIVE episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, and we are trying out something really fun and new and exciting for the Marketing Secrets podcast and so wanted to tell you about it. So I did an episode that was actually live, we called it the Marketing Secrets Live Show and we did it on Clubhouse. And instead of me just talking for 15, 20 minutes, like a typical podcast, I did talk for 15, 20 minutes and at the end of it, I opened it for Q&A, we spent about 40 minutes on doing Q&A and it was a really cool experience for so many reasons. One was a chance to answer questions for a bunch of you guys. Number two is just it was fun doing it live and the energy was cool. So I think we're going to keep on doing it and want to invite you if you want to come on any of our live shows. All you do is go to clubhousewithrussell.com. It's clubhousewithrussell.com. It redirects you to the Marketing Secrets Live clubhouse room and you can join that room and then you'll be notified when we go live. I'll probably go live once a week or so and again, I'll be spending 15, 20 minutes talking and then after that, we'll go into Q&A and it'll be fun. So the next episode's going to be special. The first one is going to be my 15 to 20 minutes of me talking about the concept I want to talk about that day and the next step episode I'll share with you is the Q&A, and I hope you enjoy both sides of it and hopefully gets you pumped to come to the next Marketing Secrets Live show. Again, it'll be on Clubhouse, so make sure you get the Clubhouse app. But again, if you go to clubhousewithrussell.com, you can register. And with that said, I'm going to pick up at the very beginning of the Live Clubhouse and we'll go from there. We're here, everybody. What's up. This is our, technically it's the second time I've gone live on the platform. First time was a huge train wreck, we'll talk about that in a minute, but this is round two and I'm here. And Yhennifer, how are you feeling today? Yhennifer: I am feeling amazing, so excited to be here. I know that we were on for the funnel hacking live room and it was bananas. So I know that this one is also going to be amazing. Don't forget to make me a moderator real quick. Russell: You're officially now a moderator. Yhennifer: Awesome. There we go. I got the badge. I made it in the world. Russell: Amazing. I'm learning how to use it all. Okay. Can you hear me well? This is my first time using the setup and everything, I want to make sure you can hear me. Yhennifer: Yes, we can hear you perfectly fine. Welcome everybody. Russell: Welcome. Welcome. All right. Well, let me, while waiting for a few more people to jump on here for a second, I'll tell you guys what the game plan is, what we're trying to do here and then we'll dive into it. So we're going to be live for about an hour for about an hour and this is my second time officially using Clubhouse. I've been in Clubhouse a lot as a guest and hanging out, but the second time didn't get a room. First time I tried to do a room, did not know what I was doing, jumped in there. I brought everybody up to become speakers and it was chaos and anyway, it was kind of crazy. So I stepped back from it and was like, okay, I want to do this again but I want to do it this time a little more strategically. And so the game plan for what we're going to do is I'm going to basically be doing an episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. So I'm going to talk for probably 15 minutes or so on a topic and then when that's done, Yhennifer is going to be my amazing, co-host, help me with this whole process, making sure I don't mess it up. Then we're going to bring you guys up, whoever wants to come up and ask questions or give comments or share things to deepen what we're talking about with everybody else. And that's the plan, so I think it should be fun. Anything I'm forgetting? Yhennifer: Yes. Make sure that you pin some people into this room. You have that little plus sign at the bottom guys, as you are hopping on here. Invite some friends that will be interested in what we're going to be talking about today, which is the secret behind the value ladder. Russell: It's so fun. All right. And I've also got this really cool, I feel professional, I've got a little board here. I click buttons, and if I tell you guys a joke, check this out. Did you hear that? Yhennifer: That is amazing. Russell: So I can do that. If we talk about money, I can be like this. And I also got the theme song for the Marketing Secrets podcast loaded up here. So this is the live version of the Marketing Secrets podcast, which I'm pumped for, hopefully you guys are pumped for as well. Like I said, I got about 15 minutes of stuff I'm going to talk about and then we'll open up for Q&A's. And so that is the game plan. So again, if you want to invite anybody you know, please invite them and then what I'm going to do is I'm going to queue the theme song right now and then we'll play it and we'll come back at 15 minutes to talk and then we'll open the blinds for Q&A. Does that sound good? Yhennifer: Awesome. Let's get the party started guys. Russell: All right, with that said, here is the theme song. All right, everybody. Welcome to our first ever official Marketing Secrets live show. I'm so excited to be here with you guys. We are doing this live on Clubhouse, which is kind of cool. This is my first time really producing something like this, and I'm excited. So if anyone who is a listener to my podcast, you know that usually I spend about 15, 20 minutes talking about a topic and it ends there. I want to use this platform as a way for me to be able to talk about what I'm thinking about for next 15, 20 minutes and then, when it's finished, jump on with you guys and do Q and A and answer questions. Or if you guys want to share ideas or thoughts, whatever it is. It should be fun, so that's the game plan. The thing I want to talk about today... We titled this one The Real Secret Behind The Value Ladder. I did it for a couple of reasons. Number one is the value ladder is probably one of the least understood principles inside of this marketing game. And it's funny, because I think when you explain it, it's really simple, and be like, "Oh, I get it. I get it." But when I look at people's businesses, when they come in for consulting or they hire me for coaching or whatever it is, I look at it and some people have what we call a value maze, where there's 8 million different ways that a potential customer could go and it's confusing. And I'm like, "Where do you take a customer?" And they have all sorts of different things, right? I'm like, "Well, value maze is not a value ladder." So that's one thing. Where number two is like, "Oh, they have a product." They've got one thing and they're missing some of these, these key components. And so I want to share with you guys really quickly what the value ladder is, but then there's a big thing that most people are missing. And it is key. It's the key to ascend somebody from one spot to the next in your value ladder. It's the key to actually serve people with the highest level of value. It's the key to really have success and help your customers have success. And so, that's the stuff I want to talk about today. I'm going to geek out on this at a deeper level than I typically do because I'm hanging out with a bunch of people who are on Clubhouse. That means you guys are as nerdy as me if you're here with five minutes worth of warning that we're going live for marketing seminar, right? And so that's kind of the game plan. So, and then after afterwards, like I said, we'll open for Q and A and do some questions. If you guys have any feedback or if you want to share your value ladders and things like that and how you transition people from step to step, that's game plan. Okay. So, a couple of things. The value ladder right now is more important than anything I could talk to you about for a lot of reasons. One of the biggest ones is obviously with all of the changes happening in advertising between Apple and Facebook and their feud. I'm assuming that most of you guys have noticed that your cost per acquisition in most of your marketing campaigns, if you're buying ads on Facebook, have probably gone up. For a lot of you guys, it's gone up substantially, am I right? Okay. If you've read the DotCom secrets book, one of the quotes that I talk about a lot from my mentor, Dan Kennedy, he said that whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins. Okay? This is something that like... I don't have tattoos, but if I had a tattoo, it would be tattooed on my forearm so I would never forget this. This is how important it is, right? Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins. I remember when I first got started in this game, I heard him say that and it didn't make any sense to me, okay? And I think a lot of you guys who have been in the market right now, playing this game for a couple of years, it's been easy if I'm completely honest. Facebook ads have made things easy and a lot of people made a lot of money without having to be really good entrepreneurs and really good marketers and really understanding things because it was easy. It was easy. If any of you guys had a chance to read my newest book, my third book, Traffic Secrets, the intro of Traffic Secrets, that the title was, there's a storm coming. Some of you guys probably read that. It was right when Coronavirus hit is when the book launched. And I said, "There's a storm coming." It's been so simple for so many years and I've been doing this now... This is my 19th year in this business, so I was playing this game before Facebook, before MySpace... Actually, Friendster was the hot social network at the time when I started this game. And so I've had a chance to see the ups and the downs and watch what happens to advertising platforms and networks over two decades now. I wanted to warn everybody, because so many people who have got in this game in the last few years where it was easy, where it's we focus on Facebook, and I'm like, "You guys have to understand there's a storm coming. We have to look at things differently. And if you're not, you're going to be in trouble." I think the real first big wave of that has been hitting right now with the battle between Apple and Facebook and all the things. I've seen a lot of people who messaged me, who are freaking out, who'd be like, "Our ad costs are going up. What do we do? What do we do?" The reality is what you should do is you should be celebrating, okay? If you're an actual marketer, if you're a funnel hacker, if you're of our people, right? You've been hearing me preach this now for a decade, right? Whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins, right? If you understand that, the fact that all the CPAs, the cost per acquisition, these costs are going up and it's getting more and more expensive should not scare you to death. It should make you excited because all it really means is that more and more people are going to fall out of the game. Okay? Less competition, less people, less people fighting over ad dollars, all those kind of things. It's going to drop, okay, because the real marketers are going to keep playing the game and the rest of them are going to disappear. Like I said, I've been doing this now two decades. I've seen this. I've seen people who are making millions of dollars a month one day. And then, because of an algorithm shift, they're now out of business and I've never seen them come back, which blows my mind to this day, is because they didn't understand these core principles. And so, the core principle I want to drill into your guys' mind today is the concept of a value ladder, and then I'm going to show you guys the actual secret behind the value ladder. That's the key that makes this whole thing work, okay? So the basics of the value ladders... If anyone who has been around me for more than five minutes, you've heard me talk about this before, so I'm not going to spend too much time on the actual value ladder, because that part's the most simple, but a value ladder is like... Somebody comes into your world, right? And you give them some value. So my goal is... Obviously, there's a lot of free things I do online, right? My free podcast. I'm doing this live right now, right? Some of you guys are jumping into this room and this is the bottom of my value ladder, right? It didn't cost you any money, okay, but I'm providing value. Hopefully if I do a good job of it, you're going to be like, "Man, that Russell guy? He talks kind of fast, but I got some value that was really quick. What else does he have?" Right? And you naturally want more. That's the cool thing about human beings. If we receive value of something, we naturally want more. So if you see cool video or podcast, or you're here on Clubhouse, or something, you get some value, you're going to start looking around. You're like, "Hey, Russell talked about that book. What was that book he said? Oh, DotCom Secrets, or Traffic Secrets." Whatever one grabs your attention, right? And you're going to go online and go to DotComSecrets.com. You go over there, and you're like, "There's the book. $9.95 shipping and handling." You're like, "Whoa, in the Clubhouse room, he spent an hour with us and that was amazing. Can you imagine what I would get if I actually read his book." Right? You put your credit card in. You buy the book. Then you get the book and you start reading it, right? Now you're moving up my value ladder. You start reading the book and you're like, "Oh my gosh, this funnel thing is really, really cool. In this book, he talks about the 10 core funnels and how they work and, all of a sudden, I see how it could work in my business and I can see how it works in other people's..." And you start freaking out. You're like, "This is so amazing." Right? And you got value. You're like, "I paid 10 bucks and look at the value I got from this thing. This is insane, right?" And then what happens? You naturally want more. You start looking. "What's the next thing? What else does Russell have?" Start looking around, and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, Russell is doing this 2 Comma Club Live virtual event coming up in two weeks. I want to be part of that. What is that?" Okay. So you go, you sign up for the event, and I try to provide value first. So the way that 2 Comma Club Live works is you put in your credit card and you go through the entire three-day experience for free. Then, afterwards, you decide if it's worth it, right? So there's no me trying to scam anybody out of money. It's like, look, come show up. I'm going to serve you like crazy, and at the end of it decide if it was worth it. If it is, then you can pay for. If not, then don't. Right? So they come through, do 2 Comma Club Live Event, and they go through this experience for three days and they're learning, they're growing, and they're getting all this stuff. They're like, "This is amazing. I'm getting so much value from this. What else does he have?" Right? And then you look at Funnel Hacking Live, our big live event, or maybe it's our 2 Comma Club Coaching. Or if you're inside of 2 Comma Club Coaching, after you've gone through that process, you're like, "What's next? I want the next thing." So, after you've gone through our 2 Comma Club Coaching program, it's a $25,000 program, our next tier up is my inner circle, right? And then after my inner circle, there's new program coming out called Category Kings. And so this is my value ladder, right? It all starts with me coming out there and putting out as much value as possible and, if you like it, you're going to naturally want more. Okay? So that's kind of the concept of value ladder. Again, I don't want to go too much deeper than that because you can read about in the DotCom Secrets book, and I've talked about a lot of other places. That's the core concept I wanted to put out there. Right? And so, the reason why these ads are changing, right? Ad costs are going up and everyone's freaking out. That's why this is so important because what will typically happen is most business owners... And I see this so much, even inside our funnel hacker community, unfortunately, is they create a product and have this product and it works really well and they start selling that product. Right now, because the game has been easy for the last four or five years, they spend $50 in ads. They make a $100. They're like, "Oh, this game works." Right? But now with all these different changes, and the algorithm shifting, and the fight between Apple and Google and Facebook and things, now these costs are going up. Well, now you're spending a $100 to make $100. And then, it's eventually going to be $200 to make a $100, right? And all of the amateurs are starting to fall away, okay? I remember my very first marketing seminar I ever went to, I heard Mike Lemon said... He said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." Said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And I didn't know what that meant until I started getting into business and I started saying, "Oh my gosh, my first two or three tiers on my value ladder, all that money is going back into just paying for customers. It's not until tier three, four, five, I start actually making money." And the deeper you can go into your value ladder without making any money, the more successful you're going to be, right? Because whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins, according to Dan Kennedy, who is my mentor, and I trust everything my mentors say to me, so it's very, very true. Okay. So I want to kind of start with that. Now, the next thing I want to talk is... Again, most of you guys at this point have some kind of value ladder, but the thing, and this is where I talked about the real secret behind the value ladder, the thing I really want to share with you guys today, and this is the nugget that hopefully you get and you're like, "Oh my gosh, I got value." And then we'll open up to take some Q and A's and stuff. So the big secret is each tier of the value ladder, the thing that you sell at that tier has got two goals. Number one is to provide value, right? It's to scratch the itch they have, right? So you give them this thing that's like, "Oh my gosh, I got value. That was amazing. I scratched my itch." But usually when you solve one problem for somebody, it opens up a new problem. Right? So, for example, when I give you a book on how to grow your company funnels, you like, "I read this book. I got value." And then, all the sudden, you're like, "Oh my gosh, I need a funnel." And then, hey, lo and behold, guess what I sell? I have this funnel software that I sell called ClickFunnels. You should use it, right? And so it opens up the next thing. Each tier on the value ladder should provide value, help somebody at that tier, and then, and then by giving them that value, it should open up the next step, right? Because after you have a funnel, what do you need? Well, for me, you buy my first book. It's like, "Here's how to build a funnel." And then second book like, "Hey, here's how to do the messaging for your funnel." Third book's how to get traffic to your funnel. It moves somebody up and down. So the first time I got this... Some of you guys know Chet Holmes. Chet Holmes passed away a few years ago. He wrote The Ultimate Sales Machine, which is still, to this day, one of my top 10 favorite business books. Chet actually became a friend of mine. I spent a lot of time with him in business and traveling, and just had a lot of respect for him. As I was working with him, he wanted us to help him with one part of their business. And so, because that, he opened up his books and showed me his entire business model, which was really, really cool. So he showed me this entire business model, and I want to walk you guys through how it works. Because when he showed this to me, this is one of the first time I got it. That each step of my value ladder is selling the next thing. So the way Chet's business model works is he runs radio ads, right? So he's running radio ads. In the radio ad, it would say, basically, "Call this number to get nine free reports," or something like that. So they'd run the radio ads. It would call the number. Someone would answer the phone, say, "Hey, what email address do you want to email your nine free reports to?" You give them an email address, cool. And said, "Hey, why have you on the line, Chet normally..." He used to do these seminars that were three hours long. He would fly around the country and people would pay, I can't remember, $800 to come to these three hour long seminars to help them to grow their company. And because you're at home, we're doing virtual seminars, and how would you like to come to these virtual seminars? And he said, the seminar for you guys, for virtual one, was $300, but the cool thing is you don't have to pay for it up front. You can come to the seminar, attend the entire thing, then after it's over, if you liked it, then you pay the $300. Right? And so that's how Chet's value ladder began. Okay? And so that's kind of where I got to dive in. So I started going on these seminars. I wanted to understand what he was doing. And I'd watch this three hour long web seminar that they would run, and they would teach people and coach them show them all this amazing stuff. It was awesome. The three-hour training was worth the $300 bucks. And so, when the three hour training was done, at the end of it, he said, "Hey, really quick, I want to find out from all you guys. The last three hours, was it worth it? If it was, tell me, and if so, we'll bill you the agreed upon $297, like we agreed upon. But if not, let me know and we won't bill your credit card. Totally cool. No harm, no foul." And he'd go person by person. These web classes would have like 10 people on a time. So he'd be like, "Joe, how was it for you? Was it good?" And then Joe would be like, "Yeah, it was awesome." Then he'd be like, "Cool. Sam, Julie, Mike..." And he'd go through everyone and get everybody to say yes, and they'd bill their credit cards. And he said, "Okay, now that the seminar is over. It's officially over. Got all the value. Really quick. The biggest question people ask us after they go through this experience is, I want more. What's the next step? What's the next tier?" And he said, "Do you care if I spend a couple minutes talking about our six week long mentoring program where we can take these principles and help you instill them inside your business?" And of course, everyone's like, "Oh, sure, definitely." And he walked and transitioned to the six week program and he explained it all. And then, from there, he would try to close every single person on the call on the six week program. Right? And so then that was the next step in the theater. And then you went through six week program. At the end of the six week program, they give them two bonus calls, right? And the two bonus calls are with the coach, trying to figure where they're at and where they're trying to get. And then, from there, the coach upsold them to the next program, to the higher ticket program. And so, each tier in the value ladder provided value, provided the thing they promised. And the end of it, there was a mechanism, there was a tool, there was a process in place that then took that person and ascended them to the next tier inside the value ladder. Okay? That was the key. And as I started watching, I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." And what Chet did in his business, it was really fascinating. This is kind of off topic, but just an idea to put in your guys' head. Every single person in Chet's organization, his entire company, everybody was paid a percentage of the sale. So what would happen is that the person buying the radio ads, he or she would get a percentage of the money that came from the webinar one, and then from the six week program, and all the way through the entire line, so they all were incentivized. The person in sales on the webinar got incentivized on everything that happened after that person touched them, and so on and so forth. The way he structured it... I remember him sitting there. He said, "Russell, this is the secret to business. Don't have tons of overhead. It'll drown you." He said, "You got to set up your structure so that everybody's paid based on a percentage of commission." He's like, "That way, when you have big months, everyone gets big checks and small months, everyone get small checks, but we all do it together. That way you're not stuck with the overhead and things." Unfortunately, I didn't use that in ClickFunnels. I wish I would have. If I get all 400 employees that work here to... I'm just joking, but it was really just a cool thing. So this was the secret to value ladder that Chet taught me, is that each tier in the value ladder, part of the product, part of the thing that they're buying, actually ascends them to the next tier. Okay? There's a good way and a bad way to do this, too. I've seen this in the past, when I've bought somebody's book, where I'm like, I see the book, the ad's awesome. I buy the book and I read it, and the entire book is a sales letter for their next thing. I hate that. That drives me crazy. But if you look at my process, I want to blow people's minds. So if you go through it and you read the DotCom Secrets book, you'll notice that the entire book, like whatever 297 pages, is just pure strategy, tactics, like nothing. And at the end of it, there's a little chapter on, "Hey, if you need a tool to help this, it's called ClickFunnels." And we push them to ClickFunnels, right? And then there's a sequence after they buy the book. There's a whole marketing sequence that gets somebody from there to the next tier in our value ladder. Right? Then if someone comes to 2 Comma Club Live event, right? It's a virtual event. It's three days long. They go through the process. And inside of that event, that is the mechanism where we sell our 2 Comma Club X Coaching program, right? And so they go to that and they join 2 Comma Club X, okay? And in the past, I had an inner circle and my Category Kings, which has been closed for about two years now, but I'm going to sprinkle some hints here. I'm actually reopening those here this year, which is exciting. And so what's cool about it is then people inside 2 Comma Club X, they can then naturally ascend up the next year. And then people inside of the inner circle then can naturally ascend up our Category Kings. And so there's a process in place, but everything is designed and structured around knowing that I've got to give them the value I promise them, but then, at the end of it, there's some mechanism that moves them to the next tier, that moves them up the value ladder. Okay? That's the power. That's the real secret behind the values. Not just having a value ladder of, oh, there's a product here, product here, product here. It's structuring your product so that the product does the selling to move somebody to the next tier. Okay? If you guys come to Funnel Hacking Live, you will notice something. Most of our speakers, not all of them, but most of them are people who are in my inner circle. They are in our 2 Comma Club X Coaching program, things like that. And so, as we introduce them, we're like, "Hey, here's 2 Comma Club X Coaching member, so-and-so." And so they see this and people see over and over and over again, that the people who are on stage are the people in the next program higher, and it gives people incentive to want to go and ascend up and move up the value ladder. Does that make sense? So these are just some of the things, but that's the real secret in value ladder is structuring your products in a way that, number one, gives so much value that they want to ascend up, and number two, there should be mechanisms built inside of each tier that actually physically move them to the next tier. Okay? You get Chet Holmes on his free web class at the beginning. At the end of it, pushed them into six week program. In the six week program, he had two bonuses coaching calls. Those coaching calls were then there to send them to the next tier and so on and so forth. And so, that's kind of the process of what a value ladder is. But, again, this is the piece I wanted you guys to get. The real secret is understanding that. Creating tons of value and building the mechanism to actually get somebody to ascend to the next tier. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 24 May 2021 08:00:00 -0000 LIVE: The Real Secret Behind The Value Ladder full 416 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Register for the next LIVE episode at  Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, and we are trying out something really fun and new and... Register for the next LIVE episode at ClubHouseWithRussell.com Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, and we are trying out something really fun and new and exciting for the Marketing Secrets podcast and so wanted to tell you about it. So I did an episode that was actually live, we called it the Marketing Secrets Live Show and we did it on Clubhouse. And instead of me just talking for 15, 20 minutes, like a typical podcast, I did talk for 15, 20 minutes and at the end of it, I opened it for Q&A, we spent about 40 minutes on doing Q&A and it was a really cool experience for so many reasons. One was a chance to answer questions for a bunch of you guys. Number two is just it was fun doing it live and the energy was cool. So I think we're going to keep on doing it and want to invite you if you want to come on any of our live shows. All you do is go to clubhousewithrussell.com. It's clubhousewithrussell.com. It redirects you to the Marketing Secrets Live clubhouse room and you can join that room and then you'll be notified when we go live. I'll probably go live once a week or so and again, I'll be spending 15, 20 minutes talking and then after that, we'll go into Q&A and it'll be fun. So the next episode's going to be special. The first one is going to be my 15 to 20 minutes of me talking about the concept I want to talk about that day and the next step episode I'll share with you is the Q&A, and I hope you enjoy both sides of it and hopefully gets you pumped to come to the next Marketing Secrets Live show. Again, it'll be on Clubhouse, so make sure you get the Clubhouse app. But again, if you go to clubhousewithrussell.com, you can register. And with that said, I'm going to pick up at the very beginning of the Live Clubhouse and we'll go from there. We're here, everybody. What's up. This is our, technically it's the second time I've gone live on the platform. First time was a huge train wreck, we'll talk about that in a minute, but this is round two and I'm here. And Yhennifer, how are you feeling today? Yhennifer: I am feeling amazing, so excited to be here. I know that we were on for the funnel hacking live room and it was bananas. So I know that this one is also going to be amazing. Don't forget to make me a moderator real quick. Russell: You're officially now a moderator. Yhennifer: Awesome. There we go. I got the badge. I made it in the world. Russell: Amazing. I'm learning how to use it all. Okay. Can you hear me well? This is my first time using the setup and everything, I want to make sure you can hear me. Yhennifer: Yes, we can hear you perfectly fine. Welcome everybody. Russell: Welcome. Welcome. All right. Well, let me, while waiting for a few more people to jump on here for a second, I'll tell you guys what the game plan is, what we're trying to do here and then we'll dive into it. So we're going to be live for about an hour for about an hour and this is my second time officially using Clubhouse. I've been in Clubhouse a lot as a guest and hanging out, but the second time didn't get a room. First time I tried to do a room, did not know what I was doing, jumped in there. I brought everybody up to become speakers and it was chaos and anyway, it was kind of crazy. So I stepped back from it and was like, okay, I want to do this again but I want to do it this time a little more strategically. And so the game plan for what we're going to do is I'm going to basically be doing an episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. So I'm going to talk for probably 15 minutes or so on a topic and then when that's done, Yhennifer is going to be my amazing, co-host, help me with this whole process, making sure I don't mess it up. Then we're going to bring you guys up, whoever wants to come up and ask questions or give comments or share things to deepen what we're talking about with everybody else. And that's the plan, so I think it should be fun. Anything I'm forgetting? Yhennifer: Yes. Make sure that you pin some people into this room. You have that little plus sign at the bottom guys, as you are hopping on here. Invite some friends that will be interested in what we're going to be talking about today, which is the secret behind the value ladder. Russell: It's so fun. All right. And I've also got this really cool, I feel professional, I've got a little board here. I click buttons, and if I tell you guys a joke, check this out. Did you hear that? Yhennifer: That is amazing. Russell: So I can do that. If we talk about money, I can be like this. And I also got the theme song for the Marketing Secrets podcast loaded up here. So this is the live version of the Marketing Secrets podcast, which I'm pumped for, hopefully you guys are pumped for as well. Like I said, I got about 15 minutes of stuff I'm going to talk about and then we'll open up for Q&A's. And so that is the game plan. So again, if you want to invite anybody you know, please invite them and then what I'm going to do is I'm going to queue the theme song right now and then we'll play it and we'll come back at 15 minutes to talk and then we'll open the blinds for Q&A. Does that sound good? Yhennifer: Awesome. Let's get the party started guys. Russell: All right, with that said, here is the theme song. All right, everybody. Welcome to our first ever official Marketing Secrets live show. I'm so excited to be here with you guys. We are doing this live on Clubhouse, which is kind of cool. This is my first time really producing something like this, and I'm excited. So if anyone who is a listener to my podcast, you know that usually I spend about 15, 20 minutes talking about a topic and it ends there. I want to use this platform as a way for me to be able to talk about what I'm thinking about for next 15, 20 minutes and then, when it's finished, jump on with you guys and do Q and A and answer questions. Or if you guys want to share ideas or thoughts, whatever it is. It should be fun, so that's the game plan. The thing I want to talk about today... We titled this one The Real Secret Behind The Value Ladder. I did it for a couple of reasons. Number one is the value ladder is probably one of the least understood principles inside of this marketing game. And it's funny, because I think when you explain it, it's really simple, and be like, "Oh, I get it. I get it." But when I look at people's businesses, when they come in for consulting or they hire me for coaching or whatever it is, I look at it and some people have what we call a value maze, where there's 8 million different ways that a potential customer could go and it's confusing. And I'm like, "Where do you take a customer?" And they have all sorts of different things, right? I'm like, "Well, value maze is not a value ladder." So that's one thing. Where number two is like, "Oh, they have a product." They've got one thing and they're missing some of these, these key components. And so I want to share with you guys really quickly what the value ladder is, but then there's a big thing that most people are missing. And it is key. It's the key to ascend somebody from one spot to the next in your value ladder. It's the key to actually serve people with the highest level of value. It's the key to really have success and help your customers have success. And so, that's the stuff I want to talk about today. I'm going to geek out on this at a deeper level than I typically do because I'm hanging out with a bunch of people who are on Clubhouse. That means you guys are as nerdy as me if you're here with five minutes worth of warning that we're going live for marketing seminar, right? And so that's kind of the game plan. So, and then after afterwards, like I said, we'll open for Q and A and do some questions. If you guys have any feedback or if you want to share your value ladders and things like that and how you transition people from step to step, that's game plan. Okay. So, a couple of things. The value ladder right now is more important than anything I could talk to you about for a lot of reasons. One of the biggest ones is obviously with all of the changes happening in advertising between Apple and Facebook and their feud. I'm assuming that most of you guys have noticed that your cost per acquisition in most of your marketing campaigns, if you're buying ads on Facebook, have probably gone up. For a lot of you guys, it's gone up substantially, am I right? Okay. If you've read the DotCom secrets book, one of the quotes that I talk about a lot from my mentor, Dan Kennedy, he said that whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins. Okay? This is something that like... I don't have tattoos, but if I had a tattoo, it would be tattooed on my forearm so I would never forget this. This is how important it is, right? Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins. I remember when I first got started in this game, I heard him say that and it didn't make any sense to me, okay? And I think a lot of you guys who have been in the market right now, playing this game for a couple of years, it's been easy if I'm completely honest. Facebook ads have made things easy and a lot of people made a lot of money without having to be really good entrepreneurs and really good marketers and really understanding things because it was easy. It was easy. If any of you guys had a chance to read my newest book, my third book, Traffic Secrets, the intro of Traffic Secrets, that the title was, there's a storm coming. Some of you guys probably read that. It was right when Coronavirus hit is when the book launched. And I said, "There's a storm coming." It's been so simple for so many years and I've been doing this now... This is my 19th year in this business, so I was playing this game before Facebook, before MySpace... Actually, Friendster was the hot social network at the time when I started this game. And so I've had a chance to see the ups and the downs and watch what happens to advertising platforms and networks over two decades now. I wanted to warn everybody, because so many people who have got in this game in the last few years where it was easy, where it's we focus on Facebook, and I'm like, "You guys have to understand there's a storm coming. We have to look at things differently. And if you're not, you're going to be in trouble." I think the real first big wave of that has been hitting right now with the battle between Apple and Facebook and all the things. I've seen a lot of people who messaged me, who are freaking out, who'd be like, "Our ad costs are going up. What do we do? What do we do?" The reality is what you should do is you should be celebrating, okay? If you're an actual marketer, if you're a funnel hacker, if you're of our people, right? You've been hearing me preach this now for a decade, right? Whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins, right? If you understand that, the fact that all the CPAs, the cost per acquisition, these costs are going up and it's getting more and more expensive should not scare you to death. It should make you excited because all it really means is that more and more people are going to fall out of the game. Okay? Less competition, less people, less people fighting over ad dollars, all those kind of things. It's going to drop, okay, because the real marketers are going to keep playing the game and the rest of them are going to disappear. Like I said, I've been doing this now two decades. I've seen this. I've seen people who are making millions of dollars a month one day. And then, because of an algorithm shift, they're now out of business and I've never seen them come back, which blows my mind to this day, is because they didn't understand these core principles. And so, the core principle I want to drill into your guys' mind today is the concept of a value ladder, and then I'm going to show you guys the actual secret behind the value ladder. That's the key that makes this whole thing work, okay? So the basics of the value ladders... If anyone who has been around me for more than five minutes, you've heard me talk about this before, so I'm not going to spend too much time on the actual value ladder, because that part's the most simple, but a value ladder is like... Somebody comes into your world, right? And you give them some value. So my goal is... Obviously, there's a lot of free things I do online, right? My free podcast. I'm doing this live right now, right? Some of you guys are jumping into this room and this is the bottom of my value ladder, right? It didn't cost you any money, okay, but I'm providing value. Hopefully if I do a good job of it, you're going to be like, "Man, that Russell guy? He talks kind of fast, but I got some value that was really quick. What else does he have?" Right? And you naturally want more. That's the cool thing about human beings. If we receive value of something, we naturally want more. So if you see cool video or podcast, or you're here on Clubhouse, or something, you get some value, you're going to start looking around. You're like, "Hey, Russell talked about that book. What was that book he said? Oh, DotCom Secrets, or Traffic Secrets." Whatever one grabs your attention, right? And you're going to go online and go to DotComSecrets.com. You go over there, and you're like, "There's the book. $9.95 shipping and handling." You're like, "Whoa, in the Clubhouse room, he spent an hour with us and that was amazing. Can you imagine what I would get if I actually read his book." Right? You put your credit card in. You buy the book. Then you get the book and you start reading it, right? Now you're moving up my value ladder. You start reading the book and you're like, "Oh my gosh, this funnel thing is really, really cool. In this book, he talks about the 10 core funnels and how they work and, all of a sudden, I see how it could work in my business and I can see how it works in other people's..." And you start freaking out. You're like, "This is so amazing." Right? And you got value. You're like, "I paid 10 bucks and look at the value I got from this thing. This is insane, right?" And then what happens? You naturally want more. You start looking. "What's the next thing? What else does Russell have?" Start looking around, and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, Russell is doing this 2 Comma Club Live virtual event coming up in two weeks. I want to be part of that. What is that?" Okay. So you go, you sign up for the event, and I try to provide value first. So the way that 2 Comma Club Live works is you put in your credit card and you go through the entire three-day experience for free. Then, afterwards, you decide if it's worth it, right? So there's no me trying to scam anybody out of money. It's like, look, come show up. I'm going to serve you like crazy, and at the end of it decide if it was worth it. If it is, then you can pay for. If not, then don't. Right? So they come through, do 2 Comma Club Live Event, and they go through this experience for three days and they're learning, they're growing, and they're getting all this stuff. They're like, "This is amazing. I'm getting so much value from this. What else does he have?" Right? And then you look at Funnel Hacking Live, our big live event, or maybe it's our 2 Comma Club Coaching. Or if you're inside of 2 Comma Club Coaching, after you've gone through that process, you're like, "What's next? I want the next thing." So, after you've gone through our 2 Comma Club Coaching program, it's a $25,000 program, our next tier up is my inner circle, right? And then after my inner circle, there's new program coming out called Category Kings. And so this is my value ladder, right? It all starts with me coming out there and putting out as much value as possible and, if you like it, you're going to naturally want more. Okay? So that's kind of the concept of value ladder. Again, I don't want to go too much deeper than that because you can read about in the DotCom Secrets book, and I've talked about a lot of other places. That's the core concept I wanted to put out there. Right? And so, the reason why these ads are changing, right? Ad costs are going up and everyone's freaking out. That's why this is so important because what will typically happen is most business owners... And I see this so much, even inside our funnel hacker community, unfortunately, is they create a product and have this product and it works really well and they start selling that product. Right now, because the game has been easy for the last four or five years, they spend $50 in ads. They make a $100. They're like, "Oh, this game works." Right? But now with all these different changes, and the algorithm shifting, and the fight between Apple and Google and Facebook and things, now these costs are going up. Well, now you're spending a $100 to make $100. And then, it's eventually going to be $200 to make a $100, right? And all of the amateurs are starting to fall away, okay? I remember my very first marketing seminar I ever went to, I heard Mike Lemon said... He said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." Said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And I didn't know what that meant until I started getting into business and I started saying, "Oh my gosh, my first two or three tiers on my value ladder, all that money is going back into just paying for customers. It's not until tier three, four, five, I start actually making money." And the deeper you can go into your value ladder without making any money, the more successful you're going to be, right? Because whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins, according to Dan Kennedy, who is my mentor, and I trust everything my mentors say to me, so it's very, very true. Okay. So I want to kind of start with that. Now, the next thing I want to talk is... Again, most of you guys at this point have some kind of value ladder, but the thing, and this is where I talked about the real secret behind the value ladder, the thing I really want to share with you guys today, and this is the nugget that hopefully you get and you're like, "Oh my gosh, I got value." And then we'll open up to take some Q and A's and stuff. So the big secret is each tier of the value ladder, the thing that you sell at that tier has got two goals. Number one is to provide value, right? It's to scratch the itch they have, right? So you give them this thing that's like, "Oh my gosh, I got value. That was amazing. I scratched my itch." But usually when you solve one problem for somebody, it opens up a new problem. Right? So, for example, when I give you a book on how to grow your company funnels, you like, "I read this book. I got value." And then, all the sudden, you're like, "Oh my gosh, I need a funnel." And then, hey, lo and behold, guess what I sell? I have this funnel software that I sell called ClickFunnels. You should use it, right? And so it opens up the next thing. Each tier on the value ladder should provide value, help somebody at that tier, and then, and then by giving them that value, it should open up the next step, right? Because after you have a funnel, what do you need? Well, for me, you buy my first book. It's like, "Here's how to build a funnel." And then second book like, "Hey, here's how to do the messaging for your funnel." Third book's how to get traffic to your funnel. It moves somebody up and down. So the first time I got this... Some of you guys know Chet Holmes. Chet Holmes passed away a few years ago. He wrote The Ultimate Sales Machine, which is still, to this day, one of my top 10 favorite business books. Chet actually became a friend of mine. I spent a lot of time with him in business and traveling, and just had a lot of respect for him. As I was working with him, he wanted us to help him with one part of their business. And so, because that, he opened up his books and showed me his entire business model, which was really, really cool. So he showed me this entire business model, and I want to walk you guys through how it works. Because when he showed this to me, this is one of the first time I got it. That each step of my value ladder is selling the next thing. So the way Chet's business model works is he runs radio ads, right? So he's running radio ads. In the radio ad, it would say, basically, "Call this number to get nine free reports," or something like that. So they'd run the radio ads. It would call the number. Someone would answer the phone, say, "Hey, what email address do you want to email your nine free reports to?" You give them an email address, cool. And said, "Hey, why have you on the line, Chet normally..." He used to do these seminars that were three hours long. He would fly around the country and people would pay, I can't remember, $800 to come to these three hour long seminars to help them to grow their company. And because you're at home, we're doing virtual seminars, and how would you like to come to these virtual seminars? And he said, the seminar for you guys, for virtual one, was $300, but the cool thing is you don't have to pay for it up front. You can come to the seminar, attend the entire thing, then after it's over, if you liked it, then you pay the $300. Right? And so that's how Chet's value ladder began. Okay? And so that's kind of where I got to dive in. So I started going on these seminars. I wanted to understand what he was doing. And I'd watch this three hour long web seminar that they would run, and they would teach people and coach them show them all this amazing stuff. It was awesome. The three-hour training was worth the $300 bucks. And so, when the three hour training was done, at the end of it, he said, "Hey, really quick, I want to find out from all you guys. The last three hours, was it worth it? If it was, tell me, and if so, we'll bill you the agreed upon $297, like we agreed upon. But if not, let me know and we won't bill your credit card. Totally cool. No harm, no foul." And he'd go person by person. These web classes would have like 10 people on a time. So he'd be like, "Joe, how was it for you? Was it good?" And then Joe would be like, "Yeah, it was awesome." Then he'd be like, "Cool. Sam, Julie, Mike..." And he'd go through everyone and get everybody to say yes, and they'd bill their credit cards. And he said, "Okay, now that the seminar is over. It's officially over. Got all the value. Really quick. The biggest question people ask us after they go through this experience is, I want more. What's the next step? What's the next tier?" And he said, "Do you care if I spend a couple minutes talking about our six week long mentoring program where we can take these principles and help you instill them inside your business?" And of course, everyone's like, "Oh, sure, definitely." And he walked and transitioned to the six week program and he explained it all. And then, from there, he would try to close every single person on the call on the six week program. Right? And so then that was the next step in the theater. And then you went through six week program. At the end of the six week program, they give them two bonus calls, right? And the two bonus calls are with the coach, trying to figure where they're at and where they're trying to get. And then, from there, the coach upsold them to the next program, to the higher ticket program. And so, each tier in the value ladder provided value, provided the thing they promised. And the end of it, there was a mechanism, there was a tool, there was a process in place that then took that person and ascended them to the next tier inside the value ladder. Okay? That was the key. And as I started watching, I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." And what Chet did in his business, it was really fascinating. This is kind of off topic, but just an idea to put in your guys' head. Every single person in Chet's organization, his entire company, everybody was paid a percentage of the sale. So what would happen is that the person buying the radio ads, he or she would get a percentage of the money that came from the webinar one, and then from the six week program, and all the way through the entire line, so they all were incentivized. The person in sales on the webinar got incentivized on everything that happened after that person touched them, and so on and so forth. The way he structured it... I remember him sitting there. He said, "Russell, this is the secret to business. Don't have tons of overhead. It'll drown you." He said, "You got to set up your structure so that everybody's paid based on a percentage of commission." He's like, "That way, when you have big months, everyone gets big checks and small months, everyone get small checks, but we all do it together. That way you're not stuck with the overhead and things." Unfortunately, I didn't use that in ClickFunnels. I wish I would have. If I get all 400 employees that work here to... I'm just joking, but it was really just a cool thing. So this was the secret to value ladder that Chet taught me, is that each tier in the value ladder, part of the product, part of the thing that they're buying, actually ascends them to the next tier. Okay? There's a good way and a bad way to do this, too. I've seen this in the past, when I've bought somebody's book, where I'm like, I see the book, the ad's awesome. I buy the book and I read it, and the entire book is a sales letter for their next thing. I hate that. That drives me crazy. But if you look at my process, I want to blow people's minds. So if you go through it and you read the DotCom Secrets book, you'll notice that the entire book, like whatever 297 pages, is just pure strategy, tactics, like nothing. And at the end of it, there's a little chapter on, "Hey, if you need a tool to help this, it's called ClickFunnels." And we push them to ClickFunnels, right? And then there's a sequence after they buy the book. There's a whole marketing sequence that gets somebody from there to the next tier in our value ladder. Right? Then if someone comes to 2 Comma Club Live event, right? It's a virtual event. It's three days long. They go through the process. And inside of that event, that is the mechanism where we sell our 2 Comma Club X Coaching program, right? And so they go to that and they join 2 Comma Club X, okay? And in the past, I had an inner circle and my Category Kings, which has been closed for about two years now, but I'm going to sprinkle some hints here. I'm actually reopening those here this year, which is exciting. And so what's cool about it is then people inside 2 Comma Club X, they can then naturally ascend up the next year. And then people inside of the inner circle then can naturally ascend up our Category Kings. And so there's a process in place, but everything is designed and structured around knowing that I've got to give them the value I promise them, but then, at the end of it, there's some mechanism that moves them to the next tier, that moves them up the value ladder. Okay? That's the power. That's the real secret behind the values. Not just having a value ladder of, oh, there's a product here, product here, product here. It's structuring your product so that the product does the selling to move somebody to the next tier. Okay? If you guys come to Funnel Hacking Live, you will notice something. Most of our speakers, not all of them, but most of them are people who are in my inner circle. They are in our 2 Comma Club X Coaching program, things like that. And so, as we introduce them, we're like, "Hey, here's 2 Comma Club X Coaching member, so-and-so." And so they see this and people see over and over and over again, that the people who are on stage are the people in the next program higher, and it gives people incentive to want to go and ascend up and move up the value ladder. Does that make sense? So these are just some of the things, but that's the real secret in value ladder is structuring your products in a way that, number one, gives so much value that they want to ascend up, and number two, there should be mechanisms built inside of each tier that actually physically move them to the next tier. Okay? You get Chet Holmes on his free web class at the beginning. At the end of it, pushed them into six week program. In the six week program, he had two bonuses coaching calls. Those coaching calls were then there to send them to the next tier and so on and so forth. And so, that's kind of the process of what a value ladder is. But, again, this is the piece I wanted you guys to get. The real secret is understanding that. 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Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, and we are trying out something really fun and new and exciting for the Marketing Secrets podcast and so wanted to tell you about it. So I did an episode that was actually live, we called it the Marketing Secrets Live Show and we did it on Clubhouse. And instead of me just talking for 15, 20 minutes, like a typical podcast, I did talk for 15, 20 minutes and at the end of it, I opened it for Q&A, we spent about 40 minutes on doing Q&A and it was a really cool experience for so many reasons.

One was a chance to answer questions for a bunch of you guys. Number two is just it was fun doing it live and the energy was cool. So I think we're going to keep on doing it and want to invite you if you want to come on any of our live shows. All you do is go to clubhousewithrussell.com. It's clubhousewithrussell.com. It redirects you to the Marketing Secrets Live clubhouse room and you can join that room and then you'll be notified when we go live. I'll probably go live once a week or so and again, I'll be spending 15, 20 minutes talking and then after that, we'll go into Q&A and it'll be fun.

So the next episode's going to be special. The first one is going to be my 15 to 20 minutes of me talking about the concept I want to talk about that day and the next step episode I'll share with you is the Q&A, and I hope you enjoy both sides of it and hopefully gets you pumped to come to the next Marketing Secrets Live show. Again, it'll be on Clubhouse, so make sure you get the Clubhouse app.

But again, if you go to clubhousewithrussell.com, you can register. And with that said, I'm going to pick up at the very beginning of the Live Clubhouse and we'll go from there.

We're here, everybody. What's up. This is our, technically it's the second time I've gone live on the platform. First time was a huge train wreck, we'll talk about that in a minute, but this is round two and I'm here. And Yhennifer, how are you feeling today?

Yhennifer: I am feeling amazing, so excited to be here. I know that we were on for the funnel hacking live room and it was bananas. So I know that this one is also going to be amazing. Don't forget to make me a moderator real quick.

Russell: You're officially now a moderator.

Yhennifer: Awesome. There we go. I got the badge. I made it in the world.

Russell: Amazing. I'm learning how to use it all. Okay. Can you hear me well? This is my first time using the setup and everything, I want to make sure you can hear me.

Yhennifer: Yes, we can hear you perfectly fine. Welcome everybody.

Russell: Welcome. Welcome. All right. Well, let me, while waiting for a few more people to jump on here for a second, I'll tell you guys what the game plan is, what we're trying to do here and then we'll dive into it. So we're going to be live for about an hour for about an hour and this is my second time officially using Clubhouse. I've been in Clubhouse a lot as a guest and hanging out, but the second time didn't get a room. First time I tried to do a room, did not know what I was doing, jumped in there. I brought everybody up to become speakers and it was chaos and anyway, it was kind of crazy. So I stepped back from it and was like, okay, I want to do this again but I want to do it this time a little more strategically.

And so the game plan for what we're going to do is I'm going to basically be doing an episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. So I'm going to talk for probably 15 minutes or so on a topic and then when that's done, Yhennifer is going to be my amazing, co-host, help me with this whole process, making sure I don't mess it up. Then we're going to bring you guys up, whoever wants to come up and ask questions or give comments or share things to deepen what we're talking about with everybody else. And that's the plan, so I think it should be fun. Anything I'm forgetting?

Yhennifer: Yes. Make sure that you pin some people into this room. You have that little plus sign at the bottom guys, as you are hopping on here. Invite some friends that will be interested in what we're going to be talking about today, which is the secret behind the value ladder.

Russell: It's so fun. All right. And I've also got this really cool, I feel professional, I've got a little board here. I click buttons, and if I tell you guys a joke, check this out. Did you hear that?

Yhennifer: That is amazing.

Russell: So I can do that. If we talk about money, I can be like this. And I also got the theme song for the Marketing Secrets podcast loaded up here. So this is the live version of the Marketing Secrets podcast, which I'm pumped for, hopefully you guys are pumped for as well. Like I said, I got about 15 minutes of stuff I'm going to talk about and then we'll open up for Q&A's. And so that is the game plan. So again, if you want to invite anybody you know, please invite them and then what I'm going to do is I'm going to queue the theme song right now and then we'll play it and we'll come back at 15 minutes to talk and then we'll open the blinds for Q&A. Does that sound good?

Yhennifer: Awesome. Let's get the party started guys.

Russell: All right, with that said, here is the theme song.

All right, everybody. Welcome to our first ever official Marketing Secrets live show. I'm so excited to be here with you guys. We are doing this live on Clubhouse, which is kind of cool. This is my first time really producing something like this, and I'm excited.

So if anyone who is a listener to my podcast, you know that usually I spend about 15, 20 minutes talking about a topic and it ends there. I want to use this platform as a way for me to be able to talk about what I'm thinking about for next 15, 20 minutes and then, when it's finished, jump on with you guys and do Q and A and answer questions. Or if you guys want to share ideas or thoughts, whatever it is. It should be fun, so that's the game plan.

The thing I want to talk about today... We titled this one The Real Secret Behind The Value Ladder. I did it for a couple of reasons. Number one is the value ladder is probably one of the least understood principles inside of this marketing game. And it's funny, because I think when you explain it, it's really simple, and be like, "Oh, I get it. I get it."

But when I look at people's businesses, when they come in for consulting or they hire me for coaching or whatever it is, I look at it and some people have what we call a value maze, where there's 8 million different ways that a potential customer could go and it's confusing. And I'm like, "Where do you take a customer?" And they have all sorts of different things, right? I'm like, "Well, value maze is not a value ladder." So that's one thing. Where number two is like, "Oh, they have a product." They've got one thing and they're missing some of these, these key components.

And so I want to share with you guys really quickly what the value ladder is, but then there's a big thing that most people are missing. And it is key. It's the key to ascend somebody from one spot to the next in your value ladder. It's the key to actually serve people with the highest level of value. It's the key to really have success and help your customers have success.

And so, that's the stuff I want to talk about today. I'm going to geek out on this at a deeper level than I typically do because I'm hanging out with a bunch of people who are on Clubhouse. That means you guys are as nerdy as me if you're here with five minutes worth of warning that we're going live for marketing seminar, right?

And so that's kind of the game plan. So, and then after afterwards, like I said, we'll open for Q and A and do some questions. If you guys have any feedback or if you want to share your value ladders and things like that and how you transition people from step to step, that's game plan.

Okay. So, a couple of things. The value ladder right now is more important than anything I could talk to you about for a lot of reasons. One of the biggest ones is obviously with all of the changes happening in advertising between Apple and Facebook and their feud. I'm assuming that most of you guys have noticed that your cost per acquisition in most of your marketing campaigns, if you're buying ads on Facebook, have probably gone up. For a lot of you guys, it's gone up substantially, am I right? Okay.

If you've read the DotCom secrets book, one of the quotes that I talk about a lot from my mentor, Dan Kennedy, he said that whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins. Okay? This is something that like... I don't have tattoos, but if I had a tattoo, it would be tattooed on my forearm so I would never forget this. This is how important it is, right? Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins.

I remember when I first got started in this game, I heard him say that and it didn't make any sense to me, okay? And I think a lot of you guys who have been in the market right now, playing this game for a couple of years, it's been easy if I'm completely honest. Facebook ads have made things easy and a lot of people made a lot of money without having to be really good entrepreneurs and really good marketers and really understanding things because it was easy. It was easy.

If any of you guys had a chance to read my newest book, my third book, Traffic Secrets, the intro of Traffic Secrets, that the title was, there's a storm coming. Some of you guys probably read that. It was right when Coronavirus hit is when the book launched. And I said, "There's a storm coming." It's been so simple for so many years and I've been doing this now... This is my 19th year in this business, so I was playing this game before Facebook, before MySpace... Actually, Friendster was the hot social network at the time when I started this game.

And so I've had a chance to see the ups and the downs and watch what happens to advertising platforms and networks over two decades now. I wanted to warn everybody, because so many people who have got in this game in the last few years where it was easy, where it's we focus on Facebook, and I'm like, "You guys have to understand there's a storm coming. We have to look at things differently. And if you're not, you're going to be in trouble."

I think the real first big wave of that has been hitting right now with the battle between Apple and Facebook and all the things. I've seen a lot of people who messaged me, who are freaking out, who'd be like, "Our ad costs are going up. What do we do? What do we do?" The reality is what you should do is you should be celebrating, okay? If you're an actual marketer, if you're a funnel hacker, if you're of our people, right? You've been hearing me preach this now for a decade, right? Whoever can spend the most money to acquire customer wins, right?

If you understand that, the fact that all the CPAs, the cost per acquisition, these costs are going up and it's getting more and more expensive should not scare you to death. It should make you excited because all it really means is that more and more people are going to fall out of the game. Okay? Less competition, less people, less people fighting over ad dollars, all those kind of things. It's going to drop, okay, because the real marketers are going to keep playing the game and the rest of them are going to disappear.

Like I said, I've been doing this now two decades. I've seen this. I've seen people who are making millions of dollars a month one day. And then, because of an algorithm shift, they're now out of business and I've never seen them come back, which blows my mind to this day, is because they didn't understand these core principles. And so, the core principle I want to drill into your guys' mind today is the concept of a value ladder, and then I'm going to show you guys the actual secret behind the value ladder. That's the key that makes this whole thing work, okay?

So the basics of the value ladders... If anyone who has been around me for more than five minutes, you've heard me talk about this before, so I'm not going to spend too much time on the actual value ladder, because that part's the most simple, but a value ladder is like... Somebody comes into your world, right? And you give them some value.

So my goal is... Obviously, there's a lot of free things I do online, right? My free podcast. I'm doing this live right now, right? Some of you guys are jumping into this room and this is the bottom of my value ladder, right? It didn't cost you any money, okay, but I'm providing value. Hopefully if I do a good job of it, you're going to be like, "Man, that Russell guy? He talks kind of fast, but I got some value that was really quick. What else does he have?" Right? And you naturally want more.

That's the cool thing about human beings. If we receive value of something, we naturally want more. So if you see cool video or podcast, or you're here on Clubhouse, or something, you get some value, you're going to start looking around. You're like, "Hey, Russell talked about that book. What was that book he said? Oh, DotCom Secrets, or Traffic Secrets." Whatever one grabs your attention, right? And you're going to go online and go to DotComSecrets.com. You go over there, and you're like, "There's the book. $9.95 shipping and handling." You're like, "Whoa, in the Clubhouse room, he spent an hour with us and that was amazing. Can you imagine what I would get if I actually read his book." Right?

You put your credit card in. You buy the book. Then you get the book and you start reading it, right? Now you're moving up my value ladder. You start reading the book and you're like, "Oh my gosh, this funnel thing is really, really cool. In this book, he talks about the 10 core funnels and how they work and, all of a sudden, I see how it could work in my business and I can see how it works in other people's..." And you start freaking out. You're like, "This is so amazing." Right? And you got value. You're like, "I paid 10 bucks and look at the value I got from this thing. This is insane, right?"

And then what happens? You naturally want more. You start looking. "What's the next thing? What else does Russell have?" Start looking around, and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, Russell is doing this 2 Comma Club Live virtual event coming up in two weeks. I want to be part of that. What is that?" Okay. So you go, you sign up for the event, and I try to provide value first.

So the way that 2 Comma Club Live works is you put in your credit card and you go through the entire three-day experience for free. Then, afterwards, you decide if it's worth it, right? So there's no me trying to scam anybody out of money. It's like, look, come show up. I'm going to serve you like crazy, and at the end of it decide if it was worth it. If it is, then you can pay for. If not, then don't. Right?

So they come through, do 2 Comma Club Live Event, and they go through this experience for three days and they're learning, they're growing, and they're getting all this stuff. They're like, "This is amazing. I'm getting so much value from this. What else does he have?" Right? And then you look at Funnel Hacking Live, our big live event, or maybe it's our 2 Comma Club Coaching.

Or if you're inside of 2 Comma Club Coaching, after you've gone through that process, you're like, "What's next? I want the next thing." So, after you've gone through our 2 Comma Club Coaching program, it's a $25,000 program, our next tier up is my inner circle, right? And then after my inner circle, there's new program coming out called Category Kings.

And so this is my value ladder, right? It all starts with me coming out there and putting out as much value as possible and, if you like it, you're going to naturally want more. Okay? So that's kind of the concept of value ladder. Again, I don't want to go too much deeper than that because you can read about in the DotCom Secrets book, and I've talked about a lot of other places. That's the core concept I wanted to put out there. Right?

And so, the reason why these ads are changing, right? Ad costs are going up and everyone's freaking out. That's why this is so important because what will typically happen is most business owners... And I see this so much, even inside our funnel hacker community, unfortunately, is they create a product and have this product and it works really well and they start selling that product. Right now, because the game has been easy for the last four or five years, they spend $50 in ads. They make a $100. They're like, "Oh, this game works." Right?

But now with all these different changes, and the algorithm shifting, and the fight between Apple and Google and Facebook and things, now these costs are going up. Well, now you're spending a $100 to make $100. And then, it's eventually going to be $200 to make a $100, right? And all of the amateurs are starting to fall away, okay?

I remember my very first marketing seminar I ever went to, I heard Mike Lemon said... He said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." Said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And I didn't know what that meant until I started getting into business and I started saying, "Oh my gosh, my first two or three tiers on my value ladder, all that money is going back into just paying for customers. It's not until tier three, four, five, I start actually making money."

And the deeper you can go into your value ladder without making any money, the more successful you're going to be, right? Because whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins, according to Dan Kennedy, who is my mentor, and I trust everything my mentors say to me, so it's very, very true.

Okay. So I want to kind of start with that. Now, the next thing I want to talk is... Again, most of you guys at this point have some kind of value ladder, but the thing, and this is where I talked about the real secret behind the value ladder, the thing I really want to share with you guys today, and this is the nugget that hopefully you get and you're like, "Oh my gosh, I got value." And then we'll open up to take some Q and A's and stuff.

So the big secret is each tier of the value ladder, the thing that you sell at that tier has got two goals. Number one is to provide value, right? It's to scratch the itch they have, right? So you give them this thing that's like, "Oh my gosh, I got value. That was amazing. I scratched my itch." But usually when you solve one problem for somebody, it opens up a new problem. Right?

So, for example, when I give you a book on how to grow your company funnels, you like, "I read this book. I got value." And then, all the sudden, you're like, "Oh my gosh, I need a funnel." And then, hey, lo and behold, guess what I sell? I have this funnel software that I sell called ClickFunnels. You should use it, right?

And so it opens up the next thing. Each tier on the value ladder should provide value, help somebody at that tier, and then, and then by giving them that value, it should open up the next step, right? Because after you have a funnel, what do you need? Well, for me, you buy my first book. It's like, "Here's how to build a funnel." And then second book like, "Hey, here's how to do the messaging for your funnel." Third book's how to get traffic to your funnel. It moves somebody up and down.

So the first time I got this... Some of you guys know Chet Holmes. Chet Holmes passed away a few years ago. He wrote The Ultimate Sales Machine, which is still, to this day, one of my top 10 favorite business books. Chet actually became a friend of mine. I spent a lot of time with him in business and traveling, and just had a lot of respect for him. As I was working with him, he wanted us to help him with one part of their business. And so, because that, he opened up his books and showed me his entire business model, which was really, really cool.

So he showed me this entire business model, and I want to walk you guys through how it works. Because when he showed this to me, this is one of the first time I got it. That each step of my value ladder is selling the next thing.

So the way Chet's business model works is he runs radio ads, right? So he's running radio ads. In the radio ad, it would say, basically, "Call this number to get nine free reports," or something like that. So they'd run the radio ads. It would call the number. Someone would answer the phone, say, "Hey, what email address do you want to email your nine free reports to?" You give them an email address, cool. And said, "Hey, why have you on the line, Chet normally..."

He used to do these seminars that were three hours long. He would fly around the country and people would pay, I can't remember, $800 to come to these three hour long seminars to help them to grow their company. And because you're at home, we're doing virtual seminars, and how would you like to come to these virtual seminars?

And he said, the seminar for you guys, for virtual one, was $300, but the cool thing is you don't have to pay for it up front. You can come to the seminar, attend the entire thing, then after it's over, if you liked it, then you pay the $300. Right? And so that's how Chet's value ladder began. Okay? And so that's kind of where I got to dive in.

So I started going on these seminars. I wanted to understand what he was doing. And I'd watch this three hour long web seminar that they would run, and they would teach people and coach them show them all this amazing stuff. It was awesome. The three-hour training was worth the $300 bucks. And so, when the three hour training was done, at the end of it, he said, "Hey, really quick, I want to find out from all you guys. The last three hours, was it worth it? If it was, tell me, and if so, we'll bill you the agreed upon $297, like we agreed upon. But if not, let me know and we won't bill your credit card. Totally cool. No harm, no foul."

And he'd go person by person. These web classes would have like 10 people on a time. So he'd be like, "Joe, how was it for you? Was it good?" And then Joe would be like, "Yeah, it was awesome." Then he'd be like, "Cool. Sam, Julie, Mike..." And he'd go through everyone and get everybody to say yes, and they'd bill their credit cards.

And he said, "Okay, now that the seminar is over. It's officially over. Got all the value. Really quick. The biggest question people ask us after they go through this experience is, I want more. What's the next step? What's the next tier?" And he said, "Do you care if I spend a couple minutes talking about our six week long mentoring program where we can take these principles and help you instill them inside your business?" And of course, everyone's like, "Oh, sure, definitely."

And he walked and transitioned to the six week program and he explained it all. And then, from there, he would try to close every single person on the call on the six week program. Right? And so then that was the next step in the theater. And then you went through six week program. At the end of the six week program, they give them two bonus calls, right? And the two bonus calls are with the coach, trying to figure where they're at and where they're trying to get. And then, from there, the coach upsold them to the next program, to the higher ticket program.

And so, each tier in the value ladder provided value, provided the thing they promised. And the end of it, there was a mechanism, there was a tool, there was a process in place that then took that person and ascended them to the next tier inside the value ladder. Okay? That was the key. And as I started watching, I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing."

And what Chet did in his business, it was really fascinating. This is kind of off topic, but just an idea to put in your guys' head. Every single person in Chet's organization, his entire company, everybody was paid a percentage of the sale. So what would happen is that the person buying the radio ads, he or she would get a percentage of the money that came from the webinar one, and then from the six week program, and all the way through the entire line, so they all were incentivized.

The person in sales on the webinar got incentivized on everything that happened after that person touched them, and so on and so forth. The way he structured it... I remember him sitting there. He said, "Russell, this is the secret to business. Don't have tons of overhead. It'll drown you." He said, "You got to set up your structure so that everybody's paid based on a percentage of commission." He's like, "That way, when you have big months, everyone gets big checks and small months, everyone get small checks, but we all do it together. That way you're not stuck with the overhead and things." Unfortunately, I didn't use that in ClickFunnels. I wish I would have. If I get all 400 employees that work here to... I'm just joking, but it was really just a cool thing.

So this was the secret to value ladder that Chet taught me, is that each tier in the value ladder, part of the product, part of the thing that they're buying, actually ascends them to the next tier. Okay? There's a good way and a bad way to do this, too. I've seen this in the past, when I've bought somebody's book, where I'm like, I see the book, the ad's awesome. I buy the book and I read it, and the entire book is a sales letter for their next thing. I hate that. That drives me crazy.

But if you look at my process, I want to blow people's minds. So if you go through it and you read the DotCom Secrets book, you'll notice that the entire book, like whatever 297 pages, is just pure strategy, tactics, like nothing. And at the end of it, there's a little chapter on, "Hey, if you need a tool to help this, it's called ClickFunnels." And we push them to ClickFunnels, right?

And then there's a sequence after they buy the book. There's a whole marketing sequence that gets somebody from there to the next tier in our value ladder. Right? Then if someone comes to 2 Comma Club Live event, right? It's a virtual event. It's three days long. They go through the process. And inside of that event, that is the mechanism where we sell our 2 Comma Club X Coaching program, right? And so they go to that and they join 2 Comma Club X, okay? And in the past, I had an inner circle and my Category Kings, which has been closed for about two years now, but I'm going to sprinkle some hints here. I'm actually reopening those here this year, which is exciting. And so what's cool about it is then people inside 2 Comma Club X, they can then naturally ascend up the next year. And then people inside of the inner circle then can naturally ascend up our Category Kings.

And so there's a process in place, but everything is designed and structured around knowing that I've got to give them the value I promise them, but then, at the end of it, there's some mechanism that moves them to the next tier, that moves them up the value ladder. Okay? That's the power. That's the real secret behind the values. Not just having a value ladder of, oh, there's a product here, product here, product here. It's structuring your product so that the product does the selling to move somebody to the next tier. Okay?

If you guys come to Funnel Hacking Live, you will notice something. Most of our speakers, not all of them, but most of them are people who are in my inner circle. They are in our 2 Comma Club X Coaching program, things like that. And so, as we introduce them, we're like, "Hey, here's 2 Comma Club X Coaching member, so-and-so."

And so they see this and people see over and over and over again, that the people who are on stage are the people in the next program higher, and it gives people incentive to want to go and ascend up and move up the value ladder. Does that make sense?

So these are just some of the things, but that's the real secret in value ladder is structuring your products in a way that, number one, gives so much value that they want to ascend up, and number two, there should be mechanisms built inside of each tier that actually physically move them to the next tier. Okay?

You get Chet Holmes on his free web class at the beginning. At the end of it, pushed them into six week program. In the six week program, he had two bonuses coaching calls. Those coaching calls were then there to send them to the next tier and so on and so forth.

And so, that's kind of the process of what a value ladder is. But, again, this is the piece I wanted you guys to get. The real secret is understanding that. Creating tons of value and building the mechanism to actually get somebody to ascend to the next tier.

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]]> 1480 no Some Really Cool Lessons From Matt and Caleb Maddix https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/some-really-cool-lessons-from-matt-and-caleb-maddix We spent the weekend serving with Matt and Caleb Maddix. Here are a few quick things we learned that have forever changed my life. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys are doing awesome today. I just got back from Arizona, back from a wrestling practice, driving into the office. So many fun things I want to talk about. So with that said, let's cue the theme song. We come back, we're going to talk about friend groups, changing your identity, and whole bunch of other really cool things. All right, so this last week has been amazing. Some of guys know I'm training for a wrestling tournament. I actually leave in two days from when I'm recording this to fly out to Florida. It's a three-day tournament day. Day number one is beach wrestling, which, come on now, that sounds insane. I've never done it before. Apparently, they draw a big circle in the sand, and you beat each other up. I'm so excited. So that's number one. Day two, just freestyle, and day three is Greco. Three different styles, and I'm excited. I last time I wrestled was actually about two years ago, before COVID, and it was a tournament I went to, and it was the first time I actually competed at that point in 15 years. Hadn't competed since I was wrestling in college. And I went to that tournament, was planning on getting into shape, went to one practice, tore my neck out, and then just showed up to the tournament, and did all right. I had fun. And this time around, I was like, "Okay, let's try to prepare a little more." So I'm lighter, about 10 pounds, maybe 15 pounds lighter than I used to be, but I'm still in the same weight class, which is going to be frustrating because the next weight class is another like 12-14 pounds down, and I was like, "I'm not willing to do that." So wrestling guys will be bigger than me this time, but I'm in better shape this time. I had about a month worth of ... well, probably eight practices, but over three or four weeks, and anyway, so excited. My body's sore, it's bruised, my ears are swollen, but I'm pumped. So anyway, I got to go to wrestling practice, I'm heading in right now, but anyway, last week, we had a chance to fly out to Arizona and do a couple of things. Number one is I spoke at Dean and Tony's Own Your Future Challenge, which is really fun. And then, after that, I brought my two kids out to kind of ... Two of my kids, I've got five kids. I brought my twin boys out there, and partially because I wanted them to see me working, right? Like I want them to see like, "This is what your dad does for a living. Look how cool this is. I have a chance to speak in front of half a million people virtually, right?" So I'm going to show him that. And then, afterwards, I wanted to help them to, I don't know, just realize how good they have it. So we went out with Matt and Caleb Maddix, and we went out to the streets of Arizona, and we found a place where the homeless people live, and we had a chance to go out there and to feed them. And I'd never done some of that before, it was really cool. We literally drove to Little Caesars and bought a whole bunch of pizzas, to the grocery store, bought popsicles and drinks, and drove out there and parked and just handed out food to people. And we did two days in a row, and it was this really, really cool experience with my kids and everything. It was awesome. But what I want to talk about in this podcast, because I have of stuff coming like, the last day we recorded a three hour podcast with a whole bunch of young entrepreneurs. I think that'll be an episode here soon and a bunch of other ... A lot of cool stuff. But what I want to talk about was just the power of who you're around. And it's interesting, I'm writing my fourth book, as you guys know, and I've been trying to focus on like, "How do we create identity shifts? How do we become who we need to be to be able to reach the goals and things we have," right? And there's a lot of things, a lot of different levers you can pull to be able to come who you need to be. And so, there's identities, there's beliefs, there's rules, there's all these different things, and one of the people that I know who is really big in that kind of stuff is Tom Bilyeu. I actually texted him and asked him some questions about his beliefs on it, and then he messaged me back, and we ended up jumping on a call and talked about 45 minutes. Maybe I'll make call up podcast episode too. I don't know. I want to keep giving us all this cool stuff for hanging out with me. Anyway, it was interesting because, in there, we talked about how do you change someone's identity and beliefs and their rules and their values and things like that. He said, "One of the most powerful things you can do is you take people out of their existing environment. You put them in a peer group of people they respect, and eventually they will become like those people." And he told me that in this interview, that's how he started. He said, before, he was spending 10 hours a day playing video games, all sorts of stuff, and he got this new peer group of people who were having success, who were doing all these things, and he said, "I spent enough time around them, and I eventually wanted their respect, and so I wanted to become like them." And now, he's Tom Bilyeu, who's crazy. Anyway, he's awesome. But he said, "If I was training your kids," he's like, "I would take them. I would go to a desert island, and instead, if I want them to become an ax murderer, I put them with a whole bunch of ax murderers, and, eventually, they would become like that person. If I wanted them to be an athlete, no matter which athletes, eventually they'll become like that person." And he's talked about like how the peer group and the people you're around, how much that affects identity and beliefs and your rules, your values, and all those kinds of things, so it's interesting. So anyway, going into this trip to Arizona ... I don't know if you guys are teenager parents, but it's hard to be teenager parent. I love it, but man, it's hard. It's hard to motivate your kids to want to do things and get them excited. I try to figure out different ways to do it all the time, and it's hard as a parent because I don't know. It's funny, like no matter how cool other people think you are, your kids just think you're Dad, right? In fact, I had two or three times last trip people were like, "Yeah, you're so lucky that your dad's Russell." And the kids are like, "Why? He's just this annoying dad that talks about marketing and stuff," you know? But anyway, so it's hard as a parent to like, really ... I don't know. Like I do my best, but it's harder to get them to want to do the things that you want them to do and hope that for them to do, right? And so, it was cool because we went out to do this thing, we went out with Matt and Caleb. And Caleb was like the epitome of who my kids would want to be, right? He's successful, he speaks on stages, he's got YouTube channels, he's a podcaster, he's fun, he's happy, he's friends with all these successful people. And it was really cool because I brought my kids out there, and Caleb came and picked them up, and they jumped the car together. It's funny because I had spent two days with my kids trying to get them to talk. I asked them questions, they just kind of sit there. "I don't know. I don't know." Like, did they forget how to talk? Do teenagers don't know how to talk? And suddenly it was Caleb, this person who is similar to their age, someone in their peer group, someone who they aspire to be like, and they look up to, within two minutes, Caleb had them talking and sharing their dreams and their visions. And I'm sitting there in the car, I'm the front seat, they're in the back seat. And in like five minutes I have been spending time with Caleb, I know more about my kids at this point that I've known my entire 15 years of their existence. I'm like, "How in the world?" Like, "Why don't you guys talk to me like that? Why don't you tell me these things?" And it was so cool because the first thing Caleb did is ask them like, "Where do you want to be in 10 years from now?" And it's funny because my kids' default answer was "I don't know." And so, he asked them again, like, "Where do you want to be in 10 years from now? And 'I don't know' is not an acceptable answer." And it was crazy, within two or three minutes, each of my kids gave him where do they want to be in 10 years, and I was like, "Oh my gosh, that was so cool." And then, immediately, Caleb was not like, "Okay, well good luck." He was like, "Okay, for you to do that, first thing you need is need a mentor." And he looked at Dallin. He was like, "Dallin, what you're trying to do is what I do right now, so I'm going to become your mentor. I'm going to be your coach. I'm going to, blah, blah, blah." He's like, "Bowen, I got a friend who does exactly what you're trying to do, so he's become your mentor." And Caleb called the guy. He's like, "Hey, my friend here, he wants to be a hypnotist, and you're a hypnotist, and so can you come meet him? And can you become his mentor?" And the guy was like, "Sure." Within an hour, he comes out, and all of a sudden he's teaching my son had him ask people, and also my son's like, "This is the coolest thing ever!" And then, Caleb's helping Dallin talk about speaking and motivation and all these things. I'm sitting here, I was like, "This is insane." For two days, I watched my kids light up. They're on fire, they're excited, they're talking about their dreams, their passions, and it was funny because something Dallin said. He's like, "You know, all those people I hang out," this is not telling me, but I hear him talking to Caleb, "Most of my friends, they don't have many motivations or goals or dreams, they just kind of sit around and play video games all day," and I'm sitting there, I'm like, "Literally, Dallin, that was you three minutes ago." But he's seeing that because he already is not associating himself with an older peer group. He's associate himself with this peer group of people he's around now. Within a day of being around these people he loves and respects, looks up to. And anyway, it was so cool. It was so powerful. And there's so many lessons from this, but the one that I wanted to kind of think about is either for yourself or if you've got kids. It's like, "Who are they hanging out? Who are you hanging around with?" Right? I'm sure you've heard it said before that your income will be the average of your five closest friends. And I definitely believe that's true. You'll be as successful as your five closest friends, you'll be as good of an athlete as your five closest friends. Whoever you're around is who you're going to level up to be like, right? It's like Tom Bilyeu said, "If you want to be an ax murderer, or go to an island with a bunch of ax murderers, eventually you'll become like them," right? Or if you want to be an athlete, or you want to be a biohacker or a tech person or a programmer, it's all about who you surround yourself with. And so for you, like that's the first thing I do is to make an introspective ... Is that the word? Like, look at yourself and be like, "Where do I want to go?" And like, "Are the people that I'm around, are they there right now? Or are they trying to get me there? Or are they holding me back?" You got to be completely honest with yourself. That's the first thing. And if it's not where you want to be, it's like, "Okay, it's time to find a new friend group." Try to find people to be around that are going to pull you up. Doesn't mean have to get rid of your existing friends. You can still be friends them. That's awesome. But the key is like, if you really want to reach something and get there, you got to be around the people who think the way that you want to think, right? That's a big part of it. And secondly, if you're looking at it from your kid's standpoint, man, I mean, my big "aha" this weekend is just like, no matter how hard I try as a parent, the most valuable thing I can do is probably not me trying to teach them or coach them. I mean, obviously, I got to set a good example and do the things that I believe are right. But I think bigger, so I was like, "Who are the people that they're going to look up to? Who are they going to be around?" Because by default, our friends pick their friends, and sometimes they pick friends that are probably not the right friends for them, right? But if you can help facilitate and find the right friends, how cool is that? And the one thing that was really cool, I saw Matt Maddix, that's Caleb's dad, who kind of facilitated this whole thing. And it was really cool because he was there with Caleb and Caleb's friends, the one thing he told me in passing, he said, "I want to be able to mentor my son, so a part of that is I have to get to know my son's friends." He's like, "I try to be a mentor to my son's friends because I want to make sure that they're good people too." And so, all Caleb's friends we were hanging out with, they all love Matt, and Matt was coaching them and helping them and ... It was just so cool to see that. I'm like, "Oh, I got to be better at that. I need to become friends with my kids' friends. I got to be mentors them. I got to coach them. I got to help them because they're probably more likely to listen to me than their own parents, right?" Because I don't know why, but that's just how people work. And number two, it's like if I want to help guide the ship for my kids, helping guide their peer group is a big piece of it as well. So anyway, I got so many good lessons from this weekend. I wish you could see the way that Matt and Caleb and this friend group do, Matt's trained all of them. He's like, "If you're with somebody, if you're in a room with somebody, great. You need to ask them questions." And so, people are asking me questions about everyday, question after question after question. Went to sushi dinner, and it was like 500 questions in an hour from all the friends and all the people. But not only was it with me, it's like when went to the homeless people, and I remember there was a lady who was in a wheelchair, and first thing Matt does, he says, "This is my son right here. What advice would you give him?" And then, you ask questions like, "Man, you're out here living on the streets. It's got to be hard, but how do you keep your positive?" And I watched him drill this person, asking five, six, seven, eight, nine questions to this person who ... I wouldn't have thought to ask that person questions. It was so cool to watch them do it, and then watch that person light up and give feedback and inspiration. And I'm watching these amazing people out there who are teaching my kids about God and about Jesus and about hope and about faith and about the problems that got them there, and their dreams about how they want to get out of it. And it was just such a magical experience. And I watched Caleb and Matt and all the friend group there as they went to every single person they met. Like with the waiter or waitress in every restaurant we went to, he was like, "Hey, this is my son here. What advice would you give them?" or like ... Oh, it was so cool to see. I wish I could have captured it all and put it in a bottle for you guys. But anyway, those are some of the lessons. Those were some of the things I saw that were just powerful, that were really, really cool. So anyway, like I said, I'm probably going to go deeper and do some longer form podcasts, kind of going more on some of these principles and stuff, but these are the gifts I want to give you just a top of my head right now, while I'm still thinking about it, that had such a big impact on me, on my kids. So today, as I meet people, my goal is to ask more questions. There's so many cool things you can learn from everybody, especially the servers, the people around you, people that work for you, people you meet on the street, people you meet at a grocery store. I mean, they're asking the clerk checking us out. He was asking questions to the clerk. "How was your day today? What's going on? This is my son. What's the best piece of advice you could possibly give him?" Like to everybody, and I was like, "God, this is so cool." And I start watching again, Matt starts to sing, then I watched Caleb do it, and I watched Caleb's friends do it. I'm looking at this group of kids, and I'm like, "Man, these guys are progressing so fast because they're getting everybody's best tips from the millionaires they meet to the people who are living on the streets and a million people in between." And it's just like, man, how much of a shortcut to success is that than trying to go and learn these lessons on your own? Asking questions. So anyway, it was amazing. I want to thank Matt and Caleb for hosting me and the kids. It was such a great experience. With that said, I'm going to get some work done because I got to go fly out and wrestle here in a day and a half and got a lot to do before then. So with that said, I appreciate you guys. Thanks For listening, and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 May 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Some Really Cool Lessons From Matt and Caleb Maddix full 415 Russell Brunson | YAP Media We spent the weekend serving with Matt and Caleb Maddix. Here are a few quick things we learned that have forever changed my life. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody,... We spent the weekend serving with Matt and Caleb Maddix. Here are a few quick things we learned that have forever changed my life. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys are doing awesome today. I just got back from Arizona, back from a wrestling practice, driving into the office. So many fun things I want to talk about. So with that said, let's cue the theme song. We come back, we're going to talk about friend groups, changing your identity, and whole bunch of other really cool things. All right, so this last week has been amazing. Some of guys know I'm training for a wrestling tournament. I actually leave in two days from when I'm recording this to fly out to Florida. It's a three-day tournament day. Day number one is beach wrestling, which, come on now, that sounds insane. I've never done it before. Apparently, they draw a big circle in the sand, and you beat each other up. I'm so excited. So that's number one. Day two, just freestyle, and day three is Greco. Three different styles, and I'm excited. I last time I wrestled was actually about two years ago, before COVID, and it was a tournament I went to, and it was the first time I actually competed at that point in 15 years. Hadn't competed since I was wrestling in college. And I went to that tournament, was planning on getting into shape, went to one practice, tore my neck out, and then just showed up to the tournament, and did all right. I had fun. And this time around, I was like, "Okay, let's try to prepare a little more." So I'm lighter, about 10 pounds, maybe 15 pounds lighter than I used to be, but I'm still in the same weight class, which is going to be frustrating because the next weight class is another like 12-14 pounds down, and I was like, "I'm not willing to do that." So wrestling guys will be bigger than me this time, but I'm in better shape this time. I had about a month worth of ... well, probably eight practices, but over three or four weeks, and anyway, so excited. My body's sore, it's bruised, my ears are swollen, but I'm pumped. So anyway, I got to go to wrestling practice, I'm heading in right now, but anyway, last week, we had a chance to fly out to Arizona and do a couple of things. Number one is I spoke at Dean and Tony's Own Your Future Challenge, which is really fun. And then, after that, I brought my two kids out to kind of ... Two of my kids, I've got five kids. I brought my twin boys out there, and partially because I wanted them to see me working, right? Like I want them to see like, "This is what your dad does for a living. Look how cool this is. I have a chance to speak in front of half a million people virtually, right?" So I'm going to show him that. And then, afterwards, I wanted to help them to, I don't know, just realize how good they have it. So we went out with Matt and Caleb Maddix, and we went out to the streets of Arizona, and we found a place where the homeless people live, and we had a chance to go out there and to feed them. And I'd never done some of that before, it was really cool. We literally drove to Little Caesars and bought a whole bunch of pizzas, to the grocery store, bought popsicles and drinks, and drove out there and parked and just handed out food to people. And we did two days in a row, and it was this really, really cool experience with my kids and everything. It was awesome. But what I want to talk about in this podcast, because I have of stuff coming like, the last day we recorded a three hour podcast with a whole bunch of young entrepreneurs. I think that'll be an episode here soon and a bunch of other ... A lot of cool stuff. But what I want to talk about was just the power of who you're around. And it's interesting, I'm writing my fourth book, as you guys know, and I've been trying to focus on like, "How do we create identity shifts? How do we become who we need to be to be able to reach the goals and things we have," right? And there's a lot of things, a lot of different levers you can pull to be able to come who you need to be. And so, there's identities, there's beliefs, there's rules, there's all these different things, and one of the people that I know who is really big in that kind of stuff is Tom Bilyeu. I actually texted him and asked him some questions about his beliefs on it, and then he messaged me back, and we ended up jumping on a call and talked about 45 minutes. Maybe I'll make call up podcast episode too. I don't know. I want to keep giving us all this cool stuff for hanging out with me. Anyway, it was interesting because, in there, we talked about how do you change someone's identity and beliefs and their rules and their values and things like that. He said, "One of the most powerful things you can do is you take people out of their existing environment. You put them in a peer group of people they respect, and eventually they will become like those people." And he told me that in this interview, that's how he started. He said, before, he was spending 10 hours a day playing video games, all sorts of stuff, and he got this new peer group of people who were having success, who were doing all these things, and he said, "I spent enough time around them, and I eventually wanted their respect, and so I wanted to become like them." And now, he's Tom Bilyeu, who's crazy. Anyway, he's awesome. But he said, "If I was training your kids," he's like, "I would take them. I would go to a desert island, and instead, if I want them to become an ax murderer, I put them with a whole bunch of ax murderers, and, eventually, they would become like that person. If I wanted them to be an athlete, no matter which athletes, eventually they'll become like that person." And he's talked about like how the peer group and the people you're around, how much that affects identity and beliefs and your rules, your values, and all those kinds of things, so it's interesting. So anyway, going into this trip to Arizona ... I don't know if you guys are teenager parents, but it's hard to be teenager parent. I love it, but man, it's hard. It's hard to motivate your kids to want to do things and get them excited. I try to figure out different ways to do it all the time, and it's hard as a parent because I don't know. It's funny, like no matter how cool other people think you are, your kids just think you're Dad, right? In fact, I had two or three times last trip people were like, "Yeah, you're so lucky that your dad's Russell." And the kids are like, "Why? He's just this annoying dad that talks about marketing and stuff," you know? But anyway, so it's hard as a parent to like, really ... I don't know. Like I do my best, but it's harder to get them to want to do the things that you want them to do and hope that for them to do, right? And so, it was cool because we went out to do this thing, we went out with Matt and Caleb. And Caleb was like the epitome of who my kids would want to be, right? He's successful, he speaks on stages, he's got YouTube channels, he's a podcaster, he's fun, he's happy, he's friends with all these successful people. And it was really cool because I brought my kids out there, and Caleb came and picked them up, and they jumped the car together. It's funny because I had spent two days with my kids trying to get them to talk. I asked them questions, they just kind of sit there. "I don't know. I don't know." Like, did they forget how to talk? Do teenagers don't know how to talk? And suddenly it was Caleb, this person who is similar to their age, someone in their peer group, someone who they aspire to be like, and they look up to, within two minutes, Caleb had them talking and sharing their dreams and their visions. And I'm sitting there in the car, I'm the front seat, they're in the back seat. And in like five minutes I have been spending time with Caleb, I know more about my kids at this point that I've known my entire 15 years of their existence. I'm like, "How in the world?" Like, "Why don't you guys talk to me like that? Why don't you tell me these things?" And it was so cool because the first thing Caleb did is ask them like, "Where do you want to be in 10 years from now?" And it's funny because my kids' default answer was "I don't know." And so, he asked them again, like, "Where do you want to be in 10 years from now? And 'I don't know' is not an acceptable answer." And it was crazy, within two or three minutes, each of my kids gave him where do they want to be in 10 years, and I was like, "Oh my gosh, that was so cool." And then, immediately, Caleb was not like, "Okay, well good luck." He was like, "Okay, for you to do that, first thing you need is need a mentor." And he looked at Dallin. He was like, "Dallin, what you're trying to do is what I do right now, so I'm going to become your mentor. I'm going to be your coach. I'm going to, blah, blah, blah." He's like, "Bowen, I got a friend who does exactly what you're trying to do, so he's become your mentor." And Caleb called the guy. He's like, "Hey, my friend here, he wants to be a hypnotist, and you're a hypnotist, and so can you come meet him? And can you become his mentor?" And the guy was like, "Sure." Within an hour, he comes out, and all of a sudden he's teaching my son had him ask people, and also my son's like, "This is the coolest thing ever!" And then, Caleb's helping Dallin talk about speaking and motivation and all these things. I'm sitting here, I was like, "This is insane." For two days, I watched my kids light up. They're on fire, they're excited, they're talking about their dreams, their passions, and it was funny because something Dallin said. He's like, "You know, all those people I hang out," this is not telling me, but I hear him talking to Caleb, "Most of my friends, they don't have many motivations or goals or dreams, they just kind of sit around and play video games all day," and I'm sitting there, I'm like, "Literally, Dallin, that was you three minutes ago." But he's seeing that because he already is not associating himself with an older peer group. He's associate himself with this peer group of people he's around now. Within a day of being around these people he loves and respects, looks up to. And anyway, it was so cool. It was so powerful. And there's so many lessons from this, but the one that I wanted to kind of think about is either for yourself or if you've got kids. It's like, "Who are they hanging out? Who are you hanging around with?" Right? I'm sure you've heard it said before that your income will be the average of your five closest friends. And I definitely believe that's true. You'll be as successful as your five closest friends, you'll be as good of an athlete as your five closest friends. Whoever you're around is who you're going to level up to be like, right? It's like Tom Bilyeu said, "If you want to be an ax murderer, or go to an island with a bunch of ax murderers, eventually you'll become like them," right? Or if you want to be an athlete, or you want to be a biohacker or a tech person or a programmer, it's all about who you surround yourself with. And so for you, like that's the first thing I do is to make an introspective ... Is that the word? Like, look at yourself and be like, "Where do I want to go?" And like, "Are the people that I'm around, are they there right now? Or are they trying to get me there? Or are they holding me back?" You got to be completely honest with yourself. That's the first thing. And if it's not where you want to be, it's like, "Okay, it's time to find a new friend group." Try to find people to be around that are going to pull you up. Doesn't mean have to get rid of your existing friends. You can still be friends them. That's awesome. But the key is like, if you really want to reach something and get there, you got to be around the people who think the way that you want to think, right? That's a big part of it. And secondly, if you're looking at it from your kid's standpoint, man, I mean, my big "aha" this weekend is just like, no matter how hard I try as a parent, the most valuable thing I can do is probably not me trying to teach them or coach them. I mean, obviously, I got to set a good example and do the things that I believe are right. But I think bigger, so I was like, "Who are the people that they're going to look up to? Who are they going to be around?" Because by default, our friends pick their friends, and sometimes they pick friends that are probably not the right friends for them, right? But if you can help facilitate and find the right friends, how cool is that? And the one thing that was really cool, I saw Matt Maddix, that's Caleb's dad, who kind of facilitated this whole thing. And it was really cool because he was there with Caleb and Caleb's friends, the one thing he told me in passing, he said, "I want to be able to mentor my son, so a part of that is I have to get to know my son's friends." He's like, "I try to be a mentor to my son's friends because I want to make sure that they're good people too." And so, all Caleb's friends we were hanging out with, they all love Matt, and Matt was coaching them and helping them and ... It was just so cool to see that. I'm like, "Oh, I got to be better at that. I need to become friends with my kids' friends. I got to be mentors them. I got to coach them. I got to help them because they're probably more likely to listen to me than their own parents, right?" Because I don't know why, but that's just how people work. And number two, it's like if I want to help guide the ship for my kids, helping guide their peer group is a big piece of it as well. So anyway, I got so many good lessons from this weekend. I wish you could see the way that Matt and Caleb and this friend group do, Matt's trained all of them. He's like, "If you're with somebody, if you're in a room with somebody, great. You need to ask them questions." And so, people are asking me questions about everyday, question after question after question. Went to sushi dinner, and it was like 500 questions in an hour from all the friends and all the people. But not only was it with me, it's like when went to the homeless people, and I remember there was a lady who was in a wheelchair, and first thing Matt does, he says, "This is my son right here. What advice would you give him?" And then, you ask questions like, "Man, you're out here living on the streets. It's got to be hard, but how do you keep your positive?" And I watched him drill this person, asking five, six, seven, eight, nine questions to this person who ... I wouldn't have thought to ask that person questions. It was so cool to watch them do it, and then watch that person light up and give feedback and inspiration. And I'm watching these amazing people out there who are teaching my kids about God and about Jesus and about hope and about faith and about the problems that got them there, and their dreams about how they want to get out of it. And it was just such a magical experience. And I watched Caleb and Matt and all the friend group there as they went to every single person they met. Like with the waiter or waitress in every restaurant we went to, he was like, "Hey, this is my son here. What advice would you give them?" or like ... Oh, it was so cool to see. I wish I could have captured it all and put it in a bottle for you guys. But anyway, those are some of the lessons. Those were some of the things I saw that were just powerful, that were really, really cool. So anyway, like I said, I'm probably going to go deeper and do some longer form podcasts, kind of going more on some of these principles and stuff, but these are the gifts I want to give you just a top of my head right now, while I'm still thinking about it, that had such a big impact on me, on my kids. So today, as I meet people, my goal is to ask more questions. There's so many cool things you can learn from everybody, especially the servers, the people around you, people that work for you, people you meet on the street, people you meet at a grocery store. I mean, they're asking the clerk checking us out. He was asking questions to the clerk. "How was your day today? What's going on? This is my son. What's the best piece of advice you could possibly give him?" Like to everybody, and I was like, "God, this is so cool." And I start watching again, Matt starts to sing, then I watched Caleb do it, and I watched Caleb's friends do it. I'm looking at this group of kids, and I'm like, "Man, these guys are progressing so fast because they're getting everybody's best tips from the millionaires they meet to the people who are living on the streets and a million people in between." And it's just like, man, how much of a shortcut to success is that than trying to go and learn these lessons on your own? Asking questions. So anyway, it was amazing. I want to thank Matt and Caleb for hosting me and the kids. It was such a great experience. With that said, I'm going to get some work done because I got to go fly out and wrestle here in a day and a half and got a lot to do before then. So with that said, I appreciate you guys. Thanks For listening, and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. 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What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys are doing awesome today. I just got back from Arizona, back from a wrestling practice, driving into the office. So many fun things I want to talk about. So with that said, let's cue the theme song. We come back, we're going to talk about friend groups, changing your identity, and whole bunch of other really cool things.

All right, so this last week has been amazing. Some of guys know I'm training for a wrestling tournament. I actually leave in two days from when I'm recording this to fly out to Florida. It's a three-day tournament day. Day number one is beach wrestling, which, come on now, that sounds insane. I've never done it before. Apparently, they draw a big circle in the sand, and you beat each other up. I'm so excited. So that's number one. Day two, just freestyle, and day three is Greco. Three different styles, and I'm excited.

I last time I wrestled was actually about two years ago, before COVID, and it was a tournament I went to, and it was the first time I actually competed at that point in 15 years. Hadn't competed since I was wrestling in college. And I went to that tournament, was planning on getting into shape, went to one practice, tore my neck out, and then just showed up to the tournament, and did all right. I had fun. And this time around, I was like, "Okay, let's try to prepare a little more." So I'm lighter, about 10 pounds, maybe 15 pounds lighter than I used to be, but I'm still in the same weight class, which is going to be frustrating because the next weight class is another like 12-14 pounds down, and I was like, "I'm not willing to do that." So wrestling guys will be bigger than me this time, but I'm in better shape this time. I had about a month worth of ... well, probably eight practices, but over three or four weeks, and anyway, so excited.

My body's sore, it's bruised, my ears are swollen, but I'm pumped. So anyway, I got to go to wrestling practice, I'm heading in right now, but anyway, last week, we had a chance to fly out to Arizona and do a couple of things. Number one is I spoke at Dean and Tony's Own Your Future Challenge, which is really fun. And then, after that, I brought my two kids out to kind of ... Two of my kids, I've got five kids. I brought my twin boys out there, and partially because I wanted them to see me working, right? Like I want them to see like, "This is what your dad does for a living. Look how cool this is. I have a chance to speak in front of half a million people virtually, right?" So I'm going to show him that.

And then, afterwards, I wanted to help them to, I don't know, just realize how good they have it. So we went out with Matt and Caleb Maddix, and we went out to the streets of Arizona, and we found a place where the homeless people live, and we had a chance to go out there and to feed them. And I'd never done some of that before, it was really cool. We literally drove to Little Caesars and bought a whole bunch of pizzas, to the grocery store, bought popsicles and drinks, and drove out there and parked and just handed out food to people. And we did two days in a row, and it was this really, really cool experience with my kids and everything. It was awesome.

But what I want to talk about in this podcast, because I have of stuff coming like, the last day we recorded a three hour podcast with a whole bunch of young entrepreneurs. I think that'll be an episode here soon and a bunch of other ... A lot of cool stuff. But what I want to talk about was just the power of who you're around.

And it's interesting, I'm writing my fourth book, as you guys know, and I've been trying to focus on like, "How do we create identity shifts? How do we become who we need to be to be able to reach the goals and things we have," right? And there's a lot of things, a lot of different levers you can pull to be able to come who you need to be. And so, there's identities, there's beliefs, there's rules, there's all these different things, and one of the people that I know who is really big in that kind of stuff is Tom Bilyeu. I actually texted him and asked him some questions about his beliefs on it, and then he messaged me back, and we ended up jumping on a call and talked about 45 minutes. Maybe I'll make call up podcast episode too. I don't know. I want to keep giving us all this cool stuff for hanging out with me.

Anyway, it was interesting because, in there, we talked about how do you change someone's identity and beliefs and their rules and their values and things like that. He said, "One of the most powerful things you can do is you take people out of their existing environment. You put them in a peer group of people they respect, and eventually they will become like those people." And he told me that in this interview, that's how he started. He said, before, he was spending 10 hours a day playing video games, all sorts of stuff, and he got this new peer group of people who were having success, who were doing all these things, and he said, "I spent enough time around them, and I eventually wanted their respect, and so I wanted to become like them."

And now, he's Tom Bilyeu, who's crazy. Anyway, he's awesome. But he said, "If I was training your kids," he's like, "I would take them. I would go to a desert island, and instead, if I want them to become an ax murderer, I put them with a whole bunch of ax murderers, and, eventually, they would become like that person. If I wanted them to be an athlete, no matter which athletes, eventually they'll become like that person." And he's talked about like how the peer group and the people you're around, how much that affects identity and beliefs and your rules, your values, and all those kinds of things, so it's interesting.

So anyway, going into this trip to Arizona ... I don't know if you guys are teenager parents, but it's hard to be teenager parent. I love it, but man, it's hard. It's hard to motivate your kids to want to do things and get them excited. I try to figure out different ways to do it all the time, and it's hard as a parent because I don't know. It's funny, like no matter how cool other people think you are, your kids just think you're Dad, right? In fact, I had two or three times last trip people were like, "Yeah, you're so lucky that your dad's Russell." And the kids are like, "Why? He's just this annoying dad that talks about marketing and stuff," you know? But anyway, so it's hard as a parent to like, really ... I don't know. Like I do my best, but it's harder to get them to want to do the things that you want them to do and hope that for them to do, right?

And so, it was cool because we went out to do this thing, we went out with Matt and Caleb. And Caleb was like the epitome of who my kids would want to be, right? He's successful, he speaks on stages, he's got YouTube channels, he's a podcaster, he's fun, he's happy, he's friends with all these successful people. And it was really cool because I brought my kids out there, and Caleb came and picked them up, and they jumped the car together. It's funny because I had spent two days with my kids trying to get them to talk. I asked them questions, they just kind of sit there. "I don't know. I don't know." Like, did they forget how to talk? Do teenagers don't know how to talk? And suddenly it was Caleb, this person who is similar to their age, someone in their peer group, someone who they aspire to be like, and they look up to, within two minutes, Caleb had them talking and sharing their dreams and their visions.

And I'm sitting there in the car, I'm the front seat, they're in the back seat. And in like five minutes I have been spending time with Caleb, I know more about my kids at this point that I've known my entire 15 years of their existence. I'm like, "How in the world?" Like, "Why don't you guys talk to me like that? Why don't you tell me these things?" And it was so cool because the first thing Caleb did is ask them like, "Where do you want to be in 10 years from now?" And it's funny because my kids' default answer was "I don't know."

And so, he asked them again, like, "Where do you want to be in 10 years from now? And 'I don't know' is not an acceptable answer." And it was crazy, within two or three minutes, each of my kids gave him where do they want to be in 10 years, and I was like, "Oh my gosh, that was so cool." And then, immediately, Caleb was not like, "Okay, well good luck." He was like, "Okay, for you to do that, first thing you need is need a mentor." And he looked at Dallin. He was like, "Dallin, what you're trying to do is what I do right now, so I'm going to become your mentor. I'm going to be your coach. I'm going to, blah, blah, blah." He's like, "Bowen, I got a friend who does exactly what you're trying to do, so he's become your mentor." And Caleb called the guy. He's like, "Hey, my friend here, he wants to be a hypnotist, and you're a hypnotist, and so can you come meet him? And can you become his mentor?" And the guy was like, "Sure."

Within an hour, he comes out, and all of a sudden he's teaching my son had him ask people, and also my son's like, "This is the coolest thing ever!" And then, Caleb's helping Dallin talk about speaking and motivation and all these things. I'm sitting here, I was like, "This is insane." For two days, I watched my kids light up. They're on fire, they're excited, they're talking about their dreams, their passions, and it was funny because something Dallin said. He's like, "You know, all those people I hang out," this is not telling me, but I hear him talking to Caleb, "Most of my friends, they don't have many motivations or goals or dreams, they just kind of sit around and play video games all day," and I'm sitting there, I'm like, "Literally, Dallin, that was you three minutes ago."

But he's seeing that because he already is not associating himself with an older peer group. He's associate himself with this peer group of people he's around now. Within a day of being around these people he loves and respects, looks up to. And anyway, it was so cool. It was so powerful. And there's so many lessons from this, but the one that I wanted to kind of think about is either for yourself or if you've got kids. It's like, "Who are they hanging out? Who are you hanging around with?" Right?

I'm sure you've heard it said before that your income will be the average of your five closest friends. And I definitely believe that's true. You'll be as successful as your five closest friends, you'll be as good of an athlete as your five closest friends. Whoever you're around is who you're going to level up to be like, right? It's like Tom Bilyeu said, "If you want to be an ax murderer, or go to an island with a bunch of ax murderers, eventually you'll become like them," right? Or if you want to be an athlete, or you want to be a biohacker or a tech person or a programmer, it's all about who you surround yourself with. And so for you, like that's the first thing I do is to make an introspective ... Is that the word? Like, look at yourself and be like, "Where do I want to go?" And like, "Are the people that I'm around, are they there right now? Or are they trying to get me there? Or are they holding me back?" You got to be completely honest with yourself.

That's the first thing. And if it's not where you want to be, it's like, "Okay, it's time to find a new friend group." Try to find people to be around that are going to pull you up. Doesn't mean have to get rid of your existing friends. You can still be friends them. That's awesome. But the key is like, if you really want to reach something and get there, you got to be around the people who think the way that you want to think, right? That's a big part of it.

And secondly, if you're looking at it from your kid's standpoint, man, I mean, my big "aha" this weekend is just like, no matter how hard I try as a parent, the most valuable thing I can do is probably not me trying to teach them or coach them. I mean, obviously, I got to set a good example and do the things that I believe are right. But I think bigger, so I was like, "Who are the people that they're going to look up to? Who are they going to be around?" Because by default, our friends pick their friends, and sometimes they pick friends that are probably not the right friends for them, right? But if you can help facilitate and find the right friends, how cool is that?

And the one thing that was really cool, I saw Matt Maddix, that's Caleb's dad, who kind of facilitated this whole thing. And it was really cool because he was there with Caleb and Caleb's friends, the one thing he told me in passing, he said, "I want to be able to mentor my son, so a part of that is I have to get to know my son's friends." He's like, "I try to be a mentor to my son's friends because I want to make sure that they're good people too." And so, all Caleb's friends we were hanging out with, they all love Matt, and Matt was coaching them and helping them and ... It was just so cool to see that. I'm like, "Oh, I got to be better at that. I need to become friends with my kids' friends. I got to be mentors them. I got to coach them. I got to help them because they're probably more likely to listen to me than their own parents, right?" Because I don't know why, but that's just how people work.

And number two, it's like if I want to help guide the ship for my kids, helping guide their peer group is a big piece of it as well. So anyway, I got so many good lessons from this weekend. I wish you could see the way that Matt and Caleb and this friend group do, Matt's trained all of them. He's like, "If you're with somebody, if you're in a room with somebody, great. You need to ask them questions." And so, people are asking me questions about everyday, question after question after question. Went to sushi dinner, and it was like 500 questions in an hour from all the friends and all the people.

But not only was it with me, it's like when went to the homeless people, and I remember there was a lady who was in a wheelchair, and first thing Matt does, he says, "This is my son right here. What advice would you give him?" And then, you ask questions like, "Man, you're out here living on the streets. It's got to be hard, but how do you keep your positive?" And I watched him drill this person, asking five, six, seven, eight, nine questions to this person who ... I wouldn't have thought to ask that person questions. It was so cool to watch them do it, and then watch that person light up and give feedback and inspiration. And I'm watching these amazing people out there who are teaching my kids about God and about Jesus and about hope and about faith and about the problems that got them there, and their dreams about how they want to get out of it. And it was just such a magical experience.

And I watched Caleb and Matt and all the friend group there as they went to every single person they met. Like with the waiter or waitress in every restaurant we went to, he was like, "Hey, this is my son here. What advice would you give them?" or like ... Oh, it was so cool to see. I wish I could have captured it all and put it in a bottle for you guys. But anyway, those are some of the lessons. Those were some of the things I saw that were just powerful, that were really, really cool. So anyway, like I said, I'm probably going to go deeper and do some longer form podcasts, kind of going more on some of these principles and stuff, but these are the gifts I want to give you just a top of my head right now, while I'm still thinking about it, that had such a big impact on me, on my kids.

So today, as I meet people, my goal is to ask more questions. There's so many cool things you can learn from everybody, especially the servers, the people around you, people that work for you, people you meet on the street, people you meet at a grocery store. I mean, they're asking the clerk checking us out. He was asking questions to the clerk. "How was your day today? What's going on? This is my son. What's the best piece of advice you could possibly give him?" Like to everybody, and I was like, "God, this is so cool."

And I start watching again, Matt starts to sing, then I watched Caleb do it, and I watched Caleb's friends do it. I'm looking at this group of kids, and I'm like, "Man, these guys are progressing so fast because they're getting everybody's best tips from the millionaires they meet to the people who are living on the streets and a million people in between." And it's just like, man, how much of a shortcut to success is that than trying to go and learn these lessons on your own? Asking questions. So anyway, it was amazing. I want to thank Matt and Caleb for hosting me and the kids. It was such a great experience. With that said, I'm going to get some work done because I got to go fly out and wrestle here in a day and a half and got a lot to do before then. So with that said, I appreciate you guys. Thanks For listening, and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 932 no Same Product: One $2 Million, One $40 Million https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/same-product-one-2-million-one-40-million The strategic thinking between the $2 million earner and the $40 million earner. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets Podcast. It's a Saturday. I just got done working out. While I was working out, I was thinking about something that's crazy. I have two friends that have a very similar product. One of them is very proud because I think they made $2 million from this product, which is amazing. Two Comma Club winner, yes, let's do it. The other friend did $40 million this year, and right now we are trying to acquire his company. And what is the difference? That's what I want to talk about here on today's episode. All right, so I set this up in the intro, but it's crazy. Two people have the exact same product. One, $2 million in sales, which is very amazing. One did $40 million in sales. So what is the difference? Both the products are the same. I'm not going to give you guys too much detail because, come on, you're my funnel hackers. You could go and try to find him and search him out. Look at the funnel, look at all the things. So I don't want to give you the answer, but I do want to give you the question that's hopefully going to get the wheels in your head spinning. What's the difference sometimes between a product that is $2 million and a product that's $4 million? Both are good, but if you're going to be doing the work anyway, you might as well have the one that does $40 million. Did I say four? I meant 40, $40 million. And so it's interesting because if you saw both the pages, both the funnels, both things, you'd be like, "Oh yeah, it's the same product. They're probably doing similar things." In fact, my friend, whose product did $2 million, has been doing this game longer than I have. He understands the business and he understands everything. It's not like he's a rookie mistake. It was just a little different strategy. That's it. The strategy he executed the product on was different. And what's crazy is that the $2 million friend does not know that my $40 million friend is thinking $40 million for the same product. They probably think that they're on par, they're doing similar. But it's crazy, and all it was, was a different strategy. And so that's why, if you think about it, I spend so much time trying to get you guys thinking differently. Not so much, here's the answer, because then it's like, here's the tactic. Go copy it. And I could do that. I could show you guys the funnel that did $40 million. And it's cool and you'd say, "Here's the tactics." Then you'd be like, "Oh, I don't know how to make that work for myself." I remember at one time, this is pre-ClickFunnels, I had a chance to interview my first mentor. His name is Mark Joyner. And in the interview, I was asking some questions and I asked him, I was like, "What advice would you give someone like me?" And this is, again, before ClickFunnels. He said, "The biggest thing is right now, you are very good at the tactics. You're very good at, here's the thing, I'm going to do the thing, and you kind of do it." He said, "What you're not as good at yet is you're not as good at understanding the overarching strategy." And he's like, "The difference between where you are now and where you want to be is you have to become more strategic of a thinker," however he said that. I think he used a big word that I can't remember, but conceptually I understand it. And at first, for a long time, I didn't understand. What does he mean by that? I don't get it. I'm confused. But if I look at these two businesses I'm talking about right now, one of them is very tactical. Boom, did the thing, great video, great sales copy, upsell, downsell, the whole flow is in place. The other person, same things, but his strategy was a little bit different. The way he sold this product was different. And it wasn't a big shift. It wasn't a big change. It was just thinking strategically differently. And so that's what I want to help you guys with today. I talk obviously inside of our community about funnel hacking and looking at things and modeling. But sometimes it's more than that. Sometimes it's more than just looking at someone who's doing it and modeling the process. It's looking at what a lot of people are doing, a lot of people in different industries. One of the mentors I learned from initially a lot is a guy named Jay Abraham. Some of you have heard of Jay. And what he was really, really good at was he was really good at not just looking at his industry and saying, "I'm selling insurance. How are other people selling insurance doing it?" He'd say, "I'm selling insurance. How are people who are building houses doing this? How are people who are dentists doing this?" And he would look at different industries. I remember when I was first learning from him about the same time that Mark Joyner asked me my tactic versus strategy question. I was listening to a lot of Jay Abraham's stuff at the time and I noticed that he'd be like, "Hey, I had a client that was in this industry over here and I didn't know how to help him, but I saw a guy in this other industry doing this, and so I brought that over and modeled it and boom, we blew up the company." And I think, for me, a lot of that started happening. In fact, it's one of the reasons why I feel like I'm a good coach nowadays, because so many people in my market in how to start an online business market, they're really good at starting businesses in the how to make money on the internet market, so that's what they teach. Whereas my passion and my focus for the last decade has been, how do all businesses use this stuff? I respect every business is different. There's tweaks and there's changes, but I look at so many of them. Because of that, because I have a chance to look at businesses all over the place, a lot of times they're applying planning strategies and I'm just like, "Here's what everyone's doing. Here's what's working." It's like, okay, nobody's seeing this, but in this market over here, somebody is doing that thing. Here's the tweak, here's the change, here's the idea. So my friend who has the $40 million business versus my friend with the $2 million business, it was just a strategy change. It was just my friend doing $2 million was doing what everybody else was doing and my friend doing 40 million just saw a different way. He's like, "Hey, everyone else is pricing this way. Everyone else is structuring their funnel this way. What if I made this little tiny tweak? What if I made this little shift?" And it's just a positioning shift. Literally, it's just shifting the positioning in the pricing strategy just a little bit. And from the same amount of effort now, one of them, $2 million, one of them, $40 million. And so I want you to thinking about that, looking, keeping your eyes open. This is the time to start developing your thinking muscles as you're looking at other people are doing. How are people selling things online? How are they selling them offline? What TV ads? What are you seeing when you're listening to Spotify? What do the ads say? What do the landing pages look like? Just keeping your eyes open for a bunch of stuff, even if it's not something that's in your market, because that's what a lot of times these big strategic ahas are going to come from. My friend doing 40 million didn't get that from the market he's selling his product in, because nobody's doing it. I don't know exactly where he got it from or if it just came up off the top of his head, if he saw somebody else doing it, but it was just a tiny, little strategic decision that now you look at 12 months of effort, both of them buying Facebook ads, both from driving traffic, both moving JVs, both moving all this stuff. One equals two, one equals 40. So anyway, again, my goal with this is not to give you the answer and give you the tactic, but to open your mind up to more strategic thinking, looking different, looking bigger, looking at other places, looking around, looking at what other people are doing, not just in the industry. Inside of that is where you start finding some of the big ahas, the big change makers, the big things that shift these things from $2 million to 40 million. So it's pretty cool. Anyway, if and when we purchase this company, I'm sure at that point would share with you guys some of the stuff on how it works and stuff like that. I'm just not at liberty, obviously, to share that because I'm under NDAs and everything. But it's just fascinating. It's really, really cool how a little shift like that can change things. So with that said, my job and my goal right now is thinking the same thing. With ClickFunnels, we're at this big transition point. Something crazy is happening with Funnel Hacking Live. I can't tell you about yet. I was going to say, you guys are going to die when you see it. And so, because of that, I have this window to make some strategic changes and differentiate in pricing and a whole bunch of things like that. So right now I'm spending a lot of time thinking about that, because I could just shift into doing what we're doing, which has worked and it's worked at a high level. But, is there something different? Is there something better? What are other people doing? We literally went and had everybody we could find search for different SaaS platforms and companies in every industry you can dream up. We end up with a Trello board with, I don't know, 200 or 300 different SaaS products. SaaS stands for software as a service, which is what ClickFunnels is. And so we've gone through and seen all those, and now we're signing up. We're looking at the prices, looking at thousands and thousands and thousands of these things. I had a chance to go see Tony Robbins about a month ago, and I was asking him, "Hey, if you were me and you're at this level and at this level, what would you do?" And he said, "Two things." He's like, "Proximity is power. Get around people who have already done what you're trying to do." And that was the first thing. And then number two was modeling. So I've modeled people that have done what I've done, but who are the people that are bigger? So, for me, I'm looking at Salesforce, I'm looking at Shopify. I'm looking at, who are these companies that are worth billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars, in some cases? With Shopify now, it's crazy. What are they doing differently? What am I missing? What are the pieces that I didn't understand that they understand? I think about Shopify, their shopping cart platforms, they're great. I love them. But they're not worth, in my mind, 144 times or whatever worth more than we are. But they are right. And why? Because strategically, these are the things I'm wondering. How do I get proximity to him and people who've worked with him or people that understand? If I want to get that level, I've got to think like the people at that level. And so, how do I expand my thought process? How do I get myself thinking differently? And it's getting around people who think that way. I think a lot of you guys, and this is true for me as well, when I got in this business, I thought differently, and I started getting around these people who had these big visions, I was like, "Oh my gosh." And by being around them, having proximity around them, my vision started getting bigger. I started thinking bigger. I think some of you guys hopefully have felt that when he came into my world and maybe you were just trying to make a quick extra buck on the internet, and all of a sudden you get in this thing and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, I could win Two Comma Club. I could change the world. I could start a movement. I can help people." And hopefully I've expanded your vision and proximities around that. That's why you guys need to be at Funnel Hacking Live. That's why you've got to plug in things we're doing. Because I feel like a lot of people in our community, I’m a few steps ahead, because I've been doing this for two decades now. And so my job is to keep pressing forward. I was talking yesterday to our Two Comma Club X students and I was talking about how I'm planning on reopening my inner circle but I'm also starting a new Mastermind group called Category Kings, which is for people who are between 10 and 100 million. And I said, as soon as I get to a billion dollars, I'm going to be opening another one that's helping people who are at the $100 million level get to the billion, but I'm not there yet. I haven't made $1 billion yet. I'm more than halfway there. So I'm working hard. But as soon as I get that, as soon as I cross the $1 billion mark, then I can have something where I'm going to be like, "Hey, for those of you guys who are at $100 million, let me show you the next tier. Let me show you what we did to get to the $1 billion." And so I'm trying to stay a couple of steps ahead and then taking people and pulling them up to the next level. And so, for me, I'm looking ahead like, who's already got to $1 billion? What did they do differently? What are the changes? What are the tweaks? What is the mindset? How do I strategically think differently? Because, for them, it's easy. Right now it's funny, because for some of you guys, the thought of winning Two Comma Club awards is this huge thing. Whereas right now, any idea that I had, if I was to execute on it, if it hit Two Comma Club within the first 30 days, I would think I failed. But it's just because I know the process, I know the path. It's not confusing or hard or difficult. It's like, "Oh, here's what you do. Boom, boom, boom, a million bucks." And so it's really a simple process at this point. And that's my job, is to try to, first off, inspire you guys, help you understand that, teach you, train you, give you tools and things. But it took me two decades to master all the principles so I can do that really easily. But now it's easy. So everyone wants to get to Two Comma Club in their business. I can help you because I've gone that path. And so, for me, I want to get around the thinkers who have hit $1 billion. That's simple. I was talking to someone who's friends with this dude who has sold seven or eight companies for $1 billion so far. Seven or eight times, this dude, it's like winning Two Comma Club awards as they go. Another Three Comma Club, another Three Comma Club. That dude thinks differently than me. I don't know what he's thinking about, but I want to figure that out. I've got to get around him. I've got to think differently. I've got to be strategic. And so, anyway, these are some of the things I'm working on and hopefully it helps you as well. So find the people that are the tier above you, where you want to go. Get around them. Surround yourself with them. Learn to think like them. I think a lot of times we all have this problem where we think our job is to try to get the people around us to think like us. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, my friends. That is not the goal. My job is not to get the people around me to think like me. My role is to find people I aspire to be like and to learn how to think like them. That's the difference. It's similar, this is not to get religious, but I think it's funny, for me, my beliefs are there's an all-knowing God. So there's a God. He's all-knowing, all-powerful, and what people try to do is they try to bend the will of God. Well, God should believe this, and we should believe this, and tries to shift our thinking. They want God's thinking to match what we believe, it's like, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works, you guys. The goal is not to try to shift God's thinking to match ours. The goal is to figure out what does God think and then we think like him. And I think that sometimes our ego or pride or whatever tries to shift to the other way around. And so it's true in that sense, but it's so true also in this business sense where it's like, find the people who are already what you want to do, you aspire to be like, and find out what they think and think like them. Don't try to bend their will to yours. Because if you go to me and you're broke and you're like, "I'm going to teach Russell how to get Two Comma Club. This is the way it should be." I'm like, "No, you're dumb." You can get smart. That's the cool thing about it. You can learn these things, but you're wrong right now. Because I've done this a million times and it's not that hard. Let me just show you how to it is." And so I think it's humbling ourselves. It's getting ego out of the way. Finding people a level up above us. Strategically syncing with them and then learning like they learn, believe what they believe. Think what they think. And that's the goal. So anyway, there you go. I hope that helps you guys. I love this game. I love this business. It's so much fun. So much development, so much growth, so much learning, but only if you're willing to change. So be open to it. It's worth it. As smart as you are and I am and we all are, there's always somebody who knows more than us and it's cool and exciting to be open to that and to go search for it and learn from them and try to get to the next level. So with that said, have an amazing weekend, you guys. Wherever you are in the world, I appreciate you. I see you. I know you're working hard. You're trying to create your dreams. You're trying to create your dream lifestyle. You're trying to help other people. I see you. I respect you. Grateful for you guys doing that. And if you don’t have your tickets yet for Funnel Hacking Live, what are you waiting for? The party is starting. I think we're at $2 million, $3 million. I don't know. It's an expensive event to put on. So I'm putting out on huge party for you guys. I'm spending millions of dollars to entertain and educate you. You should just be there. Don't miss it. Go to funnelhackinglive.com and get your tickets now. With that said, I appreciate you all and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 May 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Same Product: One $2 Million, One $40 Million full 414 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The strategic thinking between the $2 million earner and the $40 million earner. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome to... The strategic thinking between the $2 million earner and the $40 million earner. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets Podcast. It's a Saturday. I just got done working out. While I was working out, I was thinking about something that's crazy. I have two friends that have a very similar product. One of them is very proud because I think they made $2 million from this product, which is amazing. Two Comma Club winner, yes, let's do it. The other friend did $40 million this year, and right now we are trying to acquire his company. And what is the difference? That's what I want to talk about here on today's episode. All right, so I set this up in the intro, but it's crazy. Two people have the exact same product. One, $2 million in sales, which is very amazing. One did $40 million in sales. So what is the difference? Both the products are the same. I'm not going to give you guys too much detail because, come on, you're my funnel hackers. You could go and try to find him and search him out. Look at the funnel, look at all the things. So I don't want to give you the answer, but I do want to give you the question that's hopefully going to get the wheels in your head spinning. What's the difference sometimes between a product that is $2 million and a product that's $4 million? Both are good, but if you're going to be doing the work anyway, you might as well have the one that does $40 million. Did I say four? I meant 40, $40 million. And so it's interesting because if you saw both the pages, both the funnels, both things, you'd be like, "Oh yeah, it's the same product. They're probably doing similar things." In fact, my friend, whose product did $2 million, has been doing this game longer than I have. He understands the business and he understands everything. It's not like he's a rookie mistake. It was just a little different strategy. That's it. The strategy he executed the product on was different. And what's crazy is that the $2 million friend does not know that my $40 million friend is thinking $40 million for the same product. They probably think that they're on par, they're doing similar. But it's crazy, and all it was, was a different strategy. And so that's why, if you think about it, I spend so much time trying to get you guys thinking differently. Not so much, here's the answer, because then it's like, here's the tactic. Go copy it. And I could do that. I could show you guys the funnel that did $40 million. And it's cool and you'd say, "Here's the tactics." Then you'd be like, "Oh, I don't know how to make that work for myself." I remember at one time, this is pre-ClickFunnels, I had a chance to interview my first mentor. His name is Mark Joyner. And in the interview, I was asking some questions and I asked him, I was like, "What advice would you give someone like me?" And this is, again, before ClickFunnels. He said, "The biggest thing is right now, you are very good at the tactics. You're very good at, here's the thing, I'm going to do the thing, and you kind of do it." He said, "What you're not as good at yet is you're not as good at understanding the overarching strategy." And he's like, "The difference between where you are now and where you want to be is you have to become more strategic of a thinker," however he said that. I think he used a big word that I can't remember, but conceptually I understand it. And at first, for a long time, I didn't understand. What does he mean by that? I don't get it. I'm confused. But if I look at these two businesses I'm talking about right now, one of them is very tactical. Boom, did the thing, great video, great sales copy, upsell, downsell, the whole flow is in place. The other person, same things, but his strategy was a little bit different. The way he sold this product was different. And it wasn't a big shift. It wasn't a big change. It was just thinking strategically differently. And so that's what I want to help you guys with today. I talk obviously inside of our community about funnel hacking and looking at things and modeling. But sometimes it's more than that. Sometimes it's more than just looking at someone who's doing it and modeling the process. It's looking at what a lot of people are doing, a lot of people in different industries. One of the mentors I learned from initially a lot is a guy named Jay Abraham. Some of you have heard of Jay. And what he was really, really good at was he was really good at not just looking at his industry and saying, "I'm selling insurance. How are other people selling insurance doing it?" He'd say, "I'm selling insurance. How are people who are building houses doing this? How are people who are dentists doing this?" And he would look at different industries. I remember when I was first learning from him about the same time that Mark Joyner asked me my tactic versus strategy question. I was listening to a lot of Jay Abraham's stuff at the time and I noticed that he'd be like, "Hey, I had a client that was in this industry over here and I didn't know how to help him, but I saw a guy in this other industry doing this, and so I brought that over and modeled it and boom, we blew up the company." And I think, for me, a lot of that started happening. In fact, it's one of the reasons why I feel like I'm a good coach nowadays, because so many people in my market in how to start an online business market, they're really good at starting businesses in the how to make money on the internet market, so that's what they teach. Whereas my passion and my focus for the last decade has been, how do all businesses use this stuff? I respect every business is different. There's tweaks and there's changes, but I look at so many of them. Because of that, because I have a chance to look at businesses all over the place, a lot of times they're applying planning strategies and I'm just like, "Here's what everyone's doing. Here's what's working." It's like, okay, nobody's seeing this, but in this market over here, somebody is doing that thing. Here's the tweak, here's the change, here's the idea. So my friend who has the $40 million business versus my friend with the $2 million business, it was just a strategy change. It was just my friend doing $2 million was doing what everybody else was doing and my friend doing 40 million just saw a different way. He's like, "Hey, everyone else is pricing this way. Everyone else is structuring their funnel this way. What if I made this little tiny tweak? What if I made this little shift?" And it's just a positioning shift. Literally, it's just shifting the positioning in the pricing strategy just a little bit. And from the same amount of effort now, one of them, $2 million, one of them, $40 million. And so I want you to thinking about that, looking, keeping your eyes open. This is the time to start developing your thinking muscles as you're looking at other people are doing. How are people selling things online? How are they selling them offline? What TV ads? What are you seeing when you're listening to Spotify? What do the ads say? What do the landing pages look like? Just keeping your eyes open for a bunch of stuff, even if it's not something that's in your market, because that's what a lot of times these big strategic ahas are going to come from. My friend doing 40 million didn't get that from the market he's selling his product in, because nobody's doing it. I don't know exactly where he got it from or if it just came up off the top of his head, if he saw somebody else doing it, but it was just a tiny, little strategic decision that now you look at 12 months of effort, both of them buying Facebook ads, both from driving traffic, both moving JVs, both moving all this stuff. One equals two, one equals 40. So anyway, again, my goal with this is not to give you the answer and give you the tactic, but to open your mind up to more strategic thinking, looking different, looking bigger, looking at other places, looking around, looking at what other people are doing, not just in the industry. Inside of that is where you start finding some of the big ahas, the big change makers, the big things that shift these things from $2 million to 40 million. So it's pretty cool. Anyway, if and when we purchase this company, I'm sure at that point would share with you guys some of the stuff on how it works and stuff like that. I'm just not at liberty, obviously, to share that because I'm under NDAs and everything. But it's just fascinating. It's really, really cool how a little shift like that can change things. So with that said, my job and my goal right now is thinking the same thing. With ClickFunnels, we're at this big transition point. Something crazy is happening with Funnel Hacking Live. I can't tell you about yet. I was going to say, you guys are going to die when you see it. And so, because of that, I have this window to make some strategic changes and differentiate in pricing and a whole bunch of things like that. So right now I'm spending a lot of time thinking about that, because I could just shift into doing what we're doing, which has worked and it's worked at a high level. But, is there something different? Is there something better? What are other people doing? We literally went and had everybody we could find search for different SaaS platforms and companies in every industry you can dream up. We end up with a Trello board with, I don't know, 200 or 300 different SaaS products. SaaS stands for software as a service, which is what ClickFunnels is. And so we've gone through and seen all those, and now we're signing up. We're looking at the prices, looking at thousands and thousands and thousands of these things. I had a chance to go see Tony Robbins about a month ago, and I was asking him, "Hey, if you were me and you're at this level and at this level, what would you do?" And he said, "Two things." He's like, "Proximity is power. Get around people who have already done what you're trying to do." And that was the first thing. And then number two was modeling. So I've modeled people that have done what I've done, but who are the people that are bigger? So, for me, I'm looking at Salesforce, I'm looking at Shopify. I'm looking at, who are these companies that are worth billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars, in some cases? With Shopify now, it's crazy. What are they doing differently? What am I missing? What are the pieces that I didn't understand that they understand? I think about Shopify, their shopping cart platforms, they're great. I love them. But they're not worth, in my mind, 144 times or whatever worth more than we are. But they are right. And why? Because strategically, these are the things I'm wondering. How do I get proximity to him and people who've worked with him or people that understand? If I want to get that level, I've got to think like the people at that level. And so, how do I expand my thought process? How do I get myself thinking differently? And it's getting around people who think that way. I think a lot of you guys, and this is true for me as well, when I got in this business, I thought differently, and I started getting around these people who had these big visions, I was like, "Oh my gosh." And by being around them, having proximity around them, my vision started getting bigger. I started thinking bigger. I think some of you guys hopefully have felt that when he came into my world and maybe you were just trying to make a quick extra buck on the internet, and all of a sudden you get in this thing and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, I could win Two Comma Club. I could change the world. I could start a movement. I can help people." And hopefully I've expanded your vision and proximities around that. That's why you guys need to be at Funnel Hacking Live. That's why you've got to plug in things we're doing. Because I feel like a lot of people in our community, I’m a few steps ahead, because I've been doing this for two decades now. And so my job is to keep pressing forward. I was talking yesterday to our Two Comma Club X students and I was talking about how I'm planning on reopening my inner circle but I'm also starting a new Mastermind group called Category Kings, which is for people who are between 10 and 100 million. And I said, as soon as I get to a billion dollars, I'm going to be opening another one that's helping people who are at the $100 million level get to the billion, but I'm not there yet. I haven't made $1 billion yet. I'm more than halfway there. So I'm working hard. But as soon as I get that, as soon as I cross the $1 billion mark, then I can have something where I'm going to be like, "Hey, for those of you guys who are at $100 million, let me show you the next tier. Let me show you what we did to get to the $1 billion." And so I'm trying to stay a couple of steps ahead and then taking people and pulling them up to the next level. And so, for me, I'm looking ahead like, who's already got to $1 billion? What did they do differently? What are the changes? What are the tweaks? What is the mindset? How do I strategically think differently? Because, for them, it's easy. Right now it's funny, because for some of you guys, the thought of winning Two Comma Club awards is this huge thing. Whereas right now, any idea that I had, if I was to execute on it, if it hit Two Comma Club within the first 30 days, I would think I failed. But it's just because I know the process, I know the path. It's not confusing or hard or difficult. It's like, "Oh, here's what you do. Boom, boom, boom, a million bucks." And so it's really a simple process at this point. And that's my job, is to try to, first off, inspire you guys, help you understand that, teach you, train you, give you tools and things. But it took me two decades to master all the principles so I can do that really easily. But now it's easy. So everyone wants to get to Two Comma Club in their business. I can help you because I've gone that path. And so, for me, I want to get around the thinkers who have hit $1 billion. That's simple. I was talking to someone who's friends with this dude who has sold seven or eight companies for $1 billion so far. Seven or eight times, this dude, it's like winning Two Comma Club awards as they go. Another Three Comma Club, another Three Comma Club. That dude thinks differently than me. I don't know what he's thinking about, but I want to figure that out. I've got to get around him. I've got to think differently. I've got to be strategic. And so, anyway, these are some of the things I'm working on and hopefully it helps you as well. So find the people that are the tier above you, where you want to go. Get around them. Surround yourself with them. Learn to think like them. I think a lot of times we all have this problem where we think our job is to try to get the people around us to think like us. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, my friends. That is not the goal. My job is not to get the people around me to think like me. My role is to find people I aspire to be like and to learn how to think like them. That's the difference. It's similar, this is not to get religious, but I think it's funny, for me, my beliefs are there's an all-knowing God. So there's a God. He's all-knowing, all-powerful, and what people try to do is they try to bend the will of God. Well, God should believe this, and we should believe this, and tries to shift our thinking. They want God's thinking to match what we believe, it's like, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works, you guys. The goal is not to try to shift God's thinking to match ours. The goal is to figure out what does God think and then we think like him. And I think that sometimes our ego or pride or whatever tries to shift to the other way around. And so it's true in that sense, but it's so true also in this business sense where it's like, find the people who are already what you want to do, you aspire to be like, and find out what they think and think like them. Don't try to bend their will to yours. Because if you go to me and you're broke and you're like, "I'm going to teach Russell how to get Two Comma Club. This is the way it should be." I'm like, "No, you're dumb." You can get smart. That's the cool thing about it. You can learn these things, but you're wrong right now. Because I've done this a million times and it's not that hard. Let me just show you how to it is." And so I think it's humbling ourselves. It's getting ego out of the way. Finding people a level up above us. Strategically syncing with them and then learning like they learn, believe what they believe. Think what they think. And that's the goal. So anyway, there you go. I hope that helps you guys. I love this game. I love this business. It's so much fun. So much development, so much growth, so much learning, but only if you're willing to change. So be open to it. It's worth it. As smart as you are and I am and we all are, there's always somebody who knows more than us and it's cool and exciting to be open to that and to go search for it and learn from them and try to get to the next level. So with that said, have an amazing weekend, you guys. Wherever you are in the world, I appreciate you. I see you. I know you're working hard. You're trying to create your dreams. You're trying to create your dream lifestyle. You're trying to help other people. I see you. I respect you. Grateful for you guys doing that. And if you don’t have your tickets yet for Funnel Hacking Live, what are you waiting for? The party is starting. I think we're at $2 million, $3 million. I don't know. It's an expensive event to put on. So I'm putting out on huge party for you guys. I'm spending millions of dollars to entertain and educate you. You should just be there. Don't miss it. Go to funnelhackinglive.com and get your tickets now. With that said, I appreciate you all and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The strategic thinking between the $2 million earner and the $40 million earner.

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Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets Podcast. It's a Saturday. I just got done working out. While I was working out, I was thinking about something that's crazy. I have two friends that have a very similar product. One of them is very proud because I think they made $2 million from this product, which is amazing. Two Comma Club winner, yes, let's do it. The other friend did $40 million this year, and right now we are trying to acquire his company. And what is the difference? That's what I want to talk about here on today's episode. All right, so I set this up in the intro, but it's crazy. Two people have the exact same product. One, $2 million in sales, which is very amazing. One did $40 million in sales. So what is the difference? Both the products are the same. I'm not going to give you guys too much detail because, come on, you're my funnel hackers. You could go and try to find him and search him out. Look at the funnel, look at all the things.

So I don't want to give you the answer, but I do want to give you the question that's hopefully going to get the wheels in your head spinning. What's the difference sometimes between a product that is $2 million and a product that's $4 million? Both are good, but if you're going to be doing the work anyway, you might as well have the one that does $40 million. Did I say four? I meant 40, $40 million. And so it's interesting because if you saw both the pages, both the funnels, both things, you'd be like, "Oh yeah, it's the same product. They're probably doing similar things." In fact, my friend, whose product did $2 million, has been doing this game longer than I have. He understands the business and he understands everything. It's not like he's a rookie mistake. It was just a little different strategy. That's it. The strategy he executed the product on was different.

And what's crazy is that the $2 million friend does not know that my $40 million friend is thinking $40 million for the same product. They probably think that they're on par, they're doing similar. But it's crazy, and all it was, was a different strategy. And so that's why, if you think about it, I spend so much time trying to get you guys thinking differently. Not so much, here's the answer, because then it's like, here's the tactic. Go copy it. And I could do that. I could show you guys the funnel that did $40 million. And it's cool and you'd say, "Here's the tactics." Then you'd be like, "Oh, I don't know how to make that work for myself." I remember at one time, this is pre-ClickFunnels, I had a chance to interview my first mentor. His name is Mark Joyner. And in the interview, I was asking some questions and I asked him, I was like, "What advice would you give someone like me?" And this is, again, before ClickFunnels.

He said, "The biggest thing is right now, you are very good at the tactics. You're very good at, here's the thing, I'm going to do the thing, and you kind of do it." He said, "What you're not as good at yet is you're not as good at understanding the overarching strategy." And he's like, "The difference between where you are now and where you want to be is you have to become more strategic of a thinker," however he said that. I think he used a big word that I can't remember, but conceptually I understand it. And at first, for a long time, I didn't understand. What does he mean by that? I don't get it. I'm confused. But if I look at these two businesses I'm talking about right now, one of them is very tactical. Boom, did the thing, great video, great sales copy, upsell, downsell, the whole flow is in place. The other person, same things, but his strategy was a little bit different. The way he sold this product was different. And it wasn't a big shift. It wasn't a big change. It was just thinking strategically differently.

And so that's what I want to help you guys with today. I talk obviously inside of our community about funnel hacking and looking at things and modeling. But sometimes it's more than that. Sometimes it's more than just looking at someone who's doing it and modeling the process. It's looking at what a lot of people are doing, a lot of people in different industries. One of the mentors I learned from initially a lot is a guy named Jay Abraham. Some of you have heard of Jay. And what he was really, really good at was he was really good at not just looking at his industry and saying, "I'm selling insurance. How are other people selling insurance doing it?" He'd say, "I'm selling insurance. How are people who are building houses doing this? How are people who are dentists doing this?" And he would look at different industries.

I remember when I was first learning from him about the same time that Mark Joyner asked me my tactic versus strategy question. I was listening to a lot of Jay Abraham's stuff at the time and I noticed that he'd be like, "Hey, I had a client that was in this industry over here and I didn't know how to help him, but I saw a guy in this other industry doing this, and so I brought that over and modeled it and boom, we blew up the company." And I think, for me, a lot of that started happening. In fact, it's one of the reasons why I feel like I'm a good coach nowadays, because so many people in my market in how to start an online business market, they're really good at starting businesses in the how to make money on the internet market, so that's what they teach. Whereas my passion and my focus for the last decade has been, how do all businesses use this stuff?

I respect every business is different. There's tweaks and there's changes, but I look at so many of them. Because of that, because I have a chance to look at businesses all over the place, a lot of times they're applying planning strategies and I'm just like, "Here's what everyone's doing. Here's what's working." It's like, okay, nobody's seeing this, but in this market over here, somebody is doing that thing. Here's the tweak, here's the change, here's the idea. So my friend who has the $40 million business versus my friend with the $2 million business, it was just a strategy change. It was just my friend doing $2 million was doing what everybody else was doing and my friend doing 40 million just saw a different way. He's like, "Hey, everyone else is pricing this way. Everyone else is structuring their funnel this way. What if I made this little tiny tweak? What if I made this little shift?"

And it's just a positioning shift. Literally, it's just shifting the positioning in the pricing strategy just a little bit. And from the same amount of effort now, one of them, $2 million, one of them, $40 million. And so I want you to thinking about that, looking, keeping your eyes open. This is the time to start developing your thinking muscles as you're looking at other people are doing. How are people selling things online? How are they selling them offline? What TV ads? What are you seeing when you're listening to Spotify? What do the ads say? What do the landing pages look like? Just keeping your eyes open for a bunch of stuff, even if it's not something that's in your market, because that's what a lot of times these big strategic ahas are going to come from.

My friend doing 40 million didn't get that from the market he's selling his product in, because nobody's doing it. I don't know exactly where he got it from or if it just came up off the top of his head, if he saw somebody else doing it, but it was just a tiny, little strategic decision that now you look at 12 months of effort, both of them buying Facebook ads, both from driving traffic, both moving JVs, both moving all this stuff. One equals two, one equals 40. So anyway, again, my goal with this is not to give you the answer and give you the tactic, but to open your mind up to more strategic thinking, looking different, looking bigger, looking at other places, looking around, looking at what other people are doing, not just in the industry. Inside of that is where you start finding some of the big ahas, the big change makers, the big things that shift these things from $2 million to 40 million.

So it's pretty cool. Anyway, if and when we purchase this company, I'm sure at that point would share with you guys some of the stuff on how it works and stuff like that. I'm just not at liberty, obviously, to share that because I'm under NDAs and everything. But it's just fascinating. It's really, really cool how a little shift like that can change things. So with that said, my job and my goal right now is thinking the same thing. With ClickFunnels, we're at this big transition point. Something crazy is happening with Funnel Hacking Live. I can't tell you about yet. I was going to say, you guys are going to die when you see it. And so, because of that, I have this window to make some strategic changes and differentiate in pricing and a whole bunch of things like that.

So right now I'm spending a lot of time thinking about that, because I could just shift into doing what we're doing, which has worked and it's worked at a high level. But, is there something different? Is there something better? What are other people doing? We literally went and had everybody we could find search for different SaaS platforms and companies in every industry you can dream up. We end up with a Trello board with, I don't know, 200 or 300 different SaaS products. SaaS stands for software as a service, which is what ClickFunnels is. And so we've gone through and seen all those, and now we're signing up. We're looking at the prices, looking at thousands and thousands and thousands of these things. I had a chance to go see Tony Robbins about a month ago, and I was asking him, "Hey, if you were me and you're at this level and at this level, what would you do?"

And he said, "Two things." He's like, "Proximity is power. Get around people who have already done what you're trying to do." And that was the first thing. And then number two was modeling. So I've modeled people that have done what I've done, but who are the people that are bigger? So, for me, I'm looking at Salesforce, I'm looking at Shopify. I'm looking at, who are these companies that are worth billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars, in some cases? With Shopify now, it's crazy. What are they doing differently? What am I missing? What are the pieces that I didn't understand that they understand? I think about Shopify, their shopping cart platforms, they're great. I love them. But they're not worth, in my mind, 144 times or whatever worth more than we are. But they are right. And why? Because strategically, these are the things I'm wondering.

How do I get proximity to him and people who've worked with him or people that understand? If I want to get that level, I've got to think like the people at that level. And so, how do I expand my thought process? How do I get myself thinking differently? And it's getting around people who think that way. I think a lot of you guys, and this is true for me as well, when I got in this business, I thought differently, and I started getting around these people who had these big visions, I was like, "Oh my gosh." And by being around them, having proximity around them, my vision started getting bigger. I started thinking bigger. I think some of you guys hopefully have felt that when he came into my world and maybe you were just trying to make a quick extra buck on the internet, and all of a sudden you get in this thing and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, I could win Two Comma Club. I could change the world. I could start a movement. I can help people."

And hopefully I've expanded your vision and proximities around that. That's why you guys need to be at Funnel Hacking Live. That's why you've got to plug in things we're doing. Because I feel like a lot of people in our community, I’m a few steps ahead, because I've been doing this for two decades now. And so my job is to keep pressing forward. I was talking yesterday to our Two Comma Club X students and I was talking about how I'm planning on reopening my inner circle but I'm also starting a new Mastermind group called Category Kings, which is for people who are between 10 and 100 million. And I said, as soon as I get to a billion dollars, I'm going to be opening another one that's helping people who are at the $100 million level get to the billion, but I'm not there yet. I haven't made $1 billion yet. I'm more than halfway there. So I'm working hard.

But as soon as I get that, as soon as I cross the $1 billion mark, then I can have something where I'm going to be like, "Hey, for those of you guys who are at $100 million, let me show you the next tier. Let me show you what we did to get to the $1 billion." And so I'm trying to stay a couple of steps ahead and then taking people and pulling them up to the next level. And so, for me, I'm looking ahead like, who's already got to $1 billion? What did they do differently? What are the changes? What are the tweaks? What is the mindset? How do I strategically think differently? Because, for them, it's easy. Right now it's funny, because for some of you guys, the thought of winning Two Comma Club awards is this huge thing. Whereas right now, any idea that I had, if I was to execute on it, if it hit Two Comma Club within the first 30 days, I would think I failed.

But it's just because I know the process, I know the path. It's not confusing or hard or difficult. It's like, "Oh, here's what you do. Boom, boom, boom, a million bucks." And so it's really a simple process at this point. And that's my job, is to try to, first off, inspire you guys, help you understand that, teach you, train you, give you tools and things. But it took me two decades to master all the principles so I can do that really easily. But now it's easy. So everyone wants to get to Two Comma Club in their business. I can help you because I've gone that path. And so, for me, I want to get around the thinkers who have hit $1 billion. That's simple. I was talking to someone who's friends with this dude who has sold seven or eight companies for $1 billion so far. Seven or eight times, this dude, it's like winning Two Comma Club awards as they go. Another Three Comma Club, another Three Comma Club.

That dude thinks differently than me. I don't know what he's thinking about, but I want to figure that out. I've got to get around him. I've got to think differently. I've got to be strategic. And so, anyway, these are some of the things I'm working on and hopefully it helps you as well. So find the people that are the tier above you, where you want to go. Get around them. Surround yourself with them. Learn to think like them. I think a lot of times we all have this problem where we think our job is to try to get the people around us to think like us. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, my friends. That is not the goal. My job is not to get the people around me to think like me. My role is to find people I aspire to be like and to learn how to think like them. That's the difference. It's similar, this is not to get religious, but I think it's funny, for me, my beliefs are there's an all-knowing God.

So there's a God. He's all-knowing, all-powerful, and what people try to do is they try to bend the will of God. Well, God should believe this, and we should believe this, and tries to shift our thinking. They want God's thinking to match what we believe, it's like, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works, you guys. The goal is not to try to shift God's thinking to match ours. The goal is to figure out what does God think and then we think like him. And I think that sometimes our ego or pride or whatever tries to shift to the other way around. And so it's true in that sense, but it's so true also in this business sense where it's like, find the people who are already what you want to do, you aspire to be like, and find out what they think and think like them. Don't try to bend their will to yours. Because if you go to me and you're broke and you're like, "I'm going to teach Russell how to get Two Comma Club. This is the way it should be."

I'm like, "No, you're dumb." You can get smart. That's the cool thing about it. You can learn these things, but you're wrong right now. Because I've done this a million times and it's not that hard. Let me just show you how to it is." And so I think it's humbling ourselves. It's getting ego out of the way. Finding people a level up above us. Strategically syncing with them and then learning like they learn, believe what they believe. Think what they think. And that's the goal. So anyway, there you go. I hope that helps you guys. I love this game. I love this business. It's so much fun. So much development, so much growth, so much learning, but only if you're willing to change. So be open to it. It's worth it. As smart as you are and I am and we all are, there's always somebody who knows more than us and it's cool and exciting to be open to that and to go search for it and learn from them and try to get to the next level.

So with that said, have an amazing weekend, you guys. Wherever you are in the world, I appreciate you. I see you. I know you're working hard. You're trying to create your dreams. You're trying to create your dream lifestyle. You're trying to help other people. I see you. I respect you. Grateful for you guys doing that. And if you don’t have your tickets yet for Funnel Hacking Live, what are you waiting for? The party is starting. I think we're at $2 million, $3 million. I don't know. It's an expensive event to put on. So I'm putting out on huge party for you guys. I'm spending millions of dollars to entertain and educate you. You should just be there. Don't miss it. Go to funnelhackinglive.com and get your tickets now. With that said, I appreciate you all and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 2454 no My PRIVATE Interview with Tony Robbins… https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-private-interview-with-tony-robbins Want to be a fly on the wall as I talk to Tony today!? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com And don’t forget to check out takethechallenge.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets Podcast. Oh, do I have a treat for you today. This week I had a chance to interview Tony Robbins, because a couple of reasons, number one, we are doing the Own Your Future Challenge that's coming up. Depending when you're listening to this, it's probably happening right now. And you can actually go sign up for that for free at takethechallenge.com. In fact, I would recommend pausing this, go sign up just so you've got it. But takethechallenge.com, a challenge about how to own your future and how to do a bunch of really cool things. And so, because the challenge is happening, and Tony and Dean are doing this with a whole bunch of other amazing people, I had a really rare opportunity to interview Tony. They said, "Hey, do you want to interview Tony for your podcast and your YouTube channel, all these things?" And of course, my answer was, "Yes." But I told him, I was like, "I don't really want to do an interview like everybody else is doing an interview. I want to do the interview based on things that I'm actually working on right now." So right now, as some of you know, I'm writing a book. My first personal development book ever. That's all I'm telling you. But a lot of what is in there, things I learned from Tony, and just principles and things I've learned from him a decade and a half ago that shifted my future and changed my destiny. And so, I said, "I want to ask you some questions that are a little different than everybody else." And he said, "Sure." I had a chance to ask him a whole bunch of really cool questions. I had a chance to ask him the difference between the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. How can people go achieve everything, but be miserable? How can people have nothing, but they're happy? How do these things work together? These are ying and the yang, how do they work together? And I was able to ask him directly. So I asked him about the six human needs, which is one of my favorite topics of all time I think and had the biggest impact on me from Tony, and then how he gets from growth to contribution. And, oh... Anyway, it was amazing. It was so much fun. So, you guys are lucky because you're going to have a chance to listen to it right now. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to give you the link in, go to takethechallenge.com, go sign up for the free challenge that way you'll have a chance to hear from Dean, from Tony, from me, from Jenna, from Sheldon, from Jamie Kern Lima, from Brendan Bouchard, from a whole bunch of just amazing people. It is a completely free challenge, so go sign up for it at takethechallenge.com and then come back and listen to my interview with Tony, and hope you enjoy it, it's going to be a lot of fun. And with that said we can cue the theme song. When I come back, you have a chance to hear my interview with Tony Robbins, about all the cool things I wanted to ask him. Oh, how cool is that? All right. We'll see you guys here in a minute. What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. I'm here today with the one and only Tony Robbins. And we're going to be talking about a whole bunch of really cool things right now. There's a challenge coming up right out in the next... actually, it's happening right now as this is being recorded, and a lot of you guys watching, called the Own Your Future Challenge. And we'll talk more about that here in a minute, but before we do, I have this really unique and exciting opportunity to ask Tony a couple of questions. And so, I hope you guys enjoy some of the questions like I'm going to be enjoying this because he's someone I've been studying and learning from now for, man, probably 20-something years, had a chance to know you now for probably 13, 14 years, which is really, really cool. And it's not often I get to ask you questions. So, now I got you for 20 or 30 minutes. I'm excited to do that. So, how are you feeling today, Tony? Tony Robbins: I'm feeling awesome, buddy. Russell: Well, obviously the challenge we're going to be talking about more towards the end is about owning your future. This is this thing that we're trying to go towards. And especially right now, after all of the season we've all been through, where there's so much chaos and change and everything. Now it's like, okay, let's get background and let's look towards the future. But I wanted to kind of start off probably differently than some people have asked you, just because I'm in the middle of working on a book right now. And in the book, I'm trying to figure out this thing that I heard originally from you. You talked about this concept of the science of achievement versus the art of fulfillment. And this is something in my life, especially as I'm trying to own my future, and try to go this direction, I've found multiple times where I've achieved something in my life, and then expecting to be super fulfilled and excited, and having almost the opposite effect happen. I'd love to hear some of your thoughts about just those two, the yin yang between achievement and fulfillment and maybe why they're not exactly the same, and how we can have more success feeling fulfilled when we do have success. Tony: Well, I was trying years ago, I was trying to figure out, how do you really define an extraordinary life? Not just success. Success for most people, I think means getting what they want. I think fulfillment is giving what you're made for. And I think that the challenge for most people is, as we're growing up and we're developing our skill and our ability to start to master our own world, there's at least in Western culture, there's a huge push for us all to be achievers. And most of us have been so rewarded for that. I'm here on your podcast because of it. You're doing podcasts because of it. We both have managed to pull that off. But as you've discovered, as you're now, what, 41 did you say? Russell: Yup, 41. Tony: You're 41 years old. There's a stage of your life where you start to wake up and go, "It's not enough to just be successful. It's not enough to just be financially free." You know, I know that sounds crazy to someone who's not there yet, but you don't have to wait until you're financially free to have a sense of fulfillment. So, what I propose to people is that life requires two master skills. Skill number one is the science of achievement, which means the ability to take whatever you envision and make it real. Turn the invisible into the visible. To me, that's a spiritual process. But how do I go from, I have this idea, to living that idea or delivering that idea to millions of people around the world? To me, that's science. And the reason I say that is science is because it's duplicatable. If I want to make more money, I can go, as I did, interview 100 of the smartest financial people in the world and find out exactly what they did. And they all did different things, but there are certain universal patterns that I did in MONEY Master the Game, and Unshakeable, and so forth. And when you understand them, if you sow the same seeds, you reap the same rewards. So, in the financial world, it's a science. That's achievement. If you're looking at your health, it's a certain amount of science, meaning we're all biochemically unique, right Russell? But everybody has certain fundamentals, and if you violate them, you're going to have dis-ease or low energy. If you align with them, you're going to have an abundance of vitality, energy, and strength. So, that's science. But fulfillment is an art. That's why I said, there's two skills. The science of achievement, which you can duplicate and learn, and I've taught for decades, and you have as well, you did an extraordinary job of it. But then, the art of fulfillment. And the reason I call it the art is because it isn't a science, because it's different for every single person. That's why most people miss out it. First they miss out on it because they're so focused on achievement, and they think that's going to fulfill them. But I ask your audience, even yourself, think of something. You and I have talked about this before. Think of something you've achieved that you worked your tail off to achieve and then you achieved it, and then your brain said, "Is this all there is?" Or worse, how about something you achieve and you really were happy about it, but how long did you stay happy? You made this incredible achievement, took you years to get to. Were you happy for the next five years because of it? Russell: No. Tony: The next year? The next six months? The next three months? The next two weeks? Russell: The next morning you wake up? Tony: Most people are somewhere between three hours and three weeks maximum before they go right back to where they were because the brain adjusts. It adjusts because we're not made to sit around and just be fulfilled. We're made to grow. And so, the great part of achievement is it causes you to strive for growth. The problem is, people just keeping the hamster on the wheel, trying to achieve more, and they aren't making sure along the way they're fulfilled. So, I believe these are both critically important. If you ask me honestly which one's more important, it's fulfillment because success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure. I mean, I interviewed 50 self-made billionaires, the smartest financial investors in the history of the world for MONEY Master the Game. I did it over two and a half years, and about maybe 12, 13 of them are really good friends now. And I can tell you, out of that group of 50, and this is zero judgment, maybe four of them are happy people. Now, you go, "Oh, see? Money makes you unhappy." No, money just magnifies who you are. If you're mean, you have more to be mean with. If you're giving, you have more to give with. It doesn't change anything. But these people, they're not bad people. They're brilliant people, but they're so brilliant in one area and they miss the fulfillment side. To see one of these men arguing with his wife and kid, because they bought some jewelry that I think was around $2,500 and the guy is a multi, multi billionaire. He couldn't spend all his money in all these years, and yet he's got conflict in his own family because of his mindset. There are some people, for example Paul Tudor was with me the other day and he was talking about a neighbor of his, I won't mention a name, but the guy's in a $40 million home, he goes over with his young son, this was a few years ago Paul did this, and the guy has his own grass tennis court. And Paul said, "I've never seen that." Paul's a billionaire, one of the smartest financial people in the world. And bottom line, he goes, "Your son opened one of the can of balls." The son I think was like five or six or seven at the time. And the guy went crazy. "Get all those balls. When you open them up, they lose their pressure. That's $298." And Paul's like, "Bad boy. Okay, I'll give you the $3." So, some people, it doesn't matter how much they achieve. They're not experiencing the fulfillment. And it's more people than you would think. That's just an extreme example to get people's attention. So, my whole thing is, the art of fulfillment is finding what lights you up. And it's different for everybody. Now, if you can find a way to achieve and be fulfilled, that's pretty awesome. But most people get so caught up in achievement, they miss that other side. You think about the guys, the first Apollo astronauts that walked on the moon. I mean, you got to think about these guys. Imagine you're with 100,000 people competing to be an astronaut walking on the moon. And then it's down to 10,000, and then it's 1,000, and then it's 100. And then you're up in the space capsule with this rocket structure in back, and no one knows for sure who's going to make it, and you make it to the moon. You walk on the moon, you come back, you make it safely. There's a ticker-tape parade for you in New York City. You shake the president's hand. Now what do you do for the rest of your life for adventure? Russell: You can't match that. Tony: You're 34 years old or 35, I can't remember what they were, but I think it was 34, 35 years old. I got to interview three of them later on in life. Almost all of them ended up with drug and alcohol problems. And they talked about it quite openly, because they forgot to find adventure in a smile. So, they've got this one big achievement. And how long does that last? It's historic, but the emotion of it is not the same as the years go by because we're made to keep growing. What makes you fulfilled is growth. Do you want to know what makes you happy? It's called progress. Progress equals happiness. If you're making progress, even if you're not there yet, you're going to be lit up. Your weight isn't where you want it to be. But sure enough, you decide to start on a process and you're starting to feel better physically. You lose a few inches and you feel some energy and momentum, you're lit up. You're the ideal weight and you just stay there, no progress, doesn't feel very alive. So, we have to find a way to make progress. And it's different for everybody. Some people find it in music. Some people find it by serving in a non-profit. Some people find it with their kids. But you got to find what lights you up. And again, it's different for everyone. Russell: I'm curious, people who started going through this, the Own the Future Challenge, they're going to be given a very scientific, here's the steps to have success in one area of something. What would be the biggest thing for them, or just one thing they could anchor themselves as they're going through that, to make sure that they're not missing the fulfillment during this journey they're going through? Tony: I think it's helpful to think of this in sequences, because it's hard to be able to write and do everything. You know, if you're doing really great in your business, often you're not taking care of your body. Or if you're doing good in your business and your body, often your relationship doesn't get enough time. Or your relationship's doing great, you don't spend enough time with your kids. If your kids are doing great, often some of your finances aren't straight. So, it's the nature of the human being to focus on what they're good at and miss the others. But you know, I love studying different philosophies. Philosophy, or even religion, if you step out of it, what is religion designed to be? And there are many great religions around the world. I'm personally a Christian. That's what I believe, but I don't tell people what to believe. But whatever you believe, it's designed to guide you to create a greater quality of life. And regardless of what I may subscribe to, I like to learn from every philosophy because we're all human. I go to India usually about twice, well, about once every two years I take a group of people there and we go to a place called Varanasi. It's one of the oldest cities in the world. It's like 3,800 years old. And what's striking about this location is, the people come there because they believe in their religion, in the Hindu religion, if you die in Varanasi, you go to heaven. You don't come back. Their idea of hell is coming back and reliving everything, right? Rebirth. And so, they have this experience, when somebody dies there, they believe that they don't come back and they're so happy to die in Varanasi. They’ll crawl there, people are dying there. I tried to save a lady. I was actually helping a lady who was being helped by the Mother Teresa group, and she was angry because she wanted to die. What do you people do, messing with me? And then they carry the bodies there and they burn the bodies. They've been burning bodies 24 hours a day. There's wood stacked about five story high, and then those ashes of the person are put in the Ganges. And no one cries, because they see the body burning as, the teacher is gone and now the spirit is free. So, I tell you that because you don't have to subscribe to something to say, "Wow, that's fascinating, no pain in death and you have this total trust in the universe or God or whatever term you want to use for it." But they also have what they believe are the four aims of life. And they think about them in a sequence. And I think it's sometimes useful for people. So, if you want to jot them down, the first one in the sequence is called Artha, A-R-T-H-A. It's one of the first aims of life. And what it really is, is security and prosperity. And so, if you don't have security and prosperity, it's really hard to enjoy the central parts of life for any extended way. It's really hard to feel your sense of purpose when you're worried about whether you can feed your family. It's really hard to feel that highest spiritual sense. It doesn't mean you can't. It just means it's harder. And so, the Indian culture understands that. And instead of saying, "This is bad or not spiritual," they say, "Finding your prosperity, your security, finding the way to do useful work that you feel good about, that you know is helpful, but also gets you to an economic place where you're prosperous is one of the first aims of life." And then, when you get that automatically the other dimensions start to open up. Now, you don't have to wait, but it's useful to remember, that is where we start. That's where I started, it's where we all start. How do I make sure my family's taken care of? We didn't have enough money for food when I was a kid. So, this was an obsession for me at an early age. I want to do so well, we don't have to worry about that stuff. But it's not non-spiritual. It's about saying "This is part of life that is anchoring in the science of achievement." Think of it that way, right? But then the next level is called Kama, K-A-M-A. And that's pleasure. And it's like, okay, now that you have security and prosperity as a base, and it's strong, you don't have to wait till then, the next thing you start developing is enjoying more of life. Pleasure is the driving force of life. You've got to find what gives you pleasure. And I don't just mean sensuality. I mean, it can be art, it can be music, it can be serving. It's all the different textures of life, because without pleasure, life's pretty dead. So, instead of going, "Oh my God, what am I going to do?" It's like, "Okay, let me go to this challenge and figure out how to get my security and prosperity down. Let me think of a new vehicle. Let me figure out how to get money chasing me instead of me chasing money." That's really what this challenge starts out with. And then the Kama side is like, "How much can I enjoy along the way while I'm learning? How much can I enjoy learning? Just the experience. How much can I enjoy building this business from the very beginning or taking a business there to the next level?" That's part of what Kama is, is finding the pleasure in the expansion and the appreciation of life. And then, the third level is what you and I have probably most focused on, would be Dharma. Dharma is like, "Okay, I've got so much security and prosperity and I know what gives me pleasure in life. And I've found useful work." It's like, "Okay, what's my higher purpose? What is that deeper purpose for me at this stage in my life?" And a lot of people overvalue this because they've tried to make it something huge. You know, for me, my purpose is... I used to have these long mission statements. "The principle of life is to be the most passionate, playful, outrageous, enjoyable, generous giving example of God's grace, as I serve millions of people over the..." Now it's like, "How can I help?" You know? Because that's really what it is. When I'm serving, I feel alive. So, the number one question I've got is, how can I help? Whenever someone's coming, that's the question. It's a burning question and it's a beautiful question because it brings joy and love to me and to them because most people are happy to have some help from somebody who sincerely cares. And it's not like I have all the answers. It's just, I have a lot of them because I've made it 61 years and I've traveled to 150 countries around the world and dealt with tens of millions of people. So, I'm fortunate because I’m not going to be an idiot, I should have ways to be able to help. So, it's like finding what is it? What is that way of life that is true for you at this stage? You've got enough security and prosperity and of pleasure. What's it all about? And then, ultimately it leads to what they call Moksha. And M-O-K... Moksha. M-O-K-S-H-A, I believe is how they spell it. And that's your unity with God. Now, does that say you're not unified with God at the beginning? Of course not. It's just like, there's a point where that really becomes the priority in somebody's life. And in their view, yes, you work on all four of them, but you are going to in the beginning, put more focus on securing your life and getting so you're not chasing money, money's chasing you and you have freedom for your family, right? You're going to, in the beginning, you'll be more focused on hopefully enjoying the pleasures of learning and growing and expanding and building something so you don't miss out. And then, you certainly want to figure out what your purpose is, but again, most people are trying to make it so big so they'll feel significant, when really it's just what lights you up. And if you do all those things, it leads to a greater connection to the universe, God, whatever you want to call it. So, even though I'm not Indian, and I'm Christian, I still think that general philosophy is a helpful way to look at your life, and also keeps you from beating yourself up. Because a lot of us are pretty hard, including you, Russell, I know you really well, on ourselves. We expect ourselves to do everything perfect, every moment, every time. And life is a journey of growing. I always tell people, "What makes you successful? Good judgment. Making good decisions. What does good judgment come from? Experience. Where does experience come from? Often, bad judgment." That's how you learn, right? Russell: The circle. Tony: What I've tried to do in my life, was take the bad judgments and the good judgments and say, "Let me compress decades into days and share with you so you don't have to learn by trial and error, show you the shortcuts to those things." And that's what I've done with all of my events and books and challenges, and everything else that we do. Russell: Oh, so cool. Okay. The next question I going to ask you about, because the first UPW I came to was in Toronto. I'm really bad at years, but probably 12, 14 years ago, something like that. And at the time, I had had some level of success, but there were a lot of times in my life where I felt like I was doing this personal development, trying to grow and I was trying to contribute. I was going through growth and contribution, but sometimes I felt like I had my foot on the gas at one moment and my foot on the brake at the other time, and I'm spinning around, and I'm just like, "Why am I not moving?" I was so frustrated. And one of the tools that you give at UPW, that was for me, probably the first big aha I got from you, and I've had so many since then, but it was the one that was the paradigm shift where I was like, "Okay, the student's now ready to listen to everything you're saying." And that's when you start talking about the six human needs. And I looked at it because I was looking at growth and contribution, which are the needs of the spirit. And these are the things I was focusing on, like how do I grow myself? How do I contribute? But I kept falling back because of the needs of the body or needs of the personality, those four needs. And because I didn't have those things in order, or were out of whack or they would be for a little while organized and I could go over here, but then something would happen. I'd slip back into them. And those kept me from progressing until I learned how to manage those things and get in a spot where my needs were being met. Then I could go and focus on growth and contribution. And I think in this challenge, people are going to be inspired to start doing growth and contribution, but I don't want them to be like I was, where I had the foot on the gas going forward the foot on the brake. I would love if you could talk to us a little bit about the four needs of the body and how we can take care of those, to make sure that we're able to actually go and focus on growth and contribution. Tony: Well, it kind of ties in a little bit with what I was just sharing, I've just got to get it to another angle, but you're very astute in this area. So, for people that don't know, early in my life, early, I don't know, maybe 10, 15 years into my career, I've been doing it 44 years, I remember I traveled to more than 100 countries and I'd started seeing the same patterns. Obviously, when you go to Asia, there's different values. People value the group more than the individual. Saving face is critical in Asia. It's very different in America, right? So, I noticed those differences, but what I noticed no matter where I went, was you saw the same problems, the same arguments, the same problems in relationships, the same issues with people's bodies, same financial issues. And I began to realize, while we do get conditioned, our goals, our dreams, our desires may come from some of our conditioning and our life experience, but there are certain inherent needs that all human beings have. And I came up with six, not from a book, just from seeing people and then playing with it back and forth until I could see that I could cover everything that human beings really do. And so, the bottom line is, I found that certainty was the basic, fundamental human need of all human beings. The need to be certain you could avoid pain, and that you could have ideally some pleasure or comfort. Think of it as certainty/comfort. We all want that because without certainty and comfort, we have pain, we have continuous pain. You got damage, continuous damage equals bad. So, it's actually survival instinct. The difference though, is I started, as I went through these six needs, I started seeing everybody has them. But as I will describe them to you really fast, there is a difference. And the difference is how you value them. For some people, certainty as the number one thing in life. If you change anything, they get upset. If you move things on their desk, they freak out. You change the time, they freak out. That's an example of certainty. Some people get their certainty by doing the same thing every day. Some people get certainty by trusting God's going to guide them. Some people get certainty because they've screwed up so much in the past and they still came out finding a way, and their brain goes, "I know I'll find a way, but I don't know what it is." Some people get certainty by smoking a cigarette because they're all stressed out and they take a breath, when they breathe in, it makes them comfortable and certain, right? Even though they're killing themselves. Some people get certainty by eating food for comfort. So, everybody has the need. The only two differences in human beings are, what's the order of importance for you that's going to completely change your direction in life? If you're certainty driven, you're going to be moving this direction away from the challenge. If you're uncertainty driven, meaning it's higher value for you, you're going to be going straight at it. And direction determines ultimate destination or destiny. So, once I know your direction, I know where you're going. I know what challenges you're going to face, I know what opportunities you’re going to have. Okay? So, the difference is, different orders and different rules. Some people, I got to do the same thing to be certain. Other people, I've just got to trust in God and I'm certain. Right? Very different. Some people work out to be certain. They get that strength in their body, they're ready to rock and roll again. We restored their certainty or their comfort. Some people eat to do it. Some of these ways you do are neutral. They don't affect you either way. They're just okay. Some actually have a negative impact, like smoking a cigarette. Some have a positive impact, like let's say trusting in God perhaps, if you believe in that, or working out certainly does. All right? So, the second human need though, outside of certainty is uncertainty, just so your audience knows. Uncertainty, variety, we all need surprise. I ask people at events, "Who here loves surprises?" Everybody raises their hand and says, "I." I say, "Bullshit. You like the surprises you want, right? The surprises you don't want, you call problems." But we need some variety, we need surprise to feel alive. Too much variety, people freak out. Too much certainty, people are bored out of their mind. So, are you in the lukewarm middle? No. You got to learn how to use both. Third human need, the need for significance, the need to feel unique, special, important. Everybody has it, including the people saying, "I don't want to be significant." What they're really saying is, "I don't want to be judged. I don't want anybody to be upset with me if I'm significant." Right? But some people get significance by working harder than anybody else. Some people do it by studying the Bible or Bhagavad Gita or whatever. Some people get that certainty by way of how they dress or their tattoos, or some people do it by money. Some people do it by being more generous. There's a million ways you can be significant or important to people or to feel needed. We all have the need. The only question is, how do you need it, and is it number one, two, three, four, five, changes how you're going to end up in one. Fourth, the need for love and connection. Everyone wants love and connection. Everyone needs it, whether they want it or not. Most people settle for connection because love is just too scary. And then, those first four needs, as you know, are the needs of the personality. We all need certainty to survive. We all need variety to feel alive. We all need some feeling of significance. And we all need some feeling of love. When a person feels completely insignificant to anyone, and unloved, that's when they start thinking about checking out. That's when someone will consider suicide, where there's no compelling future for them. So, these needs are critical, but almost everybody meets them. Somebody meets the needs by smoking and then tearing other people down. You can feel important by making other people less important. If I move you down, I have the illusion I'm moving up. It doesn't really work long-term but it works for the moment. Sugar feels good for the moment, long-term it doesn't feel good. So, you can meet your needs in positive ways, neutral or negative, but everyone finds a way to meet their needs to some extent. But the ultimate needs that you described were five and six. You got to grow to feel alive. We grow or we die. Like I just said, progress equals happiness, right? And we grow so we have something to give, because if we contribute in a meaningful way, we feel more alive. So, a lot of people jump on and go, "I want to grow and give, grow and give." Which is, there's zero wrong with that. I think it's fantastic. But like the example I gave you from India, your certainty is often tied to your access to food and shelter, and a quality of life, and maybe a certain amount of income to provide for your family. Right? So, yes, you do need to honor those, but everyone's different. Some people value love as the number one thing and they move in this direction. Some people value significance, and they go in a different direction, because the more you demand significance, the less love you usually get. Right? Because people have been pushed off by it. If somebody wants totally certain, they go in one direction. If they want variety, they go in a different direction. Again, direction determines your ultimate destination or destiny. So, when I know which one are your top two, I know how your life is going to turn out. And then I ask questions to find out, what does it take for you to feel significant? Do you have to make a billion dollars or pray to God and feel the connection? Walk out and go for a run by the ocean and feel the universe with you. Everyone has different ways. Once I know what you want and how you go about getting it, I know your opportunities, I know your challenges, and I know how to coach you. So, your question though, was... to be specific, I had to give that context so everyone knows what we're talking about, is, okay, I want to grow and contribute because those are the spiritual needs. Those are the ones most people miss. That's what makes you most fulfilled. But I still got to do these other four things and they're really easy to do. So, I think of it as saying, "Find your vehicle, find what's going to give you that economic security and idea, and economic independence. Again, when you're not chasing money, money might be start chasing you. That's an important part. You have to work your off and refine it. Science of achievement. Along the way, make sure you find the variety, the pleasure of the uniqueness of everything you're doing, and stopping and bringing it in. Every morning I do a process where I think of three things I'm most grateful for and I experience them fully, and then I think of a blessing and send the blessing to all my family and friends. And then I think of what I'm going to accomplish next. And that sets up plenty of that variety and certainty. Significance. You know, the most significant thing to me is love. But it's like, what am I doing that matters? Let me do some things that matter today. Love. What can I do that's kind? The fastest way to love is to give love, right? Fastest way to kindness is give kindness in a world where the world is pretty divided now, but it's still pretty magical when somebody does it authentically. So, it's not hard to meet the first four needs. Growing and contributing. That's where you're going to feel the most fulfilled. So, when people go through these challenges, what I always try to do is, I don't just give them the skill, I give them the emotion to follow through because otherwise you can know what to do and not do what you know anyway. So, that's kind of the way I try to balance it. Again, science of achievement and art of fulfillment, and just be aware of them both and focusing on both instead of just one. Russell: Yeah. Oh, I love that. I think for me, it was interesting because I noticed that when I was struggling to contribute or grow, it was because something was out of whack. I wasn't getting my love and connection or I wasn't feeling significant or something wasn't in place. And when I got to the point where I could figure out, okay, here's ways to make sure that I'm feeling these needs in a positive way, not a negative way, then it takes that pressure off. And I was like, "Now I can go grow. Now I can contribute. Now I can do things." I've noticed even nowadays, if it gets out of whack again, it's like I got to make sure all these things are spinning and I can go back and I can show up at a level that I can't when these things aren't running the right way. Tony: Yeah, that makes total sense. Russell: Yeah. Cool. My next question, this is going to kind of transition a little more to the challenge now. Obviously, a lot of people who are in your world and my world, they're coming because the growth, right? They're learning and they're learning, and they're growing, and that part's so much fun for all of us. The growth part is addicting. And I think that's why people love reading books and going through courses and all sorts of stuff. But I know for me, the real growth didn't come from me in this growth phase where I was learning stuff, it's as I started contributing and started helping other people. For me it was, I was starting my business, I was teaching other people. And that's when I first started to really connect with that contribution and that part of it. I know that that's one of the big things that this challenge is about, is getting people from a growth phase to, now how do you contribute? How do you take this knowledge and these ideas and the things that you're developing and learning, and how do you use them to serve other people? And I'd love for you to talk just a little about that transition, of how we transition from a growth mindset to, here's how I can contribute with these gifts that we've been given. Tony: I think the challenge is called Own Your Future Challenge, that we're doing. And it's myself and Dean and an army of just great friends of ours who are smart. The focus here is execution. It's not just about more learning and growing in this one. It's like showing you, you've got some knowledge. Someone you care about, bless you, has knowledge and you can take that knowledge and bring it to people in a world, even when it's shut down. I mean, my business, I've got 80 companies plus now, but my core mission with my business is Robbins Research, where I did my events and I've done my events. I mean, they literally, they made what I did illegal because the size of it. I'd do minimum, it'd be 10,000, most of them 15, 12,000 people, somewhere in that range. And all of a sudden, they made it illegal in every country in the world that I wanted to go to. Australia, London, Italy, France, everywhere, America, all over the place. And so, I had to figure out what to do. But I've got to tell you, I'm reaching more people now, and I'm doing it in a different way. You know? So, the tools to be able to reach people all over the earth, I mean, four billion people are on the internet now and we're going to see another two billion join over the next five or 10 years. Almost 50% more people are going to join the internet. The size of the marketplace of people you can serve is unbelievable. But you have to be able to get the skills and you got to get yourself to execute. A lot of people, as you said, get addicted to just the learning experience, which is the aha moments, like, "Oh my God, I understand that. That makes sense. Oh, I can change the world with that." But you know, I was very lucky, Jim Rowan was my original teacher, the personal development speaker. Some of your listeners probably know his name. He's been passed away for some time, but he used to always say, "Tony, don't let your learning lead to knowledge and become a fool." He said, "Let your learning lead to action." And he'd tell you to become wealthy. And to him, wealthy wasn't just money. It was like an extraordinary life. It was living life on your terms. It was life that was full of joy and happiness and fulfillment and meaning and economic freedom. And I think that's what we're really looking to do with people in this challenge, is show them the tools to execute. Yes, you can have the excitement of learning all this stuff and there's no charge for the fricking thing. It's these challenges, my last one I'm going to do this year. I did two this year. But I wanted to do it with my friends because I wanted people to have a vehicle. A lot of people don't have that first Artha. They don't have a vehicle for prosperity and security. And they're looking at a world where the world's changed, it's upside down and it's not going to go back to exactly how it was. Some things will return, obviously. But a lot of them aren't. And so, your job is to figure out, "What am I going to do now?" And so, where are you going to figure that out? So, we decided to bring the best people we know together to show you and show you how to use technology to do things in minutes. When I started out in this business, I mean, it took months to pull off. But literally the technology can do things for you today, as we all know. And so, I'm very excited about we're going to be able to offer people. But in a few days, they're not just going to have more knowledge and excitement, they're going to have perhaps a business or at least the beginnings of a business. And maybe even be online starting that out all in the few days of the challenge. So, that's the difference I think we're really focused on here, is making sure that... I always tell people, knowledge is not power. Knowledge is potential power. Execution beats and trumps knowledge every day of the week. That's our goal, is to get people to really each day, make some small actions, so by the end of the challenge, they're really in a place of having their business, or if they had a business, taking it to another level. Russell: Yeah. Well, I'm excited for the challenge. I'm going to be flying out to Phoenix and hanging out with you and Dean and everybody for one of the days. Tony: Looking forward to that. Russell: And I'm actually bringing my twin boys. My twin boys are 15 years old and I'm trying to show them how to control their future. So, they're going to come and sit there and experience it. And then, we're actually going to go out afterwards with some friends and we're going to go and feed the homeless and spend some time, and just showing them some really cool experiences after the challenge. So, I'm excited for it because I'll be participating in it as a student, and also as a one of the teachers as well. Tony: I just want to say something about you too, Russell, to your audience. You know, a lot of people virtual saying, "I'm going to go feed somebody," but you do this all the time, just like I do. It's not like something you do and then tell people you're doing it. You're just really doing it. And I love that you share it. Same reason I used to never share what I did in this area. But then I start realizing it inspires people to consider something new. And we're not doing it because we're just such good people. We're doing it because it's so fulfilling to do something for someone you don't even know. It's people don't understand what that does to you, to just do what's right. It doesn't have to be 24 hours a day. And especially doing it with your kids so they get addicted to it at an early age. I really honor you for that. Russell: Oh, thanks. I'm excited. It's going to be a fun experience. It's going to be a new experience for them. I think it's going to be awesome. Well, for those who are listening, if you're watching the video, there will probably be a link down below. But if you're listening, the sign up link to go sign up for the challenge, if you go to takethechallenge.com, that's where you can go sign up for the challenge through our link. And we've got a bunch of really cool bonuses and stuff for everybody who gets involved and hangs out. But that's where everything will be at, at takethechallenge.com. And if you do that, you have a chance to hang out with Tony and me and Dean and Jenna. And I don't even know. You have some amazing speakers that are part of this, people that only Tony could bring into the world, nobody else would say yes to be part of this. He's got some amazing people who he has a chance to come and hang out with and participate and learn how to start your own business. How to start going from this, from a growth mindset to contribution. "How do I create a business that serves other people?" I think I never understood that was what business was really about until honestly, probably the last seven or eight years since I started running ClickFunnels, and I seen, when you create a business and you help other people, that contribution, you see how people's lives are changed. I'm not talking about my own. I'm talking about people who've used ClickFunnels. You know, one of my favorite success stories inside of our ClickFunnels community is a couple named Brandon and Kaelin Poulin. And they were young, 22, 23-year-old couple when they came into our world, and she's really good at losing weight. And she took her knowledge and her experience, and now they've helped over a million women to lose weight. Tony: Wow. Russell: They've built a huge company that's 70, 80 employees now. And they're changing the lives of so many people and it's one person, one person taking their knowledge, turning it into something they can contribute. And it literally, the ripple effect of that is huge. You look at a million women, that's amazing, but those women have families and kids and communities they serve. And that ripple effects keeps going out. And that's just one person. And so, you never know where it's going to turn until you take that knowledge and turn it to something amazing. Tony: You think about where we are today, because of technology you can do that so fast. Try doing that 20 years ago. Trust me, it was a very different process. So, the possibility of that kind of impact is there. So, it all comes down to having an orientation that realizes that the only way to get wealthy is do more for other people than anybody else is doing, and do it consistently. And of course, if you add that much value, you'll have value that's added to you as well. But learning how to do that quickly, efficiently, step-by-step, that's what this challenge course is about. So, we look forward to seeing you guys there. Russell: That's awesome. Well, thank you, Tony. Thank you everybody. Again, go to takethechallenge.com, get signed up and we'll see you guys live here in a couple of days. So, thanks Tony. I appreciate you. Tony: Thank you, buddy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 May 2021 08:00:00 -0000 My PRIVATE Interview with Tony Robbins… full 412 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Want to be a fly on the wall as I talk to Tony today!? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  And don’t forget to check out ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up, everybody? This is Russell... Want to be a fly on the wall as I talk to Tony today!? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com And don’t forget to check out takethechallenge.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets Podcast. Oh, do I have a treat for you today. This week I had a chance to interview Tony Robbins, because a couple of reasons, number one, we are doing the Own Your Future Challenge that's coming up. Depending when you're listening to this, it's probably happening right now. And you can actually go sign up for that for free at takethechallenge.com. In fact, I would recommend pausing this, go sign up just so you've got it. But takethechallenge.com, a challenge about how to own your future and how to do a bunch of really cool things. And so, because the challenge is happening, and Tony and Dean are doing this with a whole bunch of other amazing people, I had a really rare opportunity to interview Tony. They said, "Hey, do you want to interview Tony for your podcast and your YouTube channel, all these things?" And of course, my answer was, "Yes." But I told him, I was like, "I don't really want to do an interview like everybody else is doing an interview. I want to do the interview based on things that I'm actually working on right now." So right now, as some of you know, I'm writing a book. My first personal development book ever. That's all I'm telling you. But a lot of what is in there, things I learned from Tony, and just principles and things I've learned from him a decade and a half ago that shifted my future and changed my destiny. And so, I said, "I want to ask you some questions that are a little different than everybody else." And he said, "Sure." I had a chance to ask him a whole bunch of really cool questions. I had a chance to ask him the difference between the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. How can people go achieve everything, but be miserable? How can people have nothing, but they're happy? How do these things work together? These are ying and the yang, how do they work together? And I was able to ask him directly. So I asked him about the six human needs, which is one of my favorite topics of all time I think and had the biggest impact on me from Tony, and then how he gets from growth to contribution. And, oh... Anyway, it was amazing. It was so much fun. So, you guys are lucky because you're going to have a chance to listen to it right now. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to give you the link in, go to takethechallenge.com, go sign up for the free challenge that way you'll have a chance to hear from Dean, from Tony, from me, from Jenna, from Sheldon, from Jamie Kern Lima, from Brendan Bouchard, from a whole bunch of just amazing people. It is a completely free challenge, so go sign up for it at takethechallenge.com and then come back and listen to my interview with Tony, and hope you enjoy it, it's going to be a lot of fun. And with that said we can cue the theme song. When I come back, you have a chance to hear my interview with Tony Robbins, about all the cool things I wanted to ask him. Oh, how cool is that? All right. We'll see you guys here in a minute. What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. I'm here today with the one and only Tony Robbins. And we're going to be talking about a whole bunch of really cool things right now. There's a challenge coming up right out in the next... actually, it's happening right now as this is being recorded, and a lot of you guys watching, called the Own Your Future Challenge. And we'll talk more about that here in a minute, but before we do, I have this really unique and exciting opportunity to ask Tony a couple of questions. And so, I hope you guys enjoy some of the questions like I'm going to be enjoying this because he's someone I've been studying and learning from now for, man, probably 20-something years, had a chance to know you now for probably 13, 14 years, which is really, really cool. And it's not often I get to ask you questions. So, now I got you for 20 or 30 minutes. I'm excited to do that. So, how are you feeling today, Tony? Tony Robbins: I'm feeling awesome, buddy. Russell: Well, obviously the challenge we're going to be talking about more towards the end is about owning your future. This is this thing that we're trying to go towards. And especially right now, after all of the season we've all been through, where there's so much chaos and change and everything. Now it's like, okay, let's get background and let's look towards the future. But I wanted to kind of start off probably differently than some people have asked you, just because I'm in the middle of working on a book right now. And in the book, I'm trying to figure out this thing that I heard originally from you. You talked about this concept of the science of achievement versus the art of fulfillment. And this is something in my life, especially as I'm trying to own my future, and try to go this direction, I've found multiple times where I've achieved something in my life, and then expecting to be super fulfilled and excited, and having almost the opposite effect happen. I'd love to hear some of your thoughts about just those two, the yin yang between achievement and fulfillment and maybe why they're not exactly the same, and how we can have more success feeling fulfilled when we do have success. Tony: Well, I was trying years ago, I was trying to figure out, how do you really define an extraordinary life? Not just success. Success for most people, I think means getting what they want. I think fulfillment is giving what you're made for. And I think that the challenge for most people is, as we're growing up and we're developing our skill and our ability to start to master our own world, there's at least in Western culture, there's a huge push for us all to be achievers. And most of us have been so rewarded for that. I'm here on your podcast because of it. You're doing podcasts because of it. We both have managed to pull that off. But as you've discovered, as you're now, what, 41 did you say? Russell: Yup, 41. Tony: You're 41 years old. There's a stage of your life where you start to wake up and go, "It's not enough to just be successful. It's not enough to just be financially free." You know, I know that sounds crazy to someone who's not there yet, but you don't have to wait until you're financially free to have a sense of fulfillment. So, what I propose to people is that life requires two master skills. Skill number one is the science of achievement, which means the ability to take whatever you envision and make it real. Turn the invisible into the visible. To me, that's a spiritual process. But how do I go from, I have this idea, to living that idea or delivering that idea to millions of people around the world? To me, that's science. And the reason I say that is science is because it's duplicatable. If I want to make more money, I can go, as I did, interview 100 of the smartest financial people in the world and find out exactly what they did. And they all did different things, but there are certain universal patterns that I did in MONEY Master the Game, and Unshakeable, and so forth. And when you understand them, if you sow the same seeds, you reap the same rewards. So, in the financial world, it's a science. That's achievement. If you're looking at your health, it's a certain amount of science, meaning we're all biochemically unique, right Russell? But everybody has certain fundamentals, and if you violate them, you're going to have dis-ease or low energy. If you align with them, you're going to have an abundance of vitality, energy, and strength. So, that's science. But fulfillment is an art. That's why I said, there's two skills. The science of achievement, which you can duplicate and learn, and I've taught for decades, and you have as well, you did an extraordinary job of it. But then, the art of fulfillment. And the reason I call it the art is because it isn't a science, because it's different for every single person. That's why most people miss out it. First they miss out on it because they're so focused on achievement, and they think that's going to fulfill them. But I ask your audience, even yourself, think of something. You and I have talked about this before. Think of something you've achieved that you worked your tail off to achieve and then you achieved it, and then your brain said, "Is this all there is?" Or worse, how about something you achieve and you really were happy about it, but how long did you stay happy? You made this incredible achievement, took you years to get to. Were you happy for the next five years because of it? Russell: No. Tony: The next year? The next six months? The next three months? The next two weeks? Russell: The next morning you wake up? Tony: Most people are somewhere between three hours and three weeks maximum before they go right back to where they were because the brain adjusts. It adjusts because we're not made to sit around and just be fulfilled. We're made to grow. And so, the great part of achievement is it causes you to strive for growth. The problem is, people just keeping the hamster on the wheel, trying to achieve more, and they aren't making sure along the way they're fulfilled. So, I believe these are both critically important. If you ask me honestly which one's more important, it's fulfillment because success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure. I mean, I interviewed 50 self-made billionaires, the smartest financial investors in the history of the world for MONEY Master the Game. I did it over two and a half years, and about maybe 12, 13 of them are really good friends now. And I can tell you, out of that group of 50, and this is zero judgment, maybe four of them are happy people. Now, you go, "Oh, see? Money makes you unhappy." No, money just magnifies who you are. If you're mean, you have more to be mean with. If you're giving, you have more to give with. It doesn't change anything. But these people, they're not bad people. They're brilliant people, but they're so brilliant in one area and they miss the fulfillment side. To see one of these men arguing with his wife and kid, because they bought some jewelry that I think was around $2,500 and the guy is a multi, multi billionaire. He couldn't spend all his money in all these years, and yet he's got conflict in his own family because of his mindset. There are some people, for example Paul Tudor was with me the other day and he was talking about a neighbor of his, I won't mention a name, but the guy's in a $40 million home, he goes over with his young son, this was a few years ago Paul did this, and the guy has his own grass tennis court. And Paul said, "I've never seen that." Paul's a billionaire, one of the smartest financial people in the world. And bottom line, he goes, "Your son opened one of the can of balls." The son I think was like five or six or seven at the time. And the guy went crazy. "Get all those balls. When you open them up, they lose their pressure. That's $298." And Paul's like, "Bad boy. Okay, I'll give you the $3." So, some people, it doesn't matter how much they achieve. They're not experiencing the fulfillment. And it's more people than you would think. That's just an extreme example to get people's attention. So, my whole thing is, the art of fulfillment is finding what lights you up. And it's different for everybody. Now, if you can find a way to achieve and be fulfilled, that's pretty awesome. But most people get so caught up in achievement, they miss that other side. You think about the guys, the first Apollo astronauts that walked on the moon. I mean, you got to think about these guys. Imagine you're with 100,000 people competing to be an astronaut walking on the moon. And then it's down to 10,000, and then it's 1,000, and then it's 100. And then you're up in the space capsule with this rocket structure in back, and no one knows for sure who's going to make it, and you make it to the moon. You walk on the moon, you come back, you make it safely. There's a ticker-tape parade for you in New York City. You shake the president's hand. Now what do you do for the rest of your life for adventure? Russell: You can't match that. Tony: You're 34 years old or 35, I can't remember what they were, but I think it was 34, 35 years old. I got to interview three of them later on in life. Almost all of them ended up with drug and alcohol problems. And they talked about it quite openly, because they forgot to find adventure in a smile. So, they've got this one big achievement. And how long does that last? It's historic, but the emotion of it is not the same as the years go by because we're made to keep growing. What makes you fulfilled is growth. Do you want to know what makes you happy? It's called progress. Progress equals happiness. If you're making progress, even if you're not there yet, you're going to be lit up. Your weight isn't where you want it to be. But sure enough, you decide to start on a process and you're starting to feel better physically. You lose a few inches and you feel some energy and momentum, you're lit up. You're the ideal weight and you just stay there, no progress, doesn't feel very alive. So, we have to find a way to make progress. And it's different for everybody. Some people find it in music. Some people find it by serving in a non-profit. Some people find it with their kids. But you got to find what lights you up. And again, it's different for everyone. Russell: I'm curious, people who started going through this, the Own the Future Challenge, they're going to be given a very scientific, here's the steps to have success in one area of something. What would be the biggest thing for them, or just one thing they could anchor themselves as they're going through that, to make sure that they're not missing the fulfillment during this journey they're going through? Tony: I think it's helpful to think of this in sequences, because it's hard to be able to write and do everything. You know, if you're doing really great in your business, often you're not taking care of your body. Or if you're doing good in your business and your body, often your relationship doesn't get enough time. Or your relationship's doing great, you don't spend enough time with your kids. If your kids are doing great, often some of your finances aren't straight. So, it's the nature of the human being to focus on what they're good at and miss the others. But you know, I love studying different philosophies. Philosophy, or even religion, if you step out of it, what is religion designed to be? And there are many great religions around the world. I'm personally a Christian. That's what I believe, but I don't tell people what to believe. But whatever you believe, it's designed to guide you to create a greater quality of life. And regardless of what I may subscribe to, I like to learn from every philosophy because we're all human. I go to India usually about twice, well, about once every two years I take a group of people there and we go to a place called Varanasi. It's one of the oldest cities in the world. It's like 3,800 years old. And what's striking about this location is, the people come there because they believe in their religion, in the Hindu religion, if you die in Varanasi, you go to heaven. You don't come back. Their idea of hell is coming back and reliving everything, right? Rebirth. And so, they have this experience, when somebody dies there, they believe that they don't come back and they're so happy to die in Varanasi. They’ll crawl there, people are dying there. I tried to save a lady. I was actually helping a lady who was being helped by the Mother Teresa group, and she was angry because she wanted to die. What do you people do, messing with me? And then they carry the bodies there and they burn the bodies. They've been burning bodies 24 hours a day. There's wood stacked about five story high, and then those ashes of the person are put in the Ganges. And no one cries, because they see the body burning as, the teacher is gone and now the spirit is free. So, I tell you that because you don't have to subscribe to something to say, "Wow, that's fascinating, no pain in death and you have this total trust in the universe or God or whatever term you want to use for it." But they also have what they believe are the four aims of life. And they think about them in a sequence. And I think it's sometimes useful for people. So, if you want to jot them down, the first one in the sequence is called Artha, A-R-T-H-A. It's one of the first aims of life. And what it really is, is security and prosperity. And so, if you don't have security and prosperity, it's really hard to enjoy the central parts of life for any extended way. It's really hard to feel your sense of purpose when you're worried about whether you can feed your family. It's really hard to feel that highest spiritual sense. It doesn't mean you can't. It just means it's harder. And so, the Indian culture understands that. And instead of saying, "This is bad or not spiritual," they say, "Finding your prosperity, your security, finding the way to do useful work that you feel good about, that you know is helpful, but also gets you to an economic place where you're prosperous is one of the first aims of life." And then, when you get that automatically the other dimensions start to open up. Now, you don't have to wait, but it's useful to remember, that is where we start. That's where I started, it's where we all start. How do I make sure my family's taken care of? We didn't have enough money for food when I was a kid. So, this was an obsession for me at an early age. I want to do so well, we don't have to worry about that stuff. But it's not non-spiritual. It's about saying "This is part of life that is anchoring in the science of achievement." Think of it that way, right? But then the next level is called Kama, K-A-M-A. And that's pleasure. And it's like, okay, now that you have security and prosperity as a base, and it's strong, you don't have to wait till then, the next thing you start developing is enjoying more of life. Pleasure is the driving force of life. You've got to find what gives you pleasure. And I don't just mean sensuality. I mean, it can be art, it can be music, it can be serving. It's all the different textures of life, because without pleasure, life's pretty dead. So, instead of going, "Oh my God, what am I going to do?" It's like, "Okay, let me go to this challenge and figure out how to get my security and prosperity down. Let me think of a new vehicle. Let me figure out how to get money chasing me instead of me chasing money." That's really what this challenge starts out with. And then the Kama side is like, "How much can I enjoy along the way while I'm learning? How much can I enjoy learning? Just the experience. How much can I enjoy building this business from the very beginning or taking a business there to the next level?" That's part of what Kama is, is finding the pleasure in the expansion and the appreciation of life. And then, the third level is what you and I have probably most focused on, would be Dharma. Dharma is like, "Okay, I've got so much security and prosperity and I know what gives me pleasure in life. And I've found useful work." It's like, "Okay, what's my higher purpose? What is that deeper purpose for me at this stage in my life?" And a lot of people overvalue this because they've tried to make it something huge. You know, for me, my purpose is... I used to have these long mission statements. "The principle of life is to be the most passionate, playful, outrageous, enjoyable, generous giving example of God's grace, as I serve millions of people over the..." Now it's like, "How can I help?" You know? Because that's really what it is. When I'm serving, I feel alive. So, the number one question I've got is, how can I help? Whenever someone's coming, that's the question. It's a burning question and it's a beautiful question because it brings joy and love to me and to them because most people are happy to have some help from somebody who sincerely cares. And it's not like I have all the answers. It's just, I have a lot of them because I've made it 61 years and I've traveled to 150 countries around the world and dealt with tens of millions of people. So, I'm fortunate because I’m not going to be an idiot, I should have ways to be able to help. So, it's like finding what is it? What is that way of life that is true for you at this stage? You've got enough security and prosperity and of pleasure. What's it all about? And then, ultimately it leads to what they call Moksha. And M-O-K... Moksha. M-O-K-S-H-A, I believe is how they spell it. And that's your unity with God. Now, does that say you're not unified with God at the beginning? Of course not. It's just like, there's a point where that really becomes the priority in somebody's life. And in their view, yes, you work on all four of them, but you are going to in the beginning, put more focus on securing your life and getting so you're not chasing money, money's chasing you and you have freedom for your family, right? You're going to, in the beginning, you'll be more focused on hopefully enjoying the pleasures of learning and growing and expanding and building something so you don't miss out. And then, you certainly want to figure out what your purpose is, but again, most people are trying to make it so big so they'll feel significant, when really it's just what lights you up. And if you do all those things, it leads to a greater connection to the universe, God, whatever you want to call it. So, even though I'm not Indian, and I'm Christian, I still think that general philosophy is a helpful way to look at your life, and also keeps you from beating yourself up. Because a lot of us are pretty hard, including you, Russell, I know you really well, on ourselves. We expect ourselves to do everything perfect, every moment, every time. And life is a journey of growing. I always tell people, "What makes you successful? Good judgment. Making good decisions. What does good judgment come from? Experience. Where does experience come from? Often, bad judgment." That's how you learn, right? Russell: The circle. Tony: What I've tried to do in my life, was take the bad judgments and the good judgments and say, "Let me compress decades into days and share with you so you don't have to learn by trial and error, show you the shortcuts to those things." And that's what I've done with all of my events and books and challenges, and everything else that we do. Russell: Oh, so cool. Okay. The next question I going to ask you about, because the first UPW I came to was in Toronto. I'm really bad at years, but probably 12, 14 years ago, something like that. And at the time, I had had some level of success, but there were a lot of times in my life where I felt like I was doing this personal development, trying to grow and I was trying to contribute. I was going through growth and contribution, but sometimes I felt like I had my foot on the gas at one moment and my foot on the brake at the other time, and I'm spinning around, and I'm just like, "Why am I not moving?" I was so frustrated. And one of the tools that you give at UPW, that was for me, probably the first big aha I got from you, and I've had so many since then, but it was the one that was the paradigm shift where I was like, "Okay, the student's now ready to listen to everything you're saying." And that's when you start talking about the six human needs. And I looked at it because I was looking at growth and contribution, which are the needs of the spirit. And these are the things I was focusing on, like how do I grow myself? How do I contribute? But I kept falling back because of the needs of the body or needs of the personality, those four needs. And because I didn't have those things in order, or were out of whack or they would be for a little while organized and I could go over here, but then something would happen. I'd slip back into them. And those kept me from progressing until I learned how to manage those things and get in a spot where my needs were being met. Then I could go and focus on growth and contribution. And I think in this challenge, people are going to be inspired to start doing growth and contribution, but I don't want them to be like I was, where I had the foot on the gas going forward the foot on the brake. I would love if you could talk to us a little bit about the four needs of the body and how we can take care of those, to make sure that we're able to actually go and focus on growth and contribution. Tony: Well, it kind of ties in a little bit with what I was just sharing, I've just got to get it to another angle, but you're very astute in this area. So, for people that don't know, early in my life, early, I don't know, maybe 10, 15 years into my career, I've been doing it 44 years, I remember I traveled to more than 100 countries and I'd started seeing the same patterns. Obviously, when you go to Asia, there's different values. People value the group more than the individual. Saving face is critical in Asia. It's very different in America, right? So, I noticed those differences, but what I noticed no matter where I went, was you saw the same problems, the same arguments, the same problems in relationships, the same issues with people's bodies, same financial issues. And I began to realize, while we do get conditioned, our goals, our dreams, our desires may come from some of our conditioning and our life experience, but there are certain inherent needs that all human beings have. And I came up with six, not from a book, just from seeing people and then playing with it back and forth until I could see that I could cover everything that human beings really do. And so, the bottom line is, I found that certainty was the basic, fundamental human need of all human beings. The need to be certain you could avoid pain, and that you could have ideally some pleasure or comfort. Think of it as certainty/comfort. We all want that because without certainty and comfort, we have pain, we have continuous pain. You got damage, continuous damage equals bad. So, it's actually survival instinct. The difference though, is I started, as I went through these six needs, I started seeing everybody has them. But as I will describe them to you really fast, there is a difference. And the difference is how you value them. For some people, certainty as the number one thing in life. If you change anything, they get upset. If you move things on their desk, they freak out. You change the time, they freak out. That's an example of certainty. Some people get their certainty by doing the same thing every day. Some people get certainty by trusting God's going to guide them. Some people get certainty because they've screwed up so much in the past and they still came out finding a way, and their brain goes, "I know I'll find a way, but I don't know what it is." Some people get certainty by smoking a cigarette because they're all stressed out and they take a breath, when they breathe in, it makes them comfortable and certain, right? Even though they're killing themselves. Some people get certainty by eating food for comfort. So, everybody has the need. The only two differences in human beings are, what's the order of importance for you that's going to completely change your direction in life? If you're certainty driven, you're going to be moving this direction away from the challenge. If you're uncertainty driven, meaning it's higher value for you, you're going to be going straight at it. And direction determines ultimate destination or destiny. So, once I know your direction, I know where you're going. I know what challenges you're going to face, I know what opportunities you’re going to have. Okay? So, the difference is, different orders and different rules. Some people, I got to do the same thing to be certain. Other people, I've just got to trust in God and I'm certain. Right? Very different. Some people work out to be certain. They get that strength in their body, they're ready to rock and roll again. We restored their certainty or their comfort. Some people eat to do it. Some of these ways you do are neutral. They don't affect you either way. They're just okay. Some actually have a negative impact, like smoking a cigarette. Some have a positive impact, like let's say trusting in God perhaps, if you believe in that, or working out certainly does. All right? So, the second human need though, outside of certainty is uncertainty, just so your audience knows. Uncertainty, variety, we all need surprise. I ask people at events, "Who here loves surprises?" Everybody raises their hand and says, "I." I say, "Bullshit. You like the surprises you want, right? The surprises you don't want, you call problems." But we need some variety, we need surprise to feel alive. Too much variety, people freak out. Too much certainty, people are bored out of their mind. So, are you in the lukewarm middle? No. You got to learn how to use both. Third human need, the need for significance, the need to feel unique, special, important. Everybody has it, including the people saying, "I don't want to be significant." What they're really saying is, "I don't want to be judged. I don't want anybody to be upset with me if I'm significant." Right? But some people get significance by working harder than anybody else. Some people do it by studying the Bible or Bhagavad Gita or whatever. Some people get that certainty by way of how they dress or their tattoos, or some people do it by money. Some people do it by being more generous. There's a million ways you can be significant or important to people or to feel needed. We all have the need. The only question is, how do you need it, and is it number one, two, three, four, five, changes how you're going to end up in one. Fourth, the need for love and connection. Everyone wants love and connection. Everyone needs it, whether they want it or not. Most people settle for connection because love is just too scary. And then, those first four needs, as you know, are the needs of the personality. We all need certainty to survive. We all need variety to feel alive. We all need some feeling of significance. And we all need some feeling of love. When a person feels completely insignificant to anyone, and unloved, that's when they start thinking about checking out. That's when someone will consider suicide, where there's no compelling future for them. So, these needs are critical, but almost everybody meets them. Somebody meets the needs by smoking and then tearing other people down. You can feel important by making other people less important. If I move you down, I have the illusion I'm moving up. It doesn't really work long-term but it works for the moment. Sugar feels good for the moment, long-term it doesn't feel good. So, you can meet your needs in positive ways, neutral or negative, but everyone finds a way to meet their needs to some extent. But the ultimate needs that you described were five and six. You got to grow to feel alive. We grow or we die. Like I just said, progress equals happiness, right? And we grow so we have something to give, because if we contribute in a meaningful way, we feel more alive. So, a lot of people jump on and go, "I want to grow and give, grow and give." Which is, there's zero wrong with that. I think it's fantastic. But like the example I gave you from India, your certainty is often tied to your access to food and shelter, and a quality of life, and maybe a certain amount of income to provide for your family. Right? So, yes, you do need to honor those, but everyone's different. Some people value love as the number one thing and they move in this direction. Some people value significance, and they go in a different direction, because the more you demand significance, the less love you usually get. Right? Because people have been pushed off by it. If somebody wants totally certain, they go in one direction. If they want variety, they go in a different direction. Again, direction determines your ultimate destination or destiny. So, when I know which one are your top two, I know how your life is going to turn out. And then I ask questions to find out, what does it take for you to feel significant? Do you have to make a billion dollars or pray to God and feel the connection? Walk out and go for a run by the ocean and feel the universe with you. Everyone has different ways. Once I know what you want and how you go about getting it, I know your opportunities, I know your challenges, and I know how to coach you. So, your question though, was... to be specific, I had to give that context so everyone knows what we're talking about, is, okay, I want to grow and contribute because those are the spiritual needs. Those are the ones most people miss. That's what makes you most fulfilled. But I still got to do these other four things and they're really easy to do. So, I think of it as saying, "Find your vehicle, find what's going to give you that economic security and idea, and economic independence. Again, when you're not chasing money, money might be start chasing you. That's an important part. You have to work your off and refine it. Science of achievement. Along the way, make sure you find the variety, the pleasure of the uniqueness of everything you're doing, and stopping and bringing it in. Every morning I do a process where I think of three things I'm most grateful for and I experience them fully, and then I think of a blessing and send the blessing to all my family and friends. And then I think of what I'm going to accomplish next. And that sets up plenty of that variety and certainty. Significance. You know, the most significant thing to me is love. But it's like, what am I doing that matters? Let me do some things that matter today. Love. What can I do that's kind? The fastest way to love is to give love, right? Fastest way to kindness is give kindness in a world where the world is pretty divided now, but it's still pretty magical when somebody does it authentically. So, it's not hard to meet the first four needs. Growing and contributing. That's where you're going to feel the most fulfilled. So, when people go through these challenges, what I always try to do is, I don't just give them the skill, I give them the emotion to follow through because otherwise you can know what to do and not do what you know anyway. So, that's kind of the way I try to balance it. Again, science of achievement and art of fulfillment, and just be aware of them both and focusing on both instead of just one. Russell: Yeah. Oh, I love that. I think for me, it was interesting because I noticed that when I was struggling to contribute or grow, it was because something was out of whack. I wasn't getting my love and connection or I wasn't feeling significant or something wasn't in place. And when I got to the point where I could figure out, okay, here's ways to make sure that I'm feeling these needs in a positive way, not a negative way, then it takes that pressure off. And I was like, "Now I can go grow. Now I can contribute. Now I can do things." I've noticed even nowadays, if it gets out of whack again, it's like I got to make sure all these things are spinning and I can go back and I can show up at a level that I can't when these things aren't running the right way. Tony: Yeah, that makes total sense. Russell: Yeah. Cool. My next question, this is going to kind of transition a little more to the challenge now. Obviously, a lot of people who are in your world and my world, they're coming because the growth, right? They're learning and they're learning, and they're growing, and that part's so much fun for all of us. The growth part is addicting. And I think that's why people love reading books and going through courses and all sorts of stuff. But I know for me, the real growth didn't come from me in this growth phase where I was learning stuff, it's as I started contributing and started helping other people. For me it was, I was starting my business, I was teaching other people. And that's when I first started to really connect with that contribution and that part of it. I know that that's one of the big things that this challenge is about, is getting people from a growth phase to, now how do you contribute? How do you take this knowledge and these ideas and the things that you're developing and learning, and how do you use them to serve other people? And I'd love for you to talk just a little about that transition, of how we transition from a growth mindset to, here's how I can contribute with these gifts that we've been given. Tony: I think the challenge is called Own Your Future Challenge, that we're doing. And it's myself and Dean and an army of just great friends of ours who are smart. The focus here is execution. It's not just about more learning and growing in this one. It's like showing you, you've got some knowledge. Someone you care about, bless you, has knowledge and you can take that knowledge and bring it to people in a world, even when it's shut down. I mean, my business, I've got 80 companies plus now, but my core mission with my business is Robbins Research, where I did my events and I've done my events. I mean, they literally, they made what I did illegal because the size of it. I'd do minimum, it'd be 10,000, most of them 15, 12,000 people, somewhere in that range. And all of a sudden, they made it illegal in every country in the world that I wanted to go to. Australia, London, Italy, France, everywhere, America, all over the place. And so, I had to figure out what to do. But I've got to tell you, I'm reaching more people now, and I'm doing it in a different way. You know? So, the tools to be able to reach people all over the earth, I mean, four billion people are on the internet now and we're going to see another two billion join over the next five or 10 years. Almost 50% more people are going to join the internet. The size of the marketplace of people you can serve is unbelievable. But you have to be able to get the skills and you got to get yourself to execute. A lot of people, as you said, get addicted to just the learning experience, which is the aha moments, like, "Oh my God, I understand that. That makes sense. Oh, I can change the world with that." But you know, I was very lucky, Jim Rowan was my original teacher, the personal development speaker. Some of your listeners probably know his name. He's been passed away for some time, but he used to always say, "Tony, don't let your learning lead to knowledge and become a fool." He said, "Let your learning lead to action." And he'd tell you to become wealthy. And to him, wealthy wasn't just money. It was like an extraordinary life. It was living life on your terms. It was life that was full of joy and happiness and fulfillment and meaning and economic freedom. And I think that's what we're really looking to do with people in this challenge, is show them the tools to execute. Yes, you can have the excitement of learning all this stuff and there's no charge for the fricking thing. It's these challenges, my last one I'm going to do this year. I did two this year. But I wanted to do it with my friends because I wanted people to have a vehicle. A lot of people don't have that first Artha. They don't have a vehicle for prosperity and security. And they're looking at a world where the world's changed, it's upside down and it's not going to go back to exactly how it was. Some things will return, obviously. But a lot of them aren't. And so, your job is to figure out, "What am I going to do now?" And so, where are you going to figure that out? So, we decided to bring the best people we know together to show you and show you how to use technology to do things in minutes. When I started out in this business, I mean, it took months to pull off. But literally the technology can do things for you today, as we all know. And so, I'm very excited about we're going to be able to offer people. But in a few days, they're not just going to have more knowledge and excitement, they're going to have perhaps a business or at least the beginnings of a business. And maybe even be online starting that out all in the few days of the challenge. So, that's the difference I think we're really focused on here, is making sure that... I always tell people, knowledge is not power. Knowledge is potential power. Execution beats and trumps knowledge every day of the week. That's our goal, is to get people to really each day, make some small actions, so by the end of the challenge, they're really in a place of having their business, or if they had a business, taking it to another level. Russell: Yeah. Well, I'm excited for the challenge. I'm going to be flying out to Phoenix and hanging out with you and Dean and everybody for one of the days. Tony: Looking forward to that. Russell: And I'm actually bringing my twin boys. My twin boys are 15 years old and I'm trying to show them how to control their future. So, they're going to come and sit there and experience it. And then, we're actually going to go out afterwards with some friends and we're going to go and feed the homeless and spend some time, and just showing them some really cool experiences after the challenge. So, I'm excited for it because I'll be participating in it as a student, and also as a one of the teachers as well. Tony: I just want to say something about you too, Russell, to your audience. You know, a lot of people virtual saying, "I'm going to go feed somebody," but you do this all the time, just like I do. It's not like something you do and then tell people you're doing it. You're just really doing it. And I love that you share it. Same reason I used to never share what I did in this area. But then I start realizing it inspires people to consider something new. And we're not doing it because we're just such good people. We're doing it because it's so fulfilling to do something for someone you don't even know. It's people don't understand what that does to you, to just do what's right. It doesn't have to be 24 hours a day. And especially doing it with your kids so they get addicted to it at an early age. I really honor you for that. Russell: Oh, thanks. I'm excited. It's going to be a fun experience. It's going to be a new experience for them. I think it's going to be awesome. Well, for those who are listening, if you're watching the video, there will probably be a link down below. But if you're listening, the sign up link to go sign up for the challenge, if you go to takethechallenge.com, that's where you can go sign up for the challenge through our link. And we've got a bunch of really cool bonuses and stuff for everybody who gets involved and hangs out. But that's where everything will be at, at takethechallenge.com. And if you do that, you have a chance to hang out with Tony and me and Dean and Jenna. And I don't even know. You have some amazing speakers that are part of this, people that only Tony could bring into the world, nobody else would say yes to be part of this. He's got some amazing people who he has a chance to come and hang out with and participate and learn how to start your own business. How to start going from this, from a growth mindset to contribution. "How do I create a business that serves other people?" I think I never understood that was what business was really about until honestly, probably the last seven or eight years since I started running ClickFunnels, and I seen, when you create a business and you help other people, that contribution, you see how people's lives are changed. I'm not talking about my own. I'm talking about people who've used ClickFunnels. You know, one of my favorite success stories inside of our ClickFunnels community is a couple named Brandon and Kaelin Poulin. And they were young, 22, 23-year-old couple when they came into our world, and she's really good at losing weight. And she took her knowledge and her experience, and now they've helped over a million women to lose weight. Tony: Wow. Russell: They've built a huge company that's 70, 80 employees now. And they're changing the lives of so many people and it's one person, one person taking their knowledge, turning it into something they can contribute. And it literally, the ripple effect of that is huge. You look at a million women, that's amazing, but those women have families and kids and communities they serve. And that ripple effects keeps going out. And that's just one person. And so, you never know where it's going to turn until you take that knowledge and turn it to something amazing. Tony: You think about where we are today, because of technology you can do that so fast. Try doing that 20 years ago. Trust me, it was a very different process. So, the possibility of that kind of impact is there. So, it all comes down to having an orientation that realizes that the only way to get wealthy is do more for other people than anybody else is doing, and do it consistently. And of course, if you add that much value, you'll have value that's added to you as well. But learning how to do that quickly, efficiently, step-by-step, that's what this challenge course is about. So, we look forward to seeing you guys there. Russell: That's awesome. Well, thank you, Tony. Thank you everybody. Again, go to takethechallenge.com, get signed up and we'll see you guys live here in a couple of days. So, thanks Tony. I appreciate you. Tony: Thank you, buddy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Want to be a fly on the wall as I talk to Tony today!?

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Russell Brunson: Hey, what's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets Podcast. Oh, do I have a treat for you today. This week I had a chance to interview Tony Robbins, because a couple of reasons, number one, we are doing the Own Your Future Challenge that's coming up. Depending when you're listening to this, it's probably happening right now. And you can actually go sign up for that for free at takethechallenge.com. In fact, I would recommend pausing this, go sign up just so you've got it. But takethechallenge.com, a challenge about how to own your future and how to do a bunch of really cool things. And so, because the challenge is happening, and Tony and Dean are doing this with a whole bunch of other amazing people, I had a really rare opportunity to interview Tony.

They said, "Hey, do you want to interview Tony for your podcast and your YouTube channel, all these things?" And of course, my answer was, "Yes." But I told him, I was like, "I don't really want to do an interview like everybody else is doing an interview. I want to do the interview based on things that I'm actually working on right now." So right now, as some of you know, I'm writing a book. My first personal development book ever. That's all I'm telling you. But a lot of what is in there, things I learned from Tony, and just principles and things I've learned from him a decade and a half ago that shifted my future and changed my destiny. And so, I said, "I want to ask you some questions that are a little different than everybody else." And he said, "Sure."

I had a chance to ask him a whole bunch of really cool questions. I had a chance to ask him the difference between the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. How can people go achieve everything, but be miserable? How can people have nothing, but they're happy? How do these things work together? These are ying and the yang, how do they work together? And I was able to ask him directly. So I asked him about the six human needs, which is one of my favorite topics of all time I think and had the biggest impact on me from Tony, and then how he gets from growth to contribution. And, oh... Anyway, it was amazing. It was so much fun.

So, you guys are lucky because you're going to have a chance to listen to it right now. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to give you the link in, go to takethechallenge.com, go sign up for the free challenge that way you'll have a chance to hear from Dean, from Tony, from me, from Jenna, from Sheldon, from Jamie Kern Lima, from Brendan Bouchard, from a whole bunch of just amazing people. It is a completely free challenge, so go sign up for it at takethechallenge.com and then come back and listen to my interview with Tony, and hope you enjoy it, it's going to be a lot of fun.

And with that said we can cue the theme song. When I come back, you have a chance to hear my interview with Tony Robbins, about all the cool things I wanted to ask him. Oh, how cool is that? All right. We'll see you guys here in a minute.

What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. I'm here today with the one and only Tony Robbins. And we're going to be talking about a whole bunch of really cool things right now. There's a challenge coming up right out in the next... actually, it's happening right now as this is being recorded, and a lot of you guys watching, called the Own Your Future Challenge. And we'll talk more about that here in a minute, but before we do, I have this really unique and exciting opportunity to ask Tony a couple of questions.

And so, I hope you guys enjoy some of the questions like I'm going to be enjoying this because he's someone I've been studying and learning from now for, man, probably 20-something years, had a chance to know you now for probably 13, 14 years, which is really, really cool. And it's not often I get to ask you questions. So, now I got you for 20 or 30 minutes. I'm excited to do that. So, how are you feeling today, Tony?

Tony Robbins: I'm feeling awesome, buddy.

Russell: Well, obviously the challenge we're going to be talking about more towards the end is about owning your future. This is this thing that we're trying to go towards. And especially right now, after all of the season we've all been through, where there's so much chaos and change and everything. Now it's like, okay, let's get background and let's look towards the future. But I wanted to kind of start off probably differently than some people have asked you, just because I'm in the middle of working on a book right now. And in the book, I'm trying to figure out this thing that I heard originally from you.

You talked about this concept of the science of achievement versus the art of fulfillment. And this is something in my life, especially as I'm trying to own my future, and try to go this direction, I've found multiple times where I've achieved something in my life, and then expecting to be super fulfilled and excited, and having almost the opposite effect happen. I'd love to hear some of your thoughts about just those two, the yin yang between achievement and fulfillment and maybe why they're not exactly the same, and how we can have more success feeling fulfilled when we do have success.

Tony: Well, I was trying years ago, I was trying to figure out, how do you really define an extraordinary life? Not just success. Success for most people, I think means getting what they want. I think fulfillment is giving what you're made for. And I think that the challenge for most people is, as we're growing up and we're developing our skill and our ability to start to master our own world, there's at least in Western culture, there's a huge push for us all to be achievers. And most of us have been so rewarded for that. I'm here on your podcast because of it. You're doing podcasts because of it. We both have managed to pull that off. But as you've discovered, as you're now, what, 41 did you say?

Russell: Yup, 41.

Tony: You're 41 years old. There's a stage of your life where you start to wake up and go, "It's not enough to just be successful. It's not enough to just be financially free." You know, I know that sounds crazy to someone who's not there yet, but you don't have to wait until you're financially free to have a sense of fulfillment. So, what I propose to people is that life requires two master skills. Skill number one is the science of achievement, which means the ability to take whatever you envision and make it real. Turn the invisible into the visible. To me, that's a spiritual process.

But how do I go from, I have this idea, to living that idea or delivering that idea to millions of people around the world? To me, that's science. And the reason I say that is science is because it's duplicatable. If I want to make more money, I can go, as I did, interview 100 of the smartest financial people in the world and find out exactly what they did. And they all did different things, but there are certain universal patterns that I did in MONEY Master the Game, and Unshakeable, and so forth.

And when you understand them, if you sow the same seeds, you reap the same rewards. So, in the financial world, it's a science. That's achievement. If you're looking at your health, it's a certain amount of science, meaning we're all biochemically unique, right Russell? But everybody has certain fundamentals, and if you violate them, you're going to have dis-ease or low energy. If you align with them, you're going to have an abundance of vitality, energy, and strength. So, that's science.

But fulfillment is an art. That's why I said, there's two skills. The science of achievement, which you can duplicate and learn, and I've taught for decades, and you have as well, you did an extraordinary job of it. But then, the art of fulfillment. And the reason I call it the art is because it isn't a science, because it's different for every single person. That's why most people miss out it. First they miss out on it because they're so focused on achievement, and they think that's going to fulfill them.

But I ask your audience, even yourself, think of something. You and I have talked about this before. Think of something you've achieved that you worked your tail off to achieve and then you achieved it, and then your brain said, "Is this all there is?" Or worse, how about something you achieve and you really were happy about it, but how long did you stay happy? You made this incredible achievement, took you years to get to. Were you happy for the next five years because of it?

Russell: No.

Tony: The next year? The next six months? The next three months? The next two weeks?

Russell: The next morning you wake up?

Tony: Most people are somewhere between three hours and three weeks maximum before they go right back to where they were because the brain adjusts. It adjusts because we're not made to sit around and just be fulfilled. We're made to grow. And so, the great part of achievement is it causes you to strive for growth. The problem is, people just keeping the hamster on the wheel, trying to achieve more, and they aren't making sure along the way they're fulfilled. So, I believe these are both critically important. If you ask me honestly which one's more important, it's fulfillment because success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure.

I mean, I interviewed 50 self-made billionaires, the smartest financial investors in the history of the world for MONEY Master the Game. I did it over two and a half years, and about maybe 12, 13 of them are really good friends now. And I can tell you, out of that group of 50, and this is zero judgment, maybe four of them are happy people. Now, you go, "Oh, see? Money makes you unhappy." No, money just magnifies who you are. If you're mean, you have more to be mean with. If you're giving, you have more to give with. It doesn't change anything.

But these people, they're not bad people. They're brilliant people, but they're so brilliant in one area and they miss the fulfillment side. To see one of these men arguing with his wife and kid, because they bought some jewelry that I think was around $2,500 and the guy is a multi, multi billionaire. He couldn't spend all his money in all these years, and yet he's got conflict in his own family because of his mindset.

There are some people, for example Paul Tudor was with me the other day and he was talking about a neighbor of his, I won't mention a name, but the guy's in a $40 million home, he goes over with his young son, this was a few years ago Paul did this, and the guy has his own grass tennis court. And Paul said, "I've never seen that." Paul's a billionaire, one of the smartest financial people in the world. And bottom line, he goes, "Your son opened one of the can of balls." The son I think was like five or six or seven at the time. And the guy went crazy. "Get all those balls. When you open them up, they lose their pressure. That's $298."

And Paul's like, "Bad boy. Okay, I'll give you the $3." So, some people, it doesn't matter how much they achieve. They're not experiencing the fulfillment. And it's more people than you would think. That's just an extreme example to get people's attention. So, my whole thing is, the art of fulfillment is finding what lights you up. And it's different for everybody. Now, if you can find a way to achieve and be fulfilled, that's pretty awesome. But most people get so caught up in achievement, they miss that other side.

You think about the guys, the first Apollo astronauts that walked on the moon. I mean, you got to think about these guys. Imagine you're with 100,000 people competing to be an astronaut walking on the moon. And then it's down to 10,000, and then it's 1,000, and then it's 100. And then you're up in the space capsule with this rocket structure in back, and no one knows for sure who's going to make it, and you make it to the moon. You walk on the moon, you come back, you make it safely. There's a ticker-tape parade for you in New York City. You shake the president's hand. Now what do you do for the rest of your life for adventure?

Russell: You can't match that.

Tony: You're 34 years old or 35, I can't remember what they were, but I think it was 34, 35 years old. I got to interview three of them later on in life. Almost all of them ended up with drug and alcohol problems. And they talked about it quite openly, because they forgot to find adventure in a smile. So, they've got this one big achievement. And how long does that last? It's historic, but the emotion of it is not the same as the years go by because we're made to keep growing. What makes you fulfilled is growth. Do you want to know what makes you happy? It's called progress. Progress equals happiness.

If you're making progress, even if you're not there yet, you're going to be lit up. Your weight isn't where you want it to be. But sure enough, you decide to start on a process and you're starting to feel better physically. You lose a few inches and you feel some energy and momentum, you're lit up. You're the ideal weight and you just stay there, no progress, doesn't feel very alive. So, we have to find a way to make progress. And it's different for everybody. Some people find it in music. Some people find it by serving in a non-profit. Some people find it with their kids. But you got to find what lights you up. And again, it's different for everyone.

Russell: I'm curious, people who started going through this, the Own the Future Challenge, they're going to be given a very scientific, here's the steps to have success in one area of something. What would be the biggest thing for them, or just one thing they could anchor themselves as they're going through that, to make sure that they're not missing the fulfillment during this journey they're going through?

Tony: I think it's helpful to think of this in sequences, because it's hard to be able to write and do everything. You know, if you're doing really great in your business, often you're not taking care of your body. Or if you're doing good in your business and your body, often your relationship doesn't get enough time. Or your relationship's doing great, you don't spend enough time with your kids. If your kids are doing great, often some of your finances aren't straight. So, it's the nature of the human being to focus on what they're good at and miss the others.

But you know, I love studying different philosophies. Philosophy, or even religion, if you step out of it, what is religion designed to be? And there are many great religions around the world. I'm personally a Christian. That's what I believe, but I don't tell people what to believe. But whatever you believe, it's designed to guide you to create a greater quality of life. And regardless of what I may subscribe to, I like to learn from every philosophy because we're all human. I go to India usually about twice, well, about once every two years I take a group of people there and we go to a place called Varanasi. It's one of the oldest cities in the world. It's like 3,800 years old.

And what's striking about this location is, the people come there because they believe in their religion, in the Hindu religion, if you die in Varanasi, you go to heaven. You don't come back. Their idea of hell is coming back and reliving everything, right? Rebirth. And so, they have this experience, when somebody dies there, they believe that they don't come back and they're so happy to die in Varanasi. They’ll crawl there, people are dying there.

I tried to save a lady. I was actually helping a lady who was being helped by the Mother Teresa group, and she was angry because she wanted to die. What do you people do, messing with me? And then they carry the bodies there and they burn the bodies. They've been burning bodies 24 hours a day. There's wood stacked about five story high, and then those ashes of the person are put in the Ganges. And no one cries, because they see the body burning as, the teacher is gone and now the spirit is free.

So, I tell you that because you don't have to subscribe to something to say, "Wow, that's fascinating, no pain in death and you have this total trust in the universe or God or whatever term you want to use for it." But they also have what they believe are the four aims of life. And they think about them in a sequence. And I think it's sometimes useful for people. So, if you want to jot them down, the first one in the sequence is called Artha, A-R-T-H-A. It's one of the first aims of life. And what it really is, is security and prosperity.

And so, if you don't have security and prosperity, it's really hard to enjoy the central parts of life for any extended way. It's really hard to feel your sense of purpose when you're worried about whether you can feed your family. It's really hard to feel that highest spiritual sense. It doesn't mean you can't. It just means it's harder. And so, the Indian culture understands that. And instead of saying, "This is bad or not spiritual," they say, "Finding your prosperity, your security, finding the way to do useful work that you feel good about, that you know is helpful, but also gets you to an economic place where you're prosperous is one of the first aims of life." And then, when you get that automatically the other dimensions start to open up.

Now, you don't have to wait, but it's useful to remember, that is where we start. That's where I started, it's where we all start. How do I make sure my family's taken care of? We didn't have enough money for food when I was a kid. So, this was an obsession for me at an early age. I want to do so well, we don't have to worry about that stuff. But it's not non-spiritual. It's about saying "This is part of life that is anchoring in the science of achievement." Think of it that way, right?

But then the next level is called Kama, K-A-M-A. And that's pleasure. And it's like, okay, now that you have security and prosperity as a base, and it's strong, you don't have to wait till then, the next thing you start developing is enjoying more of life. Pleasure is the driving force of life. You've got to find what gives you pleasure. And I don't just mean sensuality. I mean, it can be art, it can be music, it can be serving. It's all the different textures of life, because without pleasure, life's pretty dead.

So, instead of going, "Oh my God, what am I going to do?" It's like, "Okay, let me go to this challenge and figure out how to get my security and prosperity down. Let me think of a new vehicle. Let me figure out how to get money chasing me instead of me chasing money." That's really what this challenge starts out with. And then the Kama side is like, "How much can I enjoy along the way while I'm learning? How much can I enjoy learning? Just the experience. How much can I enjoy building this business from the very beginning or taking a business there to the next level?" That's part of what Kama is, is finding the pleasure in the expansion and the appreciation of life.

And then, the third level is what you and I have probably most focused on, would be Dharma. Dharma is like, "Okay, I've got so much security and prosperity and I know what gives me pleasure in life. And I've found useful work." It's like, "Okay, what's my higher purpose? What is that deeper purpose for me at this stage in my life?" And a lot of people overvalue this because they've tried to make it something huge. You know, for me, my purpose is... I used to have these long mission statements. "The principle of life is to be the most passionate, playful, outrageous, enjoyable, generous giving example of God's grace, as I serve millions of people over the..." Now it's like, "How can I help?" You know?

Because that's really what it is. When I'm serving, I feel alive. So, the number one question I've got is, how can I help? Whenever someone's coming, that's the question. It's a burning question and it's a beautiful question because it brings joy and love to me and to them because most people are happy to have some help from somebody who sincerely cares. And it's not like I have all the answers. It's just, I have a lot of them because I've made it 61 years and I've traveled to 150 countries around the world and dealt with tens of millions of people. So, I'm fortunate because I’m not going to be an idiot, I should have ways to be able to help. So, it's like finding what is it? What is that way of life that is true for you at this stage? You've got enough security and prosperity and of pleasure. What's it all about?

And then, ultimately it leads to what they call Moksha. And M-O-K... Moksha. M-O-K-S-H-A, I believe is how they spell it. And that's your unity with God. Now, does that say you're not unified with God at the beginning? Of course not. It's just like, there's a point where that really becomes the priority in somebody's life. And in their view, yes, you work on all four of them, but you are going to in the beginning, put more focus on securing your life and getting so you're not chasing money, money's chasing you and you have freedom for your family, right?

You're going to, in the beginning, you'll be more focused on hopefully enjoying the pleasures of learning and growing and expanding and building something so you don't miss out. And then, you certainly want to figure out what your purpose is, but again, most people are trying to make it so big so they'll feel significant, when really it's just what lights you up. And if you do all those things, it leads to a greater connection to the universe, God, whatever you want to call it.

So, even though I'm not Indian, and I'm Christian, I still think that general philosophy is a helpful way to look at your life, and also keeps you from beating yourself up. Because a lot of us are pretty hard, including you, Russell, I know you really well, on ourselves. We expect ourselves to do everything perfect, every moment, every time. And life is a journey of growing. I always tell people, "What makes you successful? Good judgment. Making good decisions. What does good judgment come from? Experience. Where does experience come from? Often, bad judgment." That's how you learn, right?

Russell: The circle.

Tony: What I've tried to do in my life, was take the bad judgments and the good judgments and say, "Let me compress decades into days and share with you so you don't have to learn by trial and error, show you the shortcuts to those things." And that's what I've done with all of my events and books and challenges, and everything else that we do.

Russell: Oh, so cool. Okay. The next question I going to ask you about, because the first UPW I came to was in Toronto. I'm really bad at years, but probably 12, 14 years ago, something like that. And at the time, I had had some level of success, but there were a lot of times in my life where I felt like I was doing this personal development, trying to grow and I was trying to contribute. I was going through growth and contribution, but sometimes I felt like I had my foot on the gas at one moment and my foot on the brake at the other time, and I'm spinning around, and I'm just like, "Why am I not moving?" I was so frustrated.

And one of the tools that you give at UPW, that was for me, probably the first big aha I got from you, and I've had so many since then, but it was the one that was the paradigm shift where I was like, "Okay, the student's now ready to listen to everything you're saying." And that's when you start talking about the six human needs. And I looked at it because I was looking at growth and contribution, which are the needs of the spirit. And these are the things I was focusing on, like how do I grow myself? How do I contribute? But I kept falling back because of the needs of the body or needs of the personality, those four needs.

And because I didn't have those things in order, or were out of whack or they would be for a little while organized and I could go over here, but then something would happen. I'd slip back into them. And those kept me from progressing until I learned how to manage those things and get in a spot where my needs were being met. Then I could go and focus on growth and contribution. And I think in this challenge, people are going to be inspired to start doing growth and contribution, but I don't want them to be like I was, where I had the foot on the gas going forward the foot on the brake. I would love if you could talk to us a little bit about the four needs of the body and how we can take care of those, to make sure that we're able to actually go and focus on growth and contribution.

Tony: Well, it kind of ties in a little bit with what I was just sharing, I've just got to get it to another angle, but you're very astute in this area. So, for people that don't know, early in my life, early, I don't know, maybe 10, 15 years into my career, I've been doing it 44 years, I remember I traveled to more than 100 countries and I'd started seeing the same patterns. Obviously, when you go to Asia, there's different values. People value the group more than the individual. Saving face is critical in Asia. It's very different in America, right? So, I noticed those differences, but what I noticed no matter where I went, was you saw the same problems, the same arguments, the same problems in relationships, the same issues with people's bodies, same financial issues.

And I began to realize, while we do get conditioned, our goals, our dreams, our desires may come from some of our conditioning and our life experience, but there are certain inherent needs that all human beings have. And I came up with six, not from a book, just from seeing people and then playing with it back and forth until I could see that I could cover everything that human beings really do. And so, the bottom line is, I found that certainty was the basic, fundamental human need of all human beings. The need to be certain you could avoid pain, and that you could have ideally some pleasure or comfort. Think of it as certainty/comfort.

We all want that because without certainty and comfort, we have pain, we have continuous pain. You got damage, continuous damage equals bad. So, it's actually survival instinct. The difference though, is I started, as I went through these six needs, I started seeing everybody has them. But as I will describe them to you really fast, there is a difference. And the difference is how you value them. For some people, certainty as the number one thing in life. If you change anything, they get upset. If you move things on their desk, they freak out. You change the time, they freak out.

That's an example of certainty. Some people get their certainty by doing the same thing every day. Some people get certainty by trusting God's going to guide them. Some people get certainty because they've screwed up so much in the past and they still came out finding a way, and their brain goes, "I know I'll find a way, but I don't know what it is." Some people get certainty by smoking a cigarette because they're all stressed out and they take a breath, when they breathe in, it makes them comfortable and certain, right? Even though they're killing themselves. Some people get certainty by eating food for comfort.

So, everybody has the need. The only two differences in human beings are, what's the order of importance for you that's going to completely change your direction in life? If you're certainty driven, you're going to be moving this direction away from the challenge. If you're uncertainty driven, meaning it's higher value for you, you're going to be going straight at it. And direction determines ultimate destination or destiny. So, once I know your direction, I know where you're going. I know what challenges you're going to face, I know what opportunities you’re going to have. Okay?

So, the difference is, different orders and different rules. Some people, I got to do the same thing to be certain. Other people, I've just got to trust in God and I'm certain. Right? Very different. Some people work out to be certain. They get that strength in their body, they're ready to rock and roll again. We restored their certainty or their comfort. Some people eat to do it. Some of these ways you do are neutral. They don't affect you either way. They're just okay. Some actually have a negative impact, like smoking a cigarette. Some have a positive impact, like let's say trusting in God perhaps, if you believe in that, or working out certainly does. All right?

So, the second human need though, outside of certainty is uncertainty, just so your audience knows. Uncertainty, variety, we all need surprise. I ask people at events, "Who here loves surprises?" Everybody raises their hand and says, "I." I say, "Bullshit. You like the surprises you want, right? The surprises you don't want, you call problems." But we need some variety, we need surprise to feel alive. Too much variety, people freak out. Too much certainty, people are bored out of their mind. So, are you in the lukewarm middle? No. You got to learn how to use both.

Third human need, the need for significance, the need to feel unique, special, important. Everybody has it, including the people saying, "I don't want to be significant." What they're really saying is, "I don't want to be judged. I don't want anybody to be upset with me if I'm significant." Right? But some people get significance by working harder than anybody else. Some people do it by studying the Bible or Bhagavad Gita or whatever.

Some people get that certainty by way of how they dress or their tattoos, or some people do it by money. Some people do it by being more generous. There's a million ways you can be significant or important to people or to feel needed. We all have the need. The only question is, how do you need it, and is it number one, two, three, four, five, changes how you're going to end up in one.

Fourth, the need for love and connection. Everyone wants love and connection. Everyone needs it, whether they want it or not. Most people settle for connection because love is just too scary. And then, those first four needs, as you know, are the needs of the personality. We all need certainty to survive. We all need variety to feel alive. We all need some feeling of significance. And we all need some feeling of love. When a person feels completely insignificant to anyone, and unloved, that's when they start thinking about checking out. That's when someone will consider suicide, where there's no compelling future for them.

So, these needs are critical, but almost everybody meets them. Somebody meets the needs by smoking and then tearing other people down. You can feel important by making other people less important. If I move you down, I have the illusion I'm moving up. It doesn't really work long-term but it works for the moment. Sugar feels good for the moment, long-term it doesn't feel good. So, you can meet your needs in positive ways, neutral or negative, but everyone finds a way to meet their needs to some extent.

But the ultimate needs that you described were five and six. You got to grow to feel alive. We grow or we die. Like I just said, progress equals happiness, right? And we grow so we have something to give, because if we contribute in a meaningful way, we feel more alive. So, a lot of people jump on and go, "I want to grow and give, grow and give." Which is, there's zero wrong with that. I think it's fantastic. But like the example I gave you from India, your certainty is often tied to your access to food and shelter, and a quality of life, and maybe a certain amount of income to provide for your family. Right?

So, yes, you do need to honor those, but everyone's different. Some people value love as the number one thing and they move in this direction. Some people value significance, and they go in a different direction, because the more you demand significance, the less love you usually get. Right? Because people have been pushed off by it. If somebody wants totally certain, they go in one direction. If they want variety, they go in a different direction.

Again, direction determines your ultimate destination or destiny. So, when I know which one are your top two, I know how your life is going to turn out. And then I ask questions to find out, what does it take for you to feel significant? Do you have to make a billion dollars or pray to God and feel the connection? Walk out and go for a run by the ocean and feel the universe with you. Everyone has different ways. Once I know what you want and how you go about getting it, I know your opportunities, I know your challenges, and I know how to coach you.

So, your question though, was... to be specific, I had to give that context so everyone knows what we're talking about, is, okay, I want to grow and contribute because those are the spiritual needs. Those are the ones most people miss. That's what makes you most fulfilled. But I still got to do these other four things and they're really easy to do. So, I think of it as saying, "Find your vehicle, find what's going to give you that economic security and idea, and economic independence. Again, when you're not chasing money, money might be start chasing you. That's an important part. You have to work your off and refine it. Science of achievement.

Along the way, make sure you find the variety, the pleasure of the uniqueness of everything you're doing, and stopping and bringing it in. Every morning I do a process where I think of three things I'm most grateful for and I experience them fully, and then I think of a blessing and send the blessing to all my family and friends. And then I think of what I'm going to accomplish next. And that sets up plenty of that variety and certainty. Significance. You know, the most significant thing to me is love. But it's like, what am I doing that matters? Let me do some things that matter today. Love. What can I do that's kind? The fastest way to love is to give love, right? Fastest way to kindness is give kindness in a world where the world is pretty divided now, but it's still pretty magical when somebody does it authentically.

So, it's not hard to meet the first four needs. Growing and contributing. That's where you're going to feel the most fulfilled. So, when people go through these challenges, what I always try to do is, I don't just give them the skill, I give them the emotion to follow through because otherwise you can know what to do and not do what you know anyway. So, that's kind of the way I try to balance it. Again, science of achievement and art of fulfillment, and just be aware of them both and focusing on both instead of just one.

Russell: Yeah. Oh, I love that. I think for me, it was interesting because I noticed that when I was struggling to contribute or grow, it was because something was out of whack. I wasn't getting my love and connection or I wasn't feeling significant or something wasn't in place. And when I got to the point where I could figure out, okay, here's ways to make sure that I'm feeling these needs in a positive way, not a negative way, then it takes that pressure off. And I was like, "Now I can go grow. Now I can contribute. Now I can do things." I've noticed even nowadays, if it gets out of whack again, it's like I got to make sure all these things are spinning and I can go back and I can show up at a level that I can't when these things aren't running the right way.

Tony: Yeah, that makes total sense.

Russell: Yeah. Cool. My next question, this is going to kind of transition a little more to the challenge now. Obviously, a lot of people who are in your world and my world, they're coming because the growth, right? They're learning and they're learning, and they're growing, and that part's so much fun for all of us. The growth part is addicting. And I think that's why people love reading books and going through courses and all sorts of stuff. But I know for me, the real growth didn't come from me in this growth phase where I was learning stuff, it's as I started contributing and started helping other people. For me it was, I was starting my business, I was teaching other people. And that's when I first started to really connect with that contribution and that part of it.

I know that that's one of the big things that this challenge is about, is getting people from a growth phase to, now how do you contribute? How do you take this knowledge and these ideas and the things that you're developing and learning, and how do you use them to serve other people? And I'd love for you to talk just a little about that transition, of how we transition from a growth mindset to, here's how I can contribute with these gifts that we've been given.

Tony: I think the challenge is called Own Your Future Challenge, that we're doing. And it's myself and Dean and an army of just great friends of ours who are smart. The focus here is execution. It's not just about more learning and growing in this one. It's like showing you, you've got some knowledge. Someone you care about, bless you, has knowledge and you can take that knowledge and bring it to people in a world, even when it's shut down. I mean, my business, I've got 80 companies plus now, but my core mission with my business is Robbins Research, where I did my events and I've done my events. I mean, they literally, they made what I did illegal because the size of it. I'd do minimum, it'd be 10,000, most of them 15, 12,000 people, somewhere in that range. And all of a sudden, they made it illegal in every country in the world that I wanted to go to.

Australia, London, Italy, France, everywhere, America, all over the place. And so, I had to figure out what to do. But I've got to tell you, I'm reaching more people now, and I'm doing it in a different way. You know? So, the tools to be able to reach people all over the earth, I mean, four billion people are on the internet now and we're going to see another two billion join over the next five or 10 years. Almost 50% more people are going to join the internet. The size of the marketplace of people you can serve is unbelievable. But you have to be able to get the skills and you got to get yourself to execute.

A lot of people, as you said, get addicted to just the learning experience, which is the aha moments, like, "Oh my God, I understand that. That makes sense. Oh, I can change the world with that." But you know, I was very lucky, Jim Rowan was my original teacher, the personal development speaker. Some of your listeners probably know his name. He's been passed away for some time, but he used to always say, "Tony, don't let your learning lead to knowledge and become a fool." He said, "Let your learning lead to action." And he'd tell you to become wealthy. And to him, wealthy wasn't just money. It was like an extraordinary life. It was living life on your terms. It was life that was full of joy and happiness and fulfillment and meaning and economic freedom.

And I think that's what we're really looking to do with people in this challenge, is show them the tools to execute. Yes, you can have the excitement of learning all this stuff and there's no charge for the fricking thing. It's these challenges, my last one I'm going to do this year. I did two this year. But I wanted to do it with my friends because I wanted people to have a vehicle. A lot of people don't have that first Artha. They don't have a vehicle for prosperity and security. And they're looking at a world where the world's changed, it's upside down and it's not going to go back to exactly how it was. Some things will return, obviously. But a lot of them aren't.

And so, your job is to figure out, "What am I going to do now?" And so, where are you going to figure that out? So, we decided to bring the best people we know together to show you and show you how to use technology to do things in minutes. When I started out in this business, I mean, it took months to pull off. But literally the technology can do things for you today, as we all know. And so, I'm very excited about we're going to be able to offer people.

But in a few days, they're not just going to have more knowledge and excitement, they're going to have perhaps a business or at least the beginnings of a business. And maybe even be online starting that out all in the few days of the challenge. So, that's the difference I think we're really focused on here, is making sure that... I always tell people, knowledge is not power. Knowledge is potential power. Execution beats and trumps knowledge every day of the week. That's our goal, is to get people to really each day, make some small actions, so by the end of the challenge, they're really in a place of having their business, or if they had a business, taking it to another level.

Russell: Yeah. Well, I'm excited for the challenge. I'm going to be flying out to Phoenix and hanging out with you and Dean and everybody for one of the days.

Tony: Looking forward to that.

Russell: And I'm actually bringing my twin boys. My twin boys are 15 years old and I'm trying to show them how to control their future. So, they're going to come and sit there and experience it. And then, we're actually going to go out afterwards with some friends and we're going to go and feed the homeless and spend some time, and just showing them some really cool experiences after the challenge. So, I'm excited for it because I'll be participating in it as a student, and also as a one of the teachers as well.

Tony: I just want to say something about you too, Russell, to your audience. You know, a lot of people virtual saying, "I'm going to go feed somebody," but you do this all the time, just like I do. It's not like something you do and then tell people you're doing it. You're just really doing it. And I love that you share it. Same reason I used to never share what I did in this area. But then I start realizing it inspires people to consider something new. And we're not doing it because we're just such good people. We're doing it because it's so fulfilling to do something for someone you don't even know. It's people don't understand what that does to you, to just do what's right. It doesn't have to be 24 hours a day. And especially doing it with your kids so they get addicted to it at an early age. I really honor you for that.

Russell: Oh, thanks. I'm excited. It's going to be a fun experience. It's going to be a new experience for them. I think it's going to be awesome. Well, for those who are listening, if you're watching the video, there will probably be a link down below. But if you're listening, the sign up link to go sign up for the challenge, if you go to takethechallenge.com, that's where you can go sign up for the challenge through our link. And we've got a bunch of really cool bonuses and stuff for everybody who gets involved and hangs out. But that's where everything will be at, at takethechallenge.com. And if you do that, you have a chance to hang out with Tony and me and Dean and Jenna. And I don't even know.

You have some amazing speakers that are part of this, people that only Tony could bring into the world, nobody else would say yes to be part of this. He's got some amazing people who he has a chance to come and hang out with and participate and learn how to start your own business. How to start going from this, from a growth mindset to contribution. "How do I create a business that serves other people?" I think I never understood that was what business was really about until honestly, probably the last seven or eight years since I started running ClickFunnels, and I seen, when you create a business and you help other people, that contribution, you see how people's lives are changed.

I'm not talking about my own. I'm talking about people who've used ClickFunnels. You know, one of my favorite success stories inside of our ClickFunnels community is a couple named Brandon and Kaelin Poulin. And they were young, 22, 23-year-old couple when they came into our world, and she's really good at losing weight. And she took her knowledge and her experience, and now they've helped over a million women to lose weight.

Tony: Wow.

Russell: They've built a huge company that's 70, 80 employees now. And they're changing the lives of so many people and it's one person, one person taking their knowledge, turning it into something they can contribute. And it literally, the ripple effect of that is huge. You look at a million women, that's amazing, but those women have families and kids and communities they serve. And that ripple effects keeps going out. And that's just one person. And so, you never know where it's going to turn until you take that knowledge and turn it to something amazing.

Tony: You think about where we are today, because of technology you can do that so fast. Try doing that 20 years ago. Trust me, it was a very different process. So, the possibility of that kind of impact is there. So, it all comes down to having an orientation that realizes that the only way to get wealthy is do more for other people than anybody else is doing, and do it consistently. And of course, if you add that much value, you'll have value that's added to you as well. But learning how to do that quickly, efficiently, step-by-step, that's what this challenge course is about. So, we look forward to seeing you guys there.

Russell: That's awesome. Well, thank you, Tony. Thank you everybody. Again, go to takethechallenge.com, get signed up and we'll see you guys live here in a couple of days. So, thanks Tony. I appreciate you.

Tony: Thank you, buddy.

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]]> 2419 no "Outwitting The Devil" with Josh Forti - Part 3 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/outwitting-the-devil-with-josh-forti-part-3-of-3 Here is the exciting final part of this special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh talk quite a bit about the new book Russell is currently working on! The new book will be the first (of possibly many) personal development book that Russell has written. We also get to hear why Russell loves to write books and why he thinks everyone should write one. So listen in to the final part of Russell and Josh’s “Outwitting The Devil” interview. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the third and final episode from the Outwitting The Devil interview with Josh Forti. Hopefully you enjoyed the first two episodes. If you missed any of them, go back and listen to episode one, two and this is part three of three. In this one, Josh started asking me questions about my new books. Why I was so excited about Outwitting The Devil, by how I'm using this? Why I'm writing my fourth book and a bunch of other really cool things. So I hope you enjoy it. And you've enjoyed this interview series, please let me know, let Josh know. The best way to do that is take a picture of any of these on your phone, post them on your social media and tag me and him and let us know what you thought about the episodes. Thanks again, you guys. I appreciate you all for listening with that said, let's queue up the exciting conclusion of the Josh Forti, Russell Brunson Outwitting The Devil Podcast interview. Josh Forti: Okay. I want to do this because we're talking about all these amazing books and I don't know, this is probably like two, three weeks ago. Maybe it's a little bit longer that. You start hinting on Instagram about this book. And I'm like, "Oh my gosh. There's another book? What could it possibly be?" And then last week I'm out here and you started telling me about it and what it is. Russell: Showing you the deal. Josh: It's not a marketing book. It's the next piece and it's your first ever... And I don't want to spoil it for them. I'm going to say it's like your first ever take at personal development. Talk to us about this book. When's it coming out? How did this come about and the details of that, because I'm super, super excited for it. Russell: I think it was my only, hopefully. But I said that about Dot Com Secrets too. Josh: I don't believe that at all. There's going to be a trilogy for... Russell you're going to be writing books till you die dude. Russell: I don't know. Writing is so painful but this one, again, it's me coming back. We launched Traffic Secrets. The world goes chaotic and I have more time and I'm trying to just occupy my mind. Josh: Which by the way, how perfect time. My heart was completely broken when you had to cancel the Traffic Secrets event because I was supposed to speak to there. I was like, "No." But how perfect of a timing was Traffic Secrets when- Russell: There are pros and cons of it. It was really good from a selling book standpoint. It was really hard for making New York times bestseller list, which we actually hit, which I'm still freaked out about. It was tough because Amazon wasn't shipping books. Things weren't shipped, all sorts of chaos. They said books weren't essential and so like it was hard to hit lists because you'd sell 10,000 copies of books in a week but Amazon was waiting two, three, four weeks to ship them because it wasn't... The way that the lists work is, how many did you sell in retail outlets? How many do you sell on USA today? All the things. And so when you have the big push, but then some books aren't being counted four or five weeks later because Amazon doesn't consider them essential. They're not sure when they can glut. Normally it takes 10,000 books or something to hit a bestseller list. We hit over 100,000 to be able to do it. It was way harder, way more stressful, but we got it. But it was easier to sell because I had more time. Anyway, a lot of pros with that. Plus it was crazy because in the beginning of the book I talked about there's a storm coming and then literally it was like, we're in the middle it. You should give this book right now... Josh: Literally right now. Russell: I think I'm similar to you. I think a lot of people in our community where it's just like, my mind is always spinning. I can't stop. Josh: I cannot shut it off ever. Russell: It's like there's got to be something I got to be thinking about. And again, it was harder me to find stuff for me to geek out on inside of marketing and business. It was just hard to find the next... I don't know. Every level you get to, it's harder to find the next level. I'm sure there's time where Michael Jordan's like, "I can't find people to push me anymore." Where do you go? And it's just like- Josh: Yeah. Like Tom Brady in the NFL just completely dominating every team that's out there. Yeah. That's right. Russell: Anyway. So not that I'm that level or anything. Josh: Right. Right. Right. Russell: For me it gets harder and harder- Josh: Likewise. Russell: To find things. I have to dig so hard to find the gold. And so I started just looking again at some of these things. And that's when I stumble on this book and just like, every page is gold and it's like I'm lit up again. I'm on fire. Again, I talked about earlier, for me one of my highest values is ROI. What's my return on my investment. So I'm learning these things. I'm growing myself personally, but I'm feeling empty because I'm not sharing them. So it's like, "What's the platform?" That's why I'm like, "Everyone go read this." I need to have this conversation with somebody. So having Dave reading it, everybody can get to read it I'm trying to read so I can get this conversations. Then when you're like, "Hey, do you want to talk about a podcast?" I said, "Yes." You forged some of this stuff because it's in me and if I can't contribute, it seems like I'm wasting it. And so there was this, there was other things. And I started looking more and more. Right now I've got five kids. Three of my kids are teenagers now and teenagers have been way harder than I ever thought or expected. It's weird. Kids are really fulfilling, but man teenagers have been just... It's different for me. I'm feeling like I have to grow to understand myself, but to also understand them. And what I envisioned my kids as teenagers are going to be what it is, has been so much different. I think for me, at times it got me depression, sadness and these things. And I was like, "I shouldn't be depressed this time in my kid's life. This is the greatest time I could be with them but I got to shift my mind." So it was me trying to do some work on myself, to fix myself. Not fix myself, but to get myself in a spot where I could enjoy the season. And then number two is how do I serve them now at this point? Because I envisioned the way I was going to serve my kids was when my dad did. Where I was like, he drove me to wrestling practice and we traveled the world, we worked out super hard because that's what I needed and I assumed that that's what my kids are going to need and it's not. That's not what they want. They want almost the opposite of those things. I'm like, "But I have these gifts. These skills I can give you." They are like, "I don't want them." I'm like, "I can help you start a business." Like, "We don't care." I get them value money because they've always had it. It's like all these things. Every gift that I have, it's like all my unique abilities I want to give my kids, they don't want it. So I'm learning this thing of well, instead of me trying to give my kids these things that I think that were so valuable to me. It's like, I have to sit back and understand what's actually valuable to them, which is so much harder and I'm learning this process. And so as I'm going through this lens of trying to learn these things, understand them, trying to figure them out for myself and I'm stumbling upon things like this and other things. It just got to a point where I was like, "I need to write this book first off for myself." If anyone who's done it, there's this weird thing as you start reading, you start seeing connections. You don't see any other spot. I feel like God opens up insights to you. They're just magical. Like I remember- Josh: When you start writing. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Yeah 100%. Russell: You have to get deep in a topic, you have studied all these things to figure things out. And I remember the first time I really understood this is, after I finished Traffic Secrets, I wanted to reedit DotCom and an Expert Secrets to publish the trilogy. So I went back. I remember reading those books and I was like, "Where did this stuff come from?" I was like, "This is good crap. I don't remember saying this or thinking that." I couldn't remember and- Josh: Interesting. Russell: It's the weirdest thing going back and fighting things. Somehow that was given to me because that was not something that I just intuitively knew. And I feel like for me, I wanted to start the book journey because I'm searching for these answers. The premise of the book is not, "I have all the answers, let me give them to you." I'm in the season where I'm going through it again and let me share through I'm learning on this journey because I'm learning some amazing things. And as I'm sharing as I'm writing them, again these insights keep popping in and it's fascinating. So I'll be doing something, I'll be doing something and I have a doodle. I'm like, "Oh my gosh." I run to Dave I'm like, "Look at this." He's like, "What am I explaining?" He's like, "I never saw it before." New to that. It showed up when I'm in this intense time. And so it's been fun as I'm writing it because these insights are coming at a speed that they don't normally come in. Josh: And I think also- Russell: It's really funny. Josh: I think... Hold that train of thought. I want you to keep going on that. But I've noticed that as well, when it comes to reading books. Reading a book and then applying the book, those are two very different things. I have read Expert Secrets, Dotcom Secrets, Traffic Secrets. And I'm going through, I've not read the hardcover of Expert Secrets. I've only read the soft cover. So right now I'm going through and yes, two nights ago I started it and it's- Russell: You started the hardcover? Josh: Yeah. I'm going through, I'm listening to it and I'm reading it and I'm taking notes- Russell: Get the hardcovers. They're way better than softcovers. Josh: So I'm going through all this stuff. For the last four or five, six months, all I've been doing, I have no front end products of my own. I'm not building anything. All I'm doing is working with big campaigns on the backend. It's like full out stuff. We're doing stuff with cash phones. All these stuff is up and I'm going through and actually inboxed you. I was like, "Dude. People say they've read this book but they haven't." They've read the words, but it's totally different when you actually experience it. And you're watching where it all fits in and you start to see how it all clicks together. So that broke from the reverse angle of when you're writing it and trying to put it on in together is what you're talking about here. Russell: Yes. It's super fascinating. So it's been fun. I'm excited. So my goal, I'm trying to get it done by summer for it to be a launch in March. So if you published traditionally, this publishing schedule is really, really long. So if you are going to read it in March, I'd have to have it done by June. Josh: If we want to read in March of next year, you have to have it done by June this year. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Dang. Russell: So that's where I'm at. So I'm also with the first section of the book and there's four sections. Back then this month I spent the section number one and then that's where I'm at. Josh: Do we get to know what it's called? Do you have a title yet? Russell: I do. I don't want to show a title yet because I don't want someone going and- Josh: Oh, that's true. Russell: "You guys all suck." And buys those domains up and they start like SEOing me and beating me and all that stuff. But it's going to be cool. It's a study of two things. So I'll give you this part. This is the subtitle. So subtitle, something Tony Robbins talks a lot about, but it's the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. These two things. How do achievers achieve? And then how do you actually get fulfilled? Because it's fascinating. I think- Josh: Interesting. Russell: I see my own life. I achieve something thinking that, "When I achieve this thing, I'm going to be fulfilled and happy and everything." And you achieve the thing and you're like, "I'm not happy." And you figure that achievement and fulfillment, they don't work hand in hand. It's a science of achievement, which that's why science achieves more scrutiny. It's like, "Here's a step-by-step process to get this result." I want to be state champion wrestler here's a step by step process. Boom, got it. I want to be a known American step-by-step process. Got it. I want to start a business, step-by-step. Science. It's not thinking, you just follow a process and you get it. So for me, achievements always come easy. Anything I ever want in my life I've achieved it because there's a science. I figured out. Fulfillment's art, it's different. It's not follow these steps and you become fulfilled. The yin yang of these two things. And it's so fascinating. I've been going deeper into it and seeing the pattern appear over and over and over again, all these different things. And how do you apply it to your life? And there's so many cool things in this book that don't necessarily talk about science of achievement and fulfillment but they're all in here. The patterns in here over and over and over again. So it's pulling it from all these sources and showing it to everybody, that's what the book's going to do and then how to weave it all into aspects of your life anyway. So that's- Josh: One of the things and I'm sure you'll talk about it, but will be the balance of those two things. Because it's early on in my very young career of being 27 years old, but it was all about achieve, achieve, achieve, achieve. And there's always my mom's voice in the back of my head, it's like, "Things won't make you happy." "I know mom." Russell: Yes they will. Josh: Yeah. Yes they will. And then you get there. There have been moments in my life where right now in this moment I am completely fulfilled or I'm completely content and it's just like, I don't know what could make my life better. And it's not when I achieved anything, it's not when I did anything. But in that moment, whenever I take a step back and think about that moment, I have very little drive to go achieve anything more. And there's that balance of how do I stay fulfilled and content while also being driven to go achieve. Because for me and this is something I'd wrestled with and talked to Katie about it. And I'm like, "It's either one or the other. I can't be..." And she's like, "There's always another option. There's never black and white." And so balancing the two of those and understanding that. Like you said, they don't go hand in hand. They're separate things, I think it's really important and something that I'm trying to figure out and learn. Russell: So I got frustrated about all the times I achieve something and I'm so frustrated, why do I not feel how I thought I was going to feel and leads to depression or frustration or whatever. But when you start separating these are two different things I can achieve and I want to achieve, but how do I get fulfilled in the journey or separately from it and you start anyway. It's been fascinating and learning so many cool things and it's going to be fun to start sharing with everybody. I'm going to probably start in my podcasts, start dropping more and more things then getting deeper and deeper. More of the thoughts are going be flushed out. That's the weird thing about writing a book too, is initially I'm like, "Here's what I'm going to write." I write an outline of what the book is going to be and I write chapter number one. I was like, "Now this outline makes sense. You write that one" Chapter two. And so it's like, it's this rebuild, rebuild, rebuild. And by the time it's done, hopefully we'll find out. It'll be the perfect thing that's like, here's the frameworks you need. And for example, this whole concept here, there's a chapter that's going to be taking the frameworks from this book and this is going to be the chapter walking people through this concept of faith and fear. This doodle is a rough draft. I just tell you I sent this to you today. I'm like, "This is not the perfect doodle. I saw it. I'm not going to post it down below yet because this is partially done." It's going to be perfect by the time the book's done. I'm still thinking through and trying to get it right. And making it a simple form where I can understand it and hopefully it makes it easy for people to apply. But anyway, it's pretty cool. I think everyone should read a book. I think everybody listening should set that as a goal because when you do, just the act of writing the book will change your board. And I think anyone will understand. And when somebody asks, "What are you doing?" You're like, "I'm writing a book." Josh: That sounds very cool. Russell: There's no much cooler than that. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Okay. I know you have a hard cutoff, so I want to be respectful of that here. So I want to end with one question here and that is specifically about reading books. It's interesting. I'm pretty involved in the ClickFunnels world. Those are my people as well too. And so those are the people that follow me and that I interact with and I talk to a lot and it's always interesting when I talk to people about reading versus action. And some people have this... I feel like there's weird thought that if you're a reader, you're not an action taker, which I'm like, "That's not true. That's not how that works." But anyway, for you, if you are early on in your career, early on in you journey of building your business and your funnels and putting everything together. Do you recommend? Going back and thinking of your life, were you a big reader early on? Did you do a lot of reading or were you more action taking and looking back, would you recommend people read more, take more action? What's that balance? Because it's very easy. I know for me, I'm making time to read and then that's all I want to do. I'm like, "This is amazing." And then I'll take action. And so what's that Balance there? And what do you recommend as far as reading versus action? Russell: It's tough because some people read just because you get fulfillment or like there's- Josh: There's a good feeling that comes with reading. Russell: Comes with reading. Josh: For sure. Russell: So- Josh: It's a fake sense of accomplishment. Russell: Yes. So this is my belief. I remember when I first got started, I was reading a lot, I was listening, I was going to seminars. I remember at first it always frustrated because I was learning all this stuff and I was getting it but I had nowhere to use it and I was trying to use it all. That's why I think I launched... I can't remember. A couple of funnels by measure. It was like a 106, 116 or something funnels I launched before ClickFunnels. And that's because every idea that came to me, I was like, "I have to create something." I create this and I create this. I was creating funnel and funnel and coaching program. I joined Dan Kennedy's mastermind and they talked about, "You should have mastermind groups." So at the event I launched a mastermind group. I'm like, "You should have phone sales." We started phone sales and "You should be doing seminars." We launched a seminar. Every idea that came, I launched it. But man, I got a point where I was drowning. Because we had 8,000 things we're doing and nothing really worked. And I remember always feeling guilty because these ideas are coming to me. I'm thinking, "These are gifts from God. These are inspiration. I need to have these things." And it wasn't until... I don't remember when. But somewhere down the line, I realized that, "I don't actually have to take all these different things and do them, but I can understand them." Because I enjoy learning, understanding. So I would take them into my mind and literally put them on a shelf. I remember there's this Dan Kennedy on how to do high ticket, air exclusive program. So when we were listening to it, there's talking about franchise and this. All of a sudden, this is amazing. So I was taking it because I enjoyed the learning of it. And then I was like, "I'm not doing this right now." I'm so stretched thin, but I enjoyed the learning. So I'm flying an airplane, listening to this audio book or whatever. If I'm going to put it over here, I'm just categorizing and I put it over here in my brain. Like, "Hey. If I ever wanted to go back and do that, I know where it's at or at least put over here." So I started learning because I enjoyed learning but I didn't have to implement everything. And I've put things in these different spots. At the same time I had a very clear vision. This is definitive purpose. I had a vision. So I'm trying to execute on something I'm trying to do. So as I'm learning, when something came that crossed my mind I was like, "That's the next step. I could grab it and plug it in and I could use it." If it didn't. I'm like, "That's awesome. Put it right here. Someday I'm going to use that in future." And I talked to… James Friel and I talked about because he has a Trello board. He calls his shiny penny Trello board where anytime you have a great idea- Josh: Yeah. I have one of those. Russell: Instead of trying to implement, he puts it on his Trello boards. Keeps your ideas. I think for most entrepreneurs, every idea is like your baby, like "This is the greatest idea of all time." Josh: Yeah. I have a Trello board called Josh's brain. Russell: Oh awesome. This pre Trello because I remember getting a note card. I had three by five note cards and when I had the ideas, I put them in there, I put them there. And somebody I'm going to come back to this and I get ideas and put them there. I kept putting them there either in a note card or somewhere else. And it's crazy. And I fast forward. Man, I think it's 19 or 20 years, I'm doing this now. So whatever it is. Almost two decades. And it's really cool because when I coach people now and this is my inner circle so I have people in here I'm coaching and someone would appear on stage and they're stuck with a problem and they're frustrated. They're like, "I don't want to do this thing." And all of a sudden out of the back of my mind pops up this thing and it comes into my- Josh: Exactly. Russell: I have this thing. I'm like, "Oh my gosh. Where did that come from?" It's because I learned it. Because I read this book here, I saw this thing over here and all these things. And so I think a lot of times we have to understand that learning is fun. So enjoy it. Don't be like, "I'm not going to read because..." Reading is awesome. Read, learn, do those things, but also understand, what is your mission? Stephen Larson talked about this two funnel hiking lives ago. He called it just-in-time learning. It seems like if you are going to read the book you need... I agree with that except for this is a better pastime than watching movies. So let's read, let's study. But having your path, this is my goal, this is where I'm going to go. If you join my coaching program, we're going to talk about what's the first funnel. That's what we focus on. Don't do anything else, just focus on that. You can learn other things, but categorize them or wait until you're ready. And then as you get pieces right. I need that, I need that and figure out the next steps. I think that's how I would do the yin yang of both of those. Because I'm the same way. I'm learning so many things or study things or I find things are awesome that I'm not going to use but someday there'll be someone I come upon that that nugget is going to be the thing that unlocks something for them and they're going to super grateful. So, anyway. Josh: All right. Well man, thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. This is so much fun. We could talk for hours, but we do have to wrap it up there. We've got a little something to get to, so thank you man. I appreciate it. Russell: No worries. And hopefully all you guys, two things I want to say. Number one, I'd highly recommend reading this book and read through the lens of this. The first time I didn't know where I was going. So I was all over the place and just freaking out. But look at the lens of Faith and Fear of, I don't want to be a drifter. I want to be somebody spiritually, mentally, and physically free. Look at that and start looking at everything he talks about from this lens and just look at it as protections of you that will be there to get to the spot where you're learn 2% or how to keep yourself from becoming a drifter or if you are drifter shift yourself back. And looking at this, because it's this guide book of all the ways that the devil uses to shift you around. And when you're aware of it, man, it makes it so much more powerful. Josh: And- Russell: This is huge. Josh: The thing that I would say we didn't have time to get to it, but I would say too is understand that it's not... If you're religious, understand that there's probably going to be some things that the devil is like, "You don't need God, you don't need me." Some of the things that are going to be in there, like Russell said, 97% is good, 3% is bad. Don't let that prevent you from understanding the value and the power that's in this book because there is so much good stuff in this. And any single time that I've ever had success at anything when I look back, it follows very closely to the principles that were taught here, so anyway. Russell: That's awesome. And then wait until next March to buy my book. Josh: And I will be the number one affiliate. So hopefully you all can be number two, three, four. That's cool. That's going to be super, super cool. So Russell, thank you so much, man. I appreciate it. Love to do it again for The Book of Mormon or something like that and all right. All right guys, that's it. Russell: Thanks everyone. Josh: As always, hustle, hustle. God bless. Don't be afraid to think different because those of us who think different are going to be the ones who change the world. I love you all. See you soon. Russell: Bye everybody. Josh: See you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 May 2021 08:00:00 -0000 "Outwitting The Devil" with Josh Forti - Part 3 of 3 full 411 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is the exciting final part of this special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh talk quite a bit about the new book Russell is currently working on! The new book will be the first (of possibly many) personal development book... Here is the exciting final part of this special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh talk quite a bit about the new book Russell is currently working on! The new book will be the first (of possibly many) personal development book that Russell has written. We also get to hear why Russell loves to write books and why he thinks everyone should write one. So listen in to the final part of Russell and Josh’s “Outwitting The Devil” interview. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the third and final episode from the Outwitting The Devil interview with Josh Forti. Hopefully you enjoyed the first two episodes. If you missed any of them, go back and listen to episode one, two and this is part three of three. In this one, Josh started asking me questions about my new books. Why I was so excited about Outwitting The Devil, by how I'm using this? Why I'm writing my fourth book and a bunch of other really cool things. So I hope you enjoy it. And you've enjoyed this interview series, please let me know, let Josh know. The best way to do that is take a picture of any of these on your phone, post them on your social media and tag me and him and let us know what you thought about the episodes. Thanks again, you guys. I appreciate you all for listening with that said, let's queue up the exciting conclusion of the Josh Forti, Russell Brunson Outwitting The Devil Podcast interview. Josh Forti: Okay. I want to do this because we're talking about all these amazing books and I don't know, this is probably like two, three weeks ago. Maybe it's a little bit longer that. You start hinting on Instagram about this book. And I'm like, "Oh my gosh. There's another book? What could it possibly be?" And then last week I'm out here and you started telling me about it and what it is. Russell: Showing you the deal. Josh: It's not a marketing book. It's the next piece and it's your first ever... And I don't want to spoil it for them. I'm going to say it's like your first ever take at personal development. Talk to us about this book. When's it coming out? How did this come about and the details of that, because I'm super, super excited for it. Russell: I think it was my only, hopefully. But I said that about Dot Com Secrets too. Josh: I don't believe that at all. There's going to be a trilogy for... Russell you're going to be writing books till you die dude. Russell: I don't know. Writing is so painful but this one, again, it's me coming back. We launched Traffic Secrets. The world goes chaotic and I have more time and I'm trying to just occupy my mind. Josh: Which by the way, how perfect time. My heart was completely broken when you had to cancel the Traffic Secrets event because I was supposed to speak to there. I was like, "No." But how perfect of a timing was Traffic Secrets when- Russell: There are pros and cons of it. It was really good from a selling book standpoint. It was really hard for making New York times bestseller list, which we actually hit, which I'm still freaked out about. It was tough because Amazon wasn't shipping books. Things weren't shipped, all sorts of chaos. They said books weren't essential and so like it was hard to hit lists because you'd sell 10,000 copies of books in a week but Amazon was waiting two, three, four weeks to ship them because it wasn't... The way that the lists work is, how many did you sell in retail outlets? How many do you sell on USA today? All the things. And so when you have the big push, but then some books aren't being counted four or five weeks later because Amazon doesn't consider them essential. They're not sure when they can glut. Normally it takes 10,000 books or something to hit a bestseller list. We hit over 100,000 to be able to do it. It was way harder, way more stressful, but we got it. But it was easier to sell because I had more time. Anyway, a lot of pros with that. Plus it was crazy because in the beginning of the book I talked about there's a storm coming and then literally it was like, we're in the middle it. You should give this book right now... Josh: Literally right now. Russell: I think I'm similar to you. I think a lot of people in our community where it's just like, my mind is always spinning. I can't stop. Josh: I cannot shut it off ever. Russell: It's like there's got to be something I got to be thinking about. And again, it was harder me to find stuff for me to geek out on inside of marketing and business. It was just hard to find the next... I don't know. Every level you get to, it's harder to find the next level. I'm sure there's time where Michael Jordan's like, "I can't find people to push me anymore." Where do you go? And it's just like- Josh: Yeah. Like Tom Brady in the NFL just completely dominating every team that's out there. Yeah. That's right. Russell: Anyway. So not that I'm that level or anything. Josh: Right. Right. Right. Russell: For me it gets harder and harder- Josh: Likewise. Russell: To find things. I have to dig so hard to find the gold. And so I started just looking again at some of these things. And that's when I stumble on this book and just like, every page is gold and it's like I'm lit up again. I'm on fire. Again, I talked about earlier, for me one of my highest values is ROI. What's my return on my investment. So I'm learning these things. I'm growing myself personally, but I'm feeling empty because I'm not sharing them. So it's like, "What's the platform?" That's why I'm like, "Everyone go read this." I need to have this conversation with somebody. So having Dave reading it, everybody can get to read it I'm trying to read so I can get this conversations. Then when you're like, "Hey, do you want to talk about a podcast?" I said, "Yes." You forged some of this stuff because it's in me and if I can't contribute, it seems like I'm wasting it. And so there was this, there was other things. And I started looking more and more. Right now I've got five kids. Three of my kids are teenagers now and teenagers have been way harder than I ever thought or expected. It's weird. Kids are really fulfilling, but man teenagers have been just... It's different for me. I'm feeling like I have to grow to understand myself, but to also understand them. And what I envisioned my kids as teenagers are going to be what it is, has been so much different. I think for me, at times it got me depression, sadness and these things. And I was like, "I shouldn't be depressed this time in my kid's life. This is the greatest time I could be with them but I got to shift my mind." So it was me trying to do some work on myself, to fix myself. Not fix myself, but to get myself in a spot where I could enjoy the season. And then number two is how do I serve them now at this point? Because I envisioned the way I was going to serve my kids was when my dad did. Where I was like, he drove me to wrestling practice and we traveled the world, we worked out super hard because that's what I needed and I assumed that that's what my kids are going to need and it's not. That's not what they want. They want almost the opposite of those things. I'm like, "But I have these gifts. These skills I can give you." They are like, "I don't want them." I'm like, "I can help you start a business." Like, "We don't care." I get them value money because they've always had it. It's like all these things. Every gift that I have, it's like all my unique abilities I want to give my kids, they don't want it. So I'm learning this thing of well, instead of me trying to give my kids these things that I think that were so valuable to me. It's like, I have to sit back and understand what's actually valuable to them, which is so much harder and I'm learning this process. And so as I'm going through this lens of trying to learn these things, understand them, trying to figure them out for myself and I'm stumbling upon things like this and other things. It just got to a point where I was like, "I need to write this book first off for myself." If anyone who's done it, there's this weird thing as you start reading, you start seeing connections. You don't see any other spot. I feel like God opens up insights to you. They're just magical. Like I remember- Josh: When you start writing. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Yeah 100%. Russell: You have to get deep in a topic, you have studied all these things to figure things out. And I remember the first time I really understood this is, after I finished Traffic Secrets, I wanted to reedit DotCom and an Expert Secrets to publish the trilogy. So I went back. I remember reading those books and I was like, "Where did this stuff come from?" I was like, "This is good crap. I don't remember saying this or thinking that." I couldn't remember and- Josh: Interesting. Russell: It's the weirdest thing going back and fighting things. Somehow that was given to me because that was not something that I just intuitively knew. And I feel like for me, I wanted to start the book journey because I'm searching for these answers. The premise of the book is not, "I have all the answers, let me give them to you." I'm in the season where I'm going through it again and let me share through I'm learning on this journey because I'm learning some amazing things. And as I'm sharing as I'm writing them, again these insights keep popping in and it's fascinating. So I'll be doing something, I'll be doing something and I have a doodle. I'm like, "Oh my gosh." I run to Dave I'm like, "Look at this." He's like, "What am I explaining?" He's like, "I never saw it before." New to that. It showed up when I'm in this intense time. And so it's been fun as I'm writing it because these insights are coming at a speed that they don't normally come in. Josh: And I think also- Russell: It's really funny. Josh: I think... Hold that train of thought. I want you to keep going on that. But I've noticed that as well, when it comes to reading books. Reading a book and then applying the book, those are two very different things. I have read Expert Secrets, Dotcom Secrets, Traffic Secrets. And I'm going through, I've not read the hardcover of Expert Secrets. I've only read the soft cover. So right now I'm going through and yes, two nights ago I started it and it's- Russell: You started the hardcover? Josh: Yeah. I'm going through, I'm listening to it and I'm reading it and I'm taking notes- Russell: Get the hardcovers. They're way better than softcovers. Josh: So I'm going through all this stuff. For the last four or five, six months, all I've been doing, I have no front end products of my own. I'm not building anything. All I'm doing is working with big campaigns on the backend. It's like full out stuff. We're doing stuff with cash phones. All these stuff is up and I'm going through and actually inboxed you. I was like, "Dude. People say they've read this book but they haven't." They've read the words, but it's totally different when you actually experience it. And you're watching where it all fits in and you start to see how it all clicks together. So that broke from the reverse angle of when you're writing it and trying to put it on in together is what you're talking about here. Russell: Yes. It's super fascinating. So it's been fun. I'm excited. So my goal, I'm trying to get it done by summer for it to be a launch in March. So if you published traditionally, this publishing schedule is really, really long. So if you are going to read it in March, I'd have to have it done by June. Josh: If we want to read in March of next year, you have to have it done by June this year. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Dang. Russell: So that's where I'm at. So I'm also with the first section of the book and there's four sections. Back then this month I spent the section number one and then that's where I'm at. Josh: Do we get to know what it's called? Do you have a title yet? Russell: I do. I don't want to show a title yet because I don't want someone going and- Josh: Oh, that's true. Russell: "You guys all suck." And buys those domains up and they start like SEOing me and beating me and all that stuff. But it's going to be cool. It's a study of two things. So I'll give you this part. This is the subtitle. So subtitle, something Tony Robbins talks a lot about, but it's the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. These two things. How do achievers achieve? And then how do you actually get fulfilled? Because it's fascinating. I think- Josh: Interesting. Russell: I see my own life. I achieve something thinking that, "When I achieve this thing, I'm going to be fulfilled and happy and everything." And you achieve the thing and you're like, "I'm not happy." And you figure that achievement and fulfillment, they don't work hand in hand. It's a science of achievement, which that's why science achieves more scrutiny. It's like, "Here's a step-by-step process to get this result." I want to be state champion wrestler here's a step by step process. Boom, got it. I want to be a known American step-by-step process. Got it. I want to start a business, step-by-step. Science. It's not thinking, you just follow a process and you get it. So for me, achievements always come easy. Anything I ever want in my life I've achieved it because there's a science. I figured out. Fulfillment's art, it's different. It's not follow these steps and you become fulfilled. The yin yang of these two things. And it's so fascinating. I've been going deeper into it and seeing the pattern appear over and over and over again, all these different things. And how do you apply it to your life? And there's so many cool things in this book that don't necessarily talk about science of achievement and fulfillment but they're all in here. The patterns in here over and over and over again. So it's pulling it from all these sources and showing it to everybody, that's what the book's going to do and then how to weave it all into aspects of your life anyway. So that's- Josh: One of the things and I'm sure you'll talk about it, but will be the balance of those two things. Because it's early on in my very young career of being 27 years old, but it was all about achieve, achieve, achieve, achieve. And there's always my mom's voice in the back of my head, it's like, "Things won't make you happy." "I know mom." Russell: Yes they will. Josh: Yeah. Yes they will. And then you get there. There have been moments in my life where right now in this moment I am completely fulfilled or I'm completely content and it's just like, I don't know what could make my life better. And it's not when I achieved anything, it's not when I did anything. But in that moment, whenever I take a step back and think about that moment, I have very little drive to go achieve anything more. And there's that balance of how do I stay fulfilled and content while also being driven to go achieve. Because for me and this is something I'd wrestled with and talked to Katie about it. And I'm like, "It's either one or the other. I can't be..." And she's like, "There's always another option. There's never black and white." And so balancing the two of those and understanding that. Like you said, they don't go hand in hand. They're separate things, I think it's really important and something that I'm trying to figure out and learn. Russell: So I got frustrated about all the times I achieve something and I'm so frustrated, why do I not feel how I thought I was going to feel and leads to depression or frustration or whatever. But when you start separating these are two different things I can achieve and I want to achieve, but how do I get fulfilled in the journey or separately from it and you start anyway. It's been fascinating and learning so many cool things and it's going to be fun to start sharing with everybody. I'm going to probably start in my podcasts, start dropping more and more things then getting deeper and deeper. More of the thoughts are going be flushed out. That's the weird thing about writing a book too, is initially I'm like, "Here's what I'm going to write." I write an outline of what the book is going to be and I write chapter number one. I was like, "Now this outline makes sense. You write that one" Chapter two. And so it's like, it's this rebuild, rebuild, rebuild. And by the time it's done, hopefully we'll find out. It'll be the perfect thing that's like, here's the frameworks you need. And for example, this whole concept here, there's a chapter that's going to be taking the frameworks from this book and this is going to be the chapter walking people through this concept of faith and fear. This doodle is a rough draft. I just tell you I sent this to you today. I'm like, "This is not the perfect doodle. I saw it. I'm not going to post it down below yet because this is partially done." It's going to be perfect by the time the book's done. I'm still thinking through and trying to get it right. And making it a simple form where I can understand it and hopefully it makes it easy for people to apply. But anyway, it's pretty cool. I think everyone should read a book. I think everybody listening should set that as a goal because when you do, just the act of writing the book will change your board. And I think anyone will understand. And when somebody asks, "What are you doing?" You're like, "I'm writing a book." Josh: That sounds very cool. Russell: There's no much cooler than that. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Okay. I know you have a hard cutoff, so I want to be respectful of that here. So I want to end with one question here and that is specifically about reading books. It's interesting. I'm pretty involved in the ClickFunnels world. Those are my people as well too. And so those are the people that follow me and that I interact with and I talk to a lot and it's always interesting when I talk to people about reading versus action. And some people have this... I feel like there's weird thought that if you're a reader, you're not an action taker, which I'm like, "That's not true. That's not how that works." But anyway, for you, if you are early on in your career, early on in you journey of building your business and your funnels and putting everything together. Do you recommend? Going back and thinking of your life, were you a big reader early on? Did you do a lot of reading or were you more action taking and looking back, would you recommend people read more, take more action? What's that balance? Because it's very easy. I know for me, I'm making time to read and then that's all I want to do. I'm like, "This is amazing." And then I'll take action. And so what's that Balance there? And what do you recommend as far as reading versus action? Russell: It's tough because some people read just because you get fulfillment or like there's- Josh: There's a good feeling that comes with reading. Russell: Comes with reading. Josh: For sure. Russell: So- Josh: It's a fake sense of accomplishment. Russell: Yes. So this is my belief. I remember when I first got started, I was reading a lot, I was listening, I was going to seminars. I remember at first it always frustrated because I was learning all this stuff and I was getting it but I had nowhere to use it and I was trying to use it all. That's why I think I launched... I can't remember. A couple of funnels by measure. It was like a 106, 116 or something funnels I launched before ClickFunnels. And that's because every idea that came to me, I was like, "I have to create something." I create this and I create this. I was creating funnel and funnel and coaching program. I joined Dan Kennedy's mastermind and they talked about, "You should have mastermind groups." So at the event I launched a mastermind group. I'm like, "You should have phone sales." We started phone sales and "You should be doing seminars." We launched a seminar. Every idea that came, I launched it. But man, I got a point where I was drowning. Because we had 8,000 things we're doing and nothing really worked. And I remember always feeling guilty because these ideas are coming to me. I'm thinking, "These are gifts from God. These are inspiration. I need to have these things." And it wasn't until... I don't remember when. But somewhere down the line, I realized that, "I don't actually have to take all these different things and do them, but I can understand them." Because I enjoy learning, understanding. So I would take them into my mind and literally put them on a shelf. I remember there's this Dan Kennedy on how to do high ticket, air exclusive program. So when we were listening to it, there's talking about franchise and this. All of a sudden, this is amazing. So I was taking it because I enjoyed the learning of it. And then I was like, "I'm not doing this right now." I'm so stretched thin, but I enjoyed the learning. So I'm flying an airplane, listening to this audio book or whatever. If I'm going to put it over here, I'm just categorizing and I put it over here in my brain. Like, "Hey. If I ever wanted to go back and do that, I know where it's at or at least put over here." So I started learning because I enjoyed learning but I didn't have to implement everything. And I've put things in these different spots. At the same time I had a very clear vision. This is definitive purpose. I had a vision. So I'm trying to execute on something I'm trying to do. So as I'm learning, when something came that crossed my mind I was like, "That's the next step. I could grab it and plug it in and I could use it." If it didn't. I'm like, "That's awesome. Put it right here. Someday I'm going to use that in future." And I talked to… James Friel and I talked about because he has a Trello board. He calls his shiny penny Trello board where anytime you have a great idea- Josh: Yeah. I have one of those. Russell: Instead of trying to implement, he puts it on his Trello boards. Keeps your ideas. I think for most entrepreneurs, every idea is like your baby, like "This is the greatest idea of all time." Josh: Yeah. I have a Trello board called Josh's brain. Russell: Oh awesome. This pre Trello because I remember getting a note card. I had three by five note cards and when I had the ideas, I put them in there, I put them there. And somebody I'm going to come back to this and I get ideas and put them there. I kept putting them there either in a note card or somewhere else. And it's crazy. And I fast forward. Man, I think it's 19 or 20 years, I'm doing this now. So whatever it is. Almost two decades. And it's really cool because when I coach people now and this is my inner circle so I have people in here I'm coaching and someone would appear on stage and they're stuck with a problem and they're frustrated. They're like, "I don't want to do this thing." And all of a sudden out of the back of my mind pops up this thing and it comes into my- Josh: Exactly. Russell: I have this thing. I'm like, "Oh my gosh. Where did that come from?" It's because I learned it. Because I read this book here, I saw this thing over here and all these things. And so I think a lot of times we have to understand that learning is fun. So enjoy it. Don't be like, "I'm not going to read because..." Reading is awesome. Read, learn, do those things, but also understand, what is your mission? Stephen Larson talked about this two funnel hiking lives ago. He called it just-in-time learning. It seems like if you are going to read the book you need... I agree with that except for this is a better pastime than watching movies. So let's read, let's study. But having your path, this is my goal, this is where I'm going to go. If you join my coaching program, we're going to talk about what's the first funnel. That's what we focus on. Don't do anything else, just focus on that. You can learn other things, but categorize them or wait until you're ready. And then as you get pieces right. I need that, I need that and figure out the next steps. I think that's how I would do the yin yang of both of those. Because I'm the same way. I'm learning so many things or study things or I find things are awesome that I'm not going to use but someday there'll be someone I come upon that that nugget is going to be the thing that unlocks something for them and they're going to super grateful. So, anyway. Josh: All right. Well man, thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. This is so much fun. We could talk for hours, but we do have to wrap it up there. We've got a little something to get to, so thank you man. I appreciate it. Russell: No worries. And hopefully all you guys, two things I want to say. Number one, I'd highly recommend reading this book and read through the lens of this. The first time I didn't know where I was going. So I was all over the place and just freaking out. But look at the lens of Faith and Fear of, I don't want to be a drifter. I want to be somebody spiritually, mentally, and physically free. Look at that and start looking at everything he talks about from this lens and just look at it as protections of you that will be there to get to the spot where you're learn 2% or how to keep yourself from becoming a drifter or if you are drifter shift yourself back. And looking at this, because it's this guide book of all the ways that the devil uses to shift you around. And when you're aware of it, man, it makes it so much more powerful. Josh: And- Russell: This is huge. Josh: The thing that I would say we didn't have time to get to it, but I would say too is understand that it's not... If you're religious, understand that there's probably going to be some things that the devil is like, "You don't need God, you don't need me." Some of the things that are going to be in there, like Russell said, 97% is good, 3% is bad. Don't let that prevent you from understanding the value and the power that's in this book because there is so much good stuff in this. And any single time that I've ever had success at anything when I look back, it follows very closely to the principles that were taught here, so anyway. Russell: That's awesome. And then wait until next March to buy my book. Josh: And I will be the number one affiliate. So hopefully you all can be number two, three, four. That's cool. That's going to be super, super cool. So Russell, thank you so much, man. I appreciate it. Love to do it again for The Book of Mormon or something like that and all right. All right guys, that's it. Russell: Thanks everyone. Josh: As always, hustle, hustle. God bless. Don't be afraid to think different because those of us who think different are going to be the ones who change the world. I love you all. See you soon. Russell: Bye everybody. Josh: See you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is the exciting final part of this special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh talk quite a bit about the new book Russell is currently working on! The new book will be the first (of possibly many) personal development book that Russell has written. We also get to hear why Russell loves to write books and why he thinks everyone should write one. So listen in to the final part of Russell and Josh’s “Outwitting The Devil” interview.

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Russell Brunson: What's up everybody. This Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the third and final episode from the Outwitting The Devil interview with Josh Forti. Hopefully you enjoyed the first two episodes. If you missed any of them, go back and listen to episode one, two and this is part three of three. In this one, Josh started asking me questions about my new books. Why I was so excited about Outwitting The Devil, by how I'm using this? Why I'm writing my fourth book and a bunch of other really cool things. So I hope you enjoy it. And you've enjoyed this interview series, please let me know, let Josh know. The best way to do that is take a picture of any of these on your phone, post them on your social media and tag me and him and let us know what you thought about the episodes. Thanks again, you guys. I appreciate you all for listening with that said, let's queue up the exciting conclusion of the Josh Forti, Russell Brunson Outwitting The Devil Podcast interview.

Josh Forti: Okay. I want to do this because we're talking about all these amazing books and I don't know, this is probably like two, three weeks ago. Maybe it's a little bit longer that. You start hinting on Instagram about this book. And I'm like, "Oh my gosh. There's another book? What could it possibly be?" And then last week I'm out here and you started telling me about it and what it is.

Russell: Showing you the deal.

Josh: It's not a marketing book. It's the next piece and it's your first ever... And I don't want to spoil it for them. I'm going to say it's like your first ever take at personal development. Talk to us about this book. When's it coming out? How did this come about and the details of that, because I'm super, super excited for it.

Russell: I think it was my only, hopefully. But I said that about Dot Com Secrets too.

Josh: I don't believe that at all. There's going to be a trilogy for... Russell you're going to be writing books till you die dude.

Russell: I don't know. Writing is so painful but this one, again, it's me coming back. We launched Traffic Secrets. The world goes chaotic and I have more time and I'm trying to just occupy my mind.

Josh: Which by the way, how perfect time. My heart was completely broken when you had to cancel the Traffic Secrets event because I was supposed to speak to there. I was like, "No." But how perfect of a timing was Traffic Secrets when-

Russell: There are pros and cons of it. It was really good from a selling book standpoint. It was really hard for making New York times bestseller list, which we actually hit, which I'm still freaked out about. It was tough because Amazon wasn't shipping books. Things weren't shipped, all sorts of chaos. They said books weren't essential and so like it was hard to hit lists because you'd sell 10,000 copies of books in a week but Amazon was waiting two, three, four weeks to ship them because it wasn't...

The way that the lists work is, how many did you sell in retail outlets? How many do you sell on USA today? All the things. And so when you have the big push, but then some books aren't being counted four or five weeks later because Amazon doesn't consider them essential. They're not sure when they can glut. Normally it takes 10,000 books or something to hit a bestseller list. We hit over 100,000 to be able to do it. It was way harder, way more stressful, but we got it. But it was easier to sell because I had more time. Anyway, a lot of pros with that. Plus it was crazy because in the beginning of the book I talked about there's a storm coming and then literally it was like, we're in the middle it. You should give this book right now...

Josh: Literally right now.

Russell: I think I'm similar to you. I think a lot of people in our community where it's just like, my mind is always spinning. I can't stop.

Josh: I cannot shut it off ever.

Russell: It's like there's got to be something I got to be thinking about. And again, it was harder me to find stuff for me to geek out on inside of marketing and business. It was just hard to find the next... I don't know. Every level you get to, it's harder to find the next level. I'm sure there's time where Michael Jordan's like, "I can't find people to push me anymore." Where do you go? And it's just like-

Josh: Yeah. Like Tom Brady in the NFL just completely dominating every team that's out there. Yeah. That's right.

Russell: Anyway. So not that I'm that level or anything.

Josh: Right. Right. Right.

Russell: For me it gets harder and harder-

Josh: Likewise.

Russell: To find things. I have to dig so hard to find the gold. And so I started just looking again at some of these things. And that's when I stumble on this book and just like, every page is gold and it's like I'm lit up again. I'm on fire. Again, I talked about earlier, for me one of my highest values is ROI. What's my return on my investment. So I'm learning these things. I'm growing myself personally, but I'm feeling empty because I'm not sharing them. So it's like, "What's the platform?" That's why I'm like, "Everyone go read this." I need to have this conversation with somebody.

So having Dave reading it, everybody can get to read it I'm trying to read so I can get this conversations. Then when you're like, "Hey, do you want to talk about a podcast?" I said, "Yes." You forged some of this stuff because it's in me and if I can't contribute, it seems like I'm wasting it. And so there was this, there was other things. And I started looking more and more. Right now I've got five kids. Three of my kids are teenagers now and teenagers have been way harder than I ever thought or expected. It's weird. Kids are really fulfilling, but man teenagers have been just... It's different for me.

I'm feeling like I have to grow to understand myself, but to also understand them. And what I envisioned my kids as teenagers are going to be what it is, has been so much different. I think for me, at times it got me depression, sadness and these things. And I was like, "I shouldn't be depressed this time in my kid's life. This is the greatest time I could be with them but I got to shift my mind." So it was me trying to do some work on myself, to fix myself. Not fix myself, but to get myself in a spot where I could enjoy the season. And then number two is how do I serve them now at this point? Because I envisioned the way I was going to serve my kids was when my dad did. Where I was like, he drove me to wrestling practice and we traveled the world, we worked out super hard because that's what I needed and I assumed that that's what my kids are going to need and it's not. That's not what they want.

They want almost the opposite of those things. I'm like, "But I have these gifts. These skills I can give you." They are like, "I don't want them." I'm like, "I can help you start a business." Like, "We don't care." I get them value money because they've always had it. It's like all these things. Every gift that I have, it's like all my unique abilities I want to give my kids, they don't want it. So I'm learning this thing of well, instead of me trying to give my kids these things that I think that were so valuable to me. It's like, I have to sit back and understand what's actually valuable to them, which is so much harder and I'm learning this process.

And so as I'm going through this lens of trying to learn these things, understand them, trying to figure them out for myself and I'm stumbling upon things like this and other things. It just got to a point where I was like, "I need to write this book first off for myself." If anyone who's done it, there's this weird thing as you start reading, you start seeing connections. You don't see any other spot. I feel like God opens up insights to you. They're just magical. Like I remember-

Josh: When you start writing.

Russell: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah 100%.

Russell: You have to get deep in a topic, you have studied all these things to figure things out. And I remember the first time I really understood this is, after I finished Traffic Secrets, I wanted to reedit DotCom and an Expert Secrets to publish the trilogy. So I went back. I remember reading those books and I was like, "Where did this stuff come from?" I was like, "This is good crap. I don't remember saying this or thinking that." I couldn't remember and-

Josh: Interesting.

Russell: It's the weirdest thing going back and fighting things. Somehow that was given to me because that was not something that I just intuitively knew. And I feel like for me, I wanted to start the book journey because I'm searching for these answers. The premise of the book is not, "I have all the answers, let me give them to you." I'm in the season where I'm going through it again and let me share through I'm learning on this journey because I'm learning some amazing things. And as I'm sharing as I'm writing them, again these insights keep popping in and it's fascinating. So I'll be doing something, I'll be doing something and I have a doodle. I'm like, "Oh my gosh." I run to Dave I'm like, "Look at this." He's like, "What am I explaining?" He's like, "I never saw it before." New to that. It showed up when I'm in this intense time. And so it's been fun as I'm writing it because these insights are coming at a speed that they don't normally come in.

Josh: And I think also-

Russell: It's really funny.

Josh: I think... Hold that train of thought. I want you to keep going on that. But I've noticed that as well, when it comes to reading books. Reading a book and then applying the book, those are two very different things. I have read Expert Secrets, Dotcom Secrets, Traffic Secrets. And I'm going through, I've not read the hardcover of Expert Secrets. I've only read the soft cover. So right now I'm going through and yes, two nights ago I started it and it's-

Russell: You started the hardcover?

Josh: Yeah. I'm going through, I'm listening to it and I'm reading it and I'm taking notes-

Russell: Get the hardcovers. They're way better than softcovers.

Josh: So I'm going through all this stuff. For the last four or five, six months, all I've been doing, I have no front end products of my own. I'm not building anything. All I'm doing is working with big campaigns on the backend. It's like full out stuff. We're doing stuff with cash phones. All these stuff is up and I'm going through and actually inboxed you. I was like, "Dude. People say they've read this book but they haven't." They've read the words, but it's totally different when you actually experience it. And you're watching where it all fits in and you start to see how it all clicks together. So that broke from the reverse angle of when you're writing it and trying to put it on in together is what you're talking about here.

Russell: Yes. It's super fascinating. So it's been fun. I'm excited. So my goal, I'm trying to get it done by summer for it to be a launch in March. So if you published traditionally, this publishing schedule is really, really long. So if you are going to read it in March, I'd have to have it done by June.

Josh: If we want to read in March of next year, you have to have it done by June this year.

Russell: Yeah.

Josh: Dang.

Russell: So that's where I'm at. So I'm also with the first section of the book and there's four sections. Back then this month I spent the section number one and then that's where I'm at.

Josh: Do we get to know what it's called? Do you have a title yet?

Russell: I do. I don't want to show a title yet because I don't want someone going and-

Josh: Oh, that's true.

Russell: "You guys all suck." And buys those domains up and they start like SEOing me and beating me and all that stuff. But it's going to be cool. It's a study of two things. So I'll give you this part. This is the subtitle. So subtitle, something Tony Robbins talks a lot about, but it's the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. These two things. How do achievers achieve? And then how do you actually get fulfilled? Because it's fascinating. I think-

Josh: Interesting.

Russell: I see my own life. I achieve something thinking that, "When I achieve this thing, I'm going to be fulfilled and happy and everything." And you achieve the thing and you're like, "I'm not happy." And you figure that achievement and fulfillment, they don't work hand in hand. It's a science of achievement, which that's why science achieves more scrutiny. It's like, "Here's a step-by-step process to get this result." I want to be state champion wrestler here's a step by step process. Boom, got it. I want to be a known American step-by-step process. Got it. I want to start a business, step-by-step. Science. It's not thinking, you just follow a process and you get it.

So for me, achievements always come easy. Anything I ever want in my life I've achieved it because there's a science. I figured out. Fulfillment's art, it's different. It's not follow these steps and you become fulfilled. The yin yang of these two things. And it's so fascinating. I've been going deeper into it and seeing the pattern appear over and over and over again, all these different things. And how do you apply it to your life? And there's so many cool things in this book that don't necessarily talk about science of achievement and fulfillment but they're all in here. The patterns in here over and over and over again. So it's pulling it from all these sources and showing it to everybody, that's what the book's going to do and then how to weave it all into aspects of your life anyway. So that's-

Josh: One of the things and I'm sure you'll talk about it, but will be the balance of those two things. Because it's early on in my very young career of being 27 years old, but it was all about achieve, achieve, achieve, achieve. And there's always my mom's voice in the back of my head, it's like, "Things won't make you happy." "I know mom."

Russell: Yes they will.

Josh: Yeah. Yes they will. And then you get there. There have been moments in my life where right now in this moment I am completely fulfilled or I'm completely content and it's just like, I don't know what could make my life better. And it's not when I achieved anything, it's not when I did anything. But in that moment, whenever I take a step back and think about that moment, I have very little drive to go achieve anything more. And there's that balance of how do I stay fulfilled and content while also being driven to go achieve. Because for me and this is something I'd wrestled with and talked to Katie about it. And I'm like, "It's either one or the other. I can't be..." And she's like, "There's always another option. There's never black and white." And so balancing the two of those and understanding that. Like you said, they don't go hand in hand. They're separate things, I think it's really important and something that I'm trying to figure out and learn.

Russell: So I got frustrated about all the times I achieve something and I'm so frustrated, why do I not feel how I thought I was going to feel and leads to depression or frustration or whatever. But when you start separating these are two different things I can achieve and I want to achieve, but how do I get fulfilled in the journey or separately from it and you start anyway. It's been fascinating and learning so many cool things and it's going to be fun to start sharing with everybody. I'm going to probably start in my podcasts, start dropping more and more things then getting deeper and deeper. More of the thoughts are going be flushed out. That's the weird thing about writing a book too, is initially I'm like, "Here's what I'm going to write." I write an outline of what the book is going to be and I write chapter number one. I was like, "Now this outline makes sense. You write that one" Chapter two.

And so it's like, it's this rebuild, rebuild, rebuild. And by the time it's done, hopefully we'll find out. It'll be the perfect thing that's like, here's the frameworks you need. And for example, this whole concept here, there's a chapter that's going to be taking the frameworks from this book and this is going to be the chapter walking people through this concept of faith and fear.

This doodle is a rough draft. I just tell you I sent this to you today. I'm like, "This is not the perfect doodle. I saw it. I'm not going to post it down below yet because this is partially done." It's going to be perfect by the time the book's done. I'm still thinking through and trying to get it right. And making it a simple form where I can understand it and hopefully it makes it easy for people to apply. But anyway, it's pretty cool. I think everyone should read a book. I think everybody listening should set that as a goal because when you do, just the act of writing the book will change your board. And I think anyone will understand. And when somebody asks, "What are you doing?" You're like, "I'm writing a book."

Josh: That sounds very cool.

Russell: There's no much cooler than that.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Okay. I know you have a hard cutoff, so I want to be respectful of that here. So I want to end with one question here and that is specifically about reading books. It's interesting. I'm pretty involved in the ClickFunnels world. Those are my people as well too. And so those are the people that follow me and that I interact with and I talk to a lot and it's always interesting when I talk to people about reading versus action. And some people have this... I feel like there's weird thought that if you're a reader, you're not an action taker, which I'm like, "That's not true. That's not how that works."

But anyway, for you, if you are early on in your career, early on in you journey of building your business and your funnels and putting everything together. Do you recommend? Going back and thinking of your life, were you a big reader early on? Did you do a lot of reading or were you more action taking and looking back, would you recommend people read more, take more action? What's that balance? Because it's very easy. I know for me, I'm making time to read and then that's all I want to do. I'm like, "This is amazing." And then I'll take action. And so what's that Balance there? And what do you recommend as far as reading versus action?

Russell: It's tough because some people read just because you get fulfillment or like there's-

Josh: There's a good feeling that comes with reading.

Russell: Comes with reading.

Josh: For sure.

Russell: So-

Josh: It's a fake sense of accomplishment.

Russell: Yes. So this is my belief. I remember when I first got started, I was reading a lot, I was listening, I was going to seminars. I remember at first it always frustrated because I was learning all this stuff and I was getting it but I had nowhere to use it and I was trying to use it all. That's why I think I launched... I can't remember. A couple of funnels by measure. It was like a 106, 116 or something funnels I launched before ClickFunnels. And that's because every idea that came to me, I was like, "I have to create something." I create this and I create this. I was creating funnel and funnel and coaching program.

I joined Dan Kennedy's mastermind and they talked about, "You should have mastermind groups." So at the event I launched a mastermind group. I'm like, "You should have phone sales." We started phone sales and "You should be doing seminars." We launched a seminar. Every idea that came, I launched it. But man, I got a point where I was drowning. Because we had 8,000 things we're doing and nothing really worked. And I remember always feeling guilty because these ideas are coming to me. I'm thinking, "These are gifts from God. These are inspiration. I need to have these things." And it wasn't until... I don't remember when. But somewhere down the line, I realized that, "I don't actually have to take all these different things and do them, but I can understand them." Because I enjoy learning, understanding.

So I would take them into my mind and literally put them on a shelf. I remember there's this Dan Kennedy on how to do high ticket, air exclusive program. So when we were listening to it, there's talking about franchise and this. All of a sudden, this is amazing. So I was taking it because I enjoyed the learning of it. And then I was like, "I'm not doing this right now." I'm so stretched thin, but I enjoyed the learning. So I'm flying an airplane, listening to this audio book or whatever. If I'm going to put it over here, I'm just categorizing and I put it over here in my brain. Like, "Hey. If I ever wanted to go back and do that, I know where it's at or at least put over here."

So I started learning because I enjoyed learning but I didn't have to implement everything. And I've put things in these different spots. At the same time I had a very clear vision. This is definitive purpose. I had a vision. So I'm trying to execute on something I'm trying to do. So as I'm learning, when something came that crossed my mind I was like, "That's the next step. I could grab it and plug it in and I could use it." If it didn't. I'm like, "That's awesome. Put it right here. Someday I'm going to use that in future." And I talked to… James Friel and I talked about because he has a Trello board. He calls his shiny penny Trello board where anytime you have a great idea-

Josh: Yeah. I have one of those.

Russell: Instead of trying to implement, he puts it on his Trello boards. Keeps your ideas. I think for most entrepreneurs, every idea is like your baby, like "This is the greatest idea of all time."

Josh: Yeah. I have a Trello board called Josh's brain.

Russell: Oh awesome. This pre Trello because I remember getting a note card. I had three by five note cards and when I had the ideas, I put them in there, I put them there. And somebody I'm going to come back to this and I get ideas and put them there. I kept putting them there either in a note card or somewhere else. And it's crazy. And I fast forward. Man, I think it's 19 or 20 years, I'm doing this now. So whatever it is. Almost two decades. And it's really cool because when I coach people now and this is my inner circle so I have people in here I'm coaching and someone would appear on stage and they're stuck with a problem and they're frustrated. They're like, "I don't want to do this thing." And all of a sudden out of the back of my mind pops up this thing and it comes into my-

Josh: Exactly.

Russell: I have this thing. I'm like, "Oh my gosh. Where did that come from?" It's because I learned it. Because I read this book here, I saw this thing over here and all these things. And so I think a lot of times we have to understand that learning is fun. So enjoy it. Don't be like, "I'm not going to read because..." Reading is awesome. Read, learn, do those things, but also understand, what is your mission? Stephen Larson talked about this two funnel hiking lives ago. He called it just-in-time learning. It seems like if you are going to read the book you need... I agree with that except for this is a better pastime than watching movies.

So let's read, let's study. But having your path, this is my goal, this is where I'm going to go. If you join my coaching program, we're going to talk about what's the first funnel. That's what we focus on. Don't do anything else, just focus on that. You can learn other things, but categorize them or wait until you're ready. And then as you get pieces right. I need that, I need that and figure out the next steps. I think that's how I would do the yin yang of both of those. Because I'm the same way. I'm learning so many things or study things or I find things are awesome that I'm not going to use but someday there'll be someone I come upon that that nugget is going to be the thing that unlocks something for them and they're going to super grateful. So, anyway.

Josh: All right. Well man, thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. This is so much fun. We could talk for hours, but we do have to wrap it up there. We've got a little something to get to, so thank you man. I appreciate it.

Russell: No worries. And hopefully all you guys, two things I want to say. Number one, I'd highly recommend reading this book and read through the lens of this. The first time I didn't know where I was going. So I was all over the place and just freaking out. But look at the lens of Faith and Fear of, I don't want to be a drifter. I want to be somebody spiritually, mentally, and physically free. Look at that and start looking at everything he talks about from this lens and just look at it as protections of you that will be there to get to the spot where you're learn 2% or how to keep yourself from becoming a drifter or if you are drifter shift yourself back. And looking at this, because it's this guide book of all the ways that the devil uses to shift you around. And when you're aware of it, man, it makes it so much more powerful.

Josh: And-

Russell: This is huge.

Josh: The thing that I would say we didn't have time to get to it, but I would say too is understand that it's not... If you're religious, understand that there's probably going to be some things that the devil is like, "You don't need God, you don't need me." Some of the things that are going to be in there, like Russell said, 97% is good, 3% is bad. Don't let that prevent you from understanding the value and the power that's in this book because there is so much good stuff in this. And any single time that I've ever had success at anything when I look back, it follows very closely to the principles that were taught here, so anyway.

Russell: That's awesome. And then wait until next March to buy my book.

Josh: And I will be the number one affiliate. So hopefully you all can be number two, three, four. That's cool. That's going to be super, super cool. So Russell, thank you so much, man. I appreciate it. Love to do it again for The Book of Mormon or something like that and all right. All right guys, that's it.

Russell: Thanks everyone.

Josh: As always, hustle, hustle. God bless. Don't be afraid to think different because those of us who think different are going to be the ones who change the world. I love you all. See you soon.

Russell: Bye everybody.

Josh: See you.

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]]> 1352 no "Outwitting The Devil" with Josh Forti - Part 2 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/outwitting-the-devil-with-josh-forti-part-2-of-3 Welcome to the second part of a special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh talk about their biggest “take-aways” from the book. Russell talks about a difficult time when Clickfunnels was down and instead of choosing fear and running from the problem, he chose to have faith in his business and fight to make it better. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you enjoyed the first part of my interview with Josh Forti, on Outwitting the Devil. This episode, I'm excited, because we're going to go a little bit deeper. We're going to start talking about some of my stories, and practical applications of how I was able to use this in my past. This story I tell, I wasn't expecting to tell this. I didn't know where he was going to go with the interview questions. We got a little emotional, but I think it was good. So I'm excited to share it with you. I'm a little nervous, but a little excited at the same time. So with that said, we're going to cue up the theme song. When we come back you can listen to episode number two, from the Josh Forti interview, about Outwitting the Devil. Josh Forti: I had a very definitive takeaway from the book. You could read a million times, and keep getting gold nuggets, but what was the thing that stuck out to you, that was the most powerful of it? That caused you to literally go on Instagram, be like, "Yo, everybody read this book right now." Russell: Everyone's in different spots, so I think it's good to read this book for everyone to kind of see where you fit. Anyway, maybe I have a distorted view of myself, but I feel like I'm somebody who acts in definitive purpose. I feel like I act in faith, most of the times. So, I feel like I'm on the side. So the thing that was so powerful for me, if you look in the middle of my thing, there's two columns here, was he started saying, he asked, he's like, "When someone uses definitive purpose, does that mean they're free from you?" He's like, "No." He's like, "As soon as they're using definitive purpose." And he's like, "These are the tools I use to try to get them to become drifters." And I started looking at the list of things he uses to get them to become drifters. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I see those patterns in my life. I see the things that are pulling me to that side as well." And it became this warning for me of like, "Okay, these are the things to protect yourself from." Because, we're not free, it's not like, I do good things therefore I'm to be good forever. It's like, no, the entire time he's trying to get you to the other side. And so for me, it was interesting. You can see some of these ones I list up here, like the temptations he uses to get someone who is free, to become a drifter. So number one, was flattery. And it was interesting, he said that the way he uses flattery, is in women, he uses vanity, and in men, he uses egotism. And I've seen that so many times in my own personal life, where with your ego and you start reading your own bio, you drink your own Kool-Aid, and you're like, "I'm amazing." And as soon as you do that, it starts shifting you from this state of freedom, to drifters. And I've seen... I've got personal friends who have let ego destroy their families, destroy their businesses, destroy their lives. And I always have fear of that, and I see myself slipping into that often. It's definitely a temptation, it's one of the things for me, that pulls me in, I'm trying to be careful of. It's funny, people always tell me, like, "I feel like you're one of the few guys in the industry that doesn't have a big ego." I'm like, "I have a huge ego." I try to be aware of it. I'm grateful for my wife. One of my buddies told me, he's like, "It wasn't for Colette." He's like, "You'd have the biggest head in the world." She's the one that keeps me focused. Josh: I feel like that's Leo with me too, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. Russell: But I think it was interesting for man, for egotism, and women, he said vanity, which is interesting too. So those are two things there. Next was failure, and he talked about failure from both sides. He said that failure can be something that actually serves you, because you fail, you see what's wrong and you read adjust, but some people go through failure, and then they slip to like, "Okay, this didn't work," and they're out. And you see that a lot. Josh: Well, and that's even here, it's learning from adversity. That's one of the key things, how do you use failure? If you're going to be a drifter, you're going to be like, "Failure. Ew yuck. I'm never going to do it again." versus a successful person. Russell: You see people all the time that fail, are like, "Oh, I tried the thing, and it didn't actually work." It's like, "Okay. It worked for 800 other people, but it didn't work for you. Maybe it was you, maybe the approach was..." It's so interesting where it's like, if... It comes back to, if you've read Jocko's book. Josh: What's Jocko's book? Extreme Ownership. Yeah. Russell: That's the thing, the failure happens, and it's like, "Oh, I going to blame it on them." Boom. Instantly you're a drifter. But if you're like, "It was me, I did it wrong. What am I going to change?" The extreme ownership, that's the shift from failure. Whereas you take extreme ownership, boom, you're staying over here, but, if you don't... And I have a problem all the time. I think something that's happened to my team, or whatever, and I want to point the finger, and it's like, "But I'm the leader of the team." But it's so much easier to point out, than point back in. And so for me, that was the one. Again, another one I noticed, when I had my failures, did I point out or in? Because if I point out, I'm slipping into drifting. Propaganda, bribes, food, sex, all these different things he was using. The food one was interesting, he was talking about, he's like, "When men and women become rich, and they have all these things, I get them through food, when they start eating and get gluttonous. And all of sudden their body gets not healthy, and then it's harder to move." And I'm sure you felt that, when you're not eating healthy, your mind gets cloudy, and all these things, it's very easy to become a drifter. And so, it's just all these tools he's using to try to get you to shift from one another. Those things were... In my time in my life right now, where I was just like, "Okay, cool. I've got walls, I can start protecting myself up. I can become more aware of it." When you're aware of something, it's so much easier to fight it, as opposed to when… Josh: Yeah. And when you're successful too, everything's convenient. And that's one of the things that he brought up in the book too. I noticed in my life, I was thinking back to when I first started, I was like, "Man, I was sleeping on my buddy's couch." For three months, and I worked my butt off, and everything like that. I'm like, "Why do I lack that drive sometimes?" Like, "Why don't I have that anymore?" It's like, "Because life is convenient." Because if I sleep until eight o'clock, or if I don't perform today, my life doesn't change at all. But back then, it did. And so when things become convenient, it's super easy to come back into that drifter mode. Russell: Yeah. A hundred percent. And that's one of the hardest thing. I think, at least for me, when I was growing up, I always thought there's a point where you made it. In fact, I remember this one time, my business was doing well at the time, we had a bunch of employees. I remember hiring this guy to come consult me on something, and he came out, and he's looking at all this stuff. And he's like, "So tell me, when was he felt like... When did you know you made it?" And I was like, "Oh, I..." I'm still freaking out. I don't feel like I made it. And I think, in my life, I always thought there's going to be a point where I'm like, "I made it, or figured the thing out." Or whatever, but I never got there. I feel like the second I do, that's when it's going to start... That's the thing. And so, I think being more aware of that, just like, this is a constant thing and that's okay, but, it's a constant between God and Satan, there's this constant... Every moment is like, each of them are fighting for. It's like, if you give up here, then you slip back over to there. You can't just... There's no neutral ground. Josh: So, I just want to talk about that, because I think one of the biggest... Well, the number one thing, like you said, of a non drifter, is the definitive purpose. And I have noticed that in my life, even recently... Over the past year, year and a half, I've been working with Katie Richardson, you know that, just really getting clear on what the next steps of things are. And my definitive purpose, if you will, when I first started my entrepreneurship journey, was this, "I just don't want to be poor anymore." I go like, "My definitive purpose is to not worry about money, and to get out of debt, and just be free. Then be able to make decisions or whatever." And then I got there, and then there was this next definitive purpose. And they were incremental, almost goals, but not like this overwhelming definitive purpose. And so, going through the process of that, of course, with my brother dying, and that whole shattering of everything. Like for you, you've built ClickFunnels, you have a wildly successful company and people look up to you, and are like, "Oh my gosh, Russell, you're on top of the world. You're amazing. You've made it." At now, you've just said, "Hey, I don't feel like I've made it yet. I still feel like I have a long way to go." How do you... A, has your purpose changed since you started, compared to where you're at now? And B, how do you continue to remind yourself of that purpose? Or how do you find that purpose? When you could do nothing for the rest of your life, and be totally fine. How do you find purpose in that? Russell: I'd be a drifter at that point. Josh: Right, you wouldn't be a drifter. I can just see Russell sitting on the beach. No, actually, I can't even imagine what that would look like, for Russell on the beach for long periods of time. But, what would that look like for you? Or, how do you find that purpose? Russell: So, you asked about if my purpose has changed. So I would say, in my mind, it's two things. There's the people that I've been called to serve has not changed, I feel like I've been called to serve entrepreneurs. Those are my people, those are the people that I'm here... And so for me, it's like, what are all the ways I can help them? So, initially it was like, "Do seminars, write books." That was the first thing, and then it's like, "Oh, we're going to build software." And then it's like, "Oh, we're doing events." And, we kept adding these things on. And so, that was the thing. And so my purpose was like, what are all the things I can do to help an entrepreneur to be more successful? That's my vision. That's my mission. That's my thing. And I feel like now that, again, after I finished the three books, I was like, I feel like that, again, that the trilogy, that's what people need. And then we have Funnel Hacking Live, that's amazing. We have these things in place, all the things there are... they're there. And I think there's things, where there's big updates, we have to company click funnels. There're other things we do to make things better, but for me, it's like, there's not a lot more, again, it's not like I'm going to come out with some magic funnel, I'm like, "God, it changes everything again." Like, it's there. Right? So for me, it's like, "Okay, I'm still called to serve these people. What's the next level of success? What's the next thing I need to do?" And for me, I started looking, like what were the things that I struggled with? And so much of it was not... It was like, I didn't have the tools, I didn't have the information, which is why the last two decades has been focused on that. But, the next thing was like, I had to become someone different, who did I have to become to be successful? I look at so many entrepreneurs who are coming into my world, these people that I'm called to serve, and giving them funnels. Man, they don't believe in themselves, they have horrible identities. They're choosing fear over faith, every single time, and they're not having success. And so, for me, it's like, "Hey, I still have the same people." So-called same.. served the same people. But, what am I... What's the next thing I need to help them with? And if you just look at my book trilogy, the first one was dotcom secrets. It's like, "They need to understand funnels." That was the book. And it was like, "Hey, now I understand funnels." And now everyone's like, "I'm building funnels." But then their funnels weren't working, they weren't converting. And I'm like, "Oh, they don't know how to tell stories, right copy, or..." So, Expert Secrets, I'm like, "Expert Secrets." It's like, "Okay, now they understand that." And I thought I was done. And then I'm like, "Okay. Some people have these funnels that have really good copy, but Facebook shut down their account and they're screwed, or they have no traffic, or whatever." And I'm like, "Oh, my people in the traffic." So, I'm getting traffic, and that was Traffic Secrets book. And so for me, the last year, year and a half, especially, as you know, we've been in this insane environment of insanity… Josh: How do you even describe it? Russell: And I'm watching these people I've been called to serve, melting down, choosing fear in every single direction, over, and over, and over, and over again. I'm seen people who don't have an identity, they don't have beliefs, they don't have rules, they don't have values. And I have all these things they need to actually have the structure, to implement. It is what we talked about. And that's why I started geeking back to this personal moments, and partially because it's for myself, because I'm trying to protect myself and strengthen myself. But for me, Hill doesn't really go deep on anything. If you look at my disc profile, one of my things is I have very, very high... my highest value is ROI. If I don't see return on investment on something, I can't do. That's why I struggled in school, that's why I struggled with so many things. That's why when I started trying to read scriptures again, I struggled with it, until I started a podcast, because now there's return on my investment. I'm going to learn this thing, but I'm going to give it to somebody else. And there's my return on investment, now I can do it, and I feel fulfilled by it. Josh: Which by the way, I'm going to plug, podcast number three is going to be about that. Russell: And the same thing here. So, I started going back through, started reading these things. And for a while it was tough, because I'm reading these things, and for me it's like, what's the return on investment? It's good for me, but, ah, I've been called to serve. It's not just... Again, I talk about this in the new book, we'll talk about it a minute. But in Expert Secrets I talk about growth and contribution. I love growth, because good for me, but I thrive on the contribution. It's me sharing that gets me excited. So I was going through these things, and that's when, probably three or four months ago, is when I was like, "Hey, I'm learning all these principles, these things, I'm doodling all this stuff." I need to have something I'm putting it towards, or else I'm not going to be able to continue the momentum I need to keep doing this, and keep figuring out these things. And so, that's why I started, as you know, on my fourth book, which is not a marketing book. Josh: Yeah. I want to talk about that. Okay. I really do want to go there. However, there's one question I want to ask you first, I want to pull back another layer of Russell, that people... I don't know. Maybe, you've told this story before. I don't know. I don't even know what the story is, I'm about to ask you. So, my number one takeaway from the book, was how much fear controls people. That was my number one thing. And, for me, and this has come through a tremendous amount of mental work, and tremendous amount of personal identity work, over the course of the past 12 to 16 months, of just tears and just facing my own fears and insecurities, and bringing them to light and working through. But, there's not a whole lot of things I'm afraid of. There're very few things where I'm looking at them, I'm like, "Oh my gosh." I just do me, and whatever. Like criticism, it doesn't really bother me, or whatever. But, there's certain instances that come up where I'm like, "Ooh, I'm afraid of failure in that specific scenario, for that specific thing." And I'd be curious to know, for you, as you built ClickFunnels, I'm sure there were moments of fear. And I'm sure there were moments, when this side of things started to creep in, but you worked through that. And so, I'd be curious to know, what was one of the biggest times when you were building ClickFunnels, that you were afraid? And how did you work through that? What's that story? Russell: Oh man. Josh: Because I feel like we hear the marketing version of it. Russell: The highlight reels. Josh: We do, right? And they serve a very specific purpose. And I always laugh when people want to criticize, like, "Russell only tells this part of the story, or whatever" I'm like, "Do you understand why he's doing that?" Like, "Do you understand it's fitting into... It's at Funnel Hacking Live, or it's at this, or whatever." I'm like, "There's a purpose for that." It's not like he's trying to do that, but I want to know the other side of it. I want to know the behind the scenes of, what was that moment where you're like, "This is not worth it. I'm going to shut it all down. Or I'm afraid that I'm not going to be able..." I don't know what the story is. Russell: Yeah, definitely for me, the part that was the hardest, it was the first year of ClickFunnels, we just launched it. And I remember, because when Todd built it he told me, he was like... And in my head, I thought we're going to get 10,000 members month one, that was in my head. And Todd was like, "Okay, well, just so you know, as soon it past 10,000 members, the way I coded it, it's going to have to be different." And I was like, "I don't know that means, but I'm going to get 10,000 members. Right?" So we go and launch it, we don't get 10,000 members, kind of depressed, but we started pursuing this thing, start working towards it. And within about a year we got 10,000 members. And during that time, ClickFunnels started doing weird things, where it would just go down for five minutes, and be back, like, "What just happened?" And like, "Oh, some blah, blah, blah, techie thing happened." And yeah, so they fixed it, like, "Hey, good." And then it goes down, this time it's down 15 minutes, and 15 minutes down.... It's funny, because one minute I'm everyone's hero, they're like, "We love you, Russell. You made our lives so much easier making money." I'm getting the messages, and just feeling the ego, and all the things they're just like... This is amazing. And then it goes down, and I want you to understand, when ClickFunnels would go down, it wasn't like, "Hey, man, it's down." It was like, "I want to kill you." Like, "You owe me $2,000 in ads for my 15 minute window that it's down." Like, "I'm going to sue you." Like death threats, I went from the hero of the day, to, "I want to kill you." And messages coming in are like... And I'm getting things, and Todd's not getting them, because no one knows... He's kind of behind the scenes, and I'm just like, you want to kill me? They're that angry? They want to sue me, they want all these things. And then, publicly posting everywhere, how horrible and how bad.... And the second someone slips, everyone wants to jump up and start throwing daggers at them, it's insane. I seen it happen to so many people. I have friends who I've seen it happen to recently, where it's like, everyone loves until they do something, and then it's just like everyone wants to pounce on- Josh: And half the time, it's not even their fault. Russell: It's crazy, if that's happening. And so, it's happening, we get back up, and then, "Is this is going to work good?" Like, "Yeah, fine." I'm like, "Okay. It's going to be good." So then we plan on that, and then again, it would go good for two, three weeks, then something happened, and it just kept happening. And the longer we go, more members happened, it would more often, it would happen longer. And, it was just horrible. Because I remember one time I was speaking at a Dan... GKC event. And I'm in the hotel room, we just got there, Dave and I were there, we're getting everything ready. And it goes down, we're down for like 30 minutes. I'm freaking out. I'm supposed to be on stage in 30 minutes, or like an hour or something, and it's down, and I messaging and I remember voxing Todd, I'm like, "Hey, it's down again." He messaged back all nice like, "Oh yeah." Like anyways, he was just like, he's like, "Oh yeah, it's down again. We'll work on it." So I messaged back, I was like, "This is happening a lot. Are you sure we're okay? You seem a little nice and calm, you okay?" It's funny, because Todd's super respectful, he doesn't ever swear around me or anything. And he messaged back, and I've never heard Todd scared before. And he messaged back, and he was... I won't repeat what he said, but it was just like, what he said and how he said it, was just like, we're screwed. He said it four or five times in a row, and then he ended. And I was just like- Josh: And you're about to go on stage? Russell: Yeah, and I was like… Josh: Oh my gosh. Russell: And I was just freaking out. I'm like, "I'm about to go on stage, and try and convinced all this audience that I've got the greatest thing in the world. And my partner who built it, is freaking out, and doesn't know how to stabilize this thing. And he's..." I remember just being sick to my stomach, scared, all these fears, all the anxiety, all the inadequacy, all those things. And I remember I'm just freaking out, and then we got it back up, and then Dave's like, "Hey, you're on in like 10 minutes." I'm like, "Oh." So, I do my things, run downstairs and then come on stage. And I was just in my head, and my mind, and my body just freaking out. And, do the presentation, I know the presentation, even if I'm scared, it's going to come out pretty similar, it converted well, people bought it, everyone's excited. I remember afterwards, it was weird, this is one of those weird things, I don't even know who it was. If you're listening, she messaged me, some dude lingered afterwards and he's like, "Um, you okay?" I'm like, "Yeah. Fine. How's it going?" And he's like a chiropractor, but like a “woo-woo” one, were they do energy stuff. And he's like, "Can I adjust you?" And I'm like, "That's weird." He's like, "No, I don't really do normal adjusting, it's this other weird kind." And I was like, "I don't know what's happening. This guy is creeping me." But for some reason, like, "Sure. Whatever." So he takes me in this other room, he starts doing adjusting, he's doing the muscle testing, and all sorts of stuff on me, which I- Josh: Just some random dude? Russell: Yeah. I'd never had that happen before, he was attending the event, so he was there. Josh: Right. Russell: And it was weird, because he starts... He's just like, "You have all this tension here, here, all these things." And he's trying to figure out why. And so, eventually, and again, some people think that that's crazy. You think that's crazy? Nowadays, I don't know, Because- Josh: No. I don't think it's crazy. Russell: Anyway. It's interesting. But, he's doing this muscle testing, and he muscle tests, and he's like, "The thing that you're experiencing right now inside your body, is a reflection of something that happened." I can't remember, it was like 3.6 years ago, or something like that. He's like, "What happened three and a half ago?" "I have no idea." I couldn't remember. And all of a sudden I was like, "Oh my gosh, that was the last time my company collapsed." And we had to... We didn't go through bankruptcy, but had to fire almost a hundred people. We had to shut everything down. It was all this stuff. And he's like, "Your body's experiencing the same things right now, that you experienced at that moment. And that's this tension and these things." Josh: Oh my gosh. Russell: It was crazy. And he did all this stuff to try to release it, and everything. But also I realized, it's like, oh my gosh. My biggest thing is, I built this thing up, people think I'm a hero again, right now. And I remember what happened three and a half years ago, when I lost everything and how much pain, and how much... All these things, the poverty I got, the criticism I got, the ill health I got, the loss of love I got, friends, family, coworkers walking out on me. I wanted to die. I'm over the edge. All my greatest fears came back in that moment, and I'm in this spot, and I don't know how to fix it, because I can't code. I go to college and learn how to code? I don't what to do. Josh: That's the worst, oh man. Russell: The next week… Josh: It's out of your hands. Russell: We're flying to London, to speak in London. They invited my family to come to me. So, my wife and kids were all flying in London, and I told parts of this story before, but we're in the air, everything's good. The kids are having so much fun, they're flying. And we land, we get to London, and there's... In your phones, the chips don't work, so you have to- Josh: Yeah. You got to swap them. Russell: So we're driving around, and finally get our chips in there, and as soon as it does, all of a sudden, my phone was just like... And I don't know what it is, so I'm looking, and there's text messages, there's instant messages, there's voxers, there's all these things, hundreds, I'm not exaggerating, people are like, "A hundred's, probably like 10." No, hundreds and hundreds on every platform, where people sending me death threats, sending me they want to kill me, send me the hate me, send me I'm screwing them over, sending me all that... just this stuff, and I'm looking at my phone, and I'm just like, "I don't even know what happen." So I'm finally trying to get Todd, I got ahold of him, and he's like, "Yeah, we're down. We've been down for four or five hours." He's like, "If we're able to get it back up." And all I remember him saying, if, and not when, and I was just like- Josh: And you're in London. Russell: With my family. Josh: About to speak. Russell: And so, I don't even know. I went back to the hotel room, and we had two hotels conjoining for the kids. I was like, "Hey, I'm going to go in this room for a minute." And I shut the door, and I'm just like, I don't know what to do. We're down. I don't know if we're getting it back up. So, to speak the next day to talk about click funnels. And it was one of the things where I was just in so much fear, I wanted to hide. I just wanted to not say anything. I just wanted to be quiet. Josh: Yeah. Especially as an introvert. Russell: Yeah. Especially and introvert who's got literally hundreds of people telling me how much they hate me. And, I don't know want to do. And this one of those moments where it's just like, the fear and the faith, I wanted to go to fear. That sounds so nice, just to hide and... But I was like, I can't, because this is my life. This is all this stuff we've worked for, for so long. And, in that moment I had impression of, you should go live on Facebook. I'm like, "I don't want to live on Facebook." They're like, "You have to. You have to tell people what's happening." I was like, "What kind of CEO, in the middle of this crash, gets online and like, Hey, our company's down." And put on the happy face, like, "It's okay, because... let me blame the servers." I had a million people I could blame, because it was... Josh: It's not your fault Russell. It's never your fault, right? Russell: So, finally, I was like, "All right." So I just, I told the kids, "I'm going to be on in 15 minutes." So I clicked go, and all of a sudden I'm live. And of course, because it's live, everybody pops in, because they're trying to figure out... Because they all want to kill me. Like, "Russell's here, this is our time." And first it popped up, you start seeing the comments, like, "You're effing killed... You killed my business." Like all these things, and just like, "You owe me, how much money." Like all these things, and I'm just like, "Okay." And instead of doing what I wanted to do, which was blame, point to other people. I was like, "I'm pissed." And I was like, "This is not okay." Like, "My business is down, your business is down. You trusted me. You trusted us. We are not doing this right. This is not acceptable." I'm not like... And I tried my best. In fact, the video's still live, it's on... If you go to my Facebook page, and go to videos and scroll down to year one of click funnels, the video's still live there. Josh: That's crazy. Russell: And, basically I just tried… Josh: Somebody go find it and post in the comments. Seriously. I'd love to see it. Russell: Yeah. And I just posted it, I can't remember if I posted in the ClickFunnels group, or maybe it was in my... Anyway, I remember I found a little while ago to look at it again, I remember watching it, I was just like, "Whoa, that sucked." But I did my best, try to take that. Definitive purposes, this is not okay, this is what we're trying to do. I'm just going to take faith. And it was crazy, because I remember we posted that, while Todd and the team was working their butts off. And luckily through so many miracles, they got everything back up. We had a backup from right, for a hit. We didn't lose anything, other than the eight hours we were down. And we expected the next day that half our members would cancel, everything's going to be gone. And it was crazy how by taking the action of faith, people came in, and instead of being upset, they're like, "You know what, thank you. Thank you for not hiding. Thank you for telling us you're upset. Thank you for understanding this is not acceptable, and not trying to be like, oh, thanks for taking responsibility. And over the next week, we didn't see any... It wasn't like, signups and cancellation, we watched those two numbers all the time, it wasn't a big drop. It was just like... It didn't change. And, after that we made changes, we figured things out, we got things solid and looking stable. And that was the last time we went down for more than a little blip here or there. But that was probably the biggest thing, and I remember just being... Anyway. Josh: That's crazy. Well, I think, that comes back to having a definitive purpose, because you had a goal, you were all in. Because, without that, you throw in the towel, and you say this isn't worth it. If you are not crystal, crystal clear, or at least very, very emotionally attached to that outcome, or to that goal of that definitive purpose of where you're at, you should shut everything down there, and you walk. That's crazy. I've never heard that story before. Russell: I'm sweating reliving it. Thanks for that. Josh: No problem. I'm sure the audience loved it though. Russell: Anyway, it was a scary, scary time in between those two things happening back to back. And like I said, and then we started working towards it, and man, Todd and Ryan, and all the people on our team who went and who figured out the problems, and solidified things, and brought in the right people. It's crazy, because people with click funnels are like, "You should know how to not go down." It's like, "You don't understand. At that point, we went from a bunch of entrepreneurs trying to make something, to like, at that point we were like the 300th most visited website in the world." And there's not many people on this planet who know how to handle the database architecture behind that. We didn't know how to do it, and so we're trying to find people. We literally hired people who, they're charging 10 grand an hour to do database administration. So, you hire them, like, "Okay, here's 20 grand. You get two hours to look." So they log in and look around, like, "Here's all the mistakes." And then they go back, and go try to fix them. Then like, "Hey, here's another 10 grand, another hour." Like that's the people who like ran eBay and Amazon. Those are people you have to hire to come and look at these problems, because they're not problems that most people deal with. And if you think about it, we tell you we have 120,000 members, that's true. That's 120,000 people's websites, most of them more than one, most of them 10, 20, 50, a hundred. There's... I don't know, quarter million, half a million websites running all on our servers. No one knows that stuff. Josh: Brad, how many do we have? How many? Brad's over here they already probably got 50, just there. No, we'll run it through. Russell: These are problems, not normal problems most people know how to solve. We don't know how to solve them. So it's like, "How do we do that?" Every level there's new level of stress and problems, and things that they keep coming up, that you just... If you don't have that definitive purpose, and that dream, and that vision, that thing, there's so many things pulling you off the path. There's a million things trying to pull you to become a drifter, from flattery, to failure, to propaganda, bribes, to... All these things are trying to do that, the world's stacked against you. In fact, according the book, 98% of people are there. Josh: Yeah 98%. That's crazy. Russell: So, first off, it comes back to, if you want to shift yourself back, the very first thing is, come back to very first questions, like, "Am I doing this decision based on faith or fear?" That's the transition point, it's not like, "Okay I got to fix all this crap. And I got to..." No, it's like, come back to the very beginning, and if you start shifting your decision making process, to like, "I'm scared." You can still be scared, you still have fear. I still have fear all the time, I'm sure you do too. I'm like, "Do I do that?" But, you don't act in fear, you act in faith. Like, "Okay, I could lose everything, I could be criticized. I could, I could, I could..." But, this is my definitive purpose, this is my vision, this is where I have to go. Therefore, I will act in faith, regardless of these things that they happen. I have to be okay with the worst case scenario. I have to be okay, that if I screw up people are going criticize me, or else I'm not going to be able to move forward in faith. And that's the conundrum. That's where you have to get thick skin, and be okay with these things. And I think for me, I've tried it, I spend time consciously thinking about each of these. Like you talked about death, you don't fear death, for me, for a big part of my life I did fear death. And there's parts of me... I'm thinking about it today, if I was to die, I wouldn't be scared of death, I'd be scared of my kids not having a dad. But, the thing, the belief that I have, and the new book goes deep into these kinds of things, that I'm real excited to share. But, my belief about death, we have to have beliefs, and values, and rules around all these kind of things. But my belief about death is, I strongly, strongly, strongly believe that none of us will live on this planet one second longer or shorter than God wants us to. I believe that to my core soul. So, because I'm okay with that... Because, it's not like all of a sudden accidentally I'm going to catch something and I'm going to die, and then God's like, "Oh crap, I missed that one." That's not going to happen. There's plans, there's purpose, there's things that are happening, and I have that as a belief. Maybe it's not true, but it's my belief. Therefore, because I believe that, I'm not scared of death. If it happens, that sucks, and be horrible for my kids, but, again, it's part of the plan, therefore I'm not afraid of death, because of that. Josh: Yeah. And I had never really even thought about death, until my brother obviously passed away. Russell: You came face to face with it… Josh: Yeah. Like, "Holy cow. Freak accident, helicopter crash, over in Kenya." It's like, "What the heck?" And, I flew around the world trying to figure out what I believe, and what I thought. And the conclusion, I don't know if it's a conclusion, but the belief that I have about death, is I'm like, "All right, when I die, that's when my life starts." I'm like, "Okay, cool." Like I'm, this is what I say? It's a whisper in the wind, like it's a flash in the pan. Life is, we're here, and we're given these choices. And God's like, "All right, here, you got your 80 or 90 years on life. And you get a choice, you can either choose to accept me, or reject me." And then eternity starts, or doesn't start, it always is. For me, I'm like, "Sweet." And coupled with, or partnered with, what you said of like, "I don't think God makes mistakes." So if I die, even if it's a dumb, stupid decision that I made that led to that, it's not like God didn't factor in my stupidity. And so, because I know that, it's confidence. Yeah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 May 2021 08:00:00 -0000 "Outwitting The Devil" with Josh Forti - Part 2 of 3 full 410 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to the second part of a special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh talk about their biggest “take-aways” from the book. Russell talks about a difficult time when Clickfunnels was down and instead of choosing fear and... Welcome to the second part of a special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh talk about their biggest “take-aways” from the book. Russell talks about a difficult time when Clickfunnels was down and instead of choosing fear and running from the problem, he chose to have faith in his business and fight to make it better. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you enjoyed the first part of my interview with Josh Forti, on Outwitting the Devil. This episode, I'm excited, because we're going to go a little bit deeper. We're going to start talking about some of my stories, and practical applications of how I was able to use this in my past. This story I tell, I wasn't expecting to tell this. I didn't know where he was going to go with the interview questions. We got a little emotional, but I think it was good. So I'm excited to share it with you. I'm a little nervous, but a little excited at the same time. So with that said, we're going to cue up the theme song. When we come back you can listen to episode number two, from the Josh Forti interview, about Outwitting the Devil. Josh Forti: I had a very definitive takeaway from the book. You could read a million times, and keep getting gold nuggets, but what was the thing that stuck out to you, that was the most powerful of it? That caused you to literally go on Instagram, be like, "Yo, everybody read this book right now." Russell: Everyone's in different spots, so I think it's good to read this book for everyone to kind of see where you fit. Anyway, maybe I have a distorted view of myself, but I feel like I'm somebody who acts in definitive purpose. I feel like I act in faith, most of the times. So, I feel like I'm on the side. So the thing that was so powerful for me, if you look in the middle of my thing, there's two columns here, was he started saying, he asked, he's like, "When someone uses definitive purpose, does that mean they're free from you?" He's like, "No." He's like, "As soon as they're using definitive purpose." And he's like, "These are the tools I use to try to get them to become drifters." And I started looking at the list of things he uses to get them to become drifters. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I see those patterns in my life. I see the things that are pulling me to that side as well." And it became this warning for me of like, "Okay, these are the things to protect yourself from." Because, we're not free, it's not like, I do good things therefore I'm to be good forever. It's like, no, the entire time he's trying to get you to the other side. And so for me, it was interesting. You can see some of these ones I list up here, like the temptations he uses to get someone who is free, to become a drifter. So number one, was flattery. And it was interesting, he said that the way he uses flattery, is in women, he uses vanity, and in men, he uses egotism. And I've seen that so many times in my own personal life, where with your ego and you start reading your own bio, you drink your own Kool-Aid, and you're like, "I'm amazing." And as soon as you do that, it starts shifting you from this state of freedom, to drifters. And I've seen... I've got personal friends who have let ego destroy their families, destroy their businesses, destroy their lives. And I always have fear of that, and I see myself slipping into that often. It's definitely a temptation, it's one of the things for me, that pulls me in, I'm trying to be careful of. It's funny, people always tell me, like, "I feel like you're one of the few guys in the industry that doesn't have a big ego." I'm like, "I have a huge ego." I try to be aware of it. I'm grateful for my wife. One of my buddies told me, he's like, "It wasn't for Colette." He's like, "You'd have the biggest head in the world." She's the one that keeps me focused. Josh: I feel like that's Leo with me too, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. Russell: But I think it was interesting for man, for egotism, and women, he said vanity, which is interesting too. So those are two things there. Next was failure, and he talked about failure from both sides. He said that failure can be something that actually serves you, because you fail, you see what's wrong and you read adjust, but some people go through failure, and then they slip to like, "Okay, this didn't work," and they're out. And you see that a lot. Josh: Well, and that's even here, it's learning from adversity. That's one of the key things, how do you use failure? If you're going to be a drifter, you're going to be like, "Failure. Ew yuck. I'm never going to do it again." versus a successful person. Russell: You see people all the time that fail, are like, "Oh, I tried the thing, and it didn't actually work." It's like, "Okay. It worked for 800 other people, but it didn't work for you. Maybe it was you, maybe the approach was..." It's so interesting where it's like, if... It comes back to, if you've read Jocko's book. Josh: What's Jocko's book? Extreme Ownership. Yeah. Russell: That's the thing, the failure happens, and it's like, "Oh, I going to blame it on them." Boom. Instantly you're a drifter. But if you're like, "It was me, I did it wrong. What am I going to change?" The extreme ownership, that's the shift from failure. Whereas you take extreme ownership, boom, you're staying over here, but, if you don't... And I have a problem all the time. I think something that's happened to my team, or whatever, and I want to point the finger, and it's like, "But I'm the leader of the team." But it's so much easier to point out, than point back in. And so for me, that was the one. Again, another one I noticed, when I had my failures, did I point out or in? Because if I point out, I'm slipping into drifting. Propaganda, bribes, food, sex, all these different things he was using. The food one was interesting, he was talking about, he's like, "When men and women become rich, and they have all these things, I get them through food, when they start eating and get gluttonous. And all of sudden their body gets not healthy, and then it's harder to move." And I'm sure you felt that, when you're not eating healthy, your mind gets cloudy, and all these things, it's very easy to become a drifter. And so, it's just all these tools he's using to try to get you to shift from one another. Those things were... In my time in my life right now, where I was just like, "Okay, cool. I've got walls, I can start protecting myself up. I can become more aware of it." When you're aware of something, it's so much easier to fight it, as opposed to when… Josh: Yeah. And when you're successful too, everything's convenient. And that's one of the things that he brought up in the book too. I noticed in my life, I was thinking back to when I first started, I was like, "Man, I was sleeping on my buddy's couch." For three months, and I worked my butt off, and everything like that. I'm like, "Why do I lack that drive sometimes?" Like, "Why don't I have that anymore?" It's like, "Because life is convenient." Because if I sleep until eight o'clock, or if I don't perform today, my life doesn't change at all. But back then, it did. And so when things become convenient, it's super easy to come back into that drifter mode. Russell: Yeah. A hundred percent. And that's one of the hardest thing. I think, at least for me, when I was growing up, I always thought there's a point where you made it. In fact, I remember this one time, my business was doing well at the time, we had a bunch of employees. I remember hiring this guy to come consult me on something, and he came out, and he's looking at all this stuff. And he's like, "So tell me, when was he felt like... When did you know you made it?" And I was like, "Oh, I..." I'm still freaking out. I don't feel like I made it. And I think, in my life, I always thought there's going to be a point where I'm like, "I made it, or figured the thing out." Or whatever, but I never got there. I feel like the second I do, that's when it's going to start... That's the thing. And so, I think being more aware of that, just like, this is a constant thing and that's okay, but, it's a constant between God and Satan, there's this constant... Every moment is like, each of them are fighting for. It's like, if you give up here, then you slip back over to there. You can't just... There's no neutral ground. Josh: So, I just want to talk about that, because I think one of the biggest... Well, the number one thing, like you said, of a non drifter, is the definitive purpose. And I have noticed that in my life, even recently... Over the past year, year and a half, I've been working with Katie Richardson, you know that, just really getting clear on what the next steps of things are. And my definitive purpose, if you will, when I first started my entrepreneurship journey, was this, "I just don't want to be poor anymore." I go like, "My definitive purpose is to not worry about money, and to get out of debt, and just be free. Then be able to make decisions or whatever." And then I got there, and then there was this next definitive purpose. And they were incremental, almost goals, but not like this overwhelming definitive purpose. And so, going through the process of that, of course, with my brother dying, and that whole shattering of everything. Like for you, you've built ClickFunnels, you have a wildly successful company and people look up to you, and are like, "Oh my gosh, Russell, you're on top of the world. You're amazing. You've made it." At now, you've just said, "Hey, I don't feel like I've made it yet. I still feel like I have a long way to go." How do you... A, has your purpose changed since you started, compared to where you're at now? And B, how do you continue to remind yourself of that purpose? Or how do you find that purpose? When you could do nothing for the rest of your life, and be totally fine. How do you find purpose in that? Russell: I'd be a drifter at that point. Josh: Right, you wouldn't be a drifter. I can just see Russell sitting on the beach. No, actually, I can't even imagine what that would look like, for Russell on the beach for long periods of time. But, what would that look like for you? Or, how do you find that purpose? Russell: So, you asked about if my purpose has changed. So I would say, in my mind, it's two things. There's the people that I've been called to serve has not changed, I feel like I've been called to serve entrepreneurs. Those are my people, those are the people that I'm here... And so for me, it's like, what are all the ways I can help them? So, initially it was like, "Do seminars, write books." That was the first thing, and then it's like, "Oh, we're going to build software." And then it's like, "Oh, we're doing events." And, we kept adding these things on. And so, that was the thing. And so my purpose was like, what are all the things I can do to help an entrepreneur to be more successful? That's my vision. That's my mission. That's my thing. And I feel like now that, again, after I finished the three books, I was like, I feel like that, again, that the trilogy, that's what people need. And then we have Funnel Hacking Live, that's amazing. We have these things in place, all the things there are... they're there. And I think there's things, where there's big updates, we have to company click funnels. There're other things we do to make things better, but for me, it's like, there's not a lot more, again, it's not like I'm going to come out with some magic funnel, I'm like, "God, it changes everything again." Like, it's there. Right? So for me, it's like, "Okay, I'm still called to serve these people. What's the next level of success? What's the next thing I need to do?" And for me, I started looking, like what were the things that I struggled with? And so much of it was not... It was like, I didn't have the tools, I didn't have the information, which is why the last two decades has been focused on that. But, the next thing was like, I had to become someone different, who did I have to become to be successful? I look at so many entrepreneurs who are coming into my world, these people that I'm called to serve, and giving them funnels. Man, they don't believe in themselves, they have horrible identities. They're choosing fear over faith, every single time, and they're not having success. And so, for me, it's like, "Hey, I still have the same people." So-called same.. served the same people. But, what am I... What's the next thing I need to help them with? And if you just look at my book trilogy, the first one was dotcom secrets. It's like, "They need to understand funnels." That was the book. And it was like, "Hey, now I understand funnels." And now everyone's like, "I'm building funnels." But then their funnels weren't working, they weren't converting. And I'm like, "Oh, they don't know how to tell stories, right copy, or..." So, Expert Secrets, I'm like, "Expert Secrets." It's like, "Okay, now they understand that." And I thought I was done. And then I'm like, "Okay. Some people have these funnels that have really good copy, but Facebook shut down their account and they're screwed, or they have no traffic, or whatever." And I'm like, "Oh, my people in the traffic." So, I'm getting traffic, and that was Traffic Secrets book. And so for me, the last year, year and a half, especially, as you know, we've been in this insane environment of insanity… Josh: How do you even describe it? Russell: And I'm watching these people I've been called to serve, melting down, choosing fear in every single direction, over, and over, and over, and over again. I'm seen people who don't have an identity, they don't have beliefs, they don't have rules, they don't have values. And I have all these things they need to actually have the structure, to implement. It is what we talked about. And that's why I started geeking back to this personal moments, and partially because it's for myself, because I'm trying to protect myself and strengthen myself. But for me, Hill doesn't really go deep on anything. If you look at my disc profile, one of my things is I have very, very high... my highest value is ROI. If I don't see return on investment on something, I can't do. That's why I struggled in school, that's why I struggled with so many things. That's why when I started trying to read scriptures again, I struggled with it, until I started a podcast, because now there's return on my investment. I'm going to learn this thing, but I'm going to give it to somebody else. And there's my return on investment, now I can do it, and I feel fulfilled by it. Josh: Which by the way, I'm going to plug, podcast number three is going to be about that. Russell: And the same thing here. So, I started going back through, started reading these things. And for a while it was tough, because I'm reading these things, and for me it's like, what's the return on investment? It's good for me, but, ah, I've been called to serve. It's not just... Again, I talk about this in the new book, we'll talk about it a minute. But in Expert Secrets I talk about growth and contribution. I love growth, because good for me, but I thrive on the contribution. It's me sharing that gets me excited. So I was going through these things, and that's when, probably three or four months ago, is when I was like, "Hey, I'm learning all these principles, these things, I'm doodling all this stuff." I need to have something I'm putting it towards, or else I'm not going to be able to continue the momentum I need to keep doing this, and keep figuring out these things. And so, that's why I started, as you know, on my fourth book, which is not a marketing book. Josh: Yeah. I want to talk about that. Okay. I really do want to go there. However, there's one question I want to ask you first, I want to pull back another layer of Russell, that people... I don't know. Maybe, you've told this story before. I don't know. I don't even know what the story is, I'm about to ask you. So, my number one takeaway from the book, was how much fear controls people. That was my number one thing. And, for me, and this has come through a tremendous amount of mental work, and tremendous amount of personal identity work, over the course of the past 12 to 16 months, of just tears and just facing my own fears and insecurities, and bringing them to light and working through. But, there's not a whole lot of things I'm afraid of. There're very few things where I'm looking at them, I'm like, "Oh my gosh." I just do me, and whatever. Like criticism, it doesn't really bother me, or whatever. But, there's certain instances that come up where I'm like, "Ooh, I'm afraid of failure in that specific scenario, for that specific thing." And I'd be curious to know, for you, as you built ClickFunnels, I'm sure there were moments of fear. And I'm sure there were moments, when this side of things started to creep in, but you worked through that. And so, I'd be curious to know, what was one of the biggest times when you were building ClickFunnels, that you were afraid? And how did you work through that? What's that story? Russell: Oh man. Josh: Because I feel like we hear the marketing version of it. Russell: The highlight reels. Josh: We do, right? And they serve a very specific purpose. And I always laugh when people want to criticize, like, "Russell only tells this part of the story, or whatever" I'm like, "Do you understand why he's doing that?" Like, "Do you understand it's fitting into... It's at Funnel Hacking Live, or it's at this, or whatever." I'm like, "There's a purpose for that." It's not like he's trying to do that, but I want to know the other side of it. I want to know the behind the scenes of, what was that moment where you're like, "This is not worth it. I'm going to shut it all down. Or I'm afraid that I'm not going to be able..." I don't know what the story is. Russell: Yeah, definitely for me, the part that was the hardest, it was the first year of ClickFunnels, we just launched it. And I remember, because when Todd built it he told me, he was like... And in my head, I thought we're going to get 10,000 members month one, that was in my head. And Todd was like, "Okay, well, just so you know, as soon it past 10,000 members, the way I coded it, it's going to have to be different." And I was like, "I don't know that means, but I'm going to get 10,000 members. Right?" So we go and launch it, we don't get 10,000 members, kind of depressed, but we started pursuing this thing, start working towards it. And within about a year we got 10,000 members. And during that time, ClickFunnels started doing weird things, where it would just go down for five minutes, and be back, like, "What just happened?" And like, "Oh, some blah, blah, blah, techie thing happened." And yeah, so they fixed it, like, "Hey, good." And then it goes down, this time it's down 15 minutes, and 15 minutes down.... It's funny, because one minute I'm everyone's hero, they're like, "We love you, Russell. You made our lives so much easier making money." I'm getting the messages, and just feeling the ego, and all the things they're just like... This is amazing. And then it goes down, and I want you to understand, when ClickFunnels would go down, it wasn't like, "Hey, man, it's down." It was like, "I want to kill you." Like, "You owe me $2,000 in ads for my 15 minute window that it's down." Like, "I'm going to sue you." Like death threats, I went from the hero of the day, to, "I want to kill you." And messages coming in are like... And I'm getting things, and Todd's not getting them, because no one knows... He's kind of behind the scenes, and I'm just like, you want to kill me? They're that angry? They want to sue me, they want all these things. And then, publicly posting everywhere, how horrible and how bad.... And the second someone slips, everyone wants to jump up and start throwing daggers at them, it's insane. I seen it happen to so many people. I have friends who I've seen it happen to recently, where it's like, everyone loves until they do something, and then it's just like everyone wants to pounce on- Josh: And half the time, it's not even their fault. Russell: It's crazy, if that's happening. And so, it's happening, we get back up, and then, "Is this is going to work good?" Like, "Yeah, fine." I'm like, "Okay. It's going to be good." So then we plan on that, and then again, it would go good for two, three weeks, then something happened, and it just kept happening. And the longer we go, more members happened, it would more often, it would happen longer. And, it was just horrible. Because I remember one time I was speaking at a Dan... GKC event. And I'm in the hotel room, we just got there, Dave and I were there, we're getting everything ready. And it goes down, we're down for like 30 minutes. I'm freaking out. I'm supposed to be on stage in 30 minutes, or like an hour or something, and it's down, and I messaging and I remember voxing Todd, I'm like, "Hey, it's down again." He messaged back all nice like, "Oh yeah." Like anyways, he was just like, he's like, "Oh yeah, it's down again. We'll work on it." So I messaged back, I was like, "This is happening a lot. Are you sure we're okay? You seem a little nice and calm, you okay?" It's funny, because Todd's super respectful, he doesn't ever swear around me or anything. And he messaged back, and I've never heard Todd scared before. And he messaged back, and he was... I won't repeat what he said, but it was just like, what he said and how he said it, was just like, we're screwed. He said it four or five times in a row, and then he ended. And I was just like- Josh: And you're about to go on stage? Russell: Yeah, and I was like… Josh: Oh my gosh. Russell: And I was just freaking out. I'm like, "I'm about to go on stage, and try and convinced all this audience that I've got the greatest thing in the world. And my partner who built it, is freaking out, and doesn't know how to stabilize this thing. And he's..." I remember just being sick to my stomach, scared, all these fears, all the anxiety, all the inadequacy, all those things. And I remember I'm just freaking out, and then we got it back up, and then Dave's like, "Hey, you're on in like 10 minutes." I'm like, "Oh." So, I do my things, run downstairs and then come on stage. And I was just in my head, and my mind, and my body just freaking out. And, do the presentation, I know the presentation, even if I'm scared, it's going to come out pretty similar, it converted well, people bought it, everyone's excited. I remember afterwards, it was weird, this is one of those weird things, I don't even know who it was. If you're listening, she messaged me, some dude lingered afterwards and he's like, "Um, you okay?" I'm like, "Yeah. Fine. How's it going?" And he's like a chiropractor, but like a “woo-woo” one, were they do energy stuff. And he's like, "Can I adjust you?" And I'm like, "That's weird." He's like, "No, I don't really do normal adjusting, it's this other weird kind." And I was like, "I don't know what's happening. This guy is creeping me." But for some reason, like, "Sure. Whatever." So he takes me in this other room, he starts doing adjusting, he's doing the muscle testing, and all sorts of stuff on me, which I- Josh: Just some random dude? Russell: Yeah. I'd never had that happen before, he was attending the event, so he was there. Josh: Right. Russell: And it was weird, because he starts... He's just like, "You have all this tension here, here, all these things." And he's trying to figure out why. And so, eventually, and again, some people think that that's crazy. You think that's crazy? Nowadays, I don't know, Because- Josh: No. I don't think it's crazy. Russell: Anyway. It's interesting. But, he's doing this muscle testing, and he muscle tests, and he's like, "The thing that you're experiencing right now inside your body, is a reflection of something that happened." I can't remember, it was like 3.6 years ago, or something like that. He's like, "What happened three and a half ago?" "I have no idea." I couldn't remember. And all of a sudden I was like, "Oh my gosh, that was the last time my company collapsed." And we had to... We didn't go through bankruptcy, but had to fire almost a hundred people. We had to shut everything down. It was all this stuff. And he's like, "Your body's experiencing the same things right now, that you experienced at that moment. And that's this tension and these things." Josh: Oh my gosh. Russell: It was crazy. And he did all this stuff to try to release it, and everything. But also I realized, it's like, oh my gosh. My biggest thing is, I built this thing up, people think I'm a hero again, right now. And I remember what happened three and a half years ago, when I lost everything and how much pain, and how much... All these things, the poverty I got, the criticism I got, the ill health I got, the loss of love I got, friends, family, coworkers walking out on me. I wanted to die. I'm over the edge. All my greatest fears came back in that moment, and I'm in this spot, and I don't know how to fix it, because I can't code. I go to college and learn how to code? I don't what to do. Josh: That's the worst, oh man. Russell: The next week… Josh: It's out of your hands. Russell: We're flying to London, to speak in London. They invited my family to come to me. So, my wife and kids were all flying in London, and I told parts of this story before, but we're in the air, everything's good. The kids are having so much fun, they're flying. And we land, we get to London, and there's... In your phones, the chips don't work, so you have to- Josh: Yeah. You got to swap them. Russell: So we're driving around, and finally get our chips in there, and as soon as it does, all of a sudden, my phone was just like... And I don't know what it is, so I'm looking, and there's text messages, there's instant messages, there's voxers, there's all these things, hundreds, I'm not exaggerating, people are like, "A hundred's, probably like 10." No, hundreds and hundreds on every platform, where people sending me death threats, sending me they want to kill me, send me the hate me, send me I'm screwing them over, sending me all that... just this stuff, and I'm looking at my phone, and I'm just like, "I don't even know what happen." So I'm finally trying to get Todd, I got ahold of him, and he's like, "Yeah, we're down. We've been down for four or five hours." He's like, "If we're able to get it back up." And all I remember him saying, if, and not when, and I was just like- Josh: And you're in London. Russell: With my family. Josh: About to speak. Russell: And so, I don't even know. I went back to the hotel room, and we had two hotels conjoining for the kids. I was like, "Hey, I'm going to go in this room for a minute." And I shut the door, and I'm just like, I don't know what to do. We're down. I don't know if we're getting it back up. So, to speak the next day to talk about click funnels. And it was one of the things where I was just in so much fear, I wanted to hide. I just wanted to not say anything. I just wanted to be quiet. Josh: Yeah. Especially as an introvert. Russell: Yeah. Especially and introvert who's got literally hundreds of people telling me how much they hate me. And, I don't know want to do. And this one of those moments where it's just like, the fear and the faith, I wanted to go to fear. That sounds so nice, just to hide and... But I was like, I can't, because this is my life. This is all this stuff we've worked for, for so long. And, in that moment I had impression of, you should go live on Facebook. I'm like, "I don't want to live on Facebook." They're like, "You have to. You have to tell people what's happening." I was like, "What kind of CEO, in the middle of this crash, gets online and like, Hey, our company's down." And put on the happy face, like, "It's okay, because... let me blame the servers." I had a million people I could blame, because it was... Josh: It's not your fault Russell. It's never your fault, right? Russell: So, finally, I was like, "All right." So I just, I told the kids, "I'm going to be on in 15 minutes." So I clicked go, and all of a sudden I'm live. And of course, because it's live, everybody pops in, because they're trying to figure out... Because they all want to kill me. Like, "Russell's here, this is our time." And first it popped up, you start seeing the comments, like, "You're effing killed... You killed my business." Like all these things, and just like, "You owe me, how much money." Like all these things, and I'm just like, "Okay." And instead of doing what I wanted to do, which was blame, point to other people. I was like, "I'm pissed." And I was like, "This is not okay." Like, "My business is down, your business is down. You trusted me. You trusted us. We are not doing this right. This is not acceptable." I'm not like... And I tried my best. In fact, the video's still live, it's on... If you go to my Facebook page, and go to videos and scroll down to year one of click funnels, the video's still live there. Josh: That's crazy. Russell: And, basically I just tried… Josh: Somebody go find it and post in the comments. Seriously. I'd love to see it. Russell: Yeah. And I just posted it, I can't remember if I posted in the ClickFunnels group, or maybe it was in my... Anyway, I remember I found a little while ago to look at it again, I remember watching it, I was just like, "Whoa, that sucked." But I did my best, try to take that. Definitive purposes, this is not okay, this is what we're trying to do. I'm just going to take faith. And it was crazy, because I remember we posted that, while Todd and the team was working their butts off. And luckily through so many miracles, they got everything back up. We had a backup from right, for a hit. We didn't lose anything, other than the eight hours we were down. And we expected the next day that half our members would cancel, everything's going to be gone. And it was crazy how by taking the action of faith, people came in, and instead of being upset, they're like, "You know what, thank you. Thank you for not hiding. Thank you for telling us you're upset. Thank you for understanding this is not acceptable, and not trying to be like, oh, thanks for taking responsibility. And over the next week, we didn't see any... It wasn't like, signups and cancellation, we watched those two numbers all the time, it wasn't a big drop. It was just like... It didn't change. And, after that we made changes, we figured things out, we got things solid and looking stable. And that was the last time we went down for more than a little blip here or there. But that was probably the biggest thing, and I remember just being... Anyway. Josh: That's crazy. Well, I think, that comes back to having a definitive purpose, because you had a goal, you were all in. Because, without that, you throw in the towel, and you say this isn't worth it. If you are not crystal, crystal clear, or at least very, very emotionally attached to that outcome, or to that goal of that definitive purpose of where you're at, you should shut everything down there, and you walk. That's crazy. I've never heard that story before. Russell: I'm sweating reliving it. Thanks for that. Josh: No problem. I'm sure the audience loved it though. Russell: Anyway, it was a scary, scary time in between those two things happening back to back. And like I said, and then we started working towards it, and man, Todd and Ryan, and all the people on our team who went and who figured out the problems, and solidified things, and brought in the right people. It's crazy, because people with click funnels are like, "You should know how to not go down." It's like, "You don't understand. At that point, we went from a bunch of entrepreneurs trying to make something, to like, at that point we were like the 300th most visited website in the world." And there's not many people on this planet who know how to handle the database architecture behind that. We didn't know how to do it, and so we're trying to find people. We literally hired people who, they're charging 10 grand an hour to do database administration. So, you hire them, like, "Okay, here's 20 grand. You get two hours to look." So they log in and look around, like, "Here's all the mistakes." And then they go back, and go try to fix them. Then like, "Hey, here's another 10 grand, another hour." Like that's the people who like ran eBay and Amazon. Those are people you have to hire to come and look at these problems, because they're not problems that most people deal with. And if you think about it, we tell you we have 120,000 members, that's true. That's 120,000 people's websites, most of them more than one, most of them 10, 20, 50, a hundred. There's... I don't know, quarter million, half a million websites running all on our servers. No one knows that stuff. Josh: Brad, how many do we have? How many? Brad's over here they already probably got 50, just there. No, we'll run it through. Russell: These are problems, not normal problems most people know how to solve. We don't know how to solve them. So it's like, "How do we do that?" Every level there's new level of stress and problems, and things that they keep coming up, that you just... If you don't have that definitive purpose, and that dream, and that vision, that thing, there's so many things pulling you off the path. There's a million things trying to pull you to become a drifter, from flattery, to failure, to propaganda, bribes, to... All these things are trying to do that, the world's stacked against you. In fact, according the book, 98% of people are there. Josh: Yeah 98%. That's crazy. Russell: So, first off, it comes back to, if you want to shift yourself back, the very first thing is, come back to very first questions, like, "Am I doing this decision based on faith or fear?" That's the transition point, it's not like, "Okay I got to fix all this crap. And I got to..." No, it's like, come back to the very beginning, and if you start shifting your decision making process, to like, "I'm scared." You can still be scared, you still have fear. I still have fear all the time, I'm sure you do too. I'm like, "Do I do that?" But, you don't act in fear, you act in faith. Like, "Okay, I could lose everything, I could be criticized. I could, I could, I could..." But, this is my definitive purpose, this is my vision, this is where I have to go. Therefore, I will act in faith, regardless of these things that they happen. I have to be okay with the worst case scenario. I have to be okay, that if I screw up people are going criticize me, or else I'm not going to be able to move forward in faith. And that's the conundrum. That's where you have to get thick skin, and be okay with these things. And I think for me, I've tried it, I spend time consciously thinking about each of these. Like you talked about death, you don't fear death, for me, for a big part of my life I did fear death. And there's parts of me... I'm thinking about it today, if I was to die, I wouldn't be scared of death, I'd be scared of my kids not having a dad. But, the thing, the belief that I have, and the new book goes deep into these kinds of things, that I'm real excited to share. But, my belief about death, we have to have beliefs, and values, and rules around all these kind of things. But my belief about death is, I strongly, strongly, strongly believe that none of us will live on this planet one second longer or shorter than God wants us to. I believe that to my core soul. So, because I'm okay with that... Because, it's not like all of a sudden accidentally I'm going to catch something and I'm going to die, and then God's like, "Oh crap, I missed that one." That's not going to happen. There's plans, there's purpose, there's things that are happening, and I have that as a belief. Maybe it's not true, but it's my belief. Therefore, because I believe that, I'm not scared of death. If it happens, that sucks, and be horrible for my kids, but, again, it's part of the plan, therefore I'm not afraid of death, because of that. Josh: Yeah. And I had never really even thought about death, until my brother obviously passed away. Russell: You came face to face with it… Josh: Yeah. Like, "Holy cow. Freak accident, helicopter crash, over in Kenya." It's like, "What the heck?" And, I flew around the world trying to figure out what I believe, and what I thought. And the conclusion, I don't know if it's a conclusion, but the belief that I have about death, is I'm like, "All right, when I die, that's when my life starts." I'm like, "Okay, cool." Like I'm, this is what I say? It's a whisper in the wind, like it's a flash in the pan. Life is, we're here, and we're given these choices. And God's like, "All right, here, you got your 80 or 90 years on life. And you get a choice, you can either choose to accept me, or reject me." And then eternity starts, or doesn't start, it always is. For me, I'm like, "Sweet." And coupled with, or partnered with, what you said of like, "I don't think God makes mistakes." So if I die, even if it's a dumb, stupid decision that I made that led to that, it's not like God didn't factor in my stupidity. And so, because I know that, it's confidence. Yeah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome to the second part of a special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh talk about their biggest “take-aways” from the book. Russell talks about a difficult time when Clickfunnels was down and instead of choosing fear and running from the problem, he chose to have faith in his business and fight to make it better.

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Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you enjoyed the first part of my interview with Josh Forti, on Outwitting the Devil. This episode, I'm excited, because we're going to go a little bit deeper. We're going to start talking about some of my stories, and practical applications of how I was able to use this in my past. This story I tell, I wasn't expecting to tell this. I didn't know where he was going to go with the interview questions. We got a little emotional, but I think it was good. So I'm excited to share it with you. I'm a little nervous, but a little excited at the same time. So with that said, we're going to cue up the theme song. When we come back you can listen to episode number two, from the Josh Forti interview, about Outwitting the Devil.

Josh Forti: I had a very definitive takeaway from the book. You could read a million times, and keep getting gold nuggets, but what was the thing that stuck out to you, that was the most powerful of it? That caused you to literally go on Instagram, be like, "Yo, everybody read this book right now."

Russell: Everyone's in different spots, so I think it's good to read this book for everyone to kind of see where you fit. Anyway, maybe I have a distorted view of myself, but I feel like I'm somebody who acts in definitive purpose. I feel like I act in faith, most of the times. So, I feel like I'm on the side. So the thing that was so powerful for me, if you look in the middle of my thing, there's two columns here, was he started saying, he asked, he's like, "When someone uses definitive purpose, does that mean they're free from you?" He's like, "No." He's like, "As soon as they're using definitive purpose." And he's like, "These are the tools I use to try to get them to become drifters." And I started looking at the list of things he uses to get them to become drifters.

And I was like, "Oh my gosh, I see those patterns in my life. I see the things that are pulling me to that side as well." And it became this warning for me of like, "Okay, these are the things to protect yourself from." Because, we're not free, it's not like, I do good things therefore I'm to be good forever. It's like, no, the entire time he's trying to get you to the other side. And so for me, it was interesting. You can see some of these ones I list up here, like the temptations he uses to get someone who is free, to become a drifter. So number one, was flattery. And it was interesting, he said that the way he uses flattery, is in women, he uses vanity, and in men, he uses egotism.

And I've seen that so many times in my own personal life, where with your ego and you start reading your own bio, you drink your own Kool-Aid, and you're like, "I'm amazing." And as soon as you do that, it starts shifting you from this state of freedom, to drifters. And I've seen... I've got personal friends who have let ego destroy their families, destroy their businesses, destroy their lives. And I always have fear of that, and I see myself slipping into that often. It's definitely a temptation, it's one of the things for me, that pulls me in, I'm trying to be careful of. It's funny, people always tell me, like, "I feel like you're one of the few guys in the industry that doesn't have a big ego." I'm like, "I have a huge ego." I try to be aware of it. I'm grateful for my wife. One of my buddies told me, he's like, "It wasn't for Colette." He's like, "You'd have the biggest head in the world." She's the one that keeps me focused.

Josh: I feel like that's Leo with me too, a hundred percent. A hundred percent.

Russell: But I think it was interesting for man, for egotism, and women, he said vanity, which is interesting too. So those are two things there. Next was failure, and he talked about failure from both sides. He said that failure can be something that actually serves you, because you fail, you see what's wrong and you read adjust, but some people go through failure, and then they slip to like, "Okay, this didn't work," and they're out. And you see that a lot.

Josh: Well, and that's even here, it's learning from adversity. That's one of the key things, how do you use failure? If you're going to be a drifter, you're going to be like, "Failure. Ew yuck. I'm never going to do it again." versus a successful person.

Russell: You see people all the time that fail, are like, "Oh, I tried the thing, and it didn't actually work." It's like, "Okay. It worked for 800 other people, but it didn't work for you. Maybe it was you, maybe the approach was..." It's so interesting where it's like, if... It comes back to, if you've read Jocko's book.

Josh: What's Jocko's book? Extreme Ownership. Yeah.

Russell: That's the thing, the failure happens, and it's like, "Oh, I going to blame it on them." Boom. Instantly you're a drifter. But if you're like, "It was me, I did it wrong. What am I going to change?" The extreme ownership, that's the shift from failure. Whereas you take extreme ownership, boom, you're staying over here, but, if you don't... And I have a problem all the time. I think something that's happened to my team, or whatever, and I want to point the finger, and it's like, "But I'm the leader of the team." But it's so much easier to point out, than point back in. And so for me, that was the one. Again, another one I noticed, when I had my failures, did I point out or in? Because if I point out, I'm slipping into drifting.

Propaganda, bribes, food, sex, all these different things he was using. The food one was interesting, he was talking about, he's like, "When men and women become rich, and they have all these things, I get them through food, when they start eating and get gluttonous. And all of sudden their body gets not healthy, and then it's harder to move." And I'm sure you felt that, when you're not eating healthy, your mind gets cloudy, and all these things, it's very easy to become a drifter. And so, it's just all these tools he's using to try to get you to shift from one another. Those things were... In my time in my life right now, where I was just like, "Okay, cool. I've got walls, I can start protecting myself up. I can become more aware of it." When you're aware of something, it's so much easier to fight it, as opposed to when…

Josh: Yeah. And when you're successful too, everything's convenient. And that's one of the things that he brought up in the book too. I noticed in my life, I was thinking back to when I first started, I was like, "Man, I was sleeping on my buddy's couch." For three months, and I worked my butt off, and everything like that. I'm like, "Why do I lack that drive sometimes?" Like, "Why don't I have that anymore?" It's like, "Because life is convenient." Because if I sleep until eight o'clock, or if I don't perform today, my life doesn't change at all. But back then, it did. And so when things become convenient, it's super easy to come back into that drifter mode.

Russell: Yeah. A hundred percent. And that's one of the hardest thing. I think, at least for me, when I was growing up, I always thought there's a point where you made it. In fact, I remember this one time, my business was doing well at the time, we had a bunch of employees. I remember hiring this guy to come consult me on something, and he came out, and he's looking at all this stuff. And he's like, "So tell me, when was he felt like... When did you know you made it?"

And I was like, "Oh, I..." I'm still freaking out. I don't feel like I made it. And I think, in my life, I always thought there's going to be a point where I'm like, "I made it, or figured the thing out." Or whatever, but I never got there. I feel like the second I do, that's when it's going to start... That's the thing. And so, I think being more aware of that, just like, this is a constant thing and that's okay, but, it's a constant between God and Satan, there's this constant... Every moment is like, each of them are fighting for. It's like, if you give up here, then you slip back over to there. You can't just... There's no neutral ground.

Josh: So, I just want to talk about that, because I think one of the biggest... Well, the number one thing, like you said, of a non drifter, is the definitive purpose. And I have noticed that in my life, even recently... Over the past year, year and a half, I've been working with Katie Richardson, you know that, just really getting clear on what the next steps of things are. And my definitive purpose, if you will, when I first started my entrepreneurship journey, was this, "I just don't want to be poor anymore." I go like, "My definitive purpose is to not worry about money, and to get out of debt, and just be free. Then be able to make decisions or whatever." And then I got there, and then there was this next definitive purpose.

And they were incremental, almost goals, but not like this overwhelming definitive purpose. And so, going through the process of that, of course, with my brother dying, and that whole shattering of everything. Like for you, you've built ClickFunnels, you have a wildly successful company and people look up to you, and are like, "Oh my gosh, Russell, you're on top of the world. You're amazing. You've made it." At now, you've just said, "Hey, I don't feel like I've made it yet. I still feel like I have a long way to go." How do you... A, has your purpose changed since you started, compared to where you're at now? And B, how do you continue to remind yourself of that purpose? Or how do you find that purpose? When you could do nothing for the rest of your life, and be totally fine. How do you find purpose in that?

Russell: I'd be a drifter at that point.

Josh: Right, you wouldn't be a drifter. I can just see Russell sitting on the beach. No, actually, I can't even imagine what that would look like, for Russell on the beach for long periods of time. But, what would that look like for you? Or, how do you find that purpose?

Russell: So, you asked about if my purpose has changed. So I would say, in my mind, it's two things. There's the people that I've been called to serve has not changed, I feel like I've been called to serve entrepreneurs. Those are my people, those are the people that I'm here... And so for me, it's like, what are all the ways I can help them? So, initially it was like, "Do seminars, write books." That was the first thing, and then it's like, "Oh, we're going to build software." And then it's like, "Oh, we're doing events." And, we kept adding these things on. And so, that was the thing. And so my purpose was like, what are all the things I can do to help an entrepreneur to be more successful? That's my vision.

That's my mission. That's my thing. And I feel like now that, again, after I finished the three books, I was like, I feel like that, again, that the trilogy, that's what people need. And then we have Funnel Hacking Live, that's amazing. We have these things in place, all the things there are... they're there. And I think there's things, where there's big updates, we have to company click funnels. There're other things we do to make things better, but for me, it's like, there's not a lot more, again, it's not like I'm going to come out with some magic funnel, I'm like, "God, it changes everything again." Like, it's there. Right? So for me, it's like, "Okay, I'm still called to serve these people. What's the next level of success? What's the next thing I need to do?"

And for me, I started looking, like what were the things that I struggled with? And so much of it was not... It was like, I didn't have the tools, I didn't have the information, which is why the last two decades has been focused on that. But, the next thing was like, I had to become someone different, who did I have to become to be successful? I look at so many entrepreneurs who are coming into my world, these people that I'm called to serve, and giving them funnels. Man, they don't believe in themselves, they have horrible identities. They're choosing fear over faith, every single time, and they're not having success. And so, for me, it's like, "Hey, I still have the same people." So-called same.. served the same people. But, what am I... What's the next thing I need to help them with?

And if you just look at my book trilogy, the first one was dotcom secrets. It's like, "They need to understand funnels." That was the book. And it was like, "Hey, now I understand funnels." And now everyone's like, "I'm building funnels." But then their funnels weren't working, they weren't converting. And I'm like, "Oh, they don't know how to tell stories, right copy, or..." So, Expert Secrets, I'm like, "Expert Secrets." It's like, "Okay, now they understand that." And I thought I was done. And then I'm like, "Okay. Some people have these funnels that have really good copy, but Facebook shut down their account and they're screwed, or they have no traffic, or whatever." And I'm like, "Oh, my people in the traffic." So, I'm getting traffic, and that was Traffic Secrets book. And so for me, the last year, year and a half, especially, as you know, we've been in this insane environment of insanity…

Josh: How do you even describe it?

Russell: And I'm watching these people I've been called to serve, melting down, choosing fear in every single direction, over, and over, and over, and over again. I'm seen people who don't have an identity, they don't have beliefs, they don't have rules, they don't have values. And I have all these things they need to actually have the structure, to implement. It is what we talked about. And that's why I started geeking back to this personal moments, and partially because it's for myself, because I'm trying to protect myself and strengthen myself. But for me, Hill doesn't really go deep on anything.

If you look at my disc profile, one of my things is I have very, very high... my highest value is ROI. If I don't see return on investment on something, I can't do. That's why I struggled in school, that's why I struggled with so many things. That's why when I started trying to read scriptures again, I struggled with it, until I started a podcast, because now there's return on my investment. I'm going to learn this thing, but I'm going to give it to somebody else. And there's my return on investment, now I can do it, and I feel fulfilled by it.

Josh: Which by the way, I'm going to plug, podcast number three is going to be about that.

Russell: And the same thing here. So, I started going back through, started reading these things. And for a while it was tough, because I'm reading these things, and for me it's like, what's the return on investment? It's good for me, but, ah, I've been called to serve. It's not just... Again, I talk about this in the new book, we'll talk about it a minute. But in Expert Secrets I talk about growth and contribution. I love growth, because good for me, but I thrive on the contribution. It's me sharing that gets me excited. So I was going through these things, and that's when, probably three or four months ago, is when I was like, "Hey, I'm learning all these principles, these things, I'm doodling all this stuff." I need to have something I'm putting it towards, or else I'm not going to be able to continue the momentum I need to keep doing this, and keep figuring out these things. And so, that's why I started, as you know, on my fourth book, which is not a marketing book.

Josh: Yeah. I want to talk about that. Okay. I really do want to go there. However, there's one question I want to ask you first, I want to pull back another layer of Russell, that people... I don't know. Maybe, you've told this story before. I don't know. I don't even know what the story is, I'm about to ask you. So, my number one takeaway from the book, was how much fear controls people. That was my number one thing. And, for me, and this has come through a tremendous amount of mental work, and tremendous amount of personal identity work, over the course of the past 12 to 16 months, of just tears and just facing my own fears and insecurities, and bringing them to light and working through.

But, there's not a whole lot of things I'm afraid of. There're very few things where I'm looking at them, I'm like, "Oh my gosh." I just do me, and whatever. Like criticism, it doesn't really bother me, or whatever. But, there's certain instances that come up where I'm like, "Ooh, I'm afraid of failure in that specific scenario, for that specific thing." And I'd be curious to know, for you, as you built ClickFunnels, I'm sure there were moments of fear. And I'm sure there were moments, when this side of things started to creep in, but you worked through that. And so, I'd be curious to know, what was one of the biggest times when you were building ClickFunnels, that you were afraid? And how did you work through that? What's that story?

Russell: Oh man.

Josh: Because I feel like we hear the marketing version of it.

Russell: The highlight reels.

Josh: We do, right? And they serve a very specific purpose. And I always laugh when people want to criticize, like, "Russell only tells this part of the story, or whatever" I'm like, "Do you understand why he's doing that?" Like, "Do you understand it's fitting into... It's at Funnel Hacking Live, or it's at this, or whatever." I'm like, "There's a purpose for that." It's not like he's trying to do that, but I want to know the other side of it. I want to know the behind the scenes of, what was that moment where you're like, "This is not worth it. I'm going to shut it all down. Or I'm afraid that I'm not going to be able..." I don't know what the story is.

Russell: Yeah, definitely for me, the part that was the hardest, it was the first year of ClickFunnels, we just launched it. And I remember, because when Todd built it he told me, he was like... And in my head, I thought we're going to get 10,000 members month one, that was in my head. And Todd was like, "Okay, well, just so you know, as soon it past 10,000 members, the way I coded it, it's going to have to be different." And I was like, "I don't know that means, but I'm going to get 10,000 members. Right?" So we go and launch it, we don't get 10,000 members, kind of depressed, but we started pursuing this thing, start working towards it. And within about a year we got 10,000 members.

And during that time, ClickFunnels started doing weird things, where it would just go down for five minutes, and be back, like, "What just happened?" And like, "Oh, some blah, blah, blah, techie thing happened." And yeah, so they fixed it, like, "Hey, good." And then it goes down, this time it's down 15 minutes, and 15 minutes down.... It's funny, because one minute I'm everyone's hero, they're like, "We love you, Russell. You made our lives so much easier making money."

I'm getting the messages, and just feeling the ego, and all the things they're just like... This is amazing. And then it goes down, and I want you to understand, when ClickFunnels would go down, it wasn't like, "Hey, man, it's down." It was like, "I want to kill you." Like, "You owe me $2,000 in ads for my 15 minute window that it's down." Like, "I'm going to sue you." Like death threats, I went from the hero of the day, to, "I want to kill you." And messages coming in are like... And I'm getting things, and Todd's not getting them, because no one knows... He's kind of behind the scenes, and I'm just like, you want to kill me? They're that angry? They want to sue me, they want all these things.

And then, publicly posting everywhere, how horrible and how bad.... And the second someone slips, everyone wants to jump up and start throwing daggers at them, it's insane. I seen it happen to so many people. I have friends who I've seen it happen to recently, where it's like, everyone loves until they do something, and then it's just like everyone wants to pounce on-

Josh: And half the time, it's not even their fault.

Russell: It's crazy, if that's happening. And so, it's happening, we get back up, and then, "Is this is going to work good?" Like, "Yeah, fine." I'm like, "Okay. It's going to be good." So then we plan on that, and then again, it would go good for two, three weeks, then something happened, and it just kept happening. And the longer we go, more members happened, it would more often, it would happen longer. And, it was just horrible. Because I remember one time I was speaking at a Dan... GKC event. And I'm in the hotel room, we just got there, Dave and I were there, we're getting everything ready. And it goes down, we're down for like 30 minutes. I'm freaking out. I'm supposed to be on stage in 30 minutes, or like an hour or something, and it's down, and I messaging and I remember voxing Todd, I'm like, "Hey, it's down again."

He messaged back all nice like, "Oh yeah." Like anyways, he was just like, he's like, "Oh yeah, it's down again. We'll work on it." So I messaged back, I was like, "This is happening a lot. Are you sure we're okay? You seem a little nice and calm, you okay?" It's funny, because Todd's super respectful, he doesn't ever swear around me or anything. And he messaged back, and I've never heard Todd scared before. And he messaged back, and he was... I won't repeat what he said, but it was just like, what he said and how he said it, was just like, we're screwed. He said it four or five times in a row, and then he ended. And I was just like-

Josh: And you're about to go on stage?

Russell: Yeah, and I was like…

Josh: Oh my gosh.

Russell: And I was just freaking out. I'm like, "I'm about to go on stage, and try and convinced all this audience that I've got the greatest thing in the world. And my partner who built it, is freaking out, and doesn't know how to stabilize this thing. And he's..." I remember just being sick to my stomach, scared, all these fears, all the anxiety, all the inadequacy, all those things. And I remember I'm just freaking out, and then we got it back up, and then Dave's like, "Hey, you're on in like 10 minutes." I'm like, "Oh." So, I do my things, run downstairs and then come on stage. And I was just in my head, and my mind, and my body just freaking out. And, do the presentation, I know the presentation, even if I'm scared, it's going to come out pretty similar, it converted well, people bought it, everyone's excited.

I remember afterwards, it was weird, this is one of those weird things, I don't even know who it was. If you're listening, she messaged me, some dude lingered afterwards and he's like, "Um, you okay?" I'm like, "Yeah. Fine. How's it going?" And he's like a chiropractor, but like a “woo-woo” one, were they do energy stuff. And he's like, "Can I adjust you?" And I'm like, "That's weird." He's like, "No, I don't really do normal adjusting, it's this other weird kind." And I was like, "I don't know what's happening. This guy is creeping me." But for some reason, like, "Sure. Whatever." So he takes me in this other room, he starts doing adjusting, he's doing the muscle testing, and all sorts of stuff on me, which I-

Josh: Just some random dude?

Russell: Yeah. I'd never had that happen before, he was attending the event, so he was there.

Josh: Right.

Russell: And it was weird, because he starts... He's just like, "You have all this tension here, here, all these things." And he's trying to figure out why. And so, eventually, and again, some people think that that's crazy. You think that's crazy? Nowadays, I don't know, Because-

Josh: No. I don't think it's crazy.

Russell: Anyway. It's interesting. But, he's doing this muscle testing, and he muscle tests, and he's like, "The thing that you're experiencing right now inside your body, is a reflection of something that happened." I can't remember, it was like 3.6 years ago, or something like that. He's like, "What happened three and a half ago?" "I have no idea." I couldn't remember. And all of a sudden I was like, "Oh my gosh, that was the last time my company collapsed." And we had to... We didn't go through bankruptcy, but had to fire almost a hundred people. We had to shut everything down. It was all this stuff. And he's like, "Your body's experiencing the same things right now, that you experienced at that moment. And that's this tension and these things."

Josh: Oh my gosh.

Russell: It was crazy. And he did all this stuff to try to release it, and everything. But also I realized, it's like, oh my gosh. My biggest thing is, I built this thing up, people think I'm a hero again, right now. And I remember what happened three and a half years ago, when I lost everything and how much pain, and how much... All these things, the poverty I got, the criticism I got, the ill health I got, the loss of love I got, friends, family, coworkers walking out on me. I wanted to die. I'm over the edge. All my greatest fears came back in that moment, and I'm in this spot, and I don't know how to fix it, because I can't code. I go to college and learn how to code? I don't what to do.

Josh: That's the worst, oh man.

Russell: The next week…

Josh: It's out of your hands.

Russell: We're flying to London, to speak in London. They invited my family to come to me. So, my wife and kids were all flying in London, and I told parts of this story before, but we're in the air, everything's good. The kids are having so much fun, they're flying. And we land, we get to London, and there's... In your phones, the chips don't work, so you have to-

Josh: Yeah. You got to swap them.

Russell: So we're driving around, and finally get our chips in there, and as soon as it does, all of a sudden, my phone was just like... And I don't know what it is, so I'm looking, and there's text messages, there's instant messages, there's voxers, there's all these things, hundreds, I'm not exaggerating, people are like, "A hundred's, probably like 10." No, hundreds and hundreds on every platform, where people sending me death threats, sending me they want to kill me, send me the hate me, send me I'm screwing them over, sending me all that... just this stuff, and I'm looking at my phone, and I'm just like, "I don't even know what happen."

So I'm finally trying to get Todd, I got ahold of him, and he's like, "Yeah, we're down. We've been down for four or five hours." He's like, "If we're able to get it back up." And all I remember him saying, if, and not when, and I was just like-

Josh: And you're in London.

Russell: With my family.

Josh: About to speak.

Russell: And so, I don't even know. I went back to the hotel room, and we had two hotels conjoining for the kids. I was like, "Hey, I'm going to go in this room for a minute." And I shut the door, and I'm just like, I don't know what to do. We're down. I don't know if we're getting it back up. So, to speak the next day to talk about click funnels. And it was one of the things where I was just in so much fear, I wanted to hide. I just wanted to not say anything. I just wanted to be quiet.

Josh: Yeah. Especially as an introvert.

Russell: Yeah. Especially and introvert who's got literally hundreds of people telling me how much they hate me. And, I don't know want to do. And this one of those moments where it's just like, the fear and the faith, I wanted to go to fear. That sounds so nice, just to hide and... But I was like, I can't, because this is my life. This is all this stuff we've worked for, for so long. And, in that moment I had impression of, you should go live on Facebook. I'm like, "I don't want to live on Facebook." They're like, "You have to. You have to tell people what's happening." I was like, "What kind of CEO, in the middle of this crash, gets online and like, Hey, our company's down." And put on the happy face, like, "It's okay, because... let me blame the servers." I had a million people I could blame, because it was...

Josh: It's not your fault Russell. It's never your fault, right?

Russell: So, finally, I was like, "All right." So I just, I told the kids, "I'm going to be on in 15 minutes." So I clicked go, and all of a sudden I'm live. And of course, because it's live, everybody pops in, because they're trying to figure out... Because they all want to kill me. Like, "Russell's here, this is our time." And first it popped up, you start seeing the comments, like, "You're effing killed... You killed my business." Like all these things, and just like, "You owe me, how much money." Like all these things, and I'm just like, "Okay." And instead of doing what I wanted to do, which was blame, point to other people. I was like, "I'm pissed." And I was like, "This is not okay." Like, "My business is down, your business is down. You trusted me. You trusted us. We are not doing this right. This is not acceptable." I'm not like...

And I tried my best. In fact, the video's still live, it's on... If you go to my Facebook page, and go to videos and scroll down to year one of click funnels, the video's still live there.

Josh: That's crazy.

Russell: And, basically I just tried…

Josh: Somebody go find it and post in the comments. Seriously. I'd love to see it.

Russell: Yeah. And I just posted it, I can't remember if I posted in the ClickFunnels group, or maybe it was in my... Anyway, I remember I found a little while ago to look at it again, I remember watching it, I was just like, "Whoa, that sucked." But I did my best, try to take that. Definitive purposes, this is not okay, this is what we're trying to do. I'm just going to take faith. And it was crazy, because I remember we posted that, while Todd and the team was working their butts off.

And luckily through so many miracles, they got everything back up. We had a backup from right, for a hit. We didn't lose anything, other than the eight hours we were down. And we expected the next day that half our members would cancel, everything's going to be gone. And it was crazy how by taking the action of faith, people came in, and instead of being upset, they're like, "You know what, thank you. Thank you for not hiding. Thank you for telling us you're upset. Thank you for understanding this is not acceptable, and not trying to be like, oh, thanks for taking responsibility. And over the next week, we didn't see any... It wasn't like, signups and cancellation, we watched those two numbers all the time, it wasn't a big drop. It was just like... It didn't change. And, after that we made changes, we figured things out, we got things solid and looking stable. And that was the last time we went down for more than a little blip here or there. But that was probably the biggest thing, and I remember just being... Anyway.

Josh: That's crazy. Well, I think, that comes back to having a definitive purpose, because you had a goal, you were all in. Because, without that, you throw in the towel, and you say this isn't worth it. If you are not crystal, crystal clear, or at least very, very emotionally attached to that outcome, or to that goal of that definitive purpose of where you're at, you should shut everything down there, and you walk. That's crazy. I've never heard that story before.

Russell: I'm sweating reliving it. Thanks for that.

Josh: No problem. I'm sure the audience loved it though.

Russell: Anyway, it was a scary, scary time in between those two things happening back to back. And like I said, and then we started working towards it, and man, Todd and Ryan, and all the people on our team who went and who figured out the problems, and solidified things, and brought in the right people. It's crazy, because people with click funnels are like, "You should know how to not go down." It's like, "You don't understand. At that point, we went from a bunch of entrepreneurs trying to make something, to like, at that point we were like the 300th most visited website in the world." And there's not many people on this planet who know how to handle the database architecture behind that. We didn't know how to do it, and so we're trying to find people. We literally hired people who, they're charging 10 grand an hour to do database administration.

So, you hire them, like, "Okay, here's 20 grand. You get two hours to look." So they log in and look around, like, "Here's all the mistakes." And then they go back, and go try to fix them. Then like, "Hey, here's another 10 grand, another hour." Like that's the people who like ran eBay and Amazon. Those are people you have to hire to come and look at these problems, because they're not problems that most people deal with. And if you think about it, we tell you we have 120,000 members, that's true. That's 120,000 people's websites, most of them more than one, most of them 10, 20, 50, a hundred. There's... I don't know, quarter million, half a million websites running all on our servers. No one knows that stuff.

Josh: Brad, how many do we have? How many? Brad's over here they already probably got 50, just there. No, we'll run it through.

Russell: These are problems, not normal problems most people know how to solve. We don't know how to solve them. So it's like, "How do we do that?" Every level there's new level of stress and problems, and things that they keep coming up, that you just... If you don't have that definitive purpose, and that dream, and that vision, that thing, there's so many things pulling you off the path. There's a million things trying to pull you to become a drifter, from flattery, to failure, to propaganda, bribes, to... All these things are trying to do that, the world's stacked against you. In fact, according the book, 98% of people are there.

Josh: Yeah 98%. That's crazy.

Russell: So, first off, it comes back to, if you want to shift yourself back, the very first thing is, come back to very first questions, like, "Am I doing this decision based on faith or fear?" That's the transition point, it's not like, "Okay I got to fix all this crap. And I got to..." No, it's like, come back to the very beginning, and if you start shifting your decision making process, to like, "I'm scared." You can still be scared, you still have fear. I still have fear all the time, I'm sure you do too. I'm like, "Do I do that?" But, you don't act in fear, you act in faith. Like, "Okay, I could lose everything, I could be criticized. I could, I could, I could..." But, this is my definitive purpose, this is my vision, this is where I have to go. Therefore, I will act in faith, regardless of these things that they happen. I have to be okay with the worst case scenario. I have to be okay, that if I screw up people are going criticize me, or else I'm not going to be able to move forward in faith.

And that's the conundrum. That's where you have to get thick skin, and be okay with these things. And I think for me, I've tried it, I spend time consciously thinking about each of these. Like you talked about death, you don't fear death, for me, for a big part of my life I did fear death. And there's parts of me... I'm thinking about it today, if I was to die, I wouldn't be scared of death, I'd be scared of my kids not having a dad. But, the thing, the belief that I have, and the new book goes deep into these kinds of things, that I'm real excited to share. But, my belief about death, we have to have beliefs, and values, and rules around all these kind of things. But my belief about death is, I strongly, strongly, strongly believe that none of us will live on this planet one second longer or shorter than God wants us to.

I believe that to my core soul. So, because I'm okay with that... Because, it's not like all of a sudden accidentally I'm going to catch something and I'm going to die, and then God's like, "Oh crap, I missed that one." That's not going to happen. There's plans, there's purpose, there's things that are happening, and I have that as a belief. Maybe it's not true, but it's my belief. Therefore, because I believe that, I'm not scared of death. If it happens, that sucks, and be horrible for my kids, but, again, it's part of the plan, therefore I'm not afraid of death, because of that.

Josh: Yeah. And I had never really even thought about death, until my brother obviously passed away.

Russell: You came face to face with it…

Josh: Yeah. Like, "Holy cow. Freak accident, helicopter crash, over in Kenya." It's like, "What the heck?" And, I flew around the world trying to figure out what I believe, and what I thought. And the conclusion, I don't know if it's a conclusion, but the belief that I have about death, is I'm like, "All right, when I die, that's when my life starts." I'm like, "Okay, cool." Like I'm, this is what I say? It's a whisper in the wind, like it's a flash in the pan.

Life is, we're here, and we're given these choices. And God's like, "All right, here, you got your 80 or 90 years on life. And you get a choice, you can either choose to accept me, or reject me." And then eternity starts, or doesn't start, it always is. For me, I'm like, "Sweet." And coupled with, or partnered with, what you said of like, "I don't think God makes mistakes." So if I die, even if it's a dumb, stupid decision that I made that led to that, it's not like God didn't factor in my stupidity. And so, because I know that, it's confidence. Yeah.

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]]> 1854 no "Outwitting The Devil" with Josh Forti - Part 1 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/outwitting-the-devil-with-josh-forti-part-1-of-3 Welcome to the first part of a special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh start talking about the book “Outwitting The Devil” by Napoleon Hill. They discuss some of the background of how this book was published, and then go into detail about the premise and the lessons that it teaches. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. So I told you guys a couple episodes ago, I told you about one of my new favorite books, which is Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill. I told you a little bit about the book and why you should read it. I told you I was doing a podcast interview with Josh Forti where he was going to ask me a bunch of questions about the book. We did that and it was really, really fun, and so I'm going to actually... I want to stream that interview to you guys over the next three episodes here on the podcast, and it's fun. The interview went way different than I thought it was going to go, and so I think you're going to enjoy it. The first part we talked about the book and the story behind it, and the breaking down the doodle and explanation, and the difference between faith and fear, some of the basic stuff. The second episode, we start talking about my biggest takeaways from the book and why personal development is important, and then Josh start asking questions about a time in my life when I used faith over fear and stuff like that. The story that came out, most people probably haven't heard this about ClickFunnels crashing and a bunch of other stuff, and so that episode two is going to be really fun for you guys. I'm excited, and episode number three is about my next book, so that was what the interview was about. It was really fun. It was a little over an hour long, and so we decided to break it up into three episodes for you guys, and so that's the game plan. So this is episode one of The Outwitting the Devil interview with Josh Forti, one of three. So when the theme song comes back, we'll cue that up. You'll have a chance to listen to the first one. Make sure you listen to all three episodes over the next week or so because I think you're going to enjoy it. The first one is really cool because you understanding why I'm so excited about this book, the biggest takeaways, but then some practical application, episode two and then episode three, we'll talk about the new book, why, what we're talking about, and a bunch of other cool stuff. So I'm excited. With that said, we’ll queue up the theme song. When we come back we'll jump into the first part of my interview with Josh Forti. Josh Forti: What's up, everybody! Russell: We're back. We're back. Josh: We are back. Russell: Four months, we're back. Josh: We're back. We're back guys. What is up? Welcome back to another episode of Think Different Theory, I'm going to claim this one, episode of Think Different Theory. Russell: And I'll probably also use it on the Marketing Secrets podcast; we'll use it for both. Josh: That's perfect, a dual episode. Guys. We are back. We were supposed to do this last week, but Russell's- Russell: Circumstances didn't allow it. Josh: Yeah. Russell was in a bad mood. So we have to do this, but guys, welcome back today. I'm really, really excited because we are discussing- Russell: One of my new favorite books. Josh: One of your new favorite books, Outwitting the Devil, which you recommended to everybody, the whole world, what? Like three months ago, four months ago. Something like that. Russell: Yeah. I'm shocked when people read it. If you haven't yet, go buy it on Amazon. There's two versions. I got to share this real quick. He'll share that while I'll tell you guys about this. Josh: Perfect. Russell: There's two versions of it. This one's got Sharon Lechter's notes, one doesn't. I'd get the one with Sharon Lechter's notes and oh, I talk to the camera here. Hey, what's up camera. And also you get the audio book. It's awesome. Because in an audio book, you can actually hear the two voices and one voice is the devil. One's Napoleon Hill. And it's amazing. Should I tell the story about the books? Josh: Okay. So actually I want to do that. I actually want to do this because how I want to open this up is, I want to take it back. Kind of take a step back because you've built Clickfunnels and now I feel like you've gone into kind of this new stage. You start reading a bunch of books and then you like geek out on Atlas Shrugged, and then you geek out on the next thing now we're at this book. So back us up, how did you find this book? Where did it come about? And then let's dive into it because I feel like context is important. Russell: Yeah. So, man, a lot of things. So obviously those who've read any of my books. I feel like I'm done. I wrote all the marketing books, I'm out of secrets. That's it. Trilogy is done. Work is finished. It's over. Josh: Guys, we're done with Russell forever. Russell: But then for me it's like, I don't know. I think in any area of life there's a point where you get mastery and it gets harder and harder to find new things. So there's all these incremental things, but there's not a whole bunch of new stuff I can discover, like oh my gosh, ah, freak out. Josh: Right, something about marketing you've never seen before. Russell: Yeah, so it's harder. And so for me, I'm a learner. I'm always pursuing education ideas and things. And so I started just kind of re geeking out on personal development stuff just because I miss it. I'm trying to think about things in my life. And so I was going through a bunch of different things and rereading a bunch of books I read back a decade ago, like Think and Grow Rich. Which by the way, that's kind of ... This Is the first edition printed Think and Grow Rich. Russell: Josh knows I'm kind of a geek with old books. You guys will see why more in about 18 months from now. We're doing some cool things, but this is first edition Think and Grow Rich. Think and Grow Rich was written by Napoleon Hill in 1937. It's the most, outside of the Bible, it's the highest personal development book ever sold. And it's really, really good. And so I was reading that again and then people kept tell me about this other book. And there's a lot of books. Right here, this is Think and Grow Rich, this is the Laws of Success. I'm trying to acquire a first edition Laws of Success, which is, I was telling you it's insane, expensive. Josh: It's crazy expensive. But Russell's over here, geeking out on all the books. Russell: I love old books. Josh: Actually a side note on that guys, the very first time ... So this is back at, I think it was the first or second offer. I can't remember mind lab mind, the big one. Offer mind you spoke at it and you were coming off stage. And I walked out and it was you and Dave and I like ran up to you as you were getting on the elevator. Do you remember this? Russell: Yes I do. Josh: And remember I was like Russell. And I didn't know you hardly at all this time. We kind of knew, basically, we had had some interactions. I was like, I'm trying to dream 100 you, what's a good gift? And you're like old books. Ding, the elevator door shuts. You're on the elevator, I'm off the elevator. And I was like, all right, that's all I have to go on. Russell: And you sent me some amazing old books. Josh: Yeah. Russell: So, very very cool. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Yeah. And so I just, again, I'm kind of going back through and I'm relearning from Tony again and from other people and stuff like that. But then this book keeps coming up and for some reason the title didn't grab me. I was like, Outwitting the Devil, it sounds stupid. I didn't want to read it. It never even crossed my mind as a book I was going to read. It's not something that I would really care about. And then one day I downloaded it on Audible. I download almost all the books I buy physical copies of- Josh: A hundred percent. Russell: I do it Audible too just in case. And I'm one of those kind of people that when I'm in a mood for something, that's why when I travel, it drives my wife crazy. I'll bring a backpack with like 40 books. I don't know what mood I'm going to be in. Russell: And she's like, why don't you bring a Kindle? I'm like, because like paper and I wanted to be able to hold it and see where the bookmarks at. Josh: Yeah, yeah. Russell: And the same thing is true with Audible. So I just download all the Audible just in case. And so one day I was working out, I was trying, anyway. This is a longer story, but I was trying to buy success.com at the time, it ended up falling through. I didn't get it. But Napoleon Hill was actually one of the original, he wrote for success in 1980. In fact, hold, this is kind of cool. This is Napoleon Hill's, he started a magazine. He actually talks about it in Outwitting The Devil. So he started a magazine called Hill's Golden Rule. This is one of the original, this one is from 1919. But anyway, he was also an author in the original Success Magazines back in 1800, I have a whole bunch of copies, actually 1800's and Napoleon Hill's articles in Success Magazine. Josh: Dang, that's so cool. Oh my gosh. Russell: So I had just gotten some of these things. And then one morning I was working out and I was looking at my playlist and Outwitting the Devil popped up. And for some reason I was like, all right. So I clicked it and it start talking about this magazine, talked about Hills Golden Rule, talked about Success Magazine, which I was trying to acquire the time and all these things. I was just like, oh my gosh. And so the very beginning he tells the story, he's kind of telling the story, I don't really know what I was going to go. He's telling this story about his life. And then all of a sudden transitions to this conversation is happening with the devil. Russell: And as you know, you've read it. Josh: It's so good. Russell: It's just like, I started getting like, oh my gosh. Why did nobody tell me about this before this is ... Let me put in perspective, I've read a lot of personal development books. I love Think and Grow Rich. This is so much better than Think and Grow Rich. Josh: It is, I agree with that. Russell: And, do you want me to tell the story behind or do you want to tell? What's the... Josh: Full behind... Russell: Just what the book is, where it came from. This is an amazing story. Josh: I just want to pass it over to you because I have questions about it. So I want to kind of hear things from your perspective here on this thing. I think a lot of people do as well. It's funny though, because when you put this on, gosh, I kind of picked up reading halfway through last year. I made a public declaration when I graduated from high school, I literally, I bought a pickup truck. Russell: I don't read anymore. Josh: And I put down the tailgate, I got up there, I stood up, I held my arms there and I literally yelled audibly out loud. I will never read another book ever again, outside of the Bible. Literally I was so done with reading my mom made us do all this reading in high school. Right. I was like, I'm so done. And thankfully that's not the case. Russell: Do you know what that reminds me of? I got done wrestling my senior year in college and after my last match. I've publicly said I will never run again. And then I gained 60 pounds, now I run. Josh: And now you run. Yeah. Russell: We had a similar experience. We were like- Josh: We'll never do that again. But six months into last year I started picking up reading more or whatever. And actually I've been averaging three books a month this year, which is freaking awesome. But, I'm halfway through. I can't remember what book it was. I see on your Instagram story. And you're like, everybody read this book. Russell: Every chapter, it was like, oh my gosh. Josh: Right. So I immediately go and buy it. And as soon as I finished the next book, I read the whole thing. And I think I read it in two sittings, right? Like the whole day I was like, oh my gosh, this is so good. So I do. I want you to kind of break it down for those people out there that don't know what it is. It is a story of Napoleon Hill interviewing the devil essentially. So I have a lot of questions just after you kind of explain the context of it all, but why don't you just kind of give people some context around what that is. Russell: By the way I spent last little while trying to take the entire book and put it into a framework like I do. So that's what this is back here, we'll talk about this. And some of the things… Josh: We have this here too. Russell: That hopefully serve as a framework for you guys. If you decided to read, here's some stuff to help. But, okay. Russell: So there's the story. So Think and Grow Rich was published in 1937, the next year. And if you've read Think and Grow Rich, there's times in here where he's like having conversations, people would pass away. People died, he's thinking about them and having these, in his head, these conversations that they come into the book. So it's pretty cool. So in 1937, 1938 he writes the manuscript for Outwitting the Devil. Josh: Yep. Russell: And so it's a year later. And the premise of this is literally, he talks about, I don't know if this is a little interview or if this was a physical, just something in my head, but this is the conversation I had with the devil. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And it's less of just an interview, but more like he's putting the devil on trial. He's on trial and he's like, you have to answer my questions. These are my questions. Josh: And the during this time, the devil, I can't remember how he explained it in the book, but the devil is forced to have to tell the truth 100% of the time. So any question that he asked him, he cannot lie. He has to be able to tell the truth. And that's one of the questions in there is he even says, it doesn't matter if you're religious or not. It doesn't matter whether you think it's a metaphor or whether you think he actually sat down and interviewed the devil. No matter what it was, the principles still reign true. Which is why I love the book. And you basically take that element out of it. Don't let that belief get in your way, still read the book. So, yeah. And 1938 is when he wrote the book, but didn't get published in 1938. Russell: Yeah. So imagine, this is one of the coolest stories ever. So 1938, he writes the book and in the book, he actually talks about the devil's like, if you ever publish this, it'll destroy your life, it will destroy your family it will destroy everything, because all the people fighting against this are going to destroy you. And so he finishes this book a year after Think and Grow Rich, has the manuscript. And he's so scared. He never actually publishes it. So he ends up dying. I think in '78, I believe. He passes away. His wife, second person gets the manuscript. She reads it. And she's like, I'm not publishing this. Josh: Yeah. Russell: She refuses to publish it. Later, she passes away. Napoleon Hill foundation gets the book. It gets to them, they read it and they're like, oh my gosh, this is probably the best thing he's ever written. Russell: And then they actually contacted, this is cool. I talked to Sharon Lechter last week. So I called Sharon Lechter. She's right here. Says- Josh: No way. That's awesome. Russell: Right here. Sharon Lechter. So she was probably the fourth person to ever read the manuscript. They sent it to her, what do you think we should do with this. So she says she got it. She sat down and she was reading it. And she's like, this is one of the greatest things ever published. If you don't know Sharon Lechter. She was the one who helped with all of the Rich Dad, Poor Dad books. She was the CEO of the company for a long time. She helped build the biggest financial education company on the planet. And now she's coming over here to this mission and she takes his book and she's the one who takes it, gets the manuscript ready for print. Inside of here's got her notes, which is kind of cool. Her notes taking it from, it was published back in, the last big crash what were the two- Josh: Eight, yeah. Russell: 2008. So she's sharing things in here and how they relate back then, which is kind of cool. But anyway, so she published it. Josh: And it's in the audio book as well, she kind of goes through and comments. Russell: She jumps in. Josh: There's a devil's voice. And then there's Napoleon Hill's voice. And then there's her kind of commenting, which is actually kind of cool through the thing. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Yeah. Russell: It is kind of cool to make it natural or make it kind of tied to the time. But I think even nowadays, a decade later, whatever, it's even more- Josh: Well. Russell: Applicable. Josh: And that's, what's crazy is you read the book and if you didn't know that it was written back in 1938, you'd be like, oh, he's totally talking about right now. Russell: Yeah. Josh: You have no clue he's talking about- Russell: Because some of the references he's talking about Hitler and Mussolini. All of these people and we're like, okay, well, the dictators nowadays are different, but that was who- Josh: Right. Russell: The things that were happening. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Right then in time. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. And just the craziness of fear and economic turmoil and depression. I'm like, huh. Sounds like where we're at now. So anyway. Russell: So that's, the cool story about it. It's just this book that this manuscript has been lost for generations from literally the best personal development author of our time. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And to bring it back. I was just visualizing myself as Sharon Lechter reading that original. Can you imagine just reading the manuscript and be- Josh: Being the first part of the third or fourth person to ever read it? Russell: So insanely cool. So anyway, that's kind of the backstory and then you get into it and it's fascinating. So that's the story behind the book. Josh: That's why you guys have to read it, how cool is that? Yeah, it's super, super cool. And kind of what I'd love to do, I want you to go through, because I think this is important. For the sake of time, I mean, we could probably talk for four or five or six hours on this book. But for the sake of time, the time constraints, I think this summarizes the book super well. Josh: And so I'd love to go through the book. I'd love to see your interpretation of the framework and kind of explain it. And then, it's funny because whenever I go through personal development books, you see everything through the world of funnels and marketing and things like that. I cannot read a personal development book without looking at whether or not the fundamental principles of it are true or what they align with. Right. So they align with Christianity or Atheism or whatnot. So I have questions about, because I'm a huge fan of the book. You're a huge fan of the book. Right. But there's some certain things in here that he talks about that I have questions that I'd love to know your opinion on. So I think if we go through and kind of talk through the overall context of the book here and then kind of pivot towards that towards the end, I think that would be awesome. Russell: Well, one thing to just kind of address that before we get too deep into it. Because I know a lot of people have this fear of reading, anything of what if I don't believe it. Well, I'm not this belief therefore, I can't. And I'm such a big believer in there's truth in most things, I think there's truth in all things. And I can read something and be like, oh my gosh, 97% of this, I believe spot on. 3% I don't really agree with, but I can still appreciate the 97% and love it and enjoy it and be grateful for it. In fact, I do the same thing in my personal relationships, I can talk to somebody I don't agree 100% with. And I still like them afterwards, which is something I think our world needs to learn how to do better. But. Josh: Yeah, even if you lose Bitcoin bets. Russell: Hey, now. Let’s talk about frameworks… That's 3% of him I can’t stand right now. Anyway, okay. So the way my mind works, when I read it ... So I read the book first time and I was just in this whirlwind of, oh my gosh, there's so many things. And I was re listening today as I was working out, trying to ... This is a framework, but there's so many levels and layers and things go deeper and deeper and deeper. So the first time I listened to it, I was just kind of overwhelmed because there's so much good stuff. Russell: And the second time I was going through it, I was like, okay, if I was trying to doodle this to explain to somebody what's the overarching- Josh: Yeah, what's the promise of the book? Russell: The framework. Josh: Yeah. Russell: That's just kind of the way if you've read any of my books, that's how my brain works. I read like 30 books and from there I'm like, okay, this is what I think they're saying. So this is kind of the premise. I'll walk up to the board and kind of show you guys this. But the basic concept is all of us, me, you, anybody. Right. We have a decision comes to us and we've got two choices every single time. And that's kind of where this whole thing starts from. So should I go over there? Josh: Yeah. Yeah. You take my mic too. Russell: Okay, I'm taking mic. So I know you guys can't see this perfectly and this is going to be the words they're all small, so I'll kind of talk through it and hopefully that'll work. So here's me or you. And this is us and we have decisions come to us. They come to us. Am I audio right here? Can you hear it? Cool. So we have decisions all the time. So the biggest thing is, if something comes to us, we can make decisions based on one or two things. Right. We're either making decision based on faith or based on fear. That's it, those are the two things. And obviously, especially in the last year, we've noticed, I think that this has been amplified. Where do most of us make our decisions? I think the way you'll find is that people traditionally make their decisions one way or the other. Russell: Either they make all their decisions towards fear, or all of them towards faith. And so that's something start thinking about personally yourself, as I start thinking about when I'm making decisions, am I doing them through fear or through faith? And I feel like people, not a hundred percent, I think you tend to favor one of these. And it's important because when you start understanding Satan, how the devil is using these as tools, it starts helping you think, I got to start making my decisions differently or else I'm doing what he wants. So I'm going to start on the fear side. So his initial goal is to get people to make decisions based on fear. If he can get that, you become what he calls the drifter. So drift or somebody who's drifting through life- Josh: I'm going to stop you really quick. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Really quick. I'm just going to take my mic back really quick. I think one of the things I want to just cover here really quick, is kind of the premise of how this, even before we dive into this, how this came about. Because in the book, basically Napoleon Hill asks the devil. He's like, Hey, listen, I want to understand what you, as the devil are doing to try to control people. Because in the book, one of the things that he claims, and I guess you have it up here, the 98%. Is that the devil controls 98% of people on the earth by getting them to do drifting, which we'll talk about here in a second. Right? And so the whole premise of this book is basically Napoleon Hill is interviewing the devil and getting the devil to explain how the laws of the universe work and basically how the devil is using those laws of the universe to pull people towards him. And then he also draws contrast of that, of how God uses them to draw people towards God. And so it's basically understanding the laws of success, the laws of the universe, how they work and it's, what is it? The secrets of freedom and success. So if you understand he's asking questions with the specific intention of trying to figure out how the world works, how the devil is using those, and then how we can use those things to ultimately have success if we can figure out how they work. Is that? Russell: Perfect. Josh: Good. Yeah. Russell: Cool. Thank you for adding that. That was awesome pre-frame and I think that ... Hope that works. When you understand that it's like, that is this that's the war we're in every single day, right? I mean, it's every movie. Right and wrong, good and evil. Right? That's the fight. Right? And so the devil here is showing, this is my playbook. This is how I get people to come to my side. And so his side, he calls them drifters. Drifters, people who are drifting through life. They're not ambitious, not doing anything. There's kind of there. And when you're a drifter, he controls you. And he said, 98% of the population he controls by getting them to drift. The first thing does that by initially, decision comes, you act in faith or act in fear. If you act in fear, you are moving down towards being a drifter, okay. Now he starts going through what are the most effective ... Ugh, so good. So many good things. But so he said, how does he get people to act towards fear? So he's like, these are my six tools. I have six tools. Off camera: Are we good on volume? Russell: Is the volume good? Do I need to yell louder? Okay. These are the six tools, the most effective tools I use. I have to get people to act towards. So the first one is poverty. If you can get them to fear poverty, oh, if I do the thing I might could be poor. Then I'm going to be fearful instead of having faith. And, I don't care if I'm poor, I'm going to go for it. Right. So he gets people to fear through poverty. Through criticism. How many of you guys have had a decision to make, and you have fear. Oh, what if people criticize me? That's one of his tools, right? Health. Ah, I don't know if I can do that. Because I'm not healthy enough. Loss of love, old age and death. So those are the six most effective fears that the devil uses that get you to take fear over faith. And he said of those six, the two most powerful are poverty and death. He can get you to be scared of, I'm going to lose all my money. I'm going to be broke. Or, oh, if I do that, I might die. Or, I might not... Those things. Those are the two most powerful tools. So that was really fascinating for me. I look to that because I have so many times in my life when I have decisions, I am scared of criticism or I'm scared of loss of love or whatever those things might be, right. Entrepreneurship. How many times you trying to gamble everything. If you're scared of poverty, right? Then it's like, ah. In fact, I have entrepreneurs all the time. This is a conversation I have way more often than you would think where they're coming to me. And they built the business to a certain point and they're stuck and they're so scared. And the thing that I always had to come back to them, what's the worst case scenario? Because there's a spot where they're so fearful. They can't act and they can't make decisions. They can't do anything. And they just are frozen and they start shrinking right there. You see them going from people who have the presence to be able to take action. Do things. These people are stuck and frozen. And I literally, my conversation I have over and over and over again, it's like, well, what's the worst case scenario. Because if you're not okay with the worst case scenario with poverty, with death, these things. If you're not okay with those, there's no way you're going to have faith to move forward. You have to break yourself of the worst case scenario. And so I see this in my own life. I see it in so many entrepreneurs, coach, I see this as the cycle for them getting to fear. So everyone take a personal reflection. Which one are the ones that you're most afraid of, is it poverty, criticism, ill health, loss of love, old age or death. Josh: And I'm actually just going to stand up here. Because I think it'll be easier. And one of the things that... So what he's trying to do is he's trying to use one of these six things to get you to become a drifter. Ooh, we just moved the screen. That's the key thing. And I'm looking at this camera here. Okay. That's the key thing that he's trying to get you to do is the devil wants you to become a drifter because if the opposite of being drifting is, and it's the characteristics of a non drifter over here, is you have definitive purpose. You have mastery over self, you have a learning from adversity, controlling environmental influence, time, positive thoughts over time. And then thinking through plans before you act on them. So if you have those things, that's the opposite of being a drifter. If he can get you to drift, then you don't have definitive purpose, then you're not actually going after anything. Then you're not going to be able to have control over it. And then he has control over you. And that's the comparison that he keeps drawing in the book, right? If he can get you to drift, then he has control over you. But if you're not a drifter, then guess what? Then he doesn't have power over you. And then you're ultimately going to have success and freedom in life. And so, these are the things that he lays out in the book and it's like, okay, look, if you choose to be a free thinker, if you choose to be someone who is like, this is what we're all about. Has control of your mind. You're going to come into this spiritual, mental, and physical freedom category versus the drifter category. Russell: Yeah. It's amazing. And yeah, I think what... In fact, I almost called this column here, definitive purpose. Because it's so in fact if you read Think and Grow Rich, he talks to the whole chapter about definitive purpose. People who say, this is the thing I want going to go through it. I'm at a definitive purpose. No matter what happens, no matter what obstacles, trials I'm going to go get the thing that's definitive purpose, right? Again, that's the big premise of Think and Grow Rich. And here he comes back to it. Again, I almost made the title of this, but it's not- Josh: I think it fits better. Russell: It does. But it's not an opposite, where this is freedom versus drifting is the opposites. And this is what it actually says in the book. Josh: If we just summarized it as one word drifters versus freedom. Russell: Yeah, yeah. Spiritual and physical freedom. Yeah, because freedom of mind, this whole thing is he trying to control the mind if you control your mind, you win. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And so, yeah. The definitive purpose, that's the number one characteristic of a non drifter is definitive purpose. Right? So, you're coming here. I'm an act. And you're like, oh, I got fear. I got fear. What if, what if, what if they criticize me? And you don't act. Where here you're like I've got definitive purpose. This is my mission. This is the goal. I don't care what happens. I'm going to go for it and you just go for it. And that's where you're acting in faith. I don't know the path. I don't know where I'm going, but I believe in my skillset, I believe in my mission. I believe in my calling. I'm going to go and you start moving and eventually you show up and you end up over here. Josh: Yeah. Russell: So anyway, and then these other ones are all amazing. We can go deeper, but. Josh: Yeah, we can go deeper. And I think we can hold this. This is the same thing. Right? Russell: Okay. Josh: So we can hold up there? Russell: All right. Josh: And that way we can get kind of back to poor Brandon's over there. Brandon's over there like, yeah. Russell: You're ruining my mic. Josh: Yeah. So one of the things I want to dive deep down in on this is specifically on here, you have this thing called hypnotic rhythm. And if I were to do this, as an overview, it's basically, there's a human and then there's the devil. And then there's God, this is basically how he describes it in the book. Right. There's the devil and there's God. And there's the human and the human is going through life and there's the devil pulling for him and there's God pulling for him. Right. And then that person has the choice. Russell: It's like two angels, devil on your shoulder Josh: Yeah, pretty much. Right. And then you have the choice to either choose faith or choose fear, which is why, one of the things that I've been so adamantly kind of fighting right now is, don't live in fear. Why is anybody fearful of anything? And I know that's easy for me to say, because I'm not afraid of death. Right. And that's literally one of the top things that he uses to control the mind. Right. And you look around the world today and everyone's so afraid of dying or it's like, who cares? Whatever. I know where I'm going when I die. But, that's one of the things that I've been fighting so strongly. So, I have a fear and I become a drifter or I have faith and I become someone with definitive purpose and I have freedom ultimately in my life. But there's this thing underneath that is kind of the core crux of what ultimately keeps us there. And it's, I actually have notes on it, but it's this thing called hypnotic rhythm. Russell: It was interesting because he talks about hypnotic rhythm after he talks about drifters. And he's like my goal is to get them into hypnotic rhythm. He says that if you go from routines to habits you have, it's going to be habitual. And they're habitual, they become hypnotic rhythm where you're stuck in this cycle. And he says is that how you control the drifters. That's how the universe controls everything. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Positive and negative. That's why, if you look at the bottom here, it's got the little whirlpool at the bottom for hypnotic rhythm. It's the same thing. So if you have good habits and you're doing things, do you get a spot where eventually it's a pattern that you're just stuck in. It's easier to stay in the 2%. If you're in the 98%, it's easier to stay there too. Hypnotic rhythm serves all things. Josh: And that's the thing I think is so interesting about it is the way that he explains it is hypnotic rhythm is the thing that keeps the world in harmony. Right? And one of the quotes out of the book that I wrote down is nature, which in this particular case he's talking about nature in the form of hypnotic rhythm. "Nature is not interested in morals, as such she is not interested in right or wrong. She is not interested in justice or injustice. She's interested only in forcing everything to express action according to its nature." Right? So when you go into hypnotic rhythm, either positively or negatively, you get into the rhythm of nature, right. And nature is interested. And if you look at it purely from an objective standpoint, he's saying that nature is only interested in making the thing, the object, in this case you do what has been designed to do. So if you're choosing to be in hypnotic rhythm in the spiritual freedom side of things, nature is going to keep you in that. And that's why, it's almost rewiring your whole brain and your whole life for success. It's why successful people continue to have success. And it's why non-successful people do not have success. And I think understanding that and understanding that hypnotic rhythm is, I almost like to think of it as the subconscious mind. Right? Once your subconscious mind goes into the hypnotic rhythm to just do the same thing over and over and over again, it's very, very difficult to escape that. Russell: Yeah. And you see it happen in your life all the time. There's times in my life, when I was wrestling where I had so many routines, so many things where that structure in my life was just, it happens on autopilot because that was what I did. Right. And so it was perfect. I didn't have to everyday figure out, how am I going to be successful? How am I going to have definitive purpose? It become part of me. Right. Josh: Yeah. Russell: It’s something in business, or other parts. I think that it's true. We get these patterns, these ruts, these things, wherever it is. Either positively or negatively, but that's the hypnotic rhythm where that's the goal is to get in those. But in the positive side, not negative side. Because you see it's a downward spiral. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Right. Upward spiral positively or downward spiral negatively. But if you get into hypnotic rhythm, that's the thing that keeps you in that spot. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Does that make sense? Josh: Yeah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 28 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0000 "Outwitting The Devil" with Josh Forti - Part 1 of 3 full 409 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to the first part of a special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh start talking about the book “Outwitting The Devil” by Napoleon Hill. They discuss some of the background of how this book was published, and then go... Welcome to the first part of a special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh start talking about the book “Outwitting The Devil” by Napoleon Hill. They discuss some of the background of how this book was published, and then go into detail about the premise and the lessons that it teaches. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. So I told you guys a couple episodes ago, I told you about one of my new favorite books, which is Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill. I told you a little bit about the book and why you should read it. I told you I was doing a podcast interview with Josh Forti where he was going to ask me a bunch of questions about the book. We did that and it was really, really fun, and so I'm going to actually... I want to stream that interview to you guys over the next three episodes here on the podcast, and it's fun. The interview went way different than I thought it was going to go, and so I think you're going to enjoy it. The first part we talked about the book and the story behind it, and the breaking down the doodle and explanation, and the difference between faith and fear, some of the basic stuff. The second episode, we start talking about my biggest takeaways from the book and why personal development is important, and then Josh start asking questions about a time in my life when I used faith over fear and stuff like that. The story that came out, most people probably haven't heard this about ClickFunnels crashing and a bunch of other stuff, and so that episode two is going to be really fun for you guys. I'm excited, and episode number three is about my next book, so that was what the interview was about. It was really fun. It was a little over an hour long, and so we decided to break it up into three episodes for you guys, and so that's the game plan. So this is episode one of The Outwitting the Devil interview with Josh Forti, one of three. So when the theme song comes back, we'll cue that up. You'll have a chance to listen to the first one. Make sure you listen to all three episodes over the next week or so because I think you're going to enjoy it. The first one is really cool because you understanding why I'm so excited about this book, the biggest takeaways, but then some practical application, episode two and then episode three, we'll talk about the new book, why, what we're talking about, and a bunch of other cool stuff. So I'm excited. With that said, we’ll queue up the theme song. When we come back we'll jump into the first part of my interview with Josh Forti. Josh Forti: What's up, everybody! Russell: We're back. We're back. Josh: We are back. Russell: Four months, we're back. Josh: We're back. We're back guys. What is up? Welcome back to another episode of Think Different Theory, I'm going to claim this one, episode of Think Different Theory. Russell: And I'll probably also use it on the Marketing Secrets podcast; we'll use it for both. Josh: That's perfect, a dual episode. Guys. We are back. We were supposed to do this last week, but Russell's- Russell: Circumstances didn't allow it. Josh: Yeah. Russell was in a bad mood. So we have to do this, but guys, welcome back today. I'm really, really excited because we are discussing- Russell: One of my new favorite books. Josh: One of your new favorite books, Outwitting the Devil, which you recommended to everybody, the whole world, what? Like three months ago, four months ago. Something like that. Russell: Yeah. I'm shocked when people read it. If you haven't yet, go buy it on Amazon. There's two versions. I got to share this real quick. He'll share that while I'll tell you guys about this. Josh: Perfect. Russell: There's two versions of it. This one's got Sharon Lechter's notes, one doesn't. I'd get the one with Sharon Lechter's notes and oh, I talk to the camera here. Hey, what's up camera. And also you get the audio book. It's awesome. Because in an audio book, you can actually hear the two voices and one voice is the devil. One's Napoleon Hill. And it's amazing. Should I tell the story about the books? Josh: Okay. So actually I want to do that. I actually want to do this because how I want to open this up is, I want to take it back. Kind of take a step back because you've built Clickfunnels and now I feel like you've gone into kind of this new stage. You start reading a bunch of books and then you like geek out on Atlas Shrugged, and then you geek out on the next thing now we're at this book. So back us up, how did you find this book? Where did it come about? And then let's dive into it because I feel like context is important. Russell: Yeah. So, man, a lot of things. So obviously those who've read any of my books. I feel like I'm done. I wrote all the marketing books, I'm out of secrets. That's it. Trilogy is done. Work is finished. It's over. Josh: Guys, we're done with Russell forever. Russell: But then for me it's like, I don't know. I think in any area of life there's a point where you get mastery and it gets harder and harder to find new things. So there's all these incremental things, but there's not a whole bunch of new stuff I can discover, like oh my gosh, ah, freak out. Josh: Right, something about marketing you've never seen before. Russell: Yeah, so it's harder. And so for me, I'm a learner. I'm always pursuing education ideas and things. And so I started just kind of re geeking out on personal development stuff just because I miss it. I'm trying to think about things in my life. And so I was going through a bunch of different things and rereading a bunch of books I read back a decade ago, like Think and Grow Rich. Which by the way, that's kind of ... This Is the first edition printed Think and Grow Rich. Russell: Josh knows I'm kind of a geek with old books. You guys will see why more in about 18 months from now. We're doing some cool things, but this is first edition Think and Grow Rich. Think and Grow Rich was written by Napoleon Hill in 1937. It's the most, outside of the Bible, it's the highest personal development book ever sold. And it's really, really good. And so I was reading that again and then people kept tell me about this other book. And there's a lot of books. Right here, this is Think and Grow Rich, this is the Laws of Success. I'm trying to acquire a first edition Laws of Success, which is, I was telling you it's insane, expensive. Josh: It's crazy expensive. But Russell's over here, geeking out on all the books. Russell: I love old books. Josh: Actually a side note on that guys, the very first time ... So this is back at, I think it was the first or second offer. I can't remember mind lab mind, the big one. Offer mind you spoke at it and you were coming off stage. And I walked out and it was you and Dave and I like ran up to you as you were getting on the elevator. Do you remember this? Russell: Yes I do. Josh: And remember I was like Russell. And I didn't know you hardly at all this time. We kind of knew, basically, we had had some interactions. I was like, I'm trying to dream 100 you, what's a good gift? And you're like old books. Ding, the elevator door shuts. You're on the elevator, I'm off the elevator. And I was like, all right, that's all I have to go on. Russell: And you sent me some amazing old books. Josh: Yeah. Russell: So, very very cool. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Yeah. And so I just, again, I'm kind of going back through and I'm relearning from Tony again and from other people and stuff like that. But then this book keeps coming up and for some reason the title didn't grab me. I was like, Outwitting the Devil, it sounds stupid. I didn't want to read it. It never even crossed my mind as a book I was going to read. It's not something that I would really care about. And then one day I downloaded it on Audible. I download almost all the books I buy physical copies of- Josh: A hundred percent. Russell: I do it Audible too just in case. And I'm one of those kind of people that when I'm in a mood for something, that's why when I travel, it drives my wife crazy. I'll bring a backpack with like 40 books. I don't know what mood I'm going to be in. Russell: And she's like, why don't you bring a Kindle? I'm like, because like paper and I wanted to be able to hold it and see where the bookmarks at. Josh: Yeah, yeah. Russell: And the same thing is true with Audible. So I just download all the Audible just in case. And so one day I was working out, I was trying, anyway. This is a longer story, but I was trying to buy success.com at the time, it ended up falling through. I didn't get it. But Napoleon Hill was actually one of the original, he wrote for success in 1980. In fact, hold, this is kind of cool. This is Napoleon Hill's, he started a magazine. He actually talks about it in Outwitting The Devil. So he started a magazine called Hill's Golden Rule. This is one of the original, this one is from 1919. But anyway, he was also an author in the original Success Magazines back in 1800, I have a whole bunch of copies, actually 1800's and Napoleon Hill's articles in Success Magazine. Josh: Dang, that's so cool. Oh my gosh. Russell: So I had just gotten some of these things. And then one morning I was working out and I was looking at my playlist and Outwitting the Devil popped up. And for some reason I was like, all right. So I clicked it and it start talking about this magazine, talked about Hills Golden Rule, talked about Success Magazine, which I was trying to acquire the time and all these things. I was just like, oh my gosh. And so the very beginning he tells the story, he's kind of telling the story, I don't really know what I was going to go. He's telling this story about his life. And then all of a sudden transitions to this conversation is happening with the devil. Russell: And as you know, you've read it. Josh: It's so good. Russell: It's just like, I started getting like, oh my gosh. Why did nobody tell me about this before this is ... Let me put in perspective, I've read a lot of personal development books. I love Think and Grow Rich. This is so much better than Think and Grow Rich. Josh: It is, I agree with that. Russell: And, do you want me to tell the story behind or do you want to tell? What's the... Josh: Full behind... Russell: Just what the book is, where it came from. This is an amazing story. Josh: I just want to pass it over to you because I have questions about it. So I want to kind of hear things from your perspective here on this thing. I think a lot of people do as well. It's funny though, because when you put this on, gosh, I kind of picked up reading halfway through last year. I made a public declaration when I graduated from high school, I literally, I bought a pickup truck. Russell: I don't read anymore. Josh: And I put down the tailgate, I got up there, I stood up, I held my arms there and I literally yelled audibly out loud. I will never read another book ever again, outside of the Bible. Literally I was so done with reading my mom made us do all this reading in high school. Right. I was like, I'm so done. And thankfully that's not the case. Russell: Do you know what that reminds me of? I got done wrestling my senior year in college and after my last match. I've publicly said I will never run again. And then I gained 60 pounds, now I run. Josh: And now you run. Yeah. Russell: We had a similar experience. We were like- Josh: We'll never do that again. But six months into last year I started picking up reading more or whatever. And actually I've been averaging three books a month this year, which is freaking awesome. But, I'm halfway through. I can't remember what book it was. I see on your Instagram story. And you're like, everybody read this book. Russell: Every chapter, it was like, oh my gosh. Josh: Right. So I immediately go and buy it. And as soon as I finished the next book, I read the whole thing. And I think I read it in two sittings, right? Like the whole day I was like, oh my gosh, this is so good. So I do. I want you to kind of break it down for those people out there that don't know what it is. It is a story of Napoleon Hill interviewing the devil essentially. So I have a lot of questions just after you kind of explain the context of it all, but why don't you just kind of give people some context around what that is. Russell: By the way I spent last little while trying to take the entire book and put it into a framework like I do. So that's what this is back here, we'll talk about this. And some of the things… Josh: We have this here too. Russell: That hopefully serve as a framework for you guys. If you decided to read, here's some stuff to help. But, okay. Russell: So there's the story. So Think and Grow Rich was published in 1937, the next year. And if you've read Think and Grow Rich, there's times in here where he's like having conversations, people would pass away. People died, he's thinking about them and having these, in his head, these conversations that they come into the book. So it's pretty cool. So in 1937, 1938 he writes the manuscript for Outwitting the Devil. Josh: Yep. Russell: And so it's a year later. And the premise of this is literally, he talks about, I don't know if this is a little interview or if this was a physical, just something in my head, but this is the conversation I had with the devil. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And it's less of just an interview, but more like he's putting the devil on trial. He's on trial and he's like, you have to answer my questions. These are my questions. Josh: And the during this time, the devil, I can't remember how he explained it in the book, but the devil is forced to have to tell the truth 100% of the time. So any question that he asked him, he cannot lie. He has to be able to tell the truth. And that's one of the questions in there is he even says, it doesn't matter if you're religious or not. It doesn't matter whether you think it's a metaphor or whether you think he actually sat down and interviewed the devil. No matter what it was, the principles still reign true. Which is why I love the book. And you basically take that element out of it. Don't let that belief get in your way, still read the book. So, yeah. And 1938 is when he wrote the book, but didn't get published in 1938. Russell: Yeah. So imagine, this is one of the coolest stories ever. So 1938, he writes the book and in the book, he actually talks about the devil's like, if you ever publish this, it'll destroy your life, it will destroy your family it will destroy everything, because all the people fighting against this are going to destroy you. And so he finishes this book a year after Think and Grow Rich, has the manuscript. And he's so scared. He never actually publishes it. So he ends up dying. I think in '78, I believe. He passes away. His wife, second person gets the manuscript. She reads it. And she's like, I'm not publishing this. Josh: Yeah. Russell: She refuses to publish it. Later, she passes away. Napoleon Hill foundation gets the book. It gets to them, they read it and they're like, oh my gosh, this is probably the best thing he's ever written. Russell: And then they actually contacted, this is cool. I talked to Sharon Lechter last week. So I called Sharon Lechter. She's right here. Says- Josh: No way. That's awesome. Russell: Right here. Sharon Lechter. So she was probably the fourth person to ever read the manuscript. They sent it to her, what do you think we should do with this. So she says she got it. She sat down and she was reading it. And she's like, this is one of the greatest things ever published. If you don't know Sharon Lechter. She was the one who helped with all of the Rich Dad, Poor Dad books. She was the CEO of the company for a long time. She helped build the biggest financial education company on the planet. And now she's coming over here to this mission and she takes his book and she's the one who takes it, gets the manuscript ready for print. Inside of here's got her notes, which is kind of cool. Her notes taking it from, it was published back in, the last big crash what were the two- Josh: Eight, yeah. Russell: 2008. So she's sharing things in here and how they relate back then, which is kind of cool. But anyway, so she published it. Josh: And it's in the audio book as well, she kind of goes through and comments. Russell: She jumps in. Josh: There's a devil's voice. And then there's Napoleon Hill's voice. And then there's her kind of commenting, which is actually kind of cool through the thing. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Yeah. Russell: It is kind of cool to make it natural or make it kind of tied to the time. But I think even nowadays, a decade later, whatever, it's even more- Josh: Well. Russell: Applicable. Josh: And that's, what's crazy is you read the book and if you didn't know that it was written back in 1938, you'd be like, oh, he's totally talking about right now. Russell: Yeah. Josh: You have no clue he's talking about- Russell: Because some of the references he's talking about Hitler and Mussolini. All of these people and we're like, okay, well, the dictators nowadays are different, but that was who- Josh: Right. Russell: The things that were happening. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Right then in time. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. And just the craziness of fear and economic turmoil and depression. I'm like, huh. Sounds like where we're at now. So anyway. Russell: So that's, the cool story about it. It's just this book that this manuscript has been lost for generations from literally the best personal development author of our time. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And to bring it back. I was just visualizing myself as Sharon Lechter reading that original. Can you imagine just reading the manuscript and be- Josh: Being the first part of the third or fourth person to ever read it? Russell: So insanely cool. So anyway, that's kind of the backstory and then you get into it and it's fascinating. So that's the story behind the book. Josh: That's why you guys have to read it, how cool is that? Yeah, it's super, super cool. And kind of what I'd love to do, I want you to go through, because I think this is important. For the sake of time, I mean, we could probably talk for four or five or six hours on this book. But for the sake of time, the time constraints, I think this summarizes the book super well. Josh: And so I'd love to go through the book. I'd love to see your interpretation of the framework and kind of explain it. And then, it's funny because whenever I go through personal development books, you see everything through the world of funnels and marketing and things like that. I cannot read a personal development book without looking at whether or not the fundamental principles of it are true or what they align with. Right. So they align with Christianity or Atheism or whatnot. So I have questions about, because I'm a huge fan of the book. You're a huge fan of the book. Right. But there's some certain things in here that he talks about that I have questions that I'd love to know your opinion on. So I think if we go through and kind of talk through the overall context of the book here and then kind of pivot towards that towards the end, I think that would be awesome. Russell: Well, one thing to just kind of address that before we get too deep into it. Because I know a lot of people have this fear of reading, anything of what if I don't believe it. Well, I'm not this belief therefore, I can't. And I'm such a big believer in there's truth in most things, I think there's truth in all things. And I can read something and be like, oh my gosh, 97% of this, I believe spot on. 3% I don't really agree with, but I can still appreciate the 97% and love it and enjoy it and be grateful for it. In fact, I do the same thing in my personal relationships, I can talk to somebody I don't agree 100% with. And I still like them afterwards, which is something I think our world needs to learn how to do better. But. Josh: Yeah, even if you lose Bitcoin bets. Russell: Hey, now. Let’s talk about frameworks… That's 3% of him I can’t stand right now. Anyway, okay. So the way my mind works, when I read it ... So I read the book first time and I was just in this whirlwind of, oh my gosh, there's so many things. And I was re listening today as I was working out, trying to ... This is a framework, but there's so many levels and layers and things go deeper and deeper and deeper. So the first time I listened to it, I was just kind of overwhelmed because there's so much good stuff. Russell: And the second time I was going through it, I was like, okay, if I was trying to doodle this to explain to somebody what's the overarching- Josh: Yeah, what's the promise of the book? Russell: The framework. Josh: Yeah. Russell: That's just kind of the way if you've read any of my books, that's how my brain works. I read like 30 books and from there I'm like, okay, this is what I think they're saying. So this is kind of the premise. I'll walk up to the board and kind of show you guys this. But the basic concept is all of us, me, you, anybody. Right. We have a decision comes to us and we've got two choices every single time. And that's kind of where this whole thing starts from. So should I go over there? Josh: Yeah. Yeah. You take my mic too. Russell: Okay, I'm taking mic. So I know you guys can't see this perfectly and this is going to be the words they're all small, so I'll kind of talk through it and hopefully that'll work. So here's me or you. And this is us and we have decisions come to us. They come to us. Am I audio right here? Can you hear it? Cool. So we have decisions all the time. So the biggest thing is, if something comes to us, we can make decisions based on one or two things. Right. We're either making decision based on faith or based on fear. That's it, those are the two things. And obviously, especially in the last year, we've noticed, I think that this has been amplified. Where do most of us make our decisions? I think the way you'll find is that people traditionally make their decisions one way or the other. Russell: Either they make all their decisions towards fear, or all of them towards faith. And so that's something start thinking about personally yourself, as I start thinking about when I'm making decisions, am I doing them through fear or through faith? And I feel like people, not a hundred percent, I think you tend to favor one of these. And it's important because when you start understanding Satan, how the devil is using these as tools, it starts helping you think, I got to start making my decisions differently or else I'm doing what he wants. So I'm going to start on the fear side. So his initial goal is to get people to make decisions based on fear. If he can get that, you become what he calls the drifter. So drift or somebody who's drifting through life- Josh: I'm going to stop you really quick. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Really quick. I'm just going to take my mic back really quick. I think one of the things I want to just cover here really quick, is kind of the premise of how this, even before we dive into this, how this came about. Because in the book, basically Napoleon Hill asks the devil. He's like, Hey, listen, I want to understand what you, as the devil are doing to try to control people. Because in the book, one of the things that he claims, and I guess you have it up here, the 98%. Is that the devil controls 98% of people on the earth by getting them to do drifting, which we'll talk about here in a second. Right? And so the whole premise of this book is basically Napoleon Hill is interviewing the devil and getting the devil to explain how the laws of the universe work and basically how the devil is using those laws of the universe to pull people towards him. And then he also draws contrast of that, of how God uses them to draw people towards God. And so it's basically understanding the laws of success, the laws of the universe, how they work and it's, what is it? The secrets of freedom and success. So if you understand he's asking questions with the specific intention of trying to figure out how the world works, how the devil is using those, and then how we can use those things to ultimately have success if we can figure out how they work. Is that? Russell: Perfect. Josh: Good. Yeah. Russell: Cool. Thank you for adding that. That was awesome pre-frame and I think that ... Hope that works. When you understand that it's like, that is this that's the war we're in every single day, right? I mean, it's every movie. Right and wrong, good and evil. Right? That's the fight. Right? And so the devil here is showing, this is my playbook. This is how I get people to come to my side. And so his side, he calls them drifters. Drifters, people who are drifting through life. They're not ambitious, not doing anything. There's kind of there. And when you're a drifter, he controls you. And he said, 98% of the population he controls by getting them to drift. The first thing does that by initially, decision comes, you act in faith or act in fear. If you act in fear, you are moving down towards being a drifter, okay. Now he starts going through what are the most effective ... Ugh, so good. So many good things. But so he said, how does he get people to act towards fear? So he's like, these are my six tools. I have six tools. Off camera: Are we good on volume? Russell: Is the volume good? Do I need to yell louder? Okay. These are the six tools, the most effective tools I use. I have to get people to act towards. So the first one is poverty. If you can get them to fear poverty, oh, if I do the thing I might could be poor. Then I'm going to be fearful instead of having faith. And, I don't care if I'm poor, I'm going to go for it. Right. So he gets people to fear through poverty. Through criticism. How many of you guys have had a decision to make, and you have fear. Oh, what if people criticize me? That's one of his tools, right? Health. Ah, I don't know if I can do that. Because I'm not healthy enough. Loss of love, old age and death. So those are the six most effective fears that the devil uses that get you to take fear over faith. And he said of those six, the two most powerful are poverty and death. He can get you to be scared of, I'm going to lose all my money. I'm going to be broke. Or, oh, if I do that, I might die. Or, I might not... Those things. Those are the two most powerful tools. So that was really fascinating for me. I look to that because I have so many times in my life when I have decisions, I am scared of criticism or I'm scared of loss of love or whatever those things might be, right. Entrepreneurship. How many times you trying to gamble everything. If you're scared of poverty, right? Then it's like, ah. In fact, I have entrepreneurs all the time. This is a conversation I have way more often than you would think where they're coming to me. And they built the business to a certain point and they're stuck and they're so scared. And the thing that I always had to come back to them, what's the worst case scenario? Because there's a spot where they're so fearful. They can't act and they can't make decisions. They can't do anything. And they just are frozen and they start shrinking right there. You see them going from people who have the presence to be able to take action. Do things. These people are stuck and frozen. And I literally, my conversation I have over and over and over again, it's like, well, what's the worst case scenario. Because if you're not okay with the worst case scenario with poverty, with death, these things. If you're not okay with those, there's no way you're going to have faith to move forward. You have to break yourself of the worst case scenario. And so I see this in my own life. I see it in so many entrepreneurs, coach, I see this as the cycle for them getting to fear. So everyone take a personal reflection. Which one are the ones that you're most afraid of, is it poverty, criticism, ill health, loss of love, old age or death. Josh: And I'm actually just going to stand up here. Because I think it'll be easier. And one of the things that... So what he's trying to do is he's trying to use one of these six things to get you to become a drifter. Ooh, we just moved the screen. That's the key thing. And I'm looking at this camera here. Okay. That's the key thing that he's trying to get you to do is the devil wants you to become a drifter because if the opposite of being drifting is, and it's the characteristics of a non drifter over here, is you have definitive purpose. You have mastery over self, you have a learning from adversity, controlling environmental influence, time, positive thoughts over time. And then thinking through plans before you act on them. So if you have those things, that's the opposite of being a drifter. If he can get you to drift, then you don't have definitive purpose, then you're not actually going after anything. Then you're not going to be able to have control over it. And then he has control over you. And that's the comparison that he keeps drawing in the book, right? If he can get you to drift, then he has control over you. But if you're not a drifter, then guess what? Then he doesn't have power over you. And then you're ultimately going to have success and freedom in life. And so, these are the things that he lays out in the book and it's like, okay, look, if you choose to be a free thinker, if you choose to be someone who is like, this is what we're all about. Has control of your mind. You're going to come into this spiritual, mental, and physical freedom category versus the drifter category. Russell: Yeah. It's amazing. And yeah, I think what... In fact, I almost called this column here, definitive purpose. Because it's so in fact if you read Think and Grow Rich, he talks to the whole chapter about definitive purpose. People who say, this is the thing I want going to go through it. I'm at a definitive purpose. No matter what happens, no matter what obstacles, trials I'm going to go get the thing that's definitive purpose, right? Again, that's the big premise of Think and Grow Rich. And here he comes back to it. Again, I almost made the title of this, but it's not- Josh: I think it fits better. Russell: It does. But it's not an opposite, where this is freedom versus drifting is the opposites. And this is what it actually says in the book. Josh: If we just summarized it as one word drifters versus freedom. Russell: Yeah, yeah. Spiritual and physical freedom. Yeah, because freedom of mind, this whole thing is he trying to control the mind if you control your mind, you win. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And so, yeah. The definitive purpose, that's the number one characteristic of a non drifter is definitive purpose. Right? So, you're coming here. I'm an act. And you're like, oh, I got fear. I got fear. What if, what if, what if they criticize me? And you don't act. Where here you're like I've got definitive purpose. This is my mission. This is the goal. I don't care what happens. I'm going to go for it and you just go for it. And that's where you're acting in faith. I don't know the path. I don't know where I'm going, but I believe in my skillset, I believe in my mission. I believe in my calling. I'm going to go and you start moving and eventually you show up and you end up over here. Josh: Yeah. Russell: So anyway, and then these other ones are all amazing. We can go deeper, but. Josh: Yeah, we can go deeper. And I think we can hold this. This is the same thing. Right? Russell: Okay. Josh: So we can hold up there? Russell: All right. Josh: And that way we can get kind of back to poor Brandon's over there. Brandon's over there like, yeah. Russell: You're ruining my mic. Josh: Yeah. So one of the things I want to dive deep down in on this is specifically on here, you have this thing called hypnotic rhythm. And if I were to do this, as an overview, it's basically, there's a human and then there's the devil. And then there's God, this is basically how he describes it in the book. Right. There's the devil and there's God. And there's the human and the human is going through life and there's the devil pulling for him and there's God pulling for him. Right. And then that person has the choice. Russell: It's like two angels, devil on your shoulder Josh: Yeah, pretty much. Right. And then you have the choice to either choose faith or choose fear, which is why, one of the things that I've been so adamantly kind of fighting right now is, don't live in fear. Why is anybody fearful of anything? And I know that's easy for me to say, because I'm not afraid of death. Right. And that's literally one of the top things that he uses to control the mind. Right. And you look around the world today and everyone's so afraid of dying or it's like, who cares? Whatever. I know where I'm going when I die. But, that's one of the things that I've been fighting so strongly. So, I have a fear and I become a drifter or I have faith and I become someone with definitive purpose and I have freedom ultimately in my life. But there's this thing underneath that is kind of the core crux of what ultimately keeps us there. And it's, I actually have notes on it, but it's this thing called hypnotic rhythm. Russell: It was interesting because he talks about hypnotic rhythm after he talks about drifters. And he's like my goal is to get them into hypnotic rhythm. He says that if you go from routines to habits you have, it's going to be habitual. And they're habitual, they become hypnotic rhythm where you're stuck in this cycle. And he says is that how you control the drifters. That's how the universe controls everything. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Positive and negative. That's why, if you look at the bottom here, it's got the little whirlpool at the bottom for hypnotic rhythm. It's the same thing. So if you have good habits and you're doing things, do you get a spot where eventually it's a pattern that you're just stuck in. It's easier to stay in the 2%. If you're in the 98%, it's easier to stay there too. Hypnotic rhythm serves all things. Josh: And that's the thing I think is so interesting about it is the way that he explains it is hypnotic rhythm is the thing that keeps the world in harmony. Right? And one of the quotes out of the book that I wrote down is nature, which in this particular case he's talking about nature in the form of hypnotic rhythm. "Nature is not interested in morals, as such she is not interested in right or wrong. She is not interested in justice or injustice. She's interested only in forcing everything to express action according to its nature." Right? So when you go into hypnotic rhythm, either positively or negatively, you get into the rhythm of nature, right. And nature is interested. And if you look at it purely from an objective standpoint, he's saying that nature is only interested in making the thing, the object, in this case you do what has been designed to do. So if you're choosing to be in hypnotic rhythm in the spiritual freedom side of things, nature is going to keep you in that. And that's why, it's almost rewiring your whole brain and your whole life for success. It's why successful people continue to have success. And it's why non-successful people do not have success. And I think understanding that and understanding that hypnotic rhythm is, I almost like to think of it as the subconscious mind. Right? Once your subconscious mind goes into the hypnotic rhythm to just do the same thing over and over and over again, it's very, very difficult to escape that. Russell: Yeah. And you see it happen in your life all the time. There's times in my life, when I was wrestling where I had so many routines, so many things where that structure in my life was just, it happens on autopilot because that was what I did. Right. And so it was perfect. I didn't have to everyday figure out, how am I going to be successful? How am I going to have definitive purpose? It become part of me. Right. Josh: Yeah. Russell: It’s something in business, or other parts. I think that it's true. We get these patterns, these ruts, these things, wherever it is. Either positively or negatively, but that's the hypnotic rhythm where that's the goal is to get in those. But in the positive side, not negative side. Because you see it's a downward spiral. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Right. Upward spiral positively or downward spiral negatively. But if you get into hypnotic rhythm, that's the thing that keeps you in that spot. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Does that make sense? Josh: Yeah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome to the first part of a special three episode series! On this episode, Russell and Josh start talking about the book “Outwitting The Devil” by Napoleon Hill. They discuss some of the background of how this book was published, and then go into detail about the premise and the lessons that it teaches.

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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. So I told you guys a couple episodes ago, I told you about one of my new favorite books, which is Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill. I told you a little bit about the book and why you should read it. I told you I was doing a podcast interview with Josh Forti where he was going to ask me a bunch of questions about the book. We did that and it was really, really fun, and so I'm going to actually... I want to stream that interview to you guys over the next three episodes here on the podcast, and it's fun. The interview went way different than I thought it was going to go, and so I think you're going to enjoy it. The first part we talked about the book and the story behind it, and the breaking down the doodle and explanation, and the difference between faith and fear, some of the basic stuff.

The second episode, we start talking about my biggest takeaways from the book and why personal development is important, and then Josh start asking questions about a time in my life when I used faith over fear and stuff like that. The story that came out, most people probably haven't heard this about ClickFunnels crashing and a bunch of other stuff, and so that episode two is going to be really fun for you guys. I'm excited, and episode number three is about my next book, so that was what the interview was about. It was really fun. It was a little over an hour long, and so we decided to break it up into three episodes for you guys, and so that's the game plan.

So this is episode one of The Outwitting the Devil interview with Josh Forti, one of three. So when the theme song comes back, we'll cue that up. You'll have a chance to listen to the first one. Make sure you listen to all three episodes over the next week or so because I think you're going to enjoy it. The first one is really cool because you understanding why I'm so excited about this book, the biggest takeaways, but then some practical application, episode two and then episode three, we'll talk about the new book, why, what we're talking about, and a bunch of other cool stuff. So I'm excited. With that said, we’ll queue up the theme song. When we come back we'll jump into the first part of my interview with Josh Forti.

Josh Forti: What's up, everybody!

Russell: We're back. We're back.

Josh: We are back.

Russell: Four months, we're back.

Josh: We're back. We're back guys. What is up? Welcome back to another episode of Think Different Theory, I'm going to claim this one, episode of Think Different Theory.

Russell: And I'll probably also use it on the Marketing Secrets podcast; we'll use it for both.

Josh: That's perfect, a dual episode. Guys. We are back. We were supposed to do this last week, but Russell's-

Russell: Circumstances didn't allow it.

Josh: Yeah. Russell was in a bad mood. So we have to do this, but guys, welcome back today. I'm really, really excited because we are discussing-

Russell: One of my new favorite books.

Josh: One of your new favorite books, Outwitting the Devil, which you recommended to everybody, the whole world, what? Like three months ago, four months ago. Something like that.

Russell: Yeah. I'm shocked when people read it. If you haven't yet, go buy it on Amazon. There's two versions. I got to share this real quick. He'll share that while I'll tell you guys about this.

Josh: Perfect.

Russell: There's two versions of it. This one's got Sharon Lechter's notes, one doesn't. I'd get the one with Sharon Lechter's notes and oh, I talk to the camera here. Hey, what's up camera. And also you get the audio book. It's awesome. Because in an audio book, you can actually hear the two voices and one voice is the devil. One's Napoleon Hill. And it's amazing. Should I tell the story about the books?

Josh: Okay. So actually I want to do that. I actually want to do this because how I want to open this up is, I want to take it back. Kind of take a step back because you've built Clickfunnels and now I feel like you've gone into kind of this new stage. You start reading a bunch of books and then you like geek out on Atlas Shrugged, and then you geek out on the next thing now we're at this book. So back us up, how did you find this book? Where did it come about? And then let's dive into it because I feel like context is important.

Russell: Yeah. So, man, a lot of things. So obviously those who've read any of my books. I feel like I'm done. I wrote all the marketing books, I'm out of secrets. That's it. Trilogy is done. Work is finished. It's over.

Josh: Guys, we're done with Russell forever.

Russell: But then for me it's like, I don't know. I think in any area of life there's a point where you get mastery and it gets harder and harder to find new things. So there's all these incremental things, but there's not a whole bunch of new stuff I can discover, like oh my gosh, ah, freak out.

Josh: Right, something about marketing you've never seen before.

Russell: Yeah, so it's harder. And so for me, I'm a learner. I'm always pursuing education ideas and things. And so I started just kind of re geeking out on personal development stuff just because I miss it. I'm trying to think about things in my life. And so I was going through a bunch of different things and rereading a bunch of books I read back a decade ago, like Think and Grow Rich. Which by the way, that's kind of ... This Is the first edition printed Think and Grow Rich.

Russell: Josh knows I'm kind of a geek with old books. You guys will see why more in about 18 months from now. We're doing some cool things, but this is first edition Think and Grow Rich. Think and Grow Rich was written by Napoleon Hill in 1937. It's the most, outside of the Bible, it's the highest personal development book ever sold. And it's really, really good. And so I was reading that again and then people kept tell me about this other book. And there's a lot of books. Right here, this is Think and Grow Rich, this is the Laws of Success. I'm trying to acquire a first edition Laws of Success, which is, I was telling you it's insane, expensive.

Josh: It's crazy expensive. But Russell's over here, geeking out on all the books.

Russell: I love old books.

Josh: Actually a side note on that guys, the very first time ... So this is back at, I think it was the first or second offer. I can't remember mind lab mind, the big one. Offer mind you spoke at it and you were coming off stage. And I walked out and it was you and Dave and I like ran up to you as you were getting on the elevator. Do you remember this?

Russell: Yes I do.

Josh: And remember I was like Russell. And I didn't know you hardly at all this time. We kind of knew, basically, we had had some interactions. I was like, I'm trying to dream 100 you, what's a good gift? And you're like old books. Ding, the elevator door shuts. You're on the elevator, I'm off the elevator. And I was like, all right, that's all I have to go on.

Russell: And you sent me some amazing old books.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: So, very very cool.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: Yeah. And so I just, again, I'm kind of going back through and I'm relearning from Tony again and from other people and stuff like that. But then this book keeps coming up and for some reason the title didn't grab me. I was like, Outwitting the Devil, it sounds stupid. I didn't want to read it. It never even crossed my mind as a book I was going to read. It's not something that I would really care about. And then one day I downloaded it on Audible. I download almost all the books I buy physical copies of-

Josh: A hundred percent.

Russell: I do it Audible too just in case. And I'm one of those kind of people that when I'm in a mood for something, that's why when I travel, it drives my wife crazy. I'll bring a backpack with like 40 books. I don't know what mood I'm going to be in.

Russell: And she's like, why don't you bring a Kindle? I'm like, because like paper and I wanted to be able to hold it and see where the bookmarks at.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Russell: And the same thing is true with Audible. So I just download all the Audible just in case. And so one day I was working out, I was trying, anyway. This is a longer story, but I was trying to buy success.com at the time, it ended up falling through. I didn't get it. But Napoleon Hill was actually one of the original, he wrote for success in 1980. In fact, hold, this is kind of cool. This is Napoleon Hill's, he started a magazine. He actually talks about it in Outwitting The Devil. So he started a magazine called Hill's Golden Rule. This is one of the original, this one is from 1919. But anyway, he was also an author in the original Success Magazines back in 1800, I have a whole bunch of copies, actually 1800's and Napoleon Hill's articles in Success Magazine.

Josh: Dang, that's so cool. Oh my gosh.

Russell: So I had just gotten some of these things. And then one morning I was working out and I was looking at my playlist and Outwitting the Devil popped up. And for some reason I was like, all right. So I clicked it and it start talking about this magazine, talked about Hills Golden Rule, talked about Success Magazine, which I was trying to acquire the time and all these things. I was just like, oh my gosh. And so the very beginning he tells the story, he's kind of telling the story, I don't really know what I was going to go. He's telling this story about his life. And then all of a sudden transitions to this conversation is happening with the devil.

Russell: And as you know, you've read it.

Josh: It's so good.

Russell: It's just like, I started getting like, oh my gosh. Why did nobody tell me about this before this is ... Let me put in perspective, I've read a lot of personal development books. I love Think and Grow Rich. This is so much better than Think and Grow Rich.

Josh: It is, I agree with that.

Russell: And, do you want me to tell the story behind or do you want to tell? What's the...

Josh: Full behind...

Russell: Just what the book is, where it came from. This is an amazing story.

Josh: I just want to pass it over to you because I have questions about it. So I want to kind of hear things from your perspective here on this thing. I think a lot of people do as well. It's funny though, because when you put this on, gosh, I kind of picked up reading halfway through last year. I made a public declaration when I graduated from high school, I literally, I bought a pickup truck.

Russell: I don't read anymore.

Josh: And I put down the tailgate, I got up there, I stood up, I held my arms there and I literally yelled audibly out loud. I will never read another book ever again, outside of the Bible. Literally I was so done with reading my mom made us do all this reading in high school. Right. I was like, I'm so done. And thankfully that's not the case.

Russell: Do you know what that reminds me of? I got done wrestling my senior year in college and after my last match. I've publicly said I will never run again. And then I gained 60 pounds, now I run.

Josh: And now you run. Yeah.

Russell: We had a similar experience. We were like-

Josh: We'll never do that again. But six months into last year I started picking up reading more or whatever. And actually I've been averaging three books a month this year, which is freaking awesome. But, I'm halfway through. I can't remember what book it was. I see on your Instagram story. And you're like, everybody read this book.

Russell: Every chapter, it was like, oh my gosh.

Josh: Right. So I immediately go and buy it. And as soon as I finished the next book, I read the whole thing. And I think I read it in two sittings, right? Like the whole day I was like, oh my gosh, this is so good. So I do. I want you to kind of break it down for those people out there that don't know what it is. It is a story of Napoleon Hill interviewing the devil essentially. So I have a lot of questions just after you kind of explain the context of it all, but why don't you just kind of give people some context around what that is.

Russell: By the way I spent last little while trying to take the entire book and put it into a framework like I do. So that's what this is back here, we'll talk about this. And some of the things…

Josh: We have this here too.

Russell: That hopefully serve as a framework for you guys. If you decided to read, here's some stuff to help. But, okay.

Russell: So there's the story. So Think and Grow Rich was published in 1937, the next year. And if you've read Think and Grow Rich, there's times in here where he's like having conversations, people would pass away. People died, he's thinking about them and having these, in his head, these conversations that they come into the book. So it's pretty cool. So in 1937, 1938 he writes the manuscript for Outwitting the Devil.

Josh: Yep.

Russell: And so it's a year later. And the premise of this is literally, he talks about, I don't know if this is a little interview or if this was a physical, just something in my head, but this is the conversation I had with the devil.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: And it's less of just an interview, but more like he's putting the devil on trial. He's on trial and he's like, you have to answer my questions. These are my questions.

Josh: And the during this time, the devil, I can't remember how he explained it in the book, but the devil is forced to have to tell the truth 100% of the time. So any question that he asked him, he cannot lie. He has to be able to tell the truth. And that's one of the questions in there is he even says, it doesn't matter if you're religious or not. It doesn't matter whether you think it's a metaphor or whether you think he actually sat down and interviewed the devil. No matter what it was, the principles still reign true. Which is why I love the book. And you basically take that element out of it. Don't let that belief get in your way, still read the book. So, yeah. And 1938 is when he wrote the book, but didn't get published in 1938.

Russell: Yeah. So imagine, this is one of the coolest stories ever. So 1938, he writes the book and in the book, he actually talks about the devil's like, if you ever publish this, it'll destroy your life, it will destroy your family it will destroy everything, because all the people fighting against this are going to destroy you. And so he finishes this book a year after Think and Grow Rich, has the manuscript. And he's so scared. He never actually publishes it. So he ends up dying. I think in '78, I believe. He passes away. His wife, second person gets the manuscript. She reads it. And she's like, I'm not publishing this.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: She refuses to publish it. Later, she passes away. Napoleon Hill foundation gets the book. It gets to them, they read it and they're like, oh my gosh, this is probably the best thing he's ever written.

Russell: And then they actually contacted, this is cool. I talked to Sharon Lechter last week. So I called Sharon Lechter. She's right here. Says-

Josh: No way. That's awesome.

Russell: Right here. Sharon Lechter. So she was probably the fourth person to ever read the manuscript. They sent it to her, what do you think we should do with this. So she says she got it. She sat down and she was reading it. And she's like, this is one of the greatest things ever published. If you don't know Sharon Lechter. She was the one who helped with all of the Rich Dad, Poor Dad books. She was the CEO of the company for a long time. She helped build the biggest financial education company on the planet. And now she's coming over here to this mission and she takes his book and she's the one who takes it, gets the manuscript ready for print. Inside of here's got her notes, which is kind of cool. Her notes taking it from, it was published back in, the last big crash what were the two-

Josh: Eight, yeah.

Russell: 2008. So she's sharing things in here and how they relate back then, which is kind of cool. But anyway, so she published it.

Josh: And it's in the audio book as well, she kind of goes through and comments.

Russell: She jumps in.

Josh: There's a devil's voice. And then there's Napoleon Hill's voice. And then there's her kind of commenting, which is actually kind of cool through the thing.

Russell: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: It is kind of cool to make it natural or make it kind of tied to the time. But I think even nowadays, a decade later, whatever, it's even more-

Josh: Well.

Russell: Applicable.

Josh: And that's, what's crazy is you read the book and if you didn't know that it was written back in 1938, you'd be like, oh, he's totally talking about right now.

Russell: Yeah.

Josh: You have no clue he's talking about-

Russell: Because some of the references he's talking about Hitler and Mussolini. All of these people and we're like, okay, well, the dictators nowadays are different, but that was who-

Josh: Right.

Russell: The things that were happening.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: Right then in time.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. And just the craziness of fear and economic turmoil and depression. I'm like, huh. Sounds like where we're at now. So anyway.

Russell: So that's, the cool story about it. It's just this book that this manuscript has been lost for generations from literally the best personal development author of our time.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: And to bring it back. I was just visualizing myself as Sharon Lechter reading that original. Can you imagine just reading the manuscript and be-

Josh: Being the first part of the third or fourth person to ever read it?

Russell: So insanely cool. So anyway, that's kind of the backstory and then you get into it and it's fascinating. So that's the story behind the book.

Josh: That's why you guys have to read it, how cool is that? Yeah, it's super, super cool. And kind of what I'd love to do, I want you to go through, because I think this is important. For the sake of time, I mean, we could probably talk for four or five or six hours on this book. But for the sake of time, the time constraints, I think this summarizes the book super well.

Josh: And so I'd love to go through the book. I'd love to see your interpretation of the framework and kind of explain it. And then, it's funny because whenever I go through personal development books, you see everything through the world of funnels and marketing and things like that. I cannot read a personal development book without looking at whether or not the fundamental principles of it are true or what they align with. Right. So they align with Christianity or Atheism or whatnot. So I have questions about, because I'm a huge fan of the book. You're a huge fan of the book. Right. But there's some certain things in here that he talks about that I have questions that I'd love to know your opinion on. So I think if we go through and kind of talk through the overall context of the book here and then kind of pivot towards that towards the end, I think that would be awesome.

Russell: Well, one thing to just kind of address that before we get too deep into it. Because I know a lot of people have this fear of reading, anything of what if I don't believe it. Well, I'm not this belief therefore, I can't. And I'm such a big believer in there's truth in most things, I think there's truth in all things. And I can read something and be like, oh my gosh, 97% of this, I believe spot on. 3% I don't really agree with, but I can still appreciate the 97% and love it and enjoy it and be grateful for it. In fact, I do the same thing in my personal relationships, I can talk to somebody I don't agree 100% with. And I still like them afterwards, which is something I think our world needs to learn how to do better. But.

Josh: Yeah, even if you lose Bitcoin bets.

Russell: Hey, now. Let’s talk about frameworks… That's 3% of him I can’t stand right now. Anyway, okay. So the way my mind works, when I read it ... So I read the book first time and I was just in this whirlwind of, oh my gosh, there's so many things. And I was re listening today as I was working out, trying to ... This is a framework, but there's so many levels and layers and things go deeper and deeper and deeper. So the first time I listened to it, I was just kind of overwhelmed because there's so much good stuff.

Russell: And the second time I was going through it, I was like, okay, if I was trying to doodle this to explain to somebody what's the overarching-

Josh: Yeah, what's the promise of the book?

Russell: The framework.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: That's just kind of the way if you've read any of my books, that's how my brain works. I read like 30 books and from there I'm like, okay, this is what I think they're saying. So this is kind of the premise. I'll walk up to the board and kind of show you guys this. But the basic concept is all of us, me, you, anybody. Right. We have a decision comes to us and we've got two choices every single time. And that's kind of where this whole thing starts from. So should I go over there?

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. You take my mic too.

Russell: Okay, I'm taking mic. So I know you guys can't see this perfectly and this is going to be the words they're all small, so I'll kind of talk through it and hopefully that'll work. So here's me or you. And this is us and we have decisions come to us. They come to us. Am I audio right here? Can you hear it? Cool. So we have decisions all the time. So the biggest thing is, if something comes to us, we can make decisions based on one or two things. Right. We're either making decision based on faith or based on fear. That's it, those are the two things. And obviously, especially in the last year, we've noticed, I think that this has been amplified. Where do most of us make our decisions? I think the way you'll find is that people traditionally make their decisions one way or the other.

Russell: Either they make all their decisions towards fear, or all of them towards faith. And so that's something start thinking about personally yourself, as I start thinking about when I'm making decisions, am I doing them through fear or through faith? And I feel like people, not a hundred percent, I think you tend to favor one of these. And it's important because when you start understanding Satan, how the devil is using these as tools, it starts helping you think, I got to start making my decisions differently or else I'm doing what he wants. So I'm going to start on the fear side. So his initial goal is to get people to make decisions based on fear. If he can get that, you become what he calls the drifter. So drift or somebody who's drifting through life-

Josh: I'm going to stop you really quick.

Russell: Yeah.

Josh: Really quick. I'm just going to take my mic back really quick. I think one of the things I want to just cover here really quick, is kind of the premise of how this, even before we dive into this, how this came about. Because in the book, basically Napoleon Hill asks the devil. He's like, Hey, listen, I want to understand what you, as the devil are doing to try to control people. Because in the book, one of the things that he claims, and I guess you have it up here, the 98%. Is that the devil controls 98% of people on the earth by getting them to do drifting, which we'll talk about here in a second. Right?

And so the whole premise of this book is basically Napoleon Hill is interviewing the devil and getting the devil to explain how the laws of the universe work and basically how the devil is using those laws of the universe to pull people towards him. And then he also draws contrast of that, of how God uses them to draw people towards God. And so it's basically understanding the laws of success, the laws of the universe, how they work and it's, what is it? The secrets of freedom and success. So if you understand he's asking questions with the specific intention of trying to figure out how the world works, how the devil is using those, and then how we can use those things to ultimately have success if we can figure out how they work. Is that?

Russell: Perfect.

Josh: Good. Yeah.

Russell: Cool. Thank you for adding that. That was awesome pre-frame and I think that ... Hope that works. When you understand that it's like, that is this that's the war we're in every single day, right? I mean, it's every movie. Right and wrong, good and evil. Right? That's the fight. Right? And so the devil here is showing, this is my playbook. This is how I get people to come to my side. And so his side, he calls them drifters. Drifters, people who are drifting through life. They're not ambitious, not doing anything. There's kind of there. And when you're a drifter, he controls you. And he said, 98% of the population he controls by getting them to drift. The first thing does that by initially, decision comes, you act in faith or act in fear. If you act in fear, you are moving down towards being a drifter, okay. Now he starts going through what are the most effective ... Ugh, so good. So many good things. But so he said, how does he get people to act towards fear? So he's like, these are my six tools. I have six tools.

Off camera: Are we good on volume?

Russell: Is the volume good? Do I need to yell louder? Okay. These are the six tools, the most effective tools I use. I have to get people to act towards. So the first one is poverty. If you can get them to fear poverty, oh, if I do the thing I might could be poor. Then I'm going to be fearful instead of having faith. And, I don't care if I'm poor, I'm going to go for it. Right. So he gets people to fear through poverty. Through criticism. How many of you guys have had a decision to make, and you have fear. Oh, what if people criticize me? That's one of his tools, right? Health. Ah, I don't know if I can do that.

Because I'm not healthy enough. Loss of love, old age and death. So those are the six most effective fears that the devil uses that get you to take fear over faith. And he said of those six, the two most powerful are poverty and death. He can get you to be scared of, I'm going to lose all my money. I'm going to be broke. Or, oh, if I do that, I might die. Or, I might not... Those things. Those are the two most powerful tools. So that was really fascinating for me. I look to that because I have so many times in my life when I have decisions, I am scared of criticism or I'm scared of loss of love or whatever those things might be, right. Entrepreneurship. How many times you trying to gamble everything. If you're scared of poverty, right?

Then it's like, ah. In fact, I have entrepreneurs all the time. This is a conversation I have way more often than you would think where they're coming to me. And they built the business to a certain point and they're stuck and they're so scared.

And the thing that I always had to come back to them, what's the worst case scenario? Because there's a spot where they're so fearful. They can't act and they can't make decisions. They can't do anything. And they just are frozen and they start shrinking right there. You see them going from people who have the presence to be able to take action. Do things. These people are stuck and frozen.

And I literally, my conversation I have over and over and over again, it's like, well, what's the worst case scenario. Because if you're not okay with the worst case scenario with poverty, with death, these things. If you're not okay with those, there's no way you're going to have faith to move forward. You have to break yourself of the worst case scenario. And so I see this in my own life. I see it in so many entrepreneurs, coach, I see this as the cycle for them getting to fear. So everyone take a personal reflection. Which one are the ones that you're most afraid of, is it poverty, criticism, ill health, loss of love, old age or death.

Josh: And I'm actually just going to stand up here. Because I think it'll be easier. And one of the things that... So what he's trying to do is he's trying to use one of these six things to get you to become a drifter. Ooh, we just moved the screen. That's the key thing. And I'm looking at this camera here. Okay. That's the key thing that he's trying to get you to do is the devil wants you to become a drifter because if the opposite of being drifting is, and it's the characteristics of a non drifter over here, is you have definitive purpose. You have mastery over self, you have a learning from adversity, controlling environmental influence, time, positive thoughts over time. And then thinking through plans before you act on them. So if you have those things, that's the opposite of being a drifter.

If he can get you to drift, then you don't have definitive purpose, then you're not actually going after anything. Then you're not going to be able to have control over it. And then he has control over you. And that's the comparison that he keeps drawing in the book, right? If he can get you to drift, then he has control over you. But if you're not a drifter, then guess what? Then he doesn't have power over you. And then you're ultimately going to have success and freedom in life. And so, these are the things that he lays out in the book and it's like, okay, look, if you choose to be a free thinker, if you choose to be someone who is like, this is what we're all about. Has control of your mind. You're going to come into this spiritual, mental, and physical freedom category versus the drifter category.

Russell: Yeah. It's amazing. And yeah, I think what... In fact, I almost called this column here, definitive purpose. Because it's so in fact if you read Think and Grow Rich, he talks to the whole chapter about definitive purpose. People who say, this is the thing I want going to go through it. I'm at a definitive purpose. No matter what happens, no matter what obstacles, trials I'm going to go get the thing that's definitive purpose, right? Again, that's the big premise of Think and Grow Rich. And here he comes back to it. Again, I almost made the title of this, but it's not-

Josh: I think it fits better.

Russell: It does. But it's not an opposite, where this is freedom versus drifting is the opposites. And this is what it actually says in the book.

Josh: If we just summarized it as one word drifters versus freedom.

Russell: Yeah, yeah. Spiritual and physical freedom. Yeah, because freedom of mind, this whole thing is he trying to control the mind if you control your mind, you win.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: And so, yeah. The definitive purpose, that's the number one characteristic of a non drifter is definitive purpose. Right? So, you're coming here. I'm an act. And you're like, oh, I got fear. I got fear. What if, what if, what if they criticize me? And you don't act. Where here you're like I've got definitive purpose. This is my mission. This is the goal. I don't care what happens. I'm going to go for it and you just go for it. And that's where you're acting in faith. I don't know the path. I don't know where I'm going, but I believe in my skillset, I believe in my mission. I believe in my calling. I'm going to go and you start moving and eventually you show up and you end up over here.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: So anyway, and then these other ones are all amazing. We can go deeper, but.

Josh: Yeah, we can go deeper. And I think we can hold this. This is the same thing. Right?

Russell: Okay.

Josh: So we can hold up there?

Russell: All right.

Josh: And that way we can get kind of back to poor Brandon's over there. Brandon's over there like, yeah.

Russell: You're ruining my mic.

Josh: Yeah. So one of the things I want to dive deep down in on this is specifically on here, you have this thing called hypnotic rhythm. And if I were to do this, as an overview, it's basically, there's a human and then there's the devil. And then there's God, this is basically how he describes it in the book. Right. There's the devil and there's God. And there's the human and the human is going through life and there's the devil pulling for him and there's God pulling for him. Right. And then that person has the choice.

Russell: It's like two angels, devil on your shoulder

Josh: Yeah, pretty much. Right. And then you have the choice to either choose faith or choose fear, which is why, one of the things that I've been so adamantly kind of fighting right now is, don't live in fear.

Why is anybody fearful of anything? And I know that's easy for me to say, because I'm not afraid of death. Right. And that's literally one of the top things that he uses to control the mind. Right. And you look around the world today and everyone's so afraid of dying or it's like, who cares? Whatever. I know where I'm going when I die. But, that's one of the things that I've been fighting so strongly. So, I have a fear and I become a drifter or I have faith and I become someone with definitive purpose and I have freedom ultimately in my life. But there's this thing underneath that is kind of the core crux of what ultimately keeps us there. And it's, I actually have notes on it, but it's this thing called hypnotic rhythm.

Russell: It was interesting because he talks about hypnotic rhythm after he talks about drifters. And he's like my goal is to get them into hypnotic rhythm. He says that if you go from routines to habits you have, it's going to be habitual. And they're habitual, they become hypnotic rhythm where you're stuck in this cycle. And he says is that how you control the drifters. That's how the universe controls everything.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: Positive and negative. That's why, if you look at the bottom here, it's got the little whirlpool at the bottom for hypnotic rhythm. It's the same thing. So if you have good habits and you're doing things, do you get a spot where eventually it's a pattern that you're just stuck in. It's easier to stay in the 2%. If you're in the 98%, it's easier to stay there too. Hypnotic rhythm serves all things.

Josh: And that's the thing I think is so interesting about it is the way that he explains it is hypnotic rhythm is the thing that keeps the world in harmony. Right? And one of the quotes out of the book that I wrote down is nature, which in this particular case he's talking about nature in the form of hypnotic rhythm. "Nature is not interested in morals, as such she is not interested in right or wrong. She is not interested in justice or injustice. She's interested only in forcing everything to express action according to its nature." Right? So when you go into hypnotic rhythm, either positively or negatively, you get into the rhythm of nature, right. And nature is interested. And if you look at it purely from an objective standpoint, he's saying that nature is only interested in making the thing, the object, in this case you do what has been designed to do.

So if you're choosing to be in hypnotic rhythm in the spiritual freedom side of things, nature is going to keep you in that. And that's why, it's almost rewiring your whole brain and your whole life for success. It's why successful people continue to have success. And it's why non-successful people do not have success. And I think understanding that and understanding that hypnotic rhythm is, I almost like to think of it as the subconscious mind. Right? Once your subconscious mind goes into the hypnotic rhythm to just do the same thing over and over and over again, it's very, very difficult to escape that.

Russell: Yeah. And you see it happen in your life all the time. There's times in my life, when I was wrestling where I had so many routines, so many things where that structure in my life was just, it happens on autopilot because that was what I did. Right. And so it was perfect. I didn't have to everyday figure out, how am I going to be successful? How am I going to have definitive purpose? It become part of me. Right.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: It’s something in business, or other parts. I think that it's true. We get these patterns, these ruts, these things, wherever it is. Either positively or negatively, but that's the hypnotic rhythm where that's the goal is to get in those. But in the positive side, not negative side. Because you see it's a downward spiral.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: Right. Upward spiral positively or downward spiral negatively. But if you get into hypnotic rhythm, that's the thing that keeps you in that spot.

Josh: Yeah.

Russell: Does that make sense?

Josh: Yeah.

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]]> 1749 no Need A Procrastination Hack? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/need-a-procrastination-hack Here’s a trick to help you get more stuff done. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I am streaming from you, from the top of Boise. Literally, I'm in the penthouse looking over Boise. And this is where I come when I am writing. And I don't know about you, but when I have big projects, sometimes my mind tries to do everything possible to make sure I don't do the thing. And so, I want to talk about that today, what I'm doing, some of my thoughts and some of my struggles. And hopefully it'll make you guys realize that you're probably just like me. All right. Hopefully this helps get you guys to get more stuff done. And with that said, we'll cue the theme song and then I'll be right back. All right. So, the last time I was doing this, I was in this penthouse. I was writing the Traffic Secrets book, which is crazy. And I would come up here for multiple days at a time. I'd lock myself in here and I would just write like crazy. And right now, I'm finding myself under similar deadlines. I thought with this book, I was going to have one more time. So, those who already know, I'm writing book number four. This is my first personal development book ever. I'm really excited for it. It's everything I've learned in the last 20 years put into doodles. So, if you like my doodles, hopefully it'll help make all these things make more sense to you. So, I'm excited for it. But I found, and I wonder if ... I think we're all this way. I definitely know I am. But when I have something I need to do, right? Even if it sounds cool at the time and I'm excited about it, my brain ... As I start doing the thing, my brain's Like, "Ah, this is painful. I wish we were watching TV. We should be eating candy. We should be doing something else." Right? And so, as I sit down to start typing, I get energy, excitement. I sit down and as soon as I start typing, my brain's freaking out, looking for anything possible. Like, "Ah, there's a TV. Ah, there’s outside. A bird just flew by. Oh, your phone's ringing. Oh, you should turn on some music. Oh, you should check your email. What happens if Facebook, somebody dings you? What if someone texts you?" All the things, every possible distraction my brain starts screaming at me, like bloody murder, trying to get me to not do the one thing that I got to actually do. So, my first question is, do you guys feel that way ever? Do you have something you're like, "This is so important, I must do it." But you have some kind of pain associated with it in your mind. So, as you start getting closer and closer to actually doing the thing that you need to do, man, it's like everything possible around you starts flying around, trying to stop you from doing the thing. If so, you are in good company because it happens to me too. And so, I'm going to share some things that have helped me. And again, I am so far from perfect. I'm in the middle of this right now. I literally recorded this podcast and my brain's like, "Oh, you should record a podcast. That'd be way less painful than actually writing." So, I'm literally being a bad example by doing this podcast, but hopefully it'll help get me back to work as well. So, a couple of things I found. When I have to get something done, if I'm in my ordinary situation, right? If I'm at my office or if I'm at my house, somewhere where I'm there a lot, I know what the distractions are, right? I know that my wife's outside or my kids are outside. I know where the TVs are. I know ... It's so familiar, I know quickly every single distraction. I’m at the office. If I’m at the office, there's a million people I can talk to. There's always something I can do to not do my job, right? There's something exciting I can share with Dave, or I can go talk to Brent, or I can tell Melanie something. There's always something that I can do to distract me from doing the thing that I got to actually do. And so, because of that I'm in this space and I'm used to those interruptions, or I'm used to things. And on top of that, people see me, like, "Oh, Russell's here. Let me ask him a quick question." Right? It pulls you and derails you off this thing. And so, a big part of it, for me, is I have to literally shift my environment. This is why I flew ... Not flew. I drove down to the penthouse, I'm here and I'm by myself. It's lonely. There's nobody else here. It's just me and my thoughts. And so, first off, it cuts off 10 levels of potential distractions. Okay? So, that's the first step. The second step is, for me, I have to find rewards of things I want. Like, "I want to listen to this thing. I want to watch this show, or I want to eat this thing or whatever." And I have to have those things and I cannot give those to myself, right? These have to be the carrot to get me to actually do something, right? So for me, for example, is 11:00 right now, I'm starving. I want to eat breakfast this morning and I said, "If I eat breakfast right now, then I'm going to feel really good. And I'm going to go ... I'll just ... " There's no carrot. So I was like, "Okay, I'm going to eat, but I can't eat until this chapter's done." And then my brain's like, "But the chapter, it could be really long," and all the things. I'm like, "I know, but if you're hungry, you got to figure this out." And so, I was like, "Ah." And so, finally, I sat down ... And at least for me with writing, it takes a minute for me to get into flow state, right? Sometimes it takes 20, 30, 40, an hour for me to be able to get to the spot where I'm writing, right? I'm thinking, I'm analyzing, I'm trying to think about stuff, I'm researching. I'm trying to find stuff. And then I start writing and then I can get into the zone. And then it's like, "Okay, now I'm in the zone." So, then I start writing as fast as I can, right? And I'll be like, "Okay. As soon as I get to the end of this, I get my reward. I get to go eat lunch or breakfast or whatever it is and I'm so excited." So, I'm writing, I'm writing. I'm going as fast as I can. And I'm in momentum now, right? So, that's the next thing, it's like tricking yourself with these carrots to get you into momentum, right? And then when you're in momentum ... I can't remember who it was, some writer that I was following said this, and it was really, really cool. He said that if you end your writing ... If you end at the end of a chapter, then it's this is ending point, right? And then the problem's like, "Oh, I'm done." Then you go and you do your thing and you reward yourself. Then you come back and you're like, "Ah, how do I get back into this?" Right? Into the next chapter, the next project, the next video, whatever it is. And so, it's starting all over again. So what they recommended was when you get to the end of something, you don't stop, you start the next chapter, right? You write the first three or four paragraphs where there's still momentum, where things are happening. And then when you stop, it's like, "Oh, I know where I left off. I can pick up a lot faster than going through that whole exercise of spending 45 minutes to an hour trying to figure out what you're going to talk about and get your mindset back right. And getting into the spot." Right? So, you're starting the next part of the process, the next part of the project and you get part of it done, so that brainstorming session you had was ... Happened while you're in momentum, it's going to be faster and then you can pick up faster when you come back from eating breakfast, or your activity, or whatever the thing is that you reward yourself with. So, that's kind of cool as well. So, those are some of the core things I'm working on right now. So, literally I just finished the chapter. I got the next intro written and now I'm like, "maybe I can come eat." And then I'm like, "I'm going to reward myself by doing a podcast real quick and eating." And all these little things real quick, knowing though that I got to be back up in 20 minutes and I got to pick up where I left off and I got to do another two hour sprint to get to the next chapter, because I have my next reward after that. And then I've got one more tonight and then I'm done and I'm going to head back home and go be with the kids, which is the ultimate reward. So anyway, there's some tricks. Again, it's not a flawless system. It's not perfect. I'm still struggling, but they're some of the things that are helping me. And so, I think for any of you guys who are like me, who have the ADD, like, "Squirrel, there's a squirrel over here. No, right here and over here." These are some tricks that will help you actually get your projects done. Change your environment, get away from your normal world, right? Some people will go to a Starbucks. They'll go to a library, or they go to the park bench. If that's what it takes, go there, right? Some people come in early in the day. They come out late at night, when everyone's asleep or whatever. Figure out what it is that you need to go to be able to do that is number one. Number two, get yourself into momentum, right? As quick as you can. When you're in momentum, you're going to get more stuff done. And when you're in momentum, keep working through it, right? Oh, and give yourself treats, or prizes, or something at the end of a momentum session to make sure that you actually get to it. And then again, don't end on the end of a chapter or the end of the project. Start the next ones, so that way you're able to keep moving forward. So, there you go. Hope that helps. With that said, I'm going to pound my breakfast real quick and get back to work on this book so someday, hopefully you guys have a chance to read it. So, that's my goal. That's my plan. I appreciate you all for listening and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 26 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Need A Procrastination Hack? full 408 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here’s a trick to help you get more stuff done. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today,... Here’s a trick to help you get more stuff done. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I am streaming from you, from the top of Boise. Literally, I'm in the penthouse looking over Boise. And this is where I come when I am writing. And I don't know about you, but when I have big projects, sometimes my mind tries to do everything possible to make sure I don't do the thing. And so, I want to talk about that today, what I'm doing, some of my thoughts and some of my struggles. And hopefully it'll make you guys realize that you're probably just like me. All right. Hopefully this helps get you guys to get more stuff done. And with that said, we'll cue the theme song and then I'll be right back. All right. So, the last time I was doing this, I was in this penthouse. I was writing the Traffic Secrets book, which is crazy. And I would come up here for multiple days at a time. I'd lock myself in here and I would just write like crazy. And right now, I'm finding myself under similar deadlines. I thought with this book, I was going to have one more time. So, those who already know, I'm writing book number four. This is my first personal development book ever. I'm really excited for it. It's everything I've learned in the last 20 years put into doodles. So, if you like my doodles, hopefully it'll help make all these things make more sense to you. So, I'm excited for it. But I found, and I wonder if ... I think we're all this way. I definitely know I am. But when I have something I need to do, right? Even if it sounds cool at the time and I'm excited about it, my brain ... As I start doing the thing, my brain's Like, "Ah, this is painful. I wish we were watching TV. We should be eating candy. We should be doing something else." Right? And so, as I sit down to start typing, I get energy, excitement. I sit down and as soon as I start typing, my brain's freaking out, looking for anything possible. Like, "Ah, there's a TV. Ah, there’s outside. A bird just flew by. Oh, your phone's ringing. Oh, you should turn on some music. Oh, you should check your email. What happens if Facebook, somebody dings you? What if someone texts you?" All the things, every possible distraction my brain starts screaming at me, like bloody murder, trying to get me to not do the one thing that I got to actually do. So, my first question is, do you guys feel that way ever? Do you have something you're like, "This is so important, I must do it." But you have some kind of pain associated with it in your mind. So, as you start getting closer and closer to actually doing the thing that you need to do, man, it's like everything possible around you starts flying around, trying to stop you from doing the thing. If so, you are in good company because it happens to me too. And so, I'm going to share some things that have helped me. And again, I am so far from perfect. I'm in the middle of this right now. I literally recorded this podcast and my brain's like, "Oh, you should record a podcast. That'd be way less painful than actually writing." So, I'm literally being a bad example by doing this podcast, but hopefully it'll help get me back to work as well. So, a couple of things I found. When I have to get something done, if I'm in my ordinary situation, right? If I'm at my office or if I'm at my house, somewhere where I'm there a lot, I know what the distractions are, right? I know that my wife's outside or my kids are outside. I know where the TVs are. I know ... It's so familiar, I know quickly every single distraction. I’m at the office. If I’m at the office, there's a million people I can talk to. There's always something I can do to not do my job, right? There's something exciting I can share with Dave, or I can go talk to Brent, or I can tell Melanie something. There's always something that I can do to distract me from doing the thing that I got to actually do. And so, because of that I'm in this space and I'm used to those interruptions, or I'm used to things. And on top of that, people see me, like, "Oh, Russell's here. Let me ask him a quick question." Right? It pulls you and derails you off this thing. And so, a big part of it, for me, is I have to literally shift my environment. This is why I flew ... Not flew. I drove down to the penthouse, I'm here and I'm by myself. It's lonely. There's nobody else here. It's just me and my thoughts. And so, first off, it cuts off 10 levels of potential distractions. Okay? So, that's the first step. The second step is, for me, I have to find rewards of things I want. Like, "I want to listen to this thing. I want to watch this show, or I want to eat this thing or whatever." And I have to have those things and I cannot give those to myself, right? These have to be the carrot to get me to actually do something, right? So for me, for example, is 11:00 right now, I'm starving. I want to eat breakfast this morning and I said, "If I eat breakfast right now, then I'm going to feel really good. And I'm going to go ... I'll just ... " There's no carrot. So I was like, "Okay, I'm going to eat, but I can't eat until this chapter's done." And then my brain's like, "But the chapter, it could be really long," and all the things. I'm like, "I know, but if you're hungry, you got to figure this out." And so, I was like, "Ah." And so, finally, I sat down ... And at least for me with writing, it takes a minute for me to get into flow state, right? Sometimes it takes 20, 30, 40, an hour for me to be able to get to the spot where I'm writing, right? I'm thinking, I'm analyzing, I'm trying to think about stuff, I'm researching. I'm trying to find stuff. And then I start writing and then I can get into the zone. And then it's like, "Okay, now I'm in the zone." So, then I start writing as fast as I can, right? And I'll be like, "Okay. As soon as I get to the end of this, I get my reward. I get to go eat lunch or breakfast or whatever it is and I'm so excited." So, I'm writing, I'm writing. I'm going as fast as I can. And I'm in momentum now, right? So, that's the next thing, it's like tricking yourself with these carrots to get you into momentum, right? And then when you're in momentum ... I can't remember who it was, some writer that I was following said this, and it was really, really cool. He said that if you end your writing ... If you end at the end of a chapter, then it's this is ending point, right? And then the problem's like, "Oh, I'm done." Then you go and you do your thing and you reward yourself. Then you come back and you're like, "Ah, how do I get back into this?" Right? Into the next chapter, the next project, the next video, whatever it is. And so, it's starting all over again. So what they recommended was when you get to the end of something, you don't stop, you start the next chapter, right? You write the first three or four paragraphs where there's still momentum, where things are happening. And then when you stop, it's like, "Oh, I know where I left off. I can pick up a lot faster than going through that whole exercise of spending 45 minutes to an hour trying to figure out what you're going to talk about and get your mindset back right. And getting into the spot." Right? So, you're starting the next part of the process, the next part of the project and you get part of it done, so that brainstorming session you had was ... Happened while you're in momentum, it's going to be faster and then you can pick up faster when you come back from eating breakfast, or your activity, or whatever the thing is that you reward yourself with. So, that's kind of cool as well. So, those are some of the core things I'm working on right now. So, literally I just finished the chapter. I got the next intro written and now I'm like, "maybe I can come eat." And then I'm like, "I'm going to reward myself by doing a podcast real quick and eating." And all these little things real quick, knowing though that I got to be back up in 20 minutes and I got to pick up where I left off and I got to do another two hour sprint to get to the next chapter, because I have my next reward after that. And then I've got one more tonight and then I'm done and I'm going to head back home and go be with the kids, which is the ultimate reward. So anyway, there's some tricks. Again, it's not a flawless system. It's not perfect. I'm still struggling, but they're some of the things that are helping me. And so, I think for any of you guys who are like me, who have the ADD, like, "Squirrel, there's a squirrel over here. No, right here and over here." These are some tricks that will help you actually get your projects done. Change your environment, get away from your normal world, right? Some people will go to a Starbucks. They'll go to a library, or they go to the park bench. If that's what it takes, go there, right? Some people come in early in the day. They come out late at night, when everyone's asleep or whatever. Figure out what it is that you need to go to be able to do that is number one. Number two, get yourself into momentum, right? As quick as you can. When you're in momentum, you're going to get more stuff done. And when you're in momentum, keep working through it, right? Oh, and give yourself treats, or prizes, or something at the end of a momentum session to make sure that you actually get to it. And then again, don't end on the end of a chapter or the end of the project. Start the next ones, so that way you're able to keep moving forward. So, there you go. Hope that helps. With that said, I'm going to pound my breakfast real quick and get back to work on this book so someday, hopefully you guys have a chance to read it. So, that's my goal. That's my plan. I appreciate you all for listening and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here’s a trick to help you get more stuff done.

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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I am streaming from you, from the top of Boise. Literally, I'm in the penthouse looking over Boise. And this is where I come when I am writing. And I don't know about you, but when I have big projects, sometimes my mind tries to do everything possible to make sure I don't do the thing. And so, I want to talk about that today, what I'm doing, some of my thoughts and some of my struggles. And hopefully it'll make you guys realize that you're probably just like me. All right. Hopefully this helps get you guys to get more stuff done. And with that said, we'll cue the theme song and then I'll be right back.

All right. So, the last time I was doing this, I was in this penthouse. I was writing the Traffic Secrets book, which is crazy. And I would come up here for multiple days at a time. I'd lock myself in here and I would just write like crazy. And right now, I'm finding myself under similar deadlines. I thought with this book, I was going to have one more time. So, those who already know, I'm writing book number four. This is my first personal development book ever. I'm really excited for it. It's everything I've learned in the last 20 years put into doodles. So, if you like my doodles, hopefully it'll help make all these things make more sense to you. So, I'm excited for it.

But I found, and I wonder if ... I think we're all this way. I definitely know I am. But when I have something I need to do, right? Even if it sounds cool at the time and I'm excited about it, my brain ... As I start doing the thing, my brain's Like, "Ah, this is painful. I wish we were watching TV. We should be eating candy. We should be doing something else." Right? And so, as I sit down to start typing, I get energy, excitement. I sit down and as soon as I start typing, my brain's freaking out, looking for anything possible.

Like, "Ah, there's a TV. Ah, there’s outside. A bird just flew by. Oh, your phone's ringing. Oh, you should turn on some music. Oh, you should check your email. What happens if Facebook, somebody dings you? What if someone texts you?" All the things, every possible distraction my brain starts screaming at me, like bloody murder, trying to get me to not do the one thing that I got to actually do. So, my first question is, do you guys feel that way ever? Do you have something you're like, "This is so important, I must do it." But you have some kind of pain associated with it in your mind. So, as you start getting closer and closer to actually doing the thing that you need to do, man, it's like everything possible around you starts flying around, trying to stop you from doing the thing.

If so, you are in good company because it happens to me too. And so, I'm going to share some things that have helped me. And again, I am so far from perfect. I'm in the middle of this right now. I literally recorded this podcast and my brain's like, "Oh, you should record a podcast. That'd be way less painful than actually writing." So, I'm literally being a bad example by doing this podcast, but hopefully it'll help get me back to work as well. So, a couple of things I found. When I have to get something done, if I'm in my ordinary situation, right? If I'm at my office or if I'm at my house, somewhere where I'm there a lot, I know what the distractions are, right?

I know that my wife's outside or my kids are outside. I know where the TVs are. I know ... It's so familiar, I know quickly every single distraction. I’m at the office. If I’m at the office, there's a million people I can talk to. There's always something I can do to not do my job, right? There's something exciting I can share with Dave, or I can go talk to Brent, or I can tell Melanie something. There's always something that I can do to distract me from doing the thing that I got to actually do. And so, because of that I'm in this space and I'm used to those interruptions, or I'm used to things.

And on top of that, people see me, like, "Oh, Russell's here. Let me ask him a quick question." Right? It pulls you and derails you off this thing. And so, a big part of it, for me, is I have to literally shift my environment. This is why I flew ... Not flew. I drove down to the penthouse, I'm here and I'm by myself. It's lonely. There's nobody else here. It's just me and my thoughts. And so, first off, it cuts off 10 levels of potential distractions. Okay? So, that's the first step.

The second step is, for me, I have to find rewards of things I want. Like, "I want to listen to this thing. I want to watch this show, or I want to eat this thing or whatever." And I have to have those things and I cannot give those to myself, right? These have to be the carrot to get me to actually do something, right? So for me, for example, is 11:00 right now, I'm starving. I want to eat breakfast this morning and I said, "If I eat breakfast right now, then I'm going to feel really good. And I'm going to go ... I'll just ... " There's no carrot. So I was like, "Okay, I'm going to eat, but I can't eat until this chapter's done." And then my brain's like, "But the chapter, it could be really long," and all the things.

I'm like, "I know, but if you're hungry, you got to figure this out." And so, I was like, "Ah." And so, finally, I sat down ... And at least for me with writing, it takes a minute for me to get into flow state, right? Sometimes it takes 20, 30, 40, an hour for me to be able to get to the spot where I'm writing, right? I'm thinking, I'm analyzing, I'm trying to think about stuff, I'm researching. I'm trying to find stuff. And then I start writing and then I can get into the zone. And then it's like, "Okay, now I'm in the zone." So, then I start writing as fast as I can, right?

And I'll be like, "Okay. As soon as I get to the end of this, I get my reward. I get to go eat lunch or breakfast or whatever it is and I'm so excited." So, I'm writing, I'm writing. I'm going as fast as I can. And I'm in momentum now, right? So, that's the next thing, it's like tricking yourself with these carrots to get you into momentum, right? And then when you're in momentum ... I can't remember who it was, some writer that I was following said this, and it was really, really cool. He said that if you end your writing ... If you end at the end of a chapter, then it's this is ending point, right?

And then the problem's like, "Oh, I'm done." Then you go and you do your thing and you reward yourself. Then you come back and you're like, "Ah, how do I get back into this?" Right? Into the next chapter, the next project, the next video, whatever it is. And so, it's starting all over again. So what they recommended was when you get to the end of something, you don't stop, you start the next chapter, right? You write the first three or four paragraphs where there's still momentum, where things are happening. And then when you stop, it's like, "Oh, I know where I left off. I can pick up a lot faster than going through that whole exercise of spending 45 minutes to an hour trying to figure out what you're going to talk about and get your mindset back right. And getting into the spot." Right?

So, you're starting the next part of the process, the next part of the project and you get part of it done, so that brainstorming session you had was ... Happened while you're in momentum, it's going to be faster and then you can pick up faster when you come back from eating breakfast, or your activity, or whatever the thing is that you reward yourself with. So, that's kind of cool as well. So, those are some of the core things I'm working on right now. So, literally I just finished the chapter. I got the next intro written and now I'm like, "maybe I can come eat." And then I'm like, "I'm going to reward myself by doing a podcast real quick and eating."

And all these little things real quick, knowing though that I got to be back up in 20 minutes and I got to pick up where I left off and I got to do another two hour sprint to get to the next chapter, because I have my next reward after that. And then I've got one more tonight and then I'm done and I'm going to head back home and go be with the kids, which is the ultimate reward. So anyway, there's some tricks. Again, it's not a flawless system. It's not perfect. I'm still struggling, but they're some of the things that are helping me.

And so, I think for any of you guys who are like me, who have the ADD, like, "Squirrel, there's a squirrel over here. No, right here and over here." These are some tricks that will help you actually get your projects done. Change your environment, get away from your normal world, right? Some people will go to a Starbucks. They'll go to a library, or they go to the park bench. If that's what it takes, go there, right? Some people come in early in the day. They come out late at night, when everyone's asleep or whatever. Figure out what it is that you need to go to be able to do that is number one.

Number two, get yourself into momentum, right? As quick as you can. When you're in momentum, you're going to get more stuff done. And when you're in momentum, keep working through it, right? Oh, and give yourself treats, or prizes, or something at the end of a momentum session to make sure that you actually get to it. And then again, don't end on the end of a chapter or the end of the project. Start the next ones, so that way you're able to keep moving forward. So, there you go. Hope that helps. With that said, I'm going to pound my breakfast real quick and get back to work on this book so someday, hopefully you guys have a chance to read it. So, that's my goal. That's my plan. I appreciate you all for listening and we'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 610 no Faith Vs Fear: Moving With Definitive Purpose https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/faith-vs-fear-moving-with-definitive-purpose One of my favorite principles from a book called “Outwitting The Devil” by Napoleon Hill Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 21 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Faith Vs Fear: Moving With Definitive Purpose full 407 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of my favorite principles from a book called “Outwitting The Devil” by Napoleon Hill Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome... One of my favorite principles from a book called “Outwitting The Devil” by Napoleon Hill Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of my favorite principles from a book called “Outwitting The Devil” by Napoleon Hill

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]]> 706 no Should Multiple Entrepreneurs Work Together? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/should-multiple-entrepreneurs-work-together I answer this great question from our community: Is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work together effectively, or is it better to hire a talented team of people to execute your vision instead? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, we are taking some questions from some of our listeners, which I'm excited for. So the question we're going to talk about today is, is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work effectively on a project or within a business, or is it better to have one entrepreneur or leader and build a team of talented people to execute on their vision? So, I got some examples with this and I'll share it when we get back from the theme song. All right, everybody. So the longer you do podcasts, the harder it is to come up with new ideas. So we started asking our audience and you guys, what kind of things would you like to hear about? What questions do you have? And we got a ton of them back. So I'll start sprinkling these in more often and the stories behind them, and hopefully it'll help you guys on your journey. I also feel like I'm getting close to really upgrading the Marketing Secrets experience. I have some ideas and things I want to do and create that I'm pumped for. And so, anyway, those things will be coming soon. So as a faithful listener, you will be on the front lines of some amazing, amazing, cool things. All right, so the question, let me restate it. And this is in context to, a lot of you guys saw the project we did at Mastermind.com. And so Mastermind.com, obviously it was me, Dean, and Tony, initially. And obviously, Tony used his face and his content and everything, but it was really me and Dean Graziosi who were running that business initially. And then if you notice now, the new launch is coming up, you'll probably notice that my face isn't on it. And a lot of people have been asking, "Wait. What happened? Did you get in a fight with those guys? Are you still working on it? Are you not part of it? What's the whole process? How's it all working?" And then the question that came tied to that is, is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work effectively on a project or within a business, or is it better to have one entrepreneur leader and build a team of talented people execute their vision? And there's a couple of follow-up questions on that as well, but I'll address that first. And it's funny, because I see that a lot of times when I was running my Inner Circle meetings, which I'm thinking about bringing back. Would you guys be interested if I brought back my inner circle? Anyway, I'll post that there and just leave it for a few minutes. But anyway, I noticed a lot of times these entrepreneurs would come to group, and everyone who is an entrepreneur, unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, they all have a million ideas and their ideas are all amazing. And so, they all come in there and everybody has got these ideas and everyone is doing things. And also, two people have an idea during a meeting and they're like, "We should start a business together" and they get together. And unfortunately, it rarely ever goes well. Sometimes it does. Every once in a while it does go really, really well. But so many times it starts where you have two idea people, they get in a room, they have an idea together, they birthed this thing, and they're like, "We should do it together." But then they start working on it, executing on it, depending on where their skillset lie, either it goes really, really well, or really, really bad, or somewhere in between there. And that honestly is what happened with Mastermind.com. If you look at Dean Graziosi and me, I love Dean, he's one of my favorite people I've met since I've been on this planet. I have so much love and respect for him and his family and what he does and his mission and his vision, and it's amazing. In fact, I think one of the reasons why I have so much respect for Dean is I think of all the people in this industry, I think me and him have the most similar skillsets, which is interesting. Dean writes books. I write books. Dean builds funnels. I build funnels. Dean creates content. I create content and courses. Dean runs a Mastermind group. I run a Mastermind group. Dean speaks at stages and closes deals on stages. I speak on stages. Dean ran a big call center. I ran a big call center. If you look at... I don't know, I know people who write books. I know people who build funnels. I know people who build courses. I know people who run companies. I know people who... all these different skillsets. But there's only one other person I know besides me who does it all. And so I think that's why Dean and I have such a good connection is, we both see each other, like "Man, nobody else out here is running the size business you are, and creating the ads, and writing the copy, and writing the book and all kind of things." And so, I have so much respect for him. And so that's why I think a lot of times we love working together. We have ideas and we bounce ideas off each other, and we brainstorm. And it's fun to have someone that I can pitch and catch with back and forth. And I just love it. And so that's why when the whole Mastermind thing came up, Dean had this idea for Mastermind.com. Well, he had a different name for it, and I was like, "You should buy Mastermind.com." And he didn't want to pay for it, so I bought it and gave to him as a gift. And then in exchange, he basically gave me some equity in the company. He said, "You come be part of this thing. It would be really, really cool." So over the last two years, I've been at different stages involved with Mastermind.com. With the first launch of the KBB course, I was a partner in that. And then, later we built software together at that's actually at Mastermind.com and did a whole launch together. And it's fun. And this is what I wanted to share with you guys. The difficulties is that Dean and I have literally the exact same skillset. But just because we have the same skillset, the direction or the vision of where we want things, isn't always a 100% in alignment. And it's tough because both of us have had tons of success, saying, "This is my vision, my plan, let's go." And it's tough when you have someone who you come in and you both have different visions a little bit, but same drive and same motivation and same skillsets. There were times where it was hard for both of us, where I was like, "I want to go this way." He's like, "Well, I want to go this way." I'm like, "Well, I think I'm right." He's like, "Well, I think I'm right." But I'm not used to somebody trumping me, and he's the same way. And it's like, "What do we do?" And it got to the point where, it was never negative, but it was just hard. Someone needed to carry on the vision. Someone needed to be able to run. Someone needed to be able to do it without the checks and balances of the other person. And so, eventually, because it's his baby and his thing, and we're working on something really big at ClickFunnels, I was like, "You know what? The initial launch was done. It was fun. We had a great experience. We made a lot of money. We helped a lot of people. It was great. Everything was great." But I was just like, "This is your vision. This is your baby." And so I passed it back. I said, "Look, I'm going to give it back to you." And in exchange, he sent us some really cool gifts. He sent Todd an amazing gift for Todd's wife, actually, him and his wife. And then he sent me a really cool gift as well. Which, if you ever see me on stage at Funnel Hacking wearing a blue amazing watch, that was the gift he sent me. And anyway, it ended in great. And we're still super close friends and still doing deals together and everything. But I think what we learned from that experience was just, "Look, if two people have the same skillset, it's hard to be business partners in a thing, because you both have the same skillset. Now, I want to contrast that with Todd. When I start working with Todd, Todd is amazing. Todd's an entrepreneur, Todd's got vision, Todd's got all sorts of things. But Todd's skillset, and if you don't know, Todd, Todd Dickerson is my co-founder at ClickFunnels. He's the one who runs the software side of things. We both are entrepreneurs in our own ways. But our skillsets, they aren't the same. They compliment, they're not the same thing. It's like in basketball, you don't need two Michael Jordan's on a basketball team. If you have two Michael Jordans on a basketball team, it's going to struggle. You need a Michael Jordan and a Scotty Pippen. And as someone who is not a big basketball guy, I think I nailed that analogy, I hope. But you know what I mean? So, you look at me and Todd, Todd and I are like a Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippen. In fact, I don't know if you guys have seen the Michael Jordan documentary, it's called The Last Dance. It's, I think nine or 10 episodes. It's insanely good. If you haven't watched it, you need to go watch it. But one of the first things that Jordan said, he said, "Without Scotty Pippen, there's no Michael Jordan." And I would say the same thing, without Todd Dickerson, there's no Russell Brunson. I couldn't do what I need to do without his skillset. And Todd would probably say the same thing. Todd can build amazing software, but it wouldn't have become ClickFunnels without me. Our skillsets compliment each other. And without Todd, I couldn't be me. Without me, he probably couldn't do what he's trying to do. And so it's a complimentary skill set. And so, because of that, we were able to come together and we were able to build this thing called ClickFunnels. And Todd and I have such love and respect for each other. It's nice because Todd can say, "Look, I default to you, Russell, on these things." And I default to Todd on these things. In fact, one of the fascinating things, we have a new personality assessment company coming out that we're launching here in the next couple of months, so I've been geeking out on that. But it's interesting, if you look at Todd and I's 16 personalities or Myers-Briggs test, we basically have the exact same personality, except for Todd is a thinker and I'm a feeler. So it's cool now that we've learned that as I'm interacting with Todd, I understand that we're the same in so many ways, but he's going to analyze things logically and I'm going to feel things out. And so I'll tell him in a message, I'll say, "Hey, Todd, this is the thing that I want to do. This is why I feel like that. But I'm curious, what do you think about that?" I literally will say it that way. And Todd will come back, "Well, I think this." And he'll come back and say, "How do you feel?" And so it's really cool now that we understand that. And so, a lot of times what will happen is that my emotions will feel something I want to be really, really strong, but because it's so strong, and I want to do it, my brain turns off logic and, screw logic, we're just going to do this, where then Todd comes in and says, "Well, that's awesome, but here's the logic." And he's able to explain the logic. And I'm like, "Oh, I didn't see it from that point." Or vice versa, sometimes he's like, "Logic. This doesn't make sense." I'm like, "No, Todd, I feel it. I don't know why, but I can feel this is going to be the thing." And he'll default to me a lot of times. But it's made for a really good working relationship. And so, in that situation, yes, we can have multiple entrepreneurs work effectively on a project in the business, but you have to have complimentary skillsets, not the same. I think the same makes it very, very difficult. And so, anyway, that's the thought process. And then one of the followup questions, someone said, he said, "This makes me think of Steven Larsen and how he worked with Russell, but since he was too entrepreneurial, he had to leave and pursue his own path." So those who don't know Steven Larsen, he worked as my chief funnel builder for two years sitting next to me. And Steve and I have very similar skillsets as well, not the same, but very similar. Funnel building and speaking, and things like that. And so, it was tough because inside of the ClickFunnels organization, it was hard for Steven to be like, "Hey, I want this role" because that was my role. And so he was able to do a lot of cool things and work with us and have success. But there's a point where he was just like, "Inside of this environment, there's already a Michael Jordan. I can't be the Michael Jordan." If there wasn't, he could have been in this environment and said, "I'm going to take that role" and stepped up and dominated it. But because there's already someone playing that role, it was hard for him. So he wanted that role. He desired that role. He had developed himself so he'd be worthy of that role. And so he had to go out on his own to go and create it. And he did. And he's been super successful ever since then. And so, anyway, that's what I wanted to share with you guys. I think knowing that it's looking at any kind of partnership and looking at, first off, are you going to get along with that person? Which you never know, short term it's easy to get along with people, long-term, you never know till you get in business with them. But making sure you have enough love and respect for somebody that if it works or doesn't work, you're able to work it out. Dean and I, I love him as much now as I did before, and we never got any big fights or arguments, but it was just like, we both knew, I think. It was just like, "Hey, you're Michael Jordan. We don't need two of us. We're going to lose the game if we do that. We need someone who is in charge." And I was able to hand the reins to him and he's running with it, and you'll see what they're doing during the next launch, and it's amazing. It's definitely probably different than I would have done it, but doesn't matter. There's no right or wrong, it's just whose vision are you executing on. And Dean's vision is amazing. And so, that's how it worked. With Todd and I, it's a little different. And he's able to execute on the vision on his side, I can execute on the vision on my side, and we have love and respect for each other that we can make it so it all works. And so, think about that as you're going into business with people, if you are doing partnerships. Unfortunately, that was one of the negative things I saw in the Inner Circle. One of the reasons why I eventually paused it was just there started being drama. People starting businesses together and not working out. And then there being hard feelings. Those are the things that always want to be cautious of. So I'm always very nervous getting into any kind of partnership or relationship. It's good to work with each other I think as either employee, employer for a while, or as project based stuff until you've had a chance to see how they're reacting to the situations and how you get along with them and stuff like that. Because, a lot of times, if you get into business together and it doesn't work out, it can end a friendship, which is the worst thing. And for me, this business is just a game we're playing to keep ourselves occupied, and it doesn't actually really matter that much. So, it's just part of it. It's a big game we're playing to hopefully learn some skillsets, meet new people along the way. So, there you go. There's my answer for, is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work effectively together on a project or within a business, or is it better to have one entrepreneur leader and build a team of talented people to execute their vision? So, hope that helps. That said, thank you guys all for listening to this podcast. If you enjoyed it, please go to iTunes and rate and review it. I've been doing this for six, seven, eight years now. And if you haven't had a chance to review it, please, I'm trying to bring you things that I feel like will help you invest in your business. Hopefully they are. Go rate and review. Leave some stars, even if you don't love it. Let us know. We read those, and it would let me know how I can better serve you guys in the future. So, that said, thanks again, and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 19 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Should Multiple Entrepreneurs Work Together? full 406 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I answer this great question from our community: Is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work together effectively, or is it better to hire a talented team of people to execute your vision instead? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me!... I answer this great question from our community: Is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work together effectively, or is it better to hire a talented team of people to execute your vision instead? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, we are taking some questions from some of our listeners, which I'm excited for. So the question we're going to talk about today is, is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work effectively on a project or within a business, or is it better to have one entrepreneur or leader and build a team of talented people to execute on their vision? So, I got some examples with this and I'll share it when we get back from the theme song. All right, everybody. So the longer you do podcasts, the harder it is to come up with new ideas. So we started asking our audience and you guys, what kind of things would you like to hear about? What questions do you have? And we got a ton of them back. So I'll start sprinkling these in more often and the stories behind them, and hopefully it'll help you guys on your journey. I also feel like I'm getting close to really upgrading the Marketing Secrets experience. I have some ideas and things I want to do and create that I'm pumped for. And so, anyway, those things will be coming soon. So as a faithful listener, you will be on the front lines of some amazing, amazing, cool things. All right, so the question, let me restate it. And this is in context to, a lot of you guys saw the project we did at Mastermind.com. And so Mastermind.com, obviously it was me, Dean, and Tony, initially. And obviously, Tony used his face and his content and everything, but it was really me and Dean Graziosi who were running that business initially. And then if you notice now, the new launch is coming up, you'll probably notice that my face isn't on it. And a lot of people have been asking, "Wait. What happened? Did you get in a fight with those guys? Are you still working on it? Are you not part of it? What's the whole process? How's it all working?" And then the question that came tied to that is, is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work effectively on a project or within a business, or is it better to have one entrepreneur leader and build a team of talented people execute their vision? And there's a couple of follow-up questions on that as well, but I'll address that first. And it's funny, because I see that a lot of times when I was running my Inner Circle meetings, which I'm thinking about bringing back. Would you guys be interested if I brought back my inner circle? Anyway, I'll post that there and just leave it for a few minutes. But anyway, I noticed a lot of times these entrepreneurs would come to group, and everyone who is an entrepreneur, unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, they all have a million ideas and their ideas are all amazing. And so, they all come in there and everybody has got these ideas and everyone is doing things. And also, two people have an idea during a meeting and they're like, "We should start a business together" and they get together. And unfortunately, it rarely ever goes well. Sometimes it does. Every once in a while it does go really, really well. But so many times it starts where you have two idea people, they get in a room, they have an idea together, they birthed this thing, and they're like, "We should do it together." But then they start working on it, executing on it, depending on where their skillset lie, either it goes really, really well, or really, really bad, or somewhere in between there. And that honestly is what happened with Mastermind.com. If you look at Dean Graziosi and me, I love Dean, he's one of my favorite people I've met since I've been on this planet. I have so much love and respect for him and his family and what he does and his mission and his vision, and it's amazing. In fact, I think one of the reasons why I have so much respect for Dean is I think of all the people in this industry, I think me and him have the most similar skillsets, which is interesting. Dean writes books. I write books. Dean builds funnels. I build funnels. Dean creates content. I create content and courses. Dean runs a Mastermind group. I run a Mastermind group. Dean speaks at stages and closes deals on stages. I speak on stages. Dean ran a big call center. I ran a big call center. If you look at... I don't know, I know people who write books. I know people who build funnels. I know people who build courses. I know people who run companies. I know people who... all these different skillsets. But there's only one other person I know besides me who does it all. And so I think that's why Dean and I have such a good connection is, we both see each other, like "Man, nobody else out here is running the size business you are, and creating the ads, and writing the copy, and writing the book and all kind of things." And so, I have so much respect for him. And so that's why I think a lot of times we love working together. We have ideas and we bounce ideas off each other, and we brainstorm. And it's fun to have someone that I can pitch and catch with back and forth. And I just love it. And so that's why when the whole Mastermind thing came up, Dean had this idea for Mastermind.com. Well, he had a different name for it, and I was like, "You should buy Mastermind.com." And he didn't want to pay for it, so I bought it and gave to him as a gift. And then in exchange, he basically gave me some equity in the company. He said, "You come be part of this thing. It would be really, really cool." So over the last two years, I've been at different stages involved with Mastermind.com. With the first launch of the KBB course, I was a partner in that. And then, later we built software together at that's actually at Mastermind.com and did a whole launch together. And it's fun. And this is what I wanted to share with you guys. The difficulties is that Dean and I have literally the exact same skillset. But just because we have the same skillset, the direction or the vision of where we want things, isn't always a 100% in alignment. And it's tough because both of us have had tons of success, saying, "This is my vision, my plan, let's go." And it's tough when you have someone who you come in and you both have different visions a little bit, but same drive and same motivation and same skillsets. There were times where it was hard for both of us, where I was like, "I want to go this way." He's like, "Well, I want to go this way." I'm like, "Well, I think I'm right." He's like, "Well, I think I'm right." But I'm not used to somebody trumping me, and he's the same way. And it's like, "What do we do?" And it got to the point where, it was never negative, but it was just hard. Someone needed to carry on the vision. Someone needed to be able to run. Someone needed to be able to do it without the checks and balances of the other person. And so, eventually, because it's his baby and his thing, and we're working on something really big at ClickFunnels, I was like, "You know what? The initial launch was done. It was fun. We had a great experience. We made a lot of money. We helped a lot of people. It was great. Everything was great." But I was just like, "This is your vision. This is your baby." And so I passed it back. I said, "Look, I'm going to give it back to you." And in exchange, he sent us some really cool gifts. He sent Todd an amazing gift for Todd's wife, actually, him and his wife. And then he sent me a really cool gift as well. Which, if you ever see me on stage at Funnel Hacking wearing a blue amazing watch, that was the gift he sent me. And anyway, it ended in great. And we're still super close friends and still doing deals together and everything. But I think what we learned from that experience was just, "Look, if two people have the same skillset, it's hard to be business partners in a thing, because you both have the same skillset. Now, I want to contrast that with Todd. When I start working with Todd, Todd is amazing. Todd's an entrepreneur, Todd's got vision, Todd's got all sorts of things. But Todd's skillset, and if you don't know, Todd, Todd Dickerson is my co-founder at ClickFunnels. He's the one who runs the software side of things. We both are entrepreneurs in our own ways. But our skillsets, they aren't the same. They compliment, they're not the same thing. It's like in basketball, you don't need two Michael Jordan's on a basketball team. If you have two Michael Jordans on a basketball team, it's going to struggle. You need a Michael Jordan and a Scotty Pippen. And as someone who is not a big basketball guy, I think I nailed that analogy, I hope. But you know what I mean? So, you look at me and Todd, Todd and I are like a Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippen. In fact, I don't know if you guys have seen the Michael Jordan documentary, it's called The Last Dance. It's, I think nine or 10 episodes. It's insanely good. If you haven't watched it, you need to go watch it. But one of the first things that Jordan said, he said, "Without Scotty Pippen, there's no Michael Jordan." And I would say the same thing, without Todd Dickerson, there's no Russell Brunson. I couldn't do what I need to do without his skillset. And Todd would probably say the same thing. Todd can build amazing software, but it wouldn't have become ClickFunnels without me. Our skillsets compliment each other. And without Todd, I couldn't be me. Without me, he probably couldn't do what he's trying to do. And so it's a complimentary skill set. And so, because of that, we were able to come together and we were able to build this thing called ClickFunnels. And Todd and I have such love and respect for each other. It's nice because Todd can say, "Look, I default to you, Russell, on these things." And I default to Todd on these things. In fact, one of the fascinating things, we have a new personality assessment company coming out that we're launching here in the next couple of months, so I've been geeking out on that. But it's interesting, if you look at Todd and I's 16 personalities or Myers-Briggs test, we basically have the exact same personality, except for Todd is a thinker and I'm a feeler. So it's cool now that we've learned that as I'm interacting with Todd, I understand that we're the same in so many ways, but he's going to analyze things logically and I'm going to feel things out. And so I'll tell him in a message, I'll say, "Hey, Todd, this is the thing that I want to do. This is why I feel like that. But I'm curious, what do you think about that?" I literally will say it that way. And Todd will come back, "Well, I think this." And he'll come back and say, "How do you feel?" And so it's really cool now that we understand that. And so, a lot of times what will happen is that my emotions will feel something I want to be really, really strong, but because it's so strong, and I want to do it, my brain turns off logic and, screw logic, we're just going to do this, where then Todd comes in and says, "Well, that's awesome, but here's the logic." And he's able to explain the logic. And I'm like, "Oh, I didn't see it from that point." Or vice versa, sometimes he's like, "Logic. This doesn't make sense." I'm like, "No, Todd, I feel it. I don't know why, but I can feel this is going to be the thing." And he'll default to me a lot of times. But it's made for a really good working relationship. And so, in that situation, yes, we can have multiple entrepreneurs work effectively on a project in the business, but you have to have complimentary skillsets, not the same. I think the same makes it very, very difficult. And so, anyway, that's the thought process. And then one of the followup questions, someone said, he said, "This makes me think of Steven Larsen and how he worked with Russell, but since he was too entrepreneurial, he had to leave and pursue his own path." So those who don't know Steven Larsen, he worked as my chief funnel builder for two years sitting next to me. And Steve and I have very similar skillsets as well, not the same, but very similar. Funnel building and speaking, and things like that. And so, it was tough because inside of the ClickFunnels organization, it was hard for Steven to be like, "Hey, I want this role" because that was my role. And so he was able to do a lot of cool things and work with us and have success. But there's a point where he was just like, "Inside of this environment, there's already a Michael Jordan. I can't be the Michael Jordan." If there wasn't, he could have been in this environment and said, "I'm going to take that role" and stepped up and dominated it. But because there's already someone playing that role, it was hard for him. So he wanted that role. He desired that role. He had developed himself so he'd be worthy of that role. And so he had to go out on his own to go and create it. And he did. And he's been super successful ever since then. And so, anyway, that's what I wanted to share with you guys. I think knowing that it's looking at any kind of partnership and looking at, first off, are you going to get along with that person? Which you never know, short term it's easy to get along with people, long-term, you never know till you get in business with them. But making sure you have enough love and respect for somebody that if it works or doesn't work, you're able to work it out. Dean and I, I love him as much now as I did before, and we never got any big fights or arguments, but it was just like, we both knew, I think. It was just like, "Hey, you're Michael Jordan. We don't need two of us. We're going to lose the game if we do that. We need someone who is in charge." And I was able to hand the reins to him and he's running with it, and you'll see what they're doing during the next launch, and it's amazing. It's definitely probably different than I would have done it, but doesn't matter. There's no right or wrong, it's just whose vision are you executing on. And Dean's vision is amazing. And so, that's how it worked. With Todd and I, it's a little different. And he's able to execute on the vision on his side, I can execute on the vision on my side, and we have love and respect for each other that we can make it so it all works. And so, think about that as you're going into business with people, if you are doing partnerships. Unfortunately, that was one of the negative things I saw in the Inner Circle. One of the reasons why I eventually paused it was just there started being drama. People starting businesses together and not working out. And then there being hard feelings. Those are the things that always want to be cautious of. So I'm always very nervous getting into any kind of partnership or relationship. It's good to work with each other I think as either employee, employer for a while, or as project based stuff until you've had a chance to see how they're reacting to the situations and how you get along with them and stuff like that. Because, a lot of times, if you get into business together and it doesn't work out, it can end a friendship, which is the worst thing. And for me, this business is just a game we're playing to keep ourselves occupied, and it doesn't actually really matter that much. So, it's just part of it. It's a big game we're playing to hopefully learn some skillsets, meet new people along the way. So, there you go. There's my answer for, is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work effectively together on a project or within a business, or is it better to have one entrepreneur leader and build a team of talented people to execute their vision? So, hope that helps. That said, thank you guys all for listening to this podcast. If you enjoyed it, please go to iTunes and rate and review it. I've been doing this for six, seven, eight years now. And if you haven't had a chance to review it, please, I'm trying to bring you things that I feel like will help you invest in your business. Hopefully they are. Go rate and review. Leave some stars, even if you don't love it. Let us know. We read those, and it would let me know how I can better serve you guys in the future. So, that said, thanks again, and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. 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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, we are taking some questions from some of our listeners, which I'm excited for.

So the question we're going to talk about today is, is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work effectively on a project or within a business, or is it better to have one entrepreneur or leader and build a team of talented people to execute on their vision? So, I got some examples with this and I'll share it when we get back from the theme song.

All right, everybody. So the longer you do podcasts, the harder it is to come up with new ideas. So we started asking our audience and you guys, what kind of things would you like to hear about? What questions do you have? And we got a ton of them back. So I'll start sprinkling these in more often and the stories behind them, and hopefully it'll help you guys on your journey. I also feel like I'm getting close to really upgrading the Marketing Secrets experience. I have some ideas and things I want to do and create that I'm pumped for. And so, anyway, those things will be coming soon. So as a faithful listener, you will be on the front lines of some amazing, amazing, cool things.

All right, so the question, let me restate it. And this is in context to, a lot of you guys saw the project we did at Mastermind.com. And so Mastermind.com, obviously it was me, Dean, and Tony, initially. And obviously, Tony used his face and his content and everything, but it was really me and Dean Graziosi who were running that business initially. And then if you notice now, the new launch is coming up, you'll probably notice that my face isn't on it. And a lot of people have been asking, "Wait. What happened? Did you get in a fight with those guys? Are you still working on it? Are you not part of it? What's the whole process? How's it all working?"

And then the question that came tied to that is, is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work effectively on a project or within a business, or is it better to have one entrepreneur leader and build a team of talented people execute their vision? And there's a couple of follow-up questions on that as well, but I'll address that first. And it's funny, because I see that a lot of times when I was running my Inner Circle meetings, which I'm thinking about bringing back. Would you guys be interested if I brought back my inner circle? Anyway, I'll post that there and just leave it for a few minutes.

But anyway, I noticed a lot of times these entrepreneurs would come to group, and everyone who is an entrepreneur, unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, they all have a million ideas and their ideas are all amazing. And so, they all come in there and everybody has got these ideas and everyone is doing things. And also, two people have an idea during a meeting and they're like, "We should start a business together" and they get together. And unfortunately, it rarely ever goes well. Sometimes it does. Every once in a while it does go really, really well. But so many times it starts where you have two idea people, they get in a room, they have an idea together, they birthed this thing, and they're like, "We should do it together." But then they start working on it, executing on it, depending on where their skillset lie, either it goes really, really well, or really, really bad, or somewhere in between there.

And that honestly is what happened with Mastermind.com. If you look at Dean Graziosi and me, I love Dean, he's one of my favorite people I've met since I've been on this planet. I have so much love and respect for him and his family and what he does and his mission and his vision, and it's amazing. In fact, I think one of the reasons why I have so much respect for Dean is I think of all the people in this industry, I think me and him have the most similar skillsets, which is interesting. Dean writes books. I write books. Dean builds funnels. I build funnels. Dean creates content. I create content and courses. Dean runs a Mastermind group. I run a Mastermind group. Dean speaks at stages and closes deals on stages. I speak on stages. Dean ran a big call center. I ran a big call center.

If you look at... I don't know, I know people who write books. I know people who build funnels. I know people who build courses. I know people who run companies. I know people who... all these different skillsets. But there's only one other person I know besides me who does it all. And so I think that's why Dean and I have such a good connection is, we both see each other, like "Man, nobody else out here is running the size business you are, and creating the ads, and writing the copy, and writing the book and all kind of things."

And so, I have so much respect for him. And so that's why I think a lot of times we love working together. We have ideas and we bounce ideas off each other, and we brainstorm. And it's fun to have someone that I can pitch and catch with back and forth. And I just love it. And so that's why when the whole Mastermind thing came up, Dean had this idea for Mastermind.com. Well, he had a different name for it, and I was like, "You should buy Mastermind.com." And he didn't want to pay for it, so I bought it and gave to him as a gift. And then in exchange, he basically gave me some equity in the company. He said, "You come be part of this thing. It would be really, really cool." So over the last two years, I've been at different stages involved with Mastermind.com. With the first launch of the KBB course, I was a partner in that. And then, later we built software together at that's actually at Mastermind.com and did a whole launch together. And it's fun.

And this is what I wanted to share with you guys. The difficulties is that Dean and I have literally the exact same skillset. But just because we have the same skillset, the direction or the vision of where we want things, isn't always a 100% in alignment. And it's tough because both of us have had tons of success, saying, "This is my vision, my plan, let's go." And it's tough when you have someone who you come in and you both have different visions a little bit, but same drive and same motivation and same skillsets.

There were times where it was hard for both of us, where I was like, "I want to go this way." He's like, "Well, I want to go this way." I'm like, "Well, I think I'm right." He's like, "Well, I think I'm right." But I'm not used to somebody trumping me, and he's the same way. And it's like, "What do we do?" And it got to the point where, it was never negative, but it was just hard. Someone needed to carry on the vision. Someone needed to be able to run. Someone needed to be able to do it without the checks and balances of the other person.

And so, eventually, because it's his baby and his thing, and we're working on something really big at ClickFunnels, I was like, "You know what? The initial launch was done. It was fun. We had a great experience. We made a lot of money. We helped a lot of people. It was great. Everything was great." But I was just like, "This is your vision. This is your baby." And so I passed it back. I said, "Look, I'm going to give it back to you." And in exchange, he sent us some really cool gifts. He sent Todd an amazing gift for Todd's wife, actually, him and his wife. And then he sent me a really cool gift as well. Which, if you ever see me on stage at Funnel Hacking wearing a blue amazing watch, that was the gift he sent me. And anyway, it ended in great. And we're still super close friends and still doing deals together and everything. But I think what we learned from that experience was just, "Look, if two people have the same skillset, it's hard to be business partners in a thing, because you both have the same skillset.

Now, I want to contrast that with Todd. When I start working with Todd, Todd is amazing. Todd's an entrepreneur, Todd's got vision, Todd's got all sorts of things. But Todd's skillset, and if you don't know, Todd, Todd Dickerson is my co-founder at ClickFunnels. He's the one who runs the software side of things. We both are entrepreneurs in our own ways. But our skillsets, they aren't the same. They compliment, they're not the same thing. It's like in basketball, you don't need two Michael Jordan's on a basketball team. If you have two Michael Jordans on a basketball team, it's going to struggle. You need a Michael Jordan and a Scotty Pippen. And as someone who is not a big basketball guy, I think I nailed that analogy, I hope. But you know what I mean?

So, you look at me and Todd, Todd and I are like a Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippen. In fact, I don't know if you guys have seen the Michael Jordan documentary, it's called The Last Dance. It's, I think nine or 10 episodes. It's insanely good. If you haven't watched it, you need to go watch it. But one of the first things that Jordan said, he said, "Without Scotty Pippen, there's no Michael Jordan." And I would say the same thing, without Todd Dickerson, there's no Russell Brunson. I couldn't do what I need to do without his skillset. And Todd would probably say the same thing. Todd can build amazing software, but it wouldn't have become ClickFunnels without me. Our skillsets compliment each other. And without Todd, I couldn't be me. Without me, he probably couldn't do what he's trying to do. And so it's a complimentary skill set.

And so, because of that, we were able to come together and we were able to build this thing called ClickFunnels. And Todd and I have such love and respect for each other. It's nice because Todd can say, "Look, I default to you, Russell, on these things." And I default to Todd on these things.

In fact, one of the fascinating things, we have a new personality assessment company coming out that we're launching here in the next couple of months, so I've been geeking out on that. But it's interesting, if you look at Todd and I's 16 personalities or Myers-Briggs test, we basically have the exact same personality, except for Todd is a thinker and I'm a feeler. So it's cool now that we've learned that as I'm interacting with Todd, I understand that we're the same in so many ways, but he's going to analyze things logically and I'm going to feel things out. And so I'll tell him in a message, I'll say, "Hey, Todd, this is the thing that I want to do. This is why I feel like that. But I'm curious, what do you think about that?" I literally will say it that way. And Todd will come back, "Well, I think this." And he'll come back and say, "How do you feel?"

And so it's really cool now that we understand that. And so, a lot of times what will happen is that my emotions will feel something I want to be really, really strong, but because it's so strong, and I want to do it, my brain turns off logic and, screw logic, we're just going to do this, where then Todd comes in and says, "Well, that's awesome, but here's the logic." And he's able to explain the logic. And I'm like, "Oh, I didn't see it from that point." Or vice versa, sometimes he's like, "Logic. This doesn't make sense." I'm like, "No, Todd, I feel it. I don't know why, but I can feel this is going to be the thing." And he'll default to me a lot of times. But it's made for a really good working relationship.

And so, in that situation, yes, we can have multiple entrepreneurs work effectively on a project in the business, but you have to have complimentary skillsets, not the same. I think the same makes it very, very difficult. And so, anyway, that's the thought process. And then one of the followup questions, someone said, he said, "This makes me think of Steven Larsen and how he worked with Russell, but since he was too entrepreneurial, he had to leave and pursue his own path."

So those who don't know Steven Larsen, he worked as my chief funnel builder for two years sitting next to me. And Steve and I have very similar skillsets as well, not the same, but very similar. Funnel building and speaking, and things like that. And so, it was tough because inside of the ClickFunnels organization, it was hard for Steven to be like, "Hey, I want this role" because that was my role. And so he was able to do a lot of cool things and work with us and have success. But there's a point where he was just like, "Inside of this environment, there's already a Michael Jordan. I can't be the Michael Jordan." If there wasn't, he could have been in this environment and said, "I'm going to take that role" and stepped up and dominated it. But because there's already someone playing that role, it was hard for him. So he wanted that role. He desired that role. He had developed himself so he'd be worthy of that role.

And so he had to go out on his own to go and create it. And he did. And he's been super successful ever since then. And so, anyway, that's what I wanted to share with you guys. I think knowing that it's looking at any kind of partnership and looking at, first off, are you going to get along with that person? Which you never know, short term it's easy to get along with people, long-term, you never know till you get in business with them. But making sure you have enough love and respect for somebody that if it works or doesn't work, you're able to work it out. Dean and I, I love him as much now as I did before, and we never got any big fights or arguments, but it was just like, we both knew, I think. It was just like, "Hey, you're Michael Jordan. We don't need two of us. We're going to lose the game if we do that. We need someone who is in charge."

And I was able to hand the reins to him and he's running with it, and you'll see what they're doing during the next launch, and it's amazing. It's definitely probably different than I would have done it, but doesn't matter. There's no right or wrong, it's just whose vision are you executing on. And Dean's vision is amazing. And so, that's how it worked.

With Todd and I, it's a little different. And he's able to execute on the vision on his side, I can execute on the vision on my side, and we have love and respect for each other that we can make it so it all works.

And so, think about that as you're going into business with people, if you are doing partnerships. Unfortunately, that was one of the negative things I saw in the Inner Circle. One of the reasons why I eventually paused it was just there started being drama. People starting businesses together and not working out. And then there being hard feelings. Those are the things that always want to be cautious of.

So I'm always very nervous getting into any kind of partnership or relationship. It's good to work with each other I think as either employee, employer for a while, or as project based stuff until you've had a chance to see how they're reacting to the situations and how you get along with them and stuff like that. Because, a lot of times, if you get into business together and it doesn't work out, it can end a friendship, which is the worst thing. And for me, this business is just a game we're playing to keep ourselves occupied, and it doesn't actually really matter that much. So, it's just part of it. It's a big game we're playing to hopefully learn some skillsets, meet new people along the way.

So, there you go. There's my answer for, is it possible for multiple entrepreneurs to work effectively together on a project or within a business, or is it better to have one entrepreneur leader and build a team of talented people to execute their vision?

So, hope that helps. That said, thank you guys all for listening to this podcast. If you enjoyed it, please go to iTunes and rate and review it. I've been doing this for six, seven, eight years now. And if you haven't had a chance to review it, please, I'm trying to bring you things that I feel like will help you invest in your business. Hopefully they are. Go rate and review. Leave some stars, even if you don't love it. Let us know. We read those, and it would let me know how I can better serve you guys in the future. So, that said, thanks again, and I'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 918 no The Bootstrapped Manifesto https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-bootstrapped-manifesto Why be an entrepreneur? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Excited to be here with you guys today. Today we'll be talking about what I call the Bootstrapped Manifesto. Something I read from Jason Fried, who was one of the co-founders of Basecamp, and it is amazing. I want to share with you guys today when we get back from the intro. All right. So it's not a secret. Some of you guys know that not now, but in the future I'm writing a book called Bootstrapped. I bought the domain name, bootstrapped.com. We have a new award coming out of Funnel Hacking Live. I can't tell you a lot about other than it's the Bootstrapped Entrepreneur of the Year Award and a bunch of other things. I'm obsessed with bootstrapping. In fact, we bootstrapped ClickFunnels from zero to where it is today. It's an amazing story that we love to talk about and brag about. I think I have a place in my heart for all businesses who bootstrap. That thought, that concept, things keep coming out of my mind because I'm so excited about writing the book and it's going to be the ClickFunnels story, how we bootstrapped ClickFunnels. I want to turn bootstrapped.com into TechCrunch, but TechCrunch for people who didn't cheat and take on money. I'm just looking for things tied around bootstrapping and starting businesses and everything. Today actually, yeah today, Jason Fried, he's one of the co-founders of Basecamp, wrote an article on his blog that is insane. I read it, and I literally just messaged Todd. I said, "This is like the title, Liberty for Bootstrapped and Bootstrapping." It is amazing. If you don't know Jason ... There's two co-founders of Basecamp. It's interesting. It's very similar to the two co-founders of ClickFunnels. One is named DHH. That's his nickname, I don't know, it's David something. Anyway, he is the Todd of base camp. He's a hardcore coder. And then Jason is like the marketing dude for Basecamp, which is like me. I feel like he's a kindred spirit. I had a chance to interview him once, man, almost a decade ago when he wrote the book, Rework, which is one of my favorite books of all time. But he's just amazing. I digress. I want to share with you this article from him. I'm just going to read it to you. I'll probably mess up my reading, but it is ... When I read it, I was like, "Yes, this is why we bootstrap. This is why we're entrepreneurs." So he wrote this article on April 8, 2021, which is the day that I'm recording this. The title was, Why to be an Entrepreneur. He said, "Earlier this week, I caught up with a friend and fellow CEO over lunch. We are in entirely different industries, but as we usually do, we talk a little shop. We've both been at the wheel for a while and we both built lasting businesses without any outside capital. One of the topics we slid into is why to be an entrepreneur, not why sort of or why kind or why sometimes, but why really? If you had to boil it down, what's the one reason? When all the liquid's gone, what does entrepreneurship reduce to? For me it's this. You get to do things that no one else would give you permission to do. That's it. At least that's how I see it. I don't ask anyone's permission, seek anyone's permission or be granted anyone's permission. It ain't about getting rich. That's a crapshoot with terrible odds. It ain't about power influence. If you happen into those things, maybe they're a bonus. Although maybe they're not. And it's not just about doing the things you want to do or freedom. That definition skips the details. It's too broad. This is really about doing things that someone else wouldn't let you do if you had to ask. That's the one thing you get to do no matter what. It's about doing things that doesn't make sense. They don't fit into the obvious frameworks. They don't add up, line up or seem like they'll even hold up. It's those things, the unusual, the unjustifiable, the downright fun, regardless of what happens. That made me want to be an entrepreneur and to stay one too. Once those things go away, I'm out. There are millions of people better suited to follow your rules than me. But of course, this is a very specific breed of entrepreneurship. It's a bootstrapped one. It's one without a board of directors. It's one without an oversight body. It's one where no decks have to be developed and distributed around the table. One where you don't have to pitch something to someone else who's got something riding on your success. One where your gut is the only thing that's going to get punched if you're wrong. This is the fun in it for me. It's obviously a privilege, but more so an obligation. We must do things at Basecamp that no one else would let us do. If we don't, we aren't living up to the opportunity we have, the position we put ourselves in, the decisions we made to be this way and to stay this way. We must launch stuff that no one else would approve, name things in a way that would never fly if they had to go through a committee, stand for things that seem like you put yourself at odds with the bigger bottom line. We must leave money on the table because someone else will grab it all. We must. We must make things that could only come from us. It doesn't make them better or worse, it just makes them ours. And hopefully if you like what we're up to, then they're yours too. That's the reason." Oh, I read that. I was just like, "Oh my gosh, so many good quotes. So many things that should be on a T-shirt." So many things that I probably will be putting out a T-shirt maybe at Funnel Hacking Live or something. One of them, "There are a million people better suited to follow your rules than me." How cool is that? Talking about there's no board of directors, there's no one with an oversight. Every time you have an idea for something you want to create, you don't have to make a slide deck and send it to your board of directors. You don't have to pitch somebody every time you want to do something. You just get to do what you think is right. That's the power of entrepreneurship, of being bootstrapped. When Todd sent me this article, he said, "This is why VCs are the anti-entrepreneurship black hole. Ask your VC overlords for permission constantly. That's literally what it is. I have so many friends who've taken on money, who have VC backing, and they can't do anything. In fact, we had one partner we were trying to work with. They had a really cool software company. And we wanted to acquire and we didn't want to pay any money for it. We just wanted to take it over because they're struggling. They're not profitable. They're losing money. It's something that if we introduced to ClickFunnels community would blow up overnight. It's such a cool tool and so powerful. The founder, the entrepreneur, the owner was so excited and he understood and he said, "Yes. If you give me this salary and do this and this, I will give you a 100%. I'll let you guys take over the company, and I'll get paid a salary to keep doing it. You guys will blow it up and I'll get a profit share." It was such a good deal for him. It was amazing. Then he had to take it to his board, the investors who'd given money to the business and all the board members were like, "Why would you do that? It doesn't make any sense? He's like, "These guys are the greatest marketers of all time. They have a customer list of millions and millions people who would buy our software." You just try to explain to them everything. They're like, "It doesn't make sense. We're not going to let these guys just take over control of the company without giving us any money." They wouldn't do it. Unfortunately for him, in tears, he had called us and was just like, "I know this is the best deal for me and for the company and for the future, but I can't do it because the backers, the people who gave me money said no, and it's up to them." The VC overlords were not giving permission. That was the thing. If you want to be an entrepreneur, you have to protect yourself from that black hole, from taking on money where now people own your creativity. They own your ideas. They own everything. Where they can tell you yes or no, and you can't create. Anyway, I just wanted to read that to you because first off, Jason Fried is the man. Second off, This is like a manifesto for us bootstrapped entrepreneurs. I hope that you enjoyed it. I hope you loved it. With that said, thank you guys for listening. If you did enjoy this one, please take a screenshot on your phone, post it on Facebook, Instagram, or any of the places you post stuff and please tag me. I love seeing that you're actually listening to these things and you enjoy it. If you did get anything from this, please share this podcast with other people, other people who are like me and you who are bootstrapped entrepreneurs who are trying to take over the world. Thank you. I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Bootstrapped Manifesto full 405 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Why be an entrepreneur? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Excited to be here with you guys... Why be an entrepreneur? Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Excited to be here with you guys today. Today we'll be talking about what I call the Bootstrapped Manifesto. Something I read from Jason Fried, who was one of the co-founders of Basecamp, and it is amazing. I want to share with you guys today when we get back from the intro. All right. So it's not a secret. Some of you guys know that not now, but in the future I'm writing a book called Bootstrapped. I bought the domain name, bootstrapped.com. We have a new award coming out of Funnel Hacking Live. I can't tell you a lot about other than it's the Bootstrapped Entrepreneur of the Year Award and a bunch of other things. I'm obsessed with bootstrapping. In fact, we bootstrapped ClickFunnels from zero to where it is today. It's an amazing story that we love to talk about and brag about. I think I have a place in my heart for all businesses who bootstrap. That thought, that concept, things keep coming out of my mind because I'm so excited about writing the book and it's going to be the ClickFunnels story, how we bootstrapped ClickFunnels. I want to turn bootstrapped.com into TechCrunch, but TechCrunch for people who didn't cheat and take on money. I'm just looking for things tied around bootstrapping and starting businesses and everything. Today actually, yeah today, Jason Fried, he's one of the co-founders of Basecamp, wrote an article on his blog that is insane. I read it, and I literally just messaged Todd. I said, "This is like the title, Liberty for Bootstrapped and Bootstrapping." It is amazing. If you don't know Jason ... There's two co-founders of Basecamp. It's interesting. It's very similar to the two co-founders of ClickFunnels. One is named DHH. That's his nickname, I don't know, it's David something. Anyway, he is the Todd of base camp. He's a hardcore coder. And then Jason is like the marketing dude for Basecamp, which is like me. I feel like he's a kindred spirit. I had a chance to interview him once, man, almost a decade ago when he wrote the book, Rework, which is one of my favorite books of all time. But he's just amazing. I digress. I want to share with you this article from him. I'm just going to read it to you. I'll probably mess up my reading, but it is ... When I read it, I was like, "Yes, this is why we bootstrap. This is why we're entrepreneurs." So he wrote this article on April 8, 2021, which is the day that I'm recording this. The title was, Why to be an Entrepreneur. He said, "Earlier this week, I caught up with a friend and fellow CEO over lunch. We are in entirely different industries, but as we usually do, we talk a little shop. We've both been at the wheel for a while and we both built lasting businesses without any outside capital. One of the topics we slid into is why to be an entrepreneur, not why sort of or why kind or why sometimes, but why really? If you had to boil it down, what's the one reason? When all the liquid's gone, what does entrepreneurship reduce to? For me it's this. You get to do things that no one else would give you permission to do. That's it. At least that's how I see it. I don't ask anyone's permission, seek anyone's permission or be granted anyone's permission. It ain't about getting rich. That's a crapshoot with terrible odds. It ain't about power influence. If you happen into those things, maybe they're a bonus. Although maybe they're not. And it's not just about doing the things you want to do or freedom. That definition skips the details. It's too broad. This is really about doing things that someone else wouldn't let you do if you had to ask. That's the one thing you get to do no matter what. It's about doing things that doesn't make sense. They don't fit into the obvious frameworks. They don't add up, line up or seem like they'll even hold up. It's those things, the unusual, the unjustifiable, the downright fun, regardless of what happens. That made me want to be an entrepreneur and to stay one too. Once those things go away, I'm out. There are millions of people better suited to follow your rules than me. But of course, this is a very specific breed of entrepreneurship. It's a bootstrapped one. It's one without a board of directors. It's one without an oversight body. It's one where no decks have to be developed and distributed around the table. One where you don't have to pitch something to someone else who's got something riding on your success. One where your gut is the only thing that's going to get punched if you're wrong. This is the fun in it for me. It's obviously a privilege, but more so an obligation. We must do things at Basecamp that no one else would let us do. If we don't, we aren't living up to the opportunity we have, the position we put ourselves in, the decisions we made to be this way and to stay this way. We must launch stuff that no one else would approve, name things in a way that would never fly if they had to go through a committee, stand for things that seem like you put yourself at odds with the bigger bottom line. We must leave money on the table because someone else will grab it all. We must. We must make things that could only come from us. It doesn't make them better or worse, it just makes them ours. And hopefully if you like what we're up to, then they're yours too. That's the reason." Oh, I read that. I was just like, "Oh my gosh, so many good quotes. So many things that should be on a T-shirt." So many things that I probably will be putting out a T-shirt maybe at Funnel Hacking Live or something. One of them, "There are a million people better suited to follow your rules than me." How cool is that? Talking about there's no board of directors, there's no one with an oversight. Every time you have an idea for something you want to create, you don't have to make a slide deck and send it to your board of directors. You don't have to pitch somebody every time you want to do something. You just get to do what you think is right. That's the power of entrepreneurship, of being bootstrapped. When Todd sent me this article, he said, "This is why VCs are the anti-entrepreneurship black hole. Ask your VC overlords for permission constantly. That's literally what it is. I have so many friends who've taken on money, who have VC backing, and they can't do anything. In fact, we had one partner we were trying to work with. They had a really cool software company. And we wanted to acquire and we didn't want to pay any money for it. We just wanted to take it over because they're struggling. They're not profitable. They're losing money. It's something that if we introduced to ClickFunnels community would blow up overnight. It's such a cool tool and so powerful. The founder, the entrepreneur, the owner was so excited and he understood and he said, "Yes. If you give me this salary and do this and this, I will give you a 100%. I'll let you guys take over the company, and I'll get paid a salary to keep doing it. You guys will blow it up and I'll get a profit share." It was such a good deal for him. It was amazing. Then he had to take it to his board, the investors who'd given money to the business and all the board members were like, "Why would you do that? It doesn't make any sense? He's like, "These guys are the greatest marketers of all time. They have a customer list of millions and millions people who would buy our software." You just try to explain to them everything. They're like, "It doesn't make sense. We're not going to let these guys just take over control of the company without giving us any money." They wouldn't do it. Unfortunately for him, in tears, he had called us and was just like, "I know this is the best deal for me and for the company and for the future, but I can't do it because the backers, the people who gave me money said no, and it's up to them." The VC overlords were not giving permission. That was the thing. If you want to be an entrepreneur, you have to protect yourself from that black hole, from taking on money where now people own your creativity. They own your ideas. They own everything. Where they can tell you yes or no, and you can't create. Anyway, I just wanted to read that to you because first off, Jason Fried is the man. Second off, This is like a manifesto for us bootstrapped entrepreneurs. I hope that you enjoyed it. I hope you loved it. With that said, thank you guys for listening. If you did enjoy this one, please take a screenshot on your phone, post it on Facebook, Instagram, or any of the places you post stuff and please tag me. I love seeing that you're actually listening to these things and you enjoy it. If you did get anything from this, please share this podcast with other people, other people who are like me and you who are bootstrapped entrepreneurs who are trying to take over the world. Thank you. I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Why be an entrepreneur?

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---Transcript---

What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Excited to be here with you guys today. Today we'll be talking about what I call the Bootstrapped Manifesto. Something I read from Jason Fried, who was one of the co-founders of Basecamp, and it is amazing. I want to share with you guys today when we get back from the intro.

All right. So it's not a secret. Some of you guys know that not now, but in the future I'm writing a book called Bootstrapped. I bought the domain name, bootstrapped.com. We have a new award coming out of Funnel Hacking Live. I can't tell you a lot about other than it's the Bootstrapped Entrepreneur of the Year Award and a bunch of other things.

I'm obsessed with bootstrapping. In fact, we bootstrapped ClickFunnels from zero to where it is today. It's an amazing story that we love to talk about and brag about. I think I have a place in my heart for all businesses who bootstrap. That thought, that concept, things keep coming out of my mind because I'm so excited about writing the book and it's going to be the ClickFunnels story, how we bootstrapped ClickFunnels. I want to turn bootstrapped.com into TechCrunch, but TechCrunch for people who didn't cheat and take on money. I'm just looking for things tied around bootstrapping and starting businesses and everything. Today actually, yeah today, Jason Fried, he's one of the co-founders of Basecamp, wrote an article on his blog that is insane. I read it, and I literally just messaged Todd. I said, "This is like the title, Liberty for Bootstrapped and Bootstrapping." It is amazing.

If you don't know Jason ... There's two co-founders of Basecamp. It's interesting. It's very similar to the two co-founders of ClickFunnels. One is named DHH. That's his nickname, I don't know, it's David something. Anyway, he is the Todd of base camp. He's a hardcore coder. And then Jason is like the marketing dude for Basecamp, which is like me. I feel like he's a kindred spirit. I had a chance to interview him once, man, almost a decade ago when he wrote the book, Rework, which is one of my favorite books of all time. But he's just amazing.

I digress. I want to share with you this article from him. I'm just going to read it to you. I'll probably mess up my reading, but it is ... When I read it, I was like, "Yes, this is why we bootstrap. This is why we're entrepreneurs." So he wrote this article on April 8, 2021, which is the day that I'm recording this. The title was, Why to be an Entrepreneur.

He said, "Earlier this week, I caught up with a friend and fellow CEO over lunch. We are in entirely different industries, but as we usually do, we talk a little shop. We've both been at the wheel for a while and we both built lasting businesses without any outside capital. One of the topics we slid into is why to be an entrepreneur, not why sort of or why kind or why sometimes, but why really? If you had to boil it down, what's the one reason? When all the liquid's gone, what does entrepreneurship reduce to? For me it's this. You get to do things that no one else would give you permission to do. That's it. At least that's how I see it. I don't ask anyone's permission, seek anyone's permission or be granted anyone's permission. It ain't about getting rich. That's a crapshoot with terrible odds. It ain't about power influence. If you happen into those things, maybe they're a bonus. Although maybe they're not.

And it's not just about doing the things you want to do or freedom. That definition skips the details. It's too broad. This is really about doing things that someone else wouldn't let you do if you had to ask. That's the one thing you get to do no matter what. It's about doing things that doesn't make sense. They don't fit into the obvious frameworks. They don't add up, line up or seem like they'll even hold up. It's those things, the unusual, the unjustifiable, the downright fun, regardless of what happens. That made me want to be an entrepreneur and to stay one too. Once those things go away, I'm out. There are millions of people better suited to follow your rules than me.

But of course, this is a very specific breed of entrepreneurship. It's a bootstrapped one. It's one without a board of directors. It's one without an oversight body. It's one where no decks have to be developed and distributed around the table. One where you don't have to pitch something to someone else who's got something riding on your success. One where your gut is the only thing that's going to get punched if you're wrong. This is the fun in it for me. It's obviously a privilege, but more so an obligation. We must do things at Basecamp that no one else would let us do. If we don't, we aren't living up to the opportunity we have, the position we put ourselves in, the decisions we made to be this way and to stay this way. We must launch stuff that no one else would approve, name things in a way that would never fly if they had to go through a committee, stand for things that seem like you put yourself at odds with the bigger bottom line. We must leave money on the table because someone else will grab it all. We must.

We must make things that could only come from us. It doesn't make them better or worse, it just makes them ours. And hopefully if you like what we're up to, then they're yours too. That's the reason."

Oh, I read that. I was just like, "Oh my gosh, so many good quotes. So many things that should be on a T-shirt." So many things that I probably will be putting out a T-shirt maybe at Funnel Hacking Live or something. One of them, "There are a million people better suited to follow your rules than me." How cool is that? Talking about there's no board of directors, there's no one with an oversight. Every time you have an idea for something you want to create, you don't have to make a slide deck and send it to your board of directors. You don't have to pitch somebody every time you want to do something. You just get to do what you think is right. That's the power of entrepreneurship, of being bootstrapped.

When Todd sent me this article, he said, "This is why VCs are the anti-entrepreneurship black hole. Ask your VC overlords for permission constantly. That's literally what it is. I have so many friends who've taken on money, who have VC backing, and they can't do anything.

In fact, we had one partner we were trying to work with. They had a really cool software company. And we wanted to acquire and we didn't want to pay any money for it. We just wanted to take it over because they're struggling. They're not profitable. They're losing money. It's something that if we introduced to ClickFunnels community would blow up overnight. It's such a cool tool and so powerful. The founder, the entrepreneur, the owner was so excited and he understood and he said, "Yes. If you give me this salary and do this and this, I will give you a 100%. I'll let you guys take over the company, and I'll get paid a salary to keep doing it. You guys will blow it up and I'll get a profit share." It was such a good deal for him. It was amazing.

Then he had to take it to his board, the investors who'd given money to the business and all the board members were like, "Why would you do that? It doesn't make any sense? He's like, "These guys are the greatest marketers of all time. They have a customer list of millions and millions people who would buy our software." You just try to explain to them everything. They're like, "It doesn't make sense. We're not going to let these guys just take over control of the company without giving us any money."

They wouldn't do it. Unfortunately for him, in tears, he had called us and was just like, "I know this is the best deal for me and for the company and for the future, but I can't do it because the backers, the people who gave me money said no, and it's up to them." The VC overlords were not giving permission. That was the thing. If you want to be an entrepreneur, you have to protect yourself from that black hole, from taking on money where now people own your creativity. They own your ideas. They own everything. Where they can tell you yes or no, and you can't create.

Anyway, I just wanted to read that to you because first off, Jason Fried is the man. Second off, This is like a manifesto for us bootstrapped entrepreneurs. I hope that you enjoyed it. I hope you loved it.

With that said, thank you guys for listening. If you did enjoy this one, please take a screenshot on your phone, post it on Facebook, Instagram, or any of the places you post stuff and please tag me. I love seeing that you're actually listening to these things and you enjoy it. If you did get anything from this, please share this podcast with other people, other people who are like me and you who are bootstrapped entrepreneurs who are trying to take over the world. Thank you. I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 565 no What "Being Coachable" Actually Looks Like https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-being-coachable-actually-looks-like Let me show you what life’s most important skill looks like. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast, I hope you guys are pumped today. Today, I'm going to talk to you guys about some crazy stuff I'm doing right now and I want you understand the secret behind what I think is probably the most important skillset you can possibly learn during this life and that is how to be coachable. All right, all right. So, I am... it's late night and I'm actually driving to go get my son from one of his friend's houses and I got, it's probably 10-minute drive so it's like, I would jump out and hang out with you guys while we're going. And I am at the end of day number one of a water fast. Yes, a water fast. I'm literally going to drink nothing but water for the next five days. I think some of you guys are rolling your eyes and you think I'm insane. I know this because I posted on Instagram today and I got thousands of messages coming back to me, from everybody telling me why I'm dumb, why I'm smart and about a million things in between. But that doesn't matter to me because I'm doing it for a purpose and a reason and I'll explain why here in a second. But before I do, I want to talk about what I think is one of the most, maybe not want of the, but probably the most important skillset you can learn in this life. And I don't know how I was blessed with it and I didn't even know I had it until I remember my ... it was actually my sophomore year in high school and I joined this freestyle wrestling team and the team was called Elite and I was probably the worst kid to join Elite. Somehow my dad got me in and it was all these guys who were amazing at wrestling. It was a private club for these guys and they all, "I'm sure you'll get better." I was in this group and I was having so much fun being around these guys who were amazing. I've seen them winning all these big tournaments and everything. And so, I remember going to one of our tournaments, wrestlers tournament and I don't remember exactly how, but I just remember a wrestlers match and I lost. And the coach pulled me off side and it was Greg Williams, he's now actually the Head Wrestling Coach at UVU, but he was my freestyle wrestling coach in this little club we were in. And I remember he pulled me off side he said, "Hey Russell, this is what you're doing wrong." And just like a normal coach, he walks you through to two, three or four things. I was like, "Okay." And so, I paid attention, I listened and in the next match, went through I wrestled and I did the things that he told me to do. Surprise, surprise, right? So, I did the things like I literally just ... he told me to do something so I did. And I remember the next match I won, I came off the mat, he looked at me kind of strange, I said, "What?" He said, "You're one of the most coachable athletes I've ever met." I'm like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Most kids I tell them what to do over and over and over and over and over again before it ever sticks." He's like, "I told you what to do and you went in the next match and then you just did it." And he said, "You're one of the most coachable athletes I've ever met." And I remember hearing him say that I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's so cool." And so then, became part of my identity, I'm coachable. My coach tells me something, I'm not going to be skeptical, I'm not going to talk back, I'm going to shut my mouth, I'm going to listen, I'm going to just do what he says. He's my coach, he knows more than I do so I'm going to become as coachable as humanly possible. And over the next eight years of my wrestling career, I think that's why I succeeded at high levels because I was so coachable. Same thing is true for me when I started business. I would come in and I would hire a coach or I would read a book and whatever the book said, I would just follow it, I just did the thing. And long and behold, I became successful because of it. And it's been interesting as I've been on the other side of this now and I've had a chance to coach tons of people and help people. It's interesting how few or how uncoachable most people are. They want to come back and tell you their opinion and why they think they're right and why this and why that and it's just like, "Why would you do that? You hired me to be your coach." It's like, "You literally paid me to teach you this thing and now you're fighting me." It doesn't make any sense to me. I hire somebody as a coach or someone I paid, I just I do what they say. I remember actually, I'm in the middle of my fourth book right now, which has been a fun project to start on. I'm not telling too many details about it yet but there's this one quote in here and it was actually from my friend and he wrote the article about his morning routine and it was so funny. And he's just like talking about all the things he does and how crazy they are and one of the things that he mentioned, I can't remember what it was, it was something weird. And he's like, "Why do I do that?" He's like, "Because Tony Robbins told me so." He said, "I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence." I thought it was so funny. I was like, "Yes, that's how I am. I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. I obey all people who I hire, all coaches, all people who I want to learn from, I obey them, I listen to them, I ask them their advice and then I just do the thing they said." It's the weirdest thing in the world. We recently here at ClickFunnels had a chance to meet with this dude, who's literally one of the smartest students I've ever met. And we were lucky enough he sat down for four hours, four or five hours with us and walked us through. Looking at our business like, "Hey, I would do this, I would do this," and he gives us all these things to do. And so me and Dave Woodward were just taking notes as fast as we can and all the things and just like, "Oh my gosh, this guy's amazing." I remember we got done with the day, it ended and he messaged us a couple of weeks later, two or three weeks later, he's like, "Hey, you want to jump on a call and go over the stuff again?" Like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Well, do you want to go over the stuff we talked about and figure out ways to start implementing?" Like, "No, you understand you don't know how we work. We're implementing everything you said, we literally," and we started going through the we did this, we did this, we did this," and the guy was like, "Oh my gosh," he's like, "I've never had somebody who just did what I told him to do like that before. Yeah, we're very, very coachable. We listen and then we'd do what you say." And so, that's key. So, I want to show it to you because that goes back to my water fast that I'm dealing with right now. So day number one's almost done. And the reason why I'm doing a water fast, actually there's two things. My dad was a insurance agent for State Farm Insurance. I remember that he would, obviously they sell auto insurance and health insurance and all the different, house insurance and things like that. But the one that was the hardest to sell was life insurance. And we were asking him, "Why is it so hard to sell life insurance?" And he said, "Because it's a preventative not a cure." After you get sick, you want life insurance. After you get sick… but it's hard because ahead of time you’re like, "Oh, I'm never going to be sick, I'm going to be fine." It's just like aspirin, no one wants to pre-buy aspirin but if you got a headache, you will give your right arm for some aspirin, right? It's the prevention versus a cure. People don't want to do the prevention and you see it right now, it's insane in our society. People are getting sick and all the problems and everyone will go and they want a magic cure for this thing. But nobody will go back to the root cause and like, "Hey, we're actually super unhealthy, we should change our diet and exercise." The fact that nobody on the news or on TV has mentioned that over the last 12 months is insane. Anyway, I'll get off that soap box in a minute but most people will not go for a preventative, how do you say it, preventative. You know what I'm saying? They wait for a cure though. And I'm not that way. I want to like, "What's a preventative ahead of time?" And so, one of my friends, he joined my inner circle a few years ago his name's Chris Wark and if you've heard of Chris before, he has Chrisbeatscancer.com or Chrisbeatcancer.com. And he is someone who came down he had, I think stage three cancer and ended up curing himself from it naturally without any chemotherapy and all these other things. And then, he's gone on and help hundreds of other people on this journey as well. And he's just an amazing person. He spoke at Funnel Hacking Live one or two years ago and just have so much respect for him. But he came out with the book. And so, I don't have cancer but I was like, the book came out I was like, "I'm going to read this book," and so I bought the book and I listened to it and then he had a course, I bought the course, I went to the course. I'm like, "I'm going through all this stuff because I'm like, "Man, I don't want cancer." I can go wait until I got cancer and then I got to figure this stuff out or freak out or I can be like, "Hey, I don't want cancer. Let me preventatively figure out who's the dude or the lady who's already solved this problem, who's got the framework that fixes this problem and let me figure it out?" And what's crazy and again, I'm not an expert on this at all so don't take my opinion. But if you love someone who has cancer, you should go to chrisbeatcancer.com. If you have cancer, you should. If you don't want to have cancer, once again, you should still go there, you'd be insane not to. So anyway, I'm trying to think where I left off. Anyway, so I was like, "I don't want to have cancer," so I started going through all the stuff, started listening to him, learning from it. It's like, "This is amazing." Oh yeah, I was going to tell you, he says that only 5% of cancers are hereditary, 95% are based on things like your environment, your diet, your stress levels. It's crazy. So it's like, if we know these things, why aren't we talking about these things? Why is it not on TV every single day? When he talked about the first time he went in for, I think it was him or maybe someone else, the first time he went for a cancer thing, the doctor looks at everything and then, after he got out of the thing, gave him hospital food and it's just like junk food, garbage food. It's like, we know what causes these things, why don't we focus in that? But that's not sexy, there's no money in that. There's no money like, "Hey, you should eat healthier, you should exercise, you should change your diet, you should change your environment." And so, it doesn't get the attention it needs. But anyway, so for me, I'm someone who wants to look for a preventative, it's rare. I'd say 0.1% of people in the world search for preventatives. They're always just looking for cures. They wait until something bad happens, look for a cure. I'm trying to figure out how do I protect myself today so that I don't have to worry about that? Maybe I will still have to, who knows, but if I can protect myself, I can fortify myself against that problem, I'm going to do it. So, Chris became my coach, I'm like, "He's the dude, I'm going to go through it and I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence." So for this situation, I obey Chris' work as he's cured himself of cancer, he's cured hundreds of other people like, "Okay, I obey all dudes who cured themselves of cancer when they tell me how to prevent myself from having cancer." So, I just listened to what he said, did it and I'm going through it. So, part of it is this five-day water fast. And it's interesting he talked about how your cells in your body, how there's cells that are weak, there's cells that are dead, there's cells are cancerous, all these sorts of stuff like that. He said, "In your immune system the same way," there's these weaker cells, I'm probably messing up, if Chris is listening to this he's probably rolling his eyes, but you should go buy all his stuff because he'll explain it way better than me. But basically, what happens is when you do a water fast, your body literally starts eating itself because it's like, "I need food or anything," it just starts eating yourself. We know that, that's how you lose weight. Your body starts eating the fat cells or whatever. But in this case, the cells that die, they go the first are the weakest ones. I think one of the analogy is someone shared with me, it might've been him he was like, "If you're out in a forest and there's all these pine needles and pine cones, all the stuff they do controlled burns like the light, those things on fires, it burns all that stuff, it doesn't catch the fields on fire but kills all the dead stuff underneath, that way you don't have problems in the future." It's the same thing here where you do these water fast and your body literally will eat all of these cancer cells and disease and all sorts of stuff. And so, I started learning about that, I got excited, JLD if you guys know John Lee Dumas from Entrepreneurs on Fire, he told me about another book that I read about water fasting and stuff like that. And so I'm like, "I'm all in, let's do this thing." And so, I started day number one of water fasting because I want to kill off these dead cells, I want to protect myself or I want to make myself stronger and heal myself. And so, I'm excited. And if someone who is insanely healthy and in great shape and not having any issues, but man, I don't want to have issues. And so, that's why I'm doing these things now. I think Chris said that he does his water fast once a quarter so I'm probably trying to figure out some way to incorporate that more often on top of a lot of the shifts in my diet that I've made because of listening to Chris and other geniuses. So anyway, I'm telling you this, because number one, I want to tell you that I practice what I preach. I am as coachable as they come, I try my best. I try to listen to what they say, my coaches say, even if I don't have the problem, if I want to protect myself from the future problem, I listen. And so for you, in all aspects of your life, be coachable. Be coachable in business, be coachable in sports, be coachable in health, find coaches, ask, you hire then pay them. Find someone who has already accomplished the thing that you want and then pay them, ask them for advice, get their framework and then go and just do it. And don't question it, don't try to be smarter. Just like, "All right, I may have heard this in the past, I don't care. But at this point in time, I'm giving you my money. Therefore, I will do anything you say. I'm not going to fight you, I'm not going to talk you back, I'm just going to do the thing you say." And then, don't do what most people do like, "Okay, cool," and listen and not do anything, just do it. When I say instantly execute on it, don't wait a day, a week, a month, a year. Now is the time. You gave him the money, now it's time to make the changes. So, hope that helps you guys. It is literally the most important skillset you can learn as being coachable. It's not hard, you just have to do what the person says that you're going to do. It's keeping commitments, it's making keeping commitments. And I think that as a society, we have problems that we can't make. If people will make commitments, then keep commitments and like, if you want to be successful, you got to make commitments and you got to keep them. And the same thing is you got to go out there and find the people, find the people that have what you want. Give them money, that's that's a commitment you're making to them and then follow the process to a T. So, hope it helps. I'm at my son's friend's house, I'm going to pick him up right now and hope you guys have a great night. Thanks again for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, any episode, please take a screenshot on your phone, tag me and post it on social and tag me and then, if you love your life and you want to extend your life, I would highly recommend going to Amazon, worst case scenario buy Chris Wark's books on cancer. They are amazing and best case go buy his courses, dive in because he's an amazing person who's figured it out. And man, if there's only 5% of cancers are hereditary, 95%, we can be protected from by just shifting some basic things. And water fast is one of a million things, he's got a ton of things, they're not hard, they're pretty cool and they're awesome. Anyway, it's worth it to you, to your family, the ones you love so check out Chris Wark as well. And with that said, I appreciate you all and I will talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 12 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0000 What "Being Coachable" Actually Looks Like full 404 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Let me show you what life’s most important skill looks like. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets... Let me show you what life’s most important skill looks like. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast, I hope you guys are pumped today. Today, I'm going to talk to you guys about some crazy stuff I'm doing right now and I want you understand the secret behind what I think is probably the most important skillset you can possibly learn during this life and that is how to be coachable. All right, all right. So, I am... it's late night and I'm actually driving to go get my son from one of his friend's houses and I got, it's probably 10-minute drive so it's like, I would jump out and hang out with you guys while we're going. And I am at the end of day number one of a water fast. Yes, a water fast. I'm literally going to drink nothing but water for the next five days. I think some of you guys are rolling your eyes and you think I'm insane. I know this because I posted on Instagram today and I got thousands of messages coming back to me, from everybody telling me why I'm dumb, why I'm smart and about a million things in between. But that doesn't matter to me because I'm doing it for a purpose and a reason and I'll explain why here in a second. But before I do, I want to talk about what I think is one of the most, maybe not want of the, but probably the most important skillset you can learn in this life. And I don't know how I was blessed with it and I didn't even know I had it until I remember my ... it was actually my sophomore year in high school and I joined this freestyle wrestling team and the team was called Elite and I was probably the worst kid to join Elite. Somehow my dad got me in and it was all these guys who were amazing at wrestling. It was a private club for these guys and they all, "I'm sure you'll get better." I was in this group and I was having so much fun being around these guys who were amazing. I've seen them winning all these big tournaments and everything. And so, I remember going to one of our tournaments, wrestlers tournament and I don't remember exactly how, but I just remember a wrestlers match and I lost. And the coach pulled me off side and it was Greg Williams, he's now actually the Head Wrestling Coach at UVU, but he was my freestyle wrestling coach in this little club we were in. And I remember he pulled me off side he said, "Hey Russell, this is what you're doing wrong." And just like a normal coach, he walks you through to two, three or four things. I was like, "Okay." And so, I paid attention, I listened and in the next match, went through I wrestled and I did the things that he told me to do. Surprise, surprise, right? So, I did the things like I literally just ... he told me to do something so I did. And I remember the next match I won, I came off the mat, he looked at me kind of strange, I said, "What?" He said, "You're one of the most coachable athletes I've ever met." I'm like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Most kids I tell them what to do over and over and over and over and over again before it ever sticks." He's like, "I told you what to do and you went in the next match and then you just did it." And he said, "You're one of the most coachable athletes I've ever met." And I remember hearing him say that I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's so cool." And so then, became part of my identity, I'm coachable. My coach tells me something, I'm not going to be skeptical, I'm not going to talk back, I'm going to shut my mouth, I'm going to listen, I'm going to just do what he says. He's my coach, he knows more than I do so I'm going to become as coachable as humanly possible. And over the next eight years of my wrestling career, I think that's why I succeeded at high levels because I was so coachable. Same thing is true for me when I started business. I would come in and I would hire a coach or I would read a book and whatever the book said, I would just follow it, I just did the thing. And long and behold, I became successful because of it. And it's been interesting as I've been on the other side of this now and I've had a chance to coach tons of people and help people. It's interesting how few or how uncoachable most people are. They want to come back and tell you their opinion and why they think they're right and why this and why that and it's just like, "Why would you do that? You hired me to be your coach." It's like, "You literally paid me to teach you this thing and now you're fighting me." It doesn't make any sense to me. I hire somebody as a coach or someone I paid, I just I do what they say. I remember actually, I'm in the middle of my fourth book right now, which has been a fun project to start on. I'm not telling too many details about it yet but there's this one quote in here and it was actually from my friend and he wrote the article about his morning routine and it was so funny. And he's just like talking about all the things he does and how crazy they are and one of the things that he mentioned, I can't remember what it was, it was something weird. And he's like, "Why do I do that?" He's like, "Because Tony Robbins told me so." He said, "I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence." I thought it was so funny. I was like, "Yes, that's how I am. I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. I obey all people who I hire, all coaches, all people who I want to learn from, I obey them, I listen to them, I ask them their advice and then I just do the thing they said." It's the weirdest thing in the world. We recently here at ClickFunnels had a chance to meet with this dude, who's literally one of the smartest students I've ever met. And we were lucky enough he sat down for four hours, four or five hours with us and walked us through. Looking at our business like, "Hey, I would do this, I would do this," and he gives us all these things to do. And so me and Dave Woodward were just taking notes as fast as we can and all the things and just like, "Oh my gosh, this guy's amazing." I remember we got done with the day, it ended and he messaged us a couple of weeks later, two or three weeks later, he's like, "Hey, you want to jump on a call and go over the stuff again?" Like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Well, do you want to go over the stuff we talked about and figure out ways to start implementing?" Like, "No, you understand you don't know how we work. We're implementing everything you said, we literally," and we started going through the we did this, we did this, we did this," and the guy was like, "Oh my gosh," he's like, "I've never had somebody who just did what I told him to do like that before. Yeah, we're very, very coachable. We listen and then we'd do what you say." And so, that's key. So, I want to show it to you because that goes back to my water fast that I'm dealing with right now. So day number one's almost done. And the reason why I'm doing a water fast, actually there's two things. My dad was a insurance agent for State Farm Insurance. I remember that he would, obviously they sell auto insurance and health insurance and all the different, house insurance and things like that. But the one that was the hardest to sell was life insurance. And we were asking him, "Why is it so hard to sell life insurance?" And he said, "Because it's a preventative not a cure." After you get sick, you want life insurance. After you get sick… but it's hard because ahead of time you’re like, "Oh, I'm never going to be sick, I'm going to be fine." It's just like aspirin, no one wants to pre-buy aspirin but if you got a headache, you will give your right arm for some aspirin, right? It's the prevention versus a cure. People don't want to do the prevention and you see it right now, it's insane in our society. People are getting sick and all the problems and everyone will go and they want a magic cure for this thing. But nobody will go back to the root cause and like, "Hey, we're actually super unhealthy, we should change our diet and exercise." The fact that nobody on the news or on TV has mentioned that over the last 12 months is insane. Anyway, I'll get off that soap box in a minute but most people will not go for a preventative, how do you say it, preventative. You know what I'm saying? They wait for a cure though. And I'm not that way. I want to like, "What's a preventative ahead of time?" And so, one of my friends, he joined my inner circle a few years ago his name's Chris Wark and if you've heard of Chris before, he has Chrisbeatscancer.com or Chrisbeatcancer.com. And he is someone who came down he had, I think stage three cancer and ended up curing himself from it naturally without any chemotherapy and all these other things. And then, he's gone on and help hundreds of other people on this journey as well. And he's just an amazing person. He spoke at Funnel Hacking Live one or two years ago and just have so much respect for him. But he came out with the book. And so, I don't have cancer but I was like, the book came out I was like, "I'm going to read this book," and so I bought the book and I listened to it and then he had a course, I bought the course, I went to the course. I'm like, "I'm going through all this stuff because I'm like, "Man, I don't want cancer." I can go wait until I got cancer and then I got to figure this stuff out or freak out or I can be like, "Hey, I don't want cancer. Let me preventatively figure out who's the dude or the lady who's already solved this problem, who's got the framework that fixes this problem and let me figure it out?" And what's crazy and again, I'm not an expert on this at all so don't take my opinion. But if you love someone who has cancer, you should go to chrisbeatcancer.com. If you have cancer, you should. If you don't want to have cancer, once again, you should still go there, you'd be insane not to. So anyway, I'm trying to think where I left off. Anyway, so I was like, "I don't want to have cancer," so I started going through all the stuff, started listening to him, learning from it. It's like, "This is amazing." Oh yeah, I was going to tell you, he says that only 5% of cancers are hereditary, 95% are based on things like your environment, your diet, your stress levels. It's crazy. So it's like, if we know these things, why aren't we talking about these things? Why is it not on TV every single day? When he talked about the first time he went in for, I think it was him or maybe someone else, the first time he went for a cancer thing, the doctor looks at everything and then, after he got out of the thing, gave him hospital food and it's just like junk food, garbage food. It's like, we know what causes these things, why don't we focus in that? But that's not sexy, there's no money in that. There's no money like, "Hey, you should eat healthier, you should exercise, you should change your diet, you should change your environment." And so, it doesn't get the attention it needs. But anyway, so for me, I'm someone who wants to look for a preventative, it's rare. I'd say 0.1% of people in the world search for preventatives. They're always just looking for cures. They wait until something bad happens, look for a cure. I'm trying to figure out how do I protect myself today so that I don't have to worry about that? Maybe I will still have to, who knows, but if I can protect myself, I can fortify myself against that problem, I'm going to do it. So, Chris became my coach, I'm like, "He's the dude, I'm going to go through it and I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence." So for this situation, I obey Chris' work as he's cured himself of cancer, he's cured hundreds of other people like, "Okay, I obey all dudes who cured themselves of cancer when they tell me how to prevent myself from having cancer." So, I just listened to what he said, did it and I'm going through it. So, part of it is this five-day water fast. And it's interesting he talked about how your cells in your body, how there's cells that are weak, there's cells that are dead, there's cells are cancerous, all these sorts of stuff like that. He said, "In your immune system the same way," there's these weaker cells, I'm probably messing up, if Chris is listening to this he's probably rolling his eyes, but you should go buy all his stuff because he'll explain it way better than me. But basically, what happens is when you do a water fast, your body literally starts eating itself because it's like, "I need food or anything," it just starts eating yourself. We know that, that's how you lose weight. Your body starts eating the fat cells or whatever. But in this case, the cells that die, they go the first are the weakest ones. I think one of the analogy is someone shared with me, it might've been him he was like, "If you're out in a forest and there's all these pine needles and pine cones, all the stuff they do controlled burns like the light, those things on fires, it burns all that stuff, it doesn't catch the fields on fire but kills all the dead stuff underneath, that way you don't have problems in the future." It's the same thing here where you do these water fast and your body literally will eat all of these cancer cells and disease and all sorts of stuff. And so, I started learning about that, I got excited, JLD if you guys know John Lee Dumas from Entrepreneurs on Fire, he told me about another book that I read about water fasting and stuff like that. And so I'm like, "I'm all in, let's do this thing." And so, I started day number one of water fasting because I want to kill off these dead cells, I want to protect myself or I want to make myself stronger and heal myself. And so, I'm excited. And if someone who is insanely healthy and in great shape and not having any issues, but man, I don't want to have issues. And so, that's why I'm doing these things now. I think Chris said that he does his water fast once a quarter so I'm probably trying to figure out some way to incorporate that more often on top of a lot of the shifts in my diet that I've made because of listening to Chris and other geniuses. So anyway, I'm telling you this, because number one, I want to tell you that I practice what I preach. I am as coachable as they come, I try my best. I try to listen to what they say, my coaches say, even if I don't have the problem, if I want to protect myself from the future problem, I listen. And so for you, in all aspects of your life, be coachable. Be coachable in business, be coachable in sports, be coachable in health, find coaches, ask, you hire then pay them. Find someone who has already accomplished the thing that you want and then pay them, ask them for advice, get their framework and then go and just do it. And don't question it, don't try to be smarter. Just like, "All right, I may have heard this in the past, I don't care. But at this point in time, I'm giving you my money. Therefore, I will do anything you say. I'm not going to fight you, I'm not going to talk you back, I'm just going to do the thing you say." And then, don't do what most people do like, "Okay, cool," and listen and not do anything, just do it. When I say instantly execute on it, don't wait a day, a week, a month, a year. Now is the time. You gave him the money, now it's time to make the changes. So, hope that helps you guys. It is literally the most important skillset you can learn as being coachable. It's not hard, you just have to do what the person says that you're going to do. It's keeping commitments, it's making keeping commitments. And I think that as a society, we have problems that we can't make. If people will make commitments, then keep commitments and like, if you want to be successful, you got to make commitments and you got to keep them. And the same thing is you got to go out there and find the people, find the people that have what you want. Give them money, that's that's a commitment you're making to them and then follow the process to a T. So, hope it helps. I'm at my son's friend's house, I'm going to pick him up right now and hope you guys have a great night. Thanks again for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, any episode, please take a screenshot on your phone, tag me and post it on social and tag me and then, if you love your life and you want to extend your life, I would highly recommend going to Amazon, worst case scenario buy Chris Wark's books on cancer. They are amazing and best case go buy his courses, dive in because he's an amazing person who's figured it out. And man, if there's only 5% of cancers are hereditary, 95%, we can be protected from by just shifting some basic things. And water fast is one of a million things, he's got a ton of things, they're not hard, they're pretty cool and they're awesome. Anyway, it's worth it to you, to your family, the ones you love so check out Chris Wark as well. And with that said, I appreciate you all and I will talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Let me show you what life’s most important skill looks like.

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What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast, I hope you guys are pumped today. Today, I'm going to talk to you guys about some crazy stuff I'm doing right now and I want you understand the secret behind what I think is probably the most important skillset you can possibly learn during this life and that is how to be coachable. All right, all right. So, I am... it's late night and I'm actually driving to go get my son from one of his friend's houses and I got, it's probably 10-minute drive so it's like, I would jump out and hang out with you guys while we're going.

And I am at the end of day number one of a water fast. Yes, a water fast. I'm literally going to drink nothing but water for the next five days. I think some of you guys are rolling your eyes and you think I'm insane. I know this because I posted on Instagram today and I got thousands of messages coming back to me, from everybody telling me why I'm dumb, why I'm smart and about a million things in between.

But that doesn't matter to me because I'm doing it for a purpose and a reason and I'll explain why here in a second. But before I do, I want to talk about what I think is one of the most, maybe not want of the, but probably the most important skillset you can learn in this life. And I don't know how I was blessed with it and I didn't even know I had it until I remember my ... it was actually my sophomore year in high school and I joined this freestyle wrestling team and the team was called Elite and I was probably the worst kid to join Elite.

Somehow my dad got me in and it was all these guys who were amazing at wrestling. It was a private club for these guys and they all, "I'm sure you'll get better." I was in this group and I was having so much fun being around these guys who were amazing. I've seen them winning all these big tournaments and everything. And so, I remember going to one of our tournaments, wrestlers tournament and I don't remember exactly how, but I just remember a wrestlers match and I lost.

And the coach pulled me off side and it was Greg Williams, he's now actually the Head Wrestling Coach at UVU, but he was my freestyle wrestling coach in this little club we were in. And I remember he pulled me off side he said, "Hey Russell, this is what you're doing wrong." And just like a normal coach, he walks you through to two, three or four things. I was like, "Okay." And so, I paid attention, I listened and in the next match, went through I wrestled and I did the things that he told me to do. Surprise, surprise, right?

So, I did the things like I literally just ... he told me to do something so I did. And I remember the next match I won, I came off the mat, he looked at me kind of strange, I said, "What?" He said, "You're one of the most coachable athletes I've ever met." I'm like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Most kids I tell them what to do over and over and over and over and over again before it ever sticks." He's like, "I told you what to do and you went in the next match and then you just did it." And he said, "You're one of the most coachable athletes I've ever met."

And I remember hearing him say that I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's so cool." And so then, became part of my identity, I'm coachable. My coach tells me something, I'm not going to be skeptical, I'm not going to talk back, I'm going to shut my mouth, I'm going to listen, I'm going to just do what he says. He's my coach, he knows more than I do so I'm going to become as coachable as humanly possible.

And over the next eight years of my wrestling career, I think that's why I succeeded at high levels because I was so coachable. Same thing is true for me when I started business. I would come in and I would hire a coach or I would read a book and whatever the book said, I would just follow it, I just did the thing. And long and behold, I became successful because of it. And it's been interesting as I've been on the other side of this now and I've had a chance to coach tons of people and help people.

It's interesting how few or how uncoachable most people are. They want to come back and tell you their opinion and why they think they're right and why this and why that and it's just like, "Why would you do that? You hired me to be your coach." It's like, "You literally paid me to teach you this thing and now you're fighting me." It doesn't make any sense to me. I hire somebody as a coach or someone I paid, I just I do what they say.

I remember actually, I'm in the middle of my fourth book right now, which has been a fun project to start on. I'm not telling too many details about it yet but there's this one quote in here and it was actually from my friend and he wrote the article about his morning routine and it was so funny. And he's just like talking about all the things he does and how crazy they are and one of the things that he mentioned, I can't remember what it was, it was something weird.

And he's like, "Why do I do that?" He's like, "Because Tony Robbins told me so." He said, "I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence." I thought it was so funny. I was like, "Yes, that's how I am. I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. I obey all people who I hire, all coaches, all people who I want to learn from, I obey them, I listen to them, I ask them their advice and then I just do the thing they said." It's the weirdest thing in the world.

We recently here at ClickFunnels had a chance to meet with this dude, who's literally one of the smartest students I've ever met. And we were lucky enough he sat down for four hours, four or five hours with us and walked us through. Looking at our business like, "Hey, I would do this, I would do this," and he gives us all these things to do. And so me and Dave Woodward were just taking notes as fast as we can and all the things and just like, "Oh my gosh, this guy's amazing."

I remember we got done with the day, it ended and he messaged us a couple of weeks later, two or three weeks later, he's like, "Hey, you want to jump on a call and go over the stuff again?" Like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Well, do you want to go over the stuff we talked about and figure out ways to start implementing?" Like, "No, you understand you don't know how we work. We're implementing everything you said, we literally," and we started going through the we did this, we did this, we did this," and the guy was like, "Oh my gosh," he's like, "I've never had somebody who just did what I told him to do like that before. Yeah, we're very, very coachable. We listen and then we'd do what you say."

And so, that's key. So, I want to show it to you because that goes back to my water fast that I'm dealing with right now. So day number one's almost done. And the reason why I'm doing a water fast, actually there's two things. My dad was a insurance agent for State Farm Insurance. I remember that he would, obviously they sell auto insurance and health insurance and all the different, house insurance and things like that. But the one that was the hardest to sell was life insurance.

And we were asking him, "Why is it so hard to sell life insurance?" And he said, "Because it's a preventative not a cure." After you get sick, you want life insurance. After you get sick… but it's hard because ahead of time you’re like, "Oh, I'm never going to be sick, I'm going to be fine." It's just like aspirin, no one wants to pre-buy aspirin but if you got a headache, you will give your right arm for some aspirin, right?

It's the prevention versus a cure. People don't want to do the prevention and you see it right now, it's insane in our society. People are getting sick and all the problems and everyone will go and they want a magic cure for this thing. But nobody will go back to the root cause and like, "Hey, we're actually super unhealthy, we should change our diet and exercise." The fact that nobody on the news or on TV has mentioned that over the last 12 months is insane.

Anyway, I'll get off that soap box in a minute but most people will not go for a preventative, how do you say it, preventative. You know what I'm saying? They wait for a cure though. And I'm not that way. I want to like, "What's a preventative ahead of time?" And so, one of my friends, he joined my inner circle a few years ago his name's Chris Wark and if you've heard of Chris before, he has Chrisbeatscancer.com or Chrisbeatcancer.com. And he is someone who came down he had, I think stage three cancer and ended up curing himself from it naturally without any chemotherapy and all these other things.

And then, he's gone on and help hundreds of other people on this journey as well. And he's just an amazing person. He spoke at Funnel Hacking Live one or two years ago and just have so much respect for him. But he came out with the book. And so, I don't have cancer but I was like, the book came out I was like, "I'm going to read this book," and so I bought the book and I listened to it and then he had a course, I bought the course, I went to the course.

I'm like, "I'm going through all this stuff because I'm like, "Man, I don't want cancer." I can go wait until I got cancer and then I got to figure this stuff out or freak out or I can be like, "Hey, I don't want cancer. Let me preventatively figure out who's the dude or the lady who's already solved this problem, who's got the framework that fixes this problem and let me figure it out?" And what's crazy and again, I'm not an expert on this at all so don't take my opinion. But if you love someone who has cancer, you should go to chrisbeatcancer.com.

If you have cancer, you should. If you don't want to have cancer, once again, you should still go there, you'd be insane not to. So anyway, I'm trying to think where I left off. Anyway, so I was like, "I don't want to have cancer," so I started going through all the stuff, started listening to him, learning from it. It's like, "This is amazing." Oh yeah, I was going to tell you, he says that only 5% of cancers are hereditary, 95% are based on things like your environment, your diet, your stress levels. It's crazy.

So it's like, if we know these things, why aren't we talking about these things? Why is it not on TV every single day? When he talked about the first time he went in for, I think it was him or maybe someone else, the first time he went for a cancer thing, the doctor looks at everything and then, after he got out of the thing, gave him hospital food and it's just like junk food, garbage food. It's like, we know what causes these things, why don't we focus in that? But that's not sexy, there's no money in that. There's no money like, "Hey, you should eat healthier, you should exercise, you should change your diet, you should change your environment."

And so, it doesn't get the attention it needs. But anyway, so for me, I'm someone who wants to look for a preventative, it's rare. I'd say 0.1% of people in the world search for preventatives. They're always just looking for cures. They wait until something bad happens, look for a cure. I'm trying to figure out how do I protect myself today so that I don't have to worry about that? Maybe I will still have to, who knows, but if I can protect myself, I can fortify myself against that problem, I'm going to do it.

So, Chris became my coach, I'm like, "He's the dude, I'm going to go through it and I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence." So for this situation, I obey Chris' work as he's cured himself of cancer, he's cured hundreds of other people like, "Okay, I obey all dudes who cured themselves of cancer when they tell me how to prevent myself from having cancer." So, I just listened to what he said, did it and I'm going through it. So, part of it is this five-day water fast. And it's interesting he talked about how your cells in your body, how there's cells that are weak, there's cells that are dead, there's cells are cancerous, all these sorts of stuff like that.

He said, "In your immune system the same way," there's these weaker cells, I'm probably messing up, if Chris is listening to this he's probably rolling his eyes, but you should go buy all his stuff because he'll explain it way better than me. But basically, what happens is when you do a water fast, your body literally starts eating itself because it's like, "I need food or anything," it just starts eating yourself. We know that, that's how you lose weight. Your body starts eating the fat cells or whatever.

But in this case, the cells that die, they go the first are the weakest ones. I think one of the analogy is someone shared with me, it might've been him he was like, "If you're out in a forest and there's all these pine needles and pine cones, all the stuff they do controlled burns like the light, those things on fires, it burns all that stuff, it doesn't catch the fields on fire but kills all the dead stuff underneath, that way you don't have problems in the future."

It's the same thing here where you do these water fast and your body literally will eat all of these cancer cells and disease and all sorts of stuff. And so, I started learning about that, I got excited, JLD if you guys know John Lee Dumas from Entrepreneurs on Fire, he told me about another book that I read about water fasting and stuff like that. And so I'm like, "I'm all in, let's do this thing." And so, I started day number one of water fasting because I want to kill off these dead cells, I want to protect myself or I want to make myself stronger and heal myself. And so, I'm excited.

And if someone who is insanely healthy and in great shape and not having any issues, but man, I don't want to have issues. And so, that's why I'm doing these things now. I think Chris said that he does his water fast once a quarter so I'm probably trying to figure out some way to incorporate that more often on top of a lot of the shifts in my diet that I've made because of listening to Chris and other geniuses. So anyway, I'm telling you this, because number one, I want to tell you that I practice what I preach. I am as coachable as they come, I try my best. I try to listen to what they say, my coaches say, even if I don't have the problem, if I want to protect myself from the future problem, I listen.

And so for you, in all aspects of your life, be coachable. Be coachable in business, be coachable in sports, be coachable in health, find coaches, ask, you hire then pay them. Find someone who has already accomplished the thing that you want and then pay them, ask them for advice, get their framework and then go and just do it. And don't question it, don't try to be smarter. Just like, "All right, I may have heard this in the past, I don't care. But at this point in time, I'm giving you my money. Therefore, I will do anything you say. I'm not going to fight you, I'm not going to talk you back, I'm just going to do the thing you say."

And then, don't do what most people do like, "Okay, cool," and listen and not do anything, just do it. When I say instantly execute on it, don't wait a day, a week, a month, a year. Now is the time. You gave him the money, now it's time to make the changes. So, hope that helps you guys. It is literally the most important skillset you can learn as being coachable. It's not hard, you just have to do what the person says that you're going to do. It's keeping commitments, it's making keeping commitments.

And I think that as a society, we have problems that we can't make. If people will make commitments, then keep commitments and like, if you want to be successful, you got to make commitments and you got to keep them. And the same thing is you got to go out there and find the people, find the people that have what you want. Give them money, that's that's a commitment you're making to them and then follow the process to a T. So, hope it helps. I'm at my son's friend's house, I'm going to pick him up right now and hope you guys have a great night.

Thanks again for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, any episode, please take a screenshot on your phone, tag me and post it on social and tag me and then, if you love your life and you want to extend your life, I would highly recommend going to Amazon, worst case scenario buy Chris Wark's books on cancer. They are amazing and best case go buy his courses, dive in because he's an amazing person who's figured it out. And man, if there's only 5% of cancers are hereditary, 95%, we can be protected from by just shifting some basic things.

And water fast is one of a million things, he's got a ton of things, they're not hard, they're pretty cool and they're awesome. Anyway, it's worth it to you, to your family, the ones you love so check out Chris Wark as well. And with that said, I appreciate you all and I will talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 973 no My Conversation With The Friendly Giant - Part 2 of 2 (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-2-of-2-revisited Here is the conclusion of the special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, welcome to Marketing Secrets podcast. I’m so excited, I’m here on stage right now at the Two Comma Club X event with Mr. Nic Fitzgerald onstage. A year ago I gave a podcast to him about how to make it rain and this is section number two. Now those of you who don’t know, in the last 12 months since I did that podcast he’s been making it rain and he’s been changing his life, his family’s lives, but more importantly, other people’s lives as well. And it’s been really cool, so that’s what we’re going to cover today during this episode of the podcast. So welcome back you guys. I’m here on stage with Nic Fitzgerald, so excited. So I made a list of seven things that if I was to sit in a room with him in front of a whole bunch of people I’d be like, “Hey Nic, you’re doing awesome, but here’s some things to look at that I think will help you a lot with what you’re doing.” So number one, when Nic first kind of started into this movement that he’s trying to create, I don’t know when it was, if you created this before or after. When did you create the Star Wars video? Nic: This was, we talked in July, it was September/October. So a few months later. Russell: How many of you guys have seen his Star Wars video? Okay, I’m so glad. For those who are listening, about 10% of the room raised their hand, the other 90% who are friends and followers and fans of Nic have never seen the Star Wars video. His Star Wars video is his origin story and it is one of the best videos I have ever, by far the best video I’ve seen him do, it is insanely good. It comes, do you want to talk about what happened in the video? It’s insanely good. Nic: So I told the story of, I’m a huge Star Wars nerd, so if you didn’t know that, now you do. When I was young my grandma who lived in the same neighborhood as me, she took me to go see Return of the Jedi in the movie theater and I was such a Star Wars nerd, even at a young age, that when I was playing at the neighbors house, and you know, it’s the 80s, so mom and dad are like, “Nic, come home for dinner.” That kind of thing, I would ignore them. I would not come home until they called me “Luke”. No lie. I would make them call me Luke, or I would ignore them. I would not hear them. Russell: Had I known this in high school I would have teased him relentlessly. Nic: So my grandma took me and I remember going and it was so fun because we took the bus, it was just a fun thing. And we went and I just remember walking in and handing my ticket to the ticket person. And then popcorn and just the smells of everything. And again, this is the 80s so walking in the movie theater; I almost lost a shoe in the sticky soda, {sound effects} going on. I just remember how my feet stuck to the floor and all that stuff. And then just being so excited to see my heroes on the big screen and Dark Vader, I just remember watching it. This is such a silly thing to get emotional about, but you know I remember the emperor and Darth Vader dying and all that stuff. It was just like, ah. It was a perfect day. Sorry sound dude. But it was just a perfect day with my grandma who has always been dear to me. So the purpose of that video, I’d put it off for a long time. I knew I needed to tell my own story if I’m going to be helping somebody else tell theirs. And I put it off for a long time, because working through things, I was afraid that if it sucked, if the story was terrible, if the visuals were crappy, that was a reflection on me and my skills. I had worked on a bazillion Hallmark Christmas movies, you know how they put out like 17 trillion Christmas movies every year, if one of those sucks, no offense, they’re not riveting television. Russell: They all suck. Nic: That wasn’t a reflection on me, I was just doing the lighting or the camera work. I didn’t write the story, it wasn’t my story. But this was me, so I put it off for a long time because I knew if I didn’t execute how I envisioned it, that it would reflect poorly on me, and it would be like I was a fraud. So the purpose of the video, there were three purposes. One to tell a story and get people to connect with me on a personal level. As I told that story here, how many of you remembered your feet sticking to the floor of a movie theater? How many of you, when I talk about the smell of popcorn and that sound, you felt and heard and smelled that. So it was one thing, I wanted people to connect with me and just see that I was just like you. Then I wanted to show that I could make a pretty picture. So I had that and I used my family members as the actors. And then I went and talked about how…and then I wanted to use it to build credibility. I’ve worked on 13 feature films and two television series and shot news for the NBC affiliate and worked in tons of commercials. So I’ve learned from master story tellers and now I want to help other people find and tell their story. And then I showed clips of stories that I tell throughout the years. So that was, I just remember specifically when I finally went and made it live, I made a list of about 20 people, my Dream 100 I guess you could say. I just wanted to send them and be like, “Hey, I made this video. I would love for you to watch it.” And Russell’s on that list. So I sent that out and made it live and then it was just kind of funny, it didn’t go viral, I got like 5000 views in a day, and it was like “whoa!” kind of thing. But it was just one of those things that I knew I needed to tell my story and if I wanted to have any credibility as a story teller, not as a videographer, but as a story teller, being able to help people connect, and connect hearts and build relationships with their audience, I had to knock it out of the park. So that was my attempt at doing that. Russell: And the video’s amazing, for the 10% of the room who saw it, it is amazing. Now my point here for Nic, but also for everyone here, I wrote down, is tell your story too much. Only 10% of the room has ever seen that video or ever heard it. How many of you guys have heard my potato gun story more than a dozen times? Almost the entire room, for those that are listening. Tell your story to the point where you are so sick and tired of telling the story and hearing it, that you just want to kill yourself, and then tell it again. And then tell it again. And then tell it again, because it is amazing. The video is amazing, the story is amazing. How many of you guys feel more connected to him after hearing that story right now? It’s amazing. Tell t he story too much. All of us are going to be like, “I don’t want to hear the story. I don’t want to tell the story again.” You should be telling that story over and over and over again. That video should be showing it. At least once a week you should be following everyone, retargeting ads of that video. That video should be, everyone should see it. You’ve got 5,000 views which is amazing, you should get 5,000 views a day, consistently telling that story, telling that story. Because you’re right, it’s beautiful, it’s amazing and people see that and they’re like, “Oh my gosh, I need that for my business. I need to be able to tell my story the way he told that story, because the connection is flawless.” And I think my biggest thing for you right now, is tell your story more. Tell that thing. You’re telling good stories, but that story, that’s like your linchpin, that’s the thing that if you can tell that, it’s going to keep people connected to you for forever. Anyone who’s seen that video, you have a different level of connection. It’s amazing, it’s shot beautifully. You see his kids looking at the movies, with lights flashing, it’s beautiful. So telling your story more, that’d be the biggest thing. It’s just like, all the time telling that story over and over and over again. That’s number one. Alright, number two, this one’s not so much for you as much for most of everybody else in here, but number two is that energy matters a lot. I’m not talking about, I’m tired during the day. I’m talking about when you are live, or you are talking in front of people, your energy matters a lot. I was hanging out with Dana Derricks, how many of you guys know Dana, our resident goat farmer? By the way, he’s asked every time I mention his name is please not send him anymore goats. He’s gotten like 2 or 3 goats in the last month from all of our friends and family members here in the community. Please stop sending him goats. He loves them but he doesn’t want any more. Anyway, what’s interesting, I was talking to Dana, and he’s like, “Do you know the biggest thing I’ve learned from you?” and I’m like, “No. what?” and I thought it was going to be like dream 100 and things like that. No, the biggest thing that Dana learned from me, he told me, was that energy matters a lot. He’s like, “When I hang out with you, you’re kind of like blah, but when you get on stage you’re like, baaahh!” and I started telling him, the reason why is when I first started this career, in fact, I have my brother right now pulling all the video clips of me from like 12 or 13 years ago, when I had a shaved head and I was awkward like, “Hi, my name is Russell Brunson.” And we’re trying to make this montage of me over 15 years of doing this and how awkward and weird I was, and how it took 8-10 years until I was normal and started growing my hair out. But I’m trying to show that whole montage, but if you look at it like, I was going through that process and the biggest thing I learned is that if I talked to people like this, when you’re on video you sound like this. The very first, I think I’d have an idea and then I’d just do stupid things. So I saw an infomercial, so I’m like I should do an infomercial. So I hired this company to make an infomercial and next thing I know two weeks later I’m in Florida and there’s this host on this show and he’s like the cheesiest cheese ball ever. I’m so embarrassed. He asked me a question and I’m like, “Well, um, you know, duh, duh…” and he’s like, “Whoa, cut, cut, cut.” He’s like, “Dude, holy crap. You have no energy.” I’m like, “No, I feel really good. I have a lot of energy right now.” He’s like, “No, no you don’t understand. When you’re on tv, you have to talk like this to sound normal. If you just talk normal, you sound like you’re asleep.” I’m like, “I don’t know.” So we did this whole infomercial and he’s like all over the top and I’m just like, trying to go a little bit higher and it was awkward. I went back and watched it later, and he sounded completely normal and I looked like I was dead on the road. It was weird. Brandon Fischer, I don’t know if he’s still in the audience, but we did…Brandon’s back here. So four years ago when Clickfunnels first came out we made these videos that when you first signed up we gave away a free t-shirt. How many of you guys remember seeing those videos? I made those videos and then they lasted for like four years, and then we just reshot them last week because it’s like, “Oh wow, the demo video when we’re showing CLickfunnels does not look like Clickfunnels anymore. It’s completely changed in four years.” So Todd’s like, “You have to make a new video.” I’m like, “I don’t want to make a video.’ So finally we made the new videos, recorded them and got them up there and we posted them online, and before we posted them on, I went and watched the old ones, and I watched the old ones and I was like, “Oh my gosh, this is just four years ago, I am so depressing. How did anybody watch this video?” It was bad, right Brandon. It was like painfully bad. I was like, “oh my gosh.” That was just four years ago. Imagine six years ago, or ten years. It was really, really bad. And when I notice the more energy you have, the more energy everyone else has. It seems weird at first, but always stretch more than you feel comfortable, and it seems normal, and then you’ll feel better with it and better with it. But what’s interesting about humans is we are attracted to energy. I used to hate people talking energy talk, because I thought it was like the nerdy woo-woo crap. But it’s so weird and real actually. I notice this in all aspects of my life. When I come home at night, usually I am beat up and tired and worn out. I get up early in the morning, and then I work super hard, I get home and I get out of the car and I come to the door and before I open the door, I’m always like, Okay if I come in like, ugh, my whole family is going to be depressed with me.” They’ll all lower to my energy level. So I sit there and I get into state and I’m like, okay, whew. I open the door and I’m like, “What’s up guys!! I’m home!” and all the sudden my kids are like, “Oh dad’s home!” and they start running in, it’s this huge thing, it’s crazy, and then the tone is set, everyone’s energy is high and the rest of the night’s amazing. When I come in the office, I walk in and realize I’m the leader of this office and if I come in like, “Hey guys, what’s up? Hey Nic, what’s up?” Then everyone’s going to be like {sound effect}. So I’m like, okay when I come in I have to come in here, otherwise everyone is going to be down on a normal level. I have to bring people up. So we walk in the office now and I’m like, “What’s up everybody, how’s it going?” and I’m excited and they’re like, “Oh.” And everyone’s energy rises and the whole company grows together. So l love when Dave walks through the door, have you guys ever noticed this? When Dave walks through the door, I’m at a 10, Dave’s like at a 32 and it’s just like, he wakes up and comes over to my  house at 4:30 in the morning to lift weights. I sleep in an hour later, and I come in at 5:45 or something, and I walk in and I’m just like, “I want to die.” And I walk in and he’s like, “Hey how’s it going?.” I’m like, “Really good man. You’ve been here for an hour.” And all the sudden I’m like, oh my gosh I feel better. Instantly raised up. It’s kind of like tuning forks. Have you noticed this? If you get two tuning forks at different things and you wack one, and you wack the other one, and you bring them close together, what will happen is the waves will increase and they end up going at the exact same level. So energy matters. The higher your energy, the higher everyone else around you will be, on video, on audio, on face…everything, energy matters a lot. So that’s number two, when you’re making videos, thinking about that. Alright number three, okay this, you were like 90% there and I watched the whole thing and I was so excited and then you missed the last piece and I was like, “Oh it was so good.” So a year after that Facebook message came, you did a Facebook live one year later to the day, and he told that story on Facebook live. And I was like, “Oh my gosh this is amazing.” And he told that story, and he was talking about it, and I was emotional, going through the whole thing again. This is so cool, this is so cool. And he told the story about the podcast, and this podcast was an hour long, and the thing and his life changed and all this stuff… And I know that me and a whole bunch of you guys, a whole bunch of entrepreneurs listened to this story and they’re at bated breath, “This is amazing, this is amazing.” And he gets to the very end, “Alright guys, see you tomorrow.” Boom, clicks off. And I was like, “Aaahhh!” How can you leave me in that state?  I need something, I need something. So the note here is I said, make offers for everything. Think about this, at the end when you ended, and everyone’s thinking, I want to hear that episode, where is that? How would it be? Now imagine you take the opportunity at the very end that says, “How many of you guys would like to hear that episode where Russell actually made me a personal podcast? And how many of you guys would actually like if I gave you my commentary about what  I learned and why it was actually important to me? All you gotta do right now is post down below and write ‘I’m in.’ and I’ll add you to my messenger list and I’ll send you that podcast along with the recording where I actually told you what this meant to me.” Boom, now all those people listening are now on his list. Or they can even go opt in somewhere. But all you did was tell the story and everything and we were all sitting with bated breath and I was just like, at the end make the offer. You guys want the stuff I talked about, you want the thing? You want the thing? And then you send them somewhere and now you captured them and consider them longer term and you can do more things with them. It was like, hook, story, dude where’s my offer? Give me something. But it was awesome. How many of you guys felt that way when you listened to that thing and you’re just like, “I don’t even know where to find that episode. Russell’s got eight thousand episodes everywhere, I don’t even know where to look for it.” You could have been like, here’s the link. Just the link….if you guys can’t figure out how to make an offer, go listen to a whole bunch of stuff, find something amazing and be like, “oh my gosh you guys, I was listening to this Tim Ferris podcast, he did like 800 episodes, every one is like 18 hours long, they’re really hard to listen to, but I found this one from 3 ½-4 years ago where he taught this concept and it was insane. It was amazing; I learned this and this. How many of you want to know what that is? Okay, I have the link, if you message me down below I’ll send you the link to exactly where to find that episode.” Everyone will give it to you.  You’ll be like, “But it’s free on the internet Russell.” It doesn’t matter. You know where it’s at and they don’t. They will give you their contact information in exchange for you giving them a direct link to the link. Back before I had anything to give away for opt ins, guess what I used to do. I used to go to YouTube and I would find cool videos from famous people. One of my favorite ones we did was I went and typed in YouTube, “Robert Kiyosaki” because he was one of my big mentors at the time. And there was all these amazing Robert Kiyosaki videos on YouTube for free. Tons of them. Hour long training from Robert Kiyosaki. Four hour long event from Robert Kiyosaki. All this stuff for free listed in YouTube. So I made a little Clickfunnels membership site, I got all the free videos and put them inside a members area and just like, “Tab one, Robert Kiyosaki talking about investing, Robert Kiyosaki talking about stocks, Robert Kiyosaki talking….”  And I just put all the videos in there and made a squeeze page like, “Hey, who wants a whole bunch of free, my favorite Robert Kiyosaki videos?” and I made a little landing page, people opt in, I give them access to the membership site, and then I went and targeted Robert Kiyosaki’s audience and built a huge list off his people. Dream 100. Imagine with Dream 100 instead of doing just one campaign to all the people, if each person in your dream 100 you made a customized membership site with the free content right now, be like, “Hey, you’ve listened to a lot of Grant Cardone, he’s got four podcasts, 5000 episodes, there’s only four that are actually really, really good. Do you guys want to know what they are? Opt in here, I’ll give you the four best episodes of all. I currated all these for you to give you the four best.” And target Grant’s audience with that, now you got all his buyers coming into your world. Is that alright, is that good. Alright number four ties along with this. Number four, start building a list ASAP. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you do a call to action to get a list anywhere, have I? After today’s session you’re …..just build a list. If you got nothing from this event at all, every time you do a hook and story, put them somewhere to build a list, because that’s the longevity. Because that’s where if Zuckerberg snaps his finger and you lose all your fans and followings and friends, and all the sudden you’re trying to build over somewhere else, it won’t matter because you’ll have those people somewhere external and now you can message them and bring them back into whatever world you need them to be at. But that’s how you build stability in business. It’s also how you sell this time, you want to sell it the next time and the next time, the list is the key. Funnel Hacking Live, the first Funnel Hacking Live it was a lot of work and we sold out 600 people in the room, and we kept growing the list and growing the list, the next year we did 1200. Then we did 1500, last year was 3000, this year we’re going to be at 5000. We’re building up the list and building up pressure and excitement and then when you release it, it gives you the ability to blow things up really, really fast.  Okay, that was number four. Okay number five, I wrote down integration marketing, adding to other’s offers to build a buyer list. So this is a little sneaky tactic we used to back in the day when I didn’t have my own list, but I had a couple of skills and talents which you do happen to have, which is nice. If you have no skills this won’t work, but if you have skills you’re lucky. So Frank Kern used to do this as well. Frank is sneaky. He used to do this all the time and I saw him doing it and I’m like, “Oh my gosh, he’s brilliant.” So Frank did a one hour presentation somewhere and he called it Mind Control, it wasn’t Mass Control, but it was something like about how to control the minds of your prospects through manipulation and something sneaky. And the title alone was amazing. It was a one hour presentation he gave somewhere. And he put it on these DVDs and what he did, he went to like Dan Kennedy and he’s like, “Hey Dan, you have all of your buyer and you send them this newsletter every single month,” at the time they had 13000 active members, these were their best buyers. He’s like, “This DVD I sell for like a thousand bucks. Do you want to give it to all your people for free?” And Dan’s like, “sure.” And all the sudden the next month, Franks got his best CD with his best stuff in the mailbox of the 13000 best customers, every single person that Dan Kennedy’s been collecting for the last 15 years. So think about this. With your skill set, look at the other people in the market, all the dream 100 who are doing things and how do you create something you can plug into their offers, and every single time one of those people sell a product, your face is popping up as well. It’s called integration marketing, my first mentor Mark Joyner wrote a book called Integration Marketing, it’s a really fast read. You can read it in an hour, but it will get your mind set thinking about it. How can I integrate with what other people are always doing? Because I can go and make a sell, and make another sell, but I was like, when we launched Clickfunnels I was like, “How can I figure out other people’s sales processes that are already happening and somehow inject myself into all these other sales processes?” That way every single time Steven Larsen sells something or someone else sells something, or all these people are selling something, it always somehow gets flown back to me. I want every product, every course, everything happening in the internet marketing world to somehow have people saying my name. That’s my goal. How many of you guy have been to other people’s events and I’m not there and they say my name? It makes me so happy. I get the instagrams from some of you guys, “Hey so and so just said your name.” I’m like, that’s so good. How have I done that? I spent a lot of my life integrating into everybody’s offers. Initially when I first got started, every single person who had a product, I was an interview in everyone’s product. I was like, looking at people launching a product, specific product launches coming, I’d contact them. Product launch is coming up, “Hey man, is there any way I could do a cool thing for your people? I could create this and give it to you and you could plug it into your product?” and everyone’s like, ‘Sure, that’d be awesome.” And all the sudden, boom, they get 5000 new buyers came in and every single one of them got my thing. They’re hearing my name, hearing my voice and it’s just constant integration. I think about how I met Joe Vitale, I talked about that earlier with the greatest showman. He was in an interview in a course I bought from Mark Joyner, I listened to it, fell in love with Joe Vitale, bought his stuff, given him tons of money over the years, a whole bunch of good stuff because he was integrated in that. So looking at other ways to integrate, the skill set that you already have into other people’s marketing channels because then you’re leveraging anytime any of these partners make a sell, you’re getting customers coming through that flow as well. Cool? Nic: Yeah. Russell: That was number five. Number six, I call this one rainmaker projects, because we talked about rainmaker during the first podcast interview. So rainmaker projects are, and again when I first started my career I did tons of these, where it’s like, I was really good at one piece. For you, you’re really good at video and story telling. And I look out here and be like, okay who is someone else here that is awesome? So and so is really good at making a product on Facebook ads. “You’re really good at Facebook ads, so I’ll do the video for this course, you do the Facebook, you do the actual ads for us.” And then, you’re awesome at doing the traffic and you bring in four or five people, like this little avenger team, and you create a cobranded product together and you launch it and everyone makes a bunch of money, split all the money, 50/50/50/50, that makes more than 100,but you know what I’m talking about, everyone splits the money, everyone splits the customer list and all the sudden you’ve all pulled your efforts, your energy, your talents together and everyone leaves with some cash, and you also leave with the customer list, and that’s when you start growing really, really rapidly. When I started I didn’t have a customer list, I had a very small one. But I had a couple of skill sets so that’s why I did tons of these things. That’s like, if you guys know any of my old friends like Mike Filsaime, Gary Ambrose, I could list off all the old partners we had back in the day, and that’s what we did all the time, these little rainmaker projects. We didn’t call them that back in the day, but that’s what it was. It was just like, we all knew what our skill sets were, and it’s like, let’s come together, let’s make a project. This isn’t going to be how we change the world, it’s not going to be something we’re going to scale and grow, but it’s like, it’s going to be a project, we put it together, we launch it, make some money, get some customers, get our name out in the market, and then we step away from it and then we all go back to our own businesses. It’s not like, that’s why it’s funny because a lot of times people are scared of these. Like, “Well, how do we set up the business structure? Who’s going to be the owner? Who’s the boss?” No, none of that. This is an in and out project where all the rainmakers come together and you create something amazing for a short period of time, you split the money and you go back home with the money and the customers. But it gave you a bump in status, a big bump in customer lists, a big bump in cash and then all those things kind of rise and if you do enough of those your status keeps growing and growing and growing, and it’s a really fast easy way to continue to grow. How many of you guys want to do a rainmaker project with Nic right now? Alright, very, very cool. Alright, and then I got one last, this is number seven. This kind of ties back to dream 100. The last thing I talked about was, and again this is kind of for everyone in the group, is the levels of the dream 100. I remember when I first started this process, I first got the concept and I didn’t know it was the dream 100 back then, but I was looking at all the different people that would have been on my dream 100 list. It was Mark Joyner, Joe Vitale, all these people that for me were top tier. Tony Robbins, Richard Branson, and I was like, oh, and I started trying to figure out how to get in those spots. And the more I tried, it was so hard to get through the gatekeeper, it was impossible to get through all these gatekeepers, these people. I was like, “Man don’t people care about me. I’m just a young guy trying to figure this stuff out and they won’t even respond to my calls or my emails. I can’t even get through, I thought these people really cared.” Now to be on the flip side of that, I didn’t realize what life is actually like for that, for people like that. For me, I understand that now at a whole other level. We’ve got a million and a half people on our subscriber list. We have 68000 customers, we’ve got coaching programs, got family, got friends. We have to put up barriers to protect yourself or it’s impossible. I felt, I can’t even tell you how bad I feel having Brent this morning, “Can you tell everyone to not do pictures with me.” It’s not that I don’t want to, but do you want me to tell you what actually happens typically? This is why we have to put barriers around ourselves. Here’s my phone, I’ll be in a room, like Funnel Hacking Live and there will be 3000 people in the room, and I’m walking through and someone’s like, “Real quick, real quick, can I get a picture?” I’m like, “I gotta go.” And they’re like, “It’ll take one second.” And I’m like, ahh, “Okay, fine, quick.” And they’re like, “Hold on.” And they get their phone out and they’re like, “Uh, uh, okay, uh, alright got it. Crap it’s flipped around. Okay, actually can you hold this, my arms not long enough can you hold it? Actually, hey you come here real quick, can you hold this so we can get a picture? Okay ready, one two three cheese.” And they grab the camera and they’re off. And for them it took one second. And that person leaves, and guess what’s behind them? A line of like 500 people. And then for the next like 8 hours, the first Funnel Hacking Live, was anyone here at the first Funnel Hacking Live? I spent 3 ½ hours up front doing pictures with everybody and I almost died afterwards. I’m like, I can’t…but I didn’t know how to say no, it was super, super hard. So I realize now, to protect your sanity, people up there have all sorts of gatekeepers and it’s hard. So the way you get through is not being more annoying, and trying to get through people. The way you get to them is by understanding the levels of that. So I tried a whole bunch of times, and I couldn’t get in so I was like, “Crap, screw those guys. They don’t like me anyway, they must be jerks, I’m sure they’re just avoiding me and I’m on a blacklist….” All the thoughts that go through your head. And at that time, I started looking around me. I started looking around and I was like, “hey, there’s some really cool people here.” And that’s when I met, I remember Mike Filsaime, Mike Filsaime at the time had just created a product he launched and he had like a list of, I don’t know, maybe 3 or 4 thousand people. And I remember I created my first product, Zipbrander, and I was all scared and I’m like ,”Hey Mike, I created this thing Zipbrander.” And he messaged back, “Dude that’s the coolest thing in the world.” A couple of things, Mike didn’t have a gatekeeper, it was just him. He got my email, he saw it, and he was like, “This is actually cool.” I’m like, “Cool, do you want to promote it?” and he’s like, “Yes, I would love to promote it.” I’m like, oh my gosh. I had never made a sale online at this point, by the way, other than a couple of little things that fell apart. I never actually made a sale of my own product. Zipbrander was my very first, my own product that I ever created. So Mike was that cool, he sent an email to his list, his 5000 person list, they came over, I had this little pop up that came to the site and bounced around, back in the day. I had 270 people opt in to my list from Mike’s email to it, and I think we made like 8 or 10 sales, which wasn’t a lot, but 67 that’s $670, they gave me half, I made $350 on an email and gained 300 people on my list. I’m like, oh my gosh this is amazing. And I asked Mike, “Who are the other people you hang out with? I don’t know very many people.” And he’s like, “Oh dude, you gotta meet this guy, he’s awesome.” And he brought me to someone else, and I’m like, “Oh this is cool. “ and Mike’s like, “Dude, I promoted Zipbrander, it was awesome, you should promote it.” And then he’s like, “Oh cool.” And he promoted Zipbrander. I’m like, oh my gosh, I got another 30-40 people on my list and there were a couple more sales. And then I asked him, “Who do you know?” and there was someone else, and we stared doing this thing and all the sudden there were 8 or 10 of us who were all at this level and we all started masterminding, networking, figuring things out, cross promote each other and what happened, what’s interesting is that all of our little brands that were small at the time started growing, and they started growing, and they started growing. All the sudden we were at the next tier. And when we got to the next tier all the sudden all these new people started being aware of us and started answering our calls and doing things, and Mike’s like, ‘Oh my gosh, I met this guy who used to be untouchable.” And he brought him in and brought them in and all the sudden we’re at the next level. And we started growing again and growing again. And the next thing we know, four years later I get a phone call from Tony Robbins assistant, they’re like, “Hey I’m sitting in a room and I got Mike Filsaime, Frank Kern, Jeff Walker, all these guys are sitting in a room with Tony Robbins and he thinks that you guys are the biggest internet nerds in the world, he’s obsessed with it and he wants to know if he can meet you in Salt Lake in like an hour.” What? Tony Robbins? I’ve emailed him 8000 times, he’s never responded even once, I thought he hated me. Not that he hated me, it’s that he had so many gatekeepers, he had no idea who I was. But eventually you start getting value and you collectively as a level of the dream 100 becomes more and more powerful. Eventually people notice you because you become the bigger people. And each tier gets bigger and bigger and bigger. So my biggest advice for you and for everybody is understanding that. Yes, it’s good to have these huge dreams and big people, but start looking around. There are so many partnerships to be had just inside this room. How many deals have you done with people in this room so far? Nic: Quite a few. Russell: More than one, right. Nic: Yeah, more than one. Russell: Start looking around you guys. Don’t always look up, up, up and try to get this thing. Look around and realize collectively, man, start doing the crossings because that’s how everyone starts growing together and there will be a time where I’ll be coming to you guys begging, “Can you please look at my stuff you guys, I have this thing called Clickfunnels. You may have heard of it. Can you please help me promote it?” And that’s what’s going to happen, okay. So the level of the dream 100 is the last thing, just don’t discount that. Because so many people are like swinging for the fence and just hoping for this homerun like I was, and it’s funny because I remember eventually people would respond to me, that I was trying for before, and they’d contact me. And I was like, oh my gosh. I realized, I thought this person hated me, I thought I was on a black list. I was assuming they were getting these emails and like, “oh, I hate this. Russell’s a scammer.” In my head right. They never saw any of them. Until they saw me, and they reached out to me and the whole dynamic shifted. So realizing that, kind of looking around and start building your dream 100 list, even within this room, within the communities that you’re in, because there’s power in that. And as you grow collectively, as a group, everyone will grow together, and that’s the magic. So that was number seven. So to recap the seven really quick. Number one, tell your story way too much, to the point where you’re so annoyed and so sick and tired of hearing it that everybody comes to you, and then keep telling it even some more. Number two, in everything you’re doing, energy matters a lot. To the point, even above what you think you’re comfortable with and do that all the time. Number three, make offers for everything. Hook, story, don’t leave them hanging, give them an offer because they’ll go and they will feel more completed afterwards. Number four, start building a list, it ties back to the first thing. Make an offer, get them to build your list, start growing your list because your list is your actual business. Number five, integration marketing. Look for other people’s marketing channels and how you can weave what you do into those channels, so you can get free traffic from all the people who are doing stuff. Number five, create rainmaker projects, find really cool things and bring four or five people together and make something amazing. Share the cash, share the customer list, elevate your status, elevate your brand, and it’s really fun to do because you get to know a whole bunch of people. And Number seven, understanding the levels of the dream 100. Find the people at your level and start growing with them together collectively as you do that, and in a year, two years, three years, five years Tony Robbins will be calling you, asking you to make his video and it will be amazing. Does that sound good? Awesome. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 07 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0000 My Conversation With The Friendly Giant - Part 2 of 2 (Revisited!) full 403 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is the conclusion of the special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey... Here is the conclusion of the special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, welcome to Marketing Secrets podcast. I’m so excited, I’m here on stage right now at the Two Comma Club X event with Mr. Nic Fitzgerald onstage. A year ago I gave a podcast to him about how to make it rain and this is section number two. Now those of you who don’t know, in the last 12 months since I did that podcast he’s been making it rain and he’s been changing his life, his family’s lives, but more importantly, other people’s lives as well. And it’s been really cool, so that’s what we’re going to cover today during this episode of the podcast. So welcome back you guys. I’m here on stage with Nic Fitzgerald, so excited. So I made a list of seven things that if I was to sit in a room with him in front of a whole bunch of people I’d be like, “Hey Nic, you’re doing awesome, but here’s some things to look at that I think will help you a lot with what you’re doing.” So number one, when Nic first kind of started into this movement that he’s trying to create, I don’t know when it was, if you created this before or after. When did you create the Star Wars video? Nic: This was, we talked in July, it was September/October. So a few months later. Russell: How many of you guys have seen his Star Wars video? Okay, I’m so glad. For those who are listening, about 10% of the room raised their hand, the other 90% who are friends and followers and fans of Nic have never seen the Star Wars video. His Star Wars video is his origin story and it is one of the best videos I have ever, by far the best video I’ve seen him do, it is insanely good. It comes, do you want to talk about what happened in the video? It’s insanely good. Nic: So I told the story of, I’m a huge Star Wars nerd, so if you didn’t know that, now you do. When I was young my grandma who lived in the same neighborhood as me, she took me to go see Return of the Jedi in the movie theater and I was such a Star Wars nerd, even at a young age, that when I was playing at the neighbors house, and you know, it’s the 80s, so mom and dad are like, “Nic, come home for dinner.” That kind of thing, I would ignore them. I would not come home until they called me “Luke”. No lie. I would make them call me Luke, or I would ignore them. I would not hear them. Russell: Had I known this in high school I would have teased him relentlessly. Nic: So my grandma took me and I remember going and it was so fun because we took the bus, it was just a fun thing. And we went and I just remember walking in and handing my ticket to the ticket person. And then popcorn and just the smells of everything. And again, this is the 80s so walking in the movie theater; I almost lost a shoe in the sticky soda, {sound effects} going on. I just remember how my feet stuck to the floor and all that stuff. And then just being so excited to see my heroes on the big screen and Dark Vader, I just remember watching it. This is such a silly thing to get emotional about, but you know I remember the emperor and Darth Vader dying and all that stuff. It was just like, ah. It was a perfect day. Sorry sound dude. But it was just a perfect day with my grandma who has always been dear to me. So the purpose of that video, I’d put it off for a long time. I knew I needed to tell my own story if I’m going to be helping somebody else tell theirs. And I put it off for a long time, because working through things, I was afraid that if it sucked, if the story was terrible, if the visuals were crappy, that was a reflection on me and my skills. I had worked on a bazillion Hallmark Christmas movies, you know how they put out like 17 trillion Christmas movies every year, if one of those sucks, no offense, they’re not riveting television. Russell: They all suck. Nic: That wasn’t a reflection on me, I was just doing the lighting or the camera work. I didn’t write the story, it wasn’t my story. But this was me, so I put it off for a long time because I knew if I didn’t execute how I envisioned it, that it would reflect poorly on me, and it would be like I was a fraud. So the purpose of the video, there were three purposes. One to tell a story and get people to connect with me on a personal level. As I told that story here, how many of you remembered your feet sticking to the floor of a movie theater? How many of you, when I talk about the smell of popcorn and that sound, you felt and heard and smelled that. So it was one thing, I wanted people to connect with me and just see that I was just like you. Then I wanted to show that I could make a pretty picture. So I had that and I used my family members as the actors. And then I went and talked about how…and then I wanted to use it to build credibility. I’ve worked on 13 feature films and two television series and shot news for the NBC affiliate and worked in tons of commercials. So I’ve learned from master story tellers and now I want to help other people find and tell their story. And then I showed clips of stories that I tell throughout the years. So that was, I just remember specifically when I finally went and made it live, I made a list of about 20 people, my Dream 100 I guess you could say. I just wanted to send them and be like, “Hey, I made this video. I would love for you to watch it.” And Russell’s on that list. So I sent that out and made it live and then it was just kind of funny, it didn’t go viral, I got like 5000 views in a day, and it was like “whoa!” kind of thing. But it was just one of those things that I knew I needed to tell my story and if I wanted to have any credibility as a story teller, not as a videographer, but as a story teller, being able to help people connect, and connect hearts and build relationships with their audience, I had to knock it out of the park. So that was my attempt at doing that. Russell: And the video’s amazing, for the 10% of the room who saw it, it is amazing. Now my point here for Nic, but also for everyone here, I wrote down, is tell your story too much. Only 10% of the room has ever seen that video or ever heard it. How many of you guys have heard my potato gun story more than a dozen times? Almost the entire room, for those that are listening. Tell your story to the point where you are so sick and tired of telling the story and hearing it, that you just want to kill yourself, and then tell it again. And then tell it again. And then tell it again, because it is amazing. The video is amazing, the story is amazing. How many of you guys feel more connected to him after hearing that story right now? It’s amazing. Tell t he story too much. All of us are going to be like, “I don’t want to hear the story. I don’t want to tell the story again.” You should be telling that story over and over and over again. That video should be showing it. At least once a week you should be following everyone, retargeting ads of that video. That video should be, everyone should see it. You’ve got 5,000 views which is amazing, you should get 5,000 views a day, consistently telling that story, telling that story. Because you’re right, it’s beautiful, it’s amazing and people see that and they’re like, “Oh my gosh, I need that for my business. I need to be able to tell my story the way he told that story, because the connection is flawless.” And I think my biggest thing for you right now, is tell your story more. Tell that thing. You’re telling good stories, but that story, that’s like your linchpin, that’s the thing that if you can tell that, it’s going to keep people connected to you for forever. Anyone who’s seen that video, you have a different level of connection. It’s amazing, it’s shot beautifully. You see his kids looking at the movies, with lights flashing, it’s beautiful. So telling your story more, that’d be the biggest thing. It’s just like, all the time telling that story over and over and over again. That’s number one. Alright, number two, this one’s not so much for you as much for most of everybody else in here, but number two is that energy matters a lot. I’m not talking about, I’m tired during the day. I’m talking about when you are live, or you are talking in front of people, your energy matters a lot. I was hanging out with Dana Derricks, how many of you guys know Dana, our resident goat farmer? By the way, he’s asked every time I mention his name is please not send him anymore goats. He’s gotten like 2 or 3 goats in the last month from all of our friends and family members here in the community. Please stop sending him goats. He loves them but he doesn’t want any more. Anyway, what’s interesting, I was talking to Dana, and he’s like, “Do you know the biggest thing I’ve learned from you?” and I’m like, “No. what?” and I thought it was going to be like dream 100 and things like that. No, the biggest thing that Dana learned from me, he told me, was that energy matters a lot. He’s like, “When I hang out with you, you’re kind of like blah, but when you get on stage you’re like, baaahh!” and I started telling him, the reason why is when I first started this career, in fact, I have my brother right now pulling all the video clips of me from like 12 or 13 years ago, when I had a shaved head and I was awkward like, “Hi, my name is Russell Brunson.” And we’re trying to make this montage of me over 15 years of doing this and how awkward and weird I was, and how it took 8-10 years until I was normal and started growing my hair out. But I’m trying to show that whole montage, but if you look at it like, I was going through that process and the biggest thing I learned is that if I talked to people like this, when you’re on video you sound like this. The very first, I think I’d have an idea and then I’d just do stupid things. So I saw an infomercial, so I’m like I should do an infomercial. So I hired this company to make an infomercial and next thing I know two weeks later I’m in Florida and there’s this host on this show and he’s like the cheesiest cheese ball ever. I’m so embarrassed. He asked me a question and I’m like, “Well, um, you know, duh, duh…” and he’s like, “Whoa, cut, cut, cut.” He’s like, “Dude, holy crap. You have no energy.” I’m like, “No, I feel really good. I have a lot of energy right now.” He’s like, “No, no you don’t understand. When you’re on tv, you have to talk like this to sound normal. If you just talk normal, you sound like you’re asleep.” I’m like, “I don’t know.” So we did this whole infomercial and he’s like all over the top and I’m just like, trying to go a little bit higher and it was awkward. I went back and watched it later, and he sounded completely normal and I looked like I was dead on the road. It was weird. Brandon Fischer, I don’t know if he’s still in the audience, but we did…Brandon’s back here. So four years ago when Clickfunnels first came out we made these videos that when you first signed up we gave away a free t-shirt. How many of you guys remember seeing those videos? I made those videos and then they lasted for like four years, and then we just reshot them last week because it’s like, “Oh wow, the demo video when we’re showing CLickfunnels does not look like Clickfunnels anymore. It’s completely changed in four years.” So Todd’s like, “You have to make a new video.” I’m like, “I don’t want to make a video.’ So finally we made the new videos, recorded them and got them up there and we posted them online, and before we posted them on, I went and watched the old ones, and I watched the old ones and I was like, “Oh my gosh, this is just four years ago, I am so depressing. How did anybody watch this video?” It was bad, right Brandon. It was like painfully bad. I was like, “oh my gosh.” That was just four years ago. Imagine six years ago, or ten years. It was really, really bad. And when I notice the more energy you have, the more energy everyone else has. It seems weird at first, but always stretch more than you feel comfortable, and it seems normal, and then you’ll feel better with it and better with it. But what’s interesting about humans is we are attracted to energy. I used to hate people talking energy talk, because I thought it was like the nerdy woo-woo crap. But it’s so weird and real actually. I notice this in all aspects of my life. When I come home at night, usually I am beat up and tired and worn out. I get up early in the morning, and then I work super hard, I get home and I get out of the car and I come to the door and before I open the door, I’m always like, Okay if I come in like, ugh, my whole family is going to be depressed with me.” They’ll all lower to my energy level. So I sit there and I get into state and I’m like, okay, whew. I open the door and I’m like, “What’s up guys!! I’m home!” and all the sudden my kids are like, “Oh dad’s home!” and they start running in, it’s this huge thing, it’s crazy, and then the tone is set, everyone’s energy is high and the rest of the night’s amazing. When I come in the office, I walk in and realize I’m the leader of this office and if I come in like, “Hey guys, what’s up? Hey Nic, what’s up?” Then everyone’s going to be like {sound effect}. So I’m like, okay when I come in I have to come in here, otherwise everyone is going to be down on a normal level. I have to bring people up. So we walk in the office now and I’m like, “What’s up everybody, how’s it going?” and I’m excited and they’re like, “Oh.” And everyone’s energy rises and the whole company grows together. So l love when Dave walks through the door, have you guys ever noticed this? When Dave walks through the door, I’m at a 10, Dave’s like at a 32 and it’s just like, he wakes up and comes over to my  house at 4:30 in the morning to lift weights. I sleep in an hour later, and I come in at 5:45 or something, and I walk in and I’m just like, “I want to die.” And I walk in and he’s like, “Hey how’s it going?.” I’m like, “Really good man. You’ve been here for an hour.” And all the sudden I’m like, oh my gosh I feel better. Instantly raised up. It’s kind of like tuning forks. Have you noticed this? If you get two tuning forks at different things and you wack one, and you wack the other one, and you bring them close together, what will happen is the waves will increase and they end up going at the exact same level. So energy matters. The higher your energy, the higher everyone else around you will be, on video, on audio, on face…everything, energy matters a lot. So that’s number two, when you’re making videos, thinking about that. Alright number three, okay this, you were like 90% there and I watched the whole thing and I was so excited and then you missed the last piece and I was like, “Oh it was so good.” So a year after that Facebook message came, you did a Facebook live one year later to the day, and he told that story on Facebook live. And I was like, “Oh my gosh this is amazing.” And he told that story, and he was talking about it, and I was emotional, going through the whole thing again. This is so cool, this is so cool. And he told the story about the podcast, and this podcast was an hour long, and the thing and his life changed and all this stuff… And I know that me and a whole bunch of you guys, a whole bunch of entrepreneurs listened to this story and they’re at bated breath, “This is amazing, this is amazing.” And he gets to the very end, “Alright guys, see you tomorrow.” Boom, clicks off. And I was like, “Aaahhh!” How can you leave me in that state?  I need something, I need something. So the note here is I said, make offers for everything. Think about this, at the end when you ended, and everyone’s thinking, I want to hear that episode, where is that? How would it be? Now imagine you take the opportunity at the very end that says, “How many of you guys would like to hear that episode where Russell actually made me a personal podcast? And how many of you guys would actually like if I gave you my commentary about what  I learned and why it was actually important to me? All you gotta do right now is post down below and write ‘I’m in.’ and I’ll add you to my messenger list and I’ll send you that podcast along with the recording where I actually told you what this meant to me.” Boom, now all those people listening are now on his list. Or they can even go opt in somewhere. But all you did was tell the story and everything and we were all sitting with bated breath and I was just like, at the end make the offer. You guys want the stuff I talked about, you want the thing? You want the thing? And then you send them somewhere and now you captured them and consider them longer term and you can do more things with them. It was like, hook, story, dude where’s my offer? Give me something. But it was awesome. How many of you guys felt that way when you listened to that thing and you’re just like, “I don’t even know where to find that episode. Russell’s got eight thousand episodes everywhere, I don’t even know where to look for it.” You could have been like, here’s the link. Just the link….if you guys can’t figure out how to make an offer, go listen to a whole bunch of stuff, find something amazing and be like, “oh my gosh you guys, I was listening to this Tim Ferris podcast, he did like 800 episodes, every one is like 18 hours long, they’re really hard to listen to, but I found this one from 3 ½-4 years ago where he taught this concept and it was insane. It was amazing; I learned this and this. How many of you want to know what that is? Okay, I have the link, if you message me down below I’ll send you the link to exactly where to find that episode.” Everyone will give it to you.  You’ll be like, “But it’s free on the internet Russell.” It doesn’t matter. You know where it’s at and they don’t. They will give you their contact information in exchange for you giving them a direct link to the link. Back before I had anything to give away for opt ins, guess what I used to do. I used to go to YouTube and I would find cool videos from famous people. One of my favorite ones we did was I went and typed in YouTube, “Robert Kiyosaki” because he was one of my big mentors at the time. And there was all these amazing Robert Kiyosaki videos on YouTube for free. Tons of them. Hour long training from Robert Kiyosaki. Four hour long event from Robert Kiyosaki. All this stuff for free listed in YouTube. So I made a little Clickfunnels membership site, I got all the free videos and put them inside a members area and just like, “Tab one, Robert Kiyosaki talking about investing, Robert Kiyosaki talking about stocks, Robert Kiyosaki talking….”  And I just put all the videos in there and made a squeeze page like, “Hey, who wants a whole bunch of free, my favorite Robert Kiyosaki videos?” and I made a little landing page, people opt in, I give them access to the membership site, and then I went and targeted Robert Kiyosaki’s audience and built a huge list off his people. Dream 100. Imagine with Dream 100 instead of doing just one campaign to all the people, if each person in your dream 100 you made a customized membership site with the free content right now, be like, “Hey, you’ve listened to a lot of Grant Cardone, he’s got four podcasts, 5000 episodes, there’s only four that are actually really, really good. Do you guys want to know what they are? Opt in here, I’ll give you the four best episodes of all. I currated all these for you to give you the four best.” And target Grant’s audience with that, now you got all his buyers coming into your world. Is that alright, is that good. Alright number four ties along with this. Number four, start building a list ASAP. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you do a call to action to get a list anywhere, have I? After today’s session you’re …..just build a list. If you got nothing from this event at all, every time you do a hook and story, put them somewhere to build a list, because that’s the longevity. Because that’s where if Zuckerberg snaps his finger and you lose all your fans and followings and friends, and all the sudden you’re trying to build over somewhere else, it won’t matter because you’ll have those people somewhere external and now you can message them and bring them back into whatever world you need them to be at. But that’s how you build stability in business. It’s also how you sell this time, you want to sell it the next time and the next time, the list is the key. Funnel Hacking Live, the first Funnel Hacking Live it was a lot of work and we sold out 600 people in the room, and we kept growing the list and growing the list, the next year we did 1200. Then we did 1500, last year was 3000, this year we’re going to be at 5000. We’re building up the list and building up pressure and excitement and then when you release it, it gives you the ability to blow things up really, really fast.  Okay, that was number four. Okay number five, I wrote down integration marketing, adding to other’s offers to build a buyer list. So this is a little sneaky tactic we used to back in the day when I didn’t have my own list, but I had a couple of skills and talents which you do happen to have, which is nice. If you have no skills this won’t work, but if you have skills you’re lucky. So Frank Kern used to do this as well. Frank is sneaky. He used to do this all the time and I saw him doing it and I’m like, “Oh my gosh, he’s brilliant.” So Frank did a one hour presentation somewhere and he called it Mind Control, it wasn’t Mass Control, but it was something like about how to control the minds of your prospects through manipulation and something sneaky. And the title alone was amazing. It was a one hour presentation he gave somewhere. And he put it on these DVDs and what he did, he went to like Dan Kennedy and he’s like, “Hey Dan, you have all of your buyer and you send them this newsletter every single month,” at the time they had 13000 active members, these were their best buyers. He’s like, “This DVD I sell for like a thousand bucks. Do you want to give it to all your people for free?” And Dan’s like, “sure.” And all the sudden the next month, Franks got his best CD with his best stuff in the mailbox of the 13000 best customers, every single person that Dan Kennedy’s been collecting for the last 15 years. So think about this. With your skill set, look at the other people in the market, all the dream 100 who are doing things and how do you create something you can plug into their offers, and every single time one of those people sell a product, your face is popping up as well. It’s called integration marketing, my first mentor Mark Joyner wrote a book called Integration Marketing, it’s a really fast read. You can read it in an hour, but it will get your mind set thinking about it. How can I integrate with what other people are always doing? Because I can go and make a sell, and make another sell, but I was like, when we launched Clickfunnels I was like, “How can I figure out other people’s sales processes that are already happening and somehow inject myself into all these other sales processes?” That way every single time Steven Larsen sells something or someone else sells something, or all these people are selling something, it always somehow gets flown back to me. I want every product, every course, everything happening in the internet marketing world to somehow have people saying my name. That’s my goal. How many of you guy have been to other people’s events and I’m not there and they say my name? It makes me so happy. I get the instagrams from some of you guys, “Hey so and so just said your name.” I’m like, that’s so good. How have I done that? I spent a lot of my life integrating into everybody’s offers. Initially when I first got started, every single person who had a product, I was an interview in everyone’s product. I was like, looking at people launching a product, specific product launches coming, I’d contact them. Product launch is coming up, “Hey man, is there any way I could do a cool thing for your people? I could create this and give it to you and you could plug it into your product?” and everyone’s like, ‘Sure, that’d be awesome.” And all the sudden, boom, they get 5000 new buyers came in and every single one of them got my thing. They’re hearing my name, hearing my voice and it’s just constant integration. I think about how I met Joe Vitale, I talked about that earlier with the greatest showman. He was in an interview in a course I bought from Mark Joyner, I listened to it, fell in love with Joe Vitale, bought his stuff, given him tons of money over the years, a whole bunch of good stuff because he was integrated in that. So looking at other ways to integrate, the skill set that you already have into other people’s marketing channels because then you’re leveraging anytime any of these partners make a sell, you’re getting customers coming through that flow as well. Cool? Nic: Yeah. Russell: That was number five. Number six, I call this one rainmaker projects, because we talked about rainmaker during the first podcast interview. So rainmaker projects are, and again when I first started my career I did tons of these, where it’s like, I was really good at one piece. For you, you’re really good at video and story telling. And I look out here and be like, okay who is someone else here that is awesome? So and so is really good at making a product on Facebook ads. “You’re really good at Facebook ads, so I’ll do the video for this course, you do the Facebook, you do the actual ads for us.” And then, you’re awesome at doing the traffic and you bring in four or five people, like this little avenger team, and you create a cobranded product together and you launch it and everyone makes a bunch of money, split all the money, 50/50/50/50, that makes more than 100,but you know what I’m talking about, everyone splits the money, everyone splits the customer list and all the sudden you’ve all pulled your efforts, your energy, your talents together and everyone leaves with some cash, and you also leave with the customer list, and that’s when you start growing really, really rapidly. When I started I didn’t have a customer list, I had a very small one. But I had a couple of skill sets so that’s why I did tons of these things. That’s like, if you guys know any of my old friends like Mike Filsaime, Gary Ambrose, I could list off all the old partners we had back in the day, and that’s what we did all the time, these little rainmaker projects. We didn’t call them that back in the day, but that’s what it was. It was just like, we all knew what our skill sets were, and it’s like, let’s come together, let’s make a project. This isn’t going to be how we change the world, it’s not going to be something we’re going to scale and grow, but it’s like, it’s going to be a project, we put it together, we launch it, make some money, get some customers, get our name out in the market, and then we step away from it and then we all go back to our own businesses. It’s not like, that’s why it’s funny because a lot of times people are scared of these. Like, “Well, how do we set up the business structure? Who’s going to be the owner? Who’s the boss?” No, none of that. This is an in and out project where all the rainmakers come together and you create something amazing for a short period of time, you split the money and you go back home with the money and the customers. But it gave you a bump in status, a big bump in customer lists, a big bump in cash and then all those things kind of rise and if you do enough of those your status keeps growing and growing and growing, and it’s a really fast easy way to continue to grow. How many of you guys want to do a rainmaker project with Nic right now? Alright, very, very cool. Alright, and then I got one last, this is number seven. This kind of ties back to dream 100. The last thing I talked about was, and again this is kind of for everyone in the group, is the levels of the dream 100. I remember when I first started this process, I first got the concept and I didn’t know it was the dream 100 back then, but I was looking at all the different people that would have been on my dream 100 list. It was Mark Joyner, Joe Vitale, all these people that for me were top tier. Tony Robbins, Richard Branson, and I was like, oh, and I started trying to figure out how to get in those spots. And the more I tried, it was so hard to get through the gatekeeper, it was impossible to get through all these gatekeepers, these people. I was like, “Man don’t people care about me. I’m just a young guy trying to figure this stuff out and they won’t even respond to my calls or my emails. I can’t even get through, I thought these people really cared.” Now to be on the flip side of that, I didn’t realize what life is actually like for that, for people like that. For me, I understand that now at a whole other level. We’ve got a million and a half people on our subscriber list. We have 68000 customers, we’ve got coaching programs, got family, got friends. We have to put up barriers to protect yourself or it’s impossible. I felt, I can’t even tell you how bad I feel having Brent this morning, “Can you tell everyone to not do pictures with me.” It’s not that I don’t want to, but do you want me to tell you what actually happens typically? This is why we have to put barriers around ourselves. Here’s my phone, I’ll be in a room, like Funnel Hacking Live and there will be 3000 people in the room, and I’m walking through and someone’s like, “Real quick, real quick, can I get a picture?” I’m like, “I gotta go.” And they’re like, “It’ll take one second.” And I’m like, ahh, “Okay, fine, quick.” And they’re like, “Hold on.” And they get their phone out and they’re like, “Uh, uh, okay, uh, alright got it. Crap it’s flipped around. Okay, actually can you hold this, my arms not long enough can you hold it? Actually, hey you come here real quick, can you hold this so we can get a picture? Okay ready, one two three cheese.” And they grab the camera and they’re off. And for them it took one second. And that person leaves, and guess what’s behind them? A line of like 500 people. And then for the next like 8 hours, the first Funnel Hacking Live, was anyone here at the first Funnel Hacking Live? I spent 3 ½ hours up front doing pictures with everybody and I almost died afterwards. I’m like, I can’t…but I didn’t know how to say no, it was super, super hard. So I realize now, to protect your sanity, people up there have all sorts of gatekeepers and it’s hard. So the way you get through is not being more annoying, and trying to get through people. The way you get to them is by understanding the levels of that. So I tried a whole bunch of times, and I couldn’t get in so I was like, “Crap, screw those guys. They don’t like me anyway, they must be jerks, I’m sure they’re just avoiding me and I’m on a blacklist….” All the thoughts that go through your head. And at that time, I started looking around me. I started looking around and I was like, “hey, there’s some really cool people here.” And that’s when I met, I remember Mike Filsaime, Mike Filsaime at the time had just created a product he launched and he had like a list of, I don’t know, maybe 3 or 4 thousand people. And I remember I created my first product, Zipbrander, and I was all scared and I’m like ,”Hey Mike, I created this thing Zipbrander.” And he messaged back, “Dude that’s the coolest thing in the world.” A couple of things, Mike didn’t have a gatekeeper, it was just him. He got my email, he saw it, and he was like, “This is actually cool.” I’m like, “Cool, do you want to promote it?” and he’s like, “Yes, I would love to promote it.” I’m like, oh my gosh. I had never made a sale online at this point, by the way, other than a couple of little things that fell apart. I never actually made a sale of my own product. Zipbrander was my very first, my own product that I ever created. So Mike was that cool, he sent an email to his list, his 5000 person list, they came over, I had this little pop up that came to the site and bounced around, back in the day. I had 270 people opt in to my list from Mike’s email to it, and I think we made like 8 or 10 sales, which wasn’t a lot, but 67 that’s $670, they gave me half, I made $350 on an email and gained 300 people on my list. I’m like, oh my gosh this is amazing. And I asked Mike, “Who are the other people you hang out with? I don’t know very many people.” And he’s like, “Oh dude, you gotta meet this guy, he’s awesome.” And he brought me to someone else, and I’m like, “Oh this is cool. “ and Mike’s like, “Dude, I promoted Zipbrander, it was awesome, you should promote it.” And then he’s like, “Oh cool.” And he promoted Zipbrander. I’m like, oh my gosh, I got another 30-40 people on my list and there were a couple more sales. And then I asked him, “Who do you know?” and there was someone else, and we stared doing this thing and all the sudden there were 8 or 10 of us who were all at this level and we all started masterminding, networking, figuring things out, cross promote each other and what happened, what’s interesting is that all of our little brands that were small at the time started growing, and they started growing, and they started growing. All the sudden we were at the next tier. And when we got to the next tier all the sudden all these new people started being aware of us and started answering our calls and doing things, and Mike’s like, ‘Oh my gosh, I met this guy who used to be untouchable.” And he brought him in and brought them in and all the sudden we’re at the next level. And we started growing again and growing again. And the next thing we know, four years later I get a phone call from Tony Robbins assistant, they’re like, “Hey I’m sitting in a room and I got Mike Filsaime, Frank Kern, Jeff Walker, all these guys are sitting in a room with Tony Robbins and he thinks that you guys are the biggest internet nerds in the world, he’s obsessed with it and he wants to know if he can meet you in Salt Lake in like an hour.” What? Tony Robbins? I’ve emailed him 8000 times, he’s never responded even once, I thought he hated me. Not that he hated me, it’s that he had so many gatekeepers, he had no idea who I was. But eventually you start getting value and you collectively as a level of the dream 100 becomes more and more powerful. Eventually people notice you because you become the bigger people. And each tier gets bigger and bigger and bigger. So my biggest advice for you and for everybody is understanding that. Yes, it’s good to have these huge dreams and big people, but start looking around. There are so many partnerships to be had just inside this room. How many deals have you done with people in this room so far? Nic: Quite a few. Russell: More than one, right. Nic: Yeah, more than one. Russell: Start looking around you guys. Don’t always look up, up, up and try to get this thing. Look around and realize collectively, man, start doing the crossings because that’s how everyone starts growing together and there will be a time where I’ll be coming to you guys begging, “Can you please look at my stuff you guys, I have this thing called Clickfunnels. You may have heard of it. Can you please help me promote it?” And that’s what’s going to happen, okay. So the level of the dream 100 is the last thing, just don’t discount that. Because so many people are like swinging for the fence and just hoping for this homerun like I was, and it’s funny because I remember eventually people would respond to me, that I was trying for before, and they’d contact me. And I was like, oh my gosh. I realized, I thought this person hated me, I thought I was on a black list. I was assuming they were getting these emails and like, “oh, I hate this. Russell’s a scammer.” In my head right. They never saw any of them. Until they saw me, and they reached out to me and the whole dynamic shifted. So realizing that, kind of looking around and start building your dream 100 list, even within this room, within the communities that you’re in, because there’s power in that. And as you grow collectively, as a group, everyone will grow together, and that’s the magic. So that was number seven. So to recap the seven really quick. Number one, tell your story way too much, to the point where you’re so annoyed and so sick and tired of hearing it that everybody comes to you, and then keep telling it even some more. Number two, in everything you’re doing, energy matters a lot. To the point, even above what you think you’re comfortable with and do that all the time. Number three, make offers for everything. Hook, story, don’t leave them hanging, give them an offer because they’ll go and they will feel more completed afterwards. Number four, start building a list, it ties back to the first thing. Make an offer, get them to build your list, start growing your list because your list is your actual business. Number five, integration marketing. Look for other people’s marketing channels and how you can weave what you do into those channels, so you can get free traffic from all the people who are doing stuff. Number five, create rainmaker projects, find really cool things and bring four or five people together and make something amazing. Share the cash, share the customer list, elevate your status, elevate your brand, and it’s really fun to do because you get to know a whole bunch of people. And Number seven, understanding the levels of the dream 100. Find the people at your level and start growing with them together collectively as you do that, and in a year, two years, three years, five years Tony Robbins will be calling you, asking you to make his video and it will be amazing. Does that sound good? Awesome. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is the conclusion of the special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald.

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Hey everybody, welcome to Marketing Secrets podcast. I’m so excited, I’m here on stage right now at the Two Comma Club X event with Mr. Nic Fitzgerald onstage. A year ago I gave a podcast to him about how to make it rain and this is section number two.

Now those of you who don’t know, in the last 12 months since I did that podcast he’s been making it rain and he’s been changing his life, his family’s lives, but more importantly, other people’s lives as well. And it’s been really cool, so that’s what we’re going to cover today during this episode of the podcast.

So welcome back you guys. I’m here on stage with Nic Fitzgerald, so excited. So I made a list of seven things that if I was to sit in a room with him in front of a whole bunch of people I’d be like, “Hey Nic, you’re doing awesome, but here’s some things to look at that I think will help you a lot with what you’re doing.”

So number one, when Nic first kind of started into this movement that he’s trying to create, I don’t know when it was, if you created this before or after. When did you create the Star Wars video?

Nic: This was, we talked in July, it was September/October. So a few months later.

Russell: How many of you guys have seen his Star Wars video? Okay, I’m so glad. For those who are listening, about 10% of the room raised their hand, the other 90% who are friends and followers and fans of Nic have never seen the Star Wars video. His Star Wars video is his origin story and it is one of the best videos I have ever, by far the best video I’ve seen him do, it is insanely good. It comes, do you want to talk about what happened in the video? It’s insanely good.

Nic: So I told the story of, I’m a huge Star Wars nerd, so if you didn’t know that, now you do. When I was young my grandma who lived in the same neighborhood as me, she took me to go see Return of the Jedi in the movie theater and I was such a Star Wars nerd, even at a young age, that when I was playing at the neighbors house, and you know, it’s the 80s, so mom and dad are like, “Nic, come home for dinner.” That kind of thing, I would ignore them. I would not come home until they called me “Luke”. No lie. I would make them call me Luke, or I would ignore them. I would not hear them.

Russell: Had I known this in high school I would have teased him relentlessly.

Nic: So my grandma took me and I remember going and it was so fun because we took the bus, it was just a fun thing. And we went and I just remember walking in and handing my ticket to the ticket person. And then popcorn and just the smells of everything. And again, this is the 80s so walking in the movie theater; I almost lost a shoe in the sticky soda, {sound effects} going on. I just remember how my feet stuck to the floor and all that stuff.

And then just being so excited to see my heroes on the big screen and Dark Vader, I just remember watching it. This is such a silly thing to get emotional about, but you know I remember the emperor and Darth Vader dying and all that stuff. It was just like, ah. It was a perfect day. Sorry sound dude. But it was just a perfect day with my grandma who has always been dear to me.

So the purpose of that video, I’d put it off for a long time. I knew I needed to tell my own story if I’m going to be helping somebody else tell theirs. And I put it off for a long time, because working through things, I was afraid that if it sucked, if the story was terrible, if the visuals were crappy, that was a reflection on me and my skills. I had worked on a bazillion Hallmark Christmas movies, you know how they put out like 17 trillion Christmas movies every year, if one of those sucks, no offense, they’re not riveting television.

Russell: They all suck.

Nic: That wasn’t a reflection on me, I was just doing the lighting or the camera work. I didn’t write the story, it wasn’t my story. But this was me, so I put it off for a long time because I knew if I didn’t execute how I envisioned it, that it would reflect poorly on me, and it would be like I was a fraud.

So the purpose of the video, there were three purposes. One to tell a story and get people to connect with me on a personal level. As I told that story here, how many of you remembered your feet sticking to the floor of a movie theater? How many of you, when I talk about the smell of popcorn and that sound, you felt and heard and smelled that. So it was one thing, I wanted people to connect with me and just see that I was just like you.

Then I wanted to show that I could make a pretty picture. So I had that and I used my family members as the actors. And then I went and talked about how…and then I wanted to use it to build credibility. I’ve worked on 13 feature films and two television series and shot news for the NBC affiliate and worked in tons of commercials. So I’ve learned from master story tellers and now I want to help other people find and tell their story. And then I showed clips of stories that I tell throughout the years.

So that was, I just remember specifically when I finally went and made it live, I made a list of about 20 people, my Dream 100 I guess you could say. I just wanted to send them and be like, “Hey, I made this video. I would love for you to watch it.” And Russell’s on that list. So I sent that out and made it live and then it was just kind of funny, it didn’t go viral, I got like 5000 views in a day, and it was like “whoa!” kind of thing.

But it was just one of those things that I knew I needed to tell my story and if I wanted to have any credibility as a story teller, not as a videographer, but as a story teller, being able to help people connect, and connect hearts and build relationships with their audience, I had to knock it out of the park. So that was my attempt at doing that.

Russell: And the video’s amazing, for the 10% of the room who saw it, it is amazing. Now my point here for Nic, but also for everyone here, I wrote down, is tell your story too much. Only 10% of the room has ever seen that video or ever heard it. How many of you guys have heard my potato gun story more than a dozen times? Almost the entire room, for those that are listening. Tell your story to the point where you are so sick and tired of telling the story and hearing it, that you just want to kill yourself, and then tell it again. And then tell it again. And then tell it again, because it is amazing. The video is amazing, the story is amazing.

How many of you guys feel more connected to him after hearing that story right now? It’s amazing. Tell t he story too much. All of us are going to be like, “I don’t want to hear the story. I don’t want to tell the story again.” You should be telling that story over and over and over again. That video should be showing it. At least once a week you should be following everyone, retargeting ads of that video. That video should be, everyone should see it. You’ve got 5,000 views which is amazing, you should get 5,000 views a day, consistently telling that story, telling that story.

Because you’re right, it’s beautiful, it’s amazing and people see that and they’re like, “Oh my gosh, I need that for my business. I need to be able to tell my story the way he told that story, because the connection is flawless.” And I think my biggest thing for you right now, is tell your story more. Tell that thing.

You’re telling good stories, but that story, that’s like your linchpin, that’s the thing that if you can tell that, it’s going to keep people connected to you for forever. Anyone who’s seen that video, you have a different level of connection. It’s amazing, it’s shot beautifully. You see his kids looking at the movies, with lights flashing, it’s beautiful. So telling your story more, that’d be the biggest thing. It’s just like, all the time telling that story over and over and over again. That’s number one.

Alright, number two, this one’s not so much for you as much for most of everybody else in here, but number two is that energy matters a lot. I’m not talking about, I’m tired during the day. I’m talking about when you are live, or you are talking in front of people, your energy matters a lot.

I was hanging out with Dana Derricks, how many of you guys know Dana, our resident goat farmer? By the way, he’s asked every time I mention his name is please not send him anymore goats. He’s gotten like 2 or 3 goats in the last month from all of our friends and family members here in the community. Please stop sending him goats. He loves them but he doesn’t want any more.

Anyway, what’s interesting, I was talking to Dana, and he’s like, “Do you know the biggest thing I’ve learned from you?” and I’m like, “No. what?” and I thought it was going to be like dream 100 and things like that. No, the biggest thing that Dana learned from me, he told me, was that energy matters a lot. He’s like, “When I hang out with you, you’re kind of like blah, but when you get on stage you’re like, baaahh!” and I started telling him, the reason why is when I first started this career, in fact, I have my brother right now pulling all the video clips of me from like 12 or 13 years ago, when I had a shaved head and I was awkward like, “Hi, my name is Russell Brunson.” And we’re trying to make this montage of me over 15 years of doing this and how awkward and weird I was, and how it took 8-10 years until I was normal and started growing my hair out.

But I’m trying to show that whole montage, but if you look at it like, I was going through that process and the biggest thing I learned is that if I talked to people like this, when you’re on video you sound like this. The very first, I think I’d have an idea and then I’d just do stupid things. So I saw an infomercial, so I’m like I should do an infomercial.

So I hired this company to make an infomercial and next thing I know two weeks later I’m in Florida and there’s this host on this show and he’s like the cheesiest cheese ball ever. I’m so embarrassed. He asked me a question and I’m like, “Well, um, you know, duh, duh…” and he’s like, “Whoa, cut, cut, cut.” He’s like, “Dude, holy crap. You have no energy.” I’m like, “No, I feel really good. I have a lot of energy right now.” He’s like, “No, no you don’t understand. When you’re on tv, you have to talk like this to sound normal. If you just talk normal, you sound like you’re asleep.” I’m like, “I don’t know.”

So we did this whole infomercial and he’s like all over the top and I’m just like, trying to go a little bit higher and it was awkward. I went back and watched it later, and he sounded completely normal and I looked like I was dead on the road. It was weird.

Brandon Fischer, I don’t know if he’s still in the audience, but we did…Brandon’s back here. So four years ago when Clickfunnels first came out we made these videos that when you first signed up we gave away a free t-shirt. How many of you guys remember seeing those videos? I made those videos and then they lasted for like four years, and then we just reshot them last week because it’s like, “Oh wow, the demo video when we’re showing CLickfunnels does not look like Clickfunnels anymore. It’s completely changed in four years.” So Todd’s like, “You have to make a new video.” I’m like, “I don’t want to make a video.’

So finally we made the new videos, recorded them and got them up there and we posted them online, and before we posted them on, I went and watched the old ones, and I watched the old ones and I was like, “Oh my gosh, this is just four years ago, I am so depressing. How did anybody watch this video?” It was bad, right Brandon. It was like painfully bad. I was like, “oh my gosh.” That was just four years ago. Imagine six years ago, or ten years. It was really, really bad. And when I notice the more energy you have, the more energy everyone else has.

It seems weird at first, but always stretch more than you feel comfortable, and it seems normal, and then you’ll feel better with it and better with it. But what’s interesting about humans is we are attracted to energy. I used to hate people talking energy talk, because I thought it was like the nerdy woo-woo crap. But it’s so weird and real actually.

I notice this in all aspects of my life. When I come home at night, usually I am beat up and tired and worn out. I get up early in the morning, and then I work super hard, I get home and I get out of the car and I come to the door and before I open the door, I’m always like, Okay if I come in like, ugh, my whole family is going to be depressed with me.” They’ll all lower to my energy level. So I sit there and I get into state and I’m like, okay, whew. I open the door and I’m like, “What’s up guys!! I’m home!” and all the sudden my kids are like, “Oh dad’s home!” and they start running in, it’s this huge thing, it’s crazy, and then the tone is set, everyone’s energy is high and the rest of the night’s amazing.

When I come in the office, I walk in and realize I’m the leader of this office and if I come in like, “Hey guys, what’s up? Hey Nic, what’s up?” Then everyone’s going to be like {sound effect}. So I’m like, okay when I come in I have to come in here, otherwise everyone is going to be down on a normal level. I have to bring people up. So we walk in the office now and I’m like, “What’s up everybody, how’s it going?” and I’m excited and they’re like, “Oh.” And everyone’s energy rises and the whole company grows together.

So l love when Dave walks through the door, have you guys ever noticed this? When Dave walks through the door, I’m at a 10, Dave’s like at a 32 and it’s just like, he wakes up and comes over to my  house at 4:30 in the morning to lift weights. I sleep in an hour later, and I come in at 5:45 or something, and I walk in and I’m just like, “I want to die.” And I walk in and he’s like, “Hey how’s it going?.” I’m like, “Really good man. You’ve been here for an hour.” And all the sudden I’m like, oh my gosh I feel better. Instantly raised up.

It’s kind of like tuning forks. Have you noticed this? If you get two tuning forks at different things and you wack one, and you wack the other one, and you bring them close together, what will happen is the waves will increase and they end up going at the exact same level. So energy matters. The higher your energy, the higher everyone else around you will be, on video, on audio, on face…everything, energy matters a lot. So that’s number two, when you’re making videos, thinking about that.

Alright number three, okay this, you were like 90% there and I watched the whole thing and I was so excited and then you missed the last piece and I was like, “Oh it was so good.” So a year after that Facebook message came, you did a Facebook live one year later to the day, and he told that story on Facebook live. And I was like, “Oh my gosh this is amazing.” And he told that story, and he was talking about it, and I was emotional, going through the whole thing again. This is so cool, this is so cool. And he told the story about the podcast, and this podcast was an hour long, and the thing and his life changed and all this stuff…

And I know that me and a whole bunch of you guys, a whole bunch of entrepreneurs listened to this story and they’re at bated breath, “This is amazing, this is amazing.” And he gets to the very end, “Alright guys, see you tomorrow.” Boom, clicks off. And I was like, “Aaahhh!” How can you leave me in that state?  I need something, I need something.

So the note here is I said, make offers for everything. Think about this, at the end when you ended, and everyone’s thinking, I want to hear that episode, where is that? How would it be? Now imagine you take the opportunity at the very end that says, “How many of you guys would like to hear that episode where Russell actually made me a personal podcast? And how many of you guys would actually like if I gave you my commentary about what  I learned and why it was actually important to me? All you gotta do right now is post down below and write ‘I’m in.’ and I’ll add you to my messenger list and I’ll send you that podcast along with the recording where I actually told you what this meant to me.” Boom, now all those people listening are now on his list. Or they can even go opt in somewhere.

But all you did was tell the story and everything and we were all sitting with bated breath and I was just like, at the end make the offer. You guys want the stuff I talked about, you want the thing? You want the thing? And then you send them somewhere and now you captured them and consider them longer term and you can do more things with them.

It was like, hook, story, dude where’s my offer? Give me something. But it was awesome. How many of you guys felt that way when you listened to that thing and you’re just like, “I don’t even know where to find that episode. Russell’s got eight thousand episodes everywhere, I don’t even know where to look for it.” You could have been like, here’s the link.

Just the link….if you guys can’t figure out how to make an offer, go listen to a whole bunch of stuff, find something amazing and be like, “oh my gosh you guys, I was listening to this Tim Ferris podcast, he did like 800 episodes, every one is like 18 hours long, they’re really hard to listen to, but I found this one from 3 ½-4 years ago where he taught this concept and it was insane. It was amazing; I learned this and this. How many of you want to know what that is? Okay, I have the link, if you message me down below I’ll send you the link to exactly where to find that episode.” Everyone will give it to you. 

You’ll be like, “But it’s free on the internet Russell.” It doesn’t matter. You know where it’s at and they don’t. They will give you their contact information in exchange for you giving them a direct link to the link.

Back before I had anything to give away for opt ins, guess what I used to do. I used to go to YouTube and I would find cool videos from famous people. One of my favorite ones we did was I went and typed in YouTube, “Robert Kiyosaki” because he was one of my big mentors at the time. And there was all these amazing Robert Kiyosaki videos on YouTube for free. Tons of them. Hour long training from Robert Kiyosaki. Four hour long event from Robert Kiyosaki. All this stuff for free listed in YouTube. So I made a little Clickfunnels membership site, I got all the free videos and put them inside a members area and just like, “Tab one, Robert Kiyosaki talking about investing, Robert Kiyosaki talking about stocks, Robert Kiyosaki talking….”

 And I just put all the videos in there and made a squeeze page like, “Hey, who wants a whole bunch of free, my favorite Robert Kiyosaki videos?” and I made a little landing page, people opt in, I give them access to the membership site, and then I went and targeted Robert Kiyosaki’s audience and built a huge list off his people. Dream 100.

Imagine with Dream 100 instead of doing just one campaign to all the people, if each person in your dream 100 you made a customized membership site with the free content right now, be like, “Hey, you’ve listened to a lot of Grant Cardone, he’s got four podcasts, 5000 episodes, there’s only four that are actually really, really good. Do you guys want to know what they are? Opt in here, I’ll give you the four best episodes of all. I currated all these for you to give you the four best.” And target Grant’s audience with that, now you got all his buyers coming into your world. Is that alright, is that good.

Alright number four ties along with this. Number four, start building a list ASAP. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you do a call to action to get a list anywhere, have I? After today’s session you’re …..just build a list. If you got nothing from this event at all, every time you do a hook and story, put them somewhere to build a list, because that’s the longevity. Because that’s where if Zuckerberg snaps his finger and you lose all your fans and followings and friends, and all the sudden you’re trying to build over somewhere else, it won’t matter because you’ll have those people somewhere external and now you can message them and bring them back into whatever world you need them to be at.

But that’s how you build stability in business. It’s also how you sell this time, you want to sell it the next time and the next time, the list is the key. Funnel Hacking Live, the first Funnel Hacking Live it was a lot of work and we sold out 600 people in the room, and we kept growing the list and growing the list, the next year we did 1200. Then we did 1500, last year was 3000, this year we’re going to be at 5000. We’re building up the list and building up pressure and excitement and then when you release it, it gives you the ability to blow things up really, really fast.  Okay, that was number four.

Okay number five, I wrote down integration marketing, adding to other’s offers to build a buyer list. So this is a little sneaky tactic we used to back in the day when I didn’t have my own list, but I had a couple of skills and talents which you do happen to have, which is nice. If you have no skills this won’t work, but if you have skills you’re lucky.

So Frank Kern used to do this as well. Frank is sneaky. He used to do this all the time and I saw him doing it and I’m like, “Oh my gosh, he’s brilliant.” So Frank did a one hour presentation somewhere and he called it Mind Control, it wasn’t Mass Control, but it was something like about how to control the minds of your prospects through manipulation and something sneaky. And the title alone was amazing. It was a one hour presentation he gave somewhere.

And he put it on these DVDs and what he did, he went to like Dan Kennedy and he’s like, “Hey Dan, you have all of your buyer and you send them this newsletter every single month,” at the time they had 13000 active members, these were their best buyers. He’s like, “This DVD I sell for like a thousand bucks. Do you want to give it to all your people for free?” And Dan’s like, “sure.”

And all the sudden the next month, Franks got his best CD with his best stuff in the mailbox of the 13000 best customers, every single person that Dan Kennedy’s been collecting for the last 15 years. So think about this. With your skill set, look at the other people in the market, all the dream 100 who are doing things and how do you create something you can plug into their offers, and every single time one of those people sell a product, your face is popping up as well.

It’s called integration marketing, my first mentor Mark Joyner wrote a book called Integration Marketing, it’s a really fast read. You can read it in an hour, but it will get your mind set thinking about it. How can I integrate with what other people are always doing? Because I can go and make a sell, and make another sell, but I was like, when we launched Clickfunnels I was like, “How can I figure out other people’s sales processes that are already happening and somehow inject myself into all these other sales processes?” That way every single time Steven Larsen sells something or someone else sells something, or all these people are selling something, it always somehow gets flown back to me.

I want every product, every course, everything happening in the internet marketing world to somehow have people saying my name. That’s my goal. How many of you guy have been to other people’s events and I’m not there and they say my name? It makes me so happy. I get the instagrams from some of you guys, “Hey so and so just said your name.” I’m like, that’s so good. How have I done that? I spent a lot of my life integrating into everybody’s offers.

Initially when I first got started, every single person who had a product, I was an interview in everyone’s product. I was like, looking at people launching a product, specific product launches coming, I’d contact them. Product launch is coming up, “Hey man, is there any way I could do a cool thing for your people? I could create this and give it to you and you could plug it into your product?” and everyone’s like, ‘Sure, that’d be awesome.” And all the sudden, boom, they get 5000 new buyers came in and every single one of them got my thing. They’re hearing my name, hearing my voice and it’s just constant integration.

I think about how I met Joe Vitale, I talked about that earlier with the greatest showman. He was in an interview in a course I bought from Mark Joyner, I listened to it, fell in love with Joe Vitale, bought his stuff, given him tons of money over the years, a whole bunch of good stuff because he was integrated in that.

So looking at other ways to integrate, the skill set that you already have into other people’s marketing channels because then you’re leveraging anytime any of these partners make a sell, you’re getting customers coming through that flow as well. Cool?

Nic: Yeah.

Russell: That was number five. Number six, I call this one rainmaker projects, because we talked about rainmaker during the first podcast interview. So rainmaker projects are, and again when I first started my career I did tons of these, where it’s like, I was really good at one piece.

For you, you’re really good at video and story telling. And I look out here and be like, okay who is someone else here that is awesome? So and so is really good at making a product on Facebook ads. “You’re really good at Facebook ads, so I’ll do the video for this course, you do the Facebook, you do the actual ads for us.”

And then, you’re awesome at doing the traffic and you bring in four or five people, like this little avenger team, and you create a cobranded product together and you launch it and everyone makes a bunch of money, split all the money, 50/50/50/50, that makes more than 100,but you know what I’m talking about, everyone splits the money, everyone splits the customer list and all the sudden you’ve all pulled your efforts, your energy, your talents together and everyone leaves with some cash, and you also leave with the customer list, and that’s when you start growing really, really rapidly.

When I started I didn’t have a customer list, I had a very small one. But I had a couple of skill sets so that’s why I did tons of these things. That’s like, if you guys know any of my old friends like Mike Filsaime, Gary Ambrose, I could list off all the old partners we had back in the day, and that’s what we did all the time, these little rainmaker projects. We didn’t call them that back in the day, but that’s what it was.

It was just like, we all knew what our skill sets were, and it’s like, let’s come together, let’s make a project. This isn’t going to be how we change the world, it’s not going to be something we’re going to scale and grow, but it’s like, it’s going to be a project, we put it together, we launch it, make some money, get some customers, get our name out in the market, and then we step away from it and then we all go back to our own businesses.

It’s not like, that’s why it’s funny because a lot of times people are scared of these. Like, “Well, how do we set up the business structure? Who’s going to be the owner? Who’s the boss?” No, none of that. This is an in and out project where all the rainmakers come together and you create something amazing for a short period of time, you split the money and you go back home with the money and the customers.

But it gave you a bump in status, a big bump in customer lists, a big bump in cash and then all those things kind of rise and if you do enough of those your status keeps growing and growing and growing, and it’s a really fast easy way to continue to grow. How many of you guys want to do a rainmaker project with Nic right now? Alright, very, very cool.

Alright, and then I got one last, this is number seven. This kind of ties back to dream 100. The last thing I talked about was, and again this is kind of for everyone in the group, is the levels of the dream 100. I remember when I first started this process, I first got the concept and I didn’t know it was the dream 100 back then, but I was looking at all the different people that would have been on my dream 100 list. It was Mark Joyner, Joe Vitale, all these people that for me were top tier. Tony Robbins, Richard Branson, and I was like, oh, and I started trying to figure out how to get in those spots. And the more I tried, it was so hard to get through the gatekeeper, it was impossible to get through all these gatekeepers, these people.

I was like, “Man don’t people care about me. I’m just a young guy trying to figure this stuff out and they won’t even respond to my calls or my emails. I can’t even get through, I thought these people really cared.” Now to be on the flip side of that, I didn’t realize what life is actually like for that, for people like that. For me, I understand that now at a whole other level. We’ve got a million and a half people on our subscriber list. We have 68000 customers, we’ve got coaching programs, got family, got friends. We have to put up barriers to protect yourself or it’s impossible.

I felt, I can’t even tell you how bad I feel having Brent this morning, “Can you tell everyone to not do pictures with me.” It’s not that I don’t want to, but do you want me to tell you what actually happens typically? This is why we have to put barriers around ourselves. Here’s my phone, I’ll be in a room, like Funnel Hacking Live and there will be 3000 people in the room, and I’m walking through and someone’s like, “Real quick, real quick, can I get a picture?” I’m like, “I gotta go.” And they’re like, “It’ll take one second.” And I’m like, ahh, “Okay, fine, quick.” And they’re like, “Hold on.” And they get their phone out and they’re like, “Uh, uh, okay, uh, alright got it. Crap it’s flipped around. Okay, actually can you hold this, my arms not long enough can you hold it? Actually, hey you come here real quick, can you hold this so we can get a picture? Okay ready, one two three cheese.” And they grab the camera and they’re off. And for them it took one second. And that person leaves, and guess what’s behind them? A line of like 500 people.

And then for the next like 8 hours, the first Funnel Hacking Live, was anyone here at the first Funnel Hacking Live? I spent 3 ½ hours up front doing pictures with everybody and I almost died afterwards. I’m like, I can’t…but I didn’t know how to say no, it was super, super hard.

So I realize now, to protect your sanity, people up there have all sorts of gatekeepers and it’s hard. So the way you get through is not being more annoying, and trying to get through people. The way you get to them is by understanding the levels of that. So I tried a whole bunch of times, and I couldn’t get in so I was like, “Crap, screw those guys. They don’t like me anyway, they must be jerks, I’m sure they’re just avoiding me and I’m on a blacklist….” All the thoughts that go through your head.

And at that time, I started looking around me. I started looking around and I was like, “hey, there’s some really cool people here.” And that’s when I met, I remember Mike Filsaime, Mike Filsaime at the time had just created a product he launched and he had like a list of, I don’t know, maybe 3 or 4 thousand people. And I remember I created my first product, Zipbrander, and I was all scared and I’m like ,”Hey Mike, I created this thing Zipbrander.” And he messaged back, “Dude that’s the coolest thing in the world.”

A couple of things, Mike didn’t have a gatekeeper, it was just him. He got my email, he saw it, and he was like, “This is actually cool.” I’m like, “Cool, do you want to promote it?” and he’s like, “Yes, I would love to promote it.” I’m like, oh my gosh. I had never made a sale online at this point, by the way, other than a couple of little things that fell apart. I never actually made a sale of my own product.

Zipbrander was my very first, my own product that I ever created. So Mike was that cool, he sent an email to his list, his 5000 person list, they came over, I had this little pop up that came to the site and bounced around, back in the day. I had 270 people opt in to my list from Mike’s email to it, and I think we made like 8 or 10 sales, which wasn’t a lot, but 67 that’s $670, they gave me half, I made $350 on an email and gained 300 people on my list. I’m like, oh my gosh this is amazing.

And I asked Mike, “Who are the other people you hang out with? I don’t know very many people.” And he’s like, “Oh dude, you gotta meet this guy, he’s awesome.” And he brought me to someone else, and I’m like, “Oh this is cool. “ and Mike’s like, “Dude, I promoted Zipbrander, it was awesome, you should promote it.” And then he’s like, “Oh cool.” And he promoted Zipbrander. I’m like, oh my gosh, I got another 30-40 people on my list and there were a couple more sales.

And then I asked him, “Who do you know?” and there was someone else, and we stared doing this thing and all the sudden there were 8 or 10 of us who were all at this level and we all started masterminding, networking, figuring things out, cross promote each other and what happened, what’s interesting is that all of our little brands that were small at the time started growing, and they started growing, and they started growing. All the sudden we were at the next tier.

And when we got to the next tier all the sudden all these new people started being aware of us and started answering our calls and doing things, and Mike’s like, ‘Oh my gosh, I met this guy who used to be untouchable.” And he brought him in and brought them in and all the sudden we’re at the next level. And we started growing again and growing again.

And the next thing we know, four years later I get a phone call from Tony Robbins assistant, they’re like, “Hey I’m sitting in a room and I got Mike Filsaime, Frank Kern, Jeff Walker, all these guys are sitting in a room with Tony Robbins and he thinks that you guys are the biggest internet nerds in the world, he’s obsessed with it and he wants to know if he can meet you in Salt Lake in like an hour.”

What? Tony Robbins? I’ve emailed him 8000 times, he’s never responded even once, I thought he hated me. Not that he hated me, it’s that he had so many gatekeepers, he had no idea who I was. But eventually you start getting value and you collectively as a level of the dream 100 becomes more and more powerful. Eventually people notice you because you become the bigger people. And each tier gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

So my biggest advice for you and for everybody is understanding that. Yes, it’s good to have these huge dreams and big people, but start looking around. There are so many partnerships to be had just inside this room. How many deals have you done with people in this room so far?

Nic: Quite a few.

Russell: More than one, right.

Nic: Yeah, more than one.

Russell: Start looking around you guys. Don’t always look up, up, up and try to get this thing. Look around and realize collectively, man, start doing the crossings because that’s how everyone starts growing together and there will be a time where I’ll be coming to you guys begging, “Can you please look at my stuff you guys, I have this thing called Clickfunnels. You may have heard of it. Can you please help me promote it?” And that’s what’s going to happen, okay.

So the level of the dream 100 is the last thing, just don’t discount that. Because so many people are like swinging for the fence and just hoping for this homerun like I was, and it’s funny because I remember eventually people would respond to me, that I was trying for before, and they’d contact me. And I was like, oh my gosh. I realized, I thought this person hated me, I thought I was on a black list. I was assuming they were getting these emails and like, “oh, I hate this. Russell’s a scammer.” In my head right. They never saw any of them.

Until they saw me, and they reached out to me and the whole dynamic shifted. So realizing that, kind of looking around and start building your dream 100 list, even within this room, within the communities that you’re in, because there’s power in that. And as you grow collectively, as a group, everyone will grow together, and that’s the magic. So that was number seven.

So to recap the seven really quick. Number one, tell your story way too much, to the point where you’re so annoyed and so sick and tired of hearing it that everybody comes to you, and then keep telling it even some more.

Number two, in everything you’re doing, energy matters a lot. To the point, even above what you think you’re comfortable with and do that all the time.

Number three, make offers for everything. Hook, story, don’t leave them hanging, give them an offer because they’ll go and they will feel more completed afterwards.

Number four, start building a list, it ties back to the first thing. Make an offer, get them to build your list, start growing your list because your list is your actual business.

Number five, integration marketing. Look for other people’s marketing channels and how you can weave what you do into those channels, so you can get free traffic from all the people who are doing stuff.

Number five, create rainmaker projects, find really cool things and bring four or five people together and make something amazing. Share the cash, share the customer list, elevate your status, elevate your brand, and it’s really fun to do because you get to know a whole bunch of people.

And Number seven, understanding the levels of the dream 100. Find the people at your level and start growing with them together collectively as you do that, and in a year, two years, three years, five years Tony Robbins will be calling you, asking you to make his video and it will be amazing.

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]]> 2039 no My Conversation With The Friendly Giant - Part 1 of 2 (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-1-of-2-revisited Replay of a special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson and I want to welcome you to the Marketing Secrets podcast. The next two episodes are a really special one. For our Two Comma club X members and our inner circle members I did an event recently, some of you guys heard me talk about it. It was a traffic secrets event, where I’m getting all the material ready for the book. And the night before when I was doing all the prep work I had this thought. I was like, I want to bring up somebody on stage and it’s somebody who was a friend I grew up with in elementary school, and junior high, and high school, someone who was down on their luck, who was really, really struggling. About a year ago I saw him post something on Facebook and I reached out, and this interview is happening about a year later. He tells his story about what happened and the transformation and the change that’s happened by being involved inside our Clickfunnels, Funnel Hacker community. So I wanted to share that with you as part of the event, so this first half is going to be Nic kind of telling his story and it’s going to be the story from the bottom of the barrel where they were, they literally made $25,000 a year for 3 years in a row and then the transformation to this year, they’ll do well over six figures. And that’s going to be this first podcast. And the second podcast episode is, I did a live coaching session with him on stage, and I want to share that with you as well because I think there’s a lot of things for you specifically that you can get from this episode too. So the next few episodes are going to be sharing this really fun conversation that happened late night at the Traffic Secrets event with my friend Nic Fitzgerald, and if you think that name sounds familiar, I have talked about him before on this podcast. In fact, a little over a year ago I did a podcast episode called “Being a Rainmaker” that was a personalized podcast that I sent to Nic specifically to help him with what he was struggling with at the time. So anyway, I wanted to share this with you because it will take you full circle to show you kind of the progress and the momentum and things that are happening in his life, and I think it will be encouraging for you to hear the story because no matter where you are in your journey right now, if you are struggling, doing well, or if you’re somewhere in between, there are parts of this story that will resonate with you. And in the second episode where I coach Nic I think will help everybody as well. So with that said, let’s jump right in and have some fun. I want to introduce you to my friend Nic Fitzgerald. Alright so I want to set the tone for the next hour or so of what the game plan is. So I have a first initial question that I’m curious about with everyone here. I’m curious, who since they joined the Two Comma Club X program has had some kind of experience with Mr. Nic Fitzgerald? That’s powerful, I’m going to talk about why in a little bit, but very, very cool. So some of the back story behind this, and then we’re going to introduce him up, and when he comes up I want you guys to go crazy and scream and cheer and clap, because it will be good, and then I want him to sit down so we’ll be the same height, which will be good, it’ll be fun. So some of the back story, I actually met Nic the very first time in elementary school, and even in elementary school he was a foot and a half taller than me, which is amazing. He was like 6 ft 2 in like third grade, it was amazing. But we knew each other when we were dorky little kids and going up through elementary school we were both doing our things, and we didn’t have a care in the world and everything’s happening. And as we got older he kept getting taller, I stopped growing. And then we got into high school and he kept growing and he joined the basketball team. I didn’t keep growing so I went downstairs in the basement, literally, at our high school in the basement they call it the rubber room, and it’s this room that smells like, I don’t even know, but it’s under the gym. So he would go upstairs and fans would show up and people would cheer for them, and scream at their games. And all the girls would come to the games. And we’d go down in the rubber room by ourselves and cut weight and put on our sweats and lose weight and we’d jump rope and sweat like crazy. And we’d sit there, and I remember one day after working out for two hours pouring in sweat, I had my plastic gear on and my sweats on top of that, my hoodie and my hoods and we got the wrestling mats, and literally rolled ourselves up in the wrestling mats to keep the heat in, and we laid there and we were so hot. And I could hear the basketball players in the gym up above having so much fun and people cheering for them. And all the girls were there. And I was like, “Why are we not playing basketball?” It doesn’t make any sense. But during that time, obviously we were in two different kind of worlds, and we didn’t really connect that much, and then we left our separate ways. And I didn’t hear from him for years and years and years. And then do you guys remember Facebook when it first came out? The first time you got it and you log in and you’re like, “Oh my gosh, I can connect with people.” And you start searching the friends you know and then you find their friends and you spend a day and a half connecting with every person you’ve ever remembered seeing in your entire life? Do you guys remember that? So I did that one night, I connected with everybody. Everyone in high school, everyone in junior high, or elementary, everyone in every stage of my life, as many as I could think of. And then I was like, I think that’s everybody. Okay, I’ve connected with everybody. And one of those people that night was Nic. And then, but I didn’t say hi, I just friend requested and he requested back and I’m like, cool we’re connected. And then after that I got kind of bored with Facebook for like a year or so. Then a little while later I found out you can buy ads on it and I was like, what, this is amazing. So we started buying ads and everything is happening. And it’s crazy. And then what happened next, I actually want Nic onstage to tell you this story because I want you to hear it from both his perspective and my perspective, I think it’d be kind of interesting. So let’s do this real quick. As you guys know Nic has been a super valuable part of this community since he came in. I’m going to tell the story about how he got here and some of the craziness of how he signed up when he probably shouldn’t have and what’s been happening since then, because I know that you guys have all been part of that journey and been supporting him. How many of you guys are going to his event that’s happening later this week? He just keeps giving and serving, he’s doing all the right things, he’s telling his story, he’s doing some amazing stuff. So my plan now is I want to talk about the rest of the story. I want to tell you guys what I told him a year ago and then I want to tell you guys my advice for him moving forward, because I feel like it’s almost in proxy. I wish I could do that with every one of you guys. Just sit down here and coach you. But I feel like he’s at a stage where some of you guys aren’t to where he’s at yet and some of you are past that, and some of you guys are right where he’s at, and I feel like the advice that I really want to give him, will help you guys at all different levels. So that’s kind of the game plan. So with that said, let’s stand up and point our hands together for Mr. Nic Fitzgerald. Look how tall I am. I feel like….okay, so I had him find this post because I wanted to actually share a little piece of it. So this, I’m going to share a piece of it, I want to step back to where you were at that time in your life. So this was July 7, 2017, so what was that a year and a half ago, ish? So July 7, 2017 there was a post that said, “Long post disclaimer. I hate posting this, blah, blah, blah.” So at the time my family was about to go on a family vacation. We’re packing up the bags and everything, and you know how it is, you do a bunch of work and then you stop for a second and your wife and kids are gone and you’re like, pull out the phone, swap through the dream 100 and see what’s happening.  And somehow this post pops up in my feed and I see it, I see Nic my buddy from 20+ years ago and I’m reading this thing and my heart sinks for him. Some of the things he says, “I hate posting things like this, but I felt like need to for a while. Being poor stinks. For those friends of mine who are ultra conservative and look down consciously or not, on people like me, I can honestly tell you that I’m not a lazy free loader who wants something for nothing. I’m not a deadbeat who wants Obama or whoever to blame now, to buy me a phone. I’m not a lowlife trying to get the government to pay for my liposuction. I’m not a druggie who eats steak and lobster for dinner with my food stamps. I’m a father of four, a husband, someone who lost everything financially, including our home when the time came to have your healthcare in place or to get fined, I went through the process. “Based on my family size and income, we were referred to the state to apply for those programs. We couldn’t get coverage for ourselves to the exchange in other places, we qualified for Medicaid. After the process was complete, the state worker suggested we try to get some other help, some food stamps.” It kind of goes on and on and on and he says, “In 2016 I made $25000. $25,000 plus our tax returns for the previous year. So a family of 6 living on $25,000 a year is being audited for receiving too much help, too much assistance.” And it kind of goes on and on and on with that. He says, “I’ve never abused drugs or alcohol, I’ve never even tried them. I’m just a guy trying to live the American dream and provide for his family. It’s unfortunate that we look down on those who are trying to better our lives, even if it leaves them from receiving help from assistance in place to help them. Look down on me if you want, I don’t care. I know the truth. My family is healthy and sheltered and that’s all that matters. I don’t wish these trials on anyone else…” and it kind of goes on from there. So I want to take you back to that moment, what was, talk about what you were experiencing and what you were going through during that time. Nic: I didn’t expect this. I’m a friendly giant, but I’m a big boob too. Back at that time, I had started what I thought was, I started my entrepreneurial journey. I was working in film full time, working 12, 14, 16 hour days making $200 a day, just killing myself for my family. Going through the process of, I’d lost my job because I wasn’t going to hit my sales, I was a financial advisor, and I wasn’t going to hit my sales numbers. So you know, my ticket was stamped. So I said okay, I’m going to do my own thing. And in the course of all that, it was time to get your health insurance and those things, and I went through the proper channels, like I felt like I should. And I was referred to the government for the programs, based on the numbers. And as a provider, a father, an athlete competitor, I felt like a failure. We’ve all, when you have to rely on somebody else , or somebody else tells you, “Hey, we don’t think you can do this on your own, come over here and we’ll take care of you.” That’s basically what I was told. So it was hard to accept that and to live with that reality. So we did, and I worked hard and it was a blessing really, to not have to worry about how much health care costs or have some of the things to supplement to feed our family and stuff. So it was great and it was wonderful. But then I got the email from the state saying, “Hey, you’re being audited. We’re just looking at things and we’re not sure. You’ve been getting too much help.” So at that point I’m just sitting there frustrated because I’m working my butt off, just trying to make things happen, become someone involved in the film community in Utah. And I was, and everyone knew me, and I had a reputation, but I still was a nobody in the eyes of the government. So I went to Facebook to whine, looking for what I wanted, which was a pat on the back, “There, there Nic, you’re doing…we know you’re a good dude and you’re working hard.” That kind of thing, and I did… Russell: I was reading the comments last night. “Oh you’re doing a good job man. Good luck.” Everyone like babying him about how tough life can be. Nic: So I got what I wanted, but it still didn’t change anything. I still had to submit my last two years of tax returns and all of the pay that I’d got and everything like that, so they could look at our case number, not Nic, Leisle, Cloe,Ewen, Alek, William. So it was just one of those things. I got what I wanted, then comes Russell to give me what I needed, which was…. Russell: I saw that and I’m like packing the kids bags and everything and I was like, “ah, do I say something?” I don’t want to be that guy like, “Hey, 20 years ago…” and I was like, ah, I kept feeling this. Finally I was like, “hey man, I know we haven’t talked in over 20 years…” This was on Facebook messenger, “we hadn’t talked in like 20 years. I saw your post today and it sucks. And I know what’s wrong, and I can help. But at the same time, I don’t want to be that guy and I don’t want to step on any toes. I know we haven’t talked in 20 years, I have no idea if this is even appropriate. But I know what’s wrong, I can help you. And no, this is not some cheesy MLM I’m trying to pitch you on. But if you’re interested in some coaching, I know what’s wrong.” And I kind of waited and then I started packing the bags again and stuff like that. I’m curious of your thoughts initially as you saw that. Nic: It’s funny because my phone was kind of blowing up with the comments. So I would hear the little ding and I would check. And then I saw that it was a message from Russell, and we had said like, “Hey, what’s up.” And had a few tiny little small talk conversations, but nothing in depth personal. So I saw that he sent a message, so I’m like, “Sweet.” So I look at it, and I was half expecting, because I knew he was successful, I didn’t know about Clickfunnels per se. I knew he had something going on that was awesome, but I didn’t know what it was. So I was wondering, “I wonder what he’s going to say, what he has to say about things?” But I read it and it was funny because when you said, “I don’t want to overstep my bounds. It’s been a long time, I don’t want to step on toes.” Kind of thing, Russell, we all know his athletic accolades and stuff. I was a great basketball player too, I was in the top 200 players in the country my senior year and stuff like that. So I’ve been coachable and played at high levels and been coached by high level guys. So when I read it and he said, “I know what’s wrong and I can help you.” I was just like, “Yes.” That was my reaction. I just did the little, um, fist pump, let’s do this. So I replied back and I thanked him for reaching out and stuff, and I just said, I think I even said, “I’m coachable. I will accept any guidance.” And things like that. Because up until that point in my life, especially in sports, if a coach showed me something, I would do it the way he did, and I would kick the other dude’s butt. I didn’t care. I played against guys who made millions of dollars in the NBA. I dunked, I posterized on Shawn Marion when he was at UNLV my freshman year of college. I started as a freshman in a division one school in college. So I would take, I’ve always been that kind of, I would get that guidance, that direction, I can put it to work. So I was just like, “Dude, Mr. Miyagi me.” I’m 8 days older than him, so I’m like, “young grasshopper, yes you can teach me.” That kind of thing. So I welcomed it and I was excited. I had no idea, because again I didn’t know what he did. I just knew he had a level of success that I didn’t have. And if he was willing to give me some ideas, I was going to hear him out for sure. Russell: It was fun, because then I messaged him back. I’m packing the car and Collette’s like, “We gotta go, we gotta go.” I was like, ah, so I get the thing out and I was like, “This is the deal. I’m driving to Bear Lake, it’s like a six hour drive. I’m going to give you an assignment and if you do it, then I’ll give you the next piece. But most people never do it, so if you don’t that’s cool and I’ll just know it’s not worth your time. But if it’s really worth your time, do this thing. I need you to go back and listen to my podcast from episode one and listen to as many episodes as possible, and if you do that I’ll make you a customized episode just for you telling you exactly what’s wrong and how to fix it. But you have to do that first. “And I’m not telling you this because I’m on some ego trip, but just trust me. The problem is not your skill set, you  have mad skills, you’re good at everything. It’s all a problem between your ears. If we can shift that, we can shift everything else.” Then I jumped in my car and took off and started driving for six hours. And then the next day, or a day later you’re like, “I’m 14 episodes in.” he was still listening to the crappy one’s, according to Steven Larsen. The Marketing In Your Car, he was probably thinking, “This is the worst thing I’ve ever heard, ever.” But he did it. I said do it, he did it. And he kept doing it and doing it, and so two days into my family vacation I had Norah, you guys all know Norah right. She’s the coolest. But she won’t go to bed at night, she’s a nightmare. Don’t let that cute face trick you, she’s evil. So I’m like, I can’t go to sleep, so finally I was like, I’m going to plug her in the car and drive around the lake until she falls asleep. So I plug her in the car, strap her in and I start driving. And I’m like, this could be a long, long thing. She’s just smiling back here. I was like ugh. I’m like you know what, I’m going to do my episode for Nic. So I got my phone out, I clicked record and for probably almost an hour, it was an hour. I’m driving around the lake and I explain to him what I see. Did anyone here listen to that episode? I’m curious. I’m going to map out really quick, the core concept. Because some of you guys may be stuck in this, and the goal of this, what I want to do is I want to map this out, and then what’s funny is last year at Bear Lake, so a year later we had this thing where I was like, we should do a second round where I do a year later, this is the advice now. And I wrote a whole outline for it and I totally never did it. So I’m going to go through that outline now, and kind of show him the next phase. So you cool if I show kind of what I talked about? Nic: For sure. Russell: Alright, so those who missed the podcast episode, who haven’t been binge listening, you’ve all failed the test, now you must go back to episode number one, listen to the cheesy jingle and get to episode, I don’t know what it was. Okay, I’ve said this before, if you look at any business, any organization, there’s three core people. The first one is the person at the top who is the entrepreneur. The cool thing about the entrepreneur is the entrepreneur is the person who makes the most amount of money. They’re the head and they get the most amount of money. The problem with the entrepreneur is they also have the most risk, so they’re most likely to lose everything. I’ve lost everything multiple times because I’m the guy risking everything. But the nice thing is entrepreneurs that write their own paychecks, there’s no ceilings. So they can make as much as they want. They can make a million, ten million, a hundred million, they can do whatever they want because there’s no ceiling. So that’s the first personality type. The second personality type over here is what we call the technicians. The technicians are the people who actually do the work. And what’s funny, if you look at this, people who go to college are the technicians. What do they do, they look down on entrepreneurs, they look down on sales people. “Oh you’re in sales. What are you a doctor?” For crying out loud in the night. But they look down on people like us. Because “I’m a doctor. I went to 45 years of school.” What’s interesting, there’s technicians in all sorts of different spots right. I actually feel bad, I shouldn’t say this out loud, but at the airport here I saw one of my friends who is an amazing doctor and him and his wife were leaving on a trip and we were talking and he said, “This is the first trip my wife and I have been on in 25 years, together by ourselves.” I’m like, “What?” and he’s like, ‘Well, we had medical school and then we had kids and then we had to pay off medical school and all these things. Now the kids are gone and now we finally have a chance to leave.” I was like, wow. Our whole lives we’ve heard that medical school, becoming a doctor is the…..anyway that’s a rant for another day. But I was like, there’s technicians. And what’s interesting about technicians, they don’t have any risk. So there’s no risk whatsoever, but they do have, there’s a price ceiling on every single person that’s a technician, right. And depending on what job you have your price ceiling is different. So doctors, the price ceiling is, I have no idea what doctor’s make, $500 grand a year is like the price ceiling, that’s amazing but they can’t go above that. And different tasks, different roles, different position all have different price ceilings. But there’s like, this role as a technician makes this much, and this one makes this much and you’re all kind of these things. I said the problem with you right now, you have these amazing skill sets, but you are stuck as a technician in a role where they’re capping you out, where the only thing you can make is $25k a year. Remember I asked you, “What have you been doing?” and you’re like, “Oh, I’ve been networking, I’ve been learning, I’ve been getting my skills up, getting amazing.” I’m like, “That’s amazing, you’re skills are awesome, but your ceiling is $25k a year. No matter how good you get you are stuck because you’re in a technician role right now.” I said, “you’ve got a couple of options. One is go become an entrepreneur, which is scary because you’ve got four kids at home and you don’t have money anyway.” I am so eternally grateful that when I started this game, my wife, first off, we didn’t have kids yet, my wife was working, we didn’t have any money but I didn’t have to have any money at that time, and I’m so grateful I was able to sometimes, I was able to risk things that nowadays is hard. For you to come jump out on your own initially and just be like, “Boom, I’m an entrepreneur and I’m selling this stuff.” That’s scary right, because you’ve got all this risk. So I was like, that’s the thing, but it’s going to be really, really hard. I said, “there’s good news, there’s one more spot in this ecosystem. And the cool thing about that spot it’s that it’s just like the entrepreneur, there’s no ceiling, now the third spot over here is what we call the rainmakers. The rainmakers are the people who come into a business and they know how to make it rain. This is the people who know how to bring people into a company. Leads, they bring leads in. They know all this traffic stuff they’re talking about. These are the people who know how to sell to leads and actually get money out of peoples wallets and put it into the hands of the entrepreneurs. These people right here, the rainmakers don’t  have ceilings. In fact, companies who give the rainmaker the ceiling are the stupidest people in the world, because the rainmaker will hit the ceiling and then they’ll stop. If you’re smart and you have a company, and you have rainmakers, people driving traffic, people doing sales, if you have a ceiling they will hit and they will stop. If you get rid of the ceiling and then all the sudden they have as much as they want, they have less risk than the entrepreneur, but they have the ability to make unlimited amount of money. I said, “Your skill set over here as a technician is worth 25k a year, but if you take your skill set and shift it over here and say, “I come into a company and I’m a rainmaker. I create videos, I create stories, they’ll sell more products, more things.” Suddenly you’re not worth 25,000, now you’re worth $100,000, you’re worth $500,000. You’re worth whatever you’re able to do, because there’s no ceiling anymore. And that was the point of the podcast. I got done sending it, then I sent it to him and I sent it to my brother to edit it. And I have no idea what you thought about it at that point, because we didn’t talk for a while after that. But I’m curious where you went from there. Nic: So the first thing, you know, being told I was really only worth $25,000 in the eyes of the people who were hiring me, that was a punch in the gut. That sucked to hear. Thanks man. It was just like, I literally was working 12, 14, 16 hour days, lifting heavy stuff, I did a lot with lighting and camera work, not necessarily the story writing stuff, but you know, for him to put it so perfectly, that I was a technician. I thought going in, when I failed as an advisor and I started my own company, or started doing videos for people, and being so scared to charge somebody $250 for a video, being like, “they’re going to say no.” That kind of thing, and now I wouldn’t blink my eyes for that. But you know, it’s one of those things for him to tell it to me that way, just straight forward being like, “You are, you’re learning great skills and you’re meeting amazing people.” I worked with Oscar winners and Emmy winners and stuff in the movies and shows that I worked on, but again, I was only worth that much, they had a finite amount of money, and I was a small part of it, so I got a small piece. So listening to all of that, and then hearing the entrepreneur, the risk and stuff. I’m really tall, I’m 6’9” if you didn’t know. I’m a sink or swim guy, but because I’m tall I can reach the bottom of the pool a lot easier. When I jumped in, we had lost, as a financial advisor we had lost our home and we lost all these things. So I was like, I have nothing left to lose. Worst case scenario, and I had never heard that mindset before. We were renting a basement from a family members, our cars were paid off. Worst case scenario is we stayed there and get food stamps and that kind of thing. There was nowhere to go but up from there. So for me, I was just so excited. I’m like, I want to be a rainmaker, I want to be an entrepreneur, but I didn’t know where to find the people that I could do that for. So I was in this thing where I was still getting lots of calls to work as a technician, but I didn’t want to do that anymore. I didn’t want to put myself, my body, my family through me being gone and then when I’m home I’m just a bump on a log because I’m so wiped out, all that kind of stuff. So that was my biggest first thing, the action point for me. I started thinking, okay how do I transition out of this? How do I get myself out and start meeting the right people, the right kinds of clients who do have budgets and things like that, and how do I make it rain for them. That’s when I made that shift from working as a technician. I told myself I’m not going to do it anymore. The last time I technically worked as a technician was about 9 months ago. It was for a friend. So I made that shift and it was just amazing. Like Russell was talking about earlier, when you start to track it or when it’s part of your mindset, things start to show up and happen. You meet the right people and stuff. So those things just started, just by listening to that one hour long thing, I started changing and then the black box I got, Expert Secrets and Dotcom Secrets and started going through that as well. And it was just like, you see in the Funnel Hacker TV, that moment where the guy goes, “RAAAAA” that’s what happened with me. It was like a whole new world, Aladdin was singing. He was Aladdin and I was Jasmine, with a beard. Russell: I can show you the world. Nic: Exactly. But that’s what really, literally happened with me. Russell: That’s cool. Alright this is like summertime, he’s going through this process now, figuring things, changing things, shifting things, he’s changing his mindset. We go through the summer, we go through Christmas and then last year’s Funnel Hacking Live, were we in February or March last year? March, and so before Funnel Hacking Live we kind of just touched base every once in a while, seeing how things are going. He’s like, “Things are going good. I’m figuring things out.”  And then Funnel Hacking Live was coming, and I remember because we’re sitting there, and I think he messaged me or something, “Funnel Hacking looks awesome I wish I could make it.” I was like, “Why don’t you come?” And you’re like, “I just can’t make it yet.” I was like, “How about this man, I guarantee you if you show up it’ll change your life forever. I’m not going to pay for your flights or your hotel, but if you can figure out how to get there, I’ll give you a free ticket.” And that’s I said, “if you can come let Melanie know, and that’s it.” And I didn’t really know much, because you guys know in the middle of Funnel Hacking Live my life is chaos trying to figure out and how to juggle and all that stuff. So the next thing I know at Funnel Hacking Live, we’re sitting there and during the session I’m looking out and I see Nic standing there in the audience. And I was like, ‘I have no idea how he got there, but he’s there. Freaking good for him.” And I have no idea, how did you get there? That wasn’t probably an easy process for you was it? Nic: No. Credit cards. It was one of those things, I looked at flights. As soon as we had that conversation, it was funny because I was, I can’t remember what was going on, but it was a day or two before I responded back to his invitation. And I was like, I’d be stupid to say no. I have no idea how I’m going to get there. I think I even said, “I’ll hitch hike if I have to, to get there.” Can you imagine this giant sasquatch on route 66 trying to get to Florida. But I told my wife about it, and this is where Russell might have this in common. My wife is incredible and super supportive and she let me go. And we didn’t have the money in the bank so I said, “I’m going to put this on the credit card, and as soon as I get back I’m going to go to work and I’ll pay it off. I’ll get a couple clients and it will be fine.” So I booked the hotel, luckily I was able to get somebody who wasn’t able to go at the last minute and I got their hotel room, and I got the lfight and I came in and I was in the tornado warnings, like circling the airport for 5 hours, like the rest of you were. So I got there and I just remember I was just so excited. Walking in the room the very first day, the doors open and you all know what it’s like. I don’t have to relive this story. I remember I walked in and the hair on my arms, it was just like {whistling}. It was incredible, just the energy and the feeling. And I was like, t his is so cool. And then the very first speech, I was like that was worth every penny to get here. If I left right now it would have all been worth it. And you all know because you’re sitting here, you’ve felt that too. So that was my, getting there was like, “Honey, I know we don’t have the money, we have space on the credit card, and when I get home I swear I will work hard and it will be okay.” And she’s like, “Okay, go.” So I did. Russell: So now I want to talk about, not day one, or day two, but on day three at Funnel Hacking Live. How many of you guys remember what happened on day three? Russell sneak attacked all you guys. I was like, if I start going “Secret one, Secret two, Secret three” you guys will be like, “Here it is.” Sitting back. I was like, how do I do the Perfect webinar without people knowing it’s the perfect webinar? And I’m figuring this whole thing out, trying to figure that out. And we built a nice presentation, create an amazing offer for this program you guys are all in. And as you know, all you guys got excited and ran to the back to sign up and now you’re here. But you told me this personally, I hope you’re willing to share. But I thought it was amazing because you didn’t sign up that night. And I would love to hear what happened from then to the next day, and kind of go through that process. Nic: So this is my first Clickfunnels, I was all new to this whole thing. I was so excited when the 12 month millionaire presentation came up and I was like, “This is awesome.” Then I see it in the stack and I’m like, “I’m seeing the wizard,  I can see the wizard doing his thing.” And I was just so excited, and then the price. And it was a punch in a gut to me, because I was so, listening to it I was like, ‘This is what I need. This is what I want, this is what I need. It’s going to be amazing.” And then the price came and seriously, the rest of the night I was just like…. The rest of the presentation and everything after that I was just kind of zoned out. I just didn’t know what to do. Because I knew I needed it so badly and I’m like, that’s almost twice what we’re paying in rent right now. You know, it was just like, how am I going to justify this when I’m on food stamps and Medicaid and all this kind of stuff. You know, “yes, I’m on that but I dropped this money on a coaching program.” Russell: “From this internet coach.” Nic: Right. And so I’m having this mental battle and get back home to my room that night and I didn’t go hang out with people. I just was not feeling it. And I remember texting my wife on the walk back to the room. And I took the long way around the pond, just slowly depressedly meandering back to my room. And I’m texting her and I’m telling her how amazing it was and what the program would do and all that kind of stuff, and she’s like, “That sounds great.” And I’m purposely not saying how much it’s going to cost, just to get her excited about it, so I can maybe do a stack with her right. “For this and this….” See if I could try it. I didn’t, I failed when it came to doing that. I told her the price and she’s like, “That’s a lot of money. How are you going to pay for it.” And I’m like, “I don’t know.” And I’m like, “The only thing I can do, because I have to sign up while I’m here, and pay for it while I’m here. I can put it on the credit card and then we will figure it out.” So we talked a lot and I talked to my dad and it was the same thing. He was like, “Man, that’s a lot.” Just the scarcity mindset that a lot of us have with our family members and support system who aren’t, don’t think, who aren’t the crazy ones. So I went to bed and I got emotional, and I slept so so bad. Just didn’t sleep well that whole night. And again, I talked to my wife again the next morning, and I just, we just said, “It would be awesome. But I can’t do it, so I’m just going to work hard and figure something out and then if it ever opens up again, then I’ll be in a position to do it.” So I left my room that morning with that in my mind. I made the mistake of keeping my wallet in my pocket though, because I’m here. I again made the long walk back and kind of gave myself a pep talk like, “Don’t worry about that kind of stuff. Just more value out of it, meet more people.” So that’s when I left my room that morning, that’s where my mind was. Russell: What happened next? Nic: I walked into the room and Kevin Hansen, who I had, it’s funny, he does a lot of editing for Clickfunnels, and he and I had actually met independent of Clickfunnels before. It was one of those things like, “Oh you do, oh my gosh.” and it was like 2 months after we’d met. So I was talking to him, just chitchatting, and I just had right then in my mind, it was like, “Walk over to the table and sign up. If you don’t do it now, you’re never going to do it.” And it was just one of those things, because I’d given myself that speech, that whole five minute walk across the property. So I finished up talking with him and I just said, “I’ll be right back.” And I walked straight over to the table, got out the credit card, wrote it all down, and I’m like, I don’t even know what my limit is, so I hope whenever they run this that it goes through. I don’t know what’s going to happen. So I did and I got that little silver ribbon that we all got. And again, {whistling} chills. Like I was like, holy crap, this is amazing. I put it on my little lanyard thing and I was just like, I couldn’t believe it. The adrenaline and all that stuff of, “I’m doing it. And my wife is going to kill me when I get back home.” So that’s, then I went and got my seat and I was just floating, you know. I was so amped, I could have “Steven Larsened” it and screamed over the noise of everybody else and it would have been very, you would have heard it. So that’s what I did that morning. I was like, ‘Not going to do it, not going to do it, not going to do it.” I walked in, 60 seconds done. You have my money. Russell: So I’m curious, when did you tell your wife? This is like a marriage counseling session, huh? Nic: yeah, do you have a couch I can lay down on? Russell: A big couch. Nic: yeah, really. So I got home and I didn’t tell her, at all. I didn’t. I said, the clock is ticking. I have 30 days until that hits, or 20 days until the credit card statement comes and she’s like, “Wait, why is there an extra $2000 bucks on here?” So I just, I said, I’ve got some time because my wife, she’s 5’3”, she’s dainty, little petite lady, but she’s not scary I guess. But this is the first time I was really scared to tell her something in our marriage. So I just said, I’m just going to hit the road hard and see what I can come up with to cover at least the $1800 and the hotel, for what I racked up at Funnel Hacking Live, and then that will get me another 30 days to figure something out. So I went and I never told her until the credit card statement came and she saw it. She’s like, “What’s this?” But what happened before that, I don’t know, do you have something after that or do you want me to go to the next part? Okay, so me going to work and being like, “I gotta find it.” and it’s funny that night at Funnel Hacking Live, I went on Facebook and I created some half thought through offer where it was like, “Hey if I can get like 5 people locally where I’m at to do a monthly low number where I create a couple of videos for a monthly retainer, that will cover it and I can figure it. But nobody nibbled on it. So I got home and I started just trying to figure stuff out. And I had met another lady who had a company and she uses Clickfunnels for her course. And it was funny, I talked to her before I went to Funnel Hacking Live, and we were talking and she was like, “Do you know Clickfunnels?” And I was like, “That’s so crazy. I do.” Because I’d never met anybody else that had. So I got home and I shot a little video with her, it was a test to do some modules for her course and she loved it and it was great. So we were talking about, she had like 20 videos she wanted to do and we were talking about budget, and I just said, “you know what, for that much, for that many videos and all this kind of stuff, it’s going to be $25,000.” And she didn’t even blink. She’s like, “Perfect, that’s great.” Thank you, you guys. You’re going to make me cry. Thank you.  And that was like maybe two weeks after I got home that that happened. And I left her house and I tried my hardest not to do a jump heel click going down her driveway, out to my car, and I got around the corner and I messaged Russell like, “dude, you’ll never guess. I just closed my first 5 figure deal and this is what it was…” and he was like, “That’s so cool.” You know. But it was the whole plata o plomo thing, I would never have the guts to ask for something like that, I know that I should and that my skills and what I can do are worth that and more, and it’s been proven to me again and again since then, but to ask the first time, that first time you have a big ask and you’re just throwing yourself out there, and if she would have said no…Now what am I going to do? Because I had actually done another pitch where I did like a webinar pitch where I  had a stack and slides and stuff because it was for a Chamber of Commerce, and I wanted to charge them 2500 a month to do like 4 videos a year. And I did the whole thing like, “If you do it, it’s $2500 a month, or if you do it all right now it’s this…” that whole you know, and they passed on it. I was like, ugh. So it was just one of those things where being around y’all, that was my first experience being around entrepreneurs, really. I have friends who have had businesses, but I felt weird for wanting to create my own thing or being selfish because I have four kids. Like why don’t you go get a real job? All those conversations that you hear and have with yourself, especially when things aren’t going great. But it was like okay, I have to get it done or I have to drop out. And I just, even in that short amount of time I received so much value from the people I was beginning to meet, and then as the content started coming out I was like, “There’s no way I could live without this after having a taste of it.” So that was my, I had to get it done and it worked out. Russell: Amazing, I love that story. So coo. Alright, so since then, how many of you guys have watched his….are you daily or almost daily Facebook Lives? Nic: Pretty much, almost daily. I’ll miss some… Russell: How many of you guys have watched his daily Facebook lives, he’s doing what we’re saying right. He’s doing it. He’s doing it. I see it, I see it coming in my feed. It pops in my feed over and over. He’s doing what we’re talking about. He’s attracting people, he’s telling stories. All the stuff we’re talking about, he’s been doing it. But part of it, he had to have that emotion, that plata o plomo moment and then he hit it and it’s just like, he’s been running and running and running and running. And it’s been so insanely fun to watch the progress and the growth. Some of you guys know he put out an event that’s coming up this weekend and sold out in 5 seconds. He’s like, “I sold out, should I make it bigger?” and I’m like, “No people should have responded to you faster, it’s their fault. Sell it out because next time it will be easier to sell it out again and easier to sell out again.” But he did it by giving tons of value. Telling stories, telling stories, telling stories, providing more value to you guys, to other entrepreneurs, other people in the community and people are noticing. All the stuff we talked about today, he’s doing it. Consistently, consistently, consistently doing it. That was so cool. I don’t even know where to go from here. Alright I know where to go from here. Before I move into this, was it scary? Nic: All of it scary? Well, this is what, back to my competitive days, I don’t care who, I’d played against the best players in the country at high levels. And I didn’t care if you were going to the NBA, being recruited by Duke, once we got into the lines I didn’t care who you were, I was going to make you look silly. I would hold, you wouldn’t score a point on me, or I would just like out work you and if you wanted to get anywhere I was in your face the whole time. And so this was a whole different game for me. I remember Myron talking about in his speech at Funnel Hacking Live, you have to stay in the game long enough to learn the game, and I was new to this game. Like brand new, less than 12 months when I went to Funnel Hacking Live. And it was terrifying because, not necessarily because I didn’t think I could do it, I was just worried when, how long it would take. Like am I going to go and just spin my wheels and it’s going to be 15 years, 2099 and I’m wheeling up across to get my reward from him in his wheelchair, just like, “Hey buddy.” You know, that kind of thing. I just didn’t know how to make it happen quick. That kind of stuff. So I was definitely scared, not necessarily of failing, because I had failed before, I was just scared how long it was going to take. Russell: one of the best moments for me was this summer, him and his family were driving home from, I can’t remember where, they were driving through Boise, and he’s like, “Can we swing by and say hi? My kids want to meet you, my wife wants to meet you.” That’s always scary when you haven’t met someone’s wife or kids and you’re like, what if they hate me. And I remember I started thinking, oh my gosh. He spent all his money coming out here, and then he bought the thing, she might legitimately want to kill me. I have no idea. I was a little bit nervous. And I came and met them and the kids, it was super cool. I remember the coolest thing, your wife just looked at me and she said, “Thank you.” And I was like, how cool is that? Just the coolest thing. Thank you for convincing, persuading, whatever the things are to do this thing. I think sometimes as entrepreneurs we feel the guilt or the nervousness of, “Should I sell somebody something? Is it right, is it wrong?” You have to understand when you’re doing it, it’s not a selfish thing for you. It’s like, how do I get this person to take the action they need to do. Because most people won’t do it until they make an investment. It’s just human nature. They’ll keep dinking around and dinking around, whatever it is until they have a commitment, until they make that covenant, like Myron talked about earlier, people don’t change. So in any aspect of life, you want someone to make a change, there’s got to be something that causes enough pain to cause the change, which is why we have the program. We could have priced the program really, really cheap but I was like, “No we won’t.” We legitimately wanted to make a plata o plomo moment for everybody. You’ll notice, when the program signup, not everybody who signed up is here today. Some people fell away, some of them left, things happen and I totally understand, but I wanted to make it painful enough that we get people to move. And there are people in this room, I’ve joked about, Nic probably shouldn’t have bought that. If he would have asked I would’ve been like, “No dude, don’t. What are you thinking? Why would you do that?” as a friend this is weird, but I’m so grateful. Are you grateful you did? Nic: Absolutely. Russell: Where’s Marie Larsen, is she still in here? I talked about this in the podcast. She was in the same situation, she should not have signed up for it, it’s insane. I saw this text she sent Steven, she’s like, how much did you have in your bank account when you signed up for it? $70 in the bank account, $1800 a month bill she signed up for. And then it started happening and she was freaking out how it’s going, if you guys haven’t listened to the podcast, Lean In, yet I told the whole story. But it got nervous month one, then month two happened and she’s like, “Oh my gosh, I need to leave. I can’t afford this.” And she’s talking with Steven and Steven’s like, “Well, you could leave and walk away, or you could lean in.” so she decided, “Okay, I’m going to lean in.” So she leaned in, and I’ve watched as her business over the last 3, 4, 5, 6 months is growing and it’s growing and it’s growing because she leaned in. Tough times will come, every single time it comes, but those who lean in are the ones who make it through that, and who grow and who build huge businesses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 05 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0000 My Conversation With The Friendly Giant - Part 1 of 2 (Revisited!) full 402 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Replay of a special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell... Replay of a special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson and I want to welcome you to the Marketing Secrets podcast. The next two episodes are a really special one. For our Two Comma club X members and our inner circle members I did an event recently, some of you guys heard me talk about it. It was a traffic secrets event, where I’m getting all the material ready for the book. And the night before when I was doing all the prep work I had this thought. I was like, I want to bring up somebody on stage and it’s somebody who was a friend I grew up with in elementary school, and junior high, and high school, someone who was down on their luck, who was really, really struggling. About a year ago I saw him post something on Facebook and I reached out, and this interview is happening about a year later. He tells his story about what happened and the transformation and the change that’s happened by being involved inside our Clickfunnels, Funnel Hacker community. So I wanted to share that with you as part of the event, so this first half is going to be Nic kind of telling his story and it’s going to be the story from the bottom of the barrel where they were, they literally made $25,000 a year for 3 years in a row and then the transformation to this year, they’ll do well over six figures. And that’s going to be this first podcast. And the second podcast episode is, I did a live coaching session with him on stage, and I want to share that with you as well because I think there’s a lot of things for you specifically that you can get from this episode too. So the next few episodes are going to be sharing this really fun conversation that happened late night at the Traffic Secrets event with my friend Nic Fitzgerald, and if you think that name sounds familiar, I have talked about him before on this podcast. In fact, a little over a year ago I did a podcast episode called “Being a Rainmaker” that was a personalized podcast that I sent to Nic specifically to help him with what he was struggling with at the time. So anyway, I wanted to share this with you because it will take you full circle to show you kind of the progress and the momentum and things that are happening in his life, and I think it will be encouraging for you to hear the story because no matter where you are in your journey right now, if you are struggling, doing well, or if you’re somewhere in between, there are parts of this story that will resonate with you. And in the second episode where I coach Nic I think will help everybody as well. So with that said, let’s jump right in and have some fun. I want to introduce you to my friend Nic Fitzgerald. Alright so I want to set the tone for the next hour or so of what the game plan is. So I have a first initial question that I’m curious about with everyone here. I’m curious, who since they joined the Two Comma Club X program has had some kind of experience with Mr. Nic Fitzgerald? That’s powerful, I’m going to talk about why in a little bit, but very, very cool. So some of the back story behind this, and then we’re going to introduce him up, and when he comes up I want you guys to go crazy and scream and cheer and clap, because it will be good, and then I want him to sit down so we’ll be the same height, which will be good, it’ll be fun. So some of the back story, I actually met Nic the very first time in elementary school, and even in elementary school he was a foot and a half taller than me, which is amazing. He was like 6 ft 2 in like third grade, it was amazing. But we knew each other when we were dorky little kids and going up through elementary school we were both doing our things, and we didn’t have a care in the world and everything’s happening. And as we got older he kept getting taller, I stopped growing. And then we got into high school and he kept growing and he joined the basketball team. I didn’t keep growing so I went downstairs in the basement, literally, at our high school in the basement they call it the rubber room, and it’s this room that smells like, I don’t even know, but it’s under the gym. So he would go upstairs and fans would show up and people would cheer for them, and scream at their games. And all the girls would come to the games. And we’d go down in the rubber room by ourselves and cut weight and put on our sweats and lose weight and we’d jump rope and sweat like crazy. And we’d sit there, and I remember one day after working out for two hours pouring in sweat, I had my plastic gear on and my sweats on top of that, my hoodie and my hoods and we got the wrestling mats, and literally rolled ourselves up in the wrestling mats to keep the heat in, and we laid there and we were so hot. And I could hear the basketball players in the gym up above having so much fun and people cheering for them. And all the girls were there. And I was like, “Why are we not playing basketball?” It doesn’t make any sense. But during that time, obviously we were in two different kind of worlds, and we didn’t really connect that much, and then we left our separate ways. And I didn’t hear from him for years and years and years. And then do you guys remember Facebook when it first came out? The first time you got it and you log in and you’re like, “Oh my gosh, I can connect with people.” And you start searching the friends you know and then you find their friends and you spend a day and a half connecting with every person you’ve ever remembered seeing in your entire life? Do you guys remember that? So I did that one night, I connected with everybody. Everyone in high school, everyone in junior high, or elementary, everyone in every stage of my life, as many as I could think of. And then I was like, I think that’s everybody. Okay, I’ve connected with everybody. And one of those people that night was Nic. And then, but I didn’t say hi, I just friend requested and he requested back and I’m like, cool we’re connected. And then after that I got kind of bored with Facebook for like a year or so. Then a little while later I found out you can buy ads on it and I was like, what, this is amazing. So we started buying ads and everything is happening. And it’s crazy. And then what happened next, I actually want Nic onstage to tell you this story because I want you to hear it from both his perspective and my perspective, I think it’d be kind of interesting. So let’s do this real quick. As you guys know Nic has been a super valuable part of this community since he came in. I’m going to tell the story about how he got here and some of the craziness of how he signed up when he probably shouldn’t have and what’s been happening since then, because I know that you guys have all been part of that journey and been supporting him. How many of you guys are going to his event that’s happening later this week? He just keeps giving and serving, he’s doing all the right things, he’s telling his story, he’s doing some amazing stuff. So my plan now is I want to talk about the rest of the story. I want to tell you guys what I told him a year ago and then I want to tell you guys my advice for him moving forward, because I feel like it’s almost in proxy. I wish I could do that with every one of you guys. Just sit down here and coach you. But I feel like he’s at a stage where some of you guys aren’t to where he’s at yet and some of you are past that, and some of you guys are right where he’s at, and I feel like the advice that I really want to give him, will help you guys at all different levels. So that’s kind of the game plan. So with that said, let’s stand up and point our hands together for Mr. Nic Fitzgerald. Look how tall I am. I feel like….okay, so I had him find this post because I wanted to actually share a little piece of it. So this, I’m going to share a piece of it, I want to step back to where you were at that time in your life. So this was July 7, 2017, so what was that a year and a half ago, ish? So July 7, 2017 there was a post that said, “Long post disclaimer. I hate posting this, blah, blah, blah.” So at the time my family was about to go on a family vacation. We’re packing up the bags and everything, and you know how it is, you do a bunch of work and then you stop for a second and your wife and kids are gone and you’re like, pull out the phone, swap through the dream 100 and see what’s happening.  And somehow this post pops up in my feed and I see it, I see Nic my buddy from 20+ years ago and I’m reading this thing and my heart sinks for him. Some of the things he says, “I hate posting things like this, but I felt like need to for a while. Being poor stinks. For those friends of mine who are ultra conservative and look down consciously or not, on people like me, I can honestly tell you that I’m not a lazy free loader who wants something for nothing. I’m not a deadbeat who wants Obama or whoever to blame now, to buy me a phone. I’m not a lowlife trying to get the government to pay for my liposuction. I’m not a druggie who eats steak and lobster for dinner with my food stamps. I’m a father of four, a husband, someone who lost everything financially, including our home when the time came to have your healthcare in place or to get fined, I went through the process. “Based on my family size and income, we were referred to the state to apply for those programs. We couldn’t get coverage for ourselves to the exchange in other places, we qualified for Medicaid. After the process was complete, the state worker suggested we try to get some other help, some food stamps.” It kind of goes on and on and on and he says, “In 2016 I made $25000. $25,000 plus our tax returns for the previous year. So a family of 6 living on $25,000 a year is being audited for receiving too much help, too much assistance.” And it kind of goes on and on and on with that. He says, “I’ve never abused drugs or alcohol, I’ve never even tried them. I’m just a guy trying to live the American dream and provide for his family. It’s unfortunate that we look down on those who are trying to better our lives, even if it leaves them from receiving help from assistance in place to help them. Look down on me if you want, I don’t care. I know the truth. My family is healthy and sheltered and that’s all that matters. I don’t wish these trials on anyone else…” and it kind of goes on from there. So I want to take you back to that moment, what was, talk about what you were experiencing and what you were going through during that time. Nic: I didn’t expect this. I’m a friendly giant, but I’m a big boob too. Back at that time, I had started what I thought was, I started my entrepreneurial journey. I was working in film full time, working 12, 14, 16 hour days making $200 a day, just killing myself for my family. Going through the process of, I’d lost my job because I wasn’t going to hit my sales, I was a financial advisor, and I wasn’t going to hit my sales numbers. So you know, my ticket was stamped. So I said okay, I’m going to do my own thing. And in the course of all that, it was time to get your health insurance and those things, and I went through the proper channels, like I felt like I should. And I was referred to the government for the programs, based on the numbers. And as a provider, a father, an athlete competitor, I felt like a failure. We’ve all, when you have to rely on somebody else , or somebody else tells you, “Hey, we don’t think you can do this on your own, come over here and we’ll take care of you.” That’s basically what I was told. So it was hard to accept that and to live with that reality. So we did, and I worked hard and it was a blessing really, to not have to worry about how much health care costs or have some of the things to supplement to feed our family and stuff. So it was great and it was wonderful. But then I got the email from the state saying, “Hey, you’re being audited. We’re just looking at things and we’re not sure. You’ve been getting too much help.” So at that point I’m just sitting there frustrated because I’m working my butt off, just trying to make things happen, become someone involved in the film community in Utah. And I was, and everyone knew me, and I had a reputation, but I still was a nobody in the eyes of the government. So I went to Facebook to whine, looking for what I wanted, which was a pat on the back, “There, there Nic, you’re doing…we know you’re a good dude and you’re working hard.” That kind of thing, and I did… Russell: I was reading the comments last night. “Oh you’re doing a good job man. Good luck.” Everyone like babying him about how tough life can be. Nic: So I got what I wanted, but it still didn’t change anything. I still had to submit my last two years of tax returns and all of the pay that I’d got and everything like that, so they could look at our case number, not Nic, Leisle, Cloe,Ewen, Alek, William. So it was just one of those things. I got what I wanted, then comes Russell to give me what I needed, which was…. Russell: I saw that and I’m like packing the kids bags and everything and I was like, “ah, do I say something?” I don’t want to be that guy like, “Hey, 20 years ago…” and I was like, ah, I kept feeling this. Finally I was like, “hey man, I know we haven’t talked in over 20 years…” This was on Facebook messenger, “we hadn’t talked in like 20 years. I saw your post today and it sucks. And I know what’s wrong, and I can help. But at the same time, I don’t want to be that guy and I don’t want to step on any toes. I know we haven’t talked in 20 years, I have no idea if this is even appropriate. But I know what’s wrong, I can help you. And no, this is not some cheesy MLM I’m trying to pitch you on. But if you’re interested in some coaching, I know what’s wrong.” And I kind of waited and then I started packing the bags again and stuff like that. I’m curious of your thoughts initially as you saw that. Nic: It’s funny because my phone was kind of blowing up with the comments. So I would hear the little ding and I would check. And then I saw that it was a message from Russell, and we had said like, “Hey, what’s up.” And had a few tiny little small talk conversations, but nothing in depth personal. So I saw that he sent a message, so I’m like, “Sweet.” So I look at it, and I was half expecting, because I knew he was successful, I didn’t know about Clickfunnels per se. I knew he had something going on that was awesome, but I didn’t know what it was. So I was wondering, “I wonder what he’s going to say, what he has to say about things?” But I read it and it was funny because when you said, “I don’t want to overstep my bounds. It’s been a long time, I don’t want to step on toes.” Kind of thing, Russell, we all know his athletic accolades and stuff. I was a great basketball player too, I was in the top 200 players in the country my senior year and stuff like that. So I’ve been coachable and played at high levels and been coached by high level guys. So when I read it and he said, “I know what’s wrong and I can help you.” I was just like, “Yes.” That was my reaction. I just did the little, um, fist pump, let’s do this. So I replied back and I thanked him for reaching out and stuff, and I just said, I think I even said, “I’m coachable. I will accept any guidance.” And things like that. Because up until that point in my life, especially in sports, if a coach showed me something, I would do it the way he did, and I would kick the other dude’s butt. I didn’t care. I played against guys who made millions of dollars in the NBA. I dunked, I posterized on Shawn Marion when he was at UNLV my freshman year of college. I started as a freshman in a division one school in college. So I would take, I’ve always been that kind of, I would get that guidance, that direction, I can put it to work. So I was just like, “Dude, Mr. Miyagi me.” I’m 8 days older than him, so I’m like, “young grasshopper, yes you can teach me.” That kind of thing. So I welcomed it and I was excited. I had no idea, because again I didn’t know what he did. I just knew he had a level of success that I didn’t have. And if he was willing to give me some ideas, I was going to hear him out for sure. Russell: It was fun, because then I messaged him back. I’m packing the car and Collette’s like, “We gotta go, we gotta go.” I was like, ah, so I get the thing out and I was like, “This is the deal. I’m driving to Bear Lake, it’s like a six hour drive. I’m going to give you an assignment and if you do it, then I’ll give you the next piece. But most people never do it, so if you don’t that’s cool and I’ll just know it’s not worth your time. But if it’s really worth your time, do this thing. I need you to go back and listen to my podcast from episode one and listen to as many episodes as possible, and if you do that I’ll make you a customized episode just for you telling you exactly what’s wrong and how to fix it. But you have to do that first. “And I’m not telling you this because I’m on some ego trip, but just trust me. The problem is not your skill set, you  have mad skills, you’re good at everything. It’s all a problem between your ears. If we can shift that, we can shift everything else.” Then I jumped in my car and took off and started driving for six hours. And then the next day, or a day later you’re like, “I’m 14 episodes in.” he was still listening to the crappy one’s, according to Steven Larsen. The Marketing In Your Car, he was probably thinking, “This is the worst thing I’ve ever heard, ever.” But he did it. I said do it, he did it. And he kept doing it and doing it, and so two days into my family vacation I had Norah, you guys all know Norah right. She’s the coolest. But she won’t go to bed at night, she’s a nightmare. Don’t let that cute face trick you, she’s evil. So I’m like, I can’t go to sleep, so finally I was like, I’m going to plug her in the car and drive around the lake until she falls asleep. So I plug her in the car, strap her in and I start driving. And I’m like, this could be a long, long thing. She’s just smiling back here. I was like ugh. I’m like you know what, I’m going to do my episode for Nic. So I got my phone out, I clicked record and for probably almost an hour, it was an hour. I’m driving around the lake and I explain to him what I see. Did anyone here listen to that episode? I’m curious. I’m going to map out really quick, the core concept. Because some of you guys may be stuck in this, and the goal of this, what I want to do is I want to map this out, and then what’s funny is last year at Bear Lake, so a year later we had this thing where I was like, we should do a second round where I do a year later, this is the advice now. And I wrote a whole outline for it and I totally never did it. So I’m going to go through that outline now, and kind of show him the next phase. So you cool if I show kind of what I talked about? Nic: For sure. Russell: Alright, so those who missed the podcast episode, who haven’t been binge listening, you’ve all failed the test, now you must go back to episode number one, listen to the cheesy jingle and get to episode, I don’t know what it was. Okay, I’ve said this before, if you look at any business, any organization, there’s three core people. The first one is the person at the top who is the entrepreneur. The cool thing about the entrepreneur is the entrepreneur is the person who makes the most amount of money. They’re the head and they get the most amount of money. The problem with the entrepreneur is they also have the most risk, so they’re most likely to lose everything. I’ve lost everything multiple times because I’m the guy risking everything. But the nice thing is entrepreneurs that write their own paychecks, there’s no ceilings. So they can make as much as they want. They can make a million, ten million, a hundred million, they can do whatever they want because there’s no ceiling. So that’s the first personality type. The second personality type over here is what we call the technicians. The technicians are the people who actually do the work. And what’s funny, if you look at this, people who go to college are the technicians. What do they do, they look down on entrepreneurs, they look down on sales people. “Oh you’re in sales. What are you a doctor?” For crying out loud in the night. But they look down on people like us. Because “I’m a doctor. I went to 45 years of school.” What’s interesting, there’s technicians in all sorts of different spots right. I actually feel bad, I shouldn’t say this out loud, but at the airport here I saw one of my friends who is an amazing doctor and him and his wife were leaving on a trip and we were talking and he said, “This is the first trip my wife and I have been on in 25 years, together by ourselves.” I’m like, “What?” and he’s like, ‘Well, we had medical school and then we had kids and then we had to pay off medical school and all these things. Now the kids are gone and now we finally have a chance to leave.” I was like, wow. Our whole lives we’ve heard that medical school, becoming a doctor is the…..anyway that’s a rant for another day. But I was like, there’s technicians. And what’s interesting about technicians, they don’t have any risk. So there’s no risk whatsoever, but they do have, there’s a price ceiling on every single person that’s a technician, right. And depending on what job you have your price ceiling is different. So doctors, the price ceiling is, I have no idea what doctor’s make, $500 grand a year is like the price ceiling, that’s amazing but they can’t go above that. And different tasks, different roles, different position all have different price ceilings. But there’s like, this role as a technician makes this much, and this one makes this much and you’re all kind of these things. I said the problem with you right now, you have these amazing skill sets, but you are stuck as a technician in a role where they’re capping you out, where the only thing you can make is $25k a year. Remember I asked you, “What have you been doing?” and you’re like, “Oh, I’ve been networking, I’ve been learning, I’ve been getting my skills up, getting amazing.” I’m like, “That’s amazing, you’re skills are awesome, but your ceiling is $25k a year. No matter how good you get you are stuck because you’re in a technician role right now.” I said, “you’ve got a couple of options. One is go become an entrepreneur, which is scary because you’ve got four kids at home and you don’t have money anyway.” I am so eternally grateful that when I started this game, my wife, first off, we didn’t have kids yet, my wife was working, we didn’t have any money but I didn’t have to have any money at that time, and I’m so grateful I was able to sometimes, I was able to risk things that nowadays is hard. For you to come jump out on your own initially and just be like, “Boom, I’m an entrepreneur and I’m selling this stuff.” That’s scary right, because you’ve got all this risk. So I was like, that’s the thing, but it’s going to be really, really hard. I said, “there’s good news, there’s one more spot in this ecosystem. And the cool thing about that spot it’s that it’s just like the entrepreneur, there’s no ceiling, now the third spot over here is what we call the rainmakers. The rainmakers are the people who come into a business and they know how to make it rain. This is the people who know how to bring people into a company. Leads, they bring leads in. They know all this traffic stuff they’re talking about. These are the people who know how to sell to leads and actually get money out of peoples wallets and put it into the hands of the entrepreneurs. These people right here, the rainmakers don’t  have ceilings. In fact, companies who give the rainmaker the ceiling are the stupidest people in the world, because the rainmaker will hit the ceiling and then they’ll stop. If you’re smart and you have a company, and you have rainmakers, people driving traffic, people doing sales, if you have a ceiling they will hit and they will stop. If you get rid of the ceiling and then all the sudden they have as much as they want, they have less risk than the entrepreneur, but they have the ability to make unlimited amount of money. I said, “Your skill set over here as a technician is worth 25k a year, but if you take your skill set and shift it over here and say, “I come into a company and I’m a rainmaker. I create videos, I create stories, they’ll sell more products, more things.” Suddenly you’re not worth 25,000, now you’re worth $100,000, you’re worth $500,000. You’re worth whatever you’re able to do, because there’s no ceiling anymore. And that was the point of the podcast. I got done sending it, then I sent it to him and I sent it to my brother to edit it. And I have no idea what you thought about it at that point, because we didn’t talk for a while after that. But I’m curious where you went from there. Nic: So the first thing, you know, being told I was really only worth $25,000 in the eyes of the people who were hiring me, that was a punch in the gut. That sucked to hear. Thanks man. It was just like, I literally was working 12, 14, 16 hour days, lifting heavy stuff, I did a lot with lighting and camera work, not necessarily the story writing stuff, but you know, for him to put it so perfectly, that I was a technician. I thought going in, when I failed as an advisor and I started my own company, or started doing videos for people, and being so scared to charge somebody $250 for a video, being like, “they’re going to say no.” That kind of thing, and now I wouldn’t blink my eyes for that. But you know, it’s one of those things for him to tell it to me that way, just straight forward being like, “You are, you’re learning great skills and you’re meeting amazing people.” I worked with Oscar winners and Emmy winners and stuff in the movies and shows that I worked on, but again, I was only worth that much, they had a finite amount of money, and I was a small part of it, so I got a small piece. So listening to all of that, and then hearing the entrepreneur, the risk and stuff. I’m really tall, I’m 6’9” if you didn’t know. I’m a sink or swim guy, but because I’m tall I can reach the bottom of the pool a lot easier. When I jumped in, we had lost, as a financial advisor we had lost our home and we lost all these things. So I was like, I have nothing left to lose. Worst case scenario, and I had never heard that mindset before. We were renting a basement from a family members, our cars were paid off. Worst case scenario is we stayed there and get food stamps and that kind of thing. There was nowhere to go but up from there. So for me, I was just so excited. I’m like, I want to be a rainmaker, I want to be an entrepreneur, but I didn’t know where to find the people that I could do that for. So I was in this thing where I was still getting lots of calls to work as a technician, but I didn’t want to do that anymore. I didn’t want to put myself, my body, my family through me being gone and then when I’m home I’m just a bump on a log because I’m so wiped out, all that kind of stuff. So that was my biggest first thing, the action point for me. I started thinking, okay how do I transition out of this? How do I get myself out and start meeting the right people, the right kinds of clients who do have budgets and things like that, and how do I make it rain for them. That’s when I made that shift from working as a technician. I told myself I’m not going to do it anymore. The last time I technically worked as a technician was about 9 months ago. It was for a friend. So I made that shift and it was just amazing. Like Russell was talking about earlier, when you start to track it or when it’s part of your mindset, things start to show up and happen. You meet the right people and stuff. So those things just started, just by listening to that one hour long thing, I started changing and then the black box I got, Expert Secrets and Dotcom Secrets and started going through that as well. And it was just like, you see in the Funnel Hacker TV, that moment where the guy goes, “RAAAAA” that’s what happened with me. It was like a whole new world, Aladdin was singing. He was Aladdin and I was Jasmine, with a beard. Russell: I can show you the world. Nic: Exactly. But that’s what really, literally happened with me. Russell: That’s cool. Alright this is like summertime, he’s going through this process now, figuring things, changing things, shifting things, he’s changing his mindset. We go through the summer, we go through Christmas and then last year’s Funnel Hacking Live, were we in February or March last year? March, and so before Funnel Hacking Live we kind of just touched base every once in a while, seeing how things are going. He’s like, “Things are going good. I’m figuring things out.”  And then Funnel Hacking Live was coming, and I remember because we’re sitting there, and I think he messaged me or something, “Funnel Hacking looks awesome I wish I could make it.” I was like, “Why don’t you come?” And you’re like, “I just can’t make it yet.” I was like, “How about this man, I guarantee you if you show up it’ll change your life forever. I’m not going to pay for your flights or your hotel, but if you can figure out how to get there, I’ll give you a free ticket.” And that’s I said, “if you can come let Melanie know, and that’s it.” And I didn’t really know much, because you guys know in the middle of Funnel Hacking Live my life is chaos trying to figure out and how to juggle and all that stuff. So the next thing I know at Funnel Hacking Live, we’re sitting there and during the session I’m looking out and I see Nic standing there in the audience. And I was like, ‘I have no idea how he got there, but he’s there. Freaking good for him.” And I have no idea, how did you get there? That wasn’t probably an easy process for you was it? Nic: No. Credit cards. It was one of those things, I looked at flights. As soon as we had that conversation, it was funny because I was, I can’t remember what was going on, but it was a day or two before I responded back to his invitation. And I was like, I’d be stupid to say no. I have no idea how I’m going to get there. I think I even said, “I’ll hitch hike if I have to, to get there.” Can you imagine this giant sasquatch on route 66 trying to get to Florida. But I told my wife about it, and this is where Russell might have this in common. My wife is incredible and super supportive and she let me go. And we didn’t have the money in the bank so I said, “I’m going to put this on the credit card, and as soon as I get back I’m going to go to work and I’ll pay it off. I’ll get a couple clients and it will be fine.” So I booked the hotel, luckily I was able to get somebody who wasn’t able to go at the last minute and I got their hotel room, and I got the lfight and I came in and I was in the tornado warnings, like circling the airport for 5 hours, like the rest of you were. So I got there and I just remember I was just so excited. Walking in the room the very first day, the doors open and you all know what it’s like. I don’t have to relive this story. I remember I walked in and the hair on my arms, it was just like {whistling}. It was incredible, just the energy and the feeling. And I was like, t his is so cool. And then the very first speech, I was like that was worth every penny to get here. If I left right now it would have all been worth it. And you all know because you’re sitting here, you’ve felt that too. So that was my, getting there was like, “Honey, I know we don’t have the money, we have space on the credit card, and when I get home I swear I will work hard and it will be okay.” And she’s like, “Okay, go.” So I did. Russell: So now I want to talk about, not day one, or day two, but on day three at Funnel Hacking Live. How many of you guys remember what happened on day three? Russell sneak attacked all you guys. I was like, if I start going “Secret one, Secret two, Secret three” you guys will be like, “Here it is.” Sitting back. I was like, how do I do the Perfect webinar without people knowing it’s the perfect webinar? And I’m figuring this whole thing out, trying to figure that out. And we built a nice presentation, create an amazing offer for this program you guys are all in. And as you know, all you guys got excited and ran to the back to sign up and now you’re here. But you told me this personally, I hope you’re willing to share. But I thought it was amazing because you didn’t sign up that night. And I would love to hear what happened from then to the next day, and kind of go through that process. Nic: So this is my first Clickfunnels, I was all new to this whole thing. I was so excited when the 12 month millionaire presentation came up and I was like, “This is awesome.” Then I see it in the stack and I’m like, “I’m seeing the wizard,  I can see the wizard doing his thing.” And I was just so excited, and then the price. And it was a punch in a gut to me, because I was so, listening to it I was like, ‘This is what I need. This is what I want, this is what I need. It’s going to be amazing.” And then the price came and seriously, the rest of the night I was just like…. The rest of the presentation and everything after that I was just kind of zoned out. I just didn’t know what to do. Because I knew I needed it so badly and I’m like, that’s almost twice what we’re paying in rent right now. You know, it was just like, how am I going to justify this when I’m on food stamps and Medicaid and all this kind of stuff. You know, “yes, I’m on that but I dropped this money on a coaching program.” Russell: “From this internet coach.” Nic: Right. And so I’m having this mental battle and get back home to my room that night and I didn’t go hang out with people. I just was not feeling it. And I remember texting my wife on the walk back to the room. And I took the long way around the pond, just slowly depressedly meandering back to my room. And I’m texting her and I’m telling her how amazing it was and what the program would do and all that kind of stuff, and she’s like, “That sounds great.” And I’m purposely not saying how much it’s going to cost, just to get her excited about it, so I can maybe do a stack with her right. “For this and this….” See if I could try it. I didn’t, I failed when it came to doing that. I told her the price and she’s like, “That’s a lot of money. How are you going to pay for it.” And I’m like, “I don’t know.” And I’m like, “The only thing I can do, because I have to sign up while I’m here, and pay for it while I’m here. I can put it on the credit card and then we will figure it out.” So we talked a lot and I talked to my dad and it was the same thing. He was like, “Man, that’s a lot.” Just the scarcity mindset that a lot of us have with our family members and support system who aren’t, don’t think, who aren’t the crazy ones. So I went to bed and I got emotional, and I slept so so bad. Just didn’t sleep well that whole night. And again, I talked to my wife again the next morning, and I just, we just said, “It would be awesome. But I can’t do it, so I’m just going to work hard and figure something out and then if it ever opens up again, then I’ll be in a position to do it.” So I left my room that morning with that in my mind. I made the mistake of keeping my wallet in my pocket though, because I’m here. I again made the long walk back and kind of gave myself a pep talk like, “Don’t worry about that kind of stuff. Just more value out of it, meet more people.” So that’s when I left my room that morning, that’s where my mind was. Russell: What happened next? Nic: I walked into the room and Kevin Hansen, who I had, it’s funny, he does a lot of editing for Clickfunnels, and he and I had actually met independent of Clickfunnels before. It was one of those things like, “Oh you do, oh my gosh.” and it was like 2 months after we’d met. So I was talking to him, just chitchatting, and I just had right then in my mind, it was like, “Walk over to the table and sign up. If you don’t do it now, you’re never going to do it.” And it was just one of those things, because I’d given myself that speech, that whole five minute walk across the property. So I finished up talking with him and I just said, “I’ll be right back.” And I walked straight over to the table, got out the credit card, wrote it all down, and I’m like, I don’t even know what my limit is, so I hope whenever they run this that it goes through. I don’t know what’s going to happen. So I did and I got that little silver ribbon that we all got. And again, {whistling} chills. Like I was like, holy crap, this is amazing. I put it on my little lanyard thing and I was just like, I couldn’t believe it. The adrenaline and all that stuff of, “I’m doing it. And my wife is going to kill me when I get back home.” So that’s, then I went and got my seat and I was just floating, you know. I was so amped, I could have “Steven Larsened” it and screamed over the noise of everybody else and it would have been very, you would have heard it. So that’s what I did that morning. I was like, ‘Not going to do it, not going to do it, not going to do it.” I walked in, 60 seconds done. You have my money. Russell: So I’m curious, when did you tell your wife? This is like a marriage counseling session, huh? Nic: yeah, do you have a couch I can lay down on? Russell: A big couch. Nic: yeah, really. So I got home and I didn’t tell her, at all. I didn’t. I said, the clock is ticking. I have 30 days until that hits, or 20 days until the credit card statement comes and she’s like, “Wait, why is there an extra $2000 bucks on here?” So I just, I said, I’ve got some time because my wife, she’s 5’3”, she’s dainty, little petite lady, but she’s not scary I guess. But this is the first time I was really scared to tell her something in our marriage. So I just said, I’m just going to hit the road hard and see what I can come up with to cover at least the $1800 and the hotel, for what I racked up at Funnel Hacking Live, and then that will get me another 30 days to figure something out. So I went and I never told her until the credit card statement came and she saw it. She’s like, “What’s this?” But what happened before that, I don’t know, do you have something after that or do you want me to go to the next part? Okay, so me going to work and being like, “I gotta find it.” and it’s funny that night at Funnel Hacking Live, I went on Facebook and I created some half thought through offer where it was like, “Hey if I can get like 5 people locally where I’m at to do a monthly low number where I create a couple of videos for a monthly retainer, that will cover it and I can figure it. But nobody nibbled on it. So I got home and I started just trying to figure stuff out. And I had met another lady who had a company and she uses Clickfunnels for her course. And it was funny, I talked to her before I went to Funnel Hacking Live, and we were talking and she was like, “Do you know Clickfunnels?” And I was like, “That’s so crazy. I do.” Because I’d never met anybody else that had. So I got home and I shot a little video with her, it was a test to do some modules for her course and she loved it and it was great. So we were talking about, she had like 20 videos she wanted to do and we were talking about budget, and I just said, “you know what, for that much, for that many videos and all this kind of stuff, it’s going to be $25,000.” And she didn’t even blink. She’s like, “Perfect, that’s great.” Thank you, you guys. You’re going to make me cry. Thank you.  And that was like maybe two weeks after I got home that that happened. And I left her house and I tried my hardest not to do a jump heel click going down her driveway, out to my car, and I got around the corner and I messaged Russell like, “dude, you’ll never guess. I just closed my first 5 figure deal and this is what it was…” and he was like, “That’s so cool.” You know. But it was the whole plata o plomo thing, I would never have the guts to ask for something like that, I know that I should and that my skills and what I can do are worth that and more, and it’s been proven to me again and again since then, but to ask the first time, that first time you have a big ask and you’re just throwing yourself out there, and if she would have said no…Now what am I going to do? Because I had actually done another pitch where I did like a webinar pitch where I  had a stack and slides and stuff because it was for a Chamber of Commerce, and I wanted to charge them 2500 a month to do like 4 videos a year. And I did the whole thing like, “If you do it, it’s $2500 a month, or if you do it all right now it’s this…” that whole you know, and they passed on it. I was like, ugh. So it was just one of those things where being around y’all, that was my first experience being around entrepreneurs, really. I have friends who have had businesses, but I felt weird for wanting to create my own thing or being selfish because I have four kids. Like why don’t you go get a real job? All those conversations that you hear and have with yourself, especially when things aren’t going great. But it was like okay, I have to get it done or I have to drop out. And I just, even in that short amount of time I received so much value from the people I was beginning to meet, and then as the content started coming out I was like, “There’s no way I could live without this after having a taste of it.” So that was my, I had to get it done and it worked out. Russell: Amazing, I love that story. So coo. Alright, so since then, how many of you guys have watched his….are you daily or almost daily Facebook Lives? Nic: Pretty much, almost daily. I’ll miss some… Russell: How many of you guys have watched his daily Facebook lives, he’s doing what we’re saying right. He’s doing it. He’s doing it. I see it, I see it coming in my feed. It pops in my feed over and over. He’s doing what we’re talking about. He’s attracting people, he’s telling stories. All the stuff we’re talking about, he’s been doing it. But part of it, he had to have that emotion, that plata o plomo moment and then he hit it and it’s just like, he’s been running and running and running and running. And it’s been so insanely fun to watch the progress and the growth. Some of you guys know he put out an event that’s coming up this weekend and sold out in 5 seconds. He’s like, “I sold out, should I make it bigger?” and I’m like, “No people should have responded to you faster, it’s their fault. Sell it out because next time it will be easier to sell it out again and easier to sell out again.” But he did it by giving tons of value. Telling stories, telling stories, telling stories, providing more value to you guys, to other entrepreneurs, other people in the community and people are noticing. All the stuff we talked about today, he’s doing it. Consistently, consistently, consistently doing it. That was so cool. I don’t even know where to go from here. Alright I know where to go from here. Before I move into this, was it scary? Nic: All of it scary? Well, this is what, back to my competitive days, I don’t care who, I’d played against the best players in the country at high levels. And I didn’t care if you were going to the NBA, being recruited by Duke, once we got into the lines I didn’t care who you were, I was going to make you look silly. I would hold, you wouldn’t score a point on me, or I would just like out work you and if you wanted to get anywhere I was in your face the whole time. And so this was a whole different game for me. I remember Myron talking about in his speech at Funnel Hacking Live, you have to stay in the game long enough to learn the game, and I was new to this game. Like brand new, less than 12 months when I went to Funnel Hacking Live. And it was terrifying because, not necessarily because I didn’t think I could do it, I was just worried when, how long it would take. Like am I going to go and just spin my wheels and it’s going to be 15 years, 2099 and I’m wheeling up across to get my reward from him in his wheelchair, just like, “Hey buddy.” You know, that kind of thing. I just didn’t know how to make it happen quick. That kind of stuff. So I was definitely scared, not necessarily of failing, because I had failed before, I was just scared how long it was going to take. Russell: one of the best moments for me was this summer, him and his family were driving home from, I can’t remember where, they were driving through Boise, and he’s like, “Can we swing by and say hi? My kids want to meet you, my wife wants to meet you.” That’s always scary when you haven’t met someone’s wife or kids and you’re like, what if they hate me. And I remember I started thinking, oh my gosh. He spent all his money coming out here, and then he bought the thing, she might legitimately want to kill me. I have no idea. I was a little bit nervous. And I came and met them and the kids, it was super cool. I remember the coolest thing, your wife just looked at me and she said, “Thank you.” And I was like, how cool is that? Just the coolest thing. Thank you for convincing, persuading, whatever the things are to do this thing. I think sometimes as entrepreneurs we feel the guilt or the nervousness of, “Should I sell somebody something? Is it right, is it wrong?” You have to understand when you’re doing it, it’s not a selfish thing for you. It’s like, how do I get this person to take the action they need to do. Because most people won’t do it until they make an investment. It’s just human nature. They’ll keep dinking around and dinking around, whatever it is until they have a commitment, until they make that covenant, like Myron talked about earlier, people don’t change. So in any aspect of life, you want someone to make a change, there’s got to be something that causes enough pain to cause the change, which is why we have the program. We could have priced the program really, really cheap but I was like, “No we won’t.” We legitimately wanted to make a plata o plomo moment for everybody. You’ll notice, when the program signup, not everybody who signed up is here today. Some people fell away, some of them left, things happen and I totally understand, but I wanted to make it painful enough that we get people to move. And there are people in this room, I’ve joked about, Nic probably shouldn’t have bought that. If he would have asked I would’ve been like, “No dude, don’t. What are you thinking? Why would you do that?” as a friend this is weird, but I’m so grateful. Are you grateful you did? Nic: Absolutely. Russell: Where’s Marie Larsen, is she still in here? I talked about this in the podcast. She was in the same situation, she should not have signed up for it, it’s insane. I saw this text she sent Steven, she’s like, how much did you have in your bank account when you signed up for it? $70 in the bank account, $1800 a month bill she signed up for. And then it started happening and she was freaking out how it’s going, if you guys haven’t listened to the podcast, Lean In, yet I told the whole story. But it got nervous month one, then month two happened and she’s like, “Oh my gosh, I need to leave. I can’t afford this.” And she’s talking with Steven and Steven’s like, “Well, you could leave and walk away, or you could lean in.” so she decided, “Okay, I’m going to lean in.” So she leaned in, and I’ve watched as her business over the last 3, 4, 5, 6 months is growing and it’s growing and it’s growing because she leaned in. Tough times will come, every single time it comes, but those who lean in are the ones who make it through that, and who grow and who build huge businesses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Replay of a special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald.

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Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson and I want to welcome you to the Marketing Secrets podcast. The next two episodes are a really special one. For our Two Comma club X members and our inner circle members I did an event recently, some of you guys heard me talk about it. It was a traffic secrets event, where I’m getting all the material ready for the book.

And the night before when I was doing all the prep work I had this thought. I was like, I want to bring up somebody on stage and it’s somebody who was a friend I grew up with in elementary school, and junior high, and high school, someone who was down on their luck, who was really, really struggling. About a year ago I saw him post something on Facebook and I reached out, and this interview is happening about a year later.

He tells his story about what happened and the transformation and the change that’s happened by being involved inside our Clickfunnels, Funnel Hacker community. So I wanted to share that with you as part of the event, so this first half is going to be Nic kind of telling his story and it’s going to be the story from the bottom of the barrel where they were, they literally made $25,000 a year for 3 years in a row and then the transformation to this year, they’ll do well over six figures. And that’s going to be this first podcast.

And the second podcast episode is, I did a live coaching session with him on stage, and I want to share that with you as well because I think there’s a lot of things for you specifically that you can get from this episode too.

So the next few episodes are going to be sharing this really fun conversation that happened late night at the Traffic Secrets event with my friend Nic Fitzgerald, and if you think that name sounds familiar, I have talked about him before on this podcast. In fact, a little over a year ago I did a podcast episode called “Being a Rainmaker” that was a personalized podcast that I sent to Nic specifically to help him with what he was struggling with at the time.

So anyway, I wanted to share this with you because it will take you full circle to show you kind of the progress and the momentum and things that are happening in his life, and I think it will be encouraging for you to hear the story because no matter where you are in your journey right now, if you are struggling, doing well, or if you’re somewhere in between, there are parts of this story that will resonate with you. And in the second episode where I coach Nic I think will help everybody as well. So with that said, let’s jump right in and have some fun. I want to introduce you to my friend Nic Fitzgerald.

Alright so I want to set the tone for the next hour or so of what the game plan is. So I have a first initial question that I’m curious about with everyone here. I’m curious, who since they joined the Two Comma Club X program has had some kind of experience with Mr. Nic Fitzgerald? That’s powerful, I’m going to talk about why in a little bit, but very, very cool.

So some of the back story behind this, and then we’re going to introduce him up, and when he comes up I want you guys to go crazy and scream and cheer and clap, because it will be good, and then I want him to sit down so we’ll be the same height, which will be good, it’ll be fun.

So some of the back story, I actually met Nic the very first time in elementary school, and even in elementary school he was a foot and a half taller than me, which is amazing. He was like 6 ft 2 in like third grade, it was amazing. But we knew each other when we were dorky little kids and going up through elementary school we were both doing our things, and we didn’t have a care in the world and everything’s happening. And as we got older he kept getting taller, I stopped growing.

And then we got into high school and he kept growing and he joined the basketball team. I didn’t keep growing so I went downstairs in the basement, literally, at our high school in the basement they call it the rubber room, and it’s this room that smells like, I don’t even know, but it’s under the gym. So he would go upstairs and fans would show up and people would cheer for them, and scream at their games. And all the girls would come to the games. And we’d go down in the rubber room by ourselves and cut weight and put on our sweats and lose weight and we’d jump rope and sweat like crazy.

And we’d sit there, and I remember one day after working out for two hours pouring in sweat, I had my plastic gear on and my sweats on top of that, my hoodie and my hoods and we got the wrestling mats, and literally rolled ourselves up in the wrestling mats to keep the heat in, and we laid there and we were so hot. And I could hear the basketball players in the gym up above having so much fun and people cheering for them. And all the girls were there. And I was like, “Why are we not playing basketball?” It doesn’t make any sense.

But during that time, obviously we were in two different kind of worlds, and we didn’t really connect that much, and then we left our separate ways. And I didn’t hear from him for years and years and years. And then do you guys remember Facebook when it first came out? The first time you got it and you log in and you’re like, “Oh my gosh, I can connect with people.” And you start searching the friends you know and then you find their friends and you spend a day and a half connecting with every person you’ve ever remembered seeing in your entire life? Do you guys remember that?

So I did that one night, I connected with everybody. Everyone in high school, everyone in junior high, or elementary, everyone in every stage of my life, as many as I could think of. And then I was like, I think that’s everybody. Okay, I’ve connected with everybody.

And one of those people that night was Nic. And then, but I didn’t say hi, I just friend requested and he requested back and I’m like, cool we’re connected. And then after that I got kind of bored with Facebook for like a year or so. Then a little while later I found out you can buy ads on it and I was like, what, this is amazing. So we started buying ads and everything is happening. And it’s crazy.

And then what happened next, I actually want Nic onstage to tell you this story because I want you to hear it from both his perspective and my perspective, I think it’d be kind of interesting. So let’s do this real quick. As you guys know Nic has been a super valuable part of this community since he came in. I’m going to tell the story about how he got here and some of the craziness of how he signed up when he probably shouldn’t have and what’s been happening since then, because I know that you guys have all been part of that journey and been supporting him. How many of you guys are going to his event that’s happening later this week? He just keeps giving and serving, he’s doing all the right things, he’s telling his story, he’s doing some amazing stuff.

So my plan now is I want to talk about the rest of the story. I want to tell you guys what I told him a year ago and then I want to tell you guys my advice for him moving forward, because I feel like it’s almost in proxy. I wish I could do that with every one of you guys. Just sit down here and coach you. But I feel like he’s at a stage where some of you guys aren’t to where he’s at yet and some of you are past that, and some of you guys are right where he’s at, and I feel like the advice that I really want to give him, will help you guys at all different levels. So that’s kind of the game plan. So with that said, let’s stand up and point our hands together for Mr. Nic Fitzgerald.

Look how tall I am. I feel like….okay, so I had him find this post because I wanted to actually share a little piece of it. So this, I’m going to share a piece of it, I want to step back to where you were at that time in your life. So this was July 7, 2017, so what was that a year and a half ago, ish?

So July 7, 2017 there was a post that said, “Long post disclaimer. I hate posting this, blah, blah, blah.” So at the time my family was about to go on a family vacation. We’re packing up the bags and everything, and you know how it is, you do a bunch of work and then you stop for a second and your wife and kids are gone and you’re like, pull out the phone, swap through the dream 100 and see what’s happening.

 And somehow this post pops up in my feed and I see it, I see Nic my buddy from 20+ years ago and I’m reading this thing and my heart sinks for him. Some of the things he says, “I hate posting things like this, but I felt like need to for a while. Being poor stinks. For those friends of mine who are ultra conservative and look down consciously or not, on people like me, I can honestly tell you that I’m not a lazy free loader who wants something for nothing. I’m not a deadbeat who wants Obama or whoever to blame now, to buy me a phone. I’m not a lowlife trying to get the government to pay for my liposuction. I’m not a druggie who eats steak and lobster for dinner with my food stamps. I’m a father of four, a husband, someone who lost everything financially, including our home when the time came to have your healthcare in place or to get fined, I went through the process.

“Based on my family size and income, we were referred to the state to apply for those programs. We couldn’t get coverage for ourselves to the exchange in other places, we qualified for Medicaid. After the process was complete, the state worker suggested we try to get some other help, some food stamps.” It kind of goes on and on and on and he says, “In 2016 I made $25000. $25,000 plus our tax returns for the previous year. So a family of 6 living on $25,000 a year is being audited for receiving too much help, too much assistance.” And it kind of goes on and on and on with that.

He says, “I’ve never abused drugs or alcohol, I’ve never even tried them. I’m just a guy trying to live the American dream and provide for his family. It’s unfortunate that we look down on those who are trying to better our lives, even if it leaves them from receiving help from assistance in place to help them. Look down on me if you want, I don’t care. I know the truth. My family is healthy and sheltered and that’s all that matters. I don’t wish these trials on anyone else…” and it kind of goes on from there.

So I want to take you back to that moment, what was, talk about what you were experiencing and what you were going through during that time.

Nic: I didn’t expect this. I’m a friendly giant, but I’m a big boob too. Back at that time, I had started what I thought was, I started my entrepreneurial journey. I was working in film full time, working 12, 14, 16 hour days making $200 a day, just killing myself for my family. Going through the process of, I’d lost my job because I wasn’t going to hit my sales, I was a financial advisor, and I wasn’t going to hit my sales numbers. So you know, my ticket was stamped.

So I said okay, I’m going to do my own thing. And in the course of all that, it was time to get your health insurance and those things, and I went through the proper channels, like I felt like I should. And I was referred to the government for the programs, based on the numbers. And as a provider, a father, an athlete competitor, I felt like a failure.

We’ve all, when you have to rely on somebody else , or somebody else tells you, “Hey, we don’t think you can do this on your own, come over here and we’ll take care of you.” That’s basically what I was told. So it was hard to accept that and to live with that reality. So we did, and I worked hard and it was a blessing really, to not have to worry about how much health care costs or have some of the things to supplement to feed our family and stuff. So it was great and it was wonderful.

But then I got the email from the state saying, “Hey, you’re being audited. We’re just looking at things and we’re not sure. You’ve been getting too much help.” So at that point I’m just sitting there frustrated because I’m working my butt off, just trying to make things happen, become someone involved in the film community in Utah. And I was, and everyone knew me, and I had a reputation, but I still was a nobody in the eyes of the government.

So I went to Facebook to whine, looking for what I wanted, which was a pat on the back, “There, there Nic, you’re doing…we know you’re a good dude and you’re working hard.” That kind of thing, and I did…

Russell: I was reading the comments last night. “Oh you’re doing a good job man. Good luck.” Everyone like babying him about how tough life can be.

Nic: So I got what I wanted, but it still didn’t change anything. I still had to submit my last two years of tax returns and all of the pay that I’d got and everything like that, so they could look at our case number, not Nic, Leisle, Cloe,Ewen, Alek, William. So it was just one of those things.

I got what I wanted, then comes Russell to give me what I needed, which was….

Russell: I saw that and I’m like packing the kids bags and everything and I was like, “ah, do I say something?” I don’t want to be that guy like, “Hey, 20 years ago…” and I was like, ah, I kept feeling this. Finally I was like, “hey man, I know we haven’t talked in over 20 years…” This was on Facebook messenger, “we hadn’t talked in like 20 years. I saw your post today and it sucks. And I know what’s wrong, and I can help. But at the same time, I don’t want to be that guy and I don’t want to step on any toes. I know we haven’t talked in 20 years, I have no idea if this is even appropriate. But I know what’s wrong, I can help you. And no, this is not some cheesy MLM I’m trying to pitch you on. But if you’re interested in some coaching, I know what’s wrong.” And I kind of waited and then I started packing the bags again and stuff like that.

I’m curious of your thoughts initially as you saw that.

Nic: It’s funny because my phone was kind of blowing up with the comments. So I would hear the little ding and I would check. And then I saw that it was a message from Russell, and we had said like, “Hey, what’s up.” And had a few tiny little small talk conversations, but nothing in depth personal. So I saw that he sent a message, so I’m like, “Sweet.”

So I look at it, and I was half expecting, because I knew he was successful, I didn’t know about Clickfunnels per se. I knew he had something going on that was awesome, but I didn’t know what it was.

So I was wondering, “I wonder what he’s going to say, what he has to say about things?” But I read it and it was funny because when you said, “I don’t want to overstep my bounds. It’s been a long time, I don’t want to step on toes.” Kind of thing, Russell, we all know his athletic accolades and stuff. I was a great basketball player too, I was in the top 200 players in the country my senior year and stuff like that. So I’ve been coachable and played at high levels and been coached by high level guys. So when I read it and he said, “I know what’s wrong and I can help you.” I was just like, “Yes.”

That was my reaction. I just did the little, um, fist pump, let’s do this. So I replied back and I thanked him for reaching out and stuff, and I just said, I think I even said, “I’m coachable. I will accept any guidance.” And things like that. Because up until that point in my life, especially in sports, if a coach showed me something, I would do it the way he did, and I would kick the other dude’s butt. I didn’t care. I played against guys who made millions of dollars in the NBA. I dunked, I posterized on Shawn Marion when he was at UNLV my freshman year of college. I started as a freshman in a division one school in college. So I would take, I’ve always been that kind of, I would get that guidance, that direction, I can put it to work.

So I was just like, “Dude, Mr. Miyagi me.” I’m 8 days older than him, so I’m like, “young grasshopper, yes you can teach me.” That kind of thing. So I welcomed it and I was excited. I had no idea, because again I didn’t know what he did. I just knew he had a level of success that I didn’t have. And if he was willing to give me some ideas, I was going to hear him out for sure.

Russell: It was fun, because then I messaged him back. I’m packing the car and Collette’s like, “We gotta go, we gotta go.” I was like, ah, so I get the thing out and I was like, “This is the deal. I’m driving to Bear Lake, it’s like a six hour drive. I’m going to give you an assignment and if you do it, then I’ll give you the next piece. But most people never do it, so if you don’t that’s cool and I’ll just know it’s not worth your time. But if it’s really worth your time, do this thing. I need you to go back and listen to my podcast from episode one and listen to as many episodes as possible, and if you do that I’ll make you a customized episode just for you telling you exactly what’s wrong and how to fix it. But you have to do that first.

“And I’m not telling you this because I’m on some ego trip, but just trust me. The problem is not your skill set, you  have mad skills, you’re good at everything. It’s all a problem between your ears. If we can shift that, we can shift everything else.” Then I jumped in my car and took off and started driving for six hours. And then the next day, or a day later you’re like, “I’m 14 episodes in.” he was still listening to the crappy one’s, according to Steven Larsen. The Marketing In Your Car, he was probably thinking, “This is the worst thing I’ve ever heard, ever.”

But he did it. I said do it, he did it. And he kept doing it and doing it, and so two days into my family vacation I had Norah, you guys all know Norah right. She’s the coolest. But she won’t go to bed at night, she’s a nightmare. Don’t let that cute face trick you, she’s evil. So I’m like, I can’t go to sleep, so finally I was like, I’m going to plug her in the car and drive around the lake until she falls asleep.

So I plug her in the car, strap her in and I start driving. And I’m like, this could be a long, long thing. She’s just smiling back here. I was like ugh. I’m like you know what, I’m going to do my episode for Nic. So I got my phone out, I clicked record and for probably almost an hour, it was an hour. I’m driving around the lake and I explain to him what I see. Did anyone here listen to that episode? I’m curious.

I’m going to map out really quick, the core concept. Because some of you guys may be stuck in this, and the goal of this, what I want to do is I want to map this out, and then what’s funny is last year at Bear Lake, so a year later we had this thing where I was like, we should do a second round where I do a year later, this is the advice now. And I wrote a whole outline for it and I totally never did it. So I’m going to go through that outline now, and kind of show him the next phase. So you cool if I show kind of what I talked about?

Nic: For sure.

Russell: Alright, so those who missed the podcast episode, who haven’t been binge listening, you’ve all failed the test, now you must go back to episode number one, listen to the cheesy jingle and get to episode, I don’t know what it was. Okay, I’ve said this before, if you look at any business, any organization, there’s three core people. The first one is the person at the top who is the entrepreneur.

The cool thing about the entrepreneur is the entrepreneur is the person who makes the most amount of money. They’re the head and they get the most amount of money. The problem with the entrepreneur is they also have the most risk, so they’re most likely to lose everything. I’ve lost everything multiple times because I’m the guy risking everything. But the nice thing is entrepreneurs that write their own paychecks, there’s no ceilings. So they can make as much as they want. They can make a million, ten million, a hundred million, they can do whatever they want because there’s no ceiling. So that’s the first personality type.

The second personality type over here is what we call the technicians. The technicians are the people who actually do the work. And what’s funny, if you look at this, people who go to college are the technicians. What do they do, they look down on entrepreneurs, they look down on sales people. “Oh you’re in sales. What are you a doctor?” For crying out loud in the night. But they look down on people like us. Because “I’m a doctor. I went to 45 years of school.”

What’s interesting, there’s technicians in all sorts of different spots right. I actually feel bad, I shouldn’t say this out loud, but at the airport here I saw one of my friends who is an amazing doctor and him and his wife were leaving on a trip and we were talking and he said, “This is the first trip my wife and I have been on in 25 years, together by ourselves.” I’m like, “What?” and he’s like, ‘Well, we had medical school and then we had kids and then we had to pay off medical school and all these things. Now the kids are gone and now we finally have a chance to leave.” I was like, wow. Our whole lives we’ve heard that medical school, becoming a doctor is the…..anyway that’s a rant for another day.

But I was like, there’s technicians. And what’s interesting about technicians, they don’t have any risk. So there’s no risk whatsoever, but they do have, there’s a price ceiling on every single person that’s a technician, right. And depending on what job you have your price ceiling is different. So doctors, the price ceiling is, I have no idea what doctor’s make, $500 grand a year is like the price ceiling, that’s amazing but they can’t go above that. And different tasks, different roles, different position all have different price ceilings.

But there’s like, this role as a technician makes this much, and this one makes this much and you’re all kind of these things. I said the problem with you right now, you have these amazing skill sets, but you are stuck as a technician in a role where they’re capping you out, where the only thing you can make is $25k a year.

Remember I asked you, “What have you been doing?” and you’re like, “Oh, I’ve been networking, I’ve been learning, I’ve been getting my skills up, getting amazing.” I’m like, “That’s amazing, you’re skills are awesome, but your ceiling is $25k a year. No matter how good you get you are stuck because you’re in a technician role right now.”

I said, “you’ve got a couple of options. One is go become an entrepreneur, which is scary because you’ve got four kids at home and you don’t have money anyway.” I am so eternally grateful that when I started this game, my wife, first off, we didn’t have kids yet, my wife was working, we didn’t have any money but I didn’t have to have any money at that time, and I’m so grateful I was able to sometimes, I was able to risk things that nowadays is hard. For you to come jump out on your own initially and just be like, “Boom, I’m an entrepreneur and I’m selling this stuff.” That’s scary right, because you’ve got all this risk.

So I was like, that’s the thing, but it’s going to be really, really hard. I said, “there’s good news, there’s one more spot in this ecosystem. And the cool thing about that spot it’s that it’s just like the entrepreneur, there’s no ceiling, now the third spot over here is what we call the rainmakers. The rainmakers are the people who come into a business and they know how to make it rain. This is the people who know how to bring people into a company. Leads, they bring leads in. They know all this traffic stuff they’re talking about. These are the people who know how to sell to leads and actually get money out of peoples wallets and put it into the hands of the entrepreneurs.

These people right here, the rainmakers don’t  have ceilings. In fact, companies who give the rainmaker the ceiling are the stupidest people in the world, because the rainmaker will hit the ceiling and then they’ll stop. If you’re smart and you have a company, and you have rainmakers, people driving traffic, people doing sales, if you have a ceiling they will hit and they will stop. If you get rid of the ceiling and then all the sudden they have as much as they want, they have less risk than the entrepreneur, but they have the ability to make unlimited amount of money.

I said, “Your skill set over here as a technician is worth 25k a year, but if you take your skill set and shift it over here and say, “I come into a company and I’m a rainmaker. I create videos, I create stories, they’ll sell more products, more things.” Suddenly you’re not worth 25,000, now you’re worth $100,000, you’re worth $500,000. You’re worth whatever you’re able to do, because there’s no ceiling anymore.

And that was the point of the podcast. I got done sending it, then I sent it to him and I sent it to my brother to edit it. And I have no idea what you thought about it at that point, because we didn’t talk for a while after that. But I’m curious where you went from there.

Nic: So the first thing, you know, being told I was really only worth $25,000 in the eyes of the people who were hiring me, that was a punch in the gut. That sucked to hear. Thanks man. It was just like, I literally was working 12, 14, 16 hour days, lifting heavy stuff, I did a lot with lighting and camera work, not necessarily the story writing stuff, but you know, for him to put it so perfectly, that I was a technician. I thought going in, when I failed as an advisor and I started my own company, or started doing videos for people, and being so scared to charge somebody $250 for a video, being like, “they’re going to say no.” That kind of thing, and now I wouldn’t blink my eyes for that.

But you know, it’s one of those things for him to tell it to me that way, just straight forward being like, “You are, you’re learning great skills and you’re meeting amazing people.” I worked with Oscar winners and Emmy winners and stuff in the movies and shows that I worked on, but again, I was only worth that much, they had a finite amount of money, and I was a small part of it, so I got a small piece.

So listening to all of that, and then hearing the entrepreneur, the risk and stuff. I’m really tall, I’m 6’9” if you didn’t know. I’m a sink or swim guy, but because I’m tall I can reach the bottom of the pool a lot easier. When I jumped in, we had lost, as a financial advisor we had lost our home and we lost all these things. So I was like, I have nothing left to lose. Worst case scenario, and I had never heard that mindset before. We were renting a basement from a family members, our cars were paid off. Worst case scenario is we stayed there and get food stamps and that kind of thing. There was nowhere to go but up from there.

So for me, I was just so excited. I’m like, I want to be a rainmaker, I want to be an entrepreneur, but I didn’t know where to find the people that I could do that for. So I was in this thing where I was still getting lots of calls to work as a technician, but I didn’t want to do that anymore. I didn’t want to put myself, my body, my family through me being gone and then when I’m home I’m just a bump on a log because I’m so wiped out, all that kind of stuff.

So that was my biggest first thing, the action point for me. I started thinking, okay how do I transition out of this? How do I get myself out and start meeting the right people, the right kinds of clients who do have budgets and things like that, and how do I make it rain for them. That’s when I made that shift from working as a technician. I told myself I’m not going to do it anymore. The last time I technically worked as a technician was about 9 months ago. It was for a friend.

So I made that shift and it was just amazing. Like Russell was talking about earlier, when you start to track it or when it’s part of your mindset, things start to show up and happen. You meet the right people and stuff. So those things just started, just by listening to that one hour long thing, I started changing and then the black box I got, Expert Secrets and Dotcom Secrets and started going through that as well. And it was just like, you see in the Funnel Hacker TV, that moment where the guy goes, “RAAAAA” that’s what happened with me. It was like a whole new world, Aladdin was singing. He was Aladdin and I was Jasmine, with a beard.

Russell: I can show you the world.

Nic: Exactly. But that’s what really, literally happened with me.

Russell: That’s cool. Alright this is like summertime, he’s going through this process now, figuring things, changing things, shifting things, he’s changing his mindset. We go through the summer, we go through Christmas and then last year’s Funnel Hacking Live, were we in February or March last year? March, and so before Funnel Hacking Live we kind of just touched base every once in a while, seeing how things are going. He’s like, “Things are going good. I’m figuring things out.”

 And then Funnel Hacking Live was coming, and I remember because we’re sitting there, and I think he messaged me or something, “Funnel Hacking looks awesome I wish I could make it.” I was like, “Why don’t you come?” And you’re like, “I just can’t make it yet.” I was like, “How about this man, I guarantee you if you show up it’ll change your life forever. I’m not going to pay for your flights or your hotel, but if you can figure out how to get there, I’ll give you a free ticket.” And that’s I said, “if you can come let Melanie know, and that’s it.”

And I didn’t really know much, because you guys know in the middle of Funnel Hacking Live my life is chaos trying to figure out and how to juggle and all that stuff. So the next thing I know at Funnel Hacking Live, we’re sitting there and during the session I’m looking out and I see Nic standing there in the audience. And I was like, ‘I have no idea how he got there, but he’s there. Freaking good for him.” And I have no idea, how did you get there? That wasn’t probably an easy process for you was it?

Nic: No. Credit cards. It was one of those things, I looked at flights. As soon as we had that conversation, it was funny because I was, I can’t remember what was going on, but it was a day or two before I responded back to his invitation. And I was like, I’d be stupid to say no. I have no idea how I’m going to get there. I think I even said, “I’ll hitch hike if I have to, to get there.” Can you imagine this giant sasquatch on route 66 trying to get to Florida.

But I told my wife about it, and this is where Russell might have this in common. My wife is incredible and super supportive and she let me go. And we didn’t have the money in the bank so I said, “I’m going to put this on the credit card, and as soon as I get back I’m going to go to work and I’ll pay it off. I’ll get a couple clients and it will be fine.” So I booked the hotel, luckily I was able to get somebody who wasn’t able to go at the last minute and I got their hotel room, and I got the lfight and I came in and I was in the tornado warnings, like circling the airport for 5 hours, like the rest of you were.

So I got there and I just remember I was just so excited. Walking in the room the very first day, the doors open and you all know what it’s like. I don’t have to relive this story. I remember I walked in and the hair on my arms, it was just like {whistling}. It was incredible, just the energy and the feeling. And I was like, t his is so cool. And then the very first speech, I was like that was worth every penny to get here. If I left right now it would have all been worth it. And you all know because you’re sitting here, you’ve felt that too.

So that was my, getting there was like, “Honey, I know we don’t have the money, we have space on the credit card, and when I get home I swear I will work hard and it will be okay.” And she’s like, “Okay, go.” So I did.

Russell: So now I want to talk about, not day one, or day two, but on day three at Funnel Hacking Live. How many of you guys remember what happened on day three? Russell sneak attacked all you guys. I was like, if I start going “Secret one, Secret two, Secret three” you guys will be like, “Here it is.” Sitting back. I was like, how do I do the Perfect webinar without people knowing it’s the perfect webinar? And I’m figuring this whole thing out, trying to figure that out. And we built a nice presentation, create an amazing offer for this program you guys are all in.

And as you know, all you guys got excited and ran to the back to sign up and now you’re here. But you told me this personally, I hope you’re willing to share. But I thought it was amazing because you didn’t sign up that night. And I would love to hear what happened from then to the next day, and kind of go through that process.

Nic: So this is my first Clickfunnels, I was all new to this whole thing. I was so excited when the 12 month millionaire presentation came up and I was like, “This is awesome.” Then I see it in the stack and I’m like, “I’m seeing the wizard,  I can see the wizard doing his thing.” And I was just so excited, and then the price. And it was a punch in a gut to me, because I was so, listening to it I was like, ‘This is what I need. This is what I want, this is what I need. It’s going to be amazing.” And then the price came and seriously, the rest of the night I was just like….

The rest of the presentation and everything after that I was just kind of zoned out. I just didn’t know what to do. Because I knew I needed it so badly and I’m like, that’s almost twice what we’re paying in rent right now. You know, it was just like, how am I going to justify this when I’m on food stamps and Medicaid and all this kind of stuff. You know, “yes, I’m on that but I dropped this money on a coaching program.”

Russell: “From this internet coach.”

Nic: Right. And so I’m having this mental battle and get back home to my room that night and I didn’t go hang out with people. I just was not feeling it. And I remember texting my wife on the walk back to the room. And I took the long way around the pond, just slowly depressedly meandering back to my room. And I’m texting her and I’m telling her how amazing it was and what the program would do and all that kind of stuff, and she’s like, “That sounds great.”

And I’m purposely not saying how much it’s going to cost, just to get her excited about it, so I can maybe do a stack with her right. “For this and this….” See if I could try it. I didn’t, I failed when it came to doing that. I told her the price and she’s like, “That’s a lot of money. How are you going to pay for it.” And I’m like, “I don’t know.” And I’m like, “The only thing I can do, because I have to sign up while I’m here, and pay for it while I’m here. I can put it on the credit card and then we will figure it out.”

So we talked a lot and I talked to my dad and it was the same thing. He was like, “Man, that’s a lot.” Just the scarcity mindset that a lot of us have with our family members and support system who aren’t, don’t think, who aren’t the crazy ones.

So I went to bed and I got emotional, and I slept so so bad. Just didn’t sleep well that whole night. And again, I talked to my wife again the next morning, and I just, we just said, “It would be awesome. But I can’t do it, so I’m just going to work hard and figure something out and then if it ever opens up again, then I’ll be in a position to do it.” So I left my room that morning with that in my mind. I made the mistake of keeping my wallet in my pocket though, because I’m here.

I again made the long walk back and kind of gave myself a pep talk like, “Don’t worry about that kind of stuff. Just more value out of it, meet more people.” So that’s when I left my room that morning, that’s where my mind was.

Russell: What happened next?

Nic: I walked into the room and Kevin Hansen, who I had, it’s funny, he does a lot of editing for Clickfunnels, and he and I had actually met independent of Clickfunnels before. It was one of those things like, “Oh you do, oh my gosh.” and it was like 2 months after we’d met. So I was talking to him, just chitchatting, and I just had right then in my mind, it was like, “Walk over to the table and sign up. If you don’t do it now, you’re never going to do it.” And it was just one of those things, because I’d given myself that speech, that whole five minute walk across the property.

So I finished up talking with him and I just said, “I’ll be right back.” And I walked straight over to the table, got out the credit card, wrote it all down, and I’m like, I don’t even know what my limit is, so I hope whenever they run this that it goes through. I don’t know what’s going to happen. So I did and I got that little silver ribbon that we all got. And again, {whistling} chills. Like I was like, holy crap, this is amazing. I put it on my little lanyard thing and I was just like, I couldn’t believe it. The adrenaline and all that stuff of, “I’m doing it. And my wife is going to kill me when I get back home.”

So that’s, then I went and got my seat and I was just floating, you know. I was so amped, I could have “Steven Larsened” it and screamed over the noise of everybody else and it would have been very, you would have heard it. So that’s what I did that morning. I was like, ‘Not going to do it, not going to do it, not going to do it.” I walked in, 60 seconds done. You have my money.

Russell: So I’m curious, when did you tell your wife? This is like a marriage counseling session, huh?

Nic: yeah, do you have a couch I can lay down on?

Russell: A big couch.

Nic: yeah, really. So I got home and I didn’t tell her, at all. I didn’t. I said, the clock is ticking. I have 30 days until that hits, or 20 days until the credit card statement comes and she’s like, “Wait, why is there an extra $2000 bucks on here?” So I just, I said, I’ve got some time because my wife, she’s 5’3”, she’s dainty, little petite lady, but she’s not scary I guess. But this is the first time I was really scared to tell her something in our marriage.

So I just said, I’m just going to hit the road hard and see what I can come up with to cover at least the $1800 and the hotel, for what I racked up at Funnel Hacking Live, and then that will get me another 30 days to figure something out. So I went and I never told her until the credit card statement came and she saw it. She’s like, “What’s this?”

But what happened before that, I don’t know, do you have something after that or do you want me to go to the next part? Okay, so me going to work and being like, “I gotta find it.” and it’s funny that night at Funnel Hacking Live, I went on Facebook and I created some half thought through offer where it was like, “Hey if I can get like 5 people locally where I’m at to do a monthly low number where I create a couple of videos for a monthly retainer, that will cover it and I can figure it. But nobody nibbled on it.

So I got home and I started just trying to figure stuff out. And I had met another lady who had a company and she uses Clickfunnels for her course. And it was funny, I talked to her before I went to Funnel Hacking Live, and we were talking and she was like, “Do you know Clickfunnels?” And I was like, “That’s so crazy. I do.” Because I’d never met anybody else that had. So I got home and I shot a little video with her, it was a test to do some modules for her course and she loved it and it was great. So we were talking about, she had like 20 videos she wanted to do and we were talking about budget, and I just said, “you know what, for that much, for that many videos and all this kind of stuff, it’s going to be $25,000.” And she didn’t even blink. She’s like, “Perfect, that’s great.”

Thank you, you guys. You’re going to make me cry. Thank you.  And that was like maybe two weeks after I got home that that happened. And I left her house and I tried my hardest not to do a jump heel click going down her driveway, out to my car, and I got around the corner and I messaged Russell like, “dude, you’ll never guess. I just closed my first 5 figure deal and this is what it was…” and he was like, “That’s so cool.” You know.

But it was the whole plata o plomo thing, I would never have the guts to ask for something like that, I know that I should and that my skills and what I can do are worth that and more, and it’s been proven to me again and again since then, but to ask the first time, that first time you have a big ask and you’re just throwing yourself out there, and if she would have said no…Now what am I going to do? Because I had actually done another pitch where I did like a webinar pitch where I  had a stack and slides and stuff because it was for a Chamber of Commerce, and I wanted to charge them 2500 a month to do like 4 videos a year.

And I did the whole thing like, “If you do it, it’s $2500 a month, or if you do it all right now it’s this…” that whole you know, and they passed on it. I was like, ugh. So it was just one of those things where being around y’all, that was my first experience being around entrepreneurs, really. I have friends who have had businesses, but I felt weird for wanting to create my own thing or being selfish because I have four kids. Like why don’t you go get a real job? All those conversations that you hear and have with yourself, especially when things aren’t going great.

But it was like okay, I have to get it done or I have to drop out. And I just, even in that short amount of time I received so much value from the people I was beginning to meet, and then as the content started coming out I was like, “There’s no way I could live without this after having a taste of it.” So that was my, I had to get it done and it worked out.

Russell: Amazing, I love that story. So coo. Alright, so since then, how many of you guys have watched his….are you daily or almost daily Facebook Lives?

Nic: Pretty much, almost daily. I’ll miss some…

Russell: How many of you guys have watched his daily Facebook lives, he’s doing what we’re saying right. He’s doing it. He’s doing it. I see it, I see it coming in my feed. It pops in my feed over and over. He’s doing what we’re talking about. He’s attracting people, he’s telling stories. All the stuff we’re talking about, he’s been doing it. But part of it, he had to have that emotion, that plata o plomo moment and then he hit it and it’s just like, he’s been running and running and running and running. And it’s been so insanely fun to watch the progress and the growth.

Some of you guys know he put out an event that’s coming up this weekend and sold out in 5 seconds. He’s like, “I sold out, should I make it bigger?” and I’m like, “No people should have responded to you faster, it’s their fault. Sell it out because next time it will be easier to sell it out again and easier to sell out again.” But he did it by giving tons of value. Telling stories, telling stories, telling stories, providing more value to you guys, to other entrepreneurs, other people in the community and people are noticing. All the stuff we talked about today, he’s doing it. Consistently, consistently, consistently doing it.

That was so cool. I don’t even know where to go from here. Alright I know where to go from here. Before I move into this, was it scary?

Nic: All of it scary? Well, this is what, back to my competitive days, I don’t care who, I’d played against the best players in the country at high levels. And I didn’t care if you were going to the NBA, being recruited by Duke, once we got into the lines I didn’t care who you were, I was going to make you look silly. I would hold, you wouldn’t score a point on me, or I would just like out work you and if you wanted to get anywhere I was in your face the whole time.

And so this was a whole different game for me. I remember Myron talking about in his speech at Funnel Hacking Live, you have to stay in the game long enough to learn the game, and I was new to this game. Like brand new, less than 12 months when I went to Funnel Hacking Live. And it was terrifying because, not necessarily because I didn’t think I could do it, I was just worried when, how long it would take. Like am I going to go and just spin my wheels and it’s going to be 15 years, 2099 and I’m wheeling up across to get my reward from him in his wheelchair, just like, “Hey buddy.” You know, that kind of thing.

I just didn’t know how to make it happen quick. That kind of stuff. So I was definitely scared, not necessarily of failing, because I had failed before, I was just scared how long it was going to take.

Russell: one of the best moments for me was this summer, him and his family were driving home from, I can’t remember where, they were driving through Boise, and he’s like, “Can we swing by and say hi? My kids want to meet you, my wife wants to meet you.” That’s always scary when you haven’t met someone’s wife or kids and you’re like, what if they hate me.

And I remember I started thinking, oh my gosh. He spent all his money coming out here, and then he bought the thing, she might legitimately want to kill me. I have no idea. I was a little bit nervous. And I came and met them and the kids, it was super cool. I remember the coolest thing, your wife just looked at me and she said, “Thank you.” And I was like, how cool is that? Just the coolest thing. Thank you for convincing, persuading, whatever the things are to do this thing.

I think sometimes as entrepreneurs we feel the guilt or the nervousness of, “Should I sell somebody something? Is it right, is it wrong?” You have to understand when you’re doing it, it’s not a selfish thing for you. It’s like, how do I get this person to take the action they need to do. Because most people won’t do it until they make an investment. It’s just human nature. They’ll keep dinking around and dinking around, whatever it is until they have a commitment, until they make that covenant, like Myron talked about earlier, people don’t change.

So in any aspect of life, you want someone to make a change, there’s got to be something that causes enough pain to cause the change, which is why we have the program. We could have priced the program really, really cheap but I was like, “No we won’t.” We legitimately wanted to make a plata o plomo moment for everybody. You’ll notice, when the program signup, not everybody who signed up is here today. Some people fell away, some of them left, things happen and I totally understand, but I wanted to make it painful enough that we get people to move.

And there are people in this room, I’ve joked about, Nic probably shouldn’t have bought that. If he would have asked I would’ve been like, “No dude, don’t. What are you thinking? Why would you do that?” as a friend this is weird, but I’m so grateful. Are you grateful you did?

Nic: Absolutely.

Russell: Where’s Marie Larsen, is she still in here? I talked about this in the podcast. She was in the same situation, she should not have signed up for it, it’s insane. I saw this text she sent Steven, she’s like, how much did you have in your bank account when you signed up for it? $70 in the bank account, $1800 a month bill she signed up for. And then it started happening and she was freaking out how it’s going, if you guys haven’t listened to the podcast, Lean In, yet I told the whole story. But it got nervous month one, then month two happened and she’s like, “Oh my gosh, I need to leave. I can’t afford this.” And she’s talking with Steven and Steven’s like, “Well, you could leave and walk away, or you could lean in.” so she decided, “Okay, I’m going to lean in.” So she leaned in, and I’ve watched as her business over the last 3, 4, 5, 6 months is growing and it’s growing and it’s growing because she leaned in. Tough times will come, every single time it comes, but those who lean in are the ones who make it through that, and who grow and who build huge businesses.

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]]> 2954 no Virtual Real Estate https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/virtual-real-estate One of the fastest ways to make money without having to build an actual business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Right now, I've been working on Funnel Hacking Live and planning and preparing a bunch of really cool things. I want to share with you guys a concept that I'm working on for potentially a presentation at Funnel Hacking Live, so you’ve got to tell me if you think it’s cool. If so, I'm going to flush this out and show you guys the magic. With that said, queue up the theme song and when we come back I’m going to talk about virtual real estate secrets. All right. So Funnel Hacking Live is coming. I'm pumped. I'm excited. We're planning out the event, the venue, the excitement, the speakers, the presentations, what I want you guys to get. I'm time-lining, storyboarding out the entire thing. If you knew how much goes into Funnel Hacking live, you'd be pretty excited. For those who have been in the past, you know it is a huge show. And for those who haven't been yet, this year is going to be the best ever. And why? Because, number one, I'm hoping by then, most of the COVID restrictions are done and we can just have a normal event. If not, we've got some backup and contingency plans. But for most of us, we haven't hung out for a long time, and I want to get together, hang out with a bunch of funnel hackers. So the parties on. We're doing it. It's happening in Florida. If you don't have your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. It's coming up this September. But regardless, the reason why I'm here today is tell you guys I've been planning this event and I've got some really cool stuff I'm going to share. We have some big updates. There's so much, so much stuff that they're constraining me from speaking. I'm not allowed to tell you guys, but regardless, I promise you, you will want to be there. It's going to be worth it. We do have virtual options this year, and so for those who can't physically come, you can watch. You can attend virtually as well. But anyway, I'm working on some ideas for content and I have something I want to talk about. It's been on my mind for literally, probably 10, 12 years, and it's this concept of virtual real estate. Okay? Obviously, most of you guys know what real estate is, right? You buy houses, you flip houses, you rehab houses, no money down, all this stuff. There's a million different ways to make money in real estate. But as cool as that is, real estate typically cost a lot of money if you go and do the thing, which is kind of annoying. And so, I want to talk about this concept called virtual real estate, which is web properties. What's interesting is anything you can do with a real property, like actual real estate, you can do the same things with virtual real estate, especially as you start becoming a master of all these principles and these concepts you've been learning from us, right? You learn about funnel building and traffic generation and copy and storytelling and all these things. When you learn and start mastering these things, you can literally do the exact same things that people are doing with real estate, but with virtual real estate. And honestly, it's a lot more profitable, a lot less startup costs and things like that. For example, let's say I want to go into actual real estate. So I'm going to go find a house and I'm going to find a house that's underpriced. I'm going to buy it. So say I find a house for 200 grand or whatever. I buy this house. I'm going to take them. I'm going to fix it up. I'm going to slap some paint on it. I'm going to throw in a new washer and dryer, a new refrigerator. I'm going to, whatever, lipstick and rouge to make this house nice, and then I'm to go flip it and make like $50,000 profit, right? There's a strategy in regular real estate, right? Now, you may be saying, "Well, how does that work in virtual real estate?" Okay. Well, there's a lot of people who create some insanely cool products who don't know what you know, and there's a lot of places to find these things. One of them is flippa.com, which is a cool place that is literally a marketplace, people selling websites and products and businesses that they created but they couldn't figure it out. And there's tons of other marketplaces. I don't have them here on top of my head, but Flippa is one of my favorites I go to. Almost daily, I look at Flippa. There's other ones out there. I think Shopify's got a marketplace, all their old Shopify store owners to sell there's. Anyway, there's a lot of out there. But basically you go to these stores and you find something where someone's got a really, really cool product, but they suck at what? All the stuff that you're good at, right? It's like a house, that you find this underpriced house. Yeah, the house looks like crap, but I know all you got to do is throw some lipstick on this thing, some paint, a new refrigerator, and this thing's something going to be worth $50,000 more. Right? You can do the same thing online. You can buy a website for five grand, 10 grand, 50 grand, 100 grand, whatever it is, a lot less typically than a house. You buy the thing and say, "Okay. I know these principles now. I understand this thing needs a funnel. I found a Shopify that's got a whole product line, whole bunch of SKUs, but no one's buying it because there's no funnel. So I know how to build a funnel." Right? Your funnel is your version of some paint you're slapping up on thing, or you're putting in a new fridge and a dishwasher to make the resell value go up. You put a funnel in. You guys know traffic generation after read traffic secrets. You plug in some traffic, start driving traffic. People go through the funnel. You make some money and follow up sequence, then plugs them into the Shopify store. And boom, all of a sudden, this thing that's making no money you buy for five grand is now making five grand a month, 10 grand a month, 100 grand a month, whatever it is. Now you can take that and you can flip it, or you can just keep it like cash flow. Right? You can do the same thing with a house. You can let the house cashflow, or you can flip it or a whole bunch of other things. Okay. It's powerful. I think this is primarily my fault. I obviously am very passionate and excited about me and you guys creating businesses out of our minds, like creating courses and products. I talk a lot about that or creating e-commerce stuff. You go and you find a product and you source it from China or whatever. We talk about those things a lot. But what people don't talk about is the fact that there's tons, millions of businesses that people built that are there that are just dead or they're mostly dead. Well, you can come in and buy them at a huge discount where the product's figured out, the content, that all the stuff's done. They just don't have traffic. They just don't have the funnel. They just don't have a good video. They don't have good storytelling. They don't have like the things that you have now. You don't have to go create anything from scratch. You just go buy these things for pennies on a dollar. Buy it, apply it with lipstick and rouge that you've been learning through all the stuff I've been teaching now for the last two decades. And all of a sudden, you can start making money out of the gate. And so, secretly, as I've been thinking about Funnel Hacking Live now for the last year, since we hung out last, I've been thinking about this. I was like, "I want to do this. I want to show some case studies of me doing it." And so when COVID hit, a lot of businesses went under. A lot of businesses got shut down. A lot of them, they lost their cashflow. A lot of them, like all sorts of things start happening. So I started looking for these opportunities and I started buying a handful of them. I won't be able to show you guys now because we're in the process of... At Funnel Hacking Live, I'll be able to show you, "Hey, I bought this company right here. I bought it for $50,000. I applied this funnel, this traffic strategy, these three things, put it up online. Now it's making 10 grand a month. I bought this one right here for this. I bought this one for free. I just had to cover the new inventory costs, paid for inventory costs. I applied this funnel, this funnel, this funnel, boom, launched it and look what happened." I'm going to have tons of case studies to show you guys. So that's kind of something to look forward to Funnel Hacking Live. But for right now, I want you guys thinking about it as well. Okay? It's on my mind. It's fun. It's exciting. Think about it. What businesses are out there that you could buy, you could partner with, you could take equity in? You went out of business. You could go get the assets and you can turn it back into a business. You turn it back on. If you look at Tai Lopez right now. You could say what you want. Some people love it. Some people hate him. I have so much respect for him. I think he's the man. I've hung out with him a bunch of times, and one thing that he's killing on right now, he went and he bought Radio Shack. They're going under. He bought Radio Shack and he's flipping it now. He bought Franklin Mint. He bought Pier One Imports. He's buying all these crazy companies. It is literally nuts. He's buying them for pennies on the dollar, flipping them, turning them into e-commerce, shutting down the physical locations, and he's killing it with it right now. It's like this is what I'm talking but at a small scale. Tai's doing this huge scale. Even I'm like, "That's ridiculous. You bought Pier One Imports, dude, like that's nuts." Or Radio Shack? Come on, Radio Shack? It's just insane, but that's the deals he's doing now which, yeah, we can get there someday. But right now, there's tons of little deals, tons of little things you can go. And just for today, for fun, go to flippa.com, F-L-I-P-P-A .com. Go there and just scroll through. Look for all the businesses that are for sale and just look at them and say... This is the mental exercise. Look at a business and say, "Okay, this is a house. I'm going to rehab this house. If I was to buy this house, what funnels would I apply to make this thing successful?" For example, one of the ones that I am recently acquired is a supplement company. And so supplement companies, they had a Shopify store. They had product. The products are really, really good, but they don't have funnels. So what funnels would I apply? I'm like, well, first off, they need a supplement funnel. So there's a supplement funnel. Second, I'm like, what can we create to get more people into the funnel? Well, we can make a challenge tied to the supplements. There's a challenge funnel. There's a supplement funnel, and so those things. Then it's like now... the people that had it before, they had a lot of organic traffic. They were selling on Amazon and things like that, but they had no traffic. It's like, well, who's our dream 100? What's the traffic strategy? And then it's like, well, they don't have anything to sell us other than just a picture of the product. What's the story we can tell? What's the videos we can make to capture the story of this product? And so I'm just going through dot-com secrets, expert secrets, traffic secrets, applying, applying, applying these little principles that you've been getting forever. We'll launch this company and it'll be live before Funnel Hacking Live. You'll have a chance to see it, but that's what we're doing. That's the game plan. So if you guys go look at that, and really what's nice about this is a lot of times you can buy these things for pennies on the dollar. You don't have to go and actually be the front person, the guru, whatever. You just got to create the different assets, create the pieces, plug them all in there, and that quickly you guys have, just again, it's just lipstick and rouge, is you're putting the paint up on the house. You're plugging in the whatever's on the front end. You're fixing the washer and dryer, where those things are. And all of a sudden, you guys' business is cranking. Again, imagine you buy a business for five grand, and within, by applying two funnels and one traffic strategy or one funnel and two traffic strategies, now it's netting five grand a month. Holy cow! How many times could you do that? Just because you may not be able to like, "Ah, I'm not good on video. I don't know how to create a product. I don't remember frameworks like you could." All the excuses that so many people have when they hear my stuff. It's like, "Cool, then don't." Go buy something and let's rehab it. Let's fix it. Let's flip it. Let's cashflow it. There's so many strategies that are so simple, and all of this is taking the same principles that you've learned, that you understand, that we've been talking about and applying it to these kinds of business. So there you go. Hope that helps. Hope it gives you some ideas. If you're not at Funnel Hacking Live, you're insane. We're going to be going deep in this stuff. It's going to be so much fun. Make sure you're there. I'll be sharing these case studies examples, showing you guys what we're doing, how we're doing it, why we're doing it, and hopefully get you fired up and excited. With that said, I am going to go to flippa.com and go find another business to buy because I need some more case studies for you guys. So appreciate you all. Hope this helps. Hope to get the wheels in your head spinning, and I'll see you guys at Funnel Hacking Live. Go get your tickets, funnelhackinglive.com. Thanks everybody, and we'll see you soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 31 Mar 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Virtual Real Estate full 401 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of the fastest ways to make money without having to build an actual business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the... One of the fastest ways to make money without having to build an actual business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Right now, I've been working on Funnel Hacking Live and planning and preparing a bunch of really cool things. I want to share with you guys a concept that I'm working on for potentially a presentation at Funnel Hacking Live, so you’ve got to tell me if you think it’s cool. If so, I'm going to flush this out and show you guys the magic. With that said, queue up the theme song and when we come back I’m going to talk about virtual real estate secrets. All right. So Funnel Hacking Live is coming. I'm pumped. I'm excited. We're planning out the event, the venue, the excitement, the speakers, the presentations, what I want you guys to get. I'm time-lining, storyboarding out the entire thing. If you knew how much goes into Funnel Hacking live, you'd be pretty excited. For those who have been in the past, you know it is a huge show. And for those who haven't been yet, this year is going to be the best ever. And why? Because, number one, I'm hoping by then, most of the COVID restrictions are done and we can just have a normal event. If not, we've got some backup and contingency plans. But for most of us, we haven't hung out for a long time, and I want to get together, hang out with a bunch of funnel hackers. So the parties on. We're doing it. It's happening in Florida. If you don't have your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. It's coming up this September. But regardless, the reason why I'm here today is tell you guys I've been planning this event and I've got some really cool stuff I'm going to share. We have some big updates. There's so much, so much stuff that they're constraining me from speaking. I'm not allowed to tell you guys, but regardless, I promise you, you will want to be there. It's going to be worth it. We do have virtual options this year, and so for those who can't physically come, you can watch. You can attend virtually as well. But anyway, I'm working on some ideas for content and I have something I want to talk about. It's been on my mind for literally, probably 10, 12 years, and it's this concept of virtual real estate. Okay? Obviously, most of you guys know what real estate is, right? You buy houses, you flip houses, you rehab houses, no money down, all this stuff. There's a million different ways to make money in real estate. But as cool as that is, real estate typically cost a lot of money if you go and do the thing, which is kind of annoying. And so, I want to talk about this concept called virtual real estate, which is web properties. What's interesting is anything you can do with a real property, like actual real estate, you can do the same things with virtual real estate, especially as you start becoming a master of all these principles and these concepts you've been learning from us, right? You learn about funnel building and traffic generation and copy and storytelling and all these things. When you learn and start mastering these things, you can literally do the exact same things that people are doing with real estate, but with virtual real estate. And honestly, it's a lot more profitable, a lot less startup costs and things like that. For example, let's say I want to go into actual real estate. So I'm going to go find a house and I'm going to find a house that's underpriced. I'm going to buy it. So say I find a house for 200 grand or whatever. I buy this house. I'm going to take them. I'm going to fix it up. I'm going to slap some paint on it. I'm going to throw in a new washer and dryer, a new refrigerator. I'm going to, whatever, lipstick and rouge to make this house nice, and then I'm to go flip it and make like $50,000 profit, right? There's a strategy in regular real estate, right? Now, you may be saying, "Well, how does that work in virtual real estate?" Okay. Well, there's a lot of people who create some insanely cool products who don't know what you know, and there's a lot of places to find these things. One of them is flippa.com, which is a cool place that is literally a marketplace, people selling websites and products and businesses that they created but they couldn't figure it out. And there's tons of other marketplaces. I don't have them here on top of my head, but Flippa is one of my favorites I go to. Almost daily, I look at Flippa. There's other ones out there. I think Shopify's got a marketplace, all their old Shopify store owners to sell there's. Anyway, there's a lot of out there. But basically you go to these stores and you find something where someone's got a really, really cool product, but they suck at what? All the stuff that you're good at, right? It's like a house, that you find this underpriced house. Yeah, the house looks like crap, but I know all you got to do is throw some lipstick on this thing, some paint, a new refrigerator, and this thing's something going to be worth $50,000 more. Right? You can do the same thing online. You can buy a website for five grand, 10 grand, 50 grand, 100 grand, whatever it is, a lot less typically than a house. You buy the thing and say, "Okay. I know these principles now. I understand this thing needs a funnel. I found a Shopify that's got a whole product line, whole bunch of SKUs, but no one's buying it because there's no funnel. So I know how to build a funnel." Right? Your funnel is your version of some paint you're slapping up on thing, or you're putting in a new fridge and a dishwasher to make the resell value go up. You put a funnel in. You guys know traffic generation after read traffic secrets. You plug in some traffic, start driving traffic. People go through the funnel. You make some money and follow up sequence, then plugs them into the Shopify store. And boom, all of a sudden, this thing that's making no money you buy for five grand is now making five grand a month, 10 grand a month, 100 grand a month, whatever it is. Now you can take that and you can flip it, or you can just keep it like cash flow. Right? You can do the same thing with a house. You can let the house cashflow, or you can flip it or a whole bunch of other things. Okay. It's powerful. I think this is primarily my fault. I obviously am very passionate and excited about me and you guys creating businesses out of our minds, like creating courses and products. I talk a lot about that or creating e-commerce stuff. You go and you find a product and you source it from China or whatever. We talk about those things a lot. But what people don't talk about is the fact that there's tons, millions of businesses that people built that are there that are just dead or they're mostly dead. Well, you can come in and buy them at a huge discount where the product's figured out, the content, that all the stuff's done. They just don't have traffic. They just don't have the funnel. They just don't have a good video. They don't have good storytelling. They don't have like the things that you have now. You don't have to go create anything from scratch. You just go buy these things for pennies on a dollar. Buy it, apply it with lipstick and rouge that you've been learning through all the stuff I've been teaching now for the last two decades. And all of a sudden, you can start making money out of the gate. And so, secretly, as I've been thinking about Funnel Hacking Live now for the last year, since we hung out last, I've been thinking about this. I was like, "I want to do this. I want to show some case studies of me doing it." And so when COVID hit, a lot of businesses went under. A lot of businesses got shut down. A lot of them, they lost their cashflow. A lot of them, like all sorts of things start happening. So I started looking for these opportunities and I started buying a handful of them. I won't be able to show you guys now because we're in the process of... At Funnel Hacking Live, I'll be able to show you, "Hey, I bought this company right here. I bought it for $50,000. I applied this funnel, this traffic strategy, these three things, put it up online. Now it's making 10 grand a month. I bought this one right here for this. I bought this one for free. I just had to cover the new inventory costs, paid for inventory costs. I applied this funnel, this funnel, this funnel, boom, launched it and look what happened." I'm going to have tons of case studies to show you guys. So that's kind of something to look forward to Funnel Hacking Live. But for right now, I want you guys thinking about it as well. Okay? It's on my mind. It's fun. It's exciting. Think about it. What businesses are out there that you could buy, you could partner with, you could take equity in? You went out of business. You could go get the assets and you can turn it back into a business. You turn it back on. If you look at Tai Lopez right now. You could say what you want. Some people love it. Some people hate him. I have so much respect for him. I think he's the man. I've hung out with him a bunch of times, and one thing that he's killing on right now, he went and he bought Radio Shack. They're going under. He bought Radio Shack and he's flipping it now. He bought Franklin Mint. He bought Pier One Imports. He's buying all these crazy companies. It is literally nuts. He's buying them for pennies on the dollar, flipping them, turning them into e-commerce, shutting down the physical locations, and he's killing it with it right now. It's like this is what I'm talking but at a small scale. Tai's doing this huge scale. Even I'm like, "That's ridiculous. You bought Pier One Imports, dude, like that's nuts." Or Radio Shack? Come on, Radio Shack? It's just insane, but that's the deals he's doing now which, yeah, we can get there someday. But right now, there's tons of little deals, tons of little things you can go. And just for today, for fun, go to flippa.com, F-L-I-P-P-A .com. Go there and just scroll through. Look for all the businesses that are for sale and just look at them and say... This is the mental exercise. Look at a business and say, "Okay, this is a house. I'm going to rehab this house. If I was to buy this house, what funnels would I apply to make this thing successful?" For example, one of the ones that I am recently acquired is a supplement company. And so supplement companies, they had a Shopify store. They had product. The products are really, really good, but they don't have funnels. So what funnels would I apply? I'm like, well, first off, they need a supplement funnel. So there's a supplement funnel. Second, I'm like, what can we create to get more people into the funnel? Well, we can make a challenge tied to the supplements. There's a challenge funnel. There's a supplement funnel, and so those things. Then it's like now... the people that had it before, they had a lot of organic traffic. They were selling on Amazon and things like that, but they had no traffic. It's like, well, who's our dream 100? What's the traffic strategy? And then it's like, well, they don't have anything to sell us other than just a picture of the product. What's the story we can tell? What's the videos we can make to capture the story of this product? And so I'm just going through dot-com secrets, expert secrets, traffic secrets, applying, applying, applying these little principles that you've been getting forever. We'll launch this company and it'll be live before Funnel Hacking Live. You'll have a chance to see it, but that's what we're doing. That's the game plan. So if you guys go look at that, and really what's nice about this is a lot of times you can buy these things for pennies on the dollar. You don't have to go and actually be the front person, the guru, whatever. You just got to create the different assets, create the pieces, plug them all in there, and that quickly you guys have, just again, it's just lipstick and rouge, is you're putting the paint up on the house. You're plugging in the whatever's on the front end. You're fixing the washer and dryer, where those things are. And all of a sudden, you guys' business is cranking. Again, imagine you buy a business for five grand, and within, by applying two funnels and one traffic strategy or one funnel and two traffic strategies, now it's netting five grand a month. Holy cow! How many times could you do that? Just because you may not be able to like, "Ah, I'm not good on video. I don't know how to create a product. I don't remember frameworks like you could." All the excuses that so many people have when they hear my stuff. It's like, "Cool, then don't." Go buy something and let's rehab it. Let's fix it. Let's flip it. Let's cashflow it. There's so many strategies that are so simple, and all of this is taking the same principles that you've learned, that you understand, that we've been talking about and applying it to these kinds of business. So there you go. Hope that helps. Hope it gives you some ideas. If you're not at Funnel Hacking Live, you're insane. We're going to be going deep in this stuff. It's going to be so much fun. Make sure you're there. I'll be sharing these case studies examples, showing you guys what we're doing, how we're doing it, why we're doing it, and hopefully get you fired up and excited. With that said, I am going to go to flippa.com and go find another business to buy because I need some more case studies for you guys. So appreciate you all. Hope this helps. Hope to get the wheels in your head spinning, and I'll see you guys at Funnel Hacking Live. Go get your tickets, funnelhackinglive.com. Thanks everybody, and we'll see you soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of the fastest ways to make money without having to build an actual business.

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What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Right now, I've been working on Funnel Hacking Live and planning and preparing a bunch of really cool things. I want to share with you guys a concept that I'm working on for potentially a presentation at Funnel Hacking Live, so you’ve got to tell me if you think it’s cool. If so, I'm going to flush this out and show you guys the magic. With that said, queue up the theme song and when we come back I’m going to talk about virtual real estate secrets.

All right. So Funnel Hacking Live is coming. I'm pumped. I'm excited. We're planning out the event, the venue, the excitement, the speakers, the presentations, what I want you guys to get. I'm time-lining, storyboarding out the entire thing. If you knew how much goes into Funnel Hacking live, you'd be pretty excited. For those who have been in the past, you know it is a huge show. And for those who haven't been yet, this year is going to be the best ever. And why? Because, number one, I'm hoping by then, most of the COVID restrictions are done and we can just have a normal event. If not, we've got some backup and contingency plans. But for most of us, we haven't hung out for a long time, and I want to get together, hang out with a bunch of funnel hackers. So the parties on. We're doing it. It's happening in Florida. If you don't have your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. It's coming up this September.

But regardless, the reason why I'm here today is tell you guys I've been planning this event and I've got some really cool stuff I'm going to share. We have some big updates. There's so much, so much stuff that they're constraining me from speaking. I'm not allowed to tell you guys, but regardless, I promise you, you will want to be there. It's going to be worth it. We do have virtual options this year, and so for those who can't physically come, you can watch. You can attend virtually as well.

But anyway, I'm working on some ideas for content and I have something I want to talk about. It's been on my mind for literally, probably 10, 12 years, and it's this concept of virtual real estate. Okay? Obviously, most of you guys know what real estate is, right? You buy houses, you flip houses, you rehab houses, no money down, all this stuff. There's a million different ways to make money in real estate. But as cool as that is, real estate typically cost a lot of money if you go and do the thing, which is kind of annoying. And so, I want to talk about this concept called virtual real estate, which is web properties.

What's interesting is anything you can do with a real property, like actual real estate, you can do the same things with virtual real estate, especially as you start becoming a master of all these principles and these concepts you've been learning from us, right? You learn about funnel building and traffic generation and copy and storytelling and all these things. When you learn and start mastering these things, you can literally do the exact same things that people are doing with real estate, but with virtual real estate. And honestly, it's a lot more profitable, a lot less startup costs and things like that.

For example, let's say I want to go into actual real estate. So I'm going to go find a house and I'm going to find a house that's underpriced. I'm going to buy it. So say I find a house for 200 grand or whatever. I buy this house. I'm going to take them. I'm going to fix it up. I'm going to slap some paint on it. I'm going to throw in a new washer and dryer, a new refrigerator. I'm going to, whatever, lipstick and rouge to make this house nice, and then I'm to go flip it and make like $50,000 profit, right? There's a strategy in regular real estate, right?

Now, you may be saying, "Well, how does that work in virtual real estate?" Okay. Well, there's a lot of people who create some insanely cool products who don't know what you know, and there's a lot of places to find these things. One of them is flippa.com, which is a cool place that is literally a marketplace, people selling websites and products and businesses that they created but they couldn't figure it out. And there's tons of other marketplaces. I don't have them here on top of my head, but Flippa is one of my favorites I go to. Almost daily, I look at Flippa.

There's other ones out there. I think Shopify's got a marketplace, all their old Shopify store owners to sell there's. Anyway, there's a lot of out there. But basically you go to these stores and you find something where someone's got a really, really cool product, but they suck at what? All the stuff that you're good at, right? It's like a house, that you find this underpriced house. Yeah, the house looks like crap, but I know all you got to do is throw some lipstick on this thing, some paint, a new refrigerator, and this thing's something going to be worth $50,000 more. Right?

You can do the same thing online. You can buy a website for five grand, 10 grand, 50 grand, 100 grand, whatever it is, a lot less typically than a house. You buy the thing and say, "Okay. I know these principles now. I understand this thing needs a funnel. I found a Shopify that's got a whole product line, whole bunch of SKUs, but no one's buying it because there's no funnel. So I know how to build a funnel." Right? Your funnel is your version of some paint you're slapping up on thing, or you're putting in a new fridge and a dishwasher to make the resell value go up.

You put a funnel in. You guys know traffic generation after read traffic secrets. You plug in some traffic, start driving traffic. People go through the funnel. You make some money and follow up sequence, then plugs them into the Shopify store. And boom, all of a sudden, this thing that's making no money you buy for five grand is now making five grand a month, 10 grand a month, 100 grand a month, whatever it is. Now you can take that and you can flip it, or you can just keep it like cash flow. Right? You can do the same thing with a house. You can let the house cashflow, or you can flip it or a whole bunch of other things. Okay.

It's powerful. I think this is primarily my fault. I obviously am very passionate and excited about me and you guys creating businesses out of our minds, like creating courses and products. I talk a lot about that or creating e-commerce stuff. You go and you find a product and you source it from China or whatever. We talk about those things a lot. But what people don't talk about is the fact that there's tons, millions of businesses that people built that are there that are just dead or they're mostly dead. Well, you can come in and buy them at a huge discount where the product's figured out, the content, that all the stuff's done. They just don't have traffic. They just don't have the funnel. They just don't have a good video. They don't have good storytelling.

They don't have like the things that you have now. You don't have to go create anything from scratch. You just go buy these things for pennies on a dollar. Buy it, apply it with lipstick and rouge that you've been learning through all the stuff I've been teaching now for the last two decades. And all of a sudden, you can start making money out of the gate. And so, secretly, as I've been thinking about Funnel Hacking Live now for the last year, since we hung out last, I've been thinking about this. I was like, "I want to do this. I want to show some case studies of me doing it." And so when COVID hit, a lot of businesses went under. A lot of businesses got shut down. A lot of them, they lost their cashflow. A lot of them, like all sorts of things start happening.

So I started looking for these opportunities and I started buying a handful of them. I won't be able to show you guys now because we're in the process of... At Funnel Hacking Live, I'll be able to show you, "Hey, I bought this company right here. I bought it for $50,000. I applied this funnel, this traffic strategy, these three things, put it up online. Now it's making 10 grand a month. I bought this one right here for this. I bought this one for free. I just had to cover the new inventory costs, paid for inventory costs. I applied this funnel, this funnel, this funnel, boom, launched it and look what happened."

I'm going to have tons of case studies to show you guys. So that's kind of something to look forward to Funnel Hacking Live. But for right now, I want you guys thinking about it as well. Okay? It's on my mind. It's fun. It's exciting. Think about it. What businesses are out there that you could buy, you could partner with, you could take equity in? You went out of business. You could go get the assets and you can turn it back into a business. You turn it back on.

If you look at Tai Lopez right now. You could say what you want. Some people love it. Some people hate him. I have so much respect for him. I think he's the man. I've hung out with him a bunch of times, and one thing that he's killing on right now, he went and he bought Radio Shack. They're going under. He bought Radio Shack and he's flipping it now. He bought Franklin Mint. He bought Pier One Imports. He's buying all these crazy companies. It is literally nuts. He's buying them for pennies on the dollar, flipping them, turning them into e-commerce, shutting down the physical locations, and he's killing it with it right now.

It's like this is what I'm talking but at a small scale. Tai's doing this huge scale. Even I'm like, "That's ridiculous. You bought Pier One Imports, dude, like that's nuts." Or Radio Shack? Come on, Radio Shack? It's just insane, but that's the deals he's doing now which, yeah, we can get there someday. But right now, there's tons of little deals, tons of little things you can go. And just for today, for fun, go to flippa.com, F-L-I-P-P-A .com. Go there and just scroll through. Look for all the businesses that are for sale and just look at them and say... This is the mental exercise. Look at a business and say, "Okay, this is a house. I'm going to rehab this house. If I was to buy this house, what funnels would I apply to make this thing successful?"

For example, one of the ones that I am recently acquired is a supplement company. And so supplement companies, they had a Shopify store. They had product. The products are really, really good, but they don't have funnels. So what funnels would I apply? I'm like, well, first off, they need a supplement funnel. So there's a supplement funnel. Second, I'm like, what can we create to get more people into the funnel? Well, we can make a challenge tied to the supplements. There's a challenge funnel. There's a supplement funnel, and so those things.

Then it's like now... the people that had it before, they had a lot of organic traffic. They were selling on Amazon and things like that, but they had no traffic. It's like, well, who's our dream 100? What's the traffic strategy? And then it's like, well, they don't have anything to sell us other than just a picture of the product. What's the story we can tell? What's the videos we can make to capture the story of this product? And so I'm just going through dot-com secrets, expert secrets, traffic secrets, applying, applying, applying these little principles that you've been getting forever. We'll launch this company and it'll be live before Funnel Hacking Live. You'll have a chance to see it, but that's what we're doing. That's the game plan.

So if you guys go look at that, and really what's nice about this is a lot of times you can buy these things for pennies on the dollar. You don't have to go and actually be the front person, the guru, whatever. You just got to create the different assets, create the pieces, plug them all in there, and that quickly you guys have, just again, it's just lipstick and rouge, is you're putting the paint up on the house. You're plugging in the whatever's on the front end. You're fixing the washer and dryer, where those things are. And all of a sudden, you guys' business is cranking.

Again, imagine you buy a business for five grand, and within, by applying two funnels and one traffic strategy or one funnel and two traffic strategies, now it's netting five grand a month. Holy cow! How many times could you do that? Just because you may not be able to like, "Ah, I'm not good on video. I don't know how to create a product. I don't remember frameworks like you could." All the excuses that so many people have when they hear my stuff. It's like, "Cool, then don't." Go buy something and let's rehab it. Let's fix it. Let's flip it. Let's cashflow it. There's so many strategies that are so simple, and all of this is taking the same principles that you've learned, that you understand, that we've been talking about and applying it to these kinds of business.

So there you go. Hope that helps. Hope it gives you some ideas. If you're not at Funnel Hacking Live, you're insane. We're going to be going deep in this stuff. It's going to be so much fun. Make sure you're there. I'll be sharing these case studies examples, showing you guys what we're doing, how we're doing it, why we're doing it, and hopefully get you fired up and excited.

With that said, I am going to go to flippa.com and go find another business to buy because I need some more case studies for you guys. So appreciate you all. Hope this helps. Hope to get the wheels in your head spinning, and I'll see you guys at Funnel Hacking Live. Go get your tickets, funnelhackinglive.com. Thanks everybody, and we'll see you soon. Bye.

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]]> 754 no Follow-Up Funnels https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/follow-up-funnels The often overlooked “second funnel” that is invisible to the naked eye… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today we're going to talk about what I call The Often Overlooked Second Funnel That's Invisible to the Naked Eye. We also call these Follow-Up Funnels, and I'm going to show you guys a really cool case study about how I basically made $16 and 49 cents for every $1 we made inside of our actual funnel. That is the power of Follow-Up Funnels. All right, everybody. So you've probably heard me talk about Follow-Up Funnels before, but I want to tell you just kind of the history behind this and why it's important and what you should do, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. So when I first got started on online marketing way back in the day, back then everyone used to use email auto responders, which... We still use variations of those today, but I remember when it came out and what would happen is that you had... Someone would subscribe to your email list and then you'd write a pre-written out email sequence. Right? So, what we used to do back in the day when I first got started was I was like, "Sign up for my free five day eCourse." That was the thing everyone did. Everyone had a free five day eCourse. So, someone would opt in and then they give you the email address. Then the Follow-Up Funnel was a five day email course. Day number one, you'd be like, "Here's this first thing, second thing, third thing, fourth thing, fifth thing." And the fifth day, you'd ask them to buy the thing you were trying to sell. That's how this thing first started for me. Then I remember, fast forward, who knows, a year or two later, I was hanging out with a guy named Matt Bacak and Matt told me at the time, I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was something like... He was like, "Yeah, I sat down and wrote out 600 emails. I built an email sequence. So if someone joins my list, they get an email everyday for 600 days, or something." I was like, "Holy cow." That's insane. Imagine, if I just did that once, I write this huge sequence and then put people through it, I'll never have to worry about writing emails again. I'll just add people to my list. That was my thought. So then I started trying to write a huge Follow-Up Funnel like that, a huge email sequence. And I got five days in and I was like, "I want to die. This is really, really hard." So I stopped. And then over the next two decades of my career I tried so many times to start one. I'd start writing one and then I get tired and then I write it and then... I remember one time I wrote it and I put all inside of GetResponse, excuse me, it's Aweber. First I wrote a, I don't know, 20 emails sequence and Aweber and I was going to keep adding to it. And so I built it out. I started adding my list and then Aweber canceled my account. And I was like, "What the dump." I was so mad. And so, then I went over and I rebuilt the entire sequence in Getresponse, but I was going to import my same list. I couldn't do the same emails. I had to rewrite the entire thing. So, I spent like two weeks rewriting that same email sequence then imported my list. They start getting emails. And within like two days, Getresponse canceled my account. I was like, "I'm going nuts." IT's like, "I can't keep doing this." And so I gave up on it again. And then ClickFunnels came out. One of the powerful things about Clickfunnels is when you build out your, your follow-up sequence, you can plug in any SMTP. So that's basically, you can plug in, send grid or you can plug in Amazon S3 emails, you can plug in... And there's a bunch of ones you can plug in. So that way, one of the reasons why we did that, because I had had so many headaches where we had launched an email sequence and our emails software shut us off and he'd go rebuild it. It was a nightmare. Whereas in ClickFunnels, let's say you, you build out your sequence, you upload a list of customers and start getting an email sequence. Let's say, SendGrid shuts you down. You can just plug into different SMTP and the emails keep going and you won't lose a beat. We built that because I was like, "That's how I need for myself because I don't want to write these again." So we did that, the initial email sequence that probably, I don't know, 10 or 12 days. And then that's all I ever got to. And about that time when we launched this in features, Clickfunnels. We need a name for it. Is it an auto-responder sequence? Is it marketing automation? What is the... We need a name. And we kept trying back and forth. And this was before Funnel Hacking Live 2017. We need a name for this, what's it called? And I remember Stephen Larson's here in the office and he was like super stressed out. "I'm trying to figure out this name, I'm trying to figure out this name." And I think he totally went and he prayed in the corner, something. Came back two minutes later, he's like, "What about follow-up funnels?" I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's what this is. Like someone comes in, they give you your email address. They go through normal funnel and then they're added to your follow-up funnel. You follow up with them, you take them through a sequence." And so we built followupfunnels.com and that became the thing and that became the branding. And so ever since 2017 now, so at 21… no not 21 years, four years. Four years, I've been calling them Follow-up Funnels. And so for me, that's what it is, you have your funnels and then your follow-up funnels. And so, it was interesting as I was writing the DotCom Secrets book, actually, prior to that, I was doing a presentation for Funnel Hacking Live 2017. And I actually shared this case study in the DotCom Secrets book. I want to share with you guys right now, is I want to see like how valuable is an actual follow-up funnel. As we started looking at our funnels, how much money they make when somebody comes through a book funnel, right. And looks through that revenue and then said, "Okay, over the next 30 days from our email follow-up funnel, how much money do we make?" We started looking at the math and the numbers and what was crazy in the snapshot I took, this was 2017. I think it was December of 2016. I took the snapshot. And what was crazy is that for every $1 that we made inside of an actual funnel from a book funnel or a webinar funnel, whatever it was, every $1 remains side of a funnel within 30 days made $16 and 49 cents through our followup funnel. What? What the dump, right? If you guys never heard me say that expression before, it's a weird one. I had a friend in college who used to always say, "What the dump" and it's stuck, and it's weird. I don't know, but you're getting it today. So, I was like, "What the dump? That's amazing. That's for every $1 I put in, I get $16 and 49 cents back out. It doesn't make any sense." And it started getting me really excited about the concept of follow up funnels. And so for years I sat down and kept like mapping out, “Okay I’m going to write, I'm going to build...” You know, not like a Matt Bacak, 600 email sequence. I want to build a sequence that goes through all my core offers, my products and something that's kind of... I start looking at that. And so we started sitting down and building one out and every time I tried to build out, I got so big. I was like, "It's going to be 50 emails, 60 emails." And I get stressed out. And I was like... Anyway, I'm sure you guys have gone through that. It's kind of overwhelming and stressful. But finally last year during COVID, I was like, "All right, we're building this thing out. And so we sat down and I mapped out, okay. If someone comes to my world, what did all the offers and the videos and YouTube videos or the podcasts websites, what are the best things that I have. What Would be the sequence I would send somebody through, like if my mom joined my list, what would I want her to have first, and second, and third? And I mapped out the sequence and the sequence ended up being about 60 emails. And then, I went through and I was like, "How am I going to write 60 emails? " That just sounds like pain. I want to die just thinking about it. Right. So I got out Voxer and I would Vox each email. So, I just kind of say it and I had my go and get it all transcribed and send me back the transcripts. Then from there, I'd take these, these transcripts, I could write emails a lot faster. And so, I started doing that and we started building out the sequence and it was like I said, 60 emails going over about a three month period of time. So, it wasn't every day, but sometimes it was three or four days in a row. And we'd take three days off and the back and forth. We built out this really, really cool sequence and it got it done. And then over the last 60 days or so, they slowly added people into the top of this sequence. In fact, as of Friday, we had added 1,734,577 people into this funnel. And we were getting an average overall engagement, 22%. 22% people were opening every single email, which is pretty exciting, but that was 1.7 million. And still have another, I think a million and a half that was being added in over the next, probably next 30 to 45 days being added to the top of the funnel trying to go slowly, so that all of a sudden we don't blow up our email. If you go off and start sending a million emails it just... anyway. So, we've been slowly adding these people in every single day. And as 1.7 million have gone into it, 20% open rate. And now, they're getting a sequence of 60 emails for the next three months and what's been crazy and cool and exciting is that first off, I haven't had to write an email for a long time, which is kind of nice. Second off, I'm watching this now because I have a lot of funnels, so my email sequence links people to different funnels, and then videos and podcasts episodes. So again, somethings are selling somethings are trained. Some things are free. Some things are paid, but just kind of moving them through the logical sequence of offers, of content, of things I want people to get into experience and it connects people to all these different things. And then, how it's fun is I'm watching this now. And now this is done, every single funnel across our business now is lifting. It's really crazy. Our best converting videos are more people where views are popping and they're spiking. And , it really seems like the entire company as a whole is lifting in revenue in engagement and all these things all by placing the thing in place. And it... I've been fighting this for, I mean, honestly, it's been two decades because I finally first want to do this, though I actually finally did it, excuse me. And now it's just insane watching what's happening. And we plugged in, so if someone opts into any of my funnels, anywhere at any given time, they go through that little meet. Usually someone opts in a funnel is a little mini sequence they go through for three or four days and then drops them to this big, major sequence that takes them through all of the offers in chronological order. And so we're adding again about 1000 to 2000 people a day. And actually more than that, excuse me. Pretty close to 3,500 or so, opt-ins a day are being added in his funnel as well. So it keeps growing and growing and growing. And I'm watching this now as the entire ecosystem of ClickFunnels is all rising together because of this, this funnel that's in place. And that's nice because it's 60 days long. Everybody who goes into my world is going to be getting these for the rest of time until I decide to change them or updating or tweaking. And hopefully I never will because I spent so much time and so much effort working on them. And it's just really, really cool. So a couple of things. Number one, if you've been getting a new email sequence from me, pay attention, okay. I think I'm going to eventually put this whole email sequence into a book and call it Followup Funnels. It'd be a really cool product, but right now you guys are getting it for free. So, if not, go opt into any of my forms and eventually you'll start getting it. The first email says something about marketing secrets, like "What's marketing secrets?" And so, that's the first email coming through, but it's powerful, man is blowing our business away. So, I want to share with you guys, cause I want you start thinking, now that you've been creating more things, right? You got some funnels, you got some videos, you got a podcast, you got content, you got things you're putting out there. Think about this. My thought when I was creating this follow-up funnels, "If my mom was to come to my world, what would be the first thing I'd want her to engage with? And then what's the second thing. And the third thing, and the fourth thing, I would look at this, this logical sequence of events. And then from that, that's how I wrote my email sequence. And then you get it all together. And when it's done, man there's this thing that's just literally, hand-holding all your dream customers around the logical sequencing of your content in your offers. And how powerful is that? What would that do for your business if you have that right now? I tell you for us here at ClickFunnels it is... We're already seeing this in this entire lifting across the board and it's powerful. And somebody will come to our world and like they see a webinar and that's all they know. And they see a book and they see something random, but they don't have the context of everything we're doing. So by doing this, puts everybody into a sequence where they're getting step-by-step piece by piece, the stuff we want them to understand in the order, we need them to understand them. And that's really the magic and the power. So anyway, I want to share with you guys, because I'm pumped about it. It's working. If you don't have your own follow-up funnels, now is the time to start building out, creating them, plugging into click funnels, I guess, to do it in the click funnels. So you don't risk getting shut down, which happens in pretty much every other autoresponder sequence I've ever had. In fact, I think in the slides I talked about that, because this is the very first time I told people about our follow-up funnels inside of ClickFunnels, we announced it. So, in the past Aweber shut me down six times, Getresponse four times, Icontact shut me down nine times, two and Fusionsoft two times, ActiveCampaign, two times, MailChimp should be about three times. And that's it. And so I would be careful of using any other outside responders for that reason. We have some crazy updates come in Click funnels in the very near future with our followup funnels and stuff. I think you were going to go crazy for, I can't announce that yet, but anyway, good stuff's coming. So I just want to share with you guys because it matters. It's important. It's something that I fought forever and I wish I had done this 10 years ago and just read it every year, re-tweaked it every single year, whatever that might be, but now it's done. And now it's just insane. So again, from the snapshot December, for every $1 we made inside of our, our core funnel or drive people who made $16 and 49 cents follow-up funnel which is crazy. And what I'm finding now, now I have sequences even better. Those numbers are just going up. And so I want to share with you guys, hope this helps kind of build a follow-up funnel. Inspires you, motivates you and gets you excited to build the often overlooked second funnel, that’s invisible to the Naked Eye. It's called the Follow-up Funnel. With that said, I appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:00:00 -0000 Follow-Up Funnels full 400 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The often overlooked “second funnel” that is invisible to the naked eye… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast.... The often overlooked “second funnel” that is invisible to the naked eye… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today we're going to talk about what I call The Often Overlooked Second Funnel That's Invisible to the Naked Eye. We also call these Follow-Up Funnels, and I'm going to show you guys a really cool case study about how I basically made $16 and 49 cents for every $1 we made inside of our actual funnel. That is the power of Follow-Up Funnels. All right, everybody. So you've probably heard me talk about Follow-Up Funnels before, but I want to tell you just kind of the history behind this and why it's important and what you should do, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. So when I first got started on online marketing way back in the day, back then everyone used to use email auto responders, which... We still use variations of those today, but I remember when it came out and what would happen is that you had... Someone would subscribe to your email list and then you'd write a pre-written out email sequence. Right? So, what we used to do back in the day when I first got started was I was like, "Sign up for my free five day eCourse." That was the thing everyone did. Everyone had a free five day eCourse. So, someone would opt in and then they give you the email address. Then the Follow-Up Funnel was a five day email course. Day number one, you'd be like, "Here's this first thing, second thing, third thing, fourth thing, fifth thing." And the fifth day, you'd ask them to buy the thing you were trying to sell. That's how this thing first started for me. Then I remember, fast forward, who knows, a year or two later, I was hanging out with a guy named Matt Bacak and Matt told me at the time, I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was something like... He was like, "Yeah, I sat down and wrote out 600 emails. I built an email sequence. So if someone joins my list, they get an email everyday for 600 days, or something." I was like, "Holy cow." That's insane. Imagine, if I just did that once, I write this huge sequence and then put people through it, I'll never have to worry about writing emails again. I'll just add people to my list. That was my thought. So then I started trying to write a huge Follow-Up Funnel like that, a huge email sequence. And I got five days in and I was like, "I want to die. This is really, really hard." So I stopped. And then over the next two decades of my career I tried so many times to start one. I'd start writing one and then I get tired and then I write it and then... I remember one time I wrote it and I put all inside of GetResponse, excuse me, it's Aweber. First I wrote a, I don't know, 20 emails sequence and Aweber and I was going to keep adding to it. And so I built it out. I started adding my list and then Aweber canceled my account. And I was like, "What the dump." I was so mad. And so, then I went over and I rebuilt the entire sequence in Getresponse, but I was going to import my same list. I couldn't do the same emails. I had to rewrite the entire thing. So, I spent like two weeks rewriting that same email sequence then imported my list. They start getting emails. And within like two days, Getresponse canceled my account. I was like, "I'm going nuts." IT's like, "I can't keep doing this." And so I gave up on it again. And then ClickFunnels came out. One of the powerful things about Clickfunnels is when you build out your, your follow-up sequence, you can plug in any SMTP. So that's basically, you can plug in, send grid or you can plug in Amazon S3 emails, you can plug in... And there's a bunch of ones you can plug in. So that way, one of the reasons why we did that, because I had had so many headaches where we had launched an email sequence and our emails software shut us off and he'd go rebuild it. It was a nightmare. Whereas in ClickFunnels, let's say you, you build out your sequence, you upload a list of customers and start getting an email sequence. Let's say, SendGrid shuts you down. You can just plug into different SMTP and the emails keep going and you won't lose a beat. We built that because I was like, "That's how I need for myself because I don't want to write these again." So we did that, the initial email sequence that probably, I don't know, 10 or 12 days. And then that's all I ever got to. And about that time when we launched this in features, Clickfunnels. We need a name for it. Is it an auto-responder sequence? Is it marketing automation? What is the... We need a name. And we kept trying back and forth. And this was before Funnel Hacking Live 2017. We need a name for this, what's it called? And I remember Stephen Larson's here in the office and he was like super stressed out. "I'm trying to figure out this name, I'm trying to figure out this name." And I think he totally went and he prayed in the corner, something. Came back two minutes later, he's like, "What about follow-up funnels?" I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's what this is. Like someone comes in, they give you your email address. They go through normal funnel and then they're added to your follow-up funnel. You follow up with them, you take them through a sequence." And so we built followupfunnels.com and that became the thing and that became the branding. And so ever since 2017 now, so at 21… no not 21 years, four years. Four years, I've been calling them Follow-up Funnels. And so for me, that's what it is, you have your funnels and then your follow-up funnels. And so, it was interesting as I was writing the DotCom Secrets book, actually, prior to that, I was doing a presentation for Funnel Hacking Live 2017. And I actually shared this case study in the DotCom Secrets book. I want to share with you guys right now, is I want to see like how valuable is an actual follow-up funnel. As we started looking at our funnels, how much money they make when somebody comes through a book funnel, right. And looks through that revenue and then said, "Okay, over the next 30 days from our email follow-up funnel, how much money do we make?" We started looking at the math and the numbers and what was crazy in the snapshot I took, this was 2017. I think it was December of 2016. I took the snapshot. And what was crazy is that for every $1 that we made inside of an actual funnel from a book funnel or a webinar funnel, whatever it was, every $1 remains side of a funnel within 30 days made $16 and 49 cents through our followup funnel. What? What the dump, right? If you guys never heard me say that expression before, it's a weird one. I had a friend in college who used to always say, "What the dump" and it's stuck, and it's weird. I don't know, but you're getting it today. So, I was like, "What the dump? That's amazing. That's for every $1 I put in, I get $16 and 49 cents back out. It doesn't make any sense." And it started getting me really excited about the concept of follow up funnels. And so for years I sat down and kept like mapping out, “Okay I’m going to write, I'm going to build...” You know, not like a Matt Bacak, 600 email sequence. I want to build a sequence that goes through all my core offers, my products and something that's kind of... I start looking at that. And so we started sitting down and building one out and every time I tried to build out, I got so big. I was like, "It's going to be 50 emails, 60 emails." And I get stressed out. And I was like... Anyway, I'm sure you guys have gone through that. It's kind of overwhelming and stressful. But finally last year during COVID, I was like, "All right, we're building this thing out. And so we sat down and I mapped out, okay. If someone comes to my world, what did all the offers and the videos and YouTube videos or the podcasts websites, what are the best things that I have. What Would be the sequence I would send somebody through, like if my mom joined my list, what would I want her to have first, and second, and third? And I mapped out the sequence and the sequence ended up being about 60 emails. And then, I went through and I was like, "How am I going to write 60 emails? " That just sounds like pain. I want to die just thinking about it. Right. So I got out Voxer and I would Vox each email. So, I just kind of say it and I had my go and get it all transcribed and send me back the transcripts. Then from there, I'd take these, these transcripts, I could write emails a lot faster. And so, I started doing that and we started building out the sequence and it was like I said, 60 emails going over about a three month period of time. So, it wasn't every day, but sometimes it was three or four days in a row. And we'd take three days off and the back and forth. We built out this really, really cool sequence and it got it done. And then over the last 60 days or so, they slowly added people into the top of this sequence. In fact, as of Friday, we had added 1,734,577 people into this funnel. And we were getting an average overall engagement, 22%. 22% people were opening every single email, which is pretty exciting, but that was 1.7 million. And still have another, I think a million and a half that was being added in over the next, probably next 30 to 45 days being added to the top of the funnel trying to go slowly, so that all of a sudden we don't blow up our email. If you go off and start sending a million emails it just... anyway. So, we've been slowly adding these people in every single day. And as 1.7 million have gone into it, 20% open rate. And now, they're getting a sequence of 60 emails for the next three months and what's been crazy and cool and exciting is that first off, I haven't had to write an email for a long time, which is kind of nice. Second off, I'm watching this now because I have a lot of funnels, so my email sequence links people to different funnels, and then videos and podcasts episodes. So again, somethings are selling somethings are trained. Some things are free. Some things are paid, but just kind of moving them through the logical sequence of offers, of content, of things I want people to get into experience and it connects people to all these different things. And then, how it's fun is I'm watching this now. And now this is done, every single funnel across our business now is lifting. It's really crazy. Our best converting videos are more people where views are popping and they're spiking. And , it really seems like the entire company as a whole is lifting in revenue in engagement and all these things all by placing the thing in place. And it... I've been fighting this for, I mean, honestly, it's been two decades because I finally first want to do this, though I actually finally did it, excuse me. And now it's just insane watching what's happening. And we plugged in, so if someone opts into any of my funnels, anywhere at any given time, they go through that little meet. Usually someone opts in a funnel is a little mini sequence they go through for three or four days and then drops them to this big, major sequence that takes them through all of the offers in chronological order. And so we're adding again about 1000 to 2000 people a day. And actually more than that, excuse me. Pretty close to 3,500 or so, opt-ins a day are being added in his funnel as well. So it keeps growing and growing and growing. And I'm watching this now as the entire ecosystem of ClickFunnels is all rising together because of this, this funnel that's in place. And that's nice because it's 60 days long. Everybody who goes into my world is going to be getting these for the rest of time until I decide to change them or updating or tweaking. And hopefully I never will because I spent so much time and so much effort working on them. And it's just really, really cool. So a couple of things. Number one, if you've been getting a new email sequence from me, pay attention, okay. I think I'm going to eventually put this whole email sequence into a book and call it Followup Funnels. It'd be a really cool product, but right now you guys are getting it for free. So, if not, go opt into any of my forms and eventually you'll start getting it. The first email says something about marketing secrets, like "What's marketing secrets?" And so, that's the first email coming through, but it's powerful, man is blowing our business away. So, I want to share with you guys, cause I want you start thinking, now that you've been creating more things, right? You got some funnels, you got some videos, you got a podcast, you got content, you got things you're putting out there. Think about this. My thought when I was creating this follow-up funnels, "If my mom was to come to my world, what would be the first thing I'd want her to engage with? And then what's the second thing. And the third thing, and the fourth thing, I would look at this, this logical sequence of events. And then from that, that's how I wrote my email sequence. And then you get it all together. And when it's done, man there's this thing that's just literally, hand-holding all your dream customers around the logical sequencing of your content in your offers. And how powerful is that? What would that do for your business if you have that right now? I tell you for us here at ClickFunnels it is... We're already seeing this in this entire lifting across the board and it's powerful. And somebody will come to our world and like they see a webinar and that's all they know. And they see a book and they see something random, but they don't have the context of everything we're doing. So by doing this, puts everybody into a sequence where they're getting step-by-step piece by piece, the stuff we want them to understand in the order, we need them to understand them. And that's really the magic and the power. So anyway, I want to share with you guys, because I'm pumped about it. It's working. If you don't have your own follow-up funnels, now is the time to start building out, creating them, plugging into click funnels, I guess, to do it in the click funnels. So you don't risk getting shut down, which happens in pretty much every other autoresponder sequence I've ever had. In fact, I think in the slides I talked about that, because this is the very first time I told people about our follow-up funnels inside of ClickFunnels, we announced it. So, in the past Aweber shut me down six times, Getresponse four times, Icontact shut me down nine times, two and Fusionsoft two times, ActiveCampaign, two times, MailChimp should be about three times. And that's it. And so I would be careful of using any other outside responders for that reason. We have some crazy updates come in Click funnels in the very near future with our followup funnels and stuff. I think you were going to go crazy for, I can't announce that yet, but anyway, good stuff's coming. So I just want to share with you guys because it matters. It's important. It's something that I fought forever and I wish I had done this 10 years ago and just read it every year, re-tweaked it every single year, whatever that might be, but now it's done. And now it's just insane. So again, from the snapshot December, for every $1 we made inside of our, our core funnel or drive people who made $16 and 49 cents follow-up funnel which is crazy. And what I'm finding now, now I have sequences even better. Those numbers are just going up. And so I want to share with you guys, hope this helps kind of build a follow-up funnel. Inspires you, motivates you and gets you excited to build the often overlooked second funnel, that’s invisible to the Naked Eye. It's called the Follow-up Funnel. With that said, I appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. 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What's up everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today we're going to talk about what I call The Often Overlooked Second Funnel That's Invisible to the Naked Eye. We also call these Follow-Up Funnels, and I'm going to show you guys a really cool case study about how I basically made $16 and 49 cents for every $1 we made inside of our actual funnel. That is the power of Follow-Up Funnels.

All right, everybody. So you've probably heard me talk about Follow-Up Funnels before, but I want to tell you just kind of the history behind this and why it's important and what you should do, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. So when I first got started on online marketing way back in the day, back then everyone used to use email auto responders, which... We still use variations of those today, but I remember when it came out and what would happen is that you had... Someone would subscribe to your email list and then you'd write a pre-written out email sequence. Right? So, what we used to do back in the day when I first got started was I was like, "Sign up for my free five day eCourse." That was the thing everyone did. Everyone had a free five day eCourse.

So, someone would opt in and then they give you the email address. Then the Follow-Up Funnel was a five day email course. Day number one, you'd be like, "Here's this first thing, second thing, third thing, fourth thing, fifth thing." And the fifth day, you'd ask them to buy the thing you were trying to sell. That's how this thing first started for me. Then I remember, fast forward, who knows, a year or two later, I was hanging out with a guy named Matt Bacak and Matt told me at the time, I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was something like... He was like, "Yeah, I sat down and wrote out 600 emails. I built an email sequence. So if someone joins my list, they get an email everyday for 600 days, or something." I was like, "Holy cow." That's insane. Imagine, if I just did that once, I write this huge sequence and then put people through it, I'll never have to worry about writing emails again. I'll just add people to my list. That was my thought.

So then I started trying to write a huge Follow-Up Funnel like that, a huge email sequence. And I got five days in and I was like, "I want to die. This is really, really hard." So I stopped. And then over the next two decades of my career I tried so many times to start one. I'd start writing one and then I get tired and then I write it and then... I remember one time I wrote it and I put all inside of GetResponse, excuse me, it's Aweber. First I wrote a, I don't know, 20 emails sequence and Aweber and I was going to keep adding to it. And so I built it out. I started adding my list and then Aweber canceled my account. And I was like, "What the dump." I was so mad. And so, then I went over and I rebuilt the entire sequence in Getresponse, but I was going to import my same list. I couldn't do the same emails. I had to rewrite the entire thing.

So, I spent like two weeks rewriting that same email sequence then imported my list. They start getting emails. And within like two days, Getresponse canceled my account. I was like, "I'm going nuts." IT's like, "I can't keep doing this." And so I gave up on it again. And then ClickFunnels came out. One of the powerful things about Clickfunnels is when you build out your, your follow-up sequence, you can plug in any SMTP. So that's basically, you can plug in, send grid or you can plug in Amazon S3 emails, you can plug in... And there's a bunch of ones you can plug in. So that way, one of the reasons why we did that, because I had had so many headaches where we had launched an email sequence and our emails software shut us off and he'd go rebuild it. It was a nightmare. Whereas in ClickFunnels, let's say you, you build out your sequence, you upload a list of customers and start getting an email sequence. Let's say, SendGrid shuts you down. You can just plug into different SMTP and the emails keep going and you won't lose a beat.

We built that because I was like, "That's how I need for myself because I don't want to write these again." So we did that, the initial email sequence that probably, I don't know, 10 or 12 days. And then that's all I ever got to. And about that time when we launched this in features, Clickfunnels. We need a name for it. Is it an auto-responder sequence? Is it marketing automation? What is the... We need a name. And we kept trying back and forth. And this was before Funnel Hacking Live 2017. We need a name for this, what's it called? And I remember Stephen Larson's here in the office and he was like super stressed out. "I'm trying to figure out this name, I'm trying to figure out this name." And I think he totally went and he prayed in the corner, something.

Came back two minutes later, he's like, "What about follow-up funnels?" I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's what this is. Like someone comes in, they give you your email address. They go through normal funnel and then they're added to your follow-up funnel. You follow up with them, you take them through a sequence." And so we built followupfunnels.com and that became the thing and that became the branding. And so ever since 2017 now, so at 21… no not 21 years, four years. Four years, I've been calling them Follow-up Funnels. And so for me, that's what it is, you have your funnels and then your follow-up funnels. And so, it was interesting as I was writing the DotCom Secrets book, actually, prior to that, I was doing a presentation for Funnel Hacking Live 2017. And I actually shared this case study in the DotCom Secrets book.

I want to share with you guys right now, is I want to see like how valuable is an actual follow-up funnel. As we started looking at our funnels, how much money they make when somebody comes through a book funnel, right. And looks through that revenue and then said, "Okay, over the next 30 days from our email follow-up funnel, how much money do we make?" We started looking at the math and the numbers and what was crazy in the snapshot I took, this was 2017. I think it was December of 2016. I took the snapshot. And what was crazy is that for every $1 that we made inside of an actual funnel from a book funnel or a webinar funnel, whatever it was, every $1 remains side of a funnel within 30 days made $16 and 49 cents through our followup funnel. What? What the dump, right?

If you guys never heard me say that expression before, it's a weird one. I had a friend in college who used to always say, "What the dump" and it's stuck, and it's weird. I don't know, but you're getting it today. So, I was like, "What the dump? That's amazing. That's for every $1 I put in, I get $16 and 49 cents back out. It doesn't make any sense." And it started getting me really excited about the concept of follow up funnels. And so for years I sat down and kept like mapping out, “Okay I’m going to write, I'm going to build...” You know, not like a Matt Bacak, 600 email sequence. I want to build a sequence that goes through all my core offers, my products and something that's kind of... I start looking at that. And so we started sitting down and building one out and every time I tried to build out, I got so big.

I was like, "It's going to be 50 emails, 60 emails." And I get stressed out. And I was like... Anyway, I'm sure you guys have gone through that. It's kind of overwhelming and stressful. But finally last year during COVID, I was like, "All right, we're building this thing out. And so we sat down and I mapped out, okay. If someone comes to my world, what did all the offers and the videos and YouTube videos or the podcasts websites, what are the best things that I have. What Would be the sequence I would send somebody through, like if my mom joined my list, what would I want her to have first, and second, and third? And I mapped out the sequence and the sequence ended up being about 60 emails. And then, I went through and I was like, "How am I going to write 60 emails? "

That just sounds like pain. I want to die just thinking about it. Right. So I got out Voxer and I would Vox each email. So, I just kind of say it and I had my go and get it all transcribed and send me back the transcripts. Then from there, I'd take these, these transcripts, I could write emails a lot faster. And so, I started doing that and we started building out the sequence and it was like I said, 60 emails going over about a three month period of time. So, it wasn't every day, but sometimes it was three or four days in a row. And we'd take three days off and the back and forth. We built out this really, really cool sequence and it got it done. And then over the last 60 days or so, they slowly added people into the top of this sequence. In fact, as of Friday, we had added 1,734,577 people into this funnel.

And we were getting an average overall engagement, 22%. 22% people were opening every single email, which is pretty exciting, but that was 1.7 million. And still have another, I think a million and a half that was being added in over the next, probably next 30 to 45 days being added to the top of the funnel trying to go slowly, so that all of a sudden we don't blow up our email. If you go off and start sending a million emails it just... anyway. So, we've been slowly adding these people in every single day. And as 1.7 million have gone into it, 20% open rate. And now, they're getting a sequence of 60 emails for the next three months and what's been crazy and cool and exciting is that first off, I haven't had to write an email for a long time, which is kind of nice.

Second off, I'm watching this now because I have a lot of funnels, so my email sequence links people to different funnels, and then videos and podcasts episodes. So again, somethings are selling somethings are trained. Some things are free. Some things are paid, but just kind of moving them through the logical sequence of offers, of content, of things I want people to get into experience and it connects people to all these different things. And then, how it's fun is I'm watching this now. And now this is done, every single funnel across our business now is lifting. It's really crazy. Our best converting videos are more people where views are popping and they're spiking. And , it really seems like the entire company as a whole is lifting in revenue in engagement and all these things all by placing the thing in place. And it... I've been fighting this for, I mean, honestly, it's been two decades because I finally first want to do this, though I actually finally did it, excuse me. And now it's just insane watching what's happening.

And we plugged in, so if someone opts into any of my funnels, anywhere at any given time, they go through that little meet. Usually someone opts in a funnel is a little mini sequence they go through for three or four days and then drops them to this big, major sequence that takes them through all of the offers in chronological order. And so we're adding again about 1000 to 2000 people a day. And actually more than that, excuse me. Pretty close to 3,500 or so, opt-ins a day are being added in his funnel as well. So it keeps growing and growing and growing. And I'm watching this now as the entire ecosystem of ClickFunnels is all rising together because of this, this funnel that's in place.

And that's nice because it's 60 days long. Everybody who goes into my world is going to be getting these for the rest of time until I decide to change them or updating or tweaking. And hopefully I never will because I spent so much time and so much effort working on them. And it's just really, really cool. So a couple of things. Number one, if you've been getting a new email sequence from me, pay attention, okay. I think I'm going to eventually put this whole email sequence into a book and call it Followup Funnels. It'd be a really cool product, but right now you guys are getting it for free. So, if not, go opt into any of my forms and eventually you'll start getting it. The first email says something about marketing secrets, like "What's marketing secrets?" And so, that's the first email coming through, but it's powerful, man is blowing our business away.

So, I want to share with you guys, cause I want you start thinking, now that you've been creating more things, right? You got some funnels, you got some videos, you got a podcast, you got content, you got things you're putting out there. Think about this. My thought when I was creating this follow-up funnels, "If my mom was to come to my world, what would be the first thing I'd want her to engage with? And then what's the second thing. And the third thing, and the fourth thing, I would look at this, this logical sequence of events. And then from that, that's how I wrote my email sequence. And then you get it all together. And when it's done, man there's this thing that's just literally, hand-holding all your dream customers around the logical sequencing of your content in your offers.

And how powerful is that? What would that do for your business if you have that right now? I tell you for us here at ClickFunnels it is... We're already seeing this in this entire lifting across the board and it's powerful. And somebody will come to our world and like they see a webinar and that's all they know. And they see a book and they see something random, but they don't have the context of everything we're doing. So by doing this, puts everybody into a sequence where they're getting step-by-step piece by piece, the stuff we want them to understand in the order, we need them to understand them. And that's really the magic and the power. So anyway, I want to share with you guys, because I'm pumped about it. It's working. If you don't have your own follow-up funnels, now is the time to start building out, creating them, plugging into click funnels, I guess, to do it in the click funnels.

So you don't risk getting shut down, which happens in pretty much every other autoresponder sequence I've ever had. In fact, I think in the slides I talked about that, because this is the very first time I told people about our follow-up funnels inside of ClickFunnels, we announced it. So, in the past Aweber shut me down six times, Getresponse four times, Icontact shut me down nine times, two and Fusionsoft two times, ActiveCampaign, two times, MailChimp should be about three times. And that's it. And so I would be careful of using any other outside responders for that reason. We have some crazy updates come in Click funnels in the very near future with our followup funnels and stuff. I think you were going to go crazy for, I can't announce that yet, but anyway, good stuff's coming.

So I just want to share with you guys because it matters. It's important. It's something that I fought forever and I wish I had done this 10 years ago and just read it every year, re-tweaked it every single year, whatever that might be, but now it's done. And now it's just insane. So again, from the snapshot December, for every $1 we made inside of our, our core funnel or drive people who made $16 and 49 cents follow-up funnel which is crazy. And what I'm finding now, now I have sequences even better. Those numbers are just going up. And so I want to share with you guys, hope this helps kind of build a follow-up funnel. Inspires you, motivates you and gets you excited to build the often overlooked second funnel, that’s invisible to the Naked Eye. It's called the Follow-up Funnel. With that said, I appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 847 no 3 Ways to Train the Subconscious Mind https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/3-ways-to-train-the-subconscious-mind Cool things I learned from Stacey and Paul Martino at the Breakthrough in Paradise retreat. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to teach you guys three ways to train your subconscious mind. All right, everybody. I hope you guys are doing amazing? So my wife and I had a really cool experience. Some of you guys who've been to Funnel Hacking Live, or you've been to Two Comma Club Live or been around our community for the last couple of years, you've probably heard me talk more than once about a really unique, really cool couple, and their names are Stacey and Paul Martino. So they came into our world, they had a message, "They were trying to change the world." They had figured out a process to make relationships better, specifically, like the relationships with your significant other. And they are amazing people. In the last, "How many years they've been doing this work," I believe they saved over 10,000 marriages. They have a less than 1% divorce rate of people who've gone through the program and it's amazing. So, as someone who loves my wife and never wants to get divorced and is always trying to figure out ways to make everything better, the personal development nerd inside of me. After I met them, I was like, "I'm going to go through your stuff." I've been their marketing coach on the outside, so I've had the fun opportunity to be like, "Hey, you guys need to launch a podcast, "Hey, you need to write a book." "Hey, you need to do these things." So, some of them are selfish things for me because I wanted them to create a podcast, so I could listen to their podcast. I want them to write a book, so I can read their book. They haven't written a book yet, but they're working on it. Anyway, I'm telling you this is because if you want to go deep with them, they've got an amazing podcast. If you search Stacey and Paul Martino, they have an amazing course, they have a quick start, they have a challenge, they've got a bunch of things, but I went all in, struggled through their content. Collete and I went out to their live event, and then we signed up for the high-end coaching and this year we had a chance last week to go to their Breakthrough in Paradise retreat in Jamaica, which was really, really cool. And it's fun because obviously, what Stacy and Paul do is different from what I do, but there are similarities. They've got their frameworks and they're teaching. They're awesome with what they do. So they've got their frameworks and they teach them. They teach them in their podcasts, teach them on their Quick Start, teach them in their webinars, teach them in their challenges, teach them at their live events, they teach them at their mat… They have these frameworks and they teach them over and over and over again. And what's cool is I had this breakthrough as I was sitting there because I've gone through most of the stuff that they've taught multiple times now and obviously, I'm still trying to figure things out for myself, for my family, for my relationships with other people, my relationship with my wife, with my employees, with just all the things. I'm still trying to learn and figure things out, but what's cool is that I'm at Breakthrough in Paradise. It's like their top-end thing. This is the back of their value-add. And they started the event off, talking about, "There are three ways to train the subconscious mind." And it was interesting because one thing is that they talked about and said, "You know, a lot of stuff we're going to be teaching at this event, it's not new stuff. You've probably heard us talk about this more than once. And the reality is our job is not teaching new stuff all the time. Our job is to give you a level of mastery of the stuff we've been teaching you so far." And she said, "You know, right now, a lot of you guys have cognitively," Hopefully I said that word right. "Have heard us say the things like, 'Oh yeah, I know that. I know that. I know that.' And they started saying, "Our job is not to get this into your interior, your front of your mind, it's to get it into the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind is where this stuff becomes mastery, we're just doing it because you understand it at a deeper level. Not where you're trying to think, 'How does this work? What's the first step?'" And it was just cool, and so, as they started teaching this, they said, "I want to make sure because, if we don't pre-frame this, a lot of you guys are going to discount the stuff like, "Oh, I've heard that before. Oh, I already know that" Oh, where, they said, "The job is not for you to also get a new thing. It's for you to internalize this and to master this so that it becomes something that you have forever." And so that was the pre-frame. And then they start talking about, "Three ways to train your subconscious mind." It was really cool. It's the number one. The first way to train your subconscious mind is through repetition, hearing things over and over and over and over and over again. It's the repetition that's the key, which is why it's so important. The second thing is immersion. It was a five day event in Jamaica. It was a three-day event that we went to earlier. These immersion events where were there for a long time, because if you're just dabbling in, "Oh, I got a little piece here and a little piece here." And you're not getting immersion, you're just dabbling and it's hard to get that into your subconscious mind where it becomes mastery. And then third way is hypnosis. And she said, “At this event, we're not doing hypnosis, but we're doing repetition and immersion, repetition and immersion because we have to let this sink into your subconscious mind." It can't be like, "You and your spouse get in a fight and you're trying to think now, 'What was that thing again? Let's see, okay, they taught us this thing.'" It's like, no, you have to get it into your subconscious min so it becomes habit. So it becomes something that you can use. And as she was saying that, I started thinking about myself, I started thinking about wrestling. And I remember having this aha towards the end of my high school career. I wrestled in high school and in college. But it was toward the end of my high school year. And I was someone who became obsessed or stressed with wrestling. So I was wrestling during practice, before practice, after practice, I was doing summer camps. I was like, as much as I could, I was wrestling. And I remember, because you'd go and try and learn the new move, the new move, the new move, or, they teach you the same move and help you do it over and over again. And I remember I found this to be true. I would drill a move a hundred times in practice, but it wasn't my move until I hit it once in an actual match. I remember having that, epiphany, "I can train this thing a hundred times until I've actually hit it in the match where it's... Those who have ever competed at any high level when you're competing, it's not your conscious mind out there where you think, "Okay, what's the first thing, I'm going to shoot here. I'm going to grab his arm here. When I step on the mat and I shake their hand, it's weird that everything disappears and you just go, it's your subconscious mind taking over. So it's like all these things you've been drilling over and over and over again. So it's not me consciously, "Oh, I learned, a single leg, there's a single, I should go grab it." At that point, it's gone. Like I missed it. The mastery comes back, feeling it, "When this person moves this way, this is where my body needs to go and how I need to shift, and the angle I need to take." and so I'm drilling it over and over and over like a hundred times drilling it, you start feeling it. But then it wasn't until I hit it in a match. As soon as I hit a once in a match and not I tried in the match and I missed it, it was if I hit it once in a match and I executed on it, my body would remember that. I remember telling some of my teammates that, during my senior year, this move I would drilling it until I hit it in a match. It's not mine. And they, they didn't understand that. I said, "Yeah, like I can drill this a thousand times. But until I've, until I've used it in a match, like, I don't know how to explain that, but not mine." I know I understand this, it's because it was deeper than just the consciously me knowing how to do the move, it was subconscious where my could just hit it. And so what I would do is I would go out in my matches where I knew I was wrestling someone who was easy, someone I knew what I was going to beat. My job was not to do the moves that already knew. The job is I have to hit the moves I've been learning. The ones that aren't in my subconscious mind yet. Once I'm trying to train to get back there so I can feel it and it just comes up. Those are the ones I need to hit during my easy matches. So, that way they become my moves. Because, it's not my move until I've executed it at least once in a live match. And so I would do that say, "Okay, this week I've been drilling this, this, and this. So during this match, I'm not trying to do the moves I know, I'm going to be doing these new moves because I need to execute it live in a match. Because then it's in my subconscious mind and I've mastered it. And now I can bring that out, whatever I need to. But until then, it's not mine. It's just something that I've taught my head that I know how this thing works. You think about that as you get better and better at any kind of sport or any kind of thing, like in wrestling, my moves, the ones I'm amazing at, I can still to the is day hit them perfectly like I've done some so many times. I don't have to think, "Where must I hips go? Where's the pressure?" It's just my body. So, it's so deep in my subconscious mind and it's there and I've got it. And how that happened, repetition, repetition, repetition, number one, immersion, immersion, immersion. Doing wrestling camps, long things and lots of practices like immersing yourself so it becomes a part of mastery. And actually used to do some hypnosis as well to help master those things. So those were the three ways to train subconscious mind, repetition, emerging, hypnosis. Okay. And so a couple of things that Stacy and Paul taught that was really, really cool. The first question was, "How many repetitions do you think it takes to reprogram? We don't know it's going to take a lot. It's not just you hearing something once. If you're a second timer, third timer, fourth timer. For wrestling, I would drill the drill, hundreds of times of repetition before it was reprogrammed and into my conscious mind. In fact, it wasn't, I actually live in a, in a, an experience where, it became my own move. Okay. So how many repetitions do you need to reprogram your subconscious mind? A lot. Okay. That's why it's like this event that we're going to teach the same things I've been teaching over and over, over. And because the repetition will try and get this into your subconscious mind so you can use it. So it becomes your move. It becomes your default. So instead of going to the trigger and you normally go to, this is the new trigger that comes up, Number two, things she said that was really cool. She said, "Resistance, means it's not yet wired into your nervous system." So if you hear something in your defaults like, "I've already heard this before." Boom, that is the tell-tale sign that you have not mastered it yet. Okay, because if you resist it, it means you conscious mind says, "I know this, give me the next thing." Okay. So if you're resisting it, like, "I already know this, I've heard this before. If you're resisting, it means you're not yet wired into your nervous system. That's like the tell-tale sign. Okay. If like, "Is this my nervous system? No." Okay. If you're resisting it, you're like, "I've heard this before," it means it's not in your subconscious mind. Okay, that leaves number three. Number three is when it is in your subconscious mind, and when he is in your subconscious mind, you'll actually be excited to hear the repetition. Can you guys benefit if you hear me tell the story for the 18th time and you are like, "Oh, this is annoying." And when you hear it and don't say anything, that means you're excited. That means it's in your subconscious mind. So, that's how you know. Okay. So as you're learning something, number one, the repetition is important. Number two, if you're like, I've heard this before. It means it is not in your subconscious mind is a tell-tale sign. If you're like, "This is awesome." I've heard this before." You start looking at it differently, you start seeing different intricacies, start getting to a deeper and deeper level, then you notice in your subconscious mind, okay. Those are the things. And one thing that Stacy said over and over and over again and said, "Be careful of what you're so certain with." Be careful, "I already know this, I already know this." Be careful what you're so certain with. Because if you think you already know it, you probably don't. At Least you don't know it to the level you need to, to have actual mastery. Okay. And so, as they were telling this, I was just so fascinated. I'm thinking about it. I start thinking about from my wrestling background, like, "Oh my gosh, this is so true." Let's start thinking about it for my business. If you look at what I do, I have handful of frameworks that I've been teaching for almost two decades now, which is crazy, and some of you guys have come into my world and you've read the DotCom Secrets book and you learn them. Then you read the Expert Secrets book and then the Traffic Secrets book, then you listened to 400 episodes of my podcast, and then you did the 5 Day Lead Challenge and you did The One Funnel Away Challenge and the Two Comma Club Live, then the Funnel Hacking Live One, and number two and number three and then you keep experiencing this again and I keep hearing these things over and over and over again. That's good. That's the key to mastery. It's the key to understanding these things. Okay. I promise you as many times you guys have heard me talk about these things, I've said them 10 times more than that. Which helps me master it. I've done it a hundred times more than that before I ever shared it and so these are the keys to mastery. And so if any, you guys are in a spot like, 'Oh, I've heard this before. Oh, I've done this before. Oh, I already know these things." You're at this, this level where it's in your conscious mind, but it's not mastery. It's not your subconscious mind. Okay. Cause resistance means it's not yet wired into your nervous system. You step back, and when you get the point where it becomes part of you, like that becomes your move where literally right now, if I'm going to launch a book, I don't think about it consciously. I don't think, "Oh, what's a book photo going to look like?" I've done it so many times I've mastered it. I can sit down. I can teach a two day event on a book, funnel without any notes, any preparation, anything because I know it. I understand I have perfect mastery of it, and that's the key. One thing they said at the end, which was kind of cool, "When you finished with this work, you're not finished until you become the solution. So in their relationship program, when you, the point where your relationships are perfect, where you, you become the person that you're trying to be, where, they asked you a question, you get a, you get into an argument or a fight or something triggers where your default is, the right reaction. That's when you're finished. That's when you become the solution. Right. In marketing. When you can look at any situation, you know exactly what to do, then you become the solution. That's the key. So you're doing this until you've gotten mastery. I thought it was such a cool pre-frame for their event. And the more I thought about it, the more I've seen that in my life with wrestling, with business, with things that I've achieved mastery in. It's so true. Right. I think about Tony Robbins, like I've been to Tony Robbins events lot. I've been to UPW a ton of times and I think the second UPW, I do remember, I've heard this, I've heard this before, which is funny. And then I went to a third time, a fourth time and fifth time took my kids to it. And the more times I hear it, the more I'm like, okay, cool. This is always talking about this. And I'm like looking for different angles and for ways to understand it. And if a ways to like, "How do I apply this to my life? How do I make this? So that it's my move, right? Because until it's your move, it's just something that you practiced. Okay. And practice is good, but that doesn't make mastery. Mastery comes from repetition, immersion and or hypnosis. It's doing it so many times now it becomes your move. And when it's your move, then you own it. Now you've become the person you need to be. You become the solution. And so, anyway, I hope that pre-frame helps and I hope it gives you some purpose now, "Ok, I'm going to go deep on Russell stuff and I'm going to really study everyday that's not my goal, but, but for some of you guys, that's what it is, you constantly understand marketing, but you don't understand it at a level of mastery, which is why you're still struggling. So keep going through it, repetition immersion. If you're not going to Funnel Hacking live yet, you're insane. If you haven't been to the Two Comma Club Live Virtual Event yet, you're insane. Like giving them the One Funnel Away Challenge the new one, you're insane. Keep doing it until you really understand that you've mastered it. And then that's when you become the solution. You'll know because now you're having success. Right. And the relationship game, like when, when every situation I get in my subconscious mind knows the right way to do it, when I've mastered the, frameworks and mastered the processes where I don't have to think about it consciously, It just subconsciously happens. That's when I can stop doing the work. That's when I become who I need to be. Right. The same, thing's true in your business. And so I hope that helps again. It helped me in my wrestling and I wish I would understood these things when I first started wrestling. But by my senior year, I was, I was realizing I was, I was seeing that I was seeing the man, I can practice the practice, but it's not my move until I've hit it subconsciously in the live match. And so let me force situations. I have to do it subconsciously. Let me get, in the beginning situations where I need to use this thing where I'm not using my conscious mind, but I'd have to hit it subconsciously. That's when it became my own. And so, anyway, I hope it helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thank you so much for listing and a couple of things. Number one is again, become immersed in my world. If you haven't yet, it's time. Start with the One Funnel Away Challenge. From there, coming to Comma Club Live Virtual Event, from there come to Funnel Hacking Live like immerse yourself. And if you want to learn more about how to use this stuff in relationships, go check out Stacy and Paul Martino, relationshipdevelopment.org is their site and I would just jump into podcasts and start immersing yourself. You'll love them, they're amazing people. Yeah, help me turn in my life. I think they can help you as well, but that's it guys, appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all on the next episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Mar 2021 08:00:00 -0000 3 Ways to Train the Subconscious Mind full 399 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Cool things I learned from Stacey and Paul Martino at the Breakthrough in Paradise retreat. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back... Cool things I learned from Stacey and Paul Martino at the Breakthrough in Paradise retreat. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to teach you guys three ways to train your subconscious mind. All right, everybody. I hope you guys are doing amazing? So my wife and I had a really cool experience. Some of you guys who've been to Funnel Hacking Live, or you've been to Two Comma Club Live or been around our community for the last couple of years, you've probably heard me talk more than once about a really unique, really cool couple, and their names are Stacey and Paul Martino. So they came into our world, they had a message, "They were trying to change the world." They had figured out a process to make relationships better, specifically, like the relationships with your significant other. And they are amazing people. In the last, "How many years they've been doing this work," I believe they saved over 10,000 marriages. They have a less than 1% divorce rate of people who've gone through the program and it's amazing. So, as someone who loves my wife and never wants to get divorced and is always trying to figure out ways to make everything better, the personal development nerd inside of me. After I met them, I was like, "I'm going to go through your stuff." I've been their marketing coach on the outside, so I've had the fun opportunity to be like, "Hey, you guys need to launch a podcast, "Hey, you need to write a book." "Hey, you need to do these things." So, some of them are selfish things for me because I wanted them to create a podcast, so I could listen to their podcast. I want them to write a book, so I can read their book. They haven't written a book yet, but they're working on it. Anyway, I'm telling you this is because if you want to go deep with them, they've got an amazing podcast. If you search Stacey and Paul Martino, they have an amazing course, they have a quick start, they have a challenge, they've got a bunch of things, but I went all in, struggled through their content. Collete and I went out to their live event, and then we signed up for the high-end coaching and this year we had a chance last week to go to their Breakthrough in Paradise retreat in Jamaica, which was really, really cool. And it's fun because obviously, what Stacy and Paul do is different from what I do, but there are similarities. They've got their frameworks and they're teaching. They're awesome with what they do. So they've got their frameworks and they teach them. They teach them in their podcasts, teach them on their Quick Start, teach them in their webinars, teach them in their challenges, teach them at their live events, they teach them at their mat… They have these frameworks and they teach them over and over and over again. And what's cool is I had this breakthrough as I was sitting there because I've gone through most of the stuff that they've taught multiple times now and obviously, I'm still trying to figure things out for myself, for my family, for my relationships with other people, my relationship with my wife, with my employees, with just all the things. I'm still trying to learn and figure things out, but what's cool is that I'm at Breakthrough in Paradise. It's like their top-end thing. This is the back of their value-add. And they started the event off, talking about, "There are three ways to train the subconscious mind." And it was interesting because one thing is that they talked about and said, "You know, a lot of stuff we're going to be teaching at this event, it's not new stuff. You've probably heard us talk about this more than once. And the reality is our job is not teaching new stuff all the time. Our job is to give you a level of mastery of the stuff we've been teaching you so far." And she said, "You know, right now, a lot of you guys have cognitively," Hopefully I said that word right. "Have heard us say the things like, 'Oh yeah, I know that. I know that. I know that.' And they started saying, "Our job is not to get this into your interior, your front of your mind, it's to get it into the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind is where this stuff becomes mastery, we're just doing it because you understand it at a deeper level. Not where you're trying to think, 'How does this work? What's the first step?'" And it was just cool, and so, as they started teaching this, they said, "I want to make sure because, if we don't pre-frame this, a lot of you guys are going to discount the stuff like, "Oh, I've heard that before. Oh, I already know that" Oh, where, they said, "The job is not for you to also get a new thing. It's for you to internalize this and to master this so that it becomes something that you have forever." And so that was the pre-frame. And then they start talking about, "Three ways to train your subconscious mind." It was really cool. It's the number one. The first way to train your subconscious mind is through repetition, hearing things over and over and over and over and over again. It's the repetition that's the key, which is why it's so important. The second thing is immersion. It was a five day event in Jamaica. It was a three-day event that we went to earlier. These immersion events where were there for a long time, because if you're just dabbling in, "Oh, I got a little piece here and a little piece here." And you're not getting immersion, you're just dabbling and it's hard to get that into your subconscious mind where it becomes mastery. And then third way is hypnosis. And she said, “At this event, we're not doing hypnosis, but we're doing repetition and immersion, repetition and immersion because we have to let this sink into your subconscious mind." It can't be like, "You and your spouse get in a fight and you're trying to think now, 'What was that thing again? Let's see, okay, they taught us this thing.'" It's like, no, you have to get it into your subconscious min so it becomes habit. So it becomes something that you can use. And as she was saying that, I started thinking about myself, I started thinking about wrestling. And I remember having this aha towards the end of my high school career. I wrestled in high school and in college. But it was toward the end of my high school year. And I was someone who became obsessed or stressed with wrestling. So I was wrestling during practice, before practice, after practice, I was doing summer camps. I was like, as much as I could, I was wrestling. And I remember, because you'd go and try and learn the new move, the new move, the new move, or, they teach you the same move and help you do it over and over again. And I remember I found this to be true. I would drill a move a hundred times in practice, but it wasn't my move until I hit it once in an actual match. I remember having that, epiphany, "I can train this thing a hundred times until I've actually hit it in the match where it's... Those who have ever competed at any high level when you're competing, it's not your conscious mind out there where you think, "Okay, what's the first thing, I'm going to shoot here. I'm going to grab his arm here. When I step on the mat and I shake their hand, it's weird that everything disappears and you just go, it's your subconscious mind taking over. So it's like all these things you've been drilling over and over and over again. So it's not me consciously, "Oh, I learned, a single leg, there's a single, I should go grab it." At that point, it's gone. Like I missed it. The mastery comes back, feeling it, "When this person moves this way, this is where my body needs to go and how I need to shift, and the angle I need to take." and so I'm drilling it over and over and over like a hundred times drilling it, you start feeling it. But then it wasn't until I hit it in a match. As soon as I hit a once in a match and not I tried in the match and I missed it, it was if I hit it once in a match and I executed on it, my body would remember that. I remember telling some of my teammates that, during my senior year, this move I would drilling it until I hit it in a match. It's not mine. And they, they didn't understand that. I said, "Yeah, like I can drill this a thousand times. But until I've, until I've used it in a match, like, I don't know how to explain that, but not mine." I know I understand this, it's because it was deeper than just the consciously me knowing how to do the move, it was subconscious where my could just hit it. And so what I would do is I would go out in my matches where I knew I was wrestling someone who was easy, someone I knew what I was going to beat. My job was not to do the moves that already knew. The job is I have to hit the moves I've been learning. The ones that aren't in my subconscious mind yet. Once I'm trying to train to get back there so I can feel it and it just comes up. Those are the ones I need to hit during my easy matches. So, that way they become my moves. Because, it's not my move until I've executed it at least once in a live match. And so I would do that say, "Okay, this week I've been drilling this, this, and this. So during this match, I'm not trying to do the moves I know, I'm going to be doing these new moves because I need to execute it live in a match. Because then it's in my subconscious mind and I've mastered it. And now I can bring that out, whatever I need to. But until then, it's not mine. It's just something that I've taught my head that I know how this thing works. You think about that as you get better and better at any kind of sport or any kind of thing, like in wrestling, my moves, the ones I'm amazing at, I can still to the is day hit them perfectly like I've done some so many times. I don't have to think, "Where must I hips go? Where's the pressure?" It's just my body. So, it's so deep in my subconscious mind and it's there and I've got it. And how that happened, repetition, repetition, repetition, number one, immersion, immersion, immersion. Doing wrestling camps, long things and lots of practices like immersing yourself so it becomes a part of mastery. And actually used to do some hypnosis as well to help master those things. So those were the three ways to train subconscious mind, repetition, emerging, hypnosis. Okay. And so a couple of things that Stacy and Paul taught that was really, really cool. The first question was, "How many repetitions do you think it takes to reprogram? We don't know it's going to take a lot. It's not just you hearing something once. If you're a second timer, third timer, fourth timer. For wrestling, I would drill the drill, hundreds of times of repetition before it was reprogrammed and into my conscious mind. In fact, it wasn't, I actually live in a, in a, an experience where, it became my own move. Okay. So how many repetitions do you need to reprogram your subconscious mind? A lot. Okay. That's why it's like this event that we're going to teach the same things I've been teaching over and over, over. And because the repetition will try and get this into your subconscious mind so you can use it. So it becomes your move. It becomes your default. So instead of going to the trigger and you normally go to, this is the new trigger that comes up, Number two, things she said that was really cool. She said, "Resistance, means it's not yet wired into your nervous system." So if you hear something in your defaults like, "I've already heard this before." Boom, that is the tell-tale sign that you have not mastered it yet. Okay, because if you resist it, it means you conscious mind says, "I know this, give me the next thing." Okay. So if you're resisting it, like, "I already know this, I've heard this before. If you're resisting, it means you're not yet wired into your nervous system. That's like the tell-tale sign. Okay. If like, "Is this my nervous system? No." Okay. If you're resisting it, you're like, "I've heard this before," it means it's not in your subconscious mind. Okay, that leaves number three. Number three is when it is in your subconscious mind, and when he is in your subconscious mind, you'll actually be excited to hear the repetition. Can you guys benefit if you hear me tell the story for the 18th time and you are like, "Oh, this is annoying." And when you hear it and don't say anything, that means you're excited. That means it's in your subconscious mind. So, that's how you know. Okay. So as you're learning something, number one, the repetition is important. Number two, if you're like, I've heard this before. It means it is not in your subconscious mind is a tell-tale sign. If you're like, "This is awesome." I've heard this before." You start looking at it differently, you start seeing different intricacies, start getting to a deeper and deeper level, then you notice in your subconscious mind, okay. Those are the things. And one thing that Stacy said over and over and over again and said, "Be careful of what you're so certain with." Be careful, "I already know this, I already know this." Be careful what you're so certain with. Because if you think you already know it, you probably don't. At Least you don't know it to the level you need to, to have actual mastery. Okay. And so, as they were telling this, I was just so fascinated. I'm thinking about it. I start thinking about from my wrestling background, like, "Oh my gosh, this is so true." Let's start thinking about it for my business. If you look at what I do, I have handful of frameworks that I've been teaching for almost two decades now, which is crazy, and some of you guys have come into my world and you've read the DotCom Secrets book and you learn them. Then you read the Expert Secrets book and then the Traffic Secrets book, then you listened to 400 episodes of my podcast, and then you did the 5 Day Lead Challenge and you did The One Funnel Away Challenge and the Two Comma Club Live, then the Funnel Hacking Live One, and number two and number three and then you keep experiencing this again and I keep hearing these things over and over and over again. That's good. That's the key to mastery. It's the key to understanding these things. Okay. I promise you as many times you guys have heard me talk about these things, I've said them 10 times more than that. Which helps me master it. I've done it a hundred times more than that before I ever shared it and so these are the keys to mastery. And so if any, you guys are in a spot like, 'Oh, I've heard this before. Oh, I've done this before. Oh, I already know these things." You're at this, this level where it's in your conscious mind, but it's not mastery. It's not your subconscious mind. Okay. Cause resistance means it's not yet wired into your nervous system. You step back, and when you get the point where it becomes part of you, like that becomes your move where literally right now, if I'm going to launch a book, I don't think about it consciously. I don't think, "Oh, what's a book photo going to look like?" I've done it so many times I've mastered it. I can sit down. I can teach a two day event on a book, funnel without any notes, any preparation, anything because I know it. I understand I have perfect mastery of it, and that's the key. One thing they said at the end, which was kind of cool, "When you finished with this work, you're not finished until you become the solution. So in their relationship program, when you, the point where your relationships are perfect, where you, you become the person that you're trying to be, where, they asked you a question, you get a, you get into an argument or a fight or something triggers where your default is, the right reaction. That's when you're finished. That's when you become the solution. Right. In marketing. When you can look at any situation, you know exactly what to do, then you become the solution. That's the key. So you're doing this until you've gotten mastery. I thought it was such a cool pre-frame for their event. And the more I thought about it, the more I've seen that in my life with wrestling, with business, with things that I've achieved mastery in. It's so true. Right. I think about Tony Robbins, like I've been to Tony Robbins events lot. I've been to UPW a ton of times and I think the second UPW, I do remember, I've heard this, I've heard this before, which is funny. And then I went to a third time, a fourth time and fifth time took my kids to it. And the more times I hear it, the more I'm like, okay, cool. This is always talking about this. And I'm like looking for different angles and for ways to understand it. And if a ways to like, "How do I apply this to my life? How do I make this? So that it's my move, right? Because until it's your move, it's just something that you practiced. Okay. And practice is good, but that doesn't make mastery. Mastery comes from repetition, immersion and or hypnosis. It's doing it so many times now it becomes your move. And when it's your move, then you own it. Now you've become the person you need to be. You become the solution. And so, anyway, I hope that pre-frame helps and I hope it gives you some purpose now, "Ok, I'm going to go deep on Russell stuff and I'm going to really study everyday that's not my goal, but, but for some of you guys, that's what it is, you constantly understand marketing, but you don't understand it at a level of mastery, which is why you're still struggling. So keep going through it, repetition immersion. If you're not going to Funnel Hacking live yet, you're insane. If you haven't been to the Two Comma Club Live Virtual Event yet, you're insane. Like giving them the One Funnel Away Challenge the new one, you're insane. Keep doing it until you really understand that you've mastered it. And then that's when you become the solution. You'll know because now you're having success. Right. And the relationship game, like when, when every situation I get in my subconscious mind knows the right way to do it, when I've mastered the, frameworks and mastered the processes where I don't have to think about it consciously, It just subconsciously happens. That's when I can stop doing the work. That's when I become who I need to be. Right. The same, thing's true in your business. And so I hope that helps again. It helped me in my wrestling and I wish I would understood these things when I first started wrestling. But by my senior year, I was, I was realizing I was, I was seeing that I was seeing the man, I can practice the practice, but it's not my move until I've hit it subconsciously in the live match. And so let me force situations. I have to do it subconsciously. Let me get, in the beginning situations where I need to use this thing where I'm not using my conscious mind, but I'd have to hit it subconsciously. That's when it became my own. And so, anyway, I hope it helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thank you so much for listing and a couple of things. Number one is again, become immersed in my world. If you haven't yet, it's time. Start with the One Funnel Away Challenge. From there, coming to Comma Club Live Virtual Event, from there come to Funnel Hacking Live like immerse yourself. And if you want to learn more about how to use this stuff in relationships, go check out Stacy and Paul Martino, relationshipdevelopment.org is their site and I would just jump into podcasts and start immersing yourself. You'll love them, they're amazing people. Yeah, help me turn in my life. I think they can help you as well, but that's it guys, appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all on the next episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Cool things I learned from Stacey and Paul Martino at the Breakthrough in Paradise retreat.

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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to teach you guys three ways to train your subconscious mind. All right, everybody. I hope you guys are doing amazing? So my wife and I had a really cool experience. Some of you guys who've been to Funnel Hacking Live, or you've been to Two Comma Club Live or been around our community for the last couple of years, you've probably heard me talk more than once about a really unique, really cool couple, and their names are Stacey and Paul Martino. So they came into our world, they had a message, "They were trying to change the world." They had figured out a process to make relationships better, specifically, like the relationships with your significant other. And they are amazing people. In the last, "How many years they've been doing this work," I believe they saved over 10,000 marriages. They have a less than 1% divorce rate of people who've gone through the program and it's amazing.

So, as someone who loves my wife and never wants to get divorced and is always trying to figure out ways to make everything better, the personal development nerd inside of me. After I met them, I was like, "I'm going to go through your stuff." I've been their marketing coach on the outside, so I've had the fun opportunity to be like, "Hey, you guys need to launch a podcast, "Hey, you need to write a book." "Hey, you need to do these things." So, some of them are selfish things for me because I wanted them to create a podcast, so I could listen to their podcast. I want them to write a book, so I can read their book. They haven't written a book yet, but they're working on it.

Anyway, I'm telling you this is because if you want to go deep with them, they've got an amazing podcast. If you search Stacey and Paul Martino, they have an amazing course, they have a quick start, they have a challenge, they've got a bunch of things, but I went all in, struggled through their content. Collete and I went out to their live event, and then we signed up for the high-end coaching and this year we had a chance last week to go to their Breakthrough in Paradise retreat in Jamaica, which was really, really cool. And it's fun because obviously, what Stacy and Paul do is different from what I do, but there are similarities. They've got their frameworks and they're teaching. They're awesome with what they do.

So they've got their frameworks and they teach them. They teach them in their podcasts, teach them on their Quick Start, teach them in their webinars, teach them in their challenges, teach them at their live events, they teach them at their mat… They have these frameworks and they teach them over and over and over again. And what's cool is I had this breakthrough as I was sitting there because I've gone through most of the stuff that they've taught multiple times now and obviously, I'm still trying to figure things out for myself, for my family, for my relationships with other people, my relationship with my wife, with my employees, with just all the things. I'm still trying to learn and figure things out, but what's cool is that I'm at Breakthrough in Paradise. It's like their top-end thing. This is the back of their value-add.

And they started the event off, talking about, "There are three ways to train the subconscious mind." And it was interesting because one thing is that they talked about and said, "You know, a lot of stuff we're going to be teaching at this event, it's not new stuff. You've probably heard us talk about this more than once. And the reality is our job is not teaching new stuff all the time. Our job is to give you a level of mastery of the stuff we've been teaching you so far." And she said, "You know, right now, a lot of you guys have cognitively," Hopefully I said that word right. "Have heard us say the things like, 'Oh yeah, I know that. I know that. I know that.' And they started saying, "Our job is not to get this into your interior, your front of your mind, it's to get it into the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind is where this stuff becomes mastery, we're just doing it because you understand it at a deeper level. Not where you're trying to think, 'How does this work? What's the first step?'"

And it was just cool, and so, as they started teaching this, they said, "I want to make sure because, if we don't pre-frame this, a lot of you guys are going to discount the stuff like, "Oh, I've heard that before. Oh, I already know that" Oh, where, they said, "The job is not for you to also get a new thing. It's for you to internalize this and to master this so that it becomes something that you have forever." And so that was the pre-frame.

And then they start talking about, "Three ways to train your subconscious mind." It was really cool. It's the number one. The first way to train your subconscious mind is through repetition, hearing things over and over and over and over and over again. It's the repetition that's the key, which is why it's so important. The second thing is immersion. It was a five day event in Jamaica. It was a three-day event that we went to earlier. These immersion events where were there for a long time, because if you're just dabbling in, "Oh, I got a little piece here and a little piece here." And you're not getting immersion, you're just dabbling and it's hard to get that into your subconscious mind where it becomes mastery. And then third way is hypnosis. And she said, “At this event, we're not doing hypnosis, but we're doing repetition and immersion, repetition and immersion because we have to let this sink into your subconscious mind."

It can't be like, "You and your spouse get in a fight and you're trying to think now, 'What was that thing again? Let's see, okay, they taught us this thing.'" It's like, no, you have to get it into your subconscious min so it becomes habit. So it becomes something that you can use. And as she was saying that, I started thinking about myself, I started thinking about wrestling. And I remember having this aha towards the end of my high school career. I wrestled in high school and in college. But it was toward the end of my high school year. And I was someone who became obsessed or stressed with wrestling. So I was wrestling during practice, before practice, after practice, I was doing summer camps. I was like, as much as I could, I was wrestling. And I remember, because you'd go and try and learn the new move, the new move, the new move, or, they teach you the same move and help you do it over and over again.

And I remember I found this to be true. I would drill a move a hundred times in practice, but it wasn't my move until I hit it once in an actual match. I remember having that, epiphany, "I can train this thing a hundred times until I've actually hit it in the match where it's... Those who have ever competed at any high level when you're competing, it's not your conscious mind out there where you think, "Okay, what's the first thing, I'm going to shoot here. I'm going to grab his arm here. When I step on the mat and I shake their hand, it's weird that everything disappears and you just go, it's your subconscious mind taking over. So it's like all these things you've been drilling over and over and over again.

So it's not me consciously, "Oh, I learned, a single leg, there's a single, I should go grab it." At that point, it's gone. Like I missed it. The mastery comes back, feeling it, "When this person moves this way, this is where my body needs to go and how I need to shift, and the angle I need to take." and so I'm drilling it over and over and over like a hundred times drilling it, you start feeling it. But then it wasn't until I hit it in a match. As soon as I hit a once in a match and not I tried in the match and I missed it, it was if I hit it once in a match and I executed on it, my body would remember that.

I remember telling some of my teammates that, during my senior year, this move I would drilling it until I hit it in a match. It's not mine. And they, they didn't understand that. I said, "Yeah, like I can drill this a thousand times. But until I've, until I've used it in a match, like, I don't know how to explain that, but not mine." I know I understand this, it's because it was deeper than just the consciously me knowing how to do the move, it was subconscious where my could just hit it. And so what I would do is I would go out in my matches where I knew I was wrestling someone who was easy, someone I knew what I was going to beat. My job was not to do the moves that already knew. The job is I have to hit the moves I've been learning.

The ones that aren't in my subconscious mind yet. Once I'm trying to train to get back there so I can feel it and it just comes up. Those are the ones I need to hit during my easy matches. So, that way they become my moves. Because, it's not my move until I've executed it at least once in a live match. And so I would do that say, "Okay, this week I've been drilling this, this, and this. So during this match, I'm not trying to do the moves I know, I'm going to be doing these new moves because I need to execute it live in a match. Because then it's in my subconscious mind and I've mastered it. And now I can bring that out, whatever I need to. But until then, it's not mine. It's just something that I've taught my head that I know how this thing works.

You think about that as you get better and better at any kind of sport or any kind of thing, like in wrestling, my moves, the ones I'm amazing at, I can still to the is day hit them perfectly like I've done some so many times. I don't have to think, "Where must I hips go? Where's the pressure?" It's just my body. So, it's so deep in my subconscious mind and it's there and I've got it. And how that happened, repetition, repetition, repetition, number one, immersion, immersion, immersion. Doing wrestling camps, long things and lots of practices like immersing yourself so it becomes a part of mastery. And actually used to do some hypnosis as well to help master those things. So those were the three ways to train subconscious mind, repetition, emerging, hypnosis.

Okay. And so a couple of things that Stacy and Paul taught that was really, really cool. The first question was, "How many repetitions do you think it takes to reprogram? We don't know it's going to take a lot. It's not just you hearing something once. If you're a second timer, third timer, fourth timer. For wrestling, I would drill the drill, hundreds of times of repetition before it was reprogrammed and into my conscious mind. In fact, it wasn't, I actually live in a, in a, an experience where, it became my own move. Okay. So how many repetitions do you need to reprogram your subconscious mind? A lot.

Okay. That's why it's like this event that we're going to teach the same things I've been teaching over and over, over. And because the repetition will try and get this into your subconscious mind so you can use it. So it becomes your move. It becomes your default. So instead of going to the trigger and you normally go to, this is the new trigger that comes up, Number two, things she said that was really cool. She said, "Resistance, means it's not yet wired into your nervous system." So if you hear something in your defaults like, "I've already heard this before." Boom, that is the tell-tale sign that you have not mastered it yet. Okay, because if you resist it, it means you conscious mind says, "I know this, give me the next thing." Okay. So if you're resisting it, like, "I already know this, I've heard this before. If you're resisting, it means you're not yet wired into your nervous system. That's like the tell-tale sign.

Okay. If like, "Is this my nervous system? No." Okay. If you're resisting it, you're like, "I've heard this before," it means it's not in your subconscious mind. Okay, that leaves number three. Number three is when it is in your subconscious mind, and when he is in your subconscious mind, you'll actually be excited to hear the repetition. Can you guys benefit if you hear me tell the story for the 18th time and you are like, "Oh, this is annoying." And when you hear it and don't say anything, that means you're excited. That means it's in your subconscious mind. So, that's how you know.

Okay. So as you're learning something, number one, the repetition is important. Number two, if you're like, I've heard this before. It means it is not in your subconscious mind is a tell-tale sign. If you're like, "This is awesome." I've heard this before." You start looking at it differently, you start seeing different intricacies, start getting to a deeper and deeper level, then you notice in your subconscious mind, okay.

Those are the things. And one thing that Stacy said over and over and over again and said, "Be careful of what you're so certain with." Be careful, "I already know this, I already know this." Be careful what you're so certain with. Because if you think you already know it, you probably don't. At Least you don't know it to the level you need to, to have actual mastery.

Okay. And so, as they were telling this, I was just so fascinated. I'm thinking about it. I start thinking about from my wrestling background, like, "Oh my gosh, this is so true." Let's start thinking about it for my business. If you look at what I do, I have handful of frameworks that I've been teaching for almost two decades now, which is crazy, and some of you guys have come into my world and you've read the DotCom Secrets book and you learn them. Then you read the Expert Secrets book and then the Traffic Secrets book, then you listened to 400 episodes of my podcast, and then you did the 5 Day Lead Challenge and you did The One Funnel Away Challenge and the Two Comma Club Live, then the Funnel Hacking Live One, and number two and number three and then you keep experiencing this again and I keep hearing these things over and over and over again. That's good. That's the key to mastery. It's the key to understanding these things. Okay.

I promise you as many times you guys have heard me talk about these things, I've said them 10 times more than that. Which helps me master it. I've done it a hundred times more than that before I ever shared it and so these are the keys to mastery. And so if any, you guys are in a spot like, 'Oh, I've heard this before. Oh, I've done this before. Oh, I already know these things." You're at this, this level where it's in your conscious mind, but it's not mastery. It's not your subconscious mind. Okay. Cause resistance means it's not yet wired into your nervous system. You step back, and when you get the point where it becomes part of you, like that becomes your move where literally right now, if I'm going to launch a book, I don't think about it consciously. I don't think, "Oh, what's a book photo going to look like?" I've done it so many times I've mastered it.

I can sit down. I can teach a two day event on a book, funnel without any notes, any preparation, anything because I know it. I understand I have perfect mastery of it, and that's the key. One thing they said at the end, which was kind of cool, "When you finished with this work, you're not finished until you become the solution. So in their relationship program, when you, the point where your relationships are perfect, where you, you become the person that you're trying to be, where, they asked you a question, you get a, you get into an argument or a fight or something triggers where your default is, the right reaction. That's when you're finished. That's when you become the solution. Right. In marketing. When you can look at any situation, you know exactly what to do, then you become the solution.

That's the key. So you're doing this until you've gotten mastery. I thought it was such a cool pre-frame for their event. And the more I thought about it, the more I've seen that in my life with wrestling, with business, with things that I've achieved mastery in. It's so true. Right. I think about Tony Robbins, like I've been to Tony Robbins events lot. I've been to UPW a ton of times and I think the second UPW, I do remember, I've heard this, I've heard this before, which is funny. And then I went to a third time, a fourth time and fifth time took my kids to it. And the more times I hear it, the more I'm like, okay, cool. This is always talking about this. And I'm like looking for different angles and for ways to understand it. And if a ways to like, "How do I apply this to my life? How do I make this? So that it's my move, right? Because until it's your move, it's just something that you practiced.

Okay. And practice is good, but that doesn't make mastery. Mastery comes from repetition, immersion and or hypnosis. It's doing it so many times now it becomes your move. And when it's your move, then you own it. Now you've become the person you need to be. You become the solution. And so, anyway, I hope that pre-frame helps and I hope it gives you some purpose now, "Ok, I'm going to go deep on Russell stuff and I'm going to really study everyday that's not my goal, but, but for some of you guys, that's what it is, you constantly understand marketing, but you don't understand it at a level of mastery, which is why you're still struggling.

So keep going through it, repetition immersion. If you're not going to Funnel Hacking live yet, you're insane. If you haven't been to the Two Comma Club Live Virtual Event yet, you're insane. Like giving them the One Funnel Away Challenge the new one, you're insane. Keep doing it until you really understand that you've mastered it. And then that's when you become the solution. You'll know because now you're having success. Right. And the relationship game, like when, when every situation I get in my subconscious mind knows the right way to do it, when I've mastered the, frameworks and mastered the processes where I don't have to think about it consciously, It just subconsciously happens. That's when I can stop doing the work. That's when I become who I need to be. Right. The same, thing's true in your business. And so I hope that helps again.

It helped me in my wrestling and I wish I would understood these things when I first started wrestling. But by my senior year, I was, I was realizing I was, I was seeing that I was seeing the man, I can practice the practice, but it's not my move until I've hit it subconsciously in the live match. And so let me force situations. I have to do it subconsciously.

Let me get, in the beginning situations where I need to use this thing where I'm not using my conscious mind, but I'd have to hit it subconsciously. That's when it became my own. And so, anyway, I hope it helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thank you so much for listing and a couple of things. Number one is again, become immersed in my world. If you haven't yet, it's time. Start with the One Funnel Away Challenge. From there, coming to Comma Club Live Virtual Event, from there come to Funnel Hacking Live like immerse yourself. And if you want to learn more about how to use this stuff in relationships, go check out Stacy and Paul Martino, relationshipdevelopment.org is their site and I would just jump into podcasts and start immersing yourself. You'll love them, they're amazing people. Yeah, help me turn in my life. I think they can help you as well, but that's it guys, appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all on the next episode.

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]]> 1005 no RANT: The Secret to Not Being Offended https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/rant-the-secret-to-not-being-offended Are you getting offended by people in your life? If so, listen to this now! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I've got a rant, and the rant is I'm going to teach you guys the secret to not being offended. All right, so good morning. Today started off with two people being offended because I sent them a gift. These people in my High End Coaching program, who I send them a gift to help them in their journey, in their life, and they were offended. So offended in fact, they went and they posted it online at how offended they were about the gift that I sent them for free. So that's how the morning started out, and then ... I'm not going to give details. There are other things in this world around us that are happening. And everyone's getting offended about the stupidest things almost all the time, and it is driving me nuts. And so I wanted to teach you guys a secret. This is the secret about how to not get offended. I don't get offended very often. In fact, it's very, very rare that I do. And I can tell you this, the quality of life is a bajillion times better because I don't get offended at every little thing that comes across my plate. I have people who I completely strongly, strongly, strongly disagree with, and guess what? They can post their thoughts, their beliefs, I don't get offended. It's the weirdest thing. And so I'm going to teach you guys a secret. Do you guys want the secret? Because this will change the quality of your life. Now some of you guys are going to be offended I'm even telling you about this. For those of you who are getting offended right now or will be offended momentarily, that is a sign that you need this more than anybody else. And so, yeah, so here we go. This is the secret to not getting offended. You have to assume that even if people disagree if you, even if what they believe is not something that you believe in. Even if they say something that you strongly ... You hear it or you see it or you read it, it makes you sick to your stomach and making you upset, whatever, frustrated. The secret is to understand that people all act out of good intentions. What? "There's no way, this person's evil." No, people act out of good intentions. This is the big secret, this is the big aha that most people want to understand. People aren't going out there trying to be horrible people, they're doing it out of good intentions. The first time I heard this epiphany, this aha, the first time I realized this to be true, I was actually at a Tony Robbins event. And Tony talked about this. He said, he said something along the lines of that people act out of good intentions, even if what they're doing is evil. And I was like, "What does that even mean?" And he said, he was telling the story about UPW, which is his Unleash the Power Within event. He said that, "I was sitting in this event and we're talking about tensions." He said, "I had a workshop and people writing their notes down." And he said that, 'After you write your notes, you share it with your partner." And apparently some guy saw his partner's notes, and in his notes he talked about the fact that he was planning on killing his wife, his kids, and then himself. And this guy starts freaking out. He goes and finds one of the ushers, like, "Oh, my partner here is about to do something really bad. You should do something." And so they went and told Tony. And so Tony called the guy up, "Hey, so-and-so, come up on stage." And he's like, "Tell us what's going on?" And the guy was just like, "Well, my plans are after this, then I'm going to go home and I'm going to kill my wife and my kids and then myself." And everyone in the audience is like, "Aah," super offended. "This person is evil. This person is the most horrible person on this planet." All these things. And that would be most of our gut instinct, is this, "Aah." And Tony starts working the guy and starts talking through things with him and say, "Well, why are you doing this? What's the purpose? You're not just doing it to be a horrible person, why?" And when it came down to the guy came back and was like, "My father left when I was young. And it ruined my life. These are, all the things happened because my father left me." And he said, "I am miserable. And I want to leave, I want to leave this earth. But I know that if I leave this earth it's going to destroy the life of my wife and my kids, I love them so much. I don't want them to go through the pain that I went through. And so because of that, this is why I'm going to do this thing." And obviously, yes, it is messed up. It's like, there's a lot of psychological help that needs to happen there. I'm not downplaying that at all, but the person was acting out of good intentions. They weren't going and trying to be this horrible person, they were trying to act out of good intentions. And it's interesting, when I see people post something that I don't agree with, I don't try to get the initial visceral response, like, "Aah, that person is evil. I'm offended. Let me tell them why they're evil in the comments down below." Instead, I look at it, I'm like, "Man, I don't agree with that. But what's their intentions? Is it good?" And I think about it and I'm like, "Huh, I strongly disagree with what they're saying and why they're saying it." But typically, almost every time I've tried to do this exercise, I'm like, "Man, the reason why they're doing that is actually out of good intentions." They're doing it because they believe this, they're doing it because of this. And it's interesting as I step back and I stop and I say, "What are their intentions? Is there any possible way they have good intentions with this thing that they're posting? This thing that they're saying, this thing that they did, the thing they experienced, the thing ... The gift that they sent me in the mail." And then I started thinking for a second, "Is there any possible way that this person had good intentions? And what would that look like? Well, what's the lens I'd have to look through for me to post that?" And I can look at it and say, "Man, I completely disagree with that person. I think they're wrong, I don't agree with anything, but I can see the reason why they did it is because of this. This is their intentions and their intentions were pure." And I believe, maybe I'm just naive. I don't know, maybe I am. But I think that all humans who are on this planet here, they act out of good intentions. And sometimes intentions are messed up, sometimes a psychological damage and they're just like ... There's all sorts of things that happen, but I think that all the decisions that all of us make, there are good intentions. And so because of that, I can look at somebody who does something and not be offended. I can look at somebody who believes different than me, and I can love them. I can look at somebody who I think is insane because of their beliefs, their thoughts, their posts, their gifts, their whatever. And I can still love them because I'm like, "Man, they're acting on a good intention. This is what they think is best and that's why they're doing it." And so that's the secret, you guys. That's the secret not being offended. And I promise you, if you start looking at that lens differently, you're going to start loving people that you see, people who ... Christ talked about you should love your enemies, this is how you do it. You understand, "Man, this person may be my enemy, but they're doing it because they think this is right. They have good intentions. They're trying to help people in a way that I completely disagree with, yet I can still love them because they're doing out of good intentions." There's a quote I posted today on my Facebook wall, my personal wall, it said ... It's from Brigham Young, it says, "He who takes offense when offense is not intended is a fool, but he who takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool." And so I want you guys to remember that, don't take offense. First off, if someone does something and they're not trying to offend you and you take offense to that, you're a fool. You're an idiot. That's on you, not on them. And then if they do, if they're trying to offend you and you take offense, then you're a greater fool. So I thought that was really powerful. So anyway, I wanted to share with you guys today because there's too much of this in the world today. Everyone's getting offended and it's ridiculous. Especially when somebody sends you a gift in the mail, or especially when somebody posts something about their beliefs, because they're trying to help people in the way that they think is right. I don't care if you hate them, if you disagree with them, if you think what they're doing is evil, bad, we need to love them. They're doing it out of good intentions. So instead, try to help them align their intentions if they, what can you do ... Instead of going in the comments and try and destroy this person and cancel them because they did something that you disagree with, what if you came back and say, "Man, how can I actually help serve this person? They're in good attention, but I think that they're steered the wrong direction." andm this intervention that Tony went through, he didn't go and get the guy locked up. It's like, "Man, I should help this person realign their understanding. If I can shift their intentions to something more positive, maybe this outcome won't be as bad as they think." And you do that not by trying to force somebody, not by trying to make them to change, you do it through inspiration. Who are you becoming? I just went to Stacey and Paul Martino's event, and they talk a lot about this concept. They call it transformation through inspiration. If you wanted to move somebody, being offended and trying to cancel them will not get them to move. It'll just make them hate you more. Instead, live your life in a way that spires people, that transforms people to make them want to think like you think. That's the key, that's the big secret. You look about the greatest teacher of all, Jesus Christ, when he came to this earth. He was not coming down trying to force people to follow him. No, he said, "I'm going to set an example. And if you love me, keep my commandments. And this is what I'm going to do." And he showed these different things. And man, we looked at him and said, "This guy, I love him, I respect him. I'm going to change my beliefs because I'm inspired by him and what he did." And that's the key, inspiration through transformation. So instead of trying to be offended, live your life in a way that gets people inspired. So that when they're struggling and they're realizing, "Man, this blueprint, this thing that I believe this, my intentions are wrong. Who do I trust? Who do I listen to?" It's like, "Oh, the person that was yelling in the comments, I'm going to trust their opinion." No, no, no. That's not what they do. They step back and they say, "Hum, well, that person, that Russell's really cool to me all the time. Even when he disagrees with me. Man, he's got something figured out. Maybe I'll listen to him. Maybe I'll ... What does he believe? What's he doing?" And that's how you get people, that's how you cause change. Not the other way around. So quit being offended, is number one. Okay. Number two, the secrets to not being offended is understanding that people are all acting out of good intentions. I honestly believe that. Number three, if you take offense when offense is not intended, you're a fool. If you take offense when offense is intended, you're an even greater fool. And number four, if you want to change people's lives, literally it's transformation through inspiration. Not by being offended and trying to cancel, I mean, yelling in the comments. So there you go you guys. If I ever send you a gift, even if you hate it, just throw it away. It's cool, I was trying to do something cool. I thought it was helping you. And if you're offended somehow, that's on you, not on me. So that's that. Appreciate you guys, hope you are all enjoying the day. Go out there, love somebody you disagree with. Live life in a way that transforms, inspires people, and be good to people. That said, appreciate you all and I'll talk to you soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Mar 2021 08:00:00 -0000 RANT: The Secret to Not Being Offended full 398 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Are you getting offended by people in your life? If so, listen to this now! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing... Are you getting offended by people in your life? If so, listen to this now! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I've got a rant, and the rant is I'm going to teach you guys the secret to not being offended. All right, so good morning. Today started off with two people being offended because I sent them a gift. These people in my High End Coaching program, who I send them a gift to help them in their journey, in their life, and they were offended. So offended in fact, they went and they posted it online at how offended they were about the gift that I sent them for free. So that's how the morning started out, and then ... I'm not going to give details. There are other things in this world around us that are happening. And everyone's getting offended about the stupidest things almost all the time, and it is driving me nuts. And so I wanted to teach you guys a secret. This is the secret about how to not get offended. I don't get offended very often. In fact, it's very, very rare that I do. And I can tell you this, the quality of life is a bajillion times better because I don't get offended at every little thing that comes across my plate. I have people who I completely strongly, strongly, strongly disagree with, and guess what? They can post their thoughts, their beliefs, I don't get offended. It's the weirdest thing. And so I'm going to teach you guys a secret. Do you guys want the secret? Because this will change the quality of your life. Now some of you guys are going to be offended I'm even telling you about this. For those of you who are getting offended right now or will be offended momentarily, that is a sign that you need this more than anybody else. And so, yeah, so here we go. This is the secret to not getting offended. You have to assume that even if people disagree if you, even if what they believe is not something that you believe in. Even if they say something that you strongly ... You hear it or you see it or you read it, it makes you sick to your stomach and making you upset, whatever, frustrated. The secret is to understand that people all act out of good intentions. What? "There's no way, this person's evil." No, people act out of good intentions. This is the big secret, this is the big aha that most people want to understand. People aren't going out there trying to be horrible people, they're doing it out of good intentions. The first time I heard this epiphany, this aha, the first time I realized this to be true, I was actually at a Tony Robbins event. And Tony talked about this. He said, he said something along the lines of that people act out of good intentions, even if what they're doing is evil. And I was like, "What does that even mean?" And he said, he was telling the story about UPW, which is his Unleash the Power Within event. He said that, "I was sitting in this event and we're talking about tensions." He said, "I had a workshop and people writing their notes down." And he said that, 'After you write your notes, you share it with your partner." And apparently some guy saw his partner's notes, and in his notes he talked about the fact that he was planning on killing his wife, his kids, and then himself. And this guy starts freaking out. He goes and finds one of the ushers, like, "Oh, my partner here is about to do something really bad. You should do something." And so they went and told Tony. And so Tony called the guy up, "Hey, so-and-so, come up on stage." And he's like, "Tell us what's going on?" And the guy was just like, "Well, my plans are after this, then I'm going to go home and I'm going to kill my wife and my kids and then myself." And everyone in the audience is like, "Aah," super offended. "This person is evil. This person is the most horrible person on this planet." All these things. And that would be most of our gut instinct, is this, "Aah." And Tony starts working the guy and starts talking through things with him and say, "Well, why are you doing this? What's the purpose? You're not just doing it to be a horrible person, why?" And when it came down to the guy came back and was like, "My father left when I was young. And it ruined my life. These are, all the things happened because my father left me." And he said, "I am miserable. And I want to leave, I want to leave this earth. But I know that if I leave this earth it's going to destroy the life of my wife and my kids, I love them so much. I don't want them to go through the pain that I went through. And so because of that, this is why I'm going to do this thing." And obviously, yes, it is messed up. It's like, there's a lot of psychological help that needs to happen there. I'm not downplaying that at all, but the person was acting out of good intentions. They weren't going and trying to be this horrible person, they were trying to act out of good intentions. And it's interesting, when I see people post something that I don't agree with, I don't try to get the initial visceral response, like, "Aah, that person is evil. I'm offended. Let me tell them why they're evil in the comments down below." Instead, I look at it, I'm like, "Man, I don't agree with that. But what's their intentions? Is it good?" And I think about it and I'm like, "Huh, I strongly disagree with what they're saying and why they're saying it." But typically, almost every time I've tried to do this exercise, I'm like, "Man, the reason why they're doing that is actually out of good intentions." They're doing it because they believe this, they're doing it because of this. And it's interesting as I step back and I stop and I say, "What are their intentions? Is there any possible way they have good intentions with this thing that they're posting? This thing that they're saying, this thing that they did, the thing they experienced, the thing ... The gift that they sent me in the mail." And then I started thinking for a second, "Is there any possible way that this person had good intentions? And what would that look like? Well, what's the lens I'd have to look through for me to post that?" And I can look at it and say, "Man, I completely disagree with that person. I think they're wrong, I don't agree with anything, but I can see the reason why they did it is because of this. This is their intentions and their intentions were pure." And I believe, maybe I'm just naive. I don't know, maybe I am. But I think that all humans who are on this planet here, they act out of good intentions. And sometimes intentions are messed up, sometimes a psychological damage and they're just like ... There's all sorts of things that happen, but I think that all the decisions that all of us make, there are good intentions. And so because of that, I can look at somebody who does something and not be offended. I can look at somebody who believes different than me, and I can love them. I can look at somebody who I think is insane because of their beliefs, their thoughts, their posts, their gifts, their whatever. And I can still love them because I'm like, "Man, they're acting on a good intention. This is what they think is best and that's why they're doing it." And so that's the secret, you guys. That's the secret not being offended. And I promise you, if you start looking at that lens differently, you're going to start loving people that you see, people who ... Christ talked about you should love your enemies, this is how you do it. You understand, "Man, this person may be my enemy, but they're doing it because they think this is right. They have good intentions. They're trying to help people in a way that I completely disagree with, yet I can still love them because they're doing out of good intentions." There's a quote I posted today on my Facebook wall, my personal wall, it said ... It's from Brigham Young, it says, "He who takes offense when offense is not intended is a fool, but he who takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool." And so I want you guys to remember that, don't take offense. First off, if someone does something and they're not trying to offend you and you take offense to that, you're a fool. You're an idiot. That's on you, not on them. And then if they do, if they're trying to offend you and you take offense, then you're a greater fool. So I thought that was really powerful. So anyway, I wanted to share with you guys today because there's too much of this in the world today. Everyone's getting offended and it's ridiculous. Especially when somebody sends you a gift in the mail, or especially when somebody posts something about their beliefs, because they're trying to help people in the way that they think is right. I don't care if you hate them, if you disagree with them, if you think what they're doing is evil, bad, we need to love them. They're doing it out of good intentions. So instead, try to help them align their intentions if they, what can you do ... Instead of going in the comments and try and destroy this person and cancel them because they did something that you disagree with, what if you came back and say, "Man, how can I actually help serve this person? They're in good attention, but I think that they're steered the wrong direction." andm this intervention that Tony went through, he didn't go and get the guy locked up. It's like, "Man, I should help this person realign their understanding. If I can shift their intentions to something more positive, maybe this outcome won't be as bad as they think." And you do that not by trying to force somebody, not by trying to make them to change, you do it through inspiration. Who are you becoming? I just went to Stacey and Paul Martino's event, and they talk a lot about this concept. They call it transformation through inspiration. If you wanted to move somebody, being offended and trying to cancel them will not get them to move. It'll just make them hate you more. Instead, live your life in a way that spires people, that transforms people to make them want to think like you think. That's the key, that's the big secret. You look about the greatest teacher of all, Jesus Christ, when he came to this earth. He was not coming down trying to force people to follow him. No, he said, "I'm going to set an example. And if you love me, keep my commandments. And this is what I'm going to do." And he showed these different things. And man, we looked at him and said, "This guy, I love him, I respect him. I'm going to change my beliefs because I'm inspired by him and what he did." And that's the key, inspiration through transformation. So instead of trying to be offended, live your life in a way that gets people inspired. So that when they're struggling and they're realizing, "Man, this blueprint, this thing that I believe this, my intentions are wrong. Who do I trust? Who do I listen to?" It's like, "Oh, the person that was yelling in the comments, I'm going to trust their opinion." No, no, no. That's not what they do. They step back and they say, "Hum, well, that person, that Russell's really cool to me all the time. Even when he disagrees with me. Man, he's got something figured out. Maybe I'll listen to him. Maybe I'll ... What does he believe? What's he doing?" And that's how you get people, that's how you cause change. Not the other way around. So quit being offended, is number one. Okay. Number two, the secrets to not being offended is understanding that people are all acting out of good intentions. I honestly believe that. Number three, if you take offense when offense is not intended, you're a fool. If you take offense when offense is intended, you're an even greater fool. And number four, if you want to change people's lives, literally it's transformation through inspiration. Not by being offended and trying to cancel, I mean, yelling in the comments. So there you go you guys. If I ever send you a gift, even if you hate it, just throw it away. It's cool, I was trying to do something cool. I thought it was helping you. And if you're offended somehow, that's on you, not on me. So that's that. Appreciate you guys, hope you are all enjoying the day. Go out there, love somebody you disagree with. Live life in a way that transforms, inspires people, and be good to people. That said, appreciate you all and I'll talk to you soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Are you getting offended by people in your life? If so, listen to this now!

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What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I've got a rant, and the rant is I'm going to teach you guys the secret to not being offended.

All right, so good morning. Today started off with two people being offended because I sent them a gift. These people in my High End Coaching program, who I send them a gift to help them in their journey, in their life, and they were offended. So offended in fact, they went and they posted it online at how offended they were about the gift that I sent them for free.

So that's how the morning started out, and then ... I'm not going to give details. There are other things in this world around us that are happening. And everyone's getting offended about the stupidest things almost all the time, and it is driving me nuts. And so I wanted to teach you guys a secret. This is the secret about how to not get offended.

I don't get offended very often. In fact, it's very, very rare that I do. And I can tell you this, the quality of life is a bajillion times better because I don't get offended at every little thing that comes across my plate. I have people who I completely strongly, strongly, strongly disagree with, and guess what? They can post their thoughts, their beliefs, I don't get offended. It's the weirdest thing.

And so I'm going to teach you guys a secret. Do you guys want the secret? Because this will change the quality of your life. Now some of you guys are going to be offended I'm even telling you about this. For those of you who are getting offended right now or will be offended momentarily, that is a sign that you need this more than anybody else. And so, yeah, so here we go.

This is the secret to not getting offended. You have to assume that even if people disagree if you, even if what they believe is not something that you believe in. Even if they say something that you strongly ... You hear it or you see it or you read it, it makes you sick to your stomach and making you upset, whatever, frustrated. The secret is to understand that people all act out of good intentions.

What? "There's no way, this person's evil." No, people act out of good intentions. This is the big secret, this is the big aha that most people want to understand. People aren't going out there trying to be horrible people, they're doing it out of good intentions.

The first time I heard this epiphany, this aha, the first time I realized this to be true, I was actually at a Tony Robbins event. And Tony talked about this. He said, he said something along the lines of that people act out of good intentions, even if what they're doing is evil. And I was like, "What does that even mean?" And he said, he was telling the story about UPW, which is his Unleash the Power Within event.

He said that, "I was sitting in this event and we're talking about tensions." He said, "I had a workshop and people writing their notes down." And he said that, 'After you write your notes, you share it with your partner." And apparently some guy saw his partner's notes, and in his notes he talked about the fact that he was planning on killing his wife, his kids, and then himself.

And this guy starts freaking out. He goes and finds one of the ushers, like, "Oh, my partner here is about to do something really bad. You should do something." And so they went and told Tony. And so Tony called the guy up, "Hey, so-and-so, come up on stage." And he's like, "Tell us what's going on?" And the guy was just like, "Well, my plans are after this, then I'm going to go home and I'm going to kill my wife and my kids and then myself."

And everyone in the audience is like, "Aah," super offended. "This person is evil. This person is the most horrible person on this planet." All these things. And that would be most of our gut instinct, is this, "Aah." And Tony starts working the guy and starts talking through things with him and say, "Well, why are you doing this? What's the purpose? You're not just doing it to be a horrible person, why?"

And when it came down to the guy came back and was like, "My father left when I was young. And it ruined my life. These are, all the things happened because my father left me." And he said, "I am miserable. And I want to leave, I want to leave this earth. But I know that if I leave this earth it's going to destroy the life of my wife and my kids, I love them so much. I don't want them to go through the pain that I went through. And so because of that, this is why I'm going to do this thing."

And obviously, yes, it is messed up. It's like, there's a lot of psychological help that needs to happen there. I'm not downplaying that at all, but the person was acting out of good intentions. They weren't going and trying to be this horrible person, they were trying to act out of good intentions.

And it's interesting, when I see people post something that I don't agree with, I don't try to get the initial visceral response, like, "Aah, that person is evil. I'm offended. Let me tell them why they're evil in the comments down below." Instead, I look at it, I'm like, "Man, I don't agree with that. But what's their intentions? Is it good?" And I think about it and I'm like, "Huh, I strongly disagree with what they're saying and why they're saying it."

But typically, almost every time I've tried to do this exercise, I'm like, "Man, the reason why they're doing that is actually out of good intentions." They're doing it because they believe this, they're doing it because of this. And it's interesting as I step back and I stop and I say, "What are their intentions? Is there any possible way they have good intentions with this thing that they're posting? This thing that they're saying, this thing that they did, the thing they experienced, the thing ... The gift that they sent me in the mail."

And then I started thinking for a second, "Is there any possible way that this person had good intentions? And what would that look like? Well, what's the lens I'd have to look through for me to post that?" And I can look at it and say, "Man, I completely disagree with that person. I think they're wrong, I don't agree with anything, but I can see the reason why they did it is because of this. This is their intentions and their intentions were pure."

And I believe, maybe I'm just naive. I don't know, maybe I am. But I think that all humans who are on this planet here, they act out of good intentions. And sometimes intentions are messed up, sometimes a psychological damage and they're just like ... There's all sorts of things that happen, but I think that all the decisions that all of us make, there are good intentions.

And so because of that, I can look at somebody who does something and not be offended. I can look at somebody who believes different than me, and I can love them. I can look at somebody who I think is insane because of their beliefs, their thoughts, their posts, their gifts, their whatever. And I can still love them because I'm like, "Man, they're acting on a good intention. This is what they think is best and that's why they're doing it."

And so that's the secret, you guys. That's the secret not being offended. And I promise you, if you start looking at that lens differently, you're going to start loving people that you see, people who ... Christ talked about you should love your enemies, this is how you do it. You understand, "Man, this person may be my enemy, but they're doing it because they think this is right. They have good intentions. They're trying to help people in a way that I completely disagree with, yet I can still love them because they're doing out of good intentions."

There's a quote I posted today on my Facebook wall, my personal wall, it said ... It's from Brigham Young, it says, "He who takes offense when offense is not intended is a fool, but he who takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool." And so I want you guys to remember that, don't take offense. First off, if someone does something and they're not trying to offend you and you take offense to that, you're a fool. You're an idiot. That's on you, not on them. And then if they do, if they're trying to offend you and you take offense, then you're a greater fool. So I thought that was really powerful.

So anyway, I wanted to share with you guys today because there's too much of this in the world today. Everyone's getting offended and it's ridiculous. Especially when somebody sends you a gift in the mail, or especially when somebody posts something about their beliefs, because they're trying to help people in the way that they think is right. I don't care if you hate them, if you disagree with them, if you think what they're doing is evil, bad, we need to love them. They're doing it out of good intentions.

So instead, try to help them align their intentions if they, what can you do ... Instead of going in the comments and try and destroy this person and cancel them because they did something that you disagree with, what if you came back and say, "Man, how can I actually help serve this person? They're in good attention, but I think that they're steered the wrong direction."

andm this intervention that Tony went through, he didn't go and get the guy locked up. It's like, "Man, I should help this person realign their understanding. If I can shift their intentions to something more positive, maybe this outcome won't be as bad as they think." And you do that not by trying to force somebody, not by trying to make them to change, you do it through inspiration. Who are you becoming?

I just went to Stacey and Paul Martino's event, and they talk a lot about this concept. They call it transformation through inspiration. If you wanted to move somebody, being offended and trying to cancel them will not get them to move. It'll just make them hate you more. Instead, live your life in a way that spires people, that transforms people to make them want to think like you think. That's the key, that's the big secret.

You look about the greatest teacher of all, Jesus Christ, when he came to this earth. He was not coming down trying to force people to follow him. No, he said, "I'm going to set an example. And if you love me, keep my commandments. And this is what I'm going to do." And he showed these different things. And man, we looked at him and said, "This guy, I love him, I respect him. I'm going to change my beliefs because I'm inspired by him and what he did."

And that's the key, inspiration through transformation. So instead of trying to be offended, live your life in a way that gets people inspired. So that when they're struggling and they're realizing, "Man, this blueprint, this thing that I believe this, my intentions are wrong. Who do I trust? Who do I listen to?" It's like, "Oh, the person that was yelling in the comments, I'm going to trust their opinion."

No, no, no. That's not what they do. They step back and they say, "Hum, well, that person, that Russell's really cool to me all the time. Even when he disagrees with me. Man, he's got something figured out. Maybe I'll listen to him. Maybe I'll ... What does he believe? What's he doing?" And that's how you get people, that's how you cause change. Not the other way around.

So quit being offended, is number one. Okay. Number two, the secrets to not being offended is understanding that people are all acting out of good intentions. I honestly believe that. Number three, if you take offense when offense is not intended, you're a fool. If you take offense when offense is intended, you're an even greater fool. And number four, if you want to change people's lives, literally it's transformation through inspiration. Not by being offended and trying to cancel, I mean, yelling in the comments.

So there you go you guys. If I ever send you a gift, even if you hate it, just throw it away. It's cool, I was trying to do something cool. I thought it was helping you. And if you're offended somehow, that's on you, not on me. So that's that. Appreciate you guys, hope you are all enjoying the day. Go out there, love somebody you disagree with. Live life in a way that transforms, inspires people, and be good to people. That said, appreciate you all and I'll talk to you soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 740 no The Secret of Immersion https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-of-immersion How to find the secret things you didn’t even know you were looking for. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you guys are pumped and excited for today, because I am. The sun's up, it's beautiful. I just got out of the dentist and wanted to hang out with my friends. All right everybody. I hope that you guys are all been amazing. I'm working on so many fun things right now that I'm not even sure what to share first or second or third or where to go or what to do. But I wanted to just jump in today because I had an interesting conversation yesterday with Mr. Steve Larson, who's one of my favorite people, not only inside the ClickFunnels community, but just in the world. He's super cool. And I appreciate, I was hanging out with him, talking to him and it's been fun. Those who don't know Steve, he came into my world as my funnel builder for a couple of years and then went off on his own. It's been fun watching him build his movement and his tribe. But he was there, like when I was writing the Expert Secrets book. It's fun because when I decided to take on a project, to start writing, and you go through this phase of brainstorming and searching and researching and finding things out and discovery and like, so he was there during the whole process. Literally sitting next to me during most of it, which was pretty cool. I don't know. A pretty cool opportunity. He tells me stories about a lot. Like, remember when we were doing that and you were coming up with this and like... It's kind of fun because yesterday he messaged me and he's like, "Hey, I'm looking for a coach in this area of my life, who would you recommend? Like, what should I do?" And I kind of stopped for a second. And I was like, "You know what? There's a lot of good people. And I was recommending a few people and stuff like that. But I came back and I was like, "You know what?" Me and him have talked about this a lot, but I was like, "Honestly, the thing that's going to get your learning and your understanding of the next level more than anything is probably not the next coach, as much as you sitting down and actually writing a book. This is not a podcast about writing a book. I did one of those recently, but I wanted to talk about this because there's so many people that want to become an expert. They want to write a book. They want to make courses. They want to make podcasts. Things like that, right? We talk about the value and the importance of publishing. If you've been around me for any amount of time, you know I'm such a big believer in everybody needs to be publishing daily. Like, what are you publishing? Like pick a podcast and do it daily, or write a blog post daily, or do YouTube or Facebook live. It doesn't even matter. The goal though, is as you start doing that, you start finding your voice, right? If you've read the Expert Secrets book, I talk about actually... excuse me, the Traffic Secrets book. I talk about the two reasons why you need to publish daily. It's because number one, it's going to help you to find your voice. Number two, it's going to help your audience to find you. I'm a big believer in that, but there's something magical about actually writing a book. That's been interesting. I'm writing my fourth book right now, and I'm not telling details about it yet, but I'm writing it and it's just been so fun. I kind of forgot about this process. Like, as you start writing... because you to take this concept and break it down. How do you make it simple? How do you make it interesting? What are the case studies and the use cases? Like have other people talked about this already? I want to make sure I'm not saying the same thing other people have said. You get in this like research phase. You're studying and you're learning and trying to figure things out. And by going through that process, it's insane the insights you start getting. I almost feel like God, or whoever you want to believe, I obviously believe it's God, but he's like, "If you're willing to go on this journey, I'm going to start making these insights clear." It's the same reason why Tony Robbins always talks about he doesn't want people dabbling he wants you to go through immersion. Where you're going through a four day event, or you're reading a book or you're doing these things, because immersion, you start connecting these dots you don't see normally. All I can say is that the process of writing a book for me, I started seeing patterns and things line up that I've never seen it in any other situation, even publishing daily. There's something about it where these patterns, these ideas, and these things start showing up. It's funny because last year I wrote the Traffic Secrets book. Man, maybe two years ago. Dang it. Anyway, whenever it was. Then after I got done, I went back and I rewrote the Expert Secrets and the Dotcom Secrets book for our hardbound versions, you know? It was interesting, as I was going through, I'm reading the Expert Secrets book, and I'm doing the editing, I'm just like, "Where did some of this stuff come from?" Not that I'm like patting myself on the back. Some of this stuff's amazing. I don't know where I... Like, how did I come up with this? I don't remember the process. It's going back to like when Steve and I were sitting there in that room in that office writing the book. It was like brainstorming and researching and thinking and looking at patterns. And all of a sudden it's like, because I'm deep in this like treasure hunt trying to find the piece of gold, it's like the pattern shows up and it's like, Oh my gosh, here it is. It's like this gift is just handed to you on a silver platter. I feel like that's happening right now in this book, because I'm going through it, I'm discovering and finding these things I never have seen before, which is just so interesting. It comes down to too, honestly, it is immersion. It's immersion in different areas. It's immersion in your learning and immersion in your content creation, immersion in your product development. If you're creating a course, if you dive deep into it, start doing this stuff, again, hopefully, if you look deep, if you start trying to figure and really learn the stuff, these insights will start popping out. If you're going and you're studying somebody, instead of just like, "Oh, I'm going to listen to a podcast once a week." Or, "I'm going to go read a chapter every few days." But you go to true immersion where you're like, "Okay, I'm going to binge read this book in a day." Or, "I'm going to go to a three-day event or five-day event or whatever." But you started going through immersion. You start seeing things in a different ... I don't know how to explain it more than these patterns start appearing that you don't see when it's disjointed. I had something similar happen. This is kind of more on a spiritual side, but, a lot of you guys know I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Some people nickname us the Mormons. Typically, what I would do, is read a chapter in my scriptures every single day, right? Which is awesome. You get different insights that are really, really useful and helpful. Then one day I bought a first edition Book of Mormon, which is super rare and kind of a cool special thing for me. So I bought this book and I was like, I want read this entire book. And there's a guy, back in the days, and he's Parley P. Pratt and he read the entire Book of Mormon in a day, back in the 1800s or something. So I found out when his birthday was, and I took the day off of work and I'm going to read this entire book in a day. It's a big book and it's not light reading. And I spent 18 hours reading and I got about halfway through. So I don't know how that dude did it in a day. But, anyway, regardless, I spent 18 hours reading this book and I got super deep into it. It was very similar. I had these breakthroughs and these patterns, these things showing up that I'd never seen before. Because I had seen things like in isolation, of a chapter, a verse or whatever, but when you read it, it's 300 pages at once, you start seeing the patterns starting to appear. Anyway, I wanted to share with you because I want you thinking about that. Like you're learning, your creation, is doing it in a state of immersion because these patterns start showing up. So anyway, I hope it helps. I just got home from the dentist. I'm going to go have some food real quick and head in the office and get back to writing. So with that said, I want to challenge you guys. Immersion. Either studying or learning or creating or whatever, block out time and go deep and start looking at the patterns and the things that appear because it's a gift. It's amazing. You'll find things you weren't expecting. It's pretty, pretty special. So with that said, appreciate you guys. Have an amazing day and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:00:00 -0000 The Secret of Immersion full 397 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to find the secret things you didn’t even know you were looking for. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing... How to find the secret things you didn’t even know you were looking for. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you guys are pumped and excited for today, because I am. The sun's up, it's beautiful. I just got out of the dentist and wanted to hang out with my friends. All right everybody. I hope that you guys are all been amazing. I'm working on so many fun things right now that I'm not even sure what to share first or second or third or where to go or what to do. But I wanted to just jump in today because I had an interesting conversation yesterday with Mr. Steve Larson, who's one of my favorite people, not only inside the ClickFunnels community, but just in the world. He's super cool. And I appreciate, I was hanging out with him, talking to him and it's been fun. Those who don't know Steve, he came into my world as my funnel builder for a couple of years and then went off on his own. It's been fun watching him build his movement and his tribe. But he was there, like when I was writing the Expert Secrets book. It's fun because when I decided to take on a project, to start writing, and you go through this phase of brainstorming and searching and researching and finding things out and discovery and like, so he was there during the whole process. Literally sitting next to me during most of it, which was pretty cool. I don't know. A pretty cool opportunity. He tells me stories about a lot. Like, remember when we were doing that and you were coming up with this and like... It's kind of fun because yesterday he messaged me and he's like, "Hey, I'm looking for a coach in this area of my life, who would you recommend? Like, what should I do?" And I kind of stopped for a second. And I was like, "You know what? There's a lot of good people. And I was recommending a few people and stuff like that. But I came back and I was like, "You know what?" Me and him have talked about this a lot, but I was like, "Honestly, the thing that's going to get your learning and your understanding of the next level more than anything is probably not the next coach, as much as you sitting down and actually writing a book. This is not a podcast about writing a book. I did one of those recently, but I wanted to talk about this because there's so many people that want to become an expert. They want to write a book. They want to make courses. They want to make podcasts. Things like that, right? We talk about the value and the importance of publishing. If you've been around me for any amount of time, you know I'm such a big believer in everybody needs to be publishing daily. Like, what are you publishing? Like pick a podcast and do it daily, or write a blog post daily, or do YouTube or Facebook live. It doesn't even matter. The goal though, is as you start doing that, you start finding your voice, right? If you've read the Expert Secrets book, I talk about actually... excuse me, the Traffic Secrets book. I talk about the two reasons why you need to publish daily. It's because number one, it's going to help you to find your voice. Number two, it's going to help your audience to find you. I'm a big believer in that, but there's something magical about actually writing a book. That's been interesting. I'm writing my fourth book right now, and I'm not telling details about it yet, but I'm writing it and it's just been so fun. I kind of forgot about this process. Like, as you start writing... because you to take this concept and break it down. How do you make it simple? How do you make it interesting? What are the case studies and the use cases? Like have other people talked about this already? I want to make sure I'm not saying the same thing other people have said. You get in this like research phase. You're studying and you're learning and trying to figure things out. And by going through that process, it's insane the insights you start getting. I almost feel like God, or whoever you want to believe, I obviously believe it's God, but he's like, "If you're willing to go on this journey, I'm going to start making these insights clear." It's the same reason why Tony Robbins always talks about he doesn't want people dabbling he wants you to go through immersion. Where you're going through a four day event, or you're reading a book or you're doing these things, because immersion, you start connecting these dots you don't see normally. All I can say is that the process of writing a book for me, I started seeing patterns and things line up that I've never seen it in any other situation, even publishing daily. There's something about it where these patterns, these ideas, and these things start showing up. It's funny because last year I wrote the Traffic Secrets book. Man, maybe two years ago. Dang it. Anyway, whenever it was. Then after I got done, I went back and I rewrote the Expert Secrets and the Dotcom Secrets book for our hardbound versions, you know? It was interesting, as I was going through, I'm reading the Expert Secrets book, and I'm doing the editing, I'm just like, "Where did some of this stuff come from?" Not that I'm like patting myself on the back. Some of this stuff's amazing. I don't know where I... Like, how did I come up with this? I don't remember the process. It's going back to like when Steve and I were sitting there in that room in that office writing the book. It was like brainstorming and researching and thinking and looking at patterns. And all of a sudden it's like, because I'm deep in this like treasure hunt trying to find the piece of gold, it's like the pattern shows up and it's like, Oh my gosh, here it is. It's like this gift is just handed to you on a silver platter. I feel like that's happening right now in this book, because I'm going through it, I'm discovering and finding these things I never have seen before, which is just so interesting. It comes down to too, honestly, it is immersion. It's immersion in different areas. It's immersion in your learning and immersion in your content creation, immersion in your product development. If you're creating a course, if you dive deep into it, start doing this stuff, again, hopefully, if you look deep, if you start trying to figure and really learn the stuff, these insights will start popping out. If you're going and you're studying somebody, instead of just like, "Oh, I'm going to listen to a podcast once a week." Or, "I'm going to go read a chapter every few days." But you go to true immersion where you're like, "Okay, I'm going to binge read this book in a day." Or, "I'm going to go to a three-day event or five-day event or whatever." But you started going through immersion. You start seeing things in a different ... I don't know how to explain it more than these patterns start appearing that you don't see when it's disjointed. I had something similar happen. This is kind of more on a spiritual side, but, a lot of you guys know I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Some people nickname us the Mormons. Typically, what I would do, is read a chapter in my scriptures every single day, right? Which is awesome. You get different insights that are really, really useful and helpful. Then one day I bought a first edition Book of Mormon, which is super rare and kind of a cool special thing for me. So I bought this book and I was like, I want read this entire book. And there's a guy, back in the days, and he's Parley P. Pratt and he read the entire Book of Mormon in a day, back in the 1800s or something. So I found out when his birthday was, and I took the day off of work and I'm going to read this entire book in a day. It's a big book and it's not light reading. And I spent 18 hours reading and I got about halfway through. So I don't know how that dude did it in a day. But, anyway, regardless, I spent 18 hours reading this book and I got super deep into it. It was very similar. I had these breakthroughs and these patterns, these things showing up that I'd never seen before. Because I had seen things like in isolation, of a chapter, a verse or whatever, but when you read it, it's 300 pages at once, you start seeing the patterns starting to appear. Anyway, I wanted to share with you because I want you thinking about that. Like you're learning, your creation, is doing it in a state of immersion because these patterns start showing up. So anyway, I hope it helps. I just got home from the dentist. I'm going to go have some food real quick and head in the office and get back to writing. So with that said, I want to challenge you guys. Immersion. Either studying or learning or creating or whatever, block out time and go deep and start looking at the patterns and the things that appear because it's a gift. It's amazing. You'll find things you weren't expecting. It's pretty, pretty special. So with that said, appreciate you guys. Have an amazing day and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to find the secret things you didn’t even know you were looking for.

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What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you guys are pumped and excited for today, because I am. The sun's up, it's beautiful. I just got out of the dentist and wanted to hang out with my friends.

All right everybody. I hope that you guys are all been amazing. I'm working on so many fun things right now that I'm not even sure what to share first or second or third or where to go or what to do. But I wanted to just jump in today because I had an interesting conversation yesterday with Mr. Steve Larson, who's one of my favorite people, not only inside the ClickFunnels community, but just in the world. He's super cool. And I appreciate, I was hanging out with him, talking to him and it's been fun.

Those who don't know Steve, he came into my world as my funnel builder for a couple of years and then went off on his own. It's been fun watching him build his movement and his tribe. But he was there, like when I was writing the Expert Secrets book. It's fun because when I decided to take on a project, to start writing, and you go through this phase of brainstorming and searching and researching and finding things out and discovery and like, so he was there during the whole process. Literally sitting next to me during most of it, which was pretty cool. I don't know. A pretty cool opportunity. He tells me stories about a lot. Like, remember when we were doing that and you were coming up with this and like... It's kind of fun because yesterday he messaged me and he's like, "Hey, I'm looking for a coach in this area of my life, who would you recommend? Like, what should I do?"

And I kind of stopped for a second. And I was like, "You know what? There's a lot of good people. And I was recommending a few people and stuff like that. But I came back and I was like, "You know what?" Me and him have talked about this a lot, but I was like, "Honestly, the thing that's going to get your learning and your understanding of the next level more than anything is probably not the next coach, as much as you sitting down and actually writing a book.

This is not a podcast about writing a book. I did one of those recently, but I wanted to talk about this because there's so many people that want to become an expert. They want to write a book. They want to make courses. They want to make podcasts. Things like that, right? We talk about the value and the importance of publishing. If you've been around me for any amount of time, you know I'm such a big believer in everybody needs to be publishing daily. Like, what are you publishing? Like pick a podcast and do it daily, or write a blog post daily, or do YouTube or Facebook live. It doesn't even matter. The goal though, is as you start doing that, you start finding your voice, right?

If you've read the Expert Secrets book, I talk about actually... excuse me, the Traffic Secrets book. I talk about the two reasons why you need to publish daily. It's because number one, it's going to help you to find your voice. Number two, it's going to help your audience to find you. I'm a big believer in that, but there's something magical about actually writing a book. That's been interesting.

I'm writing my fourth book right now, and I'm not telling details about it yet, but I'm writing it and it's just been so fun. I kind of forgot about this process. Like, as you start writing... because you to take this concept and break it down. How do you make it simple? How do you make it interesting? What are the case studies and the use cases? Like have other people talked about this already? I want to make sure I'm not saying the same thing other people have said.

You get in this like research phase. You're studying and you're learning and trying to figure things out. And by going through that process, it's insane the insights you start getting. I almost feel like God, or whoever you want to believe, I obviously believe it's God, but he's like, "If you're willing to go on this journey, I'm going to start making these insights clear."

It's the same reason why Tony Robbins always talks about he doesn't want people dabbling he wants you to go through immersion. Where you're going through a four day event, or you're reading a book or you're doing these things, because immersion, you start connecting these dots you don't see normally. All I can say is that the process of writing a book for me, I started seeing patterns and things line up that I've never seen it in any other situation, even publishing daily.

There's something about it where these patterns, these ideas, and these things start showing up. It's funny because last year I wrote the Traffic Secrets book. Man, maybe two years ago. Dang it. Anyway, whenever it was. Then after I got done, I went back and I rewrote the Expert Secrets and the Dotcom Secrets book for our hardbound versions, you know?

It was interesting, as I was going through, I'm reading the Expert Secrets book, and I'm doing the editing, I'm just like, "Where did some of this stuff come from?" Not that I'm like patting myself on the back. Some of this stuff's amazing. I don't know where I... Like, how did I come up with this? I don't remember the process. It's going back to like when Steve and I were sitting there in that room in that office writing the book. It was like brainstorming and researching and thinking and looking at patterns. And all of a sudden it's like, because I'm deep in this like treasure hunt trying to find the piece of gold, it's like the pattern shows up and it's like, Oh my gosh, here it is. It's like this gift is just handed to you on a silver platter. I feel like that's happening right now in this book, because I'm going through it, I'm discovering and finding these things I never have seen before, which is just so interesting.

It comes down to too, honestly, it is immersion. It's immersion in different areas. It's immersion in your learning and immersion in your content creation, immersion in your product development. If you're creating a course, if you dive deep into it, start doing this stuff, again, hopefully, if you look deep, if you start trying to figure and really learn the stuff, these insights will start popping out.

If you're going and you're studying somebody, instead of just like, "Oh, I'm going to listen to a podcast once a week." Or, "I'm going to go read a chapter every few days." But you go to true immersion where you're like, "Okay, I'm going to binge read this book in a day." Or, "I'm going to go to a three-day event or five-day event or whatever." But you started going through immersion. You start seeing things in a different ... I don't know how to explain it more than these patterns start appearing that you don't see when it's disjointed.

I had something similar happen. This is kind of more on a spiritual side, but, a lot of you guys know I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Some people nickname us the Mormons. Typically, what I would do, is read a chapter in my scriptures every single day, right? Which is awesome. You get different insights that are really, really useful and helpful. Then one day I bought a first edition Book of Mormon, which is super rare and kind of a cool special thing for me. So I bought this book and I was like, I want read this entire book.

And there's a guy, back in the days, and he's Parley P. Pratt and he read the entire Book of Mormon in a day, back in the 1800s or something. So I found out when his birthday was, and I took the day off of work and I'm going to read this entire book in a day. It's a big book and it's not light reading. And I spent 18 hours reading and I got about halfway through. So I don't know how that dude did it in a day.

But, anyway, regardless, I spent 18 hours reading this book and I got super deep into it. It was very similar. I had these breakthroughs and these patterns, these things showing up that I'd never seen before. Because I had seen things like in isolation, of a chapter, a verse or whatever, but when you read it, it's 300 pages at once, you start seeing the patterns starting to appear.

Anyway, I wanted to share with you because I want you thinking about that. Like you're learning, your creation, is doing it in a state of immersion because these patterns start showing up. So anyway, I hope it helps. I just got home from the dentist. I'm going to go have some food real quick and head in the office and get back to writing.

So with that said, I want to challenge you guys. Immersion. Either studying or learning or creating or whatever, block out time and go deep and start looking at the patterns and the things that appear because it's a gift. It's amazing. You'll find things you weren't expecting. It's pretty, pretty special. So with that said, appreciate you guys. Have an amazing day and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 588 no A Simple Language Hack That'll Change Your Life Forever https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-simple-language-hack-thatll-change-your-life-forever Something my wife and I have been testing that has changed our relationship, and will change yours too. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I got a really cool hack for your language. It's going to change your entire life. All right. So this one's simple. This is probably four years or five years ago, back in the very beginning of my podcasting days, back before Marketing Secrets, back when it was the Marketing in Your Car podcast, for my OGs. You guys remember that? I shared something that I was doing with my kids that was really fun. And I talked about how, when you meet most people, when you go to the grocery store or something like that, "Hey, how's it going?" They're like "Good." Or you see someone at the airport, "Hey, how's it going?" "Good." You start traveling, "How are you doing today?" "Good." Everybody's like, "Good, good." And good is boring. Good is the enemy to great, right? And so I started teaching my kids. I was like, "Hey, when somebody asks you, 'How are you doing?' Instead of saying 'Good,' say, 'I'm awesome.'" I think just try that. So my kids started doing it, I started doing it. I remember, I had to be at the airport at six in the morning, and the cashier when you're buying your gum and your water's like, "How are you doing today?" Because they have to ask that. Ad you're like, "Doing awesome." And they're like, "Oh, I wasn't expecting that." And it just shifts the person you're talking to every single time. It was like so simple, so dumb, but for the last four or five years, and I'm not perfect at this, but I always try. When someone asks how I'm doing, I never say "Good." All right? Instead I say, "I'm doing awesome." And it just kind of catches them. Even if I'm not doing good. I'm like, "Oh, I'm doing awesome." And then they're like, "Oh." and it shifts them. And it shifts you. So that's a little language hack. Right? So there's little things like that, that I'm always looking for, that are super dumb and super easy. And I found one the other day. Someone posted on Instagram, I'm not sure who it was. I think it was Lisa Bilyeu, but I'm not positive. So I'm going to give her credit, but it may not have been. But what she said, I think, or whoever it was, I think it's her. But the person who said it said, "Next time, instead of saying, 'I'm sorry,' shift it to, 'Thank you.'" And I was like, what? And then she gave an example. She said, for example, let's say you're running late and you run out to the car. Instead of saying, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm late," instead say, "Hey, thank you so much for waiting for me." Little shift. Now I want to show you how huge this actually is. Okay? When you say, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry." What does that do to you? It brings guilt upon you, then the person feels badly. "Oh, don't feel guilty. No, it's totally fine, la la la." And it shifts this whole conversation, where everything's based on guilt and remorse and feeling bad about something. And it just ruins the whole thing. Where you shift it to say, "Oh my gosh, thank you so much for waiting for me," suddenly the person's like, "Oh, you're welcome." And you just gave gratitude to that person. That person received gratitude. Like, "Oh, no worries. It's totally cool." And all of a sudden, it shifts the entire dynamic, the feeling, the energy, everything shifts after that. Now this has been a fun one for me because my amazing wife who I love so much, she definitely... Guilt drives her a lot of times. And so she says, "I'm sorry," everything, over and over and over again. And so I've been playing this with her just to see what happens. And so she had to leave for a couple of days and I had to run the kids and everything, and it was crazy, hectic, and stressful, and hard. But as her husband and as the man, I'm like owning it. Right? I'm doing it. I'm doing all the things. I'm doing the hard work. And I'm feeling really, really good about it. And she called me, she was like, "Oh, I'm so sorry that you're doing all this." And I'm like, "Don't feel sorry. I don't want you to feel sorry for me. I'm freaking stepping up. I'm your man. I want you to be thankful for this." And so I told her, I said, "Hey, instead of saying, sorry, say thank you." That makes me feel better about it. I don't want to feel like, man, like I'm this stranger. Like she feels sorry, and now there's guilt. She feels guilty, then I feel guilty that she feels guilty. It just ruins the whole experience, versus her saying, "Thank you." And so for the last week and a half, two weeks, she's been doing this. Instead of every time she's slips and catches yourself like, "Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh wait, thank you so much for doing that for me. Oh, thank you for taking care of the kids. Thank you for stepping up. Thank you for staying late. Thank you for coming home early. Thank you for..." And just shifting it from "I'm sorry," to "Thank you." And I cannot tell you the shift in my energy and her energy and the experience together. It is night and day. For me, as the receiver of that, has been amazing. And so I want to share that little hack with you because I promise you, for some of you guys, this will change your life. This will change your relationships. Don't say, "I'm sorry," anymore. Unless you do something stupid, go say sorry. You should be apologizing, but for every situation that's like, you're late, you're on time, someone's doing a favor for you, whatever. Shift it from "I'm sorry," to "Thank you." And that little tiny shift, as little as it seems, it changes the energy of the moment, changes the person's attitude, changes your attitude, makes them feel gratitude, it makes you feel gratitude. It makes them feel gratitude and everything good will come from that. And so, anyway, I wanted to share it with you guys today because it's exciting for me. And hopefully it'll be an exciting tool for you as well. So that said, you got two tools now. Number one, "How are you doing today?" "Doing awesome." Number two, "Oh, thank you so much for waiting for me. I appreciate that." Those two little shifts will change everything. All right. Have fun with them. Try it out. Let me know how it goes. I appreciate you all. Thank you guys for listening. Did you notice that? I said, "Thank you." If I had said, "I'm so sorry I wasted your time today. I'm so sorry that you had to take four minutes to listen to this today." It would have been different, right? So thank you. Thank you for listening. I appreciate you taking the time today. Hopefully gave you value. You guys give me value by listening and I'm grateful for that. Anyway, that said, appreciate you guys. Hope you enjoy this episode and we'll talk to you guys all soon. All right. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:00:00 -0000 A Simple Language Hack That'll Change Your Life Forever full 396 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Something my wife and I have been testing that has changed our relationship, and will change yours too. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the... Something my wife and I have been testing that has changed our relationship, and will change yours too. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I got a really cool hack for your language. It's going to change your entire life. All right. So this one's simple. This is probably four years or five years ago, back in the very beginning of my podcasting days, back before Marketing Secrets, back when it was the Marketing in Your Car podcast, for my OGs. You guys remember that? I shared something that I was doing with my kids that was really fun. And I talked about how, when you meet most people, when you go to the grocery store or something like that, "Hey, how's it going?" They're like "Good." Or you see someone at the airport, "Hey, how's it going?" "Good." You start traveling, "How are you doing today?" "Good." Everybody's like, "Good, good." And good is boring. Good is the enemy to great, right? And so I started teaching my kids. I was like, "Hey, when somebody asks you, 'How are you doing?' Instead of saying 'Good,' say, 'I'm awesome.'" I think just try that. So my kids started doing it, I started doing it. I remember, I had to be at the airport at six in the morning, and the cashier when you're buying your gum and your water's like, "How are you doing today?" Because they have to ask that. Ad you're like, "Doing awesome." And they're like, "Oh, I wasn't expecting that." And it just shifts the person you're talking to every single time. It was like so simple, so dumb, but for the last four or five years, and I'm not perfect at this, but I always try. When someone asks how I'm doing, I never say "Good." All right? Instead I say, "I'm doing awesome." And it just kind of catches them. Even if I'm not doing good. I'm like, "Oh, I'm doing awesome." And then they're like, "Oh." and it shifts them. And it shifts you. So that's a little language hack. Right? So there's little things like that, that I'm always looking for, that are super dumb and super easy. And I found one the other day. Someone posted on Instagram, I'm not sure who it was. I think it was Lisa Bilyeu, but I'm not positive. So I'm going to give her credit, but it may not have been. But what she said, I think, or whoever it was, I think it's her. But the person who said it said, "Next time, instead of saying, 'I'm sorry,' shift it to, 'Thank you.'" And I was like, what? And then she gave an example. She said, for example, let's say you're running late and you run out to the car. Instead of saying, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm late," instead say, "Hey, thank you so much for waiting for me." Little shift. Now I want to show you how huge this actually is. Okay? When you say, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry." What does that do to you? It brings guilt upon you, then the person feels badly. "Oh, don't feel guilty. No, it's totally fine, la la la." And it shifts this whole conversation, where everything's based on guilt and remorse and feeling bad about something. And it just ruins the whole thing. Where you shift it to say, "Oh my gosh, thank you so much for waiting for me," suddenly the person's like, "Oh, you're welcome." And you just gave gratitude to that person. That person received gratitude. Like, "Oh, no worries. It's totally cool." And all of a sudden, it shifts the entire dynamic, the feeling, the energy, everything shifts after that. Now this has been a fun one for me because my amazing wife who I love so much, she definitely... Guilt drives her a lot of times. And so she says, "I'm sorry," everything, over and over and over again. And so I've been playing this with her just to see what happens. And so she had to leave for a couple of days and I had to run the kids and everything, and it was crazy, hectic, and stressful, and hard. But as her husband and as the man, I'm like owning it. Right? I'm doing it. I'm doing all the things. I'm doing the hard work. And I'm feeling really, really good about it. And she called me, she was like, "Oh, I'm so sorry that you're doing all this." And I'm like, "Don't feel sorry. I don't want you to feel sorry for me. I'm freaking stepping up. I'm your man. I want you to be thankful for this." And so I told her, I said, "Hey, instead of saying, sorry, say thank you." That makes me feel better about it. I don't want to feel like, man, like I'm this stranger. Like she feels sorry, and now there's guilt. She feels guilty, then I feel guilty that she feels guilty. It just ruins the whole experience, versus her saying, "Thank you." And so for the last week and a half, two weeks, she's been doing this. Instead of every time she's slips and catches yourself like, "Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh wait, thank you so much for doing that for me. Oh, thank you for taking care of the kids. Thank you for stepping up. Thank you for staying late. Thank you for coming home early. Thank you for..." And just shifting it from "I'm sorry," to "Thank you." And I cannot tell you the shift in my energy and her energy and the experience together. It is night and day. For me, as the receiver of that, has been amazing. And so I want to share that little hack with you because I promise you, for some of you guys, this will change your life. This will change your relationships. Don't say, "I'm sorry," anymore. Unless you do something stupid, go say sorry. You should be apologizing, but for every situation that's like, you're late, you're on time, someone's doing a favor for you, whatever. Shift it from "I'm sorry," to "Thank you." And that little tiny shift, as little as it seems, it changes the energy of the moment, changes the person's attitude, changes your attitude, makes them feel gratitude, it makes you feel gratitude. It makes them feel gratitude and everything good will come from that. And so, anyway, I wanted to share it with you guys today because it's exciting for me. And hopefully it'll be an exciting tool for you as well. So that said, you got two tools now. Number one, "How are you doing today?" "Doing awesome." Number two, "Oh, thank you so much for waiting for me. I appreciate that." Those two little shifts will change everything. All right. Have fun with them. Try it out. Let me know how it goes. I appreciate you all. Thank you guys for listening. Did you notice that? I said, "Thank you." If I had said, "I'm so sorry I wasted your time today. I'm so sorry that you had to take four minutes to listen to this today." It would have been different, right? So thank you. Thank you for listening. I appreciate you taking the time today. Hopefully gave you value. You guys give me value by listening and I'm grateful for that. Anyway, that said, appreciate you guys. Hope you enjoy this episode and we'll talk to you guys all soon. All right. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. 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Hey everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I got a really cool hack for your language. It's going to change your entire life. All right. So this one's simple. This is probably four years or five years ago, back in the very beginning of my podcasting days, back before Marketing Secrets, back when it was the Marketing in Your Car podcast, for my OGs. You guys remember that?

I shared something that I was doing with my kids that was really fun. And I talked about how, when you meet most people, when you go to the grocery store or something like that, "Hey, how's it going?" They're like "Good." Or you see someone at the airport, "Hey, how's it going?" "Good." You start traveling, "How are you doing today?" "Good." Everybody's like, "Good, good."

And good is boring. Good is the enemy to great, right? And so I started teaching my kids. I was like, "Hey, when somebody asks you, 'How are you doing?' Instead of saying 'Good,' say, 'I'm awesome.'" I think just try that. So my kids started doing it, I started doing it. I remember, I had to be at the airport at six in the morning, and the cashier when you're buying your gum and your water's like, "How are you doing today?" Because they have to ask that. Ad you're like, "Doing awesome." And they're like, "Oh, I wasn't expecting that." And it just shifts the person you're talking to every single time.

It was like so simple, so dumb, but for the last four or five years, and I'm not perfect at this, but I always try. When someone asks how I'm doing, I never say "Good." All right? Instead I say, "I'm doing awesome." And it just kind of catches them. Even if I'm not doing good. I'm like, "Oh, I'm doing awesome." And then they're like, "Oh." and it shifts them. And it shifts you.

So that's a little language hack. Right? So there's little things like that, that I'm always looking for, that are super dumb and super easy. And I found one the other day. Someone posted on Instagram, I'm not sure who it was. I think it was Lisa Bilyeu, but I'm not positive. So I'm going to give her credit, but it may not have been. But what she said, I think, or whoever it was, I think it's her. But the person who said it said, "Next time, instead of saying, 'I'm sorry,' shift it to, 'Thank you.'" And I was like, what? And then she gave an example.

She said, for example, let's say you're running late and you run out to the car. Instead of saying, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm late," instead say, "Hey, thank you so much for waiting for me." Little shift. Now I want to show you how huge this actually is. Okay? When you say, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry." What does that do to you? It brings guilt upon you, then the person feels badly. "Oh, don't feel guilty. No, it's totally fine, la la la." And it shifts this whole conversation, where everything's based on guilt and remorse and feeling bad about something. And it just ruins the whole thing. Where you shift it to say, "Oh my gosh, thank you so much for waiting for me," suddenly the person's like, "Oh, you're welcome."

And you just gave gratitude to that person. That person received gratitude. Like, "Oh, no worries. It's totally cool." And all of a sudden, it shifts the entire dynamic, the feeling, the energy, everything shifts after that.

Now this has been a fun one for me because my amazing wife who I love so much, she definitely... Guilt drives her a lot of times. And so she says, "I'm sorry," everything, over and over and over again. And so I've been playing this with her just to see what happens. And so she had to leave for a couple of days and I had to run the kids and everything, and it was crazy, hectic, and stressful, and hard. But as her husband and as the man, I'm like owning it. Right? I'm doing it. I'm doing all the things. I'm doing the hard work. And I'm feeling really, really good about it.

And she called me, she was like, "Oh, I'm so sorry that you're doing all this." And I'm like, "Don't feel sorry. I don't want you to feel sorry for me. I'm freaking stepping up. I'm your man. I want you to be thankful for this." And so I told her, I said, "Hey, instead of saying, sorry, say thank you." That makes me feel better about it. I don't want to feel like, man, like I'm this stranger. Like she feels sorry, and now there's guilt. She feels guilty, then I feel guilty that she feels guilty. It just ruins the whole experience, versus her saying, "Thank you."

And so for the last week and a half, two weeks, she's been doing this. Instead of every time she's slips and catches yourself like, "Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh wait, thank you so much for doing that for me. Oh, thank you for taking care of the kids. Thank you for stepping up. Thank you for staying late. Thank you for coming home early. Thank you for..." And just shifting it from "I'm sorry," to "Thank you."

And I cannot tell you the shift in my energy and her energy and the experience together. It is night and day. For me, as the receiver of that, has been amazing. And so I want to share that little hack with you because I promise you, for some of you guys, this will change your life. This will change your relationships. Don't say, "I'm sorry," anymore. Unless you do something stupid, go say sorry. You should be apologizing, but for every situation that's like, you're late, you're on time, someone's doing a favor for you, whatever. Shift it from "I'm sorry," to "Thank you."

And that little tiny shift, as little as it seems, it changes the energy of the moment, changes the person's attitude, changes your attitude, makes them feel gratitude, it makes you feel gratitude. It makes them feel gratitude and everything good will come from that. And so, anyway, I wanted to share it with you guys today because it's exciting for me. And hopefully it'll be an exciting tool for you as well.

So that said, you got two tools now. Number one, "How are you doing today?" "Doing awesome." Number two, "Oh, thank you so much for waiting for me. I appreciate that." Those two little shifts will change everything. All right. Have fun with them. Try it out. Let me know how it goes. I appreciate you all. Thank you guys for listening.

Did you notice that? I said, "Thank you." If I had said, "I'm so sorry I wasted your time today. I'm so sorry that you had to take four minutes to listen to this today." It would have been different, right? So thank you. Thank you for listening. I appreciate you taking the time today. Hopefully gave you value. You guys give me value by listening and I'm grateful for that. Anyway, that said, appreciate you guys. Hope you enjoy this episode and we'll talk to you guys all soon. All right. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 440 no Powerful Lesson From Tony: The Meaning Maker https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/powerful-lesson-from-tony-the-meaning-maker If you're struggling with difficult times, as most of us are; this is one tool I learned from Tony that's been helping me a ton. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I want to go a little Tony Robbins on you if you're okay with that. We've been dealing with some hard things and something I learned from Tony about, man, eight or nine years ago has helped me and I want to share with you guys as well. All right. So I'm not going to go to specifics, but I think everybody, especially in the last year, has gone through hard things, challenges, things that are frustrating. Things don't make sense. Things make you angry, things that make you sad. And it's hard. Anyway, I think for the most part, most of the stuff I talk about is the fun stuff and the exciting things. And I think that maybe the positives and the negatives of social media and all the things we do is that usually we share a highlight reel, which hopefully inspires people and things like that. But there's also the other side we don't talk about as often, but it's there. And we've had a lot of, I think like everybody, a lot of ups and downs, especially over the last 12 months or so, but we recently had one that's been the toughest by far. Again, I'm not going to talk about the details at all, but as my family, I've been kind of navigating this and going through it. The one thing that keeps coming back to me is it's interesting. It's this thing that I learned from Tony Robbins very first time I went to UPW. So I didn't know how long ago it was. It was over 10, maybe 12, probably 12 years ago. Dang. Anyway, so that the time I was at UPW was actually, it was right after Jim Rowan had just passed away, which was interesting. And Jim Rowan was Tony Robbins' first mentor and he passed away and the event was like three days later. And so we're at this event and of course, Tony starts talking about his mentor who just passed away. And he talks about how obviously how sad it was for them. And then he started talking about this concept and he expounded on it at other events I went to. He talked about the meaning that we attach to things. And it was interesting because so many of us experienced the same things, right. But the meaning that we attach to things is how we end up feeling and how we cope with things. Right? And so, for example, he said, when Jim Rowan first passed away, his first year, the first initial news and your mind automatically attaches a meaning to it, right? Here's the news, boom, here's the meaning and the whatever meaning is attached to it, that's how you feel about situations. He said, by default, the meaning he got was like, "Oh my gosh, my mentor died. This is so sad. Like I wish I could have talked to him. I wish..." And all these things. Right. And this was meaning is that this thing is so sad and so hard. And it's because of it, it was hard. He's like, for the first couple of days, I struggled, I was really struggling, but he's like, as I stopped and I was able to sit back, I started noticing like, what was the meaning that I put to this? Like the, his death and like the meeting was man, I wasn't ready for him to go. You know, it was too early. all these things like, that was the meeting that my, that my brain by default attaches. And because I was able to step away and become conscious of meaning that attached. I was able to think about well, what meaning would I like to attach to this event? I can change the meaning. And so he sat back and he said, "I'm going to change the meaning." And instead of saying, "This is such a horrible thing. I'm like going to change the meaning. It means like, man, I'm so grateful for the time I had with him. I'm so grateful things I learned from him, such an amazing man." And he lived such a great life, like how amazing it was. And so he shifted the meeting. "When I shifted the meaning, like the feeling was different. And I went from being sad to being like, man, this is such a, I was so grateful for this person." And again this is just a tiny little shift, but so powerful. And as I've been experiencing dealing with things over the last little while, I've been trying to be more conscious of what things in my brain... What's the meaning that my brain attaches by default when an experience happens. And typically when it's a sad or a tragic or a hard experience, your brain defaults to like the worst thing, right. Boom, with slapping that label on, slapping that meaning. And if you can learn ow, to step back from the initial, what your brain quickly labels something on, you can shift things, right? Like for example, someone walks up to you and they slap you in the face. Like the meeting is going to attach like this person just slapped me. I'm going to slap them back and boom. And all of a sudden, like the scuffle happens, right. But if this is a slap in the face, you stop, you like, what's the meaning? Why did they do that? What's the purpose of being like, "Oh my gosh, the person slapped me because they thought that... Whatever." And it's like, you come back. No, no, wait, let me explain and you can diffuse the situation. You can change it by shifting the meaning that you're attaching to it. And something that Tony talked about later, it was a date with destiny, he talked about becoming a master meaning maker. So what's the meaning you're going to attach, like making the meaning. And so you start dissociating yourself from like the thing that your brain immediately attaches and saying, "Okay, experience happens. It's stopping." What's the meaning that you choose to apply to this situation, this event that just happened. Right? And now you apply different meaning. And it's like, "Oh." And I know for me, like man, especially social media and all social media triggers all of us, right. Where you see something, you see somebody post something and all the triggers start happening and you start firing your brain. You want to like, duh, unleash your wrath upon them in the comments. And what I've been trying to do really quickly is stop and looking and saying, "Okay, I'm going to assume that this person has really good intentions when they're posting. I may not agree with it but I do agree that most people do things out of good intentions, even if I feel they're misguided or whatever, but they have good intentions." Right? I believe politically, people on the left and the right and in the middle and all sorts of all that they say, everyone's acting out of good intentions. They're all doing what they think is right. Even though I think some people are completely wrong, it doesn't matter. They think I'm completely wrong. Right. And so it's like when they post something, I have the meaning of like, "Oh, they're evil, they're bad." Like that's the initial default that has come back saying, "Wait, wait." Instead, what if I attach the meaning that person has the good intentions. And I may not agree with them, but they're doing the best based on what they think is right. Right. And then we see, it's like how people parent, how people vote, how people, all these things. And it's tough because we want to fight. We want to be right. What I've been trying to do a step back and not default comment, not default fight back, but instead come back, say, okay, the meaning attached to that person's comment, it's not that they're dumb or they're wrong or they're whatever. It's just like, that person thinks that they're doing what's best for them. They have good intentions. I love them for the fact that they're doing their best based on the knowledge they have. And it's hard. I'm going to tell you, it's hard. I'm sure all you guys struggle with that. But for me, it's what I'm trying to do for a lot of reasons. One is it's keeping my sanity on somethings. Number two, it's helping me to be happier through these hard times. Right. Something tragic and horrible happens, it's okay, there's different meanings we can attach to this. It's not fair. It's why did it have to happen? Why did we... All these things or can make man what's the blessing, what's the shift? What's the thing we can change. And so I know it's not an easy thing. This is not something that's going to be like, Oh cool. I'll just start applying different meetings by default. But I do promise you that in most situations, our brains will slap the worst possible meaning on every situation. And if we can look at that and stop and pause and become conscious of it and step back and say, "Okay, I'm going to choose a different meaning. This is the meaning I'm going to attach instead." Is that this person confused, they slapped me because they didn't know who I was. They thought I was the wrong person, or they didn't understand the situation. Let me step back instead of punching them back and escalating this thing into a blood bath, which is actually fun. I'm all for fighting, but... I'm just kidding. Instead is come back and say, "Well, okay, they attached the wrong me. That's why they did this thing. Let me try to help them understand." I didn't, and coming back, we have an argument, I wasn't trying to be rude. This is the meaning that I attach to this and this is the reason, and this is why. Anyway, I hope that helps. I'll share this with my mom this last week. So obviously there's this whole, in the COVID situation, there's all these things, the vaccines. And my mom and I have very differing opinions on the vaccine and what you should do and what you should not do. And I'm not going to get political or talk like ... It's up to everybody individually, do your own research and figure out what's right for you. Right. But my mom and I definitely have different opinions on it. And she's very strong at one side, I'm very strong in the other side. And so we had this conversation and, in a spot where I wanted to get defensive and I wanted to try to point out my point of view and, try to prove through all my facts and all the logic and reasoning I have. I'm sure she wanted to do the same thing. When she told me and I was able to understand, she's doing this based on what she thinks is best for her and her best intentions. And I have to let her. I have to respect that. That's her decisions. It's not my decisions. And if I want her to love and respect my decisions, I need to respect hers. And so it was able to turn something that had probably a conversation that would have turned heated, frustrated, and probably burned some bridges for awhile into something where it's like, "Look, I love you and respect you, and I'm going to let you do what you feel is best. I'm going to do what I feel is best. And we can still love each other, respect each other." And the meaning is not like, "Oh, this person's dumb or they're wrong." Or they're whatever you want it by default want to attach to the situation, which makes me want to come fight and, and argue and all sorts of stuff. It shifted back to like, no, instead of that, the meaning is going to attach that this is what they feel is best for them. And I love them and I want them... And maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Maybe I'm not wrong. I don't think I'm wrong, but it's their opinion. It's what they think is best for them. And so I'm going to love them and respect them for that and support them and just pray for them. And that's kind of it. So, anyway, I know this is a little different podcast episode, but I just wanted to give you guys that tool because something that's been helping me a lot, especially the last week or so. And yeah, it's just so as we're navigating these difficult times, any tools we can use help and learning about meaning and how to create your own, becoming a master of creating your own meanings, I learned from Tony a decade ago now, something that I'm using more and more, and it's been super helpful for me. So I hope that helps. Remember that your brain is going to slap a meaning on it. By default, it's going to be the worst possible one that's going to cause you to want to fight or flight or whatever that thing is. It's like your job to consciously stop and pick the meaning, pick the meaning that serves you the most, not the one that's going to cause the most turmoil in your life. And when you shift the meaning, it's just shifts the energy, it shifts the focus, and it can change your destiny. So hope it helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. If you haven't studied everything Tony's ever put out, please do it. It'll make you better. It'll make you happier. It'll make life so much more full. I promise you, it has been for me. I'm grateful for him and his teachings. And that said appreciate you guys and good luck learning how to attach your own meanings to things. Thanks again. We'll talk soon. Hey, this is Russell again and earlier today I recorded the podcast about meaning and I just been thinking a lot about that over the last little bit. And just wanted to jump back in real quick and just add a couple more thoughts just for those who may not, maybe it didn't connect with yet because I wasn't very good at giving examples. I'm thinking more about, like some examples. I think about meaning in my life that I attach. For example, when my kids do something on my attach, like, "Oh, like I'm a bad dad because of that." Or my kids are lazy or all these different things we may attach, and a lot of times we beat ourselves up or beat other people up because we're attaching these meanings to different experiences and things that are happening. When instead of saying again, "Oh, I'm a bad dad." It's like, Oh, my kids are just, they have a lot of energy or I need to, how do I better explain this to them so they understand that importance of it or whatever that thing might be. Right. It's just shifting that, that meaning away from a lot of times the blame on us or blame on other people or opinions or judgments on other people to have more love and respect and understanding that everybody's kind of trying their best. And so I just want to kind of add that in there. I was thinking also I shared the conversation a little bit with my mom and I. And it's interesting because on her side, she's sharing me her thoughts and she's so emotional because she's scared for me because of my decisions. And I'm very scared for her because of her decisions. And so we have the same underlining fear for each other. Yet, we have the opposite beliefs on the topic. And so it's tough. And it's hard when both people are trying to do the right thing. Right. And so coming back and when the meaning becomes like hey this person really loves me and they really care, and this is their choices and that's what they feel is right. And I have to respect them. And I love them for that. I'm just like, I'm hoping that they will do the same thing for me. It's just shifting those meanings. So anyway, I just want to kind of add that in there for anybody who's trying to make it more real for themselves and think about it. Think about the times in your life, when you feel guilty, I'm a bad mom, I'm a bad dad. I'm a bad boss. I'm a bad employee. I'm a bad worker. I'm, all the guilt that we take on ourselves because we all do it and shifting that meaning, it's something different. So anyway, there's my addendum to the end of the podcast. I hope that helps shed a little bit more light. Anyway. Thanks for listening. Appreciate you all and we'll talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Powerful Lesson From Tony: The Meaning Maker full 395 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you're struggling with difficult times, as most of us are; this is one tool I learned from Tony that's been helping me a ton. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This... If you're struggling with difficult times, as most of us are; this is one tool I learned from Tony that's been helping me a ton. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I want to go a little Tony Robbins on you if you're okay with that. We've been dealing with some hard things and something I learned from Tony about, man, eight or nine years ago has helped me and I want to share with you guys as well. All right. So I'm not going to go to specifics, but I think everybody, especially in the last year, has gone through hard things, challenges, things that are frustrating. Things don't make sense. Things make you angry, things that make you sad. And it's hard. Anyway, I think for the most part, most of the stuff I talk about is the fun stuff and the exciting things. And I think that maybe the positives and the negatives of social media and all the things we do is that usually we share a highlight reel, which hopefully inspires people and things like that. But there's also the other side we don't talk about as often, but it's there. And we've had a lot of, I think like everybody, a lot of ups and downs, especially over the last 12 months or so, but we recently had one that's been the toughest by far. Again, I'm not going to talk about the details at all, but as my family, I've been kind of navigating this and going through it. The one thing that keeps coming back to me is it's interesting. It's this thing that I learned from Tony Robbins very first time I went to UPW. So I didn't know how long ago it was. It was over 10, maybe 12, probably 12 years ago. Dang. Anyway, so that the time I was at UPW was actually, it was right after Jim Rowan had just passed away, which was interesting. And Jim Rowan was Tony Robbins' first mentor and he passed away and the event was like three days later. And so we're at this event and of course, Tony starts talking about his mentor who just passed away. And he talks about how obviously how sad it was for them. And then he started talking about this concept and he expounded on it at other events I went to. He talked about the meaning that we attach to things. And it was interesting because so many of us experienced the same things, right. But the meaning that we attach to things is how we end up feeling and how we cope with things. Right? And so, for example, he said, when Jim Rowan first passed away, his first year, the first initial news and your mind automatically attaches a meaning to it, right? Here's the news, boom, here's the meaning and the whatever meaning is attached to it, that's how you feel about situations. He said, by default, the meaning he got was like, "Oh my gosh, my mentor died. This is so sad. Like I wish I could have talked to him. I wish..." And all these things. Right. And this was meaning is that this thing is so sad and so hard. And it's because of it, it was hard. He's like, for the first couple of days, I struggled, I was really struggling, but he's like, as I stopped and I was able to sit back, I started noticing like, what was the meaning that I put to this? Like the, his death and like the meeting was man, I wasn't ready for him to go. You know, it was too early. all these things like, that was the meeting that my, that my brain by default attaches. And because I was able to step away and become conscious of meaning that attached. I was able to think about well, what meaning would I like to attach to this event? I can change the meaning. And so he sat back and he said, "I'm going to change the meaning." And instead of saying, "This is such a horrible thing. I'm like going to change the meaning. It means like, man, I'm so grateful for the time I had with him. I'm so grateful things I learned from him, such an amazing man." And he lived such a great life, like how amazing it was. And so he shifted the meeting. "When I shifted the meaning, like the feeling was different. And I went from being sad to being like, man, this is such a, I was so grateful for this person." And again this is just a tiny little shift, but so powerful. And as I've been experiencing dealing with things over the last little while, I've been trying to be more conscious of what things in my brain... What's the meaning that my brain attaches by default when an experience happens. And typically when it's a sad or a tragic or a hard experience, your brain defaults to like the worst thing, right. Boom, with slapping that label on, slapping that meaning. And if you can learn ow, to step back from the initial, what your brain quickly labels something on, you can shift things, right? Like for example, someone walks up to you and they slap you in the face. Like the meeting is going to attach like this person just slapped me. I'm going to slap them back and boom. And all of a sudden, like the scuffle happens, right. But if this is a slap in the face, you stop, you like, what's the meaning? Why did they do that? What's the purpose of being like, "Oh my gosh, the person slapped me because they thought that... Whatever." And it's like, you come back. No, no, wait, let me explain and you can diffuse the situation. You can change it by shifting the meaning that you're attaching to it. And something that Tony talked about later, it was a date with destiny, he talked about becoming a master meaning maker. So what's the meaning you're going to attach, like making the meaning. And so you start dissociating yourself from like the thing that your brain immediately attaches and saying, "Okay, experience happens. It's stopping." What's the meaning that you choose to apply to this situation, this event that just happened. Right? And now you apply different meaning. And it's like, "Oh." And I know for me, like man, especially social media and all social media triggers all of us, right. Where you see something, you see somebody post something and all the triggers start happening and you start firing your brain. You want to like, duh, unleash your wrath upon them in the comments. And what I've been trying to do really quickly is stop and looking and saying, "Okay, I'm going to assume that this person has really good intentions when they're posting. I may not agree with it but I do agree that most people do things out of good intentions, even if I feel they're misguided or whatever, but they have good intentions." Right? I believe politically, people on the left and the right and in the middle and all sorts of all that they say, everyone's acting out of good intentions. They're all doing what they think is right. Even though I think some people are completely wrong, it doesn't matter. They think I'm completely wrong. Right. And so it's like when they post something, I have the meaning of like, "Oh, they're evil, they're bad." Like that's the initial default that has come back saying, "Wait, wait." Instead, what if I attach the meaning that person has the good intentions. And I may not agree with them, but they're doing the best based on what they think is right. Right. And then we see, it's like how people parent, how people vote, how people, all these things. And it's tough because we want to fight. We want to be right. What I've been trying to do a step back and not default comment, not default fight back, but instead come back, say, okay, the meaning attached to that person's comment, it's not that they're dumb or they're wrong or they're whatever. It's just like, that person thinks that they're doing what's best for them. They have good intentions. I love them for the fact that they're doing their best based on the knowledge they have. And it's hard. I'm going to tell you, it's hard. I'm sure all you guys struggle with that. But for me, it's what I'm trying to do for a lot of reasons. One is it's keeping my sanity on somethings. Number two, it's helping me to be happier through these hard times. Right. Something tragic and horrible happens, it's okay, there's different meanings we can attach to this. It's not fair. It's why did it have to happen? Why did we... All these things or can make man what's the blessing, what's the shift? What's the thing we can change. And so I know it's not an easy thing. This is not something that's going to be like, Oh cool. I'll just start applying different meetings by default. But I do promise you that in most situations, our brains will slap the worst possible meaning on every situation. And if we can look at that and stop and pause and become conscious of it and step back and say, "Okay, I'm going to choose a different meaning. This is the meaning I'm going to attach instead." Is that this person confused, they slapped me because they didn't know who I was. They thought I was the wrong person, or they didn't understand the situation. Let me step back instead of punching them back and escalating this thing into a blood bath, which is actually fun. I'm all for fighting, but... I'm just kidding. Instead is come back and say, "Well, okay, they attached the wrong me. That's why they did this thing. Let me try to help them understand." I didn't, and coming back, we have an argument, I wasn't trying to be rude. This is the meaning that I attach to this and this is the reason, and this is why. Anyway, I hope that helps. I'll share this with my mom this last week. So obviously there's this whole, in the COVID situation, there's all these things, the vaccines. And my mom and I have very differing opinions on the vaccine and what you should do and what you should not do. And I'm not going to get political or talk like ... It's up to everybody individually, do your own research and figure out what's right for you. Right. But my mom and I definitely have different opinions on it. And she's very strong at one side, I'm very strong in the other side. And so we had this conversation and, in a spot where I wanted to get defensive and I wanted to try to point out my point of view and, try to prove through all my facts and all the logic and reasoning I have. I'm sure she wanted to do the same thing. When she told me and I was able to understand, she's doing this based on what she thinks is best for her and her best intentions. And I have to let her. I have to respect that. That's her decisions. It's not my decisions. And if I want her to love and respect my decisions, I need to respect hers. And so it was able to turn something that had probably a conversation that would have turned heated, frustrated, and probably burned some bridges for awhile into something where it's like, "Look, I love you and respect you, and I'm going to let you do what you feel is best. I'm going to do what I feel is best. And we can still love each other, respect each other." And the meaning is not like, "Oh, this person's dumb or they're wrong." Or they're whatever you want it by default want to attach to the situation, which makes me want to come fight and, and argue and all sorts of stuff. It shifted back to like, no, instead of that, the meaning is going to attach that this is what they feel is best for them. And I love them and I want them... And maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Maybe I'm not wrong. I don't think I'm wrong, but it's their opinion. It's what they think is best for them. And so I'm going to love them and respect them for that and support them and just pray for them. And that's kind of it. So, anyway, I know this is a little different podcast episode, but I just wanted to give you guys that tool because something that's been helping me a lot, especially the last week or so. And yeah, it's just so as we're navigating these difficult times, any tools we can use help and learning about meaning and how to create your own, becoming a master of creating your own meanings, I learned from Tony a decade ago now, something that I'm using more and more, and it's been super helpful for me. So I hope that helps. Remember that your brain is going to slap a meaning on it. By default, it's going to be the worst possible one that's going to cause you to want to fight or flight or whatever that thing is. It's like your job to consciously stop and pick the meaning, pick the meaning that serves you the most, not the one that's going to cause the most turmoil in your life. And when you shift the meaning, it's just shifts the energy, it shifts the focus, and it can change your destiny. So hope it helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. If you haven't studied everything Tony's ever put out, please do it. It'll make you better. It'll make you happier. It'll make life so much more full. I promise you, it has been for me. I'm grateful for him and his teachings. And that said appreciate you guys and good luck learning how to attach your own meanings to things. Thanks again. We'll talk soon. Hey, this is Russell again and earlier today I recorded the podcast about meaning and I just been thinking a lot about that over the last little bit. And just wanted to jump back in real quick and just add a couple more thoughts just for those who may not, maybe it didn't connect with yet because I wasn't very good at giving examples. I'm thinking more about, like some examples. I think about meaning in my life that I attach. For example, when my kids do something on my attach, like, "Oh, like I'm a bad dad because of that." Or my kids are lazy or all these different things we may attach, and a lot of times we beat ourselves up or beat other people up because we're attaching these meanings to different experiences and things that are happening. When instead of saying again, "Oh, I'm a bad dad." It's like, Oh, my kids are just, they have a lot of energy or I need to, how do I better explain this to them so they understand that importance of it or whatever that thing might be. Right. It's just shifting that, that meaning away from a lot of times the blame on us or blame on other people or opinions or judgments on other people to have more love and respect and understanding that everybody's kind of trying their best. And so I just want to kind of add that in there. I was thinking also I shared the conversation a little bit with my mom and I. And it's interesting because on her side, she's sharing me her thoughts and she's so emotional because she's scared for me because of my decisions. And I'm very scared for her because of her decisions. And so we have the same underlining fear for each other. Yet, we have the opposite beliefs on the topic. And so it's tough. And it's hard when both people are trying to do the right thing. Right. And so coming back and when the meaning becomes like hey this person really loves me and they really care, and this is their choices and that's what they feel is right. And I have to respect them. And I love them for that. I'm just like, I'm hoping that they will do the same thing for me. It's just shifting those meanings. So anyway, I just want to kind of add that in there for anybody who's trying to make it more real for themselves and think about it. Think about the times in your life, when you feel guilty, I'm a bad mom, I'm a bad dad. I'm a bad boss. I'm a bad employee. I'm a bad worker. I'm, all the guilt that we take on ourselves because we all do it and shifting that meaning, it's something different. So anyway, there's my addendum to the end of the podcast. I hope that helps shed a little bit more light. Anyway. Thanks for listening. Appreciate you all and we'll talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you're struggling with difficult times, as most of us are; this is one tool I learned from Tony that's been helping me a ton.

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What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I want to go a little Tony Robbins on you if you're okay with that. We've been dealing with some hard things and something I learned from Tony about, man, eight or nine years ago has helped me and I want to share with you guys as well.

All right. So I'm not going to go to specifics, but I think everybody, especially in the last year, has gone through hard things, challenges, things that are frustrating. Things don't make sense. Things make you angry, things that make you sad. And it's hard. Anyway, I think for the most part, most of the stuff I talk about is the fun stuff and the exciting things. And I think that maybe the positives and the negatives of social media and all the things we do is that usually we share a highlight reel, which hopefully inspires people and things like that.

But there's also the other side we don't talk about as often, but it's there. And we've had a lot of, I think like everybody, a lot of ups and downs, especially over the last 12 months or so, but we recently had one that's been the toughest by far. Again, I'm not going to talk about the details at all, but as my family, I've been kind of navigating this and going through it. The one thing that keeps coming back to me is it's interesting. It's this thing that I learned from Tony Robbins very first time I went to UPW. So I didn't know how long ago it was. It was over 10, maybe 12, probably 12 years ago. Dang. Anyway, so that the time I was at UPW was actually, it was right after Jim Rowan had just passed away, which was interesting. And Jim Rowan was Tony Robbins' first mentor and he passed away and the event was like three days later.

And so we're at this event and of course, Tony starts talking about his mentor who just passed away. And he talks about how obviously how sad it was for them. And then he started talking about this concept and he expounded on it at other events I went to. He talked about the meaning that we attach to things. And it was interesting because so many of us experienced the same things, right. But the meaning that we attach to things is how we end up feeling and how we cope with things. Right? And so, for example, he said, when Jim Rowan first passed away, his first year, the first initial news and your mind automatically attaches a meaning to it, right? Here's the news, boom, here's the meaning and the whatever meaning is attached to it, that's how you feel about situations. He said, by default, the meaning he got was like, "Oh my gosh, my mentor died. This is so sad. Like I wish I could have talked to him. I wish..." And all these things. Right. And this was meaning is that this thing is so sad and so hard. And it's because of it, it was hard.

He's like, for the first couple of days, I struggled, I was really struggling, but he's like, as I stopped and I was able to sit back, I started noticing like, what was the meaning that I put to this? Like the, his death and like the meeting was man, I wasn't ready for him to go. You know, it was too early. all these things like, that was the meeting that my, that my brain by default attaches.

And because I was able to step away and become conscious of meaning that attached. I was able to think about well, what meaning would I like to attach to this event? I can change the meaning. And so he sat back and he said, "I'm going to change the meaning." And instead of saying, "This is such a horrible thing. I'm like going to change the meaning. It means like, man, I'm so grateful for the time I had with him. I'm so grateful things I learned from him, such an amazing man." And he lived such a great life, like how amazing it was. And so he shifted the meeting. "When I shifted the meaning, like the feeling was different. And I went from being sad to being like, man, this is such a, I was so grateful for this person."

And again this is just a tiny little shift, but so powerful. And as I've been experiencing dealing with things over the last little while, I've been trying to be more conscious of what things in my brain... What's the meaning that my brain attaches by default when an experience happens. And typically when it's a sad or a tragic or a hard experience, your brain defaults to like the worst thing, right. Boom, with slapping that label on, slapping that meaning. And if you can learn ow, to step back from the initial, what your brain quickly labels something on, you can shift things, right? Like for example, someone walks up to you and they slap you in the face. Like the meeting is going to attach like this person just slapped me. I'm going to slap them back and boom. And all of a sudden, like the scuffle happens, right.

But if this is a slap in the face, you stop, you like, what's the meaning? Why did they do that? What's the purpose of being like, "Oh my gosh, the person slapped me because they thought that... Whatever." And it's like, you come back. No, no, wait, let me explain and you can diffuse the situation. You can change it by shifting the meaning that you're attaching to it. And something that Tony talked about later, it was a date with destiny, he talked about becoming a master meaning maker. So what's the meaning you're going to attach, like making the meaning. And so you start dissociating yourself from like the thing that your brain immediately attaches and saying, "Okay, experience happens. It's stopping." What's the meaning that you choose to apply to this situation, this event that just happened. Right?

And now you apply different meaning. And it's like, "Oh." And I know for me, like man, especially social media and all social media triggers all of us, right. Where you see something, you see somebody post something and all the triggers start happening and you start firing your brain. You want to like, duh, unleash your wrath upon them in the comments. And what I've been trying to do really quickly is stop and looking and saying, "Okay, I'm going to assume that this person has really good intentions when they're posting. I may not agree with it but I do agree that most people do things out of good intentions, even if I feel they're misguided or whatever, but they have good intentions." Right? I believe politically, people on the left and the right and in the middle and all sorts of all that they say, everyone's acting out of good intentions.

They're all doing what they think is right. Even though I think some people are completely wrong, it doesn't matter. They think I'm completely wrong. Right. And so it's like when they post something, I have the meaning of like, "Oh, they're evil, they're bad." Like that's the initial default that has come back saying, "Wait, wait." Instead, what if I attach the meaning that person has the good intentions. And I may not agree with them, but they're doing the best based on what they think is right. Right. And then we see, it's like how people parent, how people vote, how people, all these things. And it's tough because we want to fight. We want to be right. What I've been trying to do a step back and not default comment, not default fight back, but instead come back, say, okay, the meaning attached to that person's comment, it's not that they're dumb or they're wrong or they're whatever. It's just like, that person thinks that they're doing what's best for them. They have good intentions. I love them for the fact that they're doing their best based on the knowledge they have.

And it's hard. I'm going to tell you, it's hard. I'm sure all you guys struggle with that. But for me, it's what I'm trying to do for a lot of reasons. One is it's keeping my sanity on somethings. Number two, it's helping me to be happier through these hard times. Right. Something tragic and horrible happens, it's okay, there's different meanings we can attach to this. It's not fair. It's why did it have to happen? Why did we... All these things or can make man what's the blessing, what's the shift? What's the thing we can change. And so I know it's not an easy thing. This is not something that's going to be like, Oh cool. I'll just start applying different meetings by default. But I do promise you that in most situations, our brains will slap the worst possible meaning on every situation.

And if we can look at that and stop and pause and become conscious of it and step back and say, "Okay, I'm going to choose a different meaning. This is the meaning I'm going to attach instead." Is that this person confused, they slapped me because they didn't know who I was. They thought I was the wrong person, or they didn't understand the situation. Let me step back instead of punching them back and escalating this thing into a blood bath, which is actually fun. I'm all for fighting, but... I'm just kidding. Instead is come back and say, "Well, okay, they attached the wrong me. That's why they did this thing. Let me try to help them understand."

I didn't, and coming back, we have an argument, I wasn't trying to be rude. This is the meaning that I attach to this and this is the reason, and this is why. Anyway, I hope that helps.

I'll share this with my mom this last week. So obviously there's this whole, in the COVID situation, there's all these things, the vaccines. And my mom and I have very differing opinions on the vaccine and what you should do and what you should not do. And I'm not going to get political or talk like ... It's up to everybody individually, do your own research and figure out what's right for you. Right. But my mom and I definitely have different opinions on it. And she's very strong at one side, I'm very strong in the other side. And so we had this conversation and, in a spot where I wanted to get defensive and I wanted to try to point out my point of view and, try to prove through all my facts and all the logic and reasoning I have. I'm sure she wanted to do the same thing. When she told me and I was able to understand, she's doing this based on what she thinks is best for her and her best intentions. And I have to let her. I have to respect that. That's her decisions. It's not my decisions. And if I want her to love and respect my decisions, I need to respect hers.

And so it was able to turn something that had probably a conversation that would have turned heated, frustrated, and probably burned some bridges for awhile into something where it's like, "Look, I love you and respect you, and I'm going to let you do what you feel is best. I'm going to do what I feel is best. And we can still love each other, respect each other."

And the meaning is not like, "Oh, this person's dumb or they're wrong." Or they're whatever you want it by default want to attach to the situation, which makes me want to come fight and, and argue and all sorts of stuff. It shifted back to like, no, instead of that, the meaning is going to attach that this is what they feel is best for them. And I love them and I want them... And maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Maybe I'm not wrong. I don't think I'm wrong, but it's their opinion. It's what they think is best for them. And so I'm going to love them and respect them for that and support them and just pray for them. And that's kind of it.

So, anyway, I know this is a little different podcast episode, but I just wanted to give you guys that tool because something that's been helping me a lot, especially the last week or so.

And yeah, it's just so as we're navigating these difficult times, any tools we can use help and learning about meaning and how to create your own, becoming a master of creating your own meanings, I learned from Tony a decade ago now, something that I'm using more and more, and it's been super helpful for me. So I hope that helps. Remember that your brain is going to slap a meaning on it. By default, it's going to be the worst possible one that's going to cause you to want to fight or flight or whatever that thing is. It's like your job to consciously stop and pick the meaning, pick the meaning that serves you the most, not the one that's going to cause the most turmoil in your life. And when you shift the meaning, it's just shifts the energy, it shifts the focus, and it can change your destiny.

So hope it helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. If you haven't studied everything Tony's ever put out, please do it. It'll make you better. It'll make you happier. It'll make life so much more full. I promise you, it has been for me. I'm grateful for him and his teachings. And that said appreciate you guys and good luck learning how to attach your own meanings to things. Thanks again. We'll talk soon.

Hey, this is Russell again and earlier today I recorded the podcast about meaning and I just been thinking a lot about that over the last little bit. And just wanted to jump back in real quick and just add a couple more thoughts just for those who may not, maybe it didn't connect with yet because I wasn't very good at giving examples. I'm thinking more about, like some examples. I think about meaning in my life that I attach. For example, when my kids do something on my attach, like, "Oh, like I'm a bad dad because of that." Or my kids are lazy or all these different things we may attach, and a lot of times we beat ourselves up or beat other people up because we're attaching these meanings to different experiences and things that are happening. When instead of saying again, "Oh, I'm a bad dad." It's like, Oh, my kids are just, they have a lot of energy or I need to, how do I better explain this to them so they understand that importance of it or whatever that thing might be. Right. It's just shifting that, that meaning away from a lot of times the blame on us or blame on other people or opinions or judgments on other people to have more love and respect and understanding that everybody's kind of trying their best.

And so I just want to kind of add that in there. I was thinking also I shared the conversation a little bit with my mom and I. And it's interesting because on her side, she's sharing me her thoughts and she's so emotional because she's scared for me because of my decisions. And I'm very scared for her because of her decisions. And so we have the same underlining fear for each other. Yet, we have the opposite beliefs on the topic. And so it's tough. And it's hard when both people are trying to do the right thing. Right. And so coming back and when the meaning becomes like hey this person really loves me and they really care, and this is their choices and that's what they feel is right. And I have to respect them. And I love them for that.

I'm just like, I'm hoping that they will do the same thing for me. It's just shifting those meanings. So anyway, I just want to kind of add that in there for anybody who's trying to make it more real for themselves and think about it. Think about the times in your life, when you feel guilty, I'm a bad mom, I'm a bad dad. I'm a bad boss. I'm a bad employee. I'm a bad worker. I'm, all the guilt that we take on ourselves because we all do it and shifting that meaning, it's something different.

So anyway, there's my addendum to the end of the podcast. I hope that helps shed a little bit more light. Anyway. Thanks for listening. Appreciate you all and we'll talk soon.

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]]> 926 no My Goal Setting Framework, Ripped Apart https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-goal-setting-framework-ripped-apart Last night I taught the youth of our church how to set goals. I want to show you the insights of what I taught them. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today I want to talk to you guys about a really cool experience I had yesterday, that hopefully will help you with setting your goals, creating some routines, and ultimately getting the thing that you desire most in this life. All right. I hope you guys are doing awesome today. Thanks again for listening. I always appreciate the fact that you guys are here and you're paying attention, because you know what? I could be talking to myself right now, and I'm grateful for my audience at all times. But I want to tell you guys a really cool story. So in my church, I’m assuming most churches are like this, but we have a youth program, right? For the young men and the young women, and we're always trying to figure out, what are cool ways to help them and to serve them? And I was lucky, I got asked a couple months ago from one of the leaders of our church who asked if I'd be willing to come and speak to the youth about goal setting. And they're like, "You do seminars and stuff, right? Can you come teach on goal setting?" I was like, "I do, do seminars, I've never really taught on goal setting, but I definitely am a big believer in that and I would love to come and speak." And so, last night I had a chance to actually do it and it was such a cool experience. There about 100 kids there, including my three teenagers, which was awesome. And then I got to do this thing. And obviously it ended being about a two hour session. We helped them to pick goals in four different areas of their life. We helped them pick goals. A physical goal, an intellectual goal, a social goal, and a spiritual goal. And so, that was the thing. So I talked initially about goals and I tried to get them excited. I had one person who goes to church with us who basically said, "Goal setting's boring. Kids aren't going to want to hear about this." And I was like, "Are you kidding me? Goal setting is the greatest thing in the world. You can pick anything, and then you can go set a goal and then if you have the right process and the right path, you can achieve it." And I was thinking when I was in high school, I wanted to be State champ and I actually was a really bad wrestler, but I was like, "I want this goal." And so, I had the goal and I created a process. And by my junior year I became the State champ. My senior year, I took second place in the nation. I went into wrestling in college, all these things, right? When I started my business, I was like, "I want to make a million dollars." And I didn't know anything about business but I was like, "All right, I have a goal. Now that I have a goal let we reverse engineer. How do I actually have success with this goal?" And then I went and I executed on it and I had success with it, right? Same thing when I decided I'm going to be an author. Like, "But Russell, you suck at writing." Like, "Oh crap, that's true." "And you've never written a book." "Oh yeah, that's true too." But I wanted to write a book, so I set a goal, I'm going to write a book. And then I went and I figured it out and I created a process and I wrote a book. And then I was like, "I want to be a New York Times best-selling author." They're like, "But you don't know how to do that." I'm like, "I know, but I have a goal. So let me figure it out." And now this last year I hit that. So when we started the event business I was like, "I want to be the biggest event in our industry." "But you don't know how to run an event." "I know, but this is the goal I have." So anything you want, if you know the right way to set a goal and how to do it, you can achieve it. And so, that's what we talked about last night with them and it was really, really fun. And obviously, it's tough because they're youth and I got an hour and a half, I could literally do a three day event on this and it would be fascinating and fun, well it'd be fascinating for me. So I was trying to figure out how do I do this in a way that would get them excited and motivated? I'm not going to make these kids fall asleep and not embarrass my kids in front of their friends, so that was the criteria. And it's funny because, man, I prepared a lot for it. I was even more nervous for this event than I am normally a marketing event. And I think it's because of first off, kids and second off, my kids were there and I didn't want to embarrass them, so I was nervous, but I think it turned out really good. So I obviously don't have two hours to go through everything with you, but I wanted to share a couple of things that we did because I think it'll be helpful for you guys as you're setting your goals. Because I strongly believe that if you have a goal and you are excited by it enough, you can figure it out, okay? So like I said, what we did initially is we broke things into four different categories. A physical goal, intellectual, social, and a spiritual goal. And so, the first thing I asked them was "What is the goal you actually want?" So let's say we started with the physical goal. So I was like: "Okay, what's the goal you want?" And so, I was talking about my physical goal. I want to look like the dude who plays Captain America. That guy looks awesome, right? There's my goal, so that's the first thing. Then I was like it has to be something that is trackable, right? So saying, "I want to look awesome," is hard, but saying, "I want to gain 20 pounds. I want to lose 20 pounds." Something that you can actually say, there's the finish line where you can see it and you can check it off. When I was in high school I was like, "I want to be a State champ." There's the finish line. I need to see the finish line or else a goal is just like, "Oh, I want to be healthier." What does that even mean? Eat celery once a month? Technically you're healthier. That's not a goal, right? A goal is something very, very trackable where it's like, "There's an end date that if I do this thing, I cross the finish line and I get my hand raised. I did the thing, I got the goal," so that's the first thing is making a tangible goal of what you want. Number two is looking at well why do you want to actually achieve that goal? Okay. You've heard a lot of people, there's books and courses talking about your why, you got to have a why, why you're doing it, right? And while I think most of those courses are cheesy, personally, that's just me. But it is true though. If I was like, "I want to be State champ." "Why?" "I don't know." Then I'm not probably going to get it. If I was like, "I want to be State champ because I saw another person win State title. I saw their hand get raised. I saw that feeling. I saw the look in their eyes and I desire that, I want that. I want to experience that. I want to feel what it feels like to get my hand raised. I don't know what it is, but I can see it. I can visualize it, I can taste it and I want that." So the second question is, why do you want that goal? Okay. So what's the goal that's trackable and then why do you want it? And the more intense your why is the more likely you are to get it. In fact, right now, at the time of recording this, we're in the middle of Two Comma Club live and one of my friends, who’s one of the wrestling coaches with me, has been going through it, and he messaged me during the lunch break and he said, "Man, I just watched the commercial you guys had with Two Comma Club board and people opening their boxes." And he's like, "I started crying." And he starts talking to me, he gets emotional again. And then he messaged me two hours later, he's like, "I'm so sorry, I got emotional, I didn't mean to do that." I'm like, "No, dude, that's the key." He's been around me for three years now, four years now and he's been going through the stuff and he wanted it. He had a goal like, "Oh yeah, I want to hit Two Comma Club, it sounds good." But his why wasn't big enough, right? After he felt that and he saw that, right? To the point where he was emotional. Now his why just got amplified. The desire increased. You've got to have that desire or else it's just like, "Oh yeah, I want to get six pack abs." But unless you have the why that increases the desire, then what's the point of it? You're not going to go after it, you're not going to do what you need to do to actually accomplish the goal. So the second question is why do you need to achieve that? And then because we're in a church setting I also had this followup question there that said, "How would that help you become more like Jesus Christ?" Which for, I think anyone, whether you're Christian or not, that's a good question. He's the great example, he's the best example that's ever lived on this planet. It's like, "How would accomplishing the goal help me grow closer to him?" So that's a sub question. All right, so number one, what is your goal? Number two is why you want to achieve the goal. The number three is who's going to be your guide? Who's already achieved that goal, right? If I want to get six pack abs, I want to look like Chris Evans from Captain America, that dude's already done it before. So I'm not going to just be like, "Okay, well I'm going to go try to figure it out." I'm going to be like, "Who's the dude or the lady who's already achieved this goal, that already has a roadmap, that already has a blueprint, that already has a framework, that already has the thing that I can do? And I'm going to find that person and I'm going to model them," right? If they've written a book, I'm going to read the book. If they made a YouTube video I'm going to watch the YouTube video, if I can talk to them on the phone, I'm going to talk to them on the phone. Who is the person that can be my guide? I don't want to go and just wander aimlessly into the night, right? That happens all the time. People set goals like, "I'm going to go and make a million bucks." And they jump online and they start goofing around, they'll do anything. It's like, "Man, if you honestly have a goal to hit Two Comma Club, you should join our Two Comma Coaching Program, because literally we have a framework. This works for over 1,000 people." You'd be insane not too but people are like, "Oh, I'm just going to figure out my own." Why would you do that? Do you hate success so bad you're going to just wander around and hope to figure out the way. It's like, you're out in the forest and there's a dude who's like, "I got a map that could to take you guys out." You're like, "I'll figure it out, I'm good." Why don't you just take the map? Are you insane? Just grab the map. It's right here. Okay, so the third step is who's got the map? Get the map, figure out whose got the process, who's your guide, who's already done this in the past and follow a framework. Don't just make the thing up on your own. Don't just guess, okay? So who's your guide? And then the third step is how are you going to do it? I want to win the State title, I want to get six pack abs, I want to hit Two Comma Club, I want to, whatever your thing is, right? This measurable goal, okay? Then there's always sub goals that lead underneath it. And these sub goals are more routine based. So for example, let's say it was wrestling, I want to be State champion in wrestling, okay? What were my sub things I had to do to accomplish that? Well, it means I have to lift weights. I got to get started on this, so I got to lift weights every single day. What's another thing? Okay, my cardio has got to be in shape, I got to run, so I'm going to do cardio. Number three, I got to wrestle a lot. Number four, I get my nutrition right, so I have my health. I list out here's all the sub things I need to do to accomplish that major goal, okay? So here's the sub things. If it was Two Comma Club, if I wanted to do Two Comma Club, what would I do? Okay, well, every single day I got to be publishing something. So I got to publish something. Russel's says publish daily, I got to publish something. Number two, I got to be creating offers. What's the offer I'm going to create? What are the offers… I’ve  got to be creating offers. Number three, I need to be driving traffic, I need to be getting on people's podcasts, I need to be getting interviewed, I need to be doing stuff, right? So I figure out what are the steps? What are the sub things you need to actually be successful? So list those out. Okay. Then I had everybody go down and say, "Okay, what's the date that you're going to accomplish this by?" You need to have a tangible date?" Like, "Oh yeah, I'm going to win the State title." "When?" "I don't know, someday." "I'm going to get Two Comma Club." "When?" "I don't know, someday." You need to make a date, so you got something you're marching towards. I need to hit Two Comma Club before Funnel Hacking Live, right? Funnel Hacking Live 2022, whatever that is. You pick a tangible date. This is the date that I will hit that thing. Set the date, and then after that I was like, "How are you to celebrate after you achieve it?" Okay? Because there's always like the stick in the carrot, right? The stick is the thing that's going to kick your butt and move you forward. That's the goals, that's the routines, that's all the stuff that’s going to be pushing you forward. But then the carrot at the end is the thing that's driving and saying, "Oh, I want that." For me, I wanted to win a State title because I wanted to get my hand raised, that feeling, I wanted that, right? A lot of you guys want the Two Comma Club, you want to get the award on stage, right? Six pack abs, I want to take my shirt off and have my wife be like, "Dang, I want to wash my clothes on your abs," right? Whatever that thing is for you. But how are you going to celebrate? Okay, so I attach the date to the goal and how I'm going to celebrate. All right, and after that was done, then I handed out everybody this weekly schedule and I printed them out on a paper. Basically it was Monday through Sunday and it has all the columns. We build stuff in Excel sheets, so there's a Monday column, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And then down the side or the times. So 5:30 AM, 6, 6:30, 7, 7:30. So there's all of these sales down the side, Excel style, right? All the way down until 11:30 PM. So we hand this thing out. So it was a big, huge grid of every hour of the week. I said, "Okay, for you to actually be successful, how can people set New Year's resolutions, New Year's goals and they come in on January 2nd and there's 8,000 people in the gym and you come in February 2nd and there's no one in the gym," right? Because no one sticks to their goals. And the reason why is because they had these lofty goals like, "Oh, I'm going to get in shape," but they're not tangible. They're not tracked, they have no why, they're not following any guide and they don't have those sub steps to do it. So you guys have these things now, you have these sub steps, you take the sub steps and you plug them into a routine." Okay? When I was wrestling, I knew that if I was going to be in successful wrestling, I couldn't just hopefully hit and miss things and hopefully have success. I said, "Okay, if I'm to be successful, I have to run every morning. So I took my my little routine calendar out and I said, 'Every morning at whatever, from 6 to 7:00 AM, this is my running time.' And I block out those hours and they became sacred time to me." From 6 to 7:00 AM I am running and nothing else, right? And then I said, "Okay, I have practice every day from two to five. So two to five's blocked out. This is wrestling practice, I'm going to work on my skillset." And then I said, "Okay, from five to six, my dad's coming and we're drilling, actual drilling and then over here, this is what I'm going to be doing." And I blocked out those times on my calendar that became sacred time where every single day I'd wake up and I didn't to think, I said, "Okay, boom, 6 o'clock. This what I do to achieve. If I want to get that goal, this is the daily tasks I have to do to achieve that goal." Right? And I mapped it out, it was blocked out of my calendar, it was sacred. And so, with these kids, I did the same thing, I said, "Okay, you got your physical, your intellectual or social and spiritual goals. What are the things you need to block out on your calendar, right? If you have spiritual goals, you got to read scriptures every day. So plug it in. If you got to do whatever every day, you're plugging it in. If you're publishing content every day, right? Okay, every day I'm recording a podcast. You block out time. Every day at 6:30 I know I'm recording a podcast. That's sacred time and I'm not messing with it." So I had them do this on this piece of paper so they could see it visually and I said, "Okay, now go back into your phone, on your calendar and plug those times into your calendar on your phone, now you've got them. Now that they're plugged in and you've got them, the phone will pop up every day and be like, 'Hey, time to go do this thing.' And you can actually do the things." And I said, "Building out the routines are the things that make it so that all the stuff starts flowing up, so you can actually reach and achieve your goal eventually." And so, that's the framework that we gave people. And then the last thing I did is I said, "Okay, the other thing you got to do is once a week, you got to have a return and report with yourself, like a reflection time where you're coming back and saying, 'How'd I do?'" Okay? The reality that's going to probably happen is after the first seven days you're done, you sit down and you're like, "Okay. I told myself I was going to publish every single day. I literally didn't. I did it two days this week or I did it once, that sucks, but next week I'm going to recommit. I'm going to do better." You look back at your calendar and you say, "Okay, I'm going to recommit, I'm going to do better this time." You rebuild it out, okay, now we're going to do it. And that becomes the next thing. And then next week you come back and you look at your calendar, "How'd I do? Well, I did three days this week, but I didn't do the seven like I promised myself, okay, that's all right. I'm going to recommit and start over again." And you keep looking at it. Every week you make the adjustments like, how did I do on my times? How am I feeling? Did I do enough stuff? Did I not do enough stuff? What do I need to tweak? Every seven days you have the chance to rebuild, come back and refix that the thing and just keep going and keep doing that consistently, what's going to happen is the first week, you're not going to see many changes. Within a month you may start feeling some things, within 6 months, within in a year, within 5 years, within 10 years, your destiny will be different. That's the key. So anyway, I wish I could do this with the work sheets and handouts with you guys because it'd be more impactful, but I wanted to show you guys that because that's how I set my goals. It's not just a lofty goal, right? "Russell, what are your goals?" "These are my goals." They're like, "Cool, how are you going to achieve them?" Okay. Well, it's more than that. It's like, hey, what's my goal. Why do I want that? And I want to amplify that desire as much as I can, I want to make it emotional so that I feel it, I desire it, I want it. And then I figure out a guide, I'm not going to go make this stuff on my own. Who's already got this stuff figured out? Who am I going to model? Who's got the framework?/ I'm going to buy it from that person. I'm going to read the book. I'm going to do the thing, whatever I need to do. Build out the sub steps, plug the sub steps into a routine and that routine becomes sacred time, and now I just go do my daily business and I don't miss my sacred time. And if I do that, all of the other things rise back up, right? I do the daily routines that helps me and I'm plugging in everything I've learned from the guide and the daily routines. So I do the daily routines, I'm following the guide, my why gets amplified more and more as I go and eventually I hit my goal. That is the secret. So anyway, I hope it helps you guys. I don't really about talk a lot about goal setting, things like that in most of my things, but since I had a chance to teach that class, it was just a fun time for me to reflect and think on it and hopefully there's some value for you guys in that as well. So with that said, let me know if you guys want to hear more stuff like this. Normally I just talk marketing, but there's fun stuff that I do as well. Maybe I should share some more of those things with you guys. Anyway, I appreciate you all. Thanks so much for everything. If you haven't come to Funnel Hacking Live yet, you need to come. We're preparing for it. This year is going to be insane. Tickets are on sale right now. They're selling faster than ever before, which is crazy, probably because it's a hybrid event this year, it's probably the only year we'll do Funnel Hacking Live hybrid where it's virtual and in-person, but make sure you get your tickets because it's going to be insane. But that's it. Thanks you guys. I appreciate you all and we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Mar 2021 09:00:00 -0000 My Goal Setting Framework, Ripped Apart full 394 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Last night I taught the youth of our church how to set goals. I want to show you the insights of what I taught them. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is... Last night I taught the youth of our church how to set goals. I want to show you the insights of what I taught them. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today I want to talk to you guys about a really cool experience I had yesterday, that hopefully will help you with setting your goals, creating some routines, and ultimately getting the thing that you desire most in this life. All right. I hope you guys are doing awesome today. Thanks again for listening. I always appreciate the fact that you guys are here and you're paying attention, because you know what? I could be talking to myself right now, and I'm grateful for my audience at all times. But I want to tell you guys a really cool story. So in my church, I’m assuming most churches are like this, but we have a youth program, right? For the young men and the young women, and we're always trying to figure out, what are cool ways to help them and to serve them? And I was lucky, I got asked a couple months ago from one of the leaders of our church who asked if I'd be willing to come and speak to the youth about goal setting. And they're like, "You do seminars and stuff, right? Can you come teach on goal setting?" I was like, "I do, do seminars, I've never really taught on goal setting, but I definitely am a big believer in that and I would love to come and speak." And so, last night I had a chance to actually do it and it was such a cool experience. There about 100 kids there, including my three teenagers, which was awesome. And then I got to do this thing. And obviously it ended being about a two hour session. We helped them to pick goals in four different areas of their life. We helped them pick goals. A physical goal, an intellectual goal, a social goal, and a spiritual goal. And so, that was the thing. So I talked initially about goals and I tried to get them excited. I had one person who goes to church with us who basically said, "Goal setting's boring. Kids aren't going to want to hear about this." And I was like, "Are you kidding me? Goal setting is the greatest thing in the world. You can pick anything, and then you can go set a goal and then if you have the right process and the right path, you can achieve it." And I was thinking when I was in high school, I wanted to be State champ and I actually was a really bad wrestler, but I was like, "I want this goal." And so, I had the goal and I created a process. And by my junior year I became the State champ. My senior year, I took second place in the nation. I went into wrestling in college, all these things, right? When I started my business, I was like, "I want to make a million dollars." And I didn't know anything about business but I was like, "All right, I have a goal. Now that I have a goal let we reverse engineer. How do I actually have success with this goal?" And then I went and I executed on it and I had success with it, right? Same thing when I decided I'm going to be an author. Like, "But Russell, you suck at writing." Like, "Oh crap, that's true." "And you've never written a book." "Oh yeah, that's true too." But I wanted to write a book, so I set a goal, I'm going to write a book. And then I went and I figured it out and I created a process and I wrote a book. And then I was like, "I want to be a New York Times best-selling author." They're like, "But you don't know how to do that." I'm like, "I know, but I have a goal. So let me figure it out." And now this last year I hit that. So when we started the event business I was like, "I want to be the biggest event in our industry." "But you don't know how to run an event." "I know, but this is the goal I have." So anything you want, if you know the right way to set a goal and how to do it, you can achieve it. And so, that's what we talked about last night with them and it was really, really fun. And obviously, it's tough because they're youth and I got an hour and a half, I could literally do a three day event on this and it would be fascinating and fun, well it'd be fascinating for me. So I was trying to figure out how do I do this in a way that would get them excited and motivated? I'm not going to make these kids fall asleep and not embarrass my kids in front of their friends, so that was the criteria. And it's funny because, man, I prepared a lot for it. I was even more nervous for this event than I am normally a marketing event. And I think it's because of first off, kids and second off, my kids were there and I didn't want to embarrass them, so I was nervous, but I think it turned out really good. So I obviously don't have two hours to go through everything with you, but I wanted to share a couple of things that we did because I think it'll be helpful for you guys as you're setting your goals. Because I strongly believe that if you have a goal and you are excited by it enough, you can figure it out, okay? So like I said, what we did initially is we broke things into four different categories. A physical goal, intellectual, social, and a spiritual goal. And so, the first thing I asked them was "What is the goal you actually want?" So let's say we started with the physical goal. So I was like: "Okay, what's the goal you want?" And so, I was talking about my physical goal. I want to look like the dude who plays Captain America. That guy looks awesome, right? There's my goal, so that's the first thing. Then I was like it has to be something that is trackable, right? So saying, "I want to look awesome," is hard, but saying, "I want to gain 20 pounds. I want to lose 20 pounds." Something that you can actually say, there's the finish line where you can see it and you can check it off. When I was in high school I was like, "I want to be a State champ." There's the finish line. I need to see the finish line or else a goal is just like, "Oh, I want to be healthier." What does that even mean? Eat celery once a month? Technically you're healthier. That's not a goal, right? A goal is something very, very trackable where it's like, "There's an end date that if I do this thing, I cross the finish line and I get my hand raised. I did the thing, I got the goal," so that's the first thing is making a tangible goal of what you want. Number two is looking at well why do you want to actually achieve that goal? Okay. You've heard a lot of people, there's books and courses talking about your why, you got to have a why, why you're doing it, right? And while I think most of those courses are cheesy, personally, that's just me. But it is true though. If I was like, "I want to be State champ." "Why?" "I don't know." Then I'm not probably going to get it. If I was like, "I want to be State champ because I saw another person win State title. I saw their hand get raised. I saw that feeling. I saw the look in their eyes and I desire that, I want that. I want to experience that. I want to feel what it feels like to get my hand raised. I don't know what it is, but I can see it. I can visualize it, I can taste it and I want that." So the second question is, why do you want that goal? Okay. So what's the goal that's trackable and then why do you want it? And the more intense your why is the more likely you are to get it. In fact, right now, at the time of recording this, we're in the middle of Two Comma Club live and one of my friends, who’s one of the wrestling coaches with me, has been going through it, and he messaged me during the lunch break and he said, "Man, I just watched the commercial you guys had with Two Comma Club board and people opening their boxes." And he's like, "I started crying." And he starts talking to me, he gets emotional again. And then he messaged me two hours later, he's like, "I'm so sorry, I got emotional, I didn't mean to do that." I'm like, "No, dude, that's the key." He's been around me for three years now, four years now and he's been going through the stuff and he wanted it. He had a goal like, "Oh yeah, I want to hit Two Comma Club, it sounds good." But his why wasn't big enough, right? After he felt that and he saw that, right? To the point where he was emotional. Now his why just got amplified. The desire increased. You've got to have that desire or else it's just like, "Oh yeah, I want to get six pack abs." But unless you have the why that increases the desire, then what's the point of it? You're not going to go after it, you're not going to do what you need to do to actually accomplish the goal. So the second question is why do you need to achieve that? And then because we're in a church setting I also had this followup question there that said, "How would that help you become more like Jesus Christ?" Which for, I think anyone, whether you're Christian or not, that's a good question. He's the great example, he's the best example that's ever lived on this planet. It's like, "How would accomplishing the goal help me grow closer to him?" So that's a sub question. All right, so number one, what is your goal? Number two is why you want to achieve the goal. The number three is who's going to be your guide? Who's already achieved that goal, right? If I want to get six pack abs, I want to look like Chris Evans from Captain America, that dude's already done it before. So I'm not going to just be like, "Okay, well I'm going to go try to figure it out." I'm going to be like, "Who's the dude or the lady who's already achieved this goal, that already has a roadmap, that already has a blueprint, that already has a framework, that already has the thing that I can do? And I'm going to find that person and I'm going to model them," right? If they've written a book, I'm going to read the book. If they made a YouTube video I'm going to watch the YouTube video, if I can talk to them on the phone, I'm going to talk to them on the phone. Who is the person that can be my guide? I don't want to go and just wander aimlessly into the night, right? That happens all the time. People set goals like, "I'm going to go and make a million bucks." And they jump online and they start goofing around, they'll do anything. It's like, "Man, if you honestly have a goal to hit Two Comma Club, you should join our Two Comma Coaching Program, because literally we have a framework. This works for over 1,000 people." You'd be insane not too but people are like, "Oh, I'm just going to figure out my own." Why would you do that? Do you hate success so bad you're going to just wander around and hope to figure out the way. It's like, you're out in the forest and there's a dude who's like, "I got a map that could to take you guys out." You're like, "I'll figure it out, I'm good." Why don't you just take the map? Are you insane? Just grab the map. It's right here. Okay, so the third step is who's got the map? Get the map, figure out whose got the process, who's your guide, who's already done this in the past and follow a framework. Don't just make the thing up on your own. Don't just guess, okay? So who's your guide? And then the third step is how are you going to do it? I want to win the State title, I want to get six pack abs, I want to hit Two Comma Club, I want to, whatever your thing is, right? This measurable goal, okay? Then there's always sub goals that lead underneath it. And these sub goals are more routine based. So for example, let's say it was wrestling, I want to be State champion in wrestling, okay? What were my sub things I had to do to accomplish that? Well, it means I have to lift weights. I got to get started on this, so I got to lift weights every single day. What's another thing? Okay, my cardio has got to be in shape, I got to run, so I'm going to do cardio. Number three, I got to wrestle a lot. Number four, I get my nutrition right, so I have my health. I list out here's all the sub things I need to do to accomplish that major goal, okay? So here's the sub things. If it was Two Comma Club, if I wanted to do Two Comma Club, what would I do? Okay, well, every single day I got to be publishing something. So I got to publish something. Russel's says publish daily, I got to publish something. Number two, I got to be creating offers. What's the offer I'm going to create? What are the offers… I’ve  got to be creating offers. Number three, I need to be driving traffic, I need to be getting on people's podcasts, I need to be getting interviewed, I need to be doing stuff, right? So I figure out what are the steps? What are the sub things you need to actually be successful? So list those out. Okay. Then I had everybody go down and say, "Okay, what's the date that you're going to accomplish this by?" You need to have a tangible date?" Like, "Oh yeah, I'm going to win the State title." "When?" "I don't know, someday." "I'm going to get Two Comma Club." "When?" "I don't know, someday." You need to make a date, so you got something you're marching towards. I need to hit Two Comma Club before Funnel Hacking Live, right? Funnel Hacking Live 2022, whatever that is. You pick a tangible date. This is the date that I will hit that thing. Set the date, and then after that I was like, "How are you to celebrate after you achieve it?" Okay? Because there's always like the stick in the carrot, right? The stick is the thing that's going to kick your butt and move you forward. That's the goals, that's the routines, that's all the stuff that’s going to be pushing you forward. But then the carrot at the end is the thing that's driving and saying, "Oh, I want that." For me, I wanted to win a State title because I wanted to get my hand raised, that feeling, I wanted that, right? A lot of you guys want the Two Comma Club, you want to get the award on stage, right? Six pack abs, I want to take my shirt off and have my wife be like, "Dang, I want to wash my clothes on your abs," right? Whatever that thing is for you. But how are you going to celebrate? Okay, so I attach the date to the goal and how I'm going to celebrate. All right, and after that was done, then I handed out everybody this weekly schedule and I printed them out on a paper. Basically it was Monday through Sunday and it has all the columns. We build stuff in Excel sheets, so there's a Monday column, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And then down the side or the times. So 5:30 AM, 6, 6:30, 7, 7:30. So there's all of these sales down the side, Excel style, right? All the way down until 11:30 PM. So we hand this thing out. So it was a big, huge grid of every hour of the week. I said, "Okay, for you to actually be successful, how can people set New Year's resolutions, New Year's goals and they come in on January 2nd and there's 8,000 people in the gym and you come in February 2nd and there's no one in the gym," right? Because no one sticks to their goals. And the reason why is because they had these lofty goals like, "Oh, I'm going to get in shape," but they're not tangible. They're not tracked, they have no why, they're not following any guide and they don't have those sub steps to do it. So you guys have these things now, you have these sub steps, you take the sub steps and you plug them into a routine." Okay? When I was wrestling, I knew that if I was going to be in successful wrestling, I couldn't just hopefully hit and miss things and hopefully have success. I said, "Okay, if I'm to be successful, I have to run every morning. So I took my my little routine calendar out and I said, 'Every morning at whatever, from 6 to 7:00 AM, this is my running time.' And I block out those hours and they became sacred time to me." From 6 to 7:00 AM I am running and nothing else, right? And then I said, "Okay, I have practice every day from two to five. So two to five's blocked out. This is wrestling practice, I'm going to work on my skillset." And then I said, "Okay, from five to six, my dad's coming and we're drilling, actual drilling and then over here, this is what I'm going to be doing." And I blocked out those times on my calendar that became sacred time where every single day I'd wake up and I didn't to think, I said, "Okay, boom, 6 o'clock. This what I do to achieve. If I want to get that goal, this is the daily tasks I have to do to achieve that goal." Right? And I mapped it out, it was blocked out of my calendar, it was sacred. And so, with these kids, I did the same thing, I said, "Okay, you got your physical, your intellectual or social and spiritual goals. What are the things you need to block out on your calendar, right? If you have spiritual goals, you got to read scriptures every day. So plug it in. If you got to do whatever every day, you're plugging it in. If you're publishing content every day, right? Okay, every day I'm recording a podcast. You block out time. Every day at 6:30 I know I'm recording a podcast. That's sacred time and I'm not messing with it." So I had them do this on this piece of paper so they could see it visually and I said, "Okay, now go back into your phone, on your calendar and plug those times into your calendar on your phone, now you've got them. Now that they're plugged in and you've got them, the phone will pop up every day and be like, 'Hey, time to go do this thing.' And you can actually do the things." And I said, "Building out the routines are the things that make it so that all the stuff starts flowing up, so you can actually reach and achieve your goal eventually." And so, that's the framework that we gave people. And then the last thing I did is I said, "Okay, the other thing you got to do is once a week, you got to have a return and report with yourself, like a reflection time where you're coming back and saying, 'How'd I do?'" Okay? The reality that's going to probably happen is after the first seven days you're done, you sit down and you're like, "Okay. I told myself I was going to publish every single day. I literally didn't. I did it two days this week or I did it once, that sucks, but next week I'm going to recommit. I'm going to do better." You look back at your calendar and you say, "Okay, I'm going to recommit, I'm going to do better this time." You rebuild it out, okay, now we're going to do it. And that becomes the next thing. And then next week you come back and you look at your calendar, "How'd I do? Well, I did three days this week, but I didn't do the seven like I promised myself, okay, that's all right. I'm going to recommit and start over again." And you keep looking at it. Every week you make the adjustments like, how did I do on my times? How am I feeling? Did I do enough stuff? Did I not do enough stuff? What do I need to tweak? Every seven days you have the chance to rebuild, come back and refix that the thing and just keep going and keep doing that consistently, what's going to happen is the first week, you're not going to see many changes. Within a month you may start feeling some things, within 6 months, within in a year, within 5 years, within 10 years, your destiny will be different. That's the key. So anyway, I wish I could do this with the work sheets and handouts with you guys because it'd be more impactful, but I wanted to show you guys that because that's how I set my goals. It's not just a lofty goal, right? "Russell, what are your goals?" "These are my goals." They're like, "Cool, how are you going to achieve them?" Okay. Well, it's more than that. It's like, hey, what's my goal. Why do I want that? And I want to amplify that desire as much as I can, I want to make it emotional so that I feel it, I desire it, I want it. And then I figure out a guide, I'm not going to go make this stuff on my own. Who's already got this stuff figured out? Who am I going to model? Who's got the framework?/ I'm going to buy it from that person. I'm going to read the book. I'm going to do the thing, whatever I need to do. Build out the sub steps, plug the sub steps into a routine and that routine becomes sacred time, and now I just go do my daily business and I don't miss my sacred time. And if I do that, all of the other things rise back up, right? I do the daily routines that helps me and I'm plugging in everything I've learned from the guide and the daily routines. So I do the daily routines, I'm following the guide, my why gets amplified more and more as I go and eventually I hit my goal. That is the secret. So anyway, I hope it helps you guys. I don't really about talk a lot about goal setting, things like that in most of my things, but since I had a chance to teach that class, it was just a fun time for me to reflect and think on it and hopefully there's some value for you guys in that as well. So with that said, let me know if you guys want to hear more stuff like this. Normally I just talk marketing, but there's fun stuff that I do as well. Maybe I should share some more of those things with you guys. Anyway, I appreciate you all. Thanks so much for everything. If you haven't come to Funnel Hacking Live yet, you need to come. We're preparing for it. This year is going to be insane. Tickets are on sale right now. They're selling faster than ever before, which is crazy, probably because it's a hybrid event this year, it's probably the only year we'll do Funnel Hacking Live hybrid where it's virtual and in-person, but make sure you get your tickets because it's going to be insane. But that's it. Thanks you guys. I appreciate you all and we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Last night I taught the youth of our church how to set goals. I want to show you the insights of what I taught them.

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What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today I want to talk to you guys about a really cool experience I had yesterday, that hopefully will help you with setting your goals, creating some routines, and ultimately getting the thing that you desire most in this life. All right. I hope you guys are doing awesome today. Thanks again for listening. I always appreciate the fact that you guys are here and you're paying attention, because you know what? I could be talking to myself right now, and I'm grateful for my audience at all times. But I want to tell you guys a really cool story. So in my church, I’m assuming most churches are like this, but we have a youth program, right? For the young men and the young women, and we're always trying to figure out, what are cool ways to help them and to serve them?

And I was lucky, I got asked a couple months ago from one of the leaders of our church who asked if I'd be willing to come and speak to the youth about goal setting. And they're like, "You do seminars and stuff, right? Can you come teach on goal setting?" I was like, "I do, do seminars, I've never really taught on goal setting, but I definitely am a big believer in that and I would love to come and speak." And so, last night I had a chance to actually do it and it was such a cool experience. There about 100 kids there, including my three teenagers, which was awesome. And then I got to do this thing. And obviously it ended being about a two hour session. We helped them to pick goals in four different areas of their life. We helped them pick goals. A physical goal, an intellectual goal, a social goal, and a spiritual goal.

And so, that was the thing. So I talked initially about goals and I tried to get them excited. I had one person who goes to church with us who basically said, "Goal setting's boring. Kids aren't going to want to hear about this." And I was like, "Are you kidding me? Goal setting is the greatest thing in the world. You can pick anything, and then you can go set a goal and then if you have the right process and the right path, you can achieve it." And I was thinking when I was in high school, I wanted to be State champ and I actually was a really bad wrestler, but I was like, "I want this goal." And so, I had the goal and I created a process. And by my junior year I became the State champ. My senior year, I took second place in the nation. I went into wrestling in college, all these things, right? When I started my business, I was like, "I want to make a million dollars."

And I didn't know anything about business but I was like, "All right, I have a goal. Now that I have a goal let we reverse engineer. How do I actually have success with this goal?" And then I went and I executed on it and I had success with it, right? Same thing when I decided I'm going to be an author. Like, "But Russell, you suck at writing." Like, "Oh crap, that's true." "And you've never written a book." "Oh yeah, that's true too." But I wanted to write a book, so I set a goal, I'm going to write a book. And then I went and I figured it out and I created a process and I wrote a book. And then I was like, "I want to be a New York Times best-selling author." They're like, "But you don't know how to do that." I'm like, "I know, but I have a goal. So let me figure it out." And now this last year I hit that. So when we started the event business I was like, "I want to be the biggest event in our industry."

"But you don't know how to run an event." "I know, but this is the goal I have." So anything you want, if you know the right way to set a goal and how to do it, you can achieve it. And so, that's what we talked about last night with them and it was really, really fun. And obviously, it's tough because they're youth and I got an hour and a half, I could literally do a three day event on this and it would be fascinating and fun, well it'd be fascinating for me. So I was trying to figure out how do I do this in a way that would get them excited and motivated? I'm not going to make these kids fall asleep and not embarrass my kids in front of their friends, so that was the criteria. And it's funny because, man, I prepared a lot for it. I was even more nervous for this event than I am normally a marketing event.

And I think it's because of first off, kids and second off, my kids were there and I didn't want to embarrass them, so I was nervous, but I think it turned out really good. So I obviously don't have two hours to go through everything with you, but I wanted to share a couple of things that we did because I think it'll be helpful for you guys as you're setting your goals. Because I strongly believe that if you have a goal and you are excited by it enough, you can figure it out, okay? So like I said, what we did initially is we broke things into four different categories. A physical goal, intellectual, social, and a spiritual goal. And so, the first thing I asked them was "What is the goal you actually want?" So let's say we started with the physical goal. So I was like: "Okay, what's the goal you want?" And so, I was talking about my physical goal. I want to look like the dude who plays Captain America. That guy looks awesome, right? There's my goal, so that's the first thing.

Then I was like it has to be something that is trackable, right? So saying, "I want to look awesome," is hard, but saying, "I want to gain 20 pounds. I want to lose 20 pounds." Something that you can actually say, there's the finish line where you can see it and you can check it off. When I was in high school I was like, "I want to be a State champ." There's the finish line. I need to see the finish line or else a goal is just like, "Oh, I want to be healthier." What does that even mean? Eat celery once a month? Technically you're healthier. That's not a goal, right? A goal is something very, very trackable where it's like, "There's an end date that if I do this thing, I cross the finish line and I get my hand raised. I did the thing, I got the goal," so that's the first thing is making a tangible goal of what you want.

Number two is looking at well why do you want to actually achieve that goal? Okay. You've heard a lot of people, there's books and courses talking about your why, you got to have a why, why you're doing it, right? And while I think most of those courses are cheesy, personally, that's just me. But it is true though. If I was like, "I want to be State champ." "Why?" "I don't know." Then I'm not probably going to get it. If I was like, "I want to be State champ because I saw another person win State title. I saw their hand get raised. I saw that feeling. I saw the look in their eyes and I desire that, I want that. I want to experience that. I want to feel what it feels like to get my hand raised. I don't know what it is, but I can see it. I can visualize it, I can taste it and I want that." So the second question is, why do you want that goal? Okay.

So what's the goal that's trackable and then why do you want it? And the more intense your why is the more likely you are to get it. In fact, right now, at the time of recording this, we're in the middle of Two Comma Club live and one of my friends, who’s one of the wrestling coaches with me, has been going through it, and he messaged me during the lunch break and he said, "Man, I just watched the commercial you guys had with Two Comma Club board and people opening their boxes." And he's like, "I started crying." And he starts talking to me, he gets emotional again. And then he messaged me two hours later, he's like, "I'm so sorry, I got emotional, I didn't mean to do that." I'm like, "No, dude, that's the key." He's been around me for three years now, four years now and he's been going through the stuff and he wanted it. He had a goal like, "Oh yeah, I want to hit Two Comma Club, it sounds good." But his why wasn't big enough, right?

After he felt that and he saw that, right? To the point where he was emotional. Now his why just got amplified. The desire increased. You've got to have that desire or else it's just like, "Oh yeah, I want to get six pack abs." But unless you have the why that increases the desire, then what's the point of it? You're not going to go after it, you're not going to do what you need to do to actually accomplish the goal. So the second question is why do you need to achieve that? And then because we're in a church setting I also had this followup question there that said, "How would that help you become more like Jesus Christ?" Which for, I think anyone, whether you're Christian or not, that's a good question. He's the great example, he's the best example that's ever lived on this planet. It's like, "How would accomplishing the goal help me grow closer to him?" So that's a sub question.

All right, so number one, what is your goal? Number two is why you want to achieve the goal. The number three is who's going to be your guide? Who's already achieved that goal, right? If I want to get six pack abs, I want to look like Chris Evans from Captain America, that dude's already done it before. So I'm not going to just be like, "Okay, well I'm going to go try to figure it out." I'm going to be like, "Who's the dude or the lady who's already achieved this goal, that already has a roadmap, that already has a blueprint, that already has a framework, that already has the thing that I can do? And I'm going to find that person and I'm going to model them," right? If they've written a book, I'm going to read the book. If they made a YouTube video I'm going to watch the YouTube video, if I can talk to them on the phone, I'm going to talk to them on the phone. Who is the person that can be my guide?

I don't want to go and just wander aimlessly into the night, right? That happens all the time. People set goals like, "I'm going to go and make a million bucks." And they jump online and they start goofing around, they'll do anything. It's like, "Man, if you honestly have a goal to hit Two Comma Club, you should join our Two Comma Coaching Program, because literally we have a framework. This works for over 1,000 people." You'd be insane not too but people are like, "Oh, I'm just going to figure out my own." Why would you do that? Do you hate success so bad you're going to just wander around and hope to figure out the way. It's like, you're out in the forest and there's a dude who's like, "I got a map that could to take you guys out." You're like, "I'll figure it out, I'm good." Why don't you just take the map? Are you insane? Just grab the map. It's right here.

Okay, so the third step is who's got the map? Get the map, figure out whose got the process, who's your guide, who's already done this in the past and follow a framework. Don't just make the thing up on your own. Don't just guess, okay? So who's your guide? And then the third step is how are you going to do it? I want to win the State title, I want to get six pack abs, I want to hit Two Comma Club, I want to, whatever your thing is, right? This measurable goal, okay? Then there's always sub goals that lead underneath it. And these sub goals are more routine based. So for example, let's say it was wrestling, I want to be State champion in wrestling, okay? What were my sub things I had to do to accomplish that? Well, it means I have to lift weights. I got to get started on this, so I got to lift weights every single day. What's another thing?

Okay, my cardio has got to be in shape, I got to run, so I'm going to do cardio. Number three, I got to wrestle a lot. Number four, I get my nutrition right, so I have my health. I list out here's all the sub things I need to do to accomplish that major goal, okay? So here's the sub things. If it was Two Comma Club, if I wanted to do Two Comma Club, what would I do? Okay, well, every single day I got to be publishing something. So I got to publish something. Russel's says publish daily, I got to publish something. Number two, I got to be creating offers. What's the offer I'm going to create? What are the offers… I’ve  got to be creating offers. Number three, I need to be driving traffic, I need to be getting on people's podcasts, I need to be getting interviewed, I need to be doing stuff, right? So I figure out what are the steps? What are the sub things you need to actually be successful? So list those out.

Okay. Then I had everybody go down and say, "Okay, what's the date that you're going to accomplish this by?" You need to have a tangible date?" Like, "Oh yeah, I'm going to win the State title." "When?" "I don't know, someday." "I'm going to get Two Comma Club." "When?" "I don't know, someday." You need to make a date, so you got something you're marching towards. I need to hit Two Comma Club before Funnel Hacking Live, right? Funnel Hacking Live 2022, whatever that is. You pick a tangible date. This is the date that I will hit that thing. Set the date, and then after that I was like, "How are you to celebrate after you achieve it?" Okay? Because there's always like the stick in the carrot, right? The stick is the thing that's going to kick your butt and move you forward. That's the goals, that's the routines, that's all the stuff that’s going to be pushing you forward.

But then the carrot at the end is the thing that's driving and saying, "Oh, I want that." For me, I wanted to win a State title because I wanted to get my hand raised, that feeling, I wanted that, right? A lot of you guys want the Two Comma Club, you want to get the award on stage, right? Six pack abs, I want to take my shirt off and have my wife be like, "Dang, I want to wash my clothes on your abs," right? Whatever that thing is for you. But how are you going to celebrate? Okay, so I attach the date to the goal and how I'm going to celebrate. All right, and after that was done, then I handed out everybody this weekly schedule and I printed them out on a paper. Basically it was Monday through Sunday and it has all the columns. We build stuff in Excel sheets, so there's a Monday column, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And then down the side or the times.

So 5:30 AM, 6, 6:30, 7, 7:30. So there's all of these sales down the side, Excel style, right? All the way down until 11:30 PM. So we hand this thing out. So it was a big, huge grid of every hour of the week. I said, "Okay, for you to actually be successful, how can people set New Year's resolutions, New Year's goals and they come in on January 2nd and there's 8,000 people in the gym and you come in February 2nd and there's no one in the gym," right? Because no one sticks to their goals. And the reason why is because they had these lofty goals like, "Oh, I'm going to get in shape," but they're not tangible. They're not tracked, they have no why, they're not following any guide and they don't have those sub steps to do it. So you guys have these things now, you have these sub steps, you take the sub steps and you plug them into a routine." Okay?

When I was wrestling, I knew that if I was going to be in successful wrestling, I couldn't just hopefully hit and miss things and hopefully have success. I said, "Okay, if I'm to be successful, I have to run every morning. So I took my my little routine calendar out and I said, 'Every morning at whatever, from 6 to 7:00 AM, this is my running time.' And I block out those hours and they became sacred time to me." From 6 to 7:00 AM I am running and nothing else, right? And then I said, "Okay, I have practice every day from two to five. So two to five's blocked out. This is wrestling practice, I'm going to work on my skillset." And then I said, "Okay, from five to six, my dad's coming and we're drilling, actual drilling and then over here, this is what I'm going to be doing."

And I blocked out those times on my calendar that became sacred time where every single day I'd wake up and I didn't to think, I said, "Okay, boom, 6 o'clock. This what I do to achieve. If I want to get that goal, this is the daily tasks I have to do to achieve that goal." Right? And I mapped it out, it was blocked out of my calendar, it was sacred. And so, with these kids, I did the same thing, I said, "Okay, you got your physical, your intellectual or social and spiritual goals. What are the things you need to block out on your calendar, right? If you have spiritual goals, you got to read scriptures every day. So plug it in. If you got to do whatever every day, you're plugging it in. If you're publishing content every day, right? Okay, every day I'm recording a podcast. You block out time. Every day at 6:30 I know I'm recording a podcast. That's sacred time and I'm not messing with it."

So I had them do this on this piece of paper so they could see it visually and I said, "Okay, now go back into your phone, on your calendar and plug those times into your calendar on your phone, now you've got them. Now that they're plugged in and you've got them, the phone will pop up every day and be like, 'Hey, time to go do this thing.' And you can actually do the things." And I said, "Building out the routines are the things that make it so that all the stuff starts flowing up, so you can actually reach and achieve your goal eventually." And so, that's the framework that we gave people. And then the last thing I did is I said, "Okay, the other thing you got to do is once a week, you got to have a return and report with yourself, like a reflection time where you're coming back and saying, 'How'd I do?'" Okay?

The reality that's going to probably happen is after the first seven days you're done, you sit down and you're like, "Okay. I told myself I was going to publish every single day. I literally didn't. I did it two days this week or I did it once, that sucks, but next week I'm going to recommit. I'm going to do better." You look back at your calendar and you say, "Okay, I'm going to recommit, I'm going to do better this time." You rebuild it out, okay, now we're going to do it. And that becomes the next thing. And then next week you come back and you look at your calendar, "How'd I do? Well, I did three days this week, but I didn't do the seven like I promised myself, okay, that's all right. I'm going to recommit and start over again." And you keep looking at it. Every week you make the adjustments like, how did I do on my times? How am I feeling? Did I do enough stuff? Did I not do enough stuff? What do I need to tweak?

Every seven days you have the chance to rebuild, come back and refix that the thing and just keep going and keep doing that consistently, what's going to happen is the first week, you're not going to see many changes. Within a month you may start feeling some things, within 6 months, within in a year, within 5 years, within 10 years, your destiny will be different. That's the key. So anyway, I wish I could do this with the work sheets and handouts with you guys because it'd be more impactful, but I wanted to show you guys that because that's how I set my goals. It's not just a lofty goal, right? "Russell, what are your goals?" "These are my goals." They're like, "Cool, how are you going to achieve them?" Okay. Well, it's more than that. It's like, hey, what's my goal. Why do I want that? And I want to amplify that desire as much as I can, I want to make it emotional so that I feel it, I desire it, I want it.

And then I figure out a guide, I'm not going to go make this stuff on my own. Who's already got this stuff figured out? Who am I going to model? Who's got the framework?/ I'm going to buy it from that person. I'm going to read the book. I'm going to do the thing, whatever I need to do. Build out the sub steps, plug the sub steps into a routine and that routine becomes sacred time, and now I just go do my daily business and I don't miss my sacred time. And if I do that, all of the other things rise back up, right? I do the daily routines that helps me and I'm plugging in everything I've learned from the guide and the daily routines. So I do the daily routines, I'm following the guide, my why gets amplified more and more as I go and eventually I hit my goal. That is the secret. So anyway, I hope it helps you guys.

I don't really about talk a lot about goal setting, things like that in most of my things, but since I had a chance to teach that class, it was just a fun time for me to reflect and think on it and hopefully there's some value for you guys in that as well. So with that said, let me know if you guys want to hear more stuff like this. Normally I just talk marketing, but there's fun stuff that I do as well. Maybe I should share some more of those things with you guys. Anyway, I appreciate you all. Thanks so much for everything.

If you haven't come to Funnel Hacking Live yet, you need to come. We're preparing for it. This year is going to be insane. Tickets are on sale right now. They're selling faster than ever before, which is crazy, probably because it's a hybrid event this year, it's probably the only year we'll do Funnel Hacking Live hybrid where it's virtual and in-person, but make sure you get your tickets because it's going to be insane. But that's it. Thanks you guys. I appreciate you all and we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 1080 no Cheesy Videos? Or Insanely Effective Hooks... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/cheesy-videos-or-insanely-effective-hooks How and why we’re creating so many hooks, to bring more people into our world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, we're going to talk about cheesy videos, thrown out hooks, and a whole bunch of other fun stuff. All right, all right, everybody. I hope you guys are doing great today. Oh, man. I want to tell you about the fun things I've been doing in my life. Well, let me step back. Okay, so those who have followed the ClickFunnels journey for a long time, you know that we're always trying to figure out different ways to get people to join ClickFunnels and to buy my products and all the things. And it's funny, because I get people all the time who ask me, "Why are you still making so many ads and creating products and writing books, and all these kinds of things?" And, for me, it's a couple of reasons. One is I love what I do. So there's the most important thing. Number two is I feel like the things we're doing help us grab different segments of the market and bring new people into our world, which is exciting. Number three, if you've read the book, Crossing The Chasm, we're at the spot now where we have I think penetrated the early adopters and the innovators in our world, and now we are moving across the chasm to try to get the rest of the world to become funnel hackers and to join this movement that we're so excited and so proud of. And so those are some of the things that are happening. And so number four, I think number four, who knows what number I'm on, number four is I feel like I'm trying to create examples for you guys to model. And so there's a lot of the reasons why I do it, and that's one of them. So one of the things we did a few years ago was we hired the Harmon Brothers. You guys know they did Squatty Potty and Fiber Fix, and some of the most amazing viral videos of all times. So they've done I think four or five. Anyway, They did a bunch of videos for us that have gone viral that have been really good, that were really, really fun. And last year, I actually was watching Kaelin Poulin. Those who know Kaelin, AKA the LadyBoss, she grew up in our world doing a lot of our stuff. And it was interesting because about a year ago or so, she started doing these videos and they were like viral videos, but instead of typically the Harmon Brothers style video, they hire actors and actresses and everything, instead Kaelin was the actress in each of the videos. And they were scripted out and they were funny, and I watched these videos that she was rolling out and they were so cool and I was so excited by it. And I messaged her a couple months later just to see how they were going, and I can't remember the numbers, the number I remember my head which could be completely wrong was 6X. She was like, "This has grown our company 6X, these new videos." And I got excited. I was like, "I want to do that, make funny videos." But I'm the person in it as opposed to hiring actors and stuff, but I didn't have the time or the bandwidth. My team, we have a million things happening. And so it's cool though, there's another company that's competitors to Harmon Brothers, but their business model's a little different. Instead of doing one highly produced video that costs $1 million, they do a whole bunch of smaller videos. And so the guy that owns it, his name is Travis Chambers. He lives here in Boise, and so messaged him, because I was like, "If I could do these videos and not have to leave Boise, that'd be amazing." And so we ended up working out a deal, and basically we're doing 12 videos with them where each month we launch a new video and they're fun. So they do all the scripting. I told him, I'm like, "I don't want to think. I just want to show up, film stuff, go home, and then a month later the videos launch and I'm not involved in the process of it." And so it's been fun because their team goes and they do the writing, they do all the things, and I show up and I them. And so some of you guys have probably seen some of the videos. The first one was me with a Coke and a Mentos bottle and a kitchen in an Airbnb we had rented showing if you put a Mentos in a Coke and it explodes and trying to catch all the Coke in a bottle. And the first time, it didn't work. Second time, we put a funnel and it works and you catch way more. And so it's this video, and it's me acting. I know. If some of you are watching it, you've seen me like, "This is cringe-worthy, Russell. You should not be acting." I'm like, "I know, I'm not an actor." But that was the first one we did. Next one we did, it was this lemonade stand scene, which was really funny. We blew things up, and it's hard for me to go back and watch these, I'm like, "Oh, it's so painful for me to watch myself act. It's so embarrassing." Then we did a Mission Impossible theme where they strapped me to a harness and I was drop from the ceiling. Then we did a first person shooter one, which is really fun. And yesterday we filmed the one that was an angel and the devil where I was the angel and I was the devil on a dude's shoulder trying to convince him to use ClickFunnels. And then today we're filming one for the Five Day Lead Challenge with lead magnets and a bunch of other stuff. And anyway, it's just fun. So every other month, we go and spend two days, we knock out two videos, and then we're doing 12 of them. Basically, we're launching one a month. So we're putting these things out there. And it's funny because I guarantee some people, especially I'm sure my competitors, are like, "Russell, you're such a dork. Why are you doing this? It's so embarrassing? Why are you putting yourself out there?" And I'm doing it for a couple reasons, and most of them were the same reasons I talked about earlier. I'm legitimately proud of what we do, and my job, if you've read the Traffic Secrets book, is to create hooks, to grab people's attention so I can tell them my story so then we can make them an offer. And so all these things are just different hooks. Me dropping from the ceiling to get people to OFA challenge is the hook. Me being an angel and a devil and acting horribly, because I'm not a good actor, is a hook to get somebody to stop the scroll so I can tell them my story, so I can bring them into our world. And all these things are that way. So I'm telling you guys this because I know some of you guys aren't making ads because you're embarrassed. "Oh, I look stupid. I'm not funny. I'm not blah, blah, blah," whatever the insert excuse here. Some of you guys are doing it because you don't know how to act or you don't feel comfortable on camera. Do you think I feel comfortable on camera doing these things.? No, I don't not, even a little bit. It's so awkward for me. They were making me do these voices that were so embarrassing. I watched the video afterwards, it's all super cringe-y. But then it launches and, oh my gosh, it grabs people's attention. It stops the scroll and it's bringing new blood into my world. And so that's why I do it, because it's the way I reach more people, it's new hooks to throw out there. It's new creative putting out there all the time. The more creative you put out, the more people you can grab, the more attention you can get. And so that's one of the big reasons. Number two is I'm trying to model for you guys what's working. You look at Kaelin's videos, and if you haven't, go follow their fan page and watch her videos. They are killing it with it. And she's a better actress than me by far. Her videos, I mean, come on now, she's just great at what she does. I'm the dorky version trying to be cool like her, and I'm not as cool as her, but they still work. And so it's modeling, "Why is Russell doing this? This is goofy." Instead of being, "Why is he making these goofy videos?" it's like, "Huh, maybe there's something behind these. Maybe I should try to make something like that. How can I have some fun with it?" I remember when we first started thinking about how do we throw more hooks out there? Dean Grasiozi was the one I was following at the time, and he was putting out so many videos. He was doing magic trick videos. He was doing him and his daughter's soccer game videos. He was doing thing after thing after thing, and I was like, "I need to put out more hooks. I don't even know what to do." And it was hard for me. And so by hiring somebody and putting it in a process, it's something where it's forcing me to put out these hooks way more often. And so, anyways, hopefully, again, I know a lot of you guys, you go and you buy the book, you buy the course, and you hear me talk about throwing out all these hooks. Yes. That's a big part of it, but that's not the full point of it. The full point isn't for me just to tell you about getting hooks. It's for me to actually do it so you can see me and be like, "Oh, that's what Russell's talking about. He actually practices what he preaches. Unlike most of the gurus who just talk about something, Russell's actually doing this. Let's model what he's actually doing anyway." Anyway, so I'm sure if you've seen the videos, that's what they are. If you haven't seen him yet, I'm sure you will see them and they will keep popping up and you'll be like, "Man, that Russell Brunson, he's the hardest working man in this industry. He cares more about this craft than anybody because he's willing to embarrass himself and put out all these hooks." And it's true, because I love what I do. I love my message. I love the people that we're serving. And so I'm willing to be uncomfortable and be goofy to get their attention. It's interesting. I remember hearing, I can't remember who it was, but this is probably a decade ago or something, I was studying, I wasn't studying acting, but I was studying actors who were successful, and I remember reading a quote from somebody saying, "If you realized how to be a good actor, you do things that make you feel so uncomfortable then on camera seem normal." And I remember hearing that and I was like, "Oh, weird." And I remember the very first time I was trying to get PR, oh excuse me, I tried to do an infomercial. That was the first time. I tried to do infomercial and I remember my host came on and he was interviewing me on the infomercial and after the first take or so he stopped. He's like, "All right, this is the deal." He's like, "If you talk normal, you sound like you're dead on TV." He's like, "You have to be up like this and super excited and then you sound normal on TV." And so he said, "That's the energy you have to have, it's way up here, to be able to sound normal." And so he kept training me and forcing me to do these things that stretch, that made me feel uncomfortable. He's like, "Take it to the level 10, level 12, level 15," wherever it is. And then he's like, "Now you seem normal." And sure enough, when we watched the infomercial back, I was like, "Oh, it actually doesn't sound goofy. It sounds normal. Whereas if I sounded normal, it sounds like I'm dead." And that was just a big a-ha. Same thing when I did media training before I tried to do my PR the very first time. You've got to grab someone's attention. If you talk like you normally do, nobody's going to pay attention, you're not going to get people's attention. And that was 18 years ago, 15 years ago, whenever it was. Nowadays, it's way harder. How many ads do you swipe through on Facebook or Instagram every single day? How many times has somebody heard about Dotcom Secrets or Expert Secrets or ClickFunnels or One Funnel Away Challenge, and they even ignored it until they saw me dropping from the ceiling like Ethan Hunt in Mission Impossible, or until he saw Shoulder Angel Russell fighting with Shoulder Devil Russell. And then all of sudden, they're like, "Wait. What?" And they watch it and they're like, "Okay, I've got to try this thing out." What's the hook that's going to finally get the person's attention? You don't know until you go out there and do it, and do it, and do it. So anyway, that's why. That's the purpose. I hope that it helps. With that said, I'm going to get cleaned up, because in one hour they're picking me up for my next video. This one's going to be goofy too. Not as goofy as yesterday's. Yesterday's, I'm actually really excited for the shoulder angel and shoulder devil one. But today's is one for our Five Day Lead Challenge. Like I said, every single month, we're picking a new video to do and trying new hooks. Some hooks will work, some won't, but you don't know until you throw them out there. So that said, you guys, get back to work. Go make some more hooks. Make some more videos. Throw it out there. Get your audience's attention and try to change the world in your own little way. Thanks again, and I will talk to you guys all again soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Mar 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Cheesy Videos? Or Insanely Effective Hooks... full 393 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How and why we’re creating so many hooks, to bring more people into our world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the... How and why we’re creating so many hooks, to bring more people into our world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, we're going to talk about cheesy videos, thrown out hooks, and a whole bunch of other fun stuff. All right, all right, everybody. I hope you guys are doing great today. Oh, man. I want to tell you about the fun things I've been doing in my life. Well, let me step back. Okay, so those who have followed the ClickFunnels journey for a long time, you know that we're always trying to figure out different ways to get people to join ClickFunnels and to buy my products and all the things. And it's funny, because I get people all the time who ask me, "Why are you still making so many ads and creating products and writing books, and all these kinds of things?" And, for me, it's a couple of reasons. One is I love what I do. So there's the most important thing. Number two is I feel like the things we're doing help us grab different segments of the market and bring new people into our world, which is exciting. Number three, if you've read the book, Crossing The Chasm, we're at the spot now where we have I think penetrated the early adopters and the innovators in our world, and now we are moving across the chasm to try to get the rest of the world to become funnel hackers and to join this movement that we're so excited and so proud of. And so those are some of the things that are happening. And so number four, I think number four, who knows what number I'm on, number four is I feel like I'm trying to create examples for you guys to model. And so there's a lot of the reasons why I do it, and that's one of them. So one of the things we did a few years ago was we hired the Harmon Brothers. You guys know they did Squatty Potty and Fiber Fix, and some of the most amazing viral videos of all times. So they've done I think four or five. Anyway, They did a bunch of videos for us that have gone viral that have been really good, that were really, really fun. And last year, I actually was watching Kaelin Poulin. Those who know Kaelin, AKA the LadyBoss, she grew up in our world doing a lot of our stuff. And it was interesting because about a year ago or so, she started doing these videos and they were like viral videos, but instead of typically the Harmon Brothers style video, they hire actors and actresses and everything, instead Kaelin was the actress in each of the videos. And they were scripted out and they were funny, and I watched these videos that she was rolling out and they were so cool and I was so excited by it. And I messaged her a couple months later just to see how they were going, and I can't remember the numbers, the number I remember my head which could be completely wrong was 6X. She was like, "This has grown our company 6X, these new videos." And I got excited. I was like, "I want to do that, make funny videos." But I'm the person in it as opposed to hiring actors and stuff, but I didn't have the time or the bandwidth. My team, we have a million things happening. And so it's cool though, there's another company that's competitors to Harmon Brothers, but their business model's a little different. Instead of doing one highly produced video that costs $1 million, they do a whole bunch of smaller videos. And so the guy that owns it, his name is Travis Chambers. He lives here in Boise, and so messaged him, because I was like, "If I could do these videos and not have to leave Boise, that'd be amazing." And so we ended up working out a deal, and basically we're doing 12 videos with them where each month we launch a new video and they're fun. So they do all the scripting. I told him, I'm like, "I don't want to think. I just want to show up, film stuff, go home, and then a month later the videos launch and I'm not involved in the process of it." And so it's been fun because their team goes and they do the writing, they do all the things, and I show up and I them. And so some of you guys have probably seen some of the videos. The first one was me with a Coke and a Mentos bottle and a kitchen in an Airbnb we had rented showing if you put a Mentos in a Coke and it explodes and trying to catch all the Coke in a bottle. And the first time, it didn't work. Second time, we put a funnel and it works and you catch way more. And so it's this video, and it's me acting. I know. If some of you are watching it, you've seen me like, "This is cringe-worthy, Russell. You should not be acting." I'm like, "I know, I'm not an actor." But that was the first one we did. Next one we did, it was this lemonade stand scene, which was really funny. We blew things up, and it's hard for me to go back and watch these, I'm like, "Oh, it's so painful for me to watch myself act. It's so embarrassing." Then we did a Mission Impossible theme where they strapped me to a harness and I was drop from the ceiling. Then we did a first person shooter one, which is really fun. And yesterday we filmed the one that was an angel and the devil where I was the angel and I was the devil on a dude's shoulder trying to convince him to use ClickFunnels. And then today we're filming one for the Five Day Lead Challenge with lead magnets and a bunch of other stuff. And anyway, it's just fun. So every other month, we go and spend two days, we knock out two videos, and then we're doing 12 of them. Basically, we're launching one a month. So we're putting these things out there. And it's funny because I guarantee some people, especially I'm sure my competitors, are like, "Russell, you're such a dork. Why are you doing this? It's so embarrassing? Why are you putting yourself out there?" And I'm doing it for a couple reasons, and most of them were the same reasons I talked about earlier. I'm legitimately proud of what we do, and my job, if you've read the Traffic Secrets book, is to create hooks, to grab people's attention so I can tell them my story so then we can make them an offer. And so all these things are just different hooks. Me dropping from the ceiling to get people to OFA challenge is the hook. Me being an angel and a devil and acting horribly, because I'm not a good actor, is a hook to get somebody to stop the scroll so I can tell them my story, so I can bring them into our world. And all these things are that way. So I'm telling you guys this because I know some of you guys aren't making ads because you're embarrassed. "Oh, I look stupid. I'm not funny. I'm not blah, blah, blah," whatever the insert excuse here. Some of you guys are doing it because you don't know how to act or you don't feel comfortable on camera. Do you think I feel comfortable on camera doing these things.? No, I don't not, even a little bit. It's so awkward for me. They were making me do these voices that were so embarrassing. I watched the video afterwards, it's all super cringe-y. But then it launches and, oh my gosh, it grabs people's attention. It stops the scroll and it's bringing new blood into my world. And so that's why I do it, because it's the way I reach more people, it's new hooks to throw out there. It's new creative putting out there all the time. The more creative you put out, the more people you can grab, the more attention you can get. And so that's one of the big reasons. Number two is I'm trying to model for you guys what's working. You look at Kaelin's videos, and if you haven't, go follow their fan page and watch her videos. They are killing it with it. And she's a better actress than me by far. Her videos, I mean, come on now, she's just great at what she does. I'm the dorky version trying to be cool like her, and I'm not as cool as her, but they still work. And so it's modeling, "Why is Russell doing this? This is goofy." Instead of being, "Why is he making these goofy videos?" it's like, "Huh, maybe there's something behind these. Maybe I should try to make something like that. How can I have some fun with it?" I remember when we first started thinking about how do we throw more hooks out there? Dean Grasiozi was the one I was following at the time, and he was putting out so many videos. He was doing magic trick videos. He was doing him and his daughter's soccer game videos. He was doing thing after thing after thing, and I was like, "I need to put out more hooks. I don't even know what to do." And it was hard for me. And so by hiring somebody and putting it in a process, it's something where it's forcing me to put out these hooks way more often. And so, anyways, hopefully, again, I know a lot of you guys, you go and you buy the book, you buy the course, and you hear me talk about throwing out all these hooks. Yes. That's a big part of it, but that's not the full point of it. The full point isn't for me just to tell you about getting hooks. It's for me to actually do it so you can see me and be like, "Oh, that's what Russell's talking about. He actually practices what he preaches. Unlike most of the gurus who just talk about something, Russell's actually doing this. Let's model what he's actually doing anyway." Anyway, so I'm sure if you've seen the videos, that's what they are. If you haven't seen him yet, I'm sure you will see them and they will keep popping up and you'll be like, "Man, that Russell Brunson, he's the hardest working man in this industry. He cares more about this craft than anybody because he's willing to embarrass himself and put out all these hooks." And it's true, because I love what I do. I love my message. I love the people that we're serving. And so I'm willing to be uncomfortable and be goofy to get their attention. It's interesting. I remember hearing, I can't remember who it was, but this is probably a decade ago or something, I was studying, I wasn't studying acting, but I was studying actors who were successful, and I remember reading a quote from somebody saying, "If you realized how to be a good actor, you do things that make you feel so uncomfortable then on camera seem normal." And I remember hearing that and I was like, "Oh, weird." And I remember the very first time I was trying to get PR, oh excuse me, I tried to do an infomercial. That was the first time. I tried to do infomercial and I remember my host came on and he was interviewing me on the infomercial and after the first take or so he stopped. He's like, "All right, this is the deal." He's like, "If you talk normal, you sound like you're dead on TV." He's like, "You have to be up like this and super excited and then you sound normal on TV." And so he said, "That's the energy you have to have, it's way up here, to be able to sound normal." And so he kept training me and forcing me to do these things that stretch, that made me feel uncomfortable. He's like, "Take it to the level 10, level 12, level 15," wherever it is. And then he's like, "Now you seem normal." And sure enough, when we watched the infomercial back, I was like, "Oh, it actually doesn't sound goofy. It sounds normal. Whereas if I sounded normal, it sounds like I'm dead." And that was just a big a-ha. Same thing when I did media training before I tried to do my PR the very first time. You've got to grab someone's attention. If you talk like you normally do, nobody's going to pay attention, you're not going to get people's attention. And that was 18 years ago, 15 years ago, whenever it was. Nowadays, it's way harder. How many ads do you swipe through on Facebook or Instagram every single day? How many times has somebody heard about Dotcom Secrets or Expert Secrets or ClickFunnels or One Funnel Away Challenge, and they even ignored it until they saw me dropping from the ceiling like Ethan Hunt in Mission Impossible, or until he saw Shoulder Angel Russell fighting with Shoulder Devil Russell. And then all of sudden, they're like, "Wait. What?" And they watch it and they're like, "Okay, I've got to try this thing out." What's the hook that's going to finally get the person's attention? You don't know until you go out there and do it, and do it, and do it. So anyway, that's why. That's the purpose. I hope that it helps. With that said, I'm going to get cleaned up, because in one hour they're picking me up for my next video. This one's going to be goofy too. Not as goofy as yesterday's. Yesterday's, I'm actually really excited for the shoulder angel and shoulder devil one. But today's is one for our Five Day Lead Challenge. Like I said, every single month, we're picking a new video to do and trying new hooks. Some hooks will work, some won't, but you don't know until you throw them out there. So that said, you guys, get back to work. Go make some more hooks. Make some more videos. Throw it out there. Get your audience's attention and try to change the world in your own little way. Thanks again, and I will talk to you guys all again soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How and why we’re creating so many hooks, to bring more people into our world.

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---Transcript---

What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, we're going to talk about cheesy videos, thrown out hooks, and a whole bunch of other fun stuff. All right, all right, everybody. I hope you guys are doing great today. Oh, man. I want to tell you about the fun things I've been doing in my life. Well, let me step back. Okay, so those who have followed the ClickFunnels journey for a long time, you know that we're always trying to figure out different ways to get people to join ClickFunnels and to buy my products and all the things. And it's funny, because I get people all the time who ask me, "Why are you still making so many ads and creating products and writing books, and all these kinds of things?" And, for me, it's a couple of reasons.

One is I love what I do. So there's the most important thing. Number two is I feel like the things we're doing help us grab different segments of the market and bring new people into our world, which is exciting. Number three, if you've read the book, Crossing The Chasm, we're at the spot now where we have I think penetrated the early adopters and the innovators in our world, and now we are moving across the chasm to try to get the rest of the world to become funnel hackers and to join this movement that we're so excited and so proud of. And so those are some of the things that are happening. And so number four, I think number four, who knows what number I'm on, number four is I feel like I'm trying to create examples for you guys to model. And so there's a lot of the reasons why I do it, and that's one of them.

So one of the things we did a few years ago was we hired the Harmon Brothers. You guys know they did Squatty Potty and Fiber Fix, and some of the most amazing viral videos of all times. So they've done I think four or five. Anyway, They did a bunch of videos for us that have gone viral that have been really good, that were really, really fun. And last year, I actually was watching Kaelin Poulin. Those who know Kaelin, AKA the LadyBoss, she grew up in our world doing a lot of our stuff. And it was interesting because about a year ago or so, she started doing these videos and they were like viral videos, but instead of typically the Harmon Brothers style video, they hire actors and actresses and everything, instead Kaelin was the actress in each of the videos.

And they were scripted out and they were funny, and I watched these videos that she was rolling out and they were so cool and I was so excited by it. And I messaged her a couple months later just to see how they were going, and I can't remember the numbers, the number I remember my head which could be completely wrong was 6X. She was like, "This has grown our company 6X, these new videos." And I got excited. I was like, "I want to do that, make funny videos." But I'm the person in it as opposed to hiring actors and stuff, but I didn't have the time or the bandwidth. My team, we have a million things happening. And so it's cool though, there's another company that's competitors to Harmon Brothers, but their business model's a little different. Instead of doing one highly produced video that costs $1 million, they do a whole bunch of smaller videos.

And so the guy that owns it, his name is Travis Chambers. He lives here in Boise, and so messaged him, because I was like, "If I could do these videos and not have to leave Boise, that'd be amazing." And so we ended up working out a deal, and basically we're doing 12 videos with them where each month we launch a new video and they're fun. So they do all the scripting. I told him, I'm like, "I don't want to think. I just want to show up, film stuff, go home, and then a month later the videos launch and I'm not involved in the process of it." And so it's been fun because their team goes and they do the writing, they do all the things, and I show up and I them. And so some of you guys have probably seen some of the videos. The first one was me with a Coke and a Mentos bottle and a kitchen in an Airbnb we had rented showing if you put a Mentos in a Coke and it explodes and trying to catch all the Coke in a bottle.

And the first time, it didn't work. Second time, we put a funnel and it works and you catch way more. And so it's this video, and it's me acting. I know. If some of you are watching it, you've seen me like, "This is cringe-worthy, Russell. You should not be acting." I'm like, "I know, I'm not an actor." But that was the first one we did. Next one we did, it was this lemonade stand scene, which was really funny. We blew things up, and it's hard for me to go back and watch these, I'm like, "Oh, it's so painful for me to watch myself act. It's so embarrassing." Then we did a Mission Impossible theme where they strapped me to a harness and I was drop from the ceiling. Then we did a first person shooter one, which is really fun. And yesterday we filmed the one that was an angel and the devil where I was the angel and I was the devil on a dude's shoulder trying to convince him to use ClickFunnels.

And then today we're filming one for the Five Day Lead Challenge with lead magnets and a bunch of other stuff. And anyway, it's just fun. So every other month, we go and spend two days, we knock out two videos, and then we're doing 12 of them. Basically, we're launching one a month. So we're putting these things out there. And it's funny because I guarantee some people, especially I'm sure my competitors, are like, "Russell, you're such a dork. Why are you doing this? It's so embarrassing? Why are you putting yourself out there?" And I'm doing it for a couple reasons, and most of them were the same reasons I talked about earlier. I'm legitimately proud of what we do, and my job, if you've read the Traffic Secrets book, is to create hooks, to grab people's attention so I can tell them my story so then we can make them an offer.

And so all these things are just different hooks. Me dropping from the ceiling to get people to OFA challenge is the hook. Me being an angel and a devil and acting horribly, because I'm not a good actor, is a hook to get somebody to stop the scroll so I can tell them my story, so I can bring them into our world. And all these things are that way. So I'm telling you guys this because I know some of you guys aren't making ads because you're embarrassed. "Oh, I look stupid. I'm not funny. I'm not blah, blah, blah," whatever the insert excuse here. Some of you guys are doing it because you don't know how to act or you don't feel comfortable on camera. Do you think I feel comfortable on camera doing these things.? No, I don't not, even a little bit. It's so awkward for me. They were making me do these voices that were so embarrassing. I watched the video afterwards, it's all super cringe-y.

But then it launches and, oh my gosh, it grabs people's attention. It stops the scroll and it's bringing new blood into my world. And so that's why I do it, because it's the way I reach more people, it's new hooks to throw out there. It's new creative putting out there all the time. The more creative you put out, the more people you can grab, the more attention you can get. And so that's one of the big reasons. Number two is I'm trying to model for you guys what's working. You look at Kaelin's videos, and if you haven't, go follow their fan page and watch her videos. They are killing it with it. And she's a better actress than me by far. Her videos, I mean, come on now, she's just great at what she does. I'm the dorky version trying to be cool like her, and I'm not as cool as her, but they still work.

And so it's modeling, "Why is Russell doing this? This is goofy." Instead of being, "Why is he making these goofy videos?" it's like, "Huh, maybe there's something behind these. Maybe I should try to make something like that. How can I have some fun with it?" I remember when we first started thinking about how do we throw more hooks out there? Dean Grasiozi was the one I was following at the time, and he was putting out so many videos. He was doing magic trick videos. He was doing him and his daughter's soccer game videos. He was doing thing after thing after thing, and I was like, "I need to put out more hooks. I don't even know what to do." And it was hard for me. And so by hiring somebody and putting it in a process, it's something where it's forcing me to put out these hooks way more often.

And so, anyways, hopefully, again, I know a lot of you guys, you go and you buy the book, you buy the course, and you hear me talk about throwing out all these hooks. Yes. That's a big part of it, but that's not the full point of it. The full point isn't for me just to tell you about getting hooks. It's for me to actually do it so you can see me and be like, "Oh, that's what Russell's talking about. He actually practices what he preaches. Unlike most of the gurus who just talk about something, Russell's actually doing this. Let's model what he's actually doing anyway." Anyway, so I'm sure if you've seen the videos, that's what they are. If you haven't seen him yet, I'm sure you will see them and they will keep popping up and you'll be like, "Man, that Russell Brunson, he's the hardest working man in this industry. He cares more about this craft than anybody because he's willing to embarrass himself and put out all these hooks."

And it's true, because I love what I do. I love my message. I love the people that we're serving. And so I'm willing to be uncomfortable and be goofy to get their attention. It's interesting. I remember hearing, I can't remember who it was, but this is probably a decade ago or something, I was studying, I wasn't studying acting, but I was studying actors who were successful, and I remember reading a quote from somebody saying, "If you realized how to be a good actor, you do things that make you feel so uncomfortable then on camera seem normal." And I remember hearing that and I was like, "Oh, weird." And I remember the very first time I was trying to get PR, oh excuse me, I tried to do an infomercial. That was the first time. I tried to do infomercial and I remember my host came on and he was interviewing me on the infomercial and after the first take or so he stopped.

He's like, "All right, this is the deal." He's like, "If you talk normal, you sound like you're dead on TV." He's like, "You have to be up like this and super excited and then you sound normal on TV." And so he said, "That's the energy you have to have, it's way up here, to be able to sound normal." And so he kept training me and forcing me to do these things that stretch, that made me feel uncomfortable. He's like, "Take it to the level 10, level 12, level 15," wherever it is. And then he's like, "Now you seem normal." And sure enough, when we watched the infomercial back, I was like, "Oh, it actually doesn't sound goofy. It sounds normal. Whereas if I sounded normal, it sounds like I'm dead." And that was just a big a-ha. Same thing when I did media training before I tried to do my PR the very first time. You've got to grab someone's attention. If you talk like you normally do, nobody's going to pay attention, you're not going to get people's attention.

And that was 18 years ago, 15 years ago, whenever it was. Nowadays, it's way harder. How many ads do you swipe through on Facebook or Instagram every single day? How many times has somebody heard about Dotcom Secrets or Expert Secrets or ClickFunnels or One Funnel Away Challenge, and they even ignored it until they saw me dropping from the ceiling like Ethan Hunt in Mission Impossible, or until he saw Shoulder Angel Russell fighting with Shoulder Devil Russell. And then all of sudden, they're like, "Wait. What?" And they watch it and they're like, "Okay, I've got to try this thing out." What's the hook that's going to finally get the person's attention? You don't know until you go out there and do it, and do it, and do it. So anyway, that's why. That's the purpose. I hope that it helps.

With that said, I'm going to get cleaned up, because in one hour they're picking me up for my next video. This one's going to be goofy too. Not as goofy as yesterday's. Yesterday's, I'm actually really excited for the shoulder angel and shoulder devil one. But today's is one for our Five Day Lead Challenge. Like I said, every single month, we're picking a new video to do and trying new hooks. Some hooks will work, some won't, but you don't know until you throw them out there. So that said, you guys, get back to work. Go make some more hooks. Make some more videos. Throw it out there. Get your audience's attention and try to change the world in your own little way. Thanks again, and I will talk to you guys all again soon.

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]]> 791 no Should I Write A Book?... (Huge Announcement) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/should-i-write-a-book-huge-announcement One of the questions I get a lot is “should I write a book?”. I’m going to tell you what I think, and why I’m starting book #4. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What’s up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. That beep means I need to put my seatbelt on before I drive away. And I am here today to answer the question, should you write a book? Today, something that has been on my mind is this question I get asked a lot, which is, should I write a book? And it's funny because, as you guys know, I've written three books. One of them was a New York Times bestseller. Woohoo! So that's pretty exciting. But it's funny because I never was a writer. I didn't want to be a writer. I hated writing in school. Even to this day, someone asked me, two days ago actually, he said, "Russell, do you like writing books?" I was like, "No, writing books is horrible. It is the most painful process of all time." And so, no, I do not like to write books, yet I've written three, and I'm probably going to write more. And people ask, "Well, why would you do that?" I'm like, "Well, it's the most painful process part of all the things I do." It's the hardest thing to do, but at the same time, it's also the thing that live the longest, that lives beyond yourself, that lasts, especially if you write a book that matters. I know there's a lot of people who teach how to write a book really fast, and I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about should you write a book that's going to be your legacy, the thing that people are going to remember you by? And a couple of things, I remember when I first got started, it was about 18 years ago, I remember going to events where people were selling the dream of, "You need to write a book. It's going to give you credibility," all these things. And so I put it in my head, I want to write a book. But I didn't for almost 10 years. But I remember when I started, I was like, "I'm going to write a book. It's going to be called Dot Com Secrets, because I don't know why. I just love that name." A lot of people told me they hated it. In fact, Jeff, Walker was like, "It's the worst name of a book ever." But whatever, I still like it. So anyway, I decided I'm going to write a book. I remember there was something cool about just in my head knowing that I'm writing a book. Even though I hadn't actually written anything, I just was like, "Okay, well, what's the outline? What's the table of contents? What's it going to look like? What should I write?" I started brainstorming it. But there was something when I flipped the switch to I was writing a book that just became exciting. I don't know. And I remember after I got done and I was like, "This is so hard. I'll never write a book again." But then when I decided I'm going to read Expert Secrets, there was something magical. I don't know. Maybe it's the romance of being an author and writing, and I don't know all that stuff, but there was something magical where I was like, "I'm writing again," and I got in that fun stage. And the same thing with Traffic Secrets, the romance. And I remember after each book, I was like, "I'll never write a book again. I'll never write a book again." But about the time that I got done the Expert Secrets book, I was hanging out with Brendan Bouchard. He's written, I don't know, a ton of books. And I remember he told me, he's like, "No, you're an author." He's like, "You just write a book every two years. That's just how it works. For the rest of your life, you should do that." And I was like, "Huh, interesting." And it took me a while, I'm not going to lie. Almost until I decided to do Traffic Secrets. After that, I was like, "All right, I'm going to do that. That's going to be a thing where I'm going to read a book every two years for the rest of my life." And so when Traffic Secrets got to the end, I was burned out because it was a brutal one. Plus, as some of you know, after finishing Traffic Secrets, I went back and I rewrote Dotcom Secrets and I rewrote Expert Secrets. So that was a season of too many words, hundreds of thousands of words. And I was just like, "I don't know if I can keep doing it." It was hard. So I haven't written anything in, it's been over a year. Holy cow. Weird. Yeah, because basically 2020 happened. We blinked and 2020 happened, and now we're back right now it's February of 2021, and I haven't written anything. So it's been over a year. It was just crazy. Anyway, I tell you this because I knew my next book what I want it to be, and I've told you guys on this podcast it's called Bootstrap. This is going to be the ClickFunnels story. And I'm excited. The problem is I also know, to write that book, it's going to be big and overwhelming and there's a lot that goes into it. And while I've started the process of it, I just know it's probably a two to three year project, if I'm honest with myself, because I have to learn how to write it a different style. It's not a how to book. It's like a storybook. And I want to sync it to The Hero With A Thousand Faces and all these story arcs. I interview 1000 people because I want to get everybody's perspective. I don't want to tell the story from my perspective. I want to tell it from everybody's perspective. And so that's one that's big. Plus, I don't have an ending to the story yet. What's the ending of the story? "And then we were happy." No, it's got to be awesome. "And then we went public," or, "Then we whatever," something cool. So I'm still waiting for the ending of the story. So it was hard to write the beginning if you don't know the ending and I'm hoping the book's not going to be a tragedy. I don't think it will be, but you never know. I don't know. I don't have a full picture, so I can't write that one yet. Although, I do know that is my legacy project of like telling the ClickFunnels story and how we did it all kind of stuff. So I sit back and I know that I have a lot of friends that have written personal development books. I've never wanted to do a personal development book, but there's something that, man, for almost probably nine or 10 months now it's been in my thoughts and I keep thinking about it, keep thinking about it, keep thinking about it. And yesterday I was like, "What if I just wrote that book first?" And then I was like, "Huh? It'd be a lot easier to write. I could get it done. We could launch it next year. It could be out in the world." But is it worth writing? I don't want to write a book just to write a book. A lot of people just write a book because, "Oh, I need a book." I want to write a book that's going to change people. That 500 years now people will reference it. That's the kind of book I want to write. So it's just like, can I make this something that's amazing, that's different, that's unique, that's not the same conversation, but it's a different conversation that'll inspire and help people for a long time? And so that's been the questions going through my head. And recently I figured out the title of it, and then I bought the domain, which was not cheap. So I bought the domain for it. And then it was, "Okay, this could be a thing." So yesterday I reached out to somebody who I know who actually designed the very first Dot Com Secrets book covers. He's name is Rob Secades. And I was like, "Rob, I'm thinking about writing a book. Do you want to design the cover for me?" And he got all excited. I got all excited. I'm like, "Ah!" So now he's designing the cover of the book. And now officially, as soon as that conversation ended, in my head, I was like, "I'm writing a book. I haven't even told my wife about it yet." Gosh, she's going to freak out. I almost want to not tell her and then just be like, "Hey, it's done," when it's done, because she knows the pain that I go through to write a book. But that got me excited, and then I emailed our publisher and was like, "Hey, if I wrote a book on this, would you be interested?" And this morning I got emailed back and he's like, "Heck yeah, that'd be amazing." He was freaking out and, "Let's do this thing," And he's like, "To hit the dates you want to sell this thing by here's when we have to have the manuscript back and everything." And I was like, "Oh," and now I'm sitting in my car, out front of the office excited because officially the switch has been turned on. I'm writing my next book and I'm not going to tell you what it is yet. But I do want to tell you that there's this weird energy that comes with it. And so to come back to the question initially for you guys, which is, should you write a book? The answer is a deafening yes. You should write a book. Same questions, well, when should I start writing it? I would propose you start writing it today. You've just got to flip the switch. When you start flipping the switch, these last 24 hours, my mind has been trying to figure out, what's this book? What's it look like? What's the outline? What's unique? What's different? What's the frameworks we're going to use? The swirling in your head, in your mind, and all these things, I'm like, "Oh, it's amazing." So if I was you, I would commit, "I'm going to write a book." And you don't have to write today, and maybe you hate writing, and that's okay. But just, "I'm going to write a book." And if you're like, "What's the title going to be?" And then I would hire someone to go create the book cover, because for me at least I can't design a site until I've got a logo. I don't know. I'm very visual that way. But I see a book cover and it's like, "Oh my gosh, I can see the tangible thing that people will be holding in their hands someday to make this real." And then your mind will start looking for the answers like, "Okay, what is this going to look like? What's page one? What's the first section? What's the second section? What's chapter one, two, three? Where do I want to take people? What's the mission of this book? What's the goal? All those things. Maybe somebody I'll write a whole course on how to write a book because that could be a fun thing too. But for now, I just want you think about that. If you start, you'll start opening your mind to the ideas. And even if it takes you 10 years to write a book, that's okay. But now you're putting things down. I remember Matt Fury told me one time, he's like, "If you wake up every morning and you write two pages a day," he's like, "that's 700 and whatever pages a year." He's like, "That's three books a year." So even if you say, I’m just going to write one page a day. If you wrote one page a day, that’s 365. That's a big book. It gives you tons of time to take weekends off and whatever. But if you wake up and say, "Everyday, I'm going to write one page a day," if you do that consistently, within eight, nine months, you've got a book done, which is exciting. And there's something magical in the romance of just saying, "Hey, what are you up to you?" "I'm writing a book." "What? You are?" "Yeah. I'm writing a book," which is crazy exciting. So anyway, I just want to put that out there. I do think everyone should read a book. I think one of our missions for all of us on this earth is to come down to this earth and we have an opportunity to help other people. You've heard me talk about this a lot. I believe that entrepreneurship is all of us has been called to serve a group of people. So the first part is identifying who are the people I've been called to serve, and then you find them and say, "How do I serve?" And you start looking through those things. And then I feel like one of our other role roles is, we're going through this life experience, we're learning all these things, and we're having experiences and tests and trials and problems and reading books, we're studying things, and I think part of our job is to curate your learning. It's like all the stuff you experience in this life, we should be curating those things. And you can be curating for yourself, for your spouse, for your kids, for your kids' kids, for your grandkids, the people you've been called to serve, whatever it is. We've all been here given our own unique minds, our own brains, our own experiences, and I think so many times we go through life and experience stuff, which gives us growth, but then we never actually leave anything behind to contribute to the next set of people, the people after us who were coming, who are like, I'm on the earth now. Does anyone got a playbook for how to navigate this?" And so all the growth that you went through, all the things you learn, all the things you experience, like all this stuff, if you don't leave a playbook behind for somebody else, oh, what a tragedy. If you look at, and I'm going to talk about this in my new book, by the way, but one of my favorite principles from Tony Robbins is the six human needs. And there's the needs of the body and the needs of the spirit, and I'm going to go deep into it right now, but there's four needs of the body and there's two needs of the spirit. And the two needs of the spirit are growth, number one, and then contribution. I think most people here on this earth get to the spot where you figure out the needs of the body and then you can move to the next tier, and now you start focusing on growth, which is your personal development. I think so many people go through that, and it's amazing. But then the most fulfilling, the last step in this process, is contribution, which is now you're leaving something behind. How do you contribute to other people? All the growth you've gone through, what's the purpose of it? And if you don't leave something behind, then so much of the things you went through is in vain, because it only affected you. And so I want to argue that at that as much as I love the romance of writing a book, I think a bigger part is you creating this thing that gives you the ability to contribute your life's lessons back. And so I'm excited for this new book for me, because it's not that I know the answers to these questions, but it's been a question that I've been chasing for the last decade. And I think that I've gotten further to the answer than most people who have had a chance to be on this planet yet I think it's something that everyone who's been on this planet should understand. If I can give you a treasure map that gets you there faster, it'd be a disservice if I didn't. And so that's why I'm writing this next book, and I'm pumped and I'm excited. And I hope that, first off, you're excited for the book. I'm not going to tell you the title or the name or anything. I just want you to freak out with me a little bit. Ah, freak out. But more importantly, because I think if I told you the title and all stuff it would distract from what I want you to think about, which is yourself, which is like all the growth you're going through right now, what's the contribution you're going to leave behind? And so think about that, okay, based on that, I'm going to write a book. And it may be a decade process, but I'm going to start the process so I can tell people, if they to ask me, "What are you doing?" "I'm writing a book?" "What? How cool is that?" I'm like, "What are you doing?" "Nothing." "How you feeling?" "Okay." If they're not doing anything, they're not creating anything, so it's like, most people's lives are so boring and static and just like, blah. But we're creators, we're entrepreneurs. We're the crazy ones. We need to be creating or else we're dying. And so just that process of somebody asking, "What are you doing?" "I'm writing a book." "Really? You're writing a book? What's it about? Tell me about it." It opens up this excitement and this energy and gets your mind spinning, and there's so many cool, exciting things for you. So should you write a book? The answer is, yes. You've gone through too much to not share it with the people you love. Even if nobody reads it, maybe one person reads it, would it be worth it? Yeah. If one person can learn from the things that you experienced and that can change their life, it was totally worth you documenting the process and turning it into a manual, even if it’s for that one person. And if you follow the process I teach you guys with the free plus shipping funnels and all that kind of stuff, you can get into a lot more people's hands and hopefully help thousands or tens of thousands or millions or more. And that ripple effect will be because you decided to contribute, which is exciting. So, all right, that's all I got. I'm out for the day. I'm going to go start outlining my new book. So excited. Appreciate you guys for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, if you're writing a book, take a snapshot on your phone of this. You just push the two phone buttons. Boom. It takes a picture. Post that picture up to Instagram or Facebook or any of the other social platforms that you chill on. And tag me and tell me that you're committed to writing a book. I'd love to see it. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening and I'll talk to y'all soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 01 Mar 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Should I Write A Book?... (Huge Announcement) full 392 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of the questions I get a lot is “should I write a book?”. I’m going to tell you what I think, and why I’m starting book #4. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What’s up,... One of the questions I get a lot is “should I write a book?”. I’m going to tell you what I think, and why I’m starting book #4. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What’s up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. That beep means I need to put my seatbelt on before I drive away. And I am here today to answer the question, should you write a book? Today, something that has been on my mind is this question I get asked a lot, which is, should I write a book? And it's funny because, as you guys know, I've written three books. One of them was a New York Times bestseller. Woohoo! So that's pretty exciting. But it's funny because I never was a writer. I didn't want to be a writer. I hated writing in school. Even to this day, someone asked me, two days ago actually, he said, "Russell, do you like writing books?" I was like, "No, writing books is horrible. It is the most painful process of all time." And so, no, I do not like to write books, yet I've written three, and I'm probably going to write more. And people ask, "Well, why would you do that?" I'm like, "Well, it's the most painful process part of all the things I do." It's the hardest thing to do, but at the same time, it's also the thing that live the longest, that lives beyond yourself, that lasts, especially if you write a book that matters. I know there's a lot of people who teach how to write a book really fast, and I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about should you write a book that's going to be your legacy, the thing that people are going to remember you by? And a couple of things, I remember when I first got started, it was about 18 years ago, I remember going to events where people were selling the dream of, "You need to write a book. It's going to give you credibility," all these things. And so I put it in my head, I want to write a book. But I didn't for almost 10 years. But I remember when I started, I was like, "I'm going to write a book. It's going to be called Dot Com Secrets, because I don't know why. I just love that name." A lot of people told me they hated it. In fact, Jeff, Walker was like, "It's the worst name of a book ever." But whatever, I still like it. So anyway, I decided I'm going to write a book. I remember there was something cool about just in my head knowing that I'm writing a book. Even though I hadn't actually written anything, I just was like, "Okay, well, what's the outline? What's the table of contents? What's it going to look like? What should I write?" I started brainstorming it. But there was something when I flipped the switch to I was writing a book that just became exciting. I don't know. And I remember after I got done and I was like, "This is so hard. I'll never write a book again." But then when I decided I'm going to read Expert Secrets, there was something magical. I don't know. Maybe it's the romance of being an author and writing, and I don't know all that stuff, but there was something magical where I was like, "I'm writing again," and I got in that fun stage. And the same thing with Traffic Secrets, the romance. And I remember after each book, I was like, "I'll never write a book again. I'll never write a book again." But about the time that I got done the Expert Secrets book, I was hanging out with Brendan Bouchard. He's written, I don't know, a ton of books. And I remember he told me, he's like, "No, you're an author." He's like, "You just write a book every two years. That's just how it works. For the rest of your life, you should do that." And I was like, "Huh, interesting." And it took me a while, I'm not going to lie. Almost until I decided to do Traffic Secrets. After that, I was like, "All right, I'm going to do that. That's going to be a thing where I'm going to read a book every two years for the rest of my life." And so when Traffic Secrets got to the end, I was burned out because it was a brutal one. Plus, as some of you know, after finishing Traffic Secrets, I went back and I rewrote Dotcom Secrets and I rewrote Expert Secrets. So that was a season of too many words, hundreds of thousands of words. And I was just like, "I don't know if I can keep doing it." It was hard. So I haven't written anything in, it's been over a year. Holy cow. Weird. Yeah, because basically 2020 happened. We blinked and 2020 happened, and now we're back right now it's February of 2021, and I haven't written anything. So it's been over a year. It was just crazy. Anyway, I tell you this because I knew my next book what I want it to be, and I've told you guys on this podcast it's called Bootstrap. This is going to be the ClickFunnels story. And I'm excited. The problem is I also know, to write that book, it's going to be big and overwhelming and there's a lot that goes into it. And while I've started the process of it, I just know it's probably a two to three year project, if I'm honest with myself, because I have to learn how to write it a different style. It's not a how to book. It's like a storybook. And I want to sync it to The Hero With A Thousand Faces and all these story arcs. I interview 1000 people because I want to get everybody's perspective. I don't want to tell the story from my perspective. I want to tell it from everybody's perspective. And so that's one that's big. Plus, I don't have an ending to the story yet. What's the ending of the story? "And then we were happy." No, it's got to be awesome. "And then we went public," or, "Then we whatever," something cool. So I'm still waiting for the ending of the story. So it was hard to write the beginning if you don't know the ending and I'm hoping the book's not going to be a tragedy. I don't think it will be, but you never know. I don't know. I don't have a full picture, so I can't write that one yet. Although, I do know that is my legacy project of like telling the ClickFunnels story and how we did it all kind of stuff. So I sit back and I know that I have a lot of friends that have written personal development books. I've never wanted to do a personal development book, but there's something that, man, for almost probably nine or 10 months now it's been in my thoughts and I keep thinking about it, keep thinking about it, keep thinking about it. And yesterday I was like, "What if I just wrote that book first?" And then I was like, "Huh? It'd be a lot easier to write. I could get it done. We could launch it next year. It could be out in the world." But is it worth writing? I don't want to write a book just to write a book. A lot of people just write a book because, "Oh, I need a book." I want to write a book that's going to change people. That 500 years now people will reference it. That's the kind of book I want to write. So it's just like, can I make this something that's amazing, that's different, that's unique, that's not the same conversation, but it's a different conversation that'll inspire and help people for a long time? And so that's been the questions going through my head. And recently I figured out the title of it, and then I bought the domain, which was not cheap. So I bought the domain for it. And then it was, "Okay, this could be a thing." So yesterday I reached out to somebody who I know who actually designed the very first Dot Com Secrets book covers. He's name is Rob Secades. And I was like, "Rob, I'm thinking about writing a book. Do you want to design the cover for me?" And he got all excited. I got all excited. I'm like, "Ah!" So now he's designing the cover of the book. And now officially, as soon as that conversation ended, in my head, I was like, "I'm writing a book. I haven't even told my wife about it yet." Gosh, she's going to freak out. I almost want to not tell her and then just be like, "Hey, it's done," when it's done, because she knows the pain that I go through to write a book. But that got me excited, and then I emailed our publisher and was like, "Hey, if I wrote a book on this, would you be interested?" And this morning I got emailed back and he's like, "Heck yeah, that'd be amazing." He was freaking out and, "Let's do this thing," And he's like, "To hit the dates you want to sell this thing by here's when we have to have the manuscript back and everything." And I was like, "Oh," and now I'm sitting in my car, out front of the office excited because officially the switch has been turned on. I'm writing my next book and I'm not going to tell you what it is yet. But I do want to tell you that there's this weird energy that comes with it. And so to come back to the question initially for you guys, which is, should you write a book? The answer is a deafening yes. You should write a book. Same questions, well, when should I start writing it? I would propose you start writing it today. You've just got to flip the switch. When you start flipping the switch, these last 24 hours, my mind has been trying to figure out, what's this book? What's it look like? What's the outline? What's unique? What's different? What's the frameworks we're going to use? The swirling in your head, in your mind, and all these things, I'm like, "Oh, it's amazing." So if I was you, I would commit, "I'm going to write a book." And you don't have to write today, and maybe you hate writing, and that's okay. But just, "I'm going to write a book." And if you're like, "What's the title going to be?" And then I would hire someone to go create the book cover, because for me at least I can't design a site until I've got a logo. I don't know. I'm very visual that way. But I see a book cover and it's like, "Oh my gosh, I can see the tangible thing that people will be holding in their hands someday to make this real." And then your mind will start looking for the answers like, "Okay, what is this going to look like? What's page one? What's the first section? What's the second section? What's chapter one, two, three? Where do I want to take people? What's the mission of this book? What's the goal? All those things. Maybe somebody I'll write a whole course on how to write a book because that could be a fun thing too. But for now, I just want you think about that. If you start, you'll start opening your mind to the ideas. And even if it takes you 10 years to write a book, that's okay. But now you're putting things down. I remember Matt Fury told me one time, he's like, "If you wake up every morning and you write two pages a day," he's like, "that's 700 and whatever pages a year." He's like, "That's three books a year." So even if you say, I’m just going to write one page a day. If you wrote one page a day, that’s 365. That's a big book. It gives you tons of time to take weekends off and whatever. But if you wake up and say, "Everyday, I'm going to write one page a day," if you do that consistently, within eight, nine months, you've got a book done, which is exciting. And there's something magical in the romance of just saying, "Hey, what are you up to you?" "I'm writing a book." "What? You are?" "Yeah. I'm writing a book," which is crazy exciting. So anyway, I just want to put that out there. I do think everyone should read a book. I think one of our missions for all of us on this earth is to come down to this earth and we have an opportunity to help other people. You've heard me talk about this a lot. I believe that entrepreneurship is all of us has been called to serve a group of people. So the first part is identifying who are the people I've been called to serve, and then you find them and say, "How do I serve?" And you start looking through those things. And then I feel like one of our other role roles is, we're going through this life experience, we're learning all these things, and we're having experiences and tests and trials and problems and reading books, we're studying things, and I think part of our job is to curate your learning. It's like all the stuff you experience in this life, we should be curating those things. And you can be curating for yourself, for your spouse, for your kids, for your kids' kids, for your grandkids, the people you've been called to serve, whatever it is. We've all been here given our own unique minds, our own brains, our own experiences, and I think so many times we go through life and experience stuff, which gives us growth, but then we never actually leave anything behind to contribute to the next set of people, the people after us who were coming, who are like, I'm on the earth now. Does anyone got a playbook for how to navigate this?" And so all the growth that you went through, all the things you learn, all the things you experience, like all this stuff, if you don't leave a playbook behind for somebody else, oh, what a tragedy. If you look at, and I'm going to talk about this in my new book, by the way, but one of my favorite principles from Tony Robbins is the six human needs. And there's the needs of the body and the needs of the spirit, and I'm going to go deep into it right now, but there's four needs of the body and there's two needs of the spirit. And the two needs of the spirit are growth, number one, and then contribution. I think most people here on this earth get to the spot where you figure out the needs of the body and then you can move to the next tier, and now you start focusing on growth, which is your personal development. I think so many people go through that, and it's amazing. But then the most fulfilling, the last step in this process, is contribution, which is now you're leaving something behind. How do you contribute to other people? All the growth you've gone through, what's the purpose of it? And if you don't leave something behind, then so much of the things you went through is in vain, because it only affected you. And so I want to argue that at that as much as I love the romance of writing a book, I think a bigger part is you creating this thing that gives you the ability to contribute your life's lessons back. And so I'm excited for this new book for me, because it's not that I know the answers to these questions, but it's been a question that I've been chasing for the last decade. And I think that I've gotten further to the answer than most people who have had a chance to be on this planet yet I think it's something that everyone who's been on this planet should understand. If I can give you a treasure map that gets you there faster, it'd be a disservice if I didn't. And so that's why I'm writing this next book, and I'm pumped and I'm excited. And I hope that, first off, you're excited for the book. I'm not going to tell you the title or the name or anything. I just want you to freak out with me a little bit. Ah, freak out. But more importantly, because I think if I told you the title and all stuff it would distract from what I want you to think about, which is yourself, which is like all the growth you're going through right now, what's the contribution you're going to leave behind? And so think about that, okay, based on that, I'm going to write a book. And it may be a decade process, but I'm going to start the process so I can tell people, if they to ask me, "What are you doing?" "I'm writing a book?" "What? How cool is that?" I'm like, "What are you doing?" "Nothing." "How you feeling?" "Okay." If they're not doing anything, they're not creating anything, so it's like, most people's lives are so boring and static and just like, blah. But we're creators, we're entrepreneurs. We're the crazy ones. We need to be creating or else we're dying. And so just that process of somebody asking, "What are you doing?" "I'm writing a book." "Really? You're writing a book? What's it about? Tell me about it." It opens up this excitement and this energy and gets your mind spinning, and there's so many cool, exciting things for you. So should you write a book? The answer is, yes. You've gone through too much to not share it with the people you love. Even if nobody reads it, maybe one person reads it, would it be worth it? Yeah. If one person can learn from the things that you experienced and that can change their life, it was totally worth you documenting the process and turning it into a manual, even if it’s for that one person. And if you follow the process I teach you guys with the free plus shipping funnels and all that kind of stuff, you can get into a lot more people's hands and hopefully help thousands or tens of thousands or millions or more. And that ripple effect will be because you decided to contribute, which is exciting. So, all right, that's all I got. I'm out for the day. I'm going to go start outlining my new book. So excited. Appreciate you guys for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, if you're writing a book, take a snapshot on your phone of this. You just push the two phone buttons. Boom. It takes a picture. Post that picture up to Instagram or Facebook or any of the other social platforms that you chill on. And tag me and tell me that you're committed to writing a book. I'd love to see it. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening and I'll talk to y'all soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of the questions I get a lot is “should I write a book?”. I’m going to tell you what I think, and why I’m starting book #4.

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What’s up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. That beep means I need to put my seatbelt on before I drive away. And I am here today to answer the question, should you write a book? Today, something that has been on my mind is this question I get asked a lot, which is, should I write a book? And it's funny because, as you guys know, I've written three books. One of them was a New York Times bestseller. Woohoo! So that's pretty exciting. But it's funny because I never was a writer. I didn't want to be a writer. I hated writing in school. Even to this day, someone asked me, two days ago actually, he said, "Russell, do you like writing books?" I was like, "No, writing books is horrible. It is the most painful process of all time." And so, no, I do not like to write books, yet I've written three, and I'm probably going to write more.

And people ask, "Well, why would you do that?" I'm like, "Well, it's the most painful process part of all the things I do." It's the hardest thing to do, but at the same time, it's also the thing that live the longest, that lives beyond yourself, that lasts, especially if you write a book that matters. I know there's a lot of people who teach how to write a book really fast, and I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about should you write a book that's going to be your legacy, the thing that people are going to remember you by? And a couple of things, I remember when I first got started, it was about 18 years ago, I remember going to events where people were selling the dream of, "You need to write a book. It's going to give you credibility," all these things.

And so I put it in my head, I want to write a book. But I didn't for almost 10 years. But I remember when I started, I was like, "I'm going to write a book. It's going to be called Dot Com Secrets, because I don't know why. I just love that name." A lot of people told me they hated it. In fact, Jeff, Walker was like, "It's the worst name of a book ever." But whatever, I still like it. So anyway, I decided I'm going to write a book. I remember there was something cool about just in my head knowing that I'm writing a book. Even though I hadn't actually written anything, I just was like, "Okay, well, what's the outline? What's the table of contents? What's it going to look like? What should I write?" I started brainstorming it. But there was something when I flipped the switch to I was writing a book that just became exciting. I don't know.

And I remember after I got done and I was like, "This is so hard. I'll never write a book again." But then when I decided I'm going to read Expert Secrets, there was something magical. I don't know. Maybe it's the romance of being an author and writing, and I don't know all that stuff, but there was something magical where I was like, "I'm writing again," and I got in that fun stage. And the same thing with Traffic Secrets, the romance. And I remember after each book, I was like, "I'll never write a book again. I'll never write a book again." But about the time that I got done the Expert Secrets book, I was hanging out with Brendan Bouchard. He's written, I don't know, a ton of books. And I remember he told me, he's like, "No, you're an author." He's like, "You just write a book every two years. That's just how it works. For the rest of your life, you should do that." And I was like, "Huh, interesting."

And it took me a while, I'm not going to lie. Almost until I decided to do Traffic Secrets. After that, I was like, "All right, I'm going to do that. That's going to be a thing where I'm going to read a book every two years for the rest of my life." And so when Traffic Secrets got to the end, I was burned out because it was a brutal one. Plus, as some of you know, after finishing Traffic Secrets, I went back and I rewrote Dotcom Secrets and I rewrote Expert Secrets. So that was a season of too many words, hundreds of thousands of words. And I was just like, "I don't know if I can keep doing it." It was hard. So I haven't written anything in, it's been over a year. Holy cow. Weird. Yeah, because basically 2020 happened. We blinked and 2020 happened, and now we're back right now it's February of 2021, and I haven't written anything. So it's been over a year. It was just crazy.

Anyway, I tell you this because I knew my next book what I want it to be, and I've told you guys on this podcast it's called Bootstrap. This is going to be the ClickFunnels story. And I'm excited. The problem is I also know, to write that book, it's going to be big and overwhelming and there's a lot that goes into it. And while I've started the process of it, I just know it's probably a two to three year project, if I'm honest with myself, because I have to learn how to write it a different style. It's not a how to book. It's like a storybook. And I want to sync it to The Hero With A Thousand Faces and all these story arcs. I interview 1000 people because I want to get everybody's perspective. I don't want to tell the story from my perspective. I want to tell it from everybody's perspective.

And so that's one that's big. Plus, I don't have an ending to the story yet. What's the ending of the story? "And then we were happy." No, it's got to be awesome. "And then we went public," or, "Then we whatever," something cool. So I'm still waiting for the ending of the story. So it was hard to write the beginning if you don't know the ending and I'm hoping the book's not going to be a tragedy. I don't think it will be, but you never know. I don't know. I don't have a full picture, so I can't write that one yet. Although, I do know that is my legacy project of like telling the ClickFunnels story and how we did it all kind of stuff. So I sit back and I know that I have a lot of friends that have written personal development books. I've never wanted to do a personal development book, but there's something that, man, for almost probably nine or 10 months now it's been in my thoughts and I keep thinking about it, keep thinking about it, keep thinking about it.

And yesterday I was like, "What if I just wrote that book first?" And then I was like, "Huh? It'd be a lot easier to write. I could get it done. We could launch it next year. It could be out in the world." But is it worth writing? I don't want to write a book just to write a book. A lot of people just write a book because, "Oh, I need a book." I want to write a book that's going to change people. That 500 years now people will reference it. That's the kind of book I want to write. So it's just like, can I make this something that's amazing, that's different, that's unique, that's not the same conversation, but it's a different conversation that'll inspire and help people for a long time? And so that's been the questions going through my head. And recently I figured out the title of it, and then I bought the domain, which was not cheap. So I bought the domain for it. And then it was, "Okay, this could be a thing."

So yesterday I reached out to somebody who I know who actually designed the very first Dot Com Secrets book covers. He's name is Rob Secades. And I was like, "Rob, I'm thinking about writing a book. Do you want to design the cover for me?" And he got all excited. I got all excited. I'm like, "Ah!" So now he's designing the cover of the book. And now officially, as soon as that conversation ended, in my head, I was like, "I'm writing a book. I haven't even told my wife about it yet." Gosh, she's going to freak out. I almost want to not tell her and then just be like, "Hey, it's done," when it's done, because she knows the pain that I go through to write a book. But that got me excited, and then I emailed our publisher and was like, "Hey, if I wrote a book on this, would you be interested?" And this morning I got emailed back and he's like, "Heck yeah, that'd be amazing." He was freaking out and, "Let's do this thing,"

And he's like, "To hit the dates you want to sell this thing by here's when we have to have the manuscript back and everything." And I was like, "Oh," and now I'm sitting in my car, out front of the office excited because officially the switch has been turned on. I'm writing my next book and I'm not going to tell you what it is yet. But I do want to tell you that there's this weird energy that comes with it. And so to come back to the question initially for you guys, which is, should you write a book? The answer is a deafening yes. You should write a book. Same questions, well, when should I start writing it? I would propose you start writing it today. You've just got to flip the switch. When you start flipping the switch, these last 24 hours, my mind has been trying to figure out, what's this book? What's it look like? What's the outline? What's unique? What's different? What's the frameworks we're going to use?

The swirling in your head, in your mind, and all these things, I'm like, "Oh, it's amazing." So if I was you, I would commit, "I'm going to write a book." And you don't have to write today, and maybe you hate writing, and that's okay. But just, "I'm going to write a book." And if you're like, "What's the title going to be?" And then I would hire someone to go create the book cover, because for me at least I can't design a site until I've got a logo. I don't know. I'm very visual that way. But I see a book cover and it's like, "Oh my gosh, I can see the tangible thing that people will be holding in their hands someday to make this real." And then your mind will start looking for the answers like, "Okay, what is this going to look like? What's page one? What's the first section? What's the second section? What's chapter one, two, three? Where do I want to take people? What's the mission of this book? What's the goal? All those things.

Maybe somebody I'll write a whole course on how to write a book because that could be a fun thing too. But for now, I just want you think about that. If you start, you'll start opening your mind to the ideas. And even if it takes you 10 years to write a book, that's okay. But now you're putting things down. I remember Matt Fury told me one time, he's like, "If you wake up every morning and you write two pages a day," he's like, "that's 700 and whatever pages a year." He's like, "That's three books a year." So even if you say, I’m just going to write one page a day. If you wrote one page a day, that’s 365. That's a big book. It gives you tons of time to take weekends off and whatever. But if you wake up and say, "Everyday, I'm going to write one page a day," if you do that consistently, within eight, nine months, you've got a book done, which is exciting. And there's something magical in the romance of just saying, "Hey, what are you up to you?" "I'm writing a book." "What? You are?"

"Yeah. I'm writing a book," which is crazy exciting. So anyway, I just want to put that out there. I do think everyone should read a book. I think one of our missions for all of us on this earth is to come down to this earth and we have an opportunity to help other people. You've heard me talk about this a lot. I believe that entrepreneurship is all of us has been called to serve a group of people. So the first part is identifying who are the people I've been called to serve, and then you find them and say, "How do I serve?" And you start looking through those things. And then I feel like one of our other role roles is, we're going through this life experience, we're learning all these things, and we're having experiences and tests and trials and problems and reading books, we're studying things, and I think part of our job is to curate your learning. It's like all the stuff you experience in this life, we should be curating those things.

And you can be curating for yourself, for your spouse, for your kids, for your kids' kids, for your grandkids, the people you've been called to serve, whatever it is. We've all been here given our own unique minds, our own brains, our own experiences, and I think so many times we go through life and experience stuff, which gives us growth, but then we never actually leave anything behind to contribute to the next set of people, the people after us who were coming, who are like, I'm on the earth now. Does anyone got a playbook for how to navigate this?" And so all the growth that you went through, all the things you learn, all the things you experience, like all this stuff, if you don't leave a playbook behind for somebody else, oh, what a tragedy. If you look at, and I'm going to talk about this in my new book, by the way, but one of my favorite principles from Tony Robbins is the six human needs.

And there's the needs of the body and the needs of the spirit, and I'm going to go deep into it right now, but there's four needs of the body and there's two needs of the spirit. And the two needs of the spirit are growth, number one, and then contribution. I think most people here on this earth get to the spot where you figure out the needs of the body and then you can move to the next tier, and now you start focusing on growth, which is your personal development. I think so many people go through that, and it's amazing. But then the most fulfilling, the last step in this process, is contribution, which is now you're leaving something behind. How do you contribute to other people? All the growth you've gone through, what's the purpose of it? And if you don't leave something behind, then so much of the things you went through is in vain, because it only affected you.

And so I want to argue that at that as much as I love the romance of writing a book, I think a bigger part is you creating this thing that gives you the ability to contribute your life's lessons back. And so I'm excited for this new book for me, because it's not that I know the answers to these questions, but it's been a question that I've been chasing for the last decade. And I think that I've gotten further to the answer than most people who have had a chance to be on this planet yet I think it's something that everyone who's been on this planet should understand. If I can give you a treasure map that gets you there faster, it'd be a disservice if I didn't. And so that's why I'm writing this next book, and I'm pumped and I'm excited. And I hope that, first off, you're excited for the book.

I'm not going to tell you the title or the name or anything. I just want you to freak out with me a little bit. Ah, freak out. But more importantly, because I think if I told you the title and all stuff it would distract from what I want you to think about, which is yourself, which is like all the growth you're going through right now, what's the contribution you're going to leave behind? And so think about that, okay, based on that, I'm going to write a book. And it may be a decade process, but I'm going to start the process so I can tell people, if they to ask me, "What are you doing?" "I'm writing a book?" "What? How cool is that?" I'm like, "What are you doing?" "Nothing." "How you feeling?" "Okay." If they're not doing anything, they're not creating anything, so it's like, most people's lives are so boring and static and just like, blah.

But we're creators, we're entrepreneurs. We're the crazy ones. We need to be creating or else we're dying. And so just that process of somebody asking, "What are you doing?" "I'm writing a book." "Really? You're writing a book? What's it about? Tell me about it." It opens up this excitement and this energy and gets your mind spinning, and there's so many cool, exciting things for you. So should you write a book? The answer is, yes. You've gone through too much to not share it with the people you love. Even if nobody reads it, maybe one person reads it, would it be worth it? Yeah. If one person can learn from the things that you experienced and that can change their life, it was totally worth you documenting the process and turning it into a manual, even if it’s for that one person. And if you follow the process I teach you guys with the free plus shipping funnels and all that kind of stuff, you can get into a lot more people's hands and hopefully help thousands or tens of thousands or millions or more. And that ripple effect will be because you decided to contribute, which is exciting.

So, all right, that's all I got. I'm out for the day. I'm going to go start outlining my new book. So excited. Appreciate you guys for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, if you're writing a book, take a snapshot on your phone of this. You just push the two phone buttons. Boom. It takes a picture. Post that picture up to Instagram or Facebook or any of the other social platforms that you chill on. And tag me and tell me that you're committed to writing a book. I'd love to see it. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening and I'll talk to y'all soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 960 no NEW SOFTWARE: The Only Other Software I Use EVERY Day https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/new-software-the-only-other-software-i-use-every-day This is my new favorite software for creating products, order form bumps, upsells, and more. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, I welcome you first off to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm excited to be hanging out with you guys and I'm thinking about doing some upgrades to this podcast. Which makes me sad, because part of me loves the way it is now, but part of me keeps thinking like, "What could we do to make it amazing?" Anyway, keep paying attention, because there's probably some cool stuff coming really soon. But Today I want to talk about something that is really cool, that is here today that I am freaking out about. And yeah, it's by far my favorite new tool that I've been using. Yeah, so you excited to hear about it? It's going to change everything for you. All right, so, I got to tell you guys a story. I remember... So, my first mentor in this business, his name is Mark Joyner. And I remember, if you don't know, it's Click Funnels and we had it live for, I don't know, maybe two years or something. We actually had Mark fly out and I got to build the funnel for him and it was really, really cool. I remember we were sitting there and I'm building his funnel and having so much fun, and he says something to me. He's like, "Man, I've never seen somebody who's really that excited about their own product." I was like, "Oh yeah, I'm obsessed with ClickFunnels. I'm here every day for hours and hours and hours every single day." Oh, I wish ClickFunnels would log time, like how many hours you spend in there. Because I guarantee, I think I spent more time inside of ClickFunnels than any other human on this planet because I love it. And how cool is it to be able to create a product and use a product you love so much, you use it literally every single day? There's not many people that can say that. In fact, I guarantee you that none of my competitors, the founders of the company, used their own product a fraction of what I use our own product because I use it every single day. Every day we're launching new funnels, we're testing new things, we're checking our stats and our ads and we're making split tests and tweaks. I'm obsessed with it, as you guys know. But it's been a long time since something like ClickFunnels has come out that I've been excited for, and it's actually interesting the backstory behind this. When we first launched ClickFunnels, there were three partners. The first it was me and Todd Dickerson, and then we brought in a third co-founder, some of you guys know him, his name is Dylan Jones. And Dylan was the one who built the original ClickFunnels editor. He was part of the team for a couple of years, and then eventually we ended up buying him out and he's been off on his own, having the time of his life for the last couple of years. Recently, he started just playing around with some new ideas and he wanted to get back to coding and creating and stuff like that. He messaged me a little while ago. He was like, "Hey, I have this new tool that I created. I want you to check it out." I'll give you the tool upfront and I'll talk about what it does. It's called one-pager. So it's onepager.io. So www.onepager.io, if you want to see what it is. But it's this really cool editor that makes these one-pagers. They're called one-pagers, right? At first, I was like, "Okay, I don't get it." He's like, "No, it's really cool. You can use it for making lead magnets or creating process flows or everything." I still didn't get it at first, right? I was kind of struggling. Then he demoed himself using it. It's so cool. He opened up this grid and then you drag the grid and you create a little blocking. Oh, what you want in this block? You want text or video or a headline or a checklist or whatever, and then you drag another block and really quickly, in like five seconds, I watched him build out a SWAT analysis one-pager and then he did another one. I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is cool." I'm like, "Let's do a one-pager for a concept inside my books." He's like, "Well, give me a concept.", so I'm like, "Okay, here's my storytelling framework." He looked at my storytelling framework and within five minutes he built a one-pager for it. That was insane. We're like, "Literally I could use it as a lead magnet", I said, "Hey, give me your email address and I will give you this one-pager, which is going to teach you my story framework" or I could sell them and give you the episodes and be like, "Hey, you bought my book, if you want here's my six one-pagers for me showing you all the processes of the book, section 97 bucks." I created an upsell for it in a heartbeat. In a few minutes, I created an upsell that fast from my book, or I can make an order form bumps or I can make... Oh, there's so many things. And I became mildly obsessed. I say mildly obsessed because I know to this day, there's nobody who spent more time inside of one-pager than me. I have built out now... I found out about it right before we launched the five day lead challenge, somebody has asked us to do the five day lead challenge. And in that challenge, I was teaching people to make lead magnets. I'm like, "Okay, everyone use one-pager." In fact, I got Dylan to go and create it so that everyone could create their first one-pager for free. So I was like create a one-pager and use that as a lead magnet. So in the five day lead challenge, we taught... I think we had 45,000 people registered for that, I taught them all like, "Hey, here's how to make a one-pager, go use that. Now you have a lead magnet you can go give away." And so I had everyone go create a one-pager lead magnet. And then we did the one funnel away challenge. I structured it where every single day I taught a principle, but I made a one-pager out of that principle. And every day they learn a principle from me. And then they get a one-pager with all the stuff in it, right? And the day two, day three... So I built 30 one-pagers for the one funnel away challenge. I did five one-pagers for the five day lead challenge. And now it's like every thought I've ever had, every concept, everything, every framework I've built, every principle, every everything I've ever created or dreamt of I'm turning into one-pager. That's how obsessed I am because it's taking these things, these concepts and it turns them tangible. It's hard to explain what a one-pager is until you actually see one. But it takes something and it makes it tangible, where it's like, "Oh, now this framework, this abstract concept you shared with me, now I can actually see it, I can touch it. It's a thing that I can actually... It's a one-pager." Ah, it's so insanely cool. And I'm excited because I literally have been using this tool every single day. And as I looked over the last literally 45 days, there's two products I've used every day. And that's Monday through Monday, seven days a week and that's ClickFunnels and it's one-pager. And I have to... In full disclosure, I got so obsessed with one-pager I asked Dylan if I could buy into it, become a partner and so now I am. So, yes, I do have ulterior motives to tell you about it. But the reality is these are the only two products that I use every single day, every single day in my business. That's it. Like, there's other ones I use every once in a while, I log into my odd responders, I log into my analytics. But the two things I use every single day are ClickFunnels and one-pager. And that's pretty cool. How cool is it to create products that you use every single day? Not just like, "Oh, this is a good idea. You can use it once." Like, every single day. Every day I'm in one-pager and now I'm going through everything I've ever taught. All my books, all my speeches at Funnel Hacking Live, all my projects that got partially done but not finished, I'm turning them all into one-pagers. One-pager after one-pager, I'm building lead bags, I'm building order form bumps, I'm building courses, I'm building everything with this amazing new tool called one-pagers. So, anyway, if you're not staying on one-pager right now, you don't have a poll. You should pull over the car, pause the thing, go to onepager.io. And what's cool about it is you create a one-pager and you can give it to somebody, right? So I give it to you and you can go take it and you plug it into a one-pager account and you give a free one page account. Because it stores all the one-pages people are giving you, right? So you can have all the content, the curriculum, the things you're learning, and they're all stored in your one-pager account, which is cool. And then had Dylan set up so the very first one-pager, you get one for free. So you got one, you can give away for free. You can make a lead magnet, doesn't cost you anything. Then obviously upgrade, you can create unlimited and it's insanely cheap, the software. We're going to be raising the price soon. But right now it's really, really cheap. And then you can start creating these things. And Dylan is in full out creation mode. He's adding all sorts of new things to it. He's adding new elements, just new stuff. That's amazing inside of it. He's working on membership modules and things like that, where you could have password protected one-pagers and you have all... Anyway, once they get unlocked, when somebody buys from you. And the future is really, really cool, but literally the product's been live to the world for 45 days now and I've used it every one of those days. And so, anyway, it's not that often I get excited about a tool. In fact, I have not been... I told Dylan this, before we became partners and before I bought into the company I said, "This is the most excited I have been to buy software, it's ClickFunnels. That's it." And he got pumped and I got pumped and now it's part of my daily routine. I'm in one-pager every single day. So if you're a creator, if you're a designer, if you're thinking about things, if you're trying to create products, if you're trying to create lead magnets, you're trying to create order for bumps or courses or whatever, you should go start using one-pager. If you're a speaker, if you're a presenter, if you're... Whatever you are, one-pager is amazing. It's one of the fastest ways I know to create a product, fastest way to get an idea out of your head, fastest way to get a tangible thing. So, anyway, you should all go to onepager.io and just go get a free account and just played with it, it's seriously that cool. Anyway, so I'm pumped. Like I said, it's not very often that I use a product every single day. And the only two products I use every single day right now are ClickFunnels and onepager.io. So, there you go. And also, just to add to that, there's one other product that we're working on right now, that I can't tell you what it is yet, but it is amazing. I do think it will be the third product I use every single day. So, we're probably three months out, frankly didn't talk about that one, but it's cool too. So I'm sharing this for a lot of reasons. Number one, I want you guys to go sign for onepager.io. Number two, I want you to think about what is it you could create for your marketplace you would actually, legitimately use every single day. Because if you're going to use it every single day, there's a good chance that your market will as well. And so it's just kind of a test. In fact, I can tell you in the past, I created software in the past that I sold, but I never really used it myself. Like, "Oh yeah, it does this one little thing." But it wasn't something that became a staple in my life. Do you create something that literally you can't live without, where you're using it daily? Man, how powerful is that? Then your customers start using it, they're using it daily. It just changes everything. So anyway, hope you guys check it out, onepager.io. Have some fun with it, play with it. And like I said, I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0000 NEW SOFTWARE: The Only Other Software I Use EVERY Day full 391 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is my new favorite software for creating products, order form bumps, upsells, and more. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, I... This is my new favorite software for creating products, order form bumps, upsells, and more. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, I welcome you first off to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm excited to be hanging out with you guys and I'm thinking about doing some upgrades to this podcast. Which makes me sad, because part of me loves the way it is now, but part of me keeps thinking like, "What could we do to make it amazing?" Anyway, keep paying attention, because there's probably some cool stuff coming really soon. But Today I want to talk about something that is really cool, that is here today that I am freaking out about. And yeah, it's by far my favorite new tool that I've been using. Yeah, so you excited to hear about it? It's going to change everything for you. All right, so, I got to tell you guys a story. I remember... So, my first mentor in this business, his name is Mark Joyner. And I remember, if you don't know, it's Click Funnels and we had it live for, I don't know, maybe two years or something. We actually had Mark fly out and I got to build the funnel for him and it was really, really cool. I remember we were sitting there and I'm building his funnel and having so much fun, and he says something to me. He's like, "Man, I've never seen somebody who's really that excited about their own product." I was like, "Oh yeah, I'm obsessed with ClickFunnels. I'm here every day for hours and hours and hours every single day." Oh, I wish ClickFunnels would log time, like how many hours you spend in there. Because I guarantee, I think I spent more time inside of ClickFunnels than any other human on this planet because I love it. And how cool is it to be able to create a product and use a product you love so much, you use it literally every single day? There's not many people that can say that. In fact, I guarantee you that none of my competitors, the founders of the company, used their own product a fraction of what I use our own product because I use it every single day. Every day we're launching new funnels, we're testing new things, we're checking our stats and our ads and we're making split tests and tweaks. I'm obsessed with it, as you guys know. But it's been a long time since something like ClickFunnels has come out that I've been excited for, and it's actually interesting the backstory behind this. When we first launched ClickFunnels, there were three partners. The first it was me and Todd Dickerson, and then we brought in a third co-founder, some of you guys know him, his name is Dylan Jones. And Dylan was the one who built the original ClickFunnels editor. He was part of the team for a couple of years, and then eventually we ended up buying him out and he's been off on his own, having the time of his life for the last couple of years. Recently, he started just playing around with some new ideas and he wanted to get back to coding and creating and stuff like that. He messaged me a little while ago. He was like, "Hey, I have this new tool that I created. I want you to check it out." I'll give you the tool upfront and I'll talk about what it does. It's called one-pager. So it's onepager.io. So www.onepager.io, if you want to see what it is. But it's this really cool editor that makes these one-pagers. They're called one-pagers, right? At first, I was like, "Okay, I don't get it." He's like, "No, it's really cool. You can use it for making lead magnets or creating process flows or everything." I still didn't get it at first, right? I was kind of struggling. Then he demoed himself using it. It's so cool. He opened up this grid and then you drag the grid and you create a little blocking. Oh, what you want in this block? You want text or video or a headline or a checklist or whatever, and then you drag another block and really quickly, in like five seconds, I watched him build out a SWAT analysis one-pager and then he did another one. I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is cool." I'm like, "Let's do a one-pager for a concept inside my books." He's like, "Well, give me a concept.", so I'm like, "Okay, here's my storytelling framework." He looked at my storytelling framework and within five minutes he built a one-pager for it. That was insane. We're like, "Literally I could use it as a lead magnet", I said, "Hey, give me your email address and I will give you this one-pager, which is going to teach you my story framework" or I could sell them and give you the episodes and be like, "Hey, you bought my book, if you want here's my six one-pagers for me showing you all the processes of the book, section 97 bucks." I created an upsell for it in a heartbeat. In a few minutes, I created an upsell that fast from my book, or I can make an order form bumps or I can make... Oh, there's so many things. And I became mildly obsessed. I say mildly obsessed because I know to this day, there's nobody who spent more time inside of one-pager than me. I have built out now... I found out about it right before we launched the five day lead challenge, somebody has asked us to do the five day lead challenge. And in that challenge, I was teaching people to make lead magnets. I'm like, "Okay, everyone use one-pager." In fact, I got Dylan to go and create it so that everyone could create their first one-pager for free. So I was like create a one-pager and use that as a lead magnet. So in the five day lead challenge, we taught... I think we had 45,000 people registered for that, I taught them all like, "Hey, here's how to make a one-pager, go use that. Now you have a lead magnet you can go give away." And so I had everyone go create a one-pager lead magnet. And then we did the one funnel away challenge. I structured it where every single day I taught a principle, but I made a one-pager out of that principle. And every day they learn a principle from me. And then they get a one-pager with all the stuff in it, right? And the day two, day three... So I built 30 one-pagers for the one funnel away challenge. I did five one-pagers for the five day lead challenge. And now it's like every thought I've ever had, every concept, everything, every framework I've built, every principle, every everything I've ever created or dreamt of I'm turning into one-pager. That's how obsessed I am because it's taking these things, these concepts and it turns them tangible. It's hard to explain what a one-pager is until you actually see one. But it takes something and it makes it tangible, where it's like, "Oh, now this framework, this abstract concept you shared with me, now I can actually see it, I can touch it. It's a thing that I can actually... It's a one-pager." Ah, it's so insanely cool. And I'm excited because I literally have been using this tool every single day. And as I looked over the last literally 45 days, there's two products I've used every day. And that's Monday through Monday, seven days a week and that's ClickFunnels and it's one-pager. And I have to... In full disclosure, I got so obsessed with one-pager I asked Dylan if I could buy into it, become a partner and so now I am. So, yes, I do have ulterior motives to tell you about it. But the reality is these are the only two products that I use every single day, every single day in my business. That's it. Like, there's other ones I use every once in a while, I log into my odd responders, I log into my analytics. But the two things I use every single day are ClickFunnels and one-pager. And that's pretty cool. How cool is it to create products that you use every single day? Not just like, "Oh, this is a good idea. You can use it once." Like, every single day. Every day I'm in one-pager and now I'm going through everything I've ever taught. All my books, all my speeches at Funnel Hacking Live, all my projects that got partially done but not finished, I'm turning them all into one-pagers. One-pager after one-pager, I'm building lead bags, I'm building order form bumps, I'm building courses, I'm building everything with this amazing new tool called one-pagers. So, anyway, if you're not staying on one-pager right now, you don't have a poll. You should pull over the car, pause the thing, go to onepager.io. And what's cool about it is you create a one-pager and you can give it to somebody, right? So I give it to you and you can go take it and you plug it into a one-pager account and you give a free one page account. Because it stores all the one-pages people are giving you, right? So you can have all the content, the curriculum, the things you're learning, and they're all stored in your one-pager account, which is cool. And then had Dylan set up so the very first one-pager, you get one for free. So you got one, you can give away for free. You can make a lead magnet, doesn't cost you anything. Then obviously upgrade, you can create unlimited and it's insanely cheap, the software. We're going to be raising the price soon. But right now it's really, really cheap. And then you can start creating these things. And Dylan is in full out creation mode. He's adding all sorts of new things to it. He's adding new elements, just new stuff. That's amazing inside of it. He's working on membership modules and things like that, where you could have password protected one-pagers and you have all... Anyway, once they get unlocked, when somebody buys from you. And the future is really, really cool, but literally the product's been live to the world for 45 days now and I've used it every one of those days. And so, anyway, it's not that often I get excited about a tool. In fact, I have not been... I told Dylan this, before we became partners and before I bought into the company I said, "This is the most excited I have been to buy software, it's ClickFunnels. That's it." And he got pumped and I got pumped and now it's part of my daily routine. I'm in one-pager every single day. So if you're a creator, if you're a designer, if you're thinking about things, if you're trying to create products, if you're trying to create lead magnets, you're trying to create order for bumps or courses or whatever, you should go start using one-pager. If you're a speaker, if you're a presenter, if you're... Whatever you are, one-pager is amazing. It's one of the fastest ways I know to create a product, fastest way to get an idea out of your head, fastest way to get a tangible thing. So, anyway, you should all go to onepager.io and just go get a free account and just played with it, it's seriously that cool. Anyway, so I'm pumped. Like I said, it's not very often that I use a product every single day. And the only two products I use every single day right now are ClickFunnels and onepager.io. So, there you go. And also, just to add to that, there's one other product that we're working on right now, that I can't tell you what it is yet, but it is amazing. I do think it will be the third product I use every single day. So, we're probably three months out, frankly didn't talk about that one, but it's cool too. So I'm sharing this for a lot of reasons. Number one, I want you guys to go sign for onepager.io. Number two, I want you to think about what is it you could create for your marketplace you would actually, legitimately use every single day. Because if you're going to use it every single day, there's a good chance that your market will as well. And so it's just kind of a test. In fact, I can tell you in the past, I created software in the past that I sold, but I never really used it myself. Like, "Oh yeah, it does this one little thing." But it wasn't something that became a staple in my life. Do you create something that literally you can't live without, where you're using it daily? Man, how powerful is that? Then your customers start using it, they're using it daily. It just changes everything. So anyway, hope you guys check it out, onepager.io. Have some fun with it, play with it. And like I said, I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is my new favorite software for creating products, order form bumps, upsells, and more.

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Hey, what's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, I welcome you first off to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm excited to be hanging out with you guys and I'm thinking about doing some upgrades to this podcast. Which makes me sad, because part of me loves the way it is now, but part of me keeps thinking like, "What could we do to make it amazing?" Anyway, keep paying attention, because there's probably some cool stuff coming really soon.

But Today I want to talk about something that is really cool, that is here today that I am freaking out about. And yeah, it's by far my favorite new tool that I've been using. Yeah, so you excited to hear about it? It's going to change everything for you.

All right, so, I got to tell you guys a story. I remember... So, my first mentor in this business, his name is Mark Joyner. And I remember, if you don't know, it's Click Funnels and we had it live for, I don't know, maybe two years or something. We actually had Mark fly out and I got to build the funnel for him and it was really, really cool.

I remember we were sitting there and I'm building his funnel and having so much fun, and he says something to me. He's like, "Man, I've never seen somebody who's really that excited about their own product." I was like, "Oh yeah, I'm obsessed with ClickFunnels. I'm here every day for hours and hours and hours every single day." Oh, I wish ClickFunnels would log time, like how many hours you spend in there. Because I guarantee, I think I spent more time inside of ClickFunnels than any other human on this planet because I love it.

And how cool is it to be able to create a product and use a product you love so much, you use it literally every single day? There's not many people that can say that. In fact, I guarantee you that none of my competitors, the founders of the company, used their own product a fraction of what I use our own product because I use it every single day. Every day we're launching new funnels, we're testing new things, we're checking our stats and our ads and we're making split tests and tweaks. I'm obsessed with it, as you guys know.

But it's been a long time since something like ClickFunnels has come out that I've been excited for, and it's actually interesting the backstory behind this. When we first launched ClickFunnels, there were three partners. The first it was me and Todd Dickerson, and then we brought in a third co-founder, some of you guys know him, his name is Dylan Jones. And Dylan was the one who built the original ClickFunnels editor. He was part of the team for a couple of years, and then eventually we ended up buying him out and he's been off on his own, having the time of his life for the last couple of years.

Recently, he started just playing around with some new ideas and he wanted to get back to coding and creating and stuff like that. He messaged me a little while ago. He was like, "Hey, I have this new tool that I created. I want you to check it out." I'll give you the tool upfront and I'll talk about what it does.

It's called one-pager. So it's onepager.io. So www.onepager.io, if you want to see what it is. But it's this really cool editor that makes these one-pagers. They're called one-pagers, right? At first, I was like, "Okay, I don't get it." He's like, "No, it's really cool. You can use it for making lead magnets or creating process flows or everything." I still didn't get it at first, right? I was kind of struggling.

Then he demoed himself using it. It's so cool. He opened up this grid and then you drag the grid and you create a little blocking. Oh, what you want in this block? You want text or video or a headline or a checklist or whatever, and then you drag another block and really quickly, in like five seconds, I watched him build out a SWAT analysis one-pager and then he did another one.

I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is cool." I'm like, "Let's do a one-pager for a concept inside my books." He's like, "Well, give me a concept.", so I'm like, "Okay, here's my storytelling framework." He looked at my storytelling framework and within five minutes he built a one-pager for it.

That was insane. We're like, "Literally I could use it as a lead magnet", I said, "Hey, give me your email address and I will give you this one-pager, which is going to teach you my story framework" or I could sell them and give you the episodes and be like, "Hey, you bought my book, if you want here's my six one-pagers for me showing you all the processes of the book, section 97 bucks." I created an upsell for it in a heartbeat. In a few minutes, I created an upsell that fast from my book, or I can make an order form bumps or I can make... Oh, there's so many things. And I became mildly obsessed. I say mildly obsessed because I know to this day, there's nobody who spent more time inside of one-pager than me.

I have built out now... I found out about it right before we launched the five day lead challenge, somebody has asked us to do the five day lead challenge. And in that challenge, I was teaching people to make lead magnets. I'm like, "Okay, everyone use one-pager." In fact, I got Dylan to go and create it so that everyone could create their first one-pager for free. So I was like create a one-pager and use that as a lead magnet. So in the five day lead challenge, we taught... I think we had 45,000 people registered for that, I taught them all like, "Hey, here's how to make a one-pager, go use that. Now you have a lead magnet you can go give away." And so I had everyone go create a one-pager lead magnet. And then we did the one funnel away challenge. I structured it where every single day I taught a principle, but I made a one-pager out of that principle.

And every day they learn a principle from me. And then they get a one-pager with all the stuff in it, right? And the day two, day three... So I built 30 one-pagers for the one funnel away challenge. I did five one-pagers for the five day lead challenge. And now it's like every thought I've ever had, every concept, everything, every framework I've built, every principle, every everything I've ever created or dreamt of I'm turning into one-pager. That's how obsessed I am because it's taking these things, these concepts and it turns them tangible. It's hard to explain what a one-pager is until you actually see one. But it takes something and it makes it tangible, where it's like, "Oh, now this framework, this abstract concept you shared with me, now I can actually see it, I can touch it. It's a thing that I can actually... It's a one-pager." Ah, it's so insanely cool.

And I'm excited because I literally have been using this tool every single day. And as I looked over the last literally 45 days, there's two products I've used every day. And that's Monday through Monday, seven days a week and that's ClickFunnels and it's one-pager. And I have to... In full disclosure, I got so obsessed with one-pager I asked Dylan if I could buy into it, become a partner and so now I am. So, yes, I do have ulterior motives to tell you about it. But the reality is these are the only two products that I use every single day, every single day in my business. That's it. Like, there's other ones I use every once in a while, I log into my odd responders, I log into my analytics. But the two things I use every single day are ClickFunnels and one-pager. And that's pretty cool.

How cool is it to create products that you use every single day? Not just like, "Oh, this is a good idea. You can use it once." Like, every single day. Every day I'm in one-pager and now I'm going through everything I've ever taught. All my books, all my speeches at Funnel Hacking Live, all my projects that got partially done but not finished, I'm turning them all into one-pagers. One-pager after one-pager, I'm building lead bags, I'm building order form bumps, I'm building courses, I'm building everything with this amazing new tool called one-pagers. So, anyway, if you're not staying on one-pager right now, you don't have a poll. You should pull over the car, pause the thing, go to onepager.io.

And what's cool about it is you create a one-pager and you can give it to somebody, right? So I give it to you and you can go take it and you plug it into a one-pager account and you give a free one page account. Because it stores all the one-pages people are giving you, right? So you can have all the content, the curriculum, the things you're learning, and they're all stored in your one-pager account, which is cool. And then had Dylan set up so the very first one-pager, you get one for free. So you got one, you can give away for free. You can make a lead magnet, doesn't cost you anything. Then obviously upgrade, you can create unlimited and it's insanely cheap, the software. We're going to be raising the price soon. But right now it's really, really cheap.

And then you can start creating these things. And Dylan is in full out creation mode. He's adding all sorts of new things to it. He's adding new elements, just new stuff. That's amazing inside of it. He's working on membership modules and things like that, where you could have password protected one-pagers and you have all... Anyway, once they get unlocked, when somebody buys from you. And the future is really, really cool, but literally the product's been live to the world for 45 days now and I've used it every one of those days. And so, anyway, it's not that often I get excited about a tool. In fact, I have not been... I told Dylan this, before we became partners and before I bought into the company I said, "This is the most excited I have been to buy software, it's ClickFunnels. That's it."

And he got pumped and I got pumped and now it's part of my daily routine. I'm in one-pager every single day. So if you're a creator, if you're a designer, if you're thinking about things, if you're trying to create products, if you're trying to create lead magnets, you're trying to create order for bumps or courses or whatever, you should go start using one-pager. If you're a speaker, if you're a presenter, if you're... Whatever you are, one-pager is amazing. It's one of the fastest ways I know to create a product, fastest way to get an idea out of your head, fastest way to get a tangible thing. So, anyway, you should all go to onepager.io and just go get a free account and just played with it, it's seriously that cool. Anyway, so I'm pumped. Like I said, it's not very often that I use a product every single day. And the only two products I use every single day right now are ClickFunnels and onepager.io. So, there you go.

And also, just to add to that, there's one other product that we're working on right now, that I can't tell you what it is yet, but it is amazing. I do think it will be the third product I use every single day. So, we're probably three months out, frankly didn't talk about that one, but it's cool too. So I'm sharing this for a lot of reasons. Number one, I want you guys to go sign for onepager.io. Number two, I want you to think about what is it you could create for your marketplace you would actually, legitimately use every single day. Because if you're going to use it every single day, there's a good chance that your market will as well. And so it's just kind of a test.

In fact, I can tell you in the past, I created software in the past that I sold, but I never really used it myself. Like, "Oh yeah, it does this one little thing." But it wasn't something that became a staple in my life. Do you create something that literally you can't live without, where you're using it daily? Man, how powerful is that? Then your customers start using it, they're using it daily. It just changes everything. So anyway, hope you guys check it out, onepager.io. Have some fun with it, play with it. And like I said, I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 704 no 2CCX Challenge 5: Test The New Control https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/2ccx-challenge-5-test-the-new-control On this episode I talk about challenge #5, testing the new control. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0000 2CCX Challenge 5: Test The New Control full 390 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode I talk about challenge #5, testing the new control. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson, and welcome to the last and final... On this episode I talk about challenge #5, testing the new control. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode I talk about challenge #5, testing the new control.

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]]> 841 no 2CCX Challenge 4: Find A New Product Origin Story... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/2ccx-challenge-4-find-a-new-product-origin-story On this episode I talk about challenge #4, finding a new product origin story. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, everyone this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you're enjoying this week of challenges. Today we're going to be moving into challenge number four. This is finding a new product origin story. Now, again, this is parts of a training that I recorded with my Two Comma Club X High End Coaching Members and you guys are having a really cool chance to listen to behind the scenes of what I taught them and hopefully this gives you ideas on some cool ways and some simple ways to make your business more successful. So that said we're going to cue the theme song. When we come back, you'll have a chance to listen to challenge number four. So challenge number four is going back to whatever thing you're selling, your product, your book, your webinar, whatever it is. I want to challenge you guys to find a new product origin story from some separate things, some sexy hook you can then tie back into the thing that you're selling and try that on an ad, try it on your landing page. Try it on something and just see if you can amplify what it is you're selling. I did a podcast three years ago and I didn't know how to explain it. I think I called it, turn up the sexy or something. I said, "I don't know how to explain this, but you take your offer and you have to make it sexier." Most people's offers are so bland. It's like someone comes to the page, "Oh, nah, I can do without it." But if you come to the page and you're, "Oh my gosh, if I don't have that thing, I can't sleep tonight." That's what you need and it comes back to turning it sexier. I didn't know how to explain that. It's just ah, try help people and make it sexier, make it more exciting, make it... How do you do that? I couldn't explain it. And this report, I read that and I was, this is the most simple, easy way to do that is to find this outside third-party story that uniquely is interesting and fascinating and then tie it back to your product. And so hopefully that helps. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0000 2CCX Challenge 4: Find A New Product Origin Story... full 389 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode I talk about challenge #4, finding a new product origin story. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, everyone this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing... On this episode I talk about challenge #4, finding a new product origin story. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, everyone this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you're enjoying this week of challenges. Today we're going to be moving into challenge number four. This is finding a new product origin story. Now, again, this is parts of a training that I recorded with my Two Comma Club X High End Coaching Members and you guys are having a really cool chance to listen to behind the scenes of what I taught them and hopefully this gives you ideas on some cool ways and some simple ways to make your business more successful. So that said we're going to cue the theme song. When we come back, you'll have a chance to listen to challenge number four. So challenge number four is going back to whatever thing you're selling, your product, your book, your webinar, whatever it is. I want to challenge you guys to find a new product origin story from some separate things, some sexy hook you can then tie back into the thing that you're selling and try that on an ad, try it on your landing page. Try it on something and just see if you can amplify what it is you're selling. I did a podcast three years ago and I didn't know how to explain it. I think I called it, turn up the sexy or something. I said, "I don't know how to explain this, but you take your offer and you have to make it sexier." Most people's offers are so bland. It's like someone comes to the page, "Oh, nah, I can do without it." But if you come to the page and you're, "Oh my gosh, if I don't have that thing, I can't sleep tonight." That's what you need and it comes back to turning it sexier. I didn't know how to explain that. It's just ah, try help people and make it sexier, make it more exciting, make it... How do you do that? I couldn't explain it. And this report, I read that and I was, this is the most simple, easy way to do that is to find this outside third-party story that uniquely is interesting and fascinating and then tie it back to your product. And so hopefully that helps. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode I talk about challenge #4, finding a new product origin story.

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Hey, everyone this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you're enjoying this week of challenges. Today we're going to be moving into challenge number four. This is finding a new product origin story. Now, again, this is parts of a training that I recorded with my Two Comma Club X High End Coaching Members and you guys are having a really cool chance to listen to behind the scenes of what I taught them and hopefully this gives you ideas on some cool ways and some simple ways to make your business more successful. So that said we're going to cue the theme song. When we come back, you'll have a chance to listen to challenge number four.

So challenge number four is going back to whatever thing you're selling, your product, your book, your webinar, whatever it is. I want to challenge you guys to find a new product origin story from some separate things, some sexy hook you can then tie back into the thing that you're selling and try that on an ad, try it on your landing page. Try it on something and just see if you can amplify what it is you're selling. I did a podcast three years ago and I didn't know how to explain it. I think I called it, turn up the sexy or something. I said, "I don't know how to explain this, but you take your offer and you have to make it sexier." Most people's offers are so bland. It's like someone comes to the page, "Oh, nah, I can do without it."

But if you come to the page and you're, "Oh my gosh, if I don't have that thing, I can't sleep tonight." That's what you need and it comes back to turning it sexier. I didn't know how to explain that. It's just ah, try help people and make it sexier, make it more exciting, make it... How do you do that? I couldn't explain it. And this report, I read that and I was, this is the most simple, easy way to do that is to find this outside third-party story that uniquely is interesting and fascinating and then tie it back to your product. And so hopefully that helps.

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]]> 238 no 2CCX Challenge 3: Do 100 "Speeches" To Other People’s Audiences https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/2ccx-challenge-3-do-100-speeches-to-other-peoples-audiences On this episode I talk about challenge #3, doing 100 speeches to other people’s audiences. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I hope that you've enjoyed the last two episodes. Challenge number one, we talked about simplifying your business. Challenge number two is talking about publishing daily for existing audience. And now, challenge number three is called, do a hundred speeches to other people's audiences. Now, these are all parts of a special presentation I gave them at Two Comma Club X high end coaching members earlier this year and I wanted to break it up and share it with you guys because I thought there's a lot of value in it. Hopefully, it'll get the wheels in your head spinning about how to have more success with your online business. With that said, we are now going to cue the theme song. When we come back, here's a listen-in on challenge number three. Now, I want to go to the next step. Next step is send an email a day. These are people that are already on your list, right? The definition of you sending an email a day to your list is, they're already on your list. Now, we're talking about, how do we get more people onto the list? Okay. I think that for the most part, most of you guys here in the community, you get good at publishing, but for the most part, publishing happens to your existing group, right? The podcast, it's going to the people who are on my podcast. If I'm doing a Facebook live, it's for the people who are on my Facebook live. If I'm doing an email on my list, it's for people on my email list, right? It's targeting the people who are already following you and the more you do it, the more people will come and follow you but what I want to challenge everyone to do is, how do I amplify the number of people who are on my platform? How do I get more people coming to me so that when I'm doing a podcast, I'm doing an email, more people see it? I want to show you guys a story of something cool that I saw one of my friends, his name is Eric Lofholm and January 1st this year, he posted something on Facebook. At first, I was like, "Huh? Interesting." He posted this, he said, let's see if I can pop it here, he said, this is on January 2nd. I think January 1st, he said, "I have a goal. I'm going to try to do 550 speeches this year. January second, he gave speech number one of 2020, shooting for 550 speeches this year." I was like, "Huh, that's interesting." I'm like, "I wonder where this is going to go. I'm really curious." Then, the next day or January four, two days later. "My goal this year is to do 550 speeches. So far, I've been posting my year to date results. I had two people reach out to me to book me. Yay! No speeches today, I'm at seven for the year so far. A few people asked me my definition of a speech. Here it is: a talk that reaches two or more people." Okay? The definition of the speech: a talk that reaches two or more people. That includes being a guest speaker at sales meeting, delivering a seminar, being on a podcast, delivering a webinar, delivering a keynote or a corporate training. Anyway, that's what he defines that. As long as two people are listening, he considers it a speech. Okay? All right. And then, January 6th, "I'm off to my goal of 2020. Here are my results today. Delivered five speeches, had nine coaching calls, booked two speeches, created four pieces of content delivered one sales presentation at two members of my team. My speech goal was 550 for the year, I'm at 12 speeches so far a year today." That's January 6th, so his average is basically two a day since the beginning of the year. "January 8th, three speeches so far today. Reached about 300 people this morning, 2020 goal, 550 speeches, 18 speeches a year today so far. January 9th, three speeches today, 22 speeches a year today. January 13th, six speeches today 32 speeches a year today. January 14th, eight speeches today, 40 speeches a month to day. January 15th, three speeches today, 43 a year today, 550 is the goal. January 16th, five speeches today, 48 a year today, 550 is the goal. January 17th, two speeches today, 50 ..." and it keeps going on. "January 20th, five speeches today. January 21st, 62 a year today. January 13th, 68 today. January 22nd, 65. January 24th, 74. January 27th, 78." He's one month in, he's got 78 speeches he's given all pushing people into his funnel. He's not pitching to his existing audience. We talked about publishing to your existing audience and most of you guys are doing that. Now, this is going outside, doing speeches to other people's audiences to bring people into your world, sucking them in the lead magnet. If we're not bringing new leads, new people in, then our funnels, our publishing wells will eventually start drying up. Okay. "February 3rd, 98 a year today. February 14th, 127 a year today. February 24th, 148 today. February 28th, March 4th, March 4th." It keeps going, "March 19th, 202 speeches today." All right. It keeps going on from there. Do you guys see what he's doing? Obviously, publishing daily to his own audience, he's going to have to figure out, where can I go and I can give a speech? He devises a speech to somebody else's audience to get more people coming in. Okay. My question for you guys is, again, instead of focusing on building the next new funnel, it's, where can I go to find people to bring people into my funnel? How can I do more of this? Okay? And by Eric putting out this intention of, I'm going to do 500 speeches on other people's fan pages, other people's podcasts, other people's things this year, it's more than one a day. It's forcing me to do it and you look at, the momentum is slow at first, slow at first and the more he did, the more he booked and now, March 19th, he's two months into the new year's, he's got 202 already done of his 550 goal. If he keeps consistent with these, he probably could 2,000 or 3,000 and winning is going to happen to his business, because of that. How many leads and customers and people are going to come into his funnel because he's out there doing presentations to bring people into his world. All right. I was talking to Stacy Martino yesterday and she's like, "Hey, I want to put you on our podcast or do a Facebook live to do your book. I've seen you a lot." I'm like, "Yeah, I've done a lot." In fact, how many of you guys have seen this? I've been doing, on average right now, I'm doing eight a day. I'm doing eight speeches a day, 30 minutes speeches to other people's lists. Okay, I’m in quarantine, I got nothing else to do. Eight a day, I do 30 minutes speeches and I'm doing eight a day right now. Last week, we did eight times five so I did 40. This week, I took Friday off to hang out with you guys but pretty much did almost 35, 40 this week. And from that, we've sold over 30,000 copies of the book. I'm going out there doing the thing, doing the thing, doing the thing. The question then obviously is, "Where do I do speeches to?" I don't know, and it comes back to the foundation of what we've been talking about and teaching you guys for years now, it's the Dream 100. I want you to look at this from a different lens. I think a lot of times, people build this Dream 100 list and they sit on it waiting, "Well, someday I'm going to send them a package with my box" or "Someday, I'm going to do it." And I'm like, "No, no, today's the day." This is how I want to challenge all of you guys to do this, is come back to your Dream 100 list and say, "Hey, on Facebook, who are the people that I could potentially do a speech on their fan page to?" And then, list out those people. "On Instagram, who are the people I could potentially do a speech to their audience with?" And list out the people. "Who are the podcasts that I could potentially speak on a podcast? Who are the YouTubers I can make a YouTube video with? Who are the emailers with emails? Who are the bloggers who have a blog?" And making that list and then, it's not to wait until someday your thing's ready, it's today. Send an email and say, what I recommend is email and Facebook to say, "Hey man, I'm a fan of your Facebook following. I have this really cool free report I wrote called 17 Ways To Do Awesome Stuff and I have a presentation that I can give and I can go anywhere from 10 minutes to 30 minutes, it's going to help people to be more productive. And then at the end of it, I'll give them a free copy of my PDF with 17 Ways To Be More Productive. Can I come and do that presentation to your audience? I think they would love it." And you asked first person. Send an email, second person, "Hey, Joe. I'm a fan of your Facebook page. Love what you do, I watch all your episodes. My favorite one has been this. I have a question for you. I have a really cool report I wrote right out called 17 Ways To Be More Profitable In The Coronavirus Thing and I would love to come and give a 10 to 15 minute presentation on your fan page with you where I can go through these things and then give people a free copy of the thing. Can I do that? Would you mention me? I'm doing a speech for free to your people." Cool. Next person, next person and just emailing them, one at a time, one at a time, one at a time. If you email 10, 15, 30, a hundred people, how many speeches do you think you could land? My guess is, if you email a hundred people, you'd lend a minimum of 10 speeches. And I guess it's probably a lot higher, but you get 20 or 30 of them. I don't care who you are, if you've got no name at this point, it doesn't matter if you got a sexy hook, something that's timely for their audience, a free presentation you normally charge for you give for free to their people, you'll be able to get people right out to come and play. Come on. Especially since I have this community, can you network with each other, can you guys do speeches to each other's lists?? Now's the time to start getting out there and sharing your message. Now that I'm in quarantine I'm doing it as well. Usually, I'm so busy I'm not able to do presentations, but man, I've been doing all my crazy and what's happening? We're filling our funnel with brand new leads, brand new people every single day. Okay? I want to challenge you guys to do a hundred speeches to other people's audiences over the next 12 months. The rest of this calendar year. Okay? That means it's one every, every other day, every third day or something like that. Basically, make a lot at first but if you're like Eric Lofholm, I just showed you guys, it starts slow and as you do one, it opens the next one and the next one and the next one and it'll be able to ramp up over time. But this is how you're getting new people in so this is different than publishing daily. Yes, I said, "Spend 20 minutes publishing something daily to your existing audience and then go out there and do at least one presentation a day to get new people into your audience so they can see the stuff you're publishing every day." Promotion, publishing. Promotion, publishing. Okay? They're hand in hand. I think I've done a disservice on telling you to publish, publish, publish, and people are like, "I'm publishing and nothing's happening." It's like, "Okay, now, you've got to promote what you're publishing. Getting people in and out. It goes out to going to the different audiences in your Dream 100, doing presentations, doing speeches to everyone and call them to get people to hear a lead magnet so they can hear your publishing and you can sell them the one thing you actually tried to sell them at the end. Do that makes sense? Yeah. Coleen said, "At first, sometimes, it seems hard, but then it snowballs and everyone wants to have you on their show." Yes, yes. Yes. Someone said, "How do you find these audiences?" It's easy. Let's say it's podcasting. You're on a podcast app and I go ahead and I'm like, "Okay." I scroll down to where it says Top Shows, I click on Top Shows. Right next to Top Shows, it says See All so I click on See All and it's showing all the top shows and at the very top here, it says Categories. What category am I in? I click Categories and then here's all the categories in iTunes. There's news, comedy, sports, history, true crime, social culture, arts, business, education, fiction, government, health and fitness kids and family, leisure, music, religious spirituality, science, technology and TV and film. There's the categories in iTunes. If you're like, "My business doesn't fit in those categories," you may not be in a good business because if there's not people podcasting about the thing that you're selling or the market you're in, it may not be a big enough business to really focus on. Your business should fit into one of these categories. I'm going to be like, "Okay, let's say I am a health and fitness," I'm looking at the fitness. Boom, it shows me the top podcasts in health and fitness, the top 200 podcasts. I just gave you, if your health and fitness, there's 200 Dream, 100s so you already doubled how many people you need to have. I'm going to go to every single show host, I'm going to contact them and be like, "What's up, dude. I see that you run the Adaptive At-Home Workouts. I have a finished product. I would love to do presentation showing my number one best workout blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Okay? And then you go through person by person by person. The next question is, "Russell, how do I find their contact information?" I don't know, you just start clicking around. So click on this right here, it says Sometimes Everyone Hears Things. There's no contact so listen to the podcast and see what do they pitch at the end, what website they sent me to. Then, you go to the website URL I look for contact link. It's just doing the research, doing the homework. Okay? Now, there's 200 people on Podcasters. Now, those are the top 200, but the good news is there's even more. In fact, the Marketing Secrets Podcast gets 15,000 downloads per episode and it's not even in the top 200 in the business category. There are tons of big podcasts you can be on that aren't in the top 200. Then, you can just go to the search bar here and type in, "health and fitness" or in a keyword, type in, "biohacking." I'll type in "biohacking" and I click on it and biohacking may not be the top 200 in health and fitness, but holy cow, there are probably 50, 60, 70 different biohacking podcasts here. Biohacking. Then you go there. There's just podcasts alone. Then, go to Google and type in, "biohacking blogs, biohacking YouTube channels," go to Facebook and start searching biohacking, you start searching it and you go on that thing and you start finding just swarms of people that you could challenge to do with. Cool? Does that help you guys? YouTube, same thing, YouTube, same with Google. They're everywhere. All right. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0000 2CCX Challenge 3: Do 100 "Speeches" To Other People’s Audiences full 388 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode I talk about challenge #3, doing 100 speeches to other people’s audiences. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back... On this episode I talk about challenge #3, doing 100 speeches to other people’s audiences. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I hope that you've enjoyed the last two episodes. Challenge number one, we talked about simplifying your business. Challenge number two is talking about publishing daily for existing audience. And now, challenge number three is called, do a hundred speeches to other people's audiences. Now, these are all parts of a special presentation I gave them at Two Comma Club X high end coaching members earlier this year and I wanted to break it up and share it with you guys because I thought there's a lot of value in it. Hopefully, it'll get the wheels in your head spinning about how to have more success with your online business. With that said, we are now going to cue the theme song. When we come back, here's a listen-in on challenge number three. Now, I want to go to the next step. Next step is send an email a day. These are people that are already on your list, right? The definition of you sending an email a day to your list is, they're already on your list. Now, we're talking about, how do we get more people onto the list? Okay. I think that for the most part, most of you guys here in the community, you get good at publishing, but for the most part, publishing happens to your existing group, right? The podcast, it's going to the people who are on my podcast. If I'm doing a Facebook live, it's for the people who are on my Facebook live. If I'm doing an email on my list, it's for people on my email list, right? It's targeting the people who are already following you and the more you do it, the more people will come and follow you but what I want to challenge everyone to do is, how do I amplify the number of people who are on my platform? How do I get more people coming to me so that when I'm doing a podcast, I'm doing an email, more people see it? I want to show you guys a story of something cool that I saw one of my friends, his name is Eric Lofholm and January 1st this year, he posted something on Facebook. At first, I was like, "Huh? Interesting." He posted this, he said, let's see if I can pop it here, he said, this is on January 2nd. I think January 1st, he said, "I have a goal. I'm going to try to do 550 speeches this year. January second, he gave speech number one of 2020, shooting for 550 speeches this year." I was like, "Huh, that's interesting." I'm like, "I wonder where this is going to go. I'm really curious." Then, the next day or January four, two days later. "My goal this year is to do 550 speeches. So far, I've been posting my year to date results. I had two people reach out to me to book me. Yay! No speeches today, I'm at seven for the year so far. A few people asked me my definition of a speech. Here it is: a talk that reaches two or more people." Okay? The definition of the speech: a talk that reaches two or more people. That includes being a guest speaker at sales meeting, delivering a seminar, being on a podcast, delivering a webinar, delivering a keynote or a corporate training. Anyway, that's what he defines that. As long as two people are listening, he considers it a speech. Okay? All right. And then, January 6th, "I'm off to my goal of 2020. Here are my results today. Delivered five speeches, had nine coaching calls, booked two speeches, created four pieces of content delivered one sales presentation at two members of my team. My speech goal was 550 for the year, I'm at 12 speeches so far a year today." That's January 6th, so his average is basically two a day since the beginning of the year. "January 8th, three speeches so far today. Reached about 300 people this morning, 2020 goal, 550 speeches, 18 speeches a year today so far. January 9th, three speeches today, 22 speeches a year today. January 13th, six speeches today 32 speeches a year today. January 14th, eight speeches today, 40 speeches a month to day. January 15th, three speeches today, 43 a year today, 550 is the goal. January 16th, five speeches today, 48 a year today, 550 is the goal. January 17th, two speeches today, 50 ..." and it keeps going on. "January 20th, five speeches today. January 21st, 62 a year today. January 13th, 68 today. January 22nd, 65. January 24th, 74. January 27th, 78." He's one month in, he's got 78 speeches he's given all pushing people into his funnel. He's not pitching to his existing audience. We talked about publishing to your existing audience and most of you guys are doing that. Now, this is going outside, doing speeches to other people's audiences to bring people into your world, sucking them in the lead magnet. If we're not bringing new leads, new people in, then our funnels, our publishing wells will eventually start drying up. Okay. "February 3rd, 98 a year today. February 14th, 127 a year today. February 24th, 148 today. February 28th, March 4th, March 4th." It keeps going, "March 19th, 202 speeches today." All right. It keeps going on from there. Do you guys see what he's doing? Obviously, publishing daily to his own audience, he's going to have to figure out, where can I go and I can give a speech? He devises a speech to somebody else's audience to get more people coming in. Okay. My question for you guys is, again, instead of focusing on building the next new funnel, it's, where can I go to find people to bring people into my funnel? How can I do more of this? Okay? And by Eric putting out this intention of, I'm going to do 500 speeches on other people's fan pages, other people's podcasts, other people's things this year, it's more than one a day. It's forcing me to do it and you look at, the momentum is slow at first, slow at first and the more he did, the more he booked and now, March 19th, he's two months into the new year's, he's got 202 already done of his 550 goal. If he keeps consistent with these, he probably could 2,000 or 3,000 and winning is going to happen to his business, because of that. How many leads and customers and people are going to come into his funnel because he's out there doing presentations to bring people into his world. All right. I was talking to Stacy Martino yesterday and she's like, "Hey, I want to put you on our podcast or do a Facebook live to do your book. I've seen you a lot." I'm like, "Yeah, I've done a lot." In fact, how many of you guys have seen this? I've been doing, on average right now, I'm doing eight a day. I'm doing eight speeches a day, 30 minutes speeches to other people's lists. Okay, I’m in quarantine, I got nothing else to do. Eight a day, I do 30 minutes speeches and I'm doing eight a day right now. Last week, we did eight times five so I did 40. This week, I took Friday off to hang out with you guys but pretty much did almost 35, 40 this week. And from that, we've sold over 30,000 copies of the book. I'm going out there doing the thing, doing the thing, doing the thing. The question then obviously is, "Where do I do speeches to?" I don't know, and it comes back to the foundation of what we've been talking about and teaching you guys for years now, it's the Dream 100. I want you to look at this from a different lens. I think a lot of times, people build this Dream 100 list and they sit on it waiting, "Well, someday I'm going to send them a package with my box" or "Someday, I'm going to do it." And I'm like, "No, no, today's the day." This is how I want to challenge all of you guys to do this, is come back to your Dream 100 list and say, "Hey, on Facebook, who are the people that I could potentially do a speech on their fan page to?" And then, list out those people. "On Instagram, who are the people I could potentially do a speech to their audience with?" And list out the people. "Who are the podcasts that I could potentially speak on a podcast? Who are the YouTubers I can make a YouTube video with? Who are the emailers with emails? Who are the bloggers who have a blog?" And making that list and then, it's not to wait until someday your thing's ready, it's today. Send an email and say, what I recommend is email and Facebook to say, "Hey man, I'm a fan of your Facebook following. I have this really cool free report I wrote called 17 Ways To Do Awesome Stuff and I have a presentation that I can give and I can go anywhere from 10 minutes to 30 minutes, it's going to help people to be more productive. And then at the end of it, I'll give them a free copy of my PDF with 17 Ways To Be More Productive. Can I come and do that presentation to your audience? I think they would love it." And you asked first person. Send an email, second person, "Hey, Joe. I'm a fan of your Facebook page. Love what you do, I watch all your episodes. My favorite one has been this. I have a question for you. I have a really cool report I wrote right out called 17 Ways To Be More Profitable In The Coronavirus Thing and I would love to come and give a 10 to 15 minute presentation on your fan page with you where I can go through these things and then give people a free copy of the thing. Can I do that? Would you mention me? I'm doing a speech for free to your people." Cool. Next person, next person and just emailing them, one at a time, one at a time, one at a time. If you email 10, 15, 30, a hundred people, how many speeches do you think you could land? My guess is, if you email a hundred people, you'd lend a minimum of 10 speeches. And I guess it's probably a lot higher, but you get 20 or 30 of them. I don't care who you are, if you've got no name at this point, it doesn't matter if you got a sexy hook, something that's timely for their audience, a free presentation you normally charge for you give for free to their people, you'll be able to get people right out to come and play. Come on. Especially since I have this community, can you network with each other, can you guys do speeches to each other's lists?? Now's the time to start getting out there and sharing your message. Now that I'm in quarantine I'm doing it as well. Usually, I'm so busy I'm not able to do presentations, but man, I've been doing all my crazy and what's happening? We're filling our funnel with brand new leads, brand new people every single day. Okay? I want to challenge you guys to do a hundred speeches to other people's audiences over the next 12 months. The rest of this calendar year. Okay? That means it's one every, every other day, every third day or something like that. Basically, make a lot at first but if you're like Eric Lofholm, I just showed you guys, it starts slow and as you do one, it opens the next one and the next one and the next one and it'll be able to ramp up over time. But this is how you're getting new people in so this is different than publishing daily. Yes, I said, "Spend 20 minutes publishing something daily to your existing audience and then go out there and do at least one presentation a day to get new people into your audience so they can see the stuff you're publishing every day." Promotion, publishing. Promotion, publishing. Okay? They're hand in hand. I think I've done a disservice on telling you to publish, publish, publish, and people are like, "I'm publishing and nothing's happening." It's like, "Okay, now, you've got to promote what you're publishing. Getting people in and out. It goes out to going to the different audiences in your Dream 100, doing presentations, doing speeches to everyone and call them to get people to hear a lead magnet so they can hear your publishing and you can sell them the one thing you actually tried to sell them at the end. Do that makes sense? Yeah. Coleen said, "At first, sometimes, it seems hard, but then it snowballs and everyone wants to have you on their show." Yes, yes. Yes. Someone said, "How do you find these audiences?" It's easy. Let's say it's podcasting. You're on a podcast app and I go ahead and I'm like, "Okay." I scroll down to where it says Top Shows, I click on Top Shows. Right next to Top Shows, it says See All so I click on See All and it's showing all the top shows and at the very top here, it says Categories. What category am I in? I click Categories and then here's all the categories in iTunes. There's news, comedy, sports, history, true crime, social culture, arts, business, education, fiction, government, health and fitness kids and family, leisure, music, religious spirituality, science, technology and TV and film. There's the categories in iTunes. If you're like, "My business doesn't fit in those categories," you may not be in a good business because if there's not people podcasting about the thing that you're selling or the market you're in, it may not be a big enough business to really focus on. Your business should fit into one of these categories. I'm going to be like, "Okay, let's say I am a health and fitness," I'm looking at the fitness. Boom, it shows me the top podcasts in health and fitness, the top 200 podcasts. I just gave you, if your health and fitness, there's 200 Dream, 100s so you already doubled how many people you need to have. I'm going to go to every single show host, I'm going to contact them and be like, "What's up, dude. I see that you run the Adaptive At-Home Workouts. I have a finished product. I would love to do presentation showing my number one best workout blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Okay? And then you go through person by person by person. The next question is, "Russell, how do I find their contact information?" I don't know, you just start clicking around. So click on this right here, it says Sometimes Everyone Hears Things. There's no contact so listen to the podcast and see what do they pitch at the end, what website they sent me to. Then, you go to the website URL I look for contact link. It's just doing the research, doing the homework. Okay? Now, there's 200 people on Podcasters. Now, those are the top 200, but the good news is there's even more. In fact, the Marketing Secrets Podcast gets 15,000 downloads per episode and it's not even in the top 200 in the business category. There are tons of big podcasts you can be on that aren't in the top 200. Then, you can just go to the search bar here and type in, "health and fitness" or in a keyword, type in, "biohacking." I'll type in "biohacking" and I click on it and biohacking may not be the top 200 in health and fitness, but holy cow, there are probably 50, 60, 70 different biohacking podcasts here. Biohacking. Then you go there. There's just podcasts alone. Then, go to Google and type in, "biohacking blogs, biohacking YouTube channels," go to Facebook and start searching biohacking, you start searching it and you go on that thing and you start finding just swarms of people that you could challenge to do with. Cool? Does that help you guys? YouTube, same thing, YouTube, same with Google. They're everywhere. All right. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode I talk about challenge #3, doing 100 speeches to other people’s audiences.

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---Transcript---

What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I hope that you've enjoyed the last two episodes.

Challenge number one, we talked about simplifying your business. Challenge number two is talking about publishing daily for existing audience. And now, challenge number three is called, do a hundred speeches to other people's audiences.

Now, these are all parts of a special presentation I gave them at Two Comma Club X high end coaching members earlier this year and I wanted to break it up and share it with you guys because I thought there's a lot of value in it. Hopefully, it'll get the wheels in your head spinning about how to have more success with your online business.

With that said, we are now going to cue the theme song. When we come back, here's a listen-in on challenge number three.

Now, I want to go to the next step. Next step is send an email a day. These are people that are already on your list, right? The definition of you sending an email a day to your list is, they're already on your list.

Now, we're talking about, how do we get more people onto the list? Okay. I think that for the most part, most of you guys here in the community, you get good at publishing, but for the most part, publishing happens to your existing group, right? The podcast, it's going to the people who are on my podcast. If I'm doing a Facebook live, it's for the people who are on my Facebook live. If I'm doing an email on my list, it's for people on my email list, right? It's targeting the people who are already following you and the more you do it, the more people will come and follow you but what I want to challenge everyone to do is, how do I amplify the number of people who are on my platform? How do I get more people coming to me so that when I'm doing a podcast, I'm doing an email, more people see it?

I want to show you guys a story of something cool that I saw one of my friends, his name is Eric Lofholm and January 1st this year, he posted something on Facebook. At first, I was like, "Huh? Interesting." He posted this, he said, let's see if I can pop it here, he said, this is on January 2nd. I think January 1st, he said, "I have a goal. I'm going to try to do 550 speeches this year. January second, he gave speech number one of 2020, shooting for 550 speeches this year." I was like, "Huh, that's interesting."

I'm like, "I wonder where this is going to go. I'm really curious." Then, the next day or January four, two days later. "My goal this year is to do 550 speeches. So far, I've been posting my year to date results. I had two people reach out to me to book me. Yay! No speeches today, I'm at seven for the year so far. A few people asked me my definition of a speech. Here it is: a talk that reaches two or more people." Okay? The definition of the speech: a talk that reaches two or more people. That includes being a guest speaker at sales meeting, delivering a seminar, being on a podcast, delivering a webinar, delivering a keynote or a corporate training. Anyway, that's what he defines that. As long as two people are listening, he considers it a speech. Okay? All right.

And then, January 6th, "I'm off to my goal of 2020. Here are my results today. Delivered five speeches, had nine coaching calls, booked two speeches, created four pieces of content delivered one sales presentation at two members of my team. My speech goal was 550 for the year, I'm at 12 speeches so far a year today." That's January 6th, so his average is basically two a day since the beginning of the year.

"January 8th, three speeches so far today. Reached about 300 people this morning, 2020 goal, 550 speeches, 18 speeches a year today so far. January 9th, three speeches today, 22 speeches a year today. January 13th, six speeches today 32 speeches a year today. January 14th, eight speeches today, 40 speeches a month to day. January 15th, three speeches today, 43 a year today, 550 is the goal. January 16th, five speeches today, 48 a year today, 550 is the goal. January 17th, two speeches today, 50 ..." and it keeps going on. "January 20th, five speeches today. January 21st, 62 a year today. January 13th, 68 today. January 22nd, 65. January 24th, 74. January 27th, 78."

He's one month in, he's got 78 speeches he's given all pushing people into his funnel. He's not pitching to his existing audience. We talked about publishing to your existing audience and most of you guys are doing that. Now, this is going outside, doing speeches to other people's audiences to bring people into your world, sucking them in the lead magnet. If we're not bringing new leads, new people in, then our funnels, our publishing wells will eventually start drying up.

Okay. "February 3rd, 98 a year today. February 14th, 127 a year today. February 24th, 148 today. February 28th, March 4th, March 4th." It keeps going, "March 19th, 202 speeches today." All right. It keeps going on from there. Do you guys see what he's doing? Obviously, publishing daily to his own audience, he's going to have to figure out, where can I go and I can give a speech? He devises a speech to somebody else's audience to get more people coming in. Okay.

My question for you guys is, again, instead of focusing on building the next new funnel, it's, where can I go to find people to bring people into my funnel? How can I do more of this? Okay? And by Eric putting out this intention of, I'm going to do 500 speeches on other people's fan pages, other people's podcasts, other people's things this year, it's more than one a day. It's forcing me to do it and you look at, the momentum is slow at first, slow at first and the more he did, the more he booked and now, March 19th, he's two months into the new year's, he's got 202 already done of his 550 goal. If he keeps consistent with these, he probably could 2,000 or 3,000 and winning is going to happen to his business, because of that. How many leads and customers and people are going to come into his funnel because he's out there doing presentations to bring people into his world.

All right. I was talking to Stacy Martino yesterday and she's like, "Hey, I want to put you on our podcast or do a Facebook live to do your book. I've seen you a lot." I'm like, "Yeah, I've done a lot." In fact, how many of you guys have seen this? I've been doing, on average right now, I'm doing eight a day. I'm doing eight speeches a day, 30 minutes speeches to other people's lists.

Okay, I’m in quarantine, I got nothing else to do. Eight a day, I do 30 minutes speeches and I'm doing eight a day right now. Last week, we did eight times five so I did 40. This week, I took Friday off to hang out with you guys but pretty much did almost 35, 40 this week. And from that, we've sold over 30,000 copies of the book. I'm going out there doing the thing, doing the thing, doing the thing.

The question then obviously is, "Where do I do speeches to?" I don't know, and it comes back to the foundation of what we've been talking about and teaching you guys for years now, it's the Dream 100.

I want you to look at this from a different lens. I think a lot of times, people build this Dream 100 list and they sit on it waiting, "Well, someday I'm going to send them a package with my box" or "Someday, I'm going to do it." And I'm like, "No, no, today's the day."

This is how I want to challenge all of you guys to do this, is come back to your Dream 100 list and say, "Hey, on Facebook, who are the people that I could potentially do a speech on their fan page to?" And then, list out those people. "On Instagram, who are the people I could potentially do a speech to their audience with?" And list out the people. "Who are the podcasts that I could potentially speak on a podcast? Who are the YouTubers I can make a YouTube video with? Who are the emailers with emails? Who are the bloggers who have a blog?" And making that list and then, it's not to wait until someday your thing's ready, it's today. Send an email and say, what I recommend is email and Facebook to say, "Hey man, I'm a fan of your Facebook following. I have this really cool free report I wrote called 17 Ways To Do Awesome Stuff and I have a presentation that I can give and I can go anywhere from 10 minutes to 30 minutes, it's going to help people to be more productive. And then at the end of it, I'll give them a free copy of my PDF with 17 Ways To Be More Productive. Can I come and do that presentation to your audience? I think they would love it."

And you asked first person. Send an email, second person, "Hey, Joe. I'm a fan of your Facebook page. Love what you do, I watch all your episodes. My favorite one has been this. I have a question for you. I have a really cool report I wrote right out called 17 Ways To Be More Profitable In The Coronavirus Thing and I would love to come and give a 10 to 15 minute presentation on your fan page with you where I can go through these things and then give people a free copy of the thing. Can I do that? Would you mention me? I'm doing a speech for free to your people." Cool. Next person, next person and just emailing them, one at a time, one at a time, one at a time.

If you email 10, 15, 30, a hundred people, how many speeches do you think you could land? My guess is, if you email a hundred people, you'd lend a minimum of 10 speeches. And I guess it's probably a lot higher, but you get 20 or 30 of them. I don't care who you are, if you've got no name at this point, it doesn't matter if you got a sexy hook, something that's timely for their audience, a free presentation you normally charge for you give for free to their people, you'll be able to get people right out to come and play. Come on.

Especially since I have this community, can you network with each other, can you guys do speeches to each other's lists?? Now's the time to start getting out there and sharing your message. Now that I'm in quarantine I'm doing it as well. Usually, I'm so busy I'm not able to do presentations, but man, I've been doing all my crazy and what's happening? We're filling our funnel with brand new leads, brand new people every single day. Okay?

I want to challenge you guys to do a hundred speeches to other people's audiences over the next 12 months. The rest of this calendar year. Okay? That means it's one every, every other day, every third day or something like that.

Basically, make a lot at first but if you're like Eric Lofholm, I just showed you guys, it starts slow and as you do one, it opens the next one and the next one and the next one and it'll be able to ramp up over time. But this is how you're getting new people in so this is different than publishing daily. Yes, I said, "Spend 20 minutes publishing something daily to your existing audience and then go out there and do at least one presentation a day to get new people into your audience so they can see the stuff you're publishing every day." Promotion, publishing. Promotion, publishing. Okay? They're hand in hand. I think I've done a disservice on telling you to publish, publish, publish, and people are like, "I'm publishing and nothing's happening." It's like, "Okay, now, you've got to promote what you're publishing. Getting people in and out. It goes out to going to the different audiences in your Dream 100, doing presentations, doing speeches to everyone and call them to get people to hear a lead magnet so they can hear your publishing and you can sell them the one thing you actually tried to sell them at the end. Do that makes sense? Yeah.

Coleen said, "At first, sometimes, it seems hard, but then it snowballs and everyone wants to have you on their show." Yes, yes. Yes. Someone said, "How do you find these audiences?" It's easy. Let's say it's podcasting. You're on a podcast app and I go ahead and I'm like, "Okay." I scroll down to where it says Top Shows, I click on Top Shows. Right next to Top Shows, it says See All so I click on See All and it's showing all the top shows and at the very top here, it says Categories.

What category am I in? I click Categories and then here's all the categories in iTunes. There's news, comedy, sports, history, true crime, social culture, arts, business, education, fiction, government, health and fitness kids and family, leisure, music, religious spirituality, science, technology and TV and film. There's the categories in iTunes. If you're like, "My business doesn't fit in those categories," you may not be in a good business because if there's not people podcasting about the thing that you're selling or the market you're in, it may not be a big enough business to really focus on. Your business should fit into one of these categories.

I'm going to be like, "Okay, let's say I am a health and fitness," I'm looking at the fitness. Boom, it shows me the top podcasts in health and fitness, the top 200 podcasts.

I just gave you, if your health and fitness, there's 200 Dream, 100s so you already doubled how many people you need to have. I'm going to go to every single show host, I'm going to contact them and be like, "What's up, dude. I see that you run the Adaptive At-Home Workouts. I have a finished product. I would love to do presentation showing my number one best workout blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Okay? And then you go through person by person by person.

The next question is, "Russell, how do I find their contact information?" I don't know, you just start clicking around. So click on this right here, it says Sometimes Everyone Hears Things. There's no contact so listen to the podcast and see what do they pitch at the end, what website they sent me to. Then, you go to the website URL I look for contact link. It's just doing the research, doing the homework. Okay?

Now, there's 200 people on Podcasters. Now, those are the top 200, but the good news is there's even more. In fact, the Marketing Secrets Podcast gets 15,000 downloads per episode and it's not even in the top 200 in the business category. There are tons of big podcasts you can be on that aren't in the top 200.

Then, you can just go to the search bar here and type in, "health and fitness" or in a keyword, type in, "biohacking." I'll type in "biohacking" and I click on it and biohacking may not be the top 200 in health and fitness, but holy cow, there are probably 50, 60, 70 different biohacking podcasts here. Biohacking. Then you go there. There's just podcasts alone.

Then, go to Google and type in, "biohacking blogs, biohacking YouTube channels," go to Facebook and start searching biohacking, you start searching it and you go on that thing and you start finding just swarms of people that you could challenge to do with. Cool? Does that help you guys?

YouTube, same thing, YouTube, same with Google. They're everywhere. All right.

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]]> 881 no 2CCX Challenge 2: Publish Daily For Your Existing Audience https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/2ccx-challenge-2-publish-daily-for-your-existing-audience On this episode I talk about challenge #2, publishing daily for your existing audience. So tune in and enjoy! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0000 2CCX Challenge 2: Publish Daily For Your Existing Audience full 387 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode I talk about challenge #2, publishing daily for your existing audience. So tune in and enjoy! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell... On this episode I talk about challenge #2, publishing daily for your existing audience. So tune in and enjoy! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode I talk about challenge #2, publishing daily for your existing audience. So tune in and enjoy!

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]]> 433 no 2CCX Challenge 1: Simplify Your Business... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/2ccx-challenge-1-simplify-your-business Welcome to this special episode series! Recently I recorded a training video for my 2CCX students and I made them commit to taking on 5 different challenges that would help them strengthen and grow their businesses. On this first episode we discuss challenge #1, Simplify your business. So tune in and see how these challenges can help you and your business get to where you want to be. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, I want to share with you guys something really cool. So recently I did a training for people who were inside of my Two Comma Club X, high-end coaching program. And the training chat really cool, and I thought it'd be fun to share it with you guys. So I'm actually going to break it up over the next five episodes. There are five challenges that I gave them to do to be more successful inside their business. So, that's kind of the game plan. So each episode we'll cover one of the five challenges, and this very first challenge is called Simplify Your Business. So we're going to cue up the theme song, we come back, you guys will have a chance to hear and behind the scenes of a private training I was doing with my Two Comma Club X, high-end coaching students, and I hope you love it. Whenever I would go to bed, I always like trying to do a lot ahead of time, this is my business model, I know what it is, it's like I'm driving traffic to a landing page, and then from here I'm upselling people on the phone, or I'm doing a webinar, or I can have a structure, like what you're doing, right? And it's all the speakers are coming in that are giving you ideas. The goal is not to be like, "Nevermind, I'm believing that," rip it up and start something new. And the next speaker, you throw it away and something new. Instead, it's like listen to every single speaker and listening to their model and be like, "That's really cool, I love how they're doing that." And then be like, "That piece right there, that one thing that person said, that's something I can take and I can apply to my existing framework, the existing business I'm trying to do." Okay? Because if you're not careful, you're going to hear all, again, we have so many amazing speakers, all of them had their own take on how to do business. If you're not careful, you're going to rip up and rewrite your business plan 20 times in the next two days, which is not going to help you. It's not going to get you to momentum, it's going to get you out of momentum. Right? So the goal of this is to keep the frame or keep the business that you're working on, but then looking for what's the piece of gold from each presentation. Right? I'm going to be sharing these five different things. And each of these things, some of you guys might thing, "That one's not for me. That one's not for me," and, "That's the piece of gold I needed, I can add here, and I can apply to the framework that I've already built. It's going to help me to speed up and help me get to that next spot faster." Okay? And so that's the way I want you guys to start looking at this week, not, "I'm rewriting my business plan 20 times over," it's, "I have 20 amazing people coming, what's the one piece of gold I can take from each speaker that I can apply to the existing thing that I'm already working on to help amplify it and help get me back into momentum?" Does that make sense? So that's kind of the goal. So with that said, I'm going to jump into five different things I kind of wanted to go through with you guys, and I think they're fun. I'm excited for it. So, all right. So the first thing, so again, I got a bunch of just things. So my first thing I want to put out there for everybody is the thought process of how can I simplify my business? How can I simplify my funnels? Last year, we did an affiliate retreat, some of our top affiliates came, and they came to Boise, and then Dave and Miles and everyone, took them out to McCall where they did water skiing and everything. Before they went out to have the big party, because I wasn't invited to the party. I'm just kidding, I was probably invited, I just wasn't able to go. But before they all went, I sat down for like an hour with everybody and kind of asked everyone about their businesses, and everyone asked me some feedback on this stuff. And I remember one of the people who was there, her name is Alex, she asked me the biggest advice. I kind of asked some questions on her business. And really quick, I found out that basically she had like, I don't know, half dozen or more funnels that she had, she was driving traffic to, she was trying to do all these different things. And I said, "Ma'am, my biggest piece of advice for you right now is to simplify everything." I said, "Pick the one funnel that you like the most and delete the rest." This should not be something where we're driving traffic to six or eight or 10 different offers. If you are, it gets very, very difficult. It's hard to focus all your efforts. I think a lot of people see my business and they're like, "Russell, you got eight offers." I'm like, "Yeah, I have 400 employees." You know what I mean? We're doing 10, $15 million a month. Don't necessarily model me because we've got more staff recently. When you get the point where you're trying to go for the billion dollar company, then look at me. But right now, what most guys are trying to zero to a million, million to ten, and ten to a hundred. So in those windows, the thing that's going to drive you is simplicity, one funnel. And what's crazy is as I'm doing this book launch, Alex, she interviewed me on her thing, and she said, "Man, the biggest thing that grew my business the last year is when you were in Boise, and you said I need to kill all my funnels but one. She's like, "I left all stressed out because I love all these funnels. I put so much time and energy, but I thought, everyone says, 'Do what Russell says,' so I'm going to do what Russell says." And she's like, "I killed all these babies and I kept one." And she's like, "Because of that, all my focus is on my ad dollars, my promotions, my content, everything's focused on one thing, and because of that, it's grown." And so I want to challenge you guys today. Again, this comes back to this whole over the next 20 speakers, don't try and reinvent 20 different business models. It's simplifying the one you have and figuring out the nuggets of gold you can apply to it. Okay? So I'm going to show you guys if I was to start over right now, like the most simple model on earth, and this is all I would do, if it was me and I'm trying to make a million to $10 million a year company, I would do this. Okay? And I'm going to show you, it's Ben Settle slide, because Ben is the most consistent, simple business model I've ever seen, and it's exactly what I would do. So Ben has got one product. Since the last couple years, he's developed a couple of other ones, but the reality, all those other products are... so he publishes a monthly newsletter. It's 97 bucks a month. You get a physical print newsletter in the mail every single month. And that's kind of what his business model is. And if you see, he sells other things, all he's done is over the last 10 years, he's been publishing this newsletter. He'll be like, "What are all the newsletters on this topic?" And he'll take like 30 issues, and he puts them with the others, like, "Here's my new product." And it's literally just his issues that are grouped together based on topics. So he only has one thing he does. Every month, he writes the newsletter and he sells it. It's 97 bucks a month. And that's it. Right? And then he's got a squeeze page, and a squeeze page is basically, "Come here, give me your email address, and then I'm going to sell you my newsletter." Right? So people come here, they go to bensettle.com, they put their email address in, and then he has his one product he sells. Basically, what he does is he sends out an email every single day, selling his one product. That's it. That's his business for the 10 years I've known him. I'm on his email list. I get an email every day, sometimes twice a day. And all he does is he promotes one thing and that's his newsletter. That's it. That's the business model, simple, easy, million dollar a year business right there, one product. And he sends an email a day. So you come in and here it is. I was just pulling this today, I took a screenshot just to show you guys. March 11th, there's email. March 11th, there are two emails. March 10th, there were three emails. March 9th, there were two emails. March 8th, my birthday, there were two emails. March 7th, there was email. And just consistently, consistently, right? So his whole business model is get people to come to my squeeze page, they give me their email address, I email them every single day to tell them to buy my one product. And you'll go, "Russell, what if they already bought the product, then what do I email them?" The same thing! Okay? Because guess what it does? It gets people to stick. It's funny, the biggest growth I had in my business was five or six years ago, we decided we were going to focus 100% of our efforts on click funnels. And prior to that, most of you guys probably didn't come into my universe prior to that, but if you would have looked at it before, we had so many different offers, they were all over the place, like something selling this, and this, and this. And so I'm emailing my list, I'm like, "I don't know, I'll promote this today, and then this," and they're all sorts of random things, right? And when we said, "Okay, we're going to sell click funnels," everything's focused on this one thing, one product, one service, then everything grew for us. Right? And even now, if you look at my business, we have front end funnels, like the books and things like that, but the only goal is if you want to buy the book is that you get into click funnels. Everything leads to this one road. And so the business model could be as simple as a squeeze page, get somebody email, to opt in, and then a print newsletter, or a webinar, or a membership, just one thing, right? Or my high-end coaching, whatever the one thing is, and then every day email about it. And even if they bought it, you still email them every single day because it increases their likelihood of sticking. Right? They're seeing another promotion. It's like, "I did buy it. I remember buying that, that was a good thing I bought it. It's a good reminder." It's a stick strategy. Probably three or four times a year, someone on my marketing team will come back and be like, "Russell, we need to use all the Actionetics complex features where people who have already bought this, it pulls down, they don't see any more messages about this and that." And like, "No, stop trying to be so technical and geeky. I don't care some about the book and they get 15 other emails about the book, because guess what? Now they're more likely to actually read the book because I keep selling them." I'm like, "Selling them on buying, it's one thing, but selling them on actually consuming it is another thing. So I'm going to keep telling you about it, and telling you about it, and telling you about it. I don't care if they bought it five times, I want them to keep getting it. If they got it and they've read it, I want them to keep reminding like, 'Yeah, that book was good, I need to go back and read it again, let me reference that thing.'" Right? So don't think that even though Actionetics and every email autoresponder has all these complex features where you can after someone's done this, pull them out so they never see the emails again, that's not necessarily good. Right? Simplify, keep things simple. During Funnel Hacking Live, after Garrett White had his presentation, we had this really cool moment backstage. I would love to, in fact, we did record, I just did the recording of it, but he told me, he's like, "A year ago," he's like, "My technical marketing team just convinced us to move off of Actionetics so we can move to, I can't remember what the other one was, something else, because that we could do all these more complex things and more split testing. And if they bought this, then like," he had this huge map. And he's like, "A year ago, they convinced me to do that." And it was funny because I had tried to convince Todd to let us use a more complex email software too, because I was like, "we can get so much more complex and so much better if we did this." And Todd laughed and he's like, " Dude, Russell, you haven't even finished the follow up sequence, like one, like you're trying to get more complex and you only have a simple, basic one right now." And we told Garrett that year. It's like, "You know what's funny?" He's like, "In the last year, working on this super hyper amazing sequence, it's going to do a million things." He's like, "Because of that, we've never sent an email out to our list during that time, because we bought the complexity, now it was so complex we never actually used it." And he was like, "I'm going home. We're canceling everything, we're moving back, we're just getting back to the simple, send an email every single day." I don't know, there's so many tools that create complexity, and I think that's what's keeping most of us from where we want to be. So strip complexity. And I don't care if you use the Actionetics, or active campaign, or anyway, it doesn't matter, but just simple. Like Ben's model is simple. He doesn't stress out. Every day he spends 15 minutes writing an email, sends it out, sells his one product and that's it. And once a month he writes print newsletter. That's the business. And the guy's written like eight zombie novels since I've known him because he's got nothing else to do all day, other than write a 20 minute email, send an email, do the once a month newsletter he publishes, and then he writes zombie novels all day. That's it. So, simplify. How can we simplify our businesses and quit overcome complexing them. We can do that. Our company now, "Let's pull things back, let's simplify it, simplify." And I think some of you guys may have heard me told this story, I went, this is probably, I don't know, maybe a year ago, I went to John, and obviously I'm obsessed with funnels, right? I'm like, "John, okay, in a perfect world, how many funnels do you want from the funnel team that we can give you, the traffic team, to go to market and drive traffic to?" And I was hoping it was like one a week or two a week, whatever. And he's like, "Two." I'm like, "Okay, what is that two a week, two a month, two a day? You let me know, we will do it." And he's like, "No, two total. That's all we need. I don't need more funnels." He was like, "In fact, if you stop making funnels, we would be completely fine." He was like, "Well, we're good now. We just need you guys focusing more on getting traffic into the funnels we have." That's what he told me. And I was like, "Oh." I remember Brandon and Kaelin Poulin came to our office in Boise. And I was showing them everything like, "This is our funnel building team." And there's like four or five people. And he's like, "What do they do all day?" I'm like, "They build funnels." He's like, "You guys still build funnels?" Like, "Yeah, dude, that's what we do." And he's like, "Huh." He's like, "We built a funnel three years ago and we just keep driving more traffic to it." And I was like, "Huh." There's the aha, right? You guys saw Brandon and Kaelin on stage getting the Two Comma Club C Award with one funnel. So simplicity, simplify things. Don't make them more complex. Okay? So many guys don't want complex things. I'm the same way, because I love creativity of the creating. Focus your creativity on new creative to get people into the one funnel you're focusing on. That's the shift in mindset. Okay? So, number one, simplify. Look at lead magnet, email daily core offers. Here's Ben's: people opt in, he sells them his newsletter, and he sends an email every single day about the newsletter. Okay? This is kind of something we've been talking a lot over last couple years about, publishing daily. I think some people stress out about it. Like, "I don't know how to do it, I'm not going to be able to do it." I want to simplify it again. Okay? Look how Ben Settle does it. Okay? He sends out an email every single day. Here's a snapshot of just since February 23rd, like literally, every single day. So he sends an email every day, and then he takes that same email, and he goes to his blog and he posts it, copy and paste it to the blog. Now he's posting a blog post every single day. Email a day, blog post a day, it's the same thing word for word, copy and pasted, but he's publishing every day. So if you know like, okay, if I'm publishing every day, I've got to send an email to my list every day. I know that. I'm going to log in, send an email to my list, and I'm going to copy the email, and I'm going to post to my blog and boom, now I'm done. Okay? I think so many times we get so scared about, "The publishing everyday thing, how am I going to do it?" It can and it should be more and more simple. Okay? All right. So the first challenge I have for you guys, I got five challenges today. Challenge number one, I want you to look at the funnels you are creating, the funnels you're working on, the business model you have, and think, "How can I simplify this? How can I make it where I can do the entire business in one hour in quarantine, then go play with my kids the rest of the day?" Right? How can I simplify my business? That's the first challenge for you guys. Okay? Challenge accepted? Can you guys all do that? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0000 2CCX Challenge 1: Simplify Your Business... full 386 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to this special episode series! Recently I recorded a training video for my 2CCX students and I made them commit to taking on 5 different challenges that would help them strengthen and grow their businesses. On this first episode we discuss... Welcome to this special episode series! Recently I recorded a training video for my 2CCX students and I made them commit to taking on 5 different challenges that would help them strengthen and grow their businesses. On this first episode we discuss challenge #1, Simplify your business. So tune in and see how these challenges can help you and your business get to where you want to be. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, I want to share with you guys something really cool. So recently I did a training for people who were inside of my Two Comma Club X, high-end coaching program. And the training chat really cool, and I thought it'd be fun to share it with you guys. So I'm actually going to break it up over the next five episodes. There are five challenges that I gave them to do to be more successful inside their business. So, that's kind of the game plan. So each episode we'll cover one of the five challenges, and this very first challenge is called Simplify Your Business. So we're going to cue up the theme song, we come back, you guys will have a chance to hear and behind the scenes of a private training I was doing with my Two Comma Club X, high-end coaching students, and I hope you love it. Whenever I would go to bed, I always like trying to do a lot ahead of time, this is my business model, I know what it is, it's like I'm driving traffic to a landing page, and then from here I'm upselling people on the phone, or I'm doing a webinar, or I can have a structure, like what you're doing, right? And it's all the speakers are coming in that are giving you ideas. The goal is not to be like, "Nevermind, I'm believing that," rip it up and start something new. And the next speaker, you throw it away and something new. Instead, it's like listen to every single speaker and listening to their model and be like, "That's really cool, I love how they're doing that." And then be like, "That piece right there, that one thing that person said, that's something I can take and I can apply to my existing framework, the existing business I'm trying to do." Okay? Because if you're not careful, you're going to hear all, again, we have so many amazing speakers, all of them had their own take on how to do business. If you're not careful, you're going to rip up and rewrite your business plan 20 times in the next two days, which is not going to help you. It's not going to get you to momentum, it's going to get you out of momentum. Right? So the goal of this is to keep the frame or keep the business that you're working on, but then looking for what's the piece of gold from each presentation. Right? I'm going to be sharing these five different things. And each of these things, some of you guys might thing, "That one's not for me. That one's not for me," and, "That's the piece of gold I needed, I can add here, and I can apply to the framework that I've already built. It's going to help me to speed up and help me get to that next spot faster." Okay? And so that's the way I want you guys to start looking at this week, not, "I'm rewriting my business plan 20 times over," it's, "I have 20 amazing people coming, what's the one piece of gold I can take from each speaker that I can apply to the existing thing that I'm already working on to help amplify it and help get me back into momentum?" Does that make sense? So that's kind of the goal. So with that said, I'm going to jump into five different things I kind of wanted to go through with you guys, and I think they're fun. I'm excited for it. So, all right. So the first thing, so again, I got a bunch of just things. So my first thing I want to put out there for everybody is the thought process of how can I simplify my business? How can I simplify my funnels? Last year, we did an affiliate retreat, some of our top affiliates came, and they came to Boise, and then Dave and Miles and everyone, took them out to McCall where they did water skiing and everything. Before they went out to have the big party, because I wasn't invited to the party. I'm just kidding, I was probably invited, I just wasn't able to go. But before they all went, I sat down for like an hour with everybody and kind of asked everyone about their businesses, and everyone asked me some feedback on this stuff. And I remember one of the people who was there, her name is Alex, she asked me the biggest advice. I kind of asked some questions on her business. And really quick, I found out that basically she had like, I don't know, half dozen or more funnels that she had, she was driving traffic to, she was trying to do all these different things. And I said, "Ma'am, my biggest piece of advice for you right now is to simplify everything." I said, "Pick the one funnel that you like the most and delete the rest." This should not be something where we're driving traffic to six or eight or 10 different offers. If you are, it gets very, very difficult. It's hard to focus all your efforts. I think a lot of people see my business and they're like, "Russell, you got eight offers." I'm like, "Yeah, I have 400 employees." You know what I mean? We're doing 10, $15 million a month. Don't necessarily model me because we've got more staff recently. When you get the point where you're trying to go for the billion dollar company, then look at me. But right now, what most guys are trying to zero to a million, million to ten, and ten to a hundred. So in those windows, the thing that's going to drive you is simplicity, one funnel. And what's crazy is as I'm doing this book launch, Alex, she interviewed me on her thing, and she said, "Man, the biggest thing that grew my business the last year is when you were in Boise, and you said I need to kill all my funnels but one. She's like, "I left all stressed out because I love all these funnels. I put so much time and energy, but I thought, everyone says, 'Do what Russell says,' so I'm going to do what Russell says." And she's like, "I killed all these babies and I kept one." And she's like, "Because of that, all my focus is on my ad dollars, my promotions, my content, everything's focused on one thing, and because of that, it's grown." And so I want to challenge you guys today. Again, this comes back to this whole over the next 20 speakers, don't try and reinvent 20 different business models. It's simplifying the one you have and figuring out the nuggets of gold you can apply to it. Okay? So I'm going to show you guys if I was to start over right now, like the most simple model on earth, and this is all I would do, if it was me and I'm trying to make a million to $10 million a year company, I would do this. Okay? And I'm going to show you, it's Ben Settle slide, because Ben is the most consistent, simple business model I've ever seen, and it's exactly what I would do. So Ben has got one product. Since the last couple years, he's developed a couple of other ones, but the reality, all those other products are... so he publishes a monthly newsletter. It's 97 bucks a month. You get a physical print newsletter in the mail every single month. And that's kind of what his business model is. And if you see, he sells other things, all he's done is over the last 10 years, he's been publishing this newsletter. He'll be like, "What are all the newsletters on this topic?" And he'll take like 30 issues, and he puts them with the others, like, "Here's my new product." And it's literally just his issues that are grouped together based on topics. So he only has one thing he does. Every month, he writes the newsletter and he sells it. It's 97 bucks a month. And that's it. Right? And then he's got a squeeze page, and a squeeze page is basically, "Come here, give me your email address, and then I'm going to sell you my newsletter." Right? So people come here, they go to bensettle.com, they put their email address in, and then he has his one product he sells. Basically, what he does is he sends out an email every single day, selling his one product. That's it. That's his business for the 10 years I've known him. I'm on his email list. I get an email every day, sometimes twice a day. And all he does is he promotes one thing and that's his newsletter. That's it. That's the business model, simple, easy, million dollar a year business right there, one product. And he sends an email a day. So you come in and here it is. I was just pulling this today, I took a screenshot just to show you guys. March 11th, there's email. March 11th, there are two emails. March 10th, there were three emails. March 9th, there were two emails. March 8th, my birthday, there were two emails. March 7th, there was email. And just consistently, consistently, right? So his whole business model is get people to come to my squeeze page, they give me their email address, I email them every single day to tell them to buy my one product. And you'll go, "Russell, what if they already bought the product, then what do I email them?" The same thing! Okay? Because guess what it does? It gets people to stick. It's funny, the biggest growth I had in my business was five or six years ago, we decided we were going to focus 100% of our efforts on click funnels. And prior to that, most of you guys probably didn't come into my universe prior to that, but if you would have looked at it before, we had so many different offers, they were all over the place, like something selling this, and this, and this. And so I'm emailing my list, I'm like, "I don't know, I'll promote this today, and then this," and they're all sorts of random things, right? And when we said, "Okay, we're going to sell click funnels," everything's focused on this one thing, one product, one service, then everything grew for us. Right? And even now, if you look at my business, we have front end funnels, like the books and things like that, but the only goal is if you want to buy the book is that you get into click funnels. Everything leads to this one road. And so the business model could be as simple as a squeeze page, get somebody email, to opt in, and then a print newsletter, or a webinar, or a membership, just one thing, right? Or my high-end coaching, whatever the one thing is, and then every day email about it. And even if they bought it, you still email them every single day because it increases their likelihood of sticking. Right? They're seeing another promotion. It's like, "I did buy it. I remember buying that, that was a good thing I bought it. It's a good reminder." It's a stick strategy. Probably three or four times a year, someone on my marketing team will come back and be like, "Russell, we need to use all the Actionetics complex features where people who have already bought this, it pulls down, they don't see any more messages about this and that." And like, "No, stop trying to be so technical and geeky. I don't care some about the book and they get 15 other emails about the book, because guess what? Now they're more likely to actually read the book because I keep selling them." I'm like, "Selling them on buying, it's one thing, but selling them on actually consuming it is another thing. So I'm going to keep telling you about it, and telling you about it, and telling you about it. I don't care if they bought it five times, I want them to keep getting it. If they got it and they've read it, I want them to keep reminding like, 'Yeah, that book was good, I need to go back and read it again, let me reference that thing.'" Right? So don't think that even though Actionetics and every email autoresponder has all these complex features where you can after someone's done this, pull them out so they never see the emails again, that's not necessarily good. Right? Simplify, keep things simple. During Funnel Hacking Live, after Garrett White had his presentation, we had this really cool moment backstage. I would love to, in fact, we did record, I just did the recording of it, but he told me, he's like, "A year ago," he's like, "My technical marketing team just convinced us to move off of Actionetics so we can move to, I can't remember what the other one was, something else, because that we could do all these more complex things and more split testing. And if they bought this, then like," he had this huge map. And he's like, "A year ago, they convinced me to do that." And it was funny because I had tried to convince Todd to let us use a more complex email software too, because I was like, "we can get so much more complex and so much better if we did this." And Todd laughed and he's like, " Dude, Russell, you haven't even finished the follow up sequence, like one, like you're trying to get more complex and you only have a simple, basic one right now." And we told Garrett that year. It's like, "You know what's funny?" He's like, "In the last year, working on this super hyper amazing sequence, it's going to do a million things." He's like, "Because of that, we've never sent an email out to our list during that time, because we bought the complexity, now it was so complex we never actually used it." And he was like, "I'm going home. We're canceling everything, we're moving back, we're just getting back to the simple, send an email every single day." I don't know, there's so many tools that create complexity, and I think that's what's keeping most of us from where we want to be. So strip complexity. And I don't care if you use the Actionetics, or active campaign, or anyway, it doesn't matter, but just simple. Like Ben's model is simple. He doesn't stress out. Every day he spends 15 minutes writing an email, sends it out, sells his one product and that's it. And once a month he writes print newsletter. That's the business. And the guy's written like eight zombie novels since I've known him because he's got nothing else to do all day, other than write a 20 minute email, send an email, do the once a month newsletter he publishes, and then he writes zombie novels all day. That's it. So, simplify. How can we simplify our businesses and quit overcome complexing them. We can do that. Our company now, "Let's pull things back, let's simplify it, simplify." And I think some of you guys may have heard me told this story, I went, this is probably, I don't know, maybe a year ago, I went to John, and obviously I'm obsessed with funnels, right? I'm like, "John, okay, in a perfect world, how many funnels do you want from the funnel team that we can give you, the traffic team, to go to market and drive traffic to?" And I was hoping it was like one a week or two a week, whatever. And he's like, "Two." I'm like, "Okay, what is that two a week, two a month, two a day? You let me know, we will do it." And he's like, "No, two total. That's all we need. I don't need more funnels." He was like, "In fact, if you stop making funnels, we would be completely fine." He was like, "Well, we're good now. We just need you guys focusing more on getting traffic into the funnels we have." That's what he told me. And I was like, "Oh." I remember Brandon and Kaelin Poulin came to our office in Boise. And I was showing them everything like, "This is our funnel building team." And there's like four or five people. And he's like, "What do they do all day?" I'm like, "They build funnels." He's like, "You guys still build funnels?" Like, "Yeah, dude, that's what we do." And he's like, "Huh." He's like, "We built a funnel three years ago and we just keep driving more traffic to it." And I was like, "Huh." There's the aha, right? You guys saw Brandon and Kaelin on stage getting the Two Comma Club C Award with one funnel. So simplicity, simplify things. Don't make them more complex. Okay? So many guys don't want complex things. I'm the same way, because I love creativity of the creating. Focus your creativity on new creative to get people into the one funnel you're focusing on. That's the shift in mindset. Okay? So, number one, simplify. Look at lead magnet, email daily core offers. Here's Ben's: people opt in, he sells them his newsletter, and he sends an email every single day about the newsletter. Okay? This is kind of something we've been talking a lot over last couple years about, publishing daily. I think some people stress out about it. Like, "I don't know how to do it, I'm not going to be able to do it." I want to simplify it again. Okay? Look how Ben Settle does it. Okay? He sends out an email every single day. Here's a snapshot of just since February 23rd, like literally, every single day. So he sends an email every day, and then he takes that same email, and he goes to his blog and he posts it, copy and paste it to the blog. Now he's posting a blog post every single day. Email a day, blog post a day, it's the same thing word for word, copy and pasted, but he's publishing every day. So if you know like, okay, if I'm publishing every day, I've got to send an email to my list every day. I know that. I'm going to log in, send an email to my list, and I'm going to copy the email, and I'm going to post to my blog and boom, now I'm done. Okay? I think so many times we get so scared about, "The publishing everyday thing, how am I going to do it?" It can and it should be more and more simple. Okay? All right. So the first challenge I have for you guys, I got five challenges today. Challenge number one, I want you to look at the funnels you are creating, the funnels you're working on, the business model you have, and think, "How can I simplify this? How can I make it where I can do the entire business in one hour in quarantine, then go play with my kids the rest of the day?" Right? How can I simplify my business? 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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, I want to share with you guys something really cool. So recently I did a training for people who were inside of my Two Comma Club X, high-end coaching program. And the training chat really cool, and I thought it'd be fun to share it with you guys.

So I'm actually going to break it up over the next five episodes. There are five challenges that I gave them to do to be more successful inside their business. So, that's kind of the game plan. So each episode we'll cover one of the five challenges, and this very first challenge is called Simplify Your Business. So we're going to cue up the theme song, we come back, you guys will have a chance to hear and behind the scenes of a private training I was doing with my Two Comma Club X, high-end coaching students, and I hope you love it.

Whenever I would go to bed, I always like trying to do a lot ahead of time, this is my business model, I know what it is, it's like I'm driving traffic to a landing page, and then from here I'm upselling people on the phone, or I'm doing a webinar, or I can have a structure, like what you're doing, right?

And it's all the speakers are coming in that are giving you ideas. The goal is not to be like, "Nevermind, I'm believing that," rip it up and start something new. And the next speaker, you throw it away and something new. Instead, it's like listen to every single speaker and listening to their model and be like, "That's really cool, I love how they're doing that." And then be like, "That piece right there, that one thing that person said, that's something I can take and I can apply to my existing framework, the existing business I'm trying to do." Okay?

Because if you're not careful, you're going to hear all, again, we have so many amazing speakers, all of them had their own take on how to do business. If you're not careful, you're going to rip up and rewrite your business plan 20 times in the next two days, which is not going to help you. It's not going to get you to momentum, it's going to get you out of momentum. Right?

So the goal of this is to keep the frame or keep the business that you're working on, but then looking for what's the piece of gold from each presentation. Right? I'm going to be sharing these five different things. And each of these things, some of you guys might thing, "That one's not for me. That one's not for me," and, "That's the piece of gold I needed, I can add here, and I can apply to the framework that I've already built. It's going to help me to speed up and help me get to that next spot faster." Okay?

And so that's the way I want you guys to start looking at this week, not, "I'm rewriting my business plan 20 times over," it's, "I have 20 amazing people coming, what's the one piece of gold I can take from each speaker that I can apply to the existing thing that I'm already working on to help amplify it and help get me back into momentum?" Does that make sense? So that's kind of the goal.

So with that said, I'm going to jump into five different things I kind of wanted to go through with you guys, and I think they're fun. I'm excited for it. So, all right.

So the first thing, so again, I got a bunch of just things. So my first thing I want to put out there for everybody is the thought process of how can I simplify my business? How can I simplify my funnels? Last year, we did an affiliate retreat, some of our top affiliates came, and they came to Boise, and then Dave and Miles and everyone, took them out to McCall where they did water skiing and everything. Before they went out to have the big party, because I wasn't invited to the party. I'm just kidding, I was probably invited, I just wasn't able to go.

But before they all went, I sat down for like an hour with everybody and kind of asked everyone about their businesses, and everyone asked me some feedback on this stuff. And I remember one of the people who was there, her name is Alex, she asked me the biggest advice. I kind of asked some questions on her business. And really quick, I found out that basically she had like, I don't know, half dozen or more funnels that she had, she was driving traffic to, she was trying to do all these different things. And I said, "Ma'am, my biggest piece of advice for you right now is to simplify everything." I said, "Pick the one funnel that you like the most and delete the rest."

This should not be something where we're driving traffic to six or eight or 10 different offers. If you are, it gets very, very difficult. It's hard to focus all your efforts. I think a lot of people see my business and they're like, "Russell, you got eight offers." I'm like, "Yeah, I have 400 employees." You know what I mean? We're doing 10, $15 million a month. Don't necessarily model me because we've got more staff recently. When you get the point where you're trying to go for the billion dollar company, then look at me. But right now, what most guys are trying to zero to a million, million to ten, and ten to a hundred. So in those windows, the thing that's going to drive you is simplicity, one funnel.

And what's crazy is as I'm doing this book launch, Alex, she interviewed me on her thing, and she said, "Man, the biggest thing that grew my business the last year is when you were in Boise, and you said I need to kill all my funnels but one. She's like, "I left all stressed out because I love all these funnels. I put so much time and energy, but I thought, everyone says, 'Do what Russell says,' so I'm going to do what Russell says." And she's like, "I killed all these babies and I kept one." And she's like, "Because of that, all my focus is on my ad dollars, my promotions, my content, everything's focused on one thing, and because of that, it's grown."

And so I want to challenge you guys today. Again, this comes back to this whole over the next 20 speakers, don't try and reinvent 20 different business models. It's simplifying the one you have and figuring out the nuggets of gold you can apply to it. Okay?

So I'm going to show you guys if I was to start over right now, like the most simple model on earth, and this is all I would do, if it was me and I'm trying to make a million to $10 million a year company, I would do this. Okay? And I'm going to show you, it's Ben Settle slide, because Ben is the most consistent, simple business model I've ever seen, and it's exactly what I would do.

So Ben has got one product. Since the last couple years, he's developed a couple of other ones, but the reality, all those other products are... so he publishes a monthly newsletter. It's 97 bucks a month. You get a physical print newsletter in the mail every single month. And that's kind of what his business model is. And if you see, he sells other things, all he's done is over the last 10 years, he's been publishing this newsletter. He'll be like, "What are all the newsletters on this topic?" And he'll take like 30 issues, and he puts them with the others, like, "Here's my new product." And it's literally just his issues that are grouped together based on topics.

So he only has one thing he does. Every month, he writes the newsletter and he sells it. It's 97 bucks a month. And that's it. Right? And then he's got a squeeze page, and a squeeze page is basically, "Come here, give me your email address, and then I'm going to sell you my newsletter." Right? So people come here, they go to bensettle.com, they put their email address in, and then he has his one product he sells.

Basically, what he does is he sends out an email every single day, selling his one product. That's it. That's his business for the 10 years I've known him. I'm on his email list. I get an email every day, sometimes twice a day. And all he does is he promotes one thing and that's his newsletter. That's it. That's the business model, simple, easy, million dollar a year business right there, one product. And he sends an email a day.

So you come in and here it is. I was just pulling this today, I took a screenshot just to show you guys. March 11th, there's email. March 11th, there are two emails. March 10th, there were three emails. March 9th, there were two emails. March 8th, my birthday, there were two emails. March 7th, there was email. And just consistently, consistently, right?

So his whole business model is get people to come to my squeeze page, they give me their email address, I email them every single day to tell them to buy my one product. And you'll go, "Russell, what if they already bought the product, then what do I email them?" The same thing! Okay? Because guess what it does? It gets people to stick.

It's funny, the biggest growth I had in my business was five or six years ago, we decided we were going to focus 100% of our efforts on click funnels. And prior to that, most of you guys probably didn't come into my universe prior to that, but if you would have looked at it before, we had so many different offers, they were all over the place, like something selling this, and this, and this. And so I'm emailing my list, I'm like, "I don't know, I'll promote this today, and then this," and they're all sorts of random things, right? And when we said, "Okay, we're going to sell click funnels," everything's focused on this one thing, one product, one service, then everything grew for us. Right?

And even now, if you look at my business, we have front end funnels, like the books and things like that, but the only goal is if you want to buy the book is that you get into click funnels. Everything leads to this one road.

And so the business model could be as simple as a squeeze page, get somebody email, to opt in, and then a print newsletter, or a webinar, or a membership, just one thing, right? Or my high-end coaching, whatever the one thing is, and then every day email about it. And even if they bought it, you still email them every single day because it increases their likelihood of sticking. Right? They're seeing another promotion. It's like, "I did buy it. I remember buying that, that was a good thing I bought it. It's a good reminder." It's a stick strategy.

Probably three or four times a year, someone on my marketing team will come back and be like, "Russell, we need to use all the Actionetics complex features where people who have already bought this, it pulls down, they don't see any more messages about this and that." And like, "No, stop trying to be so technical and geeky. I don't care some about the book and they get 15 other emails about the book, because guess what? Now they're more likely to actually read the book because I keep selling them." I'm like, "Selling them on buying, it's one thing, but selling them on actually consuming it is another thing. So I'm going to keep telling you about it, and telling you about it, and telling you about it. I don't care if they bought it five times, I want them to keep getting it. If they got it and they've read it, I want them to keep reminding like, 'Yeah, that book was good, I need to go back and read it again, let me reference that thing.'" Right?

So don't think that even though Actionetics and every email autoresponder has all these complex features where you can after someone's done this, pull them out so they never see the emails again, that's not necessarily good. Right? Simplify, keep things simple.

During Funnel Hacking Live, after Garrett White had his presentation, we had this really cool moment backstage. I would love to, in fact, we did record, I just did the recording of it, but he told me, he's like, "A year ago," he's like, "My technical marketing team just convinced us to move off of Actionetics so we can move to, I can't remember what the other one was, something else, because that we could do all these more complex things and more split testing. And if they bought this, then like," he had this huge map. And he's like, "A year ago, they convinced me to do that."

And it was funny because I had tried to convince Todd to let us use a more complex email software too, because I was like, "we can get so much more complex and so much better if we did this." And Todd laughed and he's like, " Dude, Russell, you haven't even finished the follow up sequence, like one, like you're trying to get more complex and you only have a simple, basic one right now."

And we told Garrett that year. It's like, "You know what's funny?" He's like, "In the last year, working on this super hyper amazing sequence, it's going to do a million things." He's like, "Because of that, we've never sent an email out to our list during that time, because we bought the complexity, now it was so complex we never actually used it." And he was like, "I'm going home. We're canceling everything, we're moving back, we're just getting back to the simple, send an email every single day."

I don't know, there's so many tools that create complexity, and I think that's what's keeping most of us from where we want to be. So strip complexity. And I don't care if you use the Actionetics, or active campaign, or anyway, it doesn't matter, but just simple. Like Ben's model is simple. He doesn't stress out. Every day he spends 15 minutes writing an email, sends it out, sells his one product and that's it. And once a month he writes print newsletter. That's the business.

And the guy's written like eight zombie novels since I've known him because he's got nothing else to do all day, other than write a 20 minute email, send an email, do the once a month newsletter he publishes, and then he writes zombie novels all day. That's it. So, simplify.

How can we simplify our businesses and quit overcome complexing them. We can do that. Our company now, "Let's pull things back, let's simplify it, simplify." And I think some of you guys may have heard me told this story, I went, this is probably, I don't know, maybe a year ago, I went to John, and obviously I'm obsessed with funnels, right? I'm like, "John, okay, in a perfect world, how many funnels do you want from the funnel team that we can give you, the traffic team, to go to market and drive traffic to?" And I was hoping it was like one a week or two a week, whatever.

And he's like, "Two." I'm like, "Okay, what is that two a week, two a month, two a day? You let me know, we will do it." And he's like, "No, two total. That's all we need. I don't need more funnels." He was like, "In fact, if you stop making funnels, we would be completely fine." He was like, "Well, we're good now. We just need you guys focusing more on getting traffic into the funnels we have." That's what he told me. And I was like, "Oh."

I remember Brandon and Kaelin Poulin came to our office in Boise. And I was showing them everything like, "This is our funnel building team." And there's like four or five people. And he's like, "What do they do all day?" I'm like, "They build funnels." He's like, "You guys still build funnels?" Like, "Yeah, dude, that's what we do." And he's like, "Huh." He's like, "We built a funnel three years ago and we just keep driving more traffic to it." And I was like, "Huh."

There's the aha, right? You guys saw Brandon and Kaelin on stage getting the Two Comma Club C Award with one funnel. So simplicity, simplify things. Don't make them more complex. Okay? So many guys don't want complex things. I'm the same way, because I love creativity of the creating. Focus your creativity on new creative to get people into the one funnel you're focusing on. That's the shift in mindset. Okay?

So, number one, simplify. Look at lead magnet, email daily core offers. Here's Ben's: people opt in, he sells them his newsletter, and he sends an email every single day about the newsletter. Okay? This is kind of something we've been talking a lot over last couple years about, publishing daily. I think some people stress out about it. Like, "I don't know how to do it, I'm not going to be able to do it."

I want to simplify it again. Okay? Look how Ben Settle does it. Okay? He sends out an email every single day. Here's a snapshot of just since February 23rd, like literally, every single day. So he sends an email every day, and then he takes that same email, and he goes to his blog and he posts it, copy and paste it to the blog. Now he's posting a blog post every single day. Email a day, blog post a day, it's the same thing word for word, copy and pasted, but he's publishing every day.

So if you know like, okay, if I'm publishing every day, I've got to send an email to my list every day. I know that. I'm going to log in, send an email to my list, and I'm going to copy the email, and I'm going to post to my blog and boom, now I'm done. Okay?

I think so many times we get so scared about, "The publishing everyday thing, how am I going to do it?" It can and it should be more and more simple. Okay? All right.

So the first challenge I have for you guys, I got five challenges today. Challenge number one, I want you to look at the funnels you are creating, the funnels you're working on, the business model you have, and think, "How can I simplify this? How can I make it where I can do the entire business in one hour in quarantine, then go play with my kids the rest of the day?" Right? How can I simplify my business? That's the first challenge for you guys. Okay? Challenge accepted? Can you guys all do that?

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]]> 944 no The Storm Is Almost Here... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-storm-is-almost-here In Traffic Secrets I warned you the storm is coming, now I’m here to tell you it’s almost here. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about the intro of the traffic secrets book. I told you and I warned you that there's a storm coming. I want to talk about what's happening and how to prepare. Hey, everybody. Hope you guys are doing awesome. All right. So I know this is like the last 12 months of our life, but especially the last month, there's just so much chaos, so much craziness happening. We've had social networks shutting people down. We've had investment things like Robinhood and the GameStop. There's just so much chaos coming around and I don't even know how to address all the things. I'm going to try to address all the things. All I'm going to tell you guys is when I was writing the traffic secrets book two years ago, in the intro, if you remember the intro book says, "There's a storm coming..." And, I talked about how, just so you guys all are aware, there's a storm coming. We got to start preparing ourselves for that today. And I just know that it's getting crazier and scary. Anyway, I'm very excited because last night when I was getting ready for bed, I opened up Facebook real quick and I'm scrolling around, and one of my buddies, Justin Brooke, he made a post, and I wanted to actually read that to you because it is exactly what's been on my mind for the last week or two. And so I wanted to kind of share it with you. So this is what he wrote. And if you don't know Justin, Justin's an amazing marketer. I actually met him, almost 15 years ago. He came and did an unpaid internship for me. I was at the time trying to figure out how to get free employees. I emailed my list, "Hey, who wants to come work for me for free for a month?" And he applied and he said, yes. And he flew out and worked for me for 30 days and got to know him really well and been a friend and a fan of his since then, any who? So this is what he wrote. He said, "I ain't smart enough to know what's going on, but I ain't dumb enough to not see something's going on. You know what I mean?" He said "I ain't panicking, but I am preparing, turning as many dollars as I can into assets rather than dollars. For me, that means farming equipment, SEO, email subscribers, and social following. Layers of redundancy. If they cut off my ads, I'll still have SEO. If they cut off my social, I'll still have my email. If they cut off my SEO and my email, I'll have my little farm to at least keep me indoors and fed. If it gets any worse than that, I'm pretty sure there's not much else I could do anyway. I pray that the worst it gets is they just leave us to ourselves in the woods. I'd be okay with that. Think I'm nuts. We've gone from haters, wash your hands to, Hey, if you don't vaccine, you'll get fired and no tests, you can't travel. And that's real, no hype, no theory. Just explaining the God's honest truth of exactly what happened and happening. Something's going on. It's just like, if you think it's going to rain later on, you bring an umbrella, same thing here. No need didn't change a way of living. No need to go buy up all the toilet paper in town. No need to spiral on the fear. Just have a plan B and C. Work kinda slowly in your free time. So you got fallbacks on fallbacks. You do it in your business. Why not in your life? It's just good, old fashioned sustainable thinking." So I read that and I was like, yes, that is so true. And I've been doing the same thing. If you've noticed in our business, I've been trying to diversify our traffic even more than it already was. Right. I have been getting people to join my texting app, the community app, right. And growing people there, moving over there. We have been focusing super hard in SEO recently and trying to get our SEO rankings up and focusing hard on building our email list. Building our text messages, building our desktop push list. Just different things to prepare for traffic, different things to prepare for if our audience gets shut down, right? If our emails got shut down, what would we do? How would we survive? How would we pay for the bills? If our merchant accounts got shut down, what would we do? These are all the things that we don't ever think about when times are good. I want to rewind back a decade ago. That's crazy. 10 years ago when I was building my company the first time, somebody had heard the story and I was trying to prepare. And I had a lot of employees and a lot of things were selling and all this sorts of stuff. And I thought we were doing well. In fact, the first year and a half, two years of the recession we were doing great. And then something happened and it was crazy. It was like at my one choke point, and one thing we had was only one merchant account and that merchant account got shut down. And at the time it took my entire company, almost a hundred employees, everything we're doing to a screeching halt, because one is the scariest number. And so in your business, you've got to start being prepared. If you got one merchant account, how do you get two? If you've got two, how do you get three? If you got one traffic source, how do you get two? If you got two, how do you get three? Right? If you got one way to contact your following, look for a second or third, right? If everyone's on Instagram, how do you get them on to Facebook. If everyone's on Facebook, how do you get them to YouTube? If everyone's on YouTube, how to get them on email. If everyone's on email, how do you get them to text? Like how do you have some diversity so that when the storm hits and hopefully won't hit any of us, hopefully it doesn't hit me or you or anybody. But if it does how are you prepared for that? Because we've seen the last 30 days at a blink of an eye, your social media can be gone. Your Facebook can be gone. Your Instagram, your email, everything could disappear. And so it's just being prepared for the worst case scenario. And what's interesting is I've been reading this book and it's one of my favorite books now all time. It's called Outwitting the Devil, it was written by Napoleon Hill. And what's crazy about it, it was actually written in the 1930s and Napolean was too scared to publish it. So he didn't and when he passed away, his wife had the manuscript and she didn't dare to publish it. So she didn't, and after she passed away, then the family got it and found it and decided to publish it. And the book is called Outwitting the Devil. By far of all the Napoleon Hill books, it's the best. It's amazing. It's this whole conversation he's having with Satan and Satan literally laying out, here's the playbook. Here's how I win. Here's the secret. This is what I do. And this is how you get people to come drifters. And explains the whole thing. And it's crazy from like a spiritual standpoint. It's like, Oh, there's the playbook that Satan's literally using to try to take us over. From a personal standpoint, It's like, Oh, here's the playbook that Satan's using to try to get me to not produce and succeed in life. And either way, it's one of my favorite books. In fact, I want to write a book about the book. That's how good it is. But regardless, the reason that I'm bringing that up, in the book initially talks about there's two things, there's fear and there's faith, right? And everything Satan's trying to do, the devil is trying to do, is trying to get you into a state of fear and everything that Christ is trying to do. Or, the God's trying to do is get you into a state of faith. And it's just like, man, I don't want to say anything to try to get people fearful but to get you to prepare and have faith in something greater that's coming and being prepared for that. So anyway, I hope that this just comes as kind of a warning for everybody whose got a business now and who hasn't thought about that. When I had a hundred employees and we were killing it and all these things were happening. I thought we were untouchable until we weren't. And all it was, was one merchant account decided they didn't like us. And what's crazy is I actually had 14 merchant accounts, but they're all the same bank and that one bank said they didn't like us and they were gone in a minute. And so it's just like having diversity, having backups, having all those kinds of things. Do you back up your email database? How often? Do you have it somewhere besides your auto-responder company? What if they decide they don't like anymore? Do you have your- just all those things, it's just, be smart, be prepared. Anyway, that's my podcast for today. Thank you Justin Brooke for the post and for getting my head spinning on that. And for all you guys listening, there's a storm coming, but don't be afraid, just have faith and prepare yourself and set up some backup plans so you're ready. And if you do that, then you're not going to be going to be scared when the storm gets here. And if you haven't read Outwitting the Devil yet, seriously, it is such a good book. You can get it on audible. You can get the book version. It's worth reading. So, all right, guys, appreciate you all. Thanks for everything. And we'll talk to you all soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0000 The Storm Is Almost Here... full 385 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In Traffic Secrets I warned you the storm is coming, now I’m here to tell you it’s almost here. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson.... In Traffic Secrets I warned you the storm is coming, now I’m here to tell you it’s almost here. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about the intro of the traffic secrets book. I told you and I warned you that there's a storm coming. I want to talk about what's happening and how to prepare. Hey, everybody. Hope you guys are doing awesome. All right. So I know this is like the last 12 months of our life, but especially the last month, there's just so much chaos, so much craziness happening. We've had social networks shutting people down. We've had investment things like Robinhood and the GameStop. There's just so much chaos coming around and I don't even know how to address all the things. I'm going to try to address all the things. All I'm going to tell you guys is when I was writing the traffic secrets book two years ago, in the intro, if you remember the intro book says, "There's a storm coming..." And, I talked about how, just so you guys all are aware, there's a storm coming. We got to start preparing ourselves for that today. And I just know that it's getting crazier and scary. Anyway, I'm very excited because last night when I was getting ready for bed, I opened up Facebook real quick and I'm scrolling around, and one of my buddies, Justin Brooke, he made a post, and I wanted to actually read that to you because it is exactly what's been on my mind for the last week or two. And so I wanted to kind of share it with you. So this is what he wrote. And if you don't know Justin, Justin's an amazing marketer. I actually met him, almost 15 years ago. He came and did an unpaid internship for me. I was at the time trying to figure out how to get free employees. I emailed my list, "Hey, who wants to come work for me for free for a month?" And he applied and he said, yes. And he flew out and worked for me for 30 days and got to know him really well and been a friend and a fan of his since then, any who? So this is what he wrote. He said, "I ain't smart enough to know what's going on, but I ain't dumb enough to not see something's going on. You know what I mean?" He said "I ain't panicking, but I am preparing, turning as many dollars as I can into assets rather than dollars. For me, that means farming equipment, SEO, email subscribers, and social following. Layers of redundancy. If they cut off my ads, I'll still have SEO. If they cut off my social, I'll still have my email. If they cut off my SEO and my email, I'll have my little farm to at least keep me indoors and fed. If it gets any worse than that, I'm pretty sure there's not much else I could do anyway. I pray that the worst it gets is they just leave us to ourselves in the woods. I'd be okay with that. Think I'm nuts. We've gone from haters, wash your hands to, Hey, if you don't vaccine, you'll get fired and no tests, you can't travel. And that's real, no hype, no theory. Just explaining the God's honest truth of exactly what happened and happening. Something's going on. It's just like, if you think it's going to rain later on, you bring an umbrella, same thing here. No need didn't change a way of living. No need to go buy up all the toilet paper in town. No need to spiral on the fear. Just have a plan B and C. Work kinda slowly in your free time. So you got fallbacks on fallbacks. You do it in your business. Why not in your life? It's just good, old fashioned sustainable thinking." So I read that and I was like, yes, that is so true. And I've been doing the same thing. If you've noticed in our business, I've been trying to diversify our traffic even more than it already was. Right. I have been getting people to join my texting app, the community app, right. And growing people there, moving over there. We have been focusing super hard in SEO recently and trying to get our SEO rankings up and focusing hard on building our email list. Building our text messages, building our desktop push list. Just different things to prepare for traffic, different things to prepare for if our audience gets shut down, right? If our emails got shut down, what would we do? How would we survive? How would we pay for the bills? If our merchant accounts got shut down, what would we do? These are all the things that we don't ever think about when times are good. I want to rewind back a decade ago. That's crazy. 10 years ago when I was building my company the first time, somebody had heard the story and I was trying to prepare. And I had a lot of employees and a lot of things were selling and all this sorts of stuff. And I thought we were doing well. In fact, the first year and a half, two years of the recession we were doing great. And then something happened and it was crazy. It was like at my one choke point, and one thing we had was only one merchant account and that merchant account got shut down. And at the time it took my entire company, almost a hundred employees, everything we're doing to a screeching halt, because one is the scariest number. And so in your business, you've got to start being prepared. If you got one merchant account, how do you get two? If you've got two, how do you get three? If you got one traffic source, how do you get two? If you got two, how do you get three? Right? If you got one way to contact your following, look for a second or third, right? If everyone's on Instagram, how do you get them on to Facebook. If everyone's on Facebook, how do you get them to YouTube? If everyone's on YouTube, how to get them on email. If everyone's on email, how do you get them to text? Like how do you have some diversity so that when the storm hits and hopefully won't hit any of us, hopefully it doesn't hit me or you or anybody. But if it does how are you prepared for that? Because we've seen the last 30 days at a blink of an eye, your social media can be gone. Your Facebook can be gone. Your Instagram, your email, everything could disappear. And so it's just being prepared for the worst case scenario. And what's interesting is I've been reading this book and it's one of my favorite books now all time. It's called Outwitting the Devil, it was written by Napoleon Hill. And what's crazy about it, it was actually written in the 1930s and Napolean was too scared to publish it. So he didn't and when he passed away, his wife had the manuscript and she didn't dare to publish it. So she didn't, and after she passed away, then the family got it and found it and decided to publish it. And the book is called Outwitting the Devil. By far of all the Napoleon Hill books, it's the best. It's amazing. It's this whole conversation he's having with Satan and Satan literally laying out, here's the playbook. Here's how I win. Here's the secret. This is what I do. And this is how you get people to come drifters. And explains the whole thing. And it's crazy from like a spiritual standpoint. It's like, Oh, there's the playbook that Satan's literally using to try to take us over. From a personal standpoint, It's like, Oh, here's the playbook that Satan's using to try to get me to not produce and succeed in life. And either way, it's one of my favorite books. In fact, I want to write a book about the book. That's how good it is. But regardless, the reason that I'm bringing that up, in the book initially talks about there's two things, there's fear and there's faith, right? And everything Satan's trying to do, the devil is trying to do, is trying to get you into a state of fear and everything that Christ is trying to do. Or, the God's trying to do is get you into a state of faith. And it's just like, man, I don't want to say anything to try to get people fearful but to get you to prepare and have faith in something greater that's coming and being prepared for that. So anyway, I hope that this just comes as kind of a warning for everybody whose got a business now and who hasn't thought about that. When I had a hundred employees and we were killing it and all these things were happening. I thought we were untouchable until we weren't. And all it was, was one merchant account decided they didn't like us. And what's crazy is I actually had 14 merchant accounts, but they're all the same bank and that one bank said they didn't like us and they were gone in a minute. And so it's just like having diversity, having backups, having all those kinds of things. Do you back up your email database? How often? Do you have it somewhere besides your auto-responder company? What if they decide they don't like anymore? Do you have your- just all those things, it's just, be smart, be prepared. Anyway, that's my podcast for today. Thank you Justin Brooke for the post and for getting my head spinning on that. And for all you guys listening, there's a storm coming, but don't be afraid, just have faith and prepare yourself and set up some backup plans so you're ready. And if you do that, then you're not going to be going to be scared when the storm gets here. And if you haven't read Outwitting the Devil yet, seriously, it is such a good book. You can get it on audible. You can get the book version. It's worth reading. So, all right, guys, appreciate you all. Thanks for everything. And we'll talk to you all soon. Learn more about your ad choices. 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---Transcript---

What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about the intro of the traffic secrets book. I told you and I warned you that there's a storm coming. I want to talk about what's happening and how to prepare.

Hey, everybody. Hope you guys are doing awesome. All right. So I know this is like the last 12 months of our life, but especially the last month, there's just so much chaos, so much craziness happening. We've had social networks shutting people down. We've had investment things like Robinhood and the GameStop. There's just so much chaos coming around and I don't even know how to address all the things. I'm going to try to address all the things.

All I'm going to tell you guys is when I was writing the traffic secrets book two years ago, in the intro, if you remember the intro book says, "There's a storm coming..." And, I talked about how, just so you guys all are aware, there's a storm coming. We got to start preparing ourselves for that today. And I just know that it's getting crazier and scary.

Anyway, I'm very excited because last night when I was getting ready for bed, I opened up Facebook real quick and I'm scrolling around, and one of my buddies, Justin Brooke, he made a post, and I wanted to actually read that to you because it is exactly what's been on my mind for the last week or two. And so I wanted to kind of share it with you. So this is what he wrote. And if you don't know Justin, Justin's an amazing marketer. I actually met him, almost 15 years ago. He came and did an unpaid internship for me.

I was at the time trying to figure out how to get free employees. I emailed my list, "Hey, who wants to come work for me for free for a month?" And he applied and he said, yes. And he flew out and worked for me for 30 days and got to know him really well and been a friend and a fan of his since then, any who? So this is what he wrote. He said, "I ain't smart enough to know what's going on, but I ain't dumb enough to not see something's going on. You know what I mean?"

He said "I ain't panicking, but I am preparing, turning as many dollars as I can into assets rather than dollars. For me, that means farming equipment, SEO, email subscribers, and social following. Layers of redundancy. If they cut off my ads, I'll still have SEO. If they cut off my social, I'll still have my email. If they cut off my SEO and my email, I'll have my little farm to at least keep me indoors and fed. If it gets any worse than that, I'm pretty sure there's not much else I could do anyway. I pray that the worst it gets is they just leave us to ourselves in the woods. I'd be okay with that. Think I'm nuts. We've gone from haters, wash your hands to, Hey, if you don't vaccine, you'll get fired and no tests, you can't travel. And that's real, no hype, no theory. Just explaining the God's honest truth of exactly what happened and happening. Something's going on. It's just like, if you think it's going to rain later on, you bring an umbrella, same thing here. No need didn't change a way of living. No need to go buy up all the toilet paper in town. No need to spiral on the fear. Just have a plan B and C. Work kinda slowly in your free time. So you got fallbacks on fallbacks. You do it in your business. Why not in your life? It's just good, old fashioned sustainable thinking."

So I read that and I was like, yes, that is so true. And I've been doing the same thing. If you've noticed in our business, I've been trying to diversify our traffic even more than it already was. Right. I have been getting people to join my texting app, the community app, right. And growing people there, moving over there. We have been focusing super hard in SEO recently and trying to get our SEO rankings up and focusing hard on building our email list. Building our text messages, building our desktop push list. Just different things to prepare for traffic, different things to prepare for if our audience gets shut down, right? If our emails got shut down, what would we do? How would we survive? How would we pay for the bills? If our merchant accounts got shut down, what would we do? These are all the things that we don't ever think about when times are good.

I want to rewind back a decade ago. That's crazy. 10 years ago when I was building my company the first time, somebody had heard the story and I was trying to prepare. And I had a lot of employees and a lot of things were selling and all this sorts of stuff. And I thought we were doing well. In fact, the first year and a half, two years of the recession we were doing great. And then something happened and it was crazy. It was like at my one choke point, and one thing we had was only one merchant account and that merchant account got shut down.

And at the time it took my entire company, almost a hundred employees, everything we're doing to a screeching halt, because one is the scariest number. And so in your business, you've got to start being prepared. If you got one merchant account, how do you get two? If you've got two, how do you get three? If you got one traffic source, how do you get two? If you got two, how do you get three? Right? If you got one way to contact your following, look for a second or third, right? If everyone's on Instagram, how do you get them on to Facebook. If everyone's on Facebook, how do you get them to YouTube? If everyone's on YouTube, how to get them on email. If everyone's on email, how do you get them to text? Like how do you have some diversity so that when the storm hits and hopefully won't hit any of us, hopefully it doesn't hit me or you or anybody.

But if it does how are you prepared for that? Because we've seen the last 30 days at a blink of an eye, your social media can be gone. Your Facebook can be gone. Your Instagram, your email, everything could disappear. And so it's just being prepared for the worst case scenario. And what's interesting is I've been reading this book and it's one of my favorite books now all time. It's called Outwitting the Devil, it was written by Napoleon Hill. And what's crazy about it, it was actually written in the 1930s and Napolean was too scared to publish it. So he didn't and when he passed away, his wife had the manuscript and she didn't dare to publish it. So she didn't, and after she passed away, then the family got it and found it and decided to publish it. And the book is called Outwitting the Devil. By far of all the Napoleon Hill books, it's the best.

It's amazing. It's this whole conversation he's having with Satan and Satan literally laying out, here's the playbook. Here's how I win. Here's the secret. This is what I do. And this is how you get people to come drifters. And explains the whole thing. And it's crazy from like a spiritual standpoint. It's like, Oh, there's the playbook that Satan's literally using to try to take us over. From a personal standpoint, It's like, Oh, here's the playbook that Satan's using to try to get me to not produce and succeed in life. And either way, it's one of my favorite books. In fact, I want to write a book about the book. That's how good it is. But regardless, the reason that I'm bringing that up, in the book initially talks about there's two things, there's fear and there's faith, right?

And everything Satan's trying to do, the devil is trying to do, is trying to get you into a state of fear and everything that Christ is trying to do. Or, the God's trying to do is get you into a state of faith. And it's just like, man, I don't want to say anything to try to get people fearful but to get you to prepare and have faith in something greater that's coming and being prepared for that. So anyway, I hope that this just comes as kind of a warning for everybody whose got a business now and who hasn't thought about that. When I had a hundred employees and we were killing it and all these things were happening. I thought we were untouchable until we weren't. And all it was, was one merchant account decided they didn't like us.

And what's crazy is I actually had 14 merchant accounts, but they're all the same bank and that one bank said they didn't like us and they were gone in a minute. And so it's just like having diversity, having backups, having all those kinds of things. Do you back up your email database? How often? Do you have it somewhere besides your auto-responder company? What if they decide they don't like anymore? Do you have your- just all those things, it's just, be smart, be prepared. Anyway, that's my podcast for today. Thank you Justin Brooke for the post and for getting my head spinning on that. And for all you guys listening, there's a storm coming, but don't be afraid, just have faith and prepare yourself and set up some backup plans so you're ready. And if you do that, then you're not going to be going to be scared when the storm gets here. And if you haven't read Outwitting the Devil yet, seriously, it is such a good book. You can get it on audible. You can get the book version. It's worth reading. So, all right, guys, appreciate you all. Thanks for everything. And we'll talk to you all soon.

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]]> 584 no Chain Marketing https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/chain-marketing Understanding this, will help you become a world class marketer. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Good morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to talk to you a little bit about chain marketing. All right, so if this sounds a little weird today, it's because I'm actually in my sauna. I'm behind on podcast episodes, and so today I took my kids to a virtual trip thing called Seminarians early morning, so it took them this morning, and it is freezing cold today. The wind is almost like a tornado here in Boise, so it was freezing. And I was like, "I'm going to get in the sauna and get warmed up." So I turned the sauna on, and then I was like, "You know what? I'm just sitting here, I should record a podcast." And I started thinking about just things I could talk to you about. And there's so many things. That's the pros and the cons of this podcast. When I first started I was like, "I don't know if I'm going to be able to think of something to talk about every day." And then the other side is like, "There's so many things I could talk about. So many things I want to talk about." It's like, "Where do I go? What do I focus on?" I've been thinking about different ways to increase the experience with this podcast too, and I've got some cool ideas I'm potentially looking at here in the near future. But today what I was thinking about was just something that came up yesterday at wrestling practice, actually. So my days right now are kind of chaotic, as the time I'm recording this we're in the middle of the OFA 30 day challenge, which we're actually doing live right now, which has been really, really fun. But I'm literally doing it live every single day. And before that I did the five day lead challenge. I'm waking up every morning, going in live, streaming live, it's been now one, two, three... It's four weeks, four weeks of live every single morning. Which is good, but it's just like, it's a lot to be consistent that way. Anyway, I digress. So I've been doing that, and then as soon as it gets done, I go and work on the one pager for the day, and then I go finish the other training, other programs, so it's all that stuff I got to get done. And then every day at 10:30 I have to race off to get to wrestling practice with my boys. So they're freshmen in high school this year and we're on the wrestling team and I get to be one of the assistant coaches. So I race in there to get them every day. So my day is like chopped in half basically, which happens every year about this time, but it's fun. So anyway, it's been fun wrestling practice, the last little bit, the coach has had me do a lot more of the teaching and training, and so I've been working on a couple of different moves. I was working on a set up initially where someone has to come in and get inside control. And that's the first move, so we all worked on getting inside control. And then the second thing was like, now you're inside control, now let's work on doing this thing called the steering wheel where I club his head and I pull his tricep one way and than the other way. And it gets them moving. So I'm doing this thing called the steering wheel, which is like a motion drill. And then from there, it's like, there's a lot of things that someone could do. Like if I push into it, if he pushes back into me, I got a snap down. If I push into him and he doesn't push, but he switches his hands to inside control, I got to come back to inside control ready to break it off, or... There was just all these different things. And so it was interesting, when you first are teaching these kids, you teaching each move in isolation. So it's like, "Okay, you have to learn how to do, just like getting inside." That's just one little thing. So you teach them isolation, how to get inside. Then you teach them isolation, like, "Okay, here's how you do a steering wheel," like, "you club here, you pull here and your feet go here." So you drill that, just that one thing. And then you do the next thing. And so you're doing all these moves in isolation. And so we spent like two days then just learning each move in isolation. And then today, or soon yesterday, I went in, and I started working them, "Okay, we're not going to learn anything new today. You guys have all the core fundamentals you need. Today we're going to do a thing we call chain wrestling." What chain wrestling means is, like in a match, you don't just walk out there and like, "Okay, I'm going to do one move," And you get inside control, you're like, "Now what?", right? You don't do that. In a wrestling match, the other dude's battling against you, so you come in, you're like, "Okay, I'm going to go in from my inside control." So you go inside control, but then instantly he's doing something. So then you have to react. Then they do something, and then you react, and back and forth, and back and forth. And so chain wrestling is knowing that I'm not just doing this one move in isolation. I got to be doing this move, to this move, to this move, to this move, and if he does this, I got to shift, do this, this, this. And so it's taking these individual techniques, which is like a link in a chain, and you're chaining them together. So there's four, or five, or six, or seven different things. Because in a real match, you don't walk out and just do one thing. You walk out and you're like, "Hey, I'm going to go for my one thing that I think is my best, but then it's a wrestling match, now it's a battle. And the secret is chain wrestling. It's getting good at moving from this, to this, to this. And then if they go here, you go this, this and then shift to this, this, this, this, and moving back and forth, back and forth. And so that was what yesterday was about, was chain wrestling, tying these individuals moves together into something amazing. And anyway, at practice I was teaching that. It was interesting, because right now I'm in the middle of the OFA 30 day or the One Funnel Away challenge. And I started thinking about it, and the One Funnel Away challenge is actually, the way I'm teaching is very, very similar. And you guys having gone through my training, you'll probably know the same thing. There's all these little techniques that you learn in isolation, so you have all these little techniques that you learn in isolation. So any chapter of my book could be a technique. The attractive character, hook, story, offer, like there's these things. But in and of themselves, they don't do anything. It's when you chain them together into a process that they're successful. And so for example, in the OFA, one of the first things I teach people about is that you're not selling a product, that you're selling a result. That's the first thing. And so then the result, when you're selling this result, when I talk about in there, for example, if somebody comes to you and let's say you're at Home Depot, they don't go to Home Depot to buy a drill. The drill is the tool, but they want a hole in the wall. That's why they're going to get the thing. And same thing, someone doesn't want to buy ClickFunnels. ClickFunnels is the drill. What's the result they want? The result is they want to grow the company. And so ClickFunnels is the drill, but the result is that they want to grow the company. And so it's realizing initially that you're not in the business of selling drills, you're in the business of selling results. And what's the big result someone's looking for if they're coming to you? That's the big question. And then after the big results, they can now step back and like, what's the framework that gets somebody that result? And your drill, may be one step in the framework. ClickFunnels is one step in my framework, but it's not the business. The business is getting people results. That's the first thing I have people understand. So it's like, okay, now understand frameworks is the key. What is the framework? Okay. And the next thing is, how do we turn this framework in... It's like, sorry, so that's one tactic, One technique. That's like me getting somebody inside control. Now you understand that, a business is not a product, a business as a result. What are all the steps in the framework that gets somebody that result? So there's the first technique. The next technique, oh, and now we've got a framework, how do we make this framework tangible? Because just knowing the steps does not make somebody give you money. You have to turn it into something tangible. So from there what we taught people was like, okay, here's the framework, and how to use frameworks," like you needed a video to teach the process. one pager which lays out the homework and assignment, and all that kind of stuff, and now you have something that's tangible that you can trade and exchange for an email address, you can trade and exchange for money. Now you've got a tangible thing. So that's the next technique, is taking the framework and making it tangible. So there's the next piece. And then the third piece, it's like, "How do you increase the value of that framework?". Well now we need to change it from just a singular product into an actual offer, that's the next phase. So how do we turn it into an offer? Well, to make it an offer, we blah, blah, blah. You add the stack multiple products together, and now it becomes a unique, proprietary offer that only you can offer. And that's the next phase, and create an offer. And then I take the offer, and then say, "Okay, now how do we sell this, the core framework, how do we sell that?". Then it becomes the next question, it's like, "What's the sales script we use to sell this product in this thing?". And so that's another standalone. It's like, "Okay, here's a sales script, here's another sales script, here's another one." There's different sales scripts, and that's another technique. And then the next is, "There's different funnels, what funnel do you use?". Then you're plugging it in at each step of the funnel. So anyway, it's interesting because as I look at OFA, we're teaching all these individual techniques, and now this week inside of OFA, and then it's like building an actual funnel. And I explained to people, in fact, yesterday's training I explained this. I was like, "I hope you guys understand this, these foundational things you're learning, like "How to look at business as a result, not a product, and then how to turn that result to a framework, and that framework into something tangible, a product, and then from a product into an offer, and then after you have an offer, how do you sell that offering, what's the sales script to sell that actual offer?", and I was like, if you looking at it this direction, I want you to understand... I even talked about Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid, I'm like "wax on, wax off". I'm like, "This is the thing you have to understand is what I'm teaching you is these things, they don't make sense in isolation." Like, "Who cares about a result?", or it's like, "I don't sell frameworks, I sell e-comm," or it's, "I don't do frameworks, I'm a dentist." Everyone's got the reason why they don't think things work. I'm like, "No, you understand, this is me teaching you to, Mr. Miyagi, like 'wax on wax off,' from Karate Kid. Or it's me coming in to the kids at high school and saying, "Okay, this is inside control, you have to get inside control." And they're like, but coach, I needed to take a shot." You'll take a shot, a shot is part of your setup, but like inside control's, number one, you have to get that, and control that, and keep that. That's the first piece, you guys can't miss that. And then it's like, "Okay, from here, you got to move to a steering wheel, this is how you get them off balance, that's how you get your motion, that's how you get things moving." So we're layering these things on, to now the kids, when they start chain wrestling, it's getting good at, "Okay, step one, two, three, one, two, three." And now in marketing, it's the same way. As you learn these natural skill sets, like the skill set of, of creating a framework, and then turning that framework tangible, and then turning that tangible product into an offer, and then figuring out how to sell that offer, those little skillsets in and by themselves are individual techniques, but when you tie them together, now you can sell anything. Everything people are learning inside OFA, or that you guys are understanding, instead of OFA, I'm giving people a very specific funnel. There's basically a $7 offer, a $37 order form bump, OTO1, OTO2, thank you page. That's the funnel structure. And it's a great funnel structure, but you can take these principles, anything. Say you want to do webinars, it's like, "Hey, I need a webinar." Awesome, and here comes the wax on wax off, here comes the fundamental. So the question like, “on this webinar, what's the framework you're teaching them? What's the result they're trying to get from being on the webinar? What's the framework that you're going to get? How do you turn this into an offer? What's the sales script you need?” And then you're plugging it into the pages of the funnel. Or it's like, "Oh, I'm going to sell a physical product." What's the cart funnel look like? Or I want to sell high ticket, what's the high ticket cart look like? And it's just like, once you have these little fundamentals, it works in every situation. You just give me a different product, I know the fundamentals, it'll work. I step on the mat with a different wrestler, I know these fundamentals, it doesn't matter, it's going to work. And so I'm plugging in all these core fundamentals, but I get good at chain wrestling, I get good at tying the first thing, the second thing, the third thing, the fourth thing. Or you walk... Right now, it's funny, when people hire me from consulting, it's not like I have to think, "Oh, what am I going to do for this company?" I know what I'm going to do. I know the fundamentals. I walk in, "Cool, what are you selling? All right. So right now you're selling a drill. Okay? Understand you're not selling the drill, you're selling a result. What's the result? What's the framework to get that result? Cool. Now we've got that. How do we turn it into something we can sell? All right, now how do we increase the offer? Now what's the sales message we need?" All the pieces just come together, and it doesn't matter what business, what product, what offer, what funnel type, anything you want, those five or six core fundamentals, we're looking at all of them across the board, over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Does that make sense? Just like in wrestling, it's the same thing. You give me any opponent, doesn't matter. I know that off the whistle I'm going to come in and get inside control. From there, I'm going to try to do steering wheel to try to get my motion, get them off balance, and from there, depending on what the pressure is, either I'm going to snap, or I'm going to snap the wrist, I'm going to do an arm drag, I'm going to do a... There's like 10 things I can do off of their pressure, but I'm chaining these things together. Anyway, so I saw the correlation between the two of, a lot of times you learn a technique, or you learn a tactic in isolation, and it's kind of cool, but it's not till you start getting good at chaining these things together that you become a world-class marketer or a world-class wrestler. Because anybody can do the technique, anybody can go and get inside control on somebody, anybody can go and shoot the shot a certain way, anyone can go and do one of the pieces. You becoming a master comes you understanding the pieces at such a level that you can tie them together at any time. In a wrestling match, you don't have to think through it. You walk out there, the whistle blows, the ref's ready to go, and it's a scramble. The second you walk out there. But you have to notice, simply enough, that your brain subconsciously is able to go, "You want from here, to here, to here, to here, to here." I feel like, for me, in business now it's the same way. You bring me anything, it's like, "Okay," I don't have to think through it. Subconsciously I've drilled these tactics so many times, it's just like, "All right, cool. This is what we're doing, this is how it works." Boom, boom, boom, and we're ready to rock and roll. And so, anyway, I just want to share it with you guys. Because I think a lot of you guys are getting stuck learning the tactic, but not chaining them together. There's a marketing game, there's a lot of pieces in it. There's the product, there's the sales message, there's the offer, there's the traffic, there's all these things. So it's like, learn those fundamentals, and then get good at testing them together, chain wrestling. Chain marketing from one to the next, next. The better you get at those fundamental skill sets, the easier and the better you'll be at building out the funnels, creating the sales messages, et cetera, et cetera. So, anyway, I just wanted share with you guys, as I'm trying to help my wrestlers get the next level by mastering first the techniques, and then weaving them together and chain wrestling, I wanted do the same thing to you guys. We're mastering the techniques, the fundamentals, and then you're weaving them together into chain marketing, where you're going from thing, to thing, to thing, and you understand exactly what you need to do, what you got to create, what the process, what the flow is, and they can plug in any product into any funnel, because the fundamentals are the same on every single step. Does that make sense? All right, with that said, my body is now officially warmed up. I'm going to go give Nora a hug before she heads out to school. Appreciate you guys for listening. If you got any value from this episode, please let me know. Take a screenshot on your phone, and then a post on social media and tag me. I like seeing them and reading the comments, it's a lot of fun. And with that said, appreciate you all. And see you guys all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 01 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Chain Marketing full 384 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Understanding this, will help you become a world class marketer. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Good morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets... Understanding this, will help you become a world class marketer. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Good morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to talk to you a little bit about chain marketing. All right, so if this sounds a little weird today, it's because I'm actually in my sauna. I'm behind on podcast episodes, and so today I took my kids to a virtual trip thing called Seminarians early morning, so it took them this morning, and it is freezing cold today. The wind is almost like a tornado here in Boise, so it was freezing. And I was like, "I'm going to get in the sauna and get warmed up." So I turned the sauna on, and then I was like, "You know what? I'm just sitting here, I should record a podcast." And I started thinking about just things I could talk to you about. And there's so many things. That's the pros and the cons of this podcast. When I first started I was like, "I don't know if I'm going to be able to think of something to talk about every day." And then the other side is like, "There's so many things I could talk about. So many things I want to talk about." It's like, "Where do I go? What do I focus on?" I've been thinking about different ways to increase the experience with this podcast too, and I've got some cool ideas I'm potentially looking at here in the near future. But today what I was thinking about was just something that came up yesterday at wrestling practice, actually. So my days right now are kind of chaotic, as the time I'm recording this we're in the middle of the OFA 30 day challenge, which we're actually doing live right now, which has been really, really fun. But I'm literally doing it live every single day. And before that I did the five day lead challenge. I'm waking up every morning, going in live, streaming live, it's been now one, two, three... It's four weeks, four weeks of live every single morning. Which is good, but it's just like, it's a lot to be consistent that way. Anyway, I digress. So I've been doing that, and then as soon as it gets done, I go and work on the one pager for the day, and then I go finish the other training, other programs, so it's all that stuff I got to get done. And then every day at 10:30 I have to race off to get to wrestling practice with my boys. So they're freshmen in high school this year and we're on the wrestling team and I get to be one of the assistant coaches. So I race in there to get them every day. So my day is like chopped in half basically, which happens every year about this time, but it's fun. So anyway, it's been fun wrestling practice, the last little bit, the coach has had me do a lot more of the teaching and training, and so I've been working on a couple of different moves. I was working on a set up initially where someone has to come in and get inside control. And that's the first move, so we all worked on getting inside control. And then the second thing was like, now you're inside control, now let's work on doing this thing called the steering wheel where I club his head and I pull his tricep one way and than the other way. And it gets them moving. So I'm doing this thing called the steering wheel, which is like a motion drill. And then from there, it's like, there's a lot of things that someone could do. Like if I push into it, if he pushes back into me, I got a snap down. If I push into him and he doesn't push, but he switches his hands to inside control, I got to come back to inside control ready to break it off, or... There was just all these different things. And so it was interesting, when you first are teaching these kids, you teaching each move in isolation. So it's like, "Okay, you have to learn how to do, just like getting inside." That's just one little thing. So you teach them isolation, how to get inside. Then you teach them isolation, like, "Okay, here's how you do a steering wheel," like, "you club here, you pull here and your feet go here." So you drill that, just that one thing. And then you do the next thing. And so you're doing all these moves in isolation. And so we spent like two days then just learning each move in isolation. And then today, or soon yesterday, I went in, and I started working them, "Okay, we're not going to learn anything new today. You guys have all the core fundamentals you need. Today we're going to do a thing we call chain wrestling." What chain wrestling means is, like in a match, you don't just walk out there and like, "Okay, I'm going to do one move," And you get inside control, you're like, "Now what?", right? You don't do that. In a wrestling match, the other dude's battling against you, so you come in, you're like, "Okay, I'm going to go in from my inside control." So you go inside control, but then instantly he's doing something. So then you have to react. Then they do something, and then you react, and back and forth, and back and forth. And so chain wrestling is knowing that I'm not just doing this one move in isolation. I got to be doing this move, to this move, to this move, to this move, and if he does this, I got to shift, do this, this, this. And so it's taking these individual techniques, which is like a link in a chain, and you're chaining them together. So there's four, or five, or six, or seven different things. Because in a real match, you don't walk out and just do one thing. You walk out and you're like, "Hey, I'm going to go for my one thing that I think is my best, but then it's a wrestling match, now it's a battle. And the secret is chain wrestling. It's getting good at moving from this, to this, to this. And then if they go here, you go this, this and then shift to this, this, this, this, and moving back and forth, back and forth. And so that was what yesterday was about, was chain wrestling, tying these individuals moves together into something amazing. And anyway, at practice I was teaching that. It was interesting, because right now I'm in the middle of the OFA 30 day or the One Funnel Away challenge. And I started thinking about it, and the One Funnel Away challenge is actually, the way I'm teaching is very, very similar. And you guys having gone through my training, you'll probably know the same thing. There's all these little techniques that you learn in isolation, so you have all these little techniques that you learn in isolation. So any chapter of my book could be a technique. The attractive character, hook, story, offer, like there's these things. But in and of themselves, they don't do anything. It's when you chain them together into a process that they're successful. And so for example, in the OFA, one of the first things I teach people about is that you're not selling a product, that you're selling a result. That's the first thing. And so then the result, when you're selling this result, when I talk about in there, for example, if somebody comes to you and let's say you're at Home Depot, they don't go to Home Depot to buy a drill. The drill is the tool, but they want a hole in the wall. That's why they're going to get the thing. And same thing, someone doesn't want to buy ClickFunnels. ClickFunnels is the drill. What's the result they want? The result is they want to grow the company. And so ClickFunnels is the drill, but the result is that they want to grow the company. And so it's realizing initially that you're not in the business of selling drills, you're in the business of selling results. And what's the big result someone's looking for if they're coming to you? That's the big question. And then after the big results, they can now step back and like, what's the framework that gets somebody that result? And your drill, may be one step in the framework. ClickFunnels is one step in my framework, but it's not the business. The business is getting people results. That's the first thing I have people understand. So it's like, okay, now understand frameworks is the key. What is the framework? Okay. And the next thing is, how do we turn this framework in... It's like, sorry, so that's one tactic, One technique. That's like me getting somebody inside control. Now you understand that, a business is not a product, a business as a result. What are all the steps in the framework that gets somebody that result? So there's the first technique. The next technique, oh, and now we've got a framework, how do we make this framework tangible? Because just knowing the steps does not make somebody give you money. You have to turn it into something tangible. So from there what we taught people was like, okay, here's the framework, and how to use frameworks," like you needed a video to teach the process. one pager which lays out the homework and assignment, and all that kind of stuff, and now you have something that's tangible that you can trade and exchange for an email address, you can trade and exchange for money. Now you've got a tangible thing. So that's the next technique, is taking the framework and making it tangible. So there's the next piece. And then the third piece, it's like, "How do you increase the value of that framework?". Well now we need to change it from just a singular product into an actual offer, that's the next phase. So how do we turn it into an offer? Well, to make it an offer, we blah, blah, blah. You add the stack multiple products together, and now it becomes a unique, proprietary offer that only you can offer. And that's the next phase, and create an offer. And then I take the offer, and then say, "Okay, now how do we sell this, the core framework, how do we sell that?". Then it becomes the next question, it's like, "What's the sales script we use to sell this product in this thing?". And so that's another standalone. It's like, "Okay, here's a sales script, here's another sales script, here's another one." There's different sales scripts, and that's another technique. And then the next is, "There's different funnels, what funnel do you use?". Then you're plugging it in at each step of the funnel. So anyway, it's interesting because as I look at OFA, we're teaching all these individual techniques, and now this week inside of OFA, and then it's like building an actual funnel. And I explained to people, in fact, yesterday's training I explained this. I was like, "I hope you guys understand this, these foundational things you're learning, like "How to look at business as a result, not a product, and then how to turn that result to a framework, and that framework into something tangible, a product, and then from a product into an offer, and then after you have an offer, how do you sell that offering, what's the sales script to sell that actual offer?", and I was like, if you looking at it this direction, I want you to understand... I even talked about Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid, I'm like "wax on, wax off". I'm like, "This is the thing you have to understand is what I'm teaching you is these things, they don't make sense in isolation." Like, "Who cares about a result?", or it's like, "I don't sell frameworks, I sell e-comm," or it's, "I don't do frameworks, I'm a dentist." Everyone's got the reason why they don't think things work. I'm like, "No, you understand, this is me teaching you to, Mr. Miyagi, like 'wax on wax off,' from Karate Kid. Or it's me coming in to the kids at high school and saying, "Okay, this is inside control, you have to get inside control." And they're like, but coach, I needed to take a shot." You'll take a shot, a shot is part of your setup, but like inside control's, number one, you have to get that, and control that, and keep that. That's the first piece, you guys can't miss that. And then it's like, "Okay, from here, you got to move to a steering wheel, this is how you get them off balance, that's how you get your motion, that's how you get things moving." So we're layering these things on, to now the kids, when they start chain wrestling, it's getting good at, "Okay, step one, two, three, one, two, three." And now in marketing, it's the same way. As you learn these natural skill sets, like the skill set of, of creating a framework, and then turning that framework tangible, and then turning that tangible product into an offer, and then figuring out how to sell that offer, those little skillsets in and by themselves are individual techniques, but when you tie them together, now you can sell anything. Everything people are learning inside OFA, or that you guys are understanding, instead of OFA, I'm giving people a very specific funnel. There's basically a $7 offer, a $37 order form bump, OTO1, OTO2, thank you page. That's the funnel structure. And it's a great funnel structure, but you can take these principles, anything. Say you want to do webinars, it's like, "Hey, I need a webinar." Awesome, and here comes the wax on wax off, here comes the fundamental. So the question like, “on this webinar, what's the framework you're teaching them? What's the result they're trying to get from being on the webinar? What's the framework that you're going to get? How do you turn this into an offer? What's the sales script you need?” And then you're plugging it into the pages of the funnel. Or it's like, "Oh, I'm going to sell a physical product." What's the cart funnel look like? Or I want to sell high ticket, what's the high ticket cart look like? And it's just like, once you have these little fundamentals, it works in every situation. You just give me a different product, I know the fundamentals, it'll work. I step on the mat with a different wrestler, I know these fundamentals, it doesn't matter, it's going to work. And so I'm plugging in all these core fundamentals, but I get good at chain wrestling, I get good at tying the first thing, the second thing, the third thing, the fourth thing. Or you walk... Right now, it's funny, when people hire me from consulting, it's not like I have to think, "Oh, what am I going to do for this company?" I know what I'm going to do. I know the fundamentals. I walk in, "Cool, what are you selling? All right. So right now you're selling a drill. Okay? Understand you're not selling the drill, you're selling a result. What's the result? What's the framework to get that result? Cool. Now we've got that. How do we turn it into something we can sell? All right, now how do we increase the offer? Now what's the sales message we need?" All the pieces just come together, and it doesn't matter what business, what product, what offer, what funnel type, anything you want, those five or six core fundamentals, we're looking at all of them across the board, over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Does that make sense? Just like in wrestling, it's the same thing. You give me any opponent, doesn't matter. I know that off the whistle I'm going to come in and get inside control. From there, I'm going to try to do steering wheel to try to get my motion, get them off balance, and from there, depending on what the pressure is, either I'm going to snap, or I'm going to snap the wrist, I'm going to do an arm drag, I'm going to do a... There's like 10 things I can do off of their pressure, but I'm chaining these things together. Anyway, so I saw the correlation between the two of, a lot of times you learn a technique, or you learn a tactic in isolation, and it's kind of cool, but it's not till you start getting good at chaining these things together that you become a world-class marketer or a world-class wrestler. Because anybody can do the technique, anybody can go and get inside control on somebody, anybody can go and shoot the shot a certain way, anyone can go and do one of the pieces. You becoming a master comes you understanding the pieces at such a level that you can tie them together at any time. In a wrestling match, you don't have to think through it. You walk out there, the whistle blows, the ref's ready to go, and it's a scramble. The second you walk out there. But you have to notice, simply enough, that your brain subconsciously is able to go, "You want from here, to here, to here, to here, to here." I feel like, for me, in business now it's the same way. You bring me anything, it's like, "Okay," I don't have to think through it. Subconsciously I've drilled these tactics so many times, it's just like, "All right, cool. This is what we're doing, this is how it works." Boom, boom, boom, and we're ready to rock and roll. And so, anyway, I just want to share it with you guys. Because I think a lot of you guys are getting stuck learning the tactic, but not chaining them together. There's a marketing game, there's a lot of pieces in it. There's the product, there's the sales message, there's the offer, there's the traffic, there's all these things. So it's like, learn those fundamentals, and then get good at testing them together, chain wrestling. Chain marketing from one to the next, next. The better you get at those fundamental skill sets, the easier and the better you'll be at building out the funnels, creating the sales messages, et cetera, et cetera. So, anyway, I just wanted share with you guys, as I'm trying to help my wrestlers get the next level by mastering first the techniques, and then weaving them together and chain wrestling, I wanted do the same thing to you guys. We're mastering the techniques, the fundamentals, and then you're weaving them together into chain marketing, where you're going from thing, to thing, to thing, and you understand exactly what you need to do, what you got to create, what the process, what the flow is, and they can plug in any product into any funnel, because the fundamentals are the same on every single step. Does that make sense? All right, with that said, my body is now officially warmed up. I'm going to go give Nora a hug before she heads out to school. Appreciate you guys for listening. If you got any value from this episode, please let me know. Take a screenshot on your phone, and then a post on social media and tag me. I like seeing them and reading the comments, it's a lot of fun. And with that said, appreciate you all. And see you guys all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Understanding this, will help you become a world class marketer.

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Good morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to talk to you a little bit about chain marketing. All right, so if this sounds a little weird today, it's because I'm actually in my sauna. I'm behind on podcast episodes, and so today I took my kids to a virtual trip thing called Seminarians early morning, so it took them this morning, and it is freezing cold today. The wind is almost like a tornado here in Boise, so it was freezing. And I was like, "I'm going to get in the sauna and get warmed up." So I turned the sauna on, and then I was like, "You know what? I'm just sitting here, I should record a podcast."

And I started thinking about just things I could talk to you about. And there's so many things. That's the pros and the cons of this podcast. When I first started I was like, "I don't know if I'm going to be able to think of something to talk about every day." And then the other side is like, "There's so many things I could talk about. So many things I want to talk about." It's like, "Where do I go? What do I focus on?" I've been thinking about different ways to increase the experience with this podcast too, and I've got some cool ideas I'm potentially looking at here in the near future.

But today what I was thinking about was just something that came up yesterday at wrestling practice, actually. So my days right now are kind of chaotic, as the time I'm recording this we're in the middle of the OFA 30 day challenge, which we're actually doing live right now, which has been really, really fun. But I'm literally doing it live every single day. And before that I did the five day lead challenge. I'm waking up every morning, going in live, streaming live, it's been now one, two, three... It's four weeks, four weeks of live every single morning. Which is good, but it's just like, it's a lot to be consistent that way.

Anyway, I digress. So I've been doing that, and then as soon as it gets done, I go and work on the one pager for the day, and then I go finish the other training, other programs, so it's all that stuff I got to get done. And then every day at 10:30 I have to race off to get to wrestling practice with my boys. So they're freshmen in high school this year and we're on the wrestling team and I get to be one of the assistant coaches. So I race in there to get them every day. So my day is like chopped in half basically, which happens every year about this time, but it's fun.

So anyway, it's been fun wrestling practice, the last little bit, the coach has had me do a lot more of the teaching and training, and so I've been working on a couple of different moves. I was working on a set up initially where someone has to come in and get inside control. And that's the first move, so we all worked on getting inside control. And then the second thing was like, now you're inside control, now let's work on doing this thing called the steering wheel where I club his head and I pull his tricep one way and than the other way. And it gets them moving. So I'm doing this thing called the steering wheel, which is like a motion drill. And then from there, it's like, there's a lot of things that someone could do. Like if I push into it, if he pushes back into me, I got a snap down. If I push into him and he doesn't push, but he switches his hands to inside control, I got to come back to inside control ready to break it off, or... There was just all these different things.

And so it was interesting, when you first are teaching these kids, you teaching each move in isolation. So it's like, "Okay, you have to learn how to do, just like getting inside." That's just one little thing. So you teach them isolation, how to get inside. Then you teach them isolation, like, "Okay, here's how you do a steering wheel," like, "you club here, you pull here and your feet go here." So you drill that, just that one thing. And then you do the next thing. And so you're doing all these moves in isolation. And so we spent like two days then just learning each move in isolation.

And then today, or soon yesterday, I went in, and I started working them, "Okay, we're not going to learn anything new today. You guys have all the core fundamentals you need. Today we're going to do a thing we call chain wrestling." What chain wrestling means is, like in a match, you don't just walk out there and like, "Okay, I'm going to do one move," And you get inside control, you're like, "Now what?", right? You don't do that. In a wrestling match, the other dude's battling against you, so you come in, you're like, "Okay, I'm going to go in from my inside control." So you go inside control, but then instantly he's doing something. So then you have to react. Then they do something, and then you react, and back and forth, and back and forth.

And so chain wrestling is knowing that I'm not just doing this one move in isolation. I got to be doing this move, to this move, to this move, to this move, and if he does this, I got to shift, do this, this, this. And so it's taking these individual techniques, which is like a link in a chain, and you're chaining them together. So there's four, or five, or six, or seven different things. Because in a real match, you don't walk out and just do one thing. You walk out and you're like, "Hey, I'm going to go for my one thing that I think is my best, but then it's a wrestling match, now it's a battle. And the secret is chain wrestling. It's getting good at moving from this, to this, to this. And then if they go here, you go this, this and then shift to this, this, this, this, and moving back and forth, back and forth.

And so that was what yesterday was about, was chain wrestling, tying these individuals moves together into something amazing. And anyway, at practice I was teaching that. It was interesting, because right now I'm in the middle of the OFA 30 day or the One Funnel Away challenge. And I started thinking about it, and the One Funnel Away challenge is actually, the way I'm teaching is very, very similar. And you guys having gone through my training, you'll probably know the same thing. There's all these little techniques that you learn in isolation, so you have all these little techniques that you learn in isolation.

So any chapter of my book could be a technique. The attractive character, hook, story, offer, like there's these things. But in and of themselves, they don't do anything. It's when you chain them together into a process that they're successful. And so for example, in the OFA, one of the first things I teach people about is that you're not selling a product, that you're selling a result. That's the first thing. And so then the result, when you're selling this result, when I talk about in there, for example, if somebody comes to you and let's say you're at Home Depot, they don't go to Home Depot to buy a drill. The drill is the tool, but they want a hole in the wall. That's why they're going to get the thing. And same thing, someone doesn't want to buy ClickFunnels. ClickFunnels is the drill. What's the result they want? The result is they want to grow the company. And so ClickFunnels is the drill, but the result is that they want to grow the company.

And so it's realizing initially that you're not in the business of selling drills, you're in the business of selling results. And what's the big result someone's looking for if they're coming to you? That's the big question. And then after the big results, they can now step back and like, what's the framework that gets somebody that result? And your drill, may be one step in the framework. ClickFunnels is one step in my framework, but it's not the business. The business is getting people results. That's the first thing I have people understand. So it's like, okay, now understand frameworks is the key. What is the framework? Okay. And the next thing is, how do we turn this framework in... It's like, sorry, so that's one tactic, One technique. That's like me getting somebody inside control. Now you understand that, a business is not a product, a business as a result. What are all the steps in the framework that gets somebody that result? So there's the first technique.

The next technique, oh, and now we've got a framework, how do we make this framework tangible? Because just knowing the steps does not make somebody give you money. You have to turn it into something tangible. So from there what we taught people was like, okay, here's the framework, and how to use frameworks," like you needed a video to teach the process. one pager which lays out the homework and assignment, and all that kind of stuff, and now you have something that's tangible that you can trade and exchange for an email address, you can trade and exchange for money. Now you've got a tangible thing. So that's the next technique, is taking the framework and making it tangible. So there's the next piece.

And then the third piece, it's like, "How do you increase the value of that framework?". Well now we need to change it from just a singular product into an actual offer, that's the next phase. So how do we turn it into an offer? Well, to make it an offer, we blah, blah, blah. You add the stack multiple products together, and now it becomes a unique, proprietary offer that only you can offer. And that's the next phase, and create an offer. And then I take the offer, and then say, "Okay, now how do we sell this, the core framework, how do we sell that?".

Then it becomes the next question, it's like, "What's the sales script we use to sell this product in this thing?". And so that's another standalone. It's like, "Okay, here's a sales script, here's another sales script, here's another one." There's different sales scripts, and that's another technique. And then the next is, "There's different funnels, what funnel do you use?". Then you're plugging it in at each step of the funnel.

So anyway, it's interesting because as I look at OFA, we're teaching all these individual techniques, and now this week inside of OFA, and then it's like building an actual funnel. And I explained to people, in fact, yesterday's training I explained this. I was like, "I hope you guys understand this, these foundational things you're learning, like "How to look at business as a result, not a product, and then how to turn that result to a framework, and that framework into something tangible, a product, and then from a product into an offer, and then after you have an offer, how do you sell that offering, what's the sales script to sell that actual offer?", and I was like, if you looking at it this direction, I want you to understand... I even talked about Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid, I'm like "wax on, wax off".

I'm like, "This is the thing you have to understand is what I'm teaching you is these things, they don't make sense in isolation." Like, "Who cares about a result?", or it's like, "I don't sell frameworks, I sell e-comm," or it's, "I don't do frameworks, I'm a dentist." Everyone's got the reason why they don't think things work. I'm like, "No, you understand, this is me teaching you to, Mr. Miyagi, like 'wax on wax off,' from Karate Kid. Or it's me coming in to the kids at high school and saying, "Okay, this is inside control, you have to get inside control." And they're like, but coach, I needed to take a shot." You'll take a shot, a shot is part of your setup, but like inside control's, number one, you have to get that, and control that, and keep that. That's the first piece, you guys can't miss that.

And then it's like, "Okay, from here, you got to move to a steering wheel, this is how you get them off balance, that's how you get your motion, that's how you get things moving." So we're layering these things on, to now the kids, when they start chain wrestling, it's getting good at, "Okay, step one, two, three, one, two, three." And now in marketing, it's the same way. As you learn these natural skill sets, like the skill set of, of creating a framework, and then turning that framework tangible, and then turning that tangible product into an offer, and then figuring out how to sell that offer, those little skillsets in and by themselves are individual techniques, but when you tie them together, now you can sell anything.

Everything people are learning inside OFA, or that you guys are understanding, instead of OFA, I'm giving people a very specific funnel. There's basically a $7 offer, a $37 order form bump, OTO1, OTO2, thank you page. That's the funnel structure. And it's a great funnel structure, but you can take these principles, anything. Say you want to do webinars, it's like, "Hey, I need a webinar." Awesome, and here comes the wax on wax off, here comes the fundamental. So the question like, “on this webinar, what's the framework you're teaching them? What's the result they're trying to get from being on the webinar? What's the framework that you're going to get? How do you turn this into an offer? What's the sales script you need?” And then you're plugging it into the pages of the funnel.

Or it's like, "Oh, I'm going to sell a physical product." What's the cart funnel look like? Or I want to sell high ticket, what's the high ticket cart look like? And it's just like, once you have these little fundamentals, it works in every situation. You just give me a different product, I know the fundamentals, it'll work. I step on the mat with a different wrestler, I know these fundamentals, it doesn't matter, it's going to work.

And so I'm plugging in all these core fundamentals, but I get good at chain wrestling, I get good at tying the first thing, the second thing, the third thing, the fourth thing. Or you walk... Right now, it's funny, when people hire me from consulting, it's not like I have to think, "Oh, what am I going to do for this company?" I know what I'm going to do. I know the fundamentals. I walk in, "Cool, what are you selling? All right. So right now you're selling a drill. Okay? Understand you're not selling the drill, you're selling a result. What's the result? What's the framework to get that result? Cool. Now we've got that. How do we turn it into something we can sell? All right, now how do we increase the offer? Now what's the sales message we need?"

All the pieces just come together, and it doesn't matter what business, what product, what offer, what funnel type, anything you want, those five or six core fundamentals, we're looking at all of them across the board, over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Does that make sense? Just like in wrestling, it's the same thing. You give me any opponent, doesn't matter. I know that off the whistle I'm going to come in and get inside control. From there, I'm going to try to do steering wheel to try to get my motion, get them off balance, and from there, depending on what the pressure is, either I'm going to snap, or I'm going to snap the wrist, I'm going to do an arm drag, I'm going to do a... There's like 10 things I can do off of their pressure, but I'm chaining these things together.

Anyway, so I saw the correlation between the two of, a lot of times you learn a technique, or you learn a tactic in isolation, and it's kind of cool, but it's not till you start getting good at chaining these things together that you become a world-class marketer or a world-class wrestler. Because anybody can do the technique, anybody can go and get inside control on somebody, anybody can go and shoot the shot a certain way, anyone can go and do one of the pieces. You becoming a master comes you understanding the pieces at such a level that you can tie them together at any time. In a wrestling match, you don't have to think through it. You walk out there, the whistle blows, the ref's ready to go, and it's a scramble. The second you walk out there.

But you have to notice, simply enough, that your brain subconsciously is able to go, "You want from here, to here, to here, to here, to here." I feel like, for me, in business now it's the same way. You bring me anything, it's like, "Okay," I don't have to think through it. Subconsciously I've drilled these tactics so many times, it's just like, "All right, cool. This is what we're doing, this is how it works." Boom, boom, boom, and we're ready to rock and roll. And so, anyway, I just want to share it with you guys.

Because I think a lot of you guys are getting stuck learning the tactic, but not chaining them together. There's a marketing game, there's a lot of pieces in it. There's the product, there's the sales message, there's the offer, there's the traffic, there's all these things. So it's like, learn those fundamentals, and then get good at testing them together, chain wrestling. Chain marketing from one to the next, next. The better you get at those fundamental skill sets, the easier and the better you'll be at building out the funnels, creating the sales messages, et cetera, et cetera.

So, anyway, I just wanted share with you guys, as I'm trying to help my wrestlers get the next level by mastering first the techniques, and then weaving them together and chain wrestling, I wanted do the same thing to you guys. We're mastering the techniques, the fundamentals, and then you're weaving them together into chain marketing, where you're going from thing, to thing, to thing, and you understand exactly what you need to do, what you got to create, what the process, what the flow is, and they can plug in any product into any funnel, because the fundamentals are the same on every single step.

Does that make sense? All right, with that said, my body is now officially warmed up. I'm going to go give Nora a hug before she heads out to school. Appreciate you guys for listening. If you got any value from this episode, please let me know. Take a screenshot on your phone, and then a post on social media and tag me. I like seeing them and reading the comments, it's a lot of fun. And with that said, appreciate you all. And see you guys all soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 1013 no Aligning Your Will With The Marketplace (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/aligning-your-will-with-the-marketplace-revisited On this previously released episode, Russell reminds you to listen to what the market wants instead of telling it what it wants. This episode is a few years old, but the message is still just as important today! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I want to share something today, and some of you might be thinking, Russell this is a marketing podcast why are you talking about God? Because he has to do with everything, it’s really important. And the lesson I learned this weekend has to do with God, but it also then relates back to you guys and your market, so I think it’s really, really important. So I was in Utah and I had a meeting with someone who is one of the top leaders in my church, the Mormon church. And we believe in our church that there’s a prophet and his 12 apostles, similar to how when Christ was on Earth. And my meeting was with one of the twelve apostles, which was really a huge honor, and scary and exciting and all those things all wrapped into one. And I had a chance to meet with him. So this whole week prior to leading up to it, I’ve had a lot of thoughts about just life and how things work and then obviously meeting with him and then afterwards, it was a really neat reflection in time. And there was something that came out, I mean, there was a lot of stuff I wish I could share in the context of this podcast, but it’s probably not appropriate or the right spot, so I won’t. But there was one thing that just kept ringing through my head that I wanted to share because I think it’s important and it does relate back to marketing. So there you go. Is it I alright if I relate it back to marketing, if I talk about God for a few minutes? Hopefully that’s okay. So it’s interesting, if you look at the world, what the world tries to do is that they see, I don’t want to get political because I don’t care about politics at all, so I’m not going to get political. But I see this mostly, it’s amplified in politics, where it’s like these are the agenda items that people either believe this or believe this and they fight back and forth, who’s right and who’s wrong, and all that stuff. And it’s kind of crazy. And it’s been interesting, in my life, and I’m not perfect in this by any stretch, this is what I aspire to be, when I look at an issue, when I look at something it shouldn’t be what do I believe. What does Russell believe on this topic? It should be, okay I believe in a God, so what does God actually believe on this topic? And then my job as a human here is not to try to convince God that, “No, no, no, you’re wrong.” Because he’s not. So my goal is to look at what he believes on the topic and then bend my will towards that. Say, okay this is what he believes therefore this is what I believe. That’s how it should be, if you do believe in an all powerful creator who created the heavens and the earth and everything. I think we should bend our will towards him. This is what he thinks, therefore this is what I think, on any topic. I think that’s important as we’re trying to set up our belief’s. What we’re for and what we’re against. It should be less of, this is my opinion, this is what I think is right, this is what I studied, what I read. It should be like, what does God actually think and then sit back and pray and find out what he believes and then be like cool. I will align my will with yours. I will align with that because that’s what you believe. So I was thinking about that, again, something I probably wouldn’t normally share inside the podcast, but I started thinking about this from the business standpoint too because there’s always correlations between all things. And it’s funny because a lot of the entrepreneurs that I work with, it’s interesting what they do. They have an idea, “This is a product I want to create. It’s the greatest thing in the world. It’s going to change mankind. I want to charge this price for it, this is how I want to deliver it.” And they have all these things that they want to do because it’s their idea. It’s their baby. And they go out there and they put it on the market and the market crushes it and it’s like, that idea sucks. Or that price point is not right. Or whatever it is, the market goes and does it’s thing. And the market in this situation is kind of like God. The market doesn’t care who you are, not that God, God does care. But the market doesn’t care who you are. The market doesn’t care how good your ideas are. The market is what it is. If you put your thing out there and it will tell you, that idea sucked. Or that idea is amazing. Or whatever the thing in between there is. And our job as entrepreneurs, is not to try to convince the market that our idea is the best, our job is to find out what does the market actually want and then align our will with that. And when you do that, that’s when things explode. That’s why when we test funnels, we’ll test and be like, oh the market said no. And we try again and we test and tweak the messaging and the pricing, we keep moving things around until we figure out what does the market actually want? How much do they want to spend for this? What’s the price point? What do they actually want? Do they even want this product?  A lot of my ideas they didn’t want. As great of an idea as I thought they were, the market did not care about it. And the market is the only thing that actually matters. So I always tell people, it drives me crazy people in my coaching programs, Facebook groups, and everything will come in and be like, “What’s your opinion on this?” and I’m like, “Dude, don’t take my opinion on it. I don’t even trust my opinion on my own stuff. I let the market decide. I create the thing the best I know how to do, based on what I have seen the market respond to in the past. I make the thing and then I send some traffic to it and I let the market vote. And I don’t let the market vote through quizzes or surveys or things like that. Where they’re like, ‘Oh yeah, I would buy that.’ The only thing that I care about is people that actually pull their wallets out of their pocket and swipe their credit card. That is how the market votes. They don’t vote with their mouth, they vote with their credit card.” Anyway, so that’s how it works. So for you guys, as entrepreneurs, it’s important for you to not get so caught up on your ideas and what you believe. It is important for you to figure out what the market actually wants. What they actually believe. They believe this is worth this amount of money, they believe that this is what they want to buy. You figure out what the market actually wants, and you do that you become rich. If you fight against that, you struggle. I’ve seen people go years, maybe decades and never have success because they are trying to jam their belief’s down the market’s throat. And the market doesn’t care about you, all the market wants is what it wants. So you gotta figure out what it wants and then you align your will with that. And that’s it. So as I was thinking about that this weekend with God and our responsibility to not so much try to dictate what we believe and try to shove it down his throat. But to figure out what he believes and align our will him. It’s the same thing with the market. And when you understand that, that’s when business becomes a lot easier. It comes back to Expert Secrets 101, like page 3 or whatever, find a hot market, ask them what they want, and then give it to them. It does not say, find a hot market, decide what you think would be awesome to create and then jam it down their throats. That is a hard business to run. Okay, it’s the opposite way. Find a hot market, ask what they want, and then give it to them. That’s it and the market will tell you. The market will tell you if you’re right. The market will tell you if you’re wrong. If you’re wrong, don’t be mad about it. Just change your approach, change the pricing, change the hook, change the angle, change the product, change the service. Create what it wants and then everything will take place that you need it to. Okay, there you go, is that okay that we reel religion into this thing? Because even if you guys don’t believe in God, it doesn’t mean he’s not there. That’s what’s interesting. I have people, friends that are like, “I don’t believe in God, you shouldn’t talk about it.” I’m like, “Whether you believe in him or not, he’s still there.” That’s the interesting thing. People are like, “I don’t believe this will sell.” Whether you believe it or not, it doesn’t really matter, it’s what the market believes. So let’s go find out what the truth is, and let’s align our belief’s with that. That’s in all aspects of life. So there you go. That’s preacher Brunson preaching on. Hope you guys don’t mind. Anyway, regardless, I hope you got something out of that one and hopefully you guys understand that’s how the world works, how the market works. And when you understand that, and you align your will toward it, that’s how you grow a company. Find a hot market, ask what they want, and give it to them. Alright guys, I’m at the office, I gotta go. See you all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Aligning Your Will With The Marketplace (Revisited!) full 383 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this previously released episode, Russell reminds you to listen to what the market wants instead of telling it what it wants. This episode is a few years old, but the message is still just as important today! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text... On this previously released episode, Russell reminds you to listen to what the market wants instead of telling it what it wants. This episode is a few years old, but the message is still just as important today! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I want to share something today, and some of you might be thinking, Russell this is a marketing podcast why are you talking about God? Because he has to do with everything, it’s really important. And the lesson I learned this weekend has to do with God, but it also then relates back to you guys and your market, so I think it’s really, really important. So I was in Utah and I had a meeting with someone who is one of the top leaders in my church, the Mormon church. And we believe in our church that there’s a prophet and his 12 apostles, similar to how when Christ was on Earth. And my meeting was with one of the twelve apostles, which was really a huge honor, and scary and exciting and all those things all wrapped into one. And I had a chance to meet with him. So this whole week prior to leading up to it, I’ve had a lot of thoughts about just life and how things work and then obviously meeting with him and then afterwards, it was a really neat reflection in time. And there was something that came out, I mean, there was a lot of stuff I wish I could share in the context of this podcast, but it’s probably not appropriate or the right spot, so I won’t. But there was one thing that just kept ringing through my head that I wanted to share because I think it’s important and it does relate back to marketing. So there you go. Is it I alright if I relate it back to marketing, if I talk about God for a few minutes? Hopefully that’s okay. So it’s interesting, if you look at the world, what the world tries to do is that they see, I don’t want to get political because I don’t care about politics at all, so I’m not going to get political. But I see this mostly, it’s amplified in politics, where it’s like these are the agenda items that people either believe this or believe this and they fight back and forth, who’s right and who’s wrong, and all that stuff. And it’s kind of crazy. And it’s been interesting, in my life, and I’m not perfect in this by any stretch, this is what I aspire to be, when I look at an issue, when I look at something it shouldn’t be what do I believe. What does Russell believe on this topic? It should be, okay I believe in a God, so what does God actually believe on this topic? And then my job as a human here is not to try to convince God that, “No, no, no, you’re wrong.” Because he’s not. So my goal is to look at what he believes on the topic and then bend my will towards that. Say, okay this is what he believes therefore this is what I believe. That’s how it should be, if you do believe in an all powerful creator who created the heavens and the earth and everything. I think we should bend our will towards him. This is what he thinks, therefore this is what I think, on any topic. I think that’s important as we’re trying to set up our belief’s. What we’re for and what we’re against. It should be less of, this is my opinion, this is what I think is right, this is what I studied, what I read. It should be like, what does God actually think and then sit back and pray and find out what he believes and then be like cool. I will align my will with yours. I will align with that because that’s what you believe. So I was thinking about that, again, something I probably wouldn’t normally share inside the podcast, but I started thinking about this from the business standpoint too because there’s always correlations between all things. And it’s funny because a lot of the entrepreneurs that I work with, it’s interesting what they do. They have an idea, “This is a product I want to create. It’s the greatest thing in the world. It’s going to change mankind. I want to charge this price for it, this is how I want to deliver it.” And they have all these things that they want to do because it’s their idea. It’s their baby. And they go out there and they put it on the market and the market crushes it and it’s like, that idea sucks. Or that price point is not right. Or whatever it is, the market goes and does it’s thing. And the market in this situation is kind of like God. The market doesn’t care who you are, not that God, God does care. But the market doesn’t care who you are. The market doesn’t care how good your ideas are. The market is what it is. If you put your thing out there and it will tell you, that idea sucked. Or that idea is amazing. Or whatever the thing in between there is. And our job as entrepreneurs, is not to try to convince the market that our idea is the best, our job is to find out what does the market actually want and then align our will with that. And when you do that, that’s when things explode. That’s why when we test funnels, we’ll test and be like, oh the market said no. And we try again and we test and tweak the messaging and the pricing, we keep moving things around until we figure out what does the market actually want? How much do they want to spend for this? What’s the price point? What do they actually want? Do they even want this product?  A lot of my ideas they didn’t want. As great of an idea as I thought they were, the market did not care about it. And the market is the only thing that actually matters. So I always tell people, it drives me crazy people in my coaching programs, Facebook groups, and everything will come in and be like, “What’s your opinion on this?” and I’m like, “Dude, don’t take my opinion on it. I don’t even trust my opinion on my own stuff. I let the market decide. I create the thing the best I know how to do, based on what I have seen the market respond to in the past. I make the thing and then I send some traffic to it and I let the market vote. And I don’t let the market vote through quizzes or surveys or things like that. Where they’re like, ‘Oh yeah, I would buy that.’ The only thing that I care about is people that actually pull their wallets out of their pocket and swipe their credit card. That is how the market votes. They don’t vote with their mouth, they vote with their credit card.” Anyway, so that’s how it works. So for you guys, as entrepreneurs, it’s important for you to not get so caught up on your ideas and what you believe. It is important for you to figure out what the market actually wants. What they actually believe. They believe this is worth this amount of money, they believe that this is what they want to buy. You figure out what the market actually wants, and you do that you become rich. If you fight against that, you struggle. I’ve seen people go years, maybe decades and never have success because they are trying to jam their belief’s down the market’s throat. And the market doesn’t care about you, all the market wants is what it wants. So you gotta figure out what it wants and then you align your will with that. And that’s it. So as I was thinking about that this weekend with God and our responsibility to not so much try to dictate what we believe and try to shove it down his throat. But to figure out what he believes and align our will him. It’s the same thing with the market. And when you understand that, that’s when business becomes a lot easier. It comes back to Expert Secrets 101, like page 3 or whatever, find a hot market, ask them what they want, and then give it to them. It does not say, find a hot market, decide what you think would be awesome to create and then jam it down their throats. That is a hard business to run. Okay, it’s the opposite way. Find a hot market, ask what they want, and then give it to them. That’s it and the market will tell you. The market will tell you if you’re right. The market will tell you if you’re wrong. If you’re wrong, don’t be mad about it. Just change your approach, change the pricing, change the hook, change the angle, change the product, change the service. Create what it wants and then everything will take place that you need it to. Okay, there you go, is that okay that we reel religion into this thing? Because even if you guys don’t believe in God, it doesn’t mean he’s not there. That’s what’s interesting. I have people, friends that are like, “I don’t believe in God, you shouldn’t talk about it.” I’m like, “Whether you believe in him or not, he’s still there.” That’s the interesting thing. People are like, “I don’t believe this will sell.” Whether you believe it or not, it doesn’t really matter, it’s what the market believes. So let’s go find out what the truth is, and let’s align our belief’s with that. That’s in all aspects of life. So there you go. That’s preacher Brunson preaching on. Hope you guys don’t mind. Anyway, regardless, I hope you got something out of that one and hopefully you guys understand that’s how the world works, how the market works. And when you understand that, and you align your will toward it, that’s how you grow a company. Find a hot market, ask what they want, and give it to them. Alright guys, I’m at the office, I gotta go. See you all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this previously released episode, Russell reminds you to listen to what the market wants instead of telling it what it wants. This episode is a few years old, but the message is still just as important today!

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What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast.

I want to share something today, and some of you might be thinking, Russell this is a marketing podcast why are you talking about God? Because he has to do with everything, it’s really important. And the lesson I learned this weekend has to do with God, but it also then relates back to you guys and your market, so I think it’s really, really important.

So I was in Utah and I had a meeting with someone who is one of the top leaders in my church, the Mormon church. And we believe in our church that there’s a prophet and his 12 apostles, similar to how when Christ was on Earth. And my meeting was with one of the twelve apostles, which was really a huge honor, and scary and exciting and all those things all wrapped into one. And I had a chance to meet with him.

So this whole week prior to leading up to it, I’ve had a lot of thoughts about just life and how things work and then obviously meeting with him and then afterwards, it was a really neat reflection in time. And there was something that came out, I mean, there was a lot of stuff I wish I could share in the context of this podcast, but it’s probably not appropriate or the right spot, so I won’t. But there was one thing that just kept ringing through my head that I wanted to share because I think it’s important and it does relate back to marketing. So there you go. Is it I alright if I relate it back to marketing, if I talk about God for a few minutes? Hopefully that’s okay.

So it’s interesting, if you look at the world, what the world tries to do is that they see, I don’t want to get political because I don’t care about politics at all, so I’m not going to get political. But I see this mostly, it’s amplified in politics, where it’s like these are the agenda items that people either believe this or believe this and they fight back and forth, who’s right and who’s wrong, and all that stuff. And it’s kind of crazy.

And it’s been interesting, in my life, and I’m not perfect in this by any stretch, this is what I aspire to be, when I look at an issue, when I look at something it shouldn’t be what do I believe. What does Russell believe on this topic? It should be, okay I believe in a God, so what does God actually believe on this topic? And then my job as a human here is not to try to convince God that, “No, no, no, you’re wrong.” Because he’s not.

So my goal is to look at what he believes on the topic and then bend my will towards that. Say, okay this is what he believes therefore this is what I believe. That’s how it should be, if you do believe in an all powerful creator who created the heavens and the earth and everything. I think we should bend our will towards him. This is what he thinks, therefore this is what I think, on any topic.

I think that’s important as we’re trying to set up our belief’s. What we’re for and what we’re against. It should be less of, this is my opinion, this is what I think is right, this is what I studied, what I read. It should be like, what does God actually think and then sit back and pray and find out what he believes and then be like cool. I will align my will with yours. I will align with that because that’s what you believe.

So I was thinking about that, again, something I probably wouldn’t normally share inside the podcast, but I started thinking about this from the business standpoint too because there’s always correlations between all things. And it’s funny because a lot of the entrepreneurs that I work with, it’s interesting what they do. They have an idea, “This is a product I want to create. It’s the greatest thing in the world. It’s going to change mankind. I want to charge this price for it, this is how I want to deliver it.” And they have all these things that they want to do because it’s their idea. It’s their baby.

And they go out there and they put it on the market and the market crushes it and it’s like, that idea sucks. Or that price point is not right. Or whatever it is, the market goes and does it’s thing. And the market in this situation is kind of like God. The market doesn’t care who you are, not that God, God does care. But the market doesn’t care who you are. The market doesn’t care how good your ideas are.

The market is what it is. If you put your thing out there and it will tell you, that idea sucked. Or that idea is amazing. Or whatever the thing in between there is. And our job as entrepreneurs, is not to try to convince the market that our idea is the best, our job is to find out what does the market actually want and then align our will with that.

And when you do that, that’s when things explode. That’s why when we test funnels, we’ll test and be like, oh the market said no. And we try again and we test and tweak the messaging and the pricing, we keep moving things around until we figure out what does the market actually want? How much do they want to spend for this? What’s the price point? What do they actually want? Do they even want this product?  A lot of my ideas they didn’t want. As great of an idea as I thought they were, the market did not care about it. And the market is the only thing that actually matters.

So I always tell people, it drives me crazy people in my coaching programs, Facebook groups, and everything will come in and be like, “What’s your opinion on this?” and I’m like, “Dude, don’t take my opinion on it. I don’t even trust my opinion on my own stuff. I let the market decide. I create the thing the best I know how to do, based on what I have seen the market respond to in the past. I make the thing and then I send some traffic to it and I let the market vote. And I don’t let the market vote through quizzes or surveys or things like that. Where they’re like, ‘Oh yeah, I would buy that.’ The only thing that I care about is people that actually pull their wallets out of their pocket and swipe their credit card. That is how the market votes. They don’t vote with their mouth, they vote with their credit card.”

Anyway, so that’s how it works. So for you guys, as entrepreneurs, it’s important for you to not get so caught up on your ideas and what you believe. It is important for you to figure out what the market actually wants. What they actually believe. They believe this is worth this amount of money, they believe that this is what they want to buy. You figure out what the market actually wants, and you do that you become rich. If you fight against that, you struggle. I’ve seen people go years, maybe decades and never have success because they are trying to jam their belief’s down the market’s throat. And the market doesn’t care about you, all the market wants is what it wants. So you gotta figure out what it wants and then you align your will with that. And that’s it.

So as I was thinking about that this weekend with God and our responsibility to not so much try to dictate what we believe and try to shove it down his throat. But to figure out what he believes and align our will him. It’s the same thing with the market. And when you understand that, that’s when business becomes a lot easier.

It comes back to Expert Secrets 101, like page 3 or whatever, find a hot market, ask them what they want, and then give it to them. It does not say, find a hot market, decide what you think would be awesome to create and then jam it down their throats. That is a hard business to run. Okay, it’s the opposite way. Find a hot market, ask what they want, and then give it to them. That’s it and the market will tell you. The market will tell you if you’re right. The market will tell you if you’re wrong. If you’re wrong, don’t be mad about it. Just change your approach, change the pricing, change the hook, change the angle, change the product, change the service. Create what it wants and then everything will take place that you need it to.

Okay, there you go, is that okay that we reel religion into this thing? Because even if you guys don’t believe in God, it doesn’t mean he’s not there. That’s what’s interesting. I have people, friends that are like, “I don’t believe in God, you shouldn’t talk about it.” I’m like, “Whether you believe in him or not, he’s still there.” That’s the interesting thing.

People are like, “I don’t believe this will sell.” Whether you believe it or not, it doesn’t really matter, it’s what the market believes. So let’s go find out what the truth is, and let’s align our belief’s with that. That’s in all aspects of life. So there you go.

That’s preacher Brunson preaching on. Hope you guys don’t mind. Anyway, regardless, I hope you got something out of that one and hopefully you guys understand that’s how the world works, how the market works. And when you understand that, and you align your will toward it, that’s how you grow a company. Find a hot market, ask what they want, and give it to them. Alright guys, I’m at the office, I gotta go. See you all soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 571 no The Umbrella Brand https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-umbrella-brand The thing that encompasses your product, your offer, your funnel, and your value ladder. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. This is a late night edition of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, that's why I'm talking a little bit quieter because I don't want to wake up my wife and kids. But I was thinking about you guys, wanted to jump on and share with you a concept that I call 'the umbrella brand'. I may have mentioned this before in a podcast. And when someone joins my Two Comma Club X Coaching Program, it's one of the first things I tell them to do. Because so many times we get into business and we're thinking about a part of the business. We're thinking about a product, or we start thinking about an offer. Initially, when people get started, before they've been hanging out with me for a while, their first thought is like, "I'm going to create a product," and then eventually they're like, "Wait, I don't want a product, I want an offer." So they create an offer, and then they're like, "Wait, I don't want an offer, I want a funnel with multiple offers in the funnel." And then they're like, "Oh, cool. Actually I don't want just a funnel with offers in it, I want a value ladder." Right? And so the vision starts growing and growing from product, to offer, to funnel, to value ladder. It's interesting because in my business I've done the same thing. I've gone all over the place. I always laugh, because when somebody joined my inner circle back in the day and they'd come in, the very first conversation we'd usually have was like, "Well, how many businesses you have?" And people would be like, "Oh, I've got 12 or eight." And they're always proud of it, and they're like, "I have eight, but four more that I'm building." Like, "Okay, well, the first thing we're going to do to grow your company is you've got to pick which of your eight babies we're going to kill, which we're going to keep?" And they're like, "What?" And I'm like, "You're only allowed to have one." The person that serves more than one master is not going to be successful. And it was always hard them. The people who grew in scale were all ones who started focusing on one business. And so the question though is something that means one funnel, or it means one value ladder. What does that actually mean? And so for me, when I go into a market or when I consult somebody in a market, one of the first things I tell them to do is to create an umbrella brand. It's an umbrella brand that all the other products, and services, and offers, and things can fit underneath. Does that make sense? So if you think about ClickFunnels; ClickFunnels is a software product, but it's an umbrella brand. So underneath ClickFunnels there's a lot of different things, a lot of tools, a lot of stuff. But I want to illustrate this with a different brand of mine that you probably know, that it's probably going to be more clear for most of you guys. A lot of you know I own marketingsecrets.com. This podcast is called the Marketing Secrets Podcast, but right now I've taken most of my intellectual property and I moved it out of my own personal name, I moved it out of ClickFunnels, moved it away from everything, and I set up this umbrella brand called Marketing Secrets. If you look at that, that umbrella brand is the core thing that I do. So it's, I teach people marketing. And so underneath that big umbrella, there's a lot of stuff. There's the Dotcom Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book, the Traffic Secrets book. There's the High Ticket Secrets Training Course, there's the Course Secrets Course, there's... What else do I got? There's all the products, everything I teach. There's this podcast, there's a blog, which I'm not a very good blogger, but there's a blog in there. There's all these things, right? It's cool when you have an umbrella brand, because then all the things in your value ladder fit underneath this thing. And so my education business, the value ladder that's associated with that, it all fits underneath this Marketing Secrets brand. You know, ClickFunnels is different because it's its own brand. And so I'm breaking my own rules, by having two companies. I have my information business company, which is the Marketing Secrets one. Then I have the ClickFunnels software company, but they compliment each other obviously. We're bringing in people through the education company, they're going to software and vice versa, so they do compliment each other. But I just wanted you guys to think through this concept of an umbrella brand. Do you have one? It's cool because right now, there's so many cool new things coming out on the market. For example, Clubhouse came out, and for a long time I was like, "How do I play clubhouse? What do I do? How do I not do this? I've got to figure something out." But if I step back and look my umbrella brand, Marketing Secrets, like, "Oh, I could jump in there and just do a Marketing Secrets Clubhouse room." I jump in there and just say, "Okay, I'm going to share marketing secrets." What does that mean? It means anything. I'm going to share things about marketing that I like, that are exciting. I could bring guest speakers in and like, "Okay, tell me your number one marketing secret. Tell me your number one marketing secret." And it gets really, really fun, right? I can say like in this podcast, every week I'm like, "Hey, what's your marketing secret." What's something I want to talk about, what's something I'm learning. What's something I'm discovering, what's something I remember from the past, I want to share with people. I can just share that. If I have a blog post, I can do blog posts on different marketing secrets. And so this umbrella brand... I don't know, all these things fall off it. Somebody who was going to clubhouse and see, "Oh, there's a Marketing Secrets room. What is this?" They're going to jump in the room, they're going to learn some marketing secrets and they're naturally going to come back and be like, "Okay, Marketing Secrets is this brand that teaches a lot of marketing secrets." But then now it pushes people to a specific offer like, "Oh, I'm going to read a book called Dotcom Secrets or Traffic Secrets or Expert Secrets, or all the things that fit underneath that umbrella brand. This is funny, this is me telling on myself. I've been so good for the last seven years at just focusing on my business, which was ClickFunnels and Marketing Secrets, just focusing on that one baby. But as my team's gotten bigger, we've got 400 plus employees now, part of me is missing the thrill of building offers that aren't necessarily just ClickFunnels offers. And so I've got a little side team where we're building some fun things. But as I'm going into each of these different markets, it's fun because one of the first things I identify is, what's the umbrella brand of this thing? So when I'm thinking about an umbrella brand, I'm thinking about a couple of things, like number one, I should be able to have a blog that fits underneath that brand, there's a podcast that could fit under that brand. I could do a Clubhouse room under that brand, I could do an Instagram channel, I can do all these things, that are not a product, but it's just this brand. A bigger thing, right? And then inside that, underneath this umbrella brand, then I could have products, and then offers, and then funnels, and then value ladders. So that stuff all fits underneath it. But the overarching brand I can use to bring noise to the topic, to the concept, to the thing. Which creates noise, which sucks people in, and then from there, then I can direct them into specific products, and offers, and funnels, that'll solve a problem, fix a result, and things like that. Does that make sense? So, for example, right now we're working on a really cool software product. It's personality based, like those personality tests and things like that. It's not done yet, but it's going to be so cool when it is. And so for me, I say, "Okay, what's the umbrella brand." So I tried to find a really cool domain name, eventually the domain name I got is understand.me. If you go there, it's dead right now, don't go there. The umbrella brand has not been built other than I got a logo, and a couple of things. We did do Summit, and we started playing there a little bit, but there's a lot of work to do. So don't go there and model it yet, later this year you'll be able to. But that becomes this big brand, understanding me. I want to understand myself, I want to understand you, I want to understand people. So it becomes this umbrella brand. Inside of there, now I can do all these things, I can have a blog that's talking about personality tests and understanding. I can have a podcast, I can do a Clubhouse room about personality. There's so many cool things I can do that all tie to this brand. And then inside the brand, eventually, it'll be like, "Oh, hey, if you're listening to this podcast, by the way, guys, cool software, go check it out here." Which I did with click funnels, right? "Oh, by the way, there's this really cool book that's going to teach you specifically, all these bigger, higher level topics, these secrets, these concepts, these, whatever we're talking about. There's a book here that's going to give you very specific... my favorite ones, the ones that I like the most, or whatever. Or the stuff that's the best, just like I did inside Marketing Secrets. Like, "Oh, go buy Dotcom Secrets, buy Expert Secrets, buy Traffic Secrets. So I never really sell a product called Marketing Secrets, because it's not a product, it's a brand. It's an umbrella brand that encompasses the products, the offers, the value ladders, et cetera. So anyway, I don't know. It's late. I may be rambling and this may not make much sense, but anyway, that's just what to think about. I've been buying a lot of big domain names recently, with the idea of, this is going to be an umbrella brand someday for a topic and a concept I'm excited for. We have some cool domains, really excited for it. One of them, for example, if you've read the book Atlas Shrugged, then you know who John Galt is, right? Obviously I've been fascinated with that book for the last year or so of my life. And so when I went to buy it, I bought John Galt Society. So John Galt Society becomes this big umbrella brand. And it could be a blog, it could be a podcast, it could be a news... It could be all these things. It could be an Instagram channel, could be this thing where it's like, "Hey, this is the John Galt Society. We're talking about John Galt and his principles, and all these things." And then under that umbrella brand, then I could sell whatever. I could write books, I could do t-shirts, I could do courses, I could do other things. But this umbrella brand gives ability to bring people in. Another one, I bought haveitall.com. That could be such a cool umbrella brand. It's not a product, it's not an offer, but man, it could be such a cool brand, a big umbrella brand, and then underneath there there's all sorts of things you could do. Bodyevolution.com is a domain name I own, that could be a great umbrella brand. And then underneath there there's weight loss, there's fitness there's... anyway, I digress. I'm just excited about all the cool domains that I'm buying lately. I probably should stop, but it's just so exciting. I don't know if or when any of these ideas will come to fruition, I'm still focusing on my main baby, which is ClickFunnels and the marketing, or the content side of my business, which is Marketing Secrets. That's still the focal point and always will be, but I'm just having fun playing with these other ideas, to be able to test out concepts and try ideas, and then share them back with you guys. So anyway, that's all I got. I'm going to go crash. It's late, I am tired. I appreciate you guys, thanks for listening. Hopefully this wasn't incoherent rambling, I hopefully gave you an idea, to think about your business. Is your business just a product? If so, it needs to evolve, from a product to an offer, from an offer to a funnel. Which, a funnel is basically multiple offers. Then from a funnel to a value ladder, and then what's the big brand above that, that holds all those things underneath it. The bigger brand that's more of a concept, not a product, right? It's more of a... I don't know the right word, but it's the bigger thing where, when you create it and you put it out there, underneath there, all the other stuff falls. All right, hope that helps. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:00:00 -0000 The Umbrella Brand full 382 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The thing that encompasses your product, your offer, your funnel, and your value ladder. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. This is a late... The thing that encompasses your product, your offer, your funnel, and your value ladder. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. This is a late night edition of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, that's why I'm talking a little bit quieter because I don't want to wake up my wife and kids. But I was thinking about you guys, wanted to jump on and share with you a concept that I call 'the umbrella brand'. I may have mentioned this before in a podcast. And when someone joins my Two Comma Club X Coaching Program, it's one of the first things I tell them to do. Because so many times we get into business and we're thinking about a part of the business. We're thinking about a product, or we start thinking about an offer. Initially, when people get started, before they've been hanging out with me for a while, their first thought is like, "I'm going to create a product," and then eventually they're like, "Wait, I don't want a product, I want an offer." So they create an offer, and then they're like, "Wait, I don't want an offer, I want a funnel with multiple offers in the funnel." And then they're like, "Oh, cool. Actually I don't want just a funnel with offers in it, I want a value ladder." Right? And so the vision starts growing and growing from product, to offer, to funnel, to value ladder. It's interesting because in my business I've done the same thing. I've gone all over the place. I always laugh, because when somebody joined my inner circle back in the day and they'd come in, the very first conversation we'd usually have was like, "Well, how many businesses you have?" And people would be like, "Oh, I've got 12 or eight." And they're always proud of it, and they're like, "I have eight, but four more that I'm building." Like, "Okay, well, the first thing we're going to do to grow your company is you've got to pick which of your eight babies we're going to kill, which we're going to keep?" And they're like, "What?" And I'm like, "You're only allowed to have one." The person that serves more than one master is not going to be successful. And it was always hard them. The people who grew in scale were all ones who started focusing on one business. And so the question though is something that means one funnel, or it means one value ladder. What does that actually mean? And so for me, when I go into a market or when I consult somebody in a market, one of the first things I tell them to do is to create an umbrella brand. It's an umbrella brand that all the other products, and services, and offers, and things can fit underneath. Does that make sense? So if you think about ClickFunnels; ClickFunnels is a software product, but it's an umbrella brand. So underneath ClickFunnels there's a lot of different things, a lot of tools, a lot of stuff. But I want to illustrate this with a different brand of mine that you probably know, that it's probably going to be more clear for most of you guys. A lot of you know I own marketingsecrets.com. This podcast is called the Marketing Secrets Podcast, but right now I've taken most of my intellectual property and I moved it out of my own personal name, I moved it out of ClickFunnels, moved it away from everything, and I set up this umbrella brand called Marketing Secrets. If you look at that, that umbrella brand is the core thing that I do. So it's, I teach people marketing. And so underneath that big umbrella, there's a lot of stuff. There's the Dotcom Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book, the Traffic Secrets book. There's the High Ticket Secrets Training Course, there's the Course Secrets Course, there's... What else do I got? There's all the products, everything I teach. There's this podcast, there's a blog, which I'm not a very good blogger, but there's a blog in there. There's all these things, right? It's cool when you have an umbrella brand, because then all the things in your value ladder fit underneath this thing. And so my education business, the value ladder that's associated with that, it all fits underneath this Marketing Secrets brand. You know, ClickFunnels is different because it's its own brand. And so I'm breaking my own rules, by having two companies. I have my information business company, which is the Marketing Secrets one. Then I have the ClickFunnels software company, but they compliment each other obviously. We're bringing in people through the education company, they're going to software and vice versa, so they do compliment each other. But I just wanted you guys to think through this concept of an umbrella brand. Do you have one? It's cool because right now, there's so many cool new things coming out on the market. For example, Clubhouse came out, and for a long time I was like, "How do I play clubhouse? What do I do? How do I not do this? I've got to figure something out." But if I step back and look my umbrella brand, Marketing Secrets, like, "Oh, I could jump in there and just do a Marketing Secrets Clubhouse room." I jump in there and just say, "Okay, I'm going to share marketing secrets." What does that mean? It means anything. I'm going to share things about marketing that I like, that are exciting. I could bring guest speakers in and like, "Okay, tell me your number one marketing secret. Tell me your number one marketing secret." And it gets really, really fun, right? I can say like in this podcast, every week I'm like, "Hey, what's your marketing secret." What's something I want to talk about, what's something I'm learning. What's something I'm discovering, what's something I remember from the past, I want to share with people. I can just share that. If I have a blog post, I can do blog posts on different marketing secrets. And so this umbrella brand... I don't know, all these things fall off it. Somebody who was going to clubhouse and see, "Oh, there's a Marketing Secrets room. What is this?" They're going to jump in the room, they're going to learn some marketing secrets and they're naturally going to come back and be like, "Okay, Marketing Secrets is this brand that teaches a lot of marketing secrets." But then now it pushes people to a specific offer like, "Oh, I'm going to read a book called Dotcom Secrets or Traffic Secrets or Expert Secrets, or all the things that fit underneath that umbrella brand. This is funny, this is me telling on myself. I've been so good for the last seven years at just focusing on my business, which was ClickFunnels and Marketing Secrets, just focusing on that one baby. But as my team's gotten bigger, we've got 400 plus employees now, part of me is missing the thrill of building offers that aren't necessarily just ClickFunnels offers. And so I've got a little side team where we're building some fun things. But as I'm going into each of these different markets, it's fun because one of the first things I identify is, what's the umbrella brand of this thing? So when I'm thinking about an umbrella brand, I'm thinking about a couple of things, like number one, I should be able to have a blog that fits underneath that brand, there's a podcast that could fit under that brand. I could do a Clubhouse room under that brand, I could do an Instagram channel, I can do all these things, that are not a product, but it's just this brand. A bigger thing, right? And then inside that, underneath this umbrella brand, then I could have products, and then offers, and then funnels, and then value ladders. So that stuff all fits underneath it. But the overarching brand I can use to bring noise to the topic, to the concept, to the thing. Which creates noise, which sucks people in, and then from there, then I can direct them into specific products, and offers, and funnels, that'll solve a problem, fix a result, and things like that. Does that make sense? So, for example, right now we're working on a really cool software product. It's personality based, like those personality tests and things like that. It's not done yet, but it's going to be so cool when it is. And so for me, I say, "Okay, what's the umbrella brand." So I tried to find a really cool domain name, eventually the domain name I got is understand.me. If you go there, it's dead right now, don't go there. The umbrella brand has not been built other than I got a logo, and a couple of things. We did do Summit, and we started playing there a little bit, but there's a lot of work to do. So don't go there and model it yet, later this year you'll be able to. But that becomes this big brand, understanding me. I want to understand myself, I want to understand you, I want to understand people. So it becomes this umbrella brand. Inside of there, now I can do all these things, I can have a blog that's talking about personality tests and understanding. I can have a podcast, I can do a Clubhouse room about personality. There's so many cool things I can do that all tie to this brand. And then inside the brand, eventually, it'll be like, "Oh, hey, if you're listening to this podcast, by the way, guys, cool software, go check it out here." Which I did with click funnels, right? "Oh, by the way, there's this really cool book that's going to teach you specifically, all these bigger, higher level topics, these secrets, these concepts, these, whatever we're talking about. There's a book here that's going to give you very specific... my favorite ones, the ones that I like the most, or whatever. Or the stuff that's the best, just like I did inside Marketing Secrets. Like, "Oh, go buy Dotcom Secrets, buy Expert Secrets, buy Traffic Secrets. So I never really sell a product called Marketing Secrets, because it's not a product, it's a brand. It's an umbrella brand that encompasses the products, the offers, the value ladders, et cetera. So anyway, I don't know. It's late. I may be rambling and this may not make much sense, but anyway, that's just what to think about. I've been buying a lot of big domain names recently, with the idea of, this is going to be an umbrella brand someday for a topic and a concept I'm excited for. We have some cool domains, really excited for it. One of them, for example, if you've read the book Atlas Shrugged, then you know who John Galt is, right? Obviously I've been fascinated with that book for the last year or so of my life. And so when I went to buy it, I bought John Galt Society. So John Galt Society becomes this big umbrella brand. And it could be a blog, it could be a podcast, it could be a news... It could be all these things. It could be an Instagram channel, could be this thing where it's like, "Hey, this is the John Galt Society. We're talking about John Galt and his principles, and all these things." And then under that umbrella brand, then I could sell whatever. I could write books, I could do t-shirts, I could do courses, I could do other things. But this umbrella brand gives ability to bring people in. Another one, I bought haveitall.com. That could be such a cool umbrella brand. It's not a product, it's not an offer, but man, it could be such a cool brand, a big umbrella brand, and then underneath there there's all sorts of things you could do. Bodyevolution.com is a domain name I own, that could be a great umbrella brand. And then underneath there there's weight loss, there's fitness there's... anyway, I digress. I'm just excited about all the cool domains that I'm buying lately. I probably should stop, but it's just so exciting. I don't know if or when any of these ideas will come to fruition, I'm still focusing on my main baby, which is ClickFunnels and the marketing, or the content side of my business, which is Marketing Secrets. That's still the focal point and always will be, but I'm just having fun playing with these other ideas, to be able to test out concepts and try ideas, and then share them back with you guys. So anyway, that's all I got. I'm going to go crash. It's late, I am tired. I appreciate you guys, thanks for listening. Hopefully this wasn't incoherent rambling, I hopefully gave you an idea, to think about your business. Is your business just a product? If so, it needs to evolve, from a product to an offer, from an offer to a funnel. Which, a funnel is basically multiple offers. Then from a funnel to a value ladder, and then what's the big brand above that, that holds all those things underneath it. The bigger brand that's more of a concept, not a product, right? It's more of a... I don't know the right word, but it's the bigger thing where, when you create it and you put it out there, underneath there, all the other stuff falls. All right, hope that helps. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The thing that encompasses your product, your offer, your funnel, and your value ladder.

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What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. This is a late night edition of the Marketing Secrets Podcast, that's why I'm talking a little bit quieter because I don't want to wake up my wife and kids. But I was thinking about you guys, wanted to jump on and share with you a concept that I call 'the umbrella brand'. I may have mentioned this before in a podcast. And when someone joins my Two Comma Club X Coaching Program, it's one of the first things I tell them to do. Because so many times we get into business and we're thinking about a part of the business. We're thinking about a product, or we start thinking about an offer.

Initially, when people get started, before they've been hanging out with me for a while, their first thought is like, "I'm going to create a product," and then eventually they're like, "Wait, I don't want a product, I want an offer." So they create an offer, and then they're like, "Wait, I don't want an offer, I want a funnel with multiple offers in the funnel." And then they're like, "Oh, cool. Actually I don't want just a funnel with offers in it, I want a value ladder." Right? And so the vision starts growing and growing from product, to offer, to funnel, to value ladder. It's interesting because in my business I've done the same thing. I've gone all over the place.

I always laugh, because when somebody joined my inner circle back in the day and they'd come in, the very first conversation we'd usually have was like, "Well, how many businesses you have?" And people would be like, "Oh, I've got 12 or eight." And they're always proud of it, and they're like, "I have eight, but four more that I'm building." Like, "Okay, well, the first thing we're going to do to grow your company is you've got to pick which of your eight babies we're going to kill, which we're going to keep?" And they're like, "What?" And I'm like, "You're only allowed to have one." The person that serves more than one master is not going to be successful. And it was always hard them. The people who grew in scale were all ones who started focusing on one business. And so the question though is something that means one funnel, or it means one value ladder.

What does that actually mean? And so for me, when I go into a market or when I consult somebody in a market, one of the first things I tell them to do is to create an umbrella brand. It's an umbrella brand that all the other products, and services, and offers, and things can fit underneath. Does that make sense? So if you think about ClickFunnels; ClickFunnels is a software product, but it's an umbrella brand. So underneath ClickFunnels there's a lot of different things, a lot of tools, a lot of stuff. But I want to illustrate this with a different brand of mine that you probably know, that it's probably going to be more clear for most of you guys.

A lot of you know I own marketingsecrets.com. This podcast is called the Marketing Secrets Podcast, but right now I've taken most of my intellectual property and I moved it out of my own personal name, I moved it out of ClickFunnels, moved it away from everything, and I set up this umbrella brand called Marketing Secrets. If you look at that, that umbrella brand is the core thing that I do. So it's, I teach people marketing. And so underneath that big umbrella, there's a lot of stuff.

There's the Dotcom Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book, the Traffic Secrets book. There's the High Ticket Secrets Training Course, there's the Course Secrets Course, there's... What else do I got? There's all the products, everything I teach. There's this podcast, there's a blog, which I'm not a very good blogger, but there's a blog in there. There's all these things, right? It's cool when you have an umbrella brand, because then all the things in your value ladder fit underneath this thing. And so my education business, the value ladder that's associated with that, it all fits underneath this Marketing Secrets brand. You know, ClickFunnels is different because it's its own brand. And so I'm breaking my own rules, by having two companies. I have my information business company, which is the Marketing Secrets one. Then I have the ClickFunnels software company, but they compliment each other obviously. We're bringing in people through the education company, they're going to software and vice versa, so they do compliment each other.

But I just wanted you guys to think through this concept of an umbrella brand. Do you have one? It's cool because right now, there's so many cool new things coming out on the market. For example, Clubhouse came out, and for a long time I was like, "How do I play clubhouse? What do I do? How do I not do this? I've got to figure something out."

But if I step back and look my umbrella brand, Marketing Secrets, like, "Oh, I could jump in there and just do a Marketing Secrets Clubhouse room." I jump in there and just say, "Okay, I'm going to share marketing secrets." What does that mean? It means anything. I'm going to share things about marketing that I like, that are exciting. I could bring guest speakers in and like, "Okay, tell me your number one marketing secret. Tell me your number one marketing secret." And it gets really, really fun, right? I can say like in this podcast, every week I'm like, "Hey, what's your marketing secret." What's something I want to talk about, what's something I'm learning. What's something I'm discovering, what's something I remember from the past, I want to share with people. I can just share that. If I have a blog post, I can do blog posts on different marketing secrets.

And so this umbrella brand... I don't know, all these things fall off it. Somebody who was going to clubhouse and see, "Oh, there's a Marketing Secrets room. What is this?" They're going to jump in the room, they're going to learn some marketing secrets and they're naturally going to come back and be like, "Okay, Marketing Secrets is this brand that teaches a lot of marketing secrets." But then now it pushes people to a specific offer like, "Oh, I'm going to read a book called Dotcom Secrets or Traffic Secrets or Expert Secrets, or all the things that fit underneath that umbrella brand.

This is funny, this is me telling on myself. I've been so good for the last seven years at just focusing on my business, which was ClickFunnels and Marketing Secrets, just focusing on that one baby. But as my team's gotten bigger, we've got 400 plus employees now, part of me is missing the thrill of building offers that aren't necessarily just ClickFunnels offers. And so I've got a little side team where we're building some fun things. But as I'm going into each of these different markets, it's fun because one of the first things I identify is, what's the umbrella brand of this thing?

So when I'm thinking about an umbrella brand, I'm thinking about a couple of things, like number one, I should be able to have a blog that fits underneath that brand, there's a podcast that could fit under that brand. I could do a Clubhouse room under that brand, I could do an Instagram channel, I can do all these things, that are not a product, but it's just this brand. A bigger thing, right? And then inside that, underneath this umbrella brand, then I could have products, and then offers, and then funnels, and then value ladders. So that stuff all fits underneath it.

But the overarching brand I can use to bring noise to the topic, to the concept, to the thing. Which creates noise, which sucks people in, and then from there, then I can direct them into specific products, and offers, and funnels, that'll solve a problem, fix a result, and things like that. Does that make sense? So, for example, right now we're working on a really cool software product. It's personality based, like those personality tests and things like that. It's not done yet, but it's going to be so cool when it is. And so for me, I say, "Okay, what's the umbrella brand." So I tried to find a really cool domain name, eventually the domain name I got is understand.me. If you go there, it's dead right now, don't go there. The umbrella brand has not been built other than I got a logo, and a couple of things. We did do Summit, and we started playing there a little bit, but there's a lot of work to do. So don't go there and model it yet, later this year you'll be able to.

But that becomes this big brand, understanding me. I want to understand myself, I want to understand you, I want to understand people. So it becomes this umbrella brand. Inside of there, now I can do all these things, I can have a blog that's talking about personality tests and understanding. I can have a podcast, I can do a Clubhouse room about personality. There's so many cool things I can do that all tie to this brand.

And then inside the brand, eventually, it'll be like, "Oh, hey, if you're listening to this podcast, by the way, guys, cool software, go check it out here." Which I did with click funnels, right? "Oh, by the way, there's this really cool book that's going to teach you specifically, all these bigger, higher level topics, these secrets, these concepts, these, whatever we're talking about. There's a book here that's going to give you very specific... my favorite ones, the ones that I like the most, or whatever. Or the stuff that's the best, just like I did inside Marketing Secrets. Like, "Oh, go buy Dotcom Secrets, buy Expert Secrets, buy Traffic Secrets. So I never really sell a product called Marketing Secrets, because it's not a product, it's a brand. It's an umbrella brand that encompasses the products, the offers, the value ladders, et cetera. So anyway, I don't know. It's late. I may be rambling and this may not make much sense, but anyway, that's just what to think about.

I've been buying a lot of big domain names recently, with the idea of, this is going to be an umbrella brand someday for a topic and a concept I'm excited for. We have some cool domains, really excited for it. One of them, for example, if you've read the book Atlas Shrugged, then you know who John Galt is, right? Obviously I've been fascinated with that book for the last year or so of my life. And so when I went to buy it, I bought John Galt Society. So John Galt Society becomes this big umbrella brand. And it could be a blog, it could be a podcast, it could be a news... It could be all these things. It could be an Instagram channel, could be this thing where it's like, "Hey, this is the John Galt Society. We're talking about John Galt and his principles, and all these things." And then under that umbrella brand, then I could sell whatever. I could write books, I could do t-shirts, I could do courses, I could do other things. But this umbrella brand gives ability to bring people in.

Another one, I bought haveitall.com. That could be such a cool umbrella brand. It's not a product, it's not an offer, but man, it could be such a cool brand, a big umbrella brand, and then underneath there there's all sorts of things you could do. Bodyevolution.com is a domain name I own, that could be a great umbrella brand. And then underneath there there's weight loss, there's fitness there's... anyway, I digress. I'm just excited about all the cool domains that I'm buying lately. I probably should stop, but it's just so exciting. I don't know if or when any of these ideas will come to fruition, I'm still focusing on my main baby, which is ClickFunnels and the marketing, or the content side of my business, which is Marketing Secrets. That's still the focal point and always will be, but I'm just having fun playing with these other ideas, to be able to test out concepts and try ideas, and then share them back with you guys.

So anyway, that's all I got. I'm going to go crash. It's late, I am tired. I appreciate you guys, thanks for listening. Hopefully this wasn't incoherent rambling, I hopefully gave you an idea, to think about your business. Is your business just a product? If so, it needs to evolve, from a product to an offer, from an offer to a funnel. Which, a funnel is basically multiple offers. Then from a funnel to a value ladder, and then what's the big brand above that, that holds all those things underneath it. The bigger brand that's more of a concept, not a product, right? It's more of a... I don't know the right word, but it's the bigger thing where, when you create it and you put it out there, underneath there, all the other stuff falls. All right, hope that helps. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and I'll talk to you soon.

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]]> 825 no How to Increase the Perceived Value of the Thing You Sell https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-increase-the-perceived-value-of-the-thing-you-sell This weekend, I had the chance to witness one of the best sales presentations of my life. Let me show you how it worked, and how you can model it for what you do. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing secrets podcast. Today, I want to talk about the secret to increasing the perceived value of whatever it is you're selling. And I'm going to tell you a story about how somebody did this to me this weekend and it was amazing. So, here we go. All right, so I'm going to give you some backstory. Some of you guys know that I'm mildly obsessed with books. Books are the coolest, seriously, come on now. And so my office I'm in now, is swelling with books. We have big bookshelves but there's no room left at all. And so, I decided to start a project. We're going to build a library, a huge library in the lot next to our office, so I can have more books. So I think my office right now has, I think we did the math, has like a little under 10,000 books are in there right now. And the new office will hold, or the new library, will hold up like 60,000 books, which is crazy. And I'm going to have different sections. Like one section that's going to be just about business. One on personal development, one on health, one on religion, just the different topics that I'm passionate about, right? And so, and in there I'll have all the books that matter on all those topics and it's going to be amazing. But then on top of that, I'm kind of a collector of old books, because old books are the coolest thing ever. And so, in section, like for the religion section for example, it'd be a big like white glass bulletproof case that has these old religious books in there. And then same thing with personal development. Like, I'm looking at this, The Laws of Success that Napoleon Hill wrote way back in the day, that's so cool. Anyway, that'd be out on display under these bulletproof glass and a bunch of the cool things. So anyway, there's kind of the frame where I'm at, right? And so anyway, there's this guy who messaged me this week and was like, "Hey, I'm one of the top..." Or, not the one of, "I'm the top rare Mormon book collectors in the world." And he's like, "I'm in Utah right now and I can come and show you some of things I have. And he started telling me all the stuff he has, I'm like, "Heck yeah dude, if you want to drive up here, I'll look at it." Not thinking that I'm going to purchase anything. So anyway, so the guy that drives up and he has these cases and brings them out and he's got all these old insanely cool, amazing books, right? Now, again, I can't tell you all the details because... Anyway, so some things don't make any logical sense, but I'll give you the basic gist. So, so you guys know, I actually bought a first edition book of Mormon back in the day, which is one of my prize possessions. And he had like five first additions. And my mine's like a good one, these are like insane. The highest quality in the world, right? And so when he brought him, I'm like, "I'm going to look at these things but I already have one, I don't need another one. There's no way I'm going to do it." Right? And he tells us ahead of time, he said, "I'm not the best sales person in the world, but as I show you these books, I'm just going to tell you the story behind each of them." And I'm like, "Okay." And so, one at a time, he pulls out the book and you see it. And I was like, "Oh cool, yeah, I have one like that." And then he starts telling you the story behind it. Like, "Let me tell you how I found this. This is where I got it. This is what it looks like. This is why it's so cool. This is..." Like, "Look at this, look at the inscription, look at the thing here, look at the thing..." And started showing you all the pieces about it. Where within like 10 minutes I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I want that so bad." And they shows the first book and he's like, "Here's the second book." And pulls it out and tells the story behind that and how he found it, and why it's so cool and the intricacies and why this one's different, and why it's so important, and why very few people have it and the scarcity of it. Right? The second book is the second edition printing of The Book of Mormon, and it was so cool. And he's like, "Just so you know, there's only 25 of these on planet earth right now that we know of. And this one is the best quality one." And shows that and I'm like, "That's so cool." But still in my head, I'm like, "I'm not here to buy anything." And then he shows the third one and the fourth one and the fifth one. Then he shows this other book and then just going through book after book, all these things. And as he did it, he didn't just like, "Oh, here's the book." Like, show it to me. He told me the story about each one. It was interesting, as he told the story, the story, as you guys know, if you've been following me for any amount of time, the story increases the perceived value of the thing. And so by hearing the story, he went from like, "Oh yeah, that's a book." Like, "There's no book." To like, "Ooh, there's an old book that it's pretty cool." To like, "Oh my gosh, I really want this old book." And by then it's like, "I have to have this at all costs." Like, "This needs to be in my library, otherwise, what's the point of building a library? I should just burn it to the ground, right?" And so, it was just fascinating. And this was one of my interesting takeaways. Because I asked this guy, he finds these things, collects them, and then sells them. And I said, "Is this hard for you to sell these after you find them and you know the stories?" And he told me something interesting. He said, "I've regretted every book I've sold." He's like, "But this is what I do. So I've done it for the last 40 years." And it was interesting because I was noticing myself, as he told the stories, how engrossed I got into the story of each book and how important it became to me. And I remember feeling this other thing where I was like, "If I don't buy this..." How much regret I was going to have, because I'm going to miss out on the story and the thing and all the stuff." So by him telling his story, the same regret that he was having by selling this book, was the same regret I was going to have if I didn't have the book, which was super fascinating, don't you think? And anyway, Oh, and then there's so many sales lessons I could tell you. It's from this guy, he's like, "I'm a horrible salesperson." But then also talking about status, right? As he's showing me these books and he's like, "There's a lot of people have three, but there's no one that has all five of these." He's like, "Maybe one or two people on the planet." He's like, "Instantly you'd be one of the top five rare, Mormon book collectors on the planet, if you had this set." And then this, and then... It was crazy. And I come into this thing, not planning on buying anything just wanting to see what he has to two hours, three hours later, writing one of the biggest checks in my life. But I share it to you because I want you to understand, that is the power of story, right? I always tell you guys, if you're teaching a concept, you have to tell the story about how you learned or you earned it. If you're selling a product or service or a thing, you have to tell the story about how it was created. The story is the thing that increases the perceived value. I literally went from like, "Here's an old book." Like, "Oh, sweet." To like, "Let me tell the story of the book." And then he got deeper in the story and the meaning and all these kinds of things got to the point where like, "Wow, that's really cool." To like, "Ooh, I really want that." To like, "If I don't have that, I'm going to lose something." The fear of missing out, of not having that, became so big and so large that I was willing to do, as a buyer, do something completely irrational, to make sure that we had it, right? Anyway, it's just fascinating. It was such a cool case study to me. To see these things being used on me. In fact, I told him at the end, I was like, "Dude, you told me two hours ago that you're not that good at selling." And I'm like, "All selling is, is telling a story in a way that increases the perceived value of the thing that you're trying to sell." I said, "Based on that definition of selling, you're the greatest salespeople I've ever seen." Right? And so, I want you guys to understand that. A lot of times we think, "Oh, we need to do the newest sales trick. I need this technique or I need da, da, da, da." All these kind of things. It's like, "No, no, no." the best sales people, the thing that they do is, they tell a story that increases the perceived value of the thing that they're trying to get you to desire. And if you desire it, then you're going to want it, right? To the point where if you don't have it, then you're going to feel the same regret that that person has giving it away. Like, "If I don't have this, ugh, like what would like what's to happen tomorrow or the next day? How are we going to feel?" All the other emotions start flooding in as well, right? And so, that was the fascinating thing. So anyway, I want to share with you guys for so many reasons. Number one, I'm excited. I got sold, I love getting sold. It's the greatest thing in the world. Number two, just the lesson. And that is the lesson, how do you tell your story in a way that increases the perceived value of the thing you're selling? That's the big secret. That's the big, ah-ha. It's not becoming a slick at selling or figuring out the masterful funnel or any of those things, right? It's getting good at telling the story about the thing that you're selling in a way that increases the perceived value, so that it goes from an, "Oh, it's cool." To a want, to a desire to, "If I don't have this thing, I'm going to regret it for the rest of my life." And that's the magic. So anyway, think of that for your product. Think about next time you're on a Facebook live or doing a podcast or you're trying to sell something or whatever it is. Or you're face-to-face with somebody or whatever, right? What's the story? How did you learn it? How did you earn it? How did you create it? How did you find it? What was the thing? Why is it so important? Why is it valuable? How's that person's status going to be increased if they have it, how's the status going to decrease if they don't have it? How are they going to regret this in the future if they don't have it? Those are all these little things they're tied to the story that make it to the point where it's like, "Oh, I have to have this thing." The better you get at that, the more money you're going to make. Anyway, that's all I got you guys, I hope you enjoyed it. Sunday when this library is done, this will become part of the pilgrimage to internet marketing Mecca. You guys will have to come to Boise, Idaho, and come look at the library and walk through it and see it. It's going to be something magical. There's more things planned inside the library/event center/stuff. But anyway, someday hopefully you have a chance to come see it. I'm sure that as we start building it, you guys will see the footage and the videos and all this stuff. Oh, there's so many cool things that are happening in it. In fact, right now, today, they're out there literally surveying the land, which is exciting. Anyway. So one of those things, one of those dreams that become a reality and I'm really excited for it. My plan is to build out a whole research center and start hiring people to can do research and finding things and searching. And I want to be able to take... I feel like one of my roles here is to sift through tons and tons of information and to find the best things and bring it back to you, right? Like if you look at my books, that's like me going through 10,000 books and 100,000 split tests and things, trying things. And then my books are like, "Here's what I found. Here's what actually works." Right? And I want to do that at a bigger scale, and I want to be able to do that on all the topics I'm excited about in life. And building that research seems to go through and plow through tens of thousands of books, find out the core pieces, bring them back to us so we can test them, we can try them. And then from there be able to give you guys products and courses and books and training or whatever the thing is to help get you guys results in your life. And so, that's kind of next phase in my life that I'm really excited for is that, is building the research center, building the library and then building the team to create those things. So anyway, if any of you guys are interested, if you're a researcher, if you're a writer, if you're obsessed with the things I'm obsessed with, and I don't know, maybe it would be a good fit. Maybe someday I'll put out a job application, see if anyone would love to spend their life living in Russell's library, just reading books and researching and pulling out the gems, so that we can turn it into something that'll change people's lives. Any who, that's all I got for today. I appreciate you guys. Remember, selling is all about learning how to tell your story in a way to increase the perceived value of the thing that you're trying to sell. If you can master that, you'll never have to work another day in your life. All right guys, appreciate you all. We'll talk soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Jan 2021 09:00:00 -0000 How to Increase the Perceived Value of the Thing You Sell full 381 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This weekend, I had the chance to witness one of the best sales presentations of my life. Let me show you how it worked, and how you can model it for what you do. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ... This weekend, I had the chance to witness one of the best sales presentations of my life. Let me show you how it worked, and how you can model it for what you do. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing secrets podcast. Today, I want to talk about the secret to increasing the perceived value of whatever it is you're selling. And I'm going to tell you a story about how somebody did this to me this weekend and it was amazing. So, here we go. All right, so I'm going to give you some backstory. Some of you guys know that I'm mildly obsessed with books. Books are the coolest, seriously, come on now. And so my office I'm in now, is swelling with books. We have big bookshelves but there's no room left at all. And so, I decided to start a project. We're going to build a library, a huge library in the lot next to our office, so I can have more books. So I think my office right now has, I think we did the math, has like a little under 10,000 books are in there right now. And the new office will hold, or the new library, will hold up like 60,000 books, which is crazy. And I'm going to have different sections. Like one section that's going to be just about business. One on personal development, one on health, one on religion, just the different topics that I'm passionate about, right? And so, and in there I'll have all the books that matter on all those topics and it's going to be amazing. But then on top of that, I'm kind of a collector of old books, because old books are the coolest thing ever. And so, in section, like for the religion section for example, it'd be a big like white glass bulletproof case that has these old religious books in there. And then same thing with personal development. Like, I'm looking at this, The Laws of Success that Napoleon Hill wrote way back in the day, that's so cool. Anyway, that'd be out on display under these bulletproof glass and a bunch of the cool things. So anyway, there's kind of the frame where I'm at, right? And so anyway, there's this guy who messaged me this week and was like, "Hey, I'm one of the top..." Or, not the one of, "I'm the top rare Mormon book collectors in the world." And he's like, "I'm in Utah right now and I can come and show you some of things I have. And he started telling me all the stuff he has, I'm like, "Heck yeah dude, if you want to drive up here, I'll look at it." Not thinking that I'm going to purchase anything. So anyway, so the guy that drives up and he has these cases and brings them out and he's got all these old insanely cool, amazing books, right? Now, again, I can't tell you all the details because... Anyway, so some things don't make any logical sense, but I'll give you the basic gist. So, so you guys know, I actually bought a first edition book of Mormon back in the day, which is one of my prize possessions. And he had like five first additions. And my mine's like a good one, these are like insane. The highest quality in the world, right? And so when he brought him, I'm like, "I'm going to look at these things but I already have one, I don't need another one. There's no way I'm going to do it." Right? And he tells us ahead of time, he said, "I'm not the best sales person in the world, but as I show you these books, I'm just going to tell you the story behind each of them." And I'm like, "Okay." And so, one at a time, he pulls out the book and you see it. And I was like, "Oh cool, yeah, I have one like that." And then he starts telling you the story behind it. Like, "Let me tell you how I found this. This is where I got it. This is what it looks like. This is why it's so cool. This is..." Like, "Look at this, look at the inscription, look at the thing here, look at the thing..." And started showing you all the pieces about it. Where within like 10 minutes I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I want that so bad." And they shows the first book and he's like, "Here's the second book." And pulls it out and tells the story behind that and how he found it, and why it's so cool and the intricacies and why this one's different, and why it's so important, and why very few people have it and the scarcity of it. Right? The second book is the second edition printing of The Book of Mormon, and it was so cool. And he's like, "Just so you know, there's only 25 of these on planet earth right now that we know of. And this one is the best quality one." And shows that and I'm like, "That's so cool." But still in my head, I'm like, "I'm not here to buy anything." And then he shows the third one and the fourth one and the fifth one. Then he shows this other book and then just going through book after book, all these things. And as he did it, he didn't just like, "Oh, here's the book." Like, show it to me. He told me the story about each one. It was interesting, as he told the story, the story, as you guys know, if you've been following me for any amount of time, the story increases the perceived value of the thing. And so by hearing the story, he went from like, "Oh yeah, that's a book." Like, "There's no book." To like, "Ooh, there's an old book that it's pretty cool." To like, "Oh my gosh, I really want this old book." And by then it's like, "I have to have this at all costs." Like, "This needs to be in my library, otherwise, what's the point of building a library? I should just burn it to the ground, right?" And so, it was just fascinating. And this was one of my interesting takeaways. Because I asked this guy, he finds these things, collects them, and then sells them. And I said, "Is this hard for you to sell these after you find them and you know the stories?" And he told me something interesting. He said, "I've regretted every book I've sold." He's like, "But this is what I do. So I've done it for the last 40 years." And it was interesting because I was noticing myself, as he told the stories, how engrossed I got into the story of each book and how important it became to me. And I remember feeling this other thing where I was like, "If I don't buy this..." How much regret I was going to have, because I'm going to miss out on the story and the thing and all the stuff." So by him telling his story, the same regret that he was having by selling this book, was the same regret I was going to have if I didn't have the book, which was super fascinating, don't you think? And anyway, Oh, and then there's so many sales lessons I could tell you. It's from this guy, he's like, "I'm a horrible salesperson." But then also talking about status, right? As he's showing me these books and he's like, "There's a lot of people have three, but there's no one that has all five of these." He's like, "Maybe one or two people on the planet." He's like, "Instantly you'd be one of the top five rare, Mormon book collectors on the planet, if you had this set." And then this, and then... It was crazy. And I come into this thing, not planning on buying anything just wanting to see what he has to two hours, three hours later, writing one of the biggest checks in my life. But I share it to you because I want you to understand, that is the power of story, right? I always tell you guys, if you're teaching a concept, you have to tell the story about how you learned or you earned it. If you're selling a product or service or a thing, you have to tell the story about how it was created. The story is the thing that increases the perceived value. I literally went from like, "Here's an old book." Like, "Oh, sweet." To like, "Let me tell the story of the book." And then he got deeper in the story and the meaning and all these kinds of things got to the point where like, "Wow, that's really cool." To like, "Ooh, I really want that." To like, "If I don't have that, I'm going to lose something." The fear of missing out, of not having that, became so big and so large that I was willing to do, as a buyer, do something completely irrational, to make sure that we had it, right? Anyway, it's just fascinating. It was such a cool case study to me. To see these things being used on me. In fact, I told him at the end, I was like, "Dude, you told me two hours ago that you're not that good at selling." And I'm like, "All selling is, is telling a story in a way that increases the perceived value of the thing that you're trying to sell." I said, "Based on that definition of selling, you're the greatest salespeople I've ever seen." Right? And so, I want you guys to understand that. A lot of times we think, "Oh, we need to do the newest sales trick. I need this technique or I need da, da, da, da." All these kind of things. It's like, "No, no, no." the best sales people, the thing that they do is, they tell a story that increases the perceived value of the thing that they're trying to get you to desire. And if you desire it, then you're going to want it, right? To the point where if you don't have it, then you're going to feel the same regret that that person has giving it away. Like, "If I don't have this, ugh, like what would like what's to happen tomorrow or the next day? How are we going to feel?" All the other emotions start flooding in as well, right? And so, that was the fascinating thing. So anyway, I want to share with you guys for so many reasons. Number one, I'm excited. I got sold, I love getting sold. It's the greatest thing in the world. Number two, just the lesson. And that is the lesson, how do you tell your story in a way that increases the perceived value of the thing you're selling? That's the big secret. That's the big, ah-ha. It's not becoming a slick at selling or figuring out the masterful funnel or any of those things, right? It's getting good at telling the story about the thing that you're selling in a way that increases the perceived value, so that it goes from an, "Oh, it's cool." To a want, to a desire to, "If I don't have this thing, I'm going to regret it for the rest of my life." And that's the magic. So anyway, think of that for your product. Think about next time you're on a Facebook live or doing a podcast or you're trying to sell something or whatever it is. Or you're face-to-face with somebody or whatever, right? What's the story? How did you learn it? How did you earn it? How did you create it? How did you find it? What was the thing? Why is it so important? Why is it valuable? How's that person's status going to be increased if they have it, how's the status going to decrease if they don't have it? How are they going to regret this in the future if they don't have it? Those are all these little things they're tied to the story that make it to the point where it's like, "Oh, I have to have this thing." The better you get at that, the more money you're going to make. Anyway, that's all I got you guys, I hope you enjoyed it. Sunday when this library is done, this will become part of the pilgrimage to internet marketing Mecca. You guys will have to come to Boise, Idaho, and come look at the library and walk through it and see it. It's going to be something magical. There's more things planned inside the library/event center/stuff. But anyway, someday hopefully you have a chance to come see it. I'm sure that as we start building it, you guys will see the footage and the videos and all this stuff. Oh, there's so many cool things that are happening in it. In fact, right now, today, they're out there literally surveying the land, which is exciting. Anyway. So one of those things, one of those dreams that become a reality and I'm really excited for it. My plan is to build out a whole research center and start hiring people to can do research and finding things and searching. And I want to be able to take... I feel like one of my roles here is to sift through tons and tons of information and to find the best things and bring it back to you, right? Like if you look at my books, that's like me going through 10,000 books and 100,000 split tests and things, trying things. And then my books are like, "Here's what I found. Here's what actually works." Right? And I want to do that at a bigger scale, and I want to be able to do that on all the topics I'm excited about in life. And building that research seems to go through and plow through tens of thousands of books, find out the core pieces, bring them back to us so we can test them, we can try them. And then from there be able to give you guys products and courses and books and training or whatever the thing is to help get you guys results in your life. And so, that's kind of next phase in my life that I'm really excited for is that, is building the research center, building the library and then building the team to create those things. So anyway, if any of you guys are interested, if you're a researcher, if you're a writer, if you're obsessed with the things I'm obsessed with, and I don't know, maybe it would be a good fit. Maybe someday I'll put out a job application, see if anyone would love to spend their life living in Russell's library, just reading books and researching and pulling out the gems, so that we can turn it into something that'll change people's lives. Any who, that's all I got for today. I appreciate you guys. Remember, selling is all about learning how to tell your story in a way to increase the perceived value of the thing that you're trying to sell. If you can master that, you'll never have to work another day in your life. All right guys, appreciate you all. We'll talk soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This weekend, I had the chance to witness one of the best sales presentations of my life. Let me show you how it worked, and how you can model it for what you do.

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Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing secrets podcast. Today, I want to talk about the secret to increasing the perceived value of whatever it is you're selling. And I'm going to tell you a story about how somebody did this to me this weekend and it was amazing. So, here we go.

All right, so I'm going to give you some backstory. Some of you guys know that I'm mildly obsessed with books. Books are the coolest, seriously, come on now. And so my office I'm in now, is swelling with books. We have big bookshelves but there's no room left at all. And so, I decided to start a project. We're going to build a library, a huge library in the lot next to our office, so I can have more books.

So I think my office right now has, I think we did the math, has like a little under 10,000 books are in there right now. And the new office will hold, or the new library, will hold up like 60,000 books, which is crazy. And I'm going to have different sections. Like one section that's going to be just about business. One on personal development, one on health, one on religion, just the different topics that I'm passionate about, right?

And so, and in there I'll have all the books that matter on all those topics and it's going to be amazing. But then on top of that, I'm kind of a collector of old books, because old books are the coolest thing ever. And so, in section, like for the religion section for example, it'd be a big like white glass bulletproof case that has these old religious books in there.

And then same thing with personal development. Like, I'm looking at this, The Laws of Success that Napoleon Hill wrote way back in the day, that's so cool. Anyway, that'd be out on display under these bulletproof glass and a bunch of the cool things. So anyway, there's kind of the frame where I'm at, right? And so anyway, there's this guy who messaged me this week and was like, "Hey, I'm one of the top..." Or, not the one of, "I'm the top rare Mormon book collectors in the world."

And he's like, "I'm in Utah right now and I can come and show you some of things I have. And he started telling me all the stuff he has, I'm like, "Heck yeah dude, if you want to drive up here, I'll look at it." Not thinking that I'm going to purchase anything. So anyway, so the guy that drives up and he has these cases and brings them out and he's got all these old insanely cool, amazing books, right?

Now, again, I can't tell you all the details because... Anyway, so some things don't make any logical sense, but I'll give you the basic gist. So, so you guys know, I actually bought a first edition book of Mormon back in the day, which is one of my prize possessions. And he had like five first additions. And my mine's like a good one, these are like insane. The highest quality in the world, right?

And so when he brought him, I'm like, "I'm going to look at these things but I already have one, I don't need another one. There's no way I'm going to do it." Right? And he tells us ahead of time, he said, "I'm not the best sales person in the world, but as I show you these books, I'm just going to tell you the story behind each of them." And I'm like, "Okay."

And so, one at a time, he pulls out the book and you see it. And I was like, "Oh cool, yeah, I have one like that." And then he starts telling you the story behind it. Like, "Let me tell you how I found this. This is where I got it. This is what it looks like. This is why it's so cool. This is..." Like, "Look at this, look at the inscription, look at the thing here, look at the thing..." And started showing you all the pieces about it.

Where within like 10 minutes I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I want that so bad." And they shows the first book and he's like, "Here's the second book." And pulls it out and tells the story behind that and how he found it, and why it's so cool and the intricacies and why this one's different, and why it's so important, and why very few people have it and the scarcity of it.

Right? The second book is the second edition printing of The Book of Mormon, and it was so cool. And he's like, "Just so you know, there's only 25 of these on planet earth right now that we know of. And this one is the best quality one." And shows that and I'm like, "That's so cool." But still in my head, I'm like, "I'm not here to buy anything."

And then he shows the third one and the fourth one and the fifth one. Then he shows this other book and then just going through book after book, all these things. And as he did it, he didn't just like, "Oh, here's the book." Like, show it to me. He told me the story about each one. It was interesting, as he told the story, the story, as you guys know, if you've been following me for any amount of time, the story increases the perceived value of the thing.

And so by hearing the story, he went from like, "Oh yeah, that's a book." Like, "There's no book." To like, "Ooh, there's an old book that it's pretty cool." To like, "Oh my gosh, I really want this old book." And by then it's like, "I have to have this at all costs." Like, "This needs to be in my library, otherwise, what's the point of building a library? I should just burn it to the ground, right?"

And so, it was just fascinating. And this was one of my interesting takeaways. Because I asked this guy, he finds these things, collects them, and then sells them. And I said, "Is this hard for you to sell these after you find them and you know the stories?" And he told me something interesting. He said, "I've regretted every book I've sold." He's like, "But this is what I do. So I've done it for the last 40 years."

And it was interesting because I was noticing myself, as he told the stories, how engrossed I got into the story of each book and how important it became to me. And I remember feeling this other thing where I was like, "If I don't buy this..." How much regret I was going to have, because I'm going to miss out on the story and the thing and all the stuff."

So by him telling his story, the same regret that he was having by selling this book, was the same regret I was going to have if I didn't have the book, which was super fascinating, don't you think? And anyway, Oh, and then there's so many sales lessons I could tell you. It's from this guy, he's like, "I'm a horrible salesperson." But then also talking about status, right?

As he's showing me these books and he's like, "There's a lot of people have three, but there's no one that has all five of these." He's like, "Maybe one or two people on the planet." He's like, "Instantly you'd be one of the top five rare, Mormon book collectors on the planet, if you had this set." And then this, and then...

It was crazy. And I come into this thing, not planning on buying anything just wanting to see what he has to two hours, three hours later, writing one of the biggest checks in my life. But I share it to you because I want you to understand, that is the power of story, right? I always tell you guys, if you're teaching a concept, you have to tell the story about how you learned or you earned it.

If you're selling a product or service or a thing, you have to tell the story about how it was created. The story is the thing that increases the perceived value. I literally went from like, "Here's an old book." Like, "Oh, sweet." To like, "Let me tell the story of the book." And then he got deeper in the story and the meaning and all these kinds of things got to the point where like, "Wow, that's really cool." To like, "Ooh, I really want that." To like, "If I don't have that, I'm going to lose something."

The fear of missing out, of not having that, became so big and so large that I was willing to do, as a buyer, do something completely irrational, to make sure that we had it, right? Anyway, it's just fascinating. It was such a cool case study to me. To see these things being used on me. In fact, I told him at the end, I was like, "Dude, you told me two hours ago that you're not that good at selling."

And I'm like, "All selling is, is telling a story in a way that increases the perceived value of the thing that you're trying to sell." I said, "Based on that definition of selling, you're the greatest salespeople I've ever seen." Right? And so, I want you guys to understand that. A lot of times we think, "Oh, we need to do the newest sales trick. I need this technique or I need da, da, da, da." All these kind of things.

It's like, "No, no, no." the best sales people, the thing that they do is, they tell a story that increases the perceived value of the thing that they're trying to get you to desire. And if you desire it, then you're going to want it, right? To the point where if you don't have it, then you're going to feel the same regret that that person has giving it away.

Like, "If I don't have this, ugh, like what would like what's to happen tomorrow or the next day? How are we going to feel?" All the other emotions start flooding in as well, right? And so, that was the fascinating thing. So anyway, I want to share with you guys for so many reasons.

Number one, I'm excited. I got sold, I love getting sold. It's the greatest thing in the world. Number two, just the lesson. And that is the lesson, how do you tell your story in a way that increases the perceived value of the thing you're selling? That's the big secret. That's the big, ah-ha. It's not becoming a slick at selling or figuring out the masterful funnel or any of those things, right?

It's getting good at telling the story about the thing that you're selling in a way that increases the perceived value, so that it goes from an, "Oh, it's cool." To a want, to a desire to, "If I don't have this thing, I'm going to regret it for the rest of my life." And that's the magic. So anyway, think of that for your product. Think about next time you're on a Facebook live or doing a podcast or you're trying to sell something or whatever it is.

Or you're face-to-face with somebody or whatever, right? What's the story? How did you learn it? How did you earn it? How did you create it? How did you find it? What was the thing? Why is it so important? Why is it valuable? How's that person's status going to be increased if they have it, how's the status going to decrease if they don't have it? How are they going to regret this in the future if they don't have it?

Those are all these little things they're tied to the story that make it to the point where it's like, "Oh, I have to have this thing." The better you get at that, the more money you're going to make. Anyway, that's all I got you guys, I hope you enjoyed it. Sunday when this library is done, this will become part of the pilgrimage to internet marketing Mecca.

You guys will have to come to Boise, Idaho, and come look at the library and walk through it and see it. It's going to be something magical. There's more things planned inside the library/event center/stuff. But anyway, someday hopefully you have a chance to come see it. I'm sure that as we start building it, you guys will see the footage and the videos and all this stuff.

Oh, there's so many cool things that are happening in it. In fact, right now, today, they're out there literally surveying the land, which is exciting. Anyway. So one of those things, one of those dreams that become a reality and I'm really excited for it. My plan is to build out a whole research center and start hiring people to can do research and finding things and searching.

And I want to be able to take... I feel like one of my roles here is to sift through tons and tons of information and to find the best things and bring it back to you, right? Like if you look at my books, that's like me going through 10,000 books and 100,000 split tests and things, trying things. And then my books are like, "Here's what I found. Here's what actually works." Right?

And I want to do that at a bigger scale, and I want to be able to do that on all the topics I'm excited about in life. And building that research seems to go through and plow through tens of thousands of books, find out the core pieces, bring them back to us so we can test them, we can try them. And then from there be able to give you guys products and courses and books and training or whatever the thing is to help get you guys results in your life.

And so, that's kind of next phase in my life that I'm really excited for is that, is building the research center, building the library and then building the team to create those things. So anyway, if any of you guys are interested, if you're a researcher, if you're a writer, if you're obsessed with the things I'm obsessed with, and I don't know, maybe it would be a good fit.

Maybe someday I'll put out a job application, see if anyone would love to spend their life living in Russell's library, just reading books and researching and pulling out the gems, so that we can turn it into something that'll change people's lives. Any who, that's all I got for today. I appreciate you guys.

Remember, selling is all about learning how to tell your story in a way to increase the perceived value of the thing that you're trying to sell. If you can master that, you'll never have to work another day in your life. All right guys, appreciate you all. We'll talk soon. Bye.

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]]> 788 no Mini Rant: You Attract Who You Are, Not Who You Want https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/mini-rant-you-attract-who-you-are-not-who-you-want Yes, this is how I really feel… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I've got a little mini rant for you. All right. So I'm in the middle of The One Funnel Away Challenge, and I am having a lot of fun with it. And it's funny because there's 5500 people that joined this one, which is the most we've ever had in a challenge. Which anytime you have a challenge, or that many people, there's always a little bit of crazy in there. I remember hearing Tim Ferriss talk about one time, he said that ... he's like, "When my following was small, everyone seemed normal, but now on my blog," I can't remember what, he's like "I got 10 million readers." He's like, "10 million people. That's the size of New York City." He's like, "There are a lot of crazy, insane people inside of New York City." So based on that, he's like, "People that are reading me," he's like, "there are lunatics. There are people are insane. There's probably murderers. There's like all these horrible people in there." And he's like, "When your audience is so big, there's always a bunch of crazies." And so, I was thinking about that as we start growing and there's people that come in and say funny things and just frustrating. So today, I saw one. And so, this is my little mini rant about it. The comment was basically like, "Russell, I signed up for One Funnel Way. Why do I keep getting emails about One Funnel Way. I'm super angry, and I'm not impatient. It makes me want to refund my money and blah, blah, blah. Quit spamming me with all your stuff." I was just like, all right, number one, do you know what spam is? The definition of spam is not you signing up for something and you getting emails about it. Spam means me stealing your email and sending you unsolicited mail. That is spamming. You getting messages in an auto responder is not. Number two, the reason why I do not pull you off this because it is actually strategic. It actually helps increase how much money we make. Everyone's got this, I don't know... This is the automation gurus. They had this thought in their head, like you don't want somebody just to email for a product they already bought in the past. If you do, blah, blah, blah. Or you don't want someone to see an ad for a product they already bought in the past. You got to make sure that nobody ever sees it. And so, they stress so much about pulling people out and making sure they don't see this thing, this and this. And the reality is the opposite is actually true. So drives me nuts about it. All the automation groups have this thought that yeah, you have to have perfect automations. That's what this guy was complaining about. Like, "If your system is so good. Why don't you pull me out? Because I already bought it." And there's a reason behind it. The reason is because if I did that, it would actually lower your likelihood of success. I learned this initially, actually from Matt Furey, back in the day, Matt Furey, he was promoting some course he had created. And he sent emails every single day for 30 days. And I was on a coaching call. And I heard somebody ask Matt, "Well, when people buy, do you pull them off the list, so they don't keep getting emails." He's like, "No, why would I do that?" "Because they already bought it, why should you keep sending emails?" He's like, "Because," he's like, "the first thing that happens when they buy something is they get what? Buyer remorse. And then, they may buy a product, and they never actually go through it." He's like, "You have to keep selling the person 100 times, even if they bought. You have to sell them on why they shouldn't feel bad about the thing they bought." Two days later, I'm like, "Oh man, that costs a hundred bucks, maybe I need that money." If they see another ad for it, they're like, "Oh yeah." It reconfirm their decision, gets rid of by remorse. And then someone's like, "Oh, I got the course, I haven't gone through yet." Well, if you never message them about it, they're going to forget about it. If I keep messaging them, you keep seeing the ads, it's like, "Oh yeah, I bought that thing. I should go back and do it. Oh yeah." It re-motivates you, re-inspires you, re-gets you excited about going and consuming the thing you already paid for. So by actually not pulling you off of every single list and every retargeting list and every email sequence, I'm actually doing you a favor. It gives you the ability for me to resell you, reconfirm you, get you more excited about the thing over and over and over and over and over again. If I stopped talking about Click Funnels, the moment you sign up for Click funnels, guess what would happen? You wouldn't use Click Funnels. You wouldn't be successful if you use Click Funnels. Like, "Oh, I guess this doesn't work because Russell's not talking about it anymore." I keep talking about it. Because it works. And sometimes, someone uses Click Funnels. And then, some reason, they're not happier that something happens or their business changes and they cancel. If I just say, "Oh, they used to have Click Funnels once. And they're never going to join again. That is not true. People would sign up and cancel, sign up and cancel, over and over and over again. And so, if you keep talking about your message. So while I understand the importance of automation and moving someone from list to list, a lot of times that is not necessary. In fact, it'll hurt your audience more than it'll actually help them. So take that all of you automation experts who think that that's the magic. Literally before the challenge, my team asked me, "Should we be pulling people off the list, the promotion list as they sign up?" I said, "No, because if you do, they sign up two weeks before the challenge starts, they're going to forget in two weeks. But they see the message and the next message, it's coming to you, it's starting tomorrow. I'm like, "If you haven't signed it yet, make sure you sign up." Those things get people to remember and get people that actually show up. So why would I pull them off of those sequences? I need them as excited as the person that bought, the second before we started. And so anyway, there's my mini rant for today. The other mini rant is I want people to understand... I learned this from Myron Golden. You don't attract who you want, you attract who you are. So if you're the kind of customer coming in and complaining like, "Oh, why are you spamming with all your messages? Stop sending me emails. I want to refund my thing. I'm so angry. I'm so impatient, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Because you're getting an email, for crying out loud? You're not going to be successful in this marketing game. I promise you that. You do not attract who you want, you to attract who you are. And so, if that's how you feel about marketing, that's the kind of people you're going to bring into your world. And they're going to be the worst customers of all time. They're going to complain. They're going to whine. They're going to be like horrible people. Anyway, it's weird. I don't know works, but it's true. So be the kind of customer, be the kind of subscriber you want. If that email comes and it doesn't make sense to you, just delete it or hide it or ignore it. It's really not a big of a deal. I get in my inbox, I'd say, I don't know, on a minimum 800 to a thousand emails a day. Do I get angry about them? No. Someone's like, "Why don't you unsubscribe from the list?" I'm like "Why would I unsubscribe from the lists. I'm a marketer. I'm trying to see marketing. I want to see 1500 emails come in my inbox every day, with 1500 swipe files of people doing the thing that I'm trying to learn how to do, the thing that I'm trying to become better at doing. Why would I unsubscribe? Are you moron? Or "they send like five emails selling this product, I unsubscribe." I'm like, "Really? I thought you signed up to become a marketer. Watch it, watch what they're doing, figure it out." Don't be like, "Oh, I know what I'm talking about. I'm annoyed. Seriously, that's how you're going to fail in life, especially in this game. Watch, be excited, funnel hack. Be like, "Huh." So like, "I'm angry that Russell is doing this I'm inpatient. What if you stopped for a second? It's like, huh, Russell makes a crap ton more money than me. He makes more per day than I make per decade. I wonder if he knows something I don't know." I don't know. I'm just putting it out there. So yeah, there you go. Me, rant over. That's all I got. You guys don't get bought into this whole automation thing. It is not as powerful or important as you probably think it is. That's number one. Number two, you attract who you are, not who you want. So don't be a bad person. Be awesome. That's all I got. Thanks, you guys. Appreciate you all and have a great day. Talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Jan 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Mini Rant: You Attract Who You Are, Not Who You Want full 380 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Yes, this is how I really feel… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I've got a little mini... Yes, this is how I really feel… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I've got a little mini rant for you. All right. So I'm in the middle of The One Funnel Away Challenge, and I am having a lot of fun with it. And it's funny because there's 5500 people that joined this one, which is the most we've ever had in a challenge. Which anytime you have a challenge, or that many people, there's always a little bit of crazy in there. I remember hearing Tim Ferriss talk about one time, he said that ... he's like, "When my following was small, everyone seemed normal, but now on my blog," I can't remember what, he's like "I got 10 million readers." He's like, "10 million people. That's the size of New York City." He's like, "There are a lot of crazy, insane people inside of New York City." So based on that, he's like, "People that are reading me," he's like, "there are lunatics. There are people are insane. There's probably murderers. There's like all these horrible people in there." And he's like, "When your audience is so big, there's always a bunch of crazies." And so, I was thinking about that as we start growing and there's people that come in and say funny things and just frustrating. So today, I saw one. And so, this is my little mini rant about it. The comment was basically like, "Russell, I signed up for One Funnel Way. Why do I keep getting emails about One Funnel Way. I'm super angry, and I'm not impatient. It makes me want to refund my money and blah, blah, blah. Quit spamming me with all your stuff." I was just like, all right, number one, do you know what spam is? The definition of spam is not you signing up for something and you getting emails about it. Spam means me stealing your email and sending you unsolicited mail. That is spamming. You getting messages in an auto responder is not. Number two, the reason why I do not pull you off this because it is actually strategic. It actually helps increase how much money we make. Everyone's got this, I don't know... This is the automation gurus. They had this thought in their head, like you don't want somebody just to email for a product they already bought in the past. If you do, blah, blah, blah. Or you don't want someone to see an ad for a product they already bought in the past. You got to make sure that nobody ever sees it. And so, they stress so much about pulling people out and making sure they don't see this thing, this and this. And the reality is the opposite is actually true. So drives me nuts about it. All the automation groups have this thought that yeah, you have to have perfect automations. That's what this guy was complaining about. Like, "If your system is so good. Why don't you pull me out? Because I already bought it." And there's a reason behind it. The reason is because if I did that, it would actually lower your likelihood of success. I learned this initially, actually from Matt Furey, back in the day, Matt Furey, he was promoting some course he had created. And he sent emails every single day for 30 days. And I was on a coaching call. And I heard somebody ask Matt, "Well, when people buy, do you pull them off the list, so they don't keep getting emails." He's like, "No, why would I do that?" "Because they already bought it, why should you keep sending emails?" He's like, "Because," he's like, "the first thing that happens when they buy something is they get what? Buyer remorse. And then, they may buy a product, and they never actually go through it." He's like, "You have to keep selling the person 100 times, even if they bought. You have to sell them on why they shouldn't feel bad about the thing they bought." Two days later, I'm like, "Oh man, that costs a hundred bucks, maybe I need that money." If they see another ad for it, they're like, "Oh yeah." It reconfirm their decision, gets rid of by remorse. And then someone's like, "Oh, I got the course, I haven't gone through yet." Well, if you never message them about it, they're going to forget about it. If I keep messaging them, you keep seeing the ads, it's like, "Oh yeah, I bought that thing. I should go back and do it. Oh yeah." It re-motivates you, re-inspires you, re-gets you excited about going and consuming the thing you already paid for. So by actually not pulling you off of every single list and every retargeting list and every email sequence, I'm actually doing you a favor. It gives you the ability for me to resell you, reconfirm you, get you more excited about the thing over and over and over and over and over again. If I stopped talking about Click Funnels, the moment you sign up for Click funnels, guess what would happen? You wouldn't use Click Funnels. You wouldn't be successful if you use Click Funnels. Like, "Oh, I guess this doesn't work because Russell's not talking about it anymore." I keep talking about it. Because it works. And sometimes, someone uses Click Funnels. And then, some reason, they're not happier that something happens or their business changes and they cancel. If I just say, "Oh, they used to have Click Funnels once. And they're never going to join again. That is not true. People would sign up and cancel, sign up and cancel, over and over and over again. And so, if you keep talking about your message. So while I understand the importance of automation and moving someone from list to list, a lot of times that is not necessary. In fact, it'll hurt your audience more than it'll actually help them. So take that all of you automation experts who think that that's the magic. Literally before the challenge, my team asked me, "Should we be pulling people off the list, the promotion list as they sign up?" I said, "No, because if you do, they sign up two weeks before the challenge starts, they're going to forget in two weeks. But they see the message and the next message, it's coming to you, it's starting tomorrow. I'm like, "If you haven't signed it yet, make sure you sign up." Those things get people to remember and get people that actually show up. So why would I pull them off of those sequences? I need them as excited as the person that bought, the second before we started. And so anyway, there's my mini rant for today. The other mini rant is I want people to understand... I learned this from Myron Golden. You don't attract who you want, you attract who you are. So if you're the kind of customer coming in and complaining like, "Oh, why are you spamming with all your messages? Stop sending me emails. I want to refund my thing. I'm so angry. I'm so impatient, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Because you're getting an email, for crying out loud? You're not going to be successful in this marketing game. I promise you that. You do not attract who you want, you to attract who you are. And so, if that's how you feel about marketing, that's the kind of people you're going to bring into your world. And they're going to be the worst customers of all time. They're going to complain. They're going to whine. They're going to be like horrible people. Anyway, it's weird. I don't know works, but it's true. So be the kind of customer, be the kind of subscriber you want. If that email comes and it doesn't make sense to you, just delete it or hide it or ignore it. It's really not a big of a deal. I get in my inbox, I'd say, I don't know, on a minimum 800 to a thousand emails a day. Do I get angry about them? No. Someone's like, "Why don't you unsubscribe from the list?" I'm like "Why would I unsubscribe from the lists. I'm a marketer. I'm trying to see marketing. I want to see 1500 emails come in my inbox every day, with 1500 swipe files of people doing the thing that I'm trying to learn how to do, the thing that I'm trying to become better at doing. Why would I unsubscribe? Are you moron? Or "they send like five emails selling this product, I unsubscribe." I'm like, "Really? I thought you signed up to become a marketer. Watch it, watch what they're doing, figure it out." Don't be like, "Oh, I know what I'm talking about. I'm annoyed. Seriously, that's how you're going to fail in life, especially in this game. Watch, be excited, funnel hack. Be like, "Huh." So like, "I'm angry that Russell is doing this I'm inpatient. What if you stopped for a second? It's like, huh, Russell makes a crap ton more money than me. He makes more per day than I make per decade. I wonder if he knows something I don't know." I don't know. I'm just putting it out there. So yeah, there you go. Me, rant over. That's all I got. You guys don't get bought into this whole automation thing. It is not as powerful or important as you probably think it is. That's number one. Number two, you attract who you are, not who you want. So don't be a bad person. Be awesome. That's all I got. Thanks, you guys. Appreciate you all and have a great day. Talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Yes, this is how I really feel…

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---Transcript---

Hey, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I've got a little mini rant for you. All right. So I'm in the middle of The One Funnel Away Challenge, and I am having a lot of fun with it. And it's funny because there's 5500 people that joined this one, which is the most we've ever had in a challenge. Which anytime you have a challenge, or that many people, there's always a little bit of crazy in there. I remember hearing Tim Ferriss talk about one time, he said that ... he's like, "When my following was small, everyone seemed normal, but now on my blog," I can't remember what, he's like "I got 10 million readers." He's like, "10 million people. That's the size of New York City." He's like, "There are a lot of crazy, insane people inside of New York City." So based on that, he's like, "People that are reading me," he's like, "there are lunatics. There are people are insane. There's probably murderers. There's like all these horrible people in there." And he's like, "When your audience is so big, there's always a bunch of crazies."

And so, I was thinking about that as we start growing and there's people that come in and say funny things and just frustrating. So today, I saw one. And so, this is my little mini rant about it. The comment was basically like, "Russell, I signed up for One Funnel Way. Why do I keep getting emails about One Funnel Way. I'm super angry, and I'm not impatient. It makes me want to refund my money and blah, blah, blah. Quit spamming me with all your stuff." I was just like, all right, number one, do you know what spam is? The definition of spam is not you signing up for something and you getting emails about it. Spam means me stealing your email and sending you unsolicited mail. That is spamming. You getting messages in an auto responder is not.

Number two, the reason why I do not pull you off this because it is actually strategic. It actually helps increase how much money we make. Everyone's got this, I don't know... This is the automation gurus. They had this thought in their head, like you don't want somebody just to email for a product they already bought in the past. If you do, blah, blah, blah. Or you don't want someone to see an ad for a product they already bought in the past. You got to make sure that nobody ever sees it. And so, they stress so much about pulling people out and making sure they don't see this thing, this and this. And the reality is the opposite is actually true. So drives me nuts about it.

All the automation groups have this thought that yeah, you have to have perfect automations. That's what this guy was complaining about. Like, "If your system is so good. Why don't you pull me out? Because I already bought it." And there's a reason behind it. The reason is because if I did that, it would actually lower your likelihood of success. I learned this initially, actually from Matt Furey, back in the day, Matt Furey, he was promoting some course he had created. And he sent emails every single day for 30 days.

And I was on a coaching call. And I heard somebody ask Matt, "Well, when people buy, do you pull them off the list, so they don't keep getting emails." He's like, "No, why would I do that?" "Because they already bought it, why should you keep sending emails?" He's like, "Because," he's like, "the first thing that happens when they buy something is they get what? Buyer remorse. And then, they may buy a product, and they never actually go through it." He's like, "You have to keep selling the person 100 times, even if they bought. You have to sell them on why they shouldn't feel bad about the thing they bought." Two days later, I'm like, "Oh man, that costs a hundred bucks, maybe I need that money." If they see another ad for it, they're like, "Oh yeah." It reconfirm their decision, gets rid of by remorse.

And then someone's like, "Oh, I got the course, I haven't gone through yet." Well, if you never message them about it, they're going to forget about it. If I keep messaging them, you keep seeing the ads, it's like, "Oh yeah, I bought that thing. I should go back and do it. Oh yeah." It re-motivates you, re-inspires you, re-gets you excited about going and consuming the thing you already paid for. So by actually not pulling you off of every single list and every retargeting list and every email sequence, I'm actually doing you a favor. It gives you the ability for me to resell you, reconfirm you, get you more excited about the thing over and over and over and over and over again. If I stopped talking about Click Funnels, the moment you sign up for Click funnels, guess what would happen? You wouldn't use Click Funnels. You wouldn't be successful if you use Click Funnels. Like, "Oh, I guess this doesn't work because Russell's not talking about it anymore." I keep talking about it. Because it works.

And sometimes, someone uses Click Funnels. And then, some reason, they're not happier that something happens or their business changes and they cancel. If I just say, "Oh, they used to have Click Funnels once. And they're never going to join again. That is not true. People would sign up and cancel, sign up and cancel, over and over and over again. And so, if you keep talking about your message. So while I understand the importance of automation and moving someone from list to list, a lot of times that is not necessary. In fact, it'll hurt your audience more than it'll actually help them. So take that all of you automation experts who think that that's the magic.

Literally before the challenge, my team asked me, "Should we be pulling people off the list, the promotion list as they sign up?" I said, "No, because if you do, they sign up two weeks before the challenge starts, they're going to forget in two weeks. But they see the message and the next message, it's coming to you, it's starting tomorrow. I'm like, "If you haven't signed it yet, make sure you sign up." Those things get people to remember and get people that actually show up. So why would I pull them off of those sequences? I need them as excited as the person that bought, the second before we started. And so anyway, there's my mini rant for today.

The other mini rant is I want people to understand... I learned this from Myron Golden. You don't attract who you want, you attract who you are. So if you're the kind of customer coming in and complaining like, "Oh, why are you spamming with all your messages? Stop sending me emails. I want to refund my thing. I'm so angry. I'm so impatient, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Because you're getting an email, for crying out loud? You're not going to be successful in this marketing game. I promise you that. You do not attract who you want, you to attract who you are. And so, if that's how you feel about marketing, that's the kind of people you're going to bring into your world. And they're going to be the worst customers of all time. They're going to complain. They're going to whine. They're going to be like horrible people. Anyway, it's weird. I don't know works, but it's true. So be the kind of customer, be the kind of subscriber you want. If that email comes and it doesn't make sense to you, just delete it or hide it or ignore it. It's really not a big of a deal.

I get in my inbox, I'd say, I don't know, on a minimum 800 to a thousand emails a day. Do I get angry about them? No. Someone's like, "Why don't you unsubscribe from the list?" I'm like "Why would I unsubscribe from the lists. I'm a marketer. I'm trying to see marketing. I want to see 1500 emails come in my inbox every day, with 1500 swipe files of people doing the thing that I'm trying to learn how to do, the thing that I'm trying to become better at doing. Why would I unsubscribe? Are you moron? Or "they send like five emails selling this product, I unsubscribe." I'm like, "Really? I thought you signed up to become a marketer. Watch it, watch what they're doing, figure it out." Don't be like, "Oh, I know what I'm talking about. I'm annoyed. Seriously, that's how you're going to fail in life, especially in this game.

Watch, be excited, funnel hack. Be like, "Huh." So like, "I'm angry that Russell is doing this I'm inpatient. What if you stopped for a second? It's like, huh, Russell makes a crap ton more money than me. He makes more per day than I make per decade. I wonder if he knows something I don't know." I don't know. I'm just putting it out there. So yeah, there you go. Me, rant over. That's all I got. You guys don't get bought into this whole automation thing. It is not as powerful or important as you probably think it is. That's number one. Number two, you attract who you are, not who you want. So don't be a bad person. Be awesome. That's all I got. Thanks, you guys. Appreciate you all and have a great day. Talk soon.

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]]> 549 no The Free, The 7, The 297, The 9,997 Frameworks https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-free-the-7-the-297-the-9997-frameworks How to take the same framework, and turn it into an entire business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? Good morning. This is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Right now, I'm working on the One Funnel Away Challenge and wanted to jump in and say, "Hey". Hey, so this morning, I'm working on day number two of the One Funnel Away Challenge. Some of you guys know for the last almost three years now, we've been running the One Funnel Away Challenge. We had over 70,000 people go through, which is crazy to me. That one challenge alone, it's $100 per ticket, it almost about to hit 2 Comma Club X, which is exciting. Anyway, I decided that I wanted to redo it and kind of update it. And I wanted to do it live. A lot of you guys know, I just did the five day lead challenge live and it was really fun. And now I want to transition to do the One Funnel Away live. So I started yesterday and did the first training and it was great, except for after I got done, we'd open it up for Q and A's. And there was like so many questions that, if I would have taught it a little differently, those questions wouldn't have been there. So I'm actually going in this morning early and I'm rerecording. I'm bringing my clothes I wore yesterday. I'm rerecording the last half of day one. And then we're going to kind of mush that together and fix that for everybody that way moving forward, because this is the only time it will be live. After that, it'll have to be replayed because I can't do the live challenge every day for the rest of my life. So we'll kind of clean up the video and that way they'll have it moving forward. And then I'm doing day number two and then every day basically I'm going live for the next, almost 30 days. I'm not doing live on the weekends, but four weeks. So 20 days in a room Monday through Friday and it's exciting. And it's kind of fun because every time I teach this stuff, it gets clearer in my head. And it's one of the reasons why I think it's so important for all of you guys and me to publish so much. Between podcasts and videos and audios and speaking and doing challenges. And the more you do it, the more your message gets refined and the better it gets. I've been doing this now almost 20 years. So God, that's weird to say. I've been doing this for a long, long, long time and I'm still cleaning my message up. Like today, I just had these little aha's. And anyway I just want to put that out there for you guys. You think you have said your stuff and taught your stuff a lot, you haven't yet. You're still just a very, very beginning of it. That's number one. Number two. One of my big aha's and little takeaways today that I had, not that it was new, but just a new way to kind of teach it that I thought was interesting. I want to share with you guys, I talk a lot about frameworks and how we all need to be developing our own frameworks. And we still have a ton of different frameworks. And frameworks are just basically a step-by-step process, which teach somebody. So let's say you've gotten results in the past. So let's say you figured out how to get six pack abs or how to climb a mountain or how to head throw someone in wrestling or you, you figured out a result. And so how do you do that result? Well, you stand there and you break down the step by step. Step, number one, you do this. Step two, you do this. Step three, and you have this framework for how to reverse engineer, the result that you just got. And so that framework is the thing that we're selling. And so when you have that framework, there's a lot of things you can do with it. And what I was kind of mapping out here in my notes is that you can take that framework and I think you could teach it to most people in three minutes. It's like, here's my framework for how I do a head throw or whatever. How to lose weight or how to do whatever. And that three minute version could be like a YouTube video or an ad. I'm going to teach my framework. And they show the framework and it's really cool. Like, "Oh, that's amazing. I understand the framework." But then there's the next tier of the framework. So let's say, it says three minutes. Let's say you're going to teach that same framework, nothing different, just teaching the same framework. And this time you're going to teach it in an hour. And so you are... You teach it in an hour. So you teach the framework in an hour. And now that framework though, you can sell or you can give away to the lead magnet or you could sell it. So in what we're doing for the One Funnel Away Challenge, this is going to be their $7 offer. And so they have this framework. They're selling for $7 and instead of teaching an hour long version of that framework. So if I'm teaching a head throw in an hour, that might be a little hard. But if I'm teaching... Let's say I'm teaching how to lose weight in an hour, how to get six pack abs, or how to run a Facebook ad or whatever. I teach that thing in an hour and that becomes this product now that I can sell for $7. I'm productizing my framework. I'm taking the framework, turning it into a product, now by bulking it up. And then now, I have the ability to sell that. But now, it's like, okay, what if I took that hour long version and the say there's six steps in that framework. In an hour, I spend 10 minutes in each step. So what if instead I take that and instead of spending 10 minutes on each step, what if I spent on hour in each step? So I take that and a breakdown this framework, instead of being done in one hour, it's done over six modules. Now, it's a six hour course where each bullet point, each step in that process, I spend a full hour on. And now I just turned this thing from $7 offer into a six week course or six module course. And taking the same thing. I'm just teaching it different. I'm bulking it up. I'm telling more stories, I'm showing more examples, I'm showing more case studies. And I'm just doing more each at each level of it. And so now it becomes a six week course. And I can sell it for that for $297 or more. And then the next tier on top of that is, okay, how do we do a 'done for you' version? So instead of me just teaching this, I'm just going to do it for you. So it becomes a service or coaching or things like that. And that can sell from anywhere from 500 bucks to 10,000, 25,000, a 100,000 dollars or more. And it's just taking the same framework I already have, but now I'm actually doing it. I'm showing them how to do it. And so that's kind of the next tier, the next step. And so, anyways, it's interesting. I think lot of times we think we need to create a million different products, have a million different things, but, no, you're just taking your same framework and you're expanding upon it. You've got three minute version, the hour long version, the six module version, the live event version, the workshop version, the coaching version, the one-on-one coaching version. There's a whole bunch of different ways to package it and to fulfill on it. And I think that the key that people have to understand is that people will spend more money for the same product packaged in a different way. When you understand that it changes all these things. And it's exciting. So anyway, I just, this morning I was doodling that out. I'm going to be sharing it on day number two of OFA. I thought that'd be fun to share that with you guys and just get the wheels in your head spinning. What are your frameworks? Have you been thinking about that? What are the things that you teach? That you know how to do. The results that you know how to get for people. Start thinking about those and start developing them and start figuring them out and then make different versions of it. There's the 30 day challenge version. There's the book version. There's, there's a million ways to package it, structure it in a way that's going to help your dream clients get results. So anyway, that's all I got for this morning. Let me go back to finish preparing this. If you haven't done the One Funnel Away Challenge, you probably should do it. It's amazing. It was a hundred bucks and you get me live 20 days in a row. Plus you, well live this first version. You'll get the recordings if you sign up later, but it's still going to be worth it. Every day I stream a live presentation and I teach the strategy and then I give you the homework. I give you a one pager showing the tactics with homework assignments and things like that. And it's a lot of fun. Anyway, I hope that helps. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. And we'll see you guys soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 Jan 2021 09:00:00 -0000 The Free, The 7, The 297, The 9,997 Frameworks full 379 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to take the same framework, and turn it into an entire business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? Good morning. This is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you... How to take the same framework, and turn it into an entire business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? Good morning. This is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Right now, I'm working on the One Funnel Away Challenge and wanted to jump in and say, "Hey". Hey, so this morning, I'm working on day number two of the One Funnel Away Challenge. Some of you guys know for the last almost three years now, we've been running the One Funnel Away Challenge. We had over 70,000 people go through, which is crazy to me. That one challenge alone, it's $100 per ticket, it almost about to hit 2 Comma Club X, which is exciting. Anyway, I decided that I wanted to redo it and kind of update it. And I wanted to do it live. A lot of you guys know, I just did the five day lead challenge live and it was really fun. And now I want to transition to do the One Funnel Away live. So I started yesterday and did the first training and it was great, except for after I got done, we'd open it up for Q and A's. And there was like so many questions that, if I would have taught it a little differently, those questions wouldn't have been there. So I'm actually going in this morning early and I'm rerecording. I'm bringing my clothes I wore yesterday. I'm rerecording the last half of day one. And then we're going to kind of mush that together and fix that for everybody that way moving forward, because this is the only time it will be live. After that, it'll have to be replayed because I can't do the live challenge every day for the rest of my life. So we'll kind of clean up the video and that way they'll have it moving forward. And then I'm doing day number two and then every day basically I'm going live for the next, almost 30 days. I'm not doing live on the weekends, but four weeks. So 20 days in a room Monday through Friday and it's exciting. And it's kind of fun because every time I teach this stuff, it gets clearer in my head. And it's one of the reasons why I think it's so important for all of you guys and me to publish so much. Between podcasts and videos and audios and speaking and doing challenges. And the more you do it, the more your message gets refined and the better it gets. I've been doing this now almost 20 years. So God, that's weird to say. I've been doing this for a long, long, long time and I'm still cleaning my message up. Like today, I just had these little aha's. And anyway I just want to put that out there for you guys. You think you have said your stuff and taught your stuff a lot, you haven't yet. You're still just a very, very beginning of it. That's number one. Number two. One of my big aha's and little takeaways today that I had, not that it was new, but just a new way to kind of teach it that I thought was interesting. I want to share with you guys, I talk a lot about frameworks and how we all need to be developing our own frameworks. And we still have a ton of different frameworks. And frameworks are just basically a step-by-step process, which teach somebody. So let's say you've gotten results in the past. So let's say you figured out how to get six pack abs or how to climb a mountain or how to head throw someone in wrestling or you, you figured out a result. And so how do you do that result? Well, you stand there and you break down the step by step. Step, number one, you do this. Step two, you do this. Step three, and you have this framework for how to reverse engineer, the result that you just got. And so that framework is the thing that we're selling. And so when you have that framework, there's a lot of things you can do with it. And what I was kind of mapping out here in my notes is that you can take that framework and I think you could teach it to most people in three minutes. It's like, here's my framework for how I do a head throw or whatever. How to lose weight or how to do whatever. And that three minute version could be like a YouTube video or an ad. I'm going to teach my framework. And they show the framework and it's really cool. Like, "Oh, that's amazing. I understand the framework." But then there's the next tier of the framework. So let's say, it says three minutes. Let's say you're going to teach that same framework, nothing different, just teaching the same framework. And this time you're going to teach it in an hour. And so you are... You teach it in an hour. So you teach the framework in an hour. And now that framework though, you can sell or you can give away to the lead magnet or you could sell it. So in what we're doing for the One Funnel Away Challenge, this is going to be their $7 offer. And so they have this framework. They're selling for $7 and instead of teaching an hour long version of that framework. So if I'm teaching a head throw in an hour, that might be a little hard. But if I'm teaching... Let's say I'm teaching how to lose weight in an hour, how to get six pack abs, or how to run a Facebook ad or whatever. I teach that thing in an hour and that becomes this product now that I can sell for $7. I'm productizing my framework. I'm taking the framework, turning it into a product, now by bulking it up. And then now, I have the ability to sell that. But now, it's like, okay, what if I took that hour long version and the say there's six steps in that framework. In an hour, I spend 10 minutes in each step. So what if instead I take that and instead of spending 10 minutes on each step, what if I spent on hour in each step? So I take that and a breakdown this framework, instead of being done in one hour, it's done over six modules. Now, it's a six hour course where each bullet point, each step in that process, I spend a full hour on. And now I just turned this thing from $7 offer into a six week course or six module course. And taking the same thing. I'm just teaching it different. I'm bulking it up. I'm telling more stories, I'm showing more examples, I'm showing more case studies. And I'm just doing more each at each level of it. And so now it becomes a six week course. And I can sell it for that for $297 or more. And then the next tier on top of that is, okay, how do we do a 'done for you' version? So instead of me just teaching this, I'm just going to do it for you. So it becomes a service or coaching or things like that. And that can sell from anywhere from 500 bucks to 10,000, 25,000, a 100,000 dollars or more. And it's just taking the same framework I already have, but now I'm actually doing it. I'm showing them how to do it. And so that's kind of the next tier, the next step. And so, anyways, it's interesting. I think lot of times we think we need to create a million different products, have a million different things, but, no, you're just taking your same framework and you're expanding upon it. You've got three minute version, the hour long version, the six module version, the live event version, the workshop version, the coaching version, the one-on-one coaching version. There's a whole bunch of different ways to package it and to fulfill on it. And I think that the key that people have to understand is that people will spend more money for the same product packaged in a different way. When you understand that it changes all these things. And it's exciting. So anyway, I just, this morning I was doodling that out. I'm going to be sharing it on day number two of OFA. I thought that'd be fun to share that with you guys and just get the wheels in your head spinning. What are your frameworks? Have you been thinking about that? What are the things that you teach? That you know how to do. The results that you know how to get for people. Start thinking about those and start developing them and start figuring them out and then make different versions of it. There's the 30 day challenge version. There's the book version. There's, there's a million ways to package it, structure it in a way that's going to help your dream clients get results. So anyway, that's all I got for this morning. Let me go back to finish preparing this. If you haven't done the One Funnel Away Challenge, you probably should do it. It's amazing. It was a hundred bucks and you get me live 20 days in a row. Plus you, well live this first version. You'll get the recordings if you sign up later, but it's still going to be worth it. Every day I stream a live presentation and I teach the strategy and then I give you the homework. I give you a one pager showing the tactics with homework assignments and things like that. And it's a lot of fun. Anyway, I hope that helps. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. And we'll see you guys soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to take the same framework, and turn it into an entire business.

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What's up everybody? Good morning. This is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Right now, I'm working on the One Funnel Away Challenge and wanted to jump in and say, "Hey".

Hey, so this morning, I'm working on day number two of the One Funnel Away Challenge. Some of you guys know for the last almost three years now, we've been running the One Funnel Away Challenge. We had over 70,000 people go through, which is crazy to me.

That one challenge alone, it's $100 per ticket, it almost about to hit 2 Comma Club X, which is exciting. Anyway, I decided that I wanted to redo it and kind of update it. And I wanted to do it live. A lot of you guys know, I just did the five day lead challenge live and it was really fun. And now I want to transition to do the One Funnel Away live.

So I started yesterday and did the first training and it was great, except for after I got done, we'd open it up for Q and A's. And there was like so many questions that, if I would have taught it a little differently, those questions wouldn't have been there. So I'm actually going in this morning early and I'm rerecording. I'm bringing my clothes I wore yesterday. I'm rerecording the last half of day one. And then we're going to kind of mush that together and fix that for everybody that way moving forward, because this is the only time it will be live. After that, it'll have to be replayed because I can't do the live challenge every day for the rest of my life. So we'll kind of clean up the video and that way they'll have it moving forward. And then I'm doing day number two and then every day basically I'm going live for the next, almost 30 days.

I'm not doing live on the weekends, but four weeks. So 20 days in a room Monday through Friday and it's exciting. And it's kind of fun because every time I teach this stuff, it gets clearer in my head. And it's one of the reasons why I think it's so important for all of you guys and me to publish so much. Between podcasts and videos and audios and speaking and doing challenges. And the more you do it, the more your message gets refined and the better it gets. I've been doing this now almost 20 years. So God, that's weird to say. I've been doing this for a long, long, long time and I'm still cleaning my message up. Like today, I just had these little aha's. And anyway I just want to put that out there for you guys. You think you have said your stuff and taught your stuff a lot, you haven't yet. You're still just a very, very beginning of it. That's number one.

Number two. One of my big aha's and little takeaways today that I had, not that it was new, but just a new way to kind of teach it that I thought was interesting. I want to share with you guys, I talk a lot about frameworks and how we all need to be developing our own frameworks. And we still have a ton of different frameworks. And frameworks are just basically a step-by-step process, which teach somebody. So let's say you've gotten results in the past. So let's say you figured out how to get six pack abs or how to climb a mountain or how to head throw someone in wrestling or you, you figured out a result. And so how do you do that result? Well, you stand there and you break down the step by step. Step, number one, you do this. Step two, you do this. Step three, and you have this framework for how to reverse engineer, the result that you just got.

And so that framework is the thing that we're selling. And so when you have that framework, there's a lot of things you can do with it. And what I was kind of mapping out here in my notes is that you can take that framework and I think you could teach it to most people in three minutes. It's like, here's my framework for how I do a head throw or whatever. How to lose weight or how to do whatever. And that three minute version could be like a YouTube video or an ad. I'm going to teach my framework. And they show the framework and it's really cool. Like, "Oh, that's amazing. I understand the framework."

But then there's the next tier of the framework. So let's say, it says three minutes. Let's say you're going to teach that same framework, nothing different, just teaching the same framework. And this time you're going to teach it in an hour. And so you are... You teach it in an hour. So you teach the framework in an hour. And now that framework though, you can sell or you can give away to the lead magnet or you could sell it. So in what we're doing for the One Funnel Away Challenge, this is going to be their $7 offer. And so they have this framework. They're selling for $7 and instead of teaching an hour long version of that framework. So if I'm teaching a head throw in an hour, that might be a little hard. But if I'm teaching... Let's say I'm teaching how to lose weight in an hour, how to get six pack abs, or how to run a Facebook ad or whatever. I teach that thing in an hour and that becomes this product now that I can sell for $7.

I'm productizing my framework. I'm taking the framework, turning it into a product, now by bulking it up. And then now, I have the ability to sell that. But now, it's like, okay, what if I took that hour long version and the say there's six steps in that framework. In an hour, I spend 10 minutes in each step. So what if instead I take that and instead of spending 10 minutes on each step, what if I spent on hour in each step? So I take that and a breakdown this framework, instead of being done in one hour, it's done over six modules. Now, it's a six hour course where each bullet point, each step in that process, I spend a full hour on. And now I just turned this thing from $7 offer into a six week course or six module course.

And taking the same thing. I'm just teaching it different. I'm bulking it up. I'm telling more stories, I'm showing more examples, I'm showing more case studies. And I'm just doing more each at each level of it. And so now it becomes a six week course. And I can sell it for that for $297 or more. And then the next tier on top of that is, okay, how do we do a 'done for you' version? So instead of me just teaching this, I'm just going to do it for you. So it becomes a service or coaching or things like that. And that can sell from anywhere from 500 bucks to 10,000, 25,000, a 100,000 dollars or more. And it's just taking the same framework I already have, but now I'm actually doing it. I'm showing them how to do it. And so that's kind of the next tier, the next step.

And so, anyways, it's interesting. I think lot of times we think we need to create a million different products, have a million different things, but, no, you're just taking your same framework and you're expanding upon it. You've got three minute version, the hour long version, the six module version, the live event version, the workshop version, the coaching version, the one-on-one coaching version. There's a whole bunch of different ways to package it and to fulfill on it. And I think that the key that people have to understand is that people will spend more money for the same product packaged in a different way. When you understand that it changes all these things. And it's exciting. So anyway, I just, this morning I was doodling that out. I'm going to be sharing it on day number two of OFA.

I thought that'd be fun to share that with you guys and just get the wheels in your head spinning. What are your frameworks? Have you been thinking about that? What are the things that you teach? That you know how to do. The results that you know how to get for people. Start thinking about those and start developing them and start figuring them out and then make different versions of it. There's the 30 day challenge version. There's the book version. There's, there's a million ways to package it, structure it in a way that's going to help your dream clients get results.

So anyway, that's all I got for this morning. Let me go back to finish preparing this. If you haven't done the One Funnel Away Challenge, you probably should do it. It's amazing. It was a hundred bucks and you get me live 20 days in a row. Plus you, well live this first version. You'll get the recordings if you sign up later, but it's still going to be worth it. Every day I stream a live presentation and I teach the strategy and then I give you the homework. I give you a one pager showing the tactics with homework assignments and things like that. And it's a lot of fun. Anyway, I hope that helps. Appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. And we'll see you guys soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 603 no Most Popular Podcast of 2020 - How To Shortcut Success https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/most-popular-podcast-of-2020-how-to-shortcut-success What a year 2020 was! It was definitely a crazy, eventful year. Here is a replay of our most popular episode from all of 2020! If you haven’t heard it yet, tune in and see what all the fuss is about! If you have already listened to this episode, feel free to share it with a friend! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about shortcuts. Okay so, I don’t know, if you follow me on Instagram you’ve probably seen the pieces of it, but I’ve been slightly cracking over the last 5 or 6 weeks because the load has been heavy, like insanely heavy. In fact, 6 weeks ago I made a list of all the stuff I have to do and I was just like, ‘I don’t think this is possible.” And couple of nights I couldn’t sleep, I was up until like 4 or 5 in the morning because I couldn’t fall asleep because I stressed about it. Which then made it worse because the next day I couldn’t even function, I was tired and losing days and it was just like, ugh. Anyway, but I’m at the end. I’m at the last week. And in a week from now I’m going to be on vacation for like 2 weeks with my family and just unplug and (breathes deeply) catching a breath of fresh air. But it’s been heavy. And it’s interesting because yesterday, well, this weekend my sister came into town, which has been so much, her whole family.  So it’s like, I hate, I don’t want to ever be the person who misses the party because of work. So I’m like, ‘I have to be part of the party.” So I’m doing all this stuff and making sure I’m not, that I’m there. And yesterday, my daughter, it’s not her birthday yet, but they all went to roaring springs, which is a big water park here, for her birthday. So I’m like, “I can’t miss that.” So I ended up waking up at like 5 in the morning and worked from 5 til noon, getting basically a whole full work day in. Then I took off, went with them to Roaring Springs until like 8 o’clock at night we got back. And then I worked from 8 until like 2:30 in the morning. So I worked like 2 shifts that day, plus the shift with the kids. So sleep is like, basically I’m like, ‘I gotta get rid of something, the only thing I can get rid of is sleep. I’m not getting rid of fun, I’m not getting rid of family, I’m not getting rid of projects. I’m going to pull out sleep and just get rid of it.” which you can’t do for too long. Anyway, now it’s Tuesday so I got Tuesday and Wednesday for me to go and getting all the new coaching modules that are going to be launching next week. I have to get those all done, then plus I have a 3 day event, which is a virtual event, which means I’m the only one there speaking. So I’ve got a dozen or so presentations or so that I’m working on there, needless to say it is a lot. The burden is heavy. But the good news is it’s almost the end. The end of this week I’m going to be able to unplug and just be like, (breathes). So what I want to talk about though, is shortcuts. Because in the process of this, as I’m moving forward as fast as I can to get all these things done, I have to look for shortcuts, because there’s no way to get everything done. It’s impossible. So you have to look for shortcuts. So one of the nice things that I like about this whole, I don’t know maybe it’s bad, but for me, I try to get everything, I don’t pre…..not that I don’t pre-plan, I just, it’s like, just in time production. Like, everything will get done just in time. It doesn’t get done early ever. It never has in my entire life. I never got homework done until the minute it was due. I never got projects done, because if it’s like, if I plan it too far in advance then I have all this time to think, and then , I don’t know, the greatness comes when you’re under pressure and stressed, and you start discovering these shortcuts. So yesterday, we got back from the water park, I’m sitting there, it’s like 8 o’clock, almost 8 o’clock at night, I’m about to start working on the modules again. I’m just like, “I’m not going to get this done in time.” And I’m thinking, “how can I shortcut this? How can I shorten this?” I’m looking for the shortcut right. And then it appeared. And the shortcut in this situation was, “Who’s products, who’s content, who’s courses could I license to shortcut what I’m doing?” And all the sudden I was like, “Oh my gosh.” There was this module I had to create and it probably would have, I mean realistically it would take about a week to create the whole thing. And it would have been good, but I don’t know if it could have been great. And I was like, “Oh my gosh, there’s someone in our community who creates something that’s great. Can I shortcut, I wonder if she’d be willing to let me license it?” So I called her up through Voxer, I’m like, “Hey, I need a quick favor. Would you be willing to license me your entire course?” and within about 15 minutes we figured out a deal and a structure and today I’m wiring her money and she’s sending me her course, and I’m going to be plugging that into the training to fill this gap. And what’s crazy is it just shortcutted me a week. I just bought myself a week back that I would have had to figure out somewhere, like on the boat in Lake Powell. That wouldn’t have worked. Anyway, but I bought myself a week back. And the reality is what she created was so much better than what I had created. Like it’s already, man, I’m looking at the stuff that she’s sending over and I’m like, “This is way better than what I would have done.” She’s so much more detail oriented and everything is more thought through. But it was just a shortcut. It was a shortcut that saved me a week worth of time, it saved me so much stress and anxiety, and then it actually turned out better than if I would have done it myself. So it got me thinking like, where else can I shortcut things? I’m looking at now everything I’m doing right now in this window. I’m like, what can I not do? What can I give someone else? What’s the things? Where can I shortcut things? So for me it was licensing a course, and licensing content. And then this morning I licensed 3 other people. I’m like, “Hey, you’ve got something like this, do you have any product I can license? Or a course or a thing I can license? I gotta teach this concept but you know better than I do. Can I license it?” and people are sending me stuff, and I’m speeding up my process. Anyway, I want to share this because I had this conversation with Todd who, those who don’t know Todd Dickerson, he’s my business partner at Clickfunnels, he’s a dude who built the original Clickfunnels. He’s a genius. Literally the smartest person I’ve ever met. Don’t tell him that because his head will get bigger. No, he’s like literally the smartest person I’ve ever met in my life. And it’s funny because we were talking about him and other developers and things like that, and he said, he told me, “The thing that makes me the best of developers is because I’m so lazy.” I’m like, “What? Dude you are not lazy. You are the hardest worker.” He’s like, “I know I’m a hard worker,” but he’s like, “The reason why I’m such a good developer and I get things done so fast is because I look at everything and I’m like, oh I can do this and there’s a 6 month version and I could do this and it could get done in 6 months.  But is there a way I can get this done in 2 days instead?” And that’s the thought he always looks at. “Instead of me coding the whole thing from scratch, if I borrow this here and this here, and then get these libraries…” I don’t know, this is all coding talk I don’t understand, “then I could get done in 2 days versus 6 months. Maybe I’d have to not do these 4 or 5 features, but it’s done in 2 days versus 6 months.” And it’s funny because he’s trained our development team to start thinking that way. In fact, Ryan Montgomery who was our CTO for a long time, that was always the joke for him, it’s like, ‘When you look at problem you’re like, okay this is going to take me 6 months. Then go get your Todd hat, put your Todd hat on, and think what would Todd do? And Todd would be like, “I wouldn’t do it that way. I would just shortcut here, here, and here and get it done in 2 days as opposed to 6 months.” So that’s the joke. Put your Todd hat on before you come back. That’s good, now put your Todd hat on and re-evaluate and come back with a shorter timeline right. So I’m thinking about that now and it’s like, I just basically put my Todd hat on right, to shortcut these modules and things I’m doing that weren’t realistic for me to get done in time. And now it’s like, I just bought myself a week, I’m moving forward quickly now. And it’s exciting. So I want you to start looking at your projects that way, and a lot of times there’s shortcut. A lot of times there’s a way you could do something faster. You could be licensing someone’s product, you hiring somebody. It could be like a million different things, but what’s the shortcut you can do today that gets you there faster? Put your Todd hat on and figure out how to get the shortcut. So I wanted to share that today because by putting my Todd hat on today I saved myself at least a weeks worth of work, made the product better, and everyone’s happy. The person I licensed the product from is ecstatic, they got a ton of money, and they’re going to get all this credibility because they’re in our product. I got to save myself time and effort. Our customers are going to win because they got a better product when all is said and done. And it’ll all get done faster because I looked for the shortcut. So there you go, there’s the thought for today I wanted to drop on you guys as you’re doing your projects and figuring out what is the shortcut. Putting your Todd hat on and figuring out the shortcut. With that said, thank you guys so much for everything and hopefully you’re moving forward on your projects and getting back to changing the world in your own little way. And with that said, I will talk to you guys all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:00:00 -0000 Most Popular Podcast of 2020 - How To Shortcut Success full 378 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What a year 2020 was! It was definitely a crazy, eventful year. Here is a replay of our most popular episode from all of 2020! If you haven’t heard it yet, tune in and see what all the fuss is about! If you have already listened to this episode,... What a year 2020 was! It was definitely a crazy, eventful year. Here is a replay of our most popular episode from all of 2020! If you haven’t heard it yet, tune in and see what all the fuss is about! If you have already listened to this episode, feel free to share it with a friend! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about shortcuts. Okay so, I don’t know, if you follow me on Instagram you’ve probably seen the pieces of it, but I’ve been slightly cracking over the last 5 or 6 weeks because the load has been heavy, like insanely heavy. In fact, 6 weeks ago I made a list of all the stuff I have to do and I was just like, ‘I don’t think this is possible.” And couple of nights I couldn’t sleep, I was up until like 4 or 5 in the morning because I couldn’t fall asleep because I stressed about it. Which then made it worse because the next day I couldn’t even function, I was tired and losing days and it was just like, ugh. Anyway, but I’m at the end. I’m at the last week. And in a week from now I’m going to be on vacation for like 2 weeks with my family and just unplug and (breathes deeply) catching a breath of fresh air. But it’s been heavy. And it’s interesting because yesterday, well, this weekend my sister came into town, which has been so much, her whole family.  So it’s like, I hate, I don’t want to ever be the person who misses the party because of work. So I’m like, ‘I have to be part of the party.” So I’m doing all this stuff and making sure I’m not, that I’m there. And yesterday, my daughter, it’s not her birthday yet, but they all went to roaring springs, which is a big water park here, for her birthday. So I’m like, “I can’t miss that.” So I ended up waking up at like 5 in the morning and worked from 5 til noon, getting basically a whole full work day in. Then I took off, went with them to Roaring Springs until like 8 o’clock at night we got back. And then I worked from 8 until like 2:30 in the morning. So I worked like 2 shifts that day, plus the shift with the kids. So sleep is like, basically I’m like, ‘I gotta get rid of something, the only thing I can get rid of is sleep. I’m not getting rid of fun, I’m not getting rid of family, I’m not getting rid of projects. I’m going to pull out sleep and just get rid of it.” which you can’t do for too long. Anyway, now it’s Tuesday so I got Tuesday and Wednesday for me to go and getting all the new coaching modules that are going to be launching next week. I have to get those all done, then plus I have a 3 day event, which is a virtual event, which means I’m the only one there speaking. So I’ve got a dozen or so presentations or so that I’m working on there, needless to say it is a lot. The burden is heavy. But the good news is it’s almost the end. The end of this week I’m going to be able to unplug and just be like, (breathes). So what I want to talk about though, is shortcuts. Because in the process of this, as I’m moving forward as fast as I can to get all these things done, I have to look for shortcuts, because there’s no way to get everything done. It’s impossible. So you have to look for shortcuts. So one of the nice things that I like about this whole, I don’t know maybe it’s bad, but for me, I try to get everything, I don’t pre…..not that I don’t pre-plan, I just, it’s like, just in time production. Like, everything will get done just in time. It doesn’t get done early ever. It never has in my entire life. I never got homework done until the minute it was due. I never got projects done, because if it’s like, if I plan it too far in advance then I have all this time to think, and then , I don’t know, the greatness comes when you’re under pressure and stressed, and you start discovering these shortcuts. So yesterday, we got back from the water park, I’m sitting there, it’s like 8 o’clock, almost 8 o’clock at night, I’m about to start working on the modules again. I’m just like, “I’m not going to get this done in time.” And I’m thinking, “how can I shortcut this? How can I shorten this?” I’m looking for the shortcut right. And then it appeared. And the shortcut in this situation was, “Who’s products, who’s content, who’s courses could I license to shortcut what I’m doing?” And all the sudden I was like, “Oh my gosh.” There was this module I had to create and it probably would have, I mean realistically it would take about a week to create the whole thing. And it would have been good, but I don’t know if it could have been great. And I was like, “Oh my gosh, there’s someone in our community who creates something that’s great. Can I shortcut, I wonder if she’d be willing to let me license it?” So I called her up through Voxer, I’m like, “Hey, I need a quick favor. Would you be willing to license me your entire course?” and within about 15 minutes we figured out a deal and a structure and today I’m wiring her money and she’s sending me her course, and I’m going to be plugging that into the training to fill this gap. And what’s crazy is it just shortcutted me a week. I just bought myself a week back that I would have had to figure out somewhere, like on the boat in Lake Powell. That wouldn’t have worked. Anyway, but I bought myself a week back. And the reality is what she created was so much better than what I had created. Like it’s already, man, I’m looking at the stuff that she’s sending over and I’m like, “This is way better than what I would have done.” She’s so much more detail oriented and everything is more thought through. But it was just a shortcut. It was a shortcut that saved me a week worth of time, it saved me so much stress and anxiety, and then it actually turned out better than if I would have done it myself. So it got me thinking like, where else can I shortcut things? I’m looking at now everything I’m doing right now in this window. I’m like, what can I not do? What can I give someone else? What’s the things? Where can I shortcut things? So for me it was licensing a course, and licensing content. And then this morning I licensed 3 other people. I’m like, “Hey, you’ve got something like this, do you have any product I can license? Or a course or a thing I can license? I gotta teach this concept but you know better than I do. Can I license it?” and people are sending me stuff, and I’m speeding up my process. Anyway, I want to share this because I had this conversation with Todd who, those who don’t know Todd Dickerson, he’s my business partner at Clickfunnels, he’s a dude who built the original Clickfunnels. He’s a genius. Literally the smartest person I’ve ever met. Don’t tell him that because his head will get bigger. No, he’s like literally the smartest person I’ve ever met in my life. And it’s funny because we were talking about him and other developers and things like that, and he said, he told me, “The thing that makes me the best of developers is because I’m so lazy.” I’m like, “What? Dude you are not lazy. You are the hardest worker.” He’s like, “I know I’m a hard worker,” but he’s like, “The reason why I’m such a good developer and I get things done so fast is because I look at everything and I’m like, oh I can do this and there’s a 6 month version and I could do this and it could get done in 6 months.  But is there a way I can get this done in 2 days instead?” And that’s the thought he always looks at. “Instead of me coding the whole thing from scratch, if I borrow this here and this here, and then get these libraries…” I don’t know, this is all coding talk I don’t understand, “then I could get done in 2 days versus 6 months. Maybe I’d have to not do these 4 or 5 features, but it’s done in 2 days versus 6 months.” And it’s funny because he’s trained our development team to start thinking that way. In fact, Ryan Montgomery who was our CTO for a long time, that was always the joke for him, it’s like, ‘When you look at problem you’re like, okay this is going to take me 6 months. Then go get your Todd hat, put your Todd hat on, and think what would Todd do? And Todd would be like, “I wouldn’t do it that way. I would just shortcut here, here, and here and get it done in 2 days as opposed to 6 months.” So that’s the joke. Put your Todd hat on before you come back. That’s good, now put your Todd hat on and re-evaluate and come back with a shorter timeline right. So I’m thinking about that now and it’s like, I just basically put my Todd hat on right, to shortcut these modules and things I’m doing that weren’t realistic for me to get done in time. And now it’s like, I just bought myself a week, I’m moving forward quickly now. And it’s exciting. So I want you to start looking at your projects that way, and a lot of times there’s shortcut. A lot of times there’s a way you could do something faster. You could be licensing someone’s product, you hiring somebody. It could be like a million different things, but what’s the shortcut you can do today that gets you there faster? Put your Todd hat on and figure out how to get the shortcut. So I wanted to share that today because by putting my Todd hat on today I saved myself at least a weeks worth of work, made the product better, and everyone’s happy. The person I licensed the product from is ecstatic, they got a ton of money, and they’re going to get all this credibility because they’re in our product. I got to save myself time and effort. Our customers are going to win because they got a better product when all is said and done. And it’ll all get done faster because I looked for the shortcut. So there you go, there’s the thought for today I wanted to drop on you guys as you’re doing your projects and figuring out what is the shortcut. Putting your Todd hat on and figuring out the shortcut. With that said, thank you guys so much for everything and hopefully you’re moving forward on your projects and getting back to changing the world in your own little way. And with that said, I will talk to you guys all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What a year 2020 was! It was definitely a crazy, eventful year. Here is a replay of our most popular episode from all of 2020! If you haven’t heard it yet, tune in and see what all the fuss is about! If you have already listened to this episode, feel free to share it with a friend!

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Hey, what’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about shortcuts.

Okay so, I don’t know, if you follow me on Instagram you’ve probably seen the pieces of it, but I’ve been slightly cracking over the last 5 or 6 weeks because the load has been heavy, like insanely heavy. In fact, 6 weeks ago I made a list of all the stuff I have to do and I was just like, ‘I don’t think this is possible.” And couple of nights I couldn’t sleep, I was up until like 4 or 5 in the morning because I couldn’t fall asleep because I stressed about it. Which then made it worse because the next day I couldn’t even function, I was tired and losing days and it was just like, ugh.

Anyway, but I’m at the end. I’m at the last week. And in a week from now I’m going to be on vacation for like 2 weeks with my family and just unplug and (breathes deeply) catching a breath of fresh air. But it’s been heavy. And it’s interesting because yesterday, well, this weekend my sister came into town, which has been so much, her whole family.

 So it’s like, I hate, I don’t want to ever be the person who misses the party because of work. So I’m like, ‘I have to be part of the party.” So I’m doing all this stuff and making sure I’m not, that I’m there. And yesterday, my daughter, it’s not her birthday yet, but they all went to roaring springs, which is a big water park here, for her birthday. So I’m like, “I can’t miss that.” So I ended up waking up at like 5 in the morning and worked from 5 til noon, getting basically a whole full work day in. Then I took off, went with them to Roaring Springs until like 8 o’clock at night we got back. And then I worked from 8 until like 2:30 in the morning. So I worked like 2 shifts that day, plus the shift with the kids.

So sleep is like, basically I’m like, ‘I gotta get rid of something, the only thing I can get rid of is sleep. I’m not getting rid of fun, I’m not getting rid of family, I’m not getting rid of projects. I’m going to pull out sleep and just get rid of it.” which you can’t do for too long.

Anyway, now it’s Tuesday so I got Tuesday and Wednesday for me to go and getting all the new coaching modules that are going to be launching next week. I have to get those all done, then plus I have a 3 day event, which is a virtual event, which means I’m the only one there speaking. So I’ve got a dozen or so presentations or so that I’m working on there, needless to say it is a lot. The burden is heavy. But the good news is it’s almost the end. The end of this week I’m going to be able to unplug and just be like, (breathes).

So what I want to talk about though, is shortcuts. Because in the process of this, as I’m moving forward as fast as I can to get all these things done, I have to look for shortcuts, because there’s no way to get everything done. It’s impossible. So you have to look for shortcuts.

So one of the nice things that I like about this whole, I don’t know maybe it’s bad, but for me, I try to get everything, I don’t pre…..not that I don’t pre-plan, I just, it’s like, just in time production. Like, everything will get done just in time. It doesn’t get done early ever. It never has in my entire life. I never got homework done until the minute it was due. I never got projects done, because if it’s like, if I plan it too far in advance then I have all this time to think, and then , I don’t know, the greatness comes when you’re under pressure and stressed, and you start discovering these shortcuts.

So yesterday, we got back from the water park, I’m sitting there, it’s like 8 o’clock, almost 8 o’clock at night, I’m about to start working on the modules again. I’m just like, “I’m not going to get this done in time.” And I’m thinking, “how can I shortcut this? How can I shorten this?” I’m looking for the shortcut right. And then it appeared. And the shortcut in this situation was, “Who’s products, who’s content, who’s courses could I license to shortcut what I’m doing?”

And all the sudden I was like, “Oh my gosh.” There was this module I had to create and it probably would have, I mean realistically it would take about a week to create the whole thing. And it would have been good, but I don’t know if it could have been great. And I was like, “Oh my gosh, there’s someone in our community who creates something that’s great. Can I shortcut, I wonder if she’d be willing to let me license it?”

So I called her up through Voxer, I’m like, “Hey, I need a quick favor. Would you be willing to license me your entire course?” and within about 15 minutes we figured out a deal and a structure and today I’m wiring her money and she’s sending me her course, and I’m going to be plugging that into the training to fill this gap.

And what’s crazy is it just shortcutted me a week. I just bought myself a week back that I would have had to figure out somewhere, like on the boat in Lake Powell. That wouldn’t have worked. Anyway, but I bought myself a week back. And the reality is what she created was so much better than what I had created. Like it’s already, man, I’m looking at the stuff that she’s sending over and I’m like, “This is way better than what I would have done.” She’s so much more detail oriented and everything is more thought through. But it was just a shortcut. It was a shortcut that saved me a week worth of time, it saved me so much stress and anxiety, and then it actually turned out better than if I would have done it myself.

So it got me thinking like, where else can I shortcut things? I’m looking at now everything I’m doing right now in this window. I’m like, what can I not do? What can I give someone else? What’s the things? Where can I shortcut things? So for me it was licensing a course, and licensing content. And then this morning I licensed 3 other people. I’m like, “Hey, you’ve got something like this, do you have any product I can license? Or a course or a thing I can license? I gotta teach this concept but you know better than I do. Can I license it?” and people are sending me stuff, and I’m speeding up my process.

Anyway, I want to share this because I had this conversation with Todd who, those who don’t know Todd Dickerson, he’s my business partner at Clickfunnels, he’s a dude who built the original Clickfunnels. He’s a genius. Literally the smartest person I’ve ever met. Don’t tell him that because his head will get bigger. No, he’s like literally the smartest person I’ve ever met in my life.

And it’s funny because we were talking about him and other developers and things like that, and he said, he told me, “The thing that makes me the best of developers is because I’m so lazy.” I’m like, “What? Dude you are not lazy. You are the hardest worker.” He’s like, “I know I’m a hard worker,” but he’s like, “The reason why I’m such a good developer and I get things done so fast is because I look at everything and I’m like, oh I can do this and there’s a 6 month version and I could do this and it could get done in 6 months.  But is there a way I can get this done in 2 days instead?” And that’s the thought he always looks at. “Instead of me coding the whole thing from scratch, if I borrow this here and this here, and then get these libraries…” I don’t know, this is all coding talk I don’t understand, “then I could get done in 2 days versus 6 months. Maybe I’d have to not do these 4 or 5 features, but it’s done in 2 days versus 6 months.”

And it’s funny because he’s trained our development team to start thinking that way. In fact, Ryan Montgomery who was our CTO for a long time, that was always the joke for him, it’s like, ‘When you look at problem you’re like, okay this is going to take me 6 months. Then go get your Todd hat, put your Todd hat on, and think what would Todd do? And Todd would be like, “I wouldn’t do it that way. I would just shortcut here, here, and here and get it done in 2 days as opposed to 6 months.”

So that’s the joke. Put your Todd hat on before you come back. That’s good, now put your Todd hat on and re-evaluate and come back with a shorter timeline right. So I’m thinking about that now and it’s like, I just basically put my Todd hat on right, to shortcut these modules and things I’m doing that weren’t realistic for me to get done in time. And now it’s like, I just bought myself a week, I’m moving forward quickly now. And it’s exciting.

So I want you to start looking at your projects that way, and a lot of times there’s shortcut. A lot of times there’s a way you could do something faster. You could be licensing someone’s product, you hiring somebody. It could be like a million different things, but what’s the shortcut you can do today that gets you there faster? Put your Todd hat on and figure out how to get the shortcut.

So I wanted to share that today because by putting my Todd hat on today I saved myself at least a weeks worth of work, made the product better, and everyone’s happy. The person I licensed the product from is ecstatic, they got a ton of money, and they’re going to get all this credibility because they’re in our product. I got to save myself time and effort. Our customers are going to win because they got a better product when all is said and done. And it’ll all get done faster because I looked for the shortcut.

So there you go, there’s the thought for today I wanted to drop on you guys as you’re doing your projects and figuring out what is the shortcut. Putting your Todd hat on and figuring out the shortcut. With that said, thank you guys so much for everything and hopefully you’re moving forward on your projects and getting back to changing the world in your own little way. And with that said, I will talk to you guys all soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 575 no HOLY CRAP... Did You See The Five Day Lead Challenge? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/holy-crap-did-you-see-the-five-day-lead-challenge A glimpse behind the scenes of what’s happening inside of the five day lead challenge. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. welcome back to a very late night edition of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about the five day lead challenge, the new OFA and a whole bunch of other, really, really cool things. All right, everybody. So I hope you're watching what I'm doing, even if you don't buy my stuff. That's cool. I get it. But hopefully you're watching what I'm doing. I'm trying to give you guys an education in marketing every single day. I could really, really, really easily just be done. I don't need more money. I don't need more things. Business is running, sales are happening. I'm good. But I keep doing this for a couple reasons. Number one, I love this game. It's so much fun. Right? I'm addicted to it. I'm not going to lie. I can't stop. It's really, really fun. Number two, I feel like half of my role here at ClickFunnels, if not all my role is to do things that you guys can model and have success with in your business, right? And so I want to just talk to you guys about what I'm doing right now, so you can look at it and hopefully you can model it inside of your business. Okay? A lot of you guys know that man, two and a half, three years ago, we launched our first ever One Funnel Away challenge. And hopefully most of you guys have had a chance to go through it. We've had over 70,000 people go through it. If you haven't gone through yet, go to onefunnelaway.com and join it. In fact, now's the time to join it because starting Monday. So you guys are going to be getting this on a Wednesday I believe. On Monday is the new OFA. It's the first time I updated it in two and a half years. I'm doing it live for 30 days. So if you haven't done yet now is the time, okay? But we did that. We've run it. And it's been running for a long time and it's been amazing. It's helped people build funnels, it's helped people understand, ClickFunnels, our culture, our everything. And it's been awesome. We decided this year to go back and to redo it. And as I was brainstorming and planning out, I'm like, "The one problem with the One Funnel Away challenge is that somebody has to know what a funnel is to want to do the One Funnel Away challenge." I went to my mom, I'm like, "Hey, want to do the One Funnel Away challenge?" She'd be like, "What's a funnel?" Well, my mom would know because ClickFunnels. But most people will be like, "What are you even talking about? You sound crazy." Right? And yeah, the challenge has been very successful. So I started thinking, "Okay, how to take one step back to open up our net even wider?" If people in business don't know what a funnel is, what is universal? What is the thing that people know and they understand? And for me, the thing that people know and they understand is a lead. In fact, it's interesting. I don't know if you guys all remember when we started this game five and half, six years ago, seven years ago now, whatever it was. Our big competitor was a site. It was a company called Lead Pages. And I used to tease them and have fun with it because they created pages that in fact, it was a funny story. The very first marketing that we ever went to, the two sponsors were ClickFunnels and lead pages. And it was this little tiny hallway and they had their booth there and we had a booth right across. And then funny about this is Todd's wife, Ashley was... It was just basically me, Todd Dylan, a handful of people. And Todd's wife was at this event. And we made these big, huge signs that had a fun landing page, order form, thank you page, upsell, downsells, membership site. And just a really cool little like banner. And then on top it said, "Can your landing page software do this?" And so we're literally three feet away from their booth across this little tiny hall and they're like, "Landing page software." And then ours is, "Can your landing pages offer do that?" We had t-shirts that had it. It was awesome. Okay? And it's funny, because for me, when I first got in the game, I'm like, "Hey, people use lead pages to generate leads." And then they come to us because they've realized that then they need more just leads. They need a funnel. And it was funny because I had somebody one time asked me like, "Why do you hate Lead Pages so much?" I'm like, "I don't hate Lead Pages. Lead Pages is literally the best front end out there in the market for us. They're one step ahead, one step earlier in the conversation to a customer." I have to explain to you what a funnel is and all these sorts of things. And so you go one step backwards to a lead, it was like every business knows what a lead is. There's no company online in the world that offline, online that doesn't know what a lead is. And so Lead Pages did great because it was so simple. Like, "Wait, you need leads?" "Yeah." "Get a lead page." "Okay." And people did it. And then we came in saying, "Hey, leads are good, but do you want to sell something? Okay, here's the funnel." And so they were our best lead source back when they were growing. They haven't grown in years, but for a long time, I loved it. So I was thinking about this. I'm like, "One Funnel Away challenge is awesome, but how do we go broader to cast a net that's even bigger?" And so I started thinking about Lead Pages. I was like, "Well, we should do a lead challenge and build a very simple lead funnel, a two-page lead funnel. Show them how to build a lead magnet, a lead funnel an email sequence, and then drive traffic." And so that's when this whole concept of the five day lead challenge was born. Okay? And the five day lead challenge is free. In fact, a lot of you guys are probably in it right now. I think by the time this comes out, it'll be day three of the live lead five day lead challenge. And I'm doing this challenge for free and it's live this first time around. And I'm doing it. And what's crazy is when we launched this thing about 30 seconds before I stepped on stage, we refreshed the stats we just passed 35,000 people that had registered for it. And so far of all the things I've ever done, that's the most people that have ever registered for anything I've ever done. So the numbers are insane. Now obviously ClickFunnels has a lot of momentum now, as we always do, which is exciting, but also it's something that everybody can grasp, like leads. I need leads. I don't care if you're network marketer, internet marketer, chiropractor, doctor, dentist, you need leads. And so the lead challenge made sense. It was broader challenge. But also notice this is a free challenge. One Funnel Away challenge costs a $100 for somebody to go through. Where this one's completely free. So it's cast a bigger net. It's free. They come in. They go through this five day process. And in the process, we help them to figure out to understand here's what a basic funnel looks like. Here's how to build a lead magnet. Here's how to put these pieces in place. And the end of the five day challenge, then we're going to invite people to take the next challenge, which is the One Funnel Away challenge. And the new version of the One Funnel Away challenge I'm really excited for. It's brand new from the ground up. If you've done it in the past, you should do it again because this is completely different. It's me teaching it live every day for 30 days. And we're building a very certain, very specific type of sales funnel. One that I love. One that I use a lot. And that's where we'd be teaching, excuse me, teaching everybody how to use. And so I wanted to share it with you guys for a couple reasons. What's your version of the five day lead challenge? Obviously whatever you're selling, there's probably some sub market or say sub something, right? You're targeting certain people, but what's one step back? How can you cast that net a little bit bigger? And then can you do a challenge that's free, that's five days, that gets the cast the net in? They could bring somebody in and at the end of it, then you introduce them to the core thing you're trying to sell. As someone goes through the five day lead challenge, by the time they're done, they know what a funnel is. They know what a lead magnet is. They know what a framework is. They know what a lot of these core things are. Now they're ready for the One Funnel Away challenge. Whereas now we get people who try to come to One Funnel Away challenges. It's confusing. What is a funnel? What is this thing? And we're kind of starting before a lot of them are ready. And so that's what's happening. Anyway, I don't know if you've been watching the five-year lead challenge we got some really cool things. One of the original co-founders of ClickFunnels, his name's Dylan Jones. He's the one who built the original ClickFunnels editor. He came out of his semi-retirement and just built a new product called Onepager. And so I've been using Onepager in the trainings, have you guys noticed it? Every day, I teach a strategy live and then I give them a Onepager. And on Onepager is a video that shows the tactics. Because the tactics are hard to teach live in front of everyone. Like "Here, let me show you how to actually do the steps." It's really hard. So I teach the strategy live. I do it on whiteboard. They're like, "Oh, that's cool. I see the strategy. I understand what I'm doing." And I send the Onepager. The Onepager has a video. It's the tactical, let me show you me doing the thing. And then the Onepager lets them have forms and checklists, so they can actually make sure they do everything you're saying. It's really, really cool. And so what's awesome too, is I'm launching that new company, Onepager.io with Dylan. And day number two in the challenge we're teaching people how to build lead magnets with Onepager. Like I'm using now, I'm trying to get them using it. And so in the process of us creating this challenge, it's really cool because we're able to make money on a lot of different things. We make money when somebody buys Onepager in the future. We make money if somebody buys ClickFunnels. We make money if they sign up for the One Funnel Away challenge. And so by doing these challenges, you can introduce people to different products or services or things you sell. If you're a health person do a weight loss challenge and introduce them to your weight loss shake, and then your workout plans. You can introduce people to different things. Jim Edwards built a whole bunch of really cool scripts for people in the five day lead challenge that we're giving them for free to help them with every single step the copy they need in every single page. What's going to happen is people usually get excited by it. Like, "This is awesome." And then they're probably going to upgrade to FunnelScripts. So this free challenge is really cool because it teaches people, it gives them a result. By the end of the five days, everybody will have a lead magnet, they'll have a funnel. They'll have an email sequence and traffic coming into that funnel. But in the interim, they've had a chance to test all of our products and our services and try them out, see how they work. So what's your equivalent of the five day lead challenge? What could you do? What's something to cast a big net? What's something that introduces people to your core products and your services? What's something that when someone completes the challenge, they leave with a tangible result? Not just like, "You're going to learn how to blah, blah, blah." It's like, "No, when you leave, this will be done. This will be finished." I want to give somebody a tangible so when they're done they're like, "Oh my gosh, I did this five day thing with Russell and I have a funnel, I have a lead magnet, have an email sequence. I need to do the, One Funnel Away challenge because I want to build a sales funnel. Let's go to the next step." if I can give them that result, they're more likely to come and do the next thing. So anyway, I just want to share with you because I'm in the middle of it. I literally just finished recording all the tactic videos a few seconds ago for the Onepagers for the rest of the funnel. And had some energy. I was excited and I thought I'm going to just kind of share this with you guys. But if you haven't seen it yet, go experience it. Funnel hack me. Even if you're like, "I know how to generate leads Russ." Like, "Cool. I don't care." Come follow the process. Half of what I'm doing is for you to model the process. Go to fivedayleadchallenge.com. The number five day lead challenge.com and go join it. Okay? By Friday of this week, when we finished the live, live version, it'll be an evergreen version and we will be driving leads there for forever. My goals in the next year to have over a million people go through the five day lead challenge, right? If I do that, if I get 10% to go to OFA, that's an extra 100 000 people through OFA. How many people does that bring to ClickFunnels? How many people does it to bring into Onepager? How many people does it bring into FunnelScripts? How many people does is it bringing to my world? How many books do I sell? All by doing this challenge on the front end. So anyway, look at it, model it for your business. Figure out how to replicate that concept and see what happens. And let me know how it goes. Thanks you guys so much for hanging out. I appreciate you all. Hopefully you got some guidance from this one. If you did, please go to Instagram, Facebook, wherever you post it, take a screenshot of this episode, tag me in it. I do see those. I do read the comments and it's so much fun to kind of see the takeaways you guys are getting from them. With that said, thanks for listening. I appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:00:00 -0000 HOLY CRAP... Did You See The Five Day Lead Challenge? full 377 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A glimpse behind the scenes of what’s happening inside of the five day lead challenge. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. welcome back to... A glimpse behind the scenes of what’s happening inside of the five day lead challenge. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. welcome back to a very late night edition of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about the five day lead challenge, the new OFA and a whole bunch of other, really, really cool things. All right, everybody. So I hope you're watching what I'm doing, even if you don't buy my stuff. That's cool. I get it. But hopefully you're watching what I'm doing. I'm trying to give you guys an education in marketing every single day. I could really, really, really easily just be done. I don't need more money. I don't need more things. Business is running, sales are happening. I'm good. But I keep doing this for a couple reasons. Number one, I love this game. It's so much fun. Right? I'm addicted to it. I'm not going to lie. I can't stop. It's really, really fun. Number two, I feel like half of my role here at ClickFunnels, if not all my role is to do things that you guys can model and have success with in your business, right? And so I want to just talk to you guys about what I'm doing right now, so you can look at it and hopefully you can model it inside of your business. Okay? A lot of you guys know that man, two and a half, three years ago, we launched our first ever One Funnel Away challenge. And hopefully most of you guys have had a chance to go through it. We've had over 70,000 people go through it. If you haven't gone through yet, go to onefunnelaway.com and join it. In fact, now's the time to join it because starting Monday. So you guys are going to be getting this on a Wednesday I believe. On Monday is the new OFA. It's the first time I updated it in two and a half years. I'm doing it live for 30 days. So if you haven't done yet now is the time, okay? But we did that. We've run it. And it's been running for a long time and it's been amazing. It's helped people build funnels, it's helped people understand, ClickFunnels, our culture, our everything. And it's been awesome. We decided this year to go back and to redo it. And as I was brainstorming and planning out, I'm like, "The one problem with the One Funnel Away challenge is that somebody has to know what a funnel is to want to do the One Funnel Away challenge." I went to my mom, I'm like, "Hey, want to do the One Funnel Away challenge?" She'd be like, "What's a funnel?" Well, my mom would know because ClickFunnels. But most people will be like, "What are you even talking about? You sound crazy." Right? And yeah, the challenge has been very successful. So I started thinking, "Okay, how to take one step back to open up our net even wider?" If people in business don't know what a funnel is, what is universal? What is the thing that people know and they understand? And for me, the thing that people know and they understand is a lead. In fact, it's interesting. I don't know if you guys all remember when we started this game five and half, six years ago, seven years ago now, whatever it was. Our big competitor was a site. It was a company called Lead Pages. And I used to tease them and have fun with it because they created pages that in fact, it was a funny story. The very first marketing that we ever went to, the two sponsors were ClickFunnels and lead pages. And it was this little tiny hallway and they had their booth there and we had a booth right across. And then funny about this is Todd's wife, Ashley was... It was just basically me, Todd Dylan, a handful of people. And Todd's wife was at this event. And we made these big, huge signs that had a fun landing page, order form, thank you page, upsell, downsells, membership site. And just a really cool little like banner. And then on top it said, "Can your landing page software do this?" And so we're literally three feet away from their booth across this little tiny hall and they're like, "Landing page software." And then ours is, "Can your landing pages offer do that?" We had t-shirts that had it. It was awesome. Okay? And it's funny, because for me, when I first got in the game, I'm like, "Hey, people use lead pages to generate leads." And then they come to us because they've realized that then they need more just leads. They need a funnel. And it was funny because I had somebody one time asked me like, "Why do you hate Lead Pages so much?" I'm like, "I don't hate Lead Pages. Lead Pages is literally the best front end out there in the market for us. They're one step ahead, one step earlier in the conversation to a customer." I have to explain to you what a funnel is and all these sorts of things. And so you go one step backwards to a lead, it was like every business knows what a lead is. There's no company online in the world that offline, online that doesn't know what a lead is. And so Lead Pages did great because it was so simple. Like, "Wait, you need leads?" "Yeah." "Get a lead page." "Okay." And people did it. And then we came in saying, "Hey, leads are good, but do you want to sell something? Okay, here's the funnel." And so they were our best lead source back when they were growing. They haven't grown in years, but for a long time, I loved it. So I was thinking about this. I'm like, "One Funnel Away challenge is awesome, but how do we go broader to cast a net that's even bigger?" And so I started thinking about Lead Pages. I was like, "Well, we should do a lead challenge and build a very simple lead funnel, a two-page lead funnel. Show them how to build a lead magnet, a lead funnel an email sequence, and then drive traffic." And so that's when this whole concept of the five day lead challenge was born. Okay? And the five day lead challenge is free. In fact, a lot of you guys are probably in it right now. I think by the time this comes out, it'll be day three of the live lead five day lead challenge. And I'm doing this challenge for free and it's live this first time around. And I'm doing it. And what's crazy is when we launched this thing about 30 seconds before I stepped on stage, we refreshed the stats we just passed 35,000 people that had registered for it. And so far of all the things I've ever done, that's the most people that have ever registered for anything I've ever done. So the numbers are insane. Now obviously ClickFunnels has a lot of momentum now, as we always do, which is exciting, but also it's something that everybody can grasp, like leads. I need leads. I don't care if you're network marketer, internet marketer, chiropractor, doctor, dentist, you need leads. And so the lead challenge made sense. It was broader challenge. But also notice this is a free challenge. One Funnel Away challenge costs a $100 for somebody to go through. Where this one's completely free. So it's cast a bigger net. It's free. They come in. They go through this five day process. And in the process, we help them to figure out to understand here's what a basic funnel looks like. Here's how to build a lead magnet. Here's how to put these pieces in place. And the end of the five day challenge, then we're going to invite people to take the next challenge, which is the One Funnel Away challenge. And the new version of the One Funnel Away challenge I'm really excited for. It's brand new from the ground up. If you've done it in the past, you should do it again because this is completely different. It's me teaching it live every day for 30 days. And we're building a very certain, very specific type of sales funnel. One that I love. One that I use a lot. And that's where we'd be teaching, excuse me, teaching everybody how to use. And so I wanted to share it with you guys for a couple reasons. What's your version of the five day lead challenge? Obviously whatever you're selling, there's probably some sub market or say sub something, right? You're targeting certain people, but what's one step back? How can you cast that net a little bit bigger? And then can you do a challenge that's free, that's five days, that gets the cast the net in? They could bring somebody in and at the end of it, then you introduce them to the core thing you're trying to sell. As someone goes through the five day lead challenge, by the time they're done, they know what a funnel is. They know what a lead magnet is. They know what a framework is. They know what a lot of these core things are. Now they're ready for the One Funnel Away challenge. Whereas now we get people who try to come to One Funnel Away challenges. It's confusing. What is a funnel? What is this thing? And we're kind of starting before a lot of them are ready. And so that's what's happening. Anyway, I don't know if you've been watching the five-year lead challenge we got some really cool things. One of the original co-founders of ClickFunnels, his name's Dylan Jones. He's the one who built the original ClickFunnels editor. He came out of his semi-retirement and just built a new product called Onepager. And so I've been using Onepager in the trainings, have you guys noticed it? Every day, I teach a strategy live and then I give them a Onepager. And on Onepager is a video that shows the tactics. Because the tactics are hard to teach live in front of everyone. Like "Here, let me show you how to actually do the steps." It's really hard. So I teach the strategy live. I do it on whiteboard. They're like, "Oh, that's cool. I see the strategy. I understand what I'm doing." And I send the Onepager. The Onepager has a video. It's the tactical, let me show you me doing the thing. And then the Onepager lets them have forms and checklists, so they can actually make sure they do everything you're saying. It's really, really cool. And so what's awesome too, is I'm launching that new company, Onepager.io with Dylan. And day number two in the challenge we're teaching people how to build lead magnets with Onepager. Like I'm using now, I'm trying to get them using it. And so in the process of us creating this challenge, it's really cool because we're able to make money on a lot of different things. We make money when somebody buys Onepager in the future. We make money if somebody buys ClickFunnels. We make money if they sign up for the One Funnel Away challenge. And so by doing these challenges, you can introduce people to different products or services or things you sell. If you're a health person do a weight loss challenge and introduce them to your weight loss shake, and then your workout plans. You can introduce people to different things. Jim Edwards built a whole bunch of really cool scripts for people in the five day lead challenge that we're giving them for free to help them with every single step the copy they need in every single page. What's going to happen is people usually get excited by it. Like, "This is awesome." And then they're probably going to upgrade to FunnelScripts. So this free challenge is really cool because it teaches people, it gives them a result. By the end of the five days, everybody will have a lead magnet, they'll have a funnel. They'll have an email sequence and traffic coming into that funnel. But in the interim, they've had a chance to test all of our products and our services and try them out, see how they work. So what's your equivalent of the five day lead challenge? What could you do? What's something to cast a big net? What's something that introduces people to your core products and your services? What's something that when someone completes the challenge, they leave with a tangible result? Not just like, "You're going to learn how to blah, blah, blah." It's like, "No, when you leave, this will be done. This will be finished." I want to give somebody a tangible so when they're done they're like, "Oh my gosh, I did this five day thing with Russell and I have a funnel, I have a lead magnet, have an email sequence. I need to do the, One Funnel Away challenge because I want to build a sales funnel. Let's go to the next step." if I can give them that result, they're more likely to come and do the next thing. So anyway, I just want to share with you because I'm in the middle of it. I literally just finished recording all the tactic videos a few seconds ago for the Onepagers for the rest of the funnel. And had some energy. I was excited and I thought I'm going to just kind of share this with you guys. But if you haven't seen it yet, go experience it. Funnel hack me. Even if you're like, "I know how to generate leads Russ." Like, "Cool. I don't care." Come follow the process. Half of what I'm doing is for you to model the process. Go to fivedayleadchallenge.com. The number five day lead challenge.com and go join it. Okay? By Friday of this week, when we finished the live, live version, it'll be an evergreen version and we will be driving leads there for forever. My goals in the next year to have over a million people go through the five day lead challenge, right? If I do that, if I get 10% to go to OFA, that's an extra 100 000 people through OFA. How many people does that bring to ClickFunnels? How many people does it to bring into Onepager? How many people does it bring into FunnelScripts? How many people does is it bringing to my world? How many books do I sell? All by doing this challenge on the front end. So anyway, look at it, model it for your business. Figure out how to replicate that concept and see what happens. And let me know how it goes. Thanks you guys so much for hanging out. I appreciate you all. Hopefully you got some guidance from this one. If you did, please go to Instagram, Facebook, wherever you post it, take a screenshot of this episode, tag me in it. I do see those. I do read the comments and it's so much fun to kind of see the takeaways you guys are getting from them. With that said, thanks for listening. I appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A glimpse behind the scenes of what’s happening inside of the five day lead challenge.

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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. welcome back to a very late night edition of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about the five day lead challenge, the new OFA and a whole bunch of other, really, really cool things. All right, everybody. So I hope you're watching what I'm doing, even if you don't buy my stuff. That's cool. I get it. But hopefully you're watching what I'm doing. I'm trying to give you guys an education in marketing every single day. I could really, really, really easily just be done. I don't need more money. I don't need more things. Business is running, sales are happening. I'm good. But I keep doing this for a couple reasons. Number one, I love this game. It's so much fun. Right? I'm addicted to it. I'm not going to lie. I can't stop. It's really, really fun. Number two, I feel like half of my role here at ClickFunnels, if not all my role is to do things that you guys can model and have success with in your business, right?

And so I want to just talk to you guys about what I'm doing right now, so you can look at it and hopefully you can model it inside of your business. Okay? A lot of you guys know that man, two and a half, three years ago, we launched our first ever One Funnel Away challenge. And hopefully most of you guys have had a chance to go through it. We've had over 70,000 people go through it. If you haven't gone through yet, go to onefunnelaway.com and join it. In fact, now's the time to join it because starting Monday. So you guys are going to be getting this on a Wednesday I believe. On Monday is the new OFA. It's the first time I updated it in two and a half years. I'm doing it live for 30 days. So if you haven't done yet now is the time, okay?

But we did that. We've run it. And it's been running for a long time and it's been amazing. It's helped people build funnels, it's helped people understand, ClickFunnels, our culture, our everything. And it's been awesome. We decided this year to go back and to redo it. And as I was brainstorming and planning out, I'm like, "The one problem with the One Funnel Away challenge is that somebody has to know what a funnel is to want to do the One Funnel Away challenge." I went to my mom, I'm like, "Hey, want to do the One Funnel Away challenge?" She'd be like, "What's a funnel?" Well, my mom would know because ClickFunnels. But most people will be like, "What are you even talking about? You sound crazy." Right?

And yeah, the challenge has been very successful. So I started thinking, "Okay, how to take one step back to open up our net even wider?" If people in business don't know what a funnel is, what is universal? What is the thing that people know and they understand? And for me, the thing that people know and they understand is a lead. In fact, it's interesting. I don't know if you guys all remember when we started this game five and half, six years ago, seven years ago now, whatever it was. Our big competitor was a site. It was a company called Lead Pages. And I used to tease them and have fun with it because they created pages that in fact, it was a funny story.

The very first marketing that we ever went to, the two sponsors were ClickFunnels and lead pages. And it was this little tiny hallway and they had their booth there and we had a booth right across. And then funny about this is Todd's wife, Ashley was... It was just basically me, Todd Dylan, a handful of people. And Todd's wife was at this event. And we made these big, huge signs that had a fun landing page, order form, thank you page, upsell, downsells, membership site. And just a really cool little like banner. And then on top it said, "Can your landing page software do this?" And so we're literally three feet away from their booth across this little tiny hall and they're like, "Landing page software." And then ours is, "Can your landing pages offer do that?" We had t-shirts that had it. It was awesome. Okay?

And it's funny, because for me, when I first got in the game, I'm like, "Hey, people use lead pages to generate leads." And then they come to us because they've realized that then they need more just leads. They need a funnel. And it was funny because I had somebody one time asked me like, "Why do you hate Lead Pages so much?" I'm like, "I don't hate Lead Pages. Lead Pages is literally the best front end out there in the market for us. They're one step ahead, one step earlier in the conversation to a customer." I have to explain to you what a funnel is and all these sorts of things. And so you go one step backwards to a lead, it was like every business knows what a lead is. There's no company online in the world that offline, online that doesn't know what a lead is.

And so Lead Pages did great because it was so simple. Like, "Wait, you need leads?" "Yeah." "Get a lead page." "Okay." And people did it. And then we came in saying, "Hey, leads are good, but do you want to sell something? Okay, here's the funnel." And so they were our best lead source back when they were growing. They haven't grown in years, but for a long time, I loved it. So I was thinking about this. I'm like, "One Funnel Away challenge is awesome, but how do we go broader to cast a net that's even bigger?" And so I started thinking about Lead Pages. I was like, "Well, we should do a lead challenge and build a very simple lead funnel, a two-page lead funnel. Show them how to build a lead magnet, a lead funnel an email sequence, and then drive traffic."

And so that's when this whole concept of the five day lead challenge was born. Okay? And the five day lead challenge is free. In fact, a lot of you guys are probably in it right now. I think by the time this comes out, it'll be day three of the live lead five day lead challenge. And I'm doing this challenge for free and it's live this first time around. And I'm doing it. And what's crazy is when we launched this thing about 30 seconds before I stepped on stage, we refreshed the stats we just passed 35,000 people that had registered for it. And so far of all the things I've ever done, that's the most people that have ever registered for anything I've ever done. So the numbers are insane.

Now obviously ClickFunnels has a lot of momentum now, as we always do, which is exciting, but also it's something that everybody can grasp, like leads. I need leads. I don't care if you're network marketer, internet marketer, chiropractor, doctor, dentist, you need leads. And so the lead challenge made sense. It was broader challenge. But also notice this is a free challenge. One Funnel Away challenge costs a $100 for somebody to go through. Where this one's completely free. So it's cast a bigger net. It's free. They come in. They go through this five day process. And in the process, we help them to figure out to understand here's what a basic funnel looks like. Here's how to build a lead magnet. Here's how to put these pieces in place. And the end of the five day challenge, then we're going to invite people to take the next challenge, which is the One Funnel Away challenge.

And the new version of the One Funnel Away challenge I'm really excited for. It's brand new from the ground up. If you've done it in the past, you should do it again because this is completely different. It's me teaching it live every day for 30 days. And we're building a very certain, very specific type of sales funnel. One that I love. One that I use a lot. And that's where we'd be teaching, excuse me, teaching everybody how to use. And so I wanted to share it with you guys for a couple reasons. What's your version of the five day lead challenge? Obviously whatever you're selling, there's probably some sub market or say sub something, right? You're targeting certain people, but what's one step back? How can you cast that net a little bit bigger? And then can you do a challenge that's free, that's five days, that gets the cast the net in? They could bring somebody in and at the end of it, then you introduce them to the core thing you're trying to sell.

As someone goes through the five day lead challenge, by the time they're done, they know what a funnel is. They know what a lead magnet is. They know what a framework is. They know what a lot of these core things are. Now they're ready for the One Funnel Away challenge. Whereas now we get people who try to come to One Funnel Away challenges. It's confusing. What is a funnel? What is this thing? And we're kind of starting before a lot of them are ready. And so that's what's happening. Anyway, I don't know if you've been watching the five-year lead challenge we got some really cool things.

One of the original co-founders of ClickFunnels, his name's Dylan Jones. He's the one who built the original ClickFunnels editor. He came out of his semi-retirement and just built a new product called Onepager. And so I've been using Onepager in the trainings, have you guys noticed it? Every day, I teach a strategy live and then I give them a Onepager. And on Onepager is a video that shows the tactics. Because the tactics are hard to teach live in front of everyone. Like "Here, let me show you how to actually do the steps." It's really hard. So I teach the strategy live. I do it on whiteboard. They're like, "Oh, that's cool. I see the strategy. I understand what I'm doing." And I send the Onepager. The Onepager has a video. It's the tactical, let me show you me doing the thing. And then the Onepager lets them have forms and checklists, so they can actually make sure they do everything you're saying. It's really, really cool.

And so what's awesome too, is I'm launching that new company, Onepager.io with Dylan. And day number two in the challenge we're teaching people how to build lead magnets with Onepager. Like I'm using now, I'm trying to get them using it. And so in the process of us creating this challenge, it's really cool because we're able to make money on a lot of different things. We make money when somebody buys Onepager in the future. We make money if somebody buys ClickFunnels. We make money if they sign up for the One Funnel Away challenge. And so by doing these challenges, you can introduce people to different products or services or things you sell. If you're a health person do a weight loss challenge and introduce them to your weight loss shake, and then your workout plans. You can introduce people to different things.

Jim Edwards built a whole bunch of really cool scripts for people in the five day lead challenge that we're giving them for free to help them with every single step the copy they need in every single page. What's going to happen is people usually get excited by it. Like, "This is awesome." And then they're probably going to upgrade to FunnelScripts. So this free challenge is really cool because it teaches people, it gives them a result. By the end of the five days, everybody will have a lead magnet, they'll have a funnel. They'll have an email sequence and traffic coming into that funnel. But in the interim, they've had a chance to test all of our products and our services and try them out, see how they work.

So what's your equivalent of the five day lead challenge? What could you do? What's something to cast a big net? What's something that introduces people to your core products and your services? What's something that when someone completes the challenge, they leave with a tangible result? Not just like, "You're going to learn how to blah, blah, blah." It's like, "No, when you leave, this will be done. This will be finished." I want to give somebody a tangible so when they're done they're like, "Oh my gosh, I did this five day thing with Russell and I have a funnel, I have a lead magnet, have an email sequence. I need to do the, One Funnel Away challenge because I want to build a sales funnel. Let's go to the next step." if I can give them that result, they're more likely to come and do the next thing.

So anyway, I just want to share with you because I'm in the middle of it. I literally just finished recording all the tactic videos a few seconds ago for the Onepagers for the rest of the funnel. And had some energy. I was excited and I thought I'm going to just kind of share this with you guys. But if you haven't seen it yet, go experience it. Funnel hack me. Even if you're like, "I know how to generate leads Russ." Like, "Cool. I don't care." Come follow the process. Half of what I'm doing is for you to model the process. Go to fivedayleadchallenge.com. The number five day lead challenge.com and go join it. Okay? By Friday of this week, when we finished the live, live version, it'll be an evergreen version and we will be driving leads there for forever.

My goals in the next year to have over a million people go through the five day lead challenge, right? If I do that, if I get 10% to go to OFA, that's an extra 100 000 people through OFA. How many people does that bring to ClickFunnels? How many people does it to bring into Onepager? How many people does it bring into FunnelScripts? How many people does is it bringing to my world? How many books do I sell? All by doing this challenge on the front end.

So anyway, look at it, model it for your business. Figure out how to replicate that concept and see what happens. And let me know how it goes. Thanks you guys so much for hanging out. I appreciate you all. Hopefully you got some guidance from this one. If you did, please go to Instagram, Facebook, wherever you post it, take a screenshot of this episode, tag me in it. I do see those. I do read the comments and it's so much fun to kind of see the takeaways you guys are getting from them. With that said, thanks for listening. I appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 784 no DC vs Marvel... And Why You Should Care https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/dc-vs-marvel-and-why-you-should-care Do you know why Marvel grew so big? It’s because of the way that Stan Lee did this… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I want you to talk about a topic that's actually very, very important, and that topic is why Marvel is so much better than DC, and why that should actually matter to you. All right, all right, I know, some of you guys are freaking out right now. You're like, "No, there's no way, Marvel is not better than DC, Batman's the coolest," and you're going on and on. So I wanted to take step back because there's something we actually can all learn from this which I think is really, really important. It's funny, because I didn't know the whole Marvel, DC, the storyline a long time ago. In fact, it wasn't until I started listening to Business Wars, and Business Wars is a really cool podcast that they take two different companies and over five or six episodes tell the story of the war between these two businesses. And there's all sorts of really cool businesses in there, but one of them was DC versus Marvel. So I was like, "That's cool." So I started listening to it. And I didn't realize the time was just the story behind how those two companies came about. In fact, it's kind of fun, I had Dave Woodward at Funnel Hacking Live, I was like, "Dave, talk about this. I want to talk about DC versus Marvel, and the storytelling, and all those kind of things." He did a really cool presentation on that, actually dressed as Captain America, which was amazing. I feel bad, he was carrying a shield, and a mask, and everything while he was trying to give a presentation on stage. And I was like, "It's going to be hard to breathe up there." But he did an amazing job. But I want to share with you guys, because I think it's interesting, as I've, in the last recent months, binge watched all the Marvel movies once again, I started thinking more and more about it, but it's interesting if you look at the history of it, so DC came out first, they were like the big comic book company, right? If you look at comic books, there are always these people that had supernatural powers, right? Like Superman and things like that. Right? Where they were superheroes, extraterrestrials, or whatever, where they had these superpowers. And they always did good, because people are like, "That'd be cool if I could be a superhero too." Anyway, they did well. And Marvel was competing, and Marvel struggled for a long time. And then it wasn't until this one dude, who I think he was a janitor at the time, and he wanted to write comic books, anyway, I think, it's been a while since I listened to Business War episode, but basically what happened is, and some of the details might be fuzzy or incorrect, but basically he was leaving, he was going in to quit and he's like, "I'm quitting. I don't want to the janitor anymore." And they're like, "Well, why are you leaving?" He's like, "Because I want to write." And they're like, "Well, try to write something." And that was Stan Lee. And he went and he wrote, and I believe the first one he wrote was actually Captain America. And pitched that, they made it a thing, and it became amazing. Right? And then over the next however many decades, Stanley became Stan Lee, who was the man who's known for writing these amazing comic book characters, and storylines, and things like that. If you look at what the difference was between DC and Marvel, because in very short period of time Marvel ended up bypassing DC and became the brand, like the thing. And it's interesting, if you look at DC's characters, and this isn't universal, but at the beginning, DC's characters were all people who were supernatural, had no problems, could not have any issues, right? Like Superman, where it's just like, "Yeah. Yeah, well, he's got kryptonite, so he's got one weakness." But other than that, he's flawless. And it's hard to relate to someone like Superman, right? Eventually they brought in things like his family and things like that to try to make him more relatable, but he wasn't a relatable human. Where Stan Lee, for all the heroes that Stan created, there were people like Captain America, who's a normal person and then something happened and he became Captain America. Or Spider-man, Peter Parker was this normal kid and then this radioactive spider bit him, and he became something. So he was a normal human who then became a superhero, which for us average, normal humans who all want to become superheroes, that's something like, "Oh my gosh, I could become Spider-Man. I could become Ironman." Right? "I could become these characters." And if you notice all of the Marvel characters for the most part they were people, they were human beings with flaws and problems, but then they became superheroes. Whereas DC's were typically these super, you know, they're born as superheroes. Now obviously, the big one that's not true is Batman. And it's funny because Batman is of the DC characters by far the biggest, most popular, most loved. And what's Batman's story? Batman doesn't have superpowers, unless you watch Justice League, then they asked him, "What's your super power?" And he says, "I'm rich." So I guess that's technically Batman's super power. But for the most part, he was the one who was human who had to then create his super powers. Right? Which is why Batman is the one from DC world that we all know, and we love, and we all want to be like. At least me and the other superhero nerds. But yeah, so interesting thing is in the storylines, it's the storylines where it was a normal person who then became a superhero. And so the reason why that should matter to you guys is because you're all in the story telling business, whether you knew it or not, why do you think you're in a product business, or you're in a marketing business, but you're actually in a storytelling business. And your job and your goal is to tell stories. And if you look at just these two examples, right? A lot of times us as insecure humans, when we tell our stories, we want to come off of a place of being a superhero. And I see this all the time, people talk about how great they are, and they brag about themselves, and they share the highlight reel all the time. And it's like the problem with that is then you're like a DC character, right? You're Superman, you're invincible, and it's not relatable. Whereas if you look at it from a Marvel standpoint, and you come back and say "Instead of me telling my highlight reel and why I'm so great, what if I told my origin story? What if I told why I struggled? Why I was a normal person just like them?" What would happen then? Right? In that situation, you build rapport with the audience, they actually listen to you, they care about you, they're drawn to you. And then as you develop your superpowers, they go on that journey with you because they want to become like you, and that's really the key. It's funny when I, man, and not that I'm not now, but in a more insecure time in my life, when I was really struggling with who I was, my identity, and I got in this marketing world, and it's like, "Yeah, tell your stories." And I'm like, "Yeah." So I would tell the stories that made me look really, really good, right? But it was interesting because it didn't connect to people, they didn't relate. Everyone's like, "Great, there's this kid, he's really good at all these things," and just didn't relate. And it wasn't the full truth, if I'm honest, the truth was not that I was super out of the gate, the truth I had to become something, right? And so as I started becoming more vulnerable and more willing to step down off of that and share, "Here's this, here's that," and kind of go through those things and being willing to open up and share those things with people, that's when people started coming to me and started connecting with me. And so, your job is to become like the great Stan Lee and start telling your story in a way that shares your before. Talk about how you were a normal human before you became who you are today. And I'm looking at you today, if you're listening to this then you are a superhero. And some of you guys, it's not going to seem like you're a superhero, especially if you think about my guess is if Superman's like, "Yeah, I can fly, everyone from Krypton can fly, it's not that big of a deal." Right? Or Batman's like, "Yeah, it's really cool to do..." You know? For most of us, our super powers don't seem super to us, because it's the normal, it's what we do. And so, you have to understand though for the rest of the world, what you do is special. And so I'm here to tell you, in case you don't know that, that what you do is special. Even if you don't think it is, or you don't understand it, you don't understand your own worth, you have worth there. There's things you can do, there's people you can serve today because of what you've gone through, what you've experienced and who you've become. It doesn't mean you should stop becoming and stop that path, there's always so much more growth and things that are happening, but understanding that where you are today is a good enough place to start. Looking back on your path of where you've come and who are the people that you can help on this journey to get to where you are today, and whatever thing is you're excited by. And so, then it's coming back and say, "Okay, how do I track those people?" Well, you track those people by telling your story about where you were at back when you were like them. And the more willing you are to share that story and the more vulnerable you are, the more people will come to you. And they don't come to you because of the pedestal you're on, they come to you because you come off that pedestal and share the story about how you were just like them. And so that's what's important. So what is your story? What's the story that's going to scare you to tell the world? What's the story that's probably more vulnerable than you would tell even your friends or your family members? The one that you're scared of? You're scared that people will look down on you if you share that one. That's probably the one you're supposed to share. It's probably the one where you're like, "Man, I know Russell's saying, 'I'll do all the things, but I don't want to do that one thing.'" Okay, that's you, or you feel that way, that's a story you got to share. And so I want to encourage you guys to share it, to test it. And it can be as simple as doing a Facebook live. It can be simple as telling a friend. It can be simple as writing a blog post just to get it out. And the first time it's going to be super uncomfortable, and that's okay. Even if you just record it on your phone and you feel stupid, I understand that. I get that. I feel stupid recording these podcasts half the time, but I do it because it's important, right? It's not about us. In fact, I remember, it's funny because I've been doing these new videos we've been creating and I'm acting in a little bit, and it's just kind of embarrassing. It's like to get somebody to stop a scroll on Facebook, you have to overact and be like, "Wow!" All crazy, you know? And it's tough for me. But I remember listening to, I can't remember who it was but some famous actor, he said, "Your success as an actor relies upon your ability to be uncomfortable on camera." Right? Doing the uncomfortable thing, like talking over the top, or being excited, that's what draws people to you. And I was like, "Man." And that's what I totally feel like. I feel like half the time I'm making stuff I feel so stupid or whatever, but then you see the end product. And even if you're like, "It still is a little cheesy," sometimes it's like that's the thing that connects with people. So, worst case, in fact, let's do this, this is your assignment. If you're listening to this, I'm your teacher and you have an assignment today. Your assignment is to tell your Marvel origin story. Okay? And if it's just to yourself, that's fine. Open up your phone and click record on the audio memo like I'm doing right now, or open it to the camera and just click record, and just go back and try to remember what was your origin story? What was your Peter Parker story, when you got bit by a spider, right? What was your Captain America story, when you got radioactive, whatever, you became Captain America? What was your story about, you know, fill in the blank with whatever superhero you want, but what was your story? Because you've got one, you just got to remember it and then be willing to share it. So do that, record it, try it. And then the next step of if it came out okay, then go and post it somewhere. Text it to somebody, send in a post online, whatever it is. But it's the process of trying and starting this thing out. So, with that said, thanks you guys for listening, I hope this helps. I hope that you guys all start watching more and more Marvel movies because they're amazing. Now one cool thing from the DC world, I don't know the whole story behind this, but I got some details. So how many of you guys have seen Justice League? This is for my superhero nerds. So when Justice League came out, there's a guy, his last name's Snyder, he was a director, who was supposed to be the director of it. And then I guess during the filming of it, I think his daughter passed away or something, so he ended up leaving the project, and somebody else edited Justice League. Justice League came out and it was like, "Okay movie, not the best, not the worst, but not the best." And it came out, and some of you guys have probably seen it, and I guess after it was done, people were mad like, "I wish Snyder would have done this, it would've been way better." And so there was this thing online where people started messaging, "We want a Snyder cut. We want a Snyder cut of the movie." And it became such a big thing that I guess Snyder came back in now, however many three or four years later, and he's taking all the original footage, he's refilming some scenes, and he's doing a Snyder cut, where it's going to be Justice League, The Snyder Cut, coming out. So that's the plan. Brian Burt told me about this, he's one of my inner circle members, he's awesome. And so I started doing some research later and I started freaking out. So I'm actually really, really excited to see the Snyder cut, because they're going to take the broken DC Justice League and make it amazing. Hopefully. Cross your fingers. So anyway, that's all I got, you guys. Appreciate you all, thanks for listening, and I will talk to you all soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 Jan 2021 09:00:00 -0000 DC vs Marvel... And Why You Should Care full 376 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Do you know why Marvel grew so big? It’s because of the way that Stan Lee did this… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to... Do you know why Marvel grew so big? It’s because of the way that Stan Lee did this… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I want you to talk about a topic that's actually very, very important, and that topic is why Marvel is so much better than DC, and why that should actually matter to you. All right, all right, I know, some of you guys are freaking out right now. You're like, "No, there's no way, Marvel is not better than DC, Batman's the coolest," and you're going on and on. So I wanted to take step back because there's something we actually can all learn from this which I think is really, really important. It's funny, because I didn't know the whole Marvel, DC, the storyline a long time ago. In fact, it wasn't until I started listening to Business Wars, and Business Wars is a really cool podcast that they take two different companies and over five or six episodes tell the story of the war between these two businesses. And there's all sorts of really cool businesses in there, but one of them was DC versus Marvel. So I was like, "That's cool." So I started listening to it. And I didn't realize the time was just the story behind how those two companies came about. In fact, it's kind of fun, I had Dave Woodward at Funnel Hacking Live, I was like, "Dave, talk about this. I want to talk about DC versus Marvel, and the storytelling, and all those kind of things." He did a really cool presentation on that, actually dressed as Captain America, which was amazing. I feel bad, he was carrying a shield, and a mask, and everything while he was trying to give a presentation on stage. And I was like, "It's going to be hard to breathe up there." But he did an amazing job. But I want to share with you guys, because I think it's interesting, as I've, in the last recent months, binge watched all the Marvel movies once again, I started thinking more and more about it, but it's interesting if you look at the history of it, so DC came out first, they were like the big comic book company, right? If you look at comic books, there are always these people that had supernatural powers, right? Like Superman and things like that. Right? Where they were superheroes, extraterrestrials, or whatever, where they had these superpowers. And they always did good, because people are like, "That'd be cool if I could be a superhero too." Anyway, they did well. And Marvel was competing, and Marvel struggled for a long time. And then it wasn't until this one dude, who I think he was a janitor at the time, and he wanted to write comic books, anyway, I think, it's been a while since I listened to Business War episode, but basically what happened is, and some of the details might be fuzzy or incorrect, but basically he was leaving, he was going in to quit and he's like, "I'm quitting. I don't want to the janitor anymore." And they're like, "Well, why are you leaving?" He's like, "Because I want to write." And they're like, "Well, try to write something." And that was Stan Lee. And he went and he wrote, and I believe the first one he wrote was actually Captain America. And pitched that, they made it a thing, and it became amazing. Right? And then over the next however many decades, Stanley became Stan Lee, who was the man who's known for writing these amazing comic book characters, and storylines, and things like that. If you look at what the difference was between DC and Marvel, because in very short period of time Marvel ended up bypassing DC and became the brand, like the thing. And it's interesting, if you look at DC's characters, and this isn't universal, but at the beginning, DC's characters were all people who were supernatural, had no problems, could not have any issues, right? Like Superman, where it's just like, "Yeah. Yeah, well, he's got kryptonite, so he's got one weakness." But other than that, he's flawless. And it's hard to relate to someone like Superman, right? Eventually they brought in things like his family and things like that to try to make him more relatable, but he wasn't a relatable human. Where Stan Lee, for all the heroes that Stan created, there were people like Captain America, who's a normal person and then something happened and he became Captain America. Or Spider-man, Peter Parker was this normal kid and then this radioactive spider bit him, and he became something. So he was a normal human who then became a superhero, which for us average, normal humans who all want to become superheroes, that's something like, "Oh my gosh, I could become Spider-Man. I could become Ironman." Right? "I could become these characters." And if you notice all of the Marvel characters for the most part they were people, they were human beings with flaws and problems, but then they became superheroes. Whereas DC's were typically these super, you know, they're born as superheroes. Now obviously, the big one that's not true is Batman. And it's funny because Batman is of the DC characters by far the biggest, most popular, most loved. And what's Batman's story? Batman doesn't have superpowers, unless you watch Justice League, then they asked him, "What's your super power?" And he says, "I'm rich." So I guess that's technically Batman's super power. But for the most part, he was the one who was human who had to then create his super powers. Right? Which is why Batman is the one from DC world that we all know, and we love, and we all want to be like. At least me and the other superhero nerds. But yeah, so interesting thing is in the storylines, it's the storylines where it was a normal person who then became a superhero. And so the reason why that should matter to you guys is because you're all in the story telling business, whether you knew it or not, why do you think you're in a product business, or you're in a marketing business, but you're actually in a storytelling business. And your job and your goal is to tell stories. And if you look at just these two examples, right? A lot of times us as insecure humans, when we tell our stories, we want to come off of a place of being a superhero. And I see this all the time, people talk about how great they are, and they brag about themselves, and they share the highlight reel all the time. And it's like the problem with that is then you're like a DC character, right? You're Superman, you're invincible, and it's not relatable. Whereas if you look at it from a Marvel standpoint, and you come back and say "Instead of me telling my highlight reel and why I'm so great, what if I told my origin story? What if I told why I struggled? Why I was a normal person just like them?" What would happen then? Right? In that situation, you build rapport with the audience, they actually listen to you, they care about you, they're drawn to you. And then as you develop your superpowers, they go on that journey with you because they want to become like you, and that's really the key. It's funny when I, man, and not that I'm not now, but in a more insecure time in my life, when I was really struggling with who I was, my identity, and I got in this marketing world, and it's like, "Yeah, tell your stories." And I'm like, "Yeah." So I would tell the stories that made me look really, really good, right? But it was interesting because it didn't connect to people, they didn't relate. Everyone's like, "Great, there's this kid, he's really good at all these things," and just didn't relate. And it wasn't the full truth, if I'm honest, the truth was not that I was super out of the gate, the truth I had to become something, right? And so as I started becoming more vulnerable and more willing to step down off of that and share, "Here's this, here's that," and kind of go through those things and being willing to open up and share those things with people, that's when people started coming to me and started connecting with me. And so, your job is to become like the great Stan Lee and start telling your story in a way that shares your before. Talk about how you were a normal human before you became who you are today. And I'm looking at you today, if you're listening to this then you are a superhero. And some of you guys, it's not going to seem like you're a superhero, especially if you think about my guess is if Superman's like, "Yeah, I can fly, everyone from Krypton can fly, it's not that big of a deal." Right? Or Batman's like, "Yeah, it's really cool to do..." You know? For most of us, our super powers don't seem super to us, because it's the normal, it's what we do. And so, you have to understand though for the rest of the world, what you do is special. And so I'm here to tell you, in case you don't know that, that what you do is special. Even if you don't think it is, or you don't understand it, you don't understand your own worth, you have worth there. There's things you can do, there's people you can serve today because of what you've gone through, what you've experienced and who you've become. It doesn't mean you should stop becoming and stop that path, there's always so much more growth and things that are happening, but understanding that where you are today is a good enough place to start. Looking back on your path of where you've come and who are the people that you can help on this journey to get to where you are today, and whatever thing is you're excited by. And so, then it's coming back and say, "Okay, how do I track those people?" Well, you track those people by telling your story about where you were at back when you were like them. And the more willing you are to share that story and the more vulnerable you are, the more people will come to you. And they don't come to you because of the pedestal you're on, they come to you because you come off that pedestal and share the story about how you were just like them. And so that's what's important. So what is your story? What's the story that's going to scare you to tell the world? What's the story that's probably more vulnerable than you would tell even your friends or your family members? The one that you're scared of? You're scared that people will look down on you if you share that one. That's probably the one you're supposed to share. It's probably the one where you're like, "Man, I know Russell's saying, 'I'll do all the things, but I don't want to do that one thing.'" Okay, that's you, or you feel that way, that's a story you got to share. And so I want to encourage you guys to share it, to test it. And it can be as simple as doing a Facebook live. It can be simple as telling a friend. It can be simple as writing a blog post just to get it out. And the first time it's going to be super uncomfortable, and that's okay. Even if you just record it on your phone and you feel stupid, I understand that. I get that. I feel stupid recording these podcasts half the time, but I do it because it's important, right? It's not about us. In fact, I remember, it's funny because I've been doing these new videos we've been creating and I'm acting in a little bit, and it's just kind of embarrassing. It's like to get somebody to stop a scroll on Facebook, you have to overact and be like, "Wow!" All crazy, you know? And it's tough for me. But I remember listening to, I can't remember who it was but some famous actor, he said, "Your success as an actor relies upon your ability to be uncomfortable on camera." Right? Doing the uncomfortable thing, like talking over the top, or being excited, that's what draws people to you. And I was like, "Man." And that's what I totally feel like. I feel like half the time I'm making stuff I feel so stupid or whatever, but then you see the end product. And even if you're like, "It still is a little cheesy," sometimes it's like that's the thing that connects with people. So, worst case, in fact, let's do this, this is your assignment. If you're listening to this, I'm your teacher and you have an assignment today. Your assignment is to tell your Marvel origin story. Okay? And if it's just to yourself, that's fine. Open up your phone and click record on the audio memo like I'm doing right now, or open it to the camera and just click record, and just go back and try to remember what was your origin story? What was your Peter Parker story, when you got bit by a spider, right? What was your Captain America story, when you got radioactive, whatever, you became Captain America? What was your story about, you know, fill in the blank with whatever superhero you want, but what was your story? Because you've got one, you just got to remember it and then be willing to share it. So do that, record it, try it. And then the next step of if it came out okay, then go and post it somewhere. Text it to somebody, send in a post online, whatever it is. But it's the process of trying and starting this thing out. So, with that said, thanks you guys for listening, I hope this helps. I hope that you guys all start watching more and more Marvel movies because they're amazing. Now one cool thing from the DC world, I don't know the whole story behind this, but I got some details. So how many of you guys have seen Justice League? This is for my superhero nerds. So when Justice League came out, there's a guy, his last name's Snyder, he was a director, who was supposed to be the director of it. And then I guess during the filming of it, I think his daughter passed away or something, so he ended up leaving the project, and somebody else edited Justice League. Justice League came out and it was like, "Okay movie, not the best, not the worst, but not the best." And it came out, and some of you guys have probably seen it, and I guess after it was done, people were mad like, "I wish Snyder would have done this, it would've been way better." And so there was this thing online where people started messaging, "We want a Snyder cut. We want a Snyder cut of the movie." And it became such a big thing that I guess Snyder came back in now, however many three or four years later, and he's taking all the original footage, he's refilming some scenes, and he's doing a Snyder cut, where it's going to be Justice League, The Snyder Cut, coming out. So that's the plan. Brian Burt told me about this, he's one of my inner circle members, he's awesome. And so I started doing some research later and I started freaking out. So I'm actually really, really excited to see the Snyder cut, because they're going to take the broken DC Justice League and make it amazing. Hopefully. Cross your fingers. So anyway, that's all I got, you guys. Appreciate you all, thanks for listening, and I will talk to you all soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Do you know why Marvel grew so big? 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What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I want you to talk about a topic that's actually very, very important, and that topic is why Marvel is so much better than DC, and why that should actually matter to you.

All right, all right, I know, some of you guys are freaking out right now. You're like, "No, there's no way, Marvel is not better than DC, Batman's the coolest," and you're going on and on. So I wanted to take step back because there's something we actually can all learn from this which I think is really, really important. It's funny, because I didn't know the whole Marvel, DC, the storyline a long time ago.

In fact, it wasn't until I started listening to Business Wars, and Business Wars is a really cool podcast that they take two different companies and over five or six episodes tell the story of the war between these two businesses. And there's all sorts of really cool businesses in there, but one of them was DC versus Marvel. So I was like, "That's cool." So I started listening to it.

And I didn't realize the time was just the story behind how those two companies came about. In fact, it's kind of fun, I had Dave Woodward at Funnel Hacking Live, I was like, "Dave, talk about this. I want to talk about DC versus Marvel, and the storytelling, and all those kind of things." He did a really cool presentation on that, actually dressed as Captain America, which was amazing. I feel bad, he was carrying a shield, and a mask, and everything while he was trying to give a presentation on stage. And I was like, "It's going to be hard to breathe up there." But he did an amazing job.

But I want to share with you guys, because I think it's interesting, as I've, in the last recent months, binge watched all the Marvel movies once again, I started thinking more and more about it, but it's interesting if you look at the history of it, so DC came out first, they were like the big comic book company, right? If you look at comic books, there are always these people that had supernatural powers, right? Like Superman and things like that. Right? Where they were superheroes, extraterrestrials, or whatever, where they had these superpowers. And they always did good, because people are like, "That'd be cool if I could be a superhero too." Anyway, they did well.

And Marvel was competing, and Marvel struggled for a long time. And then it wasn't until this one dude, who I think he was a janitor at the time, and he wanted to write comic books, anyway, I think, it's been a while since I listened to Business War episode, but basically what happened is, and some of the details might be fuzzy or incorrect, but basically he was leaving, he was going in to quit and he's like, "I'm quitting. I don't want to the janitor anymore." And they're like, "Well, why are you leaving?" He's like, "Because I want to write." And they're like, "Well, try to write something." And that was Stan Lee.

And he went and he wrote, and I believe the first one he wrote was actually Captain America. And pitched that, they made it a thing, and it became amazing. Right? And then over the next however many decades, Stanley became Stan Lee, who was the man who's known for writing these amazing comic book characters, and storylines, and things like that.

If you look at what the difference was between DC and Marvel, because in very short period of time Marvel ended up bypassing DC and became the brand, like the thing. And it's interesting, if you look at DC's characters, and this isn't universal, but at the beginning, DC's characters were all people who were supernatural, had no problems, could not have any issues, right? Like Superman, where it's just like, "Yeah. Yeah, well, he's got kryptonite, so he's got one weakness." But other than that, he's flawless. And it's hard to relate to someone like Superman, right? Eventually they brought in things like his family and things like that to try to make him more relatable, but he wasn't a relatable human.

Where Stan Lee, for all the heroes that Stan created, there were people like Captain America, who's a normal person and then something happened and he became Captain America. Or Spider-man, Peter Parker was this normal kid and then this radioactive spider bit him, and he became something. So he was a normal human who then became a superhero, which for us average, normal humans who all want to become superheroes, that's something like, "Oh my gosh, I could become Spider-Man. I could become Ironman." Right? "I could become these characters."

And if you notice all of the Marvel characters for the most part they were people, they were human beings with flaws and problems, but then they became superheroes. Whereas DC's were typically these super, you know, they're born as superheroes. Now obviously, the big one that's not true is Batman. And it's funny because Batman is of the DC characters by far the biggest, most popular, most loved. And what's Batman's story? Batman doesn't have superpowers, unless you watch Justice League, then they asked him, "What's your super power?" And he says, "I'm rich." So I guess that's technically Batman's super power. But for the most part, he was the one who was human who had to then create his super powers. Right? Which is why Batman is the one from DC world that we all know, and we love, and we all want to be like. At least me and the other superhero nerds.

But yeah, so interesting thing is in the storylines, it's the storylines where it was a normal person who then became a superhero. And so the reason why that should matter to you guys is because you're all in the story telling business, whether you knew it or not, why do you think you're in a product business, or you're in a marketing business, but you're actually in a storytelling business. And your job and your goal is to tell stories. And if you look at just these two examples, right? A lot of times us as insecure humans, when we tell our stories, we want to come off of a place of being a superhero. And I see this all the time, people talk about how great they are, and they brag about themselves, and they share the highlight reel all the time.

And it's like the problem with that is then you're like a DC character, right? You're Superman, you're invincible, and it's not relatable. Whereas if you look at it from a Marvel standpoint, and you come back and say "Instead of me telling my highlight reel and why I'm so great, what if I told my origin story? What if I told why I struggled? Why I was a normal person just like them?" What would happen then? Right? In that situation, you build rapport with the audience, they actually listen to you, they care about you, they're drawn to you. And then as you develop your superpowers, they go on that journey with you because they want to become like you, and that's really the key.

It's funny when I, man, and not that I'm not now, but in a more insecure time in my life, when I was really struggling with who I was, my identity, and I got in this marketing world, and it's like, "Yeah, tell your stories." And I'm like, "Yeah." So I would tell the stories that made me look really, really good, right? But it was interesting because it didn't connect to people, they didn't relate. Everyone's like, "Great, there's this kid, he's really good at all these things," and just didn't relate.

And it wasn't the full truth, if I'm honest, the truth was not that I was super out of the gate, the truth I had to become something, right? And so as I started becoming more vulnerable and more willing to step down off of that and share, "Here's this, here's that," and kind of go through those things and being willing to open up and share those things with people, that's when people started coming to me and started connecting with me.

And so, your job is to become like the great Stan Lee and start telling your story in a way that shares your before. Talk about how you were a normal human before you became who you are today. And I'm looking at you today, if you're listening to this then you are a superhero. And some of you guys, it's not going to seem like you're a superhero, especially if you think about my guess is if Superman's like, "Yeah, I can fly, everyone from Krypton can fly, it's not that big of a deal." Right? Or Batman's like, "Yeah, it's really cool to do..." You know? For most of us, our super powers don't seem super to us, because it's the normal, it's what we do. And so, you have to understand though for the rest of the world, what you do is special.

And so I'm here to tell you, in case you don't know that, that what you do is special. Even if you don't think it is, or you don't understand it, you don't understand your own worth, you have worth there. There's things you can do, there's people you can serve today because of what you've gone through, what you've experienced and who you've become. It doesn't mean you should stop becoming and stop that path, there's always so much more growth and things that are happening, but understanding that where you are today is a good enough place to start. Looking back on your path of where you've come and who are the people that you can help on this journey to get to where you are today, and whatever thing is you're excited by.

And so, then it's coming back and say, "Okay, how do I track those people?" Well, you track those people by telling your story about where you were at back when you were like them. And the more willing you are to share that story and the more vulnerable you are, the more people will come to you. And they don't come to you because of the pedestal you're on, they come to you because you come off that pedestal and share the story about how you were just like them. And so that's what's important.

So what is your story? What's the story that's going to scare you to tell the world? What's the story that's probably more vulnerable than you would tell even your friends or your family members? The one that you're scared of? You're scared that people will look down on you if you share that one. That's probably the one you're supposed to share. It's probably the one where you're like, "Man, I know Russell's saying, 'I'll do all the things, but I don't want to do that one thing.'" Okay, that's you, or you feel that way, that's a story you got to share.

And so I want to encourage you guys to share it, to test it. And it can be as simple as doing a Facebook live. It can be simple as telling a friend. It can be simple as writing a blog post just to get it out. And the first time it's going to be super uncomfortable, and that's okay. Even if you just record it on your phone and you feel stupid, I understand that. I get that. I feel stupid recording these podcasts half the time, but I do it because it's important, right? It's not about us.

In fact, I remember, it's funny because I've been doing these new videos we've been creating and I'm acting in a little bit, and it's just kind of embarrassing. It's like to get somebody to stop a scroll on Facebook, you have to overact and be like, "Wow!" All crazy, you know? And it's tough for me. But I remember listening to, I can't remember who it was but some famous actor, he said, "Your success as an actor relies upon your ability to be uncomfortable on camera." Right? Doing the uncomfortable thing, like talking over the top, or being excited, that's what draws people to you. And I was like, "Man." And that's what I totally feel like. I feel like half the time I'm making stuff I feel so stupid or whatever, but then you see the end product. And even if you're like, "It still is a little cheesy," sometimes it's like that's the thing that connects with people.

So, worst case, in fact, let's do this, this is your assignment. If you're listening to this, I'm your teacher and you have an assignment today. Your assignment is to tell your Marvel origin story. Okay? And if it's just to yourself, that's fine. Open up your phone and click record on the audio memo like I'm doing right now, or open it to the camera and just click record, and just go back and try to remember what was your origin story? What was your Peter Parker story, when you got bit by a spider, right? What was your Captain America story, when you got radioactive, whatever, you became Captain America? What was your story about, you know, fill in the blank with whatever superhero you want, but what was your story? Because you've got one, you just got to remember it and then be willing to share it.

So do that, record it, try it. And then the next step of if it came out okay, then go and post it somewhere. Text it to somebody, send in a post online, whatever it is. But it's the process of trying and starting this thing out. So, with that said, thanks you guys for listening, I hope this helps. I hope that you guys all start watching more and more Marvel movies because they're amazing.

Now one cool thing from the DC world, I don't know the whole story behind this, but I got some details. So how many of you guys have seen Justice League? This is for my superhero nerds. So when Justice League came out, there's a guy, his last name's Snyder, he was a director, who was supposed to be the director of it. And then I guess during the filming of it, I think his daughter passed away or something, so he ended up leaving the project, and somebody else edited Justice League. Justice League came out and it was like, "Okay movie, not the best, not the worst, but not the best." And it came out, and some of you guys have probably seen it, and I guess after it was done, people were mad like, "I wish Snyder would have done this, it would've been way better."

And so there was this thing online where people started messaging, "We want a Snyder cut. We want a Snyder cut of the movie." And it became such a big thing that I guess Snyder came back in now, however many three or four years later, and he's taking all the original footage, he's refilming some scenes, and he's doing a Snyder cut, where it's going to be Justice League, The Snyder Cut, coming out. So that's the plan.

Brian Burt told me about this, he's one of my inner circle members, he's awesome. And so I started doing some research later and I started freaking out. So I'm actually really, really excited to see the Snyder cut, because they're going to take the broken DC Justice League and make it amazing. Hopefully. Cross your fingers.

So anyway, that's all I got, you guys. Appreciate you all, thanks for listening, and I will talk to you all soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 872 no The Secret To Longevity: Hooks, Hooks, Hooks https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-to-longevity-hooks-hooks-hooks If you want to learn the secret to selling more of your products consistently, this is it… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. Good morning. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I'm driving to the office and it is raining outside. It's beautiful. But today I want to talk to you about something that I think so many of us entrepreneurs forget about. We get so excited about creating our product. We are so excited about actually building out our funnel and then miss this step. We do not miss it, but we don't do enough to keep sales consistently coming in. And that's what I want to talk to you guys about today. All right. Consistency in sales. This is the key, right? Everybody can launch a product and make a little bit of money. Everybody can put something out and get a sale every once in a while. How do you make consistent sales all the time? I remember when I was first just getting started in this game, there was this internet marketing forum back in the day called The Warrior Forum. And I was in there. I was a member. I was reading all the internet marketing guys posting, what they're talking about. And some guy posted something about, I can't remember what it was, but he posted something about his sales and how many sales per day he was making. And I remember I was just shocked. I was like, "Wait a minute, you make consistent sales every day?" I thought the whole internet marketing game was like, you create something and every once in a while someone buys it and you get some money to go play, you take your wife out on a date or something. It never crossed my mind there is a way to make consistency in sales. I still remember. I wonder if that post is still there from 18 years ago, whenever it was. But I remember posting, I was just like, "Wait, how do you get sales every single day?" That never crossed my mind as a thing, that that was a possibility. Because I think I looked at my business as a promotion, and I saw I was looking at launches as a launch. You launch it, and you make some money, then you got to create a new thing to launch. And I remember that was the first time it crossed my mind. And he didn't answer, and nobody answered. But I remember I was just like, "Oh, can you imagine what it'd be like to have sales coming in every single day? That'd be insane." And so, that's kind of the premise of what I'm talking about, because so many of you guys have a promotion or you've got something that sells every once in a while, but it's not like a business that's consistently generating cash, that you're consistently trying to grow. Right? And so, yesterday, actually last two days, we hired a really cool company called Chamber Media. And they are basically a contract we're doing, one big ad campaign per month with them for the next 12 months. So, what that means is I go into the studio, they write a script, they create a whole thing, and then we film it. And we filmed the video, and then while we filmed the video, we filmed anywhere from six to 10 retargeting ads at the same time. Right? And so, the last two days we actually did two of them. Well, the first one is like a Mission Impossible thing, because we're using it to sell one funnel away challenge. So, I was high waisted. How you say that word? I was in the air in a harness, flying around like, like Tom Cruise from Mission Impossible. And then, we filmed more stuff, it was so much fun. And then, yesterday was another one is kind of a first person shooter ad and... Anyway, so much fun. We did all things. And I remember at the end of it, they've got their behind the scenes video guy there filming behind the scenes and asking questions to people. And he asked me this question. He said, he's like, "Why do you guys spend so much money creating these funny ads? I just want to understand why you guys are doing this." And the second ad was for Expert Secrets, which is a book. And earlier today someone said, they're like, they've made a comment of like, "He signed a book that's free plus shipping. How was he able to spend this much money on an ad?" And so when the other guy asked me that question on camera, I was thinking for a minute. I said, "You know what? Most people, they spend so much time creating the product. Right? If we write in the book like, Expert Secrets alone was like an 18 month project, right? So it's like a year and a half of your life is dedicated to creating this thing. And then you go out and you create the funnel. And for me, that's like, I geek out for a long time. So, it's 30 days of me geeking out, deep diving Funnel Hacking a million people, writing the copy, doing the videos, all the stuff, the funnel. And then, there's the next phase, there's all different things that go into, right? And then we launch it. We make a whole bunch of book sales. And then for most people that's where it stops. And for me, it's like, "Why I keep investing time and energy money, making new ads and driving new traffic and all these kind of things." And it's like, if you think about it, it's because I love my products so much that I don't stop after we launched the product. Right? I want people to continue to read this book forever. I want millions and millions of copies sold. I want, when I'm dead, that there are still ads being run, my face on it, selling my books. In fact, I've told my team multiple times that if I die, they have permission to continue to run my ads every single day. That's my art, don't turn it off. I remember Billy Mays, who's probably one of the greatest pitchman of all time. When he passed away a couple of years ago, they cut all his ads. I think out of respect for him or for the family or something. But even OxiClean is number one best seller of all time, they cut all his OxiClean ads and put it in someone else. And, and I was just like, "Dude, what?" Ah, Billy Mays as the greatest pitcher of all time, the way he would want his memory to be remembered is people running ads of him. He doesn't care if he's dead or not. That's his art. He wants it to live on beyond himself. And so if my team is listening to this and I've deceased at this point and you're like, "Should we run Russell's ad?" Yes. Keep running the ad. Don't stop it. This is my legacy. I want to continue. You can even add a meme video, from beyond the grave, Russell's coming back to tell you about this book. That's how important it is. I don't care. Keep running my ad. But anyway, I digress. And so that's the reason why I spend so much money, because I care about the product. I don't want it just to be a promotion or one-off thing. Something that makes sales once in a while, I want this thing to sell consistently every single day for the rest of my life. Right? That's the big transformation in people's heads. And so, I think what happens in our world is, we spend so much time creating the product, right? So, we're trying to create a sales funnel, so much time creating the initial campaign that launches and sells it. And then we stop and we move on to the next thing. And in my mind is like, "What a tragedy. You spent so much of your blood, sweat and tears creating this thing." Like I told the guy in the camera, I was like, "My fingers literally were bleeding from writing this book." I don't want it to go down and as just a promotion, this is something that I want to keep pushing and keep driving and keep making sales. And so, the question comes back is, what do we do next? After the thing is launched, where do we put our creativity? Is it the next product? The next thing? And the answer is no. You put your creativity into creating more creative, more ads, more things to go grab people and hook them and bring them into your world. Right? If you read Traffic Secrets, all about hook, story, offer. You already have the story, you already have offer. Now it's going out, and you got to create hook after hook after hook, after hook after hook to grab more people and bring them in to hear your story. Okay. So, the last part which never ends is the creation of hooks. You are creating hooks and hooks and hooks and hooks to keep grabbing people and bringing them into your world. And that's where the creativity lies, I think us as entrepreneurs. And I'm as guilty as anybody. "My creativity is in the next book, the next project, the next funnel, the next thing." And it's like, "No, I need to shift more of my creativity into the next creative, the next ad, the next video, the next message. The next podcast, next thing is going to bring more people into my world." And so, in fact, it's funny, Steven Larsen, he messaged me yesterday on Voxer. He was like, "Dude, in the last..." I can't remember two and a half years or three years since he left ClickFunnels. He's like, "We've launched 90 funnels." He's like, "Only like three of them are making any money. So, we're like killing all the rest of them, and I'm going to start focusing my time on just creating more ads to sell those three that are actually making the money." I was like, "Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about." And so, for most of you guys, you have something amazing. You've created something in the past. It's sitting there on the shelf, or in your ClickFunnels account that made money at once and stopped, or made a little bit, but not what you wanted, so you stopped. The answer's not, "Go make a new thing." It's, "Go create more ads, go create more videos, go talk more, make more noise, get your message out there. Throw out more hooks and hooks and hooks until you find the right hook." Recently watching Dean Graziosi's video from Funnel Hacking Live. He's talked about his book, Millionaire Success Habits. And they spent a year and a half, two years driving traffic to that book, and it did. Okay. Never did awesome. And he kept trying different ads, trying different ads. And it was a year and a half, almost two years in that he did this ad that had a different message, right? It was just a shift on the positioning of how he positioned the thing. And that was the one that hit. And since that point they've sold 500,000 copies of the book or more. But it was just shifting the message. But he didn't know what messaging was right. It took him a year and a half of creating lots of hooks after hook, after hookup hook, after hook, before he found the one that blew it up. Right? And so sometimes we just stop too early. We try a hook, it doesn't work, we're like, "Oh, I'm out." It's like, "No, no, no, no. The product might not be wrong. The funnel might not be wrong. It's your hooks were wrong. Like how many hooks you can throw out today? Is it one? Is a two? Is it 10? Is it 100?" Like, go create more of them. Put more out there, make more ads, create more videos, make more images. All the stuff we're doing, all the things happening around the product around the funnel are as important, if not more so. Well, they're definitely more so for your longterm consistency in sales, right? I think it was really fun yesterday, as we were creating these ads, every single scene of the ad, we'd create the ad, and then we would stop and we'd create retargeting ad right there. Right. And so for one video, we'd have six, seven retargeting ads. Today, I'm coming in, we have a landing page we're creating. And so, I'm trying to get his picture. So we're coming here, we're getting a picture. I was trying to like, "Give me the best hook for the pictures." So, I wore red shirt and red watch and red shoes, because to be bright, right? And the picture, we have these colored, the big colored sticky notes, all these things. Because I'm trying to create a hook to grab people's attention. Right? And then Brandon's coming over with his video camera. And after, we had the pitches landing page, I'm going to create 30 different ads to get people to the landing page. Right? So it's going to be me showing them landing pages, talking about landing pages, and there's all these little micro ads will run on Facebook and YouTube and Instagram and everywhere. All talking about the picture that is the pitch on the landing page to get somebody to opt-in. Right? And so I'll probably create 30 different ads today, all going to the landing page that we're developing today. And that's it. Right? And I'll probably have 30 ads, and probably 20 retargeting ads. So, it's just like, here's the one piece of content. Right? The landing page. But then from that landing page, we go back and we create 30 ads, 40 ads, 50 ads, all just pushing to the landing page. And they're all dumb. They're little, they're fun. And we have no idea which one is going to work, which ones aren't going to work. So, we just make a whole bunch of them. Right? And that's the secret. That's the key to longevity. So, anyway, I hope that I hope that helps. Especially if you guys who were frustrated, sales are down, you trying very hard to get consistency. You want to make this more of a, instead of a hobby, more of a full-time job. It's shifting your focus from the next product to the next ad, and putting in focus in your creativity there. So anyway, I hope that helps. Cool stuff happening and hope you guys are having great holidays. And now that said, I'm going to go inside and take some pictures and create some hooks, and hopefully sell some more books. I appreciate you all. And they'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Secret To Longevity: Hooks, Hooks, Hooks full 375 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you want to learn the secret to selling more of your products consistently, this is it… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. Good morning. This is Russell... If you want to learn the secret to selling more of your products consistently, this is it… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. Good morning. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I'm driving to the office and it is raining outside. It's beautiful. But today I want to talk to you about something that I think so many of us entrepreneurs forget about. We get so excited about creating our product. We are so excited about actually building out our funnel and then miss this step. We do not miss it, but we don't do enough to keep sales consistently coming in. And that's what I want to talk to you guys about today. All right. Consistency in sales. This is the key, right? Everybody can launch a product and make a little bit of money. Everybody can put something out and get a sale every once in a while. How do you make consistent sales all the time? I remember when I was first just getting started in this game, there was this internet marketing forum back in the day called The Warrior Forum. And I was in there. I was a member. I was reading all the internet marketing guys posting, what they're talking about. And some guy posted something about, I can't remember what it was, but he posted something about his sales and how many sales per day he was making. And I remember I was just shocked. I was like, "Wait a minute, you make consistent sales every day?" I thought the whole internet marketing game was like, you create something and every once in a while someone buys it and you get some money to go play, you take your wife out on a date or something. It never crossed my mind there is a way to make consistency in sales. I still remember. I wonder if that post is still there from 18 years ago, whenever it was. But I remember posting, I was just like, "Wait, how do you get sales every single day?" That never crossed my mind as a thing, that that was a possibility. Because I think I looked at my business as a promotion, and I saw I was looking at launches as a launch. You launch it, and you make some money, then you got to create a new thing to launch. And I remember that was the first time it crossed my mind. And he didn't answer, and nobody answered. But I remember I was just like, "Oh, can you imagine what it'd be like to have sales coming in every single day? That'd be insane." And so, that's kind of the premise of what I'm talking about, because so many of you guys have a promotion or you've got something that sells every once in a while, but it's not like a business that's consistently generating cash, that you're consistently trying to grow. Right? And so, yesterday, actually last two days, we hired a really cool company called Chamber Media. And they are basically a contract we're doing, one big ad campaign per month with them for the next 12 months. So, what that means is I go into the studio, they write a script, they create a whole thing, and then we film it. And we filmed the video, and then while we filmed the video, we filmed anywhere from six to 10 retargeting ads at the same time. Right? And so, the last two days we actually did two of them. Well, the first one is like a Mission Impossible thing, because we're using it to sell one funnel away challenge. So, I was high waisted. How you say that word? I was in the air in a harness, flying around like, like Tom Cruise from Mission Impossible. And then, we filmed more stuff, it was so much fun. And then, yesterday was another one is kind of a first person shooter ad and... Anyway, so much fun. We did all things. And I remember at the end of it, they've got their behind the scenes video guy there filming behind the scenes and asking questions to people. And he asked me this question. He said, he's like, "Why do you guys spend so much money creating these funny ads? I just want to understand why you guys are doing this." And the second ad was for Expert Secrets, which is a book. And earlier today someone said, they're like, they've made a comment of like, "He signed a book that's free plus shipping. How was he able to spend this much money on an ad?" And so when the other guy asked me that question on camera, I was thinking for a minute. I said, "You know what? Most people, they spend so much time creating the product. Right? If we write in the book like, Expert Secrets alone was like an 18 month project, right? So it's like a year and a half of your life is dedicated to creating this thing. And then you go out and you create the funnel. And for me, that's like, I geek out for a long time. So, it's 30 days of me geeking out, deep diving Funnel Hacking a million people, writing the copy, doing the videos, all the stuff, the funnel. And then, there's the next phase, there's all different things that go into, right? And then we launch it. We make a whole bunch of book sales. And then for most people that's where it stops. And for me, it's like, "Why I keep investing time and energy money, making new ads and driving new traffic and all these kind of things." And it's like, if you think about it, it's because I love my products so much that I don't stop after we launched the product. Right? I want people to continue to read this book forever. I want millions and millions of copies sold. I want, when I'm dead, that there are still ads being run, my face on it, selling my books. In fact, I've told my team multiple times that if I die, they have permission to continue to run my ads every single day. That's my art, don't turn it off. I remember Billy Mays, who's probably one of the greatest pitchman of all time. When he passed away a couple of years ago, they cut all his ads. I think out of respect for him or for the family or something. But even OxiClean is number one best seller of all time, they cut all his OxiClean ads and put it in someone else. And, and I was just like, "Dude, what?" Ah, Billy Mays as the greatest pitcher of all time, the way he would want his memory to be remembered is people running ads of him. He doesn't care if he's dead or not. That's his art. He wants it to live on beyond himself. And so if my team is listening to this and I've deceased at this point and you're like, "Should we run Russell's ad?" Yes. Keep running the ad. Don't stop it. This is my legacy. I want to continue. You can even add a meme video, from beyond the grave, Russell's coming back to tell you about this book. That's how important it is. I don't care. Keep running my ad. But anyway, I digress. And so that's the reason why I spend so much money, because I care about the product. I don't want it just to be a promotion or one-off thing. Something that makes sales once in a while, I want this thing to sell consistently every single day for the rest of my life. Right? That's the big transformation in people's heads. And so, I think what happens in our world is, we spend so much time creating the product, right? So, we're trying to create a sales funnel, so much time creating the initial campaign that launches and sells it. And then we stop and we move on to the next thing. And in my mind is like, "What a tragedy. You spent so much of your blood, sweat and tears creating this thing." Like I told the guy in the camera, I was like, "My fingers literally were bleeding from writing this book." I don't want it to go down and as just a promotion, this is something that I want to keep pushing and keep driving and keep making sales. And so, the question comes back is, what do we do next? After the thing is launched, where do we put our creativity? Is it the next product? The next thing? And the answer is no. You put your creativity into creating more creative, more ads, more things to go grab people and hook them and bring them into your world. Right? If you read Traffic Secrets, all about hook, story, offer. You already have the story, you already have offer. Now it's going out, and you got to create hook after hook after hook, after hook after hook to grab more people and bring them in to hear your story. Okay. So, the last part which never ends is the creation of hooks. You are creating hooks and hooks and hooks and hooks to keep grabbing people and bringing them into your world. And that's where the creativity lies, I think us as entrepreneurs. And I'm as guilty as anybody. "My creativity is in the next book, the next project, the next funnel, the next thing." And it's like, "No, I need to shift more of my creativity into the next creative, the next ad, the next video, the next message. The next podcast, next thing is going to bring more people into my world." And so, in fact, it's funny, Steven Larsen, he messaged me yesterday on Voxer. He was like, "Dude, in the last..." I can't remember two and a half years or three years since he left ClickFunnels. He's like, "We've launched 90 funnels." He's like, "Only like three of them are making any money. So, we're like killing all the rest of them, and I'm going to start focusing my time on just creating more ads to sell those three that are actually making the money." I was like, "Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about." And so, for most of you guys, you have something amazing. You've created something in the past. It's sitting there on the shelf, or in your ClickFunnels account that made money at once and stopped, or made a little bit, but not what you wanted, so you stopped. The answer's not, "Go make a new thing." It's, "Go create more ads, go create more videos, go talk more, make more noise, get your message out there. Throw out more hooks and hooks and hooks until you find the right hook." Recently watching Dean Graziosi's video from Funnel Hacking Live. He's talked about his book, Millionaire Success Habits. And they spent a year and a half, two years driving traffic to that book, and it did. Okay. Never did awesome. And he kept trying different ads, trying different ads. And it was a year and a half, almost two years in that he did this ad that had a different message, right? It was just a shift on the positioning of how he positioned the thing. And that was the one that hit. And since that point they've sold 500,000 copies of the book or more. But it was just shifting the message. But he didn't know what messaging was right. It took him a year and a half of creating lots of hooks after hook, after hookup hook, after hook, before he found the one that blew it up. Right? And so sometimes we just stop too early. We try a hook, it doesn't work, we're like, "Oh, I'm out." It's like, "No, no, no, no. The product might not be wrong. The funnel might not be wrong. It's your hooks were wrong. Like how many hooks you can throw out today? Is it one? Is a two? Is it 10? Is it 100?" Like, go create more of them. Put more out there, make more ads, create more videos, make more images. All the stuff we're doing, all the things happening around the product around the funnel are as important, if not more so. Well, they're definitely more so for your longterm consistency in sales, right? I think it was really fun yesterday, as we were creating these ads, every single scene of the ad, we'd create the ad, and then we would stop and we'd create retargeting ad right there. Right. And so for one video, we'd have six, seven retargeting ads. Today, I'm coming in, we have a landing page we're creating. And so, I'm trying to get his picture. So we're coming here, we're getting a picture. I was trying to like, "Give me the best hook for the pictures." So, I wore red shirt and red watch and red shoes, because to be bright, right? And the picture, we have these colored, the big colored sticky notes, all these things. Because I'm trying to create a hook to grab people's attention. Right? And then Brandon's coming over with his video camera. And after, we had the pitches landing page, I'm going to create 30 different ads to get people to the landing page. Right? So it's going to be me showing them landing pages, talking about landing pages, and there's all these little micro ads will run on Facebook and YouTube and Instagram and everywhere. All talking about the picture that is the pitch on the landing page to get somebody to opt-in. Right? And so I'll probably create 30 different ads today, all going to the landing page that we're developing today. And that's it. Right? And I'll probably have 30 ads, and probably 20 retargeting ads. So, it's just like, here's the one piece of content. Right? The landing page. But then from that landing page, we go back and we create 30 ads, 40 ads, 50 ads, all just pushing to the landing page. And they're all dumb. They're little, they're fun. And we have no idea which one is going to work, which ones aren't going to work. So, we just make a whole bunch of them. Right? And that's the secret. That's the key to longevity. So, anyway, I hope that I hope that helps. Especially if you guys who were frustrated, sales are down, you trying very hard to get consistency. You want to make this more of a, instead of a hobby, more of a full-time job. It's shifting your focus from the next product to the next ad, and putting in focus in your creativity there. So anyway, I hope that helps. Cool stuff happening and hope you guys are having great holidays. And now that said, I'm going to go inside and take some pictures and create some hooks, and hopefully sell some more books. I appreciate you all. And they'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you want to learn the secret to selling more of your products consistently, this is it…

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What's up everybody. Good morning. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I'm driving to the office and it is raining outside. It's beautiful. But today I want to talk to you about something that I think so many of us entrepreneurs forget about. We get so excited about creating our product. We are so excited about actually building out our funnel and then miss this step. We do not miss it, but we don't do enough to keep sales consistently coming in. And that's what I want to talk to you guys about today. All right. Consistency in sales. This is the key, right? Everybody can launch a product and make a little bit of money. Everybody can put something out and get a sale every once in a while. How do you make consistent sales all the time? I remember when I was first just getting started in this game, there was this internet marketing forum back in the day called The Warrior Forum.

And I was in there. I was a member. I was reading all the internet marketing guys posting, what they're talking about. And some guy posted something about, I can't remember what it was, but he posted something about his sales and how many sales per day he was making. And I remember I was just shocked. I was like, "Wait a minute, you make consistent sales every day?" I thought the whole internet marketing game was like, you create something and every once in a while someone buys it and you get some money to go play, you take your wife out on a date or something. It never crossed my mind there is a way to make consistency in sales. I still remember. I wonder if that post is still there from 18 years ago, whenever it was. But I remember posting, I was just like, "Wait, how do you get sales every single day?"

That never crossed my mind as a thing, that that was a possibility. Because I think I looked at my business as a promotion, and I saw I was looking at launches as a launch. You launch it, and you make some money, then you got to create a new thing to launch. And I remember that was the first time it crossed my mind. And he didn't answer, and nobody answered. But I remember I was just like, "Oh, can you imagine what it'd be like to have sales coming in every single day? That'd be insane." And so, that's kind of the premise of what I'm talking about, because so many of you guys have a promotion or you've got something that sells every once in a while, but it's not like a business that's consistently generating cash, that you're consistently trying to grow. Right?

And so, yesterday, actually last two days, we hired a really cool company called Chamber Media. And they are basically a contract we're doing, one big ad campaign per month with them for the next 12 months. So, what that means is I go into the studio, they write a script, they create a whole thing, and then we film it. And we filmed the video, and then while we filmed the video, we filmed anywhere from six to 10 retargeting ads at the same time. Right? And so, the last two days we actually did two of them. Well, the first one is like a Mission Impossible thing, because we're using it to sell one funnel away challenge. So, I was high waisted. How you say that word? I was in the air in a harness, flying around like, like Tom Cruise from Mission Impossible.

And then, we filmed more stuff, it was so much fun. And then, yesterday was another one is kind of a first person shooter ad and... Anyway, so much fun. We did all things. And I remember at the end of it, they've got their behind the scenes video guy there filming behind the scenes and asking questions to people. And he asked me this question. He said, he's like, "Why do you guys spend so much money creating these funny ads? I just want to understand why you guys are doing this." And the second ad was for Expert Secrets, which is a book. And earlier today someone said, they're like, they've made a comment of like, "He signed a book that's free plus shipping. How was he able to spend this much money on an ad?"

And so when the other guy asked me that question on camera, I was thinking for a minute. I said, "You know what? Most people, they spend so much time creating the product. Right? If we write in the book like, Expert Secrets alone was like an 18 month project, right? So it's like a year and a half of your life is dedicated to creating this thing. And then you go out and you create the funnel. And for me, that's like, I geek out for a long time. So, it's 30 days of me geeking out, deep diving Funnel Hacking a million people, writing the copy, doing the videos, all the stuff, the funnel. And then, there's the next phase, there's all different things that go into, right? And then we launch it. We make a whole bunch of book sales. And then for most people that's where it stops. And for me, it's like, "Why I keep investing time and energy money, making new ads and driving new traffic and all these kind of things."

And it's like, if you think about it, it's because I love my products so much that I don't stop after we launched the product. Right? I want people to continue to read this book forever. I want millions and millions of copies sold. I want, when I'm dead, that there are still ads being run, my face on it, selling my books. In fact, I've told my team multiple times that if I die, they have permission to continue to run my ads every single day. That's my art, don't turn it off. I remember Billy Mays, who's probably one of the greatest pitchman of all time. When he passed away a couple of years ago, they cut all his ads. I think out of respect for him or for the family or something. But even OxiClean is number one best seller of all time, they cut all his OxiClean ads and put it in someone else.

And, and I was just like, "Dude, what?" Ah, Billy Mays as the greatest pitcher of all time, the way he would want his memory to be remembered is people running ads of him. He doesn't care if he's dead or not. That's his art. He wants it to live on beyond himself. And so if my team is listening to this and I've deceased at this point and you're like, "Should we run Russell's ad?" Yes. Keep running the ad. Don't stop it. This is my legacy. I want to continue. You can even add a meme video, from beyond the grave, Russell's coming back to tell you about this book. That's how important it is. I don't care. Keep running my ad. But anyway, I digress. And so that's the reason why I spend so much money, because I care about the product.

I don't want it just to be a promotion or one-off thing. Something that makes sales once in a while, I want this thing to sell consistently every single day for the rest of my life. Right? That's the big transformation in people's heads. And so, I think what happens in our world is, we spend so much time creating the product, right? So, we're trying to create a sales funnel, so much time creating the initial campaign that launches and sells it. And then we stop and we move on to the next thing. And in my mind is like, "What a tragedy. You spent so much of your blood, sweat and tears creating this thing." Like I told the guy in the camera, I was like, "My fingers literally were bleeding from writing this book." I don't want it to go down and as just a promotion, this is something that I want to keep pushing and keep driving and keep making sales.

And so, the question comes back is, what do we do next? After the thing is launched, where do we put our creativity? Is it the next product? The next thing? And the answer is no. You put your creativity into creating more creative, more ads, more things to go grab people and hook them and bring them into your world. Right? If you read Traffic Secrets, all about hook, story, offer. You already have the story, you already have offer. Now it's going out, and you got to create hook after hook after hook, after hook after hook to grab more people and bring them in to hear your story. Okay. So, the last part which never ends is the creation of hooks. You are creating hooks and hooks and hooks and hooks to keep grabbing people and bringing them into your world.

And that's where the creativity lies, I think us as entrepreneurs. And I'm as guilty as anybody. "My creativity is in the next book, the next project, the next funnel, the next thing." And it's like, "No, I need to shift more of my creativity into the next creative, the next ad, the next video, the next message. The next podcast, next thing is going to bring more people into my world." And so, in fact, it's funny, Steven Larsen, he messaged me yesterday on Voxer. He was like, "Dude, in the last..." I can't remember two and a half years or three years since he left ClickFunnels. He's like, "We've launched 90 funnels." He's like, "Only like three of them are making any money. So, we're like killing all the rest of them, and I'm going to start focusing my time on just creating more ads to sell those three that are actually making the money."

I was like, "Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about." And so, for most of you guys, you have something amazing. You've created something in the past. It's sitting there on the shelf, or in your ClickFunnels account that made money at once and stopped, or made a little bit, but not what you wanted, so you stopped. The answer's not, "Go make a new thing." It's, "Go create more ads, go create more videos, go talk more, make more noise, get your message out there. Throw out more hooks and hooks and hooks until you find the right hook." Recently watching Dean Graziosi's video from Funnel Hacking Live. He's talked about his book, Millionaire Success Habits. And they spent a year and a half, two years driving traffic to that book, and it did. Okay. Never did awesome. And he kept trying different ads, trying different ads.

And it was a year and a half, almost two years in that he did this ad that had a different message, right? It was just a shift on the positioning of how he positioned the thing. And that was the one that hit. And since that point they've sold 500,000 copies of the book or more. But it was just shifting the message. But he didn't know what messaging was right. It took him a year and a half of creating lots of hooks after hook, after hookup hook, after hook, before he found the one that blew it up. Right? And so sometimes we just stop too early. We try a hook, it doesn't work, we're like, "Oh, I'm out." It's like, "No, no, no, no. The product might not be wrong. The funnel might not be wrong. It's your hooks were wrong. Like how many hooks you can throw out today? Is it one? Is a two? Is it 10? Is it 100?"

Like, go create more of them. Put more out there, make more ads, create more videos, make more images. All the stuff we're doing, all the things happening around the product around the funnel are as important, if not more so. Well, they're definitely more so for your longterm consistency in sales, right? I think it was really fun yesterday, as we were creating these ads, every single scene of the ad, we'd create the ad, and then we would stop and we'd create retargeting ad right there. Right. And so for one video, we'd have six, seven retargeting ads. Today, I'm coming in, we have a landing page we're creating. And so, I'm trying to get his picture. So we're coming here, we're getting a picture. I was trying to like, "Give me the best hook for the pictures." So, I wore red shirt and red watch and red shoes, because to be bright, right?

And the picture, we have these colored, the big colored sticky notes, all these things. Because I'm trying to create a hook to grab people's attention. Right? And then Brandon's coming over with his video camera. And after, we had the pitches landing page, I'm going to create 30 different ads to get people to the landing page. Right? So it's going to be me showing them landing pages, talking about landing pages, and there's all these little micro ads will run on Facebook and YouTube and Instagram and everywhere. All talking about the picture that is the pitch on the landing page to get somebody to opt-in. Right? And so I'll probably create 30 different ads today, all going to the landing page that we're developing today. And that's it. Right? And I'll probably have 30 ads, and probably 20 retargeting ads.

So, it's just like, here's the one piece of content. Right? The landing page. But then from that landing page, we go back and we create 30 ads, 40 ads, 50 ads, all just pushing to the landing page. And they're all dumb. They're little, they're fun. And we have no idea which one is going to work, which ones aren't going to work. So, we just make a whole bunch of them. Right? And that's the secret. That's the key to longevity. So, anyway, I hope that I hope that helps. Especially if you guys who were frustrated, sales are down, you trying very hard to get consistency. You want to make this more of a, instead of a hobby, more of a full-time job. It's shifting your focus from the next product to the next ad, and putting in focus in your creativity there. So anyway, I hope that helps. Cool stuff happening and hope you guys are having great holidays. And now that said, I'm going to go inside and take some pictures and create some hooks, and hopefully sell some more books. I appreciate you all. And they'll talk to you soon.

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]]> 769 no RANT: Leaders Need To Make Decisions... Period https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/rant-leaders-need-to-make-decisions-period Late night rant. It’s time for the leaders to lead and to start actually making decisions. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm here today on a little bit of a rant. All right, everyone, normally I do these episodes in the morning when I'm driving to the office, things like that. But tonight it's late ... Later, not super late yet, but just got home from wrestling practice with the kids. Anyway, just because of three or four things happened today, it's top of my mind. And so I probably won't give all the exact examples because I don't want to point people out, but I want to point the concept out, because it's something that I think you, as a leader, me as a leader, we need to become better at. And so I think the best way to pre-frame this ... Actually, I'm going to step back to the book, Atlas Shrugged. So hopefully you guys had a chance to listen to the Atlas Shrugged interview that Josh Forti and I did, I posted it here on the podcast. And hopefully for a lot of you guys it got you into the book and got you reading. That was my goal, if I can get you guys reading it, that's more important. But one of the themes that happens a lot throughout the book ... Dagny Taggart, who's the main character in the book, she basically ran the railroad. And there was all these people that worked for her, and all these people. And not just people who worked for her, but the whole society as a whole, and nobody wants to make a decision. Nobody wants to be the person who gets in trouble. They don't want to have their neck on the lines. The train would be stuck or something and they can't get it going. And she comes out and she's like, "Why isn't it moving?" And it's like, "Well, because no one's told us to." And, "Well, just do it." "I can't, because then I'm going to be held responsible, I don't want to get in trouble." And she's like, "Do your job. We need to get this thing moving." "I don't want to because I don't want to get in trouble." And then they'd be like, "Well, will you take responsibility if I have a go, if I ... " Whatever it is. She's like, "Yes, I'll take responsibility." She was willing to take responsibility, and then because of that the train would go. But it was her coming in and taking responsibility. And one of the themes throughout the book is that ... That's the big thing is that nobody wants to take responsibility. Nobody will do something because they want somebody else to like, "Oh, well who's responsible if this goes wrong?" And they want to point to somebody else. And so that's a big thing. I'm not going to get political, but right now we're in this weird thing, this whole COVID season, which is annoying for so many reasons. But one of the things, I'm one of the wrestling coaches and my kids are wrestling and trying to be part of that. And there's these decisions that they're supposed to be making be made. Whatever the decision is, I will follow it and respect it and whatever. But the problem is nobody wants to make decisions. That's the problem, because nobody wants to be held responsible if this happens or this happens or whatever happens. And so even school starting here in Idaho this year, at least in the county that we're in, it got passed three or four times. School started two weeks later than they're supposed to, because nobody wanted to make a decision. No one wanted to be on their clock, "I don't want to be willing to get in trouble. I don't want to be ... " So you keep pushing it, pushing it, pushing it. And now we're seeing the same thing with athletics. These meetings were just like, "Make a decision," but nobody wants to make decisions. You can just pass another date, another date, another person. Nobody wants to just be like, "I'm going to be the one who's going to take responsibility for this decision." We see it in our lives, we see it in government, we see it in school, we see it everywhere. And I just want to pass this to you guys. This is the leaders, this the entrepreneurs, this the people who are trying to be the ones standing up and helping and serving people. The reason why you are called to do those things, because you have to be the ones to make decisions. You have to decide, you have to be willing to take responsibility for a choice. And so many people are scared. In fact, I see it so many times, even people that I coach. And so this is for you who I coach, who you're listening to me, I'm telling you this, because this is a pattern you have to become better at. A lot of people will sign up for coaching and they sign up for you because they want ... If it's going to fail, they want to be able to blame someone else. Let's say you sign for my coaching program. And you're in it and you're like, "Okay, I'm going to do Russell says, I'm going to follow it." And I have people who all time, "Hey, review my funnel. I don't want to launch, look at my funnel first. I want to make sure, I want to get your opinion. I want you to look at ... " They don't want to decide their own. They don't want to take the lead themselves. They always want to have somebody else look at it. So that way if it fails, they go, "Oh, well, Russell told me it was good, it wasn't. So it's his fault not mine." Knock that off. That's the reason why people aren't having more success in life, because you're trying to find somebody else to pass the blame onto. That's the problem. I want to make sure this is very, very clear. That is the problem. And so if you want to be successful in life, you've got to be willing to make a decision and stick with the consequences that happen with it. And sometimes it's hard, because sometimes you make the wrong decision. Many times in my life I've made the wrong decision. Many times in my business I've made the wrong decision. Many times inside of ClickFunnels I made the wrong decision. Many times with my family, with my parenting, I make bad decisions sometimes. I'm not perfect, but I'm willing to make the decision. That's the key, that's what makes you a leader, is being the one who's willing to make the decision and then you're the ones who's ultimately responsible with the consequences of that decision. And so that's the key you have to understand. That's what makes a leader great, not someone who gets the right decision right every single time. Someone who's willing to make decision and then be held accountable, that's the other side of it. I did an episode one time about Extreme Ownership, that book, Extreme Ownership, which is insanely good. But it comes back down to that thing, everyone wants to pass the buck and, "Well this is his fault or her fault, everyone else's fault." We have to stop that. We have to be willing ... Especially us, the people who are hearing the sound of my voice. You are the leaders, you are the entrepreneurs, you're the change makers, you're the people who are going to be changing this world. You have to be ones who are willing to say, "I'm going to make a decision, and I may be wrong but I'm going to make the decision. I'm not going to pass the buck. I'm not going to try to put it on somebody else, I'm going to take extreme ownership. This is the decision I'm going to make. These are the reasons why. And then I'm going to deal with the consequences and then go." And I know it's hard, it is really, really hard. I'm not perfect, I'm not saying that I am. But I see it, I understand. I see it so many times with people who join a coaching program or buy a product or whatever, because they're trying to be able to figure out, "Who can I pass the buck ... Who can I pass the blame on if this thing fails?" And it's like, "No, no, no, no, it's all on you." You have to understand, when all is said and done, it's all on you, a hundred percent of the time. So you can call it extreme ownership, you can call it making ... I don't care what it is, but you have to understand that it's on you. As soon as you're willing to take that on that's when you start on success. I look at the people in our community who are the most successful. They're the ones who are not looking ... They're not the ones who ... They seek after coaching. They are people who have been in my inner circle, they've been in my coaching programs, they've been in things. They're seeking that thing, not so they can, "If it fails, I have someone else to blame," which is why a lot of people do it. It's the opposite, it's like, "I want to come and make myself better and better and better so I can make the correct decisions. But ultimately the decision is mine, it's not Russell's, it's not somebody else's, it's my decision." And so you have to be the one. And so it's good if you're stepping into these things, coaching or whatever else, to be able to become better at making decisions by understanding the lay of the land better, understanding the strategies and the tactics so you can make the correct decision. But ultimately it is your decision. Until you the one willing to risk that and say that and do it, you are going to struggle. And so I just I want to put that out there because, man, I wish I could go and talk to the leaders, the government, the school system and all these kind of things. I don't, I don't have their voice. They're not my people, you're my people. And so while I'm angry and frustrated at other things, I want to bring this back to you. The same thing, and I see this inside companies, my own company, I see it in other people's companies, where there's this thing where they try to get buy-in by committee. So they come in and they have an idea and they get all their team together, "This is my idea, what do you guys think? Give me some feedback, I want to know." And they try to get feedback by committee. Oh, and I hate that, it drives me nuts. You as the leader should have the vision, you're not coming in getting feedback on a vision. This vision is yours, you are ultimately responsible for it. You come to your team, not with, "Hey, I think I have a vision, what do you guys think? Do you like this or not?" No. You come and say, "This is the vision. This is what I have decided." And everyone can line up and help me figure how to make this better and how to execute it correctly, but you're not having them figure out the vision and for you. That is your job, that is your calling, that is your responsibility. You understand that? And that's why I'm not a big believer in marketing by committee, it drives me nuts. Everyone someone's like, "Hey, let's get on a call, lets map out the strategy together to try and figure things out." It's like, "No, no, no. You have the strategy, come to me." I want to see your vision and I'll give you tweaks or changes, things like that, but this is not vision by committee, marketing by committee, product design by committee. No, no, no. That's not how it can work on how it should work. It's coming down to you as the leader setting the vision. You can take direction, you can learn, you can ask for feedback and get all the things you need to be able to make the correct decision, the best decision possible. But you have to understand, as a leader you're not coming in by committee trying to get everybody to decide on the vision or the direction or the marketing thing. You've got to be a leader, flat out. And so this is my calling to you. Leaders,, it's time to step up and lead. It's time to stop trying to outsource your decision-making to a committee or to a coach or to a whatever. Or just hiding from the commitment, trying to move it on, or like people inside Atlas Shrugged just sitting there waiting for Dagny, waiting for somebody who's willing to take the heat if it goes wrong. You got to be the ones willing to take that heat or else nothing's going to change. Sometimes it's going to happen. You're going to make a stupid decision, it happens. I made so many stupid decisions. I can walk you through them all, one day we will. But I'm still here. Why? Because I was willing to take the personal responsibility, "That was my mess up. I messed up. I'm dumb." I get it, but I learned from it and I figured out I kept going forward. It's not like, oh, the fear of, "Oh, I don't want to get in trouble. I don't want to get yelled at. I don't want this, I don't want this." And, "Who can I blame? I got to make someone else make a decision," or this or that or whatever. That's what most people want to do. That's not what we can or should be doing. And so that was the message for tonight. I guess that I've just a little mini rant. I was thinking about tonight and getting frustrated and it's like, "Ah, I got to vent somewhere." So you are my people, so you're the ones who understand what I'm talking about. And I think you can implement this and apply it for yourselves, for your team, for your people. It's time for the leaders to step up and become deciders and make decisions. And so this is my calling to you. No longer are you allowed to push blame on anybody else except for yourself. Don't try to position in a way where you're able to, don't try to blame it on anything else, it's always your fault. And that's the key, be willing to do that. And if you are that's how you're going to be able to make the changes in your own life and the people's lives you can call to serve. So that said, thank you guys. I appreciate you, thanks for listening. Got any value out of this, please, take a screenshot on your phone right now of the app as you're listening to it, so I can see which episode you are. And go on Facebook, Instagram, wherever you're at, tag me. I see all those, I love it. It's fun for me to see what your guys' biggest takeaways were, and hopefully this one resonated with you. For those of you guys who this episode was offensive, for some reason, I'm guaranteed there's always a percentage that what I say offends, there's a scripture that says, "The guilty taketh the truth to be hard because it cuts them to the very center." So instead, if this triggers you for some reason, it's probably because you passing the blame on other people. That's it. So the guilty take the truth to be hard, listen to that. Be like, "If this was hard for me, maybe this is where I'm struggling. Maybe I need to step back and figure this out for myself." Be coachable. It's a hard skill set to learn, but sit back and be coachable. If this felt weird for you, if you didn't enjoy it, if you felt whatever, I would recommend pausing for a second, sitting back and being coachable. Look at yourself, "Man, am I doing this? Is that why it bothered me? Is that why I'm struggling with this?" And so, look at yourself. And maybe I'm wrong, which is totally, totally possible. But from my experiences and I understand what I've done. What I've experienced in my life, this is what I believe is true, therefore I will share it with you and hopefully it'll resonate and serve you. So that said, appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and I'll talk to you guys all soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0000 RANT: Leaders Need To Make Decisions... Period full 374 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Late night rant. It’s time for the leaders to lead and to start actually making decisions. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome... Late night rant. It’s time for the leaders to lead and to start actually making decisions. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm here today on a little bit of a rant. All right, everyone, normally I do these episodes in the morning when I'm driving to the office, things like that. But tonight it's late ... Later, not super late yet, but just got home from wrestling practice with the kids. Anyway, just because of three or four things happened today, it's top of my mind. And so I probably won't give all the exact examples because I don't want to point people out, but I want to point the concept out, because it's something that I think you, as a leader, me as a leader, we need to become better at. And so I think the best way to pre-frame this ... Actually, I'm going to step back to the book, Atlas Shrugged. So hopefully you guys had a chance to listen to the Atlas Shrugged interview that Josh Forti and I did, I posted it here on the podcast. And hopefully for a lot of you guys it got you into the book and got you reading. That was my goal, if I can get you guys reading it, that's more important. But one of the themes that happens a lot throughout the book ... Dagny Taggart, who's the main character in the book, she basically ran the railroad. And there was all these people that worked for her, and all these people. And not just people who worked for her, but the whole society as a whole, and nobody wants to make a decision. Nobody wants to be the person who gets in trouble. They don't want to have their neck on the lines. The train would be stuck or something and they can't get it going. And she comes out and she's like, "Why isn't it moving?" And it's like, "Well, because no one's told us to." And, "Well, just do it." "I can't, because then I'm going to be held responsible, I don't want to get in trouble." And she's like, "Do your job. We need to get this thing moving." "I don't want to because I don't want to get in trouble." And then they'd be like, "Well, will you take responsibility if I have a go, if I ... " Whatever it is. She's like, "Yes, I'll take responsibility." She was willing to take responsibility, and then because of that the train would go. But it was her coming in and taking responsibility. And one of the themes throughout the book is that ... That's the big thing is that nobody wants to take responsibility. Nobody will do something because they want somebody else to like, "Oh, well who's responsible if this goes wrong?" And they want to point to somebody else. And so that's a big thing. I'm not going to get political, but right now we're in this weird thing, this whole COVID season, which is annoying for so many reasons. But one of the things, I'm one of the wrestling coaches and my kids are wrestling and trying to be part of that. And there's these decisions that they're supposed to be making be made. Whatever the decision is, I will follow it and respect it and whatever. But the problem is nobody wants to make decisions. That's the problem, because nobody wants to be held responsible if this happens or this happens or whatever happens. And so even school starting here in Idaho this year, at least in the county that we're in, it got passed three or four times. School started two weeks later than they're supposed to, because nobody wanted to make a decision. No one wanted to be on their clock, "I don't want to be willing to get in trouble. I don't want to be ... " So you keep pushing it, pushing it, pushing it. And now we're seeing the same thing with athletics. These meetings were just like, "Make a decision," but nobody wants to make decisions. You can just pass another date, another date, another person. Nobody wants to just be like, "I'm going to be the one who's going to take responsibility for this decision." We see it in our lives, we see it in government, we see it in school, we see it everywhere. And I just want to pass this to you guys. This is the leaders, this the entrepreneurs, this the people who are trying to be the ones standing up and helping and serving people. The reason why you are called to do those things, because you have to be the ones to make decisions. You have to decide, you have to be willing to take responsibility for a choice. And so many people are scared. In fact, I see it so many times, even people that I coach. And so this is for you who I coach, who you're listening to me, I'm telling you this, because this is a pattern you have to become better at. A lot of people will sign up for coaching and they sign up for you because they want ... If it's going to fail, they want to be able to blame someone else. Let's say you sign for my coaching program. And you're in it and you're like, "Okay, I'm going to do Russell says, I'm going to follow it." And I have people who all time, "Hey, review my funnel. I don't want to launch, look at my funnel first. I want to make sure, I want to get your opinion. I want you to look at ... " They don't want to decide their own. They don't want to take the lead themselves. They always want to have somebody else look at it. So that way if it fails, they go, "Oh, well, Russell told me it was good, it wasn't. So it's his fault not mine." Knock that off. That's the reason why people aren't having more success in life, because you're trying to find somebody else to pass the blame onto. That's the problem. I want to make sure this is very, very clear. That is the problem. And so if you want to be successful in life, you've got to be willing to make a decision and stick with the consequences that happen with it. And sometimes it's hard, because sometimes you make the wrong decision. Many times in my life I've made the wrong decision. Many times in my business I've made the wrong decision. Many times inside of ClickFunnels I made the wrong decision. Many times with my family, with my parenting, I make bad decisions sometimes. I'm not perfect, but I'm willing to make the decision. That's the key, that's what makes you a leader, is being the one who's willing to make the decision and then you're the ones who's ultimately responsible with the consequences of that decision. And so that's the key you have to understand. That's what makes a leader great, not someone who gets the right decision right every single time. Someone who's willing to make decision and then be held accountable, that's the other side of it. I did an episode one time about Extreme Ownership, that book, Extreme Ownership, which is insanely good. But it comes back down to that thing, everyone wants to pass the buck and, "Well this is his fault or her fault, everyone else's fault." We have to stop that. We have to be willing ... Especially us, the people who are hearing the sound of my voice. You are the leaders, you are the entrepreneurs, you're the change makers, you're the people who are going to be changing this world. You have to be ones who are willing to say, "I'm going to make a decision, and I may be wrong but I'm going to make the decision. I'm not going to pass the buck. I'm not going to try to put it on somebody else, I'm going to take extreme ownership. This is the decision I'm going to make. These are the reasons why. And then I'm going to deal with the consequences and then go." And I know it's hard, it is really, really hard. I'm not perfect, I'm not saying that I am. But I see it, I understand. I see it so many times with people who join a coaching program or buy a product or whatever, because they're trying to be able to figure out, "Who can I pass the buck ... Who can I pass the blame on if this thing fails?" And it's like, "No, no, no, no, it's all on you." You have to understand, when all is said and done, it's all on you, a hundred percent of the time. So you can call it extreme ownership, you can call it making ... I don't care what it is, but you have to understand that it's on you. As soon as you're willing to take that on that's when you start on success. I look at the people in our community who are the most successful. They're the ones who are not looking ... They're not the ones who ... They seek after coaching. They are people who have been in my inner circle, they've been in my coaching programs, they've been in things. They're seeking that thing, not so they can, "If it fails, I have someone else to blame," which is why a lot of people do it. It's the opposite, it's like, "I want to come and make myself better and better and better so I can make the correct decisions. But ultimately the decision is mine, it's not Russell's, it's not somebody else's, it's my decision." And so you have to be the one. And so it's good if you're stepping into these things, coaching or whatever else, to be able to become better at making decisions by understanding the lay of the land better, understanding the strategies and the tactics so you can make the correct decision. But ultimately it is your decision. Until you the one willing to risk that and say that and do it, you are going to struggle. And so I just I want to put that out there because, man, I wish I could go and talk to the leaders, the government, the school system and all these kind of things. I don't, I don't have their voice. They're not my people, you're my people. And so while I'm angry and frustrated at other things, I want to bring this back to you. The same thing, and I see this inside companies, my own company, I see it in other people's companies, where there's this thing where they try to get buy-in by committee. So they come in and they have an idea and they get all their team together, "This is my idea, what do you guys think? Give me some feedback, I want to know." And they try to get feedback by committee. Oh, and I hate that, it drives me nuts. You as the leader should have the vision, you're not coming in getting feedback on a vision. This vision is yours, you are ultimately responsible for it. You come to your team, not with, "Hey, I think I have a vision, what do you guys think? Do you like this or not?" No. You come and say, "This is the vision. This is what I have decided." And everyone can line up and help me figure how to make this better and how to execute it correctly, but you're not having them figure out the vision and for you. That is your job, that is your calling, that is your responsibility. You understand that? And that's why I'm not a big believer in marketing by committee, it drives me nuts. Everyone someone's like, "Hey, let's get on a call, lets map out the strategy together to try and figure things out." It's like, "No, no, no. You have the strategy, come to me." I want to see your vision and I'll give you tweaks or changes, things like that, but this is not vision by committee, marketing by committee, product design by committee. No, no, no. That's not how it can work on how it should work. It's coming down to you as the leader setting the vision. You can take direction, you can learn, you can ask for feedback and get all the things you need to be able to make the correct decision, the best decision possible. But you have to understand, as a leader you're not coming in by committee trying to get everybody to decide on the vision or the direction or the marketing thing. You've got to be a leader, flat out. And so this is my calling to you. Leaders,, it's time to step up and lead. It's time to stop trying to outsource your decision-making to a committee or to a coach or to a whatever. Or just hiding from the commitment, trying to move it on, or like people inside Atlas Shrugged just sitting there waiting for Dagny, waiting for somebody who's willing to take the heat if it goes wrong. You got to be the ones willing to take that heat or else nothing's going to change. Sometimes it's going to happen. You're going to make a stupid decision, it happens. I made so many stupid decisions. I can walk you through them all, one day we will. But I'm still here. Why? Because I was willing to take the personal responsibility, "That was my mess up. I messed up. I'm dumb." I get it, but I learned from it and I figured out I kept going forward. It's not like, oh, the fear of, "Oh, I don't want to get in trouble. I don't want to get yelled at. I don't want this, I don't want this." And, "Who can I blame? I got to make someone else make a decision," or this or that or whatever. That's what most people want to do. That's not what we can or should be doing. And so that was the message for tonight. I guess that I've just a little mini rant. I was thinking about tonight and getting frustrated and it's like, "Ah, I got to vent somewhere." So you are my people, so you're the ones who understand what I'm talking about. And I think you can implement this and apply it for yourselves, for your team, for your people. It's time for the leaders to step up and become deciders and make decisions. And so this is my calling to you. No longer are you allowed to push blame on anybody else except for yourself. Don't try to position in a way where you're able to, don't try to blame it on anything else, it's always your fault. And that's the key, be willing to do that. And if you are that's how you're going to be able to make the changes in your own life and the people's lives you can call to serve. So that said, thank you guys. I appreciate you, thanks for listening. Got any value out of this, please, take a screenshot on your phone right now of the app as you're listening to it, so I can see which episode you are. And go on Facebook, Instagram, wherever you're at, tag me. I see all those, I love it. It's fun for me to see what your guys' biggest takeaways were, and hopefully this one resonated with you. For those of you guys who this episode was offensive, for some reason, I'm guaranteed there's always a percentage that what I say offends, there's a scripture that says, "The guilty taketh the truth to be hard because it cuts them to the very center." So instead, if this triggers you for some reason, it's probably because you passing the blame on other people. That's it. So the guilty take the truth to be hard, listen to that. Be like, "If this was hard for me, maybe this is where I'm struggling. Maybe I need to step back and figure this out for myself." Be coachable. It's a hard skill set to learn, but sit back and be coachable. If this felt weird for you, if you didn't enjoy it, if you felt whatever, I would recommend pausing for a second, sitting back and being coachable. Look at yourself, "Man, am I doing this? Is that why it bothered me? Is that why I'm struggling with this?" And so, look at yourself. And maybe I'm wrong, which is totally, totally possible. But from my experiences and I understand what I've done. What I've experienced in my life, this is what I believe is true, therefore I will share it with you and hopefully it'll resonate and serve you. So that said, appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and I'll talk to you guys all soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Late night rant. It’s time for the leaders to lead and to start actually making decisions.

Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com

---Transcript---

Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I'm here today on a little bit of a rant. All right, everyone, normally I do these episodes in the morning when I'm driving to the office, things like that. But tonight it's late ... Later, not super late yet, but just got home from wrestling practice with the kids. Anyway, just because of three or four things happened today, it's top of my mind. And so I probably won't give all the exact examples because I don't want to point people out, but I want to point the concept out, because it's something that I think you, as a leader, me as a leader, we need to become better at.

And so I think the best way to pre-frame this ... Actually, I'm going to step back to the book, Atlas Shrugged. So hopefully you guys had a chance to listen to the Atlas Shrugged interview that Josh Forti and I did, I posted it here on the podcast. And hopefully for a lot of you guys it got you into the book and got you reading. That was my goal, if I can get you guys reading it, that's more important.

But one of the themes that happens a lot throughout the book ... Dagny Taggart, who's the main character in the book, she basically ran the railroad. And there was all these people that worked for her, and all these people. And not just people who worked for her, but the whole society as a whole, and nobody wants to make a decision. Nobody wants to be the person who gets in trouble. They don't want to have their neck on the lines. The train would be stuck or something and they can't get it going. And she comes out and she's like, "Why isn't it moving?" And it's like, "Well, because no one's told us to." And, "Well, just do it." "I can't, because then I'm going to be held responsible, I don't want to get in trouble." And she's like, "Do your job. We need to get this thing moving." "I don't want to because I don't want to get in trouble."

And then they'd be like, "Well, will you take responsibility if I have a go, if I ... " Whatever it is. She's like, "Yes, I'll take responsibility." She was willing to take responsibility, and then because of that the train would go. But it was her coming in and taking responsibility. And one of the themes throughout the book is that ... That's the big thing is that nobody wants to take responsibility. Nobody will do something because they want somebody else to like, "Oh, well who's responsible if this goes wrong?" And they want to point to somebody else. And so that's a big thing.

I'm not going to get political, but right now we're in this weird thing, this whole COVID season, which is annoying for so many reasons. But one of the things, I'm one of the wrestling coaches and my kids are wrestling and trying to be part of that. And there's these decisions that they're supposed to be making be made. Whatever the decision is, I will follow it and respect it and whatever. But the problem is nobody wants to make decisions. That's the problem, because nobody wants to be held responsible if this happens or this happens or whatever happens. And so even school starting here in Idaho this year, at least in the county that we're in, it got passed three or four times. School started two weeks later than they're supposed to, because nobody wanted to make a decision. No one wanted to be on their clock, "I don't want to be willing to get in trouble. I don't want to be ... " So you keep pushing it, pushing it, pushing it.

And now we're seeing the same thing with athletics. These meetings were just like, "Make a decision," but nobody wants to make decisions. You can just pass another date, another date, another person. Nobody wants to just be like, "I'm going to be the one who's going to take responsibility for this decision." We see it in our lives, we see it in government, we see it in school, we see it everywhere. And I just want to pass this to you guys. This is the leaders, this the entrepreneurs, this the people who are trying to be the ones standing up and helping and serving people. The reason why you are called to do those things, because you have to be the ones to make decisions. You have to decide, you have to be willing to take responsibility for a choice. And so many people are scared. In fact, I see it so many times, even people that I coach. And so this is for you who I coach, who you're listening to me, I'm telling you this, because this is a pattern you have to become better at.

A lot of people will sign up for coaching and they sign up for you because they want ... If it's going to fail, they want to be able to blame someone else. Let's say you sign for my coaching program. And you're in it and you're like, "Okay, I'm going to do Russell says, I'm going to follow it." And I have people who all time, "Hey, review my funnel. I don't want to launch, look at my funnel first. I want to make sure, I want to get your opinion. I want you to look at ... " They don't want to decide their own. They don't want to take the lead themselves. They always want to have somebody else look at it. So that way if it fails, they go, "Oh, well, Russell told me it was good, it wasn't. So it's his fault not mine."

Knock that off. That's the reason why people aren't having more success in life, because you're trying to find somebody else to pass the blame onto. That's the problem. I want to make sure this is very, very clear. That is the problem. And so if you want to be successful in life, you've got to be willing to make a decision and stick with the consequences that happen with it. And sometimes it's hard, because sometimes you make the wrong decision. Many times in my life I've made the wrong decision. Many times in my business I've made the wrong decision. Many times inside of ClickFunnels I made the wrong decision. Many times with my family, with my parenting, I make bad decisions sometimes.

I'm not perfect, but I'm willing to make the decision. That's the key, that's what makes you a leader, is being the one who's willing to make the decision and then you're the ones who's ultimately responsible with the consequences of that decision. And so that's the key you have to understand. That's what makes a leader great, not someone who gets the right decision right every single time. Someone who's willing to make decision and then be held accountable, that's the other side of it.

I did an episode one time about Extreme Ownership, that book, Extreme Ownership, which is insanely good. But it comes back down to that thing, everyone wants to pass the buck and, "Well this is his fault or her fault, everyone else's fault." We have to stop that. We have to be willing ... Especially us, the people who are hearing the sound of my voice. You are the leaders, you are the entrepreneurs, you're the change makers, you're the people who are going to be changing this world. You have to be ones who are willing to say, "I'm going to make a decision, and I may be wrong but I'm going to make the decision. I'm not going to pass the buck. I'm not going to try to put it on somebody else, I'm going to take extreme ownership. This is the decision I'm going to make. These are the reasons why. And then I'm going to deal with the consequences and then go."

And I know it's hard, it is really, really hard. I'm not perfect, I'm not saying that I am. But I see it, I understand. I see it so many times with people who join a coaching program or buy a product or whatever, because they're trying to be able to figure out, "Who can I pass the buck ... Who can I pass the blame on if this thing fails?" And it's like, "No, no, no, no, it's all on you." You have to understand, when all is said and done, it's all on you, a hundred percent of the time.

So you can call it extreme ownership, you can call it making ... I don't care what it is, but you have to understand that it's on you. As soon as you're willing to take that on that's when you start on success. I look at the people in our community who are the most successful. They're the ones who are not looking ... They're not the ones who ... They seek after coaching. They are people who have been in my inner circle, they've been in my coaching programs, they've been in things. They're seeking that thing, not so they can, "If it fails, I have someone else to blame," which is why a lot of people do it. It's the opposite, it's like, "I want to come and make myself better and better and better so I can make the correct decisions. But ultimately the decision is mine, it's not Russell's, it's not somebody else's, it's my decision." And so you have to be the one.

And so it's good if you're stepping into these things, coaching or whatever else, to be able to become better at making decisions by understanding the lay of the land better, understanding the strategies and the tactics so you can make the correct decision. But ultimately it is your decision. Until you the one willing to risk that and say that and do it, you are going to struggle. And so I just I want to put that out there because, man, I wish I could go and talk to the leaders, the government, the school system and all these kind of things. I don't, I don't have their voice. They're not my people, you're my people. And so while I'm angry and frustrated at other things, I want to bring this back to you.

The same thing, and I see this inside companies, my own company, I see it in other people's companies, where there's this thing where they try to get buy-in by committee. So they come in and they have an idea and they get all their team together, "This is my idea, what do you guys think? Give me some feedback, I want to know." And they try to get feedback by committee. Oh, and I hate that, it drives me nuts. You as the leader should have the vision, you're not coming in getting feedback on a vision. This vision is yours, you are ultimately responsible for it. You come to your team, not with, "Hey, I think I have a vision, what do you guys think? Do you like this or not?" No. You come and say, "This is the vision. This is what I have decided." And everyone can line up and help me figure how to make this better and how to execute it correctly, but you're not having them figure out the vision and for you. That is your job, that is your calling, that is your responsibility. You understand that?

And that's why I'm not a big believer in marketing by committee, it drives me nuts. Everyone someone's like, "Hey, let's get on a call, lets map out the strategy together to try and figure things out." It's like, "No, no, no. You have the strategy, come to me." I want to see your vision and I'll give you tweaks or changes, things like that, but this is not vision by committee, marketing by committee, product design by committee. No, no, no. That's not how it can work on how it should work. It's coming down to you as the leader setting the vision. You can take direction, you can learn, you can ask for feedback and get all the things you need to be able to make the correct decision, the best decision possible. But you have to understand, as a leader you're not coming in by committee trying to get everybody to decide on the vision or the direction or the marketing thing. You've got to be a leader, flat out.

And so this is my calling to you. Leaders,, it's time to step up and lead. It's time to stop trying to outsource your decision-making to a committee or to a coach or to a whatever. Or just hiding from the commitment, trying to move it on, or like people inside Atlas Shrugged just sitting there waiting for Dagny, waiting for somebody who's willing to take the heat if it goes wrong. You got to be the ones willing to take that heat or else nothing's going to change.

Sometimes it's going to happen. You're going to make a stupid decision, it happens. I made so many stupid decisions. I can walk you through them all, one day we will. But I'm still here. Why? Because I was willing to take the personal responsibility, "That was my mess up. I messed up. I'm dumb." I get it, but I learned from it and I figured out I kept going forward. It's not like, oh, the fear of, "Oh, I don't want to get in trouble. I don't want to get yelled at. I don't want this, I don't want this." And, "Who can I blame? I got to make someone else make a decision," or this or that or whatever. That's what most people want to do. That's not what we can or should be doing.

And so that was the message for tonight. I guess that I've just a little mini rant. I was thinking about tonight and getting frustrated and it's like, "Ah, I got to vent somewhere." So you are my people, so you're the ones who understand what I'm talking about. And I think you can implement this and apply it for yourselves, for your team, for your people. It's time for the leaders to step up and become deciders and make decisions. And so this is my calling to you. No longer are you allowed to push blame on anybody else except for yourself. Don't try to position in a way where you're able to, don't try to blame it on anything else, it's always your fault. And that's the key, be willing to do that. And if you are that's how you're going to be able to make the changes in your own life and the people's lives you can call to serve.

So that said, thank you guys. I appreciate you, thanks for listening. Got any value out of this, please, take a screenshot on your phone right now of the app as you're listening to it, so I can see which episode you are. And go on Facebook, Instagram, wherever you're at, tag me. I see all those, I love it. It's fun for me to see what your guys' biggest takeaways were, and hopefully this one resonated with you. For those of you guys who this episode was offensive, for some reason, I'm guaranteed there's always a percentage that what I say offends, there's a scripture that says, "The guilty taketh the truth to be hard because it cuts them to the very center." So instead, if this triggers you for some reason, it's probably because you passing the blame on other people.

That's it. So the guilty take the truth to be hard, listen to that. Be like, "If this was hard for me, maybe this is where I'm struggling. Maybe I need to step back and figure this out for myself." Be coachable. It's a hard skill set to learn, but sit back and be coachable. If this felt weird for you, if you didn't enjoy it, if you felt whatever, I would recommend pausing for a second, sitting back and being coachable. Look at yourself, "Man, am I doing this? Is that why it bothered me? Is that why I'm struggling with this?" And so, look at yourself. And maybe I'm wrong, which is totally, totally possible. But from my experiences and I understand what I've done. What I've experienced in my life, this is what I believe is true, therefore I will share it with you and hopefully it'll resonate and serve you. So that said, appreciate you all. Thanks for listening, and I'll talk to you guys all soon.

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]]> 857 no The Christmas Framework Episode https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-christmas-framework-episode As you watch your Christmas movies and think about your relationship with God, I hope that this will give you something interesting to think about. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And actually we're like a couple of days before Christmas. Instead of "Hey", maybe I should say, "Ho, ho, ho, Merry Christmas." And welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, everybody, we are getting ready for the holidays. I hope you are as well. I know this year has been nuts for pretty much everybody. And so I hope that we are, like me, looking forward to a time where we get to stop thinking and stressing and just think about our families for a little bit. I'm looking forward to it, and hopefully you are as well. Anyway, I'm telling you a story happened last night. It was kind of interesting. So I was, we were going to, my wife was actually, we were with the kids, it was after church and we're kind of getting the kids settled in. And we had a Christmas program at church, which was really nice, but kind of the tone in the house, hasn't been Christmasy and my wife, Colette, was just like, we need to do something so it feels like Christmas in here. And so she went and put in The Polar Express, which, obviously we've seen that a million times. It was kind of fun as a family to sit and watch it. And it was interesting as I was watching this, the whole concept is believe, and it's talking about believing in Santa and things like that. And I'm not going to talk too much about that, but I think that obviously all the things that are happening in the Christmas holiday are symbolic, right? It's the symbolism of gifts. And Christmas is representing Christ and him coming and him bringing the ultimate gift of his life to us and how amazing it is. And then our job is to believe in him and believe in that gift to believe in these things. And again, I know that there are different faiths and denominations listening to this, and if you're not Christian, that's okay. This is, if you were telling me some of your beliefs and no matter what you had, I would respect that and listen, and it wouldn't be offensive to me. So hopefully it's not to you either, but as a Christian, as someone who believes in Christ, I think that Christmas is all symbolic, obviously of him and this gift he brought and our job is to believe in him and then having a belief that our belief actually leads into actions, right? Like if you do believe him, then what does that mean about you? How are you going to try to change your life? How do you become a better person? How are you going to try to live? And it's interesting, as I was thinking about that, I was thinking, Christmas is such a type and shadow of Christ. And I started thinking about just how many other things throughout life are types and shadows of that, right? For those who read the Old Testament, you have the story of Abraham and Isaac and how he had to sacrifice his son. Right. And that is the type and shadow of when our heavenly Father had to sacrifice his son Christ. And throughout the Bible and through other scriptures, like there's all these types and shadows where things are happening and it's foreshadowing events that are happening later in time. Right. And it's so interesting. And I think that, I feel like we have this consistent, I don't know how to explain this correctly. Hopefully I don't mess this up too bad, but throughout our lives, there's these patterns that repeat themselves for us to see and to notice. Right. And it's interesting because my goal is not to get sacrilegious with it. So hopefully I'm not, but it's interesting, you guys are here listening to this podcast because you're entrepreneurs and you're trying to figure out how to market your business and things like that. And so what's the correlation for us, right? And you think about that, in the movie, The Polar Express, these kids are getting on a train and the train's moving forward. And one of the lines of the end is your job is not to think of the train, try to decide if the train's real or not, your job is just to get on the train. Right? And they go through the whole process and talk about how important is to believe. And you've got to believe in this thing you can't see yet and there's kind of the guy in the top of the Polar Express, who's like the opposite. He's the naysayer. He's like, if you can't see it, you can't believe it. You know? And there's kind of the light and the dark and a pulling in both directions. Right? And so obviously there's the spiritual journey that that's symbolizing, right? This is life. We're on this train. We're going towards something... You believe, you don't believe, there's people holding you away and all those kinds of things as you were going to this destination. But I think about it with business, how similar it is too. We come on this business and it's like, okay, the train's moving, right? All you guys were here, either you're on the train now, or you're watching the train go by. You're seeing stories of a person after person after person having success. And you're like, "I don't know what to do. I'd get on the train ride. I get off the train. Is that train even real? Like, is this stuff real what Russell's talking about? Is a fake? Are people actually having success? There's all these things, right. And the first step is your goal is not to try to believe that the trains real or not, it's just to get on the train, right. And so if you're not on the train, that's the first step. Then you get on the train and then it's like, I still think there's so many people that are skeptical. Oh, is this real? Is it not real? Like, do I believe, do I not believe? And it's like, you've got to believe, because if you don't believe, if you don't have faith first then your actions aren't going to follow. I think this might be real but I'm not really sure. The way that you pursue that is going to change, right. It's a reason why when we have faith in God, or in Christ, wherever you have faith in, right? If you have faith and you actually believe, you're going to do things differently. You're going to live differently. You can become someone different because you have belief in it. And if you're like, "Ah, this may or may not be." You're more skeptical, you're not going to take the steps you need to do. And the same thing is true in business. Like in business, if you're getting on this train and you're, "I think it's true, but I'm not really sure. I'm kind of going back and forth. Maybe it's a scam. Maybe it's not, maybe I'm successful, I'm not going to be able to be successful." All the things, right. If you don't have belief, you're not going to take the steps necessary to be successful. That's just, it's an eternal principle in anything, and it's true in... Obviously this is a business podcast, but is true in all aspects of life, right? With marriage. When you meet your spouse, your significant other, the person that you're going to marry, it's like, "Ah, do I get on the train? Do I not going on the train. Is this the right person?" It's like no, like you have to believe this is the right person. Right. You have to have belief in it. And then if you believe like this is your person that you're going to marry, this is my spouse, you do things differently. Right. You become someone different. And so it's true in all aspects of life, same with if you're going to school, if you're going into, I don't care what it is. And so I just, as I was watching, I was just like thinking how interesting it is. How we have these types and these shadows, that the process is the same though over and over and over again. Right? And so in this Christmas season, I just, I don't know, this is kind of a weird podcast to do, and I'm just nervous recording it. Maybe it makes no sense to you. But I think that these principles, as we use them in the Christmas thing, they're kind of funny and they're cute. We watched all the cartoons and the TV shows and there's that version of it. But if you look at it through the lens of like, this is a type and a shadow of my beliefs in God, or my beliefs in my business, or my beliefs in my spouse, my beliefs in myself, my own identity, my own... I can start looking at that. There's these really cool patterns that happen consistently over and over and over and over and over again. And maybe the movies talking about belief in something that may not actually be real, but it's, again, it's a fable, it's a story to illustrate something differently. Right. And so, I don't know, that's kind of been my interesting thing for me as I've been watching this and just looking at... I used to watch Christmas movies just for an enjoying thing, but I'm trying to look at them now, at least as of yesterday, like as a personal development seminar, right? Like what are the principles here? They're talking about belief, they're talking about faith, they're talking about, if you do have belief, like how does that change? If you have real faith, how does that change your actions? And then what's the fruits of that? Like what happens because of it? Right. And so, anyway, it's kind of interesting. So my challenge for you guys in this Christmas season, you guys are watching these things and having fun with your family is just start looking at it because it's something that you can use in different areas of your life, again, from your business, to your spiritual life, to your family life, to relationships. The pattern is there and it repeats itself over and over and over again. It's interesting. It's like when I was geeking out and doing all this study on the hero's two journeys, if I've done some episodes on that, but if you read the book, The Hero With a Thousand Faces, right, he talks about Joseph Campbell in that book, talks about if you look at all a story from like the beginning of time, until now, it doesn't matter what society, what language, what time, what era, the story frameworks are the same. And you see them over and over and over again, right? Almost all successful movie, book, folklore, myth, story, like they all follow the same pattern. I think for a lot of us, at least for me, I look and I'm like, that's really cool. I'm going to, this is the pattern that George Lucas used to build Star Wars. Like, it's really cool. There's the pattern. I see it. I'm going to go back and replicate it. But it's like, why is that pattern everywhere? Why has it been in our DNA as a society from the beginning of time till now? It doesn't matter what language, what society, what time, what era you live in that, that thing is there. And say, maybe it's just not a storyline that someone invented and taught everybody back way back in the day. Maybe it's a framework. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's something there. In fact, if you start looking at just The Hero With a Thousand Faces, right. That book or that framework, it's like, oh my gosh, like the reason why this storyline has been used so many times, it's because it's our storyline, it's your storyline. Right. You start looking at that and that's why we really connect with those movies, because we start seeing this over and over and over again, it's like, this is my story. And so, I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking things. Maybe it's out of place when we talk about this on a marketing podcast. But I just want you guys to, as you're watching movies and things, is just try to put yourself in that, how does this relate to your business, how does it relate to your life, how does it relate to your spirituality? How does really through relationship with a God? Because it does. And even though the stories may be goofy, maybe a reindeer with a red nose and maybe, whatever, the frameworks, the stories that you guys are hearing are based on true principles and there's there's truth in all these things. So anyway, there you go. I'm sure it offends someone. For you, I apologize. For everybody else, hope you enjoyed it. And if you got nothing from this, then just skip through it and listen to next episode after Christmas. But that said, Merry Christmas. I appreciate you guys all. I'm grateful to be here. Grateful, honestly, for your attention. The fact that you listen in this podcast means the world to me, hopefully you get value from it. And we have some new things coming up in the new year and moving forward to make the podcast even better, more exciting. So I'll keep you guys loop on that. With that said, if I don't talk to you before the end of the holidays, have a great holiday and we'll talk to you all again later. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Christmas Framework Episode full 373 Russell Brunson | YAP Media As you watch your Christmas movies and think about your relationship with God, I hope that this will give you something interesting to think about. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey... As you watch your Christmas movies and think about your relationship with God, I hope that this will give you something interesting to think about. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And actually we're like a couple of days before Christmas. Instead of "Hey", maybe I should say, "Ho, ho, ho, Merry Christmas." And welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, everybody, we are getting ready for the holidays. I hope you are as well. I know this year has been nuts for pretty much everybody. And so I hope that we are, like me, looking forward to a time where we get to stop thinking and stressing and just think about our families for a little bit. I'm looking forward to it, and hopefully you are as well. Anyway, I'm telling you a story happened last night. It was kind of interesting. So I was, we were going to, my wife was actually, we were with the kids, it was after church and we're kind of getting the kids settled in. And we had a Christmas program at church, which was really nice, but kind of the tone in the house, hasn't been Christmasy and my wife, Colette, was just like, we need to do something so it feels like Christmas in here. And so she went and put in The Polar Express, which, obviously we've seen that a million times. It was kind of fun as a family to sit and watch it. And it was interesting as I was watching this, the whole concept is believe, and it's talking about believing in Santa and things like that. And I'm not going to talk too much about that, but I think that obviously all the things that are happening in the Christmas holiday are symbolic, right? It's the symbolism of gifts. And Christmas is representing Christ and him coming and him bringing the ultimate gift of his life to us and how amazing it is. And then our job is to believe in him and believe in that gift to believe in these things. And again, I know that there are different faiths and denominations listening to this, and if you're not Christian, that's okay. This is, if you were telling me some of your beliefs and no matter what you had, I would respect that and listen, and it wouldn't be offensive to me. So hopefully it's not to you either, but as a Christian, as someone who believes in Christ, I think that Christmas is all symbolic, obviously of him and this gift he brought and our job is to believe in him and then having a belief that our belief actually leads into actions, right? Like if you do believe him, then what does that mean about you? How are you going to try to change your life? How do you become a better person? How are you going to try to live? And it's interesting, as I was thinking about that, I was thinking, Christmas is such a type and shadow of Christ. And I started thinking about just how many other things throughout life are types and shadows of that, right? For those who read the Old Testament, you have the story of Abraham and Isaac and how he had to sacrifice his son. Right. And that is the type and shadow of when our heavenly Father had to sacrifice his son Christ. And throughout the Bible and through other scriptures, like there's all these types and shadows where things are happening and it's foreshadowing events that are happening later in time. Right. And it's so interesting. And I think that, I feel like we have this consistent, I don't know how to explain this correctly. Hopefully I don't mess this up too bad, but throughout our lives, there's these patterns that repeat themselves for us to see and to notice. Right. And it's interesting because my goal is not to get sacrilegious with it. So hopefully I'm not, but it's interesting, you guys are here listening to this podcast because you're entrepreneurs and you're trying to figure out how to market your business and things like that. And so what's the correlation for us, right? And you think about that, in the movie, The Polar Express, these kids are getting on a train and the train's moving forward. And one of the lines of the end is your job is not to think of the train, try to decide if the train's real or not, your job is just to get on the train. Right? And they go through the whole process and talk about how important is to believe. And you've got to believe in this thing you can't see yet and there's kind of the guy in the top of the Polar Express, who's like the opposite. He's the naysayer. He's like, if you can't see it, you can't believe it. You know? And there's kind of the light and the dark and a pulling in both directions. Right? And so obviously there's the spiritual journey that that's symbolizing, right? This is life. We're on this train. We're going towards something... You believe, you don't believe, there's people holding you away and all those kinds of things as you were going to this destination. But I think about it with business, how similar it is too. We come on this business and it's like, okay, the train's moving, right? All you guys were here, either you're on the train now, or you're watching the train go by. You're seeing stories of a person after person after person having success. And you're like, "I don't know what to do. I'd get on the train ride. I get off the train. Is that train even real? Like, is this stuff real what Russell's talking about? Is a fake? Are people actually having success? There's all these things, right. And the first step is your goal is not to try to believe that the trains real or not, it's just to get on the train, right. And so if you're not on the train, that's the first step. Then you get on the train and then it's like, I still think there's so many people that are skeptical. Oh, is this real? Is it not real? Like, do I believe, do I not believe? And it's like, you've got to believe, because if you don't believe, if you don't have faith first then your actions aren't going to follow. I think this might be real but I'm not really sure. The way that you pursue that is going to change, right. It's a reason why when we have faith in God, or in Christ, wherever you have faith in, right? If you have faith and you actually believe, you're going to do things differently. You're going to live differently. You can become someone different because you have belief in it. And if you're like, "Ah, this may or may not be." You're more skeptical, you're not going to take the steps you need to do. And the same thing is true in business. Like in business, if you're getting on this train and you're, "I think it's true, but I'm not really sure. I'm kind of going back and forth. Maybe it's a scam. Maybe it's not, maybe I'm successful, I'm not going to be able to be successful." All the things, right. If you don't have belief, you're not going to take the steps necessary to be successful. That's just, it's an eternal principle in anything, and it's true in... Obviously this is a business podcast, but is true in all aspects of life, right? With marriage. When you meet your spouse, your significant other, the person that you're going to marry, it's like, "Ah, do I get on the train? Do I not going on the train. Is this the right person?" It's like no, like you have to believe this is the right person. Right. You have to have belief in it. And then if you believe like this is your person that you're going to marry, this is my spouse, you do things differently. Right. You become someone different. And so it's true in all aspects of life, same with if you're going to school, if you're going into, I don't care what it is. And so I just, as I was watching, I was just like thinking how interesting it is. How we have these types and these shadows, that the process is the same though over and over and over again. Right? And so in this Christmas season, I just, I don't know, this is kind of a weird podcast to do, and I'm just nervous recording it. Maybe it makes no sense to you. But I think that these principles, as we use them in the Christmas thing, they're kind of funny and they're cute. We watched all the cartoons and the TV shows and there's that version of it. But if you look at it through the lens of like, this is a type and a shadow of my beliefs in God, or my beliefs in my business, or my beliefs in my spouse, my beliefs in myself, my own identity, my own... I can start looking at that. There's these really cool patterns that happen consistently over and over and over and over and over again. And maybe the movies talking about belief in something that may not actually be real, but it's, again, it's a fable, it's a story to illustrate something differently. Right. And so, I don't know, that's kind of been my interesting thing for me as I've been watching this and just looking at... I used to watch Christmas movies just for an enjoying thing, but I'm trying to look at them now, at least as of yesterday, like as a personal development seminar, right? Like what are the principles here? They're talking about belief, they're talking about faith, they're talking about, if you do have belief, like how does that change? If you have real faith, how does that change your actions? And then what's the fruits of that? Like what happens because of it? Right. And so, anyway, it's kind of interesting. So my challenge for you guys in this Christmas season, you guys are watching these things and having fun with your family is just start looking at it because it's something that you can use in different areas of your life, again, from your business, to your spiritual life, to your family life, to relationships. The pattern is there and it repeats itself over and over and over again. It's interesting. It's like when I was geeking out and doing all this study on the hero's two journeys, if I've done some episodes on that, but if you read the book, The Hero With a Thousand Faces, right, he talks about Joseph Campbell in that book, talks about if you look at all a story from like the beginning of time, until now, it doesn't matter what society, what language, what time, what era, the story frameworks are the same. And you see them over and over and over again, right? Almost all successful movie, book, folklore, myth, story, like they all follow the same pattern. I think for a lot of us, at least for me, I look and I'm like, that's really cool. I'm going to, this is the pattern that George Lucas used to build Star Wars. Like, it's really cool. There's the pattern. I see it. I'm going to go back and replicate it. But it's like, why is that pattern everywhere? Why has it been in our DNA as a society from the beginning of time till now? It doesn't matter what language, what society, what time, what era you live in that, that thing is there. And say, maybe it's just not a storyline that someone invented and taught everybody back way back in the day. Maybe it's a framework. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's something there. In fact, if you start looking at just The Hero With a Thousand Faces, right. That book or that framework, it's like, oh my gosh, like the reason why this storyline has been used so many times, it's because it's our storyline, it's your storyline. Right. You start looking at that and that's why we really connect with those movies, because we start seeing this over and over and over again, it's like, this is my story. And so, I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking things. Maybe it's out of place when we talk about this on a marketing podcast. But I just want you guys to, as you're watching movies and things, is just try to put yourself in that, how does this relate to your business, how does it relate to your life, how does it relate to your spirituality? How does really through relationship with a God? Because it does. And even though the stories may be goofy, maybe a reindeer with a red nose and maybe, whatever, the frameworks, the stories that you guys are hearing are based on true principles and there's there's truth in all these things. So anyway, there you go. I'm sure it offends someone. For you, I apologize. For everybody else, hope you enjoyed it. And if you got nothing from this, then just skip through it and listen to next episode after Christmas. But that said, Merry Christmas. I appreciate you guys all. I'm grateful to be here. Grateful, honestly, for your attention. The fact that you listen in this podcast means the world to me, hopefully you get value from it. And we have some new things coming up in the new year and moving forward to make the podcast even better, more exciting. So I'll keep you guys loop on that. With that said, if I don't talk to you before the end of the holidays, have a great holiday and we'll talk to you all again later. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As you watch your Christmas movies and think about your relationship with God, I hope that this will give you something interesting to think about.

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---Transcript---

Hey everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And actually we're like a couple of days before Christmas. Instead of "Hey", maybe I should say, "Ho, ho, ho, Merry Christmas." And welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, everybody, we are getting ready for the holidays. I hope you are as well. I know this year has been nuts for pretty much everybody. And so I hope that we are, like me, looking forward to a time where we get to stop thinking and stressing and just think about our families for a little bit. I'm looking forward to it, and hopefully you are as well.

Anyway, I'm telling you a story happened last night. It was kind of interesting. So I was, we were going to, my wife was actually, we were with the kids, it was after church and we're kind of getting the kids settled in. And we had a Christmas program at church, which was really nice, but kind of the tone in the house, hasn't been Christmasy and my wife, Colette, was just like, we need to do something so it feels like Christmas in here. And so she went and put in The Polar Express, which, obviously we've seen that a million times. It was kind of fun as a family to sit and watch it. And it was interesting as I was watching this, the whole concept is believe, and it's talking about believing in Santa and things like that. And I'm not going to talk too much about that, but I think that obviously all the things that are happening in the Christmas holiday are symbolic, right? It's the symbolism of gifts. And Christmas is representing Christ and him coming and him bringing the ultimate gift of his life to us and how amazing it is.

And then our job is to believe in him and believe in that gift to believe in these things. And again, I know that there are different faiths and denominations listening to this, and if you're not Christian, that's okay. This is, if you were telling me some of your beliefs and no matter what you had, I would respect that and listen, and it wouldn't be offensive to me. So hopefully it's not to you either, but as a Christian, as someone who believes in Christ, I think that Christmas is all symbolic, obviously of him and this gift he brought and our job is to believe in him and then having a belief that our belief actually leads into actions, right? Like if you do believe him, then what does that mean about you? How are you going to try to change your life? How do you become a better person? How are you going to try to live?

And it's interesting, as I was thinking about that, I was thinking, Christmas is such a type and shadow of Christ. And I started thinking about just how many other things throughout life are types and shadows of that, right? For those who read the Old Testament, you have the story of Abraham and Isaac and how he had to sacrifice his son. Right. And that is the type and shadow of when our heavenly Father had to sacrifice his son Christ. And throughout the Bible and through other scriptures, like there's all these types and shadows where things are happening and it's foreshadowing events that are happening later in time. Right. And it's so interesting.

And I think that, I feel like we have this consistent, I don't know how to explain this correctly. Hopefully I don't mess this up too bad, but throughout our lives, there's these patterns that repeat themselves for us to see and to notice. Right. And it's interesting because my goal is not to get sacrilegious with it. So hopefully I'm not, but it's interesting, you guys are here listening to this podcast because you're entrepreneurs and you're trying to figure out how to market your business and things like that. And so what's the correlation for us, right? And you think about that, in the movie, The Polar Express, these kids are getting on a train and the train's moving forward. And one of the lines of the end is your job is not to think of the train, try to decide if the train's real or not, your job is just to get on the train. Right?

And they go through the whole process and talk about how important is to believe. And you've got to believe in this thing you can't see yet and there's kind of the guy in the top of the Polar Express, who's like the opposite. He's the naysayer. He's like, if you can't see it, you can't believe it. You know? And there's kind of the light and the dark and a pulling in both directions. Right? And so obviously there's the spiritual journey that that's symbolizing, right? This is life. We're on this train. We're going towards something... You believe, you don't believe, there's people holding you away and all those kinds of things as you were going to this destination.

But I think about it with business, how similar it is too. We come on this business and it's like, okay, the train's moving, right? All you guys were here, either you're on the train now, or you're watching the train go by. You're seeing stories of a person after person after person having success. And you're like, "I don't know what to do. I'd get on the train ride. I get off the train. Is that train even real? Like, is this stuff real what Russell's talking about? Is a fake? Are people actually having success? There's all these things, right. And the first step is your goal is not to try to believe that the trains real or not, it's just to get on the train, right. And so if you're not on the train, that's the first step. Then you get on the train and then it's like, I still think there's so many people that are skeptical. Oh, is this real? Is it not real? Like, do I believe, do I not believe?

And it's like, you've got to believe, because if you don't believe, if you don't have faith first then your actions aren't going to follow. I think this might be real but I'm not really sure. The way that you pursue that is going to change, right. It's a reason why when we have faith in God, or in Christ, wherever you have faith in, right? If you have faith and you actually believe, you're going to do things differently. You're going to live differently. You can become someone different because you have belief in it. And if you're like, "Ah, this may or may not be." You're more skeptical, you're not going to take the steps you need to do. And the same thing is true in business. Like in business, if you're getting on this train and you're, "I think it's true, but I'm not really sure. I'm kind of going back and forth. Maybe it's a scam. Maybe it's not, maybe I'm successful, I'm not going to be able to be successful." All the things, right. If you don't have belief, you're not going to take the steps necessary to be successful. That's just, it's an eternal principle in anything, and it's true in...

Obviously this is a business podcast, but is true in all aspects of life, right? With marriage. When you meet your spouse, your significant other, the person that you're going to marry, it's like, "Ah, do I get on the train? Do I not going on the train. Is this the right person?" It's like no, like you have to believe this is the right person. Right. You have to have belief in it. And then if you believe like this is your person that you're going to marry, this is my spouse, you do things differently. Right. You become someone different.

And so it's true in all aspects of life, same with if you're going to school, if you're going into, I don't care what it is. And so I just, as I was watching, I was just like thinking how interesting it is. How we have these types and these shadows, that the process is the same though over and over and over again. Right?

And so in this Christmas season, I just, I don't know, this is kind of a weird podcast to do, and I'm just nervous recording it. Maybe it makes no sense to you. But I think that these principles, as we use them in the Christmas thing, they're kind of funny and they're cute. We watched all the cartoons and the TV shows and there's that version of it. But if you look at it through the lens of like, this is a type and a shadow of my beliefs in God, or my beliefs in my business, or my beliefs in my spouse, my beliefs in myself, my own identity, my own... I can start looking at that.

There's these really cool patterns that happen consistently over and over and over and over and over again. And maybe the movies talking about belief in something that may not actually be real, but it's, again, it's a fable, it's a story to illustrate something differently. Right. And so, I don't know, that's kind of been my interesting thing for me as I've been watching this and just looking at... I used to watch Christmas movies just for an enjoying thing, but I'm trying to look at them now, at least as of yesterday, like as a personal development seminar, right? Like what are the principles here? They're talking about belief, they're talking about faith, they're talking about, if you do have belief, like how does that change? If you have real faith, how does that change your actions? And then what's the fruits of that? Like what happens because of it? Right.

And so, anyway, it's kind of interesting. So my challenge for you guys in this Christmas season, you guys are watching these things and having fun with your family is just start looking at it because it's something that you can use in different areas of your life, again, from your business, to your spiritual life, to your family life, to relationships. The pattern is there and it repeats itself over and over and over again.

It's interesting. It's like when I was geeking out and doing all this study on the hero's two journeys, if I've done some episodes on that, but if you read the book, The Hero With a Thousand Faces, right, he talks about Joseph Campbell in that book, talks about if you look at all a story from like the beginning of time, until now, it doesn't matter what society, what language, what time, what era, the story frameworks are the same.

And you see them over and over and over again, right? Almost all successful movie, book, folklore, myth, story, like they all follow the same pattern. I think for a lot of us, at least for me, I look and I'm like, that's really cool. I'm going to, this is the pattern that George Lucas used to build Star Wars. Like, it's really cool. There's the pattern. I see it. I'm going to go back and replicate it. But it's like, why is that pattern everywhere? Why has it been in our DNA as a society from the beginning of time till now? It doesn't matter what language, what society, what time, what era you live in that, that thing is there. And say, maybe it's just not a storyline that someone invented and taught everybody back way back in the day. Maybe it's a framework. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's something there. In fact, if you start looking at just The Hero With a Thousand Faces, right. That book or that framework, it's like, oh my gosh, like the reason why this storyline has been used so many times, it's because it's our storyline, it's your storyline. Right. You start looking at that and that's why we really connect with those movies, because we start seeing this over and over and over again, it's like, this is my story.

And so, I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking things. Maybe it's out of place when we talk about this on a marketing podcast. But I just want you guys to, as you're watching movies and things, is just try to put yourself in that, how does this relate to your business, how does it relate to your life, how does it relate to your spirituality? How does really through relationship with a God? Because it does. And even though the stories may be goofy, maybe a reindeer with a red nose and maybe, whatever, the frameworks, the stories that you guys are hearing are based on true principles and there's there's truth in all these things.

So anyway, there you go. I'm sure it offends someone. For you, I apologize. For everybody else, hope you enjoyed it. And if you got nothing from this, then just skip through it and listen to next episode after Christmas. But that said, Merry Christmas. I appreciate you guys all. I'm grateful to be here. Grateful, honestly, for your attention. The fact that you listen in this podcast means the world to me, hopefully you get value from it. And we have some new things coming up in the new year and moving forward to make the podcast even better, more exciting. So I'll keep you guys loop on that. With that said, if I don't talk to you before the end of the holidays, have a great holiday and we'll talk to you all again later. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 780 no My Last Piece Of Content https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-last-piece-of-content Marley Jaxx recently asked me if I was to create one last piece of content to establish my legacy, what would it be? I hope you love it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, everybody. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right. I got a short one for you today, but it's one that I think you're going to love. Marley Jaxx had me speak at her live event and for my presentation, she did a QA, which was really fun. She asked a lot of really, really cool questions, but the very last question she asked me, I thought was really cool. The way I answered it was different than I think I would have in a normal situation, but for whatever reason, it came up. It's only, what, three and a half minutes long, but the question she asked me is, "If you were to create one last piece of content, one thing that your friends, your family, your followers, your legacy, that you could tell them, if you tell them anything, what would be the last piece of content you would create?" I gave her this response. I'm going to cue up the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to hear my thoughts on what the last piece of content I would create would be if I was about to leave this earth. Marley Jaxx: Your one last piece of content, what would you want to share with people? Russell: That's a really cool question. I think I wish I would have understood this when I started my journey because I didn't at all. In fact, it wasn't until probably two or three years ago that I started realizing it, but just how tied our businesses are to an actual mission from God. I always thought those were separate. I'm like, "There's God, and faith, and bleat, whatever, and then there's our careers." In my mind, it was always these separate things. It wasn't until two or three years in the ClickFunnels where I had an amazing coach who sat me down and was just like, "Do you not understand how these things are related?" I'm like, "No, they're separate. God doesn't care about how much money you make. God doesn't care about my business or whatever." She's an amazing coach. She sat me down and was just like, "I want you to understand. Look at this thing. These things you're creating, that you're doing, that you're making, as cool as we all think you are, you're not that smart. These are coming. You're getting inspiration from God that's leading you on a way because you've been called to change people's lives. You've been called the serve a group of people and you're coming out and you're serving them. Then when they bump into you, and you give them the shift, then their life changes, and this person's life changes. This is literally a calling from God who's taking you to help shift other people's lives." I was like, "It never crossed my mind." She's like, "Why in the world do you think 20 years ago you got excited about business. Were you excited about any kind of learning?" I'm like, "No, I hated reading." "Why do you have the biggest library I know?" I'm like, "Because for some reason this thing excited me and it became this insatiable desire. I couldn't stop. I was going to events, speaking in front of no people because I loved it so much and all these things." She helped me understand how tight those things are together. I know some people don't believe in God and that's okay. You can believe in whatever you want, but conceptually, those things are tied together. I think if I could sit down with myself 20 years ago or sit down to any entrepreneur and help them sit down and say, "Look, this is the deal. You think you're starting a business right now, but it's not that. You've been called to serve a group of entrepreneurs," or group of people or a group. We all have stewardship over somebody. We've been called. While most people, they get the calling and they freak out. They walk away and don't do anything with it, which is devastating, but for those who are doing it, you have this calling and it's scary. You will never feel worthy. You're like, "I'm not ready. I'm not worthy. I got imposter syndrome." Marley: Right. Russell: "Who am I to help these people? I'm struggling as much as they are, worse in some situations." All those things, right? You don't feel worthy, but all you know is that, "I've been called and I got to figure this out because if I don't do that, that stewardship will be taken away from me and it will be given someone else. Hopefully, that person will, but this is my calling. I need to figure this out." You look at that lens. It's like, "Oh my gosh. I have stewardship of these people. I need to serve them. I got to figure it out." That's when you start looking at all of the stuff differently, right? The content you're creating, it's like as scary as it is for you, how awkward you feel, it doesn't matter. This is your calling. You were called to serve some people, so get that thing out there. Put it out there and your people are going to hear you. In the New Testament, Christ talks about this. He says, "My sheep will hear my voice and they will come to me," right? It's the same thing for all of us. That's a true principle. I don't care what faith you are or what belief. That is a true principle. Your sheep will hear your voice. Marley: Yeah. Russell: Your job is not to convert the world of your way of thinking or anything. Your job is to get your message out there. If you do it consistently, your sheep will hear your voice. They'll come to you and you'll have a chance to change their life. I think if I could tell every entrepreneur, you are literally changing the lives of people you've been called to serve and this is not just your career versus whatever, but those things are interrelated, that's what I tell them all because then you'd care more. You'd work harder. You'd be more passionate because you realize that this is more than just me trying to make money. This is me changing people's lives. It would be that. Marley: That was a great way to end that. Mic drop. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0000 My Last Piece Of Content full 372 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Marley Jaxx recently asked me if I was to create one last piece of content to establish my legacy, what would it be? I hope you love it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey,... Marley Jaxx recently asked me if I was to create one last piece of content to establish my legacy, what would it be? I hope you love it. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, everybody. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right. I got a short one for you today, but it's one that I think you're going to love. Marley Jaxx had me speak at her live event and for my presentation, she did a QA, which was really fun. She asked a lot of really, really cool questions, but the very last question she asked me, I thought was really cool. The way I answered it was different than I think I would have in a normal situation, but for whatever reason, it came up. It's only, what, three and a half minutes long, but the question she asked me is, "If you were to create one last piece of content, one thing that your friends, your family, your followers, your legacy, that you could tell them, if you tell them anything, what would be the last piece of content you would create?" I gave her this response. I'm going to cue up the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to hear my thoughts on what the last piece of content I would create would be if I was about to leave this earth. Marley Jaxx: Your one last piece of content, what would you want to share with people? Russell: That's a really cool question. I think I wish I would have understood this when I started my journey because I didn't at all. In fact, it wasn't until probably two or three years ago that I started realizing it, but just how tied our businesses are to an actual mission from God. I always thought those were separate. I'm like, "There's God, and faith, and bleat, whatever, and then there's our careers." In my mind, it was always these separate things. It wasn't until two or three years in the ClickFunnels where I had an amazing coach who sat me down and was just like, "Do you not understand how these things are related?" I'm like, "No, they're separate. God doesn't care about how much money you make. God doesn't care about my business or whatever." She's an amazing coach. She sat me down and was just like, "I want you to understand. Look at this thing. These things you're creating, that you're doing, that you're making, as cool as we all think you are, you're not that smart. These are coming. You're getting inspiration from God that's leading you on a way because you've been called to change people's lives. You've been called the serve a group of people and you're coming out and you're serving them. Then when they bump into you, and you give them the shift, then their life changes, and this person's life changes. This is literally a calling from God who's taking you to help shift other people's lives." I was like, "It never crossed my mind." She's like, "Why in the world do you think 20 years ago you got excited about business. Were you excited about any kind of learning?" I'm like, "No, I hated reading." "Why do you have the biggest library I know?" I'm like, "Because for some reason this thing excited me and it became this insatiable desire. I couldn't stop. I was going to events, speaking in front of no people because I loved it so much and all these things." She helped me understand how tight those things are together. I know some people don't believe in God and that's okay. You can believe in whatever you want, but conceptually, those things are tied together. I think if I could sit down with myself 20 years ago or sit down to any entrepreneur and help them sit down and say, "Look, this is the deal. You think you're starting a business right now, but it's not that. You've been called to serve a group of entrepreneurs," or group of people or a group. We all have stewardship over somebody. We've been called. While most people, they get the calling and they freak out. They walk away and don't do anything with it, which is devastating, but for those who are doing it, you have this calling and it's scary. You will never feel worthy. You're like, "I'm not ready. I'm not worthy. I got imposter syndrome." Marley: Right. Russell: "Who am I to help these people? I'm struggling as much as they are, worse in some situations." All those things, right? You don't feel worthy, but all you know is that, "I've been called and I got to figure this out because if I don't do that, that stewardship will be taken away from me and it will be given someone else. Hopefully, that person will, but this is my calling. I need to figure this out." You look at that lens. It's like, "Oh my gosh. I have stewardship of these people. I need to serve them. I got to figure it out." That's when you start looking at all of the stuff differently, right? The content you're creating, it's like as scary as it is for you, how awkward you feel, it doesn't matter. This is your calling. You were called to serve some people, so get that thing out there. Put it out there and your people are going to hear you. In the New Testament, Christ talks about this. He says, "My sheep will hear my voice and they will come to me," right? It's the same thing for all of us. That's a true principle. I don't care what faith you are or what belief. That is a true principle. Your sheep will hear your voice. Marley: Yeah. Russell: Your job is not to convert the world of your way of thinking or anything. Your job is to get your message out there. If you do it consistently, your sheep will hear your voice. They'll come to you and you'll have a chance to change their life. I think if I could tell every entrepreneur, you are literally changing the lives of people you've been called to serve and this is not just your career versus whatever, but those things are interrelated, that's what I tell them all because then you'd care more. You'd work harder. You'd be more passionate because you realize that this is more than just me trying to make money. This is me changing people's lives. It would be that. Marley: That was a great way to end that. Mic drop. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Marley Jaxx recently asked me if I was to create one last piece of content to establish my legacy, what would it be? I hope you love it.

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---Transcript---

Hey, everybody. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right. I got a short one for you today, but it's one that I think you're going to love. Marley Jaxx had me speak at her live event and for my presentation, she did a QA, which was really fun. She asked a lot of really, really cool questions, but the very last question she asked me, I thought was really cool. The way I answered it was different than I think I would have in a normal situation, but for whatever reason, it came up.

It's only, what, three and a half minutes long, but the question she asked me is, "If you were to create one last piece of content, one thing that your friends, your family, your followers, your legacy, that you could tell them, if you tell them anything, what would be the last piece of content you would create?" I gave her this response. I'm going to cue up the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to hear my thoughts on what the last piece of content I would create would be if I was about to leave this earth.

Marley Jaxx:

Your one last piece of content, what would you want to share with people?

Russell:

That's a really cool question. I think I wish I would have understood this when I started my journey because I didn't at all. In fact, it wasn't until probably two or three years ago that I started realizing it, but just how tied our businesses are to an actual mission from God. I always thought those were separate. I'm like, "There's God, and faith, and bleat, whatever, and then there's our careers." In my mind, it was always these separate things. It wasn't until two or three years in the ClickFunnels where I had an amazing coach who sat me down and was just like, "Do you not understand how these things are related?" I'm like, "No, they're separate. God doesn't care about how much money you make. God doesn't care about my business or whatever."

She's an amazing coach. She sat me down and was just like, "I want you to understand. Look at this thing. These things you're creating, that you're doing, that you're making, as cool as we all think you are, you're not that smart. These are coming. You're getting inspiration from God that's leading you on a way because you've been called to change people's lives. You've been called the serve a group of people and you're coming out and you're serving them. Then when they bump into you, and you give them the shift, then their life changes, and this person's life changes. This is literally a calling from God who's taking you to help shift other people's lives."

I was like, "It never crossed my mind." She's like, "Why in the world do you think 20 years ago you got excited about business. Were you excited about any kind of learning?" I'm like, "No, I hated reading." "Why do you have the biggest library I know?" I'm like, "Because for some reason this thing excited me and it became this insatiable desire. I couldn't stop. I was going to events, speaking in front of no people because I loved it so much and all these things." She helped me understand how tight those things are together. I know some people don't believe in God and that's okay. You can believe in whatever you want, but conceptually, those things are tied together.

I think if I could sit down with myself 20 years ago or sit down to any entrepreneur and help them sit down and say, "Look, this is the deal. You think you're starting a business right now, but it's not that. You've been called to serve a group of entrepreneurs," or group of people or a group. We all have stewardship over somebody. We've been called. While most people, they get the calling and they freak out. They walk away and don't do anything with it, which is devastating, but for those who are doing it, you have this calling and it's scary. You will never feel worthy. You're like, "I'm not ready. I'm not worthy. I got imposter syndrome."

Marley:

Right.

Russell:

"Who am I to help these people? I'm struggling as much as they are, worse in some situations." All those things, right? You don't feel worthy, but all you know is that, "I've been called and I got to figure this out because if I don't do that, that stewardship will be taken away from me and it will be given someone else. Hopefully, that person will, but this is my calling. I need to figure this out." You look at that lens. It's like, "Oh my gosh. I have stewardship of these people. I need to serve them. I got to figure it out." That's when you start looking at all of the stuff differently, right? The content you're creating, it's like as scary as it is for you, how awkward you feel, it doesn't matter. This is your calling. You were called to serve some people, so get that thing out there. Put it out there and your people are going to hear you.

In the New Testament, Christ talks about this. He says, "My sheep will hear my voice and they will come to me," right? It's the same thing for all of us. That's a true principle. I don't care what faith you are or what belief. That is a true principle. Your sheep will hear your voice.

Marley:

Yeah.

Russell:

Your job is not to convert the world of your way of thinking or anything. Your job is to get your message out there. If you do it consistently, your sheep will hear your voice. They'll come to you and you'll have a chance to change their life. I think if I could tell every entrepreneur, you are literally changing the lives of people you've been called to serve and this is not just your career versus whatever, but those things are interrelated, that's what I tell them all because then you'd care more. You'd work harder. You'd be more passionate because you realize that this is more than just me trying to make money. This is me changing people's lives. It would be that.

Marley:

That was a great way to end that. Mic drop.

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]]> 407 no A Private Workshop With Nick Santonastasso And My Kids https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-private-workshop-with-nick-santonastasso-and-my-kids We were lucky enough to have Nick Santonastasso come to my house and wrestle with me, and give my kids a private workshop. Listen in behind the scenes and hopefully it will change your life like it did ours. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And Oh boy, do I have a treat for you guys today. So the guest for the podcast is my new friend and wrestling partner, Nick Santonastasso. And he's someone who I had a chance to... I've seen him online a whole bunch of times and a whole bunch of different places. And then he reached out to me out of the blue and said, "Hey, Russell, come out and interview for my podcast." And I knew that he wrestled, and I was like, "Dude. Yes." And I was excited. I'm like, "Yeah, I love your message. Love who you are. I love what you stand for." And he's like, "If you want I'll actually fly out to Boise." And at the time I was just sitting in my wrestling room, I knew he's a wrestler. And I was like, "Dude, how about this? You come out and then you can interview me for your podcast. And then I'll actually wrestle you in my wrestling room?" And he was like, "Yeah, that'd be amazing." And so we planned this whole thing out. And the week before Thanksgiving, he flew out here to Boise and I did an interview for his podcast. And then we came back to my wrestling room and wrestled. And obviously, my entire family wanted to meet him and to see him. If you haven't met Nick before, he has no legs and he only has one arm, and his story is amazing. And the fact that he was a wrestler is even cooler. And so me and him wrestled. And after we got into wrestling, we had so much fun, then everyone, my kids and my wife and my parents were there and everybody had a million questions for him. So I said, "How about this? Let's do a little mini seminar with my kids to be willing to." And he's like, "Sure." And so we pulled up the mats and the crash pads and the box jumps, and we had everybody sit on them, and then Nick had a chance to tell us some of the story and talk to the kids at a really cool level. And it was really fun. One of my kids was really nervous asking questions. He thought I was going to get mad at him. Anyway, it's fun. You have a chance to hear from kids, you ask him questions and hear Nick's story. And I hope that you love it. It was one of the highlights of my year, super special opportunity for me and for my family to have a chance to meet someone like Nick and to hear his story. And it's just a huge blessing that I think he gave me to be able to have him talk to my kids. And so I wanted to share this with you guys, because a lot of you guys have kids, a lot of you guys are kids and a lot of you guys have different situations. And I hope that some of the things that Nick shared with me and my family, it'll mean a lot to you as well. So with that said, we're going to cue the theme song. And we come back, you have a chance to sit in, into a private discussion with my kids and Nick as they talk about life, motivation about doing your best, a whole bunch of other cool things. So with that said, we'll cue the theme song. We'll be right back. Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. I'm here in our wrestling room right now with a bunch of my kids and cousins and friends, because we've got a special guest in town, in Boise today who I just got done wrestling, which was so much fun. And this is Nick. We had a great time. And thanks for coming and hanging out with us here in Boise and talking to all the kids. Nick Santonastasso: You got it. Russell: So kind of the game plan we want to do is I wanted my kids to get to know him and hear some of his stories and stuff for so many reasons. And so I'd love to begin with, if you want to tell them little about your story, about your life, growing up wrestling, and just some of the background. And then I got some cool questions about other stuff I want to talk about too. Nick: Yeah. Great. It's pretty open-ended when he said share your story. I got a long story. And so I'll give you a little context of why I was born like this. And yes, I was born like this. I didn't wrestle no sharks or anything. I see we got some laughs. I'm 24 years old. In 1996, my mom went in for a late ultrasound, and a ultrasound is where they see the baby inside the stomach. And they sat my parents down and said, "Something's really wrong." And they said, "From the looks of it, it doesn't look like your baby's limbs are being developed. It looks like he's missing his legs, his arm, and his face might be messed up." Clearly, my face isn't messed up. Right? And so what they did was they classified me with what they call Hanhart syndrome. And Hanhart syndrome is a super rare genetic disorder that either leaves the babies with undeveloped limbs or undeveloped organs. And so that means the babies are either born with a heart that can't beat on its own or their stomach can't process food on its own, and they later on pass away. And so they told my parents that their baby boy has about a 30% chance to live. And so I was born and the test of my organs came back 100% healthy, and the only thing that was affected were my limbs. And so I was born in this unicorn body of no legs and one arm. And all my organs are 100% healthy. Always the lesson behind that is the doctor said it had about a 30% chance to live. And my parents made a massive promise. And that promise was that they were going to focus on the 30% chance of me living rather than the what? Dallin: You dying. Nick: Exactly. You dying. Exactly. The aggressive way to say it. And so the 70% of me dying. Exactly. And so in life, that's the... Ooh, careful. I know you beat me up earlier, but stay on here. And so the little lesson is, would you agree that in your life, there's always something bad that you can focus on? Would you agree? And would you agree that there's always something good that you can focus on? And so the majority of humans, and you can agree, the majority of adults always focus on the negative stuff. And so if we can train our brain to always focus on the good things, then we always win. And so that was how I was born. And then getting into wrestling, when I got into middle school and high school, which some of you, when you get into middle school and high school, at that time, a big portion of life was boyfriends and girlfriends. Awkward phase, getting into middle school and high school. I see people getting awkward. It's awkward. And so I felt like I stood out. Well, I clearly stood out because I have no legs, one arm. And there was a specific moment where I was on the bus and there was a girl to the left of me and she was making fun of everyone on the bus. And I'm like, "Oh my God, she's going to have a field day with me." And she looked over to me and she said, "Nick, I don't even have to start with you. You're already too messed up anyway. Look at you." And I'm only a 14, 15 year old kid. And the first question that pops in my head is, why me? Have you ever asked yourself, like, "Why is this happening to me?" And so I asked myself, "Why is this happening to me?" And from that moment of one girl making fun of me, I thought things like, "Oh, I'm disgusting. I'll never have a girlfriend. I'll never go to a school dance. I'll never be able to walk my girlfriend to her locker because I can't walk. And she want to hold my finger. Is that weird?" I just started thinking about all these negative things. And so for the majority of my life, I felt my body, my no legs and one arm was the most disgusting thing, the biggest curse that life could give me. And then I was able to reframe it. And what reframing is, is say you have a bad event happen in your life. And I had the same thing happen to me. You could see all the good and I could see all the bad, it's what we focus on, yes? And so I realized a couple of years later that if a girl doesn't want to be my girlfriend, or if someone doesn't want to do business with me because of my no legs, one arm, well, wait, maybe this disability or whatever you want to call it is actually working for me and it's filtering out the type of human and womens that I don't want in my life anyway. And so when you show up authentic, when you show up transparent and you show up yourself, would you agree that the universe makes it very easy to see who's your friend and who's not your friend? I mean, have you ever had a situation in school where you thought someone was your friend and they no longer was? Has that ever happened? And that means that we don't want those people in our life. And then you also have people in your life that love on you. Anyone have good friends here? I hope. Raise your hands. That's because you show up yourself. And so I have a quote on my arm. It says, "You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same." And that's not me making fun of people with legs and arms, but what I'm saying is the best thing you could be, the most authentic thing you could be as who? Who do you think? Were you listening? You. You. You show up, Norah, and you're the greatest Norah that the world has ever seen, because you are you. And so we're going to grow up and people are going to like us and people are not going to like us. Who agrees with that? But as long as you show up yourself, the universe makes it really easy to find out who loves you for you and who doesn't love you for you. Russell: That's awesome. Nick: Facilitator, where else would you like to go? Russell: So now we're in high school, struggling with high school stuff. And you told me your older brother's a wrestler, and you wanted to do that. I'd love to hear the story about wrestling, why you got involved in that. Nick: Yeah. So my older brother was a wrestler. He's a really good wrestler and I thought wrestlers were the coolest thing on earth. And so when I got into high school, I was looking for a way to build more confidence in myself, because I didn't have much confidence. And so I wanted to do something that was going to make me feel really good about myself. And so I wanted to become an athlete after my whole life people said, "Nick, you can't be an athlete. You can't do sports. You have no legs, one arm." And so, one day I came into school, my friend said, "Nick, you should try wrestling." And I said, "I can't my arm." And this, we call it the potato. It looks like a potato now. But it used to look like a chicken wing. You believe it? Do you believe it? And the reason why it looked like a chicken wing is because this arm was five inches longer than it is now. And my bone was going faster than my skin. So it was super sensitive. And the bottom line is if I would have hit my arm hard enough, my bone would've came through my skin. Yeah, crazy. Right. And so I couldn't do any physical activities with it. And so one day I came home and I said, "Mom and dad, I want to become a wrestler." And they said, "You can't, your arm." And then I looked at my parents and I said, "Can we cut my arm off?" And they said, "What?" And I said, "Yeah, I'm not joking. Can we cut my arm off? Can we do something about it?" And they said, "Is this something that you really want to do?" And I said, "It's going to make me an athlete. I'll be able to wrestle. I'll have more confidence in myself." And so my sophomore year of high school, my parents scheduled the appointment for the doctors to amputate my arm. And so I have these scars here, but what they did was, I didn't know they could do this, but they lasered five inches of my bone off. And then they pulled extra skin. Now you're taller than me. Then they pulled extra skin from my shoulder over my bone so I could beat people up with it. I remember right before I went into surgery, I said, "Doc, if I can't beat someone over the head with my arm when I come back, we're going to have a problem. I need to be able to do some physical activities with this thing." And so I went throughout the surgery and I go back to school. I had 17 stitches in my arm and I was the happiest kid that just cut his arm off. I go back to school, smiling. And people are like, "Nick, what'd you do?" I'm like, "I cut my arm off. It's great." And they said, "Why?" And I said, "I'm going to become a wrestler." And people made fun of me. They said, "Nick, how are you going to become a wrestler? You have no legs and one arm." And so I went out and I became a wrestler. My junior year, I got my butt kicked. And then my senior year, I was able to come out as the 106 pound varsity wrestler from my high school. And would you agree that that would probably instilled confidence in me and I'd probably feel a little bit better about myself, I'm an athlete, maybe the girls would like me? That's my thought process as a 16, 17 year old kid. And then the app, Vine came out. Y'all know what Vine is? You remember Vine? You remember Vine? Vine was an app that you could post six second videos. Raise your hand if you know what Vine is. Adults, raise your hand if you know what Vine is. All right, I'm going to educate you. So Vine was an app in 2014. I was a senior in high school where you can post six second videos. You had to be as creative as you can in six seconds. And so I wanted to create a way where I could make people laugh, but inspire them at the same time. And I wanted to do something that has never been done before. And so I was with my friends like this, and we're thinking of an idea. And I said, "I got an idea." I said, "How many legless guys do you see crawling around Walmart, pretending to be a zombie?" Bowen: Propped up just like that and siting in a elevator or something? Nick: That was me. And so I said, "That's a great idea." And so I'm a senior in high school and I put fake blood on my face and I put fake blood on my clothes, and I set out to my local Walmart in New Jersey, which Nick's not allowed in that Walmart anymore. And I go down the aisles and I'm looking for my victim, and I see this guy, he's heavily invested in the paper towels. And I looked at my camera guy, I go, "Record this. I'm going to try to scare him." And so I came around the corner as fast as I could like this. And he goes, "Oh," he threw the paper towels at my face. And I looked at my camera guy. I go, "Was that six seconds?" He goes, "Yes." I'm like, "Yes, this is just what the internet needs." And so I apologized to the guy. I told him I wasn't a zombie and that I'm really alive. And, "Thanks for letting me prank you." And I told my friends, "Pick me up and carry me out of Walmart before we get kicked out." And so I posted the video and I wanted 500 kids to see the video. I wanted to get 500 views. I posted the video and I went to sleep. And when I woke up for school, the next morning, the video had over 80,000 likes and over 80,000 reposts. I go back to school, my friends were like, "Dude, you're the zombie king." And I'm like, "What did I get myself into?" And so in under a year, my senior year I gained a million followers on Vine and the owners of The Walking Dead, the TV show hired me to fly out to Tokyo, Japan, to scare the main actor of The Walking Dead as a zombie. And so, the lesson in this, don't try to crawl around Walmart. It probably won't work for you, but would you agree that we all have unique gifts, unique ways, unique ways to make people laugh, inspire them? For me it was crawling around Walmart at the time, but we all have unique gifts. As you said, God gives us unique gifts and we have to use those. And so I use my unique body to scare people and make them laugh at the same time, which led me into going out on the internet and gaining a bunch of followers. And then I realized at one point that when I have kids and grandkids, that I want them to know me for much more than crawling around a Walmart. So I did what every kid with no legs and one arm kid would do, is I tried out for bodybuilding, said, no one ever. A lot of the times in bodybuilding, they say you have to focus on your legs, but most bodybuilders skip leg day anyway. And so I fit right in. Where do you want to go from here? But that's my zombie prank story. And so some of you may have seen my zombie pranks. You've seen them? Ryker: I've seen the one where you crawl in Walmart. Nick: Yeah. So that was high school Nick. I've evolved. I've come a long way from scaring people in Walmart. Russell: That's cool. So you got into bodybuilding and then I just wonder, because one of things I think a lot of us people don't do is we dabble in things. Like, "Oh, we'll try this. I'm going to try this and try this." But when you decided, "I'm going to be a bodybuilder," it wasn't just dabbling, right? You shifted your environment, shifted everything. You want to talk about the process there and what you did to be successful? Nick: Yeah. What humans have, we all have it is shiny objects into syndrome, kind of like Norah. You like shiny objects, right? Stars and bells and whistles and all humans like that. And so we try to do one thing and we're like, "Oh, maybe I want to try this over here." And so when I wanted to become a bodybuilder, I was living in New Jersey and it's very cold in New Jersey most of the time. And so I moved to Florida because it's... Have you ever been to Florida, anyone? We got to get you to Florida. I know Boise is great, but I mean, Florida is great too. And so I moved to Florida and I wanted to become a bodybuilder. And the first thing I did was found a really big muscle dude. And I said, "Will you teach me how to body build? You look like you know what you're doing." And that's what we do in business, is if we want to do something, we find out someone who's successful and we model them. And the reason being is because we don't have to reinvent the wheel, we don't have to recreate something. We just find someone who's successful and we learn from them. And so I attempted to become a bodybuilder. And when I moved to Florida, I told everyone, over a million people that followed me that before 2017 was over, I was going to step or hop on the competitive bodybuilding stage before the year was over. And so I did a 12 week preparation and I dedicated 12 weeks of my life to training and health and fitness. And I was 10 weeks into my prep, and I went to Vegas for an expo. And one of the days I went to the gym. Do you guys know The Rock? Everyone: Yeah. Nick: So The Rock was in the gym when I was at the gym and I've been blowing him up with bodybuilding videos for years. And so he already knew who I was. And so I go in the gym and low behold, there's Dwayne, The Rock Johnson. And he's surrounded by four security guards. And he's working out. I'm like, "Oh my God, it's The Rock." And I told my friends, I said, "Let's not bother this man." I stick out like a sore thumb. If he sees me, he's going to know who Nick is. And so after about 45 minutes of lifting, his security guard comes over and taps me on my shoulder and says, "You're Nick, right?" I said, "Not many people look like this. I'm Nick." And he goes, "Can Dwayne meet you?" I was like, "Dude, bring him on. I've been waiting all this time." And so they bring me over into the corner and they bring The Rock over and The Rock gets on my level or tries his best to get on my level. And he goes, "Dude, I'm such a big fan. Can I have a picture with you?" And on the outside, I'm like, "Sure, bro." But on the inside and I'm like, "Oh my God, it's Dwayne The Rock Johnson." Fangirling. And so we took a picture and I blurted out all my goals to him. I said, "I'm going to be the first Calvin Klein model with no legs. I'm going to write a book. I'm going to speak all over the world." And he said, "Nick, you're right, because people like you and I, they put us in any industry and we adapt and overcome." And all of us, would you agree with COVID and during this weird time, we've all adapted? We do school differently. We hang out with friends differently. Would you agree, we all have adapted? And so the more that we exercise the muscle of doing things differently, the more successful we'll be when we're adults. And so after that, I went back to Florida and I competed in bodybuilding against full-bodied guys. And I took third. I beat full body guys in bodybuilding, but I was telling Russell that I competed in the category where they don't judge your legs. That was important, because I don't got legs, I don't want them to judge my legs. And so I competed and I took third and I was the first man with no legs, one arm to jump on a bodybuilding stage. And the quote that I use is, "Over the 24 years of my life, I realized it's not the physical body that holds us back. But the biggest disability you can have," what do you think it is? "Your mindset." Great job. You guys rock. Russell: Awesome. The next thing we'll talk to you about is I know in your company you have a program that goes over a year long, Victorious, right? Nick: Yep. Russell: And each month covers a different letter. So I'd love just today and then probably out of time after that, but talking about the V and what that is in victorious. Victorious, right? Nick: Yeah. Junior Victorious. Russell: Yeah. And just talk about that for these guys because I think that's the first step for a lot of these guys when they're planning goals in sports or school, or any of their things they're trying to become. Nick: Yeah. So Junior Victorious, I created it because people like me and Russell, if we have all the knowledge and we don't give it to kids, then what's the use of it? Because we're not going to be around forever. That's just reality. And so we have to teach young people like you, so you can come, go and take over the world when you grow up. And so Victorious, basically the first month is V which stands for vision. And what vision is, is getting really clear on what you want in life. I think you can agree that the majority of humans don't really know what they want in life. They go to work or they go to school and don't really know why. Their first answer is, "I have to," but there's a deeper reason why you go to school. You probably want to be something, you want to do something with your life. And so V is getting clear. Say, you're an athlete. It's like, how many wins do you want to have? How many hours a day do you want to drill? What grades do you want to get? Does anyone know what they want to be when they're older? Curious. No idea. You got something, in the pink? Dallin: I would say it, but I don't think my dad would like it though. Nick: Got it. Maybe we'll skip over that one. But a vision. Are you okay? So vision basically is just getting very clear on what you want. And the reason why... Do you like cars? Dallin: Yeah. Nick: What kind of cars do you like? What kind of car do you want? You don't know? Dallin: Just one that goes fast. Nick: Yeah, exactly. So if he says, "I want a car and the one that goes fast," he's not going to get it because he doesn't know what car he wants. so the more clear that he can get on what car he wants, who agrees that he'll get the car faster because he knows exactly what he wants? That's a perfect example of all human beings. They want things, but they don't really know what they want. Right? Dallin: Yeah. Nick: And so next time I come back to Boise, I want you to have a specific car that you want so we can go get that car. Is that cool? I'm not buying it. Russ will buy it. But so getting very clear on what you want. And so it's like, who do you want to be? What kind of job do you want to work? What kind of college do you want to go to? What kind of school do you want to be? And the more clear that you can get on things, the faster that you'll get them. That's why, for example, if you wanted a specific car, adults help me out here because kids are a little bit difficult. Have you ever wanted a specific car and you were driving down the road and it was the only car you saw? I don't wear dresses, but women, have you ever wanted a specific dress and you finally got that dress and then you saw a bunch of other women that had the same dress? It's because your brain will go to what you want. That's why people who are depressed or people who are sad, they'll always be sad because they're always focused on the bad in their life. They're not focused on the good. And so our brain is extremely powerful because say you and I were very heavily invested in real estate, and they were whispering a conversation about real estate, we would hear it because our brain would pick up on it because that's where our focus is. That's why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The poor always focus on all the bad in their life, and the rich are focused on the opportunities. And so your brain is a computer. What you focus on, you will get more of. And so if you're always focused on, why me, or why is this happening to me? Or why does my life suck? Your brain will always come up with answers of why your life sucks. Who sees that? But if you ask yourself the question of, why am I amazing? Why did I get beat by Norah during the wrestling match? Or why is my life amazing? Your brain will always find the answer. And that's the thing. Our brain is a problem solving computer. And so it always looks for problems to solve. And you know this, if you're sitting around in your house and you don't have a problem, your brain will think of a problem and you'll try to solve it just because that's the way the brain works. And so I'll give you an easy example. If I woke up every single day, a man with no legs, one arm, and I focused on the fact that I'll never become a professional soccer player, will I be happy or sad? Quick. Everyone: Sad. Nick: Sad, right? I'm never become a professional soccer player. That's reality. But if I focus on what are my unique strengths, how can I make people laugh? How can I inspire them? What does my life look like then? It's better, right? That's where my focus is. Like Tony says where focus goes... Russell: Energy flows. Nick: Energy flows. They're a tough crowd. Russell: Okay. Next one. What questions do you guys have for Nick? Ryker? Ryker: How do you drive a car? Nick: That's a great question. So I drive a car, regular wheel. He's probably laughing because he doesn't think I could drive a car. So he just got proved wrong real quick. That's like teenage years, they try to test people. And so I drive a car with a regular wheel. That's why he's getting embarrassed. That's why you drive a car with a regular wheel. And then I have a little lever and I push the lever for brake and I push the level over for gas. And actually I have videos of me drifting my race car around the parking lot. Great question. Russell: There's another question here. Nick: You got one? Dallin: No. Nick: Okay. I'm just making sure. Aiden? Aiden: What's your favorite food? Nick: Great question. You want to guess? Aiden: I don't know. Nick: I like spaghetti. I'm Italian. My parents gave me a lot of spaghetti as a kid. You like spaghetti? What to go eat spaghetti after this? We can ditch this thing, get some spaghetti. That was a great question. Russell: Any other questions you guys have? We're super lucky to have him here. Bradley: I've got a question. How do you battle the fear of when you're trying to start something new or try something? How do you overcome the fear of trying something new? Nick: That's a great question. I'll give you a little story to help paint the picture. So they'd done a study on skydivers. And basically, they hooked the heart monitor up to skydivers. And so when they fly them up in the plane, their heart is going really fast. They're getting super nervous. "Oh my God." And then the moment that they jump out of the plane, their heart goes back to the normal speed. And so how do we eliminate fear? We take action. And so a lot of the times Russell and I are probably scared to do new things. Well, you're not scared to launch new funnels. You're a master at it. But launching new things, we're very scared. But I'd much rather attempt at my dreams and my goals and be on the sideline, hoping, wishing and regretting. Because at the end of the day, we only have one life for all we know. And there's so many people that are sitting on the sideline of life, making fun of people, bashing them. "You can't do this, you can't do that." But I'd much rather be on the mat rather than on the sideline. And also, realizing that failure is just feedback. A lot of the times we get programmed as kids that failure is bad. "I don't want to fail," but actually failure's our greatest lesson, our teaching. And so I failed a lot at life. Everything was hard for me, getting my clothes on, feeding myself, you name it, it was hard. And that's why I've been so successful is because I'm not afraid of failure. And so if we learn early on that failure is amazing and failure is our best friend, we'll have a better life. And so a little quote for you to remember, if you want to remember it, is, "If failure is a foe, you will never grow. If failure is a friend, you'll learn to the end." Super easy. I had to make it super dumb proof for adults as well. Do you want to ask a question? Dallin: Yeah. It's like, I don't know. It's just like talking about dropping out. Russell: Do you want me to ask it for you? Dallin: Yeah. Russell: So Dallin wants to be successful in life, but he focuses on he wants to drop out of high school. All he ever talks about is, "I want to drop out. I want to drop out." That's his vision and his goal, which is interesting, because I think he's got the right mindset. He wants to be successful, but he focuses on that all the time. So the question he wants to ask you is about him dropping out of school. Nick: Now you can ask it. Dallin: Oh. How do I say it? Nick: How do you drop out? Dallin: Yeah. Or, I don't know. Should I do it? Nick: Let me ask you a question. Do you individually pay for your school? Dallin: Nope. Nick: So why not get the knowledge if it's free? Dallin: I didn't think of it like that. Nick: Because when you're an adult, you're going to have to pay for knowledge. So if you're getting it for free why not take an advantage? Dallin: Because it's boring. Not boring, because I'm positive. Nick: Great takeaway. But would you agree if something's free, you might as well leverage it? Dallin: Yeah. Nick: So if you're a teenager and you're stuck in school, why not learn as much as you can because it's free and you're not paying for it? You probably don't take it serious enough because you don't pay for it. So maybe you need a little bit more skin in the game. Dallin: Maybe. I don't know. Nick: So I'd say get the knowledge while it's there. Dallin: All right. Nick: Who's the O.G? He says broke and stupid. Who's that? Zig Ziglar. Is it Zig or Jim Rohn? Russell: I think it's Jim. Nick: One of them. "The worst thing you could be is broke and stupid." And on top of that broke, stupid and ugly. You can't fix ugly. You might as well get the knowledge while it's there. I'm not calling you ugly, but I'm saying is you don't want to be broke or stupid. So get the knowledge while it's there. You're not paying for it. It's free knowledge. You'd be stupid not to take the knowledge. Dude, once you get out of high school, do you want. If you can't make it through high school, you ain't going to make it through business. Good luck. Good luck. High school is easy. Real world's way harder than high school. If you want to quit and tap out in high school, good luck, brother. Dallin: Oh boy. Nick: Let's keep that in there. That's a great lesson. That's a great lesson. That's a great lesson. I'm going to post it on my Instagram. What do you think? Russell: Do you have any questions? No. All right. Anybody else? Nick: That was a good question. It takes a lot to ask a question like that. Want to know why? Because most people wouldn't ask that question. I like it. I like the question. Great. You want to drop out too? Oh, okay. Just making sure. Just making sure. Russell: The good news for all your kids is everybody wants to drop out. It doesn't mean we do. I want to drop out of business lots of times. It gets hard. I got angry, I got people suing me. I got all sorts of stuff and it's tons of times I'm like, "Oh, it's so much easier to drop out." But it's like, well, I have a vision, we talked about it earlier. What's the vision? What are you trying to accomplish in life. You got to through a lot of hard stuff to get the good stuff. If you're not willing to go through the hard stuff, you never get the good stuff. Nick: You want a family one day? Dallin: Maybe. Nick: Okay. Do you want a girlfriend one day? Dallin: Yeah. Nick: Maybe. Or a boyfriend? Dallin: No. Nick: Okay. I don't know, whatever you go. But imagine your kid coming up to you one day and said, "My dad's a dropout." Dallin: I'd be proud. Nick: Dude, I like it. As long as you're proud of your decision and you made something of it, but I'm not your dad. I'm just a coach. Russell: He tells a story you told in lunchtime about your motivations that anchors you back to keep working out hard in the hard times. Nick: Yeah. So a lot of people ask me like, "How do you say so motivated to say so healthy with no legs, one arm?" And the reality is that there's a lot of kids that are paralyzed in wheelchairs. There's a lot of adults that are paralyzed in wheelchairs that look outside every day and say, "I wish I could go outside. Or I wish I could go to the gym," and they can't. But the one little visualization that I was going in with him is whenever I feel myself falling off track, I picture me, I'm 24, so I picture myself like 30, 35 and maybe I have a kid or two and I'm in my office. And that kid walks in and says, "Dad, why'd you get so fat? Dad, why did you let yourself go? Dad, you used to be a great speaker. Why did you give up on your dreams?" It makes me feel some type of way. If I really went into it, I'd probably start crying, because I never want my kid to look at me as a disappointment. And so I may not have kids now, but it's a motivation for me to keep going, because at one point I'm not going to be building a business for myself. Who am I going to be building a business for? My family. So it's way deeper than us as we get old. But you're young, so you've got time. Don't worry about kids calling you fat or anything. But what I'm saying is I visualize my kids looking at me and I want them to look at me proud, not as a fat dad that gave up on his dreams. Who agrees? Or a fat mom that gave up on their dreams. That's a bit aggressive. It works for me. Russell: That's awesome. Very cool. Anything else you've got? Nick: You guys are full of energy. I love it. Russell: I appreciate you, man. Thanks for coming, spending time with us and the kids. Nick: You got it. Norah, thanks for beating me up today. Russell: This is awesome. All right. Let's give Nick a huge round of applause. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0000 A Private Workshop With Nick Santonastasso And My Kids full 371 Russell Brunson | YAP Media We were lucky enough to have Nick Santonastasso come to my house and wrestle with me, and give my kids a private workshop. Listen in behind the scenes and hopefully it will change your life like it did ours. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me!... We were lucky enough to have Nick Santonastasso come to my house and wrestle with me, and give my kids a private workshop. Listen in behind the scenes and hopefully it will change your life like it did ours. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And Oh boy, do I have a treat for you guys today. So the guest for the podcast is my new friend and wrestling partner, Nick Santonastasso. And he's someone who I had a chance to... I've seen him online a whole bunch of times and a whole bunch of different places. And then he reached out to me out of the blue and said, "Hey, Russell, come out and interview for my podcast." And I knew that he wrestled, and I was like, "Dude. Yes." And I was excited. I'm like, "Yeah, I love your message. Love who you are. I love what you stand for." And he's like, "If you want I'll actually fly out to Boise." And at the time I was just sitting in my wrestling room, I knew he's a wrestler. And I was like, "Dude, how about this? You come out and then you can interview me for your podcast. And then I'll actually wrestle you in my wrestling room?" And he was like, "Yeah, that'd be amazing." And so we planned this whole thing out. And the week before Thanksgiving, he flew out here to Boise and I did an interview for his podcast. And then we came back to my wrestling room and wrestled. And obviously, my entire family wanted to meet him and to see him. If you haven't met Nick before, he has no legs and he only has one arm, and his story is amazing. And the fact that he was a wrestler is even cooler. And so me and him wrestled. And after we got into wrestling, we had so much fun, then everyone, my kids and my wife and my parents were there and everybody had a million questions for him. So I said, "How about this? Let's do a little mini seminar with my kids to be willing to." And he's like, "Sure." And so we pulled up the mats and the crash pads and the box jumps, and we had everybody sit on them, and then Nick had a chance to tell us some of the story and talk to the kids at a really cool level. And it was really fun. One of my kids was really nervous asking questions. He thought I was going to get mad at him. Anyway, it's fun. You have a chance to hear from kids, you ask him questions and hear Nick's story. And I hope that you love it. It was one of the highlights of my year, super special opportunity for me and for my family to have a chance to meet someone like Nick and to hear his story. And it's just a huge blessing that I think he gave me to be able to have him talk to my kids. And so I wanted to share this with you guys, because a lot of you guys have kids, a lot of you guys are kids and a lot of you guys have different situations. And I hope that some of the things that Nick shared with me and my family, it'll mean a lot to you as well. So with that said, we're going to cue the theme song. And we come back, you have a chance to sit in, into a private discussion with my kids and Nick as they talk about life, motivation about doing your best, a whole bunch of other cool things. So with that said, we'll cue the theme song. We'll be right back. Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. I'm here in our wrestling room right now with a bunch of my kids and cousins and friends, because we've got a special guest in town, in Boise today who I just got done wrestling, which was so much fun. And this is Nick. We had a great time. And thanks for coming and hanging out with us here in Boise and talking to all the kids. Nick Santonastasso: You got it. Russell: So kind of the game plan we want to do is I wanted my kids to get to know him and hear some of his stories and stuff for so many reasons. And so I'd love to begin with, if you want to tell them little about your story, about your life, growing up wrestling, and just some of the background. And then I got some cool questions about other stuff I want to talk about too. Nick: Yeah. Great. It's pretty open-ended when he said share your story. I got a long story. And so I'll give you a little context of why I was born like this. And yes, I was born like this. I didn't wrestle no sharks or anything. I see we got some laughs. I'm 24 years old. In 1996, my mom went in for a late ultrasound, and a ultrasound is where they see the baby inside the stomach. And they sat my parents down and said, "Something's really wrong." And they said, "From the looks of it, it doesn't look like your baby's limbs are being developed. It looks like he's missing his legs, his arm, and his face might be messed up." Clearly, my face isn't messed up. Right? And so what they did was they classified me with what they call Hanhart syndrome. And Hanhart syndrome is a super rare genetic disorder that either leaves the babies with undeveloped limbs or undeveloped organs. And so that means the babies are either born with a heart that can't beat on its own or their stomach can't process food on its own, and they later on pass away. And so they told my parents that their baby boy has about a 30% chance to live. And so I was born and the test of my organs came back 100% healthy, and the only thing that was affected were my limbs. And so I was born in this unicorn body of no legs and one arm. And all my organs are 100% healthy. Always the lesson behind that is the doctor said it had about a 30% chance to live. And my parents made a massive promise. And that promise was that they were going to focus on the 30% chance of me living rather than the what? Dallin: You dying. Nick: Exactly. You dying. Exactly. The aggressive way to say it. And so the 70% of me dying. Exactly. And so in life, that's the... Ooh, careful. I know you beat me up earlier, but stay on here. And so the little lesson is, would you agree that in your life, there's always something bad that you can focus on? Would you agree? And would you agree that there's always something good that you can focus on? And so the majority of humans, and you can agree, the majority of adults always focus on the negative stuff. And so if we can train our brain to always focus on the good things, then we always win. And so that was how I was born. And then getting into wrestling, when I got into middle school and high school, which some of you, when you get into middle school and high school, at that time, a big portion of life was boyfriends and girlfriends. Awkward phase, getting into middle school and high school. I see people getting awkward. It's awkward. And so I felt like I stood out. Well, I clearly stood out because I have no legs, one arm. And there was a specific moment where I was on the bus and there was a girl to the left of me and she was making fun of everyone on the bus. And I'm like, "Oh my God, she's going to have a field day with me." And she looked over to me and she said, "Nick, I don't even have to start with you. You're already too messed up anyway. Look at you." And I'm only a 14, 15 year old kid. And the first question that pops in my head is, why me? Have you ever asked yourself, like, "Why is this happening to me?" And so I asked myself, "Why is this happening to me?" And from that moment of one girl making fun of me, I thought things like, "Oh, I'm disgusting. I'll never have a girlfriend. I'll never go to a school dance. I'll never be able to walk my girlfriend to her locker because I can't walk. And she want to hold my finger. Is that weird?" I just started thinking about all these negative things. And so for the majority of my life, I felt my body, my no legs and one arm was the most disgusting thing, the biggest curse that life could give me. And then I was able to reframe it. And what reframing is, is say you have a bad event happen in your life. And I had the same thing happen to me. You could see all the good and I could see all the bad, it's what we focus on, yes? And so I realized a couple of years later that if a girl doesn't want to be my girlfriend, or if someone doesn't want to do business with me because of my no legs, one arm, well, wait, maybe this disability or whatever you want to call it is actually working for me and it's filtering out the type of human and womens that I don't want in my life anyway. And so when you show up authentic, when you show up transparent and you show up yourself, would you agree that the universe makes it very easy to see who's your friend and who's not your friend? I mean, have you ever had a situation in school where you thought someone was your friend and they no longer was? Has that ever happened? And that means that we don't want those people in our life. And then you also have people in your life that love on you. Anyone have good friends here? I hope. Raise your hands. That's because you show up yourself. And so I have a quote on my arm. It says, "You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same." And that's not me making fun of people with legs and arms, but what I'm saying is the best thing you could be, the most authentic thing you could be as who? Who do you think? Were you listening? You. You. You show up, Norah, and you're the greatest Norah that the world has ever seen, because you are you. And so we're going to grow up and people are going to like us and people are not going to like us. Who agrees with that? But as long as you show up yourself, the universe makes it really easy to find out who loves you for you and who doesn't love you for you. Russell: That's awesome. Nick: Facilitator, where else would you like to go? Russell: So now we're in high school, struggling with high school stuff. And you told me your older brother's a wrestler, and you wanted to do that. I'd love to hear the story about wrestling, why you got involved in that. Nick: Yeah. So my older brother was a wrestler. He's a really good wrestler and I thought wrestlers were the coolest thing on earth. And so when I got into high school, I was looking for a way to build more confidence in myself, because I didn't have much confidence. And so I wanted to do something that was going to make me feel really good about myself. And so I wanted to become an athlete after my whole life people said, "Nick, you can't be an athlete. You can't do sports. You have no legs, one arm." And so, one day I came into school, my friend said, "Nick, you should try wrestling." And I said, "I can't my arm." And this, we call it the potato. It looks like a potato now. But it used to look like a chicken wing. You believe it? Do you believe it? And the reason why it looked like a chicken wing is because this arm was five inches longer than it is now. And my bone was going faster than my skin. So it was super sensitive. And the bottom line is if I would have hit my arm hard enough, my bone would've came through my skin. Yeah, crazy. Right. And so I couldn't do any physical activities with it. And so one day I came home and I said, "Mom and dad, I want to become a wrestler." And they said, "You can't, your arm." And then I looked at my parents and I said, "Can we cut my arm off?" And they said, "What?" And I said, "Yeah, I'm not joking. Can we cut my arm off? Can we do something about it?" And they said, "Is this something that you really want to do?" And I said, "It's going to make me an athlete. I'll be able to wrestle. I'll have more confidence in myself." And so my sophomore year of high school, my parents scheduled the appointment for the doctors to amputate my arm. And so I have these scars here, but what they did was, I didn't know they could do this, but they lasered five inches of my bone off. And then they pulled extra skin. Now you're taller than me. Then they pulled extra skin from my shoulder over my bone so I could beat people up with it. I remember right before I went into surgery, I said, "Doc, if I can't beat someone over the head with my arm when I come back, we're going to have a problem. I need to be able to do some physical activities with this thing." And so I went throughout the surgery and I go back to school. I had 17 stitches in my arm and I was the happiest kid that just cut his arm off. I go back to school, smiling. And people are like, "Nick, what'd you do?" I'm like, "I cut my arm off. It's great." And they said, "Why?" And I said, "I'm going to become a wrestler." And people made fun of me. They said, "Nick, how are you going to become a wrestler? You have no legs and one arm." And so I went out and I became a wrestler. My junior year, I got my butt kicked. And then my senior year, I was able to come out as the 106 pound varsity wrestler from my high school. And would you agree that that would probably instilled confidence in me and I'd probably feel a little bit better about myself, I'm an athlete, maybe the girls would like me? That's my thought process as a 16, 17 year old kid. And then the app, Vine came out. Y'all know what Vine is? You remember Vine? You remember Vine? Vine was an app that you could post six second videos. Raise your hand if you know what Vine is. Adults, raise your hand if you know what Vine is. All right, I'm going to educate you. So Vine was an app in 2014. I was a senior in high school where you can post six second videos. You had to be as creative as you can in six seconds. And so I wanted to create a way where I could make people laugh, but inspire them at the same time. And I wanted to do something that has never been done before. And so I was with my friends like this, and we're thinking of an idea. And I said, "I got an idea." I said, "How many legless guys do you see crawling around Walmart, pretending to be a zombie?" Bowen: Propped up just like that and siting in a elevator or something? Nick: That was me. And so I said, "That's a great idea." And so I'm a senior in high school and I put fake blood on my face and I put fake blood on my clothes, and I set out to my local Walmart in New Jersey, which Nick's not allowed in that Walmart anymore. And I go down the aisles and I'm looking for my victim, and I see this guy, he's heavily invested in the paper towels. And I looked at my camera guy, I go, "Record this. I'm going to try to scare him." And so I came around the corner as fast as I could like this. And he goes, "Oh," he threw the paper towels at my face. And I looked at my camera guy. I go, "Was that six seconds?" He goes, "Yes." I'm like, "Yes, this is just what the internet needs." And so I apologized to the guy. I told him I wasn't a zombie and that I'm really alive. And, "Thanks for letting me prank you." And I told my friends, "Pick me up and carry me out of Walmart before we get kicked out." And so I posted the video and I wanted 500 kids to see the video. I wanted to get 500 views. I posted the video and I went to sleep. And when I woke up for school, the next morning, the video had over 80,000 likes and over 80,000 reposts. I go back to school, my friends were like, "Dude, you're the zombie king." And I'm like, "What did I get myself into?" And so in under a year, my senior year I gained a million followers on Vine and the owners of The Walking Dead, the TV show hired me to fly out to Tokyo, Japan, to scare the main actor of The Walking Dead as a zombie. And so, the lesson in this, don't try to crawl around Walmart. It probably won't work for you, but would you agree that we all have unique gifts, unique ways, unique ways to make people laugh, inspire them? For me it was crawling around Walmart at the time, but we all have unique gifts. As you said, God gives us unique gifts and we have to use those. And so I use my unique body to scare people and make them laugh at the same time, which led me into going out on the internet and gaining a bunch of followers. And then I realized at one point that when I have kids and grandkids, that I want them to know me for much more than crawling around a Walmart. So I did what every kid with no legs and one arm kid would do, is I tried out for bodybuilding, said, no one ever. A lot of the times in bodybuilding, they say you have to focus on your legs, but most bodybuilders skip leg day anyway. And so I fit right in. Where do you want to go from here? But that's my zombie prank story. And so some of you may have seen my zombie pranks. You've seen them? Ryker: I've seen the one where you crawl in Walmart. Nick: Yeah. So that was high school Nick. I've evolved. I've come a long way from scaring people in Walmart. Russell: That's cool. So you got into bodybuilding and then I just wonder, because one of things I think a lot of us people don't do is we dabble in things. Like, "Oh, we'll try this. I'm going to try this and try this." But when you decided, "I'm going to be a bodybuilder," it wasn't just dabbling, right? You shifted your environment, shifted everything. You want to talk about the process there and what you did to be successful? Nick: Yeah. What humans have, we all have it is shiny objects into syndrome, kind of like Norah. You like shiny objects, right? Stars and bells and whistles and all humans like that. And so we try to do one thing and we're like, "Oh, maybe I want to try this over here." And so when I wanted to become a bodybuilder, I was living in New Jersey and it's very cold in New Jersey most of the time. And so I moved to Florida because it's... Have you ever been to Florida, anyone? We got to get you to Florida. I know Boise is great, but I mean, Florida is great too. And so I moved to Florida and I wanted to become a bodybuilder. And the first thing I did was found a really big muscle dude. And I said, "Will you teach me how to body build? You look like you know what you're doing." And that's what we do in business, is if we want to do something, we find out someone who's successful and we model them. And the reason being is because we don't have to reinvent the wheel, we don't have to recreate something. We just find someone who's successful and we learn from them. And so I attempted to become a bodybuilder. And when I moved to Florida, I told everyone, over a million people that followed me that before 2017 was over, I was going to step or hop on the competitive bodybuilding stage before the year was over. And so I did a 12 week preparation and I dedicated 12 weeks of my life to training and health and fitness. And I was 10 weeks into my prep, and I went to Vegas for an expo. And one of the days I went to the gym. Do you guys know The Rock? Everyone: Yeah. Nick: So The Rock was in the gym when I was at the gym and I've been blowing him up with bodybuilding videos for years. And so he already knew who I was. And so I go in the gym and low behold, there's Dwayne, The Rock Johnson. And he's surrounded by four security guards. And he's working out. I'm like, "Oh my God, it's The Rock." And I told my friends, I said, "Let's not bother this man." I stick out like a sore thumb. If he sees me, he's going to know who Nick is. And so after about 45 minutes of lifting, his security guard comes over and taps me on my shoulder and says, "You're Nick, right?" I said, "Not many people look like this. I'm Nick." And he goes, "Can Dwayne meet you?" I was like, "Dude, bring him on. I've been waiting all this time." And so they bring me over into the corner and they bring The Rock over and The Rock gets on my level or tries his best to get on my level. And he goes, "Dude, I'm such a big fan. Can I have a picture with you?" And on the outside, I'm like, "Sure, bro." But on the inside and I'm like, "Oh my God, it's Dwayne The Rock Johnson." Fangirling. And so we took a picture and I blurted out all my goals to him. I said, "I'm going to be the first Calvin Klein model with no legs. I'm going to write a book. I'm going to speak all over the world." And he said, "Nick, you're right, because people like you and I, they put us in any industry and we adapt and overcome." And all of us, would you agree with COVID and during this weird time, we've all adapted? We do school differently. We hang out with friends differently. Would you agree, we all have adapted? And so the more that we exercise the muscle of doing things differently, the more successful we'll be when we're adults. And so after that, I went back to Florida and I competed in bodybuilding against full-bodied guys. And I took third. I beat full body guys in bodybuilding, but I was telling Russell that I competed in the category where they don't judge your legs. That was important, because I don't got legs, I don't want them to judge my legs. And so I competed and I took third and I was the first man with no legs, one arm to jump on a bodybuilding stage. And the quote that I use is, "Over the 24 years of my life, I realized it's not the physical body that holds us back. But the biggest disability you can have," what do you think it is? "Your mindset." Great job. You guys rock. Russell: Awesome. The next thing we'll talk to you about is I know in your company you have a program that goes over a year long, Victorious, right? Nick: Yep. Russell: And each month covers a different letter. So I'd love just today and then probably out of time after that, but talking about the V and what that is in victorious. Victorious, right? Nick: Yeah. Junior Victorious. Russell: Yeah. And just talk about that for these guys because I think that's the first step for a lot of these guys when they're planning goals in sports or school, or any of their things they're trying to become. Nick: Yeah. So Junior Victorious, I created it because people like me and Russell, if we have all the knowledge and we don't give it to kids, then what's the use of it? Because we're not going to be around forever. That's just reality. And so we have to teach young people like you, so you can come, go and take over the world when you grow up. And so Victorious, basically the first month is V which stands for vision. And what vision is, is getting really clear on what you want in life. I think you can agree that the majority of humans don't really know what they want in life. They go to work or they go to school and don't really know why. Their first answer is, "I have to," but there's a deeper reason why you go to school. You probably want to be something, you want to do something with your life. And so V is getting clear. Say, you're an athlete. It's like, how many wins do you want to have? How many hours a day do you want to drill? What grades do you want to get? Does anyone know what they want to be when they're older? Curious. No idea. You got something, in the pink? Dallin: I would say it, but I don't think my dad would like it though. Nick: Got it. Maybe we'll skip over that one. But a vision. Are you okay? So vision basically is just getting very clear on what you want. And the reason why... Do you like cars? Dallin: Yeah. Nick: What kind of cars do you like? What kind of car do you want? You don't know? Dallin: Just one that goes fast. Nick: Yeah, exactly. So if he says, "I want a car and the one that goes fast," he's not going to get it because he doesn't know what car he wants. so the more clear that he can get on what car he wants, who agrees that he'll get the car faster because he knows exactly what he wants? That's a perfect example of all human beings. They want things, but they don't really know what they want. Right? Dallin: Yeah. Nick: And so next time I come back to Boise, I want you to have a specific car that you want so we can go get that car. Is that cool? I'm not buying it. Russ will buy it. But so getting very clear on what you want. And so it's like, who do you want to be? What kind of job do you want to work? What kind of college do you want to go to? What kind of school do you want to be? And the more clear that you can get on things, the faster that you'll get them. That's why, for example, if you wanted a specific car, adults help me out here because kids are a little bit difficult. Have you ever wanted a specific car and you were driving down the road and it was the only car you saw? I don't wear dresses, but women, have you ever wanted a specific dress and you finally got that dress and then you saw a bunch of other women that had the same dress? It's because your brain will go to what you want. That's why people who are depressed or people who are sad, they'll always be sad because they're always focused on the bad in their life. They're not focused on the good. And so our brain is extremely powerful because say you and I were very heavily invested in real estate, and they were whispering a conversation about real estate, we would hear it because our brain would pick up on it because that's where our focus is. That's why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The poor always focus on all the bad in their life, and the rich are focused on the opportunities. And so your brain is a computer. What you focus on, you will get more of. And so if you're always focused on, why me, or why is this happening to me? Or why does my life suck? Your brain will always come up with answers of why your life sucks. Who sees that? But if you ask yourself the question of, why am I amazing? Why did I get beat by Norah during the wrestling match? Or why is my life amazing? Your brain will always find the answer. And that's the thing. Our brain is a problem solving computer. And so it always looks for problems to solve. And you know this, if you're sitting around in your house and you don't have a problem, your brain will think of a problem and you'll try to solve it just because that's the way the brain works. And so I'll give you an easy example. If I woke up every single day, a man with no legs, one arm, and I focused on the fact that I'll never become a professional soccer player, will I be happy or sad? Quick. Everyone: Sad. Nick: Sad, right? I'm never become a professional soccer player. That's reality. But if I focus on what are my unique strengths, how can I make people laugh? How can I inspire them? What does my life look like then? It's better, right? That's where my focus is. Like Tony says where focus goes... Russell: Energy flows. Nick: Energy flows. They're a tough crowd. Russell: Okay. Next one. What questions do you guys have for Nick? Ryker? Ryker: How do you drive a car? Nick: That's a great question. So I drive a car, regular wheel. He's probably laughing because he doesn't think I could drive a car. So he just got proved wrong real quick. That's like teenage years, they try to test people. And so I drive a car with a regular wheel. That's why he's getting embarrassed. That's why you drive a car with a regular wheel. And then I have a little lever and I push the lever for brake and I push the level over for gas. And actually I have videos of me drifting my race car around the parking lot. Great question. Russell: There's another question here. Nick: You got one? Dallin: No. Nick: Okay. I'm just making sure. Aiden? Aiden: What's your favorite food? Nick: Great question. You want to guess? Aiden: I don't know. Nick: I like spaghetti. I'm Italian. My parents gave me a lot of spaghetti as a kid. You like spaghetti? What to go eat spaghetti after this? We can ditch this thing, get some spaghetti. That was a great question. Russell: Any other questions you guys have? We're super lucky to have him here. Bradley: I've got a question. How do you battle the fear of when you're trying to start something new or try something? How do you overcome the fear of trying something new? Nick: That's a great question. I'll give you a little story to help paint the picture. So they'd done a study on skydivers. And basically, they hooked the heart monitor up to skydivers. And so when they fly them up in the plane, their heart is going really fast. They're getting super nervous. "Oh my God." And then the moment that they jump out of the plane, their heart goes back to the normal speed. And so how do we eliminate fear? We take action. And so a lot of the times Russell and I are probably scared to do new things. Well, you're not scared to launch new funnels. You're a master at it. But launching new things, we're very scared. But I'd much rather attempt at my dreams and my goals and be on the sideline, hoping, wishing and regretting. Because at the end of the day, we only have one life for all we know. And there's so many people that are sitting on the sideline of life, making fun of people, bashing them. "You can't do this, you can't do that." But I'd much rather be on the mat rather than on the sideline. And also, realizing that failure is just feedback. A lot of the times we get programmed as kids that failure is bad. "I don't want to fail," but actually failure's our greatest lesson, our teaching. And so I failed a lot at life. Everything was hard for me, getting my clothes on, feeding myself, you name it, it was hard. And that's why I've been so successful is because I'm not afraid of failure. And so if we learn early on that failure is amazing and failure is our best friend, we'll have a better life. And so a little quote for you to remember, if you want to remember it, is, "If failure is a foe, you will never grow. If failure is a friend, you'll learn to the end." Super easy. I had to make it super dumb proof for adults as well. Do you want to ask a question? Dallin: Yeah. It's like, I don't know. It's just like talking about dropping out. Russell: Do you want me to ask it for you? Dallin: Yeah. Russell: So Dallin wants to be successful in life, but he focuses on he wants to drop out of high school. All he ever talks about is, "I want to drop out. I want to drop out." That's his vision and his goal, which is interesting, because I think he's got the right mindset. He wants to be successful, but he focuses on that all the time. So the question he wants to ask you is about him dropping out of school. Nick: Now you can ask it. Dallin: Oh. How do I say it? Nick: How do you drop out? Dallin: Yeah. Or, I don't know. Should I do it? Nick: Let me ask you a question. Do you individually pay for your school? Dallin: Nope. Nick: So why not get the knowledge if it's free? Dallin: I didn't think of it like that. Nick: Because when you're an adult, you're going to have to pay for knowledge. So if you're getting it for free why not take an advantage? Dallin: Because it's boring. Not boring, because I'm positive. Nick: Great takeaway. But would you agree if something's free, you might as well leverage it? Dallin: Yeah. Nick: So if you're a teenager and you're stuck in school, why not learn as much as you can because it's free and you're not paying for it? You probably don't take it serious enough because you don't pay for it. So maybe you need a little bit more skin in the game. Dallin: Maybe. I don't know. Nick: So I'd say get the knowledge while it's there. Dallin: All right. Nick: Who's the O.G? He says broke and stupid. Who's that? Zig Ziglar. Is it Zig or Jim Rohn? Russell: I think it's Jim. Nick: One of them. "The worst thing you could be is broke and stupid." And on top of that broke, stupid and ugly. You can't fix ugly. You might as well get the knowledge while it's there. I'm not calling you ugly, but I'm saying is you don't want to be broke or stupid. So get the knowledge while it's there. You're not paying for it. It's free knowledge. You'd be stupid not to take the knowledge. Dude, once you get out of high school, do you want. If you can't make it through high school, you ain't going to make it through business. Good luck. Good luck. High school is easy. Real world's way harder than high school. If you want to quit and tap out in high school, good luck, brother. Dallin: Oh boy. Nick: Let's keep that in there. That's a great lesson. That's a great lesson. That's a great lesson. I'm going to post it on my Instagram. What do you think? Russell: Do you have any questions? No. All right. Anybody else? Nick: That was a good question. It takes a lot to ask a question like that. Want to know why? Because most people wouldn't ask that question. I like it. I like the question. Great. You want to drop out too? Oh, okay. Just making sure. Just making sure. Russell: The good news for all your kids is everybody wants to drop out. It doesn't mean we do. I want to drop out of business lots of times. It gets hard. I got angry, I got people suing me. I got all sorts of stuff and it's tons of times I'm like, "Oh, it's so much easier to drop out." But it's like, well, I have a vision, we talked about it earlier. What's the vision? What are you trying to accomplish in life. You got to through a lot of hard stuff to get the good stuff. If you're not willing to go through the hard stuff, you never get the good stuff. Nick: You want a family one day? Dallin: Maybe. Nick: Okay. Do you want a girlfriend one day? Dallin: Yeah. Nick: Maybe. Or a boyfriend? Dallin: No. Nick: Okay. I don't know, whatever you go. But imagine your kid coming up to you one day and said, "My dad's a dropout." Dallin: I'd be proud. Nick: Dude, I like it. As long as you're proud of your decision and you made something of it, but I'm not your dad. I'm just a coach. Russell: He tells a story you told in lunchtime about your motivations that anchors you back to keep working out hard in the hard times. Nick: Yeah. So a lot of people ask me like, "How do you say so motivated to say so healthy with no legs, one arm?" And the reality is that there's a lot of kids that are paralyzed in wheelchairs. There's a lot of adults that are paralyzed in wheelchairs that look outside every day and say, "I wish I could go outside. Or I wish I could go to the gym," and they can't. But the one little visualization that I was going in with him is whenever I feel myself falling off track, I picture me, I'm 24, so I picture myself like 30, 35 and maybe I have a kid or two and I'm in my office. And that kid walks in and says, "Dad, why'd you get so fat? Dad, why did you let yourself go? Dad, you used to be a great speaker. Why did you give up on your dreams?" It makes me feel some type of way. If I really went into it, I'd probably start crying, because I never want my kid to look at me as a disappointment. And so I may not have kids now, but it's a motivation for me to keep going, because at one point I'm not going to be building a business for myself. Who am I going to be building a business for? My family. So it's way deeper than us as we get old. But you're young, so you've got time. Don't worry about kids calling you fat or anything. But what I'm saying is I visualize my kids looking at me and I want them to look at me proud, not as a fat dad that gave up on his dreams. Who agrees? Or a fat mom that gave up on their dreams. That's a bit aggressive. It works for me. Russell: That's awesome. Very cool. Anything else you've got? Nick: You guys are full of energy. I love it. Russell: I appreciate you, man. Thanks for coming, spending time with us and the kids. Nick: You got it. Norah, thanks for beating me up today. Russell: This is awesome. All right. Let's give Nick a huge round of applause. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices We were lucky enough to have Nick Santonastasso come to my house and wrestle with me, and give my kids a private workshop. Listen in behind the scenes and hopefully it will change your life like it did ours.

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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And Oh boy, do I have a treat for you guys today. So the guest for the podcast is my new friend and wrestling partner, Nick Santonastasso. And he's someone who I had a chance to... I've seen him online a whole bunch of times and a whole bunch of different places. And then he reached out to me out of the blue and said, "Hey, Russell, come out and interview for my podcast." And I knew that he wrestled, and I was like, "Dude. Yes." And I was excited. I'm like, "Yeah, I love your message. Love who you are. I love what you stand for." And he's like, "If you want I'll actually fly out to Boise."

And at the time I was just sitting in my wrestling room, I knew he's a wrestler. And I was like, "Dude, how about this? You come out and then you can interview me for your podcast. And then I'll actually wrestle you in my wrestling room?" And he was like, "Yeah, that'd be amazing." And so we planned this whole thing out. And the week before Thanksgiving, he flew out here to Boise and I did an interview for his podcast. And then we came back to my wrestling room and wrestled. And obviously, my entire family wanted to meet him and to see him. If you haven't met Nick before, he has no legs and he only has one arm, and his story is amazing. And the fact that he was a wrestler is even cooler. And so me and him wrestled. And after we got into wrestling, we had so much fun, then everyone, my kids and my wife and my parents were there and everybody had a million questions for him.

So I said, "How about this? Let's do a little mini seminar with my kids to be willing to." And he's like, "Sure." And so we pulled up the mats and the crash pads and the box jumps, and we had everybody sit on them, and then Nick had a chance to tell us some of the story and talk to the kids at a really cool level. And it was really fun. One of my kids was really nervous asking questions. He thought I was going to get mad at him. Anyway, it's fun. You have a chance to hear from kids, you ask him questions and hear Nick's story. And I hope that you love it. It was one of the highlights of my year, super special opportunity for me and for my family to have a chance to meet someone like Nick and to hear his story. And it's just a huge blessing that I think he gave me to be able to have him talk to my kids.

And so I wanted to share this with you guys, because a lot of you guys have kids, a lot of you guys are kids and a lot of you guys have different situations. And I hope that some of the things that Nick shared with me and my family, it'll mean a lot to you as well. So with that said, we're going to cue the theme song. And we come back, you have a chance to sit in, into a private discussion with my kids and Nick as they talk about life, motivation about doing your best, a whole bunch of other cool things. So with that said, we'll cue the theme song. We'll be right back.

Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. I'm here in our wrestling room right now with a bunch of my kids and cousins and friends, because we've got a special guest in town, in Boise today who I just got done wrestling, which was so much fun. And this is Nick. We had a great time. And thanks for coming and hanging out with us here in Boise and talking to all the kids.

Nick Santonastasso:

You got it.

Russell:

So kind of the game plan we want to do is I wanted my kids to get to know him and hear some of his stories and stuff for so many reasons. And so I'd love to begin with, if you want to tell them little about your story, about your life, growing up wrestling, and just some of the background. And then I got some cool questions about other stuff I want to talk about too.

Nick:

Yeah. Great. It's pretty open-ended when he said share your story. I got a long story. And so I'll give you a little context of why I was born like this. And yes, I was born like this. I didn't wrestle no sharks or anything. I see we got some laughs. I'm 24 years old. In 1996, my mom went in for a late ultrasound, and a ultrasound is where they see the baby inside the stomach. And they sat my parents down and said, "Something's really wrong." And they said, "From the looks of it, it doesn't look like your baby's limbs are being developed. It looks like he's missing his legs, his arm, and his face might be messed up." Clearly, my face isn't messed up. Right?

And so what they did was they classified me with what they call Hanhart syndrome. And Hanhart syndrome is a super rare genetic disorder that either leaves the babies with undeveloped limbs or undeveloped organs. And so that means the babies are either born with a heart that can't beat on its own or their stomach can't process food on its own, and they later on pass away. And so they told my parents that their baby boy has about a 30% chance to live. And so I was born and the test of my organs came back 100% healthy, and the only thing that was affected were my limbs. And so I was born in this unicorn body of no legs and one arm. And all my organs are 100% healthy. Always the lesson behind that is the doctor said it had about a 30% chance to live. And my parents made a massive promise. And that promise was that they were going to focus on the 30% chance of me living rather than the what?

Dallin:

You dying.

Nick:

Exactly. You dying. Exactly. The aggressive way to say it. And so the 70% of me dying. Exactly. And so in life, that's the... Ooh, careful. I know you beat me up earlier, but stay on here. And so the little lesson is, would you agree that in your life, there's always something bad that you can focus on? Would you agree? And would you agree that there's always something good that you can focus on? And so the majority of humans, and you can agree, the majority of adults always focus on the negative stuff. And so if we can train our brain to always focus on the good things, then we always win. And so that was how I was born.

And then getting into wrestling, when I got into middle school and high school, which some of you, when you get into middle school and high school, at that time, a big portion of life was boyfriends and girlfriends. Awkward phase, getting into middle school and high school. I see people getting awkward. It's awkward. And so I felt like I stood out. Well, I clearly stood out because I have no legs, one arm. And there was a specific moment where I was on the bus and there was a girl to the left of me and she was making fun of everyone on the bus. And I'm like, "Oh my God, she's going to have a field day with me."

And she looked over to me and she said, "Nick, I don't even have to start with you. You're already too messed up anyway. Look at you." And I'm only a 14, 15 year old kid. And the first question that pops in my head is, why me? Have you ever asked yourself, like, "Why is this happening to me?" And so I asked myself, "Why is this happening to me?" And from that moment of one girl making fun of me, I thought things like, "Oh, I'm disgusting. I'll never have a girlfriend. I'll never go to a school dance. I'll never be able to walk my girlfriend to her locker because I can't walk. And she want to hold my finger. Is that weird?" I just started thinking about all these negative things. And so for the majority of my life, I felt my body, my no legs and one arm was the most disgusting thing, the biggest curse that life could give me.

And then I was able to reframe it. And what reframing is, is say you have a bad event happen in your life. And I had the same thing happen to me. You could see all the good and I could see all the bad, it's what we focus on, yes? And so I realized a couple of years later that if a girl doesn't want to be my girlfriend, or if someone doesn't want to do business with me because of my no legs, one arm, well, wait, maybe this disability or whatever you want to call it is actually working for me and it's filtering out the type of human and womens that I don't want in my life anyway. And so when you show up authentic, when you show up transparent and you show up yourself, would you agree that the universe makes it very easy to see who's your friend and who's not your friend?

I mean, have you ever had a situation in school where you thought someone was your friend and they no longer was? Has that ever happened? And that means that we don't want those people in our life. And then you also have people in your life that love on you. Anyone have good friends here? I hope. Raise your hands. That's because you show up yourself. And so I have a quote on my arm. It says, "You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same." And that's not me making fun of people with legs and arms, but what I'm saying is the best thing you could be, the most authentic thing you could be as who? Who do you think? Were you listening? You. You. You show up, Norah, and you're the greatest Norah that the world has ever seen, because you are you.

And so we're going to grow up and people are going to like us and people are not going to like us. Who agrees with that? But as long as you show up yourself, the universe makes it really easy to find out who loves you for you and who doesn't love you for you.

Russell:

That's awesome.

Nick:

Facilitator, where else would you like to go?

Russell:

So now we're in high school, struggling with high school stuff. And you told me your older brother's a wrestler, and you wanted to do that. I'd love to hear the story about wrestling, why you got involved in that.

Nick:

Yeah. So my older brother was a wrestler. He's a really good wrestler and I thought wrestlers were the coolest thing on earth. And so when I got into high school, I was looking for a way to build more confidence in myself, because I didn't have much confidence. And so I wanted to do something that was going to make me feel really good about myself. And so I wanted to become an athlete after my whole life people said, "Nick, you can't be an athlete. You can't do sports. You have no legs, one arm." And so, one day I came into school, my friend said, "Nick, you should try wrestling." And I said, "I can't my arm."

And this, we call it the potato. It looks like a potato now. But it used to look like a chicken wing. You believe it? Do you believe it? And the reason why it looked like a chicken wing is because this arm was five inches longer than it is now. And my bone was going faster than my skin. So it was super sensitive. And the bottom line is if I would have hit my arm hard enough, my bone would've came through my skin. Yeah, crazy. Right. And so I couldn't do any physical activities with it.

And so one day I came home and I said, "Mom and dad, I want to become a wrestler." And they said, "You can't, your arm." And then I looked at my parents and I said, "Can we cut my arm off?" And they said, "What?" And I said, "Yeah, I'm not joking. Can we cut my arm off? Can we do something about it?" And they said, "Is this something that you really want to do?" And I said, "It's going to make me an athlete. I'll be able to wrestle. I'll have more confidence in myself." And so my sophomore year of high school, my parents scheduled the appointment for the doctors to amputate my arm.

And so I have these scars here, but what they did was, I didn't know they could do this, but they lasered five inches of my bone off. And then they pulled extra skin. Now you're taller than me. Then they pulled extra skin from my shoulder over my bone so I could beat people up with it. I remember right before I went into surgery, I said, "Doc, if I can't beat someone over the head with my arm when I come back, we're going to have a problem. I need to be able to do some physical activities with this thing." And so I went throughout the surgery and I go back to school. I had 17 stitches in my arm and I was the happiest kid that just cut his arm off. I go back to school, smiling. And people are like, "Nick, what'd you do?" I'm like, "I cut my arm off. It's great." And they said, "Why?" And I said, "I'm going to become a wrestler." And people made fun of me. They said, "Nick, how are you going to become a wrestler? You have no legs and one arm."

And so I went out and I became a wrestler. My junior year, I got my butt kicked. And then my senior year, I was able to come out as the 106 pound varsity wrestler from my high school. And would you agree that that would probably instilled confidence in me and I'd probably feel a little bit better about myself, I'm an athlete, maybe the girls would like me? That's my thought process as a 16, 17 year old kid. And then the app, Vine came out. Y'all know what Vine is? You remember Vine? You remember Vine? Vine was an app that you could post six second videos. Raise your hand if you know what Vine is. Adults, raise your hand if you know what Vine is. All right, I'm going to educate you.

So Vine was an app in 2014. I was a senior in high school where you can post six second videos. You had to be as creative as you can in six seconds. And so I wanted to create a way where I could make people laugh, but inspire them at the same time. And I wanted to do something that has never been done before. And so I was with my friends like this, and we're thinking of an idea. And I said, "I got an idea." I said, "How many legless guys do you see crawling around Walmart, pretending to be a zombie?"

Bowen:

Propped up just like that and siting in a elevator or something?

Nick:

That was me. And so I said, "That's a great idea." And so I'm a senior in high school and I put fake blood on my face and I put fake blood on my clothes, and I set out to my local Walmart in New Jersey, which Nick's not allowed in that Walmart anymore. And I go down the aisles and I'm looking for my victim, and I see this guy, he's heavily invested in the paper towels. And I looked at my camera guy, I go, "Record this. I'm going to try to scare him." And so I came around the corner as fast as I could like this. And he goes, "Oh," he threw the paper towels at my face. And I looked at my camera guy. I go, "Was that six seconds?" He goes, "Yes." I'm like, "Yes, this is just what the internet needs."

And so I apologized to the guy. I told him I wasn't a zombie and that I'm really alive. And, "Thanks for letting me prank you." And I told my friends, "Pick me up and carry me out of Walmart before we get kicked out." And so I posted the video and I wanted 500 kids to see the video. I wanted to get 500 views. I posted the video and I went to sleep. And when I woke up for school, the next morning, the video had over 80,000 likes and over 80,000 reposts. I go back to school, my friends were like, "Dude, you're the zombie king." And I'm like, "What did I get myself into?" And so in under a year, my senior year I gained a million followers on Vine and the owners of The Walking Dead, the TV show hired me to fly out to Tokyo, Japan, to scare the main actor of The Walking Dead as a zombie.

And so, the lesson in this, don't try to crawl around Walmart. It probably won't work for you, but would you agree that we all have unique gifts, unique ways, unique ways to make people laugh, inspire them? For me it was crawling around Walmart at the time, but we all have unique gifts. As you said, God gives us unique gifts and we have to use those. And so I use my unique body to scare people and make them laugh at the same time, which led me into going out on the internet and gaining a bunch of followers.

And then I realized at one point that when I have kids and grandkids, that I want them to know me for much more than crawling around a Walmart. So I did what every kid with no legs and one arm kid would do, is I tried out for bodybuilding, said, no one ever. A lot of the times in bodybuilding, they say you have to focus on your legs, but most bodybuilders skip leg day anyway. And so I fit right in. Where do you want to go from here? But that's my zombie prank story. And so some of you may have seen my zombie pranks. You've seen them?

Ryker:

I've seen the one where you crawl in Walmart.

Nick:

Yeah. So that was high school Nick. I've evolved. I've come a long way from scaring people in Walmart.

Russell:

That's cool. So you got into bodybuilding and then I just wonder, because one of things I think a lot of us people don't do is we dabble in things. Like, "Oh, we'll try this. I'm going to try this and try this." But when you decided, "I'm going to be a bodybuilder," it wasn't just dabbling, right? You shifted your environment, shifted everything. You want to talk about the process there and what you did to be successful?

Nick:

Yeah. What humans have, we all have it is shiny objects into syndrome, kind of like Norah. You like shiny objects, right? Stars and bells and whistles and all humans like that. And so we try to do one thing and we're like, "Oh, maybe I want to try this over here." And so when I wanted to become a bodybuilder, I was living in New Jersey and it's very cold in New Jersey most of the time. And so I moved to Florida because it's... Have you ever been to Florida, anyone? We got to get you to Florida. I know Boise is great, but I mean, Florida is great too.

And so I moved to Florida and I wanted to become a bodybuilder. And the first thing I did was found a really big muscle dude. And I said, "Will you teach me how to body build? You look like you know what you're doing." And that's what we do in business, is if we want to do something, we find out someone who's successful and we model them. And the reason being is because we don't have to reinvent the wheel, we don't have to recreate something. We just find someone who's successful and we learn from them. And so I attempted to become a bodybuilder. And when I moved to Florida, I told everyone, over a million people that followed me that before 2017 was over, I was going to step or hop on the competitive bodybuilding stage before the year was over.

And so I did a 12 week preparation and I dedicated 12 weeks of my life to training and health and fitness. And I was 10 weeks into my prep, and I went to Vegas for an expo. And one of the days I went to the gym. Do you guys know The Rock?

Everyone:

Yeah.

Nick:

So The Rock was in the gym when I was at the gym and I've been blowing him up with bodybuilding videos for years. And so he already knew who I was. And so I go in the gym and low behold, there's Dwayne, The Rock Johnson. And he's surrounded by four security guards. And he's working out. I'm like, "Oh my God, it's The Rock." And I told my friends, I said, "Let's not bother this man." I stick out like a sore thumb. If he sees me, he's going to know who Nick is. And so after about 45 minutes of lifting, his security guard comes over and taps me on my shoulder and says, "You're Nick, right?" I said, "Not many people look like this. I'm Nick." And he goes, "Can Dwayne meet you?" I was like, "Dude, bring him on. I've been waiting all this time."

And so they bring me over into the corner and they bring The Rock over and The Rock gets on my level or tries his best to get on my level. And he goes, "Dude, I'm such a big fan. Can I have a picture with you?" And on the outside, I'm like, "Sure, bro." But on the inside and I'm like, "Oh my God, it's Dwayne The Rock Johnson." Fangirling. And so we took a picture and I blurted out all my goals to him. I said, "I'm going to be the first Calvin Klein model with no legs. I'm going to write a book. I'm going to speak all over the world." And he said, "Nick, you're right, because people like you and I, they put us in any industry and we adapt and overcome."

And all of us, would you agree with COVID and during this weird time, we've all adapted? We do school differently. We hang out with friends differently. Would you agree, we all have adapted? And so the more that we exercise the muscle of doing things differently, the more successful we'll be when we're adults. And so after that, I went back to Florida and I competed in bodybuilding against full-bodied guys. And I took third. I beat full body guys in bodybuilding, but I was telling Russell that I competed in the category where they don't judge your legs. That was important, because I don't got legs, I don't want them to judge my legs. And so I competed and I took third and I was the first man with no legs, one arm to jump on a bodybuilding stage. And the quote that I use is, "Over the 24 years of my life, I realized it's not the physical body that holds us back. But the biggest disability you can have," what do you think it is? "Your mindset." Great job. You guys rock.

Russell:

Awesome. The next thing we'll talk to you about is I know in your company you have a program that goes over a year long, Victorious, right?

Nick:

Yep.

Russell:

And each month covers a different letter. So I'd love just today and then probably out of time after that, but talking about the V and what that is in victorious. Victorious, right?

Nick:

Yeah. Junior Victorious.

Russell:

Yeah. And just talk about that for these guys because I think that's the first step for a lot of these guys when they're planning goals in sports or school, or any of their things they're trying to become.

Nick:

Yeah. So Junior Victorious, I created it because people like me and Russell, if we have all the knowledge and we don't give it to kids, then what's the use of it? Because we're not going to be around forever. That's just reality. And so we have to teach young people like you, so you can come, go and take over the world when you grow up. And so Victorious, basically the first month is V which stands for vision. And what vision is, is getting really clear on what you want in life. I think you can agree that the majority of humans don't really know what they want in life. They go to work or they go to school and don't really know why. Their first answer is, "I have to," but there's a deeper reason why you go to school. You probably want to be something, you want to do something with your life.

And so V is getting clear. Say, you're an athlete. It's like, how many wins do you want to have? How many hours a day do you want to drill? What grades do you want to get? Does anyone know what they want to be when they're older? Curious. No idea. You got something, in the pink?

Dallin:

I would say it, but I don't think my dad would like it though.

Nick:

Got it. Maybe we'll skip over that one. But a vision. Are you okay? So vision basically is just getting very clear on what you want. And the reason why... Do you like cars?

Dallin:

Yeah.

Nick:

What kind of cars do you like? What kind of car do you want? You don't know?

Dallin:

Just one that goes fast.

Nick:

Yeah, exactly. So if he says, "I want a car and the one that goes fast," he's not going to get it because he doesn't know what car he wants. so the more clear that he can get on what car he wants, who agrees that he'll get the car faster because he knows exactly what he wants? That's a perfect example of all human beings. They want things, but they don't really know what they want. Right?

Dallin:

Yeah.

Nick:

And so next time I come back to Boise, I want you to have a specific car that you want so we can go get that car. Is that cool? I'm not buying it. Russ will buy it. But so getting very clear on what you want. And so it's like, who do you want to be? What kind of job do you want to work? What kind of college do you want to go to? What kind of school do you want to be? And the more clear that you can get on things, the faster that you'll get them. That's why, for example, if you wanted a specific car, adults help me out here because kids are a little bit difficult.

Have you ever wanted a specific car and you were driving down the road and it was the only car you saw? I don't wear dresses, but women, have you ever wanted a specific dress and you finally got that dress and then you saw a bunch of other women that had the same dress? It's because your brain will go to what you want. That's why people who are depressed or people who are sad, they'll always be sad because they're always focused on the bad in their life. They're not focused on the good. And so our brain is extremely powerful because say you and I were very heavily invested in real estate, and they were whispering a conversation about real estate, we would hear it because our brain would pick up on it because that's where our focus is.

That's why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The poor always focus on all the bad in their life, and the rich are focused on the opportunities. And so your brain is a computer. What you focus on, you will get more of. And so if you're always focused on, why me, or why is this happening to me? Or why does my life suck? Your brain will always come up with answers of why your life sucks. Who sees that? But if you ask yourself the question of, why am I amazing? Why did I get beat by Norah during the wrestling match? Or why is my life amazing? Your brain will always find the answer. And that's the thing. Our brain is a problem solving computer. And so it always looks for problems to solve. And you know this, if you're sitting around in your house and you don't have a problem, your brain will think of a problem and you'll try to solve it just because that's the way the brain works.

And so I'll give you an easy example. If I woke up every single day, a man with no legs, one arm, and I focused on the fact that I'll never become a professional soccer player, will I be happy or sad? Quick.

Everyone:

Sad.

Nick:

Sad, right? I'm never become a professional soccer player. That's reality. But if I focus on what are my unique strengths, how can I make people laugh? How can I inspire them? What does my life look like then? It's better, right? That's where my focus is. Like Tony says where focus goes...

Russell:

Energy flows.

Nick:

Energy flows. They're a tough crowd.

Russell:

Okay. Next one. What questions do you guys have for Nick? Ryker?

Ryker:

How do you drive a car?

Nick:

That's a great question. So I drive a car, regular wheel. He's probably laughing because he doesn't think I could drive a car. So he just got proved wrong real quick. That's like teenage years, they try to test people. And so I drive a car with a regular wheel. That's why he's getting embarrassed. That's why you drive a car with a regular wheel. And then I have a little lever and I push the lever for brake and I push the level over for gas. And actually I have videos of me drifting my race car around the parking lot. Great question.

Russell:

There's another question here.

Nick:

You got one?

Dallin:

No.

Nick:

Okay. I'm just making sure. Aiden?

Aiden:

What's your favorite food?

Nick:

Great question. You want to guess?

Aiden:

I don't know.

Nick:

I like spaghetti. I'm Italian. My parents gave me a lot of spaghetti as a kid. You like spaghetti? What to go eat spaghetti after this? We can ditch this thing, get some spaghetti. That was a great question.

Russell:

Any other questions you guys have? We're super lucky to have him here.

Bradley:

I've got a question. How do you battle the fear of when you're trying to start something new or try something? How do you overcome the fear of trying something new?

Nick:

That's a great question. I'll give you a little story to help paint the picture. So they'd done a study on skydivers. And basically, they hooked the heart monitor up to skydivers. And so when they fly them up in the plane, their heart is going really fast. They're getting super nervous. "Oh my God." And then the moment that they jump out of the plane, their heart goes back to the normal speed. And so how do we eliminate fear? We take action. And so a lot of the times Russell and I are probably scared to do new things. Well, you're not scared to launch new funnels. You're a master at it. But launching new things, we're very scared. But I'd much rather attempt at my dreams and my goals and be on the sideline, hoping, wishing and regretting.

Because at the end of the day, we only have one life for all we know. And there's so many people that are sitting on the sideline of life, making fun of people, bashing them. "You can't do this, you can't do that." But I'd much rather be on the mat rather than on the sideline. And also, realizing that failure is just feedback. A lot of the times we get programmed as kids that failure is bad. "I don't want to fail," but actually failure's our greatest lesson, our teaching. And so I failed a lot at life. Everything was hard for me, getting my clothes on, feeding myself, you name it, it was hard. And that's why I've been so successful is because I'm not afraid of failure.

And so if we learn early on that failure is amazing and failure is our best friend, we'll have a better life. And so a little quote for you to remember, if you want to remember it, is, "If failure is a foe, you will never grow. If failure is a friend, you'll learn to the end." Super easy. I had to make it super dumb proof for adults as well. Do you want to ask a question?

Dallin:

Yeah. It's like, I don't know. It's just like talking about dropping out.

Russell:

Do you want me to ask it for you?

Dallin:

Yeah.

Russell:

So Dallin wants to be successful in life, but he focuses on he wants to drop out of high school. All he ever talks about is, "I want to drop out. I want to drop out." That's his vision and his goal, which is interesting, because I think he's got the right mindset. He wants to be successful, but he focuses on that all the time. So the question he wants to ask you is about him dropping out of school.

Nick:

Now you can ask it.

Dallin:

Oh. How do I say it?

Nick:

How do you drop out?

Dallin:

Yeah. Or, I don't know. Should I do it?

Nick:

Let me ask you a question. Do you individually pay for your school?

Dallin:

Nope.

Nick:

So why not get the knowledge if it's free?

Dallin:

I didn't think of it like that.

Nick:

Because when you're an adult, you're going to have to pay for knowledge. So if you're getting it for free why not take an advantage?

Dallin:

Because it's boring. Not boring, because I'm positive.

Nick:

Great takeaway. But would you agree if something's free, you might as well leverage it?

Dallin:

Yeah.

Nick:

So if you're a teenager and you're stuck in school, why not learn as much as you can because it's free and you're not paying for it? You probably don't take it serious enough because you don't pay for it. So maybe you need a little bit more skin in the game.

Dallin:

Maybe. I don't know.

Nick:

So I'd say get the knowledge while it's there.

Dallin:

All right.

Nick:

Who's the O.G? He says broke and stupid. Who's that? Zig Ziglar. Is it Zig or Jim Rohn?

Russell:

I think it's Jim.

Nick:

One of them. "The worst thing you could be is broke and stupid." And on top of that broke, stupid and ugly. You can't fix ugly. You might as well get the knowledge while it's there. I'm not calling you ugly, but I'm saying is you don't want to be broke or stupid. So get the knowledge while it's there. You're not paying for it. It's free knowledge. You'd be stupid not to take the knowledge. Dude, once you get out of high school, do you want. If you can't make it through high school, you ain't going to make it through business. Good luck. Good luck. High school is easy. Real world's way harder than high school. If you want to quit and tap out in high school, good luck, brother.

Dallin:

Oh boy.

Nick:

Let's keep that in there. That's a great lesson. That's a great lesson. That's a great lesson. I'm going to post it on my Instagram. What do you think?

Russell:

Do you have any questions? No. All right. Anybody else?

Nick:

That was a good question. It takes a lot to ask a question like that. Want to know why? Because most people wouldn't ask that question. I like it. I like the question. Great. You want to drop out too? Oh, okay. Just making sure. Just making sure.

Russell:

The good news for all your kids is everybody wants to drop out. It doesn't mean we do. I want to drop out of business lots of times. It gets hard. I got angry, I got people suing me. I got all sorts of stuff and it's tons of times I'm like, "Oh, it's so much easier to drop out." But it's like, well, I have a vision, we talked about it earlier. What's the vision? What are you trying to accomplish in life. You got to through a lot of hard stuff to get the good stuff. If you're not willing to go through the hard stuff, you never get the good stuff.

Nick:

You want a family one day?

Dallin:

Maybe.

Nick:

Okay. Do you want a girlfriend one day?

Dallin:

Yeah.

Nick:

Maybe. Or a boyfriend?

Dallin:

No.

Nick:

Okay. I don't know, whatever you go. But imagine your kid coming up to you one day and said, "My dad's a dropout."

Dallin:

I'd be proud.

Nick:

Dude, I like it. As long as you're proud of your decision and you made something of it, but I'm not your dad. I'm just a coach.

Russell:

He tells a story you told in lunchtime about your motivations that anchors you back to keep working out hard in the hard times.

Nick:

Yeah. So a lot of people ask me like, "How do you say so motivated to say so healthy with no legs, one arm?" And the reality is that there's a lot of kids that are paralyzed in wheelchairs. There's a lot of adults that are paralyzed in wheelchairs that look outside every day and say, "I wish I could go outside. Or I wish I could go to the gym," and they can't. But the one little visualization that I was going in with him is whenever I feel myself falling off track, I picture me, I'm 24, so I picture myself like 30, 35 and maybe I have a kid or two and I'm in my office. And that kid walks in and says, "Dad, why'd you get so fat? Dad, why did you let yourself go? Dad, you used to be a great speaker. Why did you give up on your dreams?"

It makes me feel some type of way. If I really went into it, I'd probably start crying, because I never want my kid to look at me as a disappointment. And so I may not have kids now, but it's a motivation for me to keep going, because at one point I'm not going to be building a business for myself. Who am I going to be building a business for? My family. So it's way deeper than us as we get old. But you're young, so you've got time. Don't worry about kids calling you fat or anything. But what I'm saying is I visualize my kids looking at me and I want them to look at me proud, not as a fat dad that gave up on his dreams. Who agrees? Or a fat mom that gave up on their dreams. That's a bit aggressive. It works for me.

Russell:

That's awesome. Very cool. Anything else you've got?

Nick:

You guys are full of energy. I love it.

Russell:

I appreciate you, man. Thanks for coming, spending time with us and the kids.

Nick:

You got it. Norah, thanks for beating me up today.

Russell:

This is awesome. All right. Let's give Nick a huge round of applause.

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]]> 2151 no Tony's Frameworks From 10 Years Ago and Now https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/tonys-frameworks-from-10-years-ago-and-now After doing UPW Virtual, it was really interesting to notice Tony’s use of his frameworks. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. So today I want to talk about a whole bunch of cool stuff. I want to talk about Tony Robbins, UPW frameworks, teaching, stories, the one chip challenge, and a whole bunch more. Hey everyone, I hope you guys are awesome. So I'm recording this as Tony Robbins is about to start day number two of Unleash the Power Within, and those who don't know the story about Unleash the Power Within, is Tony's big flagship event that I've been to twice by myself, Collette's been to it twice, and I was excited someday to take my kids to it, but we haven't been able to because of the coronavirus, so they're doing virtual and the live event, you have a chance to walk across fire, but at the virtual one, they don't obviously have the fire walk. So that's kind of sad, but we got to do breaking boards. So that's what's happening today. That's kind of where in the timeline of the world I'm at. But first I want to tell you guys about something horrible that I experienced. So some of the best marketing ever, but probably one the worst experiences of my life. One of my friends called me up, one of my trainers, and he said, "Hey, do you want to do the one chip challenge?" I'm like, "What's that?" He's like, "It's this chip that comes in a box that looks like a coffin, and it's the hottest chip in the world and you try to eat it." And I was like, "Heck yeah!" And so he bought them for me and for Dave and for our kids and for everyone. So they, actually the night before UPW, they all came over and we did the one chip challenge. And so you throw this chip in your mouth, you chew it up, and then you try to see how long you can not drink water for. So of the four people that did it, I wussed out the fastest. I was in less, I think it was a minute 30 when I was about to die and I had to get water, but it burned for the next, it burned bad for like 30 minutes. Dave made it for 10 minutes without taking any water. Jackson did it for the longest. He was a little over 10 minutes. Dallin, my son, he did it like three minutes. So I was by far the worst and it hurt so bad, but what was even worse, is not only did it hurt going in, after it was in my body, it hurt so bad for probably 45 minutes or so I was going to die, and then I went into the bathroom and I puked probably about 20 times, which was the greatest gift in the world. It felt so good to get it out of me. Anyway. So, but it was amazing marketing. Think about this. So one chip for eight bucks comes in a coffin. It's this big contest, this viral thing where everyone tries to do it. They post their pictures and their videos online and it's this horrible, horrible experience. And then on the backside of it, they sell their bags of chips, which are hot and not as hot as the crazy ones. So anyway, I had a chance to participate in that and it was horrible, but we survived it and the next day was UPW and I was so excited because when I first went you to UPW, my twins were probably three years old. I remember thinking someday when they're teenagers, I want to bring them to it and have them experience this because imagine how different your life would be if you experienced this up front. It's funny because in your head, you get this picture what it's going to look like, and your kid's going to be there taking notes and loving it, and the actual reality... So yesterday was a 15 hour day and I got to give it to them, they lasted for six hours. Six hours of them watching it and then you could tell, it was pretty tough and they were ready to be done. So they, we let them leave, and then they came back, we did the board break with them that night, which was really fun. And then I think today they're taking off. So, but they got some of it in, but it's just one of those things where in your head, you have this visualization of what it's going to look like and how amazing it's going to be and how excited. Anyway, one of those things I was a little frustrated last night because I'm just like, "Oh, I wanted my kids to experience this," and they kind of experienced a little bit of it, but anyway, maybe they're not old enough yet. Maybe, I don't know. It's hard. Being a parent is hard because you have these things in your mind that you want to do for your kids. You want them to experience. You want to help them, all these things. Like, "If I could, if someone had given me this and this and this, these tools ahead of time, I'd be so much more successful today," and it's tough when... I don't know. I'd probably have been the same way when I was their age. So anyway, someday maybe when they're 30, they're going to listen to this podcast episode, and be like, "Oh my dad actually did really care about me. He wasn't just frustrated. He really wanted me to learn something." Oh, anyway. All right. So let me change subjects, not subjects, but the reason I wanted to do this podcast. So I've talked a lot about creating your own frameworks. Talked a lot about telling stories, about teaching, all sorts of stuff like that. So yesterday was really fun. As UPW started, I took out my notebook and as Tony was teaching, and he taught 15 hours yesterday, so it was a long session, right? But as he was teaching, I noticed he started teaching different frameworks. And so as he started teaching each framework, I started writing them down and from yesterday alone, I probably missed some, but I got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13. 13 frameworks that Tony taught in 15 hours. So basically he was averaging one framework per hour. And if you watch Tony, he gets up there with no notes, no slides, no nothing. He just starts teaching. And then when he starts into a framework, his team will throw up slides and the slides are usually like, they have a title, right? So the first framework he talked about was the three levels of mastery, and it's like, "One, two, three." That's his framework. So he starts getting close to the three levels of mastery, his team throws up the slides, and he's got part one, or step one, step two, step three. If you notice the way he teaches, he's got a story for each thing. Story for step one, story for step two, story for step three. So he tells all the stories around this framework, it takes like, an hour. They shift to the second framework, which the second one was the three mandates to leadership. And as he starts getting into that topic that his team throws the slides up, it's got three mandates, one, two and three. So he teaches number one, tells a story about it. Teaches number two, tells a story. Teaches number three, tells a story, boom, you're an hour in. Then he's like, "Next framework, success cycle," right? He never calls them frameworks. But if you watch what he's doing, that's all he's literally doing. He's just, he has a framework that he throws up and he tells a bunch of stories to teach the concept of the framework. So here's the frameworks I got yesterday. And again, I may have missed some, but the three levels of mastery, the three mandates of leadership, the success cycle, the three decisions that change your life, the three patterns of fear or focus and meaning, the two primary fears, the three ways to grow a business, the two master skills, three forces of creation, the three chunks of practical psychology, the three things that cause suffering, the triad, the three molders of meaning, and the six human needs. Okay? So those are all the frameworks he taught on day number one at UPW. Tony has taught UPW, I don't know, four or five, six times a year, every year for like, 40 years. And so what's interesting is that I went to UPW the first time, 12 or 13 years ago, and guess what's interesting? These were the same frameworks he taught then. Most of the stories were the same stories, okay? So Tony can go to UPW and I'm sure he plans and prepares, but he doesn't really have to. He just shows up. He's like, "Hey, here's my," what'd I say? "My 15 frameworks, I'm going to be teaching on day number one." And so he gets up there, welcomes everybody, starts telling stories. And then he's like, "Hey, I know the very first one's going to be three levels of mastery." So he starts talking about mastery, team pops up the slides, he sees the thing, "Oh, three levels of mastery, step number one," teaches the thing. Step number two, tell the story. Number three, he tells the story. Okay. And then goes to the next one, and the next one. He's just got a process, and he goes through all these frameworks and that's day number one at UPW, right? And day number two, I haven't taken notes yet, but I'm sure day number two's the same thing. Here's the 22 frameworks we're covering. Day three, here's the 13 frameworks we're covering. Day number four, here's the 12 frameworks we're covering, right? It's just these frameworks. And then how do you do it for 15 hours? You just tell stories in every single step of the framework. Okay. And notice these frameworks aren't insanely complex, right? I think sometimes people hear me talk about frameworks and they're like, "Russell, your Perfect Webinar is intense." I'm like, "Yeah, I know I had to write a whole book to explain it." Your Expert Secrets book is my whole framework on the Perfect Webinar, right? But it's like, you don't have to have complex frameworks. Listen to Tony's. The three levels of mastery, the three mandates of leadership, the three decisions to change your life, the three patterns of focus, the two primary fears, the three ways to grow a business, the two masters skills, they're all a thing. They're all finite. There are three things, two things. The biggest one is the six human needs, which is the six things. Everything else is either three or two steps, right? But each of them are a framework. And then as he teaches them, again, it's not this huge complex thing. It's like, "Here's the framework. The three levels of mastery, step number one," right? Says what it is. Number two, tells the story. It helps illustrate his point, and then probably shared a success story to tie it back in, right? It's very similar to my framework and how to teach the framework, right? And so you look at that, this is the concept. This is what he does. If you guys are like, "How does Tony Robbins teach a 50 hour seminar in a weekend?" This is it. He wrote down probably 50 frameworks, and he breaks down over four days. "How does he teach A Date with Destiny? His second one that's five days?" Okay, it's the next set of frameworks. "How does he teach life mastery?" It's the next set of frameworks. "How does he's business mastery?" It's his business frameworks. "How's he teach wealth mastery?" It's his investing frameworks. "How does he teach?" Right? That's it. And so for you guys, I hope you're starting to get this, right? We keep talking about this. What are your frameworks? You need to start creating your frameworks and give them proprietary names, right? So you create your framework for losing weight, for making money, for being successful, for running faster, for jumping higher, for whatever, just start creating frameworks, right? And again, they're not super complex, right? The two primary fears, that's a framework. The three ways to grow a business, that's a framework, the two master skills, that's a framework, right? Do you have two master skills of jumping? The two master skills of stock investing, the two master skills of how to get bigger biceps, the two master skills of getting your calf bigger? I don't know, whatever it is. You've just got to create your frameworks, right? If you dive deep into the Perfect Webinar script, all I do is the Perfect Webinar is number one, you tell your origin story about how you discovered the framework. Then secret number one, you reveal the first framework, right? Which is your framework about the vehicle. So for me, my first framework is funnel hacking, right? So there's my funnel hacking framework. And then secret number two is your framework for the internal fear. So my framework for internal fears is called funnel cloning. If you're scared of making a funnel, let me show you a clone inside of Click Funnels, and there's my framework for that, right? And number three is my external framework. So for me, the external framework is how to get traffic. So the title of my third framework is my number one traffic hack, right? And there's a framework for my number one traffic hacking. "Well how do you do it?" Step number one, you go to similarweb.com. Step number two, you type in your domain url. Step number three, you see all the websites that are driving traffic. Step number four, you might have some the same, on the same websites, right? Anyway, I'm going fast for those who are in my world. If you're new to my world, you probably, "What is he talking about?" If you go watch my webinar, you can see my webinar. My webinar is literally just me teaching my frameworks with one minute change, and then the minute change is that we pull out one step of how we teach them. Anyway, ah, that's a whole podcast for another day. I'm not going to go into that. But if you are excited about that, depending on when you get, because I'm not sure when this episode will be going live, but during black Friday this year, we are relaunching perfectwebinarsecrets.com, and I just recorded a two hour training on how I do my webinars showing this concept of how we weave the frameworks in. So if you want to go deeper and you want to understand how to use this for webinars, go to perfectwebinarsecrets.com after Thanksgiving 2020. So whenever, depending when you're listening to it, you can get there, it's going to be seven bucks and it's super cheap and amazing. But anyway, I digress. I wanted to share this with you guys because this is the secret to being a teacher, a guru, an expert, whatever you want to call it, is developing your own frameworks, giving them a proprietary name so it becomes your framework, right? And then learning how to teach them, and teaching's literally here's the three steps. Let me tell you a story about step number, story about number two, story about number three. So it ingrains into their brains and their understanding, and then they have that tool, that framework, they can then look back on and use over and over again. I still remember the very first UPW I went to 10, 12, however many years ago it was, but I remember going through all this and I didn't realize he was doing it and understanding their frameworks, but there were a couple that really had a big impact on me. The ones that had the biggest impact on me, the three mandates of leadership. I still remember that one to this day because it was like, "Step number one is look at things as they are not worse than they are. Step number two, look at things better than they are. Step number three, work to make them that way," right? That's the three mandates of leadership. I learned that 12 years ago. And I still remember it to this day, because that framework, the way he told the stories, whatever it was, integrated in my brain, and I could recycle that 12 years later because I remembered it. I don't remember all the frameworks, but that one meant something to me. The other one was the triad, the three molders of meaning. I've taught that one a ton of times, because that was one that had such a big, profound impact on me. When he taught it, I remember the stories whatever resonated with me, was like how to get into state. And I remember I've used that every day of my life since then, right? It was such a powerful framework. And the third one that still to this day is a part of my favorite of all the Tony's teachings is the six human needs. That one had such a profound impact on me. And it was funny, I watched the video last night of him reteaching it, and I was like, "I've taught this so many times now," because it had such a profound impact on me, but I've all of these are frameworks, those were the three that stuck with me, that became part of me, right? And that's what I think all of us teachers want. We want to be able to teach stuff that becomes part of our students, that they understand it, they learn it, they integrate it, it becomes part of them. And so for UPW, for me, I went through his whole thing and those three stuck with me for a decade now, and this time going through it again, I'm like, "Oh yeah, that's a cool one. Ah, I don't remember that one. Oh yeah, I forgot about that one," and those things keep coming back. Okay? But for you, it’s just creating these frameworks, and sometimes you're like, "I got to create new frameworks, new frameworks." Tony hasn't been creating new frameworks. These are the frameworks, literally these are the same frameworks. If I went back to my notebook from 12 years ago, the first UPW I went to, these were the same ones taught then, exact same ones, nothing different, right? Some of the stories might be a little different, but most of them weren't. In fact, it was funny, there's this one story he tells and Collette's like, "Oh, this is the red square story," and I was like, "What?" And then all of a sudden he gets into it and I was like, "Oh yeah, I remember that story." And yeah, it's the same story from 15 years ago, right? And so it becomes really, really cool when you start looking at it that way, right? If you think about it, it's like... Like my Two Comma Club LIVE event or any of the events that I've done consistently, I could show up and teach them without any advanced notice needed, right? I have my frameworks, I know the stories. I just teach them, and I'm good to go. In fact, if you look at most of the stuff I do nowadays, it's interesting because like the dotcom secrets book, like I was on the road teaching those principles for a decade before I wrote the book, right? And so the value ladder's one of my frameworks, and all these things are my frameworks that I taught forever and I know the stories behind them. I know what stories I'm going to tell. When I tell the value ladder framework, I still tell the same story about my dentist and getting a postcard and showing up and getting my teeth cleaned. And he's like, "Ah, your teeth are yellow," And, "Do you drink coffee?" "No, I don't." Oh, learn about tooth whitening. I know the stories, right? I tell them so many times over and over and over and over again. So I can show up and say, "Hey, the framework someone needs is the value ladder, and what story am I going to tell?" And I just pull it out of my pocket because I've told that story a million times. I know exactly where it goes, how it fits and it's easy, right? So that's the key. I did a podcast a couple of weeks ago that was kind of another distinction on top of this. We talked about publishing and for years I told everyone you've got to publish every single day for a year and you'll be successful. And the big realization that I got from Dave Woodward, actually his son Parker, was that it's not just publishing to publish, it's publishing around your framework, right? You're telling stories and showing examples, and you're talking about the practical examples of your framework. So if you guys are misunderstanding that, you got to create these frameworks, and these frameworks become the foundation of everything. It's the foundation of your content, the foundation of your courses, your seminars, your events, your products, your YouTube videos. These things get weaved in and out over and over and over and over and over again. And so anyway, I just wanted to kind of, I don't know, just keep drilling deep on this. What are your frameworks? Start developing them and start watching as you go and you start learning from other people. Take notes. Again, I just, all my notes this time, were just writing down the names of Tony's frameworks. I just wanted to see them written out, right? And so when you watch me teach, or Tony, or anyone who's an amazing teacher, go watch and notice, and notice how they use their frameworks over and over and over and over again. Anyway, I hope that helps. With that said it's time. It's time to end this podcast, and for you guys to go sit down and figure out a framework. Make one that's easy, go make one right now. Again at Two Comma Club LIVE, I have everyone go and make a framework for how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, right. Which is a fun one. But what could be your framework? Make a framework on how to eat a hot chip, right? How to win the one chip challenge. Or make a framework on, again, whatever your product, your service is, pick something and it doesn't have to be hard, right? Just pick something, title it, give it its own proprietary name, where it's your name, have it be the three steps of whatever. The three levels of whatever. The three mandates of, the three decisions blank, the three patterns of, the two primary, the three ways to, the two master of something, the three, four... Anyway, just make it, and then start teaching it, and start talking about it, start sharing it. Start figuring out what stories you can tell to make that framework stick in people's minds better and be able to bring back and remember it and recall it so they can actually use it and integrate into their own lives. Anyway, I hope that helps and gives you guys a glimpse of how Tony teaches, how I teach, and how the greats all do it. Thanks so much, guys. I appreciate you all for listening and we'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Tony's Frameworks From 10 Years Ago and Now full 370 Russell Brunson | YAP Media After doing UPW Virtual, it was really interesting to notice Tony’s use of his frameworks. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome... After doing UPW Virtual, it was really interesting to notice Tony’s use of his frameworks. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. So today I want to talk about a whole bunch of cool stuff. I want to talk about Tony Robbins, UPW frameworks, teaching, stories, the one chip challenge, and a whole bunch more. Hey everyone, I hope you guys are awesome. So I'm recording this as Tony Robbins is about to start day number two of Unleash the Power Within, and those who don't know the story about Unleash the Power Within, is Tony's big flagship event that I've been to twice by myself, Collette's been to it twice, and I was excited someday to take my kids to it, but we haven't been able to because of the coronavirus, so they're doing virtual and the live event, you have a chance to walk across fire, but at the virtual one, they don't obviously have the fire walk. So that's kind of sad, but we got to do breaking boards. So that's what's happening today. That's kind of where in the timeline of the world I'm at. But first I want to tell you guys about something horrible that I experienced. So some of the best marketing ever, but probably one the worst experiences of my life. One of my friends called me up, one of my trainers, and he said, "Hey, do you want to do the one chip challenge?" I'm like, "What's that?" He's like, "It's this chip that comes in a box that looks like a coffin, and it's the hottest chip in the world and you try to eat it." And I was like, "Heck yeah!" And so he bought them for me and for Dave and for our kids and for everyone. So they, actually the night before UPW, they all came over and we did the one chip challenge. And so you throw this chip in your mouth, you chew it up, and then you try to see how long you can not drink water for. So of the four people that did it, I wussed out the fastest. I was in less, I think it was a minute 30 when I was about to die and I had to get water, but it burned for the next, it burned bad for like 30 minutes. Dave made it for 10 minutes without taking any water. Jackson did it for the longest. He was a little over 10 minutes. Dallin, my son, he did it like three minutes. So I was by far the worst and it hurt so bad, but what was even worse, is not only did it hurt going in, after it was in my body, it hurt so bad for probably 45 minutes or so I was going to die, and then I went into the bathroom and I puked probably about 20 times, which was the greatest gift in the world. It felt so good to get it out of me. Anyway. So, but it was amazing marketing. Think about this. So one chip for eight bucks comes in a coffin. It's this big contest, this viral thing where everyone tries to do it. They post their pictures and their videos online and it's this horrible, horrible experience. And then on the backside of it, they sell their bags of chips, which are hot and not as hot as the crazy ones. So anyway, I had a chance to participate in that and it was horrible, but we survived it and the next day was UPW and I was so excited because when I first went you to UPW, my twins were probably three years old. I remember thinking someday when they're teenagers, I want to bring them to it and have them experience this because imagine how different your life would be if you experienced this up front. It's funny because in your head, you get this picture what it's going to look like, and your kid's going to be there taking notes and loving it, and the actual reality... So yesterday was a 15 hour day and I got to give it to them, they lasted for six hours. Six hours of them watching it and then you could tell, it was pretty tough and they were ready to be done. So they, we let them leave, and then they came back, we did the board break with them that night, which was really fun. And then I think today they're taking off. So, but they got some of it in, but it's just one of those things where in your head, you have this visualization of what it's going to look like and how amazing it's going to be and how excited. Anyway, one of those things I was a little frustrated last night because I'm just like, "Oh, I wanted my kids to experience this," and they kind of experienced a little bit of it, but anyway, maybe they're not old enough yet. Maybe, I don't know. It's hard. Being a parent is hard because you have these things in your mind that you want to do for your kids. You want them to experience. You want to help them, all these things. Like, "If I could, if someone had given me this and this and this, these tools ahead of time, I'd be so much more successful today," and it's tough when... I don't know. I'd probably have been the same way when I was their age. So anyway, someday maybe when they're 30, they're going to listen to this podcast episode, and be like, "Oh my dad actually did really care about me. He wasn't just frustrated. He really wanted me to learn something." Oh, anyway. All right. So let me change subjects, not subjects, but the reason I wanted to do this podcast. So I've talked a lot about creating your own frameworks. Talked a lot about telling stories, about teaching, all sorts of stuff like that. So yesterday was really fun. As UPW started, I took out my notebook and as Tony was teaching, and he taught 15 hours yesterday, so it was a long session, right? But as he was teaching, I noticed he started teaching different frameworks. And so as he started teaching each framework, I started writing them down and from yesterday alone, I probably missed some, but I got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13. 13 frameworks that Tony taught in 15 hours. So basically he was averaging one framework per hour. And if you watch Tony, he gets up there with no notes, no slides, no nothing. He just starts teaching. And then when he starts into a framework, his team will throw up slides and the slides are usually like, they have a title, right? So the first framework he talked about was the three levels of mastery, and it's like, "One, two, three." That's his framework. So he starts getting close to the three levels of mastery, his team throws up the slides, and he's got part one, or step one, step two, step three. If you notice the way he teaches, he's got a story for each thing. Story for step one, story for step two, story for step three. So he tells all the stories around this framework, it takes like, an hour. They shift to the second framework, which the second one was the three mandates to leadership. And as he starts getting into that topic that his team throws the slides up, it's got three mandates, one, two and three. So he teaches number one, tells a story about it. Teaches number two, tells a story. Teaches number three, tells a story, boom, you're an hour in. Then he's like, "Next framework, success cycle," right? He never calls them frameworks. But if you watch what he's doing, that's all he's literally doing. He's just, he has a framework that he throws up and he tells a bunch of stories to teach the concept of the framework. So here's the frameworks I got yesterday. And again, I may have missed some, but the three levels of mastery, the three mandates of leadership, the success cycle, the three decisions that change your life, the three patterns of fear or focus and meaning, the two primary fears, the three ways to grow a business, the two master skills, three forces of creation, the three chunks of practical psychology, the three things that cause suffering, the triad, the three molders of meaning, and the six human needs. Okay? So those are all the frameworks he taught on day number one at UPW. Tony has taught UPW, I don't know, four or five, six times a year, every year for like, 40 years. And so what's interesting is that I went to UPW the first time, 12 or 13 years ago, and guess what's interesting? These were the same frameworks he taught then. Most of the stories were the same stories, okay? So Tony can go to UPW and I'm sure he plans and prepares, but he doesn't really have to. He just shows up. He's like, "Hey, here's my," what'd I say? "My 15 frameworks, I'm going to be teaching on day number one." And so he gets up there, welcomes everybody, starts telling stories. And then he's like, "Hey, I know the very first one's going to be three levels of mastery." So he starts talking about mastery, team pops up the slides, he sees the thing, "Oh, three levels of mastery, step number one," teaches the thing. Step number two, tell the story. Number three, he tells the story. Okay. And then goes to the next one, and the next one. He's just got a process, and he goes through all these frameworks and that's day number one at UPW, right? And day number two, I haven't taken notes yet, but I'm sure day number two's the same thing. Here's the 22 frameworks we're covering. Day three, here's the 13 frameworks we're covering. Day number four, here's the 12 frameworks we're covering, right? It's just these frameworks. And then how do you do it for 15 hours? You just tell stories in every single step of the framework. Okay. And notice these frameworks aren't insanely complex, right? I think sometimes people hear me talk about frameworks and they're like, "Russell, your Perfect Webinar is intense." I'm like, "Yeah, I know I had to write a whole book to explain it." Your Expert Secrets book is my whole framework on the Perfect Webinar, right? But it's like, you don't have to have complex frameworks. Listen to Tony's. The three levels of mastery, the three mandates of leadership, the three decisions to change your life, the three patterns of focus, the two primary fears, the three ways to grow a business, the two masters skills, they're all a thing. They're all finite. There are three things, two things. The biggest one is the six human needs, which is the six things. Everything else is either three or two steps, right? But each of them are a framework. And then as he teaches them, again, it's not this huge complex thing. It's like, "Here's the framework. The three levels of mastery, step number one," right? Says what it is. Number two, tells the story. It helps illustrate his point, and then probably shared a success story to tie it back in, right? It's very similar to my framework and how to teach the framework, right? And so you look at that, this is the concept. This is what he does. If you guys are like, "How does Tony Robbins teach a 50 hour seminar in a weekend?" This is it. He wrote down probably 50 frameworks, and he breaks down over four days. "How does he teach A Date with Destiny? His second one that's five days?" Okay, it's the next set of frameworks. "How does he teach life mastery?" It's the next set of frameworks. "How does he's business mastery?" It's his business frameworks. "How's he teach wealth mastery?" It's his investing frameworks. "How does he teach?" Right? That's it. And so for you guys, I hope you're starting to get this, right? We keep talking about this. What are your frameworks? You need to start creating your frameworks and give them proprietary names, right? So you create your framework for losing weight, for making money, for being successful, for running faster, for jumping higher, for whatever, just start creating frameworks, right? And again, they're not super complex, right? The two primary fears, that's a framework. The three ways to grow a business, that's a framework, the two master skills, that's a framework, right? Do you have two master skills of jumping? The two master skills of stock investing, the two master skills of how to get bigger biceps, the two master skills of getting your calf bigger? I don't know, whatever it is. You've just got to create your frameworks, right? If you dive deep into the Perfect Webinar script, all I do is the Perfect Webinar is number one, you tell your origin story about how you discovered the framework. Then secret number one, you reveal the first framework, right? Which is your framework about the vehicle. So for me, my first framework is funnel hacking, right? So there's my funnel hacking framework. And then secret number two is your framework for the internal fear. So my framework for internal fears is called funnel cloning. If you're scared of making a funnel, let me show you a clone inside of Click Funnels, and there's my framework for that, right? And number three is my external framework. So for me, the external framework is how to get traffic. So the title of my third framework is my number one traffic hack, right? And there's a framework for my number one traffic hacking. "Well how do you do it?" Step number one, you go to similarweb.com. Step number two, you type in your domain url. Step number three, you see all the websites that are driving traffic. Step number four, you might have some the same, on the same websites, right? Anyway, I'm going fast for those who are in my world. If you're new to my world, you probably, "What is he talking about?" If you go watch my webinar, you can see my webinar. My webinar is literally just me teaching my frameworks with one minute change, and then the minute change is that we pull out one step of how we teach them. Anyway, ah, that's a whole podcast for another day. I'm not going to go into that. But if you are excited about that, depending on when you get, because I'm not sure when this episode will be going live, but during black Friday this year, we are relaunching perfectwebinarsecrets.com, and I just recorded a two hour training on how I do my webinars showing this concept of how we weave the frameworks in. So if you want to go deeper and you want to understand how to use this for webinars, go to perfectwebinarsecrets.com after Thanksgiving 2020. So whenever, depending when you're listening to it, you can get there, it's going to be seven bucks and it's super cheap and amazing. But anyway, I digress. I wanted to share this with you guys because this is the secret to being a teacher, a guru, an expert, whatever you want to call it, is developing your own frameworks, giving them a proprietary name so it becomes your framework, right? And then learning how to teach them, and teaching's literally here's the three steps. Let me tell you a story about step number, story about number two, story about number three. So it ingrains into their brains and their understanding, and then they have that tool, that framework, they can then look back on and use over and over again. I still remember the very first UPW I went to 10, 12, however many years ago it was, but I remember going through all this and I didn't realize he was doing it and understanding their frameworks, but there were a couple that really had a big impact on me. The ones that had the biggest impact on me, the three mandates of leadership. I still remember that one to this day because it was like, "Step number one is look at things as they are not worse than they are. Step number two, look at things better than they are. Step number three, work to make them that way," right? That's the three mandates of leadership. I learned that 12 years ago. And I still remember it to this day, because that framework, the way he told the stories, whatever it was, integrated in my brain, and I could recycle that 12 years later because I remembered it. I don't remember all the frameworks, but that one meant something to me. The other one was the triad, the three molders of meaning. I've taught that one a ton of times, because that was one that had such a big, profound impact on me. When he taught it, I remember the stories whatever resonated with me, was like how to get into state. And I remember I've used that every day of my life since then, right? It was such a powerful framework. And the third one that still to this day is a part of my favorite of all the Tony's teachings is the six human needs. That one had such a profound impact on me. And it was funny, I watched the video last night of him reteaching it, and I was like, "I've taught this so many times now," because it had such a profound impact on me, but I've all of these are frameworks, those were the three that stuck with me, that became part of me, right? And that's what I think all of us teachers want. We want to be able to teach stuff that becomes part of our students, that they understand it, they learn it, they integrate it, it becomes part of them. And so for UPW, for me, I went through his whole thing and those three stuck with me for a decade now, and this time going through it again, I'm like, "Oh yeah, that's a cool one. Ah, I don't remember that one. Oh yeah, I forgot about that one," and those things keep coming back. Okay? But for you, it’s just creating these frameworks, and sometimes you're like, "I got to create new frameworks, new frameworks." Tony hasn't been creating new frameworks. These are the frameworks, literally these are the same frameworks. If I went back to my notebook from 12 years ago, the first UPW I went to, these were the same ones taught then, exact same ones, nothing different, right? Some of the stories might be a little different, but most of them weren't. In fact, it was funny, there's this one story he tells and Collette's like, "Oh, this is the red square story," and I was like, "What?" And then all of a sudden he gets into it and I was like, "Oh yeah, I remember that story." And yeah, it's the same story from 15 years ago, right? And so it becomes really, really cool when you start looking at it that way, right? If you think about it, it's like... Like my Two Comma Club LIVE event or any of the events that I've done consistently, I could show up and teach them without any advanced notice needed, right? I have my frameworks, I know the stories. I just teach them, and I'm good to go. In fact, if you look at most of the stuff I do nowadays, it's interesting because like the dotcom secrets book, like I was on the road teaching those principles for a decade before I wrote the book, right? And so the value ladder's one of my frameworks, and all these things are my frameworks that I taught forever and I know the stories behind them. I know what stories I'm going to tell. When I tell the value ladder framework, I still tell the same story about my dentist and getting a postcard and showing up and getting my teeth cleaned. And he's like, "Ah, your teeth are yellow," And, "Do you drink coffee?" "No, I don't." Oh, learn about tooth whitening. I know the stories, right? I tell them so many times over and over and over and over again. So I can show up and say, "Hey, the framework someone needs is the value ladder, and what story am I going to tell?" And I just pull it out of my pocket because I've told that story a million times. I know exactly where it goes, how it fits and it's easy, right? So that's the key. I did a podcast a couple of weeks ago that was kind of another distinction on top of this. We talked about publishing and for years I told everyone you've got to publish every single day for a year and you'll be successful. And the big realization that I got from Dave Woodward, actually his son Parker, was that it's not just publishing to publish, it's publishing around your framework, right? You're telling stories and showing examples, and you're talking about the practical examples of your framework. So if you guys are misunderstanding that, you got to create these frameworks, and these frameworks become the foundation of everything. It's the foundation of your content, the foundation of your courses, your seminars, your events, your products, your YouTube videos. These things get weaved in and out over and over and over and over and over again. And so anyway, I just wanted to kind of, I don't know, just keep drilling deep on this. What are your frameworks? Start developing them and start watching as you go and you start learning from other people. Take notes. Again, I just, all my notes this time, were just writing down the names of Tony's frameworks. I just wanted to see them written out, right? And so when you watch me teach, or Tony, or anyone who's an amazing teacher, go watch and notice, and notice how they use their frameworks over and over and over and over again. Anyway, I hope that helps. With that said it's time. It's time to end this podcast, and for you guys to go sit down and figure out a framework. Make one that's easy, go make one right now. Again at Two Comma Club LIVE, I have everyone go and make a framework for how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, right. Which is a fun one. But what could be your framework? Make a framework on how to eat a hot chip, right? How to win the one chip challenge. Or make a framework on, again, whatever your product, your service is, pick something and it doesn't have to be hard, right? Just pick something, title it, give it its own proprietary name, where it's your name, have it be the three steps of whatever. The three levels of whatever. The three mandates of, the three decisions blank, the three patterns of, the two primary, the three ways to, the two master of something, the three, four... Anyway, just make it, and then start teaching it, and start talking about it, start sharing it. Start figuring out what stories you can tell to make that framework stick in people's minds better and be able to bring back and remember it and recall it so they can actually use it and integrate into their own lives. Anyway, I hope that helps and gives you guys a glimpse of how Tony teaches, how I teach, and how the greats all do it. Thanks so much, guys. I appreciate you all for listening and we'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices After doing UPW Virtual, it was really interesting to notice Tony’s use of his frameworks.

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Hey, what's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. So today I want to talk about a whole bunch of cool stuff. I want to talk about Tony Robbins, UPW frameworks, teaching, stories, the one chip challenge, and a whole bunch more.

Hey everyone, I hope you guys are awesome. So I'm recording this as Tony Robbins is about to start day number two of Unleash the Power Within, and those who don't know the story about Unleash the Power Within, is Tony's big flagship event that I've been to twice by myself, Collette's been to it twice, and I was excited someday to take my kids to it, but we haven't been able to because of the coronavirus, so they're doing virtual and the live event, you have a chance to walk across fire, but at the virtual one, they don't obviously have the fire walk. So that's kind of sad, but we got to do breaking boards. So that's what's happening today. That's kind of where in the timeline of the world I'm at.

But first I want to tell you guys about something horrible that I experienced. So some of the best marketing ever, but probably one the worst experiences of my life. One of my friends called me up, one of my trainers, and he said, "Hey, do you want to do the one chip challenge?" I'm like, "What's that?" He's like, "It's this chip that comes in a box that looks like a coffin, and it's the hottest chip in the world and you try to eat it." And I was like, "Heck yeah!" And so he bought them for me and for Dave and for our kids and for everyone. So they, actually the night before UPW, they all came over and we did the one chip challenge.

And so you throw this chip in your mouth, you chew it up, and then you try to see how long you can not drink water for. So of the four people that did it, I wussed out the fastest. I was in less, I think it was a minute 30 when I was about to die and I had to get water, but it burned for the next, it burned bad for like 30 minutes. Dave made it for 10 minutes without taking any water. Jackson did it for the longest. He was a little over 10 minutes. Dallin, my son, he did it like three minutes. So I was by far the worst and it hurt so bad, but what was even worse, is not only did it hurt going in, after it was in my body, it hurt so bad for probably 45 minutes or so I was going to die, and then I went into the bathroom and I puked probably about 20 times, which was the greatest gift in the world. It felt so good to get it out of me.

Anyway. So, but it was amazing marketing. Think about this. So one chip for eight bucks comes in a coffin. It's this big contest, this viral thing where everyone tries to do it. They post their pictures and their videos online and it's this horrible, horrible experience. And then on the backside of it, they sell their bags of chips, which are hot and not as hot as the crazy ones.

So anyway, I had a chance to participate in that and it was horrible, but we survived it and the next day was UPW and I was so excited because when I first went you to UPW, my twins were probably three years old. I remember thinking someday when they're teenagers, I want to bring them to it and have them experience this because imagine how different your life would be if you experienced this up front. It's funny because in your head, you get this picture what it's going to look like, and your kid's going to be there taking notes and loving it, and the actual reality... So yesterday was a 15 hour day and I got to give it to them, they lasted for six hours. Six hours of them watching it and then you could tell, it was pretty tough and they were ready to be done.

So they, we let them leave, and then they came back, we did the board break with them that night, which was really fun. And then I think today they're taking off. So, but they got some of it in, but it's just one of those things where in your head, you have this visualization of what it's going to look like and how amazing it's going to be and how excited. Anyway, one of those things I was a little frustrated last night because I'm just like, "Oh, I wanted my kids to experience this," and they kind of experienced a little bit of it, but anyway, maybe they're not old enough yet. Maybe, I don't know. It's hard.

Being a parent is hard because you have these things in your mind that you want to do for your kids. You want them to experience. You want to help them, all these things. Like, "If I could, if someone had given me this and this and this, these tools ahead of time, I'd be so much more successful today," and it's tough when... I don't know. I'd probably have been the same way when I was their age. So anyway, someday maybe when they're 30, they're going to listen to this podcast episode, and be like, "Oh my dad actually did really care about me. He wasn't just frustrated. He really wanted me to learn something." Oh, anyway.

All right. So let me change subjects, not subjects, but the reason I wanted to do this podcast. So I've talked a lot about creating your own frameworks. Talked a lot about telling stories, about teaching, all sorts of stuff like that. So yesterday was really fun. As UPW started, I took out my notebook and as Tony was teaching, and he taught 15 hours yesterday, so it was a long session, right? But as he was teaching, I noticed he started teaching different frameworks. And so as he started teaching each framework, I started writing them down and from yesterday alone, I probably missed some, but I got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13. 13 frameworks that Tony taught in 15 hours.

So basically he was averaging one framework per hour. And if you watch Tony, he gets up there with no notes, no slides, no nothing. He just starts teaching. And then when he starts into a framework, his team will throw up slides and the slides are usually like, they have a title, right? So the first framework he talked about was the three levels of mastery, and it's like, "One, two, three." That's his framework. So he starts getting close to the three levels of mastery, his team throws up the slides, and he's got part one, or step one, step two, step three. If you notice the way he teaches, he's got a story for each thing. Story for step one, story for step two, story for step three. So he tells all the stories around this framework, it takes like, an hour.

They shift to the second framework, which the second one was the three mandates to leadership. And as he starts getting into that topic that his team throws the slides up, it's got three mandates, one, two and three. So he teaches number one, tells a story about it. Teaches number two, tells a story. Teaches number three, tells a story, boom, you're an hour in. Then he's like, "Next framework, success cycle," right? He never calls them frameworks. But if you watch what he's doing, that's all he's literally doing. He's just, he has a framework that he throws up and he tells a bunch of stories to teach the concept of the framework.

So here's the frameworks I got yesterday. And again, I may have missed some, but the three levels of mastery, the three mandates of leadership, the success cycle, the three decisions that change your life, the three patterns of fear or focus and meaning, the two primary fears, the three ways to grow a business, the two master skills, three forces of creation, the three chunks of practical psychology, the three things that cause suffering, the triad, the three molders of meaning, and the six human needs. Okay?

So those are all the frameworks he taught on day number one at UPW. Tony has taught UPW, I don't know, four or five, six times a year, every year for like, 40 years. And so what's interesting is that I went to UPW the first time, 12 or 13 years ago, and guess what's interesting? These were the same frameworks he taught then. Most of the stories were the same stories, okay? So Tony can go to UPW and I'm sure he plans and prepares, but he doesn't really have to. He just shows up. He's like, "Hey, here's my," what'd I say? "My 15 frameworks, I'm going to be teaching on day number one."

And so he gets up there, welcomes everybody, starts telling stories. And then he's like, "Hey, I know the very first one's going to be three levels of mastery." So he starts talking about mastery, team pops up the slides, he sees the thing, "Oh, three levels of mastery, step number one," teaches the thing. Step number two, tell the story. Number three, he tells the story. Okay. And then goes to the next one, and the next one. He's just got a process, and he goes through all these frameworks and that's day number one at UPW, right?

And day number two, I haven't taken notes yet, but I'm sure day number two's the same thing. Here's the 22 frameworks we're covering. Day three, here's the 13 frameworks we're covering. Day number four, here's the 12 frameworks we're covering, right? It's just these frameworks. And then how do you do it for 15 hours? You just tell stories in every single step of the framework. Okay.

And notice these frameworks aren't insanely complex, right? I think sometimes people hear me talk about frameworks and they're like, "Russell, your Perfect Webinar is intense." I'm like, "Yeah, I know I had to write a whole book to explain it." Your Expert Secrets book is my whole framework on the Perfect Webinar, right? But it's like, you don't have to have complex frameworks. Listen to Tony's. The three levels of mastery, the three mandates of leadership, the three decisions to change your life, the three patterns of focus, the two primary fears, the three ways to grow a business, the two masters skills, they're all a thing. They're all finite. There are three things, two things. The biggest one is the six human needs, which is the six things. Everything else is either three or two steps, right? But each of them are a framework.

And then as he teaches them, again, it's not this huge complex thing. It's like, "Here's the framework. The three levels of mastery, step number one," right? Says what it is. Number two, tells the story. It helps illustrate his point, and then probably shared a success story to tie it back in, right? It's very similar to my framework and how to teach the framework, right? And so you look at that, this is the concept. This is what he does. If you guys are like, "How does Tony Robbins teach a 50 hour seminar in a weekend?" This is it. He wrote down probably 50 frameworks, and he breaks down over four days. "How does he teach A Date with Destiny? His second one that's five days?" Okay, it's the next set of frameworks. "How does he teach life mastery?" It's the next set of frameworks. "How does he's business mastery?" It's his business frameworks. "How's he teach wealth mastery?" It's his investing frameworks. "How does he teach?" Right? That's it.

And so for you guys, I hope you're starting to get this, right? We keep talking about this. What are your frameworks? You need to start creating your frameworks and give them proprietary names, right? So you create your framework for losing weight, for making money, for being successful, for running faster, for jumping higher, for whatever, just start creating frameworks, right? And again, they're not super complex, right? The two primary fears, that's a framework. The three ways to grow a business, that's a framework, the two master skills, that's a framework, right?

Do you have two master skills of jumping? The two master skills of stock investing, the two master skills of how to get bigger biceps, the two master skills of getting your calf bigger? I don't know, whatever it is. You've just got to create your frameworks, right? If you dive deep into the Perfect Webinar script, all I do is the Perfect Webinar is number one, you tell your origin story about how you discovered the framework. Then secret number one, you reveal the first framework, right? Which is your framework about the vehicle.

So for me, my first framework is funnel hacking, right? So there's my funnel hacking framework. And then secret number two is your framework for the internal fear. So my framework for internal fears is called funnel cloning. If you're scared of making a funnel, let me show you a clone inside of Click Funnels, and there's my framework for that, right? And number three is my external framework. So for me, the external framework is how to get traffic. So the title of my third framework is my number one traffic hack, right? And there's a framework for my number one traffic hacking. "Well how do you do it?" Step number one, you go to similarweb.com. Step number two, you type in your domain url. Step number three, you see all the websites that are driving traffic. Step number four, you might have some the same, on the same websites, right?

Anyway, I'm going fast for those who are in my world. If you're new to my world, you probably, "What is he talking about?" If you go watch my webinar, you can see my webinar. My webinar is literally just me teaching my frameworks with one minute change, and then the minute change is that we pull out one step of how we teach them. Anyway, ah, that's a whole podcast for another day. I'm not going to go into that.

But if you are excited about that, depending on when you get, because I'm not sure when this episode will be going live, but during black Friday this year, we are relaunching perfectwebinarsecrets.com, and I just recorded a two hour training on how I do my webinars showing this concept of how we weave the frameworks in. So if you want to go deeper and you want to understand how to use this for webinars, go to perfectwebinarsecrets.com after Thanksgiving 2020. So whenever, depending when you're listening to it, you can get there, it's going to be seven bucks and it's super cheap and amazing. But anyway, I digress.

I wanted to share this with you guys because this is the secret to being a teacher, a guru, an expert, whatever you want to call it, is developing your own frameworks, giving them a proprietary name so it becomes your framework, right? And then learning how to teach them, and teaching's literally here's the three steps. Let me tell you a story about step number, story about number two, story about number three. So it ingrains into their brains and their understanding, and then they have that tool, that framework, they can then look back on and use over and over again.

I still remember the very first UPW I went to 10, 12, however many years ago it was, but I remember going through all this and I didn't realize he was doing it and understanding their frameworks, but there were a couple that really had a big impact on me. The ones that had the biggest impact on me, the three mandates of leadership. I still remember that one to this day because it was like, "Step number one is look at things as they are not worse than they are. Step number two, look at things better than they are. Step number three, work to make them that way," right? That's the three mandates of leadership.

I learned that 12 years ago. And I still remember it to this day, because that framework, the way he told the stories, whatever it was, integrated in my brain, and I could recycle that 12 years later because I remembered it. I don't remember all the frameworks, but that one meant something to me. The other one was the triad, the three molders of meaning. I've taught that one a ton of times, because that was one that had such a big, profound impact on me. When he taught it, I remember the stories whatever resonated with me, was like how to get into state. And I remember I've used that every day of my life since then, right? It was such a powerful framework.

And the third one that still to this day is a part of my favorite of all the Tony's teachings is the six human needs. That one had such a profound impact on me. And it was funny, I watched the video last night of him reteaching it, and I was like, "I've taught this so many times now," because it had such a profound impact on me, but I've all of these are frameworks, those were the three that stuck with me, that became part of me, right? And that's what I think all of us teachers want. We want to be able to teach stuff that becomes part of our students, that they understand it, they learn it, they integrate it, it becomes part of them.

And so for UPW, for me, I went through his whole thing and those three stuck with me for a decade now, and this time going through it again, I'm like, "Oh yeah, that's a cool one. Ah, I don't remember that one. Oh yeah, I forgot about that one," and those things keep coming back. Okay? But for you, it’s just creating these frameworks, and sometimes you're like, "I got to create new frameworks, new frameworks." Tony hasn't been creating new frameworks. These are the frameworks, literally these are the same frameworks. If I went back to my notebook from 12 years ago, the first UPW I went to, these were the same ones taught then, exact same ones, nothing different, right? Some of the stories might be a little different, but most of them weren't.

In fact, it was funny, there's this one story he tells and Collette's like, "Oh, this is the red square story," and I was like, "What?" And then all of a sudden he gets into it and I was like, "Oh yeah, I remember that story." And yeah, it's the same story from 15 years ago, right? And so it becomes really, really cool when you start looking at it that way, right? If you think about it, it's like... Like my Two Comma Club LIVE event or any of the events that I've done consistently, I could show up and teach them without any advanced notice needed, right? I have my frameworks, I know the stories. I just teach them, and I'm good to go.

In fact, if you look at most of the stuff I do nowadays, it's interesting because like the dotcom secrets book, like I was on the road teaching those principles for a decade before I wrote the book, right? And so the value ladder's one of my frameworks, and all these things are my frameworks that I taught forever and I know the stories behind them. I know what stories I'm going to tell. When I tell the value ladder framework, I still tell the same story about my dentist and getting a postcard and showing up and getting my teeth cleaned. And he's like, "Ah, your teeth are yellow," And, "Do you drink coffee?" "No, I don't." Oh, learn about tooth whitening. I know the stories, right? I tell them so many times over and over and over and over again. So I can show up and say, "Hey, the framework someone needs is the value ladder, and what story am I going to tell?" And I just pull it out of my pocket because I've told that story a million times. I know exactly where it goes, how it fits and it's easy, right?

So that's the key. I did a podcast a couple of weeks ago that was kind of another distinction on top of this. We talked about publishing and for years I told everyone you've got to publish every single day for a year and you'll be successful. And the big realization that I got from Dave Woodward, actually his son Parker, was that it's not just publishing to publish, it's publishing around your framework, right? You're telling stories and showing examples, and you're talking about the practical examples of your framework. So if you guys are misunderstanding that, you got to create these frameworks, and these frameworks become the foundation of everything. It's the foundation of your content, the foundation of your courses, your seminars, your events, your products, your YouTube videos. These things get weaved in and out over and over and over and over and over again.

And so anyway, I just wanted to kind of, I don't know, just keep drilling deep on this. What are your frameworks? Start developing them and start watching as you go and you start learning from other people. Take notes. Again, I just, all my notes this time, were just writing down the names of Tony's frameworks. I just wanted to see them written out, right? And so when you watch me teach, or Tony, or anyone who's an amazing teacher, go watch and notice, and notice how they use their frameworks over and over and over and over again.

Anyway, I hope that helps. With that said it's time. It's time to end this podcast, and for you guys to go sit down and figure out a framework. Make one that's easy, go make one right now. Again at Two Comma Club LIVE, I have everyone go and make a framework for how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, right. Which is a fun one. But what could be your framework? Make a framework on how to eat a hot chip, right? How to win the one chip challenge. Or make a framework on, again, whatever your product, your service is, pick something and it doesn't have to be hard, right? Just pick something, title it, give it its own proprietary name, where it's your name, have it be the three steps of whatever. The three levels of whatever. The three mandates of, the three decisions blank, the three patterns of, the two primary, the three ways to, the two master of something, the three, four...

Anyway, just make it, and then start teaching it, and start talking about it, start sharing it. Start figuring out what stories you can tell to make that framework stick in people's minds better and be able to bring back and remember it and recall it so they can actually use it and integrate into their own lives. Anyway, I hope that helps and gives you guys a glimpse of how Tony teaches, how I teach, and how the greats all do it. Thanks so much, guys. I appreciate you all for listening and we'll talk to you soon.

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]]> 1109 no Why I Throw Out So Many Hooks… (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-i-throw-out-so-many-hooks-revisited Have you ever wondered why I’m always creating new offers and products when it would just be so much easier to sit back and relax? Enjoy this episode from the archives explaining why I keep throwing out so many hooks! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I learned something really interesting about myself tonight and I wanted to share it with you guys. Hey everyone, I hope everything is going amazing for you guys. Friday, I did a training. So the training was for everybody who had gone to the 10x Growth Con event, Grant Cardone’s event. If you guys were there you saw at the event, I did a presentation and made 90 million, excuse me, not 90 million, that’d be cool, 3 million dollars in 90 minutes, setting all sorts of records and it was really, really cool. Then the next day I got up onstage and we did a bonus where if anyone signed up before I left, basically we were going to let them, I was going to do a workshop where I walked them through exactly what I did and how I did it and all that kind of stuff. So that workshop I actually did on Friday, which was really cool. I thought it was going to be about 3 hours long, I ended up going for 6 ½ hours. I don’t know, I just get excited and I can’t stop talking and sharing and it’s just a lot of fun. Hopefully you guys are okay if I over deliver. But it was cool. And then obviously, immediately afterwards I’m all excited to go and try to turn this into an offer and to sell it, and I bought 10xsecrets.com, and I’m like, “I’m going to put this in the offer, and this and this, and the training….” And my whole brain is going crazy with this whole process. And then part of me is like, why am I doing this? Why am I creating another offer, a new front end, another product? Maybe it’s because I have a problem, I got a funnel addiction, maybe a little of all those things, I don’t know. But what was interesting, I actually this weekend thought a lot about that. It’s fun, I love reading the Facebook comments of people in our groups and especially just hearing people’s success stories and stuff. And there’s this really interesting pattern this weekend for me, as I was just scrolling through stuff. So many people told me, “Oh for me Russell, it was when I read the Dotcom Secrets book, that’s when it clicked.” Or “Oh for me it was when I was at this event and you said this, and that’s when everything clicked.” And “For me it was when…” people are sharing what it was for them that made it all click for them, and when it clicked the business took off. And it made me start thinking, what were the pivotal parts in my journey where something clicked and it was like, transitional shift and shift and shift and shift. Twice this week I did trainings for the Two Comma Club X coaching program, where I shared something that had been shared other places, just had been shared differently and had different stories around it and stuff like that. And the same thing, people were like, “Oh that time it clicked. Now I understand where I’m going.” So you never know when, like when you’re sharing message which one’s going to click with which people. That’s why I keep telling my stories and my things over and over and over and over again, because you never know when it’s going to click for that person who’s there. Sometimes it’s repetitive for some people and sometimes it’s like the thing that makes it click. And I started thinking about this, I’m so excited to create this offer and then I was bummed about it because I was like, why am I doing this? The last thing in the world I really need right now is more money. I’m like, what is the reason? Why am I so excited about doing this? And then it kind of hit me, I think the reason why is that I know that, that training was the newest one I’d done. It was 6 ½ hours, I put my heart and soul into it because I wanted to over deliver. It was really cool actually. I actually went through and I taught the foundation of offer creating, because that’s the key to the webinar. Then I taught the Perfect Webinar, and then I went through the actual presentation from 10x and then I pushed play and watched and paused, “This is why I did that.” Push play, pause, “This is why I did this.” Just kind of went through the whole thing. It was interesting, I even found out a couple of new nuances to the Perfect Webinar that I didn’t ever realize until I was like pausing myself and I was like, “oh wow, I did that thing. I didn’t even realize that.” So I was sharing those things, talked about the price marinade, a whole bunch of cool things I’ve never really talked about before. But I was thinking about this, between our email lists and everything, there’s over a million entrepreneurs that follow me, right. And when I put something out, my job as a marketer is like, re-engage them, and then re-commit them, and hopefully this time give them that aha. So I re-engage them by making a new hook. I talked in the last podcast about hook, story, offer. So I need a new hook to get them re-engaged. Because if I just keep selling them the exact same thing, it’s going to be hard to keep them in. But if you look at this, think about this. I have perfectwebinarsecrets.com, which is like the script and the cd of me teaching the Perfect Webinar right. Expert Secrets is me teaching the Perfect Webinar in way more detail.  Secrets Master Class, which is part of Two Comma Club X, the old FHAT event was me teaching the Perfect Webinar. This was me teaching the Perfect webinar. It’s me teaching it, but it’s like the concepts, the contents not the same, but it’s similar. But it’s repackaged in different ways. Where it’s like, The Perfect Webinar, that was the thing, that was the hook that will get them. Expert Secrets, I talk about that way, that’s the hook that will get somebody. 10x Secrets, we talk about how Russell made 3 million in 90 minutes, that hook will get a lot of people. It’s sexy, it’s interesting, it’s unique. The hook will grab a different segment, or re-engage people. Then, I honestly wish I could, that six hour thing, I wish I could stream it to everybody for free. The problem is I know that if people get it for free, they won’t do anything with it. So that’s why we make an offer, that’s why we make a funnel. Because then I’m hooking them first, then I’m charging them, and the physical act of them pulling out a credit card recommits to themselves that they’re going to go down this path again. So I hook them, recommit them, and then hopefully this time I give them the aha, the thing, that’s the one that…how many times have you gone and studied somebody’s stuff two or three or four times? Like you go to church every Sunday for 20 years of your life and all the sudden that Sunday, that person, whatever it was, you were ready right then. So for me I feel like that, that’s really part of this business. The money, and if you guys aren’t to this point yet, I’m just going to break it to you, the money is not that exciting, moving forward. There comes a point where your house is paid off, everything is taken care of, it’s just not exciting, the money part. But the impact fires you up. So it’s like, I’m hooking them. I have a million plus entrepreneurs, plus everyone else on Facebook, plus the entire world, throwing these offers out trying to hook them and get them to make a commitment. They commit themselves by actually paying for something, and my goal is for this time to give them the aha, the thing where they’re like, “Ah, this is the one.” And I know that 10x Secrets is going to do that for some people and I’m excited. The only reason why we charge and do funnels is because we can get to more people. We can pay for advertizing and that hook gets out to more people, which hopefully grabs people, gets them in, get’s them to commit to themselves and hopefully that will be the one that gets them. It re-engages people, re-ignites people. People who have been on and off, on and off, on and off, hopefully this will be the one for them. Anyway, that’s why. It was kind of cool. It gave me comfort, oh it’s okay for me to do this. I’m doing it for that reason. I want more people to be like, “10x Secrets, that was the one that gave me the clarity that I needed and the permission to do my thing.” Or maybe it’s Ignite Your Funnels, that’s coming out later this year. Or maybe it’s the next thing. That’s why I keep doing it. In case you’re wondering. Why I keep putting out offers, because I’m trying to hook people, get them to recommit to themselves and hopefully have that one be the one that gives them the aha that makes them move. So I’m curious for you guys, when was it? Which was the thing, the product, the idea, the thing that gave you the aha where you’re like, “That was the thing.” Or have you had it yet, are you still looking for that? Was it a video, a YouTube video, a podcast, a product you bought? There’s a reason why I’m preaching like crazy around the clock to you guys, it’s because I’m hoping and waiting and wishing that each of you guys will get that aha from one of these things. Give you the thing you need to like, “that was the piece. That was the piece I was missing.” So if you wonder why I publish so much, that’s why. I love it, and the feedback. I literally just scroll through the Facebook feed and I’m just liking everything, it just makes me so happy to see all the positive stuff. Anyway, appreciate you all thanks so much. Talk to you guys soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 09 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Why I Throw Out So Many Hooks… (Revisited!) full 369 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Have you ever wondered why I’m always creating new offers and products when it would just be so much easier to sit back and relax? Enjoy this episode from the archives explaining why I keep throwing out so many hooks! Hit me up on IG!... Have you ever wondered why I’m always creating new offers and products when it would just be so much easier to sit back and relax? Enjoy this episode from the archives explaining why I keep throwing out so many hooks! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I learned something really interesting about myself tonight and I wanted to share it with you guys. Hey everyone, I hope everything is going amazing for you guys. Friday, I did a training. So the training was for everybody who had gone to the 10x Growth Con event, Grant Cardone’s event. If you guys were there you saw at the event, I did a presentation and made 90 million, excuse me, not 90 million, that’d be cool, 3 million dollars in 90 minutes, setting all sorts of records and it was really, really cool. Then the next day I got up onstage and we did a bonus where if anyone signed up before I left, basically we were going to let them, I was going to do a workshop where I walked them through exactly what I did and how I did it and all that kind of stuff. So that workshop I actually did on Friday, which was really cool. I thought it was going to be about 3 hours long, I ended up going for 6 ½ hours. I don’t know, I just get excited and I can’t stop talking and sharing and it’s just a lot of fun. Hopefully you guys are okay if I over deliver. But it was cool. And then obviously, immediately afterwards I’m all excited to go and try to turn this into an offer and to sell it, and I bought 10xsecrets.com, and I’m like, “I’m going to put this in the offer, and this and this, and the training….” And my whole brain is going crazy with this whole process. And then part of me is like, why am I doing this? Why am I creating another offer, a new front end, another product? Maybe it’s because I have a problem, I got a funnel addiction, maybe a little of all those things, I don’t know. But what was interesting, I actually this weekend thought a lot about that. It’s fun, I love reading the Facebook comments of people in our groups and especially just hearing people’s success stories and stuff. And there’s this really interesting pattern this weekend for me, as I was just scrolling through stuff. So many people told me, “Oh for me Russell, it was when I read the Dotcom Secrets book, that’s when it clicked.” Or “Oh for me it was when I was at this event and you said this, and that’s when everything clicked.” And “For me it was when…” people are sharing what it was for them that made it all click for them, and when it clicked the business took off. And it made me start thinking, what were the pivotal parts in my journey where something clicked and it was like, transitional shift and shift and shift and shift. Twice this week I did trainings for the Two Comma Club X coaching program, where I shared something that had been shared other places, just had been shared differently and had different stories around it and stuff like that. And the same thing, people were like, “Oh that time it clicked. Now I understand where I’m going.” So you never know when, like when you’re sharing message which one’s going to click with which people. That’s why I keep telling my stories and my things over and over and over and over again, because you never know when it’s going to click for that person who’s there. Sometimes it’s repetitive for some people and sometimes it’s like the thing that makes it click. And I started thinking about this, I’m so excited to create this offer and then I was bummed about it because I was like, why am I doing this? The last thing in the world I really need right now is more money. I’m like, what is the reason? Why am I so excited about doing this? And then it kind of hit me, I think the reason why is that I know that, that training was the newest one I’d done. It was 6 ½ hours, I put my heart and soul into it because I wanted to over deliver. It was really cool actually. I actually went through and I taught the foundation of offer creating, because that’s the key to the webinar. Then I taught the Perfect Webinar, and then I went through the actual presentation from 10x and then I pushed play and watched and paused, “This is why I did that.” Push play, pause, “This is why I did this.” Just kind of went through the whole thing. It was interesting, I even found out a couple of new nuances to the Perfect Webinar that I didn’t ever realize until I was like pausing myself and I was like, “oh wow, I did that thing. I didn’t even realize that.” So I was sharing those things, talked about the price marinade, a whole bunch of cool things I’ve never really talked about before. But I was thinking about this, between our email lists and everything, there’s over a million entrepreneurs that follow me, right. And when I put something out, my job as a marketer is like, re-engage them, and then re-commit them, and hopefully this time give them that aha. So I re-engage them by making a new hook. I talked in the last podcast about hook, story, offer. So I need a new hook to get them re-engaged. Because if I just keep selling them the exact same thing, it’s going to be hard to keep them in. But if you look at this, think about this. I have perfectwebinarsecrets.com, which is like the script and the cd of me teaching the Perfect Webinar right. Expert Secrets is me teaching the Perfect Webinar in way more detail.  Secrets Master Class, which is part of Two Comma Club X, the old FHAT event was me teaching the Perfect Webinar. This was me teaching the Perfect webinar. It’s me teaching it, but it’s like the concepts, the contents not the same, but it’s similar. But it’s repackaged in different ways. Where it’s like, The Perfect Webinar, that was the thing, that was the hook that will get them. Expert Secrets, I talk about that way, that’s the hook that will get somebody. 10x Secrets, we talk about how Russell made 3 million in 90 minutes, that hook will get a lot of people. It’s sexy, it’s interesting, it’s unique. The hook will grab a different segment, or re-engage people. Then, I honestly wish I could, that six hour thing, I wish I could stream it to everybody for free. The problem is I know that if people get it for free, they won’t do anything with it. So that’s why we make an offer, that’s why we make a funnel. Because then I’m hooking them first, then I’m charging them, and the physical act of them pulling out a credit card recommits to themselves that they’re going to go down this path again. So I hook them, recommit them, and then hopefully this time I give them the aha, the thing, that’s the one that…how many times have you gone and studied somebody’s stuff two or three or four times? Like you go to church every Sunday for 20 years of your life and all the sudden that Sunday, that person, whatever it was, you were ready right then. So for me I feel like that, that’s really part of this business. The money, and if you guys aren’t to this point yet, I’m just going to break it to you, the money is not that exciting, moving forward. There comes a point where your house is paid off, everything is taken care of, it’s just not exciting, the money part. But the impact fires you up. So it’s like, I’m hooking them. I have a million plus entrepreneurs, plus everyone else on Facebook, plus the entire world, throwing these offers out trying to hook them and get them to make a commitment. They commit themselves by actually paying for something, and my goal is for this time to give them the aha, the thing where they’re like, “Ah, this is the one.” And I know that 10x Secrets is going to do that for some people and I’m excited. The only reason why we charge and do funnels is because we can get to more people. We can pay for advertizing and that hook gets out to more people, which hopefully grabs people, gets them in, get’s them to commit to themselves and hopefully that will be the one that gets them. It re-engages people, re-ignites people. People who have been on and off, on and off, on and off, hopefully this will be the one for them. Anyway, that’s why. It was kind of cool. It gave me comfort, oh it’s okay for me to do this. I’m doing it for that reason. I want more people to be like, “10x Secrets, that was the one that gave me the clarity that I needed and the permission to do my thing.” Or maybe it’s Ignite Your Funnels, that’s coming out later this year. Or maybe it’s the next thing. That’s why I keep doing it. In case you’re wondering. Why I keep putting out offers, because I’m trying to hook people, get them to recommit to themselves and hopefully have that one be the one that gives them the aha that makes them move. So I’m curious for you guys, when was it? Which was the thing, the product, the idea, the thing that gave you the aha where you’re like, “That was the thing.” Or have you had it yet, are you still looking for that? Was it a video, a YouTube video, a podcast, a product you bought? There’s a reason why I’m preaching like crazy around the clock to you guys, it’s because I’m hoping and waiting and wishing that each of you guys will get that aha from one of these things. Give you the thing you need to like, “that was the piece. That was the piece I was missing.” So if you wonder why I publish so much, that’s why. I love it, and the feedback. I literally just scroll through the Facebook feed and I’m just liking everything, it just makes me so happy to see all the positive stuff. Anyway, appreciate you all thanks so much. Talk to you guys soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Have you ever wondered why I’m always creating new offers and products when it would just be so much easier to sit back and relax? Enjoy this episode from the archives explaining why I keep throwing out so many hooks!

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What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I learned something really interesting about myself tonight and I wanted to share it with you guys.

Hey everyone, I hope everything is going amazing for you guys. Friday, I did a training. So the training was for everybody who had gone to the 10x Growth Con event, Grant Cardone’s event. If you guys were there you saw at the event, I did a presentation and made 90 million, excuse me, not 90 million, that’d be cool, 3 million dollars in 90 minutes, setting all sorts of records and it was really, really cool.

Then the next day I got up onstage and we did a bonus where if anyone signed up before I left, basically we were going to let them, I was going to do a workshop where I walked them through exactly what I did and how I did it and all that kind of stuff. So that workshop I actually did on Friday, which was really cool. I thought it was going to be about 3 hours long, I ended up going for 6 ½ hours. I don’t know, I just get excited and I can’t stop talking and sharing and it’s just a lot of fun. Hopefully you guys are okay if I over deliver. But it was cool.

And then obviously, immediately afterwards I’m all excited to go and try to turn this into an offer and to sell it, and I bought 10xsecrets.com, and I’m like, “I’m going to put this in the offer, and this and this, and the training….” And my whole brain is going crazy with this whole process. And then part of me is like, why am I doing this? Why am I creating another offer, a new front end, another product?

Maybe it’s because I have a problem, I got a funnel addiction, maybe a little of all those things, I don’t know. But what was interesting, I actually this weekend thought a lot about that. It’s fun, I love reading the Facebook comments of people in our groups and especially just hearing people’s success stories and stuff.

And there’s this really interesting pattern this weekend for me, as I was just scrolling through stuff. So many people told me, “Oh for me Russell, it was when I read the Dotcom Secrets book, that’s when it clicked.” Or “Oh for me it was when I was at this event and you said this, and that’s when everything clicked.” And “For me it was when…” people are sharing what it was for them that made it all click for them, and when it clicked the business took off.

And it made me start thinking, what were the pivotal parts in my journey where something clicked and it was like, transitional shift and shift and shift and shift. Twice this week I did trainings for the Two Comma Club X coaching program, where I shared something that had been shared other places, just had been shared differently and had different stories around it and stuff like that. And the same thing, people were like, “Oh that time it clicked. Now I understand where I’m going.”

So you never know when, like when you’re sharing message which one’s going to click with which people. That’s why I keep telling my stories and my things over and over and over and over again, because you never know when it’s going to click for that person who’s there. Sometimes it’s repetitive for some people and sometimes it’s like the thing that makes it click.

And I started thinking about this, I’m so excited to create this offer and then I was bummed about it because I was like, why am I doing this? The last thing in the world I really need right now is more money. I’m like, what is the reason? Why am I so excited about doing this? And then it kind of hit me, I think the reason why is that I know that, that training was the newest one I’d done. It was 6 ½ hours, I put my heart and soul into it because I wanted to over deliver.

It was really cool actually. I actually went through and I taught the foundation of offer creating, because that’s the key to the webinar. Then I taught the Perfect Webinar, and then I went through the actual presentation from 10x and then I pushed play and watched and paused, “This is why I did that.” Push play, pause, “This is why I did this.” Just kind of went through the whole thing.

It was interesting, I even found out a couple of new nuances to the Perfect Webinar that I didn’t ever realize until I was like pausing myself and I was like, “oh wow, I did that thing. I didn’t even realize that.” So I was sharing those things, talked about the price marinade, a whole bunch of cool things I’ve never really talked about before.

But I was thinking about this, between our email lists and everything, there’s over a million entrepreneurs that follow me, right. And when I put something out, my job as a marketer is like, re-engage them, and then re-commit them, and hopefully this time give them that aha. So I re-engage them by making a new hook. I talked in the last podcast about hook, story, offer. So I need a new hook to get them re-engaged. Because if I just keep selling them the exact same thing, it’s going to be hard to keep them in.

But if you look at this, think about this. I have perfectwebinarsecrets.com, which is like the script and the cd of me teaching the Perfect Webinar right. Expert Secrets is me teaching the Perfect Webinar in way more detail.  Secrets Master Class, which is part of Two Comma Club X, the old FHAT event was me teaching the Perfect Webinar. This was me teaching the Perfect webinar. It’s me teaching it, but it’s like the concepts, the contents not the same, but it’s similar. But it’s repackaged in different ways.

Where it’s like, The Perfect Webinar, that was the thing, that was the hook that will get them. Expert Secrets, I talk about that way, that’s the hook that will get somebody. 10x Secrets, we talk about how Russell made 3 million in 90 minutes, that hook will get a lot of people. It’s sexy, it’s interesting, it’s unique. The hook will grab a different segment, or re-engage people.

Then, I honestly wish I could, that six hour thing, I wish I could stream it to everybody for free. The problem is I know that if people get it for free, they won’t do anything with it. So that’s why we make an offer, that’s why we make a funnel. Because then I’m hooking them first, then I’m charging them, and the physical act of them pulling out a credit card recommits to themselves that they’re going to go down this path again.

So I hook them, recommit them, and then hopefully this time I give them the aha, the thing, that’s the one that…how many times have you gone and studied somebody’s stuff two or three or four times? Like you go to church every Sunday for 20 years of your life and all the sudden that Sunday, that person, whatever it was, you were ready right then.

So for me I feel like that, that’s really part of this business. The money, and if you guys aren’t to this point yet, I’m just going to break it to you, the money is not that exciting, moving forward. There comes a point where your house is paid off, everything is taken care of, it’s just not exciting, the money part. But the impact fires you up.

So it’s like, I’m hooking them. I have a million plus entrepreneurs, plus everyone else on Facebook, plus the entire world, throwing these offers out trying to hook them and get them to make a commitment. They commit themselves by actually paying for something, and my goal is for this time to give them the aha, the thing where they’re like, “Ah, this is the one.” And I know that 10x Secrets is going to do that for some people and I’m excited.

The only reason why we charge and do funnels is because we can get to more people. We can pay for advertizing and that hook gets out to more people, which hopefully grabs people, gets them in, get’s them to commit to themselves and hopefully that will be the one that gets them. It re-engages people, re-ignites people. People who have been on and off, on and off, on and off, hopefully this will be the one for them.

Anyway, that’s why. It was kind of cool. It gave me comfort, oh it’s okay for me to do this. I’m doing it for that reason. I want more people to be like, “10x Secrets, that was the one that gave me the clarity that I needed and the permission to do my thing.” Or maybe it’s Ignite Your Funnels, that’s coming out later this year. Or maybe it’s the next thing.

That’s why I keep doing it. In case you’re wondering. Why I keep putting out offers, because I’m trying to hook people, get them to recommit to themselves and hopefully have that one be the one that gives them the aha that makes them move.

So I’m curious for you guys, when was it? Which was the thing, the product, the idea, the thing that gave you the aha where you’re like, “That was the thing.” Or have you had it yet, are you still looking for that? Was it a video, a YouTube video, a podcast, a product you bought? There’s a reason why I’m preaching like crazy around the clock to you guys, it’s because I’m hoping and waiting and wishing that each of you guys will get that aha from one of these things. Give you the thing you need to like, “that was the piece. That was the piece I was missing.”

So if you wonder why I publish so much, that’s why. I love it, and the feedback. I literally just scroll through the Facebook feed and I’m just liking everything, it just makes me so happy to see all the positive stuff. Anyway, appreciate you all thanks so much. Talk to you guys soon. Bye.

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]]> 633 no Hacking The Hackers... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/hacking-the-hackers A really cool strategy to meet your Dream 100 and get their customers to flow into your funnels. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys are pumped and excited for today. Today, I'm going to bring you some charisma, some hacking, some excitement, and a whole bunch of fun stuff. All right, everybody. I wanted to funnel hack somebody today because what they're doing is really, really cool, and I think it would behoove you all to watch what she is doing. The person I'm talking about, her name is McCall Jones. The story, as I know it, and I probably don't know all the details, but she is related to Kathryn Jones, who is our resident design hacker who spoke at Funnel Hacking Live this year about design hacking. She was so excited that she was going to speak on stage. She invited her friends and her family to all come watch her crush it, and she did crush it. She did an amazing job. One of her... I think it's her sister-in-law, came not knowing anything about what in the world we do, and she sat there and watched Kathryn do her thing. Then she watched the entire event, and she was like, "This is amazing. I want to do something related to this." Now, McCall's background... Actually, I don't know all her background. I do know that she was on... What's that show? I keep thinking it's So You Think You Can Dance. That's not it. She's was on High School Musical, part two, I believe. I may quote that wrong. Maybe it's part one. I've never seen either of them, I'm not going to lie, but I think she was on High School Musical, part two. So, she's got an acting career and a bunch of stuff like that. But she's watching this, and she's like, "Oh my gosh. Kathryn's teaching design hacking. Russell's teaching funnel hacking. I could teach how to hack what I do," which is, she's, as an actress or actor... I don't know what they call themselves nowadays. I don't know what's politically correct, so I apologize to all the actors who I just offended with my unknowingness of how to say it right. But anyway, she was like, "I can teach people how to hack charisma. How is Russell able to get on stage, and what is he doing and why is he doing it?" and all that sorts of stuff. So, she decided that she was going to become the person who is going to teach people who want to become speakers or authors or selling from stage or do webinars or Facebook Lives how to actually get charisma, because a lot of people don't have that, right? They come on like, "Hi. I'm Russell," and they're all nervous, like I was 15 years ago, right? It's scary at first. So, she's like, "I'm going to teach a framework for how people can do charisma hacking." So, that began her journey. She said, "This is my thing. This is the spot in the market that I'm going to claim. I'm going to teach people this process. I'm going to call it charisma hacking, and this is my thing." Right? First off, everything so far what she's done is awesome, right? Same thing for you, right? You should be in your marketplace looking around like, "Where's the gap? Where are people not talking about? What can I do that can be unique? What is something that my gifts bring to the market that's going to be different than anybody else?" For her, because of her acting career and her understanding of these things, she thought, "This is the segment of the market I can carve out that can become my own, where I can become the category king in it." So, that's the first lesson. Second lesson. Then she went out there and she created a framework and she started a coaching program. She started training people how to do it. I'm sure she did a lot of it for free. She started going into Kathryn's groups and teaching this concept called charisma hacking, where she was testing out her process and testing things out. She came in to mine. I had her do a training for our Two Comma Club X members, because so many of I'm teaching them to publish, and they're scared to death to publish. I'm like, "Hey, McCall. Can you do a training for my people, teaching them the basics of charisma hacking and looking around and finding people who are successful and modeling them?" So, she made an amazing video for our members. So then, now, all Kathryn's members, they're my members, and other people are learning from her. She's going out there working for free, right, getting her content out there, plugging it strategically into people's coaching programs, where she has a chance to, first off, practice her material, practice her framework, essentially learning it better, and basically did all that stuff for free for everybody, right? Now, she's learning it. Now, from there, she's able to go and she's created a whole value ladder, right? She's got a core. She's got live one-on-one trainings. She's got things where she can help you, and she has a business related to that, right? Now, this is where most people mess up. They create the framework, they create the product, and then they're like, "How do I sell this thing? Ah." And they're like, "I don't know how to sell it." Obviously, there's a ton of funnels they can sell. I'm not going to talk about that, but I do want to talk about is what McCall is doing now. I just keep being more impressed with her every time I'm watching what she's doing. What she started doing three weeks ago is this thing where, as a way to get lead gen, to get people in the door, and also as a way to connect with her Dream 100. So, I'm assuming... Again, I'm not behind the scenes of all this, but I'm assuming she built out the list of like, "Okay, who are my Dream 100? Who are the people?" And by definition of the Dream 100, the Dream 100 is somebody who has your existing customers on their list, on their social profile, their following, whatever that might be, right? They have the attention of your potential dream customers. So, I'm assuming that McCall made a list, and she put me on the list, she put Dave Woodward, she put Steve Larson, and I'm not sure who else, because she's done it for three weeks now, but I'm sure there are more on there, right? So, what she's been doing is what she calls her charisma hacking weeks or charisma live or something like that, right, where basically what she's doing is each week she picks someone who's on her Dream 100. The first week was me, and she said, "I'm going to charisma hack Russell every single day for this next week." So, every day she went live on her Facebook page and said, "Okay, here's one of Russell's videos. Let me charisma hack him." So, she pushes play on my video and she pauses and talks about what I did and why did it and goes through that. First, she broke down one of my Facebook Lives. The next day she broke down one of my ads. The next day she broke down another thing. And she did that for five days, showing people how I use charisma and how they can model what I'm doing to be successful with theirs, right? Now, what's cool about it is she's tagging me in all these, so I keep seeing it. As her Dream 100, I keep being aware of the fact that she's talking about me, which is flattering, like, "Oh, this is cool." So, I watched a bunch of them, but then also, by tagging it, a lot of my people started seeing it. A lot of my people who are watching started tagging my customers and tagging people and bringing them over. So, by doing this, she's getting my attention, but she's also getting the attention of a lot of people that follow me, right? Now, obviously, right now I'm doing a podcast talking about it, so it's bringing more people to it, right? But it's smart. She's splintering off the market and saying, "Let me do five videos breaking down Russell, what he's doing, and that's going to bring his people in." Right? And the next week she picks Steven Larson, same thing. Me, Chris next, Steven Larson, and she did a Facebook Live he did, and then an ad he did, and then this and that. She broke that down and she tagged Steven on it and brought people from Steven's world into her world. Now, this week, she's doing Dave Woodward. Next week she'll do someone else, right? So, each week she has this consistent publishing process where she's out there publishing, bringing people into her world. Now they can come in, they can get into her value ladder, then they can start sending up through the products and services that she's selling. Okay, what she's doing, is she's taking this thing that she's teaching, taking her framework, and showing how it applies to other people. What's interesting is, I did something very, very similar when I launched ClickFunnels. Okay? I did the same thing, where I was out there and I started showing... It's funny, I still remember this because Lewis Howes, I used to love his website. I still love it, but I used to love his... I remember seeing his site and being so jealous of it, and I found out the company who built it is Digital Telephony,I think. Anyway, I can't say their name, but the company, and I went to try to hire them to build a website for me because Lewis's looked so freaking cool. They wanted to charge me... It was 30-something thousand dollars for them to design a webpage for me, and I was like, "Oh." I'm like, "You guys are good, but you're not that good." Right? So, when ClickFunnels came out, I wanted to show people... I was like, "I want to show you this process." So, I took Lewis's page. I remember I had my monitor. I had Lewis's page on the left-hand side and ClickFunnels on the right-hand side, and I said, "I want to show you how I can build Lewis's $30,000 webpage inside of ClickFunnels in less than 10 minutes." I went through and I literally built his webpage side-by-side until it was done. And I was like, "It looks just like his, right? It didn't cost me nothing. I did it in 10 minutes because I understand these concepts of funnel hacking." And if you were to ask Kathryn, it would be designed hacking, right? How do you model something that's already successful? So, that's what I became really, really good at doing. There's the first practical... The thing that I was doing, I was doing that for a lot of people. I would go onto to Tony Robbins pages and other pages. We used to do Facebook Lives every single week. We called them the Did You Know Show, like, "Did you know you can do this on ClickFunnels, and this and this?" And we'd show off features while I would be basically rebuilding other people's funnels inside of ClickFunnels to show them how we could... and anything else we could build in ClickFunnels as well. And that's initially how I got so much of my momentum off the ground, is by doing that, right? Anyways, I was watching McCall do this. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is brilliant." So, for you, I want you to think about this, think about your framework, right? What is the thing that you're teaching, right? Look at that. You've obviously got your product and your courses, and I'm not talking about that, but I'm talking about, how do we fill our funnel with people who are potentially going to buy that thing from us, right? How do you get the attention of your Dream 100? How do you start getting the traffic and the leads and the people coming in, right? This is all the traffic secret stuff we talk about. It's coming back and thinking about that, and then say, "Okay, how can I apply my framework to show how my Dream 100 is doing something correctly," right? "Here's how some of my Dream 100 is building a funnel. Let me show off their funnel. Here's how somebody over here is doing this, is using charisma. Let me show it. Here's how someone over here is using design hacking. Here, someone over here is using..." Fill in the blank, whatever your product is, okay? The nice thing that's... I had to talk with Dana Derricks about this one time. The coolest thing is, when you create a framework, but you name it, it becomes yours, right? So, for example, Dana is big. He teaches everyone the Dream 100, and Dana didn't come up with that. I didn't come up it. Chet Holmes was the one that introduced it to me and to Dana, but Dana's made that... His business is the Dream, the Dream 100, right? And he says, "What's cool about it," he's like, "I can now go, and when I see anybody doing any version of the Dream 100, even if they don't call it that, I can go and say, 'Hey, let me show you how Rachel Hollis used the Dream 100 to make her book the best selling book of all time...'" or of last year, right? And then he can go show that and like, "This is her process, how she did it." And even though she didn't call it the Dream 100 and didn't know, but he was able to say, "This is my framework, how she applied it. It was the Dream 100." And all of a sudden it gives all the credibility now to his framework, even though she didn't exactly know what it was, but she was still doing it, right? Or, "Here's how Tom Bilyeu uses the Dream 100. Here's how so-and-so, how so-and-so..." and start showing people using the tool, the thing that you're trying to do, right? And that is the strategy. That's the big aha, the big secret. Anyway, so think about that. What's your framework? Who are the people, either your Dream 100 or people in the media or whoever, who are unknowingly using your framework or parts of your framework that you can show and you can case study, and putting those out there as videos, as Facebook Lives, breaking them down and showing people, and people start seeing it over and over and over again. That's going to get their attention. That's going to increase the desire, and it's going to make them want the thing that you've got. Okay? Like I said, McCall Jones is doing such a cool job of it. If you go follow her on Facebook, you can see it. You can start seeing what she's doing and why she's doing it, and watch the process. Again, I'm a nerd, where I spend more time watching what people are doing than actually listening to the thing they're teaching me, right? So, with this, with McCall, I'm watching what she's doing, and I'm like, "Ah, this is brilliant. This is so smart," and I hope you guys are watching as well. Anyway, with that said, I'm at the office, I got some fun stuff to do today. I'm pumped. A lot of exciting things are happening. I can't tell you about them all right now, but the next three to six months inside ClickFunnels is going to be crazy, and I cannot wait to show you guys all the stuff we're doing. I'll reveal as much as I can behind the scenes here on the podcast, but with that said, appreciate you all. Thanks for paying attention and listening, and I'll talk to guys all soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Hacking The Hackers... full 368 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A really cool strategy to meet your Dream 100 and get their customers to flow into your funnels. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back... A really cool strategy to meet your Dream 100 and get their customers to flow into your funnels. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys are pumped and excited for today. Today, I'm going to bring you some charisma, some hacking, some excitement, and a whole bunch of fun stuff. All right, everybody. I wanted to funnel hack somebody today because what they're doing is really, really cool, and I think it would behoove you all to watch what she is doing. The person I'm talking about, her name is McCall Jones. The story, as I know it, and I probably don't know all the details, but she is related to Kathryn Jones, who is our resident design hacker who spoke at Funnel Hacking Live this year about design hacking. She was so excited that she was going to speak on stage. She invited her friends and her family to all come watch her crush it, and she did crush it. She did an amazing job. One of her... I think it's her sister-in-law, came not knowing anything about what in the world we do, and she sat there and watched Kathryn do her thing. Then she watched the entire event, and she was like, "This is amazing. I want to do something related to this." Now, McCall's background... Actually, I don't know all her background. I do know that she was on... What's that show? I keep thinking it's So You Think You Can Dance. That's not it. She's was on High School Musical, part two, I believe. I may quote that wrong. Maybe it's part one. I've never seen either of them, I'm not going to lie, but I think she was on High School Musical, part two. So, she's got an acting career and a bunch of stuff like that. But she's watching this, and she's like, "Oh my gosh. Kathryn's teaching design hacking. Russell's teaching funnel hacking. I could teach how to hack what I do," which is, she's, as an actress or actor... I don't know what they call themselves nowadays. I don't know what's politically correct, so I apologize to all the actors who I just offended with my unknowingness of how to say it right. But anyway, she was like, "I can teach people how to hack charisma. How is Russell able to get on stage, and what is he doing and why is he doing it?" and all that sorts of stuff. So, she decided that she was going to become the person who is going to teach people who want to become speakers or authors or selling from stage or do webinars or Facebook Lives how to actually get charisma, because a lot of people don't have that, right? They come on like, "Hi. I'm Russell," and they're all nervous, like I was 15 years ago, right? It's scary at first. So, she's like, "I'm going to teach a framework for how people can do charisma hacking." So, that began her journey. She said, "This is my thing. This is the spot in the market that I'm going to claim. I'm going to teach people this process. I'm going to call it charisma hacking, and this is my thing." Right? First off, everything so far what she's done is awesome, right? Same thing for you, right? You should be in your marketplace looking around like, "Where's the gap? Where are people not talking about? What can I do that can be unique? What is something that my gifts bring to the market that's going to be different than anybody else?" For her, because of her acting career and her understanding of these things, she thought, "This is the segment of the market I can carve out that can become my own, where I can become the category king in it." So, that's the first lesson. Second lesson. Then she went out there and she created a framework and she started a coaching program. She started training people how to do it. I'm sure she did a lot of it for free. She started going into Kathryn's groups and teaching this concept called charisma hacking, where she was testing out her process and testing things out. She came in to mine. I had her do a training for our Two Comma Club X members, because so many of I'm teaching them to publish, and they're scared to death to publish. I'm like, "Hey, McCall. Can you do a training for my people, teaching them the basics of charisma hacking and looking around and finding people who are successful and modeling them?" So, she made an amazing video for our members. So then, now, all Kathryn's members, they're my members, and other people are learning from her. She's going out there working for free, right, getting her content out there, plugging it strategically into people's coaching programs, where she has a chance to, first off, practice her material, practice her framework, essentially learning it better, and basically did all that stuff for free for everybody, right? Now, she's learning it. Now, from there, she's able to go and she's created a whole value ladder, right? She's got a core. She's got live one-on-one trainings. She's got things where she can help you, and she has a business related to that, right? Now, this is where most people mess up. They create the framework, they create the product, and then they're like, "How do I sell this thing? Ah." And they're like, "I don't know how to sell it." Obviously, there's a ton of funnels they can sell. I'm not going to talk about that, but I do want to talk about is what McCall is doing now. I just keep being more impressed with her every time I'm watching what she's doing. What she started doing three weeks ago is this thing where, as a way to get lead gen, to get people in the door, and also as a way to connect with her Dream 100. So, I'm assuming... Again, I'm not behind the scenes of all this, but I'm assuming she built out the list of like, "Okay, who are my Dream 100? Who are the people?" And by definition of the Dream 100, the Dream 100 is somebody who has your existing customers on their list, on their social profile, their following, whatever that might be, right? They have the attention of your potential dream customers. So, I'm assuming that McCall made a list, and she put me on the list, she put Dave Woodward, she put Steve Larson, and I'm not sure who else, because she's done it for three weeks now, but I'm sure there are more on there, right? So, what she's been doing is what she calls her charisma hacking weeks or charisma live or something like that, right, where basically what she's doing is each week she picks someone who's on her Dream 100. The first week was me, and she said, "I'm going to charisma hack Russell every single day for this next week." So, every day she went live on her Facebook page and said, "Okay, here's one of Russell's videos. Let me charisma hack him." So, she pushes play on my video and she pauses and talks about what I did and why did it and goes through that. First, she broke down one of my Facebook Lives. The next day she broke down one of my ads. The next day she broke down another thing. And she did that for five days, showing people how I use charisma and how they can model what I'm doing to be successful with theirs, right? Now, what's cool about it is she's tagging me in all these, so I keep seeing it. As her Dream 100, I keep being aware of the fact that she's talking about me, which is flattering, like, "Oh, this is cool." So, I watched a bunch of them, but then also, by tagging it, a lot of my people started seeing it. A lot of my people who are watching started tagging my customers and tagging people and bringing them over. So, by doing this, she's getting my attention, but she's also getting the attention of a lot of people that follow me, right? Now, obviously, right now I'm doing a podcast talking about it, so it's bringing more people to it, right? But it's smart. She's splintering off the market and saying, "Let me do five videos breaking down Russell, what he's doing, and that's going to bring his people in." Right? And the next week she picks Steven Larson, same thing. Me, Chris next, Steven Larson, and she did a Facebook Live he did, and then an ad he did, and then this and that. She broke that down and she tagged Steven on it and brought people from Steven's world into her world. Now, this week, she's doing Dave Woodward. Next week she'll do someone else, right? So, each week she has this consistent publishing process where she's out there publishing, bringing people into her world. Now they can come in, they can get into her value ladder, then they can start sending up through the products and services that she's selling. Okay, what she's doing, is she's taking this thing that she's teaching, taking her framework, and showing how it applies to other people. What's interesting is, I did something very, very similar when I launched ClickFunnels. Okay? I did the same thing, where I was out there and I started showing... It's funny, I still remember this because Lewis Howes, I used to love his website. I still love it, but I used to love his... I remember seeing his site and being so jealous of it, and I found out the company who built it is Digital Telephony,I think. Anyway, I can't say their name, but the company, and I went to try to hire them to build a website for me because Lewis's looked so freaking cool. They wanted to charge me... It was 30-something thousand dollars for them to design a webpage for me, and I was like, "Oh." I'm like, "You guys are good, but you're not that good." Right? So, when ClickFunnels came out, I wanted to show people... I was like, "I want to show you this process." So, I took Lewis's page. I remember I had my monitor. I had Lewis's page on the left-hand side and ClickFunnels on the right-hand side, and I said, "I want to show you how I can build Lewis's $30,000 webpage inside of ClickFunnels in less than 10 minutes." I went through and I literally built his webpage side-by-side until it was done. And I was like, "It looks just like his, right? It didn't cost me nothing. I did it in 10 minutes because I understand these concepts of funnel hacking." And if you were to ask Kathryn, it would be designed hacking, right? How do you model something that's already successful? So, that's what I became really, really good at doing. There's the first practical... The thing that I was doing, I was doing that for a lot of people. I would go onto to Tony Robbins pages and other pages. We used to do Facebook Lives every single week. We called them the Did You Know Show, like, "Did you know you can do this on ClickFunnels, and this and this?" And we'd show off features while I would be basically rebuilding other people's funnels inside of ClickFunnels to show them how we could... and anything else we could build in ClickFunnels as well. And that's initially how I got so much of my momentum off the ground, is by doing that, right? Anyways, I was watching McCall do this. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is brilliant." So, for you, I want you to think about this, think about your framework, right? What is the thing that you're teaching, right? Look at that. You've obviously got your product and your courses, and I'm not talking about that, but I'm talking about, how do we fill our funnel with people who are potentially going to buy that thing from us, right? How do you get the attention of your Dream 100? How do you start getting the traffic and the leads and the people coming in, right? This is all the traffic secret stuff we talk about. It's coming back and thinking about that, and then say, "Okay, how can I apply my framework to show how my Dream 100 is doing something correctly," right? "Here's how some of my Dream 100 is building a funnel. Let me show off their funnel. Here's how somebody over here is doing this, is using charisma. Let me show it. Here's how someone over here is using design hacking. Here, someone over here is using..." Fill in the blank, whatever your product is, okay? The nice thing that's... I had to talk with Dana Derricks about this one time. The coolest thing is, when you create a framework, but you name it, it becomes yours, right? So, for example, Dana is big. He teaches everyone the Dream 100, and Dana didn't come up with that. I didn't come up it. Chet Holmes was the one that introduced it to me and to Dana, but Dana's made that... His business is the Dream, the Dream 100, right? And he says, "What's cool about it," he's like, "I can now go, and when I see anybody doing any version of the Dream 100, even if they don't call it that, I can go and say, 'Hey, let me show you how Rachel Hollis used the Dream 100 to make her book the best selling book of all time...'" or of last year, right? And then he can go show that and like, "This is her process, how she did it." And even though she didn't call it the Dream 100 and didn't know, but he was able to say, "This is my framework, how she applied it. It was the Dream 100." And all of a sudden it gives all the credibility now to his framework, even though she didn't exactly know what it was, but she was still doing it, right? Or, "Here's how Tom Bilyeu uses the Dream 100. Here's how so-and-so, how so-and-so..." and start showing people using the tool, the thing that you're trying to do, right? And that is the strategy. That's the big aha, the big secret. Anyway, so think about that. What's your framework? Who are the people, either your Dream 100 or people in the media or whoever, who are unknowingly using your framework or parts of your framework that you can show and you can case study, and putting those out there as videos, as Facebook Lives, breaking them down and showing people, and people start seeing it over and over and over again. That's going to get their attention. That's going to increase the desire, and it's going to make them want the thing that you've got. Okay? Like I said, McCall Jones is doing such a cool job of it. If you go follow her on Facebook, you can see it. You can start seeing what she's doing and why she's doing it, and watch the process. Again, I'm a nerd, where I spend more time watching what people are doing than actually listening to the thing they're teaching me, right? So, with this, with McCall, I'm watching what she's doing, and I'm like, "Ah, this is brilliant. This is so smart," and I hope you guys are watching as well. Anyway, with that said, I'm at the office, I got some fun stuff to do today. I'm pumped. A lot of exciting things are happening. I can't tell you about them all right now, but the next three to six months inside ClickFunnels is going to be crazy, and I cannot wait to show you guys all the stuff we're doing. I'll reveal as much as I can behind the scenes here on the podcast, but with that said, appreciate you all. Thanks for paying attention and listening, and I'll talk to guys all soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A really cool strategy to meet your Dream 100 and get their customers to flow into your funnels.

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What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys are pumped and excited for today. Today, I'm going to bring you some charisma, some hacking, some excitement, and a whole bunch of fun stuff. All right, everybody. I wanted to funnel hack somebody today because what they're doing is really, really cool, and I think it would behoove you all to watch what she is doing.

The person I'm talking about, her name is McCall Jones. The story, as I know it, and I probably don't know all the details, but she is related to Kathryn Jones, who is our resident design hacker who spoke at Funnel Hacking Live this year about design hacking. She was so excited that she was going to speak on stage. She invited her friends and her family to all come watch her crush it, and she did crush it. She did an amazing job. One of her... I think it's her sister-in-law, came not knowing anything about what in the world we do, and she sat there and watched Kathryn do her thing. Then she watched the entire event, and she was like, "This is amazing. I want to do something related to this."

Now, McCall's background... Actually, I don't know all her background. I do know that she was on... What's that show? I keep thinking it's So You Think You Can Dance. That's not it. She's was on High School Musical, part two, I believe. I may quote that wrong. Maybe it's part one. I've never seen either of them, I'm not going to lie, but I think she was on High School Musical, part two. So, she's got an acting career and a bunch of stuff like that. But she's watching this, and she's like, "Oh my gosh. Kathryn's teaching design hacking. Russell's teaching funnel hacking. I could teach how to hack what I do," which is, she's, as an actress or actor... I don't know what they call themselves nowadays. I don't know what's politically correct, so I apologize to all the actors who I just offended with my unknowingness of how to say it right.

But anyway, she was like, "I can teach people how to hack charisma. How is Russell able to get on stage, and what is he doing and why is he doing it?" and all that sorts of stuff. So, she decided that she was going to become the person who is going to teach people who want to become speakers or authors or selling from stage or do webinars or Facebook Lives how to actually get charisma, because a lot of people don't have that, right? They come on like, "Hi. I'm Russell," and they're all nervous, like I was 15 years ago, right? It's scary at first. So, she's like, "I'm going to teach a framework for how people can do charisma hacking." So, that began her journey. She said, "This is my thing. This is the spot in the market that I'm going to claim. I'm going to teach people this process. I'm going to call it charisma hacking, and this is my thing." Right?

First off, everything so far what she's done is awesome, right? Same thing for you, right? You should be in your marketplace looking around like, "Where's the gap? Where are people not talking about? What can I do that can be unique? What is something that my gifts bring to the market that's going to be different than anybody else?" For her, because of her acting career and her understanding of these things, she thought, "This is the segment of the market I can carve out that can become my own, where I can become the category king in it." So, that's the first lesson.

Second lesson. Then she went out there and she created a framework and she started a coaching program. She started training people how to do it. I'm sure she did a lot of it for free. She started going into Kathryn's groups and teaching this concept called charisma hacking, where she was testing out her process and testing things out. She came in to mine. I had her do a training for our Two Comma Club X members, because so many of I'm teaching them to publish, and they're scared to death to publish. I'm like, "Hey, McCall. Can you do a training for my people, teaching them the basics of charisma hacking and looking around and finding people who are successful and modeling them?" So, she made an amazing video for our members.

So then, now, all Kathryn's members, they're my members, and other people are learning from her. She's going out there working for free, right, getting her content out there, plugging it strategically into people's coaching programs, where she has a chance to, first off, practice her material, practice her framework, essentially learning it better, and basically did all that stuff for free for everybody, right? Now, she's learning it. Now, from there, she's able to go and she's created a whole value ladder, right? She's got a core. She's got live one-on-one trainings. She's got things where she can help you, and she has a business related to that, right?

Now, this is where most people mess up. They create the framework, they create the product, and then they're like, "How do I sell this thing? Ah." And they're like, "I don't know how to sell it." Obviously, there's a ton of funnels they can sell. I'm not going to talk about that, but I do want to talk about is what McCall is doing now. I just keep being more impressed with her every time I'm watching what she's doing. What she started doing three weeks ago is this thing where, as a way to get lead gen, to get people in the door, and also as a way to connect with her Dream 100. So, I'm assuming... Again, I'm not behind the scenes of all this, but I'm assuming she built out the list of like, "Okay, who are my Dream 100? Who are the people?"

And by definition of the Dream 100, the Dream 100 is somebody who has your existing customers on their list, on their social profile, their following, whatever that might be, right? They have the attention of your potential dream customers. So, I'm assuming that McCall made a list, and she put me on the list, she put Dave Woodward, she put Steve Larson, and I'm not sure who else, because she's done it for three weeks now, but I'm sure there are more on there, right?

So, what she's been doing is what she calls her charisma hacking weeks or charisma live or something like that, right, where basically what she's doing is each week she picks someone who's on her Dream 100. The first week was me, and she said, "I'm going to charisma hack Russell every single day for this next week." So, every day she went live on her Facebook page and said, "Okay, here's one of Russell's videos. Let me charisma hack him." So, she pushes play on my video and she pauses and talks about what I did and why did it and goes through that. First, she broke down one of my Facebook Lives. The next day she broke down one of my ads. The next day she broke down another thing. And she did that for five days, showing people how I use charisma and how they can model what I'm doing to be successful with theirs, right?

Now, what's cool about it is she's tagging me in all these, so I keep seeing it. As her Dream 100, I keep being aware of the fact that she's talking about me, which is flattering, like, "Oh, this is cool." So, I watched a bunch of them, but then also, by tagging it, a lot of my people started seeing it. A lot of my people who are watching started tagging my customers and tagging people and bringing them over. So, by doing this, she's getting my attention, but she's also getting the attention of a lot of people that follow me, right?

Now, obviously, right now I'm doing a podcast talking about it, so it's bringing more people to it, right? But it's smart. She's splintering off the market and saying, "Let me do five videos breaking down Russell, what he's doing, and that's going to bring his people in." Right? And the next week she picks Steven Larson, same thing. Me, Chris next, Steven Larson, and she did a Facebook Live he did, and then an ad he did, and then this and that. She broke that down and she tagged Steven on it and brought people from Steven's world into her world. Now, this week, she's doing Dave Woodward. Next week she'll do someone else, right? So, each week she has this consistent publishing process where she's out there publishing, bringing people into her world.

Now they can come in, they can get into her value ladder, then they can start sending up through the products and services that she's selling. Okay, what she's doing, is she's taking this thing that she's teaching, taking her framework, and showing how it applies to other people. What's interesting is, I did something very, very similar when I launched ClickFunnels. Okay? I did the same thing, where I was out there and I started showing... It's funny, I still remember this because Lewis Howes, I used to love his website. I still love it, but I used to love his... I remember seeing his site and being so jealous of it, and I found out the company who built it is Digital Telephony,I think. Anyway, I can't say their name, but the company, and I went to try to hire them to build a website for me because Lewis's looked so freaking cool.

They wanted to charge me... It was 30-something thousand dollars for them to design a webpage for me, and I was like, "Oh." I'm like, "You guys are good, but you're not that good." Right? So, when ClickFunnels came out, I wanted to show people... I was like, "I want to show you this process." So, I took Lewis's page. I remember I had my monitor. I had Lewis's page on the left-hand side and ClickFunnels on the right-hand side, and I said, "I want to show you how I can build Lewis's $30,000 webpage inside of ClickFunnels in less than 10 minutes." I went through and I literally built his webpage side-by-side until it was done. And I was like, "It looks just like his, right? It didn't cost me nothing. I did it in 10 minutes because I understand these concepts of funnel hacking." And if you were to ask Kathryn, it would be designed hacking, right? How do you model something that's already successful? So, that's what I became really, really good at doing.

There's the first practical... The thing that I was doing, I was doing that for a lot of people. I would go onto to Tony Robbins pages and other pages. We used to do Facebook Lives every single week. We called them the Did You Know Show, like, "Did you know you can do this on ClickFunnels, and this and this?" And we'd show off features while I would be basically rebuilding other people's funnels inside of ClickFunnels to show them how we could... and anything else we could build in ClickFunnels as well. And that's initially how I got so much of my momentum off the ground, is by doing that, right?

Anyways, I was watching McCall do this. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is brilliant." So, for you, I want you to think about this, think about your framework, right? What is the thing that you're teaching, right? Look at that. You've obviously got your product and your courses, and I'm not talking about that, but I'm talking about, how do we fill our funnel with people who are potentially going to buy that thing from us, right? How do you get the attention of your Dream 100? How do you start getting the traffic and the leads and the people coming in, right? This is all the traffic secret stuff we talk about. It's coming back and thinking about that, and then say, "Okay, how can I apply my framework to show how my Dream 100 is doing something correctly," right? "Here's how some of my Dream 100 is building a funnel. Let me show off their funnel. Here's how somebody over here is doing this, is using charisma. Let me show it. Here's how someone over here is using design hacking. Here, someone over here is using..." Fill in the blank, whatever your product is, okay?

The nice thing that's... I had to talk with Dana Derricks about this one time. The coolest thing is, when you create a framework, but you name it, it becomes yours, right? So, for example, Dana is big. He teaches everyone the Dream 100, and Dana didn't come up with that. I didn't come up it. Chet Holmes was the one that introduced it to me and to Dana, but Dana's made that... His business is the Dream, the Dream 100, right? And he says, "What's cool about it," he's like, "I can now go, and when I see anybody doing any version of the Dream 100, even if they don't call it that, I can go and say, 'Hey, let me show you how Rachel Hollis used the Dream 100 to make her book the best selling book of all time...'" or of last year, right? And then he can go show that and like, "This is her process, how she did it."

And even though she didn't call it the Dream 100 and didn't know, but he was able to say, "This is my framework, how she applied it. It was the Dream 100." And all of a sudden it gives all the credibility now to his framework, even though she didn't exactly know what it was, but she was still doing it, right? Or, "Here's how Tom Bilyeu uses the Dream 100. Here's how so-and-so, how so-and-so..." and start showing people using the tool, the thing that you're trying to do, right? And that is the strategy. That's the big aha, the big secret.

Anyway, so think about that. What's your framework? Who are the people, either your Dream 100 or people in the media or whoever, who are unknowingly using your framework or parts of your framework that you can show and you can case study, and putting those out there as videos, as Facebook Lives, breaking them down and showing people, and people start seeing it over and over and over again. That's going to get their attention. That's going to increase the desire, and it's going to make them want the thing that you've got. Okay?

Like I said, McCall Jones is doing such a cool job of it. If you go follow her on Facebook, you can see it. You can start seeing what she's doing and why she's doing it, and watch the process. Again, I'm a nerd, where I spend more time watching what people are doing than actually listening to the thing they're teaching me, right? So, with this, with McCall, I'm watching what she's doing, and I'm like, "Ah, this is brilliant. This is so smart," and I hope you guys are watching as well.

Anyway, with that said, I'm at the office, I got some fun stuff to do today. I'm pumped. A lot of exciting things are happening. I can't tell you about them all right now, but the next three to six months inside ClickFunnels is going to be crazy, and I cannot wait to show you guys all the stuff we're doing. I'll reveal as much as I can behind the scenes here on the podcast, but with that said, appreciate you all. Thanks for paying attention and listening, and I'll talk to guys all soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 799 no The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 5 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-atlas-shrugged-interview-part-5-of-5 Welcome to the final segment of this special interview! In this episode you get to hear Russell answer all these interesting questions: Who do you look up to? What is Tony Robbins like? How do you “deal” when things get heavy? What do you sacrifice for success? Is there closure as an entrepreneur? What do you want to be known or remembered for? Russell and Josh chat about all this and much more in the exciting conclusion to this “Atlas Shrugged” interview series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson, and I want to welcome you, first off, to the Marketing Secrets podcast; and, second off, to the last part of our five-part Atlas Shrugged interview series. The exciting conclusion. At this time, we'd been going for three-plus hours. I was really, really tired. If I sound like I am kind of out of it, it's because I was probably a little bit out of it. We started the interview at 8:00 or 9:00 at night, so this is probably midnight or so. The night before, I had slept three hours. Or, two nights before, it was three-and-a-half... Three hours and 12 minutes. I remember. I wear an aura ring, so I track my sleep cycle. So, the night before, I slept three hours and 12 minutes. The night before this was, like, five hours. So I was tired. I was worn out. But I still had a lot of fun with it. I think Josh is a great interviewer. And I think that we had a lot of fun talking about all this stuff. So, with that said, you guys, hope you enjoyed this interview series. And, when we come back from the theme song, you have a chance to jump right into the exciting conclusion. Part five of the Atlas Shrugged interview. Josh Forti: So, one of the things you talk about in... Well, actually, expert secrets. But I think they mention it... She kind of mentions it in this book, too... is creating belief by looking up to somebody. And, if you can't see it, if nobody else has done it, then it's hard for people to kind of imagine it and ingrain it. Like, for me, I look up at... I'm like, "Who do I want to be like? What business do I want?" I'm like, "Okay, cool." Like you and your books, I want to be like that type of bit here. And then Katie Richards is another one. Being a powerful person, just in general. Okay, like, these are the people that I look up to, and I'm like, "Okay. That's what I'm going towards." So, for you, who are those people? Like, in your life. That you look up to, and you're like, "Okay, that's it." Because I feel like, the higher you get... And, I mean, you're not all the way up the ladder, right? There's still plenty more. But you're way above where the average person is going to get to. The average person has a lot of people they can look up to. You, there's a lot less options, I feel like. Who are those people that you look up to and go, "Okay, that's who I'm trying to be more like," or, "That's where I learned my lessons from." Russell Brunson: Yeah. There's different parts of my life for different people, too. You know? Josh: Yeah. Russell: I look at the business side, I know the companies I aspire to be like. Salesforce, Shopify, HubSpot. Those are companies that are just like the next tier, but from where we are. That they've crossed the chasm, where we're still trying to figure out how to... That next tier. Right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: I think watching them has been... That's when we said we'd go to DreamForce two years in a row, just because I wanted to... And I talked about it, actually, on my podcast. Because when I was out there, it was like... And you need to see it to understand it. Because I remember, when I was wrestling, my dad, my freshman year, took us to the... I had just started wrestling. He took us to the state tournament. I saw this guy on my team win state. And I was like, "That's what I want." Exactly what it was. That'd be my goal. And you see it to do it. So I think for me, those are kind of the businesses that I look up to. People, I mean, Tony... From an influence... Like, people speaking, Tony still, to me, is like... Who's bigger than him, right? Josh: Right, right. Russell: Or better. And the fact I've had a chance to build a friendship with him is really cool, because it's been interesting to see him not on stage. You know what I mean? Like, everyone has a chance to see him on stage, and he's the best in the world on there. But then you see him offstage, and see who he really is. And it's just cool to see that, I don't know, someone who's been doing this for that long, consistently, who still cares, who's still doing this. He doesn't need money, but he still is doing events almost every day of the year, because he wants that. So I think that- Josh: He can stop. Russell: Yeah. And I get it. I have so much respect for that. So I think that's a big thing. Yeah. Just, different areas of life, there's different people. But- Josh: What's it like- Russell: I've tried harder and harder to get closer and closer to him, because I like seeing... I like understanding them, not just from the outside, but understanding from inside. Because it's just a different perspective that you don't get. You know what I mean? Josh: Yeah. What is it it like? What is Tony like? Russell: Honestly, he's like a little kid. We went to his house, and... I can't talk with details, but he had a slide in his house, and he went down the slide with us, and it just... It was really cool. And we had a chance to go with him and do the meditation thing. And the way he served us, when we were with him at his house, you can tell it's how he wishes he could serve everybody. You know? And that just is hard. Like, you saw him... He's in this room serving us, and he's crying, and you see this emotion. And you're just like, "Oh my gosh," like, "he would do this for everyone if he could." But he can't. So that's why you do these big scale things. But it's the best way he can do that. But I think, if he could, he would do that for every single human being he could. It's just really... I don't know. It's cool. There's been a lot of situations, when I've been around him, where he could have not... He could have easily, like, turned it off. You know, but it's sincere. He doesn't turn it off. You know what I mean? And I try to be that way as much as I can. And hopefully you've seen, now with me and my kids? Josh: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Russell: I try to. And obviously, there's Russell, who's a more introverted, more reserved, and then there’s Russell who’s gonna be like, "Ahh!" But it's still the same... Hopefully. I want to be growing like that. Like, I'd respect him, because he's... In every situation I've seen him, he's always been sincere. Which is not... I can't say that about most people in our industry, and our world. Josh: Yeah. For sure. Russell: Which is unfortunate, because it's just like, "You are..." I remember one time I was in an event, and I heard this guy speak. He was awesome. And he just breaks down crying in the middle of this event, in the middle of the speech. And I was like, "This guy is great." And he got offstage. And he looks at me, and he's like... He said something like, "I pulled out the fake tears again." And I was like, "What?" I remember just feeling like... Ugh. I just felt so sick. How does someone do that and not... He was all proud of it. Like, "Ha," like, "I got them with my..." I just remember feeling so... Just dirty. And I just didn't like that. I was like, "I don't want to be that way. I want to be..." I don't want people saying, like, "Oh, yeah, Russell's different here than here." I don't want people saying that. Josh: Yeah. Like, one consistent person. The same person on and off stage. Russell: Yeah. Josh: There's certain people that... You just know. You meet them, and they're just genuine all the way through. Right? Russell: Mm-hmm Josh: I'm trying to think... Like Catherine Jones, right? For example. She's awesome, right? We had dinner. I had dinner with her, and... Well, God. I had dinner with her, and some friends... Russell: "What am I allowed to say in the podcast?" Josh: Yeah. No, her and some friends, when I was in Utah last. And I've had her as a client. I've watched her speak on stage, in front of... Live. I've had dinner with her. And it's like, it is the same person. Right? Russell: So cool. Josh: And there are people like that. And they're rare. I really do think- Russell: That's what people say. Like, "You never want to meet your mentors, because they're going to disappoint you." Josh: Yeah. Russell: Because of that. Because it's like, "Oh, you put them on this pedestal, and you see them in real life, and you're like... 'Huh. Well. That's disappointing.'" And then it negates all the stuff... That's my biggest thing, is that I don't want somebody who... I gave them something, to help them, and they see me in real life, and it's like, "Oh." It negates- Josh: Yeah! Russell: All you just gave them. Which it does, right? Josh: It really does. Because it takes away the trust factor. Russell: Yeah. And so it's just like... I don't know. Because I think I was nervous meeting Tony the first time. I was like, "What if..." Josh: Yeah, no kidding. Russell: You know? And you see him multiple times, over and over and over, and you're just like, "Cool." It's just neat to see that. Josh: So, what's interesting is, one of my biggest reservations about Tony before... You, and Funnel Hacking Live, was actually the thing that warmed me up to Tony. Because I didn't really know a whole lot... I'd never experienced Tony like I have at Funnel Hacking Live, or anything like that. It's so crazy. You walk into the room when he's talking, and it's like you feel the energy shift. Russell: Nobody on earth has presence like that. Josh: It is insane. Like, everyone tells you about it, but then you don't really believe it until you experience it. And I remember, actually, it was in Orlando. The first time, when he was down there or whatever. And I remember, he came... He was in the room... I was in the room when he entered. And energy, obviously, just like when anybody walks on stage, was quite ramped up. But then he just went into his normal talking. And I remember leaving the room. And, most people, you walk in and you feel it? And I remember opening that door, and shutting it, and like... My whole body shifted. Out of this high energy state, into the low energy state. And I felt like, if I was in that room, I could literally go forever. Right? It was just this nonstop source of energy. But what was interesting about Tony is, Tony doesn't really talk about God. Which is super interesting. Like, I don't know what faith Tony is. And maybe he's talked about it in something about that. And so, for me, one of the biggest struggles that I had... Because, well, growing up, and when I first the house, and when I first got into the entrepreneurship, I, like, really wrestled with God. Right? Especially, you know, going through the death of my brother was actually, ironically, the thing that brought me back to God. But I really, really wrestled with that. And so, for Tony, it was like, he's got all this energy, and he's connecting to this higher source, and he's talking about all these things, but he never... He never ties it to anything. He never gives credit to... Well, in this story I'm telling myself at the time, he's never giving credit to this higher... thing. Like, where does that all come from? And then, the more I got to know Tony... Not personally, but through his work, and through watching his videos, and seeing him at Funnel Hacking Live... I'm like, "I don't know what it is that he believes." I've never sat down... And if I ever get to interview him, I'm absolutely asking him that question. But, whatever that is, I don't think it's possible to be incongruent. Because it's... I don't know! It's not of Earth, almost. It's like you're tapping into something that isn't... In in order to operate at that level, you can't be selfish. Like, you know what I mean? Do you sense that with him at all? Like- Russell: Yeah. And he is, I think... And I'm sure you've seen it before. You talk political, and your audience is cut in half, right? Josh Forti: Yeah. Russell: I think for him, he's traveling such a world-global thing. I mean, Tony is Christian. But it's tough because half the world he speaks to are not Christians. Josh: Right. Russell: And so he... He draws that line, because he doesn't want to alienate people. Because he's like, "I'm here to serve God, and..." Josh: Right. Russell: “God didn’t send me to serve a certain group, it’s to serve everybody.” I think... That's my guess, as to why he doesn't anchor that in as a hard thing. Because his audience is so massive. But he definitely, if you ask him, he definitely knows where it's coming from. You know what I mean? Because, wherever he talks about it, he's... You know, the first time he told me, he's like... It's funny, because I'd experienced this myself, and didn't have words to put to it. Because I come on stage, I have a plan, everything's there. I start talking, and all of the sudden, like, something comes through me? And he's like, "It never comes out the way that I plan, but it always comes out perfect." And he's like, "As long as I follow that, it always just works out perfect." Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I've had so many times where I... Again, I start talking about something, I don't know where I'm going. I'm like, "Why am I talking about this?" And then all of the sudden, it's like, "Oh, wow." And there's somebody... Like, that was the thing that- Josh: Connected it. Russell: Shifted it for them. You know what I mean? And I think the more that you tap into that, the more... Again, it comes back to what I talked about before, like, where you do that... God's giving you this thing, and if you have stewardship over it, and you use it, he'll give it to you more and more. And Tony, now, who's been doing it for 40 years... Josh: It's actually super interesting you say that. So, literally, every Tuesday, I meet with Katie. Right? And we have our one-on-one call, and we talk for an hour. And one of the topics of conversation was, I was like, "Katie..." We were actually talking about getting ready for this interview. I was like, "I don't feel nervous. At all." Right? And I'm like, "And I'm getting so many texts and DMS or whatever, like, 'Oh my gosh, are you nervous? What if you mess up?'” And, so many… So many different things, right? And I'm like, "I don't feel any of that. I feel like this is just like, 'All right, cool. I'm flying out to Russell. We're gonna hang out. It's gonna be great. We're gonna go.'" And I'm like, "So, why is everybody else telling me I should be nervous? Right? Like, why is that a thing?" One of the things that she said was like, "Being who you are, being your person, knowing yourself, and, like, doing this..." But one of the things that we talked about was some of the things that you have to accept by faith. And I was really wrestling with this idea of, like, "Am I supposed to be prepared?" Am I? Russell voxed me and was like, "This is the first interview he's ever prepared for." I'm like, "I just read the book. I don't have any notes prepared for him! I'm just gonna show up and talk, right? That's what I do." And she's like, "But that's your superpower. That-" And sometimes you have to just have faith. And she's like, "You prepare 80% of the way, and leave the 20% up to God." And she's like, "And most people are not going to understand that. And, for a lot of people, that's going to freak it out." But she's like, "How many times have you prepared something 100%, you knew every word you were going to say?" And I'm like, "Very little." She's like, "Well, think back to one of the times that you did." I'm like, "Okay," and she's like, "How'd it go? I was like, "Well, terrible! Literally. It was some of my worst presentations. The most prepared I come, the biggest it'll flop." Right? And she's like, "And the least you prepare sometimes, you just walk in confidently and you do your best, turns out amazing." Yeah. Because that's what Tony's talking about, like, "It just comes over you." It's like, if you have faith that, when you show up and become... You are the best version of yourself. You show up the most prepared you can be. And you just fully embrace that, and have faith in the rest? God, the universe, whatever you want to call it, I feel like it just works the rest of it out. You know what I mean? Russell: Understood. Yeah. That's why, before I do anything, I pray before. I prayed before this call. Or, what's it called? Before this interview, before I step on stage every single time. Because a big part of it's like... Without that, what good are your words? You know what I mean? If you're doing it with the Spirit, with God... Whatever you want to call it, you know? For me, it's the Spirit. If you're with the Spirit, then it'll touch people, in a way that you can't just by your words alone. And so I always ask that, and I look for help. And I remember, I think Steven Larson, the first time he was working for me, we did our first event in the room over here. And I remember, before I would do the events myself, he started working for me. And I was in the back here. And I was saying a prayer, and he walked in. He's like, "Oh, sorry!" He's like, "That's cool." I'm like, "What?" He's like, "You pray before you go out there." I was like, "Oh, yeah. I'm not going out there by myself!" Like, you know? I'm not that good. So, I need help, and it shows up when you... pray. Josh: All right, I have two questions that I want to ask you, before we kind of go to rapid-fire, to kind of bring this to a close. I don't know. We could probably go all night, but... Russell: You just want us to keep going all night? Or you want us to go to bed? Josh: How much longer do we go for? Are you guys liking this? Comment down below. Let us know. Give some feedback. Do you like it? Do you not like it? What are your thoughts? We've been going for about three hours. And I figured, at least, it was going to go at least this long. Russell: I guarantee there's going to be some of you guys who are like, "I agree with everything," to be like, "I agree with half," or to be like, "I don't understand what they're saying. I agree with nothing." So- That's okay. There's nothing... Again, our goal was not to motivate, was not to try to convince you guys of anything. That's not my goal. Our goal was to flesh out these ideas, and hopefully you guys come on the journey, and get some cool ideas from it, and see how perceive life. I think what's fascinating is everybody has such a different perspective on life. And so many times, when we hear somebody else's perspective, we get offended. And it's like, "What if you didn't get offended, and just listened to their perspective?" And maybe you don't listen to everything, but you're like, "Oh. I'm going to take that, and that. Those are two things that were really cool for me." Just don't pay attention to the rest of it. Right? Because I'm sure, if you paid attention to everything that we both said, you probably got offended at least 12 times. But if you're just like, "I'm just going to take the gold that's good for me, and then leave everything else on the side," you got a dozen amazing things that you can use, hopefully. So. Josh: All right. And so my next question is, who are you voting for? No, I'm just kidding. Russell: Ugh. Actually, last year, I don't... Four years ago... So, I'm a big Jack Bauer fan, and I bought "Jack Bauer for president" shirts. And then, that whole day, I was Instagramming and Facebooking, "I'm writing in Jack Bauer! I'm writing in Jack Bauer!" And I would have if he was a real human. But, anyway. Josh: That's funny. Who was I just... Oh, Leah, I was talking to her on the way, as we were driving to the airport. We were talking about Joe Rogan. And, because Joe Rogan is... It's so funny, because people... Like, Trump retweeted one of his tweets. And Joe Rogan's a big liberal, right? Like, he even said he was going to vote for Bernie, before Biden became the nominee. And so I feel like a lot of Trump supporters, are like, "Yeah, Joe Rogan's a Trump fan!" Like, Joe Rogan is not a Trump fan. That's not at all what it is. And so we were like, "Well, who do you think he's going to vote for?" And I was like, "If I was a betting man, I would bet that he votes for Kanye. That he wrote him in." Because he does this three-hour interview. And Kanye answers... If you watch the interview... I mean, I know it's three hours of your time, and you'll probably never get to it. But it is a fascinating interview. And he asked... Because he keeps trying to bring Kanye back to like, "If you were president, what would you do?" Because Kanye is like, "I'm going to be president. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when," right? Like, "If I don't win this year, I'm going to for sure win in 2024." Kanye, I love your confidence. But anyway, so, Kanye answers these questions completely differently. And so, anyway. I don't want to run with that. But, my real question for you... So, you can go long on these, or we can go rapid-fire questions on them. Either way. Atlas Shrugged. Got the world on his shoulders. You feel that. How do you deal with that responsibility? Because I'm sure there's been times, I know in my own life, with my three to five little people that I'm managing, and some contractors, I'm like, "Oh my gosh! If I have to take one more thing, I'm just going to explode!" Right? Like, if we don't... So how do you, how do you deal with that pressure, and not... One of the things that I've had to learn how to do is, I don't know if anger is the right word, but deal with not taking out my frustration on somebody else. Right? Like, God bless Leah. She knows me super, super well. And like she knows the moods where it's like, "Don't ask him a question." Like, "Avoid it, and let him cool off," because if you say the wrong thing right now, I'm just going to inadvertently take it out on her. And I've had to learn how to balance that and communicate that. How do you deal with all that pressure, and still... You've got 400 people looking up to you. I know you don't talk to them everyday, but that's a lot. Russell: Yeah. That's just employees. And you have the community, and... Josh: Right. Russell: Yeah, it gets heavy. A lot. And I think it's funny, because, as you read the book, you know, Atlas Shrugged and walked away from the thing... Josh: Right. Russell: And I think for me, I don't want to walk away. You know what I mean? I don't think... That's a big thing. And I think, because the first part is, I was thinking about it, that... Because I'm a big believer that this, for me, is a calling. It's a mantle. This is what I've been called to do at this time in my life. And since, as heavy as it gets... Like, man, think about other people in a different time who had to carry a burden they didn't want to lift, right? There's tons of them. So I think about that a lot. I reached out to other people who were producers, who I know have heavy... You can ask Garrett White. Every time I'm stressing out to the max, I text Garrett, and I'm like, "Hey, man. Life's heavy. Just thinking about you." And he always sends back something about, like, "Dude, do you realize how you've changed my..." just things like that, that just... It's just like, "Okay, it's worth it. Thank you." And then, in Voxer, whenever someone voxes me something, it's like, this success story of, like, "Dude, just so you know, blah, blah, blah." And on Voxer, you can star things. So I have a whole starred menu of all the people that have told me how the fact that I'm carrying this has changed their life. So I'll listen to those, and I'll listen to four or five or six of them. And eventually, when I hear those things, it gets lighter. And so that's a big thing, for me, is just that... Dave, one of my... I'm not sure if Dave's still here or not. But Dave's one of my best friends. Josh: Is he still here? Russell: No. Josh: Dave. Russell: One of my favorite humans. Yeah. And now he's... Anyway. You know, he's carrying a lot of pressure, now, too. Dave... I don't know if you knew this... Dave is the CEO now of ClickFunnels. He's taking over a huge part of my responsibility. And he's carrying out- Josh: Oh, he's into the CEO role? Russell: Yeah. Josh: Or, is he? Or he's moving into it? Russell: He is. Officially, now, yeah. Internally. And he's... Josh: Congratulations, Dave. Russell: And, looking back now, something I should have done five years ago. He's so much better than me at... Than I am. But I see him, I see Todd, I see that people on our team who are carrying weight. And having other people that you're doing this with, besides yourself, helps a lot. So I think that's a big part of it, too, is just... I don't know. If it was just me, like that, eventually I think I'd shrug and walk away. But I know that there's a dozen other people all holding that up as well, and that helps a lot as well, because you know you're not in it alone. I always tell Dave, I'm like, "Man, if I was going to war, I would bring you. Just because I want you in the trenches with me. You know what I mean?" And knowing that I'm not in it alone helps a lot. So I think a lot of times, it's those things. When you're where, when you're doing it by yourself, that's when it gets hard. I try to not... And I think our default human thing is to isolate, and take the pressure and pain. And just for me, as an introvert, I'd rather isolate. But I try, specifically when it gets heavy, just to, like, "Okay, I can't isolate, or I'm going to just get crushed." Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I reach out, and that helps me a lot to be able to sustain stuff. Josh: Next rapid-fire question, if you will. Success takes sacrifice. So, in managing ClickFunnels, obviously you love it. But what things are you not able to do, or do you wish you were able to do more of, that you are not able to because of the role that you play in ClickFunnels? Russell: Yeah. Stuff like this. I feel bad. There's so many people who ask for podcast interviews and things like that. People that I would love to do it with, but just there's not enough time. I miss... When we were first growing ClickFunnels, and starting it, I just remember coming in in the mornings, and being like, "What should we do today?" And thinking about it, and brainstorming. I miss that part. Now you come in, and it's like, "All right, there's 8,000 things you got to do." And it's like, "Okay," and I miss those parts of it. I don't know, I miss... Not being able to turn it off, but I think... I don't know, it would be nice... I think it's Alex Charfen, I'm thinking about. Like, "You don't want to run off into the white wood." There's times where... And this is dorky. This is the cheesiest thing. Remember watching the last... Endgame? Avengers Endgame. Josh: Oh, yeah. Russell: And, at the end, when Iron Man dies, and... What's her name? Pepper Potts. When she's like, "You can rest now." I remember hearing that, and I was just like... I actually started crying. I was just like, "I feel like I want to rest sometime. I don't know how, or when, or-" I desire that. I don't know how, because there's so much stuff and so many things. And I think, I don't know, I long for that moment. Where it's just like, whatever the... Like at the end of the Bootstrap book. I don't know where or when that happens, but- Josh: Right, yeah. Russell: If there's ever a time where it's just like, "Oh. We did it." Like, it's weird, because in wrestling, there was a thing where you get your hand raised, and then you get to rest. Business, I haven't found that. Like, it's just this constant thing. Where you have victories and stuff, but you never... Again, wrestling is like, you'd cut weight a week, you'd train, you'd practice, and you'd go out there, head-to-head. You wrestle. You get a hand-raise, you go out to eat, and you relax. You sleep that weekend. Monday, you get back to work. I don't feel like, in business, there's ever been that. Like, "Ah." Josh: Do you think it exists? Russell: I don't know. I assume when people sell a business there's some of that, but most people I know that have sold a business... It's harder. Because it's like someone else is taking your thing that your identity is tied to. So that scares me too. And so I don't know. That's something, I don't know if it's like... Is it when I die that I'm like, "Ah." Like Iron Man? I don't know... I don't know. Some day. I desire that. I don't know how to get it, but that's something I'm looking at. How do you get that? How do you get that release you get, where you're just like, "Ah, I did a good job." I think Funnel Hacking Live is probably the closest to that? Josh: Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Russell: Right after it ends? But then also, sometimes... Like two years ago, and it's semi-controversial, and I got blown up for, like, three or four days. And I remember I was like, "This sucks!" Like, "I just killed myself, and now I'm defending myself for three days because of some other speaker who said something that I wish they wouldn't have, but they did, and..." And, yeah. Some of the things like that are hard, but, huh. Anyway. Josh: Are we having Funnel Hacking Live this year? Or, next year, I guess? Russell: Some version of it, yeah. We're in a contract battle with Nashville, where we've done it the last two years. I was just to go there again this year. It typically takes us nine months, for Funnel Hacking Live. Obviously, because of everything, we haven't. We're three months out from when it was supposed to be, and there's no way I can fill it in time. Plus, I don't think we were going to come do there. And so we're trying to push that contract for another year, and then doing a hybrid, something in between. So far, we haven't even got the contract, which is... Anyway. So, something will happen. And I'm dying to not announce it yet, because I don't have finality yet. But some version of Funnel Hacking Live- Josh: What? You mean you can't break something right here, live, at- Russell: I've tried my best! To- Josh: 1:00 in the morning, Eastern time? Russell: We'd love to do some kind of hybrid... Something. Essentially, because I spoke at Tony's thing, where he had the big internet… Josh: Yeah. How was that? Russell: It was really cool. And hard. Because, at first, you come out, and you're in this room, and there's faces everywhere, like, "Ah! That's amazing!" But you're speaking at an event. You shift, and you're looking at different people, which is fun. Here, if you look at people, it looks like you're talking like this. So you have to look at the camera. So, you have a million faces everywhere, and you have to look right here? And you can't- Josh: Oh my God! Russell: And everyone's doing weird things, and so it's kind of hard. Because you're like, I have to look here, or else it looks like I'm not connected to you. But there's so much happening that I want to... It was- Josh: Oh. That's crazy. Russell: It was almost... I don't know if "Dizzy" is the right word, but something that we were just like... It was different. It was hard to get used to. But, anyway, he's building a new place that's three times as big. We're just going to have a hybrid, where half is at... half's the stadium. He said something interesting. He's like, "This year is the year of virtual. Next year is the year of hybrid." So I'm trying to figure out our version of that. And I don't know what that is yet. Josh: Hybrid being part live, part... Russell: Yeah. Yeah. Because I never wanted to make Funnel Hacking Live virtual, ever. Because… it’s this thing. But I also want to make it... Yeah, anyway. So, I'm hoping. I'm hoping the next couple weeks have some finality on that contract, so we can start the next... Whatever the process looks like. So it'll be some version of 2021, for sure. Josh: Cool. Russell: Where people who want to travel will be able to travel. Josh: All right. Awesome. Two more questions. Russell: Okay. Josh: One: what is one thing that people don't know about you? What's a Russell Brunson thing that is a pretty defined part of who you are that people don't really know? Russell: I'm public about everything... Josh: Are you, though? Russell: I don't know. That's a good question. Have you learned anything by me since you've been here in our... Josh: Yeah, a couple of things. Russell: Really? Josh: Yeah. A couple of things. Yeah. More from your wife, though. Yeah. She's told... Russell: She's telling you all the good stuff. Josh: Also, your kids are fascinating. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Yeah. I talked to them for probably 10, 15 minutes. Russell: My kids are the coolest. I think my biggest fear in life is that I am not going to be the dad that they need. You know what I mean? I don't know. He's going to be like... I don't know. Being a parent's way harder than I thought I was going to be. I thought I was going to be amazing at it. I'm like, "I can influence thousands of people at once," but the person you care about and love the most? And same to my wife. I think those are my biggest fears. I don't want to mess up the family. And it's weird because, again, it's like all my super powers are like my kryptonite in a family. You know what I mean? Josh: Yeah. Russell: And so I think I struggle with that a lot of times, where it's just like, "Nah, I'm such a good communicator." I think. Communicating messages. And I struggle communicating with people I love the most. So I think that's it, I think. I am scared to death of cats and dogs. I will not touch them. Josh: Really? Russell: Yeah. I won't touch any animal. They're disgusting to me. And I'm allergic to cats, but the way it came about is, when I was in high school, the girl I was dating, she had a cat, and they went out of town. She's like, "You can watch my cat." And I was like, "Okay." So I came in, and the cat's rubbing against me, so I was petting it, because I'm like... I'd never had an animal before, right? And I'm petting it. And my eyes swole shut. For three days. Three days later, they finally opened again, and the white part was all blood-red. And I don't trust animals since then. You can watch me. My in-laws have cats. I walk in the house, and I stand there. I won't sit on the couches, because I'm like... Because I break out an allergies. If like a dog runs up to me, everyone... You'll see I've kind of turned my... Like, "Don't touch me." Anyway, I don't like animals. Unless you can eat them. So there's something people probably don't know about me. Josh: There you go! Who would've guessed, who would've guessed. All right. Last question. Final question. And I asked this to you... I think I have asked this to you before, but now we're here. We're in person. And we're going to talk. I want you to fast-forward to the end of your life, when you are on your deathbed, and I want you to... All your money, and success, and fame, and influence it's all gone. But you've influenced a lot of people. And you get to leave them with a final message that kind of defines... not what you took away from life, but like the message that you feel like you should put on to some... Pass on, for generations to come. What would you want to be defined by? What would you want that message to be, for people to remember you by? Russell: Cool... And I'm hoping... Honestly, my biggest hope. I'm hoping that when we die, we go to our maker. I'm hoping that we get a glimpse of what our life actually did. You know, like the ripple effect? Josh: Fascinating. Russell: You know It's A Wonderful Life? Josh: Yeah. Russell: When he sees what it was like, before and after? I'm hoping all of us get that experience. Because you have no idea what you're actually doing with it. But I'm sure what we're all doing is... Anyway, I'm praying that we get that moment, because that would be... Anyway. I think my message that I- Josh: That would be so cool. Russell: Yeah. Can you imagine that? Josh: Yeah. That'd be wild. Russell: Yeah. Josh: We need to do a podcast just about our faith. That'd be cool. That'll be our next one. Russell: Okay. That'd be fun. Josh: Next one, I'll fly out here for, and we'll just do it, just about- Russell: That'd be fun. Josh: Just about God, and faith. All right. Russell: That'd be fun. But I think for my message, I would leave it as, I think that... Again, just to tie back to what we talked about initially, I think a lot of us start these businesses, or start whatever we're trying to do, whatever we're called to do, you start initially out of greed, right? It's natural, man. We have these desires that make us want to do stuff, right? And I think for me, when I first got started in this business, I just thought it was to make money, and all these kind of things. And I saw, even when it started having an impact, I mean, "This is cool, this is cool." But it wasn't until... I had a coach a few years ago. She's amazing. And I remember she asked me about what I think God thinks about my business. I'm like, "Why would He care about this?" He cares about how I'm living my life, and I'm keeping to the Commandments and stuff, but why would He care about this?" She's like, "Don't you see it?" And I'm like, "See what?" She's like, "You don't see what He's... Who you've become? His hand in your life?" And it never had crossed my mind. And she started helping me understand, like, "This thing that you're doing is not just to make money. This is a calling. This is literal... This is a calling. You were called of God to do this thing, and the ripple effect, and people's lives you're changing... Even though you're helping people to start businesses, build funnels, it seems like it doesn't matter, but it does. Because it frees people, and then they can change people's lives. And the ripple effect is huge." And she helped me understand that day, in such a profound way, that just these things that we're doing, it's a literal calling from God. I think if I was on my deathbed, I would want people to know, like, when you feel that tug, or that nudge, that thing that starts you on this journey, that's not just like, "Oh, it'll be fun. Oh, I'll make some money," or whatever. It's literally God giving you something. This is your stewardship. Do something with it. See what it is. I think, if you realize that... Since I've realized that, it's been different. Now that I know that, it's like, "Okay, I'm going to run as hard as I can. Because this is not just an idea I had. This is a gift." And it's like these tests, like, "What am I going to do with this?" And then when you look at it from that lens, it's like, man, you can do and create... You have more faith in yourself, because it's not yourself, right? I get scared every time I get on stage. I got nervous before this. Like I get... "You're probably confident, because you're on the stage in front of 35,000 people." No! I freak out in front of, like, 20 people! I get so nervous. But I'm like, "I know that I can do it, because this is a calling that was given. And He's not going to give me something that I can't do." And so I think that, if I could help people understand that... I don't know the right way to articulate it, but I think if everybody understood that, how real that actually is, it'd make you run harder, make you work harder, and make you braver, and make you have more courage, more... All the things you need to get that message out. Because you were called. It is a literal calling. And you're probably not worthy of it yet? Like, when you get it, you're not worthy. Like they say, "He qualifies, so he calls," right? You're not qualified right now, but the act of you moving forward is what qualifies you, and what prepares you for the calling. And I think that, if people understood that, man, people would focus so much less on themselves and on their situation and just, like, "All right. Here's the baton. Run." Right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: You're now gonna start running. And you would do it with perfect faith, because you know it's from somebody beside yourself. And I think if people understood that and believed, it would change everything. Josh: Russell. Thank you so much, man. Russell: Yeah, man. Josh: This was so much fun. Russell: It is fun. Josh: I'm so glad we were able to make this happen. Russell: How long do we have to do... Where are we at? Josh: We're at three hours and 18 minutes. Russell: Dang. And we're still here? Josh: Three hours 20 minutes. Yeah. Russell: Dang, a lot of people still here. Josh: Yeah. I've got... Yeah. Quite a bit. Russell: Thanks for having me, man. Thanks for coming all the way out here for this. It was cool. Josh: Yeah. Of course. Yeah. And- Russell: Oh, and we have the comments now. Josh: What do you guys think of the interview? Yes? Good, bad? Thumbs up? Rate it! On a scale from 1 to 10. On a scale from 1 to 10, give us a rating. 1 to 10. Russell: "I used to think Russell was cool, but now I think he's crazy," or, "I used to think Russell was crazy, now I think he's cool." I'm good with all those things. I'm just curious. Josh: Russell, God bless you. God bless your wisdom and mission. Look at this. Thank you so much. This is amazing. Russell: Smileys are here. What's up, Smileys? Josh: Let's go, let's go. What's up, James Smiley? Great stuff. Awesome. I love it, I love it. I could do... A 1000. We got a 1000 out of 10. Russell: Dang! Josh: That's pretty darn good. Russell: It is really good. Josh: 12? 12 out of 10. Russell: Oh, so fun. Josh: Brent? what's up, man? All right, we're going to have to do this again. Sometime when we can sit down and talk about God. That one, we're really gonna have to get prepped for it. Oh, do you know Nick Robbins? Russell: Not off the top of my head. Josh: All right. He's kind of in the ClickFunnels world? He ran an agency, sold it, but still remained a partner, and then got bored, and then came back into it? Anyway. So he and I had, I think, a three-and-a-half-hour conversation about God. So, it's interesting, because he and I actually have a lot of similar beliefs, but he doesn't believe in God. So he's like, "Yeah, I think there's something out there, and it's something intelligent," or whatever. And so we had a... He uses language. And I don't, typically. And so we had all this big, long, huge debate. So, and we've gone there and said that. Russell: That's fun. Josh: Yeah. So. Russell: I think one of the most fascinating conversations I ever had was with Howard Berg, the world's fastest reader? That guy's, like, 30,000... Josh: Yeah. Oh, that's right! He came here, didn't he? Russell: Yeah. A couple of times, since we've hung out. He's read 30,000 books. I was like, "I can ask this guy any question I want." And so I asked him. I was like, "What's your opinion on God?" And I remember he told me, he said... Because, again, religion usually causes fights. Because, like, "Well, I believe-" you know, and it's so cool, because he's like, "Well, most people read one book, and then they base their belief in God on this one book." He's like, "I've read..." I can't remember what it was... "Like, 1,200 books on God, from every perspective." And he's like, "Based on that, this is what I believe." It was just so cool to see that, I think. And I feel like all of us, instead of us being like, "This is my way, this is my way." It's like, just hear... Even if you completely... I completely disagree with so many people's opinion, but I still hear it. Because, again, why do they believe that? There's something. There's a reason why they believe that. I want to understand that. And, anyway. And it's just so interesting. Josh: That's my big thing. My big thing is like... And that's one of the hardest things, for mem is figuring out... My beliefs are always changing. That's probably reason I started the podcast. I just wanted to talk to people. Right? Like, if I'm wrong... I'm so excited whenever someone comes in and is like, "You're wrong, and here's why!" And I'm like- Russell: "Sweet!" Josh: "Oh my gosh! Thank you so much! I know what I'm onto next! Yes!" Right? Where everybody else is like, "I don't want to be wrong. What are they-" I'm like, "If somebody comes in and proves my idea wrong..." Like, my ideas are pretty thought-through. And I'm a really thought-through person. I know why I believe what I believe, not just what I believe. Right? So if somebody can come along and challenge that? That's one of the things that is so attractive to me about Leah. Leah was smart. She challenged even beliefs that she maybe even agreed with. She'd play the devil's advocate, and change, and challenge it. And I'm like, "that's what I like. I want to grow and expand like that." So, anyway. Russell: Yeah. That's awesome. Josh: We'll have to come back and do that, so. All right. Russell. Thank you so much, man. Super, super appreciate it. Guys, as always. Hustle, hustle. God bless. Don't be afraid to think different. And who knows? You might just end up in a chair next to Russell Brunson. So, that'd be awesome. Guys, as always, hustle, hustle. God bless. Don't be afraid to think different. Those of us that think different are going to change the world. By using funnels! And other stuff. Russell: Yeah! Josh: I love you all. And I will see you on the next live stream episode. Take it easy, man. Russell: Bye everybody. Josh: Peace! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 02 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 5 of 5 full 367 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to the final segment of this special interview! In this episode you get to hear Russell answer all these interesting questions: Who do you look up to? What is Tony Robbins like? How do you “deal” when things get heavy? What do you... Welcome to the final segment of this special interview! In this episode you get to hear Russell answer all these interesting questions: Who do you look up to? What is Tony Robbins like? How do you “deal” when things get heavy? What do you sacrifice for success? Is there closure as an entrepreneur? What do you want to be known or remembered for? Russell and Josh chat about all this and much more in the exciting conclusion to this “Atlas Shrugged” interview series. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson, and I want to welcome you, first off, to the Marketing Secrets podcast; and, second off, to the last part of our five-part Atlas Shrugged interview series. The exciting conclusion. At this time, we'd been going for three-plus hours. I was really, really tired. If I sound like I am kind of out of it, it's because I was probably a little bit out of it. We started the interview at 8:00 or 9:00 at night, so this is probably midnight or so. The night before, I had slept three hours. Or, two nights before, it was three-and-a-half... Three hours and 12 minutes. I remember. I wear an aura ring, so I track my sleep cycle. So, the night before, I slept three hours and 12 minutes. The night before this was, like, five hours. So I was tired. I was worn out. But I still had a lot of fun with it. I think Josh is a great interviewer. And I think that we had a lot of fun talking about all this stuff. So, with that said, you guys, hope you enjoyed this interview series. And, when we come back from the theme song, you have a chance to jump right into the exciting conclusion. Part five of the Atlas Shrugged interview. Josh Forti: So, one of the things you talk about in... Well, actually, expert secrets. But I think they mention it... She kind of mentions it in this book, too... is creating belief by looking up to somebody. And, if you can't see it, if nobody else has done it, then it's hard for people to kind of imagine it and ingrain it. Like, for me, I look up at... I'm like, "Who do I want to be like? What business do I want?" I'm like, "Okay, cool." Like you and your books, I want to be like that type of bit here. And then Katie Richards is another one. Being a powerful person, just in general. Okay, like, these are the people that I look up to, and I'm like, "Okay. That's what I'm going towards." So, for you, who are those people? Like, in your life. That you look up to, and you're like, "Okay, that's it." Because I feel like, the higher you get... And, I mean, you're not all the way up the ladder, right? There's still plenty more. But you're way above where the average person is going to get to. The average person has a lot of people they can look up to. You, there's a lot less options, I feel like. Who are those people that you look up to and go, "Okay, that's who I'm trying to be more like," or, "That's where I learned my lessons from." Russell Brunson: Yeah. There's different parts of my life for different people, too. You know? Josh: Yeah. Russell: I look at the business side, I know the companies I aspire to be like. Salesforce, Shopify, HubSpot. Those are companies that are just like the next tier, but from where we are. That they've crossed the chasm, where we're still trying to figure out how to... That next tier. Right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: I think watching them has been... That's when we said we'd go to DreamForce two years in a row, just because I wanted to... And I talked about it, actually, on my podcast. Because when I was out there, it was like... And you need to see it to understand it. Because I remember, when I was wrestling, my dad, my freshman year, took us to the... I had just started wrestling. He took us to the state tournament. I saw this guy on my team win state. And I was like, "That's what I want." Exactly what it was. That'd be my goal. And you see it to do it. So I think for me, those are kind of the businesses that I look up to. People, I mean, Tony... From an influence... Like, people speaking, Tony still, to me, is like... Who's bigger than him, right? Josh: Right, right. Russell: Or better. And the fact I've had a chance to build a friendship with him is really cool, because it's been interesting to see him not on stage. You know what I mean? Like, everyone has a chance to see him on stage, and he's the best in the world on there. But then you see him offstage, and see who he really is. And it's just cool to see that, I don't know, someone who's been doing this for that long, consistently, who still cares, who's still doing this. He doesn't need money, but he still is doing events almost every day of the year, because he wants that. So I think that- Josh: He can stop. Russell: Yeah. And I get it. I have so much respect for that. So I think that's a big thing. Yeah. Just, different areas of life, there's different people. But- Josh: What's it like- Russell: I've tried harder and harder to get closer and closer to him, because I like seeing... I like understanding them, not just from the outside, but understanding from inside. Because it's just a different perspective that you don't get. You know what I mean? Josh: Yeah. What is it it like? What is Tony like? Russell: Honestly, he's like a little kid. We went to his house, and... I can't talk with details, but he had a slide in his house, and he went down the slide with us, and it just... It was really cool. And we had a chance to go with him and do the meditation thing. And the way he served us, when we were with him at his house, you can tell it's how he wishes he could serve everybody. You know? And that just is hard. Like, you saw him... He's in this room serving us, and he's crying, and you see this emotion. And you're just like, "Oh my gosh," like, "he would do this for everyone if he could." But he can't. So that's why you do these big scale things. But it's the best way he can do that. But I think, if he could, he would do that for every single human being he could. It's just really... I don't know. It's cool. There's been a lot of situations, when I've been around him, where he could have not... He could have easily, like, turned it off. You know, but it's sincere. He doesn't turn it off. You know what I mean? And I try to be that way as much as I can. And hopefully you've seen, now with me and my kids? Josh: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Russell: I try to. And obviously, there's Russell, who's a more introverted, more reserved, and then there’s Russell who’s gonna be like, "Ahh!" But it's still the same... Hopefully. I want to be growing like that. Like, I'd respect him, because he's... In every situation I've seen him, he's always been sincere. Which is not... I can't say that about most people in our industry, and our world. Josh: Yeah. For sure. Russell: Which is unfortunate, because it's just like, "You are..." I remember one time I was in an event, and I heard this guy speak. He was awesome. And he just breaks down crying in the middle of this event, in the middle of the speech. And I was like, "This guy is great." And he got offstage. And he looks at me, and he's like... He said something like, "I pulled out the fake tears again." And I was like, "What?" I remember just feeling like... Ugh. I just felt so sick. How does someone do that and not... He was all proud of it. Like, "Ha," like, "I got them with my..." I just remember feeling so... Just dirty. And I just didn't like that. I was like, "I don't want to be that way. I want to be..." I don't want people saying, like, "Oh, yeah, Russell's different here than here." I don't want people saying that. Josh: Yeah. Like, one consistent person. The same person on and off stage. Russell: Yeah. Josh: There's certain people that... You just know. You meet them, and they're just genuine all the way through. Right? Russell: Mm-hmm Josh: I'm trying to think... Like Catherine Jones, right? For example. She's awesome, right? We had dinner. I had dinner with her, and... Well, God. I had dinner with her, and some friends... Russell: "What am I allowed to say in the podcast?" Josh: Yeah. No, her and some friends, when I was in Utah last. And I've had her as a client. I've watched her speak on stage, in front of... Live. I've had dinner with her. And it's like, it is the same person. Right? Russell: So cool. Josh: And there are people like that. And they're rare. I really do think- Russell: That's what people say. Like, "You never want to meet your mentors, because they're going to disappoint you." Josh: Yeah. Russell: Because of that. Because it's like, "Oh, you put them on this pedestal, and you see them in real life, and you're like... 'Huh. Well. That's disappointing.'" And then it negates all the stuff... That's my biggest thing, is that I don't want somebody who... I gave them something, to help them, and they see me in real life, and it's like, "Oh." It negates- Josh: Yeah! Russell: All you just gave them. Which it does, right? Josh: It really does. Because it takes away the trust factor. Russell: Yeah. And so it's just like... I don't know. Because I think I was nervous meeting Tony the first time. I was like, "What if..." Josh: Yeah, no kidding. Russell: You know? And you see him multiple times, over and over and over, and you're just like, "Cool." It's just neat to see that. Josh: So, what's interesting is, one of my biggest reservations about Tony before... You, and Funnel Hacking Live, was actually the thing that warmed me up to Tony. Because I didn't really know a whole lot... I'd never experienced Tony like I have at Funnel Hacking Live, or anything like that. It's so crazy. You walk into the room when he's talking, and it's like you feel the energy shift. Russell: Nobody on earth has presence like that. Josh: It is insane. Like, everyone tells you about it, but then you don't really believe it until you experience it. And I remember, actually, it was in Orlando. The first time, when he was down there or whatever. And I remember, he came... He was in the room... I was in the room when he entered. And energy, obviously, just like when anybody walks on stage, was quite ramped up. But then he just went into his normal talking. And I remember leaving the room. And, most people, you walk in and you feel it? And I remember opening that door, and shutting it, and like... My whole body shifted. Out of this high energy state, into the low energy state. And I felt like, if I was in that room, I could literally go forever. Right? It was just this nonstop source of energy. But what was interesting about Tony is, Tony doesn't really talk about God. Which is super interesting. Like, I don't know what faith Tony is. And maybe he's talked about it in something about that. And so, for me, one of the biggest struggles that I had... Because, well, growing up, and when I first the house, and when I first got into the entrepreneurship, I, like, really wrestled with God. Right? Especially, you know, going through the death of my brother was actually, ironically, the thing that brought me back to God. But I really, really wrestled with that. And so, for Tony, it was like, he's got all this energy, and he's connecting to this higher source, and he's talking about all these things, but he never... He never ties it to anything. He never gives credit to... Well, in this story I'm telling myself at the time, he's never giving credit to this higher... thing. Like, where does that all come from? And then, the more I got to know Tony... Not personally, but through his work, and through watching his videos, and seeing him at Funnel Hacking Live... I'm like, "I don't know what it is that he believes." I've never sat down... And if I ever get to interview him, I'm absolutely asking him that question. But, whatever that is, I don't think it's possible to be incongruent. Because it's... I don't know! It's not of Earth, almost. It's like you're tapping into something that isn't... In in order to operate at that level, you can't be selfish. Like, you know what I mean? Do you sense that with him at all? Like- Russell: Yeah. And he is, I think... And I'm sure you've seen it before. You talk political, and your audience is cut in half, right? Josh Forti: Yeah. Russell: I think for him, he's traveling such a world-global thing. I mean, Tony is Christian. But it's tough because half the world he speaks to are not Christians. Josh: Right. Russell: And so he... He draws that line, because he doesn't want to alienate people. Because he's like, "I'm here to serve God, and..." Josh: Right. Russell: “God didn’t send me to serve a certain group, it’s to serve everybody.” I think... That's my guess, as to why he doesn't anchor that in as a hard thing. Because his audience is so massive. But he definitely, if you ask him, he definitely knows where it's coming from. You know what I mean? Because, wherever he talks about it, he's... You know, the first time he told me, he's like... It's funny, because I'd experienced this myself, and didn't have words to put to it. Because I come on stage, I have a plan, everything's there. I start talking, and all of the sudden, like, something comes through me? And he's like, "It never comes out the way that I plan, but it always comes out perfect." And he's like, "As long as I follow that, it always just works out perfect." Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I've had so many times where I... Again, I start talking about something, I don't know where I'm going. I'm like, "Why am I talking about this?" And then all of the sudden, it's like, "Oh, wow." And there's somebody... Like, that was the thing that- Josh: Connected it. Russell: Shifted it for them. You know what I mean? And I think the more that you tap into that, the more... Again, it comes back to what I talked about before, like, where you do that... God's giving you this thing, and if you have stewardship over it, and you use it, he'll give it to you more and more. And Tony, now, who's been doing it for 40 years... Josh: It's actually super interesting you say that. So, literally, every Tuesday, I meet with Katie. Right? And we have our one-on-one call, and we talk for an hour. And one of the topics of conversation was, I was like, "Katie..." We were actually talking about getting ready for this interview. I was like, "I don't feel nervous. At all." Right? And I'm like, "And I'm getting so many texts and DMS or whatever, like, 'Oh my gosh, are you nervous? What if you mess up?'” And, so many… So many different things, right? And I'm like, "I don't feel any of that. I feel like this is just like, 'All right, cool. I'm flying out to Russell. We're gonna hang out. It's gonna be great. We're gonna go.'" And I'm like, "So, why is everybody else telling me I should be nervous? Right? Like, why is that a thing?" One of the things that she said was like, "Being who you are, being your person, knowing yourself, and, like, doing this..." But one of the things that we talked about was some of the things that you have to accept by faith. And I was really wrestling with this idea of, like, "Am I supposed to be prepared?" Am I? Russell voxed me and was like, "This is the first interview he's ever prepared for." I'm like, "I just read the book. I don't have any notes prepared for him! I'm just gonna show up and talk, right? That's what I do." And she's like, "But that's your superpower. That-" And sometimes you have to just have faith. And she's like, "You prepare 80% of the way, and leave the 20% up to God." And she's like, "And most people are not going to understand that. And, for a lot of people, that's going to freak it out." But she's like, "How many times have you prepared something 100%, you knew every word you were going to say?" And I'm like, "Very little." She's like, "Well, think back to one of the times that you did." I'm like, "Okay," and she's like, "How'd it go? I was like, "Well, terrible! Literally. It was some of my worst presentations. The most prepared I come, the biggest it'll flop." Right? And she's like, "And the least you prepare sometimes, you just walk in confidently and you do your best, turns out amazing." Yeah. Because that's what Tony's talking about, like, "It just comes over you." It's like, if you have faith that, when you show up and become... You are the best version of yourself. You show up the most prepared you can be. And you just fully embrace that, and have faith in the rest? God, the universe, whatever you want to call it, I feel like it just works the rest of it out. You know what I mean? Russell: Understood. Yeah. That's why, before I do anything, I pray before. I prayed before this call. Or, what's it called? Before this interview, before I step on stage every single time. Because a big part of it's like... Without that, what good are your words? You know what I mean? If you're doing it with the Spirit, with God... Whatever you want to call it, you know? For me, it's the Spirit. If you're with the Spirit, then it'll touch people, in a way that you can't just by your words alone. And so I always ask that, and I look for help. And I remember, I think Steven Larson, the first time he was working for me, we did our first event in the room over here. And I remember, before I would do the events myself, he started working for me. And I was in the back here. And I was saying a prayer, and he walked in. He's like, "Oh, sorry!" He's like, "That's cool." I'm like, "What?" He's like, "You pray before you go out there." I was like, "Oh, yeah. I'm not going out there by myself!" Like, you know? I'm not that good. So, I need help, and it shows up when you... pray. Josh: All right, I have two questions that I want to ask you, before we kind of go to rapid-fire, to kind of bring this to a close. I don't know. We could probably go all night, but... Russell: You just want us to keep going all night? Or you want us to go to bed? Josh: How much longer do we go for? Are you guys liking this? Comment down below. Let us know. Give some feedback. Do you like it? Do you not like it? What are your thoughts? We've been going for about three hours. And I figured, at least, it was going to go at least this long. Russell: I guarantee there's going to be some of you guys who are like, "I agree with everything," to be like, "I agree with half," or to be like, "I don't understand what they're saying. I agree with nothing." So- That's okay. There's nothing... Again, our goal was not to motivate, was not to try to convince you guys of anything. That's not my goal. Our goal was to flesh out these ideas, and hopefully you guys come on the journey, and get some cool ideas from it, and see how perceive life. I think what's fascinating is everybody has such a different perspective on life. And so many times, when we hear somebody else's perspective, we get offended. And it's like, "What if you didn't get offended, and just listened to their perspective?" And maybe you don't listen to everything, but you're like, "Oh. I'm going to take that, and that. Those are two things that were really cool for me." Just don't pay attention to the rest of it. Right? Because I'm sure, if you paid attention to everything that we both said, you probably got offended at least 12 times. But if you're just like, "I'm just going to take the gold that's good for me, and then leave everything else on the side," you got a dozen amazing things that you can use, hopefully. So. Josh: All right. And so my next question is, who are you voting for? No, I'm just kidding. Russell: Ugh. Actually, last year, I don't... Four years ago... So, I'm a big Jack Bauer fan, and I bought "Jack Bauer for president" shirts. And then, that whole day, I was Instagramming and Facebooking, "I'm writing in Jack Bauer! I'm writing in Jack Bauer!" And I would have if he was a real human. But, anyway. Josh: That's funny. Who was I just... Oh, Leah, I was talking to her on the way, as we were driving to the airport. We were talking about Joe Rogan. And, because Joe Rogan is... It's so funny, because people... Like, Trump retweeted one of his tweets. And Joe Rogan's a big liberal, right? Like, he even said he was going to vote for Bernie, before Biden became the nominee. And so I feel like a lot of Trump supporters, are like, "Yeah, Joe Rogan's a Trump fan!" Like, Joe Rogan is not a Trump fan. That's not at all what it is. And so we were like, "Well, who do you think he's going to vote for?" And I was like, "If I was a betting man, I would bet that he votes for Kanye. That he wrote him in." Because he does this three-hour interview. And Kanye answers... If you watch the interview... I mean, I know it's three hours of your time, and you'll probably never get to it. But it is a fascinating interview. And he asked... Because he keeps trying to bring Kanye back to like, "If you were president, what would you do?" Because Kanye is like, "I'm going to be president. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when," right? Like, "If I don't win this year, I'm going to for sure win in 2024." Kanye, I love your confidence. But anyway, so, Kanye answers these questions completely differently. And so, anyway. I don't want to run with that. But, my real question for you... So, you can go long on these, or we can go rapid-fire questions on them. Either way. Atlas Shrugged. Got the world on his shoulders. You feel that. How do you deal with that responsibility? Because I'm sure there's been times, I know in my own life, with my three to five little people that I'm managing, and some contractors, I'm like, "Oh my gosh! If I have to take one more thing, I'm just going to explode!" Right? Like, if we don't... So how do you, how do you deal with that pressure, and not... One of the things that I've had to learn how to do is, I don't know if anger is the right word, but deal with not taking out my frustration on somebody else. Right? Like, God bless Leah. She knows me super, super well. And like she knows the moods where it's like, "Don't ask him a question." Like, "Avoid it, and let him cool off," because if you say the wrong thing right now, I'm just going to inadvertently take it out on her. And I've had to learn how to balance that and communicate that. How do you deal with all that pressure, and still... You've got 400 people looking up to you. I know you don't talk to them everyday, but that's a lot. Russell: Yeah. That's just employees. And you have the community, and... Josh: Right. Russell: Yeah, it gets heavy. A lot. And I think it's funny, because, as you read the book, you know, Atlas Shrugged and walked away from the thing... Josh: Right. Russell: And I think for me, I don't want to walk away. You know what I mean? I don't think... That's a big thing. And I think, because the first part is, I was thinking about it, that... Because I'm a big believer that this, for me, is a calling. It's a mantle. This is what I've been called to do at this time in my life. And since, as heavy as it gets... Like, man, think about other people in a different time who had to carry a burden they didn't want to lift, right? There's tons of them. So I think about that a lot. I reached out to other people who were producers, who I know have heavy... You can ask Garrett White. Every time I'm stressing out to the max, I text Garrett, and I'm like, "Hey, man. Life's heavy. Just thinking about you." And he always sends back something about, like, "Dude, do you realize how you've changed my..." just things like that, that just... It's just like, "Okay, it's worth it. Thank you." And then, in Voxer, whenever someone voxes me something, it's like, this success story of, like, "Dude, just so you know, blah, blah, blah." And on Voxer, you can star things. So I have a whole starred menu of all the people that have told me how the fact that I'm carrying this has changed their life. So I'll listen to those, and I'll listen to four or five or six of them. And eventually, when I hear those things, it gets lighter. And so that's a big thing, for me, is just that... Dave, one of my... I'm not sure if Dave's still here or not. But Dave's one of my best friends. Josh: Is he still here? Russell: No. Josh: Dave. Russell: One of my favorite humans. Yeah. And now he's... Anyway. You know, he's carrying a lot of pressure, now, too. Dave... I don't know if you knew this... Dave is the CEO now of ClickFunnels. He's taking over a huge part of my responsibility. And he's carrying out- Josh: Oh, he's into the CEO role? Russell: Yeah. Josh: Or, is he? Or he's moving into it? Russell: He is. Officially, now, yeah. Internally. And he's... Josh: Congratulations, Dave. Russell: And, looking back now, something I should have done five years ago. He's so much better than me at... Than I am. But I see him, I see Todd, I see that people on our team who are carrying weight. And having other people that you're doing this with, besides yourself, helps a lot. So I think that's a big part of it, too, is just... I don't know. If it was just me, like that, eventually I think I'd shrug and walk away. But I know that there's a dozen other people all holding that up as well, and that helps a lot as well, because you know you're not in it alone. I always tell Dave, I'm like, "Man, if I was going to war, I would bring you. Just because I want you in the trenches with me. You know what I mean?" And knowing that I'm not in it alone helps a lot. So I think a lot of times, it's those things. When you're where, when you're doing it by yourself, that's when it gets hard. I try to not... And I think our default human thing is to isolate, and take the pressure and pain. And just for me, as an introvert, I'd rather isolate. But I try, specifically when it gets heavy, just to, like, "Okay, I can't isolate, or I'm going to just get crushed." Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I reach out, and that helps me a lot to be able to sustain stuff. Josh: Next rapid-fire question, if you will. Success takes sacrifice. So, in managing ClickFunnels, obviously you love it. But what things are you not able to do, or do you wish you were able to do more of, that you are not able to because of the role that you play in ClickFunnels? Russell: Yeah. Stuff like this. I feel bad. There's so many people who ask for podcast interviews and things like that. People that I would love to do it with, but just there's not enough time. I miss... When we were first growing ClickFunnels, and starting it, I just remember coming in in the mornings, and being like, "What should we do today?" And thinking about it, and brainstorming. I miss that part. Now you come in, and it's like, "All right, there's 8,000 things you got to do." And it's like, "Okay," and I miss those parts of it. I don't know, I miss... Not being able to turn it off, but I think... I don't know, it would be nice... I think it's Alex Charfen, I'm thinking about. Like, "You don't want to run off into the white wood." There's times where... And this is dorky. This is the cheesiest thing. Remember watching the last... Endgame? Avengers Endgame. Josh: Oh, yeah. Russell: And, at the end, when Iron Man dies, and... What's her name? Pepper Potts. When she's like, "You can rest now." I remember hearing that, and I was just like... I actually started crying. I was just like, "I feel like I want to rest sometime. I don't know how, or when, or-" I desire that. I don't know how, because there's so much stuff and so many things. And I think, I don't know, I long for that moment. Where it's just like, whatever the... Like at the end of the Bootstrap book. I don't know where or when that happens, but- Josh: Right, yeah. Russell: If there's ever a time where it's just like, "Oh. We did it." Like, it's weird, because in wrestling, there was a thing where you get your hand raised, and then you get to rest. Business, I haven't found that. Like, it's just this constant thing. Where you have victories and stuff, but you never... Again, wrestling is like, you'd cut weight a week, you'd train, you'd practice, and you'd go out there, head-to-head. You wrestle. You get a hand-raise, you go out to eat, and you relax. You sleep that weekend. Monday, you get back to work. I don't feel like, in business, there's ever been that. Like, "Ah." Josh: Do you think it exists? Russell: I don't know. I assume when people sell a business there's some of that, but most people I know that have sold a business... It's harder. Because it's like someone else is taking your thing that your identity is tied to. So that scares me too. And so I don't know. That's something, I don't know if it's like... Is it when I die that I'm like, "Ah." Like Iron Man? I don't know... I don't know. Some day. I desire that. I don't know how to get it, but that's something I'm looking at. How do you get that? How do you get that release you get, where you're just like, "Ah, I did a good job." I think Funnel Hacking Live is probably the closest to that? Josh: Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Russell: Right after it ends? But then also, sometimes... Like two years ago, and it's semi-controversial, and I got blown up for, like, three or four days. And I remember I was like, "This sucks!" Like, "I just killed myself, and now I'm defending myself for three days because of some other speaker who said something that I wish they wouldn't have, but they did, and..." And, yeah. Some of the things like that are hard, but, huh. Anyway. Josh: Are we having Funnel Hacking Live this year? Or, next year, I guess? Russell: Some version of it, yeah. We're in a contract battle with Nashville, where we've done it the last two years. I was just to go there again this year. It typically takes us nine months, for Funnel Hacking Live. Obviously, because of everything, we haven't. We're three months out from when it was supposed to be, and there's no way I can fill it in time. Plus, I don't think we were going to come do there. And so we're trying to push that contract for another year, and then doing a hybrid, something in between. So far, we haven't even got the contract, which is... Anyway. So, something will happen. And I'm dying to not announce it yet, because I don't have finality yet. But some version of Funnel Hacking Live- Josh: What? You mean you can't break something right here, live, at- Russell: I've tried my best! To- Josh: 1:00 in the morning, Eastern time? Russell: We'd love to do some kind of hybrid... Something. Essentially, because I spoke at Tony's thing, where he had the big internet… Josh: Yeah. How was that? Russell: It was really cool. And hard. Because, at first, you come out, and you're in this room, and there's faces everywhere, like, "Ah! That's amazing!" But you're speaking at an event. You shift, and you're looking at different people, which is fun. Here, if you look at people, it looks like you're talking like this. So you have to look at the camera. So, you have a million faces everywhere, and you have to look right here? And you can't- Josh: Oh my God! Russell: And everyone's doing weird things, and so it's kind of hard. Because you're like, I have to look here, or else it looks like I'm not connected to you. But there's so much happening that I want to... It was- Josh: Oh. That's crazy. Russell: It was almost... I don't know if "Dizzy" is the right word, but something that we were just like... It was different. It was hard to get used to. But, anyway, he's building a new place that's three times as big. We're just going to have a hybrid, where half is at... half's the stadium. He said something interesting. He's like, "This year is the year of virtual. Next year is the year of hybrid." So I'm trying to figure out our version of that. And I don't know what that is yet. Josh: Hybrid being part live, part... Russell: Yeah. Yeah. Because I never wanted to make Funnel Hacking Live virtual, ever. Because… it’s this thing. But I also want to make it... Yeah, anyway. So, I'm hoping. I'm hoping the next couple weeks have some finality on that contract, so we can start the next... Whatever the process looks like. So it'll be some version of 2021, for sure. Josh: Cool. Russell: Where people who want to travel will be able to travel. Josh: All right. Awesome. Two more questions. Russell: Okay. Josh: One: what is one thing that people don't know about you? What's a Russell Brunson thing that is a pretty defined part of who you are that people don't really know? Russell: I'm public about everything... Josh: Are you, though? Russell: I don't know. That's a good question. Have you learned anything by me since you've been here in our... Josh: Yeah, a couple of things. Russell: Really? Josh: Yeah. A couple of things. Yeah. More from your wife, though. Yeah. She's told... Russell: She's telling you all the good stuff. Josh: Also, your kids are fascinating. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Yeah. I talked to them for probably 10, 15 minutes. Russell: My kids are the coolest. I think my biggest fear in life is that I am not going to be the dad that they need. You know what I mean? I don't know. He's going to be like... I don't know. Being a parent's way harder than I thought I was going to be. I thought I was going to be amazing at it. I'm like, "I can influence thousands of people at once," but the person you care about and love the most? And same to my wife. I think those are my biggest fears. I don't want to mess up the family. And it's weird because, again, it's like all my super powers are like my kryptonite in a family. You know what I mean? Josh: Yeah. Russell: And so I think I struggle with that a lot of times, where it's just like, "Nah, I'm such a good communicator." I think. Communicating messages. And I struggle communicating with people I love the most. So I think that's it, I think. I am scared to death of cats and dogs. I will not touch them. Josh: Really? Russell: Yeah. I won't touch any animal. They're disgusting to me. And I'm allergic to cats, but the way it came about is, when I was in high school, the girl I was dating, she had a cat, and they went out of town. She's like, "You can watch my cat." And I was like, "Okay." So I came in, and the cat's rubbing against me, so I was petting it, because I'm like... I'd never had an animal before, right? And I'm petting it. And my eyes swole shut. For three days. Three days later, they finally opened again, and the white part was all blood-red. And I don't trust animals since then. You can watch me. My in-laws have cats. I walk in the house, and I stand there. I won't sit on the couches, because I'm like... Because I break out an allergies. If like a dog runs up to me, everyone... You'll see I've kind of turned my... Like, "Don't touch me." Anyway, I don't like animals. Unless you can eat them. So there's something people probably don't know about me. Josh: There you go! Who would've guessed, who would've guessed. All right. Last question. Final question. And I asked this to you... I think I have asked this to you before, but now we're here. We're in person. And we're going to talk. I want you to fast-forward to the end of your life, when you are on your deathbed, and I want you to... All your money, and success, and fame, and influence it's all gone. But you've influenced a lot of people. And you get to leave them with a final message that kind of defines... not what you took away from life, but like the message that you feel like you should put on to some... Pass on, for generations to come. What would you want to be defined by? What would you want that message to be, for people to remember you by? Russell: Cool... And I'm hoping... Honestly, my biggest hope. I'm hoping that when we die, we go to our maker. I'm hoping that we get a glimpse of what our life actually did. You know, like the ripple effect? Josh: Fascinating. Russell: You know It's A Wonderful Life? Josh: Yeah. Russell: When he sees what it was like, before and after? I'm hoping all of us get that experience. Because you have no idea what you're actually doing with it. But I'm sure what we're all doing is... Anyway, I'm praying that we get that moment, because that would be... Anyway. I think my message that I- Josh: That would be so cool. Russell: Yeah. Can you imagine that? Josh: Yeah. That'd be wild. Russell: Yeah. Josh: We need to do a podcast just about our faith. That'd be cool. That'll be our next one. Russell: Okay. That'd be fun. Josh: Next one, I'll fly out here for, and we'll just do it, just about- Russell: That'd be fun. Josh: Just about God, and faith. All right. Russell: That'd be fun. But I think for my message, I would leave it as, I think that... Again, just to tie back to what we talked about initially, I think a lot of us start these businesses, or start whatever we're trying to do, whatever we're called to do, you start initially out of greed, right? It's natural, man. We have these desires that make us want to do stuff, right? And I think for me, when I first got started in this business, I just thought it was to make money, and all these kind of things. And I saw, even when it started having an impact, I mean, "This is cool, this is cool." But it wasn't until... I had a coach a few years ago. She's amazing. And I remember she asked me about what I think God thinks about my business. I'm like, "Why would He care about this?" He cares about how I'm living my life, and I'm keeping to the Commandments and stuff, but why would He care about this?" She's like, "Don't you see it?" And I'm like, "See what?" She's like, "You don't see what He's... Who you've become? His hand in your life?" And it never had crossed my mind. And she started helping me understand, like, "This thing that you're doing is not just to make money. This is a calling. This is literal... This is a calling. You were called of God to do this thing, and the ripple effect, and people's lives you're changing... Even though you're helping people to start businesses, build funnels, it seems like it doesn't matter, but it does. Because it frees people, and then they can change people's lives. And the ripple effect is huge." And she helped me understand that day, in such a profound way, that just these things that we're doing, it's a literal calling from God. I think if I was on my deathbed, I would want people to know, like, when you feel that tug, or that nudge, that thing that starts you on this journey, that's not just like, "Oh, it'll be fun. Oh, I'll make some money," or whatever. It's literally God giving you something. This is your stewardship. Do something with it. See what it is. I think, if you realize that... Since I've realized that, it's been different. Now that I know that, it's like, "Okay, I'm going to run as hard as I can. Because this is not just an idea I had. This is a gift." And it's like these tests, like, "What am I going to do with this?" And then when you look at it from that lens, it's like, man, you can do and create... You have more faith in yourself, because it's not yourself, right? I get scared every time I get on stage. I got nervous before this. Like I get... "You're probably confident, because you're on the stage in front of 35,000 people." No! I freak out in front of, like, 20 people! I get so nervous. But I'm like, "I know that I can do it, because this is a calling that was given. And He's not going to give me something that I can't do." And so I think that, if I could help people understand that... I don't know the right way to articulate it, but I think if everybody understood that, how real that actually is, it'd make you run harder, make you work harder, and make you braver, and make you have more courage, more... All the things you need to get that message out. Because you were called. It is a literal calling. And you're probably not worthy of it yet? Like, when you get it, you're not worthy. Like they say, "He qualifies, so he calls," right? You're not qualified right now, but the act of you moving forward is what qualifies you, and what prepares you for the calling. And I think that, if people understood that, man, people would focus so much less on themselves and on their situation and just, like, "All right. Here's the baton. Run." Right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: You're now gonna start running. And you would do it with perfect faith, because you know it's from somebody beside yourself. And I think if people understood that and believed, it would change everything. Josh: Russell. Thank you so much, man. Russell: Yeah, man. Josh: This was so much fun. Russell: It is fun. Josh: I'm so glad we were able to make this happen. Russell: How long do we have to do... Where are we at? Josh: We're at three hours and 18 minutes. Russell: Dang. And we're still here? Josh: Three hours 20 minutes. Yeah. Russell: Dang, a lot of people still here. Josh: Yeah. I've got... Yeah. Quite a bit. Russell: Thanks for having me, man. Thanks for coming all the way out here for this. It was cool. Josh: Yeah. Of course. Yeah. And- Russell: Oh, and we have the comments now. Josh: What do you guys think of the interview? Yes? Good, bad? Thumbs up? Rate it! On a scale from 1 to 10. On a scale from 1 to 10, give us a rating. 1 to 10. Russell: "I used to think Russell was cool, but now I think he's crazy," or, "I used to think Russell was crazy, now I think he's cool." I'm good with all those things. I'm just curious. Josh: Russell, God bless you. God bless your wisdom and mission. Look at this. Thank you so much. This is amazing. Russell: Smileys are here. What's up, Smileys? Josh: Let's go, let's go. What's up, James Smiley? Great stuff. Awesome. I love it, I love it. I could do... A 1000. We got a 1000 out of 10. Russell: Dang! Josh: That's pretty darn good. Russell: It is really good. Josh: 12? 12 out of 10. Russell: Oh, so fun. Josh: Brent? what's up, man? All right, we're going to have to do this again. Sometime when we can sit down and talk about God. That one, we're really gonna have to get prepped for it. Oh, do you know Nick Robbins? Russell: Not off the top of my head. Josh: All right. He's kind of in the ClickFunnels world? He ran an agency, sold it, but still remained a partner, and then got bored, and then came back into it? Anyway. So he and I had, I think, a three-and-a-half-hour conversation about God. So, it's interesting, because he and I actually have a lot of similar beliefs, but he doesn't believe in God. So he's like, "Yeah, I think there's something out there, and it's something intelligent," or whatever. And so we had a... He uses language. And I don't, typically. And so we had all this big, long, huge debate. So, and we've gone there and said that. Russell: That's fun. Josh: Yeah. So. Russell: I think one of the most fascinating conversations I ever had was with Howard Berg, the world's fastest reader? That guy's, like, 30,000... Josh: Yeah. Oh, that's right! He came here, didn't he? Russell: Yeah. A couple of times, since we've hung out. He's read 30,000 books. I was like, "I can ask this guy any question I want." And so I asked him. I was like, "What's your opinion on God?" And I remember he told me, he said... Because, again, religion usually causes fights. Because, like, "Well, I believe-" you know, and it's so cool, because he's like, "Well, most people read one book, and then they base their belief in God on this one book." He's like, "I've read..." I can't remember what it was... "Like, 1,200 books on God, from every perspective." And he's like, "Based on that, this is what I believe." It was just so cool to see that, I think. And I feel like all of us, instead of us being like, "This is my way, this is my way." It's like, just hear... Even if you completely... I completely disagree with so many people's opinion, but I still hear it. Because, again, why do they believe that? There's something. There's a reason why they believe that. I want to understand that. And, anyway. And it's just so interesting. Josh: That's my big thing. My big thing is like... And that's one of the hardest things, for mem is figuring out... My beliefs are always changing. That's probably reason I started the podcast. I just wanted to talk to people. Right? Like, if I'm wrong... I'm so excited whenever someone comes in and is like, "You're wrong, and here's why!" And I'm like- Russell: "Sweet!" Josh: "Oh my gosh! Thank you so much! I know what I'm onto next! Yes!" Right? Where everybody else is like, "I don't want to be wrong. What are they-" I'm like, "If somebody comes in and proves my idea wrong..." Like, my ideas are pretty thought-through. And I'm a really thought-through person. I know why I believe what I believe, not just what I believe. Right? So if somebody can come along and challenge that? That's one of the things that is so attractive to me about Leah. Leah was smart. She challenged even beliefs that she maybe even agreed with. She'd play the devil's advocate, and change, and challenge it. And I'm like, "that's what I like. I want to grow and expand like that." So, anyway. Russell: Yeah. That's awesome. Josh: We'll have to come back and do that, so. All right. Russell. Thank you so much, man. Super, super appreciate it. Guys, as always. Hustle, hustle. God bless. Don't be afraid to think different. And who knows? You might just end up in a chair next to Russell Brunson. So, that'd be awesome. Guys, as always, hustle, hustle. God bless. Don't be afraid to think different. Those of us that think different are going to change the world. By using funnels! And other stuff. Russell: Yeah! Josh: I love you all. And I will see you on the next live stream episode. Take it easy, man. Russell: Bye everybody. Josh: Peace! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome to the final segment of this special interview! In this episode you get to hear Russell answer all these interesting questions:

  • Who do you look up to?
  • What is Tony Robbins like?
  • How do you “deal” when things get heavy?
  • What do you sacrifice for success?
  • Is there closure as an entrepreneur?
  • What do you want to be known or remembered for?

Russell and Josh chat about all this and much more in the exciting conclusion to this “Atlas Shrugged” interview series.

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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson, and I want to welcome you, first off, to the Marketing Secrets podcast; and, second off, to the last part of our five-part Atlas Shrugged interview series. The exciting conclusion. At this time, we'd been going for three-plus hours. I was really, really tired. If I sound like I am kind of out of it, it's because I was probably a little bit out of it. We started the interview at 8:00 or 9:00 at night, so this is probably midnight or so. The night before, I had slept three hours. Or, two nights before, it was three-and-a-half...

Three hours and 12 minutes. I remember. I wear an aura ring, so I track my sleep cycle. So, the night before, I slept three hours and 12 minutes. The night before this was, like, five hours. So I was tired. I was worn out. But I still had a lot of fun with it. I think Josh is a great interviewer. And I think that we had a lot of fun talking about all this stuff. So, with that said, you guys, hope you enjoyed this interview series. And, when we come back from the theme song, you have a chance to jump right into the exciting conclusion. Part five of the Atlas Shrugged interview.

Josh Forti:

So, one of the things you talk about in... Well, actually, expert secrets. But I think they mention it... She kind of mentions it in this book, too... is creating belief by looking up to somebody. And, if you can't see it, if nobody else has done it, then it's hard for people to kind of imagine it and ingrain it. Like, for me, I look up at... I'm like, "Who do I want to be like? What business do I want?" I'm like, "Okay, cool." Like you and your books, I want to be like that type of bit here. And then Katie Richards is another one. Being a powerful person, just in general. Okay, like, these are the people that I look up to, and I'm like, "Okay. That's what I'm going towards."

So, for you, who are those people? Like, in your life. That you look up to, and you're like, "Okay, that's it." Because I feel like, the higher you get... And, I mean, you're not all the way up the ladder, right? There's still plenty more. But you're way above where the average person is going to get to. The average person has a lot of people they can look up to. You, there's a lot less options, I feel like. Who are those people that you look up to and go, "Okay, that's who I'm trying to be more like," or, "That's where I learned my lessons from."

Russell Brunson:

Yeah. There's different parts of my life for different people, too. You know?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

I look at the business side, I know the companies I aspire to be like. Salesforce, Shopify, HubSpot. Those are companies that are just like the next tier, but from where we are. That they've crossed the chasm, where we're still trying to figure out how to... That next tier. Right?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

I think watching them has been... That's when we said we'd go to DreamForce two years in a row, just because I wanted to... And I talked about it, actually, on my podcast. Because when I was out there, it was like... And you need to see it to understand it. Because I remember, when I was wrestling, my dad, my freshman year, took us to the... I had just started wrestling. He took us to the state tournament. I saw this guy on my team win state. And I was like, "That's what I want." Exactly what it was. That'd be my goal. And you see it to do it. So I think for me, those are kind of the businesses that I look up to. People, I mean, Tony... From an influence... Like, people speaking, Tony still, to me, is like... Who's bigger than him, right?

Josh:

Right, right.

Russell:

Or better. And the fact I've had a chance to build a friendship with him is really cool, because it's been interesting to see him not on stage. You know what I mean? Like, everyone has a chance to see him on stage, and he's the best in the world on there. But then you see him offstage, and see who he really is. And it's just cool to see that, I don't know, someone who's been doing this for that long, consistently, who still cares, who's still doing this. He doesn't need money, but he still is doing events almost every day of the year, because he wants that. So I think that-

Josh:

He can stop.

Russell:

Yeah. And I get it. I have so much respect for that. So I think that's a big thing. Yeah. Just, different areas of life, there's different people. But-

Josh:

What's it like-

Russell:

I've tried harder and harder to get closer and closer to him, because I like seeing... I like understanding them, not just from the outside, but understanding from inside. Because it's just a different perspective that you don't get. You know what I mean?

Josh:

Yeah. What is it it like? What is Tony like?

Russell:

Honestly, he's like a little kid. We went to his house, and... I can't talk with details, but he had a slide in his house, and he went down the slide with us, and it just... It was really cool. And we had a chance to go with him and do the meditation thing. And the way he served us, when we were with him at his house, you can tell it's how he wishes he could serve everybody. You know? And that just is hard. Like, you saw him... He's in this room serving us, and he's crying, and you see this emotion. And you're just like, "Oh my gosh," like, "he would do this for everyone if he could." But he can't.

So that's why you do these big scale things. But it's the best way he can do that. But I think, if he could, he would do that for every single human being he could. It's just really... I don't know. It's cool. There's been a lot of situations, when I've been around him, where he could have not... He could have easily, like, turned it off. You know, but it's sincere. He doesn't turn it off. You know what I mean? And I try to be that way as much as I can. And hopefully you've seen, now with me and my kids?

Josh:

Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Russell:

I try to. And obviously, there's Russell, who's a more introverted, more reserved, and then there’s Russell who’s gonna be like, "Ahh!" But it's still the same... Hopefully. I want to be growing like that. Like, I'd respect him, because he's... In every situation I've seen him, he's always been sincere. Which is not... I can't say that about most people in our industry, and our world.

Josh:

Yeah. For sure.

Russell:

Which is unfortunate, because it's just like, "You are..." I remember one time I was in an event, and I heard this guy speak. He was awesome. And he just breaks down crying in the middle of this event, in the middle of the speech. And I was like, "This guy is great." And he got offstage. And he looks at me, and he's like... He said something like, "I pulled out the fake tears again." And I was like, "What?" I remember just feeling like... Ugh. I just felt so sick. How does someone do that and not... He was all proud of it. Like, "Ha," like, "I got them with my..." I just remember feeling so... Just dirty. And I just didn't like that. I was like, "I don't want to be that way. I want to be..." I don't want people saying, like, "Oh, yeah, Russell's different here than here." I don't want people saying that.

Josh:

Yeah. Like, one consistent person. The same person on and off stage.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

There's certain people that... You just know. You meet them, and they're just genuine all the way through. Right?

Russell:

Mm-hmm

Josh:

I'm trying to think... Like Catherine Jones, right? For example. She's awesome, right? We had dinner. I had dinner with her, and... Well, God. I had dinner with her, and some friends...

Russell:

"What am I allowed to say in the podcast?"

Josh:

Yeah. No, her and some friends, when I was in Utah last. And I've had her as a client. I've watched her speak on stage, in front of... Live. I've had dinner with her. And it's like, it is the same person. Right?

Russell:

So cool.

Josh:

And there are people like that. And they're rare. I really do think-

Russell:

That's what people say. Like, "You never want to meet your mentors, because they're going to disappoint you."

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

Because of that. Because it's like, "Oh, you put them on this pedestal, and you see them in real life, and you're like... 'Huh. Well. That's disappointing.'" And then it negates all the stuff... That's my biggest thing, is that I don't want somebody who... I gave them something, to help them, and they see me in real life, and it's like, "Oh." It negates-

Josh:

Yeah!

Russell:

All you just gave them. Which it does, right?

Josh:

It really does. Because it takes away the trust factor.

Russell:

Yeah. And so it's just like... I don't know. Because I think I was nervous meeting Tony the first time. I was like, "What if..."

Josh:

Yeah, no kidding.

Russell:

You know? And you see him multiple times, over and over and over, and you're just like, "Cool." It's just neat to see that.

Josh:

So, what's interesting is, one of my biggest reservations about Tony before... You, and Funnel Hacking Live, was actually the thing that warmed me up to Tony. Because I didn't really know a whole lot... I'd never experienced Tony like I have at Funnel Hacking Live, or anything like that. It's so crazy. You walk into the room when he's talking, and it's like you feel the energy shift.

Russell:

Nobody on earth has presence like that.

Josh:

It is insane. Like, everyone tells you about it, but then you don't really believe it until you experience it. And I remember, actually, it was in Orlando. The first time, when he was down there or whatever. And I remember, he came... He was in the room... I was in the room when he entered. And energy, obviously, just like when anybody walks on stage, was quite ramped up. But then he just went into his normal talking. And I remember leaving the room. And, most people, you walk in and you feel it? And I remember opening that door, and shutting it, and like... My whole body shifted. Out of this high energy state, into the low energy state. And I felt like, if I was in that room, I could literally go forever. Right? It was just this nonstop source of energy.

But what was interesting about Tony is, Tony doesn't really talk about God. Which is super interesting. Like, I don't know what faith Tony is. And maybe he's talked about it in something about that. And so, for me, one of the biggest struggles that I had... Because, well, growing up, and when I first the house, and when I first got into the entrepreneurship, I, like, really wrestled with God. Right? Especially, you know, going through the death of my brother was actually, ironically, the thing that brought me back to God. But I really, really wrestled with that. And so, for Tony, it was like, he's got all this energy, and he's connecting to this higher source, and he's talking about all these things, but he never... He never ties it to anything. He never gives credit to...

Well, in this story I'm telling myself at the time, he's never giving credit to this higher... thing. Like, where does that all come from? And then, the more I got to know Tony... Not personally, but through his work, and through watching his videos, and seeing him at Funnel Hacking Live... I'm like, "I don't know what it is that he believes." I've never sat down... And if I ever get to interview him, I'm absolutely asking him that question. But, whatever that is, I don't think it's possible to be incongruent. Because it's... I don't know! It's not of Earth, almost. It's like you're tapping into something that isn't... In in order to operate at that level, you can't be selfish. Like, you know what I mean? Do you sense that with him at all? Like-

Russell:

Yeah. And he is, I think... And I'm sure you've seen it before. You talk political, and your audience is cut in half, right?

Josh Forti:

Yeah.

Russell:

I think for him, he's traveling such a world-global thing. I mean, Tony is Christian. But it's tough because half the world he speaks to are not Christians.

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

And so he... He draws that line, because he doesn't want to alienate people. Because he's like, "I'm here to serve God, and..."

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

“God didn’t send me to serve a certain group, it’s to serve everybody.” I think... That's my guess, as to why he doesn't anchor that in as a hard thing. Because his audience is so massive. But he definitely, if you ask him, he definitely knows where it's coming from. You know what I mean? Because, wherever he talks about it, he's... You know, the first time he told me, he's like... It's funny, because I'd experienced this myself, and didn't have words to put to it. Because I come on stage, I have a plan, everything's there. I start talking, and all of the sudden, like, something comes through me? And he's like, "It never comes out the way that I plan, but it always comes out perfect." And he's like, "As long as I follow that, it always just works out perfect."

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And I've had so many times where I... Again, I start talking about something, I don't know where I'm going. I'm like, "Why am I talking about this?" And then all of the sudden, it's like, "Oh, wow." And there's somebody... Like, that was the thing that-

Josh:

Connected it.

Russell:

Shifted it for them. You know what I mean? And I think the more that you tap into that, the more... Again, it comes back to what I talked about before, like, where you do that... God's giving you this thing, and if you have stewardship over it, and you use it, he'll give it to you more and more. And Tony, now, who's been doing it for 40 years...

Josh:

It's actually super interesting you say that. So, literally, every Tuesday, I meet with Katie. Right? And we have our one-on-one call, and we talk for an hour. And one of the topics of conversation was, I was like, "Katie..." We were actually talking about getting ready for this interview. I was like, "I don't feel nervous. At all." Right? And I'm like, "And I'm getting so many texts and DMS or whatever, like, 'Oh my gosh, are you nervous? What if you mess up?'” And, so many…

So many different things, right? And I'm like, "I don't feel any of that. I feel like this is just like, 'All right, cool. I'm flying out to Russell. We're gonna hang out. It's gonna be great. We're gonna go.'" And I'm like, "So, why is everybody else telling me I should be nervous? Right? Like, why is that a thing?" One of the things that she said was like, "Being who you are, being your person, knowing yourself, and, like, doing this..." But one of the things that we talked about was some of the things that you have to accept by faith.

And I was really wrestling with this idea of, like, "Am I supposed to be prepared?" Am I? Russell voxed me and was like, "This is the first interview he's ever prepared for." I'm like, "I just read the book. I don't have any notes prepared for him! I'm just gonna show up and talk, right? That's what I do." And she's like, "But that's your superpower. That-" And sometimes you have to just have faith. And she's like, "You prepare 80% of the way, and leave the 20% up to God." And she's like, "And most people are not going to understand that. And, for a lot of people, that's going to freak it out."

But she's like, "How many times have you prepared something 100%, you knew every word you were going to say?" And I'm like, "Very little." She's like, "Well, think back to one of the times that you did." I'm like, "Okay," and she's like, "How'd it go? I was like, "Well, terrible! Literally. It was some of my worst presentations. The most prepared I come, the biggest it'll flop." Right? And she's like, "And the least you prepare sometimes, you just walk in confidently and you do your best, turns out amazing."

Yeah. Because that's what Tony's talking about, like, "It just comes over you." It's like, if you have faith that, when you show up and become... You are the best version of yourself. You show up the most prepared you can be. And you just fully embrace that, and have faith in the rest? God, the universe, whatever you want to call it, I feel like it just works the rest of it out. You know what I mean?

Russell:

Understood. Yeah. That's why, before I do anything, I pray before. I prayed before this call. Or, what's it called? Before this interview, before I step on stage every single time. Because a big part of it's like... Without that, what good are your words? You know what I mean? If you're doing it with the Spirit, with God... Whatever you want to call it, you know? For me, it's the Spirit. If you're with the Spirit, then it'll touch people, in a way that you can't just by your words alone. And so I always ask that, and I look for help.

And I remember, I think Steven Larson, the first time he was working for me, we did our first event in the room over here. And I remember, before I would do the events myself, he started working for me. And I was in the back here. And I was saying a prayer, and he walked in. He's like, "Oh, sorry!" He's like, "That's cool." I'm like, "What?" He's like, "You pray before you go out there." I was like, "Oh, yeah. I'm not going out there by myself!" Like, you know? I'm not that good. So, I need help, and it shows up when you... pray.

Josh:

All right, I have two questions that I want to ask you, before we kind of go to rapid-fire, to kind of bring this to a close. I don't know. We could probably go all night, but...

Russell:

You just want us to keep going all night? Or you want us to go to bed?

Josh:

How much longer do we go for? Are you guys liking this?

Comment down below. Let us know. Give some feedback. Do you like it? Do you not like it? What are your thoughts? We've been going for about three hours. And I figured, at least, it was going to go at least this long.

Russell:

I guarantee there's going to be some of you guys who are like, "I agree with everything," to be like, "I agree with half," or to be like, "I don't understand what they're saying. I agree with nothing." So-

That's okay. There's nothing... Again, our goal was not to motivate, was not to try to convince you guys of anything. That's not my goal. Our goal was to flesh out these ideas, and hopefully you guys come on the journey, and get some cool ideas from it, and see how perceive life. I think what's fascinating is everybody has such a different perspective on life. And so many times, when we hear somebody else's perspective, we get offended. And it's like, "What if you didn't get offended, and just listened to their perspective?" And maybe you don't listen to everything, but you're like, "Oh. I'm going to take that, and that. Those are two things that were really cool for me." Just don't pay attention to the rest of it. Right? Because I'm sure, if you paid attention to everything that we both said, you probably got offended at least 12 times. But if you're just like, "I'm just going to take the gold that's good for me, and then leave everything else on the side," you got a dozen amazing things that you can use, hopefully. So.

Josh:

All right. And so my next question is, who are you voting for? No, I'm just kidding.

Russell:

Ugh. Actually, last year, I don't... Four years ago... So, I'm a big Jack Bauer fan, and I bought "Jack Bauer for president" shirts. And then, that whole day, I was Instagramming and Facebooking, "I'm writing in Jack Bauer! I'm writing in Jack Bauer!" And I would have if he was a real human. But, anyway.

Josh:

That's funny. Who was I just... Oh, Leah, I was talking to her on the way, as we were driving to the airport. We were talking about Joe Rogan. And, because Joe Rogan is... It's so funny, because people... Like, Trump retweeted one of his tweets. And Joe Rogan's a big liberal, right? Like, he even said he was going to vote for Bernie, before Biden became the nominee. And so I feel like a lot of Trump supporters, are like, "Yeah, Joe Rogan's a Trump fan!" Like, Joe Rogan is not a Trump fan. That's not at all what it is. And so we were like, "Well, who do you think he's going to vote for?" And I was like, "If I was a betting man, I would bet that he votes for Kanye. That he wrote him in."

Because he does this three-hour interview. And Kanye answers... If you watch the interview... I mean, I know it's three hours of your time, and you'll probably never get to it. But it is a fascinating interview. And he asked... Because he keeps trying to bring Kanye back to like, "If you were president, what would you do?" Because Kanye is like, "I'm going to be president. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when," right? Like, "If I don't win this year, I'm going to for sure win in 2024." Kanye, I love your confidence. But anyway, so, Kanye answers these questions completely differently. And so, anyway. I don't want to run with that.

But, my real question for you... So, you can go long on these, or we can go rapid-fire questions on them. Either way. Atlas Shrugged. Got the world on his shoulders. You feel that. How do you deal with that responsibility? Because I'm sure there's been times, I know in my own life, with my three to five little people that I'm managing, and some contractors, I'm like, "Oh my gosh! If I have to take one more thing, I'm just going to explode!" Right? Like, if we don't... So how do you, how do you deal with that pressure, and not... One of the things that I've had to learn how to do is, I don't know if anger is the right word, but deal with not taking out my frustration on somebody else. Right?

Like, God bless Leah. She knows me super, super well. And like she knows the moods where it's like, "Don't ask him a question." Like, "Avoid it, and let him cool off," because if you say the wrong thing right now, I'm just going to inadvertently take it out on her. And I've had to learn how to balance that and communicate that. How do you deal with all that pressure, and still... You've got 400 people looking up to you. I know you don't talk to them everyday, but that's a lot.

Russell:

Yeah. That's just employees. And you have the community, and...

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

Yeah, it gets heavy. A lot. And I think it's funny, because, as you read the book, you know, Atlas Shrugged and walked away from the thing...

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

And I think for me, I don't want to walk away. You know what I mean? I don't think... That's a big thing. And I think, because the first part is, I was thinking about it, that... Because I'm a big believer that this, for me, is a calling. It's a mantle. This is what I've been called to do at this time in my life. And since, as heavy as it gets... Like, man, think about other people in a different time who had to carry a burden they didn't want to lift, right? There's tons of them. So I think about that a lot.

I reached out to other people who were producers, who I know have heavy... You can ask Garrett White. Every time I'm stressing out to the max, I text Garrett, and I'm like, "Hey, man. Life's heavy. Just thinking about you." And he always sends back something about, like, "Dude, do you realize how you've changed my..." just things like that, that just... It's just like, "Okay, it's worth it. Thank you." And then, in Voxer, whenever someone voxes me something, it's like, this success story of, like, "Dude, just so you know, blah, blah, blah."

And on Voxer, you can star things. So I have a whole starred menu of all the people that have told me how the fact that I'm carrying this has changed their life. So I'll listen to those, and I'll listen to four or five or six of them. And eventually, when I hear those things, it gets lighter. And so that's a big thing, for me, is just that... Dave, one of my... I'm not sure if Dave's still here or not. But Dave's one of my best friends.

Josh:

Is he still here?

Russell:

No.

Josh:

Dave.

Russell:

One of my favorite humans. Yeah. And now he's... Anyway. You know, he's carrying a lot of pressure, now, too. Dave... I don't know if you knew this... Dave is the CEO now of ClickFunnels. He's taking over a huge part of my responsibility. And he's carrying out-

Josh:

Oh, he's into the CEO role?

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Or, is he? Or he's moving into it?

Russell:

He is. Officially, now, yeah. Internally. And he's...

Josh:

Congratulations, Dave.

Russell:

And, looking back now, something I should have done five years ago. He's so much better than me at... Than I am. But I see him, I see Todd, I see that people on our team who are carrying weight. And having other people that you're doing this with, besides yourself, helps a lot. So I think that's a big part of it, too, is just... I don't know. If it was just me, like that, eventually I think I'd shrug and walk away. But I know that there's a dozen other people all holding that up as well, and that helps a lot as well, because you know you're not in it alone.

I always tell Dave, I'm like, "Man, if I was going to war, I would bring you. Just because I want you in the trenches with me. You know what I mean?" And knowing that I'm not in it alone helps a lot. So I think a lot of times, it's those things. When you're where, when you're doing it by yourself, that's when it gets hard. I try to not... And I think our default human thing is to isolate, and take the pressure and pain. And just for me, as an introvert, I'd rather isolate. But I try, specifically when it gets heavy, just to, like, "Okay, I can't isolate, or I'm going to just get crushed."

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And I reach out, and that helps me a lot to be able to sustain stuff.

Josh:

Next rapid-fire question, if you will. Success takes sacrifice. So, in managing ClickFunnels, obviously you love it. But what things are you not able to do, or do you wish you were able to do more of, that you are not able to because of the role that you play in ClickFunnels?

Russell:

Yeah. Stuff like this. I feel bad. There's so many people who ask for podcast interviews and things like that. People that I would love to do it with, but just there's not enough time. I miss... When we were first growing ClickFunnels, and starting it, I just remember coming in in the mornings, and being like, "What should we do today?" And thinking about it, and brainstorming. I miss that part. Now you come in, and it's like, "All right, there's 8,000 things you got to do." And it's like, "Okay," and I miss those parts of it. I don't know, I miss... Not being able to turn it off, but I think... I don't know, it would be nice... I think it's Alex Charfen, I'm thinking about. Like, "You don't want to run off into the white wood." There's times where... And this is dorky. This is the cheesiest thing. Remember watching the last... Endgame? Avengers Endgame.

Josh:

Oh, yeah.

Russell:

And, at the end, when Iron Man dies, and... What's her name? Pepper Potts. When she's like, "You can rest now." I remember hearing that, and I was just like... I actually started crying. I was just like, "I feel like I want to rest sometime. I don't know how, or when, or-" I desire that. I don't know how, because there's so much stuff and so many things. And I think, I don't know, I long for that moment. Where it's just like, whatever the... Like at the end of the Bootstrap book. I don't know where or when that happens, but-

Josh:

Right, yeah.

Russell:

If there's ever a time where it's just like, "Oh. We did it." Like, it's weird, because in wrestling, there was a thing where you get your hand raised, and then you get to rest. Business, I haven't found that. Like, it's just this constant thing. Where you have victories and stuff, but you never... Again, wrestling is like, you'd cut weight a week, you'd train, you'd practice, and you'd go out there, head-to-head. You wrestle. You get a hand-raise, you go out to eat, and you relax. You sleep that weekend. Monday, you get back to work. I don't feel like, in business, there's ever been that. Like, "Ah."

Josh:

Do you think it exists?

Russell:

I don't know. I assume when people sell a business there's some of that, but most people I know that have sold a business... It's harder. Because it's like someone else is taking your thing that your identity is tied to. So that scares me too. And so I don't know. That's something, I don't know if it's like... Is it when I die that I'm like, "Ah." Like Iron Man? I don't know... I don't know. Some day. I desire that. I don't know how to get it, but that's something I'm looking at. How do you get that? How do you get that release you get, where you're just like, "Ah, I did a good job." I think Funnel Hacking Live is probably the closest to that?

Josh:

Yeah. That's what I was thinking.

Russell:

Right after it ends? But then also, sometimes... Like two years ago, and it's semi-controversial, and I got blown up for, like, three or four days. And I remember I was like, "This sucks!" Like, "I just killed myself, and now I'm defending myself for three days because of some other speaker who said something that I wish they wouldn't have, but they did, and..." And, yeah. Some of the things like that are hard, but, huh. Anyway.

Josh:

Are we having Funnel Hacking Live this year? Or, next year, I guess?

Russell:

Some version of it, yeah. We're in a contract battle with Nashville, where we've done it the last two years. I was just to go there again this year. It typically takes us nine months, for Funnel Hacking Live. Obviously, because of everything, we haven't. We're three months out from when it was supposed to be, and there's no way I can fill it in time. Plus, I don't think we were going to come do there. And so we're trying to push that contract for another year, and then doing a hybrid, something in between. So far, we haven't even got the contract, which is... Anyway. So, something will happen. And I'm dying to not announce it yet, because I don't have finality yet. But some version of Funnel Hacking Live-

Josh:

What? You mean you can't break something right here, live, at-

Russell:

I've tried my best! To-

Josh:

1:00 in the morning, Eastern time?

Russell:

We'd love to do some kind of hybrid... Something. Essentially, because I spoke at Tony's thing, where he had the big internet…

Josh:

Yeah. How was that?

Russell:

It was really cool. And hard. Because, at first, you come out, and you're in this room, and there's faces everywhere, like, "Ah! That's amazing!" But you're speaking at an event. You shift, and you're looking at different people, which is fun. Here, if you look at people, it looks like you're talking like this. So you have to look at the camera. So, you have a million faces everywhere, and you have to look right here? And you can't-

Josh:

Oh my God!

Russell:

And everyone's doing weird things, and so it's kind of hard. Because you're like, I have to look here, or else it looks like I'm not connected to you. But there's so much happening that I want to... It was-

Josh:

Oh. That's crazy.

Russell:

It was almost... I don't know if "Dizzy" is the right word, but something that we were just like... It was different. It was hard to get used to. But, anyway, he's building a new place that's three times as big. We're just going to have a hybrid, where half is at... half's the stadium. He said something interesting. He's like, "This year is the year of virtual. Next year is the year of hybrid." So I'm trying to figure out our version of that. And I don't know what that is yet.

Josh:

Hybrid being part live, part...

Russell:

Yeah. Yeah. Because I never wanted to make Funnel Hacking Live virtual, ever. Because… it’s this thing. But I also want to make it... Yeah, anyway. So, I'm hoping. I'm hoping the next couple weeks have some finality on that contract, so we can start the next... Whatever the process looks like. So it'll be some version of 2021, for sure.

Josh:

Cool.

Russell:

Where people who want to travel will be able to travel.

Josh:

All right. Awesome. Two more questions.

Russell:

Okay.

Josh:

One: what is one thing that people don't know about you? What's a Russell Brunson thing that is a pretty defined part of who you are that people don't really know?

Russell:

I'm public about everything...

Josh:

Are you, though?

Russell:

I don't know. That's a good question. Have you learned anything by me since you've been here in our...

Josh:

Yeah, a couple of things.

Russell:

Really?

Josh:

Yeah. A couple of things. Yeah. More from your wife, though. Yeah. She's told...

Russell:

She's telling you all the good stuff.

Josh:

Also, your kids are fascinating.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah. I talked to them for probably 10, 15 minutes.

Russell:

My kids are the coolest. I think my biggest fear in life is that I am not going to be the dad that they need. You know what I mean? I don't know. He's going to be like... I don't know. Being a parent's way harder than I thought I was going to be. I thought I was going to be amazing at it. I'm like, "I can influence thousands of people at once," but the person you care about and love the most? And same to my wife. I think those are my biggest fears. I don't want to mess up the family. And it's weird because, again, it's like all my super powers are like my kryptonite in a family. You know what I mean?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And so I think I struggle with that a lot of times, where it's just like, "Nah, I'm such a good communicator." I think. Communicating messages. And I struggle communicating with people I love the most. So I think that's it, I think. I am scared to death of cats and dogs. I will not touch them.

Josh:

Really?

Russell:

Yeah. I won't touch any animal. They're disgusting to me. And I'm allergic to cats, but the way it came about is, when I was in high school, the girl I was dating, she had a cat, and they went out of town. She's like, "You can watch my cat." And I was like, "Okay." So I came in, and the cat's rubbing against me, so I was petting it, because I'm like... I'd never had an animal before, right? And I'm petting it. And my eyes swole shut. For three days. Three days later, they finally opened again, and the white part was all blood-red. And I don't trust animals since then. You can watch me. My in-laws have cats. I walk in the house, and I stand there. I won't sit on the couches, because I'm like... Because I break out an allergies. If like a dog runs up to me, everyone... You'll see I've kind of turned my... Like, "Don't touch me." Anyway, I don't like animals. Unless you can eat them. So there's something people probably don't know about me.

Josh:

There you go! Who would've guessed, who would've guessed. All right.

Last question. Final question. And I asked this to you... I think I have asked this to you before, but now we're here. We're in person. And we're going to talk. I want you to fast-forward to the end of your life, when you are on your deathbed, and I want you to... All your money, and success, and fame, and influence it's all gone. But you've influenced a lot of people. And you get to leave them with a final message that kind of defines... not what you took away from life, but like the message that you feel like you should put on to some... Pass on, for generations to come. What would you want to be defined by? What would you want that message to be, for people to remember you by?

Russell:

Cool... And I'm hoping... Honestly, my biggest hope. I'm hoping that when we die, we go to our maker. I'm hoping that we get a glimpse of what our life actually did. You know, like the ripple effect?

Josh:

Fascinating.

Russell:

You know It's A Wonderful Life?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

When he sees what it was like, before and after? I'm hoping all of us get that experience. Because you have no idea what you're actually doing with it. But I'm sure what we're all doing is... Anyway, I'm praying that we get that moment, because that would be... Anyway. I think my message that I-

Josh:

That would be so cool.

Russell:

Yeah. Can you imagine that?

Josh:

Yeah. That'd be wild.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

We need to do a podcast just about our faith. That'd be cool. That'll be our next one.

Russell:

Okay. That'd be fun.

Josh:

Next one, I'll fly out here for, and we'll just do it, just about-

Russell:

That'd be fun.

Josh:

Just about God, and faith. All right.

Russell:

That'd be fun. But I think for my message, I would leave it as, I think that... Again, just to tie back to what we talked about initially, I think a lot of us start these businesses, or start whatever we're trying to do, whatever we're called to do, you start initially out of greed, right? It's natural, man. We have these desires that make us want to do stuff, right? And I think for me, when I first got started in this business, I just thought it was to make money, and all these kind of things. And I saw, even when it started having an impact, I mean, "This is cool, this is cool." But it wasn't until...

I had a coach a few years ago. She's amazing. And I remember she asked me about what I think God thinks about my business. I'm like, "Why would He care about this?" He cares about how I'm living my life, and I'm keeping to the Commandments and stuff, but why would He care about this?" She's like, "Don't you see it?" And I'm like, "See what?" She's like, "You don't see what He's... Who you've become? His hand in your life?" And it never had crossed my mind. And she started helping me understand, like, "This thing that you're doing is not just to make money. This is a calling. This is literal... This is a calling. You were called of God to do this thing, and the ripple effect, and people's lives you're changing... Even though you're helping people to start businesses, build funnels, it seems like it doesn't matter, but it does. Because it frees people, and then they can change people's lives. And the ripple effect is huge."

And she helped me understand that day, in such a profound way, that just these things that we're doing, it's a literal calling from God. I think if I was on my deathbed, I would want people to know, like, when you feel that tug, or that nudge, that thing that starts you on this journey, that's not just like, "Oh, it'll be fun. Oh, I'll make some money," or whatever. It's literally God giving you something. This is your stewardship. Do something with it. See what it is. I think, if you realize that... Since I've realized that, it's been different. Now that I know that, it's like, "Okay, I'm going to run as hard as I can. Because this is not just an idea I had. This is a gift." And it's like these tests, like, "What am I going to do with this?"

And then when you look at it from that lens, it's like, man, you can do and create... You have more faith in yourself, because it's not yourself, right? I get scared every time I get on stage. I got nervous before this. Like I get... "You're probably confident, because you're on the stage in front of 35,000 people." No! I freak out in front of, like, 20 people! I get so nervous. But I'm like, "I know that I can do it, because this is a calling that was given. And He's not going to give me something that I can't do." And so I think that, if I could help people understand that...

I don't know the right way to articulate it, but I think if everybody understood that, how real that actually is, it'd make you run harder, make you work harder, and make you braver, and make you have more courage, more... All the things you need to get that message out. Because you were called. It is a literal calling. And you're probably not worthy of it yet? Like, when you get it, you're not worthy. Like they say, "He qualifies, so he calls," right? You're not qualified right now, but the act of you moving forward is what qualifies you, and what prepares you for the calling. And I think that, if people understood that, man, people would focus so much less on themselves and on their situation and just, like, "All right. Here's the baton. Run." Right?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

You're now gonna start running. And you would do it with perfect faith, because you know it's from somebody beside yourself. And I think if people understood that and believed, it would change everything.

Josh:

Russell. Thank you so much, man.

Russell:

Yeah, man.

Josh:

This was so much fun.

Russell:

It is fun.

Josh:

I'm so glad we were able to make this happen.

Russell:

How long do we have to do... Where are we at?

Josh:

We're at three hours and 18 minutes.

Russell:

Dang. And we're still here?

Josh:

Three hours 20 minutes. Yeah.

Russell:

Dang, a lot of people still here.

Josh:

Yeah. I've got... Yeah. Quite a bit.

Russell:

Thanks for having me, man. Thanks for coming all the way out here for this. It was cool.

Josh:

Yeah. Of course. Yeah. And-

Russell:

Oh, and we have the comments now.

Josh:

What do you guys think of the interview? Yes? Good, bad? Thumbs up? Rate it! On a scale from 1 to 10. On a scale from 1 to 10, give us a rating. 1 to 10.

Russell:

"I used to think Russell was cool, but now I think he's crazy," or, "I used to think Russell was crazy, now I think he's cool." I'm good with all those things. I'm just curious.

Josh:

Russell, God bless you. God bless your wisdom and mission. Look at this. Thank you so much. This is amazing.

Russell:

Smileys are here. What's up, Smileys?

Josh:

Let's go, let's go. What's up, James Smiley? Great stuff. Awesome. I love it, I love it. I could do... A 1000. We got a 1000 out of 10.

Russell:

Dang!

Josh:

That's pretty darn good.

Russell:

It is really good.

Josh:

12? 12 out of 10.

Russell:

Oh, so fun.

Josh:

Brent? what's up, man? All right, we're going to have to do this again. Sometime when we can sit down and talk about God. That one, we're really gonna have to get prepped for it. Oh, do you know Nick Robbins?

Russell:

Not off the top of my head.

Josh:

All right. He's kind of in the ClickFunnels world? He ran an agency, sold it, but still remained a partner, and then got bored, and then came back into it? Anyway. So he and I had, I think, a three-and-a-half-hour conversation about God. So, it's interesting, because he and I actually have a lot of similar beliefs, but he doesn't believe in God. So he's like, "Yeah, I think there's something out there, and it's something intelligent," or whatever. And so we had a... He uses language. And I don't, typically. And so we had all this big, long, huge debate. So, and we've gone there and said that.

Russell:

That's fun.

Josh:

Yeah. So.

Russell:

I think one of the most fascinating conversations I ever had was with Howard Berg, the world's fastest reader? That guy's, like, 30,000...

Josh:

Yeah. Oh, that's right! He came here, didn't he?

Russell:

Yeah. A couple of times, since we've hung out. He's read 30,000 books. I was like, "I can ask this guy any question I want." And so I asked him. I was like, "What's your opinion on God?" And I remember he told me, he said... Because, again, religion usually causes fights. Because, like, "Well, I believe-" you know, and it's so cool, because he's like, "Well, most people read one book, and then they base their belief in God on this one book." He's like, "I've read..." I can't remember what it was... "Like, 1,200 books on God, from every perspective." And he's like, "Based on that, this is what I believe." It was just so cool to see that, I think. And I feel like all of us, instead of us being like, "This is my way, this is my way." It's like, just hear... Even if you completely... I completely disagree with so many people's opinion, but I still hear it. Because, again, why do they believe that? There's something. There's a reason why they believe that. I want to understand that. And, anyway. And it's just so interesting.

Josh:

That's my big thing. My big thing is like... And that's one of the hardest things, for mem is figuring out... My beliefs are always changing. That's probably reason I started the podcast. I just wanted to talk to people. Right? Like, if I'm wrong... I'm so excited whenever someone comes in and is like, "You're wrong, and here's why!" And I'm like-

Russell:

"Sweet!"

Josh:

"Oh my gosh! Thank you so much! I know what I'm onto next! Yes!" Right? Where everybody else is like, "I don't want to be wrong. What are they-" I'm like, "If somebody comes in and proves my idea wrong..." Like, my ideas are pretty thought-through. And I'm a really thought-through person. I know why I believe what I believe, not just what I believe. Right? So if somebody can come along and challenge that? That's one of the things that is so attractive to me about Leah. Leah was smart. She challenged even beliefs that she maybe even agreed with. She'd play the devil's advocate, and change, and challenge it. And I'm like, "that's what I like. I want to grow and expand like that." So, anyway.

Russell:

Yeah. That's awesome.

Josh:

We'll have to come back and do that, so. All right. Russell. Thank you so much, man. Super, super appreciate it. Guys, as always. Hustle, hustle. God bless. Don't be afraid to think different. And who knows? You might just end up in a chair next to Russell Brunson. So, that'd be awesome. Guys, as always, hustle, hustle. God bless. Don't be afraid to think different. Those of us that think different are going to change the world. By using funnels! And other stuff.

Russell:

Yeah!

Josh:

I love you all. And I will see you on the next live stream episode. Take it easy, man.

Russell:

Bye everybody.

Josh:

Peace!

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]]> 2348 no The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 4 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-atlas-shrugged-interview-part-4-of-5 Welcome back to the 4th part of this interview series. We are getting near the end and the topics keep getting more interesting. In this episode you hear them talk about the influence their parents had on their lives in business. If they feel misunderstood as entrepreneurs and how their ability to communicate might be able to change that. Russell explains how he realizes that Clickfunnels is a team effort and that’s what help him stay so grounded. Then they discuss what each liked most about the Atlas Shrugged book and what character they each associate with most. So tune into part 4 of this exciting interview! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. All right. I hope you guys have enjoyed the first three. We are moving into the fourth episode of our interview. My interview with Josh Forti talking about Atlas Shrugged. Again, during this series, we've been talking about religion and politics and all the things you're not supposed to talk about, but we've done it all through the lens of Atlas Shrugged, which I hope you've enjoyed and had a lot of fun with it. Hopefully it's made you want to go and actually read the Atlas Shrugged book, which I think would be really, really cool. With that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to start listening to part four of my interview with Josh Forti. Josh Forti: So, what did your parents do right for you? One of the things that I try to say, I try to say it a lot but I don't even say it enough. My parents have played a absolutely tremendous... I owe so much of who I am today to my parents indirectly in a lot of ways. My parents didn't teach me about money or things like that. That wasn't their gift, but the principles of hard work and family values, biting your tongue, even though it doesn't seem like I bite my tongue. Oh my gosh. Every day, right? Russell Brunson: It could be worse guys. Josh: Right. It could be way worse. Some people would love that, but you know, deescalating situations and having those... I owe so much of who I am to those. Yeah, they messed up in a lot of ways like you said, but what were some of the things that your parents did right? What are the things that you remember from your parents? Russell: Yeah. I love my parents. I was very blessed with my parents, for sure. I don't think my dad was super engaged when we were younger just because he was in the phase where, like trying to figure things out and make money. It was different back then. Josh: Is he an entrepreneur? Russell: Yeah. He also had a job, but he did side business so he was always trying to figure things out. I saw him doing these things. I saw the job he didn't love and then I saw him doing stuff he did love and I watched him work really hard. Then when I started wrestling, I saw my dad... That became the thing that me and him connected with which meant the world to me and it was so important to him. What's cool was that my dad showed up to every wrestling practice. He came to every single match. His day job was State Farm insurance, he built up his book of business where by the time I was wrestling, he was able to take off as much as he wanted. It ran itself and he was making money and had residual income. I remember my dad was the only one, as soon as wrestling practice got done, my dad would walk in and we would do practice afterwards. Never missed a match. He was always there. I remember just thinking, I want to make sure I have a business or something like my dad was for me. That was so important to me. Like I said, he wasn't super around when we were younger and I think he struggled because of the younger kids, which I understand. That phase in my life, he was there and my best friend and it was just, it was awesome. I love that and I've been trying to have my kids now. Especially at times where maybe I wasn't as good of a dad, I was too busy. I'm trying to connect more. That was my dad for sure. Then my mom, for me she was just... I wouldn't say I'm a people pleaser but I'm very much an achiever. I think when I started wrestling and I saw my dad got closer to me and then I got a win and I saw him get excited, I wanted to win because I wanted to impress my dad. To this day, I think I still have that. Part of the reason I'm in this business and I'm doing stuff is I love when my dad sees it. There's something, I love impressing him. To this day I love that win. With my mom, she loved me even when I didn't win. that was something that was so foreign to me. I remember I'd be cutting away for wrestling, I hadn't eaten for three days. I'd be so tired, so miserable. She'd come down and sneak in my room, bringing me food. I'm like, "Mom, I can't eat. I'm not going to make weight." She's like, "Why don't you just quit then? You don't need to do this." She was the opposite of my dad. She loved me no matter what and didn't care that I was trying to win or succeed. Couldn't care less. She loved me just because I was me. That was weird but so cool as well. It's both those principles, it's something I've tried to weave in. I've got two different sides I'm trying to weave that into my kids. Again, so far from perfect, but I think those are the two things that meant the world to me, that I'm super grateful for them those things for me because I still remember those things now. Josh: So there is... Which by the way, that's awesome. There's a lot of people in this world that are growing up without a dad, without a mom. It's interesting because I think a lot of my social media posts, I kind of come across sometimes like the heartless a-hole, you know what I mean? A little bit, they're like, "Josh!" You know what I mean? You talk about, take personal responsibility for your life, everybody can do anything. If you're broke it's your fault, that's one of my favorite sayings. If you're broke in America it's your fault, right? They're like, "Josh, you don't understand. You grew up and your parents are still married. Not only do you have parents, they're still together and they still actually love each other." It's not even necessarily they're still together. You're like a percentage of the percentage of the percentage in a lot of ways. I don't even know what question I'm asking you, but what would you do? Where could somebody find that? What can we do as a society or just as entrepreneurs, as producers to help those people? I feel like that's a really big need. Russell: For sure. Josh: One of my big struggles with this is I always want to point it back to the church. I had a really awakening, come-to-Jesus moment back when I posted, this is probably a month ago or so. I posted it on Instagram actually. I think you liked it, actually, so I know you saw it. I said, "Defund the media, defund fear, defund career politicians. Fund orphanages, churches and schools." I posted it on Facebook and I posted it on Instagram, and I was shocked at how many people were like, "Dude. Fund the churches? They're a bunch of pedophile people there too." So many people had such this negative view of the church. I grew up in the church, that's what I knew. How I knew how family works is because I saw our own family and then I saw the church family and I saw the community and how the church was involved in the community. The church that I went to, after I moved out Grable, Indiana, I worked three doors down from it and that's where people went to vote was in their gym. And the fair, that's where people parked. The church was such an integral part... that word, a part of the community. So when I saw all these people that had this negative view of the church, that broke my heart because that was my solution. There are so many things. Like, if you don't have a dad, you can go to the church. If you don't have this, you can go to the church. Said, "What?" If that's your answer, that's cool, but how can we as producers of society and the people that are going out there and making the money, how can we help those that don't have what you and I had? Russell: It's interesting. What Mormons believe is the family is the central everything. That's God's plan. Husband and wife starts a family. That's an eternal principle, right? If you look at the adversary, Satan, whatever you want to call him, his job, if he can destroy the family, everything falls apart. That's the war we're in right now. We think we're in a lot of different wars. The war we are in is, Satan is attacking families. That's it. Josh: Okay. I want you to finish this, I have to say this though. Guys, and this is not Russell saying this, this is me. This is why I hate the Black Lives Matter organization. Not movement, the organization so much. Because, their whole principle is bragging about the traditional family values. Anyway, I'm not speaking for Russell. Russell: Yeah, if you Google "The Family: A Proclamation to the World," you'll see my beliefs on family. We have it printed out eight foot on my wall in my house. That's my belief. Family is central, everything. So, Satan, the way he destroys societies and nations and this world is, destroy the family. So when you see families are broken, they're single mothers and single fathers, it's heartbreaking. I think it's the saddest thing in the world. I don't know the right way to solve it. I do know that it's vitally important. I remember first time I met Tony Robbins and started learning from him, one of the principles he talked about in relationships is masculine, feminine energy. The masculine and feminine is key to a relationship. I could go on for four hours just on masculine and feminine. Oh, that's the most fascinating topic in the world. If you ever see how Tony fixes relationships, you look at the traditional view of traditional counseling, there's a problem. They're like, "What's the symptom of the problem?" They try to solve the symptom of the problem and counseling takes years because it's a symptom of the problem. All the issues, they're all symptoms of problems. The real problem is when there's a masculine and a feminine, and it doesn't matter. Again, this is true with gay, straight, doesn't matter. Feminine, masculine energy. You take a masculine and a feminine and that polar opposite, that magnetism, magnetize together, right? That's what creates attraction, passion, everything. What happens is you have a masculine and feminine, they're attracted together. That's how you start. That's how any relationship starts. Right? Then you look at people getting married. It was interesting because what Tony talked about, he said you look at typically in a relationship, there's what they call the seven-year itch, and why is that? He talks about the way the feminine causes change is... Some day I want to write a book on this. I don't know perfectly enough to- Josh: Russell needs to become a writer. My word… Russell: Yeah, I've got a lot of books to write. But, this is how it works in traditional marriage. Masculine and feminine. What happens is one of the ways that feminine causes change is they criticize, right? I see this with my wife, with friends, with girls. If they want their friend to change their hair they don't say, "Hey, you should get a haircut." They'll criticize to try to cause change. Right? What happens is that a feminine- Josh: Yo, wow. That's so true. Interesting stuff. Russell: Yeah. That's just one example of- Josh: Dave! Russell: Feminine… Josh: Right, right. Russell: So, feminine and masculine come together. This is just an example. They'll start criticizing the man, but a masculine man doesn't care, it bounces off him. Like, "Okay. Okay." Right? What happens after seven years of that happening? Eventually instead of it balancing off of you, which is the masculine response, you start taking it personally. Like, "Oh." As soon as you take it personally, guess what happens? You are shifting physically from your masculine into a feminine. You start shifting and what happens is you shift from masculine to feminine and boom, the attraction breaks, and it starts falling apart. And then all the other problems start happening. The problem isn't solving the fact that you leave the toilet seat up or that you don't communicate well. The problem is that the masculine-feminine attraction is broken. If you fix the masculine and feminine, you can make men become men and women become women. Attraction comes back, all the other symptoms disappear. It's fascinating. That's from a marriage, family, relationship standpoint. Josh: Okay. I want to- Russell: I'm telling this because I want to talk about this from the family with kids in a minute, but yes. Josh: Okay. But I want you to now give me another example that Tony Robbins has said, because what you made it sound like there is that the way the woman does something is the thing that's causing the bond. I know that's not what you meant. Russell: Oh, it could be, yeah. That's- Josh: I just wanted to do that clarification. Russell: It's the same thing with the men where the men are responding over and over, where women now become defensive and they become more masculine and it's the other way. Yeah. Sorry. That's not the only example. I was just- Josh: Right. Russell: The one- Josh: I just wanted to make sure we clarify that because I know thing's have been taken out of context before. Russell: Somebody is going to be angry at me. I apologize. I'm stupid. I get it. But conceptually, does that make sense? It's the break of the masculine and feminine that causes the split, which causes the disharmony. And if you bring the masculine and feminine together, I think that's what causes attraction and causes passion and causes all these things. I look at my life when we were struggling in our marriage, it's because I'm showing up feminine. When I show masculine, everything's great. Where my wife comes in masculine and I'm masculine, we butt heads, it's fascinating. Anyway, I don't want to get deep into this because there's so much stuff. There's another show on this, because you look at this thing. You've got a family and the mother and father split and then there's kids who go with either the mother or the father, and now what they have is they've got either a very masculine person they're learning from or feminine, but they don't see both. And so it shifts them and it shifts their relationship. So many problems. I think the way we help the most, or can help the most is... Hormozi does this. Alex Hormozi does this. He donates his money to... Do you remember the name of the charity? He got our first Two Heart award. It's afterschool kids. These kids, like men who... There's these kids trying to play basketball or lift weights or whatever, who don't have masculine energy in their life. They come and they donate their time and they help the kids to brig masculinity. All of us, we need male and female perspectives. Josh: Right. Russell: It's designed to have those things together. When you lose one of them, it's a tragedy. I think the way we can start helping is, how do we bring programs where they can see masculine energy and see the way to make it a positive and not a negative thing? A lot of times, all they know is masculine energy left and oftentimes there's a lot of anger between the people. They hear talking trash about the spouse and talking trash about these traits which are traits that are essential for them to develop. I don't know. I don't know if that's the right answer or not, but I feel like that's how we could help those things. Help them understand, like the kids who don't have a father or a mother. They need that energy in their life to understand it, to be able to... I don't know. Josh: Okay. This is seemingly unrelated to this, but I think that I can tie it back in because it's a question that I think fits in here. I'm going to start with a super-basic question, which I think the answer is obvious, but we'll go down this road. Do you feel misunderstood as an entrepreneur? Russell: I did early on, less so now. Josh: Why is that? Russell: When I was got started... Entrepreneurship has become more of a cool thing in the last decades. Since Shark Tank and stuff. Back when I first started it wasn't. Everyone was confused. Like, "Why would you do that?" It is cooler. Also, I think the more you talk, the more you either alienate people or you attract people, and I think a lot of the people who I have alienated have been alienated and I think they are attracted by attractive. So my bubble of people around me are people who understand this lingo, who relate to it. So it's less hard now than it was initially. Josh: I believe that one of my superpower... Your superpower, your art, your format is marketing and funnels, funnels specifically. That's what you do. I feel you could just sit there for hours and hours and days and forever for the rest of, all of time. Russell: Yes. I love it. Josh: My superpower thing that I like to do is this. Communication. I love constructing words in a way that people can understand. I'm sure not, but the Kanye West interview that Joe Rogan just did three days ago. Russell: I've heard about him… Josh: This has been a long awaited episode. No one thought it was ever going to happen because it was teased and it wasn't, didn't happen. Finally happens. So I see this, I had no idea what's coming. It drops and I'm a huge fan of Joe Rogan and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing!" I sit down and I look online and all these people are like, "Terrible interview. Not worth your time. Couldn't get past the first 20 minutes." Anything like that. I'm like, what? So I go and the first 20 minutes are kind of like, eh whatever. I get done with this three-hour interview. It was like, top three interviews of all time. What's interesting is... Do you know Kanye? Like, how Kanye communicates at all?   Russell: No.   Josh: Okay, there's so many references that I want to use that you won't get. Kanye sees the world fundamentally differently and how Joe describes it in there and the way that I described it is... You wouldn't know this, like I said, because it's psychedelic, it's like a drug or whatever. But imagine being on a psychedelic drug in a small format at all times. That's how his mind works. He sees everything, it's like expanded. So even Kanye said, "The reason I have such a hard time communicating sometimes is because I see things in three-dimensional and then I have to put them into a two-dimensional conversation." I'm not trying to compare myself the way I think to the way that Kanye thinks, ubt this concept of people think he's beating around the bush when really he's just trying to explain something. One of the things I love doing is taking a concept that and figuring out how to describe it in a way that the average person can understand. I live in a different world, just like you live in a different world than the average person does. I live in a different world and that is by choice. I do not see the world the way that most people do. I intentionally do not want to see the world the way that other people do. Everything that I do, I will intentionally engineer where my life is different than the average person because I want to see the world differently, but I want to be able to communicate that in a way that they can understand. My question is, do you think that there's a lot of great ideas stuck inside of producer's heads that if more people understood them and thought like that, we could change the world for the better? But because they're stuck in their head and that person doesn't know how to communicate it well, or is not focused on that, that that effect never happens. Russell: Gotcha. Yes. That's why I think for me the study, this art of funnels and copywriting and story does, is so fascinating. That's what it is, right? I always pitch, like when we have an idea, in my head it's like this big granite block, right? It's like, this is the idea and give it to somebody, like, "This is the idea." You're like, "I don't get it." Right? Josh: Right. Russell: Then you start thinking about, who is it? Start chiseling away at the stone. You start chiseling, chiseling, and eventually you have this amazing statue. This thing that people can see and they can understand and they gravitate towards. I feel it's the same thing with communication or with any kind of idea you're trying to sell. The funnel is one thing. Right now, like, "Hey, you should buy my coaching programs." Why? Like, "Ah, it's too big." I need to take them to a path, simplify that. So there's a step-by-step process which is like chiseling away. Then inside each step of the process, there's the words and the stories, the things you communicate to simplify it to get more and more fine tuned. That's why for me, when we create a funnel and we launch it, it's like taking this big granite block and chiseling it down to now something that somebody can come in on the side of it go through a process. By the time they're done at the end, they're going to get some money, they're going to get a product and something's going to change for them. I think that's what marketing is. it's that process of trying to simplify the message. I think a hundred percent, that's why most ideas don't get out. I don't know, how many times have you had... This kind of comes back to talking about, who knows, an hour or two ago too, but four or five people get the same idea, but then one person executes on it. It's like the person who understands the communication the best is the one typically who gets it out, right? How much of your life or my life has been focused on the communication? I don't necessarily like that part as much. It's not my favorite part, but it's such an essential tool. I remember when I got in this game and I was trying to sell my very first product, Zip Brander. I put it up, I had a picture of it, Buy Now button and tried to send traffic, and nobody bought it. Someone's like, "Well, you need a headline," so I'm like, okay. So I put a headline. "Tell us what this does." So I found some sites that kind of modeled what they did and the people started buying it. It was learning that process of, how do you communicate? I remember thinking, I never want to learn how to write copy. That's what we all thought back then. "I don't want to write copy, I don't want to do that. That sounds horrible." I wanted to hire someone, but the people I tried to hire was expensive, it was 10 to $20,000 for a sales letter. I couldn't afford it, so I'm like, I have to learn this art and how to communicate. I'm so grateful because that's how everything we built has been, off the communication of an idea, and doing it in a way that gets people to move. Josh: How do you decide what you're going to communicate? You have a lot of ideas in your head and you have a lot of different thoughts on everything and you choose to share funnels and marketing primarily. Then you have some religion in there, which I would say probably is number two, maybe ish, of what you communicate. But that's it. How do you decide... Russell: The battles I want to choose? Josh: Yeah. Russell: What battles? That's a good question. I think part of what's interesting, like why did I want to do this interview? I read the book, it was fascinating. I don't know the answers and I thought this would be a fun way to talk it out loud. This is fascinating. Funnels are fascinating to me because I can apply it to so many things. You know when I talk a lot about wrestling, but not the community you bump into but for wrestling, I talk about that. I think it's just the ideas that fascinate me that I feel have the most fluidity and can do the most. Again, as an introverted person, I'll typically go out and have conversations with people as much as I can, but when I find something that does cause and effect, that's why I practice telling my story so many times and I'll do a podcast. I know now when I'm on stage in front of 9,000 people, the stories can get people to move because I practice it. So I think it's putting a lot of things out in the water and then seeing what things people relate to, and then I go deeper on the ones that are like, "Okay, this one had an impact." There's a lot of stuff. I remember in first version Dotcom Secrets, there were seven or eight chapters more that never got published. I was going to publish… Josh: Do you have copies of this? Russell: Yeah. It was like, all my best stuff at the time that I knew that I was going to publish it and it was all in the book. I remember I heard an interview with Tim Ferriss and Ryan Holiday... Ryan Holiday at the time and they were both talking... Anyway, they were talking about their books. Both of them said that when they write a typical book... You know, Tim Ferris's books are like this fat… My first draft was like, twice as big. It's like, to make your book go from good to great, it's not adding more. It's cutting. Like, I cut two thirds of my book to give you this one. I think it was Ryan said the same thing. The first draft is usually twice as big as the final one. Then the next section, it's cut, cut, cut, cut. I remember going back to Dotcom Secrets that night and I was like, "Okay, based on that, what would I cut and how would that do?" I cut seven chapters out and after I was done, I was so scared because I love these things, but those things aren't that important to get people what they need to actually be successful. Some of those things ended up being in Dotcom Secrets and Expert Secrets, and different places, but yeah. I wonder how that first version- Josh: I was going to say, I wonder if she just published the first day or if she had a 2,700 page book and cut something out of it. That's crazy. Okay. Back to the question in the car, and I want to tie this back to the book. How has growing a multi-hundred million dollar, making hundreds of millions of dollars having a roughly billion-dollar company, being the CEO of 400 employees, how has that changed your perspective of the world? Russell: So many things I could respond. I think there was a season of my life where I thought that if I was going to create something, if I was going to do something, the way I was going to do it, by me. Does that makes sense? Josh: Yeah. Russell: In fact, if you look at my history, the first decade of business, the businesses were about me. They were me. I was the sole owner, the sole person. On this journey, when we started, it was so different. It was like, what's the team look like? Todd was my first time I had a partner. That was so scary for me. Then it's been the greatest thing I possibly could have done. Right? Then we brought in other partners and then employees and stuff. I don't know. It's been fascinating just realizing that to build this, it wasn't about me. It was about... I don't know, just that whole thing. I think anything great, a lot of times there's a person that gets credit for it. Like, Elon Musk gets credit because whatever or Bill Gates or whoever the people are, they get the credit for it. You start really seeing how many people are involved to make something amazing. You know what I mean? I think that's the biggest thing for me as I started growing it. It's frustrating. Not frustrating for me. I enjoy it. People are always asking, "Russell invented ClickFunnels." I literally don't know how to code anything. There's not one dot of code in that word. Maybe once I leaned over Todd's shoulder, put a button in that and he had to delete it. I think it's cool that you see how many... Before Funnel Hacking Live, every time we start we bring our whole team together. I'm the one who's on stage, but I am fully aware that it is not me. This is us. If it wasn't for this team and these people, all you guys, all your contribution, this was impossible. I want to always ground that because I think sometimes the leader or whoever gets a big head where they think it's them. I see that with a lot of people who are on big stages where they still drink their own Kool-Aid so they think it's them. That's my shift in the world, just understanding the great things, the things that we remember. The things that are legacies that go on and on and on. There may be a head or a person that the branding tied too, but there's this group of people that created something amazing. That's… know what I mean? Josh: How do you stay grounded? I am a huge fan of Russell because for me, you're the person I look up to as not just, hey, you taught me how to make a lot of money, but I want to have the character that you have. I don't want to have... I look at Grant Cardone. You don't have to talk smack about Grant Cardone, but I can. Grant Cardone is really, really full of himself. Don't get me wrong. I learned a lot from Graham Cardone, especially about money. He's changed my perspective about a lot of things. I'm eternally grateful for that, but if I grew up to be Grant Cardone, where that was the focus.., I mean, I watched him, I was there at the stadium down in Miami or whatever. It was all about him. I think he even got up on stage and was like, "Oh yeah, everybody says Russell is the greatest salesman, but I'm the one that packed the house." I'm like, dude! You know what I'm saying? Why? Why is that necessary? How do you stay grounded? It's so fascinating to me to watch different types of people. I know Tai Lopez for example, for awhile there, it was all about Tai and now he's gone more behind the scenes, but each person that I watch whether it's Tai or Gary or Grant, they all have a different way about them. You have your way about them. The one that I see as the most grounded, humble... There's nobody that's looking at you. You get up on a stage and you're like, "Oh yeah, I'm Russell!" You know what I mean? Russell: Everyone awkwardly, like, "Yay." Josh: Right. Then you walk up and Grant's like... But you, it's just yeah, it's that awkward, "Hey, I'm just over here." How are you grounded in that? How do you not let it get to your head? Because it would be so easy for you to get wrapped up in your own head. Russell: Someone told me it's because of my wife. They said, "If you'd married anybody else, your head would be so big." Josh: I met your wife for the first time today. I mean, we had crossed paths, but I said when you were getting your haircut, "So what's it like being married to Russell?" She goes, "Hes just the sixth child of mine." I was like, oh boy. The big kid. Russell: That's awesome. I think I would say it's two things. We kind of talked about this earlier, but I'll tie back to it. The first one is that I am fully aware that these ideas are not mine. I didn't invent the funnel. I didn't invent any of this stuff. All I know is that I was on a path, in a journey. I was given the thing and the next thing, and I was freaking out and I was putting them together. That's part of it. This stuff's not mine. It's stuff that was given to me and tested and so I'm so grateful for that. It's never me like, "Oh, look what I invented." That's so annoying because it's not. Again, come back to these ideas, these thoughts, these desires and things that were given to us. I think that's the first part. The second part of it is, and I see this a lot in people in my world who, they had some success and then they're like, "This is my person. I made them a bajillion..." I hate that too. Like, you helped them in a piece but they did the work. I'm very careful to always when I'm talking about any of our success stories, I didn't make that person. We had this super-cool opportunity to be a piece to their journey. Right? We helped them give them some ideas and a tool, but they're the ones that killed. I don't know what it takes to build what they're building. I didn't do that. They did that. I'm grateful that they did and I'm even more grateful that I got to be a little piece of that. I got to be part of that journey. I got to see that and just have the impact of, oh my gosh. Because I killed myself and wrote those books and because Todd killed himself and wrote software and I was able to communicate it, they're able to do this thing and it's not all me. I'm fully aware it's not all me. I know what every entrepreneur has to go through to be successful and it's not a mentor who gives you everything. It's just a lot of people who are a piece. I've had mentors who gave me a piece that I'm so grateful for, but then they try to take all the credit, like, "Oh, this is when..." I hate that too. So I think those two sides. Number one is again, I don't think these ideas are something that I came up with. They were given to me and I was a good steward of them because I was able to aggregate and there's the thing. The number two is just my belief that I didn't help anyone. Even when you said, "You and Katie," I felt awkward. I didn't do anything. Josh: Right. Russell: Luckily some of the stuff resonated with you and it was a little piece of your journey. I'm so grateful for that. The fact, to see you do stuff now, it's so much fun for me to watch you. Just knowing, "Man, because he bumped into me, maybe something happened and now he's doing this stuff and this work and it's so cool seeing how you're impacting people." I think those are the reasons why I don’t think my head gets big, because I don't think it's me. I'm grateful that I get to be a piece of it, of the journey, but I'm not the creator of it. Josh: All right. I want to loop back to the book. Russell: Go ahead. Can we just read it? You guys want us to read it to you? Josh: Yeah. What was the thing that fascinated you about it though? When you've asked me, you were like, "Dude, I read it and I'm geeking out about it, I just want to geek out about it." What about it had you so fascinated? What did you want to geek out about it? I have a question that I want to ask later on about it, but what was the thing that just made you geek? Russell: There are a lot of things. I think the biggest thing that I was really excited, we talked about earlier was just… The biggest thing earlier was just this cons-... Again, for those of you who are tuning in late in here, there's the whole, it talks about greed. Right? And that concept of greed versus charity. Again, the book very much is like, greed is good, it's the thing that causes production and you should care about yourself and then good things will happen, it will create jobs and everything else will take care of as long as you're caring most about yourself. Which I thought was kind of cool but then also I had the other side with my beliefs in Christ and Christianity and all these things like that, where it's just like, how does that reconcile with faith, hope, charity and love, and serving everybody else? That's probably the thing that got me the most. I think about that a lot, especially in politics. Again, I'm not deep into politics, I'm not going to talk about who I'm voting for, not voting for, it doesn't matter. But I see that on both sides. I feel like on the Republican side you see a lot of this stuff, like this. Then on the Democrat side, you see a lot of the charity stuff. Again, in my notes I wrote this actually initially, because I wanted to talk about this. I'm a big believer that there's not a right and wrong. There's good in both sides. Josh: There's not a right or wrong side. Russell: Yeah. Things are messed up on both sides. It's how the world works. Satan, there's this eternal struggle between God and Satan and Christ, this is always happening. So there's two sides and there's God-like principles and things on the right that are amazing and then there's Satan that's twisting things and jacking them up. Same thing on both sides. I see everyone fighting tooth and nail and I bet you, if we all sat down, the majority of all issues we'd all agree on. But then it's these fringe things that causes so much hatred and fighting and just drives me crazy. I think that this book is the perfect example of what I believe so much in some of these principles, but there's also the opposite principles that I also believe in and they're both right. If you missed the beginning part of the interview, we talked more about that but the greed, the growth and contribution, that transition is the key that just fascinates me. Josh: Yeah. What parts of the book contradicted the most with your faith? What part of the books did you have the hardest time with because of your faith? Russell: Yeah. The producers in the book, the minds, the people that I connect with, because I self-identify as a producer, someone who's obsessed with production and creating. That’s why I relate with Hank Rearden, Dagny, all these people are cut from my same cloth. It's as they're growing this stuff that they didn't give back, that they didn't... That's the thing. I felt like they weren't rounded out characters and that's the biggest thing for me. The first half of the book, I want to be Hank Rearden. He's fricking the man. Like yes, that's all I want to be. I wanted to see him have that change of heart where he's Christ-like and he gives of his own free will. Not because the government came with the gun and told him he's got to pay taxes. I wanted to see his character develop and realize that, "Oh my gosh, I should be serving people because I love them. Not because of the government's force." That's the piece that I wish. Josh: It never took that turn. The book, you almost expected it and then it didn't happen. Russell: It got worse and worse and worse and then they waited until just everything... People were dying, everything collapses and then the lights in the yurt go out, wooh, and they're like, "Okay, now we can come back and build." Josh: Now we can go back and build, but even when they come back and build, it was built by our new law of basically... Actually, one of the things that's fascinating about that was... Gosh, it was towards the end. Was it Galt? I think it was Galt. Yeah, I think it was during his speech when he was like, "The minds society, we gave all this stuff to you guys basically." Trying to be like God there, but every day, we created all this stuff, we created these jobs, we created these resources. We gave it to you and all we wanted from you guys was for you to let us be in our own head. Let us, our minds be free and not be controlled by anything else. You took all that and not only did you take it all, then you said, "No, you're bad and we're going to take that away too. So we're all going on strike because of that." You relate to that so much and then it's like, yes! Then they explained how they live and it's like, you expect them to have that change of heart rather, but no. It's because we are amazing and because we are the great minds and we must live by this code. It has nothing to do with actually giving back or actually contributing to society. It was like they didn't care about contributing to society. It just happened to happen. Russell: Yeah. Which is cool, which is why again, governments should let producers produce because the byproduct is really good. Josh: Right. Russell: For everybody. So that part is so much I relate to. Part of this is probably because Ayn Rand didn't believe in God. You know what I mean? That wasn't part of her values and so it's tough because she weaved that... I just wish at the end of the book, it would have been like, and then Hank Rearden realized that he could help all these people himself and so he built orphanages and changed all these kids' lives. Like, yes! That would have been amazing. He found about OUR and he went and donated money to save all these children. Josh: Right. Russell: But he did it of his own free will because he had that change of heart. I don't want to die at the end of my days and... I produced some great jobs, but I didn't care about people. I feel like that missed the mark. Josh: Hank Rearden you say is the person you related to really most in the book? Russell: Yeah, I think so. I wanted to be Francisco though, he was pretty sweet. Josh: Who do you think I related to most in the book? Russell: Oh. Who was it? Josh: It was a relatively main one. You were close. Russell: Oh, was it Francisco? Josh: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Russell: He was cool. Josh: Right from the beginning he fascinated me. I knew right when, the plot twist of where he ran off and became the playboy or picture, he was obviously a playboy or whatever. I knew right then and there. I don't know what the plot, I don't know what the connection is but I know this is going to come back around and it's not going to be how it seems. The mind doesn't shift and then he stays in the scene or whatever. He fascinated me because, or he strikes me as someone... Hank Rearden didn't care about the crowds. He did not at all. He hated going to the wedding. It was by force that his wife drug him out there that one time. It was always, "I just want to work in my office." I'm actually not like that. I am actually much more the... I do like the crowds, but I don't like the crowds because I need praise. Don't get me wrong, I like being on stage and doing this type of stuff or whatever, but for me, I like the crowds because I love people. It's funny because I actually don't get along with a lot of people in real life. Whenever I go to the airport, I'm like, I will pay whatever it takes. Put me on a plane first, the least amount of people I have to deal with, whatever. I don't want to have to interact with people that I don't want to interact with. But I love studying and understanding people's minds. For me, one of the reasons I am so fascinated by Donald Trump is because of how he can control the crowds. You look at his rallies. Dude, you can't ignore them. They're just huge. My fiance's parents, or her mom and Kirby went yesterday, I think it was last night, to Omaha. 29,000 people showed up in the bitter cold of Omaha, a last-minute notice. That type of control or not even control, but that type of influence to be able to go through, what is it that makes people go and do that? So Francisco in the book, he was the partier guy and he went and he was with the crowds and he was very good with words and articulated, but he sold me at that wedding. I'm telling you. Russell: That was good. Josh: To me, there's more than two ways, but super simplified down, there's two ways to influence people. There's one, which is the indirect, which is build a software company, it's build a product, it's build an iPhone. You're not directly influencing them with your words or whatever, but it's influencing their behavior by creating a product, by creating a service that's going to go out and change the world. Then the other way is to actually go out there and change them with your words. That's why Jesus, for example, Jesus didn't build the product. He did it through His words kind of, sort of, but to me that's so fascinating. If I can figure out how to do that, that's how I can affect real change in the world. And it's funny because you've had had such a massive influence on my life, but probably a year and a half maybe ish into me knowing ClickFunnels, I was like, "Man, Russell's doing it all wrong." I had this thing of, if Russell would communicate more about stuff besides funnels, he would have a bigger impact. I had this limited belief of, this is the only way you can influence and impact people, is by going out there and actually speaking to them. But that's my superpower and my gift. In the book, Francisco was the one I think that best represents my style of trying to go out and do things. I find it interesting by Hank Rearden with you… Russell: I'm the same way. I would rather be in here building funnels, doing some stuff. There's scenes of Hank in the book where he's sitting there looking out over the factories at night and he sees, he watches the steel being poured, it's glowing. He's enjoying that. For me, it's similar where I do the stage thing and things like that. I get less value… interactions are hard, but I spend a lot of time on social media at night, just looking at the people that I know are in our world and watching what they're doing because that's me watching the steel. My mission is not to go teach people how to do what you do. I'm giving you a blow horn so you can go do it. That's more fascinating to me to sit back and explain to my wife. Events drive her crazy because then it'll happen and it'll get done and then I scurry off and I don't want to talk to anybody. I sit in the room and I just watch what people takeaways and then who they're talking to. I spend a lot of time just watching. That's for me like looking over the steel and being like, I gave them a trumpet or I gave them a blow horn and now their messages are going out there and I can just watch it. So for me, I don't want to teach personal development and this and that, but I want to empower or give tools or whatever tools there are so that you can and whoever all the other influencers are to be able to do those things. Does that makes sense? I'm an amplifier. I'm an amplifier of other people's messages and my message just happens to be, "Here's the amplification that you need to amplify your message," and then letting everybody else go and do it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Nov 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 4 of 5 full 366 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome back to the 4th part of this interview series. We are getting near the end and the topics keep getting more interesting. In this episode you hear them talk about the influence their parents had on their lives in business. If they feel... Welcome back to the 4th part of this interview series. We are getting near the end and the topics keep getting more interesting. In this episode you hear them talk about the influence their parents had on their lives in business. If they feel misunderstood as entrepreneurs and how their ability to communicate might be able to change that. Russell explains how he realizes that Clickfunnels is a team effort and that’s what help him stay so grounded. Then they discuss what each liked most about the Atlas Shrugged book and what character they each associate with most. So tune into part 4 of this exciting interview! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. All right. I hope you guys have enjoyed the first three. We are moving into the fourth episode of our interview. My interview with Josh Forti talking about Atlas Shrugged. Again, during this series, we've been talking about religion and politics and all the things you're not supposed to talk about, but we've done it all through the lens of Atlas Shrugged, which I hope you've enjoyed and had a lot of fun with it. Hopefully it's made you want to go and actually read the Atlas Shrugged book, which I think would be really, really cool. With that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to start listening to part four of my interview with Josh Forti. Josh Forti: So, what did your parents do right for you? One of the things that I try to say, I try to say it a lot but I don't even say it enough. My parents have played a absolutely tremendous... I owe so much of who I am today to my parents indirectly in a lot of ways. My parents didn't teach me about money or things like that. That wasn't their gift, but the principles of hard work and family values, biting your tongue, even though it doesn't seem like I bite my tongue. Oh my gosh. Every day, right? Russell Brunson: It could be worse guys. Josh: Right. It could be way worse. Some people would love that, but you know, deescalating situations and having those... I owe so much of who I am to those. Yeah, they messed up in a lot of ways like you said, but what were some of the things that your parents did right? What are the things that you remember from your parents? Russell: Yeah. I love my parents. I was very blessed with my parents, for sure. I don't think my dad was super engaged when we were younger just because he was in the phase where, like trying to figure things out and make money. It was different back then. Josh: Is he an entrepreneur? Russell: Yeah. He also had a job, but he did side business so he was always trying to figure things out. I saw him doing these things. I saw the job he didn't love and then I saw him doing stuff he did love and I watched him work really hard. Then when I started wrestling, I saw my dad... That became the thing that me and him connected with which meant the world to me and it was so important to him. What's cool was that my dad showed up to every wrestling practice. He came to every single match. His day job was State Farm insurance, he built up his book of business where by the time I was wrestling, he was able to take off as much as he wanted. It ran itself and he was making money and had residual income. I remember my dad was the only one, as soon as wrestling practice got done, my dad would walk in and we would do practice afterwards. Never missed a match. He was always there. I remember just thinking, I want to make sure I have a business or something like my dad was for me. That was so important to me. Like I said, he wasn't super around when we were younger and I think he struggled because of the younger kids, which I understand. That phase in my life, he was there and my best friend and it was just, it was awesome. I love that and I've been trying to have my kids now. Especially at times where maybe I wasn't as good of a dad, I was too busy. I'm trying to connect more. That was my dad for sure. Then my mom, for me she was just... I wouldn't say I'm a people pleaser but I'm very much an achiever. I think when I started wrestling and I saw my dad got closer to me and then I got a win and I saw him get excited, I wanted to win because I wanted to impress my dad. To this day, I think I still have that. Part of the reason I'm in this business and I'm doing stuff is I love when my dad sees it. There's something, I love impressing him. To this day I love that win. With my mom, she loved me even when I didn't win. that was something that was so foreign to me. I remember I'd be cutting away for wrestling, I hadn't eaten for three days. I'd be so tired, so miserable. She'd come down and sneak in my room, bringing me food. I'm like, "Mom, I can't eat. I'm not going to make weight." She's like, "Why don't you just quit then? You don't need to do this." She was the opposite of my dad. She loved me no matter what and didn't care that I was trying to win or succeed. Couldn't care less. She loved me just because I was me. That was weird but so cool as well. It's both those principles, it's something I've tried to weave in. I've got two different sides I'm trying to weave that into my kids. Again, so far from perfect, but I think those are the two things that meant the world to me, that I'm super grateful for them those things for me because I still remember those things now. Josh: So there is... Which by the way, that's awesome. There's a lot of people in this world that are growing up without a dad, without a mom. It's interesting because I think a lot of my social media posts, I kind of come across sometimes like the heartless a-hole, you know what I mean? A little bit, they're like, "Josh!" You know what I mean? You talk about, take personal responsibility for your life, everybody can do anything. If you're broke it's your fault, that's one of my favorite sayings. If you're broke in America it's your fault, right? They're like, "Josh, you don't understand. You grew up and your parents are still married. Not only do you have parents, they're still together and they still actually love each other." It's not even necessarily they're still together. You're like a percentage of the percentage of the percentage in a lot of ways. I don't even know what question I'm asking you, but what would you do? Where could somebody find that? What can we do as a society or just as entrepreneurs, as producers to help those people? I feel like that's a really big need. Russell: For sure. Josh: One of my big struggles with this is I always want to point it back to the church. I had a really awakening, come-to-Jesus moment back when I posted, this is probably a month ago or so. I posted it on Instagram actually. I think you liked it, actually, so I know you saw it. I said, "Defund the media, defund fear, defund career politicians. Fund orphanages, churches and schools." I posted it on Facebook and I posted it on Instagram, and I was shocked at how many people were like, "Dude. Fund the churches? They're a bunch of pedophile people there too." So many people had such this negative view of the church. I grew up in the church, that's what I knew. How I knew how family works is because I saw our own family and then I saw the church family and I saw the community and how the church was involved in the community. The church that I went to, after I moved out Grable, Indiana, I worked three doors down from it and that's where people went to vote was in their gym. And the fair, that's where people parked. The church was such an integral part... that word, a part of the community. So when I saw all these people that had this negative view of the church, that broke my heart because that was my solution. There are so many things. Like, if you don't have a dad, you can go to the church. If you don't have this, you can go to the church. Said, "What?" If that's your answer, that's cool, but how can we as producers of society and the people that are going out there and making the money, how can we help those that don't have what you and I had? Russell: It's interesting. What Mormons believe is the family is the central everything. That's God's plan. Husband and wife starts a family. That's an eternal principle, right? If you look at the adversary, Satan, whatever you want to call him, his job, if he can destroy the family, everything falls apart. That's the war we're in right now. We think we're in a lot of different wars. The war we are in is, Satan is attacking families. That's it. Josh: Okay. I want you to finish this, I have to say this though. Guys, and this is not Russell saying this, this is me. This is why I hate the Black Lives Matter organization. Not movement, the organization so much. Because, their whole principle is bragging about the traditional family values. Anyway, I'm not speaking for Russell. Russell: Yeah, if you Google "The Family: A Proclamation to the World," you'll see my beliefs on family. We have it printed out eight foot on my wall in my house. That's my belief. Family is central, everything. So, Satan, the way he destroys societies and nations and this world is, destroy the family. So when you see families are broken, they're single mothers and single fathers, it's heartbreaking. I think it's the saddest thing in the world. I don't know the right way to solve it. I do know that it's vitally important. I remember first time I met Tony Robbins and started learning from him, one of the principles he talked about in relationships is masculine, feminine energy. The masculine and feminine is key to a relationship. I could go on for four hours just on masculine and feminine. Oh, that's the most fascinating topic in the world. If you ever see how Tony fixes relationships, you look at the traditional view of traditional counseling, there's a problem. They're like, "What's the symptom of the problem?" They try to solve the symptom of the problem and counseling takes years because it's a symptom of the problem. All the issues, they're all symptoms of problems. The real problem is when there's a masculine and a feminine, and it doesn't matter. Again, this is true with gay, straight, doesn't matter. Feminine, masculine energy. You take a masculine and a feminine and that polar opposite, that magnetism, magnetize together, right? That's what creates attraction, passion, everything. What happens is you have a masculine and feminine, they're attracted together. That's how you start. That's how any relationship starts. Right? Then you look at people getting married. It was interesting because what Tony talked about, he said you look at typically in a relationship, there's what they call the seven-year itch, and why is that? He talks about the way the feminine causes change is... Some day I want to write a book on this. I don't know perfectly enough to- Josh: Russell needs to become a writer. My word… Russell: Yeah, I've got a lot of books to write. But, this is how it works in traditional marriage. Masculine and feminine. What happens is one of the ways that feminine causes change is they criticize, right? I see this with my wife, with friends, with girls. If they want their friend to change their hair they don't say, "Hey, you should get a haircut." They'll criticize to try to cause change. Right? What happens is that a feminine- Josh: Yo, wow. That's so true. Interesting stuff. Russell: Yeah. That's just one example of- Josh: Dave! Russell: Feminine… Josh: Right, right. Russell: So, feminine and masculine come together. This is just an example. They'll start criticizing the man, but a masculine man doesn't care, it bounces off him. Like, "Okay. Okay." Right? What happens after seven years of that happening? Eventually instead of it balancing off of you, which is the masculine response, you start taking it personally. Like, "Oh." As soon as you take it personally, guess what happens? You are shifting physically from your masculine into a feminine. You start shifting and what happens is you shift from masculine to feminine and boom, the attraction breaks, and it starts falling apart. And then all the other problems start happening. The problem isn't solving the fact that you leave the toilet seat up or that you don't communicate well. The problem is that the masculine-feminine attraction is broken. If you fix the masculine and feminine, you can make men become men and women become women. Attraction comes back, all the other symptoms disappear. It's fascinating. That's from a marriage, family, relationship standpoint. Josh: Okay. I want to- Russell: I'm telling this because I want to talk about this from the family with kids in a minute, but yes. Josh: Okay. But I want you to now give me another example that Tony Robbins has said, because what you made it sound like there is that the way the woman does something is the thing that's causing the bond. I know that's not what you meant. Russell: Oh, it could be, yeah. That's- Josh: I just wanted to do that clarification. Russell: It's the same thing with the men where the men are responding over and over, where women now become defensive and they become more masculine and it's the other way. Yeah. Sorry. That's not the only example. I was just- Josh: Right. Russell: The one- Josh: I just wanted to make sure we clarify that because I know thing's have been taken out of context before. Russell: Somebody is going to be angry at me. I apologize. I'm stupid. I get it. But conceptually, does that make sense? It's the break of the masculine and feminine that causes the split, which causes the disharmony. And if you bring the masculine and feminine together, I think that's what causes attraction and causes passion and causes all these things. I look at my life when we were struggling in our marriage, it's because I'm showing up feminine. When I show masculine, everything's great. Where my wife comes in masculine and I'm masculine, we butt heads, it's fascinating. Anyway, I don't want to get deep into this because there's so much stuff. There's another show on this, because you look at this thing. You've got a family and the mother and father split and then there's kids who go with either the mother or the father, and now what they have is they've got either a very masculine person they're learning from or feminine, but they don't see both. And so it shifts them and it shifts their relationship. So many problems. I think the way we help the most, or can help the most is... Hormozi does this. Alex Hormozi does this. He donates his money to... Do you remember the name of the charity? He got our first Two Heart award. It's afterschool kids. These kids, like men who... There's these kids trying to play basketball or lift weights or whatever, who don't have masculine energy in their life. They come and they donate their time and they help the kids to brig masculinity. All of us, we need male and female perspectives. Josh: Right. Russell: It's designed to have those things together. When you lose one of them, it's a tragedy. I think the way we can start helping is, how do we bring programs where they can see masculine energy and see the way to make it a positive and not a negative thing? A lot of times, all they know is masculine energy left and oftentimes there's a lot of anger between the people. They hear talking trash about the spouse and talking trash about these traits which are traits that are essential for them to develop. I don't know. I don't know if that's the right answer or not, but I feel like that's how we could help those things. Help them understand, like the kids who don't have a father or a mother. They need that energy in their life to understand it, to be able to... I don't know. Josh: Okay. This is seemingly unrelated to this, but I think that I can tie it back in because it's a question that I think fits in here. I'm going to start with a super-basic question, which I think the answer is obvious, but we'll go down this road. Do you feel misunderstood as an entrepreneur? Russell: I did early on, less so now. Josh: Why is that? Russell: When I was got started... Entrepreneurship has become more of a cool thing in the last decades. Since Shark Tank and stuff. Back when I first started it wasn't. Everyone was confused. Like, "Why would you do that?" It is cooler. Also, I think the more you talk, the more you either alienate people or you attract people, and I think a lot of the people who I have alienated have been alienated and I think they are attracted by attractive. So my bubble of people around me are people who understand this lingo, who relate to it. So it's less hard now than it was initially. Josh: I believe that one of my superpower... Your superpower, your art, your format is marketing and funnels, funnels specifically. That's what you do. I feel you could just sit there for hours and hours and days and forever for the rest of, all of time. Russell: Yes. I love it. Josh: My superpower thing that I like to do is this. Communication. I love constructing words in a way that people can understand. I'm sure not, but the Kanye West interview that Joe Rogan just did three days ago. Russell: I've heard about him… Josh: This has been a long awaited episode. No one thought it was ever going to happen because it was teased and it wasn't, didn't happen. Finally happens. So I see this, I had no idea what's coming. It drops and I'm a huge fan of Joe Rogan and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing!" I sit down and I look online and all these people are like, "Terrible interview. Not worth your time. Couldn't get past the first 20 minutes." Anything like that. I'm like, what? So I go and the first 20 minutes are kind of like, eh whatever. I get done with this three-hour interview. It was like, top three interviews of all time. What's interesting is... Do you know Kanye? Like, how Kanye communicates at all?   Russell: No.   Josh: Okay, there's so many references that I want to use that you won't get. Kanye sees the world fundamentally differently and how Joe describes it in there and the way that I described it is... You wouldn't know this, like I said, because it's psychedelic, it's like a drug or whatever. But imagine being on a psychedelic drug in a small format at all times. That's how his mind works. He sees everything, it's like expanded. So even Kanye said, "The reason I have such a hard time communicating sometimes is because I see things in three-dimensional and then I have to put them into a two-dimensional conversation." I'm not trying to compare myself the way I think to the way that Kanye thinks, ubt this concept of people think he's beating around the bush when really he's just trying to explain something. One of the things I love doing is taking a concept that and figuring out how to describe it in a way that the average person can understand. I live in a different world, just like you live in a different world than the average person does. I live in a different world and that is by choice. I do not see the world the way that most people do. I intentionally do not want to see the world the way that other people do. Everything that I do, I will intentionally engineer where my life is different than the average person because I want to see the world differently, but I want to be able to communicate that in a way that they can understand. My question is, do you think that there's a lot of great ideas stuck inside of producer's heads that if more people understood them and thought like that, we could change the world for the better? But because they're stuck in their head and that person doesn't know how to communicate it well, or is not focused on that, that that effect never happens. Russell: Gotcha. Yes. That's why I think for me the study, this art of funnels and copywriting and story does, is so fascinating. That's what it is, right? I always pitch, like when we have an idea, in my head it's like this big granite block, right? It's like, this is the idea and give it to somebody, like, "This is the idea." You're like, "I don't get it." Right? Josh: Right. Russell: Then you start thinking about, who is it? Start chiseling away at the stone. You start chiseling, chiseling, and eventually you have this amazing statue. This thing that people can see and they can understand and they gravitate towards. I feel it's the same thing with communication or with any kind of idea you're trying to sell. The funnel is one thing. Right now, like, "Hey, you should buy my coaching programs." Why? Like, "Ah, it's too big." I need to take them to a path, simplify that. So there's a step-by-step process which is like chiseling away. Then inside each step of the process, there's the words and the stories, the things you communicate to simplify it to get more and more fine tuned. That's why for me, when we create a funnel and we launch it, it's like taking this big granite block and chiseling it down to now something that somebody can come in on the side of it go through a process. By the time they're done at the end, they're going to get some money, they're going to get a product and something's going to change for them. I think that's what marketing is. it's that process of trying to simplify the message. I think a hundred percent, that's why most ideas don't get out. I don't know, how many times have you had... This kind of comes back to talking about, who knows, an hour or two ago too, but four or five people get the same idea, but then one person executes on it. It's like the person who understands the communication the best is the one typically who gets it out, right? How much of your life or my life has been focused on the communication? I don't necessarily like that part as much. It's not my favorite part, but it's such an essential tool. I remember when I got in this game and I was trying to sell my very first product, Zip Brander. I put it up, I had a picture of it, Buy Now button and tried to send traffic, and nobody bought it. Someone's like, "Well, you need a headline," so I'm like, okay. So I put a headline. "Tell us what this does." So I found some sites that kind of modeled what they did and the people started buying it. It was learning that process of, how do you communicate? I remember thinking, I never want to learn how to write copy. That's what we all thought back then. "I don't want to write copy, I don't want to do that. That sounds horrible." I wanted to hire someone, but the people I tried to hire was expensive, it was 10 to $20,000 for a sales letter. I couldn't afford it, so I'm like, I have to learn this art and how to communicate. I'm so grateful because that's how everything we built has been, off the communication of an idea, and doing it in a way that gets people to move. Josh: How do you decide what you're going to communicate? You have a lot of ideas in your head and you have a lot of different thoughts on everything and you choose to share funnels and marketing primarily. Then you have some religion in there, which I would say probably is number two, maybe ish, of what you communicate. But that's it. How do you decide... Russell: The battles I want to choose? Josh: Yeah. Russell: What battles? That's a good question. I think part of what's interesting, like why did I want to do this interview? I read the book, it was fascinating. I don't know the answers and I thought this would be a fun way to talk it out loud. This is fascinating. Funnels are fascinating to me because I can apply it to so many things. You know when I talk a lot about wrestling, but not the community you bump into but for wrestling, I talk about that. I think it's just the ideas that fascinate me that I feel have the most fluidity and can do the most. Again, as an introverted person, I'll typically go out and have conversations with people as much as I can, but when I find something that does cause and effect, that's why I practice telling my story so many times and I'll do a podcast. I know now when I'm on stage in front of 9,000 people, the stories can get people to move because I practice it. So I think it's putting a lot of things out in the water and then seeing what things people relate to, and then I go deeper on the ones that are like, "Okay, this one had an impact." There's a lot of stuff. I remember in first version Dotcom Secrets, there were seven or eight chapters more that never got published. I was going to publish… Josh: Do you have copies of this? Russell: Yeah. It was like, all my best stuff at the time that I knew that I was going to publish it and it was all in the book. I remember I heard an interview with Tim Ferriss and Ryan Holiday... Ryan Holiday at the time and they were both talking... Anyway, they were talking about their books. Both of them said that when they write a typical book... You know, Tim Ferris's books are like this fat… My first draft was like, twice as big. It's like, to make your book go from good to great, it's not adding more. It's cutting. Like, I cut two thirds of my book to give you this one. I think it was Ryan said the same thing. The first draft is usually twice as big as the final one. Then the next section, it's cut, cut, cut, cut. I remember going back to Dotcom Secrets that night and I was like, "Okay, based on that, what would I cut and how would that do?" I cut seven chapters out and after I was done, I was so scared because I love these things, but those things aren't that important to get people what they need to actually be successful. Some of those things ended up being in Dotcom Secrets and Expert Secrets, and different places, but yeah. I wonder how that first version- Josh: I was going to say, I wonder if she just published the first day or if she had a 2,700 page book and cut something out of it. That's crazy. Okay. Back to the question in the car, and I want to tie this back to the book. How has growing a multi-hundred million dollar, making hundreds of millions of dollars having a roughly billion-dollar company, being the CEO of 400 employees, how has that changed your perspective of the world? Russell: So many things I could respond. I think there was a season of my life where I thought that if I was going to create something, if I was going to do something, the way I was going to do it, by me. Does that makes sense? Josh: Yeah. Russell: In fact, if you look at my history, the first decade of business, the businesses were about me. They were me. I was the sole owner, the sole person. On this journey, when we started, it was so different. It was like, what's the team look like? Todd was my first time I had a partner. That was so scary for me. Then it's been the greatest thing I possibly could have done. Right? Then we brought in other partners and then employees and stuff. I don't know. It's been fascinating just realizing that to build this, it wasn't about me. It was about... I don't know, just that whole thing. I think anything great, a lot of times there's a person that gets credit for it. Like, Elon Musk gets credit because whatever or Bill Gates or whoever the people are, they get the credit for it. You start really seeing how many people are involved to make something amazing. You know what I mean? I think that's the biggest thing for me as I started growing it. It's frustrating. Not frustrating for me. I enjoy it. People are always asking, "Russell invented ClickFunnels." I literally don't know how to code anything. There's not one dot of code in that word. Maybe once I leaned over Todd's shoulder, put a button in that and he had to delete it. I think it's cool that you see how many... Before Funnel Hacking Live, every time we start we bring our whole team together. I'm the one who's on stage, but I am fully aware that it is not me. This is us. If it wasn't for this team and these people, all you guys, all your contribution, this was impossible. I want to always ground that because I think sometimes the leader or whoever gets a big head where they think it's them. I see that with a lot of people who are on big stages where they still drink their own Kool-Aid so they think it's them. That's my shift in the world, just understanding the great things, the things that we remember. The things that are legacies that go on and on and on. There may be a head or a person that the branding tied too, but there's this group of people that created something amazing. That's… know what I mean? Josh: How do you stay grounded? I am a huge fan of Russell because for me, you're the person I look up to as not just, hey, you taught me how to make a lot of money, but I want to have the character that you have. I don't want to have... I look at Grant Cardone. You don't have to talk smack about Grant Cardone, but I can. Grant Cardone is really, really full of himself. Don't get me wrong. I learned a lot from Graham Cardone, especially about money. He's changed my perspective about a lot of things. I'm eternally grateful for that, but if I grew up to be Grant Cardone, where that was the focus.., I mean, I watched him, I was there at the stadium down in Miami or whatever. It was all about him. I think he even got up on stage and was like, "Oh yeah, everybody says Russell is the greatest salesman, but I'm the one that packed the house." I'm like, dude! You know what I'm saying? Why? Why is that necessary? How do you stay grounded? It's so fascinating to me to watch different types of people. I know Tai Lopez for example, for awhile there, it was all about Tai and now he's gone more behind the scenes, but each person that I watch whether it's Tai or Gary or Grant, they all have a different way about them. You have your way about them. The one that I see as the most grounded, humble... There's nobody that's looking at you. You get up on a stage and you're like, "Oh yeah, I'm Russell!" You know what I mean? Russell: Everyone awkwardly, like, "Yay." Josh: Right. Then you walk up and Grant's like... But you, it's just yeah, it's that awkward, "Hey, I'm just over here." How are you grounded in that? How do you not let it get to your head? Because it would be so easy for you to get wrapped up in your own head. Russell: Someone told me it's because of my wife. They said, "If you'd married anybody else, your head would be so big." Josh: I met your wife for the first time today. I mean, we had crossed paths, but I said when you were getting your haircut, "So what's it like being married to Russell?" She goes, "Hes just the sixth child of mine." I was like, oh boy. The big kid. Russell: That's awesome. I think I would say it's two things. We kind of talked about this earlier, but I'll tie back to it. The first one is that I am fully aware that these ideas are not mine. I didn't invent the funnel. I didn't invent any of this stuff. All I know is that I was on a path, in a journey. I was given the thing and the next thing, and I was freaking out and I was putting them together. That's part of it. This stuff's not mine. It's stuff that was given to me and tested and so I'm so grateful for that. It's never me like, "Oh, look what I invented." That's so annoying because it's not. Again, come back to these ideas, these thoughts, these desires and things that were given to us. I think that's the first part. The second part of it is, and I see this a lot in people in my world who, they had some success and then they're like, "This is my person. I made them a bajillion..." I hate that too. Like, you helped them in a piece but they did the work. I'm very careful to always when I'm talking about any of our success stories, I didn't make that person. We had this super-cool opportunity to be a piece to their journey. Right? We helped them give them some ideas and a tool, but they're the ones that killed. I don't know what it takes to build what they're building. I didn't do that. They did that. I'm grateful that they did and I'm even more grateful that I got to be a little piece of that. I got to be part of that journey. I got to see that and just have the impact of, oh my gosh. Because I killed myself and wrote those books and because Todd killed himself and wrote software and I was able to communicate it, they're able to do this thing and it's not all me. I'm fully aware it's not all me. I know what every entrepreneur has to go through to be successful and it's not a mentor who gives you everything. It's just a lot of people who are a piece. I've had mentors who gave me a piece that I'm so grateful for, but then they try to take all the credit, like, "Oh, this is when..." I hate that too. So I think those two sides. Number one is again, I don't think these ideas are something that I came up with. They were given to me and I was a good steward of them because I was able to aggregate and there's the thing. The number two is just my belief that I didn't help anyone. Even when you said, "You and Katie," I felt awkward. I didn't do anything. Josh: Right. Russell: Luckily some of the stuff resonated with you and it was a little piece of your journey. I'm so grateful for that. The fact, to see you do stuff now, it's so much fun for me to watch you. Just knowing, "Man, because he bumped into me, maybe something happened and now he's doing this stuff and this work and it's so cool seeing how you're impacting people." I think those are the reasons why I don’t think my head gets big, because I don't think it's me. I'm grateful that I get to be a piece of it, of the journey, but I'm not the creator of it. Josh: All right. I want to loop back to the book. Russell: Go ahead. Can we just read it? You guys want us to read it to you? Josh: Yeah. What was the thing that fascinated you about it though? When you've asked me, you were like, "Dude, I read it and I'm geeking out about it, I just want to geek out about it." What about it had you so fascinated? What did you want to geek out about it? I have a question that I want to ask later on about it, but what was the thing that just made you geek? Russell: There are a lot of things. I think the biggest thing that I was really excited, we talked about earlier was just… The biggest thing earlier was just this cons-... Again, for those of you who are tuning in late in here, there's the whole, it talks about greed. Right? And that concept of greed versus charity. Again, the book very much is like, greed is good, it's the thing that causes production and you should care about yourself and then good things will happen, it will create jobs and everything else will take care of as long as you're caring most about yourself. Which I thought was kind of cool but then also I had the other side with my beliefs in Christ and Christianity and all these things like that, where it's just like, how does that reconcile with faith, hope, charity and love, and serving everybody else? That's probably the thing that got me the most. I think about that a lot, especially in politics. Again, I'm not deep into politics, I'm not going to talk about who I'm voting for, not voting for, it doesn't matter. But I see that on both sides. I feel like on the Republican side you see a lot of this stuff, like this. Then on the Democrat side, you see a lot of the charity stuff. Again, in my notes I wrote this actually initially, because I wanted to talk about this. I'm a big believer that there's not a right and wrong. There's good in both sides. Josh: There's not a right or wrong side. Russell: Yeah. Things are messed up on both sides. It's how the world works. Satan, there's this eternal struggle between God and Satan and Christ, this is always happening. So there's two sides and there's God-like principles and things on the right that are amazing and then there's Satan that's twisting things and jacking them up. Same thing on both sides. I see everyone fighting tooth and nail and I bet you, if we all sat down, the majority of all issues we'd all agree on. But then it's these fringe things that causes so much hatred and fighting and just drives me crazy. I think that this book is the perfect example of what I believe so much in some of these principles, but there's also the opposite principles that I also believe in and they're both right. If you missed the beginning part of the interview, we talked more about that but the greed, the growth and contribution, that transition is the key that just fascinates me. Josh: Yeah. What parts of the book contradicted the most with your faith? What part of the books did you have the hardest time with because of your faith? Russell: Yeah. The producers in the book, the minds, the people that I connect with, because I self-identify as a producer, someone who's obsessed with production and creating. That’s why I relate with Hank Rearden, Dagny, all these people are cut from my same cloth. It's as they're growing this stuff that they didn't give back, that they didn't... That's the thing. I felt like they weren't rounded out characters and that's the biggest thing for me. The first half of the book, I want to be Hank Rearden. He's fricking the man. Like yes, that's all I want to be. I wanted to see him have that change of heart where he's Christ-like and he gives of his own free will. Not because the government came with the gun and told him he's got to pay taxes. I wanted to see his character develop and realize that, "Oh my gosh, I should be serving people because I love them. Not because of the government's force." That's the piece that I wish. Josh: It never took that turn. The book, you almost expected it and then it didn't happen. Russell: It got worse and worse and worse and then they waited until just everything... People were dying, everything collapses and then the lights in the yurt go out, wooh, and they're like, "Okay, now we can come back and build." Josh: Now we can go back and build, but even when they come back and build, it was built by our new law of basically... Actually, one of the things that's fascinating about that was... Gosh, it was towards the end. Was it Galt? I think it was Galt. Yeah, I think it was during his speech when he was like, "The minds society, we gave all this stuff to you guys basically." Trying to be like God there, but every day, we created all this stuff, we created these jobs, we created these resources. We gave it to you and all we wanted from you guys was for you to let us be in our own head. Let us, our minds be free and not be controlled by anything else. You took all that and not only did you take it all, then you said, "No, you're bad and we're going to take that away too. So we're all going on strike because of that." You relate to that so much and then it's like, yes! Then they explained how they live and it's like, you expect them to have that change of heart rather, but no. It's because we are amazing and because we are the great minds and we must live by this code. It has nothing to do with actually giving back or actually contributing to society. It was like they didn't care about contributing to society. It just happened to happen. Russell: Yeah. Which is cool, which is why again, governments should let producers produce because the byproduct is really good. Josh: Right. Russell: For everybody. So that part is so much I relate to. Part of this is probably because Ayn Rand didn't believe in God. You know what I mean? That wasn't part of her values and so it's tough because she weaved that... I just wish at the end of the book, it would have been like, and then Hank Rearden realized that he could help all these people himself and so he built orphanages and changed all these kids' lives. Like, yes! That would have been amazing. He found about OUR and he went and donated money to save all these children. Josh: Right. Russell: But he did it of his own free will because he had that change of heart. I don't want to die at the end of my days and... I produced some great jobs, but I didn't care about people. I feel like that missed the mark. Josh: Hank Rearden you say is the person you related to really most in the book? Russell: Yeah, I think so. I wanted to be Francisco though, he was pretty sweet. Josh: Who do you think I related to most in the book? Russell: Oh. Who was it? Josh: It was a relatively main one. You were close. Russell: Oh, was it Francisco? Josh: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Russell: He was cool. Josh: Right from the beginning he fascinated me. I knew right when, the plot twist of where he ran off and became the playboy or picture, he was obviously a playboy or whatever. I knew right then and there. I don't know what the plot, I don't know what the connection is but I know this is going to come back around and it's not going to be how it seems. The mind doesn't shift and then he stays in the scene or whatever. He fascinated me because, or he strikes me as someone... Hank Rearden didn't care about the crowds. He did not at all. He hated going to the wedding. It was by force that his wife drug him out there that one time. It was always, "I just want to work in my office." I'm actually not like that. I am actually much more the... I do like the crowds, but I don't like the crowds because I need praise. Don't get me wrong, I like being on stage and doing this type of stuff or whatever, but for me, I like the crowds because I love people. It's funny because I actually don't get along with a lot of people in real life. Whenever I go to the airport, I'm like, I will pay whatever it takes. Put me on a plane first, the least amount of people I have to deal with, whatever. I don't want to have to interact with people that I don't want to interact with. But I love studying and understanding people's minds. For me, one of the reasons I am so fascinated by Donald Trump is because of how he can control the crowds. You look at his rallies. Dude, you can't ignore them. They're just huge. My fiance's parents, or her mom and Kirby went yesterday, I think it was last night, to Omaha. 29,000 people showed up in the bitter cold of Omaha, a last-minute notice. That type of control or not even control, but that type of influence to be able to go through, what is it that makes people go and do that? So Francisco in the book, he was the partier guy and he went and he was with the crowds and he was very good with words and articulated, but he sold me at that wedding. I'm telling you. Russell: That was good. Josh: To me, there's more than two ways, but super simplified down, there's two ways to influence people. There's one, which is the indirect, which is build a software company, it's build a product, it's build an iPhone. You're not directly influencing them with your words or whatever, but it's influencing their behavior by creating a product, by creating a service that's going to go out and change the world. Then the other way is to actually go out there and change them with your words. That's why Jesus, for example, Jesus didn't build the product. He did it through His words kind of, sort of, but to me that's so fascinating. If I can figure out how to do that, that's how I can affect real change in the world. And it's funny because you've had had such a massive influence on my life, but probably a year and a half maybe ish into me knowing ClickFunnels, I was like, "Man, Russell's doing it all wrong." I had this thing of, if Russell would communicate more about stuff besides funnels, he would have a bigger impact. I had this limited belief of, this is the only way you can influence and impact people, is by going out there and actually speaking to them. But that's my superpower and my gift. In the book, Francisco was the one I think that best represents my style of trying to go out and do things. I find it interesting by Hank Rearden with you… Russell: I'm the same way. I would rather be in here building funnels, doing some stuff. There's scenes of Hank in the book where he's sitting there looking out over the factories at night and he sees, he watches the steel being poured, it's glowing. He's enjoying that. For me, it's similar where I do the stage thing and things like that. I get less value… interactions are hard, but I spend a lot of time on social media at night, just looking at the people that I know are in our world and watching what they're doing because that's me watching the steel. My mission is not to go teach people how to do what you do. I'm giving you a blow horn so you can go do it. That's more fascinating to me to sit back and explain to my wife. Events drive her crazy because then it'll happen and it'll get done and then I scurry off and I don't want to talk to anybody. I sit in the room and I just watch what people takeaways and then who they're talking to. I spend a lot of time just watching. That's for me like looking over the steel and being like, I gave them a trumpet or I gave them a blow horn and now their messages are going out there and I can just watch it. So for me, I don't want to teach personal development and this and that, but I want to empower or give tools or whatever tools there are so that you can and whoever all the other influencers are to be able to do those things. Does that makes sense? I'm an amplifier. I'm an amplifier of other people's messages and my message just happens to be, "Here's the amplification that you need to amplify your message," and then letting everybody else go and do it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome back to the 4th part of this interview series. We are getting near the end and the topics keep getting more interesting. In this episode you hear them talk about the influence their parents had on their lives in business. If they feel misunderstood as entrepreneurs and how their ability to communicate might be able to change that. Russell explains how he realizes that Clickfunnels is a team effort and that’s what help him stay so grounded. Then they discuss what each liked most about the Atlas Shrugged book and what character they each associate with most. So tune into part 4 of this exciting interview!

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What's up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. All right. I hope you guys have enjoyed the first three. We are moving into the fourth episode of our interview. My interview with Josh Forti talking about Atlas Shrugged. Again, during this series, we've been talking about religion and politics and all the things you're not supposed to talk about, but we've done it all through the lens of Atlas Shrugged, which I hope you've enjoyed and had a lot of fun with it. Hopefully it's made you want to go and actually read the Atlas Shrugged book, which I think would be really, really cool. With that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song. When we come back, you have a chance to start listening to part four of my interview with Josh Forti.

Josh Forti:

So, what did your parents do right for you? One of the things that I try to say, I try to say it a lot but I don't even say it enough. My parents have played a absolutely tremendous... I owe so much of who I am today to my parents indirectly in a lot of ways. My parents didn't teach me about money or things like that. That wasn't their gift, but the principles of hard work and family values, biting your tongue, even though it doesn't seem like I bite my tongue. Oh my gosh. Every day, right?

Russell Brunson:

It could be worse guys.

Josh:

Right. It could be way worse. Some people would love that, but you know, deescalating situations and having those... I owe so much of who I am to those. Yeah, they messed up in a lot of ways like you said, but what were some of the things that your parents did right? What are the things that you remember from your parents?

Russell:

Yeah. I love my parents. I was very blessed with my parents, for sure. I don't think my dad was super engaged when we were younger just because he was in the phase where, like trying to figure things out and make money. It was different back then.

Josh:

Is he an entrepreneur?

Russell:

Yeah. He also had a job, but he did side business so he was always trying to figure things out. I saw him doing these things. I saw the job he didn't love and then I saw him doing stuff he did love and I watched him work really hard. Then when I started wrestling, I saw my dad... That became the thing that me and him connected with which meant the world to me and it was so important to him. What's cool was that my dad showed up to every wrestling practice. He came to every single match. His day job was State Farm insurance, he built up his book of business where by the time I was wrestling, he was able to take off as much as he wanted. It ran itself and he was making money and had residual income. I remember my dad was the only one, as soon as wrestling practice got done, my dad would walk in and we would do practice afterwards.

Never missed a match. He was always there. I remember just thinking, I want to make sure I have a business or something like my dad was for me. That was so important to me. Like I said, he wasn't super around when we were younger and I think he struggled because of the younger kids, which I understand. That phase in my life, he was there and my best friend and it was just, it was awesome. I love that and I've been trying to have my kids now. Especially at times where maybe I wasn't as good of a dad, I was too busy. I'm trying to connect more. That was my dad for sure.

Then my mom, for me she was just... I wouldn't say I'm a people pleaser but I'm very much an achiever. I think when I started wrestling and I saw my dad got closer to me and then I got a win and I saw him get excited, I wanted to win because I wanted to impress my dad. To this day, I think I still have that. Part of the reason I'm in this business and I'm doing stuff is I love when my dad sees it. There's something, I love impressing him. To this day I love that win.

With my mom, she loved me even when I didn't win. that was something that was so foreign to me. I remember I'd be cutting away for wrestling, I hadn't eaten for three days. I'd be so tired, so miserable. She'd come down and sneak in my room, bringing me food. I'm like, "Mom, I can't eat. I'm not going to make weight." She's like, "Why don't you just quit then? You don't need to do this." She was the opposite of my dad. She loved me no matter what and didn't care that I was trying to win or succeed. Couldn't care less. She loved me just because I was me. That was weird but so cool as well. It's both those principles, it's something I've tried to weave in. I've got two different sides I'm trying to weave that into my kids. Again, so far from perfect, but I think those are the two things that meant the world to me, that I'm super grateful for them those things for me because I still remember those things now.

Josh:

So there is... Which by the way, that's awesome. There's a lot of people in this world that are growing up without a dad, without a mom. It's interesting because I think a lot of my social media posts, I kind of come across sometimes like the heartless a-hole, you know what I mean? A little bit, they're like, "Josh!" You know what I mean? You talk about, take personal responsibility for your life, everybody can do anything. If you're broke it's your fault, that's one of my favorite sayings. If you're broke in America it's your fault, right? They're like, "Josh, you don't understand. You grew up and your parents are still married. Not only do you have parents, they're still together and they still actually love each other." It's not even necessarily they're still together. You're like a percentage of the percentage of the percentage in a lot of ways.

I don't even know what question I'm asking you, but what would you do? Where could somebody find that? What can we do as a society or just as entrepreneurs, as producers to help those people? I feel like that's a really big need.

Russell:

For sure.

Josh:

One of my big struggles with this is I always want to point it back to the church. I had a really awakening, come-to-Jesus moment back when I posted, this is probably a month ago or so. I posted it on Instagram actually. I think you liked it, actually, so I know you saw it. I said, "Defund the media, defund fear, defund career politicians. Fund orphanages, churches and schools." I posted it on Facebook and I posted it on Instagram, and I was shocked at how many people were like, "Dude. Fund the churches? They're a bunch of pedophile people there too." So many people had such this negative view of the church.

I grew up in the church, that's what I knew. How I knew how family works is because I saw our own family and then I saw the church family and I saw the community and how the church was involved in the community. The church that I went to, after I moved out Grable, Indiana, I worked three doors down from it and that's where people went to vote was in their gym. And the fair, that's where people parked. The church was such an integral part... that word, a part of the community.

So when I saw all these people that had this negative view of the church, that broke my heart because that was my solution. There are so many things. Like, if you don't have a dad, you can go to the church. If you don't have this, you can go to the church. Said, "What?" If that's your answer, that's cool, but how can we as producers of society and the people that are going out there and making the money, how can we help those that don't have what you and I had?

Russell:

It's interesting. What Mormons believe is the family is the central everything. That's God's plan. Husband and wife starts a family. That's an eternal principle, right? If you look at the adversary, Satan, whatever you want to call him, his job, if he can destroy the family, everything falls apart. That's the war we're in right now. We think we're in a lot of different wars. The war we are in is, Satan is attacking families. That's it.

Josh:

Okay. I want you to finish this, I have to say this though. Guys, and this is not Russell saying this, this is me. This is why I hate the Black Lives Matter organization. Not movement, the organization so much. Because, their whole principle is bragging about the traditional family values. Anyway, I'm not speaking for Russell.

Russell:

Yeah, if you Google "The Family: A Proclamation to the World," you'll see my beliefs on family. We have it printed out eight foot on my wall in my house. That's my belief. Family is central, everything. So, Satan, the way he destroys societies and nations and this world is, destroy the family. So when you see families are broken, they're single mothers and single fathers, it's heartbreaking. I think it's the saddest thing in the world.

I don't know the right way to solve it. I do know that it's vitally important. I remember first time I met Tony Robbins and started learning from him, one of the principles he talked about in relationships is masculine, feminine energy. The masculine and feminine is key to a relationship. I could go on for four hours just on masculine and feminine. Oh, that's the most fascinating topic in the world.

If you ever see how Tony fixes relationships, you look at the traditional view of traditional counseling, there's a problem. They're like, "What's the symptom of the problem?" They try to solve the symptom of the problem and counseling takes years because it's a symptom of the problem.

All the issues, they're all symptoms of problems. The real problem is when there's a masculine and a feminine, and it doesn't matter. Again, this is true with gay, straight, doesn't matter. Feminine, masculine energy. You take a masculine and a feminine and that polar opposite, that magnetism, magnetize together, right? That's what creates attraction, passion, everything. What happens is you have a masculine and feminine, they're attracted together. That's how you start. That's how any relationship starts. Right?

Then you look at people getting married. It was interesting because what Tony talked about, he said you look at typically in a relationship, there's what they call the seven-year itch, and why is that? He talks about the way the feminine causes change is... Some day I want to write a book on this. I don't know perfectly enough to-

Josh:

Russell needs to become a writer. My word…

Russell:

Yeah, I've got a lot of books to write. But, this is how it works in traditional marriage. Masculine and feminine. What happens is one of the ways that feminine causes change is they criticize, right? I see this with my wife, with friends, with girls. If they want their friend to change their hair they don't say, "Hey, you should get a haircut." They'll criticize to try to cause change. Right?

What happens is that a feminine-

Josh:

Yo, wow. That's so true. Interesting stuff.

Russell:

Yeah. That's just one example of-

Josh:

Dave!

Russell:

Feminine…

Josh:

Right, right.

Russell:

So, feminine and masculine come together. This is just an example. They'll start criticizing the man, but a masculine man doesn't care, it bounces off him. Like, "Okay. Okay." Right? What happens after seven years of that happening? Eventually instead of it balancing off of you, which is the masculine response, you start taking it personally. Like, "Oh."

As soon as you take it personally, guess what happens? You are shifting physically from your masculine into a feminine. You start shifting and what happens is you shift from masculine to feminine and boom, the attraction breaks, and it starts falling apart. And then all the other problems start happening.

The problem isn't solving the fact that you leave the toilet seat up or that you don't communicate well. The problem is that the masculine-feminine attraction is broken. If you fix the masculine and feminine, you can make men become men and women become women. Attraction comes back, all the other symptoms disappear. It's fascinating.

That's from a marriage, family, relationship standpoint.

Josh:

Okay. I want to-

Russell:

I'm telling this because I want to talk about this from the family with kids in a minute, but yes.

Josh:

Okay. But I want you to now give me another example that Tony Robbins has said, because what you made it sound like there is that the way the woman does something is the thing that's causing the bond. I know that's not what you meant.

Russell:

Oh, it could be, yeah. That's-

Josh:

I just wanted to do that clarification.

Russell:

It's the same thing with the men where the men are responding over and over, where women now become defensive and they become more masculine and it's the other way. Yeah. Sorry. That's not the only example. I was just-

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

The one-

Josh:

I just wanted to make sure we clarify that because I know thing's have been taken out of context before.

Russell:

Somebody is going to be angry at me. I apologize. I'm stupid. I get it. But conceptually, does that make sense? It's the break of the masculine and feminine that causes the split, which causes the disharmony. And if you bring the masculine and feminine together, I think that's what causes attraction and causes passion and causes all these things.

I look at my life when we were struggling in our marriage, it's because I'm showing up feminine. When I show masculine, everything's great. Where my wife comes in masculine and I'm masculine, we butt heads, it's fascinating. Anyway, I don't want to get deep into this because there's so much stuff.

There's another show on this, because you look at this thing. You've got a family and the mother and father split and then there's kids who go with either the mother or the father, and now what they have is they've got either a very masculine person they're learning from or feminine, but they don't see both. And so it shifts them and it shifts their relationship. So many problems.

I think the way we help the most, or can help the most is... Hormozi does this. Alex Hormozi does this. He donates his money to... Do you remember the name of the charity? He got our first Two Heart award. It's afterschool kids. These kids, like men who... There's these kids trying to play basketball or lift weights or whatever, who don't have masculine energy in their life. They come and they donate their time and they help the kids to brig masculinity. All of us, we need male and female perspectives.

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

It's designed to have those things together. When you lose one of them, it's a tragedy. I think the way we can start helping is, how do we bring programs where they can see masculine energy and see the way to make it a positive and not a negative thing? A lot of times, all they know is masculine energy left and oftentimes there's a lot of anger between the people. They hear talking trash about the spouse and talking trash about these traits which are traits that are essential for them to develop. I don't know. I don't know if that's the right answer or not, but I feel like that's how we could help those things. Help them understand, like the kids who don't have a father or a mother. They need that energy in their life to understand it, to be able to... I don't know.

Josh:

Okay. This is seemingly unrelated to this, but I think that I can tie it back in because it's a question that I think fits in here. I'm going to start with a super-basic question, which I think the answer is obvious, but we'll go down this road. Do you feel misunderstood as an entrepreneur?

Russell:

I did early on, less so now.

Josh:

Why is that?

Russell:

When I was got started... Entrepreneurship has become more of a cool thing in the last decades. Since Shark Tank and stuff. Back when I first started it wasn't. Everyone was confused. Like, "Why would you do that?" It is cooler.

Also, I think the more you talk, the more you either alienate people or you attract people, and I think a lot of the people who I have alienated have been alienated and I think they are attracted by attractive. So my bubble of people around me are people who understand this lingo, who relate to it. So it's less hard now than it was initially.

Josh:

I believe that one of my superpower... Your superpower, your art, your format is marketing and funnels, funnels specifically. That's what you do. I feel you could just sit there for hours and hours and days and forever for the rest of, all of time.

Russell:

Yes. I love it.

Josh:

My superpower thing that I like to do is this. Communication. I love constructing words in a way that people can understand. I'm sure not, but the Kanye West interview that Joe Rogan just did three days ago.

Russell:

I've heard about him…

Josh:

This has been a long awaited episode. No one thought it was ever going to happen because it was teased and it wasn't, didn't happen. Finally happens. So I see this, I had no idea what's coming. It drops and I'm a huge fan of Joe Rogan and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing!" I sit down and I look online and all these people are like, "Terrible interview. Not worth your time. Couldn't get past the first 20 minutes." Anything like that. I'm like, what?

So I go and the first 20 minutes are kind of like, eh whatever. I get done with this three-hour interview. It was like, top three interviews of all time. What's interesting is... Do you know Kanye? Like, how Kanye communicates at all?

 

Russell:

No.

 

Josh:

Okay, there's so many references that I want to use that you won't get. Kanye sees the world fundamentally differently and how Joe describes it in there and the way that I described it is... You wouldn't know this, like I said, because it's psychedelic, it's like a drug or whatever. But imagine being on a psychedelic drug in a small format at all times. That's how his mind works. He sees everything, it's like expanded.

So even Kanye said, "The reason I have such a hard time communicating sometimes is because I see things in three-dimensional and then I have to put them into a two-dimensional conversation." I'm not trying to compare myself the way I think to the way that Kanye thinks, ubt this concept of people think he's beating around the bush when really he's just trying to explain something.

One of the things I love doing is taking a concept that and figuring out how to describe it in a way that the average person can understand. I live in a different world, just like you live in a different world than the average person does. I live in a different world and that is by choice. I do not see the world the way that most people do. I intentionally do not want to see the world the way that other people do. Everything that I do, I will intentionally engineer where my life is different than the average person because I want to see the world differently, but I want to be able to communicate that in a way that they can understand.

My question is, do you think that there's a lot of great ideas stuck inside of producer's heads that if more people understood them and thought like that, we could change the world for the better? But because they're stuck in their head and that person doesn't know how to communicate it well, or is not focused on that, that that effect never happens.

Russell:

Gotcha. Yes. That's why I think for me the study, this art of funnels and copywriting and story does, is so fascinating. That's what it is, right? I always pitch, like when we have an idea, in my head it's like this big granite block, right? It's like, this is the idea and give it to somebody, like, "This is the idea." You're like, "I don't get it." Right?

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

Then you start thinking about, who is it? Start chiseling away at the stone. You start chiseling, chiseling, and eventually you have this amazing statue. This thing that people can see and they can understand and they gravitate towards. I feel it's the same thing with communication or with any kind of idea you're trying to sell.

The funnel is one thing. Right now, like, "Hey, you should buy my coaching programs." Why? Like, "Ah, it's too big." I need to take them to a path, simplify that. So there's a step-by-step process which is like chiseling away. Then inside each step of the process, there's the words and the stories, the things you communicate to simplify it to get more and more fine tuned. That's why for me, when we create a funnel and we launch it, it's like taking this big granite block and chiseling it down to now something that somebody can come in on the side of it go through a process. By the time they're done at the end, they're going to get some money, they're going to get a product and something's going to change for them. I think that's what marketing is. it's that process of trying to simplify the message. I think a hundred percent, that's why most ideas don't get out.

I don't know, how many times have you had... This kind of comes back to talking about, who knows, an hour or two ago too, but four or five people get the same idea, but then one person executes on it. It's like the person who understands the communication the best is the one typically who gets it out, right? How much of your life or my life has been focused on the communication? I don't necessarily like that part as much. It's not my favorite part, but it's such an essential tool.

I remember when I got in this game and I was trying to sell my very first product, Zip Brander. I put it up, I had a picture of it, Buy Now button and tried to send traffic, and nobody bought it. Someone's like, "Well, you need a headline," so I'm like, okay. So I put a headline. "Tell us what this does." So I found some sites that kind of modeled what they did and the people started buying it. It was learning that process of, how do you communicate? I remember thinking, I never want to learn how to write copy. That's what we all thought back then. "I don't want to write copy, I don't want to do that. That sounds horrible." I wanted to hire someone, but the people I tried to hire was expensive, it was 10 to $20,000 for a sales letter. I couldn't afford it, so I'm like, I have to learn this art and how to communicate. I'm so grateful because that's how everything we built has been, off the communication of an idea, and doing it in a way that gets people to move.

Josh:

How do you decide what you're going to communicate? You have a lot of ideas in your head and you have a lot of different thoughts on everything and you choose to share funnels and marketing primarily. Then you have some religion in there, which I would say probably is number two, maybe ish, of what you communicate. But that's it. How do you decide...

Russell:

The battles I want to choose?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

What battles? That's a good question. I think part of what's interesting, like why did I want to do this interview? I read the book, it was fascinating. I don't know the answers and I thought this would be a fun way to talk it out loud. This is fascinating. Funnels are fascinating to me because I can apply it to so many things. You know when I talk a lot about wrestling, but not the community you bump into but for wrestling, I talk about that.

I think it's just the ideas that fascinate me that I feel have the most fluidity and can do the most. Again, as an introverted person, I'll typically go out and have conversations with people as much as I can, but when I find something that does cause and effect, that's why I practice telling my story so many times and I'll do a podcast. I know now when I'm on stage in front of 9,000 people, the stories can get people to move because I practice it. So I think it's putting a lot of things out in the water and then seeing what things people relate to, and then I go deeper on the ones that are like, "Okay, this one had an impact."

There's a lot of stuff. I remember in first version Dotcom Secrets, there were seven or eight chapters more that never got published. I was going to publish…

Josh:

Do you have copies of this?

Russell:

Yeah. It was like, all my best stuff at the time that I knew that I was going to publish it and it was all in the book. I remember I heard an interview with Tim Ferriss and Ryan Holiday... Ryan Holiday at the time and they were both talking... Anyway, they were talking about their books. Both of them said that when they write a typical book... You know, Tim Ferris's books are like this fat…

My first draft was like, twice as big. It's like, to make your book go from good to great, it's not adding more. It's cutting. Like, I cut two thirds of my book to give you this one. I think it was Ryan said the same thing. The first draft is usually twice as big as the final one. Then the next section, it's cut, cut, cut, cut. I remember going back to Dotcom Secrets that night and I was like, "Okay, based on that, what would I cut and how would that do?" I cut seven chapters out and after I was done, I was so scared because I love these things, but those things aren't that important to get people what they need to actually be successful.

Some of those things ended up being in Dotcom Secrets and Expert Secrets, and different places, but yeah. I wonder how that first version-

Josh:

I was going to say, I wonder if she just published the first day or if she had a 2,700 page book and cut something out of it. That's crazy. Okay.

Back to the question in the car, and I want to tie this back to the book. How has growing a multi-hundred million dollar, making hundreds of millions of dollars having a roughly billion-dollar company, being the CEO of 400 employees, how has that changed your perspective of the world?

Russell:

So many things I could respond. I think there was a season of my life where I thought that if I was going to create something, if I was going to do something, the way I was going to do it, by me. Does that makes sense?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

In fact, if you look at my history, the first decade of business, the businesses were about me. They were me. I was the sole owner, the sole person.

On this journey, when we started, it was so different. It was like, what's the team look like? Todd was my first time I had a partner. That was so scary for me. Then it's been the greatest thing I possibly could have done. Right? Then we brought in other partners and then employees and stuff. I don't know. It's been fascinating just realizing that to build this, it wasn't about me. It was about... I don't know, just that whole thing.

I think anything great, a lot of times there's a person that gets credit for it. Like, Elon Musk gets credit because whatever or Bill Gates or whoever the people are, they get the credit for it. You start really seeing how many people are involved to make something amazing. You know what I mean? I think that's the biggest thing for me as I started growing it.

It's frustrating. Not frustrating for me. I enjoy it. People are always asking, "Russell invented ClickFunnels." I literally don't know how to code anything. There's not one dot of code in that word. Maybe once I leaned over Todd's shoulder, put a button in that and he had to delete it. I think it's cool that you see how many... Before Funnel Hacking Live, every time we start we bring our whole team together. I'm the one who's on stage, but I am fully aware that it is not me. This is us. If it wasn't for this team and these people, all you guys, all your contribution, this was impossible. I want to always ground that because I think sometimes the leader or whoever gets a big head where they think it's them. I see that with a lot of people who are on big stages where they still drink their own Kool-Aid so they think it's them.

That's my shift in the world, just understanding the great things, the things that we remember. The things that are legacies that go on and on and on. There may be a head or a person that the branding tied too, but there's this group of people that created something amazing. That's… know what I mean?

Josh:

How do you stay grounded? I am a huge fan of Russell because for me, you're the person I look up to as not just, hey, you taught me how to make a lot of money, but I want to have the character that you have. I don't want to have... I look at Grant Cardone. You don't have to talk smack about Grant Cardone, but I can. Grant Cardone is really, really full of himself.

Don't get me wrong. I learned a lot from Graham Cardone, especially about money. He's changed my perspective about a lot of things. I'm eternally grateful for that, but if I grew up to be Grant Cardone, where that was the focus.., I mean, I watched him, I was there at the stadium down in Miami or whatever. It was all about him. I think he even got up on stage and was like, "Oh yeah, everybody says Russell is the greatest salesman, but I'm the one that packed the house." I'm like, dude! You know what I'm saying? Why? Why is that necessary?

How do you stay grounded? It's so fascinating to me to watch different types of people. I know Tai Lopez for example, for awhile there, it was all about Tai and now he's gone more behind the scenes, but each person that I watch whether it's Tai or Gary or Grant, they all have a different way about them. You have your way about them.

The one that I see as the most grounded, humble... There's nobody that's looking at you. You get up on a stage and you're like, "Oh yeah, I'm Russell!" You know what I mean?

Russell:

Everyone awkwardly, like, "Yay."

Josh:

Right. Then you walk up and Grant's like... But you, it's just yeah, it's that awkward, "Hey, I'm just over here." How are you grounded in that? How do you not let it get to your head? Because it would be so easy for you to get wrapped up in your own head.

Russell:

Someone told me it's because of my wife. They said, "If you'd married anybody else, your head would be so big."

Josh:

I met your wife for the first time today. I mean, we had crossed paths, but I said when you were getting your haircut, "So what's it like being married to Russell?" She goes, "Hes just the sixth child of mine." I was like, oh boy. The big kid.

Russell:

That's awesome.

I think I would say it's two things. We kind of talked about this earlier, but I'll tie back to it. The first one is that I am fully aware that these ideas are not mine. I didn't invent the funnel. I didn't invent any of this stuff. All I know is that I was on a path, in a journey. I was given the thing and the next thing, and I was freaking out and I was putting them together. That's part of it. This stuff's not mine. It's stuff that was given to me and tested and so I'm so grateful for that. It's never me like, "Oh, look what I invented." That's so annoying because it's not. Again, come back to these ideas, these thoughts, these desires and things that were given to us. I think that's the first part.

The second part of it is, and I see this a lot in people in my world who, they had some success and then they're like, "This is my person. I made them a bajillion..." I hate that too. Like, you helped them in a piece but they did the work. I'm very careful to always when I'm talking about any of our success stories, I didn't make that person. We had this super-cool opportunity to be a piece to their journey. Right? We helped them give them some ideas and a tool, but they're the ones that killed.

I don't know what it takes to build what they're building. I didn't do that. They did that. I'm grateful that they did and I'm even more grateful that I got to be a little piece of that. I got to be part of that journey. I got to see that and just have the impact of, oh my gosh. Because I killed myself and wrote those books and because Todd killed himself and wrote software and I was able to communicate it, they're able to do this thing and it's not all me. I'm fully aware it's not all me.

I know what every entrepreneur has to go through to be successful and it's not a mentor who gives you everything. It's just a lot of people who are a piece. I've had mentors who gave me a piece that I'm so grateful for, but then they try to take all the credit, like, "Oh, this is when..." I hate that too. So I think those two sides.

Number one is again, I don't think these ideas are something that I came up with. They were given to me and I was a good steward of them because I was able to aggregate and there's the thing. The number two is just my belief that I didn't help anyone.

Even when you said, "You and Katie," I felt awkward. I didn't do anything.

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

Luckily some of the stuff resonated with you and it was a little piece of your journey. I'm so grateful for that. The fact, to see you do stuff now, it's so much fun for me to watch you. Just knowing, "Man, because he bumped into me, maybe something happened and now he's doing this stuff and this work and it's so cool seeing how you're impacting people." I think those are the reasons why I don’t think my head gets big, because I don't think it's me. I'm grateful that I get to be a piece of it, of the journey, but I'm not the creator of it.

Josh:

All right. I want to loop back to the book.

Russell:

Go ahead. Can we just read it? You guys want us to read it to you?

Josh:

Yeah. What was the thing that fascinated you about it though? When you've asked me, you were like, "Dude, I read it and I'm geeking out about it, I just want to geek out about it." What about it had you so fascinated? What did you want to geek out about it? I have a question that I want to ask later on about it, but what was the thing that just made you geek?

Russell:

There are a lot of things. I think the biggest thing that I was really excited, we talked about earlier was just… The biggest thing earlier was just this cons-... Again, for those of you who are tuning in late in here, there's the whole, it talks about greed. Right? And that concept of greed versus charity.

Again, the book very much is like, greed is good, it's the thing that causes production and you should care about yourself and then good things will happen, it will create jobs and everything else will take care of as long as you're caring most about yourself. Which I thought was kind of cool but then also I had the other side with my beliefs in Christ and Christianity and all these things like that, where it's just like, how does that reconcile with faith, hope, charity and love, and serving everybody else?

That's probably the thing that got me the most. I think about that a lot, especially in politics. Again, I'm not deep into politics, I'm not going to talk about who I'm voting for, not voting for, it doesn't matter. But I see that on both sides. I feel like on the Republican side you see a lot of this stuff, like this. Then on the Democrat side, you see a lot of the charity stuff. Again, in my notes I wrote this actually initially, because I wanted to talk about this. I'm a big believer that there's not a right and wrong. There's good in both sides.

Josh:

There's not a right or wrong side.

Russell:

Yeah. Things are messed up on both sides. It's how the world works. Satan, there's this eternal struggle between God and Satan and Christ, this is always happening. So there's two sides and there's God-like principles and things on the right that are amazing and then there's Satan that's twisting things and jacking them up. Same thing on both sides.

I see everyone fighting tooth and nail and I bet you, if we all sat down, the majority of all issues we'd all agree on. But then it's these fringe things that causes so much hatred and fighting and just drives me crazy. I think that this book is the perfect example of what I believe so much in some of these principles, but there's also the opposite principles that I also believe in and they're both right. If you missed the beginning part of the interview, we talked more about that but the greed, the growth and contribution, that transition is the key that just fascinates me.

Josh:

Yeah. What parts of the book contradicted the most with your faith? What part of the books did you have the hardest time with because of your faith?

Russell:

Yeah. The producers in the book, the minds, the people that I connect with, because I self-identify as a producer, someone who's obsessed with production and creating. That’s why I relate with Hank Rearden, Dagny, all these people are cut from my same cloth. It's as they're growing this stuff that they didn't give back, that they didn't... That's the thing. I felt like they weren't rounded out characters and that's the biggest thing for me. The first half of the book, I want to be Hank Rearden. He's fricking the man. Like yes, that's all I want to be.

I wanted to see him have that change of heart where he's Christ-like and he gives of his own free will. Not because the government came with the gun and told him he's got to pay taxes. I wanted to see his character develop and realize that, "Oh my gosh, I should be serving people because I love them. Not because of the government's force." That's the piece that I wish.

Josh:

It never took that turn. The book, you almost expected it and then it didn't happen.

Russell:

It got worse and worse and worse and then they waited until just everything... People were dying, everything collapses and then the lights in the yurt go out, wooh, and they're like, "Okay, now we can come back and build."

Josh:

Now we can go back and build, but even when they come back and build, it was built by our new law of basically... Actually, one of the things that's fascinating about that was... Gosh, it was towards the end. Was it Galt? I think it was Galt. Yeah, I think it was during his speech when he was like, "The minds society, we gave all this stuff to you guys basically." Trying to be like God there, but every day, we created all this stuff, we created these jobs, we created these resources. We gave it to you and all we wanted from you guys was for you to let us be in our own head. Let us, our minds be free and not be controlled by anything else. You took all that and not only did you take it all, then you said, "No, you're bad and we're going to take that away too. So we're all going on strike because of that."

You relate to that so much and then it's like, yes! Then they explained how they live and it's like, you expect them to have that change of heart rather, but no. It's because we are amazing and because we are the great minds and we must live by this code. It has nothing to do with actually giving back or actually contributing to society. It was like they didn't care about contributing to society. It just happened to happen.

Russell:

Yeah. Which is cool, which is why again, governments should let producers produce because the byproduct is really good.

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

For everybody. So that part is so much I relate to. Part of this is probably because Ayn Rand didn't believe in God. You know what I mean? That wasn't part of her values and so it's tough because she weaved that... I just wish at the end of the book, it would have been like, and then Hank Rearden realized that he could help all these people himself and so he built orphanages and changed all these kids' lives. Like, yes! That would have been amazing. He found about OUR and he went and donated money to save all these children.

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

But he did it of his own free will because he had that change of heart. I don't want to die at the end of my days and... I produced some great jobs, but I didn't care about people. I feel like that missed the mark.

Josh:

Hank Rearden you say is the person you related to really most in the book?

Russell:

Yeah, I think so. I wanted to be Francisco though, he was pretty sweet.

Josh:

Who do you think I related to most in the book?

Russell:

Oh. Who was it?

Josh:

It was a relatively main one. You were close.

Russell:

Oh, was it Francisco?

Josh:

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Yeah.

Russell:

He was cool.

Josh:

Right from the beginning he fascinated me. I knew right when, the plot twist of where he ran off and became the playboy or picture, he was obviously a playboy or whatever. I knew right then and there. I don't know what the plot, I don't know what the connection is but I know this is going to come back around and it's not going to be how it seems. The mind doesn't shift and then he stays in the scene or whatever.

He fascinated me because, or he strikes me as someone... Hank Rearden didn't care about the crowds. He did not at all. He hated going to the wedding. It was by force that his wife drug him out there that one time. It was always, "I just want to work in my office." I'm actually not like that. I am actually much more the... I do like the crowds, but I don't like the crowds because I need praise. Don't get me wrong, I like being on stage and doing this type of stuff or whatever, but for me, I like the crowds because I love people.

It's funny because I actually don't get along with a lot of people in real life. Whenever I go to the airport, I'm like, I will pay whatever it takes. Put me on a plane first, the least amount of people I have to deal with, whatever. I don't want to have to interact with people that I don't want to interact with. But I love studying and understanding people's minds.

For me, one of the reasons I am so fascinated by Donald Trump is because of how he can control the crowds. You look at his rallies. Dude, you can't ignore them. They're just huge. My fiance's parents, or her mom and Kirby went yesterday, I think it was last night, to Omaha. 29,000 people showed up in the bitter cold of Omaha, a last-minute notice. That type of control or not even control, but that type of influence to be able to go through, what is it that makes people go and do that?

So Francisco in the book, he was the partier guy and he went and he was with the crowds and he was very good with words and articulated, but he sold me at that wedding. I'm telling you.

Russell:

That was good.

Josh:

To me, there's more than two ways, but super simplified down, there's two ways to influence people. There's one, which is the indirect, which is build a software company, it's build a product, it's build an iPhone. You're not directly influencing them with your words or whatever, but it's influencing their behavior by creating a product, by creating a service that's going to go out and change the world. Then the other way is to actually go out there and change them with your words.

That's why Jesus, for example, Jesus didn't build the product. He did it through His words kind of, sort of, but to me that's so fascinating. If I can figure out how to do that, that's how I can affect real change in the world. And it's funny because you've had had such a massive influence on my life, but probably a year and a half maybe ish into me knowing ClickFunnels, I was like, "Man, Russell's doing it all wrong." I had this thing of, if Russell would communicate more about stuff besides funnels, he would have a bigger impact.

I had this limited belief of, this is the only way you can influence and impact people, is by going out there and actually speaking to them. But that's my superpower and my gift. In the book, Francisco was the one I think that best represents my style of trying to go out and do things. I find it interesting by Hank Rearden with you…

Russell:

I'm the same way. I would rather be in here building funnels, doing some stuff. There's scenes of Hank in the book where he's sitting there looking out over the factories at night and he sees, he watches the steel being poured, it's glowing. He's enjoying that. For me, it's similar where I do the stage thing and things like that. I get less value… interactions are hard, but I spend a lot of time on social media at night, just looking at the people that I know are in our world and watching what they're doing because that's me watching the steel.

My mission is not to go teach people how to do what you do. I'm giving you a blow horn so you can go do it. That's more fascinating to me to sit back and explain to my wife. Events drive her crazy because then it'll happen and it'll get done and then I scurry off and I don't want to talk to anybody. I sit in the room and I just watch what people takeaways and then who they're talking to. I spend a lot of time just watching. That's for me like looking over the steel and being like, I gave them a trumpet or I gave them a blow horn and now their messages are going out there and I can just watch it.

So for me, I don't want to teach personal development and this and that, but I want to empower or give tools or whatever tools there are so that you can and whoever all the other influencers are to be able to do those things. Does that makes sense?

I'm an amplifier. I'm an amplifier of other people's messages and my message just happens to be, "Here's the amplification that you need to amplify your message," and then letting everybody else go and do it.

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]]> 2637 no The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 3 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-atlas-shrugged-interview-part-3-of-5 Welcome back to part 3 of this special episode series. Today Russell and Josh try to answer the question, “does everybody need to be an entrepreneur?” They also talk about celebrating other people’s success and how having kids has changed the way they work. So listen in and enjoy part 3 of this very special interview. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. We're about to start the third part of our five-part Atlas Shrugged interview series. I hope you guys enjoyed part one and part two. I'm sure there are things that you agreed with, I'm sure there are things you disagreed with, that's okay. This whole thing is not about me trying to force anything on you, it's more just to get us all thinking and open the conversations and help us look at things from both sides. With that said, we're going to move now into the third part of the interview series. Again, we broke down our three and a half hour interview into five podcasts episodes. I know these are long, but I hope you're enjoying them. And hopefully it's just getting the wheels spinning. Hopefully, you're enjoying it. And I really hope that it gives you the desire to go and read the Atlas Shrugged book and kind of see some of these principles through that lens. So, with that said, we'll queue up the theme song. When we get back, you'll have a chance to listen to part three of my interview with Josh Forti. Josh Forti: Okay. I want to circle back to one quick thing and then we can move on. Russell Brunson: Okay. Josh: So the question I was trying to ask was, when you were like, "Hey, there's the technician or there's the plumber, there's this, or there's that or then there's the person that comes in and makes it rain." There's only a few people in an organization that like, make it rain, right? Like you in ClickFunnels, you make it rain. You're the one that brings it in and, I'm sure there's other people to a certain extent, but you are that person. And you probably have what, 100, 200 people on the support team? That don't actually make the company any money, but they do play a critical role in the sense that the company couldn't function without them. And so, to those people there, how does somebody who... Two-part question. One, can you live your best life in a position like that? Can you be most alive and fulfilled and live a great life, doing something average like that? Number two, does that person need to go learn how to make it rain? Does everybody need to be an entrepreneur? Does everybody need to be... Like, you are so fascinating, you got this whole community of funnel hackers and like, "We're going to go out and choose a world. We think differently. We do it differently. We got all this stuff." Would it be good if the whole world thought that way? Or do we need people that don't think that way? Russell: There was a time in life where I thought everyone should think that way. I don't think so now. I have family members who love what they do and they're obsessed with the art, like the art is what they do. Some people... I've had good masseuses and bad masseuses. Some masseuses, that is their art, you can tell, you're just like, "Oh, my gosh. They're the best at their craft." And I think that's okay, I think if it brings fulfillment, that's more important. But people aren't fulfilled, that's the second question. If you're not fulfilled then why, you know? And I think one of the most powerful things, Myron Golden taught this at Funnel Hacking live, and he taught it at two comma club a couple times, he has a thing called the four levels of value. It's so fascinating because… Josh: Such a good one. Russell: Yeah, it's so good. The first level of value, for those who haven't heard this before, is it just talks about I'm going to not do it justice, Martin's the man. One of the greatest speakers of all- Josh: Tell YouTube. Actually I don't even know, if it's on YouTube. Russell: It's on my... Anyway, yes. So bottom level is, people work their hands, right? And this is the hardest work. Like, the person that's actually building the building. Or typing, you're doing support, or whatever the thing is, they're working with their hands. That's the lowest level of value, right? Like the most you make when you're, when you work with your hands is maybe 50, 60, $70,000 a year, but you're tapped out, you can't get higher than that. Now, if that's your calling and you're good at, and you love it, go all in. Become the best in the world at that thing, and that's totally cool. But you cap out on salary, you can't make more money at a certain point. Because that's the value of that tier value. The next tier value, if you move up one tier, is management. Somebody who can manage all of the workers. And there's people... One of the big mistakes we made inside of ClickFunnels, we took the people inside of our team who were the best workers and we upgraded them to management and they were horrible managers, amazing workers moved into management. And they weren't managers, this is a different mindset. They can go learn that, but that's not where they were gifted. And a lot of times it was irreparable, we couldn't move them back down because in their mind, like, "Oh I'm a manager now." It's like, "No." I think one of things we learned is someone can be a worker and make more money than the manager. Just because sometimes their skillset, like the programmers and developers, getting an amazing programmer to code something is, a lot of times, worth more than the managers managing that person. But in most businesses, most organizations, manager's next tier, right? Because you make more money as a manager because you're managing a lot of workers, as opposed to one. Then you go up the next tier value and it's the communicators. People learn how to talk and to sell, that's the next thing. You make more selling and you do managing, and you typically make more managing than you do actually doing the thing. And not everyone's going to be great salespeople. I think it's a teachable skill. I think you may have seen my early videos, everyone thinks this is a gift that I was born with. It is not, it is something that's been developed. Josh: Guys, you should go look at Russell's old videos, they're so embarrassing. Russell: They are the worst ever. Yeah, when I was your age I would not have been able to do this, it's crazy. So that tier is the communicators and the top tier are the visionaries. Imagining it, you're using your brain to make money. So your use your brain, your mouth, your management skills or your hands. Those are the four tiers of value. So I think wherever you fit in there, that's cool, we need people all the tiers, but like... I did a podcast about this the other day, I'm like, "Whatever you going to be, don't just be a person doing it, become the best in the world." We were in Oakville Tony's Event and we're in a hotel and it was kind of weird because there's a spa, so like, all excited to get massages, but it's also COVID right now. So the masseuses have masks on, they have plastic gloves, it was weird. And I got my very first massage, they paid for two massage it. So I was like, "It'll be fun." The first massage was so bad. I was like, "I never want to get a massage again, ever." It was so bad and I'm sitting there on the table, it was only an hour long massage, by the time it was done I was like, "I want to get out of here, this is just weird and horrible." I did not enjoy it. And I'm a massage person. Josh: Yeah. I love massage. Russell: And I was to the point I'd never want massage again, but they'd already booked us for the next day for the second one. And I was annoyed. I went to the second one and same thing. She's got plastic gloves on like we have to do and the mask. And I'm just kind of like, "Oh, I don't even want to be here." And then she puts her hands on me and it's just like, it was art, it was different. And both of them are doing the same job, right? But somebody was like, "I want to be the best the world." Versus, "Oh, I'm just doing the thing." And you see that in every area of life, the chiropractors, there's chiropractors, that are good and there's ones that are great. Doctors, dentists, business. I'm more, wherever you're at, don't just be mediocre, become the best in the world there. That's more important to me than... You know, if you can be a plumber, be the plumber who you walk in... Like we've had, our house, so many plumbers come in. We had some that come and they fix the leak and then something else breaks and they go “uh…” And other guys should come in to check everything, they make sure it's perfect. I want that person, I want the artists I want the person that this is their art and not just like, "Ugh, best job I could find." Josh: Yeah. All right, so now I'm about to ask you a question and I understand this is totally your opinion on it, maybe you have something to base it on. So, the person that is at those lower levels of value, the average worker that's out there, that's doing their thing, especially in today's super soft victim mentality America that wants to vote for free stuff. Makes me so mad. Anyway. The average person that's out there, looks up at people that make a lot of money and the general consensus, I think, or the way that America slash the world is going is, rich people are bad, right? Like, "You're so greedy, man. You got all his money and you're not giving any to me, you get to go sit in your massive house and your cars and you can do whatever you want." And so, even if they are doing what they are called to do, they'll look up to a millionaire, a billionaire, somebody that has all this stuff and they'll look at it as bad. Like that shouldn't happen. How do you create a society? And this is why... I know this is big picture type stuff, but how do you create a society that allows people to be okay with being the best version of themselves where they're at without looking at you and being like, "You're bad."? You know what I mean? Russell: Yeah. Well, it's not going to happen in our lifetime. It's not going to happen, my belief, till Christ comes again. And when he does, it'll be a perfect, you know, things will be great. But until then, it's not going to happen because humans are humans. Right? Josh: You mean Donald Trump's not going to just fix everything? Russell: Oh, if he does that'd be amazing but I'm not holding my breath. But I would say more so just, for anyone who feels that way, I would look at that more... And I did a podcast about this, if you're not someone who celebrates other people's successes, everybody, I don't care if you hate the person, if you're a big fan or you're not a big fan, if you don't celebrate their success, then you are going to struggle to ever be successful because you're going to be so scared of other people not celebrating your success. I remember... I am not a huge Gary Vee fan, you know this, for reasons I'll talk about in my next book. But- Josh: When I tweet this out on Twitter, Gary, when you follow me, shout out, by the way, The Patriots won the Superbowl more than The Jets. Just throw that out there. All right, continue. I just guaranteed he'd never come on my podcast. Russell: I do like Gary, I just, we had a thing, but whatever, he doesn't remember it, I'm sure. But anyway, he got the shoe deal with... Whatever the shoes. Josh: Adidas. Russell: And he's going to market and for half a second, I was like, "That sucks." And then I was like, "You freaking he's in our industry and he got a shoe deal!" And I ran to my computer. Josh: Or K-Swiss, yeah. Russell: The K-Swiss. I bought the shoes. I got them… And I did a podcast, celebrating the fact that someone in our community got a shoe deal and all these things. And most people that I know were like, "I thought you're not a big Gary fan." I'm like, "I'm not, but that's a huge success, we should celebrate success." Because if you don't, then what's going to automatically happen in your head. If you're Not celebrating people's successes then you have the subconscious fear that someone's not going to do yours. And so you're going to stifle yourself and be successful. So I try when anybody around me is having success. Whether I like them or I don't like them, I always am like, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to try to celebrate it." And then by doing that it changes your brain to the spot where you're okay having success, because you're assuming everyone's going to celebrate like you. And they're not going to, but it's different subconsciously. If you are not celebrating other people's successes it will stifle you from ever having your own. And so I think that's a big part of... If that's where you're at right now, it's something you got to change. And when you start making that little shift and start celebrating people's successes above you, it's freeing, it's amazing. Because then all of a sudden you're unlocking yourself, like I can succeed because they did and people are going to celebrate me. And it shifts those like psychological things that you do and it changes everything. It's weird. Josh: Do you think... You're not political, like hardly at all. Like, do you even pay attention? Russell: No, not too much. I was like, so those who read the book, Hank Rearden, and this is part of his demise, is he doesn't pay attention to it at all. So as I read the book, I'm like, Hank Rearden, doesn't pay attention, I don't pay attention. Real quick, can we do a shout out for these shirts again? You guys have seen them? By the way, how many of you guys would like one of these shirts? Josh: Ooh let's make them comment for this first. Russell Brunson: Okay. Josh: Guys, how many of you want to shirt? Yes or no. Comment yes or no down below. Russell: So this is the Rearden Steel one. And this is who is John Galt? One. Josh: Very dope. I'm not going to lie though. Like that was pretty dope, but this one wins for one reason. Russell: The quote is cool. We can put that quote on this one too and make it silver. Josh: Ooh. Ooh. Russell: Okay. This is my selfish pitch. Can I do- Josh: Hey guys, can Russel do a pitch real quick? Russell: Is it okay if I sell something? He says something to you. Keep in mind. I make no money off of this. I don't even know what he's doing. No, we have a little fun site we created just because that'd be fun called TshirtSmackdown.com where we have two shirts and then people vote with their wallets, which shirt they want better. So if you guys want these shirts, you could actually buy whichever one is your favorite, or both if you like them both. Just got to go to TshirtSmackdown.com and they're up there right now. And guess who was the models on TshirtSmackdown? I assume. Are we the models? Anyway, go to TshirtSmackdown.com, you can get one or two- Josh: Oh my gosh. Look at that big your team. Russell: We're super models! Josh: Your team's amazing, dude. They put it together that fast.. Okay. Let's geek out the book here for a second. Russell: Yeah. Josh: The audible door. That, the password that was audible. When I read that I was like, "Yes!" That's a brilliant mind at, it's like you have to say it. And the part that I thought was interesting was, it wasn't just the words he's like, and it's programmed to where it will not open unless the person that is saying it is actually like saying it with conviction or something to that effect. They actually have to like, mean it. Can't just be like, "Duh duh duh duh duh. Okay, I'm in." Like, now you guys want to read the book so bad. Okay. All right. We'll come back to the TshirtSmackdown, comment. down below. Let us know and let us know guys. Let's not go down the comments, if you're listening on audio you can go leave a rating and review and leave us in the comments. But like, if you're just listening, YouTube, Facebook, wherever, comment down below your favorite part of the conversation was so far. I think that'd be super cool. Okay. Let's geek out on the book for a second here. I actually have a lot of questions about the book, but I want to know, what was your favorite scene? Russell: Oh, Oh, so many good scenes. My favorite scene in the book. So it's kind of like the crescendo of the whole book. Because the whole book is asking, who's John Galt. Who's John Galt. Josh: Okay. Hold on. Sorry, David's sitting in the background. Have you read the book, Dave? Okay. So I'm just making sure that you're not just sitting over here, like freaking out. Dave's like I have to read it too. I was like, I need to talk to somebody. Dave, go read this. I'll see you in six months. Russell: So the whole books leader, who's John Galt, who's John Galt. We're kind of introduced to him a little bit when Dagny meets them. And then she leaves and goes back to the real world. And all of a sudden, there's this part where the looters and the government are trying to do this broadcast. And all of a sudden… (static noise) the broadcast is interrupted and they're trying figure how to fix it. But all of the people who would fix it have been taken- Josh: Because all the great minds as society are gone. Russell: And all of a sudden over the loud speaker comes John Galt and he starts the speech. And the speech I think is 80 pages in the book. It's four hours on the audio book, four hours. This is why you don't watch you to movie you by the way. Cause it's less than 30 seconds in the movie. Josh: How do you take out four hours? Russell: Oh, it's such a good... Anyway, he gets on this microphone broadcasting to the entire world, nobody can cut them off. And he gives this speech about… Josh: The entire book. Russell: I’m just freaking out… The set up. It was so crazy, all of a sudden it happened. I was like, "Whoa." And anyway, that was my- Josh: And he ends with this and he goes, and I'll say it one last time “I pledged my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man nor ask another man to live for mine.” Russell: Anyway, that was my favorite part. Josh: The 80 page. Four hour long version of it? Okay. Russell: Oh yeah. So good. Josh: Okay. I like that. My favorite part of the book, I read this and I was like... So, I like play my life on and act like I'm in a movie, right. Sometimes I'm like, do this. So do you remember what the wedding? Russell: Oh, Francisco speech. Dude! Josh: That might've been better. I promised Leah I would be done after this chapter. And it ends, and I'm like, "No!" Russell: The John Galt had a better buildup and then I didn't know it was coming, there's a wedding and everything. And then all of a sudden it starts happening. I was like- Josh: Out of freaking nowhere. Russell: Yeah. So Francisco, he gives a speech that was like, yeah, I wasn't expecting it. So I think it was less buildup, but it was amazing. Yeah. The John Galt buildup was like, this is like, I was waiting when you said movie. Because I was like, "It can be amazing." Then it's like, come on. Anyway. Yeah. Those are the two best parts. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. At that wedding... I'm reading this and it was like that moment I was like, "Okay. She finally made it all..." And that was relatively early on in the book. I was like, Oh, if the book follows anything like this, this is going to be such a good book. Right. Because he gets done with that and you're just... It's something you'd want to watch out in real life and know that somebody thought this up and they wrote down. You're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was so good. That was, that was hands down my favorite part. Russell: I want to read the book again, I wish it wasn't 1200 pages because I want to go back to experience it but it's so big. Josh: Okay. Have you read the cliff notes version of the book? Russell: No. Josh: Okay. So yeah. So there is there's, I think there's the cliff notes, like the one that you buy. I think it's like a four-hour audio book, I haven't listened to that one. But usually on cliffsnotes.com, can like read the book. You can basically get a summary of the whole book in like, 30 to 45 minutes. I read it. Russell: It's still worth reading though, you guys. Josh: Oh, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. But that's the reason I'm bring it up because I notice 1200 pages, but if you just read the Clifton, but you're like, "Oh, okay. Cool storyline." But you miss the effect of it all. Russell: One of the things that I thought was fascinating. Just because I'm working on my next book, which is not a how-to book, so I'm learning how to write differently. So I've been- Josh: Ooh, you want to tell us all about it? Russell: I'm really proud, excited for it. But one thing was interesting, if you look Ayn Rand did the dialogue in the book, she did all the dialogue, but it's just one person speaking. So it's fascinating. Every time you notice that, like when her partner was in the cafeteria with some guy we didn't know, you only hear his words, you never hear the other side. Josh: That's so true. Russell: Most of her dialogues were just, you heard the one person talking and you could get the gist of the conversation by reading one side, but they never had the other side and I'd never seen someone write that way before. And there's a lot of cool things like that where it's just like... Again, I've written three books now, but I wrote books with Google Docs, with editors and people. Like imagine writing a book in the fifties with a typewriter. Think how much forethought has to go to something like this. Josh: Yeah, that's wild. Russell: It is insane to think that. Yeah. So I have so much respect for people who wrote then. And especially, I'm trying to learn how to write as a story as opposed to how to, and the art of it is just fascinating. As a book, it's worth reading just to see how she wrote is fascinating as well. Josh: What was your biggest... Actually, I want to go down that rabbit hole a little bit further. So writing, is your next book fiction or not? Russell: No, it's just the next book is about bootstrap.com. Bootstrapping is the ClickFunnels story, but it's not like the how-to, it's telling the story as the story, which is going to be cool. Josh: Oh, that's going to be so good. Russell: First thing we're doing is all the core people who've been part of ClickFunnels story. We're flying them out and interviewing them for... I've been mapping out the entire timeline of events as close as I can remember and I'm going to interview... All the pieces from their point of view. Trying to get that from like 50 different people and then take all that stuff, think the timelines up and write the book as a story. So it's a different writing style I've never done before. Josh: That's interesting. Russell: Oh yeah. Dave wants to tell you the cool part. So I'm also like been re-geeking out on The Hero with a Thousand Faces and The Hero's 2 Journeys and all that stuff. Because I want to make sure... Well someday I want to try to sell it to Hollywood or something. So who knows? I don't have the end of the story yet, but like- Josh: Which is by the way, super fascinating because of how the concept concept of going for a target and then going towards it. Like, you don't know the end now you're just like, that is so cool. Russell: Oh yeah, and so it's cool. But I was like- Josh: Russell's so much fun to watch. Russell: So I've been, I've been geeking out on the hero's journey. So I'm like, I'm trying to sync the timeline of the ClickFunnels startup story to the timeline of The Hero with a Thousand Faces, all the core things. To see if I can get it to fit inside that framework, which I think we'll be able to do. it's going to be amazing. Then what I'm trying to do in my new office is I'm going to build the rumors, like a timeline, so the entire room wraps in a huge chalkboard with a timeline that goes around and it has the dates and the years of the journey and stuff. And then writing in each core thing on the wall. And then, you know how in the spy movies, you have like a string that goes and you have the pieces of paper. Josh: Yeah. Russell: As I'm writing the book, I'm going to have the whole thing timed out in a square room. And so you see it all and they can see all the pieces, how they all fit together. And then when the book's done, in that room, that'll be the wallpaper on the room. Josh: Oh my gosh. Okay. All right. So here's deal. Here's a great idea. So you do that up until a certain point, like this is modern day, and then there's an end of the wall. And then from that point to there, that's when you're writing and when you get to the end of the wall you have to sell everything and go into hiding and become John Galt. Like that book's done, I’m out. That's fascinating. Russell: But I get to write a story that's way different. It's not, like all my other books are how-to books so they're written differently. And so it's just been fun- Josh: Which by the way is why when I first got into entrepreneurship I was like, "I don't know why anybody would write a book that's not like that." Like I'm like, "Why would anybody write a book like this? This is so lame." And now I'm reading it and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is so cool." Russell: I tend to respect the books I'm reading now, I just finished Shoe Dog, which is the story of- Josh: Oh that's a great book. Russell: American Kingpin, which is the story of the silk road and the dark web, one of my favorite stories I've ever read, I've read it twice already. And the writer is probably the best writers I've ever. I read it and I was so depressed. I was like, I'll never write... Because I tried to hire him to write my book for me. And he's too busy. Josh: I will give you a blank check, just write this book. You're so much better than I could ever dream of. Russell: So I had to go and learn how to do it. Josh: What was the most fascinating thing about Atlas Shrugged, to you? Like, the way it was written or the concepts of the character, anything. What was the overall, the most fascinating part for you? Russell: Character development was so cool. I think the coolest thing for me was... I'd love to see a sim diagram because I don't know it, but each of the characters each played, like they were a character, they played a role that is like this magnified society as a group, almost. Right? Josh: Yeah. That's actually super true. Russell: Like, you have Hank Rearden and Dagny, and then... Josh: James Taggart. Russell: Taggart's wife. All the people, they were humans, but they were personification of a segment of society, which is really cool. And so seeing that where you're getting this micro versions, macro problem. That was cool because I never, again I don't study politics, I'm not deep into it so I don't know all these things. And you hear this character and you hear the story, and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, that represents this group of people that I..." And so for me, it was cool because I was able to understand things at a different level. And I'm not the best at this, I always try to put myself in other people's shoes. I try to understand... That's why I'm not super political, because they get so divisive and I see good on both sides. Like, I understand, I can love people on both sides of it. I think it was so cool for me because you see the pros and the cons of each thing. Right? You see the positives, negatives, each belief pattern. Josh: Yeah. Russell: I think Rearden, as much as I related to him, it was like, there's the good and evil, right? And all of them have that. So it was just cool because it gave me this perspective, I didn't know of so many different segments of society. It made this really cool tapestry and picture for me. Josh: Huh. All right. So now the polar opposite. What do you think the book lacked in? Or didn't communicate well or left out? Russell: I think, something we talked about today, I do feel like most of the producers in the book, they didn't have the other side of it. Right? The social stuff is important, helping other people is important and I get why she did it. Like I said, the Phil Donahue interview, she's like, "People should be social. They shouldn't do it with a gun." But she never showed that she, didn't show, Hank Rearden going in like, "Oh, this is a cause I care about like, let me go and..." Josh: At all, in any part. Russell: I think that stuff's important, that's why we talk about political. On the left side, what they're trying to do is good it's right, it's from God, it's so good things. Right? But there's ways that people twist and all sorts of stuff like that. And I wish they would have showed more of that because I felt like the characters were one sided where it's just, the people that are looters and the people that are producers. And I feel like there's more blend for all of us, we have blends of those things. And they did a good job as dissect- Josh: Super, yeah. Russell: You know? I think we all have all those things, I want to give, I want to serve, I want to do things, but I also want to produce, I want to do both those things. like how do I, what's the world look like where we do both of those things. And I don't know how to. In my little universe that I've created for myself and my family, I'm trying to produce. I'm trying to contribute and try and do my version of what I think is right. All we can do is what we think is right in our own little world that we create. And so this is my world I've created, I'm trying my best to do it. And I wish that they would have showed some of that side. But I think that that was a part, I feel, that the characters were missing just that part of it. Josh: So what's interesting- Russell: Christ-like, charity, love stuff. Josh: Okay. Well, and I'm so glad you brought this up, what I think is interesting, the thing that I felt like the book was lacking the most is nobody had kids. Russell: I didn't think about that. Josh: Think about this, none of them... Because one of my questions, she was going to be like, "How Was having a kid?" And I kind of asked her... Kind of changing perspective, but I'm like- Russell: Interesting. Josh: Nobody had kids. And I don't have kids. I'm not married, I don't have kids. I'm getting married. Russell: Yeah, woo hoo! Josh: By the way. Shout out to my beautiful fiance. All right. But for me, I'm so focused right now. So I grew up in a big family, right. Eight kids. I'm the oldest living. I had one other brother who passed away, but like six younger siblings. And like, my whole life changes once there's kids in it. And I know that even though I haven't experienced it, because I've seen it. And so for me, and Leah and I have talked about this like, "The twenties are for us, thirties are for kids." And so I'm like, "I got to make as much money as I possibly can before the because ah!" And I even told Colette this, I said, "If there's there was one thing that I would sacrifice my career for in order to be able to do, it'd be to homeschool my kids." I can't fathom sending my kids to public school, that's just me because I grew up homeschooled or whatnot. But as I was going through the book, I'm like, "I can relate to all of these people, but like they're leaving out like this key component." Imagine being Hank Rearden and living like he did, with your five kids. Or do you have? Russell: I have five. Josh: Yeah, I was going to say, before I was like, "Oh my gosh." So think about that. You know what I mean? And so I feel like one of the, because there's a lot of people I know that I've read Atlas Shrugged, like, "Heck yeah man, this is the greatest book ever, like for-profit blah, blah, blah." And I'm like, "Yeah. But like imagine living your life that way with a family." Imagine living your life like that with the kids and responsibilities, people that you actually like. How- Russell: I think about this. Because like our timeline, it comes back, we talk about growth and contribution. Right? So most of us, we get born. All of us, we get born right. Only way to get here, we're all born. Right? And from when you're born until you're, whatever, for me I got married at 22, I was 22. And so it's like the first 21 years, it's all about you. Right? It's selfish, it's growth. It's whatever it is, it's you, you, you. And everyone's very inward focused. And then all of a sudden you meet this beautiful person and then you fall in love, that's amazing. And also what happens is it shifts from you, you, you, to us. And you're giving, taking, giving taking, and it's cool because, all of a sudden all your focus isn't on you, it's on somebody else. But they're focused on you too and it's this amazing thing where like, I'm giving, but I'm also getting, it's this amazing thing. It's this transition that's easing you into kids because then kids come out and it flips now where it's like the opposite where you're just serving a hundred percent, especially the very beginning with kids. I was joking my kids about this one night when they're like, "Why are you guys so mean?" And I'm like, "Do you realize we get no value from this. We don't get paid a penny from this, there's nothing in parenting. We kill ourselves, we serve, we don't sleep. We work. We hate money." And that's not true, there's value. Josh: I'm just sitting here imagine Russel telling his kids, "We get no value, you do not pay us." Russell: I'm like, I'm killing myself. Josh: To be fair, you do get a tax break. Russell: Yeah. But especially when they're first born, they're cute and you get lots but they're in the selfish space now where you're giving a hundred percent and they're not giving back. Other than they giggle and cute and you're like, "Oh, so cute." But for the most part, you get this time where you're selfish and then it's like, "Oh, I'm serving someone else, but they're serving me." And amazing, then all of a sudden it's a hundred percent service there. And I think that that's a good point. Hank Rearden had only done this thing. And then, he never had a chance to like, a hundred percent serve somebody else and see what that's like. Because the value you get as a parent is when you serve a hundred percent of kids and you see like who they become, that's the value. But it doesn't come from the quid pro quo that you normally get with like, "I'm going to buy this thing or pay for this thing." Josh: Right. Russell: It's like, "I'm gonna serve, and serve, and serve." And eventually hope that someday they turn out to be cool. Josh: Yeah. And that's a super interesting point. And maybe that's why she left that part out of it because she was like, "None of these people would ever have kids-" Russell: And she didn't have kids, so that's a big… that might be the part, she's never seen that. At least not that I'm aware of, I'm pretty sure- Josh: That's crazy. Because going through I'm like, "This book I think would mean so much diff..." So when I first read it, like I said, whenever I first learned about this, back in high school, right. I read it. I hated reading. I publicly declared, and it's actually funny. When I graduated high school, I bought myself a pickup truck, I stood on the top of the pickup truck and I publicly declared to the world, I would never read another book ever again in life. I hated reading. So that's funny because now I'm reading 1200 page books and I've read every one of those books back there. It didn't really take on the same effect as now, being an entrepreneur, being someone at... Like at one point I had five employees and I'm 26 years old. So now I'm reading it and I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." But if I read it with kids, I feel like that would even give you a completely different perspective on like... How has having kids changed your... Because you're an entrepreneur basically from day one, right? You never really had a job. Right? Russell: I've served tables and stuff, I didn't have a job more than three months. Josh: Okay. So you're, you're a failure in the normal society, right? You can't hold a job, you get fired for... But how's having kids and having to balance... Because man, like, dude, you're running a... ClickFunnels is a billion dollar company. Right? We're allowed to say that? Like that's a thing, right? Like roughly, I'm not off on that. All right. Russell: The value is based what you will pay for so hopefully somebody pays that some day. Josh: So we're going to say a billion dollar company. So you're running this billion dollar company, you've made hundreds of millions of dollars, you've been payed a million dollars an hour from stage before... By the way, big props, congratulations. How has balancing work now with that, with the kids growing up, I feel like now they're at, because you're oldest is what, 12, 14 or 15. Right? So how has that changed the way that you view your work? Do you struggle with that? Like the balance. Russell: Yeah. Especially now with COVID stuff happening. Kids being homeschooled. Because before it was easy to separate because they're going to school, I'm going to here. Separation is easy. Now it's harder because it's they're still home. And it's like, "Oh, should I be there?" It's definitely tough. Yeah. It's interesting. I have so many entrepreneur friends, I always tease them because it's like, who don't have any kids and they're doing amazing things. I'm like, "Yeah. But I'm doing this stuff and I got five kids and a beautiful wife and I got callings in my church." And there's so many things. I hired a trainer, Dave knows a safe trainer. I remember when he started working with us, he said the biggest thing he knows me start working with me is that you'll be shocked what your body can actually endure. I think that most people don't understand what they could actually do. How do you run a company this big and have a family and have a successful marriage and have these... You can do it, and most people don't because they sedate. And like, I don't watch four hours of football a night because I have all these other things. Right. I don't know, it's just you take away the excuse of sedation you can produce so much more than people are able to understand. I don't know. So it's interesting. And then it's been such a weird thing too, with kids, because I think when you first start having kids, you assume they're all going to be like you. Like, "Oh, they're all going to be entrepreneurs." And then I had twins, it was crazy, our first two that came out are twins. Now they're 14, almost 15. It's crazy because I assumed they'd all be the same, the same as me or the same together. And they are so polar opposites. Josh: Yeah, I didn't even know, I just found out today that they were twins. I had no clue. Colette's like, "Yeah they're both turning 15." I'm like, "Wait, what?" Russell: Yeah. They don’t look like each other, they don’t act like each other. One's more entrepreneurial. One's more, if you look at disc profile, I have a DI and we have an SC. Josh: Oh my God. Russell: Introvert, extrovert. All the things are different. And I always thought, you know, my kids are going to be entrepreneurs like me and now I don't think they have to be. It goes back to what we talked about earlier. With my kids, I'm like, "What do you want to do?" And I think some of my kids are very entrepreneurial, a lot of them aren't. I think some of my kids are super smart, hard workers who are going to be amazing at the roles they play in something, they're going to be a huge part of changing somebody's world, but it's not going to be the front person of it. And so it's been interesting watching that and fulfilling and hard and it's all the things wrapped into one. It's an interesting experience, you're going to love it. You should start having kids right away. Josh: Yeah. That's not going to happen. But why though? Russell: Because you should know, it takes time. Josh: Okay. But how long did you go? How long did you wait? Russell: Uh, two? Let's see, we had our 18 year anniversary, the kids are turning 15. So almost three years. We tried earlier, but we had fertility drugs, stuff like that and everything, But yeah, so about probably two years and when started trying. Josh: Yeah. I can't... Kids scare me dude. But it's interesting because like I grew up with six younger siblings. So I was definitely old enough to remember the whole diaper phase and like, you know... Obviously I wasn't a parent with it. And the church that I went to, eight was like average to small amount of kids. A lot of them were like 13 kids, 12 kids, 14 kids, whatever. I think the smallest in our whole church was four, and they were the weird ones. Russell: "You only have four kids? What's wrong with you?" Josh: Right. And so everywhere we went, that's just what it was. So for me, I had that rebellion phase, if you will. I don't want to call it rebellion phase, but where I was like, "I don't want any of this. Why would you... They're expensive and they suck all the time. And I can't go do this." I'm like, "I want to be so filthy read before I go having kids." And I taught Sunday school and was very involved in the church growing up and things like that. So for me it was like, "I want to go build my business, doing that is more fun." The interesting thing about kids. And I told my parents this, I don't remember when it was, but my parents aren't super wealthy or successful when it comes to business or anything like that. But I look at my parents as some of the most successful people that I've ever met in my life, because my mom's favorite... There's little things that my mom told me over and over and over again. And one of her famous lines is, "The only thing I need to know in life is I just need to know that my children walk in truth." Right. And my mom, particularly, and my dad too, like both of them, but I relate it with my mom, cause she'd keep saying it, it's like my mom's definition of success and achievement was, "Do my children walk in truth?" That is what was success to her. And she's like, "Yeah, money would have been great, like all these different things." But that was kind of the pinnacle of success for her is, do my kids walk in truth. And so as I have gone through my own journey of faith, which has been, I mean, it has been rough at times, right? I've watched her struggle with it and freak out because she's like, "I just want..." But that's not her journey to bear, but it is at the same time. And so it's always been interesting, kids are this thing where I feel like once I have them, obviously I'm there for the rest of my life, but I feel like there's this stress or there's this new piece of my life that's unlocked that I've never explored before. I don't know anything about it. And I'm like, afraid isn't the right word, but I'm pushing that off as long as I possibly can because once that's opened then I never get to close it again. And that mystery is almost fun to like look forward to, but at the same time, I get to focus over here. Russell: Essentially I remember thinking about this a lot, especially for the first two years. I was like, "his is so much harder than I thought it was going to be." Flat out, way harder. But also remember feeling and thinking out loud, "This is so much cooler than I ever dreamt it was going to be." Like this double-edged sword. And I was like, "Man, I didn't realize how tired and worn out." And all these things. But then so much better than I thought. It's funny. Cause I had a lot of friends who are like, “well, I want to make money, and then I’ll have kids”. I don't think, I don't know. It's different. I would just have kids, you can do both. It's not impossible. Especially when they're first born, they just sit there. I would spend a year or two and just not- Josh: Right, right, right. Russell: But I wouldn't wait until like, "Oh, I need a million bucks in the bank." I get people all the time, I know people that are broke, that have eight kids. They're not that expensive. Like, Cheerios are not that expensive, if you need to. It's just being willing to be there and be loving and be being present for as much as you can. Another thing that's been interesting, especially now that our kids are going to be teenagers, it's like so much harder. That's harder. Josh: Really that's harder than when they're young. Russell: Oh, for sure. Yeah. Josh: Dave's over here just laughing. Russell: It's different- Josh: Oh gosh. What am I in for Dave? Oh no. Russell: Yeah. The young part is like, "I'm tired." That's a hard part when they're young. When they're older, it's just like, am I messing these kids up, I just want them to be successful. That's the bigger fear. I remember a little thing that gave me some grace, Tom Bilyeu, I heard of this Instagram post about him talking about being a parent, and it was so funny because he's like, "Who here is scared that you're going to eff up your kids?" That was how he would have said it. Josh: Right, yeah. Russell: I would say “mess up”. Who's gonna mess up your kids. And everyone's hands like, "Yeah. I'm scared." He's like, "Guess what?..." I got to make sure I gets right. He's like, "My parents messed me up. You're going to mess your kids up. But guess what? We turned out okay in the end. Just be okay with the fact that you're going to mess your kids up because you are." And I remember, I was like, "Okay, everyone messed up their kids, that's part of it." That's part of the whole journey, that's the journey. And it gave me some grace of just like, "Look, I'm going to do my best. I'm probably going to mess them up." But at the same time you have to have faith, they're going to do their thing and they're going to hopefully make the decisions. And if not, that's why we have God. That's why we have repentance. And just in the kind of leaving it to leave it to him and do your best. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 3 of 5 full 365 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome back to part 3 of this special episode series. Today Russell and Josh try to answer the question, “does everybody need to be an entrepreneur?” They also talk about celebrating other people’s success and how having kids has changed the... Welcome back to part 3 of this special episode series. Today Russell and Josh try to answer the question, “does everybody need to be an entrepreneur?” They also talk about celebrating other people’s success and how having kids has changed the way they work. So listen in and enjoy part 3 of this very special interview. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. We're about to start the third part of our five-part Atlas Shrugged interview series. I hope you guys enjoyed part one and part two. I'm sure there are things that you agreed with, I'm sure there are things you disagreed with, that's okay. This whole thing is not about me trying to force anything on you, it's more just to get us all thinking and open the conversations and help us look at things from both sides. With that said, we're going to move now into the third part of the interview series. Again, we broke down our three and a half hour interview into five podcasts episodes. I know these are long, but I hope you're enjoying them. And hopefully it's just getting the wheels spinning. Hopefully, you're enjoying it. And I really hope that it gives you the desire to go and read the Atlas Shrugged book and kind of see some of these principles through that lens. So, with that said, we'll queue up the theme song. When we get back, you'll have a chance to listen to part three of my interview with Josh Forti. Josh Forti: Okay. I want to circle back to one quick thing and then we can move on. Russell Brunson: Okay. Josh: So the question I was trying to ask was, when you were like, "Hey, there's the technician or there's the plumber, there's this, or there's that or then there's the person that comes in and makes it rain." There's only a few people in an organization that like, make it rain, right? Like you in ClickFunnels, you make it rain. You're the one that brings it in and, I'm sure there's other people to a certain extent, but you are that person. And you probably have what, 100, 200 people on the support team? That don't actually make the company any money, but they do play a critical role in the sense that the company couldn't function without them. And so, to those people there, how does somebody who... Two-part question. One, can you live your best life in a position like that? Can you be most alive and fulfilled and live a great life, doing something average like that? Number two, does that person need to go learn how to make it rain? Does everybody need to be an entrepreneur? Does everybody need to be... Like, you are so fascinating, you got this whole community of funnel hackers and like, "We're going to go out and choose a world. We think differently. We do it differently. We got all this stuff." Would it be good if the whole world thought that way? Or do we need people that don't think that way? Russell: There was a time in life where I thought everyone should think that way. I don't think so now. I have family members who love what they do and they're obsessed with the art, like the art is what they do. Some people... I've had good masseuses and bad masseuses. Some masseuses, that is their art, you can tell, you're just like, "Oh, my gosh. They're the best at their craft." And I think that's okay, I think if it brings fulfillment, that's more important. But people aren't fulfilled, that's the second question. If you're not fulfilled then why, you know? And I think one of the most powerful things, Myron Golden taught this at Funnel Hacking live, and he taught it at two comma club a couple times, he has a thing called the four levels of value. It's so fascinating because… Josh: Such a good one. Russell: Yeah, it's so good. The first level of value, for those who haven't heard this before, is it just talks about I'm going to not do it justice, Martin's the man. One of the greatest speakers of all- Josh: Tell YouTube. Actually I don't even know, if it's on YouTube. Russell: It's on my... Anyway, yes. So bottom level is, people work their hands, right? And this is the hardest work. Like, the person that's actually building the building. Or typing, you're doing support, or whatever the thing is, they're working with their hands. That's the lowest level of value, right? Like the most you make when you're, when you work with your hands is maybe 50, 60, $70,000 a year, but you're tapped out, you can't get higher than that. Now, if that's your calling and you're good at, and you love it, go all in. Become the best in the world at that thing, and that's totally cool. But you cap out on salary, you can't make more money at a certain point. Because that's the value of that tier value. The next tier value, if you move up one tier, is management. Somebody who can manage all of the workers. And there's people... One of the big mistakes we made inside of ClickFunnels, we took the people inside of our team who were the best workers and we upgraded them to management and they were horrible managers, amazing workers moved into management. And they weren't managers, this is a different mindset. They can go learn that, but that's not where they were gifted. And a lot of times it was irreparable, we couldn't move them back down because in their mind, like, "Oh I'm a manager now." It's like, "No." I think one of things we learned is someone can be a worker and make more money than the manager. Just because sometimes their skillset, like the programmers and developers, getting an amazing programmer to code something is, a lot of times, worth more than the managers managing that person. But in most businesses, most organizations, manager's next tier, right? Because you make more money as a manager because you're managing a lot of workers, as opposed to one. Then you go up the next tier value and it's the communicators. People learn how to talk and to sell, that's the next thing. You make more selling and you do managing, and you typically make more managing than you do actually doing the thing. And not everyone's going to be great salespeople. I think it's a teachable skill. I think you may have seen my early videos, everyone thinks this is a gift that I was born with. It is not, it is something that's been developed. Josh: Guys, you should go look at Russell's old videos, they're so embarrassing. Russell: They are the worst ever. Yeah, when I was your age I would not have been able to do this, it's crazy. So that tier is the communicators and the top tier are the visionaries. Imagining it, you're using your brain to make money. So your use your brain, your mouth, your management skills or your hands. Those are the four tiers of value. So I think wherever you fit in there, that's cool, we need people all the tiers, but like... I did a podcast about this the other day, I'm like, "Whatever you going to be, don't just be a person doing it, become the best in the world." We were in Oakville Tony's Event and we're in a hotel and it was kind of weird because there's a spa, so like, all excited to get massages, but it's also COVID right now. So the masseuses have masks on, they have plastic gloves, it was weird. And I got my very first massage, they paid for two massage it. So I was like, "It'll be fun." The first massage was so bad. I was like, "I never want to get a massage again, ever." It was so bad and I'm sitting there on the table, it was only an hour long massage, by the time it was done I was like, "I want to get out of here, this is just weird and horrible." I did not enjoy it. And I'm a massage person. Josh: Yeah. I love massage. Russell: And I was to the point I'd never want massage again, but they'd already booked us for the next day for the second one. And I was annoyed. I went to the second one and same thing. She's got plastic gloves on like we have to do and the mask. And I'm just kind of like, "Oh, I don't even want to be here." And then she puts her hands on me and it's just like, it was art, it was different. And both of them are doing the same job, right? But somebody was like, "I want to be the best the world." Versus, "Oh, I'm just doing the thing." And you see that in every area of life, the chiropractors, there's chiropractors, that are good and there's ones that are great. Doctors, dentists, business. I'm more, wherever you're at, don't just be mediocre, become the best in the world there. That's more important to me than... You know, if you can be a plumber, be the plumber who you walk in... Like we've had, our house, so many plumbers come in. We had some that come and they fix the leak and then something else breaks and they go “uh…” And other guys should come in to check everything, they make sure it's perfect. I want that person, I want the artists I want the person that this is their art and not just like, "Ugh, best job I could find." Josh: Yeah. All right, so now I'm about to ask you a question and I understand this is totally your opinion on it, maybe you have something to base it on. So, the person that is at those lower levels of value, the average worker that's out there, that's doing their thing, especially in today's super soft victim mentality America that wants to vote for free stuff. Makes me so mad. Anyway. The average person that's out there, looks up at people that make a lot of money and the general consensus, I think, or the way that America slash the world is going is, rich people are bad, right? Like, "You're so greedy, man. You got all his money and you're not giving any to me, you get to go sit in your massive house and your cars and you can do whatever you want." And so, even if they are doing what they are called to do, they'll look up to a millionaire, a billionaire, somebody that has all this stuff and they'll look at it as bad. Like that shouldn't happen. How do you create a society? And this is why... I know this is big picture type stuff, but how do you create a society that allows people to be okay with being the best version of themselves where they're at without looking at you and being like, "You're bad."? You know what I mean? Russell: Yeah. Well, it's not going to happen in our lifetime. It's not going to happen, my belief, till Christ comes again. And when he does, it'll be a perfect, you know, things will be great. But until then, it's not going to happen because humans are humans. Right? Josh: You mean Donald Trump's not going to just fix everything? Russell: Oh, if he does that'd be amazing but I'm not holding my breath. But I would say more so just, for anyone who feels that way, I would look at that more... And I did a podcast about this, if you're not someone who celebrates other people's successes, everybody, I don't care if you hate the person, if you're a big fan or you're not a big fan, if you don't celebrate their success, then you are going to struggle to ever be successful because you're going to be so scared of other people not celebrating your success. I remember... I am not a huge Gary Vee fan, you know this, for reasons I'll talk about in my next book. But- Josh: When I tweet this out on Twitter, Gary, when you follow me, shout out, by the way, The Patriots won the Superbowl more than The Jets. Just throw that out there. All right, continue. I just guaranteed he'd never come on my podcast. Russell: I do like Gary, I just, we had a thing, but whatever, he doesn't remember it, I'm sure. But anyway, he got the shoe deal with... Whatever the shoes. Josh: Adidas. Russell: And he's going to market and for half a second, I was like, "That sucks." And then I was like, "You freaking he's in our industry and he got a shoe deal!" And I ran to my computer. Josh: Or K-Swiss, yeah. Russell: The K-Swiss. I bought the shoes. I got them… And I did a podcast, celebrating the fact that someone in our community got a shoe deal and all these things. And most people that I know were like, "I thought you're not a big Gary fan." I'm like, "I'm not, but that's a huge success, we should celebrate success." Because if you don't, then what's going to automatically happen in your head. If you're Not celebrating people's successes then you have the subconscious fear that someone's not going to do yours. And so you're going to stifle yourself and be successful. So I try when anybody around me is having success. Whether I like them or I don't like them, I always am like, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to try to celebrate it." And then by doing that it changes your brain to the spot where you're okay having success, because you're assuming everyone's going to celebrate like you. And they're not going to, but it's different subconsciously. If you are not celebrating other people's successes it will stifle you from ever having your own. And so I think that's a big part of... If that's where you're at right now, it's something you got to change. And when you start making that little shift and start celebrating people's successes above you, it's freeing, it's amazing. Because then all of a sudden you're unlocking yourself, like I can succeed because they did and people are going to celebrate me. And it shifts those like psychological things that you do and it changes everything. It's weird. Josh: Do you think... You're not political, like hardly at all. Like, do you even pay attention? Russell: No, not too much. I was like, so those who read the book, Hank Rearden, and this is part of his demise, is he doesn't pay attention to it at all. So as I read the book, I'm like, Hank Rearden, doesn't pay attention, I don't pay attention. Real quick, can we do a shout out for these shirts again? You guys have seen them? By the way, how many of you guys would like one of these shirts? Josh: Ooh let's make them comment for this first. Russell Brunson: Okay. Josh: Guys, how many of you want to shirt? Yes or no. Comment yes or no down below. Russell: So this is the Rearden Steel one. And this is who is John Galt? One. Josh: Very dope. I'm not going to lie though. Like that was pretty dope, but this one wins for one reason. Russell: The quote is cool. We can put that quote on this one too and make it silver. Josh: Ooh. Ooh. Russell: Okay. This is my selfish pitch. Can I do- Josh: Hey guys, can Russel do a pitch real quick? Russell: Is it okay if I sell something? He says something to you. Keep in mind. I make no money off of this. I don't even know what he's doing. No, we have a little fun site we created just because that'd be fun called TshirtSmackdown.com where we have two shirts and then people vote with their wallets, which shirt they want better. So if you guys want these shirts, you could actually buy whichever one is your favorite, or both if you like them both. Just got to go to TshirtSmackdown.com and they're up there right now. And guess who was the models on TshirtSmackdown? I assume. Are we the models? Anyway, go to TshirtSmackdown.com, you can get one or two- Josh: Oh my gosh. Look at that big your team. Russell: We're super models! Josh: Your team's amazing, dude. They put it together that fast.. Okay. Let's geek out the book here for a second. Russell: Yeah. Josh: The audible door. That, the password that was audible. When I read that I was like, "Yes!" That's a brilliant mind at, it's like you have to say it. And the part that I thought was interesting was, it wasn't just the words he's like, and it's programmed to where it will not open unless the person that is saying it is actually like saying it with conviction or something to that effect. They actually have to like, mean it. Can't just be like, "Duh duh duh duh duh. Okay, I'm in." Like, now you guys want to read the book so bad. Okay. All right. We'll come back to the TshirtSmackdown, comment. down below. Let us know and let us know guys. Let's not go down the comments, if you're listening on audio you can go leave a rating and review and leave us in the comments. But like, if you're just listening, YouTube, Facebook, wherever, comment down below your favorite part of the conversation was so far. I think that'd be super cool. Okay. Let's geek out on the book for a second here. I actually have a lot of questions about the book, but I want to know, what was your favorite scene? Russell: Oh, Oh, so many good scenes. My favorite scene in the book. So it's kind of like the crescendo of the whole book. Because the whole book is asking, who's John Galt. Who's John Galt. Josh: Okay. Hold on. Sorry, David's sitting in the background. Have you read the book, Dave? Okay. So I'm just making sure that you're not just sitting over here, like freaking out. Dave's like I have to read it too. I was like, I need to talk to somebody. Dave, go read this. I'll see you in six months. Russell: So the whole books leader, who's John Galt, who's John Galt. We're kind of introduced to him a little bit when Dagny meets them. And then she leaves and goes back to the real world. And all of a sudden, there's this part where the looters and the government are trying to do this broadcast. And all of a sudden… (static noise) the broadcast is interrupted and they're trying figure how to fix it. But all of the people who would fix it have been taken- Josh: Because all the great minds as society are gone. Russell: And all of a sudden over the loud speaker comes John Galt and he starts the speech. And the speech I think is 80 pages in the book. It's four hours on the audio book, four hours. This is why you don't watch you to movie you by the way. Cause it's less than 30 seconds in the movie. Josh: How do you take out four hours? Russell: Oh, it's such a good... Anyway, he gets on this microphone broadcasting to the entire world, nobody can cut them off. And he gives this speech about… Josh: The entire book. Russell: I’m just freaking out… The set up. It was so crazy, all of a sudden it happened. I was like, "Whoa." And anyway, that was my- Josh: And he ends with this and he goes, and I'll say it one last time “I pledged my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man nor ask another man to live for mine.” Russell: Anyway, that was my favorite part. Josh: The 80 page. Four hour long version of it? Okay. Russell: Oh yeah. So good. Josh: Okay. I like that. My favorite part of the book, I read this and I was like... So, I like play my life on and act like I'm in a movie, right. Sometimes I'm like, do this. So do you remember what the wedding? Russell: Oh, Francisco speech. Dude! Josh: That might've been better. I promised Leah I would be done after this chapter. And it ends, and I'm like, "No!" Russell: The John Galt had a better buildup and then I didn't know it was coming, there's a wedding and everything. And then all of a sudden it starts happening. I was like- Josh: Out of freaking nowhere. Russell: Yeah. So Francisco, he gives a speech that was like, yeah, I wasn't expecting it. So I think it was less buildup, but it was amazing. Yeah. The John Galt buildup was like, this is like, I was waiting when you said movie. Because I was like, "It can be amazing." Then it's like, come on. Anyway. Yeah. Those are the two best parts. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. At that wedding... I'm reading this and it was like that moment I was like, "Okay. She finally made it all..." And that was relatively early on in the book. I was like, Oh, if the book follows anything like this, this is going to be such a good book. Right. Because he gets done with that and you're just... It's something you'd want to watch out in real life and know that somebody thought this up and they wrote down. You're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was so good. That was, that was hands down my favorite part. Russell: I want to read the book again, I wish it wasn't 1200 pages because I want to go back to experience it but it's so big. Josh: Okay. Have you read the cliff notes version of the book? Russell: No. Josh: Okay. So yeah. So there is there's, I think there's the cliff notes, like the one that you buy. I think it's like a four-hour audio book, I haven't listened to that one. But usually on cliffsnotes.com, can like read the book. You can basically get a summary of the whole book in like, 30 to 45 minutes. I read it. Russell: It's still worth reading though, you guys. Josh: Oh, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. But that's the reason I'm bring it up because I notice 1200 pages, but if you just read the Clifton, but you're like, "Oh, okay. Cool storyline." But you miss the effect of it all. Russell: One of the things that I thought was fascinating. Just because I'm working on my next book, which is not a how-to book, so I'm learning how to write differently. So I've been- Josh: Ooh, you want to tell us all about it? Russell: I'm really proud, excited for it. But one thing was interesting, if you look Ayn Rand did the dialogue in the book, she did all the dialogue, but it's just one person speaking. So it's fascinating. Every time you notice that, like when her partner was in the cafeteria with some guy we didn't know, you only hear his words, you never hear the other side. Josh: That's so true. Russell: Most of her dialogues were just, you heard the one person talking and you could get the gist of the conversation by reading one side, but they never had the other side and I'd never seen someone write that way before. And there's a lot of cool things like that where it's just like... Again, I've written three books now, but I wrote books with Google Docs, with editors and people. Like imagine writing a book in the fifties with a typewriter. Think how much forethought has to go to something like this. Josh: Yeah, that's wild. Russell: It is insane to think that. Yeah. So I have so much respect for people who wrote then. And especially, I'm trying to learn how to write as a story as opposed to how to, and the art of it is just fascinating. As a book, it's worth reading just to see how she wrote is fascinating as well. Josh: What was your biggest... Actually, I want to go down that rabbit hole a little bit further. So writing, is your next book fiction or not? Russell: No, it's just the next book is about bootstrap.com. Bootstrapping is the ClickFunnels story, but it's not like the how-to, it's telling the story as the story, which is going to be cool. Josh: Oh, that's going to be so good. Russell: First thing we're doing is all the core people who've been part of ClickFunnels story. We're flying them out and interviewing them for... I've been mapping out the entire timeline of events as close as I can remember and I'm going to interview... All the pieces from their point of view. Trying to get that from like 50 different people and then take all that stuff, think the timelines up and write the book as a story. So it's a different writing style I've never done before. Josh: That's interesting. Russell: Oh yeah. Dave wants to tell you the cool part. So I'm also like been re-geeking out on The Hero with a Thousand Faces and The Hero's 2 Journeys and all that stuff. Because I want to make sure... Well someday I want to try to sell it to Hollywood or something. So who knows? I don't have the end of the story yet, but like- Josh: Which is by the way, super fascinating because of how the concept concept of going for a target and then going towards it. Like, you don't know the end now you're just like, that is so cool. Russell: Oh yeah, and so it's cool. But I was like- Josh: Russell's so much fun to watch. Russell: So I've been, I've been geeking out on the hero's journey. So I'm like, I'm trying to sync the timeline of the ClickFunnels startup story to the timeline of The Hero with a Thousand Faces, all the core things. To see if I can get it to fit inside that framework, which I think we'll be able to do. it's going to be amazing. Then what I'm trying to do in my new office is I'm going to build the rumors, like a timeline, so the entire room wraps in a huge chalkboard with a timeline that goes around and it has the dates and the years of the journey and stuff. And then writing in each core thing on the wall. And then, you know how in the spy movies, you have like a string that goes and you have the pieces of paper. Josh: Yeah. Russell: As I'm writing the book, I'm going to have the whole thing timed out in a square room. And so you see it all and they can see all the pieces, how they all fit together. And then when the book's done, in that room, that'll be the wallpaper on the room. Josh: Oh my gosh. Okay. All right. So here's deal. Here's a great idea. So you do that up until a certain point, like this is modern day, and then there's an end of the wall. And then from that point to there, that's when you're writing and when you get to the end of the wall you have to sell everything and go into hiding and become John Galt. Like that book's done, I’m out. That's fascinating. Russell: But I get to write a story that's way different. It's not, like all my other books are how-to books so they're written differently. And so it's just been fun- Josh: Which by the way is why when I first got into entrepreneurship I was like, "I don't know why anybody would write a book that's not like that." Like I'm like, "Why would anybody write a book like this? This is so lame." And now I'm reading it and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is so cool." Russell: I tend to respect the books I'm reading now, I just finished Shoe Dog, which is the story of- Josh: Oh that's a great book. Russell: American Kingpin, which is the story of the silk road and the dark web, one of my favorite stories I've ever read, I've read it twice already. And the writer is probably the best writers I've ever. I read it and I was so depressed. I was like, I'll never write... Because I tried to hire him to write my book for me. And he's too busy. Josh: I will give you a blank check, just write this book. You're so much better than I could ever dream of. Russell: So I had to go and learn how to do it. Josh: What was the most fascinating thing about Atlas Shrugged, to you? Like, the way it was written or the concepts of the character, anything. What was the overall, the most fascinating part for you? Russell: Character development was so cool. I think the coolest thing for me was... I'd love to see a sim diagram because I don't know it, but each of the characters each played, like they were a character, they played a role that is like this magnified society as a group, almost. Right? Josh: Yeah. That's actually super true. Russell: Like, you have Hank Rearden and Dagny, and then... Josh: James Taggart. Russell: Taggart's wife. All the people, they were humans, but they were personification of a segment of society, which is really cool. And so seeing that where you're getting this micro versions, macro problem. That was cool because I never, again I don't study politics, I'm not deep into it so I don't know all these things. And you hear this character and you hear the story, and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, that represents this group of people that I..." And so for me, it was cool because I was able to understand things at a different level. And I'm not the best at this, I always try to put myself in other people's shoes. I try to understand... That's why I'm not super political, because they get so divisive and I see good on both sides. Like, I understand, I can love people on both sides of it. I think it was so cool for me because you see the pros and the cons of each thing. Right? You see the positives, negatives, each belief pattern. Josh: Yeah. Russell: I think Rearden, as much as I related to him, it was like, there's the good and evil, right? And all of them have that. So it was just cool because it gave me this perspective, I didn't know of so many different segments of society. It made this really cool tapestry and picture for me. Josh: Huh. All right. So now the polar opposite. What do you think the book lacked in? Or didn't communicate well or left out? Russell: I think, something we talked about today, I do feel like most of the producers in the book, they didn't have the other side of it. Right? The social stuff is important, helping other people is important and I get why she did it. Like I said, the Phil Donahue interview, she's like, "People should be social. They shouldn't do it with a gun." But she never showed that she, didn't show, Hank Rearden going in like, "Oh, this is a cause I care about like, let me go and..." Josh: At all, in any part. Russell: I think that stuff's important, that's why we talk about political. On the left side, what they're trying to do is good it's right, it's from God, it's so good things. Right? But there's ways that people twist and all sorts of stuff like that. And I wish they would have showed more of that because I felt like the characters were one sided where it's just, the people that are looters and the people that are producers. And I feel like there's more blend for all of us, we have blends of those things. And they did a good job as dissect- Josh: Super, yeah. Russell: You know? I think we all have all those things, I want to give, I want to serve, I want to do things, but I also want to produce, I want to do both those things. like how do I, what's the world look like where we do both of those things. And I don't know how to. In my little universe that I've created for myself and my family, I'm trying to produce. I'm trying to contribute and try and do my version of what I think is right. All we can do is what we think is right in our own little world that we create. And so this is my world I've created, I'm trying my best to do it. And I wish that they would have showed some of that side. But I think that that was a part, I feel, that the characters were missing just that part of it. Josh: So what's interesting- Russell: Christ-like, charity, love stuff. Josh: Okay. Well, and I'm so glad you brought this up, what I think is interesting, the thing that I felt like the book was lacking the most is nobody had kids. Russell: I didn't think about that. Josh: Think about this, none of them... Because one of my questions, she was going to be like, "How Was having a kid?" And I kind of asked her... Kind of changing perspective, but I'm like- Russell: Interesting. Josh: Nobody had kids. And I don't have kids. I'm not married, I don't have kids. I'm getting married. Russell: Yeah, woo hoo! Josh: By the way. Shout out to my beautiful fiance. All right. But for me, I'm so focused right now. So I grew up in a big family, right. Eight kids. I'm the oldest living. I had one other brother who passed away, but like six younger siblings. And like, my whole life changes once there's kids in it. And I know that even though I haven't experienced it, because I've seen it. And so for me, and Leah and I have talked about this like, "The twenties are for us, thirties are for kids." And so I'm like, "I got to make as much money as I possibly can before the because ah!" And I even told Colette this, I said, "If there's there was one thing that I would sacrifice my career for in order to be able to do, it'd be to homeschool my kids." I can't fathom sending my kids to public school, that's just me because I grew up homeschooled or whatnot. But as I was going through the book, I'm like, "I can relate to all of these people, but like they're leaving out like this key component." Imagine being Hank Rearden and living like he did, with your five kids. Or do you have? Russell: I have five. Josh: Yeah, I was going to say, before I was like, "Oh my gosh." So think about that. You know what I mean? And so I feel like one of the, because there's a lot of people I know that I've read Atlas Shrugged, like, "Heck yeah man, this is the greatest book ever, like for-profit blah, blah, blah." And I'm like, "Yeah. But like imagine living your life that way with a family." Imagine living your life like that with the kids and responsibilities, people that you actually like. How- Russell: I think about this. Because like our timeline, it comes back, we talk about growth and contribution. Right? So most of us, we get born. All of us, we get born right. Only way to get here, we're all born. Right? And from when you're born until you're, whatever, for me I got married at 22, I was 22. And so it's like the first 21 years, it's all about you. Right? It's selfish, it's growth. It's whatever it is, it's you, you, you. And everyone's very inward focused. And then all of a sudden you meet this beautiful person and then you fall in love, that's amazing. And also what happens is it shifts from you, you, you, to us. And you're giving, taking, giving taking, and it's cool because, all of a sudden all your focus isn't on you, it's on somebody else. But they're focused on you too and it's this amazing thing where like, I'm giving, but I'm also getting, it's this amazing thing. It's this transition that's easing you into kids because then kids come out and it flips now where it's like the opposite where you're just serving a hundred percent, especially the very beginning with kids. I was joking my kids about this one night when they're like, "Why are you guys so mean?" And I'm like, "Do you realize we get no value from this. We don't get paid a penny from this, there's nothing in parenting. We kill ourselves, we serve, we don't sleep. We work. We hate money." And that's not true, there's value. Josh: I'm just sitting here imagine Russel telling his kids, "We get no value, you do not pay us." Russell: I'm like, I'm killing myself. Josh: To be fair, you do get a tax break. Russell: Yeah. But especially when they're first born, they're cute and you get lots but they're in the selfish space now where you're giving a hundred percent and they're not giving back. Other than they giggle and cute and you're like, "Oh, so cute." But for the most part, you get this time where you're selfish and then it's like, "Oh, I'm serving someone else, but they're serving me." And amazing, then all of a sudden it's a hundred percent service there. And I think that that's a good point. Hank Rearden had only done this thing. And then, he never had a chance to like, a hundred percent serve somebody else and see what that's like. Because the value you get as a parent is when you serve a hundred percent of kids and you see like who they become, that's the value. But it doesn't come from the quid pro quo that you normally get with like, "I'm going to buy this thing or pay for this thing." Josh: Right. Russell: It's like, "I'm gonna serve, and serve, and serve." And eventually hope that someday they turn out to be cool. Josh: Yeah. And that's a super interesting point. And maybe that's why she left that part out of it because she was like, "None of these people would ever have kids-" Russell: And she didn't have kids, so that's a big… that might be the part, she's never seen that. At least not that I'm aware of, I'm pretty sure- Josh: That's crazy. Because going through I'm like, "This book I think would mean so much diff..." So when I first read it, like I said, whenever I first learned about this, back in high school, right. I read it. I hated reading. I publicly declared, and it's actually funny. When I graduated high school, I bought myself a pickup truck, I stood on the top of the pickup truck and I publicly declared to the world, I would never read another book ever again in life. I hated reading. So that's funny because now I'm reading 1200 page books and I've read every one of those books back there. It didn't really take on the same effect as now, being an entrepreneur, being someone at... Like at one point I had five employees and I'm 26 years old. So now I'm reading it and I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." But if I read it with kids, I feel like that would even give you a completely different perspective on like... How has having kids changed your... Because you're an entrepreneur basically from day one, right? You never really had a job. Right? Russell: I've served tables and stuff, I didn't have a job more than three months. Josh: Okay. So you're, you're a failure in the normal society, right? You can't hold a job, you get fired for... But how's having kids and having to balance... Because man, like, dude, you're running a... ClickFunnels is a billion dollar company. Right? We're allowed to say that? Like that's a thing, right? Like roughly, I'm not off on that. All right. Russell: The value is based what you will pay for so hopefully somebody pays that some day. Josh: So we're going to say a billion dollar company. So you're running this billion dollar company, you've made hundreds of millions of dollars, you've been payed a million dollars an hour from stage before... By the way, big props, congratulations. How has balancing work now with that, with the kids growing up, I feel like now they're at, because you're oldest is what, 12, 14 or 15. Right? So how has that changed the way that you view your work? Do you struggle with that? Like the balance. Russell: Yeah. Especially now with COVID stuff happening. Kids being homeschooled. Because before it was easy to separate because they're going to school, I'm going to here. Separation is easy. Now it's harder because it's they're still home. And it's like, "Oh, should I be there?" It's definitely tough. Yeah. It's interesting. I have so many entrepreneur friends, I always tease them because it's like, who don't have any kids and they're doing amazing things. I'm like, "Yeah. But I'm doing this stuff and I got five kids and a beautiful wife and I got callings in my church." And there's so many things. I hired a trainer, Dave knows a safe trainer. I remember when he started working with us, he said the biggest thing he knows me start working with me is that you'll be shocked what your body can actually endure. I think that most people don't understand what they could actually do. How do you run a company this big and have a family and have a successful marriage and have these... You can do it, and most people don't because they sedate. And like, I don't watch four hours of football a night because I have all these other things. Right. I don't know, it's just you take away the excuse of sedation you can produce so much more than people are able to understand. I don't know. So it's interesting. And then it's been such a weird thing too, with kids, because I think when you first start having kids, you assume they're all going to be like you. Like, "Oh, they're all going to be entrepreneurs." And then I had twins, it was crazy, our first two that came out are twins. Now they're 14, almost 15. It's crazy because I assumed they'd all be the same, the same as me or the same together. And they are so polar opposites. Josh: Yeah, I didn't even know, I just found out today that they were twins. I had no clue. Colette's like, "Yeah they're both turning 15." I'm like, "Wait, what?" Russell: Yeah. They don’t look like each other, they don’t act like each other. One's more entrepreneurial. One's more, if you look at disc profile, I have a DI and we have an SC. Josh: Oh my God. Russell: Introvert, extrovert. All the things are different. And I always thought, you know, my kids are going to be entrepreneurs like me and now I don't think they have to be. It goes back to what we talked about earlier. With my kids, I'm like, "What do you want to do?" And I think some of my kids are very entrepreneurial, a lot of them aren't. I think some of my kids are super smart, hard workers who are going to be amazing at the roles they play in something, they're going to be a huge part of changing somebody's world, but it's not going to be the front person of it. And so it's been interesting watching that and fulfilling and hard and it's all the things wrapped into one. It's an interesting experience, you're going to love it. You should start having kids right away. Josh: Yeah. That's not going to happen. But why though? Russell: Because you should know, it takes time. Josh: Okay. But how long did you go? How long did you wait? Russell: Uh, two? Let's see, we had our 18 year anniversary, the kids are turning 15. So almost three years. We tried earlier, but we had fertility drugs, stuff like that and everything, But yeah, so about probably two years and when started trying. Josh: Yeah. I can't... Kids scare me dude. But it's interesting because like I grew up with six younger siblings. So I was definitely old enough to remember the whole diaper phase and like, you know... Obviously I wasn't a parent with it. And the church that I went to, eight was like average to small amount of kids. A lot of them were like 13 kids, 12 kids, 14 kids, whatever. I think the smallest in our whole church was four, and they were the weird ones. Russell: "You only have four kids? What's wrong with you?" Josh: Right. And so everywhere we went, that's just what it was. So for me, I had that rebellion phase, if you will. I don't want to call it rebellion phase, but where I was like, "I don't want any of this. Why would you... They're expensive and they suck all the time. And I can't go do this." I'm like, "I want to be so filthy read before I go having kids." And I taught Sunday school and was very involved in the church growing up and things like that. So for me it was like, "I want to go build my business, doing that is more fun." The interesting thing about kids. And I told my parents this, I don't remember when it was, but my parents aren't super wealthy or successful when it comes to business or anything like that. But I look at my parents as some of the most successful people that I've ever met in my life, because my mom's favorite... There's little things that my mom told me over and over and over again. And one of her famous lines is, "The only thing I need to know in life is I just need to know that my children walk in truth." Right. And my mom, particularly, and my dad too, like both of them, but I relate it with my mom, cause she'd keep saying it, it's like my mom's definition of success and achievement was, "Do my children walk in truth?" That is what was success to her. And she's like, "Yeah, money would have been great, like all these different things." But that was kind of the pinnacle of success for her is, do my kids walk in truth. And so as I have gone through my own journey of faith, which has been, I mean, it has been rough at times, right? I've watched her struggle with it and freak out because she's like, "I just want..." But that's not her journey to bear, but it is at the same time. And so it's always been interesting, kids are this thing where I feel like once I have them, obviously I'm there for the rest of my life, but I feel like there's this stress or there's this new piece of my life that's unlocked that I've never explored before. I don't know anything about it. And I'm like, afraid isn't the right word, but I'm pushing that off as long as I possibly can because once that's opened then I never get to close it again. And that mystery is almost fun to like look forward to, but at the same time, I get to focus over here. Russell: Essentially I remember thinking about this a lot, especially for the first two years. I was like, "his is so much harder than I thought it was going to be." Flat out, way harder. But also remember feeling and thinking out loud, "This is so much cooler than I ever dreamt it was going to be." Like this double-edged sword. And I was like, "Man, I didn't realize how tired and worn out." And all these things. But then so much better than I thought. It's funny. Cause I had a lot of friends who are like, “well, I want to make money, and then I’ll have kids”. I don't think, I don't know. It's different. I would just have kids, you can do both. It's not impossible. Especially when they're first born, they just sit there. I would spend a year or two and just not- Josh: Right, right, right. Russell: But I wouldn't wait until like, "Oh, I need a million bucks in the bank." I get people all the time, I know people that are broke, that have eight kids. They're not that expensive. Like, Cheerios are not that expensive, if you need to. It's just being willing to be there and be loving and be being present for as much as you can. Another thing that's been interesting, especially now that our kids are going to be teenagers, it's like so much harder. That's harder. Josh: Really that's harder than when they're young. Russell: Oh, for sure. Yeah. Josh: Dave's over here just laughing. Russell: It's different- Josh: Oh gosh. What am I in for Dave? Oh no. Russell: Yeah. The young part is like, "I'm tired." That's a hard part when they're young. When they're older, it's just like, am I messing these kids up, I just want them to be successful. That's the bigger fear. I remember a little thing that gave me some grace, Tom Bilyeu, I heard of this Instagram post about him talking about being a parent, and it was so funny because he's like, "Who here is scared that you're going to eff up your kids?" That was how he would have said it. Josh: Right, yeah. Russell: I would say “mess up”. Who's gonna mess up your kids. And everyone's hands like, "Yeah. I'm scared." He's like, "Guess what?..." I got to make sure I gets right. He's like, "My parents messed me up. You're going to mess your kids up. But guess what? We turned out okay in the end. Just be okay with the fact that you're going to mess your kids up because you are." And I remember, I was like, "Okay, everyone messed up their kids, that's part of it." That's part of the whole journey, that's the journey. And it gave me some grace of just like, "Look, I'm going to do my best. I'm probably going to mess them up." But at the same time you have to have faith, they're going to do their thing and they're going to hopefully make the decisions. And if not, that's why we have God. That's why we have repentance. And just in the kind of leaving it to leave it to him and do your best. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome back to part 3 of this special episode series. Today Russell and Josh try to answer the question, “does everybody need to be an entrepreneur?” They also talk about celebrating other people’s success and how having kids has changed the way they work. So listen in and enjoy part 3 of this very special interview.

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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. We're about to start the third part of our five-part Atlas Shrugged interview series.

I hope you guys enjoyed part one and part two. I'm sure there are things that you agreed with, I'm sure there are things you disagreed with, that's okay. This whole thing is not about me trying to force anything on you, it's more just to get us all thinking and open the conversations and help us look at things from both sides.

With that said, we're going to move now into the third part of the interview series. Again, we broke down our three and a half hour interview into five podcasts episodes. I know these are long, but I hope you're enjoying them. And hopefully it's just getting the wheels spinning. Hopefully, you're enjoying it. And I really hope that it gives you the desire to go and read the Atlas Shrugged book and kind of see some of these principles through that lens.

So, with that said, we'll queue up the theme song. When we get back, you'll have a chance to listen to part three of my interview with Josh Forti.

Josh Forti:

Okay. I want to circle back to one quick thing and then we can move on.

Russell Brunson:

Okay.

Josh:

So the question I was trying to ask was, when you were like, "Hey, there's the technician or there's the plumber, there's this, or there's that or then there's the person that comes in and makes it rain."

There's only a few people in an organization that like, make it rain, right? Like you in ClickFunnels, you make it rain. You're the one that brings it in and, I'm sure there's other people to a certain extent, but you are that person. And you probably have what, 100, 200 people on the support team? That don't actually make the company any money, but they do play a critical role in the sense that the company couldn't function without them. And so, to those people there, how does somebody who...

Two-part question. One, can you live your best life in a position like that? Can you be most alive and fulfilled and live a great life, doing something average like that?

Number two, does that person need to go learn how to make it rain? Does everybody need to be an entrepreneur? Does everybody need to be... Like, you are so fascinating, you got this whole community of funnel hackers and like, "We're going to go out and choose a world. We think differently. We do it differently. We got all this stuff." Would it be good if the whole world thought that way? Or do we need people that don't think that way?

Russell:

There was a time in life where I thought everyone should think that way. I don't think so now. I have family members who love what they do and they're obsessed with the art, like the art is what they do. Some people... I've had good masseuses and bad masseuses. Some masseuses, that is their art, you can tell, you're just like, "Oh, my gosh. They're the best at their craft." And I think that's okay, I think if it brings fulfillment, that's more important. But people aren't fulfilled, that's the second question. If you're not fulfilled then why, you know? And I think one of the most powerful things, Myron Golden taught this at Funnel Hacking live, and he taught it at two comma club a couple times, he has a thing called the four levels of value. It's so fascinating because…

Josh: Such a good one.

Russell:

Yeah, it's so good. The first level of value, for those who haven't heard this before, is it just talks about I'm going to not do it justice, Martin's the man. One of the greatest speakers of all-

Josh:

Tell YouTube. Actually I don't even know, if it's on YouTube.

Russell:

It's on my... Anyway, yes. So bottom level is, people work their hands, right? And this is the hardest work. Like, the person that's actually building the building. Or typing, you're doing support, or whatever the thing is, they're working with their hands. That's the lowest level of value, right? Like the most you make when you're, when you work with your hands is maybe 50, 60, $70,000 a year, but you're tapped out, you can't get higher than that. Now, if that's your calling and you're good at, and you love it, go all in. Become the best in the world at that thing, and that's totally cool. But you cap out on salary, you can't make more money at a certain point. Because that's the value of that tier value.

The next tier value, if you move up one tier, is management. Somebody who can manage all of the workers. And there's people... One of the big mistakes we made inside of ClickFunnels, we took the people inside of our team who were the best workers and we upgraded them to management and they were horrible managers, amazing workers moved into management. And they weren't managers, this is a different mindset. They can go learn that, but that's not where they were gifted. And a lot of times it was irreparable, we couldn't move them back down because in their mind, like, "Oh I'm a manager now." It's like, "No."

I think one of things we learned is someone can be a worker and make more money than the manager. Just because sometimes their skillset, like the programmers and developers, getting an amazing programmer to code something is, a lot of times, worth more than the managers managing that person.

But in most businesses, most organizations, manager's next tier, right? Because you make more money as a manager because you're managing a lot of workers, as opposed to one.

Then you go up the next tier value and it's the communicators. People learn how to talk and to sell, that's the next thing. You make more selling and you do managing, and you typically make more managing than you do actually doing the thing. And not everyone's going to be great salespeople. I think it's a teachable skill. I think you may have seen my early videos, everyone thinks this is a gift that I was born with. It is not, it is something that's been developed.

Josh:

Guys, you should go look at Russell's old videos, they're so embarrassing.

Russell:

They are the worst ever. Yeah, when I was your age I would not have been able to do this, it's crazy.

So that tier is the communicators and the top tier are the visionaries. Imagining it, you're using your brain to make money. So your use your brain, your mouth, your management skills or your hands. Those are the four tiers of value. So I think wherever you fit in there, that's cool, we need people all the tiers, but like... I did a podcast about this the other day, I'm like, "Whatever you going to be, don't just be a person doing it, become the best in the world."

We were in Oakville Tony's Event and we're in a hotel and it was kind of weird because there's a spa, so like, all excited to get massages, but it's also COVID right now. So the masseuses have masks on, they have plastic gloves, it was weird. And I got my very first massage, they paid for two massage it. So I was like, "It'll be fun." The first massage was so bad. I was like, "I never want to get a massage again, ever." It was so bad and I'm sitting there on the table, it was only an hour long massage, by the time it was done I was like, "I want to get out of here, this is just weird and horrible." I did not enjoy it. And I'm a massage person.

Josh:

Yeah. I love massage.

Russell:

And I was to the point I'd never want massage again, but they'd already booked us for the next day for the second one. And I was annoyed. I went to the second one and same thing. She's got plastic gloves on like we have to do and the mask. And I'm just kind of like, "Oh, I don't even want to be here." And then she puts her hands on me and it's just like, it was art, it was different. And both of them are doing the same job, right? But somebody was like, "I want to be the best the world." Versus, "Oh, I'm just doing the thing."

And you see that in every area of life, the chiropractors, there's chiropractors, that are good and there's ones that are great. Doctors, dentists, business. I'm more, wherever you're at, don't just be mediocre, become the best in the world there. That's more important to me than... You know, if you can be a plumber, be the plumber who you walk in... Like we've had, our house, so many plumbers come in. We had some that come and they fix the leak and then something else breaks and they go “uh…” And other guys should come in to check everything, they make sure it's perfect. I want that person, I want the artists I want the person that this is their art and not just like, "Ugh, best job I could find."

Josh:

Yeah. All right, so now I'm about to ask you a question and I understand this is totally your opinion on it, maybe you have something to base it on. So, the person that is at those lower levels of value, the average worker that's out there, that's doing their thing, especially in today's super soft victim mentality America that wants to vote for free stuff. Makes me so mad.

Anyway. The average person that's out there, looks up at people that make a lot of money and the general consensus, I think, or the way that America slash the world is going is, rich people are bad, right? Like, "You're so greedy, man. You got all his money and you're not giving any to me, you get to go sit in your massive house and your cars and you can do whatever you want." And so, even if they are doing what they are called to do, they'll look up to a millionaire, a billionaire, somebody that has all this stuff and they'll look at it as bad. Like that shouldn't happen.

How do you create a society? And this is why... I know this is big picture type stuff, but how do you create a society that allows people to be okay with being the best version of themselves where they're at without looking at you and being like, "You're bad."? You know what I mean?

Russell:

Yeah. Well, it's not going to happen in our lifetime. It's not going to happen, my belief, till Christ comes again. And when he does, it'll be a perfect, you know, things will be great. But until then, it's not going to happen because humans are humans. Right?

Josh:

You mean Donald Trump's not going to just fix everything?

Russell:

Oh, if he does that'd be amazing but I'm not holding my breath.

But I would say more so just, for anyone who feels that way, I would look at that more... And I did a podcast about this, if you're not someone who celebrates other people's successes, everybody, I don't care if you hate the person, if you're a big fan or you're not a big fan, if you don't celebrate their success, then you are going to struggle to ever be successful because you're going to be so scared of other people not celebrating your success.

I remember... I am not a huge Gary Vee fan, you know this, for reasons I'll talk about in my next book. But-

Josh:

When I tweet this out on Twitter, Gary, when you follow me, shout out, by the way, The Patriots won the Superbowl more than The Jets. Just throw that out there. All right, continue. I just guaranteed he'd never come on my podcast.

Russell:

I do like Gary, I just, we had a thing, but whatever, he doesn't remember it, I'm sure. But anyway, he got the shoe deal with... Whatever the shoes.

Josh:

Adidas.

Russell:

And he's going to market and for half a second, I was like, "That sucks." And then I was like, "You freaking he's in our industry and he got a shoe deal!" And I ran to my computer.

Josh:

Or K-Swiss, yeah.

Russell:

The K-Swiss. I bought the shoes. I got them… And I did a podcast, celebrating the fact that someone in our community got a shoe deal and all these things. And most people that I know were like, "I thought you're not a big Gary fan." I'm like, "I'm not, but that's a huge success, we should celebrate success."

Because if you don't, then what's going to automatically happen in your head. If you're Not celebrating people's successes then you have the subconscious fear that someone's not going to do yours. And so you're going to stifle yourself and be successful. So I try when anybody around me is having success. Whether I like them or I don't like them, I always am like, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to try to celebrate it." And then by doing that it changes your brain to the spot where you're okay having success, because you're assuming everyone's going to celebrate like you. And they're not going to, but it's different subconsciously. If you are not celebrating other people's successes it will stifle you from ever having your own.

And so I think that's a big part of... If that's where you're at right now, it's something you got to change. And when you start making that little shift and start celebrating people's successes above you, it's freeing, it's amazing. Because then all of a sudden you're unlocking yourself, like I can succeed because they did and people are going to celebrate me. And it shifts those like psychological things that you do and it changes everything. It's weird.

Josh:

Do you think... You're not political, like hardly at all. Like, do you even pay attention?

Russell:

No, not too much. I was like, so those who read the book, Hank Rearden, and this is part of his demise, is he doesn't pay attention to it at all. So as I read the book, I'm like, Hank Rearden, doesn't pay attention, I don't pay attention.

Real quick, can we do a shout out for these shirts again? You guys have seen them? By the way, how many of you guys would like one of these shirts?

Josh:

Ooh let's make them comment for this first.

Russell Brunson:

Okay.

Josh:

Guys, how many of you want to shirt? Yes or no. Comment yes or no down below.

Russell:

So this is the Rearden Steel one. And this is who is John Galt? One.

Josh:

Very dope. I'm not going to lie though. Like that was pretty dope, but this one wins for one reason.

Russell:

The quote is cool. We can put that quote on this one too and make it silver.

Josh:

Ooh. Ooh.

Russell:

Okay. This is my selfish pitch. Can I do-

Josh:

Hey guys, can Russel do a pitch real quick?

Russell:

Is it okay if I sell something? He says something to you. Keep in mind. I make no money off of this. I don't even know what he's doing.

No, we have a little fun site we created just because that'd be fun called TshirtSmackdown.com where we have two shirts and then people vote with their wallets, which shirt they want better. So if you guys want these shirts, you could actually buy whichever one is your favorite, or both if you like them both. Just got to go to TshirtSmackdown.com and they're up there right now. And guess who was the models on TshirtSmackdown? I assume. Are we the models?

Anyway, go to TshirtSmackdown.com, you can get one or two-

Josh:

Oh my gosh. Look at that big your team.

Russell:

We're super models!

Josh:

Your team's amazing, dude. They put it together that fast..

Okay. Let's geek out the book here for a second.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

The audible door. That, the password that was audible. When I read that I was like, "Yes!" That's a brilliant mind at, it's like you have to say it. And the part that I thought was interesting was, it wasn't just the words he's like, and it's programmed to where it will not open unless the person that is saying it is actually like saying it with conviction or something to that effect. They actually have to like, mean it. Can't just be like, "Duh duh duh duh duh. Okay, I'm in." Like, now you guys want to read the book so bad. Okay. All right. We'll come back to the TshirtSmackdown, comment.

down below. Let us know and let us know guys. Let's not go down the comments, if you're listening on audio you can go leave a rating and review and leave us in the comments. But like, if you're just listening, YouTube, Facebook, wherever, comment down below your favorite part of the conversation was so far. I think that'd be super cool.

Okay. Let's geek out on the book for a second here. I actually have a lot of questions about the book, but I want to know, what was your favorite scene?

Russell:

Oh, Oh, so many good scenes. My favorite scene in the book. So it's kind of like the crescendo of the whole book. Because the whole book is asking, who's John Galt. Who's John Galt.

Josh:

Okay. Hold on. Sorry, David's sitting in the background. Have you read the book, Dave? Okay. So I'm just making sure that you're not just sitting over here, like freaking out. Dave's like I have to read it too. I was like, I need to talk to somebody. Dave, go read this. I'll see you in six months.

Russell:

So the whole books leader, who's John Galt, who's John Galt. We're kind of introduced to him a little bit when Dagny meets them. And then she leaves and goes back to the real world. And all of a sudden, there's this part where the looters and the government are trying to do this broadcast. And all of a sudden… (static noise) the broadcast is interrupted and they're trying figure how to fix it. But all of the people who would fix it have been taken-

Josh:

Because all the great minds as society are gone.

Russell:

And all of a sudden over the loud speaker comes John Galt and he starts the speech. And the speech I think is 80 pages in the book. It's four hours on the audio book, four hours. This is why you don't watch you to movie you by the way. Cause it's less than 30 seconds in the movie.

Josh:

How do you take out four hours?

Russell:

Oh, it's such a good... Anyway, he gets on this microphone broadcasting to the entire world, nobody can cut them off. And he gives this speech about…

Josh:

The entire book.

Russell:

I’m just freaking out… The set up. It was so crazy, all of a sudden it happened. I was like, "Whoa." And anyway, that was my-

Josh:

And he ends with this and he goes, and I'll say it one last time “I pledged my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man nor ask another man to live for mine.”

Russell:

Anyway, that was my favorite part.

Josh:

The 80 page. Four hour long version of it? Okay.

Russell:

Oh yeah. So good.

Josh:

Okay. I like that. My favorite part of the book, I read this and I was like... So, I like play my life on and act like I'm in a movie, right. Sometimes I'm like, do this. So do you remember what the wedding?

Russell:

Oh, Francisco speech. Dude!

Josh:

That might've been better. I promised Leah I would be done after this chapter. And it ends, and I'm like, "No!"

Russell:

The John Galt had a better buildup and then I didn't know it was coming, there's a wedding and everything. And then all of a sudden it starts happening. I was like-

Josh:

Out of freaking nowhere.

Russell:

Yeah. So Francisco, he gives a speech that was like, yeah, I wasn't expecting it. So I think it was less buildup, but it was amazing. Yeah. The John Galt buildup was like, this is like, I was waiting when you said movie. Because I was like, "It can be amazing." Then it's like, come on. Anyway. Yeah. Those are the two best parts.

Josh:

Yeah. Yeah. At that wedding... I'm reading this and it was like that moment I was like, "Okay. She finally made it all..." And that was relatively early on in the book. I was like, Oh, if the book follows anything like this, this is going to be such a good book. Right. Because he gets done with that and you're just... It's something you'd want to watch out in real life and know that somebody thought this up and they wrote down. You're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was so good. That was, that was hands down my favorite part.

Russell:

I want to read the book again, I wish it wasn't 1200 pages because I want to go back to experience it but it's so big.

Josh:

Okay. Have you read the cliff notes version of the book?

Russell:

No.

Josh:

Okay. So yeah. So there is there's, I think there's the cliff notes, like the one that you buy. I think it's like a four-hour audio book, I haven't listened to that one. But usually on cliffsnotes.com, can like read the book. You can basically get a summary of the whole book in like, 30 to 45 minutes. I read it.

Russell:

It's still worth reading though, you guys.

Josh:

Oh, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. But that's the reason I'm bring it up because I notice 1200 pages, but if you just read the Clifton, but you're like, "Oh, okay. Cool storyline." But you miss the effect of it all.

Russell:

One of the things that I thought was fascinating. Just because I'm working on my next book, which is not a how-to book, so I'm learning how to write differently. So I've been-

Josh:

Ooh, you want to tell us all about it?

Russell:

I'm really proud, excited for it. But one thing was interesting, if you look Ayn Rand did the dialogue in the book, she did all the dialogue, but it's just one person speaking. So it's fascinating. Every time you notice that, like when her partner was in the cafeteria with some guy we didn't know, you only hear his words, you never hear the other side.

Josh:

That's so true.

Russell:

Most of her dialogues were just, you heard the one person talking and you could get the gist of the conversation by reading one side, but they never had the other side and I'd never seen someone write that way before. And there's a lot of cool things like that where it's just like... Again, I've written three books now, but I wrote books with Google Docs, with editors and people. Like imagine writing a book in the fifties with a typewriter. Think how much forethought has to go to something like this.

Josh:

Yeah, that's wild.

Russell:

It is insane to think that. Yeah. So I have so much respect for people who wrote then. And especially, I'm trying to learn how to write as a story as opposed to how to, and the art of it is just fascinating. As a book, it's worth reading just to see how she wrote is fascinating as well.

Josh:

What was your biggest... Actually, I want to go down that rabbit hole a little bit further. So writing, is your next book fiction or not?

Russell:

No, it's just the next book is about bootstrap.com. Bootstrapping is the ClickFunnels story, but it's not like the how-to, it's telling the story as the story, which is going to be cool.

Josh:

Oh, that's going to be so good.

Russell:

First thing we're doing is all the core people who've been part of ClickFunnels story. We're flying them out and interviewing them for... I've been mapping out the entire timeline of events as close as I can remember and I'm going to interview... All the pieces from their point of view. Trying to get that from like 50 different people and then take all that stuff, think the timelines up and write the book as a story. So it's a different writing style I've never done before.

Josh:

That's interesting.

Russell:

Oh yeah. Dave wants to tell you the cool part. So I'm also like been re-geeking out on The Hero with a Thousand Faces and The Hero's 2 Journeys and all that stuff. Because I want to make sure... Well someday I want to try to sell it to Hollywood or something. So who knows? I don't have the end of the story yet, but like-

Josh:

Which is by the way, super fascinating because of how the concept concept of going for a target and then going towards it. Like, you don't know the end now you're just like, that is so cool.

Russell:

Oh yeah, and so it's cool. But I was like-

Josh:

Russell's so much fun to watch.

Russell:

So I've been, I've been geeking out on the hero's journey. So I'm like, I'm trying to sync the timeline of the ClickFunnels startup story to the timeline of The Hero with a Thousand Faces, all the core things. To see if I can get it to fit inside that framework, which I think we'll be able to do. it's going to be amazing. Then what I'm trying to do in my new office is I'm going to build the rumors, like a timeline, so the entire room wraps in a huge chalkboard with a timeline that goes around and it has the dates and the years of the journey and stuff. And then writing in each core thing on the wall. And then, you know how in the spy movies, you have like a string that goes and you have the pieces of paper.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

As I'm writing the book, I'm going to have the whole thing timed out in a square room. And so you see it all and they can see all the pieces, how they all fit together. And then when the book's done, in that room, that'll be the wallpaper on the room.

Josh:

Oh my gosh. Okay. All right. So here's deal. Here's a great idea. So you do that up until a certain point, like this is modern day, and then there's an end of the wall. And then from that point to there, that's when you're writing and when you get to the end of the wall you have to sell everything and go into hiding and become John Galt. Like that book's done, I’m out. That's fascinating.

Russell:

But I get to write a story that's way different. It's not, like all my other books are how-to books so they're written differently. And so it's just been fun-

Josh:

Which by the way is why when I first got into entrepreneurship I was like, "I don't know why anybody would write a book that's not like that." Like I'm like, "Why would anybody write a book like this? This is so lame." And now I'm reading it and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is so cool."

Russell:

I tend to respect the books I'm reading now, I just finished Shoe Dog, which is the story of-

Josh:

Oh that's a great book.

Russell:

American Kingpin, which is the story of the silk road and the dark web, one of my favorite stories I've ever read, I've read it twice already. And the writer is probably the best writers I've ever. I read it and I was so depressed. I was like, I'll never write... Because I tried to hire him to write my book for me. And he's too busy.

Josh:

I will give you a blank check, just write this book. You're so much better than I could ever dream of.

Russell:

So I had to go and learn how to do it.

Josh:

What was the most fascinating thing about Atlas Shrugged, to you? Like, the way it was written or the concepts of the character, anything. What was the overall, the most fascinating part for you?

Russell:

Character development was so cool. I think the coolest thing for me was... I'd love to see a sim diagram because I don't know it, but each of the characters each played, like they were a character, they played a role that is like this magnified society as a group, almost. Right?

Josh:

Yeah. That's actually super true.

Russell:

Like, you have Hank Rearden and Dagny, and then...

Josh:

James Taggart.

Russell:

Taggart's wife. All the people, they were humans, but they were personification of a segment of society, which is really cool. And so seeing that where you're getting this micro versions, macro problem. That was cool because I never, again I don't study politics, I'm not deep into it so I don't know all these things. And you hear this character and you hear the story, and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh my gosh, that represents this group of people that I..." And so for me, it was cool because I was able to understand things at a different level. And I'm not the best at this, I always try to put myself in other people's shoes. I try to understand... That's why I'm not super political, because they get so divisive and I see good on both sides. Like, I understand, I can love people on both sides of it. I think it was so cool for me because you see the pros and the cons of each thing. Right? You see the positives, negatives, each belief pattern.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

I think Rearden, as much as I related to him, it was like, there's the good and evil, right? And all of them have that. So it was just cool because it gave me this perspective, I didn't know of so many different segments of society. It made this really cool tapestry and picture for me.

Josh:

Huh. All right. So now the polar opposite. What do you think the book lacked in? Or didn't communicate well or left out?

Russell:

I think, something we talked about today, I do feel like most of the producers in the book, they didn't have the other side of it. Right? The social stuff is important, helping other people is important and I get why she did it. Like I said, the Phil Donahue interview, she's like, "People should be social. They shouldn't do it with a gun." But she never showed that she, didn't show, Hank Rearden going in like, "Oh, this is a cause I care about like, let me go and..."

Josh:

At all, in any part.

Russell:

I think that stuff's important, that's why we talk about political. On the left side, what they're trying to do is good it's right, it's from God, it's so good things. Right? But there's ways that people twist and all sorts of stuff like that. And I wish they would have showed more of that because I felt like the characters were one sided where it's just, the people that are looters and the people that are producers. And I feel like there's more blend for all of us, we have blends of those things. And they did a good job as dissect-

Josh:

Super, yeah.

Russell:

You know? I think we all have all those things, I want to give, I want to serve, I want to do things, but I also want to produce, I want to do both those things. like how do I, what's the world look like where we do both of those things. And I don't know how to. In my little universe that I've created for myself and my family, I'm trying to produce. I'm trying to contribute and try and do my version of what I think is right. All we can do is what we think is right in our own little world that we create. And so this is my world I've created, I'm trying my best to do it. And I wish that they would have showed some of that side. But I think that that was a part, I feel, that the characters were missing just that part of it.

Josh:

So what's interesting-

Russell:

Christ-like, charity, love stuff.

Josh:

Okay. Well, and I'm so glad you brought this up, what I think is interesting, the thing that I felt like the book was lacking the most is nobody had kids.

Russell:

I didn't think about that.

Josh:

Think about this, none of them... Because one of my questions, she was going to be like, "How Was having a kid?" And I kind of asked her... Kind of changing perspective, but I'm like-

Russell:

Interesting.

Josh:

Nobody had kids. And I don't have kids. I'm not married, I don't have kids. I'm getting married.

Russell:

Yeah, woo hoo!

Josh:

By the way. Shout out to my beautiful fiance.

All right. But for me, I'm so focused right now. So I grew up in a big family, right. Eight kids. I'm the oldest living. I had one other brother who passed away, but like six younger siblings. And like, my whole life changes once there's kids in it. And I know that even though I haven't experienced it, because I've seen it. And so for me, and Leah and I have talked about this like, "The twenties are for us, thirties are for kids." And so I'm like, "I got to make as much money as I possibly can before the because ah!"

And I even told Colette this, I said, "If there's there was one thing that I would sacrifice my career for in order to be able to do, it'd be to homeschool my kids." I can't fathom sending my kids to public school, that's just me because I grew up homeschooled or whatnot. But as I was going through the book, I'm like, "I can relate to all of these people, but like they're leaving out like this key component." Imagine being Hank Rearden and living like he did, with your five kids. Or do you have?

Russell:

I have five.

Josh:

Yeah, I was going to say, before I was like, "Oh my gosh."

So think about that. You know what I mean? And so I feel like one of the, because there's a lot of people I know that I've read Atlas Shrugged, like, "Heck yeah man, this is the greatest book ever, like for-profit blah, blah, blah." And I'm like, "Yeah. But like imagine living your life that way with a family." Imagine living your life like that with the kids and responsibilities, people that you actually like. How-

Russell:

I think about this. Because like our timeline, it comes back, we talk about growth and contribution. Right? So most of us, we get born. All of us, we get born right. Only way to get here, we're all born. Right? And from when you're born until you're, whatever, for me I got married at 22, I was 22. And so it's like the first 21 years, it's all about you. Right? It's selfish, it's growth. It's whatever it is, it's you, you, you. And everyone's very inward focused. And then all of a sudden you meet this beautiful person and then you fall in love, that's amazing. And also what happens is it shifts from you, you, you, to us. And you're giving, taking, giving taking, and it's cool because, all of a sudden all your focus isn't on you, it's on somebody else. But they're focused on you too and it's this amazing thing where like, I'm giving, but I'm also getting, it's this amazing thing.

It's this transition that's easing you into kids because then kids come out and it flips now where it's like the opposite where you're just serving a hundred percent, especially the very beginning with kids. I was joking my kids about this one night when they're like, "Why are you guys so mean?" And I'm like, "Do you realize we get no value from this. We don't get paid a penny from this, there's nothing in parenting. We kill ourselves, we serve, we don't sleep. We work. We hate money." And that's not true, there's value.

Josh:

I'm just sitting here imagine Russel telling his kids, "We get no value, you do not pay us."

Russell:

I'm like, I'm killing myself.

Josh:

To be fair, you do get a tax break.

Russell:

Yeah. But especially when they're first born, they're cute and you get lots but they're in the selfish space now where you're giving a hundred percent and they're not giving back. Other than they giggle and cute and you're like, "Oh, so cute." But for the most part, you get this time where you're selfish and then it's like, "Oh, I'm serving someone else, but they're serving me." And amazing, then all of a sudden it's a hundred percent service there. And I think that that's a good point. Hank Rearden had only done this thing. And then, he never had a chance to like, a hundred percent serve somebody else and see what that's like. Because the value you get as a parent is when you serve a hundred percent of kids and you see like who they become, that's the value. But it doesn't come from the quid pro quo that you normally get with like, "I'm going to buy this thing or pay for this thing."

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

It's like, "I'm gonna serve, and serve, and serve." And eventually hope that someday they turn out to be cool.

Josh:

Yeah. And that's a super interesting point. And maybe that's why she left that part out of it because she was like, "None of these people would ever have kids-"

Russell:

And she didn't have kids, so that's a big… that might be the part, she's never seen that. At least not that I'm aware of, I'm pretty sure-

Josh:

That's crazy. Because going through I'm like, "This book I think would mean so much diff..." So when I first read it, like I said, whenever I first learned about this, back in high school, right. I read it. I hated reading. I publicly declared, and it's actually funny. When I graduated high school, I bought myself a pickup truck, I stood on the top of the pickup truck and I publicly declared to the world, I would never read another book ever again in life. I hated reading. So that's funny because now I'm reading 1200 page books and I've read every one of those books back there.

It didn't really take on the same effect as now, being an entrepreneur, being someone at... Like at one point I had five employees and I'm 26 years old. So now I'm reading it and I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." But if I read it with kids, I feel like that would even give you a completely different perspective on like... How has having kids changed your... Because you're an entrepreneur basically from day one, right? You never really had a job. Right?

Russell:

I've served tables and stuff, I didn't have a job more than three months.

Josh:

Okay. So you're, you're a failure in the normal society, right? You can't hold a job, you get fired for... But how's having kids and having to balance... Because man, like, dude, you're running a... ClickFunnels is a billion dollar company. Right? We're allowed to say that? Like that's a thing, right? Like roughly, I'm not off on that. All right.

Russell:

The value is based what you will pay for so hopefully somebody pays that some day.

Josh:

So we're going to say a billion dollar company. So you're running this billion dollar company, you've made hundreds of millions of dollars, you've been payed a million dollars an hour from stage before... By the way, big props, congratulations. How has balancing work now with that, with the kids growing up, I feel like now they're at, because you're oldest is what, 12, 14 or 15. Right? So how has that changed the way that you view your work? Do you struggle with that? Like the balance.

Russell:

Yeah. Especially now with COVID stuff happening. Kids being homeschooled. Because before it was easy to separate because they're going to school, I'm going to here. Separation is easy. Now it's harder because it's they're still home. And it's like, "Oh, should I be there?" It's definitely tough. Yeah. It's interesting. I have so many entrepreneur friends, I always tease them because it's like, who don't have any kids and they're doing amazing things. I'm like, "Yeah. But I'm doing this stuff and I got five kids and a beautiful wife and I got callings in my church." And there's so many things.

I hired a trainer, Dave knows a safe trainer. I remember when he started working with us, he said the biggest thing he knows me start working with me is that you'll be shocked what your body can actually endure. I think that most people don't understand what they could actually do. How do you run a company this big and have a family and have a successful marriage and have these... You can do it, and most people don't because they sedate. And like, I don't watch four hours of football a night because I have all these other things. Right. I don't know, it's just you take away the excuse of sedation you can produce so much more than people are able to understand. I don't know.

So it's interesting. And then it's been such a weird thing too, with kids, because I think when you first start having kids, you assume they're all going to be like you. Like, "Oh, they're all going to be entrepreneurs." And then I had twins, it was crazy, our first two that came out are twins. Now they're 14, almost 15. It's crazy because I assumed they'd all be the same, the same as me or the same together. And they are so polar opposites.

Josh:

Yeah, I didn't even know, I just found out today that they were twins. I had no clue. Colette's like, "Yeah they're both turning 15." I'm like, "Wait, what?"

Russell:

Yeah. They don’t look like each other, they don’t act like each other. One's more entrepreneurial. One's more, if you look at disc profile, I have a DI and we have an SC.

Josh:

Oh my God.

Russell:

Introvert, extrovert. All the things are different. And I always thought, you know, my kids are going to be entrepreneurs like me and now I don't think they have to be. It goes back to what we talked about earlier. With my kids, I'm like, "What do you want to do?" And I think some of my kids are very entrepreneurial, a lot of them aren't. I think some of my kids are super smart, hard workers who are going to be amazing at the roles they play in something, they're going to be a huge part of changing somebody's world, but it's not going to be the front person of it.

And so it's been interesting watching that and fulfilling and hard and it's all the things wrapped into one. It's an interesting experience, you're going to love it. You should start having kids right away.

Josh:

Yeah. That's not going to happen. But why though?

Russell:

Because you should know, it takes time.

Josh:

Okay. But how long did you go? How long did you wait?

Russell:

Uh, two? Let's see, we had our 18 year anniversary, the kids are turning 15. So almost three years. We tried earlier, but we had fertility drugs, stuff like that and everything, But yeah, so about probably two years and when started trying.

Josh:

Yeah. I can't... Kids scare me dude. But it's interesting because like I grew up with six younger siblings. So I was definitely old enough to remember the whole diaper phase and like, you know... Obviously I wasn't a parent with it. And the church that I went to, eight was like average to small amount of kids. A lot of them were like 13 kids, 12 kids, 14 kids, whatever. I think the smallest in our whole church was four, and they were the weird ones.

Russell:

"You only have four kids? What's wrong with you?"

Josh:

Right. And so everywhere we went, that's just what it was. So for me, I had that rebellion phase, if you will. I don't want to call it rebellion phase, but where I was like, "I don't want any of this. Why would you... They're expensive and they suck all the time. And I can't go do this." I'm like, "I want to be so filthy read before I go having kids." And I taught Sunday school and was very involved in the church growing up and things like that. So for me it was like, "I want to go build my business, doing that is more fun."

The interesting thing about kids. And I told my parents this, I don't remember when it was, but my parents aren't super wealthy or successful when it comes to business or anything like that. But I look at my parents as some of the most successful people that I've ever met in my life, because my mom's favorite... There's little things that my mom told me over and over and over again.

And one of her famous lines is, "The only thing I need to know in life is I just need to know that my children walk in truth." Right. And my mom, particularly, and my dad too, like both of them, but I relate it with my mom, cause she'd keep saying it, it's like my mom's definition of success and achievement was, "Do my children walk in truth?" That is what was success to her. And she's like, "Yeah, money would have been great, like all these different things." But that was kind of the pinnacle of success for her is, do my kids walk in truth. And so as I have gone through my own journey of faith, which has been, I mean, it has been rough at times, right?

I've watched her struggle with it and freak out because she's like, "I just want..." But that's not her journey to bear, but it is at the same time. And so it's always been interesting, kids are this thing where I feel like once I have them, obviously I'm there for the rest of my life, but I feel like there's this stress or there's this new piece of my life that's unlocked that I've never explored before. I don't know anything about it. And I'm like, afraid isn't the right word, but I'm pushing that off as long as I possibly can because once that's opened then I never get to close it again. And that mystery is almost fun to like look forward to, but at the same time, I get to focus over here.

Russell:

Essentially I remember thinking about this a lot, especially for the first two years. I was like, "his is so much harder than I thought it was going to be." Flat out, way harder. But also remember feeling and thinking out loud, "This is so much cooler than I ever dreamt it was going to be." Like this double-edged sword. And I was like, "Man, I didn't realize how tired and worn out." And all these things. But then so much better than I thought. It's funny. Cause I had a lot of friends who are like, “well, I want to make money, and then I’ll have kids”. I don't think, I don't know. It's different. I would just have kids, you can do both. It's not impossible. Especially when they're first born, they just sit there. I would spend a year or two and just not-

Josh:

Right, right, right.

Russell:

But I wouldn't wait until like, "Oh, I need a million bucks in the bank." I get people all the time, I know people that are broke, that have eight kids. They're not that expensive. Like, Cheerios are not that expensive, if you need to. It's just being willing to be there and be loving and be being present for as much as you can. Another thing that's been interesting, especially now that our kids are going to be teenagers, it's like so much harder. That's harder.

Josh:

Really that's harder than when they're young.

Russell:

Oh, for sure. Yeah.

Josh:

Dave's over here just laughing.

Russell:

It's different-

Josh:

Oh gosh. What am I in for Dave? Oh no.

Russell:

Yeah. The young part is like, "I'm tired." That's a hard part when they're young. When they're older, it's just like, am I messing these kids up, I just want them to be successful. That's the bigger fear. I remember a little thing that gave me some grace, Tom Bilyeu, I heard of this Instagram post about him talking about being a parent, and it was so funny because he's like, "Who here is scared that you're going to eff up your kids?" That was how he would have said it.

Josh:

Right, yeah.

Russell:

I would say “mess up”. Who's gonna mess up your kids. And everyone's hands like, "Yeah. I'm scared." He's like, "Guess what?..." I got to make sure I gets right. He's like, "My parents messed me up. You're going to mess your kids up. But guess what? We turned out okay in the end. Just be okay with the fact that you're going to mess your kids up because you are." And I remember, I was like, "Okay, everyone messed up their kids, that's part of it." That's part of the whole journey, that's the journey. And it gave me some grace of just like, "Look, I'm going to do my best. I'm probably going to mess them up." But at the same time you have to have faith, they're going to do their thing and they're going to hopefully make the decisions. And if not, that's why we have God. That's why we have repentance. And just in the kind of leaving it to leave it to him and do your best.

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]]> 2522 no The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 2 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-atlas-shrugged-interview-part-2-of-5 Welcome to part 2 of the 5 part Atlas Shrugged interview! On today’s segment you’ll get to hear Russell and Josh discuss being a producer and how important it is to continually create content. They talk about being a good steward over the ideas that God gives you, and how you should be preparing for even bigger and better ideas. And finally, they explain how “motion is the key”. So enjoy part two of this fun interview and don’t forget to go to tshirtsmackdown.com for your Atlas Shrugged swag! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. All right, my first question for you, is how'd you like the first part of the interview with me and Josh of Atlas Shrugged? I hope you enjoyed it. Today, I'm going to give you guys part two of a five-part interview series. We will pick up after the intro song, we'll pick up where we left off. We'll keep diving into these topics, these concepts. Again, throughout this interview, we talk about religion, we talk about politics, and we talk about all these things through the lens of the Atlas Shrugged book. So with that said, we'll cue up the theme song, we'll come back, we'll go into part two of my interview with Josh Forti about Atlas Shrugged. Josh Forti: Because what I'm trying to figure out, this is open discussion here... I am a pretty motivated, driven person. I never would've described what I was doing as greedy. Russell Brunson: Would you have thought that when you were an athlete, or thought when you were a kid- Josh: Yeah. Russell: ...no. But what is it? Josh: Well, yeah. And that's why I asked you the question. Because I don't know the answer myself. Russell: I feel the same way, because I never... it wasn't until I was reading the book, The Utopia of Greed- Josh: Yeah, yeah. Russell: ...and all of a sudden, I started thinking, all these things we're doing... we call them growth, we call them whatever, which is awesome, but it is... it's a greedy time in your life, right? Josh: Yeah. I wonder what the actual definition of greed is. Russell: Yeah. Josh: I'm going to look this up. We'll see. Definition of greed. Russell: It has a def-... negative connotation in our world today. Josh: Intense and selfish desire for something, especially money, power or food. Russell: Or food. Josh: Well- Russell: There you go. Josh: All right. Money, power or food. Russell: For me, thinking about the lens of wrestling, when I was wrestling, I had a selfish desire for, I wanted to be a state champ, I wanted to be an all-American, I wanted to be a national champ- Josh: But why? Why? Russell: Because I wanted my hand-raising. That was all I thought about, all I dreamt about. I couldn't... I'm a very obsessive person, that's why I don't gamble. Because I was like, I put a quarter in and I win, I'm broke. It doesn't matter how much I started with, it’s gone. And I know that about myself. So when I started wrestling, and I got my hand raised the first time, I was like, that feels good, I want to feel that every day for the rest of my life. And I just went, blinders on, and that's all I did, that was my... and I mean, I wouldn't have thought of it as greedy, but by definition, it's like, you need to focus on these things about yourself. Now I'm in the phase of my life where I'm coaching wrestling, coaching my kids and stuff like that, and it's different, because there's nothing in it for you, except for seeing their hand-raising and that light in their eyes go off, and it's just like, that felt way better than my own. But you don't know that until you're in that phase. Josh: Yeah. Did having kids change that for you at all? Did it help solidify or give you a different perspective on that shift from greedy to- Russell: I think... maybe not so much solidify as much as I'm experiencing that in multiple parts of my life, not just the business part. Josh: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: A lot in part, you think about our success stories and our business are our children, the children of ClickFunnels, whatever you want to say, they're the people that have come off it. So I think I'm experiencing it now with them, and it's been interesting and fun and... yeah. Josh: How long did it take you to finish the book? Russell: I think about two months. Josh: Oh, wow. Russell: You read it way faster than I did. Josh: Well, it's one of those things... it's funny because my mom was like, have you even read the book? I'm like, what do you mean, you made me read in high school. And I went back and I was like, oh, I didn't actually read... I knew the book, so I assumed I had read it. And then I realized it was 1200 pages and I was like, I don't remember reading a 1200-page book. I feel like I would've remembered that- Russell: I got to do it right now, because Russell's going to be talking about. Josh: Right. And that's exactly what happened. So it was like, oh, we want to do this, cool. And I could've sat down and had the conversation without reading the book. Because I knew the concept, the premise. And so then I went through it and... every night, two-and-a-half speed, couldn't sleep, I'd get up and like, oh, man, it's 3:00 in the morning. Close the book, go back in there. So- Russell: Can I interject? Josh: Yeah. Russell: Because there is something you started on that I want to make sure we don’t miss, because I think it was... you started leading real good and there is somewhere I want to wrap it because it’s an open loop in my head now. Josh: Okay, okay, okay. Russell: You started talking about how you agree on the left side of social helping people, but not the way that they do it- Josh: Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Russell: ...is that how you said it? Okay, so- Josh: I agree with what they want to do- Russell: Yes. Josh: ...i don't agree with how they want to do it. Russell: Okay, so, this is something that was powerful. So after I read the book, I was geeking out, and I'm like, who is this Ayn Rand, I want to see. So I started searching her and I found an interview she did on Donahue, 1980, three months after her husband passed away. And it was a fascinating interview- Josh: Oh, dang. Russell: ...she's atheist, does not believe in a god, all these things like that, so- Josh: She even made a statement about how part of the reason she wrote the book was to prove that religion was fake and to destroy all belief in any form- Russell: So once again- Josh: Super different. Russell: ...this is not the Bible for me, this is just... stimulating book that got my mind spinning. One thing she said during the interview that was so cool, because Donahue's like, "So based on this, you believe that we should all be producers and greedy and keep all our money and we should never... we shouldn't help anybody." And she said, "No, no, no, that's not what I said." She's like, "I never said that." She said, "What I did say, is that it should not be the government coming to you with their guns saying, 'Give me your 50% of your taxes.'" That's what's messed up. You think about this, if you give a gift... if someone comes to you and gives you a gun like, give your friend a gift, are you actually giving them a gift? No, you're not. Josh: Yeah. Russell: If you don't pay the taxes, they put you in jail. That's the thing. She said, "People should go and support people on their own." This comes back to... this is the whole thing we talked about before, the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, unless he yields to the enticing of the Holy Spirit. Us yielding saying, "Hey, I have all this money, I should go help other people with this." That's God saying, you should not be greedy, use what you've blessed with and help other people's lives. Right? Them coming to you with a gun saying, "Pay your taxes or go to jail," is not you giving a gift. It's them taking it from you and giving it away. So you're not a better person because you did it, right? And then we get into the whole depth of... this is the government now who's the worst run organization in the history of all time, which… I won’t even rant on that. You want to trust them with the money, right? So I just want to share a practical example, because people are like, "Well, you wouldn't give money if you didn't..." whatever. Right now, I'm taxed more than 50%, so more than half my income goes to Uncle Sam. He's doing whatever the crap they do with it. Josh: Well, you just need some Cash Flow Tactics. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Shameless plug. Russell: Yeah. Anyway, I have no idea, I don't actually do my taxes. That's the tax bracket. But then you look at... when you yield to the enticing of the Holy Spirit. So there was a time when my friend Stu McLaren is like, "Hey, we're building schools in Kenya, and this is mission and we believe in it, will you help?" It wasn't greedy Russ like, "I'm going to help and this is going to be awesome." Josh: Yeah. Russell: I felt something, I was like, "Oh my gosh. That is a great cause. Yeah, how can I support you?" In that process you can see, here's pictures of Stu and Amy in Kenya, we've been to Kenya four times now. We donated money, we built schools... that is a gift, versus give us money so we can go do something with it, right? And then a couple years later, I heard about Operation Underground Railroad, and I was like, oh my gosh, and I felt the spirit saying, "This is a good cause, you should serve, you should do this thing." And I put time and energy and money into this thing. We raised multiple millions of dollars now to save children from sex slavery. And not everyone's willing to do that. Again, there's a segment of people who will... it comes back to, the natural man is an enemy to God and has been since the fall of Adam and will be forever and ever. A lot of people never get off the greed boat. But most people, as you start making more and more money, you look at anybody, you look at Bill Gates, look at Elon Musk, anyone who's making much money, what do they do with their money? Eventually they start giving it to charities or helping people... all these things, because there's that transition point where you feel that, you hear the voice, you hear God, whatever you want to call it. You should be serving more. And I think... I know that if my tax went from 50% to 20% to 10% or whatever that thing was, I would and could give so much more, and everybody could. Right now, half the money goes to organizations that... what's happening with the money? Do we know? Do we see any ledger of what's happening? No, it's insane. Josh: Even Bill Maher, who... do you know Bill Maher? Russell: I know who he is, I don't follow him- Josh: Stupid... super left, right? Definitely would not align with our political views, or your... or my political views. But even him is like, I have no idea what my tax dollars are going to. I have no idea where my millions of dollars I pay every- Russell: Isn't that scary? Josh: Isn't that crazy. It's wild. Only the government. It's crazy. Russell: And then they go like... sorry, this is a plug for OUR and Tim Ballard. Tim Ballard, I know does not take a salary. His payment for being CEO of Operation Underground Railroad and risking his life day in and day out is zero dollars they pay him. He funds it himself. All the money he makes is from his books, his speaking, other things he does, externally to pay for himself, because he doesn't want to take money from an organization saving kids. Can you say that about any of the government- Josh: Yeah. Russell: ...no, it's insane. It's... anyway. But, yeah. So for me, it's like- Josh: Somebody's going to mention that Trump takes a zero dollar salary in there. That's not what we're talking about. Russell: But for me, it's like, that's my big thing, understanding that I think there's this blend of left and right. If we're not producing, the fact that I'm going to wake up every morning and kill myself, even though I have more money than I'm ever going to need, now we have 400 plus people who have full-time jobs here... excuse me, full-time jobs here at ClickFunnels. It's 144,000 people who have active ClickFunnels accounts. Each of those people, if they had one employee, it's 144,000 jobs. If they had two to three, that means... you're looking at... it's probably half a million to a million jobs have been created because of ClickFunnels, because we get up every day and we're chasing something, we're producing, producing, producing, right? If you take away incentives of that... I'd have to lay off half my staff, which then... and then everything starts disappearing really quickly. Where it's like, if they took that away, now we can go and how much more could we do? We did the OUR... we talked about OUR and showed the documentary at Funnel Hacking Live, and since then, four or five dozen people who were in our community showed the OUR documentary at their events and made money, and it's like this ripple effect keeps growing, growing, growing, versus the other side where it's just... it shrinks and- Josh: Okay, so, I want to get non-specifically political here for a second with this and... I don't want to say play the devil's advocate, I just want to understand your thoughts on this. So the argument on the other side, if you will, the people that are more traditionally higher tax bracket, you should be taxed even higher. We want to take more of your money away because it's this. Basically, the thought process is like... listen, you have donated your money to Kenya and to Operation Underground Railroad and things like that, but guess what, there's probably people here in your own community, like in Boise, for example, right, or wherever these entrepreneurs are, that you have millions and millions of dollars, there's people that are homeless. There's people who can't afford medical payments, or there's people who genuinely need help. And so the argument is, yeah, you've given some, but you have so much of it, you could do that and be taxed higher. We could take even more of your money and your life wouldn't change at all, and we're also like... not talking about your business money, we're only talking about profit, we're only going to take that part of it away. And so the argument on the other side is, if collectively... and I'm just going to make up a number here. Let's just say there's 10,000 entrepreneurs like you in America, that have millions of dollars or billions of dollars... I know you don't have billions.... billions of dollars, we could take all that money, and hypothetically, we could solve a lot of these issues. We could tax the top 10 richest people, whatever. Why doesn't that work? Or, A, I guess it's a two-part question. A, are you... A, why doesn't that work, and B, what is your solution for that, if any? What's your perspective, your view on how that would help? Russell: Yeah, I think- Josh: Or can you not help everybody? Russell: This is the fun part, politics, right? It's tough, and I'll preface this before we dive into the actual question... it's tough because there's good on both sides and there's bad on both sides. That's the hardest thing, right? And so that's the hard thing, is you can argue both ways. Let's say me as an entrepreneur, because I only know experiences through my own self, right? Josh: Right. Russell: I know what I pay in taxes every single year. I know how much goes away, I know how much I make. And it's tough because the more... the less you make for the more you work, the less incentivized you are to keep working. If my take-home was $100 grand a year, I'd be like, why am I killing myself? I could work three hours a day and make that, so why would I keep doing this stuff? If there's no reward, then it's hard, right? It's like, what's the purpose of doing any of this stuff? And it'd be really easy to then shrink back, and the company shrinks, employees shrink, everything shrinks because there's no incentive for us to risk everything. It's a risk reward thing. That's a big part of it. How do you solve it, I don't know, I don't think the solution is the government to come in with a gun and saying, give us half your money so we can go solve this problem. I think it's, man, what are the things in you're interested in saving? What are the things that touches your heart, what are the things that you're inspired to actually help? For me it's Kenya, for me it's this, for me it's... there's other things that we give money to that I don't talk about publicly. But there's things that... what are the things that I care about? Let me focus there. Everyone's got different agendas. I had Matt Maddix, someone who I... Caleb Maddix is the father, he's super awesome guy. He came to me and he's like, "Hey, my mission is to save these kids off the streets and this stuff..." all these kinds of things. I'm like, "That's amazing," he's like, "Can you help me?" I'm like, "That's not my calling. My calling are these things here. That's your calling, dude, I respect it, I support it, I'll help give money or whatever I can do to help. But that's your calling. God gave you that. That was the thing that you were given, that's the mantel you're in charge of." And everyone's got a different mantel. So your calling might be different from mine, people come to me all the time like, "Oh, that charity's cool, but I support this." Like, good, I don't care who you support. Everyone's got different callings and they're all good. So I think we should be able to say, what's the thing that speaks to our heart that we're passionate about, and that's what we should focus our time and our energy and our money on, not... again, don't come with the guns saying, "Give me 50% because I think it should go over here." Josh: But what about the people though, that... let's pretend, and I have... guys, I love Elon Musk, I'm going to use him purely as an example. Clearly I have no idea what he does with his money. But let's pretend. So, Elon Musk and all his money... what if he wasn't charitable? Should the government, or anybody, be able to come in and be like, "Yo, you have so much money." Or Zuckerberg, or whatever. "You have so much money. We're going to... you got..." I don't know, he's worth $90 billion. Let's say he has $3 billion in liquid cash. I'm just... hypotheticals here. "You got $3 billion here literally sitting here. We're going to take that away and we're going to give you... you can have $500 million if it, but we're going to take $2.5 billion and give it to people who actually need it." Do you think that there needs to be some overriding law or power or something that's like, "Yo, you can't just hoard. You got to... if you have more than enough, you got to go and give it back." Or do you think that's a personal choice? Russell: I think it's a personal choice. Think about, how many jobs has he created? He's giving that stuff, and this is the reward for this risk and reward side of thing. And his $3 billion, let's say, what's his next thing? He's not just going to sit on it, that's stupid. For him, for anybody, right? Josh: Right. Russell: He's going to go invest in the next thing, he's going to create more jobs, do more things, to stimulate the economy in different ways. He's going to go and start PayPal, and then he's going to start Tesla, and then he's going to start sending rocket ships to space. A producer's going to produce, because they want to produce. It's the art for them. So let them create art because the byproduct of art is jobs, it is stimulation of the economy, all those things happening. And so for me, building funnels is my art. I couldn't care less about the revenue that comes from it. I need the revenue to be able to hire the teams and the people and the things that we need to be able to continue the art, to pay Zuckerberg, to show my ads on the thing. All these things are part of it. So I think, yeah, if he's sitting on $3 billion, it's just sitting there, but producers don't typically do that. They're reinvesting, they're doing stuff with it that creates more. Josh: I want you to come up with a story on the spot, go. Which you're pretty good at. But I want you to talk about that. Producers produce. I think that might be one of the... actually, I'm curious to know... I feel like that is one of the most misunderstood things about the ultra-wealthy. The people that are actually... not like, I inherited $200 million because I'm a trust fund baby. But the actual Elon Musks of the world, the Jeff Bezoses of the world, the Russell Brunsons of the world, what ultimately drives you to go keep doing more? You have all of the money. And I know... we talked about the... you want to contribute back part, but there's a million different ways you can contribute. Why do you do the things that you do? Because I feel like one of the misunderstood things is... and this is something I don't know how to explain it to people that don't know it, I told my fiance, I was like, "You should listen to Russell." Because I'm like, "I think like that." You know what I mean? If you don't understand me, maybe you could see it from somebody else and know that I'm not weird. I mean, I am, but there's other people like me, that think like this. But it's like, how would you explain to somebody that Elon Musk is going to do what Elon Musk does. He's Elon Musk. Zuckerberg, or whoever- Russell: Hank Reardon. Josh: Right, right, whoever. Russell Brunson. You're going to do what you do, because that's who you are. You build things, and the result of... because you need to build things, you need resources. So you're like, man, if I want to go build this thing over here, I need $100 million, or I need $10 million. I'm just going to go make that money, and I'm going to go do it here. And you're basically just organizing things. You're either creating or you're organizing. How does that mentality work? I don't think the average person understands that. And I think that's one of the big misconceptions of... because this goes back to the greed thing, and the reason I really don't like the word greed is because there is so much misconception about it, although I will say the definition says that it's probably that. Russell: It is a negative word... the connotation's super negative. Josh: But it's like, you don't exclusively do it because you're greedy. You did it because you don't know how to do anything else. You know what I mean? Russell: Yeah. Josh: Sorry, sorry, Alex Charfen… We can't turn it off, and we don't understand why anybody would want to. Russell: Yeah, yeah. Josh: Like that, that's the thing. Russell: If you think about it, it's creation. Why was man put on this earth? Were we put on Earth to wake up, watch TV, go back to bed? No, we have creative powers in our body, that’s how husband and wife get together and have children and create. That's the mission on Earth, we're always creating. Any of us, you get married, you create something, we need a house, where are we going to live at? And you create things to be able to get a job, to be able to organize matter, to be able to make, oh, we have a house now we can move into. And that's the thing, so many people though, they become... the word that Garrett White uses best, sedated. Where there's pain, and so because the pain, they're sedated, so they just sit in the moment of, they don't want the pain. Because the pressure is too heavy for the one point, it hurts so bad, they say, I have to stop. Versus what we talk about, over the last six years, I get destroyed, then increased capacity, then destroyed. And so there's two sets of people, there's the people that aren't producing, they're sedating, because they're afraid of the pain, nervous of the pain, trying to hide from the pain, I get that. There's been seasons of my life where I've felt pain and I just want to hide, and I have. And then there's seasons of your life, at least hopefully for most... and I wish everybody could experience it, because the opposite of it, when you're in the creation zone, when you're creating, you're doing it, it's hard, it's a different... both of them are hard, they're different hards, right? One is there's so much fear, there's so much just trying to get out of the pain, and the other one is just... you create to create, right? You can ask my team, we build a funnel, and for me, it's just like, look at this thing we created. We create a product or an event or whatever, and it's like, the creation of the thing, and sharing it with people, that's... I don't know. And I think it's the same way when I was wrestling, that was my art at the time, and I didn't want to do anything besides wrestling. When to tournaments and tournaments, I'm like, what's the next tournament, what's the next thing, kept doing that, kept doing that, my entire life, because that was the art. After awhile, you just want to keep performing what you're doing, right? And I think that if you can get out of that sedation that most people live in... I say the majority of- Josh: And I think that's the issue, that for you and I, we create. Entrepreneurs, funnel hackers, free thinkers of the world, they go out there and they create because it's like, that's what we do. Russell: Yeah. Josh: I don't think that's how most of the world operates. Russell: Yeah. Did you... initially, right, when they're born, they have that seed, that seed of whatever we call it, growth, greed, whatever, right? Something happens in life where they get the pain and they sedate because it's easier. I think that's one of the biggest problems, and I am anti-drug, anti everything that causes sedation, because most of the world, I see... especially in entrepreneurial community, where people could be doing so much more, but instead there's sedating with drugs or alcohol or weed or whatever, because it's like, let me take the pressure of myself. And man, what a tragedy. You could be producing and changing so many people's lives, but it's like, I need an outlet. The outlet causes sedation, it takes you out of your ability to produce. I think the majority of people, that's what they do. It drives me crazy, I see all the conversation on Facebook of... there's entrepreneur events where people come together, they literally... there's sessions, we talk about what mushrooms they use to hallucinate... it just drives me nuts. You guys are sedating to get out of this pain as opposed to stepping into the pain, creating and changing people's lives. So I'm very vocal, anti all that kind of stuff, because I think so many people, that's what they slip back into. One of the greatest blessings of my religion that I believe is I don't have these tools to sedate that most people use. And so my outlet is creation. If my outlet was drinking, if my outlet was drugs, if my outlet was these other things, I wouldn't have been able to produce, but I don't, so my outlet's got to be what, what is it? Production, let's create something amazing. And I think too many people let themselves off the hook and just, oh, I can create or maybe watch TV, or I'm going to go eat, or I'm going to go... if your outlet is something that sedates you, that's taking you out of your creative zone, I think most people slip back because it's easier, it's cheaper, it doesn't cause the pain. Garrett White's whole mission, Wake-Up Warriors, waking men up from that sedated state that most of our society are stuck into. That’s why I relate to him so well, because I see it in people I love, that I care about, like, you're sedated, if we could break you out of that and get you into production, you could change the world. Josh: Yeah, I think it's interesting. So, I have a coach who I think did that for me... I mean, I don't use Garrett White, which... that's an intense man, oh my word. Garrett, if you're listening, I would love to talk to you. Come on the show. I've always plugged him. Hey, if I'm ever going to get a guest... Elon Musk, if you're listening. Anyway. But I have a coach, Katie Richardson. You know Katie. Katie is... outside of my immediate family, and Leah, obviously, top three people that changed my life, Katie Richardson and Russell Brunson are two of those people that are in that top thing, right? So Katie is someone that I work with one-on-one. I don't think I was ever sedated in the sense of what you're talking about, but the opposite of sedation is being alive. Really, truly, coming alive, understanding who you are, what you are put on this earth here to do. And so the thing that I struggled with for the longest time, even from the beginning days of this entrepreneur, is right and wrong. I didn't want to do the wrong thing. I didn't want to tick anybody off, because that would be bad. Like, oh, man, you don't want to get into a fight, because that's bad. I don't want to make too much money because that might be bad. Or I don't want to say the wrong thing because it might be bad. So I lived in this black and white, is it right or is it wrong. Katie came along, and she's like, "Josh, there is no right and wrong." There is in the sense of moral right and wrong... I'm not going to go into that concept, but... universal truth, I do believe there's absolute truth. But in the sense of our everyday life, it's not so much is it the right thing or the wrong thing, it's what are you going to choose to do. But you can only know what you're going to choose if you're alive, if you know who you are, and you know what you're put on this earth to do. And that's why... it's funny, you might... I think you may know this sorry. So my brother dies, helicopter crash, beginning of 2019, kind of wrecked my whole life, ending up selling the company, sold the business to an investor, business partner took over, and Leah and I took off on our own. And it's supposed to be this four-month long trip where I was going to disconnect and figure out life and everything like that. And Christmas time, it's about a week before Christmas, and we're in the Philippines, in the middle of absolutely freaking nowhere. The nearest airport, hospital, anything, is six hours away. Absolute middle of nowhere. And Leah gets an intestinal eating parasite. She gets super, super sick. Can't sit up, can't keep food down. I'm like, oh my gosh, we're in the Philippines, middle of nowhere. So we go to the emergency room, and we get there and it's a cart... it's like a piece of plywood with two-inch foam, and there's no doors on the bathroom, no toilet seat, there's ants crawling... it's terrible, right? And so long story short, we end up having to cut our trip two months early, we lose tens of thousands of dollars in deposits getting her home or whatever. And I have no business at this point. We're supposed to be going for two months longer. I was supposed to fly home... I was supposed to come to Funnel Hacking Live, that was going to be our coming home. And I find myself in the basement of my girlfriend's mom's house, the night before Christmas, going like, "What am I doing with my life? How did I end up here?" I go through the process like, okay, I need a coach. And I go through and I interview a bunch of different coaches and I end up choosing Katie. And I'm like, "All right, Katie, you're going to solve all my business problems for me. You're going to help me make all this money, you're going to help me build this million-dollar business," and everything like that. And so the very, very first call, I'll never forget, the very first question, she's like, "All right. Vent. I know you need to." Just brain dump, vent for 20, 30 minutes straight. I'm like, "What's the answer?" And she goes, "Josh, who are you?" I was like, "Really? That's where we're going to start this whole conversation?" I just paid you 60 grand? And looking back now, that... and I do have a full circle with this. Looking back now, figuring out who I was gave me my permission to go do what I was called to do, without the fear of what anybody else thought. And I'm not trying to intentionally piss anybody off. I don't want people to actually hate me. But I'm so certain in what I'm doing and knowing who I am, that I know I'm a contributor to society. I know that I make the world better with what I do because I believe that everybody, deep down inside, God has given talents. And I believe that the thing that, whatever it is that you're good at, that you like to do or whatever, that's the talent that God gave you, and you have a choice on how you're going to go out and use that, and I believe that we should use that to serve Him. The problem is, is that I don't think... I think an overwhelming majority of the world has no idea who they are or what they're called to be. And because of that, the people like you or Elon or whoever, the producers of society, that know who they are, what their talents are, what they're called to do, things like that... you've seen my growth. You've watched me transition from this crazy little kid to this... that came by learning who I was and how I was contributing in the world and doing what I was called here and what I was put here for. So when you talk about sedation, I feel like that's the issue of, you're sedated, and so they don't even know who they are. They don't even know how to tap into it, they don't know how to understand it. Because of that, they look at someone like you, they look at someone like me, and they go, "Well, you're preventing me. You're taking away my ability to go do something, because you're taking all the money. You're taking all the opportunity. You have a category and the king of the market, so I can't go and do it then." To those people, this concept of, because you're successful I can't be successful, what is your response there? How do you interpret that? Russell: Yeah. Josh: How do you help someone shift and be like, just because I did it doesn't mean you can't. Russell: Yeah. It's interesting because... it's funny because for me it's such a foreign thing to understand that. I see that so many times entrepreneurs where, it's that mentality of there's not enough money, not enough opportunities or resources, whatever. You know this, I know this, and the bigger problem I have is there are so many opportunities, every single day... it's not that there's not enough opportunities, it's there's so many, it's like, how do you... I think when people start understanding that, look around. Learn some basic skills. The original DotComSecrets book I wrote because I'm like, if anyone took these principles, looked at any business, you could apply it and boom, it just works. It's magic. There's not a business on this... Adam’s Eye Care, I can see right there out the window... I can take DotComSecrets principles and blow that company up overnight. And so if you have these tools, you could do anything, you could sell phones, you could sell watches, you could sell books, you could sell podcasts. I think when people start understanding that, it's just education, they don't understand it. I have friends before who are like, “life's tough right now, there are no opportunities”. And I'm just like, what? There are so many opportunities, but you have to have the skillset that actually... can produce it. I think a big frustration obviously, I have, I think you have as well, is... and we talked about this a little tonight, with my kids... a lot of the things we were equipped with are school... the school system doesn’t equip you to be able to capitalize on opportunities. It doesn't, unless you're like, I want to be a doctor. Cool, this is the process, now you can capitalize on being a doctor or being a dentist, or whatever that traditional path is. To be able to walk in and make it rain somewhere, those skillsets aren't found in school. And you think about in any business, there's a couple personalities. There's the entrepreneur who starts it. Then there's the managers who are managing the people, there's the technicians who are doing the thing, and there's the rainmakers who come in and make money. If you learn that skillset... how do you become a rainmaker? How do you go in, and you can plug in any business, any opportunity, and you can turn it into money? And every door you walk past, there's opportunity. There's infinite, every human you see there's opportunity, right? People have to learn how to take the talent and learn how to market the talent. God gives us all different things. Some people... Kaelin Poulin, God gave her a gift to be able to help women lose weight. But it wasn't until she learned how to market that that it was actually now... now, the opportunity is huge. They’ve got, I don't know, 100 employees at her company, millions of women they've served across the world. Taking your God-given talent, learning how to make it rain, putting those two things together, now, unlimited opportunities. So I think a lot of times, we're given... and that's why I'm so loud about my mission, I try to share so much, because I believe that God's given everyone a calling. Says in the Scriptures, many are called, but few are chosen. Everybody's called. Everybody gets a calling. Everybody gets that tap on the shoulder. Everyone gets the opportunity. No matter where you're born, where you're... everyone gets the opportunity, you're called. Most people don't do it, or they don't know how to do it, because they have this talent, this hobby, this thing... and then what happens? They sedate, they hide, or they search. And if you search, you find the answer, and it's like, oh my gosh, now I can make this change the world. Josh: But do you think everybody has that talent though? Obviously, there's only one Russell Brunson. But I have discussions with my mom a lot. I have a great relationship with my mom. My mom always tells me, she's like, "Josh, not everybody's you. Not everybody thinks like you. Not everybody has to drive like you. Not everybody has the confidence like you. Not everybody has the..." and I'm like, you don't have to. You can do the same things, just in your own way. Russell: And everyone's got a different view of success, too. Josh: Right. Russell: One of my first mentors taught me that... when I launched my first mastermind group, he pulled me aside and he's like, "Your mastermind group's going to fail if you try to put your version of success on all those people." And I was like, "What do you mean?" He's like... it was funny, because he was in the room and he's like... I can't say names because some of you may know someone. He's like, "you see that guy, you know why he’s in the room?" I'm like, "Why?" He's like, "He wants to hear himself talk. That's why he's here. And if I try to force him to do something, he's not going to do it. That guy right there? He's here because he wants to hang out with the group and network people. You? You're here because you want to steal everybody's ideas, right?" He's like, "If you try to launch a mastermind, your goal is to build a $100 million company, you try to put that, your values on the people, you're going to make them all fail." And that was a big a-ha for me, everyone's got a different vision of success. Maybe your brother, someone, your sister... family member, may not think like you or be like you, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean they have to change a million people's lives to change the world. It could be they're a mom, and they can be the best mom in the world and they change their kid's life, that's a calling. Josh: And that's what I want you to touch on. I want you to expand upon that. Because I feel like... man, I hear so many arguments, I'm trying to figure out which one fits best here. But, "Josh, we need the plumbers of the world." Russell: Yeah. Josh: Right? We need the people who will come in vacuum the carpet. We need the people that'll just do the mediocre tasks and that are not important, and that'll do those in and out and in and out and in and out. And, yeah, that. Because I feel like... how do I say this. I believe that a majority of the people in this world are not living up to their true potential. A massive... overwhelming majority are not- Russell: I don't think anyone is, to be honest. I don't think I am. Josh: Right. Russell: Yes, so, yes, 100%. Josh: But, you're living far more potential like the average person is, right? And how I look at is, I go, hey, listen, not everybody can do what you do or what I do, or whatever. Okay... how do I bring it around so it’s more… clear? I’m going to use a political aspect of things, because I think that's something we can all understand. Hey, poor people, victim mentality people... that's a controversial... you know what I'm saying. But victim mentality people, or poor people, they don't think like that, or maybe they didn't have as good a schooling, or maybe they didn't have as good an education, whatever. They don't have the same understanding that you do. So shouldn't we help them see that they can go and achieve more? Or should they... is their version of success... what am I trying to ask? Russell: The answer's yes, we should be, and that's what we're doing. I heard some of the... before, they're like, "Well, Russell, you have a $50,000 or $100,000 mastermind group, I can't afford that, that's not fair." I'm like, "Yeah, but I also do a podcast two to three times a week, every single week for six years. I've written three books you can get for 10 bucks, or you can get them for free." There's levels of it. The thing is there's value everywhere and if you pick it up, it increases... and you actually apply it? I'm a big believer that God gives all of us stewardship over things. He'll give you an idea, he'll give me an idea, he'll give anybody an idea, or desire. Here's some desire for you. You look at these kids who are struggling, but they get desire to play basketball and then they become Michael Jordan, or whoever... the people, right, because God gives them desire, or give them ideas, or talents. I'm a big believer in my business life, as I've been doing this journey now for 18 plus years, is that I got ideas, and a lot of the ideas I didn't do anything with. But some of them I took, I got the idea, and I'm not naïve to think, oh, I came up with this great idea. These are blessings from God, he's like, here's an idea, let's see if you're going to be a good steward with it. I get the idea, and if I do something with it, He's like, "Oh my gosh, Russell's a good steward of ideas, let me give him another idea." And if I don't do something with it, He's like, "All right, let me give it to somebody else." All the stuff is happening that would've happened without... somebody would've taken it. But I was a good steward of the thing and so I got blessed with another one and another one and another one. And I think that's a big part of it. I don't think that God... I do think that He puts us all on different spots to start with- Josh: Okay, that's a fascinating concept. Russell: 100%. He's giving us ideas or desires, things like that, and He's watching, are you going to be a good steward with it? If you are, I'll give you more, if you are, I'm going to give you more. So people can go from the worst of the worst and become the best in the world, people can start the best in the world and be horrible. Because what do you do with the things you're given stewardship over? Josh: So, what you're saying here, which is actually a fascinating concept, is that... I'm going to use the idea for ClickFunnels for example. The idea for ClickFunnels wasn't yours, per se. Russell: Do you know how many people were trying to build a funnel software when we built ClickFunnels? Josh: I'm sure a lot. Russell: All my friends were. Everybody was. Josh: So you have this idea that is essentially open for anybody... anybody could go and take advantage of this idea, you just... you're saying God put this idea in your head... and he probably put this idea in 100 peoples' heads, or 500... 10,000 peoples' heads or whatever. But you're like, I was the one who answered the calling to be, okay, I'm actually going to take this idea and do something with it. And so because of that, it's not that you took it away from anybody else... anybody could've done it, you're just the one who went out and actually just chose to do it and bring it to reality. Russell: Yup. 100%. Josh: Okay. Russell: There's a... I wish... somebody shared it to me and I haven't read the book. There's a book that tells a story... there's an author who had an idea for a book, sat down and started writing it, and someone's going to know it... it's a famous book, people would know this, I guarantee someone on this chat knows this. Josh: Somebody comment below when you here it, what it is. Russell: The author's writing the book, and then stops, runs out of time, forgets about it. And then six years later, this new book comes out, becomes a New York Times bestselling book, buys the book, starts reading, and is like, "This is the book that I was supposed to write." And it was like, oh my gosh, I didn't take stewardship of the idea, I stopped, and so God gave it to somebody else. It's the same book, right, it's just I didn't finish it. And I 100% believe that. I think it could be an idea, it could be desire, it could be a million things, we all have these different gifts of the spirit, that are given to us, and they sit back and watch and see what you're going to do with it. Josh: I feel like that could give a lot of people permission to go out and do stuff, too, right there. That viewpoint. Because one of the things that I struggled with early on, which, to a certain extent, I think I still struggle with a little bit, not nearly what I used to... why me? Not in a bad way of, oh, man, why do I... but why do I get these cool opportunities? I live a pretty good life, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, why do I get to have this conversation and not somebody else? Why am I the first person that gets to sit down with Russell Brunson and talk anything related to politics, ever? But it's like, that concept of simply because I chose to go do it. I chose to be the person that was capable of having this conversation, and became that person. And I think that because of that, what you just said right there, gives... to get people permission, you're not taking away from anybody else, and you're not inherently special. You are in your own way, but you're not... it wasn't... you're not the only person that could've built ClickFunnels. Russell: I'm shockingly average. You ask my wife, ask my parents... Russell is shockingly average. Josh: And you're actually super awkward to meet for the first time. Russell: Yeah. Josh: You know the first time... you remember the first time... I think I actually told you this, the first time I met you? Russell: Remind me. Josh: Okay, the first time I met you was at Grant Cardone’s 10X, the very first one. Russell: Okay. Josh: At the time, Grant had hired our team to do Instagram stuff. And this was super, super early on. I was dead broke. I couldn't afford to go to that conference if I wanted to. But because we were doing Instagram stuff, he gave us tickets. And we saw you get offstage and we're like, "Dude, I bet you if we run right now we can meet Russell." So we run downstairs and sure enough, there you are, coming down. And I walk up to you and I'm like, "Russell, oh my gosh, huge fan." And you're like, "Hey. Thanks." And we're like, oh, okay. We're like, "Can we get a picture?" You're like, "Um, yeah, I guess." So I go and normally when you go and take a picture, you put your arm around him, and things like that. You just literally just stood there. And I was like, I guess we're not doing that. And so there's this picture of me in… Russell: I gotta see this picture. Josh: I'll find it. I'll vox it to you. We're sitting there, I'm like... so, guys, Russell is- Russell: Is shockingly average. Josh: Is shockingly average, apparently. But back to the conversation, I remember what I was trying to ask. That was the very first time I met you. I was like, oh, man, I can be a millionaire, too. Russell: Before... I just want to... when I got started, this whole business, it was me and then I hired two of my buddies to come work for me, because they were the only people who cared what I was talking about. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And we're all working on this business, and I remember one of my buddies pulled me aside one day, and said, "The only difference between us two and you?" I said, "No." He said, "The only difference is you're in momentum, you're moving forward, so these opportunities keep coming to you because you're moving, moving, moving, moving." He's like, "We're sitting back here doing the thing, there's no opportunities coming to us because we're not moving." I think what you need to understand is when you're moving in forward, people are like, "Oh, you're lucky you came up with ClickFunnels." I'm like, "Do you know how many funnels I launched before ClickFunnels?" Over a 150. This is not 150 ads that are “create funnel in ClickFunnels, oh, that's a funnel”. It was me coming up with an idea, hiring a designer, writing a sales letter, putting the product together, putting the pages in FrontPage, uploading them through FTP, getting a shopping cart, connecting them 150 times. It took us three months on average through each one. 150 times before we came up with ClickFunnels. I was just moving forward, over and over and over and over and over while everyone else was sitting around waiting. Motion is the key. Josh: Yeah. Russell: The opportunities come. This is what I'm talking about with being a good steward. God gave me an idea for ZipBrander. Do you remember ZipBrander? No one does. That was the first idea and I was like, oh my gosh, ZipBrander. I found a guy in Romania, I paid him 20 bucks to build the software. I created, I got a thing... a header designed and a headline and a thing and I launched it, and I made 400 bucks. And then the next idea was this thing called Article Spider, do you remember the Article Spider? Josh: No. Russell: No one does. I paid someone a couple hundred bucks, I did that, I launched, I made 1700 bucks, and I was like, oh my gosh... Four Hundred Fortunes was number three. And then the next, and the next, and I could show you guys, I did this, I wrote them all... I went back in the Way Back Machine, I found all of them. Thing after thing after thing after thing. Idea after idea. The ideas pop in there, I execute on them, try and try, each one got better and better and better and better, and eventually, God's like, "All right, you're capable, you're a good steward, here's ClickFunnels, let's go with it." If you were to give me that initially, I wouldn't know what to do. It's the momentum, it's the motion that makes you worthy of the calling. And if you're not in momentum, if you're not moving forward, you're never going to get the calling. Many are called, but few are chosen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 2 of 5 full 364 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to part 2 of the 5 part Atlas Shrugged interview! On today’s segment you’ll get to hear Russell and Josh discuss being a producer and how important it is to continually create content. They talk about being a good steward over the ideas... Welcome to part 2 of the 5 part Atlas Shrugged interview! On today’s segment you’ll get to hear Russell and Josh discuss being a producer and how important it is to continually create content. They talk about being a good steward over the ideas that God gives you, and how you should be preparing for even bigger and better ideas. And finally, they explain how “motion is the key”. So enjoy part two of this fun interview and don’t forget to go to tshirtsmackdown.com for your Atlas Shrugged swag! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. All right, my first question for you, is how'd you like the first part of the interview with me and Josh of Atlas Shrugged? I hope you enjoyed it. Today, I'm going to give you guys part two of a five-part interview series. We will pick up after the intro song, we'll pick up where we left off. We'll keep diving into these topics, these concepts. Again, throughout this interview, we talk about religion, we talk about politics, and we talk about all these things through the lens of the Atlas Shrugged book. So with that said, we'll cue up the theme song, we'll come back, we'll go into part two of my interview with Josh Forti about Atlas Shrugged. Josh Forti: Because what I'm trying to figure out, this is open discussion here... I am a pretty motivated, driven person. I never would've described what I was doing as greedy. Russell Brunson: Would you have thought that when you were an athlete, or thought when you were a kid- Josh: Yeah. Russell: ...no. But what is it? Josh: Well, yeah. And that's why I asked you the question. Because I don't know the answer myself. Russell: I feel the same way, because I never... it wasn't until I was reading the book, The Utopia of Greed- Josh: Yeah, yeah. Russell: ...and all of a sudden, I started thinking, all these things we're doing... we call them growth, we call them whatever, which is awesome, but it is... it's a greedy time in your life, right? Josh: Yeah. I wonder what the actual definition of greed is. Russell: Yeah. Josh: I'm going to look this up. We'll see. Definition of greed. Russell: It has a def-... negative connotation in our world today. Josh: Intense and selfish desire for something, especially money, power or food. Russell: Or food. Josh: Well- Russell: There you go. Josh: All right. Money, power or food. Russell: For me, thinking about the lens of wrestling, when I was wrestling, I had a selfish desire for, I wanted to be a state champ, I wanted to be an all-American, I wanted to be a national champ- Josh: But why? Why? Russell: Because I wanted my hand-raising. That was all I thought about, all I dreamt about. I couldn't... I'm a very obsessive person, that's why I don't gamble. Because I was like, I put a quarter in and I win, I'm broke. It doesn't matter how much I started with, it’s gone. And I know that about myself. So when I started wrestling, and I got my hand raised the first time, I was like, that feels good, I want to feel that every day for the rest of my life. And I just went, blinders on, and that's all I did, that was my... and I mean, I wouldn't have thought of it as greedy, but by definition, it's like, you need to focus on these things about yourself. Now I'm in the phase of my life where I'm coaching wrestling, coaching my kids and stuff like that, and it's different, because there's nothing in it for you, except for seeing their hand-raising and that light in their eyes go off, and it's just like, that felt way better than my own. But you don't know that until you're in that phase. Josh: Yeah. Did having kids change that for you at all? Did it help solidify or give you a different perspective on that shift from greedy to- Russell: I think... maybe not so much solidify as much as I'm experiencing that in multiple parts of my life, not just the business part. Josh: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Russell: A lot in part, you think about our success stories and our business are our children, the children of ClickFunnels, whatever you want to say, they're the people that have come off it. So I think I'm experiencing it now with them, and it's been interesting and fun and... yeah. Josh: How long did it take you to finish the book? Russell: I think about two months. Josh: Oh, wow. Russell: You read it way faster than I did. Josh: Well, it's one of those things... it's funny because my mom was like, have you even read the book? I'm like, what do you mean, you made me read in high school. And I went back and I was like, oh, I didn't actually read... I knew the book, so I assumed I had read it. And then I realized it was 1200 pages and I was like, I don't remember reading a 1200-page book. I feel like I would've remembered that- Russell: I got to do it right now, because Russell's going to be talking about. Josh: Right. And that's exactly what happened. So it was like, oh, we want to do this, cool. And I could've sat down and had the conversation without reading the book. Because I knew the concept, the premise. And so then I went through it and... every night, two-and-a-half speed, couldn't sleep, I'd get up and like, oh, man, it's 3:00 in the morning. Close the book, go back in there. So- Russell: Can I interject? Josh: Yeah. Russell: Because there is something you started on that I want to make sure we don’t miss, because I think it was... you started leading real good and there is somewhere I want to wrap it because it’s an open loop in my head now. Josh: Okay, okay, okay. Russell: You started talking about how you agree on the left side of social helping people, but not the way that they do it- Josh: Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Russell: ...is that how you said it? Okay, so- Josh: I agree with what they want to do- Russell: Yes. Josh: ...i don't agree with how they want to do it. Russell: Okay, so, this is something that was powerful. So after I read the book, I was geeking out, and I'm like, who is this Ayn Rand, I want to see. So I started searching her and I found an interview she did on Donahue, 1980, three months after her husband passed away. And it was a fascinating interview- Josh: Oh, dang. Russell: ...she's atheist, does not believe in a god, all these things like that, so- Josh: She even made a statement about how part of the reason she wrote the book was to prove that religion was fake and to destroy all belief in any form- Russell: So once again- Josh: Super different. Russell: ...this is not the Bible for me, this is just... stimulating book that got my mind spinning. One thing she said during the interview that was so cool, because Donahue's like, "So based on this, you believe that we should all be producers and greedy and keep all our money and we should never... we shouldn't help anybody." And she said, "No, no, no, that's not what I said." She's like, "I never said that." She said, "What I did say, is that it should not be the government coming to you with their guns saying, 'Give me your 50% of your taxes.'" That's what's messed up. You think about this, if you give a gift... if someone comes to you and gives you a gun like, give your friend a gift, are you actually giving them a gift? No, you're not. Josh: Yeah. Russell: If you don't pay the taxes, they put you in jail. That's the thing. She said, "People should go and support people on their own." This comes back to... this is the whole thing we talked about before, the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, unless he yields to the enticing of the Holy Spirit. Us yielding saying, "Hey, I have all this money, I should go help other people with this." That's God saying, you should not be greedy, use what you've blessed with and help other people's lives. Right? Them coming to you with a gun saying, "Pay your taxes or go to jail," is not you giving a gift. It's them taking it from you and giving it away. So you're not a better person because you did it, right? And then we get into the whole depth of... this is the government now who's the worst run organization in the history of all time, which… I won’t even rant on that. You want to trust them with the money, right? So I just want to share a practical example, because people are like, "Well, you wouldn't give money if you didn't..." whatever. Right now, I'm taxed more than 50%, so more than half my income goes to Uncle Sam. He's doing whatever the crap they do with it. Josh: Well, you just need some Cash Flow Tactics. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Shameless plug. Russell: Yeah. Anyway, I have no idea, I don't actually do my taxes. That's the tax bracket. But then you look at... when you yield to the enticing of the Holy Spirit. So there was a time when my friend Stu McLaren is like, "Hey, we're building schools in Kenya, and this is mission and we believe in it, will you help?" It wasn't greedy Russ like, "I'm going to help and this is going to be awesome." Josh: Yeah. Russell: I felt something, I was like, "Oh my gosh. That is a great cause. Yeah, how can I support you?" In that process you can see, here's pictures of Stu and Amy in Kenya, we've been to Kenya four times now. We donated money, we built schools... that is a gift, versus give us money so we can go do something with it, right? And then a couple years later, I heard about Operation Underground Railroad, and I was like, oh my gosh, and I felt the spirit saying, "This is a good cause, you should serve, you should do this thing." And I put time and energy and money into this thing. We raised multiple millions of dollars now to save children from sex slavery. And not everyone's willing to do that. Again, there's a segment of people who will... it comes back to, the natural man is an enemy to God and has been since the fall of Adam and will be forever and ever. A lot of people never get off the greed boat. But most people, as you start making more and more money, you look at anybody, you look at Bill Gates, look at Elon Musk, anyone who's making much money, what do they do with their money? Eventually they start giving it to charities or helping people... all these things, because there's that transition point where you feel that, you hear the voice, you hear God, whatever you want to call it. You should be serving more. And I think... I know that if my tax went from 50% to 20% to 10% or whatever that thing was, I would and could give so much more, and everybody could. Right now, half the money goes to organizations that... what's happening with the money? Do we know? Do we see any ledger of what's happening? No, it's insane. Josh: Even Bill Maher, who... do you know Bill Maher? Russell: I know who he is, I don't follow him- Josh: Stupid... super left, right? Definitely would not align with our political views, or your... or my political views. But even him is like, I have no idea what my tax dollars are going to. I have no idea where my millions of dollars I pay every- Russell: Isn't that scary? Josh: Isn't that crazy. It's wild. Only the government. It's crazy. Russell: And then they go like... sorry, this is a plug for OUR and Tim Ballard. Tim Ballard, I know does not take a salary. His payment for being CEO of Operation Underground Railroad and risking his life day in and day out is zero dollars they pay him. He funds it himself. All the money he makes is from his books, his speaking, other things he does, externally to pay for himself, because he doesn't want to take money from an organization saving kids. Can you say that about any of the government- Josh: Yeah. Russell: ...no, it's insane. It's... anyway. But, yeah. So for me, it's like- Josh: Somebody's going to mention that Trump takes a zero dollar salary in there. That's not what we're talking about. Russell: But for me, it's like, that's my big thing, understanding that I think there's this blend of left and right. If we're not producing, the fact that I'm going to wake up every morning and kill myself, even though I have more money than I'm ever going to need, now we have 400 plus people who have full-time jobs here... excuse me, full-time jobs here at ClickFunnels. It's 144,000 people who have active ClickFunnels accounts. Each of those people, if they had one employee, it's 144,000 jobs. If they had two to three, that means... you're looking at... it's probably half a million to a million jobs have been created because of ClickFunnels, because we get up every day and we're chasing something, we're producing, producing, producing, right? If you take away incentives of that... I'd have to lay off half my staff, which then... and then everything starts disappearing really quickly. Where it's like, if they took that away, now we can go and how much more could we do? We did the OUR... we talked about OUR and showed the documentary at Funnel Hacking Live, and since then, four or five dozen people who were in our community showed the OUR documentary at their events and made money, and it's like this ripple effect keeps growing, growing, growing, versus the other side where it's just... it shrinks and- Josh: Okay, so, I want to get non-specifically political here for a second with this and... I don't want to say play the devil's advocate, I just want to understand your thoughts on this. So the argument on the other side, if you will, the people that are more traditionally higher tax bracket, you should be taxed even higher. We want to take more of your money away because it's this. Basically, the thought process is like... listen, you have donated your money to Kenya and to Operation Underground Railroad and things like that, but guess what, there's probably people here in your own community, like in Boise, for example, right, or wherever these entrepreneurs are, that you have millions and millions of dollars, there's people that are homeless. There's people who can't afford medical payments, or there's people who genuinely need help. And so the argument is, yeah, you've given some, but you have so much of it, you could do that and be taxed higher. We could take even more of your money and your life wouldn't change at all, and we're also like... not talking about your business money, we're only talking about profit, we're only going to take that part of it away. And so the argument on the other side is, if collectively... and I'm just going to make up a number here. Let's just say there's 10,000 entrepreneurs like you in America, that have millions of dollars or billions of dollars... I know you don't have billions.... billions of dollars, we could take all that money, and hypothetically, we could solve a lot of these issues. We could tax the top 10 richest people, whatever. Why doesn't that work? Or, A, I guess it's a two-part question. A, are you... A, why doesn't that work, and B, what is your solution for that, if any? What's your perspective, your view on how that would help? Russell: Yeah, I think- Josh: Or can you not help everybody? Russell: This is the fun part, politics, right? It's tough, and I'll preface this before we dive into the actual question... it's tough because there's good on both sides and there's bad on both sides. That's the hardest thing, right? And so that's the hard thing, is you can argue both ways. Let's say me as an entrepreneur, because I only know experiences through my own self, right? Josh: Right. Russell: I know what I pay in taxes every single year. I know how much goes away, I know how much I make. And it's tough because the more... the less you make for the more you work, the less incentivized you are to keep working. If my take-home was $100 grand a year, I'd be like, why am I killing myself? I could work three hours a day and make that, so why would I keep doing this stuff? If there's no reward, then it's hard, right? It's like, what's the purpose of doing any of this stuff? And it'd be really easy to then shrink back, and the company shrinks, employees shrink, everything shrinks because there's no incentive for us to risk everything. It's a risk reward thing. That's a big part of it. How do you solve it, I don't know, I don't think the solution is the government to come in with a gun and saying, give us half your money so we can go solve this problem. I think it's, man, what are the things in you're interested in saving? What are the things that touches your heart, what are the things that you're inspired to actually help? For me it's Kenya, for me it's this, for me it's... there's other things that we give money to that I don't talk about publicly. But there's things that... what are the things that I care about? Let me focus there. Everyone's got different agendas. I had Matt Maddix, someone who I... Caleb Maddix is the father, he's super awesome guy. He came to me and he's like, "Hey, my mission is to save these kids off the streets and this stuff..." all these kinds of things. I'm like, "That's amazing," he's like, "Can you help me?" I'm like, "That's not my calling. My calling are these things here. That's your calling, dude, I respect it, I support it, I'll help give money or whatever I can do to help. But that's your calling. God gave you that. That was the thing that you were given, that's the mantel you're in charge of." And everyone's got a different mantel. So your calling might be different from mine, people come to me all the time like, "Oh, that charity's cool, but I support this." Like, good, I don't care who you support. Everyone's got different callings and they're all good. So I think we should be able to say, what's the thing that speaks to our heart that we're passionate about, and that's what we should focus our time and our energy and our money on, not... again, don't come with the guns saying, "Give me 50% because I think it should go over here." Josh: But what about the people though, that... let's pretend, and I have... guys, I love Elon Musk, I'm going to use him purely as an example. Clearly I have no idea what he does with his money. But let's pretend. So, Elon Musk and all his money... what if he wasn't charitable? Should the government, or anybody, be able to come in and be like, "Yo, you have so much money." Or Zuckerberg, or whatever. "You have so much money. We're going to... you got..." I don't know, he's worth $90 billion. Let's say he has $3 billion in liquid cash. I'm just... hypotheticals here. "You got $3 billion here literally sitting here. We're going to take that away and we're going to give you... you can have $500 million if it, but we're going to take $2.5 billion and give it to people who actually need it." Do you think that there needs to be some overriding law or power or something that's like, "Yo, you can't just hoard. You got to... if you have more than enough, you got to go and give it back." Or do you think that's a personal choice? Russell: I think it's a personal choice. Think about, how many jobs has he created? He's giving that stuff, and this is the reward for this risk and reward side of thing. And his $3 billion, let's say, what's his next thing? He's not just going to sit on it, that's stupid. For him, for anybody, right? Josh: Right. Russell: He's going to go invest in the next thing, he's going to create more jobs, do more things, to stimulate the economy in different ways. He's going to go and start PayPal, and then he's going to start Tesla, and then he's going to start sending rocket ships to space. A producer's going to produce, because they want to produce. It's the art for them. So let them create art because the byproduct of art is jobs, it is stimulation of the economy, all those things happening. And so for me, building funnels is my art. I couldn't care less about the revenue that comes from it. I need the revenue to be able to hire the teams and the people and the things that we need to be able to continue the art, to pay Zuckerberg, to show my ads on the thing. All these things are part of it. So I think, yeah, if he's sitting on $3 billion, it's just sitting there, but producers don't typically do that. They're reinvesting, they're doing stuff with it that creates more. Josh: I want you to come up with a story on the spot, go. Which you're pretty good at. But I want you to talk about that. Producers produce. I think that might be one of the... actually, I'm curious to know... I feel like that is one of the most misunderstood things about the ultra-wealthy. The people that are actually... not like, I inherited $200 million because I'm a trust fund baby. But the actual Elon Musks of the world, the Jeff Bezoses of the world, the Russell Brunsons of the world, what ultimately drives you to go keep doing more? You have all of the money. And I know... we talked about the... you want to contribute back part, but there's a million different ways you can contribute. Why do you do the things that you do? Because I feel like one of the misunderstood things is... and this is something I don't know how to explain it to people that don't know it, I told my fiance, I was like, "You should listen to Russell." Because I'm like, "I think like that." You know what I mean? If you don't understand me, maybe you could see it from somebody else and know that I'm not weird. I mean, I am, but there's other people like me, that think like this. But it's like, how would you explain to somebody that Elon Musk is going to do what Elon Musk does. He's Elon Musk. Zuckerberg, or whoever- Russell: Hank Reardon. Josh: Right, right, whoever. Russell Brunson. You're going to do what you do, because that's who you are. You build things, and the result of... because you need to build things, you need resources. So you're like, man, if I want to go build this thing over here, I need $100 million, or I need $10 million. I'm just going to go make that money, and I'm going to go do it here. And you're basically just organizing things. You're either creating or you're organizing. How does that mentality work? I don't think the average person understands that. And I think that's one of the big misconceptions of... because this goes back to the greed thing, and the reason I really don't like the word greed is because there is so much misconception about it, although I will say the definition says that it's probably that. Russell: It is a negative word... the connotation's super negative. Josh: But it's like, you don't exclusively do it because you're greedy. You did it because you don't know how to do anything else. You know what I mean? Russell: Yeah. Josh: Sorry, sorry, Alex Charfen… We can't turn it off, and we don't understand why anybody would want to. Russell: Yeah, yeah. Josh: Like that, that's the thing. Russell: If you think about it, it's creation. Why was man put on this earth? Were we put on Earth to wake up, watch TV, go back to bed? No, we have creative powers in our body, that’s how husband and wife get together and have children and create. That's the mission on Earth, we're always creating. Any of us, you get married, you create something, we need a house, where are we going to live at? And you create things to be able to get a job, to be able to organize matter, to be able to make, oh, we have a house now we can move into. And that's the thing, so many people though, they become... the word that Garrett White uses best, sedated. Where there's pain, and so because the pain, they're sedated, so they just sit in the moment of, they don't want the pain. Because the pressure is too heavy for the one point, it hurts so bad, they say, I have to stop. Versus what we talk about, over the last six years, I get destroyed, then increased capacity, then destroyed. And so there's two sets of people, there's the people that aren't producing, they're sedating, because they're afraid of the pain, nervous of the pain, trying to hide from the pain, I get that. There's been seasons of my life where I've felt pain and I just want to hide, and I have. And then there's seasons of your life, at least hopefully for most... and I wish everybody could experience it, because the opposite of it, when you're in the creation zone, when you're creating, you're doing it, it's hard, it's a different... both of them are hard, they're different hards, right? One is there's so much fear, there's so much just trying to get out of the pain, and the other one is just... you create to create, right? You can ask my team, we build a funnel, and for me, it's just like, look at this thing we created. We create a product or an event or whatever, and it's like, the creation of the thing, and sharing it with people, that's... I don't know. And I think it's the same way when I was wrestling, that was my art at the time, and I didn't want to do anything besides wrestling. When to tournaments and tournaments, I'm like, what's the next tournament, what's the next thing, kept doing that, kept doing that, my entire life, because that was the art. After awhile, you just want to keep performing what you're doing, right? And I think that if you can get out of that sedation that most people live in... I say the majority of- Josh: And I think that's the issue, that for you and I, we create. Entrepreneurs, funnel hackers, free thinkers of the world, they go out there and they create because it's like, that's what we do. Russell: Yeah. Josh: I don't think that's how most of the world operates. Russell: Yeah. Did you... initially, right, when they're born, they have that seed, that seed of whatever we call it, growth, greed, whatever, right? Something happens in life where they get the pain and they sedate because it's easier. I think that's one of the biggest problems, and I am anti-drug, anti everything that causes sedation, because most of the world, I see... especially in entrepreneurial community, where people could be doing so much more, but instead there's sedating with drugs or alcohol or weed or whatever, because it's like, let me take the pressure of myself. And man, what a tragedy. You could be producing and changing so many people's lives, but it's like, I need an outlet. The outlet causes sedation, it takes you out of your ability to produce. I think the majority of people, that's what they do. It drives me crazy, I see all the conversation on Facebook of... there's entrepreneur events where people come together, they literally... there's sessions, we talk about what mushrooms they use to hallucinate... it just drives me nuts. You guys are sedating to get out of this pain as opposed to stepping into the pain, creating and changing people's lives. So I'm very vocal, anti all that kind of stuff, because I think so many people, that's what they slip back into. One of the greatest blessings of my religion that I believe is I don't have these tools to sedate that most people use. And so my outlet is creation. If my outlet was drinking, if my outlet was drugs, if my outlet was these other things, I wouldn't have been able to produce, but I don't, so my outlet's got to be what, what is it? Production, let's create something amazing. And I think too many people let themselves off the hook and just, oh, I can create or maybe watch TV, or I'm going to go eat, or I'm going to go... if your outlet is something that sedates you, that's taking you out of your creative zone, I think most people slip back because it's easier, it's cheaper, it doesn't cause the pain. Garrett White's whole mission, Wake-Up Warriors, waking men up from that sedated state that most of our society are stuck into. That’s why I relate to him so well, because I see it in people I love, that I care about, like, you're sedated, if we could break you out of that and get you into production, you could change the world. Josh: Yeah, I think it's interesting. So, I have a coach who I think did that for me... I mean, I don't use Garrett White, which... that's an intense man, oh my word. Garrett, if you're listening, I would love to talk to you. Come on the show. I've always plugged him. Hey, if I'm ever going to get a guest... Elon Musk, if you're listening. Anyway. But I have a coach, Katie Richardson. You know Katie. Katie is... outside of my immediate family, and Leah, obviously, top three people that changed my life, Katie Richardson and Russell Brunson are two of those people that are in that top thing, right? So Katie is someone that I work with one-on-one. I don't think I was ever sedated in the sense of what you're talking about, but the opposite of sedation is being alive. Really, truly, coming alive, understanding who you are, what you are put on this earth here to do. And so the thing that I struggled with for the longest time, even from the beginning days of this entrepreneur, is right and wrong. I didn't want to do the wrong thing. I didn't want to tick anybody off, because that would be bad. Like, oh, man, you don't want to get into a fight, because that's bad. I don't want to make too much money because that might be bad. Or I don't want to say the wrong thing because it might be bad. So I lived in this black and white, is it right or is it wrong. Katie came along, and she's like, "Josh, there is no right and wrong." There is in the sense of moral right and wrong... I'm not going to go into that concept, but... universal truth, I do believe there's absolute truth. But in the sense of our everyday life, it's not so much is it the right thing or the wrong thing, it's what are you going to choose to do. But you can only know what you're going to choose if you're alive, if you know who you are, and you know what you're put on this earth to do. And that's why... it's funny, you might... I think you may know this sorry. So my brother dies, helicopter crash, beginning of 2019, kind of wrecked my whole life, ending up selling the company, sold the business to an investor, business partner took over, and Leah and I took off on our own. And it's supposed to be this four-month long trip where I was going to disconnect and figure out life and everything like that. And Christmas time, it's about a week before Christmas, and we're in the Philippines, in the middle of absolutely freaking nowhere. The nearest airport, hospital, anything, is six hours away. Absolute middle of nowhere. And Leah gets an intestinal eating parasite. She gets super, super sick. Can't sit up, can't keep food down. I'm like, oh my gosh, we're in the Philippines, middle of nowhere. So we go to the emergency room, and we get there and it's a cart... it's like a piece of plywood with two-inch foam, and there's no doors on the bathroom, no toilet seat, there's ants crawling... it's terrible, right? And so long story short, we end up having to cut our trip two months early, we lose tens of thousands of dollars in deposits getting her home or whatever. And I have no business at this point. We're supposed to be going for two months longer. I was supposed to fly home... I was supposed to come to Funnel Hacking Live, that was going to be our coming home. And I find myself in the basement of my girlfriend's mom's house, the night before Christmas, going like, "What am I doing with my life? How did I end up here?" I go through the process like, okay, I need a coach. And I go through and I interview a bunch of different coaches and I end up choosing Katie. And I'm like, "All right, Katie, you're going to solve all my business problems for me. You're going to help me make all this money, you're going to help me build this million-dollar business," and everything like that. And so the very, very first call, I'll never forget, the very first question, she's like, "All right. Vent. I know you need to." Just brain dump, vent for 20, 30 minutes straight. I'm like, "What's the answer?" And she goes, "Josh, who are you?" I was like, "Really? That's where we're going to start this whole conversation?" I just paid you 60 grand? And looking back now, that... and I do have a full circle with this. Looking back now, figuring out who I was gave me my permission to go do what I was called to do, without the fear of what anybody else thought. And I'm not trying to intentionally piss anybody off. I don't want people to actually hate me. But I'm so certain in what I'm doing and knowing who I am, that I know I'm a contributor to society. I know that I make the world better with what I do because I believe that everybody, deep down inside, God has given talents. And I believe that the thing that, whatever it is that you're good at, that you like to do or whatever, that's the talent that God gave you, and you have a choice on how you're going to go out and use that, and I believe that we should use that to serve Him. The problem is, is that I don't think... I think an overwhelming majority of the world has no idea who they are or what they're called to be. And because of that, the people like you or Elon or whoever, the producers of society, that know who they are, what their talents are, what they're called to do, things like that... you've seen my growth. You've watched me transition from this crazy little kid to this... that came by learning who I was and how I was contributing in the world and doing what I was called here and what I was put here for. So when you talk about sedation, I feel like that's the issue of, you're sedated, and so they don't even know who they are. They don't even know how to tap into it, they don't know how to understand it. Because of that, they look at someone like you, they look at someone like me, and they go, "Well, you're preventing me. You're taking away my ability to go do something, because you're taking all the money. You're taking all the opportunity. You have a category and the king of the market, so I can't go and do it then." To those people, this concept of, because you're successful I can't be successful, what is your response there? How do you interpret that? Russell: Yeah. Josh: How do you help someone shift and be like, just because I did it doesn't mean you can't. Russell: Yeah. It's interesting because... it's funny because for me it's such a foreign thing to understand that. I see that so many times entrepreneurs where, it's that mentality of there's not enough money, not enough opportunities or resources, whatever. You know this, I know this, and the bigger problem I have is there are so many opportunities, every single day... it's not that there's not enough opportunities, it's there's so many, it's like, how do you... I think when people start understanding that, look around. Learn some basic skills. The original DotComSecrets book I wrote because I'm like, if anyone took these principles, looked at any business, you could apply it and boom, it just works. It's magic. There's not a business on this... Adam’s Eye Care, I can see right there out the window... I can take DotComSecrets principles and blow that company up overnight. And so if you have these tools, you could do anything, you could sell phones, you could sell watches, you could sell books, you could sell podcasts. I think when people start understanding that, it's just education, they don't understand it. I have friends before who are like, “life's tough right now, there are no opportunities”. And I'm just like, what? There are so many opportunities, but you have to have the skillset that actually... can produce it. I think a big frustration obviously, I have, I think you have as well, is... and we talked about this a little tonight, with my kids... a lot of the things we were equipped with are school... the school system doesn’t equip you to be able to capitalize on opportunities. It doesn't, unless you're like, I want to be a doctor. Cool, this is the process, now you can capitalize on being a doctor or being a dentist, or whatever that traditional path is. To be able to walk in and make it rain somewhere, those skillsets aren't found in school. And you think about in any business, there's a couple personalities. There's the entrepreneur who starts it. Then there's the managers who are managing the people, there's the technicians who are doing the thing, and there's the rainmakers who come in and make money. If you learn that skillset... how do you become a rainmaker? How do you go in, and you can plug in any business, any opportunity, and you can turn it into money? And every door you walk past, there's opportunity. There's infinite, every human you see there's opportunity, right? People have to learn how to take the talent and learn how to market the talent. God gives us all different things. Some people... Kaelin Poulin, God gave her a gift to be able to help women lose weight. But it wasn't until she learned how to market that that it was actually now... now, the opportunity is huge. They’ve got, I don't know, 100 employees at her company, millions of women they've served across the world. Taking your God-given talent, learning how to make it rain, putting those two things together, now, unlimited opportunities. So I think a lot of times, we're given... and that's why I'm so loud about my mission, I try to share so much, because I believe that God's given everyone a calling. Says in the Scriptures, many are called, but few are chosen. Everybody's called. Everybody gets a calling. Everybody gets that tap on the shoulder. Everyone gets the opportunity. No matter where you're born, where you're... everyone gets the opportunity, you're called. Most people don't do it, or they don't know how to do it, because they have this talent, this hobby, this thing... and then what happens? They sedate, they hide, or they search. And if you search, you find the answer, and it's like, oh my gosh, now I can make this change the world. Josh: But do you think everybody has that talent though? Obviously, there's only one Russell Brunson. But I have discussions with my mom a lot. I have a great relationship with my mom. My mom always tells me, she's like, "Josh, not everybody's you. Not everybody thinks like you. Not everybody has to drive like you. Not everybody has the confidence like you. Not everybody has the..." and I'm like, you don't have to. You can do the same things, just in your own way. Russell: And everyone's got a different view of success, too. Josh: Right. Russell: One of my first mentors taught me that... when I launched my first mastermind group, he pulled me aside and he's like, "Your mastermind group's going to fail if you try to put your version of success on all those people." And I was like, "What do you mean?" He's like... it was funny, because he was in the room and he's like... I can't say names because some of you may know someone. He's like, "you see that guy, you know why he’s in the room?" I'm like, "Why?" He's like, "He wants to hear himself talk. That's why he's here. And if I try to force him to do something, he's not going to do it. That guy right there? He's here because he wants to hang out with the group and network people. You? You're here because you want to steal everybody's ideas, right?" He's like, "If you try to launch a mastermind, your goal is to build a $100 million company, you try to put that, your values on the people, you're going to make them all fail." And that was a big a-ha for me, everyone's got a different vision of success. Maybe your brother, someone, your sister... family member, may not think like you or be like you, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean they have to change a million people's lives to change the world. It could be they're a mom, and they can be the best mom in the world and they change their kid's life, that's a calling. Josh: And that's what I want you to touch on. I want you to expand upon that. Because I feel like... man, I hear so many arguments, I'm trying to figure out which one fits best here. But, "Josh, we need the plumbers of the world." Russell: Yeah. Josh: Right? We need the people who will come in vacuum the carpet. We need the people that'll just do the mediocre tasks and that are not important, and that'll do those in and out and in and out and in and out. And, yeah, that. Because I feel like... how do I say this. I believe that a majority of the people in this world are not living up to their true potential. A massive... overwhelming majority are not- Russell: I don't think anyone is, to be honest. I don't think I am. Josh: Right. Russell: Yes, so, yes, 100%. Josh: But, you're living far more potential like the average person is, right? And how I look at is, I go, hey, listen, not everybody can do what you do or what I do, or whatever. Okay... how do I bring it around so it’s more… clear? I’m going to use a political aspect of things, because I think that's something we can all understand. Hey, poor people, victim mentality people... that's a controversial... you know what I'm saying. But victim mentality people, or poor people, they don't think like that, or maybe they didn't have as good a schooling, or maybe they didn't have as good an education, whatever. They don't have the same understanding that you do. So shouldn't we help them see that they can go and achieve more? Or should they... is their version of success... what am I trying to ask? Russell: The answer's yes, we should be, and that's what we're doing. I heard some of the... before, they're like, "Well, Russell, you have a $50,000 or $100,000 mastermind group, I can't afford that, that's not fair." I'm like, "Yeah, but I also do a podcast two to three times a week, every single week for six years. I've written three books you can get for 10 bucks, or you can get them for free." There's levels of it. The thing is there's value everywhere and if you pick it up, it increases... and you actually apply it? I'm a big believer that God gives all of us stewardship over things. He'll give you an idea, he'll give me an idea, he'll give anybody an idea, or desire. Here's some desire for you. You look at these kids who are struggling, but they get desire to play basketball and then they become Michael Jordan, or whoever... the people, right, because God gives them desire, or give them ideas, or talents. I'm a big believer in my business life, as I've been doing this journey now for 18 plus years, is that I got ideas, and a lot of the ideas I didn't do anything with. But some of them I took, I got the idea, and I'm not naïve to think, oh, I came up with this great idea. These are blessings from God, he's like, here's an idea, let's see if you're going to be a good steward with it. I get the idea, and if I do something with it, He's like, "Oh my gosh, Russell's a good steward of ideas, let me give him another idea." And if I don't do something with it, He's like, "All right, let me give it to somebody else." All the stuff is happening that would've happened without... somebody would've taken it. But I was a good steward of the thing and so I got blessed with another one and another one and another one. And I think that's a big part of it. I don't think that God... I do think that He puts us all on different spots to start with- Josh: Okay, that's a fascinating concept. Russell: 100%. He's giving us ideas or desires, things like that, and He's watching, are you going to be a good steward with it? If you are, I'll give you more, if you are, I'm going to give you more. So people can go from the worst of the worst and become the best in the world, people can start the best in the world and be horrible. Because what do you do with the things you're given stewardship over? Josh: So, what you're saying here, which is actually a fascinating concept, is that... I'm going to use the idea for ClickFunnels for example. The idea for ClickFunnels wasn't yours, per se. Russell: Do you know how many people were trying to build a funnel software when we built ClickFunnels? Josh: I'm sure a lot. Russell: All my friends were. Everybody was. Josh: So you have this idea that is essentially open for anybody... anybody could go and take advantage of this idea, you just... you're saying God put this idea in your head... and he probably put this idea in 100 peoples' heads, or 500... 10,000 peoples' heads or whatever. But you're like, I was the one who answered the calling to be, okay, I'm actually going to take this idea and do something with it. And so because of that, it's not that you took it away from anybody else... anybody could've done it, you're just the one who went out and actually just chose to do it and bring it to reality. Russell: Yup. 100%. Josh: Okay. Russell: There's a... I wish... somebody shared it to me and I haven't read the book. There's a book that tells a story... there's an author who had an idea for a book, sat down and started writing it, and someone's going to know it... it's a famous book, people would know this, I guarantee someone on this chat knows this. Josh: Somebody comment below when you here it, what it is. Russell: The author's writing the book, and then stops, runs out of time, forgets about it. And then six years later, this new book comes out, becomes a New York Times bestselling book, buys the book, starts reading, and is like, "This is the book that I was supposed to write." And it was like, oh my gosh, I didn't take stewardship of the idea, I stopped, and so God gave it to somebody else. It's the same book, right, it's just I didn't finish it. And I 100% believe that. I think it could be an idea, it could be desire, it could be a million things, we all have these different gifts of the spirit, that are given to us, and they sit back and watch and see what you're going to do with it. Josh: I feel like that could give a lot of people permission to go out and do stuff, too, right there. That viewpoint. Because one of the things that I struggled with early on, which, to a certain extent, I think I still struggle with a little bit, not nearly what I used to... why me? Not in a bad way of, oh, man, why do I... but why do I get these cool opportunities? I live a pretty good life, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, why do I get to have this conversation and not somebody else? Why am I the first person that gets to sit down with Russell Brunson and talk anything related to politics, ever? But it's like, that concept of simply because I chose to go do it. I chose to be the person that was capable of having this conversation, and became that person. And I think that because of that, what you just said right there, gives... to get people permission, you're not taking away from anybody else, and you're not inherently special. You are in your own way, but you're not... it wasn't... you're not the only person that could've built ClickFunnels. Russell: I'm shockingly average. You ask my wife, ask my parents... Russell is shockingly average. Josh: And you're actually super awkward to meet for the first time. Russell: Yeah. Josh: You know the first time... you remember the first time... I think I actually told you this, the first time I met you? Russell: Remind me. Josh: Okay, the first time I met you was at Grant Cardone’s 10X, the very first one. Russell: Okay. Josh: At the time, Grant had hired our team to do Instagram stuff. And this was super, super early on. I was dead broke. I couldn't afford to go to that conference if I wanted to. But because we were doing Instagram stuff, he gave us tickets. And we saw you get offstage and we're like, "Dude, I bet you if we run right now we can meet Russell." So we run downstairs and sure enough, there you are, coming down. And I walk up to you and I'm like, "Russell, oh my gosh, huge fan." And you're like, "Hey. Thanks." And we're like, oh, okay. We're like, "Can we get a picture?" You're like, "Um, yeah, I guess." So I go and normally when you go and take a picture, you put your arm around him, and things like that. You just literally just stood there. And I was like, I guess we're not doing that. And so there's this picture of me in… Russell: I gotta see this picture. Josh: I'll find it. I'll vox it to you. We're sitting there, I'm like... so, guys, Russell is- Russell: Is shockingly average. Josh: Is shockingly average, apparently. But back to the conversation, I remember what I was trying to ask. That was the very first time I met you. I was like, oh, man, I can be a millionaire, too. Russell: Before... I just want to... when I got started, this whole business, it was me and then I hired two of my buddies to come work for me, because they were the only people who cared what I was talking about. Josh: Yeah. Russell: And we're all working on this business, and I remember one of my buddies pulled me aside one day, and said, "The only difference between us two and you?" I said, "No." He said, "The only difference is you're in momentum, you're moving forward, so these opportunities keep coming to you because you're moving, moving, moving, moving." He's like, "We're sitting back here doing the thing, there's no opportunities coming to us because we're not moving." I think what you need to understand is when you're moving in forward, people are like, "Oh, you're lucky you came up with ClickFunnels." I'm like, "Do you know how many funnels I launched before ClickFunnels?" Over a 150. This is not 150 ads that are “create funnel in ClickFunnels, oh, that's a funnel”. It was me coming up with an idea, hiring a designer, writing a sales letter, putting the product together, putting the pages in FrontPage, uploading them through FTP, getting a shopping cart, connecting them 150 times. It took us three months on average through each one. 150 times before we came up with ClickFunnels. I was just moving forward, over and over and over and over and over while everyone else was sitting around waiting. Motion is the key. Josh: Yeah. Russell: The opportunities come. This is what I'm talking about with being a good steward. God gave me an idea for ZipBrander. Do you remember ZipBrander? No one does. That was the first idea and I was like, oh my gosh, ZipBrander. I found a guy in Romania, I paid him 20 bucks to build the software. I created, I got a thing... a header designed and a headline and a thing and I launched it, and I made 400 bucks. And then the next idea was this thing called Article Spider, do you remember the Article Spider? Josh: No. Russell: No one does. I paid someone a couple hundred bucks, I did that, I launched, I made 1700 bucks, and I was like, oh my gosh... Four Hundred Fortunes was number three. And then the next, and the next, and I could show you guys, I did this, I wrote them all... I went back in the Way Back Machine, I found all of them. Thing after thing after thing after thing. Idea after idea. The ideas pop in there, I execute on them, try and try, each one got better and better and better and better, and eventually, God's like, "All right, you're capable, you're a good steward, here's ClickFunnels, let's go with it." If you were to give me that initially, I wouldn't know what to do. It's the momentum, it's the motion that makes you worthy of the calling. And if you're not in momentum, if you're not moving forward, you're never going to get the calling. Many are called, but few are chosen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome to part 2 of the 5 part Atlas Shrugged interview! On today’s segment you’ll get to hear Russell and Josh discuss being a producer and how important it is to continually create content. 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What's up everybody, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. All right, my first question for you, is how'd you like the first part of the interview with me and Josh of Atlas Shrugged? I hope you enjoyed it.

Today, I'm going to give you guys part two of a five-part interview series. We will pick up after the intro song, we'll pick up where we left off. We'll keep diving into these topics, these concepts. Again, throughout this interview, we talk about religion, we talk about politics, and we talk about all these things through the lens of the Atlas Shrugged book.

So with that said, we'll cue up the theme song, we'll come back, we'll go into part two of my interview with Josh Forti about Atlas Shrugged.

Josh Forti:

Because what I'm trying to figure out, this is open discussion here... I am a pretty motivated, driven person. I never would've described what I was doing as greedy.

Russell Brunson:

Would you have thought that when you were an athlete, or thought when you were a kid-

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

...no. But what is it?

Josh:

Well, yeah. And that's why I asked you the question. Because I don't know the answer myself.

Russell:

I feel the same way, because I never... it wasn't until I was reading the book, The Utopia of Greed-

Josh:

Yeah, yeah.

Russell:

...and all of a sudden, I started thinking, all these things we're doing... we call them growth, we call them whatever, which is awesome, but it is... it's a greedy time in your life, right?

Josh:

Yeah. I wonder what the actual definition of greed is.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

I'm going to look this up. We'll see. Definition of greed.

Russell:

It has a def-... negative connotation in our world today.

Josh:

Intense and selfish desire for something, especially money, power or food.

Russell:

Or food.

Josh:

Well-

Russell:

There you go.

Josh:

All right. Money, power or food.

Russell:

For me, thinking about the lens of wrestling, when I was wrestling, I had a selfish desire for, I wanted to be a state champ, I wanted to be an all-American, I wanted to be a national champ-

Josh:

But why? Why?

Russell:

Because I wanted my hand-raising. That was all I thought about, all I dreamt about. I couldn't... I'm a very obsessive person, that's why I don't gamble. Because I was like, I put a quarter in and I win, I'm broke. It doesn't matter how much I started with, it’s gone. And I know that about myself. So when I started wrestling, and I got my hand raised the first time, I was like, that feels good, I want to feel that every day for the rest of my life.

And I just went, blinders on, and that's all I did, that was my... and I mean, I wouldn't have thought of it as greedy, but by definition, it's like, you need to focus on these things about yourself.

Now I'm in the phase of my life where I'm coaching wrestling, coaching my kids and stuff like that, and it's different, because there's nothing in it for you, except for seeing their hand-raising and that light in their eyes go off, and it's just like, that felt way better than my own. But you don't know that until you're in that phase.

Josh:

Yeah. Did having kids change that for you at all? Did it help solidify or give you a different perspective on that shift from greedy to-

Russell:

I think... maybe not so much solidify as much as I'm experiencing that in multiple parts of my life, not just the business part.

Josh:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Russell:

A lot in part, you think about our success stories and our business are our children, the children of ClickFunnels, whatever you want to say, they're the people that have come off it. So I think I'm experiencing it now with them, and it's been interesting and fun and... yeah.

Josh:

How long did it take you to finish the book?

Russell:

I think about two months.

Josh:

Oh, wow.

Russell:

You read it way faster than I did.

Josh:

Well, it's one of those things... it's funny because my mom was like, have you even read the book? I'm like, what do you mean, you made me read in high school. And I went back and I was like, oh, I didn't actually read... I knew the book, so I assumed I had read it. And then I realized it was 1200 pages and I was like, I don't remember reading a 1200-page book. I feel like I would've remembered that-

Russell:

I got to do it right now, because Russell's going to be talking about.

Josh:

Right. And that's exactly what happened. So it was like, oh, we want to do this, cool. And I could've sat down and had the conversation without reading the book. Because I knew the concept, the premise. And so then I went through it and... every night, two-and-a-half speed, couldn't sleep, I'd get up and like, oh, man, it's 3:00 in the morning. Close the book, go back in there. So-

Russell:

Can I interject?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

Because there is something you started on that I want to make sure we don’t miss, because I think it was... you started leading real good and there is somewhere I want to wrap it because it’s an open loop in my head now.

Josh:

Okay, okay, okay.

Russell:

You started talking about how you agree on the left side of social helping people, but not the way that they do it-

Josh:

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Russell:

...is that how you said it? Okay, so-

Josh:

I agree with what they want to do-

Russell:

Yes.

Josh:

...i don't agree with how they want to do it.

Russell:

Okay, so, this is something that was powerful. So after I read the book, I was geeking out, and I'm like, who is this Ayn Rand, I want to see. So I started searching her and I found an interview she did on Donahue, 1980, three months after her husband passed away. And it was a fascinating interview-

Josh:

Oh, dang.

Russell:

...she's atheist, does not believe in a god, all these things like that, so-

Josh:

She even made a statement about how part of the reason she wrote the book was to prove that religion was fake and to destroy all belief in any form-

Russell:

So once again-

Josh:

Super different.

Russell:

...this is not the Bible for me, this is just... stimulating book that got my mind spinning. One thing she said during the interview that was so cool, because Donahue's like, "So based on this, you believe that we should all be producers and greedy and keep all our money and we should never... we shouldn't help anybody." And she said, "No, no, no, that's not what I said." She's like, "I never said that." She said, "What I did say, is that it should not be the government coming to you with their guns saying, 'Give me your 50% of your taxes.'"

That's what's messed up. You think about this, if you give a gift... if someone comes to you and gives you a gun like, give your friend a gift, are you actually giving them a gift? No, you're not.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

If you don't pay the taxes, they put you in jail. That's the thing. She said, "People should go and support people on their own." This comes back to... this is the whole thing we talked about before, the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, unless he yields to the enticing of the Holy Spirit.

Us yielding saying, "Hey, I have all this money, I should go help other people with this." That's God saying, you should not be greedy, use what you've blessed with and help other people's lives. Right?

Them coming to you with a gun saying, "Pay your taxes or go to jail," is not you giving a gift. It's them taking it from you and giving it away. So you're not a better person because you did it, right? And then we get into the whole depth of... this is the government now who's the worst run organization in the history of all time, which… I won’t even rant on that. You want to trust them with the money, right?

So I just want to share a practical example, because people are like, "Well, you wouldn't give money if you didn't..." whatever. Right now, I'm taxed more than 50%, so more than half my income goes to Uncle Sam. He's doing whatever the crap they do with it.

Josh:

Well, you just need some Cash Flow Tactics.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Shameless plug.

Russell:

Yeah. Anyway, I have no idea, I don't actually do my taxes. That's the tax bracket. But then you look at... when you yield to the enticing of the Holy Spirit. So there was a time when my friend Stu McLaren is like, "Hey, we're building schools in Kenya, and this is mission and we believe in it, will you help?" It wasn't greedy Russ like, "I'm going to help and this is going to be awesome."

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

I felt something, I was like, "Oh my gosh. That is a great cause. Yeah, how can I support you?" In that process you can see, here's pictures of Stu and Amy in Kenya, we've been to Kenya four times now. We donated money, we built schools... that is a gift, versus give us money so we can go do something with it, right?

And then a couple years later, I heard about Operation Underground Railroad, and I was like, oh my gosh, and I felt the spirit saying, "This is a good cause, you should serve, you should do this thing." And I put time and energy and money into this thing. We raised multiple millions of dollars now to save children from sex slavery.

And not everyone's willing to do that. Again, there's a segment of people who will... it comes back to, the natural man is an enemy to God and has been since the fall of Adam and will be forever and ever. A lot of people never get off the greed boat. But most people, as you start making more and more money, you look at anybody, you look at Bill Gates, look at Elon Musk, anyone who's making much money, what do they do with their money? Eventually they start giving it to charities or helping people... all these things, because there's that transition point where you feel that, you hear the voice, you hear God, whatever you want to call it. You should be serving more.

And I think... I know that if my tax went from 50% to 20% to 10% or whatever that thing was, I would and could give so much more, and everybody could. Right now, half the money goes to organizations that... what's happening with the money? Do we know? Do we see any ledger of what's happening? No, it's insane.

Josh:

Even Bill Maher, who... do you know Bill Maher?

Russell:

I know who he is, I don't follow him-

Josh:

Stupid... super left, right? Definitely would not align with our political views, or your... or my political views. But even him is like, I have no idea what my tax dollars are going to. I have no idea where my millions of dollars I pay every-

Russell:

Isn't that scary?

Josh:

Isn't that crazy. It's wild. Only the government. It's crazy.

Russell:

And then they go like... sorry, this is a plug for OUR and Tim Ballard. Tim Ballard, I know does not take a salary. His payment for being CEO of Operation Underground Railroad and risking his life day in and day out is zero dollars they pay him. He funds it himself. All the money he makes is from his books, his speaking, other things he does, externally to pay for himself, because he doesn't want to take money from an organization saving kids. Can you say that about any of the government-

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

...no, it's insane. It's... anyway. But, yeah. So for me, it's like-

Josh:

Somebody's going to mention that Trump takes a zero dollar salary in there. That's not what we're talking about.

Russell:

But for me, it's like, that's my big thing, understanding that I think there's this blend of left and right. If we're not producing, the fact that I'm going to wake up every morning and kill myself, even though I have more money than I'm ever going to need, now we have 400 plus people who have full-time jobs here... excuse me, full-time jobs here at ClickFunnels. It's 144,000 people who have active ClickFunnels accounts. Each of those people, if they had one employee, it's 144,000 jobs. If they had two to three, that means... you're looking at... it's probably half a million to a million jobs have been created because of ClickFunnels, because we get up every day and we're chasing something, we're producing, producing, producing, right?

If you take away incentives of that... I'd have to lay off half my staff, which then... and then everything starts disappearing really quickly. Where it's like, if they took that away, now we can go and how much more could we do? We did the OUR... we talked about OUR and showed the documentary at Funnel Hacking Live, and since then, four or five dozen people who were in our community showed the OUR documentary at their events and made money, and it's like this ripple effect keeps growing, growing, growing, versus the other side where it's just... it shrinks and-

Josh:

Okay, so, I want to get non-specifically political here for a second with this and... I don't want to say play the devil's advocate, I just want to understand your thoughts on this.

So the argument on the other side, if you will, the people that are more traditionally higher tax bracket, you should be taxed even higher. We want to take more of your money away because it's this. Basically, the thought process is like... listen, you have donated your money to Kenya and to Operation Underground Railroad and things like that, but guess what, there's probably people here in your own community, like in Boise, for example, right, or wherever these entrepreneurs are, that you have millions and millions of dollars, there's people that are homeless. There's people who can't afford medical payments, or there's people who genuinely need help.

And so the argument is, yeah, you've given some, but you have so much of it, you could do that and be taxed higher. We could take even more of your money and your life wouldn't change at all, and we're also like... not talking about your business money, we're only talking about profit, we're only going to take that part of it away.

And so the argument on the other side is, if collectively... and I'm just going to make up a number here. Let's just say there's 10,000 entrepreneurs like you in America, that have millions of dollars or billions of dollars... I know you don't have billions.... billions of dollars, we could take all that money, and hypothetically, we could solve a lot of these issues. We could tax the top 10 richest people, whatever. Why doesn't that work? Or, A, I guess it's a two-part question. A, are you... A, why doesn't that work, and B, what is your solution for that, if any? What's your perspective, your view on how that would help?

Russell:

Yeah, I think-

Josh:

Or can you not help everybody?

Russell:

This is the fun part, politics, right? It's tough, and I'll preface this before we dive into the actual question... it's tough because there's good on both sides and there's bad on both sides. That's the hardest thing, right? And so that's the hard thing, is you can argue both ways.

Let's say me as an entrepreneur, because I only know experiences through my own self, right?

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

I know what I pay in taxes every single year. I know how much goes away, I know how much I make. And it's tough because the more... the less you make for the more you work, the less incentivized you are to keep working. If my take-home was $100 grand a year, I'd be like, why am I killing myself? I could work three hours a day and make that, so why would I keep doing this stuff? If there's no reward, then it's hard, right? It's like, what's the purpose of doing any of this stuff? And it'd be really easy to then shrink back, and the company shrinks, employees shrink, everything shrinks because there's no incentive for us to risk everything. It's a risk reward thing. That's a big part of it.

How do you solve it, I don't know, I don't think the solution is the government to come in with a gun and saying, give us half your money so we can go solve this problem. I think it's, man, what are the things in you're interested in saving? What are the things that touches your heart, what are the things that you're inspired to actually help? For me it's Kenya, for me it's this, for me it's... there's other things that we give money to that I don't talk about publicly. But there's things that... what are the things that I care about? Let me focus there.

Everyone's got different agendas. I had Matt Maddix, someone who I... Caleb Maddix is the father, he's super awesome guy. He came to me and he's like, "Hey, my mission is to save these kids off the streets and this stuff..." all these kinds of things. I'm like, "That's amazing," he's like, "Can you help me?" I'm like, "That's not my calling. My calling are these things here. That's your calling, dude, I respect it, I support it, I'll help give money or whatever I can do to help. But that's your calling. God gave you that. That was the thing that you were given, that's the mantel you're in charge of."

And everyone's got a different mantel. So your calling might be different from mine, people come to me all the time like, "Oh, that charity's cool, but I support this." Like, good, I don't care who you support. Everyone's got different callings and they're all good. So I think we should be able to say, what's the thing that speaks to our heart that we're passionate about, and that's what we should focus our time and our energy and our money on, not... again, don't come with the guns saying, "Give me 50% because I think it should go over here."

Josh:

But what about the people though, that... let's pretend, and I have... guys, I love Elon Musk, I'm going to use him purely as an example. Clearly I have no idea what he does with his money. But let's pretend. So, Elon Musk and all his money... what if he wasn't charitable? Should the government, or anybody, be able to come in and be like, "Yo, you have so much money." Or Zuckerberg, or whatever. "You have so much money. We're going to... you got..." I don't know, he's worth $90 billion. Let's say he has $3 billion in liquid cash. I'm just... hypotheticals here. "You got $3 billion here literally sitting here. We're going to take that away and we're going to give you... you can have $500 million if it, but we're going to take $2.5 billion and give it to people who actually need it."

Do you think that there needs to be some overriding law or power or something that's like, "Yo, you can't just hoard. You got to... if you have more than enough, you got to go and give it back." Or do you think that's a personal choice?

Russell:

I think it's a personal choice. Think about, how many jobs has he created? He's giving that stuff, and this is the reward for this risk and reward side of thing. And his $3 billion, let's say, what's his next thing? He's not just going to sit on it, that's stupid. For him, for anybody, right?

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

He's going to go invest in the next thing, he's going to create more jobs, do more things, to stimulate the economy in different ways. He's going to go and start PayPal, and then he's going to start Tesla, and then he's going to start sending rocket ships to space. A producer's going to produce, because they want to produce. It's the art for them. So let them create art because the byproduct of art is jobs, it is stimulation of the economy, all those things happening.

And so for me, building funnels is my art. I couldn't care less about the revenue that comes from it. I need the revenue to be able to hire the teams and the people and the things that we need to be able to continue the art, to pay Zuckerberg, to show my ads on the thing. All these things are part of it.

So I think, yeah, if he's sitting on $3 billion, it's just sitting there, but producers don't typically do that. They're reinvesting, they're doing stuff with it that creates more.

Josh:

I want you to come up with a story on the spot, go. Which you're pretty good at. But I want you to talk about that. Producers produce. I think that might be one of the... actually, I'm curious to know... I feel like that is one of the most misunderstood things about the ultra-wealthy. The people that are actually... not like, I inherited $200 million because I'm a trust fund baby. But the actual Elon Musks of the world, the Jeff Bezoses of the world, the Russell Brunsons of the world, what ultimately drives you to go keep doing more?

You have all of the money. And I know... we talked about the... you want to contribute back part, but there's a million different ways you can contribute. Why do you do the things that you do? Because I feel like one of the misunderstood things is... and this is something I don't know how to explain it to people that don't know it, I told my fiance, I was like, "You should listen to Russell." Because I'm like, "I think like that." You know what I mean? If you don't understand me, maybe you could see it from somebody else and know that I'm not weird. I mean, I am, but there's other people like me, that think like this.

But it's like, how would you explain to somebody that Elon Musk is going to do what Elon Musk does. He's Elon Musk. Zuckerberg, or whoever-

Russell:

Hank Reardon.

Josh:

Right, right, whoever. Russell Brunson. You're going to do what you do, because that's who you are. You build things, and the result of... because you need to build things, you need resources. So you're like, man, if I want to go build this thing over here, I need $100 million, or I need $10 million. I'm just going to go make that money, and I'm going to go do it here. And you're basically just organizing things. You're either creating or you're organizing.

How does that mentality work? I don't think the average person understands that. And I think that's one of the big misconceptions of... because this goes back to the greed thing, and the reason I really don't like the word greed is because there is so much misconception about it, although I will say the definition says that it's probably that.

Russell:

It is a negative word... the connotation's super negative.

Josh:

But it's like, you don't exclusively do it because you're greedy. You did it because you don't know how to do anything else. You know what I mean?

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Sorry, sorry, Alex Charfen… We can't turn it off, and we don't understand why anybody would want to.

Russell:

Yeah, yeah.

Josh:

Like that, that's the thing.

Russell:

If you think about it, it's creation. Why was man put on this earth? Were we put on Earth to wake up, watch TV, go back to bed? No, we have creative powers in our body, that’s how husband and wife get together and have children and create. That's the mission on Earth, we're always creating.

Any of us, you get married, you create something, we need a house, where are we going to live at? And you create things to be able to get a job, to be able to organize matter, to be able to make, oh, we have a house now we can move into.

And that's the thing, so many people though, they become... the word that Garrett White uses best, sedated. Where there's pain, and so because the pain, they're sedated, so they just sit in the moment of, they don't want the pain. Because the pressure is too heavy for the one point, it hurts so bad, they say, I have to stop.

Versus what we talk about, over the last six years, I get destroyed, then increased capacity, then destroyed. And so there's two sets of people, there's the people that aren't producing, they're sedating, because they're afraid of the pain, nervous of the pain, trying to hide from the pain, I get that. There's been seasons of my life where I've felt pain and I just want to hide, and I have.

And then there's seasons of your life, at least hopefully for most... and I wish everybody could experience it, because the opposite of it, when you're in the creation zone, when you're creating, you're doing it, it's hard, it's a different... both of them are hard, they're different hards, right? One is there's so much fear, there's so much just trying to get out of the pain, and the other one is just... you create to create, right?

You can ask my team, we build a funnel, and for me, it's just like, look at this thing we created. We create a product or an event or whatever, and it's like, the creation of the thing, and sharing it with people, that's... I don't know. And I think it's the same way when I was wrestling, that was my art at the time, and I didn't want to do anything besides wrestling. When to tournaments and tournaments, I'm like, what's the next tournament, what's the next thing, kept doing that, kept doing that, my entire life, because that was the art. After awhile, you just want to keep performing what you're doing, right?

And I think that if you can get out of that sedation that most people live in... I say the majority of-

Josh:

And I think that's the issue, that for you and I, we create. Entrepreneurs, funnel hackers, free thinkers of the world, they go out there and they create because it's like, that's what we do.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

I don't think that's how most of the world operates.

Russell:

Yeah. Did you... initially, right, when they're born, they have that seed, that seed of whatever we call it, growth, greed, whatever, right? Something happens in life where they get the pain and they sedate because it's easier. I think that's one of the biggest problems, and I am anti-drug, anti everything that causes sedation, because most of the world, I see... especially in entrepreneurial community, where people could be doing so much more, but instead there's sedating with drugs or alcohol or weed or whatever, because it's like, let me take the pressure of myself.

And man, what a tragedy. You could be producing and changing so many people's lives, but it's like, I need an outlet. The outlet causes sedation, it takes you out of your ability to produce. I think the majority of people, that's what they do. It drives me crazy, I see all the conversation on Facebook of... there's entrepreneur events where people come together, they literally... there's sessions, we talk about what mushrooms they use to hallucinate... it just drives me nuts. You guys are sedating to get out of this pain as opposed to stepping into the pain, creating and changing people's lives.

So I'm very vocal, anti all that kind of stuff, because I think so many people, that's what they slip back into. One of the greatest blessings of my religion that I believe is I don't have these tools to sedate that most people use. And so my outlet is creation. If my outlet was drinking, if my outlet was drugs, if my outlet was these other things, I wouldn't have been able to produce, but I don't, so my outlet's got to be what, what is it? Production, let's create something amazing.

And I think too many people let themselves off the hook and just, oh, I can create or maybe watch TV, or I'm going to go eat, or I'm going to go... if your outlet is something that sedates you, that's taking you out of your creative zone, I think most people slip back because it's easier, it's cheaper, it doesn't cause the pain. Garrett White's whole mission, Wake-Up Warriors, waking men up from that sedated state that most of our society are stuck into.

That’s why I relate to him so well, because I see it in people I love, that I care about, like, you're sedated, if we could break you out of that and get you into production, you could change the world.

Josh:

Yeah, I think it's interesting. So, I have a coach who I think did that for me... I mean, I don't use Garrett White, which... that's an intense man, oh my word. Garrett, if you're listening, I would love to talk to you. Come on the show. I've always plugged him. Hey, if I'm ever going to get a guest... Elon Musk, if you're listening.

Anyway. But I have a coach, Katie Richardson. You know Katie. Katie is... outside of my immediate family, and Leah, obviously, top three people that changed my life, Katie Richardson and Russell Brunson are two of those people that are in that top thing, right? So Katie is someone that I work with one-on-one. I don't think I was ever sedated in the sense of what you're talking about, but the opposite of sedation is being alive. Really, truly, coming alive, understanding who you are, what you are put on this earth here to do.

And so the thing that I struggled with for the longest time, even from the beginning days of this entrepreneur, is right and wrong. I didn't want to do the wrong thing. I didn't want to tick anybody off, because that would be bad. Like, oh, man, you don't want to get into a fight, because that's bad. I don't want to make too much money because that might be bad. Or I don't want to say the wrong thing because it might be bad. So I lived in this black and white, is it right or is it wrong.

Katie came along, and she's like, "Josh, there is no right and wrong." There is in the sense of moral right and wrong... I'm not going to go into that concept, but... universal truth, I do believe there's absolute truth. But in the sense of our everyday life, it's not so much is it the right thing or the wrong thing, it's what are you going to choose to do. But you can only know what you're going to choose if you're alive, if you know who you are, and you know what you're put on this earth to do.

And that's why... it's funny, you might... I think you may know this sorry. So my brother dies, helicopter crash, beginning of 2019, kind of wrecked my whole life, ending up selling the company, sold the business to an investor, business partner took over, and Leah and I took off on our own. And it's supposed to be this four-month long trip where I was going to disconnect and figure out life and everything like that.

And Christmas time, it's about a week before Christmas, and we're in the Philippines, in the middle of absolutely freaking nowhere. The nearest airport, hospital, anything, is six hours away. Absolute middle of nowhere. And Leah gets an intestinal eating parasite. She gets super, super sick. Can't sit up, can't keep food down. I'm like, oh my gosh, we're in the Philippines, middle of nowhere.

So we go to the emergency room, and we get there and it's a cart... it's like a piece of plywood with two-inch foam, and there's no doors on the bathroom, no toilet seat, there's ants crawling... it's terrible, right? And so long story short, we end up having to cut our trip two months early, we lose tens of thousands of dollars in deposits getting her home or whatever. And I have no business at this point. We're supposed to be going for two months longer. I was supposed to fly home... I was supposed to come to Funnel Hacking Live, that was going to be our coming home.

And I find myself in the basement of my girlfriend's mom's house, the night before Christmas, going like, "What am I doing with my life? How did I end up here?" I go through the process like, okay, I need a coach. And I go through and I interview a bunch of different coaches and I end up choosing Katie. And I'm like, "All right, Katie, you're going to solve all my business problems for me. You're going to help me make all this money, you're going to help me build this million-dollar business," and everything like that.

And so the very, very first call, I'll never forget, the very first question, she's like, "All right. Vent. I know you need to." Just brain dump, vent for 20, 30 minutes straight. I'm like, "What's the answer?" And she goes, "Josh, who are you?" I was like, "Really? That's where we're going to start this whole conversation?" I just paid you 60 grand?

And looking back now, that... and I do have a full circle with this. Looking back now, figuring out who I was gave me my permission to go do what I was called to do, without the fear of what anybody else thought. And I'm not trying to intentionally piss anybody off. I don't want people to actually hate me. But I'm so certain in what I'm doing and knowing who I am, that I know I'm a contributor to society. I know that I make the world better with what I do because I believe that everybody, deep down inside, God has given talents. And I believe that the thing that, whatever it is that you're good at, that you like to do or whatever, that's the talent that God gave you, and you have a choice on how you're going to go out and use that, and I believe that we should use that to serve Him.

The problem is, is that I don't think... I think an overwhelming majority of the world has no idea who they are or what they're called to be. And because of that, the people like you or Elon or whoever, the producers of society, that know who they are, what their talents are, what they're called to do, things like that... you've seen my growth. You've watched me transition from this crazy little kid to this... that came by learning who I was and how I was contributing in the world and doing what I was called here and what I was put here for.

So when you talk about sedation, I feel like that's the issue of, you're sedated, and so they don't even know who they are. They don't even know how to tap into it, they don't know how to understand it. Because of that, they look at someone like you, they look at someone like me, and they go, "Well, you're preventing me. You're taking away my ability to go do something, because you're taking all the money. You're taking all the opportunity. You have a category and the king of the market, so I can't go and do it then."

To those people, this concept of, because you're successful I can't be successful, what is your response there? How do you interpret that?

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

How do you help someone shift and be like, just because I did it doesn't mean you can't.

Russell:

Yeah. It's interesting because... it's funny because for me it's such a foreign thing to understand that. I see that so many times entrepreneurs where, it's that mentality of there's not enough money, not enough opportunities or resources, whatever. You know this, I know this, and the bigger problem I have is there are so many opportunities, every single day... it's not that there's not enough opportunities, it's there's so many, it's like, how do you... I think when people start understanding that, look around. Learn some basic skills.

The original DotComSecrets book I wrote because I'm like, if anyone took these principles, looked at any business, you could apply it and boom, it just works. It's magic. There's not a business on this... Adam’s Eye Care, I can see right there out the window... I can take DotComSecrets principles and blow that company up overnight. And so if you have these tools, you could do anything, you could sell phones, you could sell watches, you could sell books, you could sell podcasts. I think when people start understanding that, it's just education, they don't understand it.

I have friends before who are like, “life's tough right now, there are no opportunities”. And I'm just like, what? There are so many opportunities, but you have to have the skillset that actually... can produce it. I think a big frustration obviously, I have, I think you have as well, is... and we talked about this a little tonight, with my kids... a lot of the things we were equipped with are school... the school system doesn’t equip you to be able to capitalize on opportunities. It doesn't, unless you're like, I want to be a doctor. Cool, this is the process, now you can capitalize on being a doctor or being a dentist, or whatever that traditional path is. To be able to walk in and make it rain somewhere, those skillsets aren't found in school.

And you think about in any business, there's a couple personalities. There's the entrepreneur who starts it. Then there's the managers who are managing the people, there's the technicians who are doing the thing, and there's the rainmakers who come in and make money. If you learn that skillset... how do you become a rainmaker? How do you go in, and you can plug in any business, any opportunity, and you can turn it into money? And every door you walk past, there's opportunity. There's infinite, every human you see there's opportunity, right? People have to learn how to take the talent and learn how to market the talent.

God gives us all different things. Some people... Kaelin Poulin, God gave her a gift to be able to help women lose weight. But it wasn't until she learned how to market that that it was actually now... now, the opportunity is huge. They’ve got, I don't know, 100 employees at her company, millions of women they've served across the world. Taking your God-given talent, learning how to make it rain, putting those two things together, now, unlimited opportunities.

So I think a lot of times, we're given... and that's why I'm so loud about my mission, I try to share so much, because I believe that God's given everyone a calling. Says in the Scriptures, many are called, but few are chosen. Everybody's called. Everybody gets a calling. Everybody gets that tap on the shoulder. Everyone gets the opportunity. No matter where you're born, where you're... everyone gets the opportunity, you're called. Most people don't do it, or they don't know how to do it, because they have this talent, this hobby, this thing... and then what happens? They sedate, they hide, or they search. And if you search, you find the answer, and it's like, oh my gosh, now I can make this change the world.

Josh:

But do you think everybody has that talent though? Obviously, there's only one Russell Brunson. But I have discussions with my mom a lot. I have a great relationship with my mom. My mom always tells me, she's like, "Josh, not everybody's you. Not everybody thinks like you. Not everybody has to drive like you. Not everybody has the confidence like you. Not everybody has the..." and I'm like, you don't have to. You can do the same things, just in your own way.

Russell:

And everyone's got a different view of success, too.

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

One of my first mentors taught me that... when I launched my first mastermind group, he pulled me aside and he's like, "Your mastermind group's going to fail if you try to put your version of success on all those people." And I was like, "What do you mean?" He's like... it was funny, because he was in the room and he's like... I can't say names because some of you may know someone. He's like, "you see that guy, you know why he’s in the room?" I'm like, "Why?" He's like, "He wants to hear himself talk. That's why he's here. And if I try to force him to do something, he's not going to do it. That guy right there? He's here because he wants to hang out with the group and network people. You? You're here because you want to steal everybody's ideas, right?"

He's like, "If you try to launch a mastermind, your goal is to build a $100 million company, you try to put that, your values on the people, you're going to make them all fail." And that was a big a-ha for me, everyone's got a different vision of success. Maybe your brother, someone, your sister... family member, may not think like you or be like you, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean they have to change a million people's lives to change the world. It could be they're a mom, and they can be the best mom in the world and they change their kid's life, that's a calling.

Josh:

And that's what I want you to touch on. I want you to expand upon that. Because I feel like... man, I hear so many arguments, I'm trying to figure out which one fits best here. But, "Josh, we need the plumbers of the world."

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Right? We need the people who will come in vacuum the carpet. We need the people that'll just do the mediocre tasks and that are not important, and that'll do those in and out and in and out and in and out. And, yeah, that. Because I feel like... how do I say this. I believe that a majority of the people in this world are not living up to their true potential. A massive... overwhelming majority are not-

Russell:

I don't think anyone is, to be honest. I don't think I am.

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

Yes, so, yes, 100%.

Josh:

But, you're living far more potential like the average person is, right? And how I look at is, I go, hey, listen, not everybody can do what you do or what I do, or whatever. Okay... how do I bring it around so it’s more… clear? I’m going to use a political aspect of things, because I think that's something we can all understand.

Hey, poor people, victim mentality people... that's a controversial... you know what I'm saying. But victim mentality people, or poor people, they don't think like that, or maybe they didn't have as good a schooling, or maybe they didn't have as good an education, whatever. They don't have the same understanding that you do. So shouldn't we help them see that they can go and achieve more? Or should they... is their version of success... what am I trying to ask?

Russell:

The answer's yes, we should be, and that's what we're doing. I heard some of the... before, they're like, "Well, Russell, you have a $50,000 or $100,000 mastermind group, I can't afford that, that's not fair." I'm like, "Yeah, but I also do a podcast two to three times a week, every single week for six years. I've written three books you can get for 10 bucks, or you can get them for free." There's levels of it. The thing is there's value everywhere and if you pick it up, it increases... and you actually apply it?

I'm a big believer that God gives all of us stewardship over things. He'll give you an idea, he'll give me an idea, he'll give anybody an idea, or desire. Here's some desire for you. You look at these kids who are struggling, but they get desire to play basketball and then they become Michael Jordan, or whoever... the people, right, because God gives them desire, or give them ideas, or talents.

I'm a big believer in my business life, as I've been doing this journey now for 18 plus years, is that I got ideas, and a lot of the ideas I didn't do anything with. But some of them I took, I got the idea, and I'm not naïve to think, oh, I came up with this great idea. These are blessings from God, he's like, here's an idea, let's see if you're going to be a good steward with it. I get the idea, and if I do something with it, He's like, "Oh my gosh, Russell's a good steward of ideas, let me give him another idea." And if I don't do something with it, He's like, "All right, let me give it to somebody else."

All the stuff is happening that would've happened without... somebody would've taken it. But I was a good steward of the thing and so I got blessed with another one and another one and another one. And I think that's a big part of it. I don't think that God... I do think that He puts us all on different spots to start with-

Josh:

Okay, that's a fascinating concept.

Russell:

100%. He's giving us ideas or desires, things like that, and He's watching, are you going to be a good steward with it? If you are, I'll give you more, if you are, I'm going to give you more. So people can go from the worst of the worst and become the best in the world, people can start the best in the world and be horrible. Because what do you do with the things you're given stewardship over?

Josh:

So, what you're saying here, which is actually a fascinating concept, is that... I'm going to use the idea for ClickFunnels for example. The idea for ClickFunnels wasn't yours, per se.

Russell:

Do you know how many people were trying to build a funnel software when we built ClickFunnels?

Josh:

I'm sure a lot.

Russell:

All my friends were. Everybody was.

Josh:

So you have this idea that is essentially open for anybody... anybody could go and take advantage of this idea, you just... you're saying God put this idea in your head... and he probably put this idea in 100 peoples' heads, or 500... 10,000 peoples' heads or whatever. But you're like, I was the one who answered the calling to be, okay, I'm actually going to take this idea and do something with it.

And so because of that, it's not that you took it away from anybody else... anybody could've done it, you're just the one who went out and actually just chose to do it and bring it to reality.

Russell:

Yup. 100%.

Josh:

Okay.

Russell:

There's a... I wish... somebody shared it to me and I haven't read the book. There's a book that tells a story... there's an author who had an idea for a book, sat down and started writing it, and someone's going to know it... it's a famous book, people would know this, I guarantee someone on this chat knows this.

Josh:

Somebody comment below when you here it, what it is.

Russell:

The author's writing the book, and then stops, runs out of time, forgets about it. And then six years later, this new book comes out, becomes a New York Times bestselling book, buys the book, starts reading, and is like, "This is the book that I was supposed to write." And it was like, oh my gosh, I didn't take stewardship of the idea, I stopped, and so God gave it to somebody else. It's the same book, right, it's just I didn't finish it.

And I 100% believe that. I think it could be an idea, it could be desire, it could be a million things, we all have these different gifts of the spirit, that are given to us, and they sit back and watch and see what you're going to do with it.

Josh:

I feel like that could give a lot of people permission to go out and do stuff, too, right there. That viewpoint. Because one of the things that I struggled with early on, which, to a certain extent, I think I still struggle with a little bit, not nearly what I used to... why me? Not in a bad way of, oh, man, why do I... but why do I get these cool opportunities? I live a pretty good life, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, why do I get to have this conversation and not somebody else? Why am I the first person that gets to sit down with Russell Brunson and talk anything related to politics, ever?

But it's like, that concept of simply because I chose to go do it. I chose to be the person that was capable of having this conversation, and became that person. And I think that because of that, what you just said right there, gives... to get people permission, you're not taking away from anybody else, and you're not inherently special. You are in your own way, but you're not... it wasn't... you're not the only person that could've built ClickFunnels.

Russell:

I'm shockingly average. You ask my wife, ask my parents... Russell is shockingly average.

Josh:

And you're actually super awkward to meet for the first time.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

You know the first time... you remember the first time... I think I actually told you this, the first time I met you?

Russell:

Remind me.

Josh:

Okay, the first time I met you was at Grant Cardone’s 10X, the very first one.

Russell:

Okay.

Josh:

At the time, Grant had hired our team to do Instagram stuff. And this was super, super early on. I was dead broke. I couldn't afford to go to that conference if I wanted to. But because we were doing Instagram stuff, he gave us tickets.

And we saw you get offstage and we're like, "Dude, I bet you if we run right now we can meet Russell." So we run downstairs and sure enough, there you are, coming down. And I walk up to you and I'm like, "Russell, oh my gosh, huge fan." And you're like, "Hey. Thanks." And we're like, oh, okay. We're like, "Can we get a picture?" You're like, "Um, yeah, I guess." So I go and normally when you go and take a picture, you put your arm around him, and things like that. You just literally just stood there. And I was like, I guess we're not doing that.

And so there's this picture of me in…

Russell:

I gotta see this picture.

Josh:

I'll find it. I'll vox it to you. We're sitting there, I'm like... so, guys, Russell is-

Russell:

Is shockingly average.

Josh:

Is shockingly average, apparently. But back to the conversation, I remember what I was trying to ask. That was the very first time I met you. I was like, oh, man, I can be a millionaire, too.

Russell:

Before... I just want to... when I got started, this whole business, it was me and then I hired two of my buddies to come work for me, because they were the only people who cared what I was talking about.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And we're all working on this business, and I remember one of my buddies pulled me aside one day, and said, "The only difference between us two and you?" I said, "No." He said, "The only difference is you're in momentum, you're moving forward, so these opportunities keep coming to you because you're moving, moving, moving, moving." He's like, "We're sitting back here doing the thing, there's no opportunities coming to us because we're not moving."

I think what you need to understand is when you're moving in forward, people are like, "Oh, you're lucky you came up with ClickFunnels." I'm like, "Do you know how many funnels I launched before ClickFunnels?" Over a 150. This is not 150 ads that are “create funnel in ClickFunnels, oh, that's a funnel”. It was me coming up with an idea, hiring a designer, writing a sales letter, putting the product together, putting the pages in FrontPage, uploading them through FTP, getting a shopping cart, connecting them 150 times. It took us three months on average through each one. 150 times before we came up with ClickFunnels.

I was just moving forward, over and over and over and over and over while everyone else was sitting around waiting. Motion is the key.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

The opportunities come. This is what I'm talking about with being a good steward. God gave me an idea for ZipBrander. Do you remember ZipBrander? No one does. That was the first idea and I was like, oh my gosh, ZipBrander. I found a guy in Romania, I paid him 20 bucks to build the software. I created, I got a thing... a header designed and a headline and a thing and I launched it, and I made 400 bucks.

And then the next idea was this thing called Article Spider, do you remember the Article Spider?

Josh:

No.

Russell:

No one does. I paid someone a couple hundred bucks, I did that, I launched, I made 1700 bucks, and I was like, oh my gosh... Four Hundred Fortunes was number three. And then the next, and the next, and I could show you guys, I did this, I wrote them all... I went back in the Way Back Machine, I found all of them. Thing after thing after thing after thing. Idea after idea. The ideas pop in there, I execute on them, try and try, each one got better and better and better and better, and eventually, God's like, "All right, you're capable, you're a good steward, here's ClickFunnels, let's go with it."

If you were to give me that initially, I wouldn't know what to do. It's the momentum, it's the motion that makes you worthy of the calling. And if you're not in momentum, if you're not moving forward, you're never going to get the calling. Many are called, but few are chosen.

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]]> 2708 no The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 1 of 5 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-atlas-shrugged-interview-part-1-of-5 Welcome to the first episode in a special 5 part series. Over the course of these next 5 episodes, you’ll get to hear an interview between Russell Brunson and Josh Forti about the book “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand. But this interview is much more than just them talking about the book, they are actually discussing business, religion, and politics (a subject Russell doesn’t talk about often) as they pertain to the concepts in the book. In this first section, you’ll get to hear the introduction and the basis for how the entire conversation will flow. The first main topic of the book, and the main concept for this episode is greed. Is it bad? Can it be good? Are we born with it? Can we change? So listen in to part one of this unique interview and start reading “Atlas Shrugged” (just read it, the movies aren’t great), so you can be ready for part 2! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And right now, I have a treat for you. Over the next five episodes, I'm going to be taking you in behind the scenes of an interview that I did with Josh Forti about the book, Atlas Shrugged. And some of you guys have read Atlas Shrugged, some of you haven't. Some of you know the premise, some of you don't. And I want to preface this by saying I do not believe in everything taught in the Atlas Shrugged book. I love a lot of it. It talks about producers versus consumers, the looters and the takers versus those in society who are the creators. Right? And there's a lot of things I strongly align with. There's also things that I don't strongly align with. And so I love the book, one of my favorites I've ever read. And so that's the first thing. Number two is, as I finished the book, I remember Josh Forti, who's one of our funnel hackers, he wanted to do the interview with me and I was just like, "I don't have time for interviews." And we're getting closer and closer to the election, we talked on Facebook. We were posting some comments and I was like, "You know what? The interview that I would actually love to do would be about Atlas Shrugged, looking at the whole political thing as it's happening right now and the elections and everything, through the lens of Atlas Shrugged. That'd actually be fascinating for me," because I don't typically, as you know, talk about politics. Right? I do talk about religion, but I don't talk about politics. That's not something I typically go into, but I thought it'd be interesting to look at politics from the lens of Atlas Shrugged. And so in this interview series, it's a lot of fun. We talk about producers versus consumers. We talk about the left and the right. We talk about some political things. Now Josh, just so you know ahead of time, he's very pro-Trump, very much on that side of the discussions during this interview. And this interview, just so you know, took place before the elections. As of right now, I'm still not sure who won. You guys probably will know by the time you're listening to this, but as of when I'm recording this, we don't know, but he definitely leans on the Trump side. I don't really share much of my political beliefs, but you'll get kind of what I believe and why I believe it through the lens of Atlas Shrugged over this interview series. So I hope you enjoy it. It was a lot of fun to do, a lot of great feedback and comments. And again, we talk about stuff I don't typically talk about ever. So this may be a one-time shot to hear inside my mind when it comes to politics, religion, and all through the lens of Atlas Shrugged, the book. So with that said, I want to introduce you guys to the first part of this five-part interview series with me and Josh Forti, talking about Atlas Shrugged. Russell Brunson: Are we live? Josh Forti: We are live. Russell: What's up, everybody? Josh: Oh, my word, with the incredibly ... I don't know if long-waited. It hasn't really been that long. Two months ago. So much expected podcast with Mr. Russell Brunson, himself. How are you doing, dude? Russell: I'm doing amazing, man. Thanks for flying all the way to Boise just for this conversation. Josh: Yeah, absolutely. Dude, this is probably the conversation I'm looking forward to most, certainly in my life thus far, when it comes to business and philosophy and everything like that. Russell: No pressure at all. Josh: Well, it's funny. Your wife said, "Oh, thanks so much for coming out." I was like, "Yeah, it's certainly ... Yeah, because it's inconvenience to me to fly all the way out here." I will say, this is my first ever in-person interview like this. Russell: Oh, really? Josh: Yeah. Russell: We got the microphones set up. Josh: I know. We have- Russell: He’s a professional. I've never done this before. Josh: Literally, we have a soundboard down here. We've got Russell's mic. Can you guys hear us all right? By the way, guys, for all of you listening on audio, we apologize because we're going to answer some comments in the Facebook feed here because we've got everybody down here. By the way, you can see all the comments down here. Russell: What's up, everyone? Josh: All right, guys. If you are live, comment down below. Let us know where you're tuning in from. Let us know if you know Russell or if you know me or if you know both of us or what you're most looking forward to. And Russell, I'm going to be honest with you. We're just going to be super chill. Guys, we have a live audience back here. We've got Dave. Dave's over there. We've got Jake and Nick. Russell: What's up, Dave? Josh: Where'd Jake go? Russell: Jake's working. Josh: Oh, there we go. Jake's working late over there. Russell: Jake, by the way, designed these amazing shirts for this- Josh: Yeah, check us out. Russell: This is my Rearden Steel shirt. This is my Who Is John Galt shirt. Josh: Isn't this great? Okay, but I feel like the back- Russell: Yeah the back I’ll read what it says. It says, "I started my life with a single absolute, that the world was mine to shape and the image of my highest values never to be given to a lesser standard, no matter how long or hard the struggle." So do you guys like these shirts? These are custom made for tonight. And you guys may have a chance to get one of these, but not yet. No, not yet. Josh: Not yet. Russell: We'll let you know when the ability ... If you guys ... Josh: Oh, man. Oh, man. Russell: Anyway, it's going to be fun, but these are custom ... We literally made these today. We needed some sweet shirts…for the show. Josh: Okay, Will says he got your text. Did you send my text to everybody? Russell: Yeah. Josh: Russell on top of it. I sent out a ManyChat, Russell sent out a text. All right, guys. Let's lay some ground rules here. So the quick backstory behind this ... And it's going to be weird. You've got to look in the camera here. Quick backstory behind this is I make a post on Facebook about, what, probably three months ago now or so? Russell: Yeah. Josh: Two, three months ago. And I go, "We need some epic people to interview for the podcast. Who do you know? Tag them all down below." And shout out, Georgie. Georgie comments and goes… "I coached Russell. You should totally interview me." And I was like, "You've got to be pretty gutsy to tag Russell in your comment and tell him you coached him," but then Russell comments back- Russell: And George is an Olympic wrestler. He was on the Bulgarian Olympic team. He wrestled at Boise State with me. He's the man. So yeah. Josh: I commented back. I go, "You coached Russel?" And then Russell goes, "Well, yeah. He coached me. He's awesome. You should totally interview him." And so I said, "Yeah, Georgie, of course, you can come on. We'll do an interview, but Russell, I've got an open invitation to you if you want to come back on." And then you were like, "Sure, if we can talk about…" or no, you didn't say sure. You said, "Can we do it about Atlas Shrugged?" Russell: Yes. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Because I interview a lot about business stuff and- Josh: I'll pull the microphone just slightly. Russell: Yes. I don't do a lot of interviews because ... I feel like I've said, but I don't want to say, but I just finished literally probably the fattest book in the history of books called Atlas Shrugged. And I was geeking out on it and I wanted to talk about it. I didn't have a way or someone to geek out with, other than some of my friends here. And I was like, "If you want to talk about Atlas Shrugged, I'm in." And then you started freaking out. Josh: The funny thing was is I go something to the effect of, "You want to talk about the fall of capitalism because of a boycott, because of a brilliant person and why socialism sucks? Yes, absolutely. I would love to do that," to which you don't give me a yes or no answer. You reply back and go, "Ha-ha. Oh, man. That'd be fun." I'm like, "Talk about an open loop, man. Come on." So anyway, I immediately messaged Russel and I'm like, "You better not be joking because that would just be rude." He goes, "No, I'm totally in." Josh: So about two months go by. You had a bunch of stuff. You had some fun stuff during that time, hanging out with- Russell: Lot of stuff is happening. Josh: Tony Robbins? Russell: Yeah, Tony, man. And it's been chaos the last couple months, not going to lie. And as we got closer and closer to the election, I'm like, "This is an interesting conversation, post-election, but I think it's more interesting before election." And so was it two days ago, three days ago, you're like, "I will fly to Boise to record this." Josh: Yeah. Russell: "What day do you have open?" I'm like, "Only Wednesday night." And now we're here. Josh: Yeah. It was Friday afternoon. We were Voxing back and forth and you're like, "Dude, we've got to get this done before the election." I'm like, "Before the election? Oh, my word." I said, "All right. Sounds good. What time do you have available?" And that's when I was like, "You know what? I was going to ask you creatively, but I'm just going to ask you. How about I fly out to you?" And you're like, "Heck, yeah." Josh: So guys, that's the backstory. That's how we got here. And so this is an open conversation about Atlas Shrugged and kind of everything that encapsulates. I think we'll talk about some religion, some politics, kind of both sides of the aisle there and open it up. Russell: Fun. Josh: Anything else you want to add to that? Russell: The only other thing I would add is, because this book, by the way, if you haven't read it yet, is very polarizing. There are people on both sides of it. Russell: And I think both of us wanted to stress ahead of time that I do not believe in everything in this book. A lot of things in this book, I do believe in. And it's interesting. One of the things I want to dive deeper in in this conversation, I'm excited for and I told you not to do Voxer. I was like, what's fascinating to me is not, "This is what we should believe." What was fascinating to me as I was reading this book, and we'll get into the premise of the book for those who haven't read it, but the big thing is producers and going out there and creating stuff and doing things, which is what entrepreneurs do. Right? And it gets in the part of greed is good. You should be greedy because it's going to create all these amazing things, which then the byproduct's really good. Russell: And part of me is like, "Yes, yes, yes, yes," and then part of me, as a believing Christian, I hear this message I believe in and then I hear in my mind ringing Christ, talking faith, hope, charity, and love. And I feel like they're these two polar opposite things, which by the way, we dive into politics a little bit. There are two polar opposite sides, one that believes one, one believes the other. Russell: And I think that there's a happy medium and that's what I want to dive deep into just because I don't want anyone thinking, "Oh, Russell and Josh just believe this," or whatever. It's like, no, there's sides of this and I empathize on both sides. I want to talk about both of them because they're fascinating. Anyway, I've toyed writing a boy about this concept, these two things. Anyway, I think it should be fun to first time verbally ever talk about this stuff. So I'm excited for it. Josh: Yeah. And I would just echo that, as well. I think one of the things that often happens with me, with my ... So funny. You, who never, ever talks about politics and me who doesn't know how to get on Facebook without arguing about politics, colliding here, but is that a lot of times I get grouped into, "Oh, you like this reading. Therefore, you believe with everything." "You read this book," or, "You support this person," whether it's a political figure or a book or something like that. It's like, by saying that you enjoyed that or that you learned a lot from it, that all of a sudden you suddenly believe everything in it. And that is not the case at all. And I've gotten a lot of criticism from people that are like, "How could you possibly like Atlas Shrugged?" And I'm like, "Well, this is the conversation that we're going to have." Josh: So real quick, before we dive in, I'd be curious ... I want to do a poll real quick. How many of you guys have actually read the book? I'm curious to know. Hold up here. There's two different versions of it, but if you've read the book, just comment below the number one if you have read the book, the number two if you have not read the book. I think that will just kind of give us a poll. We've got 200, 300 people. Russell: And if you listened to the audiobook, we'll count that as reading, too, either way. Josh: Yeah. Not if you know the premise of the book, but actually have read the book and have a deep understanding of it, or not deep understanding. But have like… Russell: Understand the stories them in. Josh: Yeah, things like that, because then it'll be interesting. Russell: One is read. Josh: One is read, two is not read. Oh, more ones than I thought was going to. Russell: Yeah. Me too. Josh: Russell's book is so underrated. Russell: We're 50/50. Josh: Ooh, yeah. I think we should take a poll at the end; what's better, Atlas Shrugged or Dotcom Secrets? That's the real question we should be asking right now. Russell: That would be good, that would be good. Josh: Okay. So we have a lot of people that have not read it, so we'll have to go into the premise of that. Okay. Russell: Are you ready to get started? Josh: Yeah. I'm ready to rock and roll with it. Russell: Oh I’m ready. Josh: Okay. Guys, we want to lay a couple ground rules. Okay? Because I don't know what it's like to be Russell, Russell doesn't know what it's like to be me, but I think we both have a mutual understanding that we could very easily be taken out of context here. Josh: I think the goal, and then I want you to kind of expand upon this, is we're not trying to take a side here. We're trying to have an open discussion about it. This could very easily turn into something that's like, "Why did you vote for Trump? Why Biden sucks, why Biden's great, why Trump sucks," something like that or certain religion. We're not trying to convince you of anything, really. In fact, this is honestly more of a conversation for us. And we're like, "We think it'd be cool to stream it out to a bunch of people because there's a reason for me to fly out here and do that," but the purpose of this is to have an open discussion about the book, the premise of the book, an understanding of it, and then honestly we're probably going to be in our own little world over here. Josh: And we want you guys to interact and comment and engage and push your questions. And we'll go back through it, obviously, but the purpose of this is not to try to convince anybody of anything. It's simple to, at least from my perspective, shed a new perspective and give the perspective of somebody who, for those of you that don't know who Russell is, the founder of a ... ClickFunnels is a billion-dollar company, SaaS company. You have 400 employees? Russell: Yeah. Josh: 400 employees. So from that perspective and from my perspective, to open your eyes to a new perspective of what we like, what we don't like and, like I said, more of a conversation for us. Russell: Yeah. I think that's good. And I think a big thing that we will talk about ... Our goal is not to convince you of anything. In fact, I think I'm still convincing myself of both sides. I believe both these two things that seem contradictory, but I think there's a middle ground and I'm excited to explore it. So it'll be fun. Josh: Cool. So I think we got to- Russell: Talk about the premise of the book? Josh: Yeah, we've got to talk about the premise of the book. Russell: I might have a little mini statue behind me that might help. Can I grab that? Josh: Ooh, yeah. Russell: Okay. So folks that have not read Atlas Shrugged, I didn't know what the premise was at first, but this is the story of Atlas. Some of you guys know Atlas was cursed to have to carry the entire weight of the universe, entire weight of the world upon his shoulders for forever. Right? And so this is where the premise of the book ... All of us, people who are listening to this might guess that you are a producer. Right? Otherwise, you probably wouldn't be listening to me or to Josh. I attract, I teach, I coach, I help producers, entrepreneurs, people who are trying to change the world. Right? Russell: I'm curious, how many of you guys have ever felt this pressure. Right? When you feel like you literally have the entire weight of the world upon your shoulders. And if you haven't, it's time to become a producer. That's first off. Second off, I can empathize, though. There's so many times, you can ask Dave or any guys on my team, there's days I come in, I was like, "I feel like I'm going to crack." There is so much weight to carry this around. And I'm guessing most of you guys have felt that. It could be with your family, could be in work, could be business, whatever, but you've felt the weight of the world. Right? Russell: So this is what Atlas had to hold. Right? And so the premise of the book, Atlas Shrugged, is what would happen if the producers, the people that are carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders, what happens if they were to go on strike and they were to shrug their shoulders and be like, "Meh." In fact, should I read your tile you gave me here? Josh: Yeah. Russell: So Josh, as a gift today, gave me some amazing tiles. This is a quote, actually, from the book, Atlas Shrugged, talking about this. It says, "If you saw Atlas, the giant holds the world on his shoulders. If you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling, but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater of his efforts, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders, what would you tell him to do? Just shrug." That's things like, what happens to society when us, the producers, when we no longer want to carry the weight of the world? We shrug and we walk away from it. Russell: And the book is a story about that. What happens when these producers start disappearing and they start leaving, they start going on strike? You see society, what happens when the producers disappear. Josh: Yeah. It's interesting because there is no one named Atlas Shrugged in the book and there's nobody named Ayn Rand in the book. And so there's concepts that she's writing about outside of that and it's this ... How do you summarize a 1200-page book? Basically, in the book, there is a main character by the name of Dagny. Russell: Oh. Yes. Josh: Oh. Russell: I was going to say John Galt, but you're right. Yes, Dagny’s the main character. Josh: Sorry. For the first two thirds of the book, the main character is a woman by the name of Dagny. And basically, she is one of the producers of society. And she's not the head boss of the railroad, but she's basically the person that runs this railroad company. And it is written, what, 1950 is when this was- Russell: Yeah. Josh: So 1950, and it's basically this forecast into the future of a government that is basically forcing super, super strict restrictions onto private businesses and making them do things, kind of like today in America, but super, super government overreach in a lot of ways. And so Dagny is trying to keep the world afloat, more or less, by getting the railroads done on time and getting orders shipped. Josh: And I'm super oversimplifying, but around her, all the people that she works with that owned all these other companies that she would buy copper from or she would buy steel from or buy the railroad track from or buy the coal from, all of a sudden all these head people ... Imagine people like Russell, all his friends just start disappearing. Imagine Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and Russell all just started disappearing. Right? That's what's happening all around her and she doesn't understand what's happening to them because just, one day, it's up and it's gone. Josh: And so the premise of the first two thirds of the book is showing this story of this producer who is living in this world of super government tyranny, overreach that's super, super controlling and she's watching all of her friends disappear and she doesn't know why. Would you say that's a pretty good explanation of it so far? Russell: Yeah. And every time they disappear, they leave behind a note or something that says, "Who is John Galt?" That's this theme throughout the book, is who is John Galt? Who is this John Galt person that makes all the producers disappear? Josh: And Dagny has no idea who John Galt is. Right? She doesn't even know, actually, for awhile that John Galt's actually even a real person. And so once she does find out that John Galt is probably a real person, John Galt becomes her sworn enemy because she doesn't know who he is or what he's doing. All she knows and all she associates with is that John Galt is taking away all these producers of society and is making her life harder because ... Imagine you being an entrepreneur and all of your entrepreneur friends that you buy stuff from and that you send all your people to, your referrals and everything, you buy all your supplies from, imagine they're all just disappearing and you think it's because of this one guy who's taking them all away and you don't know what's happening to them. Obviously, they'd become your sworn enemy. Josh: So for the first two thirds-ish of the book, that's kind of this premise of they're painting this really, really vivid story of the ... what are they called, the great thinkers of society? Yeah, the great minds of society, basically disappearing. And Dagny and ... there's a guy by the name of Hank Rearden, I think. Russell: Yeah, Rearden Steel. Josh: Rearden Steel, yeah. So Dagny and Hank Rearden are the two major ones left right before the big plot twist happens and you're like, "Oh," and then you get introduced to John Galt. I'm going to let you explain John Galt now. Russell: Oh, man. Okay. So that's the first two thirds of the book. By the way, there's movies. Don't watch them. They'll ruin the book. The movies were really bad. Josh: Yeah. Read the book. Russell: So two thirds into the book, she starts trying to figure out this mystery of who's John Galt. She ends up finding him and turns out that he has been going around and getting all these producers to go on strike, convinces them to, "Look, it's not worth fighting for anymore. All your incentives are gone. Let's leave. Let's go on strike," and they leave. And John Galt's trying to get her to leave and she's like, "I can't. I have to do everything in my power." The last third of the book is her leaving John Galt's presence and going back and trying to figure out how to do this thing as she's watching just government regulations getting harder, and harder, and harder, and harder to the point where everyone just has to disappear. Russell: But one of the things John Galt and the people say, "When the lights of New York go out, then we'll come back and we'll rebuild society from the ground up, after the looters and the people are gone." Josh: And that's basically how the books ends is lights of New York go out and then- Russell: For such a long book, all of a sudden it just ends and you're like, "Oh, I need one more chapter. Come on. Just end it." Josh: And we're never going to get it. Ah. Russell: Well, maybe I'll write it. Josh: Yeah. So that's the storyline of the book, but what I think we really both want to focus here is kind of the premises and the overarching ideas that the book presents, and capitalism versus socialism, and I think we'll talk religion and politics and kind of everything that’s in that, but I kind of want to, if it's all right with you, I kind of want to turn the conversation more towards us now and just kind of start geeking out just about that. Josh: So guys, we'll obviously go back and ... By the way, we want all your comments if you're ... Actually, comment below right now. Where are you watching? Are you watching it on YouTube? Are you watching it on Think Different Theory page or are you watching it on Russell's page? Comment down below because we went to multiple different locations. So we have a bunch of different people tuning in for everything. So just comment down below. Leave your comments, leave your questions, smash the like button, love button, share this out, and we're going to be here. Josh: All right, Russell. What's up? Russell: Hey, man. Josh: All right. Dude, I've been wanting to, and I hate this terminology, but just pick somebody's brain like yours for the longest time. And this book, oh, my gosh. So what do you like about the book? What was your favorite thing? Russell: Yeah. Well, let me tell the backstory. So 2008 is when the market crashed last time, right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I didn't realize that, that year, over 500,000 copies were sold organically by people talking to me about it, talking about, "Everything's she's prophesying is happening right now." And so, back then, I remember all my entrepreneur friends, like, "You have to read this book." It was the word-of-mouth buzz that sold 500,000 copies of a book has been ... The author died, whatever, 30 years earlier. There's not active marketing out there. It's crazy. And everyone's talking about it, like, "What's happening in this book is happening in 2008." And it was just this prophecy that was being fulfilled. Russell: And so everyone in 2008 was telling me to read this book. I remember buying it and I was like, "This is a really, really big book." And it took me awhile to get into it and I could never get into it. I read the first, I don't know, first 200 or 300 pages four or five times. And then, finally, this summer, one of my very first trips where I didn't bring a laptop since my marriage. So my wife is very proud of me. Josh: Dang. Russell: And so as I was leaving the office, I grabbed this book. And I picked it up and I was like, "I have no computer, but I've got this." And usually, I bring 20 books just because I know I'm going to read. I just brought one and I was like, "I'm going to do this. I'm going to be forced. I'm on a lake for a week and a half with my kids and all I can do is read this book." So I brought it, got the audiobook, as well. It's funny, I do the same. I listen to the audiobook and I read along so I can listen to it way faster, that way. And I started going through it. It took me a little while. She does such a good job of character development at the very beginning, it took awhile to get into it. Josh: Yeah, for sure. Russell: And then the story hits and then you're just like ... And you couldn't- Josh: It's like thing, after thing, after thing. It's so quick. Russell: Oh, yeah. And it got crazy. So for me, it was interesting because I think, if I would've listened to it 10 years ago or read it 10 years ago, I had never experienced any of the things they talk about in this book. Right? Josh: Now you don't have to worry about it. Yeah. Russell: Even better. I never experienced government regulations and things like that or just those kind of things. And as ClickFunnels has grown from me and Todd to our first member, to our first thousand, 10,000, 100,000 members, 400 ... I don't know how many employees, a lot, 400 plus employees. As it's grown, it's been crazy because you would think all we'd be focusing on here inside ClickFunnels is the next feature in the app, next thing. Russell: And there's the year where we had to spend an entire year just refactoring the software for GDPR compliance. We have regulations that come in on taxes and this. It's constant where most of the battles we fight at ClickFunnels right now is not about, how do we make this thing better for the customer? It's, how do we protect our customers from the government? It's crazy. And just so many regulations and things. Russell: And so I have been feeling this pressure. Some of you guys may have seen my interview I did with Tony Robbins ... not interview, but Tony Robbins did an intervention with me last year in Fiji. Josh: Yeah. That was fascinating, by the way. Russell: I'm so glad we captured that. It was a really cool moment in my life, but if you listen in there, I talked about ... He's like, "Well, what do you want to do?" And I was like, "I don't know, but the pressure ... I love the same, so I love everything I'm doing. I love the people we're serving, but there's these other pressures that aren't the game, that aren't the people, that they just get so heavy sometimes where it makes me want to just walk away." And again, as I'm reading this book- Josh: You hadn't read the book at the time. Russell: I hadn't read it yet. Josh: Yeah, okay. Russell: As I'm reading this, it's like- Josh: Did you know anything about the- Russell: I did not know the premise, no. Josh: You knew nothing. Okay, okay, okay. Russell: I didn't know what Atlas Shrugged meant. I was just like, "Oh, it's Atlas ..." I didn't know ... And it was like, when I read this title, like, "What would you tell Atlas if this was happening? Just shrug." And I was like, "Oh, that's why they called it Atlas Shrugged." And then I remember vividly feeling the pressure of this calling and how heavy it is. Russell: And there's so many times I wish, like, "Okay, sometimes it'd be so nice to walk away or to shrug or whatever." And so I instantly, with Dagny's character, I was like ... I feel that with Hank Rearden. I had so much empathy and understood their characters because I feel that so many times. Hank Rearden just wanted to invent his steel and put it out. That's all he cared about, right? For me, funnels are my art. I can't draw, but funnels, that's my art and entrepreneurship. That's my art. And so I just want to do my art. That's it. He just wanted to create steel. And it's all these other things and it's just like, "I just want to do my steel. I just want to do my art. Why do I have to deal with all this other stuff?" Russell: And so as I'm reading this, I just had so much empathy for the characters because I felt like I was the characters, even though it was weird because it's railroads and stuff like that and I'm internet, but I think that's why I really got into it. And then I got just curious, what happens? How does this story end? Be I'm in the middle of it. And depending who's listening, you may or may not have felt some of these pressures. As you grow, you feel them. Russell: It's interesting. As ClickFunnels has grown, we've talked about the pressure that I feel today would've crushed me five years ago. Right? And so you have to go through this thing where you build capacity to handle the next set of pressure, and build capacity, and build capacity. And nowadays, stuff happens daily that's just like, "Man, that would've destroyed me five years ago." Russell: And so I think, if you guys haven't felt that, as you grow, as you continue to try to get your message out and try to grow your businesses, whatever, the bigger you get, the more that pressure comes. Josh: Do you think…with that ... And I want to continue that because it's such a good conversation, but with the pressure, the things that are happening now daily that would've wrecked you five years ago or three years ago, whatever it was, do you think it's good, though, that they would've? Is it good that, at the capacity that you understood, that you took those things seriously then or would it have been better for you to just be in this mindset? I know it's not possible, but looking back, if you could snap your fingers and back then would've had the mental capacity to just ignore all those things and go up, would that've been a good thing? Or the fact that you went through all those things, does that help? Russell: The going through it is what makes you worthy of the things, right? Josh: Being able to… Russell: It makes you ready for it. Otherwise, just like lifting weights, if you try to squat 800 pounds, that's what it feels like. Right? Your legs buckle and you die, but because you went through that thing, you're able to have the capacity to hold the weight. Josh: Okay. Russell: Yeah. So anyways, the thing for me that was the big thing is reading this. And so I was just fascinated because I was like, "This is kind of my story. How does it end?" Josh: How long did it take you to get through it? Russell: I'd say about two months. I got a lot of it done on the boat, and then I got into biking for a little while, so I was listening to it while I was biking. Josh: That's right, I remember that. Russell: I just kept biking and biking, like, "One more chapter, one more chapter." I'm in really good shape because of it. It's funny because one of the premises ... And they don't say greed is good, but there's a chapter, I think it's called Greed. And I remember, if you guys have ever seen Wall Street, Gordon Gekko talks about, "Greed is good," and I never understood that premise. Right? In the book, they start talking about that, how greed is what drives this whole thing. Is it called Greed? Josh: I'm trying to find it. Russell: Utopia of Greed, yeah. Josh: And then Anti-Greed. So Utopia of Greed and then Anti-Greed. Russell: So what's interesting is ... because all of us are taught that greed is bad, right? That's just, like, you shouldn't be greedy. That's, I think, a principle that's instilled in most of us, but then I think about, for me, when I started this business, why did I start this business? I wanted to make money. That's greed, right? And you think about any of us, we go through a phase in all of our lives that greed is the driving factor. Right? When I wanted to become a good wrestler, I wanted to become a good wrestler. It was greedy. I went and got coaches and spent all my time and it was a very selfish time in my life. Not that it's bad, but it's a very greedy time. Right? Kids, when they're first born ... I love my kids. They are so ... not in a bad way, but they're greedy. It's about them. Right? Josh: Right. Russell: And it's this growth phase where growth ... You have to be greedy. You're in the growth phase. Right? When you're trying to learn, you're sucking things and you're learning and you're not contributing it. You're just learning, you're growing. And it was interesting because, as I'm going through this, I'm like, the greed is what got me into business. Right? And it's what got these things started and then the byproduct of that is jobs were created and things ... All the byproduct of it is ... I think, in the book, how it justifies it, Hank Rearden going after ... he wanted to build his steel and make a bunch of money, created tens of thousands of jobs and changed the world and changes all these things. Russell: And so the premise of the book is that greed is this driving force that gets you moving. And it is. If you think about any aspect of your life, from sports to education, to business, to everything, it starts with greed. Now, we'll go deeper into this. I don't want everyone to think that I'm just into this for the greed, because there's a transition point. We'll talk about it in a minute, but there's a transition point from growth to contribution that happens, but that's in the book where it starts talking about that. Russell: And I remember I was on the greenbelt here in Boise, riding my bike with James P. Friel, listening to that chapter. And I was trying to think, "Is this true? Did I get started because of greed?" And it's like, yeah, I didn't start a business because I wanted to change the world. Eventually, that happened, but it wasn't like it was ... Greed was the driving force that moved me forward. I think it moves all of us forward such a long time. And as I was listening as I'm riding my bike, I'm like, "Yes, I understand this," and the other half of me was like ... I started thinking about my spiritual upbringing. Right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: I'm very Christian. I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints and I started thinking about Christ and his teachings, which are, honestly, the opposite of that. Right? It's like- Josh: Really the polar opposite. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Which it's funny, whenever you say that, people are like, "You know, Jesus was a socialist." I hear that a lot. I'm like, "You need to read the Bible." Anyway, but I think a lot- Russell: But he definitely is way more liberal leaning, 100%. Josh: Right, right. And I think that that's where Republicans, conservative, traditionally on that side of the aisle, fiscally Republicans get into trouble is where we're like, "Yeah, we're Christians, but we also want to get rich," and they never talk about all this other ... People like to use Christianity, I feel like, when it's convenient. Russell: We call it cafeteria Christians. Josh: Right. Russell: They pick and choose the things off the menu they want. Josh: Right. And then they go through and do it. So I definitely want to dive further into that, but continue that. Russell: Yeah. So that started this question in my head, though, of just, so is greed bad then or is it good or where does it fit in the whole grand scheme of things? Because it is something that's instilled in all of us from birth. Right? When you're born, you're a baby, if you didn't have greed, you would just die. Right? It's me. I need food, I need love, I need shelter. It makes you cry, which creates people coming to you. Greed is a driving force that's instilled in humans from birth, right? When we come here, greed is what helps us survive the first part of our life. Russell: And first, I was having this conundrum. I'm just like, "God, is this book evil? I don't know what to do with myself." Right? But all good things in my life that happened happened initially because the seed of greed started me on motion, started me in momentum. And then I started thinking, if you've read the Expert Secrets book, which- Josh: If you haven't, come on. Russell: If you haven't, you must hate money. Come on. No, but in the beginning of Expert Secrets book, I talk about this concept, as well, where as an expert, there's two phases to go through. The first is a growth phase. Right? I want to be an expert in whatever. You go through and you're a consumer, consuming everything. And that's greed, right? And then there's this transition point where, eventually, you keep trying to grow, grow, grow, grow, trying to learn everything, going there. I'm listening to all the podcasts, I'm reading all the books, I'm growing, growing, growing. And eventually, there's this point. I remember feeling it in multiple parts of my life. In wrestling, I felt it. In business, I felt it where you can't continue ... The ability to grow through consumption slows to almost a halt where you can't continue to grow. Right? Russell: I've shared this story. I think I shared it in the book with wrestling. I was a really good wrestler. I was a high school state champ. I took second place in the nation. I was an All-American. And my senior year, I got invited to go to a wrestling camp. My coach was like, "Hey, do you want to come coach wrestling this summer?" And I was like, "Why would I do that? What's in it for me?" Josh: Before you go on here, I want to ask you something. So you're riding your bike, wrestling with this whole greed thing. Is this the first time that you've thought about greed in this way? Russell: 100%. Josh: And this is, what, six months ago? Russell: Not even that. Maybe four months ago. Josh: So you've built most of what ClickFunnels is today and now this is the first time you're really sitting down and wrestling with this idea of greed and is it bad, is it good, what's the balance there and stuff like that? Russell: Yeah. Josh: That's fascinating. Russell: Yeah. It never crossed my mind, really. And then it became this thing where it bothered me because I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. I don't want to be a greedy person." You know what I mean? Josh: Right. Russell: I'm like, "I don't feel like I am," but I was stuck. I couldn't figure that out. Right? And so I'll rewind to the wrestling story because I think it will set it up. Josh: Yep. Russell: But my senior year, again, I'd been growing as a wrestler. I was going to camps. I was getting coaching. I was greedy. I was sucking up everyone's brainpower I could and I became a really good wrestler because of it. And then my coach asked me to go coach a wrestling camp. So I say yes, go to the wrestling camp, and I remember he's like, "Okay, I need you to teach ..." My best move… I'm really good at tilts. So for all the wrestlers out there, I'm really good at cheap tilts. And he's like, "Teach these kids how to do a cheap tilt." Russell: And I was like, "Okay." So I walk out, there are like 30 kids. I'm like, "Yeah, you do this. You just do it like that." And they all look at me and they go try and they try to do a cheap tilt and they all just fall apart. I'm like, "Are you guys dumb? This is not that hard." I'm like, "Come back in, come back in. No, you did it all wrong. This is how you do it." I show them again, like, "Go do it." They go back out, nobody can do it. Russell: And then, all of a sudden, I'm like, "Gosh, they're missing something. What is it?" So I have them come back in and I start breaking down, "Hey, for the move to work, your hips have to be here, your legs have to be here." I start walking through all the things. And as I'm doing that, I start realizing, "Oh, the season why I'm able to do this is because of this," and I started realizing what I was doing as I was teaching people. And as I taught it to people, then the kids started doing it and they got better and better. And all of a sudden, I started realizing, "Oh, my gosh. This move works because of this." Russell: And now that I was aware of the situation, now I was able to make these tweaks and stuff on my own. And I realized that, but coaching the kids, that was the next-level growth. It was a shift from selfish greed growth to contribution. So that's why I started coaching camps every year and that's why I went from slowing down my progression to, all of a sudden, it sped back up again by shifting from growth to contribution. Okay? Russell: And so I think the same thing happens in business, right? I got in business because that seed of greed is in us. It gets us moving, gets us in the momentum. And some people never get out of that. Some people live their entire lives chasing greed and they die and it's a tragedy, but I think for most people, there's this transition point. And I don't know where it happens. It happens different spots for everyone where, all of a sudden, you realize ... you make the money, you started the business, and you realizing how unfulfilling that is. You're tapping out. You're like, "I'm not growing anymore. I thought I wanted money, but I don't. I want growth. That's what we're here on this planet for, is to grow as humans. Right? Russell: You don't get that and, all of a sudden, you realize money's not fulfilling and then you start seeing the other people you're contributing to and you're helping. Then it shifts to ... We hear people talk about, "This is about impact, about growth, it's about helping other people," and that's that transition. That's charity, love. That's pure love of Christ. It's that transition, but greed is the seed that gets us moving, right? And so there's this handoff. It doesn't happen all the time. And are you guys cool if I share scripture stuff? Because- Josh: 100%. Russell: -all this stuff is scriptural. It's not just- Josh: They don't get to decide, Russell. I get to decide. It's my podcast. You can talk about whatever. Russell: If you hate scripture, just close your ears and go, "Blah, blah, blah." So I wrote down some scripture. This is a scripture because it illustrates this point. I think it's so good. Josh: Also, I just want to say, Russell Voxed me and he said that this is the first episode of a podcast that he's ever prepared for. When you said that, I'm like, "Ha! I was the first for something for Russell. Let's go." Russell: I want to be ready. Okay. So this is a scripture. It says, "For the natural man is an enemy to God and has been from the fall of Adam and will be forever and ever." I'm going to stop right there. Okay. So natural man is an enemy to God. Why is that? We're born. We have this greed inside of us, so the natural human is the enemy of God because we're chasing after greed. Right? But God gives us that seed because it creates momentum. It creates motion. It creates us doing something. Right? Russell: And then it says in here, it says, "For the natural man is an enemy to God and has been from the fall of Adam, will be forever and ever," and then this is the transition point, "unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit." So he's greedy forever, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit and puteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ, the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father." Russell: So growth is the seed. It's the natural man. It's the thing we have that's ... It's good, right? God gives it to us because it gets us to do stuff, gets us to learn, gets us to not die in our crib because we need love and attention and to get fed. Right? So then it gets us off our butts, off the couches, us being producers that gets us moving. And if we're not careful, though, the natural man will destroy us. You see so many people who made tons of money and they destroyed themselves in their lives because they don't do that second thing, which is, "Unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit." Russell: That's the thing saying this is not about money, this is about the impact. Look at the people you're changing. And it shifts, right? If you make that shift, all of a sudden, now this thing you’re creating is not about greed, it's like, "Oh, my gosh ..." I remember, for ClickFunnels, when I had that transition was when I started seeing Brandon and Kaelin Poulin. I started seeing the ripple effect of their business. And I can name hundreds of people, person, after person, after person. Russell: I was like, "This isn't about money. This is about the ripple effect of what we've created in each person's life." Now, that's charity. That's love. Now the mission isn't about money. We don't care about the money. We keep score with money, but that's the mission, is the people's lives and the impact. And I think that's that transition where greed is the thing that gets us moving, but if we don't have that ... Russell: I think that's happened in the book. We talked about it. You said this at my house earlier, like, "A lot of people in the book seem like they have a miserable life." And it's like, yeah, because they never yielded to the spirit. They never made that shift. It was all greed to the point where they let everything collapse as opposed to the charity side of things. Josh: Yeah. So one of the things about the book ... And I'm sitting on the plane on the way over here and I'm like, "How do I articulate this?" Because that's always the hardest thing. You have this idea in your head and you're like, "How do I get it out and explain it in a way that somebody else can be like, 'Yes, I understand that?'" I'm going to go kind of political here for a second. I'm going to bring it back, too, specifically to the book. So I am pretty vocally a conservative. Right? I'm a blatant Trump supporter, very much so conservative when it comes to everything fiscal, but I call myself a libertarian because I actually think that I lean left on a lot of social issues. I think the government should stay out of gay marriage. Right? There's a lot of things that I lean left on, but when it comes to money and finances and things like that, I lean to the right. Josh: But the reason I lean to the right and I typically go with the right is because I like what the left is trying to do in concept. It's like, okay, there's a bunch of people that are really truly in need. I agree. We need to help them. The problem is is that the way they go about doing it, I so radically disagree with it. It's against everything that I stand for. Right? I'm like, it's not that I disagree with what you want to do, it's I disagree with how you want to do it. Josh: What's interesting is I feel like, in this book, I feel like it's the opposite. I actually don't agree with why they're doing it. This concept of ... I mean, Hank Rearden says it over and over again, "Everything that I do is for profit." That is it. Even to his friends. He took a bullet for John Galt, right? He gets shot. And John Galt thanks him for it. He goes, "You know I only did it because it's what I wanted to do, right?" Literally saves a guy's life. Josh: So it's all about what he wants and only for him and that's it. And it's profit and money and dollars. It's not about everything that he helps. And I'm like, I disagree with that premise, but what that leads to, I actually do like. And I feel like it's flipped compared to the world I'm living in now. Half the stuff that the Democrats ... I hate to… oh I want to go into politics so bad… Russell: Left and right. Josh: Yeah, the left. Guys, we're going to say left and right. Generalized here, right? Oh, my god, but generally speaking. And so when it comes to the whole greed issue, I'm like ... It's interesting to hear your perspective because I never, even throughout the book, I'm like, "Greed is a bad thing." And hearing your perspective, I'm like, okay, I understand what you're saying, but is it greed or is there some other driving ... If I were to ask you a year ago ... When were you in the heart of ClickFunnels, like a year and a half ago, two years? There was a time of your life when all you ... I know all you do is ClickFunnels, but when- Russell: It's the last six years of my life. Josh: But you know what I mean? Wasn't there a year or two period in there, in the growth phase, where 100% of everything you do was just ClickFunnels, ClickFunnels, ClickFunnels. It felt like you were going nonstop. It feels like you're a little bit more balanced now. Maybe not, but from the outside perspective looking in, it does. Anyway, during that time of growing ClickFunnels, before you read that, would you have described yourself as greedy? Russell: No. Josh: What would you have described yourself as? What's the word? Russell: I don't know. That's a good question. I was always trying to create stuff. It's art for me, right? So it's like I was trying to create stuff. I think, initially, I was creating for myself as opposed to, "Oh, my gosh. I create this for myself, but look what happens to the people." Josh: What point was that shift for you, though? Russell: You can see it in my marketing, by the way. And by the way, for those who are greedy capitalists who only care about money, it actually is a better marketing way, too. My marketing went from- Josh: For all you greedy capitalists out there, switch to being a contributor, you’ll make more money. Russell: Well, think about it. My marketing is always like, "Here's Russell. Here's how much money my funnel made. Here's how much ..." It was me talking about me all the time. And then I realized, "Who cares about me? I don't care about me. Let me show you what this person ... Let me show you all the results of the people we're serving, what's happening there," which first off, is better marketing and, second off, it's that transition where I was literally like, "Everything I've accomplished is stupid. What they're doing, that's the real ... What we're doing, that's the thing that's amazing." Right? That's the spiritual side of it. That's the thing where it's like, the thing that got you into motion now is doing good in the world. And when you start seeing that, it's like, oh, my gosh. That's so much more fulfilling and so much more exciting. Russell: And people ask me, "The last six years, why'd you keep getting up? Do you need more money?" I'm like, "No, that's not what keeps me up," but I can tell you 100 stories of people who ... literally the ripple effect of how many lives they've changed because I did my thing. Right? We made a documentary of the Two Comma Club and Jamie Cross has this whole part there where she's bawling her eyes out and she said, "Where would my family be if Russell wouldn't have fulfilled his God-given calling?" And every time I see that, I start bawling, myself. That's why, eventually, you start doing it. Right? Josh: But when did that shift happen? Russell: I don't know. It wasn't a day that it happened. The energy of it shifted. Right? I don't know. It gradually kind of happened. Josh: What's that? Dave: Tell them about your dad. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Dave, come on in. Dave's here. Dave, take the mic. Here. Dave: Yeah. No, honestly, I think… this has been one of those things. It's been fun for me to watch Russell from the sidelines here. I think, honestly, it was your dad's 60th birthday. Josh: Which was how long ago? Dave: I don't even know. Russell: Three, four years ago probably. Dave: But it was the reflection on that and it was the difference from having your hand raised versus ... because I remember you… Russell: Yeah, you want me to tell that story? Dave: Russell is a much better storyteller. I'll seed the thought, but I'll let him finish. Russell: All right. Josh: Oh, thank you Dave. Russell: Thank you. Interesting. Josh: Guys, we have a live audience here. Russell: So yeah, my dad turned 60 and we have our little family reunion every year we do. And so it was during his birthday. And I remember my mom gave him $60, six $10 bills. And so she gave them to him one at a time and said, "Okay, the first decade was one to 10. Tell us something you remember about that." He's like, "I don't remember anything back then." The second one, he's like, "10 to 20, that's when I was a wrestler. It was so much fun for me." And then, 20 to 30, he was like, "Okay, that's when I was starting my business, trying to figure things out and trying to get our family stable." 30 to 40, "That's when my kids were wrestling and I was coaching them." And then 50 to 60, he kind of went through everything. Russell: And then, after it was done, I asked him, I said, "Well, Dad, of all the decades, what one was the best for you?" Thinking, in my world, the best was going to be when he was a wrestler because I was like, for me, the greatest part of my life was when I was wrestling. And my dad said, "The greatest decade was when I got to coach you." I forgot that story until Dave said that, but I remember coming back and telling Dave and other people that I always thought the best part was being the all star. For my dad, the best part was coaching other people and seeing their hand raised. Josh: That was a good interjection there, Dave. Huh. Russell: …which was really cool. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 18 Nov 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Atlas Shrugged Interview - Part 1 of 5 full 363 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Welcome to the first episode in a special 5 part series. Over the course of these next 5 episodes, you’ll get to hear an interview between Russell Brunson and Josh Forti about the book “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand. But this interview is much... Welcome to the first episode in a special 5 part series. Over the course of these next 5 episodes, you’ll get to hear an interview between Russell Brunson and Josh Forti about the book “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand. But this interview is much more than just them talking about the book, they are actually discussing business, religion, and politics (a subject Russell doesn’t talk about often) as they pertain to the concepts in the book. In this first section, you’ll get to hear the introduction and the basis for how the entire conversation will flow. The first main topic of the book, and the main concept for this episode is greed. Is it bad? Can it be good? Are we born with it? Can we change? So listen in to part one of this unique interview and start reading “Atlas Shrugged” (just read it, the movies aren’t great), so you can be ready for part 2! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And right now, I have a treat for you. Over the next five episodes, I'm going to be taking you in behind the scenes of an interview that I did with Josh Forti about the book, Atlas Shrugged. And some of you guys have read Atlas Shrugged, some of you haven't. Some of you know the premise, some of you don't. And I want to preface this by saying I do not believe in everything taught in the Atlas Shrugged book. I love a lot of it. It talks about producers versus consumers, the looters and the takers versus those in society who are the creators. Right? And there's a lot of things I strongly align with. There's also things that I don't strongly align with. And so I love the book, one of my favorites I've ever read. And so that's the first thing. Number two is, as I finished the book, I remember Josh Forti, who's one of our funnel hackers, he wanted to do the interview with me and I was just like, "I don't have time for interviews." And we're getting closer and closer to the election, we talked on Facebook. We were posting some comments and I was like, "You know what? The interview that I would actually love to do would be about Atlas Shrugged, looking at the whole political thing as it's happening right now and the elections and everything, through the lens of Atlas Shrugged. That'd actually be fascinating for me," because I don't typically, as you know, talk about politics. Right? I do talk about religion, but I don't talk about politics. That's not something I typically go into, but I thought it'd be interesting to look at politics from the lens of Atlas Shrugged. And so in this interview series, it's a lot of fun. We talk about producers versus consumers. We talk about the left and the right. We talk about some political things. Now Josh, just so you know ahead of time, he's very pro-Trump, very much on that side of the discussions during this interview. And this interview, just so you know, took place before the elections. As of right now, I'm still not sure who won. You guys probably will know by the time you're listening to this, but as of when I'm recording this, we don't know, but he definitely leans on the Trump side. I don't really share much of my political beliefs, but you'll get kind of what I believe and why I believe it through the lens of Atlas Shrugged over this interview series. So I hope you enjoy it. It was a lot of fun to do, a lot of great feedback and comments. And again, we talk about stuff I don't typically talk about ever. So this may be a one-time shot to hear inside my mind when it comes to politics, religion, and all through the lens of Atlas Shrugged, the book. So with that said, I want to introduce you guys to the first part of this five-part interview series with me and Josh Forti, talking about Atlas Shrugged. Russell Brunson: Are we live? Josh Forti: We are live. Russell: What's up, everybody? Josh: Oh, my word, with the incredibly ... I don't know if long-waited. It hasn't really been that long. Two months ago. So much expected podcast with Mr. Russell Brunson, himself. How are you doing, dude? Russell: I'm doing amazing, man. Thanks for flying all the way to Boise just for this conversation. Josh: Yeah, absolutely. Dude, this is probably the conversation I'm looking forward to most, certainly in my life thus far, when it comes to business and philosophy and everything like that. Russell: No pressure at all. Josh: Well, it's funny. Your wife said, "Oh, thanks so much for coming out." I was like, "Yeah, it's certainly ... Yeah, because it's inconvenience to me to fly all the way out here." I will say, this is my first ever in-person interview like this. Russell: Oh, really? Josh: Yeah. Russell: We got the microphones set up. Josh: I know. We have- Russell: He’s a professional. I've never done this before. Josh: Literally, we have a soundboard down here. We've got Russell's mic. Can you guys hear us all right? By the way, guys, for all of you listening on audio, we apologize because we're going to answer some comments in the Facebook feed here because we've got everybody down here. By the way, you can see all the comments down here. Russell: What's up, everyone? Josh: All right, guys. If you are live, comment down below. Let us know where you're tuning in from. Let us know if you know Russell or if you know me or if you know both of us or what you're most looking forward to. And Russell, I'm going to be honest with you. We're just going to be super chill. Guys, we have a live audience back here. We've got Dave. Dave's over there. We've got Jake and Nick. Russell: What's up, Dave? Josh: Where'd Jake go? Russell: Jake's working. Josh: Oh, there we go. Jake's working late over there. Russell: Jake, by the way, designed these amazing shirts for this- Josh: Yeah, check us out. Russell: This is my Rearden Steel shirt. This is my Who Is John Galt shirt. Josh: Isn't this great? Okay, but I feel like the back- Russell: Yeah the back I’ll read what it says. It says, "I started my life with a single absolute, that the world was mine to shape and the image of my highest values never to be given to a lesser standard, no matter how long or hard the struggle." So do you guys like these shirts? These are custom made for tonight. And you guys may have a chance to get one of these, but not yet. No, not yet. Josh: Not yet. Russell: We'll let you know when the ability ... If you guys ... Josh: Oh, man. Oh, man. Russell: Anyway, it's going to be fun, but these are custom ... We literally made these today. We needed some sweet shirts…for the show. Josh: Okay, Will says he got your text. Did you send my text to everybody? Russell: Yeah. Josh: Russell on top of it. I sent out a ManyChat, Russell sent out a text. All right, guys. Let's lay some ground rules here. So the quick backstory behind this ... And it's going to be weird. You've got to look in the camera here. Quick backstory behind this is I make a post on Facebook about, what, probably three months ago now or so? Russell: Yeah. Josh: Two, three months ago. And I go, "We need some epic people to interview for the podcast. Who do you know? Tag them all down below." And shout out, Georgie. Georgie comments and goes… "I coached Russell. You should totally interview me." And I was like, "You've got to be pretty gutsy to tag Russell in your comment and tell him you coached him," but then Russell comments back- Russell: And George is an Olympic wrestler. He was on the Bulgarian Olympic team. He wrestled at Boise State with me. He's the man. So yeah. Josh: I commented back. I go, "You coached Russel?" And then Russell goes, "Well, yeah. He coached me. He's awesome. You should totally interview him." And so I said, "Yeah, Georgie, of course, you can come on. We'll do an interview, but Russell, I've got an open invitation to you if you want to come back on." And then you were like, "Sure, if we can talk about…" or no, you didn't say sure. You said, "Can we do it about Atlas Shrugged?" Russell: Yes. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Because I interview a lot about business stuff and- Josh: I'll pull the microphone just slightly. Russell: Yes. I don't do a lot of interviews because ... I feel like I've said, but I don't want to say, but I just finished literally probably the fattest book in the history of books called Atlas Shrugged. And I was geeking out on it and I wanted to talk about it. I didn't have a way or someone to geek out with, other than some of my friends here. And I was like, "If you want to talk about Atlas Shrugged, I'm in." And then you started freaking out. Josh: The funny thing was is I go something to the effect of, "You want to talk about the fall of capitalism because of a boycott, because of a brilliant person and why socialism sucks? Yes, absolutely. I would love to do that," to which you don't give me a yes or no answer. You reply back and go, "Ha-ha. Oh, man. That'd be fun." I'm like, "Talk about an open loop, man. Come on." So anyway, I immediately messaged Russel and I'm like, "You better not be joking because that would just be rude." He goes, "No, I'm totally in." Josh: So about two months go by. You had a bunch of stuff. You had some fun stuff during that time, hanging out with- Russell: Lot of stuff is happening. Josh: Tony Robbins? Russell: Yeah, Tony, man. And it's been chaos the last couple months, not going to lie. And as we got closer and closer to the election, I'm like, "This is an interesting conversation, post-election, but I think it's more interesting before election." And so was it two days ago, three days ago, you're like, "I will fly to Boise to record this." Josh: Yeah. Russell: "What day do you have open?" I'm like, "Only Wednesday night." And now we're here. Josh: Yeah. It was Friday afternoon. We were Voxing back and forth and you're like, "Dude, we've got to get this done before the election." I'm like, "Before the election? Oh, my word." I said, "All right. Sounds good. What time do you have available?" And that's when I was like, "You know what? I was going to ask you creatively, but I'm just going to ask you. How about I fly out to you?" And you're like, "Heck, yeah." Josh: So guys, that's the backstory. That's how we got here. And so this is an open conversation about Atlas Shrugged and kind of everything that encapsulates. I think we'll talk about some religion, some politics, kind of both sides of the aisle there and open it up. Russell: Fun. Josh: Anything else you want to add to that? Russell: The only other thing I would add is, because this book, by the way, if you haven't read it yet, is very polarizing. There are people on both sides of it. Russell: And I think both of us wanted to stress ahead of time that I do not believe in everything in this book. A lot of things in this book, I do believe in. And it's interesting. One of the things I want to dive deeper in in this conversation, I'm excited for and I told you not to do Voxer. I was like, what's fascinating to me is not, "This is what we should believe." What was fascinating to me as I was reading this book, and we'll get into the premise of the book for those who haven't read it, but the big thing is producers and going out there and creating stuff and doing things, which is what entrepreneurs do. Right? And it gets in the part of greed is good. You should be greedy because it's going to create all these amazing things, which then the byproduct's really good. Russell: And part of me is like, "Yes, yes, yes, yes," and then part of me, as a believing Christian, I hear this message I believe in and then I hear in my mind ringing Christ, talking faith, hope, charity, and love. And I feel like they're these two polar opposite things, which by the way, we dive into politics a little bit. There are two polar opposite sides, one that believes one, one believes the other. Russell: And I think that there's a happy medium and that's what I want to dive deep into just because I don't want anyone thinking, "Oh, Russell and Josh just believe this," or whatever. It's like, no, there's sides of this and I empathize on both sides. I want to talk about both of them because they're fascinating. Anyway, I've toyed writing a boy about this concept, these two things. Anyway, I think it should be fun to first time verbally ever talk about this stuff. So I'm excited for it. Josh: Yeah. And I would just echo that, as well. I think one of the things that often happens with me, with my ... So funny. You, who never, ever talks about politics and me who doesn't know how to get on Facebook without arguing about politics, colliding here, but is that a lot of times I get grouped into, "Oh, you like this reading. Therefore, you believe with everything." "You read this book," or, "You support this person," whether it's a political figure or a book or something like that. It's like, by saying that you enjoyed that or that you learned a lot from it, that all of a sudden you suddenly believe everything in it. And that is not the case at all. And I've gotten a lot of criticism from people that are like, "How could you possibly like Atlas Shrugged?" And I'm like, "Well, this is the conversation that we're going to have." Josh: So real quick, before we dive in, I'd be curious ... I want to do a poll real quick. How many of you guys have actually read the book? I'm curious to know. Hold up here. There's two different versions of it, but if you've read the book, just comment below the number one if you have read the book, the number two if you have not read the book. I think that will just kind of give us a poll. We've got 200, 300 people. Russell: And if you listened to the audiobook, we'll count that as reading, too, either way. Josh: Yeah. Not if you know the premise of the book, but actually have read the book and have a deep understanding of it, or not deep understanding. But have like… Russell: Understand the stories them in. Josh: Yeah, things like that, because then it'll be interesting. Russell: One is read. Josh: One is read, two is not read. Oh, more ones than I thought was going to. Russell: Yeah. Me too. Josh: Russell's book is so underrated. Russell: We're 50/50. Josh: Ooh, yeah. I think we should take a poll at the end; what's better, Atlas Shrugged or Dotcom Secrets? That's the real question we should be asking right now. Russell: That would be good, that would be good. Josh: Okay. So we have a lot of people that have not read it, so we'll have to go into the premise of that. Okay. Russell: Are you ready to get started? Josh: Yeah. I'm ready to rock and roll with it. Russell: Oh I’m ready. Josh: Okay. Guys, we want to lay a couple ground rules. Okay? Because I don't know what it's like to be Russell, Russell doesn't know what it's like to be me, but I think we both have a mutual understanding that we could very easily be taken out of context here. Josh: I think the goal, and then I want you to kind of expand upon this, is we're not trying to take a side here. We're trying to have an open discussion about it. This could very easily turn into something that's like, "Why did you vote for Trump? Why Biden sucks, why Biden's great, why Trump sucks," something like that or certain religion. We're not trying to convince you of anything, really. In fact, this is honestly more of a conversation for us. And we're like, "We think it'd be cool to stream it out to a bunch of people because there's a reason for me to fly out here and do that," but the purpose of this is to have an open discussion about the book, the premise of the book, an understanding of it, and then honestly we're probably going to be in our own little world over here. Josh: And we want you guys to interact and comment and engage and push your questions. And we'll go back through it, obviously, but the purpose of this is not to try to convince anybody of anything. It's simple to, at least from my perspective, shed a new perspective and give the perspective of somebody who, for those of you that don't know who Russell is, the founder of a ... ClickFunnels is a billion-dollar company, SaaS company. You have 400 employees? Russell: Yeah. Josh: 400 employees. So from that perspective and from my perspective, to open your eyes to a new perspective of what we like, what we don't like and, like I said, more of a conversation for us. Russell: Yeah. I think that's good. And I think a big thing that we will talk about ... Our goal is not to convince you of anything. In fact, I think I'm still convincing myself of both sides. I believe both these two things that seem contradictory, but I think there's a middle ground and I'm excited to explore it. So it'll be fun. Josh: Cool. So I think we got to- Russell: Talk about the premise of the book? Josh: Yeah, we've got to talk about the premise of the book. Russell: I might have a little mini statue behind me that might help. Can I grab that? Josh: Ooh, yeah. Russell: Okay. So folks that have not read Atlas Shrugged, I didn't know what the premise was at first, but this is the story of Atlas. Some of you guys know Atlas was cursed to have to carry the entire weight of the universe, entire weight of the world upon his shoulders for forever. Right? And so this is where the premise of the book ... All of us, people who are listening to this might guess that you are a producer. Right? Otherwise, you probably wouldn't be listening to me or to Josh. I attract, I teach, I coach, I help producers, entrepreneurs, people who are trying to change the world. Right? Russell: I'm curious, how many of you guys have ever felt this pressure. Right? When you feel like you literally have the entire weight of the world upon your shoulders. And if you haven't, it's time to become a producer. That's first off. Second off, I can empathize, though. There's so many times, you can ask Dave or any guys on my team, there's days I come in, I was like, "I feel like I'm going to crack." There is so much weight to carry this around. And I'm guessing most of you guys have felt that. It could be with your family, could be in work, could be business, whatever, but you've felt the weight of the world. Right? Russell: So this is what Atlas had to hold. Right? And so the premise of the book, Atlas Shrugged, is what would happen if the producers, the people that are carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders, what happens if they were to go on strike and they were to shrug their shoulders and be like, "Meh." In fact, should I read your tile you gave me here? Josh: Yeah. Russell: So Josh, as a gift today, gave me some amazing tiles. This is a quote, actually, from the book, Atlas Shrugged, talking about this. It says, "If you saw Atlas, the giant holds the world on his shoulders. If you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling, but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater of his efforts, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders, what would you tell him to do? Just shrug." That's things like, what happens to society when us, the producers, when we no longer want to carry the weight of the world? We shrug and we walk away from it. Russell: And the book is a story about that. What happens when these producers start disappearing and they start leaving, they start going on strike? You see society, what happens when the producers disappear. Josh: Yeah. It's interesting because there is no one named Atlas Shrugged in the book and there's nobody named Ayn Rand in the book. And so there's concepts that she's writing about outside of that and it's this ... How do you summarize a 1200-page book? Basically, in the book, there is a main character by the name of Dagny. Russell: Oh. Yes. Josh: Oh. Russell: I was going to say John Galt, but you're right. Yes, Dagny’s the main character. Josh: Sorry. For the first two thirds of the book, the main character is a woman by the name of Dagny. And basically, she is one of the producers of society. And she's not the head boss of the railroad, but she's basically the person that runs this railroad company. And it is written, what, 1950 is when this was- Russell: Yeah. Josh: So 1950, and it's basically this forecast into the future of a government that is basically forcing super, super strict restrictions onto private businesses and making them do things, kind of like today in America, but super, super government overreach in a lot of ways. And so Dagny is trying to keep the world afloat, more or less, by getting the railroads done on time and getting orders shipped. Josh: And I'm super oversimplifying, but around her, all the people that she works with that owned all these other companies that she would buy copper from or she would buy steel from or buy the railroad track from or buy the coal from, all of a sudden all these head people ... Imagine people like Russell, all his friends just start disappearing. Imagine Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and Russell all just started disappearing. Right? That's what's happening all around her and she doesn't understand what's happening to them because just, one day, it's up and it's gone. Josh: And so the premise of the first two thirds of the book is showing this story of this producer who is living in this world of super government tyranny, overreach that's super, super controlling and she's watching all of her friends disappear and she doesn't know why. Would you say that's a pretty good explanation of it so far? Russell: Yeah. And every time they disappear, they leave behind a note or something that says, "Who is John Galt?" That's this theme throughout the book, is who is John Galt? Who is this John Galt person that makes all the producers disappear? Josh: And Dagny has no idea who John Galt is. Right? She doesn't even know, actually, for awhile that John Galt's actually even a real person. And so once she does find out that John Galt is probably a real person, John Galt becomes her sworn enemy because she doesn't know who he is or what he's doing. All she knows and all she associates with is that John Galt is taking away all these producers of society and is making her life harder because ... Imagine you being an entrepreneur and all of your entrepreneur friends that you buy stuff from and that you send all your people to, your referrals and everything, you buy all your supplies from, imagine they're all just disappearing and you think it's because of this one guy who's taking them all away and you don't know what's happening to them. Obviously, they'd become your sworn enemy. Josh: So for the first two thirds-ish of the book, that's kind of this premise of they're painting this really, really vivid story of the ... what are they called, the great thinkers of society? Yeah, the great minds of society, basically disappearing. And Dagny and ... there's a guy by the name of Hank Rearden, I think. Russell: Yeah, Rearden Steel. Josh: Rearden Steel, yeah. So Dagny and Hank Rearden are the two major ones left right before the big plot twist happens and you're like, "Oh," and then you get introduced to John Galt. I'm going to let you explain John Galt now. Russell: Oh, man. Okay. So that's the first two thirds of the book. By the way, there's movies. Don't watch them. They'll ruin the book. The movies were really bad. Josh: Yeah. Read the book. Russell: So two thirds into the book, she starts trying to figure out this mystery of who's John Galt. She ends up finding him and turns out that he has been going around and getting all these producers to go on strike, convinces them to, "Look, it's not worth fighting for anymore. All your incentives are gone. Let's leave. Let's go on strike," and they leave. And John Galt's trying to get her to leave and she's like, "I can't. I have to do everything in my power." The last third of the book is her leaving John Galt's presence and going back and trying to figure out how to do this thing as she's watching just government regulations getting harder, and harder, and harder, and harder to the point where everyone just has to disappear. Russell: But one of the things John Galt and the people say, "When the lights of New York go out, then we'll come back and we'll rebuild society from the ground up, after the looters and the people are gone." Josh: And that's basically how the books ends is lights of New York go out and then- Russell: For such a long book, all of a sudden it just ends and you're like, "Oh, I need one more chapter. Come on. Just end it." Josh: And we're never going to get it. Ah. Russell: Well, maybe I'll write it. Josh: Yeah. So that's the storyline of the book, but what I think we really both want to focus here is kind of the premises and the overarching ideas that the book presents, and capitalism versus socialism, and I think we'll talk religion and politics and kind of everything that’s in that, but I kind of want to, if it's all right with you, I kind of want to turn the conversation more towards us now and just kind of start geeking out just about that. Josh: So guys, we'll obviously go back and ... By the way, we want all your comments if you're ... Actually, comment below right now. Where are you watching? Are you watching it on YouTube? Are you watching it on Think Different Theory page or are you watching it on Russell's page? Comment down below because we went to multiple different locations. So we have a bunch of different people tuning in for everything. So just comment down below. Leave your comments, leave your questions, smash the like button, love button, share this out, and we're going to be here. Josh: All right, Russell. What's up? Russell: Hey, man. Josh: All right. Dude, I've been wanting to, and I hate this terminology, but just pick somebody's brain like yours for the longest time. And this book, oh, my gosh. So what do you like about the book? What was your favorite thing? Russell: Yeah. Well, let me tell the backstory. So 2008 is when the market crashed last time, right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: And I didn't realize that, that year, over 500,000 copies were sold organically by people talking to me about it, talking about, "Everything's she's prophesying is happening right now." And so, back then, I remember all my entrepreneur friends, like, "You have to read this book." It was the word-of-mouth buzz that sold 500,000 copies of a book has been ... The author died, whatever, 30 years earlier. There's not active marketing out there. It's crazy. And everyone's talking about it, like, "What's happening in this book is happening in 2008." And it was just this prophecy that was being fulfilled. Russell: And so everyone in 2008 was telling me to read this book. I remember buying it and I was like, "This is a really, really big book." And it took me awhile to get into it and I could never get into it. I read the first, I don't know, first 200 or 300 pages four or five times. And then, finally, this summer, one of my very first trips where I didn't bring a laptop since my marriage. So my wife is very proud of me. Josh: Dang. Russell: And so as I was leaving the office, I grabbed this book. And I picked it up and I was like, "I have no computer, but I've got this." And usually, I bring 20 books just because I know I'm going to read. I just brought one and I was like, "I'm going to do this. I'm going to be forced. I'm on a lake for a week and a half with my kids and all I can do is read this book." So I brought it, got the audiobook, as well. It's funny, I do the same. I listen to the audiobook and I read along so I can listen to it way faster, that way. And I started going through it. It took me a little while. She does such a good job of character development at the very beginning, it took awhile to get into it. Josh: Yeah, for sure. Russell: And then the story hits and then you're just like ... And you couldn't- Josh: It's like thing, after thing, after thing. It's so quick. Russell: Oh, yeah. And it got crazy. So for me, it was interesting because I think, if I would've listened to it 10 years ago or read it 10 years ago, I had never experienced any of the things they talk about in this book. Right? Josh: Now you don't have to worry about it. Yeah. Russell: Even better. I never experienced government regulations and things like that or just those kind of things. And as ClickFunnels has grown from me and Todd to our first member, to our first thousand, 10,000, 100,000 members, 400 ... I don't know how many employees, a lot, 400 plus employees. As it's grown, it's been crazy because you would think all we'd be focusing on here inside ClickFunnels is the next feature in the app, next thing. Russell: And there's the year where we had to spend an entire year just refactoring the software for GDPR compliance. We have regulations that come in on taxes and this. It's constant where most of the battles we fight at ClickFunnels right now is not about, how do we make this thing better for the customer? It's, how do we protect our customers from the government? It's crazy. And just so many regulations and things. Russell: And so I have been feeling this pressure. Some of you guys may have seen my interview I did with Tony Robbins ... not interview, but Tony Robbins did an intervention with me last year in Fiji. Josh: Yeah. That was fascinating, by the way. Russell: I'm so glad we captured that. It was a really cool moment in my life, but if you listen in there, I talked about ... He's like, "Well, what do you want to do?" And I was like, "I don't know, but the pressure ... I love the same, so I love everything I'm doing. I love the people we're serving, but there's these other pressures that aren't the game, that aren't the people, that they just get so heavy sometimes where it makes me want to just walk away." And again, as I'm reading this book- Josh: You hadn't read the book at the time. Russell: I hadn't read it yet. Josh: Yeah, okay. Russell: As I'm reading this, it's like- Josh: Did you know anything about the- Russell: I did not know the premise, no. Josh: You knew nothing. Okay, okay, okay. Russell: I didn't know what Atlas Shrugged meant. I was just like, "Oh, it's Atlas ..." I didn't know ... And it was like, when I read this title, like, "What would you tell Atlas if this was happening? Just shrug." And I was like, "Oh, that's why they called it Atlas Shrugged." And then I remember vividly feeling the pressure of this calling and how heavy it is. Russell: And there's so many times I wish, like, "Okay, sometimes it'd be so nice to walk away or to shrug or whatever." And so I instantly, with Dagny's character, I was like ... I feel that with Hank Rearden. I had so much empathy and understood their characters because I feel that so many times. Hank Rearden just wanted to invent his steel and put it out. That's all he cared about, right? For me, funnels are my art. I can't draw, but funnels, that's my art and entrepreneurship. That's my art. And so I just want to do my art. That's it. He just wanted to create steel. And it's all these other things and it's just like, "I just want to do my steel. I just want to do my art. Why do I have to deal with all this other stuff?" Russell: And so as I'm reading this, I just had so much empathy for the characters because I felt like I was the characters, even though it was weird because it's railroads and stuff like that and I'm internet, but I think that's why I really got into it. And then I got just curious, what happens? How does this story end? Be I'm in the middle of it. And depending who's listening, you may or may not have felt some of these pressures. As you grow, you feel them. Russell: It's interesting. As ClickFunnels has grown, we've talked about the pressure that I feel today would've crushed me five years ago. Right? And so you have to go through this thing where you build capacity to handle the next set of pressure, and build capacity, and build capacity. And nowadays, stuff happens daily that's just like, "Man, that would've destroyed me five years ago." Russell: And so I think, if you guys haven't felt that, as you grow, as you continue to try to get your message out and try to grow your businesses, whatever, the bigger you get, the more that pressure comes. Josh: Do you think…with that ... And I want to continue that because it's such a good conversation, but with the pressure, the things that are happening now daily that would've wrecked you five years ago or three years ago, whatever it was, do you think it's good, though, that they would've? Is it good that, at the capacity that you understood, that you took those things seriously then or would it have been better for you to just be in this mindset? I know it's not possible, but looking back, if you could snap your fingers and back then would've had the mental capacity to just ignore all those things and go up, would that've been a good thing? Or the fact that you went through all those things, does that help? Russell: The going through it is what makes you worthy of the things, right? Josh: Being able to… Russell: It makes you ready for it. Otherwise, just like lifting weights, if you try to squat 800 pounds, that's what it feels like. Right? Your legs buckle and you die, but because you went through that thing, you're able to have the capacity to hold the weight. Josh: Okay. Russell: Yeah. So anyways, the thing for me that was the big thing is reading this. And so I was just fascinated because I was like, "This is kind of my story. How does it end?" Josh: How long did it take you to get through it? Russell: I'd say about two months. I got a lot of it done on the boat, and then I got into biking for a little while, so I was listening to it while I was biking. Josh: That's right, I remember that. Russell: I just kept biking and biking, like, "One more chapter, one more chapter." I'm in really good shape because of it. It's funny because one of the premises ... And they don't say greed is good, but there's a chapter, I think it's called Greed. And I remember, if you guys have ever seen Wall Street, Gordon Gekko talks about, "Greed is good," and I never understood that premise. Right? In the book, they start talking about that, how greed is what drives this whole thing. Is it called Greed? Josh: I'm trying to find it. Russell: Utopia of Greed, yeah. Josh: And then Anti-Greed. So Utopia of Greed and then Anti-Greed. Russell: So what's interesting is ... because all of us are taught that greed is bad, right? That's just, like, you shouldn't be greedy. That's, I think, a principle that's instilled in most of us, but then I think about, for me, when I started this business, why did I start this business? I wanted to make money. That's greed, right? And you think about any of us, we go through a phase in all of our lives that greed is the driving factor. Right? When I wanted to become a good wrestler, I wanted to become a good wrestler. It was greedy. I went and got coaches and spent all my time and it was a very selfish time in my life. Not that it's bad, but it's a very greedy time. Right? Kids, when they're first born ... I love my kids. They are so ... not in a bad way, but they're greedy. It's about them. Right? Josh: Right. Russell: And it's this growth phase where growth ... You have to be greedy. You're in the growth phase. Right? When you're trying to learn, you're sucking things and you're learning and you're not contributing it. You're just learning, you're growing. And it was interesting because, as I'm going through this, I'm like, the greed is what got me into business. Right? And it's what got these things started and then the byproduct of that is jobs were created and things ... All the byproduct of it is ... I think, in the book, how it justifies it, Hank Rearden going after ... he wanted to build his steel and make a bunch of money, created tens of thousands of jobs and changed the world and changes all these things. Russell: And so the premise of the book is that greed is this driving force that gets you moving. And it is. If you think about any aspect of your life, from sports to education, to business, to everything, it starts with greed. Now, we'll go deeper into this. I don't want everyone to think that I'm just into this for the greed, because there's a transition point. We'll talk about it in a minute, but there's a transition point from growth to contribution that happens, but that's in the book where it starts talking about that. Russell: And I remember I was on the greenbelt here in Boise, riding my bike with James P. Friel, listening to that chapter. And I was trying to think, "Is this true? Did I get started because of greed?" And it's like, yeah, I didn't start a business because I wanted to change the world. Eventually, that happened, but it wasn't like it was ... Greed was the driving force that moved me forward. I think it moves all of us forward such a long time. And as I was listening as I'm riding my bike, I'm like, "Yes, I understand this," and the other half of me was like ... I started thinking about my spiritual upbringing. Right? Josh: Yeah. Russell: I'm very Christian. I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints and I started thinking about Christ and his teachings, which are, honestly, the opposite of that. Right? It's like- Josh: Really the polar opposite. Russell: Yeah. Josh: Which it's funny, whenever you say that, people are like, "You know, Jesus was a socialist." I hear that a lot. I'm like, "You need to read the Bible." Anyway, but I think a lot- Russell: But he definitely is way more liberal leaning, 100%. Josh: Right, right. And I think that that's where Republicans, conservative, traditionally on that side of the aisle, fiscally Republicans get into trouble is where we're like, "Yeah, we're Christians, but we also want to get rich," and they never talk about all this other ... People like to use Christianity, I feel like, when it's convenient. Russell: We call it cafeteria Christians. Josh: Right. Russell: They pick and choose the things off the menu they want. Josh: Right. And then they go through and do it. So I definitely want to dive further into that, but continue that. Russell: Yeah. So that started this question in my head, though, of just, so is greed bad then or is it good or where does it fit in the whole grand scheme of things? Because it is something that's instilled in all of us from birth. Right? When you're born, you're a baby, if you didn't have greed, you would just die. Right? It's me. I need food, I need love, I need shelter. It makes you cry, which creates people coming to you. Greed is a driving force that's instilled in humans from birth, right? When we come here, greed is what helps us survive the first part of our life. Russell: And first, I was having this conundrum. I'm just like, "God, is this book evil? I don't know what to do with myself." Right? But all good things in my life that happened happened initially because the seed of greed started me on motion, started me in momentum. And then I started thinking, if you've read the Expert Secrets book, which- Josh: If you haven't, come on. Russell: If you haven't, you must hate money. Come on. No, but in the beginning of Expert Secrets book, I talk about this concept, as well, where as an expert, there's two phases to go through. The first is a growth phase. Right? I want to be an expert in whatever. You go through and you're a consumer, consuming everything. And that's greed, right? And then there's this transition point where, eventually, you keep trying to grow, grow, grow, grow, trying to learn everything, going there. I'm listening to all the podcasts, I'm reading all the books, I'm growing, growing, growing. And eventually, there's this point. I remember feeling it in multiple parts of my life. In wrestling, I felt it. In business, I felt it where you can't continue ... The ability to grow through consumption slows to almost a halt where you can't continue to grow. Right? Russell: I've shared this story. I think I shared it in the book with wrestling. I was a really good wrestler. I was a high school state champ. I took second place in the nation. I was an All-American. And my senior year, I got invited to go to a wrestling camp. My coach was like, "Hey, do you want to come coach wrestling this summer?" And I was like, "Why would I do that? What's in it for me?" Josh: Before you go on here, I want to ask you something. So you're riding your bike, wrestling with this whole greed thing. Is this the first time that you've thought about greed in this way? Russell: 100%. Josh: And this is, what, six months ago? Russell: Not even that. Maybe four months ago. Josh: So you've built most of what ClickFunnels is today and now this is the first time you're really sitting down and wrestling with this idea of greed and is it bad, is it good, what's the balance there and stuff like that? Russell: Yeah. Josh: That's fascinating. Russell: Yeah. It never crossed my mind, really. And then it became this thing where it bothered me because I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. I don't want to be a greedy person." You know what I mean? Josh: Right. Russell: I'm like, "I don't feel like I am," but I was stuck. I couldn't figure that out. Right? And so I'll rewind to the wrestling story because I think it will set it up. Josh: Yep. Russell: But my senior year, again, I'd been growing as a wrestler. I was going to camps. I was getting coaching. I was greedy. I was sucking up everyone's brainpower I could and I became a really good wrestler because of it. And then my coach asked me to go coach a wrestling camp. So I say yes, go to the wrestling camp, and I remember he's like, "Okay, I need you to teach ..." My best move… I'm really good at tilts. So for all the wrestlers out there, I'm really good at cheap tilts. And he's like, "Teach these kids how to do a cheap tilt." Russell: And I was like, "Okay." So I walk out, there are like 30 kids. I'm like, "Yeah, you do this. You just do it like that." And they all look at me and they go try and they try to do a cheap tilt and they all just fall apart. I'm like, "Are you guys dumb? This is not that hard." I'm like, "Come back in, come back in. No, you did it all wrong. This is how you do it." I show them again, like, "Go do it." They go back out, nobody can do it. Russell: And then, all of a sudden, I'm like, "Gosh, they're missing something. What is it?" So I have them come back in and I start breaking down, "Hey, for the move to work, your hips have to be here, your legs have to be here." I start walking through all the things. And as I'm doing that, I start realizing, "Oh, the season why I'm able to do this is because of this," and I started realizing what I was doing as I was teaching people. And as I taught it to people, then the kids started doing it and they got better and better. And all of a sudden, I started realizing, "Oh, my gosh. This move works because of this." Russell: And now that I was aware of the situation, now I was able to make these tweaks and stuff on my own. And I realized that, but coaching the kids, that was the next-level growth. It was a shift from selfish greed growth to contribution. So that's why I started coaching camps every year and that's why I went from slowing down my progression to, all of a sudden, it sped back up again by shifting from growth to contribution. Okay? Russell: And so I think the same thing happens in business, right? I got in business because that seed of greed is in us. It gets us moving, gets us in the momentum. And some people never get out of that. Some people live their entire lives chasing greed and they die and it's a tragedy, but I think for most people, there's this transition point. And I don't know where it happens. It happens different spots for everyone where, all of a sudden, you realize ... you make the money, you started the business, and you realizing how unfulfilling that is. You're tapping out. You're like, "I'm not growing anymore. I thought I wanted money, but I don't. I want growth. That's what we're here on this planet for, is to grow as humans. Right? Russell: You don't get that and, all of a sudden, you realize money's not fulfilling and then you start seeing the other people you're contributing to and you're helping. Then it shifts to ... We hear people talk about, "This is about impact, about growth, it's about helping other people," and that's that transition. That's charity, love. That's pure love of Christ. It's that transition, but greed is the seed that gets us moving, right? And so there's this handoff. It doesn't happen all the time. And are you guys cool if I share scripture stuff? Because- Josh: 100%. Russell: -all this stuff is scriptural. It's not just- Josh: They don't get to decide, Russell. I get to decide. It's my podcast. You can talk about whatever. Russell: If you hate scripture, just close your ears and go, "Blah, blah, blah." So I wrote down some scripture. This is a scripture because it illustrates this point. I think it's so good. Josh: Also, I just want to say, Russell Voxed me and he said that this is the first episode of a podcast that he's ever prepared for. When you said that, I'm like, "Ha! I was the first for something for Russell. Let's go." Russell: I want to be ready. Okay. So this is a scripture. It says, "For the natural man is an enemy to God and has been from the fall of Adam and will be forever and ever." I'm going to stop right there. Okay. So natural man is an enemy to God. Why is that? We're born. We have this greed inside of us, so the natural human is the enemy of God because we're chasing after greed. Right? But God gives us that seed because it creates momentum. It creates motion. It creates us doing something. Right? Russell: And then it says in here, it says, "For the natural man is an enemy to God and has been from the fall of Adam, will be forever and ever," and then this is the transition point, "unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit." So he's greedy forever, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit and puteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ, the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father." Russell: So growth is the seed. It's the natural man. It's the thing we have that's ... It's good, right? God gives it to us because it gets us to do stuff, gets us to learn, gets us to not die in our crib because we need love and attention and to get fed. Right? So then it gets us off our butts, off the couches, us being producers that gets us moving. And if we're not careful, though, the natural man will destroy us. You see so many people who made tons of money and they destroyed themselves in their lives because they don't do that second thing, which is, "Unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit." Russell: That's the thing saying this is not about money, this is about the impact. Look at the people you're changing. And it shifts, right? If you make that shift, all of a sudden, now this thing you’re creating is not about greed, it's like, "Oh, my gosh ..." I remember, for ClickFunnels, when I had that transition was when I started seeing Brandon and Kaelin Poulin. I started seeing the ripple effect of their business. And I can name hundreds of people, person, after person, after person. Russell: I was like, "This isn't about money. This is about the ripple effect of what we've created in each person's life." Now, that's charity. That's love. Now the mission isn't about money. We don't care about the money. We keep score with money, but that's the mission, is the people's lives and the impact. And I think that's that transition where greed is the thing that gets us moving, but if we don't have that ... Russell: I think that's happened in the book. We talked about it. You said this at my house earlier, like, "A lot of people in the book seem like they have a miserable life." And it's like, yeah, because they never yielded to the spirit. They never made that shift. It was all greed to the point where they let everything collapse as opposed to the charity side of things. Josh: Yeah. So one of the things about the book ... And I'm sitting on the plane on the way over here and I'm like, "How do I articulate this?" Because that's always the hardest thing. You have this idea in your head and you're like, "How do I get it out and explain it in a way that somebody else can be like, 'Yes, I understand that?'" I'm going to go kind of political here for a second. I'm going to bring it back, too, specifically to the book. So I am pretty vocally a conservative. Right? I'm a blatant Trump supporter, very much so conservative when it comes to everything fiscal, but I call myself a libertarian because I actually think that I lean left on a lot of social issues. I think the government should stay out of gay marriage. Right? There's a lot of things that I lean left on, but when it comes to money and finances and things like that, I lean to the right. Josh: But the reason I lean to the right and I typically go with the right is because I like what the left is trying to do in concept. It's like, okay, there's a bunch of people that are really truly in need. I agree. We need to help them. The problem is is that the way they go about doing it, I so radically disagree with it. It's against everything that I stand for. Right? I'm like, it's not that I disagree with what you want to do, it's I disagree with how you want to do it. Josh: What's interesting is I feel like, in this book, I feel like it's the opposite. I actually don't agree with why they're doing it. This concept of ... I mean, Hank Rearden says it over and over again, "Everything that I do is for profit." That is it. Even to his friends. He took a bullet for John Galt, right? He gets shot. And John Galt thanks him for it. He goes, "You know I only did it because it's what I wanted to do, right?" Literally saves a guy's life. Josh: So it's all about what he wants and only for him and that's it. And it's profit and money and dollars. It's not about everything that he helps. And I'm like, I disagree with that premise, but what that leads to, I actually do like. And I feel like it's flipped compared to the world I'm living in now. Half the stuff that the Democrats ... I hate to… oh I want to go into politics so bad… Russell: Left and right. Josh: Yeah, the left. Guys, we're going to say left and right. Generalized here, right? Oh, my god, but generally speaking. And so when it comes to the whole greed issue, I'm like ... It's interesting to hear your perspective because I never, even throughout the book, I'm like, "Greed is a bad thing." And hearing your perspective, I'm like, okay, I understand what you're saying, but is it greed or is there some other driving ... If I were to ask you a year ago ... When were you in the heart of ClickFunnels, like a year and a half ago, two years? There was a time of your life when all you ... I know all you do is ClickFunnels, but when- Russell: It's the last six years of my life. Josh: But you know what I mean? Wasn't there a year or two period in there, in the growth phase, where 100% of everything you do was just ClickFunnels, ClickFunnels, ClickFunnels. It felt like you were going nonstop. It feels like you're a little bit more balanced now. Maybe not, but from the outside perspective looking in, it does. Anyway, during that time of growing ClickFunnels, before you read that, would you have described yourself as greedy? Russell: No. Josh: What would you have described yourself as? What's the word? Russell: I don't know. That's a good question. I was always trying to create stuff. It's art for me, right? So it's like I was trying to create stuff. I think, initially, I was creating for myself as opposed to, "Oh, my gosh. I create this for myself, but look what happens to the people." Josh: What point was that shift for you, though? Russell: You can see it in my marketing, by the way. And by the way, for those who are greedy capitalists who only care about money, it actually is a better marketing way, too. My marketing went from- Josh: For all you greedy capitalists out there, switch to being a contributor, you’ll make more money. Russell: Well, think about it. My marketing is always like, "Here's Russell. Here's how much money my funnel made. Here's how much ..." It was me talking about me all the time. And then I realized, "Who cares about me? I don't care about me. Let me show you what this person ... Let me show you all the results of the people we're serving, what's happening there," which first off, is better marketing and, second off, it's that transition where I was literally like, "Everything I've accomplished is stupid. What they're doing, that's the real ... What we're doing, that's the thing that's amazing." Right? That's the spiritual side of it. That's the thing where it's like, the thing that got you into motion now is doing good in the world. And when you start seeing that, it's like, oh, my gosh. That's so much more fulfilling and so much more exciting. Russell: And people ask me, "The last six years, why'd you keep getting up? Do you need more money?" I'm like, "No, that's not what keeps me up," but I can tell you 100 stories of people who ... literally the ripple effect of how many lives they've changed because I did my thing. Right? We made a documentary of the Two Comma Club and Jamie Cross has this whole part there where she's bawling her eyes out and she said, "Where would my family be if Russell wouldn't have fulfilled his God-given calling?" And every time I see that, I start bawling, myself. That's why, eventually, you start doing it. Right? Josh: But when did that shift happen? Russell: I don't know. It wasn't a day that it happened. The energy of it shifted. Right? I don't know. It gradually kind of happened. Josh: What's that? Dave: Tell them about your dad. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Dave, come on in. Dave's here. Dave, take the mic. Here. Dave: Yeah. No, honestly, I think… this has been one of those things. It's been fun for me to watch Russell from the sidelines here. I think, honestly, it was your dad's 60th birthday. Josh: Which was how long ago? Dave: I don't even know. Russell: Three, four years ago probably. Dave: But it was the reflection on that and it was the difference from having your hand raised versus ... because I remember you… Russell: Yeah, you want me to tell that story? Dave: Russell is a much better storyteller. I'll seed the thought, but I'll let him finish. Russell: All right. Josh: Oh, thank you Dave. Russell: Thank you. Interesting. Josh: Guys, we have a live audience here. Russell: So yeah, my dad turned 60 and we have our little family reunion every year we do. And so it was during his birthday. And I remember my mom gave him $60, six $10 bills. And so she gave them to him one at a time and said, "Okay, the first decade was one to 10. Tell us something you remember about that." He's like, "I don't remember anything back then." The second one, he's like, "10 to 20, that's when I was a wrestler. It was so much fun for me." And then, 20 to 30, he was like, "Okay, that's when I was starting my business, trying to figure things out and trying to get our family stable." 30 to 40, "That's when my kids were wrestling and I was coaching them." And then 50 to 60, he kind of went through everything. Russell: And then, after it was done, I asked him, I said, "Well, Dad, of all the decades, what one was the best for you?" Thinking, in my world, the best was going to be when he was a wrestler because I was like, for me, the greatest part of my life was when I was wrestling. And my dad said, "The greatest decade was when I got to coach you." I forgot that story until Dave said that, but I remember coming back and telling Dave and other people that I always thought the best part was being the all star. For my dad, the best part was coaching other people and seeing their hand raised. Josh: That was a good interjection there, Dave. Huh. Russell: …which was really cool. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Welcome to the first episode in a special 5 part series. Over the course of these next 5 episodes, you’ll get to hear an interview between Russell Brunson and Josh Forti about the book “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand. But this interview is much more than just them talking about the book, they are actually discussing business, religion, and politics (a subject Russell doesn’t talk about often) as they pertain to the concepts in the book.

In this first section, you’ll get to hear the introduction and the basis for how the entire conversation will flow. The first main topic of the book, and the main concept for this episode is greed. Is it bad? Can it be good? Are we born with it? Can we change?

So listen in to part one of this unique interview and start reading “Atlas Shrugged” (just read it, the movies aren’t great), so you can be ready for part 2!

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What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. And right now, I have a treat for you. Over the next five episodes, I'm going to be taking you in behind the scenes of an interview that I did with Josh Forti about the book, Atlas Shrugged. And some of you guys have read Atlas Shrugged, some of you haven't. Some of you know the premise, some of you don't.

And I want to preface this by saying I do not believe in everything taught in the Atlas Shrugged book. I love a lot of it. It talks about producers versus consumers, the looters and the takers versus those in society who are the creators. Right? And there's a lot of things I strongly align with. There's also things that I don't strongly align with. And so I love the book, one of my favorites I've ever read. And so that's the first thing.

Number two is, as I finished the book, I remember Josh Forti, who's one of our funnel hackers, he wanted to do the interview with me and I was just like, "I don't have time for interviews." And we're getting closer and closer to the election, we talked on Facebook. We were posting some comments and I was like, "You know what? The interview that I would actually love to do would be about Atlas Shrugged, looking at the whole political thing as it's happening right now and the elections and everything, through the lens of Atlas Shrugged. That'd actually be fascinating for me," because I don't typically, as you know, talk about politics. Right? I do talk about religion, but I don't talk about politics. That's not something I typically go into, but I thought it'd be interesting to look at politics from the lens of Atlas Shrugged.

And so in this interview series, it's a lot of fun. We talk about producers versus consumers. We talk about the left and the right. We talk about some political things. Now Josh, just so you know ahead of time, he's very pro-Trump, very much on that side of the discussions during this interview. And this interview, just so you know, took place before the elections. As of right now, I'm still not sure who won. You guys probably will know by the time you're listening to this, but as of when I'm recording this, we don't know, but he definitely leans on the Trump side. I don't really share much of my political beliefs, but you'll get kind of what I believe and why I believe it through the lens of Atlas Shrugged over this interview series.

So I hope you enjoy it. It was a lot of fun to do, a lot of great feedback and comments. And again, we talk about stuff I don't typically talk about ever. So this may be a one-time shot to hear inside my mind when it comes to politics, religion, and all through the lens of Atlas Shrugged, the book. So with that said, I want to introduce you guys to the first part of this five-part interview series with me and Josh Forti, talking about Atlas Shrugged.

Russell Brunson:

Are we live?

Josh Forti:

We are live.

Russell:

What's up, everybody?

Josh:

Oh, my word, with the incredibly ... I don't know if long-waited. It hasn't really been that long. Two months ago. So much expected podcast with Mr. Russell Brunson, himself. How are you doing, dude?

Russell:

I'm doing amazing, man. Thanks for flying all the way to Boise just for this conversation.

Josh:

Yeah, absolutely. Dude, this is probably the conversation I'm looking forward to most, certainly in my life thus far, when it comes to business and philosophy and everything like that.

Russell:

No pressure at all.

Josh:

Well, it's funny. Your wife said, "Oh, thanks so much for coming out." I was like, "Yeah, it's certainly ... Yeah, because it's inconvenience to me to fly all the way out here." I will say, this is my first ever in-person interview like this.

Russell:

Oh, really?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

We got the microphones set up.

Josh:

I know. We have-

Russell:

He’s a professional. I've never done this before.

Josh:

Literally, we have a soundboard down here. We've got Russell's mic. Can you guys hear us all right? By the way, guys, for all of you listening on audio, we apologize because we're going to answer some comments in the Facebook feed here because we've got everybody down here. By the way, you can see all the comments down here.

Russell:

What's up, everyone?

Josh:

All right, guys. If you are live, comment down below. Let us know where you're tuning in from. Let us know if you know Russell or if you know me or if you know both of us or what you're most looking forward to. And Russell, I'm going to be honest with you. We're just going to be super chill. Guys, we have a live audience back here. We've got Dave. Dave's over there. We've got Jake and Nick.

Russell:

What's up, Dave?

Josh:

Where'd Jake go?

Russell:

Jake's working.

Josh:

Oh, there we go. Jake's working late over there.

Russell:

Jake, by the way, designed these amazing shirts for this-

Josh:

Yeah, check us out.

Russell:

This is my Rearden Steel shirt. This is my Who Is John Galt shirt.

Josh:

Isn't this great? Okay, but I feel like the back-

Russell:

Yeah the back I’ll read what it says. It says, "I started my life with a single absolute, that the world was mine to shape and the image of my highest values never to be given to a lesser standard, no matter how long or hard the struggle." So do you guys like these shirts? These are custom made for tonight. And you guys may have a chance to get one of these, but not yet. No, not yet.

Josh:

Not yet.

Russell:

We'll let you know when the ability ... If you guys ...

Josh:

Oh, man. Oh, man.

Russell:

Anyway, it's going to be fun, but these are custom ... We literally made these today. We needed some sweet shirts…for the show.

Josh:

Okay, Will says he got your text. Did you send my text to everybody?

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Russell on top of it. I sent out a ManyChat, Russell sent out a text. All right, guys. Let's lay some ground rules here. So the quick backstory behind this ... And it's going to be weird. You've got to look in the camera here. Quick backstory behind this is I make a post on Facebook about, what, probably three months ago now or so?

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Two, three months ago. And I go, "We need some epic people to interview for the podcast. Who do you know? Tag them all down below." And shout out, Georgie. Georgie comments and goes… "I coached Russell. You should totally interview me." And I was like, "You've got to be pretty gutsy to tag Russell in your comment and tell him you coached him," but then Russell comments back-

Russell:

And George is an Olympic wrestler. He was on the Bulgarian Olympic team. He wrestled at Boise State with me. He's the man. So yeah.

Josh:

I commented back. I go, "You coached Russel?" And then Russell goes, "Well, yeah. He coached me. He's awesome. You should totally interview him." And so I said, "Yeah, Georgie, of course, you can come on. We'll do an interview, but Russell, I've got an open invitation to you if you want to come back on." And then you were like, "Sure, if we can talk about…" or no, you didn't say sure. You said, "Can we do it about Atlas Shrugged?"

Russell:

Yes.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

Because I interview a lot about business stuff and-

Josh:

I'll pull the microphone just slightly.

Russell:

Yes. I don't do a lot of interviews because ... I feel like I've said, but I don't want to say, but I just finished literally probably the fattest book in the history of books called Atlas Shrugged. And I was geeking out on it and I wanted to talk about it. I didn't have a way or someone to geek out with, other than some of my friends here. And I was like, "If you want to talk about Atlas Shrugged, I'm in." And then you started freaking out.

Josh:

The funny thing was is I go something to the effect of, "You want to talk about the fall of capitalism because of a boycott, because of a brilliant person and why socialism sucks? Yes, absolutely. I would love to do that," to which you don't give me a yes or no answer. You reply back and go, "Ha-ha. Oh, man. That'd be fun." I'm like, "Talk about an open loop, man. Come on." So anyway, I immediately messaged Russel and I'm like, "You better not be joking because that would just be rude." He goes, "No, I'm totally in."

Josh:

So about two months go by. You had a bunch of stuff. You had some fun stuff during that time, hanging out with-

Russell:

Lot of stuff is happening.

Josh:

Tony Robbins?

Russell:

Yeah, Tony, man. And it's been chaos the last couple months, not going to lie. And as we got closer and closer to the election, I'm like, "This is an interesting conversation, post-election, but I think it's more interesting before election." And so was it two days ago, three days ago, you're like, "I will fly to Boise to record this."

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

"What day do you have open?" I'm like, "Only Wednesday night." And now we're here.

Josh:

Yeah. It was Friday afternoon. We were Voxing back and forth and you're like, "Dude, we've got to get this done before the election." I'm like, "Before the election? Oh, my word." I said, "All right. Sounds good. What time do you have available?" And that's when I was like, "You know what? I was going to ask you creatively, but I'm just going to ask you. How about I fly out to you?" And you're like, "Heck, yeah."

Josh:

So guys, that's the backstory. That's how we got here. And so this is an open conversation about Atlas Shrugged and kind of everything that encapsulates. I think we'll talk about some religion, some politics, kind of both sides of the aisle there and open it up.

Russell:

Fun.

Josh:

Anything else you want to add to that?

Russell:

The only other thing I would add is, because this book, by the way, if you haven't read it yet, is very polarizing. There are people on both sides of it.

Russell:

And I think both of us wanted to stress ahead of time that I do not believe in everything in this book. A lot of things in this book, I do believe in. And it's interesting. One of the things I want to dive deeper in in this conversation, I'm excited for and I told you not to do Voxer. I was like, what's fascinating to me is not, "This is what we should believe." What was fascinating to me as I was reading this book, and we'll get into the premise of the book for those who haven't read it, but the big thing is producers and going out there and creating stuff and doing things, which is what entrepreneurs do. Right? And it gets in the part of greed is good. You should be greedy because it's going to create all these amazing things, which then the byproduct's really good.

Russell:

And part of me is like, "Yes, yes, yes, yes," and then part of me, as a believing Christian, I hear this message I believe in and then I hear in my mind ringing Christ, talking faith, hope, charity, and love. And I feel like they're these two polar opposite things, which by the way, we dive into politics a little bit. There are two polar opposite sides, one that believes one, one believes the other.

Russell:

And I think that there's a happy medium and that's what I want to dive deep into just because I don't want anyone thinking, "Oh, Russell and Josh just believe this," or whatever. It's like, no, there's sides of this and I empathize on both sides. I want to talk about both of them because they're fascinating. Anyway, I've toyed writing a boy about this concept, these two things. Anyway, I think it should be fun to first time verbally ever talk about this stuff. So I'm excited for it.

Josh:

Yeah. And I would just echo that, as well. I think one of the things that often happens with me, with my ... So funny. You, who never, ever talks about politics and me who doesn't know how to get on Facebook without arguing about politics, colliding here, but is that a lot of times I get grouped into, "Oh, you like this reading. Therefore, you believe with everything." "You read this book," or, "You support this person," whether it's a political figure or a book or something like that. It's like, by saying that you enjoyed that or that you learned a lot from it, that all of a sudden you suddenly believe everything in it. And that is not the case at all. And I've gotten a lot of criticism from people that are like, "How could you possibly like Atlas Shrugged?" And I'm like, "Well, this is the conversation that we're going to have."

Josh:

So real quick, before we dive in, I'd be curious ... I want to do a poll real quick. How many of you guys have actually read the book? I'm curious to know. Hold up here. There's two different versions of it, but if you've read the book, just comment below the number one if you have read the book, the number two if you have not read the book. I think that will just kind of give us a poll. We've got 200, 300 people.

Russell:

And if you listened to the audiobook, we'll count that as reading, too, either way.

Josh:

Yeah. Not if you know the premise of the book, but actually have read the book and have a deep understanding of it, or not deep understanding. But have like…

Russell:

Understand the stories them in.

Josh:

Yeah, things like that, because then it'll be interesting.

Russell:

One is read.

Josh:

One is read, two is not read. Oh, more ones than I thought was going to.

Russell:

Yeah. Me too.

Josh:

Russell's book is so underrated.

Russell:

We're 50/50.

Josh:

Ooh, yeah. I think we should take a poll at the end; what's better, Atlas Shrugged or Dotcom Secrets? That's the real question we should be asking right now.

Russell:

That would be good, that would be good.

Josh:

Okay. So we have a lot of people that have not read it, so we'll have to go into the premise of that. Okay.

Russell:

Are you ready to get started?

Josh:

Yeah. I'm ready to rock and roll with it.

Russell:

Oh I’m ready.

Josh:

Okay. Guys, we want to lay a couple ground rules. Okay? Because I don't know what it's like to be Russell, Russell doesn't know what it's like to be me, but I think we both have a mutual understanding that we could very easily be taken out of context here.

Josh:

I think the goal, and then I want you to kind of expand upon this, is we're not trying to take a side here. We're trying to have an open discussion about it. This could very easily turn into something that's like, "Why did you vote for Trump? Why Biden sucks, why Biden's great, why Trump sucks," something like that or certain religion. We're not trying to convince you of anything, really. In fact, this is honestly more of a conversation for us. And we're like, "We think it'd be cool to stream it out to a bunch of people because there's a reason for me to fly out here and do that," but the purpose of this is to have an open discussion about the book, the premise of the book, an understanding of it, and then honestly we're probably going to be in our own little world over here.

Josh:

And we want you guys to interact and comment and engage and push your questions. And we'll go back through it, obviously, but the purpose of this is not to try to convince anybody of anything. It's simple to, at least from my perspective, shed a new perspective and give the perspective of somebody who, for those of you that don't know who Russell is, the founder of a ... ClickFunnels is a billion-dollar company, SaaS company. You have 400 employees?

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

400 employees. So from that perspective and from my perspective, to open your eyes to a new perspective of what we like, what we don't like and, like I said, more of a conversation for us.

Russell:

Yeah. I think that's good. And I think a big thing that we will talk about ... Our goal is not to convince you of anything. In fact, I think I'm still convincing myself of both sides. I believe both these two things that seem contradictory, but I think there's a middle ground and I'm excited to explore it. So it'll be fun.

Josh:

Cool. So I think we got to-

Russell:

Talk about the premise of the book?

Josh:

Yeah, we've got to talk about the premise of the book.

Russell:

I might have a little mini statue behind me that might help. Can I grab that?

Josh:

Ooh, yeah.

Russell:

Okay. So folks that have not read Atlas Shrugged, I didn't know what the premise was at first, but this is the story of Atlas. Some of you guys know Atlas was cursed to have to carry the entire weight of the universe, entire weight of the world upon his shoulders for forever. Right? And so this is where the premise of the book ... All of us, people who are listening to this might guess that you are a producer. Right? Otherwise, you probably wouldn't be listening to me or to Josh. I attract, I teach, I coach, I help producers, entrepreneurs, people who are trying to change the world. Right?

Russell:

I'm curious, how many of you guys have ever felt this pressure. Right? When you feel like you literally have the entire weight of the world upon your shoulders. And if you haven't, it's time to become a producer. That's first off. Second off, I can empathize, though. There's so many times, you can ask Dave or any guys on my team, there's days I come in, I was like, "I feel like I'm going to crack." There is so much weight to carry this around. And I'm guessing most of you guys have felt that. It could be with your family, could be in work, could be business, whatever, but you've felt the weight of the world. Right?

Russell:

So this is what Atlas had to hold. Right? And so the premise of the book, Atlas Shrugged, is what would happen if the producers, the people that are carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders, what happens if they were to go on strike and they were to shrug their shoulders and be like, "Meh." In fact, should I read your tile you gave me here?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

So Josh, as a gift today, gave me some amazing tiles. This is a quote, actually, from the book, Atlas Shrugged, talking about this. It says, "If you saw Atlas, the giant holds the world on his shoulders. If you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling, but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater of his efforts, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders, what would you tell him to do? Just shrug." That's things like, what happens to society when us, the producers, when we no longer want to carry the weight of the world? We shrug and we walk away from it.

Russell:

And the book is a story about that. What happens when these producers start disappearing and they start leaving, they start going on strike? You see society, what happens when the producers disappear.

Josh:

Yeah. It's interesting because there is no one named Atlas Shrugged in the book and there's nobody named Ayn Rand in the book. And so there's concepts that she's writing about outside of that and it's this ... How do you summarize a 1200-page book? Basically, in the book, there is a main character by the name of Dagny.

Russell:

Oh. Yes.

Josh:

Oh.

Russell:

I was going to say John Galt, but you're right. Yes, Dagny’s the main character.

Josh:

Sorry. For the first two thirds of the book, the main character is a woman by the name of Dagny. And basically, she is one of the producers of society. And she's not the head boss of the railroad, but she's basically the person that runs this railroad company. And it is written, what, 1950 is when this was-

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

So 1950, and it's basically this forecast into the future of a government that is basically forcing super, super strict restrictions onto private businesses and making them do things, kind of like today in America, but super, super government overreach in a lot of ways. And so Dagny is trying to keep the world afloat, more or less, by getting the railroads done on time and getting orders shipped.

Josh:

And I'm super oversimplifying, but around her, all the people that she works with that owned all these other companies that she would buy copper from or she would buy steel from or buy the railroad track from or buy the coal from, all of a sudden all these head people ... Imagine people like Russell, all his friends just start disappearing. Imagine Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and Russell all just started disappearing. Right? That's what's happening all around her and she doesn't understand what's happening to them because just, one day, it's up and it's gone.

Josh:

And so the premise of the first two thirds of the book is showing this story of this producer who is living in this world of super government tyranny, overreach that's super, super controlling and she's watching all of her friends disappear and she doesn't know why. Would you say that's a pretty good explanation of it so far?

Russell:

Yeah. And every time they disappear, they leave behind a note or something that says, "Who is John Galt?" That's this theme throughout the book, is who is John Galt? Who is this John Galt person that makes all the producers disappear?

Josh:

And Dagny has no idea who John Galt is. Right? She doesn't even know, actually, for awhile that John Galt's actually even a real person. And so once she does find out that John Galt is probably a real person, John Galt becomes her sworn enemy because she doesn't know who he is or what he's doing. All she knows and all she associates with is that John Galt is taking away all these producers of society and is making her life harder because ... Imagine you being an entrepreneur and all of your entrepreneur friends that you buy stuff from and that you send all your people to, your referrals and everything, you buy all your supplies from, imagine they're all just disappearing and you think it's because of this one guy who's taking them all away and you don't know what's happening to them. Obviously, they'd become your sworn enemy.

Josh:

So for the first two thirds-ish of the book, that's kind of this premise of they're painting this really, really vivid story of the ... what are they called, the great thinkers of society? Yeah, the great minds of society, basically disappearing. And Dagny and ... there's a guy by the name of Hank Rearden, I think.

Russell:

Yeah, Rearden Steel.

Josh:

Rearden Steel, yeah. So Dagny and Hank Rearden are the two major ones left right before the big plot twist happens and you're like, "Oh," and then you get introduced to John Galt. I'm going to let you explain John Galt now.

Russell:

Oh, man. Okay. So that's the first two thirds of the book. By the way, there's movies. Don't watch them. They'll ruin the book. The movies were really bad.

Josh:

Yeah. Read the book.

Russell:

So two thirds into the book, she starts trying to figure out this mystery of who's John Galt. She ends up finding him and turns out that he has been going around and getting all these producers to go on strike, convinces them to, "Look, it's not worth fighting for anymore. All your incentives are gone. Let's leave. Let's go on strike," and they leave. And John Galt's trying to get her to leave and she's like, "I can't. I have to do everything in my power." The last third of the book is her leaving John Galt's presence and going back and trying to figure out how to do this thing as she's watching just government regulations getting harder, and harder, and harder, and harder to the point where everyone just has to disappear.

Russell:

But one of the things John Galt and the people say, "When the lights of New York go out, then we'll come back and we'll rebuild society from the ground up, after the looters and the people are gone."

Josh:

And that's basically how the books ends is lights of New York go out and then-

Russell:

For such a long book, all of a sudden it just ends and you're like, "Oh, I need one more chapter. Come on. Just end it."

Josh:

And we're never going to get it. Ah.

Russell:

Well, maybe I'll write it.

Josh:

Yeah. So that's the storyline of the book, but what I think we really both want to focus here is kind of the premises and the overarching ideas that the book presents, and capitalism versus socialism, and I think we'll talk religion and politics and kind of everything that’s in that, but I kind of want to, if it's all right with you, I kind of want to turn the conversation more towards us now and just kind of start geeking out just about that.

Josh:

So guys, we'll obviously go back and ... By the way, we want all your comments if you're ... Actually, comment below right now. Where are you watching? Are you watching it on YouTube? Are you watching it on Think Different Theory page or are you watching it on Russell's page? Comment down below because we went to multiple different locations. So we have a bunch of different people tuning in for everything. So just comment down below. Leave your comments, leave your questions, smash the like button, love button, share this out, and we're going to be here.

Josh:

All right, Russell. What's up?

Russell:

Hey, man.

Josh:

All right. Dude, I've been wanting to, and I hate this terminology, but just pick somebody's brain like yours for the longest time. And this book, oh, my gosh. So what do you like about the book? What was your favorite thing?

Russell:

Yeah. Well, let me tell the backstory. So 2008 is when the market crashed last time, right?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

And I didn't realize that, that year, over 500,000 copies were sold organically by people talking to me about it, talking about, "Everything's she's prophesying is happening right now." And so, back then, I remember all my entrepreneur friends, like, "You have to read this book." It was the word-of-mouth buzz that sold 500,000 copies of a book has been ... The author died, whatever, 30 years earlier. There's not active marketing out there. It's crazy. And everyone's talking about it, like, "What's happening in this book is happening in 2008." And it was just this prophecy that was being fulfilled.

Russell:

And so everyone in 2008 was telling me to read this book. I remember buying it and I was like, "This is a really, really big book." And it took me awhile to get into it and I could never get into it. I read the first, I don't know, first 200 or 300 pages four or five times. And then, finally, this summer, one of my very first trips where I didn't bring a laptop since my marriage. So my wife is very proud of me.

Josh:

Dang.

Russell:

And so as I was leaving the office, I grabbed this book. And I picked it up and I was like, "I have no computer, but I've got this." And usually, I bring 20 books just because I know I'm going to read. I just brought one and I was like, "I'm going to do this. I'm going to be forced. I'm on a lake for a week and a half with my kids and all I can do is read this book." So I brought it, got the audiobook, as well. It's funny, I do the same. I listen to the audiobook and I read along so I can listen to it way faster, that way. And I started going through it. It took me a little while. She does such a good job of character development at the very beginning, it took awhile to get into it.

Josh:

Yeah, for sure.

Russell:

And then the story hits and then you're just like ... And you couldn't-

Josh:

It's like thing, after thing, after thing. It's so quick.

Russell:

Oh, yeah. And it got crazy. So for me, it was interesting because I think, if I would've listened to it 10 years ago or read it 10 years ago, I had never experienced any of the things they talk about in this book. Right?

Josh:

Now you don't have to worry about it. Yeah.

Russell:

Even better. I never experienced government regulations and things like that or just those kind of things. And as ClickFunnels has grown from me and Todd to our first member, to our first thousand, 10,000, 100,000 members, 400 ... I don't know how many employees, a lot, 400 plus employees. As it's grown, it's been crazy because you would think all we'd be focusing on here inside ClickFunnels is the next feature in the app, next thing.

Russell:

And there's the year where we had to spend an entire year just refactoring the software for GDPR compliance. We have regulations that come in on taxes and this. It's constant where most of the battles we fight at ClickFunnels right now is not about, how do we make this thing better for the customer? It's, how do we protect our customers from the government? It's crazy. And just so many regulations and things.

Russell:

And so I have been feeling this pressure. Some of you guys may have seen my interview I did with Tony Robbins ... not interview, but Tony Robbins did an intervention with me last year in Fiji.

Josh:

Yeah. That was fascinating, by the way.

Russell:

I'm so glad we captured that. It was a really cool moment in my life, but if you listen in there, I talked about ... He's like, "Well, what do you want to do?" And I was like, "I don't know, but the pressure ... I love the same, so I love everything I'm doing. I love the people we're serving, but there's these other pressures that aren't the game, that aren't the people, that they just get so heavy sometimes where it makes me want to just walk away." And again, as I'm reading this book-

Josh:

You hadn't read the book at the time.

Russell:

I hadn't read it yet.

Josh:

Yeah, okay.

Russell:

As I'm reading this, it's like-

Josh:

Did you know anything about the-

Russell:

I did not know the premise, no.

Josh:

You knew nothing. Okay, okay, okay.

Russell:

I didn't know what Atlas Shrugged meant. I was just like, "Oh, it's Atlas ..." I didn't know ... And it was like, when I read this title, like, "What would you tell Atlas if this was happening? Just shrug." And I was like, "Oh, that's why they called it Atlas Shrugged." And then I remember vividly feeling the pressure of this calling and how heavy it is.

Russell:

And there's so many times I wish, like, "Okay, sometimes it'd be so nice to walk away or to shrug or whatever." And so I instantly, with Dagny's character, I was like ... I feel that with Hank Rearden. I had so much empathy and understood their characters because I feel that so many times. Hank Rearden just wanted to invent his steel and put it out. That's all he cared about, right? For me, funnels are my art. I can't draw, but funnels, that's my art and entrepreneurship. That's my art. And so I just want to do my art. That's it. He just wanted to create steel. And it's all these other things and it's just like, "I just want to do my steel. I just want to do my art. Why do I have to deal with all this other stuff?"

Russell:

And so as I'm reading this, I just had so much empathy for the characters because I felt like I was the characters, even though it was weird because it's railroads and stuff like that and I'm internet, but I think that's why I really got into it. And then I got just curious, what happens? How does this story end? Be I'm in the middle of it. And depending who's listening, you may or may not have felt some of these pressures. As you grow, you feel them.

Russell:

It's interesting. As ClickFunnels has grown, we've talked about the pressure that I feel today would've crushed me five years ago. Right? And so you have to go through this thing where you build capacity to handle the next set of pressure, and build capacity, and build capacity. And nowadays, stuff happens daily that's just like, "Man, that would've destroyed me five years ago."

Russell:

And so I think, if you guys haven't felt that, as you grow, as you continue to try to get your message out and try to grow your businesses, whatever, the bigger you get, the more that pressure comes.

Josh:

Do you think…with that ... And I want to continue that because it's such a good conversation, but with the pressure, the things that are happening now daily that would've wrecked you five years ago or three years ago, whatever it was, do you think it's good, though, that they would've? Is it good that, at the capacity that you understood, that you took those things seriously then or would it have been better for you to just be in this mindset? I know it's not possible, but looking back, if you could snap your fingers and back then would've had the mental capacity to just ignore all those things and go up, would that've been a good thing? Or the fact that you went through all those things, does that help?

Russell:

The going through it is what makes you worthy of the things, right?

Josh:

Being able to…

Russell:

It makes you ready for it. Otherwise, just like lifting weights, if you try to squat 800 pounds, that's what it feels like. Right? Your legs buckle and you die, but because you went through that thing, you're able to have the capacity to hold the weight.

Josh:

Okay.

Russell:

Yeah. So anyways, the thing for me that was the big thing is reading this. And so I was just fascinated because I was like, "This is kind of my story. How does it end?"

Josh:

How long did it take you to get through it?

Russell:

I'd say about two months. I got a lot of it done on the boat, and then I got into biking for a little while, so I was listening to it while I was biking.

Josh:

That's right, I remember that.

Russell:

I just kept biking and biking, like, "One more chapter, one more chapter." I'm in really good shape because of it. It's funny because one of the premises ... And they don't say greed is good, but there's a chapter, I think it's called Greed. And I remember, if you guys have ever seen Wall Street, Gordon Gekko talks about, "Greed is good," and I never understood that premise. Right? In the book, they start talking about that, how greed is what drives this whole thing. Is it called Greed?

Josh:

I'm trying to find it.

Russell:

Utopia of Greed, yeah.

Josh:

And then Anti-Greed. So Utopia of Greed and then Anti-Greed.

Russell:

So what's interesting is ... because all of us are taught that greed is bad, right? That's just, like, you shouldn't be greedy. That's, I think, a principle that's instilled in most of us, but then I think about, for me, when I started this business, why did I start this business? I wanted to make money. That's greed, right? And you think about any of us, we go through a phase in all of our lives that greed is the driving factor. Right? When I wanted to become a good wrestler, I wanted to become a good wrestler. It was greedy. I went and got coaches and spent all my time and it was a very selfish time in my life. Not that it's bad, but it's a very greedy time. Right? Kids, when they're first born ... I love my kids. They are so ... not in a bad way, but they're greedy. It's about them. Right?

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

And it's this growth phase where growth ... You have to be greedy. You're in the growth phase. Right? When you're trying to learn, you're sucking things and you're learning and you're not contributing it. You're just learning, you're growing. And it was interesting because, as I'm going through this, I'm like, the greed is what got me into business. Right? And it's what got these things started and then the byproduct of that is jobs were created and things ... All the byproduct of it is ... I think, in the book, how it justifies it, Hank Rearden going after ... he wanted to build his steel and make a bunch of money, created tens of thousands of jobs and changed the world and changes all these things.

Russell:

And so the premise of the book is that greed is this driving force that gets you moving. And it is. If you think about any aspect of your life, from sports to education, to business, to everything, it starts with greed. Now, we'll go deeper into this. I don't want everyone to think that I'm just into this for the greed, because there's a transition point. We'll talk about it in a minute, but there's a transition point from growth to contribution that happens, but that's in the book where it starts talking about that.

Russell:

And I remember I was on the greenbelt here in Boise, riding my bike with James P. Friel, listening to that chapter. And I was trying to think, "Is this true? Did I get started because of greed?" And it's like, yeah, I didn't start a business because I wanted to change the world. Eventually, that happened, but it wasn't like it was ... Greed was the driving force that moved me forward. I think it moves all of us forward such a long time. And as I was listening as I'm riding my bike, I'm like, "Yes, I understand this," and the other half of me was like ... I started thinking about my spiritual upbringing. Right?

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

I'm very Christian. I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints and I started thinking about Christ and his teachings, which are, honestly, the opposite of that. Right? It's like-

Josh:

Really the polar opposite.

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

Which it's funny, whenever you say that, people are like, "You know, Jesus was a socialist." I hear that a lot. I'm like, "You need to read the Bible." Anyway, but I think a lot-

Russell:

But he definitely is way more liberal leaning, 100%.

Josh:

Right, right. And I think that that's where Republicans, conservative, traditionally on that side of the aisle, fiscally Republicans get into trouble is where we're like, "Yeah, we're Christians, but we also want to get rich," and they never talk about all this other ... People like to use Christianity, I feel like, when it's convenient.

Russell:

We call it cafeteria Christians.

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

They pick and choose the things off the menu they want.

Josh:

Right. And then they go through and do it. So I definitely want to dive further into that, but continue that.

Russell:

Yeah. So that started this question in my head, though, of just, so is greed bad then or is it good or where does it fit in the whole grand scheme of things? Because it is something that's instilled in all of us from birth. Right? When you're born, you're a baby, if you didn't have greed, you would just die. Right? It's me. I need food, I need love, I need shelter. It makes you cry, which creates people coming to you. Greed is a driving force that's instilled in humans from birth, right? When we come here, greed is what helps us survive the first part of our life.

Russell:

And first, I was having this conundrum. I'm just like, "God, is this book evil? I don't know what to do with myself." Right? But all good things in my life that happened happened initially because the seed of greed started me on motion, started me in momentum. And then I started thinking, if you've read the Expert Secrets book, which-

Josh:

If you haven't, come on.

Russell:

If you haven't, you must hate money. Come on. No, but in the beginning of Expert Secrets book, I talk about this concept, as well, where as an expert, there's two phases to go through. The first is a growth phase. Right? I want to be an expert in whatever. You go through and you're a consumer, consuming everything. And that's greed, right? And then there's this transition point where, eventually, you keep trying to grow, grow, grow, grow, trying to learn everything, going there. I'm listening to all the podcasts, I'm reading all the books, I'm growing, growing, growing. And eventually, there's this point. I remember feeling it in multiple parts of my life. In wrestling, I felt it. In business, I felt it where you can't continue ... The ability to grow through consumption slows to almost a halt where you can't continue to grow. Right?

Russell:

I've shared this story. I think I shared it in the book with wrestling. I was a really good wrestler. I was a high school state champ. I took second place in the nation. I was an All-American. And my senior year, I got invited to go to a wrestling camp. My coach was like, "Hey, do you want to come coach wrestling this summer?" And I was like, "Why would I do that? What's in it for me?"

Josh:

Before you go on here, I want to ask you something. So you're riding your bike, wrestling with this whole greed thing. Is this the first time that you've thought about greed in this way?

Russell:

100%.

Josh:

And this is, what, six months ago?

Russell:

Not even that. Maybe four months ago.

Josh:

So you've built most of what ClickFunnels is today and now this is the first time you're really sitting down and wrestling with this idea of greed and is it bad, is it good, what's the balance there and stuff like that?

Russell:

Yeah.

Josh:

That's fascinating.

Russell:

Yeah. It never crossed my mind, really. And then it became this thing where it bothered me because I'm like, "Oh, my gosh. I don't want to be a greedy person." You know what I mean?

Josh:

Right.

Russell:

I'm like, "I don't feel like I am," but I was stuck. I couldn't figure that out. Right? And so I'll rewind to the wrestling story because I think it will set it up.

Josh:

Yep.

Russell:

But my senior year, again, I'd been growing as a wrestler. I was going to camps. I was getting coaching. I was greedy. I was sucking up everyone's brainpower I could and I became a really good wrestler because of it. And then my coach asked me to go coach a wrestling camp. So I say yes, go to the wrestling camp, and I remember he's like, "Okay, I need you to teach ..." My best move… I'm really good at tilts. So for all the wrestlers out there, I'm really good at cheap tilts. And he's like, "Teach these kids how to do a cheap tilt."

Russell:

And I was like, "Okay." So I walk out, there are like 30 kids. I'm like, "Yeah, you do this. You just do it like that." And they all look at me and they go try and they try to do a cheap tilt and they all just fall apart. I'm like, "Are you guys dumb? This is not that hard." I'm like, "Come back in, come back in. No, you did it all wrong. This is how you do it." I show them again, like, "Go do it." They go back out, nobody can do it.

Russell:

And then, all of a sudden, I'm like, "Gosh, they're missing something. What is it?" So I have them come back in and I start breaking down, "Hey, for the move to work, your hips have to be here, your legs have to be here." I start walking through all the things. And as I'm doing that, I start realizing, "Oh, the season why I'm able to do this is because of this," and I started realizing what I was doing as I was teaching people. And as I taught it to people, then the kids started doing it and they got better and better. And all of a sudden, I started realizing, "Oh, my gosh. This move works because of this."

Russell:

And now that I was aware of the situation, now I was able to make these tweaks and stuff on my own. And I realized that, but coaching the kids, that was the next-level growth. It was a shift from selfish greed growth to contribution. So that's why I started coaching camps every year and that's why I went from slowing down my progression to, all of a sudden, it sped back up again by shifting from growth to contribution. Okay?

Russell:

And so I think the same thing happens in business, right? I got in business because that seed of greed is in us. It gets us moving, gets us in the momentum. And some people never get out of that. Some people live their entire lives chasing greed and they die and it's a tragedy, but I think for most people, there's this transition point. And I don't know where it happens. It happens different spots for everyone where, all of a sudden, you realize ... you make the money, you started the business, and you realizing how unfulfilling that is. You're tapping out. You're like, "I'm not growing anymore. I thought I wanted money, but I don't. I want growth. That's what we're here on this planet for, is to grow as humans. Right?

Russell:

You don't get that and, all of a sudden, you realize money's not fulfilling and then you start seeing the other people you're contributing to and you're helping. Then it shifts to ... We hear people talk about, "This is about impact, about growth, it's about helping other people," and that's that transition. That's charity, love. That's pure love of Christ. It's that transition, but greed is the seed that gets us moving, right? And so there's this handoff. It doesn't happen all the time. And are you guys cool if I share scripture stuff? Because-

Josh:

100%.

Russell:

-all this stuff is scriptural. It's not just-

Josh:

They don't get to decide, Russell. I get to decide. It's my podcast. You can talk about whatever.

Russell:

If you hate scripture, just close your ears and go, "Blah, blah, blah." So I wrote down some scripture. This is a scripture because it illustrates this point. I think it's so good.

Josh:

Also, I just want to say, Russell Voxed me and he said that this is the first episode of a podcast that he's ever prepared for. When you said that, I'm like, "Ha! I was the first for something for Russell. Let's go."

Russell:

I want to be ready. Okay. So this is a scripture. It says, "For the natural man is an enemy to God and has been from the fall of Adam and will be forever and ever." I'm going to stop right there. Okay. So natural man is an enemy to God. Why is that? We're born. We have this greed inside of us, so the natural human is the enemy of God because we're chasing after greed. Right? But God gives us that seed because it creates momentum. It creates motion. It creates us doing something. Right?

Russell:

And then it says in here, it says, "For the natural man is an enemy to God and has been from the fall of Adam, will be forever and ever," and then this is the transition point, "unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit." So he's greedy forever, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit and puteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ, the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father."

Russell:

So growth is the seed. It's the natural man. It's the thing we have that's ... It's good, right? God gives it to us because it gets us to do stuff, gets us to learn, gets us to not die in our crib because we need love and attention and to get fed. Right? So then it gets us off our butts, off the couches, us being producers that gets us moving. And if we're not careful, though, the natural man will destroy us. You see so many people who made tons of money and they destroyed themselves in their lives because they don't do that second thing, which is, "Unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit."

Russell:

That's the thing saying this is not about money, this is about the impact. Look at the people you're changing. And it shifts, right? If you make that shift, all of a sudden, now this thing you’re creating is not about greed, it's like, "Oh, my gosh ..." I remember, for ClickFunnels, when I had that transition was when I started seeing Brandon and Kaelin Poulin. I started seeing the ripple effect of their business. And I can name hundreds of people, person, after person, after person.

Russell:

I was like, "This isn't about money. This is about the ripple effect of what we've created in each person's life." Now, that's charity. That's love. Now the mission isn't about money. We don't care about the money. We keep score with money, but that's the mission, is the people's lives and the impact. And I think that's that transition where greed is the thing that gets us moving, but if we don't have that ...

Russell:

I think that's happened in the book. We talked about it. You said this at my house earlier, like, "A lot of people in the book seem like they have a miserable life." And it's like, yeah, because they never yielded to the spirit. They never made that shift. It was all greed to the point where they let everything collapse as opposed to the charity side of things.

Josh:

Yeah. So one of the things about the book ... And I'm sitting on the plane on the way over here and I'm like, "How do I articulate this?" Because that's always the hardest thing. You have this idea in your head and you're like, "How do I get it out and explain it in a way that somebody else can be like, 'Yes, I understand that?'" I'm going to go kind of political here for a second. I'm going to bring it back, too, specifically to the book. So I am pretty vocally a conservative. Right? I'm a blatant Trump supporter, very much so conservative when it comes to everything fiscal, but I call myself a libertarian because I actually think that I lean left on a lot of social issues. I think the government should stay out of gay marriage. Right? There's a lot of things that I lean left on, but when it comes to money and finances and things like that, I lean to the right.

Josh:

But the reason I lean to the right and I typically go with the right is because I like what the left is trying to do in concept. It's like, okay, there's a bunch of people that are really truly in need. I agree. We need to help them. The problem is is that the way they go about doing it, I so radically disagree with it. It's against everything that I stand for. Right? I'm like, it's not that I disagree with what you want to do, it's I disagree with how you want to do it.

Josh:

What's interesting is I feel like, in this book, I feel like it's the opposite. I actually don't agree with why they're doing it. This concept of ... I mean, Hank Rearden says it over and over again, "Everything that I do is for profit." That is it. Even to his friends. He took a bullet for John Galt, right? He gets shot. And John Galt thanks him for it. He goes, "You know I only did it because it's what I wanted to do, right?" Literally saves a guy's life.

Josh:

So it's all about what he wants and only for him and that's it. And it's profit and money and dollars. It's not about everything that he helps. And I'm like, I disagree with that premise, but what that leads to, I actually do like. And I feel like it's flipped compared to the world I'm living in now. Half the stuff that the Democrats ... I hate to… oh I want to go into politics so bad…

Russell:

Left and right.

Josh:

Yeah, the left. Guys, we're going to say left and right. Generalized here, right? Oh, my god, but generally speaking. And so when it comes to the whole greed issue, I'm like ... It's interesting to hear your perspective because I never, even throughout the book, I'm like, "Greed is a bad thing." And hearing your perspective, I'm like, okay, I understand what you're saying, but is it greed or is there some other driving ... If I were to ask you a year ago ... When were you in the heart of ClickFunnels, like a year and a half ago, two years? There was a time of your life when all you ... I know all you do is ClickFunnels, but when-

Russell:

It's the last six years of my life.

Josh:

But you know what I mean? Wasn't there a year or two period in there, in the growth phase, where 100% of everything you do was just ClickFunnels, ClickFunnels, ClickFunnels. It felt like you were going nonstop. It feels like you're a little bit more balanced now. Maybe not, but from the outside perspective looking in, it does. Anyway, during that time of growing ClickFunnels, before you read that, would you have described yourself as greedy?

Russell:

No.

Josh:

What would you have described yourself as? What's the word?

Russell:

I don't know. That's a good question. I was always trying to create stuff. It's art for me, right? So it's like I was trying to create stuff. I think, initially, I was creating for myself as opposed to, "Oh, my gosh. I create this for myself, but look what happens to the people."

Josh:

What point was that shift for you, though?

Russell:

You can see it in my marketing, by the way. And by the way, for those who are greedy capitalists who only care about money, it actually is a better marketing way, too. My marketing went from-

Josh:

For all you greedy capitalists out there, switch to being a contributor, you’ll make more money.

Russell:

Well, think about it. My marketing is always like, "Here's Russell. Here's how much money my funnel made. Here's how much ..." It was me talking about me all the time. And then I realized, "Who cares about me? I don't care about me. Let me show you what this person ... Let me show you all the results of the people we're serving, what's happening there," which first off, is better marketing and, second off, it's that transition where I was literally like, "Everything I've accomplished is stupid. What they're doing, that's the real ... What we're doing, that's the thing that's amazing." Right? That's the spiritual side of it. That's the thing where it's like, the thing that got you into motion now is doing good in the world. And when you start seeing that, it's like, oh, my gosh. That's so much more fulfilling and so much more exciting.

Russell:

And people ask me, "The last six years, why'd you keep getting up? Do you need more money?" I'm like, "No, that's not what keeps me up," but I can tell you 100 stories of people who ... literally the ripple effect of how many lives they've changed because I did my thing. Right? We made a documentary of the Two Comma Club and Jamie Cross has this whole part there where she's bawling her eyes out and she said, "Where would my family be if Russell wouldn't have fulfilled his God-given calling?" And every time I see that, I start bawling, myself. That's why, eventually, you start doing it. Right?

Josh:

But when did that shift happen?

Russell:

I don't know. It wasn't a day that it happened. The energy of it shifted. Right? I don't know. It gradually kind of happened.

Josh:

What's that?

Dave:

Tell them about your dad.

Josh:

Yeah.

Russell:

Dave, come on in. Dave's here. Dave, take the mic. Here.

Dave:

Yeah. No, honestly, I think… this has been one of those things. It's been fun for me to watch Russell from the sidelines here. I think, honestly, it was your dad's 60th birthday.

Josh:

Which was how long ago?

Dave:

I don't even know.

Russell:

Three, four years ago probably.

Dave:

But it was the reflection on that and it was the difference from having your hand raised versus ... because I remember you…

Russell:

Yeah, you want me to tell that story?

Dave:

Russell is a much better storyteller. I'll seed the thought, but I'll let him finish.

Russell:

All right.

Josh:

Oh, thank you Dave.

Russell:

Thank you. Interesting.

Josh:

Guys, we have a live audience here.

Russell:

So yeah, my dad turned 60 and we have our little family reunion every year we do. And so it was during his birthday. And I remember my mom gave him $60, six $10 bills. And so she gave them to him one at a time and said, "Okay, the first decade was one to 10. Tell us something you remember about that." He's like, "I don't remember anything back then." The second one, he's like, "10 to 20, that's when I was a wrestler. It was so much fun for me." And then, 20 to 30, he was like, "Okay, that's when I was starting my business, trying to figure things out and trying to get our family stable." 30 to 40, "That's when my kids were wrestling and I was coaching them." And then 50 to 60, he kind of went through everything.

Russell:

And then, after it was done, I asked him, I said, "Well, Dad, of all the decades, what one was the best for you?" Thinking, in my world, the best was going to be when he was a wrestler because I was like, for me, the greatest part of my life was when I was wrestling. And my dad said, "The greatest decade was when I got to coach you." I forgot that story until Dave said that, but I remember coming back and telling Dave and other people that I always thought the best part was being the all star. For my dad, the best part was coaching other people and seeing their hand raised.

Josh:

That was a good interjection there, Dave. Huh.

Russell:

…which was really cool.

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]]> 2812 no Begin With The End In Mind (Revisited) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/begin-with-the-end-in-mind-revisited It has been a few years since this episode was first released, but I still feel that the message is important today. Enjoy this special episode from the archive! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey what’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets. I mentioned a little while ago how I hired a new coach, and it’s been really, really good. He’s one of the main guys over at The One Thing, his name is Jeff. It’s interesting because I read The One Thing book a while ago and I remember, I think when I read it I didn’t like it. I think at the time we had just launched 12 companies in a year. And I was bitter against it, but everyone kept recommending it to me. That book and the Essentials came out at similar times and everyone was like, “you gotta read them.” So I read them both and I was just like, “They want me to focus on one thing. I hate that idea.” So I kind of didn’t like the books. And fast forward to last week, I just kind of got back into it in the last week. I went and listened to a bunch of podcasts from The One Thing, I started re-reading the book, I got the main dude coaching me Monday mornings and it’s really, really cool. What’s interesting is, since he started coaching me, I’ve had this big epiphany, big aha, big realization inside, and then as I’ve been coaching the inner circle the last two days, I’m watching the people who are leveling up really, really quickly and there’s a consistent theme behind all the people who are growing fast versus who…..everyone’s growing, but the ones who are really quick. It’s interesting thing, it’s funny, the thing that I got in my coaching session was, it came back to Steven R. Covey, 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, which I read back in high school. It was start with the end in mind. It’s been interesting, as I’ve been going through the coaching stuff. Man the first, it feels like it’s been like a month because I move pretty quick on stuff. But the first exercise he had me do was figure out, what is your someday goal? Where do you want to be someday? So it’s not like 5 years from now, or 10 years, like in the future, where is it you really want to go?  It’s been interesting as I’ve kind of done this exercise, I can walk you guys through what it is, but it’s morphed, 3 or 4 times to radically different things and I one of the big aha’s I realized when I went through this exercise is that literally my someday goal, I achieved it like 18 months ago. So the last 18 months I’ve been wandering without really a focus or a goal other than just more, which is interesting. So he’s had me keep focusing, what’s your someday goal? Begin with the end in mind. What are we trying to get to? So I figured out initially, here’s my someday goal, and someday goal can be about your business, you personally, your relationships, your spirituality, whatever you’re trying to figure out for yourself. Then he came back and said, “Okay, what do you have to had accomplished within 5 years to keep you on track for your someday goal?” So I was like, “Okay well, to have that I need to have this in place, these things need to be in place in the next 5 years.” And he came back and said, “Okay, what do you need within a year to be able to hit your 5 year goal? And what do you need by the end of this year to hit your one year goal? And what do you need by the end of this week to hit your yearend goal? Or your month goal?” So as you do this it’s interesting because you start getting more and more clear on all the steps. It was funny because it was like, as I did that, as I identified, had the end in mind, I started going back forward and I got to the things I needed to do. I looked at my to-do list and none of the things on my to-do list actually got me any closer to my someday goal. All the sudden I realized that I’m doing all these to-do’s that are good, they make me feel good, I check off the box, but none of them are actually moving me towards what I’m really wanting. I was like, well what’s the one thing I need to do today that’s going to help me hit my goal for the end of this week, which will hit my goal for the end of the month, blah blah, blah, all the way to the thing. And as I started asking those questions it blew my mind what the one thing was that I needed to focus on. It was not by any stretch what I thought it was going to be, what I assumed was the most important thing. And after this exercise he wanted me to come back and refine it and change things. So I kept getting….my someday goal changed three or four times and I started realizing as I was looking at that, it took me a while to figure it out. In fact, I still don’t know if I have it completely figured out. But the message I want to share with you guys is just that. Beginning with the end in mind. Again, the inner circle members having the most success is because they have a very clear end in mind. What is it they are trying to accomplish? And from there it’s easy to reverse engineer the funnels and make that happen. People who are struggling, they’re building funnels to be able to sell a product or a service, not with the end in mind. Does that make sense? It’s a little intricacy, but it’s interesting. I’ve had this really cool experience over the last two days, to kind of reflect I’m listening to all my entrepreneurs talk and teach and share what they’re doing and really start thinking more and more, what is the end? I need to know really clearly for my business, I need to begin with the end in mind. Or is my goal to get people in Clickfunnels? Is my goal to get people in Two Comma Club Coaching? Is my goal to get people into Inner Circle?  What is the actual end goal? As soon as you identify it, that becomes the end goal and it becomes easy to see, well if that’s it, here are the funnels I need to reverse engineer to get people so that they will come up into that thing. For example, Dean Holland, he’s been in my inner circle for 3 years now. He basically over the last few months shut his entire company down and rebuilt it from the ground up but this time with a definite, very clear end in mind. This is where I’m trying to go. Because of that built out the funnels very simply in order, he launched and in the first 28 days built up $106,000 recurring income. Just because he began with an end in mind. So I think most of us, including me. I’m guilty of this as well, that’s been my big thing for the last 2 days, what’s the end goal. From a business standpoint, from a life standpoint, but also the customer journey, the value ladder. I talk a lot about in the Dotcom Secrets book, this value ladder, taking somebody through. But I would say even my value ladder isn’t completely clearly defined. It’s morphed and changed so much and I’m really coming back now and figuring that out. Dana Derricks when he was doing his presentation he was talking about his big aha. He said that us as creators want to keep creating and creating and creating. He said because of that, “If I look at my value ladder it kind of goes up a little and then it splits off in three different places. Some of those go up and some don’t and it gets really mushy really quick.” He realized he had to clearly define the value ladder. We’re going from here to here to here. So now he’s beginning with the end in mind. And what he said was interesting. It’s was funny because it’s something that I, a recurring thought I’ve had in my mind as well. Okay, I can’t keep creating new stuff that just spurts off my value ladder and shifts people all over the place. If I need to get my creative juices out there and just create something, the things I create need to be on the front end of the value ladder. They should only be free plus shipping or they should only be low ticket things to get somebody in, but the back of the value ladder should never shift, never change. That should be just a thing that’s there. And man, I just resonate with that. I was like, okay I obviously have my value ladder, I’ve got things in place, but I need to really specify this is the path, the process, the order and then just focus on the front end stuff. So it’s exciting. The last thing I wanted to kind of say is, again so many of us start our business like, here’s a product and we start building funnels based on that product. There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s how most people do it. It’s how I’ve done it a lot of times. Because of that, I think we get lost in the weeds of where we’re trying to go and often times we never get there because we don’t know where we’re going. And again, as I’ve been working with my coach on this, which has been really fun. It’s been cool because I’m clearly defining my someday goal, clearly defining the end and then from there I can reverse engineer all the pieces I need to make that happen. I think the same thing is true with funnels. It’s just begin with the end in mind. What’s the top of the value ladder? Where do you really want to take people? Figure that out and then reverse engineer, to do that here are the funnels I need. You got a path and a process. Anyway, it’s exciting. I love it. I love this game. I love my entrepreneurs. I love the inner circle. I love all of you guys. I love Clickfunnels. I’m having the time of my life. And hopefully, also I’m helping. I’m doing my best. It’s funny, I was reading, somebody I care about wrote a really cool post about what we do. And I was reading it and in the comments 3 or 4 people who were like, “I just don’t like Russell. I can’t connect with him. I don’t like his energy. I don’t like…” Whatever. It just kills me. It’s tough because I’m always trying to give and serve and do whatever I can and I hate when I don’t connect with everybody. But that’s okay as well. Hopefully my message gets to you and you’re able to take whatever it is you share out to people. And people connect with you, people I would never connect with. Hopefully you can connect with them and change them. So that’s one of my goals. Hopefully I connect with you and if I do, that’s the key. Take your energy, get out there, share your message with other people and change the world the way you can. Because unfortunately not everyone is always going to like me. And that’s the same for you. Not everyone’s going to like you. But the people who do, they’ll hear your voice and they’ll come to you and you’ll be able to help them and serve them and it’ll make the quality of their life so much better, which in return will make the quality of your life so much better. So that’s all I got tonight you guys. Appreciate you all, see you guys soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Nov 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Begin With The End In Mind (Revisited) full 362 Russell Brunson | YAP Media It has been a few years since this episode was first released, but I still feel that the message is important today. Enjoy this special episode from the archive! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at ... It has been a few years since this episode was first released, but I still feel that the message is important today. Enjoy this special episode from the archive! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey what’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets. I mentioned a little while ago how I hired a new coach, and it’s been really, really good. He’s one of the main guys over at The One Thing, his name is Jeff. It’s interesting because I read The One Thing book a while ago and I remember, I think when I read it I didn’t like it. I think at the time we had just launched 12 companies in a year. And I was bitter against it, but everyone kept recommending it to me. That book and the Essentials came out at similar times and everyone was like, “you gotta read them.” So I read them both and I was just like, “They want me to focus on one thing. I hate that idea.” So I kind of didn’t like the books. And fast forward to last week, I just kind of got back into it in the last week. I went and listened to a bunch of podcasts from The One Thing, I started re-reading the book, I got the main dude coaching me Monday mornings and it’s really, really cool. What’s interesting is, since he started coaching me, I’ve had this big epiphany, big aha, big realization inside, and then as I’ve been coaching the inner circle the last two days, I’m watching the people who are leveling up really, really quickly and there’s a consistent theme behind all the people who are growing fast versus who…..everyone’s growing, but the ones who are really quick. It’s interesting thing, it’s funny, the thing that I got in my coaching session was, it came back to Steven R. Covey, 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, which I read back in high school. It was start with the end in mind. It’s been interesting, as I’ve been going through the coaching stuff. Man the first, it feels like it’s been like a month because I move pretty quick on stuff. But the first exercise he had me do was figure out, what is your someday goal? Where do you want to be someday? So it’s not like 5 years from now, or 10 years, like in the future, where is it you really want to go?  It’s been interesting as I’ve kind of done this exercise, I can walk you guys through what it is, but it’s morphed, 3 or 4 times to radically different things and I one of the big aha’s I realized when I went through this exercise is that literally my someday goal, I achieved it like 18 months ago. So the last 18 months I’ve been wandering without really a focus or a goal other than just more, which is interesting. So he’s had me keep focusing, what’s your someday goal? Begin with the end in mind. What are we trying to get to? So I figured out initially, here’s my someday goal, and someday goal can be about your business, you personally, your relationships, your spirituality, whatever you’re trying to figure out for yourself. Then he came back and said, “Okay, what do you have to had accomplished within 5 years to keep you on track for your someday goal?” So I was like, “Okay well, to have that I need to have this in place, these things need to be in place in the next 5 years.” And he came back and said, “Okay, what do you need within a year to be able to hit your 5 year goal? And what do you need by the end of this year to hit your one year goal? And what do you need by the end of this week to hit your yearend goal? Or your month goal?” So as you do this it’s interesting because you start getting more and more clear on all the steps. It was funny because it was like, as I did that, as I identified, had the end in mind, I started going back forward and I got to the things I needed to do. I looked at my to-do list and none of the things on my to-do list actually got me any closer to my someday goal. All the sudden I realized that I’m doing all these to-do’s that are good, they make me feel good, I check off the box, but none of them are actually moving me towards what I’m really wanting. I was like, well what’s the one thing I need to do today that’s going to help me hit my goal for the end of this week, which will hit my goal for the end of the month, blah blah, blah, all the way to the thing. And as I started asking those questions it blew my mind what the one thing was that I needed to focus on. It was not by any stretch what I thought it was going to be, what I assumed was the most important thing. And after this exercise he wanted me to come back and refine it and change things. So I kept getting….my someday goal changed three or four times and I started realizing as I was looking at that, it took me a while to figure it out. In fact, I still don’t know if I have it completely figured out. But the message I want to share with you guys is just that. Beginning with the end in mind. Again, the inner circle members having the most success is because they have a very clear end in mind. What is it they are trying to accomplish? And from there it’s easy to reverse engineer the funnels and make that happen. People who are struggling, they’re building funnels to be able to sell a product or a service, not with the end in mind. Does that make sense? It’s a little intricacy, but it’s interesting. I’ve had this really cool experience over the last two days, to kind of reflect I’m listening to all my entrepreneurs talk and teach and share what they’re doing and really start thinking more and more, what is the end? I need to know really clearly for my business, I need to begin with the end in mind. Or is my goal to get people in Clickfunnels? Is my goal to get people in Two Comma Club Coaching? Is my goal to get people into Inner Circle?  What is the actual end goal? As soon as you identify it, that becomes the end goal and it becomes easy to see, well if that’s it, here are the funnels I need to reverse engineer to get people so that they will come up into that thing. For example, Dean Holland, he’s been in my inner circle for 3 years now. He basically over the last few months shut his entire company down and rebuilt it from the ground up but this time with a definite, very clear end in mind. This is where I’m trying to go. Because of that built out the funnels very simply in order, he launched and in the first 28 days built up $106,000 recurring income. Just because he began with an end in mind. So I think most of us, including me. I’m guilty of this as well, that’s been my big thing for the last 2 days, what’s the end goal. From a business standpoint, from a life standpoint, but also the customer journey, the value ladder. I talk a lot about in the Dotcom Secrets book, this value ladder, taking somebody through. But I would say even my value ladder isn’t completely clearly defined. It’s morphed and changed so much and I’m really coming back now and figuring that out. Dana Derricks when he was doing his presentation he was talking about his big aha. He said that us as creators want to keep creating and creating and creating. He said because of that, “If I look at my value ladder it kind of goes up a little and then it splits off in three different places. Some of those go up and some don’t and it gets really mushy really quick.” He realized he had to clearly define the value ladder. We’re going from here to here to here. So now he’s beginning with the end in mind. And what he said was interesting. It’s was funny because it’s something that I, a recurring thought I’ve had in my mind as well. Okay, I can’t keep creating new stuff that just spurts off my value ladder and shifts people all over the place. If I need to get my creative juices out there and just create something, the things I create need to be on the front end of the value ladder. They should only be free plus shipping or they should only be low ticket things to get somebody in, but the back of the value ladder should never shift, never change. That should be just a thing that’s there. And man, I just resonate with that. I was like, okay I obviously have my value ladder, I’ve got things in place, but I need to really specify this is the path, the process, the order and then just focus on the front end stuff. So it’s exciting. The last thing I wanted to kind of say is, again so many of us start our business like, here’s a product and we start building funnels based on that product. There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s how most people do it. It’s how I’ve done it a lot of times. Because of that, I think we get lost in the weeds of where we’re trying to go and often times we never get there because we don’t know where we’re going. And again, as I’ve been working with my coach on this, which has been really fun. It’s been cool because I’m clearly defining my someday goal, clearly defining the end and then from there I can reverse engineer all the pieces I need to make that happen. I think the same thing is true with funnels. It’s just begin with the end in mind. What’s the top of the value ladder? Where do you really want to take people? Figure that out and then reverse engineer, to do that here are the funnels I need. You got a path and a process. Anyway, it’s exciting. I love it. I love this game. I love my entrepreneurs. I love the inner circle. I love all of you guys. I love Clickfunnels. I’m having the time of my life. And hopefully, also I’m helping. I’m doing my best. It’s funny, I was reading, somebody I care about wrote a really cool post about what we do. And I was reading it and in the comments 3 or 4 people who were like, “I just don’t like Russell. I can’t connect with him. I don’t like his energy. I don’t like…” Whatever. It just kills me. It’s tough because I’m always trying to give and serve and do whatever I can and I hate when I don’t connect with everybody. But that’s okay as well. Hopefully my message gets to you and you’re able to take whatever it is you share out to people. And people connect with you, people I would never connect with. Hopefully you can connect with them and change them. So that’s one of my goals. Hopefully I connect with you and if I do, that’s the key. Take your energy, get out there, share your message with other people and change the world the way you can. Because unfortunately not everyone is always going to like me. And that’s the same for you. Not everyone’s going to like you. But the people who do, they’ll hear your voice and they’ll come to you and you’ll be able to help them and serve them and it’ll make the quality of their life so much better, which in return will make the quality of your life so much better. So that’s all I got tonight you guys. Appreciate you all, see you guys soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices It has been a few years since this episode was first released, but I still feel that the message is important today. Enjoy this special episode from the archive!

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Hey what’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets.

I mentioned a little while ago how I hired a new coach, and it’s been really, really good. He’s one of the main guys over at The One Thing, his name is Jeff. It’s interesting because I read The One Thing book a while ago and I remember, I think when I read it I didn’t like it. I think at the time we had just launched 12 companies in a year. And I was bitter against it, but everyone kept recommending it to me. That book and the Essentials came out at similar times and everyone was like, “you gotta read them.” So I read them both and I was just like, “They want me to focus on one thing. I hate that idea.”

So I kind of didn’t like the books. And fast forward to last week, I just kind of got back into it in the last week. I went and listened to a bunch of podcasts from The One Thing, I started re-reading the book, I got the main dude coaching me Monday mornings and it’s really, really cool. What’s interesting is, since he started coaching me, I’ve had this big epiphany, big aha, big realization inside, and then as I’ve been coaching the inner circle the last two days, I’m watching the people who are leveling up really, really quickly and there’s a consistent theme behind all the people who are growing fast versus who…..everyone’s growing, but the ones who are really quick.

It’s interesting thing, it’s funny, the thing that I got in my coaching session was, it came back to Steven R. Covey, 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, which I read back in high school. It was start with the end in mind. It’s been interesting, as I’ve been going through the coaching stuff. Man the first, it feels like it’s been like a month because I move pretty quick on stuff. But the first exercise he had me do was figure out, what is your someday goal? Where do you want to be someday? So it’s not like 5 years from now, or 10 years, like in the future, where is it you really want to go?

 It’s been interesting as I’ve kind of done this exercise, I can walk you guys through what it is, but it’s morphed, 3 or 4 times to radically different things and I one of the big aha’s I realized when I went through this exercise is that literally my someday goal, I achieved it like 18 months ago. So the last 18 months I’ve been wandering without really a focus or a goal other than just more, which is interesting.

So he’s had me keep focusing, what’s your someday goal? Begin with the end in mind. What are we trying to get to? So I figured out initially, here’s my someday goal, and someday goal can be about your business, you personally, your relationships, your spirituality, whatever you’re trying to figure out for yourself. Then he came back and said, “Okay, what do you have to had accomplished within 5 years to keep you on track for your someday goal?” So I was like, “Okay well, to have that I need to have this in place, these things need to be in place in the next 5 years.” And he came back and said, “Okay, what do you need within a year to be able to hit your 5 year goal? And what do you need by the end of this year to hit your one year goal? And what do you need by the end of this week to hit your yearend goal? Or your month goal?”

So as you do this it’s interesting because you start getting more and more clear on all the steps. It was funny because it was like, as I did that, as I identified, had the end in mind, I started going back forward and I got to the things I needed to do. I looked at my to-do list and none of the things on my to-do list actually got me any closer to my someday goal.

All the sudden I realized that I’m doing all these to-do’s that are good, they make me feel good, I check off the box, but none of them are actually moving me towards what I’m really wanting. I was like, well what’s the one thing I need to do today that’s going to help me hit my goal for the end of this week, which will hit my goal for the end of the month, blah blah, blah, all the way to the thing. And as I started asking those questions it blew my mind what the one thing was that I needed to focus on. It was not by any stretch what I thought it was going to be, what I assumed was the most important thing.

And after this exercise he wanted me to come back and refine it and change things. So I kept getting….my someday goal changed three or four times and I started realizing as I was looking at that, it took me a while to figure it out. In fact, I still don’t know if I have it completely figured out.

But the message I want to share with you guys is just that. Beginning with the end in mind. Again, the inner circle members having the most success is because they have a very clear end in mind. What is it they are trying to accomplish? And from there it’s easy to reverse engineer the funnels and make that happen. People who are struggling, they’re building funnels to be able to sell a product or a service, not with the end in mind. Does that make sense? It’s a little intricacy, but it’s interesting.

I’ve had this really cool experience over the last two days, to kind of reflect I’m listening to all my entrepreneurs talk and teach and share what they’re doing and really start thinking more and more, what is the end? I need to know really clearly for my business, I need to begin with the end in mind. Or is my goal to get people in Clickfunnels? Is my goal to get people in Two Comma Club Coaching? Is my goal to get people into Inner Circle?  What is the actual end goal?

As soon as you identify it, that becomes the end goal and it becomes easy to see, well if that’s it, here are the funnels I need to reverse engineer to get people so that they will come up into that thing. For example, Dean Holland, he’s been in my inner circle for 3 years now. He basically over the last few months shut his entire company down and rebuilt it from the ground up but this time with a definite, very clear end in mind. This is where I’m trying to go. Because of that built out the funnels very simply in order, he launched and in the first 28 days built up $106,000 recurring income. Just because he began with an end in mind.

So I think most of us, including me. I’m guilty of this as well, that’s been my big thing for the last 2 days, what’s the end goal. From a business standpoint, from a life standpoint, but also the customer journey, the value ladder. I talk a lot about in the Dotcom Secrets book, this value ladder, taking somebody through. But I would say even my value ladder isn’t completely clearly defined. It’s morphed and changed so much and I’m really coming back now and figuring that out.

Dana Derricks when he was doing his presentation he was talking about his big aha. He said that us as creators want to keep creating and creating and creating. He said because of that, “If I look at my value ladder it kind of goes up a little and then it splits off in three different places. Some of those go up and some don’t and it gets really mushy really quick.” He realized he had to clearly define the value ladder. We’re going from here to here to here. So now he’s beginning with the end in mind. And what he said was interesting. It’s was funny because it’s something that I, a recurring thought I’ve had in my mind as well. Okay, I can’t keep creating new stuff that just spurts off my value ladder and shifts people all over the place.

If I need to get my creative juices out there and just create something, the things I create need to be on the front end of the value ladder. They should only be free plus shipping or they should only be low ticket things to get somebody in, but the back of the value ladder should never shift, never change. That should be just a thing that’s there. And man, I just resonate with that. I was like, okay I obviously have my value ladder, I’ve got things in place, but I need to really specify this is the path, the process, the order and then just focus on the front end stuff. So it’s exciting.

The last thing I wanted to kind of say is, again so many of us start our business like, here’s a product and we start building funnels based on that product. There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s how most people do it. It’s how I’ve done it a lot of times. Because of that, I think we get lost in the weeds of where we’re trying to go and often times we never get there because we don’t know where we’re going. And again, as I’ve been working with my coach on this, which has been really fun. It’s been cool because I’m clearly defining my someday goal, clearly defining the end and then from there I can reverse engineer all the pieces I need to make that happen.

I think the same thing is true with funnels. It’s just begin with the end in mind. What’s the top of the value ladder? Where do you really want to take people? Figure that out and then reverse engineer, to do that here are the funnels I need. You got a path and a process. Anyway, it’s exciting. I love it. I love this game. I love my entrepreneurs. I love the inner circle. I love all of you guys. I love Clickfunnels. I’m having the time of my life. And hopefully, also I’m helping. I’m doing my best.

It’s funny, I was reading, somebody I care about wrote a really cool post about what we do. And I was reading it and in the comments 3 or 4 people who were like, “I just don’t like Russell. I can’t connect with him. I don’t like his energy. I don’t like…” Whatever. It just kills me. It’s tough because I’m always trying to give and serve and do whatever I can and I hate when I don’t connect with everybody. But that’s okay as well. Hopefully my message gets to you and you’re able to take whatever it is you share out to people. And people connect with you, people I would never connect with. Hopefully you can connect with them and change them. So that’s one of my goals. Hopefully I connect with you and if I do, that’s the key. Take your energy, get out there, share your message with other people and change the world the way you can.

Because unfortunately not everyone is always going to like me. And that’s the same for you. Not everyone’s going to like you. But the people who do, they’ll hear your voice and they’ll come to you and you’ll be able to help them and serve them and it’ll make the quality of their life so much better, which in return will make the quality of your life so much better. So that’s all I got tonight you guys. Appreciate you all, see you guys soon. Bye.

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]]> 757 no Are You A Tree? Then Change... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/are-you-a-tree-then-change I got a text message from my buddy, who reminded me how easy it is to change our circumstances if we really want to. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about change. Hey everyone, so I'm actually right now in Atlanta, Georgia, or a suburb nearby, hanging out with my co-founder. My favorite people on this planet, Todd Dickerson, who's the genius who built ClickFunnels. And right now we are in a secret retreat away from everybody planning the future of ClickFunnels. And it is good. It is bright. It is exciting. But anyway, we're at his Lake house and looking over the Lake and just hanging out this morning. We had elections a couple of days ago. At the time I'm recording this still chaos, no one knows who's going to win. And I'm not going to talk about that because I don't really want to put brainpower into something I can't control. So I want to focus on things I can control, which is looking at my company, what can I do? How can I make things better? And how can I serve at a higher level? So that's what we've been focusing on. And from those questions come really good conversations. But I actually had something, a text message I got from my buddies, which was really cool. So the way I met this guy, he's actually a jiu jitsu black belt. He lives here in Boise. And I don't know if I told you this story before, but I'm a wrestler. I grew up as a wrestler. I was a good wrestler, was a state champion, I took second place in the country in high school. Started ranking top 10 in college. And I was a good wrestler. And I remember, I always assumed, because I was a good wrestler I could beat almost anyone in fight. Right? So then fast forward, one day I'm on an airplane and flying home. And one of my old wrestling buddies is on the plane. I hadn't seen him in like 10 years. And he was like, "Dude, you should come do jiu jitsu." And he's actually a really big jiu-jitsu fighter now, which is cool, but he was like "You should come to jiu jitsu." I'm like, "I don't know jiu jitsu." He's like, "Dude, it's like wrestling for old fat guys." And I was like, "Sweet. I'm in." And he says "There's a tournament this Friday, you should come to it." So I go to this tournament. The night before, literally we went to a wrestling room we had access to, one of my buddies who I talked into going to the tournament with me, he watched a couple of YouTube videos about how to wrestle cheat or fight jiu jitsu and he tried to teach me a couple of things. The next day we showed up and we were not jiu jitsu fighters, right? So I show up to this tournament and I go out there, and I put my little gi on, and I don't know what I'm doing. And all I know, they taught me is "Hey, if you just take it like wrestling, and if you put your knee on their belly, you get four points." And I was like "Four points? That's so easy." So I just go out there and I was like, boom, double A, the guy I slam him on the ground, put money on his belly and get four points. I'm like, "This is amazing." And I let them go, do it again. And I do it three or four times. I'm just destroying this guy. And all of a sudden he reaches up to my gi, grabs my little collar and he crosses across my neck. And I don't know what's happening. All I know is that the blood to my brain stops going into my brain and this dark circle from the outside ... if anyone's ever been choked out you've seen before. It's like the circle from the outside starts coming in, and the world around you is getting smaller, smaller, until all of the sudden this dark circle is collapsing, collapsing. And everything's about to go out. And then I look up and I see my coach, my buddy, tapping his hand like "Tap you idiot." And I'm like, "Oh," so I tap my hand. The guy lets go of my thing and blood comes back to my brain, the little circle expands again. I can see the world. I was like, "Whoa, that was horrible." Right? So I go to my next match, same thing happens. Take them down, boom, knee on belly, knee on belly, four points. Take them down. Boom, knee on belly, take them down. Reaches up, grabs my thing, and somehow chokes me out. I'm like "This sport sucks." I was like "I hate this." Right? And then after that two matches with gi, and then two matches with no gi, which is basically shorts and a T-shirt, right? So I did that, and I had a little better cause there's no collar for people to choke me out on. Same thing though, I’m beating the guys, beating the guys, and then, for those who know jiu jitsu, twice I took the guy down, got overextended, I didn't know about posture. So I broke posture, guy puts me in a triangle lock, chokes me out twice. I got choked out four times in one day for never doing jiu jitsu. And I still remember all the people that I wrestled, that I did jiu jitsu with, they were all so weak. They were soft. They're all white belts. They're so easy to pick up and slam down, and all this stuff, but they just had the ability to reach up and choke me out. Cause I didn't know what I was doing. Right? And I remember that day being like ... actually this trainer came over to me, one of the coaches came over. He's like "Are you a wrestler?" I'm like, "Yeah. Can you tell?" He's like "Triangle locks are kryptonite for wrestlers. You guys all break posture." I'm like, "Okay." So I get on the mat. I'm like, "All right, I got to learn jiu jitsu." Cause I assumed that anyone ... not everybody, but for the most part, if I met someone on the street I could just beat them all up. Right? And all of the sudden I realized that these little wussy white belts were choking me out. I was like, I don't know what I don't know. And I do not like this feeling. So I have to learn how to not get choked out. So I did what Russell Brunson does, and I did not go to a class. I found out who's the best person in Boise. Called them up, said "Can I take privates with you?" And then twice a week for the next two years I went and did private lessons with this guy. I went into three or four more tournaments, after I learned how to not get choked out it got real easy to beat everybody. Basically white belt level, blue belt level. And it was really fun, did it for two years and then ClickFunnels became ClickFunnels and my free time shrunk. So I haven't done it in a while, but really enjoyed it. So the guy who was my trainer, he's awesome. And after doing jiu jitsu stuff for a while, he ended up getting some other job. I don't know what it was, but I had a sense when I talked to him every once in a while, that he didn't love it. But he was doing it and whatever, right? So then this last week I see him posting on Facebook. He's opening a new restaurant, this new ... I'm not sure exactly what it is, I'm going to go when I get back from Atlanta. But it's a juice place or something, and it's all healthy stuff. And he's a vegetarian I know. So it's all these ... anyway, I'm pumped. I'm excited to go check it out. Right? And I text him like "Dude, did you open a restaurant?" And he texted me back. He said, "Yeah, man." He's like, "I didn't like where I was at. And since I'm not a tree I left." That was his response. At first I started laughing, and then I started thinking how profound that was. And how most people do not look at it that way. Okay? So like he said, "Yeah, I didn't like where I was at." He didn't like his existing circumstances. He's like, "I'm not a tree, so I'm not rooted in and stuck. And so I got up and I left." Right? And I started thinking about me, and you, and all of us. And it's like, how many times are we not happy in our circumstances? And instead, we think we're a tree. We're like, "Well, this is the hand I was dealt." This is the whatever, right? This is where I am right now. And we're frustrated, right? But that's kind of what we do. And I think the lesson here for all of us is, we're not a tree. So if you're not happy, get up and leave. If you're not happy with your job, get up and leave. You're unhappy with your business get up and leave. You're not happy with your customers, change it. Right? I know we know this, it's funny cause I remember ... very first time, if you've read the DotCom Secrets book, I tell this story at the very beginning of the DotCom Secrets book where I woke up one day and I realized I hated my business. I hated the customers I was serving. And I was like, "I wish I had a boss that would fire me." And about that time I remember seeing a video, it was New Year's time. And Tony Robinson's wife, Sage, put out a video. I believe they were in Fiji at the time. And she said, "You know, it's New Year's, and obviously we can all change anytime we want. But for some reason we give ourselves permission during the New Year to change." So I want to give you guys permission, if you're unhappy in a relationship, then change. If you're not happy in business, then change. She named five or six ... not happy with your weight, change. You're not happy with your whatever, change. And I remember thinking, I was like, "Oh my gosh, I could just change." And it was just a thing ... I don't know, we get our heads so much, like "This is the reality, this is what we have to be doing," it's like, "No, you don't actually have to, you could just change." You know? And like my friend Jason said, "I'm not a tree. So I got up and I left," right? If you're not a tree, you have the ability to change. You can get up and you can change your circumstances. And so right now, just in the season of ... I know the last 10 months of 2020 has been hard for everybody. The elections have been hard for everybody. All these things have been hard for everybody. I think that the biggest thing I would say is right now, looking at yourself personally, looking at your family, look at the people you have stewardship over, and saying, "Look, if I don't like this, I can change." And then give yourself the ability to it. Just like my buddy, Jason, like "I wasn't happy and I'm not a tree. So I got up and I left." That's it. You guys can do the same thing as well. Change is possible. You just got to be willing to do it. So remember that, you guys. You're not a tree, you don't have roots going 20 feet down. You can get up and you can leave. And so that's what you should do. But that said, I appreciate you guys all, thanks so much for listening, I hope you enjoyed this episode. Please take a screenshot on your phones, wherever you're listening, and tag me. Post it on Facebook or Insta, and tag me on it. I love seeing those. I love seeing your big takeaways, your ah-ha’s. I appreciate it. Thanks guys so much for listening, and I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Nov 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Are You A Tree? Then Change... full 361 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I got a text message from my buddy, who reminded me how easy it is to change our circumstances if we really want to. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is... I got a text message from my buddy, who reminded me how easy it is to change our circumstances if we really want to. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about change. Hey everyone, so I'm actually right now in Atlanta, Georgia, or a suburb nearby, hanging out with my co-founder. My favorite people on this planet, Todd Dickerson, who's the genius who built ClickFunnels. And right now we are in a secret retreat away from everybody planning the future of ClickFunnels. And it is good. It is bright. It is exciting. But anyway, we're at his Lake house and looking over the Lake and just hanging out this morning. We had elections a couple of days ago. At the time I'm recording this still chaos, no one knows who's going to win. And I'm not going to talk about that because I don't really want to put brainpower into something I can't control. So I want to focus on things I can control, which is looking at my company, what can I do? How can I make things better? And how can I serve at a higher level? So that's what we've been focusing on. And from those questions come really good conversations. But I actually had something, a text message I got from my buddies, which was really cool. So the way I met this guy, he's actually a jiu jitsu black belt. He lives here in Boise. And I don't know if I told you this story before, but I'm a wrestler. I grew up as a wrestler. I was a good wrestler, was a state champion, I took second place in the country in high school. Started ranking top 10 in college. And I was a good wrestler. And I remember, I always assumed, because I was a good wrestler I could beat almost anyone in fight. Right? So then fast forward, one day I'm on an airplane and flying home. And one of my old wrestling buddies is on the plane. I hadn't seen him in like 10 years. And he was like, "Dude, you should come do jiu jitsu." And he's actually a really big jiu-jitsu fighter now, which is cool, but he was like "You should come to jiu jitsu." I'm like, "I don't know jiu jitsu." He's like, "Dude, it's like wrestling for old fat guys." And I was like, "Sweet. I'm in." And he says "There's a tournament this Friday, you should come to it." So I go to this tournament. The night before, literally we went to a wrestling room we had access to, one of my buddies who I talked into going to the tournament with me, he watched a couple of YouTube videos about how to wrestle cheat or fight jiu jitsu and he tried to teach me a couple of things. The next day we showed up and we were not jiu jitsu fighters, right? So I show up to this tournament and I go out there, and I put my little gi on, and I don't know what I'm doing. And all I know, they taught me is "Hey, if you just take it like wrestling, and if you put your knee on their belly, you get four points." And I was like "Four points? That's so easy." So I just go out there and I was like, boom, double A, the guy I slam him on the ground, put money on his belly and get four points. I'm like, "This is amazing." And I let them go, do it again. And I do it three or four times. I'm just destroying this guy. And all of a sudden he reaches up to my gi, grabs my little collar and he crosses across my neck. And I don't know what's happening. All I know is that the blood to my brain stops going into my brain and this dark circle from the outside ... if anyone's ever been choked out you've seen before. It's like the circle from the outside starts coming in, and the world around you is getting smaller, smaller, until all of the sudden this dark circle is collapsing, collapsing. And everything's about to go out. And then I look up and I see my coach, my buddy, tapping his hand like "Tap you idiot." And I'm like, "Oh," so I tap my hand. The guy lets go of my thing and blood comes back to my brain, the little circle expands again. I can see the world. I was like, "Whoa, that was horrible." Right? So I go to my next match, same thing happens. Take them down, boom, knee on belly, knee on belly, four points. Take them down. Boom, knee on belly, take them down. Reaches up, grabs my thing, and somehow chokes me out. I'm like "This sport sucks." I was like "I hate this." Right? And then after that two matches with gi, and then two matches with no gi, which is basically shorts and a T-shirt, right? So I did that, and I had a little better cause there's no collar for people to choke me out on. Same thing though, I’m beating the guys, beating the guys, and then, for those who know jiu jitsu, twice I took the guy down, got overextended, I didn't know about posture. So I broke posture, guy puts me in a triangle lock, chokes me out twice. I got choked out four times in one day for never doing jiu jitsu. And I still remember all the people that I wrestled, that I did jiu jitsu with, they were all so weak. They were soft. They're all white belts. They're so easy to pick up and slam down, and all this stuff, but they just had the ability to reach up and choke me out. Cause I didn't know what I was doing. Right? And I remember that day being like ... actually this trainer came over to me, one of the coaches came over. He's like "Are you a wrestler?" I'm like, "Yeah. Can you tell?" He's like "Triangle locks are kryptonite for wrestlers. You guys all break posture." I'm like, "Okay." So I get on the mat. I'm like, "All right, I got to learn jiu jitsu." Cause I assumed that anyone ... not everybody, but for the most part, if I met someone on the street I could just beat them all up. Right? And all of the sudden I realized that these little wussy white belts were choking me out. I was like, I don't know what I don't know. And I do not like this feeling. So I have to learn how to not get choked out. So I did what Russell Brunson does, and I did not go to a class. I found out who's the best person in Boise. Called them up, said "Can I take privates with you?" And then twice a week for the next two years I went and did private lessons with this guy. I went into three or four more tournaments, after I learned how to not get choked out it got real easy to beat everybody. Basically white belt level, blue belt level. And it was really fun, did it for two years and then ClickFunnels became ClickFunnels and my free time shrunk. So I haven't done it in a while, but really enjoyed it. So the guy who was my trainer, he's awesome. And after doing jiu jitsu stuff for a while, he ended up getting some other job. I don't know what it was, but I had a sense when I talked to him every once in a while, that he didn't love it. But he was doing it and whatever, right? So then this last week I see him posting on Facebook. He's opening a new restaurant, this new ... I'm not sure exactly what it is, I'm going to go when I get back from Atlanta. But it's a juice place or something, and it's all healthy stuff. And he's a vegetarian I know. So it's all these ... anyway, I'm pumped. I'm excited to go check it out. Right? And I text him like "Dude, did you open a restaurant?" And he texted me back. He said, "Yeah, man." He's like, "I didn't like where I was at. And since I'm not a tree I left." That was his response. At first I started laughing, and then I started thinking how profound that was. And how most people do not look at it that way. Okay? So like he said, "Yeah, I didn't like where I was at." He didn't like his existing circumstances. He's like, "I'm not a tree, so I'm not rooted in and stuck. And so I got up and I left." Right? And I started thinking about me, and you, and all of us. And it's like, how many times are we not happy in our circumstances? And instead, we think we're a tree. We're like, "Well, this is the hand I was dealt." This is the whatever, right? This is where I am right now. And we're frustrated, right? But that's kind of what we do. And I think the lesson here for all of us is, we're not a tree. So if you're not happy, get up and leave. If you're not happy with your job, get up and leave. You're unhappy with your business get up and leave. You're not happy with your customers, change it. Right? I know we know this, it's funny cause I remember ... very first time, if you've read the DotCom Secrets book, I tell this story at the very beginning of the DotCom Secrets book where I woke up one day and I realized I hated my business. I hated the customers I was serving. And I was like, "I wish I had a boss that would fire me." And about that time I remember seeing a video, it was New Year's time. And Tony Robinson's wife, Sage, put out a video. I believe they were in Fiji at the time. And she said, "You know, it's New Year's, and obviously we can all change anytime we want. But for some reason we give ourselves permission during the New Year to change." So I want to give you guys permission, if you're unhappy in a relationship, then change. If you're not happy in business, then change. She named five or six ... not happy with your weight, change. You're not happy with your whatever, change. And I remember thinking, I was like, "Oh my gosh, I could just change." And it was just a thing ... I don't know, we get our heads so much, like "This is the reality, this is what we have to be doing," it's like, "No, you don't actually have to, you could just change." You know? And like my friend Jason said, "I'm not a tree. So I got up and I left," right? If you're not a tree, you have the ability to change. You can get up and you can change your circumstances. And so right now, just in the season of ... I know the last 10 months of 2020 has been hard for everybody. The elections have been hard for everybody. All these things have been hard for everybody. I think that the biggest thing I would say is right now, looking at yourself personally, looking at your family, look at the people you have stewardship over, and saying, "Look, if I don't like this, I can change." And then give yourself the ability to it. Just like my buddy, Jason, like "I wasn't happy and I'm not a tree. So I got up and I left." That's it. You guys can do the same thing as well. Change is possible. You just got to be willing to do it. So remember that, you guys. You're not a tree, you don't have roots going 20 feet down. You can get up and you can leave. And so that's what you should do. But that said, I appreciate you guys all, thanks so much for listening, I hope you enjoyed this episode. Please take a screenshot on your phones, wherever you're listening, and tag me. Post it on Facebook or Insta, and tag me on it. I love seeing those. I love seeing your big takeaways, your ah-ha’s. I appreciate it. Thanks guys so much for listening, and I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I got a text message from my buddy, who reminded me how easy it is to change our circumstances if we really want to.

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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I want to talk about change. Hey everyone, so I'm actually right now in Atlanta, Georgia, or a suburb nearby, hanging out with my co-founder. My favorite people on this planet, Todd Dickerson, who's the genius who built ClickFunnels. And right now we are in a secret retreat away from everybody planning the future of ClickFunnels. And it is good. It is bright. It is exciting.

But anyway, we're at his Lake house and looking over the Lake and just hanging out this morning. We had elections a couple of days ago. At the time I'm recording this still chaos, no one knows who's going to win. And I'm not going to talk about that because I don't really want to put brainpower into something I can't control.

So I want to focus on things I can control, which is looking at my company, what can I do? How can I make things better? And how can I serve at a higher level? So that's what we've been focusing on. And from those questions come really good conversations. But I actually had something, a text message I got from my buddies, which was really cool. So the way I met this guy, he's actually a jiu jitsu black belt. He lives here in Boise. And I don't know if I told you this story before, but I'm a wrestler. I grew up as a wrestler. I was a good wrestler, was a state champion, I took second place in the country in high school. Started ranking top 10 in college. And I was a good wrestler.

And I remember, I always assumed, because I was a good wrestler I could beat almost anyone in fight. Right? So then fast forward, one day I'm on an airplane and flying home. And one of my old wrestling buddies is on the plane. I hadn't seen him in like 10 years. And he was like, "Dude, you should come do jiu jitsu." And he's actually a really big jiu-jitsu fighter now, which is cool, but he was like "You should come to jiu jitsu." I'm like, "I don't know jiu jitsu." He's like, "Dude, it's like wrestling for old fat guys." And I was like, "Sweet. I'm in."

And he says "There's a tournament this Friday, you should come to it." So I go to this tournament. The night before, literally we went to a wrestling room we had access to, one of my buddies who I talked into going to the tournament with me, he watched a couple of YouTube videos about how to wrestle cheat or fight jiu jitsu and he tried to teach me a couple of things.

The next day we showed up and we were not jiu jitsu fighters, right? So I show up to this tournament and I go out there, and I put my little gi on, and I don't know what I'm doing. And all I know, they taught me is "Hey, if you just take it like wrestling, and if you put your knee on their belly, you get four points." And I was like "Four points? That's so easy." So I just go out there and I was like, boom, double A, the guy I slam him on the ground, put money on his belly and get four points. I'm like, "This is amazing." And I let them go, do it again. And I do it three or four times. I'm just destroying this guy. And all of a sudden he reaches up to my gi, grabs my little collar and he crosses across my neck. And I don't know what's happening.

All I know is that the blood to my brain stops going into my brain and this dark circle from the outside ... if anyone's ever been choked out you've seen before. It's like the circle from the outside starts coming in, and the world around you is getting smaller, smaller, until all of the sudden this dark circle is collapsing, collapsing. And everything's about to go out. And then I look up and I see my coach, my buddy, tapping his hand like "Tap you idiot." And I'm like, "Oh," so I tap my hand. The guy lets go of my thing and blood comes back to my brain, the little circle expands again. I can see the world. I was like, "Whoa, that was horrible." Right?

So I go to my next match, same thing happens. Take them down, boom, knee on belly, knee on belly, four points. Take them down. Boom, knee on belly, take them down. Reaches up, grabs my thing, and somehow chokes me out. I'm like "This sport sucks." I was like "I hate this." Right? And then after that two matches with gi, and then two matches with no gi, which is basically shorts and a T-shirt, right? So I did that, and I had a little better cause there's no collar for people to choke me out on. Same thing though, I’m beating the guys, beating the guys, and then, for those who know jiu jitsu, twice I took the guy down, got overextended, I didn't know about posture. So I broke posture, guy puts me in a triangle lock, chokes me out twice. I got choked out four times in one day for never doing jiu jitsu.

And I still remember all the people that I wrestled, that I did jiu jitsu with, they were all so weak. They were soft. They're all white belts. They're so easy to pick up and slam down, and all this stuff, but they just had the ability to reach up and choke me out. Cause I didn't know what I was doing. Right? And I remember that day being like ... actually this trainer came over to me, one of the coaches came over. He's like "Are you a wrestler?" I'm like, "Yeah. Can you tell?" He's like "Triangle locks are kryptonite for wrestlers. You guys all break posture." I'm like, "Okay." So I get on the mat. I'm like, "All right, I got to learn jiu jitsu." Cause I assumed that anyone ... not everybody, but for the most part, if I met someone on the street I could just beat them all up. Right? And all of the sudden I realized that these little wussy white belts were choking me out.

I was like, I don't know what I don't know. And I do not like this feeling. So I have to learn how to not get choked out. So I did what Russell Brunson does, and I did not go to a class. I found out who's the best person in Boise. Called them up, said "Can I take privates with you?" And then twice a week for the next two years I went and did private lessons with this guy. I went into three or four more tournaments, after I learned how to not get choked out it got real easy to beat everybody. Basically white belt level, blue belt level. And it was really fun, did it for two years and then ClickFunnels became ClickFunnels and my free time shrunk. So I haven't done it in a while, but really enjoyed it.

So the guy who was my trainer, he's awesome. And after doing jiu jitsu stuff for a while, he ended up getting some other job. I don't know what it was, but I had a sense when I talked to him every once in a while, that he didn't love it. But he was doing it and whatever, right? So then this last week I see him posting on Facebook. He's opening a new restaurant, this new ... I'm not sure exactly what it is, I'm going to go when I get back from Atlanta. But it's a juice place or something, and it's all healthy stuff. And he's a vegetarian I know. So it's all these ... anyway, I'm pumped. I'm excited to go check it out. Right?

And I text him like "Dude, did you open a restaurant?" And he texted me back. He said, "Yeah, man." He's like, "I didn't like where I was at. And since I'm not a tree I left." That was his response. At first I started laughing, and then I started thinking how profound that was. And how most people do not look at it that way. Okay? So like he said, "Yeah, I didn't like where I was at." He didn't like his existing circumstances. He's like, "I'm not a tree, so I'm not rooted in and stuck. And so I got up and I left." Right? And I started thinking about me, and you, and all of us. And it's like, how many times are we not happy in our circumstances? And instead, we think we're a tree. We're like, "Well, this is the hand I was dealt." This is the whatever, right? This is where I am right now. And we're frustrated, right?

But that's kind of what we do. And I think the lesson here for all of us is, we're not a tree. So if you're not happy, get up and leave. If you're not happy with your job, get up and leave. You're unhappy with your business get up and leave. You're not happy with your customers, change it. Right? I know we know this, it's funny cause I remember ... very first time, if you've read the DotCom Secrets book, I tell this story at the very beginning of the DotCom Secrets book where I woke up one day and I realized I hated my business. I hated the customers I was serving. And I was like, "I wish I had a boss that would fire me."

And about that time I remember seeing a video, it was New Year's time. And Tony Robinson's wife, Sage, put out a video. I believe they were in Fiji at the time. And she said, "You know, it's New Year's, and obviously we can all change anytime we want. But for some reason we give ourselves permission during the New Year to change." So I want to give you guys permission, if you're unhappy in a relationship, then change. If you're not happy in business, then change. She named five or six ... not happy with your weight, change. You're not happy with your whatever, change. And I remember thinking, I was like, "Oh my gosh, I could just change." And it was just a thing ... I don't know, we get our heads so much, like "This is the reality, this is what we have to be doing," it's like, "No, you don't actually have to, you could just change."

You know? And like my friend Jason said, "I'm not a tree. So I got up and I left," right? If you're not a tree, you have the ability to change. You can get up and you can change your circumstances. And so right now, just in the season of ... I know the last 10 months of 2020 has been hard for everybody. The elections have been hard for everybody. All these things have been hard for everybody. I think that the biggest thing I would say is right now, looking at yourself personally, looking at your family, look at the people you have stewardship over, and saying, "Look, if I don't like this, I can change." And then give yourself the ability to it. Just like my buddy, Jason, like "I wasn't happy and I'm not a tree. So I got up and I left." That's it.

You guys can do the same thing as well. Change is possible. You just got to be willing to do it. So remember that, you guys. You're not a tree, you don't have roots going 20 feet down. You can get up and you can leave. And so that's what you should do. But that said, I appreciate you guys all, thanks so much for listening, I hope you enjoyed this episode. Please take a screenshot on your phones, wherever you're listening, and tag me. Post it on Facebook or Insta, and tag me on it. I love seeing those. I love seeing your big takeaways, your ah-ha’s. I appreciate it. Thanks guys so much for listening, and I'll talk to you soon.

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]]> 688 no Find Your Framework, Then Your Voice... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/find-your-framework-then-your-voice I want to make an amendment to all my talks about finding your voice. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Nov 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Find Your Framework, Then Your Voice... full 360 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I want to make an amendment to all my talks about finding your voice. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing... I want to make an amendment to all my talks about finding your voice. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I want to make an amendment to all my talks about finding your voice.

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]]> 590 no A Small Shift In Your Environment Can Change Everything https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-small-shift-in-your-environment-can-change-everything I’m in the middle of changing my office. Let me tell you why and what it’s going to hopefully do for me. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. And welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Are you guys pumped for today? I hope you are. I am. I came in the office today and I looked around at my environment and I was like, "These are the same walls, the same everything I've been looking at now for a long time. And I want to make a change." And so that's what happened today. I'm going to tell you why and what it looks like now. All right, everybody. So I'm not going to lie. Today, I came in and I was just frustrated at a lot of things. I was like, "You know what I need? I need a new view of the world." And so I literally came in and I started ripping things off my desk, moving monitors, shifting things around, moving my computers, moving my desk, just getting a whole new perspective on the world. And I'm about halfway through it now that my whole office is a nightmare. It was really clean a few minutes ago, but now it's a nightmare. But I want to share it with you because I remember I had one of my first mentors, Matt Furey, when I was getting into this game. I started studying because I wanted to learn marketing. And then, lo and behold, he was sneaky and started slipping in all this personal development stuff, which was so good for me. But I remember, and I'm probably going to say this wrongly, this is back on an old CD that I bought from him, way back in the day. So I couldn't even re-find this if I wanted to. But the principle, I remember in my head, he talked about just the power. I believe he married someone who is Chinese and so he studies tons of deep Chinese philosophies and principles and things like that. And I remember him talking about any room, there's an energy. There's energy in the room. He's like, "If you want to change the energy, change the room." If you're not feeling the vibe you want or the energy you need to be able to produce or to work or think or whatever, he's like, "Literally just change your desk. Move a plant." It physically changes the energy of the room. Move a picture, move your monitor, move your desk. Just shift things up. I just change things and it'll change the energy of the room and how you produce and how you do everything. I think that the layout of my office has been good. It's been through a lot of wars. I think that I even beat up a lot recently and it's just like, "You know what? I need a change." I looked at everything from different perspective and different ideas. And so that's what I'm doing. And so literally, all these things I was so proud of, I remember four or five years ago I moved into this office, like these big, huge monitors and just all this stuff is just being shredded apart. And I'm move everything, changing everything to change my environment so I can work better. So want you think about for yourself right now. Think about, and this could be any part of your life. It could be your personal life, your business, you whatever. And in fact, it's interesting. There's a book by Ben Hardy called Willpower Doesn't Work. Sorry, this is a squirrel tangent, but it's important. So in the Willpower Doesn't Work he talked about how, you look at how people change things in life. They try to quit smoking, start making more money, all these things. And they have tried willpower. "If I just do this thing for 30 days, it will clear the habit." Or whatever. They're trying to force things through willpower. And I remember the premise of the book is that basically it didn't matter how much willpower you had, you always would relapse back. He said, the only thing that caused sustainable change in people over time was, can you guess? A change of environment. You change the environment, which then makes the habits all easy. And that was the secret, literally moving, physically shifting your body or your environment, changing things around you. So that could be used at a big scale where you're like, "I'm going to move to a different city." That's going to change things. If you're around a bad group of people and it's easy to keep falling in your bad habits, if you literally physically moved to some other state or different place, that could cause the shift in the energy that you need to make the change. Or, if you're like me, sitting in an office where you just need something, physically shifting the things will change the environment which just now makes it easier to have willpower and have the things you need to be able to be successful. So, again, coming back to what I was talking about before, is for you, start thinking about in your personal life and your business and your work environment in your family and your house, wherever. If things are stuck or stagnant, can you just radically shift things around? What would happen if you did that? What would it look like? What would you change? What would you move? And what would be the outcome you're hoping for? I'm hoping for me just to have more energy. I've tried for the last four days to get this project done. I keep coming in and I just can't get it done. I think it's because I'm just stuck in this rut of that I'm just not happy. I need to shift everything. So we shift everything. And now, well, I'll find out a little later on today if I'm able to be in a state where I can get work done. The energy is different, the feeling is different. Now I can start running. And so that's my game plan. So I want to show you guys right now is I'm in the middle of this cleaning. And Michael, I want to stop for a minute because I've been cleaning and moving things for an hour and a half. And I was like, "I need something to break the energy." So I'm going to do it the podcast on this, but I want to give you guys permission to make that change in your home office or say your home bedroom. Move your bed to the other wall. Or, in your office, move the desk to a different wall and get a new computer. Throw your old on away. Rip the wallpaper off the wall. Get a family picture and move it. Whatever it takes, try that and feel the energy of the room change and see how it affects you. And keep doing it until you feel like you're in a spot, in a state where it's like, "Okay, I can get stuff done. I'm actually having success now." All right. This is a short one, but I think you guys got the gist. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. And I'll talk to you soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Nov 2020 09:00:00 -0000 A Small Shift In Your Environment Can Change Everything full 359 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I’m in the middle of changing my office. Let me tell you why and what it’s going to hopefully do for me. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell... I’m in the middle of changing my office. Let me tell you why and what it’s going to hopefully do for me. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. And welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Are you guys pumped for today? I hope you are. I am. I came in the office today and I looked around at my environment and I was like, "These are the same walls, the same everything I've been looking at now for a long time. And I want to make a change." And so that's what happened today. I'm going to tell you why and what it looks like now. All right, everybody. So I'm not going to lie. Today, I came in and I was just frustrated at a lot of things. I was like, "You know what I need? I need a new view of the world." And so I literally came in and I started ripping things off my desk, moving monitors, shifting things around, moving my computers, moving my desk, just getting a whole new perspective on the world. And I'm about halfway through it now that my whole office is a nightmare. It was really clean a few minutes ago, but now it's a nightmare. But I want to share it with you because I remember I had one of my first mentors, Matt Furey, when I was getting into this game. I started studying because I wanted to learn marketing. And then, lo and behold, he was sneaky and started slipping in all this personal development stuff, which was so good for me. But I remember, and I'm probably going to say this wrongly, this is back on an old CD that I bought from him, way back in the day. So I couldn't even re-find this if I wanted to. But the principle, I remember in my head, he talked about just the power. I believe he married someone who is Chinese and so he studies tons of deep Chinese philosophies and principles and things like that. And I remember him talking about any room, there's an energy. There's energy in the room. He's like, "If you want to change the energy, change the room." If you're not feeling the vibe you want or the energy you need to be able to produce or to work or think or whatever, he's like, "Literally just change your desk. Move a plant." It physically changes the energy of the room. Move a picture, move your monitor, move your desk. Just shift things up. I just change things and it'll change the energy of the room and how you produce and how you do everything. I think that the layout of my office has been good. It's been through a lot of wars. I think that I even beat up a lot recently and it's just like, "You know what? I need a change." I looked at everything from different perspective and different ideas. And so that's what I'm doing. And so literally, all these things I was so proud of, I remember four or five years ago I moved into this office, like these big, huge monitors and just all this stuff is just being shredded apart. And I'm move everything, changing everything to change my environment so I can work better. So want you think about for yourself right now. Think about, and this could be any part of your life. It could be your personal life, your business, you whatever. And in fact, it's interesting. There's a book by Ben Hardy called Willpower Doesn't Work. Sorry, this is a squirrel tangent, but it's important. So in the Willpower Doesn't Work he talked about how, you look at how people change things in life. They try to quit smoking, start making more money, all these things. And they have tried willpower. "If I just do this thing for 30 days, it will clear the habit." Or whatever. They're trying to force things through willpower. And I remember the premise of the book is that basically it didn't matter how much willpower you had, you always would relapse back. He said, the only thing that caused sustainable change in people over time was, can you guess? A change of environment. You change the environment, which then makes the habits all easy. And that was the secret, literally moving, physically shifting your body or your environment, changing things around you. So that could be used at a big scale where you're like, "I'm going to move to a different city." That's going to change things. If you're around a bad group of people and it's easy to keep falling in your bad habits, if you literally physically moved to some other state or different place, that could cause the shift in the energy that you need to make the change. Or, if you're like me, sitting in an office where you just need something, physically shifting the things will change the environment which just now makes it easier to have willpower and have the things you need to be able to be successful. So, again, coming back to what I was talking about before, is for you, start thinking about in your personal life and your business and your work environment in your family and your house, wherever. If things are stuck or stagnant, can you just radically shift things around? What would happen if you did that? What would it look like? What would you change? What would you move? And what would be the outcome you're hoping for? I'm hoping for me just to have more energy. I've tried for the last four days to get this project done. I keep coming in and I just can't get it done. I think it's because I'm just stuck in this rut of that I'm just not happy. I need to shift everything. So we shift everything. And now, well, I'll find out a little later on today if I'm able to be in a state where I can get work done. The energy is different, the feeling is different. Now I can start running. And so that's my game plan. So I want to show you guys right now is I'm in the middle of this cleaning. And Michael, I want to stop for a minute because I've been cleaning and moving things for an hour and a half. And I was like, "I need something to break the energy." So I'm going to do it the podcast on this, but I want to give you guys permission to make that change in your home office or say your home bedroom. Move your bed to the other wall. Or, in your office, move the desk to a different wall and get a new computer. Throw your old on away. Rip the wallpaper off the wall. Get a family picture and move it. Whatever it takes, try that and feel the energy of the room change and see how it affects you. And keep doing it until you feel like you're in a spot, in a state where it's like, "Okay, I can get stuff done. I'm actually having success now." All right. This is a short one, but I think you guys got the gist. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. And I'll talk to you soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I’m in the middle of changing my office. Let me tell you why and what it’s going to hopefully do for me.

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---Transcript---

What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. And welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Are you guys pumped for today? I hope you are. I am. I came in the office today and I looked around at my environment and I was like, "These are the same walls, the same everything I've been looking at now for a long time. And I want to make a change." And so that's what happened today. I'm going to tell you why and what it looks like now.

All right, everybody. So I'm not going to lie. Today, I came in and I was just frustrated at a lot of things. I was like, "You know what I need? I need a new view of the world." And so I literally came in and I started ripping things off my desk, moving monitors, shifting things around, moving my computers, moving my desk, just getting a whole new perspective on the world. And I'm about halfway through it now that my whole office is a nightmare. It was really clean a few minutes ago, but now it's a nightmare.

But I want to share it with you because I remember I had one of my first mentors, Matt Furey, when I was getting into this game. I started studying because I wanted to learn marketing. And then, lo and behold, he was sneaky and started slipping in all this personal development stuff, which was so good for me. But I remember, and I'm probably going to say this wrongly, this is back on an old CD that I bought from him, way back in the day. So I couldn't even re-find this if I wanted to. But the principle, I remember in my head, he talked about just the power. I believe he married someone who is Chinese and so he studies tons of deep Chinese philosophies and principles and things like that.

And I remember him talking about any room, there's an energy. There's energy in the room. He's like, "If you want to change the energy, change the room." If you're not feeling the vibe you want or the energy you need to be able to produce or to work or think or whatever, he's like, "Literally just change your desk. Move a plant." It physically changes the energy of the room. Move a picture, move your monitor, move your desk. Just shift things up. I just change things and it'll change the energy of the room and how you produce and how you do everything.

I think that the layout of my office has been good. It's been through a lot of wars. I think that I even beat up a lot recently and it's just like, "You know what? I need a change." I looked at everything from different perspective and different ideas. And so that's what I'm doing. And so literally, all these things I was so proud of, I remember four or five years ago I moved into this office, like these big, huge monitors and just all this stuff is just being shredded apart. And I'm move everything, changing everything to change my environment so I can work better.

So want you think about for yourself right now. Think about, and this could be any part of your life. It could be your personal life, your business, you whatever. And in fact, it's interesting. There's a book by Ben Hardy called Willpower Doesn't Work. Sorry, this is a squirrel tangent, but it's important. So in the Willpower Doesn't Work he talked about how, you look at how people change things in life. They try to quit smoking, start making more money, all these things. And they have tried willpower. "If I just do this thing for 30 days, it will clear the habit." Or whatever. They're trying to force things through willpower.

And I remember the premise of the book is that basically it didn't matter how much willpower you had, you always would relapse back. He said, the only thing that caused sustainable change in people over time was, can you guess? A change of environment. You change the environment, which then makes the habits all easy. And that was the secret, literally moving, physically shifting your body or your environment, changing things around you.

So that could be used at a big scale where you're like, "I'm going to move to a different city." That's going to change things. If you're around a bad group of people and it's easy to keep falling in your bad habits, if you literally physically moved to some other state or different place, that could cause the shift in the energy that you need to make the change. Or, if you're like me, sitting in an office where you just need something, physically shifting the things will change the environment which just now makes it easier to have willpower and have the things you need to be able to be successful.

So, again, coming back to what I was talking about before, is for you, start thinking about in your personal life and your business and your work environment in your family and your house, wherever. If things are stuck or stagnant, can you just radically shift things around? What would happen if you did that? What would it look like? What would you change? What would you move? And what would be the outcome you're hoping for?

I'm hoping for me just to have more energy. I've tried for the last four days to get this project done. I keep coming in and I just can't get it done. I think it's because I'm just stuck in this rut of that I'm just not happy. I need to shift everything. So we shift everything. And now, well, I'll find out a little later on today if I'm able to be in a state where I can get work done. The energy is different, the feeling is different. Now I can start running. And so that's my game plan.

So I want to show you guys right now is I'm in the middle of this cleaning. And Michael, I want to stop for a minute because I've been cleaning and moving things for an hour and a half. And I was like, "I need something to break the energy." So I'm going to do it the podcast on this, but I want to give you guys permission to make that change in your home office or say your home bedroom. Move your bed to the other wall. Or, in your office, move the desk to a different wall and get a new computer. Throw your old on away. Rip the wallpaper off the wall. Get a family picture and move it. Whatever it takes, try that and feel the energy of the room change and see how it affects you. And keep doing it until you feel like you're in a spot, in a state where it's like, "Okay, I can get stuff done. I'm actually having success now."

All right. This is a short one, but I think you guys got the gist. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. And I'll talk to you soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 444 no Let Me Show You The Impact of This One Man's Life https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/let-me-show-you-the-impact-of-this-one-mans-life Recently I had a friend pass away, and I was grateful to be able to visually see the ripple effect that his life had on the world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Nov 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Let Me Show You The Impact of This One Man's Life full 358 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently I had a friend pass away, and I was grateful to be able to visually see the ripple effect that his life had on the world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at  ---Transcript--- Hey, everybody. This... Recently I had a friend pass away, and I was grateful to be able to visually see the ripple effect that his life had on the world. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently I had a friend pass away, and I was grateful to be able to visually see the ripple effect that his life had on the world.

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]]> 733 no INSANE CASE STUDY: Publishing For 365 Days Straight https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/insane-case-study-publishing-for-365-days-straight Here’s a cool case study of a band that performed a concert every single day for a year. Listen to this episode to find out what happened to them and how this relates to you. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. I want to share with you guys what I consider an insane case study that isn't necessarily from the business world, but it's following a business principle that I talked about all the time, and it happened for a little band. So with that said I'm going to cue up the theme song. When I come back I'm going to share with you guys the story about Jim and Sam. All right, so as you guys know I've been talking about publishing for years about the power of it and why we should be publishing daily, and I remember at one of our Two Comma Club X events I made a statement, I said to everyone in the audience, "If you will publish every single day for a year by the end of the year I am convinced you'll be financially free," and I think a lot of people looked at me and said, "Cool." Some people said there's no way, and very few people actually did it. People have and those people insanely enough are having a lot of success right now. So anyways, I still stand by that. You pick where you're going to publish at and do it every single day for a year you should be successful because a couple things are going to happen. Number one, it will give you a chance and give you time to find your voice. And number two, it gives your audience enough time to come and find you, right? And so, that's kind of the reason behind it. And so, what's cool is this morning Brandon Fisher who's one of the guys here on my team that does our all our video stuff he sent me this trailer, and I haven't watched the documentary of it. I watched the trailer this morning, and it was amazing, so I highly recommend it. If you go to wearejimandsam.com you can go and watch the trailer for this documentary called After So Many Days. And so, I didn't know why he sent it to me, so I clicked play, and in this minute and 50 trailer for this documentary it tells a story about a couple, newlyweds named Jim and Sam, who've been trying for a decade to hit it with music. They were playing shows, they were practicing, all sorts of stuff, and for 10 years had no success, and they decided they needed to do something crazy, like we need to figure out a way to make this thing successful. And so, they decided that they were going to do a show every single day for 365 days. Right? And again, I haven't seen the documentary yet. I am so excited to go and watch it, but just from the trailer you see what happens is they go out there and they start doing a show, and some of the shows are next to these guys cutting down trees because they're the only person that will listen to them. Some of them are in these little bars, some of them are just wherever they can find a place to perform a show in front of humans, right? And they start doing this, and they start doing this, and by the end of the trailer they're performing in front of these audiences of tens of thousands of people. And there's this quote at the end of the trailer that was so powerful. In fact, I wrote it down. I just wanted to share it with you. At the end of the trailer he says, "So here we go, making something happen every single day," and then, boom, they start on this journey. Anyway, I wanted to share it with you because, man, so many of us have this dream. We have our art, right? For Jim and Sam it's their band. For you it could be an offer, a product, a coaching program, a book, a course, a CD, a physical product, a service you do. It could be whatever, right? We have this vision, we have our dream, and we go out there and we try to put it out there. But the magic of this, and again, I cannot wait to watch the documentary. It'll probably end up having 10 more episodes. I'm going to be geeking out about this, but the concept of like, all right, if we're going to be successful it's not just going out there and dabbling, or going out there I'm going to read a book, I'm going to go try to whatever. It's like, here we go, making something happen every single day. What are you doing every single day to make your dream come true, right? What is it? Right? And for most of us if we're selling stuff online is publishing. I know Nathan Barry who was the founder of ConvertKit, a great software program, he said the same thing. He's like, "I'm going to write a blog post every single day for a year," and he sat down and he started doing it, and first it was really, really hard, right? But then, he got into the habit of this every day I'm going to sit down I'm going to write 1,000 words, write 1,000 words. Every morning do 1,000 words, 1,000 words, and by the time a year had come up his company had blown up, so many good things happened from it. And so, I think for all of us, man, they just serve as such a good reminder. How do we publish something every single day, right? And so, this is the rallying call, okay? As you guys are going to commit to this and say, "Okay, I'm going to do this." The rallying call is this, "So here we go, making something happen every single day." So what is that for you? What is that level? What's the thing that if you do every single day it's going to change everything for you? You got to figure out exactly what that is and then focus on it and do it consistently every single day for a year. If you do that a couple things happen. Number one, you will find your voice, okay? I guarantee that by the end of performing a show every single day for a year, what happened? They got better. They figure out if people like it, or if people didn't like it. They mastered their craft, right? And the second thing is they're going out and doing this over, and over, and over again. The consistency gave their audience a chance to find them. I talk about it in the Traffic Seekers book as well. I shared one of Nathan Barry's thousand blog posts, or 100 blog, whatever, 365 blog posts he did that year. One of them is called You Have to Endure Long Enough to Get Noticed. And he talked about it, he said you know what's interesting? You think about TV shows, or movies, or documentaries, like how many TV shows did you find out about season four or five, right? So the problem is there's so much content being created all the time that the market, the world, waits to see what's good enough that's going to rise to the top, right? And so, it's testing you. I think for all of us it's like, okay, the universe, God, the market, whoever is testing you to say, do you really want this? How bad do you want it? How bad do you care about your message? Do you care about it enough to blog once a week about it? Do you care about if you're going to blog every day about it? Do you care about that every single day you're going to make something happen? Because if you do, if you are, then you get rewarded. Okay? There's a reason now that I'm still having so much success in my business, right? Despite the ups, and the downs, and all the things I have been doing this now for 18 years. 18 years I've been beating this drum over, and over, and over again. I beat this drum when nobody was listening. I beat this drum when people were angry. I beat this drum when clients were leaving me. I beat this drum and I keep doing it, and doing it, and doing it because I believed in it so much, because I cared about it so much, because I knew the impact it could and would have if I just kept doing it, and kept doing it, and kept doing it. And now, 18 years later, and I'm still learning, I'm still becoming better, I still make tons of stupid mistakes, right? But 18 years later I've found my voice, right? And my audience is finding me, and it'll continue to hopefully continue to grow and keep evolving, but that's definitely what's happening. So hopefully I gave you guys some encouragement. I highly recommend if you want to get motivated just go to wearejimandsam.com and watch the trailer. Like I said, I'm totally going to go watch this documentary. I'm pumped to see it. And again, it's called After So Many Days. That's the name of the documentary. And I'm going to end this podcast with the line that ends the trailer, "So here we go, making something happen every single day." What is that for you? Commit to it, do it, and if you do that again two amazing blessings will come to you. Number one, you'll find your voice, and number two, your audience will find you. Thanks again so much for listening. I appreciate you guys all and I'll talk to you all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 28 Oct 2020 08:00:00 -0000 INSANE CASE STUDY: Publishing For 365 Days Straight full 357 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here’s a cool case study of a band that performed a concert every single day for a year. Listen to this episode to find out what happened to them and how this relates to you. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter... Here’s a cool case study of a band that performed a concert every single day for a year. Listen to this episode to find out what happened to them and how this relates to you. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. I want to share with you guys what I consider an insane case study that isn't necessarily from the business world, but it's following a business principle that I talked about all the time, and it happened for a little band. So with that said I'm going to cue up the theme song. When I come back I'm going to share with you guys the story about Jim and Sam. All right, so as you guys know I've been talking about publishing for years about the power of it and why we should be publishing daily, and I remember at one of our Two Comma Club X events I made a statement, I said to everyone in the audience, "If you will publish every single day for a year by the end of the year I am convinced you'll be financially free," and I think a lot of people looked at me and said, "Cool." Some people said there's no way, and very few people actually did it. People have and those people insanely enough are having a lot of success right now. So anyways, I still stand by that. You pick where you're going to publish at and do it every single day for a year you should be successful because a couple things are going to happen. Number one, it will give you a chance and give you time to find your voice. And number two, it gives your audience enough time to come and find you, right? And so, that's kind of the reason behind it. And so, what's cool is this morning Brandon Fisher who's one of the guys here on my team that does our all our video stuff he sent me this trailer, and I haven't watched the documentary of it. I watched the trailer this morning, and it was amazing, so I highly recommend it. If you go to wearejimandsam.com you can go and watch the trailer for this documentary called After So Many Days. And so, I didn't know why he sent it to me, so I clicked play, and in this minute and 50 trailer for this documentary it tells a story about a couple, newlyweds named Jim and Sam, who've been trying for a decade to hit it with music. They were playing shows, they were practicing, all sorts of stuff, and for 10 years had no success, and they decided they needed to do something crazy, like we need to figure out a way to make this thing successful. And so, they decided that they were going to do a show every single day for 365 days. Right? And again, I haven't seen the documentary yet. I am so excited to go and watch it, but just from the trailer you see what happens is they go out there and they start doing a show, and some of the shows are next to these guys cutting down trees because they're the only person that will listen to them. Some of them are in these little bars, some of them are just wherever they can find a place to perform a show in front of humans, right? And they start doing this, and they start doing this, and by the end of the trailer they're performing in front of these audiences of tens of thousands of people. And there's this quote at the end of the trailer that was so powerful. In fact, I wrote it down. I just wanted to share it with you. At the end of the trailer he says, "So here we go, making something happen every single day," and then, boom, they start on this journey. Anyway, I wanted to share it with you because, man, so many of us have this dream. We have our art, right? For Jim and Sam it's their band. For you it could be an offer, a product, a coaching program, a book, a course, a CD, a physical product, a service you do. It could be whatever, right? We have this vision, we have our dream, and we go out there and we try to put it out there. But the magic of this, and again, I cannot wait to watch the documentary. It'll probably end up having 10 more episodes. I'm going to be geeking out about this, but the concept of like, all right, if we're going to be successful it's not just going out there and dabbling, or going out there I'm going to read a book, I'm going to go try to whatever. It's like, here we go, making something happen every single day. What are you doing every single day to make your dream come true, right? What is it? Right? And for most of us if we're selling stuff online is publishing. I know Nathan Barry who was the founder of ConvertKit, a great software program, he said the same thing. He's like, "I'm going to write a blog post every single day for a year," and he sat down and he started doing it, and first it was really, really hard, right? But then, he got into the habit of this every day I'm going to sit down I'm going to write 1,000 words, write 1,000 words. Every morning do 1,000 words, 1,000 words, and by the time a year had come up his company had blown up, so many good things happened from it. And so, I think for all of us, man, they just serve as such a good reminder. How do we publish something every single day, right? And so, this is the rallying call, okay? As you guys are going to commit to this and say, "Okay, I'm going to do this." The rallying call is this, "So here we go, making something happen every single day." So what is that for you? What is that level? What's the thing that if you do every single day it's going to change everything for you? You got to figure out exactly what that is and then focus on it and do it consistently every single day for a year. If you do that a couple things happen. Number one, you will find your voice, okay? I guarantee that by the end of performing a show every single day for a year, what happened? They got better. They figure out if people like it, or if people didn't like it. They mastered their craft, right? And the second thing is they're going out and doing this over, and over, and over again. The consistency gave their audience a chance to find them. I talk about it in the Traffic Seekers book as well. I shared one of Nathan Barry's thousand blog posts, or 100 blog, whatever, 365 blog posts he did that year. One of them is called You Have to Endure Long Enough to Get Noticed. And he talked about it, he said you know what's interesting? You think about TV shows, or movies, or documentaries, like how many TV shows did you find out about season four or five, right? So the problem is there's so much content being created all the time that the market, the world, waits to see what's good enough that's going to rise to the top, right? And so, it's testing you. I think for all of us it's like, okay, the universe, God, the market, whoever is testing you to say, do you really want this? How bad do you want it? How bad do you care about your message? Do you care about it enough to blog once a week about it? Do you care about if you're going to blog every day about it? Do you care about that every single day you're going to make something happen? Because if you do, if you are, then you get rewarded. Okay? There's a reason now that I'm still having so much success in my business, right? Despite the ups, and the downs, and all the things I have been doing this now for 18 years. 18 years I've been beating this drum over, and over, and over again. I beat this drum when nobody was listening. I beat this drum when people were angry. I beat this drum when clients were leaving me. I beat this drum and I keep doing it, and doing it, and doing it because I believed in it so much, because I cared about it so much, because I knew the impact it could and would have if I just kept doing it, and kept doing it, and kept doing it. And now, 18 years later, and I'm still learning, I'm still becoming better, I still make tons of stupid mistakes, right? But 18 years later I've found my voice, right? And my audience is finding me, and it'll continue to hopefully continue to grow and keep evolving, but that's definitely what's happening. So hopefully I gave you guys some encouragement. I highly recommend if you want to get motivated just go to wearejimandsam.com and watch the trailer. Like I said, I'm totally going to go watch this documentary. I'm pumped to see it. And again, it's called After So Many Days. That's the name of the documentary. And I'm going to end this podcast with the line that ends the trailer, "So here we go, making something happen every single day." What is that for you? Commit to it, do it, and if you do that again two amazing blessings will come to you. Number one, you'll find your voice, and number two, your audience will find you. Thanks again so much for listening. I appreciate you guys all and I'll talk to you all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here’s a cool case study of a band that performed a concert every single day for a year. Listen to this episode to find out what happened to them and how this relates to you.

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Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Seekers Podcast. I want to share with you guys what I consider an insane case study that isn't necessarily from the business world, but it's following a business principle that I talked about all the time, and it happened for a little band.

So with that said I'm going to cue up the theme song. When I come back I'm going to share with you guys the story about Jim and Sam.

All right, so as you guys know I've been talking about publishing for years about the power of it and why we should be publishing daily, and I remember at one of our Two Comma Club X events I made a statement, I said to everyone in the audience, "If you will publish every single day for a year by the end of the year I am convinced you'll be financially free," and I think a lot of people looked at me and said, "Cool." Some people said there's no way, and very few people actually did it.

People have and those people insanely enough are having a lot of success right now. So anyways, I still stand by that. You pick where you're going to publish at and do it every single day for a year you should be successful because a couple things are going to happen. Number one, it will give you a chance and give you time to find your voice. And number two, it gives your audience enough time to come and find you, right?

And so, that's kind of the reason behind it. And so, what's cool is this morning Brandon Fisher who's one of the guys here on my team that does our all our video stuff he sent me this trailer, and I haven't watched the documentary of it. I watched the trailer this morning, and it was amazing, so I highly recommend it. If you go to wearejimandsam.com you can go and watch the trailer for this documentary called After So Many Days.

And so, I didn't know why he sent it to me, so I clicked play, and in this minute and 50 trailer for this documentary it tells a story about a couple, newlyweds named Jim and Sam, who've been trying for a decade to hit it with music. They were playing shows, they were practicing, all sorts of stuff, and for 10 years had no success, and they decided they needed to do something crazy, like we need to figure out a way to make this thing successful.

And so, they decided that they were going to do a show every single day for 365 days. Right? And again, I haven't seen the documentary yet. I am so excited to go and watch it, but just from the trailer you see what happens is they go out there and they start doing a show, and some of the shows are next to these guys cutting down trees because they're the only person that will listen to them. Some of them are in these little bars, some of them are just wherever they can find a place to perform a show in front of humans, right?

And they start doing this, and they start doing this, and by the end of the trailer they're performing in front of these audiences of tens of thousands of people. And there's this quote at the end of the trailer that was so powerful. In fact, I wrote it down. I just wanted to share it with you. At the end of the trailer he says, "So here we go, making something happen every single day," and then, boom, they start on this journey.

Anyway, I wanted to share it with you because, man, so many of us have this dream. We have our art, right? For Jim and Sam it's their band. For you it could be an offer, a product, a coaching program, a book, a course, a CD, a physical product, a service you do. It could be whatever, right? We have this vision, we have our dream, and we go out there and we try to put it out there.

But the magic of this, and again, I cannot wait to watch the documentary. It'll probably end up having 10 more episodes. I'm going to be geeking out about this, but the concept of like, all right, if we're going to be successful it's not just going out there and dabbling, or going out there I'm going to read a book, I'm going to go try to whatever. It's like, here we go, making something happen every single day. What are you doing every single day to make your dream come true, right? What is it? Right?

And for most of us if we're selling stuff online is publishing. I know Nathan Barry who was the founder of ConvertKit, a great software program, he said the same thing. He's like, "I'm going to write a blog post every single day for a year," and he sat down and he started doing it, and first it was really, really hard, right? But then, he got into the habit of this every day I'm going to sit down I'm going to write 1,000 words, write 1,000 words. Every morning do 1,000 words, 1,000 words, and by the time a year had come up his company had blown up, so many good things happened from it.

And so, I think for all of us, man, they just serve as such a good reminder. How do we publish something every single day, right? And so, this is the rallying call, okay? As you guys are going to commit to this and say, "Okay, I'm going to do this." The rallying call is this, "So here we go, making something happen every single day." So what is that for you? What is that level? What's the thing that if you do every single day it's going to change everything for you? You got to figure out exactly what that is and then focus on it and do it consistently every single day for a year.

If you do that a couple things happen. Number one, you will find your voice, okay? I guarantee that by the end of performing a show every single day for a year, what happened? They got better. They figure out if people like it, or if people didn't like it. They mastered their craft, right?

And the second thing is they're going out and doing this over, and over, and over again. The consistency gave their audience a chance to find them. I talk about it in the Traffic Seekers book as well. I shared one of Nathan Barry's thousand blog posts, or 100 blog, whatever, 365 blog posts he did that year. One of them is called You Have to Endure Long Enough to Get Noticed.

And he talked about it, he said you know what's interesting? You think about TV shows, or movies, or documentaries, like how many TV shows did you find out about season four or five, right? So the problem is there's so much content being created all the time that the market, the world, waits to see what's good enough that's going to rise to the top, right? And so, it's testing you. I think for all of us it's like, okay, the universe, God, the market, whoever is testing you to say, do you really want this? How bad do you want it? How bad do you care about your message?

Do you care about it enough to blog once a week about it? Do you care about if you're going to blog every day about it? Do you care about that every single day you're going to make something happen? Because if you do, if you are, then you get rewarded. Okay? There's a reason now that I'm still having so much success in my business, right? Despite the ups, and the downs, and all the things I have been doing this now for 18 years. 18 years I've been beating this drum over, and over, and over again.

I beat this drum when nobody was listening. I beat this drum when people were angry. I beat this drum when clients were leaving me. I beat this drum and I keep doing it, and doing it, and doing it because I believed in it so much, because I cared about it so much, because I knew the impact it could and would have if I just kept doing it, and kept doing it, and kept doing it.

And now, 18 years later, and I'm still learning, I'm still becoming better, I still make tons of stupid mistakes, right? But 18 years later I've found my voice, right? And my audience is finding me, and it'll continue to hopefully continue to grow and keep evolving, but that's definitely what's happening.

So hopefully I gave you guys some encouragement. I highly recommend if you want to get motivated just go to wearejimandsam.com and watch the trailer. Like I said, I'm totally going to go watch this documentary. I'm pumped to see it. And again, it's called After So Many Days. That's the name of the documentary. And I'm going to end this podcast with the line that ends the trailer, "So here we go, making something happen every single day." What is that for you? Commit to it, do it, and if you do that again two amazing blessings will come to you. Number one, you'll find your voice, and number two, your audience will find you.

Thanks again so much for listening. I appreciate you guys all and I'll talk to you all soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 561 no Who Do You Want To Serve When You Grow Up? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/who-do-you-want-to-serve-when-you-grow-up Instead of asking “What do you want to be when you grow up?”, let’s start asking this question instead. On this episode, Russell talks about the importance of considering WHO you want to serve, before you start working on WHAT you are going to provide. Sometimes you might end up wasting time doing a lot of work for something that won’t actually help the people you are called to serve. ---Transcript--- Hey, everybody, hope you guys are doing amazing today. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. In today's episode, I want to rewrite what all of our parents have been telling us for generations upon generations. And hopefully, save me and you and our kids from the same frustration, because if we fix this, I think we'll fix everything else. All right, so, this is my thoughts today, and I hope you don't mind me sharing with you. But inside of our community, we talk about the fact that, I believe, each and every one of us is called to serve a group of people. It's like, for me, I was called to serve entrepreneurs. And so, I figured like, who are the people I'm supposed to serve? They're entrepreneurs. And then it's like, well, there's a lot of entrepreneurs in the world. Who are my entrepreneurs? And so, my entrepreneurs are funnel hackers. And I give them a name and a title and a belief and all that kind of stuff. And it was interesting because as soon as I knew, oh, here's who I serve, these are my people, this is who I'm supposed to serve, then everything else came really easy. Then it was like, well, what do these people need? Well, they need this, they need this, and then, the ideas, the products, the services, the events, the coaching calls, the podcasts. All the things became easy when I first identified, who am I called to serve? And then, giving those people a name. They're my specific people. Because saying, "I serve entrepreneurs," is tough because there's a lot of people serve entrepreneurs. Now, I'm fighting and competing against everybody else. It's like, no, I don't serve all entrepreneurs, I serve my entrepreneurs, my funnel hackers. And so, it's interesting though because I was talking today with some people, and there's a phrase that we hear all the time when we were kids. It's, what do you want to be when you grow up? And people like, "Oh, I want to be a dentist. I want to be a doctor. I want to be a football player. I want to be... " We talked about who we want to be. But you think about how we actually make money, how we actually start businesses, it's not about who we want to be, it's about who we want to serve. It's like this little thing. And so instead of, with our kids asking them, what do you want to be when you grow up? What do you want to be when you grow up? Or asking the kids who just graduated from high school, what do you want to be someday, when you... After college, what do you want to be? I think to ask that question, what do I want to be, sends us on a wrong path. I want to be a dentist. Okay well, how do you be a dentist? Well, you got to go to school here, and you got to go to school here. And then, when all that's said and done, then you become a dentist. And then, you get your dental degree. Now, you're able to clean people's teeth. And then, cool, now, you can clean people's teeth, the question is, who do you serve? And you're like, I don't even know, I'm a dentist, just everybody probably. And it just puts you on this long, long, long, long, long path that before you ever get to the real question, which is, who are you called to serve? I think we should start switching around like, well, who do you want to serve? Who are your people? Who's your tribe? Who's your whatever you want to call it. So looking at that standpoint, it changes everything. It changes how you start looking at this business and starts changing all the different things. And so, my question for you is you're starting this journey, wherever you are is not so much, what do you want to be when you grow up? And I've asked myself that a lot. But it's like, who do you want to serve when you grow up? Who is the group of people that you're the most passionate about? Who is that if you woke up every morning and be like, okay, this is the group I get to serve, it would change everything for you. And then, if you have that and you have that person, then you figure out like, what's your name for that group? Who are your people? Then, all the ideas start flowing easier. I think when I first got started in this business, and I talked about this a little bit in the Dotcom Secrets book, for those who have read it. If you haven't read the new updated version, by the way, please go get it. I promise it's worth getting the new updated one. But I talked about how I started my business. What I was focusing on, I was like, what do I want to create? I was like, I want to create this product and this product. Again, a question, a lot people chase down, but it puts you on a really weird path. I was like, well, I want to create a product that does this. Because I had this idea. I want to create a product that does this. So I started creating these different products. I thought that was the path, I started creating them, and I was selling them. And luckily, I was able to figure out the process, and I started making money. But it was by default, what I created, it attracted a certain audience. And because I didn't ask, who do I want to serve? I just said, what do I want to create? And I create this thing. And then by default, what I created attracted a certain type of people to me. It's like bait. I'm not a fisher, but I went fishing one time. And I remember it was like different bait. If I want to catch... I don't even know the names of the fish, so embarrassing. If I want to catch a big fish, I want to catch a trout or a salmon or whatever, there's different bait. And the bait you throw out, attracts different fish to you. I have no idea if that analogy is actually true, maybe I just made it up. But I think it is. And if not, you guys get the gist. Right? Same thing, the bait you put out into the world attracts different people. And so, because I led with, what's the bait I want to create? What's the idea I have? What's the bait? I started doing that. I started throwing this bait out, not knowing what it's going to attract. And all of a sudden, it's like, "Oh my gosh, it attracted trout." And then, I'm like, "Oh, I actually hate trout or I hate salmon," or whatever your version of that. In the Dotcom Secrets book, I talk about that, how I woke up one day and I was laying in bed and I was like, I wish I had a boss, so that he could fire me because this is miserable. Like, I am not enjoying this experience at all. It was such a bad thing. And so, if you remember the default, what I should do, is I shifted away from what do I want to create? To, who do I want to serve? Who is my dream customer? I wish I would have led with that. I never did. And most people don't. We lead with, what do I want to be when I grow up? What do I want to create? Here's an idea hat. And all those things sent you on a path, but it's not a direct path. The direct path is who do I want to serve, then go find those people and figure out what they actually need, and how they want to be served. Because you come in with a product that people don't actually want, no one's going to buy it. And then, it doesn't work for you. And you're frustrated like, "Oh, this business thing doesn't work. Oh my grade, it didn't work." You don't need to have great ideas. This business is not about being super, hyper creative. That's not going to help you as much as you think it will. Like, "Oh Russell, you're so creative." No, no, no. I'm not that creative. I'm just really good at knowing exactly who I'm serving, and I pay close attention to what they want. That's it, pay attention. That's what the podcast episodes come from. That's where the books come from. That's where the software comes from. All those things are just coming back to, who is my dream customer? Who am I called to serve? And then, how do I serve them? What do they want? Wheat do they need? I pay attention. And then, that's what we create, that's what we go and do. So I want you guys to understand that, because again, I think so many times we look at it wrong. I think instead of asking our kids, what do you want to be when you grow up? We should ask our kids, who do you want to serve when you grow up? Who are the people that get you pumped up? And I just recently finished the Phil Knight's book, Shoe Dog. His people were athletes. He loved athletes. He was an athlete. He wanted to serve athletes. And if you haven't read Shoe Dog yet, by the end of the book, it's really cool. He starts... it might be the epilogue. I was listening to the audio books, I'm not sure... Anyway, but at the end of the book, he starts telling these stories about dinner with Michael Jordan and this guy, and this guy, all these athletes. It's like, he served his athletes at the highest level to the point where the who's who of athletes had him at their weddings, had him at their funerals, had him at all these different things. Because he figured out who he's going to serve, and then, he focused on that. And he built a shoe company and a clothing line and all these things, because he knew exactly who he was serving and how to make the product better than anybody else. I think for you guys, if you come back the same foundational things, like who are you called to serve? Not, what I want to do when I grow up? Not, Oh, I had this idea for a product or, oh, what should I create? It's, no, who do I want to serve? And then, if you come with that in sincere heart, they will tell you, you will see it. Especially online, like you see it in the Facebook posts, the positive and negative. I see it in the comments. Every time I post a podcast, I see the comments, and where I see the lack of comments. I post some episodes, but nobody responds. I'm like, I guess that's not what they needed. Other ones blow up, I'm like, Okay, people like that, I should go deeper on that, let me share more things. I'm using this community texting app where I text out the audience. And I can see what things get response, what things don't. And I pay attention. It's funny, those who have seen me using this texting app. It's a texting platform. It's pretty cool. In fact, let me pause for a moment to insert a tiny around to make sure you are on this texting platform. When I come back, I'll tell you the cool thing I'm doing with it. So as you see, you guys have a chance to text me. And then, the message come to my personal phone, which is pretty cool. And at first, the first week, I was doing really good at answering every message. And then it blew up and it's getting thousands and thousands of people, and I can't keep up. But I do spend about anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes a day, answering as many questions as I can, which has been really fun. So I may be personally answering your question. Hopefully, I will have a chance to. But the cooler thing is that every time I send a message, I can see the responses to that message. And so, every day I look at the day before, I look at the message I sent. And I scroll through and I see what things hit chords, what things people are looking for, things people are complaining about. And it's my market research daily. I get a daily text message from all my dream customers telling me what they want, what they don't want. And even if I don't respond to them all, I read them. And so again, I have my pulse, I feel the pulse of the market. So many times, I get hit inside the ClickFunnels team as well. I think I drive them crazy because they're all planners. They want to plan what's happening, and what emails are going out, the sequences, all sorts of stuff. And I'm like, you don't understand, if we plan ahead of time, we miss the pulse of the market. Everybody asks me, "What's the plans for next year?" The plans for next year is to feel the pulse of the market, see what they want and serve them. That's where we're going. It's not like, "Okay, well, Q2, we're going to do this, Q5, we're going to do this Q 10, next year, we're going to do. It's like, no, no, no, no, pay attention to the market and let them tell you what you do. Yeah, so I drive them crazy because we'll do a campaign and they're like, "Okay, we have 12 emails. Let's try these 12 emails." I'm like, "You can't write them right now." I'm like, "Why not? Let's get ahead of it." I'm like, "Because we have to feel the pulse of the market. What are they saying to us? We need to be shifting our message based on what's happening, with the feedback, the response." If we're not doing that, we're not truly serving our audience. We're trying to write an email sequence. We're trying to create a product. We're trying to do a webinar. I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how this game works." Hey, if you want to be good at this game, it's coming back to the foundation. Who's your dream customer? How can I serve them? Paying attention, watching, listening, and they'll tell you everything they want, which is pretty cool. So I hope that helps, hope that helps shift some of you guys who are struggling. Again for me, I struggled my first five or six years in this business because I was chasing the product or the idea I had, as opposed to the customers I want to serve. And it was crazy for me. And you guys probably heard this part of the story, but when I shifted that, I said, "Okay, no longer am I going to create products that are my good ideas and sell them. I'm going to figure who's my dream customer and figure out what they would want." And I made that mental shift and it was like, what could we create? And the very first product we created was my book, 108 Split Test Winners, which some of you guys have a copy of that book. And what's crazy about that is, I was so scared to create the book. Because I knew that my existing audience, the people who I was serving, I didn't love them. I knew they wouldn't want to buy that book. They weren't going to buy it. And I even tried, I put the book up, I sent email out to my existing customers and none of them came. I sold a few copies. I was like, okay, that sucks, this is my best material. This is stuff that people would die for. And they weren't interested. And I realized that I was serving the wrong customer. And so, what was cool, is that this new thing I created, I created for my dream customer, for the person I wanted to get into my world. I launched it. I put it out there. I started buying ads to it. And then, guess what eventually happened? My dream customers, they heard my voice, and they came to me. And that's how we built the list. And then from there, we built ClickFunnels. And from there, we built the Funnel Hacking Movement And my funnel hackers and everything else we've done. But it all started with, who do we want to serve? And then, what bait do we create to attract that person? And that's how we changed the game. So at least, changed it for me. And if you listen to this, probably for you as well. So hope this helps, hope you enjoy this. If you guys got anything that from this episode, please take a screenshot on your phone, post it on social, tag me on it. And tell me your biggest takeaway. I love to read those. I see them. I read them. And you'll see me, I usually like them, if I see them. Anyway, I appreciate that. Thanks you guys for everything and I'll talk to you guys, all, again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Who Do You Want To Serve When You Grow Up? full 356 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Instead of asking “What do you want to be when you grow up?”, let’s start asking this question instead. Instead of asking “What do you want to be when you grow up?”, let’s start asking this question instead. On this episode, Russell talks about the importance of considering WHO you want to serve, before you start working on WHAT you are going to provide. Sometimes you might end up wasting time doing a lot of work for something that won’t actually help the people you are called to serve. ---Transcript--- Hey, everybody, hope you guys are doing amazing today. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. In today's episode, I want to rewrite what all of our parents have been telling us for generations upon generations. And hopefully, save me and you and our kids from the same frustration, because if we fix this, I think we'll fix everything else. All right, so, this is my thoughts today, and I hope you don't mind me sharing with you. But inside of our community, we talk about the fact that, I believe, each and every one of us is called to serve a group of people. It's like, for me, I was called to serve entrepreneurs. And so, I figured like, who are the people I'm supposed to serve? They're entrepreneurs. And then it's like, well, there's a lot of entrepreneurs in the world. Who are my entrepreneurs? And so, my entrepreneurs are funnel hackers. And I give them a name and a title and a belief and all that kind of stuff. And it was interesting because as soon as I knew, oh, here's who I serve, these are my people, this is who I'm supposed to serve, then everything else came really easy. Then it was like, well, what do these people need? Well, they need this, they need this, and then, the ideas, the products, the services, the events, the coaching calls, the podcasts. All the things became easy when I first identified, who am I called to serve? And then, giving those people a name. They're my specific people. Because saying, "I serve entrepreneurs," is tough because there's a lot of people serve entrepreneurs. Now, I'm fighting and competing against everybody else. It's like, no, I don't serve all entrepreneurs, I serve my entrepreneurs, my funnel hackers. And so, it's interesting though because I was talking today with some people, and there's a phrase that we hear all the time when we were kids. It's, what do you want to be when you grow up? And people like, "Oh, I want to be a dentist. I want to be a doctor. I want to be a football player. I want to be... " We talked about who we want to be. But you think about how we actually make money, how we actually start businesses, it's not about who we want to be, it's about who we want to serve. It's like this little thing. And so instead of, with our kids asking them, what do you want to be when you grow up? What do you want to be when you grow up? Or asking the kids who just graduated from high school, what do you want to be someday, when you... After college, what do you want to be? I think to ask that question, what do I want to be, sends us on a wrong path. I want to be a dentist. Okay well, how do you be a dentist? Well, you got to go to school here, and you got to go to school here. And then, when all that's said and done, then you become a dentist. And then, you get your dental degree. Now, you're able to clean people's teeth. And then, cool, now, you can clean people's teeth, the question is, who do you serve? And you're like, I don't even know, I'm a dentist, just everybody probably. And it just puts you on this long, long, long, long, long path that before you ever get to the real question, which is, who are you called to serve? I think we should start switching around like, well, who do you want to serve? Who are your people? Who's your tribe? Who's your whatever you want to call it. So looking at that standpoint, it changes everything. It changes how you start looking at this business and starts changing all the different things. And so, my question for you is you're starting this journey, wherever you are is not so much, what do you want to be when you grow up? And I've asked myself that a lot. But it's like, who do you want to serve when you grow up? Who is the group of people that you're the most passionate about? Who is that if you woke up every morning and be like, okay, this is the group I get to serve, it would change everything for you. And then, if you have that and you have that person, then you figure out like, what's your name for that group? Who are your people? Then, all the ideas start flowing easier. I think when I first got started in this business, and I talked about this a little bit in the Dotcom Secrets book, for those who have read it. If you haven't read the new updated version, by the way, please go get it. I promise it's worth getting the new updated one. But I talked about how I started my business. What I was focusing on, I was like, what do I want to create? I was like, I want to create this product and this product. Again, a question, a lot people chase down, but it puts you on a really weird path. I was like, well, I want to create a product that does this. Because I had this idea. I want to create a product that does this. So I started creating these different products. I thought that was the path, I started creating them, and I was selling them. And luckily, I was able to figure out the process, and I started making money. But it was by default, what I created, it attracted a certain audience. And because I didn't ask, who do I want to serve? I just said, what do I want to create? And I create this thing. And then by default, what I created attracted a certain type of people to me. It's like bait. I'm not a fisher, but I went fishing one time. And I remember it was like different bait. If I want to catch... I don't even know the names of the fish, so embarrassing. If I want to catch a big fish, I want to catch a trout or a salmon or whatever, there's different bait. And the bait you throw out, attracts different fish to you. I have no idea if that analogy is actually true, maybe I just made it up. But I think it is. And if not, you guys get the gist. Right? Same thing, the bait you put out into the world attracts different people. And so, because I led with, what's the bait I want to create? What's the idea I have? What's the bait? I started doing that. I started throwing this bait out, not knowing what it's going to attract. And all of a sudden, it's like, "Oh my gosh, it attracted trout." And then, I'm like, "Oh, I actually hate trout or I hate salmon," or whatever your version of that. In the Dotcom Secrets book, I talk about that, how I woke up one day and I was laying in bed and I was like, I wish I had a boss, so that he could fire me because this is miserable. Like, I am not enjoying this experience at all. It was such a bad thing. And so, if you remember the default, what I should do, is I shifted away from what do I want to create? To, who do I want to serve? Who is my dream customer? I wish I would have led with that. I never did. And most people don't. We lead with, what do I want to be when I grow up? What do I want to create? Here's an idea hat. And all those things sent you on a path, but it's not a direct path. The direct path is who do I want to serve, then go find those people and figure out what they actually need, and how they want to be served. Because you come in with a product that people don't actually want, no one's going to buy it. And then, it doesn't work for you. And you're frustrated like, "Oh, this business thing doesn't work. Oh my grade, it didn't work." You don't need to have great ideas. This business is not about being super, hyper creative. That's not going to help you as much as you think it will. Like, "Oh Russell, you're so creative." No, no, no. I'm not that creative. I'm just really good at knowing exactly who I'm serving, and I pay close attention to what they want. That's it, pay attention. That's what the podcast episodes come from. That's where the books come from. That's where the software comes from. All those things are just coming back to, who is my dream customer? Who am I called to serve? And then, how do I serve them? What do they want? Wheat do they need? I pay attention. And then, that's what we create, that's what we go and do. So I want you guys to understand that, because again, I think so many times we look at it wrong. I think instead of asking our kids, what do you want to be when you grow up? We should ask our kids, who do you want to serve when you grow up? Who are the people that get you pumped up? And I just recently finished the Phil Knight's book, Shoe Dog. His people were athletes. He loved athletes. He was an athlete. He wanted to serve athletes. And if you haven't read Shoe Dog yet, by the end of the book, it's really cool. He starts... it might be the epilogue. I was listening to the audio books, I'm not sure... Anyway, but at the end of the book, he starts telling these stories about dinner with Michael Jordan and this guy, and this guy, all these athletes. It's like, he served his athletes at the highest level to the point where the who's who of athletes had him at their weddings, had him at their funerals, had him at all these different things. Because he figured out who he's going to serve, and then, he focused on that. And he built a shoe company and a clothing line and all these things, because he knew exactly who he was serving and how to make the product better than anybody else. I think for you guys, if you come back the same foundational things, like who are you called to serve? Not, what I want to do when I grow up? Not, Oh, I had this idea for a product or, oh, what should I create? It's, no, who do I want to serve? And then, if you come with that in sincere heart, they will tell you, you will see it. Especially online, like you see it in the Facebook posts, the positive and negative. I see it in the comments. Every time I post a podcast, I see the comments, and where I see the lack of comments. I post some episodes, but nobody responds. I'm like, I guess that's not what they needed. Other ones blow up, I'm like, Okay, people like that, I should go deeper on that, let me share more things. I'm using this community texting app where I text out the audience. And I can see what things get response, what things don't. And I pay attention. It's funny, those who have seen me using this texting app. It's a texting platform. It's pretty cool. In fact, let me pause for a moment to insert a tiny around to make sure you are on this texting platform. When I come back, I'll tell you the cool thing I'm doing with it. So as you see, you guys have a chance to text me. And then, the message come to my personal phone, which is pretty cool. And at first, the first week, I was doing really good at answering every message. And then it blew up and it's getting thousands and thousands of people, and I can't keep up. But I do spend about anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes a day, answering as many questions as I can, which has been really fun. So I may be personally answering your question. Hopefully, I will have a chance to. But the cooler thing is that every time I send a message, I can see the responses to that message. And so, every day I look at the day before, I look at the message I sent. And I scroll through and I see what things hit chords, what things people are looking for, things people are complaining about. And it's my market research daily. I get a daily text message from all my dream customers telling me what they want, what they don't want. And even if I don't respond to them all, I read them. And so again, I have my pulse, I feel the pulse of the market. So many times, I get hit inside the ClickFunnels team as well. I think I drive them crazy because they're all planners. They want to plan what's happening, and what emails are going out, the sequences, all sorts of stuff. And I'm like, you don't understand, if we plan ahead of time, we miss the pulse of the market. Everybody asks me, "What's the plans for next year?" The plans for next year is to feel the pulse of the market, see what they want and serve them. That's where we're going. It's not like, "Okay, well, Q2, we're going to do this, Q5, we're going to do this Q 10, next year, we're going to do. It's like, no, no, no, no, pay attention to the market and let them tell you what you do. Yeah, so I drive them crazy because we'll do a campaign and they're like, "Okay, we have 12 emails. Let's try these 12 emails." I'm like, "You can't write them right now." I'm like, "Why not? Let's get ahead of it." I'm like, "Because we have to feel the pulse of the market. What are they saying to us? We need to be shifting our message based on what's happening, with the feedback, the response." If we're not doing that, we're not truly serving our audience. We're trying to write an email sequence. We're trying to create a product. We're trying to do a webinar. I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how this game works." Hey, if you want to be good at this game, it's coming back to the foundation. Who's your dream customer? How can I serve them? Paying attention, watching, listening, and they'll tell you everything they want, which is pretty cool. So I hope that helps, hope that helps shift some of you guys who are struggling. Again for me, I struggled my first five or six years in this business because I was chasing the product or the idea I had, as opposed to the customers I want to serve. And it was crazy for me. And you guys probably heard this part of the story, but when I shifted that, I said, "Okay, no longer am I going to create products that are my good ideas and sell them. I'm going to figure who's my dream customer and figure out what they would want." And I made that mental shift and it was like, what could we create? And the very first product we created was my book, 108 Split Test Winners, which some of you guys have a copy of that book. And what's crazy about that is, I was so scared to create the book. Because I knew that my existing audience, the people who I was serving, I didn't love them. I knew they wouldn't want to buy that book. They weren't going to buy it. And I even tried, I put the book up, I sent email out to my existing customers and none of them came. I sold a few copies. I was like, okay, that sucks, this is my best material. This is stuff that people would die for. And they weren't interested. And I realized that I was serving the wrong customer. And so, what was cool, is that this new thing I created, I created for my dream customer, for the person I wanted to get into my world. I launched it. I put it out there. I started buying ads to it. And then, guess what eventually happened? My dream customers, they heard my voice, and they came to me. And that's how we built the list. And then from there, we built ClickFunnels. And from there, we built the Funnel Hacking Movement And my funnel hackers and everything else we've done. But it all started with, who do we want to serve? And then, what bait do we create to attract that person? And that's how we changed the game. So at least, changed it for me. And if you listen to this, probably for you as well. So hope this helps, hope you enjoy this. If you guys got anything that from this episode, please take a screenshot on your phone, post it on social, tag me on it. And tell me your biggest takeaway. I love to read those. I see them. I read them. And you'll see me, I usually like them, if I see them. Anyway, I appreciate that. Thanks you guys for everything and I'll talk to you guys, all, again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Instead of asking “What do you want to be when you grow up?”, let’s start asking this question instead.

On this episode, Russell talks about the importance of considering WHO you want to serve, before you start working on WHAT you are going to provide. Sometimes you might end up wasting time doing a lot of work for something that won’t actually help the people you are called to serve.

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Hey, everybody, hope you guys are doing amazing today. It's Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. In today's episode, I want to rewrite what all of our parents have been telling us for generations upon generations. And hopefully, save me and you and our kids from the same frustration, because if we fix this, I think we'll fix everything else.

All right, so, this is my thoughts today, and I hope you don't mind me sharing with you. But inside of our community, we talk about the fact that, I believe, each and every one of us is called to serve a group of people. It's like, for me, I was called to serve entrepreneurs. And so, I figured like, who are the people I'm supposed to serve? They're entrepreneurs. And then it's like, well, there's a lot of entrepreneurs in the world. Who are my entrepreneurs? And so, my entrepreneurs are funnel hackers. And I give them a name and a title and a belief and all that kind of stuff.

And it was interesting because as soon as I knew, oh, here's who I serve, these are my people, this is who I'm supposed to serve, then everything else came really easy. Then it was like, well, what do these people need? Well, they need this, they need this, and then, the ideas, the products, the services, the events, the coaching calls, the podcasts. All the things became easy when I first identified, who am I called to serve? And then, giving those people a name. They're my specific people. Because saying, "I serve entrepreneurs," is tough because there's a lot of people serve entrepreneurs. Now, I'm fighting and competing against everybody else. It's like, no, I don't serve all entrepreneurs, I serve my entrepreneurs, my funnel hackers.

And so, it's interesting though because I was talking today with some people, and there's a phrase that we hear all the time when we were kids. It's, what do you want to be when you grow up? And people like, "Oh, I want to be a dentist. I want to be a doctor. I want to be a football player. I want to be... " We talked about who we want to be. But you think about how we actually make money, how we actually start businesses, it's not about who we want to be, it's about who we want to serve. It's like this little thing.

And so instead of, with our kids asking them, what do you want to be when you grow up? What do you want to be when you grow up? Or asking the kids who just graduated from high school, what do you want to be someday, when you... After college, what do you want to be? I think to ask that question, what do I want to be, sends us on a wrong path. I want to be a dentist. Okay well, how do you be a dentist? Well, you got to go to school here, and you got to go to school here. And then, when all that's said and done, then you become a dentist. And then, you get your dental degree. Now, you're able to clean people's teeth. And then, cool, now, you can clean people's teeth, the question is, who do you serve? And you're like, I don't even know, I'm a dentist, just everybody probably. And it just puts you on this long, long, long, long, long path that before you ever get to the real question, which is, who are you called to serve? I think we should start switching around like, well, who do you want to serve? Who are your people? Who's your tribe? Who's your whatever you want to call it.

So looking at that standpoint, it changes everything. It changes how you start looking at this business and starts changing all the different things. And so, my question for you is you're starting this journey, wherever you are is not so much, what do you want to be when you grow up? And I've asked myself that a lot. But it's like, who do you want to serve when you grow up? Who is the group of people that you're the most passionate about? Who is that if you woke up every morning and be like, okay, this is the group I get to serve, it would change everything for you. And then, if you have that and you have that person, then you figure out like, what's your name for that group? Who are your people? Then, all the ideas start flowing easier.

I think when I first got started in this business, and I talked about this a little bit in the Dotcom Secrets book, for those who have read it. If you haven't read the new updated version, by the way, please go get it. I promise it's worth getting the new updated one. But I talked about how I started my business. What I was focusing on, I was like, what do I want to create? I was like, I want to create this product and this product. Again, a question, a lot people chase down, but it puts you on a really weird path. I was like, well, I want to create a product that does this. Because I had this idea. I want to create a product that does this. So I started creating these different products. I thought that was the path, I started creating them, and I was selling them. And luckily, I was able to figure out the process, and I started making money.

But it was by default, what I created, it attracted a certain audience. And because I didn't ask, who do I want to serve? I just said, what do I want to create? And I create this thing. And then by default, what I created attracted a certain type of people to me. It's like bait. I'm not a fisher, but I went fishing one time. And I remember it was like different bait. If I want to catch... I don't even know the names of the fish, so embarrassing. If I want to catch a big fish, I want to catch a trout or a salmon or whatever, there's different bait. And the bait you throw out, attracts different fish to you.

I have no idea if that analogy is actually true, maybe I just made it up. But I think it is. And if not, you guys get the gist. Right? Same thing, the bait you put out into the world attracts different people. And so, because I led with, what's the bait I want to create? What's the idea I have? What's the bait? I started doing that. I started throwing this bait out, not knowing what it's going to attract. And all of a sudden, it's like, "Oh my gosh, it attracted trout." And then, I'm like, "Oh, I actually hate trout or I hate salmon," or whatever your version of that.

In the Dotcom Secrets book, I talk about that, how I woke up one day and I was laying in bed and I was like, I wish I had a boss, so that he could fire me because this is miserable. Like, I am not enjoying this experience at all. It was such a bad thing. And so, if you remember the default, what I should do, is I shifted away from what do I want to create? To, who do I want to serve? Who is my dream customer? I wish I would have led with that. I never did. And most people don't. We lead with, what do I want to be when I grow up? What do I want to create? Here's an idea hat. And all those things sent you on a path, but it's not a direct path.

The direct path is who do I want to serve, then go find those people and figure out what they actually need, and how they want to be served. Because you come in with a product that people don't actually want, no one's going to buy it. And then, it doesn't work for you. And you're frustrated like, "Oh, this business thing doesn't work. Oh my grade, it didn't work." You don't need to have great ideas. This business is not about being super, hyper creative. That's not going to help you as much as you think it will. Like, "Oh Russell, you're so creative." No, no, no. I'm not that creative. I'm just really good at knowing exactly who I'm serving, and I pay close attention to what they want. That's it, pay attention. That's what the podcast episodes come from. That's where the books come from. That's where the software comes from. All those things are just coming back to, who is my dream customer? Who am I called to serve? And then, how do I serve them? What do they want? Wheat do they need? I pay attention. And then, that's what we create, that's what we go and do.

So I want you guys to understand that, because again, I think so many times we look at it wrong. I think instead of asking our kids, what do you want to be when you grow up? We should ask our kids, who do you want to serve when you grow up? Who are the people that get you pumped up? And I just recently finished the Phil Knight's book, Shoe Dog. His people were athletes. He loved athletes. He was an athlete. He wanted to serve athletes. And if you haven't read Shoe Dog yet, by the end of the book, it's really cool. He starts... it might be the epilogue. I was listening to the audio books, I'm not sure... Anyway, but at the end of the book, he starts telling these stories about dinner with Michael Jordan and this guy, and this guy, all these athletes. It's like, he served his athletes at the highest level to the point where the who's who of athletes had him at their weddings, had him at their funerals, had him at all these different things. Because he figured out who he's going to serve, and then, he focused on that. And he built a shoe company and a clothing line and all these things, because he knew exactly who he was serving and how to make the product better than anybody else.

I think for you guys, if you come back the same foundational things, like who are you called to serve? Not, what I want to do when I grow up? Not, Oh, I had this idea for a product or, oh, what should I create? It's, no, who do I want to serve? And then, if you come with that in sincere heart, they will tell you, you will see it. Especially online, like you see it in the Facebook posts, the positive and negative. I see it in the comments. Every time I post a podcast, I see the comments, and where I see the lack of comments. I post some episodes, but nobody responds. I'm like, I guess that's not what they needed. Other ones blow up, I'm like, Okay, people like that, I should go deeper on that, let me share more things. I'm using this community texting app where I text out the audience. And I can see what things get response, what things don't. And I pay attention.

It's funny, those who have seen me using this texting app. It's a texting platform. It's pretty cool. In fact, let me pause for a moment to insert a tiny around to make sure you are on this texting platform. When I come back, I'll tell you the cool thing I'm doing with it.

So as you see, you guys have a chance to text me. And then, the message come to my personal phone, which is pretty cool. And at first, the first week, I was doing really good at answering every message. And then it blew up and it's getting thousands and thousands of people, and I can't keep up. But I do spend about anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes a day, answering as many questions as I can, which has been really fun. So I may be personally answering your question. Hopefully, I will have a chance to. But the cooler thing is that every time I send a message, I can see the responses to that message. And so, every day I look at the day before, I look at the message I sent. And I scroll through and I see what things hit chords, what things people are looking for, things people are complaining about.

And it's my market research daily. I get a daily text message from all my dream customers telling me what they want, what they don't want. And even if I don't respond to them all, I read them. And so again, I have my pulse, I feel the pulse of the market. So many times, I get hit inside the ClickFunnels team as well. I think I drive them crazy because they're all planners. They want to plan what's happening, and what emails are going out, the sequences, all sorts of stuff. And I'm like, you don't understand, if we plan ahead of time, we miss the pulse of the market. Everybody asks me, "What's the plans for next year?" The plans for next year is to feel the pulse of the market, see what they want and serve them. That's where we're going. It's not like, "Okay, well, Q2, we're going to do this, Q5, we're going to do this Q 10, next year, we're going to do. It's like, no, no, no, no, pay attention to the market and let them tell you what you do.

Yeah, so I drive them crazy because we'll do a campaign and they're like, "Okay, we have 12 emails. Let's try these 12 emails." I'm like, "You can't write them right now." I'm like, "Why not? Let's get ahead of it." I'm like, "Because we have to feel the pulse of the market. What are they saying to us? We need to be shifting our message based on what's happening, with the feedback, the response." If we're not doing that, we're not truly serving our audience. We're trying to write an email sequence. We're trying to create a product. We're trying to do a webinar. I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how this game works." Hey, if you want to be good at this game, it's coming back to the foundation. Who's your dream customer? How can I serve them? Paying attention, watching, listening, and they'll tell you everything they want, which is pretty cool.

So I hope that helps, hope that helps shift some of you guys who are struggling. Again for me, I struggled my first five or six years in this business because I was chasing the product or the idea I had, as opposed to the customers I want to serve. And it was crazy for me. And you guys probably heard this part of the story, but when I shifted that, I said, "Okay, no longer am I going to create products that are my good ideas and sell them. I'm going to figure who's my dream customer and figure out what they would want." And I made that mental shift and it was like, what could we create? And the very first product we created was my book, 108 Split Test Winners, which some of you guys have a copy of that book. And what's crazy about that is, I was so scared to create the book. Because I knew that my existing audience, the people who I was serving, I didn't love them. I knew they wouldn't want to buy that book. They weren't going to buy it. And I even tried, I put the book up, I sent email out to my existing customers and none of them came. I sold a few copies. I was like, okay, that sucks, this is my best material. This is stuff that people would die for. And they weren't interested. And I realized that I was serving the wrong customer.

And so, what was cool, is that this new thing I created, I created for my dream customer, for the person I wanted to get into my world. I launched it. I put it out there. I started buying ads to it. And then, guess what eventually happened? My dream customers, they heard my voice, and they came to me. And that's how we built the list. And then from there, we built ClickFunnels. And from there, we built the Funnel Hacking Movement And my funnel hackers and everything else we've done. But it all started with, who do we want to serve? And then, what bait do we create to attract that person? And that's how we changed the game. So at least, changed it for me. And if you listen to this, probably for you as well.

So hope this helps, hope you enjoy this. If you guys got anything that from this episode, please take a screenshot on your phone, post it on social, tag me on it. And tell me your biggest takeaway. I love to read those. I see them. I read them. And you'll see me, I usually like them, if I see them. Anyway, I appreciate that. Thanks you guys for everything and I'll talk to you guys, all, again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 896 no Three of My Favorite Books This Year... So Far https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/three-of-my-favorite-books-this-year-so-far Recently I was asked by Rachel Pedersen what my favorite books are and why. So I wanted to share three that I’m loving right now. On this episode, Russell gives you his top 3 book recommendations and explains why they are so important to him during the phase of life that he’s in right now. ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I'm going to drop on you some of my favorite books that I'm reading right now. Hey, everybody hope you guys are doing awesome. So we're getting closer and closer to Halloween, depending when you're listening to this. Halloween was my favorite holiday for basically my entire life. I went trick-or-treating until I was 21 years old. And those who are like, "Wait Russell, weren't you on a mission when you were at 19 and 20? And the answer is yes, and yes, I dressed up as a Mormon missionary going door-to-door, because I already had the costume on. I got free candy. It was awesome. Oh, it was the good old days. Anyway, I love trick-or-treating. I love Halloween, love everything. In fact, when my kids were born, I was like, "This is the greatest thing in the world. Halloween was amazing before, it's even more amazing now." And went trick-or-treating every single year until about three years ago. Three years ago was when I bought my Batman suit. We launched Expert Secrets, our affiliate prize was to give away these Batman and Iron Man suits. I got my own custom-fitted, it was so cool. And I was so excited because that Halloween I was going to be Batman, legit Batman. And I was going to put on the suit and I was just so excited for it. And I remember it was a long day at the office, I got home as quick as I could, and I was trying to… oh, and the kids had wrestling practice. We got wrestling practice and come back. And kids gets home and I'm getting them all ready, giving them dinner, because I have to race back to the office to get the Batman suit on, which is an hour long project to get that suit on. I'm so excited. Feeding the kids, about to race back to the office and all of a sudden doorbell rings. And I go to the door and it's one of Ellie's friends. And friend's like, "Hey, is Ellie here?" I'm like, "Yeah, but what are you doing here?" She's like, "I'm coming to go trick-or-treating with Ellie." I was like, "What?" I'm like "I trick-or-treat with my kids." Ellie runs over, "Oh, bye Dad, I’m heading out.” I'm like, "No, you can't." And Collette is like, "Why not?" Because this is my holiday, you can't take my daughter trick-or-treating. And Ellie took off with her friends, she was gone. And a few minutes later the boys got calls from their friends and they're like, "We're going, we're going trick-or-treating." And they took off. And I remember, I wasn't ready for it. I don't know, it's like the kids leaving home, only worse. I wasn't ready for it. And I remember they were all gone and it was Aiden and Norah. Norah was tiny at the time, she was maybe two at the time. And so I didn't get my Batman suit on. We go out to the car and got Norah's suit and everything and put her in the car seat. By the time we got in the car she passed out and she was out cold. And so it was Aiden, me and Collette. So we drove to this neighborhood. Aiden got out with Collette, started trick-or-treating, and I passed out in the car. And that was the saddest day of my life. I miss Halloween. Anyway, I come to grips with it now. My kids are awesome. They can have friends. It was just, I wasn't ready for it. You know what I mean? You're planning your kids are going to leave the house someday, and then all of a sudden they just leave, without any preparation. Anyway, so Halloween was my favorite holiday until that year. And now my favorite holiday is 4th of July, because I spend more money on 4th of July than any sane human. And so because of that, everybody comes to me. And I'm doing that to compensate for Halloween being stolen from me by kids. Anyway, that's how I really feel. I'm just joking. Anyway, that's a true story. So 4th of July is my new favorite holiday, but it always was Halloween. And so as Halloween gets closer, I still get excited. I'm not going to lie, I love the leaves falling and the seasons changing and pumpkins and candy and just all the things. So anyway, one of our family traditions is every year for Halloween we go to Albion, Idaho, where there's this old college campus. It's in early 1900s, there was a thriving college here. In 19, I don't know, 1920 or something, it went out of business. So it's been vacant for 100 years. And a couple of years back, this family bought it and they renovate the whole thing and turn it into, one of the dorms they turned into a bed and breakfast. And then the rest of it, they turned to haunted houses. There's a zombie house, a clown house, and it's these old creepy buildings from the early 1900s. And anyway, it's insane. So we go every year. This year we took two of our friends, Rachel Peterson and her husband, Paul, and they came with us, which was really, really fun. So anyway, on the trip down, Rachel asked me, says, "What are your favorite books you're reading right now?" Everyone time someone asks me that question about books, I always freeze, because there's so many. I'm obsessed with books. I have more books than anybody I know. And I buy them every day and tons more. And I don't read most of the books, I listen to most with audio. But I buy the physical book too, because I like having physical books. Anyway, all sorts of turmoil. I sat there like a deer in headlights thinking. I kept thinking and thinking and I realized right now ... And it's tough, because you know how it is, different seasons of your life there's different books and all those kinds of things. So anyway, I'm in a season of my life I'm actually really excited for. I'm preparing, not really, I'm mentally thinking about my next book. I think I told you guys before, my next book. I bought the domain bootstrap.com. So the book's going to be called Bootstrapped, and it's going to be the ClickFunnels story, how we did it. It's going to be different, because all my other books have been how-to books, right? How to get traffic, how to build a funnel, how to write copy, things like that. But this book's not going to be how-to, this is the story of it. And so I've been obsessed, listening to books about companies and people telling their story about how they built the company. And so I've been listening to a lot of those lately just to understand how to write that way and how to tell stories that way that's different, right? It's different than how I've typically done things. So for me to be able to write this book, I'd have to change my skillset. And this hopefully is a side lesson for everyone. A lot of times when we have to do the thing we want to do, we have to learn something completely different, right? A lot of you guys, if you were a business before and you come into our world, you're like, "Oh my gosh, business is different online." We have to change how we think. And so for me it's the same way. For me to write this next book, I have to learn how to write differently. And I understand that and respect that. I'm paying attention to it, I'm trying to learn it. So anyway, so I've been listening to a lot of books about companies, about their stories, because I want to hear how people tell their stories. And so my three books I want to recommend to you today are all books about people with companies. And they're good for a couple reasons. Number one, they're fascinating books. Number two, they're really good storytellers. The way they tell their story was fascinating, where I was sucked into the book and I couldn't stop. In fact, two of these books I've listened to twice, and one I will probably listen to again. I just finished it yesterday, so that's why I haven't listened to it twice yet. That's rare for me. I don't normally read things twice, because I have so many books coming in. But two of the three books I have already listened to twice, which is a testament of how good of a story that they actually are. So with that said, in no particular order, I'll give you my three books. Number one book. And this one I'm nervous to tell you guys about, because it's the dark side of entrepreneurship, okay? A lot of times you hear stories about, "Oh, here's how so-and-so built their company." And it's this positive thing and there's ups and downs and trials and tribulations. But for the most part it's a positive experience, right? This is actually a book about a website called The Silk Road, which is a website that's on the dark web that sold illegal drugs. And so it's the negative side of entrepreneurship, but it's one of the best stories ever. So the book is called American Kingpin, okay? American Kingpin. And the premise of it is there was this kid, think he's 22, 23 year-old kid, he's libertarian and he felt that people should, if they want to do drugs, they should be able to do drugs. If they want to do it themselves they should be able to do it, right? And so he talks about that a little bit, and then he had this idea for a website where it's the type of site where people can come and buy and sell drugs on the dark web and he'd take a commission of every single sale that happened, right? And so that was this idea. Now the problem is that he didn't know how to code and it was illegal to make what he's trying to make, so he couldn't go hire coders on Script-Lance or oDesk like we would, it's illegal. So he had to teach himself coding. Then he started building the site. And it's crazy. I don't want to ruin the story, but it is amazing. He basically ends up building this empire. And he had every government agency coming trying to take him down, from DEA, FDA, FTC, all of them were trying to come and get him and none of them could figure out who he was. And so the story is just so fascinating. The way it's told, oh, it's so good. And one of my favorite parts is there's a scene where he's in downtown San Francisco, he's walking around, he's looking at all of the tech buildings, right? These huge companies worth billions and billions of dollars. And he's walking around by himself with a backpack on looking at these buildings and realizing that his company was worth more than any of these buildings, but if he told anybody about it, he'd have to go to jail. How cool is that? Even though everything he was doing was illegal, he was still an entrepreneur, went through the same trials and problems and ups and downs that we have to go through. And so I love this book. It was amazing. It's called American Kingpin. And it is the first one that I wanted to recommend. Also, the writer who wrote it is ... I literally, I tried to message him like, "Hey, would you want to write my book for me? Because you are such a good writer." At the end of the book, he tells about how he did it and talks about the tens of thousands of hours of research and all the papers and documents and court cases he had to go through to write this book. And he went on to say that on top of him just going and actually writing the book, he didn't just be like, oh… he looked at, what was the weather in San Francisco on that day? What was happening here? Happening here? When he's telling the scenes of the story, it was actually like what was really happening at the time. Oh, anyway, it's so good. I listened to it twice. I'll probably listen to it again, it's that good. I think they're going to make a movie out of it. Apparently there's a documentary made about it, but the documentary is horrible. Don't even watch the documentary about Silk Road. Just read the book, because it is insane and it's worth your time. So there's book number one. All right. Before I open up to book number two, I've got a secret message here about a cell phone number. And I want you guys all to text here in a few seconds. So I'm going to take a pause and do a really quick promo for the community, my texting community, and how you can get on it right now. All right. By the way, I'm having fun with the texting community. I've been sending out cool stuff every day, at least I think it's cool. Audio messages every morning, giving motivation ideas, inspiration. So if you're not on it yet, go and get in there. All right. Book number two. You guys ready for number two? Number two is a book called Lost and Founder. And this is a book by a guy named Rand Fishkin. And I love this book for a couple reasons. Rand started a company called SEOmoz, and he started about the same time I was getting started. So I had a chance to watch what he was doing. And Rand, I have so much respect for him. I think we both look at the world differently. I think he would disagree a lot of things I believe, I disagree with things he believe, from how to run businesses. But man, I have so much respect for him. And I remember watching, because I went the whole, bootstrapped, build a company through ads and funnels and things like that, and he went the other way of building a really good product and raise money and things like that. And it was interesting because looking at the outside, I never knew if I was right or if I was wrong, "Should we be taking out money? What should we be doing?" And in fact, in my book, Bootstrapped, there was this chance meeting where Rand actually came to Boise and spoke at an event. I showed up to the event. He told the story about Moz, how he took on money, his whole thing. And I remember listening to the story. In my head I'm like, "Okay, the next step for ClickFunnels is for us to take on money." And when he got done, normally I would leave something like that, I'm too introverted and shy, but one of my friends, BJ Wright, was there with me. He was like, "Let's go talk to Rand, let's go talk to him." I'm like, "Oh, okay." So BJ pulled us up there and BJ asked him, basically said, "Hey, you took on money, was it worth it? Tell us the real story." And Rand was very raw and honest and like, "No, it ruined everything." He went on, he's like, "I suffered depression." He's like, "I had to quit from CEO." He's like, "I don't even have my own car. I don't make that much money." And just going into the whole things. I remember when he got done telling me this whole thing, I remember getting in my car and voxing Todd and everybody on my team, "We are not taking on money no matter what it takes." He literally diverted me from taking on money. If it wasn't for him saying that, the next phase for ClickFunnels was to take on money. And so, because of that we didn't. And it was interesting, because publicly in his presentation, where he's telling the story about taking on money, but then privately, he literally told us don't do it. And I remember always thinking about that and wondering how he felt. And after he left Moz, a couple of years later he wrote a book called Lost and Founder. And Lost and Found founders is him telling a story. And in his book he explains the dangers of VC money at a level that I have never understood before. It was so clear and concise and oh, I'm so grateful for that book. Grateful for Rand, first off, for steering us in a different direction. But second off, the book is such a good illustration of why. And I hope you guys, especially my world, where we're talking about how do you go funnels, bootstrap things, man, that book was one of the best to show the opposite side of that, what happens when you do take on money and the scary side of business that a lot of us aren't aware of until it's too late. So Lost and Founders is book number two, super well written. Rand's an amazing writer, and just someone I have a ton of respect for. So that's book number two. All right. You guys ready for book number three? My third and final choice today is the book I finished last night, which is called Shoe Dog by Phil Knight. And a Shoe Dog is the story about Nike. And I've had so many people who told me to read this book over and over and over, and I kept fighting it, fighting it. And finally, it was actually interesting, Dean Graziosi told me I had to read it. And I was like, "Oh yeah, I've heard that by a lot of people." He said, "No, you need to read it for a different reason than everybody else." And I was like, "Why?" Dean and I talk about our kids a lot, and Dean and I both have children that we had butt heads with and struggled with sometimes. And he said that there's this part in Phil Knight's story where he had two children and he said that one of the kids he never could figure him out. It's like this puzzle, could never figure it out. And he always just struggled. Said his son would not wear Nike's. His son, whatever his dad wanted, he wanted to do the opposite and just, it was really hard. He said eventually, I think his son was 28 years old, he ended up passing away in a tragic accident. And one of the things he said in the book, he said, "Man, if I can do my life over again, I would've focused more energy on trying to understand the puzzle of my son". Oh, I'm getting emotional. Anyway, so that was the reason why ... After Dean told me that, he's like, You should read it, because I think for both of us ... " He's like, "We need to spend more time trying to understand our kids that we struggle with." And so I said, "Okay." And so I started to read the book and oh, so glad I did, for so many reasons. Number one, just helped me to understand that and put more focus on my kids, which I think is so important. And number two, it's just a fascinating story of the story of Nike. I didn't know all the story, how it happened and all the things he went through to make it possible. And anyway, it was such a good book, and I hope you guys have a chance to read that one as well. So there are my three books. Number one, American kingpin, number two, Lost and Founder, number three, Shoe Dog. All amazing books. Again, it's so hard to have a comprehensive list of all the amazing books in the world. But I thought three that are telling stories of companies, they will inspire you, they will motivate you to get you ready to build your company or give you ideas for the next steps in your company. And then also, how it relates to your life and your family and things like that. I think those books are amazing. Hope you enjoy them. With that said, I appreciate you guys all. Please, take a picture. If you enjoy this, take a picture of it, post it on Instagram or Facebook, wherever you post it, and then tell me your favorite books in the comments and tag me. And I'd love to hear what books you're reading so I can decide what to read next. Thanks everybody. And I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 21 Oct 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Three of My Favorite Books This Year... So Far full 355 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Recently I was asked by Rachel Pedersen what my favorite books are and why. So I wanted to share three that I’m loving right now. Recently I was asked by Rachel Pedersen what my favorite books are and why. So I wanted to share three that I’m loving right now. On this episode, Russell gives you his top 3 book recommendations and explains why they are so important to him during the phase of life that he’s in right now. ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I'm going to drop on you some of my favorite books that I'm reading right now. Hey, everybody hope you guys are doing awesome. So we're getting closer and closer to Halloween, depending when you're listening to this. Halloween was my favorite holiday for basically my entire life. I went trick-or-treating until I was 21 years old. And those who are like, "Wait Russell, weren't you on a mission when you were at 19 and 20? And the answer is yes, and yes, I dressed up as a Mormon missionary going door-to-door, because I already had the costume on. I got free candy. It was awesome. Oh, it was the good old days. Anyway, I love trick-or-treating. I love Halloween, love everything. In fact, when my kids were born, I was like, "This is the greatest thing in the world. Halloween was amazing before, it's even more amazing now." And went trick-or-treating every single year until about three years ago. Three years ago was when I bought my Batman suit. We launched Expert Secrets, our affiliate prize was to give away these Batman and Iron Man suits. I got my own custom-fitted, it was so cool. And I was so excited because that Halloween I was going to be Batman, legit Batman. And I was going to put on the suit and I was just so excited for it. And I remember it was a long day at the office, I got home as quick as I could, and I was trying to… oh, and the kids had wrestling practice. We got wrestling practice and come back. And kids gets home and I'm getting them all ready, giving them dinner, because I have to race back to the office to get the Batman suit on, which is an hour long project to get that suit on. I'm so excited. Feeding the kids, about to race back to the office and all of a sudden doorbell rings. And I go to the door and it's one of Ellie's friends. And friend's like, "Hey, is Ellie here?" I'm like, "Yeah, but what are you doing here?" She's like, "I'm coming to go trick-or-treating with Ellie." I was like, "What?" I'm like "I trick-or-treat with my kids." Ellie runs over, "Oh, bye Dad, I’m heading out.” I'm like, "No, you can't." And Collette is like, "Why not?" Because this is my holiday, you can't take my daughter trick-or-treating. And Ellie took off with her friends, she was gone. And a few minutes later the boys got calls from their friends and they're like, "We're going, we're going trick-or-treating." And they took off. And I remember, I wasn't ready for it. I don't know, it's like the kids leaving home, only worse. I wasn't ready for it. And I remember they were all gone and it was Aiden and Norah. Norah was tiny at the time, she was maybe two at the time. And so I didn't get my Batman suit on. We go out to the car and got Norah's suit and everything and put her in the car seat. By the time we got in the car she passed out and she was out cold. And so it was Aiden, me and Collette. So we drove to this neighborhood. Aiden got out with Collette, started trick-or-treating, and I passed out in the car. And that was the saddest day of my life. I miss Halloween. Anyway, I come to grips with it now. My kids are awesome. They can have friends. It was just, I wasn't ready for it. You know what I mean? You're planning your kids are going to leave the house someday, and then all of a sudden they just leave, without any preparation. Anyway, so Halloween was my favorite holiday until that year. And now my favorite holiday is 4th of July, because I spend more money on 4th of July than any sane human. And so because of that, everybody comes to me. And I'm doing that to compensate for Halloween being stolen from me by kids. Anyway, that's how I really feel. I'm just joking. Anyway, that's a true story. So 4th of July is my new favorite holiday, but it always was Halloween. And so as Halloween gets closer, I still get excited. I'm not going to lie, I love the leaves falling and the seasons changing and pumpkins and candy and just all the things. So anyway, one of our family traditions is every year for Halloween we go to Albion, Idaho, where there's this old college campus. It's in early 1900s, there was a thriving college here. In 19, I don't know, 1920 or something, it went out of business. So it's been vacant for 100 years. And a couple of years back, this family bought it and they renovate the whole thing and turn it into, one of the dorms they turned into a bed and breakfast. And then the rest of it, they turned to haunted houses. There's a zombie house, a clown house, and it's these old creepy buildings from the early 1900s. And anyway, it's insane. So we go every year. This year we took two of our friends, Rachel Peterson and her husband, Paul, and they came with us, which was really, really fun. So anyway, on the trip down, Rachel asked me, says, "What are your favorite books you're reading right now?" Everyone time someone asks me that question about books, I always freeze, because there's so many. I'm obsessed with books. I have more books than anybody I know. And I buy them every day and tons more. And I don't read most of the books, I listen to most with audio. But I buy the physical book too, because I like having physical books. Anyway, all sorts of turmoil. I sat there like a deer in headlights thinking. I kept thinking and thinking and I realized right now ... And it's tough, because you know how it is, different seasons of your life there's different books and all those kinds of things. So anyway, I'm in a season of my life I'm actually really excited for. I'm preparing, not really, I'm mentally thinking about my next book. I think I told you guys before, my next book. I bought the domain bootstrap.com. So the book's going to be called Bootstrapped, and it's going to be the ClickFunnels story, how we did it. It's going to be different, because all my other books have been how-to books, right? How to get traffic, how to build a funnel, how to write copy, things like that. But this book's not going to be how-to, this is the story of it. And so I've been obsessed, listening to books about companies and people telling their story about how they built the company. And so I've been listening to a lot of those lately just to understand how to write that way and how to tell stories that way that's different, right? It's different than how I've typically done things. So for me to be able to write this book, I'd have to change my skillset. And this hopefully is a side lesson for everyone. A lot of times when we have to do the thing we want to do, we have to learn something completely different, right? A lot of you guys, if you were a business before and you come into our world, you're like, "Oh my gosh, business is different online." We have to change how we think. And so for me it's the same way. For me to write this next book, I have to learn how to write differently. And I understand that and respect that. I'm paying attention to it, I'm trying to learn it. So anyway, so I've been listening to a lot of books about companies, about their stories, because I want to hear how people tell their stories. And so my three books I want to recommend to you today are all books about people with companies. And they're good for a couple reasons. Number one, they're fascinating books. Number two, they're really good storytellers. The way they tell their story was fascinating, where I was sucked into the book and I couldn't stop. In fact, two of these books I've listened to twice, and one I will probably listen to again. I just finished it yesterday, so that's why I haven't listened to it twice yet. That's rare for me. I don't normally read things twice, because I have so many books coming in. But two of the three books I have already listened to twice, which is a testament of how good of a story that they actually are. So with that said, in no particular order, I'll give you my three books. Number one book. And this one I'm nervous to tell you guys about, because it's the dark side of entrepreneurship, okay? A lot of times you hear stories about, "Oh, here's how so-and-so built their company." And it's this positive thing and there's ups and downs and trials and tribulations. But for the most part it's a positive experience, right? This is actually a book about a website called The Silk Road, which is a website that's on the dark web that sold illegal drugs. And so it's the negative side of entrepreneurship, but it's one of the best stories ever. So the book is called American Kingpin, okay? American Kingpin. And the premise of it is there was this kid, think he's 22, 23 year-old kid, he's libertarian and he felt that people should, if they want to do drugs, they should be able to do drugs. If they want to do it themselves they should be able to do it, right? And so he talks about that a little bit, and then he had this idea for a website where it's the type of site where people can come and buy and sell drugs on the dark web and he'd take a commission of every single sale that happened, right? And so that was this idea. Now the problem is that he didn't know how to code and it was illegal to make what he's trying to make, so he couldn't go hire coders on Script-Lance or oDesk like we would, it's illegal. So he had to teach himself coding. Then he started building the site. And it's crazy. I don't want to ruin the story, but it is amazing. He basically ends up building this empire. And he had every government agency coming trying to take him down, from DEA, FDA, FTC, all of them were trying to come and get him and none of them could figure out who he was. And so the story is just so fascinating. The way it's told, oh, it's so good. And one of my favorite parts is there's a scene where he's in downtown San Francisco, he's walking around, he's looking at all of the tech buildings, right? These huge companies worth billions and billions of dollars. And he's walking around by himself with a backpack on looking at these buildings and realizing that his company was worth more than any of these buildings, but if he told anybody about it, he'd have to go to jail. How cool is that? Even though everything he was doing was illegal, he was still an entrepreneur, went through the same trials and problems and ups and downs that we have to go through. And so I love this book. It was amazing. It's called American Kingpin. And it is the first one that I wanted to recommend. Also, the writer who wrote it is ... I literally, I tried to message him like, "Hey, would you want to write my book for me? Because you are such a good writer." At the end of the book, he tells about how he did it and talks about the tens of thousands of hours of research and all the papers and documents and court cases he had to go through to write this book. And he went on to say that on top of him just going and actually writing the book, he didn't just be like, oh… he looked at, what was the weather in San Francisco on that day? What was happening here? Happening here? When he's telling the scenes of the story, it was actually like what was really happening at the time. Oh, anyway, it's so good. I listened to it twice. I'll probably listen to it again, it's that good. I think they're going to make a movie out of it. Apparently there's a documentary made about it, but the documentary is horrible. Don't even watch the documentary about Silk Road. Just read the book, because it is insane and it's worth your time. So there's book number one. All right. Before I open up to book number two, I've got a secret message here about a cell phone number. And I want you guys all to text here in a few seconds. So I'm going to take a pause and do a really quick promo for the community, my texting community, and how you can get on it right now. All right. By the way, I'm having fun with the texting community. I've been sending out cool stuff every day, at least I think it's cool. Audio messages every morning, giving motivation ideas, inspiration. So if you're not on it yet, go and get in there. All right. Book number two. You guys ready for number two? Number two is a book called Lost and Founder. And this is a book by a guy named Rand Fishkin. And I love this book for a couple reasons. Rand started a company called SEOmoz, and he started about the same time I was getting started. So I had a chance to watch what he was doing. And Rand, I have so much respect for him. I think we both look at the world differently. I think he would disagree a lot of things I believe, I disagree with things he believe, from how to run businesses. But man, I have so much respect for him. And I remember watching, because I went the whole, bootstrapped, build a company through ads and funnels and things like that, and he went the other way of building a really good product and raise money and things like that. And it was interesting because looking at the outside, I never knew if I was right or if I was wrong, "Should we be taking out money? What should we be doing?" And in fact, in my book, Bootstrapped, there was this chance meeting where Rand actually came to Boise and spoke at an event. I showed up to the event. He told the story about Moz, how he took on money, his whole thing. And I remember listening to the story. In my head I'm like, "Okay, the next step for ClickFunnels is for us to take on money." And when he got done, normally I would leave something like that, I'm too introverted and shy, but one of my friends, BJ Wright, was there with me. He was like, "Let's go talk to Rand, let's go talk to him." I'm like, "Oh, okay." So BJ pulled us up there and BJ asked him, basically said, "Hey, you took on money, was it worth it? Tell us the real story." And Rand was very raw and honest and like, "No, it ruined everything." He went on, he's like, "I suffered depression." He's like, "I had to quit from CEO." He's like, "I don't even have my own car. I don't make that much money." And just going into the whole things. I remember when he got done telling me this whole thing, I remember getting in my car and voxing Todd and everybody on my team, "We are not taking on money no matter what it takes." He literally diverted me from taking on money. If it wasn't for him saying that, the next phase for ClickFunnels was to take on money. And so, because of that we didn't. And it was interesting, because publicly in his presentation, where he's telling the story about taking on money, but then privately, he literally told us don't do it. And I remember always thinking about that and wondering how he felt. And after he left Moz, a couple of years later he wrote a book called Lost and Founder. And Lost and Found founders is him telling a story. And in his book he explains the dangers of VC money at a level that I have never understood before. It was so clear and concise and oh, I'm so grateful for that book. Grateful for Rand, first off, for steering us in a different direction. But second off, the book is such a good illustration of why. And I hope you guys, especially my world, where we're talking about how do you go funnels, bootstrap things, man, that book was one of the best to show the opposite side of that, what happens when you do take on money and the scary side of business that a lot of us aren't aware of until it's too late. So Lost and Founders is book number two, super well written. Rand's an amazing writer, and just someone I have a ton of respect for. So that's book number two. All right. You guys ready for book number three? My third and final choice today is the book I finished last night, which is called Shoe Dog by Phil Knight. And a Shoe Dog is the story about Nike. And I've had so many people who told me to read this book over and over and over, and I kept fighting it, fighting it. And finally, it was actually interesting, Dean Graziosi told me I had to read it. And I was like, "Oh yeah, I've heard that by a lot of people." He said, "No, you need to read it for a different reason than everybody else." And I was like, "Why?" Dean and I talk about our kids a lot, and Dean and I both have children that we had butt heads with and struggled with sometimes. And he said that there's this part in Phil Knight's story where he had two children and he said that one of the kids he never could figure him out. It's like this puzzle, could never figure it out. And he always just struggled. Said his son would not wear Nike's. His son, whatever his dad wanted, he wanted to do the opposite and just, it was really hard. He said eventually, I think his son was 28 years old, he ended up passing away in a tragic accident. And one of the things he said in the book, he said, "Man, if I can do my life over again, I would've focused more energy on trying to understand the puzzle of my son". Oh, I'm getting emotional. Anyway, so that was the reason why ... After Dean told me that, he's like, You should read it, because I think for both of us ... " He's like, "We need to spend more time trying to understand our kids that we struggle with." And so I said, "Okay." And so I started to read the book and oh, so glad I did, for so many reasons. Number one, just helped me to understand that and put more focus on my kids, which I think is so important. And number two, it's just a fascinating story of the story of Nike. I didn't know all the story, how it happened and all the things he went through to make it possible. And anyway, it was such a good book, and I hope you guys have a chance to read that one as well. So there are my three books. Number one, American kingpin, number two, Lost and Founder, number three, Shoe Dog. All amazing books. Again, it's so hard to have a comprehensive list of all the amazing books in the world. But I thought three that are telling stories of companies, they will inspire you, they will motivate you to get you ready to build your company or give you ideas for the next steps in your company. And then also, how it relates to your life and your family and things like that. I think those books are amazing. Hope you enjoy them. With that said, I appreciate you guys all. Please, take a picture. If you enjoy this, take a picture of it, post it on Instagram or Facebook, wherever you post it, and then tell me your favorite books in the comments and tag me. And I'd love to hear what books you're reading so I can decide what to read next. Thanks everybody. And I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recently I was asked by Rachel Pedersen what my favorite books are and why. So I wanted to share three that I’m loving right now.

On this episode, Russell gives you his top 3 book recommendations and explains why they are so important to him during the phase of life that he’s in right now.

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What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I'm going to drop on you some of my favorite books that I'm reading right now.

Hey, everybody hope you guys are doing awesome. So we're getting closer and closer to Halloween, depending when you're listening to this. Halloween was my favorite holiday for basically my entire life. I went trick-or-treating until I was 21 years old. And those who are like, "Wait Russell, weren't you on a mission when you were at 19 and 20? And the answer is yes, and yes, I dressed up as a Mormon missionary going door-to-door, because I already had the costume on. I got free candy. It was awesome. Oh, it was the good old days.

Anyway, I love trick-or-treating. I love Halloween, love everything. In fact, when my kids were born, I was like, "This is the greatest thing in the world. Halloween was amazing before, it's even more amazing now." And went trick-or-treating every single year until about three years ago. Three years ago was when I bought my Batman suit. We launched Expert Secrets, our affiliate prize was to give away these Batman and Iron Man suits. I got my own custom-fitted, it was so cool. And I was so excited because that Halloween I was going to be Batman, legit Batman. And I was going to put on the suit and I was just so excited for it. And I remember it was a long day at the office, I got home as quick as I could, and I was trying to… oh, and the kids had wrestling practice. We got wrestling practice and come back. And kids gets home and I'm getting them all ready, giving them dinner, because I have to race back to the office to get the Batman suit on, which is an hour long project to get that suit on.

I'm so excited. Feeding the kids, about to race back to the office and all of a sudden doorbell rings. And I go to the door and it's one of Ellie's friends. And friend's like, "Hey, is Ellie here?" I'm like, "Yeah, but what are you doing here?" She's like, "I'm coming to go trick-or-treating with Ellie." I was like, "What?" I'm like "I trick-or-treat with my kids." Ellie runs over, "Oh, bye Dad, I’m heading out.” I'm like, "No, you can't." And Collette is like, "Why not?" Because this is my holiday, you can't take my daughter trick-or-treating. And Ellie took off with her friends, she was gone. And a few minutes later the boys got calls from their friends and they're like, "We're going, we're going trick-or-treating." And they took off.

And I remember, I wasn't ready for it. I don't know, it's like the kids leaving home, only worse. I wasn't ready for it. And I remember they were all gone and it was Aiden and Norah. Norah was tiny at the time, she was maybe two at the time. And so I didn't get my Batman suit on. We go out to the car and got Norah's suit and everything and put her in the car seat. By the time we got in the car she passed out and she was out cold. And so it was Aiden, me and Collette. So we drove to this neighborhood. Aiden got out with Collette, started trick-or-treating, and I passed out in the car. And that was the saddest day of my life. I miss Halloween.

Anyway, I come to grips with it now. My kids are awesome. They can have friends. It was just, I wasn't ready for it. You know what I mean? You're planning your kids are going to leave the house someday, and then all of a sudden they just leave, without any preparation. Anyway, so Halloween was my favorite holiday until that year. And now my favorite holiday is 4th of July, because I spend more money on 4th of July than any sane human. And so because of that, everybody comes to me. And I'm doing that to compensate for Halloween being stolen from me by kids. Anyway, that's how I really feel. I'm just joking. Anyway, that's a true story. So 4th of July is my new favorite holiday, but it always was Halloween. And so as Halloween gets closer, I still get excited. I'm not going to lie, I love the leaves falling and the seasons changing and pumpkins and candy and just all the things.

So anyway, one of our family traditions is every year for Halloween we go to Albion, Idaho, where there's this old college campus. It's in early 1900s, there was a thriving college here. In 19, I don't know, 1920 or something, it went out of business. So it's been vacant for 100 years. And a couple of years back, this family bought it and they renovate the whole thing and turn it into, one of the dorms they turned into a bed and breakfast. And then the rest of it, they turned to haunted houses. There's a zombie house, a clown house, and it's these old creepy buildings from the early 1900s. And anyway, it's insane. So we go every year. This year we took two of our friends, Rachel Peterson and her husband, Paul, and they came with us, which was really, really fun.

So anyway, on the trip down, Rachel asked me, says, "What are your favorite books you're reading right now?" Everyone time someone asks me that question about books, I always freeze, because there's so many. I'm obsessed with books. I have more books than anybody I know. And I buy them every day and tons more. And I don't read most of the books, I listen to most with audio. But I buy the physical book too, because I like having physical books. Anyway, all sorts of turmoil. I sat there like a deer in headlights thinking. I kept thinking and thinking and I realized right now ... And it's tough, because you know how it is, different seasons of your life there's different books and all those kinds of things.

So anyway, I'm in a season of my life I'm actually really excited for. I'm preparing, not really, I'm mentally thinking about my next book. I think I told you guys before, my next book. I bought the domain bootstrap.com. So the book's going to be called Bootstrapped, and it's going to be the ClickFunnels story, how we did it. It's going to be different, because all my other books have been how-to books, right? How to get traffic, how to build a funnel, how to write copy, things like that. But this book's not going to be how-to, this is the story of it. And so I've been obsessed, listening to books about companies and people telling their story about how they built the company. And so I've been listening to a lot of those lately just to understand how to write that way and how to tell stories that way that's different, right? It's different than how I've typically done things. So for me to be able to write this book, I'd have to change my skillset.

And this hopefully is a side lesson for everyone. A lot of times when we have to do the thing we want to do, we have to learn something completely different, right? A lot of you guys, if you were a business before and you come into our world, you're like, "Oh my gosh, business is different online." We have to change how we think. And so for me it's the same way. For me to write this next book, I have to learn how to write differently. And I understand that and respect that. I'm paying attention to it, I'm trying to learn it.

So anyway, so I've been listening to a lot of books about companies, about their stories, because I want to hear how people tell their stories. And so my three books I want to recommend to you today are all books about people with companies. And they're good for a couple reasons. Number one, they're fascinating books. Number two, they're really good storytellers. The way they tell their story was fascinating, where I was sucked into the book and I couldn't stop. In fact, two of these books I've listened to twice, and one I will probably listen to again. I just finished it yesterday, so that's why I haven't listened to it twice yet. That's rare for me. I don't normally read things twice, because I have so many books coming in. But two of the three books I have already listened to twice, which is a testament of how good of a story that they actually are. So with that said, in no particular order, I'll give you my three books.

Number one book. And this one I'm nervous to tell you guys about, because it's the dark side of entrepreneurship, okay? A lot of times you hear stories about, "Oh, here's how so-and-so built their company." And it's this positive thing and there's ups and downs and trials and tribulations. But for the most part it's a positive experience, right? This is actually a book about a website called The Silk Road, which is a website that's on the dark web that sold illegal drugs. And so it's the negative side of entrepreneurship, but it's one of the best stories ever.

So the book is called American Kingpin, okay? American Kingpin. And the premise of it is there was this kid, think he's 22, 23 year-old kid, he's libertarian and he felt that people should, if they want to do drugs, they should be able to do drugs. If they want to do it themselves they should be able to do it, right? And so he talks about that a little bit, and then he had this idea for a website where it's the type of site where people can come and buy and sell drugs on the dark web and he'd take a commission of every single sale that happened, right? And so that was this idea. Now the problem is that he didn't know how to code and it was illegal to make what he's trying to make, so he couldn't go hire coders on Script-Lance or oDesk like we would, it's illegal.

So he had to teach himself coding. Then he started building the site. And it's crazy. I don't want to ruin the story, but it is amazing. He basically ends up building this empire. And he had every government agency coming trying to take him down, from DEA, FDA, FTC, all of them were trying to come and get him and none of them could figure out who he was. And so the story is just so fascinating. The way it's told, oh, it's so good. And one of my favorite parts is there's a scene where he's in downtown San Francisco, he's walking around, he's looking at all of the tech buildings, right? These huge companies worth billions and billions of dollars. And he's walking around by himself with a backpack on looking at these buildings and realizing that his company was worth more than any of these buildings, but if he told anybody about it, he'd have to go to jail. How cool is that?

Even though everything he was doing was illegal, he was still an entrepreneur, went through the same trials and problems and ups and downs that we have to go through. And so I love this book. It was amazing. It's called American Kingpin. And it is the first one that I wanted to recommend. Also, the writer who wrote it is ... I literally, I tried to message him like, "Hey, would you want to write my book for me? Because you are such a good writer." At the end of the book, he tells about how he did it and talks about the tens of thousands of hours of research and all the papers and documents and court cases he had to go through to write this book. And he went on to say that on top of him just going and actually writing the book, he didn't just be like, oh… he looked at, what was the weather in San Francisco on that day? What was happening here? Happening here? When he's telling the scenes of the story, it was actually like what was really happening at the time.

Oh, anyway, it's so good. I listened to it twice. I'll probably listen to it again, it's that good. I think they're going to make a movie out of it. Apparently there's a documentary made about it, but the documentary is horrible. Don't even watch the documentary about Silk Road. Just read the book, because it is insane and it's worth your time. So there's book number one.

All right. Before I open up to book number two, I've got a secret message here about a cell phone number. And I want you guys all to text here in a few seconds. So I'm going to take a pause and do a really quick promo for the community, my texting community, and how you can get on it right now. All right. By the way, I'm having fun with the texting community. I've been sending out cool stuff every day, at least I think it's cool. Audio messages every morning, giving motivation ideas, inspiration. So if you're not on it yet, go and get in there.

All right. Book number two. You guys ready for number two? Number two is a book called Lost and Founder. And this is a book by a guy named Rand Fishkin. And I love this book for a couple reasons. Rand started a company called SEOmoz, and he started about the same time I was getting started. So I had a chance to watch what he was doing. And Rand, I have so much respect for him. I think we both look at the world differently. I think he would disagree a lot of things I believe, I disagree with things he believe, from how to run businesses. But man, I have so much respect for him. And I remember watching, because I went the whole, bootstrapped, build a company through ads and funnels and things like that, and he went the other way of building a really good product and raise money and things like that. And it was interesting because looking at the outside, I never knew if I was right or if I was wrong, "Should we be taking out money? What should we be doing?"

And in fact, in my book, Bootstrapped, there was this chance meeting where Rand actually came to Boise and spoke at an event. I showed up to the event. He told the story about Moz, how he took on money, his whole thing. And I remember listening to the story. In my head I'm like, "Okay, the next step for ClickFunnels is for us to take on money." And when he got done, normally I would leave something like that, I'm too introverted and shy, but one of my friends, BJ Wright, was there with me. He was like, "Let's go talk to Rand, let's go talk to him." I'm like, "Oh, okay."

So BJ pulled us up there and BJ asked him, basically said, "Hey, you took on money, was it worth it? Tell us the real story." And Rand was very raw and honest and like, "No, it ruined everything." He went on, he's like, "I suffered depression." He's like, "I had to quit from CEO." He's like, "I don't even have my own car. I don't make that much money." And just going into the whole things. I remember when he got done telling me this whole thing, I remember getting in my car and voxing Todd and everybody on my team, "We are not taking on money no matter what it takes." He literally diverted me from taking on money. If it wasn't for him saying that, the next phase for ClickFunnels was to take on money. And so, because of that we didn't. And it was interesting, because publicly in his presentation, where he's telling the story about taking on money, but then privately, he literally told us don't do it.

And I remember always thinking about that and wondering how he felt. And after he left Moz, a couple of years later he wrote a book called Lost and Founder. And Lost and Found founders is him telling a story. And in his book he explains the dangers of VC money at a level that I have never understood before. It was so clear and concise and oh, I'm so grateful for that book. Grateful for Rand, first off, for steering us in a different direction. But second off, the book is such a good illustration of why. And I hope you guys, especially my world, where we're talking about how do you go funnels, bootstrap things, man, that book was one of the best to show the opposite side of that, what happens when you do take on money and the scary side of business that a lot of us aren't aware of until it's too late. So Lost and Founders is book number two, super well written. Rand's an amazing writer, and just someone I have a ton of respect for. So that's book number two.

All right. You guys ready for book number three? My third and final choice today is the book I finished last night, which is called Shoe Dog by Phil Knight. And a Shoe Dog is the story about Nike. And I've had so many people who told me to read this book over and over and over, and I kept fighting it, fighting it. And finally, it was actually interesting, Dean Graziosi told me I had to read it. And I was like, "Oh yeah, I've heard that by a lot of people." He said, "No, you need to read it for a different reason than everybody else." And I was like, "Why?" Dean and I talk about our kids a lot, and Dean and I both have children that we had butt heads with and struggled with sometimes.

And he said that there's this part in Phil Knight's story where he had two children and he said that one of the kids he never could figure him out. It's like this puzzle, could never figure it out. And he always just struggled. Said his son would not wear Nike's. His son, whatever his dad wanted, he wanted to do the opposite and just, it was really hard. He said eventually, I think his son was 28 years old, he ended up passing away in a tragic accident. And one of the things he said in the book, he said, "Man, if I can do my life over again, I would've focused more energy on trying to understand the puzzle of my son".

Oh, I'm getting emotional. Anyway, so that was the reason why ... After Dean told me that, he's like, You should read it, because I think for both of us ... " He's like, "We need to spend more time trying to understand our kids that we struggle with." And so I said, "Okay." And so I started to read the book and oh, so glad I did, for so many reasons. Number one, just helped me to understand that and put more focus on my kids, which I think is so important. And number two, it's just a fascinating story of the story of Nike. I didn't know all the story, how it happened and all the things he went through to make it possible. And anyway, it was such a good book, and I hope you guys have a chance to read that one as well.

So there are my three books. Number one, American kingpin, number two, Lost and Founder, number three, Shoe Dog. All amazing books. Again, it's so hard to have a comprehensive list of all the amazing books in the world. But I thought three that are telling stories of companies, they will inspire you, they will motivate you to get you ready to build your company or give you ideas for the next steps in your company. And then also, how it relates to your life and your family and things like that. I think those books are amazing. Hope you enjoy them.

With that said, I appreciate you guys all. Please, take a picture. If you enjoy this, take a picture of it, post it on Instagram or Facebook, wherever you post it, and then tell me your favorite books in the comments and tag me. And I'd love to hear what books you're reading so I can decide what to read next. Thanks everybody. And I'll talk to you soon.

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]]> 1114 no What I Do To Guarantee My Funnel's Success https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-i-do-to-guarantee-my-funnels-success The missing step that most people forget, before you create a product or build a funnel. Over the weekend, my personal team’s funnel builder…Nick…and I launched a funnel at the spur of the moment just because we thought it would be fun. It’s from an idea I’ve had for 8 years and it’s just been sitting on my hard drive. The funnel was literally hatched, built, and launched in 2 days. And already we’ve had a bunch of sales! Now here’s the crucial part. This is the place where many entrepreneurs mess up. They spend a ton of time…weeks, months, even YEARS…developing and creating something, only to find out that when they launch it, nobody buys. Nobody wants what they have. And that’s because they didn’t ask themselves this ONE CRITICAL QUESTION… The one question that will tell you whether you should spend the time creating a product, service, or offer, or you should pass on the project. If you want to save yourself a ton of time, frustration, and stress, then tune in to this episode of Marketing Secrets to find out what the question is and WHY it’s so important to your entire business. ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I want to teach you a trick today to make sure that every campaign and every funnel you build, always wins. All right, everybody so I wanted to do this episode because I was bored this weekend, not really bored, I'm never bored, we’ve got a lot of stuff going on, but Friday we were about to leave the office and then one of the guys on my team, Nick Sanders, was like, "Hey, do we have any fun project you want to do on the side that'd be kind of fun?" I was like, "What is a fun project that we have on the side that we can just do real quick?" And he's like, "I got some time this weekend, I'd love to just bust something out". I'm like, "Okay." We started thinking back and I remembered that eight years ago, I had this idea for a site called T-shirt smackdown. And the concept was picking two competing concepts or philosophies or whatever, and make a t-shirt for each one and let people vote with their wallets. So, they come to the site and they're like, "Oh, I want this one to win." So they buy the t-shirt to make sure that that one wins, right? And so, I remember I designed this... the site we had designed eight years ago because... So funny, because it was back when Obama was running against Romney. And so, in fact, the initial PSD files we found had the Obama versus Romney thing, and so it was kind of fun. Anyway we found those PSD files and were like, "Dude, let's make this." So, he took it and he got it all working inside ClickFunnels, and spent his whole weekend doing that. Obviously, the elections are coming up right now so I was like, "Let's do some Biden/Trump shirts." And so we got designers to go and design the t-shirts and all sorts of stuff. And, anyway, it's just been this really fun project that we put together, literally in no time. It's crazy, it's been sitting on my hard drive for eight years now. I can't believe I found the PSD files. It looked so cool. In fact, if you want to see it in action, but I'm not sure when this podcast episode will drop, my guess is hopefully the site will be live by then, but it's tshirtsmackdown.com, so you can go see it there. Anyway, so the concept is we picked two different shirts to compete. When the movie Twilight came out, we could have done like Edward versus Joseph, or during The Bachelor season, it could be this person versus that person, or whatever. You pick two competing things, you put them out there and you let the communities of the things all go and vote on it. And so, with this one, we're like less than a month before the election, everyone's really angry about both sides like, "We should capitalize on this as capitalists do." And so, we put this together. And so, Jake on our team went and got a whole bunch of really cool t-shirt designs that he made some for Trump, some for Biden, and we threw it up on the site and... Anyway, they've been killing themselves and it's almost ready to go. So we're excited. It's going to go live. And again, all you guys should go pick your favorite. Go to tshirtsmackdown.com buy which shirt you want to prove... To vote with your wallet. But anyway, I'm telling you this because a lot of times, we have an idea for something. And you're like, "Man, do I spend the time and energy doing this? I have no idea. It's going to take me all this time and I have no idea if it's going to work or not." And all this fear. The reason why I'm able to do crazy things like this without any fear is before I said yes, before we started the process, the first question that we asked was, "If we do this thing, where are we going to get the traffic for it?" That was the question. And if I don't know the answer to that question, then the answer's always no, we're not doing this thing. I have to know that first. And so, that was the first question like, "Where do we get traffic?" And I was like, "Okay well, to get traffic for this means we need a conservative Republican people and we need liberal Democrat people." So, I'm like, "Where do we find these people?" Okay, there's email lists so we can write here, here and here. And then there's email lists we can write here, here and here. Then here's these Facebook pages we can target. Here's the liberal, here's the conservative, here's the... and so we really quickly, as quick as we could, found as many different variations as we could of both sides to know where you get traffic. So, very quickly okay, boom, here's the traffic. I think conservatively we probably said 10,000 to 20,000 clicks in a three to four day period of time, which is how long one of these smackdowns probably end up lasting. And so, "Okay, let's do it." Right. And so now, Nick and Jake and Jamie, have been working on the site on their free hours, after hours and the weekends and stuff. While they're doing that, I just went and texted all these people, "Hey, can I run add your list?" Yes. Can I run run add your list?" Yes. How much does it cost? Okay I want this date? I want this much." And within, I don't know, within 12 minutes, 10 minutes, maybe I had enough traffic lined up to get about somewhere between probably 10,000 to 15,000 clicks, half on the conservative side, half on the liberal side. And so now when the live site flied, I clicked a button and that fast sales will start coming in. So I want to share with you guys, number one because I want to show off and brag about my fun little idea that we had eight years ago that we're finally actually executing on, but number two is for you guys to start thinking about this. That's one of the biggest things people have is spend so much time and energy and effort on their idea and their thought, and then they go and they build their sales message and they build their funnel, and then they're like, "Where do we get traffic?" And that should have been the first question. Not the last. I remember... Man this is pre-ClickFunnels, no, it wasn't pre-Click, it was right when ClickFunnels first came out actually. So maybe about five years probably. I was in London and I spoke at this really cool event. And afterwards, my wife and kids were still gallivanting around London while I was finishing my speaking things. So I sat in the hallway and talked for two or three hours to all the people there, which was really fun. Definitely intimidating as an introvert, but it was still good. Talked to everybody and they ask those questions. I still remember one person asked me this question that I'd never answered before. No one had ever asked me before, but he asked the question he said, "Man, you've been doing this so long, how do you know that something's going to be successful before you do it now?" And I started thinking and he was right, I do know. I haven't failed at this game in a long time. I failed a lot initially and I failed more than you've tried, I guarantee that. Hundreds of times we launched funnels that did not actually work. And I would say in the last five or six years, pretty much all of them have worked. And so the question was like, "What do you do differently? What do you know? What's the answer?" And before I give you that answer, I'm going to catch a really quick sponsor from myself and I'll be right back to answer it here in a second. Okay. You text me at Community, come on let's just do it. Anyway. All right, so let me answer the question. The question goes like, "How do you know the funnel is going to be successful before you build the funnel out?" And the answer I told him is, the first time someone ever asked me that, first time I ever answered, I told him, I said, "Hey, the reason why I do this is because I find the traffic source first. I don't go and create a product that I want to create, I'll go and take my best idea, I go and find the traffic source first and figure how much the traffic is going to cost, what does it looked like. I figure things out, and then the question I ask myself, "Okay, here's the traffic, here's the market, what does the market actually want?" And then I started brainstorming ideas. That way when the idea is done and the sales message is done and the funnel is done, I know the traffic so I just click a button and traffic shows up. And so, while you're thinking about that, as you're building your businesses where you are, in any spot you are right now, they just imagine like as soon as your thing is done where's the traffic going to come from? Where's that place? Do you have it already? Do you know where it is? If not stop everything and just go figure that out. Go figure out where is the traffic going to come from before you spend all the time and the effort and energy trying to figure out what you're going to create. And honestly, when you figure out what the traffic's at and you figure out how in the world to get access to this traffic, what's it going to take? Who do I need to get to know? Who's the person that's going to sell me the ads? How much does it cost? All these things you're going to start figuring out at that time. Then when you find that traffic source and the best things to do, like let's say it's email traffic you're going to rely on, get on that email list and get all the emails come in, and then that way, as you see the emails like, "Oh, I see this offer and this offer. Here's all the offers that are being sent out to this group of people now I know what this kind of person is responding to," Or if you're following them on Facebook pages and you start seeing your everybody's adds you're like, "Oh, now I know what this type of person is looking for. What kind of offers are working," it'll stimulate the ideas for the offers and the products that you actually want to create. So that's the key guys. That's what we help understand is that a lot of times, most of us do it backwards instead of doing it backwards, the first goal should be where's the traffic? Where's the traffic at now so I can go find it and then go and figure out your product, figure out your funnel, figure out your sales message. Find the traffic first. If you haven't yet, I'd highly recommend reading the Traffic Secrets book. I talk a lot about this. In the first phase for me how I find the traffic is going through the Dream 100. In fact, it's crazy in our 2 Comma Club X Coaching Program. It's 25,000 a year coaching program. People come in and I think everyone thinks I'm going to give them some magic sauce that I've never talked about before. And module number one, literally I force them to actually build out their dream 100 list. They be like, "Why? I thought I was here to make money." Exactly. Right now, our job is to figure out who are the people who already have your traffic. Where are they at? The better I understand that person, that group, the more successful I'm going to be because now I know what are all the other offers they're going out there. Who's controlling the traffic. How do I get to know them? Can I buy my way in? Can I work my way in? All the other things. And so, anyway, that's the one I shared yesterday, just looking at things a little differently. We were able to launch the site. My guys spent the weekend plowing through, getting it done, getting the designs, getting the program and getting it all into ClickFunnels and everything. And then I spent 12 minutes texting the people who I know have the traffic and now we're ready to rock and roll. And that's how the game was played. It was fun. For the T-shirts smackdown is every week, we're going to have a new smackdown. And so right now the smackdown is... next two or three weeks is going to be the politics. And after that guess what's going to be? I don't know yet, but I know I'm going to know where the traffic's at before I go in and do the thing. I'm going to go say, "Where's the traffic at for... " Let's say it's some movie coming out. Or maybe it's the finalists on The Bachelor, maybe it's who knows. I'm going to go and find the traffic first, like where I'll actually get that traffic from before we design the t-shirt, before we get the thing created, otherwise it's just going to be a waste of time, energy, and money. And that's how we play the game. All right. Hope that helps you guys. I appreciate you all. If you got any value from this episode, please take a snapshot, post it on your social profiles and tag me in it and let me know your biggest takeaway. It would mean the world to me. I read every one of them and I'll definitely read yours as well. Thanks so much guys, and I'll talk to you all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:00:00 -0000 What I Do To Guarantee My Funnel's Success full 354 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The missing step that most people forget, before you create a product or build a funnel. The missing step that most people forget, before you create a product or build a funnel. Over the weekend, my personal team’s funnel builder…Nick…and I launched a funnel at the spur of the moment just because we thought it would be fun. It’s from an idea I’ve had for 8 years and it’s just been sitting on my hard drive. The funnel was literally hatched, built, and launched in 2 days. And already we’ve had a bunch of sales! Now here’s the crucial part. This is the place where many entrepreneurs mess up. They spend a ton of time…weeks, months, even YEARS…developing and creating something, only to find out that when they launch it, nobody buys. Nobody wants what they have. And that’s because they didn’t ask themselves this ONE CRITICAL QUESTION… The one question that will tell you whether you should spend the time creating a product, service, or offer, or you should pass on the project. If you want to save yourself a ton of time, frustration, and stress, then tune in to this episode of Marketing Secrets to find out what the question is and WHY it’s so important to your entire business. ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I want to teach you a trick today to make sure that every campaign and every funnel you build, always wins. All right, everybody so I wanted to do this episode because I was bored this weekend, not really bored, I'm never bored, we’ve got a lot of stuff going on, but Friday we were about to leave the office and then one of the guys on my team, Nick Sanders, was like, "Hey, do we have any fun project you want to do on the side that'd be kind of fun?" I was like, "What is a fun project that we have on the side that we can just do real quick?" And he's like, "I got some time this weekend, I'd love to just bust something out". I'm like, "Okay." We started thinking back and I remembered that eight years ago, I had this idea for a site called T-shirt smackdown. And the concept was picking two competing concepts or philosophies or whatever, and make a t-shirt for each one and let people vote with their wallets. So, they come to the site and they're like, "Oh, I want this one to win." So they buy the t-shirt to make sure that that one wins, right? And so, I remember I designed this... the site we had designed eight years ago because... So funny, because it was back when Obama was running against Romney. And so, in fact, the initial PSD files we found had the Obama versus Romney thing, and so it was kind of fun. Anyway we found those PSD files and were like, "Dude, let's make this." So, he took it and he got it all working inside ClickFunnels, and spent his whole weekend doing that. Obviously, the elections are coming up right now so I was like, "Let's do some Biden/Trump shirts." And so we got designers to go and design the t-shirts and all sorts of stuff. And, anyway, it's just been this really fun project that we put together, literally in no time. It's crazy, it's been sitting on my hard drive for eight years now. I can't believe I found the PSD files. It looked so cool. In fact, if you want to see it in action, but I'm not sure when this podcast episode will drop, my guess is hopefully the site will be live by then, but it's tshirtsmackdown.com, so you can go see it there. Anyway, so the concept is we picked two different shirts to compete. When the movie Twilight came out, we could have done like Edward versus Joseph, or during The Bachelor season, it could be this person versus that person, or whatever. You pick two competing things, you put them out there and you let the communities of the things all go and vote on it. And so, with this one, we're like less than a month before the election, everyone's really angry about both sides like, "We should capitalize on this as capitalists do." And so, we put this together. And so, Jake on our team went and got a whole bunch of really cool t-shirt designs that he made some for Trump, some for Biden, and we threw it up on the site and... Anyway, they've been killing themselves and it's almost ready to go. So we're excited. It's going to go live. And again, all you guys should go pick your favorite. Go to tshirtsmackdown.com buy which shirt you want to prove... To vote with your wallet. But anyway, I'm telling you this because a lot of times, we have an idea for something. And you're like, "Man, do I spend the time and energy doing this? I have no idea. It's going to take me all this time and I have no idea if it's going to work or not." And all this fear. The reason why I'm able to do crazy things like this without any fear is before I said yes, before we started the process, the first question that we asked was, "If we do this thing, where are we going to get the traffic for it?" That was the question. And if I don't know the answer to that question, then the answer's always no, we're not doing this thing. I have to know that first. And so, that was the first question like, "Where do we get traffic?" And I was like, "Okay well, to get traffic for this means we need a conservative Republican people and we need liberal Democrat people." So, I'm like, "Where do we find these people?" Okay, there's email lists so we can write here, here and here. And then there's email lists we can write here, here and here. Then here's these Facebook pages we can target. Here's the liberal, here's the conservative, here's the... and so we really quickly, as quick as we could, found as many different variations as we could of both sides to know where you get traffic. So, very quickly okay, boom, here's the traffic. I think conservatively we probably said 10,000 to 20,000 clicks in a three to four day period of time, which is how long one of these smackdowns probably end up lasting. And so, "Okay, let's do it." Right. And so now, Nick and Jake and Jamie, have been working on the site on their free hours, after hours and the weekends and stuff. While they're doing that, I just went and texted all these people, "Hey, can I run add your list?" Yes. Can I run run add your list?" Yes. How much does it cost? Okay I want this date? I want this much." And within, I don't know, within 12 minutes, 10 minutes, maybe I had enough traffic lined up to get about somewhere between probably 10,000 to 15,000 clicks, half on the conservative side, half on the liberal side. And so now when the live site flied, I clicked a button and that fast sales will start coming in. So I want to share with you guys, number one because I want to show off and brag about my fun little idea that we had eight years ago that we're finally actually executing on, but number two is for you guys to start thinking about this. That's one of the biggest things people have is spend so much time and energy and effort on their idea and their thought, and then they go and they build their sales message and they build their funnel, and then they're like, "Where do we get traffic?" And that should have been the first question. Not the last. I remember... Man this is pre-ClickFunnels, no, it wasn't pre-Click, it was right when ClickFunnels first came out actually. So maybe about five years probably. I was in London and I spoke at this really cool event. And afterwards, my wife and kids were still gallivanting around London while I was finishing my speaking things. So I sat in the hallway and talked for two or three hours to all the people there, which was really fun. Definitely intimidating as an introvert, but it was still good. Talked to everybody and they ask those questions. I still remember one person asked me this question that I'd never answered before. No one had ever asked me before, but he asked the question he said, "Man, you've been doing this so long, how do you know that something's going to be successful before you do it now?" And I started thinking and he was right, I do know. I haven't failed at this game in a long time. I failed a lot initially and I failed more than you've tried, I guarantee that. Hundreds of times we launched funnels that did not actually work. And I would say in the last five or six years, pretty much all of them have worked. And so the question was like, "What do you do differently? What do you know? What's the answer?" And before I give you that answer, I'm going to catch a really quick sponsor from myself and I'll be right back to answer it here in a second. Okay. You text me at Community, come on let's just do it. Anyway. All right, so let me answer the question. The question goes like, "How do you know the funnel is going to be successful before you build the funnel out?" And the answer I told him is, the first time someone ever asked me that, first time I ever answered, I told him, I said, "Hey, the reason why I do this is because I find the traffic source first. I don't go and create a product that I want to create, I'll go and take my best idea, I go and find the traffic source first and figure how much the traffic is going to cost, what does it looked like. I figure things out, and then the question I ask myself, "Okay, here's the traffic, here's the market, what does the market actually want?" And then I started brainstorming ideas. That way when the idea is done and the sales message is done and the funnel is done, I know the traffic so I just click a button and traffic shows up. And so, while you're thinking about that, as you're building your businesses where you are, in any spot you are right now, they just imagine like as soon as your thing is done where's the traffic going to come from? Where's that place? Do you have it already? Do you know where it is? If not stop everything and just go figure that out. Go figure out where is the traffic going to come from before you spend all the time and the effort and energy trying to figure out what you're going to create. And honestly, when you figure out what the traffic's at and you figure out how in the world to get access to this traffic, what's it going to take? Who do I need to get to know? Who's the person that's going to sell me the ads? How much does it cost? All these things you're going to start figuring out at that time. Then when you find that traffic source and the best things to do, like let's say it's email traffic you're going to rely on, get on that email list and get all the emails come in, and then that way, as you see the emails like, "Oh, I see this offer and this offer. Here's all the offers that are being sent out to this group of people now I know what this kind of person is responding to," Or if you're following them on Facebook pages and you start seeing your everybody's adds you're like, "Oh, now I know what this type of person is looking for. What kind of offers are working," it'll stimulate the ideas for the offers and the products that you actually want to create. So that's the key guys. That's what we help understand is that a lot of times, most of us do it backwards instead of doing it backwards, the first goal should be where's the traffic? Where's the traffic at now so I can go find it and then go and figure out your product, figure out your funnel, figure out your sales message. Find the traffic first. If you haven't yet, I'd highly recommend reading the Traffic Secrets book. I talk a lot about this. In the first phase for me how I find the traffic is going through the Dream 100. In fact, it's crazy in our 2 Comma Club X Coaching Program. It's 25,000 a year coaching program. People come in and I think everyone thinks I'm going to give them some magic sauce that I've never talked about before. And module number one, literally I force them to actually build out their dream 100 list. They be like, "Why? I thought I was here to make money." Exactly. Right now, our job is to figure out who are the people who already have your traffic. Where are they at? The better I understand that person, that group, the more successful I'm going to be because now I know what are all the other offers they're going out there. Who's controlling the traffic. How do I get to know them? Can I buy my way in? Can I work my way in? All the other things. And so, anyway, that's the one I shared yesterday, just looking at things a little differently. We were able to launch the site. My guys spent the weekend plowing through, getting it done, getting the designs, getting the program and getting it all into ClickFunnels and everything. And then I spent 12 minutes texting the people who I know have the traffic and now we're ready to rock and roll. And that's how the game was played. It was fun. For the T-shirts smackdown is every week, we're going to have a new smackdown. And so right now the smackdown is... next two or three weeks is going to be the politics. And after that guess what's going to be? I don't know yet, but I know I'm going to know where the traffic's at before I go in and do the thing. I'm going to go say, "Where's the traffic at for... " Let's say it's some movie coming out. Or maybe it's the finalists on The Bachelor, maybe it's who knows. I'm going to go and find the traffic first, like where I'll actually get that traffic from before we design the t-shirt, before we get the thing created, otherwise it's just going to be a waste of time, energy, and money. And that's how we play the game. All right. Hope that helps you guys. I appreciate you all. If you got any value from this episode, please take a snapshot, post it on your social profiles and tag me in it and let me know your biggest takeaway. It would mean the world to me. I read every one of them and I'll definitely read yours as well. Thanks so much guys, and I'll talk to you all soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The missing step that most people forget, before you create a product or build a funnel.

Over the weekend, my personal team’s funnel builder…Nick…and I launched a funnel at the spur of the moment just because we thought it would be fun. It’s from an idea I’ve had for 8 years and it’s just been sitting on my hard drive. The funnel was literally hatched, built, and launched in 2 days. And already we’ve had a bunch of sales!

Now here’s the crucial part. This is the place where many entrepreneurs mess up. They spend a ton of time…weeks, months, even YEARS…developing and creating something, only to find out that when they launch it, nobody buys. Nobody wants what they have.

And that’s because they didn’t ask themselves this ONE CRITICAL QUESTION… The one question that will tell you whether you should spend the time creating a product, service, or offer, or you should pass on the project.

If you want to save yourself a ton of time, frustration, and stress, then tune in to this episode of Marketing Secrets to find out what the question is and WHY it’s so important to your entire business.

---Transcript---

What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I want to teach you a trick today to make sure that every campaign and every funnel you build, always wins.

All right, everybody so I wanted to do this episode because I was bored this weekend, not really bored, I'm never bored, we’ve got a lot of stuff going on, but Friday we were about to leave the office and then one of the guys on my team, Nick Sanders, was like, "Hey, do we have any fun project you want to do on the side that'd be kind of fun?" I was like, "What is a fun project that we have on the side that we can just do real quick?" And he's like, "I got some time this weekend, I'd love to just bust something out". I'm like, "Okay."

We started thinking back and I remembered that eight years ago, I had this idea for a site called T-shirt smackdown. And the concept was picking two competing concepts or philosophies or whatever, and make a t-shirt for each one and let people vote with their wallets.

So, they come to the site and they're like, "Oh, I want this one to win." So they buy the t-shirt to make sure that that one wins, right? And so, I remember I designed this... the site we had designed eight years ago because... So funny, because it was back when Obama was running against Romney. And so, in fact, the initial PSD files we found had the Obama versus Romney thing, and so it was kind of fun.

Anyway we found those PSD files and were like, "Dude, let's make this." So, he took it and he got it all working inside ClickFunnels, and spent his whole weekend doing that.

Obviously, the elections are coming up right now so I was like, "Let's do some Biden/Trump shirts." And so we got designers to go and design the t-shirts and all sorts of stuff. And, anyway, it's just been this really fun project that we put together, literally in no time. It's crazy, it's been sitting on my hard drive for eight years now. I can't believe I found the PSD files. It looked so cool. In fact, if you want to see it in action, but I'm not sure when this podcast episode will drop, my guess is hopefully the site will be live by then, but it's tshirtsmackdown.com, so you can go see it there.

Anyway, so the concept is we picked two different shirts to compete. When the movie Twilight came out, we could have done like Edward versus Joseph, or during The Bachelor season, it could be this person versus that person, or whatever. You pick two competing things, you put them out there and you let the communities of the things all go and vote on it.

And so, with this one, we're like less than a month before the election, everyone's really angry about both sides like, "We should capitalize on this as capitalists do." And so, we put this together. And so, Jake on our team went and got a whole bunch of really cool t-shirt designs that he made some for Trump, some for Biden, and we threw it up on the site and... Anyway, they've been killing themselves and it's almost ready to go. So we're excited. It's going to go live. And again, all you guys should go pick your favorite. Go to tshirtsmackdown.com buy which shirt you want to prove... To vote with your wallet.

But anyway, I'm telling you this because a lot of times, we have an idea for something. And you're like, "Man, do I spend the time and energy doing this? I have no idea. It's going to take me all this time and I have no idea if it's going to work or not." And all this fear.

The reason why I'm able to do crazy things like this without any fear is before I said yes, before we started the process, the first question that we asked was, "If we do this thing, where are we going to get the traffic for it?" That was the question. And if I don't know the answer to that question, then the answer's always no, we're not doing this thing. I have to know that first. And so, that was the first question like, "Where do we get traffic?" And I was like, "Okay well, to get traffic for this means we need a conservative Republican people and we need liberal Democrat people." So, I'm like, "Where do we find these people?" Okay, there's email lists so we can write here, here and here. And then there's email lists we can write here, here and here.

Then here's these Facebook pages we can target. Here's the liberal, here's the conservative, here's the... and so we really quickly, as quick as we could, found as many different variations as we could of both sides to know where you get traffic. So, very quickly okay, boom, here's the traffic. I think conservatively we probably said 10,000 to 20,000 clicks in a three to four day period of time, which is how long one of these smackdowns probably end up lasting. And so, "Okay, let's do it." Right.

And so now, Nick and Jake and Jamie, have been working on the site on their free hours, after hours and the weekends and stuff. While they're doing that, I just went and texted all these people, "Hey, can I run add your list?" Yes. Can I run run add your list?" Yes. How much does it cost? Okay I want this date? I want this much." And within, I don't know, within 12 minutes, 10 minutes, maybe I had enough traffic lined up to get about somewhere between probably 10,000 to 15,000 clicks, half on the conservative side, half on the liberal side. And so now when the live site flied, I clicked a button and that fast sales will start coming in.

So I want to share with you guys, number one because I want to show off and brag about my fun little idea that we had eight years ago that we're finally actually executing on, but number two is for you guys to start thinking about this. That's one of the biggest things people have is spend so much time and energy and effort on their idea and their thought, and then they go and they build their sales message and they build their funnel, and then they're like, "Where do we get traffic?" And that should have been the first question. Not the last.

I remember... Man this is pre-ClickFunnels, no, it wasn't pre-Click, it was right when ClickFunnels first came out actually. So maybe about five years probably. I was in London and I spoke at this really cool event. And afterwards, my wife and kids were still gallivanting around London while I was finishing my speaking things. So I sat in the hallway and talked for two or three hours to all the people there, which was really fun. Definitely intimidating as an introvert, but it was still good. Talked to everybody and they ask those questions.

I still remember one person asked me this question that I'd never answered before. No one had ever asked me before, but he asked the question he said, "Man, you've been doing this so long, how do you know that something's going to be successful before you do it now?" And I started thinking and he was right, I do know. I haven't failed at this game in a long time.

I failed a lot initially and I failed more than you've tried, I guarantee that. Hundreds of times we launched funnels that did not actually work. And I would say in the last five or six years, pretty much all of them have worked. And so the question was like, "What do you do differently? What do you know? What's the answer?" And before I give you that answer, I'm going to catch a really quick sponsor from myself and I'll be right back to answer it here in a second.

Okay. You text me at Community, come on let's just do it. Anyway. All right, so let me answer the question. The question goes like, "How do you know the funnel is going to be successful before you build the funnel out?" And the answer I told him is, the first time someone ever asked me that, first time I ever answered, I told him, I said, "Hey, the reason why I do this is because I find the traffic source first. I don't go and create a product that I want to create, I'll go and take my best idea, I go and find the traffic source first and figure how much the traffic is going to cost, what does it looked like. I figure things out, and then the question I ask myself, "Okay, here's the traffic, here's the market, what does the market actually want?"

And then I started brainstorming ideas. That way when the idea is done and the sales message is done and the funnel is done, I know the traffic so I just click a button and traffic shows up. And so, while you're thinking about that, as you're building your businesses where you are, in any spot you are right now, they just imagine like as soon as your thing is done where's the traffic going to come from? Where's that place? Do you have it already? Do you know where it is? If not stop everything and just go figure that out. Go figure out where is the traffic going to come from before you spend all the time and the effort and energy trying to figure out what you're going to create. And honestly, when you figure out what the traffic's at and you figure out how in the world to get access to this traffic, what's it going to take? Who do I need to get to know?

Who's the person that's going to sell me the ads? How much does it cost? All these things you're going to start figuring out at that time. Then when you find that traffic source and the best things to do, like let's say it's email traffic you're going to rely on, get on that email list and get all the emails come in, and then that way, as you see the emails like, "Oh, I see this offer and this offer. Here's all the offers that are being sent out to this group of people now I know what this kind of person is responding to," Or if you're following them on Facebook pages and you start seeing your everybody's adds you're like, "Oh, now I know what this type of person is looking for. What kind of offers are working," it'll stimulate the ideas for the offers and the products that you actually want to create.

So that's the key guys. That's what we help understand is that a lot of times, most of us do it backwards instead of doing it backwards, the first goal should be where's the traffic? Where's the traffic at now so I can go find it and then go and figure out your product, figure out your funnel, figure out your sales message. Find the traffic first. If you haven't yet, I'd highly recommend reading the Traffic Secrets book. I talk a lot about this. In the first phase for me how I find the traffic is going through the Dream 100. In fact, it's crazy in our 2 Comma Club X Coaching Program. It's 25,000 a year coaching program. People come in and I think everyone thinks I'm going to give them some magic sauce that I've never talked about before. And module number one, literally I force them to actually build out their dream 100 list.

They be like, "Why? I thought I was here to make money." Exactly. Right now, our job is to figure out who are the people who already have your traffic. Where are they at? The better I understand that person, that group, the more successful I'm going to be because now I know what are all the other offers they're going out there. Who's controlling the traffic. How do I get to know them? Can I buy my way in? Can I work my way in? All the other things. And so, anyway, that's the one I shared yesterday, just looking at things a little differently. We were able to launch the site. My guys spent the weekend plowing through, getting it done, getting the designs, getting the program and getting it all into ClickFunnels and everything. And then I spent 12 minutes texting the people who I know have the traffic and now we're ready to rock and roll. And that's how the game was played.

It was fun. For the T-shirts smackdown is every week, we're going to have a new smackdown. And so right now the smackdown is... next two or three weeks is going to be the politics. And after that guess what's going to be? I don't know yet, but I know I'm going to know where the traffic's at before I go in and do the thing. I'm going to go say, "Where's the traffic at for... " Let's say it's some movie coming out. Or maybe it's the finalists on The Bachelor, maybe it's who knows. I'm going to go and find the traffic first, like where I'll actually get that traffic from before we design the t-shirt, before we get the thing created, otherwise it's just going to be a waste of time, energy, and money. And that's how we play the game.

All right. Hope that helps you guys. I appreciate you all. If you got any value from this episode, please take a snapshot, post it on your social profiles and tag me in it and let me know your biggest takeaway. It would mean the world to me. I read every one of them and I'll definitely read yours as well. Thanks so much guys, and I'll talk to you all soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 782 no Why Not Just Be The Best? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-not-just-be-the-best If you’re going to do something, you might as well be the best at it. This past week I spoke at a Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi mastermind event, which was super cool. My wife and I flew to the event in Florida and we stayed at this nice resort. And while we were there, we decided to book some massages. My first massage was just terrible. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but to be honest, I couldn’t wait to get off the massage table. In fact, I didn’t even want to go back for the massage I had booked for the following day.  But…it was already paid for so I bit the bullet, even though I was dreading it. When I got to the massage room, it was a different massage therapist… And one of the best massages I EVER had! AMAZING. And I started thinking about the difference between someone who was ‘average’ at what they do… And someone who was EXTRAORDINARY…an ARTIST…the BEST at what they do. So my question for you is, “Do you want to be just ‘average’ or do you want to be THE BEST at what you do?” Check out this episode of Marketing Secrets to discover how YOU can be the BEST at what you do AND give someone an AMAZING experience. ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. As always, grateful that you are here, grateful we're hanging out and excited to share with you guys something that I think will be helpful in your career, in your life, in your marriage, in your family and everything you do. With that said, let's cue the theme song, and I'll be back in a second. All right. Last weekend was insane. I don't know if I told you this yet. I probably haven't gotten too deep. But I had a chance to go speak at Dean Graziosi's and Tony Robbins event at Tony's studio, which he built this huge studio when COVID hit where you can come in this Zoom room where it's this huge stadium wrapped in Zoom walls. It was crazy. If you follow me on Instagram, you saw the pictures. But anyway, it was really, really special and really fun. And we actually flew there in Tony's private plane, which was crazy. We had a chance to go to his house and it was a really special weekend. But without telling you too much of that, and I wish I could go deeper, so many crazy experience. I could do a three-day call, just talking about all the ahas and takeaways from that. But I will drip them out to you throughout the next few episodes. But there's one thing that was interesting. We decided when we were there, we were there for six days, which was kind of cool. We had a chance to hang out with some really cool people and just relax and take a break a little bit. And at the hotel there's a spa, so like, "Let's go get massages." We signed up for massages two different days. And obviously now with COVID, there's weirdness. Not in Boise. I love Idaho. Idaho is different. But in Florida, where we're at, they have different rules, right? You had to wear face masks more often and all sorts of stuff. We go to get our first massage and I get in there and it was only a 60 minute massage, because that's all they had time for that day or whatever. And the masseuse comes out and she puts on plastic gloves, which was kind of weird. I'm not going to lie, it wasn't my favorite, but I'm like, "Ah, whatever." I'm getting a massage and it was not my favorite massage, partially it was because ... Anyway, there are a lot of reasons why. As I was getting a massage, I was annoyed. I didn't like it. It wouldn't feel good. It was just like ... She was technically giving me a massage, but it was not a good massage. So much so, by the end of my 60 minutes ... Normally, I get a 90 minute massage. But by the end of my 60 minute massage, I just wanted it to be done. It was the longest 60 minutes of my life. I was miserable. I didn't have a good time. And I was even thinking, "I think I hate massages. Maybe I've changed. Maybe I don't like massages anymore. Maybe ... " Whatever. Right? And I was so annoyed when I finally got done, I was like, "Oh, thank heavens it's over. Get me out of here." And I just left. I'm in this beautiful spot and all these amenities. I was like, "No, I'm done. I don't do massages anymore. I don't do spas." I just had a horrible experience. I'm like, "I'm never getting a massage again." And I remember after I got a massage later and then we met afterwards, and I was just like, "That was horrible. I don't ever want to get massage again." And she's like, "Well, we have one booked for tomorrow." I'm like, "I know." I'm like, "I don't really want to go. Should we cancel?" And anyway, it was interesting. The next day I go back, because you have a 24 hour cancellation period. I'm like, "Ah, I have to get a massage." I'm like, "I don't even like massages. This one's going to be 90 minutes. I'm going to be miserable. Ah, just get out of the whole thing." Right? I get there in kind of a bad attitude. And as we're talking to the masseuse and she's a different person and super nice. And we laid out to get massages and she starts massages me. The same thing, she has to wear the plastic gloves, which is kind of annoying, but whatever. Does the massage and this time it is a completely different experience. This person was an artist. It was amazing. It's crazy, because I spent the same amount of money on both massages. Right? And the first one, I wanted to die. I wanted to get off the table. I want to leave. Right? And this next person was insane. They were amazing. The 90 minutes was over and I was like, "Are you kidding me? I want to give you some more money. I just want to flip back over and keep doing this back and forth all day till you're off shift or whatever." It was amazing. And I remember laying there thinking about how just 24 hours earlier, I had a massage from a person, same spots, same everything and how I hated it. And this one was amazing. I could've paid anything to continue this experience longer. And I started thinking about this. Right? Both of these people would consider themselves masseuses. Right? Both of them got paid the same amount money to do the job. But one was an artist. One was great at what they do. And one just did the thing. Right? And I started thinking about my life. Everything I've done, I've tried ... I don't know. I always want to be the best. I remember when I was wrestling, I bought this VHS tape, pre-DVDs. And it was the story about Tom and Terry Brands, who are twin brothers who are wrestlers at Iowa. And I remember the movie started with ... First, Tom Brand's comes on, he says, "My name's Tom Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the best wrestler in the world." And the next one came up. "My name's Terry Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the best wrestler in the whole world." And then that's how it starts. And boom, it goes into their training montage and stuff. And I was just like, "Yes." I remember thinking all the time, "My name's Russell Brunson. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world." Right? And so, because I didn't want to be a good wrestler. I didn't want to be like, okay. I wanted to be the best in the world. And obviously, I never got there, but that was my belief. And so, because of that I got way further than I probably ever should have gotten based on my skill and talent level. Right? I was a state champ. I was an All-American. I took second in the nation in high school, went to college. I was ranked the top 10 in college. Never placed NCA. But, I had a good career. And when I switched to business, it was the same thing. When I got into business, I wasn't just like, "I want to make money." I was like, "I want to be the greatest marketer that's ever lived. If I'm doing this job anywhere, I might as well be amazing at it." Right? And I was just thinking about that so much during this massage, I'm just like, "Both these people have the same job title, but one's amazing. And one's eh." And I think about, for all of us, ... Like with my kids, I'm like, "I don't care what you guys do. I don't care what you want to be when you grow up. But don't just be okay, be the best in the world. How do you become amazing? Not just good, but amazing. What do you have to do different?" I don't know. I don't know how to teach that exactly, more so than just helping you guys want that and desire it. Don't be the crappy masseuse. I think about funnel building. Right? There's tons of people out there teaching funnel building and doing funnel building. You could hire someone and you see people that hire someone and they get a funnel and the funnel sucks. It's just like, you're a funnel builder, become the best in the world. Obsess about. Obsess about design, and copy, and all these things so that when you build someone a funnel, you hand it to them, it should be art. They should be blown away by it. Just the second masseuse, I was blown away. That's the experience you want to give someone. If you can't give someone that experience yet, you need to geek out more. You got to go deeper. You got to become better. Right? Become the best in the world at your art, at your craft, whatever it is. Right? If I was a dentist, I'd be like, "Okay, there's dentists. But there's amazing dentists." There's chiropractic. I don't want to be a good chiropractor. I want to be the best in the world. And there's tiers. There's levels. You see it in every industry. Right? Every industry. I was talking to one of my buddies who's one of the top doctors. He's a certain type of doctor, one of the best in the world. And I was asking about that and he told me, he's like, "If you ever get sick here in Idaho," he's like, "Tell me ahead of time and I'll tell you which doctors to go to." I was like, "Is there really that big of a difference?" He's like, "You have no idea which doctor got a D in their class, which one got an A." Right? "There's definitely a difference. Just because they have a degree does not mean they're the same thing." "If you have someone cutting you open, who do you want? The person who's okay, or the best in the world?" And so, I think there's a couple of things. Number one, it's like, when you're trying to hire someone to do something, don't look for someone who's okay. Go find people who are the best in the world. You know what I mean? Spend the extra money, spend the extra time. Find the best in the world. If you're looking for employees, don't find people that are, "Eh, they're okay." Find the best in the world. Right? And then for you is, don't be okay with, "Oh, I'm okay. I'm good." Don't do that. Be the best in the world. It's not that much harder. Right? I mean, it's going to take more time and effort and energy. But man, when you become the best in the world, people will travel from everywhere to come to you. They'll spend more to get to you. They will do everything, because ... Like right now, I would have paid the second masseuse 10 times what I paid the first one, and happily done it. I would fly her to Boise once a month to give me a massage, that's how good it was. Right? And it's understanding that versus like, "Oh yeah, that was okay. That was good." I don't know, if you put that much love into your craft. Again, and I'm talking to a lot of you who were funnel builders, who are in agencies to find out. Man, put in the time. Don't give a client crap. Make sure you become the best in the world. Understanding all the pieces. How to make a funnel go from good to great? What's the differences, image size, colors, text, copy, video, storytelling, all the things. Don't just dabble, become obsessed. If you watch the way that I build a funnel with my team, I'm obsessive about it. They're like, "Man, you're spending so much time on the headline." I'm like, "Yeah, because that's the most important part." Right? They're like, "Man, you're spending so much time crafting the script in the video." And it's like, "Yes, because I want to be the best in the world. I don't want to be okay." And so, for you guys, I want you to just think into that, how do you become the best? Because if you do that, man, life is better. You'll serve more people. All these things ... Your experiences will increase. I didn't get to have a chance to go speak at Tony's event because I was a good funnel builder, because I had okay companies. It's because I've been obsessed with becoming the best. People who are in that same way, people obsessed with that kind of stuff, they recognize it and they respect it and they follow it. And so, if you want to be in good company with the right people, then obsess about that. Anyway, that's my calling to you guys today. I just want to share that, because it was on the top of my mind during that whole massage. I was just like, "Man, look at this different experience." Right? In everything of my life, I want to find the person who's the best, not the person who's good. Right? And then on the flip-side, I want to become the best. I don't want to be just good. This is for all of you guys. Just like I did when I heard the wrestling video, "My name's Tom Brands. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world. My name's Terry Brands. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world." My name's Russell Brunson. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world. My name's Russell Brunson. I want to be the greatest marketer in the world. What is your thing? What is it that you want to be the greatest in the world at? What are you willing to put in the time, and the effort, and the stress, and the pressure, and the ups and the downs, and the pain to be able to become the best at? Okay? Because when this life is done and it wraps up and it's over, right? Do we want to leave it knowing like, "Man, I became the best at this thing. I loved it so much. I was so passionate about it. I cared enough to make myself the best." Maybe you'll never get it. I never became the best wrestler. But the journey of that meant everything to me. Right? It translated into so many good things in my life. I'm so grateful for every one of those experiences. I didn't become the best, but the pursuit of becoming the best is what gave me the life I have now. And I'm so grateful for it and I wouldn't trade that for anything. Pick what it is. What do you want to be the best in the world at? And then pursue it with your heart, with your soul, with everything you have. And if you do that, man, I promise you, your life will be richer. Your relationships will be fuller and you'll get access to people and things that you never dreamt were possible. With that said, I appreciate you all. If you got any value from this episode, please tag me in it on social so I can see it. Let me know in the comments. Love to hear back from you guys. With that said, thanks so much and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 Oct 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Why Not Just Be The Best? full 353 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you’re going to do something, you might as well be the best at it. If you’re going to do something, you might as well be the best at it. This past week I spoke at a Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi mastermind event, which was super cool. My wife and I flew to the event in Florida and we stayed at this nice resort. And while we were there, we decided to book some massages. My first massage was just terrible. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but to be honest, I couldn’t wait to get off the massage table. In fact, I didn’t even want to go back for the massage I had booked for the following day.  But…it was already paid for so I bit the bullet, even though I was dreading it. When I got to the massage room, it was a different massage therapist… And one of the best massages I EVER had! AMAZING. And I started thinking about the difference between someone who was ‘average’ at what they do… And someone who was EXTRAORDINARY…an ARTIST…the BEST at what they do. So my question for you is, “Do you want to be just ‘average’ or do you want to be THE BEST at what you do?” Check out this episode of Marketing Secrets to discover how YOU can be the BEST at what you do AND give someone an AMAZING experience. ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. As always, grateful that you are here, grateful we're hanging out and excited to share with you guys something that I think will be helpful in your career, in your life, in your marriage, in your family and everything you do. With that said, let's cue the theme song, and I'll be back in a second. All right. Last weekend was insane. I don't know if I told you this yet. I probably haven't gotten too deep. But I had a chance to go speak at Dean Graziosi's and Tony Robbins event at Tony's studio, which he built this huge studio when COVID hit where you can come in this Zoom room where it's this huge stadium wrapped in Zoom walls. It was crazy. If you follow me on Instagram, you saw the pictures. But anyway, it was really, really special and really fun. And we actually flew there in Tony's private plane, which was crazy. We had a chance to go to his house and it was a really special weekend. But without telling you too much of that, and I wish I could go deeper, so many crazy experience. I could do a three-day call, just talking about all the ahas and takeaways from that. But I will drip them out to you throughout the next few episodes. But there's one thing that was interesting. We decided when we were there, we were there for six days, which was kind of cool. We had a chance to hang out with some really cool people and just relax and take a break a little bit. And at the hotel there's a spa, so like, "Let's go get massages." We signed up for massages two different days. And obviously now with COVID, there's weirdness. Not in Boise. I love Idaho. Idaho is different. But in Florida, where we're at, they have different rules, right? You had to wear face masks more often and all sorts of stuff. We go to get our first massage and I get in there and it was only a 60 minute massage, because that's all they had time for that day or whatever. And the masseuse comes out and she puts on plastic gloves, which was kind of weird. I'm not going to lie, it wasn't my favorite, but I'm like, "Ah, whatever." I'm getting a massage and it was not my favorite massage, partially it was because ... Anyway, there are a lot of reasons why. As I was getting a massage, I was annoyed. I didn't like it. It wouldn't feel good. It was just like ... She was technically giving me a massage, but it was not a good massage. So much so, by the end of my 60 minutes ... Normally, I get a 90 minute massage. But by the end of my 60 minute massage, I just wanted it to be done. It was the longest 60 minutes of my life. I was miserable. I didn't have a good time. And I was even thinking, "I think I hate massages. Maybe I've changed. Maybe I don't like massages anymore. Maybe ... " Whatever. Right? And I was so annoyed when I finally got done, I was like, "Oh, thank heavens it's over. Get me out of here." And I just left. I'm in this beautiful spot and all these amenities. I was like, "No, I'm done. I don't do massages anymore. I don't do spas." I just had a horrible experience. I'm like, "I'm never getting a massage again." And I remember after I got a massage later and then we met afterwards, and I was just like, "That was horrible. I don't ever want to get massage again." And she's like, "Well, we have one booked for tomorrow." I'm like, "I know." I'm like, "I don't really want to go. Should we cancel?" And anyway, it was interesting. The next day I go back, because you have a 24 hour cancellation period. I'm like, "Ah, I have to get a massage." I'm like, "I don't even like massages. This one's going to be 90 minutes. I'm going to be miserable. Ah, just get out of the whole thing." Right? I get there in kind of a bad attitude. And as we're talking to the masseuse and she's a different person and super nice. And we laid out to get massages and she starts massages me. The same thing, she has to wear the plastic gloves, which is kind of annoying, but whatever. Does the massage and this time it is a completely different experience. This person was an artist. It was amazing. It's crazy, because I spent the same amount of money on both massages. Right? And the first one, I wanted to die. I wanted to get off the table. I want to leave. Right? And this next person was insane. They were amazing. The 90 minutes was over and I was like, "Are you kidding me? I want to give you some more money. I just want to flip back over and keep doing this back and forth all day till you're off shift or whatever." It was amazing. And I remember laying there thinking about how just 24 hours earlier, I had a massage from a person, same spots, same everything and how I hated it. And this one was amazing. I could've paid anything to continue this experience longer. And I started thinking about this. Right? Both of these people would consider themselves masseuses. Right? Both of them got paid the same amount money to do the job. But one was an artist. One was great at what they do. And one just did the thing. Right? And I started thinking about my life. Everything I've done, I've tried ... I don't know. I always want to be the best. I remember when I was wrestling, I bought this VHS tape, pre-DVDs. And it was the story about Tom and Terry Brands, who are twin brothers who are wrestlers at Iowa. And I remember the movie started with ... First, Tom Brand's comes on, he says, "My name's Tom Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the best wrestler in the world." And the next one came up. "My name's Terry Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the best wrestler in the whole world." And then that's how it starts. And boom, it goes into their training montage and stuff. And I was just like, "Yes." I remember thinking all the time, "My name's Russell Brunson. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world." Right? And so, because I didn't want to be a good wrestler. I didn't want to be like, okay. I wanted to be the best in the world. And obviously, I never got there, but that was my belief. And so, because of that I got way further than I probably ever should have gotten based on my skill and talent level. Right? I was a state champ. I was an All-American. I took second in the nation in high school, went to college. I was ranked the top 10 in college. Never placed NCA. But, I had a good career. And when I switched to business, it was the same thing. When I got into business, I wasn't just like, "I want to make money." I was like, "I want to be the greatest marketer that's ever lived. If I'm doing this job anywhere, I might as well be amazing at it." Right? And I was just thinking about that so much during this massage, I'm just like, "Both these people have the same job title, but one's amazing. And one's eh." And I think about, for all of us, ... Like with my kids, I'm like, "I don't care what you guys do. I don't care what you want to be when you grow up. But don't just be okay, be the best in the world. How do you become amazing? Not just good, but amazing. What do you have to do different?" I don't know. I don't know how to teach that exactly, more so than just helping you guys want that and desire it. Don't be the crappy masseuse. I think about funnel building. Right? There's tons of people out there teaching funnel building and doing funnel building. You could hire someone and you see people that hire someone and they get a funnel and the funnel sucks. It's just like, you're a funnel builder, become the best in the world. Obsess about. Obsess about design, and copy, and all these things so that when you build someone a funnel, you hand it to them, it should be art. They should be blown away by it. Just the second masseuse, I was blown away. That's the experience you want to give someone. If you can't give someone that experience yet, you need to geek out more. You got to go deeper. You got to become better. Right? Become the best in the world at your art, at your craft, whatever it is. Right? If I was a dentist, I'd be like, "Okay, there's dentists. But there's amazing dentists." There's chiropractic. I don't want to be a good chiropractor. I want to be the best in the world. And there's tiers. There's levels. You see it in every industry. Right? Every industry. I was talking to one of my buddies who's one of the top doctors. He's a certain type of doctor, one of the best in the world. And I was asking about that and he told me, he's like, "If you ever get sick here in Idaho," he's like, "Tell me ahead of time and I'll tell you which doctors to go to." I was like, "Is there really that big of a difference?" He's like, "You have no idea which doctor got a D in their class, which one got an A." Right? "There's definitely a difference. Just because they have a degree does not mean they're the same thing." "If you have someone cutting you open, who do you want? The person who's okay, or the best in the world?" And so, I think there's a couple of things. Number one, it's like, when you're trying to hire someone to do something, don't look for someone who's okay. Go find people who are the best in the world. You know what I mean? Spend the extra money, spend the extra time. Find the best in the world. If you're looking for employees, don't find people that are, "Eh, they're okay." Find the best in the world. Right? And then for you is, don't be okay with, "Oh, I'm okay. I'm good." Don't do that. Be the best in the world. It's not that much harder. Right? I mean, it's going to take more time and effort and energy. But man, when you become the best in the world, people will travel from everywhere to come to you. They'll spend more to get to you. They will do everything, because ... Like right now, I would have paid the second masseuse 10 times what I paid the first one, and happily done it. I would fly her to Boise once a month to give me a massage, that's how good it was. Right? And it's understanding that versus like, "Oh yeah, that was okay. That was good." I don't know, if you put that much love into your craft. Again, and I'm talking to a lot of you who were funnel builders, who are in agencies to find out. Man, put in the time. Don't give a client crap. Make sure you become the best in the world. Understanding all the pieces. How to make a funnel go from good to great? What's the differences, image size, colors, text, copy, video, storytelling, all the things. Don't just dabble, become obsessed. If you watch the way that I build a funnel with my team, I'm obsessive about it. They're like, "Man, you're spending so much time on the headline." I'm like, "Yeah, because that's the most important part." Right? They're like, "Man, you're spending so much time crafting the script in the video." And it's like, "Yes, because I want to be the best in the world. I don't want to be okay." And so, for you guys, I want you to just think into that, how do you become the best? Because if you do that, man, life is better. You'll serve more people. All these things ... Your experiences will increase. I didn't get to have a chance to go speak at Tony's event because I was a good funnel builder, because I had okay companies. It's because I've been obsessed with becoming the best. People who are in that same way, people obsessed with that kind of stuff, they recognize it and they respect it and they follow it. And so, if you want to be in good company with the right people, then obsess about that. Anyway, that's my calling to you guys today. I just want to share that, because it was on the top of my mind during that whole massage. I was just like, "Man, look at this different experience." Right? In everything of my life, I want to find the person who's the best, not the person who's good. Right? And then on the flip-side, I want to become the best. I don't want to be just good. This is for all of you guys. Just like I did when I heard the wrestling video, "My name's Tom Brands. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world. My name's Terry Brands. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world." My name's Russell Brunson. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world. My name's Russell Brunson. I want to be the greatest marketer in the world. What is your thing? What is it that you want to be the greatest in the world at? What are you willing to put in the time, and the effort, and the stress, and the pressure, and the ups and the downs, and the pain to be able to become the best at? Okay? Because when this life is done and it wraps up and it's over, right? Do we want to leave it knowing like, "Man, I became the best at this thing. I loved it so much. I was so passionate about it. I cared enough to make myself the best." Maybe you'll never get it. I never became the best wrestler. But the journey of that meant everything to me. Right? It translated into so many good things in my life. I'm so grateful for every one of those experiences. I didn't become the best, but the pursuit of becoming the best is what gave me the life I have now. And I'm so grateful for it and I wouldn't trade that for anything. Pick what it is. What do you want to be the best in the world at? And then pursue it with your heart, with your soul, with everything you have. And if you do that, man, I promise you, your life will be richer. Your relationships will be fuller and you'll get access to people and things that you never dreamt were possible. With that said, I appreciate you all. If you got any value from this episode, please tag me in it on social so I can see it. Let me know in the comments. Love to hear back from you guys. With that said, thanks so much and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you’re going to do something, you might as well be the best at it.

This past week I spoke at a Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi mastermind event, which was super cool. My wife and I flew to the event in Florida and we stayed at this nice resort.

And while we were there, we decided to book some massages. My first massage was just terrible. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but to be honest, I couldn’t wait to get off the massage table. In fact, I didn’t even want to go back for the massage I had booked for the following day.  But…it was already paid for so I bit the bullet, even though I was dreading it.

When I got to the massage room, it was a different massage therapist… And one of the best massages I EVER had! AMAZING. And I started thinking about the difference between someone who was ‘average’ at what they do… And someone who was EXTRAORDINARY…an ARTIST…the BEST at what they do.

So my question for you is, “Do you want to be just ‘average’ or do you want to be THE BEST at what you do?”

Check out this episode of Marketing Secrets to discover how YOU can be the BEST at what you do AND give someone an AMAZING experience.

---Transcript---

What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. As always, grateful that you are here, grateful we're hanging out and excited to share with you guys something that I think will be helpful in your career, in your life, in your marriage, in your family and everything you do. With that said, let's cue the theme song, and I'll be back in a second.

All right. Last weekend was insane. I don't know if I told you this yet. I probably haven't gotten too deep. But I had a chance to go speak at Dean Graziosi's and Tony Robbins event at Tony's studio, which he built this huge studio when COVID hit where you can come in this Zoom room where it's this huge stadium wrapped in Zoom walls. It was crazy. If you follow me on Instagram, you saw the pictures. But anyway, it was really, really special and really fun. And we actually flew there in Tony's private plane, which was crazy. We had a chance to go to his house and it was a really special weekend.

But without telling you too much of that, and I wish I could go deeper, so many crazy experience. I could do a three-day call, just talking about all the ahas and takeaways from that. But I will drip them out to you throughout the next few episodes. But there's one thing that was interesting. We decided when we were there, we were there for six days, which was kind of cool. We had a chance to hang out with some really cool people and just relax and take a break a little bit. And at the hotel there's a spa, so like, "Let's go get massages." We signed up for massages two different days. And obviously now with COVID, there's weirdness. Not in Boise. I love Idaho. Idaho is different.

But in Florida, where we're at, they have different rules, right? You had to wear face masks more often and all sorts of stuff. We go to get our first massage and I get in there and it was only a 60 minute massage, because that's all they had time for that day or whatever. And the masseuse comes out and she puts on plastic gloves, which was kind of weird. I'm not going to lie, it wasn't my favorite, but I'm like, "Ah, whatever." I'm getting a massage and it was not my favorite massage, partially it was because ... Anyway, there are a lot of reasons why. As I was getting a massage, I was annoyed. I didn't like it. It wouldn't feel good. It was just like ... She was technically giving me a massage, but it was not a good massage.

So much so, by the end of my 60 minutes ... Normally, I get a 90 minute massage. But by the end of my 60 minute massage, I just wanted it to be done. It was the longest 60 minutes of my life. I was miserable. I didn't have a good time. And I was even thinking, "I think I hate massages. Maybe I've changed. Maybe I don't like massages anymore. Maybe ... " Whatever. Right? And I was so annoyed when I finally got done, I was like, "Oh, thank heavens it's over. Get me out of here." And I just left. I'm in this beautiful spot and all these amenities. I was like, "No, I'm done. I don't do massages anymore. I don't do spas." I just had a horrible experience. I'm like, "I'm never getting a massage again."

And I remember after I got a massage later and then we met afterwards, and I was just like, "That was horrible. I don't ever want to get massage again." And she's like, "Well, we have one booked for tomorrow." I'm like, "I know." I'm like, "I don't really want to go. Should we cancel?" And anyway, it was interesting. The next day I go back, because you have a 24 hour cancellation period. I'm like, "Ah, I have to get a massage." I'm like, "I don't even like massages. This one's going to be 90 minutes. I'm going to be miserable. Ah, just get out of the whole thing." Right? I get there in kind of a bad attitude. And as we're talking to the masseuse and she's a different person and super nice. And we laid out to get massages and she starts massages me.

The same thing, she has to wear the plastic gloves, which is kind of annoying, but whatever. Does the massage and this time it is a completely different experience. This person was an artist. It was amazing. It's crazy, because I spent the same amount of money on both massages. Right? And the first one, I wanted to die. I wanted to get off the table. I want to leave. Right? And this next person was insane. They were amazing. The 90 minutes was over and I was like, "Are you kidding me? I want to give you some more money. I just want to flip back over and keep doing this back and forth all day till you're off shift or whatever." It was amazing.

And I remember laying there thinking about how just 24 hours earlier, I had a massage from a person, same spots, same everything and how I hated it. And this one was amazing. I could've paid anything to continue this experience longer. And I started thinking about this. Right? Both of these people would consider themselves masseuses. Right? Both of them got paid the same amount money to do the job. But one was an artist. One was great at what they do. And one just did the thing. Right? And I started thinking about my life. Everything I've done, I've tried ... I don't know. I always want to be the best.

I remember when I was wrestling, I bought this VHS tape, pre-DVDs. And it was the story about Tom and Terry Brands, who are twin brothers who are wrestlers at Iowa. And I remember the movie started with ... First, Tom Brand's comes on, he says, "My name's Tom Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the best wrestler in the world." And the next one came up. "My name's Terry Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the best wrestler in the whole world." And then that's how it starts. And boom, it goes into their training montage and stuff. And I was just like, "Yes." I remember thinking all the time, "My name's Russell Brunson. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world." Right?

And so, because I didn't want to be a good wrestler. I didn't want to be like, okay. I wanted to be the best in the world. And obviously, I never got there, but that was my belief. And so, because of that I got way further than I probably ever should have gotten based on my skill and talent level. Right? I was a state champ. I was an All-American. I took second in the nation in high school, went to college. I was ranked the top 10 in college. Never placed NCA. But, I had a good career. And when I switched to business, it was the same thing. When I got into business, I wasn't just like, "I want to make money." I was like, "I want to be the greatest marketer that's ever lived. If I'm doing this job anywhere, I might as well be amazing at it." Right?

And I was just thinking about that so much during this massage, I'm just like, "Both these people have the same job title, but one's amazing. And one's eh." And I think about, for all of us, ... Like with my kids, I'm like, "I don't care what you guys do. I don't care what you want to be when you grow up. But don't just be okay, be the best in the world. How do you become amazing? Not just good, but amazing. What do you have to do different?" I don't know. I don't know how to teach that exactly, more so than just helping you guys want that and desire it. Don't be the crappy masseuse. I think about funnel building. Right? There's tons of people out there teaching funnel building and doing funnel building.

You could hire someone and you see people that hire someone and they get a funnel and the funnel sucks. It's just like, you're a funnel builder, become the best in the world. Obsess about. Obsess about design, and copy, and all these things so that when you build someone a funnel, you hand it to them, it should be art. They should be blown away by it. Just the second masseuse, I was blown away. That's the experience you want to give someone. If you can't give someone that experience yet, you need to geek out more. You got to go deeper. You got to become better. Right? Become the best in the world at your art, at your craft, whatever it is. Right?

If I was a dentist, I'd be like, "Okay, there's dentists. But there's amazing dentists." There's chiropractic. I don't want to be a good chiropractor. I want to be the best in the world. And there's tiers. There's levels. You see it in every industry. Right? Every industry. I was talking to one of my buddies who's one of the top doctors. He's a certain type of doctor, one of the best in the world. And I was asking about that and he told me, he's like, "If you ever get sick here in Idaho," he's like, "Tell me ahead of time and I'll tell you which doctors to go to." I was like, "Is there really that big of a difference?" He's like, "You have no idea which doctor got a D in their class, which one got an A." Right? "There's definitely a difference. Just because they have a degree does not mean they're the same thing."

"If you have someone cutting you open, who do you want? The person who's okay, or the best in the world?" And so, I think there's a couple of things. Number one, it's like, when you're trying to hire someone to do something, don't look for someone who's okay. Go find people who are the best in the world. You know what I mean? Spend the extra money, spend the extra time. Find the best in the world. If you're looking for employees, don't find people that are, "Eh, they're okay." Find the best in the world. Right? And then for you is, don't be okay with, "Oh, I'm okay. I'm good." Don't do that. Be the best in the world. It's not that much harder. Right? I mean, it's going to take more time and effort and energy.

But man, when you become the best in the world, people will travel from everywhere to come to you. They'll spend more to get to you. They will do everything, because ... Like right now, I would have paid the second masseuse 10 times what I paid the first one, and happily done it. I would fly her to Boise once a month to give me a massage, that's how good it was. Right? And it's understanding that versus like, "Oh yeah, that was okay. That was good." I don't know, if you put that much love into your craft. Again, and I'm talking to a lot of you who were funnel builders, who are in agencies to find out. Man, put in the time. Don't give a client crap. Make sure you become the best in the world. Understanding all the pieces.

How to make a funnel go from good to great? What's the differences, image size, colors, text, copy, video, storytelling, all the things. Don't just dabble, become obsessed. If you watch the way that I build a funnel with my team, I'm obsessive about it. They're like, "Man, you're spending so much time on the headline." I'm like, "Yeah, because that's the most important part." Right? They're like, "Man, you're spending so much time crafting the script in the video." And it's like, "Yes, because I want to be the best in the world. I don't want to be okay." And so, for you guys, I want you to just think into that, how do you become the best?

Because if you do that, man, life is better. You'll serve more people. All these things ... Your experiences will increase. I didn't get to have a chance to go speak at Tony's event because I was a good funnel builder, because I had okay companies. It's because I've been obsessed with becoming the best. People who are in that same way, people obsessed with that kind of stuff, they recognize it and they respect it and they follow it. And so, if you want to be in good company with the right people, then obsess about that. Anyway, that's my calling to you guys today. I just want to share that, because it was on the top of my mind during that whole massage. I was just like, "Man, look at this different experience." Right?

In everything of my life, I want to find the person who's the best, not the person who's good. Right? And then on the flip-side, I want to become the best. I don't want to be just good. This is for all of you guys. Just like I did when I heard the wrestling video, "My name's Tom Brands. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world. My name's Terry Brands. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world." My name's Russell Brunson. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the world. My name's Russell Brunson. I want to be the greatest marketer in the world. What is your thing? What is it that you want to be the greatest in the world at? What are you willing to put in the time, and the effort, and the stress, and the pressure, and the ups and the downs, and the pain to be able to become the best at?

Okay? Because when this life is done and it wraps up and it's over, right? Do we want to leave it knowing like, "Man, I became the best at this thing. I loved it so much. I was so passionate about it. I cared enough to make myself the best." Maybe you'll never get it. I never became the best wrestler. But the journey of that meant everything to me. Right? It translated into so many good things in my life. I'm so grateful for every one of those experiences. I didn't become the best, but the pursuit of becoming the best is what gave me the life I have now. And I'm so grateful for it and I wouldn't trade that for anything.

Pick what it is. What do you want to be the best in the world at? And then pursue it with your heart, with your soul, with everything you have. And if you do that, man, I promise you, your life will be richer. Your relationships will be fuller and you'll get access to people and things that you never dreamt were possible. With that said, I appreciate you all. If you got any value from this episode, please tag me in it on social so I can see it. Let me know in the comments. Love to hear back from you guys. With that said, thanks so much and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 843 no My New Favorite Marketing App!!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-new-favorite-marketing-app This new distribution channel may be the biggest thing since email. I’m always saying how important it is not to get married to any SINGLE distribution channel or platform for your traffic… Like depending solely on Facebook, or Google, or Instagram, or YouTube, or email, or chatbots, or texts. Why? Because relying on just one source is dangerous to your business because algorithms change, policies change, rules change, and customer BEHAVIOR changes. I can’t tell you how many times over the years I (and my entrepreneur friends) have found our traffic sources completely dry up or go bye-bye at one point or another. That’s why you have to protect your distribution channel. That’s why I’m SO excited about this new platform that just came out called, Community. It’s a texting platform. What I love is that it bypasses all the same behemoth platforms we’ve all been using for years. With Community, open rates for texts are INSANE and click-through rates are CRAZY high. How would you like to see it in action? I’ll even answer your questions! Then check out this Marketing Secrets episode and I’ll give you ALL THE DETAILS! ---Transcript--- Hey everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing secrets podcast. Today, I want to talk to you guys about something very cool and very important, and it is adding more distribution channels to protect your business from the inevitable. All right. So if you've read traffic secrets, you've heard me talk a lot about this, about the fact that traffic changes all the time. Google snaps and Facebook snap. So all the things that are happening. And so for me, I'm always looking at how do I protect my business? How do I protect my distribution channels? And so for you, my question is what are you doing? Do you have a list? Do you have multiple lists? There was a time when if you had a big fan page on Facebook, you post a video or something, you get millions of views. And now the reach died, right? Some people have email lists and they were sending emails back, 10, 15 years ago and getting 50, 60%, 60% open rate, where now you're lucky if you get 20%, right? You have your Instagram following, YouTube channel, all these things, right. And there's times when they're really good and you get a lot of traffic and things from it. And other times where it goes down and you can lose tons of the effort you put into something. And so I'm all about diversification and protecting your assets and protecting yourself. And there's new platform that just came out. I'm excited for, I've seen it for a while. I saw Gary V use it. I saw other people use it. And it's this really cool platform called Community. It's something that I fought against a little bit until this weekend. I was actually speaking at Tony Robbins' event, hanging out with the speakers afterwards and Trent Sheldon, who, if you don't know Trent, he is awesome. He's such a cool dude. And he was showing me his Community platform. I think, I don't know exact numbers, he has almost a 100,000 people that are on his texting platform. And he spends time everyday trying to respond to as many people as he can. But then every morning sends out a mass text with different quotes and things like that. And then when he has a new video come out or a new offer or whatever his new book comes out, he sends a text message out, letting people know about, "Here's my new video, go check it out and go comment", or "Here's my new thing", whatever. And what's so crazy is it's it bypasses all the traditional things, right? Bypasses email, bypasses Zuckerberg or YouTube or whatever. It bypasses everything and gets directly into people's phones. And he was showing me his stats and it's crazy. The open rate on his texts were 90 something percent, versus email, which you're lucky if you get 15 to 20%. But his click through rates like 23%, which typical email you're looking at like one to 3% click through rate. So it was crazy. And I got excited. So I started my Community... I joined the Community platform. I started sending out something to Instagram last night just to see how it worked. And I got hundreds of people who joined it. And I spent all my last night having conversations with people, it was so much fun. And my goal over the next year or so is trying to build that list up to a 100,000 people, right? It's another distribution channel. Something that if email disappears, I still have this distribution channel that can bypass email. It can bypass other things. Right? And so it's really cool. In fact, if you guys want to see I'm doing experiment, in fact, there's an ad that's going to run through this podcast episode. I just create the ad to start promoting them, start putting this on every single podcast episode. I want you guys joining this thing because that way I'll notify you when every new podcast episode comes out, plus you can get free quotes and I'm going to be sending out different frameworks and whole bunch of really cool things to text everyday. And I want to make sure you're on that list. So to get on the list, all you do is text spirit out area code (208) 231-3797. Okay. One more time. It's (208) 231-3797. If you texted me there, you're going to see the process and it's cool. You'll text me and you'll get a message back. Basically says, "Hey, you know, go join the community in that way". It adds you to my phone. And then I can see you and your name, how old you are, your birthday, all that of stuff. It's kind of cool. And they'll send you my V card where then you can add that to your phone and you'll see a message from me. So it's pretty cool. So when you guys test it out, you can see the process, but I'm sharing this because... And maybe you're going to use Community in your business. Maybe you won't, it doesn't matter. I just want you guys all thinking about adding multiple distribution channels to everything that you're doing. What are the new distribution challenges you can do? You know where the other ones I'm looking at, a lot of... There's a really cool tool called PushCrew. There's a couple of companies that do this, but basically happens is it is on your Chrome browser. When someone comes to your page, it can drop down, says, "Hey, join notifications from Russell or from Neil Patel" or from whoever I see Neil Patel is probably the guy doing the best in our industry and you click on it and now he can send out broadcast to you through your browser. So, let's say Google shuts you down, but if you're using Chrome, you can open up and you can send notifications to people through their Chrome browser. Which is so cool for another distribution channel, which I'm going to be focusing on heavily in building that list up as well. I just, I don't know... As long as I've been in business, I just know that lose your distribution channel, you're in trouble. You'll see some cool moves I'm doing in the next week or two. I'll probably be announcing next week, maybe two weeks from now, I'm acquiring a company specifically because I want their distribution channel. And it's a different distribution channel. It's an offline distribution channel, but I'm acquiring the company specifically because I want the distribution channel. Right? If you look at, I talked about some traffic secrets, you look at shark tank, like all the sharks that are there, are there because they, they understand, they know one distribution channel, right? Like Damon John, his distribution channel is retail, right? He's really good at getting clothing down these distribution channels. He spends his career building this distribution channel. So if he has a new product, he's like, "I know my buyers want this". He can push it through his distribution channel. Right? Other sharks are good infomercials. Lori Greiner's really good to QVC. If she sees a product, she's like, "I can put this on QVC and make a ton of money because I know exactly how that game is played". Right? So every shark has a different distribution channel they're good at. For us as internet nerds, right? What are our distribution channels? We have our email list, which is big. Which is still is probably the most profitable distribution channel we have in our company. So you have your email list, you have your social following. So your followings at Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, things like that. Facebook messenger was awesome for about a year as a distribution channel. And then it literally disappeared, it doesn't work very well anymore. For a while that was awesome. We were building up and having so much fun until it stopped being amazing. You know, they're always coming and they're going, I think text message is a big one. I'm going to be focusing on now, PushCrew's another one. So it's like, what are the distribution channels you can build to give you and your business stability? Because the only thing that we know is not going to change in our businesses is the fact that's going to change all the time. So anyway, that's what I share with you guys is just thinking about that. If you want us to come and play in the new distribution channel that I'm doing, which is this Community app, which I'm really excited for. Then, like I said, text me (208) 231-3797. Just texts me anything. You can be like, "Blah". And then it opens a live chat with me. And then you can ask me a question. And right now in the last 12 hours, since I launched this, I've answered hundreds and hundreds of text messages. Some people are freaking out, it's kind of fun. I won't be able to keep up the pace as they go from a couple of 100 people to a couple 1000, to hopefully a 100,000 people. But as right now, I'm trying to respond as many questions as I can. And I'm going to spend probably 20 to 30 minutes a day responding to questions. So feel free to come drop me a message and hopefully have a chance to respond to you personally. So I appreciate you. Thanks for hanging out. And like I said, give me a text. All right, thanks everybody, will talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 12 Oct 2020 08:00:00 -0000 My New Favorite Marketing App!!! full 352 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This new distribution channel may be the biggest thing since email. This new distribution channel may be the biggest thing since email. I’m always saying how important it is not to get married to any SINGLE distribution channel or platform for your traffic… Like depending solely on Facebook, or Google, or Instagram, or YouTube, or email, or chatbots, or texts. Why? Because relying on just one source is dangerous to your business because algorithms change, policies change, rules change, and customer BEHAVIOR changes. I can’t tell you how many times over the years I (and my entrepreneur friends) have found our traffic sources completely dry up or go bye-bye at one point or another. That’s why you have to protect your distribution channel. That’s why I’m SO excited about this new platform that just came out called, Community. It’s a texting platform. What I love is that it bypasses all the same behemoth platforms we’ve all been using for years. With Community, open rates for texts are INSANE and click-through rates are CRAZY high. How would you like to see it in action? I’ll even answer your questions! Then check out this Marketing Secrets episode and I’ll give you ALL THE DETAILS! ---Transcript--- Hey everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing secrets podcast. Today, I want to talk to you guys about something very cool and very important, and it is adding more distribution channels to protect your business from the inevitable. All right. So if you've read traffic secrets, you've heard me talk a lot about this, about the fact that traffic changes all the time. Google snaps and Facebook snap. So all the things that are happening. And so for me, I'm always looking at how do I protect my business? How do I protect my distribution channels? And so for you, my question is what are you doing? Do you have a list? Do you have multiple lists? There was a time when if you had a big fan page on Facebook, you post a video or something, you get millions of views. And now the reach died, right? Some people have email lists and they were sending emails back, 10, 15 years ago and getting 50, 60%, 60% open rate, where now you're lucky if you get 20%, right? You have your Instagram following, YouTube channel, all these things, right. And there's times when they're really good and you get a lot of traffic and things from it. And other times where it goes down and you can lose tons of the effort you put into something. And so I'm all about diversification and protecting your assets and protecting yourself. And there's new platform that just came out. I'm excited for, I've seen it for a while. I saw Gary V use it. I saw other people use it. And it's this really cool platform called Community. It's something that I fought against a little bit until this weekend. I was actually speaking at Tony Robbins' event, hanging out with the speakers afterwards and Trent Sheldon, who, if you don't know Trent, he is awesome. He's such a cool dude. And he was showing me his Community platform. I think, I don't know exact numbers, he has almost a 100,000 people that are on his texting platform. And he spends time everyday trying to respond to as many people as he can. But then every morning sends out a mass text with different quotes and things like that. And then when he has a new video come out or a new offer or whatever his new book comes out, he sends a text message out, letting people know about, "Here's my new video, go check it out and go comment", or "Here's my new thing", whatever. And what's so crazy is it's it bypasses all the traditional things, right? Bypasses email, bypasses Zuckerberg or YouTube or whatever. It bypasses everything and gets directly into people's phones. And he was showing me his stats and it's crazy. The open rate on his texts were 90 something percent, versus email, which you're lucky if you get 15 to 20%. But his click through rates like 23%, which typical email you're looking at like one to 3% click through rate. So it was crazy. And I got excited. So I started my Community... I joined the Community platform. I started sending out something to Instagram last night just to see how it worked. And I got hundreds of people who joined it. And I spent all my last night having conversations with people, it was so much fun. And my goal over the next year or so is trying to build that list up to a 100,000 people, right? It's another distribution channel. Something that if email disappears, I still have this distribution channel that can bypass email. It can bypass other things. Right? And so it's really cool. In fact, if you guys want to see I'm doing experiment, in fact, there's an ad that's going to run through this podcast episode. I just create the ad to start promoting them, start putting this on every single podcast episode. I want you guys joining this thing because that way I'll notify you when every new podcast episode comes out, plus you can get free quotes and I'm going to be sending out different frameworks and whole bunch of really cool things to text everyday. And I want to make sure you're on that list. So to get on the list, all you do is text spirit out area code (208) 231-3797. Okay. One more time. It's (208) 231-3797. If you texted me there, you're going to see the process and it's cool. You'll text me and you'll get a message back. Basically says, "Hey, you know, go join the community in that way". It adds you to my phone. And then I can see you and your name, how old you are, your birthday, all that of stuff. It's kind of cool. And they'll send you my V card where then you can add that to your phone and you'll see a message from me. So it's pretty cool. So when you guys test it out, you can see the process, but I'm sharing this because... And maybe you're going to use Community in your business. Maybe you won't, it doesn't matter. I just want you guys all thinking about adding multiple distribution channels to everything that you're doing. What are the new distribution challenges you can do? You know where the other ones I'm looking at, a lot of... There's a really cool tool called PushCrew. There's a couple of companies that do this, but basically happens is it is on your Chrome browser. When someone comes to your page, it can drop down, says, "Hey, join notifications from Russell or from Neil Patel" or from whoever I see Neil Patel is probably the guy doing the best in our industry and you click on it and now he can send out broadcast to you through your browser. So, let's say Google shuts you down, but if you're using Chrome, you can open up and you can send notifications to people through their Chrome browser. Which is so cool for another distribution channel, which I'm going to be focusing on heavily in building that list up as well. I just, I don't know... As long as I've been in business, I just know that lose your distribution channel, you're in trouble. You'll see some cool moves I'm doing in the next week or two. I'll probably be announcing next week, maybe two weeks from now, I'm acquiring a company specifically because I want their distribution channel. And it's a different distribution channel. It's an offline distribution channel, but I'm acquiring the company specifically because I want the distribution channel. Right? If you look at, I talked about some traffic secrets, you look at shark tank, like all the sharks that are there, are there because they, they understand, they know one distribution channel, right? Like Damon John, his distribution channel is retail, right? He's really good at getting clothing down these distribution channels. He spends his career building this distribution channel. So if he has a new product, he's like, "I know my buyers want this". He can push it through his distribution channel. Right? Other sharks are good infomercials. Lori Greiner's really good to QVC. If she sees a product, she's like, "I can put this on QVC and make a ton of money because I know exactly how that game is played". Right? So every shark has a different distribution channel they're good at. For us as internet nerds, right? What are our distribution channels? We have our email list, which is big. Which is still is probably the most profitable distribution channel we have in our company. So you have your email list, you have your social following. So your followings at Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, things like that. Facebook messenger was awesome for about a year as a distribution channel. And then it literally disappeared, it doesn't work very well anymore. For a while that was awesome. We were building up and having so much fun until it stopped being amazing. You know, they're always coming and they're going, I think text message is a big one. I'm going to be focusing on now, PushCrew's another one. So it's like, what are the distribution channels you can build to give you and your business stability? Because the only thing that we know is not going to change in our businesses is the fact that's going to change all the time. So anyway, that's what I share with you guys is just thinking about that. If you want us to come and play in the new distribution channel that I'm doing, which is this Community app, which I'm really excited for. Then, like I said, text me (208) 231-3797. Just texts me anything. You can be like, "Blah". And then it opens a live chat with me. And then you can ask me a question. And right now in the last 12 hours, since I launched this, I've answered hundreds and hundreds of text messages. Some people are freaking out, it's kind of fun. I won't be able to keep up the pace as they go from a couple of 100 people to a couple 1000, to hopefully a 100,000 people. But as right now, I'm trying to respond as many questions as I can. And I'm going to spend probably 20 to 30 minutes a day responding to questions. So feel free to come drop me a message and hopefully have a chance to respond to you personally. So I appreciate you. Thanks for hanging out. And like I said, give me a text. All right, thanks everybody, will talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This new distribution channel may be the biggest thing since email.

I’m always saying how important it is not to get married to any SINGLE distribution channel or platform for your traffic… Like depending solely on Facebook, or Google, or Instagram, or YouTube, or email, or chatbots, or texts. Why? Because relying on just one source is dangerous to your business because algorithms change, policies change, rules change, and customer BEHAVIOR changes.

I can’t tell you how many times over the years I (and my entrepreneur friends) have found our traffic sources completely dry up or go bye-bye at one point or another. That’s why you have to protect your distribution channel.

That’s why I’m SO excited about this new platform that just came out called, Community. It’s a texting platform. What I love is that it bypasses all the same behemoth platforms we’ve all been using for years. With Community, open rates for texts are INSANE and click-through rates are CRAZY high.

How would you like to see it in action? I’ll even answer your questions! Then check out this Marketing Secrets episode and I’ll give you ALL THE DETAILS!

---Transcript---

Hey everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the marketing secrets podcast. Today, I want to talk to you guys about something very cool and very important, and it is adding more distribution channels to protect your business from the inevitable. All right. So if you've read traffic secrets, you've heard me talk a lot about this, about the fact that traffic changes all the time. Google snaps and Facebook snap. So all the things that are happening. And so for me, I'm always looking at how do I protect my business? How do I protect my distribution channels? And so for you, my question is what are you doing? Do you have a list? Do you have multiple lists?

There was a time when if you had a big fan page on Facebook, you post a video or something, you get millions of views. And now the reach died, right? Some people have email lists and they were sending emails back, 10, 15 years ago and getting 50, 60%, 60% open rate, where now you're lucky if you get 20%, right? You have your Instagram following, YouTube channel, all these things, right. And there's times when they're really good and you get a lot of traffic and things from it. And other times where it goes down and you can lose tons of the effort you put into something. And so I'm all about diversification and protecting your assets and protecting yourself. And there's new platform that just came out. I'm excited for, I've seen it for a while. I saw Gary V use it. I saw other people use it. And it's this really cool platform called Community. It's something that I fought against a little bit until this weekend.

I was actually speaking at Tony Robbins' event, hanging out with the speakers afterwards and Trent Sheldon, who, if you don't know Trent, he is awesome. He's such a cool dude. And he was showing me his Community platform. I think, I don't know exact numbers, he has almost a 100,000 people that are on his texting platform. And he spends time everyday trying to respond to as many people as he can. But then every morning sends out a mass text with different quotes and things like that. And then when he has a new video come out or a new offer or whatever his new book comes out, he sends a text message out, letting people know about, "Here's my new video, go check it out and go comment", or "Here's my new thing", whatever. And what's so crazy is it's it bypasses all the traditional things, right?

Bypasses email, bypasses Zuckerberg or YouTube or whatever. It bypasses everything and gets directly into people's phones. And he was showing me his stats and it's crazy. The open rate on his texts were 90 something percent, versus email, which you're lucky if you get 15 to 20%. But his click through rates like 23%, which typical email you're looking at like one to 3% click through rate. So it was crazy. And I got excited. So I started my Community... I joined the Community platform. I started sending out something to Instagram last night just to see how it worked. And I got hundreds of people who joined it. And I spent all my last night having conversations with people, it was so much fun. And my goal over the next year or so is trying to build that list up to a 100,000 people, right?

It's another distribution channel. Something that if email disappears, I still have this distribution channel that can bypass email. It can bypass other things. Right? And so it's really cool. In fact, if you guys want to see I'm doing experiment, in fact, there's an ad that's going to run through this podcast episode. I just create the ad to start promoting them, start putting this on every single podcast episode. I want you guys joining this thing because that way I'll notify you when every new podcast episode comes out, plus you can get free quotes and I'm going to be sending out different frameworks and whole bunch of really cool things to text everyday. And I want to make sure you're on that list. So to get on the list, all you do is text spirit out area code (208) 231-3797. Okay. One more time.

It's (208) 231-3797. If you texted me there, you're going to see the process and it's cool. You'll text me and you'll get a message back. Basically says, "Hey, you know, go join the community in that way". It adds you to my phone. And then I can see you and your name, how old you are, your birthday, all that of stuff. It's kind of cool. And they'll send you my V card where then you can add that to your phone and you'll see a message from me. So it's pretty cool. So when you guys test it out, you can see the process, but I'm sharing this because... And maybe you're going to use Community in your business. Maybe you won't, it doesn't matter. I just want you guys all thinking about adding multiple distribution channels to everything that you're doing. What are the new distribution challenges you can do?

You know where the other ones I'm looking at, a lot of... There's a really cool tool called PushCrew. There's a couple of companies that do this, but basically happens is it is on your Chrome browser. When someone comes to your page, it can drop down, says, "Hey, join notifications from Russell or from Neil Patel" or from whoever I see Neil Patel is probably the guy doing the best in our industry and you click on it and now he can send out broadcast to you through your browser. So, let's say Google shuts you down, but if you're using Chrome, you can open up and you can send notifications to people through their Chrome browser. Which is so cool for another distribution channel, which I'm going to be focusing on heavily in building that list up as well. I just, I don't know...

As long as I've been in business, I just know that lose your distribution channel, you're in trouble. You'll see some cool moves I'm doing in the next week or two. I'll probably be announcing next week, maybe two weeks from now, I'm acquiring a company specifically because I want their distribution channel. And it's a different distribution channel. It's an offline distribution channel, but I'm acquiring the company specifically because I want the distribution channel. Right? If you look at, I talked about some traffic secrets, you look at shark tank, like all the sharks that are there, are there because they, they understand, they know one distribution channel, right?

Like Damon John, his distribution channel is retail, right? He's really good at getting clothing down these distribution channels. He spends his career building this distribution channel. So if he has a new product, he's like, "I know my buyers want this". He can push it through his distribution channel. Right? Other sharks are good infomercials. Lori Greiner's really good to QVC. If she sees a product, she's like, "I can put this on QVC and make a ton of money because I know exactly how that game is played". Right? So every shark has a different distribution channel they're good at.

For us as internet nerds, right? What are our distribution channels? We have our email list, which is big. Which is still is probably the most profitable distribution channel we have in our company. So you have your email list, you have your social following. So your followings at Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, things like that. Facebook messenger was awesome for about a year as a distribution channel. And then it literally disappeared, it doesn't work very well anymore. For a while that was awesome. We were building up and having so much fun until it stopped being amazing.

You know, they're always coming and they're going, I think text message is a big one. I'm going to be focusing on now, PushCrew's another one. So it's like, what are the distribution channels you can build to give you and your business stability? Because the only thing that we know is not going to change in our businesses is the fact that's going to change all the time. So anyway, that's what I share with you guys is just thinking about that. If you want us to come and play in the new distribution channel that I'm doing, which is this Community app, which I'm really excited for. Then, like I said, text me (208) 231-3797. Just texts me anything. You can be like, "Blah". And then it opens a live chat with me. And then you can ask me a question. And right now in the last 12 hours, since I launched this, I've answered hundreds and hundreds of text messages.

Some people are freaking out, it's kind of fun. I won't be able to keep up the pace as they go from a couple of 100 people to a couple 1000, to hopefully a 100,000 people. But as right now, I'm trying to respond as many questions as I can. And I'm going to spend probably 20 to 30 minutes a day responding to questions. So feel free to come drop me a message and hopefully have a chance to respond to you personally. So I appreciate you. Thanks for hanging out. And like I said, give me a text. All right, thanks everybody, will talk to you soon.

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]]> 629 no RANT: How Are You Still Missing It? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/rant-how-are-you-still-missing-it If you’re only listening to what I say and not watching what I’m doing, then you’re missing the point. In this age of Covid, my team and I decided we wanted to give you an AMAZING ClickFunnels experience, like we do at Funnel Hacking Live. We asked ourselves… “What is the BEST step by step strategic process that will offer the most benefit to everyone?” So we came up with the Two Comma Club LIVE Virtual Conference. We laid it all out so you could know and INTERNALIZE exactly what to do from beginning to launch, in the right order, to ensure your success. Now, I didn’t do this all on my own. I could’ve easily taught this stuff for 3 days all on my own, but why do that when there are SMARTER people right inside the Funnel Hacker community who can teach and explain certain core concepts and frameworks WAY better than I could? So that’s what I did. For each step of this 3-Day 2CC LIVE event, I brought in the experts. I orchestrated their presentations in the framework I laid out, and plugged them in. And the feedback for this virtual conference has been INSANE! Except for this one guy who said “I’m really disappointed because I already saw these presentations at Funnel Hacking Live. And a lot of the stuff in 2CC LIVE is in your books. Why are you repeating this stuff?” This comment drove me NUTS! Why? Because this guy missed the whole point of the “Two Comma Club LIVE” Virtual Event. Tune into this episode and I’ll reveal exactly WHAT I did, WHY I did it, and how it can directly affect your results… ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I hope you guys are excited for today. I'm excited and I got something really important I want to share with you. For some of you guys, this may be one of those things that's kind of hard to hear, but if you listen and you pay attention and you internalize it, I think something could change your life forever. All right, so I am about to start day number three of Two Comma Club Live, which I am extremely excited for. This is the second time we did a Two Comma Club Live event and it's something I want to start doing probably once a quarter. And just some background context for this is when Coronavirus hit, we decided we wanted to do a live event, a virtual event, and so, we made this Two Comma Club Live and I thought, well, how do we do this the most amazing way possible? I can sit on a stage and teach for three days, but I was like, what would be better strategically, what is the step-by-step process somebody needs to come through to have the best experience inside ClickFunnels? I started mapping out, okay, the first thing they have to understand is they have to understand frameworks, then from there they have to understand the four levels of value. Then from there, they have to understand the value ladder and the yellow brick road and then from there ... And I mapped out here's all the core concepts and principles people need to understand in the right order to do it. Right? And I looked at that and said, "Okay, based on that, these are the eight or nine different presentations I need to create." So, I made these new presentations that I'm really, really proud of, right? And then inside that, I was like, well, at Funnel Hacking Live three years ago Stacy Martino gave this presentation on the yellow brick road, which complimented the value ladder, it was one of the best presentations ever. So, instead of me just teaching the value ladder, let me teach my part of the value ladder and then grab Stacy Martino's presentation. We'll plug it in here. Right? And then summit funnels, right? I can go talk about summit funnels, instead, two funnel hacking lives ago Bailey Richard gave the most amazing presentation on some of the funnels ever. So, instead of me just re-teaching it, let me grab that presentation. I'll plug it in. And I kind of mapped it out. Right? And so, what happened is we orchestrated and choreographed this three-day event that is literally insane. I think it's one of the best things people could possibly go through, right? Now, obviously, for some people, if you've been to all the Funnel Hacking Lives, you've seen some of the presentations before. If you've read my books, I'm teaching the same core principles and things I do. I'm just teaching it in a different way. And for the most part, the feedback has been amazing, but it was interesting because I'm one of those guys who I love to see the comments. And so, I'm looking at the Facebook group and reading people's comments and for the most part, everyone is really, really excited. But there was one comment that got under my skin and not because ... I'm cool with taking criticism, I don't really care. I'm very confident in what we do. I'm very happy, but his criticism, I wanted to grab him and be like, "You missed the whole freaking point." So, the criticism this person posted was, "I bought everything Russell's ever said about every book. I've been to every single Funnel Hacking Live and this is the first time I've ever been disappointed ever." And they went on to say, "The reason why I'm disappointed is because I've seen all these presentations before. I went back to my old notebooks from Funnel Hacking Live and I already have notes on these presentations. Why is he sharing them with me again? And a lot of this stuff he already talked about in his books." And that was his criticism and said, "This is the first time I've ever been not happy with a Russell Brunson purchase." By the way, I want to remind you that this event is $0. You put your credit card in and there's $0. And after the event's over, if it's worth it, you pay 200 bucks. 200 bucks, okay? Literally almost nothing for three days with the training. Nine custom presentations from me and then the best presentations for Funnel Hacking Live put it in the right strategic order. Right? Anyway. And so, I was thinking about it and there are a couple of things that I wanted to share and hopefully this human, I don't even know who the person's name was, I was just reading the comment and just all night long just been irking me. Right? But I wanted to share a couple of things because I want to make sure that you get this as well. Okay? Number one, the first thing, repetition is the mother of learning. Okay? Repetition is the mother of learning. You have to learn something over and over and over again for you to internalize it. Right? So, that's number one. So, just because three years ago you sat in an event and you have notes on this topic does not mean you know it. Maybe you've heard it and maybe you have notes on it, but have you implemented it? Is it part of your repertoire, right? For 15 years of my life I was a wrestler and used to go to wrestling camp over and over and over again and they teach the same moves over and over and over again. Right? You hear Vince Lombardi talked about the very first day of every single football practice coming to his team and said, "Gentlemen, this is the football, right?" These are people with the highest level, the best team ever and they're going back to the fundamentals. Right? I did a podcast two or three weeks ago about Alex Hormozi. Alex Hormozi who's arguably one of, if not the most successful person here inside the ClickFunnels community. Right? And I asked him, "What books are you reading?" And he's like, "I don't read a lot of books. I just read one book a lot of times." And he said, "Your new Expert Secrets book is insane." He's like, "I've literally read it eight times." He's like, "I start at the beginning. I read it. When I get to the end, I flip it back over and I start over and I read it again and again and again." Right? And my book, Alex, you already read it. You already know it. Plus you were at the fat event the first time I taught these plus you've been to every Funnel Hacking Live, plus you've consumed every one of my courses. Why would you keep reading this? And he said, "Every single time I get something new. So I read the book, I flip it over and I get it over again." Now, what's interesting is that Hormozi had never actually done a webinar. He read the book three times, wrote his webinar page, so he got a $5,000 offer and crushed it. Right? And then guess what he did immediately after he crushed his webinar? He flipped the book back over and started at the beginning and read it again. And he's like, "Oh my gosh, I missed this, this and this." And then he shifted the webinar, did it again, boom. And then guess what? Since the webinar, he did it again, he flipped the book over, read it again and did it again. Eight times now he's read this book in the last four months. Every time he does a webinar he rereads the book and comes back and tweaks things again. Reads the book, tweaks thing again. Okay? Now, I want to tell you this because Hormozi again, is I think he was a week away from passing the Two Comma Club C meeting, over $100 million in sales in a market that's gym owners, right? It's not a huge market. Anyway, it's amazing. And this new webinar that he has now, based on his conversion rates and his numbers will be an eight figure webinar, at least, and probably a lot more than that. Okay? And so, I want you to understand this is the dude at the top level, the top of the top levels, and guess what he's doing? He's reviewing the things and going over it and understanding it better and understanding it at a deeper level. Okay? So, first, for that person it's like, the reason why I'm doing this is because you need to understand it deeper. You're missing parts of it. Okay? If you're coming to this event, it means you're not happy with where you are therefore, there's something you're missing. Okay? So, that's the first thing I want to say. Number two thing. Okay, this event, I always say there's two things you learn from me. Number one, is if you buy one of my products, you learn from the product. Number two, if you observed the sales process, a lot of times that'd be worth more than the actual product you purchased. Right? Like when I was doing the launch for the Traffic Secrets book, I told everyone, when you go to TrafficSecrets.com and you buy the book, buy it slowly. Sorry, there's a motorcycle in front of me and he's so loud. Hopefully, you guys can still hear me. But I told them, I said, "When you buy the traffic secrets book, buy it slowly." I'm like, "Half of the education will come from you consuming the sales process." Okay? That in and of itself is worth more than the ticket price of any of the products you sell. Right? I literally spent 18 months thinking about, brainstorming, crafting, funnel hacking probably a hundred plus different book funnels, figuring out the copy, the tweaks, the upsells, the downsells, the conversion, everything. So just you going through and buying the Traffic Secrets book or the Dotcom Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book, that in and of itself is worth more probably than you actually going through the product. Now, the product I try to make as amazing as possible, but the sales process is the key. That's what I teach. That's what you guys should be watching. That's the art that I'm making every single day. Right? If you look at the Traffic Secrets book funnel of probably, I don't know, 30, 40 different free plus shipping funnels that I've created in my day, this one out converted all of them. Our average cart value was in the $70 per book funnel, per book sold. Okay? Which is unheard of. I don't know anybody who's got average cart values that high on a free plus shipping offer? Right? So, I share that because I always want to tell you the Two Comma Club Live event, okay, the event's amazing. Okay? Very, very proud of it. One of the best things I've ever produced and put together and choreographed and I'm so, so, so, so proud of it. Okay? But as you understand, the Two Comma Club Live event is also a sales tool. Okay? Watch the funnel. The first time we did the Two Comma Club Live event, we made six plus million dollars from that funnel. That's why I'm doing it once a quarter now. Do you understand? Because six times four is a lot of money. So, I should do that every single quarter. Okay? So, last time it made me $6 million. Okay? Even if you come to the entire event and you've heard every single word and you've perfectly learned and listened and executed every single thing in the process, just watching the sales process is the key. You guys understand this? You pick up what I'm laying down? That is the key. The sales process. That is worth as much, if not more than the entire event. Okay? Watch how we did everything. Watch the ads that got somebody to come to the webinar, watch the email sequences that got you to register for the event, right? What do we do? How do we do it? There's very strategic, every single word and every single email, every single ad was crafted in a certain way. Then you come to the landing page, watch the sales video. I had someone who just sold their company for a billion dollars watch the sales video and said, "That is the best produced video I've ever seen and I've been doing live TV for 20 plus years and sold my company for a billion dollars. That was the best produced video with the most powerful script I've ever seen in my life." Okay? Did you watch it? How many times? Did you transcribe it? If not, what are you doing? You're supposed to be a funnel hacker. Watch what I am doing. Right? And then look at the offer, how'd the offer work? It was $0 up front and you pay $197 after the event, right? Or you can pre-pay and get the replays for $147. 60% of people are prepaying. Look at this business model, look what's happening. Why do we do it? What did we do? What was the upsell? This time we had an upsell we didn't have last time. Okay. The new upsell right now, the upsell alone generated almost six figures in sales, which more than covered the entire ad cost of the event. Plus, the people that are upgrading the event, most of them are coming from the people who paid for the VIP package. So, there was that. Did you watch that? Did you understand it? Did you see it? That alone was worth the price of admission or more. Okay? Then watch the event. Not only was the event orchestrated and choreographed to get people the maximum amount of understanding and knowledge in the shortest period of time, right, the entire timeline is built out that way. It was also structured in a way to sell our Two Comma ClubX coaching program. How did we do it? What was the structure? I had people who paid me $50,000 for me to map out how we do our live events. What's the strategy on presentation number one and two and three. And what's the strategy about lunch and then after lunch and then dinner and then the round table, everything you do, what is the reason? $50,000 people paid me for me to walk them through how we choreograph our live events. Okay? If you were there, you paid $0 up front and you're having a chance to sit through the choreographed live event. Do you understand that? People pay me 50 grand for me to walk them through, but you can watch it. What is Russell doing? Why is he doing it? Why is this presentation first and second? And then why are we watching this documentary? And then what's the sales pitch? I just watched the sales pitch and made $6 million. I should dissect that. What was the offer? What'd the offer looked like? Why did it look like that? Why did it include this? Why did it include that? Okay. We're in the middle of the Coronavirus, what tweaks and changes did he have to make because of the pandemic? How did that work? Right? And then afterwards, how did he do the re-pitch? What did that process look like? How'd the countdown clocks work? How did all the pieces ... All those things are so strategic and if you're missing them, then you missed them. So, for someone to come back and say, "I've learned everything Russell said. I was at all these events. Why is he replaying this? It's not worth my $0." You missed it. On two levels. Number one, okay, think about Hormozi. Think about the number one money earner in ClickFunnels, what's he doing? He finishes the book and he flips it over and starts over again. Okay? It's something that if I was you, I would go through every quarter if you guys have the opportunity. Okay, go through it again. Go through it again because you're going to pick up different things every single time, different understanding. You'll be at a different spot each time. Right? Throughout this event I go through each of the tiers of the value ladder. Some of you guys are past tier number one, you're in tier number two. Some of you are past two, you're in tier number three. Some of you guys last event were at number one and now you're trying to get to number two. Every single time you get something different because you're in a different spot in your life. Okay? Four years ago when you're at Funnel Hacking Live and Stacey Martino talking about the value ladder, you might not have been ready for it and now, maybe you are. Okay? That's number one. Number two, is watch the process. We're funnel hackers. Okay? If you knew how much time and energy and effort and stress went into the choreographing of this event, to make a virtual event and make us $6 million in the middle of the Coronavirus lockdown, you'd be shocked. And right now, our numbers are higher than that for round two. Okay? So, we're tweaking, we're testing, we're figuring things out. So, watch the process, see what we're doing. Okay? So anyway, I want to share that for anyone who's missing the point. Okay? I used to always sign up for every coaching program. I think I paid a coaching program, one of them I paid $100,000 for this coaching program. I remember sitting through it and some people were thinking $100,000, they need to entertain me every second of every day for the rest of my life. And I was like, "No, no, no. All I need is just one idea. One little idea. If I get one tiny idea from this thing, it was worth a hundred grand," right? I used to go to tons of events when I first got started in this game. I went to every single event. Every single month I was going to some event and I'd sit through all of them. Three events, I'm just looking for one thing. I just need one little nugget. What's that nugget? I hear presentation one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. All of a sudden, presentation number eight, three fourths in the guy would drop something. I was like, "Boom. That's how I was looking for." Where he'd say something, he'd do his close a certain way and I didn't learn anything from his presentation, but I watched how he closed the sale and I was like, "That right there was worth 50 grand to me." 100% I would pay 50 grand to learn how he did that, how we closed the sale. Right? How his body movements were, how he anchored the stage, you're studying all the different pieces, right? You as a marketer, the content you're buying is only half of it, the other half is how do they sell it? How do they produce it? All those things. I want to make sure guys aren't missing it. Okay? I think sometimes you guys get so much in the consumer phase of things you're missing the orchestration of what you're trying to do. Okay? Watch what I'm doing. That's literally my favorite thing about our business is the fact that I get to sell you guys stuff, but then I can teach you later how I sold you stuff. It's so much fun for me. I could literally do a course tomorrow for a thousand bucks and show you how we choreographed a $6 million virtual event in the middle of Corona. I can sell it for a thousand bucks all day long or you could just watch it, just consume it. Watch the process, see what's happening. Anyway, I've got to bounce. I'm at my destination. If you enjoyed this episode, please take a picture of it and tag me on social media. I thank you so much for all you do. I love you guys. Thank you for listening. Hopefully you enjoy Two Comma Club Live and after you have a chance, go to the next one, make sure you do it. With that said, thanks everybody and I will talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 07 Oct 2020 08:00:00 -0000 RANT: How Are You Still Missing It? full 351 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you’re only listening to what I say and not watching what I’m doing, then you’re missing the point. If you’re only listening to what I say and not watching what I’m doing, then you’re missing the point. In this age of Covid, my team and I decided we wanted to give you an AMAZING ClickFunnels experience, like we do at Funnel Hacking Live. We asked ourselves… “What is the BEST step by step strategic process that will offer the most benefit to everyone?” So we came up with the Two Comma Club LIVE Virtual Conference. We laid it all out so you could know and INTERNALIZE exactly what to do from beginning to launch, in the right order, to ensure your success. Now, I didn’t do this all on my own. I could’ve easily taught this stuff for 3 days all on my own, but why do that when there are SMARTER people right inside the Funnel Hacker community who can teach and explain certain core concepts and frameworks WAY better than I could? So that’s what I did. For each step of this 3-Day 2CC LIVE event, I brought in the experts. I orchestrated their presentations in the framework I laid out, and plugged them in. And the feedback for this virtual conference has been INSANE! Except for this one guy who said “I’m really disappointed because I already saw these presentations at Funnel Hacking Live. And a lot of the stuff in 2CC LIVE is in your books. Why are you repeating this stuff?” This comment drove me NUTS! Why? Because this guy missed the whole point of the “Two Comma Club LIVE” Virtual Event. Tune into this episode and I’ll reveal exactly WHAT I did, WHY I did it, and how it can directly affect your results… ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I hope you guys are excited for today. I'm excited and I got something really important I want to share with you. For some of you guys, this may be one of those things that's kind of hard to hear, but if you listen and you pay attention and you internalize it, I think something could change your life forever. All right, so I am about to start day number three of Two Comma Club Live, which I am extremely excited for. This is the second time we did a Two Comma Club Live event and it's something I want to start doing probably once a quarter. And just some background context for this is when Coronavirus hit, we decided we wanted to do a live event, a virtual event, and so, we made this Two Comma Club Live and I thought, well, how do we do this the most amazing way possible? I can sit on a stage and teach for three days, but I was like, what would be better strategically, what is the step-by-step process somebody needs to come through to have the best experience inside ClickFunnels? I started mapping out, okay, the first thing they have to understand is they have to understand frameworks, then from there they have to understand the four levels of value. Then from there, they have to understand the value ladder and the yellow brick road and then from there ... And I mapped out here's all the core concepts and principles people need to understand in the right order to do it. Right? And I looked at that and said, "Okay, based on that, these are the eight or nine different presentations I need to create." So, I made these new presentations that I'm really, really proud of, right? And then inside that, I was like, well, at Funnel Hacking Live three years ago Stacy Martino gave this presentation on the yellow brick road, which complimented the value ladder, it was one of the best presentations ever. So, instead of me just teaching the value ladder, let me teach my part of the value ladder and then grab Stacy Martino's presentation. We'll plug it in here. Right? And then summit funnels, right? I can go talk about summit funnels, instead, two funnel hacking lives ago Bailey Richard gave the most amazing presentation on some of the funnels ever. So, instead of me just re-teaching it, let me grab that presentation. I'll plug it in. And I kind of mapped it out. Right? And so, what happened is we orchestrated and choreographed this three-day event that is literally insane. I think it's one of the best things people could possibly go through, right? Now, obviously, for some people, if you've been to all the Funnel Hacking Lives, you've seen some of the presentations before. If you've read my books, I'm teaching the same core principles and things I do. I'm just teaching it in a different way. And for the most part, the feedback has been amazing, but it was interesting because I'm one of those guys who I love to see the comments. And so, I'm looking at the Facebook group and reading people's comments and for the most part, everyone is really, really excited. But there was one comment that got under my skin and not because ... I'm cool with taking criticism, I don't really care. I'm very confident in what we do. I'm very happy, but his criticism, I wanted to grab him and be like, "You missed the whole freaking point." So, the criticism this person posted was, "I bought everything Russell's ever said about every book. I've been to every single Funnel Hacking Live and this is the first time I've ever been disappointed ever." And they went on to say, "The reason why I'm disappointed is because I've seen all these presentations before. I went back to my old notebooks from Funnel Hacking Live and I already have notes on these presentations. Why is he sharing them with me again? And a lot of this stuff he already talked about in his books." And that was his criticism and said, "This is the first time I've ever been not happy with a Russell Brunson purchase." By the way, I want to remind you that this event is $0. You put your credit card in and there's $0. And after the event's over, if it's worth it, you pay 200 bucks. 200 bucks, okay? Literally almost nothing for three days with the training. Nine custom presentations from me and then the best presentations for Funnel Hacking Live put it in the right strategic order. Right? Anyway. And so, I was thinking about it and there are a couple of things that I wanted to share and hopefully this human, I don't even know who the person's name was, I was just reading the comment and just all night long just been irking me. Right? But I wanted to share a couple of things because I want to make sure that you get this as well. Okay? Number one, the first thing, repetition is the mother of learning. Okay? Repetition is the mother of learning. You have to learn something over and over and over again for you to internalize it. Right? So, that's number one. So, just because three years ago you sat in an event and you have notes on this topic does not mean you know it. Maybe you've heard it and maybe you have notes on it, but have you implemented it? Is it part of your repertoire, right? For 15 years of my life I was a wrestler and used to go to wrestling camp over and over and over again and they teach the same moves over and over and over again. Right? You hear Vince Lombardi talked about the very first day of every single football practice coming to his team and said, "Gentlemen, this is the football, right?" These are people with the highest level, the best team ever and they're going back to the fundamentals. Right? I did a podcast two or three weeks ago about Alex Hormozi. Alex Hormozi who's arguably one of, if not the most successful person here inside the ClickFunnels community. Right? And I asked him, "What books are you reading?" And he's like, "I don't read a lot of books. I just read one book a lot of times." And he said, "Your new Expert Secrets book is insane." He's like, "I've literally read it eight times." He's like, "I start at the beginning. I read it. When I get to the end, I flip it back over and I start over and I read it again and again and again." Right? And my book, Alex, you already read it. You already know it. Plus you were at the fat event the first time I taught these plus you've been to every Funnel Hacking Live, plus you've consumed every one of my courses. Why would you keep reading this? And he said, "Every single time I get something new. So I read the book, I flip it over and I get it over again." Now, what's interesting is that Hormozi had never actually done a webinar. He read the book three times, wrote his webinar page, so he got a $5,000 offer and crushed it. Right? And then guess what he did immediately after he crushed his webinar? He flipped the book back over and started at the beginning and read it again. And he's like, "Oh my gosh, I missed this, this and this." And then he shifted the webinar, did it again, boom. And then guess what? Since the webinar, he did it again, he flipped the book over, read it again and did it again. Eight times now he's read this book in the last four months. Every time he does a webinar he rereads the book and comes back and tweaks things again. Reads the book, tweaks thing again. Okay? Now, I want to tell you this because Hormozi again, is I think he was a week away from passing the Two Comma Club C meeting, over $100 million in sales in a market that's gym owners, right? It's not a huge market. Anyway, it's amazing. And this new webinar that he has now, based on his conversion rates and his numbers will be an eight figure webinar, at least, and probably a lot more than that. Okay? And so, I want you to understand this is the dude at the top level, the top of the top levels, and guess what he's doing? He's reviewing the things and going over it and understanding it better and understanding it at a deeper level. Okay? So, first, for that person it's like, the reason why I'm doing this is because you need to understand it deeper. You're missing parts of it. Okay? If you're coming to this event, it means you're not happy with where you are therefore, there's something you're missing. Okay? So, that's the first thing I want to say. Number two thing. Okay, this event, I always say there's two things you learn from me. Number one, is if you buy one of my products, you learn from the product. Number two, if you observed the sales process, a lot of times that'd be worth more than the actual product you purchased. Right? Like when I was doing the launch for the Traffic Secrets book, I told everyone, when you go to TrafficSecrets.com and you buy the book, buy it slowly. Sorry, there's a motorcycle in front of me and he's so loud. Hopefully, you guys can still hear me. But I told them, I said, "When you buy the traffic secrets book, buy it slowly." I'm like, "Half of the education will come from you consuming the sales process." Okay? That in and of itself is worth more than the ticket price of any of the products you sell. Right? I literally spent 18 months thinking about, brainstorming, crafting, funnel hacking probably a hundred plus different book funnels, figuring out the copy, the tweaks, the upsells, the downsells, the conversion, everything. So just you going through and buying the Traffic Secrets book or the Dotcom Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book, that in and of itself is worth more probably than you actually going through the product. Now, the product I try to make as amazing as possible, but the sales process is the key. That's what I teach. That's what you guys should be watching. That's the art that I'm making every single day. Right? If you look at the Traffic Secrets book funnel of probably, I don't know, 30, 40 different free plus shipping funnels that I've created in my day, this one out converted all of them. Our average cart value was in the $70 per book funnel, per book sold. Okay? Which is unheard of. I don't know anybody who's got average cart values that high on a free plus shipping offer? Right? So, I share that because I always want to tell you the Two Comma Club Live event, okay, the event's amazing. Okay? Very, very proud of it. One of the best things I've ever produced and put together and choreographed and I'm so, so, so, so proud of it. Okay? But as you understand, the Two Comma Club Live event is also a sales tool. Okay? Watch the funnel. The first time we did the Two Comma Club Live event, we made six plus million dollars from that funnel. That's why I'm doing it once a quarter now. Do you understand? Because six times four is a lot of money. So, I should do that every single quarter. Okay? So, last time it made me $6 million. Okay? Even if you come to the entire event and you've heard every single word and you've perfectly learned and listened and executed every single thing in the process, just watching the sales process is the key. You guys understand this? You pick up what I'm laying down? That is the key. The sales process. That is worth as much, if not more than the entire event. Okay? Watch how we did everything. Watch the ads that got somebody to come to the webinar, watch the email sequences that got you to register for the event, right? What do we do? How do we do it? There's very strategic, every single word and every single email, every single ad was crafted in a certain way. Then you come to the landing page, watch the sales video. I had someone who just sold their company for a billion dollars watch the sales video and said, "That is the best produced video I've ever seen and I've been doing live TV for 20 plus years and sold my company for a billion dollars. That was the best produced video with the most powerful script I've ever seen in my life." Okay? Did you watch it? How many times? Did you transcribe it? If not, what are you doing? You're supposed to be a funnel hacker. Watch what I am doing. Right? And then look at the offer, how'd the offer work? It was $0 up front and you pay $197 after the event, right? Or you can pre-pay and get the replays for $147. 60% of people are prepaying. Look at this business model, look what's happening. Why do we do it? What did we do? What was the upsell? This time we had an upsell we didn't have last time. Okay. The new upsell right now, the upsell alone generated almost six figures in sales, which more than covered the entire ad cost of the event. Plus, the people that are upgrading the event, most of them are coming from the people who paid for the VIP package. So, there was that. Did you watch that? Did you understand it? Did you see it? That alone was worth the price of admission or more. Okay? Then watch the event. Not only was the event orchestrated and choreographed to get people the maximum amount of understanding and knowledge in the shortest period of time, right, the entire timeline is built out that way. It was also structured in a way to sell our Two Comma ClubX coaching program. How did we do it? What was the structure? I had people who paid me $50,000 for me to map out how we do our live events. What's the strategy on presentation number one and two and three. And what's the strategy about lunch and then after lunch and then dinner and then the round table, everything you do, what is the reason? $50,000 people paid me for me to walk them through how we choreograph our live events. Okay? If you were there, you paid $0 up front and you're having a chance to sit through the choreographed live event. Do you understand that? People pay me 50 grand for me to walk them through, but you can watch it. What is Russell doing? Why is he doing it? Why is this presentation first and second? And then why are we watching this documentary? And then what's the sales pitch? I just watched the sales pitch and made $6 million. I should dissect that. What was the offer? What'd the offer looked like? Why did it look like that? Why did it include this? Why did it include that? Okay. We're in the middle of the Coronavirus, what tweaks and changes did he have to make because of the pandemic? How did that work? Right? And then afterwards, how did he do the re-pitch? What did that process look like? How'd the countdown clocks work? How did all the pieces ... All those things are so strategic and if you're missing them, then you missed them. So, for someone to come back and say, "I've learned everything Russell said. I was at all these events. Why is he replaying this? It's not worth my $0." You missed it. On two levels. Number one, okay, think about Hormozi. Think about the number one money earner in ClickFunnels, what's he doing? He finishes the book and he flips it over and starts over again. Okay? It's something that if I was you, I would go through every quarter if you guys have the opportunity. Okay, go through it again. Go through it again because you're going to pick up different things every single time, different understanding. You'll be at a different spot each time. Right? Throughout this event I go through each of the tiers of the value ladder. Some of you guys are past tier number one, you're in tier number two. Some of you are past two, you're in tier number three. Some of you guys last event were at number one and now you're trying to get to number two. Every single time you get something different because you're in a different spot in your life. Okay? Four years ago when you're at Funnel Hacking Live and Stacey Martino talking about the value ladder, you might not have been ready for it and now, maybe you are. Okay? That's number one. Number two, is watch the process. We're funnel hackers. Okay? If you knew how much time and energy and effort and stress went into the choreographing of this event, to make a virtual event and make us $6 million in the middle of the Coronavirus lockdown, you'd be shocked. And right now, our numbers are higher than that for round two. Okay? So, we're tweaking, we're testing, we're figuring things out. So, watch the process, see what we're doing. Okay? So anyway, I want to share that for anyone who's missing the point. Okay? I used to always sign up for every coaching program. I think I paid a coaching program, one of them I paid $100,000 for this coaching program. I remember sitting through it and some people were thinking $100,000, they need to entertain me every second of every day for the rest of my life. And I was like, "No, no, no. All I need is just one idea. One little idea. If I get one tiny idea from this thing, it was worth a hundred grand," right? I used to go to tons of events when I first got started in this game. I went to every single event. Every single month I was going to some event and I'd sit through all of them. Three events, I'm just looking for one thing. I just need one little nugget. What's that nugget? I hear presentation one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. All of a sudden, presentation number eight, three fourths in the guy would drop something. I was like, "Boom. That's how I was looking for." Where he'd say something, he'd do his close a certain way and I didn't learn anything from his presentation, but I watched how he closed the sale and I was like, "That right there was worth 50 grand to me." 100% I would pay 50 grand to learn how he did that, how we closed the sale. Right? How his body movements were, how he anchored the stage, you're studying all the different pieces, right? You as a marketer, the content you're buying is only half of it, the other half is how do they sell it? How do they produce it? All those things. I want to make sure guys aren't missing it. Okay? I think sometimes you guys get so much in the consumer phase of things you're missing the orchestration of what you're trying to do. Okay? Watch what I'm doing. That's literally my favorite thing about our business is the fact that I get to sell you guys stuff, but then I can teach you later how I sold you stuff. It's so much fun for me. I could literally do a course tomorrow for a thousand bucks and show you how we choreographed a $6 million virtual event in the middle of Corona. I can sell it for a thousand bucks all day long or you could just watch it, just consume it. Watch the process, see what's happening. Anyway, I've got to bounce. I'm at my destination. If you enjoyed this episode, please take a picture of it and tag me on social media. I thank you so much for all you do. I love you guys. Thank you for listening. Hopefully you enjoy Two Comma Club Live and after you have a chance, go to the next one, make sure you do it. With that said, thanks everybody and I will talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you’re only listening to what I say and not watching what I’m doing, then you’re missing the point.

In this age of Covid, my team and I decided we wanted to give you an AMAZING ClickFunnels experience, like we do at Funnel Hacking Live. We asked ourselves… “What is the BEST step by step strategic process that will offer the most benefit to everyone?” So we came up with the Two Comma Club LIVE Virtual Conference.

We laid it all out so you could know and INTERNALIZE exactly what to do from beginning to launch, in the right order, to ensure your success.

Now, I didn’t do this all on my own. I could’ve easily taught this stuff for 3 days all on my own, but why do that when there are SMARTER people right inside the Funnel Hacker community who can teach and explain certain core concepts and frameworks WAY better than I could?

So that’s what I did. For each step of this 3-Day 2CC LIVE event, I brought in the experts. I orchestrated their presentations in the framework I laid out, and plugged them in. And the feedback for this virtual conference has been INSANE!

Except for this one guy who said “I’m really disappointed because I already saw these presentations at Funnel Hacking Live. And a lot of the stuff in 2CC LIVE is in your books. Why are you repeating this stuff?”

This comment drove me NUTS! Why? Because this guy missed the whole point of the “Two Comma Club LIVE” Virtual Event.

Tune into this episode and I’ll reveal exactly WHAT I did, WHY I did it, and how it can directly affect your results…

---Transcript---

What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. I hope you guys are excited for today. I'm excited and I got something really important I want to share with you. For some of you guys, this may be one of those things that's kind of hard to hear, but if you listen and you pay attention and you internalize it, I think something could change your life forever.

All right, so I am about to start day number three of Two Comma Club Live, which I am extremely excited for. This is the second time we did a Two Comma Club Live event and it's something I want to start doing probably once a quarter. And just some background context for this is when Coronavirus hit, we decided we wanted to do a live event, a virtual event, and so, we made this Two Comma Club Live and I thought, well, how do we do this the most amazing way possible? I can sit on a stage and teach for three days, but I was like, what would be better strategically, what is the step-by-step process somebody needs to come through to have the best experience inside ClickFunnels?

I started mapping out, okay, the first thing they have to understand is they have to understand frameworks, then from there they have to understand the four levels of value. Then from there, they have to understand the value ladder and the yellow brick road and then from there ... And I mapped out here's all the core concepts and principles people need to understand in the right order to do it. Right? And I looked at that and said, "Okay, based on that, these are the eight or nine different presentations I need to create." So, I made these new presentations that I'm really, really proud of, right? And then inside that, I was like, well, at Funnel Hacking Live three years ago Stacy Martino gave this presentation on the yellow brick road, which complimented the value ladder, it was one of the best presentations ever.

So, instead of me just teaching the value ladder, let me teach my part of the value ladder and then grab Stacy Martino's presentation. We'll plug it in here. Right? And then summit funnels, right? I can go talk about summit funnels, instead, two funnel hacking lives ago Bailey Richard gave the most amazing presentation on some of the funnels ever. So, instead of me just re-teaching it, let me grab that presentation. I'll plug it in. And I kind of mapped it out. Right? And so, what happened is we orchestrated and choreographed this three-day event that is literally insane. I think it's one of the best things people could possibly go through, right?

Now, obviously, for some people, if you've been to all the Funnel Hacking Lives, you've seen some of the presentations before. If you've read my books, I'm teaching the same core principles and things I do. I'm just teaching it in a different way. And for the most part, the feedback has been amazing, but it was interesting because I'm one of those guys who I love to see the comments. And so, I'm looking at the Facebook group and reading people's comments and for the most part, everyone is really, really excited. But there was one comment that got under my skin and not because ... I'm cool with taking criticism, I don't really care. I'm very confident in what we do. I'm very happy, but his criticism, I wanted to grab him and be like, "You missed the whole freaking point."

So, the criticism this person posted was, "I bought everything Russell's ever said about every book. I've been to every single Funnel Hacking Live and this is the first time I've ever been disappointed ever." And they went on to say, "The reason why I'm disappointed is because I've seen all these presentations before. I went back to my old notebooks from Funnel Hacking Live and I already have notes on these presentations. Why is he sharing them with me again? And a lot of this stuff he already talked about in his books." And that was his criticism and said, "This is the first time I've ever been not happy with a Russell Brunson purchase." By the way, I want to remind you that this event is $0. You put your credit card in and there's $0. And after the event's over, if it's worth it, you pay 200 bucks. 200 bucks, okay? Literally almost nothing for three days with the training. Nine custom presentations from me and then the best presentations for Funnel Hacking Live put it in the right strategic order. Right? Anyway.

And so, I was thinking about it and there are a couple of things that I wanted to share and hopefully this human, I don't even know who the person's name was, I was just reading the comment and just all night long just been irking me. Right? But I wanted to share a couple of things because I want to make sure that you get this as well. Okay? Number one, the first thing, repetition is the mother of learning. Okay? Repetition is the mother of learning. You have to learn something over and over and over again for you to internalize it. Right? So, that's number one. So, just because three years ago you sat in an event and you have notes on this topic does not mean you know it. Maybe you've heard it and maybe you have notes on it, but have you implemented it? Is it part of your repertoire, right?

For 15 years of my life I was a wrestler and used to go to wrestling camp over and over and over again and they teach the same moves over and over and over again. Right? You hear Vince Lombardi talked about the very first day of every single football practice coming to his team and said, "Gentlemen, this is the football, right?" These are people with the highest level, the best team ever and they're going back to the fundamentals. Right?

I did a podcast two or three weeks ago about Alex Hormozi. Alex Hormozi who's arguably one of, if not the most successful person here inside the ClickFunnels community. Right? And I asked him, "What books are you reading?" And he's like, "I don't read a lot of books. I just read one book a lot of times." And he said, "Your new Expert Secrets book is insane." He's like, "I've literally read it eight times." He's like, "I start at the beginning. I read it. When I get to the end, I flip it back over and I start over and I read it again and again and again." Right? And my book, Alex, you already read it. You already know it. Plus you were at the fat event the first time I taught these plus you've been to every Funnel Hacking Live, plus you've consumed every one of my courses. Why would you keep reading this? And he said, "Every single time I get something new. So I read the book, I flip it over and I get it over again."

Now, what's interesting is that Hormozi had never actually done a webinar. He read the book three times, wrote his webinar page, so he got a $5,000 offer and crushed it. Right? And then guess what he did immediately after he crushed his webinar? He flipped the book back over and started at the beginning and read it again. And he's like, "Oh my gosh, I missed this, this and this." And then he shifted the webinar, did it again, boom. And then guess what? Since the webinar, he did it again, he flipped the book over, read it again and did it again. Eight times now he's read this book in the last four months. Every time he does a webinar he rereads the book and comes back and tweaks things again. Reads the book, tweaks thing again. Okay?

Now, I want to tell you this because Hormozi again, is I think he was a week away from passing the Two Comma Club C meeting, over $100 million in sales in a market that's gym owners, right? It's not a huge market. Anyway, it's amazing. And this new webinar that he has now, based on his conversion rates and his numbers will be an eight figure webinar, at least, and probably a lot more than that. Okay? And so, I want you to understand this is the dude at the top level, the top of the top levels, and guess what he's doing? He's reviewing the things and going over it and understanding it better and understanding it at a deeper level. Okay?

So, first, for that person it's like, the reason why I'm doing this is because you need to understand it deeper. You're missing parts of it. Okay? If you're coming to this event, it means you're not happy with where you are therefore, there's something you're missing. Okay? So, that's the first thing I want to say. Number two thing. Okay, this event, I always say there's two things you learn from me. Number one, is if you buy one of my products, you learn from the product. Number two, if you observed the sales process, a lot of times that'd be worth more than the actual product you purchased. Right? Like when I was doing the launch for the Traffic Secrets book, I told everyone, when you go to TrafficSecrets.com and you buy the book, buy it slowly. Sorry, there's a motorcycle in front of me and he's so loud. Hopefully, you guys can still hear me.

But I told them, I said, "When you buy the traffic secrets book, buy it slowly." I'm like, "Half of the education will come from you consuming the sales process." Okay? That in and of itself is worth more than the ticket price of any of the products you sell. Right? I literally spent 18 months thinking about, brainstorming, crafting, funnel hacking probably a hundred plus different book funnels, figuring out the copy, the tweaks, the upsells, the downsells, the conversion, everything. So just you going through and buying the Traffic Secrets book or the Dotcom Secrets book, the Expert Secrets book, that in and of itself is worth more probably than you actually going through the product. Now, the product I try to make as amazing as possible, but the sales process is the key. That's what I teach. That's what you guys should be watching. That's the art that I'm making every single day. Right?

If you look at the Traffic Secrets book funnel of probably, I don't know, 30, 40 different free plus shipping funnels that I've created in my day, this one out converted all of them. Our average cart value was in the $70 per book funnel, per book sold. Okay? Which is unheard of. I don't know anybody who's got average cart values that high on a free plus shipping offer? Right? So, I share that because I always want to tell you the Two Comma Club Live event, okay, the event's amazing. Okay? Very, very proud of it. One of the best things I've ever produced and put together and choreographed and I'm so, so, so, so proud of it. Okay? But as you understand, the Two Comma Club Live event is also a sales tool. Okay? Watch the funnel.

The first time we did the Two Comma Club Live event, we made six plus million dollars from that funnel. That's why I'm doing it once a quarter now. Do you understand? Because six times four is a lot of money. So, I should do that every single quarter. Okay? So, last time it made me $6 million. Okay? Even if you come to the entire event and you've heard every single word and you've perfectly learned and listened and executed every single thing in the process, just watching the sales process is the key. You guys understand this? You pick up what I'm laying down? That is the key.

The sales process. That is worth as much, if not more than the entire event. Okay? Watch how we did everything. Watch the ads that got somebody to come to the webinar, watch the email sequences that got you to register for the event, right? What do we do? How do we do it? There's very strategic, every single word and every single email, every single ad was crafted in a certain way. Then you come to the landing page, watch the sales video. I had someone who just sold their company for a billion dollars watch the sales video and said, "That is the best produced video I've ever seen and I've been doing live TV for 20 plus years and sold my company for a billion dollars. That was the best produced video with the most powerful script I've ever seen in my life." Okay? Did you watch it? How many times? Did you transcribe it? If not, what are you doing? You're supposed to be a funnel hacker. Watch what I am doing. Right?

And then look at the offer, how'd the offer work? It was $0 up front and you pay $197 after the event, right? Or you can pre-pay and get the replays for $147. 60% of people are prepaying. Look at this business model, look what's happening. Why do we do it? What did we do? What was the upsell? This time we had an upsell we didn't have last time. Okay. The new upsell right now, the upsell alone generated almost six figures in sales, which more than covered the entire ad cost of the event. Plus, the people that are upgrading the event, most of them are coming from the people who paid for the VIP package. So, there was that. Did you watch that? Did you understand it? Did you see it? That alone was worth the price of admission or more. Okay?

Then watch the event. Not only was the event orchestrated and choreographed to get people the maximum amount of understanding and knowledge in the shortest period of time, right, the entire timeline is built out that way. It was also structured in a way to sell our Two Comma ClubX coaching program. How did we do it? What was the structure? I had people who paid me $50,000 for me to map out how we do our live events. What's the strategy on presentation number one and two and three. And what's the strategy about lunch and then after lunch and then dinner and then the round table, everything you do, what is the reason? $50,000 people paid me for me to walk them through how we choreograph our live events. Okay? If you were there, you paid $0 up front and you're having a chance to sit through the choreographed live event. Do you understand that? People pay me 50 grand for me to walk them through, but you can watch it.

What is Russell doing? Why is he doing it? Why is this presentation first and second? And then why are we watching this documentary? And then what's the sales pitch? I just watched the sales pitch and made $6 million. I should dissect that. What was the offer? What'd the offer looked like? Why did it look like that? Why did it include this? Why did it include that? Okay. We're in the middle of the Coronavirus, what tweaks and changes did he have to make because of the pandemic? How did that work? Right? And then afterwards, how did he do the re-pitch? What did that process look like? How'd the countdown clocks work? How did all the pieces ... All those things are so strategic and if you're missing them, then you missed them.

So, for someone to come back and say, "I've learned everything Russell said. I was at all these events. Why is he replaying this? It's not worth my $0." You missed it. On two levels. Number one, okay, think about Hormozi. Think about the number one money earner in ClickFunnels, what's he doing? He finishes the book and he flips it over and starts over again. Okay? It's something that if I was you, I would go through every quarter if you guys have the opportunity. Okay, go through it again. Go through it again because you're going to pick up different things every single time, different understanding. You'll be at a different spot each time. Right? Throughout this event I go through each of the tiers of the value ladder. Some of you guys are past tier number one, you're in tier number two. Some of you are past two, you're in tier number three. Some of you guys last event were at number one and now you're trying to get to number two.

Every single time you get something different because you're in a different spot in your life. Okay? Four years ago when you're at Funnel Hacking Live and Stacey Martino talking about the value ladder, you might not have been ready for it and now, maybe you are. Okay? That's number one. Number two, is watch the process. We're funnel hackers. Okay? If you knew how much time and energy and effort and stress went into the choreographing of this event, to make a virtual event and make us $6 million in the middle of the Coronavirus lockdown, you'd be shocked. And right now, our numbers are higher than that for round two. Okay? So, we're tweaking, we're testing, we're figuring things out. So, watch the process, see what we're doing. Okay? So anyway, I want to share that for anyone who's missing the point. Okay?

I used to always sign up for every coaching program. I think I paid a coaching program, one of them I paid $100,000 for this coaching program. I remember sitting through it and some people were thinking $100,000, they need to entertain me every second of every day for the rest of my life. And I was like, "No, no, no. All I need is just one idea. One little idea. If I get one tiny idea from this thing, it was worth a hundred grand," right? I used to go to tons of events when I first got started in this game. I went to every single event. Every single month I was going to some event and I'd sit through all of them. Three events, I'm just looking for one thing. I just need one little nugget. What's that nugget?

I hear presentation one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. All of a sudden, presentation number eight, three fourths in the guy would drop something. I was like, "Boom. That's how I was looking for." Where he'd say something, he'd do his close a certain way and I didn't learn anything from his presentation, but I watched how he closed the sale and I was like, "That right there was worth 50 grand to me." 100% I would pay 50 grand to learn how he did that, how we closed the sale. Right? How his body movements were, how he anchored the stage, you're studying all the different pieces, right? You as a marketer, the content you're buying is only half of it, the other half is how do they sell it? How do they produce it? All those things. I want to make sure guys aren't missing it. Okay? I think sometimes you guys get so much in the consumer phase of things you're missing the orchestration of what you're trying to do. Okay?

Watch what I'm doing. That's literally my favorite thing about our business is the fact that I get to sell you guys stuff, but then I can teach you later how I sold you stuff. It's so much fun for me. I could literally do a course tomorrow for a thousand bucks and show you how we choreographed a $6 million virtual event in the middle of Corona. I can sell it for a thousand bucks all day long or you could just watch it, just consume it. Watch the process, see what's happening.

Anyway, I've got to bounce. I'm at my destination. If you enjoyed this episode, please take a picture of it and tag me on social media. I thank you so much for all you do. I love you guys. Thank you for listening. Hopefully you enjoy Two Comma Club Live and after you have a chance, go to the next one, make sure you do it. With that said, thanks everybody and I will talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 986 no Wealth Has A Need For Speed (With Special Guest Myron Golden!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/wealth-has-a-need-for-speed-with-special-guest-myron-golden Hanging out behind the scenes of Two Comma Club Live, and Myron Golden was dropping gold. I decided to pick some up and give it to you guys today. Earlier this week, I sat in the ‘green room’ of the Two Comma Club Live  event with one of my favorite people, Myron Golden. Myron is a ROCKSTAR… as a presenter, speaker, and as a person. I was doing my podcast in between my 2CC LIVE talks, so I thought this would be a great opportunity to have Myron talk about how wealth and money LOVE speed, and how knowing these principles can change your life. Myron says… “If you want to create wealth in your business and for you and your family, you have to increase the rate in which you generate revenue. You have to increase the SPEED at which you generate profits.” Want to know how to do this? I hope you do, because this is THE KEY to creating wealth faster than you imagined. And you can implement this pretty quickly once you know the secret! Dive into this episode of Marketing Secrets for some Myron Golden magic! ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Right now, I am actually in the green room, the Two Comma Club Live Event. This is the second time I've done this event. It's been really, really cool. And one of the presentations I wanted and one of the content pieces I needed for the event for everything to make sense was from Myron Golden. And if you don't know who Myron is, he is literally one of the coolest people on this planet. And I asked Martin if he'd fly to Boise to come and give a 20 minute content piece to everybody. And he said yes, which was insane. So he came yesterday and he spoke, and it was just super powerful. But then afterwards, we're sitting in the back in the green room talking about a whole bunch of stuff. And I'm not going to lie, he dropped probably 20 gold bombs and I pick them all up, put them in my pocket. But there's one, I was like, "I want to share this one with everybody." So I'm going to hand the microphone over to Myron here in a second and he's going to tell you guys this concept that's going to help you understand money and wealth and speed and why and how you can use these things to make more money quicker and change your life faster. So with that said, we're going to queue up a theme song and when we come back, you'll have a chance to hear from Mr. Myron Golden. Myron Golden: Well, hello, everybody. Myron Golden here, and I am really, really honored to be on Russell's podcast. And he asked me to share this concept about wealth having a need for speed. Most people don't understand how wealth is actually measured. Most people think wealth is measured in money, but wealth is actually measured more in time than it is the money. For instance, if you make $1 million, are you rich? And the answer is, it depends. What does it depend on? Well, I'll tell. If you make $25,000 a year and you work for 40 years, that's $1 million. Are you rich? No. But if you make that same $1 million in one year, are you rich? You're not Bill Gates rich, but you're definitely at least 40 times richer than the person who makes $25,000 a year. And the amount of money that you made was exactly the same. The difference was how fast you made it. See, most people don't realize that they already make enough money, they just don't make the amount of money they make fast enough or often enough. So if you want to create wealth for your family in your business what you have to do is you have to increase the rate at which you generate revenue. You have to increase the speed at which you generate profits. That's how you create wealth. And so if you make a million dollars a month, you're 12 times richer than the person who makes a $1 million a year. If you make $1 million a week, you're 52 times richer than a person makes $1 million a year. If you make $1 million a day, you're 365 times richer than the person who makes $1 million a year. So increase the speed. See, you spend money all day, everyday. People say, "I don't spend money every day." Oh, you do. Do you have a refrigerator at your house? Do you have an air conditioner or a heater at your house? Do you drive your car or someone in your family drives your car? Do you have cable and electric and all these other utilities? You have insurance. You're spending money all day, every day, and you're only getting paid every now and then. That's your biggest problem. So one of the things you want to do is you want to figure out a way to speed up how you get paid. So here's the first thing you do. Get paid more often. Well, in order to get paid more often, one of the things you have to do is you have to separate your income generation from time. How do you do that? You stop selling your time for money and you start selling a product instead of a service. When you sell a service, it requires time to fulfill. You paint houses. You can only paint so many houses a week. You get three houses this week maybe you're happy, you have a team. But if you get 30 houses this week, now you have a headache because you can't fulfill. So you have to do is sell a product. Why? It takes no longer to sell 300,000 products than it does to sell one. I remember the biggest sale I ever made. I've sold 155,000 copies of my book, From The Trash Man To The Cash Man, but I sold 100,000 copies in 15 minutes to one guy who owned a company. He bought 100,000 copies of my book for me. That was one sale, 15 minutes, and I sold the exact same amount of products. I sold more products, more books in that one sale than all the other books I've sold put together. So when you have a product, you literally give yourself the ability to speed up the rate at which you earn revenue. So have a product, that's number one. Number two, increase your price. You say, "How does that speed it up?" Well, if you sell something right now for say $2,500 and you change the price to say $25,000, now you just earn 10 times the money in the same amount of time. Wealth has a need for speed. So you increase the price. The second thing you do is, increase the number of people you sell to at once. Right now, we're in the green room at Two Comma Club Live. Eight months ago, we were at Funnel Hacking Live. Russell made an offer to 5,000 people. And only if 1% of those people buy, it's a crazy, amazing day. It's 10% of those people buy, crazy town. So one of the things you want to do is you want to make your offer to more people. That's why Russell teaches you the Perfect Webinar, because it gives you the ability to do your presentation one on many. That way, if a whole bunch of people say yes, and a whole bunch of people say no, they're all saying it at the same time and you're getting a much better result. Wealth has a need for speed. I've got one client, Eileen. She came to me. She wanted to buy my coaching program. She put down a down payment. She put down $2,000. She came to me, she said, "Myron," and she needed $18,000 for the rest of the down payment, that was just for half, she came to me, she said, "Myron, I really want to work with you." She didn't come to me. She called me on the phone and she said, "Myron, I really want to work with you. I thought I was going to be able to get the money and I wasn't able to get it. What do I do?" I said, "What you do is you collapse timeframes and make more offers." I said, "Take the number of offers you usually do in a year, make that number of offers every month. Take the number of offers you do every month, make a number of offers every week. Take the number of offers you do every week, make that number of offers every day for the next 30 days and you will have the $18,000." She said, "Okay, I'm going to do it." Well, she called me and told me she didn't have the money. I had no reason to doubt her. She called me back in six days and said, "I have the $18,000. Where do you want me to send it?" What did she do? She collapsed timeframes. She took an offer that she had. She started offering it more. She raised the price, started offering it more often, and made $18,000 in six weeks, and since that time she's had six figure days because she figured it out that it's easier to make a lot of money in a short period of time than it is to make a little money over a long period of time. She sped up her revenue generation and increased the wealth of her family. They were able to buy their family a new house. They were able to go on great vacations all because she realized that wealth has a need for speed. Now, it's your turn. Speed up your income generation. Take your life to another level. Do a Perfect Webinar. Raise your prices. Do all of the things that Russell's telling you to do and you'll look in your rear view mirror one day and you'll say, "Wow, I can't believe I've come this far." My name is Myron Golden. If you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram at Myron Golden, and I'll see you over there for more content. Back to Russell Brunson. Russell Brunson: Dude. That was amazing. Thank you, Myron. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Go follow Myron on Instagram and listen to every single word he says. He is amazing. Anyway, I appreciate that. Hope you guys enjoyed this episode. If you did, please take a screenshot on your phone and go tag me and Myron on Instagram. Post a picture of it, tag me and Myron. And do the same thing on Facebook. Tag us, that way we can see your thoughts, your biggest takeaway, your biggest "A-ha". Thank you, Myron. Thank you, everybody. And we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Wealth Has A Need For Speed (With Special Guest Myron Golden!) full 350 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Hanging out behind the scenes of Two Comma Club Live, and Myron Golden was dropping gold. I decided to pick some up and give it to you guys today. Hanging out behind the scenes of Two Comma Club Live, and Myron Golden was dropping gold. I decided to pick some up and give it to you guys today. Earlier this week, I sat in the ‘green room’ of the Two Comma Club Live  event with one of my favorite people, Myron Golden. Myron is a ROCKSTAR… as a presenter, speaker, and as a person. I was doing my podcast in between my 2CC LIVE talks, so I thought this would be a great opportunity to have Myron talk about how wealth and money LOVE speed, and how knowing these principles can change your life. Myron says… “If you want to create wealth in your business and for you and your family, you have to increase the rate in which you generate revenue. You have to increase the SPEED at which you generate profits.” Want to know how to do this? I hope you do, because this is THE KEY to creating wealth faster than you imagined. And you can implement this pretty quickly once you know the secret! Dive into this episode of Marketing Secrets for some Myron Golden magic! ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Right now, I am actually in the green room, the Two Comma Club Live Event. This is the second time I've done this event. It's been really, really cool. And one of the presentations I wanted and one of the content pieces I needed for the event for everything to make sense was from Myron Golden. And if you don't know who Myron is, he is literally one of the coolest people on this planet. And I asked Martin if he'd fly to Boise to come and give a 20 minute content piece to everybody. And he said yes, which was insane. So he came yesterday and he spoke, and it was just super powerful. But then afterwards, we're sitting in the back in the green room talking about a whole bunch of stuff. And I'm not going to lie, he dropped probably 20 gold bombs and I pick them all up, put them in my pocket. But there's one, I was like, "I want to share this one with everybody." So I'm going to hand the microphone over to Myron here in a second and he's going to tell you guys this concept that's going to help you understand money and wealth and speed and why and how you can use these things to make more money quicker and change your life faster. So with that said, we're going to queue up a theme song and when we come back, you'll have a chance to hear from Mr. Myron Golden. Myron Golden: Well, hello, everybody. Myron Golden here, and I am really, really honored to be on Russell's podcast. And he asked me to share this concept about wealth having a need for speed. Most people don't understand how wealth is actually measured. Most people think wealth is measured in money, but wealth is actually measured more in time than it is the money. For instance, if you make $1 million, are you rich? And the answer is, it depends. What does it depend on? Well, I'll tell. If you make $25,000 a year and you work for 40 years, that's $1 million. Are you rich? No. But if you make that same $1 million in one year, are you rich? You're not Bill Gates rich, but you're definitely at least 40 times richer than the person who makes $25,000 a year. And the amount of money that you made was exactly the same. The difference was how fast you made it. See, most people don't realize that they already make enough money, they just don't make the amount of money they make fast enough or often enough. So if you want to create wealth for your family in your business what you have to do is you have to increase the rate at which you generate revenue. You have to increase the speed at which you generate profits. That's how you create wealth. And so if you make a million dollars a month, you're 12 times richer than the person who makes a $1 million a year. If you make $1 million a week, you're 52 times richer than a person makes $1 million a year. If you make $1 million a day, you're 365 times richer than the person who makes $1 million a year. So increase the speed. See, you spend money all day, everyday. People say, "I don't spend money every day." Oh, you do. Do you have a refrigerator at your house? Do you have an air conditioner or a heater at your house? Do you drive your car or someone in your family drives your car? Do you have cable and electric and all these other utilities? You have insurance. You're spending money all day, every day, and you're only getting paid every now and then. That's your biggest problem. So one of the things you want to do is you want to figure out a way to speed up how you get paid. So here's the first thing you do. Get paid more often. Well, in order to get paid more often, one of the things you have to do is you have to separate your income generation from time. How do you do that? You stop selling your time for money and you start selling a product instead of a service. When you sell a service, it requires time to fulfill. You paint houses. You can only paint so many houses a week. You get three houses this week maybe you're happy, you have a team. But if you get 30 houses this week, now you have a headache because you can't fulfill. So you have to do is sell a product. Why? It takes no longer to sell 300,000 products than it does to sell one. I remember the biggest sale I ever made. I've sold 155,000 copies of my book, From The Trash Man To The Cash Man, but I sold 100,000 copies in 15 minutes to one guy who owned a company. He bought 100,000 copies of my book for me. That was one sale, 15 minutes, and I sold the exact same amount of products. I sold more products, more books in that one sale than all the other books I've sold put together. So when you have a product, you literally give yourself the ability to speed up the rate at which you earn revenue. So have a product, that's number one. Number two, increase your price. You say, "How does that speed it up?" Well, if you sell something right now for say $2,500 and you change the price to say $25,000, now you just earn 10 times the money in the same amount of time. Wealth has a need for speed. So you increase the price. The second thing you do is, increase the number of people you sell to at once. Right now, we're in the green room at Two Comma Club Live. Eight months ago, we were at Funnel Hacking Live. Russell made an offer to 5,000 people. And only if 1% of those people buy, it's a crazy, amazing day. It's 10% of those people buy, crazy town. So one of the things you want to do is you want to make your offer to more people. That's why Russell teaches you the Perfect Webinar, because it gives you the ability to do your presentation one on many. That way, if a whole bunch of people say yes, and a whole bunch of people say no, they're all saying it at the same time and you're getting a much better result. Wealth has a need for speed. I've got one client, Eileen. She came to me. She wanted to buy my coaching program. She put down a down payment. She put down $2,000. She came to me, she said, "Myron," and she needed $18,000 for the rest of the down payment, that was just for half, she came to me, she said, "Myron, I really want to work with you." She didn't come to me. She called me on the phone and she said, "Myron, I really want to work with you. I thought I was going to be able to get the money and I wasn't able to get it. What do I do?" I said, "What you do is you collapse timeframes and make more offers." I said, "Take the number of offers you usually do in a year, make that number of offers every month. Take the number of offers you do every month, make a number of offers every week. Take the number of offers you do every week, make that number of offers every day for the next 30 days and you will have the $18,000." She said, "Okay, I'm going to do it." Well, she called me and told me she didn't have the money. I had no reason to doubt her. She called me back in six days and said, "I have the $18,000. Where do you want me to send it?" What did she do? She collapsed timeframes. She took an offer that she had. She started offering it more. She raised the price, started offering it more often, and made $18,000 in six weeks, and since that time she's had six figure days because she figured it out that it's easier to make a lot of money in a short period of time than it is to make a little money over a long period of time. She sped up her revenue generation and increased the wealth of her family. They were able to buy their family a new house. They were able to go on great vacations all because she realized that wealth has a need for speed. Now, it's your turn. Speed up your income generation. Take your life to another level. Do a Perfect Webinar. Raise your prices. Do all of the things that Russell's telling you to do and you'll look in your rear view mirror one day and you'll say, "Wow, I can't believe I've come this far." My name is Myron Golden. If you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram at Myron Golden, and I'll see you over there for more content. Back to Russell Brunson. Russell Brunson: Dude. That was amazing. Thank you, Myron. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Go follow Myron on Instagram and listen to every single word he says. He is amazing. Anyway, I appreciate that. Hope you guys enjoyed this episode. If you did, please take a screenshot on your phone and go tag me and Myron on Instagram. Post a picture of it, tag me and Myron. And do the same thing on Facebook. Tag us, that way we can see your thoughts, your biggest takeaway, your biggest "A-ha". Thank you, Myron. Thank you, everybody. And we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hanging out behind the scenes of Two Comma Club Live, and Myron Golden was dropping gold. I decided to pick some up and give it to you guys today.

Earlier this week, I sat in the ‘green room’ of the Two Comma Club Live  event with one of my favorite people, Myron Golden. Myron is a ROCKSTAR… as a presenter, speaker, and as a person.

I was doing my podcast in between my 2CC LIVE talks, so I thought this would be a great opportunity to have Myron talk about how wealth and money LOVE speed, and how knowing these principles can change your life.

Myron says…

“If you want to create wealth in your business and for you and your family, you have to increase the rate in which you generate revenue. You have to increase the SPEED at which you generate profits.”

Want to know how to do this? I hope you do, because this is THE KEY to creating wealth faster than you imagined. And you can implement this pretty quickly once you know the secret!

Dive into this episode of Marketing Secrets for some Myron Golden magic!

---Transcript---

Russell Brunson:

What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Right now, I am actually in the green room, the Two Comma Club Live Event. This is the second time I've done this event. It's been really, really cool. And one of the presentations I wanted and one of the content pieces I needed for the event for everything to make sense was from Myron Golden. And if you don't know who Myron is, he is literally one of the coolest people on this planet. And I asked Martin if he'd fly to Boise to come and give a 20 minute content piece to everybody. And he said yes, which was insane. So he came yesterday and he spoke, and it was just super powerful. But then afterwards, we're sitting in the back in the green room talking about a whole bunch of stuff.

And I'm not going to lie, he dropped probably 20 gold bombs and I pick them all up, put them in my pocket. But there's one, I was like, "I want to share this one with everybody." So I'm going to hand the microphone over to Myron here in a second and he's going to tell you guys this concept that's going to help you understand money and wealth and speed and why and how you can use these things to make more money quicker and change your life faster. So with that said, we're going to queue up a theme song and when we come back, you'll have a chance to hear from Mr. Myron Golden.

Myron Golden:

Well, hello, everybody. Myron Golden here, and I am really, really honored to be on Russell's podcast. And he asked me to share this concept about wealth having a need for speed. Most people don't understand how wealth is actually measured. Most people think wealth is measured in money, but wealth is actually measured more in time than it is the money. For instance, if you make $1 million, are you rich? And the answer is, it depends. What does it depend on? Well, I'll tell. If you make $25,000 a year and you work for 40 years, that's $1 million. Are you rich? No. But if you make that same $1 million in one year, are you rich? You're not Bill Gates rich, but you're definitely at least 40 times richer than the person who makes $25,000 a year. And the amount of money that you made was exactly the same. The difference was how fast you made it.

See, most people don't realize that they already make enough money, they just don't make the amount of money they make fast enough or often enough. So if you want to create wealth for your family in your business what you have to do is you have to increase the rate at which you generate revenue. You have to increase the speed at which you generate profits. That's how you create wealth. And so if you make a million dollars a month, you're 12 times richer than the person who makes a $1 million a year. If you make $1 million a week, you're 52 times richer than a person makes $1 million a year. If you make $1 million a day, you're 365 times richer than the person who makes $1 million a year. So increase the speed.

See, you spend money all day, everyday. People say, "I don't spend money every day." Oh, you do. Do you have a refrigerator at your house? Do you have an air conditioner or a heater at your house? Do you drive your car or someone in your family drives your car? Do you have cable and electric and all these other utilities? You have insurance. You're spending money all day, every day, and you're only getting paid every now and then. That's your biggest problem. So one of the things you want to do is you want to figure out a way to speed up how you get paid. So here's the first thing you do. Get paid more often. Well, in order to get paid more often, one of the things you have to do is you have to separate your income generation from time. How do you do that? You stop selling your time for money and you start selling a product instead of a service.

When you sell a service, it requires time to fulfill. You paint houses. You can only paint so many houses a week. You get three houses this week maybe you're happy, you have a team. But if you get 30 houses this week, now you have a headache because you can't fulfill. So you have to do is sell a product. Why? It takes no longer to sell 300,000 products than it does to sell one. I remember the biggest sale I ever made. I've sold 155,000 copies of my book, From The Trash Man To The Cash Man, but I sold 100,000 copies in 15 minutes to one guy who owned a company. He bought 100,000 copies of my book for me. That was one sale, 15 minutes, and I sold the exact same amount of products. I sold more products, more books in that one sale than all the other books I've sold put together. So when you have a product, you literally give yourself the ability to speed up the rate at which you earn revenue. So have a product, that's number one.

Number two, increase your price. You say, "How does that speed it up?" Well, if you sell something right now for say $2,500 and you change the price to say $25,000, now you just earn 10 times the money in the same amount of time. Wealth has a need for speed. So you increase the price. The second thing you do is, increase the number of people you sell to at once. Right now, we're in the green room at Two Comma Club Live. Eight months ago, we were at Funnel Hacking Live. Russell made an offer to 5,000 people. And only if 1% of those people buy, it's a crazy, amazing day. It's 10% of those people buy, crazy town. So one of the things you want to do is you want to make your offer to more people. That's why Russell teaches you the Perfect Webinar, because it gives you the ability to do your presentation one on many. That way, if a whole bunch of people say yes, and a whole bunch of people say no, they're all saying it at the same time and you're getting a much better result.

Wealth has a need for speed. I've got one client, Eileen. She came to me. She wanted to buy my coaching program. She put down a down payment. She put down $2,000. She came to me, she said, "Myron," and she needed $18,000 for the rest of the down payment, that was just for half, she came to me, she said, "Myron, I really want to work with you." She didn't come to me. She called me on the phone and she said, "Myron, I really want to work with you. I thought I was going to be able to get the money and I wasn't able to get it. What do I do?" I said, "What you do is you collapse timeframes and make more offers." I said, "Take the number of offers you usually do in a year, make that number of offers every month. Take the number of offers you do every month, make a number of offers every week. Take the number of offers you do every week, make that number of offers every day for the next 30 days and you will have the $18,000."

She said, "Okay, I'm going to do it." Well, she called me and told me she didn't have the money. I had no reason to doubt her. She called me back in six days and said, "I have the $18,000. Where do you want me to send it?" What did she do? She collapsed timeframes. She took an offer that she had. She started offering it more. She raised the price, started offering it more often, and made $18,000 in six weeks, and since that time she's had six figure days because she figured it out that it's easier to make a lot of money in a short period of time than it is to make a little money over a long period of time. She sped up her revenue generation and increased the wealth of her family. They were able to buy their family a new house. They were able to go on great vacations all because she realized that wealth has a need for speed.

Now, it's your turn. Speed up your income generation. Take your life to another level. Do a Perfect Webinar. Raise your prices. Do all of the things that Russell's telling you to do and you'll look in your rear view mirror one day and you'll say, "Wow, I can't believe I've come this far." My name is Myron Golden. If you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram at Myron Golden, and I'll see you over there for more content. Back to Russell Brunson.

Russell Brunson:

Dude. That was amazing. Thank you, Myron. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Go follow Myron on Instagram and listen to every single word he says. He is amazing. Anyway, I appreciate that. Hope you guys enjoyed this episode. If you did, please take a screenshot on your phone and go tag me and Myron on Instagram. Post a picture of it, tag me and Myron. And do the same thing on Facebook. Tag us, that way we can see your thoughts, your biggest takeaway, your biggest "A-ha". Thank you, Myron. Thank you, everybody. And we'll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 543 no Are You Able To Actually SEE Their Business Model? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/are-you-able-to-actually-see-their-business-model How quickly can you explain yours and identify others’ actual business model?… For years now, you’ve heard me go on and on about ‘hacking’; funnel hacking, design hacking, copy hacking, business model hacking… And still, some folks think that when I say ‘hacking’ they hear ‘stealing.’ Please understand that stealing is unethical! Hacking is NOT stealing. It’s not copying. It’s not duplicating. Hacking is ‘modeling.’ It’s taking a close look at what works, analyzing WHY and HOW it works and then using that model as a FRAMEWORK for your business, your funnel, your offer. Inside our company, we even look at industries OUTSIDE of the internet marketing space to see what’s working and we ask ourselves: “How can this work in OUR industry? It’s totally different than ours, but the PRINCIPLES are applicable to what we do. Let’s explore THAT!” So…how would you like to know how to ETHICALLY HACK (not steal) a super successful business, and apply it to YOUR business? Then DO NOT miss this episode of Marketing Secrets. ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. All right. As we all know, 2020's been insane, but now that we are rounding out the end of 2020, getting towards the end, I've got some really fun, and exciting, and cool things that I'm working on that I'm so excited for. Most of them I can't tell you about yet, unfortunately. It's coming soon. I promise. I will divulge everything in real time as soon as I am able to here on this podcast, but you guys have been behind the scenes with me now for six or seven years. Again, it's coming soon, but until it does come soon, until it's actually here, I can't tell you the details, but I can tell you what my mind is thinking about as I'm going into these things. I want to share with you guys some of my thoughts about funnel hacking, business models, and really what you need to do to be successful quickly in any business you decide you want to jump into. All right. What I want to talk about is just I spend so much time with you guys, with entrepreneurs talking about all these core concepts, the funnel hacking, and offer hacking, and design hacking, and all these things, right? Where we're looking at other businesses, looking at what they're doing, and trying to understand their models. The reason why is because... It drives me nuts because I get people, somebody like, "Oh, Russel says you should copy." I'm like, "That's not what I said." I never said to copy. I specifically said, "Don't copy. It's illegal and unethical." I said, "Look at business models." You try to understand what someone's doing, right? If I was going to get into the T-shirt business, I would go find out who are the top 10 most successful T-shirt business owners in the world, and see what they're doing. What are they doing? How are they structuring their funnel? Do they have upsells? Do they have downsells? Do they do a whole bunch of front ends? Do they have one front end with a lot of back ends? Is it a Shopify store? Is it ClickFunnels? Is it a funnel to a store? What's the model that's working today look like, right? I would study it. I would spend a lot of time figuring it out, and as soon as I saw it, I'm like, "Oh. That's it." It would be super easy and I would just model it, right? I'm not going to copy it. I'm going to say, "Okay. I can tell by based on these people who are making X amount of dollars a month or a year that they start with this, and they go from here, and they go from here." Now, I'm going to take my own T-shirts and my own designs. I'm going to use that structure and maybe the same pricing strategy, but I'm going to do my own thing. Right? That's kind of what funnel hacking is, but it's interesting because if you look at... I don't know. I think sometimes we all over-complicate this. There's not that many different business models, right? Depending on what business you're in, there's one or two business models, right? It's interesting. I think not enough people spend time just studying like, "What's this person's business model? Let me understand. What's this person's?" One of the things I do when I meet new people for the first time is literally I try to figure out their business model. That's the first set of questions I'm asking them. I'm like, "Okay. So, what do you sell? What's the price point? What's in the funnel? Do you have upsells? Do you do back end? What's the price point? How much money do you make? How much money do you make from this part versus this? What percentage of your revenue comes from here, versus here, versus here?" Within about five, 10 minutes I can usually get a really good snapshot of like, "Oh, that's what the business looks like? I understand it." Right? Then all I start doing is I'm interviewing people, and talking to people, and trying to figure things out. I'm looking at whose business model is the sexiest? Whose is the best, right? It was interesting. I'm not going to name names because I don't want everybody funnel hacking this person and everything, but there's a person I was hanging out with recently, and the first time I had a chance to meet this person, and super impressed with this person. I'll just keep saying that. Honestly, the person's awesome. Anyway, I kind of knew what their revenues were, and I knew what they were doing, and I started asking them questions. Within maybe five minutes or so, I saw their business model. I'm like, "That's it. What am I missing? There's got to be five ways to over-complicate this, right? What if I did this, or this, or this, or this?" They're like, "No. That's literally my business." I'm like, "Oh my gosh. It's so simple, and so brilliant, and so beautiful." It's like, I'm not in that business, but if I was going to do something kind of similar, I'd be like, "There's the structure. That's what the business model looks like. I do this. It drives to this and drives to this." Right? It was so exciting for me. As I'm working through these new projects, I'm like, "Okay. That person's business model fit really good in this business over here, right?" I can see it really quickly. Same kind of thing... I'll just show you guys a super easy example that might make this more tangible like Ben Settle. All you guys know Ben Settle. You've heard me talk about him. He's the guy who pioneered this concept of daily Seinfeld emails. He read the DotCom Secrets book. I talked about this, right? But Ben's business model is so simple, okay? Let me explain it. He's got a landing page that people opt into. When they opt into the landing page, they keep a free copy of his Email Players newsletter that he sells for $97 a month. You get a free issue. After that, he emails you every single day, and he sells you, in every single email every single day, the ability to sign up for his $97-a-month newsletter. That it. That's the business model, okay? He's done that now, send a email every single day, for as long as I've known him, which is almost a decade now. I don't think he's ever missed a day. He's so consistent, but his business model is drive traffic to the landing page. People give you a email address in exchange for a free issue of my newsletter. Then send a email every single day telling a story talking about my newsletter, and get them to buy my newsletter for $97 a month. That's it. That's the business model. Super simple. Super easy. Super non-complicated. That's it. If I was like, "Man, I want to be in a business where I have a print newsletter," it's like, "Okay. What's the business model? Oh, okay. I need a squeeze page. I need a free copy of my newsletter, probably the best one I got. Then every day I'm going to send a email talking about my newsletter." That's it. That's the business model, right? If I was launching a newsletter business like Ben Settle, his is teaching email copywriting. Maybe yours is teaching weight loss, or keto, or it's photography, or I don't know. Whatever your thing, it's that simple, right? Maybe you're like, "I don't really want a newsletter. I don't want to do a print newsletter, but I want to do a membership site." The same model, right? Just use Ben's model, but instead of selling a print newsletter, sell a membership site. Send a email every single day talking about something and pushing it back to the membership site, right? It's a simple model. It takes you 15 seconds. When I met Ben the first time, I asked him some questions like, "So, you do this, this, this?" Within five minutes I'm like, "Okay. I got it. That's the business model. It's so simple. It's super easy." Right? Then another thing that's kind of cool, this is what I've been noticing Ben do recently. He's been doing this print newsletter now for like a decade, right? Each newsletter has got kind of a theme, and so what he's been doing, which is awesome, is he's gone back through the last 10 years of print newsletters. He's like, "Oh, these 10 issues that I talked about how I deal with haters, right?" He took those 10 issues, put them together into a hardbound book, and he sells the hardbound book for like 500 bucks on like, "My top strategies for people when you have haters." That becomes a book. I know because I buy every one of them. I bought that one for 300 bucks, and he went back through. He was like, "Hey, here's 10 emails to do if..." They have to do with, I don't know, bad customer support. He's takes these five, 10, 15 print newsletters, publish, puts them together in one book, and sells the book now for 500 bucks. Right? He does it over, and over, and over again. He's just going through the back archives, putting them all together into a book based on a topic, and sells the book to the same people like me, who read all the newsletters. Loved the newsletter, and they're like, "Oh, I want the book version because that's really cool, too." Okay? That's his business model. It's so simple, right? You've got to think. Sometimes we over-complicate this. I know that I do because I get so excited by the business models, right? But there's this new business I am working on with some partners and some friends, and the first thing I did is we sat down and figured out what's the business model. Right? It's not even the funnel yet. It's just kind of almost a step ahead of that of just like, "Okay. What's the model going to look like?" I said, "Okay. We are going to do a summit to get initial exposure, right? Then from there we're going to have a software that's all about lead gen, and then from there we're going to have this product and this product." Right? A X-amount-of-dollar-a-month continuity program and then a X-amount-a-month high-ticket thing. That's it. That's the business. We know this is what we need to create. This is the things, it's the pieces, and we're doing that. We're executing on them, but that's the business model, right? For me, I'm curious if I was to sit down with you and say, "Okay. What's your business model?" Could you tell me what it is? I remember my very first mastermind meeting ever when I joined Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer's mastermind group, each person had a chance to share their business. I got up and my business model was simple. I said, "Okay. I drive traffic to this free DVD page. People pay me 4.95 to get my free DVD in the mail. I then send them this DVD in the mail, and then 21 days later we call them on the phone, and then we sell them a $5,500 coaching package, and if for some reason... Oh, and then between when they buy this or they order the DVD and we call them 21 days later, I try to get them to initiate an inbound call. I have a email sequence basically asking them to call me." That was the business model, and we did that, $10 million plus in that business model. A free DVD. 21 days later, call them on the phone. Sell them the coaching program for 5,500 bucks. Rinse and repeat. Do it over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Right? That was our model, okay? I explained it really quickly, and then people could help me tweak the intricacies like, "Oh, what if you did this? What if you did this, right? What if I asked them about the DVD, you had an upsell or a downsell?" All these things where funnels came from, but we didn't have that initially. It was just, free DVD. Call on the phone. Sell them $5,500 coaching. Done. That was the business model, right? ClickFunnels is really simple. This is the ClickFunnels business model, right? Somebody comes and they buy a book, free plus shipping. We had our upsells and downsells to try to break even our ad cost. From there, we then push people into the ClickFunnels auto webinar. We try to sell a $1,000 version of ClickFunnels. On the thank-you page, we give them a $1 trial... or excuse me, a free trial. Then our goal is either they buy the six-month access for 1,000 bucks or they get the free trial, and then they're in ClickFunnels. After they're in ClickFunnels, our goal is to get them from $97 a month to send up to 297 a month. Then we're at 297 a month, to get them to send up to $2,500 a month. That's ClickFunnels business model. That's it. Everything else is just appendages to that, right? That is the model. That is the structure, and again, there are funnels and intricacies inside of it, but the business really is simple. We're selling software, but we lead with a free book offer. From there, we push people to a webinar that sells the high-ticket version of the software. On the thank-you page, we sell the trial version of the software. After we get them in the software, then we try to send them up through our value ladder. Very simple. Very easy to explain. Our question for you, I want you to think through this, is what's your business model? Could you explain it really simply? Could you write it down on a napkin? If I was to sit down and start picking your brains like, "Okay. What do you do? Tell me this. Tell me this," within two to three minutes, could I get a pretty good idea of what your business model is? Okay? Number two is if either you've got that or you don't. If you don't, it's time to start thinking through, "What's my business model?" Right? Or number one, or yeah. If you're like, "Yeah. I do know that," then congratulations. You're a step further than most people. The second thing I want you to do is start doing this to other business owners. I want you to start picking their brains, but not in a way of... Just picking their brains just to figure out what their business model is and say, "Okay. Explain your business to me. You buy ads, right? What happens then? You buy the ads, and where does it go to? Okay. It goes to my whatever page. Okay. Then after they do that, then where's it go? And then what are you trying to do, and how much money does it make?" You just got to ask these, a couple of steps. Within two or three minutes, you'll know really closely exactly what their business model is. This is a fun exercise I want you guys to do and have some fun with. With that said, Norah just came in, and me and her- I'm wrestling a bear. Norah is wrestling a teddy bear on the floor. It's all stuffy and it's really big. It's a huge teddy bear. It's twice the size of her, and she's wrestling it, and we're about to go out swimming. So, I'm going to end this episode of the podcast, and that's your homework this time, you guys. Write it down for yourself what's your business model, and then go and ask at least one other business owner, if not more, what's their business model? What does it look like? Start asking the questions, and see how quickly you can get a glimpse of, "Oh, this is all they're doing." It's actually really simple, right? There's a lot of things in business, but how do we make this simple? I want to understand the business model, okay? Enjoy that. I appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for listening, and I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Are You Able To Actually SEE Their Business Model? full 349 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How quickly can you explain yours and identify others’ actual business model?… How quickly can you explain yours and identify others’ actual business model?… For years now, you’ve heard me go on and on about ‘hacking’; funnel hacking, design hacking, copy hacking, business model hacking… And still, some folks think that when I say ‘hacking’ they hear ‘stealing.’ Please understand that stealing is unethical! Hacking is NOT stealing. It’s not copying. It’s not duplicating. Hacking is ‘modeling.’ It’s taking a close look at what works, analyzing WHY and HOW it works and then using that model as a FRAMEWORK for your business, your funnel, your offer. Inside our company, we even look at industries OUTSIDE of the internet marketing space to see what’s working and we ask ourselves: “How can this work in OUR industry? It’s totally different than ours, but the PRINCIPLES are applicable to what we do. Let’s explore THAT!” So…how would you like to know how to ETHICALLY HACK (not steal) a super successful business, and apply it to YOUR business? Then DO NOT miss this episode of Marketing Secrets. ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. All right. As we all know, 2020's been insane, but now that we are rounding out the end of 2020, getting towards the end, I've got some really fun, and exciting, and cool things that I'm working on that I'm so excited for. Most of them I can't tell you about yet, unfortunately. It's coming soon. I promise. I will divulge everything in real time as soon as I am able to here on this podcast, but you guys have been behind the scenes with me now for six or seven years. Again, it's coming soon, but until it does come soon, until it's actually here, I can't tell you the details, but I can tell you what my mind is thinking about as I'm going into these things. I want to share with you guys some of my thoughts about funnel hacking, business models, and really what you need to do to be successful quickly in any business you decide you want to jump into. All right. What I want to talk about is just I spend so much time with you guys, with entrepreneurs talking about all these core concepts, the funnel hacking, and offer hacking, and design hacking, and all these things, right? Where we're looking at other businesses, looking at what they're doing, and trying to understand their models. The reason why is because... It drives me nuts because I get people, somebody like, "Oh, Russel says you should copy." I'm like, "That's not what I said." I never said to copy. I specifically said, "Don't copy. It's illegal and unethical." I said, "Look at business models." You try to understand what someone's doing, right? If I was going to get into the T-shirt business, I would go find out who are the top 10 most successful T-shirt business owners in the world, and see what they're doing. What are they doing? How are they structuring their funnel? Do they have upsells? Do they have downsells? Do they do a whole bunch of front ends? Do they have one front end with a lot of back ends? Is it a Shopify store? Is it ClickFunnels? Is it a funnel to a store? What's the model that's working today look like, right? I would study it. I would spend a lot of time figuring it out, and as soon as I saw it, I'm like, "Oh. That's it." It would be super easy and I would just model it, right? I'm not going to copy it. I'm going to say, "Okay. I can tell by based on these people who are making X amount of dollars a month or a year that they start with this, and they go from here, and they go from here." Now, I'm going to take my own T-shirts and my own designs. I'm going to use that structure and maybe the same pricing strategy, but I'm going to do my own thing. Right? That's kind of what funnel hacking is, but it's interesting because if you look at... I don't know. I think sometimes we all over-complicate this. There's not that many different business models, right? Depending on what business you're in, there's one or two business models, right? It's interesting. I think not enough people spend time just studying like, "What's this person's business model? Let me understand. What's this person's?" One of the things I do when I meet new people for the first time is literally I try to figure out their business model. That's the first set of questions I'm asking them. I'm like, "Okay. So, what do you sell? What's the price point? What's in the funnel? Do you have upsells? Do you do back end? What's the price point? How much money do you make? How much money do you make from this part versus this? What percentage of your revenue comes from here, versus here, versus here?" Within about five, 10 minutes I can usually get a really good snapshot of like, "Oh, that's what the business looks like? I understand it." Right? Then all I start doing is I'm interviewing people, and talking to people, and trying to figure things out. I'm looking at whose business model is the sexiest? Whose is the best, right? It was interesting. I'm not going to name names because I don't want everybody funnel hacking this person and everything, but there's a person I was hanging out with recently, and the first time I had a chance to meet this person, and super impressed with this person. I'll just keep saying that. Honestly, the person's awesome. Anyway, I kind of knew what their revenues were, and I knew what they were doing, and I started asking them questions. Within maybe five minutes or so, I saw their business model. I'm like, "That's it. What am I missing? There's got to be five ways to over-complicate this, right? What if I did this, or this, or this, or this?" They're like, "No. That's literally my business." I'm like, "Oh my gosh. It's so simple, and so brilliant, and so beautiful." It's like, I'm not in that business, but if I was going to do something kind of similar, I'd be like, "There's the structure. That's what the business model looks like. I do this. It drives to this and drives to this." Right? It was so exciting for me. As I'm working through these new projects, I'm like, "Okay. That person's business model fit really good in this business over here, right?" I can see it really quickly. Same kind of thing... I'll just show you guys a super easy example that might make this more tangible like Ben Settle. All you guys know Ben Settle. You've heard me talk about him. He's the guy who pioneered this concept of daily Seinfeld emails. He read the DotCom Secrets book. I talked about this, right? But Ben's business model is so simple, okay? Let me explain it. He's got a landing page that people opt into. When they opt into the landing page, they keep a free copy of his Email Players newsletter that he sells for $97 a month. You get a free issue. After that, he emails you every single day, and he sells you, in every single email every single day, the ability to sign up for his $97-a-month newsletter. That it. That's the business model, okay? He's done that now, send a email every single day, for as long as I've known him, which is almost a decade now. I don't think he's ever missed a day. He's so consistent, but his business model is drive traffic to the landing page. People give you a email address in exchange for a free issue of my newsletter. Then send a email every single day telling a story talking about my newsletter, and get them to buy my newsletter for $97 a month. That's it. That's the business model. Super simple. Super easy. Super non-complicated. That's it. If I was like, "Man, I want to be in a business where I have a print newsletter," it's like, "Okay. What's the business model? Oh, okay. I need a squeeze page. I need a free copy of my newsletter, probably the best one I got. Then every day I'm going to send a email talking about my newsletter." That's it. That's the business model, right? If I was launching a newsletter business like Ben Settle, his is teaching email copywriting. Maybe yours is teaching weight loss, or keto, or it's photography, or I don't know. Whatever your thing, it's that simple, right? Maybe you're like, "I don't really want a newsletter. I don't want to do a print newsletter, but I want to do a membership site." The same model, right? Just use Ben's model, but instead of selling a print newsletter, sell a membership site. Send a email every single day talking about something and pushing it back to the membership site, right? It's a simple model. It takes you 15 seconds. When I met Ben the first time, I asked him some questions like, "So, you do this, this, this?" Within five minutes I'm like, "Okay. I got it. That's the business model. It's so simple. It's super easy." Right? Then another thing that's kind of cool, this is what I've been noticing Ben do recently. He's been doing this print newsletter now for like a decade, right? Each newsletter has got kind of a theme, and so what he's been doing, which is awesome, is he's gone back through the last 10 years of print newsletters. He's like, "Oh, these 10 issues that I talked about how I deal with haters, right?" He took those 10 issues, put them together into a hardbound book, and he sells the hardbound book for like 500 bucks on like, "My top strategies for people when you have haters." That becomes a book. I know because I buy every one of them. I bought that one for 300 bucks, and he went back through. He was like, "Hey, here's 10 emails to do if..." They have to do with, I don't know, bad customer support. He's takes these five, 10, 15 print newsletters, publish, puts them together in one book, and sells the book now for 500 bucks. Right? He does it over, and over, and over again. He's just going through the back archives, putting them all together into a book based on a topic, and sells the book to the same people like me, who read all the newsletters. Loved the newsletter, and they're like, "Oh, I want the book version because that's really cool, too." Okay? That's his business model. It's so simple, right? You've got to think. Sometimes we over-complicate this. I know that I do because I get so excited by the business models, right? But there's this new business I am working on with some partners and some friends, and the first thing I did is we sat down and figured out what's the business model. Right? It's not even the funnel yet. It's just kind of almost a step ahead of that of just like, "Okay. What's the model going to look like?" I said, "Okay. We are going to do a summit to get initial exposure, right? Then from there we're going to have a software that's all about lead gen, and then from there we're going to have this product and this product." Right? A X-amount-of-dollar-a-month continuity program and then a X-amount-a-month high-ticket thing. That's it. That's the business. We know this is what we need to create. This is the things, it's the pieces, and we're doing that. We're executing on them, but that's the business model, right? For me, I'm curious if I was to sit down with you and say, "Okay. What's your business model?" Could you tell me what it is? I remember my very first mastermind meeting ever when I joined Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer's mastermind group, each person had a chance to share their business. I got up and my business model was simple. I said, "Okay. I drive traffic to this free DVD page. People pay me 4.95 to get my free DVD in the mail. I then send them this DVD in the mail, and then 21 days later we call them on the phone, and then we sell them a $5,500 coaching package, and if for some reason... Oh, and then between when they buy this or they order the DVD and we call them 21 days later, I try to get them to initiate an inbound call. I have a email sequence basically asking them to call me." That was the business model, and we did that, $10 million plus in that business model. A free DVD. 21 days later, call them on the phone. Sell them the coaching program for 5,500 bucks. Rinse and repeat. Do it over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Right? That was our model, okay? I explained it really quickly, and then people could help me tweak the intricacies like, "Oh, what if you did this? What if you did this, right? What if I asked them about the DVD, you had an upsell or a downsell?" All these things where funnels came from, but we didn't have that initially. It was just, free DVD. Call on the phone. Sell them $5,500 coaching. Done. That was the business model, right? ClickFunnels is really simple. This is the ClickFunnels business model, right? Somebody comes and they buy a book, free plus shipping. We had our upsells and downsells to try to break even our ad cost. From there, we then push people into the ClickFunnels auto webinar. We try to sell a $1,000 version of ClickFunnels. On the thank-you page, we give them a $1 trial... or excuse me, a free trial. Then our goal is either they buy the six-month access for 1,000 bucks or they get the free trial, and then they're in ClickFunnels. After they're in ClickFunnels, our goal is to get them from $97 a month to send up to 297 a month. Then we're at 297 a month, to get them to send up to $2,500 a month. That's ClickFunnels business model. That's it. Everything else is just appendages to that, right? That is the model. That is the structure, and again, there are funnels and intricacies inside of it, but the business really is simple. We're selling software, but we lead with a free book offer. From there, we push people to a webinar that sells the high-ticket version of the software. On the thank-you page, we sell the trial version of the software. After we get them in the software, then we try to send them up through our value ladder. Very simple. Very easy to explain. Our question for you, I want you to think through this, is what's your business model? Could you explain it really simply? Could you write it down on a napkin? If I was to sit down and start picking your brains like, "Okay. What do you do? Tell me this. Tell me this," within two to three minutes, could I get a pretty good idea of what your business model is? Okay? Number two is if either you've got that or you don't. If you don't, it's time to start thinking through, "What's my business model?" Right? Or number one, or yeah. If you're like, "Yeah. I do know that," then congratulations. You're a step further than most people. The second thing I want you to do is start doing this to other business owners. I want you to start picking their brains, but not in a way of... Just picking their brains just to figure out what their business model is and say, "Okay. Explain your business to me. You buy ads, right? What happens then? You buy the ads, and where does it go to? Okay. It goes to my whatever page. Okay. Then after they do that, then where's it go? And then what are you trying to do, and how much money does it make?" You just got to ask these, a couple of steps. Within two or three minutes, you'll know really closely exactly what their business model is. This is a fun exercise I want you guys to do and have some fun with. With that said, Norah just came in, and me and her- I'm wrestling a bear. Norah is wrestling a teddy bear on the floor. It's all stuffy and it's really big. It's a huge teddy bear. It's twice the size of her, and she's wrestling it, and we're about to go out swimming. So, I'm going to end this episode of the podcast, and that's your homework this time, you guys. Write it down for yourself what's your business model, and then go and ask at least one other business owner, if not more, what's their business model? What does it look like? Start asking the questions, and see how quickly you can get a glimpse of, "Oh, this is all they're doing." It's actually really simple, right? There's a lot of things in business, but how do we make this simple? I want to understand the business model, okay? Enjoy that. I appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for listening, and I'll talk to you soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How quickly can you explain yours and identify others’ actual business model?…

For years now, you’ve heard me go on and on about ‘hacking’; funnel hacking, design hacking, copy hacking, business model hacking… And still, some folks think that when I say ‘hacking’ they hear ‘stealing.’

Please understand that stealing is unethical! Hacking is NOT stealing. It’s not copying. It’s not duplicating. Hacking is ‘modeling.’ It’s taking a close look at what works, analyzing WHY and HOW it works and then using that model as a FRAMEWORK for your business, your funnel, your offer.

Inside our company, we even look at industries OUTSIDE of the internet marketing space to see what’s working and we ask ourselves: “How can this work in OUR industry? It’s totally different than ours, but the PRINCIPLES are applicable to what we do. Let’s explore THAT!”

So…how would you like to know how to ETHICALLY HACK (not steal) a super successful business, and apply it to YOUR business? Then DO NOT miss this episode of Marketing Secrets.

---Transcript---

What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets podcast. All right. As we all know, 2020's been insane, but now that we are rounding out the end of 2020, getting towards the end, I've got some really fun, and exciting, and cool things that I'm working on that I'm so excited for. Most of them I can't tell you about yet, unfortunately. It's coming soon. I promise. I will divulge everything in real time as soon as I am able to here on this podcast, but you guys have been behind the scenes with me now for six or seven years. Again, it's coming soon, but until it does come soon, until it's actually here, I can't tell you the details, but I can tell you what my mind is thinking about as I'm going into these things.

I want to share with you guys some of my thoughts about funnel hacking, business models, and really what you need to do to be successful quickly in any business you decide you want to jump into. All right. What I want to talk about is just I spend so much time with you guys, with entrepreneurs talking about all these core concepts, the funnel hacking, and offer hacking, and design hacking, and all these things, right? Where we're looking at other businesses, looking at what they're doing, and trying to understand their models. The reason why is because... It drives me nuts because I get people, somebody like, "Oh, Russel says you should copy."

I'm like, "That's not what I said." I never said to copy. I specifically said, "Don't copy. It's illegal and unethical." I said, "Look at business models." You try to understand what someone's doing, right? If I was going to get into the T-shirt business, I would go find out who are the top 10 most successful T-shirt business owners in the world, and see what they're doing. What are they doing? How are they structuring their funnel? Do they have upsells? Do they have downsells? Do they do a whole bunch of front ends? Do they have one front end with a lot of back ends? Is it a Shopify store? Is it ClickFunnels? Is it a funnel to a store?

What's the model that's working today look like, right? I would study it. I would spend a lot of time figuring it out, and as soon as I saw it, I'm like, "Oh. That's it." It would be super easy and I would just model it, right? I'm not going to copy it. I'm going to say, "Okay. I can tell by based on these people who are making X amount of dollars a month or a year that they start with this, and they go from here, and they go from here." Now, I'm going to take my own T-shirts and my own designs. I'm going to use that structure and maybe the same pricing strategy, but I'm going to do my own thing. Right?

That's kind of what funnel hacking is, but it's interesting because if you look at... I don't know. I think sometimes we all over-complicate this. There's not that many different business models, right? Depending on what business you're in, there's one or two business models, right? It's interesting. I think not enough people spend time just studying like, "What's this person's business model? Let me understand. What's this person's?" One of the things I do when I meet new people for the first time is literally I try to figure out their business model. That's the first set of questions I'm asking them.

I'm like, "Okay. So, what do you sell? What's the price point? What's in the funnel? Do you have upsells? Do you do back end? What's the price point? How much money do you make? How much money do you make from this part versus this? What percentage of your revenue comes from here, versus here, versus here?" Within about five, 10 minutes I can usually get a really good snapshot of like, "Oh, that's what the business looks like? I understand it." Right? Then all I start doing is I'm interviewing people, and talking to people, and trying to figure things out. I'm looking at whose business model is the sexiest? Whose is the best, right?

It was interesting. I'm not going to name names because I don't want everybody funnel hacking this person and everything, but there's a person I was hanging out with recently, and the first time I had a chance to meet this person, and super impressed with this person. I'll just keep saying that. Honestly, the person's awesome. Anyway, I kind of knew what their revenues were, and I knew what they were doing, and I started asking them questions. Within maybe five minutes or so, I saw their business model. I'm like, "That's it. What am I missing? There's got to be five ways to over-complicate this, right? What if I did this, or this, or this, or this?"

They're like, "No. That's literally my business." I'm like, "Oh my gosh. It's so simple, and so brilliant, and so beautiful." It's like, I'm not in that business, but if I was going to do something kind of similar, I'd be like, "There's the structure. That's what the business model looks like. I do this. It drives to this and drives to this." Right? It was so exciting for me. As I'm working through these new projects, I'm like, "Okay. That person's business model fit really good in this business over here, right?" I can see it really quickly. Same kind of thing... I'll just show you guys a super easy example that might make this more tangible like Ben Settle.

All you guys know Ben Settle. You've heard me talk about him. He's the guy who pioneered this concept of daily Seinfeld emails. He read the DotCom Secrets book. I talked about this, right? But Ben's business model is so simple, okay? Let me explain it. He's got a landing page that people opt into. When they opt into the landing page, they keep a free copy of his Email Players newsletter that he sells for $97 a month. You get a free issue. After that, he emails you every single day, and he sells you, in every single email every single day, the ability to sign up for his $97-a-month newsletter. That it. That's the business model, okay?

He's done that now, send a email every single day, for as long as I've known him, which is almost a decade now. I don't think he's ever missed a day. He's so consistent, but his business model is drive traffic to the landing page. People give you a email address in exchange for a free issue of my newsletter. Then send a email every single day telling a story talking about my newsletter, and get them to buy my newsletter for $97 a month. That's it. That's the business model. Super simple. Super easy. Super non-complicated. That's it.

If I was like, "Man, I want to be in a business where I have a print newsletter," it's like, "Okay. What's the business model? Oh, okay. I need a squeeze page. I need a free copy of my newsletter, probably the best one I got. Then every day I'm going to send a email talking about my newsletter." That's it. That's the business model, right? If I was launching a newsletter business like Ben Settle, his is teaching email copywriting. Maybe yours is teaching weight loss, or keto, or it's photography, or I don't know. Whatever your thing, it's that simple, right?

Maybe you're like, "I don't really want a newsletter. I don't want to do a print newsletter, but I want to do a membership site." The same model, right? Just use Ben's model, but instead of selling a print newsletter, sell a membership site. Send a email every single day talking about something and pushing it back to the membership site, right? It's a simple model. It takes you 15 seconds. When I met Ben the first time, I asked him some questions like, "So, you do this, this, this?" Within five minutes I'm like, "Okay. I got it. That's the business model. It's so simple. It's super easy." Right?

Then another thing that's kind of cool, this is what I've been noticing Ben do recently. He's been doing this print newsletter now for like a decade, right? Each newsletter has got kind of a theme, and so what he's been doing, which is awesome, is he's gone back through the last 10 years of print newsletters. He's like, "Oh, these 10 issues that I talked about how I deal with haters, right?" He took those 10 issues, put them together into a hardbound book, and he sells the hardbound book for like 500 bucks on like, "My top strategies for people when you have haters." That becomes a book.

I know because I buy every one of them. I bought that one for 300 bucks, and he went back through. He was like, "Hey, here's 10 emails to do if..." They have to do with, I don't know, bad customer support. He's takes these five, 10, 15 print newsletters, publish, puts them together in one book, and sells the book now for 500 bucks. Right? He does it over, and over, and over again. He's just going through the back archives, putting them all together into a book based on a topic, and sells the book to the same people like me, who read all the newsletters. Loved the newsletter, and they're like, "Oh, I want the book version because that's really cool, too." Okay?

That's his business model. It's so simple, right? You've got to think. Sometimes we over-complicate this. I know that I do because I get so excited by the business models, right? But there's this new business I am working on with some partners and some friends, and the first thing I did is we sat down and figured out what's the business model. Right? It's not even the funnel yet. It's just kind of almost a step ahead of that of just like, "Okay. What's the model going to look like?" I said, "Okay. We are going to do a summit to get initial exposure, right? Then from there we're going to have a software that's all about lead gen, and then from there we're going to have this product and this product." Right? A X-amount-of-dollar-a-month continuity program and then a X-amount-a-month high-ticket thing.

That's it. That's the business. We know this is what we need to create. This is the things, it's the pieces, and we're doing that. We're executing on them, but that's the business model, right? For me, I'm curious if I was to sit down with you and say, "Okay. What's your business model?" Could you tell me what it is? I remember my very first mastermind meeting ever when I joined Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer's mastermind group, each person had a chance to share their business. I got up and my business model was simple.

I said, "Okay. I drive traffic to this free DVD page. People pay me 4.95 to get my free DVD in the mail. I then send them this DVD in the mail, and then 21 days later we call them on the phone, and then we sell them a $5,500 coaching package, and if for some reason... Oh, and then between when they buy this or they order the DVD and we call them 21 days later, I try to get them to initiate an inbound call. I have a email sequence basically asking them to call me." That was the business model, and we did that, $10 million plus in that business model. A free DVD. 21 days later, call them on the phone. Sell them the coaching program for 5,500 bucks.

Rinse and repeat. Do it over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Right? That was our model, okay? I explained it really quickly, and then people could help me tweak the intricacies like, "Oh, what if you did this? What if you did this, right? What if I asked them about the DVD, you had an upsell or a downsell?" All these things where funnels came from, but we didn't have that initially. It was just, free DVD. Call on the phone. Sell them $5,500 coaching. Done. That was the business model, right?

ClickFunnels is really simple. This is the ClickFunnels business model, right? Somebody comes and they buy a book, free plus shipping. We had our upsells and downsells to try to break even our ad cost. From there, we then push people into the ClickFunnels auto webinar. We try to sell a $1,000 version of ClickFunnels. On the thank-you page, we give them a $1 trial... or excuse me, a free trial. Then our goal is either they buy the six-month access for 1,000 bucks or they get the free trial, and then they're in ClickFunnels.

After they're in ClickFunnels, our goal is to get them from $97 a month to send up to 297 a month. Then we're at 297 a month, to get them to send up to $2,500 a month. That's ClickFunnels business model. That's it. Everything else is just appendages to that, right? That is the model. That is the structure, and again, there are funnels and intricacies inside of it, but the business really is simple. We're selling software, but we lead with a free book offer. From there, we push people to a webinar that sells the high-ticket version of the software. On the thank-you page, we sell the trial version of the software. After we get them in the software, then we try to send them up through our value ladder.

Very simple. Very easy to explain. Our question for you, I want you to think through this, is what's your business model? Could you explain it really simply? Could you write it down on a napkin? If I was to sit down and start picking your brains like, "Okay. What do you do? Tell me this. Tell me this," within two to three minutes, could I get a pretty good idea of what your business model is? Okay? Number two is if either you've got that or you don't. If you don't, it's time to start thinking through, "What's my business model?" Right? Or number one, or yeah. If you're like, "Yeah. I do know that," then congratulations. You're a step further than most people.

The second thing I want you to do is start doing this to other business owners. I want you to start picking their brains, but not in a way of... Just picking their brains just to figure out what their business model is and say, "Okay. Explain your business to me. You buy ads, right? What happens then? You buy the ads, and where does it go to? Okay. It goes to my whatever page. Okay. Then after they do that, then where's it go? And then what are you trying to do, and how much money does it make?" You just got to ask these, a couple of steps. Within two or three minutes, you'll know really closely exactly what their business model is. This is a fun exercise I want you guys to do and have some fun with. With that said, Norah just came in, and me and her-

I'm wrestling a bear.

Norah is wrestling a teddy bear on the floor.

It's all stuffy and it's really big.

It's a huge teddy bear. It's twice the size of her, and she's wrestling it, and we're about to go out swimming. So, I'm going to end this episode of the podcast, and that's your homework this time, you guys. Write it down for yourself what's your business model, and then go and ask at least one other business owner, if not more, what's their business model? What does it look like? Start asking the questions, and see how quickly you can get a glimpse of, "Oh, this is all they're doing." It's actually really simple, right? There's a lot of things in business, but how do we make this simple? I want to understand the business model, okay? Enjoy that. I appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for listening, and I'll talk to you soon.

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]]> 798 no Some Ways To Promote Your Funnel https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/some-ways-to-promote-your-funnel After your funnel is live, the next question is “How do I get people to actually show up to my funnel?” This episode will give you some ideas. Now that the funnel is ready, it’s time to ATTRACT an audience–your ideal customers–to your funnel. One of my favorite ways to get traffic to your funnel is to create anticipation and desire. When a big Hollywood movie comes out, what happens? The movie star goes on “The Tonight Show” to talk about the movie. And then they show a cool clip of the movie to get you all excited so you WANT to go see the film! The movie star gets you all pumped up to BUY a ticket to the movie. It’s the same with your funnel. You can create the same DESIRE and ANTICIPATION to drive people to YOUR funnel! Want to know how to create this same “I gotta have this” desire for your product, service, or offer? Then check out this revealing episode of Marketing Secrets. ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you're having an amazing day today. Today, I want to talk about all the things you do after your funnel is finished. A lot of people create a funnel, and they're waiting for money to come. No. That's where it begins, not where it ends. All right. So to start this one off, there's a funny quote I heard one time from somebody that said something to the effect of like, "I can't wait to get married because then I'll be at the end of all my problems." And there's this older, married couple who laughs, and they say, "Yeah, you just don't know which end it is." Is that the end? It's the beginning. And I think it's kind of funny. It's true in our world of entrepreneurship and building funnels, right. We go out there, and we spend all the time, and this effort, and we're like, "As soon as my funnel's done, then I'll make money. And then I'll be at the end." And you get the funnel done. And I came at the end, and me as an experienced marketer who's been doing this for a long time look at you and smile and says, "Yeah, you don't know which end. This is the beginning." Right? The funnel is the thing that converts to sale. Right? But it's not the thing that gets people to come to you. Right? And so that's kind of what I want to talk about today. And I'm going to lead back... I'm going to step back and put as a wrestling analogy because that's what wrestlers do. We talk about wrestling. So for those of you who are wrestlers, you know that to take somebody down, there's only a couple real take downs, right? There's a single leg, a double leg, and high crotch. Like that's 90% of the take downs. There's other things, but if you look at the highest level like Olympics and things like that, NCA, almost all of the take downs are one of those three. That's the majority of it. Right? So if you're looking at it from outside, you're like, "Oh, wrestling's really easy. I've just got to learn three moves." And from the outside, it looks like that. But the reality is for each of those moves, there's a hundred different ways to set it up and get into that move. Right? So there's so many things I can do to get a high crotch, or double leg, or single leg. There's a million things to do. And these are all setups. And so the skill comes in like... What are all the set ups? How do you do them? How do you do when someone goes here, or here, or here, or here? That's where the secret sauce comes from. Right? And so same thing is true in our world. Right? When you come to building funnels, there's not like an unlimited type, amount of funnels. There's about 10. If you read Dotcom Secrets book, I show them. These are them. Inside click funnels, I see over a 100,000 funnels. Of 100,000 clients, each one have multiple funnels. It's like millions of funnels I've looked at. And the majority of almost all funnels that generate any kind of revenue are one of these kinds of funnels. Right? So it's not like we've got to reinvent the wheel, or figure out the next thing. It's there. And if you don't know what those are, right, if you don't know what the double leg, single leg and high crotch is for funnel world, go read the new updated hard bound Dotcom Secrets book. They're all in there. There's no secret sauce. Like, they're there. You have those, you've got everything you need. Right? And so that's the first step. So the second step now is like, "Okay, how do we get people in? What are the setups? What all different ways that we get somebody to come in, and start buying that book?" Sorry, I'm looking at my book right now. Get them to come into my funnel, and buy whatever I'm selling. Right? So that's kind of the next step. That's what I want to talk about today, is just help you understand that when the funnel's done, now you're on the other side of it. So I've been doing this... And I talked about during, I think the last podcast episode, us launching the understand.me summit, which has been so cool. And it's been doing really well. We launched on the first day. We hit the 1 Comma Club on day number one. And my partners then started freaking out, they were so excited. And it's just... it's fun seeing it all come together. Right? And then... So what was fun is the summit launch. And they went to all the speakers, they promote it, a bunch of speakers promoted it. And then they're like, "Okay. Day two. What do we do now?" And I'm like, "Yes, you were at the end of your problems, but it's the beginning end. It's that end of it. Right? Now, we've got to figure out how do we keep promoting this? What are the things that we do?" And so... And again, there's tons. If you've read the Traffic Secrets book, you've seen I go through tons of different ways to do these things, right? And the reality is that the number of setups for a single leg are unlimited. The setups of the way to get someone in your funnel are unlimited. And you guys start being creative, start thinking about it. What are all the different things? Obviously, can go buy Facebook ads. You can buy Google ads. You can do those things. You can do things with like... they start getting creative. And so what I told our people, and so I'm giving you guys this as an idea, right? I said, "Okay, now a lot of speakers have promoted it. The next phase is how else we get them involved in this promotion? Like what other things we can do?" I said, "The first thing to do is we should interview them, right?" Like when a big new movie comes out in Hollywood, what do they do? They don't just go buy Facebook ads that tell people, "Show up." The actors who are in the show, they go on the road and they start going on the talk shows, right? They're on the Today Show, and the Tonight Show, and Good Morning America, telling the story of the movie, why it's going to be so good. They show a little clip of it, and get people excited. Right? It builds anticipation and desire. I said, "We've got to do the same thing with our summit, right? If you want people to come in, we've got to do the same thing. We've got to build the anticipation and desire, and get people fired up." And so my next assignment for Mike and Mandy was like, "Okay. Go back to all the speakers and say, 'Hey, can we do a Facebook Live on each of your fan pages?'" We can do the Facebook Live. And they said, "Sweet. What do we do on Facebook Live? Do we do another interview?" I'm like, "No, no, no, no. You're not doing an interview. You already did the interview. That's the content. That's what we're giving them. We don't want... The goal here is not to give people more content. It's to create the desire for the content. Right?" Think about like when you look at the Tonight Show and Robert Downey Jr. is coming to talk about End Game, he's not showing you the movie. He's not giving you the content. He's creating desire for the content. He's going to tell you some funny story about what happened while they were filming it. And he's like, "You guys want to see clip of it?" And he shows a little clip, and people are like, "Oh, I must go see the movie." Right? You call all your friends, like "Cancel all your plans," and you buy your tickets, and you're there. Right? Because it created a desire for the movie. Right? So all these setups, right, this set up is for single leg, this is the setup for your funnel. They're all things that create desire for the thing that's inside of your funnel. Right? And so I said, "When you do these interviews, they're not long, the short that's three, five minutes max." Right? And maybe 10, if you really want to go along, but I don't think it needs to be that long. Right? And so it's three to five minutes. And the question was like, "Hey, we're here today with so, and so. They're part of our understand.me summit. We're so excited. And a really quick, this guest, they specialize in blah, blah, blah, blah. And do you want to tell us really quick, why you got excited about this?" And the guest comes on like, "Oh yeah. So I got excited about this because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Right? Cool. "Now inside the summit, obviously you told us all your secrets about how you do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But tell us what's one quick thing that they're going to learn when they have a chance to listen to your presentation." Right? And the person's like, "Okay. Well, we went deep, but one cool thing they're going to learn, they're going to learn how to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Okay? Notice this, the person that said, "Let me walk you through the process." The person said, "In the summit, you're going to learn this thing." Right? So it's creating desire, is telling them what they're going to learn, not how to do the thing. Right? It's just like, "Here's what you're going to learn." So it gives them that little thing. And now they've got the hook. And then the last thing is for the host to be like, "Okay, now my favorite thing about your interview is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Right? And then everyone... And then they have a call to action. Like, "Okay, if you guys want to hear so-and-so's interview, go to whatever.com." And that's kind of how it was. Right? So I told them, "Go to all speakers and do that." And hopefully we can do it on their fan pages because if it is, then all of their fans are going to see this cool interview with that person pushing them back to their thing. Right? And so that's kind of the next phase of promotion. Okay? Again, those are all different setups, right, to get somebody in the leg. Now, you start thinking, "Okay. How else how can we amplify this? How else can we boost it?" And so my next thought is something similar to what we did when I did my interview with Tony Robbins, right? When I launched the Expert Secrets book, I was lucky enough to have Tony Robbins interview me on his fan page. So his fans saw the interview, which was crazy. But then when it was done, we called Tony's team, like, "Hey, a ton of people saw the interview. Can we get access to your ads account? And we'll actually pay for the ads to promote this interview to your people." And Tony's people were like, " What's in it for us?" I'm like, "Well, we'll pay for the ads, and you'll get affiliate commission. So there's there's money in it for you, and all this stuff." And they said, "Sure." So they let us have access to the ads account. We promoted Tony's interview to Tony's people. And that video ended up being seen by over 3.5 million people. Right? Another setup to get more people now to watch the presentation, which gets them then to come to the funnel. Right? So it's just like always taking it to the next step, and the next step, and the next step further. And so that's the next step for us. It's like, "Okay, now, after we've done the interview, let's see if we can promote that to their following and get more noise out there to create more desire for people to come back into our funnels." Okay. And so again, this is just one little strategy. There's a million of them. I just want you guys thinking differently, right? I want you guys thinking differently, besides just, "Hey, my funnel's done. Now what?" Like... Okay, now it's done. What do they do in Hollywood? They take the show on the road, the actors, the people so if it's your product, you should be going on the road, getting interviewed, doing things like that. If there's people in your product, you should be in their fan pages, and getting... interviewing them on their fan pages to get people to come back. There's so many things you can do. If you've got success stories, if you've got students who had success with your product, you can go on their fan pages, their personal pages and interview them about their success story. And then use that as an ad. I remember when Kaelin Poulin was building LadyBoss, I remember she told me she was like... There's a segment of the market that loves her. Right? They're like, "I love Kaelin. She's amazing." And they just listen to her. But she's like... Because you know... If you know Kaelin, this is getting back when she was first getting started. She had her nose pierced, tattoos, she kind of had this edgy feel. And so some people loved that, but she was like, "A lot of the moms didn't connect to me very well." And so she's like, "I understood that. So I was like, how do I open up my, my business to those... I want to attract those people, and I can serve them, but they just don't connect with me as close as you know right now." And so she said, "Well, who of my customers are moms who'd gone through the program and had success?" And she found a couple of them. And she said, "Can I interview you about your success story?" And they said, "Yeah." And so... it's kind of a cool story. She actually went through the Expert Secrets book and took the Epiphany Bridge script questions. And she sent it to all of these women, and said, "Okay, I want you to write your story, answer these eight questions." Right? And took the eight questions from the Expert Secrets book, and filled them out. So like, what's your backstory? What was the... blah, blah, blah. They filled out the questions. And then Kaelin got on the interview, and interviewed them on Facebook Live, asked them the questions. The women got them emotional, and all of a sudden had Kaelin interviewing a mom who had gone through a program that had success. And then Kaelin interviewing a guy who'd gone through it. Maybe that wasn't true. I don't think she lets guys in. Anyway, but you know what I mean. All these different people in different segments that weren't Kaelin. And then they took those videos of the interviews, and those became ads that targeted that demographic. And all of a sudden that demographic was like, "I know I may not connect with Kaelin, but man, I connect with the person that Kaelin helped, and because of that, now I connect with Kaelin." Right? And it starts opening up this huge, new markets, new doors for you. So I'm telling you this because I just want you guys thinking differently. Right? There's so many ways to do this. It's just being creative and starting to have fun with this. Okay? There's the art and the science of funnel building, right? The science is like, "This is the funnel structure." Dotcom Secrets is like, "Here's the science. You build the funnel distractions. It's how it works." Expert Secrets gets into the art of like the messaging inside the funnel, and Traffic Secrets is the art of how do you get the ads out there? You know? And in Traffic, there's art and science. There's how do you do the placements, those kind of things. But there's the art of how do I create things? How do I find things that are interesting? How do I get people's attention? And that's where it gets fun. So, anyhoo, I just wanted to share some of those ideas with you guys, mostly to stimulate your brains today, and get you guys thinking differently. Okay? Because if your funnel's done and it's launched, you're at the end of all your problems, but you're about to find out it's the other end. It's the beginning. And it's time to start learning the traffic side of this game, and start having fun with that as well. So with that said, that yes, I appreciate you all. Have an amazing day, and I'll talk to you again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Some Ways To Promote Your Funnel full 348 Russell Brunson | YAP Media After your funnel is live, the next question is “How do I get people to actually show up to my funnel?” This episode will give you some ideas. After your funnel is live, the next question is “How do I get people to actually show up to my funnel?” This episode will give you some ideas. Now that the funnel is ready, it’s time to ATTRACT an audience–your ideal customers–to your funnel. One of my favorite ways to get traffic to your funnel is to create anticipation and desire. When a big Hollywood movie comes out, what happens? The movie star goes on “The Tonight Show” to talk about the movie. And then they show a cool clip of the movie to get you all excited so you WANT to go see the film! The movie star gets you all pumped up to BUY a ticket to the movie. It’s the same with your funnel. You can create the same DESIRE and ANTICIPATION to drive people to YOUR funnel! Want to know how to create this same “I gotta have this” desire for your product, service, or offer? Then check out this revealing episode of Marketing Secrets. ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you're having an amazing day today. Today, I want to talk about all the things you do after your funnel is finished. A lot of people create a funnel, and they're waiting for money to come. No. That's where it begins, not where it ends. All right. So to start this one off, there's a funny quote I heard one time from somebody that said something to the effect of like, "I can't wait to get married because then I'll be at the end of all my problems." And there's this older, married couple who laughs, and they say, "Yeah, you just don't know which end it is." Is that the end? It's the beginning. And I think it's kind of funny. It's true in our world of entrepreneurship and building funnels, right. We go out there, and we spend all the time, and this effort, and we're like, "As soon as my funnel's done, then I'll make money. And then I'll be at the end." And you get the funnel done. And I came at the end, and me as an experienced marketer who's been doing this for a long time look at you and smile and says, "Yeah, you don't know which end. This is the beginning." Right? The funnel is the thing that converts to sale. Right? But it's not the thing that gets people to come to you. Right? And so that's kind of what I want to talk about today. And I'm going to lead back... I'm going to step back and put as a wrestling analogy because that's what wrestlers do. We talk about wrestling. So for those of you who are wrestlers, you know that to take somebody down, there's only a couple real take downs, right? There's a single leg, a double leg, and high crotch. Like that's 90% of the take downs. There's other things, but if you look at the highest level like Olympics and things like that, NCA, almost all of the take downs are one of those three. That's the majority of it. Right? So if you're looking at it from outside, you're like, "Oh, wrestling's really easy. I've just got to learn three moves." And from the outside, it looks like that. But the reality is for each of those moves, there's a hundred different ways to set it up and get into that move. Right? So there's so many things I can do to get a high crotch, or double leg, or single leg. There's a million things to do. And these are all setups. And so the skill comes in like... What are all the set ups? How do you do them? How do you do when someone goes here, or here, or here, or here? That's where the secret sauce comes from. Right? And so same thing is true in our world. Right? When you come to building funnels, there's not like an unlimited type, amount of funnels. There's about 10. If you read Dotcom Secrets book, I show them. These are them. Inside click funnels, I see over a 100,000 funnels. Of 100,000 clients, each one have multiple funnels. It's like millions of funnels I've looked at. And the majority of almost all funnels that generate any kind of revenue are one of these kinds of funnels. Right? So it's not like we've got to reinvent the wheel, or figure out the next thing. It's there. And if you don't know what those are, right, if you don't know what the double leg, single leg and high crotch is for funnel world, go read the new updated hard bound Dotcom Secrets book. They're all in there. There's no secret sauce. Like, they're there. You have those, you've got everything you need. Right? And so that's the first step. So the second step now is like, "Okay, how do we get people in? What are the setups? What all different ways that we get somebody to come in, and start buying that book?" Sorry, I'm looking at my book right now. Get them to come into my funnel, and buy whatever I'm selling. Right? So that's kind of the next step. That's what I want to talk about today, is just help you understand that when the funnel's done, now you're on the other side of it. So I've been doing this... And I talked about during, I think the last podcast episode, us launching the understand.me summit, which has been so cool. And it's been doing really well. We launched on the first day. We hit the 1 Comma Club on day number one. And my partners then started freaking out, they were so excited. And it's just... it's fun seeing it all come together. Right? And then... So what was fun is the summit launch. And they went to all the speakers, they promote it, a bunch of speakers promoted it. And then they're like, "Okay. Day two. What do we do now?" And I'm like, "Yes, you were at the end of your problems, but it's the beginning end. It's that end of it. Right? Now, we've got to figure out how do we keep promoting this? What are the things that we do?" And so... And again, there's tons. If you've read the Traffic Secrets book, you've seen I go through tons of different ways to do these things, right? And the reality is that the number of setups for a single leg are unlimited. The setups of the way to get someone in your funnel are unlimited. And you guys start being creative, start thinking about it. What are all the different things? Obviously, can go buy Facebook ads. You can buy Google ads. You can do those things. You can do things with like... they start getting creative. And so what I told our people, and so I'm giving you guys this as an idea, right? I said, "Okay, now a lot of speakers have promoted it. The next phase is how else we get them involved in this promotion? Like what other things we can do?" I said, "The first thing to do is we should interview them, right?" Like when a big new movie comes out in Hollywood, what do they do? They don't just go buy Facebook ads that tell people, "Show up." The actors who are in the show, they go on the road and they start going on the talk shows, right? They're on the Today Show, and the Tonight Show, and Good Morning America, telling the story of the movie, why it's going to be so good. They show a little clip of it, and get people excited. Right? It builds anticipation and desire. I said, "We've got to do the same thing with our summit, right? If you want people to come in, we've got to do the same thing. We've got to build the anticipation and desire, and get people fired up." And so my next assignment for Mike and Mandy was like, "Okay. Go back to all the speakers and say, 'Hey, can we do a Facebook Live on each of your fan pages?'" We can do the Facebook Live. And they said, "Sweet. What do we do on Facebook Live? Do we do another interview?" I'm like, "No, no, no, no. You're not doing an interview. You already did the interview. That's the content. That's what we're giving them. We don't want... The goal here is not to give people more content. It's to create the desire for the content. Right?" Think about like when you look at the Tonight Show and Robert Downey Jr. is coming to talk about End Game, he's not showing you the movie. He's not giving you the content. He's creating desire for the content. He's going to tell you some funny story about what happened while they were filming it. And he's like, "You guys want to see clip of it?" And he shows a little clip, and people are like, "Oh, I must go see the movie." Right? You call all your friends, like "Cancel all your plans," and you buy your tickets, and you're there. Right? Because it created a desire for the movie. Right? So all these setups, right, this set up is for single leg, this is the setup for your funnel. They're all things that create desire for the thing that's inside of your funnel. Right? And so I said, "When you do these interviews, they're not long, the short that's three, five minutes max." Right? And maybe 10, if you really want to go along, but I don't think it needs to be that long. Right? And so it's three to five minutes. And the question was like, "Hey, we're here today with so, and so. They're part of our understand.me summit. We're so excited. And a really quick, this guest, they specialize in blah, blah, blah, blah. And do you want to tell us really quick, why you got excited about this?" And the guest comes on like, "Oh yeah. So I got excited about this because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Right? Cool. "Now inside the summit, obviously you told us all your secrets about how you do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But tell us what's one quick thing that they're going to learn when they have a chance to listen to your presentation." Right? And the person's like, "Okay. Well, we went deep, but one cool thing they're going to learn, they're going to learn how to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Okay? Notice this, the person that said, "Let me walk you through the process." The person said, "In the summit, you're going to learn this thing." Right? So it's creating desire, is telling them what they're going to learn, not how to do the thing. Right? It's just like, "Here's what you're going to learn." So it gives them that little thing. And now they've got the hook. And then the last thing is for the host to be like, "Okay, now my favorite thing about your interview is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Right? And then everyone... And then they have a call to action. Like, "Okay, if you guys want to hear so-and-so's interview, go to whatever.com." And that's kind of how it was. Right? So I told them, "Go to all speakers and do that." And hopefully we can do it on their fan pages because if it is, then all of their fans are going to see this cool interview with that person pushing them back to their thing. Right? And so that's kind of the next phase of promotion. Okay? Again, those are all different setups, right, to get somebody in the leg. Now, you start thinking, "Okay. How else how can we amplify this? How else can we boost it?" And so my next thought is something similar to what we did when I did my interview with Tony Robbins, right? When I launched the Expert Secrets book, I was lucky enough to have Tony Robbins interview me on his fan page. So his fans saw the interview, which was crazy. But then when it was done, we called Tony's team, like, "Hey, a ton of people saw the interview. Can we get access to your ads account? And we'll actually pay for the ads to promote this interview to your people." And Tony's people were like, " What's in it for us?" I'm like, "Well, we'll pay for the ads, and you'll get affiliate commission. So there's there's money in it for you, and all this stuff." And they said, "Sure." So they let us have access to the ads account. We promoted Tony's interview to Tony's people. And that video ended up being seen by over 3.5 million people. Right? Another setup to get more people now to watch the presentation, which gets them then to come to the funnel. Right? So it's just like always taking it to the next step, and the next step, and the next step further. And so that's the next step for us. It's like, "Okay, now, after we've done the interview, let's see if we can promote that to their following and get more noise out there to create more desire for people to come back into our funnels." Okay. And so again, this is just one little strategy. There's a million of them. I just want you guys thinking differently, right? I want you guys thinking differently, besides just, "Hey, my funnel's done. Now what?" Like... Okay, now it's done. What do they do in Hollywood? They take the show on the road, the actors, the people so if it's your product, you should be going on the road, getting interviewed, doing things like that. If there's people in your product, you should be in their fan pages, and getting... interviewing them on their fan pages to get people to come back. There's so many things you can do. If you've got success stories, if you've got students who had success with your product, you can go on their fan pages, their personal pages and interview them about their success story. And then use that as an ad. I remember when Kaelin Poulin was building LadyBoss, I remember she told me she was like... There's a segment of the market that loves her. Right? They're like, "I love Kaelin. She's amazing." And they just listen to her. But she's like... Because you know... If you know Kaelin, this is getting back when she was first getting started. She had her nose pierced, tattoos, she kind of had this edgy feel. And so some people loved that, but she was like, "A lot of the moms didn't connect to me very well." And so she's like, "I understood that. So I was like, how do I open up my, my business to those... I want to attract those people, and I can serve them, but they just don't connect with me as close as you know right now." And so she said, "Well, who of my customers are moms who'd gone through the program and had success?" And she found a couple of them. And she said, "Can I interview you about your success story?" And they said, "Yeah." And so... it's kind of a cool story. She actually went through the Expert Secrets book and took the Epiphany Bridge script questions. And she sent it to all of these women, and said, "Okay, I want you to write your story, answer these eight questions." Right? And took the eight questions from the Expert Secrets book, and filled them out. So like, what's your backstory? What was the... blah, blah, blah. They filled out the questions. And then Kaelin got on the interview, and interviewed them on Facebook Live, asked them the questions. The women got them emotional, and all of a sudden had Kaelin interviewing a mom who had gone through a program that had success. And then Kaelin interviewing a guy who'd gone through it. Maybe that wasn't true. I don't think she lets guys in. Anyway, but you know what I mean. All these different people in different segments that weren't Kaelin. And then they took those videos of the interviews, and those became ads that targeted that demographic. And all of a sudden that demographic was like, "I know I may not connect with Kaelin, but man, I connect with the person that Kaelin helped, and because of that, now I connect with Kaelin." Right? And it starts opening up this huge, new markets, new doors for you. So I'm telling you this because I just want you guys thinking differently. Right? There's so many ways to do this. It's just being creative and starting to have fun with this. Okay? There's the art and the science of funnel building, right? The science is like, "This is the funnel structure." Dotcom Secrets is like, "Here's the science. You build the funnel distractions. It's how it works." Expert Secrets gets into the art of like the messaging inside the funnel, and Traffic Secrets is the art of how do you get the ads out there? You know? And in Traffic, there's art and science. There's how do you do the placements, those kind of things. But there's the art of how do I create things? How do I find things that are interesting? How do I get people's attention? And that's where it gets fun. So, anyhoo, I just wanted to share some of those ideas with you guys, mostly to stimulate your brains today, and get you guys thinking differently. Okay? Because if your funnel's done and it's launched, you're at the end of all your problems, but you're about to find out it's the other end. It's the beginning. And it's time to start learning the traffic side of this game, and start having fun with that as well. So with that said, that yes, I appreciate you all. Have an amazing day, and I'll talk to you again soon. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices After your funnel is live, the next question is “How do I get people to actually show up to my funnel?” This episode will give you some ideas.

Now that the funnel is ready, it’s time to ATTRACT an audience–your ideal customers–to your funnel. One of my favorite ways to get traffic to your funnel is to create anticipation and desire.

When a big Hollywood movie comes out, what happens? The movie star goes on “The Tonight Show” to talk about the movie. And then they show a cool clip of the movie to get you all excited so you WANT to go see the film! The movie star gets you all pumped up to BUY a ticket to the movie.

It’s the same with your funnel. You can create the same DESIRE and ANTICIPATION to drive people to YOUR funnel!

Want to know how to create this same “I gotta have this” desire for your product, service, or offer? Then check out this revealing episode of Marketing Secrets.

---Transcript---

What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you're having an amazing day today. Today, I want to talk about all the things you do after your funnel is finished. A lot of people create a funnel, and they're waiting for money to come. No. That's where it begins, not where it ends.

All right. So to start this one off, there's a funny quote I heard one time from somebody that said something to the effect of like, "I can't wait to get married because then I'll be at the end of all my problems." And there's this older, married couple who laughs, and they say, "Yeah, you just don't know which end it is." Is that the end? It's the beginning. And I think it's kind of funny. It's true in our world of entrepreneurship and building funnels, right.

We go out there, and we spend all the time, and this effort, and we're like, "As soon as my funnel's done, then I'll make money. And then I'll be at the end." And you get the funnel done. And I came at the end, and me as an experienced marketer who's been doing this for a long time look at you and smile and says, "Yeah, you don't know which end. This is the beginning." Right? The funnel is the thing that converts to sale. Right? But it's not the thing that gets people to come to you. Right? And so that's kind of what I want to talk about today.

And I'm going to lead back... I'm going to step back and put as a wrestling analogy because that's what wrestlers do. We talk about wrestling. So for those of you who are wrestlers, you know that to take somebody down, there's only a couple real take downs, right? There's a single leg, a double leg, and high crotch. Like that's 90% of the take downs. There's other things, but if you look at the highest level like Olympics and things like that, NCA, almost all of the take downs are one of those three. That's the majority of it. Right?

So if you're looking at it from outside, you're like, "Oh, wrestling's really easy. I've just got to learn three moves." And from the outside, it looks like that. But the reality is for each of those moves, there's a hundred different ways to set it up and get into that move. Right? So there's so many things I can do to get a high crotch, or double leg, or single leg. There's a million things to do. And these are all setups. And so the skill comes in like... What are all the set ups? How do you do them? How do you do when someone goes here, or here, or here, or here? That's where the secret sauce comes from. Right?

And so same thing is true in our world. Right? When you come to building funnels, there's not like an unlimited type, amount of funnels. There's about 10. If you read Dotcom Secrets book, I show them. These are them. Inside click funnels, I see over a 100,000 funnels. Of 100,000 clients, each one have multiple funnels. It's like millions of funnels I've looked at. And the majority of almost all funnels that generate any kind of revenue are one of these kinds of funnels. Right? So it's not like we've got to reinvent the wheel, or figure out the next thing. It's there.

And if you don't know what those are, right, if you don't know what the double leg, single leg and high crotch is for funnel world, go read the new updated hard bound Dotcom Secrets book. They're all in there. There's no secret sauce. Like, they're there. You have those, you've got everything you need. Right? And so that's the first step.

So the second step now is like, "Okay, how do we get people in? What are the setups? What all different ways that we get somebody to come in, and start buying that book?" Sorry, I'm looking at my book right now. Get them to come into my funnel, and buy whatever I'm selling. Right? So that's kind of the next step. That's what I want to talk about today, is just help you understand that when the funnel's done, now you're on the other side of it.

So I've been doing this... And I talked about during, I think the last podcast episode, us launching the understand.me summit, which has been so cool. And it's been doing really well. We launched on the first day. We hit the 1 Comma Club on day number one. And my partners then started freaking out, they were so excited. And it's just... it's fun seeing it all come together. Right? And then... So what was fun is the summit launch. And they went to all the speakers, they promote it, a bunch of speakers promoted it. And then they're like, "Okay. Day two. What do we do now?" And I'm like, "Yes, you were at the end of your problems, but it's the beginning end. It's that end of it. Right? Now, we've got to figure out how do we keep promoting this? What are the things that we do?"

And so... And again, there's tons. If you've read the Traffic Secrets book, you've seen I go through tons of different ways to do these things, right? And the reality is that the number of setups for a single leg are unlimited. The setups of the way to get someone in your funnel are unlimited. And you guys start being creative, start thinking about it. What are all the different things? Obviously, can go buy Facebook ads. You can buy Google ads. You can do those things. You can do things with like... they start getting creative. And so what I told our people, and so I'm giving you guys this as an idea, right? I said, "Okay, now a lot of speakers have promoted it. The next phase is how else we get them involved in this promotion? Like what other things we can do?" I said, "The first thing to do is we should interview them, right?"

Like when a big new movie comes out in Hollywood, what do they do? They don't just go buy Facebook ads that tell people, "Show up." The actors who are in the show, they go on the road and they start going on the talk shows, right? They're on the Today Show, and the Tonight Show, and Good Morning America, telling the story of the movie, why it's going to be so good. They show a little clip of it, and get people excited. Right? It builds anticipation and desire. I said, "We've got to do the same thing with our summit, right? If you want people to come in, we've got to do the same thing. We've got to build the anticipation and desire, and get people fired up."

And so my next assignment for Mike and Mandy was like, "Okay. Go back to all the speakers and say, 'Hey, can we do a Facebook Live on each of your fan pages?'" We can do the Facebook Live. And they said, "Sweet. What do we do on Facebook Live? Do we do another interview?" I'm like, "No, no, no, no. You're not doing an interview. You already did the interview. That's the content. That's what we're giving them. We don't want... The goal here is not to give people more content. It's to create the desire for the content. Right?"

Think about like when you look at the Tonight Show and Robert Downey Jr. is coming to talk about End Game, he's not showing you the movie. He's not giving you the content. He's creating desire for the content. He's going to tell you some funny story about what happened while they were filming it. And he's like, "You guys want to see clip of it?" And he shows a little clip, and people are like, "Oh, I must go see the movie." Right? You call all your friends, like "Cancel all your plans," and you buy your tickets, and you're there. Right? Because it created a desire for the movie. Right?

So all these setups, right, this set up is for single leg, this is the setup for your funnel. They're all things that create desire for the thing that's inside of your funnel. Right? And so I said, "When you do these interviews, they're not long, the short that's three, five minutes max." Right? And maybe 10, if you really want to go along, but I don't think it needs to be that long. Right? And so it's three to five minutes. And the question was like, "Hey, we're here today with so, and so. They're part of our understand.me summit. We're so excited. And a really quick, this guest, they specialize in blah, blah, blah, blah. And do you want to tell us really quick, why you got excited about this?" And the guest comes on like, "Oh yeah. So I got excited about this because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Right? Cool.

"Now inside the summit, obviously you told us all your secrets about how you do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But tell us what's one quick thing that they're going to learn when they have a chance to listen to your presentation." Right? And the person's like, "Okay. Well, we went deep, but one cool thing they're going to learn, they're going to learn how to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Okay? Notice this, the person that said, "Let me walk you through the process." The person said, "In the summit, you're going to learn this thing." Right? So it's creating desire, is telling them what they're going to learn, not how to do the thing. Right? It's just like, "Here's what you're going to learn." So it gives them that little thing. And now they've got the hook.

And then the last thing is for the host to be like, "Okay, now my favorite thing about your interview is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Right? And then everyone... And then they have a call to action. Like, "Okay, if you guys want to hear so-and-so's interview, go to whatever.com." And that's kind of how it was. Right? So I told them, "Go to all speakers and do that." And hopefully we can do it on their fan pages because if it is, then all of their fans are going to see this cool interview with that person pushing them back to their thing. Right?

And so that's kind of the next phase of promotion. Okay? Again, those are all different setups, right, to get somebody in the leg. Now, you start thinking, "Okay. How else how can we amplify this? How else can we boost it?" And so my next thought is something similar to what we did when I did my interview with Tony Robbins, right? When I launched the Expert Secrets book, I was lucky enough to have Tony Robbins interview me on his fan page. So his fans saw the interview, which was crazy. But then when it was done, we called Tony's team, like, "Hey, a ton of people saw the interview. Can we get access to your ads account? And we'll actually pay for the ads to promote this interview to your people." And Tony's people were like, " What's in it for us?" I'm like, "Well, we'll pay for the ads, and you'll get affiliate commission. So there's there's money in it for you, and all this stuff." And they said, "Sure."

So they let us have access to the ads account. We promoted Tony's interview to Tony's people. And that video ended up being seen by over 3.5 million people. Right? Another setup to get more people now to watch the presentation, which gets them then to come to the funnel. Right? So it's just like always taking it to the next step, and the next step, and the next step further.

And so that's the next step for us. It's like, "Okay, now, after we've done the interview, let's see if we can promote that to their following and get more noise out there to create more desire for people to come back into our funnels." Okay. And so again, this is just one little strategy. There's a million of them. I just want you guys thinking differently, right? I want you guys thinking differently, besides just, "Hey, my funnel's done. Now what?" Like... Okay, now it's done. What do they do in Hollywood? They take the show on the road, the actors, the people so if it's your product, you should be going on the road, getting interviewed, doing things like that. If there's people in your product, you should be in their fan pages, and getting... interviewing them on their fan pages to get people to come back.

There's so many things you can do. If you've got success stories, if you've got students who had success with your product, you can go on their fan pages, their personal pages and interview them about their success story. And then use that as an ad. I remember when Kaelin Poulin was building LadyBoss, I remember she told me she was like... There's a segment of the market that loves her. Right? They're like, "I love Kaelin. She's amazing." And they just listen to her. But she's like... Because you know... If you know Kaelin, this is getting back when she was first getting started. She had her nose pierced, tattoos, she kind of had this edgy feel. And so some people loved that, but she was like, "A lot of the moms didn't connect to me very well."

And so she's like, "I understood that. So I was like, how do I open up my, my business to those... I want to attract those people, and I can serve them, but they just don't connect with me as close as you know right now." And so she said, "Well, who of my customers are moms who'd gone through the program and had success?" And she found a couple of them. And she said, "Can I interview you about your success story?" And they said, "Yeah." And so... it's kind of a cool story. She actually went through the Expert Secrets book and took the Epiphany Bridge script questions. And she sent it to all of these women, and said, "Okay, I want you to write your story, answer these eight questions." Right? And took the eight questions from the Expert Secrets book, and filled them out. So like, what's your backstory? What was the... blah, blah, blah.

They filled out the questions. And then Kaelin got on the interview, and interviewed them on Facebook Live, asked them the questions. The women got them emotional, and all of a sudden had Kaelin interviewing a mom who had gone through a program that had success. And then Kaelin interviewing a guy who'd gone through it. Maybe that wasn't true. I don't think she lets guys in. Anyway, but you know what I mean. All these different people in different segments that weren't Kaelin. And then they took those videos of the interviews, and those became ads that targeted that demographic. And all of a sudden that demographic was like, "I know I may not connect with Kaelin, but man, I connect with the person that Kaelin helped, and because of that, now I connect with Kaelin." Right? And it starts opening up this huge, new markets, new doors for you.

So I'm telling you this because I just want you guys thinking differently. Right? There's so many ways to do this. It's just being creative and starting to have fun with this. Okay? There's the art and the science of funnel building, right? The science is like, "This is the funnel structure." Dotcom Secrets is like, "Here's the science. You build the funnel distractions. It's how it works." Expert Secrets gets into the art of like the messaging inside the funnel, and Traffic Secrets is the art of how do you get the ads out there? You know? And in Traffic, there's art and science. There's how do you do the placements, those kind of things. But there's the art of how do I create things? How do I find things that are interesting? How do I get people's attention? And that's where it gets fun.

So, anyhoo, I just wanted to share some of those ideas with you guys, mostly to stimulate your brains today, and get you guys thinking differently. Okay? Because if your funnel's done and it's launched, you're at the end of all your problems, but you're about to find out it's the other end. It's the beginning. And it's time to start learning the traffic side of this game, and start having fun with that as well. So with that said, that yes, I appreciate you all. Have an amazing day, and I'll talk to you again soon. Bye, everybody.

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]]> 841 no What I'm Doing As I Start Over Again... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-im-doing-as-i-start-over-again I'm launching a new company, here is the step-by-step of what I'm doing and why. A couple of months ago, we launched Two Comma Club LIVE, where you can get the virtual experience of all the INSANE goodness from Funnel Hacking Live right in your own home. For the Funnel Hackers who took advantage of our ‘2CCX’ coaching that we offered on the Two Comma Club LIVE event, I also included an opportunity to watch me build an entirely new business from the ground up! A TON of people took us up on that crazy offer BECAUSE they get to see me create this brand new business and launch it IN REAL TIME! You get to watch me take an idea and make it a reality... how it's done, in the order it's done, and everything it takes to make it successful. From ZERO to Profitability! Want to know what this new business is and what's coming next? Then check out this new episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/347-what-i-m-doing-as-i-start-over-again Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0000 What I'm Doing As I Start Over Again... full 347 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I’m launching a new company, here is the step-by-step of what I’m doing and why. I'm launching a new company, here is the step-by-step of what I'm doing and why. A couple of months ago, we launched Two Comma Club LIVE, where you can get the virtual experience of all the INSANE goodness from Funnel Hacking Live right in your own home. For the Funnel Hackers who took advantage of our ‘2CCX’ coaching that we offered on the Two Comma Club LIVE event, I also included an opportunity to watch me build an entirely new business from the ground up! A TON of people took us up on that crazy offer BECAUSE they get to see me create this brand new business and launch it IN REAL TIME! You get to watch me take an idea and make it a reality... how it's done, in the order it's done, and everything it takes to make it successful. From ZERO to Profitability! Want to know what this new business is and what's coming next? Then check out this new episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/347-what-i-m-doing-as-i-start-over-again Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I'm launching a new company, here is the step-by-step of what I'm doing and why.

A couple of months ago, we launched Two Comma Club LIVE, where you can get the virtual experience of all the INSANE goodness from Funnel Hacking Live right in your own home.

For the Funnel Hackers who took advantage of our ‘2CCX’ coaching that we offered on the Two Comma Club LIVE event, I also included an opportunity to watch me build an entirely new business from the ground up!

A TON of people took us up on that crazy offer BECAUSE they get to see me create this brand new business and launch it IN REAL TIME! You get to watch me take an idea and make it a reality... how it's done, in the order it's done, and everything it takes to make it successful. From ZERO to Profitability!

Want to know what this new business is and what's coming next? Then check out this new episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast.

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]]> 842 no STOP STOPPING! (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/stop-stopping-revisited Stop Stopping! Whenever you guys hit a roadblock, you stop. You gotta stop stopping! This is one of the big reasons why many hopeful entrepreneurs don't succeed. It also affects everything else in your life; relationships, health, finances, fitness, you name it. People allow SO many things to STOP their momentum. Procrastination, excuses. food, friends, Facebook, the phone, and on and on. Want to know how you can STOP STOPPING? Then GO and listen to the podcast right now... and don't let anything stop you! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/346-stop-stopping-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0000 STOP STOPPING! (Revisited!) full 346 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Stop Stopping! Whenever you guys hit a roadblock, you stop. You gotta stop stopping! This is one of the big reasons why many hopeful entrepreneurs don't succeed. It also affects everything else in your life; relationships, health, finances, fitness,... Stop Stopping! Whenever you guys hit a roadblock, you stop. You gotta stop stopping! This is one of the big reasons why many hopeful entrepreneurs don't succeed. It also affects everything else in your life; relationships, health, finances, fitness, you name it. People allow SO many things to STOP their momentum. Procrastination, excuses. food, friends, Facebook, the phone, and on and on. Want to know how you can STOP STOPPING? Then GO and listen to the podcast right now... and don't let anything stop you! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/346-stop-stopping-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Stop Stopping! Whenever you guys hit a roadblock, you stop. You gotta stop stopping!

This is one of the big reasons why many hopeful entrepreneurs don't succeed. It also affects everything else in your life; relationships, health, finances, fitness, you name it.

People allow SO many things to STOP their momentum. Procrastination, excuses. food, friends, Facebook, the phone, and on and on.

Want to know how you can STOP STOPPING? Then GO and listen to the podcast right now... and don't let anything stop you!

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]]> 482 no Two Book Hacks, So You Can Read And Retain More https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/two-book-hacks-so-you-can-read-and-retain-more Two cool ways to help you read faster, and actually remember and implement the things that you learned. I was at this mastermind recently and I was talking to a good friend of mine, Alex Hormozi (who used ClickFunnels to help grow his GymLaunch business from Zero to over $50 Million in just a few years), and he said... "Russell, I don't read a lot of books. I read a few books multiple times." And I thought that was so profound. (He's read my book "Expert Secrets" 9 times). So for retention, Alex reads just a few books many times. It gets better! I recently discovered something where you can read books quickly AND retain way more information. And I mean WAAAY more! I've taken a few speed reading courses in my life and nothing seemed to work. But this technique I stumbled upon is AMAZING! And it's so simple... So check out this episode if you want to become a super speed reader AND comprehend more of what you read! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/345-two-book-hacks-so-you-can-read-and-retain-more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Two Book Hacks, So You Can Read And Retain More full 345 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Two cool ways to help you read faster, and actually remember and implement the things that you learned. Two cool ways to help you read faster, and actually remember and implement the things that you learned. I was at this mastermind recently and I was talking to a good friend of mine, Alex Hormozi (who used ClickFunnels to help grow his GymLaunch business from Zero to over $50 Million in just a few years), and he said... "Russell, I don't read a lot of books. I read a few books multiple times." And I thought that was so profound. (He's read my book "Expert Secrets" 9 times). So for retention, Alex reads just a few books many times. It gets better! I recently discovered something where you can read books quickly AND retain way more information. And I mean WAAAY more! I've taken a few speed reading courses in my life and nothing seemed to work. But this technique I stumbled upon is AMAZING! And it's so simple... So check out this episode if you want to become a super speed reader AND comprehend more of what you read! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/345-two-book-hacks-so-you-can-read-and-retain-more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Two cool ways to help you read faster, and actually remember and implement the things that you learned.

I was at this mastermind recently and I was talking to a good friend of mine, Alex Hormozi (who used ClickFunnels to help grow his GymLaunch business from Zero to over $50 Million in just a few years), and he said... "Russell, I don't read a lot of books. I read a few books multiple times." And I thought that was so profound. (He's read my book "Expert Secrets" 9 times). So for retention, Alex reads just a few books many times.

It gets better! I recently discovered something where you can read books quickly AND retain way more information. And I mean WAAAY more! I've taken a few speed reading courses in my life and nothing seemed to work. But this technique I stumbled upon is AMAZING! And it's so simple...

So check out this episode if you want to become a super speed reader AND comprehend more of what you read!

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]]> 656 no The Magic "B" Word... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-magic-b-word The one word that changes EVERYTHING When you understand and execute the magic "B" Word, you can have more success in your life than you ever dreamed of. Not understanding or executing on The Magic "B" Word can have unfavorable consequences. So, what exactly is the 'B' word? It's BELIEF. Want to know how to EASILY adopt an attitude of BELIEF that can catapult you to success faster than you thought possible? Listen to this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast so you can get to where you're going FASTER no matter what stage of growth your business is in. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/344-the-magic-b-word Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0000 The Magic "B" Word... full 344 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The one word that changes EVERYTHING The one word that changes EVERYTHING When you understand and execute the magic "B" Word, you can have more success in your life than you ever dreamed of. Not understanding or executing on The Magic "B" Word can have unfavorable consequences. So, what exactly is the 'B' word? It's BELIEF. Want to know how to EASILY adopt an attitude of BELIEF that can catapult you to success faster than you thought possible? Listen to this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast so you can get to where you're going FASTER no matter what stage of growth your business is in. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/344-the-magic-b-word Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The one word that changes EVERYTHING

When you understand and execute the magic "B" Word, you can have more success in your life than you ever dreamed of. Not understanding or executing on The Magic "B" Word can have unfavorable consequences. So, what exactly is the 'B' word? It's BELIEF.

Want to know how to EASILY adopt an attitude of BELIEF that can catapult you to success faster than you thought possible? Listen to this episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast so you can get to where you're going FASTER no matter what stage of growth your business is in.

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]]> 1465 no Growth Vs Contribution https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/growth-vs-contribution The past week has been INSANE! My good friends Dean Graziosi, Tony Robbins and myself just launched a new offer from our joint "Mastermind.com" venture called "The Build Your Brand Challenge"! I did some high level PRE-TRAINING leading up to the challenge and I focused on what I believe is crucial for success: Transformation and Shift. And one of the biggest transformations and shifts happens when you go from GROWTH to CONTRIBUTION. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/343-growth-vs-contribution Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 09 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Growth Vs Contribution full 343 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The past week has been INSANE! The past week has been INSANE! My good friends Dean Graziosi, Tony Robbins and myself just launched a new offer from our joint "Mastermind.com" venture called "The Build Your Brand Challenge"! I did some high level PRE-TRAINING leading up to the challenge and I focused on what I believe is crucial for success: Transformation and Shift. And one of the biggest transformations and shifts happens when you go from GROWTH to CONTRIBUTION. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/343-growth-vs-contribution Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The past week has been INSANE!

My good friends Dean Graziosi, Tony Robbins and myself just launched a new offer from our joint "Mastermind.com" venture called "The Build Your Brand Challenge"!

I did some high level PRE-TRAINING leading up to the challenge and I focused on what I believe is crucial for success: Transformation and Shift. And one of the biggest transformations and shifts happens when you go from GROWTH to CONTRIBUTION.

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]]> 1451 no 10X Your Income When You Become A Specialist (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/10x-your-income-when-you-become-a-specialist-revisited How to get your business to TAKE OFF! I was a jack of all trades and a master of none. Are you like that? It's like you know a bunch of stuff about a lot of different things, and you're good at all of them, but no one recognizes you for that ONE THING. You don't stand out from the crowd because no one sees you as a SPECIALIST. Want to know how to take the knowledge and expertise you have and quickly become the go-to specialist in your industry? Then you HAVE to listen to this episode of Marketing Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/342-10x-your-income-when-you-become-a-specialist-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0000 10X Your Income When You Become A Specialist (Revisited!) full 342 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to get your business to TAKE OFF! How to get your business to TAKE OFF! I was a jack of all trades and a master of none. Are you like that? It's like you know a bunch of stuff about a lot of different things, and you're good at all of them, but no one recognizes you for that ONE THING. You don't stand out from the crowd because no one sees you as a SPECIALIST. Want to know how to take the knowledge and expertise you have and quickly become the go-to specialist in your industry? Then you HAVE to listen to this episode of Marketing Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/342-10x-your-income-when-you-become-a-specialist-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to get your business to TAKE OFF!

I was a jack of all trades and a master of none. Are you like that?

It's like you know a bunch of stuff about a lot of different things, and you're good at all of them, but no one recognizes you for that ONE THING. You don't stand out from the crowd because no one sees you as a SPECIALIST.

Want to know how to take the knowledge and expertise you have and quickly become the go-to specialist in your industry? Then you HAVE to listen to this episode of Marketing Secrets.

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]]> 905 no How To Paint Your Vivid Vision (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-paint-your-vivid-vision-revisited The POWER of words! I had a chance to take a look at this Penthouse in this amazing building in downtown Boise, Idaho... Just because I thought it would be pretty cool. That's all I wanted to do... just 'see' what this building was all about. So my beautiful wife Collette, and two of my partners, Brent and Dave, met at the penthouse. I walked around the desk and sat down and looked out the window. And then Dave said something that was so simple and so powerful that... in a single moment... Totally changed my mind from, "There's no way I'm buying this office" to: "I'LL TAKE IT! This is where I BELONG! Where do I sign?!" Want to know the simple words that Dave said to me? Then you have to tune in to this crazy-good episode of Marketing Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/341-how-to-paint-your-vivid-vision-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 02 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0000 How To Paint Your Vivid Vision (Revisited!) full 341 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The POWER of words! The POWER of words! I had a chance to take a look at this Penthouse in this amazing building in downtown Boise, Idaho... Just because I thought it would be pretty cool. That's all I wanted to do... just 'see' what this building was all about. So my beautiful wife Collette, and two of my partners, Brent and Dave, met at the penthouse. I walked around the desk and sat down and looked out the window. And then Dave said something that was so simple and so powerful that... in a single moment... Totally changed my mind from, "There's no way I'm buying this office" to: "I'LL TAKE IT! This is where I BELONG! Where do I sign?!" Want to know the simple words that Dave said to me? Then you have to tune in to this crazy-good episode of Marketing Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/341-how-to-paint-your-vivid-vision-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The POWER of words!

I had a chance to take a look at this Penthouse in this amazing building in downtown Boise, Idaho... Just because I thought it would be pretty cool. That's all I wanted to do... just 'see' what this building was all about.

So my beautiful wife Collette, and two of my partners, Brent and Dave, met at the penthouse. I walked around the desk and sat down and looked out the window.

And then Dave said something that was so simple and so powerful that... in a single moment... Totally changed my mind from, "There's no way I'm buying this office" to: "I'LL TAKE IT! This is where I BELONG! Where do I sign?!"

Want to know the simple words that Dave said to me? Then you have to tune in to this crazy-good episode of Marketing Secrets.

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]]> 601 no Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 4 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-4-of-4 How do you handle the haters? When you're the face and voice of your company there's going to come a time when someone's going to talk trash about you. But when you put yourself out there, whether it's on video, a podcast, a blog, a webinar, social media, there's going to come a time when it happens to you. I came to a place where I started to think differently about the bashing and untruths. Want to know how to deal with the "haters?" Want to know how to turn the dirt into a castle? Then don't miss the 4th and FINAL part of my interview with my first mentor Mark Joyner. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/340-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 31 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 4 of 4 full 340 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How do you handle the haters? How do you handle the haters? When you're the face and voice of your company there's going to come a time when someone's going to talk trash about you. But when you put yourself out there, whether it's on video, a podcast, a blog, a webinar, social media, there's going to come a time when it happens to you. I came to a place where I started to think differently about the bashing and untruths. Want to know how to deal with the "haters?" Want to know how to turn the dirt into a castle? Then don't miss the 4th and FINAL part of my interview with my first mentor Mark Joyner. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/340-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How do you handle the haters?

When you're the face and voice of your company there's going to come a time when someone's going to talk trash about you. But when you put yourself out there, whether it's on video, a podcast, a blog, a webinar, social media, there's going to come a time when it happens to you.

I came to a place where I started to think differently about the bashing and untruths.

  • Want to know how to deal with the "haters?"
  • Want to know how to turn the dirt into a castle?

Then don't miss the 4th and FINAL part of my interview with my first mentor Mark Joyner.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/340-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-4-of-4

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]]> 1728 no Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 3 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-3-of-4 How to break through ROADBLOCKS and get to the next level? You hit those exciting milestones in your business... Whether it's $1,000... $5,000... $10,000... $100,000, or even hitting your first $1,000,000 in revenue with your funnel (Two Comma Club)! But for whatever reason, no matter what you do, you just can't seem to get past that first milestone. You get stuck. Something's standing in your way and you just can't figure it out. So how do you drive past that roadblock? How do you get to that next level in your business?This is critical because EVERY entrepreneur, every business, and every Funnel Hacker WILL hit this wall at several different stages as you grow and scale. In Part 3 of this 4-part interview with my mentor Mark Joyner, I share exactly what to do to break the glass ceiling in YOUR business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/339-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 3 of 4 full 339 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to break through ROADBLOCKS and get to the next level? How to break through ROADBLOCKS and get to the next level? You hit those exciting milestones in your business... Whether it's $1,000... $5,000... $10,000... $100,000, or even hitting your first $1,000,000 in revenue with your funnel (Two Comma Club)! But for whatever reason, no matter what you do, you just can't seem to get past that first milestone. You get stuck. Something's standing in your way and you just can't figure it out. So how do you drive past that roadblock? How do you get to that next level in your business?This is critical because EVERY entrepreneur, every business, and every Funnel Hacker WILL hit this wall at several different stages as you grow and scale. In Part 3 of this 4-part interview with my mentor Mark Joyner, I share exactly what to do to break the glass ceiling in YOUR business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/339-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to break through ROADBLOCKS and get to the next level?

You hit those exciting milestones in your business... Whether it's $1,000... $5,000... $10,000... $100,000, or even hitting your first $1,000,000 in revenue with your funnel (Two Comma Club)!

But for whatever reason, no matter what you do, you just can't seem to get past that first milestone. You get stuck. Something's standing in your way and you just can't figure it out.

So how do you drive past that roadblock? How do you get to that next level in your business?This is critical because EVERY entrepreneur, every business, and every Funnel Hacker WILL hit this wall at several different stages as you grow and scale.

In Part 3 of this 4-part interview with my mentor Mark Joyner, I share exactly what to do to break the glass ceiling in YOUR business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/339-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-3-of-4

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]]> 1714 no Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 2 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-2-of-4 Want to know how ClickFunnels became so popular so fast? Or how we generated over $10,000,000 in revenue our very first year, right out of the gate? I'll give you a hint: We didn't sell ClickFunnels as a software. To find out how we were able to grow so fast... and how YOU can grow YOUR company by hacking what we did, listen in to part 2 of my interview with Mark Joyner! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/338-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 2 of 4 full 338 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Want to know how ClickFunnels became so popular so fast? Or how we generated over $10,000,000 in revenue our very first year, right out of the gate? I’ll give you a hint: We didn’t sell ClickFunnels as a software. Want to know how ClickFunnels became so popular so fast? Or how we generated over $10,000,000 in revenue our very first year, right out of the gate? I'll give you a hint: We didn't sell ClickFunnels as a software. To find out how we were able to grow so fast... and how YOU can grow YOUR company by hacking what we did, listen in to part 2 of my interview with Mark Joyner! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/338-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Want to know how ClickFunnels became so popular so fast? Or how we generated over $10,000,000 in revenue our very first year, right out of the gate?

I'll give you a hint: We didn't sell ClickFunnels as a software.

To find out how we were able to grow so fast... and how YOU can grow YOUR company by hacking what we did, listen in to part 2 of my interview with Mark Joyner!

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]]> 1640 no Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 1 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-1-of-4 My first mentor that helped me to finally have success online was Mark Joyner. This is a four part series where I had a chance to be interviewed by Mark about how I've grown a company since I met him all those years ago. Here are a couple of the questions Mark asked Russell on this episode: What are the 3 biggest blunders you made along the way? What are the 3 most strategic and pivotal decisions since founding ClickFunnels? So listen in to find out what Russell had to say! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/337-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Interview With My Original Mentor - Part 1 of 4 full 337 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My first mentor that helped me to finally have success online was Mark Joyner. This is a four part series where I had a chance to be interviewed by Mark about how I’ve grown a company since I met him all those years ago. My first mentor that helped me to finally have success online was Mark Joyner. This is a four part series where I had a chance to be interviewed by Mark about how I've grown a company since I met him all those years ago. Here are a couple of the questions Mark asked Russell on this episode: What are the 3 biggest blunders you made along the way? What are the 3 most strategic and pivotal decisions since founding ClickFunnels? So listen in to find out what Russell had to say! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/337-interview-with-my-original-mentor-part-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My first mentor that helped me to finally have success online was Mark Joyner. This is a four part series where I had a chance to be interviewed by Mark about how I've grown a company since I met him all those years ago.

Here are a couple of the questions Mark asked Russell on this episode:

  • What are the 3 biggest blunders you made along the way?
  • What are the 3 most strategic and pivotal decisions since founding ClickFunnels?

So listen in to find out what Russell had to say!

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]]> 2050 no One Of My Secret Shortcuts To Success https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/one-of-my-secret-shortcuts-to-success This is one of the keys we used to grow our company initially that I totally overlooked and forgot to talk about. On this episode you'll hear Russell talk about a strategy he used a lot when he was getting started in business. You'll hear about: Creating products for someone else and letting them keep 100% of the profit! How he continues using this strategy today (with Tony Robbins!) And how these products/services may seem like failures in the short term, they help build your online presence in the long run. So listen in to find out how you can use this strategy in your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/336-one-of-my-secret-shortcuts-to-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0000 One Of My Secret Shortcuts To Success full 336 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is one of the keys we used to grow our company initially that I totally overlooked and forgot to talk about. This is one of the keys we used to grow our company initially that I totally overlooked and forgot to talk about. On this episode you'll hear Russell talk about a strategy he used a lot when he was getting started in business. You'll hear about: Creating products for someone else and letting them keep 100% of the profit! How he continues using this strategy today (with Tony Robbins!) And how these products/services may seem like failures in the short term, they help build your online presence in the long run. So listen in to find out how you can use this strategy in your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/336-one-of-my-secret-shortcuts-to-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is one of the keys we used to grow our company initially that I totally overlooked and forgot to talk about.

On this episode you'll hear Russell talk about a strategy he used a lot when he was getting started in business. You'll hear about:

  • Creating products for someone else and letting them keep 100% of the profit!
  • How he continues using this strategy today (with Tony Robbins!)
  • And how these products/services may seem like failures in the short term, they help build your online presence in the long run.

So listen in to find out how you can use this strategy in your business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/336-one-of-my-secret-shortcuts-to-success

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]]> 816 no Email Swipe File And A BIG Secret https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/email-swipe-file-and-a-big-secret I've been working on an assignment with the 2CCXers, and I want to share one of my big takeaways that I had last night. I want to share something with you that I've been thinking about a lot lately. We just launched our new Two Comma Club X coaching program a couple months ago, and one of the first things I asked everyone in the program to do (almost 400 coaching students)... Was to TRASH their current email address! WHAAAT!!!! 😲😲😲 I know. Scary, right? Why did I ask them to do this? 2 Reasons... 1. Because it's a DISTRACTION to productivity. 2. Use the email inbox to create a revenue-generating SWIPE file Listen in to find out more! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/335-email-swipe-file-and-a-big-secret Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Email Swipe File And A BIG Secret full 335 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I’ve been working on an assignment with the 2CCXers, and I want to share one of my big takeaways that I had last night. I've been working on an assignment with the 2CCXers, and I want to share one of my big takeaways that I had last night. I want to share something with you that I've been thinking about a lot lately. We just launched our new Two Comma Club X coaching program a couple months ago, and one of the first things I asked everyone in the program to do (almost 400 coaching students)... Was to TRASH their current email address! WHAAAT!!!! 😲😲😲 I know. Scary, right? Why did I ask them to do this? 2 Reasons... 1. Because it's a DISTRACTION to productivity. 2. Use the email inbox to create a revenue-generating SWIPE file Listen in to find out more! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/335-email-swipe-file-and-a-big-secret Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I've been working on an assignment with the 2CCXers, and I want to share one of my big takeaways that I had last night.

I want to share something with you that I've been thinking about a lot lately. We just launched our new Two Comma Club X coaching program a couple months ago, and one of the first things I asked everyone in the program to do (almost 400 coaching students)... Was to TRASH their current email address!

WHAAAT!!!! 😲😲😲 I know. Scary, right? Why did I ask them to do this? 2 Reasons...

1. Because it's a DISTRACTION to productivity. 2. Use the email inbox to create a revenue-generating SWIPE file

Listen in to find out more!

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]]> 710 no I'M A NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLING AUTHOR! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/im-a-new-york-times-best-selling-author Oh my gosh! We finally did it! Thank you so much for supporting me! On this episode Russell talks about the ups and downs of achieving his goal of becoming a New York Times Bestselling author. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode: Find out why Russell's other 2 books didn't make the list, even though he sold enough copies. And find out what it took for Traffic Secrets to finally become a New York Times Bestseller. So listen here to see why Russell is so excited to have reached such a huge milestone. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/334-i-m-a-new-york-times-best-selling-author Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0000 I'M A NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLING AUTHOR! full 334 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Oh my gosh! We finally did it! Thank you so much for supporting me! Oh my gosh! We finally did it! Thank you so much for supporting me! On this episode Russell talks about the ups and downs of achieving his goal of becoming a New York Times Bestselling author. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode: Find out why Russell's other 2 books didn't make the list, even though he sold enough copies. And find out what it took for Traffic Secrets to finally become a New York Times Bestseller. So listen here to see why Russell is so excited to have reached such a huge milestone. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/334-i-m-a-new-york-times-best-selling-author Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Oh my gosh! We finally did it! Thank you so much for supporting me!

On this episode Russell talks about the ups and downs of achieving his goal of becoming a New York Times Bestselling author. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell's other 2 books didn't make the list, even though he sold enough copies.
  • And find out what it took for Traffic Secrets to finally become a New York Times Bestseller.

So listen here to see why Russell is so excited to have reached such a huge milestone.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/334-i-m-a-new-york-times-best-selling-author

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]]> 598 no A Sample Of What My Haters Sent Me This Week... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-sample-of-what-my-haters-sent-me-this-week You want to hear what they say to me? Because they're probably going to say something similar to you. On this episode Russell gives several examples of some of the angry messages he receives from people on social media, and gives some advice about what to do with it. Here are some of the insightful nuggets to look for in this episode: Find out why Russell doesn't give too much thought to the haters. Hear what some of the things are that people get angry at Russell over. And see why the best advice to get through people who say horrible things is to get a thicker skin and learn to ignore them. So listen here to find out how Russell has grown a thick skin and learned to ignore the haters. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/333-a-sample-of-what-my-haters-sent-me-this-week Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0000 A Sample Of What My Haters Sent Me This Week... full 333 Russell Brunson | YAP Media You want to hear what they say to me? Because they’re probably going to say something similar to you. You want to hear what they say to me? Because they're probably going to say something similar to you. On this episode Russell gives several examples of some of the angry messages he receives from people on social media, and gives some advice about what to do with it. Here are some of the insightful nuggets to look for in this episode: Find out why Russell doesn't give too much thought to the haters. Hear what some of the things are that people get angry at Russell over. And see why the best advice to get through people who say horrible things is to get a thicker skin and learn to ignore them. So listen here to find out how Russell has grown a thick skin and learned to ignore the haters. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/333-a-sample-of-what-my-haters-sent-me-this-week Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices You want to hear what they say to me? Because they're probably going to say something similar to you.

On this episode Russell gives several examples of some of the angry messages he receives from people on social media, and gives some advice about what to do with it. Here are some of the insightful nuggets to look for in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell doesn't give too much thought to the haters.
  • Hear what some of the things are that people get angry at Russell over.
  • And see why the best advice to get through people who say horrible things is to get a thicker skin and learn to ignore them.

So listen here to find out how Russell has grown a thick skin and learned to ignore the haters.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/333-a-sample-of-what-my-haters-sent-me-this-week

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]]> 1001 no Identity Shift - Part 2 of 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/identity-shift-part-2-of-2 Kaelin Poulin sharing her presentation from Funnel Hacking Live about identity shift. On this episode we hear from Kaelin Poulin during Funnel Hacking Live talking about identity shifts and getting your customers to be a part of your community. Here are some of the awesome things Kaelin talks about in today's episode: Why it's important to care about your customer. Why you need to have an "I am" statement and manifesto. And why you need to give your customers a cape. So listen here to this awesome presentation from Kaelin Poulin about how to to build your community by giving your customers an identity shift. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/332-identity-shift-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Identity Shift - Part 2 of 2 full 332 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Kaelin Poulin sharing her presentation from Funnel Hacking Live about identity shift. Kaelin Poulin sharing her presentation from Funnel Hacking Live about identity shift. On this episode we hear from Kaelin Poulin during Funnel Hacking Live talking about identity shifts and getting your customers to be a part of your community. Here are some of the awesome things Kaelin talks about in today's episode: Why it's important to care about your customer. Why you need to have an "I am" statement and manifesto. And why you need to give your customers a cape. So listen here to this awesome presentation from Kaelin Poulin about how to to build your community by giving your customers an identity shift. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/332-identity-shift-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Kaelin Poulin sharing her presentation from Funnel Hacking Live about identity shift.

On this episode we hear from Kaelin Poulin during Funnel Hacking Live talking about identity shifts and getting your customers to be a part of your community. Here are some of the awesome things Kaelin talks about in today's episode:

  • Why it's important to care about your customer.
  • Why you need to have an "I am" statement and manifesto.
  • And why you need to give your customers a cape.

So listen here to this awesome presentation from Kaelin Poulin about how to to build your community by giving your customers an identity shift.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/332-identity-shift-part-2-of-2

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]]> 1818 no Identity Shift - Part 1 of 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/identity-shift-part-1-of-2 Russell talking about a recent identity shift and how it's changing his own personal life, and how mastering this concept can help you as well. On this episode Russell talks about identity shifts and how you can use them to become something or someone that you want to be. Here are some of the gems from this episode: Find out how James P. Friel became a drummer and a cyclist by having an identity shift. Find out why wrestling caused so many problems with Russell's weight fluctuations and how he's trying to change that. And see how you can use identity shift to help your customers become a member of your community. So listen here to find out how you can use an identity shift to become what you want to be. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/331-identity-shift-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Jul 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Identity Shift - Part 1 of 2 full 331 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell talking about a recent identity shift and how it’s changing his own personal life, and how mastering this concept can help you as well. Russell talking about a recent identity shift and how it's changing his own personal life, and how mastering this concept can help you as well. On this episode Russell talks about identity shifts and how you can use them to become something or someone that you want to be. Here are some of the gems from this episode: Find out how James P. Friel became a drummer and a cyclist by having an identity shift. Find out why wrestling caused so many problems with Russell's weight fluctuations and how he's trying to change that. And see how you can use identity shift to help your customers become a member of your community. So listen here to find out how you can use an identity shift to become what you want to be. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/331-identity-shift-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell talking about a recent identity shift and how it's changing his own personal life, and how mastering this concept can help you as well.

On this episode Russell talks about identity shifts and how you can use them to become something or someone that you want to be. Here are some of the gems from this episode:

  • Find out how James P. Friel became a drummer and a cyclist by having an identity shift.
  • Find out why wrestling caused so many problems with Russell's weight fluctuations and how he's trying to change that.
  • And see how you can use identity shift to help your customers become a member of your community.

So listen here to find out how you can use an identity shift to become what you want to be.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/331-identity-shift-part-1-of-2

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]]> 971 no My Secret Hack To Increase Your Webinar Conversion Rates https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-secret-hack-to-increase-your-webinar-conversion-rates I almost forgot this secret, but I was reminded tonight and so far it's working flawlessly. On this episode Russell gives some quick advice on how to increase your conversion rates when doing a webinar. Here are some of the amazing things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out why Russell took a "ready, fire, aim" approach to his latest webinar. Find out how he was able to take a live webinar and make it better by adding what he missed after it was over. And hear how he perfected his Clickfunnels webinar over hundreds of live webinars over the first year of its launch. So listen here to hear Russell's advice for perfecting your webinar, and increasing conversion rates. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/330-my-secret-hack-to-increase-your-webinar-conversion-rates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:00:00 -0000 My Secret Hack To Increase Your Webinar Conversion Rates full 330 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I almost forgot this secret, but I was reminded tonight and so far it’s working flawlessly. I almost forgot this secret, but I was reminded tonight and so far it's working flawlessly. On this episode Russell gives some quick advice on how to increase your conversion rates when doing a webinar. Here are some of the amazing things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out why Russell took a "ready, fire, aim" approach to his latest webinar. Find out how he was able to take a live webinar and make it better by adding what he missed after it was over. And hear how he perfected his Clickfunnels webinar over hundreds of live webinars over the first year of its launch. So listen here to hear Russell's advice for perfecting your webinar, and increasing conversion rates. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/330-my-secret-hack-to-increase-your-webinar-conversion-rates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I almost forgot this secret, but I was reminded tonight and so far it's working flawlessly.

On this episode Russell gives some quick advice on how to increase your conversion rates when doing a webinar. Here are some of the amazing things you'll hear in today's episode:

  • Find out why Russell took a "ready, fire, aim" approach to his latest webinar.
  • Find out how he was able to take a live webinar and make it better by adding what he missed after it was over.
  • And hear how he perfected his Clickfunnels webinar over hundreds of live webinars over the first year of its launch.

So listen here to hear Russell's advice for perfecting your webinar, and increasing conversion rates.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/330-my-secret-hack-to-increase-your-webinar-conversion-rates

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]]> 536 no Stop Stepping To Your Vision https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/stop-stepping-to-your-vision Here's an answer to another great question sent in by Rachel Pedersen. On this episode Russell answers a question from Rachel Pedersen about how you create your vision without moving just one stair at a time. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out who told Russell about surpassing everything they thought was possible, so they are trying to enjoy everything in the moment. See how Gene Simmons of Kiss taught Russell to think about things differently to be able to strategically skip some steps. So listen here to find out Russell's advice on creating his vision. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/329-stop-stepping-to-your-vision Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Stop Stepping To Your Vision full 329 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here’s an answer to another great question sent in by Rachel Pedersen. Here's an answer to another great question sent in by Rachel Pedersen. On this episode Russell answers a question from Rachel Pedersen about how you create your vision without moving just one stair at a time. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out who told Russell about surpassing everything they thought was possible, so they are trying to enjoy everything in the moment. See how Gene Simmons of Kiss taught Russell to think about things differently to be able to strategically skip some steps. So listen here to find out Russell's advice on creating his vision. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/329-stop-stepping-to-your-vision Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here's an answer to another great question sent in by Rachel Pedersen.

On this episode Russell answers a question from Rachel Pedersen about how you create your vision without moving just one stair at a time. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out who told Russell about surpassing everything they thought was possible, so they are trying to enjoy everything in the moment.
  • See how Gene Simmons of Kiss taught Russell to think about things differently to be able to strategically skip some steps.

So listen here to find out Russell's advice on creating his vision.

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]]> 568 no Achievement Vs. Fulfillment: Which Do You Want More? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/achievement-vs-fulfillment-which-do-you-want-more They are two conflicting concepts, the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. Can you have them both or does one sacrifice the other? On this episode Russell talks about the difference between the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment and how they are opposites of each other. Here are some of the fascinating things you will hear in today's episode: Find out why the science of achievement is the easy part for Russell, but he struggles with the art of fulfillment. Find out what an event horizon is, and how it's the opposite of routine. And see what project Russell is working on with his wife regarding these things. So listen here to find out how Russell plans on getting the achievement and the fulfillment parts of life. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/328-achievement-vs-fulfillment-which-do-you-want-more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 Jul 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Achievement Vs. Fulfillment: Which Do You Want More? full 328 Russell Brunson | YAP Media They are two conflicting concepts, the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. Can you have them both or does one sacrifice the other? They are two conflicting concepts, the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. Can you have them both or does one sacrifice the other? On this episode Russell talks about the difference between the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment and how they are opposites of each other. Here are some of the fascinating things you will hear in today's episode: Find out why the science of achievement is the easy part for Russell, but he struggles with the art of fulfillment. Find out what an event horizon is, and how it's the opposite of routine. And see what project Russell is working on with his wife regarding these things. So listen here to find out how Russell plans on getting the achievement and the fulfillment parts of life. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/328-achievement-vs-fulfillment-which-do-you-want-more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices They are two conflicting concepts, the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. Can you have them both or does one sacrifice the other?

On this episode Russell talks about the difference between the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment and how they are opposites of each other. Here are some of the fascinating things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Find out why the science of achievement is the easy part for Russell, but he struggles with the art of fulfillment.
  • Find out what an event horizon is, and how it's the opposite of routine.
  • And see what project Russell is working on with his wife regarding these things.

So listen here to find out how Russell plans on getting the achievement and the fulfillment parts of life.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/328-achievement-vs-fulfillment-which-do-you-want-more

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]]> 724 no What Would Happen If The Producers Went On Strike? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-would-happen-if-the-producers-went-on-strike My thoughts after reading the first 2/3 of the book Atlas Shrugged. On this episode Russell talks about reading Atlas Shrugged and how he interprets it in the current economy. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in today's episode: Find out why it's important for the producers to continue to produce. And hear what it means to be a looter, and why they are dangerous to the producers. So listen here to find out how Atlas Shrugged has inspired Russell to continue to be a producer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/327-what-would-happen-if-the-producers-went-on-strike Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 Jul 2020 08:00:00 -0000 What Would Happen If The Producers Went On Strike? full 327 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My thoughts after reading the first 2/3 of the book Atlas Shrugged. My thoughts after reading the first 2/3 of the book Atlas Shrugged. On this episode Russell talks about reading Atlas Shrugged and how he interprets it in the current economy. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in today's episode: Find out why it's important for the producers to continue to produce. And hear what it means to be a looter, and why they are dangerous to the producers. So listen here to find out how Atlas Shrugged has inspired Russell to continue to be a producer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/327-what-would-happen-if-the-producers-went-on-strike Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My thoughts after reading the first 2/3 of the book Atlas Shrugged.

On this episode Russell talks about reading Atlas Shrugged and how he interprets it in the current economy. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Find out why it's important for the producers to continue to produce.
  • And hear what it means to be a looter, and why they are dangerous to the producers.

So listen here to find out how Atlas Shrugged has inspired Russell to continue to be a producer.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/327-what-would-happen-if-the-producers-went-on-strike

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]]> 834 no Entrepreneurial Scars (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/entrepreneurial-scars-revisited Russell is still on vacation, so we're dipping back into the vault to share this awesome episode again. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/326-entrepreneurial-scars-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 Jul 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Entrepreneurial Scars (Revisited!) full 326 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell is still on vacation, so we're dipping back into the vault to share this awesome episode again. Transcript - Russell is still on vacation, so we're dipping back into the vault to share this awesome episode again. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/326-entrepreneurial-scars-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell is still on vacation, so we're dipping back into the vault to share this awesome episode again.

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]]> 922 no Why Entrepreneurs Suck At Vacations (Revisited!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-entrepreneurs-suck-at-vacations-revisited Russell is on vacation this week, so it seems appropriate to replay this episode about entrepreneurs and vacations! Enjoy! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/325-why-entrepreneurs-suck-at-vacations-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 Jul 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Why Entrepreneurs Suck At Vacations (Revisited!) full 325 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell is on vacation this week, so it seems appropriate to replay this episode about entrepreneurs and vacations! Enjoy! Transcript - Russell is on vacation this week, so it seems appropriate to replay this episode about entrepreneurs and vacations! Enjoy! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/325-why-entrepreneurs-suck-at-vacations-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell is on vacation this week, so it seems appropriate to replay this episode about entrepreneurs and vacations! Enjoy!

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]]> 193 no These 3 Questions Will Make You A Leader https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/these-3-questions-will-make-you-a-leader Listen in behind the scenes of a Voxer message that will change everything for you. On this episode you'll get access to a private Voxer message between Russell and Matt Maddix about the three questions he asks people that make him a better leader, father, and husband. Here are the three questions to listen for in today's episode: What can I keep doing? What should I start doing? What should I stop doing? Listen here to find out why these three questions are so important when it comes to making you a better leader, father, husband, and person. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/324-these-3-questions-will-make-you-a-leader Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:00:00 -0000 These 3 Questions Will Make You A Leader full 324 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen in behind the scenes of a Voxer message that will change everything for you. Listen in behind the scenes of a Voxer message that will change everything for you. On this episode you'll get access to a private Voxer message between Russell and Matt Maddix about the three questions he asks people that make him a better leader, father, and husband. Here are the three questions to listen for in today's episode: What can I keep doing? What should I start doing? What should I stop doing? Listen here to find out why these three questions are so important when it comes to making you a better leader, father, husband, and person. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/324-these-3-questions-will-make-you-a-leader Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen in behind the scenes of a Voxer message that will change everything for you.

On this episode you'll get access to a private Voxer message between Russell and Matt Maddix about the three questions he asks people that make him a better leader, father, and husband. Here are the three questions to listen for in today's episode:

  • What can I keep doing?
  • What should I start doing?
  • What should I stop doing?

Listen here to find out why these three questions are so important when it comes to making you a better leader, father, husband, and person.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/324-these-3-questions-will-make-you-a-leader

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]]> 685 no Level 10 Opportunity - Part 2 of 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/level-10-opportunity-part-2-of-2 The exciting conclusion of the presentation I gave at Stephen Larsen's OfferMind event. On this episode you will hear the exciting conclusion to Russell's presentation from OfferMind about level 10 Opportunities. Here are some of the things to listen for in today's episode: Find out how level 10 opportunities came onto Russell's radar. Hear how Russell met Todd and see what they thought their level opportunity was going to be originally. And see how they managed to build Clickfunnels, after Russell had been trying to develop something similar for 10 years prior. So listen here to find out how you can be on the lookout for your own level 10 opportunity. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/323-level-10-opportunity-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 01 Jul 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Level 10 Opportunity - Part 2 of 2 full 323 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The exciting conclusion of the presentation I gave at Stephen Larsen’s OfferMind event. The exciting conclusion of the presentation I gave at Stephen Larsen's OfferMind event. On this episode you will hear the exciting conclusion to Russell's presentation from OfferMind about level 10 Opportunities. Here are some of the things to listen for in today's episode: Find out how level 10 opportunities came onto Russell's radar. Hear how Russell met Todd and see what they thought their level opportunity was going to be originally. And see how they managed to build Clickfunnels, after Russell had been trying to develop something similar for 10 years prior. So listen here to find out how you can be on the lookout for your own level 10 opportunity. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/323-level-10-opportunity-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The exciting conclusion of the presentation I gave at Stephen Larsen's OfferMind event.

On this episode you will hear the exciting conclusion to Russell's presentation from OfferMind about level 10 Opportunities. Here are some of the things to listen for in today's episode:

  • Find out how level 10 opportunities came onto Russell's radar.
  • Hear how Russell met Todd and see what they thought their level opportunity was going to be originally.
  • And see how they managed to build Clickfunnels, after Russell had been trying to develop something similar for 10 years prior.

So listen here to find out how you can be on the lookout for your own level 10 opportunity.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/323-level-10-opportunity-part-2-of-2

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]]> 1055 no Level 10 Opportunity - Part 1 of 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/level-10-opportunity-part-1-of-2 How to find and earn your level 10 opportunity. This is the first half of a presentation I gave at Stephen Larsen's OfferMind event. On today's episode Russell shares a presentation from OfferMind about how he founded Clickfunnels and the journey it took to get there. Here are some of the amazing thing you will hear in part 1 of the presentation: Hear a funny story about potato guns being shipped to a hotel where an event was held, after the event was already over. Find out why even though family and friends were less than enthusiastic about all Russell's new ideas, he kept talking about them. See why it took Russell more than 130 funnels before he created Clickfunnels. So listen here to part 1 of Russell's Level 10 Opportunity presentation from OfferMind. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/322-level-10-opportunity-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Level 10 Opportunity - Part 1 of 2 full 322 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to find and earn your level 10 opportunity. This is the first half of a presentation I gave at Stephen Larsen’s OfferMind event. How to find and earn your level 10 opportunity. This is the first half of a presentation I gave at Stephen Larsen's OfferMind event. On today's episode Russell shares a presentation from OfferMind about how he founded Clickfunnels and the journey it took to get there. Here are some of the amazing thing you will hear in part 1 of the presentation: Hear a funny story about potato guns being shipped to a hotel where an event was held, after the event was already over. Find out why even though family and friends were less than enthusiastic about all Russell's new ideas, he kept talking about them. See why it took Russell more than 130 funnels before he created Clickfunnels. So listen here to part 1 of Russell's Level 10 Opportunity presentation from OfferMind. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/322-level-10-opportunity-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to find and earn your level 10 opportunity. This is the first half of a presentation I gave at Stephen Larsen's OfferMind event.

On today's episode Russell shares a presentation from OfferMind about how he founded Clickfunnels and the journey it took to get there. Here are some of the amazing thing you will hear in part 1 of the presentation:

  • Hear a funny story about potato guns being shipped to a hotel where an event was held, after the event was already over.
  • Find out why even though family and friends were less than enthusiastic about all Russell's new ideas, he kept talking about them.
  • See why it took Russell more than 130 funnels before he created Clickfunnels.

So listen here to part 1 of Russell's Level 10 Opportunity presentation from OfferMind.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/322-level-10-opportunity-part-1-of-2

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]]> 1147 no Want A Shortcut To Success? (Try The "Todd" Hat) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/want-a-shortcut-to-success-try-the-todd-hat How to speed up your process by looking for shortcuts. On this episode Russell talks about being stressed and short on time for getting work done. He talks about how he finds shortcuts in order to get things done, and why he calls it, "Putting his Todd hat on". Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Find out what Russell tends to cut out of his life when he doesn't want to miss a party, but also has tons of work. See what he means when he says he has to put his Todd hat on. And find out what kind of shortcuts he's currently doing to save himself a week's worth of work. So listen here to find out how you can put your Todd hat on to save yourself time when you are super stressed. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/321-want-a-shortcut-to-success-try-the-todd-hat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Want A Shortcut To Success? (Try The "Todd" Hat) full 321 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to speed up your process by looking for shortcuts. How to speed up your process by looking for shortcuts. On this episode Russell talks about being stressed and short on time for getting work done. He talks about how he finds shortcuts in order to get things done, and why he calls it, "Putting his Todd hat on". Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Find out what Russell tends to cut out of his life when he doesn't want to miss a party, but also has tons of work. See what he means when he says he has to put his Todd hat on. And find out what kind of shortcuts he's currently doing to save himself a week's worth of work. So listen here to find out how you can put your Todd hat on to save yourself time when you are super stressed. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/321-want-a-shortcut-to-success-try-the-todd-hat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to speed up your process by looking for shortcuts.

On this episode Russell talks about being stressed and short on time for getting work done. He talks about how he finds shortcuts in order to get things done, and why he calls it, "Putting his Todd hat on". Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:

  • Find out what Russell tends to cut out of his life when he doesn't want to miss a party, but also has tons of work.
  • See what he means when he says he has to put his Todd hat on.
  • And find out what kind of shortcuts he's currently doing to save himself a week's worth of work.

So listen here to find out how you can put your Todd hat on to save yourself time when you are super stressed.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/321-want-a-shortcut-to-success-try-the-todd-hat

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]]> 560 no The Invisible Funnel... IT'S BACK! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-invisible-funnel-its-back Let me show you behind the scenes of the new funnel we're using to sell two comma club live. On this episode Russell talks about using the invisible funnel, which had basically disappeared over the last several years. Here are some of the cool insights to listen for in this episode: Find out what an invisible funnel is and why it's no longer in the Dotcom Secrets book. Hear the story about how Daegan Smith invented the invisible funnel after an accidental dine and dash. And see how Russell is bringing the funnel back to life after years of not using it. So listen here to find out all you need to know about an invisible funnel and how you can use one in your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/320-the-invisible-funnel-it-s-back Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0000 The Invisible Funnel... IT'S BACK! full 320 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Let me show you behind the scenes of the new funnel we’re using to sell two comma club live. Let me show you behind the scenes of the new funnel we're using to sell two comma club live. On this episode Russell talks about using the invisible funnel, which had basically disappeared over the last several years. Here are some of the cool insights to listen for in this episode: Find out what an invisible funnel is and why it's no longer in the Dotcom Secrets book. Hear the story about how Daegan Smith invented the invisible funnel after an accidental dine and dash. And see how Russell is bringing the funnel back to life after years of not using it. So listen here to find out all you need to know about an invisible funnel and how you can use one in your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/320-the-invisible-funnel-it-s-back Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Let me show you behind the scenes of the new funnel we're using to sell two comma club live.

On this episode Russell talks about using the invisible funnel, which had basically disappeared over the last several years. Here are some of the cool insights to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out what an invisible funnel is and why it's no longer in the Dotcom Secrets book.
  • Hear the story about how Daegan Smith invented the invisible funnel after an accidental dine and dash.
  • And see how Russell is bringing the funnel back to life after years of not using it.

So listen here to find out all you need to know about an invisible funnel and how you can use one in your own business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/320-the-invisible-funnel-it-s-back

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]]> 632 no My Dirty Little $ecret That I Never Share... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-dirty-little-ecret-that-i-never-share I probably should share this secret more, because it's the KEY to how I got started... On this episode Russell talks about creating software using scriptlance and how freeing it was. Here are some of the important pieces of advice to look for in this episode: Find out how Russell discovered he didn't have to learn how to code to make software. See what Russell's first software product was and how he saved almost $5000 getting it created. And see what products are still available to help you when it comes to getting started on your business. So listen here to find out how Russell got started and learned that he didn't have to learn how to code to make software. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/319-my-dirty-little-ecret-that-i-never-share Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0000 My Dirty Little $ecret That I Never Share... full 319 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I probably should share this secret more, because it’s the KEY to how I got started… I probably should share this secret more, because it's the KEY to how I got started... On this episode Russell talks about creating software using scriptlance and how freeing it was. Here are some of the important pieces of advice to look for in this episode: Find out how Russell discovered he didn't have to learn how to code to make software. See what Russell's first software product was and how he saved almost $5000 getting it created. And see what products are still available to help you when it comes to getting started on your business. So listen here to find out how Russell got started and learned that he didn't have to learn how to code to make software. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/319-my-dirty-little-ecret-that-i-never-share Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I probably should share this secret more, because it's the KEY to how I got started...

On this episode Russell talks about creating software using scriptlance and how freeing it was. Here are some of the important pieces of advice to look for in this episode:

  • Find out how Russell discovered he didn't have to learn how to code to make software.
  • See what Russell's first software product was and how he saved almost $5000 getting it created.
  • And see what products are still available to help you when it comes to getting started on your business.

So listen here to find out how Russell got started and learned that he didn't have to learn how to code to make software.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/319-my-dirty-little-ecret-that-i-never-share

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]]> 660 no Adding "Over Your Shoulder" To What You Sell... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/adding-over-your-shoulder-to-what-you-sell If you're creating courses, here's one of the secrets to make the course even better. On this episode Russell talks about how he has always been able to teach the strategy of course creation but not really the tactic. Here are some of the awesome stuff to look for in this episode: Find out what "Over the Shoulder" teaching means. Find out why to teach this method Russell had to start a whole new business from scratch. And see what some of the tools he is using to do all of it. So listen here to find out what Russell means when he says he's teaching with an "Over the Shoulder" method. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/318-adding-over-your-shoulder-to-what-you-sell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Adding "Over Your Shoulder" To What You Sell... full 318 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you’re creating courses, here’s one of the secrets to make the course even better. If you're creating courses, here's one of the secrets to make the course even better. On this episode Russell talks about how he has always been able to teach the strategy of course creation but not really the tactic. Here are some of the awesome stuff to look for in this episode: Find out what "Over the Shoulder" teaching means. Find out why to teach this method Russell had to start a whole new business from scratch. And see what some of the tools he is using to do all of it. So listen here to find out what Russell means when he says he's teaching with an "Over the Shoulder" method. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/318-adding-over-your-shoulder-to-what-you-sell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you're creating courses, here's one of the secrets to make the course even better.

On this episode Russell talks about how he has always been able to teach the strategy of course creation but not really the tactic. Here are some of the awesome stuff to look for in this episode:

  • Find out what "Over the Shoulder" teaching means.
  • Find out why to teach this method Russell had to start a whole new business from scratch.
  • And see what some of the tools he is using to do all of it.

So listen here to find out what Russell means when he says he's teaching with an "Over the Shoulder" method.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/318-adding-over-your-shoulder-to-what-you-sell

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]]> 608 no Want REAL Persuasion? Then STOP "Demand Relationship" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/want-real-persuasion-then-stop-demand-relationship How to create true change that actually lasts... On today's episode Russell talks about how our society has always functioned in a "Demand Relationship" and how it will never bring about real change. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out what it means to be in a demand relationship and why it can only work that way for so long. Find out why shaming people into change doesn't work. See why inspiring action is the way to make true change. So listen here to find out how you can inspire true change within your own community. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/317-want-real-persuasion-then-stop-demand-relationship Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Want REAL Persuasion? Then STOP "Demand Relationship" full 317 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to create true change that actually lasts... On today's episode Russell talks about how our society has always functioned in a "Demand Relationship" and how it will never bring about real change. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for... How to create true change that actually lasts... On today's episode Russell talks about how our society has always functioned in a "Demand Relationship" and how it will never bring about real change. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out what it means to be in a demand relationship and why it can only work that way for so long. Find out why shaming people into change doesn't work. See why inspiring action is the way to make true change. So listen here to find out how you can inspire true change within your own community. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/317-want-real-persuasion-then-stop-demand-relationship Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to create true change that actually lasts...

On today's episode Russell talks about how our society has always functioned in a "Demand Relationship" and how it will never bring about real change. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out what it means to be in a demand relationship and why it can only work that way for so long.
  • Find out why shaming people into change doesn't work.
  • See why inspiring action is the way to make true change.

So listen here to find out how you can inspire true change within your own community.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/317-want-real-persuasion-then-stop-demand-relationship

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]]> 913 no The 3 Closes https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-3-closes How to quickly double sales by weaving the 3 invisible closes into every step of your funnel... On this episode that is from a presentation at 2019’s Funnel Hacking Live, Russell talks about the 3 Closes. Here are the 3 closes he explains in today's episode: The Emotional Close The Logical Close And the Urgency and Scarcity Close Find out what each of this closes is, and why Russell uses them in every single funnel. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/316-the-3-closes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0000 The 3 Closes full 316 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to quickly double sales by weaving the 3 invisible closes into every step of your funnel… How to quickly double sales by weaving the 3 invisible closes into every step of your funnel... On this episode that is from a presentation at 2019’s Funnel Hacking Live, Russell talks about the 3 Closes. Here are the 3 closes he explains in today's episode: The Emotional Close The Logical Close And the Urgency and Scarcity Close Find out what each of this closes is, and why Russell uses them in every single funnel. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/316-the-3-closes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to quickly double sales by weaving the 3 invisible closes into every step of your funnel...

On this episode that is from a presentation at 2019’s Funnel Hacking Live, Russell talks about the 3 Closes. Here are the 3 closes he explains in today's episode:

  • The Emotional Close
  • The Logical Close
  • And the Urgency and Scarcity Close

Find out what each of this closes is, and why Russell uses them in every single funnel.

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]]> 1084 no What To Do When You Get Attacked On Social Media https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-to-do-when-you-get-attacked-on-social-media What happened to me this weekend, and what you can learn from it. On this episode Russell talks about the events of the past weekend and how he handled the situation when it got tough and gives some solid advice about the best way to get through it. Here are some of the helpful things you will hear in today's episode: Find out what Russell decided to do instead of fight back. Hear why Russell is okay, but his friends and family had a hard time with the situation. And see why in the end, Russell believes the whole thing turned into a good thing and an important conversation. So listen here to find out how Russell was able to handle the tough situation of when people attack you on social media. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/315-what-to-do-when-you-get-attacked-on-social-media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0000 What To Do When You Get Attacked On Social Media full 315 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What happened to me this weekend, and what you can learn from it. What happened to me this weekend, and what you can learn from it. On this episode Russell talks about the events of the past weekend and how he handled the situation when it got tough and gives some solid advice about the best way to get through it. Here are some of the helpful things you will hear in today's episode: Find out what Russell decided to do instead of fight back. Hear why Russell is okay, but his friends and family had a hard time with the situation. And see why in the end, Russell believes the whole thing turned into a good thing and an important conversation. So listen here to find out how Russell was able to handle the tough situation of when people attack you on social media. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/315-what-to-do-when-you-get-attacked-on-social-media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What happened to me this weekend, and what you can learn from it.

On this episode Russell talks about the events of the past weekend and how he handled the situation when it got tough and gives some solid advice about the best way to get through it. Here are some of the helpful things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Find out what Russell decided to do instead of fight back.
  • Hear why Russell is okay, but his friends and family had a hard time with the situation.
  • And see why in the end, Russell believes the whole thing turned into a good thing and an important conversation.

So listen here to find out how Russell was able to handle the tough situation of when people attack you on social media.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/315-what-to-do-when-you-get-attacked-on-social-media

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]]> 702 no A New Secret Inside of the Value Ladder... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-new-secret-inside-of-the-value-ladder The big "ah-ha" that I've been trying to execute over the last 60 days. On this episode Russell explains the difference between a value ladder and a value maze, and what he's done to simplify his own value ladder over the last few years. Here are some of the informative tidbits to look for in today's episode: Find out how a value maze is different from a value ladder. See Russell's own value ladder and how each step works. See what kind of systems Russell has put in place to assure that each tier in the value ladder continues to work, even without Russell being personally involved. So listen here for all you need to know about the value ladder and how you can make it more simple in your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/314-a-new-secret-inside-of-the-value-ladder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 01 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0000 A New Secret Inside of the Value Ladder... full 314 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The big “ah-ha” that I’ve been trying to execute over the last 60 days. The big "ah-ha" that I've been trying to execute over the last 60 days. On this episode Russell explains the difference between a value ladder and a value maze, and what he's done to simplify his own value ladder over the last few years. Here are some of the informative tidbits to look for in today's episode: Find out how a value maze is different from a value ladder. See Russell's own value ladder and how each step works. See what kind of systems Russell has put in place to assure that each tier in the value ladder continues to work, even without Russell being personally involved. So listen here for all you need to know about the value ladder and how you can make it more simple in your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/314-a-new-secret-inside-of-the-value-ladder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The big "ah-ha" that I've been trying to execute over the last 60 days.

On this episode Russell explains the difference between a value ladder and a value maze, and what he's done to simplify his own value ladder over the last few years. Here are some of the informative tidbits to look for in today's episode:

  • Find out how a value maze is different from a value ladder.
  • See Russell's own value ladder and how each step works.
  • See what kind of systems Russell has put in place to assure that each tier in the value ladder continues to work, even without Russell being personally involved.

So listen here for all you need to know about the value ladder and how you can make it more simple in your business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/314-a-new-secret-inside-of-the-value-ladder

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]]> 870 no The JK5, Instagram And Norah https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-jk5-instagram-and-norah Revisiting one of my favorite principles from the Traffic Secrets book. On this episode Russell talks about posting on Instagram with a method he learned from Jenna Kutcher called the JK5. Here are some of the things you will hear in today's episode: Find out what the JK5 method is. Hear what Russell's "5" are. And find out where you can dive deeper into this concept. So listen here to find out how you can use the JK5 method when posting on social media as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/313-the-jk5-instagram-and-norah Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 May 2020 08:00:00 -0000 The JK5, Instagram And Norah full 313 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Revisiting one of my favorite principles from the Traffic Secrets book. Revisiting one of my favorite principles from the Traffic Secrets book. On this episode Russell talks about posting on Instagram with a method he learned from Jenna Kutcher called the JK5. Here are some of the things you will hear in today's episode: Find out what the JK5 method is. Hear what Russell's "5" are. And find out where you can dive deeper into this concept. So listen here to find out how you can use the JK5 method when posting on social media as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/313-the-jk5-instagram-and-norah Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Revisiting one of my favorite principles from the Traffic Secrets book.

On this episode Russell talks about posting on Instagram with a method he learned from Jenna Kutcher called the JK5. Here are some of the things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Find out what the JK5 method is.
  • Hear what Russell's "5" are.
  • And find out where you can dive deeper into this concept.

So listen here to find out how you can use the JK5 method when posting on social media as well.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/313-the-jk5-instagram-and-norah

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]]> 508 no Hard-Selling vs Soft-Selling and the Invisible Hooks You Probably Missed https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/hard-selling-vs-soft-selling-and-the-invisible-hooks-you-probably-missed People are getting the Traffic Secrets book in the mail today, and if you're not careful, you may miss the greatest marketing lesson of all. On today's episode Russell explains the difference between hard-selling and soft-selling. Here are some of the informative things to look for in this episode: Find out how Russell is almost constantly soft-selling his products and services and why you may not have noticed. See why when you buy from Russell you should buy slowly and pay attention to everything that happens from going through the funnel to receiving things in the mail. And find out what kind of ad Russell has that is converting best right now. So listen here to find out the difference between a hard and soft-sell and how you can use them in your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/312-hard-selling-vs-soft-selling-and-the-invisible-hooks-you-probably-missed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 May 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Hard-Selling vs Soft-Selling and the Invisible Hooks You Probably Missed full 312 Russell Brunson | YAP Media People are getting the Traffic Secrets book in the mail today, and if you’re not careful, you may miss the greatest marketing lesson of all. People are getting the Traffic Secrets book in the mail today, and if you're not careful, you may miss the greatest marketing lesson of all. On today's episode Russell explains the difference between hard-selling and soft-selling. Here are some of the informative things to look for in this episode: Find out how Russell is almost constantly soft-selling his products and services and why you may not have noticed. See why when you buy from Russell you should buy slowly and pay attention to everything that happens from going through the funnel to receiving things in the mail. And find out what kind of ad Russell has that is converting best right now. So listen here to find out the difference between a hard and soft-sell and how you can use them in your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/312-hard-selling-vs-soft-selling-and-the-invisible-hooks-you-probably-missed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices People are getting the Traffic Secrets book in the mail today, and if you're not careful, you may miss the greatest marketing lesson of all.

On today's episode Russell explains the difference between hard-selling and soft-selling. Here are some of the informative things to look for in this episode:

  • Find out how Russell is almost constantly soft-selling his products and services and why you may not have noticed.
  • See why when you buy from Russell you should buy slowly and pay attention to everything that happens from going through the funnel to receiving things in the mail.
  • And find out what kind of ad Russell has that is converting best right now.

So listen here to find out the difference between a hard and soft-sell and how you can use them in your own business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/312-hard-selling-vs-soft-selling-and-the-invisible-hooks-you-probably-missed

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]]> 795 no My New Mr. Miyagi Way Of Teaching... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-new-mr-miyagi-way-of-teaching Of all the ways I've taught things in the past, I think this way might be the best. On today's episode Russell talks about how Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid gave him an epiphany about the way he teaches. Here are some of the things you will learn in this episode: Find out why Mr. Miyagi secretly teaching Daniel-san karate, gave Russell an epiphany. And find out where Russell plans on testing out his theory on this new teaching method and if it will be possible for you to get in on it too. So listen here to find out how Russell and Mr. Miyagi are now going to be on the same level with their teaching styles. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/311-my-new-mr-miyagi-way-of-teaching Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 May 2020 08:00:00 -0000 My New Mr. Miyagi Way Of Teaching... full 311 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Of all the ways I’ve taught things in the past, I think this way might be the best. Of all the ways I've taught things in the past, I think this way might be the best. On today's episode Russell talks about how Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid gave him an epiphany about the way he teaches. Here are some of the things you will learn in this episode: Find out why Mr. Miyagi secretly teaching Daniel-san karate, gave Russell an epiphany. And find out where Russell plans on testing out his theory on this new teaching method and if it will be possible for you to get in on it too. So listen here to find out how Russell and Mr. Miyagi are now going to be on the same level with their teaching styles. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/311-my-new-mr-miyagi-way-of-teaching Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Of all the ways I've taught things in the past, I think this way might be the best.

On today's episode Russell talks about how Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid gave him an epiphany about the way he teaches. Here are some of the things you will learn in this episode:

  • Find out why Mr. Miyagi secretly teaching Daniel-san karate, gave Russell an epiphany.
  • And find out where Russell plans on testing out his theory on this new teaching method and if it will be possible for you to get in on it too.

So listen here to find out how Russell and Mr. Miyagi are now going to be on the same level with their teaching styles.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/311-my-new-mr-miyagi-way-of-teaching

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]]> 819 no A Little Hack To Make Amazing Ads That Convert https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-little-hack-to-make-amazing-ads-that-convert One of my favorite new hooks that you can get created for a couple hundred bucks. On this episode Russell talks about how he used satisfying videos his kids enjoyed to come up with a new ad idea. Here are some of the amazing things to look forward to in today's episode: Find out how looking at satisfying art videos helped Russell come up with a new ad idea. See how you can use cool art as a hook for your ads. And finally see what kind of art Russell went with to make his new ads. So listen here to find out what little hack Russell is now using to come up with amazing hooks for his ads. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/310-a-little-hack-to-make-amazing-ads-that-convert Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 May 2020 08:00:00 -0000 A Little Hack To Make Amazing Ads That Convert full 310 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of my favorite new hooks that you can get created for a couple hundred bucks. One of my favorite new hooks that you can get created for a couple hundred bucks. On this episode Russell talks about how he used satisfying videos his kids enjoyed to come up with a new ad idea. Here are some of the amazing things to look forward to in today's episode: Find out how looking at satisfying art videos helped Russell come up with a new ad idea. See how you can use cool art as a hook for your ads. And finally see what kind of art Russell went with to make his new ads. So listen here to find out what little hack Russell is now using to come up with amazing hooks for his ads. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/310-a-little-hack-to-make-amazing-ads-that-convert Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of my favorite new hooks that you can get created for a couple hundred bucks.

On this episode Russell talks about how he used satisfying videos his kids enjoyed to come up with a new ad idea. Here are some of the amazing things to look forward to in today's episode:

  • Find out how looking at satisfying art videos helped Russell come up with a new ad idea.
  • See how you can use cool art as a hook for your ads.
  • And finally see what kind of art Russell went with to make his new ads.

So listen here to find out what little hack Russell is now using to come up with amazing hooks for his ads.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/310-a-little-hack-to-make-amazing-ads-that-convert

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]]> 512 no My New "Thank You Page" Secret https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-new-thank-you-page-secret This is getting me $4 per lead before we sell them anything. On this episode Russell talks about re-discovering the thing that turned Clickfunnels from a few million dollars a year business into a few million dollars a month business. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in this episode: Find out why asking people registered for a webinar what they were struggling with lead to something Russell had forgotten about.. Find out how a thank you page can help you make back the money you spent on ads before you even begin a webinar. And see why Russell is going to try and take more advantage of this trick and why you should too. So listen here to find out the thank you page secret that helped Russell make money before his webinar even began. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/309-my-new-thank-you-page-secret Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 May 2020 08:00:00 -0000 My New "Thank You Page" Secret full 309 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is getting me $4 per lead before we sell them anything. This is getting me $4 per lead before we sell them anything. On this episode Russell talks about re-discovering the thing that turned Clickfunnels from a few million dollars a year business into a few million dollars a month business. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in this episode: Find out why asking people registered for a webinar what they were struggling with lead to something Russell had forgotten about.. Find out how a thank you page can help you make back the money you spent on ads before you even begin a webinar. And see why Russell is going to try and take more advantage of this trick and why you should too. So listen here to find out the thank you page secret that helped Russell make money before his webinar even began. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/309-my-new-thank-you-page-secret Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is getting me $4 per lead before we sell them anything.

On this episode Russell talks about re-discovering the thing that turned Clickfunnels from a few million dollars a year business into a few million dollars a month business. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out why asking people registered for a webinar what they were struggling with lead to something Russell had forgotten about..
  • Find out how a thank you page can help you make back the money you spent on ads before you even begin a webinar.
  • And see why Russell is going to try and take more advantage of this trick and why you should too.

So listen here to find out the thank you page secret that helped Russell make money before his webinar even began.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/309-my-new-thank-you-page-secret

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]]> 496 no The Secret I Missed For Almost 2 Decades https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-i-missed-for-almost-2-decades I can't believe that I missed this key as it's changing everything for us now. On today's episode Russell talks about shaking things up at Clickfunnels to get systems in place and make keeping up with everything they've gotten running, easier. Here are some of the amazing thing to listen for in this episode: Find out why Russell decided to make big changes in the company to make sure they could keep up with everything. See what kind of things they are focusing on now. And see why this will make it so Russell only has to work 3 Friday's a month for one hour each. So listen here to find out how Russell changed things at Clickfunnels to make everything work more smoothly. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/308-the-secret-i-missed-for-almost-2-decades Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 May 2020 08:00:00 -0000 The Secret I Missed For Almost 2 Decades full 308 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I can’t believe that I missed this key as it’s changing everything for us now. I can't believe that I missed this key as it's changing everything for us now. On today's episode Russell talks about shaking things up at Clickfunnels to get systems in place and make keeping up with everything they've gotten running, easier. Here are some of the amazing thing to listen for in this episode: Find out why Russell decided to make big changes in the company to make sure they could keep up with everything. See what kind of things they are focusing on now. And see why this will make it so Russell only has to work 3 Friday's a month for one hour each. So listen here to find out how Russell changed things at Clickfunnels to make everything work more smoothly. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/308-the-secret-i-missed-for-almost-2-decades Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I can't believe that I missed this key as it's changing everything for us now.

On today's episode Russell talks about shaking things up at Clickfunnels to get systems in place and make keeping up with everything they've gotten running, easier. Here are some of the amazing thing to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell decided to make big changes in the company to make sure they could keep up with everything.
  • See what kind of things they are focusing on now.
  • And see why this will make it so Russell only has to work 3 Friday's a month for one hour each.

So listen here to find out how Russell changed things at Clickfunnels to make everything work more smoothly.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/308-the-secret-i-missed-for-almost-2-decades

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]]> 786 no This Backwards "Webinar" Business Model is CRUSHING IT... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/this-backwards-webinar-business-model-is-crushing-it Don't have your own webinar yet? Try this new model... On this episode Russell talks about a webinar business model that can help you build your list before you are ready to do a webinar for your own product or service. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Find out how hosting webinars for others can help you grow your list. See how hosting webinars will come back around for you when you finally have a webinar of your own. And find out if Russell still practices what he preaches when it comes to webinars. So listen here to find out what this new backwards webinar business model is and how you can use it to grow your list. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/307-this-backwards-webinar-business-model-is-crushing-it Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 May 2020 08:00:00 -0000 This Backwards "Webinar" Business Model is CRUSHING IT... full 307 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Don’t have your own webinar yet? Try this new model… Don't have your own webinar yet? Try this new model... On this episode Russell talks about a webinar business model that can help you build your list before you are ready to do a webinar for your own product or service. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Find out how hosting webinars for others can help you grow your list. See how hosting webinars will come back around for you when you finally have a webinar of your own. And find out if Russell still practices what he preaches when it comes to webinars. So listen here to find out what this new backwards webinar business model is and how you can use it to grow your list. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/307-this-backwards-webinar-business-model-is-crushing-it Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Don't have your own webinar yet? Try this new model...

On this episode Russell talks about a webinar business model that can help you build your list before you are ready to do a webinar for your own product or service. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:

  • Find out how hosting webinars for others can help you grow your list.
  • See how hosting webinars will come back around for you when you finally have a webinar of your own.
  • And find out if Russell still practices what he preaches when it comes to webinars.

So listen here to find out what this new backwards webinar business model is and how you can use it to grow your list.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/307-this-backwards-webinar-business-model-is-crushing-it

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]]> 768 no 30 Days Before The Quarantine... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/30-days-before-the-quarantine What would you have told yourself 30 days before the quarantine to prepare? Do that now! On this episode Russell talks about the possibility that the country may slowly open back up after nearly 2 months of quarantine. Here is some awesome advice to help you prepare if it happens again. Find out what Russell believes will happen once the country opens back up from quarantine. Ask yourself what you could have done differently if you knew 30 days in advance that everyone would be put under strict stay at home orders. And hear Russell's advice on what you should do to prepare for if we get back into quarantine in the coming months. So listen here to see why you should be asking yourself what would have been different if you knew you'd be quarantined 30 days in advance. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/306-30-days-before-the-quarantine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0000 30 Days Before The Quarantine... full 306 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What would you have told yourself 30 days before the quarantine to prepare? Do that now! What would you have told yourself 30 days before the quarantine to prepare? Do that now! On this episode Russell talks about the possibility that the country may slowly open back up after nearly 2 months of quarantine. Here is some awesome advice to help you prepare if it happens again. Find out what Russell believes will happen once the country opens back up from quarantine. Ask yourself what you could have done differently if you knew 30 days in advance that everyone would be put under strict stay at home orders. And hear Russell's advice on what you should do to prepare for if we get back into quarantine in the coming months. So listen here to see why you should be asking yourself what would have been different if you knew you'd be quarantined 30 days in advance. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/306-30-days-before-the-quarantine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What would you have told yourself 30 days before the quarantine to prepare? Do that now!

On this episode Russell talks about the possibility that the country may slowly open back up after nearly 2 months of quarantine. Here is some awesome advice to help you prepare if it happens again.

  • Find out what Russell believes will happen once the country opens back up from quarantine.
  • Ask yourself what you could have done differently if you knew 30 days in advance that everyone would be put under strict stay at home orders.
  • And hear Russell's advice on what you should do to prepare for if we get back into quarantine in the coming months.

So listen here to see why you should be asking yourself what would have been different if you knew you'd be quarantined 30 days in advance.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/306-30-days-before-the-quarantine

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]]> 562 no The #1 Secret To How Rachel Hollis Sold 4+ Million Copies Of Her Book https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-1-secret-to-how-rachel-hollis-sold-4-million-copies-of-her-book I recorded this podcast after getting off a call with Rachel and I asked her my #1 question... On this episode Russell talks about a call he had with Rachel Hollis and asking her how she sold 4.3 million copies of her book without paid ads. Here are some other awesome things to look for in today's episode: Find out the difference between a war time and peace time general. Find out how Dean Graziosi changed his ads and products to go better with the world we're experiencing now. And find out Rachel Hollis' strategy for selling so many books. So listen here to find out the answers to those questions and how you can take advantage of the times we're living. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/305-the-1-secret-to-how-rachel-hollis-sold-4-million-copies-of-her-book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0000 The #1 Secret To How Rachel Hollis Sold 4+ Million Copies Of Her Book full 305 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I recorded this podcast after getting off a call with Rachel and I asked her my #1 question… I recorded this podcast after getting off a call with Rachel and I asked her my #1 question... On this episode Russell talks about a call he had with Rachel Hollis and asking her how she sold 4.3 million copies of her book without paid ads. Here are some other awesome things to look for in today's episode: Find out the difference between a war time and peace time general. Find out how Dean Graziosi changed his ads and products to go better with the world we're experiencing now. And find out Rachel Hollis' strategy for selling so many books. So listen here to find out the answers to those questions and how you can take advantage of the times we're living. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/305-the-1-secret-to-how-rachel-hollis-sold-4-million-copies-of-her-book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I recorded this podcast after getting off a call with Rachel and I asked her my #1 question...

On this episode Russell talks about a call he had with Rachel Hollis and asking her how she sold 4.3 million copies of her book without paid ads. Here are some other awesome things to look for in today's episode:

  • Find out the difference between a war time and peace time general.
  • Find out how Dean Graziosi changed his ads and products to go better with the world we're experiencing now.
  • And find out Rachel Hollis' strategy for selling so many books.

So listen here to find out the answers to those questions and how you can take advantage of the times we're living.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/305-the-1-secret-to-how-rachel-hollis-sold-4-million-copies-of-her-book

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]]> 560 no Writing The Clickfunnels Startup Story... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/writing-the-clickfunnels-startup-story My thoughts as I start work on my new book. On this episode Russell talks about the process he is currently in to write his Clickfunnels startup story. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out how long this book idea has been in the works, and what kinds of things they are doing to gather information. Hear a timeline of all the main events that will documented in the new book. And find out why Russell believes this book is his way of leaving a legacy on earth when he's no longer a part of it. So listen here to this awesome timeline of the Clickfunnels startup story. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/304-writing-the-clickfunnels-startup-story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Writing The Clickfunnels Startup Story... full 304 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My thoughts as I start work on my new book. My thoughts as I start work on my new book. On this episode Russell talks about the process he is currently in to write his Clickfunnels startup story. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out how long this book idea has been in the works, and what kinds of things they are doing to gather information. Hear a timeline of all the main events that will documented in the new book. And find out why Russell believes this book is his way of leaving a legacy on earth when he's no longer a part of it. So listen here to this awesome timeline of the Clickfunnels startup story. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/304-writing-the-clickfunnels-startup-story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My thoughts as I start work on my new book.

On this episode Russell talks about the process he is currently in to write his Clickfunnels startup story. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in today's episode:

  • Find out how long this book idea has been in the works, and what kinds of things they are doing to gather information.
  • Hear a timeline of all the main events that will documented in the new book.
  • And find out why Russell believes this book is his way of leaving a legacy on earth when he's no longer a part of it.

So listen here to this awesome timeline of the Clickfunnels startup story.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/304-writing-the-clickfunnels-startup-story

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]]> 811 no Gathering Your People For Under A Dollar? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/gathering-your-people-for-under-a-dollar What we're seeing in real time, that's allowing us to gather our people for under a dollar. On this episode Russell talks about the opportunity that has presented itself during the Coronavirus and why you should try to take advantage of it. Here are some of the informative things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out why the prices for advertising on Facebook have gone down. Find out the record number of people that opted in for a webinar Russell did this week. And find out why Russell his job is to gather the gatherers. So listen here to find out how Russell was able to get so many people registered for a webinar at a crazy discount. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/303-gathering-your-people-for-under-a-dollar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Gathering Your People For Under A Dollar? full 303 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What we’re seeing in real time, that’s allowing us to gather our people for under a dollar. What we're seeing in real time, that's allowing us to gather our people for under a dollar. On this episode Russell talks about the opportunity that has presented itself during the Coronavirus and why you should try to take advantage of it. Here are some of the informative things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out why the prices for advertising on Facebook have gone down. Find out the record number of people that opted in for a webinar Russell did this week. And find out why Russell his job is to gather the gatherers. So listen here to find out how Russell was able to get so many people registered for a webinar at a crazy discount. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/303-gathering-your-people-for-under-a-dollar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What we're seeing in real time, that's allowing us to gather our people for under a dollar.

On this episode Russell talks about the opportunity that has presented itself during the Coronavirus and why you should try to take advantage of it. Here are some of the informative things you'll hear in today's episode:

  • Find out why the prices for advertising on Facebook have gone down.
  • Find out the record number of people that opted in for a webinar Russell did this week.
  • And find out why Russell his job is to gather the gatherers.

So listen here to find out how Russell was able to get so many people registered for a webinar at a crazy discount.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/303-gathering-your-people-for-under-a-dollar

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]]> 641 no Some STORIES From Inside Of Traffic Secrets... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/some-stories-from-inside-of-traffic-secrets I've done over 50 interviews to promote the book, but this one was one of my favorites, I hope you love it! On this episode Russell is interviewed by fellow entrepreneur, Pete Vargas about how to get traffic. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this special episode: Find out the difference between buying traffic, and working for traffic. See how getting people to your product or service works the same way Hollywood gets you to watch movies. See why figuring out your dream 100 is the key to getting lots of traffic. And find out why having a platform is the best thing you can do. So listen here to hear Pete Vargas interview Russell about some of biggest secrets to getting traffic. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/302-some-stories-from-inside-of-traffic-secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Some STORIES From Inside Of Traffic Secrets... full 302 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I’ve done over 50 interviews to promote the book, but this one was one of my favorites, I hope you love it! I've done over 50 interviews to promote the book, but this one was one of my favorites, I hope you love it! On this episode Russell is interviewed by fellow entrepreneur, Pete Vargas about how to get traffic. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this special episode: Find out the difference between buying traffic, and working for traffic. See how getting people to your product or service works the same way Hollywood gets you to watch movies. See why figuring out your dream 100 is the key to getting lots of traffic. And find out why having a platform is the best thing you can do. So listen here to hear Pete Vargas interview Russell about some of biggest secrets to getting traffic. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/302-some-stories-from-inside-of-traffic-secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I've done over 50 interviews to promote the book, but this one was one of my favorites, I hope you love it!

On this episode Russell is interviewed by fellow entrepreneur, Pete Vargas about how to get traffic. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this special episode:

  • Find out the difference between buying traffic, and working for traffic.
  • See how getting people to your product or service works the same way Hollywood gets you to watch movies.
  • See why figuring out your dream 100 is the key to getting lots of traffic.
  • And find out why having a platform is the best thing you can do.

So listen here to hear Pete Vargas interview Russell about some of biggest secrets to getting traffic.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/302-some-stories-from-inside-of-traffic-secrets

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]]> 2397 no A New Way To Play The Game https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-new-way-to-play-the-game Did your business get demolished because of the Corona slap? If so, here are the new rules of how to play and how to win. On this episode Russell talks about the game of being an entrepreneur and how part of playing is adapting to when the rules change. Here are some of the awesome tips you will hear in today's episode: Find out why in the 18 years Russell has been involved in online marketing, he has had to change the way he plays the game so many times. And see why if you do not adapt to the changes, and continue to fight for the rules to go back to the way they were, you won't make it in this business. So listen here to find out how you can go with the flow, and learn to play the game when the rules are changed. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/301-a-new-way-to-play-the-game Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0000 A New Way To Play The Game full 301 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Did your business get demolished because of the Corona slap? If so, here are the new rules of how to play and how to win. Did your business get demolished because of the Corona slap? If so, here are the new rules of how to play and how to win. On this episode Russell talks about the game of being an entrepreneur and how part of playing is adapting to when the rules change. Here are some of the awesome tips you will hear in today's episode: Find out why in the 18 years Russell has been involved in online marketing, he has had to change the way he plays the game so many times. And see why if you do not adapt to the changes, and continue to fight for the rules to go back to the way they were, you won't make it in this business. So listen here to find out how you can go with the flow, and learn to play the game when the rules are changed. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/301-a-new-way-to-play-the-game Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Did your business get demolished because of the Corona slap? If so, here are the new rules of how to play and how to win.

On this episode Russell talks about the game of being an entrepreneur and how part of playing is adapting to when the rules change. Here are some of the awesome tips you will hear in today's episode:

  • Find out why in the 18 years Russell has been involved in online marketing, he has had to change the way he plays the game so many times.
  • And see why if you do not adapt to the changes, and continue to fight for the rules to go back to the way they were, you won't make it in this business.

So listen here to find out how you can go with the flow, and learn to play the game when the rules are changed.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/301-a-new-way-to-play-the-game

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]]> 582 no Check Out My New Podcast "Traffic Secrets"! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/check-out-my-new-podcast-traffic-secrets I just launched the new Traffic Secrets podcast. If you want a sneak peek, check out today's episode! You can subscribe to my new Traffic Secrets podcast here! On this episode, Russell walks you through the introduction of his new Traffic Secrets book where you'll learn... The 2 reasons that Russell's business survived previous market crashes. Why evergreen traffic strategies are so important... especially right now. And listen until the end to find out where you can get 4 FREE FunnelFlix videos! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/300-check-out-my-new-podcast-traffic-secrets Traffic Secrets Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/traffic-secrets/id1504721836 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Check Out My New Podcast "Traffic Secrets"! full 300 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I just launched the new Traffic Secrets podcast. If you want a sneak peek, check out today’s episode! I just launched the new Traffic Secrets podcast. If you want a sneak peek, check out today's episode! You can subscribe to my new Traffic Secrets podcast here! On this episode, Russell walks you through the introduction of his new Traffic Secrets book where you'll learn... The 2 reasons that Russell's business survived previous market crashes. Why evergreen traffic strategies are so important... especially right now. And listen until the end to find out where you can get 4 FREE FunnelFlix videos! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/300-check-out-my-new-podcast-traffic-secrets Traffic Secrets Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/traffic-secrets/id1504721836 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I just launched the new Traffic Secrets podcast. If you want a sneak peek, check out today's episode! You can subscribe to my new Traffic Secrets podcast here!

On this episode, Russell walks you through the introduction of his new Traffic Secrets book where you'll learn...

  • The 2 reasons that Russell's business survived previous market crashes.
  • Why evergreen traffic strategies are so important... especially right now.
  • And listen until the end to find out where you can get 4 FREE FunnelFlix videos!

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/300-check-out-my-new-podcast-traffic-secrets

Traffic Secrets Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/traffic-secrets/id1504721836

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]]> 1450 no How Many Interviews Did You Do Today? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-many-interviews-did-you-do-today An interesting question that'll change how you get traffic into your funnels. On this episode Russell talks about what you need to do besides publishing every single day. Here are some of the things you will hear about on today's episode: Find out why you also need to be working your way into getting more traffic. Hear some of the things that Russell is doing that has contributed to at least 1/3 of his book sales. And listen to a story to help illustrate how often you need to be doing things in order to gain traffic. So listen here to find out how you can work your way into getting more traffic, so you can serve more people. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/299-how-many-interviews-did-you-do-today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0000 How Many Interviews Did You Do Today? full 299 Russell Brunson | YAP Media An interesting question that’ll change how you get traffic into your funnels. An interesting question that'll change how you get traffic into your funnels. On this episode Russell talks about what you need to do besides publishing every single day. Here are some of the things you will hear about on today's episode: Find out why you also need to be working your way into getting more traffic. Hear some of the things that Russell is doing that has contributed to at least 1/3 of his book sales. And listen to a story to help illustrate how often you need to be doing things in order to gain traffic. So listen here to find out how you can work your way into getting more traffic, so you can serve more people. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/299-how-many-interviews-did-you-do-today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices An interesting question that'll change how you get traffic into your funnels.

On this episode Russell talks about what you need to do besides publishing every single day. Here are some of the things you will hear about on today's episode:

  • Find out why you also need to be working your way into getting more traffic.
  • Hear some of the things that Russell is doing that has contributed to at least 1/3 of his book sales.
  • And listen to a story to help illustrate how often you need to be doing things in order to gain traffic.

So listen here to find out how you can work your way into getting more traffic, so you can serve more people.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/299-how-many-interviews-did-you-do-today

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]]> 801 no The Traffic Secret I'm Using Right Now... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-traffic-secret-im-using-right-now I hope you're watching what I'm doing and not just reading about how I'm doing it. On this episode Russell talks about how he practices what he preaches when it comes to traffic when marketing his Traffic Secrets book. Here are some of the awesome tidbits you will hear today: Find out what the three types of traffic are. Find out how Russell uses each of the types of traffic to sell more copies of his book. And find out what Russell would do if he decided to start a new business from scratch today. So listen here to find out what kinds of traffic Russell is using to sell more Traffic Secrets books. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/298-the-traffic-secret-i-m-using-right-now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 01 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0000 The Traffic Secret I'm Using Right Now... full 298 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I hope you’re watching what I’m doing and not just reading about how I’m doing it. I hope you're watching what I'm doing and not just reading about how I'm doing it. On this episode Russell talks about how he practices what he preaches when it comes to traffic when marketing his Traffic Secrets book. Here are some of the awesome tidbits you will hear today: Find out what the three types of traffic are. Find out how Russell uses each of the types of traffic to sell more copies of his book. And find out what Russell would do if he decided to start a new business from scratch today. So listen here to find out what kinds of traffic Russell is using to sell more Traffic Secrets books. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/298-the-traffic-secret-i-m-using-right-now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I hope you're watching what I'm doing and not just reading about how I'm doing it.

On this episode Russell talks about how he practices what he preaches when it comes to traffic when marketing his Traffic Secrets book. Here are some of the awesome tidbits you will hear today:

  • Find out what the three types of traffic are.
  • Find out how Russell uses each of the types of traffic to sell more copies of his book.
  • And find out what Russell would do if he decided to start a new business from scratch today.

So listen here to find out what kinds of traffic Russell is using to sell more Traffic Secrets books.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/298-the-traffic-secret-i-m-using-right-now

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]]> 554 no How Do We Live in a Corona Virus Age? And Some Q&A!!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-do-we-live-in-a-corona-virus-age-and-some-qa Fireside chat with the ClickFunnels / Funnel Hacker community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0000 How Do We Live in a Corona Virus Age? And Some Q&A!!! full 297 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Fireside chat with the ClickFunnels / Funnel Hacker community. Fireside chat with the ClickFunnels / Funnel Hacker community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fireside chat with the ClickFunnels / Funnel Hacker community.

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]]> 3454 no The Shift: Moving Away From Pain https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-shift-moving-away-from-pain With the economic shift, we have to shift how we're marketing or we are going to lose our customers and potentially our businesses. On this episode Russell talks about how when uncertainty in the world happens you need to make a shift in the way you market and offer your customers a life preserver. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode: Find out what kind of shift you have to make to sell to a market consumed with fear and uncertainty. See why Dean Graziosi was the last real estate guy standing after the last market crash. And see how you can market with a life preserver and better get through to your audience. So listen here to find out what shift you need to make in these uncertain times. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/296-the-shift-moving-away-from-pain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0000 The Shift: Moving Away From Pain full 296 Russell Brunson | YAP Media With the economic shift, we have to shift how we’re marketing or we are going to lose our customers and potentially our businesses. With the economic shift, we have to shift how we're marketing or we are going to lose our customers and potentially our businesses. On this episode Russell talks about how when uncertainty in the world happens you need to make a shift in the way you market and offer your customers a life preserver. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode: Find out what kind of shift you have to make to sell to a market consumed with fear and uncertainty. See why Dean Graziosi was the last real estate guy standing after the last market crash. And see how you can market with a life preserver and better get through to your audience. So listen here to find out what shift you need to make in these uncertain times. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/296-the-shift-moving-away-from-pain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices With the economic shift, we have to shift how we're marketing or we are going to lose our customers and potentially our businesses.

On this episode Russell talks about how when uncertainty in the world happens you need to make a shift in the way you market and offer your customers a life preserver. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out what kind of shift you have to make to sell to a market consumed with fear and uncertainty.
  • See why Dean Graziosi was the last real estate guy standing after the last market crash.
  • And see how you can market with a life preserver and better get through to your audience.

So listen here to find out what shift you need to make in these uncertain times.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/296-the-shift-moving-away-from-pain

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]]> 585 no How the Mañana Principle Will Prepare You For Tomorrow... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-the-maana-principle-will-prepare-you-for-tomorrow What you should be doing now... On this episode Russell talks about what the manana principle is and how you can use it to your advantage during this unprecedented times. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Find out how Russell relates the movie, Forest Gump with the times of uncertainty that we are currently living in. Find out what the manana principle is, and while it's usually a bad thing, you can use it to help you. And find out how planting seeds today will help you prepare for the season of harvest. So listen here to find out how you can use the manana principle to come out of the other side of the Coronavirus better. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/295-how-the-manana-principle-will-prepare-you-for-tomorrow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0000 How the Mañana Principle Will Prepare You For Tomorrow... full 295 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What you should be doing now… What you should be doing now... On this episode Russell talks about what the manana principle is and how you can use it to your advantage during this unprecedented times. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Find out how Russell relates the movie, Forest Gump with the times of uncertainty that we are currently living in. Find out what the manana principle is, and while it's usually a bad thing, you can use it to help you. And find out how planting seeds today will help you prepare for the season of harvest. So listen here to find out how you can use the manana principle to come out of the other side of the Coronavirus better. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/295-how-the-manana-principle-will-prepare-you-for-tomorrow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What you should be doing now...

On this episode Russell talks about what the manana principle is and how you can use it to your advantage during this unprecedented times. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode:

  • Find out how Russell relates the movie, Forest Gump with the times of uncertainty that we are currently living in.
  • Find out what the manana principle is, and while it's usually a bad thing, you can use it to help you.
  • And find out how planting seeds today will help you prepare for the season of harvest.

So listen here to find out how you can use the manana principle to come out of the other side of the Coronavirus better.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/295-how-the-manana-principle-will-prepare-you-for-tomorrow

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]]> 624 no Special Guest Reveals Top 5 YouTube Traffic Secrets https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/special-guest-reveals-top-5-youtube-traffic-secrets On this special episode with Russell's first ever guest interview, we hear from Joe Marfoglio about the best things to do to grow your YouTube channel. Here are some of the informative things you'll hear in this episode: Find out why thumbnails are so important to how many people watch your videos. Hear why Russell's long intro on Funnel Hacker TV cost him views. And find out what tool you can use to not only track your own videos, but also the videos of your competitors. So listen here to find out Joe Marfoglio's best tips to grow viewership on your YouTube channel. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/294-special-guest-reveals-top-5-youtube-traffic-secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 18 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Special Guest Reveals Top 5 YouTube Traffic Secrets full 294 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this special episode with Russell’s first ever guest interview, we hear from Joe Marfoglio about the best things to do to grow your YouTube channel. On this special episode with Russell's first ever guest interview, we hear from Joe Marfoglio about the best things to do to grow your YouTube channel. Here are some of the informative things you'll hear in this episode: Find out why thumbnails are so important to how many people watch your videos. Hear why Russell's long intro on Funnel Hacker TV cost him views. And find out what tool you can use to not only track your own videos, but also the videos of your competitors. So listen here to find out Joe Marfoglio's best tips to grow viewership on your YouTube channel. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/294-special-guest-reveals-top-5-youtube-traffic-secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this special episode with Russell's first ever guest interview, we hear from Joe Marfoglio about the best things to do to grow your YouTube channel. Here are some of the informative things you'll hear in this episode:

  • Find out why thumbnails are so important to how many people watch your videos.
  • Hear why Russell's long intro on Funnel Hacker TV cost him views.
  • And find out what tool you can use to not only track your own videos, but also the videos of your competitors.

So listen here to find out Joe Marfoglio's best tips to grow viewership on your YouTube channel.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/294-special-guest-reveals-top-5-youtube-traffic-secrets

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]]> 1049 no Behind-The-Scenes of the Traffic Secrets Book Launch https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/behind-the-scenes-of-the-traffic-secrets-book-launch On this episode Russell gives us a behind the scenes glimpse of what is going into the Traffic Secrets book launch. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in today's episode: Find out how long this launch has been in progress and what the steps have been. Hear about the different phases of launching something, and see what phase Russell is in now with Traffic Secrets. And find out when the book will actually launch, and what comes next. So listen here to find out all you need to know about what goes on behind the scenes of a big book launch. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/293-behind-the-scenes-of-the-traffic-secrets-book-launch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Behind-The-Scenes of the Traffic Secrets Book Launch full 293 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode Russell gives us a behind the scenes glimpse of what is going into the Traffic Secrets book launch. On this episode Russell gives us a behind the scenes glimpse of what is going into the Traffic Secrets book launch. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in today's episode: Find out how long this launch has been in progress and what the steps have been. Hear about the different phases of launching something, and see what phase Russell is in now with Traffic Secrets. And find out when the book will actually launch, and what comes next. So listen here to find out all you need to know about what goes on behind the scenes of a big book launch. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/293-behind-the-scenes-of-the-traffic-secrets-book-launch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode Russell gives us a behind the scenes glimpse of what is going into the Traffic Secrets book launch. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in today's episode:

  • Find out how long this launch has been in progress and what the steps have been.
  • Hear about the different phases of launching something, and see what phase Russell is in now with Traffic Secrets.
  • And find out when the book will actually launch, and what comes next.

So listen here to find out all you need to know about what goes on behind the scenes of a big book launch.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/293-behind-the-scenes-of-the-traffic-secrets-book-launch

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]]> 624 no Corona Virus: How To Survive The Storm... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/corona-virus-how-to-survive-the-storm Russell's PSA on the Corona Virus and how to protect your company during the storm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sat, 14 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0000 Corona Virus: How To Survive The Storm... bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell's PSA on the Corona Virus and how to protect your company during the storm. Russell's PSA on the Corona Virus and how to protect your company during the storm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell's PSA on the Corona Virus and how to protect your company during the storm.

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]]> 2439 no My Advice For Your Focus Over The Next 10 Years https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-advice-for-your-focus-over-the-next-10-years On this episode I answer a really cool question from Rachel Pedersen about what I would do over the next 10 years if I were to start over. On this episode Russell talks about now that he's 40, what he would do differently if he was still 30. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out why Russell compares the journey of a funnel to the journey of parenthood. See what Russell's favorite thing to do in his business is, and why he says he wishes it worked more like a "one night stand" for him. And find out what other marketer's journey he is jealous of, and wishes he would have done things more like them. So listen here to find out what advice would give himself, if he were still 30. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/292-my-advice-for-your-focus-over-the-next-10-years Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0000 My Advice For Your Focus Over The Next 10 Years full 292 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode I answer a really cool question from Rachel Pedersen about what I would do over the next 10 years if I were to start over. On this episode I answer a really cool question from Rachel Pedersen about what I would do over the next 10 years if I were to start over. On this episode Russell talks about now that he's 40, what he would do differently if he was still 30. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out why Russell compares the journey of a funnel to the journey of parenthood. See what Russell's favorite thing to do in his business is, and why he says he wishes it worked more like a "one night stand" for him. And find out what other marketer's journey he is jealous of, and wishes he would have done things more like them. So listen here to find out what advice would give himself, if he were still 30. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/292-my-advice-for-your-focus-over-the-next-10-years Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode I answer a really cool question from Rachel Pedersen about what I would do over the next 10 years if I were to start over.

On this episode Russell talks about now that he's 40, what he would do differently if he was still 30. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell compares the journey of a funnel to the journey of parenthood.
  • See what Russell's favorite thing to do in his business is, and why he says he wishes it worked more like a "one night stand" for him.
  • And find out what other marketer's journey he is jealous of, and wishes he would have done things more like them.

So listen here to find out what advice would give himself, if he were still 30.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/292-my-advice-for-your-focus-over-the-next-10-years

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]]> 982 no What Happens If You Miss Your Big Idea?... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-happens-if-you-miss-your-big-idea An interesting thought that I got from some awesome person in Puerto Rico. On today's episode Russell talks about ideas and why it's okay if you happen to let some of them go. Here are some of the insightful things Russell has to say in this episode: Why finding out that if you miss a big idea someone else will execute on it should motivate you to actually execute on it yourself. Why you shouldn't beat yourself up if you don't execute on every idea you have. And why you should use your ideas to build up your abilities on how to execute ideas. So listen here to find out why Russell is no longer going to feel guilty about the 1000+ ideas and domain names that he has never executed on. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/291-what-happens-if-you-miss-your-big-idea Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0000 What Happens If You Miss Your Big Idea?... full 291 Russell Brunson | YAP Media An interesting thought that I got from some awesome person in Puerto Rico. An interesting thought that I got from some awesome person in Puerto Rico. On today's episode Russell talks about ideas and why it's okay if you happen to let some of them go. Here are some of the insightful things Russell has to say in this episode: Why finding out that if you miss a big idea someone else will execute on it should motivate you to actually execute on it yourself. Why you shouldn't beat yourself up if you don't execute on every idea you have. And why you should use your ideas to build up your abilities on how to execute ideas. So listen here to find out why Russell is no longer going to feel guilty about the 1000+ ideas and domain names that he has never executed on. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/291-what-happens-if-you-miss-your-big-idea Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices An interesting thought that I got from some awesome person in Puerto Rico.

On today's episode Russell talks about ideas and why it's okay if you happen to let some of them go. Here are some of the insightful things Russell has to say in this episode:

  • Why finding out that if you miss a big idea someone else will execute on it should motivate you to actually execute on it yourself.
  • Why you shouldn't beat yourself up if you don't execute on every idea you have.
  • And why you should use your ideas to build up your abilities on how to execute ideas.

So listen here to find out why Russell is no longer going to feel guilty about the 1000+ ideas and domain names that he has never executed on.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/291-what-happens-if-you-miss-your-big-idea

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]]> 603 no Iterate Quickly https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/iterate-quickly Behind the scenes of the Mastermind.com launch and how it's going from good to great. On this episode Russell talks about why the difference between good and great is being able to iterate quickly. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out what Dean Graziosi did when the recent mastermind.com launch didn't go as well as they had hoped. See what Russell means when he says that these guys aren't better at launching than you, they are just better at tweaking and changing until they find what works. And find out how long it took before one of Dean's books took off, and what he did to finally make the first thousand sales. So listen here to find out what Russell means when he says you need to be able to iterate quickly. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/290-iterate-quickly Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Mar 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Iterate Quickly full 290 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes of the Mastermind.com launch and how it’s going from good to great. Behind the scenes of the Mastermind.com launch and how it's going from good to great. On this episode Russell talks about why the difference between good and great is being able to iterate quickly. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out what Dean Graziosi did when the recent mastermind.com launch didn't go as well as they had hoped. See what Russell means when he says that these guys aren't better at launching than you, they are just better at tweaking and changing until they find what works. And find out how long it took before one of Dean's books took off, and what he did to finally make the first thousand sales. So listen here to find out what Russell means when he says you need to be able to iterate quickly. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/290-iterate-quickly Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes of the Mastermind.com launch and how it's going from good to great.

On this episode Russell talks about why the difference between good and great is being able to iterate quickly. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out what Dean Graziosi did when the recent mastermind.com launch didn't go as well as they had hoped.
  • See what Russell means when he says that these guys aren't better at launching than you, they are just better at tweaking and changing until they find what works.
  • And find out how long it took before one of Dean's books took off, and what he did to finally make the first thousand sales.

So listen here to find out what Russell means when he says you need to be able to iterate quickly.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/290-iterate-quickly

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]]> 491 no My Thoughts at the Mastermind.com Launch... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-thoughts-at-the-mastermindcom-launch Did you watch the Launch event that has over 460k people registered!?! Here was my small contribution. On this special episode you will hear Russell at the Mastermind.com launch talking about what it's like to be called to serve, and the reasons why maybe you're scared to take the step to accept your calling. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why being afraid to get started is okay, but you've got to do it anyway. Why being a "chapter ahead" is a good way to start. And why accepting not accepting your calling could be a tragedy not only for yourself, but for other people too. So listen here to what Russell had to say at the Mastermind.com launch with Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/289-my-thoughts-at-the-mastermind-com-launch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Mar 2020 09:00:00 -0000 My Thoughts at the Mastermind.com Launch... full 289 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Did you watch the Launch event that has over 460k people registered!?! Here was my small contribution. Did you watch the Launch event that has over 460k people registered!?! Here was my small contribution. On this special episode you will hear Russell at the Mastermind.com launch talking about what it's like to be called to serve, and the reasons why maybe you're scared to take the step to accept your calling. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why being afraid to get started is okay, but you've got to do it anyway. Why being a "chapter ahead" is a good way to start. And why accepting not accepting your calling could be a tragedy not only for yourself, but for other people too. So listen here to what Russell had to say at the Mastermind.com launch with Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/289-my-thoughts-at-the-mastermind-com-launch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Did you watch the Launch event that has over 460k people registered!?! Here was my small contribution.

On this special episode you will hear Russell at the Mastermind.com launch talking about what it's like to be called to serve, and the reasons why maybe you're scared to take the step to accept your calling. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why being afraid to get started is okay, but you've got to do it anyway.
  • Why being a "chapter ahead" is a good way to start.
  • And why accepting not accepting your calling could be a tragedy not only for yourself, but for other people too.

So listen here to what Russell had to say at the Mastermind.com launch with Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/289-my-thoughts-at-the-mastermind-com-launch

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]]> 1184 no A Return To Simplicity... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-return-to-simplicity Why complexity is killing your funnels, and your business, and your life. On today's episode Russell talks about how complexity halts the work, and the solution is to simplify. Here are some of the awesome things you will learn in this episode: Why Garrett White took his business away from Clickfunnels Actionetics, and why Russell convinced him it wasn't the answer. Hear an example of Russell and his team trying to make something more complex and why it didn't go anywhere for a long time because of it. And find out why simplicity could be the solution we are looking for in all aspects of our life. So listen here to find out why complexity doesn't make your business run better. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/288-a-return-to-simplicity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Feb 2020 09:00:00 -0000 A Return To Simplicity... full 288 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Why complexity is killing your funnels, and your business, and your life. Why complexity is killing your funnels, and your business, and your life. On today's episode Russell talks about how complexity halts the work, and the solution is to simplify. Here are some of the awesome things you will learn in this episode: Why Garrett White took his business away from Clickfunnels Actionetics, and why Russell convinced him it wasn't the answer. Hear an example of Russell and his team trying to make something more complex and why it didn't go anywhere for a long time because of it. And find out why simplicity could be the solution we are looking for in all aspects of our life. So listen here to find out why complexity doesn't make your business run better. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/288-a-return-to-simplicity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Why complexity is killing your funnels, and your business, and your life.

On today's episode Russell talks about how complexity halts the work, and the solution is to simplify. Here are some of the awesome things you will learn in this episode:

  • Why Garrett White took his business away from Clickfunnels Actionetics, and why Russell convinced him it wasn't the answer.
  • Hear an example of Russell and his team trying to make something more complex and why it didn't go anywhere for a long time because of it.
  • And find out why simplicity could be the solution we are looking for in all aspects of our life.

So listen here to find out why complexity doesn't make your business run better.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/288-a-return-to-simplicity

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]]> 642 no Routine Is The Death Of Memory https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/routine-is-the-death-of-memory Have you ever noticed that the years get faster and faster? Here's the secret to extend your years and extend the happiness of your life. On this episode Russell talks about a presentation he saw with Craig Clemens of Golden Hippo while they were in Puerto Rico and how he taught him something that is the opposite of what he believed. Here are some of the awesome things you will learn in this episode: Why Craig Clemens believes that routine is the death of memory, and how that makes sense even though it's the opposite of what Russell believed. Find out how you can use event horizons to prolong your life and happiness. And what kind of things happened on Russell's Puerto Rico trip and afterwards that made them event horizons in his and his kids' lives. So listen here to find out why routine is the death of memory. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/287-routine-is-the-death-of-memory Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 24 Feb 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Routine Is The Death Of Memory full 287 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Have you ever noticed that the years get faster and faster? Here’s the secret to extend your years and extend the happiness of your life. Have you ever noticed that the years get faster and faster? Here's the secret to extend your years and extend the happiness of your life. On this episode Russell talks about a presentation he saw with Craig Clemens of Golden Hippo while they were in Puerto Rico and how he taught him something that is the opposite of what he believed. Here are some of the awesome things you will learn in this episode: Why Craig Clemens believes that routine is the death of memory, and how that makes sense even though it's the opposite of what Russell believed. Find out how you can use event horizons to prolong your life and happiness. And what kind of things happened on Russell's Puerto Rico trip and afterwards that made them event horizons in his and his kids' lives. So listen here to find out why routine is the death of memory. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/287-routine-is-the-death-of-memory Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Have you ever noticed that the years get faster and faster? Here's the secret to extend your years and extend the happiness of your life.

On this episode Russell talks about a presentation he saw with Craig Clemens of Golden Hippo while they were in Puerto Rico and how he taught him something that is the opposite of what he believed. Here are some of the awesome things you will learn in this episode:

  • Why Craig Clemens believes that routine is the death of memory, and how that makes sense even though it's the opposite of what Russell believed.
  • Find out how you can use event horizons to prolong your life and happiness.
  • And what kind of things happened on Russell's Puerto Rico trip and afterwards that made them event horizons in his and his kids' lives.

So listen here to find out why routine is the death of memory.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/287-routine-is-the-death-of-memory

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]]> 812 no My Framework For Selling Frameworks https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-framework-for-selling-frameworks One small tweak that most people miss, that's the difference between teaching your framework and selling your framework. On this episode Russell talks about how he sells a framework and how it is different than teaching a framework. Here are some of the informative things you will hear on this episode: Why you sell frameworks almost the same as teaching them. What step is missing when you are selling. So listen here to find out the framework Russell uses for selling frameworks. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/286-my-framework-for-selling-frameworks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Feb 2020 09:00:00 -0000 My Framework For Selling Frameworks full 286 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One small tweak that most people miss, that’s the difference between teaching your framework and selling your framework. One small tweak that most people miss, that's the difference between teaching your framework and selling your framework. On this episode Russell talks about how he sells a framework and how it is different than teaching a framework. Here are some of the informative things you will hear on this episode: Why you sell frameworks almost the same as teaching them. What step is missing when you are selling. So listen here to find out the framework Russell uses for selling frameworks. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/286-my-framework-for-selling-frameworks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One small tweak that most people miss, that's the difference between teaching your framework and selling your framework.

On this episode Russell talks about how he sells a framework and how it is different than teaching a framework. Here are some of the informative things you will hear on this episode:

  • Why you sell frameworks almost the same as teaching them.
  • What step is missing when you are selling.

So listen here to find out the framework Russell uses for selling frameworks.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/286-my-framework-for-selling-frameworks

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]]> 473 no The Framework on How to Teach Your Framework https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-framework-on-how-to-teach-your-framework Now that you have developed your own frameworks, this episode will show you how to teach a framework so that people will understand it and are able to actually implement and use it. On this episode Russell teaches how to teach a framework. Here are the three steps that you need to follow: Tell the story of how you learned or earned your concept. Tell the strategy. Tell the tactics. So listen here for Russell's explanation of these three steps of how to teach a framework. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/285-the-framework-on-how-to-teach-your-framework Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Framework on How to Teach Your Framework full 285 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Now that you have developed your own frameworks, this episode will show you how to teach a framework so that people will understand it and are able to actually implement and use it. Now that you have developed your own frameworks, this episode will show you how to teach a framework so that people will understand it and are able to actually implement and use it. On this episode Russell teaches how to teach a framework. Here are the three steps that you need to follow: Tell the story of how you learned or earned your concept. Tell the strategy. Tell the tactics. So listen here for Russell's explanation of these three steps of how to teach a framework. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/285-the-framework-on-how-to-teach-your-framework Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Now that you have developed your own frameworks, this episode will show you how to teach a framework so that people will understand it and are able to actually implement and use it.

On this episode Russell teaches how to teach a framework. Here are the three steps that you need to follow:

  • Tell the story of how you learned or earned your concept.
  • Tell the strategy.
  • Tell the tactics.

So listen here for Russell's explanation of these three steps of how to teach a framework.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/285-the-framework-on-how-to-teach-your-framework

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]]> 563 no The 5 Step Framework For Finding Your Voice https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-5-step-framework-for-finding-your-voice Highlights from my keynote presentation at FHL 2020. Showing the 5 steps of how to find your voice, including how to find, develop and create your own frameworks. On this special episode Russell shares part of his keynote presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2020 in which he speaks about finding your voice using a framework. Here are some of the super interesting things to listen for in this amazing episode taken from FHL: Find out what Russell means when he says everything is a framework within a framework. See why you need to become really, really good at making frameworks, and who someone is you can look to that shares a lot of them on social media. And find out all the steps you need to take to be able to finally find your voice. So listen here to this very special keynote presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2020. Transcription - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/284-the-5-step-framework-for-finding-your-voice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Feb 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The 5 Step Framework For Finding Your Voice full 284 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Highlights from my keynote presentation at FHL 2020. Showing the 5 steps of how to find your voice, including how to find, develop and create your own frameworks. Highlights from my keynote presentation at FHL 2020. Showing the 5 steps of how to find your voice, including how to find, develop and create your own frameworks. On this special episode Russell shares part of his keynote presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2020 in which he speaks about finding your voice using a framework. Here are some of the super interesting things to listen for in this amazing episode taken from FHL: Find out what Russell means when he says everything is a framework within a framework. See why you need to become really, really good at making frameworks, and who someone is you can look to that shares a lot of them on social media. And find out all the steps you need to take to be able to finally find your voice. So listen here to this very special keynote presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2020. Transcription - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/284-the-5-step-framework-for-finding-your-voice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Highlights from my keynote presentation at FHL 2020. Showing the 5 steps of how to find your voice, including how to find, develop and create your own frameworks.

On this special episode Russell shares part of his keynote presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2020 in which he speaks about finding your voice using a framework. Here are some of the super interesting things to listen for in this amazing episode taken from FHL:

  • Find out what Russell means when he says everything is a framework within a framework.
  • See why you need to become really, really good at making frameworks, and who someone is you can look to that shares a lot of them on social media.
  • And find out all the steps you need to take to be able to finally find your voice.

So listen here to this very special keynote presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2020.

Transcription - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/284-the-5-step-framework-for-finding-your-voice

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]]> 3002 no What Is A Funnel Hacker? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-is-a-funnel-hacker You are an entrepreneur by birth, but you are a funnel hacker by choice... On this episode during Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live, he talks about what it means to be a funnel hacker. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Find out what the difference is between a regular entrepreneur and a Funnel Hacker. Hear an emotional story about how entrepreneurs can change people's lives when they are super passionate about their art.. And find out what mantra Russell and Clickfunnels are going to push for the next 12 months, and why it matters. So listen here to the first part of Russell's first presentation from this year's Funnel Hacking Live, about what it means to be a Funnel Hacker. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/283-what-is-a-funnel-hacker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 Feb 2020 09:00:00 -0000 What Is A Funnel Hacker? full 283 Russell Brunson | YAP Media You are an entrepreneur by birth, but you are a funnel hacker by choice… You are an entrepreneur by birth, but you are a funnel hacker by choice... On this episode during Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live, he talks about what it means to be a funnel hacker. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Find out what the difference is between a regular entrepreneur and a Funnel Hacker. Hear an emotional story about how entrepreneurs can change people's lives when they are super passionate about their art.. And find out what mantra Russell and Clickfunnels are going to push for the next 12 months, and why it matters. So listen here to the first part of Russell's first presentation from this year's Funnel Hacking Live, about what it means to be a Funnel Hacker. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/283-what-is-a-funnel-hacker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices You are an entrepreneur by birth, but you are a funnel hacker by choice...

On this episode during Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live, he talks about what it means to be a funnel hacker. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:

  • Find out what the difference is between a regular entrepreneur and a Funnel Hacker.
  • Hear an emotional story about how entrepreneurs can change people's lives when they are super passionate about their art..
  • And find out what mantra Russell and Clickfunnels are going to push for the next 12 months, and why it matters.

So listen here to the first part of Russell's first presentation from this year's Funnel Hacking Live, about what it means to be a Funnel Hacker.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/283-what-is-a-funnel-hacker

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]]> 1305 no Funnel Hacking Live 2020 - The Highlights Show https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-2020-the-highlights-show A recap of my favorite moments from the last six funnel hacking live events. On this episode Russell recaps his favorite parts of all six past Funnel Hacking Live events, and gives a quick recap of this year's event. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell didn't want to do another Funnel Hacking Live after year three. Hear which year was Russell's personal favorite and why. And see how he thinks this year's event went, and where it falls on his list of favorites. So listen here to find out what Russell really thinks of the past six years of Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/282-funnel-hacking-live-2020-the-highlights-show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Feb 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live 2020 - The Highlights Show full 282 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A recap of my favorite moments from the last six funnel hacking live events. A recap of my favorite moments from the last six funnel hacking live events. On this episode Russell recaps his favorite parts of all six past Funnel Hacking Live events, and gives a quick recap of this year's event. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell didn't want to do another Funnel Hacking Live after year three. Hear which year was Russell's personal favorite and why. And see how he thinks this year's event went, and where it falls on his list of favorites. So listen here to find out what Russell really thinks of the past six years of Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/282-funnel-hacking-live-2020-the-highlights-show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A recap of my favorite moments from the last six funnel hacking live events.

On this episode Russell recaps his favorite parts of all six past Funnel Hacking Live events, and gives a quick recap of this year's event. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell didn't want to do another Funnel Hacking Live after year three.
  • Hear which year was Russell's personal favorite and why.
  • And see how he thinks this year's event went, and where it falls on his list of favorites.

So listen here to find out what Russell really thinks of the past six years of Funnel Hacking Live.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/282-funnel-hacking-live-2020-the-highlights-show

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]]> 1613 no DO HARD THINGS!!! (Revisited) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/do-hard-things-revisited If you want to be worthy and ready for the mission that God wants to give you, it's time to follow this one simple principle. I'm a little busy at FunnelHacking Live 2020, so here is a special "throwback" episode to keep you busy until things calm down a bit! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/281-do-hard-things-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 Feb 2020 09:00:00 -0000 DO HARD THINGS!!! (Revisited) full 281 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you want to be worthy and ready for the mission that God wants to give you, it’s time to follow this one simple principle. If you want to be worthy and ready for the mission that God wants to give you, it's time to follow this one simple principle. I'm a little busy at FunnelHacking Live 2020, so here is a special "throwback" episode to keep you busy until things calm down a bit! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/281-do-hard-things-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you want to be worthy and ready for the mission that God wants to give you, it's time to follow this one simple principle.

I'm a little busy at FunnelHacking Live 2020, so here is a special "throwback" episode to keep you busy until things calm down a bit!

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]]> 652 no What Is A Unicorn? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-is-a-unicorn A couple lessons I've been learning on my march towards a billion dollar evaluation. On this episode Russell describes what a unicorn is, and why he set a goal to become one. Here are some of the awesome things in today's episode: Find out why Russell wants to become a unicorn, and why it was a goal he used to think was impossible. See what changed his mind into believing Clickfunnels could actually achieve unicorn status. And find out what Russell's next book will be about, and when you can expect to see it. So listen here to find out why Russell wants to be a unicorn. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/280-what-is-a-unicorn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0000 What Is A Unicorn? full 280 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A couple lessons I’ve been learning on my march towards a billion dollar evaluation. A couple lessons I've been learning on my march towards a billion dollar evaluation. On this episode Russell describes what a unicorn is, and why he set a goal to become one. Here are some of the awesome things in today's episode: Find out why Russell wants to become a unicorn, and why it was a goal he used to think was impossible. See what changed his mind into believing Clickfunnels could actually achieve unicorn status. And find out what Russell's next book will be about, and when you can expect to see it. So listen here to find out why Russell wants to be a unicorn. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/280-what-is-a-unicorn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A couple lessons I've been learning on my march towards a billion dollar evaluation.

On this episode Russell describes what a unicorn is, and why he set a goal to become one. Here are some of the awesome things in today's episode:

  • Find out why Russell wants to become a unicorn, and why it was a goal he used to think was impossible.
  • See what changed his mind into believing Clickfunnels could actually achieve unicorn status.
  • And find out what Russell's next book will be about, and when you can expect to see it.

So listen here to find out why Russell wants to be a unicorn.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/280-what-is-a-unicorn

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]]> 778 no Is Your Trial Bigger Than Mine? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/is-your-trial-bigger-than-mine When all is said and done, I think we'll be shocked at how similar all of our problems in this life really were. On today's episode Russell talks about an epiphany that he had in Kenya. Here are some of his awesome thoughts from this episode: Why seeing people fighting for food in Kenya helped Russell gain a new perspective on trials. Why he believes that everyone's trials, while different, are the same in magnitude. And why you should serve your customers with empathy, because you don't know what kind of trials they are currently struggling with. So listen here to hear why Russell believes trials are different, but we'd all be shocked to learn how similar they are in magnitude. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/279-is-your-trial-bigger-than-mine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Is Your Trial Bigger Than Mine? full 279 Russell Brunson | YAP Media When all is said and done, I think we’ll be shocked at how similar all of our problems in this life really were. When all is said and done, I think we'll be shocked at how similar all of our problems in this life really were. On today's episode Russell talks about an epiphany that he had in Kenya. Here are some of his awesome thoughts from this episode: Why seeing people fighting for food in Kenya helped Russell gain a new perspective on trials. Why he believes that everyone's trials, while different, are the same in magnitude. And why you should serve your customers with empathy, because you don't know what kind of trials they are currently struggling with. So listen here to hear why Russell believes trials are different, but we'd all be shocked to learn how similar they are in magnitude. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/279-is-your-trial-bigger-than-mine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices When all is said and done, I think we'll be shocked at how similar all of our problems in this life really were.

On today's episode Russell talks about an epiphany that he had in Kenya. Here are some of his awesome thoughts from this episode:

  • Why seeing people fighting for food in Kenya helped Russell gain a new perspective on trials.
  • Why he believes that everyone's trials, while different, are the same in magnitude.
  • And why you should serve your customers with empathy, because you don't know what kind of trials they are currently struggling with.

So listen here to hear why Russell believes trials are different, but we'd all be shocked to learn how similar they are in magnitude.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/279-is-your-trial-bigger-than-mine

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]]> 497 no Do It Yourself, Done With You, Done For You https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/do-it-yourself-done-with-you-done-for-you The three step framework to move people through your upsells, as well as your value ladder. On this episode Russell gives a brief description of how the value ladder works in very simple terms. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for on this episode: Hear about the three tiers that are in the value ladder in simple terms. And Hear how Peng Joon uses in his three tiers. So listen here to hear this awesome, simple explanation of the value ladder. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/278-do-it-yourself-done-with-you-done-for-you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0000 Do It Yourself, Done With You, Done For You full 278 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The three step framework to move people through your upsells, as well as your value ladder. The three step framework to move people through your upsells, as well as your value ladder. On this episode Russell gives a brief description of how the value ladder works in very simple terms. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for on this episode: Hear about the three tiers that are in the value ladder in simple terms. And Hear how Peng Joon uses in his three tiers. So listen here to hear this awesome, simple explanation of the value ladder. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/278-do-it-yourself-done-with-you-done-for-you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The three step framework to move people through your upsells, as well as your value ladder.

On this episode Russell gives a brief description of how the value ladder works in very simple terms. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for on this episode:

  • Hear about the three tiers that are in the value ladder in simple terms.
  • And Hear how Peng Joon uses in his three tiers.

So listen here to hear this awesome, simple explanation of the value ladder.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/278-do-it-yourself-done-with-you-done-for-you

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]]> 410 no The Lens Of Curiosity https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-lens-of-curiosity One of the keys of success, is breaking the pattern of frustration and rebuilding a pattern of curiosity. On this episode Russell talks about realizing that he sees things differently than other people. Instead of getting frustrated with a situation he gets curious as to why it is that way and figures out a way to fix it. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out what experience Russell had that helped him forego frustration and jump straight to curiosity and be able to fix a problem. See why Russell thinks being frustrated puts the problem on someone else, whereas curiosity brings it back to you. And find out how you too can switch your brain to look through the lens of curiosity instead of frustration. So listen here to see how curiosity helps solve problems, while frustration puts the blame on someone else. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/277-the-lens-of-curiosity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Lens Of Curiosity full 277 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of the keys of success, is breaking the pattern of frustration and rebuilding a pattern of curiosity. One of the keys of success, is breaking the pattern of frustration and rebuilding a pattern of curiosity. On this episode Russell talks about realizing that he sees things differently than other people. Instead of getting frustrated with a situation he gets curious as to why it is that way and figures out a way to fix it. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out what experience Russell had that helped him forego frustration and jump straight to curiosity and be able to fix a problem. See why Russell thinks being frustrated puts the problem on someone else, whereas curiosity brings it back to you. And find out how you too can switch your brain to look through the lens of curiosity instead of frustration. So listen here to see how curiosity helps solve problems, while frustration puts the blame on someone else. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/277-the-lens-of-curiosity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of the keys of success, is breaking the pattern of frustration and rebuilding a pattern of curiosity.

On this episode Russell talks about realizing that he sees things differently than other people. Instead of getting frustrated with a situation he gets curious as to why it is that way and figures out a way to fix it. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out what experience Russell had that helped him forego frustration and jump straight to curiosity and be able to fix a problem.
  • See why Russell thinks being frustrated puts the problem on someone else, whereas curiosity brings it back to you.
  • And find out how you too can switch your brain to look through the lens of curiosity instead of frustration.

So listen here to see how curiosity helps solve problems, while frustration puts the blame on someone else.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/277-the-lens-of-curiosity

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]]> 598 no How I Prep For FHL https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-i-prep-for-fhl Behind the scenes look at how I create 8 presentations in less than two weeks. On this episode Russell shares how he prepares for Funnel Hacking Live, and what kind of work goes into each presentation, including: How he organizes each presentation inside Google Drive. How he makes each slide, and who makes it look so pretty. And how he gets it all done in just 2 weeks time. So listen now to find out all that goes into each of the 8 FHL presentations that Russell will be doing this year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/276-how-i-prep-for-fhl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0000 How I Prep For FHL full 276 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes look at how I create 8 presentations in less than two weeks. Behind the scenes look at how I create 8 presentations in less than two weeks. On this episode Russell shares how he prepares for Funnel Hacking Live, and what kind of work goes into each presentation, including: How he organizes each presentation inside Google Drive. How he makes each slide, and who makes it look so pretty. And how he gets it all done in just 2 weeks time. So listen now to find out all that goes into each of the 8 FHL presentations that Russell will be doing this year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/276-how-i-prep-for-fhl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes look at how I create 8 presentations in less than two weeks.

On this episode Russell shares how he prepares for Funnel Hacking Live, and what kind of work goes into each presentation, including:

  • How he organizes each presentation inside Google Drive.
  • How he makes each slide, and who makes it look so pretty.
  • And how he gets it all done in just 2 weeks time.

So listen now to find out all that goes into each of the 8 FHL presentations that Russell will be doing this year.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/276-how-i-prep-for-fhl

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]]> 912 no 5 Years Of Training In A Weekend https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/5-years-of-training-in-a-weekend How your message can impact more people than you ever thought possible. On this episode Russell talks about doing a live training and how many views were consumed in just 3 days, and that it equaled out to about 5 years worth of time. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: How the math of views equals out to be 5 years. And how this type of training differs from traditional schooling, or even the teachings of Aristotle. So listen here to Russell talk about how amazing it is to be able to teach so much content in such a seemingly small amount of time. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/275-5-years-of-training-in-a-weekend Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0000 5 Years Of Training In A Weekend full 275 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How your message can impact more people than you ever thought possible. How your message can impact more people than you ever thought possible. On this episode Russell talks about doing a live training and how many views were consumed in just 3 days, and that it equaled out to about 5 years worth of time. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: How the math of views equals out to be 5 years. And how this type of training differs from traditional schooling, or even the teachings of Aristotle. So listen here to Russell talk about how amazing it is to be able to teach so much content in such a seemingly small amount of time. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/275-5-years-of-training-in-a-weekend Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How your message can impact more people than you ever thought possible.

On this episode Russell talks about doing a live training and how many views were consumed in just 3 days, and that it equaled out to about 5 years worth of time. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • How the math of views equals out to be 5 years.
  • And how this type of training differs from traditional schooling, or even the teachings of Aristotle.

So listen here to Russell talk about how amazing it is to be able to teach so much content in such a seemingly small amount of time.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/275-5-years-of-training-in-a-weekend

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]]> 513 no The Top Marketing Secrets From My Inner Circle (Part 2 of 2) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-top-marketing-secrets-from-my-inner-circle-part-2-of-2 On this very special, two part episode Russell asks his inner circle to weigh in on the biggest marketing secrets they have learned over the past decade. You will from the following people on part two: Daniel Den Joe McCall Ray Higdon Krista Mashore Sarah Petty Marley Jaxx Eric Beer Katie Richardson Thomas Shipley Nicholas Bayerle Mike Arce Joe Marfoglio Chris Baden So listen here to get this amazing, valuable marketing advice from some of the top marketers out there right now. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/274-the-top-marketing-secrets-from-my-inner-circle-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Top Marketing Secrets From My Inner Circle (Part 2 of 2) full 274 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this very special, two part episode Russell asks his inner circle to weigh in on the biggest marketing secrets they have learned over the past decade. On this very special, two part episode Russell asks his inner circle to weigh in on the biggest marketing secrets they have learned over the past decade. You will from the following people on part two: Daniel Den Joe McCall Ray Higdon Krista Mashore Sarah Petty Marley Jaxx Eric Beer Katie Richardson Thomas Shipley Nicholas Bayerle Mike Arce Joe Marfoglio Chris Baden So listen here to get this amazing, valuable marketing advice from some of the top marketers out there right now. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/274-the-top-marketing-secrets-from-my-inner-circle-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this very special, two part episode Russell asks his inner circle to weigh in on the biggest marketing secrets they have learned over the past decade. You will from the following people on part two:

  • Daniel Den
  • Joe McCall
  • Ray Higdon
  • Krista Mashore
  • Sarah Petty
  • Marley Jaxx
  • Eric Beer
  • Katie Richardson
  • Thomas Shipley
  • Nicholas Bayerle
  • Mike Arce
  • Joe Marfoglio
  • Chris Baden

So listen here to get this amazing, valuable marketing advice from some of the top marketers out there right now.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/274-the-top-marketing-secrets-from-my-inner-circle-part-2-of-2

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]]> 2460 no The Top Marketing Secrets From My Inner Circle (Part 1 of 2) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-top-marketing-secrets-from-my-inner-circle-part-1-of-2 On this very special, two part episode Russell asks his inner circle to weigh in on the biggest marketing secrets they have learned over the past decade. You will hear from the following people on part one: Peng Joon Andrew Argue Rachel Pedersen Joshua Latimer Pedro Adao Jayme Amos Jaime Cross Annie Grace Alison J Prince Ryan Lee Stacey Martino Bart Miller Julie Stoian So listen here to get this amazing, valuable marketing advice from some of the top marketers out there right now. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/273-the-top-marketing-secrets-from-my-inner-circle-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The Top Marketing Secrets From My Inner Circle (Part 1 of 2) full 273 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this very special, two part episode Russell asks his inner circle to weigh in on the biggest marketing secrets they have learned over the past decade. On this very special, two part episode Russell asks his inner circle to weigh in on the biggest marketing secrets they have learned over the past decade. You will hear from the following people on part one: Peng Joon Andrew Argue Rachel Pedersen Joshua Latimer Pedro Adao Jayme Amos Jaime Cross Annie Grace Alison J Prince Ryan Lee Stacey Martino Bart Miller Julie Stoian So listen here to get this amazing, valuable marketing advice from some of the top marketers out there right now. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/273-the-top-marketing-secrets-from-my-inner-circle-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this very special, two part episode Russell asks his inner circle to weigh in on the biggest marketing secrets they have learned over the past decade. You will hear from the following people on part one:

  • Peng Joon
  • Andrew Argue
  • Rachel Pedersen
  • Joshua Latimer
  • Pedro Adao
  • Jayme Amos
  • Jaime Cross
  • Annie Grace
  • Alison J Prince
  • Ryan Lee
  • Stacey Martino
  • Bart Miller
  • Julie Stoian

So listen here to get this amazing, valuable marketing advice from some of the top marketers out there right now.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/273-the-top-marketing-secrets-from-my-inner-circle-part-1-of-2

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]]> 2118 no The One Big Domino For The Next 10 Years https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-one-big-domino-for-the-next-10-years How to shortcut 10 years of growth into one year. On this episode Russell discusses how he has been strategically planning the big domino move to propel Clickfunnels forward 10 years. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out who Russell learned the big domino technique from and how it differs from his own technique. Why Russell had to look at the question from a new perspective to be able to find the answer he was looking for. And see why you too should look at your business from a different lens in order to be able to find the answers you're seeking. So listen here to find out how strategically planning for a big domino effect, Russell plans to propel his business forward in growth. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/272-the-one-big-domino-for-the-next-10-years Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 01 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0000 The One Big Domino For The Next 10 Years full 272 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to shortcut 10 years of growth into one year. How to shortcut 10 years of growth into one year. On this episode Russell discusses how he has been strategically planning the big domino move to propel Clickfunnels forward 10 years. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out who Russell learned the big domino technique from and how it differs from his own technique. Why Russell had to look at the question from a new perspective to be able to find the answer he was looking for. And see why you too should look at your business from a different lens in order to be able to find the answers you're seeking. So listen here to find out how strategically planning for a big domino effect, Russell plans to propel his business forward in growth. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/272-the-one-big-domino-for-the-next-10-years Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to shortcut 10 years of growth into one year.

On this episode Russell discusses how he has been strategically planning the big domino move to propel Clickfunnels forward 10 years. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in today's episode:

  • Find out who Russell learned the big domino technique from and how it differs from his own technique.
  • Why Russell had to look at the question from a new perspective to be able to find the answer he was looking for.
  • And see why you too should look at your business from a different lens in order to be able to find the answers you're seeking.

So listen here to find out how strategically planning for a big domino effect, Russell plans to propel his business forward in growth.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/272-the-one-big-domino-for-the-next-10-years

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]]> 526 no The 90 Day Funnel Structure For 2020 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-90-day-funnel-structure-for-2020 A way to structure your funnels and your content for maximum happiness to you and your customers in 2020. On this episode Russell talks about a new structure he is going to roll out for 2020 which allows him to be creative, but gives his team the structure they need. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in this episode: Find out why Russell isn't a planner, but why that can be hard for his team. See why having everything too planned out is so hard on Russell. And hear Russell's new plan that allows him to continue to be creative, but still gives the team structure. So listen here to find out Russell's new plan for 2020, and see if you can adjust it to fit within your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/271-the-90-day-funnel-structure-for-2020 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0000 The 90 Day Funnel Structure For 2020 full 271 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A way to structure your funnels and your content for maximum happiness to you and your customers in 2020. A way to structure your funnels and your content for maximum happiness to you and your customers in 2020. On this episode Russell talks about a new structure he is going to roll out for 2020 which allows him to be creative, but gives his team the structure they need. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in this episode: Find out why Russell isn't a planner, but why that can be hard for his team. See why having everything too planned out is so hard on Russell. And hear Russell's new plan that allows him to continue to be creative, but still gives the team structure. So listen here to find out Russell's new plan for 2020, and see if you can adjust it to fit within your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/271-the-90-day-funnel-structure-for-2020 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A way to structure your funnels and your content for maximum happiness to you and your customers in 2020.

On this episode Russell talks about a new structure he is going to roll out for 2020 which allows him to be creative, but gives his team the structure they need. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell isn't a planner, but why that can be hard for his team.
  • See why having everything too planned out is so hard on Russell.
  • And hear Russell's new plan that allows him to continue to be creative, but still gives the team structure.

So listen here to find out Russell's new plan for 2020, and see if you can adjust it to fit within your own business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/271-the-90-day-funnel-structure-for-2020

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]]> 801 no After Info Products, Then What?... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/after-info-products-then-what The only way to 10X your business is this. On this episode Russell talks about having his end of year meeting, and realizing how moving away from just info products is what allowed his business to make over 100 million dollars. Here are some of the awesome nuggets to listen for in today's episode: Find out why all the top businesses in the community have grown by finding something outside of the info product to sell. And hear what questions you need to ask yourself in order to figure out what your non-info product could be. So listen here to find out why you should start thinking about stepping outside of just having an info product if you want to grow your business beyond 30 million dollars a year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/270-after-info-products-then-what Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0000 After Info Products, Then What?... full 270 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The only way to 10X your business is this. The only way to 10X your business is this. On this episode Russell talks about having his end of year meeting, and realizing how moving away from just info products is what allowed his business to make over 100 million dollars. Here are some of the awesome nuggets to listen for in today's episode: Find out why all the top businesses in the community have grown by finding something outside of the info product to sell. And hear what questions you need to ask yourself in order to figure out what your non-info product could be. So listen here to find out why you should start thinking about stepping outside of just having an info product if you want to grow your business beyond 30 million dollars a year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/270-after-info-products-then-what Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The only way to 10X your business is this.

On this episode Russell talks about having his end of year meeting, and realizing how moving away from just info products is what allowed his business to make over 100 million dollars. Here are some of the awesome nuggets to listen for in today's episode:

  • Find out why all the top businesses in the community have grown by finding something outside of the info product to sell.
  • And hear what questions you need to ask yourself in order to figure out what your non-info product could be.

So listen here to find out why you should start thinking about stepping outside of just having an info product if you want to grow your business beyond 30 million dollars a year.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/270-after-info-products-then-what

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]]> 660 no How You Learned Or Earned... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-you-learned-or-earned The secret I found during my book rewrites to make sure people grasp the gold you're about to give them. On this episode Russell talks about finishing up the rewrite for his Expert Secrets book, and what kind of changes he has been making to it, and the Dotcom Secrets book. Here are some of the amazing things to look forward to in today's episode: Why Russell decided to rewrite his previous two books in time for the launch of the upcoming Traffic Secrets book. Why the new versions of the book are different, and what the difference is. And how you can use your story about learning or earning to make people buy in to what you are trying to sell. So listen here to find out what it means to learn or earn it, and how you can use it in your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/269-how-you-learned-or-earned Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0000 How You Learned Or Earned... full 269 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The secret I found during my book rewrites to make sure people grasp the gold you’re about to give them. The secret I found during my book rewrites to make sure people grasp the gold you're about to give them. On this episode Russell talks about finishing up the rewrite for his Expert Secrets book, and what kind of changes he has been making to it, and the Dotcom Secrets book. Here are some of the amazing things to look forward to in today's episode: Why Russell decided to rewrite his previous two books in time for the launch of the upcoming Traffic Secrets book. Why the new versions of the book are different, and what the difference is. And how you can use your story about learning or earning to make people buy in to what you are trying to sell. So listen here to find out what it means to learn or earn it, and how you can use it in your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/269-how-you-learned-or-earned Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The secret I found during my book rewrites to make sure people grasp the gold you're about to give them.

On this episode Russell talks about finishing up the rewrite for his Expert Secrets book, and what kind of changes he has been making to it, and the Dotcom Secrets book. Here are some of the amazing things to look forward to in today's episode:

  • Why Russell decided to rewrite his previous two books in time for the launch of the upcoming Traffic Secrets book.
  • Why the new versions of the book are different, and what the difference is.
  • And how you can use your story about learning or earning to make people buy in to what you are trying to sell.

So listen here to find out what it means to learn or earn it, and how you can use it in your own business.

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]]> 638 no The Hard Truth Every CEO Needs To Hear https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-hard-truth-every-ceo-needs-to-hear On this episode Russell allows us to listen in on some personal advice that Tony Robbins gave him about where he should go with Clickfunnels, and why that may involve stepping down as CEO. Here are some of the surprising things you will hear in this episode: Where Tony thinks Russell should go next, and why he thinks selling Clickfunnels would be a mistake. What Tony has done with his own companies that he thinks would be a great move for Russell to make. And what makes Russell so good at what he does, and how he can continue to do what he loves without being CEO. So listen here to find out what Tony thinks Russell's next move should be. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/268-the-hard-truth-every-ceo-needs-to-hear Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 18 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0000 The Hard Truth Every CEO Needs To Hear full 268 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode Russell allows us to listen in on some personal advice that Tony Robbins gave him about where he should go with Clickfunnels, and why that may involve stepping down as CEO. On this episode Russell allows us to listen in on some personal advice that Tony Robbins gave him about where he should go with Clickfunnels, and why that may involve stepping down as CEO. Here are some of the surprising things you will hear in this episode: Where Tony thinks Russell should go next, and why he thinks selling Clickfunnels would be a mistake. What Tony has done with his own companies that he thinks would be a great move for Russell to make. And what makes Russell so good at what he does, and how he can continue to do what he loves without being CEO. So listen here to find out what Tony thinks Russell's next move should be. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/268-the-hard-truth-every-ceo-needs-to-hear Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode Russell allows us to listen in on some personal advice that Tony Robbins gave him about where he should go with Clickfunnels, and why that may involve stepping down as CEO. Here are some of the surprising things you will hear in this episode:

  • Where Tony thinks Russell should go next, and why he thinks selling Clickfunnels would be a mistake.
  • What Tony has done with his own companies that he thinks would be a great move for Russell to make.
  • And what makes Russell so good at what he does, and how he can continue to do what he loves without being CEO.

So listen here to find out what Tony thinks Russell's next move should be.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/268-the-hard-truth-every-ceo-needs-to-hear

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]]> 1143 no My 12 Year Dream 100 Campaign With Tony Robbins https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-12-year-dream-100-campaign-with-tony-robbins In this special episode that is taken from a recent YouTube video, Russell talks about how he used the Dream 100 strategy to build a relationship with Tony Robbins over the last decade and a half. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out how Tony and Russell met. Hear why it took such a long time for the relationship Russell had with Tony to progress over the years. And see how eventually he was able to become partners with Tony. So listen here to get the whole story of Russell's friendship with Tony Robbins, and don't forget to watch the video on YouTube. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/267-my-12-year-dream-100-campaign-with-tony-robbins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0000 My 12 Year Dream 100 Campaign With Tony Robbins full 267 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In this special episode that is taken from a recent YouTube video, Russell talks about how he used the Dream 100 strategy to build a relationship with Tony Robbins over the last decade and a half. In this special episode that is taken from a recent YouTube video, Russell talks about how he used the Dream 100 strategy to build a relationship with Tony Robbins over the last decade and a half. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out how Tony and Russell met. Hear why it took such a long time for the relationship Russell had with Tony to progress over the years. And see how eventually he was able to become partners with Tony. So listen here to get the whole story of Russell's friendship with Tony Robbins, and don't forget to watch the video on YouTube. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/267-my-12-year-dream-100-campaign-with-tony-robbins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this special episode that is taken from a recent YouTube video, Russell talks about how he used the Dream 100 strategy to build a relationship with Tony Robbins over the last decade and a half. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out how Tony and Russell met.
  • Hear why it took such a long time for the relationship Russell had with Tony to progress over the years.
  • And see how eventually he was able to become partners with Tony.

So listen here to get the whole story of Russell's friendship with Tony Robbins, and don't forget to watch the video on YouTube.

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]]> 1326 no I FOUND THE SECRET TO HAPPINESS!!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/i-found-the-secret-to-happiness I can't believe it, I actually found the secret to happiness; and it's not what I thought it was going to be. In this episode Russell talks about discovering the secret to happiness in the memories brought about in his family photos. Here are some of the insightful messages you will hear in this episode: Find out why categorizing all his photos made Russell find his happy place. See why Russell believes that happiness is found in the memories brought about by photos rather than in the event taking place in the photos. And see what software Russell is using in order to organize all his photos. So listen here to find out what Russell believes is the secret to happiness, so you can get happy too. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/266-i-found-the-secret-to-happiness Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0000 I FOUND THE SECRET TO HAPPINESS!!! full 266 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I can’t believe it, I actually found the secret to happiness; and it’s not what I thought it was going to be. I can't believe it, I actually found the secret to happiness; and it's not what I thought it was going to be. In this episode Russell talks about discovering the secret to happiness in the memories brought about in his family photos. Here are some of the insightful messages you will hear in this episode: Find out why categorizing all his photos made Russell find his happy place. See why Russell believes that happiness is found in the memories brought about by photos rather than in the event taking place in the photos. And see what software Russell is using in order to organize all his photos. So listen here to find out what Russell believes is the secret to happiness, so you can get happy too. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/266-i-found-the-secret-to-happiness Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I can't believe it, I actually found the secret to happiness; and it's not what I thought it was going to be.

In this episode Russell talks about discovering the secret to happiness in the memories brought about in his family photos. Here are some of the insightful messages you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why categorizing all his photos made Russell find his happy place.
  • See why Russell believes that happiness is found in the memories brought about by photos rather than in the event taking place in the photos.
  • And see what software Russell is using in order to organize all his photos.

So listen here to find out what Russell believes is the secret to happiness, so you can get happy too.

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]]> 1014 no The Framework For Your Future Based Cause https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-framework-for-your-future-based-cause As I'm re-geeking out on Expert Secrets, let me show you something new that I found. On this episode Russell talks about re-writing the Expert Secrets book and how that lead him to doodle out the framework for a future based cause. Here are some of the awesome things he explains in this episode: How to build your own framework instead of teaching by just giving a mess of random information. And understanding what a future based cause is, with some examples from political elections. So listen here to find out how the updated version of the Expert Secrets book is going to be more clear and awesome than the old version before it actually comes out in May. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/265-the-framework-for-your-future-based-cause Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0000 The Framework For Your Future Based Cause full 265 Russell Brunson | YAP Media As I’m re-geeking out on Expert Secrets, let me show you something new that I found. As I'm re-geeking out on Expert Secrets, let me show you something new that I found. On this episode Russell talks about re-writing the Expert Secrets book and how that lead him to doodle out the framework for a future based cause. Here are some of the awesome things he explains in this episode: How to build your own framework instead of teaching by just giving a mess of random information. And understanding what a future based cause is, with some examples from political elections. So listen here to find out how the updated version of the Expert Secrets book is going to be more clear and awesome than the old version before it actually comes out in May. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/265-the-framework-for-your-future-based-cause Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As I'm re-geeking out on Expert Secrets, let me show you something new that I found.

On this episode Russell talks about re-writing the Expert Secrets book and how that lead him to doodle out the framework for a future based cause. Here are some of the awesome things he explains in this episode:

  • How to build your own framework instead of teaching by just giving a mess of random information.
  • And understanding what a future based cause is, with some examples from political elections.

So listen here to find out how the updated version of the Expert Secrets book is going to be more clear and awesome than the old version before it actually comes out in May.

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]]> 860 no On The Brighter Side With Collette (Part 4 of 4) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/on-the-brighter-side-with-collette-part-4-of-4 On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the second part of Collette's interview: How Collette feels about her life being documented in social media. How she feels about Russell saying she's the one who keeps him grounded. What some of the biggest blessings are to come from Russell's success. And what she project Collette is now working on to help support other wives, mothers, and women. So listen here to the exciting conclusion of Collette's interview with Monica in this 4 part series. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/264-on-the-brighter-side-with-collette-part-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0000 On The Brighter Side With Collette (Part 4 of 4) full 264 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Part 2 of Collette Brunson's interview with Monica Tanner from her "On The Brighter Side" podcast. On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the second part of Collette's interview: How Collette feels about her life being documented in social media. How she feels about Russell saying she's the one who keeps him grounded. What some of the biggest blessings are to come from Russell's success. And what she project Collette is now working on to help support other wives, mothers, and women. So listen here to the exciting conclusion of Collette's interview with Monica in this 4 part series. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/264-on-the-brighter-side-with-collette-part-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the second part of Collette's interview:

  • How Collette feels about her life being documented in social media.
  • How she feels about Russell saying she's the one who keeps him grounded.
  • What some of the biggest blessings are to come from Russell's success.
  • And what she project Collette is now working on to help support other wives, mothers, and women.

So listen here to the exciting conclusion of Collette's interview with Monica in this 4 part series.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/264-on-the-brighter-side-with-collette-part-4-of-4

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]]> 1080 no On The Brighter Side With Collette (Part 3 of 4) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/on-the-brighter-side-with-collette-part-3-of-4 On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the first part of Collette's interview: What Collette thought of Russell when they met, and how they ended up getting married. What Russell and Collette's younger years together were like, and how they struggled to start a family. The moment Collette first realized that Russell was such a big deal, and what she thought of it all. So listen here to the super interesting first part or Collette's interview with Monica in this 4 part series. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/263-on-the-brighter-side-with-collette-part-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0000 On The Brighter Side With Collette (Part 3 of 4) full 263 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Part 1 of Collette Brunson's interview with Monica Tanner from her "On The Brighter Side" podcast. On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the first part of Collette's interview: What Collette thought of Russell when they met, and how they ended up getting married. What Russell and Collette's younger years together were like, and how they struggled to start a family. The moment Collette first realized that Russell was such a big deal, and what she thought of it all. So listen here to the super interesting first part or Collette's interview with Monica in this 4 part series. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/263-on-the-brighter-side-with-collette-part-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the first part of Collette's interview:

  • What Collette thought of Russell when they met, and how they ended up getting married.
  • What Russell and Collette's younger years together were like, and how they struggled to start a family.
  • The moment Collette first realized that Russell was such a big deal, and what she thought of it all.

So listen here to the super interesting first part or Collette's interview with Monica in this 4 part series.

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]]> 1143 no On The Brighter Side With Russell (Part 2 of 4) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/on-the-brighter-side-with-russell-part-2-of-4 On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the second part of Russell's interview: Why it's okay to be afraid and to just move forward until you find your voice. Who Russell thinks is the coolest most influential person he's met as an entrepreneur. And why Russell credits Collette with keeping him humble and grounded. So listen here to the informative second part or Russell's interview with Monica in this 4 part series. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/262-on-the-brighter-side-with-russell-part-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:00:00 -0000 On The Brighter Side With Russell (Part 2 of 4) full 262 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Part 2 of Russell Brunson's interview with Monica Tanner from her "On The Brighter Side" podcast. On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the second part of Russell's interview: Why it's okay to be afraid and to just move forward until you find your voice. Who Russell thinks is the coolest most influential person he's met as an entrepreneur. And why Russell credits Collette with keeping him humble and grounded. So listen here to the informative second part or Russell's interview with Monica in this 4 part series. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/262-on-the-brighter-side-with-russell-part-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the second part of Russell's interview:

  • Why it's okay to be afraid and to just move forward until you find your voice.
  • Who Russell thinks is the coolest most influential person he's met as an entrepreneur.
  • And why Russell credits Collette with keeping him humble and grounded.

So listen here to the informative second part or Russell's interview with Monica in this 4 part series.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/262-on-the-brighter-side-with-russell-part-2-of-4

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]]> 1696 no On The Brighter Side With Russell (Part 1 of 4) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/on-the-brighter-side-with-russell-part-1-of-4 On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the first part of Russell's interview: Find out how Russell met Collette, and was able to snag such a catch. Hear about Russell's failures in business and how he was able to get past them. And see how Russell was able to overcome extreme introvertedness to become the amazing speaker that he is today. So listen here to the informative first part of Russell's interview with Monica in this 4 part series. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/261-on-the-brighter-side-with-russell-part-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 Nov 2019 09:00:00 -0000 On The Brighter Side With Russell (Part 1 of 4) full 261 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the first part of Russell's interview: Find out how Russell met Collette, and was able to snag such a catch. Hear about Russell's failures in business and how he was able to get past them. And see how Russell was able to overcome extreme introvertedness to become the amazing speaker that he is today. So listen here to the informative first part of Russell's interview with Monica in this 4 part series. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/261-on-the-brighter-side-with-russell-part-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this special 4 part series Russell shares 2 interviews from the On The Brighter Side podcast that he and his wife, Collette did with Monica Tanner. Here is what you will hear during the first part of Russell's interview:

  • Find out how Russell met Collette, and was able to snag such a catch.
  • Hear about Russell's failures in business and how he was able to get past them.
  • And see how Russell was able to overcome extreme introvertedness to become the amazing speaker that he is today.

So listen here to the informative first part of Russell's interview with Monica in this 4 part series.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/261-on-the-brighter-side-with-russell-part-1-of-4

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]]> 1591 no Try This Simple Test This Week To Change Everything https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/try-this-simple-test-this-week-to-change-everything I'm giving you a challenge, try this for the next couple days and see what happens. On this episode Russell talks about a podcast challenge he did several years ago about changing the way you respond when someone asks how you're doing. He issues a new similar challenge where you change the way you respond when someone asks you to do something for them. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Find out why changing the way you respond to someone can change your life and their life. Find out what kind of response you should give when someone asks you to do something. And see why Russell thinks this simple change can change everything. So listen here to find out how something so small has the possibility to shift your entire paradigm. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/260-try-this-simple-test-this-week-to-change-everything Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Try This Simple Test This Week To Change Everything full 260 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I’m giving you a challenge, try this for the next couple days and see what happens. I'm giving you a challenge, try this for the next couple days and see what happens. On this episode Russell talks about a podcast challenge he did several years ago about changing the way you respond when someone asks how you're doing. He issues a new similar challenge where you change the way you respond when someone asks you to do something for them. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Find out why changing the way you respond to someone can change your life and their life. Find out what kind of response you should give when someone asks you to do something. And see why Russell thinks this simple change can change everything. So listen here to find out how something so small has the possibility to shift your entire paradigm. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/260-try-this-simple-test-this-week-to-change-everything Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I'm giving you a challenge, try this for the next couple days and see what happens.

On this episode Russell talks about a podcast challenge he did several years ago about changing the way you respond when someone asks how you're doing. He issues a new similar challenge where you change the way you respond when someone asks you to do something for them. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode:

  • Find out why changing the way you respond to someone can change your life and their life.
  • Find out what kind of response you should give when someone asks you to do something.
  • And see why Russell thinks this simple change can change everything.

So listen here to find out how something so small has the possibility to shift your entire paradigm.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/260-try-this-simple-test-this-week-to-change-everything

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]]> 445 no Is It A Funnel Or An Hourglass? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/is-it-a-funnel-or-an-hourglass A message from Annie Grace about the deeper meaning behind a funnel. On today's episode Russell shares a video from his Inner Circle member Annie Grace about when she discovered the significance of a funnel versus an hourglass. Here are some of the awesome tidbits you will find in this episode: Find out why Annie Grace was discouraged when she realized she couldn't have an impact on everyone she wanted to. And see how realizing the significance of an hourglass versus a funnel helped her feel good about her level of impact. So listen here to find out what Annie Grace means when she says she's an hourglass. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/259-is-it-a-funnel-or-an-hourglass Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Nov 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Is It A Funnel Or An Hourglass? full 259 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A message from Annie Grace about the deeper meaning behind a funnel. A message from Annie Grace about the deeper meaning behind a funnel. On today's episode Russell shares a video from his Inner Circle member Annie Grace about when she discovered the significance of a funnel versus an hourglass. Here are some of the awesome tidbits you will find in this episode: Find out why Annie Grace was discouraged when she realized she couldn't have an impact on everyone she wanted to. And see how realizing the significance of an hourglass versus a funnel helped her feel good about her level of impact. So listen here to find out what Annie Grace means when she says she's an hourglass. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/259-is-it-a-funnel-or-an-hourglass Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A message from Annie Grace about the deeper meaning behind a funnel.

On today's episode Russell shares a video from his Inner Circle member Annie Grace about when she discovered the significance of a funnel versus an hourglass. Here are some of the awesome tidbits you will find in this episode:

  • Find out why Annie Grace was discouraged when she realized she couldn't have an impact on everyone she wanted to.
  • And see how realizing the significance of an hourglass versus a funnel helped her feel good about her level of impact.

So listen here to find out what Annie Grace means when she says she's an hourglass.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/259-is-it-a-funnel-or-an-hourglass

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]]> 603 no How To Remain Humble https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-remain-humble Don't drink your own kool-aid. On this episode Russell answers a community question live for the Marketing Secrets show. He will talk about how he remains humble as he runs a business worth nearly a billion dollars. Here are the five things he remembers in order to remain humble: You are called to serve. Realize it's not you. It can be taken away. None of it really matters. And do not pay attention to the fans. So listen here to find out what each of these things means to Russell, and how they help him stay humble. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/258-how-to-remain-humble Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 Nov 2019 09:00:00 -0000 How To Remain Humble full 258 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Don’t drink your own kool-aid. Don't drink your own kool-aid. On this episode Russell answers a community question live for the Marketing Secrets show. He will talk about how he remains humble as he runs a business worth nearly a billion dollars. Here are the five things he remembers in order to remain humble: You are called to serve. Realize it's not you. It can be taken away. None of it really matters. And do not pay attention to the fans. So listen here to find out what each of these things means to Russell, and how they help him stay humble. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/258-how-to-remain-humble Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Don't drink your own kool-aid.

On this episode Russell answers a community question live for the Marketing Secrets show. He will talk about how he remains humble as he runs a business worth nearly a billion dollars. Here are the five things he remembers in order to remain humble:

  • You are called to serve.
  • Realize it's not you.
  • It can be taken away.
  • None of it really matters.
  • And do not pay attention to the fans.

So listen here to find out what each of these things means to Russell, and how they help him stay humble.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/258-how-to-remain-humble

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]]> 687 no The Simplest Funnel Business Model https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-simplest-funnel-business-model What I would do if I was to start over today. On this episode Russell breaks down what kind of business he would run if was starting all over again from scratch. Here are some of the awesome things you'll here in today's episode: Find out why Russell's business model would be a lot simpler if he started all over. Find out who's business model Russell would choose to follow due to its simplicity. And see why a simple business model might be great for someone who is completely overwhelmed by what it takes to run a giant company. So listen here to see what a simpler business model consists of and if it might be right for your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/257-the-simplest-funnel-business-model Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:00:00 -0000 The Simplest Funnel Business Model full 257 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What I would do if I was to start over today. What I would do if I was to start over today. On this episode Russell breaks down what kind of business he would run if was starting all over again from scratch. Here are some of the awesome things you'll here in today's episode: Find out why Russell's business model would be a lot simpler if he started all over. Find out who's business model Russell would choose to follow due to its simplicity. And see why a simple business model might be great for someone who is completely overwhelmed by what it takes to run a giant company. So listen here to see what a simpler business model consists of and if it might be right for your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/257-the-simplest-funnel-business-model Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What I would do if I was to start over today.

On this episode Russell breaks down what kind of business he would run if was starting all over again from scratch. Here are some of the awesome things you'll here in today's episode:

  • Find out why Russell's business model would be a lot simpler if he started all over.
  • Find out who's business model Russell would choose to follow due to its simplicity.
  • And see why a simple business model might be great for someone who is completely overwhelmed by what it takes to run a giant company.

So listen here to see what a simpler business model consists of and if it might be right for your business.

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]]> 485 no Write Yourself A Swimming Pool https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/write-yourself-a-swimming-pool How to get your list to pay for the thing you really want in life. On this episode Russell talks about the importance of building your list so that when you want something you can send the bill to your herd. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out what it means to send the bill to your herd when you really want something. Why Russell wishes he'd never taught this concept to his wife, Collette, years ago. And find out who said they were going to "write themselves a swimming pool." So listen here to find out how you can get your tribe to pay for the things you really want. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/256-write-yourself-a-swimming-pool Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Nov 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Write Yourself A Swimming Pool full 256 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to get your list to pay for the thing you really want in life. How to get your list to pay for the thing you really want in life. On this episode Russell talks about the importance of building your list so that when you want something you can send the bill to your herd. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out what it means to send the bill to your herd when you really want something. Why Russell wishes he'd never taught this concept to his wife, Collette, years ago. And find out who said they were going to "write themselves a swimming pool." So listen here to find out how you can get your tribe to pay for the things you really want. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/256-write-yourself-a-swimming-pool Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to get your list to pay for the thing you really want in life.

On this episode Russell talks about the importance of building your list so that when you want something you can send the bill to your herd. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out what it means to send the bill to your herd when you really want something.
  • Why Russell wishes he'd never taught this concept to his wife, Collette, years ago.
  • And find out who said they were going to "write themselves a swimming pool."

So listen here to find out how you can get your tribe to pay for the things you really want.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/256-write-yourself-a-swimming-pool

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]]> 594 no How To Be Coached... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-be-coached If you really want to be successful, you need to learn how to be coached. On this episode Russell speaks directly to those of us who were a little hurt by his last episode about extreme ownership. He tells us why we feel the way we do, and what we need to do in order to become coachable. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in this episode: Why Russell thinks if you were hurt by the previous episode, you need to hear this message most. How Russell learned to be coachable. And why you need to become coachable in order to be successful. So listen here to find out if you are coachable, and what you need to do to become that way. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/255-how-to-be-coached Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 Nov 2019 09:00:00 -0000 How To Be Coached... full 255 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you really want to be successful, you need to learn how to be coached. If you really want to be successful, you need to learn how to be coached. On this episode Russell speaks directly to those of us who were a little hurt by his last episode about extreme ownership. He tells us why we feel the way we do, and what we need to do in order to become coachable. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in this episode: Why Russell thinks if you were hurt by the previous episode, you need to hear this message most. How Russell learned to be coachable. And why you need to become coachable in order to be successful. So listen here to find out if you are coachable, and what you need to do to become that way. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/255-how-to-be-coached Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you really want to be successful, you need to learn how to be coached.

On this episode Russell speaks directly to those of us who were a little hurt by his last episode about extreme ownership. He tells us why we feel the way we do, and what we need to do in order to become coachable. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in this episode:

  • Why Russell thinks if you were hurt by the previous episode, you need to hear this message most.
  • How Russell learned to be coachable.
  • And why you need to become coachable in order to be successful.

So listen here to find out if you are coachable, and what you need to do to become that way.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/255-how-to-be-coached

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]]> 1084 no Extreme Ownership, Russell's Rant... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/extreme-ownership-russells-rant Russell goes on a rant about "extreme ownership", mastering webinars, and a whole bunch more. On this special podcast within a podcast Russell goes on a rant about taking responsibility for your own business because he is not your savior, he is a leader. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Find out why Russell is going on a rant about taking ownership in making your business successful. See how you can model Russell's 12 month plan for financial success. And find out how you can get access to every single product Russell has done to be a master of the webinar. So listen here to find out why Russell decided to rant about taking responsibility for your success instead of blaming others for your failures. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/254-extreme-ownership-russell-s-rant Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Extreme Ownership, Russell's Rant... full 254 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell goes on a rant about “extreme ownership”, mastering webinars, and a whole bunch more. Russell goes on a rant about "extreme ownership", mastering webinars, and a whole bunch more. On this special podcast within a podcast Russell goes on a rant about taking responsibility for your own business because he is not your savior, he is a leader. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Find out why Russell is going on a rant about taking ownership in making your business successful. See how you can model Russell's 12 month plan for financial success. And find out how you can get access to every single product Russell has done to be a master of the webinar. So listen here to find out why Russell decided to rant about taking responsibility for your success instead of blaming others for your failures. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/254-extreme-ownership-russell-s-rant Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell goes on a rant about "extreme ownership", mastering webinars, and a whole bunch more.

On this special podcast within a podcast Russell goes on a rant about taking responsibility for your own business because he is not your savior, he is a leader. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell is going on a rant about taking ownership in making your business successful.
  • See how you can model Russell's 12 month plan for financial success.
  • And find out how you can get access to every single product Russell has done to be a master of the webinar.

So listen here to find out why Russell decided to rant about taking responsibility for your success instead of blaming others for your failures.

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]]> 2027 no 5 Years Ago Russell Sucked At Writing Books https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/5-years-ago-russell-sucked-at-writing-books Two big "ah-ha's" in this episode that will help you to continue to move forward. On this episode Russell talks about rewriting the Dotcom Secrets book before it is released in a box set with the other two books, and struggling to find the motivation to do it. He shares an exchange with Stephen Larsen over Voxer that helped him get back to writing. Here are some fun things in this episode. Find out why Russell's editing of Dotcom Secrets turned into a full rewrite. See why Stephen thinks Gary V. will win if Russell doesn't continue to write. And see that everyone in the business struggles at times, even after 15 years. So listen here and see that if you're struggling to stay motivated with whatever you're working on, you are not alone. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/253-5-years-ago-russell-sucked-at-writing-books Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:00:00 -0000 5 Years Ago Russell Sucked At Writing Books full 253 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Two big “ah-ha’s” in this episode that will help you to continue to move forward. Two big "ah-ha's" in this episode that will help you to continue to move forward. On this episode Russell talks about rewriting the Dotcom Secrets book before it is released in a box set with the other two books, and struggling to find the motivation to do it. He shares an exchange with Stephen Larsen over Voxer that helped him get back to writing. Here are some fun things in this episode. Find out why Russell's editing of Dotcom Secrets turned into a full rewrite. See why Stephen thinks Gary V. will win if Russell doesn't continue to write. And see that everyone in the business struggles at times, even after 15 years. So listen here and see that if you're struggling to stay motivated with whatever you're working on, you are not alone. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/253-5-years-ago-russell-sucked-at-writing-books Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Two big "ah-ha's" in this episode that will help you to continue to move forward.

On this episode Russell talks about rewriting the Dotcom Secrets book before it is released in a box set with the other two books, and struggling to find the motivation to do it. He shares an exchange with Stephen Larsen over Voxer that helped him get back to writing. Here are some fun things in this episode.

  • Find out why Russell's editing of Dotcom Secrets turned into a full rewrite.
  • See why Stephen thinks Gary V. will win if Russell doesn't continue to write.
  • And see that everyone in the business struggles at times, even after 15 years.

So listen here and see that if you're struggling to stay motivated with whatever you're working on, you are not alone.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/253-5-years-ago-russell-sucked-at-writing-books

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]]> 613 no An Instagram Hack... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/an-instagram-hack One way to make sure you are posting stuff that people will actually engage with. On today's episode Russell shares an Instagram hack from the upcoming Traffic Secrets book. Here are a few fun things from this episode: Find out how Instagram rewards those who do what they want them to do. Listen to an example of Russell using Instagram in a way that gets rewarded. And as a bonus, find out how Russell blocks out his calendar from most important to least important priorities. So listen here to get an inside look at Traffic Secrets with this awesome Instagram hack. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/252-an-instagram-hack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Oct 2019 08:00:00 -0000 An Instagram Hack... full 252 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One way to make sure you are posting stuff that people will actually engage with. One way to make sure you are posting stuff that people will actually engage with. On today's episode Russell shares an Instagram hack from the upcoming Traffic Secrets book. Here are a few fun things from this episode: Find out how Instagram rewards those who do what they want them to do. Listen to an example of Russell using Instagram in a way that gets rewarded. And as a bonus, find out how Russell blocks out his calendar from most important to least important priorities. So listen here to get an inside look at Traffic Secrets with this awesome Instagram hack. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/252-an-instagram-hack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One way to make sure you are posting stuff that people will actually engage with.

On today's episode Russell shares an Instagram hack from the upcoming Traffic Secrets book. Here are a few fun things from this episode:

  • Find out how Instagram rewards those who do what they want them to do.
  • Listen to an example of Russell using Instagram in a way that gets rewarded.
  • And as a bonus, find out how Russell blocks out his calendar from most important to least important priorities.

So listen here to get an inside look at Traffic Secrets with this awesome Instagram hack.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/252-an-instagram-hack

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]]> 649 no Going From A Millionaire To A Billionaire https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/going-from-a-millionaire-to-a-billionaire Why in the world did Russell shut down 5 million dollars of free money? On today's episode Russell plays a clip from Facebook Live of Peng Joon talking about the Inner Circle being paused, and what his biggest takeaway is. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: What a mastermind group is, and why it's basically free money for Russell. And what Peng means when he says in order to scale from a millionaire to a billionaire is about saying no. So listen here to Peng Joon give his perspective about why Russell would pause his $5 million a year Inner Circle. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/251-going-from-a-millionaire-to-a-billionaire Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Going From A Millionaire To A Billionaire full 251 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Why in the world did Russell shut down 5 million dollars of free money? Why in the world did Russell shut down 5 million dollars of free money? On today's episode Russell plays a clip from Facebook Live of Peng Joon talking about the Inner Circle being paused, and what his biggest takeaway is. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: What a mastermind group is, and why it's basically free money for Russell. And what Peng means when he says in order to scale from a millionaire to a billionaire is about saying no. So listen here to Peng Joon give his perspective about why Russell would pause his $5 million a year Inner Circle. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/251-going-from-a-millionaire-to-a-billionaire Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Why in the world did Russell shut down 5 million dollars of free money?

On today's episode Russell plays a clip from Facebook Live of Peng Joon talking about the Inner Circle being paused, and what his biggest takeaway is. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:

  • What a mastermind group is, and why it's basically free money for Russell.
  • And what Peng means when he says in order to scale from a millionaire to a billionaire is about saying no.

So listen here to Peng Joon give his perspective about why Russell would pause his $5 million a year Inner Circle.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/251-going-from-a-millionaire-to-a-billionaire

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]]> 634 no Why I'm "Pausing" The Inner Circle (Part 2 of 2) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-im-pausing-the-inner-circle-part-2-of-2 The second half of my conversation about why I decided to pause my Inner Circle. On today's episode hear how Russell came to the decision of pausing his inner circle group, and why it could help motivate you to look at what's most important in your life. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: What were Russell's reasons for pausing Inner Circle. Why we have to sometimes take a break from good things to focus on great things. And find out what will happen with inner Circle in the future. So listen here to this powerful episode about pausing inner circle to focus on other things, and why it's so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/250-why-i-m-pausing-the-inner-circle-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Oct 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Why I'm "Pausing" The Inner Circle (Part 2 of 2) full 250 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The second half of my conversation about why I decided to pause my Inner Circle. The second half of my conversation about why I decided to pause my Inner Circle. On today's episode hear how Russell came to the decision of pausing his inner circle group, and why it could help motivate you to look at what's most important in your life. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: What were Russell's reasons for pausing Inner Circle. Why we have to sometimes take a break from good things to focus on great things. And find out what will happen with inner Circle in the future. So listen here to this powerful episode about pausing inner circle to focus on other things, and why it's so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/250-why-i-m-pausing-the-inner-circle-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The second half of my conversation about why I decided to pause my Inner Circle.

On today's episode hear how Russell came to the decision of pausing his inner circle group, and why it could help motivate you to look at what's most important in your life. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • What were Russell's reasons for pausing Inner Circle.
  • Why we have to sometimes take a break from good things to focus on great things.
  • And find out what will happen with inner Circle in the future.

So listen here to this powerful episode about pausing inner circle to focus on other things, and why it's so important.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/250-why-i-m-pausing-the-inner-circle-part-2-of-2

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]]> 833 no Why I'm "Pausing" The Inner Circle (Part 1 of 2) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-im-pausing-the-inner-circle-part-1-of-2 I made an announcement last Friday about why I'm pausing the Inner Circle. This episode will explain why... On this episode Russell talks about the history of his inner circle group in the wake of deciding to pause it for a season. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on this episode: How Russell got started with Mastermind groups and what lead to him starting his own. Hear about the evolution of the inner circle group from it's beginnings as the Ignite program. And see where the inner circle group is now, just as Russell decides to take a pause from it. So listen here to find out how the inner circle began six years ago, and be sure to listen to the next episode to find out why Russell will be pausing it for a little while. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/249-why-i-m-pausing-the-inner-circle-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Oct 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Why I'm "Pausing" The Inner Circle (Part 1 of 2) full 249 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I made an announcement last Friday about why I'm pausing the Inner Circle. This episode will explain why... I made an announcement last Friday about why I'm pausing the Inner Circle. This episode will explain why... On this episode Russell talks about the history of his inner circle group in the wake of deciding to pause it for a season. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on this episode: How Russell got started with Mastermind groups and what lead to him starting his own. Hear about the evolution of the inner circle group from it's beginnings as the Ignite program. And see where the inner circle group is now, just as Russell decides to take a pause from it. So listen here to find out how the inner circle began six years ago, and be sure to listen to the next episode to find out why Russell will be pausing it for a little while. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/249-why-i-m-pausing-the-inner-circle-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I made an announcement last Friday about why I'm pausing the Inner Circle. This episode will explain why...

On this episode Russell talks about the history of his inner circle group in the wake of deciding to pause it for a season. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on this episode:

  • How Russell got started with Mastermind groups and what lead to him starting his own.
  • Hear about the evolution of the inner circle group from it's beginnings as the Ignite program.
  • And see where the inner circle group is now, just as Russell decides to take a pause from it.

So listen here to find out how the inner circle began six years ago, and be sure to listen to the next episode to find out why Russell will be pausing it for a little while.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/249-why-i-m-pausing-the-inner-circle-part-1-of-2

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]]> 809 no Entrepreneurial Scars - Have You Heard This One Yet? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/entrepreneurial-scars-have-you-heard-this-one-yet Why these things can and should move you forward as opposed to pulling you backwards. On this special replay episode of Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell talks about the inner battle entrepreneurs face with past regrets. Russell shares his own experiences and observations, including: Why the founding fathers gave us the gift of bankruptcy Why Russell spent an hour and a half on stage talking about his failures How Russell's "failures" qualified him to work with one of the world's top business consultants If you've ever gone through bankruptcy or messed up and done something stupid in your business, today's episode is for you. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/248-entrepreneurial-scars-have-you-heard-this-one-yet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 09 Oct 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Entrepreneurial Scars - Have You Heard This One Yet? full 248 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Why these things can and should move you forward as opposed to pulling you backwards. Why these things can and should move you forward as opposed to pulling you backwards. On this special replay episode of Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell talks about the inner battle entrepreneurs face with past regrets. Russell shares his own experiences and observations, including: Why the founding fathers gave us the gift of bankruptcy Why Russell spent an hour and a half on stage talking about his failures How Russell's "failures" qualified him to work with one of the world's top business consultants If you've ever gone through bankruptcy or messed up and done something stupid in your business, today's episode is for you. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/248-entrepreneurial-scars-have-you-heard-this-one-yet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Why these things can and should move you forward as opposed to pulling you backwards.

On this special replay episode of Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell talks about the inner battle entrepreneurs face with past regrets. Russell shares his own experiences and observations, including:

  • Why the founding fathers gave us the gift of bankruptcy
  • Why Russell spent an hour and a half on stage talking about his failures
  • How Russell's "failures" qualified him to work with one of the world's top business consultants

If you've ever gone through bankruptcy or messed up and done something stupid in your business, today's episode is for you.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/248-entrepreneurial-scars-have-you-heard-this-one-yet

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]]> 945 no Aggregate, The Secret Formula https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/aggregate-the-secret-formula The creation and aggregation process... On this episode Russell talks about what it means to aggregate information and turn it into something different, and how that is not the same thing as ripping somebody off. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Why taking pieces of information from different people and compiling it into something you make your own is different than stealing. Why studying information from several sources gives you a better overview of an entire topic. And how aggregating all the information you have learned, helps others who are learning from you. So listen here to find out how Russell aggregates information on different topics. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/247-aggregate-the-secret-formula Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Oct 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Aggregate, The Secret Formula full 247 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The creation and aggregation process… The creation and aggregation process... On this episode Russell talks about what it means to aggregate information and turn it into something different, and how that is not the same thing as ripping somebody off. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Why taking pieces of information from different people and compiling it into something you make your own is different than stealing. Why studying information from several sources gives you a better overview of an entire topic. And how aggregating all the information you have learned, helps others who are learning from you. So listen here to find out how Russell aggregates information on different topics. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/247-aggregate-the-secret-formula Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The creation and aggregation process...

On this episode Russell talks about what it means to aggregate information and turn it into something different, and how that is not the same thing as ripping somebody off. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:

  • Why taking pieces of information from different people and compiling it into something you make your own is different than stealing.
  • Why studying information from several sources gives you a better overview of an entire topic.
  • And how aggregating all the information you have learned, helps others who are learning from you.

So listen here to find out how Russell aggregates information on different topics.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/247-aggregate-the-secret-formula

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]]> 746 no THE TRAFFIC SECRETS BOOK IS DONE!!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-traffic-secrets-book-is-done Last night I had a chance to write the forward of the book, and this one is dedicated to... On today's episode Russell talks about finally submitting the manuscript of Traffic Secrets so that he can never touch it or change it again. Here are some of the things you will hear about in this episode: Find out why Russell rewrote the entire 2nd section before submitting the final manuscript. Hear the story about why Russell is so passionate about being proud of his work. And find out why Russell is hoping the Traffic Secrets book can help change millions of lives. So listen here to find out how the process of submitting the final manuscript of Traffic Secrets went. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/246-the-traffic-secrets-book-is-done Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 02 Oct 2019 08:00:00 -0000 THE TRAFFIC SECRETS BOOK IS DONE!!! full 246 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Last night I had a chance to write the forward of the book, and this one is dedicated to… Last night I had a chance to write the forward of the book, and this one is dedicated to... On today's episode Russell talks about finally submitting the manuscript of Traffic Secrets so that he can never touch it or change it again. Here are some of the things you will hear about in this episode: Find out why Russell rewrote the entire 2nd section before submitting the final manuscript. Hear the story about why Russell is so passionate about being proud of his work. And find out why Russell is hoping the Traffic Secrets book can help change millions of lives. So listen here to find out how the process of submitting the final manuscript of Traffic Secrets went. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/246-the-traffic-secrets-book-is-done Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Last night I had a chance to write the forward of the book, and this one is dedicated to...

On today's episode Russell talks about finally submitting the manuscript of Traffic Secrets so that he can never touch it or change it again. Here are some of the things you will hear about in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell rewrote the entire 2nd section before submitting the final manuscript.
  • Hear the story about why Russell is so passionate about being proud of his work.
  • And find out why Russell is hoping the Traffic Secrets book can help change millions of lives.

So listen here to find out how the process of submitting the final manuscript of Traffic Secrets went.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/246-the-traffic-secrets-book-is-done

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]]> 558 no DID YOU MISS IT?!?! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/did-you-miss-it The insider lessons that ONLY my hardcore funnel hackers saw. On this episode Russell talks about some people's reaction to the birthday launch campaign, and why they should be recognizing it for what it's worth. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out why some people think that the launch was annoying, and why Russell thinks they should be looking at it all differently. Why Russell believes this campaign is going to bring about hundreds of millions of dollars of valuation to Clickfunnels. And why this entire campaign is history in the making, and why you should take advantage of your front row seat. So listen here to find out why you shouldn't be annoyed when Russell markets to you, and should instead learn from what he's doing to have the fastest growing software company probably ever. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/245-did-you-miss-it Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:00:00 -0000 DID YOU MISS IT?!?! full 245 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The insider lessons that ONLY my hardcore funnel hackers saw. The insider lessons that ONLY my hardcore funnel hackers saw. On this episode Russell talks about some people's reaction to the birthday launch campaign, and why they should be recognizing it for what it's worth. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out why some people think that the launch was annoying, and why Russell thinks they should be looking at it all differently. Why Russell believes this campaign is going to bring about hundreds of millions of dollars of valuation to Clickfunnels. And why this entire campaign is history in the making, and why you should take advantage of your front row seat. So listen here to find out why you shouldn't be annoyed when Russell markets to you, and should instead learn from what he's doing to have the fastest growing software company probably ever. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/245-did-you-miss-it Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The insider lessons that ONLY my hardcore funnel hackers saw.

On this episode Russell talks about some people's reaction to the birthday launch campaign, and why they should be recognizing it for what it's worth. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why some people think that the launch was annoying, and why Russell thinks they should be looking at it all differently.
  • Why Russell believes this campaign is going to bring about hundreds of millions of dollars of valuation to Clickfunnels.
  • And why this entire campaign is history in the making, and why you should take advantage of your front row seat.

So listen here to find out why you shouldn't be annoyed when Russell markets to you, and should instead learn from what he's doing to have the fastest growing software company probably ever.

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]]> 803 no The Insane Aftermath Of The Birthday Launch https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-insane-aftermath-of-the-birthday-launch The software crashed, Facebook crashed, everything crashed... yet somehow, the show still went on. On today's episode Russell talks about how the big birthday announcement went. Here are some of the things he talks about that happened during the launch: What crashed just 30 minutes before the launch, and why they went live anyway. Find out how many people watched the announcements live. And find out what FunnelFlix is and how you can gain access to this amazing new thing. So listen here to find out some of the excruciating details of the birthday launch, and what actually changed with Clickfunnels itself. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/244-the-insane-aftermath-of-the-birthday-launch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:00:00 -0000 The Insane Aftermath Of The Birthday Launch full 244 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The software crashed, Facebook crashed, everything crashed… yet somehow, the show still went on. The software crashed, Facebook crashed, everything crashed... yet somehow, the show still went on. On today's episode Russell talks about how the big birthday announcement went. Here are some of the things he talks about that happened during the launch: What crashed just 30 minutes before the launch, and why they went live anyway. Find out how many people watched the announcements live. And find out what FunnelFlix is and how you can gain access to this amazing new thing. So listen here to find out some of the excruciating details of the birthday launch, and what actually changed with Clickfunnels itself. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/244-the-insane-aftermath-of-the-birthday-launch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The software crashed, Facebook crashed, everything crashed... yet somehow, the show still went on.

On today's episode Russell talks about how the big birthday announcement went. Here are some of the things he talks about that happened during the launch:

  • What crashed just 30 minutes before the launch, and why they went live anyway.
  • Find out how many people watched the announcements live.
  • And find out what FunnelFlix is and how you can gain access to this amazing new thing.

So listen here to find out some of the excruciating details of the birthday launch, and what actually changed with Clickfunnels itself.

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]]> 878 no The Buzz Behind The Birthday Announcement https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-buzz-behind-the-birthday-announcement Have you been watching the buzz that we've been creating? Listen in on my thoughts about what we're doing and why. On today's episode Russell recounts how an announcement he's making on Clickfunnels' 5 year birthday got so much buzz. Here are some of the exciting things you will hear in this episode: How so many rumors about an upcoming announcement came from a simple two minute video. What some of the rumors going around about Clickfunnels 5 year birthday announcement are. And how studying the story of P.T. Barnum helped Russell see why creating buzz would be a better way to make announcements. So listen here to see how so much buzz was created around this announcement, and don't forget to watch Facebook Live on Monday to find out what the announcement actually is. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/243-the-buzz-behind-the-birthday-announcement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Sep 2019 08:00:00 -0000 The Buzz Behind The Birthday Announcement full 243 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Have you been watching the buzz that we’ve been creating? Listen in on my thoughts about what we’re doing and why. Have you been watching the buzz that we've been creating? Listen in on my thoughts about what we're doing and why. On today's episode Russell recounts how an announcement he's making on Clickfunnels' 5 year birthday got so much buzz. Here are some of the exciting things you will hear in this episode: How so many rumors about an upcoming announcement came from a simple two minute video. What some of the rumors going around about Clickfunnels 5 year birthday announcement are. And how studying the story of P.T. Barnum helped Russell see why creating buzz would be a better way to make announcements. So listen here to see how so much buzz was created around this announcement, and don't forget to watch Facebook Live on Monday to find out what the announcement actually is. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/243-the-buzz-behind-the-birthday-announcement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Have you been watching the buzz that we've been creating? Listen in on my thoughts about what we're doing and why.

On today's episode Russell recounts how an announcement he's making on Clickfunnels' 5 year birthday got so much buzz. Here are some of the exciting things you will hear in this episode:

  • How so many rumors about an upcoming announcement came from a simple two minute video.
  • What some of the rumors going around about Clickfunnels 5 year birthday announcement are.
  • And how studying the story of P.T. Barnum helped Russell see why creating buzz would be a better way to make announcements.

So listen here to see how so much buzz was created around this announcement, and don't forget to watch Facebook Live on Monday to find out what the announcement actually is.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/243-the-buzz-behind-the-birthday-announcement

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]]> 1007 no 10 Years Ago In Fiji... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/10-years-ago-in-fiji My surprising transformation from my last trip to Fiji to this trip... On this special episode recorded in the Namale Resort in Fiji, Russell reflects on the last time he was there, and how different his life is than he had expected. Here are some of the cool things you will hear about on today's episode: Where Russell's business was when he first went to the Namale Resort ten years ago. What he thought he'd be doing in ten years, and how it's different from how it actually is. And why Russell and Tony Robbins both believe people overestimate what they are capable of doing in a year, and underestimate what they are capable of doing in a decade. So listen here to find out how Russell's expectations from ten years ago differ from his reality now. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/242-10-years-ago-in-fiji Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 18 Sep 2019 08:00:00 -0000 10 Years Ago In Fiji... full 242 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My surprising transformation from my last trip to Fiji to this trip… My surprising transformation from my last trip to Fiji to this trip... On this special episode recorded in the Namale Resort in Fiji, Russell reflects on the last time he was there, and how different his life is than he had expected. Here are some of the cool things you will hear about on today's episode: Where Russell's business was when he first went to the Namale Resort ten years ago. What he thought he'd be doing in ten years, and how it's different from how it actually is. And why Russell and Tony Robbins both believe people overestimate what they are capable of doing in a year, and underestimate what they are capable of doing in a decade. So listen here to find out how Russell's expectations from ten years ago differ from his reality now. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/242-10-years-ago-in-fiji Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My surprising transformation from my last trip to Fiji to this trip...

On this special episode recorded in the Namale Resort in Fiji, Russell reflects on the last time he was there, and how different his life is than he had expected. Here are some of the cool things you will hear about on today's episode:

  • Where Russell's business was when he first went to the Namale Resort ten years ago.
  • What he thought he'd be doing in ten years, and how it's different from how it actually is.
  • And why Russell and Tony Robbins both believe people overestimate what they are capable of doing in a year, and underestimate what they are capable of doing in a decade.

So listen here to find out how Russell's expectations from ten years ago differ from his reality now.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/242-10-years-ago-in-fiji

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]]> 802 no Strategic Chess Moves https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/strategic-chess-moves Are you watching the strategy behind what we're doing and why we're doing it? If not, start watching closer. On this episode Russell talks about making some strategic chess moves with Clickfunnels in the near future that won't make sense to people on the outside. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in today's episode: When you can look forward to some announcements from Clickfunnels, and why you should look at the underlying strategies. And hear an example of somebody else in the business that is also making strategic moves, and why Russell thinks they are doing it. So listen here to find out when Clickfunnels will be making some announcements, and find out why Russell wants you to look at the strategy behind it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/241-strategic-chess-moves Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Sep 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Strategic Chess Moves full 241 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Are you watching the strategy behind what we're doing and why we're doing it? If not, start watching closer. Are you watching the strategy behind what we're doing and why we're doing it? If not, start watching closer. On this episode Russell talks about making some strategic chess moves with Clickfunnels in the near future that won't make sense to people on the outside. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in today's episode: When you can look forward to some announcements from Clickfunnels, and why you should look at the underlying strategies. And hear an example of somebody else in the business that is also making strategic moves, and why Russell thinks they are doing it. So listen here to find out when Clickfunnels will be making some announcements, and find out why Russell wants you to look at the strategy behind it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/241-strategic-chess-moves Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Are you watching the strategy behind what we're doing and why we're doing it? If not, start watching closer.

On this episode Russell talks about making some strategic chess moves with Clickfunnels in the near future that won't make sense to people on the outside. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in today's episode:

  • When you can look forward to some announcements from Clickfunnels, and why you should look at the underlying strategies.
  • And hear an example of somebody else in the business that is also making strategic moves, and why Russell thinks they are doing it.

So listen here to find out when Clickfunnels will be making some announcements, and find out why Russell wants you to look at the strategy behind it.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/241-strategic-chess-moves

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]]> 770 no Without This, You're Guaranteed To Lose https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/without-this-youre-guaranteed-to-lose Without this one thing, he would never even let his wrestlers step on the mat. On today's episode Russell talks about a lesson he learned long ago from Dan Gable about knowing you're going to win, and how he applies it to his life today. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Why his daughter's soccer team didn't believe they could win, and how that effected the game. How hoping for success is giving yourself an excuse to fail. And how Russell applies one Dan Gable quote to his relationships, business, and when he competes in sports. So listen here to see why knowing you will be successful is the key to making it happen. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/240-without-this-you-re-guaranteed-to-lose Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Without This, You're Guaranteed To Lose full 240 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Without this one thing, he would never even let his wrestlers step on the mat. Without this one thing, he would never even let his wrestlers step on the mat. On today's episode Russell talks about a lesson he learned long ago from Dan Gable about knowing you're going to win, and how he applies it to his life today. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Why his daughter's soccer team didn't believe they could win, and how that effected the game. How hoping for success is giving yourself an excuse to fail. And how Russell applies one Dan Gable quote to his relationships, business, and when he competes in sports. So listen here to see why knowing you will be successful is the key to making it happen. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/240-without-this-you-re-guaranteed-to-lose Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Without this one thing, he would never even let his wrestlers step on the mat.

On today's episode Russell talks about a lesson he learned long ago from Dan Gable about knowing you're going to win, and how he applies it to his life today. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Why his daughter's soccer team didn't believe they could win, and how that effected the game.
  • How hoping for success is giving yourself an excuse to fail.
  • And how Russell applies one Dan Gable quote to his relationships, business, and when he competes in sports.

So listen here to see why knowing you will be successful is the key to making it happen.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/240-without-this-you-re-guaranteed-to-lose

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]]> 703 no Spend The Time To Make Your Art Sexy https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/spend-the-time-to-make-your-art-sexy Behind the scenes look at the creation of the art that sells the art. On today's episode Russell talks about the upcoming photo shoot for his Traffic Secrets book, and why we should put as much time and energy into the marketing of our art as we do into the art itself. Here are some of the fascinating things you will hear in this episode: Why watching Russell's Instagram, should give you an idea of how he has been marketing his book throughout the process of writing it. Why it is important for Russell to think about the marketing of his book before he has even finished writing it. And what kinds of things Russell is doing and has done for the last year to prepare for the launch of the Traffic Secrets book. So listen here to find out why you should be spending an equivalent amount of energy on making your art sexy, as you did creating the art in the first place. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/239-spend-the-time-to-make-your-art-sexy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Sep 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Spend The Time To Make Your Art Sexy full 239 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes look at the creation of the art that sells the art. Behind the scenes look at the creation of the art that sells the art. On today's episode Russell talks about the upcoming photo shoot for his Traffic Secrets book, and why we should put as much time and energy into the marketing of our art as we do into the art itself. Here are some of the fascinating things you will hear in this episode: Why watching Russell's Instagram, should give you an idea of how he has been marketing his book throughout the process of writing it. Why it is important for Russell to think about the marketing of his book before he has even finished writing it. And what kinds of things Russell is doing and has done for the last year to prepare for the launch of the Traffic Secrets book. So listen here to find out why you should be spending an equivalent amount of energy on making your art sexy, as you did creating the art in the first place. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/239-spend-the-time-to-make-your-art-sexy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes look at the creation of the art that sells the art.

On today's episode Russell talks about the upcoming photo shoot for his Traffic Secrets book, and why we should put as much time and energy into the marketing of our art as we do into the art itself. Here are some of the fascinating things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why watching Russell's Instagram, should give you an idea of how he has been marketing his book throughout the process of writing it.
  • Why it is important for Russell to think about the marketing of his book before he has even finished writing it.
  • And what kinds of things Russell is doing and has done for the last year to prepare for the launch of the Traffic Secrets book.

So listen here to find out why you should be spending an equivalent amount of energy on making your art sexy, as you did creating the art in the first place.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/239-spend-the-time-to-make-your-art-sexy

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]]> 645 no Stop Selling Through Significance https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/stop-selling-through-significance Selling through significance will stop your growth, selling through the success stories of your students will change everything. On this episode Russell talks about the difference between selling through significance and selling through the success stories of your students. Here are some of the insightful things to look for in this episode: Why selling through significance will only get you to a certain point, and why it makes your audience feel dirty. What it means to sell through the success stories of your students. And why sometimes when we start off selling with significance, and why we should move away from it as quickly as possible. So listen here to find out why selling with significance makes Russell and your audience cringe. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/238-stop-selling-through-significance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Stop Selling Through Significance full 238 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Selling through significance will stop your growth, selling through the success stories of your students will change everything. Selling through significance will stop your growth, selling through the success stories of your students will change everything. On this episode Russell talks about the difference between selling through significance and selling through the success stories of your students. Here are some of the insightful things to look for in this episode: Why selling through significance will only get you to a certain point, and why it makes your audience feel dirty. What it means to sell through the success stories of your students. And why sometimes when we start off selling with significance, and why we should move away from it as quickly as possible. So listen here to find out why selling with significance makes Russell and your audience cringe. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/238-stop-selling-through-significance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Selling through significance will stop your growth, selling through the success stories of your students will change everything.

On this episode Russell talks about the difference between selling through significance and selling through the success stories of your students. Here are some of the insightful things to look for in this episode:

  • Why selling through significance will only get you to a certain point, and why it makes your audience feel dirty.
  • What it means to sell through the success stories of your students.
  • And why sometimes when we start off selling with significance, and why we should move away from it as quickly as possible.

So listen here to find out why selling with significance makes Russell and your audience cringe.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/238-stop-selling-through-significance

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]]> 720 no TRAFFIC SECRETS!!! (A Sneak Peek...) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/traffic-secrets-a-sneak-peek Everyone's been begging me for a glimpse of Traffic Secrets, and while I can't show you the book, I will give you a sneak peek. On today's episode Russell gives an interesting sneak peek into his Traffic Secrets book which he is in the process of finishing. Look for these awesome things in this episode: What he has been doing over the last few days to finish the first draft of the book. What his plans for the cover to look like are. What each section of the book will be about and when it will finally be out for everyone to read. So listen here to get an amazing sneak peek into Russell's new upcoming book, Traffic Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/237-traffic-secrets-a-sneak-peek Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:00:00 -0000 TRAFFIC SECRETS!!! (A Sneak Peek...) full 237 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Everyone’s been begging me for a glimpse of Traffic Secrets, and while I can’t show you the book, I will give you a sneak peek. Everyone's been begging me for a glimpse of Traffic Secrets, and while I can't show you the book, I will give you a sneak peek. On today's episode Russell gives an interesting sneak peek into his Traffic Secrets book which he is in the process of finishing. Look for these awesome things in this episode: What he has been doing over the last few days to finish the first draft of the book. What his plans for the cover to look like are. What each section of the book will be about and when it will finally be out for everyone to read. So listen here to get an amazing sneak peek into Russell's new upcoming book, Traffic Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/237-traffic-secrets-a-sneak-peek Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Everyone's been begging me for a glimpse of Traffic Secrets, and while I can't show you the book, I will give you a sneak peek.

On today's episode Russell gives an interesting sneak peek into his Traffic Secrets book which he is in the process of finishing. Look for these awesome things in this episode:

  • What he has been doing over the last few days to finish the first draft of the book.
  • What his plans for the cover to look like are.
  • What each section of the book will be about and when it will finally be out for everyone to read.

So listen here to get an amazing sneak peek into Russell's new upcoming book, Traffic Secrets.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/237-traffic-secrets-a-sneak-peek

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]]> 883 no When The Pressure Goes Up... How To Survive https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/when-the-pressure-goes-up-how-to-survive Three things that I do to help survive and thrive when the stress and pressure of everything starts building. On this episode Russell talks about how he is surviving right now while pressure is high from writing a book, being a family man, and running a company. He gives three solid tips that will help anyone feeling similar pressure to get through it. Here are his three tips in this episode: Have a vision of what you want to accomplish. You have to create deadlines. You need to build out an amazing support team. So listen here to find out how to apply these tips into your life when the heat is on and you need to get stuff done. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/236-when-the-pressure-goes-up-how-to-survive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 28 Aug 2019 08:00:00 -0000 When The Pressure Goes Up... How To Survive full 236 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Three things that I do to help survive and thrive when the stress and pressure of everything starts building. Three things that I do to help survive and thrive when the stress and pressure of everything starts building. On this episode Russell talks about how he is surviving right now while pressure is high from writing a book, being a family man, and running a company. He gives three solid tips that will help anyone feeling similar pressure to get through it. Here are his three tips in this episode: Have a vision of what you want to accomplish. You have to create deadlines. You need to build out an amazing support team. So listen here to find out how to apply these tips into your life when the heat is on and you need to get stuff done. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/236-when-the-pressure-goes-up-how-to-survive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Three things that I do to help survive and thrive when the stress and pressure of everything starts building.

On this episode Russell talks about how he is surviving right now while pressure is high from writing a book, being a family man, and running a company. He gives three solid tips that will help anyone feeling similar pressure to get through it. Here are his three tips in this episode:

  • Have a vision of what you want to accomplish.
  • You have to create deadlines.
  • You need to build out an amazing support team.

So listen here to find out how to apply these tips into your life when the heat is on and you need to get stuff done.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/236-when-the-pressure-goes-up-how-to-survive

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]]> 916 no Five Good Friends To Crush Any Market https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/five-good-friends-to-crush-any-market A little piece of advice I gave a new entrepreneur 12 years ago that I want to give to you as well. On today's episode Russell talks about a conversation he had with Justin Brooke 12 years ago about how he would get back on top if he lost it all. He shares the advice he gave him back then because it is still relevant today. Here are some of the great things to look for in this episode: First hear how Russell and Justin know each other, and how this conversation came about. And find out why 5 good friends is better than 100,000 subscribers. So listen here to Russell explaining what he said to Justin in a random hotel room 12 years ago, and why it still applies to this day. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/235-five-good-friends-to-crush-any-market Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 26 Aug 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Five Good Friends To Crush Any Market full 235 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A little piece of advice I gave a new entrepreneur 12 years ago that I want to give to you as well. A little piece of advice I gave a new entrepreneur 12 years ago that I want to give to you as well. On today's episode Russell talks about a conversation he had with Justin Brooke 12 years ago about how he would get back on top if he lost it all. He shares the advice he gave him back then because it is still relevant today. Here are some of the great things to look for in this episode: First hear how Russell and Justin know each other, and how this conversation came about. And find out why 5 good friends is better than 100,000 subscribers. So listen here to Russell explaining what he said to Justin in a random hotel room 12 years ago, and why it still applies to this day. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/235-five-good-friends-to-crush-any-market Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A little piece of advice I gave a new entrepreneur 12 years ago that I want to give to you as well.

On today's episode Russell talks about a conversation he had with Justin Brooke 12 years ago about how he would get back on top if he lost it all. He shares the advice he gave him back then because it is still relevant today. Here are some of the great things to look for in this episode:

  • First hear how Russell and Justin know each other, and how this conversation came about.
  • And find out why 5 good friends is better than 100,000 subscribers.

So listen here to Russell explaining what he said to Justin in a random hotel room 12 years ago, and why it still applies to this day.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/235-five-good-friends-to-crush-any-market

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]]> 450 no Smashing The Frame Of Skepticism https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/smashing-the-frame-of-skepticism If you're not careful, this frame will 100% guarantee your failure. On this episode Russell responds to a Facebook post talking about being skeptical about his one funnel away challenge working. He goes into detail about how skepticism isn't doing you any favors in your business and why you should rid yourself of it. Here are some of the informative things in today's episode: Find out how Russell got over his own skepticism and why he thinks it is one of the worst personality traits. Hear why he thinks people who are skeptical will never be successful. And Find out how to ditch your own skepticism to allow yourself to have faith in what you are doing, and have success. So listen below to hear why being skeptical is guaranteed to hinder your own success. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/234-smashing-the-frame-of-skepticism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 21 Aug 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Smashing The Frame Of Skepticism full 234 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you’re not careful, this frame will 100% guarantee your failure. If you're not careful, this frame will 100% guarantee your failure. On this episode Russell responds to a Facebook post talking about being skeptical about his one funnel away challenge working. He goes into detail about how skepticism isn't doing you any favors in your business and why you should rid yourself of it. Here are some of the informative things in today's episode: Find out how Russell got over his own skepticism and why he thinks it is one of the worst personality traits. Hear why he thinks people who are skeptical will never be successful. And Find out how to ditch your own skepticism to allow yourself to have faith in what you are doing, and have success. So listen below to hear why being skeptical is guaranteed to hinder your own success. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/234-smashing-the-frame-of-skepticism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you're not careful, this frame will 100% guarantee your failure.

On this episode Russell responds to a Facebook post talking about being skeptical about his one funnel away challenge working. He goes into detail about how skepticism isn't doing you any favors in your business and why you should rid yourself of it. Here are some of the informative things in today's episode:

  • Find out how Russell got over his own skepticism and why he thinks it is one of the worst personality traits.
  • Hear why he thinks people who are skeptical will never be successful.
  • And Find out how to ditch your own skepticism to allow yourself to have faith in what you are doing, and have success.

So listen below to hear why being skeptical is guaranteed to hinder your own success.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/234-smashing-the-frame-of-skepticism

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]]> 638 no Success Shortcuts... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/success-shortcuts The fastest way to shortcut success in any area of your life. On this episode Russell talks about how having coaches in different parts of your life is like having a shortcut to success. Here are some of the insightful things you will hear in today's episode: Find out why watching his daughter have a one on one soccer practice made Russell remember that he needed more coaching in his life. Hear about why Russell and his wife Collette, still find it beneficial to go to a marriage retreat, even though they have had a mostly successful marriage for 17 years. And find out how Russell has been able to tune coaches out in wrestling and only listen when he needed them, and how that relates to his business life. So listen here to find out why getting coaching is basically a shortcut to success. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/233-success-shortcuts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Success Shortcuts... full 233 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The fastest way to shortcut success in any area of your life. The fastest way to shortcut success in any area of your life. On this episode Russell talks about how having coaches in different parts of your life is like having a shortcut to success. Here are some of the insightful things you will hear in today's episode: Find out why watching his daughter have a one on one soccer practice made Russell remember that he needed more coaching in his life. Hear about why Russell and his wife Collette, still find it beneficial to go to a marriage retreat, even though they have had a mostly successful marriage for 17 years. And find out how Russell has been able to tune coaches out in wrestling and only listen when he needed them, and how that relates to his business life. So listen here to find out why getting coaching is basically a shortcut to success. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/233-success-shortcuts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The fastest way to shortcut success in any area of your life.

On this episode Russell talks about how having coaches in different parts of your life is like having a shortcut to success. Here are some of the insightful things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Find out why watching his daughter have a one on one soccer practice made Russell remember that he needed more coaching in his life.
  • Hear about why Russell and his wife Collette, still find it beneficial to go to a marriage retreat, even though they have had a mostly successful marriage for 17 years.
  • And find out how Russell has been able to tune coaches out in wrestling and only listen when he needed them, and how that relates to his business life.

So listen here to find out why getting coaching is basically a shortcut to success.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/233-success-shortcuts

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]]> 647 no The Framework + The Four Secret Steps https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-framework-the-four-secret-steps The framework I use to build frameworks; and create content, courses and products. On this episode Russell gives an amazing run through how to teach with a framework of four simple steps. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: What it means to teach a framework. What the difference is between strategy and tactic. And why a webinar only has three steps instead of four, and which step you skip. So listen here to find out how to teach effectively. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/232-the-framework-the-four-secret-steps Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:00:00 -0000 The Framework + The Four Secret Steps full 232 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The framework I use to build frameworks; and create content, courses and products. The framework I use to build frameworks; and create content, courses and products. On this episode Russell gives an amazing run through how to teach with a framework of four simple steps. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: What it means to teach a framework. What the difference is between strategy and tactic. And why a webinar only has three steps instead of four, and which step you skip. So listen here to find out how to teach effectively. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/232-the-framework-the-four-secret-steps Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The framework I use to build frameworks; and create content, courses and products.

On this episode Russell gives an amazing run through how to teach with a framework of four simple steps. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:

  • What it means to teach a framework.
  • What the difference is between strategy and tactic.
  • And why a webinar only has three steps instead of four, and which step you skip.

So listen here to find out how to teach effectively.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/232-the-framework-the-four-secret-steps

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]]> 920 no Kids And Entrepreneurship (Part 3 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/kids-and-entrepreneurship-part-3-of-3 Kids, Business, Marriage - how do you do all the things? Get a glimpse during the last of this 3 part series on how to raise an entrepreneurial family! On today's super special episode, part three of three, Russell and his lovely wife, Collette are interviewed by Joshua and Ashley Latimer about being an entrepreneurial family. Here are the questions Russell and Collette answer in part three: What ways do you teach your kids about entrepreneurship and finances? What advice would you give a highly driven entrepreneurial family? How important is it to have a like minded community? So listen here to Russell and Collette as they answer these important questions. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/231-kids-and-entrepreneurship-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 12 Aug 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Kids And Entrepreneurship (Part 3 of 3) full 231 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Kids, Business, Marriage – how do you do all the things? Get a glimpse during the last of this 3 part series on how to raise an entrepreneurial family! Kids, Business, Marriage - how do you do all the things? Get a glimpse during the last of this 3 part series on how to raise an entrepreneurial family! On today's super special episode, part three of three, Russell and his lovely wife, Collette are interviewed by Joshua and Ashley Latimer about being an entrepreneurial family. Here are the questions Russell and Collette answer in part three: What ways do you teach your kids about entrepreneurship and finances? What advice would you give a highly driven entrepreneurial family? How important is it to have a like minded community? So listen here to Russell and Collette as they answer these important questions. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/231-kids-and-entrepreneurship-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Kids, Business, Marriage - how do you do all the things? Get a glimpse during the last of this 3 part series on how to raise an entrepreneurial family!

On today's super special episode, part three of three, Russell and his lovely wife, Collette are interviewed by Joshua and Ashley Latimer about being an entrepreneurial family. Here are the questions Russell and Collette answer in part three:

  • What ways do you teach your kids about entrepreneurship and finances?
  • What advice would you give a highly driven entrepreneurial family?
  • How important is it to have a like minded community?

So listen here to Russell and Collette as they answer these important questions.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/231-kids-and-entrepreneurship-part-3-of-3

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]]> 1329 no Interview With Collette On Our Family Culture (Part 2 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/interview-with-collette-on-our-family-culture-part-2-of-3 This is the second episode in an exciting series where you'll get a chance to meet my wife Collette and her views on running an entrepreneurial family. On today's super special episode, part two of three, Russell and his lovely wife, Collette are interviewed by Joshua and Ashley Latimer about what their family culture is like. Here are the questions Russell and Collette answer in part two: If you had to start over, what advice would you give your younger self? What does it mean to be a Brunson? How does your family stay motivated during tough times, and how do you reset? And What are some marriage and parenting systems that are working for you? So listen here to find out what it's like to be a Brunson by taking a sneak peek into their family culture. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/230-interview-with-collette-on-our-family-culture-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 07 Aug 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Interview With Collette On Our Family Culture (Part 2 of 3) full 230 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is the second episode in an exciting series where you’ll get a chance to meet my wife Collette and her views on running an entrepreneurial family. This is the second episode in an exciting series where you'll get a chance to meet my wife Collette and her views on running an entrepreneurial family. On today's super special episode, part two of three, Russell and his lovely wife, Collette are interviewed by Joshua and Ashley Latimer about what their family culture is like. Here are the questions Russell and Collette answer in part two: If you had to start over, what advice would you give your younger self? What does it mean to be a Brunson? How does your family stay motivated during tough times, and how do you reset? And What are some marriage and parenting systems that are working for you? So listen here to find out what it's like to be a Brunson by taking a sneak peek into their family culture. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/230-interview-with-collette-on-our-family-culture-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is the second episode in an exciting series where you'll get a chance to meet my wife Collette and her views on running an entrepreneurial family.

On today's super special episode, part two of three, Russell and his lovely wife, Collette are interviewed by Joshua and Ashley Latimer about what their family culture is like. Here are the questions Russell and Collette answer in part two:

  • If you had to start over, what advice would you give your younger self?
  • What does it mean to be a Brunson?
  • How does your family stay motivated during tough times, and how do you reset?
  • And What are some marriage and parenting systems that are working for you?

So listen here to find out what it's like to be a Brunson by taking a sneak peek into their family culture.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/230-interview-with-collette-on-our-family-culture-part-2-of-3

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]]> 1067 no You Asked For It! Interview With My WIFE! (Part 1 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/you-asked-for-it-interview-with-my-wife-part-1-of-3 The #1 request I get from our listeners is they want to hear behind the scenes from my wife's perspective on what it's like running an entrepreneurial family. On today's super special episode, part one of three, Russell and his lovely wife, Collette are interviewed by Joshua and Ashley Latimer about what it's like to be an entrepreneurial family. Here are the questions Russell and Collette answer in part one: What is the best/hardest thing about being an entrepreneur? How is it possible to aggressively pursue business dreams but still have a happy home life? And finally, they talk about one of the hardest times in their life and how they got through it together. So listen here to finally hear Collette give her first interview on what it's like to be married to Russell. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/229-229-you-asked-for-it-interview-with-my-wife-part-1-of-3-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 05 Aug 2019 08:00:00 -0000 You Asked For It! Interview With My WIFE! (Part 1 of 3) full 229 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The #1 request I get from our listeners is they want to hear behind the scenes from my wife’s perspective on what it’s like running an entrepreneurial family. The #1 request I get from our listeners is they want to hear behind the scenes from my wife's perspective on what it's like running an entrepreneurial family. On today's super special episode, part one of three, Russell and his lovely wife, Collette are interviewed by Joshua and Ashley Latimer about what it's like to be an entrepreneurial family. Here are the questions Russell and Collette answer in part one: What is the best/hardest thing about being an entrepreneur? How is it possible to aggressively pursue business dreams but still have a happy home life? And finally, they talk about one of the hardest times in their life and how they got through it together. So listen here to finally hear Collette give her first interview on what it's like to be married to Russell. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/229-229-you-asked-for-it-interview-with-my-wife-part-1-of-3-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The #1 request I get from our listeners is they want to hear behind the scenes from my wife's perspective on what it's like running an entrepreneurial family.

On today's super special episode, part one of three, Russell and his lovely wife, Collette are interviewed by Joshua and Ashley Latimer about what it's like to be an entrepreneurial family. Here are the questions Russell and Collette answer in part one:

  • What is the best/hardest thing about being an entrepreneur?
  • How is it possible to aggressively pursue business dreams but still have a happy home life?
  • And finally, they talk about one of the hardest times in their life and how they got through it together.

So listen here to finally hear Collette give her first interview on what it's like to be married to Russell.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/229-229-you-asked-for-it-interview-with-my-wife-part-1-of-3-part-1-of-3

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]]> 1320 no Winning Vs. Personal Development https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/winning-vs-personal-development An interesting analogy from the top soccer players in the world. On today's episode Russell talks about the way soccer works everywhere in the world with the exception of America, and how it relates to personal development within business. Here are some of the awesome tidbits to listen for in this episode: Why soccer in America is more focused on winning, while other countries are focused on the development of individual players. How personal development in soccer relates to the personal development of people in your team at your company. And why it's important to help your team develop instead of focusing solely on making money. So listen here to find out how business and soccer relate, and how personal development helps both of them in the long run. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/228-winning-vs-personal-development Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 31 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Winning Vs. Personal Development full 228 Russell Brunson | YAP Media An interesting analogy from the top soccer players in the world. An interesting analogy from the top soccer players in the world. On today's episode Russell talks about the way soccer works everywhere in the world with the exception of America, and how it relates to personal development within business. Here are some of the awesome tidbits to listen for in this episode: Why soccer in America is more focused on winning, while other countries are focused on the development of individual players. How personal development in soccer relates to the personal development of people in your team at your company. And why it's important to help your team develop instead of focusing solely on making money. So listen here to find out how business and soccer relate, and how personal development helps both of them in the long run. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/228-winning-vs-personal-development Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices An interesting analogy from the top soccer players in the world.

On today's episode Russell talks about the way soccer works everywhere in the world with the exception of America, and how it relates to personal development within business. Here are some of the awesome tidbits to listen for in this episode:

  • Why soccer in America is more focused on winning, while other countries are focused on the development of individual players.
  • How personal development in soccer relates to the personal development of people in your team at your company.
  • And why it's important to help your team develop instead of focusing solely on making money.

So listen here to find out how business and soccer relate, and how personal development helps both of them in the long run.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/228-winning-vs-personal-development

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]]> 640 no Why I Hate Running And What That Has To Do With Your Business https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-i-hate-running-and-what-that-has-to-do-with-your-business An interesting glimpse of why I struggle at running, and how it might relate to you if you're struggling in your business. On this episode Russell talks about running with Collette on his family reunion and realizing why he has always hated running. He relates hating running to the way other people hate running a business, and gives some helpful advice about how to enjoy the journey. Here are some of the awesome tidbits to listen for in today's episode: What made Russell realize the reason he hated running. How running is similar to running a business and why "looking at your feet" is the reason you aren't enjoying it. And why you have to train yourself to look up to be able to enjoy the journey of running a business. So listen here to find out why you need to stop looking at your feet while you run, just like Russell. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/227-why-i-hate-running-and-what-that-has-to-do-with-your-business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Why I Hate Running And What That Has To Do With Your Business full 227 Russell Brunson | YAP Media An interesting glimpse of why I struggle at running, and how it might relate to you if you’re struggling in your business. An interesting glimpse of why I struggle at running, and how it might relate to you if you're struggling in your business. On this episode Russell talks about running with Collette on his family reunion and realizing why he has always hated running. He relates hating running to the way other people hate running a business, and gives some helpful advice about how to enjoy the journey. Here are some of the awesome tidbits to listen for in today's episode: What made Russell realize the reason he hated running. How running is similar to running a business and why "looking at your feet" is the reason you aren't enjoying it. And why you have to train yourself to look up to be able to enjoy the journey of running a business. So listen here to find out why you need to stop looking at your feet while you run, just like Russell. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/227-why-i-hate-running-and-what-that-has-to-do-with-your-business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices An interesting glimpse of why I struggle at running, and how it might relate to you if you're struggling in your business.

On this episode Russell talks about running with Collette on his family reunion and realizing why he has always hated running. He relates hating running to the way other people hate running a business, and gives some helpful advice about how to enjoy the journey. Here are some of the awesome tidbits to listen for in today's episode:

  • What made Russell realize the reason he hated running.
  • How running is similar to running a business and why "looking at your feet" is the reason you aren't enjoying it.
  • And why you have to train yourself to look up to be able to enjoy the journey of running a business.

So listen here to find out why you need to stop looking at your feet while you run, just like Russell.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/227-why-i-hate-running-and-what-that-has-to-do-with-your-business

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]]> 536 no WARNING: Russell's List Building Rant https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/warning-russells-list-building-rant Behind the scene's access to a late night conversation with the two comma club coaching students. On this special episode Russell rants to his Two Comma Club X members about how to build a list and why it's so important. Here are some of the super awesome nuggets you'll be hearing about in this episode; Hear nearly a billion ways Russell has built his list over the years, and how you can use them as well. Find out why email lists are still the most important lists to build. And when creating a product, why listening to the market is key to giving them what they want. So listen here to to all Russell's creative and genius ways to build your list in the market of your choice. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/226-warning-russell-s-list-building-rant Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 WARNING: Russell's List Building Rant full 226 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scene’s access to a late night conversation with the two comma club coaching students. Behind the scene's access to a late night conversation with the two comma club coaching students. On this special episode Russell rants to his Two Comma Club X members about how to build a list and why it's so important. Here are some of the super awesome nuggets you'll be hearing about in this episode; Hear nearly a billion ways Russell has built his list over the years, and how you can use them as well. Find out why email lists are still the most important lists to build. And when creating a product, why listening to the market is key to giving them what they want. So listen here to to all Russell's creative and genius ways to build your list in the market of your choice. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/226-warning-russell-s-list-building-rant Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scene's access to a late night conversation with the two comma club coaching students.

On this special episode Russell rants to his Two Comma Club X members about how to build a list and why it's so important. Here are some of the super awesome nuggets you'll be hearing about in this episode;

  • Hear nearly a billion ways Russell has built his list over the years, and how you can use them as well.
  • Find out why email lists are still the most important lists to build.
  • And when creating a product, why listening to the market is key to giving them what they want.

So listen here to to all Russell's creative and genius ways to build your list in the market of your choice.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/226-warning-russell-s-list-building-rant

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]]> 4292 no Why You HAVE To Celebrate Others' Success https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-you-have-to-celebrate-others-success The #1 thing that might be keeping you from your own success, is your inability to celebrate others. On today's episode Russell talks about his reasoning for celebrating the success of others even if you don't feel they deserve it. He also discusses his summer schedule and why he can't wait for school to start again. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Why celebrating or complaining about others success seeps into your subconscious. Why you should never say a movie sucks. And why summertime is making Russell's body shut down from exhaustion. So listen here to find out how you can make success seep into your subconscious in a good way and help you become more successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/225-why-you-have-to-celebrate-others-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Why You HAVE To Celebrate Others' Success full 225 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The #1 thing that might be keeping you from your own success, is your inability to celebrate others. The #1 thing that might be keeping you from your own success, is your inability to celebrate others. On today's episode Russell talks about his reasoning for celebrating the success of others even if you don't feel they deserve it. He also discusses his summer schedule and why he can't wait for school to start again. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Why celebrating or complaining about others success seeps into your subconscious. Why you should never say a movie sucks. And why summertime is making Russell's body shut down from exhaustion. So listen here to find out how you can make success seep into your subconscious in a good way and help you become more successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/225-why-you-have-to-celebrate-others-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The #1 thing that might be keeping you from your own success, is your inability to celebrate others.

On today's episode Russell talks about his reasoning for celebrating the success of others even if you don't feel they deserve it. He also discusses his summer schedule and why he can't wait for school to start again. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Why celebrating or complaining about others success seeps into your subconscious.
  • Why you should never say a movie sucks.
  • And why summertime is making Russell's body shut down from exhaustion.

So listen here to find out how you can make success seep into your subconscious in a good way and help you become more successful.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/225-why-you-have-to-celebrate-others-success

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]]> 616 no Private Voxer Coaching Call (Listen In!!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/private-voxer-coaching-call-listen-in One of my friends is a new entrepreneur and asked a really good question, so Steve Larsen and I decided to tag team it for you!! On this episode Russell enlists the help of Stephen Larsen to talk to another friend of his about entrepreneurship and what he should be focusing on as he tries to figure out how to make and stick with a product. Here are some insightful things in today's episode: Why both Russell and Stephen believe Jaime is focusing on the wrong thing as he looks to start a business. How switching his focus from himself to his customers will help him find what he should be selling. And some final advice for finding fulfillment in entrepreneurship. So listen here as Russell and Stephen tell Jaime (and everyone else) how to best get started as an entrepreneur. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/224-private-voxer-coaching-call-listen-in Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Private Voxer Coaching Call (Listen In!!) full 224 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of my friends is a new entrepreneur and asked a really good question, so Steve Larsen and I decided to tag team it for you!! One of my friends is a new entrepreneur and asked a really good question, so Steve Larsen and I decided to tag team it for you!! On this episode Russell enlists the help of Stephen Larsen to talk to another friend of his about entrepreneurship and what he should be focusing on as he tries to figure out how to make and stick with a product. Here are some insightful things in today's episode: Why both Russell and Stephen believe Jaime is focusing on the wrong thing as he looks to start a business. How switching his focus from himself to his customers will help him find what he should be selling. And some final advice for finding fulfillment in entrepreneurship. So listen here as Russell and Stephen tell Jaime (and everyone else) how to best get started as an entrepreneur. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/224-private-voxer-coaching-call-listen-in Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of my friends is a new entrepreneur and asked a really good question, so Steve Larsen and I decided to tag team it for you!!

On this episode Russell enlists the help of Stephen Larsen to talk to another friend of his about entrepreneurship and what he should be focusing on as he tries to figure out how to make and stick with a product. Here are some insightful things in today's episode:

  • Why both Russell and Stephen believe Jaime is focusing on the wrong thing as he looks to start a business.
  • How switching his focus from himself to his customers will help him find what he should be selling.
  • And some final advice for finding fulfillment in entrepreneurship.

So listen here as Russell and Stephen tell Jaime (and everyone else) how to best get started as an entrepreneur.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/224-private-voxer-coaching-call-listen-in

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]]> 1688 no The Shocking Response From Lindsey Stirling... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-shocking-response-from-lindsey-stirling During my live on stage Q&A, I did not expect her to say this... On today's episode Russell shares an interview he did with Lindsey Stirling at Funnel Hacking Live 2019 and talks about what some of the things she said were and why he wasn't expecting it. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Why Lindsey thought that America's Got Talent was right about her not being good enough. Find out what Lindsey's book is about, and how it follows a theme of her life. And see why Lindsey is also involved in Operation Underground Railroad. So listen here to find out how Lindsey Stirling got started, and how her story is similar to that of an entrepreneur. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/223-the-shocking-response-from-lindsey-stirling Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 The Shocking Response From Lindsey Stirling... full 223 Russell Brunson | YAP Media During my live on stage Q&A, I did not expect her to say this… During my live on stage Q&A, I did not expect her to say this... On today's episode Russell shares an interview he did with Lindsey Stirling at Funnel Hacking Live 2019 and talks about what some of the things she said were and why he wasn't expecting it. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Why Lindsey thought that America's Got Talent was right about her not being good enough. Find out what Lindsey's book is about, and how it follows a theme of her life. And see why Lindsey is also involved in Operation Underground Railroad. So listen here to find out how Lindsey Stirling got started, and how her story is similar to that of an entrepreneur. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/223-the-shocking-response-from-lindsey-stirling Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices During my live on stage Q&A, I did not expect her to say this...

On today's episode Russell shares an interview he did with Lindsey Stirling at Funnel Hacking Live 2019 and talks about what some of the things she said were and why he wasn't expecting it. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why Lindsey thought that America's Got Talent was right about her not being good enough.
  • Find out what Lindsey's book is about, and how it follows a theme of her life.
  • And see why Lindsey is also involved in Operation Underground Railroad.

So listen here to find out how Lindsey Stirling got started, and how her story is similar to that of an entrepreneur.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/223-the-shocking-response-from-lindsey-stirling

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]]> 908 no The Two Shifts That Most People Missed... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-two-shifts-that-most-people-missed Two quick comments that Lindsey Stirling made at Funnel Hacking Live that could change your life. On today's episode Russell shares comments made by Lindsey Stirling at Funnel Hacking Live 2019, and how they relate to his own journey in marketing. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Hear Russell's perspective to comments Lindsey made at Funnel Hacking Live between songs. Find out how Lindsey got started on YouTube, and how it seems similar to things other marketers have probably done. And see why Lindsey and Russell both think that finding success can change who you are, and how they have been able to stay grounded. So listen here to find out how Lindsey Stirling has found success, and why her journey seems so familiar. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/222-the-two-shifts-that-most-people-missed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 The Two Shifts That Most People Missed... full 222 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Two quick comments that Lindsey Stirling made at Funnel Hacking Live that could change your life. Two quick comments that Lindsey Stirling made at Funnel Hacking Live that could change your life. On today's episode Russell shares comments made by Lindsey Stirling at Funnel Hacking Live 2019, and how they relate to his own journey in marketing. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Hear Russell's perspective to comments Lindsey made at Funnel Hacking Live between songs. Find out how Lindsey got started on YouTube, and how it seems similar to things other marketers have probably done. And see why Lindsey and Russell both think that finding success can change who you are, and how they have been able to stay grounded. So listen here to find out how Lindsey Stirling has found success, and why her journey seems so familiar. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/222-the-two-shifts-that-most-people-missed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Two quick comments that Lindsey Stirling made at Funnel Hacking Live that could change your life.

On today's episode Russell shares comments made by Lindsey Stirling at Funnel Hacking Live 2019, and how they relate to his own journey in marketing. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Hear Russell's perspective to comments Lindsey made at Funnel Hacking Live between songs.
  • Find out how Lindsey got started on YouTube, and how it seems similar to things other marketers have probably done.
  • And see why Lindsey and Russell both think that finding success can change who you are, and how they have been able to stay grounded.

So listen here to find out how Lindsey Stirling has found success, and why her journey seems so familiar.

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]]> 852 no Mindset When Your Funnel Flops https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/mindset-when-your-funnel-flops How to prepare yourself mentally when launching your funnel! On this episode Russell talks about how to prepare yourself for when you launch a new funnel and it flops. Here are some of the awesome tips he gives in today's episode: Why you should never "call your shot" to family and friends. Why you need to be okay with it if your funnel doesn't work the way you wanted. And find out when you should finally tell your family and friends about your funnel. So listen here to find out how Russell takes some pressure off of launching funnels by not telling the whole world about it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/221-mindset-when-your-funnel-flops Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Mindset When Your Funnel Flops full 221 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to prepare yourself mentally when launching your funnel! How to prepare yourself mentally when launching your funnel! On this episode Russell talks about how to prepare yourself for when you launch a new funnel and it flops. Here are some of the awesome tips he gives in today's episode: Why you should never "call your shot" to family and friends. Why you need to be okay with it if your funnel doesn't work the way you wanted. And find out when you should finally tell your family and friends about your funnel. So listen here to find out how Russell takes some pressure off of launching funnels by not telling the whole world about it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/221-mindset-when-your-funnel-flops Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to prepare yourself mentally when launching your funnel!

On this episode Russell talks about how to prepare yourself for when you launch a new funnel and it flops. Here are some of the awesome tips he gives in today's episode:

  • Why you should never "call your shot" to family and friends.
  • Why you need to be okay with it if your funnel doesn't work the way you wanted.
  • And find out when you should finally tell your family and friends about your funnel.

So listen here to find out how Russell takes some pressure off of launching funnels by not telling the whole world about it.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/221-mindset-when-your-funnel-flops

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]]> 939 no How To Paint Your Vivid Vision https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-paint-your-vivid-vision The secret to getting your audience to experience you result before you ever give it to them. On today's episode Russell talks about the reason he recently purchased a penthouse, and how it made him realize how beneficial painting a vivid vision for customers can be. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in this episode: How Dave Woodward was able to convince Russell to buy a penthouse in downtown Boise with just one phrase. Why painting a vivid picture makes selling so much easier. And how you can use vivid visualization in your business. So listen here to find out why being able to paint vivid visions for your customers can be so beneficial in your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/220-how-to-paint-your-vivid-vision Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 How To Paint Your Vivid Vision full 220 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The secret to getting your audience to experience you result before you ever give it to them. The secret to getting your audience to experience you result before you ever give it to them. On today's episode Russell talks about the reason he recently purchased a penthouse, and how it made him realize how beneficial painting a vivid vision for customers can be. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in this episode: How Dave Woodward was able to convince Russell to buy a penthouse in downtown Boise with just one phrase. Why painting a vivid picture makes selling so much easier. And how you can use vivid visualization in your business. So listen here to find out why being able to paint vivid visions for your customers can be so beneficial in your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/220-how-to-paint-your-vivid-vision Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The secret to getting your audience to experience you result before you ever give it to them.

On today's episode Russell talks about the reason he recently purchased a penthouse, and how it made him realize how beneficial painting a vivid vision for customers can be. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in this episode:

  • How Dave Woodward was able to convince Russell to buy a penthouse in downtown Boise with just one phrase.
  • Why painting a vivid picture makes selling so much easier.
  • And how you can use vivid visualization in your business.

So listen here to find out why being able to paint vivid visions for your customers can be so beneficial in your business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/220-how-to-paint-your-vivid-vision

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]]> 633 no Unlock The Secrets https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/unlock-the-secrets Behind the scenes glimpse of what this event is and why I created it. On today's episode Russell talks about the upcoming Unlock the Secrets event and why he has decided to make it his flagship event. Here are some of the interesting things in this episode: What a flagship event is and how it's different than Funnel Hacking Live. What kind of event it will be, and who gets to come to it, and why it can't just be Russell standing up and speaking for 3 days. And hear what one of the modules from the event will be like. So listen here to find out what Russell's new flagship event will be like, and how it's different than events he's done in the past. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/219-unlock-the-secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 01 Jul 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Unlock The Secrets full 219 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes glimpse of what this event is and why I created it. Behind the scenes glimpse of what this event is and why I created it. On today's episode Russell talks about the upcoming Unlock the Secrets event and why he has decided to make it his flagship event. Here are some of the interesting things in this episode: What a flagship event is and how it's different than Funnel Hacking Live. What kind of event it will be, and who gets to come to it, and why it can't just be Russell standing up and speaking for 3 days. And hear what one of the modules from the event will be like. So listen here to find out what Russell's new flagship event will be like, and how it's different than events he's done in the past. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/219-unlock-the-secrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes glimpse of what this event is and why I created it.

On today's episode Russell talks about the upcoming Unlock the Secrets event and why he has decided to make it his flagship event. Here are some of the interesting things in this episode:

  • What a flagship event is and how it's different than Funnel Hacking Live.
  • What kind of event it will be, and who gets to come to it, and why it can't just be Russell standing up and speaking for 3 days.
  • And hear what one of the modules from the event will be like.

So listen here to find out what Russell's new flagship event will be like, and how it's different than events he's done in the past.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/219-unlock-the-secrets

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]]> 686 no A Sneaky Productivity Hack To Get Your Crap Done https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-sneaky-productivity-hack-to-get-your-crap-done Something I did this week to get two days worth of writing done in less than two hours. On this episode Russell talks about writing his upcoming Traffic Secrets book and how he's been doubling his productivity levels the last week. Here are some awesome things to look for in today's episode: Why writing a book is painful and people gravitate toward pleasure rather than pain. How Russell has managed to change the way he sits down to write and double his productivity. And how you can use Russell's technique in your own life to get crap done. So listen here to find out about Russell's sneaky hack to help get stuff done faster. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/218-a-sneaky-productivity-hack-to-get-your-crap-done Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Jun 2019 08:00:00 -0000 A Sneaky Productivity Hack To Get Your Crap Done full 218 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Something I did this week to get two days worth of writing done in less than two hours. Something I did this week to get two days worth of writing done in less than two hours. On this episode Russell talks about writing his upcoming Traffic Secrets book and how he's been doubling his productivity levels the last week. Here are some awesome things to look for in today's episode: Why writing a book is painful and people gravitate toward pleasure rather than pain. How Russell has managed to change the way he sits down to write and double his productivity. And how you can use Russell's technique in your own life to get crap done. So listen here to find out about Russell's sneaky hack to help get stuff done faster. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/218-a-sneaky-productivity-hack-to-get-your-crap-done Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Something I did this week to get two days worth of writing done in less than two hours.

On this episode Russell talks about writing his upcoming Traffic Secrets book and how he's been doubling his productivity levels the last week. Here are some awesome things to look for in today's episode:

  • Why writing a book is painful and people gravitate toward pleasure rather than pain.
  • How Russell has managed to change the way he sits down to write and double his productivity.
  • And how you can use Russell's technique in your own life to get crap done.

So listen here to find out about Russell's sneaky hack to help get stuff done faster.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/218-a-sneaky-productivity-hack-to-get-your-crap-done

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]]> 600 no Funnel Hacking Revisited https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-revisited After a full day of funnel hacking over 300+ funnels, I want to walk you through what funnel hacking is again and make sure you're doing it right. On this episode Russell talks about the difference between stealing and pulling inspiration while building funnels. Here are some of the interesting things to look forward to in this episode: Why copying is stealing, but modeling and taking inspiration is not. How taking inspiration from several different sources and not copying anything is exactly is the proper way to funnel hack. And what Brendon Burchard said about how he avoids accidentally taking other people's ideas. So listen here to find out the difference in the right way to funnel hack, and the wrong way to funnel hack. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/217-funnel-hacking-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 24 Jun 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Revisited full 217 Russell Brunson | YAP Media After a full day of funnel hacking over 300+ funnels, I want to walk you through what funnel hacking is again and make sure you’re doing it right. After a full day of funnel hacking over 300+ funnels, I want to walk you through what funnel hacking is again and make sure you're doing it right. On this episode Russell talks about the difference between stealing and pulling inspiration while building funnels. Here are some of the interesting things to look forward to in this episode: Why copying is stealing, but modeling and taking inspiration is not. How taking inspiration from several different sources and not copying anything is exactly is the proper way to funnel hack. And what Brendon Burchard said about how he avoids accidentally taking other people's ideas. So listen here to find out the difference in the right way to funnel hack, and the wrong way to funnel hack. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/217-funnel-hacking-revisited Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices After a full day of funnel hacking over 300+ funnels, I want to walk you through what funnel hacking is again and make sure you're doing it right.

On this episode Russell talks about the difference between stealing and pulling inspiration while building funnels. Here are some of the interesting things to look forward to in this episode:

  • Why copying is stealing, but modeling and taking inspiration is not.
  • How taking inspiration from several different sources and not copying anything is exactly is the proper way to funnel hack.
  • And what Brendon Burchard said about how he avoids accidentally taking other people's ideas.

So listen here to find out the difference in the right way to funnel hack, and the wrong way to funnel hack.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/217-funnel-hacking-revisited

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]]> 1045 no My First Podcast LIVE From My Tesla!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-first-podcast-live-from-my-tesla A, B, and C students and how they sync in life... On this special episode Russell talks about A, B, and C students and what kind of workers they are from the driver's seat of his new Tesla. Here are some of the insightful things on this episode: Find out why A students are workers, B students are managers, and C students are strategic thinkers. See why each of the categories are key to running your business and why none are better than the others. And see which of those categories Russell believes his own wife, Collette, falls under. So listen here to find out which category you fall under, and what that means you need for your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/216-my-first-podcast-live-from-my-tesla Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Jun 2019 08:00:00 -0000 My First Podcast LIVE From My Tesla!! full 216 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A, B, and C students and how they sync in life… A, B, and C students and how they sync in life... On this special episode Russell talks about A, B, and C students and what kind of workers they are from the driver's seat of his new Tesla. Here are some of the insightful things on this episode: Find out why A students are workers, B students are managers, and C students are strategic thinkers. See why each of the categories are key to running your business and why none are better than the others. And see which of those categories Russell believes his own wife, Collette, falls under. So listen here to find out which category you fall under, and what that means you need for your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/216-my-first-podcast-live-from-my-tesla Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A, B, and C students and how they sync in life...

On this special episode Russell talks about A, B, and C students and what kind of workers they are from the driver's seat of his new Tesla. Here are some of the insightful things on this episode:

  • Find out why A students are workers, B students are managers, and C students are strategic thinkers.
  • See why each of the categories are key to running your business and why none are better than the others.
  • And see which of those categories Russell believes his own wife, Collette, falls under.

So listen here to find out which category you fall under, and what that means you need for your business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/216-my-first-podcast-live-from-my-tesla

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]]> 906 no The Primary Question That Fuels Your Value Ladder https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-primary-question-that-fuels-your-value-ladder How asking the correct primary question could lead to a two comma club funnel and a fully fleshed out value ladder! On this episode Russell talks about discovering a concept that could help create an entire multi-million dollar a year company. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode: Why basing your business on one primary question can help you with all the product creation. How this one question makes finding a hook and story easier. And hear examples of how you can use the primary question strategy with your own business. So listen here to find out how asking the right, really good question, could be the foundation to your entire business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/215-the-primary-question-that-fuels-your-value-ladder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 Jun 2019 08:00:00 -0000 The Primary Question That Fuels Your Value Ladder full 215 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How asking the correct primary question could lead to a two comma club funnel and a fully fleshed out value ladder! How asking the correct primary question could lead to a two comma club funnel and a fully fleshed out value ladder! On this episode Russell talks about discovering a concept that could help create an entire multi-million dollar a year company. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode: Why basing your business on one primary question can help you with all the product creation. How this one question makes finding a hook and story easier. And hear examples of how you can use the primary question strategy with your own business. So listen here to find out how asking the right, really good question, could be the foundation to your entire business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/215-the-primary-question-that-fuels-your-value-ladder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How asking the correct primary question could lead to a two comma club funnel and a fully fleshed out value ladder!

On this episode Russell talks about discovering a concept that could help create an entire multi-million dollar a year company. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode:

  • Why basing your business on one primary question can help you with all the product creation.
  • How this one question makes finding a hook and story easier.
  • And hear examples of how you can use the primary question strategy with your own business.

So listen here to find out how asking the right, really good question, could be the foundation to your entire business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/215-the-primary-question-that-fuels-your-value-ladder

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]]> 1091 no Your Secret Framework https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/your-secret-framework The process I use to write books, create courses, teach seminars, and to grow Clickfunnels. On this episode Russell takes a break from his family vacation on Lake Powell to talk about why having a framework is so important. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in today's episode: What a framework is and how it can help you teach a concept in just an hour or even a three day event. How having a framework can help you figure out what it is you are teaching or selling. And why a framework is how Clickfunnels beats its competitors. So listen here to find out how Russell uses frameworks in his business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/214-your-secret-framework Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Jun 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Your Secret Framework full 214 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The process I use to write books, create courses, teach seminars, and to grow Clickfunnels. The process I use to write books, create courses, teach seminars, and to grow Clickfunnels. On this episode Russell takes a break from his family vacation on Lake Powell to talk about why having a framework is so important. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in today's episode: What a framework is and how it can help you teach a concept in just an hour or even a three day event. How having a framework can help you figure out what it is you are teaching or selling. And why a framework is how Clickfunnels beats its competitors. So listen here to find out how Russell uses frameworks in his business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/214-your-secret-framework Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The process I use to write books, create courses, teach seminars, and to grow Clickfunnels.

On this episode Russell takes a break from his family vacation on Lake Powell to talk about why having a framework is so important. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in today's episode:

  • What a framework is and how it can help you teach a concept in just an hour or even a three day event.
  • How having a framework can help you figure out what it is you are teaching or selling.
  • And why a framework is how Clickfunnels beats its competitors.

So listen here to find out how Russell uses frameworks in his business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/214-your-secret-framework

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]]> 674 no Story Trumping https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/story-trumping How to rewrite the story in the minds of your customers, your friends, your family, and maybe even your spouse. On today's episode Russell talks about his ability to tell stories that trump other people's and that's how he's been able to sell everything. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out why storytelling is so important to getting people to rewrite their own stories and believe your truth. Find out what the difference is between better story telling and one upping someone else's story. And see why practicing better story telling in all aspects of your life will help you be a better story teller with your business. So listen here to find out how you can become a better story teller, to trump your customer's story. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/213-story-trumping Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 Jun 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Story Trumping full 213 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to rewrite the story in the minds of your customers, your friends, your family, and maybe even your spouse. How to rewrite the story in the minds of your customers, your friends, your family, and maybe even your spouse. On today's episode Russell talks about his ability to tell stories that trump other people's and that's how he's been able to sell everything. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out why storytelling is so important to getting people to rewrite their own stories and believe your truth. Find out what the difference is between better story telling and one upping someone else's story. And see why practicing better story telling in all aspects of your life will help you be a better story teller with your business. So listen here to find out how you can become a better story teller, to trump your customer's story. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/213-story-trumping Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to rewrite the story in the minds of your customers, your friends, your family, and maybe even your spouse.

On today's episode Russell talks about his ability to tell stories that trump other people's and that's how he's been able to sell everything. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why storytelling is so important to getting people to rewrite their own stories and believe your truth.
  • Find out what the difference is between better story telling and one upping someone else's story.
  • And see why practicing better story telling in all aspects of your life will help you be a better story teller with your business.

So listen here to find out how you can become a better story teller, to trump your customer's story.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/213-story-trumping

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]]> 694 no Q&A With The Kids https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-with-the-kids Behind the scenes conversation with a bunch of young entrepreneurs. On today's episode, Russell talks to a class of young entrepreneurs about what it's like to start and run your own business. Here are some of the fun things in today's episode: How he got started with his first business of potato guns! He talks about what are the hardest, easiest, and best parts of being an entrepreneur. They discuss how risk is like riding a teeter-totter on a cliff... So listen here to enjoy this special, fun episode where Russell talks to kids about entrepreneurship. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/212-q-a-with-the-kids Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Jun 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Q&A With The Kids full 212 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes conversation with a bunch of young entrepreneurs. Behind the scenes conversation with a bunch of young entrepreneurs. On today's episode, Russell talks to a class of young entrepreneurs about what it's like to start and run your own business. Here are some of the fun things in today's episode: How he got started with his first business of potato guns! He talks about what are the hardest, easiest, and best parts of being an entrepreneur. They discuss how risk is like riding a teeter-totter on a cliff... So listen here to enjoy this special, fun episode where Russell talks to kids about entrepreneurship. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/212-q-a-with-the-kids Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes conversation with a bunch of young entrepreneurs.

On today's episode, Russell talks to a class of young entrepreneurs about what it's like to start and run your own business. Here are some of the fun things in today's episode:

  • How he got started with his first business of potato guns!
  • He talks about what are the hardest, easiest, and best parts of being an entrepreneur.
  • They discuss how risk is like riding a teeter-totter on a cliff...

So listen here to enjoy this special, fun episode where Russell talks to kids about entrepreneurship.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/212-q-a-with-the-kids

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]]> 2698 no This Is Where You Find Out If You Really Believe Your Message Is True https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/this-is-where-you-find-out-if-you-really-believe-your-message-is-true What happens when the opposition starts trying to keep you from sharing your message with the world. On today's episode Russell talks about his response to a Buzzfeed article defacing Tony Robbins and how it started a couple of weeks of the internet being extra mean to him, and how he dealt with everything. Here are some of the crazy things in this episode: Find out why Russell had to come to Tony Robbin's defense on Facebook. Hear how Russell claps back at someone who attacked his business model. And see why really believing your own message can help you get through the noise of people who try to tear you down online. So listen here to to some of Russell's insightful and helpful tips to keep beating your drum even when the opposition grows really loud. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/211-this-is-where-you-find-out-if-you-really-believe-your-message-is-true Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 Jun 2019 08:00:00 -0000 This Is Where You Find Out If You Really Believe Your Message Is True full 211 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What happens when the opposition starts trying to keep you from sharing your message with the world. What happens when the opposition starts trying to keep you from sharing your message with the world. On today's episode Russell talks about his response to a Buzzfeed article defacing Tony Robbins and how it started a couple of weeks of the internet being extra mean to him, and how he dealt with everything. Here are some of the crazy things in this episode: Find out why Russell had to come to Tony Robbin's defense on Facebook. Hear how Russell claps back at someone who attacked his business model. And see why really believing your own message can help you get through the noise of people who try to tear you down online. So listen here to to some of Russell's insightful and helpful tips to keep beating your drum even when the opposition grows really loud. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/211-this-is-where-you-find-out-if-you-really-believe-your-message-is-true Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What happens when the opposition starts trying to keep you from sharing your message with the world.

On today's episode Russell talks about his response to a Buzzfeed article defacing Tony Robbins and how it started a couple of weeks of the internet being extra mean to him, and how he dealt with everything. Here are some of the crazy things in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell had to come to Tony Robbin's defense on Facebook.
  • Hear how Russell claps back at someone who attacked his business model.
  • And see why really believing your own message can help you get through the noise of people who try to tear you down online.

So listen here to to some of Russell's insightful and helpful tips to keep beating your drum even when the opposition grows really loud.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/211-this-is-where-you-find-out-if-you-really-believe-your-message-is-true

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]]> 875 no Conversation Domination - Part 3 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/conversation-domination-part-3-of-3 Part 3 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination". On this exciting conclusion of the Conversation Domination Presentation Russell talks about some of the platforms you can use to get people excited about your business. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: How Facebook is a talk show, YouTube a sitcom, and podcasts are radio shows. How Russell utilizes each of these channels for his business, and how you could use them for yours. And why it's important to master these channels one at a time, before moving on to the next one. So listen here to final portion of Russell's awesome Conversation Domination Presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/210-conversation-domination-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 May 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Conversation Domination - Part 3 of 3 full 210 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Part 3 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called “Conversation Domination”. Part 3 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination". On this exciting conclusion of the Conversation Domination Presentation Russell talks about some of the platforms you can use to get people excited about your business. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: How Facebook is a talk show, YouTube a sitcom, and podcasts are radio shows. How Russell utilizes each of these channels for his business, and how you could use them for yours. And why it's important to master these channels one at a time, before moving on to the next one. So listen here to final portion of Russell's awesome Conversation Domination Presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/210-conversation-domination-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Part 3 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination".

On this exciting conclusion of the Conversation Domination Presentation Russell talks about some of the platforms you can use to get people excited about your business. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:

  • How Facebook is a talk show, YouTube a sitcom, and podcasts are radio shows.
  • How Russell utilizes each of these channels for his business, and how you could use them for yours.
  • And why it's important to master these channels one at a time, before moving on to the next one.

So listen here to final portion of Russell's awesome Conversation Domination Presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018.

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]]> 1394 no Conversation Domination - Part 2 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/conversation-domination-part-2-of-3 Part 2 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination". On this second part of Russell's Conversation Domination Presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018 he talks about the different “channels” on your phone that you can use to gain a following. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in this episode: Find out what channels would be considered a reality show, a talk show, a sitcom, and radio show. See why Russell is so obsessed with Instagram, and why he thinks it is the most powerful platform. And find out how you can get 10,000 followers quickly in order to use the "Swipe up" capabilities on Instagram. So listen here to the second exciting part of the Conversation Domination Presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/209-conversation-domination-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 May 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Conversation Domination - Part 2 of 3 full 209 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Part 2 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination". Part 2 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination". On this second part of Russell's Conversation Domination Presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018 he talks about the different “channels” on your phone that you can use to gain a following. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in this episode: Find out what channels would be considered a reality show, a talk show, a sitcom, and radio show. See why Russell is so obsessed with Instagram, and why he thinks it is the most powerful platform. And find out how you can get 10,000 followers quickly in order to use the "Swipe up" capabilities on Instagram. So listen here to the second exciting part of the Conversation Domination Presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/209-conversation-domination-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Part 2 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination".

On this second part of Russell's Conversation Domination Presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018 he talks about the different “channels” on your phone that you can use to gain a following. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in this episode:

  • Find out what channels would be considered a reality show, a talk show, a sitcom, and radio show.
  • See why Russell is so obsessed with Instagram, and why he thinks it is the most powerful platform.
  • And find out how you can get 10,000 followers quickly in order to use the "Swipe up" capabilities on Instagram.

So listen here to the second exciting part of the Conversation Domination Presentation from Funnel Hacking Live.

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]]> 1431 no Conversation Domination - Part 1 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/conversation-domination-part-1-of-3 Part 1 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination". On today's episode Russell shares a presentation he did at Funnel Hacking Live 2018 about conversation domination. Here are some of the incredible things you'll hear in this episode: Why platforms like Facebook and Instagram are similar to TV channels in the 1960s. How Russell has been able to dominate on multiple social media platforms. And what the three types of traffic are, and how they work. So listen here to find out how Russell dominates the conversation, and how you can too. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/208-conversation-domination-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 May 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Conversation Domination - Part 1 of 3 full 208 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Part 1 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called “Conversation Domination”. Part 1 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination". On today's episode Russell shares a presentation he did at Funnel Hacking Live 2018 about conversation domination. Here are some of the incredible things you'll hear in this episode: Why platforms like Facebook and Instagram are similar to TV channels in the 1960s. How Russell has been able to dominate on multiple social media platforms. And what the three types of traffic are, and how they work. So listen here to find out how Russell dominates the conversation, and how you can too. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/208-conversation-domination-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Part 1 of 3 from my presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018 where I talked about this new concept called "Conversation Domination".

On today's episode Russell shares a presentation he did at Funnel Hacking Live 2018 about conversation domination. Here are some of the incredible things you'll hear in this episode:

  • Why platforms like Facebook and Instagram are similar to TV channels in the 1960s.
  • How Russell has been able to dominate on multiple social media platforms.
  • And what the three types of traffic are, and how they work.

So listen here to find out how Russell dominates the conversation, and how you can too.

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]]> 1447 no Isolation And The Entrepreneur https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/isolation-and-the-entrepreneur The realities of isolation as an entrepreneur and what you can do to protect yourself. On this episode Russell talks about the different phases in entrepreneurship, and the isolation they bring. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in today's episode: Why the loneliness that plagued Russell when he first got started being an entrepreneur has returned in recent months. How Russell is trying to combat the loneliness he feels as CEO of his company. And why it's so important to find a community that can support you in your journey as an entrepreneur. So listen here to find out why entrepreneurship brings isolation and how you can fight it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/207-207-isolation-and-the-entrepreneur Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 May 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Isolation And The Entrepreneur full 207 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The realities of isolation as an entrepreneur and what you can do to protect yourself. The realities of isolation as an entrepreneur and what you can do to protect yourself. On this episode Russell talks about the different phases in entrepreneurship, and the isolation they bring. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in today's episode: Why the loneliness that plagued Russell when he first got started being an entrepreneur has returned in recent months. How Russell is trying to combat the loneliness he feels as CEO of his company. And why it's so important to find a community that can support you in your journey as an entrepreneur. So listen here to find out why entrepreneurship brings isolation and how you can fight it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/207-207-isolation-and-the-entrepreneur Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The realities of isolation as an entrepreneur and what you can do to protect yourself.

On this episode Russell talks about the different phases in entrepreneurship, and the isolation they bring. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in today's episode:

  • Why the loneliness that plagued Russell when he first got started being an entrepreneur has returned in recent months.
  • How Russell is trying to combat the loneliness he feels as CEO of his company.
  • And why it's so important to find a community that can support you in your journey as an entrepreneur.

So listen here to find out why entrepreneurship brings isolation and how you can fight it.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/207-207-isolation-and-the-entrepreneur

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]]> 844 no What To Do While You Wait For Your Paid Ads To Work https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-to-do-while-you-wait-for-your-paid-ads-to-work A quick coaching session for Justin Guarini from American Idol, which will hopefully help you as well. On today's episode Russell gives some advice to the members of 2CCX about how to fix a funnel if it's not converting with paid ads. Here are some of the the helpful hints you will hear in this episode: How to keep the momentum going even when paid ads aren't working. Why people who listen to podcasts are the best buyers. And how hitting the podcast circuit made Russell change the title of Expert Secrets. So listen here to find out what kind of advice Russell has if you're feeling frustrated by your paid ads not converting. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/206-what-to-do-while-you-wait-for-your-paid-ads-to-work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 15 May 2019 08:00:00 -0000 What To Do While You Wait For Your Paid Ads To Work full 206 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A quick coaching session for Justin Guarini from American Idol, which will hopefully help you as well. A quick coaching session for Justin Guarini from American Idol, which will hopefully help you as well. On today's episode Russell gives some advice to the members of 2CCX about how to fix a funnel if it's not converting with paid ads. Here are some of the the helpful hints you will hear in this episode: How to keep the momentum going even when paid ads aren't working. Why people who listen to podcasts are the best buyers. And how hitting the podcast circuit made Russell change the title of Expert Secrets. So listen here to find out what kind of advice Russell has if you're feeling frustrated by your paid ads not converting. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/206-what-to-do-while-you-wait-for-your-paid-ads-to-work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A quick coaching session for Justin Guarini from American Idol, which will hopefully help you as well.

On today's episode Russell gives some advice to the members of 2CCX about how to fix a funnel if it's not converting with paid ads. Here are some of the the helpful hints you will hear in this episode:

  • How to keep the momentum going even when paid ads aren't working.
  • Why people who listen to podcasts are the best buyers.
  • And how hitting the podcast circuit made Russell change the title of Expert Secrets.

So listen here to find out what kind of advice Russell has if you're feeling frustrated by your paid ads not converting.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/206-what-to-do-while-you-wait-for-your-paid-ads-to-work

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]]> 1419 no Producer Vs Consumer, What Are You? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/producer-vs-consumer-what-are-you Here's a little trick to help you get off social media, make more money, and help your kids have an amazing summer as well. On today's episode Russell talks about what it means to be a producer vs a consumer. He explains how it is going to help his kids get off the TV for the summer and being producing something and finding their voices. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in this episode: Where Russell heard about being a producer of social media, rather than a consumer. Why Russell thinks this concept is key to getting his kids off their screens for the summer. And how becoming a producer will help Russell's children find their voices so early in life. So listen here to find out why being a producer is so important, and how you can use it to find your own voice. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/205-producer-vs-consumer-what-are-you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 13 May 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Producer Vs Consumer, What Are You? full 205 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here’s a little trick to help you get off social media, make more money, and help your kids have an amazing summer as well. Here's a little trick to help you get off social media, make more money, and help your kids have an amazing summer as well. On today's episode Russell talks about what it means to be a producer vs a consumer. He explains how it is going to help his kids get off the TV for the summer and being producing something and finding their voices. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in this episode: Where Russell heard about being a producer of social media, rather than a consumer. Why Russell thinks this concept is key to getting his kids off their screens for the summer. And how becoming a producer will help Russell's children find their voices so early in life. So listen here to find out why being a producer is so important, and how you can use it to find your own voice. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/205-producer-vs-consumer-what-are-you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here's a little trick to help you get off social media, make more money, and help your kids have an amazing summer as well.

On today's episode Russell talks about what it means to be a producer vs a consumer. He explains how it is going to help his kids get off the TV for the summer and being producing something and finding their voices. Here are some of the awesome things you'll hear in this episode:

  • Where Russell heard about being a producer of social media, rather than a consumer.
  • Why Russell thinks this concept is key to getting his kids off their screens for the summer.
  • And how becoming a producer will help Russell's children find their voices so early in life.

So listen here to find out why being a producer is so important, and how you can use it to find your own voice.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/205-producer-vs-consumer-what-are-you

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]]> 749 no My First Wrestling Match In 15 Years… And What That Has To Do With You https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-first-wrestling-match-in-15-years-and-what-that-has-to-do-with-you I did something this weekend that I've wanted to do for a decade and a half, and I'm hoping this episode gives you permission to do the thing that you've been dreaming about doing, but have been too afraid or too nervous to try. On today's episode Russell talks about attending his first wrestling tournament after a 15 year absence and why it should inspire you to do something similar. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear about in this episode: Hear about Russell's former glory days of wrestling, and the history behind his love of the sport. Find out why he hasn't wrestled in so long, and why he wants to get back to it. And finally, be inspired to do your own thing that you haven't done for various reasons, and just do it. So listen here to find out why Russell's wrestling again and why that should inspire you to do your own thing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/204-my-first-wrestling-match-in-15-years-and-what-that-has-to-do-with-you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 08 May 2019 08:00:00 -0000 My First Wrestling Match In 15 Years… And What That Has To Do With You full 204 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I did something this weekend that I’ve wanted to do for a decade and a half, and I’m hoping this episode gives you permission to do the thing that you’ve been dreaming about doing, but have been too afraid or too nervous to try. I did something this weekend that I've wanted to do for a decade and a half, and I'm hoping this episode gives you permission to do the thing that you've been dreaming about doing, but have been too afraid or too nervous to try. On today's episode Russell talks about attending his first wrestling tournament after a 15 year absence and why it should inspire you to do something similar. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear about in this episode: Hear about Russell's former glory days of wrestling, and the history behind his love of the sport. Find out why he hasn't wrestled in so long, and why he wants to get back to it. And finally, be inspired to do your own thing that you haven't done for various reasons, and just do it. So listen here to find out why Russell's wrestling again and why that should inspire you to do your own thing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/204-my-first-wrestling-match-in-15-years-and-what-that-has-to-do-with-you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I did something this weekend that I've wanted to do for a decade and a half, and I'm hoping this episode gives you permission to do the thing that you've been dreaming about doing, but have been too afraid or too nervous to try.

On today's episode Russell talks about attending his first wrestling tournament after a 15 year absence and why it should inspire you to do something similar. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear about in this episode:

  • Hear about Russell's former glory days of wrestling, and the history behind his love of the sport.
  • Find out why he hasn't wrestled in so long, and why he wants to get back to it.
  • And finally, be inspired to do your own thing that you haven't done for various reasons, and just do it.

So listen here to find out why Russell's wrestling again and why that should inspire you to do your own thing.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/204-my-first-wrestling-match-in-15-years-and-what-that-has-to-do-with-you

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]]> 855 no My Secret Interview With Tony Robbins... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-secret-interview-with-tony-robbins A really fun interview we did before the Mastermind.com launch. On today's special episode Russell interview Tony about a new course coming out with Tony, Russell, and Dean Graziosi. Here are some of the incredible things you will get to hear on this episode: Hear a little bit about Tony's humble beginnings and his road to becoming who he is today. Find out how Tony got started with mastermind groups. And find out what kind of things will be included in this new course. So listen here to see why Russell, Tony, and Dean Graziosi have created a course, and what it will be. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/203-my-secret-interview-with-tony-robbins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 May 2019 08:00:00 -0000 My Secret Interview With Tony Robbins... full 203 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A really fun interview we did before the Mastermind.com launch. A really fun interview we did before the Mastermind.com launch. On today's special episode Russell interview Tony about a new course coming out with Tony, Russell, and Dean Graziosi. Here are some of the incredible things you will get to hear on this episode: Hear a little bit about Tony's humble beginnings and his road to becoming who he is today. Find out how Tony got started with mastermind groups. And find out what kind of things will be included in this new course. So listen here to see why Russell, Tony, and Dean Graziosi have created a course, and what it will be. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/203-my-secret-interview-with-tony-robbins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A really fun interview we did before the Mastermind.com launch.

On today's special episode Russell interview Tony about a new course coming out with Tony, Russell, and Dean Graziosi. Here are some of the incredible things you will get to hear on this episode:

  • Hear a little bit about Tony's humble beginnings and his road to becoming who he is today.
  • Find out how Tony got started with mastermind groups.
  • And find out what kind of things will be included in this new course.

So listen here to see why Russell, Tony, and Dean Graziosi have created a course, and what it will be.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/203-my-secret-interview-with-tony-robbins

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]]> 2161 no A Consulting Call With My Mentor - Part 2 of 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-consulting-call-with-my-mentor-part-2-of-2 On part 2 of this special episode series, Russell continues to give his mentor Mark Joyner some powerful advice. Here are some things that Russell tells Mark, that could be helpful to anyone running a business. Why you have to find a category you can be king of in order to become a billion dollar business. How the Expert Secrets book can help you become a charismatic leader, find a future based cause, and a new opportunity to sell. And how to create a front end funnel to bring people into your software. So listen to Russell offer sound advice to his own mentor, Mark Joyner, about how he can improve his business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/202-a-consulting-call-with-my-mentor-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 01 May 2019 08:00:00 -0000 A Consulting Call With My Mentor - Part 2 of 2 full 202 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On part 2 of this special episode series, Russell continues to give his mentor Mark Joyner some powerful advice. On part 2 of this special episode series, Russell continues to give his mentor Mark Joyner some powerful advice. Here are some things that Russell tells Mark, that could be helpful to anyone running a business. Why you have to find a category you can be king of in order to become a billion dollar business. How the Expert Secrets book can help you become a charismatic leader, find a future based cause, and a new opportunity to sell. And how to create a front end funnel to bring people into your software. So listen to Russell offer sound advice to his own mentor, Mark Joyner, about how he can improve his business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/202-a-consulting-call-with-my-mentor-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On part 2 of this special episode series, Russell continues to give his mentor Mark Joyner some powerful advice. Here are some things that Russell tells Mark, that could be helpful to anyone running a business.

  • Why you have to find a category you can be king of in order to become a billion dollar business.
  • How the Expert Secrets book can help you become a charismatic leader, find a future based cause, and a new opportunity to sell.
  • And how to create a front end funnel to bring people into your software.

So listen to Russell offer sound advice to his own mentor, Mark Joyner, about how he can improve his business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/202-a-consulting-call-with-my-mentor-part-2-of-2

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]]> 2289 no A Consulting Call With My Mentor - Part 1 of 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-consulting-call-with-my-mentor-part-1-of-2 I had a really rare opportunity to give some feedback to my initial mentor who got me started on this crazy journey. Listen in for thoughts and insights that should help you as well. On this special 2 episode series Russell talks about a recent social media post by Mark Joyner, and then he goes on to give him some awesome advice. Here are some things that Russell tells Mark Joyner, that could be helpful to anyone running a business. Why having too many upsells/downsells will make your customers turn on you. How removing complexity from software will make customers enjoy it more. And why the more significance you seek, the less you will actually get. So listen to Russell offer sound advice to his own mentor, Mark Joyner, about how he can improve his business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/201-a-consulting-call-with-my-mentor-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Apr 2019 08:00:00 -0000 A Consulting Call With My Mentor - Part 1 of 2 full 201 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I had a really rare opportunity to give some feedback to my initial mentor who got me started on this crazy journey. Listen in for thoughts and insights that should help you as well. I had a really rare opportunity to give some feedback to my initial mentor who got me started on this crazy journey. Listen in for thoughts and insights that should help you as well. On this special 2 episode series Russell talks about a recent social media post by Mark Joyner, and then he goes on to give him some awesome advice. Here are some things that Russell tells Mark Joyner, that could be helpful to anyone running a business. Why having too many upsells/downsells will make your customers turn on you. How removing complexity from software will make customers enjoy it more. And why the more significance you seek, the less you will actually get. So listen to Russell offer sound advice to his own mentor, Mark Joyner, about how he can improve his business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/201-a-consulting-call-with-my-mentor-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I had a really rare opportunity to give some feedback to my initial mentor who got me started on this crazy journey. Listen in for thoughts and insights that should help you as well.

On this special 2 episode series Russell talks about a recent social media post by Mark Joyner, and then he goes on to give him some awesome advice. Here are some things that Russell tells Mark Joyner, that could be helpful to anyone running a business.

  • Why having too many upsells/downsells will make your customers turn on you.
  • How removing complexity from software will make customers enjoy it more.
  • And why the more significance you seek, the less you will actually get.

So listen to Russell offer sound advice to his own mentor, Mark Joyner, about how he can improve his business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/201-a-consulting-call-with-my-mentor-part-1-of-2

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]]> 1574 no My Secret Notebook From The Puerto Rico Mastermind https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-secret-notebook-from-the-puerto-rico-mastermind Want to see my top take-aways from the recent mastermind that I was at, with some of the top thought leaders in the world? On today's episode Russell talks about some of the things he learned during his recent trip to Puerto Rico for Brendon Burchard's mastermind group. Here are some of the amazing things you should listen for in this episode: Why Russell almost didn't go to the mastermind group, and how Collette convinced him that they should go. What some of the gold nuggets were that Russell picked up from people like, David Bach, Ethan Willis, and Rachel Hollis. And what mastermind group Russell recommends for you to be a part of for you to get the most success with your business. So listen here to find out what kind of awesome tidbits Russell picked up at the Puerto Rico Mastermind. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/200-my-secret-notebook-from-the-puerto-rico-mastermind Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:00:00 -0000 My Secret Notebook From The Puerto Rico Mastermind full 200 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Want to see my top take-aways from the recent mastermind that I was at, with some of the top thought leaders in the world? Want to see my top take-aways from the recent mastermind that I was at, with some of the top thought leaders in the world? On today's episode Russell talks about some of the things he learned during his recent trip to Puerto Rico for Brendon Burchard's mastermind group. Here are some of the amazing things you should listen for in this episode: Why Russell almost didn't go to the mastermind group, and how Collette convinced him that they should go. What some of the gold nuggets were that Russell picked up from people like, David Bach, Ethan Willis, and Rachel Hollis. And what mastermind group Russell recommends for you to be a part of for you to get the most success with your business. So listen here to find out what kind of awesome tidbits Russell picked up at the Puerto Rico Mastermind. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/200-my-secret-notebook-from-the-puerto-rico-mastermind Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Want to see my top take-aways from the recent mastermind that I was at, with some of the top thought leaders in the world?

On today's episode Russell talks about some of the things he learned during his recent trip to Puerto Rico for Brendon Burchard's mastermind group. Here are some of the amazing things you should listen for in this episode:

  • Why Russell almost didn't go to the mastermind group, and how Collette convinced him that they should go.
  • What some of the gold nuggets were that Russell picked up from people like, David Bach, Ethan Willis, and Rachel Hollis.
  • And what mastermind group Russell recommends for you to be a part of for you to get the most success with your business.

So listen here to find out what kind of awesome tidbits Russell picked up at the Puerto Rico Mastermind.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/200-my-secret-notebook-from-the-puerto-rico-mastermind

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]]> 1045 no If Only They Knew They Were Slaves... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/if-only-they-knew-they-were-slaves My favorite quote from Harriet Tubman and how it relates to you and your mission. On this episode Russell talks about a famous quote by Harriet Tubman and how he relates to it in the world of marketing. Here are some of the insightful things on today's episode: How Russell was able to relate a quote about slaves to his own life as an internet marketer. And how you can be like Harriet Tubman and Russell in your business by giving freedom to your customers. So listen here to find out how you can use your business to help free people who don't realize that they are enslaved. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/if-only-they-knew-they-were-slaves Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Apr 2019 08:00:00 -0000 If Only They Knew They Were Slaves... full 199 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My favorite quote from Harriet Tubman and how it relates to you and your mission. My favorite quote from Harriet Tubman and how it relates to you and your mission. On this episode Russell talks about a famous quote by Harriet Tubman and how he relates to it in the world of marketing. Here are some of the insightful things on today's episode: How Russell was able to relate a quote about slaves to his own life as an internet marketer. And how you can be like Harriet Tubman and Russell in your business by giving freedom to your customers. So listen here to find out how you can use your business to help free people who don't realize that they are enslaved. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/if-only-they-knew-they-were-slaves Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My favorite quote from Harriet Tubman and how it relates to you and your mission.

On this episode Russell talks about a famous quote by Harriet Tubman and how he relates to it in the world of marketing. Here are some of the insightful things on today's episode:

  • How Russell was able to relate a quote about slaves to his own life as an internet marketer.
  • And how you can be like Harriet Tubman and Russell in your business by giving freedom to your customers.

So listen here to find out how you can use your business to help free people who don't realize that they are enslaved.

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]]> 628 no Becoming A True Artist... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/becoming-a-true-artist If you want to increase your happiness level, and your income; one of the biggest keys is becoming a true artist. On today's episode Russell talks about why he's wrestling again after nearly 20 years, and he also discusses what it means to be a true artist in your field and how it is different from just being good at what you do. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell is wrestling again, and if it will still be possible for him to compete soon when he already hurt his neck. See what it means to be a true artist in your business. And if you aren't a true artist in your field, find out how you can become one. So listen here to see how Russell is a true artist of funnels and how you can become an artist in something you love as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/198-becoming-a-true-artist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Apr 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Becoming A True Artist... full 198 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you want to increase your happiness level, and your income; one of the biggest keys is becoming a true artist. If you want to increase your happiness level, and your income; one of the biggest keys is becoming a true artist. On today's episode Russell talks about why he's wrestling again after nearly 20 years, and he also discusses what it means to be a true artist in your field and how it is different from just being good at what you do. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell is wrestling again, and if it will still be possible for him to compete soon when he already hurt his neck. See what it means to be a true artist in your business. And if you aren't a true artist in your field, find out how you can become one. So listen here to see how Russell is a true artist of funnels and how you can become an artist in something you love as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/198-becoming-a-true-artist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you want to increase your happiness level, and your income; one of the biggest keys is becoming a true artist.

On today's episode Russell talks about why he's wrestling again after nearly 20 years, and he also discusses what it means to be a true artist in your field and how it is different from just being good at what you do. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell is wrestling again, and if it will still be possible for him to compete soon when he already hurt his neck.
  • See what it means to be a true artist in your business.
  • And if you aren't a true artist in your field, find out how you can become one.

So listen here to see how Russell is a true artist of funnels and how you can become an artist in something you love as well.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/198-becoming-a-true-artist

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]]> 817 no Being A Chain Breaker https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/being-a-chain-breaker What negative patterns did you get from your parents that are keeping you back from success today? On this episode Russell talks about a couple things that happened on his Disney Cruise that made him think about breaking negative chains in his generation history to make his posterity better. Here are some of the interesting things on today's episode: Find out what happens on the cruise that makes Russell think about why someone would act that way. See what some of the negative traits Russell decided to break from his own life. And see what some positive traits were that he received from his family that he has kept and even made better in his own life. So listen here to find out how you can affect future generations by discarding negative family traits, but keeping the positive ones. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/197-being-a-chain-breaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Apr 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Being A Chain Breaker full 197 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What negative patterns did you get from your parents that are keeping you back from success today? What negative patterns did you get from your parents that are keeping you back from success today? On this episode Russell talks about a couple things that happened on his Disney Cruise that made him think about breaking negative chains in his generation history to make his posterity better. Here are some of the interesting things on today's episode: Find out what happens on the cruise that makes Russell think about why someone would act that way. See what some of the negative traits Russell decided to break from his own life. And see what some positive traits were that he received from his family that he has kept and even made better in his own life. So listen here to find out how you can affect future generations by discarding negative family traits, but keeping the positive ones. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/197-being-a-chain-breaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What negative patterns did you get from your parents that are keeping you back from success today?

On this episode Russell talks about a couple things that happened on his Disney Cruise that made him think about breaking negative chains in his generation history to make his posterity better. Here are some of the interesting things on today's episode:

  • Find out what happens on the cruise that makes Russell think about why someone would act that way.
  • See what some of the negative traits Russell decided to break from his own life.
  • And see what some positive traits were that he received from his family that he has kept and even made better in his own life.

So listen here to find out how you can affect future generations by discarding negative family traits, but keeping the positive ones.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/197-being-a-chain-breaker

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]]> 1064 no The Secret To Having Your Big Ah-Ha... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-to-having-your-big-ah-ha As I was writing the Traffic Secrets book today, I had a big ah-ha, and I think I've reverse engineered it to show you how to have the same thing in your life. On today's episode Russell talks about why he's taking his family on a Disney Cruise. He also explains his secret to having a big aha while writing his newest book, Traffic Secrets. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode: Find out what Russell's family's super bowl goal was for them to go on a Disney Cruise. Hear why Russell thinks that immersing yourself in a topic for several days is the perfect way to receive inspiration. And find out how you can follow Russell's lead by immersing yourself in any topic that you are interested in. So listen here to find out why Russell thinks immersion is the key to making connections that you may not see when just dabbling. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/196-the-secret-to-having-your-big-ah-ha Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Apr 2019 08:00:00 -0000 The Secret To Having Your Big Ah-Ha... full 196 Russell Brunson | YAP Media As I was writing the Traffic Secrets book today, I had a big ah-ha, and I think I’ve reverse engineered it to show you how to have the same thing in your life. As I was writing the Traffic Secrets book today, I had a big ah-ha, and I think I've reverse engineered it to show you how to have the same thing in your life. On today's episode Russell talks about why he's taking his family on a Disney Cruise. He also explains his secret to having a big aha while writing his newest book, Traffic Secrets. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode: Find out what Russell's family's super bowl goal was for them to go on a Disney Cruise. Hear why Russell thinks that immersing yourself in a topic for several days is the perfect way to receive inspiration. And find out how you can follow Russell's lead by immersing yourself in any topic that you are interested in. So listen here to find out why Russell thinks immersion is the key to making connections that you may not see when just dabbling. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/196-the-secret-to-having-your-big-ah-ha Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As I was writing the Traffic Secrets book today, I had a big ah-ha, and I think I've reverse engineered it to show you how to have the same thing in your life.

On today's episode Russell talks about why he's taking his family on a Disney Cruise. He also explains his secret to having a big aha while writing his newest book, Traffic Secrets. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode:

  • Find out what Russell's family's super bowl goal was for them to go on a Disney Cruise.
  • Hear why Russell thinks that immersing yourself in a topic for several days is the perfect way to receive inspiration.
  • And find out how you can follow Russell's lead by immersing yourself in any topic that you are interested in.

So listen here to find out why Russell thinks immersion is the key to making connections that you may not see when just dabbling.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/196-the-secret-to-having-your-big-ah-ha

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]]> 816 no My Book Writing/Creation Process https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-book-writingcreation-process I'm officially working on the secrets trilogy... Let me show you behind the scenes of how I'm doing it. On this episode Russell breaks down his process as he begins working on his Traffic Secrets book. Here are some of the informative things you will hear in today's episode: See why it takes a few days of planning before Russell will actually begin to write the new book. Find out why Russell is re-writing parts of both his Dotcom Secrets, and Expert Secrets books. And find out how Russell is using Trello to arrange all three of his books to make sense. So listen here to hear Russell's awesome way of getting his framework all together before he actually begins writing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/195-my-book-writing-creation-process Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Apr 2019 08:00:00 -0000 My Book Writing/Creation Process full 195 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I’m officially working on the secrets trilogy… Let me show you behind the scenes of how I’m doing it. I'm officially working on the secrets trilogy... Let me show you behind the scenes of how I'm doing it. On this episode Russell breaks down his process as he begins working on his Traffic Secrets book. Here are some of the informative things you will hear in today's episode: See why it takes a few days of planning before Russell will actually begin to write the new book. Find out why Russell is re-writing parts of both his Dotcom Secrets, and Expert Secrets books. And find out how Russell is using Trello to arrange all three of his books to make sense. So listen here to hear Russell's awesome way of getting his framework all together before he actually begins writing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/195-my-book-writing-creation-process Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I'm officially working on the secrets trilogy... Let me show you behind the scenes of how I'm doing it.

On this episode Russell breaks down his process as he begins working on his Traffic Secrets book. Here are some of the informative things you will hear in today's episode:

  • See why it takes a few days of planning before Russell will actually begin to write the new book.
  • Find out why Russell is re-writing parts of both his Dotcom Secrets, and Expert Secrets books.
  • And find out how Russell is using Trello to arrange all three of his books to make sense.

So listen here to hear Russell's awesome way of getting his framework all together before he actually begins writing.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/195-my-book-writing-creation-process

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]]> 740 no My Funnel Hacking Live Keynote Presentation - Part 4 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-4-of-4 Listen to the final part of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I dive deeper into understanding and mastering hooks. On today's episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part: Find out why the hook is a little harder to catch onto, but why it's also the most important part. Find out why you should practice different hooks, much like a comedian practices different jokes. And find out how you can find examples of other hooks proven to work, and model your own after them. So listen here to the exciting conclusion of Russell's keynote presentation at Funnel Hacking live this year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/194-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Apr 2019 08:00:00 -0000 My Funnel Hacking Live Keynote Presentation - Part 4 of 4 full 194 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen to the final part of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I dive deeper into understanding and mastering hooks. Listen to the final part of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I dive deeper into understanding and mastering hooks. On today's episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part: Find out why the hook is a little harder to catch onto, but why it's also the most important part. Find out why you should practice different hooks, much like a comedian practices different jokes. And find out how you can find examples of other hooks proven to work, and model your own after them. So listen here to the exciting conclusion of Russell's keynote presentation at Funnel Hacking live this year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/194-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen to the final part of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I dive deeper into understanding and mastering hooks.

On today's episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part:

  • Find out why the hook is a little harder to catch onto, but why it's also the most important part.
  • Find out why you should practice different hooks, much like a comedian practices different jokes.
  • And find out how you can find examples of other hooks proven to work, and model your own after them.

So listen here to the exciting conclusion of Russell's keynote presentation at Funnel Hacking live this year.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/194-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-4-of-4

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]]> 872 no My Funnel Hacking Live Keynote Presentation - Part 3 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-3-of-4 Listen to part 3 of 4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I start diving deeper into how to tell stories and how those stories relate to the perfect webinar. On today's episode you will hear part 3 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part: Find out why the story you tell is so important in order to break down false belief patterns. Hear why the more complex the product, the more stories you have to have to sell it. And find out what kinds of stories break specific kinds of false beliefs, and how they are different. So listen here to hear the third part of Russell's keynote presentation at this year's Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/193-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 01 Apr 2019 08:00:00 -0000 My Funnel Hacking Live Keynote Presentation - Part 3 of 4 full 193 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen to part 3 of 4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I start diving deeper into how to tell stories and how those stories relate to the perfect webinar. Listen to part 3 of 4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I start diving deeper into how to tell stories and how those stories relate to the perfect webinar. On today's episode you will hear part 3 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part: Find out why the story you tell is so important in order to break down false belief patterns. Hear why the more complex the product, the more stories you have to have to sell it. And find out what kinds of stories break specific kinds of false beliefs, and how they are different. So listen here to hear the third part of Russell's keynote presentation at this year's Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/193-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen to part 3 of 4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I start diving deeper into how to tell stories and how those stories relate to the perfect webinar.

On today's episode you will hear part 3 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part:

  • Find out why the story you tell is so important in order to break down false belief patterns.
  • Hear why the more complex the product, the more stories you have to have to sell it.
  • And find out what kinds of stories break specific kinds of false beliefs, and how they are different.

So listen here to hear the third part of Russell's keynote presentation at this year's Funnel Hacking Live.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/193-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-3-of-4

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]]> 2027 no My Funnel Hacking Live Keynote Presentation - Part 2 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-2-of-4 Listen to part 2 of 4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I start diving deeper into how to create your irresistible offers. On today's episode you will hear part 2 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part: Hear Russell give ideas for a written offer, an audio offer, and a video offer, that are all super easy. Find out why it's so important to not be a commodity and how you can avoid it. And see why Russell always has several things he can use to bulk up his offers. So listen here to hear the second part of Russell's keynote presentation at this year's Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/192-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Mar 2019 08:00:00 -0000 My Funnel Hacking Live Keynote Presentation - Part 2 of 4 full 192 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen to part 2 of 4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I start diving deeper into how to create your irresistible offers. Listen to part 2 of 4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I start diving deeper into how to create your irresistible offers. On today's episode you will hear part 2 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part: Hear Russell give ideas for a written offer, an audio offer, and a video offer, that are all super easy. Find out why it's so important to not be a commodity and how you can avoid it. And see why Russell always has several things he can use to bulk up his offers. So listen here to hear the second part of Russell's keynote presentation at this year's Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/192-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen to part 2 of 4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I start diving deeper into how to create your irresistible offers.

On today's episode you will hear part 2 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part:

  • Hear Russell give ideas for a written offer, an audio offer, and a video offer, that are all super easy.
  • Find out why it's so important to not be a commodity and how you can avoid it.
  • And see why Russell always has several things he can use to bulk up his offers.

So listen here to hear the second part of Russell's keynote presentation at this year's Funnel Hacking Live.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/192-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-2-of-4

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]]> 1754 no My Funnel Hacking Live Keynote Presentation - Part 1 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-1-of-4 Listen to the first 1/4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. We talk about what funnel hackers are doing and start digging into "Hook, Story, Offer". On today's episode you will hear part 1 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in part one: A little background into how Clickfunnels got started, and stats of where they are now. Find out why hook, story, and offer are the keys to your success. And listen to Russell show how increasing value in an offer is better than decreasing price to compete with others. So listen here to hear the beginning of Russell's first presentation at this year's Funnel Hacking Live about the Hook, Story, and Offer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/191-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 Mar 2019 08:00:00 -0000 My Funnel Hacking Live Keynote Presentation - Part 1 of 4 full 191 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen to the first 1/4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. We talk about what funnel hackers are doing and start digging into “Hook, Story, Offer”. Listen to the first 1/4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. We talk about what funnel hackers are doing and start digging into "Hook, Story, Offer". On today's episode you will hear part 1 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in part one: A little background into how Clickfunnels got started, and stats of where they are now. Find out why hook, story, and offer are the keys to your success. And listen to Russell show how increasing value in an offer is better than decreasing price to compete with others. So listen here to hear the beginning of Russell's first presentation at this year's Funnel Hacking Live about the Hook, Story, and Offer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/191-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen to the first 1/4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. We talk about what funnel hackers are doing and start digging into "Hook, Story, Offer".

On today's episode you will hear part 1 of 4 of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in part one:

  • A little background into how Clickfunnels got started, and stats of where they are now.
  • Find out why hook, story, and offer are the keys to your success.
  • And listen to Russell show how increasing value in an offer is better than decreasing price to compete with others.

So listen here to hear the beginning of Russell's first presentation at this year's Funnel Hacking Live about the Hook, Story, and Offer.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/191-my-funnel-hacking-live-keynote-presentation-part-1-of-4

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]]> 2654 no You HAVE To Be Obsessed With The Game... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/you-have-to-be-obsessed-with-the-game When you become obsessed with this game, the impact, the influence, and the money will come. On today's episode Russell talks about why being obsessed with the game is the key to success. Here are some of the amazing things Russell has to say in this episode: Why Russell is again competing in a wrestling tournament after a 16 year absence. Why the product launching phase of internet marketing was a lot harder, and Russell is relieved it changed. And find out why being obsessed with the game creates a skill set that means only the best survive. So listen here to find out how the marketplace changed from an old boys club to only the best succeed, and why Russell is happy about the change. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/190-you-have-to-be-obsessed-with-the-game Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Mar 2019 08:00:00 -0000 You HAVE To Be Obsessed With The Game... full 190 Russell Brunson | YAP Media When you become obsessed with this game, the impact, the influence, and the money will come. When you become obsessed with this game, the impact, the influence, and the money will come. On today's episode Russell talks about why being obsessed with the game is the key to success. Here are some of the amazing things Russell has to say in this episode: Why Russell is again competing in a wrestling tournament after a 16 year absence. Why the product launching phase of internet marketing was a lot harder, and Russell is relieved it changed. And find out why being obsessed with the game creates a skill set that means only the best survive. So listen here to find out how the marketplace changed from an old boys club to only the best succeed, and why Russell is happy about the change. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/190-you-have-to-be-obsessed-with-the-game Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices When you become obsessed with this game, the impact, the influence, and the money will come.

On today's episode Russell talks about why being obsessed with the game is the key to success. Here are some of the amazing things Russell has to say in this episode:

  • Why Russell is again competing in a wrestling tournament after a 16 year absence.
  • Why the product launching phase of internet marketing was a lot harder, and Russell is relieved it changed.
  • And find out why being obsessed with the game creates a skill set that means only the best survive.

So listen here to find out how the marketplace changed from an old boys club to only the best succeed, and why Russell is happy about the change.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/190-you-have-to-be-obsessed-with-the-game

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]]> 1219 no Funnel Hacking Live 2019 Recap - Day 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-4 Changing The World - Behind the scenes of the last day, the Lindsey Stirling concert, and so much more. On today's episode Russell recaps day four of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Garrett White bringing an audience member onstage and getting him to purchase the Two Comma Club coaching program caused some controversy. Hear what Russell's favorite part of having Lindsey Sterling at Funnel Hacking Live was. And hear Russell gush over how appreciative he is of everyone involved in this year's event. So listen here to find out how the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2019 went. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/189-funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Mar 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live 2019 Recap - Day 4 full 189 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Changing The World – Behind the scenes of the last day, the Lindsey Stirling concert, and so much more. Changing The World - Behind the scenes of the last day, the Lindsey Stirling concert, and so much more. On today's episode Russell recaps day four of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Garrett White bringing an audience member onstage and getting him to purchase the Two Comma Club coaching program caused some controversy. Hear what Russell's favorite part of having Lindsey Sterling at Funnel Hacking Live was. And hear Russell gush over how appreciative he is of everyone involved in this year's event. So listen here to find out how the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2019 went. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/189-funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Changing The World - Behind the scenes of the last day, the Lindsey Stirling concert, and so much more.

On today's episode Russell recaps day four of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why Garrett White bringing an audience member onstage and getting him to purchase the Two Comma Club coaching program caused some controversy.
  • Hear what Russell's favorite part of having Lindsey Sterling at Funnel Hacking Live was.
  • And hear Russell gush over how appreciative he is of everyone involved in this year's event.

So listen here to find out how the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2019 went.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/189-funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-4

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]]> 1422 no Funnel Hacking Live 2019 Recap - Day 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-3 Sales And Belief - Behind the scenes of the two comma club awards, the two comma club presentation, and all the other cool things that happened on day #3. On today's episode Russell recaps day three of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out what all the speakers spoke about. See what TV show everyone at the event was able to watch and how Clickfunnels is involved. And find out why the event is choreographed the way it is, and why they try to keep the order of speakers a little secret. So listen here to find out what happened on day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/188-funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 Mar 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live 2019 Recap - Day 3 full 188 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Sales And Belief – Behind the scenes of the two comma club awards, the two comma club presentation, and all the other cool things that happened on day #3. Sales And Belief - Behind the scenes of the two comma club awards, the two comma club presentation, and all the other cool things that happened on day #3. On today's episode Russell recaps day three of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out what all the speakers spoke about. See what TV show everyone at the event was able to watch and how Clickfunnels is involved. And find out why the event is choreographed the way it is, and why they try to keep the order of speakers a little secret. So listen here to find out what happened on day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/188-funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sales And Belief - Behind the scenes of the two comma club awards, the two comma club presentation, and all the other cool things that happened on day #3.

On today's episode Russell recaps day three of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out what all the speakers spoke about.
  • See what TV show everyone at the event was able to watch and how Clickfunnels is involved.
  • And find out why the event is choreographed the way it is, and why they try to keep the order of speakers a little secret.

So listen here to find out what happened on day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live 2019.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/188-funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-3

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]]> 1001 no Funnel Hacking Live 2019 Recap - Day 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-2 Funnels - Behind the scenes of what happened at day #2 at Funnel Hacking Live. All the cool presentations, and Russell in an ice bath... On today's episode Russell recaps day two of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode:: Find out which presentation Russell didn't feel great about and how Stu McLaren was able to save it. Hear about who the speakers were on day two, and what they spoke about. And find out why Russell took an ice bath at the end of the day, and was able to stay in the water for over 5 minutes. So listen here to find out what you missed on day two of Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/187-funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live 2019 Recap - Day 2 full 187 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Funnels – Behind the scenes of what happened at day #2 at Funnel Hacking Live. All the cool presentations, and Russell in an ice bath… Funnels - Behind the scenes of what happened at day #2 at Funnel Hacking Live. All the cool presentations, and Russell in an ice bath... On today's episode Russell recaps day two of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode:: Find out which presentation Russell didn't feel great about and how Stu McLaren was able to save it. Hear about who the speakers were on day two, and what they spoke about. And find out why Russell took an ice bath at the end of the day, and was able to stay in the water for over 5 minutes. So listen here to find out what you missed on day two of Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/187-funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Funnels - Behind the scenes of what happened at day #2 at Funnel Hacking Live. All the cool presentations, and Russell in an ice bath...

On today's episode Russell recaps day two of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode::

  • Find out which presentation Russell didn't feel great about and how Stu McLaren was able to save it.
  • Hear about who the speakers were on day two, and what they spoke about.
  • And find out why Russell took an ice bath at the end of the day, and was able to stay in the water for over 5 minutes.

So listen here to find out what you missed on day two of Funnel Hacking Live.

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]]> 1093 no Funnel Hacking Live 2019 Recap - Day 1 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-2019-recap-day-1 The Foundation - Russell recaps the first day of Funnel Hacking Live, the biggest tips, tricks, and insights, as well as how we lay the foundation for the rest of the event. On today's episode Russell recaps day one of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out who the speakers were and what they spoke about. Find out how much money was raised for both Village Impact and Operation Underground Railroad. And see how much money Russell's own mom was able to raise by making a quilt for the event. So listen here to see what you may have missed at Funnel Hacking Live 2019, on day one. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/185-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-4-of-4--2ff7d Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Mar 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live 2019 Recap - Day 1 full 186 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The Foundation - Russell recaps the first day of Funnel Hacking Live, the biggest tips, tricks, and insights, as well as how we lay the foundation for the rest of the event. The Foundation - Russell recaps the first day of Funnel Hacking Live, the biggest tips, tricks, and insights, as well as how we lay the foundation for the rest of the event. On today's episode Russell recaps day one of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out who the speakers were and what they spoke about. Find out how much money was raised for both Village Impact and Operation Underground Railroad. And see how much money Russell's own mom was able to raise by making a quilt for the event. So listen here to see what you may have missed at Funnel Hacking Live 2019, on day one. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/185-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-4-of-4--2ff7d Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The Foundation - Russell recaps the first day of Funnel Hacking Live, the biggest tips, tricks, and insights, as well as how we lay the foundation for the rest of the event.

On today's episode Russell recaps day one of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out who the speakers were and what they spoke about.
  • Find out how much money was raised for both Village Impact and Operation Underground Railroad.
  • And see how much money Russell's own mom was able to raise by making a quilt for the event.

So listen here to see what you may have missed at Funnel Hacking Live 2019, on day one.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/185-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-4-of-4--2ff7d

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]]> 1021 no ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 4 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/clickfunnels-startup-story-part-4-of-4 On today's episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story: Hear Russell get put on the spot when he has to answer various questions from the audience. Find out why Russell loves Voxer so much and uses constantly. And find out how Russell plans to take Clickfunnels to the level of Sales Force in the future. So listen here to the final part of this 4 part set of the Clickfunnels Start up story as Russell is interviewed by Andrew Warner. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/185-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 Mar 2019 09:00:00 -0000 ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 4 of 4 full 185 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today’s episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell’s interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. On today's episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story: Hear Russell get put on the spot when he has to answer various questions from the audience. Find out why Russell loves Voxer so much and uses constantly. And find out how Russell plans to take Clickfunnels to the level of Sales Force in the future. So listen here to the final part of this 4 part set of the Clickfunnels Start up story as Russell is interviewed by Andrew Warner. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/185-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story:

  • Hear Russell get put on the spot when he has to answer various questions from the audience.
  • Find out why Russell loves Voxer so much and uses constantly.
  • And find out how Russell plans to take Clickfunnels to the level of Sales Force in the future.

So listen here to the final part of this 4 part set of the Clickfunnels Start up story as Russell is interviewed by Andrew Warner.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/185-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-4-of-4

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]]> 2405 no ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 3 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/clickfunnels-startup-story-part-3-of-4 On today's episode you will hear part 3 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story: Hear how selling Clickfunnels at a Mike Filsaime event got Russell his first ever big table rush at the end of his presentation. Hear from both Dave and John about how they feel about Russell and what they do for the company. And find out how going to Dream Force this year, renewed Russell's passion for growing his business. So listen here to find out more about the Clickfunnels start up story. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/184-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Feb 2019 09:00:00 -0000 ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 3 of 4 full 184 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today’s episode you will hear part 3 of 4 of Russell’s interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. On today's episode you will hear part 3 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story: Hear how selling Clickfunnels at a Mike Filsaime event got Russell his first ever big table rush at the end of his presentation. Hear from both Dave and John about how they feel about Russell and what they do for the company. And find out how going to Dream Force this year, renewed Russell's passion for growing his business. So listen here to find out more about the Clickfunnels start up story. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/184-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode you will hear part 3 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story:

  • Hear how selling Clickfunnels at a Mike Filsaime event got Russell his first ever big table rush at the end of his presentation.
  • Hear from both Dave and John about how they feel about Russell and what they do for the company.
  • And find out how going to Dream Force this year, renewed Russell's passion for growing his business.

So listen here to find out more about the Clickfunnels start up story.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/184-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-3-of-4

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]]> 1756 no ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 2 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/clickfunnels-startup-story-part-2-of-4 On today's episode you will hear part 2 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story: Find out from an employee of Russell's, Brent, why he stuck with the company through potential bankruptcy and jail time for Russell. Find out who thought Clickfunnels seemed like a scammy company and therefore didn't want others to know they'd worked with them. And hear how Clickfunnels actually finally came to fruition after many other failed software company attempts. So listen here to hear how Todd and Dylan became cofounders of Clickfunnels and together got the project off the ground. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/183-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 25 Feb 2019 09:00:00 -0000 ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 2 of 4 full 183 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today’s episode you will hear part 2 of 4 of Russell’s interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. On today's episode you will hear part 2 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story: Find out from an employee of Russell's, Brent, why he stuck with the company through potential bankruptcy and jail time for Russell. Find out who thought Clickfunnels seemed like a scammy company and therefore didn't want others to know they'd worked with them. And hear how Clickfunnels actually finally came to fruition after many other failed software company attempts. So listen here to hear how Todd and Dylan became cofounders of Clickfunnels and together got the project off the ground. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/183-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode you will hear part 2 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story:

  • Find out from an employee of Russell's, Brent, why he stuck with the company through potential bankruptcy and jail time for Russell.
  • Find out who thought Clickfunnels seemed like a scammy company and therefore didn't want others to know they'd worked with them.
  • And hear how Clickfunnels actually finally came to fruition after many other failed software company attempts.

So listen here to hear how Todd and Dylan became cofounders of Clickfunnels and together got the project off the ground.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/183-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-2-of-4

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]]> 1932 no ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 1 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/clickfunnels-startup-story-part-1-of-4 Listen in as Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! On today's episode you will hear part 1 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story: Find out how and why Russell got started with online marketing in the first place. Hear from Collette why she didn't consider Russell a loser, even though he had no job and she was working 2 jobs to support him. And see how after Russell's company had reached over 100 employees, the whole thing came crashing down. So listen here to hear the beginnings of Russell's role as entrepreneur, and how he has been able to overcome many of the obstacles thrown his way. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/182-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Feb 2019 09:00:00 -0000 ClickFunnels Startup Story - Part 1 of 4 full 182 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen in as Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! Listen in as Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! On today's episode you will hear part 1 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story: Find out how and why Russell got started with online marketing in the first place. Hear from Collette why she didn't consider Russell a loser, even though he had no job and she was working 2 jobs to support him. And see how after Russell's company had reached over 100 employees, the whole thing came crashing down. So listen here to hear the beginnings of Russell's role as entrepreneur, and how he has been able to overcome many of the obstacles thrown his way. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/182-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen in as Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story!

On today's episode you will hear part 1 of 4 of Russell's interview with Andrew Warner about the Clickfunnels start up story. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this part of the story:

  • Find out how and why Russell got started with online marketing in the first place.
  • Hear from Collette why she didn't consider Russell a loser, even though he had no job and she was working 2 jobs to support him.
  • And see how after Russell's company had reached over 100 employees, the whole thing came crashing down.

So listen here to hear the beginnings of Russell's role as entrepreneur, and how he has been able to overcome many of the obstacles thrown his way.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/182-clickfunnels-startup-story-part-1-of-4

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]]> 2145 no The Labor Pains Before The Birth Of Your Vision https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-labor-pains-before-the-birth-of-your-vision For any of you who are struggling with labor pains while trying to birth your vision, this one's for you. On today's episode Russell explains what the stress is like on the eve of Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out why as you get closer to the launch of something, there seems to be more work. And find out why Russell compares launching something to labor pains before giving birth. So listen here to see how planning an event is similar to giving birth. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/181-the-labor-pains-before-the-birth-of-your-vision Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:00:00 -0000 The Labor Pains Before The Birth Of Your Vision full 181 Russell Brunson | YAP Media For any of you who are struggling with labor pains while trying to birth your vision, this one’s for you. For any of you who are struggling with labor pains while trying to birth your vision, this one's for you. On today's episode Russell explains what the stress is like on the eve of Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Find out why as you get closer to the launch of something, there seems to be more work. And find out why Russell compares launching something to labor pains before giving birth. So listen here to see how planning an event is similar to giving birth. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/181-the-labor-pains-before-the-birth-of-your-vision Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices For any of you who are struggling with labor pains while trying to birth your vision, this one's for you.

On today's episode Russell explains what the stress is like on the eve of Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out why as you get closer to the launch of something, there seems to be more work.
  • And find out why Russell compares launching something to labor pains before giving birth.

So listen here to see how planning an event is similar to giving birth.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/181-the-labor-pains-before-the-birth-of-your-vision

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]]> 544 no Behind The Scenes Of Day 2 At 10X Growth Con https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/behind-the-scenes-of-day-2-at-10x-growth-con Find out what really happened this year, behind the scenes of the 10x growth con. On today's episode Russell gives a summary of all the things that occurred day two of the 10x Growth Con Event. Here are some of the crazy things that happened: Hear what Garrett White had to say about Russell's calling, that had everyone listening in tears. Find out how Russell was still able to give an amazing presentation despite an alarm blaring, and people doing the wave. And find out what prevented people from actually being able to buy Russell's product at the end of the event. So listen here to see all that went wrong and right at the second day of 10x Growth Con. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-day-2-at-10x-growth-con Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 Feb 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Behind The Scenes Of Day 2 At 10X Growth Con full 180 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Find out what really happened this year, behind the scenes of the 10x growth con. Find out what really happened this year, behind the scenes of the 10x growth con. On today's episode Russell gives a summary of all the things that occurred day two of the 10x Growth Con Event. Here are some of the crazy things that happened: Hear what Garrett White had to say about Russell's calling, that had everyone listening in tears. Find out how Russell was still able to give an amazing presentation despite an alarm blaring, and people doing the wave. And find out what prevented people from actually being able to buy Russell's product at the end of the event. So listen here to see all that went wrong and right at the second day of 10x Growth Con. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-day-2-at-10x-growth-con Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Find out what really happened this year, behind the scenes of the 10x growth con.

On today's episode Russell gives a summary of all the things that occurred day two of the 10x Growth Con Event. Here are some of the crazy things that happened:

  • Hear what Garrett White had to say about Russell's calling, that had everyone listening in tears.
  • Find out how Russell was still able to give an amazing presentation despite an alarm blaring, and people doing the wave.
  • And find out what prevented people from actually being able to buy Russell's product at the end of the event.

So listen here to see all that went wrong and right at the second day of 10x Growth Con.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-day-2-at-10x-growth-con

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]]> 1741 no Behind The Scenes Of Day 1 At 10X Growth Con https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/behind-the-scenes-of-day-1-at-10x-growth-con Find out what really happened this year, behind the scenes of the 10x growth con. On this episode Russell recaps his experience of preparing for the 10x event, along with what happened with his presentation on day one. Here are some of the awesome things you will here on this episode: Find out what kind of stress Russell was under in order to prepare for the 10x event. Hear the things that went right at the event, along with the things that went totally wrong. And see how much money he made from his first presentation at the event, despite the problems. So listen here to find out how day one of the 10x event went, and tune in next time to hear day two. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-day-1-at-10x-growth-con Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Feb 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Behind The Scenes Of Day 1 At 10X Growth Con full 179 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Find out what really happened this year, behind the scenes of the 10x growth con. Find out what really happened this year, behind the scenes of the 10x growth con. On this episode Russell recaps his experience of preparing for the 10x event, along with what happened with his presentation on day one. Here are some of the awesome things you will here on this episode: Find out what kind of stress Russell was under in order to prepare for the 10x event. Hear the things that went right at the event, along with the things that went totally wrong. And see how much money he made from his first presentation at the event, despite the problems. So listen here to find out how day one of the 10x event went, and tune in next time to hear day two. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-day-1-at-10x-growth-con Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Find out what really happened this year, behind the scenes of the 10x growth con.

On this episode Russell recaps his experience of preparing for the 10x event, along with what happened with his presentation on day one. Here are some of the awesome things you will here on this episode:

  • Find out what kind of stress Russell was under in order to prepare for the 10x event.
  • Hear the things that went right at the event, along with the things that went totally wrong.
  • And see how much money he made from his first presentation at the event, despite the problems.

So listen here to find out how day one of the 10x event went, and tune in next time to hear day two.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-day-1-at-10x-growth-con

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]]> 1305 no Heavy Is The Head That Wears The Crown... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/heavy-is-the-head-that-wears-the-crown For any of you who are struggling, I hear you. On today's episode Russell talks about being under a lot of pressure and why he continues to do what he does despite having enough money. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell is feeling overwhelmed right now and how Garrett White helped him get back to work. Find out why, despite making enough money, Russell continues to put himself in tough situations and inspire those around him. And see what it means when Garrett says, "Heavy is the head that wears the crown." So listen here to find out how Garrett White helped Russell get back on track, and how that can help you as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/heavy-is-the-head-that-wears-the-crown Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Feb 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Heavy Is The Head That Wears The Crown... full 178 Russell Brunson | YAP Media For any of you who are struggling, I hear you. For any of you who are struggling, I hear you. On today's episode Russell talks about being under a lot of pressure and why he continues to do what he does despite having enough money. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell is feeling overwhelmed right now and how Garrett White helped him get back to work. Find out why, despite making enough money, Russell continues to put himself in tough situations and inspire those around him. And see what it means when Garrett says, "Heavy is the head that wears the crown." So listen here to find out how Garrett White helped Russell get back on track, and how that can help you as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/heavy-is-the-head-that-wears-the-crown Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices For any of you who are struggling, I hear you.

On today's episode Russell talks about being under a lot of pressure and why he continues to do what he does despite having enough money. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell is feeling overwhelmed right now and how Garrett White helped him get back to work.
  • Find out why, despite making enough money, Russell continues to put himself in tough situations and inspire those around him.
  • And see what it means when Garrett says, "Heavy is the head that wears the crown."

So listen here to find out how Garrett White helped Russell get back on track, and how that can help you as well.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/heavy-is-the-head-that-wears-the-crown

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]]> 644 no How To Develop Passion https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-develop-passion A simple 5-step process to finally find your passion. On today's episode Russell talks about an Instagram post he saw by Tom Bilyeu about how to develop your passion. Here are the awesome steps you can take to figure out what you're passionate about. Go experiment with a ton of stuff. Identify things that spark your interest. Engage deeply with those things. As you engage, if it goes from interest to true fascination, go down the path of gaining mastery. Fascination + Mastery = Passion. So listen here to here Russell explain each of these steps so you can begin your journey into finding out what you are truly passionate about. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-develop-passion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 Feb 2019 09:00:00 -0000 How To Develop Passion full 177 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A simple 5-step process to finally find your passion. A simple 5-step process to finally find your passion. On today's episode Russell talks about an Instagram post he saw by Tom Bilyeu about how to develop your passion. Here are the awesome steps you can take to figure out what you're passionate about. Go experiment with a ton of stuff. Identify things that spark your interest. Engage deeply with those things. As you engage, if it goes from interest to true fascination, go down the path of gaining mastery. Fascination + Mastery = Passion. So listen here to here Russell explain each of these steps so you can begin your journey into finding out what you are truly passionate about. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-develop-passion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A simple 5-step process to finally find your passion.

On today's episode Russell talks about an Instagram post he saw by Tom Bilyeu about how to develop your passion. Here are the awesome steps you can take to figure out what you're passionate about.

  • Go experiment with a ton of stuff.
  • Identify things that spark your interest.
  • Engage deeply with those things.
  • As you engage, if it goes from interest to true fascination, go down the path of gaining mastery.
  • Fascination + Mastery = Passion.

So listen here to here Russell explain each of these steps so you can begin your journey into finding out what you are truly passionate about.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-develop-passion

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]]> 730 no I Think I May Know Why Your Business Is Stuck... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/i-think-i-may-know-why-your-business-is-stuck The #1 thing that keeps entrepreneurs back from success, that you won't read about in any business or marketing book. On this episode Russell talks about the power of forgiveness and shares a small portion of a presentation by Chris Wark that encourages you to forgive everyone who has done you wrong. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode: Find out why someone on the initial Rippln startup team has struggled to progress because he needed to forgive. Hear why Chris Wark thinks forgiveness is the key to healing your heart and in turn healing your health. And find out how to get a hold of Chris' book, so you too can forgive and heal your heart. So listen here to find out why forgiveness of your enemies is so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-think-i-may-know-why-your-business-is-stuck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:00:00 -0000 I Think I May Know Why Your Business Is Stuck... full 176 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The #1 thing that keeps entrepreneurs back from success, that you won’t read about in any business or marketing book. The #1 thing that keeps entrepreneurs back from success, that you won't read about in any business or marketing book. On this episode Russell talks about the power of forgiveness and shares a small portion of a presentation by Chris Wark that encourages you to forgive everyone who has done you wrong. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode: Find out why someone on the initial Rippln startup team has struggled to progress because he needed to forgive. Hear why Chris Wark thinks forgiveness is the key to healing your heart and in turn healing your health. And find out how to get a hold of Chris' book, so you too can forgive and heal your heart. So listen here to find out why forgiveness of your enemies is so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-think-i-may-know-why-your-business-is-stuck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The #1 thing that keeps entrepreneurs back from success, that you won't read about in any business or marketing book.

On this episode Russell talks about the power of forgiveness and shares a small portion of a presentation by Chris Wark that encourages you to forgive everyone who has done you wrong. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why someone on the initial Rippln startup team has struggled to progress because he needed to forgive.
  • Hear why Chris Wark thinks forgiveness is the key to healing your heart and in turn healing your health.
  • And find out how to get a hold of Chris' book, so you too can forgive and heal your heart.

So listen here to find out why forgiveness of your enemies is so important.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-think-i-may-know-why-your-business-is-stuck

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]]> 960 no We Are Funnel Hackers And These Are Our Stories - Part 3 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-3-of-3 On this episode you will hear the final part of Russell's first presentation at last year's Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode: Find out what the creativity switch is and how it can help you grow your company. Why the backend of your Value Ladder should never change. And how you can avoid getting stressed out and overwhelmed by the surplus of information you are receiving in this presentation. So listen here to hear the final part of this amazing presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018, and get excited for this year's event coming up soon! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:00:00 -0000 We Are Funnel Hackers And These Are Our Stories - Part 3 of 3 full 175 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode you will hear the final part of Russell’s first presentation at last year’s Funnel Hacking Live. On this episode you will hear the final part of Russell's first presentation at last year's Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode: Find out what the creativity switch is and how it can help you grow your company. Why the backend of your Value Ladder should never change. And how you can avoid getting stressed out and overwhelmed by the surplus of information you are receiving in this presentation. So listen here to hear the final part of this amazing presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018, and get excited for this year's event coming up soon! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode you will hear the final part of Russell's first presentation at last year's Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the amazing things to listen for in this episode:

  • Find out what the creativity switch is and how it can help you grow your company.
  • Why the backend of your Value Ladder should never change.
  • And how you can avoid getting stressed out and overwhelmed by the surplus of information you are receiving in this presentation.

So listen here to hear the final part of this amazing presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018, and get excited for this year's event coming up soon!

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-3-of-3

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]]> 1654 no We Are Funnel Hackers And These Are Our Stories – Part 2 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-2-of-3 On today's episode you will hear part two of three of Russell first presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear today: How Russell went from having 12 businesses and always making only 3 million dollars, to figuring out that he needed to focus on just one. Why you need to focus on the "what" and the "how" to get from zero to a million dollars. And hear some stories of how a few other people were able to make it to Two Comma Club by focusing on the "what" and the "how", and having only one funnel. So listen hear to find out why the "What" and the "How" are so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:00:00 -0000 We Are Funnel Hackers And These Are Our Stories – Part 2 of 3 full 174 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today’s episode you will hear part two of three of Russell first presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018. On today's episode you will hear part two of three of Russell first presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear today: How Russell went from having 12 businesses and always making only 3 million dollars, to figuring out that he needed to focus on just one. Why you need to focus on the "what" and the "how" to get from zero to a million dollars. And hear some stories of how a few other people were able to make it to Two Comma Club by focusing on the "what" and the "how", and having only one funnel. So listen hear to find out why the "What" and the "How" are so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode you will hear part two of three of Russell first presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear today:

  • How Russell went from having 12 businesses and always making only 3 million dollars, to figuring out that he needed to focus on just one.
  • Why you need to focus on the "what" and the "how" to get from zero to a million dollars.
  • And hear some stories of how a few other people were able to make it to Two Comma Club by focusing on the "what" and the "how", and having only one funnel.

So listen hear to find out why the "What" and the "How" are so important.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-2-of-3

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]]> 1720 no We Are Funnel Hackers And These Are Our Stories - Part 1 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-1-of-3 On this special episode we will hear part one of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Here are some of the inspirational things you will hear in today's episode: Hear stories of other funnel hackers in the community and some of the things they have done. Hear a little of Russell's story and how Clickfunnels came to fruition. And be introduced to Todd Dickerson, Clickfunnels co-founder and Russell's business partner, and hear some of the stats of Clickfunnels and it's members. So listen here to hear part one of this very special three part presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 Jan 2019 09:00:00 -0000 We Are Funnel Hackers And These Are Our Stories - Part 1 of 3 full 173 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this special episode we will hear part one of Russell’s first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018. On this special episode we will hear part one of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Here are some of the inspirational things you will hear in today's episode: Hear stories of other funnel hackers in the community and some of the things they have done. Hear a little of Russell's story and how Clickfunnels came to fruition. And be introduced to Todd Dickerson, Clickfunnels co-founder and Russell's business partner, and hear some of the stats of Clickfunnels and it's members. So listen here to hear part one of this very special three part presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this special episode we will hear part one of Russell's first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Here are some of the inspirational things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Hear stories of other funnel hackers in the community and some of the things they have done.
  • Hear a little of Russell's story and how Clickfunnels came to fruition.
  • And be introduced to Todd Dickerson, Clickfunnels co-founder and Russell's business partner, and hear some of the stats of Clickfunnels and it's members.

So listen here to hear part one of this very special three part presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/we-are-funnel-hackers-and-these-are-our-stories-part-1-of-3

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]]> 1609 no Create Attraction, Connection & Overcome Insecurity - Part 3 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-3-of-3 On today's episode you will hear the 3rd and final part of Sean Stephenson's presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2016. Here are some of the inspiring things you will here in this episode: Find out what you need to do to get more people to "swim toward you" so you can help them. Find out the reason Sean became an entrepreneur in the first place, instead of giving up. And hear why Sean considers an accident involving a semi as the best thing that's ever happened to him. So listen here to hear the conclusion of Sean's amazing and inspiring presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Create Attraction, Connection & Overcome Insecurity - Part 3 of 3 full 172 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today’s episode you will hear the 3rd and final part of Sean Stephenson’s presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2016. On today's episode you will hear the 3rd and final part of Sean Stephenson's presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2016. Here are some of the inspiring things you will here in this episode: Find out what you need to do to get more people to "swim toward you" so you can help them. Find out the reason Sean became an entrepreneur in the first place, instead of giving up. And hear why Sean considers an accident involving a semi as the best thing that's ever happened to him. So listen here to hear the conclusion of Sean's amazing and inspiring presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode you will hear the 3rd and final part of Sean Stephenson's presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2016. Here are some of the inspiring things you will here in this episode:

  • Find out what you need to do to get more people to "swim toward you" so you can help them.
  • Find out the reason Sean became an entrepreneur in the first place, instead of giving up.
  • And hear why Sean considers an accident involving a semi as the best thing that's ever happened to him.

So listen here to hear the conclusion of Sean's amazing and inspiring presentation from Funnel Hacking Live.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-3-of-3

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]]> 1319 no Create Attraction, Connection & Overcome Insecurity - Part 2 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-2-of-3 On this episode you will hear part 2 of a presentation given by Sean Stephenson at Funnel Hacking Live in 2016. Here are some of the awesome things in today's episode: Find out what Sean believes the cure to insecurity is and how he came to that conclusion. Find out why the motto of the coast guard helps Sean decide who he is going to help. And find out Sean's answer to the question, "How many lives do you think you've changed?" So listen here to the second part of Sean Stephenson's inspirational presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2016. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Create Attraction, Connection & Overcome Insecurity - Part 2 of 3 full 171 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode you will hear part 2 of a presentation given by Sean Stephenson at Funnel Hacking Live in 2016. On this episode you will hear part 2 of a presentation given by Sean Stephenson at Funnel Hacking Live in 2016. Here are some of the awesome things in today's episode: Find out what Sean believes the cure to insecurity is and how he came to that conclusion. Find out why the motto of the coast guard helps Sean decide who he is going to help. And find out Sean's answer to the question, "How many lives do you think you've changed?" So listen here to the second part of Sean Stephenson's inspirational presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2016. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode you will hear part 2 of a presentation given by Sean Stephenson at Funnel Hacking Live in 2016. Here are some of the awesome things in today's episode:

  • Find out what Sean believes the cure to insecurity is and how he came to that conclusion.
  • Find out why the motto of the coast guard helps Sean decide who he is going to help.
  • And find out Sean's answer to the question, "How many lives do you think you've changed?"

So listen here to the second part of Sean Stephenson's inspirational presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2016.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-2-of-3

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]]> 1461 no Create Attraction, Connection & Overcome Insecurity - Part 1 of 3 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-1-of-3 On this episode you will hear part 1 of a presentation given by Sean Stephenson at Funnel Hacking Live in 2016. Here are some of the awesome things in today's episode: Find out why Sean thought Russell was kind of a "dick". Find out if the crowd is interested in hearing Sean give his prepared speech, or watching him channel something even he doesn't understand. And hear why Sean thinks capitalism is great, but capitalism without heart is destructive. So listen here to the first part of Sean Stephenson's inspirational presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2016. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 09 Jan 2019 09:00:00 -0000 Create Attraction, Connection & Overcome Insecurity - Part 1 of 3 full 170 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode you will hear part 1 of a presentation given by Sean Stephenson at Funnel Hacking Live in 2016. On this episode you will hear part 1 of a presentation given by Sean Stephenson at Funnel Hacking Live in 2016. Here are some of the awesome things in today's episode: Find out why Sean thought Russell was kind of a "dick". Find out if the crowd is interested in hearing Sean give his prepared speech, or watching him channel something even he doesn't understand. And hear why Sean thinks capitalism is great, but capitalism without heart is destructive. So listen here to the first part of Sean Stephenson's inspirational presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2016. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode you will hear part 1 of a presentation given by Sean Stephenson at Funnel Hacking Live in 2016. Here are some of the awesome things in today's episode:

  • Find out why Sean thought Russell was kind of a "dick".
  • Find out if the crowd is interested in hearing Sean give his prepared speech, or watching him channel something even he doesn't understand.
  • And hear why Sean thinks capitalism is great, but capitalism without heart is destructive.

So listen here to the first part of Sean Stephenson's inspirational presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2016.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/create-attraction-connection-overcome-insecurity-part-1-of-3

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]]> 1366 no My 5 Biggest Take-Away's From 2018 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-5-biggest-take-aways-from-2018 ...and how I'm going to dominate 2019 On today's episode Russell explains what his five biggest takeaways from 2018 were and why. Here is a list of the five takeaways he talks about in this episode: Food as fuel The power of challenge funnels Transitioning from all-star to coach Understanding the difference between strategic thinkers, managers, and doers. And creating different front ends for your company that aren't you. Listen here to find out why these are Russell's biggest takeaways from 2018. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-5-biggest-take-away-s-from-2018 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Jan 2019 09:00:00 -0000 My 5 Biggest Take-Away's From 2018 full 169 Russell Brunson | YAP Media …and how I’m going to dominate 2019 ...and how I'm going to dominate 2019 On today's episode Russell explains what his five biggest takeaways from 2018 were and why. Here is a list of the five takeaways he talks about in this episode: Food as fuel The power of challenge funnels Transitioning from all-star to coach Understanding the difference between strategic thinkers, managers, and doers. And creating different front ends for your company that aren't you. Listen here to find out why these are Russell's biggest takeaways from 2018. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-5-biggest-take-away-s-from-2018 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices ...and how I'm going to dominate 2019

On today's episode Russell explains what his five biggest takeaways from 2018 were and why. Here is a list of the five takeaways he talks about in this episode:

  • Food as fuel
  • The power of challenge funnels
  • Transitioning from all-star to coach
  • Understanding the difference between strategic thinkers, managers, and doers.
  • And creating different front ends for your company that aren't you.

Listen here to find out why these are Russell's biggest takeaways from 2018.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-5-biggest-take-away-s-from-2018

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]]> 1935 no When Your Worst Day Becomes Your Best Day https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/when-your-worst-day-becomes-your-best-day Reflecting back on the darkest day of my life, and how necessary it was for me to become who I am today. On Today's episode Russell talks about his darkest time and how that lead him to all the good things in his life. Here are some of the inspirational things you will here in this episode: Why losing in the state wrestling championship senior year of high school made it possible for Russell to become everything he is today. How he was able to pull himself up and work harder than ever before to try and become the best. And why we should try to look at our hard times as good learning experiences and how they could be just what we need to become everything we want to be. So listen here to find out why not being state champ senior year of high school led Russell to where he is now. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/when-your-worst-day-becomes-your-best-day Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 31 Dec 2018 09:00:00 -0000 When Your Worst Day Becomes Your Best Day full 168 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Reflecting back on the darkest day of my life, and how necessary it was for me to become who I am today. Reflecting back on the darkest day of my life, and how necessary it was for me to become who I am today. On Today's episode Russell talks about his darkest time and how that lead him to all the good things in his life. Here are some of the inspirational things you will here in this episode: Why losing in the state wrestling championship senior year of high school made it possible for Russell to become everything he is today. How he was able to pull himself up and work harder than ever before to try and become the best. And why we should try to look at our hard times as good learning experiences and how they could be just what we need to become everything we want to be. So listen here to find out why not being state champ senior year of high school led Russell to where he is now. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/when-your-worst-day-becomes-your-best-day Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Reflecting back on the darkest day of my life, and how necessary it was for me to become who I am today.

On Today's episode Russell talks about his darkest time and how that lead him to all the good things in his life. Here are some of the inspirational things you will here in this episode:

  • Why losing in the state wrestling championship senior year of high school made it possible for Russell to become everything he is today.
  • How he was able to pull himself up and work harder than ever before to try and become the best.
  • And why we should try to look at our hard times as good learning experiences and how they could be just what we need to become everything we want to be.

So listen here to find out why not being state champ senior year of high school led Russell to where he is now.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/when-your-worst-day-becomes-your-best-day

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]]> 1145 no How To Fortify Yourself Against Your Weak Spots https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-fortify-yourself-against-your-weak-spots As you're planning your year this year, make sure to spend time focusing on this important aspect as well. On this episode Russell talks about having an end of year goal meeting with his partners and what it means to fortify yourself against your weaknesses. Here are some of the amazing and insightful things to listen for in today's episode: Find out why Russell started off the end of the year meeting with Clickfunnels partners asking what the things are that could take down Clickfunnels. How Russell has learned from some weaknesses his former businesses have had and how he is fortifying himself against them with Clickfunnels. Why you should fortify yourself in all aspects of your life, including business, your marriage, your relationships, etc. So listen here to find out why it's so important to look for your own weak spots and to fortify your business against them. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-fortify-yourself-against-your-weak-spots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:00:00 -0000 How To Fortify Yourself Against Your Weak Spots full 167 Russell Brunson | YAP Media As you’re planning your year this year, make sure to spend time focusing on this important aspect as well. As you're planning your year this year, make sure to spend time focusing on this important aspect as well. On this episode Russell talks about having an end of year goal meeting with his partners and what it means to fortify yourself against your weaknesses. Here are some of the amazing and insightful things to listen for in today's episode: Find out why Russell started off the end of the year meeting with Clickfunnels partners asking what the things are that could take down Clickfunnels. How Russell has learned from some weaknesses his former businesses have had and how he is fortifying himself against them with Clickfunnels. Why you should fortify yourself in all aspects of your life, including business, your marriage, your relationships, etc. So listen here to find out why it's so important to look for your own weak spots and to fortify your business against them. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-fortify-yourself-against-your-weak-spots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As you're planning your year this year, make sure to spend time focusing on this important aspect as well.

On this episode Russell talks about having an end of year goal meeting with his partners and what it means to fortify yourself against your weaknesses. Here are some of the amazing and insightful things to listen for in today's episode:

  • Find out why Russell started off the end of the year meeting with Clickfunnels partners asking what the things are that could take down Clickfunnels.
  • How Russell has learned from some weaknesses his former businesses have had and how he is fortifying himself against them with Clickfunnels.
  • Why you should fortify yourself in all aspects of your life, including business, your marriage, your relationships, etc.

So listen here to find out why it's so important to look for your own weak spots and to fortify your business against them.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-fortify-yourself-against-your-weak-spots

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]]> 605 no Don't Discount The Education You're Getting From Each Of Your Failures https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/dont-discount-the-education-youre-getting-from-each-of-your-failures A late night story session with Russell, talking about more of his failures that built his foundation. On this episode Russell looks back on things he did over a decade ago, and why he is bringing some of those things back, even though they were initially failures. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Find out what kinds of things Russell heard were good ideas, which he then tried, but didn't have success with. See why some of those things he considered failures are coming in handy now that he has Clickfunnels. And find out why it's important to try things, even if you fail at them. So listen here to find out why even when you consider something a failure, it has been a valuable part of your journey. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/don-t-discount-the-education-you-re-getting-from-each-of-your-failures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 24 Dec 2018 09:00:00 -0000 Don't Discount The Education You're Getting From Each Of Your Failures full 166 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A late night story session with Russell, talking about more of his failures that built his foundation. A late night story session with Russell, talking about more of his failures that built his foundation. On this episode Russell looks back on things he did over a decade ago, and why he is bringing some of those things back, even though they were initially failures. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Find out what kinds of things Russell heard were good ideas, which he then tried, but didn't have success with. See why some of those things he considered failures are coming in handy now that he has Clickfunnels. And find out why it's important to try things, even if you fail at them. So listen here to find out why even when you consider something a failure, it has been a valuable part of your journey. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/don-t-discount-the-education-you-re-getting-from-each-of-your-failures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A late night story session with Russell, talking about more of his failures that built his foundation.

On this episode Russell looks back on things he did over a decade ago, and why he is bringing some of those things back, even though they were initially failures. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Find out what kinds of things Russell heard were good ideas, which he then tried, but didn't have success with.
  • See why some of those things he considered failures are coming in handy now that he has Clickfunnels.
  • And find out why it's important to try things, even if you fail at them.

So listen here to find out why even when you consider something a failure, it has been a valuable part of your journey.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/don-t-discount-the-education-you-re-getting-from-each-of-your-failures

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]]> 962 no WARNING: Don't Stop Fueling Your Fire https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/warning-dont-stop-fueling-your-fire If you don't want your successful business to die, heed this warning now. On today's episode Russell sends out a warning of why you can never stop fueling your fire. Here is some of the insightful advice in this episode: Find out how Russell learned to always fuel the fire even when he wasn't ready to sell his customers something. See what kinds of things you can be doing to keep yourself relevant in the eyes of your customers. And find out why even when you're successful with a huge following you need to continually put fuel on the fire. So listen here to find out some of the ways Russell fuels his fire, despite having millions of followers between all the platforms. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/warning-don-t-stop-fueling-your-fire Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Dec 2018 09:00:00 -0000 WARNING: Don't Stop Fueling Your Fire full 165 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you don’t want your successful business to die, heed this warning now. If you don't want your successful business to die, heed this warning now. On today's episode Russell sends out a warning of why you can never stop fueling your fire. Here is some of the insightful advice in this episode: Find out how Russell learned to always fuel the fire even when he wasn't ready to sell his customers something. See what kinds of things you can be doing to keep yourself relevant in the eyes of your customers. And find out why even when you're successful with a huge following you need to continually put fuel on the fire. So listen here to find out some of the ways Russell fuels his fire, despite having millions of followers between all the platforms. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/warning-don-t-stop-fueling-your-fire Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you don't want your successful business to die, heed this warning now.

On today's episode Russell sends out a warning of why you can never stop fueling your fire. Here is some of the insightful advice in this episode:

  • Find out how Russell learned to always fuel the fire even when he wasn't ready to sell his customers something.
  • See what kinds of things you can be doing to keep yourself relevant in the eyes of your customers.
  • And find out why even when you're successful with a huge following you need to continually put fuel on the fire.

So listen here to find out some of the ways Russell fuels his fire, despite having millions of followers between all the platforms.

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]]> 536 no How To Be The Best Possible Coach For Your Dream Student https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-be-the-best-possible-coach-for-your-dream-student You may be doing something that's holding yourself, and the person you're trying to serve, back. On today's special Thanksgiving day episode Russell talks about why it's okay for people you are coaching to seek out coaches that can help them with things that you cannot. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear from Russell on Thanksgiving. How Russell's niece seeking a new gymnastic coach relates to marketing coaches. Why as a coach you should allow your students to seek help from others who might be more helpful with certain aspects that you are not. And finally, why seeking significance can actually hinder your ability to achieve it. And only after you make the switch to service and contribution are you able to achieve significance. So listen here to find out why you should always be looking to help your clients, even if that means they need to go to someone else for guidance. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-be-the-best-possible-coach-for-your-dream-student Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 17 Dec 2018 09:00:00 -0000 How To Be The Best Possible Coach For Your Dream Student full 164 Russell Brunson | YAP Media You may be doing something that’s holding yourself, and the person you’re trying to serve, back. You may be doing something that's holding yourself, and the person you're trying to serve, back. On today's special Thanksgiving day episode Russell talks about why it's okay for people you are coaching to seek out coaches that can help them with things that you cannot. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear from Russell on Thanksgiving. How Russell's niece seeking a new gymnastic coach relates to marketing coaches. Why as a coach you should allow your students to seek help from others who might be more helpful with certain aspects that you are not. And finally, why seeking significance can actually hinder your ability to achieve it. And only after you make the switch to service and contribution are you able to achieve significance. So listen here to find out why you should always be looking to help your clients, even if that means they need to go to someone else for guidance. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-be-the-best-possible-coach-for-your-dream-student Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices You may be doing something that's holding yourself, and the person you're trying to serve, back.

On today's special Thanksgiving day episode Russell talks about why it's okay for people you are coaching to seek out coaches that can help them with things that you cannot. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear from Russell on Thanksgiving.

  • How Russell's niece seeking a new gymnastic coach relates to marketing coaches.
  • Why as a coach you should allow your students to seek help from others who might be more helpful with certain aspects that you are not.
  • And finally, why seeking significance can actually hinder your ability to achieve it. And only after you make the switch to service and contribution are you able to achieve significance.

So listen here to find out why you should always be looking to help your clients, even if that means they need to go to someone else for guidance.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-be-the-best-possible-coach-for-your-dream-student

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]]> 1040 no How Would You Clone Yourself... If You Had To? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-would-you-clone-yourself-if-you-had-to All of us have a unique ability that seems impossible to clone, but what if you could clone it? Let me show you what I'm doing. On today's episode Russell talks about how he is attempting to clone himself, and how that is going to give him more freedom. Here are some of the outstanding insights in this episode: Find out why Russell is finally building out his speaker team, after a year since the idea originally surfaced. Russell asks the question how you would clone yourself to get more freedom, while still scaling your company. And see how many speakers it will take to replace Russell, and why he should have done this from the beginning of Clickfunnels. So listen here to find out how Russell is cloning himself, and why you should consider doing something similar. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-would-you-clone-yourself-if-you-had-to Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:00:00 -0000 How Would You Clone Yourself... If You Had To? full 163 Russell Brunson | YAP Media All of us have a unique ability that seems impossible to clone, but what if you could clone it? Let me show you what I’m doing. All of us have a unique ability that seems impossible to clone, but what if you could clone it? Let me show you what I'm doing. On today's episode Russell talks about how he is attempting to clone himself, and how that is going to give him more freedom. Here are some of the outstanding insights in this episode: Find out why Russell is finally building out his speaker team, after a year since the idea originally surfaced. Russell asks the question how you would clone yourself to get more freedom, while still scaling your company. And see how many speakers it will take to replace Russell, and why he should have done this from the beginning of Clickfunnels. So listen here to find out how Russell is cloning himself, and why you should consider doing something similar. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-would-you-clone-yourself-if-you-had-to Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices All of us have a unique ability that seems impossible to clone, but what if you could clone it? Let me show you what I'm doing.

On today's episode Russell talks about how he is attempting to clone himself, and how that is going to give him more freedom. Here are some of the outstanding insights in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell is finally building out his speaker team, after a year since the idea originally surfaced.
  • Russell asks the question how you would clone yourself to get more freedom, while still scaling your company.
  • And see how many speakers it will take to replace Russell, and why he should have done this from the beginning of Clickfunnels.

So listen here to find out how Russell is cloning himself, and why you should consider doing something similar.

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]]> 569 no DON'T WASTE THE STORY https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/dont-waste-the-story In the times in your life when you win, and the times in your life when you lose; the only real purpose is for you to capture a story to help more people. On this episode Russell talks about his experience at Entrepreneur of the Year, and why he is grateful he didn't win. Here are some of the insightful things you will hear on today's episode: How the Entrepreneur of the Year event is similar to a body building competition. How Russell plans to use the story of not winning the award in the future. And why you should look for every opportunity to add to your story, whether your winning or losing. So listen here to find out how The Entrepreneur of the Year Awards compares to body building competitions, and why Russell feels grateful to lose. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/don-t-waste-the-story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:00:00 -0000 DON'T WASTE THE STORY full 162 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In the times in your life when you win, and the times in your life when you lose; the only real purpose is for you to capture a story to help more people. In the times in your life when you win, and the times in your life when you lose; the only real purpose is for you to capture a story to help more people. On this episode Russell talks about his experience at Entrepreneur of the Year, and why he is grateful he didn't win. Here are some of the insightful things you will hear on today's episode: How the Entrepreneur of the Year event is similar to a body building competition. How Russell plans to use the story of not winning the award in the future. And why you should look for every opportunity to add to your story, whether your winning or losing. So listen here to find out how The Entrepreneur of the Year Awards compares to body building competitions, and why Russell feels grateful to lose. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/don-t-waste-the-story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In the times in your life when you win, and the times in your life when you lose; the only real purpose is for you to capture a story to help more people.

On this episode Russell talks about his experience at Entrepreneur of the Year, and why he is grateful he didn't win. Here are some of the insightful things you will hear on today's episode:

  • How the Entrepreneur of the Year event is similar to a body building competition.
  • How Russell plans to use the story of not winning the award in the future.
  • And why you should look for every opportunity to add to your story, whether your winning or losing.

So listen here to find out how The Entrepreneur of the Year Awards compares to body building competitions, and why Russell feels grateful to lose.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/don-t-waste-the-story

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]]> 977 no The Night Before 10XSecrets.com Went Live... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-night-before-10xsecretscom-went-live A few of my final thoughts at 2:36 in the morning, before we launch the 10X Secrets funnel. On this episode Russell talks about his backstory and how he learned how to persuade people to buy, and how you can learn to do it too because the 10x Secrets product was about to launch. Here are some of the super awesome things in today's episode: Who Russell learned the art of closing from and how you can have access to the exact same course. What kinds of things are included in the new 10x Secrets course. And how if you pay attention to the buying process of the 10x Secrets course, you can learn how it was done. So listen here to find out why the 10x Secrets product is special, and why Russell is so excited about it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-night-before-10xsecrets-com-went-live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Dec 2018 09:00:00 -0000 The Night Before 10XSecrets.com Went Live... full 161 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A few of my final thoughts at 2:36 in the morning, before we launch the 10X Secrets funnel. A few of my final thoughts at 2:36 in the morning, before we launch the 10X Secrets funnel. On this episode Russell talks about his backstory and how he learned how to persuade people to buy, and how you can learn to do it too because the 10x Secrets product was about to launch. Here are some of the super awesome things in today's episode: Who Russell learned the art of closing from and how you can have access to the exact same course. What kinds of things are included in the new 10x Secrets course. And how if you pay attention to the buying process of the 10x Secrets course, you can learn how it was done. So listen here to find out why the 10x Secrets product is special, and why Russell is so excited about it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-night-before-10xsecrets-com-went-live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A few of my final thoughts at 2:36 in the morning, before we launch the 10X Secrets funnel.

On this episode Russell talks about his backstory and how he learned how to persuade people to buy, and how you can learn to do it too because the 10x Secrets product was about to launch. Here are some of the super awesome things in today's episode:

  • Who Russell learned the art of closing from and how you can have access to the exact same course.
  • What kinds of things are included in the new 10x Secrets course.
  • And how if you pay attention to the buying process of the 10x Secrets course, you can learn how it was done.

So listen here to find out why the 10x Secrets product is special, and why Russell is so excited about it.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-night-before-10xsecrets-com-went-live

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]]> 603 no The Unboxing Funnel https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-unboxing-funnel A cool new way to look at how you structure your sales funnel. On this episode Russell talks about a new kind of funnel he's been developing for the 10x Secrets launch, called the Unboxing Funnel. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: What an Unboxing Funnel actually is. How you can use the Unboxing Funnel in addition to the webinars you already have to sell the same products. And how this funnel can allow new customers to come in, who you would be unable to close on a $1,000 webinar funnel. So listen here to find out what an Unboxing Funnel is and you can use it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-unboxing-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 Dec 2018 09:00:00 -0000 The Unboxing Funnel full 160 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A cool new way to look at how you structure your sales funnel. A cool new way to look at how you structure your sales funnel. On this episode Russell talks about a new kind of funnel he's been developing for the 10x Secrets launch, called the Unboxing Funnel. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: What an Unboxing Funnel actually is. How you can use the Unboxing Funnel in addition to the webinars you already have to sell the same products. And how this funnel can allow new customers to come in, who you would be unable to close on a $1,000 webinar funnel. So listen here to find out what an Unboxing Funnel is and you can use it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-unboxing-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A cool new way to look at how you structure your sales funnel.

On this episode Russell talks about a new kind of funnel he's been developing for the 10x Secrets launch, called the Unboxing Funnel. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • What an Unboxing Funnel actually is.
  • How you can use the Unboxing Funnel in addition to the webinars you already have to sell the same products.
  • And how this funnel can allow new customers to come in, who you would be unable to close on a $1,000 webinar funnel.

So listen here to find out what an Unboxing Funnel is and you can use it.

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]]> 1167 no He Who Has Ears, Let Him Hear... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/he-who-has-ears-let-him-hear A scriptural lesson that applies directly to your business. On today's episode Russell talks about dropping hints about cool things while describing other things, much like Jesus Christ while telling parables in the Bible. Here are some of the awesome things you will find in this episode: Why many people miss some of the amazing hints Russell drops while telling everyone about cool things. What it means to listen with different ears. And how Russell finally figured out how to listen to the courses he was buying differently. So listen here to find out you can get even more awesome information from Russell if you just listen a little differently. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/he-who-has-ears-let-him-hear Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:00:00 -0000 He Who Has Ears, Let Him Hear... full 159 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A scriptural lesson that applies directly to your business. A scriptural lesson that applies directly to your business. On today's episode Russell talks about dropping hints about cool things while describing other things, much like Jesus Christ while telling parables in the Bible. Here are some of the awesome things you will find in this episode: Why many people miss some of the amazing hints Russell drops while telling everyone about cool things. What it means to listen with different ears. And how Russell finally figured out how to listen to the courses he was buying differently. So listen here to find out you can get even more awesome information from Russell if you just listen a little differently. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/he-who-has-ears-let-him-hear Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A scriptural lesson that applies directly to your business.

On today's episode Russell talks about dropping hints about cool things while describing other things, much like Jesus Christ while telling parables in the Bible. Here are some of the awesome things you will find in this episode:

  • Why many people miss some of the amazing hints Russell drops while telling everyone about cool things.
  • What it means to listen with different ears.
  • And how Russell finally figured out how to listen to the courses he was buying differently.

So listen here to find out you can get even more awesome information from Russell if you just listen a little differently.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/he-who-has-ears-let-him-hear

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]]> 535 no My Conversation With The Friendly Giant (Part 2 of 2) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-2-of-2 Listen to part two of my private coaching session with Nic Fitzgerald. The lessons I shared with him here are the same ones I would share with you if we could meet face to face. On today's episode Russell continues his chat with Nick Fitzgerald and gives him a list of seven things he can do to help his business grow. Here are some of the awesome things to look forward to in this episode: What a few things that Nick got close to doing totally right, but missed a few key elements. How Nick can collaborate with others in the Two Comma Club X to be able to grow his customer list. And how Russell went from being a nobody, to having Tony Robbins call him to ask for help and how Nick can use that advice to advance his own business. So listen here to find out what the 7 things are that Nick and anyone else can do to grow a business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:00:00 -0000 My Conversation With The Friendly Giant (Part 2 of 2) full 158 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen to part two of my private coaching session with Nic Fitzgerald. The lessons I shared with him here are the same ones I would share with you if we could meet face to face. Listen to part two of my private coaching session with Nic Fitzgerald. The lessons I shared with him here are the same ones I would share with you if we could meet face to face. On today's episode Russell continues his chat with Nick Fitzgerald and gives him a list of seven things he can do to help his business grow. Here are some of the awesome things to look forward to in this episode: What a few things that Nick got close to doing totally right, but missed a few key elements. How Nick can collaborate with others in the Two Comma Club X to be able to grow his customer list. And how Russell went from being a nobody, to having Tony Robbins call him to ask for help and how Nick can use that advice to advance his own business. So listen here to find out what the 7 things are that Nick and anyone else can do to grow a business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-2-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen to part two of my private coaching session with Nic Fitzgerald. The lessons I shared with him here are the same ones I would share with you if we could meet face to face.

On today's episode Russell continues his chat with Nick Fitzgerald and gives him a list of seven things he can do to help his business grow. Here are some of the awesome things to look forward to in this episode:

  • What a few things that Nick got close to doing totally right, but missed a few key elements.
  • How Nick can collaborate with others in the Two Comma Club X to be able to grow his customer list.
  • And how Russell went from being a nobody, to having Tony Robbins call him to ask for help and how Nick can use that advice to advance his own business.

So listen here to find out what the 7 things are that Nick and anyone else can do to grow a business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-2-of-2

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]]> 1924 no My Conversation With The Friendly Giant (Part 1 of 2) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-1-of-2 A special conversation I had on stage at the Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student Nic Fitzgerald. On this episode Russell talks to his childhood friend, Nick Fitzgerald about helping him go from being in a technician position to being in an entrepreneurial position. Here are some of the inspiring thing in this episode: Find out how Russell found out his childhood friend was in desperate need of help and what he offered to do for him. How Nick was able to make to Funnel Hacking Live via credit card, and then spent $1800 on a program without telling his wife. And why being on the program helped Nick be able to ask a client for $25,000 on a project, when that was his previous yearly income. So listen here to find out how Russell was able to help Nick achieve his entrepreneurial dreams. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 21 Nov 2018 09:00:00 -0000 My Conversation With The Friendly Giant (Part 1 of 2) full 157 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A special conversation I had on stage at the Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student Nic Fitzgerald. A special conversation I had on stage at the Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student Nic Fitzgerald. On this episode Russell talks to his childhood friend, Nick Fitzgerald about helping him go from being in a technician position to being in an entrepreneurial position. Here are some of the inspiring thing in this episode: Find out how Russell found out his childhood friend was in desperate need of help and what he offered to do for him. How Nick was able to make to Funnel Hacking Live via credit card, and then spent $1800 on a program without telling his wife. And why being on the program helped Nick be able to ask a client for $25,000 on a project, when that was his previous yearly income. So listen here to find out how Russell was able to help Nick achieve his entrepreneurial dreams. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-1-of-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A special conversation I had on stage at the Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student Nic Fitzgerald.

On this episode Russell talks to his childhood friend, Nick Fitzgerald about helping him go from being in a technician position to being in an entrepreneurial position. Here are some of the inspiring thing in this episode:

  • Find out how Russell found out his childhood friend was in desperate need of help and what he offered to do for him.
  • How Nick was able to make to Funnel Hacking Live via credit card, and then spent $1800 on a program without telling his wife.
  • And why being on the program helped Nick be able to ask a client for $25,000 on a project, when that was his previous yearly income.

So listen here to find out how Russell was able to help Nick achieve his entrepreneurial dreams.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-conversation-with-the-friendly-giant-part-1-of-2

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]]> 2839 no What If We Just Cut Everybody A Little Slack? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-if-we-just-cut-everybody-a-little-slack Some almost-incoherent thoughts on my way home from trick-or-treating. On today's episode Russell talks Halloween, and about trying to look at everybody in the world the way he looks at his youngest daughter, Norah. Here are some of the insightful thing you will hear on this episode: Find out why Halloween is not longer Russell's favorite holiday. Hear why watching Norah laugh caused Russell to change his perspective on how he sees other people. And find out why Liz Benney was nervous to sign on to have Russell coach her when she found out he was a religious person. Listen here to find out why Russell believes we need to serve everyone at the highest level possible without casting judgment on them first. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-if-we-just-cut-everybody-a-little-slack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:00:00 -0000 What If We Just Cut Everybody A Little Slack? full 156 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Some almost-incoherent thoughts on my way home from trick-or-treating. Some almost-incoherent thoughts on my way home from trick-or-treating. On today's episode Russell talks Halloween, and about trying to look at everybody in the world the way he looks at his youngest daughter, Norah. Here are some of the insightful thing you will hear on this episode: Find out why Halloween is not longer Russell's favorite holiday. Hear why watching Norah laugh caused Russell to change his perspective on how he sees other people. And find out why Liz Benney was nervous to sign on to have Russell coach her when she found out he was a religious person. Listen here to find out why Russell believes we need to serve everyone at the highest level possible without casting judgment on them first. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-if-we-just-cut-everybody-a-little-slack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Some almost-incoherent thoughts on my way home from trick-or-treating.

On today's episode Russell talks Halloween, and about trying to look at everybody in the world the way he looks at his youngest daughter, Norah. Here are some of the insightful thing you will hear on this episode:

  • Find out why Halloween is not longer Russell's favorite holiday.
  • Hear why watching Norah laugh caused Russell to change his perspective on how he sees other people.
  • And find out why Liz Benney was nervous to sign on to have Russell coach her when she found out he was a religious person.

Listen here to find out why Russell believes we need to serve everyone at the highest level possible without casting judgment on them first.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-if-we-just-cut-everybody-a-little-slack

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]]> 1049 no Behind The Scenes Of The New Traffic Secrets Book... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/behind-the-scenes-of-the-new-traffic-secrets-book Step #1 in the process of writing the new Traffic Secrets book. On this episode Russell talks about the process he does while writing his books. Also find out when the launch date will be for his latest book, Traffic Secrets. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear on today's episode: Why Russell started over while writing the Dotcom Secrets book. Find out why doing an event after deleting the first draft of the Expert Secrets book helped him come up with a better framework. And find out how he is beginning to write the Traffic Secrets book, and when you'll be able to get your hands on a copy of it. So listen here to find out what Russell goes through to write a book, and why you should consider buying the previous two books again when Traffic Secrets launches. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-the-new-traffic-secrets-book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:00:00 -0000 Behind The Scenes Of The New Traffic Secrets Book... full 155 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Step #1 in the process of writing the new Traffic Secrets book. Step #1 in the process of writing the new Traffic Secrets book. On this episode Russell talks about the process he does while writing his books. Also find out when the launch date will be for his latest book, Traffic Secrets. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear on today's episode: Why Russell started over while writing the Dotcom Secrets book. Find out why doing an event after deleting the first draft of the Expert Secrets book helped him come up with a better framework. And find out how he is beginning to write the Traffic Secrets book, and when you'll be able to get your hands on a copy of it. So listen here to find out what Russell goes through to write a book, and why you should consider buying the previous two books again when Traffic Secrets launches. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-the-new-traffic-secrets-book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Step #1 in the process of writing the new Traffic Secrets book.

On this episode Russell talks about the process he does while writing his books. Also find out when the launch date will be for his latest book, Traffic Secrets. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear on today's episode:

  • Why Russell started over while writing the Dotcom Secrets book.
  • Find out why doing an event after deleting the first draft of the Expert Secrets book helped him come up with a better framework.
  • And find out how he is beginning to write the Traffic Secrets book, and when you'll be able to get your hands on a copy of it.

So listen here to find out what Russell goes through to write a book, and why you should consider buying the previous two books again when Traffic Secrets launches.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-the-new-traffic-secrets-book

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]]> 845 no The Dream 100 (Part 3 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-dream-100-part-3-of-3 On today's episode we get to hear the final portion of Russell's presentation at Dream 100 Con. Here are some of the awesome things in this final piece: Hear as Russell goes into detail on how to dream 100 several different platform choices. Find out why you need to pick just one platform to obsess over at first, instead of trying to do all of them. And Find out how Brian Dean at Backlinko.com does SEO using the dream 100 as well, even though that's not what he calls it. So listen here to have everything you need to know about dream 100 from the final episode dedicated to Russell's presentation at Dana Derricks Dream 100 Con. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-dream-100-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:00:00 -0000 The Dream 100 (Part 3 of 3) full 154 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today’s episode we get to hear the final portion of Russell’s presentation at Dream 100 Con. On today's episode we get to hear the final portion of Russell's presentation at Dream 100 Con. Here are some of the awesome things in this final piece: Hear as Russell goes into detail on how to dream 100 several different platform choices. Find out why you need to pick just one platform to obsess over at first, instead of trying to do all of them. And Find out how Brian Dean at Backlinko.com does SEO using the dream 100 as well, even though that's not what he calls it. So listen here to have everything you need to know about dream 100 from the final episode dedicated to Russell's presentation at Dana Derricks Dream 100 Con. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-dream-100-part-3-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's episode we get to hear the final portion of Russell's presentation at Dream 100 Con. Here are some of the awesome things in this final piece:

  • Hear as Russell goes into detail on how to dream 100 several different platform choices.
  • Find out why you need to pick just one platform to obsess over at first, instead of trying to do all of them.
  • And Find out how Brian Dean at Backlinko.com does SEO using the dream 100 as well, even though that's not what he calls it.

So listen here to have everything you need to know about dream 100 from the final episode dedicated to Russell's presentation at Dana Derricks Dream 100 Con.

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]]> 2362 no The Dream 100 (Part 2 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-dream-100-part-2-of-3 Today we have part 2 of 3 where Russell speaks at Dream 100 Con about traffic and how to build your list. Here are some of the things you will hear in part 2: Find out the difference between hot, warm and cold traffic, and why you need to change how you get your word out to them. Why you need to build out your dream 100 list by knowing who everyone else is in your market and what they are doing at all times. And find out how phones are like TVs in 1965 and how you can use that to your advantage. So listen here to part 2 of 3 of Russell's super informative presentation at Dream 100 Con. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-dream-100-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 07 Nov 2018 09:00:00 -0000 The Dream 100 (Part 2 of 3) full 153 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today we have part 2 of 3 where Russell speaks at Dream 100 Con about traffic and how to build your list. Today we have part 2 of 3 where Russell speaks at Dream 100 Con about traffic and how to build your list. Here are some of the things you will hear in part 2: Find out the difference between hot, warm and cold traffic, and why you need to change how you get your word out to them. Why you need to build out your dream 100 list by knowing who everyone else is in your market and what they are doing at all times. And find out how phones are like TVs in 1965 and how you can use that to your advantage. So listen here to part 2 of 3 of Russell's super informative presentation at Dream 100 Con. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-dream-100-part-2-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today we have part 2 of 3 where Russell speaks at Dream 100 Con about traffic and how to build your list. Here are some of the things you will hear in part 2:

  • Find out the difference between hot, warm and cold traffic, and why you need to change how you get your word out to them.
  • Why you need to build out your dream 100 list by knowing who everyone else is in your market and what they are doing at all times.
  • And find out how phones are like TVs in 1965 and how you can use that to your advantage.

So listen here to part 2 of 3 of Russell's super informative presentation at Dream 100 Con.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-dream-100-part-2-of-3

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]]> 2240 no The Dream 100 (Part 1 of 3) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-dream-100-part-1-of-3 On today's very special 3 episode series Russell speaks at Dream 100 Con about traffic and how to build your list. Here are some of the awesome things in this portion: Find out how Russell got started building his list, and what he learned about spam free emailing. Hear why everyone around him made half a million dollars a month with Adsense while he was still just building his list. And find out how Russell figures out and narrows down who is dream client is with a simple diagram. So listen here to part 1 or 3 of Russell's super informative presentation at Dream 100 Con. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-dream-100-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 05 Nov 2018 09:00:00 -0000 The Dream 100 (Part 1 of 3) full 152 Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today's very special 3 episode series Russell speaks at Dream 100 Con about traffic and how to build your list. On today's very special 3 episode series Russell speaks at Dream 100 Con about traffic and how to build your list. Here are some of the awesome things in this portion: Find out how Russell got started building his list, and what he learned about spam free emailing. Hear why everyone around him made half a million dollars a month with Adsense while he was still just building his list. And find out how Russell figures out and narrows down who is dream client is with a simple diagram. So listen here to part 1 or 3 of Russell's super informative presentation at Dream 100 Con. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-dream-100-part-1-of-3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's very special 3 episode series Russell speaks at Dream 100 Con about traffic and how to build your list. Here are some of the awesome things in this portion:

  • Find out how Russell got started building his list, and what he learned about spam free emailing.
  • Hear why everyone around him made half a million dollars a month with Adsense while he was still just building his list.
  • And find out how Russell figures out and narrows down who is dream client is with a simple diagram.

So listen here to part 1 or 3 of Russell's super informative presentation at Dream 100 Con.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-dream-100-part-1-of-3

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]]> 2035 no How Are You Using Your Platform? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-are-you-using-your-platform Would you rather be like Conor McGregor or Kyle Snyder?... On today's episode Russell talks about using your platform in a positive or negative way. He touches on two recent examples, and how they were different. Listen here to find out the differences: How a recent televised fighting match went and why Russell thinks the two men involved used their platforms in the wrong way. How Kyle Snider was able to be in a similar situation at the recent Wrestling World Tournament, but used his platform for good. And why it's important to always use your platform in a positive way, and be a good role model for others. So listen below to find out how Russell plans to always use his platform as a way to inspire others. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-are-you-using-your-platform Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:00:00 -0000 How Are You Using Your Platform? full 151 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Would you rather be like Conor McGregor or Kyle Snyder?… Would you rather be like Conor McGregor or Kyle Snyder?... On today's episode Russell talks about using your platform in a positive or negative way. He touches on two recent examples, and how they were different. Listen here to find out the differences: How a recent televised fighting match went and why Russell thinks the two men involved used their platforms in the wrong way. How Kyle Snider was able to be in a similar situation at the recent Wrestling World Tournament, but used his platform for good. And why it's important to always use your platform in a positive way, and be a good role model for others. So listen below to find out how Russell plans to always use his platform as a way to inspire others. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-are-you-using-your-platform Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Would you rather be like Conor McGregor or Kyle Snyder?...

On today's episode Russell talks about using your platform in a positive or negative way. He touches on two recent examples, and how they were different. Listen here to find out the differences:

  • How a recent televised fighting match went and why Russell thinks the two men involved used their platforms in the wrong way.
  • How Kyle Snider was able to be in a similar situation at the recent Wrestling World Tournament, but used his platform for good.
  • And why it's important to always use your platform in a positive way, and be a good role model for others.

So listen below to find out how Russell plans to always use his platform as a way to inspire others.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-are-you-using-your-platform

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]]> 953 no The Little Known Secret Ingredient To Increase Conversions And Create Your Ads... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-little-known-secret-ingredient-to-increase-conversions-and-create-your-ads I don't want to spoil the surprise, but at the end of this I drop a bomb that'll change how you run ads forever. On this episode Russell talks about his experiences with Flip Hacking Live, his startup interview at the Dry Bar Comedy Club and why it's important to get b-roll footage. Here are some of the awesome things he talks about in this episode: What kind of mistakes he made at Justin and Tara Williams event, and what he would do differently. Why if Russell could start over, he would be a specialist rather than a generalist. And why it's so important to have tons of b-roll footage when you are ready to launch your product. So listen here to find out how Russell gets tons of b-roll footage, and why, in some ways, it's better to be a specialist. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-little-known-secret-ingredient-to-increase-conversions-and-create-your-ads Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Oct 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The Little Known Secret Ingredient To Increase Conversions And Create Your Ads... full 150 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I don’t want to spoil the surprise, but at the end of this I drop a bomb that’ll change how you run ads forever. I don't want to spoil the surprise, but at the end of this I drop a bomb that'll change how you run ads forever. On this episode Russell talks about his experiences with Flip Hacking Live, his startup interview at the Dry Bar Comedy Club and why it's important to get b-roll footage. Here are some of the awesome things he talks about in this episode: What kind of mistakes he made at Justin and Tara Williams event, and what he would do differently. Why if Russell could start over, he would be a specialist rather than a generalist. And why it's so important to have tons of b-roll footage when you are ready to launch your product. So listen here to find out how Russell gets tons of b-roll footage, and why, in some ways, it's better to be a specialist. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-little-known-secret-ingredient-to-increase-conversions-and-create-your-ads Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I don't want to spoil the surprise, but at the end of this I drop a bomb that'll change how you run ads forever.

On this episode Russell talks about his experiences with Flip Hacking Live, his startup interview at the Dry Bar Comedy Club and why it's important to get b-roll footage. Here are some of the awesome things he talks about in this episode:

  • What kind of mistakes he made at Justin and Tara Williams event, and what he would do differently.
  • Why if Russell could start over, he would be a specialist rather than a generalist.
  • And why it's so important to have tons of b-roll footage when you are ready to launch your product.

So listen here to find out how Russell gets tons of b-roll footage, and why, in some ways, it's better to be a specialist.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-little-known-secret-ingredient-to-increase-conversions-and-create-your-ads

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]]> 984 no Why Don't I Just Stop...? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-dont-i-just-stop Somedays it makes you question why you're still staying up late at night and waking up early to serve the audience that you love. On today's episode Russell talks about the mystery of why he continues to work so hard, even though the company would continue to thrive if he didn't. Here are some of the amazing things he goes over on this episode: What Russell thinks the answer is to a question his wife asked about why he continues to get stressed out and work extra hard, despite the company continuing to be successful. Why Russell hates significance, but still needs it. And what are the two things that Russell sees as his legacy. So listen here to find out why Russell continues to work hard and go the extra mile for a company that would continue to grow and be successful even if he stopped working so hard. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-don-t-i-just-stop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Why Don't I Just Stop...? full 149 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Somedays it makes you question why you’re still staying up late at night and waking up early to serve the audience that you love. Somedays it makes you question why you're still staying up late at night and waking up early to serve the audience that you love. On today's episode Russell talks about the mystery of why he continues to work so hard, even though the company would continue to thrive if he didn't. Here are some of the amazing things he goes over on this episode: What Russell thinks the answer is to a question his wife asked about why he continues to get stressed out and work extra hard, despite the company continuing to be successful. Why Russell hates significance, but still needs it. And what are the two things that Russell sees as his legacy. So listen here to find out why Russell continues to work hard and go the extra mile for a company that would continue to grow and be successful even if he stopped working so hard. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-don-t-i-just-stop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Somedays it makes you question why you're still staying up late at night and waking up early to serve the audience that you love.

On today's episode Russell talks about the mystery of why he continues to work so hard, even though the company would continue to thrive if he didn't. Here are some of the amazing things he goes over on this episode:

  • What Russell thinks the answer is to a question his wife asked about why he continues to get stressed out and work extra hard, despite the company continuing to be successful.
  • Why Russell hates significance, but still needs it.
  • And what are the two things that Russell sees as his legacy.

So listen here to find out why Russell continues to work hard and go the extra mile for a company that would continue to grow and be successful even if he stopped working so hard.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-don-t-i-just-stop

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]]> 776 no How To Use Music To Instantly Change Your State https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-use-music-to-instantly-change-your-state The secret trick I use to help my kids handle an entire day at school. On today's episode Russell talks about listening to music on the way to school to get his kids excited about the day. Here are some of the amazing things in this episode: Find out why listening to music on the way to school helps get Russell's kids excited about school, so they won't be miserable like he was when he was a kid. And why listening to a specific kind of music is the best and fastest way to get into the state you need to be in. So listen here to find out what music Russell listens to with his kids to get their energy levels high enough to make it through an entire school day. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-use-music-to-instantly-change-your-state Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:00:00 -0000 How To Use Music To Instantly Change Your State full 148 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The secret trick I use to help my kids handle an entire day at school. The secret trick I use to help my kids handle an entire day at school. On today's episode Russell talks about listening to music on the way to school to get his kids excited about the day. Here are some of the amazing things in this episode: Find out why listening to music on the way to school helps get Russell's kids excited about school, so they won't be miserable like he was when he was a kid. And why listening to a specific kind of music is the best and fastest way to get into the state you need to be in. So listen here to find out what music Russell listens to with his kids to get their energy levels high enough to make it through an entire school day. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-use-music-to-instantly-change-your-state Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The secret trick I use to help my kids handle an entire day at school.

On today's episode Russell talks about listening to music on the way to school to get his kids excited about the day. Here are some of the amazing things in this episode:

  • Find out why listening to music on the way to school helps get Russell's kids excited about school, so they won't be miserable like he was when he was a kid.
  • And why listening to a specific kind of music is the best and fastest way to get into the state you need to be in.

So listen here to find out what music Russell listens to with his kids to get their energy levels high enough to make it through an entire school day.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-use-music-to-instantly-change-your-state

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]]> 418 no How To Use "Kinda Like" Bridges With Your Hook https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-use-kinda-like-bridges-with-your-hook If you want an unfair advantage over all your competitors, use this... On today's episode Russell talks about what a "Kinda Like Bridge" is and how you can use them in presentations to help people understand a concept. Here are some of the other awesome things in this episode: Find out Russell's process of testing out new material before taking it to a large audience, like the 10x event. Hear an example of a kinda like bridge, and how Russell could use it. And find out how you can also use a kinda like bridge to encourage excitement during a presentation. So listen here to find out what a kinda like bridge is and how you can use it in a presentation. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-use-kinda-like-bridges-with-your-hook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 Oct 2018 08:00:00 -0000 How To Use "Kinda Like" Bridges With Your Hook full 147 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you want an unfair advantage over all your competitors, use this… If you want an unfair advantage over all your competitors, use this... On today's episode Russell talks about what a "Kinda Like Bridge" is and how you can use them in presentations to help people understand a concept. Here are some of the other awesome things in this episode: Find out Russell's process of testing out new material before taking it to a large audience, like the 10x event. Hear an example of a kinda like bridge, and how Russell could use it. And find out how you can also use a kinda like bridge to encourage excitement during a presentation. So listen here to find out what a kinda like bridge is and how you can use it in a presentation. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-use-kinda-like-bridges-with-your-hook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you want an unfair advantage over all your competitors, use this...

On today's episode Russell talks about what a "Kinda Like Bridge" is and how you can use them in presentations to help people understand a concept. Here are some of the other awesome things in this episode:

  • Find out Russell's process of testing out new material before taking it to a large audience, like the 10x event.
  • Hear an example of a kinda like bridge, and how Russell could use it.
  • And find out how you can also use a kinda like bridge to encourage excitement during a presentation.

So listen here to find out what a kinda like bridge is and how you can use it in a presentation.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-use-kinda-like-bridges-with-your-hook

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]]> 610 no Lean In... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/lean-in During your troubles you've got two options, run away or lean in. On this episode Russell talks about something his friend and former employee Steven Larsen said to him in passing, but had a big impact on him. Here are some of the awesome things to look forward to in this episode. What Steven meant when he told his sister to lean in, instead of giving up. What would be different in Russell's life if he hadn't chosen to lean in at different times. Why you should always lean in when times get hard instead of walking away. So listen here to find out what would be different in Russell's life if he had walked away instead of leaning in. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/lean-in Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Lean In... full 146 Russell Brunson | YAP Media During your troubles you’ve got two options, run away or lean in. During your troubles you've got two options, run away or lean in. On this episode Russell talks about something his friend and former employee Steven Larsen said to him in passing, but had a big impact on him. Here are some of the awesome things to look forward to in this episode. What Steven meant when he told his sister to lean in, instead of giving up. What would be different in Russell's life if he hadn't chosen to lean in at different times. Why you should always lean in when times get hard instead of walking away. So listen here to find out what would be different in Russell's life if he had walked away instead of leaning in. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/lean-in Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices During your troubles you've got two options, run away or lean in.

On this episode Russell talks about something his friend and former employee Steven Larsen said to him in passing, but had a big impact on him. Here are some of the awesome things to look forward to in this episode.

  • What Steven meant when he told his sister to lean in, instead of giving up.
  • What would be different in Russell's life if he hadn't chosen to lean in at different times.
  • Why you should always lean in when times get hard instead of walking away.

So listen here to find out what would be different in Russell's life if he had walked away instead of leaning in.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/lean-in

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]]> 1092 no My Big Take-Aways From 50,000 Feet In The Air https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-big-take-aways-from-50000-feet-in-the-air After SalesForce, the Pruvit jet, and Grant Cardone's plane; I'm seeing things a little differently now... On today's episode Russell talks about his whirlwind experience after the Dream Force event in San Francisco and how that helped with his vision to get to a billion dollars. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Find out how Russell got to be in two different private jets and why he was in 6 different cities in a matter of days. Why seeing his peers businesses doing well, gave Russell the motivation he needed to believe he could get to a billion dollars a year in sales. And why spending time with people who are where you want to be can help you get there. So listen here to find out what Russell learned while 50,000 feet in the air. And find out how to get your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live so you can be motivated and find the belief to achieve your business dreams. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-big-take-aways-from-50-000-feet-in-the-air Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Oct 2018 08:00:00 -0000 My Big Take-Aways From 50,000 Feet In The Air full 145 Russell Brunson | YAP Media After SalesForce, the Pruvit jet, and Grant Cardone’s plane; I’m seeing things a little differently now… After SalesForce, the Pruvit jet, and Grant Cardone's plane; I'm seeing things a little differently now... On today's episode Russell talks about his whirlwind experience after the Dream Force event in San Francisco and how that helped with his vision to get to a billion dollars. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Find out how Russell got to be in two different private jets and why he was in 6 different cities in a matter of days. Why seeing his peers businesses doing well, gave Russell the motivation he needed to believe he could get to a billion dollars a year in sales. And why spending time with people who are where you want to be can help you get there. So listen here to find out what Russell learned while 50,000 feet in the air. And find out how to get your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live so you can be motivated and find the belief to achieve your business dreams. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-big-take-aways-from-50-000-feet-in-the-air Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices After SalesForce, the Pruvit jet, and Grant Cardone's plane; I'm seeing things a little differently now...

On today's episode Russell talks about his whirlwind experience after the Dream Force event in San Francisco and how that helped with his vision to get to a billion dollars. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:

  • Find out how Russell got to be in two different private jets and why he was in 6 different cities in a matter of days.
  • Why seeing his peers businesses doing well, gave Russell the motivation he needed to believe he could get to a billion dollars a year in sales.
  • And why spending time with people who are where you want to be can help you get there.

So listen here to find out what Russell learned while 50,000 feet in the air. And find out how to get your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live so you can be motivated and find the belief to achieve your business dreams.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-big-take-aways-from-50-000-feet-in-the-air

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]]> 744 no The 13 Billion Dollar Secret I Learned At SalesForce Today... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-13-billion-dollar-secret-i-learned-at-salesforce-today Behind the scenes at SalesForce's DreamForce event in San Francisco. On this episode Russell talks about being in San Francisco for the Sales Force event and what he has learned. Here are some of the insightful things on this episode: How going to the Sales Force event was similar to seeing the state championship when Russell was in 8th grade. How Sales Force showed Russell why it was necessary to build an ecosystem to solidify your place as category king. Why Russell believes Clickfunnels could be as successful as Sales Force only faster. So listen here to find out what kind of things Russell is learning at Sales Force, and how those things could help you in your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-13-billion-dollar-secret-i-learned-at-salesforce-today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Oct 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The 13 Billion Dollar Secret I Learned At SalesForce Today... full 144 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes at SalesForce’s DreamForce event in San Francisco. Behind the scenes at SalesForce's DreamForce event in San Francisco. On this episode Russell talks about being in San Francisco for the Sales Force event and what he has learned. Here are some of the insightful things on this episode: How going to the Sales Force event was similar to seeing the state championship when Russell was in 8th grade. How Sales Force showed Russell why it was necessary to build an ecosystem to solidify your place as category king. Why Russell believes Clickfunnels could be as successful as Sales Force only faster. So listen here to find out what kind of things Russell is learning at Sales Force, and how those things could help you in your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-13-billion-dollar-secret-i-learned-at-salesforce-today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes at SalesForce's DreamForce event in San Francisco.

On this episode Russell talks about being in San Francisco for the Sales Force event and what he has learned. Here are some of the insightful things on this episode:

  • How going to the Sales Force event was similar to seeing the state championship when Russell was in 8th grade.
  • How Sales Force showed Russell why it was necessary to build an ecosystem to solidify your place as category king.
  • Why Russell believes Clickfunnels could be as successful as Sales Force only faster.

So listen here to find out what kind of things Russell is learning at Sales Force, and how those things could help you in your own business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-13-billion-dollar-secret-i-learned-at-salesforce-today

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]]> 1743 no Stay Coach-able https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/stay-coach-able The difference between being successful for a little bit and being successful for a long time. On this episode Russell talks about why he has continued to stay coach-able despite his success. Here are a few of the awesome things in this episode: Why it's so important to stay coach-able throughout your career. And how Russell was able to be coached by someone who technically pays him to be his coach. So listen here to find out who coached Russell, and why he loved it so much. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/stay-coach-able Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 21 Sep 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Stay Coach-able full 143 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The difference between being successful for a little bit and being successful for a long time. The difference between being successful for a little bit and being successful for a long time. On this episode Russell talks about why he has continued to stay coach-able despite his success. Here are a few of the awesome things in this episode: Why it's so important to stay coach-able throughout your career. And how Russell was able to be coached by someone who technically pays him to be his coach. So listen here to find out who coached Russell, and why he loved it so much. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/stay-coach-able Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The difference between being successful for a little bit and being successful for a long time.

On this episode Russell talks about why he has continued to stay coach-able despite his success. Here are a few of the awesome things in this episode:

  • Why it's so important to stay coach-able throughout your career.
  • And how Russell was able to be coached by someone who technically pays him to be his coach.

So listen here to find out who coached Russell, and why he loved it so much.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/stay-coach-able

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]]> 340 no The CEO Swap... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-ceo-swap The fastest way to knock off 12-18 months of your company's growth in less than 7 days. On today's episode Russell talks about having Brandon and Kaelin Poulin trade consulting with him, and how that turned into a CEO swap. Here are some of the amazing things to look forward to in this episode: Find out why swapping consulting turned into swapping CEO's and how it's beneficial for both companies. Find out why a CEO swap could actually work for your business as well. And hear how the CEO swap made it possible to quickly implement things that would have taken months to implement without it. So listen here to find out how a CEO swap could be beneficial for your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-ceo-swap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The CEO Swap... full 142 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The fastest way to knock off 12-18 months of your company’s growth in less than 7 days. The fastest way to knock off 12-18 months of your company's growth in less than 7 days. On today's episode Russell talks about having Brandon and Kaelin Poulin trade consulting with him, and how that turned into a CEO swap. Here are some of the amazing things to look forward to in this episode: Find out why swapping consulting turned into swapping CEO's and how it's beneficial for both companies. Find out why a CEO swap could actually work for your business as well. And hear how the CEO swap made it possible to quickly implement things that would have taken months to implement without it. So listen here to find out how a CEO swap could be beneficial for your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-ceo-swap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The fastest way to knock off 12-18 months of your company's growth in less than 7 days.

On today's episode Russell talks about having Brandon and Kaelin Poulin trade consulting with him, and how that turned into a CEO swap. Here are some of the amazing things to look forward to in this episode:

  • Find out why swapping consulting turned into swapping CEO's and how it's beneficial for both companies.
  • Find out why a CEO swap could actually work for your business as well.
  • And hear how the CEO swap made it possible to quickly implement things that would have taken months to implement without it.

So listen here to find out how a CEO swap could be beneficial for your business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-ceo-swap

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]]> 667 no The Hipster, The Hacker, And The Hustler https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-hipster-the-hacker-and-the-hustler The three essential personality types to launch any new startup. On this episode Russell talks about the three personality types you have to have for a startup company, and who each of them were with Clickfunnels. Here's some fun stuff from today's episode: What it means to have a hipster, a hacker, and a hustler in a company and what jobs they do. Why not having each of those things will result in it being harder to start your business. And find out why the founders in a startup are usually their own target audience. So listen here to find out if you're a hipster, hacker, or hustler, and which piece you're missing while trying to get your business off the ground. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-hipster-the-hacker-and-the-hustler Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 14 Sep 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The Hipster, The Hacker, And The Hustler full 141 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The three essential personality types to launch any new startup. The three essential personality types to launch any new startup. On this episode Russell talks about the three personality types you have to have for a startup company, and who each of them were with Clickfunnels. Here's some fun stuff from today's episode: What it means to have a hipster, a hacker, and a hustler in a company and what jobs they do. Why not having each of those things will result in it being harder to start your business. And find out why the founders in a startup are usually their own target audience. So listen here to find out if you're a hipster, hacker, or hustler, and which piece you're missing while trying to get your business off the ground. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-hipster-the-hacker-and-the-hustler Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The three essential personality types to launch any new startup.

On this episode Russell talks about the three personality types you have to have for a startup company, and who each of them were with Clickfunnels. Here's some fun stuff from today's episode:

  • What it means to have a hipster, a hacker, and a hustler in a company and what jobs they do.
  • Why not having each of those things will result in it being harder to start your business.
  • And find out why the founders in a startup are usually their own target audience.

So listen here to find out if you're a hipster, hacker, or hustler, and which piece you're missing while trying to get your business off the ground.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-hipster-the-hacker-and-the-hustler

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]]> 544 no Fitting The Content Into Your Context https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/fitting-the-content-into-your-context A really cool principle that I'm revisiting as I'm going into a consulting swap day. On this episode Russell talks about why he can't relate to people with information overload. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in today's episode: How Brandon Poulin helped Russell see what he's been doing all along, by saying something profound. How Russell is able to separate context and content to only use things that apply at that moment, and shelve everything else. And why it's important to know what context you need in your content in order to avoid information overload. So listen here to find out what strategy Russell uses to be able to retain all information, but only use the stuff within the correct context of what he's doing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/fitting-the-content-into-your-context Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Fitting The Content Into Your Context full 140 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A really cool principle that I’m revisiting as I’m going into a consulting swap day. A really cool principle that I'm revisiting as I'm going into a consulting swap day. On this episode Russell talks about why he can't relate to people with information overload. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in today's episode: How Brandon Poulin helped Russell see what he's been doing all along, by saying something profound. How Russell is able to separate context and content to only use things that apply at that moment, and shelve everything else. And why it's important to know what context you need in your content in order to avoid information overload. So listen here to find out what strategy Russell uses to be able to retain all information, but only use the stuff within the correct context of what he's doing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/fitting-the-content-into-your-context Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A really cool principle that I'm revisiting as I'm going into a consulting swap day.

On this episode Russell talks about why he can't relate to people with information overload. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in today's episode:

  • How Brandon Poulin helped Russell see what he's been doing all along, by saying something profound.
  • How Russell is able to separate context and content to only use things that apply at that moment, and shelve everything else.
  • And why it's important to know what context you need in your content in order to avoid information overload.

So listen here to find out what strategy Russell uses to be able to retain all information, but only use the stuff within the correct context of what he's doing.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/fitting-the-content-into-your-context

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]]> 777 no Keep Showing Up... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/keep-showing-up A cool lesson I learned from the author of "Girl, Wash Your Face" On today's episode Russell talks about meeting Dave Hollis and learning about who his wife is. He shares a story about how she wasn't an overnight success, but how she kept showing up. Here are some inspiring things on today's episode: How and where Russell met Dave Hollis and how it started him geeking out on everything Rachel Hollis is doing. Why Rachel Hollis found success, and why it's so important to keep showing up. So listen here to find out who Rachel Hollis is and how she is inspiring Russell, his wife, Collette, and woman everywhere. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/keep-showing-up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Sep 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Keep Showing Up... full 139 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A cool lesson I learned from the author of “Girl, Wash Your Face” A cool lesson I learned from the author of "Girl, Wash Your Face" On today's episode Russell talks about meeting Dave Hollis and learning about who his wife is. He shares a story about how she wasn't an overnight success, but how she kept showing up. Here are some inspiring things on today's episode: How and where Russell met Dave Hollis and how it started him geeking out on everything Rachel Hollis is doing. Why Rachel Hollis found success, and why it's so important to keep showing up. So listen here to find out who Rachel Hollis is and how she is inspiring Russell, his wife, Collette, and woman everywhere. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/keep-showing-up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A cool lesson I learned from the author of "Girl, Wash Your Face"

On today's episode Russell talks about meeting Dave Hollis and learning about who his wife is. He shares a story about how she wasn't an overnight success, but how she kept showing up. Here are some inspiring things on today's episode:

  • How and where Russell met Dave Hollis and how it started him geeking out on everything Rachel Hollis is doing.
  • Why Rachel Hollis found success, and why it's so important to keep showing up.

So listen here to find out who Rachel Hollis is and how she is inspiring Russell, his wife, Collette, and woman everywhere.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/keep-showing-up

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]]> 550 no The Secrets Behind The 30Days.com Funnel... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secrets-behind-the-30dayscom-funnel One of our highest performing funnels to date, find out what we did and why. Today's episode Russell talks about how the new 30 Days funnel was born and the process he and his team went through to get it up and running in such a short amount of time. Here are some of the amazing things you will get to hear in this episode: The history of why Russell reading a 30 day challenge 15 years ago and why he thought of it again. How this concept got going and what steps and people were behind the process. And how you can get involved in Russell's 30 Day challenge. So listen here to find out why this 30 day challenge has already been one of Clickfunnels most profitable funnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secrets-behind-the-30days-com-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The Secrets Behind The 30Days.com Funnel... full 138 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of our highest performing funnels to date, find out what we did and why. One of our highest performing funnels to date, find out what we did and why. Today's episode Russell talks about how the new 30 Days funnel was born and the process he and his team went through to get it up and running in such a short amount of time. Here are some of the amazing things you will get to hear in this episode: The history of why Russell reading a 30 day challenge 15 years ago and why he thought of it again. How this concept got going and what steps and people were behind the process. And how you can get involved in Russell's 30 Day challenge. So listen here to find out why this 30 day challenge has already been one of Clickfunnels most profitable funnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secrets-behind-the-30days-com-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of our highest performing funnels to date, find out what we did and why.

Today's episode Russell talks about how the new 30 Days funnel was born and the process he and his team went through to get it up and running in such a short amount of time. Here are some of the amazing things you will get to hear in this episode:

  • The history of why Russell reading a 30 day challenge 15 years ago and why he thought of it again.
  • How this concept got going and what steps and people were behind the process.
  • And how you can get involved in Russell's 30 Day challenge.

So listen here to find out why this 30 day challenge has already been one of Clickfunnels most profitable funnels.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secrets-behind-the-30days-com-funnel

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]]> 1137 no The Transition From All-Star To Coach https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-transition-from-all-star-to-coach A private voxer message I sent to my partners, talking about the next phase for me personally inside of the company. On this episode Russell shares a Voxer conversation he had with his partners and later his team on why he's reached the next phase in his journey to become a coach instead of an all-star. Here are the awesome things you will get to hear on today's episode: Why Russell feels like his career has reached a point where he doesn't know what his next goal should be. How going to a retreat with self-help guru's helped him figure out where his focus should be. And why being a coach instead of an all-star could be the way to grow his company from 100 million dollars a year to a billion dollars a year. So listen here to find out why Russell's next step is coaching his team so they can take the championship. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-transition-from-all-star-to-coach Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Sep 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The Transition From All-Star To Coach full 137 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A private voxer message I sent to my partners, talking about the next phase for me personally inside of the company. A private voxer message I sent to my partners, talking about the next phase for me personally inside of the company. On this episode Russell shares a Voxer conversation he had with his partners and later his team on why he's reached the next phase in his journey to become a coach instead of an all-star. Here are the awesome things you will get to hear on today's episode: Why Russell feels like his career has reached a point where he doesn't know what his next goal should be. How going to a retreat with self-help guru's helped him figure out where his focus should be. And why being a coach instead of an all-star could be the way to grow his company from 100 million dollars a year to a billion dollars a year. So listen here to find out why Russell's next step is coaching his team so they can take the championship. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-transition-from-all-star-to-coach Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A private voxer message I sent to my partners, talking about the next phase for me personally inside of the company.

On this episode Russell shares a Voxer conversation he had with his partners and later his team on why he's reached the next phase in his journey to become a coach instead of an all-star. Here are the awesome things you will get to hear on today's episode:

  • Why Russell feels like his career has reached a point where he doesn't know what his next goal should be.
  • How going to a retreat with self-help guru's helped him figure out where his focus should be.
  • And why being a coach instead of an all-star could be the way to grow his company from 100 million dollars a year to a billion dollars a year.

So listen here to find out why Russell's next step is coaching his team so they can take the championship.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-transition-from-all-star-to-coach

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]]> 925 no Hooks And Testing Your Material https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/hooks-and-testing-your-material A cool lesson I learned after a day of fly fishing, and a really cool story by the campfire. On this episode Russell talks about being on a retreat and learning to fly fish. He relates it to testing out new material and seeing what hooks people. Here are some of the cool things in today's episode: How trying to catch fish is similar to a comedian testing out new jokes, or an entrepreneur testing out new material. Why throwing out hook after hook after hook will help you figure out which one hits. And why it takes Russell a year to write one of his book, and how he tests out the material that will be in the book. So listen here to find out how if you set hooks and watch and learn from what the fish are doing, you can become a better fisherman, and a better marketer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/hooks-and-testing-your-material Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Hooks And Testing Your Material full 136 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A cool lesson I learned after a day of fly fishing, and a really cool story by the campfire. A cool lesson I learned after a day of fly fishing, and a really cool story by the campfire. On this episode Russell talks about being on a retreat and learning to fly fish. He relates it to testing out new material and seeing what hooks people. Here are some of the cool things in today's episode: How trying to catch fish is similar to a comedian testing out new jokes, or an entrepreneur testing out new material. Why throwing out hook after hook after hook will help you figure out which one hits. And why it takes Russell a year to write one of his book, and how he tests out the material that will be in the book. So listen here to find out how if you set hooks and watch and learn from what the fish are doing, you can become a better fisherman, and a better marketer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/hooks-and-testing-your-material Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A cool lesson I learned after a day of fly fishing, and a really cool story by the campfire.

On this episode Russell talks about being on a retreat and learning to fly fish. He relates it to testing out new material and seeing what hooks people. Here are some of the cool things in today's episode:

  • How trying to catch fish is similar to a comedian testing out new jokes, or an entrepreneur testing out new material.
  • Why throwing out hook after hook after hook will help you figure out which one hits.
  • And why it takes Russell a year to write one of his book, and how he tests out the material that will be in the book.

So listen here to find out how if you set hooks and watch and learn from what the fish are doing, you can become a better fisherman, and a better marketer.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/hooks-and-testing-your-material

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]]> 1533 no The Loneliest Job In The World... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-loneliest-job-in-the-world But everything changed for me when I discovered ONE thing during my business journey. Listen to how I handled and overcame feeling like I was in "The Loneliest Job In The World". On today's episode Russell talks about why being an entrepreneur is the loneliest job in the world. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Why it's hard to find support and others like you when you first get into the business of being an entrepreneur. Why going to events made it easier for Russell to connect with others like him, and to help him find vendors to do the things he couldn't. And why it's so important to go to Funnel Hacking Live, especially when you are first getting started, and why it's one of the best events in marketing ever. So listen here to find out why you need to attend events, and how you can get your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-loneliest-job-in-the-world Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The Loneliest Job In The World... full 135 Russell Brunson | YAP Media But everything changed for me when I discovered ONE thing during my business journey. Listen to how I handled and overcame feeling like I was in “The Loneliest Job In The World”. But everything changed for me when I discovered ONE thing during my business journey. Listen to how I handled and overcame feeling like I was in "The Loneliest Job In The World". On today's episode Russell talks about why being an entrepreneur is the loneliest job in the world. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Why it's hard to find support and others like you when you first get into the business of being an entrepreneur. Why going to events made it easier for Russell to connect with others like him, and to help him find vendors to do the things he couldn't. And why it's so important to go to Funnel Hacking Live, especially when you are first getting started, and why it's one of the best events in marketing ever. So listen here to find out why you need to attend events, and how you can get your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-loneliest-job-in-the-world Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices But everything changed for me when I discovered ONE thing during my business journey. Listen to how I handled and overcame feeling like I was in "The Loneliest Job In The World".

On today's episode Russell talks about why being an entrepreneur is the loneliest job in the world. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why it's hard to find support and others like you when you first get into the business of being an entrepreneur.
  • Why going to events made it easier for Russell to connect with others like him, and to help him find vendors to do the things he couldn't.
  • And why it's so important to go to Funnel Hacking Live, especially when you are first getting started, and why it's one of the best events in marketing ever.

So listen here to find out why you need to attend events, and how you can get your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-loneliest-job-in-the-world

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]]> 2182 no Why Blackmailing Your Dream Partners Is A Bad Strategy... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-blackmailing-your-dream-partners-is-a-bad-strategy How Alex Becker got me to think he's literally the coolest person on earth by just being a cool person. On today's episode Russell talks about the difference between trying to build a relationship with someone the wrong way and the right way. Here is some of the awesome stuff you will hear on today's episode: What has happened to Russell 3 times now while trying to buy domains. Why extorting money from someone is guaranteed to backfire when trying to build a relationship. And hear an example of how you can actually build a good relationship with Russell, and you could both benefit. So listen here to find out why extorting money from someone is never a good way to build a relationship. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-blackmailing-your-dream-partners-is-a-bad-strategy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Why Blackmailing Your Dream Partners Is A Bad Strategy... full 134 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How Alex Becker got me to think he’s literally the coolest person on earth by just being a cool person. How Alex Becker got me to think he's literally the coolest person on earth by just being a cool person. On today's episode Russell talks about the difference between trying to build a relationship with someone the wrong way and the right way. Here is some of the awesome stuff you will hear on today's episode: What has happened to Russell 3 times now while trying to buy domains. Why extorting money from someone is guaranteed to backfire when trying to build a relationship. And hear an example of how you can actually build a good relationship with Russell, and you could both benefit. So listen here to find out why extorting money from someone is never a good way to build a relationship. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-blackmailing-your-dream-partners-is-a-bad-strategy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How Alex Becker got me to think he's literally the coolest person on earth by just being a cool person.

On today's episode Russell talks about the difference between trying to build a relationship with someone the wrong way and the right way. Here is some of the awesome stuff you will hear on today's episode:

  • What has happened to Russell 3 times now while trying to buy domains.
  • Why extorting money from someone is guaranteed to backfire when trying to build a relationship.
  • And hear an example of how you can actually build a good relationship with Russell, and you could both benefit.

So listen here to find out why extorting money from someone is never a good way to build a relationship.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-blackmailing-your-dream-partners-is-a-bad-strategy

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]]> 420 no Become A Hero Maker... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/become-a-hero-maker If you master this, your army will be amazing. On today's episode Russell talks about a friend of his that passed away over the weekend and the legacy that he leaves behind. Here are some of the inspiring things in this episode: How the death of a friend inspired Russell to think about his own legacy. What it means to become a hero maker. Why Russell hopes to leave the same kind of legacy behind that Mark Hoverson has left. So listen here to find out why it's important to lift others up and create an army of heroes. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/become-a-hero-maker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Become A Hero Maker... full 133 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you master this, your army will be amazing. If you master this, your army will be amazing. On today's episode Russell talks about a friend of his that passed away over the weekend and the legacy that he leaves behind. Here are some of the inspiring things in this episode: How the death of a friend inspired Russell to think about his own legacy. What it means to become a hero maker. Why Russell hopes to leave the same kind of legacy behind that Mark Hoverson has left. So listen here to find out why it's important to lift others up and create an army of heroes. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/become-a-hero-maker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you master this, your army will be amazing.

On today's episode Russell talks about a friend of his that passed away over the weekend and the legacy that he leaves behind. Here are some of the inspiring things in this episode:

  • How the death of a friend inspired Russell to think about his own legacy.
  • What it means to become a hero maker.
  • Why Russell hopes to leave the same kind of legacy behind that Mark Hoverson has left.

So listen here to find out why it's important to lift others up and create an army of heroes.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/become-a-hero-maker

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]]> 546 no Cut Yourself Some Slack... So You Can Actually Launch Your Funnel https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/cut-yourself-some-slack-so-you-can-actually-launch-your-funnel One of the biggest things you need to understand if you're actually going to have success. On today's episode Russell explains why you shouldn't stress about not being a millionaire after only working at it for a few months. Here are some of the other insightful things you will hear in this episode: Why some people have success faster, but why that doesn't mean you're doing something wrong. Why you should cut yourself some slack when you haven't become a millionaire in a short period of time. And why Russell remembers the journey of when things were hard as "Good old days." So listen here to find out why enjoying the journey of entrepreneurship is the best part. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/cut-yourself-some-slack-so-you-can-actually-launch-your-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 21 Aug 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Cut Yourself Some Slack... So You Can Actually Launch Your Funnel full 132 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of the biggest things you need to understand if you’re actually going to have success. One of the biggest things you need to understand if you're actually going to have success. On today's episode Russell explains why you shouldn't stress about not being a millionaire after only working at it for a few months. Here are some of the other insightful things you will hear in this episode: Why some people have success faster, but why that doesn't mean you're doing something wrong. Why you should cut yourself some slack when you haven't become a millionaire in a short period of time. And why Russell remembers the journey of when things were hard as "Good old days." So listen here to find out why enjoying the journey of entrepreneurship is the best part. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/cut-yourself-some-slack-so-you-can-actually-launch-your-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of the biggest things you need to understand if you're actually going to have success.

On today's episode Russell explains why you shouldn't stress about not being a millionaire after only working at it for a few months. Here are some of the other insightful things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why some people have success faster, but why that doesn't mean you're doing something wrong.
  • Why you should cut yourself some slack when you haven't become a millionaire in a short period of time.
  • And why Russell remembers the journey of when things were hard as "Good old days."

So listen here to find out why enjoying the journey of entrepreneurship is the best part.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/cut-yourself-some-slack-so-you-can-actually-launch-your-funnel

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]]> 841 no The #1 Reason Why People Aren’t Buying Your Stuff Is… https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-1-reason-why-people-arent-buying-your-stuff-is This may seem kind of backwards, but if you're struggling, you may have one of these problems. On today's episode Russell talks about what the number one reason is why people aren't buying your products, and how you can change it. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: How Russell knows from experience why not paying for other people's products makes it hard for you to be successful with your own products. Hear some examples of Russell and others who have struggled because they weren't willing to spend the money that they expected other people to spend on them. And why until you start paying for the things you were getting for free, the universe or karma won't allow you to have the success you're hoping for. So listen here if you want to find out why you need to be willing to spend money to make money. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-reason-why-people-aren-t-buying-your-stuff-is Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The #1 Reason Why People Aren’t Buying Your Stuff Is… full 131 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This may seem kind of backwards, but if you’re struggling, you may have one of these problems. This may seem kind of backwards, but if you're struggling, you may have one of these problems. On today's episode Russell talks about what the number one reason is why people aren't buying your products, and how you can change it. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: How Russell knows from experience why not paying for other people's products makes it hard for you to be successful with your own products. Hear some examples of Russell and others who have struggled because they weren't willing to spend the money that they expected other people to spend on them. And why until you start paying for the things you were getting for free, the universe or karma won't allow you to have the success you're hoping for. So listen here if you want to find out why you need to be willing to spend money to make money. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-reason-why-people-aren-t-buying-your-stuff-is Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This may seem kind of backwards, but if you're struggling, you may have one of these problems.

On today's episode Russell talks about what the number one reason is why people aren't buying your products, and how you can change it. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • How Russell knows from experience why not paying for other people's products makes it hard for you to be successful with your own products.
  • Hear some examples of Russell and others who have struggled because they weren't willing to spend the money that they expected other people to spend on them.
  • And why until you start paying for the things you were getting for free, the universe or karma won't allow you to have the success you're hoping for.

So listen here if you want to find out why you need to be willing to spend money to make money.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-reason-why-people-aren-t-buying-your-stuff-is

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]]> 607 no Change Your Environment, Change Your Life https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/change-your-environment-change-your-life A super short podcast episode that will literally change your life forever. On today’s episode Russell talks about a book that inspired him to change his environment. Here are some of the things he has changed to help him achieve what he wants. How Russell plans to get family scripture reading done, and what he changed to do it. What he changed to get his personal scripture studying done. And how he plans to change the environment at work to make it more conducive to the things he wants to achieve. So listen here to find out how changing your environment could change your life. ---Transcript--- Good Morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson, I’ve got a rushed, but very important Marketing Secrets podcast. Hey everyone, I’m running a little bit behind today, But I wanted to share something in my 3 minute drive to the office because I thought it was very, very important. Recently I read a book by my friend, Ben Hardy, called Willpower Doesn’t Work and it was a fascinating book and you should all read it. In fact, you should stop everything you’re doing right now and go read it. But anyway, one of the core things was no matter how much willpower you try to have, it doesn’t actually affect the end result. He was talking about how he went into his Masters Degree originally to learn and study willpower, and he realized after studying it, willpower doesn’t actually cause the change we want. And he said that the only thing that actually causes the change we want, is changing our environment. There, I summed up the book for you. There’s other amazing stuff in it, so you should go back and read it anyway. But that was kind of it, you’ve got to change your environment. So I’ve been thinking about that a lot, as we were in Kenya and flying home, and the last couple of days getting prepped for this week. And I thought, you know what, there’s some major things I want to do with my life, therefore I must radically shift my environment. So last night, let me tell what I did. Number one, one of the things I’ve been trying to do is read scriptures with my kids every day, and it’s really, really hard. So my wife and I went out and we bought seven brand new Books of Mormon, we got labels with the kids name on each and every one of them, and around our big table in the middle of our front room, we put them out there, along with our reading charts, and now it’s front and center. So it’s like as soon as you get done eating, the first thing you see is all of those, and we’re going to go directly there and read. We changed our environment. Number two, I wanted to read my own scriptures better, so I noticed why do I not read them very well? And it’s like, I don’t have a spot to read, and I like having ten books laid out, and like cross referencing and highlighting and all sorts of stuff, and I didn’t have a place to do that, so I changed my environment, my office, I re-shifted the whole set up, cleared off the desk and made the desk my dedicated study spot, I got all the books out that I wanted to be able to study as I’m reading through the Book of Mormon and had them all out there. Had my highlighters, my pencils, my things to underline, everything in one spot, and this morning I woke up at 5am and I actually studied and it was insanely cool. And I loved it, it was awesome. Then you may notice that I struggle with my weight from time to time. I go up, I go down, I go up, I go down. I’m usually on a 10-15 pound fluctuation from week to week, so you never know which Russell you’re going to get. Every Facebook Live is different. And I was like I need to control this. I need to change my environment. So I went through my house and threw out all the good stuff that I like to eat that’s not good for me, I then hired a trainer and he was at my house this morning at 6am, actually he was there at 5am working out Dave, because Dave is doing the same process. And at 6am I was there working out with him and it was amazing. So at the office today I’m going and shifting my environment around, I’m going to be raising my standing desk, so it’s always standing, I’m going to be bringing in my treadmill desk. I’m shifting my environment everywhere to try to get the thing that I actually want in life, not the thing, the things. So for you, what I recommend doing, number one, go read Ben’s book. Number two, start looking, because willpower is not going to get you there, as we now know. It’s the environment. Start looking around yourself and the environment that you’re in and see if it’s conducive to give you the goal you actually want. If not, then shift your environment radically. That’s what I’m doing right now, it’s a ton of fun. And I’m going to keep doing that for the next week or so until everything is flawless. It never gets flawless, but that’s kind of the goal and the game plan. So alright, there you go. 3:17, I am not late for a meeting, so I gotta bounce. Appreciate you guys all, change your environment, change your life and I’ll talk to you soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 07 Aug 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Change Your Environment, Change Your Life full Russell Brunson | YAP Media A super short podcast episode that will literally change your life forever. A super short podcast episode that will literally change your life forever. On today’s episode Russell talks about a book that inspired him to change his environment. Here are some of the things he has changed to help him achieve what he wants. How Russell plans to get family scripture reading done, and what he changed to do it. What he changed to get his personal scripture studying done. And how he plans to change the environment at work to make it more conducive to the things he wants to achieve. So listen here to find out how changing your environment could change your life. ---Transcript--- Good Morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson, I’ve got a rushed, but very important Marketing Secrets podcast. Hey everyone, I’m running a little bit behind today, But I wanted to share something in my 3 minute drive to the office because I thought it was very, very important. Recently I read a book by my friend, Ben Hardy, called Willpower Doesn’t Work and it was a fascinating book and you should all read it. In fact, you should stop everything you’re doing right now and go read it. But anyway, one of the core things was no matter how much willpower you try to have, it doesn’t actually affect the end result. He was talking about how he went into his Masters Degree originally to learn and study willpower, and he realized after studying it, willpower doesn’t actually cause the change we want. And he said that the only thing that actually causes the change we want, is changing our environment. There, I summed up the book for you. There’s other amazing stuff in it, so you should go back and read it anyway. But that was kind of it, you’ve got to change your environment. So I’ve been thinking about that a lot, as we were in Kenya and flying home, and the last couple of days getting prepped for this week. And I thought, you know what, there’s some major things I want to do with my life, therefore I must radically shift my environment. So last night, let me tell what I did. Number one, one of the things I’ve been trying to do is read scriptures with my kids every day, and it’s really, really hard. So my wife and I went out and we bought seven brand new Books of Mormon, we got labels with the kids name on each and every one of them, and around our big table in the middle of our front room, we put them out there, along with our reading charts, and now it’s front and center. So it’s like as soon as you get done eating, the first thing you see is all of those, and we’re going to go directly there and read. We changed our environment. Number two, I wanted to read my own scriptures better, so I noticed why do I not read them very well? And it’s like, I don’t have a spot to read, and I like having ten books laid out, and like cross referencing and highlighting and all sorts of stuff, and I didn’t have a place to do that, so I changed my environment, my office, I re-shifted the whole set up, cleared off the desk and made the desk my dedicated study spot, I got all the books out that I wanted to be able to study as I’m reading through the Book of Mormon and had them all out there. Had my highlighters, my pencils, my things to underline, everything in one spot, and this morning I woke up at 5am and I actually studied and it was insanely cool. And I loved it, it was awesome. Then you may notice that I struggle with my weight from time to time. I go up, I go down, I go up, I go down. I’m usually on a 10-15 pound fluctuation from week to week, so you never know which Russell you’re going to get. Every Facebook Live is different. And I was like I need to control this. I need to change my environment. So I went through my house and threw out all the good stuff that I like to eat that’s not good for me, I then hired a trainer and he was at my house this morning at 6am, actually he was there at 5am working out Dave, because Dave is doing the same process. And at 6am I was there working out with him and it was amazing. So at the office today I’m going and shifting my environment around, I’m going to be raising my standing desk, so it’s always standing, I’m going to be bringing in my treadmill desk. I’m shifting my environment everywhere to try to get the thing that I actually want in life, not the thing, the things. So for you, what I recommend doing, number one, go read Ben’s book. Number two, start looking, because willpower is not going to get you there, as we now know. It’s the environment. Start looking around yourself and the environment that you’re in and see if it’s conducive to give you the goal you actually want. If not, then shift your environment radically. That’s what I’m doing right now, it’s a ton of fun. And I’m going to keep doing that for the next week or so until everything is flawless. It never gets flawless, but that’s kind of the goal and the game plan. So alright, there you go. 3:17, I am not late for a meeting, so I gotta bounce. Appreciate you guys all, change your environment, change your life and I’ll talk to you soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A super short podcast episode that will literally change your life forever.

On today’s episode Russell talks about a book that inspired him to change his environment. Here are some of the things he has changed to help him achieve what he wants.

  • How Russell plans to get family scripture reading done, and what he changed to do it.
  • What he changed to get his personal scripture studying done.
  • And how he plans to change the environment at work to make it more conducive to the things he wants to achieve.

So listen here to find out how changing your environment could change your life.

---Transcript---

Good Morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson, I’ve got a rushed, but very important Marketing Secrets podcast.

Hey everyone, I’m running a little bit behind today, But I wanted to share something in my 3 minute drive to the office because I thought it was very, very important. Recently I read a book by my friend, Ben Hardy, called Willpower Doesn’t Work and it was a fascinating book and you should all read it. In fact, you should stop everything you’re doing right now and go read it.

But anyway, one of the core things was no matter how much willpower you try to have, it doesn’t actually affect the end result. He was talking about how he went into his Masters Degree originally to learn and study willpower, and he realized after studying it, willpower doesn’t actually cause the change we want. And he said that the only thing that actually causes the change we want, is changing our environment. There, I summed up the book for you. There’s other amazing stuff in it, so you should go back and read it anyway.

But that was kind of it, you’ve got to change your environment. So I’ve been thinking about that a lot, as we were in Kenya and flying home, and the last couple of days getting prepped for this week. And I thought, you know what, there’s some major things I want to do with my life, therefore I must radically shift my environment.

So last night, let me tell what I did. Number one, one of the things I’ve been trying to do is read scriptures with my kids every day, and it’s really, really hard. So my wife and I went out and we bought seven brand new Books of Mormon, we got labels with the kids name on each and every one of them, and around our big table in the middle of our front room, we put them out there, along with our reading charts, and now it’s front and center. So it’s like as soon as you get done eating, the first thing you see is all of those, and we’re going to go directly there and read. We changed our environment.

Number two, I wanted to read my own scriptures better, so I noticed why do I not read them very well? And it’s like, I don’t have a spot to read, and I like having ten books laid out, and like cross referencing and highlighting and all sorts of stuff, and I didn’t have a place to do that, so I changed my environment, my office, I re-shifted the whole set up, cleared off the desk and made the desk my dedicated study spot, I got all the books out that I wanted to be able to study as I’m reading through the Book of Mormon and had them all out there. Had my highlighters, my pencils, my things to underline, everything in one spot, and this morning I woke up at 5am and I actually studied and it was insanely cool. And I loved it, it was awesome.

Then you may notice that I struggle with my weight from time to time. I go up, I go down, I go up, I go down. I’m usually on a 10-15 pound fluctuation from week to week, so you never know which Russell you’re going to get. Every Facebook Live is different. And I was like I need to control this. I need to change my environment. So I went through my house and threw out all the good stuff that I like to eat that’s not good for me, I then hired a trainer and he was at my house this morning at 6am, actually he was there at 5am working out Dave, because Dave is doing the same process. And at 6am I was there working out with him and it was amazing.

So at the office today I’m going and shifting my environment around, I’m going to be raising my standing desk, so it’s always standing, I’m going to be bringing in my treadmill desk. I’m shifting my environment everywhere to try to get the thing that I actually want in life, not the thing, the things.

So for you, what I recommend doing, number one, go read Ben’s book. Number two, start looking, because willpower is not going to get you there, as we now know. It’s the environment. Start looking around yourself and the environment that you’re in and see if it’s conducive to give you the goal you actually want. If not, then shift your environment radically. That’s what I’m doing right now, it’s a ton of fun. And I’m going to keep doing that for the next week or so until everything is flawless. It never gets flawless, but that’s kind of the goal and the game plan.

So alright, there you go. 3:17, I am not late for a meeting, so I gotta bounce. Appreciate you guys all, change your environment, change your life and I’ll talk to you soon. Bye everybody.

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]]> 292 no An Entrepreneur Got A Shoe Deal https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/an-entrepreneur-got-a-shoe-deal Why this should be exciting for you as an entrepreneur inside of this game. On today's episode, Russell talks about Gary Vaynerchuk getting a shoe deal and what that means for all entrepreneurs. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: How Gary Vaynerchuk getting a shoe deal could mean good things for all other entrepreneurs. Why Russell believes entrepreneurs should be role models for kids. And how supporting Gary by getting his shoes, is actually doing something for all entrepreneurs. So listen below to find out why in the world Gary Vaynerchuk got a shoe deal, and more importantly why we should support it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/an-entrepreneur-got-a-shoe-deal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 06 Aug 2018 08:00:00 -0000 An Entrepreneur Got A Shoe Deal full 129 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Why this should be exciting for you as an entrepreneur inside of this game. Why this should be exciting for you as an entrepreneur inside of this game. On today's episode, Russell talks about Gary Vaynerchuk getting a shoe deal and what that means for all entrepreneurs. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: How Gary Vaynerchuk getting a shoe deal could mean good things for all other entrepreneurs. Why Russell believes entrepreneurs should be role models for kids. And how supporting Gary by getting his shoes, is actually doing something for all entrepreneurs. So listen below to find out why in the world Gary Vaynerchuk got a shoe deal, and more importantly why we should support it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/an-entrepreneur-got-a-shoe-deal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Why this should be exciting for you as an entrepreneur inside of this game.

On today's episode, Russell talks about Gary Vaynerchuk getting a shoe deal and what that means for all entrepreneurs. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • How Gary Vaynerchuk getting a shoe deal could mean good things for all other entrepreneurs.
  • Why Russell believes entrepreneurs should be role models for kids.
  • And how supporting Gary by getting his shoes, is actually doing something for all entrepreneurs.

So listen below to find out why in the world Gary Vaynerchuk got a shoe deal, and more importantly why we should support it.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/an-entrepreneur-got-a-shoe-deal

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]]> 583 no The Secret To Getting Anybody To Do Anything You Want https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-to-getting-anybody-to-do-anything-you-want The real secret to winning this game is SO simple, most of you are missing it. On this episode Russell talks about receiving a card in the mail asking to be on a podcast, and why that offer wasn't irresistible enough. Here are some of the other things he talks about on today's episode: What was missing from the card asking Russell to be on a podcast, making him throw it away. Why you should always look at what is in it for your customer, or date or whatever, in order to make what you're proposing impossible to refuse. And how you make something you create more valuable than someone's time or money, so they will trade you for it. So listen here to find out why a card sent in the mail wasn't irresistible enough, and how that person could have made it impossible for Russell to turn down. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secret-to-getting-anybody-to-do-anything-you-want Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 03 Aug 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The Secret To Getting Anybody To Do Anything You Want full 128 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The real secret to winning this game is SO simple, most of you are missing it. The real secret to winning this game is SO simple, most of you are missing it. On this episode Russell talks about receiving a card in the mail asking to be on a podcast, and why that offer wasn't irresistible enough. Here are some of the other things he talks about on today's episode: What was missing from the card asking Russell to be on a podcast, making him throw it away. Why you should always look at what is in it for your customer, or date or whatever, in order to make what you're proposing impossible to refuse. And how you make something you create more valuable than someone's time or money, so they will trade you for it. So listen here to find out why a card sent in the mail wasn't irresistible enough, and how that person could have made it impossible for Russell to turn down. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secret-to-getting-anybody-to-do-anything-you-want Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The real secret to winning this game is SO simple, most of you are missing it.

On this episode Russell talks about receiving a card in the mail asking to be on a podcast, and why that offer wasn't irresistible enough. Here are some of the other things he talks about on today's episode:

  • What was missing from the card asking Russell to be on a podcast, making him throw it away.
  • Why you should always look at what is in it for your customer, or date or whatever, in order to make what you're proposing impossible to refuse.
  • And how you make something you create more valuable than someone's time or money, so they will trade you for it.

So listen here to find out why a card sent in the mail wasn't irresistible enough, and how that person could have made it impossible for Russell to turn down.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secret-to-getting-anybody-to-do-anything-you-want

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]]> 665 no The Rebirth Of The Squeeze And The Refocus On The Hook https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-rebirth-of-the-squeeze-and-the-refocus-on-the-hook Despite the fact that others are saying that videos are dead, I want to show you what we're doing now that's actually working better. On today's episode Russell talks about how Chrome stopped allowing auto play videos and how that has lead to the rebirth of the squeeze page. Here are some of the awesome things you will get to hear on this episode: Why it's so important to re-focus on the squeeze page to bring people in, when you can no longer rely on auto play videos. How Russell used a couple of squeeze pages to 2x his listeners of the Marketing Secrets podcast. And where you need to put hooks in order to get people progressing through your sequences. So listen here to find out why Russell believes that the rebirth of the squeeze page has begun. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-rebirth-of-the-squeeze-and-the-refocus-on-the-hook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The Rebirth Of The Squeeze And The Refocus On The Hook full 127 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Despite the fact that others are saying that videos are dead, I want to show you what we’re doing now that’s actually working better. Despite the fact that others are saying that videos are dead, I want to show you what we're doing now that's actually working better. On today's episode Russell talks about how Chrome stopped allowing auto play videos and how that has lead to the rebirth of the squeeze page. Here are some of the awesome things you will get to hear on this episode: Why it's so important to re-focus on the squeeze page to bring people in, when you can no longer rely on auto play videos. How Russell used a couple of squeeze pages to 2x his listeners of the Marketing Secrets podcast. And where you need to put hooks in order to get people progressing through your sequences. So listen here to find out why Russell believes that the rebirth of the squeeze page has begun. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-rebirth-of-the-squeeze-and-the-refocus-on-the-hook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Despite the fact that others are saying that videos are dead, I want to show you what we're doing now that's actually working better.

On today's episode Russell talks about how Chrome stopped allowing auto play videos and how that has lead to the rebirth of the squeeze page. Here are some of the awesome things you will get to hear on this episode:

  • Why it's so important to re-focus on the squeeze page to bring people in, when you can no longer rely on auto play videos.
  • How Russell used a couple of squeeze pages to 2x his listeners of the Marketing Secrets podcast.
  • And where you need to put hooks in order to get people progressing through your sequences.

So listen here to find out why Russell believes that the rebirth of the squeeze page has begun.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-rebirth-of-the-squeeze-and-the-refocus-on-the-hook

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]]> 863 no Liberate And Educate https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/liberate-and-educate How this external mission can actually transform your business forever. On today's episode Russell talks to us all the way from Kenya about the importance of doing good in the world after you have made a lot of money. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: How Russell has been able to help the less fortunate by being successful in business. Why after this trip he will be focusing more on his new mantra, to liberate and educate. And why helping serve people who don't necessarily do anything for you can actually help motivate you to become more successful. So listen here to find out how Russell plans to continue to liberate and educate children and why he's going to start focusing on that aspect even more. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/liberate-and-educate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Liberate And Educate full 126 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How this external mission can actually transform your business forever. How this external mission can actually transform your business forever. On today's episode Russell talks to us all the way from Kenya about the importance of doing good in the world after you have made a lot of money. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: How Russell has been able to help the less fortunate by being successful in business. Why after this trip he will be focusing more on his new mantra, to liberate and educate. And why helping serve people who don't necessarily do anything for you can actually help motivate you to become more successful. So listen here to find out how Russell plans to continue to liberate and educate children and why he's going to start focusing on that aspect even more. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/liberate-and-educate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How this external mission can actually transform your business forever.

On today's episode Russell talks to us all the way from Kenya about the importance of doing good in the world after you have made a lot of money. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • How Russell has been able to help the less fortunate by being successful in business.
  • Why after this trip he will be focusing more on his new mantra, to liberate and educate.
  • And why helping serve people who don't necessarily do anything for you can actually help motivate you to become more successful.

So listen here to find out how Russell plans to continue to liberate and educate children and why he's going to start focusing on that aspect even more.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/liberate-and-educate

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]]> 1171 no Funnels And Your Legacy https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnels-and-your-legacy How each funnel you create can leave a legacy that will live beyond yourself... On this episode Russell does a Facebook live where he talks about the recent launch of the OUR funnel. He gives an update on how it's doing so far and then talks about the seasons of success, and what you might experience. here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Why after you make money and have an impact, leaving a legacy should be your next goal. How having a legacy can help with depression. And find out how the ripple effect can mean that you helped save more children's lives by sharing OUR's message. So listen here to find out how you can help save children's lives, and how you too can leave a legacy that will live beyond you. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnels-and-your-legacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Jul 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Funnels And Your Legacy full 125 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How each funnel you create can leave a legacy that will live beyond yourself… How each funnel you create can leave a legacy that will live beyond yourself... On this episode Russell does a Facebook live where he talks about the recent launch of the OUR funnel. He gives an update on how it's doing so far and then talks about the seasons of success, and what you might experience. here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Why after you make money and have an impact, leaving a legacy should be your next goal. How having a legacy can help with depression. And find out how the ripple effect can mean that you helped save more children's lives by sharing OUR's message. So listen here to find out how you can help save children's lives, and how you too can leave a legacy that will live beyond you. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnels-and-your-legacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How each funnel you create can leave a legacy that will live beyond yourself...

On this episode Russell does a Facebook live where he talks about the recent launch of the OUR funnel. He gives an update on how it's doing so far and then talks about the seasons of success, and what you might experience. here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why after you make money and have an impact, leaving a legacy should be your next goal.
  • How having a legacy can help with depression.
  • And find out how the ripple effect can mean that you helped save more children's lives by sharing OUR's message.

So listen here to find out how you can help save children's lives, and how you too can leave a legacy that will live beyond you.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnels-and-your-legacy

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]]> 1387 no Launched: Project Mother Funnel! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/launched-project-mother-funnel It's finally live! Here is a behind the scenes look of some cool things we did and why we did them. On today's episode Russell talks about two big projects that are finally both going to be live, the OUR documentary and Project Mother Funnel. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: How you can share the Operation Underground Railroad documentary and help save children's lives by doing so. What differences Project Mother Funnel has made inside Clickfunnels and how that is helping with conversion and churn rates. And what changes are still to come as Russell's team continues to make tweaks and polish up Project Mother Funnel. So listen here to find out how you can help change the lives of children who are in desperate need, and find out how project mother funnel could change the way people use Clickfunnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/launched-project-mother-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 11 Jul 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Launched: Project Mother Funnel! full 124 Russell Brunson | YAP Media It’s finally live! Here is a behind the scenes look of some cool things we did and why we did them. It's finally live! Here is a behind the scenes look of some cool things we did and why we did them. On today's episode Russell talks about two big projects that are finally both going to be live, the OUR documentary and Project Mother Funnel. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: How you can share the Operation Underground Railroad documentary and help save children's lives by doing so. What differences Project Mother Funnel has made inside Clickfunnels and how that is helping with conversion and churn rates. And what changes are still to come as Russell's team continues to make tweaks and polish up Project Mother Funnel. So listen here to find out how you can help change the lives of children who are in desperate need, and find out how project mother funnel could change the way people use Clickfunnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/launched-project-mother-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices It's finally live! Here is a behind the scenes look of some cool things we did and why we did them.

On today's episode Russell talks about two big projects that are finally both going to be live, the OUR documentary and Project Mother Funnel. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • How you can share the Operation Underground Railroad documentary and help save children's lives by doing so.
  • What differences Project Mother Funnel has made inside Clickfunnels and how that is helping with conversion and churn rates.
  • And what changes are still to come as Russell's team continues to make tweaks and polish up Project Mother Funnel.

So listen here to find out how you can help change the lives of children who are in desperate need, and find out how project mother funnel could change the way people use Clickfunnels.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/launched-project-mother-funnel

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]]> 820 no Keeping Yourself Out Of Jail And Out Of Hell https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/keeping-yourself-out-of-jail-and-out-of-hell How to set your moral and your legal boundaries and then break the rules in the middle. On today's episode Russell talks about being a rule breaker while still being able to keep himself out of jail and out of hell. Here are some of the fun things he shares in today's episode: Why Russell considers himself to be a rule breaker even though he follows a strict moral compass, as well as a legal one. How some entrepreneurs can go too far with rule breaking if they don't have a moral compass to begin with. And how Russell can justify the rules he does break without going against his own morals as well as the confines of the legal system. So listen here to find out what kind of rules Russell believes are meant to be broken, and what kind aren't. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/keeping-yourself-out-of-jail-and-out-of-hell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 03 Jul 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Keeping Yourself Out Of Jail And Out Of Hell full 123 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to set your moral and your legal boundaries and then break the rules in the middle. How to set your moral and your legal boundaries and then break the rules in the middle. On today's episode Russell talks about being a rule breaker while still being able to keep himself out of jail and out of hell. Here are some of the fun things he shares in today's episode: Why Russell considers himself to be a rule breaker even though he follows a strict moral compass, as well as a legal one. How some entrepreneurs can go too far with rule breaking if they don't have a moral compass to begin with. And how Russell can justify the rules he does break without going against his own morals as well as the confines of the legal system. So listen here to find out what kind of rules Russell believes are meant to be broken, and what kind aren't. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/keeping-yourself-out-of-jail-and-out-of-hell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to set your moral and your legal boundaries and then break the rules in the middle.

On today's episode Russell talks about being a rule breaker while still being able to keep himself out of jail and out of hell. Here are some of the fun things he shares in today's episode:

  • Why Russell considers himself to be a rule breaker even though he follows a strict moral compass, as well as a legal one.
  • How some entrepreneurs can go too far with rule breaking if they don't have a moral compass to begin with.
  • And how Russell can justify the rules he does break without going against his own morals as well as the confines of the legal system.

So listen here to find out what kind of rules Russell believes are meant to be broken, and what kind aren't.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/keeping-yourself-out-of-jail-and-out-of-hell

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]]> 881 no Q&A: Do God And Business Go Together? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/qa-do-god-and-business-go-together I did some rare Q&A for a group talking about business and how it relates to God that I thought was unique and I wanted to share with you. On today's episode Russell talks to the Duck Dynasty audience about faith and business. Here are some of the questions he answers in this Q&A: How Russell prioritizes his with with his faith? Did he ever lose faith when business wasn't performing well? And does he feel he faces more temptation with higher levels of success? So find out the answers to these and many more questions on this special faith based episode of Marketing Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/q-a-do-god-and-business-go-together Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Q&A: Do God And Business Go Together? full 122 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I did some rare Q&A for a group talking about business and how it relates to God that I thought was unique and I wanted to share with you. I did some rare Q&A for a group talking about business and how it relates to God that I thought was unique and I wanted to share with you. On today's episode Russell talks to the Duck Dynasty audience about faith and business. Here are some of the questions he answers in this Q&A: How Russell prioritizes his with with his faith? Did he ever lose faith when business wasn't performing well? And does he feel he faces more temptation with higher levels of success? So find out the answers to these and many more questions on this special faith based episode of Marketing Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/q-a-do-god-and-business-go-together Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I did some rare Q&A for a group talking about business and how it relates to God that I thought was unique and I wanted to share with you.

On today's episode Russell talks to the Duck Dynasty audience about faith and business. Here are some of the questions he answers in this Q&A:

  • How Russell prioritizes his with with his faith?
  • Did he ever lose faith when business wasn't performing well?
  • And does he feel he faces more temptation with higher levels of success?

So find out the answers to these and many more questions on this special faith based episode of Marketing Secrets.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/q-a-do-god-and-business-go-together

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]]> 1234 no 10X Your Income When You Become A Specialist https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/10x-your-income-when-you-become-a-specialist The interesting truth behind what happens when you shift from being a generalist to a specialist. On this episode Russell talks about how he struggled to grow his business until he was able to specialize on a particular piece of it. He also gives examples of other people he knows who have been able to do the same thing. Here are some of the other awesome things to look forward to in this episode: Find out why being a "jack of all trades" isn't good for growing your business. Why being the funnel guy has helped Russell become even more successful. Find out how you can become a specialist in a tiny piece of your market and why that will 10x your business. So listen here to see why it's good to be a specialist. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/10x-your-income-when-you-become-a-specialist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 10X Your Income When You Become A Specialist full 121 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The interesting truth behind what happens when you shift from being a generalist to a specialist. The interesting truth behind what happens when you shift from being a generalist to a specialist. On this episode Russell talks about how he struggled to grow his business until he was able to specialize on a particular piece of it. He also gives examples of other people he knows who have been able to do the same thing. Here are some of the other awesome things to look forward to in this episode: Find out why being a "jack of all trades" isn't good for growing your business. Why being the funnel guy has helped Russell become even more successful. Find out how you can become a specialist in a tiny piece of your market and why that will 10x your business. So listen here to see why it's good to be a specialist. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/10x-your-income-when-you-become-a-specialist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The interesting truth behind what happens when you shift from being a generalist to a specialist.

On this episode Russell talks about how he struggled to grow his business until he was able to specialize on a particular piece of it. He also gives examples of other people he knows who have been able to do the same thing. Here are some of the other awesome things to look forward to in this episode:

  • Find out why being a "jack of all trades" isn't good for growing your business.
  • Why being the funnel guy has helped Russell become even more successful.
  • Find out how you can become a specialist in a tiny piece of your market and why that will 10x your business.

So listen here to see why it's good to be a specialist.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/10x-your-income-when-you-become-a-specialist

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]]> 875 no I Just Spoke At Tony Robbins Event!! (The UNUSUAL Insight I Wasn’t Expecting...) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/i-just-spoke-at-tony-robbins-event-the-unusual-insight-i-wasnt-expecting Anne Frank house... Operation Underground Railroad... and what YOU can do NOW to help save children from slavery. This IS our problem, we can help. On today's episode Russell talks about going to a Tony Robbins event in Amsterdam and being able to speak there. He also speaks about the emotional reaction he had while visiting the Anne Frank house and how it relates to another project he is currently involved in. Here are some of the insightful things you will hear in this episode: What Russell's real motivation was when he said he would speak at Tony Robbins Business Mastery event. Why visiting the Anne Frank house had such an emotional impact on Russell. And how you can save someone in similar circumstances to Anne Frank in the present day. So listen here to find out how sharing the message of Operation Underground Railroad, you can help save a life. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-just-spoke-at-tony-robbins-event-the-unusual-insight-i-wasn-t-expecting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 26 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 I Just Spoke At Tony Robbins Event!! (The UNUSUAL Insight I Wasn’t Expecting...) full 120 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Anne Frank house… Operation Underground Railroad… and what YOU can do NOW to help save children from slavery. This IS our problem, we can help. Anne Frank house... Operation Underground Railroad... and what YOU can do NOW to help save children from slavery. This IS our problem, we can help. On today's episode Russell talks about going to a Tony Robbins event in Amsterdam and being able to speak there. He also speaks about the emotional reaction he had while visiting the Anne Frank house and how it relates to another project he is currently involved in. Here are some of the insightful things you will hear in this episode: What Russell's real motivation was when he said he would speak at Tony Robbins Business Mastery event. Why visiting the Anne Frank house had such an emotional impact on Russell. And how you can save someone in similar circumstances to Anne Frank in the present day. So listen here to find out how sharing the message of Operation Underground Railroad, you can help save a life. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-just-spoke-at-tony-robbins-event-the-unusual-insight-i-wasn-t-expecting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Anne Frank house... Operation Underground Railroad... and what YOU can do NOW to help save children from slavery. This IS our problem, we can help.

On today's episode Russell talks about going to a Tony Robbins event in Amsterdam and being able to speak there. He also speaks about the emotional reaction he had while visiting the Anne Frank house and how it relates to another project he is currently involved in. Here are some of the insightful things you will hear in this episode:

  • What Russell's real motivation was when he said he would speak at Tony Robbins Business Mastery event.
  • Why visiting the Anne Frank house had such an emotional impact on Russell.
  • And how you can save someone in similar circumstances to Anne Frank in the present day.

So listen here to find out how sharing the message of Operation Underground Railroad, you can help save a life.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-just-spoke-at-tony-robbins-event-the-unusual-insight-i-wasn-t-expecting

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]]> 1042 no The #1 Destructive Behavior That You Have That's Killing Your Success https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-1-destructive-behavior-that-you-have-thats-killing-your-success If there is anything virtuous, lovely, of good report, or praiseworthy, we seek after these things. On today's episode Russell talks about the teachability index, and why most adults no longer have it after completing school. Here are some of the other awesome things in this episode: Why adults are so unteachable as compared to children. How Russell was able to open his mind and become teachable at a Tony Robbins event. And why having a high teachability index will improve our chances for success in business. So listen here to find out how Russell regained his teachability and has been so successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-destructive-behavior-that-you-have-that-s-killing-your-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The #1 Destructive Behavior That You Have That's Killing Your Success full 119 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If there is anything virtuous, lovely, of good report, or praiseworthy, we seek after these things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, of good report, or praiseworthy, we seek after these things. On today's episode Russell talks about the teachability index, and why most adults no longer have it after completing school. Here are some of the other awesome things in this episode: Why adults are so unteachable as compared to children. How Russell was able to open his mind and become teachable at a Tony Robbins event. And why having a high teachability index will improve our chances for success in business. So listen here to find out how Russell regained his teachability and has been so successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-destructive-behavior-that-you-have-that-s-killing-your-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If there is anything virtuous, lovely, of good report, or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

On today's episode Russell talks about the teachability index, and why most adults no longer have it after completing school. Here are some of the other awesome things in this episode:

  • Why adults are so unteachable as compared to children.
  • How Russell was able to open his mind and become teachable at a Tony Robbins event.
  • And why having a high teachability index will improve our chances for success in business.

So listen here to find out how Russell regained his teachability and has been so successful.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-destructive-behavior-that-you-have-that-s-killing-your-success

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]]> 744 no The "Offer" That Helped End World War 1 (Hint: It Included Toilet Paper) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-offer-that-helped-end-world-war-1-hint-it-included-toilet-paper Creating an offer is the secret behind getting anything you want... including prisoners of war. On today's episode, Russell talks about how Harry Reichenbach helped end World War I with an offer that German soldiers couldn't refuse. Here are some of the awesome and surprising things to look for in this episode: What was in Reichenbach's offer that gave him the ability to convince German soldiers that it would be better to be prisoners of war than to continue fighting. How everything in life is pretty much about selling someone an irresistible offer. And how Russell could easily convince you to purchase an iPhone from him for double the cost of every other iPhone being sold. So listen here to find out how hook, story and offer can convince someone to marry you, go to the movies with you, or even end a war. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-offer-that-helped-end-world-war-1-hint-it-included-toilet-paper Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The "Offer" That Helped End World War 1 (Hint: It Included Toilet Paper) full 118 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Creating an offer is the secret behind getting anything you want… including prisoners of war. Creating an offer is the secret behind getting anything you want... including prisoners of war. On today's episode, Russell talks about how Harry Reichenbach helped end World War I with an offer that German soldiers couldn't refuse. Here are some of the awesome and surprising things to look for in this episode: What was in Reichenbach's offer that gave him the ability to convince German soldiers that it would be better to be prisoners of war than to continue fighting. How everything in life is pretty much about selling someone an irresistible offer. And how Russell could easily convince you to purchase an iPhone from him for double the cost of every other iPhone being sold. So listen here to find out how hook, story and offer can convince someone to marry you, go to the movies with you, or even end a war. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-offer-that-helped-end-world-war-1-hint-it-included-toilet-paper Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Creating an offer is the secret behind getting anything you want... including prisoners of war.

On today's episode, Russell talks about how Harry Reichenbach helped end World War I with an offer that German soldiers couldn't refuse. Here are some of the awesome and surprising things to look for in this episode:

  • What was in Reichenbach's offer that gave him the ability to convince German soldiers that it would be better to be prisoners of war than to continue fighting.
  • How everything in life is pretty much about selling someone an irresistible offer.
  • And how Russell could easily convince you to purchase an iPhone from him for double the cost of every other iPhone being sold.

So listen here to find out how hook, story and offer can convince someone to marry you, go to the movies with you, or even end a war.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-offer-that-helped-end-world-war-1-hint-it-included-toilet-paper

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]]> 846 no The Secret Behind The Three Phases Of The Attractive Character... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-behind-the-three-phases-of-the-attractive-character Hint: It starts with you, but if it ends with you, you'll never have the impact that you actually want. On today's episode Russell talks about a webinar in which Kaelin Poulin will sell Clickfunnels rather than Russell. He then goes into detail of how the attractive character of Clickfunnels is evolving. Here are some of the interesting things happening in today's episode: Find out why some critics of Russell were correct when they said you can't sell a business based on an attractive character. Hear how Russell is getting passed the attractive character issue by helping it to evolve 3 levels deep. And find out why Kaelin Poulin is the perfect person to pitch Clickfunnels, besides Russell. So listen below to find out how Clickfunnels is evolving it's attractive character. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secret-behind-the-three-phases-of-the-attractive-character Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The Secret Behind The Three Phases Of The Attractive Character... full 117 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Hint: It starts with you, but if it ends with you, you’ll never have the impact that you actually want. Hint: It starts with you, but if it ends with you, you'll never have the impact that you actually want. On today's episode Russell talks about a webinar in which Kaelin Poulin will sell Clickfunnels rather than Russell. He then goes into detail of how the attractive character of Clickfunnels is evolving. Here are some of the interesting things happening in today's episode: Find out why some critics of Russell were correct when they said you can't sell a business based on an attractive character. Hear how Russell is getting passed the attractive character issue by helping it to evolve 3 levels deep. And find out why Kaelin Poulin is the perfect person to pitch Clickfunnels, besides Russell. So listen below to find out how Clickfunnels is evolving it's attractive character. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secret-behind-the-three-phases-of-the-attractive-character Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hint: It starts with you, but if it ends with you, you'll never have the impact that you actually want.

On today's episode Russell talks about a webinar in which Kaelin Poulin will sell Clickfunnels rather than Russell. He then goes into detail of how the attractive character of Clickfunnels is evolving. Here are some of the interesting things happening in today's episode:

  • Find out why some critics of Russell were correct when they said you can't sell a business based on an attractive character.
  • Hear how Russell is getting passed the attractive character issue by helping it to evolve 3 levels deep.
  • And find out why Kaelin Poulin is the perfect person to pitch Clickfunnels, besides Russell.

So listen below to find out how Clickfunnels is evolving it's attractive character.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secret-behind-the-three-phases-of-the-attractive-character

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]]> 768 no The Invisible Marketing Technique That'll Keep You Profitable When Times Are Down https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-invisible-marketing-technique-thatll-keep-you-profitable-when-times-are-down Update on my "Entrepreneur of the Year" award, as well as a side of marketing that we never get a chance to talk about. On this episode Russell talks about serving your customers at the highest level when times are good, so they will continue to be your customers when times are down. Here are some of the other cool things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out if Russell won "Entrepreneur of the Year". Hear why Russell thinks being an entrepreneur is so similar to being a wrestler. And find out why it's so important to serve your customers at a high level when times are good for you. So listen here to see why you should always be serving at the highest level possible, despite if times are good or bad. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-invisible-marketing-technique-that-ll-keep-you-profitable-when-times-are-down Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 08 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 The Invisible Marketing Technique That'll Keep You Profitable When Times Are Down full 116 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Update on my “Entrepreneur of the Year” award, as well as a side of marketing that we never get a chance to talk about. Update on my "Entrepreneur of the Year" award, as well as a side of marketing that we never get a chance to talk about. On this episode Russell talks about serving your customers at the highest level when times are good, so they will continue to be your customers when times are down. Here are some of the other cool things you'll hear in today's episode: Find out if Russell won "Entrepreneur of the Year". Hear why Russell thinks being an entrepreneur is so similar to being a wrestler. And find out why it's so important to serve your customers at a high level when times are good for you. So listen here to see why you should always be serving at the highest level possible, despite if times are good or bad. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-invisible-marketing-technique-that-ll-keep-you-profitable-when-times-are-down Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Update on my "Entrepreneur of the Year" award, as well as a side of marketing that we never get a chance to talk about.

On this episode Russell talks about serving your customers at the highest level when times are good, so they will continue to be your customers when times are down. Here are some of the other cool things you'll hear in today's episode:

  • Find out if Russell won "Entrepreneur of the Year".
  • Hear why Russell thinks being an entrepreneur is so similar to being a wrestler.
  • And find out why it's so important to serve your customers at a high level when times are good for you.

So listen here to see why you should always be serving at the highest level possible, despite if times are good or bad.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-invisible-marketing-technique-that-ll-keep-you-profitable-when-times-are-down

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]]> 628 no My New Favorite "Plata O Plomo" Story https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/my-new-favorite-plata-o-plomo-story If you want to see the impact that 'plata o plomo' had on one of our funnel hackers, listen to this episode. On this episode Russell talks about setting lead or gold, or plata o plomo deadlines in order to be able to achieve your ultimate goals. Here are some of the awesome things you can look forward to hearing on today's episode: Get an update on one of Russell's friends that was previously discussed on the podcast. Find out how Russell's friend was able to give himself a plata o plomo situation in order to find some success. And hear why Russell still sets lead or gold deadlines for himself, and why they could work for you in your business as well. So listen here to find out what plata o plomo means, and why it's so effective in helping people achieve their goals. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-new-favorite-plata-o-plomo-story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 07 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 My New Favorite "Plata O Plomo" Story full 115 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you want to see the impact that ‘plata o plomo’ had on one of our funnel hackers, listen to this episode. If you want to see the impact that 'plata o plomo' had on one of our funnel hackers, listen to this episode. On this episode Russell talks about setting lead or gold, or plata o plomo deadlines in order to be able to achieve your ultimate goals. Here are some of the awesome things you can look forward to hearing on today's episode: Get an update on one of Russell's friends that was previously discussed on the podcast. Find out how Russell's friend was able to give himself a plata o plomo situation in order to find some success. And hear why Russell still sets lead or gold deadlines for himself, and why they could work for you in your business as well. So listen here to find out what plata o plomo means, and why it's so effective in helping people achieve their goals. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-new-favorite-plata-o-plomo-story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you want to see the impact that 'plata o plomo' had on one of our funnel hackers, listen to this episode.

On this episode Russell talks about setting lead or gold, or plata o plomo deadlines in order to be able to achieve your ultimate goals. Here are some of the awesome things you can look forward to hearing on today's episode:

  • Get an update on one of Russell's friends that was previously discussed on the podcast.
  • Find out how Russell's friend was able to give himself a plata o plomo situation in order to find some success.
  • And hear why Russell still sets lead or gold deadlines for himself, and why they could work for you in your business as well.

So listen here to find out what plata o plomo means, and why it's so effective in helping people achieve their goals.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/my-new-favorite-plata-o-plomo-story

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]]> 807 no Who Gets To Vote In The Election About You? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/who-gets-to-vote-in-the-election-about-you Stop worrying about those people who aren't willing to vote with their credit card. On this episode Russell talks about why you shouldn't care what people think when they don't vote with their credit cards. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for on today's episode: Why you shouldn't listen to trolls that comment mean things on your Facebook ads. Who's opinion you should be listening to when it comes to how you sell your product. And what voting with your credit card even means. So listen here to find out why you should only be concerned with your customer's opinions of you. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/who-gets-to-vote-in-the-election-about-you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Who Gets To Vote In The Election About You? full 114 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Stop worrying about those people who aren’t willing to vote with their credit card. Stop worrying about those people who aren't willing to vote with their credit card. On this episode Russell talks about why you shouldn't care what people think when they don't vote with their credit cards. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for on today's episode: Why you shouldn't listen to trolls that comment mean things on your Facebook ads. Who's opinion you should be listening to when it comes to how you sell your product. And what voting with your credit card even means. So listen here to find out why you should only be concerned with your customer's opinions of you. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/who-gets-to-vote-in-the-election-about-you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Stop worrying about those people who aren't willing to vote with their credit card.

On this episode Russell talks about why you shouldn't care what people think when they don't vote with their credit cards. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for on today's episode:

  • Why you shouldn't listen to trolls that comment mean things on your Facebook ads.
  • Who's opinion you should be listening to when it comes to how you sell your product.
  • And what voting with your credit card even means.

So listen here to find out why you should only be concerned with your customer's opinions of you.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/who-gets-to-vote-in-the-election-about-you

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]]> 464 no How One Presentation Can Change Everything https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-one-presentation-can-change-everything The quickest path to launch your entire expert business fast. On today's podcast Russell talks about how easy it would be to get started by making a presentation and changing your life. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out the three easy steps it would take to get started and begin making money overnight. Find out why if Russell were to start from scratch he would use this method. And hear a few examples of front end products, and upsells that would be easy to do. So listen here to find out how easy it could be to get started on a mini business overnight. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-one-presentation-can-change-everything Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 05 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 How One Presentation Can Change Everything full 113 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The quickest path to launch your entire expert business fast. The quickest path to launch your entire expert business fast. On today's podcast Russell talks about how easy it would be to get started by making a presentation and changing your life. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out the three easy steps it would take to get started and begin making money overnight. Find out why if Russell were to start from scratch he would use this method. And hear a few examples of front end products, and upsells that would be easy to do. So listen here to find out how easy it could be to get started on a mini business overnight. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-one-presentation-can-change-everything Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The quickest path to launch your entire expert business fast.

On today's podcast Russell talks about how easy it would be to get started by making a presentation and changing your life. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out the three easy steps it would take to get started and begin making money overnight.
  • Find out why if Russell were to start from scratch he would use this method.
  • And hear a few examples of front end products, and upsells that would be easy to do.

So listen here to find out how easy it could be to get started on a mini business overnight.

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]]> 1094 no DO HARD THINGS!!! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/do-hard-things If you want to be worthy and ready for the mission that God wants to give you, it's time to follow this one simple principle. On today's episode Russell talks about a lesson he learned recently from his former high school football coach that applies to all aspects of life. Here are some of the inspirational things you will hear in this episode: What advice Russell's football coach would leave his children, which is good advice for everyone. Why doing hard things increases our capacity to do even harder things, eventually making us amazing. And why it's important to always be working towards doing more and more hard things so that when our moment in the sun comes, we can really shine. So listen here to find out why it's important to do hard things. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/do-hard-things Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sat, 02 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 DO HARD THINGS!!! full 112 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you want to be worthy and ready for the mission that God wants to give you, it’s time to follow this one simple principle. If you want to be worthy and ready for the mission that God wants to give you, it's time to follow this one simple principle. On today's episode Russell talks about a lesson he learned recently from his former high school football coach that applies to all aspects of life. Here are some of the inspirational things you will hear in this episode: What advice Russell's football coach would leave his children, which is good advice for everyone. Why doing hard things increases our capacity to do even harder things, eventually making us amazing. And why it's important to always be working towards doing more and more hard things so that when our moment in the sun comes, we can really shine. So listen here to find out why it's important to do hard things. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/do-hard-things Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you want to be worthy and ready for the mission that God wants to give you, it's time to follow this one simple principle.

On today's episode Russell talks about a lesson he learned recently from his former high school football coach that applies to all aspects of life. Here are some of the inspirational things you will hear in this episode:

  • What advice Russell's football coach would leave his children, which is good advice for everyone.
  • Why doing hard things increases our capacity to do even harder things, eventually making us amazing.
  • And why it's important to always be working towards doing more and more hard things so that when our moment in the sun comes, we can really shine.

So listen here to find out why it's important to do hard things.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/do-hard-things

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]]> 642 no Moving From A Mass Movement To Your Own Universe https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/moving-from-a-mass-movement-to-your-own-universe What I learned from WWF, Disney, and Marvel about creating your own universe, so you can better serve your customers. On this episode Russell talks about legends in marketing and wrestling that he has surpassed. He also explains why it is important to create a universe inside your company. Here are some super cool things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell has always looked up to both Dan Kennedy and Dan Gable, and why he feels like he has actually surpassed them. What it means to create a universe in your company and how some of Russell's followers have been able to do it. And why you should be thinking about how to create a universe of your own for people to follow and get excited about. So listen here to find out how Russell has surpassed a few legends and how he's been able to build his own universe inside of Clickfunnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/moving-from-a-mass-movement-to-your-own-universe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 01 Jun 2018 08:00:00 -0000 Moving From A Mass Movement To Your Own Universe full 111 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What I learned from WWF, Disney, and Marvel about creating your own universe, so you can better serve your customers. What I learned from WWF, Disney, and Marvel about creating your own universe, so you can better serve your customers. On this episode Russell talks about legends in marketing and wrestling that he has surpassed. He also explains why it is important to create a universe inside your company. Here are some super cool things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell has always looked up to both Dan Kennedy and Dan Gable, and why he feels like he has actually surpassed them. What it means to create a universe in your company and how some of Russell's followers have been able to do it. And why you should be thinking about how to create a universe of your own for people to follow and get excited about. So listen here to find out how Russell has surpassed a few legends and how he's been able to build his own universe inside of Clickfunnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/moving-from-a-mass-movement-to-your-own-universe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What I learned from WWF, Disney, and Marvel about creating your own universe, so you can better serve your customers.

On this episode Russell talks about legends in marketing and wrestling that he has surpassed. He also explains why it is important to create a universe inside your company. Here are some super cool things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why Russell has always looked up to both Dan Kennedy and Dan Gable, and why he feels like he has actually surpassed them.
  • What it means to create a universe in your company and how some of Russell's followers have been able to do it.
  • And why you should be thinking about how to create a universe of your own for people to follow and get excited about.

So listen here to find out how Russell has surpassed a few legends and how he's been able to build his own universe inside of Clickfunnels.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/moving-from-a-mass-movement-to-your-own-universe

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]]> 1233 no I'm Pretty Sure This Is The Fastest Way To Get To A Million Dollars Without Having To Learn How To Do Anything New https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/im-pretty-sure-this-is-the-fastest-way-to-get-to-a-million-dollars-without-having-to-learn-how-to-do-anything-new After sitting in the blistering heat all day, I'm not sure if this is just a hallucination or a really good idea. Either way, I thought I'd share it with you. On this episode Russell talks about what he thinks is the fastest way to get to a million dollars in a company. Here are some of the insightful things to look for in today's episode: Why two people Russell knows were able to make a million dollars in a year with just the two of them, with a simple business. What people you will need on your team to be able to make a lot of money right out of the gate. And why you can't built something amazing by yourself and you need an amazing team to back you up. So listen here to find out how two dudes were able to make a million dollars in a year, and what you can learn from them to do the same thing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-m-pretty-sure-this-is-the-fastest-way-to-get-to-a-million-dollars-without-having-to-learn-how-to-do-anything-new Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 May 2018 22:35:18 -0000 I'm Pretty Sure This Is The Fastest Way To Get To A Million Dollars Without Having To Learn How To Do Anything New full 110 Russell Brunson | YAP Media After sitting in the blistering heat all day, I’m not sure if this is just a hallucination or a really good idea. Either way, I thought I’d share it with you. After sitting in the blistering heat all day, I'm not sure if this is just a hallucination or a really good idea. Either way, I thought I'd share it with you. On this episode Russell talks about what he thinks is the fastest way to get to a million dollars in a company. Here are some of the insightful things to look for in today's episode: Why two people Russell knows were able to make a million dollars in a year with just the two of them, with a simple business. What people you will need on your team to be able to make a lot of money right out of the gate. And why you can't built something amazing by yourself and you need an amazing team to back you up. So listen here to find out how two dudes were able to make a million dollars in a year, and what you can learn from them to do the same thing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-m-pretty-sure-this-is-the-fastest-way-to-get-to-a-million-dollars-without-having-to-learn-how-to-do-anything-new Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices After sitting in the blistering heat all day, I'm not sure if this is just a hallucination or a really good idea. Either way, I thought I'd share it with you.

On this episode Russell talks about what he thinks is the fastest way to get to a million dollars in a company. Here are some of the insightful things to look for in today's episode:

  • Why two people Russell knows were able to make a million dollars in a year with just the two of them, with a simple business.
  • What people you will need on your team to be able to make a lot of money right out of the gate.
  • And why you can't built something amazing by yourself and you need an amazing team to back you up.

So listen here to find out how two dudes were able to make a million dollars in a year, and what you can learn from them to do the same thing.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-m-pretty-sure-this-is-the-fastest-way-to-get-to-a-million-dollars-without-having-to-learn-how-to-do-anything-new

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]]> 940 no Funnel Vision: Looking Into The Future Of Funnels... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-vision-looking-into-the-future-of-funnels Hint: the death of autowebinars, the rebirth of the VSL, a sneaky hack from Agora, an idea from Brad Callen that made him $35 million in 1 funnel, and a design tweak from Bryan Moran that makes 63% of your traffic more likely to buy... :) On this episode Russell talks about some of the changes to Google Chrome causing problems to autoplay videos, and what he sees the future of funnels being like. Here are some awesome things to look forward to in this episode: What kinds of problems the disabling of autoplay in Google Chrome has caused and how they are trying to work around them. Why Russell thinks that the future of funnels means going backwards a little to more a video sales letter format. And why making your site mobile friendly before desktop friendly is more important now than ever. So listen here to find out what Russell's funnel vision of the future would look like. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-vision-looking-into-the-future-of-funnels Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 25 May 2018 23:23:37 -0000 Funnel Vision: Looking Into The Future Of Funnels... full 109 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Hint: the death of autowebinars, the rebirth of the VSL, a sneaky hack from Agora, an idea from Brad Callen that made him $35 million in 1 funnel, and a design tweak from Bryan Moran that makes 63% of your traffic more likely to buy… :) Hint: the death of autowebinars, the rebirth of the VSL, a sneaky hack from Agora, an idea from Brad Callen that made him $35 million in 1 funnel, and a design tweak from Bryan Moran that makes 63% of your traffic more likely to buy... :) On this episode Russell talks about some of the changes to Google Chrome causing problems to autoplay videos, and what he sees the future of funnels being like. Here are some awesome things to look forward to in this episode: What kinds of problems the disabling of autoplay in Google Chrome has caused and how they are trying to work around them. Why Russell thinks that the future of funnels means going backwards a little to more a video sales letter format. And why making your site mobile friendly before desktop friendly is more important now than ever. So listen here to find out what Russell's funnel vision of the future would look like. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-vision-looking-into-the-future-of-funnels Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hint: the death of autowebinars, the rebirth of the VSL, a sneaky hack from Agora, an idea from Brad Callen that made him $35 million in 1 funnel, and a design tweak from Bryan Moran that makes 63% of your traffic more likely to buy... :)

On this episode Russell talks about some of the changes to Google Chrome causing problems to autoplay videos, and what he sees the future of funnels being like. Here are some awesome things to look forward to in this episode:

  • What kinds of problems the disabling of autoplay in Google Chrome has caused and how they are trying to work around them.
  • Why Russell thinks that the future of funnels means going backwards a little to more a video sales letter format.
  • And why making your site mobile friendly before desktop friendly is more important now than ever.

So listen here to find out what Russell's funnel vision of the future would look like.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-vision-looking-into-the-future-of-funnels

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]]> 815 no Want A Bigger Paycheck? Simplify The Process For Your Customers https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/want-a-bigger-paycheck-simplify-the-process-for-your-customers My big ah-ha after spending the last twelve hours working on project Mother Funnel. On today's episode Russell talks about how he's simplifying things to make it simpler for his customers and why that is the key to helping his customers achieve the result he promised them. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: What Mother Funnel is and what it will simplify for Clickfunnels customers. And how simplifying the process of building a funnel and successful business will help more people get to the Two Comma Club. So listen here to find out what Russell is doing to simplify Clickfunnels, and what you can do to make things simpler for your customers as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/want-a-bigger-paycheck-simplify-the-process-for-your-customers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 24 May 2018 23:23:42 -0000 Want A Bigger Paycheck? Simplify The Process For Your Customers full 108 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My big ah-ha after spending the last twelve hours working on project Mother Funnel. My big ah-ha after spending the last twelve hours working on project Mother Funnel. On today's episode Russell talks about how he's simplifying things to make it simpler for his customers and why that is the key to helping his customers achieve the result he promised them. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: What Mother Funnel is and what it will simplify for Clickfunnels customers. And how simplifying the process of building a funnel and successful business will help more people get to the Two Comma Club. So listen here to find out what Russell is doing to simplify Clickfunnels, and what you can do to make things simpler for your customers as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/want-a-bigger-paycheck-simplify-the-process-for-your-customers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My big ah-ha after spending the last twelve hours working on project Mother Funnel.

On today's episode Russell talks about how he's simplifying things to make it simpler for his customers and why that is the key to helping his customers achieve the result he promised them. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • What Mother Funnel is and what it will simplify for Clickfunnels customers.
  • And how simplifying the process of building a funnel and successful business will help more people get to the Two Comma Club.

So listen here to find out what Russell is doing to simplify Clickfunnels, and what you can do to make things simpler for your customers as well.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/want-a-bigger-paycheck-simplify-the-process-for-your-customers

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]]> 774 no If There Is One, There Could Be Two... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/if-there-is-one-there-could-be-two The two polar opposite mindsets that will either make you, or break you. On this episode Russell talks about having belief in your own success in order to actually be successful. Here are some of the awesome things he mentions in this episode: Why you shouldn't have the Michael Moore view of success being a freak accident. Why believing in your own success will increase the likelihood of you achieving what you're trying to do. And why being a skeptic has a zero percent success rate. So listen here to find out why if there is one, there could be two and you could figure out how to be number two. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/if-there-is-one-there-could-be-two Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 22 May 2018 22:29:00 -0000 If There Is One, There Could Be Two... full 107 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The two polar opposite mindsets that will either make you, or break you. The two polar opposite mindsets that will either make you, or break you. On this episode Russell talks about having belief in your own success in order to actually be successful. Here are some of the awesome things he mentions in this episode: Why you shouldn't have the Michael Moore view of success being a freak accident. Why believing in your own success will increase the likelihood of you achieving what you're trying to do. And why being a skeptic has a zero percent success rate. So listen here to find out why if there is one, there could be two and you could figure out how to be number two. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/if-there-is-one-there-could-be-two Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The two polar opposite mindsets that will either make you, or break you.

On this episode Russell talks about having belief in your own success in order to actually be successful. Here are some of the awesome things he mentions in this episode:

  • Why you shouldn't have the Michael Moore view of success being a freak accident.
  • Why believing in your own success will increase the likelihood of you achieving what you're trying to do.
  • And why being a skeptic has a zero percent success rate.

So listen here to find out why if there is one, there could be two and you could figure out how to be number two.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/if-there-is-one-there-could-be-two

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]]> 943 no The History And Math That Will Actually Grow Your Company https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-history-and-math-that-will-actually-grow-your-company Most entrepreneurs don't love history or math, but when they understand this principle, it'll make it really, really fun. On this episode Russell talks about knowing the history and math of your industry to be able to grow your business. Here are some awesome things he discusses in today's episode: Why knowing the history of your industry will make it easier for you to market and grow your business. What it means to know the math of your business and why that helps it magically grow. And Why it's important to remember that you are not entitled to success just because you worked hard. So listen here to find out why if you know the history and math of your industry, you are more likely to have success within it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-history-and-math-that-will-actually-grow-your-company Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 21 May 2018 23:04:55 -0000 The History And Math That Will Actually Grow Your Company full 106 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Most entrepreneurs don’t love history or math, but when they understand this principle, it’ll make it really, really fun. Most entrepreneurs don't love history or math, but when they understand this principle, it'll make it really, really fun. On this episode Russell talks about knowing the history and math of your industry to be able to grow your business. Here are some awesome things he discusses in today's episode: Why knowing the history of your industry will make it easier for you to market and grow your business. What it means to know the math of your business and why that helps it magically grow. And Why it's important to remember that you are not entitled to success just because you worked hard. So listen here to find out why if you know the history and math of your industry, you are more likely to have success within it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-history-and-math-that-will-actually-grow-your-company Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Most entrepreneurs don't love history or math, but when they understand this principle, it'll make it really, really fun.

On this episode Russell talks about knowing the history and math of your industry to be able to grow your business. Here are some awesome things he discusses in today's episode:

  • Why knowing the history of your industry will make it easier for you to market and grow your business.
  • What it means to know the math of your business and why that helps it magically grow.
  • And Why it's important to remember that you are not entitled to success just because you worked hard.

So listen here to find out why if you know the history and math of your industry, you are more likely to have success within it.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-history-and-math-that-will-actually-grow-your-company

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]]> 706 no The BIG Secret... Defend And Advocate https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-big-secret-defend-and-advocate One of my biggest take-aways from this month's inner circle meetings was this... On today's episode Russell talks about hearing Alex Charfen say something in passing at the latest Inner Circle meeting and why it was so important to make him stop and point out what he said to everybody in the meeting. Check out a few of the other things you will here in this episode: Find out what Alex said that Russell had never noticed before, but that he's been doing all along. Hear why it's so important to defend and advocate for your dream clients. And Find out how Russell has used social media platforms to go from 10,000 clicks an email to 250,000 customer interactions per day. So listen here to find out what Alex said that was so important, and how you can use it to connect with your audience on social media and in turn increase your customer interactions each day. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-big-secret-defend-and-advocate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 18 May 2018 19:22:13 -0000 The BIG Secret... Defend And Advocate full 105 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of my biggest take-aways from this month’s inner circle meetings was this… One of my biggest take-aways from this month's inner circle meetings was this... On today's episode Russell talks about hearing Alex Charfen say something in passing at the latest Inner Circle meeting and why it was so important to make him stop and point out what he said to everybody in the meeting. Check out a few of the other things you will here in this episode: Find out what Alex said that Russell had never noticed before, but that he's been doing all along. Hear why it's so important to defend and advocate for your dream clients. And Find out how Russell has used social media platforms to go from 10,000 clicks an email to 250,000 customer interactions per day. So listen here to find out what Alex said that was so important, and how you can use it to connect with your audience on social media and in turn increase your customer interactions each day. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-big-secret-defend-and-advocate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of my biggest take-aways from this month's inner circle meetings was this...

On today's episode Russell talks about hearing Alex Charfen say something in passing at the latest Inner Circle meeting and why it was so important to make him stop and point out what he said to everybody in the meeting. Check out a few of the other things you will here in this episode:

  • Find out what Alex said that Russell had never noticed before, but that he's been doing all along.
  • Hear why it's so important to defend and advocate for your dream clients.
  • And Find out how Russell has used social media platforms to go from 10,000 clicks an email to 250,000 customer interactions per day.

So listen here to find out what Alex said that was so important, and how you can use it to connect with your audience on social media and in turn increase your customer interactions each day.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-big-secret-defend-and-advocate

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]]> 765 no The End Of The Information Age... The Next Phase Is ____ https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-end-of-the-information-age-the-next-phase-is-____ I heard something really cool today while listening to Frank Kern's podcast and I thought I'd share it with you. In this episode Russell talks about listening to Frank Kern's new podcast and why he says that the information age is over. Here are some of the other things you will hear in this episode. Why Frank considers the information age to be over and why Russell thinks that is so profound. Now that the information age is over, find out what the next phase is. And see why the specialized insights you have are going to so important. So listen here to find out why Russell agrees with Frank Kern when he says that the information age is dead. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-end-of-the-information-age-the-next-phase-is-____ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 17 May 2018 22:51:02 -0000 The End Of The Information Age... The Next Phase Is ____ full 104 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I heard something really cool today while listening to Frank Kern’s podcast and I thought I’d share it with you. I heard something really cool today while listening to Frank Kern's podcast and I thought I'd share it with you. In this episode Russell talks about listening to Frank Kern's new podcast and why he says that the information age is over. Here are some of the other things you will hear in this episode. Why Frank considers the information age to be over and why Russell thinks that is so profound. Now that the information age is over, find out what the next phase is. And see why the specialized insights you have are going to so important. So listen here to find out why Russell agrees with Frank Kern when he says that the information age is dead. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-end-of-the-information-age-the-next-phase-is-____ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I heard something really cool today while listening to Frank Kern's podcast and I thought I'd share it with you.

In this episode Russell talks about listening to Frank Kern's new podcast and why he says that the information age is over. Here are some of the other things you will hear in this episode.

  • Why Frank considers the information age to be over and why Russell thinks that is so profound.
  • Now that the information age is over, find out what the next phase is.
  • And see why the specialized insights you have are going to so important.

So listen here to find out why Russell agrees with Frank Kern when he says that the information age is dead.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-end-of-the-information-age-the-next-phase-is-____

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]]> 551 no When You Shift To This Question, Everything Will Change https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/when-you-shift-to-this-question-everything-will-change After spending time with 100 entrepreneurs inside the Inner Circle over the last two weeks, this was my biggest take-away. On this episode Russell talks about why there comes a point where money doesn't matter, as long as you're trying to grow your business for the right reasons. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell stayed up until 3:00 am to buy whatever he wanted on eBay, but only managed to spend $650. Why when you scale your business just to make more money, it's for the wrong reason. And why when you finally start asking the right questions, the money will start to flow. So listen here to find out why money doesn't buy happiness, but finding new ways to serve your customers will. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/when-you-shift-to-this-question-everything-will-change Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 16 May 2018 23:18:48 -0000 full 103 Russell Brunson | YAP Media After spending time with 100 entrepreneurs inside the Inner Circle over the last two weeks, this was my biggest take-away. After spending time with 100 entrepreneurs inside the Inner Circle over the last two weeks, this was my biggest take-away. On this episode Russell talks about why there comes a point where money doesn't matter, as long as you're trying to grow your business for the right reasons. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell stayed up until 3:00 am to buy whatever he wanted on eBay, but only managed to spend $650. Why when you scale your business just to make more money, it's for the wrong reason. And why when you finally start asking the right questions, the money will start to flow. So listen here to find out why money doesn't buy happiness, but finding new ways to serve your customers will. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/when-you-shift-to-this-question-everything-will-change Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices After spending time with 100 entrepreneurs inside the Inner Circle over the last two weeks, this was my biggest take-away.

On this episode Russell talks about why there comes a point where money doesn't matter, as long as you're trying to grow your business for the right reasons. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why Russell stayed up until 3:00 am to buy whatever he wanted on eBay, but only managed to spend $650.
  • Why when you scale your business just to make more money, it's for the wrong reason.
  • And why when you finally start asking the right questions, the money will start to flow.

So listen here to find out why money doesn't buy happiness, but finding new ways to serve your customers will.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/when-you-shift-to-this-question-everything-will-change

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]]> 680 no The Who... Not The How https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-who-not-the-how Super cool thing I learned from Dan Sullivan at Genius K (The 100K Group) last night... On this episode Russell talks about some things he learned at his 100k group. He explains the difference between the who and the how, and why he might start keeping a journal. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in today's episode: What Dan Sullivan taught him about finding the who instead of figuring out the how. Why he is going to apply that to his own projects that he has been procrastinating on. And how Ethan Willis convinced him to start keeping a journal of how God touches his life. So listen here to find out what kind of things Russell is learning in the 100k group. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-who-not-the-how Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 04 May 2018 23:02:09 -0000 The Who... Not The How full 102 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Super cool thing I learned from Dan Sullivan at Genius K (The 100K Group) last night… Super cool thing I learned from Dan Sullivan at Genius K (The 100K Group) last night... On this episode Russell talks about some things he learned at his 100k group. He explains the difference between the who and the how, and why he might start keeping a journal. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in today's episode: What Dan Sullivan taught him about finding the who instead of figuring out the how. Why he is going to apply that to his own projects that he has been procrastinating on. And how Ethan Willis convinced him to start keeping a journal of how God touches his life. So listen here to find out what kind of things Russell is learning in the 100k group. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-who-not-the-how Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Super cool thing I learned from Dan Sullivan at Genius K (The 100K Group) last night...

On this episode Russell talks about some things he learned at his 100k group. He explains the difference between the who and the how, and why he might start keeping a journal. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in today's episode:

  • What Dan Sullivan taught him about finding the who instead of figuring out the how.
  • Why he is going to apply that to his own projects that he has been procrastinating on.
  • And how Ethan Willis convinced him to start keeping a journal of how God touches his life.

So listen here to find out what kind of things Russell is learning in the 100k group.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-who-not-the-how

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]]> 982 no What To Do When You're Scared To Death Of Clicking "Publish" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-to-do-when-youre-scared-to-death-of-clicking-publish Last night as I was recording my new podcast, I realized why most of us get scared when we're about to publish something we really, really care about. On this episode Russell explains why he suddenly has empathy for people who struggle to publish their message. Here are some of the interesting things he talks about in this episode: Why he re-recorded another podcast he's doing a few times, and was still afraid to push publish. Why in the decade he's been publishing podcasts, webinars, videos, etc... he has always preached to just do, but for the first time he actually has empathy for those who have a hard time doing that. And why he is still publishing that podcast, even though he is second guessing things he said, and why you should follow in his footsteps and publish too. So listen here to find out why it took Russell more than a decade to feel empathy for people who struggle to publish their message. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-to-do-when-you-re-scared-to-death-of-clicking-publish Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:35:30 -0000 What To Do When You're Scared To Death Of Clicking "Publish" full 101 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Last night as I was recording my new podcast, I realized why most of us get scared when we’re about to publish something we really, really care about. Last night as I was recording my new podcast, I realized why most of us get scared when we're about to publish something we really, really care about. On this episode Russell explains why he suddenly has empathy for people who struggle to publish their message. Here are some of the interesting things he talks about in this episode: Why he re-recorded another podcast he's doing a few times, and was still afraid to push publish. Why in the decade he's been publishing podcasts, webinars, videos, etc... he has always preached to just do, but for the first time he actually has empathy for those who have a hard time doing that. And why he is still publishing that podcast, even though he is second guessing things he said, and why you should follow in his footsteps and publish too. So listen here to find out why it took Russell more than a decade to feel empathy for people who struggle to publish their message. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-to-do-when-you-re-scared-to-death-of-clicking-publish Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Last night as I was recording my new podcast, I realized why most of us get scared when we're about to publish something we really, really care about.

On this episode Russell explains why he suddenly has empathy for people who struggle to publish their message. Here are some of the interesting things he talks about in this episode:

  • Why he re-recorded another podcast he's doing a few times, and was still afraid to push publish.
  • Why in the decade he's been publishing podcasts, webinars, videos, etc... he has always preached to just do, but for the first time he actually has empathy for those who have a hard time doing that.
  • And why he is still publishing that podcast, even though he is second guessing things he said, and why you should follow in his footsteps and publish too.

So listen here to find out why it took Russell more than a decade to feel empathy for people who struggle to publish their message.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-to-do-when-you-re-scared-to-death-of-clicking-publish

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]]> 495 no What Happened When I Taught Expert Secrets To The Local Government and Politicians https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-happened-when-i-taught-expert-secrets-to-the-local-governmenr-and-politicians What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, I want to welcome you guys to a very special episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. This is an episode that will not be on YouTube or anything. It's only going to be here in audio format for those who are listening in, and I'm excited for you guys to hear it. Some of the back story, as you guys know, I am always excited about all this marketing stuff, I talk about it all the time, I get the chance to speak all over the world, but I say 99.9% of people who ask me to speak, just because of time, energy and money and all that kind of stuff, it's just not possible to do. But recently, my father in law asked me if I would come speak at an event that he was putting on, and it was in Burley Idaho, which is a little small town about 2 ½ hours south of Boise, and obviously I can't, I can't justify it from a business standpoint, but for my father in law, that'd be awesome. Obviously, it would give me time to hang out with my wife. So my wife and I jumped in a car on Wednesday and we drove 2 ½ hours to Burley, I spoke at this event, and then 2 ½ hours back. So it was a really fun time for us to spend together without any kids, and then had a chance to speak down there, and it was cool. But to preface it, it was a completely different audience than I've ever spoken to, ever. It was for the most part, government officials from all around Idaho. Those who are involved in economic development, how to grow the economies. So there were people from all over Idaho who came to this thing, there was probably 70 or so people. As you guys know, I'm used to speaking to entrepreneurs who are trying to change the world, and here is like government officials who are, also have good intentions as well and trying to do some awesome stuff. But they're definitely an older demographic, they're not running their own companies, it was just different. Anyway, I was really struggling, what should I teach on? What should my presentation be about? I didn't really know, and it took me a while to kind of figure out. Finally I realized that what I wanted to share with this audience was basically the stuff you guys are very familiar with, which is the Expert Secrets thing. I want to talk about building a mass movement, about influence and persuasion, storytelling and how they can use that in their own spirit of influence. How them, as government officials can build a movement to help people change. And then also how they can use it for their family. With your family, how do you create a movement with your family? How do you create a movement in different places? SO it's not just a mass movement of your customers, like we talk a lot about in Expert Secrets, but also the internal movements inside your companies, and then your family, inside of governments, whatever spirits of influence you have. So that's kind of what this presentation is, and I hooked up my iPhone and clicked record. So I kind of recorded, the audio I don't have any idea of how good or how bad it will be. But that's what it is. So there's the context, when you hear the presentation, it was definitely a different audience, the energy level is way different. So if I sound weird , that's why. I was trying like crazy to get this older group of government officials to get as excited as I am about business, about economic growth and development. I also tried to show those guys they're crazy because they don't understand the right ways to run a political campaign and I kind of teased them about that, and a bunch of other fun stuff. Hopefully it will help you guys if you're listening in on this. For those that know Expert Secrets, a lot of stuff will be kind of a review for you, but you'll have a chance to see it through a different lens, how this would work inside your family, how this works inside of a business and a bunch of other things like that. So hopefully it helps. I hope you guys love it. With that said, let's queue the intro music and let's start at the event there in Burley, Idaho. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:52:00 -0000 What Happened When I Taught Expert Secrets To The Local Government and Politicians full 100 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What Happened When I Taught Expert Secrets To The Local Government and Politicians What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, I want to welcome you guys to a very special episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. This is an episode that will not be on YouTube or anything. It's only going to be here in audio format for those who are listening in, and I'm excited for you guys to hear it. Some of the back story, as you guys know, I am always excited about all this marketing stuff, I talk about it all the time, I get the chance to speak all over the world, but I say 99.9% of people who ask me to speak, just because of time, energy and money and all that kind of stuff, it's just not possible to do. But recently, my father in law asked me if I would come speak at an event that he was putting on, and it was in Burley Idaho, which is a little small town about 2 ½ hours south of Boise, and obviously I can't, I can't justify it from a business standpoint, but for my father in law, that'd be awesome. Obviously, it would give me time to hang out with my wife. So my wife and I jumped in a car on Wednesday and we drove 2 ½ hours to Burley, I spoke at this event, and then 2 ½ hours back. So it was a really fun time for us to spend together without any kids, and then had a chance to speak down there, and it was cool. But to preface it, it was a completely different audience than I've ever spoken to, ever. It was for the most part, government officials from all around Idaho. Those who are involved in economic development, how to grow the economies. So there were people from all over Idaho who came to this thing, there was probably 70 or so people. As you guys know, I'm used to speaking to entrepreneurs who are trying to change the world, and here is like government officials who are, also have good intentions as well and trying to do some awesome stuff. But they're definitely an older demographic, they're not running their own companies, it was just different. Anyway, I was really struggling, what should I teach on? What should my presentation be about? I didn't really know, and it took me a while to kind of figure out. Finally I realized that what I wanted to share with this audience was basically the stuff you guys are very familiar with, which is the Expert Secrets thing. I want to talk about building a mass movement, about influence and persuasion, storytelling and how they can use that in their own spirit of influence. How them, as government officials can build a movement to help people change. And then also how they can use it for their family. With your family, how do you create a movement with your family? How do you create a movement in different places? SO it's not just a mass movement of your customers, like we talk a lot about in Expert Secrets, but also the internal movements inside your companies, and then your family, inside of governments, whatever spirits of influence you have. So that's kind of what this presentation is, and I hooked up my iPhone and clicked record. So I kind of recorded, the audio I don't have any idea of how good or how bad it will be. But that's what it is. So there's the context, when you hear the presentation, it was definitely a different audience, the energy level is way different. So if I sound weird , that's why. I was trying like crazy to get this older group of government officials to get as excited as I am about business, about economic growth and development. I also tried to show those guys they're crazy because they don't understand the right ways to run a political campaign and I kind of teased them about that, and a bunch of other fun stuff. Hopefully it will help you guys if you're listening in on this. For those that know Expert Secrets, a lot of stuff will be kind of a review for you, but you'll have a chance to see it through a different lens, how this would work inside your family, how this works inside of a business and a bunch of other things like that. So hopefully it helps. I hope you guys love it. With that said, let's queue the intro music and let's start at the event there in Burley, Idaho. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, I want to welcome you guys to a very special episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. This is an episode that will not be on YouTube or anything. It's only going to be here in audio format for those who are listening in, and I'm excited for you guys to hear it.

Some of the back story, as you guys know, I am always excited about all this marketing stuff, I talk about it all the time, I get the chance to speak all over the world, but I say 99.9% of people who ask me to speak, just because of time, energy and money and all that kind of stuff, it's just not possible to do.

But recently, my father in law asked me if I would come speak at an event that he was putting on, and it was in Burley Idaho, which is a little small town about 2 ½ hours south of Boise, and obviously I can't, I can't justify it from a business standpoint, but for my father in law, that'd be awesome. Obviously, it would give me time to hang out with my wife. So my wife and I jumped in a car on Wednesday and we drove 2 ½ hours to Burley, I spoke at this event, and then 2 ½ hours back.

So it was a really fun time for us to spend together without any kids, and then had a chance to speak down there, and it was cool. But to preface it, it was a completely different audience than I've ever spoken to, ever. It was for the most part, government officials from all around Idaho. Those who are involved in economic development, how to grow the economies. So there were people from all over Idaho who came to this thing, there was probably 70 or so people.

As you guys know, I'm used to speaking to entrepreneurs who are trying to change the world, and here is like government officials who are, also have good intentions as well and trying to do some awesome stuff. But they're definitely an older demographic, they're not running their own companies, it was just different.

Anyway, I was really struggling, what should I teach on? What should my presentation be about? I didn't really know, and it took me a while to kind of figure out. Finally I realized that what I wanted to share with this audience was basically the stuff you guys are very familiar with, which is the Expert Secrets thing. I want to talk about building a mass movement, about influence and persuasion, storytelling and how they can use that in their own spirit of influence. How them, as government officials can build a movement to help people change. And then also how they can use it for their family. With your family, how do you create a movement with your family? How do you create a movement in different places?

SO it's not just a mass movement of your customers, like we talk a lot about in Expert Secrets, but also the internal movements inside your companies, and then your family, inside of governments, whatever spirits of influence you have.

So that's kind of what this presentation is, and I hooked up my iPhone and clicked record. So I kind of recorded, the audio I don't have any idea of how good or how bad it will be. But that's what it is.

So there's the context, when you hear the presentation, it was definitely a different audience, the energy level is way different. So if I sound weird , that's why. I was trying like crazy to get this older group of government officials to get as excited as I am about business, about economic growth and development. I also tried to show those guys they're crazy because they don't understand the right ways to run a political campaign and I kind of teased them about that, and a bunch of other fun stuff.

Hopefully it will help you guys if you're listening in on this. For those that know Expert Secrets, a lot of stuff will be kind of a review for you, but you'll have a chance to see it through a different lens, how this would work inside your family, how this works inside of a business and a bunch of other things like that. So hopefully it helps. I hope you guys love it. With that said, let's queue the intro music and let's start at the event there in Burley, Idaho.

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]]> 5305 no Why Didn't They Funnel Hack Me... Ha Ha Ha https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-didnt-they-funnel-hack-me-ha-ha-ha Despite three years of me sharing every secret, they did all the things that I already explained were wrong. On this episode Russell talks about a competing software company that didn't follow the blueprint that Russell has already laid out and why that is so mind blowing for him. Here are some of the fun things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell is reaping the benefits of a competing software company that is no longer willing to learn. Why it's so frustrating when friends of Russell want his help but refuse to read his books as a blueprint. And why you should never expect Russell to keep a secret. So listen here to find out how if you pay attention you can easily follow the blueprint Russell has made and be successful with your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-didn-t-they-funnel-hack-me-ha-ha-ha Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:45:16 -0000 Why Didn't They Funnel Hack Me... Ha Ha Ha full 99 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Despite three years of me sharing every secret, they did all the things that I already explained were wrong. Despite three years of me sharing every secret, they did all the things that I already explained were wrong. On this episode Russell talks about a competing software company that didn't follow the blueprint that Russell has already laid out and why that is so mind blowing for him. Here are some of the fun things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell is reaping the benefits of a competing software company that is no longer willing to learn. Why it's so frustrating when friends of Russell want his help but refuse to read his books as a blueprint. And why you should never expect Russell to keep a secret. So listen here to find out how if you pay attention you can easily follow the blueprint Russell has made and be successful with your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-didn-t-they-funnel-hack-me-ha-ha-ha Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Despite three years of me sharing every secret, they did all the things that I already explained were wrong.

On this episode Russell talks about a competing software company that didn't follow the blueprint that Russell has already laid out and why that is so mind blowing for him. Here are some of the fun things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why Russell is reaping the benefits of a competing software company that is no longer willing to learn.
  • Why it's so frustrating when friends of Russell want his help but refuse to read his books as a blueprint.
  • And why you should never expect Russell to keep a secret.

So listen here to find out how if you pay attention you can easily follow the blueprint Russell has made and be successful with your business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-didn-t-they-funnel-hack-me-ha-ha-ha

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]]> 574 no Why I Throw Out So Many Hooks... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-i-throw-out-so-many-hooks Something interesting I realized this weekend about how to reactivate people, get them to commit, and finally give them their big ah-ha. On this episode Russell talks about planning a new 10x Secrets product, when he suddenly questioned why he continues to launch new products. He explains his motivation behind why he continues to do what he does. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Why getting so excited about a new idea made Russell suddenly question why he continues to put out new content. How spending money on training helps people re-commit to what they are trying to do. And why he loves reading which of his products gave people the aha that made them re-commit. So listen here to find out why it's important for Russell to continue to put out content that will hopefully inspire different people. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-i-throw-out-so-many-hooks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:36:29 -0000 Why I Throw Out So Many Hooks... full 98 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Something interesting I realized this weekend about how to reactivate people, get them to commit, and finally give them their big ah-ha. Something interesting I realized this weekend about how to reactivate people, get them to commit, and finally give them their big ah-ha. On this episode Russell talks about planning a new 10x Secrets product, when he suddenly questioned why he continues to launch new products. He explains his motivation behind why he continues to do what he does. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Why getting so excited about a new idea made Russell suddenly question why he continues to put out new content. How spending money on training helps people re-commit to what they are trying to do. And why he loves reading which of his products gave people the aha that made them re-commit. So listen here to find out why it's important for Russell to continue to put out content that will hopefully inspire different people. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-i-throw-out-so-many-hooks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Something interesting I realized this weekend about how to reactivate people, get them to commit, and finally give them their big ah-ha.

On this episode Russell talks about planning a new 10x Secrets product, when he suddenly questioned why he continues to launch new products. He explains his motivation behind why he continues to do what he does. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why getting so excited about a new idea made Russell suddenly question why he continues to put out new content.
  • How spending money on training helps people re-commit to what they are trying to do.
  • And why he loves reading which of his products gave people the aha that made them re-commit.

So listen here to find out why it's important for Russell to continue to put out content that will hopefully inspire different people.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-i-throw-out-so-many-hooks

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]]> 755 no The Hook, The Story, And The Offer https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-hook-the-story-and-the-offer How to create the right hook that'll make it so that selling becomes almost super easy. On this episode Russell gives a condensed version of a training he did for Two Comma Club X, where he teaches about the hook, story and offer. Here are some of the things you will hear on today's episode: Why it's so important to have a hook that grabs people's attention. What he used as the hook for his recently launched Book of Mormon Challenge Podcast. A few other examples of hooks people used to sell their own products, and why they were so effective. So listen here to get a quick idea of what you need to know about having a great hook and story to be able to really sell what you're offering. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-hook-the-story-and-the-offer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:49:40 -0000 The Hook, The Story, And The Offer full 97 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to create the right hook that’ll make it so that selling becomes almost super easy. How to create the right hook that'll make it so that selling becomes almost super easy. On this episode Russell gives a condensed version of a training he did for Two Comma Club X, where he teaches about the hook, story and offer. Here are some of the things you will hear on today's episode: Why it's so important to have a hook that grabs people's attention. What he used as the hook for his recently launched Book of Mormon Challenge Podcast. A few other examples of hooks people used to sell their own products, and why they were so effective. So listen here to get a quick idea of what you need to know about having a great hook and story to be able to really sell what you're offering. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-hook-the-story-and-the-offer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to create the right hook that'll make it so that selling becomes almost super easy.

On this episode Russell gives a condensed version of a training he did for Two Comma Club X, where he teaches about the hook, story and offer. Here are some of the things you will hear on today's episode:

  • Why it's so important to have a hook that grabs people's attention.
  • What he used as the hook for his recently launched Book of Mormon Challenge Podcast.
  • A few other examples of hooks people used to sell their own products, and why they were so effective.

So listen here to get a quick idea of what you need to know about having a great hook and story to be able to really sell what you're offering.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-hook-the-story-and-the-offer

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]]> 823 no RUSSELL'S RANT: How Can This Work For My Business https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/russells-rant-how-can-this-work-for-my-business If you think that this stuff doesn't work for eCommerce, network marketing, local businesses, non profits, and your business... think again. Let me show you how this process works for all businesses. On today's episode Russell talks about why and how you can use Expert Secrets to 10x or 100x ANY business. Here's some of the awesomeness you will hear in this episode: Why you need to stop thinking, "This won't work for my business." and start thinking, "How can I make this work for my business?" instead. Hear Russell come up with some offers on the fly on something as ordinary as a coffee mug. And find out why it took Russell launching Clickfunnels six times before it finally blew up. So listen here to find out why you can use Expert Secrets to grow and scale any business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/russell-s-rant-how-can-this-work-for-my-business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:12:00 -0000 RUSSELL'S RANT: How Can This Work For My Business full 96 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you think that this stuff doesn’t work for eCommerce, network marketing, local businesses, non profits, and your business… think again. Let me show you how this process works for all businesses. If you think that this stuff doesn't work for eCommerce, network marketing, local businesses, non profits, and your business... think again. Let me show you how this process works for all businesses. On today's episode Russell talks about why and how you can use Expert Secrets to 10x or 100x ANY business. Here's some of the awesomeness you will hear in this episode: Why you need to stop thinking, "This won't work for my business." and start thinking, "How can I make this work for my business?" instead. Hear Russell come up with some offers on the fly on something as ordinary as a coffee mug. And find out why it took Russell launching Clickfunnels six times before it finally blew up. So listen here to find out why you can use Expert Secrets to grow and scale any business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/russell-s-rant-how-can-this-work-for-my-business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you think that this stuff doesn't work for eCommerce, network marketing, local businesses, non profits, and your business... think again. Let me show you how this process works for all businesses.

On today's episode Russell talks about why and how you can use Expert Secrets to 10x or 100x ANY business. Here's some of the awesomeness you will hear in this episode:

  • Why you need to stop thinking, "This won't work for my business." and start thinking, "How can I make this work for my business?" instead.
  • Hear Russell come up with some offers on the fly on something as ordinary as a coffee mug.
  • And find out why it took Russell launching Clickfunnels six times before it finally blew up.

So listen here to find out why you can use Expert Secrets to grow and scale any business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/russell-s-rant-how-can-this-work-for-my-business

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]]> 1424 no Funnel Hacking Live Recap - Day 4 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-4-of-4 Today's topic was "how to change the world"! On this episode Russell recaps the fourth and final day of Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things that happened on day four: Brian Bowman speaks about acting with a sense of urgency. What happened that caused Russell to realize that next year there will have to be security at the event. How Myron was able to close even more people into Two Comma Club X And how Garret White and Tony Robins rounded out the day. So listen here to find out all the awesome details that happened during the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 06 Apr 2018 23:00:22 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live Recap - Day 4 of 4 full 95 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today’s topic was “how to change the world” Today's topic was "how to change the world"! On this episode Russell recaps the fourth and final day of Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things that happened on day four: Brian Bowman speaks about acting with a sense of urgency. What happened that caused Russell to realize that next year there will have to be security at the event. How Myron was able to close even more people into Two Comma Club X And how Garret White and Tony Robins rounded out the day. So listen here to find out all the awesome details that happened during the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-4-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today's topic was "how to change the world"!

On this episode Russell recaps the fourth and final day of Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things that happened on day four:

  • Brian Bowman speaks about acting with a sense of urgency.
  • What happened that caused Russell to realize that next year there will have to be security at the event.
  • How Myron was able to close even more people into Two Comma Club X
  • And how Garret White and Tony Robins rounded out the day.

So listen here to find out all the awesome details that happened during the final day of Funnel Hacking Live 2018.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-4-of-4

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]]> 707 no Funnel Hacking Live Recap - Day 3 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-3-of-4 Today we laid out the path and the process to become a member of the two comma club. On today's episode Russell recaps day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live, which had a theme of the Two Comma Club. Here are some of the awesome things that happened day 3: Find out how many people received Two Comma Club awards, and the new Two Comma Club X awards. Find out what kind of coaching program Two Comma Club X is, how much it costs, and what the goal of it is. And find out how Russell chooses who speaks at Funnel Hacking Live every year. So listen here to hear a quick recap of all the awesome stuff that happened on day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 06 Apr 2018 00:03:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live Recap - Day 3 of 4 full 94 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Today we laid out the path and the process to become a member of the two comma club. Today we laid out the path and the process to become a member of the two comma club. On today's episode Russell recaps day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live, which had a theme of the Two Comma Club. Here are some of the awesome things that happened day 3: Find out how many people received Two Comma Club awards, and the new Two Comma Club X awards. Find out what kind of coaching program Two Comma Club X is, how much it costs, and what the goal of it is. And find out how Russell chooses who speaks at Funnel Hacking Live every year. So listen here to hear a quick recap of all the awesome stuff that happened on day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-3-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Today we laid out the path and the process to become a member of the two comma club.

On today's episode Russell recaps day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live, which had a theme of the Two Comma Club. Here are some of the awesome things that happened day 3:

  • Find out how many people received Two Comma Club awards, and the new Two Comma Club X awards.
  • Find out what kind of coaching program Two Comma Club X is, how much it costs, and what the goal of it is.
  • And find out how Russell chooses who speaks at Funnel Hacking Live every year.

So listen here to hear a quick recap of all the awesome stuff that happened on day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-3-of-4

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]]> 969 no Funnel Hacking Live Recap - Day 2 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-2-of-4 Day 2 at Funnel Hacking Live focused on how you're just one funnel away... On today's episode Russell recaps day number two of Funnel Hacking Live, which contained amazing things about funnels like: Several different kinds of funnels such as, Free Plus Shipping Funnels, Documentary Funnels, Webinar Funnels, Relationships Funnels, etc. Russell goes into a little detail about his Funnel Audibles presentation, as well as a few other people's presentations. And Find out how much money Clickfunnels was able to donate to World Teacher Aide from all live funnels. So listen here to find out about all the stuff you may have missed during day two of Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Apr 2018 23:01:00 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live Recap - Day 2 of 4 full 93 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Day 2 at Funnel Hacking Live focused on how you’re just one funnel away… Day 2 at Funnel Hacking Live focused on how you're just one funnel away... On today's episode Russell recaps day number two of Funnel Hacking Live, which contained amazing things about funnels like: Several different kinds of funnels such as, Free Plus Shipping Funnels, Documentary Funnels, Webinar Funnels, Relationships Funnels, etc. Russell goes into a little detail about his Funnel Audibles presentation, as well as a few other people's presentations. And Find out how much money Clickfunnels was able to donate to World Teacher Aide from all live funnels. So listen here to find out about all the stuff you may have missed during day two of Funnel Hacking Live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-2-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Day 2 at Funnel Hacking Live focused on how you're just one funnel away...

On today's episode Russell recaps day number two of Funnel Hacking Live, which contained amazing things about funnels like:

  • Several different kinds of funnels such as, Free Plus Shipping Funnels, Documentary Funnels, Webinar Funnels, Relationships Funnels, etc.
  • Russell goes into a little detail about his Funnel Audibles presentation, as well as a few other people's presentations.
  • And Find out how much money Clickfunnels was able to donate to World Teacher Aide from all live funnels.

So listen here to find out about all the stuff you may have missed during day two of Funnel Hacking Live.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-2-of-4

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]]> 960 no Funnel Hacking Live Recap - Day 1 of 4 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-1-of-4 My own personal biggest take-aways from the first day of Funnel Hacking Live. On today's episode Russell talks about the events and speakers from the first day of 2018 Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the coolest parts of day one: Seeing all the Two Comma Club winners, as well as the all the people who made 8 figures and their awesome awards. Finding out what Operation Underground Railroad is and how much money they were able to raise on their behalf. Being able to watch the documentary film about OUR, to inspire people to help. So listen to this episode to be able to relive what happened the first day of Funnel Hacking Live, or be filled with regret if you missed it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 28 Mar 2018 22:42:03 -0000 Funnel Hacking Live Recap - Day 1 of 4 full 92 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My own personal biggest take-aways from the first day of Funnel Hacking Live. My own personal biggest take-aways from the first day of Funnel Hacking Live. On today's episode Russell talks about the events and speakers from the first day of 2018 Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the coolest parts of day one: Seeing all the Two Comma Club winners, as well as the all the people who made 8 figures and their awesome awards. Finding out what Operation Underground Railroad is and how much money they were able to raise on their behalf. Being able to watch the documentary film about OUR, to inspire people to help. So listen to this episode to be able to relive what happened the first day of Funnel Hacking Live, or be filled with regret if you missed it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-1-of-4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My own personal biggest take-aways from the first day of Funnel Hacking Live.

On today's episode Russell talks about the events and speakers from the first day of 2018 Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the coolest parts of day one:

  • Seeing all the Two Comma Club winners, as well as the all the people who made 8 figures and their awesome awards.
  • Finding out what Operation Underground Railroad is and how much money they were able to raise on their behalf.
  • Being able to watch the documentary film about OUR, to inspire people to help.

So listen to this episode to be able to relive what happened the first day of Funnel Hacking Live, or be filled with regret if you missed it.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacking-live-recap-day-1-of-4

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]]> 1069 no Funnel Audibles https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-audibles What to do when your baby flops. On today's episode Russell talks about what one of his presentations for Funnel Hacking Live and why he is giving it. Here are a few of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: What was the inspiration behind Funnel Audibles. Why it's so important to split test your funnels to go from good funnels to great funnels. And what you can expect to hear during the Funnel Audibles presentation at Funnel Hacking Live. So listen here to find out what Funnel Audibles is, and why it's going to be a great presentation. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-audibles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 16 Mar 2018 22:02:25 -0000 Funnel Audibles full 91 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What to do when your baby flops. What to do when your baby flops. On today's episode Russell talks about what one of his presentations for Funnel Hacking Live and why he is giving it. Here are a few of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: What was the inspiration behind Funnel Audibles. Why it's so important to split test your funnels to go from good funnels to great funnels. And what you can expect to hear during the Funnel Audibles presentation at Funnel Hacking Live. So listen here to find out what Funnel Audibles is, and why it's going to be a great presentation. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-audibles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What to do when your baby flops.

On today's episode Russell talks about what one of his presentations for Funnel Hacking Live and why he is giving it. Here are a few of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • What was the inspiration behind Funnel Audibles.
  • Why it's so important to split test your funnels to go from good funnels to great funnels.
  • And what you can expect to hear during the Funnel Audibles presentation at Funnel Hacking Live.

So listen here to find out what Funnel Audibles is, and why it's going to be a great presentation.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-audibles

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]]> 527 no Funnel Hack Everything... Not Just Their Funnel https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hack-everything-not-just-their-funnel Do your homework, funnel hack everything, and Russell's new motivation. On this episode Russell talks about listening to a podcast and finding out what company he now wants to compete against. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on today's episode: Find out what company Russell discovered that he now gets to compete against. Find out what part of the company Russell wants to hack, because it's not actually funnels. And find out all the ways that you should be hacking other businesses so that you know the ins and out of the market you are in. So listen here to hear what company Russell wants to compete with next, and how he will funnel hack them. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hack-everything-not-just-their-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 15 Mar 2018 22:38:28 -0000 Funnel Hack Everything... Not Just Their Funnel full 90 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Do your homework, funnel hack everything, and Russell’s new motivation. Do your homework, funnel hack everything, and Russell's new motivation. On this episode Russell talks about listening to a podcast and finding out what company he now wants to compete against. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on today's episode: Find out what company Russell discovered that he now gets to compete against. Find out what part of the company Russell wants to hack, because it's not actually funnels. And find out all the ways that you should be hacking other businesses so that you know the ins and out of the market you are in. So listen here to hear what company Russell wants to compete with next, and how he will funnel hack them. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hack-everything-not-just-their-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Do your homework, funnel hack everything, and Russell's new motivation.

On this episode Russell talks about listening to a podcast and finding out what company he now wants to compete against. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on today's episode:

  • Find out what company Russell discovered that he now gets to compete against.
  • Find out what part of the company Russell wants to hack, because it's not actually funnels.
  • And find out all the ways that you should be hacking other businesses so that you know the ins and out of the market you are in.

So listen here to hear what company Russell wants to compete with next, and how he will funnel hack them.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hack-everything-not-just-their-funnel

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]]> 474 no Simplifying And Sexifying Your Message... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/simplifying-and-sexifying-your-message Behind the scenes of what I'm currently doing to simplify and sexify my messages. On this episode Russell talks about how much time he spends simplifying his presentations so that even his kids could understand his concepts. Here are some of the other things to listen for in this episode: Why it's so important to cut out the techno babble and complex concepts from your message. Why you need to make your message sexy or intriguing to the audience. And why its important for your audience that you spend an enormous amount of time learning a concept and then simplifying it for them. So listen here to find out why Russell thinks its so important to simplify and sexify your message. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/simplifying-and-sexifying-your-message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:25:34 -0000 Simplifying And Sexifying Your Message... full 89 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes of what I’m currently doing to simplify and sexify my messages. Behind the scenes of what I'm currently doing to simplify and sexify my messages. On this episode Russell talks about how much time he spends simplifying his presentations so that even his kids could understand his concepts. Here are some of the other things to listen for in this episode: Why it's so important to cut out the techno babble and complex concepts from your message. Why you need to make your message sexy or intriguing to the audience. And why its important for your audience that you spend an enormous amount of time learning a concept and then simplifying it for them. So listen here to find out why Russell thinks its so important to simplify and sexify your message. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/simplifying-and-sexifying-your-message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes of what I'm currently doing to simplify and sexify my messages.

On this episode Russell talks about how much time he spends simplifying his presentations so that even his kids could understand his concepts. Here are some of the other things to listen for in this episode:

  • Why it's so important to cut out the techno babble and complex concepts from your message.
  • Why you need to make your message sexy or intriguing to the audience.
  • And why its important for your audience that you spend an enormous amount of time learning a concept and then simplifying it for them.

So listen here to find out why Russell thinks its so important to simplify and sexify your message.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/simplifying-and-sexifying-your-message

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]]> 687 no Hook, Headline, Framework https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/hook-headline-framework How We Create Presentations That Are SUPER Sexy, That Get Attention And Make It Simple To Teach On this episode Russell talks about all the work that goes into putting his presentations together for Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell spends so much time on the headline and the framework of a presentation. Why it is so important to make sure the headline is sexy. And why if he has a framework put together, Russell can do a 90 minute presentation without even having slides. So listen here to find out the process Russell goes through to create a headline and framework for a presentation. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/hook-headline-framework Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 07 Mar 2018 23:53:09 -0000 Hook, Headline, Framework full 88 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How We Create Presentations That Are SUPER Sexy, That Get Attention And Make It Simple To Teach How We Create Presentations That Are SUPER Sexy, That Get Attention And Make It Simple To Teach On this episode Russell talks about all the work that goes into putting his presentations together for Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell spends so much time on the headline and the framework of a presentation. Why it is so important to make sure the headline is sexy. And why if he has a framework put together, Russell can do a 90 minute presentation without even having slides. So listen here to find out the process Russell goes through to create a headline and framework for a presentation. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/hook-headline-framework Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How We Create Presentations That Are SUPER Sexy, That Get Attention And Make It Simple To Teach

On this episode Russell talks about all the work that goes into putting his presentations together for Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why Russell spends so much time on the headline and the framework of a presentation.
  • Why it is so important to make sure the headline is sexy.
  • And why if he has a framework put together, Russell can do a 90 minute presentation without even having slides.

So listen here to find out the process Russell goes through to create a headline and framework for a presentation.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/hook-headline-framework

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]]> 868 no If I Was Running For President (Or Any Political Office)... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/if-i-was-running-for-president-or-any-political-office The marketing strategy I would use if I was going to try to literally take over the world... or my city. On this episode Russell rants about politicians in his area that use boring signs on the side of the road to campaign. He discusses in detail the ways he would market himself if he were to run for political office. Here are some of the awesome things you will here in this episode: Find out why Russell believes politicians are the worst marketers ever. Hear how Russell would plan to gain a larger audience and in turn more votes. And find out why if you're a politician you should take a copy of Expert Secrets, rip off the cover and use it to run your campaign marketing. So listen here to find out why if Russell cared about politics and ran for political office, he would win. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/if-i-was-running-for-president-or-any-political-office Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 02 Mar 2018 23:51:00 -0000 If I Was Running For President (Or Any Political Office)... full 87 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The marketing strategy I would use if I was going to try to literally take over the world… or my city. The marketing strategy I would use if I was going to try to literally take over the world... or my city. On this episode Russell rants about politicians in his area that use boring signs on the side of the road to campaign. He discusses in detail the ways he would market himself if he were to run for political office. Here are some of the awesome things you will here in this episode: Find out why Russell believes politicians are the worst marketers ever. Hear how Russell would plan to gain a larger audience and in turn more votes. And find out why if you're a politician you should take a copy of Expert Secrets, rip off the cover and use it to run your campaign marketing. So listen here to find out why if Russell cared about politics and ran for political office, he would win. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/if-i-was-running-for-president-or-any-political-office Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The marketing strategy I would use if I was going to try to literally take over the world... or my city.

On this episode Russell rants about politicians in his area that use boring signs on the side of the road to campaign. He discusses in detail the ways he would market himself if he were to run for political office. Here are some of the awesome things you will here in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell believes politicians are the worst marketers ever.
  • Hear how Russell would plan to gain a larger audience and in turn more votes.
  • And find out why if you're a politician you should take a copy of Expert Secrets, rip off the cover and use it to run your campaign marketing.

So listen here to find out why if Russell cared about politics and ran for political office, he would win.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/if-i-was-running-for-president-or-any-political-office

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]]> 615 no How I Made 3 Million Dollars In 90 Minutes... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-i-made-3-million-dollars-in-90-minutes A breakdown behind the scenes of everything that went into the 3 million dollars in 90 minutes from Grant Cardone's 10X event. On this episode Russell goes through a play by play of Grant Cardone's 10x event and how he was able to make 3 million dollars in just 90 minutes. He also answers 12 questions people have been asking since the event. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on today's episode: What kinds of things Russell and his team did to prepare for the event so they would have the ability to sell to such a large crowd. How this offer differed from the offer he presented at last years 10x event. What Russell did to get in state before presenting onstage in front of almost 9,000 people. And find out the answers to the 12 questions everyone has been asking since the event took place. So listen here to hear the amazing tale of how Russell was able to make $3 million dollars in just 90 minutes. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-i-made-3-million-dollars-in-90-minutes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:53:50 -0000 How I Made 3 Million Dollars In 90 Minutes... full 86 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A breakdown behind the scenes of everything that went into the 3 million dollars in 90 minutes from Grant Cardone’s 10X event. A breakdown behind the scenes of everything that went into the 3 million dollars in 90 minutes from Grant Cardone's 10X event. On this episode Russell goes through a play by play of Grant Cardone's 10x event and how he was able to make 3 million dollars in just 90 minutes. He also answers 12 questions people have been asking since the event. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on today's episode: What kinds of things Russell and his team did to prepare for the event so they would have the ability to sell to such a large crowd. How this offer differed from the offer he presented at last years 10x event. What Russell did to get in state before presenting onstage in front of almost 9,000 people. And find out the answers to the 12 questions everyone has been asking since the event took place. So listen here to hear the amazing tale of how Russell was able to make $3 million dollars in just 90 minutes. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-i-made-3-million-dollars-in-90-minutes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A breakdown behind the scenes of everything that went into the 3 million dollars in 90 minutes from Grant Cardone's 10X event.

On this episode Russell goes through a play by play of Grant Cardone's 10x event and how he was able to make 3 million dollars in just 90 minutes. He also answers 12 questions people have been asking since the event. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on today's episode:

  • What kinds of things Russell and his team did to prepare for the event so they would have the ability to sell to such a large crowd.
  • How this offer differed from the offer he presented at last years 10x event.
  • What Russell did to get in state before presenting onstage in front of almost 9,000 people.
  • And find out the answers to the 12 questions everyone has been asking since the event took place.

So listen here to hear the amazing tale of how Russell was able to make $3 million dollars in just 90 minutes.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-i-made-3-million-dollars-in-90-minutes

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]]> 2022 no Project "Mother Funnel" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/project-mother-funnel A quick glimpse behind the scene of what's happening here on our biggest, most crazy, funnel to date. On today's episode Russell talks about the new Project Mother Funnel that should be rolling out in the next 30-60 days. Here are some of the awesome things you will learn about it in this episode: What Project Mother Funnel is and what it's designed to do. How it will help decrease churn rate by weeding out the customers Russell doesn't want. And how it will help new customers stick. So listen here to find out what you can expect when Project Mother Funnel is finally live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/project-mother-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:47:15 -0000 Project "Mother Funnel" full 85 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A quick glimpse behind the scene of what’s happening here on our biggest, most crazy, funnel to date. A quick glimpse behind the scene of what's happening here on our biggest, most crazy, funnel to date. On today's episode Russell talks about the new Project Mother Funnel that should be rolling out in the next 30-60 days. Here are some of the awesome things you will learn about it in this episode: What Project Mother Funnel is and what it's designed to do. How it will help decrease churn rate by weeding out the customers Russell doesn't want. And how it will help new customers stick. So listen here to find out what you can expect when Project Mother Funnel is finally live. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/project-mother-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A quick glimpse behind the scene of what's happening here on our biggest, most crazy, funnel to date.

On today's episode Russell talks about the new Project Mother Funnel that should be rolling out in the next 30-60 days. Here are some of the awesome things you will learn about it in this episode:

  • What Project Mother Funnel is and what it's designed to do.
  • How it will help decrease churn rate by weeding out the customers Russell doesn't want.
  • And how it will help new customers stick.

So listen here to find out what you can expect when Project Mother Funnel is finally live.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/project-mother-funnel

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]]> 541 no How To Get Yourself And Others Past The Initial Pain So You Can Get To Desire Fast https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-get-yourself-and-others-past-the-initial-pain-so-you-can-get-to-desire-fast The quickest way to get your team to help you win. On this episode Russell talks about how to get over the initial pain when you start something new and create desire. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for on today's episode: Find out why starting a new business is similar to starting a new sport, because it doesn't get fun until you have a win. Hear the fun story of Russell's first win in wrestling, and how that is what made him decide that he was a wrestler. And find out why you need to start will small wins in order to work your way up to the big ones. So listen here to find out why you need to be able to have a win, in order to create desire, in whatever it is you are doing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-get-yourself-and-others-past-the-initial-pain-so-you-can-get-to-desire-fast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 15 Feb 2018 23:07:29 -0000 How To Get Yourself And Others Past The Initial Pain So You Can Get To Desire Fast full 84 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The quickest way to get your team to help you win. The quickest way to get your team to help you win. On this episode Russell talks about how to get over the initial pain when you start something new and create desire. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for on today's episode: Find out why starting a new business is similar to starting a new sport, because it doesn't get fun until you have a win. Hear the fun story of Russell's first win in wrestling, and how that is what made him decide that he was a wrestler. And find out why you need to start will small wins in order to work your way up to the big ones. So listen here to find out why you need to be able to have a win, in order to create desire, in whatever it is you are doing. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-get-yourself-and-others-past-the-initial-pain-so-you-can-get-to-desire-fast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The quickest way to get your team to help you win.

On this episode Russell talks about how to get over the initial pain when you start something new and create desire. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for on today's episode:

  • Find out why starting a new business is similar to starting a new sport, because it doesn't get fun until you have a win.
  • Hear the fun story of Russell's first win in wrestling, and how that is what made him decide that he was a wrestler.
  • And find out why you need to start will small wins in order to work your way up to the big ones.

So listen here to find out why you need to be able to have a win, in order to create desire, in whatever it is you are doing.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-get-yourself-and-others-past-the-initial-pain-so-you-can-get-to-desire-fast

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]]> 531 no Avoiding Burnout, Results First, And So Much More https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/avoiding-burnout-results-first-and-so-much-more A private vox from inner circle member Bryan Bowman that I thought would benefit you. On this episode Russell plays a voxer message he received from Bryan Bowman about burnout. Here are some of the cool things you will here in today's episode: How whiteboarding helped Bryan re-light a fire within him. And what two questions should every entrepreneur be asking themselves to avoid burnout. So listen here to find out what Bryan Bowman has to say about burn out, and he how got fired up again. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/avoiding-burnout-results-first-and-so-much-more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:26:44 -0000 Avoiding Burnout, Results First, And So Much More bonus 83 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A private vox from inner circle member Bryan Bowman that I thought would benefit you. A private vox from inner circle member Bryan Bowman that I thought would benefit you. On this episode Russell plays a voxer message he received from Bryan Bowman about burnout. Here are some of the cool things you will here in today's episode: How whiteboarding helped Bryan re-light a fire within him. And what two questions should every entrepreneur be asking themselves to avoid burnout. So listen here to find out what Bryan Bowman has to say about burn out, and he how got fired up again. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/avoiding-burnout-results-first-and-so-much-more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A private vox from inner circle member Bryan Bowman that I thought would benefit you.

On this episode Russell plays a voxer message he received from Bryan Bowman about burnout. Here are some of the cool things you will here in today's episode:

  • How whiteboarding helped Bryan re-light a fire within him.
  • And what two questions should every entrepreneur be asking themselves to avoid burnout.

So listen here to find out what Bryan Bowman has to say about burn out, and he how got fired up again.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/avoiding-burnout-results-first-and-so-much-more

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]]> 508 no Behind The Scenes Of Decade In A Day With Dana Derricks https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/behind-the-scenes-of-decade-in-a-day-with-dana-derricks Listen as "The Goat Farmer" drops some powerful Q & A during this episode of Marketing Secrets. On this special episode Russell is interviewed by Dana Derricks for Decade in a Day. Here are some of the fun and informative questions you will get to hear the answers to: What would be the one thing Russell would suggest anybody starting out in business should focus on? What's Russell's biggest secret to building funnels? What Russell wishes he would have done differently? And what Russell's team relieves him from? So listen here for the answers to these questions and many more from Dana Derricks. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-decade-in-a-day-with-dana-derricks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:01:30 -0000 Behind The Scenes Of Decade In A Day With Dana Derricks full 82 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen as “The Goat Farmer” drops some powerful Q & A during this episode of Marketing Secrets. Listen as "The Goat Farmer" drops some powerful Q & A during this episode of Marketing Secrets. On this special episode Russell is interviewed by Dana Derricks for Decade in a Day. Here are some of the fun and informative questions you will get to hear the answers to: What would be the one thing Russell would suggest anybody starting out in business should focus on? What's Russell's biggest secret to building funnels? What Russell wishes he would have done differently? And what Russell's team relieves him from? So listen here for the answers to these questions and many more from Dana Derricks. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-decade-in-a-day-with-dana-derricks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen as "The Goat Farmer" drops some powerful Q & A during this episode of Marketing Secrets.

On this special episode Russell is interviewed by Dana Derricks for Decade in a Day. Here are some of the fun and informative questions you will get to hear the answers to:

  • What would be the one thing Russell would suggest anybody starting out in business should focus on?
  • What's Russell's biggest secret to building funnels?
  • What Russell wishes he would have done differently?
  • And what Russell's team relieves him from?

So listen here for the answers to these questions and many more from Dana Derricks.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-decade-in-a-day-with-dana-derricks

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]]> 2327 no The Pride Cycle, And How It Affects Your Company https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-pride-cycle-and-how-it-affects-your-company Understanding the "Pride Cycle" can keep your business protected from yourself. On today's episode Russell talks about the pride cycle and how he stays humble. Here a few of the amazing things in this episode: Find out what the pride cycle is and why you have to go through it to learn how to stay humble. Hear how Russell keeps himself humble so he doesn't have to go through a third crash. And find out why sometimes pride isn't the reason for your crash, you just needed to go another direction. So listen here to find out how to keep yourself humble in your business so you don't have to be humbled. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-pride-cycle-and-how-it-affects-your-company Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 09 Feb 2018 23:26:08 -0000 The Pride Cycle, And How It Affects Your Company full 81 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Understanding the “Pride Cycle” can keep your business protected from yourself. Understanding the "Pride Cycle" can keep your business protected from yourself. On today's episode Russell talks about the pride cycle and how he stays humble. Here a few of the amazing things in this episode: Find out what the pride cycle is and why you have to go through it to learn how to stay humble. Hear how Russell keeps himself humble so he doesn't have to go through a third crash. And find out why sometimes pride isn't the reason for your crash, you just needed to go another direction. So listen here to find out how to keep yourself humble in your business so you don't have to be humbled. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-pride-cycle-and-how-it-affects-your-company Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Understanding the "Pride Cycle" can keep your business protected from yourself.

On today's episode Russell talks about the pride cycle and how he stays humble. Here a few of the amazing things in this episode:

  • Find out what the pride cycle is and why you have to go through it to learn how to stay humble.
  • Hear how Russell keeps himself humble so he doesn't have to go through a third crash.
  • And find out why sometimes pride isn't the reason for your crash, you just needed to go another direction.

So listen here to find out how to keep yourself humble in your business so you don't have to be humbled.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-pride-cycle-and-how-it-affects-your-company

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]]> 896 no Uh Oh, The Facebook Slap Has Officially Hit, Yet Funnel Hackers Rejoice https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/uh-oh-the-facebook-slap-has-officially-hit-yet-funnel-hackers-rejoice What to be aware of with the new "Facebook Slap" and how to protect yourself and your business so you can not only survive, but you can thrive. On today's podcast Russell talks about the recently announced Facebook slap that is going to change everything for direct response marketers. He also reflects on some of what happened during the Google slaps years ago. Here are some of the helpful things you will hear in this episode. Find out what the Facebook slap means and how it will change things for Russell and other direct response marketers. See why Russell has experience with these sort of things and why that makes him well informed and qualified to help others. And find out what you should be doing to get ahead of the game and not be hit so hard with the changes on Facebook. So listen here if you want to find out how to stay profitable despite all the changes coming to Facebook. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/uh-oh-the-facebook-slap-has-officially-hit-yet-funnel-hackers-rejoice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 08 Feb 2018 23:57:00 -0000 Uh Oh, The Facebook Slap Has Officially Hit, Yet Funnel Hackers Rejoice full 80 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What to be aware of with the new “Facebook Slap” and how to protect yourself and your business so you can not only survive, but you can thrive. What to be aware of with the new "Facebook Slap" and how to protect yourself and your business so you can not only survive, but you can thrive. On today's podcast Russell talks about the recently announced Facebook slap that is going to change everything for direct response marketers. He also reflects on some of what happened during the Google slaps years ago. Here are some of the helpful things you will hear in this episode. Find out what the Facebook slap means and how it will change things for Russell and other direct response marketers. See why Russell has experience with these sort of things and why that makes him well informed and qualified to help others. And find out what you should be doing to get ahead of the game and not be hit so hard with the changes on Facebook. So listen here if you want to find out how to stay profitable despite all the changes coming to Facebook. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/uh-oh-the-facebook-slap-has-officially-hit-yet-funnel-hackers-rejoice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What to be aware of with the new "Facebook Slap" and how to protect yourself and your business so you can not only survive, but you can thrive.

On today's podcast Russell talks about the recently announced Facebook slap that is going to change everything for direct response marketers. He also reflects on some of what happened during the Google slaps years ago. Here are some of the helpful things you will hear in this episode.

  • Find out what the Facebook slap means and how it will change things for Russell and other direct response marketers.
  • See why Russell has experience with these sort of things and why that makes him well informed and qualified to help others.
  • And find out what you should be doing to get ahead of the game and not be hit so hard with the changes on Facebook.

So listen here if you want to find out how to stay profitable despite all the changes coming to Facebook.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/uh-oh-the-facebook-slap-has-officially-hit-yet-funnel-hackers-rejoice

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]]> 589 no One Secret To Making A Remote Team Work https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/one-secret-to-making-a-remote-team-work Even though we have 150 employees, only 20 of them are in Boise, so this is how we keep momentum happening. On today's episode Russell updates a little on if his kids are enjoying wrestling and he also reveals one secret to making a remote team work. Here are the awesome things in this episode: Find out which of Russell's kids actually appears to have enjoyed the first wrestling practice out in the wrestling room, despite so much complaining. And hear what one of the important factors is to having a remote team work successfully. So listen here to find out one of the reasons Russell's remote team works out so well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/one-secret-to-making-a-remote-team-work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 07 Feb 2018 22:42:59 -0000 One Secret To Making A Remote Team Work full 79 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Even though we have 150 employees, only 20 of them are in Boise, so this is how we keep momentum happening. Even though we have 150 employees, only 20 of them are in Boise, so this is how we keep momentum happening. On today's episode Russell updates a little on if his kids are enjoying wrestling and he also reveals one secret to making a remote team work. Here are the awesome things in this episode: Find out which of Russell's kids actually appears to have enjoyed the first wrestling practice out in the wrestling room, despite so much complaining. And hear what one of the important factors is to having a remote team work successfully. So listen here to find out one of the reasons Russell's remote team works out so well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/one-secret-to-making-a-remote-team-work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Even though we have 150 employees, only 20 of them are in Boise, so this is how we keep momentum happening.

On today's episode Russell updates a little on if his kids are enjoying wrestling and he also reveals one secret to making a remote team work. Here are the awesome things in this episode:

  • Find out which of Russell's kids actually appears to have enjoyed the first wrestling practice out in the wrestling room, despite so much complaining.
  • And hear what one of the important factors is to having a remote team work successfully.

So listen here to find out one of the reasons Russell's remote team works out so well.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/one-secret-to-making-a-remote-team-work

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]]> 387 no Breaking Through The Initial Opposition And Resistance When You Start A New Thing https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/breaking-through-the-initial-opposition-and-resistance-when-you-start-a-new-thing Semi-deep thoughts from inside the wrestling room. On this episode Russell talks about how trying to teach his boys to love wrestling the way he does has been met with a lot of resistance, but why he isn't giving up. Here are some of the cool things in this episode: Why even though Russell's boys have not really enjoyed wrestling so far, it's important to push forward anyway. Why anything new that you try to do brings resistance, but if it's important you need to continue to move forward. And how getting his boys to do wrestling is similar to starting something new with your business. You need to be passionate about it if it's going to work. So listen here to find out why you should continue to push forward in the new things you try, despite the initial resistance you will get. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/breaking-through-the-initial-opposition-and-resistance-when-you-start-a-new-thing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 06 Feb 2018 22:53:53 -0000 Breaking Through The Initial Opposition And Resistance When You Start A New Thing full 78 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Semi-deep thoughts from inside the wrestling room. Semi-deep thoughts from inside the wrestling room. On this episode Russell talks about how trying to teach his boys to love wrestling the way he does has been met with a lot of resistance, but why he isn't giving up. Here are some of the cool things in this episode: Why even though Russell's boys have not really enjoyed wrestling so far, it's important to push forward anyway. Why anything new that you try to do brings resistance, but if it's important you need to continue to move forward. And how getting his boys to do wrestling is similar to starting something new with your business. You need to be passionate about it if it's going to work. So listen here to find out why you should continue to push forward in the new things you try, despite the initial resistance you will get. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/breaking-through-the-initial-opposition-and-resistance-when-you-start-a-new-thing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Semi-deep thoughts from inside the wrestling room.

On this episode Russell talks about how trying to teach his boys to love wrestling the way he does has been met with a lot of resistance, but why he isn't giving up. Here are some of the cool things in this episode:

  • Why even though Russell's boys have not really enjoyed wrestling so far, it's important to push forward anyway.
  • Why anything new that you try to do brings resistance, but if it's important you need to continue to move forward.
  • And how getting his boys to do wrestling is similar to starting something new with your business. You need to be passionate about it if it's going to work.

So listen here to find out why you should continue to push forward in the new things you try, despite the initial resistance you will get.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/breaking-through-the-initial-opposition-and-resistance-when-you-start-a-new-thing

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]]> 482 no Drive Your Kids To School... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/drive-your-kids-to-school Something special I learned this week when I stopped doing my morning routine. On today's episode Russell talks about changing up his morning routine by driving his kids to school and why it has been so great. Here are some of the amazing things Russell talks about in this episode. What caused Russell to stop and notice that he was missing out on something really special with his kids. What kind of a difference he feels in his life since he began driving his kids to school each day. And why it's so important to stop and look around you and notice the relationships that you may have been neglecting. So listen here to find out why Russell is going to continue to drive his kids to school, and why you should stop and pay attention to your own loved ones, because you never know what you're missing out on. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/drive-your-kids-to-school Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 05 Feb 2018 23:38:27 -0000 Drive Your Kids To School... full 77 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Something special I learned this week when I stopped doing my morning routine. Something special I learned this week when I stopped doing my morning routine. On today's episode Russell talks about changing up his morning routine by driving his kids to school and why it has been so great. Here are some of the amazing things Russell talks about in this episode. What caused Russell to stop and notice that he was missing out on something really special with his kids. What kind of a difference he feels in his life since he began driving his kids to school each day. And why it's so important to stop and look around you and notice the relationships that you may have been neglecting. So listen here to find out why Russell is going to continue to drive his kids to school, and why you should stop and pay attention to your own loved ones, because you never know what you're missing out on. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/drive-your-kids-to-school Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Something special I learned this week when I stopped doing my morning routine.

On today's episode Russell talks about changing up his morning routine by driving his kids to school and why it has been so great. Here are some of the amazing things Russell talks about in this episode.

  • What caused Russell to stop and notice that he was missing out on something really special with his kids.
  • What kind of a difference he feels in his life since he began driving his kids to school each day.
  • And why it's so important to stop and look around you and notice the relationships that you may have been neglecting.

So listen here to find out why Russell is going to continue to drive his kids to school, and why you should stop and pay attention to your own loved ones, because you never know what you're missing out on.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/drive-your-kids-to-school

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]]> 473 no How To Replace Yourself The Right Way https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-replace-yourself-the-right-way What I've learned during the systemization process inside of Clickfunnels over the last few months. In this episode Russell explains how to replace your own level 6 skill sets with people who have level 10 skills in one thing. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why having the ability to take his daughter to the Little Gym helped Russell reflect on why it's awesome to be an entrepreneur. Why entrepreneurs need to figure out how to do everything to get their businesses off the ground. And why it's a good idea to replace yourself with people who do better work, once you've made a million dollars. So listen here to find out how you can find a lot more people who are better than you to run your business for you. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-replace-yourself-the-right-way Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 02 Feb 2018 23:56:09 -0000 How To Replace Yourself The Right Way full 76 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What I’ve learned during the systemization process inside of Clickfunnels over the last few months. What I've learned during the systemization process inside of Clickfunnels over the last few months. In this episode Russell explains how to replace your own level 6 skill sets with people who have level 10 skills in one thing. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why having the ability to take his daughter to the Little Gym helped Russell reflect on why it's awesome to be an entrepreneur. Why entrepreneurs need to figure out how to do everything to get their businesses off the ground. And why it's a good idea to replace yourself with people who do better work, once you've made a million dollars. So listen here to find out how you can find a lot more people who are better than you to run your business for you. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-replace-yourself-the-right-way Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What I've learned during the systemization process inside of Clickfunnels over the last few months.

In this episode Russell explains how to replace your own level 6 skill sets with people who have level 10 skills in one thing. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why having the ability to take his daughter to the Little Gym helped Russell reflect on why it's awesome to be an entrepreneur.
  • Why entrepreneurs need to figure out how to do everything to get their businesses off the ground.
  • And why it's a good idea to replace yourself with people who do better work, once you've made a million dollars.

So listen here to find out how you can find a lot more people who are better than you to run your business for you.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-replace-yourself-the-right-way

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]]> 601 no Throwing Rocks At The Red Ocean https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/throwing-rocks-at-the-red-ocean A cool new way to look at developing your new opportunity. On today's episode Russell talks about how he was able to look at his own principles through a different lens after he heard Steven teach them at the FHAT event. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out how Steven helped Russell see the market, submarket, and niche concept differently. Find out the difference between a red ocean market and a blue ocean market. And hear Russell discuss in detail what it means to throw rocks at the red ocean. So listen here to find out how to still be a part of the red, bloody ocean, while creating your own blue ocean. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/throwing-rocks-at-the-red-ocean Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 30 Jan 2018 23:36:51 -0000 Throwing Rocks At The Red Ocean full 75 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A cool new way to look at developing your new opportunity. A cool new way to look at developing your new opportunity. On today's episode Russell talks about how he was able to look at his own principles through a different lens after he heard Steven teach them at the FHAT event. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out how Steven helped Russell see the market, submarket, and niche concept differently. Find out the difference between a red ocean market and a blue ocean market. And hear Russell discuss in detail what it means to throw rocks at the red ocean. So listen here to find out how to still be a part of the red, bloody ocean, while creating your own blue ocean. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/throwing-rocks-at-the-red-ocean Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A cool new way to look at developing your new opportunity.

On today's episode Russell talks about how he was able to look at his own principles through a different lens after he heard Steven teach them at the FHAT event. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out how Steven helped Russell see the market, submarket, and niche concept differently.
  • Find out the difference between a red ocean market and a blue ocean market.
  • And hear Russell discuss in detail what it means to throw rocks at the red ocean.

So listen here to find out how to still be a part of the red, bloody ocean, while creating your own blue ocean.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/throwing-rocks-at-the-red-ocean

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]]> 651 no The Weird Part Of Success You Probably Weren't Planning On https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-weird-part-of-success-you-probably-werent-planning-on Something crazy happens to the people around you when you start having success. On this episode Russell talks about one of the big downsides to success that may catch you off guard. Here are some of the interesting things to listen for in today's episode: Why the saying "Misery loves company" is true when it comes finding success. Why you need to prepare now for when you have success, because people relate to you more when you fail. And why you should be excited for other people when they achieve any kind of success. So listen here to find out how to attract successful people in your life, and why you shouldn't be surprised when people aren't happy for your success. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-weird-part-of-success-you-probably-weren-t-planning-on Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 29 Jan 2018 23:22:05 -0000 The Weird Part Of Success You Probably Weren't Planning On full 74 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Something crazy happens to the people around you when you start having success. Something crazy happens to the people around you when you start having success. On this episode Russell talks about one of the big downsides to success that may catch you off guard. Here are some of the interesting things to listen for in today's episode: Why the saying "Misery loves company" is true when it comes finding success. Why you need to prepare now for when you have success, because people relate to you more when you fail. And why you should be excited for other people when they achieve any kind of success. So listen here to find out how to attract successful people in your life, and why you shouldn't be surprised when people aren't happy for your success. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-weird-part-of-success-you-probably-weren-t-planning-on Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Something crazy happens to the people around you when you start having success.

On this episode Russell talks about one of the big downsides to success that may catch you off guard. Here are some of the interesting things to listen for in today's episode:

  • Why the saying "Misery loves company" is true when it comes finding success.
  • Why you need to prepare now for when you have success, because people relate to you more when you fail.
  • And why you should be excited for other people when they achieve any kind of success.

So listen here to find out how to attract successful people in your life, and why you shouldn't be surprised when people aren't happy for your success.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-weird-part-of-success-you-probably-weren-t-planning-on

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]]> 640 no All I Ever Wanted Was To Be A Millionaire… And Then… https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/all-i-ever-wanted-was-to-be-a-millionaire-and-then Powerful message from Ryan Moran that I needed to hear today. On today's episode Russell plays an inspiring video from Brian Moran which calls on the viewer to be grateful for what they have in the moment instead of in hind sight. Here are some of the inspirational things you will hear in this video. Find out what happened to make Russell's evening a difficult one. Why Brian Moran's video was just what he needed to remember to be grateful. And why it's in our nature to look for problems instead of being happy, and how we can change that for ourselves. So listen here to find out why it's important to appreciate the life you have now, instead of waiting until later. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/all-i-ever-wanted-was-to-be-a-millionaire-and-then Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 23 Jan 2018 23:17:00 -0000 All I Ever Wanted Was To Be A Millionaire… And Then… full 73 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Powerful message from Ryan Moran that I needed to hear today. Powerful message from Ryan Moran that I needed to hear today. On today's episode Russell plays an inspiring video from Brian Moran which calls on the viewer to be grateful for what they have in the moment instead of in hind sight. Here are some of the inspirational things you will hear in this video. Find out what happened to make Russell's evening a difficult one. Why Brian Moran's video was just what he needed to remember to be grateful. And why it's in our nature to look for problems instead of being happy, and how we can change that for ourselves. So listen here to find out why it's important to appreciate the life you have now, instead of waiting until later. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/all-i-ever-wanted-was-to-be-a-millionaire-and-then Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Powerful message from Ryan Moran that I needed to hear today.

On today's episode Russell plays an inspiring video from Brian Moran which calls on the viewer to be grateful for what they have in the moment instead of in hind sight. Here are some of the inspirational things you will hear in this video.

  • Find out what happened to make Russell's evening a difficult one.
  • Why Brian Moran's video was just what he needed to remember to be grateful.
  • And why it's in our nature to look for problems instead of being happy, and how we can change that for ourselves.

So listen here to find out why it's important to appreciate the life you have now, instead of waiting until later.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/all-i-ever-wanted-was-to-be-a-millionaire-and-then

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]]> 572 no Keep Publishing, Even When No One’s Listening https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/keep-publishing-even-when-no-ones-listening Two presentations that I gave, where I thought that no one was listening, that literally changed a few people's world. On today's episode Russell talks about being able to make a difference even when he thought something seemed like a waste of time. Here are some awesome things to listen for on this episode: Why Alex Hormozi heard Russell's message, but didn't do anything about if for a year. How well Alex has been able to do with his business despite having tiny goals. And why speaking to only 15 people at Affiliate Summit actually turned out to be a good thing. So listen here to find out why it's important to keep putting your message out there, even if you think no one is listening. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/keep-publishing-even-when-no-one-s-listening Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 Jan 2018 23:23:07 -0000 Keep Publishing, Even When No One’s Listening full 72 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Two presentations that I gave, where I thought that no one was listening, that literally changed a few people’s world. Two presentations that I gave, where I thought that no one was listening, that literally changed a few people's world. On today's episode Russell talks about being able to make a difference even when he thought something seemed like a waste of time. Here are some awesome things to listen for on this episode: Why Alex Hormozi heard Russell's message, but didn't do anything about if for a year. How well Alex has been able to do with his business despite having tiny goals. And why speaking to only 15 people at Affiliate Summit actually turned out to be a good thing. So listen here to find out why it's important to keep putting your message out there, even if you think no one is listening. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/keep-publishing-even-when-no-one-s-listening Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Two presentations that I gave, where I thought that no one was listening, that literally changed a few people's world.

On today's episode Russell talks about being able to make a difference even when he thought something seemed like a waste of time. Here are some awesome things to listen for on this episode:

  • Why Alex Hormozi heard Russell's message, but didn't do anything about if for a year.
  • How well Alex has been able to do with his business despite having tiny goals.
  • And why speaking to only 15 people at Affiliate Summit actually turned out to be a good thing.

So listen here to find out why it's important to keep putting your message out there, even if you think no one is listening.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/keep-publishing-even-when-no-one-s-listening

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]]> 732 no The 3 Second Shock That Allows You To Deliver Your Message https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-3-second-shock-that-allows-you-to-deliver-your-message Behind the scenes of some cool things that we're doing to get people to stop and actually watch our ads. On this episode Russell talks about a new ad technique where you try to get someone's attention within three seconds. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on today's episode: Find out what kind of ads Russell is experimenting with to grab people's attention quickly. Discover why you need to be quicker in grabbing people's attention in these days than they did in the 80's. And find out how Russell's jeep became high centered and why he lit a copy of Expert Secrets on fire! So listen here to see why Russell blew up his Gold Prospector with a potato gun and lit his book on fire. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-3-second-shock-that-allows-you-to-deliver-your-message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 18 Jan 2018 22:24:34 -0000 The 3 Second Shock That Allows You To Deliver Your Message full 71 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes of some cool things that we’re doing to get people to stop and actually watch our ads. Behind the scenes of some cool things that we're doing to get people to stop and actually watch our ads. On this episode Russell talks about a new ad technique where you try to get someone's attention within three seconds. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on today's episode: Find out what kind of ads Russell is experimenting with to grab people's attention quickly. Discover why you need to be quicker in grabbing people's attention in these days than they did in the 80's. And find out how Russell's jeep became high centered and why he lit a copy of Expert Secrets on fire! So listen here to see why Russell blew up his Gold Prospector with a potato gun and lit his book on fire. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-3-second-shock-that-allows-you-to-deliver-your-message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes of some cool things that we're doing to get people to stop and actually watch our ads.

On this episode Russell talks about a new ad technique where you try to get someone's attention within three seconds. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on today's episode:

  • Find out what kind of ads Russell is experimenting with to grab people's attention quickly.
  • Discover why you need to be quicker in grabbing people's attention in these days than they did in the 80's.
  • And find out how Russell's jeep became high centered and why he lit a copy of Expert Secrets on fire!

So listen here to see why Russell blew up his Gold Prospector with a potato gun and lit his book on fire.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-3-second-shock-that-allows-you-to-deliver-your-message

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]]> 592 no The Hand That You Don't See, That's Guiding You On Your Journey https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-hand-that-you-dont-see-thats-guiding-you-on-your-journey This is not your traditional marketing episode, but hopefully it helps you to understand your role in the plan. On this podcast Preacher Russell talks about the journey that leads you to where God (or whatever you believe in) wants you to be. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode: Find out why Russell feels that the struggles from his past have made it possible for his present. Hear why Russell believes his journey is so important for what God ultimately has in store for him. And find out why when he looks back on the most difficult and painful time in his life, he is grateful for the journey. Listen below to see why your journey is so important for where you end up. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-hand-that-you-don-t-see-that-s-guiding-you-on-your-journey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 18 Jan 2018 00:46:03 -0000 The Hand That You Don't See, That's Guiding You On Your Journey full 70 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is not your traditional marketing episode, but hopefully it helps you to understand your role in the plan. This is not your traditional marketing episode, but hopefully it helps you to understand your role in the plan. On this podcast Preacher Russell talks about the journey that leads you to where God (or whatever you believe in) wants you to be. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode: Find out why Russell feels that the struggles from his past have made it possible for his present. Hear why Russell believes his journey is so important for what God ultimately has in store for him. And find out why when he looks back on the most difficult and painful time in his life, he is grateful for the journey. Listen below to see why your journey is so important for where you end up. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-hand-that-you-don-t-see-that-s-guiding-you-on-your-journey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is not your traditional marketing episode, but hopefully it helps you to understand your role in the plan.

On this podcast Preacher Russell talks about the journey that leads you to where God (or whatever you believe in) wants you to be. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell feels that the struggles from his past have made it possible for his present.
  • Hear why Russell believes his journey is so important for what God ultimately has in store for him.
  • And find out why when he looks back on the most difficult and painful time in his life, he is grateful for the journey.

Listen below to see why your journey is so important for where you end up.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-hand-that-you-don-t-see-that-s-guiding-you-on-your-journey

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]]> 1042 no How To Find Your "BIG IDEA" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-find-your-big-idea Some thoughts I had after staring at a blinking cursor for three hours. On today's episode Russell talks about how to find your big idea or hook. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Why it's hard for Russell to teach how to find the big idea. Why you need to find the opposite of a pattern in order to find your big hook. And why you should buy your Funnel Hacking Live tickets now if you haven't already. So listen here to find out how you can figure out your next big idea. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-find-your-big-idea Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 16 Jan 2018 23:37:00 -0000 How To Find Your "BIG IDEA" full 69 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Some thoughts I had after staring at a blinking cursor for three hours. Some thoughts I had after staring at a blinking cursor for three hours. On today's episode Russell talks about how to find your big idea or hook. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode: Why it's hard for Russell to teach how to find the big idea. Why you need to find the opposite of a pattern in order to find your big hook. And why you should buy your Funnel Hacking Live tickets now if you haven't already. So listen here to find out how you can figure out your next big idea. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-find-your-big-idea Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Some thoughts I had after staring at a blinking cursor for three hours.

On today's episode Russell talks about how to find your big idea or hook. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:

  • Why it's hard for Russell to teach how to find the big idea.
  • Why you need to find the opposite of a pattern in order to find your big hook.
  • And why you should buy your Funnel Hacking Live tickets now if you haven't already.

So listen here to find out how you can figure out your next big idea.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-find-your-big-idea

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]]> 780 no Returning And Reporting Back On Week One Of Our New Agency https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/returning-and-reporting-back-on-week-one-of-our-new-agency A quick recap of what we learned rolling out our first funnel inside our new mini agency. On this episode Russell talks about how the first week went with his new advertising agency that is dedicated to only Clickfunnels. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in today's episode: How changing the Expert Secrets book funnel was able to bring the average cart value up by $8 How Russell's team was able to virtually be in the same room to communicate, even though everyone on the team is remote instead of being located in Boise. And find out what the next step is in the funnel. So listen here to find out how the first week went for Russell's new Clickfunnels-dedicated advertising agency. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/returning-and-reporting-back-on-week-one-of-our-new-agency Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:58:09 -0000 Returning And Reporting Back On Week One Of Our New Agency full 68 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A quick recap of what we learned rolling out our first funnel inside our new mini agency. A quick recap of what we learned rolling out our first funnel inside our new mini agency. On this episode Russell talks about how the first week went with his new advertising agency that is dedicated to only Clickfunnels. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in today's episode: How changing the Expert Secrets book funnel was able to bring the average cart value up by $8 How Russell's team was able to virtually be in the same room to communicate, even though everyone on the team is remote instead of being located in Boise. And find out what the next step is in the funnel. So listen here to find out how the first week went for Russell's new Clickfunnels-dedicated advertising agency. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/returning-and-reporting-back-on-week-one-of-our-new-agency Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A quick recap of what we learned rolling out our first funnel inside our new mini agency.

On this episode Russell talks about how the first week went with his new advertising agency that is dedicated to only Clickfunnels. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in today's episode:

  • How changing the Expert Secrets book funnel was able to bring the average cart value up by $8
  • How Russell's team was able to virtually be in the same room to communicate, even though everyone on the team is remote instead of being located in Boise.
  • And find out what the next step is in the funnel.

So listen here to find out how the first week went for Russell's new Clickfunnels-dedicated advertising agency.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/returning-and-reporting-back-on-week-one-of-our-new-agency

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]]> 519 no How Front End Funnels Affect Churn On Your Back End Funnels https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-front-end-funnels-affect-churn-on-your-back-end-funnels During the simplification of our value ladder, we discovered some really cool stuff. On this episode Russell talks about how his company has spent the last few weeks focusing on the value ladder and what they changed. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out what some of the analytics and churn rate are for some of Russell's current front end offers. Find out where you should start on the value ladder if you are a beginner. And Find out why you need to go to Funnel Hacking Live to get the real scoop on all of this stuff. So listen here to find out how your front end funnels can affect churn on the back end. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-front-end-funnels-affect-churn-on-your-back-end-funnels Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 09 Jan 2018 23:26:42 -0000 How Front End Funnels Affect Churn On Your Back End Funnels full 67 Russell Brunson | YAP Media During the simplification of our value ladder, we discovered some really cool stuff. During the simplification of our value ladder, we discovered some really cool stuff. On this episode Russell talks about how his company has spent the last few weeks focusing on the value ladder and what they changed. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out what some of the analytics and churn rate are for some of Russell's current front end offers. Find out where you should start on the value ladder if you are a beginner. And Find out why you need to go to Funnel Hacking Live to get the real scoop on all of this stuff. So listen here to find out how your front end funnels can affect churn on the back end. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-front-end-funnels-affect-churn-on-your-back-end-funnels Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices During the simplification of our value ladder, we discovered some really cool stuff.

On this episode Russell talks about how his company has spent the last few weeks focusing on the value ladder and what they changed. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out what some of the analytics and churn rate are for some of Russell's current front end offers.
  • Find out where you should start on the value ladder if you are a beginner.
  • And Find out why you need to go to Funnel Hacking Live to get the real scoop on all of this stuff.

So listen here to find out how your front end funnels can affect churn on the back end.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-front-end-funnels-affect-churn-on-your-back-end-funnels

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]]> 606 no With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/with-great-power-comes-great-responsibility Don't forget your responsibility to your customers, it should keep you up at night... On today's episode Russell talks about the responsibility you have to your customers to make sure that what you are selling them is high quality. Here are a few insightful things in this episode: Why thinking about your customers should keep you up at night. And why it's so important to make sure what you are selling is high quality. Listen here to find out why with great power comes great responsibility. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/with-great-power-comes-great-responsibility Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 08 Jan 2018 22:52:55 -0000 With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility full 66 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Don’t forget your responsibility to your customers, it should keep you up at night… Don't forget your responsibility to your customers, it should keep you up at night... On today's episode Russell talks about the responsibility you have to your customers to make sure that what you are selling them is high quality. Here are a few insightful things in this episode: Why thinking about your customers should keep you up at night. And why it's so important to make sure what you are selling is high quality. Listen here to find out why with great power comes great responsibility. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/with-great-power-comes-great-responsibility Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Don't forget your responsibility to your customers, it should keep you up at night...

On today's episode Russell talks about the responsibility you have to your customers to make sure that what you are selling them is high quality. Here are a few insightful things in this episode:

  • Why thinking about your customers should keep you up at night.
  • And why it's so important to make sure what you are selling is high quality.

Listen here to find out why with great power comes great responsibility.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/with-great-power-comes-great-responsibility

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]]> 373 no Is A Funnel Even Right For My Business? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/is-a-funnel-even-right-for-my-business Here are five things to do to make sure that a funnel will even work for what it is you're trying to sell. On this episode Russell talks about putting the right people on your team to be able to best market your product or service. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why you should have your entire team take the disc profile test to find out where they best fit in. And Why it's important to have the right people in the right positions for your business. So listen here to find out why it's so important to use the disc profile system to put team members in the right position for your business to grow and be successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/is-a-funnel-even-right-for-my-business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 05 Jan 2018 00:36:36 -0000 Is A Funnel Even Right For My Business? full 65 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here are five things to do to make sure that a funnel will even work for what it is you’re trying to sell. Here are five things to do to make sure that a funnel will even work for what it is you're trying to sell. On this episode Russell talks about putting the right people on your team to be able to best market your product or service. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why you should have your entire team take the disc profile test to find out where they best fit in. And Why it's important to have the right people in the right positions for your business. So listen here to find out why it's so important to use the disc profile system to put team members in the right position for your business to grow and be successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/is-a-funnel-even-right-for-my-business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here are five things to do to make sure that a funnel will even work for what it is you're trying to sell.

On this episode Russell talks about putting the right people on your team to be able to best market your product or service. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why you should have your entire team take the disc profile test to find out where they best fit in.
  • And Why it's important to have the right people in the right positions for your business.

So listen here to find out why it's so important to use the disc profile system to put team members in the right position for your business to grow and be successful.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/is-a-funnel-even-right-for-my-business

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]]> 856 no How To Fortify Against Your Weaknesses AND An Exciting Announcement! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-fortify-against-your-weaknesses-and-an-exciting-announcement As you grow, your weaknesses will start to show, here is how to strengthen those holes as they are exposed. On today's episode Russell talks about setting a goal last year to pay off his house, and why it was so important to him. He also talks about fortifying his business to make sure it can't be destroyed by something stupid. Here are some of the cool things to look for in this episode: Find out why paying off his house was such a big goal for Russell for years. Hear some of the things that have kept him from reaching that goal in the past. And find out why it is so important to find the holes in your business and strengthen the weaknesses to protect yourself from those looking to destroy you. So listen here to see how you can bump up your security at home and at your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-fortify-against-your-weaknesses-and-an-exciting-announcement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 04 Jan 2018 00:12:32 -0000 How To Fortify Against Your Weaknesses AND An Exciting Announcement! full 64 Russell Brunson | YAP Media As you grow, your weaknesses will start to show, here is how to strengthen those holes as they are exposed. As you grow, your weaknesses will start to show, here is how to strengthen those holes as they are exposed. On today's episode Russell talks about setting a goal last year to pay off his house, and why it was so important to him. He also talks about fortifying his business to make sure it can't be destroyed by something stupid. Here are some of the cool things to look for in this episode: Find out why paying off his house was such a big goal for Russell for years. Hear some of the things that have kept him from reaching that goal in the past. And find out why it is so important to find the holes in your business and strengthen the weaknesses to protect yourself from those looking to destroy you. So listen here to see how you can bump up your security at home and at your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-fortify-against-your-weaknesses-and-an-exciting-announcement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices As you grow, your weaknesses will start to show, here is how to strengthen those holes as they are exposed.

On today's episode Russell talks about setting a goal last year to pay off his house, and why it was so important to him. He also talks about fortifying his business to make sure it can't be destroyed by something stupid. Here are some of the cool things to look for in this episode:

  • Find out why paying off his house was such a big goal for Russell for years.
  • Hear some of the things that have kept him from reaching that goal in the past.
  • And find out why it is so important to find the holes in your business and strengthen the weaknesses to protect yourself from those looking to destroy you.

So listen here to see how you can bump up your security at home and at your business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-fortify-against-your-weaknesses-and-an-exciting-announcement

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]]> 624 no Batman's Approach To Project Management https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/batmans-approach-to-project-management Step 1 starts with the bat-signal calling everybody to the bat-cave... On today's episode Russell talks about how he is using Trello and a bat signal to make all of his amazing ideas come to fruition. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode. Find out how Russell is using a bat signal to get his ideas out to his team. See how Trello is going to help keep Russell's ideas organized so that every member does their part. And find out how you can make a similar system work for your own team. So listen here to be let in on this awesome new system for getting Russell's ideas out of his head and turned into funnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/batman-s-approach-to-project-management Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:11:00 -0000 Batman's Approach To Project Management full 63 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Step 1 starts with the bat-signal calling everybody to the bat-cave… Step 1 starts with the bat-signal calling everybody to the bat-cave... On today's episode Russell talks about how he is using Trello and a bat signal to make all of his amazing ideas come to fruition. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode. Find out how Russell is using a bat signal to get his ideas out to his team. See how Trello is going to help keep Russell's ideas organized so that every member does their part. And find out how you can make a similar system work for your own team. So listen here to be let in on this awesome new system for getting Russell's ideas out of his head and turned into funnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/batman-s-approach-to-project-management Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Step 1 starts with the bat-signal calling everybody to the bat-cave...

On today's episode Russell talks about how he is using Trello and a bat signal to make all of his amazing ideas come to fruition. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode.

  • Find out how Russell is using a bat signal to get his ideas out to his team.
  • See how Trello is going to help keep Russell's ideas organized so that every member does their part.
  • And find out how you can make a similar system work for your own team.

So listen here to be let in on this awesome new system for getting Russell's ideas out of his head and turned into funnels.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/batman-s-approach-to-project-management

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]]> 589 no How 'Tickle Me Elmo' Manipulated Supply To Increase Demand (And How You Can Too!) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-tickle-me-elmo-manipulated-supply-to-increase-demand-and-how-you-can-too Late night coaching session with my son Dallin... On today's episode Russell teaches his son Dallin, and the listeners all about the concept of supply and demand. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode: Why Russell decided to teach Dallin about supply and demand after he saw a pair of Airpods on Amazon for $850. Why supply and demand of Tickle Me Elmo dolls several years ago caused some parents to take back their own kids Christmas gifts.- And how you can use supply and demand to boost sales for info products or supplements or anything else. So listen here to find out how to use supply and demand to make more sales and more money. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-tickle-me-elmo-manipulated-supply-to-increase-demand-and-how-you-can-too Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 22 Dec 2017 00:21:00 -0000 How 'Tickle Me Elmo' Manipulated Supply To Increase Demand (And How You Can Too!) full 62 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Late night coaching session with my son Dallin… Late night coaching session with my son Dallin... On today's episode Russell teaches his son Dallin, and the listeners all about the concept of supply and demand. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode: Why Russell decided to teach Dallin about supply and demand after he saw a pair of Airpods on Amazon for $850. Why supply and demand of Tickle Me Elmo dolls several years ago caused some parents to take back their own kids Christmas gifts.- And how you can use supply and demand to boost sales for info products or supplements or anything else. So listen here to find out how to use supply and demand to make more sales and more money. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-tickle-me-elmo-manipulated-supply-to-increase-demand-and-how-you-can-too Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Late night coaching session with my son Dallin...

On today's episode Russell teaches his son Dallin, and the listeners all about the concept of supply and demand. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why Russell decided to teach Dallin about supply and demand after he saw a pair of Airpods on Amazon for $850.
  • Why supply and demand of Tickle Me Elmo dolls several years ago caused some parents to take back their own kids Christmas gifts.-
  • And how you can use supply and demand to boost sales for info products or supplements or anything else.

So listen here to find out how to use supply and demand to make more sales and more money.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-tickle-me-elmo-manipulated-supply-to-increase-demand-and-how-you-can-too

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]]> 473 no RANT: Take What You Earned, Nothing More https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/rant-take-what-you-earned-nothing-more A few cool stories that will hopefully re-align what you define as what you actually earn. On today's episode Russell talks about doing what you said you were going to do instead of trying to lie, cheat, and trick your way into money. Here are some of the other insightful things Russell talks about in this episode: Why Russell gave back 8 figures to Pruvit, even though he had signed a contract to have equity in the company. And why it's important to only take the things you have actually earned. So listen here to find out why integrity is more important than money. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/rant-take-what-you-earned-nothing-more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Dec 2017 23:58:41 -0000 RANT: Take What You Earned, Nothing More bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media A few cool stories that will hopefully re-align what you define as what you actually earn. A few cool stories that will hopefully re-align what you define as what you actually earn. On today's episode Russell talks about doing what you said you were going to do instead of trying to lie, cheat, and trick your way into money. Here are some of the other insightful things Russell talks about in this episode: Why Russell gave back 8 figures to Pruvit, even though he had signed a contract to have equity in the company. And why it's important to only take the things you have actually earned. So listen here to find out why integrity is more important than money. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/rant-take-what-you-earned-nothing-more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A few cool stories that will hopefully re-align what you define as what you actually earn.

On today's episode Russell talks about doing what you said you were going to do instead of trying to lie, cheat, and trick your way into money. Here are some of the other insightful things Russell talks about in this episode:

  • Why Russell gave back 8 figures to Pruvit, even though he had signed a contract to have equity in the company.
  • And why it's important to only take the things you have actually earned.

So listen here to find out why integrity is more important than money.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/rant-take-what-you-earned-nothing-more

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]]> 799 no How To Dominate At Everything You Do https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-dominate-at-everything-you-do Some awesome advice from Bart Miller as we were doing our late night walk. On this episode Russell talks with Bart Miller from his inner circle about immersing himself in the things he does instead of dabbling. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in today's episode: Find out how Bart made a commitment to get in shape and ended up winning awards for body building in under a year. Hear why both Bart and Russell have been able to really commit to things instead of dabbling. And find out how you could possibly see Russell standing on stage at Funnel Hacking Live in a Speedo! So listen here to see why it's so important to be an extremist when you set a goal to do something. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-dominate-at-everything-you-do Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 14 Dec 2017 21:27:35 -0000 How To Dominate At Everything You Do full 61 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Some awesome advice from Bart Miller as we were doing our late night walk. Some awesome advice from Bart Miller as we were doing our late night walk. On this episode Russell talks with Bart Miller from his inner circle about immersing himself in the things he does instead of dabbling. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in today's episode: Find out how Bart made a commitment to get in shape and ended up winning awards for body building in under a year. Hear why both Bart and Russell have been able to really commit to things instead of dabbling. And find out how you could possibly see Russell standing on stage at Funnel Hacking Live in a Speedo! So listen here to see why it's so important to be an extremist when you set a goal to do something. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-dominate-at-everything-you-do Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Some awesome advice from Bart Miller as we were doing our late night walk.

On this episode Russell talks with Bart Miller from his inner circle about immersing himself in the things he does instead of dabbling. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in today's episode:

  • Find out how Bart made a commitment to get in shape and ended up winning awards for body building in under a year.
  • Hear why both Bart and Russell have been able to really commit to things instead of dabbling.
  • And find out how you could possibly see Russell standing on stage at Funnel Hacking Live in a Speedo!

So listen here to see why it's so important to be an extremist when you set a goal to do something.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-dominate-at-everything-you-do

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]]> 595 no What We Learned From Our First $100,000,000 In Sales... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-we-learned-from-our-first-100000000-in-sales Be a fly on the wall during the ClickFunnels partner meeting and hear the #1 thing each of us learned on our journey so far. On this episode we get to hear from the entire Clickfunnels partnership team. They all share the big takeaways they have received as they have watched the company soar to over a hundred million dollars a year in revenue. Here are some of the cool things you will hear. How Russell learned that having a great partnership and team was better than being on his own. Why Todd thinks it's important to have someone who is obsessed with the product you're selling. Why Dave thinks the Dream 100 is so important. How John prioritizes and delegates to make sure everything is done by the appropriate people. Why Brent thinks it's important to stay small and nimble as long as possible and why you shouldn't sweat the small stuff. And why Ryan believes that constraints are not a limiting factor, but what helps you focus and succeed. So listen here to find out what the Clickfunnels partnership team members have learned that have lead the company to surpass their goal of a hundred million dollars in revenue a year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-we-learned-from-our-first-100-000-000-in-sales Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 07 Dec 2017 00:42:13 -0000 What We Learned From Our First $100,000,000 In Sales... full 60 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Be a fly on the wall during the ClickFunnels partner meeting and hear the #1 thing each of us learned on our journey so far. Be a fly on the wall during the ClickFunnels partner meeting and hear the #1 thing each of us learned on our journey so far. On this episode we get to hear from the entire Clickfunnels partnership team. They all share the big takeaways they have received as they have watched the company soar to over a hundred million dollars a year in revenue. Here are some of the cool things you will hear. How Russell learned that having a great partnership and team was better than being on his own. Why Todd thinks it's important to have someone who is obsessed with the product you're selling. Why Dave thinks the Dream 100 is so important. How John prioritizes and delegates to make sure everything is done by the appropriate people. Why Brent thinks it's important to stay small and nimble as long as possible and why you shouldn't sweat the small stuff. And why Ryan believes that constraints are not a limiting factor, but what helps you focus and succeed. So listen here to find out what the Clickfunnels partnership team members have learned that have lead the company to surpass their goal of a hundred million dollars in revenue a year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-we-learned-from-our-first-100-000-000-in-sales Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Be a fly on the wall during the ClickFunnels partner meeting and hear the #1 thing each of us learned on our journey so far.

On this episode we get to hear from the entire Clickfunnels partnership team. They all share the big takeaways they have received as they have watched the company soar to over a hundred million dollars a year in revenue. Here are some of the cool things you will hear.

  • How Russell learned that having a great partnership and team was better than being on his own.
  • Why Todd thinks it's important to have someone who is obsessed with the product you're selling.
  • Why Dave thinks the Dream 100 is so important.
  • How John prioritizes and delegates to make sure everything is done by the appropriate people.
  • Why Brent thinks it's important to stay small and nimble as long as possible and why you shouldn't sweat the small stuff.
  • And why Ryan believes that constraints are not a limiting factor, but what helps you focus and succeed.

So listen here to find out what the Clickfunnels partnership team members have learned that have lead the company to surpass their goal of a hundred million dollars in revenue a year.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-we-learned-from-our-first-100-000-000-in-sales

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]]> 1013 no Being An Introvert Inside Of An Extrovert's Calling https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/being-an-introvert-inside-of-an-extroverts-calling Interesting thoughts after my whirlwind week. On this episode Russell talks about what it's like being an introvert in an extrovert's business. He shares how you can still be successful while being introverted, just like him. Here are some interesting things in this episode: Find out why Russell loves speaking in front of thousands of people, but can still be awkward one on one. See how Russell is able to get past his introverted tenancies to still be able to sell a room. And find out why you just need to start sharing your message and with consistency you will find your voice. So listen here to find out how an introvert is making it in this extroverted business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/being-an-introvert-inside-of-an-extrovert-s-calling Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 04 Dec 2017 21:54:41 -0000 Being An Introvert Inside Of An Extrovert's Calling full 59 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Interesting thoughts after my whirlwind week. Interesting thoughts after my whirlwind week. On this episode Russell talks about what it's like being an introvert in an extrovert's business. He shares how you can still be successful while being introverted, just like him. Here are some interesting things in this episode: Find out why Russell loves speaking in front of thousands of people, but can still be awkward one on one. See how Russell is able to get past his introverted tenancies to still be able to sell a room. And find out why you just need to start sharing your message and with consistency you will find your voice. So listen here to find out how an introvert is making it in this extroverted business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/being-an-introvert-inside-of-an-extrovert-s-calling Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Interesting thoughts after my whirlwind week.

On this episode Russell talks about what it's like being an introvert in an extrovert's business. He shares how you can still be successful while being introverted, just like him. Here are some interesting things in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell loves speaking in front of thousands of people, but can still be awkward one on one.
  • See how Russell is able to get past his introverted tenancies to still be able to sell a room.
  • And find out why you just need to start sharing your message and with consistency you will find your voice.

So listen here to find out how an introvert is making it in this extroverted business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/being-an-introvert-inside-of-an-extrovert-s-calling

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]]> 988 no End Of The Year Planning Meetings And Simplifying Your Value Ladder https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/end-of-the-year-planning-meetings-and-simplifying-your-value-ladder The two most important things your can do between now and the end of the year to double your business for next year. On today's episode talks about his upcoming meeting with his partners to plan next year, and goes on to explain why he's simplifying his value ladder and his life. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Why it's important to have a planning meeting with your partners to decide what you want to achieve for the next year. What kind of things Russell is doing to simplify his value ladder and why he's doing it. And why Russell is turning off two programs that each do well over a million dollars each year. So listen here to find out how you too can simplify your value ladder. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/end-of-the-year-planning-meetings-and-simplifying-your-value-ladder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:53:53 -0000 End Of The Year Planning Meetings And Simplifying Your Value Ladder full 58 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The two most important things your can do between now and the end of the year to double your business for next year. The two most important things your can do between now and the end of the year to double your business for next year. On today's episode talks about his upcoming meeting with his partners to plan next year, and goes on to explain why he's simplifying his value ladder and his life. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Why it's important to have a planning meeting with your partners to decide what you want to achieve for the next year. What kind of things Russell is doing to simplify his value ladder and why he's doing it. And why Russell is turning off two programs that each do well over a million dollars each year. So listen here to find out how you too can simplify your value ladder. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/end-of-the-year-planning-meetings-and-simplifying-your-value-ladder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The two most important things your can do between now and the end of the year to double your business for next year.

On today's episode talks about his upcoming meeting with his partners to plan next year, and goes on to explain why he's simplifying his value ladder and his life. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why it's important to have a planning meeting with your partners to decide what you want to achieve for the next year.
  • What kind of things Russell is doing to simplify his value ladder and why he's doing it.
  • And why Russell is turning off two programs that each do well over a million dollars each year.

So listen here to find out how you too can simplify your value ladder.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/end-of-the-year-planning-meetings-and-simplifying-your-value-ladder

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]]> 646 no The #1 Way To Get Thousands Of People To Join Your Membership Site In Less Than 15 Minutes https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-1-way-to-get-thousands-of-people-to-join-your-membership-site-in-less-than-15-minutes This is the marketing secret I'm dusting off from the archives of one of the greatest campaigns we ever ran. On this episode Russell talks about going old school with a technique he used to use that worked every single time. He gives all the information you need to be able to do it for your business. Here are some cool things on this episode: How Russell used to use this technique back in the day. How you can use it to build curiosity, which translates into people signing up for a membership site. And why Russell himself hasn't used this technique in a while, but why he's going to use it again very soon with Clickfunnels. So listen below to find out what awesome technique Russell used in the past with massive success, that he plans on using again. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-way-to-get-thousands-of-people-to-join-your-membership-site-in-less-than-15-minutes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 28 Nov 2017 22:41:11 -0000 The #1 Way To Get Thousands Of People To Join Your Membership Site In Less Than 15 Minutes full 57 Russell Brunson | YAP Media This is the marketing secret I’m dusting off from the archives of one of the greatest campaigns we ever ran. This is the marketing secret I'm dusting off from the archives of one of the greatest campaigns we ever ran. On this episode Russell talks about going old school with a technique he used to use that worked every single time. He gives all the information you need to be able to do it for your business. Here are some cool things on this episode: How Russell used to use this technique back in the day. How you can use it to build curiosity, which translates into people signing up for a membership site. And why Russell himself hasn't used this technique in a while, but why he's going to use it again very soon with Clickfunnels. So listen below to find out what awesome technique Russell used in the past with massive success, that he plans on using again. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-way-to-get-thousands-of-people-to-join-your-membership-site-in-less-than-15-minutes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is the marketing secret I'm dusting off from the archives of one of the greatest campaigns we ever ran.

On this episode Russell talks about going old school with a technique he used to use that worked every single time. He gives all the information you need to be able to do it for your business. Here are some cool things on this episode:

  • How Russell used to use this technique back in the day.
  • How you can use it to build curiosity, which translates into people signing up for a membership site.
  • And why Russell himself hasn't used this technique in a while, but why he's going to use it again very soon with Clickfunnels.

So listen below to find out what awesome technique Russell used in the past with massive success, that he plans on using again.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-way-to-get-thousands-of-people-to-join-your-membership-site-in-less-than-15-minutes

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]]> 541 no It's Not The Thing... It's The Marketing Of The Thing That Counts https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/its-not-the-thing-its-the-marketing-of-the-thing-that-counts A conversation I had today explains the reason why most businesses end up suffocating and dying. On today's episode Russell talks about something awesome he witnessed with his kids school. He goes on to talk about discussing marketing with another parent at school and why he considers it the lifeblood of a business. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode: Why marketing is the lifeblood of a company. How cutting back on marketing in a business is like putting pressure on the carotid artery in wrestling. And how to get a successful business by tripling down on your marketing. So listen here to find out why you need to become obsessed with the marketing of your product, rather than the product itself. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/it-s-not-the-thing-it-s-the-marketing-of-the-thing-that-counts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 27 Nov 2017 22:28:38 -0000 It's Not The Thing... It's The Marketing Of The Thing That Counts full 56 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A conversation I had today explains the reason why most businesses end up suffocating and dying. A conversation I had today explains the reason why most businesses end up suffocating and dying. On today's episode Russell talks about something awesome he witnessed with his kids school. He goes on to talk about discussing marketing with another parent at school and why he considers it the lifeblood of a business. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode: Why marketing is the lifeblood of a company. How cutting back on marketing in a business is like putting pressure on the carotid artery in wrestling. And how to get a successful business by tripling down on your marketing. So listen here to find out why you need to become obsessed with the marketing of your product, rather than the product itself. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/it-s-not-the-thing-it-s-the-marketing-of-the-thing-that-counts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A conversation I had today explains the reason why most businesses end up suffocating and dying.

On today's episode Russell talks about something awesome he witnessed with his kids school. He goes on to talk about discussing marketing with another parent at school and why he considers it the lifeblood of a business. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode:

  • Why marketing is the lifeblood of a company.
  • How cutting back on marketing in a business is like putting pressure on the carotid artery in wrestling.
  • And how to get a successful business by tripling down on your marketing.

So listen here to find out why you need to become obsessed with the marketing of your product, rather than the product itself.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/it-s-not-the-thing-it-s-the-marketing-of-the-thing-that-counts

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]]> 691 no Why I Don't Do Payment Plans https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-i-dont-do-payment-plans If you structure your value ladder right, you'll never have to do a payment plan. On this episode Russell answers a question posted on Facebook about why he doesn't do payment plans. Here are some of the awesome things he has to say in today's episode. The reason Russell doesn't have payment plans, and it's not only because he doesn't sell to broke people. Why being handed an already successful business that you didn't have to work for will usually cause it to fail. And how Russell justifies giving away stuff for free and what his philosophy about it is. So listen here to find out why Russell doesn't usually give an option for payment plans. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-i-don-t-do-payment-plans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Nov 2017 21:27:00 -0000 Why I Don't Do Payment Plans full 55 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you structure your value ladder right, you’ll never have to do a payment plan. If you structure your value ladder right, you'll never have to do a payment plan. On this episode Russell answers a question posted on Facebook about why he doesn't do payment plans. Here are some of the awesome things he has to say in today's episode. The reason Russell doesn't have payment plans, and it's not only because he doesn't sell to broke people. Why being handed an already successful business that you didn't have to work for will usually cause it to fail. And how Russell justifies giving away stuff for free and what his philosophy about it is. So listen here to find out why Russell doesn't usually give an option for payment plans. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-i-don-t-do-payment-plans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you structure your value ladder right, you'll never have to do a payment plan.

On this episode Russell answers a question posted on Facebook about why he doesn't do payment plans. Here are some of the awesome things he has to say in today's episode.

  • The reason Russell doesn't have payment plans, and it's not only because he doesn't sell to broke people.
  • Why being handed an already successful business that you didn't have to work for will usually cause it to fail.
  • And how Russell justifies giving away stuff for free and what his philosophy about it is.

So listen here to find out why Russell doesn't usually give an option for payment plans.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-i-don-t-do-payment-plans

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]]> 574 no The Bigger You Get, The Bigger Your Problems Get https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-bigger-you-get-the-bigger-your-problems-get A quick play-by-play of the last 24 hours of my crazy life. On this episode Russell talks about the last 24 hours of his life and the events that made it feel crazy. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell is being sued by a Clickfunnels customer. Hear about some other legal problems that Russell has been dealing with for quite some time. And find out why Russell and his family had to take trip to the ER. So listen here to see why Russell's last 24 hours have been such a stressful roller-coaster ride. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-bigger-you-get-the-bigger-your-problems-get Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:25:20 -0000 The Bigger You Get, The Bigger Your Problems Get full 54 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A quick play-by-play of the last 24 hours of my crazy life. A quick play-by-play of the last 24 hours of my crazy life. On this episode Russell talks about the last 24 hours of his life and the events that made it feel crazy. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell is being sued by a Clickfunnels customer. Hear about some other legal problems that Russell has been dealing with for quite some time. And find out why Russell and his family had to take trip to the ER. So listen here to see why Russell's last 24 hours have been such a stressful roller-coaster ride. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-bigger-you-get-the-bigger-your-problems-get Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A quick play-by-play of the last 24 hours of my crazy life.

On this episode Russell talks about the last 24 hours of his life and the events that made it feel crazy. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell is being sued by a Clickfunnels customer.
  • Hear about some other legal problems that Russell has been dealing with for quite some time.
  • And find out why Russell and his family had to take trip to the ER.

So listen here to see why Russell's last 24 hours have been such a stressful roller-coaster ride.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-bigger-you-get-the-bigger-your-problems-get

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]]> 1433 no Beware Of All Platforms... Except This One https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/beware-of-all-platforms-except-this-one A podcast from Russell and Todd in a private plane. On this special private plane episode Russell and Clickfunnels co-founder, Todd Dickerson, rant about troubles they've had with different platforms, most recently iTunes. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear on this episode: Find out why Russell is not longer getting subscribers for his podcast, and how all efforts to fix the problem have been fruitless. Hear Todd tell a story about a friend of his that basically lost his business when Amazon D-listed his product. Find out why YouTuber, PewdiePie pretty much lost everything after using an offensive term. And discover how we can learn from these examples to make sure we don't have all our eggs in one basket. So listen here to find out why it's important to have a back up plan when it comes to social media platforms, as well as merchant accounts. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/beware-of-all-platforms-except-this-one Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 07 Nov 2017 00:20:00 -0000 Beware Of All Platforms... Except This One full 53 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A podcast from Russell and Todd in a private plane. A podcast from Russell and Todd in a private plane. On this special private plane episode Russell and Clickfunnels co-founder, Todd Dickerson, rant about troubles they've had with different platforms, most recently iTunes. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear on this episode: Find out why Russell is not longer getting subscribers for his podcast, and how all efforts to fix the problem have been fruitless. Hear Todd tell a story about a friend of his that basically lost his business when Amazon D-listed his product. Find out why YouTuber, PewdiePie pretty much lost everything after using an offensive term. And discover how we can learn from these examples to make sure we don't have all our eggs in one basket. So listen here to find out why it's important to have a back up plan when it comes to social media platforms, as well as merchant accounts. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/beware-of-all-platforms-except-this-one Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A podcast from Russell and Todd in a private plane.

On this special private plane episode Russell and Clickfunnels co-founder, Todd Dickerson, rant about troubles they've had with different platforms, most recently iTunes. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear on this episode:

  • Find out why Russell is not longer getting subscribers for his podcast, and how all efforts to fix the problem have been fruitless.
  • Hear Todd tell a story about a friend of his that basically lost his business when Amazon D-listed his product.
  • Find out why YouTuber, PewdiePie pretty much lost everything after using an offensive term.
  • And discover how we can learn from these examples to make sure we don't have all our eggs in one basket.

So listen here to find out why it's important to have a back up plan when it comes to social media platforms, as well as merchant accounts.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/beware-of-all-platforms-except-this-one

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]]> 1198 no Aligning Your Will With The Marketplace https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/aligning-your-will-with-the-marketplace Interesting thoughts I had on my drive home from Salt Lake City. On this episode Russell relates following God's will to following the will of the market in business. Here are some of the enlightening things you will hear in today's episode: How spending his weekend talking to a leader in his church reminded him that's its important to align your belief's with Gods. How aligning your beliefs will God's is similar to aligning your product ideas with the needs of the market you're in. And find out how you can align your own beliefs with that of the market you are in. So listen here to find out how Russell is able to relate business marketing to God. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/aligning-your-will-with-the-marketplace Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:49:00 -0000 Aligning Your Will With The Marketplace full 52 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Interesting thoughts I had on my drive home from Salt Lake City. Interesting thoughts I had on my drive home from Salt Lake City. On this episode Russell relates following God's will to following the will of the market in business. Here are some of the enlightening things you will hear in today's episode: How spending his weekend talking to a leader in his church reminded him that's its important to align your belief's with Gods. How aligning your beliefs will God's is similar to aligning your product ideas with the needs of the market you're in. And find out how you can align your own beliefs with that of the market you are in. So listen here to find out how Russell is able to relate business marketing to God. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/aligning-your-will-with-the-marketplace Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Interesting thoughts I had on my drive home from Salt Lake City.

On this episode Russell relates following God's will to following the will of the market in business. Here are some of the enlightening things you will hear in today's episode:

  • How spending his weekend talking to a leader in his church reminded him that's its important to align your belief's with Gods.
  • How aligning your beliefs will God's is similar to aligning your product ideas with the needs of the market you're in.
  • And find out how you can align your own beliefs with that of the market you are in.

So listen here to find out how Russell is able to relate business marketing to God.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/aligning-your-will-with-the-marketplace

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]]> 670 no RANT: If You Want Me To Wipe Your Butt, Go To Daycare https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/rant-if-you-want-me-to-wipe-your-butt-go-to-daycare Russell's rant about what's keeping people from success. On this episode Russell rants about the difference between daycare, college and coaching and why to be successful you need coaching. But to be a champion you have to put in the extra work because coaches can only take you so far. Here are some interesting things in this episode: Why you need to listen to your coaches to be successful, otherwise you might as well go to daycare or college. And why putting in extra work after the coaching is what will make you a champion. Listen here to find out why you need to move on from daycare, and college and jump into coaching and then put in even more effort to become a champion. Transcript - https://members.innercircleforlife.com/blog/51-1-rant-if-you-want-me-to-wipe-your-butt-go-to-daycare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:44:00 -0000 RANT: If You Want Me To Wipe Your Butt, Go To Daycare bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell’s rant about what’s keeping people from success. Russell's rant about what's keeping people from success. On this episode Russell rants about the difference between daycare, college and coaching and why to be successful you need coaching. But to be a champion you have to put in the extra work because coaches can only take you so far. Here are some interesting things in this episode: Why you need to listen to your coaches to be successful, otherwise you might as well go to daycare or college. And why putting in extra work after the coaching is what will make you a champion. Listen here to find out why you need to move on from daycare, and college and jump into coaching and then put in even more effort to become a champion. Transcript - https://members.innercircleforlife.com/blog/51-1-rant-if-you-want-me-to-wipe-your-butt-go-to-daycare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell's rant about what's keeping people from success.

On this episode Russell rants about the difference between daycare, college and coaching and why to be successful you need coaching. But to be a champion you have to put in the extra work because coaches can only take you so far. Here are some interesting things in this episode:

  • Why you need to listen to your coaches to be successful, otherwise you might as well go to daycare or college.
  • And why putting in extra work after the coaching is what will make you a champion.

Listen here to find out why you need to move on from daycare, and college and jump into coaching and then put in even more effort to become a champion.

Transcript - https://members.innercircleforlife.com/blog/51-1-rant-if-you-want-me-to-wipe-your-butt-go-to-daycare

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]]> 637 no Focusing On Your UA, $100K-A-Day Role https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/focusing-on-your-ua-100k-a-day-role How we're creating systems so that everyone can focus on their unique abilities. On this episode Russell talks about being worth $100,000 a day in his business, but not being worth anything as an assistant wrestling coaching. He goes on to say why it's important to focus on unique abilities. Here are some of the amazing things in today's episode: Why Russell had to tell an old friend that he couldn't come visit unless he paid him $100,000 a day. How Russell ended up being an assistant wrestling coach for free. And why focusing on our own and our team members unique abilities is a good way to grow your company. So listen here to find out why Russell charges $100,000 a day for business consulting, but is an assistant wrestling coach for free. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/focusing-on-your-ua-100k-a-day-role Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 26 Oct 2017 22:39:00 -0000 Focusing On Your UA, $100K-A-Day Role full 51 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How we’re creating systems so that everyone can focus on their unique abilities. How we're creating systems so that everyone can focus on their unique abilities. On this episode Russell talks about being worth $100,000 a day in his business, but not being worth anything as an assistant wrestling coaching. He goes on to say why it's important to focus on unique abilities. Here are some of the amazing things in today's episode: Why Russell had to tell an old friend that he couldn't come visit unless he paid him $100,000 a day. How Russell ended up being an assistant wrestling coach for free. And why focusing on our own and our team members unique abilities is a good way to grow your company. So listen here to find out why Russell charges $100,000 a day for business consulting, but is an assistant wrestling coach for free. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/focusing-on-your-ua-100k-a-day-role Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How we're creating systems so that everyone can focus on their unique abilities.

On this episode Russell talks about being worth $100,000 a day in his business, but not being worth anything as an assistant wrestling coaching. He goes on to say why it's important to focus on unique abilities. Here are some of the amazing things in today's episode:

  • Why Russell had to tell an old friend that he couldn't come visit unless he paid him $100,000 a day.
  • How Russell ended up being an assistant wrestling coach for free.
  • And why focusing on our own and our team members unique abilities is a good way to grow your company.

So listen here to find out why Russell charges $100,000 a day for business consulting, but is an assistant wrestling coach for free.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/focusing-on-your-ua-100k-a-day-role

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]]> 720 no The Secret Closing Technique I Learned From One Of The Top Copywriters In Singapore https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secret-closing-technique-i-learned-from-one-of-the-top-copywriters-in-singapore I use this in every webinar, every Facebook live, every sales letter, and pretty much every time I sell anything, and I'm going to give it to you for free! On this episode Russell talks about a closing technique he learned from the first copywriter he ever paid, that he has been using ever since. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Who Russell first heard use this technique and what's cool about it. Listen as Russell go into character to show how he does the sales pitch. And find out why it doesn't have to be all or nothing when people buy from a webinar. So listen here to find out what technique Russell has been using for years to close. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secret-closing-technique-i-learned-from-one-of-the-top-copywriters-in-singapore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 25 Oct 2017 23:04:00 -0000 The Secret Closing Technique I Learned From One Of The Top Copywriters In Singapore full 50 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I use this in every webinar, every Facebook live, every sales letter, and pretty much every time I sell anything, and I’m going to give it to you for free! I use this in every webinar, every Facebook live, every sales letter, and pretty much every time I sell anything, and I'm going to give it to you for free! On this episode Russell talks about a closing technique he learned from the first copywriter he ever paid, that he has been using ever since. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Who Russell first heard use this technique and what's cool about it. Listen as Russell go into character to show how he does the sales pitch. And find out why it doesn't have to be all or nothing when people buy from a webinar. So listen here to find out what technique Russell has been using for years to close. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secret-closing-technique-i-learned-from-one-of-the-top-copywriters-in-singapore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I use this in every webinar, every Facebook live, every sales letter, and pretty much every time I sell anything, and I'm going to give it to you for free!

On this episode Russell talks about a closing technique he learned from the first copywriter he ever paid, that he has been using ever since. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Who Russell first heard use this technique and what's cool about it.
  • Listen as Russell go into character to show how he does the sales pitch.
  • And find out why it doesn't have to be all or nothing when people buy from a webinar.

So listen here to find out what technique Russell has been using for years to close.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secret-closing-technique-i-learned-from-one-of-the-top-copywriters-in-singapore

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]]> 569 no Adding In Your Second Entrepreneurial Super Power https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/adding-in-your-second-entrepreneurial-super-power The second super power that you need to add that's, unfortunately, invisible to the entrepreneurial eye. On this episode Russell talks about being able to set long term goals to help you focus today and stop chasing all the shiny things that you see along the way. Here are some interesting things you will hear in this episode: Why you should stop being distracted by shiny things by focusing on the one thing that you want to do. Why being entrepreneurial is like having a super power and how being able to set goals and follow them is a second super power. And how setting a someday goal will help you reverse engineer your 5 year, 1 year, 1 month, 1 week, and today goals. So listen here to find out how to add another super power to your entrepreneurship. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/adding-in-your-second-entrepreneurial-super-power Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:10:00 -0000 Adding In Your Second Entrepreneurial Super Power full 49 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The second super power that you need to add that’s, unfortunately, invisible to the entrepreneurial eye. The second super power that you need to add that's, unfortunately, invisible to the entrepreneurial eye. On this episode Russell talks about being able to set long term goals to help you focus today and stop chasing all the shiny things that you see along the way. Here are some interesting things you will hear in this episode: Why you should stop being distracted by shiny things by focusing on the one thing that you want to do. Why being entrepreneurial is like having a super power and how being able to set goals and follow them is a second super power. And how setting a someday goal will help you reverse engineer your 5 year, 1 year, 1 month, 1 week, and today goals. So listen here to find out how to add another super power to your entrepreneurship. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/adding-in-your-second-entrepreneurial-super-power Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The second super power that you need to add that's, unfortunately, invisible to the entrepreneurial eye.

On this episode Russell talks about being able to set long term goals to help you focus today and stop chasing all the shiny things that you see along the way. Here are some interesting things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why you should stop being distracted by shiny things by focusing on the one thing that you want to do.
  • Why being entrepreneurial is like having a super power and how being able to set goals and follow them is a second super power.
  • And how setting a someday goal will help you reverse engineer your 5 year, 1 year, 1 month, 1 week, and today goals.

So listen here to find out how to add another super power to your entrepreneurship.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/adding-in-your-second-entrepreneurial-super-power

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]]> 1036 no What Really Happened Behind The Scenes Of Our Biggest Webinar Ever https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-really-happened-behind-the-scenes-of-our-biggest-webinar-ever Here's a behind the scene's glimpse of the chaos that ensued in the 24 hour webinar. On today's episode Russell goes over what happened when he planned and executed a new webinar in under 24 hours. He recounts what went wrong, what went well, and how it did overall. Here are some cool things to listen for in this episode: What things went wrong during the webinar, such as software freezing, and slides not being completed in time. Why a guy that actually pays Russell for coaching has no business critiquing the webinar. And why you need to just do it if you are planning on launching a webinar. What are you waiting for? So listen here to find out how Russell's webinar went and hear what he's changing when he redoes it later this week. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-really-happened-behind-the-scenes-of-our-biggest-webinar-ever Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:41:00 -0000 What Really Happened Behind The Scenes Of Our Biggest Webinar Ever full 48 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here’s a behind the scene’s glimpse of the chaos that ensued in the 24 hour webinar. Here's a behind the scene's glimpse of the chaos that ensued in the 24 hour webinar. On today's episode Russell goes over what happened when he planned and executed a new webinar in under 24 hours. He recounts what went wrong, what went well, and how it did overall. Here are some cool things to listen for in this episode: What things went wrong during the webinar, such as software freezing, and slides not being completed in time. Why a guy that actually pays Russell for coaching has no business critiquing the webinar. And why you need to just do it if you are planning on launching a webinar. What are you waiting for? So listen here to find out how Russell's webinar went and hear what he's changing when he redoes it later this week. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-really-happened-behind-the-scenes-of-our-biggest-webinar-ever Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here's a behind the scene's glimpse of the chaos that ensued in the 24 hour webinar.

On today's episode Russell goes over what happened when he planned and executed a new webinar in under 24 hours. He recounts what went wrong, what went well, and how it did overall. Here are some cool things to listen for in this episode:

  • What things went wrong during the webinar, such as software freezing, and slides not being completed in time.
  • Why a guy that actually pays Russell for coaching has no business critiquing the webinar.
  • And why you need to just do it if you are planning on launching a webinar. What are you waiting for?

So listen here to find out how Russell's webinar went and hear what he's changing when he redoes it later this week.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-really-happened-behind-the-scenes-of-our-biggest-webinar-ever

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]]> 1034 no The Big Secret, Making AND Keeping Commitments https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-big-secret-making-and-keeping-commitments One of the traits of all the truly successful people in the world. On this episode Russell talks about why he has a new coach and how he let himself and that coach down last week by not keeping a commitment. Here are some awesome things to listen for on this episode: Why Russell is so coachable, and how that usually leads to success. Why all people who make and keep commitments are successful. And why Russell failed on one commitment last week and is going to try even harder this week to keep all of his commitments and be successful. So listen here if you want to know how to be coachable and be able to succeed. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-big-secret-making-and-keeping-commitments Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:57:00 -0000 The Big Secret, Making AND Keeping Commitments full 47 Russell Brunson | YAP Media One of the traits of all the truly successful people in the world. One of the traits of all the truly successful people in the world. On this episode Russell talks about why he has a new coach and how he let himself and that coach down last week by not keeping a commitment. Here are some awesome things to listen for on this episode: Why Russell is so coachable, and how that usually leads to success. Why all people who make and keep commitments are successful. And why Russell failed on one commitment last week and is going to try even harder this week to keep all of his commitments and be successful. So listen here if you want to know how to be coachable and be able to succeed. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-big-secret-making-and-keeping-commitments Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices One of the traits of all the truly successful people in the world.

On this episode Russell talks about why he has a new coach and how he let himself and that coach down last week by not keeping a commitment. Here are some awesome things to listen for on this episode:

  • Why Russell is so coachable, and how that usually leads to success.
  • Why all people who make and keep commitments are successful.
  • And why Russell failed on one commitment last week and is going to try even harder this week to keep all of his commitments and be successful.

So listen here if you want to know how to be coachable and be able to succeed.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-big-secret-making-and-keeping-commitments

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]]> 607 no And THAT'S The Day You Became An Entrepreneur... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/and-thats-the-day-you-became-an-entrepreneur It happened the day you took personal responsibility for a problem that wasn't your own. On this episode Russell talks about how every entrepreneur is someone who found a problem and took responsibility for it. Here are some of the enlightening things in this episode: Why entrepreneurs are different than the rest of the world when it comes to seeing a problem. Who some of Russell's inner circle members are that are a great example of taking responsibility of a problem and fixing it. And why when entrepreneurs take responsibility for a problem, it changes the world. So listen here to find out how to be an entrepreneur by taking responsibility for a problem that you didn't create but want to fix. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/and-that-s-the-day-you-became-an-entrepreneur Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:51:00 -0000 And THAT'S The Day You Became An Entrepreneur... full 46 Russell Brunson | YAP Media It happened the day you took personal responsibility for a problem that wasn’t your own. It happened the day you took personal responsibility for a problem that wasn't your own. On this episode Russell talks about how every entrepreneur is someone who found a problem and took responsibility for it. Here are some of the enlightening things in this episode: Why entrepreneurs are different than the rest of the world when it comes to seeing a problem. Who some of Russell's inner circle members are that are a great example of taking responsibility of a problem and fixing it. And why when entrepreneurs take responsibility for a problem, it changes the world. So listen here to find out how to be an entrepreneur by taking responsibility for a problem that you didn't create but want to fix. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/and-that-s-the-day-you-became-an-entrepreneur Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices It happened the day you took personal responsibility for a problem that wasn't your own.

On this episode Russell talks about how every entrepreneur is someone who found a problem and took responsibility for it. Here are some of the enlightening things in this episode:

  • Why entrepreneurs are different than the rest of the world when it comes to seeing a problem.
  • Who some of Russell's inner circle members are that are a great example of taking responsibility of a problem and fixing it.
  • And why when entrepreneurs take responsibility for a problem, it changes the world.

So listen here to find out how to be an entrepreneur by taking responsibility for a problem that you didn't create but want to fix.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/and-that-s-the-day-you-became-an-entrepreneur

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]]> 489 no Some Of My Favorite Highlights From This Week's Inner Circle Meetings https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/some-of-my-favorite-highlights-from-this-weeks-inner-circle-meetings The power of vulnerability, acting with urgency, and a whole lot more... On this episode Russell gives some of the awesome highlights from the latest set of Inner Circle mastermind meetings. Here are some interesting things to listen for in this episode: How everyone in the Inner Circle group has been able to grow together making $30-50 grand a month last round to making $100-200 grand this round. Why it's important to celebrate other's success in order for them to celebrate yours. And what makes being vulnerable so powerful with your audience. So listen here to hear these and many other highlights from the inner circle mastermind meetings. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/some-of-my-favorite-highlights-from-this-week-s-inner-circle-meetings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 06 Oct 2017 22:21:00 -0000 Some Of My Favorite Highlights From This Week's Inner Circle Meetings full 45 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The power of vulnerability, acting with urgency, and a whole lot more… The power of vulnerability, acting with urgency, and a whole lot more... On this episode Russell gives some of the awesome highlights from the latest set of Inner Circle mastermind meetings. Here are some interesting things to listen for in this episode: How everyone in the Inner Circle group has been able to grow together making $30-50 grand a month last round to making $100-200 grand this round. Why it's important to celebrate other's success in order for them to celebrate yours. And what makes being vulnerable so powerful with your audience. So listen here to hear these and many other highlights from the inner circle mastermind meetings. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/some-of-my-favorite-highlights-from-this-week-s-inner-circle-meetings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The power of vulnerability, acting with urgency, and a whole lot more...

On this episode Russell gives some of the awesome highlights from the latest set of Inner Circle mastermind meetings. Here are some interesting things to listen for in this episode:

  • How everyone in the Inner Circle group has been able to grow together making $30-50 grand a month last round to making $100-200 grand this round.
  • Why it's important to celebrate other's success in order for them to celebrate yours.
  • And what makes being vulnerable so powerful with your audience.

So listen here to hear these and many other highlights from the inner circle mastermind meetings.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/some-of-my-favorite-highlights-from-this-week-s-inner-circle-meetings

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]]> 725 no Begin With The End In Mind https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/begin-with-the-end-in-mind A really cool lesson I learned from my new coach and how it applies to your funnel. On today's episode Russell talks about how his new coach has helped him figure out his someday goal and the steps he should be taking to achieve it. Here are some interesting things you'll hear in this episode: Why Russell needed to figure out a new someday goal, and how to take steps to achieve it. Why achieving everyday goals with his someday goal in mind will help him get there. And how having an end in mind will help you reverse engineer your funnels to meet your end goal. So listen here to learn the steps to achieving your someday goals. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/begin-with-the-end-in-mind Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 05 Oct 2017 22:42:00 -0000 Begin With The End In Mind full 44 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A really cool lesson I learned from my new coach and how it applies to your funnel. A really cool lesson I learned from my new coach and how it applies to your funnel. On today's episode Russell talks about how his new coach has helped him figure out his someday goal and the steps he should be taking to achieve it. Here are some interesting things you'll hear in this episode: Why Russell needed to figure out a new someday goal, and how to take steps to achieve it. Why achieving everyday goals with his someday goal in mind will help him get there. And how having an end in mind will help you reverse engineer your funnels to meet your end goal. So listen here to learn the steps to achieving your someday goals. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/begin-with-the-end-in-mind Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A really cool lesson I learned from my new coach and how it applies to your funnel.

On today's episode Russell talks about how his new coach has helped him figure out his someday goal and the steps he should be taking to achieve it. Here are some interesting things you'll hear in this episode:

  • Why Russell needed to figure out a new someday goal, and how to take steps to achieve it.
  • Why achieving everyday goals with his someday goal in mind will help him get there.
  • And how having an end in mind will help you reverse engineer your funnels to meet your end goal.

So listen here to learn the steps to achieving your someday goals.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/begin-with-the-end-in-mind

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]]> 869 no Before States And After States And The Power Of Contrast https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/before-states-and-after-states-and-the-power-of-contrast Listen in on this unique conversation after a late night mastermind outside the Clickfunnels headquarters. On this episode Russell talks about contrast with Dave and Steven. Here are some interesting things to listen for in today's episode: Why having contrast creates desire in customers. And what kinds of things about contrast Russell, Dave and Steven learned from the Chatbooks viral video. So listen here to find out why contrast in your marketing is so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/before-states-and-after-states-and-the-power-of-contrast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 04 Oct 2017 21:21:00 -0000 Before States And After States And The Power Of Contrast full 43 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen in on this unique conversation after a late night mastermind outside the Clickfunnels headquarters. Listen in on this unique conversation after a late night mastermind outside the Clickfunnels headquarters. On this episode Russell talks about contrast with Dave and Steven. Here are some interesting things to listen for in today's episode: Why having contrast creates desire in customers. And what kinds of things about contrast Russell, Dave and Steven learned from the Chatbooks viral video. So listen here to find out why contrast in your marketing is so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/before-states-and-after-states-and-the-power-of-contrast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen in on this unique conversation after a late night mastermind outside the Clickfunnels headquarters.

On this episode Russell talks about contrast with Dave and Steven. Here are some interesting things to listen for in today's episode:

  • Why having contrast creates desire in customers.
  • And what kinds of things about contrast Russell, Dave and Steven learned from the Chatbooks viral video.

So listen here to find out why contrast in your marketing is so important.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/before-states-and-after-states-and-the-power-of-contrast

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]]> 376 no Listen, Do, Succeed https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/listen-do-succeed The fastest way to succeed in anything in life. On today's episode Russell talks about finding a coach and actually doing what they say. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for today: Why Russell hired a new coach, and why having a coach is important to him. Why Russell's wrestling coach said he was one of the most coachable people ever. And why you need to find someone you trust, listen to what they say, do it, and then you'll have success. So listen here to find out how to find success by finding a mentor or coach you can trust. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/listen-do-succeed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 03 Oct 2017 22:10:00 -0000 Listen, Do, Succeed full 42 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The fastest way to succeed in anything in life. The fastest way to succeed in anything in life. On today's episode Russell talks about finding a coach and actually doing what they say. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for today: Why Russell hired a new coach, and why having a coach is important to him. Why Russell's wrestling coach said he was one of the most coachable people ever. And why you need to find someone you trust, listen to what they say, do it, and then you'll have success. So listen here to find out how to find success by finding a mentor or coach you can trust. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/listen-do-succeed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The fastest way to succeed in anything in life.

On today's episode Russell talks about finding a coach and actually doing what they say. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for today:

  • Why Russell hired a new coach, and why having a coach is important to him.
  • Why Russell's wrestling coach said he was one of the most coachable people ever.
  • And why you need to find someone you trust, listen to what they say, do it, and then you'll have success.

So listen here to find out how to find success by finding a mentor or coach you can trust.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/listen-do-succeed

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]]> 768 no Behind The Scenes Of Our $100,000,000 Traffic Meeting https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/behind-the-scenes-of-our-100000000-traffic-meeting All the little things you're not doing to get more traffic now. On this episode Russel talks about the big theme in the company right now, which is going from ten million dollars a year to a hundred million. He talks about what they are doing to be able to build a blueprint to help others do what they have done. Here are some cool things in this episode: Hear why Russell is obsessed with writing books right now in order to leave a legacy. Find out which book will come after Expert Secrets in the series and what it will focus on. And find out what is happening next with the Marketing Secrets podcast. Listen to all this and more, and don't forget to get your tickets for Funnel Hacking Live before they are gone. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-our-100-000-000-traffic-meeting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 02 Oct 2017 21:32:00 -0000 Behind The Scenes Of Our $100,000,000 Traffic Meeting full 41 Russell Brunson | YAP Media All the little things you’re not doing to get more traffic now. All the little things you're not doing to get more traffic now. On this episode Russel talks about the big theme in the company right now, which is going from ten million dollars a year to a hundred million. He talks about what they are doing to be able to build a blueprint to help others do what they have done. Here are some cool things in this episode: Hear why Russell is obsessed with writing books right now in order to leave a legacy. Find out which book will come after Expert Secrets in the series and what it will focus on. And find out what is happening next with the Marketing Secrets podcast. Listen to all this and more, and don't forget to get your tickets for Funnel Hacking Live before they are gone. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-our-100-000-000-traffic-meeting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices All the little things you're not doing to get more traffic now.

On this episode Russel talks about the big theme in the company right now, which is going from ten million dollars a year to a hundred million. He talks about what they are doing to be able to build a blueprint to help others do what they have done. Here are some cool things in this episode:

  • Hear why Russell is obsessed with writing books right now in order to leave a legacy.
  • Find out which book will come after Expert Secrets in the series and what it will focus on.
  • And find out what is happening next with the Marketing Secrets podcast.

Listen to all this and more, and don't forget to get your tickets for Funnel Hacking Live before they are gone.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-our-100-000-000-traffic-meeting

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]]> 706 no Gary Vee Q&A From The Viral Video Launch Party - Part 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/gary-vee-qa-from-the-viral-video-launch-party-part-2 Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 2 of 2) On this special episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast you will get to hear the second half of the Q&A section of Gary Vaynerchuk's presentation at the viral video launch event. Here are some of the questions Gary answers: Why you should still invest in influencers to build your brand even if they are in a different niche than you. How you support and strengthen your belief in your own intuition. And What Gary's number one business challenge is right now. So listen to Gary's insightful answers to these questions and many others as we finish up part 2 of this special set of episodes. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/gary-vee-q-a-from-the-viral-video-launch-party-part-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 28 Sep 2017 23:21:00 -0000 Gary Vee Q&A From The Viral Video Launch Party - Part 2 bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 2 of 2) Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 2 of 2) On this special episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast you will get to hear the second half of the Q&A section of Gary Vaynerchuk's presentation at the viral video launch event. Here are some of the questions Gary answers: Why you should still invest in influencers to build your brand even if they are in a different niche than you. How you support and strengthen your belief in your own intuition. And What Gary's number one business challenge is right now. So listen to Gary's insightful answers to these questions and many others as we finish up part 2 of this special set of episodes. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/gary-vee-q-a-from-the-viral-video-launch-party-part-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 2 of 2)

On this special episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast you will get to hear the second half of the Q&A section of Gary Vaynerchuk's presentation at the viral video launch event. Here are some of the questions Gary answers:

  • Why you should still invest in influencers to build your brand even if they are in a different niche than you.
  • How you support and strengthen your belief in your own intuition.
  • And What Gary's number one business challenge is right now.

So listen to Gary's insightful answers to these questions and many others as we finish up part 2 of this special set of episodes.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/gary-vee-q-a-from-the-viral-video-launch-party-part-2

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]]> 2765 yes Gary Vee Q&A From The Viral Video Launch Party - Part 1 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/gary-vee-qa-from-the-viral-video-launch-party-part-1 Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 1 of 2) On this special episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast you will get to hear the first half of the Q&A section of Gary Vaynerchuk's presentation at the viral video launch event. Here are some of the questions Gary answers: What he sees happening with artificial intelligence and robots in the next 5 years. What Gary's latest strategies are for shows on both YouTube and Facebook. And What Gary recommends for taking your preferred platform and skyrocketing your numbers. So listen to this first half of Gary's Q&A and tune in for the second half tomorrow. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/gary-vee-q-a-from-the-viral-video-launch-party-part-1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:32:00 -0000 Gary Vee Q&A From The Viral Video Launch Party - Part 1 bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 1 of 2) Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 1 of 2) On this special episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast you will get to hear the first half of the Q&A section of Gary Vaynerchuk's presentation at the viral video launch event. Here are some of the questions Gary answers: What he sees happening with artificial intelligence and robots in the next 5 years. What Gary's latest strategies are for shows on both YouTube and Facebook. And What Gary recommends for taking your preferred platform and skyrocketing your numbers. So listen to this first half of Gary's Q&A and tune in for the second half tomorrow. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/gary-vee-q-a-from-the-viral-video-launch-party-part-1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 1 of 2)

On this special episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast you will get to hear the first half of the Q&A section of Gary Vaynerchuk's presentation at the viral video launch event. Here are some of the questions Gary answers:

  • What he sees happening with artificial intelligence and robots in the next 5 years.
  • What Gary's latest strategies are for shows on both YouTube and Facebook.
  • And What Gary recommends for taking your preferred platform and skyrocketing your numbers.

So listen to this first half of Gary's Q&A and tune in for the second half tomorrow.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/gary-vee-q-a-from-the-viral-video-launch-party-part-1

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]]> 3212 yes Recap From The Viral Video Launch Party https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/recap-from-the-viral-video-launch-party The secret behind making the important become urgent. On this episode of Marketing Secrets, Russell gives a recap of some of the events for the Viral video launch from last week. He goes into some rough numbers and stats and explains why they did it. Here are some of the highlights of this episode: Russell gives some rough numbers of how the viral video went and some of the stats for the first 7 days since. He explains what good things have come from the video launch and why they did the things they did.- And he explains why he needed to make the important things become urgent in order for them to get done, and why he recommends others do the same thing. So listen to this episode and find out how many views the viral video got, and what good things have come from it so far. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/recap-from-the-viral-video-launch-party Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:16:00 -0000 Recap From The Viral Video Launch Party full 40 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The secret behind making the important become urgent. The secret behind making the important become urgent. On this episode of Marketing Secrets, Russell gives a recap of some of the events for the Viral video launch from last week. He goes into some rough numbers and stats and explains why they did it. Here are some of the highlights of this episode: Russell gives some rough numbers of how the viral video went and some of the stats for the first 7 days since. He explains what good things have come from the video launch and why they did the things they did.- And he explains why he needed to make the important things become urgent in order for them to get done, and why he recommends others do the same thing. So listen to this episode and find out how many views the viral video got, and what good things have come from it so far. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/recap-from-the-viral-video-launch-party Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The secret behind making the important become urgent.

On this episode of Marketing Secrets, Russell gives a recap of some of the events for the Viral video launch from last week. He goes into some rough numbers and stats and explains why they did it. Here are some of the highlights of this episode:

  • Russell gives some rough numbers of how the viral video went and some of the stats for the first 7 days since.
  • He explains what good things have come from the video launch and why they did the things they did.-
  • And he explains why he needed to make the important things become urgent in order for them to get done, and why he recommends others do the same thing.

So listen to this episode and find out how many views the viral video got, and what good things have come from it so far.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/recap-from-the-viral-video-launch-party

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]]> 1036 no How We Went From $0 To $100,000,000 Using Growth Hacking And Sales Funnels (Without Taking On Any Outside Money) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-we-went-from-0-to-100000000-using-growth-hacking-and-sales-funnels-without-taking-on-any-outside-money My live presentation from the viral video launch party. On this episode Russell gives a presentation at the viral video launch of how Clickfunnels went from $0 to $100,000,000 using growth hacking and sales funnels. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Step by step how Russell was able to grow his business without you outside funds. How he was basically paid to introduce people into the Clickfunnels world. And why funnels are the key to growing your own business without having to take money from venture capitalists. So listen here to hear this awesome presentation that can teach you how to grow your business using sales funnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-we-went-from-0-to-100-000-000-using-growth-hacking-and-sales-funnels-without-taking-on-any-outside-money Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 20 Sep 2017 21:23:00 -0000 How We Went From $0 To $100,000,000 Using Growth Hacking And Sales Funnels (Without Taking On Any Outside Money) full 39 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My live presentation from the viral video launch party. My live presentation from the viral video launch party. On this episode Russell gives a presentation at the viral video launch of how Clickfunnels went from $0 to $100,000,000 using growth hacking and sales funnels. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode: Step by step how Russell was able to grow his business without you outside funds. How he was basically paid to introduce people into the Clickfunnels world. And why funnels are the key to growing your own business without having to take money from venture capitalists. So listen here to hear this awesome presentation that can teach you how to grow your business using sales funnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-we-went-from-0-to-100-000-000-using-growth-hacking-and-sales-funnels-without-taking-on-any-outside-money Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My live presentation from the viral video launch party.

On this episode Russell gives a presentation at the viral video launch of how Clickfunnels went from $0 to $100,000,000 using growth hacking and sales funnels. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:

  • Step by step how Russell was able to grow his business without you outside funds.
  • How he was basically paid to introduce people into the Clickfunnels world.
  • And why funnels are the key to growing your own business without having to take money from venture capitalists.

So listen here to hear this awesome presentation that can teach you how to grow your business using sales funnels.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-we-went-from-0-to-100-000-000-using-growth-hacking-and-sales-funnels-without-taking-on-any-outside-money

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]]> 840 no Bonus Episode - Behind The Scenes Call With Frank Kern About The Ripple Effect https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/bonus-episode-behind-the-scenes-call-with-frank-kern-about-the-ripple-effect Cool message I got a few minutes before starting our viral video launch event. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/38b-bonus-episode-behind-the-scenes-call-with-frank-kern Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:07:00 -0000 Behind The Scenes Call With Frank Kern About The Ripple Effect bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Cool message I got a few minutes before starting our viral video launch event. Cool message I got a few minutes before starting our viral video launch event. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/38b-bonus-episode-behind-the-scenes-call-with-frank-kern Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Cool message I got a few minutes before starting our viral video launch event.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/38b-bonus-episode-behind-the-scenes-call-with-frank-kern

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]]> 683 no "99 Yards Doth Not A Touchdown Make" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/99-yards-doth-not-a-touchdown-make Russell's thoughts as he enters the last phase of the viral video launch. In this podcast Russell is worn out and tired but he talks about finishing what he started even when he's burned out. Here are some of the awesome insights you will hear in today's episode: Who taught Russell the concept "99 yards doth not a touchdown make", and what it means. What other circumstances Russell has used that quote to help him get through. And why it is so important to give it your all until you complete something, even when all you want to do is quit. So listen here to be inspired to keep going and moving forward and finish what you start. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/99-yards-doth-not-a-touchdown-make Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 18 Sep 2017 22:04:00 -0000 "99 Yards Doth Not A Touchdown Make" full 38 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Russell’s thoughts as he enters the last phase of the viral video launch. Russell's thoughts as he enters the last phase of the viral video launch. In this podcast Russell is worn out and tired but he talks about finishing what he started even when he's burned out. Here are some of the awesome insights you will hear in today's episode: Who taught Russell the concept "99 yards doth not a touchdown make", and what it means. What other circumstances Russell has used that quote to help him get through. And why it is so important to give it your all until you complete something, even when all you want to do is quit. So listen here to be inspired to keep going and moving forward and finish what you start. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/99-yards-doth-not-a-touchdown-make Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Russell's thoughts as he enters the last phase of the viral video launch.

In this podcast Russell is worn out and tired but he talks about finishing what he started even when he's burned out. Here are some of the awesome insights you will hear in today's episode:

  • Who taught Russell the concept "99 yards doth not a touchdown make", and what it means.
  • What other circumstances Russell has used that quote to help him get through.
  • And why it is so important to give it your all until you complete something, even when all you want to do is quit.

So listen here to be inspired to keep going and moving forward and finish what you start.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/99-yards-doth-not-a-touchdown-make

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]]> 573 no Why Does The Fuel You Eat Actually Matter For An Entrepreneur? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-does-the-fuel-you-eat-actually-matter-for-an-entrepreneur My thoughts as I detox from Lucky Charms. On today's episode Russell talks about the effects of putting negative fuel in your body instead of positive. Here are some of the informative things you will hear today: What started Russell on a carb binge that he couldn't stop. Why eating junk will make you feel like junk. And why putting positive fuel in your body will help you compete in business and you'll be more able to get a billion things done in shorter period of time. So listen here to find out why putting negative fuel in your body could be making your work suffer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-does-the-fuel-you-eat-actually-matter-for-an-entrepreneur Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 15 Sep 2017 21:29:00 -0000 Why Does The Fuel You Eat Actually Matter For An Entrepreneur? full 37 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My thoughts as I detox from Lucky Charms. My thoughts as I detox from Lucky Charms. On today's episode Russell talks about the effects of putting negative fuel in your body instead of positive. Here are some of the informative things you will hear today: What started Russell on a carb binge that he couldn't stop. Why eating junk will make you feel like junk. And why putting positive fuel in your body will help you compete in business and you'll be more able to get a billion things done in shorter period of time. So listen here to find out why putting negative fuel in your body could be making your work suffer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-does-the-fuel-you-eat-actually-matter-for-an-entrepreneur Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My thoughts as I detox from Lucky Charms.

On today's episode Russell talks about the effects of putting negative fuel in your body instead of positive. Here are some of the informative things you will hear today:

  • What started Russell on a carb binge that he couldn't stop.
  • Why eating junk will make you feel like junk.
  • And why putting positive fuel in your body will help you compete in business and you'll be more able to get a billion things done in shorter period of time.

So listen here to find out why putting negative fuel in your body could be making your work suffer.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-does-the-fuel-you-eat-actually-matter-for-an-entrepreneur

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]]> 547 no The REAL Secret To Going From 7 To 8 Figures https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-real-secret-to-going-from-7-to-8-figures What I realized that's holding people back from taking the next step in their business. On this episode Russell talks about what the secret is to go from a million dollars annually to ten million to a hundred million. Here are some informative things in today's episode: What advice Russell had for someone in his Two Comma Club when it comes to making more than one million dollars a year. Why it's important to opportunity stack instead of constantly opportunity switching. And some of the things you can do to go from 7 to 8 figures per year. So listen here if you want to be grow your business from a million dollars a year to ten million and even one hundred million! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-real-secret-to-going-from-7-to-8-figures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 14 Sep 2017 23:51:00 -0000 The REAL Secret To Going From 7 To 8 Figures full 36 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What I realized that’s holding people back from taking the next step in their business. What I realized that's holding people back from taking the next step in their business. On this episode Russell talks about what the secret is to go from a million dollars annually to ten million to a hundred million. Here are some informative things in today's episode: What advice Russell had for someone in his Two Comma Club when it comes to making more than one million dollars a year. Why it's important to opportunity stack instead of constantly opportunity switching. And some of the things you can do to go from 7 to 8 figures per year. So listen here if you want to be grow your business from a million dollars a year to ten million and even one hundred million! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-real-secret-to-going-from-7-to-8-figures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What I realized that's holding people back from taking the next step in their business.

On this episode Russell talks about what the secret is to go from a million dollars annually to ten million to a hundred million. Here are some informative things in today's episode:

  • What advice Russell had for someone in his Two Comma Club when it comes to making more than one million dollars a year.
  • Why it's important to opportunity stack instead of constantly opportunity switching.
  • And some of the things you can do to go from 7 to 8 figures per year.

So listen here if you want to be grow your business from a million dollars a year to ten million and even one hundred million!

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-real-secret-to-going-from-7-to-8-figures

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]]> 910 no Calling Out Your People https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/calling-out-your-people My new formula for getting your message in front of the masses. On today's episode Russell talks about what he has done to be able to connect with a broader audience of entrepreneurs. Here are the awesome things you will find in this episode: Why people like the Harmon Brothers don't know what copy is, yet they write amazing copy. What Russell did to be able to appeal and connect with a broader audience of entrepreneurs rather than just marketers. And how you can connect with a bigger audience and how that could help you. So listen here to find out how Russell connected with a larger audience and what the plan for the future with them is. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/calling-out-your-people Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 13 Sep 2017 23:15:00 -0000 Calling Out Your People full 35 Russell Brunson | YAP Media My new formula for getting your message in front of the masses. My new formula for getting your message in front of the masses. On today's episode Russell talks about what he has done to be able to connect with a broader audience of entrepreneurs. Here are the awesome things you will find in this episode: Why people like the Harmon Brothers don't know what copy is, yet they write amazing copy. What Russell did to be able to appeal and connect with a broader audience of entrepreneurs rather than just marketers. And how you can connect with a bigger audience and how that could help you. So listen here to find out how Russell connected with a larger audience and what the plan for the future with them is. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/calling-out-your-people Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices My new formula for getting your message in front of the masses.

On today's episode Russell talks about what he has done to be able to connect with a broader audience of entrepreneurs. Here are the awesome things you will find in this episode:

  • Why people like the Harmon Brothers don't know what copy is, yet they write amazing copy.
  • What Russell did to be able to appeal and connect with a broader audience of entrepreneurs rather than just marketers.
  • And how you can connect with a bigger audience and how that could help you.

So listen here to find out how Russell connected with a larger audience and what the plan for the future with them is.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/calling-out-your-people

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]]> 702 no Payoff Your House First... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/payoff-your-house-first Against all traditional investing advice, this should be your number one focus after you launch your company. On this episode Russell talks about paying your house off quickly so you can have the ability to risk more. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell is giving the opposite advice as nearly every investor there is when it comes to paying off your house. How Russell was able to keep his wife in the dark about some of the hardest times in the business. Why having the stability of a paid off house gives entrepreneurs the ability to risk more. So listen here to find out what would happen to Russell, worst case scenario and why he wouldn't lose his home or family. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/payoff-your-house-first Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:19:00 -0000 Payoff Your House First... full 34 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Against all traditional investing advice, this should be your number one focus after you launch your company. Against all traditional investing advice, this should be your number one focus after you launch your company. On this episode Russell talks about paying your house off quickly so you can have the ability to risk more. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in today's episode: Why Russell is giving the opposite advice as nearly every investor there is when it comes to paying off your house. How Russell was able to keep his wife in the dark about some of the hardest times in the business. Why having the stability of a paid off house gives entrepreneurs the ability to risk more. So listen here to find out what would happen to Russell, worst case scenario and why he wouldn't lose his home or family. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/payoff-your-house-first Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Against all traditional investing advice, this should be your number one focus after you launch your company.

On this episode Russell talks about paying your house off quickly so you can have the ability to risk more. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why Russell is giving the opposite advice as nearly every investor there is when it comes to paying off your house.
  • How Russell was able to keep his wife in the dark about some of the hardest times in the business.
  • Why having the stability of a paid off house gives entrepreneurs the ability to risk more.

So listen here to find out what would happen to Russell, worst case scenario and why he wouldn't lose his home or family.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/payoff-your-house-first

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]]> 693 no STOP STOPPING! https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/stop-stopping If you want success, the first step is STOP STOPPING!!! On this episode Russell talks about getting his stalling kids ready for bed and yelling at them to stop stopping, which reminded him of what Setema said at Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Why yelling at his kids to stop stalling, made him think of people who need to stop stopping when it comes to business and life. Why it's always important to keep moving forward even when you hit roadblocks. And why its physically impossible to have success when you stop from every roadblock that gets in your way. So listen here to listen to Russell say "Stop stopping" a million times to burn it into your brain so it motivates you to always move forward. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/stop-stopping Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 11 Sep 2017 20:44:00 -0000 STOP STOPPING! full 33 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you want success, the first step is STOP STOPPING!!! If you want success, the first step is STOP STOPPING!!! On this episode Russell talks about getting his stalling kids ready for bed and yelling at them to stop stopping, which reminded him of what Setema said at Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Why yelling at his kids to stop stalling, made him think of people who need to stop stopping when it comes to business and life. Why it's always important to keep moving forward even when you hit roadblocks. And why its physically impossible to have success when you stop from every roadblock that gets in your way. So listen here to listen to Russell say "Stop stopping" a million times to burn it into your brain so it motivates you to always move forward. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/stop-stopping Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you want success, the first step is STOP STOPPING!!!

On this episode Russell talks about getting his stalling kids ready for bed and yelling at them to stop stopping, which reminded him of what Setema said at Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode:

  • Why yelling at his kids to stop stalling, made him think of people who need to stop stopping when it comes to business and life.
  • Why it's always important to keep moving forward even when you hit roadblocks.
  • And why its physically impossible to have success when you stop from every roadblock that gets in your way.

So listen here to listen to Russell say "Stop stopping" a million times to burn it into your brain so it motivates you to always move forward.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/stop-stopping

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]]> 479 no Funnel Hacker Onboarding #4 - How Do You Sell Your Offer? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacker-onboarding-4-how-do-you-sell-your-offer On this episode Russell goes over the final step of the Clickfunnels onboarding process and helps you understand why the copy, or the words within your funnels, are so important. Here are some exciting things in today's episode: Learn why good copy is just as valuable as a good salesperson is offline. Hear what kind of resources are available to help you write copy successfully. And finally see how all the training you have received in these last four episodes fit together to help you be successful with funnels. Listen here to the last step and help yourself have even more success with Clickfunnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-4-how-do-you-sell-your-offer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:36:00 -0000 Funnel Hacker Onboarding #4 - How Do You Sell Your Offer? bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode Russell goes over the final step of the Clickfunnels onboarding process... the copy. On this episode Russell goes over the final step of the Clickfunnels onboarding process and helps you understand why the copy, or the words within your funnels, are so important. Here are some exciting things in today's episode: Learn why good copy is just as valuable as a good salesperson is offline. Hear what kind of resources are available to help you write copy successfully. And finally see how all the training you have received in these last four episodes fit together to help you be successful with funnels. Listen here to the last step and help yourself have even more success with Clickfunnels. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-4-how-do-you-sell-your-offer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode Russell goes over the final step of the Clickfunnels onboarding process and helps you understand why the copy, or the words within your funnels, are so important. Here are some exciting things in today's episode:

  • Learn why good copy is just as valuable as a good salesperson is offline.
  • Hear what kind of resources are available to help you write copy successfully.
  • And finally see how all the training you have received in these last four episodes fit together to help you be successful with funnels.

Listen here to the last step and help yourself have even more success with Clickfunnels.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-4-how-do-you-sell-your-offer

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]]> 632 no Funnel Hacker Onboarding #3 - What's Your Offer? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacker-onboarding-3-whats-your-offer On this episode Russell goes over the third step in the new Clickfunnels onboarding process, which is creating an offer. Here are the amazing things you will hear in today's episode: Why creating an offer is one of the most important, yet least understood parts of the process. What the difference between having a product and having an offer is. And how to create an offer that is sexy and attractive to a customer. So listen here to find out why creating an offer is so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-3-what-s-your-offer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:55:00 -0000 Funnel Hacker Onboarding #3 - What's Your Offer? bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode Russell goes over the third step in the new Clickfunnels onboarding process, which is creating an offer. On this episode Russell goes over the third step in the new Clickfunnels onboarding process, which is creating an offer. Here are the amazing things you will hear in today's episode: Why creating an offer is one of the most important, yet least understood parts of the process. What the difference between having a product and having an offer is. And how to create an offer that is sexy and attractive to a customer. So listen here to find out why creating an offer is so important. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-3-what-s-your-offer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode Russell goes over the third step in the new Clickfunnels onboarding process, which is creating an offer. Here are the amazing things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why creating an offer is one of the most important, yet least understood parts of the process.
  • What the difference between having a product and having an offer is.
  • And how to create an offer that is sexy and attractive to a customer.

So listen here to find out why creating an offer is so important.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-3-what-s-your-offer

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]]> 716 no Funnel Hacker Onboarding #2 - What's Your Micro Value Ladder? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacker-onboarding-2-whats-your-micro-value-ladder On this episode Russell talks about the second step of the funnel hacker onboarding process, the value ladder. Here are some cool things to look for in this episode. You will see how the value ladder works. Find out how to get your customers to ascend the ladder. And see why providing value to your customer will help you get what you want out of them. So listen here to find out how to get customers to ascend the value ladder so you can get more of what you want out of your customers. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-2-what-s-your-micro-value-ladder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:23:00 -0000 Funnel Hacker Onboarding #2 - What's Your Micro Value Ladder? bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media On this episode Russell talks about the second step of the funnel hacker onboarding process, the value ladder. On this episode Russell talks about the second step of the funnel hacker onboarding process, the value ladder. Here are some cool things to look for in this episode. You will see how the value ladder works. Find out how to get your customers to ascend the ladder. And see why providing value to your customer will help you get what you want out of them. So listen here to find out how to get customers to ascend the value ladder so you can get more of what you want out of your customers. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-2-what-s-your-micro-value-ladder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On this episode Russell talks about the second step of the funnel hacker onboarding process, the value ladder. Here are some cool things to look for in this episode.

  • You will see how the value ladder works.
  • Find out how to get your customers to ascend the ladder.
  • And see why providing value to your customer will help you get what you want out of them.

So listen here to find out how to get customers to ascend the value ladder so you can get more of what you want out of your customers.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-2-what-s-your-micro-value-ladder

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]]> 600 no Funnel Hacker Onboarding #1 - Why Funnels? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/funnel-hacker-onboarding-1-why-funnels On today's special episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell shares a video for the new onboarding process in Clickfunnels. He talks about the four core things you should know and goes into detail on the first one, which is what a funnel is and does your business need funnels? Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: What the four core concepts are that you will need to know to use Clickfunnels effectively. What the difference between a website and a funnel are. And hear about Russell's first experience using a funnel and if it worked well for him. Listen hear to find out more about the first core concept you need to know for the Funnel Hacker Onboarding process. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-1-why-funnels Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 06 Sep 2017 00:48:00 -0000 Funnel Hacker Onboarding #1 - Why Funnels? bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media On today’s special episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell shares a video for the new onboarding process in Clickfunnels. On today's special episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell shares a video for the new onboarding process in Clickfunnels. He talks about the four core things you should know and goes into detail on the first one, which is what a funnel is and does your business need funnels? Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: What the four core concepts are that you will need to know to use Clickfunnels effectively. What the difference between a website and a funnel are. And hear about Russell's first experience using a funnel and if it worked well for him. Listen hear to find out more about the first core concept you need to know for the Funnel Hacker Onboarding process. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-1-why-funnels Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On today's special episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, Russell shares a video for the new onboarding process in Clickfunnels. He talks about the four core things you should know and goes into detail on the first one, which is what a funnel is and does your business need funnels? Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • What the four core concepts are that you will need to know to use Clickfunnels effectively.
  • What the difference between a website and a funnel are.
  • And hear about Russell's first experience using a funnel and if it worked well for him.

Listen hear to find out more about the first core concept you need to know for the Funnel Hacker Onboarding process.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/funnel-hacker-onboarding-1-why-funnels

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]]> 980 no Bonus Episode - Why Entrepreneurs Suck At Vacations https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/bonus-episode-why-entrepreneurs-suck-at-vacations Bonus Episode - Why Entrepreneurs Suck At Vacations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sat, 02 Sep 2017 16:00:00 -0000 Bonus Episode - Why Entrepreneurs Suck At Vacations bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Bonus Episode - Why Entrepreneurs Suck At Vacations Bonus Episode - Why Entrepreneurs Suck At Vacations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Bonus Episode - Why Entrepreneurs Suck At Vacations

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]]> 193 no I Get Knocked Down But I Get Up Again... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/i-get-knocked-down-but-i-get-up-again How to recover quickly, when you keep on getting knocked down. On this episode Russell talks about spending his day putting out giant fires, so he can get up and do it all again. He explains why it's important to get back up whenever you get knocked down. Here are some of the awesome things happening in today's episode: Find out what kind of issues Russell had in one day and how he was able to get up and move forward. Hear Russell's backstory of how he learned to roll with the punches and continue to move forward even when facing obstacles that seem insurmountable. And find out why you too should get back up and keep going whenever you get knocked down. So listen here to hear Russell's inspirational story of how he makes it through the kind of challenges that would keep a lesser man down. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-get-knocked-down-but-i-get-up-again Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 01 Sep 2017 21:22:00 -0000 I Get Knocked Down But I Get Up Again... full 32 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How to recover quickly, when you keep on getting knocked down. How to recover quickly, when you keep on getting knocked down. On this episode Russell talks about spending his day putting out giant fires, so he can get up and do it all again. He explains why it's important to get back up whenever you get knocked down. Here are some of the awesome things happening in today's episode: Find out what kind of issues Russell had in one day and how he was able to get up and move forward. Hear Russell's backstory of how he learned to roll with the punches and continue to move forward even when facing obstacles that seem insurmountable. And find out why you too should get back up and keep going whenever you get knocked down. So listen here to hear Russell's inspirational story of how he makes it through the kind of challenges that would keep a lesser man down. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-get-knocked-down-but-i-get-up-again Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How to recover quickly, when you keep on getting knocked down.

On this episode Russell talks about spending his day putting out giant fires, so he can get up and do it all again. He explains why it's important to get back up whenever you get knocked down. Here are some of the awesome things happening in today's episode:

  • Find out what kind of issues Russell had in one day and how he was able to get up and move forward.
  • Hear Russell's backstory of how he learned to roll with the punches and continue to move forward even when facing obstacles that seem insurmountable.
  • And find out why you too should get back up and keep going whenever you get knocked down.

So listen here to hear Russell's inspirational story of how he makes it through the kind of challenges that would keep a lesser man down.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/i-get-knocked-down-but-i-get-up-again

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]]> 901 no The Four Levels Of Value https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-four-levels-of-value Behind the scenes call with Myron Golden and Russell Brunson. On this episode you will hear Myron Golden talk about the reasons people make a lot of money versus a little money. He goes through the four levels of value for creating income and explains each level. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode: What each level of value is and what resource is used. Why each level of value is where it is, even though it may not seem fair. And why there are actually two resources in the highest level of value. So listen here to find out what the four levels of value are and how much money each level is worth. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-four-levels-of-value Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 31 Aug 2017 22:44:00 -0000 The Four Levels Of Value full 31 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes call with Myron Golden and Russell Brunson. Behind the scenes call with Myron Golden and Russell Brunson. On this episode you will hear Myron Golden talk about the reasons people make a lot of money versus a little money. He goes through the four levels of value for creating income and explains each level. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode: What each level of value is and what resource is used. Why each level of value is where it is, even though it may not seem fair. And why there are actually two resources in the highest level of value. So listen here to find out what the four levels of value are and how much money each level is worth. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-four-levels-of-value Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes call with Myron Golden and Russell Brunson.

On this episode you will hear Myron Golden talk about the reasons people make a lot of money versus a little money. He goes through the four levels of value for creating income and explains each level. Here are some of the insightful things in this episode:

  • What each level of value is and what resource is used.
  • Why each level of value is where it is, even though it may not seem fair.
  • And why there are actually two resources in the highest level of value.

So listen here to find out what the four levels of value are and how much money each level is worth.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-four-levels-of-value

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]]> 542 no 68% Of Your Visitors Never Even See Your Funnel... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/68-of-your-visitors-never-even-see-your-funnel It's amazing that marketers don't discuss this simple and lucrative funnel fix more often... On this episode of Marketing Secrets, we have the last bit of knowledge Russell wants to share from the affiliate mastermind. This time it is a tip from Trevor Chapman. Here are some of the super informative things you will hear in today's episode: Why knowing that 68% of people leave a website before it's finished loading is significant. How you can increase conversion just by making your page load faster. And how Clickfunnels can help you decrease your page loading times. So listen here to find out how making your page load faster could significantly improve your conversion rates. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/68-of-your-visitors-never-even-see-your-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:31:00 -0000 68% Of Your Visitors Never Even See Your Funnel... full 30 Russell Brunson | YAP Media It's amazing that marketers don't discuss this simple and lucrative funnel fix more often... It's amazing that marketers don't discuss this simple and lucrative funnel fix more often... On this episode of Marketing Secrets, we have the last bit of knowledge Russell wants to share from the affiliate mastermind. This time it is a tip from Trevor Chapman. Here are some of the super informative things you will hear in today's episode: Why knowing that 68% of people leave a website before it's finished loading is significant. How you can increase conversion just by making your page load faster. And how Clickfunnels can help you decrease your page loading times. So listen here to find out how making your page load faster could significantly improve your conversion rates. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/68-of-your-visitors-never-even-see-your-funnel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices It's amazing that marketers don't discuss this simple and lucrative funnel fix more often...

On this episode of Marketing Secrets, we have the last bit of knowledge Russell wants to share from the affiliate mastermind. This time it is a tip from Trevor Chapman. Here are some of the super informative things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why knowing that 68% of people leave a website before it's finished loading is significant.
  • How you can increase conversion just by making your page load faster.
  • And how Clickfunnels can help you decrease your page loading times.

So listen here to find out how making your page load faster could significantly improve your conversion rates.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/68-of-your-visitors-never-even-see-your-funnel

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]]> 453 no The Secrets Of "Validation" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-secrets-of-validation Your supporters might be secretly mad at you if you're neglecting to do this simple thing. On this episode Russell talks about validation and why it's important to validate people when they have done a great job. You'll also hear from Julie Stoian at the mastermind event talking about how validation motivated her into working harder. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in today's episode: How Julie helped Russell realize that he needs to be better about validating people when they do things well. Why Russell and Dave validating Julie motivated her to keep going and to work harder in the affiliate contest. And why validation is important in all aspects of life, not just business. Listen here for that and more on this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secrets-of-validation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 29 Aug 2017 23:25:00 -0000 The Secrets Of "Validation" full 29 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Your supporters might be secretly mad at you if you're neglecting to do this simple thing. Your supporters might be secretly mad at you if you're neglecting to do this simple thing. On this episode Russell talks about validation and why it's important to validate people when they have done a great job. You'll also hear from Julie Stoian at the mastermind event talking about how validation motivated her into working harder. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in today's episode: How Julie helped Russell realize that he needs to be better about validating people when they do things well. Why Russell and Dave validating Julie motivated her to keep going and to work harder in the affiliate contest. And why validation is important in all aspects of life, not just business. Listen here for that and more on this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secrets-of-validation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Your supporters might be secretly mad at you if you're neglecting to do this simple thing.

On this episode Russell talks about validation and why it's important to validate people when they have done a great job. You'll also hear from Julie Stoian at the mastermind event talking about how validation motivated her into working harder. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in today's episode:

  • How Julie helped Russell realize that he needs to be better about validating people when they do things well.
  • Why Russell and Dave validating Julie motivated her to keep going and to work harder in the affiliate contest.
  • And why validation is important in all aspects of life, not just business.

Listen here for that and more on this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-secrets-of-validation

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]]> 565 no What Are The Rules You Filter Your Opportunities Through? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/what-are-the-rules-you-filter-your-opportunities-through Do you say "yes" to too many opportunities? If so, this episode is for you. On today's episode of Marketing Secrets, we hear another excerpt from the affiliate mastermind. We hear Garrett Pearson go over the rules he must follow in order to see a project through. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Each of Garrett's rules to follow to take on a new project, and why. And how the rules may vary in different businesses, but why it is important to figure out your own rules. So listen here to find out what rules a project must fall into for Garrett to take it on, and why you should be doing something similar with your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-are-the-rules-you-filter-your-opportunities-through Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:06:00 -0000 What Are The Rules You Filter Your Opportunities Through? full 28 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Do you say "yes" to too many opportunities? If so, this episode is for you. Do you say "yes" to too many opportunities? If so, this episode is for you. On today's episode of Marketing Secrets, we hear another excerpt from the affiliate mastermind. We hear Garrett Pearson go over the rules he must follow in order to see a project through. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode: Each of Garrett's rules to follow to take on a new project, and why. And how the rules may vary in different businesses, but why it is important to figure out your own rules. So listen here to find out what rules a project must fall into for Garrett to take it on, and why you should be doing something similar with your own business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-are-the-rules-you-filter-your-opportunities-through Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Do you say "yes" to too many opportunities? If so, this episode is for you.

On today's episode of Marketing Secrets, we hear another excerpt from the affiliate mastermind. We hear Garrett Pearson go over the rules he must follow in order to see a project through. Here are some of the awesome things to look for in this episode:

  • Each of Garrett's rules to follow to take on a new project, and why.
  • And how the rules may vary in different businesses, but why it is important to figure out your own rules.

So listen here to find out what rules a project must fall into for Garrett to take it on, and why you should be doing something similar with your own business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/what-are-the-rules-you-filter-your-opportunities-through

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]]> 538 no DON'T Become A Person Of Success... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/dont-become-a-person-of-success The harder you try to get it, the more success escapes you. On today's episode we hear another clip of John Lee Dumas talking about a quote from Albert Einstein that taught him not to chase success. Here are some of the cool things you will hear on this episode: Why being a person of value is more important than being a person of success. How being a person of value will lead to success. And what JLD's 3 special ingredients for success are. Listen hear to hear John Lee Dumas explain how being a person of value led to being a person of success. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/don-t-become-a-person-of-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 25 Aug 2017 22:00:00 -0000 DON'T Become A Person Of Success... full 27 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The harder you try to get it, the more success escapes you. The harder you try to get it, the more success escapes you. On today's episode we hear another clip of John Lee Dumas talking about a quote from Albert Einstein that taught him not to chase success. Here are some of the cool things you will hear on this episode: Why being a person of value is more important than being a person of success. How being a person of value will lead to success. And what JLD's 3 special ingredients for success are. Listen hear to hear John Lee Dumas explain how being a person of value led to being a person of success. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/don-t-become-a-person-of-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The harder you try to get it, the more success escapes you.

On today's episode we hear another clip of John Lee Dumas talking about a quote from Albert Einstein that taught him not to chase success. Here are some of the cool things you will hear on this episode:

  • Why being a person of value is more important than being a person of success.
  • How being a person of value will lead to success.
  • And what JLD's 3 special ingredients for success are.

Listen hear to hear John Lee Dumas explain how being a person of value led to being a person of success.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/don-t-become-a-person-of-success

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]]> 319 no Creating Your Perfect Listener Or Customer Avatar https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/creating-your-perfect-listener-or-customer-avatar In my 15 years of doing business, I've never heard this critical business concept explained so perfectly. On this episode of Marketing Secrets Russell lets you listen to how John Lee Dumas describes his ideal and perfect customer. Here are some cool things you will hear: Why you need to be able to describe your ideal customer in detail in order to appeal to them. Why it's a good idea to make decisions based on what your ideal customer would like. And why creating a few calls to action based on your customers needs will be beneficial. So listen here to find out what John Lee Dumas' perfect customer is like, and how you can nail yours down as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/creating-your-perfect-listener-or-customer-avatar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:51:00 -0000 Creating Your Perfect Listener Or Customer Avatar full 26 Russell Brunson | YAP Media In my 15 years of doing business, I've never heard this critical business concept explained so perfectly. In my 15 years of doing business, I've never heard this critical business concept explained so perfectly. On this episode of Marketing Secrets Russell lets you listen to how John Lee Dumas describes his ideal and perfect customer. Here are some cool things you will hear: Why you need to be able to describe your ideal customer in detail in order to appeal to them. Why it's a good idea to make decisions based on what your ideal customer would like. And why creating a few calls to action based on your customers needs will be beneficial. So listen here to find out what John Lee Dumas' perfect customer is like, and how you can nail yours down as well. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/creating-your-perfect-listener-or-customer-avatar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In my 15 years of doing business, I've never heard this critical business concept explained so perfectly.

On this episode of Marketing Secrets Russell lets you listen to how John Lee Dumas describes his ideal and perfect customer. Here are some cool things you will hear:

  • Why you need to be able to describe your ideal customer in detail in order to appeal to them.
  • Why it's a good idea to make decisions based on what your ideal customer would like.
  • And why creating a few calls to action based on your customers needs will be beneficial.

So listen here to find out what John Lee Dumas' perfect customer is like, and how you can nail yours down as well.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/creating-your-perfect-listener-or-customer-avatar

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]]> 536 no Road Trip Rant: It’s Time To Get Real About HOW To Have Success... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/road-trip-rant-its-time-to-get-real-about-how-to-have-success If you're not as successful yet as you'd like to be... I know why. This episode I went off on a 96 minute rant that'll get you back on track. On today's special road trip edition of the podcast Russell talks about some exciting events coming up, some personal development rules he follows, and why it's okay for people to outgrow Clickfunnels. Here are some of the cool things to look forward to in this episode: The viral video by the Harmon Brothers and the kind of party that is planned for it. Why Russell thinks studying, learning and geeking out on the marketing of your product is the key to success. Why it's okay to be greedy in the initial stages of your business. How building and growing a business is similar to making, being pregnant with, and birthing a baby. What the 3 steps toward personal development that Russell follows are. Why you need to be willing to take risks. What some Clickfunnels clients are doing that they shouldn't and why Russell is a little pissed off about it. And much, much more. So listen here to hear this extra long, extra informative and extra exciting episode of Marketing Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/road-trip-rant-it-s-time-to-get-real-about-how-to-have-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 15 Aug 2017 23:45:00 -0000 Road Trip Rant: It’s Time To Get Real About HOW To Have Success... full 25 Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you’re not as successful yet as you’d like to be… I know why. This episode I went off on a 96 minute rant that’ll get you back on track. If you're not as successful yet as you'd like to be... I know why. This episode I went off on a 96 minute rant that'll get you back on track. On today's special road trip edition of the podcast Russell talks about some exciting events coming up, some personal development rules he follows, and why it's okay for people to outgrow Clickfunnels. Here are some of the cool things to look forward to in this episode: The viral video by the Harmon Brothers and the kind of party that is planned for it. Why Russell thinks studying, learning and geeking out on the marketing of your product is the key to success. Why it's okay to be greedy in the initial stages of your business. How building and growing a business is similar to making, being pregnant with, and birthing a baby. What the 3 steps toward personal development that Russell follows are. Why you need to be willing to take risks. What some Clickfunnels clients are doing that they shouldn't and why Russell is a little pissed off about it. And much, much more. So listen here to hear this extra long, extra informative and extra exciting episode of Marketing Secrets. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/road-trip-rant-it-s-time-to-get-real-about-how-to-have-success Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you're not as successful yet as you'd like to be... I know why. This episode I went off on a 96 minute rant that'll get you back on track.

On today's special road trip edition of the podcast Russell talks about some exciting events coming up, some personal development rules he follows, and why it's okay for people to outgrow Clickfunnels. Here are some of the cool things to look forward to in this episode:

  • The viral video by the Harmon Brothers and the kind of party that is planned for it.
  • Why Russell thinks studying, learning and geeking out on the marketing of your product is the key to success.
  • Why it's okay to be greedy in the initial stages of your business.
  • How building and growing a business is similar to making, being pregnant with, and birthing a baby.
  • What the 3 steps toward personal development that Russell follows are.
  • Why you need to be willing to take risks.
  • What some Clickfunnels clients are doing that they shouldn't and why Russell is a little pissed off about it.
  • And much, much more.

So listen here to hear this extra long, extra informative and extra exciting episode of Marketing Secrets.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/road-trip-rant-it-s-time-to-get-real-about-how-to-have-success

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]]> 5958 no How To Grow From 10 To 100 Employees https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-grow-from-10-to-100-employees Behind the scenes of how we were able to profitably grow our company without taking on any capital. On this special episode with Brent Coppieters from Russell's team, they talk about some behind the scenes things that need to be figured out while you are growing and scaling your company. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode: How Brent has figured out how to structure teams with leads to make everything as efficient and smooth as possible. Why they hire Clickfunnels users to work on support teams in Clickfunnels. And why Russell wants everyone near him to max out their tax brackets. So listen here to find out some important behind the scenes things you have to think about when you're in the process of growing your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-grow-from-10-to-100-employees Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 10 Aug 2017 23:14:00 -0000 How To Grow From 10 To 100 Employees full 24 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Behind the scenes of how we were able to profitably grow our company without taking on any capital. Behind the scenes of how we were able to profitably grow our company without taking on any capital. On this special episode with Brent Coppieters from Russell's team, they talk about some behind the scenes things that need to be figured out while you are growing and scaling your company. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode: How Brent has figured out how to structure teams with leads to make everything as efficient and smooth as possible. Why they hire Clickfunnels users to work on support teams in Clickfunnels. And why Russell wants everyone near him to max out their tax brackets. So listen here to find out some important behind the scenes things you have to think about when you're in the process of growing your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-grow-from-10-to-100-employees Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Behind the scenes of how we were able to profitably grow our company without taking on any capital.

On this special episode with Brent Coppieters from Russell's team, they talk about some behind the scenes things that need to be figured out while you are growing and scaling your company. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode:

  • How Brent has figured out how to structure teams with leads to make everything as efficient and smooth as possible.
  • Why they hire Clickfunnels users to work on support teams in Clickfunnels.
  • And why Russell wants everyone near him to max out their tax brackets.

So listen here to find out some important behind the scenes things you have to think about when you're in the process of growing your business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-grow-from-10-to-100-employees

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]]> 1493 no Two Marketing Tricks From Some Old School Marketers https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/two-marketing-tricks-from-some-old-school-marketers There's no school like the old school... On today's episode Russell talks about plans to use what he has learned from TJ Rholeder while on an anniversary trip in Hawaii, in his business once he arrives home. Here are a few interesting things you will learn in this episode: How Russell is able to still learn while on an anniversary trip with his wife, and make plans for business once he's home. How Russell plans to use the 50,000 letters a week rule in his own business. And how he plans to add urgency and scarcity to his core products. So listen here to hear Russell's upcoming plans for his business, or watch the video version so you don't miss out on the beautiful scenery of Kauai. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/two-marketing-tricks-from-some-old-school-marketers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:10:00 -0000 Two Marketing Tricks From Some Old School Marketers full 23 Russell Brunson | YAP Media There's no school like the old school... There's no school like the old school... On today's episode Russell talks about plans to use what he has learned from TJ Rholeder while on an anniversary trip in Hawaii, in his business once he arrives home. Here are a few interesting things you will learn in this episode: How Russell is able to still learn while on an anniversary trip with his wife, and make plans for business once he's home. How Russell plans to use the 50,000 letters a week rule in his own business. And how he plans to add urgency and scarcity to his core products. So listen here to hear Russell's upcoming plans for his business, or watch the video version so you don't miss out on the beautiful scenery of Kauai. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/two-marketing-tricks-from-some-old-school-marketers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices There's no school like the old school...

On today's episode Russell talks about plans to use what he has learned from TJ Rholeder while on an anniversary trip in Hawaii, in his business once he arrives home. Here are a few interesting things you will learn in this episode:

  • How Russell is able to still learn while on an anniversary trip with his wife, and make plans for business once he's home.
  • How Russell plans to use the 50,000 letters a week rule in his own business.
  • And how he plans to add urgency and scarcity to his core products.

So listen here to hear Russell's upcoming plans for his business, or watch the video version so you don't miss out on the beautiful scenery of Kauai.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/two-marketing-tricks-from-some-old-school-marketers

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]]> 1069 no Beware These Two Things... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/beware-these-two-things These two things are probably keeping you from charging what you want and selling what you want. On this episode Russell talks about people pushing their own purchasing decisions on you, and why you shouldn't do that. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why you shouldn't push your own buying decisions on your customers, because people spend money differently. And why you need to be willing to spend the amount you are asking others to pay for your product. Hint, it all has to do with karma. So listen here to find out why you've got to spend money to make money and why you should never force others to spend money the same way you do. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/beware-these-two-things Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 07 Aug 2017 22:40:00 -0000 Beware These Two Things... full 22 Russell Brunson | YAP Media These two things are probably keeping you from charging what you want and selling what you want. These two things are probably keeping you from charging what you want and selling what you want. On this episode Russell talks about people pushing their own purchasing decisions on you, and why you shouldn't do that. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode: Why you shouldn't push your own buying decisions on your customers, because people spend money differently. And why you need to be willing to spend the amount you are asking others to pay for your product. Hint, it all has to do with karma. So listen here to find out why you've got to spend money to make money and why you should never force others to spend money the same way you do. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/beware-these-two-things Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices These two things are probably keeping you from charging what you want and selling what you want.

On this episode Russell talks about people pushing their own purchasing decisions on you, and why you shouldn't do that. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today's episode:

  • Why you shouldn't push your own buying decisions on your customers, because people spend money differently.
  • And why you need to be willing to spend the amount you are asking others to pay for your product. Hint, it all has to do with karma.

So listen here to find out why you've got to spend money to make money and why you should never force others to spend money the same way you do.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/beware-these-two-things

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]]> 586 no Does Being An Expert Really Help Grow Your Company? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/does-being-an-expert-really-help-grow-your-company I got a whole bunch of questions this weekend about this topic and I want to give you my two cents. On this episode Russell talks about listening to John Reese's new podcast and people thinking he was talking trash about Expert Secrets. Here are some things you will hear in this episode: Why despite a difference in opinion, Russell thinks that he and John Reese are both right about having (or not having) a personality on the front end of your business. How having a personality in your business can 10x your sales. And why an Amazon business is a good choice for someone that doesn't want to be the personality at the front of a business. So listen here to find out why Russell doesn't believe that John was talking trash, and how can both be right. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/does-being-an-expert-really-help-grow-your-company Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 01 Aug 2017 22:15:00 -0000 Does Being An Expert Really Help Grow Your Company? full 21 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I got a whole bunch of questions this weekend about this topic and I want to give you my two cents. I got a whole bunch of questions this weekend about this topic and I want to give you my two cents. On this episode Russell talks about listening to John Reese's new podcast and people thinking he was talking trash about Expert Secrets. Here are some things you will hear in this episode: Why despite a difference in opinion, Russell thinks that he and John Reese are both right about having (or not having) a personality on the front end of your business. How having a personality in your business can 10x your sales. And why an Amazon business is a good choice for someone that doesn't want to be the personality at the front of a business. So listen here to find out why Russell doesn't believe that John was talking trash, and how can both be right. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/does-being-an-expert-really-help-grow-your-company Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I got a whole bunch of questions this weekend about this topic and I want to give you my two cents.

On this episode Russell talks about listening to John Reese's new podcast and people thinking he was talking trash about Expert Secrets. Here are some things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why despite a difference in opinion, Russell thinks that he and John Reese are both right about having (or not having) a personality on the front end of your business.
  • How having a personality in your business can 10x your sales.
  • And why an Amazon business is a good choice for someone that doesn't want to be the personality at the front of a business.

So listen here to find out why Russell doesn't believe that John was talking trash, and how can both be right.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/does-being-an-expert-really-help-grow-your-company

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]]> 445 no You're One Funnel Away - Part 2 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/youre-one-funnel-away-part-2 You're just one funnel away... On this special two part episode you will hear the second part of Russell's "One Funnel Away" presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. In this episode you'll hear: How Russell nearly lost everything when his merchant accounts closed. Why Russell didn't know he hadn't paid Payroll taxes in a year and could have gone to jail. And how Russell turned it all around and along with Todd created Clickfunnels. So listen here to find out how Russell went from nearly bankrupt to amazing success with Clickfunnels within just a few years. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/you-re-one-funnel-away-part-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 31 Jul 2017 22:35:00 -0000 You're One Funnel Away - Part 2 full 20 Russell Brunson | YAP Media You’re just one funnel away… You're just one funnel away... On this special two part episode you will hear the second part of Russell's "One Funnel Away" presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. In this episode you'll hear: How Russell nearly lost everything when his merchant accounts closed. Why Russell didn't know he hadn't paid Payroll taxes in a year and could have gone to jail. And how Russell turned it all around and along with Todd created Clickfunnels. So listen here to find out how Russell went from nearly bankrupt to amazing success with Clickfunnels within just a few years. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/you-re-one-funnel-away-part-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices You're just one funnel away...

On this special two part episode you will hear the second part of Russell's "One Funnel Away" presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. In this episode you'll hear:

  • How Russell nearly lost everything when his merchant accounts closed.
  • Why Russell didn't know he hadn't paid Payroll taxes in a year and could have gone to jail.
  • And how Russell turned it all around and along with Todd created Clickfunnels.

So listen here to find out how Russell went from nearly bankrupt to amazing success with Clickfunnels within just a few years.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/you-re-one-funnel-away-part-2

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]]> 1776 no You're One Funnel Away - Part 1 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/youre-one-funnel-away-part-1 You're just one funnel away... On this special two part episode you will hear the first part of Russell's "One Funnel Away" presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. In this episode you'll hear: What the first product was that ever made Russell any money and how he only had to pay $20 for someone to write the software. How Russell first hired employees and what he learned about having to actually pay them. How Russell and his first team were able to make $55K in a two week period just in time to save Christmas. So listen to this first portion of Russell's story, and don't forget to come back for the second half. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/you-re-one-funnel-away-part-1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:34:00 -0000 You're One Funnel Away - Part 1 full 20 Russell Brunson | YAP Media You’re just one funnel away… You're just one funnel away... On this special two part episode you will hear the first part of Russell's "One Funnel Away" presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. In this episode you'll hear: What the first product was that ever made Russell any money and how he only had to pay $20 for someone to write the software. How Russell first hired employees and what he learned about having to actually pay them. How Russell and his first team were able to make $55K in a two week period just in time to save Christmas. So listen to this first portion of Russell's story, and don't forget to come back for the second half. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/you-re-one-funnel-away-part-1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices You're just one funnel away...

On this special two part episode you will hear the first part of Russell's "One Funnel Away" presentation from Funnel Hacking Live. In this episode you'll hear:

  • What the first product was that ever made Russell any money and how he only had to pay $20 for someone to write the software.
  • How Russell first hired employees and what he learned about having to actually pay them.
  • How Russell and his first team were able to make $55K in a two week period just in time to save Christmas.

So listen to this first portion of Russell's story, and don't forget to come back for the second half.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/you-re-one-funnel-away-part-1

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]]> 1783 no Your Own Personal Coaching Session With Russell https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/your-own-personal-coaching-session-with-russell Pretend this message was for you and take it to heart. On today's episode Russell and Steven talk about how they and others have been able to find their voice, figure out what they're good at and be successful. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode: Why no one is really successful overnight, you just don't see the previous work put into their craft. Why you need to figure out what part of the game you are good at and focus on that, then find others who are good at the other pieces. And also hear about some of Russell's inner circle members who have found success and why. So listen hear to find out what you need to do to make your business successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/your-own-personal-coaching-session-with-russell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Jul 2017 23:02:00 -0000 Your Own Personal Coaching Session With Russell full 19 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Pretend this message was for you and take it to heart. Pretend this message was for you and take it to heart. On today's episode Russell and Steven talk about how they and others have been able to find their voice, figure out what they're good at and be successful. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode: Why no one is really successful overnight, you just don't see the previous work put into their craft. Why you need to figure out what part of the game you are good at and focus on that, then find others who are good at the other pieces. And also hear about some of Russell's inner circle members who have found success and why. So listen hear to find out what you need to do to make your business successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/your-own-personal-coaching-session-with-russell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Pretend this message was for you and take it to heart.

On today's episode Russell and Steven talk about how they and others have been able to find their voice, figure out what they're good at and be successful. Here are some of the cool things you will hear in this episode:

  • Why no one is really successful overnight, you just don't see the previous work put into their craft.
  • Why you need to figure out what part of the game you are good at and focus on that, then find others who are good at the other pieces.
  • And also hear about some of Russell's inner circle members who have found success and why.

So listen hear to find out what you need to do to make your business successful.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/your-own-personal-coaching-session-with-russell

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]]> 1521 no Russell Answers 3 New Questions LIVE... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/russell-answers-3-new-questions-live If you missed Russell's LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode. Today we have another bonus episode of Marketing Secrets where Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including: How do you calculate how much to pay for a customer if you don't know your lifetime value? During Russell's Clickfunnels journey, what was his main source of inspiration? Is it always best to start at the backend of your funnel and build your highest value offer first? So listen to Russell answer these questions and drop the mic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 21 Jul 2017 21:35:00 -0000 Russell Answers 3 New Questions LIVE... bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you missed Russell’s LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode. If you missed Russell's LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode. Today we have another bonus episode of Marketing Secrets where Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including: How do you calculate how much to pay for a customer if you don't know your lifetime value? During Russell's Clickfunnels journey, what was his main source of inspiration? Is it always best to start at the backend of your funnel and build your highest value offer first? So listen to Russell answer these questions and drop the mic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you missed Russell's LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode.

Today we have another bonus episode of Marketing Secrets where Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including:

  • How do you calculate how much to pay for a customer if you don't know your lifetime value?
  • During Russell's Clickfunnels journey, what was his main source of inspiration?
  • Is it always best to start at the backend of your funnel and build your highest value offer first?

So listen to Russell answer these questions and drop the mic.

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]]> 959 no Russell Answers 10 New Questions LIVE... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/russell-answers-10-new-questions-live If you missed Russell's LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode. Today we have another bonus episode of Marketing Secrets where Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including: How to make a product more scalable when it's embarrassing for people to talk about. How Russell gets in the zone for a successful hack-a-thon. What Russell does to prepare to have a successful mindset. Ideas on how to warm up leads and have a conversation with a potential client. What the number one mistake is that people make with Clickfunnels and how to avoid it. Where to place an upsell on a call to action video. How Russell gets focused enough to get things done when he's a hyper buyer. How Russell manages giving back to good causes while also running his business. How Russell decides between making recorded content versus live content. How to target people on social media to buy your products when using a white labeling service. So listen to Russell drop the mic as he answers these questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:28:00 -0000 Russell Answers 10 New Questions LIVE... bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you missed Russell’s LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode. If you missed Russell's LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode. Today we have another bonus episode of Marketing Secrets where Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including: How to make a product more scalable when it's embarrassing for people to talk about. How Russell gets in the zone for a successful hack-a-thon. What Russell does to prepare to have a successful mindset. Ideas on how to warm up leads and have a conversation with a potential client. What the number one mistake is that people make with Clickfunnels and how to avoid it. Where to place an upsell on a call to action video. How Russell gets focused enough to get things done when he's a hyper buyer. How Russell manages giving back to good causes while also running his business. How Russell decides between making recorded content versus live content. How to target people on social media to buy your products when using a white labeling service. So listen to Russell drop the mic as he answers these questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you missed Russell's LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode.

Today we have another bonus episode of Marketing Secrets where Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including:

  • How to make a product more scalable when it's embarrassing for people to talk about.
  • How Russell gets in the zone for a successful hack-a-thon.
  • What Russell does to prepare to have a successful mindset.
  • Ideas on how to warm up leads and have a conversation with a potential client.
  • What the number one mistake is that people make with Clickfunnels and how to avoid it.
  • Where to place an upsell on a call to action video.
  • How Russell gets focused enough to get things done when he's a hyper buyer.
  • How Russell manages giving back to good causes while also running his business.
  • How Russell decides between making recorded content versus live content.
  • How to target people on social media to buy your products when using a white labeling service.

So listen to Russell drop the mic as he answers these questions.

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]]> 2775 no How To Make It Rain https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-make-it-rain A personal message to a friend who is struggling. On this extra long episode Russell talks to a friend from elementary school about how to go from being a technician and having a cap on his income to being a rainmaker and having an unlimited ceiling on his income. Here are some cool things you will hear on this episode: What the roles of the Entrepreneur, the technician, and the rainmakers are in the business hierarchy. Why getting really good at being a technician is not the way to have unlimited earning potential. How you can use your technician skills and apply them into being a rainmaker. So listen to Russell explain how to go from being technician to making it rain! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-make-it-rain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Jul 2017 22:15:00 -0000 How To Make It Rain full 18 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A personal message to a friend who is struggling. A personal message to a friend who is struggling. On this extra long episode Russell talks to a friend from elementary school about how to go from being a technician and having a cap on his income to being a rainmaker and having an unlimited ceiling on his income. Here are some cool things you will hear on this episode: What the roles of the Entrepreneur, the technician, and the rainmakers are in the business hierarchy. Why getting really good at being a technician is not the way to have unlimited earning potential. How you can use your technician skills and apply them into being a rainmaker. So listen to Russell explain how to go from being technician to making it rain! Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-make-it-rain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A personal message to a friend who is struggling.

On this extra long episode Russell talks to a friend from elementary school about how to go from being a technician and having a cap on his income to being a rainmaker and having an unlimited ceiling on his income. Here are some cool things you will hear on this episode:

  • What the roles of the Entrepreneur, the technician, and the rainmakers are in the business hierarchy.
  • Why getting really good at being a technician is not the way to have unlimited earning potential.
  • How you can use your technician skills and apply them into being a rainmaker.

So listen to Russell explain how to go from being technician to making it rain!

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-make-it-rain

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]]> 3165 no Bonus Interview - Superhuman Entrepreneur https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/bonus-interview-superhuman-entrepreneur Here is a bonus interview with Russell Brunson and Dr. Accurso. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:00:00 -0000 Bonus Interview - Superhuman Entrepreneur bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is a bonus interview with Russell Brunson and Dr. Accurso. Here is a bonus interview with Russell Brunson and Dr. Accurso. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is a bonus interview with Russell Brunson and Dr. Accurso.

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]]> 2607 no Why Are Vacations So Hard For Entrepreneurs? https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/why-are-vacations-so-hard-for-entrepreneurs I think I figured out why it's so hard for all of us to go on vacations. On today's episode of Marketing Secrets Russell talks about why, as an entrepreneur, it is so hard to go on vacation, and how he gets through it. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in this episode: What the difference between entrepreneurs and everyone else in regards to feeling happy or sad is. Why constantly having momentum and feeling like he's moving forward is so important to Russell. And how Russell gets through down time when he feels like he's doing nothing. So listen here to find out why entrepreneurs don't relate to being happy or sad. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-are-vacations-so-hard-for-entrepreneurs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:00:00 -0000 Why Are Vacations So Hard For Entrepreneurs? full 17 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I think I figured out why it's so hard for all of us to go on vacations. I think I figured out why it's so hard for all of us to go on vacations. On today's episode of Marketing Secrets Russell talks about why, as an entrepreneur, it is so hard to go on vacation, and how he gets through it. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in this episode: What the difference between entrepreneurs and everyone else in regards to feeling happy or sad is. Why constantly having momentum and feeling like he's moving forward is so important to Russell. And how Russell gets through down time when he feels like he's doing nothing. So listen here to find out why entrepreneurs don't relate to being happy or sad. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-are-vacations-so-hard-for-entrepreneurs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I think I figured out why it's so hard for all of us to go on vacations.

On today's episode of Marketing Secrets Russell talks about why, as an entrepreneur, it is so hard to go on vacation, and how he gets through it. Here are some of the cool things to listen for in this episode:

  • What the difference between entrepreneurs and everyone else in regards to feeling happy or sad is.
  • Why constantly having momentum and feeling like he's moving forward is so important to Russell.
  • And how Russell gets through down time when he feels like he's doing nothing.

So listen here to find out why entrepreneurs don't relate to being happy or sad.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/why-are-vacations-so-hard-for-entrepreneurs

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]]> 575 no Confusing Activity With Achievement https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/confusing-activity-with-achievement The secret to get people through the failure gap. On today's episode Russell talks about disagreeing with a designer on what a customer needs from Clickfunnels and how they were basically saying the complete opposite of each other. Here are some of the interesting things you'll hear in the this episode: Why listening to what customers want is a good idea, but how it can only take you so far. Why giving you're customer little wins on their way to their goal, will help them stick around. And some of the wins are that Russell is giving his customers to help keep them as members of Clickfunnels. So listen here to find out how to confuse activity with achievement to keep customers from leaving. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/confusing-activity-with-achievement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:00:00 -0000 Confusing Activity With Achievement full 16 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The secret to get people through the failure gap. The secret to get people through the failure gap. On today's episode Russell talks about disagreeing with a designer on what a customer needs from Clickfunnels and how they were basically saying the complete opposite of each other. Here are some of the interesting things you'll hear in the this episode: Why listening to what customers want is a good idea, but how it can only take you so far. Why giving you're customer little wins on their way to their goal, will help them stick around. And some of the wins are that Russell is giving his customers to help keep them as members of Clickfunnels. So listen here to find out how to confuse activity with achievement to keep customers from leaving. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/confusing-activity-with-achievement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The secret to get people through the failure gap.

On today's episode Russell talks about disagreeing with a designer on what a customer needs from Clickfunnels and how they were basically saying the complete opposite of each other. Here are some of the interesting things you'll hear in the this episode:

  • Why listening to what customers want is a good idea, but how it can only take you so far.
  • Why giving you're customer little wins on their way to their goal, will help them stick around.
  • And some of the wins are that Russell is giving his customers to help keep them as members of Clickfunnels.

So listen here to find out how to confuse activity with achievement to keep customers from leaving.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/confusing-activity-with-achievement

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]]> 590 no Russell’s REAL Reason “WHY” https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/russells-real-reason-why In our 30th episode of Funnel Friday's Russell and Jim take some time out from building funnels to chat about the Expert Secrets Book Launch and Russell getting his message out to the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 06 Jul 2017 21:58:00 -0000 Russell’s REAL Reason “WHY” bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media In our 30th episode of Funnel Friday's Russell and Jim take some time out from building funnels to chat about the Expert Secrets Book Launch and Russell getting his message out to the world. In our 30th episode of Funnel Friday's Russell and Jim take some time out from building funnels to chat about the Expert Secrets Book Launch and Russell getting his message out to the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In our 30th episode of Funnel Friday's Russell and Jim take some time out from building funnels to chat about the Expert Secrets Book Launch and Russell getting his message out to the world.

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]]> 2218 no Russell Answers 5 New Questions LIVE... https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/russell-answers-5-new-questions-live If you missed Russell's LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode. Today we have another bonus episode of Marketing Secrets where Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including: What are the most painful lessons Russell has learned to be able to build the amazing team he has today. How to get a huge Facebook following like Russell. If it's a good idea to try to influence someone in a 9 to 5 job and help them in their journey so that they become successful and quit that job. The process that goes into publishing a book besides actually writing or marketing. How to use a funnel to get people to come to a pre-launch signup event. So listen to hear Russell Drop the Mic as he answers these questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Jul 2017 21:05:00 -0000 Russell Answers 5 New Questions LIVE... bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media If you missed Russell’s LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode. If you missed Russell's LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode. Today we have another bonus episode of Marketing Secrets where Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including: What are the most painful lessons Russell has learned to be able to build the amazing team he has today. How to get a huge Facebook following like Russell. If it's a good idea to try to influence someone in a 9 to 5 job and help them in their journey so that they become successful and quit that job. The process that goes into publishing a book besides actually writing or marketing. How to use a funnel to get people to come to a pre-launch signup event. So listen to hear Russell Drop the Mic as he answers these questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices If you missed Russell's LIVE Q&A from www.dropthemicshow.com, you can hear this weeks questions on this episode.

Today we have another bonus episode of Marketing Secrets where Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including:

  • What are the most painful lessons Russell has learned to be able to build the amazing team he has today.
  • How to get a huge Facebook following like Russell.
  • If it's a good idea to try to influence someone in a 9 to 5 job and help them in their journey so that they become successful and quit that job.
  • The process that goes into publishing a book besides actually writing or marketing.
  • How to use a funnel to get people to come to a pre-launch signup event.

So listen to hear Russell Drop the Mic as he answers these questions.

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]]> 1534 no A Marketing Secret We Learned At Krispy Kreme Doughnuts https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-marketing-secret-we-learned-at-krispy-kreme-doughnuts Who know doughnuts could be so helpful... On today's episode Russell and his kids talk about why they like to go to Krispy Kreme doughnuts instead of some of the other doughnut shops. He also shares a story to relate why its good to show your customers behind the scenes of what you do. Here are some of the fun things you will hear in this episode: What it is about Krispy Kreme Doughnuts that stands out from their competitors. Why seeing how beer is made inspired a marketing guy to put it in their commercials. And what Russell does to give his customers a similar experience. So listen to Russell and his kids talk about this cool way to market your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/a-marketing-secret-we-learned-at-krispy-kreme-doughnuts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 03 Jul 2017 22:22:00 -0000 A Marketing Secret We Learned At Krispy Kreme Doughnuts full 15 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Who know doughnuts could be so helpful... Who know doughnuts could be so helpful... On today's episode Russell and his kids talk about why they like to go to Krispy Kreme doughnuts instead of some of the other doughnut shops. He also shares a story to relate why its good to show your customers behind the scenes of what you do. Here are some of the fun things you will hear in this episode: What it is about Krispy Kreme Doughnuts that stands out from their competitors. Why seeing how beer is made inspired a marketing guy to put it in their commercials. And what Russell does to give his customers a similar experience. So listen to Russell and his kids talk about this cool way to market your business. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/a-marketing-secret-we-learned-at-krispy-kreme-doughnuts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Who know doughnuts could be so helpful...

On today's episode Russell and his kids talk about why they like to go to Krispy Kreme doughnuts instead of some of the other doughnut shops. He also shares a story to relate why its good to show your customers behind the scenes of what you do. Here are some of the fun things you will hear in this episode:

  • What it is about Krispy Kreme Doughnuts that stands out from their competitors.
  • Why seeing how beer is made inspired a marketing guy to put it in their commercials.
  • And what Russell does to give his customers a similar experience.

So listen to Russell and his kids talk about this cool way to market your business.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/a-marketing-secret-we-learned-at-krispy-kreme-doughnuts

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]]> 509 no How To Increase Your Tips (And Your Profit Margins) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-increase-your-tips-and-your-profit-margins What was going through my mind when tipping at IHOP. On today's episode Russell talks about going out to breakfast with his daughter for her birthday and how watching the server work so hard to make a small wage made Russell wonder why he didn't work somewhere that he could make more money, and how that relates to being an entrepreneur. Here are a few interesting things in this episode: How Russell would increase his ticket sales if he were still a server. How waiters increasing ticket sales relates to being an entrepreneur. And why if you can't be the cheapest in your industry, you should be the most expensive. So listen to Russell's awesome advice on how to increase your ticket sales and make more profit for yourself. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-increase-your-tips-and-your-profit-margins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 30 Jun 2017 23:27:00 -0000 How To Increase Your Tips (And Your Profit Margins) full 14 Russell Brunson | YAP Media What was going through my mind when tipping at IHOP. What was going through my mind when tipping at IHOP. On today's episode Russell talks about going out to breakfast with his daughter for her birthday and how watching the server work so hard to make a small wage made Russell wonder why he didn't work somewhere that he could make more money, and how that relates to being an entrepreneur. Here are a few interesting things in this episode: How Russell would increase his ticket sales if he were still a server. How waiters increasing ticket sales relates to being an entrepreneur. And why if you can't be the cheapest in your industry, you should be the most expensive. So listen to Russell's awesome advice on how to increase your ticket sales and make more profit for yourself. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-increase-your-tips-and-your-profit-margins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices What was going through my mind when tipping at IHOP.

On today's episode Russell talks about going out to breakfast with his daughter for her birthday and how watching the server work so hard to make a small wage made Russell wonder why he didn't work somewhere that he could make more money, and how that relates to being an entrepreneur. Here are a few interesting things in this episode:

  • How Russell would increase his ticket sales if he were still a server.
  • How waiters increasing ticket sales relates to being an entrepreneur.
  • And why if you can't be the cheapest in your industry, you should be the most expensive.

So listen to Russell's awesome advice on how to increase your ticket sales and make more profit for yourself.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-increase-your-tips-and-your-profit-margins

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]]> 805 no How To Succeed When You Have No Resources https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-succeed-when-you-have-no-resources Why having resources will actually hurt you as an entrepreneur and how to become more resourceful. On today's episode Russell comes to you from his favorite place on Earth, Pirates Cove. He gives a mini tour of the premises and talks about how he was able to afford the $100,000 that it took to rent it by being resourceful. Here are some of the cool things in this episode: Find out how Russell was introduced to Pirates Cove and what he had to do to be able to afford to initially bring his family and friends there. Find out the difference between having resources and being resourceful. They sound similar, but they are not the same. And hear a rarely told story of how Russell was able to be resourceful early in his career to be able to afford to make his first idea come to fruition. So listen up and enjoy as Russell talks about how he was able to be resourceful enough to be at Pirates Cove without spending a single penny. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-succeed-when-you-have-no-resources Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:50:00 -0000 How To Succeed When You Have No Resources full 13 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Why having resources will actually hurt you as an entrepreneur and how to become more resourceful. Why having resources will actually hurt you as an entrepreneur and how to become more resourceful. On today's episode Russell comes to you from his favorite place on Earth, Pirates Cove. He gives a mini tour of the premises and talks about how he was able to afford the $100,000 that it took to rent it by being resourceful. Here are some of the cool things in this episode: Find out how Russell was introduced to Pirates Cove and what he had to do to be able to afford to initially bring his family and friends there. Find out the difference between having resources and being resourceful. They sound similar, but they are not the same. And hear a rarely told story of how Russell was able to be resourceful early in his career to be able to afford to make his first idea come to fruition. So listen up and enjoy as Russell talks about how he was able to be resourceful enough to be at Pirates Cove without spending a single penny. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-succeed-when-you-have-no-resources Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Why having resources will actually hurt you as an entrepreneur and how to become more resourceful.

On today's episode Russell comes to you from his favorite place on Earth, Pirates Cove. He gives a mini tour of the premises and talks about how he was able to afford the $100,000 that it took to rent it by being resourceful. Here are some of the cool things in this episode:

  • Find out how Russell was introduced to Pirates Cove and what he had to do to be able to afford to initially bring his family and friends there.
  • Find out the difference between having resources and being resourceful. They sound similar, but they are not the same.
  • And hear a rarely told story of how Russell was able to be resourceful early in his career to be able to afford to make his first idea come to fruition.

So listen up and enjoy as Russell talks about how he was able to be resourceful enough to be at Pirates Cove without spending a single penny.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-succeed-when-you-have-no-resources

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]]> 694 no Live Q&A With Russell Brunson https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/live-qa-with-russell-brunson Segment recorded from the "Drop The Mic Show" where Russell takes 10 questions from funnel hackers and answers them live. On this bonus episode of Marketing Secrets Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including: How teenagers can use Clickfunnels to become more financially independent. How to find out if there is a market for your product. How Russell keeps his sanity and keeps his family happy while being a busy entrepreneur. How to move your business into higher ticket sales. How and where to put in an upsell in a supplement funnel. Whether or not you should be running multiple businesses or focusing on one core business. What one thing made Russell's business explode. What to do when you launch a funnel that doesn't work out. How to go about raising money for a non-profit organization. How to go from marketing just a product to marketing an awesome experience to be able to charge more. So listen in to hear Russell drop the mic as he answers these questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:21:00 -0000 Live Q&A With Russell Brunson bonus Russell Brunson | YAP Media BONUS EPISODE - Segment recorded from the “Drop The Mic Show” where Russell takes 10 questions from funnel hackers and answers them live. Segment recorded from the "Drop The Mic Show" where Russell takes 10 questions from funnel hackers and answers them live. On this bonus episode of Marketing Secrets Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including: How teenagers can use Clickfunnels to become more financially independent. How to find out if there is a market for your product. How Russell keeps his sanity and keeps his family happy while being a busy entrepreneur. How to move your business into higher ticket sales. How and where to put in an upsell in a supplement funnel. Whether or not you should be running multiple businesses or focusing on one core business. What one thing made Russell's business explode. What to do when you launch a funnel that doesn't work out. How to go about raising money for a non-profit organization. How to go from marketing just a product to marketing an awesome experience to be able to charge more. So listen in to hear Russell drop the mic as he answers these questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Segment recorded from the "Drop The Mic Show" where Russell takes 10 questions from funnel hackers and answers them live.

On this bonus episode of Marketing Secrets Russell answers questions about marketing from other funnel hackers, including:

  • How teenagers can use Clickfunnels to become more financially independent.
  • How to find out if there is a market for your product.
  • How Russell keeps his sanity and keeps his family happy while being a busy entrepreneur.
  • How to move your business into higher ticket sales.
  • How and where to put in an upsell in a supplement funnel.
  • Whether or not you should be running multiple businesses or focusing on one core business.
  • What one thing made Russell's business explode.
  • What to do when you launch a funnel that doesn't work out.
  • How to go about raising money for a non-profit organization.
  • How to go from marketing just a product to marketing an awesome experience to be able to charge more.

So listen in to hear Russell drop the mic as he answers these questions.

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]]> 3413 no The #1 Way To Know If You're Going To Succeed Or Fail Before You Even Start https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-1-way-to-know-if-youre-going-to-succeed-or-fail-before-you-even-start After working with tens of thousands of entrepreneurs, there is one common thing I've found that will instantly let me know if you'll succeed or fail. On today's episode Russell talks about how he could tell with 100% certainty within seconds of meeting an entrepreneur if they would be successful. Here are some of the interesting things to listen for in this episode: What quality does Russell see that successful entrepreneurs have and unsuccessful marketers are missing. Why Russell thinks that most people don't want to take the leap required to be successful. And find out how all this can also relate to other areas in your life besides business. So listen below to find out if you possess the quality that equals success or if you need to switch your focus in order to become successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-way-to-know-if-you-re-going-to-succeed-or-fail-before-you-even-start Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 14 Jun 2017 21:52:00 -0000 The #1 Way To Know If You're Going To Succeed Or Fail Before You Even Start full 12 Russell Brunson | YAP Media After working with tens of thousands of entrepreneurs, there is one common thing I’ve found that will instantly let me know if you’ll succeed or fail. After working with tens of thousands of entrepreneurs, there is one common thing I've found that will instantly let me know if you'll succeed or fail. On today's episode Russell talks about how he could tell with 100% certainty within seconds of meeting an entrepreneur if they would be successful. Here are some of the interesting things to listen for in this episode: What quality does Russell see that successful entrepreneurs have and unsuccessful marketers are missing. Why Russell thinks that most people don't want to take the leap required to be successful. And find out how all this can also relate to other areas in your life besides business. So listen below to find out if you possess the quality that equals success or if you need to switch your focus in order to become successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-way-to-know-if-you-re-going-to-succeed-or-fail-before-you-even-start Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices After working with tens of thousands of entrepreneurs, there is one common thing I've found that will instantly let me know if you'll succeed or fail.

On today's episode Russell talks about how he could tell with 100% certainty within seconds of meeting an entrepreneur if they would be successful. Here are some of the interesting things to listen for in this episode:

  • What quality does Russell see that successful entrepreneurs have and unsuccessful marketers are missing.
  • Why Russell thinks that most people don't want to take the leap required to be successful.
  • And find out how all this can also relate to other areas in your life besides business.

So listen below to find out if you possess the quality that equals success or if you need to switch your focus in order to become successful.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-1-way-to-know-if-you-re-going-to-succeed-or-fail-before-you-even-start

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]]> 825 no Using Your Unique Abilities And Others To Get Crap Done Fast https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/using-your-unique-abilities-and-others-to-get-crap-done-fast How I got more done today then most people will get done in the next three months, and I did it by leveraging this one simple concept. On today's episode Russell is hanging out in a tent in the office because his family is out of town. He talks about how he gets stuff done quickly. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell is sleeping on a cot, in a tent in his office instead of at his house. Find out why it's important to find people with unique abilities to help you complete tasks quickly. And listen carefully and you may hear Russell read a newly finished script for the Etison Editor inside of Clickfunnels. So listen below to find out how over the last 14 years Russell was able to build up a good enough team to get tasks completed in a day that might take another company an entire quarter to complete. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/using-your-unique-abilities-and-others-to-get-crap-done-fast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 13 Jun 2017 22:03:00 -0000 Using Your Unique Abilities And Others To Get Crap Done Fast full 11 Russell Brunson | YAP Media How I got more done today then most people will get done in the next three months, and I did it by leveraging this one simple concept. How I got more done today then most people will get done in the next three months, and I did it by leveraging this one simple concept. On today's episode Russell is hanging out in a tent in the office because his family is out of town. He talks about how he gets stuff done quickly. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why Russell is sleeping on a cot, in a tent in his office instead of at his house. Find out why it's important to find people with unique abilities to help you complete tasks quickly. And listen carefully and you may hear Russell read a newly finished script for the Etison Editor inside of Clickfunnels. So listen below to find out how over the last 14 years Russell was able to build up a good enough team to get tasks completed in a day that might take another company an entire quarter to complete. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/using-your-unique-abilities-and-others-to-get-crap-done-fast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices How I got more done today then most people will get done in the next three months, and I did it by leveraging this one simple concept.

On today's episode Russell is hanging out in a tent in the office because his family is out of town. He talks about how he gets stuff done quickly. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out why Russell is sleeping on a cot, in a tent in his office instead of at his house.
  • Find out why it's important to find people with unique abilities to help you complete tasks quickly.
  • And listen carefully and you may hear Russell read a newly finished script for the Etison Editor inside of Clickfunnels.

So listen below to find out how over the last 14 years Russell was able to build up a good enough team to get tasks completed in a day that might take another company an entire quarter to complete.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/using-your-unique-abilities-and-others-to-get-crap-done-fast

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]]> 829 no Conversation Domination And The Dream 100 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/conversation-domination-and-the-dream-100 People who read blogs... read blogs, people who watch videos... watch videos, etc... On today's episode Russell talks about figuring out a new formula for conversation domination on every platform. He also mentions the cool new way he's doing coaching. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out what cool new way Russell is doing coaching with his Inner Circle members. Hear what Russell just realized while trying to build his Dream 100 list by looking at his email list and Facebook list side by side. And see what the simple solution is to dominating the conversation in every platform. So listen below to find out why its important to realize that podcast listeners listen to podcasts. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/conversation-domination-and-the-dream-100 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 12 Jun 2017 20:54:00 -0000 Conversation Domination And The Dream 100 full 10 Russell Brunson | YAP Media People who read blogs… read blogs, people who watch videos… watch videos, etc… People who read blogs... read blogs, people who watch videos... watch videos, etc... On today's episode Russell talks about figuring out a new formula for conversation domination on every platform. He also mentions the cool new way he's doing coaching. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out what cool new way Russell is doing coaching with his Inner Circle members. Hear what Russell just realized while trying to build his Dream 100 list by looking at his email list and Facebook list side by side. And see what the simple solution is to dominating the conversation in every platform. So listen below to find out why its important to realize that podcast listeners listen to podcasts. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/conversation-domination-and-the-dream-100 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices People who read blogs... read blogs, people who watch videos... watch videos, etc...

On today's episode Russell talks about figuring out a new formula for conversation domination on every platform. He also mentions the cool new way he's doing coaching. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode:

  • Find out what cool new way Russell is doing coaching with his Inner Circle members.
  • Hear what Russell just realized while trying to build his Dream 100 list by looking at his email list and Facebook list side by side.
  • And see what the simple solution is to dominating the conversation in every platform.

So listen below to find out why its important to realize that podcast listeners listen to podcasts.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/conversation-domination-and-the-dream-100

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]]> 746 no Entrepreneurial Scars https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/entrepreneurial-scars Why these things can and should move you forward as opposed to pulling you backwards. On this episode Russell talks about having entrepreneurial scars and why you should embrace them rather than be embarrassed of them. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in today's episode: Why it's okay for entrepreneurs to fail and how to embrace your failures. Why taking risks and failing can be important for the future success of your business. And why Russell thinks bankruptcy was not only a gift from our founding fathers, but also a gift from God. So listen below to find out why it's okay to fail, as long as you are able to learn from your mistakes. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/entrepreneurial-scars Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 08 Jun 2017 22:54:00 -0000 Entrepreneurial Scars full 9 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Why these things can and should move you forward as opposed to pulling you backwards. Why these things can and should move you forward as opposed to pulling you backwards. On this episode Russell talks about having entrepreneurial scars and why you should embrace them rather than be embarrassed of them. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in today's episode: Why it's okay for entrepreneurs to fail and how to embrace your failures. Why taking risks and failing can be important for the future success of your business. And why Russell thinks bankruptcy was not only a gift from our founding fathers, but also a gift from God. So listen below to find out why it's okay to fail, as long as you are able to learn from your mistakes. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/entrepreneurial-scars Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Why these things can and should move you forward as opposed to pulling you backwards.

On this episode Russell talks about having entrepreneurial scars and why you should embrace them rather than be embarrassed of them. Here are some of the insightful things to listen for in today's episode:

  • Why it's okay for entrepreneurs to fail and how to embrace your failures.
  • Why taking risks and failing can be important for the future success of your business.
  • And why Russell thinks bankruptcy was not only a gift from our founding fathers, but also a gift from God.

So listen below to find out why it's okay to fail, as long as you are able to learn from your mistakes.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/entrepreneurial-scars

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]]> 922 no A Little Known Marketing Secret I Learned From Seinfeld... (And It Has Nothing To Do With Email) https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/a-little-known-marketing-secret-i-learned-from-seinfeld-and-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-email Who was J. Peterman and why should you care? On this episode Russell talks about taking inspiration for writing good copy from the J. Peterman catalog (of Seinfeld fame). Here are some of the fascinating things you will hear in this episode: Learn something new about Seinfeld, like that the J. Peterman catalog was actually a real catalog that really had great copy. Hear a couple of excerpts from the catalog that are amazing and see for yourself why it's so awesome. And find out how Russell made a book about copywriting seem sexy. So listen below to learn something new about Seinfeld that you can tell all your friends the next time you watch the show, while also being inspired by the amazing copy contained in the real catalog. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/a-little-known-marketing-secret-i-learned-from-seinfeld-and-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-email Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:02:00 -0000 A Little Known Marketing Secret I Learned From Seinfeld... (And It Has Nothing To Do With Email) full 8 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Who was J. Peterman and why should you care? Who was J. Peterman and why should you care? On this episode Russell talks about taking inspiration for writing good copy from the J. Peterman catalog (of Seinfeld fame). Here are some of the fascinating things you will hear in this episode: Learn something new about Seinfeld, like that the J. Peterman catalog was actually a real catalog that really had great copy. Hear a couple of excerpts from the catalog that are amazing and see for yourself why it's so awesome. And find out how Russell made a book about copywriting seem sexy. So listen below to learn something new about Seinfeld that you can tell all your friends the next time you watch the show, while also being inspired by the amazing copy contained in the real catalog. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/a-little-known-marketing-secret-i-learned-from-seinfeld-and-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-email Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Who was J. Peterman and why should you care?

On this episode Russell talks about taking inspiration for writing good copy from the J. Peterman catalog (of Seinfeld fame). Here are some of the fascinating things you will hear in this episode:

  • Learn something new about Seinfeld, like that the J. Peterman catalog was actually a real catalog that really had great copy.
  • Hear a couple of excerpts from the catalog that are amazing and see for yourself why it's so awesome.
  • And find out how Russell made a book about copywriting seem sexy.

So listen below to learn something new about Seinfeld that you can tell all your friends the next time you watch the show, while also being inspired by the amazing copy contained in the real catalog.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/a-little-known-marketing-secret-i-learned-from-seinfeld-and-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-email

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]]> 583 no Cool Stuff We Learned During Our "7 Day Launch" https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/cool-stuff-we-learned-during-our-7-day-launch Here is a recap of a 7 day internal launch that made over a million dollars and what we learned along the way. On today's episode Russell gives the details of the 7 day launch strategy and what worked and what didn't. Here are some insightful things you will here on this episode: A step by step guide to what Russell did for each of the 7 days in the launch. What mistakes were made and how Russell and his team were able to make tweaks on the fly to make it better. And what Russell learned from the experience and how it can help others with their own businesses. So listen below to get a cool step by step guide into the 7 day launch. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/cool-stuff-we-learned-during-our-7-day-launch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Fri, 02 Jun 2017 17:49:00 -0000 Cool Stuff We Learned During Our "7 Day Launch" full 7 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Here is a recap of a 7 day internal launch that made over a million dollars and what we learned along the way. Here is a recap of a 7 day internal launch that made over a million dollars and what we learned along the way. On today's episode Russell gives the details of the 7 day launch strategy and what worked and what didn't. Here are some insightful things you will here on this episode: A step by step guide to what Russell did for each of the 7 days in the launch. What mistakes were made and how Russell and his team were able to make tweaks on the fly to make it better. And what Russell learned from the experience and how it can help others with their own businesses. So listen below to get a cool step by step guide into the 7 day launch. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/cool-stuff-we-learned-during-our-7-day-launch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Here is a recap of a 7 day internal launch that made over a million dollars and what we learned along the way.

On today's episode Russell gives the details of the 7 day launch strategy and what worked and what didn't. Here are some insightful things you will here on this episode:

  • A step by step guide to what Russell did for each of the 7 days in the launch.
  • What mistakes were made and how Russell and his team were able to make tweaks on the fly to make it better.
  • And what Russell learned from the experience and how it can help others with their own businesses.

So listen below to get a cool step by step guide into the 7 day launch.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/cool-stuff-we-learned-during-our-7-day-launch

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]]> 1068 no How To Do SEO The Right Way By Using The Dream 100 https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-do-seo-the-right-way-by-using-the-dream-100 The dream 100 isn't just for JV partners... it's the key to ALL traffic. On this episode of Marketing Secrets Russell talks about immersing himself in SEO stuff over the weekend and how that has got him thinking about getting creative about getting traffic. Here are some of the cool things he mentions in this episode: How you can use Dream 100 strategies with people who write magazine articles to get more traffic. How you can find out who is dominating each platform (i.e YouTube, Instagram) and use them to build your Dream 100. And find out why Russell is looking at strategies he used 10 years ago to help gain traffic. So listen below to hear how to do SEO the right way using the Dream 100. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-do-seo-the-right-way-by-using-the-dream-100 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 31 May 2017 21:31:00 -0000 How To Do SEO The Right Way By Using The Dream 100 full 6 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The dream 100 isn’t just for JV partners… it’s the key to ALL traffic. The dream 100 isn't just for JV partners... it's the key to ALL traffic. On this episode of Marketing Secrets Russell talks about immersing himself in SEO stuff over the weekend and how that has got him thinking about getting creative about getting traffic. Here are some of the cool things he mentions in this episode: How you can use Dream 100 strategies with people who write magazine articles to get more traffic. How you can find out who is dominating each platform (i.e YouTube, Instagram) and use them to build your Dream 100. And find out why Russell is looking at strategies he used 10 years ago to help gain traffic. So listen below to hear how to do SEO the right way using the Dream 100. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/how-to-do-seo-the-right-way-by-using-the-dream-100 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The dream 100 isn't just for JV partners... it's the key to ALL traffic.

On this episode of Marketing Secrets Russell talks about immersing himself in SEO stuff over the weekend and how that has got him thinking about getting creative about getting traffic. Here are some of the cool things he mentions in this episode:

  • How you can use Dream 100 strategies with people who write magazine articles to get more traffic.
  • How you can find out who is dominating each platform (i.e YouTube, Instagram) and use them to build your Dream 100.
  • And find out why Russell is looking at strategies he used 10 years ago to help gain traffic.

So listen below to hear how to do SEO the right way using the Dream 100.

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]]> 794 no You Gotta Have Faith... Marketing Faith https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/you-gotta-have-faith-marketing-faith Without this, what's the point of even trying? On today's episode Russell talks about why you have to have faith in yourself first in order to be a true entrepreneur because nothing is guaranteed. Here are some of the interesting things in this episode: Why Russell won't give a friend the answers to why his product isn't selling. Why Russell believes that you have to take a leap of faith with your business first, in order for it to be successful. And why Russell thinks life would be boring if everything were guaranteed to work out. So listen below to find out why it's so important to take a leap of faith. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/you-gotta-have-faith-marketing-faith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Tue, 30 May 2017 21:12:00 -0000 You Gotta Have Faith... Marketing Faith full 5 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Without this, what's the point of even trying? Without this, what's the point of even trying? On today's episode Russell talks about why you have to have faith in yourself first in order to be a true entrepreneur because nothing is guaranteed. Here are some of the interesting things in this episode: Why Russell won't give a friend the answers to why his product isn't selling. Why Russell believes that you have to take a leap of faith with your business first, in order for it to be successful. And why Russell thinks life would be boring if everything were guaranteed to work out. So listen below to find out why it's so important to take a leap of faith. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/you-gotta-have-faith-marketing-faith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Without this, what's the point of even trying?

On today's episode Russell talks about why you have to have faith in yourself first in order to be a true entrepreneur because nothing is guaranteed. Here are some of the interesting things in this episode:

  • Why Russell won't give a friend the answers to why his product isn't selling.
  • Why Russell believes that you have to take a leap of faith with your business first, in order for it to be successful.
  • And why Russell thinks life would be boring if everything were guaranteed to work out.

So listen below to find out why it's so important to take a leap of faith.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/you-gotta-have-faith-marketing-faith

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]]> 679 no Planting Seeds Of Doubt https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/planting-seeds-of-doubt A cool underground way to overcome your competitors. On today's episode Russell talks about planting seeds of doubt about his competitors in the minds of potential customers. He explains how he does it, and why it makes it not a matter of if they become Clickfunnels customers, but when. Here are some interesting things in this episode: Why it's okay to attack your competitors as long as they are number one and you are number two, but not okay once you become number one. How you can plant seeds of doubt so that eventually you will get the customer. And how all of that is similar to how people compete in sports. So listen below to learn how to plant seeds of doubt about your competitors so you can eventually win over the customer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/planting-seeds-of-doubt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Thu, 25 May 2017 23:22:00 -0000 Planting Seeds Of Doubt full 4 Russell Brunson | YAP Media A cool underground way to overcome your competitors. A cool underground way to overcome your competitors. On today's episode Russell talks about planting seeds of doubt about his competitors in the minds of potential customers. He explains how he does it, and why it makes it not a matter of if they become Clickfunnels customers, but when. Here are some interesting things in this episode: Why it's okay to attack your competitors as long as they are number one and you are number two, but not okay once you become number one. How you can plant seeds of doubt so that eventually you will get the customer. And how all of that is similar to how people compete in sports. So listen below to learn how to plant seeds of doubt about your competitors so you can eventually win over the customer. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/planting-seeds-of-doubt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A cool underground way to overcome your competitors.

On today's episode Russell talks about planting seeds of doubt about his competitors in the minds of potential customers. He explains how he does it, and why it makes it not a matter of if they become Clickfunnels customers, but when. Here are some interesting things in this episode:

  • Why it's okay to attack your competitors as long as they are number one and you are number two, but not okay once you become number one.
  • How you can plant seeds of doubt so that eventually you will get the customer.
  • And how all of that is similar to how people compete in sports.

So listen below to learn how to plant seeds of doubt about your competitors so you can eventually win over the customer.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/planting-seeds-of-doubt

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]]> 777 no The What And How https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/the-what-and-how The secret from going from zero to a million dollars is all about identifying what it is you're selling and how you're selling it. On this episode Russell talks about being able to have the "What" you're selling and "How" you're selling it, to be able to go from $0 to $1 million. Here are some of the awesome things Russell talks about in today's episode: Why you need to be doing a webinar weekly that you can tweak and change to be able to figure out what you should be selling and how you should be selling it. How to use your creativity as an entrepreneur to change things to what your customers want. And why once you have figured out the "what" and "how", making a million dollars will be fast and easy. So listen below to find out why figuring out the "what" to sell and "how" to sell it can take you from 1 to 7 figures a year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-what-and-how Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 22 May 2017 23:22:00 -0000 The What And How full 3 Russell Brunson | YAP Media The secret from going from zero to a million dollars is all about identifying what it is you’re selling and how you’re selling it. The secret from going from zero to a million dollars is all about identifying what it is you're selling and how you're selling it. On this episode Russell talks about being able to have the "What" you're selling and "How" you're selling it, to be able to go from $0 to $1 million. Here are some of the awesome things Russell talks about in today's episode: Why you need to be doing a webinar weekly that you can tweak and change to be able to figure out what you should be selling and how you should be selling it. How to use your creativity as an entrepreneur to change things to what your customers want. And why once you have figured out the "what" and "how", making a million dollars will be fast and easy. So listen below to find out why figuring out the "what" to sell and "how" to sell it can take you from 1 to 7 figures a year. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-what-and-how Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices The secret from going from zero to a million dollars is all about identifying what it is you're selling and how you're selling it.

On this episode Russell talks about being able to have the "What" you're selling and "How" you're selling it, to be able to go from $0 to $1 million. Here are some of the awesome things Russell talks about in today's episode:

  • Why you need to be doing a webinar weekly that you can tweak and change to be able to figure out what you should be selling and how you should be selling it.
  • How to use your creativity as an entrepreneur to change things to what your customers want.
  • And why once you have figured out the "what" and "how", making a million dollars will be fast and easy.

So listen below to find out why figuring out the "what" to sell and "how" to sell it can take you from 1 to 7 figures a year.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/the-what-and-how

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]]> 853 no How To Turn 3,000 Email Clicks Into 300,000 Visitors https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-turn-3000-email-clicks-into-300000-visitors I had a huge shift in my thinking about email marketing this weekend... let me show you how it works. On today's episode Russell talks about how he plans to use email as an amplifier in the future for Facebook Live videos in order to get more clicks. Here are some of the awesome things he talks about in this episode: What he has learned from watching Gary Vaynerchuk and how he's implementing it into his own stuff. Why it's important to master all the social media platforms available. And how he plans to use email and Facebook Messenger as an amplifier to be able to get more views and clicks per video he puts up on Facebook. So listen below to find out what Russell thinks is in the future for email, that will make having a large list even better. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/How-To-Turn-3000-Email-Clicks-Into-300000-Visitors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 17 May 2017 20:09:00 -0000 How To Turn 3,000 Email Clicks Into 300,000 Visitors full 2 Russell Brunson | YAP Media I had a huge shift in my thinking about email marketing this weekend… let me show you how it works. I had a huge shift in my thinking about email marketing this weekend... let me show you how it works. On today's episode Russell talks about how he plans to use email as an amplifier in the future for Facebook Live videos in order to get more clicks. Here are some of the awesome things he talks about in this episode: What he has learned from watching Gary Vaynerchuk and how he's implementing it into his own stuff. Why it's important to master all the social media platforms available. And how he plans to use email and Facebook Messenger as an amplifier to be able to get more views and clicks per video he puts up on Facebook. So listen below to find out what Russell thinks is in the future for email, that will make having a large list even better. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/How-To-Turn-3000-Email-Clicks-Into-300000-Visitors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices I had a huge shift in my thinking about email marketing this weekend... let me show you how it works.

On today's episode Russell talks about how he plans to use email as an amplifier in the future for Facebook Live videos in order to get more clicks. Here are some of the awesome things he talks about in this episode:

  • What he has learned from watching Gary Vaynerchuk and how he's implementing it into his own stuff.
  • Why it's important to master all the social media platforms available.
  • And how he plans to use email and Facebook Messenger as an amplifier to be able to get more views and clicks per video he puts up on Facebook.

So listen below to find out what Russell thinks is in the future for email, that will make having a large list even better.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/How-To-Turn-3000-Email-Clicks-Into-300000-Visitors

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]]> 1145 no How To Outspend EVERYONE Profitably https://marketingsecrets.libsyn.com/how-to-outspend-everyone-profitably Marketing Secret #1 will explain the concept of "whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins" and how you can do it quickly without raising money. On the first episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast, Russell talks about the first secret of marketing, which is Don't Cheat! Here are some of the awesome things you will get to hear in today's episode: When it comes to building your business, taking money from venture capitalists is like cheating. How you can build your business without accepting money from VC's by reading Russell's books. And find out what kinds of things you can expect in future episodes of Marketing Secrets podcast. So listen below to find out why taking money from VC's is cheating, and how you can still be successful without it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/episode-1-how-to-outspend-everyone-profitably Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Mon, 15 May 2017 21:53:00 -0000 How To Outspend EVERYONE Profitably full 1 Russell Brunson | YAP Media Marketing Secret #1 will explain the concept of “whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins” and how you can do it quickly without raising money. Marketing Secret #1 will explain the concept of "whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins" and how you can do it quickly without raising money. On the first episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast, Russell talks about the first secret of marketing, which is Don't Cheat! Here are some of the awesome things you will get to hear in today's episode: When it comes to building your business, taking money from venture capitalists is like cheating. How you can build your business without accepting money from VC's by reading Russell's books. And find out what kinds of things you can expect in future episodes of Marketing Secrets podcast. So listen below to find out why taking money from VC's is cheating, and how you can still be successful without it. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/episode-1-how-to-outspend-everyone-profitably Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Marketing Secret #1 will explain the concept of "whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins" and how you can do it quickly without raising money.

On the first episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast, Russell talks about the first secret of marketing, which is Don't Cheat! Here are some of the awesome things you will get to hear in today's episode:

  • When it comes to building your business, taking money from venture capitalists is like cheating.
  • How you can build your business without accepting money from VC's by reading Russell's books.
  • And find out what kinds of things you can expect in future episodes of Marketing Secrets podcast.

So listen below to find out why taking money from VC's is cheating, and how you can still be successful without it.

Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/episode-1-how-to-outspend-everyone-profitably

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